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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 2

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 2

"The little Toni basil happy birthday basil as a basil basil, I thought it was basil. But it couldn't. It's not a birthday. No, no. We want to do. So remember the segment I would have been going here the follow up. So this was a one hit wonder. Yes, Tony Toni basil basil. But I'm always meeting in. I heard this up in a cabinets weekend. And I've always wondered what was the second song. What was the follow up to that? So the one hit wonders in some of the follow ups. I like, you know, and so her follow up what was called Chris. I don't know. But we'll do it at seven thirteen. It was pretty good. So I think it was St. beat or something. So that's the bit the follow up. Why were you in a cabin? Oh. Group of friends. I got a good video Chechen the video. Carrot? It was Dayton. Do I want to see this thing? I mean, you can always see it. I mean, no, I Chris we appreciate the open ended group of ten of us while. Yeah. Good times, we rocking out to this. Well, this was on wanted to mix is like eighty mix. And again, I, you know, I get inspiration sometime in like Marvin Gaye you into the Ken to the woods and a cabin so to die and I get inspiration for the follow up. A segment I wanna do. Good trip up to the woods for that. Did you know what else you go to the woods for what keys headline? This morning is presented by sprint. Kakuta do gentlemen. Cockatiel do. Well, we're going to follow up on the Nici nipsy hustle situation. Because now there is a suspect that's been named in the murder case and arrest warrant has been issuing our attorney general Eric Holder. Actually, attorney general is just that his name happens to be Eric Holder, which is awful. I saw it. I was like this is not right. We get one black attorney general and now he's made nifty hustles death. Eric Holder is wanted for the homicide shooting of nipsy hustle. He was last seen in twenty sixteen white Ford or Chevy Cruz, California license plate seven R J D seven four to anyone with information related to his whereabouts or this or this daily shooting is urged context south bureau homicide at three two three seven eight six fifty one hundred not only does he have a. Name that we all linked to history. Yeah. But then his street name is something I can't even repeat on air. Really that bad is a it's a Kersee word. Oh, she was funny actually rows with eighty when? When you said Eric Holder. I thought for a second likely brought in Eric Holder. That's harsh. That's what I thought. I mean, that's what I figured it was that's what I heard the name. And I heard the case and he say Eric hotels like going to him. They bring in the big gun. That's what I figured former attorney generals are in on. They are not messing around with trying to catch this guy. No. So the more of this story is if you're last name is hold or donating your son, Eric. Yeah. You got to think these things through you have to think these things I'm assuming. Yeah. They've got right now, I'm looking at the official LAPD Twitter account, and they've got this guy's photo up. That's a real Twitter. Yeah. They tweet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All I wonder if they want to vote in my bracket. Sri ask this. I'll be fine a murder. Oh, which sound bite. You like I wonder if they like he's scary story or means said we've got a fifty fifty tie right now. Or maybe the little boy healthy. That's that's the number one seed overall. You know? I hope I make it to the final four. I'm like, dude. I mean, they they can they can weigh in right now they want to go to TMZ you can actually see footage of the shooting. You one of those? Are you one of those people that like seeing footage of light tragedies early? Not really. Yeah. Yeah. I I saw a chance to and if it's easy. I don't need to see it. Like, they kept showing remember to the the protests and the protests in Charleston, Charlottesville, Charlotte's Charleville. And he kept showing the car running over people over in higher. I was like what do you keep showing this listen to Caspian laws? Yes. Yeah. And sometimes I feel like I have to look at it. Just because I wanna know just the full tragedy of what happened. But it's an awful thing. You look maybe once and then that's the end of it. Odell Beckham junior awkward transition, very other. No other. When nearly you really gotta get back. Let me help you out. When. Speaking of replace I feel like that's just as awkward. All right. Like, there's sort of. What are we just playing song? And then come back. There's no real good way to get out of. It's Murtaugh so five minutes ago hard to go from Charlottesville to Beckham junior. Anyway. Oh, it's gone now feel good. Oh, good. Odell Beckham junior. Everything is no member of the Cleveland Browns. And there are some people felt like his reputation his last year or two with the giants took a hit because of some of the on and off the field antics. Odell Beckham junior says that there's a perception of him me first and that it's wrong. This is wrong. I don't I don't know how these planet like he's here today. I think that shows that you know, I it's just hard. It's all I know. I see all the stuff that said and everything. I think one of my biggest problems is that I care, but I don't care the same time. Because I know I am so nothing that said about me is ever going to bother me because I know who I am clearly bothers you. Clearly bothers you because of the tone in your voice as you're describing it not bothering you man, you in Cleveland. You were you were in New York. You were the toast of Manhattan. And now you in Cleveland, although that team's going to start getting a little wild about the team. It's about the city this about this about everything else. Just like we talked about in the Brian James not making just fully basketball decisions this this this move is a drastic change of lifestyle for someone who likes hanging out with Drake and be who likes to party scene who likes to celebrity seen who likes all the things that would it means to be like pizza with Instagram models and unidentified substances. Listen man, Cleveland has an airport, but it doesn't get that kind of traffic. You can you can find that though in Cleveland, you can run you at all. It's just not gonna be as glamour because you can find it. You just have to plan it like for instance, you can still hang out with Drake on August twelfth when he comes through and plays at quest at the q-, then you can go and you can go see Drake. And then he's going to be gone. He's not just. Hanging out in Cleveland, that's going to be a big change for him. The other thing is going to be a big change for him winning. He's actually going to be in a position to win again. And. You're gonna find out very quickly. If the perception of Odell Beckham junior is real or not because you're going to get opportunities to win. This is going to be a good football team. What was the over under nine when they jumped? They were the biggest jump Andy in the current debate. In terms of over under a win totals the Browns being the biggest jump. They would think that went up to nine. Yes, they went up to nine. Well, I mean, they're the hot team right now between Odell Beckham junior and Baker Mayfield. Jarvis Landry coaching like hunt. Yeah. Kareem hunt. I mean once he's back on the field and eight games eight gets half a season. But you know, if they if they can keep themselves just five hundred till he comes back right there. It's that TMZ presence. It's gonna be building in Cleveland. Like all of a sudden, there's going to be a bunch of dudes from TMZ who are going gonna get relocated to Cleveland because between ODBC and Baker Mayfield. You got guys who like attention, and they like spectacle. Yeah. I mean, that's one thing to have teams Z come to you. You. But again, it's about the life. And you know, you live in New York. I lived New York come on. Come on. There's no place in Cleveland where you can even pretend like you're kinda sorta almost in New York this just straight up Cleveland. I mean Cleveland is like Cleveland's one of those cities that people just make fun of it by name alone. Like, everyone knows what Cleveland means in terms of lack of glamour Applebee's is the go to spot, then he and Baker Mayfield can be running that place sponsor. Sponsor online travel, pretty big. Speaking of additions and subtractions Andes. No, no nosy wrong wrong. Henderson agreed to a deal with the Detroit Lions take it or shake. It will have an effect on the Rams this season. I am going to take it. Oh. I am going to take it because Todd Gurley clearly is dealing with knee issues. And he there's concerns I death authorize which that ain't fun especially at a young age and the type of pound in that he takes and thank you. I'm taking I'm taking it all the way draft, Malcolm, Malcolm Brown. We don't know exactly how he's gonna react this season. What his body is going to be like because he missed all last year. C J Anderson. Yes, it was fresh legs. But he was good for this team. So yeah, I'm taking it taking it that they're going to miss them. All right. Does he got a comment shoot? I was like I was impressed with him taking it. Sometimes you guys, I I'm I'm prone to think that the Rams are going to be just okay that this is an opportunity for less need to flex a little bit. And show his ability to identify town in the draft. You could get a guy who can give you the same sort of spelling that Todd Gurley would need in order to help preserve him for the ration- of his career. You can find a guy like that. We would just Kareem hunt. He wasn't like a top ten pick through. So I mean the end. And Lamar was a third round pick NFL is littered with these these sort of players who are in later rounds available and with the proper line scheme can be very productive thousand yard Russia's for us. If we need them to do all of that they're not special like a Todd Gurley. But there are good for spelling people. I mean, here's the thing. If Todd Gurley doesn't look like Todd Gurley pre authorized is really acting up last season, his backup becomes much less important thing. Like you want that guy to spell them? But if you really have to rely on that backup and less that backup just happens to be like a Todd Gurley in the waiting, and you just didn't know you get a lot problems. Anyway, like if you have to really rely on that backup that backup becomes really important Ila reason, we knew CJ Anderson had value with the Rams is because they were having trouble keeping Todd early on the field. But. CJ was also a veteran. Yeah. He was a veteran who had not been quite once but twice. So you have a sort of desperation Chipman showed on top of it any played with a really good team with a good blocking scheme that allowed him to thrive. And I'm I'm pretty sure less need factored in the fact that this is the draft. I can find a guy who can spell Todd Gurley for us. So Sean McVay talked about the Super Bowl loss. And what the teams mentality is like heading into the season on the heels of that loss, obviously disappointing way to end the season. But I think when you look back and reflect on really the journey and the entirety of what the season entailed so much appreciation for players for coaches being able to go through some adversity, and and love the way that our guys responded. And then there's been a lot of good moments that we can reflect back on certainly losing that Super Bowl, you know, that's things and you don't shy away from that. But I think the biggest thing that we try to take away whether you win or you lose. It's a learning opportunity and for us. You know, we're excited about getting our guys back, but it's been good. It's good to be here. And it's been fun. When you hear that? Here's here's what makes me feel like that isn't just cliche coach speech from McVeigh is two years ago. The Rams ahead of the curve. They got into the playoffs. They lost in the opening round to Atlanta. But they talked about it being a learning experience. And then last year they get all the way to the Super Bowl. So they clearly learn something from that. And they lost in the Super Bowl, and it was disappointing. And they did not play. Well, I think they got out scheme certainly Jared Goff didn't have his best game. But I feel like this is a group that's going to learn from it. And I would challenge the notion they didn't play. Well, I mean, you're in a tied game offensively offensively offensively. They couldn't get it going offensively. They played defense was amazing. Yes. Yes. Amazement they they were a couple scores away from the narrative being Tom Brady didn't play well Brady really didn't. Hey that grain till the forty one. Yeah. It's like maybe a hand like halfway through the fourth quarter. I know that's amazing with Tom Brady with career. I mean like that guy has managed to avoid, you know, some of what LeBron goes through, you know, with having gotten to that many finals LeBron is a three and six record like just a couple series can be the difference from being considered the all time greatest quarterback versus the guy who gets to the Super Bowl. But you never quite know what you're going to get from them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean typically in a series the best team wins in a one game playoff scenario. You know, you you think the best team win. But fluky things can happen. I'm pretty sure a lot of people last year felt as if the eagles got lucky. Yeah. You know, but luck or not Nick foles is a Super Bowl MVP. Look. I mean, Joe flacco we earlier he bet on himself at the right time. He was never that good a quarterback before the Super Bowl hasn't been that good since never Falco. But he was good at the right time. Yes, I'm a dodgers coming off a loss last night. They are three and two. There have been some big positives and big negatives for the opening five games. Talk about those coming up next kind of sounds like the first one I was going to say Toni basil was cheating a little bit trying to bring over the fans of. Oh, Mickey with that. Same drumbeat. That's why guys. This is the follow up. When you have that one hit wonder, and you just wonder what about the second? So follow it up with this is from. Oh, Mickey he's so fine. Whatever this is the follow up. Street beat. You can hear like trying to stretch a little bit. Like she doesn't want to be like pigeonholed as Mickey. But she don't wanna stretch so much that people don't recognize it because that beats the same drumbeat. She don't want anything that stretch that much. Yeah. Maybe did more though that would have helped the career. I mean, you don't know. This is try to stretch out. Why didn't work didn't happen? So we got a dead heat right now. On twitter. I mean, look at that was no I refused to believe. Yeah. You go. Too far led us to be we leave it up. So far. Yeah. Really my Corey off Mike, Mike. Bro. I you still fifty one percent right now, we're going with the fourteen seat means said over into the three seat key scary story. So vote now on Twitter are sound sixteen bracket. The Amine said the fourteenth seed is fifty one percent. To key scary story, forty nine one. Can we play? The key scary story to refresh people's mind. That's an all request Wednesday thing. That's tomorrow. You know, the one it's the one where he throws the shoot. He goes. Okay. We hold on. Thank you it is unfair. If we played a mean sale. It's like you gotta as long people. What's going on? Yeah. I kind of you don't want to seem like a corrupt election know, why he does that what happened at a chap has ravine last night. Dodgers lost four to two Joe Kelley got waxed. And then I was gonna say introduction to his hearing last night Joe Kelley actually was getting at the ravine one and two thirds innings pitched last night. Four hits four earned runs home run. The second home run he has given up into appearances as a dodger. He was supposed to be the big off season pitching get for this team. And thus far he has not been very good Elsie. He has not an coming on a heels his brand performance in the World Series. Obviously we thought we had made the Bosox weaker by subtraction. Well, now, we've gotten a little bit weaker by Titian because this Joe is not the Joe that we saw now maybe these are only two times he'll call up the ams and from the rest of the season. He's just going to be outstanding. But you earn those boos? They don't do off. Often the fans don't boot like that often. You know, what though they don't do often? But I have found over the last few years once they get upset they get mercilus like they like they don't do off in. But once they decide to boo once we decide who you like what the thumbs the gladiator thumbs up thumbs down like once that foams down comes out. You are getting booed hor could you earned it? Yeah. You have to really do some stuff to get us a stain boot like US Pedro bias if these fans will boo. I mean, he knows what that's like he's been through that for like two seasons. This isn't Philly where we boo because essentially it up. Yeah. You know, this is this is earned boo and so- Joe. Congratulations and two outings, you've managed to earn a boo. Now, what we need you to do is actually throw some strikes because about three Annie's you've given us two strikes. Two strikeouts and three innings pitching. No. That's not a good radio dog. But when you've given up as many home, ROY. Runs as strikeouts. That's not a good ratio at all. No. And it's important to remember too that Joe Kelley as great as he was for the Red Sox against the dodgers last year in the World Series. He had not been very good up to that point. Like he actually had been shaky enough that there was some talk that he wasn't even going to make the postseason roster. So you know, Joe Joe Kelley leading up to that World Series. Where clearly the dodgers saw a lot of them. And they were impressed by what they saw that wasn't all of Joe Kelley last year. And it speaks to just what a crap shoot it can deal with relief pitchers. So right now his ear as of eighteen I'm I'm thinking about may come down. Oh, yeah. But vast season to your point for point three nine it's kinda high. Yeah. The season before that those two point seven nine. Not bad season before that five point one eight. But again belief pitching, it's all just a crap shoot. A really quick Chris in LA has got some Toni basil now. Hey, good morning fellows. Good morning. A little unknown fact about Tony bay. They'll see was one of the creators of the lockers, which I don't know if you remember that L visa assurance from Detroit. But it really put locking on the map in LA. And they they were on soul train, then rerun Fred berry played reruns in the group. But yeah, the little white chick. Coney bay though was the one was one of the creators of top lock in here. Really Toni basil who told you that Tony Tony tell you that. No, no, not not a documentary on it years ago was Tony the producer of the. Was she the only source interviewed. With a lot of interviews being done with shadowy figures. Would bars over there is Toni basil I'm looking this up right now, Toni basil cheerleader, right? She video while I mean in life to video to me like I like the warrior with. Lori. She wasn't actually chill leader. Where was she? Jessica. Right now. Jess Belle dot com. You can see Toni basil break. Dancing to house music that comes up easy. Follow people. Also, ask was Toni basil a cheerleader also comes up, and that makes sense only gone to just reading Google inserts. This makes sense. If you Rosh does the rundown. What's the difference easy by? So key scary story has now overtaken mean said fifty one nine here is key scary story. So that's key scary story. And by the way, Chris in LA called via the sprint people's hotline. So we learned a lot about Toni basil, she's almost seventy five. She's almost seventy five years old four. Yeah. That's almost. Threes. It'd be almost seventy five if she was seventy three and a half she could almost be seventy five because you rounding up at that age. She she is seventy five she's going to be seventy six. Yes. She is already seventy five that's still almost seventy. Wow. L these rights do that you have a segment guys. Stucco, dodgers, go. How do you look last night? Who'd he us. Look good man that it's first starting like two years didn't give up any runs. He had the heat had the control he only through seventy seven pitches. And they're obviously you're gonna be keeping tabs on his work load because they want to make sure that he's available throughout the entire season. Right. And they're hoping that they've got the type of depth that we've seen over the last couple of years where they can put guys, you know, sort of on the injured list finger quotes, you know, and take their time and make sure that none of these guys into two taxed when September comes around. I mean when September it runs around we're going to have real who is an amount today against the Madison Bumgarner Richhill Kershaw. Bueller? If I feel good going into the postseason, these guys a healthy rise and nausea Livia. Newton John wasn't really an aerobic system. She wasn't. What was Toni basil? I'm looking now, I need to know her background since you're gonna make fun. This is a living Newton, John. If you're looking at video where she looks like rainy. Days. Say very racy video. I didn't realize that. Have you seen this video was tears a lot going on in this video? Thank you would like it. No, no. I noticed that is like one of the games videos over together never noticed until it. It actually turned me gay this video leans in leans into what it's doing dangling, a carrot dangling, a carrot. That's straight cucumber baby. I yeah. I see I go ahead and tease out of that police in trouble. Lebron James some news about this summer for LeBron. But also future summers talk about that coming up next dangling, a carrot. So we're still watching this new John video in here. He gets even weirder. Calm down. There was a lot happening in that video that I did not pick up on when I was like eight years old. There's a lot going on highly recommend people go to YouTube genres Jones interesting. Yes, it is. I mean, let me hear your body talk. She's pretty explicit. Speaking of explicit. I want Rosh, especially apologized to me. Can we get a little neater banker, please? Thank you. Because I enquired if Toni basil basil, and how you pronounce the last name was a cheerleader you rate, it me, and then I actually gold, and yes, she was a cheerleader. In fact, the uniform she wore in the video is a modified version when I was her uniform to what you were. And that's that's pretty good. So bam apologize now. Sorry, thank you. Go someone dresses as so many video. It is not the way you should teach the children. That's not what they do in realize dresses like a lot of things in his videos that doesn't mean he's like, correct. No, actually, that's pretty much. What Raja's the way he dresses is pretty much. What we see a fireman? How late at night. Sometime. There's a whole joke in here. To say this. Lebron James we've gotten some news on his off season coming up right now because LeBron Rula Braun is officially now in off season mode. He's been shut down for the remainder of the year for thirteen seasons. Yep. Is a I I I wrote a piece actually for the ethnic writing about the Lakers for the athletic like the company, man. Oh, absolutely. I learned it from you go like the things that have changed in the world of the NBA or just the world period. Since the last time LeBron didn't go to the playoffs which was two thousand five. And now, it's insane. Like, we always talk about NBA Twitter Twitter was a year way from being launched the last time. Lebron didn't go to playoffs. Like the the sons that year led the league for points per game in like one hundred ten that would get you now. Twentieth in the league. Like, I it's we were like a compliment. We were a couple months away from seen Christian bale suit up for the first time as Batman like. That that was the last time LeBron hasn't been in the playoffs. Like, George W Bush was a year into his second term like our our current president was in season three of the apprentice. Yeah. Exactly. But it's it's nuts. How much like how long LeBron has just had these sustained appearances in the playoffs. I guess that's part of the reason. Why is so frustrating for a lot of people because they just assume that was going to continue no matter who was around him. And I think we overlooked a handful of factors number one. Which was he was always in those runs with veterans. And this is the first time he's begs to being with a bunch of kids as his primary, go To's. And at the veterans were just supposed to dispel guys before remember, especially doing a great championship runs in freaking Miami. Shane baddie, a Mike Miller Miller he like adult Alan right adults as a supporting cast this time round you look around Zo. And and you could be in college right now, they could but but I will say. This. If you look at this team when they had success and the numbers and the record they were at their best when they had the kids out there like the kids the kids by and large held up their end of the bargain way, more than the veterans that they brought in the one year guys the mean team, the the kids, you know, particular to you see in their absence what Brandon Ingram and Lonzo ball meant those guys brought more to the table over the course of the year. Then the veterans that they had around the Braun this year. Yeah. I mean people like to say this season was a complete failure. And certainly been disappointing. But I there were two things that prevents me from calling a complete failure in first and foremost is the fact that the season roster was constructed with the guise of we need to be major players in this upcoming all season that has been accomplished, but it's not a completed grade because we need to see who we get. Well, I we it hasn't been accomplished yet. Because we don't know we know that they are in position to be players. We don't run away that they're going to be players. Right. And I also I feel like they could have set up their roster this year where they still had flexibility be players in the off season. But they had more creativity in im- guys that they brought in like you could have brought in you kept Julius Randle and signed him to a tradable deal. They actually need a Julius Randle type contract. Like, I've theoretical thirteen year multi year thirteen million dollar multi year contract if they're trying to trade for somebody like Anthony Davis like you need one of those money balancing contracts, like unless you're. And do a sign and trade with Casey p they don't really have any of those guys. I think the part of the reason why with a timing situation to juniors Jimmy who's going to sit around and wait to see if Paul George and the Brahma gonna come before you decide to sign his contract. He was going to take the money. Nobody. That well, though, we should really we pause anyway. Right. But they poison the well with Julius by beginning all of last year treating him. Like, yeah. We know you're not going to be part of this. Like, I mean, they made that just transparently clear we've already written off Randall then Randall ended up playing way better than they thought. He would. And then all of a sudden, you don't end up getting Paul, George, which I think completely sucker punch them. And they didn't even get a meeting with Paul George, and then very rude yet totally route. I mean, it's hard to compete though, with that type of concert that they threw an okay see, I mean, seriously a continental o'casey private concerts LA, but it's a private concert for him though. But anyway, though, I feel like this, and this is hopefully something that rob Lincoln Magic Johnson. Learn from you can be more creative in the way, you set this up as opposed to just treating it like clean caps has to be totally clean. I I hear you. I hear you. I'm sure part of it is that because I'm of Magic Johnson so much. Gonna give him a much longer benefit of the doubt than I would probably someone else. But I'm going to wait and see what this looks like after off season decide. Been bad coming up L Z's top ten. So what's his what's his follow up? This is not follow up. Snow? It's no, no, no. Let is snow not that kind of snow, but this was on the charts top of the charts. I believe it was twenty four years ago. The follow up is at that. A Yankee remade this song twenty six years ago. Sure did twenty six-year-old snows informer was on top of the charts. April second nineteen Ninety-three snow. I did not have much of a follow up. We did not hear much from snow after informer, the no that's pretty much where it began continue in the right side of the bracket right now on e at ESPN, Los Angeles on Twitter are sound sixteen key in Travis say, and touch it Hori. Let me what what are you unwrapping over there? That's not me. Can still on to wreck Kuhn. So we've got the seventh seed you can touch touch it. That's touch it versus. And right now, the ten seat is running away with it Betty co is running away with it. You can vote at east Sandra's. Sure people. Sure, people haram. You know, what else runs away with people what? What? What we were a little loose. Well, as you guys all know, Marvin Gaye would have been eighty years old today. His what's going on album is considered by many to be his crown jewel his discography. But also just in terms of just pop culture in general, just one of the most significant socially conscious recordings ever. It had been really nothing like it. But nothing like it before or not much like it'd be for anyway. Okay. So I put together my top ten list of my favorite woke songs now. There are woke socially conscious songs out there. That would not be on the list, and I apologize. I just racing scratch off we other world in case you a waiting to see if that was gonna make it. Really a woke song. It's a well-meaning say well intended CEO, the ones make a brighter day. So let's start giving coming into number ten. Sliding the family stone everyday people. Okay. A great soul different strokes for different folks. Come on, you know, that pardon coming in number nine can have a list without prince sign all the time. Oh, excellent. Call. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm not going on in that song who's not very easy to rep about sing about aids nineteen nineties that he brings up heroin heroin a lot in that very very woke song coming in number eight. I wanna give show you some some love for this. Bob, molly's war. Okay. All right now. I know a lot of you guys like on what about I shut the share? What about also? The school. But if you really want to know what Bob was really about play war. Yeah. Wars is him cutting to the chase. Right. None of that dance. And make you feel equal stuff. Mountain war come in at number seven when a my personal favorite NAS. I can I just liked the curse isn't make you feel like I can do anything. I don't know that one which one is play a little bit for can had to help India. Hold on. Yeah. I don't remember that one. That's really good any minute. Now, we're going to hear just how how maybe. This. I mean, this has been done if you guys would just come in and talk to me here, we go. Okay. I remember this one. I remember that one. Do you? Remember that one? I'll go work the week. Number six ask anyone to good. Good and ask for a way. I just said I didn't know the song coming in number six is not only a sneaky woke song. But as one of the greatest karaoke songs to Arab and karaoke. You ready? Yeah. Jack and Diane by John cougar Mellencamp. That's a sneaky good pick. Very sneaky sneaky good pick that song as won't to the whoa. Whoa. Let's woke in the heartland milk in the heartland. You know what? Because folks asleep there too and chocolate came and woke them up on top of that when you're drunk and doing care yoki. Everyone helps you out because of course is so Lois song about cycle of life for some people that never changes. Exactly, I never listen to it like that. We've got to down you wanna play that sound to know not by the way, one of those days where it's really fortunate that I'm here not Travis. Maybe I'm going to no more of this. This is true. I'm going to know the more this all right coming in at number five truth change is going to come Sam Cooke Sam Cooke. Chu. I look I backed myself into a corner with that statement came in how yeah didn't even hesitate rate. So number four great Marvin Gaye what's going on number three puck. Keep your head up. Okay. We need to we need to put know that. I know that. Why? When there the eternal debate between who's the goal between him or big able when I used to do even though I'm neither one is my favorite. I choose pocket because he had walked songs. Yeah. Well, he just he was a deep guy who's a really deep guy like if he'd still been alive. He I think by now he would have his acting career would have gone to places where he's been getting Oscar nominee. I mean, he was really talented. Yeah. Yeah. He was as a writer has performed a lot of things to say a lot of things. We're listening to you have got a lot of things to say. But he had things worth listening to that sounds great number to fight the. Follow. Here. The best the best. I still listen to them with the windows down his new like that that album, and it takes nation of millions to hold us back are so great. So you can have a history class by plan. Was there a history class? But they're entertaining. Right. Like, it's an entertaining version of history and for the young people there public enemy. They never said the name we got to say the name. Will. Mcgrath the arrays, right? Think of your demographics. Not everyone knows not up in poor in Detroit. Listening to hip hop. Cassettes? Do they allow that stuff behind the gates where you grew up rush to get that yet because he was intelligent? He had to sneak it in and then coming in at number one I have to find a plug. It's my Paget's. From my pet that Jews ran out. I was writing last night, and I didn't plug it back in number one for the love of the money. OJ's? People like to say. Money's root of all evil. That's not the phrase. It's the love of money that is root of all get the get the paper. Just keep it in perspective. And I just love the way they just broke it down for the love of money team still now, mama. Well, I mean, what it does T like how badly you want that money and the compromises that you willing to make you know, on behalf of that money, and defended you can dance and learn at the same time basis. A number one song at baseline is. So good epic epic. Now, of course, there are tons of tons of other songs, I've missed I know this don't yell at me. We are the world's probably twelve. All right. We had a brief discussion about ebony and ivory a brief discussion. Barry my song, which we won't say on a year, but could have been in your segment of people from NWEA community. Like that song. I'm sure I'm sure we just couldn't say that like there. Yeah. Couldn't do that. Madonna has a few woke song. Oh, yeah. Like, a virgin was very woke awakening getting like the black. Getting. That was my Capri like a prayer prayer. And Papa don't preach. Don't probably don't preach. Actually, sneaky woke always totally semi. Catchy. You start listening to what it's about. It's like, whoa. Whoa. She's not going to have an abortion. Okay. I can see why. This would be heavy. Yeah. Like, it's just catchy enough that you're if you're not paying attention. You just think it's about like a father and daughter arguing right? I'm going to that party. And he's going to party and don't tell me what I'm wearing. And you can't forget like Cindy Lauper, man. We heard woke song you remember this one. She bop. She bought was very woke because she bought bothering much awakening. Yes. More awakenings. Yes. I mean, that's yeah. That's woke right? There's girls. Just wanna have fun was kind of woke. I don't think we should be using woke in that camp. Well, I mean, we we've commercialized didn't bastardized it to this point. Where did you see the clip of the newscasts where they were all trying to use popular raises, so painful is so painful to watch soap, I can't believe we actually should play that at some point. But I simply cannot believe that they thought it was a good idea to do that. To to to have a tire news team use phrases like woke and all of that. That's right. And you know, this was a good idea to tell you about manscaping. It's brought to you by manscaping. 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20 Trivia Questions on Anything and Everything

Trivia With Budds

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20 Trivia Questions on Anything and Everything

"It's ten random trivia questions with me trading answers with Hawaii's best trivia hosts, Katie Christopherson, aka the trivia, girl on Instagram. This is trivial with buds. Be and welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. Also, Aloha because today, we have a very special guest, my friend, Katie all the way from the island, of course, by and you will love listening to our chat today. We talk about all kinds of trivial hosting stuff. If you want to hear some dirt, you wanna hear some inside secrets you wanna talk about cheaters at trivia nights. You're going to hear all about it. And what it's like to host trivia in Montana, and Chicago and L A and Hawaii so get ready for that. It's a fun little chat. And we haven't done a longer episode like this in a while. So I think you will love going back to the old format just a little bit on today's episode happy Monday and hope you had an excellent weekend, by the way, I know I did had a random party booking. Kind of a last minute thing through this website called gig masters, and it was kind of like an Accenture group at a big fancy house in the Hollywood area, and we're doing eighty s and ninety. Trivia, and it was pretty standard. They were having fun. And then at the very end of the party like the last ten minutes somebody walked in and was introduced as Toni basil from the song. Mickey she had that hit song. Oh, Mickey you're so fine. You're so finding blew my mind. He mickey. So that was kind of interesting I didn't really get to meet her. I didn't want to go to start clapping or anything. So. But that was kind of a weird little add onto the night where I was like, all right? This is almost done. And okay, there's the girl that sings Mickey and art have a good night everybody. So I just wanted to share that story with Toni basil or basil. I'm not sure exactly how you say the name. But she was at some trivia with me just the other day that same night. I had my wife Ashley hosting bingo for me out in riverside at a place called first class pizza. That was our second week of bingo, and she did great. I gave her fifty bingo Dabur 's and she used forty six of them. So we had a ton of players to really small little space. So to have that many players is very cool. And that was our second week our third weeks coming up and Ashley will be hosting again this weekend. So if you live anywhere near riverside, California, wanna play some pop culture, bingo, that's movies and music and numbers and tons a cool swag and prizes. Check it out. Trivial buds dot com. Click on the event for first class pizza. Bingo will also be taken over there trivia, the first Wednesday of April. So if you want to complete trivia every Wednesday from seven to nine that'll be with my good friend Zeki at Uvira, so Zeke will be out there from the Rancho Cucamonga area hosting and riverside. And he's a great host. Great comedian. You're gonna have a great time. Yesterday was Mario day which is March tenth, which I didn't even know a thing. But basically M A R, and then one zero is also like if you spell it out kind of like the word Mario so Nintendo had this huge sale on games. They had Mario aces the tennis game. Mario party. Mario odyssey. Mario brothers deluxe. And Mario Kart on sale for forty bucks instead of sixty. And if you're an intendo fan, you know that that stuff never goes on sale. And I even waited a day. I waited like six hours from when I saw the sale and like all the Amazon links and WalMart links for the codes because they were the download codes of. The games had already been like sold out which is insane because it's a code. I don't get you can sell out of it. But I had to buy them. I'm best buy, but I ended up buying super. Mario brothers deluxe. And the the Mario party for switch which are really fun games, especially to play with the kids. So that'll be fun and weeks and months to come to try and dominate those games on the switch went out and got me a new one hundred twenty eight gigabyte micro SD card to hold all this new games on the switch as well. So I'm excited about that. And I'm excited for today's episode, which is with my friend, Katie Christopherson. She is a real sweetheart. And she hosts over there in Hawaii has about four places. It sounds like and you'll hear all about her experience in hosting trivia in today's episode. We also go back and forth with ten questions on random topics for me to her and we score pretty high on each other's quizzes. So let's see how well you do plan along with this very chatty. And fun. Trivia episode. We're gonna jump into of those twenty questions right now. Here we go. Sitting here on a Skype call recording this in my car, which is two thousand nine hundred sonata and the decor in here has got to be the exact opposite of the background of the person. I'm talking to right now who is from Hawaii her name is Katie Christoffersen, and you might know her as the trivia girl on Instagram. What's up, Katie? Hey, thanks for. Yeah. Aloha, thanks for joining me today. Tell me a little bit about your background in trivia hosting. So seen trivia for nine years. Now, it's something I started back in Montana, and then moved with a moved with me to Hawaii about four years ago. Okay. So yeah, I'm here on the island of coup. Why and hosting trivia nights all over the island here got about four different regular gigs. So yeah, just love trivia, I love right in the questions, and I love hosting a game and meeting all the people and constantly learning. New stuff. Tastic and quite the leap from Montana to Hawaii. I bet you there's no other trivia hosts that have ever done that. Now. The on this island before I got here. Oh, that's amazing. So did you how long did you host in Montana before you headed out to the island? Okay. Cool. So you had a lot of experience doing it. And then when you move there you're like, I'm going to start this up. No one's doing this. And it they took to it. And now you've got four places. That is so cool. And you know, I know as well as you that you kind of make some really cool bonds with trivia players. So I'm sure the time that you've built up those nights. You've got a lot of cool, friends and stuff around the Hawaiian trivia scene. Sure. Yeah. It stick come out of who's gingerly is probably one of the best parts about in. In fact, when I moved here trivia, when I got my first foreign started doing trivia there that was kind of like opened the door for my social networking. They'll tell us. What would you say is, you know, besides obvious differences in terms of hosting trivia or playing trivia, what is the biggest difference between you know, a trivia game in Montana or a trivia game in Hawaii. I don't think there's much difference at all. Gotcha. So you can use the same types of content or do you do a lot of local and cultural stuff? I do around here. But I still actually so my questions that I write to a few bars back in Montana, Oregon, Idaho. Oh, that's awesome. So I, you know, I don't send them like local Hawaii stuff for my gigs here. I do mix in local knowledge could speak love that. Of course. That's awesome. And are the do you have a name like is the is the name of your? Do you work for a company or is it all just independent? Just independent cool. And then so with the name of your your company be the trivia girl is that what you go by. That's just the name that I go by and the name of the game itself. That rate is called trivial beard suit. Very cool. Where did you get that name from? It's just the first thing I thought of like nine years ago back in Montana when I started my verse trivia night. Very cool. I love it and those questions are being used. It sounds like all around the country. So that's very very cool. I moved to LA about six years ago going on seven years, and I had kind of the opposite thing where people had told me that lived here. They're like, oh, yeah. There's like no trivia out here. You could start it up because I was doing it in Chicago at the time, and when I moved out here, I'm like, oh, I'll just probably fall into a bunch of these bars that want to do it. And it took me about a year just to get like one bar to try it. And so it was a really slow start for me. And I didn't really think of it as something that you know, I was moving out west to do. I was like, well, I could fall back on that. If I need to and eventually I needed to. So it all worked out good because I've kind of blossomed into this bigger better version of everything I was doing to begin with. But. Yet changing changing cities at anytime can always be a challenge. So that's really cool that you got that to work for you. Yeah. It was just really lucky that like nobody had even heard of trivia out here. They're like, what do you mean? Like, they didn't get caught on stupor fast. It's huge people. Love it. I was set up at like, a a local beer fest recently, and this really drunk, I stopped by my table. And I was just handing information. Like, hey, if you wanna have a trivia party, I host trivia for a lot of the breweries here that kind of thing and this guy go he could not understand. He's like, so you're telling me people pay you like to go to their house and just ask them questions. I was like, yeah. I was like literally every weekend. He's like why would anyone do that? I'm mike. Hey, man. I don't know. But he was like he was like almost perturbed. Like why why is this a thing? Why are you telling me about this? And it's one of those niche things where like, you know, my brother asked me today. He goes, do you think you'll be doing this in your fifties? And I said, I mean, I can't imagine anything funner. I'm like, I it might evolve into something else or something similar or a bigger version of what I do or something. But I'm like, you can't really ask for much more. You get paid great money to drink. Great beer, great, food and meek. Eight people, you know. I told them happy and give them prizes. In learn and talk about stuff that you're into like, you know, like, especially you're right in the questions yourself, like, you know, that you can you know? Like, I have to do it tonight. As soon as we're done. I have to kind of plan out the week and go, okay, I'm going to do around on these five things. And then I just kinda come up with them or sometimes people will recommend things or something. We'll be in my head from the weekend. Like today when we're recording this is March tenth, and that's Mario day, which I didn't realize, but it's like M A R and then one zero so like March tenth is super Super Mario day. So I'm an intendo guy, and they had like a bunch of sales on intendo games. So I bought a bunch today for my daughter and to play starting tomorrow. But that was something I didn't know about. So I'm like, oh, maybe I should do a whole Mario round this week. Is that kinda how you come up with content. Are you just kinda like what's going on in the world? Or do you have a certain way that you generate material? It's just like constantly grabbing inspiration from everywhere. Like, you know this last week I wrote a Michael Jackson category because he was on my mind with that like leaving Neverland documentary. You know, it's like, oh, it's the summer Olympics right now. It's the Grammy awards, you know, go to a wine tasting and then be like ooh do category. Oh, that wine or people like what you said people will suggest things than people, send me messages all the time of little trivia facts in categories suggestions, and awesome. What are some of the things you hear more than anything else? Like, hey, when are you going to do the office, or what are you going to do Seinfeld? Like, do you have anything like that? People. People tend to request Disney a lot. Yeah. I would say Disney, and Harry Potter and the office are my three biggest ones that people like when you doing those, and I do try and do them every three or four months, I try and do one of those somewhere because I know that it'll be a draw for that night. Usually the people that are requesting it are never there at the night there. That's like the one night. They'll miss or they're like what happened. And I'm like I did it last week. And they're like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's hard to please everybody. But it's fun to try. I guess well today on this episode now that we know a little bit more about each other. I thought it'd be fun for us to do some trivia back and forth. So we'll kind of just do ten questions back and forth. And and about the topics in answers, and and things like that. Are you good at totally random trivia? Are you good trivia player like in general? I'm actually not as good as a lot of people. I see I'm. But when I'm traveling. I love to go to trivia nights. No matter. What city I'm in or will little town. So I love to go. But I bring my fiance with me because he's actually a lot better trivia than I am clouds break. He's better at knowing this these random Zang's. So we'll see how I do on your quiz. Hopefully, you don't ticket too hard on me. This is a good mix. So this is the questions I'll be asking you are from one of my confidence rounds so listeners on my show Bill maybe recognized that it's it's ten totally random questions and there's no set category. They're usually a little bit tougher because it's the last round of the night for me and my live events, and I kinda stole the concept from a company in Chicago used to work for called. Yes, I am showbiz, and they would just always end their trivia nights with this. And I thought it was cool. So I asked the ten questions, and then I have the player's rank their answers tend to one so tends to think they're most confident in one's the thing are least confident in and you have to use each number one time, and whatever you right next to the answer that somebody points, you get if you're right. So you have to give your ten to the thing. You're most confident because then you'll get ten points for that answer if you're right. Yeah. So, yeah, it's out of fifty five points, and it kind of fits with the rest of the way I score and things like that. So yeah. Just kind of mimicked the style of that company. This guy Tony valley, really good entrepreneur the north side, Chicago. And he was the first person I hosted trivia for back in two thousand eleven and I lived far from the city at the time. So I said, do you mind if I kind of take this and host some stuff closer to my house, and he said, yeah, no problem. So he's always been a huge advocate of mine. And he's a real good, dude. So shout out to Tony valley. And yes, I am show business in Edison park, Chicago neighborhood, cal-, California, Illinois, I still I'm still living in both places in my head. I think except when it's cold on Mike now. No, I'm just in LA. Now, I'm not in Chicago anymore. But okay, cool, and then are your ten questions from anything in particular. My son are just all random. I've got so music geographies sports movies. Lovable coop. Did you say cults like like drink the Kool aid type occult all right miracle? All right. Let's see actually Kuwait. It was like I late knock off. Oh, I love flavor eight. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a good little piece of trivia. Yeah. Is that what they used at the the famous one. Yeah. I guess I don't know if you should call that the fame. Ooh, what's the famous cult murder like like making light of it? All right here, we go. This is the first question. I'll see if you can get this one number one who was pronounced dead at one pm on November twenty second nineteen sixty three in Texas. JFK? It is JFK. Nice job Katie well done. My wife is a history. Major and she does not do anything in the field. So I always say, hey, at least you would be good at these type of questions if you came with me to a trivia night. I'm like that's worth like eighty grand. Right. She's listed. She just kind of leaves the room when I say stuff like that. But yeah. J F K nineteen sixty three. And that was a movie I think with was like a Stephen King book, which was the name. It was like November twenty second nineteen sixty three is the name of the book. I think and then they made it into like a Hulu series with James Franco, something like that. I think I think my brothers watched it and said it was great. And I think it's about somebody who time travels and gets to go back to that date to try like alter what happened or something? Like that. If I'm not. Yeah. It looked it looked interesting. All right. There you go one for one JFK. All right. Let's hear your first question. Who did Pamela Anderson Mary in two thousand six wearing a white bikini and a captain's hat. Captain's hat, Pamela Anderson, Gary somebody she had I remember I distinctly remember the white bikini in my head, and she was super tan in the picture. And let's see she's been married to Tommy Lee and. Couple of other people. I think I think the person in question if it was oh six would probably be musician named kid rock is that right? Nice. I just played a song by oh I played cowboy yesterday. I do music, bingo, sometimes and that was a song I played last night at a very fancy house in the Hollywood area. And when I put that song on the people kind of put their noses up like why is this playing in my house? I'm like it's part of the game. You know, but. Yeah. It's it's a fun one. Here's question. Number two. What athlete was born Edson? Orontes dough Nasi manteaux number two. What famous athlete legendary athlete was born Edson EDS O N Orontes. What was it? It is Palay. Nice job. Very good number to pay lay your two for two you soccer fan. No, it just, you know, have written a lot of content about pay over the years. Could she legendary wouldn't it be funny? If I was asking you questions like I had bought these off of you and didn't realize that. And you're like, I wrote all these questions you like road, all these. Yeah. Very good Palay is correct. I never was a huge soccer fan, but I used to like to go to sleep too. Like foreign soccer games on the weird channels like cable access channels when I was in high school. I used to always fall asleep to soccer or like dragon ball z on the Cartoon Network. Those were my sleep straight slumber shows, and so soccer holds a place in my heart. All right. Here's the number two for you. What mountain that straddles Switzerland in Italy, inspired the shape and packaging of toba Laurent the union bar. Who I just saw a whole display of toba Laurent's and said who I should I should buy one of those sometimes like that in store advertising. I'm like that work that makes me want to eat that. I did not buy one. And I am not good at geography. So I'm gonna say something very generic like the elps is that even thing like are the elps like way more broad than just like one little thing. The answers the matter horn on you. In the Al, okay. Eh there. You'll have credit the Matterhorn like a ride at Disneyland with the yeti on it, very cool. Love it. Are you at Disney gal, do you love? Disney yourself. Never printed his knee land. I don't have kids. So I don't like keep up on the movies. I mean when I was a kid, I loved beauty and the beast and Aladdin and The Lion King. But I've been pretty out of touch with Disney. That's a good point. I feel like I'm like I'd be into it. But mostly it's the kids and and getting stuff for them to watch and things like that. I have a four year old and a one year old. So we're at the prime Disney age, and we live pretty close to Disneyland. So we had season passes for a while up until about three or four months ago. And then I said, hey, let's take a break from these couple years because we go all the time. But I'm excited about the new Disney platform, the it's I think it's called Disney. Now, it comes out in early twenty twenty and they just announced that the entire Disney catalog of movies will be available to watch on demand on there. So I don't know if that refers to just the theatrical stuff or like all of their stuff because that would be really cool if it was like the Mighty Ducks, and you know, like all all of their stuff live action older and produced and things like that. So that'll be interesting. I would like to back and watch like fantail and be it's like, I know what it seen these at some point in my life. But it's been so long. We have about half of them on Blu Ray as they've released them, but like to have them all digitally to watch anytime you want and not have to worry about the packaging and stuff would be pretty sweet, especially with the kids, especially if we have more kids too. So yeah, that'll be cool. I mean, that's that's going to be like ten or twelve bucks. I'm definitely gonna sign up for it. Just because it it makes sense. All right. Here's number three. What company began selling apple butter in one thousand nine hundred with a full line of jams and jellies that followed number three will company began selling apple butter in one thousand nine hundred with a full line of jams and jellies that followed number three. Butter. Looking for a company name, and they kick things off with the old apple butter in the turn of the century there. Ooh, that's a good guess and they make the applesauce. The answer was actually smucker's smucker's knockers. Strawberries. Yeah. Yeah. I think they they do a little bit of all those types of fruits. But yeah, smucker's was the answer for number three. So you got two out of three so far only won miss which is pretty good because I definitely be S my way through Matterhorn. All right. All right. Very good. Very good. Do you do at your live nights? Will you give people have credit for that kind of thing or never? I try not to bend the rules too much because it just keeps it easier that way, sure. Every once in a while yet people catch me on a good night. I'm a little more generous sometimes than other nights. Most recently this team was arguing with me about a question, and it happened to be one that I literally copy and pasted from the jeopardy website. So I was like pay jeopardy said it was this. And they're like put. That's not right. I'm like, but it's jeopardy. Like, I'm like, I don't they fact check everything I'm like, I don't have any argument for you. I'm like, usually I would just go. Yeah. Find that was close enough. But it was like it was something be it was something about world religion. I think it was the world religion of Panama. And it was like the answer was Catholicism. And they put Christianity, and I'm like, hey, I needed to be Catholic Catholic, and they're like that's not a world religion. And they were like going nuts about it. I'm like, hey, jeopardy said this was the answer. I don't know what to tell. You gotta go by. About this say JR, kind of no I've used that website for sure, but this one was actually like on the website like they do that little pop ups and things like that every once in a while and that one caught my eye, and I'm like that's pretty good question. And speaking of. Dot com. When it comes from jeopardy. I don't question it like double checking, you know. I'm the same way. I'm like, yeah. There's there's no way that that's wrong. It's from jeopardy. They're they're the kings of trivia, and and how about side. No, Alex trebek's with his his cancer announcement. Did you see that? I just heard about that. Yeah. I mean, I I it's it's really sad news. But like the way he handled it in the video is so endearing and I can't he liked cracks. He's like, hey. Well, I have three years left on my contract. So I gotta finish that up. You know, like, okay. So it's. This your next job. Oh, I mean that would be the pretty sweet. But I don't think I could fill the shoes. I mean who could fill those shoes. I don't think anybody could. It'd be interesting. I feel like. If you could grow the mustache. Yes. I guess that would be true. Yeah. I feel like I could host a show called kind of jeopardy or like like some of the stuff's not even that accurate. Like we're talking about right now. It's like, no, no, it's fine next question. All right. Kind of jeopardy. All right. Here's number four for you. Katie two thousand one experiment found not just primates, but what a quasi mammals recognize themselves in MIR's. Number. It is dolphins hundred percent. Correct. Nice job. There was a long pause there. I assume that there was no way he could Google that. And that amount of time. And I think you got dolphins. Nice job. I was just repeating the question in my head again. That's now is just a lucky guess because dolphins are smart speaking speaking of googling do you ever catch people cheating, and what do you do when you catch them? It definitely make a big scene out of calling them out. And because the other teams like that she will know when when you really enforce the rules, so my policy is that if you or anyone on your team is like on their phone at all during the rounds than you're automatically like ineligible to win the gift certificates and the prizes. So sometimes I'll just, you know, you know, say, okay. Well, you guys, you know, you lost your you can stay in play. But you can't win the prizes. And then other times though, you know, I'll call him out. And then just tell them like to be really extra careful because I think that most of the time when I see people on their phones or not actually Google in the answers, they're like taking a selfie or sending someone at text or something like that. It's hard especially in two thousand nineteen to be like, nobody could be on their phone for any reason. You know, it's like, and I can usually see the phone, and I'm like, I see it's a text message. You know what I mean? But the biggest thing is people really like to tell you as the hosts that other people have their phones up. I'm like, I always I'm Mike. All right. I'll keep an eye on it. Also ninety nine percent of the time. The people that are straight up cheating on their cell phones are so far behind that. If they use their phone the rest of the time, they wouldn't even get third place. So it's like it's like a weird thing where I have to enforce it. But then like I half jokingly like brush it aside. But then also every once in a while, it will be an issue like one time these these two guys used their phone the entire time, and they were in first place. And I'm like, hey, I can't give you guys first place used your phone, and they're like, oh, you can't do that. And I'm like come on guys. Like, two hours of trivia, just looking it up on your phone. Why is that even fun? You know, so. Yeah. Get it. That's why they're here is to just actually talk with their friends, and you know, see what's going on up stairs instead of just googling contest. I had a head an instance one time where a girl she would like wait till the first half of the round was red. And she would write down all the questions, and then she would excuse yourself to go to the bathroom and look up like all the first answers. And then she'd come back with the answer said like the first six, and then hopefully do well on the last five and someone goes, you know, she's doing that right now. Like, I had no idea that's like covert shit. You know? Actually back in Montana at this one bird that I was out we had to like enforce, and I couldn't like enforce it strictly because you know, I have no jurisdiction in these places. It was kind of like this voluntary. Like, no going to the bathroom during the round psych because people were watching each other do that and the competition was so stiff at that particular location that everybody kinda complied with it and it. Yeah, we did itself out. That's how you solve it. All right. We got number four from you for me. Okay. I actually didn't ask number three. Oh, sorry. I might have skipped to then. Okay. Here's number three. Stay puffed P F T marshmallows is a fictional brand. From what movie franchise who I happen to know this one I saw this movie in theaters with the wife like our first year in LA, they play a lot of classic movies out here like all year round. And this one came up on my thought, it'd be cool to see in theaters. So I think we saw her on Halloween like two thousand thirteen and on the big screen. It was very cool. Ghostbusters is the answer. Yes, ghostbusters. I love it. I just rented. The the Ghostbusters cartoon for my kid from the library to watch. And she loves slammer, which I guess was the point of the show to get kids to to love and by all the slammer merchandise. Did you ever hear that slammer was kind of modeled after John Belushi who died who was supposed to be in the movie, but then passed away? They have heard that. I always. Yeah. I always thought that was an interesting aside where they're like. Yeah. Like, his grossness, and in sloppiness is kind of like, that's how Belushi would have been on this set in a way. And I was like that's kind of cool. Very good. So let's have you do number four since I skipped it on you. Supermodel was valedictorian of her Illinois, Illinois Hugo high school when she graduated in nineteen eighty four. Let's see Illinois supermodel, eighty four. So. Okay. So there's a lot of people that are from Illinois in my head. Somebody like Jenny McCarthy is from Illinois, but she's not really like supermodel, but I guess she was in playboy. So she's a model. So she's kind of in the back of my head. But I think it's somebody like Cindy Crawford is Cindy Crawford from Illinois is that right? Yes. Bye. Bye brother had a city graphic poster on our ceiling in the room. We shared way too long as teenage teenage guys. I just remember he's like I'm putting this up, and I was way young. I was ten years younger, and I was like, okay. And she had like these yellow bathing suit on and it was like the iconic Cindy Crawford. Poster. I gotta find that and send him one for his birthday. That'd be kind of fun. His birthday is coming up a couple of weeks that might be perfect. All right here, we go number five what ship builder led a group that bought the Yankees for ten million dollars in nineteen Seventy-three. What shipbuilder led a group that bought the Yankees for ten million nineteen Seventy-three? Shipbuilder? Oh my gosh. I have no idea. Shipbuilder part is is kind of weird. I don't know. I never knew this guy was a shipbuilder. I know his name for sure. You can maybe take a guess if you were like. George stein. Franker yoursel close George Steinbrenner. But yeah, you got it Steinbrenner. Yep. George Steinbrenner number five perfect. Well done. Are you a sports scale you like sports? Only knew that. I pulled that out of my Seinfeld references. That's what I would have done to. I don't watch any real sports. And that's about all I would know him from. Very cool. All right, number six on your end or number five number five on your end. Well, since you just said, you didn't like sports. Here's sports question for him. Rocky next question. Okay. What college did three times Super Bowl champion Steve Young attain and play football at? My answer is Brigham Young University. Because way, is that that can't be right. No. I was about to make a joke and say because his last name is young that that's the real answer. Literally, the great great great great grandson of Brigham Young. Holy shit bad. Just made me feel real smart. Because I I was I I was just kind of doing a yes, and improv type thing where I was I Brigham Young because the last names young next question and that was the actual answer. Holy cow. I'm gonna brag to my brothers who loves sports that. I knew that question. Very cool. That is a cool. Fact, he's he's he's a descendant of the guy the university. And he went there. I love it. That's very cool. Number six for you, what soup from Campbell's? Is commonly added to green bean casserole. It is cream of mushroom. You enjoy that green bean casserole. Side note, real quick quick story about that last time I had it and probably last time in my life that I'll have it was at a church potluck in Utah not far from Brigham Young University. And it was for my wife's Grandpa's funeral and all these people from the church brought these dishes, and the green bean casserole was spoiled and everybody got sick except me because I didn't eat it. It was brutal. And I cannot eat that probably ever gun just because of how food boys and everyone got. It's ex because I do like it. And I still think it looks good. Sometimes maybe I'll give it a try at some point. On top deserves soaking. I kinda just want to like eat those with a spoon, I think, maybe just. Yeah. We all have to do that. Sometimes right. Here's number six from you. Okay. What actor posed nude for one thousand nine hundred seventy two centerfold in cosmopolitan magazine. This is the actor. I'm thinking of in the picture, it's very vintage looking and that mustaches in full form. And I think it's Burt Reynolds. Was he actually nude or was he was covered up because it was Cosmo. Probably right. But he was new. His hand covering his genitals. Like, it's not like a full. You know, you can't see everything. But he's dude that's an iconic picture, which someone should blow up until like one of those twin style pillowcases for the big twin pillows or the double pillow or whatever. That's come. That would be a good. I think that'd be a big seller. Here's number seven for my list for you. Katie. What was the name of Terry McMillan's bestselling nineteen Ninety-two novel about four African American friends. Oh, waiting to exhale one hundred percent. Correct. Waiting to exhale ninety. You nailed it number seven well done. Have you ever seen the movie I've never seen it? When I was in high school. I loved the soundtrack. Oh nice. Who was on there? I'm going to get some some groups the food Fuji's with the Fuji's on there. No, it was like, Whitney, Houston and stub UV. Okay. Awesome. Number seven. What do you got? Gotta music question for you. Okay. Number seven in nineteen eighty-five Michigan's state legislature. Officially declared dues voice a natural resource. Somebody's voice was a natural resource. What does that even mean? Michigan declared it and natural resource. Eighty-five you say. If this was like ninety five or five, my guess would be Tim Allen because he does a lot of those voice over ads where it's like pure Michigan with his voice in it. And I could see that being a weird double on a play on words with his voice being a natural resource for how much he promotes like tourism there and stuff, but eighty-five I feel like be way too. That was before he was famous. So let's see somebody's voice from Michigan. I have absolutely no idea. So I'm going to guess Mel Blanc who did the voice of Bugs Bunny? It was a research Franklin that makes sense. That's pretty good a natural resource. That's pretty cool. That's a cool compliment. No one's going to ever say that about my voice because I sound like I'm still going through puberty. It squeaks so often here's number eight for you for my list in what sequel film sequels in quotes does Daryl Hannah's character kill Michael madsen's character with a Black Mamba snake? Oh, I have no idea. Have you seen a lot of Daryl Hannah, Michael Madsen movies? Now only Daryl Hannah movie, I can remember is that mermaid one splash. Yes. It's not splash. That would be a dark seen in splash. She's murdering someone with a snake? It is. Yeah. Any guesses or you're going to give the answer? Is it quest for fire? It's not quest for fire. It's kill Bill volume two. So that's the sequel part. Yeah. Kill bill. She has an eye patch or character. I forget her name. The nurse. Maybe I think is her name in that movie or something, and yes, she goes to his trailer and gives him a box. And he opens it. It's a snake and bites him and he dies. Slowly. It's pretty pretty brutal scene. Pretty brutal. Yeah. Number eight. That was kill Bill. All right. Couple more questions from you couple more from me, and we'll wrap this thing up. Number eight, what nineteen ninety three Robin Williams movie one Academy Award for best makeup. What was the year ninety three? Oh, that's a tough one nineteen Ninety-three Robin Williams movie best makeup. Let's see hook had some good makeup. I think that came out in nineteen ninety Hewson in that weird movie toys, but that couldn't have one for makeup couldn't one for anything. That's pretty bad movie ninety three. And Robin Williams. Why can't I think of this answer? I'm a huge Robin Williams fan. I think I've seen all his stuff. Like once you hear the answer. It's like, oh, there makes so much sense. It's not Eighty-three. Right. It's ninety three ninety three. If it was like more like eighty three, and I don't know when it came out. I would've guessed Popeye 'cause he has the crazy pop. I make up on. And there's a lot of cool set design and stuff in that movie. But ninety three Robin Williams. And this is make-up. Oh, this is a weird guest. But is it? The birdcage. And now, but I can see where you're coming from on that not. Okay. What do you got MRs Doubtfire? Oh, wow. I'm real dumb. Yeah. That's the that's like the nineties ninety three movie, of course, with the makeup. I don't know why couldn't picture that. I was like maybe in the birdcage. There's some crazy makeup seen some like the I couldn't couldn't pull it. But it was good. That's a great question. Well done. All right. We got nine and ten. Here's number nine. What US city is home to the Westminster dog show since eighteen seventy seven. In New York. I believe. Yeah. That's the answer New York City. Well done. Yeah. I'm gonna accept that. As an answer. Even though you might have been doing an ellipses over the podcast, New York City is correct. Westminster dog show well done I would have probably guessed Westminster, which a lot of people did when I asked this question life. That's got to be a place. Right. All right. Number nine from you. When thirty nine members of the Heaven's Gate religious group or cult committed mass suicide in nineteen ninety seven. They were all wearing what brand of shoes. I know that they were white. I think there were high tops and. I think it's gotta be probably Nike's if I had to guess white Nike's white. It is. Okay. Cool. All right. Very cool. That was me kind of dancing around. I'm like, maybe it's like case Swiss something weird. But I'm like, I got to be white because you've heard them like you've heard the phrase like shaved head white Nike's, drink the Kool aid like those three things kind of here, and there, and you mentioned earlier because we said that it's not actually cool eight. It was flavor aid. Is that right? Flavor. Aid the Kool aid rip number ten last question for media what dish of meat and vegetables cooked in an Indian style sauce is also the last name of an NBA player. What dish of meat and vegetables cooked in an Indian style sauce is also the last name of an NBA player. Yes. Tandoori? That's a good guess it's actually curry like Steph curry. Okay. Yeah. Curry was the answer their number ten and kind of a tough one to figure out if you're not in California where you hear his name literally every day when the NBA seasons going on. But yeah, there it is curry here's number ten from you. Last question, the whole podcast. Nokia stirred it in eighteen sixty five as a one mill toilet paper manufacturer in what Nordic country. That's a loaded question. No Kia like the cell phones. Toilet paper manufacturer, they made toilet paper in eighteen sixty five in a Nordic country. Oh, man. I'm so dense. I didn't even really know what Nordic country means what's that like Scandinavia? That's my guest Scandinavia. Finland. Okay. Scandinavia on a Nordic country, or is that a Scandinavian country? Confusing with the Nordic and the Scandinavian countries because you've got like, Sweden, Switzerland. Norway Finland Iceland, and some of them are considered Nordic and some of them are considered Scandinavian and some of them are considered both. Okay. Double check for Finland, and it's definitely Nordic. Very good. Awesome. Well, I didn't really keep score. But it sounds like I got maybe half. And you got more than half. I think you only missed. Let's see you only missed curry kill Bill and smucker's. So you only miss three. Three and a half. Very cool. We're very close. Awesome. So we would kill it each other's trivia nights. Basically. That's awesome. And. Sometime. I love to come. Check out your trivia. Yeah. You know, we're going to have to do we're going to have to just trade routes kind of like a paper route like I'll come out to Hawaii, and I'll host your nights for a week, and you come here and host mine nights for a week. But you do have to take care of my kids who poop and cry a lot. So get ready for that. That would actually be like an awesome reality show like like the life of a trivia host. And like we switch like that would be a cool episode. If one of our lives was a reality show, so I'll get I'll get to writing because those things are definitely written. So we'll figure out the best way to do it. But awesome, Katy Christoffersen the trivia girl on Instagram. Anything you wanna plug before you get out of here. Just yes. Anybody's ever fence themselves. Visiting island of cou why you can just look me up really, easy and pretty much the only trivia girl around here. So. Just use some time. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be awesome. And hope to connect with the again, thanks so much for being on the show. All right. There. It was Katie Christoffersen. All man. I'm so glad to know her. She is a delight to talk to and such great questions such great stories and banter, and Katie you're welcome on the show any time hope to have you on again, very very soon. If you're looking for content, you could check her out again, just sent her message on Instagram Instagram dot com slash the trivia, girl or just search for the trivia girl, you'll find her and if you need some content for your quizzes, maybe you're hosting somewhere. And you need some new material hit her up. She writes, her a bunch of different bars. Like she mentioned in the episode. So check it out the trivia girl on Instagram. All right, guys. Thank you so much for checking out today's episode. Like, I said, I got some new Nintendo switch games if you want to add me, my friend code is listed in the show notes of the episode. I'll make sure that's in there. If you wanna play some Mario Kart with me some smash brothers with me, which I don't own. I have to return it to the library today. Which stinks? But I am going to buy that when it goes on sale even just ten. N- bucks off would be great. And also, yo she's crafted world comes out March twenty third pants so many games for the switch. But I just sold my PlayStation four, and I'm ready to focus in on intendo once again as a gamer came so get my friend code at me will play some games. Also support the show at patriot dot com slash trivia with buds. I would love for you throw a buck even just a buck. It's the access to a lot of cool content, and you get in our chat room on discord. And we send some cool stuff in there. 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11 Trivia Questions on 80s Weird Al Songs

Trivia With Budds

07:19 min | 3 months ago

11 Trivia Questions on 80s Weird Al Songs

"It's eleven trivia questions on Weird L. in the eighties named the Real Song L. is Perry dating from the decade. This trivia would buds man. WanNa be and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thank you so much for checking out my show which comes out every single day still playing a little bit catch up to get back on track. I've been doing these two hour live streams every night on facebook and instagram. And they take up a lot of my time preparing a bunch of new content every day basically instead of writing a trivia night a week I am writing one a day and sometimes I have content to work with sometimes. I'm right now new stuff and it takes time plus gotta do a lot of stuff with the kids around the yard to keep them busy. We had a nice big water balloon. Fight today those water balloons that fill up all at the same time. Highly recommend those. The only pain in the butt is picking up all the pieces once you have exploded all the balloons but still fun nonetheless. I'm trying to get my hands on some of the old school super soaker where you pump them and they sprayed for a while with the pressure. They don't really make them like that anymore. I bet one exploded or something and somebody sued So now when you pump pump and they spray but I want to. I want the pressure so I can la the kids. Can I can pump up the kids. And then they can actually spray them so I think I'm going to try and buy some old ones if I can. If not too expensive like super soaker fifty or one hundred or one fifties or to hundreds got the double barrel. That was so cool. My friend Ron used to have this monster super soaker and you could hook it up to the hose and it would just like auto fill you put the nozzle on the front of it and it would fill super quickly and it was tons of fun so maybe I'll see if it could find that one on Ebay or something. We are going to jump into some weird L. A. D. SONGS. Guys a big weird. Al Fan and this was from a eighties music trivia night. I did the other night earlier this week and we used it as the confidence round. But today I'm going to read you questions and you just have to come up with the name of the real song that Al is parodying in his title came. We're going to jump into those eleven questions right now. Here we go all right guys. It's weird AL IN THE EIGHTY S. Here's question number one. I think I'm a clone now. What was the real song? Al Was doing a parody of their number one. I think I'm a clone now number. One question or two LASAGNA. Number two weird Al Eighty songs lasagna. Question number three the Brady Bunch number three the Brady Bunch Number. Four was the name. Ricky number four was that a parody of Ricky number five was my Bologna number five my baloney and number six. I Love Rocky Road Number six. I Love Rocky Road Number Seven. I want a new duck number seven I want a new duck like a surgeon like a surgeon number. Nine is Yoda Yoda number ten. I'll thing I'll thank and your bonus question weird Al in the eighties for two points. What Year to els movie? Uhf Get released. What Year did you H F? Come out for two points. Those are all your questions for Weird L. Related Trivia. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. All RIGHT GUYS. Get your accordions ready. It's time to Polka. And I got all the answers for Weird Al Trivia. Let's see how you did number. One I think I'm a clone now was a parody of. I think we're alone now number one. I think we're alone now. Number two LASAGNA was a parody of La Bamba number two La Bamba number three the brady bunch. This was kind of a tough. One was a parody of the safety dance so it was the tune in music of the safety dance for the song was called the Brady Bunch number. Three number four ricky was a parody of Mickey by Toni Basil. You can't read all about the time that I ran into Toni. Basil at a Weird Hollywood Trivia Party in my upcoming book. That's right maybe you don't. I'm working on a little memoir Trivia Book so it will have fun stories about things that have happened to me and some trivia about the themes and topics of the story. So I think I'm going to have about fifty stories in the book and it'll be about fifty eleven question quizzes so they'll be all different content than you've heard on the podcast before and it'll be kind of a fun little thing that I could sell after shows and sell on Amazon and things like that so If you like reading stuff that's coming out at the beginning of twenty twenty one number four ricky and Micky number five my Baloney is actually my Bologna in this song and that rhymes with my Sharona number five my Sharona. By the neck number six I love rocky road was a parody of Joan Jett and the Black Arts. I love rock and roll number seven. I want to duck was a parody of I want a new drug. A new drug number eight surgeon was like a Virgin Madonna number. Eight number nine. Yoda was a parody of Lola by the kinks and number ten I will thing was a parody of tone Luke's wild thing number ten wild thing and the bonus for two points. What Year did AL's movie? Uhf come out. It's a great movie if you love spoofs If you love just goofy eighties action. This is a great movie that closed out the decade in Nineteen eighty-nine. Go Watch HF. I highly recommend it. All right guys. That is your quiz for today. Weird eighty songs. We'll be had fun playing along with the show. We have one more question for you. It's the question today along with an eagle. What animal is on the Mexican flag? Tweet me your answer at Ryan. Buds Email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for prize. Yesterday to answer was buzz. Light Year of Star Command and your Trivia team name of today is alien versus Predator versus Brown versus the board of Education. It's a long one but I've never seen it before today. So there you go alien Predator Brown Board of Education. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for leaving. I tunes reviews. Thanks for all the great messages you. Send me about how you enjoy the show. And we'll see tomorrow for more trivia with buds cheers.

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Quentin Tunes in, Drops Out

Halloween Unmasked

42:51 min | 1 year ago

Quentin Tunes in, Drops Out

"This episode of Quentin Tarantino's feature presentation is brought to you by Ziprecruiter and they have a question for you. ziprecruiter wants to not know the difference between working being hard and working smart because according to Ziprecruiter here's the difference working smart is about spending your time effectively not just spending your time not just chilling Roland not just listening to a podcast though you got to do that to you got to do that. Keep listening. Keep listening here. Let me tell you a little bit more about Ziprecruiter they use technology and tools to make hiring more or efficient and effective for you. What that means for you is if you are looking for somebody to fill the job they send your job to over one hundred of the Web's leading job boards with one click and the technology acknowledged used it doesn't just up there? It's against thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience for your job and actively invites them to apply so ziprecruiter you get qualified. Candidates fast in fact Ziprecruiter is so effective that four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a call it a candidate throughout the site in the very first day so if you want to try it if you're looking for somebody good to work for you what you can do it now as you can go to Ziprecruiter dot com slash upon that's ziprecruiter dot com slash U._p.. O. N. TO TRY IT for Free Free Ziprecruiter the fastest way to hire and now let's get started with the show back when I got back to California every boy in school sign of the dragon except me in fact I even heard a kid even say wow. Is there any movie that anybody that that more kids have seen more than air the dragon and they're like like no. There's not well except for me but I didn't even let people know I didn't see it and I had heard enough about it and you never let yourself be put in that position again always now every well. I never let I could talk enough about it as if I had if I had seen <music> twitter Andino is famous for two things making movies and watching now that you're so busy are there. Do you have to make choices. Are there things you don't see ONA would look. I'm not in my twenty s anymore so there's a whole lot of stuff. There's a whole lot of stuff. I don't see I mean you know decide what not to say. It's more like how do I decide assignment to say. I think that's more the site of the see saw the way it is. <hes> I found myself watching older movies more. Also I have a big thumbprint thumbprint collegiate and I have the new beverly at my disposal so if I really WANNA see thirty five millimeter I could watch thirty five millimeter every night of my life and he can watch judge those old thirty-five millimeters with a crowd at his new beverly cinema where he programs all the movies owning your own movie theater is like this steroidal Superhero version of when Clinton was a video store clerk now instead of recommending one movie to One person every night he hand picks a double bill to show to hundreds but during during the time when I wasn't a film critic just in my twenties and working at a video store I saw everything anyway all right I paid for it and and and I was kind of okay I was even okay sight seeing seeing movies I didn't like so at least I could say I saw them. I knew how I felt about them so for me wanting to leave the house and go watch a d._V._d.. Which is what I consider digital digital projection to go watch a D._V._d.? With strangers which basically just television public all right I have to either be bored or I really really want to see the movie movie or I want. The movie theatrical experience and I don't care that it's just a crappy d._v._d.. Do you keep up with the avengers not now I I started to <hes> <hes> whenever we start talking about endgame to such a degree <hes> I think the last thing the last superhero movie I paid to see at at the movie theater was wonder woman. <hes> no I take that back. I did pay to see wonder woman but I know wall is making the movie I wouldn't Sasha's them <hes> but but <hes> I think the last <hes> marvel one I saw at the theaters was <hes> <hes> Black Panther so I got I I didn't get get caught up in everybody's talking about En- game but but you know the entire world they were having the entire world was having a Zeitgeist discussion about two things neither of which which I followed either avengers or game game of thrones <hes> but you need to feel out of the loop you either that I'm used to being <hes> so the thing about it was <hes> I was even tempted for game of thrones but to some degree the Ed game discussion detect me a little bit so I started to at home starting to watch a couple of the marble movies to see if I could catch up on my own in a way that would be interesting so I watched <music> a I hadn't seen it before I saw captain America's civil war authorities rocks some kind of working my way down to them. <music> welcome to the second episode of Quentin Tarantino's feature presentation part of the Ringer podcast network on your host film critic Amy Nicholson and this is the three part mini series where we try to get inside the movie mad mind of Quentin Tarantino. I've picked five movies that have played the new beverly pointblank enter the Dragon Valley Girl Hollywood shuffle and Boogie nights to see how they connect to Clinton's life and career and his new movie once upon a time in Hollywood. If you won't gotTA stop once upon a time in Hollywood is finally out so while I did not get into any specific plot points episode one as of now they are fair game. You've been word also an episode one. I'll be honest. I was surprised to learn that young Clinton's point blank. That's gorgeous gorgeous violent thriller in theaters when he was like six. That's the same age he was when once upon a time in Hollywood takes place nineteen sixty nine a time when Hollywood is about to undergo a major change the Manson murders made the whole town start locking their doors and the easy rider hippies they were motorcycling in to chase out all the old stars like Leonardo DiCaprio's abuse. If these Cowboy Rick Dalton and even know Clinton was a kid he was aware of all of best his parents took him to the movies and when they divorced his mom's boyfriends got on his good side by taking him to the theater it all worked out except for the year that it didn't which happens to be nineteen seventy-three the year of enter the dragon enter the dragon was a massive hit starring Bruce Lee as a Shaolin Martial artist turn spy who competes in a tournament on a private island to learn more about the competitions evil ringleader Mr Hahn a good fight should be like a small play but seriously the movie was huge it changed pop culture and and it turned Bruce Lee into a megastar before this moment grossly was talent waiting for his big break. He spent the majority of his time in old school. Nineteen sixties Hollywood would as a stuntman and a T._v.. Sidekick and a part-time Kung Fu teacher to realize students Sharon tate and Roman Polanski good martial artist does not become intense but ready thinking yet not dreaming whatever may come but Bruce Lee never got to enjoy the success of enter the dragon he died the month before it was released and Quentin Tarantino who loves Bruce Lee so much that Thurman Spent Kill Bill Wearing Bruce. Lee's his famous yellow jumpsuit. He didn't see it either because his parents had sent him back to Tennessee. I have one big giant hole in my seventies film watching calendar and that was the year I was in Tennessee <hes> which was like from the of June June of seventy two through <hes> May of a seventy-three see spending. You're feeling almost a little more isolated from film because as you'd been right in the thick of it here going to double features other downtown and then you're back in Tennessee where I don't know what the theater scene no well. There was no theater scene there was one driving there is one drive in and <hes> and it was only open during during the summertime and so me and some of my friends would walk to see movies the only other than like a grind house regional movies that we'd play there but wouldn't play in Los Angeles that would come through town really quickly. If it's hot summer in Barefoot County or something like that I started by that yeah. It was very frustrating because all the fetus were Knoxville and we just had this drive in the only the only new movies that actually played was white lightning and then walking tall but then walking tall once it played they played their all summer long but oftentimes it would be because it was just like a son who ran the drive in it was just whatever the exchange house sent him so he was like oftentimes. It was movies like a a few years old so it was like biker films did really good so all of a sudden you get like evoke George Hamilton Evil Knievel and William Smith Chrome and hot leather role and now we all love that that was all great but one was driving me crazy was it's like all the movies of seventy three. I didn't see in seventy three. I saw them later so I didn't see paper moon. When it came out I sought two years later on a double feature with <hes> tatum the double feature with a bad Was the was the year of the martial art movie explosion and none of that was playing by. I mean there's only one drive in any way but yeah we were in a place called South Clinton and the the biggest town next to us I would have a lot of theaters was Knoxville and they had a lot of theaters in Knoxville. We're my trailer park trash. I mean there is no way I'm going to talk my grandmother into driving to another city to go see the fans to go to a fancy movie theater. I mean you know she was a she was a hillbilly she was she she was poor. She didn't like going out in public. I mean even if if she even went to a coffee shop she felt nervous that she felt people. Were watching her got some for you but Clinton must have good memories of Knoxville to he honors it in pulp fiction. It's where Bruce Willis characters whole family is from including that famous watch watch I purchased by great grandfather during the first World War was bought a little general store Knoxville Tennessee Z. and it's even where Bruce Willis chooses to live in peace after he throws the big fight Fuck Scotty that is good news that is great news man Yeah no five hundred GonNa leave in the morning. It'd probably a couple of days. We'll get down to KNOXVILLE. Okay my brother Yeah you're right. You got them right all right Scott. Thanks so much you'll be at Tennessee time. Cool brother but Tennessee is also the place where Tarantino put big daddy's plantation in Django unchained. I'm struck by that by what early Seventies Rural Tennessee was blake for a city boy who had gone to a majority black school in L._A.. And I'm struck by this image of a ten year old kid whose whole life is Hollywood wondering if adults have decided he'll never get to go back to the place where he feels most at home the movie theater. Everyone acted really suspicious with me about the whole Tennessee thing because it's it's like I was told I was going to Tennessee to spend the summer with my grandmother. That's all I was told so I would be coming back. I guess in August and start school were had been going to school in California and then all of a sudden next thing I know September starts and they're enrolling me in school and no one saying anything no one oh by the wait things have changed now. It was like it was all decided for me and just just not just tell quinten about it and so now I guess I'm here and now I'm in school. Oh and now I'm going to school in Tennessee and now I'm you know and now I'm bound round a bunch of kids who are all racist all right I gotta deal with it and and <hes> it was it was it was a it was a very disturbing culture shock. Actually <hes> I mean in retrospect. I'm almost glad it happened because it gave me a different perspective on life and gave me a different perspective of class and of people it took me out of the world that I knew which actually is not the worst thing in the world to happen to a child all right to have it. It's not fun and I didn't enjoy it and I actually had a lot of pain during the time but in retrospect I'm guess I'm Kinda glad it happened. It gave me far more far more detailed memories about a very important time in history that I was living that I would have been able to completely over my head. That's true and so then you get to catch up on on the conquest when I mean to say on the keep distracting myself is the fact that okay so I'm really into this idea of martial art movies so I can't see them. Oh does your hearing about them and you can't say yes. I'm interested in a vacuum. You're like tortured by the fact that you can hear them so what I would do is I would go to the school library array in the newspaper for the they they had the newspaper the Knoxville News Sentinel and I get the Knoxville News Sentinel on an open up up to the to the <hes> to the movie page and there was a period of their. Maybe it's just because it's what I wanted to see. It was as if no other movies were playing in the theaters except Kung Fu movies. It was like all the big theaters they weren't killing themselves to show Serpico they but they were killing the Chinese professionals at the Chinatown kid and and a triple irons and stuff like that and they just like filled the fucking a local television stations with all the T._v. spots for those shows after those movies I am I would go and I would just look at one newspaper ad after another priest paper out of all the movies I will never see and it was so frustrating. I'm picturing you drooling so much. The paper is getting soaked but so then win. Did you finally get to see the dragon okay so back when I got back to California every boy in school sign with around except me in fact I even heard a kid even say wow. Is there any movie that anybody that that more more kids have seen more than air the dragon and they're like no. There's not well except for me but I didn't even let people know I didn't see and I had heard enough about it and you never let yourself be put in that position again always every well. I never let I could talk enough about it as if I had if I had seen I think enter the dragon is the second official Kung Fu movie that I saw so it came out in seventy three. I don't see it till seventy seven but the weird thing though is by the time I finally watch it almost four years after the fact by this point in time I've I've Seen Kentucky Fried movie so I've seen the fistful yen spoof of enter the dragon not knowing exactly it was a line for line line scene for scene spoof of enter the Dragon I mean I knew the guy was obviously doing Bruce Lee but I didn't know it was a complete scene for Scene Mad magazine takeoff on the Dragon. This is not a away. We need total concentration now once again this time we he so. I'm sitting there watching air. The Dragon and I believe me I've seen seat. I've Seen Kentucky Fried movie five times by this time so now I'm finally watching enter the dragon the movie I wanted to see it's like every other line line is a line that the Zucker brothers with and did something stupid with at I'm and I just keep seeing the Phantom jokes right of this movie. Let's back up for a Second Kentucky Fried Movie. Is this pioneering stream-of-consciousness comedy spoof the ancestor of airplane keen she n._p._R.. And robot chicken and its version of Bruce Lee is one part bad ass Kung Fu warrior one part Dorothy from the wizard of Oz. All I wanted calling bull right. Now is the goal back home back to Kansas but my dear you had the power to go back home all alone it. All you have to do is click your heels together three times and say there's no place like it has no place like home. There's no place like home which in a way makes Kentucky Fried Movie One hundred percent the mishmash movie crazy psyche of of young Tarantino but he's still a little mad at it. It was kinda ruined it to have seen the spoof of it five the time before I crack me up I remember I was talking to some guy wants a video archives and he was talking. He was just the right perfect age or he was like <hes> he he said he saw space balls before he saw star wars so he saw like space balls at like eight and loved it and thought it was amazing and then he watched the star wars like what is this boring version of space. It's baseball so that the jokes who he wants to watch this piece of crap which I guess if you would start with baseball you could actually think I mean hey. I feel like I was shaped in so much of that same way I read all the mad magazine saw I ever saw the originals of all this stuff but what does it mean for Bruce Lee he was around to see any of the I know touch into the moment in <hes> Roman Polanski's autobiography Roman by Polanski where they were friends from plant Alaskan Bruce Lee and he hit him up much of time. Sri Probably talked him trying to talk him into direct a <hes> the silent fluid time to the point that Roman was probably cardiac this guy out of here <hes> but <hes> but there's a really touching part of him leaving the GRAUMAN's Chinese theatre bruce really never getting any kind of satisfaction faction in Hollywood while he was alive. I mean the dragon but you know what I mean before that when Roman numeral and so it's the movies the biggest moving living in America and its Roman leaving the grauman's Chinese theatre having just seen it with a packed audience and Russa's that he's not here you too enjoy it. I mean do you think that trade off is ever worth it being the biggest person but not getting to see it <hes> conceivably if you're Bruce Lee and you're like that much of a your that much of an icon and you are the the you know the beginning and the end of a of a sport arturo <unk> genre or you. That's you know that's. That's something <hes> that's a lot. Actually that's a lot <hes> <hes> is it worth while you're you're dead who cares game that book get into the story of heard about how he for a minute thought Bruce Lee might have been the one who killed eight yeah yeah there's about seeing the glasses and everything anything and so he earned killer left behind a pair of glasses and Bruce Lee was like I forgot my glasses. I lost them like Oh dear I will go with you. Did you kill my wife. The I know he's and he said he felt like a real. <hes> <hes> <hes> he felt like a real trader for even thinking that but but he said the police told him to think that way that it Bloodletting and then the cops insist to you that it's somebody you know I mean what I love about what you do with these films including once upon a time in Hollywood. Is this idea of like alternative history. I wonder having Bruce Lee in this film. Did you ever think of the alternative history of Bruce Lee being the killer. No no no I wouldn't do that but Clinton does have Bruce Lee lose a fight to cliff boot. The stuntman played by Brad Pitt. I've been thinking about that scene a lot because it's already pretty polarizing Clinton's version of Bruce. Lee's cocky which is true but he loses which is shocking especially when he loses to an older milk-drinking equally doggy white guy wearing a Tuxedo that same feels like an off handed an insult to lease legacy which given Tarantino's love really doesn't make sense but then again what if that scene is one of the keys to the movie it's cliff Bruce Old Hollywood smashing up against Bruce Lee as new Hollywood years before he was taken seriously and though booth wins the fight and and his is defend spends the honor of his generation he loses the war because of that fight booth can't get any more work as a Hollywood stuntman. His onscreen career is effectively family over and Lee onto a major star. You must remember the enemy has only images and illusions <music> behind which hides his true motives destroy the image and he will break enemy fast forward the movie a few years ears and Lee is changing history while Pitt. He's probably still licking dog food. Pitt's character is so so so so so over the top goal that I do you want to watch bruce. Lee Kick his ass. What are your thoughts when facing the opponent phased all opponent time for an intermission in this episode of Quentin Tarantino's feature presentation is brought to you by care of Cara is a subscription service that delivers vitamins and supplements supplements customized for your specific health needs just take a short quiz and answer questions about your diet lifestyle fitness and health goals and care of puts together a personalized plan just for you you whether you're looking for energy better sleep or something else to help you fill your healthiest? Give yourself support the season with care of their fun. 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You're going to go to audible dot com slash Tarantino or text Tarantino to five hundred five hundred. That's audible A._U.. D. I. E. L. E. dot com slash Tarantino or text Tarantino to five hundred five hundred and with that. Let's get back to the show time for us to fast forward one decades nineteen eighty-three Quentin Tarantino's she knows L._A.. Has Undergone another cultural revolution. When he turned on the radio? This is what he heard and if you're at the mall rocking to the Moon Zappa hit Song Valley girl you can also see the classic Comedy Valley Girl Directed By Martha Coolidge Shoe store. I like it stars Nicolas Cage in his first lead role as a Hollywood punk named Randy who falls in love with a girl from the valley but Randy has to get past her snobby sheltered friends Joe. You're turnabout all the parties. What are you being Wilko's like? You'll never be able to go as long as you got randy like don't have parties over there where at the zoo they think Julia should ditch randy and get back together with her jerk valley boyfriend. Tommy played by Michael Bowen who else Zor or the value can touch me. She must be really freaking out. I Love Valley girl and I got to admit I was surprised to hear that Quinton Lives Valley girl to hear the movie screenwriters talking about meeting Quinton one of the first times I met Quentin Tarantino we had dinner and at dinner basically he recited the script <hes> line inverse yeah actually I've only met <hes> went and once at a party years later and I don't know maybe says this to everybody. He meets whatever film it is. I don't know but I chose to believe him. He said Oh man he says you know. Valley girl is my favorite film and another girl. This movie comes <unk> out in nineteen eighty three. You're twenty years old but I was thinking that high school is actually a really long way away for you. This is such a high school movie but you had left high school five years before I had this thought like arm surprise you went to go see valley girl. Wouldn't you feel a little old fritter like it was for kind of a younger group of people than you well. I saw everything you know and and <hes> and in particularly in the eighties you didn't think that way about Highschool Bubis because the people in it where where your age or older for the cages around my age so I'm not thinking Oh that's too who young for me. I could actually play that role where you nick cage type. At the time I think we both kind of shaggy dog kind of guys you know <hes> nothing I was the sexiest him but I mean maybe we will kind of shaggy dog cutting guys <hes> I was actually both me and him of our she thought we'd be good brothers in a movie at some point <hes> but the thing is that you should make the happened. We've always talked. We've talked about acting. It's more than anything else. They just never had one but I will tell you gonNA do reach in my pocket. I'm dawn. I'm going to go down to the phone booth phone. Call come right back up and talk always barging like that Awesome Martha Coolidge I mean she in this movie. Put forth this dial up this way of talking that I think changed the way people really spoke and then also the way people spoke in movies. I don't know about that. I mean the song does that and they kind of do an okay version of it seems like a movie version of the song though I I really got to push back against that that's Moon Zappa. WHO's GonNa hold that in the song? Her Shit was on point and it sounded like a new language and it kind of blew. Everyone's mind the movie. Is them trying to talk like that. It's it's not coming. It doesn't have the same authenticity as moon zappa dozen her raps in the song. I'm this is my pain so much. Valley girl is about how conformist the Valley Society is mass culture feel that conforms to you at the time as something that you weren't kind of rebel against no not to me but I mean you know I <hes> I'm not the right guy to ask about that for the simple fact that like I I didn't go to high school. I dropped out. I dropped out of junior high in like ninth grade. You know so <hes> the minute I saw those clicked start was about outrun right when I just said I'm Outta here so you know so the whole thing of like Hollywood versus the valley or white privilege school versus urban urban blight decay school. I I don't know how I don't know what was going on with that stuff but <hes> but valley girl was was was special for this for a couple of different reasons. It was <hes> especially special out here in California because it's a California movie. I mean does that mean that you a that. When you watch movie it feels really familiar like it feels like your life of them on the people hanging out at Diners People Cruising Hollywood boulevard is still no? It's it's. It's not exactly my life because I guess you're right. I'm a couple years past that I mean in a way that like I mean well again but valley finally go wasn't about school so like okay for example Okay Fast Times Ridgemont high going to school out in California. I went to a black school and I went to a white school okay. The white school was exactly like it was exactly like fast times arrangement high you know so I definitely did respond to that now. When I was a kid in Okay maybe I see why Quinton dropped out you know the kids and carry that the High School Colin Carrie okay. I recognize that immediately okay that that's you know they're older than I am. I mean I would still be in <hes> like seventh sixth grade or seventh grade around around that time that's the high school kids but that was exactly what the the kids were but also there was another. There was another movie that was sort of. I considered it. My American graffiti a movie in the seventy s it came up called the pom Pom Girls Oh yeah yeah direct by Joseph Ruben and amongst other people and it had Robert Carradine and it's Kinda done like American graffiti the accept nostalgic it's actually seventies. It's Van Driving Hookah show wearing a shirt wearing seventies <hes> but it's it's a really good movie. It's terrific Robert Carey in his fantastic but I even remember thinking of watching it loving it at the time and say hey this is sort of like my American durfee the way my parents respond on to to those movies. I'm kind of responding to this one in the pom Pom Girls Robert carrying who would go on to star in revenge of the nerds he does get ketchup-covered. Matchup covered French fries shoved up his nose but when the head of the school accuses the class of stealing a fire truck he also gets to talk well kind of like Quentin Tarantino Sir I was not involved but I have reason to believe it was the work of left-handed speeds starting bikers riding down the coast looking for spills thrills and firetrucks now. I cannot be one hundred percent sure sir. The thing that's so special about valley girl is the music plays is exactly the K or q lineup up when that Kiro Q. New wave music just broke and it became the station for lot unless you're listening to the WHO black Sabbath at coalesce are the stones a K._o.. L. S. then you're listening to Cairo Q.. Because that was where the new ship was he will win the so and the valley and Valley girl had all those songs during the years that they the premier so it's not a look back. It's not like okay. Let's look back in one thousand nine hundred eighty three and let's come up with the perfect hair Q. Soundtrack that would be great for that time no oh they used to at that time those songs when you win saw valley girl those songs were still on the radio. K Rock is here to bring you the best new music care air on the station that was first to bring you durant depeche mode and wham continues its commitment to bring you new music at southern California old all queue the way in my movie the ninety three Kate Shea the boss US radio. Is this mysterious thing that has all throughout the film and kind of says. It's it's the sound of southern California. It's the sound of Los Angeles <hes> because it is in the psychiatrist and to such a degree that other stations wanted the case J. format so they would just listen to k. j. and do what they do and play the songs that they play seven hits in her own. Whereas my competition calls the seven deadly spins with Charlie tuna at six twelve from all of a sudden you can have Kate Shane Cincinnati could have Shane Austin you could have somewhere else national but that that didn't happen again until the eighties when the station out here care o q exploded and they exploded with all the new wave music I love that became so popular in said Los Angeles and it became so eighties early eighties Zeitgeist that also like h j other talk radio stations all over the nation started buying the K. Roku Format Clinton tries to give audiences audiences a sense of that zeitgeist embrace in once upon a time in Hollywood? Hey H J is the musical link of the movie who one thing on everyone stereo it can ex-husband's like DiCaprio's Dalton and never was like pits cliff booth to up-and-comers like Margot Robbie Sharon Tate and if you WANNA use your imagination in about it a little kid named Clinton who's being imprinted with the memories that fifty years later he's GonNa try to recreate on film famous or almost famous or never famous famous or eventually famous. They're all united by listening to the same songs and the same root beer and sunscreen commercials. This Clinton seems to be saying is what culture used is to be like all the way up through his own valuable generation. It was a time when everyone had Toni Basil's Oh Mickey you're so fine stuck in their heads before cellphones put each of us in our own bubble 2017. She don't forget about forgot well. We're not playing rage. This is Charlie letter. How how you feel about one of Quentin Tarantino's films whether or not you're also hoping to see Bruce? Lee Punch cliff booth in the knows something that makes them special is that they are one of the last thing that gets everyone to stop what they're doing. Go see the same movie and talk about it today. He's one of the last artists who creates mass culture alongside well. The vendors unders the back in the day valley girl didn't have to save the universe to earn its moment in time so I saw when it came out and I liked it. I have to say say though I willy like N- occasion it. It didn't hit me what Zeitgeist movie it was then <hes>. I don't think I'd quite realized the effect yet of the character music but also there was this really you don't really know that you're in a moment until the moment over and <hes> yeah well the Mo even wasn't over by the but ah yeah it was I it was still too close to the moment to actually realize what went into effect they did. Those songs weren't quite as a conic to me they would become. You've just heard men at work. We have more dedication to go tonight too billy from Dina she says you're a Fox Andrea deduct. She'll do anything to get you back to Julie. His Favorite Valley Girl Randy senses undying love and says is like but then also what I realized that the movie willy was onto something was there was a little dollar the dollar fifty movie theater that was in the South Bay <hes> called the marina three was in Redondo beach so all of a sudden. I'm noticing that valley early girl 'cause it's a dollar movie theater do what they're gonNa do all over town and they they on their way out of town. They stop at this theater and so they play their one week. Maybe two two weeks valley girl has been playing there for five weeks already and then I just kind of decide to see it again and so I go and see it again and the audience is full of young people. It's like Saturday or Sunday and like I said I'm twenty so I'm a young person and we're all laughing and I'm realizing oh they're holding onto valuable because valid girls doing really well and people are seeing like the second time at the marina three and they really love it and a lot of kids on dates. It's not a a group of girls a lot of groups of boys and that's when I realized Oh this movie really is talking to the subculture that is that that it's making the movie early for and it ended up playing there like nine weeks because it did good so the richest people kept going to change the other movie was playing the valley girl. It struck a nerve which makes me wonder is this what dating was like in nineteen eighty three <hes> well. There was a you know not that I was Mr date but I mean yeah but you know especially if they're say I young a young people movie I write like a fast times arrangement high or like a valley girl L. or beat street or anything like that that you might want to see that that would that would be your Saturday night. You go you go say that I have heard though that you have every line Lenah valley girl memorize. Oh I don't know don't have every I don't like it that much all right I like it. I like it for the piece of Pop Culture Real Estate that it has put Toni Basil. You hired her to be your choreographer for once upon a time in Hollywood. Oh okay yeah but I I don't associate Associated Valley girl. I associated with easy rider is associated with head associated with mortar sixty stuff. I Associated Killing Bruce Davidson Michael Bowen Times yes yes because he's terrific <hes> Jackie Daly. I was really in the valley girl E._G.. Daily would be in every movie I ever did and I would have worked with Deborah Foreman and call it a Nikkei's right now no but I'm a big Fan of the movie the Martha Coolidge wait a minute what we're going to go okay. Then bluff called daily who plays one of Julie's Julie's valley funds is like totally fantastic in the movie and who doesn't WanNa see Quinton make a movie with Nick Cage. What are we gonNA do of course in nineteen? eighty-three Quinton isn't making any movies Quentin. The kid does not become Clinton the filmmaker until our third episode road out to me. Hollywood shuffle was actually inspirational for like the way he did it and also the way it could be done. Refill your popcorn one last time and join us for the final episode of Quentin Tarantino's Feature Presentation Quentin Tarantino speech presentation is produced by the ringer written and hosted by me Amy Nicholson our executive producer is sean fantasy and our senior producer is Bobby Wagner the music by Evan Campbell and special

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Introducing: Broken Record - Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze

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Introducing: Broken Record - Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze

"It's been almost thirty five years since the Beastie boys released the all time classic licensed to ill, and while some of the records lyrics, antics, sound is dated as Porky's movies. The album is still exceptional for beastie boys fans licensed to ill as a glimpse into the lives of MCA ad-hoc Mike D and the first deejay and producer Rick Rubin. Their debut album is a pastiche of inside jokes in musical inspiration. Pull from the Classic Rock and hip hop records. They listen to an ricks college dorm room. Rick recently connected with Mike. D Rock Ends Spike Jones who directed the new beast documentary with spike play moderator they teleport back to the early eighties and talk about their lives leading up to the release of licensed ill. It's all here. Inspiration behind brass monkey, Rick's infamous bubble machine and Y DJ. Double are bailed on the BC's first big break, opening up from Madonna on her like a Virgin Tor and nineteen eighty five. This is broken record. Notes for the digital age. I'm Justin Richmond. Talk! It's been about twenty years since Rick and Adam Horovitz have talked, and like most zoom calls their reunion. It's off to a G- Lychee Star. Mike D Kicks things off. That him. Was Up sir. Is Good to see you. You look the same, yeah. No that's a lot that is an abomination. Mike you Great! Don't start at. Don't start L. Start. Rick crucible. See. It's been a long long time. The last time I can remember a speaking was at one of the Tabet and freedom. Shows! Good memory then I don't remember that, and that had to be but I mean just time wise putting a time stamp on it. That was at least twenty years ago. Is Unbelievable it's surreal and it makes no sense. I mean for my perspective. It makes no sense I'll say avid. I I don't know why it worked out that we've not hung out in that amount of time. I'm just so busy, you know. I can remember. There was a little window of time that we started spending a little bit of time together in Los. Angeles right when you came to Los Angeles after I was already there and and I can remember. We had lunch at Hugo's. Damn I don't remember anything all year on back in the Hugo's days Michael China Talk Pasta Alabama. Michael China Talk Right now. We out a handful of times, and I remember seeing you and I. Think some something happened that I don't know what happened. At the Party for the blood sugar sex magic album. At the milk, it was that album. That's what happened. Oh my God. I got daggers today with all cylinders. I. Read Reagan See, we can see we can see I'm in. I'm in a mood today. I Adam for your free with your daggers. I think you need like. A Bank of sound effects like Doug Siren. None and I'm just in a mood. Let's get all the dagger out. Let let's do. Let's wish the Shell Rick. What happens on your show? What is it? I wouldn't call it a show it's it's usually conversation and I talked to different artists. Tell me stories about what they do. It's not unlike what happens in a recording session. Before the music gets made just bullshitting. That's typically what it's like just kind of an especially if it's someone that I don't know. Learning who they are! When can I start with a question? which I know is, but I'm just curious I want to ask you find you. More often find out things that you don't know about people that you do not know what they're doing your show or are you find stuff about somebody you can do? No, it's doing your show more in an unexpected way than somebody who you don't know at all. Who's doing your show where you have no background? In both cases I learned a tremendous amount about the people I'm talking to. It's maybe more unusual with people that I know because I get to talk about things that we don't normally talk about like. I was thinking about even from the time that we knew each other back in the day. Stuff. We never talked about like I. wanted to ask you guys about high school. I don't know what your experience. A high school I was just curious like wow I was around. It was about the time you guys were just either just. Ending, high school or just recently ending high school. Like what was that like? We never talked about that well. It's funny to think actually as you say that because we spent so much time in your dorm room. I've never once pictured you in class. I had no idea I'd never even thought that. You actually like attended class I didn't. I didn't attend many right well and injured. Conversely on. We're in your dorm, Rick. It's because we were not going to school right, so it's like yeah, but if a student has a good point, we never ever talked about. We I never ever asked you about Nyu ever we switch for our perspective. We just thought. This is. This guy lives in dorm. He's going to college and we're in high school. Yeah, so. This this is cool like you're like. We thought going to be like e turned. You know you're like the cool like slightly older guy, and then at it also mistakenly I think we thought. Wow, we're going to be hanging out in this dorm. Which means we're going to beat like tons of girls? This is GonNa be great, and we never talked to anybody who was, but it was not like I. Mean for you. What was your? What was your school experience like on Sixty Third Street? well I? Was I went I was supposed to go to Brooklyn. Tech 'cause I wanted to go to stuyvesant but I didn't get in and so I went to Brooklyn. Tech And that was just too weird. That's a whole other story, but tell it tell that story. What was weird? About is no Brooklyn. Tech alike I wanted to go. Five is because my best friend Arthur went there and and I didn't get into the other school. You could go to technical school. In Brooklyn and it was massive, and they like metal detectors to get in, and it was just huge technical school in like quickly realized after like the third day like this is not for me I don't know what the fuck is fry. It was just so overwhelming. Looking back I wish I would actually stayed in. Learn something technical. Actually quit could help me, but so I just stopped going to school for while my dad. Got Me into the school McBurney that was in a private school of town. And I was there for a couple years, and then I stopped going probably right around the time I met you. And not that the two now the two things are related. I'm just saying. What was the experience like of the school? The kids a lot experience going going to school. Because I was also got into graffiti, 'cause we are into graffiti and like that was the fun part about getting to school is just like being on the train watching this, you know just seeing who is on there and all that stuff in school. The first school was was just overwhelming. It was. I can't even describe as huge with thousands of kids master school, and then McBurney was like a preppy school is a. Just seem felt really out of place there. I felt kind of dirty like my clothes dirty, but can you tell tell us the story? Adam why you never returned to McBurney. They had the school play was going to Oliver. And, so I audit. They had auditions and I sang for the audition. Consider yourself at home in never really sang out loud before and I was so bad that I just left. The schools never went back. But I'll say arriving. You'd be artful artful dodger articles Andrea. I got even now I. Now Inbetween. By vote I know, but it was singing. I can't say as you know I can't sing. Can, but it's just bad, yeah. It's not you're. Not Rapping Forte. It! Added, did you get into graffiti before before hip hop music, or were they simultaneous later later? Hip Hop later. No Rap Music I definitely okay, and do you remember the record stores that you guys hung out? And did you guys hang on record stores? All hung out rat cage. who was like the first record store where you would like spend time? The cage were like that was the first record store where I I felt comfortable talking to the person behind the Counter A. Go to Bleeker all the time they get. They get off the train coming home from school and go to believe Bob's. And I'd be terrified because Bob always there, he deal. Yell at you. Yell at me and he had that huge Doberman Pinscher. Yeah they were always mean to me. Booming to everybody always say random weird Jewish stuff to me. I was just like a little kid. I just wanted to find out about what. was new. It was cool and I didn't know and they were so mean, but then there was quite you'll remember going to nine nine record. That was where I hung out I. Love a love. Nine I, my memory of those days were that the whole schedule of the day was based around going to the club. Did you guys feel that way as well or no, Oh, yeah? Like that was that was really the the primary thing every day. was what club was going to be that night? If there was going to be a band, if not what Dj's to go to see and. Where to hang out. Well. That's why wreck. The wreckage register was was great because. It was the first record store that kids hung out at for me at least. The other concerns that he used to go to. Kids wouldn't really hang out bleeker BOB's. Maybe I didn't like it there and so wreckage was like a a meeting like a hang out place and later your dorm room was. Rick deadly going the needle photo. A little like would hang out with you and we go to your remember. Every day was just kind of like. Go to your dorm room and then figure out what we're doing that night. And we'll do that night. Always revolved arousal. WHAT CLUB WE'RE GOING TO! I remember always being around music the day we would. Make mix tapes and sometimes sometimes sit out on the front. The front of the dorm with boombox. Listen to music and it seemed like that's all that it was. That's all it was going. All that seemed important was music in and what we were going to eat and what we're. GonNa Listen To. And Mike was clearly focused on hooking up. Little. Did we know hours interested? I wasn't very good. In that arena. Yet, but but yeah, but I was interested. Where did the original Volkswagen emblem come from? L. Is from my friend Laura Chilton. It was auditor walled. Wait wait Ireland's it on her wall on that chain. If I don't remember. I I think she just had it on the wall. She took it off a car. And for some reason, I I had it, and then put it on a strain, and then you took it. That's what I love about being a teenager. How much stuff just sort of goes from one kid to the next the next I? Remember I feel like I. Feel like you came over, and it was like you gave it to me. In a glorious presentation yeah, I always like it my revisionist history. I feel like. Like. It's almost like I feel like I. Was Knighted by you. Guys gave me bestowed. It was bestowed upon. You isn't a soda on the, and then I could become my d. I'm GonNa dispute that because think about what have I ever given you? Feel like? I feel like I. Remember this happening I i. feel like I was there that yes, the? stowing. The bestowing. But you'll be like I. Don't know how it ended up being on the chain because I don't think it was on that chain of Somali. Like that chain was like sitting I. Don't remember that exactly, but I remember them once. I started wearing that it was kind of like been. Felt like felt like our I could be my team how your Superman Cape. Was Wow. When you first met these guys, what are you? Can you think of a time? Where or sometimes when you break? Oh, I get them I understand who they are like. I understand who your Kizer who Adam is or who Mike is like. What was your sense of that? I remember meeting. Adam I threw Dave Silken. And our member Davis cocaine was sort of in my mind. The glue like he was a kid who was just. A super, friendly and outgoing, which I don't think any of any of us were I thought we met you, and I met because of Nick Cooper could be remember member Nick Cooper, but I didn't remember. That's how we I I do. Rick Remember Remember Nick Cooper. Telling us about you being like. Yes, there's I. Meet them sweet. We'd put crooked plus out needed a DJ. Is You got to meet him? He's into like the stuff that you guys are into and he's. And he's got all the equipment and according to Nick Remember I asked You. He's got a bubble machine. That was his big wine troop. A see that it's to. Rick is confirming the bubble Michelle that I, I know. I had access to a bubble machine access. I never know. You're writing the book. You're like Rick didn't have no I said the bummer machine and you're like I. Don't think so, and then you call Rick and Rick's about a bubble machine housing. You both a crazy because there was definitely wasn't bubble machine. Why else would you WanNa meet someone actually? They have above bubble machine. Okay I'll go the funny. The funny thing is is that the bubble machine was something that just was at the dorm. It's like when I heard that there was a bubble machine there like Oh, wow, we got to have a party. We have a bubble machine now, so let's have a party and that was where the BOA machine story began. I am curious about like what your relationship with each of them was like I can remember spending the most time with Adam, and it seemed like our friendship had mostly to do with music. Because that's what we we just listened to music all the time as I recall and DJ music, and then I, think the other guys through the story of cookie puss after cookie puss was already out, and then wanting a DJ, and then I came to a couple of shows in DJ after the after the live set as I recall. Heart remember first impressions. I remember seeing Mike before. I met Mike at Negril one night and I remember someone saying, Oh that that's one of the guys in the Beastie boys and I remember thinking. It was just like It was just a weird. A had a weird impression, not good or bad just like. He's a kid feels like maybe my age, maybe little younger and he's in a band, and and I remember he was I think you I think you may have been pretty inebriated that night. Mike and I just remember thinking. Wow, this guy seems like a little like. Seemed like revved up, you know like revved up. Like tough, tough guy, Mike. You mean like he's just like bad boy. No, no, no, just like like. Enjoying himself like he was hitting it hard. He goes hard in the paint. He went hard in the. He was going hard in the paint, and it was impressive. Come on, my. Don't remember being created that night. which doesn't mean that. I wasn't but what I what I do I do. Remember two things one is. That was a really really important for like? You. Rick is like a part of us like is that was like where we really saw like hip hop came I. Talk about it in the book. Lower hip hop came downtown and recall sudden. There's a treacherous three, and then I think it was like next week was ever been Bata in Jazzy Jay if it was that night, whatever and it was like most exciting thing. Thing but so by the terms of compensating the. There's like a quarter. I was completely. It's funny. I look I think about I think back on those Negril nights and I think while I was like so intimidated I was so scared to be there, but I was looking every second of it I would. There was no like club night. Maybe that was more influential or exciting. But I bet I was compensating for being intimidated probably like because I was with like my group of. Friends I was probably actually like Oh. Yeah, I got this identity didn't have it at all. Ripple what did you know about the about Beastie Boys? At that point? What did you? What was your impression of them? Have you ever heard of them? I don't think I knew anything I. Think the first thing that I heard of the Beastie boys was cookie puss, which I loved, and I remember. I was in San. Francisco and I heard it at a. she was a writer and a empowers yeah. I think it might have been an powers. And I think I was state staying at her like lofty place and I think I heard there I don't know if she played it. I heard it on the radio in San Francisco when I was there, but I remember the connection of being at her house, and hearing it, and and I thought wow, that's really cool. That was really really into hip hop at the time and felt. Felt like it was the first punk rock expansion towards hip hop. That's what it felt like. It was as much a punk I would say was as much punk rock record as it was anything else compared to hip hop records, it was punk rock, but compared to other punk rock records. It was more hip hop and I remember thinking watch really cool, and and and had A. And I remember laughing at it and laughing at it with you know like laughing with it thinking. This is really funny. It's really good. I remember I remember the I remember Yao and his motorcycle jacket and his long raincoat, and at one point I felt like him and Nick Cooper. Kinda had a similar. RAINCOAT vibe. Array. RAINCOAT vibe. Yeah I. Don't remember how I met Nick Cooper. But I remember that to me. It felt like an anomaly. In both cases, the raincoat vibe was not something you saw. Kids in new. York wearing like it was a. it was a fashion statement to where A. Long Somewhat, Dressy raincoat! Yeah, yeah, the RINCO vibe played played strong when I first met YOK at at this bad brain show botany talk house, and he was the only other kid. My Age was there I was like wow, this kid's wearing a trenchcoat and his combat boots and is like hair spiked up like this kid's. Really, cool, yuck actually kept that raincoat thing for that trenchcoat for a long time. that. Live work. As say also remember Yolks, obsession with the bad brains like it felt like nothing else in the world existed other than the bad brains and. Kept, that going for a long time to yeah and I I. Remember as a as music fan seeing that sort of. Dedication into thinking. Wow, he's really going hard like he's going hard for this thing that he loves. You feel like you got the answers that you wanted. Yeah actually. I I'm always curious. What what? I mean when you're eighteen. It's kind of hard. How how would you describe somebody you meet is kind of hard because it's more valid. What common interests like being having music interests, but did you have a sense during like just not knowing these guys then how you would describe each of them. I never thought about it I. Did feel like I definitely felt that I felt like The the place that I grew up in and an and the people. I was around in where I grew up. Had A, big impact on what I what I saw what I knew and I felt like their life experience was very different than mine, and it was just interesting and in some ways. I thought it was a good thing. In some ways I thought it was a bad thing from from my perspective and what? What was good. What was it bad? You're talking about like a long island. Kid versus city kid kind of A. I would say like they had better access. Than I had because this pre internet now everyone could find out anything they want about anything. Where I was, it was hard to find out anything about anything I would spend a lot of time in the library doing research, and even and even that research wasn't sort of cultural of the moment research. It was just what I could learn about things I was interested in, and then spending a Lotta time record stores as my closest way of having any. Connection. Culture because where I lived there wasn't it didn't really exists although there was a club called. A couple of nightclubs and I did get to see. Like the specials played in my hometown, which was remarkable. On the downside I felt like maybe by living in the city. It might narrow the view of what was cool. Like I didn't know what was cool coming from where I came from, and the beauty of that was I could. I could see and hear everything. There was very little peer pressure about about that lived whereas I could see if you're in the city. There was stuff that was cool to like. Not Cool to like that could. Have a a limiting effect. I mean I guess yeah. I heard led Zeppelin Lane by other kids at school of because in. To your. I'd already decided like I was so set on making my identity about. Those kids weren't into. I couldn't hear led Zeppelin, but then when we were in your dorm room, all said you know you put on when the levee breaks we're like Whoa wasn't the best thing ever ACDC or you know what I would tell me a Mike. I tell me your memories of Dorm Room. first of all. It's the first college dorm I'd ever. Been in period two year in high school. I remember just being intimidated like going up to the desk and I guess it must have been like maybe Mr Rick Rick. Desk and like having to get the past whatever go up in the elevator. beat the visitor pass because we're visiting you. And then. I. I remember being kind of confused because you had a roommate, but then you think you had a roommate right I need you to kind of like. Explain this to us. I think you had a roommate when we first went there, but you had this huge gay in the in the dorm room with I, two Surin Vega. You know there's A. There's like the biggest of ever seen. Like somebody that you have and with the turntables, and like the drum machine and everything, it's a was the we loved it and were impressed. But I was very confused. I was like wait. How does richest like? You're listening to music really loud in your dorm room. which and I loved it. But Howard houses guy able to do this like not get kicked out of the dorm room and wears. His roommate was a lot of questions. Yes all all of that. Out of what we are memories of the Dorm Room. I, you know first of all I was looking for a place to be basically. Sort of in life, and literally like not going to school in needing somewhere to be. But also being around older kids cool when you're younger. You know intimidating, but you know Kinda. Cool! You're like you kind of think you're one of the. Older kids now. and. It was just it was just cool. Especially going to your dorm room, you had. Just the the records stuff like you know. Two turntables drum machine. Loved it I. Didn't you know I didn't have that stuff I? Don't have all his records so great I loved it. I mean Rinky talk about access, and yes, we like Rohit near. England we talked about in the book and the show whatever your w was a huge thing to asset. We would just hear music all around us or that. Go to rat cage. WanNa find out what's happening that night and somebody said Oh. This thing happening. We just go there because we had. This access is teenagers, but but a your dorm room. It was just really exciting. I remember. My. I was. Again like. Confused, but so impressed when you you would come you it. Felt like you would come if they delivered Ritchie or viewed, come back every week with like a crate records from the record pool. And you ever that we'd all go. We'd go through them and put like a everyone on to see what was good. What we liked what we didn't like whatever we listened to every twelve inch from that week that was. Exciting. Thing like I didn't have I had the money to get a single like a rap single every once in a while. But I certainly would never think never had the money to buy two copies of the same record. That just seems nuts. And to go to your place, you had two copies of all these singles that I loved. And had to turn. It was amazing. It was nice to see you too obviously in. I feel used an did get the. Machine as Little then also I think anatomy live talked about this like it was interesting, felt like near China's think back. I met you start working with us like you had especially like once. You started when he started producing. with us. Producing records. It was like you had this confidence. Rick that was like. All like every either any of us were like Rick Cua or record in. You know what I mean like. We're all whenever we're all the. It's seventeen eighteen years old, but it's like you had this conference like you knew how you wanted things. The sound looking back at it like I'm just so impressed odyssey with that like who it's gotta be pretty rare somebody like. Eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one years old knows holiday want like Whoa. What types of records? They WANNA make? It's Weird I. I definitely knew I had a clear vision of what I wanted to hear. Really as fan wasn't. It was more I just loved it. And I knew how certain things made me feel and I wanted more of the ones that made me feel good in less the ones that didn't make me feel as good and. It was a very pure. Same Way same way that you connected to it I just and I think maybe part of it might have been that I didn't have brothers or sisters. You guys both had siblings, and I think that changes it. It's like I spent most of my time until I started. Hanging out with you guys by myself, so it wasn't the only opinion. That I was around was my own. You know I didn't have an older brother playing music. I didn't. I didn't have. It, all sort of. Had, I had to find it and and see what resonated with me and it and it had very little to do with the people around me, because like in my high school, nobody liked punk rock I was the only person punk rock so I had no sense of community at all when I started listening to hip hop. At least there were a couple of kids in my high school who liked to? Well I'm going to change the subject for a sec. Because there is something that I've wanted to know, rick, yes, so spike on earth. You know this, but so we got the the. GIG to open for Madonna on tour and rick was the Beastie Boys Dj. Dj Double Wer and we played a couple of shows. And then he was gone. And and he said that his doctor said he had inner ear. Situation that he couldn't fly. And, so I thought that that answer couldn't fly. And so now I'm asking you rick Did you just not want to do it? Or did you really have a ear problem? Hundred percent true it. Both aunt both answers are flying with me. None of course hundred percent true I went to the clinic. News A. Ear Nose. And Throat Clinic on fourteen, I know I had never been there before. And I went there and May said. You have a terrible infection in ear. You gotTa take these drugs and you cannot fly. If you fly, you'll probably blue's. Hearing in that ear, so that was and we and I. It's funny because I don't remember us talking about it, but also. Maybe part of the reason we didn't talk about. It was because it was. The tour was already ongoing, wasn't it? It was like we were we. I feel like we did like no, you don't. You flew out like you started the tour bus in like Seattle and Portland or something? And then for some reason you defy back to New York, but we were still on tour and you're. You're supposed to beat us again. Like in Los Angeles or something and instead meet us. You're like you. You know you're you had? The ear. Infection Out Now, we're finding out was legitimate, but at the time we are like ear infections well I'll tell you everything. Everything was always legit. It's like I don't. I would love to. I loved being in the band. I loved doing the shows it was. It was completely thrilling I loved it. I feel in some ways. It's like the the universe. Has This incredible power to? Affect my year and make me stay in one place, and then it led to me focusing on my attention into production. Instead of being in a band, which could be like it could have been that could happen, and it just sort of worked out the way. Maybe it was supposed to I don't know it feels like. In retrospect looking back I would have never made that choice while I'll say I didn't like travelling. I loved. The experience of playing in the band was Super Fun. I thought. The shows were great I can remember. Remember US playing at Radio City and Just that how much the audience didn't like it and I just thought it was incredibly. Punk Rock and fun. I can remember Madison Square Garden and figuring it was. It was just like we're playing at Madison Square Garden. Can you believe this? We didn't even really we didn't have an album out. It was unbelievable. It was it was funny because we got to do? The crazy beastie boys show and lean into the craziness of. Of the sort of heel, persona, the bad guy persona, and in front of an audience, where it was completely inappropriate, which made it even funnier like it's. It's like if you're if you're If you do a punk rock show in front of a punk rock audience, there's this camaraderie there, and if you're doing a punk rock show in front of people who are not feeling it, it really gets punk rock. It's like it gets. It gets elevated to this other thing not for anybody, but US I mean I I found thrilling I I know. The audience hated it, but that was sort of part of the fun of it. Even more than hated it at a at an I think that's where it became thrilling to us. Was that like these twelve year old girls, and maybe more importantly, their parents were genuinely horrified they they were repulsed. Enter beeped right and to be fair were bunch of like little white kids yelling at them onstage like you should be. Offensive. And yeah, and for the Ricky. You obviously had a big that was that was another thing like along with introducing to to heavy metal, led Zeppelin Sabbath. AC DC. You will also like wrestling. Thing was never cool. That was super uncool to us. kids. It's still in Goodson. Cool to everybody. But you were totally you let this cab ury in that world and you immediately saw like this tune ity with the Madonna tour. That like. It was like obviously you. Guys. What do you mean you're just going to be? It's just like wrestling. Sanchez pretty weird to think about. Most people don't think about like. If you have a band going to open up for this somebody who was like a cultural icon who couldn't have been you couldn't a bigger. On the planet at that Moment Madonna the biggest star in the world. Most people just say like. How do you put a good show together and you? You saw it through this totally other winds. Like, no, it's obvious it's like wrestling with the other part of it was is no matter what we did. The audience was there to see Madonna and they weren't going to like what we did. Regardless right so to to really lean into that idea of will wear the weird, the the bad guys who where the enemies and to install and to overcome that. To play with all this bravado like you're here to see me and like so ridiculous so funny. Adam. Do you remember the stuff you said I remember you said some real. Most of you guys most prevented. The best and biggest line was I am the king of the paramount. Like whatever theater we are at. That's how Adam would open up this show. I am the king. Of. Madison Square, Garden. Adam. Do you see the humor in this now really? Now of course I do. Like I. Read the space like I didn't like it. None No, no, no, we we also. We also just did this show St- a bunch of times in the movie and It's fresh in here. It was amazing. It was hilarious. It's it's it's it's not a. it's not a wild idea, but it's it's. It is a great idea. You know they're not gonNA like us. They're certainly not going to love us. They might possibly be like I didn't like that. But if we can guarantee that, they remember us by saying I fucking hated that and I will hate this. An have this memory of hatred for a long long time. That's an interesting way to get your music through to somebody. And it worked it worked, and we I remember the time like being convinced like it was like the. We like news like the boy of I, yell, we're GONNA. Make a name for ourselves and we did. A Rick One thing I want to ask about just is a production on the first record. We talked about it a little bit in the show, but obviously we have so much, but that like as as a fan, there's some bands at take awhile to form, and then some bands. It just come out fully forum. And that record, and even actually the way. These, guys are described you at the competence. It sounds like you've kind of came out fully formed in some strange. Amazing way what was what was the process of of that first record accused remember that every time there was a good idea we would make a new song I can remember the I remember two parts remember the lyric writing, which would be basically every night that we went out to the clubs. I remember trading lines only with the hope of making the other member laugh. Like, I would always say stuff that I. would think would try to make Adam laugh if we were hanging out and if he laughed, I would write down. And just collecting lines, and we would we would all do it back and forth, and and collect up these mountains of of rhymes, not so much with a subject song in mind most of the time it was more just good lines. Then I can remember. Being in studio sometimes without him, sometimes myself just making tracks, because it's what I was always doing and just make tracks. And and just trying to make something interesting. I don't think I could separate it in my head, but I knew the beats for L. L. were different than the beats for the Beastie. Boys in the beats for the beastie. Boys were different than the Beasts Feren B. M. C.? and. It seemed clear to me, but I can't put a finger on what was different, but I knew as they were as we're making a psycho this one. This one feels like L L. Beat. And this one feels like this could be really good. Beastie boys record does does like gated snare drums. Can't say I can't. I can't put a finger on what it was. Do you remember some times record where it's like? Oh this is what like it sort of gave clarity to what the whole record is like a decision beat a lion. No I remember I was in electric lady working on cults Album Electric and I got a call from Mike and Mike said Hey, how come records not done yet? And you remember this rank? No, not at all. This is amazing. Because I think. This was like you guys were on tour. I assume I was must have been post ear infection. Albion on raising hell by that point I remember like a somewhat heated conversation where you were like. Dude. Say. Do but like the of Dude Right? Why is I mean we're on tour? Why is our album not done? And and I said you know it doesn't and I remember like it doesn't just happen like it doesn't It's not not happening because I don't want it to happen it it Each of these things arrives, win arrives. Do you know what I'm saying like? We didn't go into the studio every day. With the idea of okay. We're gonNA make something today. It was more like. Making beats in the dorm, listening to records coming up with what a what a track was going to be, which sometimes it'd be six weeks or two months between songs. You know took. It was a long period of time I. can't remember from the time that we made whatever the first song was for that record till we made the last song I'm guessing it was eighteen months could have been two years was felt like a long time and I'll see thing you guys talk about Michelle Mike and I'm talking about the show is going away on touring, coming back and finish the record and mixed. It and they were surprised that it was this. Thing where they thought they were making sort of more lo fi hung rap record talking about that. Was that something you always saw? You is a knew that that was the sound. Not at all I. in any case, there was no preconception. Something was supposed sound like it was just. Making it sound as good as it could sound for what it was, whatever it was like same true with l., L. or same is true with raising hell. It wasn't like there was no thought to it and. The gated snapping was like. Aw, it's interesting you bring it up because it was, it was like a moment in time, and I think it was really what was the. Art of noise was the was the thing that got everyone excited about this kind of drum sound, and that was probably like experimenting in that art of Noisy Way. That led to. That is my guess if you had if you had art of noise, twelve inch and man parish twelve inch. Which one would you put on? I both liked the both you can't put on both I know. Depends on it depends on. The scenario depends on the scene. You read a room. Going off, can you turn fucking roosters down in in the mix place? roosters are feeling. The roosters a in the paint today. God I want to ask Mike and Adam. Their memories of Chongqing also uh men. Massive Good Question I. Why things I remember I remember the we were with you. Rick and we're talking Burnett was like. Oh, you guys got to work at this. Place I I. Don't think he said. Chongqing's we. We named Chongqing. He's or you got always. Secrets called secret society a straight. He's like you gotTa. Work at the Studio Friends Gio. Secret Society. He was talking about that. Guests like the console or something that stuff that you have as a kid. I didn't really understand, but he was all excited about so we're like okay bet, and then we go there and it's just kind of like you know. We don't really know about studios, but it's just I. Kinda bummy. You know like it's not like nothing. There's nothing fancy about it. It seemed like. Other weekly we'd go there one week and the next like walls think they need. All around. Yeah, you remember. Let like yeah. I do I, remember. It was kind of a loft space that the guy built out. He was just kind of moving stuff around was weird. Place I remember when we graffitied. We graffiti the wall behind the console. At first like we, I kinda remember. We got yelled at, and then it became the thing of the studios at everybody came there and did graffiti while they. While they recorded. I remember the first time that we went there. PSYCHED WE'RE GONNA go according to. The young nieces recorded at a nice recording studio. And this place was like fucking dump. Yeah, it was fucking literally a dead fish in the fish tank, and it was dark. It was super dark. Everything was dark. As why why is it? Why are we going to the scary content house member? Walking up? It was like five flight walkup. It dirt dingy, dirty place now I remember the elevator because it was all graffitied and somebody wrote their name. It was all this graffiti and someone wrote Jose. Nina's in the top corner every time we got. The elevator, we thought that was the funniest name and it literally relaxed every time we were in that elevator because Nina says a funny last name, I feel like we laughed a lot at Chungking yeah, well an odd way. They're on the way out like it was just. Like I think. The key things about licensed Lee. was making it never felt like you're making an offer like it just felt like. He was kind of like that was just part of. Wake Up. Go to your dorm room. Listen to some records. Cozy soon. Burger than whatever clubs going on. There's an idea studio. It wasn't like how you know. The Code Adams is like you're making an album for this amount of time and actually is funny. I think back at. You talking about Nikon. You making that phone call I like what's up with the record. I kind of now I'm thinking back, I. Remember is we are on the raising hell tour and our number? Run be really excited on Russell getting me all excited like. You got coach. Take along with your album. Guys she'd be like run because he'd heard by that. You know he was so excited about. Hold it now. which is. It now is like one of those songs like we're talking about out of the club I, remember like we. I'm real. We went in there and just flayed like around like a bunch of different. Like scratching things in offer records and I, think they even put down the verses, and then I remember you in Russell kind like hearing it after we've already done some stuff and you specifically been really excited about love. Actually cited even we were where you're like. This this is it like this is? This is what you guys need to be making. That was mind blowing I loved it. Oh, you know quest. Love just told me story the other day that I wonder if you guys know this in Philly. When hold it now came out as a single. The version that was released to radio was the ACAPELLA which we call the Acapulco. And? So in Philly, people thought that the song didn't have a beat or any music or anything. It was just vocals. It was just it was just vocals and he thought. Wow, this is the craziest record ever heard. It's just this rhyming. And he said, and it was really well liked in Philly even though it was such a crazy. You know the first rap record not to have any music. And and it was hit, and then when the album came out, and it had the beat. Nobody liked it because they were used to Acapella version, which they thought was just like the greatest thing they ever heard. We were talking to him and he was saying so that it just reminded me a of. Words that we tried to. Into, like common. You know speak. We'd PICK RANDOM WORDS BE LIKE! Oh, no, this is! This is what people say now. I can't alignment I'm trying to I'm like I'm blanking on him so bad, but we. We picked like. A few different words or phrases, it would be sometimes it'd be phrased to like you'd. You'd hear someone say something at the club. That was just normal to them, and we would laugh breath monkey came from jazzy Jay, talking about what he liked to drink and like. Yeah, it's like what's funnier than brass monkey. Monkey is that was a crazy night? With Teela Rock. Tell me I don't I? Don't remember so you were producing a record for a rapper named Teela Rock. Yes. and. We were going to go to the studio with you. 'cause we just that's also what I like. When you're young you just you just go with your friend wherever they're going like. It's just funny to think about going with your friend or their job. Like no, you can't come to my job. I'm working. What are you doing? In so I didn't think about it. The place was in Queens or long island or somewhere allowing city. There was like really take a car. It was really far yeah, and mean skill comer there, and it was just nuts. It just seems so. There was like grown-ups that we didn't know I. Don t the rapport like a real rap scene? It was just weird and then jazzy Jay. Passed around the bottle brass, monkey mean skills number like. This is fucking delicious. Yeah. I didn't know that you guys. You guys actually drank it. Oh, yeah, the whole night was crazy. We can evade rate in two separate cars. We're like in long. Island. Where where are we in getting? White Castle anyways. It was a really nice night. Yeah I remember, I. Remember taking cars to White Castle too hard in Manhattan. It was hard to get white castle. Probably for the best, but what are we say, 'cause rope a dope like in late eighties rope I just remember one word, which actually should dope, and a dope is broken dope, and then we like. Oh, that's wrote. No did not laugh. We said. That A lot, but It did not last. Is So funny. Because it's Kinda Great. Nobody else was like Oh. That's wrong. Were you forgot? ROPE ROPE is great. wrote makes no sense. You gotTa Bring Back Rope. Rope is really funny, though it's it's explaining the joke, it's not that good feel like flavor had a lot of the. Flavors normal waves. Speaking had a lot of references that could work their way into songs. Of everyone we hung out with. Flavor was a gold. Mine of phrases as want you to know. The last time I saw flavor I was in my car in new. York stopped at a red light and he got in my car. And I was just like what you like getting in my car and its flavor and he's GonNa. What's up? Take me to like three six street. And so I drove him all right good to see you wild. Nuts. Did did you guys go to at all to the studio? When public enemy was recording now? I just remember her gold to their the radio show the spectrum city. Show in long, island and doing that and I remember just like listening with with you an honor our own. Listening to demo for the song public enemy number one like I I mean on repeat like I. Don't think there's A. Demo. Demo listen to that much. Maybe move single song that we listened to. So incessantly it was, that was so mind blowing Lee good. It was incredible I remember listening to it all the time I'm trying to think what other things that were like that. Where like? They really took over our lives for periods of time. Can you remember? Oh Eric Eric for president. Didn't say that school. My School Scooby Scooby School G. School so yes, sie lay a PS K.. All the people and nothing but squares remember like how many times listen to that. In your dorm room and everywhere else like yeah, when he especially that thing of like like school, these whole intro that like new. To School is school. What time is it? What was his DJ's name? Code Money? Code. Get you. Code Mon Mike owed. So good. Man Such records so funny. I, guess whatever we we are of a certain age. That's what we will talk about often like it is incredible. How many great rap records were coming out like nineteen, Eighty, eight, one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine, just mind blowing Lee good. Rap Records. Trying to remember which were the what were the other ones that really like moved the needle for us Sucker sees was everything. Right I am rhythm. See where the I mean. They were the archetypes or like you know I mean an J. J.. So about performing and how to sort of put a wrap show together. And how I think along with you how to put a rap record? Anything else that we had? That wasn't out like like with the public enemy tape. Demo I remember Biz. MARKIE was out by Roy. We heard that I. His marquee tool and Talkin about. DMC J., be really excited about it. You had a demo for a slick Rick Children's story rig. Off Kramer loved that right because that was another thing. I mean dotting the show. We must have listened a lot of the show. Again unquantifiable amounts of types. Do you remember the story of let me wear? Let me clear. My throat came from I. Have a vague memory, but I don't know if it's accurate. Not Tell me don't my memory. That on ll's demo tape that you found in the box of demo tapes that that came to the dorm before he started rhyming, he said. Let me clear my throat. and. I remember that we for whatever reason. It was the funniest thing we ever heard. It may I mean it was it wasn't. There was nothing funny about it, but somehow. The idea that that was. The thing said before the. Song starts I know it's so easy to take that out now. Do you know it's so? It's so easy, but back then you couldn't you just you didn't take stuff out, and just whatever he recorded was on there, yeah. Yeah was it was it was nothing, but for some reason I remember we latched onto is like. This is just the funniest thing we've ever heard. We just latched onto it and I can't remember how it ended up getting into the song. I'm sure you were like wait. Let you should say let you should scream that really angrily. Funny. It's so dumb, but again the the beauty. It's in such a different context to though on this on our song as opposed to his demo tape. Yeah, well, that's the beauty of the montage of hip hop. That's how. Re contextualising things that you find in the World Life Yeah Yeah any other memories Dan Syria. I feel like that was sort of the I that I remember. We went to the most so many I mean so much so many. All, right where we? Really. Is. In the first places, we talked to girls. I thought you were. You were just claiming junior high school status, so you're doing all kinds of things in the mix, but. DADS, they're saying like me just like hearing. You didn't like something that you would hear every every night like. A shut down or or new. Confusion you'd hear like every single night or In. Which Fox medium medium media media. My favorite top three favorite things have dance interior was. Being on the dance floor room. Second floor just in the corner by the stairs. We'd always be hanging out. The music would be playing. People would be dancing and there was some guy in the middle of the crowd. Be Like work that body. Body. At, it wasn't just like once. It was like every night. Memories of the Roxie I remember the rocks air things too I remember. Africa Bamba plane. Toni Basil Your Own Mickey. You're so fine at the roxy so like out there like white kid at the the. Most Steve Devoid Place. Ever, African Bomba were the most important hip hop deejays ever and he's playing. Toni Basil like you know there's nothing. That I thought of rat like music, thank I associated with Toni. Basil and I was just like. Wow, that's incredible. He could make Toni. Basil Mickey you're so fine work in. The Roxie was credit that and then. I just never been scared to go to the bathroom. Rossi. Roxy which is, it was just like dudes like Sellin Coke in getting high, and like Shit was scary. I just felt like I. Was GonNa get robbed in the bathroom? Then that I I remember because I went to Russia. When I was a kid, 'cause it was a roller skating place. And so I I don't know how to roller skate, but it's like you go and hang out at the roller skating place, and so then later few years later Roxie was a thing where we would go to the disco. And I remember when we were there. I don't know if first time where there, but then like fucking shots rang out, and someone had a gun and shooting people running as this is not the same thing. From when I was eleven twelve. Whatever its? Place. Put a bunch of teenage dudes in the same place. We're just GONNA have now. Why is that? It is the case, but why teenage do stupid? I don't know what to say. I'm thinking about the the Mickey reference. That bodies in that probably led that. There probably was a step in. Why the song, it's tricky, got made Arthur. Say World, destruction and for him. Because the same beep. Yeah, because world destruction is like the same beat. Yeah, I just I. Just remember it's tricky being like. Feeling there were certain vibes that you would feel the hip hop club that stood out. That were different than the others since I How do you incorporate that? Because that definitely feels good like we're in the club, this feels great. That's now part of the language that felt like okay. That's part of the language in hip hop. Be If you're in a band and somebody a band. Did a a Walser beat instead of a four four beat, and he'd say oh that's a new. Part of the vocabulary. You can write a song with a Wall Street. beat. I got I got tons of songs all speeds away wondering Rick. Want to say you were talking about how I don't even know how to explain people, or maybe it's not even worth trying to explain, but like we. We're talking about opening for, Madonna but that it's it's also very interesting. Obviously, we've. We changed a lot through the years, but it's it's. It's interesting to be because people know. I feel like relate to us or a lot of people know us just from like licensed instill Beastie Boys, and then there's a lot of people that grew up with us through a lot of stuff. Whatever but a Lotta people know us just like as in that. Incarnation licensed time, and I think it's interesting when you you're like such a big part of like when we are opening up from Madonna and like this whole idea like persona, but then people actually know you now from your persona now not from like. Like how you talk then. And I even know how to explain what I tried to explain to people how you talk in in sort of like when you're excited about. Like, pull wrestling and how you would do that. I don't even know how to capture it or it. Yeah, it's definitely a ramped of character. Inspired by Roddy, Piper would be one of the key Rick flair the the WHO would. who you'd WANNA see lose and who would often find a way to win through cheating but there were the funniest. They always like the bad guys in wrestling. The bad guys have the best lines so. They were the most charismatic and funniest characters, so put on that air as to do with Youth Michael. You don't give a fuck. Thank you for doing this great to see Adam. I'd miss you. I love you, and I look forward to continuing of bridging bridging the years that that we've missed logging to Rick Nice touch. You Beg your regular screen to see you bike pleasure. Miss you I miss you. See Letter. You guys I right? Thanks Mike Adam and spike for taking the time to catch up with. All our favorite beastie boy songs, plus the other songs mentioned in this episode, having been broken podcast dot com, and be sure to check out our youtube channel. We can find some great bonus material from past episodes. You can be described at youtubecom. Slash broken. Broken record is produced a telephone. Jason, Gambill me, Lebel Leah. Rose Martine Gonzales Pushkin Industries. Being music by. 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(Vintage) Remembering Allee Willis

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

1:05:28 hr | 8 months ago

(Vintage) Remembering Allee Willis

"Get ready to body fucking people back. Pretend time it rang I remember. Why don't we just gave them the song out here? We go. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Happy Happy Hour allee Willis's here songwriter. That stop pounding of that song and so many others grammy winner. I can't I can't believe it's taken us this long to get lily Tomlin our good friend. Our mutual friend has done this. I you are we have. We've had a lot of amazing happy. Our guest the the most fucking Fascinating Woman Alive these gentlemen. She a grammy winner for that one. Any number of earth earth wind and fire hits pointer sisters looking. I'll be there for you. The frame song by the rembrandts you are I right. Yeah I was just saying we've known each other years and years. Yeah Yeah and I'm doing prep on my fucking friend Vanessa and I was like Jesus Chr- what you did what you learn more and more. I know she's eight pages of of clear. Understand a highlight of my life one of the highlights of my life I got to go to Allie. Willis's Home Studio Studio to listen to the music for the color purple on Broadway as we were writing as they were writing it before the show became a huge Tony grammy-winning when he hit and you Saying you SEV- remarkably like a black man. I don't know how you say you're a black. I don't understand I was like who is that. Did you get your leisure like. That's me on that track. I was like you what that was great. That happens all Pecan now when people meet that. Oh my God I thought you were black. All right Outta thought you're right well partially correct by show on Sirius. Xm For for some reason. There's a seriously to this picture. Stephanie Mills when my show comes out system search experts Stephanie Mills. Black woman to Stephanie. More people totally and then also we've had people go to my Stephanie Miller Little Resistance Tour and they've been sitting next to people near like her voice is so fantastic and they're like what and they're like. They thought they were Stephanie. Stephanie Mills. I wrote for Stephanie Mills. By the way don't ask me. Don't ask me what I know. That's not the wiz. Did you enjoy me a WHIZ. He's on down the road. Let's do our own version of a claim to have your where your pussy hats. This is fantastic. Well well not really actually do have three pussy hats. Of course you do of the color I feel like we need like a five hour. Happy Hour for are you ready. And I can't believe we've only got into this now because you are I didn't want to say we met through mutual friends we lily Tomlin's are good mutual friend. You've done her her website. It's hard to okay. Well here's what you're described us because I'm like I don't know she's just my friend. Ellie Wills American songwriter artist set designer under multimedia artists writer collector director. You're okay nineteen ninety-five a nominated for an emmy for your number one hit. I'll be there for you. Lost the emmy due to the friend fucking sucks and try and sing the theme from Deep Space Nine. I can. That's bullshit. I'm calling fucking bull. Waiters Grazie the per year. Now all the have Wa only happens one day Ayubi either. The rain stops. They're mad because they I fall Straight talk. Hey who told me this. Who did the REMBRANDT's The rembrandts did it. Never go anywhere alley. Jesus lost your thing no one involved in it at all. Thought it would go anywhere and and it was instantaneous. It was never meant to be released as a right. They the night. The show came on the air. Not that anyone thought the show was going to be hitting. Did he know that was obviously going to be bullshit song. They only decided three weeks before to even have a song they thought. Well let's I mean anything we could have to the TRI and promote this. Yeah and you know if there were hit then you know that worked for that so yeah you know we put me Michael Like through the thing together yeah and then a DJ in Nashville made a set off the air the night of the first night. Baby certain cassettes on either later. Yeah and they played it back to back for forty five minutes straight so many people called in. Then that then Warner Brothers said okay so we have to make this a single and then the rembrandts were not working at that moment so they got the Gig right and it's like like no one thought this would not musician of any kind but many here that you're hit God we didn't think so but based on a relationship with because you have so many great close friends for so many years. was that anywhere from your experience of no it was basically you know. They sent me a the H. S. tapes. So we'll have a long as you hop into the three D.. Before the have there were there were the LA tracks and Beta bid. Phone Goose Ari go ahead. Amazing I forgot what I was saying. No no I know they just they sent me the pilot and I you know I save everything I write on because I'm way more interested in the process that it took to do something thing than I am in the final thing right so was thirty two single space pages every lyric possible about just people people who are dependent on each other who will be there no matter what. Yeah but yeah not based on real life experience because we live in Hollywood where everyone's a treacherous backstabbing pastor fantasy song about people Woodward if you did not have grammy's bigger friend. Yeah but it was a huge surprise and I only wrote it because I was trying to get out of my record deal. I never wanted to write songs. Yeah listen what pressure publishing. Listen fear focuses the mind alley. I guess so I always seven of you wouldn't be Django. unchained your fucking Tom the whole thing but no so I out a seventh episode and they said right this is close enough. Yeah did you see. Meet the millers the movie with Jennifer. Yes at the end favorite out take ever so there. You know the whole families in the you know the camper. They're playing songs and so they didn't tell her they put on put up. It is precisely yes no. I don't well for years wherever I went as soon. There's someone new I wrote it or if they recognize me. Whatever I right in my face like those yeah okay? Thank you all right. Relations constant debate. On how many claps there are. How many are I never even knew? There's only four but most people can't five you. We did find C. O.. Better better better. Reflect my work but yeah I mean. Isn't that amazing. In winning these amazing heads for earth wind and fire pointer sisters the power of television. Where you're like? Oh yeah the friends lady. I thought it would ruin my reputation. Question the Whitest Song I've ever had anything to do with either blackest person ever no fence. I mean really like a dive such such a compliment. I mean totally. I mean all my breaks have come from the black side of things. Yeah not all but most no I mean honestly that I don't know how the fuck I got invited to your home studio to listen to the color purple but it was fucking Jesus. This is going to be huge huge. That would have been maybe two thousand three and worm. Yeah Yeah we have so much to get to. I don't even know where to start because you're at your house that's a whole nother. Well as I told you I just made that for you today. You remember because we've been old friends the time in prison member. There's a lot of the hard rock stall chain gang. Okay so all right but how do we. How do we go back? How do we start with the earth wind and fire faulk? Okay because we just saying September so way wait people that came to my Prince Memorial Karaoke party that you came to yeah and then we all sang September with you. People still are like I can die now because I've Sung September head a prince and then remember the Karaoke. The lyrics were wrong. And she's like I wrote it wrong telling him though. Those aren't the right lyrics. Like no Ma'am I'm like. She's Ma'am fucking okay so alright. I boogie Woogie Wonderland I mean. I don't even know where to start. You'll have. Let's get into your songwriter brain in a minute but let's first of all forever. Yeah can you not get up and dance song up in. What stories about on about who the fuck cares? Well it's a wonder people come up to me all the time again all my God. That's the happiest song. Don't we need that now in this fucking Dystopia and trumpy however showed nightmare just wonderland where you fucking Boogie however it is about out a woman on the brink of suicide. Oh that's happy and it was racist. Christ alley must you've ruined everything it wasn't trump has an Ernie was inspired. Inspired by you remember there was a Diane Keaton movie called looking for Mr Good. Yes she goes to the disco every night right. Forget get about her dysfunctional life during the day and we wanted me I wrote with John Lennon. he wrote Oh my God saving the best for Save the best for last Vanessa. Well well yeah. Wow Yeah mcdonagh. He wrote Crazy for you anyway. But We'd both written for earth wind and fire and we said so. Let's that's right and earth wind fire songs there by. I just seen this movie. Everyone was using the word. Bogey you know in a song but we didn't want to use it in the traditional additionally fever boogie down every boogie nights at all boogie. boogie book Kenya. WanNa use it to me to dance so I had seen that movie the night before so we said let's write it about someone who has no sense of themselves whatsoever right but yet those out every night brings home a different different guy every night and loses herself basically more and more but when she goes to the disco she enters wonderland she enters this state of mind. Mind where she forgets about every right. So it's actually that versus very heavy and it's written in a in a much more now. You know I know nothing you know I write music. I play let's even fucking ice saying hang on a second one. Okay my head's just fucking explode you don't okay you don't read or write or play music but I hear every every note in my head. I don't know how to do anything I do. I sold almost thousand paintings before someone said to me has every time I would go to the art store. I would bitch that they don't have a certain color pink and finally this poor woman who had been waiting on me for ten years said you do know that you mix colors together to get other colors. I was like what no no nothing you know. I'd never seen I didn't know that about you and that's just say. How can we cut your brain open? Not Tonight yes future. Happy Hour right as long as you could freeze half of it and I could come back and see what call saying. We'll freeze half of your rain and Walt Disney's put it together. Who Lost after being sane? Grow Timothy Leery I yes this is things they write about you. Elliot's a one woman creative. Think tank most multi disciplinary artists and visionary thinker whose range of imagination. The Nation's productivity knows no bounds. Grammy Emmy Tony Webby Award. Winning songwriter performer. Visual Artists Multimedia stopped showing off director Collector Social Artists Party thrower thrower That that one being the most important well throw a talk of a party mail. I've been there but okay. So what. What Okay Detroit? Obviously lillies hometown. Yes that's like where you say you got your love of House Little White Lady Right Earth wind and well well a little pointer sisters. I wasn't a little white lady when I was growing up. Wait lady when you wrote these songs yes. The thing is growing up in Detroit in the years that motown was coming up right and you cannot believe what it was like living city. It was in your blood late night like lead water seeps into your blood people there Especially around my age but even like the young kids. Everyone has such a sense of living there that you descend from musical royalty so like so sadly what happened to Detroit. I know I have an an actress. I actually I used to. Tyler told me that whenever she has to cry for a movie she thinks Detroit except and he's like Oh. Here's Marvin regained Grad School. What would you know how incredible Detroit is right now? Though it is so on the upswing. It's crazy the people by no from Detroit Billy West my good friend Lily. Tomlin you like there is such a visceral love and connection connection to Detroit. I've never seen from other any other. I Know Fence Buffalo. I can give a fuck about you. I mean I love you and all but but really look at when I was growing up in Detroit. It was the fourth wealthiest city in the United States. Yeah it was absolutely a design capital. You know someone would say that we're from Manhattan Happening it's just like the whatever PODUNK so I think you know we just had such spirit about living there and I never lost it so it was like a personal stabbing. I know a lot of Detroit is feel this way when you would hear all the horrible things were saying the last few decades right So you know. I like basically changed my whole career because of it because I spent five years up until a month and a half ago working on one project that was literally to stop people from defaming Detroit Dam. You've done all these you premiered your passion project for your hometown. Detroit Detroit Institute of the Arts Marches Museum in the world. You wrote and produced Listen lockport home of the world famous locks. That's where I'm from. Listen to shit with me. Where locked near Buffalo? My point is either the you wrote and produced the d a love song of the city beating frittering five thousand musicians and centers all fucking small sort of about you I I yeah yeah I know I wish I could have been at these. You've had these. Oh my God I know you've had these like huge with marching bands with my king like I wish I could have been all of them. Well we have what we wrote this song. Just because I was sick of what people were saying about. Detroit wrote with One of my favorite collaborators named Andre Alexander who I do my live shows with and we went went back and recorded it at seventy seven zero. Sing alongs all over the city for a period of two and a half years so it literally we would go from from football fields into a Delicatessen from a you know a college into a laundromat. It was just anywhere and everywhere and people learned. Learned it on the spot. Plus almost every living motown singers contemporary rappers. It was just this big hodgepodge here and because I thought what can I. Do you know how to write songs. They know how to throw power. So I'm GONNA throw these little sing along parties and just get everyone everyone to sing right. And it was amazing. And then finally having this premier which I never knew because this was a self-financed project. Wow wow very few. My stuff isn't self-financed. Yeah which means I am broke a hundred percent. That's fantastic so I didn't know how I could throw oh the Party and then the DIA stepped up. And it is gorgeous fifth-largest museum in the world and they gave me half of the museum the whole bottom wow lower. Wow so it was incredible at bring my shit in and put it next to like a Picasso like I'm uncovering of Renoir. Fucking David Cassidy lunchbox fucking Shit. I got some kitsch than they let me do anything but I love what Lily Tomlin said long time friend fellow deterrent. The basic mentality is one of not giving up sort of a hang in there no matter how long it takes. Nevertheless she persisted. Ah She's found a place where she can regenerate which make it to her liking. You know what a great city Detroit was and how real ingredient wasn't sure it's it's going to come back but it's it's almost like you know that's part of your the NA. Yeah yes yes motown like soaked into your DNA and that's why you're black man okay. I need to pause from this happy hour. Best of because you know what it's it was from another time a younger time a younger me or you're listening to your getting laugh. Line stuff right. Let's fix that. I need to get my Alexader. Look exactly the way I looked when this first happened plex Durham everybody's raving about it. Right you pricing the TV commercials. I saw them and I was like that's got to be that can. Is that time lapse photography. No little. That's when he did the first time I put it on in the mirror. What's knowing myself a headache but my point is that's how fast it worked? I couldn't believe it all right wrinkles under eye bags I- crow's-feet you name it. Gone Asta Lumbago by the tennis courts over you'll have a new face. Asta Lumbago. What was not all he had to do is apply this powerful to my problem areas? I got a lot of problem areas. Does this come from personalities to within ten minutes I'm a whole new me on the outside. 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I I have no idea. pointer sisters neutron dance one of my favorites happy places written in rural written in under an hour. Our thought it was a piece of ship throwaway so it made me so happy it always it still makes me. I heard it on the radio as an old the and I went went. Oh my God L. Did I can I just say I'm I'm so excited about neutron dance. Can I just say that. Do you mind if I love that you got to pointers in. Yeah I certainly did. I know listen. I friends with jody. Hamilton Carol Burnett daughter and I remember when they sang steam. Heat on the Carol Burnett show. I fucking love the pointer sisters so much. I don't have to try and come on and now I know we're going to get blown up by North Korea. Well happy you know what you know about the whole communist government thing with me. Yeah that that we were GONNA sing now. This is my favorite one to say this the way. Yeah yeah take relative Baldwin bomb. Yeah stolen yeah. I was so excited to talk to say. Oh well it was worth writing just rated and thanks. Sal Oh Lord God I can't talk about. What's the neutron the answer? Bow Neutron dance okay it was not written for Beverly Hills cop which is what it was in and what one in grammy in A. Hello another grammy. For allee Willis okay written for a film called streets of fire and all they told me was that it was a handsome handsome guy a pretty girl and a black band where the only people to escape a nuclear Holocaust and they were on a bus ride so relevant now with Donald Trump. And so we have. We're supposed to be the bombs drop in La. Can we play that. Yeah well what. It's about it what it's basically about is if your life is not together some wish the button at any moment we could all go up in smoke yet. Your Shit get your fucking knew the neutron dance But that song was incredibly autobiographical because they felt when my life was falling apart. When was that how old happened? Nineteen Eighty or oh ever winced life was up fighting in nineteen eighty four. She's with the point of the eighties now but it was the first time in my since I started having hits which started like one thousand nine hundred seventy now. I ain't basic. Yeah you're graduated high school constant fuck you yourself allee Willis go ahead. I was already eighty at that point but the now it was the first time I had getting over one hundred songs cut a year which meant anti machine. Jesus really are still for normal people. Can you just take us into your songwriter brain. How fuck do you do that? Not Not only. How do you write a song honey? You're right that many hit songs right without knowing how to play that to me. I don't Yeah I've read that and I just think you know what once I know how to do something. I become very bored. Well almost instantly doesn't work for me to know any. Yeah never have okay. You're just a savant thon of kind of weird proportions okay. Can we talk second about the pet shop boys. What have I done to deserve this? Because that's you've written so many genres in so many I it's weird. This is like a soundtrack of our lives. What you've written? They didn't even know I was a songwriter. I was hired. I had just started painting and my publisher put one of my first paintings up in office right. Their manager was looking through United States publishing deal for them when they had their very first hit western and he saw the up on the wall and she said Oh well you should go over to. The artist has thinking once I get him in my house like he was a mid century. Modern Freak and my houses this is N. collection is a bit era and thinking. Well maybe she'll click with him and he will realize allies. She's a songwriter. And somehow pet shop. Yeah and then suddenly this just happens because your Hollywood and that is what happens. I got centaine in line to do a portrait for Tan phase. which would have made it? Own Stopover Your Immune Pouch just a fucking permanent. I'm and I have a little practice. ooh And one candidate for how it smelled the. What have I done? What am I what I what? And what about what about. Oh my God all right I I have a rabbi leg. It's Squirrel I've a thrill alley L. E.. Jesus honestly this word is a reuse your fucking genius. You're like a I I mean honestly I love this. What was this in the Washington Post Alley will? This is the most in two thousand fifteen ellie was the most interesting woman. You've never heard of true out. Oh my God ally Willis howls. She's coping with a visitor. He's never heard bubbles her alter ego and artist known for her sloppy brushstrokes. Nauseating Color Borderline offensiveness lily. Tomlin and dedicated collector elector once called her the greatest artist of our time or any other time. I've gone to your art. Shows and bubbles start the Willis homes and unofficially north of the Museum of Kitsch a pink palace stuffed with unopened Afro. Combs Love Boat Puzzles and space age. TV At the center is the grammy winning. Songwriter Internet Pioneer and party organizer Organizer Your House. Okay but as you wouldn't understand any of it but it's the greatest like what exactly what would what era uh-huh is it. Sixty seventy it's lunchbox. It was walking house was built in one thousand nine hundred thirty seven is the party house for MGM okay. So it's a classic Deco uh-huh Streamline Modern House the collection which I've been collecting sense sixties. Right is not mostly nineteen fifty sixty seventies these memorabilia. Never my childhood. I mean I grew up in. I was born in sixty one. But I mean it's all of the sixties and seventies show I mean just like Oh my God with David Cassidy just passing. Yeah Oh ooh Oh did you really. Yeah and I got His wife Sue Schiffren at the time WHO's a great songwriter? Wrote that Tina Turner Song semi lead the Bass realize. How does she know that commissioned me need to do a portrait of him a collage of him? I fortieth birthday. So I got to bestow that upon him Uh he had his fortieth birthday party at a bowling alley in Montrose rowing that okay. Let's just weird fact. That is very interesting act. Now you know what is our their own a whole there's actual cookies and they're gonna get it get it. Yeah I listen I was is a thought I was straight girl had Bobby Sherman and You Know Donny. Osmond and David Cassidy posters on my wall but Yeah David Cassidy just is saying. Hey I think I love you into my hairbrush more times than can be But yeah we were saying that period was incredible early early Seventies. Yeah yeah he's calling from the grave David Cassidy's calling on the heavenly hotline. Say Oh my God you have allee Willis the pay I think Willis. I'm one of my so we'll bring you know. Hey I think I love you that what love is made of though it worries me to say. I've never felt this way. Look at them. You know I was out music at that point. I there early notice that song but you know I still collect so so our. Let's talk. I'm reading down and my friends like near poster. Whatever it is Or a washing up. We'll go up to New York on Sorrento Sorrento street no of Detroit. On Sorrento straight you said Willis grew up in New York in Detroit on. I said this she said New York New York I I always said I meant the Newark. This was in the poster New York Times. I'm sorry of course you grew up in Detroit. We live in New York for them spitting crackers Outta my lips okay. The youngest list of three. Your mom Moreau's taught first grade made special meat balls called satellites that were pepper grains of rice Though she would put food coloring on them and that the boroughs all would cook gross. The Rice would pop out. So you have these little Green Little Yeah. I satellites one to visit my ninety four year old mom and she is under the impression that I want to eat all sorts of cream things that potentially liked in the seventies link Steffi. Would you like creamed tuna vision care to the Crotch beef host on that all makes me but yes right. I must've he. I mean who has even more cream chip refund. That was what I learned toast. Shop Ahmet classes eighth grade. That was the first thing. Yeah how'd that go that whole traditional housewife. I didn't trine training to like peanuts and making casseroles. Well that's what it wanted to do without unless you are a gay woman. I've just no I'm a by woman. Oh you are okay very by all right in my more weight. I'm confused because his prudence is your partner right. I've met prudence fantastic for many years but you you don't live together. It's a we're now. That's why I mean weird. I mean probably works better right word just so far there ways day for each other the longer new stadium. That's fantastic. How long has that been twenty-something? Wow Wow it's not a romantic doesn't know exactly how many okay Twenty Four Dad. Big Nate Nate when Reynolds scrap yard on called you cookie Duke Cookie Duke and like to dance with you. What's a cookie Duke? I've no idea what he called. Okay all around that in that Washington. What the fuck this is? Listen I did some deep state on you early molly. You know what's weird we have if one thing in common for Willis everything change in the summer of Nineteen Sixty four me to my dad ran for vice president. Nice and sixty hours but just before your senior year of high school Your mom fell ill when the hospital died a few days. Later of undiagnosed heart problem only only a few weeks after that. Big Nate fell for the mother of one of Ellie's friends. He basically stopped coming home moving in with her future stepmother after nate remarried he and his wife. Throughout most of the Willis's family pictures and possession including luding allee Willis believes her new stepmother desire to wipeout Sorrento street off the memory. Map is what inspired your Compulsive desire to document her. Life's where you think you got your like pack rat. I'm going to save all these things. Is that means something to me because you got taken away yet. Well first of all my dad was scrapped. So and I spent a lot of time in the scrap yard so the being around other people's People's stuff that fascinated me yeah instantly but I definitely believe because my pass was completely thrown round out by when stepmother came in that that is a lot to do with my collecting. But I'm like that with everything I mean. I'm like with my work work. Yeah I have hundreds of terabytes. I have one whole room in the houses that computer. Now I mean that's the other thing we haven't even covered yet because you're such a a songwriting genius. That's obviously your grammy. Hits all that stuff but you did really Thomas website. You were like a pioneer. The Internet early early like I mean early. Not Old people. Like I am about Tech Vanessa about Internet sheep's ear of Inter Urban. You Know Marquette you you consult all these giant corporations about back in the day yeah and my partner was mark. Cuban and I'd heard we met yes right and we could not get arrested. Had a concept for social network would have been one thousand nine hundred ninety two. Wow and we have to. They're laying that will never ever go anywhere. Allies social no nothing like that crappy friend Song wrote. Yeah no forget social network. They didn't understand what the Internet was. We went to every TV TV network. We went to every record company. We went everywhere and people just said it's a fad. How can you throw it your career? You know chasing after this stupid Internet thing right but no one could understand what a social network was in one thousand nine hundred eighty two that I kinda say of all take Libya Dystopia fucking shit show through the kids. Don't feel they have anything to live for like I honestly besides how fucking hilarious and brilliant. You're more I feel like this is so inspirational to just really go. Don't fucking give up on your dreams. Don't because people say you're crazy and that's not going to happen because you've you've been almost so far ahead of your time. People told me I'm ahead of my time at like five minutes or so because not good. It's good to be on time right and then you're not in your basement but my point is yeah but I just love the when you're when her family fell apart Williston retreat. Like you know whatever whatever it is your background is soaking in the motown music from Detroit in your family falling apart like you are a genius. That few few people don't really You know when I think like who knows who's listening right now. That's the next one. Oh I you know I think that thing is and this blessed thing of coming up in in Detroit that I love music so much. Despite the fact that I did not know how to do it it just made me feel good. So that's what I escaped into. When when things started falling apart just being in a car and having a radio you know yeah escaping families cake? So can I kinda save the most inspirational things for the kids listening that you are once again. Let's review a grammy. Tony Award winning Songwriter Willis has never learned to read notat or play music despite both music and lyrics for her expensive. Hit Catalog along so that's fucked up. I really the nicest way possible but okay so if I it's hard for me to work with like let's say a classically trained musician right because NATO one l. feel my thing is all vibe in beal but there's a lot of people you'll work has certain this conversation. I have a five. I went to juilliard really well. Fuck you okay. I mean I I do wish I guess that I knew how to play as if I work with someone. Let's say Like it's hard for me to work on my own musically anymore Because I'm not willing to just sit there and Plunkett out so I love working with someone who plays in the style oil that I absolutely love. Then it's inspiring to me but I'm definitely known for like taking picking up people's hands by the risks and literally release just jamming it down on keyboard to like get the rhythm. I work with my mom because when she tried to make me take piano lessons I had a metronome. Yes she would just literally we like. No no no. It's like this little mommy dearest kind of tears on the piano. But that's not my point. My point is thank you said. I had exactly three things from my childhood. I have a Ben Casey bobblehead the character from the really old now popular medical show in the sixties. Steve Mine has a little hole in his heart. Because I wanted to go out with someone that wouldn't go out with me so I stuck pin Seoul so that that was pre Liz. Yeah Okay I have. ooh That was nearby Period as you know that yeah the bite here Along Doctor Ben Casey. Fuck stick fucking kill you ED. I got to meet Ben. Casey nine thousand nine hundred ninety one. Why am in the Playboy Mansion New Year's Eve nine hundred ninety going nine hundred ninety? Do one every. It's like a literally it's midnight right. Everyone starts screaming happy new year and I turn around. There is doctor Ben. Casey standing next to me screaming lunatics him. The story about the doll. How did he feel about that? Little creeped out Wolman. When I said I stuck the pencil through the heart he was definitely backed away? Yeah well yeah. I don't feel like anyone doesn't have a weird story about the plot mansion Frank Stallone tried to pick me up right by the grotto. Oh yeah he's just like Sylvester on steroids. He's a nice guy always always nice guy. Yeah Yeah Okay. I'd love to play around me out me to Use that I have the stereos in my family's living room. I did the stylists and the domino from thirty three seventy eight a high. That's part of our thing with the attracts. Later we'll talk about the things. Well seventy eight AIDS research h REX about sixty years. Yeah Yeah Yeah Okay and your typewriter you bought. When you're thirteen? Eighteen of red and white royal. I had that I still had to use a no computers. P. Now writer did you tied to use whiteout on my little. Oh then pay how stakes when Whiteout came out remember. Oh correcting mistakes. Yeah tastic and you you remember those little white tape you would put in lateral right exactly. Yeah exactly that was in our guest room where I did my papers at the last minute. All right I I out in California. The parties began. You might see David Cassidy. And Paul Peewee peewee Herman Reubens Elvira they sounds like my party's. I've had this in people who have the same. I guess would sometime bs to bring a dish. potluck Lesley Ann. Warren longtime friend said and you expect to be humiliated. She's GonNa single you out and you're going to have to play some crazy game or sing a song and everything's going to be photographed. You expect it the people that are attracted to alley and the people who want to know her and get to know her are comfortable in alleys world. Yeah Yeah I do have friends though like you know. Toni Basil. Yeah Yeah. Hey Mickey. Hey Mickey so we were like inseparable. Then she would stop coming to the parties because she was so she said the play. Some fucking game. I'm Knockin Goddamn her so hey hey yeah Mickey. You're not so you know what he wrote. This chant through the lyrics a single the literally best dancer. Whoever was serious there wasn't really and choreographer locking topping? This is not someone who learned learned how to do it. Is someone who started doing down. There was a Something went viral. Last year seventy dancing like fifteen subtract. That's our NAM and all. That's next happy. Hour Toni. Basil let's do the Fazal. Baz has all Oregano whatever. Listen let Allie you. That is something you should. I know. Let's do this. Let's get on this. She does her. Let's Hook it this up. Hey Steffi Hey hey it's only two laps not the four clap. So we've learned in the France Song. Get it right doing five claps. You're fucked up. That's we learned are so in the story. They're talking about Prudence been you're twenty. Two years naturally met at a party thrown by pee. pewee Herman's people. I'm sorry I love I love. They call them peewee. Herman Sorry Paul Reubens Pee Wee Herman I got I got Tino. Do you know Elvira told me the greatest story ever Herman who she hurts her other best friend absolutely said she says that's that's how I met her. No it was I was working with James Brown. Just throw another name and I did he out every minute and then I I invited like all my close friends over to literally sit there the entire day and watch every single minute that we were working together. Yeah fantastic with the first reality show produced. Oh Tara Arou- literally you're the OSBOURNES priore three way pre nine thousand nine hundred ninety eight. I started filming myself like daily but no so I walked into my kitchen and I had heard about Paul peewee. I walked into my kitchen. He was stirring pot of Chili so she brought him over the see the James Brown thing right right so I was friends with. Yeah No. She's done to happy hour. Of course. No Pee Wee's been do party here with her as well so it was the same thing. It was like an acid trip. We were like. Is that a Vira. PEEWEE MR grant and also meet head. Yeah so you have great comedians. I do I do okay but anyway my favorite so Elvira Jamie this I people yes. Thank you I'll vibrant. Got Her got her therapist through peewee. Which I'm just GonNa say right away? I'm going to suspect if you get a therapist. Recommendation accomodation from peewee. Herman you probably Zurita get but she anyway says she was talking to this woman you know she's been divorced things and she was going through some very personal. Things isn't talking to therapist and the therapist was sort of giggling. And she's like usually what and then peewee popped up from behind the couch one uh-huh and I was like. Wow that seems really Unethical illegal maybe. It's maybe well-deserved something but that's yeah. I was like yeah. Okay so these best of happy hour's killing me. 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That's exactly Donald Trump fucking Louis Louis up in a cracker is fantastic and if you cannot not enjoy things like crafter. That's right now and go fuck NASA cracker that no no. You can't enjoy it in this thing can. Can you tell me about Jennifer Hudson. Because she I love her and she started on the color purple. That you wrote Broadway. Yeah Jennifer Hudson and Jennifer Holliday. Yeah yeah but yet but Jennifer Hudson in the latest version. Which is the version that won the grammy and Tony which is the exact same version as when we originally opened on Broadway but a different director and the second director took everything out? That wasn't musically dialogue dialogue. No sets no costumes. Know anything and it's it was a hit the first time it was out but it wasn't I it right this time out because everything was stripped away so all you had were the actors. The music lyrics eh exploded so she's amazing she was great. She brought a lot of audience in man and there were Three actresses actually went from her to Heather Headley. Oh my God oh my God. I never went so crazy for anyone in. Yeah Life Well and then to Jennifer Holliday but Can I just say can we just take a moment but to sing and I am telling you I'm not now you wrote for her and you. She had one other hit but not of the size that I'm telling you I'm not going but I wrote the yeah but Saying yes so we've been friends for. Yeah thirty something I bet but Hodson. I didn't know before and you're GonNa love me. Yeah you are you. Have you seen Hudson. And how insane this together. Yeah no on Youtube they battling. It's DOC's the why other people no one separate still has more or no the limit without going to church the scream and shout out Ask you look like now. Yeah you can't tell me into that footage of Stephanie Cinemas. Now and I'm going to send it to send Lisera the Pat Ben. Atar had to watch a video of me singing. I need a lover with my radio station banned from Rochester New York in nineteen eighty seven. And I the I think there's a screen shot of face just like So I don't know she doesn't need to be happy store. Okay I got to go okay. You know what Vanessa we have to start doing blow and we have to start to Allie Willis's shows 'cause they start Ed night. Yes but you have a love and lot 'cause Hanukkah Christmas shopping and seeing incoming extravaganza coming up at Vitelle owes where what's his his name's wife was shot in studio city. That's not laughing. Robert Blake. Well okay you know that I do auctions throughout my show now we are auctioning off Bradtha game. That's in such poor taste but you shows the funniest shit featuring sing along stories. Stories Games theme food early holiday shopping from here you know. The pilot of the Allee Willis Museum of Kitsch. It's fucking Shit night normal song. Why how do I Miss Miss? You did a live show called body yes baby. Excuse me and Allie Wilson Super Super Ball Bounce back review. Yes that was after a horrible day it took me thirty seven years in nineteen seventy four. I want like wanted to be a singer right. I was very young and and so I had now. I went on tour at the fourth performance. I was so terrified. onstage I jumped off to stay and I walked out of the door and I thought I'll take a year and I'll get myself together there and it took me thirty seven year. All right you know what. Listen on your own time and since two thousand eleven I made a big deal about this being my big comeback show. You did it at like you know some theater and it was the biggest disaster ever been involved and there were five hundred technical Nicole cusack and not one work one works so the Super Bowl bound. SPOCK was the getting off my right. It's it's described described as a one woman show with twenty five people in it. That was that one now. Now it's with one other person because it's like why am I singing the first of all. Why am icing the songs everyone knows my song so we do them all sing along? Its and then why not done reporter I just you. I re- return to live performing coming after decades. Long absence. Twenty ten broke the ice but going back to Your College University Wisconsin to talk to conduct the world's schools hundred fifty fifty piece Marching Panther Medley of your hits at Halftime before eighty two thousand fans. Spot can I say one thing. I don't know how to read music. I covered ed marching band. Arrangements are different than the records. Listen I've watched it mile mutter. USC I've watched fucking what's her name from fleetwood MAC Stevie Nicks. I've seen her sing. Try to sing Tusk with the USC out of pocket. So I understand that it's not hard. It's not when I graduated there. Were these stadium held twelve thousand people. Not that that's easy but I thought okay how you know. How hard can expe- you know? It's it's a little stadium and I'm going to go and I walk in. There's eighty two thousand and I can't read music so oh okay say some things other brag about my friend. In early two Willis had seven hits featuring the earth wind and fire theme musical hot feet making her the first woman in the only fifth if person ever to have written music for two shows opening on Broadway in the same season along with color purple okay A- as reported by the new now I hate theater right. You know that I'd never ever saw anything before writing. Sure I did. You know musicals the wise. Why are these people singing? You easily record complete orchestrations and very low tech instruments like an old manual egg beater. Oh yeah that's how we wrote the color purple unlike egg beater and your bottles you know smashing pots and pans. is she the most fascinating person you've ever met. I think I think she assertively is very Brian using unique instrument. That's fantastic so let's you're also an internationally known visual artist Paintings motorized sculptures furniture widely collected. I two thousand pieces of Art Willis were done in tandem with her fearless. alter-ego bubbles the artist. Yes yes that's lily. Lily and Rupaul. Are the two foremost. Rupaul was in architectural digest like the month before last and they said said like who's your favorite artists and he actually said bubbles the artist so you designed a will lily Tomlin dot com a non linear journey through Tomlin's life characters actors whatever search for signs for intelligence before and I think there was one or two other meanings it had websites I mean. This was nineties early. And and Vanessa the starting in the nineties Wilson Willis consulted for Intel Microsoft. AOL and Disney. I because I'm not old old ladies are as technologically impaired as I am. You've give some sort of your brain. That does that right you know. I don't even know how to this day. Like put a program I have doing. I understand that at such a deep level that I was consulting for all of these journalists to understand where Willis's going you have to open. Open your mind to a degree than Venice. That's frankly a little scary and spectacularly fun it is true most of us don't have which is why we're going in a cut your brain open on a future happy not anytime soon. Whatever love have you ever worked brought me and abby? I would love to who now Rogers you've worked. Can we talk about with everybody. Bob Dylan James Brown Herbie Hancock. I would do you okay. Kirby can I tell you a quick Herbie tell us any fucking story Oh Patti Labelle is actually who does. Bonnie Raitt was the first person ever to do one of my songs bodies odd. And that's a whole separate story but Patti labelle heard some demos of mine. I couldn't afford to really put anything down on tape. But one of my friends was ended up recording in a studio right next to where she was she hears thongs. She invites me to come up San Francisco where she's recording and so so I can put some of these songs down on tape and then she became the first artist to regularly. My Stop Right but I get up there. This would have been nineteen seventy eight. She says to me I have a friend and WHO's also up here? He's recording studio. B He needs lyrics. Can you go right with them. And I thought now I'm finally I I kidding this covered. I'm not going to write with the friend like staying with Patty so For three days I avoiding going near this Studio so one day I walk out into. I'm walking in the hall and the door to that studio open. This guy walks out. Oh Shit Him I doc. Right into the bathroom. So I'm sitting on the toilet because it has to go away and the door opens I hear clunk clunk clunk and all of a sudden it'd be two male feet underneath the stall so he's maybe like a foot and a half away from me and he says you know. Patty says you really great. You know come into studio B sex figure. Okay I gotta go in. So I'm in there. I don't know who the fuck is. I don't know anything do I don't know I don't know who I'm sorry and so we started writing immediately. They started putting tracks on song sitting across from him like three feet away and going who it is this guy but he wants to be the ride. I'm GonNa Make Patty happy. I'm GonNa do this and about an hour and a half in. I really really looked at him and I went. Oh my God. It's Herbie Hancock and so I ended up writing half of the like third of of the album and he needed leyritz because he had a he was the very first person ever use a VO corder. which was there early synthesizer? You would kind of Sam into a tube and play yeah So you could actually sing in tune. So that's what we were writing for. Wow she never sat on her behalf. So Grammy for Best Soundtrack Beverly Hills Cop. I mean I was the pad that was Patty Song Too. Well that was neutron dance and Patti labelle song called stirred up right. Yep Yep Yep Yep but I I love that you've been called one of the most dangerous subversives living in the US by Russia by a Russian newspaper. Yeah this brings us all magically. I hair call allee Willis is going to stay back. America became congenial. Wasn't just it was. The official property of of the communist government was broadcast and they missed translated. Neutron dance is neutron bomb. Oh and said that I poison the minds of of youth by preaching the inevitability of nuclear all from neutron dance and then I was singled out with Prince. I and they said we were the two most dangerous people in rock and roll and he got it for Purple Rain. Yeah which they said was synonymous with nuclear fallout. I I can't love both of those facts better. It's one of my favorite things that ever series. I for kitchen robber. Can you imagine race. Okay something like that. This is just fantastic. Okay go to alleyways DOT COM. Yes and if you're in Los Angeles yes tomorrow night Thursday Friday and Saturday night November thirtieth through December second. I'm at upstairs at tallows and they're like party performances performances parties as a perfect. If you can't make that one there upcoming ones and there is just upcoming brilliance until we cut her crackers on the future happy. Are we love you. I love you and I cannot thank you for having well. Listen you know what. It's always September when we're here at and just end. Can I say body on before we yes abso does that even mean I love you Ellie. What was so much so body are you? I'll tell you the story next time. Next time I love you happy. Happy Happy Happy. Happy our yeah the.

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370. How to Fail Like a Pro

Freakonomics

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370. How to Fail Like a Pro

"Sir. Previous episodes of this. How to be creative series? We've talked to artists scientists inventors and others about their creative process about having good ideas. And even more important how to execute. Those ideas today will hear about a part of the creative process that everyone can relate to even if you don't think of yourself as a quote, creative person. This is something we all do probably more than we'd like to admit, it's something that almost no one enjoys, but it is an inevitable and absolutely essential component of any success. No. I'm not going to say rate here what it is gonna let you figure that out. Don't worry won't take long. Let's start back in the late nineteen eighty s a young physicist name, Saul Pearl mutter at the university of California Berkeley was looking around for a good research project. And at that time, I was lucky enough to come across the possibility that we could go back and make a measurement that. People had wanted to do ever since the times of Einstein and Hubble which was the notion of how much the universe has been slowing down in its expansion over its lifetime ever since Stein. Theorized it and Edwin Hubble observed it everyone knew the universe was expanding. But another thing everyone knew was all the matter in the universe. All the galaxies nebula stars and planets, and moons and comets and asteroids all the stuff in the universe has gravitational attraction. So physicists assume that eventually that gravitational attraction would slow down the expansion of the universe for physicist? Understanding this dynamic was self an attraction if you could measure how much it was lowing. It would tell you a couple really amazing things. Like first of all you could find out is it slowing enough. So someday, it could come to a halt and then collapse, then this was just before the Milan. So we thought we could walk around with signs saying this coming to an end. But if we found out that it wasn't then we would have shown that the interest will last forever. And also we would have shown that we live in an infant universe. It just seemed like whatever, you whatever we found would just be a great story. And we'd love to know the answer. I have to say, I think the latter headline is much more exciting personally, not not just because of Infinity and because long lasting, but it's optimistic. Yes. Yeah. No. I think that's right. I think you you start getting personally invested in our university. Or even though we're talking about billions of years from now we would like to go on. So you can see why be valuable to measure the rate of the universe's expansion, but conducting the sort of measurement even for an astrophysicist is it's hard. Saul promoter had an idea it involved measuring the light coming off of supernova, but they had to be a particular kind of supernova and had to be very far away. We needed to find these these very distant ones because we want to look way back in history. And the further away you look in astronomy, the further back in time, you're getting to see because it's taking by that time to travel to you from the very very distant locations, we need to look some, you know, three four five billion years back in time for us to be able to see the slowing effects that we thought we were trying to track given the specificity what they needed and the overall degree of difficulty Pearl. Mother knew the project would take some time. We wrote the original proposals saying that we did not expect to be able to find the thirty some odd supernova that we would need to make this measurement in anything less than three years. And we thought this is gonna be a long three or project Pearl Monir and his team built a. Tool for this project, a new kind of high resolution wide field digital camera that could be attached to the big telescopes. You find in observatories now all they had to do was get some time on one of those big observatory telescopes telescope time on these biggest house in the world is really precious one observatory in Australia was open to a deal, and we traded the use of that camera for twelve and a half nights of telescope time. And so you doing everything you can to try to to find the time that you'll need make the measurements. You want in those twelve and a half nights? We got a two and a half nights of good weather two and a half nights of useful telescope time over three years. Remember they needed to find thirty some odd supernova to make their measurements. So how many did they find at the end of three years? We had not yet found a single supernova. So picture that you started with a quest creative scientific idea drawing on all the knowledge you've amassed over time and all the knowledge mass by earlier generations, you formulate a plan of attack you rate, the grant proposals. You get the grant you invent a special tool to facilitate your plan and use that tool as leverage to gain access to an even more important tool. You've done everything possible you've done everything right, which no what you still failed at the end of three years. We had not yet found a single supernova the failure of Pearl. Unders team was compounded. By the fact, that there was another team of physicists out there working on the same problem using the same technique, which meant that we were going to the same telescopes and using the same instruments. And so we pass each. In the airports. Going back and forth. The rivalry was not all that friendly. It was highly secretive between each other in general. I'd say the competition with each other was a big deal. But it's nothing like the competition with the ways in which the universe is trying to give you a hard time a hard time, meaning instruments breaking the night sky being cloudy. It was so hard to get these whole sequence of operations to work in a given semester that had to all run like clockwork. And if anything went wrong, the whole thing would fall apart the overall challenge was so difficult the chance of failure so strong that promoters team and the rival team led by the Astro physicist. Brian Schmidt wouldn't fact help each other out. So were several cases where are sequences about the fall apart and the other team would help. So one time we we took some observations for that team and somebody there was one time where they the team traded a night with us telescopes that we could keep our our time sequence working. Years of effort years of difficulty and uncertainty years of failure. But in the end, a breakthrough Pearl mutters team found the supernova they were looking for they were able to get enough observations to take their measurements. And those measurements led them to a surprising result. The expansion of the universe was not slowing down. In fact, it was speeding up soul. Pearl Motors team wrote up its findings and in two thousand eleven was awarded the Nobel prize in physics, which they shared by the way with the other team the lesson for pro mutter in all this one thing. That's really interesting that that it's important. I think for people to hear it sometimes is that. A really tough challenging problem his worth spending a lot of time one. And that you can be learning a lot while you're trying to get there. In other words failure is an inevitable component of success. So in order to bring your creative project too, happy place better learn to handle failure. Well, even better is Pearl. Under suggests handle it productively after all failure provides data. This doesn't work that didn't work that didn't work. Great. Now, you can cross all those off the list. So what does work? Today on freakonomics radio how to handle failure. Even when you feel like this. I am person. For whom being creative is terrifying. You can just confront failure head on at beginning end each day with the litany of things that I consider failures and shortcomings or take solace in the notion that occasionally this happens why on your back defeated you turn your head a slightly different direction. And then you see the tiny Ray of light that represents the path ahead. From Stitcher and productions this is freakonomics radio the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything. Here's your host, Stephen Duffner. This is not the first time we've discussed failure on this program episode number one sixty nine two thousand fourteen was called the failure is your friend episode number forty two back in two thousand eleven is called the upside of quitting. And it look at failures a signal that might be time to just move on. But that calculus is very very tricky. What if you quit too soon? What if all your failures are unavoidable desert, you need to trick through in order to make it to the promised land. In today's show. We look at the relationship between failure and creativity. The number one thing in my view is that people who don't understand creativity. We're looking at it from the outside. Don't really appreciate how much you have to fail. It's dean Simonsen, a university of California psychologist who spent decades studying creative genius. How many revisions this has to go through how many masterpieces you put out there, and nobody even buys a copy? And they'll maybe your mom does whatever. But the failure rate is just horrendous even for creative geniuses which genius assignment and pick as the most successful hitmaker of all time. That's mozart. And he's about sixty to seventy percent success rate. Well, I mean, turn it upside down, and that's a thirty forty percent failure rate. On the other hand, consider Toni basil or Nina or the man who. Yes, exactly twenty basil. Brought the world this song. Lina gave us this. How could you forget this? The Bahaman Nina, Toni, basil some the biggest one hit wonders in modern history, which puts their failure rate's a lot higher than Mozart's. But what happens when you do succeed success can raise expectations to a level. That's crippling the novelist. Jennifer Egan had been writing for a couple of decades when she had a breakout hit with a visit from the goon squad, which produced among other things a Pulitzer prize and the book after that, I sort of finally got into my new book, and at first I was actually having a great time with it. I was really going. Well, I felt and I I was excited, and then things started to feel rockier, and I really started to have serious doubts about whether I could actually pull it off at all. And then I have to say I kind of flipped out I plunged into a state of despair over my work. And I I really thought maybe my career was over that. Maybe I was kind of ruined by all of this was the problem expectation, then was at the barrier. I think the problem was that I actually was struggling with my book because every book is a struggle, especially if you're pushing yourself, and at a certain point, I started thinking about how I would be perceived if the book sucked, and that's never a good. It's never good to be looking at yourself from the outside in it's very difficult to engage creatively. When when you know mean and horrible commentary is flowing through one's mind in retrospect, I thought I was really an abusive boss. I was a boss who was telling her employees, namely me that I was worthless. And it's really hard to work in those conditions enormously. Self critical beginning end each day with the litany of things that I consider failures and shortcomings. Nico Mueller is a composer the young. Youngest ever to get a commission from the Metropolitan Opera back in the day. It was a combination of self flagellation and complete emotional neutrality. So it was like, I I hate it. But I didn't care. I didn't feel anything like I made this huge opera. And I thought it was really good. But literally the sense of achievement was akin to like a successful morning of errands. I went to the dry cleaner and dog food that began to change when newly started on new medication. I had a really dark like mental health journey involving the wrong medication, which I assumed wasn't having a bearing on my on my artistic output, which was but the big change in the last three years is that I'm finally able to see some pieces as. The end of the sentence of that conversation. So it's not could do better next time. It's not I can't believe I didn't do better this last time. And the difference is is insane to have written to written pieces now where I'm not in in a state of constant self-flagellation. Then I think the first piece I wrote in my new and improved version was this mass called spiral mass. So I can hear it and enjoy it and think and think that that was better than three minutes of silence. Two fairly obvious fact that outsiders often overlook when they think about a creative lifestyle, and how cool it must be in most cases, you are both creator in critic boss and employee since many people who have a boss do not like their boss, it might seem incredibly attractive to be your own. But do you really wanna be your own boss? Do you have the discipline to keep your projects on track to have the temperament to drive yourself? Do you have the requisite paranoia? I am person for whom being creative is terrifying. It's John Hodgman. He's done a lot of creative work over the years. Most of it somewhere on humor spectrum. It is the most rewarding thing that I can do. But it is a constant struggle with a very clear feeling that I am out of gas every day every day. And and that I will not be able to support myself for my family because I have now finally run out of ideas for sure this time. I mean it. I started writing jokes for the internet morphed into writing humor for books morphed into doing TV on the daily show with Jon Stewart, morphed into doing some ads for Apple computer that gave me some acting opportunities and all of these I just sort of jumped from job to job, very happily. Very luckily in no small part because it allowed everything to feel a little bit like a hobby, and it no point was I ever putting all of my eggs say into writing books because my fear was if I run out of gas on that then I'm done if I lose the ability to write a book, which sounds irrational. But it is a true fear that I have in fact today, I haven't then I can always fall back on the podcast or I can always fall back on going out and touring my imitation stand up comedy or I can always try to get more work as an actor. It's not even a fear. It is a certainty that I'm done that. I have no. Further ideas and trick my brain into providing ideas again because they're in there, you know. So I'm I'm forty seven years old, and I've been doing this, and this and only this whatever this is now for twenty one years, and that's not enough of a track record to persuade yourself that there will be twenty one more. I figured out sort of rationally that I have enough data to support the suggestion that I will be able to continue. But even though I understand it rationally in deep part of me. I am certain that has done. I was lucky early in my life to have some successes in my thirties with Roger rabbit lion. King and beating the beast. Don Hahn is a Hollywood producer and fifteen or twenty years after that you start second guessing yourself and start saying have I lost what I had back. Then then you lose the process because you don't start. You know, you just don't start because you're afraid that somebody's going to say well, Don was really great back when he was thirty years old. But boy is he lost it. You know, those are really hard times to get over because they're crisis of confidence. How do you quiet those voices of disapproval voices that are often imagined either own or someone else's it took a while? It was like a year and a half of that Jennifer Egan remember was stuck on her post Pulitzer novel. Her solution was just to keep plowing through I kept working through it. Because one thing I really know is that you can work through anything. I think we think we're more fragile as artists than we really are one thing that kind of helped me get through it psychologically was that. I I finally felt you know winning appeal. It's probably shouldn't ruin anyone. I mean, if I really can't write another good book because of winning that I was done. The only reason I'm terrified now because I'm not actively working on it today. But when I get down into line by line, something clicks, something comes together. John Hodgman also finds the only solution for fearing the work is doing the work and also helps to be in the shower. I remember back in early two thousand nine I was invited to do some comedy at the radio and television correspondents awards dinner, which is sort of the junior league White House correspondents dinner, the tradition was the comedian would do comedy and the president would be there. And and say some words as well. This was stunning invitation for me to receive I had only been on the daily show for a couple of years. And of course, I had to say, yes. Even though I had no idea what sort of comedy I could do in on that stage for then newly inaugurated President Barack Obama whom I liked but also who had no track record as president to even make jokes about. And I really was frozen for a long time as I tried to think of jokes, quote unquote to tell and then I was in the shower, and I remembered just sort of talking out loud to myself, I remembered that on a different radio show. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Peter Sega l- had asked Barack Obama who was a guest on the show at the time. When he was a Senator is it true that you saw Leonard nimoy in the streets of Chicago. And did you flash him the Vulcan salute? And Barack Obama confirmed that this was true. And I remembered the Barack Obama had been making jokes regarding dilute the crystals and Joyal the parent of Cal l of course, is better known as Clark Kent slash superman. I like, oh, right. There's a reason I liked this guy. He's a nerd. Yeah. Or is he a nerd or is it all an act, and I realized in that moment in the shower what my preoccupation was. And what I wanted to know was are you really nerd or? Are you faking it which which I realized in that moment was sort of the question that everyone on all political sides? We're asking about Barack Obama are you for real? Of course, we remember a lot of people who did not like Brock Obama asking him. If he was a real US citizen asking him, if he wasn't secretly a Muslim or an alien, or whatever it was then there are a lot of people. But we forget there were a lot of people on. The left leaning wing of the spectrum who didn't trust that. He was a real liberal. And there was so much about him that was unknown. And for me, I had a genuine question to ask. Are you really nerd that could serve as a metaphor for asking? Who are you? And what kind of leap of faith? Are we taking with you? Hearing Hodgman described this. You may be thinking, wait a minute. You were asked to do comedy. Is this nerd thing? Funny. What's more important than funny? When you're creating comedy is what are you genuinely curious about? What are you genuinely feeling even the most absurd fake facts that I wrote for the daily show had to resonate around an ounce of truth? So tuning into that one of my what am I thinking about knowing what you know or not knowing what's going on in the back of your head is kind of the hardest part. And once you once you get that out of there. Suddenly for me, that's me snapping my fingers for those listening on the radio, it all it all floods out from there. Coming up after the break, some people deal with failure in most unusual way. They treat it like success. Of course, you could say picked off as if it's not so. Forget her me might be like from you not always have even get to pick up. Really? That's up ahead right after this. And if you want to catch up on previous episodes in the series, it is called how to be creative any podcast app or even Google will help you find him. Freakonomics radio is sponsored by Capital One with the new Capital One saver card. You can earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment. That means four percent on checking out that new restaurant. Everyone's talking about four percent on watching your team win at home. You'll also learn two percent cashback at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet? Failure is such an obvious component of any success that probably keeps a lot of people from trying things. They should Shane Theresa Ahmad delay is a social psychologist at Harvard Business School who studies creativity, especially in work settings. If people have a growth mindset, they believe I can always get smarter. I can always get better at something. And I'm not gonna get better. Unless I try things that are hard. And sometimes that means I'm gonna fail at something. But who cares? But a lot of people do care for a lot of people failure hurts and hurts to have other people witness your failures. So who are these people who don't care where does that come from partly? That's a trait. But it's something that can be changed parents can can talk to their kids about and we can certainly do that as as managers of ourselves. Look, I know that this is a stretch for me I've been asked to take on this project, but I'm gonna go for it. And if it doesn't work out that well, I will have learned how I can do better next time five thousand one hundred seven prototypes. So that will five thousand one hundred twenty six this James Mason is the British engineer. Best known for having revolutionized the vacuum cleaner. And just when you've. How enough and you think you'll never gonna get the onset. That's the point where you miss try even haunt because that's the point where everybody else gave up. So you miss through that. The pain barrier and in order to succeed. I I would say that for an engineer or someone developing technology. It's really life of failure. And you have to get used to that. Because you'll success is pretty rare. But it it's happy life. Although I mean failure isn't isn't something that makes you unhappy? It makes even more curious as to how to come the problem and. In order to fail. You have to experiment, and experimenting is exciting. Even if it doesn't work, in fact, his slightly disappoint you when it does work because you've done it. And that's the end of that one. And you go to get on with something else. Says you're building things you have one idea in mind. Mitch Resnick runs a project called lifelong kindergarten at the MIT media lab. But then it works a little differently than you expect. And that gives you a new idea and you start making judgments, and I do think the most creative and the most enjoyable experiences. Come when you're involved in that process at the intersection of making playing we're constantly experimenting iterating, try new things refining. And I think it's true that today's society of Nuys kids aren't giving enough opportunities for tinkering, they're given fully made things that they just use or they're giving its truck Sion's Zach gotta do things. So I really do think we need to give them the tools materials and support where they can tinker experiment and iterating constantly trying new things that's the way they're going to best develop as creative thinkers and be ready to thrive in a society. That's gonna demand in require creative thinking more than ever before. There's one word that Resnick does. Not use to describe this iterative process failure. He feels a negative connotation is just too strong clearly things go wrong. Things unexpectedly all of the time. She become accustomed that. Don't see it as a problem, but seed is something of an opportunity it's really important to create. Environments where kids feel safe to take the risks? Because when things do go wrong, if someone says a, you know, that's no good. Why do you ever try that they won't take risks again? So we have to make sure to create environments where kids are encouraged and feel safe to take risks tough things go wrong, but then be able to recover and to take a new directions the ability to recognize when something's failing or at least foundering is important in the creative arts as well. Maybe you've had success doing one thing for a long time, but tastes change technologies. Change in the thing you've been doing even if you keep improving it's just not connecting the same way for scoring seven years ago. Our fathers brought forth on this continent, a nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal Conan O'Brien is a history nerd, maybe. He'll become a US ambassador someday. I'd like to know what it pays. I'd like to know what kind of embassador aerial residents. I would have am I really free to commit crimes in those countries. In the meantime, O'Brien is still a late night. Tv talk show hosts, which he's been doing for more than a quarter of a century. But recently, he made a change the story there is I realized a couple years ago that I'm killing time at half an hour when I first got the gig. It was you know, you fill in our because it's this precious our that needs to be filled in it's all how you do it creatively. But over time you're starting to say, and in my next guest, and my next guest, and that felt artificial to me, and it felt like it didn't fit this new world we're in and so he reformatted his show which is called Conan. It's now thirty minutes instead of sixty he also did away with the stream of celebrity guests that March through most talk shows instead he's focusing on the comic pieces that have driven his massive online numbers. We have YouTube videos that have had seventy million views. But no one's watching the. The whole show other than my parents. No, one is watching the show from eleven to twelve there's a whole generation of people that don't watch anything like that. There is another creative medium were taste changes. So aggressively so furiously the trying to out think your audience or the market may drive. You mad. I'm Linda folk an autism urine devote who lives in Berlin has become quite successful. Her painting sell for a lot of money, and they're in the permanent collections of the pump do in Paris, the British Museum in London the museum of modern art in New York. But she doesn't like this kind of success. As measuring stick? Bolic's failing or winning. It's just about being and doing cafe always pot of it to accept it. And take it as pod of of reason to do something. You just one form of failure that vote celebrates of costing you could say picture phase. If it's not so loot, forget me might be like that from you, not always have even a picks back really heavy, really. Because us a weird to the books all the time. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. It's not made for sounding as you made it because you want to know something. Yeah. And it's many, and you know, something that who told me did anyone I to it. I like your in devotes attitude. The failure of painting to sell is actually a success because she gets to have the painting back. How you think about a failure? What other people might consider failure says a lot about who you are as a creative. And as a person also as a brother this is Mark do. Plus, I am a filmmaker do plus and his brother Jay had been working together extraordinarily closely since they were kids. They wrote a book about it called lake brothers. Yeah. I mean, the biggest failure we had in our career was making this feature film, Vince del Rio for about seventy thousand dollars that turned out terribly, and we never even finished it. And then a couple of weeks later, we turned around, and we spent three dollars making a short film in our kitchen, and that was our first movie that went to Sundance. So we quickly realized that being professional and making a movie for a lot of money does not mean it's going to be a good movie, but staying near and dear to your anxieties your Phalle abilities, your Gulnara Bility's staying close to that conversation. You had it at two in the morning with your sibling or loved one or friend where you were giggling with shame or crying about something that was so personal to you think no one could understand. It is soon as you go into that stuff. That is. I think that's where you win the do. Plus brothers over the years built an unusual and unusually robust career making films and TV shows together they wrote and directed together. Sometimes inseparably in the beginning. Mark did a lot more acting. But eventually j was doing a lot to most notably in transparent, they made the film's Cyrus Jeff who lives at home, and they made the HBO series, togetherness that show was all consuming. Yeah. We wrote produced directed every episode of that series like idiots, and the main issue is that we had completely lost our desire to hang out with each other. Because we were essentially hanging out together thirteen hours a day working, and we weren't spending any time together as brothers and friends, and we always promise ourselves. We would keep an eye on that on that work and personal balance. They had had two successful seasons with HBO and we were in the middle of. Writing season three. But there was a shakeup at HBO. And we got the news that we were going to be cancelled. And neither of us wanted to be the first one to speak, and we were both scared about how relieved we were as opposed to actually emotionally crushed and didn't want to admit it to each other. And once we did it felt amazing. You know, we realized that there was no way we were gonna cancel togetherness ourselves. There was no way. The situation was too good. The money was too good. The creative opportunity to good people were loving the show. We were going to go in and drive that thing until it killed us. We had to actually have taken away from us. And that began the new phase of of Jay's in my relationship. So for the first time in forever, Mark and Jay dupe loss weren't really a team anymore. It was a sort of failure. And we both felt a little bad about it. And both felt a little excited about it. And and it's been really healthy for us in the long run. I mean, I'll be honest with a lot of tears and a lot of heartbreak on on both of our parts. And there are times when I wake up, and I miss so desperately the way it felt when Jay and I were twenty three and twenty seven just moving through the world as one being, but we're also aware that like that was of time in place when our life was unilateral thing. And we can't really get that back, and we have to redefine what that thing is now for us does the collaboration feel a little bit like a phantom limb that lake. Whoa. I'm used to working this way. And I guess another way of asking the same question is does it feel like something that you want or need to get back to or that you're kind of happily or resign Italy or just organically getting to a new phase? And you're you're willing to take it as it comes it. It doesn't feel this similar to really amicable break up. And I would like in it to like a couple that breaks up because one wants to have kids and the other one doesn't they still very clearly love each other. But they have different views of the future, and they would miss each other desperately. But also know that it doesn't work right now if they were to do that. Right. And so that's very similar to the way. Jay. And I are there's actually kind of a working rhythm that we have developed into where my brain is very fireworks loud explosive place, where ideas tend to come whether I want them or not. You're the buffer correct? Yes, I'm the bar for and they're noisy. And they are. At times quite annoying to Jay because you can't get the space to like incubates his sort of like really, well crafted quiet, thoughtful soulful ideas at the same time Jay can be really annoying to me because I'm ready to go my fireworks going off. And he's kind of holding me back because he's trying to do his thing. And so we we had to get honest with each other be like, oh, we might be creatively bad for each other right now. And this is just one rhythm in one phase we're in and God knows what's going to happen year or two from now. We might listen to this podcast and be like, whoa. You're totally wrong. You just needed six months away. And then you'll be fine. But you know, he'd be the first one to admit it feels like an albatross to my rhythms at certain times. It's really it's really good for us. But the phantom limb thing is I would say very very accurate. I can go make a project on my own. I can literally hear what Jay is saying. To me without him saying it because I know what he would say, and I can get a lot of his feedback. So who needs them? Yeah. And then and the other elements is that we have been able to take some of the lessons we've learned as collaborators and collaborate with other people and make those collaborations pretty successful too. Because I will say this to anyone out there. If there is anyone in the world who is interested in collaborating with JD. Plus there is no greater more self-aware sweeter. More generous collaborator in the universe. Would he say the same about you roughly slightly different education? Maybe I think he would use different adjectives. I think what he would say. I know what he would say he would say that. There's no more generous collaborator than Martha's. No one who is willing to drown himself while holding you above water. So you can achieve your glory. Then Mark, which is a, you know, some something else, I'm working on it therapy. But that's a whole that's. All other podcasts. Thanks to marketplace. And everyone else who's shared their ideas, their fears their advice in this how to be creative series. If you want to hear some of the full interviews from the series checkout, Stitcher premium, you'll find my full conversations with Jennifer Egan, Conan, O'Brien and Wynton Marsalis. 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The inspiration behind brass monkey, Rick's infamous bubble machine, and why DJ double are bailed on the BC's first big break opening up from Madonna on her like a virgin tour and nineteen eighty-five five. This is broken record. Lana notes for the digital age. I'm Justin Richmond. Park. It's been about twenty years since Rick and Adam Horovitz talked, and like most soon calls. Their reunion gets off to a glitch glitzy star Mike. D kicks things off. His Adam. WHAT'S UP SIR? Ricky look different. Is Good to see you. Look the same, yeah. No. That's a lot that is an abomination Mike. You great their own start at those start L. Start. Reversible Very Nice See. It's been a long long time. The last time I can remember a speaking was at one of the two bitten. Freedom shows yoga memory then I. Don't remember that that to be but I mean just time wise putting a time stamp on it. That was at least twenty years ago. Is Unbelievable it's surreal, and it makes no sense. I mean from my perspective. It makes no sense I'll say. I. I don't know why it worked out that we've not hung out in that amount of time. I'm just so busy, you know. I can remember. There was a little window of time that we started spending a little bit of time together in Los. Angeles right when you came to Los Angeles after I was already there and and I can remember. We had lunch at Hugo's. Damn I. Don't remember anything all year. On back in the Hugo's days Mike China tug. Pasta Alla Mamma. China Talk Right now. We hold out a handful of times, and I remember seeing you and I think. Something happened that. I don't know what happened. At the Party for the blood sugar sex magic album. At the it was that album. That's what happened. Oh my God I got daggers today, coming with all feel energy. I read we can see we can see. We can see I'm in I'm in a mood today. I had him for your free. With your daggers, you need like need a bank of sound effects like Doug Siren none and I'm just in a mood. Let's get all the dagger out. Let's do. Let's listen to what the show Rick. What happens on your show. What's what is it I wouldn't call it a show it's it's usually conversation I talked to different artists, and they tell stories about what they do. It's not unlike what happens in a recording session. Before the music gets made just bullshitting. That's typically what it's like just kind of an especially if it's someone that I don't know. Learning they are. When can I start with a question? Wish I know is, but I'm just curious I. Want to ask you find you. More often. Find out things that you don't know about people that you do know what they're doing. Your show or you find stuff about somebody you can do. It's doing your show more in unexpected way than somebody who you don't know it all. Who's doing your show where you have no backer? In both cases, I learned a tremendous amount about the people I'm talking to. It's maybe more unusual with people that I know because I get to talk about that. We don't normally talk about like. I was thinking about even from the time that we knew each other back in the day. Stuff we never talked about like I wanted to ask you guys about high school like I. Don't know what your experience, a high school. I was just curious like wow. I was around. It was about the time you guys were just either just. Ending high school or just recently ending High School Mike. What was that like never talked about that well, it's funny to think actually as you say that because we spent so much in your dorm room, I've never once pictured you in a class I had no idea I'd never even thought that. You actually like attended class. Yeah, I didn't I, didn't attend many right well and angels conversely on we in your dorm. Rick because we were not going to school right, so it's like yeah, but that's a good point. We never ever talked about lean I never ever. About nyu ever we for our perspective, we just thought. This is. The Guy Lives in a dorm. He's going to college and we're in high school. So. This. This is cool. You're like we thought you were going to be like turned. You know you're like the cool excite, the older guy and then at also mistakenly think we thought. Wow, we're going to be hanging out in this dorm. Which means we're going to beat like tons of girls? This is going to be great and we never talked to anybody. But it was not like I mean for you might. Adam, what was your? What was your school experience like on Sixty Third Street? Well I was I went I was supposed to go to Brooklyn Tech because I wanted to go to stuyvesant, but I didn't get in so I went to Brooklyn Tech. and. That was just too weird. That's a whole other story, but tell it tell that story. What was weird about it? No Brooklyn to alike I wanted to go to stuyvesant. Because my best friend Arthur went there and and I didn't get in, so I went to school. You could go to technical school. In Brooklyn and it was massive, and they had like metal detectors to get in, and it was just. A technical school in like quickly realized after like the third day like this is not for me I don't know what the is fry. It was just so overwhelming. Looking back I wish I would've actually stayed in. Learn something technical. Actually quit could've helped me, but. So just going to school for Awhile Knit my dad. Got Me into the school McBurney. That was a a private school of town. And I was there for a couple of years in stop going probably right around the time I met you. And not that the to another two things are related, I'm just saying what was the experience like of the school like what the kids a lot experience going going to school. Because, I was also I got into graffiti. 'cause we into graffiti. That was the fun part about getting to school is just like being on the train watching this, you know just seeing who is on there and all that stuff in school. The first school was was just overwhelming i. I can't even describe as huge with thousands of kids domestic school and then McBurney was like a preppy school. It was like A. I. Don't know I just seem felt out of place there I felt kind of dirty like my closer dirty, but can you tell tell us the story atom? Y? You never returned to McBurney oh. Yes, so they had the school play was going to be Oliver. And so they had auditions and I, and I sang for the audition. Consider yourself at home in never really sang out loud before and I was so bad that I just left. The school had never went back. I'll say arriving. You'd be a good artful artful dodger Arcos Andrea good guy, even now I eat then now in between five. Oh, I know, but it was singing. I can't say as you know I can't sing. Can but it's just bad. Yeah, yeah, it's not you're. Not Not Rapping Forte again it. Added did you get into graffiti? Before before hip hop music, or were they simultaneous later later? Hip Hop later. No Rap? Music I definitely Oh. And do you remember? The record stores that you guys hung out. And did you hang on record? hung out a rat cage. WHO's out like the first record store where you would like spend time? Cage were like that that was the first record store where I I felt comfortable. Talking to the person behind the counter, a go to bleeker Bob's all the time like like. Get off the train coming home from school. I go to Bleeker BOB's. And I'd be terrified because Bob is always there, he deal. Yell at you. Yell at me and he had that huge Doberman Pinscher. Should was scary and yeah, they were always mean to me. Booming to everybody always say random weird Jewish stuff to me. I was just like a little kid. I just wanted to find out about what what was new was cool, and I didn't know and they were so mean, but then you glad you remember going to nine nine record. That was where I hung out. I love a love nine. My memory of those days were that the whole schedule of the day was based around going to the club. Did you guys feel that way as well or no, Oh, yeah. That was that was really the the primary thing every day. was what club was going to be that night? If there was going to be a band, if not what Dj's to go to see and. Where to hang out. Well, that's why wreck. The wreckage register was was great because. It was the first record store that kids hung out at me at least him the other that he used to go to. Kids wouldn't really hang out bleeker Bob's maybe, but I didn't like it there and so wreckage was like a meeting. Hang out place and later your dorm room was. Going moving the needle photo like we would hang out with you and we go to your door. I, remember it. was just kind of like. Go to your dorm room and then figure out what we're doing that night. That night always revolved around what club we are going to. I remember it always being around music. The day we would Y-. Make mix tapes and sometimes sit out on the front. The front of the dorm with boombox listen to music, and it seemed like that's all that it was. That's all it was going. All that seemed important was music and what we were going to eat and what we're. GonNa Listen To. and Michael's clearly focused on hooking up. Little, did we know I interested I wasn't very good. in that arena. Yet, but but yeah but I was interested. Where did the original Volkswagen emblem come from? Ellis from my friend Laura. Chilton. It was auditor wall. So wait wait I was at on her wall on that chain. If I don't remember. I think she just had it on the wall. She took it off a car, and for some reason I I, had it and then put it on a string. And then you took it. That's what I love about being a teenager. How much stuff just sort of goes from one kid to the next to the next righteous I? I, remember I. Feel Like I. Feel like you out came over, and it was like you gave it to me. In a glorious presentation. I like in my revisionist history. I feel like. It's almost like I. Feel like I was knighted. You guys gave me bestowed. It was bestowed upon. You isn't a soda on the and then I could become Mike D. I'm GONNA dispute because. Think about what am I ever given you? Feel like. I feel like I remember this happening. Though I feel like I, was there yes the stowing? Bestowing. You'll be like I. Don't know how it ended up being on the chain because I don't think it was on that chain. Like that chain was like sitting around I. Don't remember that day but I remember them once. I started wearing that. It was kind of like then it was like. I felt like everybody felt like our I could be my Tino. How's your Superman Cave? It was wow. When you first met these guys. What what what can you think of a time? Where or sometimes when you like? Oh, I! Get them I understand who they are like. I understand who yoke is who Adam is or who Mike is like. What was your sense of that? I remember meeting Adam I through Davis Gilpin. And our member Davis Kokin was sort of in my mind. The glue like he was a kid who was just. A super, friendly and outgoing, which I don't think any of any of us were I thought we met you and I met because of Nick Cooper. Member Nick Cooper but I didn't remember. That's how we met. I do rick remember remember Nick Cooper telling us about you being like. Yeah, there's I need them. Because we put crooked plus out, they needed a DJ. Is You gotTa meet them? He's into like the stuff that you guys are into, and he's a DJ and he's got all the equipment at a coordinator to nick. I asked you. Got A bubble machine. That was his big line true. It's true. Rick is confirming the bowl. That I know I had access to a bubble machine access you. Know. Near writing the book you were like Rick Didn't have you know I? said the bummer machine, and you're like I. Don't think so, and then you call Rick and. BUBBA machine housing? You both are crazy. Because there was definitely a was bubble machine. Why else would you WanNa meet someone exactly? They have a bubble machine. All Cal, the funny. The funny thing is is that the bubble machine was something that just was at the door. It's like and when I heard that there was a bubble machine. They're like. Oh, wow, we got to have a party. We have a bubble machine now, so let's have a party and that was where the bowl machine story began. Am curious about like what your relationship with each of them was like I can remember spending the most time with Adam and it seemed like our friendship had mostly to do with music. Because that's what we we just listened to music all the time as I recall and DJ music, and then I think the other guys through the story of course after cookie. PUSS was already out and then wanting a DJ, and then I came to a couple of shows in DJ after the after the live set as I recall. Hard to remember first impressions I. Remember Seeing Mike Before I. Met Mike at Negril one night, and I remember someone saying that that's one of the guys in the Beastie boys and I remember thinking. It was just like. It was just a weird. Had A weird impression, not good or bad just like. He's a kid feels like maybe my age, maybe little younger, and he's in a band, and and I remember he was I. Think I think you may have been pretty inebriated that night. A Mike and I just remember thinking. Wow, this guy seems like a little like. Seemed like revved up? Revved up. Like tough tough Guy Mike. You mean like he's just like bad boy. No, no, no, just like like. Enjoying himself. He was hitting it hard. He goes hard in the paint he went. He was going hard in the paint, and it was impressive. Come on, don't remember meaning. He berated that night. which doesn't mean that I wasn't but what I. What I do I do. Remember is two things one is. That was really really important for like? Rick is like a part of us. Is that was like what we really saw? Hip Hop came talk about it in a book where hip hop came downtown and recall sudden. There's a truce three and then I think it was next week was Africa Been Bata Jazzy Jay if it was that night, whatever and it was just it was the most exciting thing, but so by the terms of compensating the there's like A. A quarter I was completely twenties. I, look I think about. I think back on those Negril Nights. And I think while I was like so intimidated. I was so scared to be there, but I was looking every second of it. I would. There was no like club night. Maybe that was more influential or exciting to me, but I was compensating for being intimidated, probably like because I was with like my group of. Friends I was probably actually like Oh. 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That was really really into hip hop the time and felt like it was the first punk rock expansion towards him up. That's what it felt like. It was as much a punk. I would say was as much a punk rock record as it was anything else compared to hip hop records, it was punk rock, but compared to other punk rock records. It was more hip hop and I remember thinking really cool, and and and had A. And I remember laughing at it and laughing at it with it. You know like laughing with it thinking. This is really funny. It's really good, and I remember I. Remember the I remember Yao and his motorcycle jacket and his long raincoat, and at one point I felt like him and Nick Cooper kind of how to similar. vibe. You know that raincoat. How I met. Nick Cooper, but I remember that to me. It felt like an anomaly. In both cases. The raincoat vibe was not something you saw. Kids in New York. Wearing like it was a. it was a fashion statement to where Long Somewhat Dressy raincoat. Yeah, yeah, the ring vibe played played strong when I first met Yok. At at this bad brains show botany talk house and he was the only other kid. My Asia was there I was like wow, this kid's wearing a trenchcoat and combat boots, and his like hair spiked up like this kid's. Really Cool Yuck actually kept that raincoat. Thing I that trenchcoat for a long time. TRENCHCOAT by work. is going to say also remember Yikes obsession with the bad brains like if felt like nothing else in the world existed other than the bad brains and you. Can that, on for a long time to yeah, and I I remember as as music fans seeing that sort of obsessive deregulation into thinking. Wow, he's really again going hard like he's going hard for this thing that he loves spector you. You feel like you've got the answers that you wanted yeah. I I'm curious. What what When you're eighteen, it's kind of hard like how would you describe somebody you meet is kind of hard, because it's more about like what what common interests like being having saint music interests, but did you have a sense during like just not knowing these guys then how you would describe each of them. I never really thought about it I. Did feel like I definitely felt that I felt like The place that I grew up in and the people I was around and where I grew up. Had A big impact on what I. What I saw what I knew and I felt like their life experience was very different than mine, and it was just interesting and in some ways. it was a good thing and in some ways I thought it was a bad thing from from my perspective. And what what was what was it bad? You're talking about like a long island versus city kid kind of right. I would say at like. They had better access than I had. because. This is pre internet like now, everyone could find out anything they want about anything where I was, it was hard to find out anything about anything I would spend a lot of time in the library doing research, and even and even that research wasn't sort of cultural love the moment research. It was just what I could learn about things. I was interested in and then spending a Lotta time in record stores is my closest way of having any. Connection to culture because where I lived there wasn't. It didn't really exists although there was a club called. A couple of nightclubs and I did get to see. Like, the specials played in my hometown, which was remarkable on the downside I felt like maybe by living in the city. It might eight narrow. The view of what was cool. I didn't know what was cool. Coming from where I came from, and the beauty of that was I could, I could see and hear everything. There was very little. Peer pressure about about that where I lived whereas I could see if you're in the city. There was stuff that was cool to like a not cool to like and that could. Have a limiting effect. I mean I guess yeah I heard led Zeppelin Lane for by other kids at School of because in to your. I already decided I was so set on making my identity about feed into stuff. Those kids weren't into. I couldn't hear led Zeppelin, but then when we were in your dorm room and also you know you put on when the levee breaks. We're like WHOA, was it. It's like the best thing ever ACDC, or you know what would tell me a Mike I. Tell me Your memories of the Dorm Room. I oughta I college dorm. I'd ever. Been in period to your in high school. I, remember just being intimidated like going up to the desk, and I guess I must have been like maybe Mr Rick. Rick Nadeau the desk and like having to get the past or whatever to go up in the elevator. beat the visitor pass because we're visiting you. And then. I. I remember being kind of confused because you had a roommate, but then you I think you had a roommate right I actually. I need you to kind of like. Explain this to us, but I think you had a roommate when we first went there, but you had this huge. In the in the dorm room, if I to serve when Vega you know. There's like the biggest PA of ever seen. Like, somebody that you have and with the turntables, and like the drum machine and everything it's a we loved it and were impressed the. Equipment but I was very confused as we. How does Rick just like? We're listening to music really loud in your dorm room, which loved it. But how how is this guy able to do this? And like not get kicked out of the dorm room and wears his room like. A lot of questions yeah. Yes all of that. Atom. What were your? What are your memories of the Dorm Room I. You know first of all I was looking for a place to be basically. You know sort of in life, and literally like not going to school in meeting somewhere to be. But also being around older kids is cool when you're younger, you know intimidating, but you know Kinda. Cool, you're like you kind of think. They are one of the. You know older kids now. And it was just it was just cool I. Especially going to your dorm room you had. Just the records the stuff like you know. Two turntables drum machine I was like I loved it I? Didn't have you know I didn't have that stuff. I didn't have all his records. So it was great, I loved it. I mean like talk about access. And yes, we did. We did have like. Near City when we got the book in the show, whatever w was a huge thing. We would just hear music all around us or that. We go to rat cages. We Wanna find out what's happening that night and somebody say Oh, this thing that's happening. We just go there because we had this access as teenagers, but but your dorm room. It was just really exciting, said we would I remember. I was my. I was again like kind of confused, but so impressed. When you you would come you it. Felt like you would come if they deliver coffee or if you'd come back every week with a crate records from the record pool. Yeah, and you remember that we'd all we'd go through them and put like as the everyone on to see what was good. What we like didn't like whatever we listen to every twelve inch from that weak and I was like exciting. Being I didn't I didn't have the I had the money to get a single like a rap single every once in a while. But I certainly would never think never had the money to buy two copies of the same record. That just seems nuts. And so to go to your place in. You had two copies of all these singles that I loved. And had to turn. It was just amazing. It was nice to see you too obviously in. Feel used an did. Get that bubble machine access. Little then? also I think an Ataman. I've talked about this. There was it was interesting. We felt like near China's think back at like. When we first met you start working with us like you had especially like once. You Start when he started producing. with us. Producing our records. It was like you had this confidence. Rick. That was like you know. It's all like every. Either any of us were like Rick. What record and you know what I mean like, and and we're all whenever we're all the seventeen eighteen years old, but it's like you had this. Confidence like you knew how you wanted things. Sound and looking back at it like I'm just so impressed odyssey with that like who it's gotta be pretty rare somebody like. Eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one years old knows how they want like wh. What types of records? They WANNA make. It's Weird I. I definitely knew I. had a clear vision of what I wanted to hear. Really as a fan wasn't it was more. I just loved it and I knew how certain things made me feel and I wanted more of the ones that made me feel good and less than the ones that didn't make me feel as good and. It was a very pure. Same Way same way that you connected to it I just and I think maybe part of it might have been that I. didn't have brothers or sisters, you guys both had siblings and I think that changes it. I spent most of my time until I started hanging out with you guys by myself, so wasn't the only opinion. that. I was around was my own. You! Know I didn't have an older brother. Playing Music I didn't. I didn't have. It all sort of. Had I had to find it and. And see what resonated me and it had very little to do with the people around me, because like in my high school, nobody liked punk rock. That was the only person who like punk route, so I had no sense of community at all when I started listening to hip hop. At least there were a couple of kids in my high school elective up well. I'm going to change the subject for a sec because there is something that I've wanted to know Yes, so spike. Not Know this, but so we got the. GIG to open Madonna on tour and rick was the Beastie Boys Dj. Dj Double are and we played a couple of shows. and then he was gone. And and he said that his doctor said he had inner ear. Situation that he couldn't fly. And, so I thought that that answer couldn't fly. And so now. I'm asking you. Did you just not WanNa? Do it or did you really have a? Hundred percent true it. Both both answers are flying with nate. None of course hundred percent true went to the clinic on fourteen was A. Your nose and throat clinic on fourteen. I had never been there before. And I went there and they said. You have a terrible infection in your ear. You gotTA. Take these drugs and you cannot fly. If you fly, you'll probably blues. You're hearing in that ear. So that was and we and I. It's funny because I don't remember talking about it, but also. Maybe part of the reason we didn't talk about. It was because it was. The tour was already ongoing, wasn't it? It was like we were we. I feel like we did like no, you don't. You flew out like you started the tour of us? In like Seattle and Portlanders and then for some reason you defy back to New York, but we were still on tour and you're. You're supposed to meet US again. Like in Los Angeles or something and that instead of meet US you're you? You know you you had. The ears vaction. Now we're finding out was legit, but at the time we are like ear infections well. I'll tell you everything free feel free to ask me. Everything was always legit. It's like I. I would love to. I loved being in the band. I loved doing shows. It was it was completely thrilling. I loved it. I feel in some ways. It's like the the universe. Has This incredible power to? Affect my year and make me stay in one place, and then it led to me focusing all my attention to production. Instead of being in a band, which could be like it could have been it. That could happen and it just sort of worked out the way. Maybe it was supposed to I don't know if feels like. In retrospect, looking back I would have never made that choice while I'll say, I didn't like travelling. I loved. The experience of playing in the band and was Super Fun. I thought shows were great like I can remember I can remember US playing at radio, city and Just how much the audience didn't like it and I just thought it was incredibly punk rock and fun. I can remember. Madison, Square Garden and thinking it was in. It was just like we're playing Madison Square Garden. Can you believe this? We didn't even really we didn't have an album out. It was unbelievable, right? To shows like rick? It was funny because we got to do the the crazy beastie boys show and lean into the craziness of. Of the sort of heel, persona, the bad guy persona, and in front of an audience, where it was completely inappropriate, which made it even funnier like it's? It's like if you're if you're. If you're doing a punk rock show in front of a punk rock audience. There's this camaraderie there, and if you do punk rock show in front of people who are not feeling it, it really gets punk rock. It's like it gets. It gets elevated to this other thing not for anybody but us. I mean I I found it thrilling. I'm I know. The audience hated it, but that was sort of part of the fun of it. Why didn't even more than hated it at it? I think that's where it became a thrilling to us. Was that like these twelve year old girls, and maybe more importantly, their parents were kiddingly horrified. They were they were repulsed. And to be right and there were a bunch of like little white kids yelling at them on stage like you should be. Offensive. And yeah and like Ricky obviously had a big that was that was another thing along with introducing us to to heavy metal, led Zeppelin and Sabbath ACDC you. We also like the wrestling thing never cool. That was on call to US strikes release trump graph, kids. It's still in question. Cool to everybody. But you were totally you let like. Cavalry in that world, and you immediately saw like this tune ity with the Madonna tour that like. It was like. You. Guys. What do you mean you're just going to be? It's just like wrestling. So. It's just pretty weird to think about. Most people don't think about. You have a band is going to open up for this somebody who is like a cultural icon who couldn't have been? You couldn't have a bigger on the planet at that Moment Madonna you the biggest star in the world. Most people just say like. How do you put a good show together and you? You saw through this totally other pins. No, it's obvious it's like wrestling with the other part of it was is no matter what we did. The audience was there to see Madonna and they weren't going to like what we did. Regardless right so to to really lean into that idea of will wear the weird. The the bad guys you. We're the enemies and to install. Overcome that. To play it with all this bravado like you're here to see me and like so ridiculous so funny. Adam do you remember the stuff you say? I remember you said some real. Most come on, you guys most of. The. Best and biggest line was I. AM the King of the paramount. Like whatever theater we are at that's Adam would open up this show. I am the king. Of Madison Square Garden. You Adam. Do you see the humor in this now really? Now of course I do. I? Have the space like I didn't like it. None No, no, no, we we also, we also just did it. This host, a bunch of times in the movie and the holidays. It's fresh in here I I'm it was amazing it was hilarious. It's IT'S A it's A. It's not A. It's not a wild idea, but it's it's. It is a great idea. You know they're not going to like us. They're certainly not gonNA. Love us. They might possibly be like I didn't like that, but if we can guarantee that they remember us by saying fucking hated that I will hate this in have this memory of hatred for a long long time. That's an interesting way to get your music through to somebody. And it worked it worked, and I remember the time like being convinced like it was like the. News like the boy way of L. WE'RE GONNA make a name for ourselves and we did. We'll be back after a quick break. A healthy lifestyle should be easy, right. VEGGIES DRINKING SMOOTHIES exercise to get your heart rate up. Do Yoga to bring your heart rate down. Okay, it's not so easy, but there is something that helps improve everything. And you can do it with your eyes closed. Sleep. Sleep number knows what it takes to sleep your best. 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We talked about it a little bit in the show, but obviously we have so much to, but that like as as fan, there's some bands at take awhile to form, and then some bandages come fully formed like and that record, and even just the way these guys described you with the competence. It sounds like you kind of came out fully formed in some strange. Amazing way was like what was the process of of that first record I just remember that every time there was a good idea we would make a new song and I can remember the I remember two parts I remember the lyric writing, which would be basically every night that we went out to the clubs I remember trading lines only with the hope of making the other member. Laugh like I would always say stuff that I would think would try to make Adam laugh if we were hanging out and if he laughed, I would write it down. And just collecting lines we would. We would all do it back and forth, and and collect up these mountains of of rhymes, not so much with a subject or a song in mind most of the time it was more just good lines. Then I can remember. Being in the studio, sometimes without him, sometimes myself just making tracks because. What I was always doing and would just make tracks. And and just trying to make something interesting and I and I don't think I could separate it in my head, but I knew the beats for L. were different than the beats for the Beastie boys and the beats for the Beastie boys were different than the run b. m.. and. It seemed clear to me, but I can't put a finger on what was different, but I knew as they were as we were making on this one. This one feels like L. Beat. And this one feels like this could be a really good beastie boys record does does likes gated snare drums I. Don't know can't say I can't. I can't put a finger on what it was. Do you remember sometimes making the record where it's like Oh this is what I get of gave clarity to the whole record is a decision of beat a lion, no I remember I was in electric, working on cults album electric and I got a call from Mike and Mike said. Hey, how come records not done yet? and. Do you remember this Mike No not at all. This is amazing, because I think this was like you guys were on tour. I assume I was must have been post ear infection. The on raising hell by that point and I remember like a somewhat heated conversation where you were like. Dude, you say, do but like the humbling of dude. Why I mean, we're on tour. Is Our album, not done. And? I said you know it doesn't and I. Remember like it doesn't just happen like it doesn't. It's not not happening because I don't want it to happen it Each of these things arrives when it arrives. Do you know what I'm saying it's like. We didn't go into the studio every day. With the idea of okay, we're GonNa make something today. It was more like. Making beats in the dorm, listening to records like coming up with what what attract was going to be which sometimes it'd be six weeks or two months between songs. You know took. It was a long period of time. I can't remember from the time that we made whatever the first song was for that record till we made the last song. I'm guessing it was eighteen. Months could have been two years was felt like a long time, and so also the other thing. You guys talk about Michelle Mike and I'm talk about this show is going on touring coming. Coming back and you'd finish the record and mixed it and they were surprised that it was this big thing where they thought they were making us sort of more lo fi rap record. Talk about that. Was that something you always saw? You always knew that that was the sound none at all I. in any case, it was no preconceptions. Something was supposed to sound like it was just. Making it sound as good as it could sound for what it was whatever it was like the same tree with l.. L. Or same is true with raising. Hell wasn't like it was no thought to it and. The gated snare. Thing was like a interesting. You bring it up because it was a it was like a moment in time and I think it was really what was the. Art of noise was the was the thing that got everyone excited about this kind of drum sound, and that was probably like experimenting in that art of Noisy Way. That led to. That is my guess if you had if you had art of noise, twelve inch man parish twelve inch. Which one would you put on I both liked the both can't put on both I know. Depends on it depends on. The scenario depends on the scene. So you read a room. Off. Can you turn the fucking roosters down in the mix place? Research a feeling it. The roosters deepen the paint today. Oh God I want to ask Mike Adam about their memories of Chongqing also oh man. China Messing Good Question I. Why I'm feeling like I. Remember I remember those we were with you. Rick and we're talking to Jaber. Net was like. Oh, you guys got to work at this place I don't think he said Chongqing's we. We named Chongqing. Like Oh, you got always secrets called secret society than US right? You GotTa work at the studio. My Friends Gio secret society. He was talking about the nieve console or something that stuff that as a kid. I didn't really understand, but he was all excited about so we're like okay bet, and then we go there, and it's just kind of like you know. We don't really know about studios, but it's just like Kinda bummy. It's not like nothing. There's nothing fancy about it. It seems like every other weekly. We'd go there one week and the next week like walls they. Always have. All surround yeah. You remember that like do I remember because it was kind of a loft space that the guy built out in? He was just kind of moving stuff around was weird place. I remember when we graffitied. We graffiti the wall behind the console. And I, I I kinda remember. We got yelled at amended became the thing of the studios at everybody came there and did graffiti while they. While they recorded. I remember the first time that we went there. PSYCHED WE'RE GONNA go according to bender like the news is recorded at a nice recording studio. and. This place was like a fucking dump. Yeah, it was fucking literally a dead fish in a fish tank, and it was dark. It was like super dark like everything was dark as lie. Why is why are we going to scary? Like Haunted House member walking five flight walkup, it was dirt dingy dirty place now, I remember the elevator. Because it was all graffitied and somebody wrote their name. It was all this graffiti and someone wrote Jose, Nina's in the top corner every time we got. The elevator. We thought that was the funniest name and it literally relaxed. Every time we were in that elevator because Nina, says a funny last name I feel like we. We laughed a lot at trump gain. Yeah, well and the way they're on the way out light. It was just. Like I think part. Of the key things about licensed to ill was making it never felt like. You're making an apple by felt like what you just heard that he was kind of like. That was just part of our. Wake up go to your dorm. Listen to some records. Cozy Soup and Burger then whatever clubs going on night? There's an idea studio. It wasn't like. The coat like Adams said like it's not like you're making an album for this amount of time, and actually it's funny I think back at. You talking about Nicole making that phone call I feel like what's up with the record. I kind of a now I'm thinking back at her I. Remember is we are on the raising hell tour I remember. Run be really excited on Russell getting me all excited. You've got rick. What's taking so long with your album? You guys? She'd be like run because he deferred like by that. You know he was so excited about. Hold it now. Which is an hold? It now is like one of those songs like we're talking about like. We are out of the club I remember like me. I remember. We went in there and just flayed like around like a bunch of different. Like scratching things in offer records and Thickly even put down the versus, and then I remember you and Russell kind of hearing after we've already are done some stuff and you specifically being really excited about a loved. Like Ashley! You're upside than we were where you like. This this is it like this is. This is what you guys need to be making. That was mind blowing I loved it. Oh you know quest? Love just told me story the day that I wonder if you guys know this in Philly. When hold it now came out as a single? The version that was released to radio was the ACAPELLA which we call the Acapulco. and. So in Philly people thought that the song didn't have a beat or any music or anything. It's just vocals, and it was just just vocals and he thought. Wow, this is the craziest record ever heard. It's just this rhyming. and Said and it was really well liked in Philly, even though it was such a crazy. You know the first rap record not to have any music. and. And it was a hit, and then when the album came out, and it had the beat. Nobody liked it because they were used to Acapella. Version, which they thought was just like the greatest thing they ever heard. We were talking to him and he was saying so that it just reminded me of. Words that we tried to force into lake common. Speak. We'd pick random words on this This is what people say now. I can't alignment I'm trying to. Unlike I'm blanking on him so bad. We picked like. A few different words. Yeah, as it would be sometimes, it'd be a phrase like you'd. You'd hear someone say something at the club. That was just normal to them, and we would laugh. Breast monkey came from Jazzy, Jay talking about what he liked to drink and just like. Yeah, it's like what's funnier than brass monkey. Brass monkey is that was crazy night with Teela rock. Tell me I don't I. Don't remember. So, you were producing a record for a rapper named Teela Rock. Yes. and. We were going to go to the studio with you because the. That's what like when you're young. You just you just go with your friend wherever they're going like. It's just funny to think about going with your friend. Do Their job. Like no, you can't come to my job. I'm working doing. And, so I didn't think about it. The place was in Queens or long island or somewhere like allowing city, there was really take a car. It was really far yeah, and me and skill calmer there and it was just nuts. It just seems so there was like. grown-ups that we didn't know I. Dunno Taylor like a real rap scene. It was just weird and then jazzy Jay. Passed around bottle brass monkey means skills number like. This is fucking delicious. Yeah. I didn't know you guys. You guys actually drank it. Oh, yeah, the whole night was crazy and then. Rated in two separate cars and we're like in Long Island. We're like. Where are we in getting white castle anyway. Yeah, I remember going. I remember taking cars to white castle tubes hard in Manhattan. It was hard to get white castle. Probably for the best, but what are we say, 'cause rope a dope like in late eighties. Rope I just remember one word Dope and they'd be like. That's dope. Rope a dope, and then we're like he's like. No! Not Laugh. We said rope all the said that a lot, but then I should did not laugh. That is so funny. Because it's kind of great, nobody else was like. Oh! I. Forgot rope rope is great. wrote makes no sense. We gotTA bring back rope. Rope is really funny, though it's, it's explaining joke, it's not that good i. feel like flavor, had a Lotta the. Flavors normal waves speaking had a lot of references that could work their way into songs like of everyone we hung out with. Flavor was a gold mine of phrases. I just want you to know last. Flavor I was in my car in New York stopped at a red light and he got in my car. And I was just like what's someone's getting in my car and his flavor and he's a y'all. Let's take me like thirty six street. And so I drove it. Was I all right good to see you while? Nuts did. Did you guys go to at all to the studio? In public enemy was recording now I just remember I. Remember go to their the radio. Show the spectrum city. Show in Long Island and doing that and I remember just like listening with with you on our own. Listening to the demo for the song, public enemy number one like I mean on repeat like I. Don't think there's. A single demo. Demo listened to that much maybe single song that we listened to. So incessantly. That was so mind blowing Lee good. It was incredible. I remember listening to it all the time. I'm trying to think what were the other things that were like that we're like. They really took over our lives for period of time. Can you remember? Eric Eric Be President. Fly didn't say that school. School Day Scooby the G. Scores Es. PS k. all the people and nothing squares remember like how many times listen to that. In your dorm room and everywhere else like yeah, when he especially that thinking like like school. This whole Intro I! That things like. I see. What time is it? was his DJ's name. Code. Code No. Get you. Saw? Code Mon Mike owed coexist. So good. Oh, man, such, good record so funny! I mean I. Guess Whatever we we are of a certain age. So that's what we will talk about awesome like it is incredible. How many great rap records were coming out like one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine, like just mind blowing league good. Rap Records. I'm trying to remember which were the what were the other ones that really move the needle for US sucker? AMC's was everything obviously right on, are they? Ready? Mc were the I mean they were the archetypes like. J. Top so about performing and. Put a wrap show together. And how you know I think along with you how to put a rap record. Other anything else that we had that was an out like like with the public enemy tape. Other areas a demo I. Remember Biz Markie was. We heard that I his marquee tool, and talking about it DMC J. and be really excited about it. You had a demo for slick. Rick Children's story rig. Loved that right because that was another thing I mean lady. Dottie the show must have listened to Lottie Dottie the show I again unquantifiable amounts of types. Do you remember the story of let me wear? Let me clear. My throat came from I have a vague memory, but I don't know if it's accurate. No Tony I. Don't my memory. WAS THAT ON LL's demo tape that you found in the box of demo tapes that that came to the dorm before he started rhyming, he said. Let me clear my throat. And and I remembered that we for the reason. It was the funniest thing we ever heard. It may I mean there was. There was nothing funny about it, but somehow. The idea that that was the first thing said before the. Song starts I know it's so easy to take that out now you know. It's so. It's so easy. But back, then you, couldn't you just you didn't know how to take stuff out, and just whatever he recorded was on there, yeah. Yeah, it was it was it was nothing, but for some reason I remember. We latched onto his like. This is just the funniest thing we've ever heard. We just latched onto it I can't remember how it ended up getting into the song. I'm sure you're like wait. Let you should say let you should scream. Pat Really angrily. It's funny. It's so dumb, but again the the beauty it's in such a different context to though on on our song as opposed to his demo tape. Yeah, well, that's the beauty of the montage of hip hop. That's. Like. Re contextualising things that you find in the World Yeah Yeah any other memories of Dan Syria I feel like that was sort of the place that I remember. We went to the most so many I mean so much so many. All right where we. Really that. was. The first as we talked to girls. I thought you were you were just claiming junior high school status doing all kinds of things in the mix. No, I'm. Saying like me I just like hearing, you didn't know. You would hear every every night like A. Down or or new? Confusion You'd hear every single night or didn't. Jindong. Medium medium medium media. My favorite top three favorite things dance interior was. Being on that, dance floor room. Second floor just in the corner by the stairs. We'd always hanging out. The music would be playing people dancing. There was some guy in the middle of the crowd. Be Like work that body. Body. And? It wasn't just like one was like every night. Memories of the Roxie I I remember the rocks. Things, I remember. Advocate Bamba plane. Toni Basil Your Own Nikki. You're so fine at the roxy. I'm like a white kid at the rest of the is the. speedway place. Ever and here's African Bomba were the most important hip hop deejays ever and he's playing. Toni Basil like you know there's nothing. That I thought of rat like. Thank what I associated with Toni. Basil I was just like wow, that's incredible. He Could Make Toni Basil Oh Mickey. You're so fine work in. The Roxie was that and then I just remember being scared to go to the bathroom. At. Roxie, was just it was just like dudes like Sellin. Coke and getting. And like Shit was scary is felt like I. Was GonNa get robbed in the bathroom. Me To. That I remember because I went to Rossi when I was a kid, 'cause it was a roller skating place. And so I. I, don't I don't to roller skate, but like it's like a thing you go and hang out at the roller skating place in so then later years later. Roxie was a thing where we go to the disco. And I remember when we were there I. Don't know if first time were there, but then like fucking shots rang out, and someone had a gun and shooting people running. Like. This is not the same thing. From when I was eleven twelve. You know whatever? It was a place. Put a bunch of teenage dudes in the same place. Weird going GonNa have why is that? It is the case, but why teenage do just stupid? I don't say. I'm thinking about the the came Mickey reference that Ben Bodies in that probably led that hearing that there probably was a step in. Why the song it's tricky, got made Arthur GonNA say world, destruction and for him. Because same beat. World destruction is like the same beat. Yeah, I just I just remember. It's tricky being like. Feeling, there were certain vibes that you would feel it. A hip hop club that stood out. That were different than the others like How do you incorporate that because I definitely feels good like we're in the club? This feels great. That's now part of the language like that felt like part of the language in hip hop. Be If you're in a band and somebody in a band. Did a a Walsum beat instead of four feet, and he'd say Oh, that's a new part of the vocabulary. You can write a song with Wall Street. No matter. The world's be. I got tons of songs are well speeds away. One thing I did want to say as you were talking about how I don't even know how to explain it, people. Maybe it's not even worth trying to explain, but like we're talking about opening for Madonna but. It's also very interesting. Obviously, we've changed a lot through the years, but it's it's. It's interesting to me because people know I, like relate to us, or a lot of people know us just from like licensed Beastie Boys, and then there's a lot of people that grew up with us through a lot of stuff. Whatever but a lot of people know it's just like as in that. Incarnation licensed bill time and I. Think it's interesting you. You're like such a big part of like. Would we are opening up for Madonna and this this whole idea like persona, but then people actually know you now like from your persona now, not refer. Like! Like how you would talk then. And I even know how to explain trying to explain to people how you talk. When you're excited about. Like pro wrestling at how you would do that I don't even know how to capture it or explain it. Yeah, it's definitely A. Character. Inspired by Roddy. Piper would be one of the key Guy Rick, flair the guys who would. who you'd WANNA see lose and who would often find a way to win through cheating. but there were the funniest. They always like the bad guys in wrestling. The bad guys have the best lines so. They were the most charismatic and funniest characters. Put on the air as to do with Youth, Michael. You don't give a fuck. Thank you for this great to see? Adam I'd miss you. I love you and I look forward to continuing bridging bridging the years that we've missed loving too nice to talk to you. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 1

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 1

"Ooh. Workum back or you hadn't hoop on vacation. No, then you vacation pose nice. It was nice little mountain time in some snow up in mammoth. It was it was nice. It was a good time back though. It's good to be. You can help me with my statue your statue. I'm building Cody Bellinger. Oh, wow. Why not I've been I've been working on very diligently. You can help you finish it off. He's off to a great start dodger off to a great start as well. Be giants last night. We'll get all that coming up in just a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. I'm very excited to be backyard things to say things to get into. So this is tired of the wife. Well, more the kids. You can see that was enough. The wife was more useful. Yes. Yes. She been good. Hang the kids are much food or. Expensive, everything about it. Everything about it. It's complicated. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. It's good to be. But worse case I thought he was coming back today to it was too much for me to handle. Dole it out a little bit by a little bit after you know, a fantastic showing by the by the AK brothers. Yes. He k and k round. Yes. The camps. Yeah. Well, I did not say that. I punched in the face mask time we walked out of here. All right. And then like, we I see. Genius is talking LV. She's talking about the Lakers you talking about Luke Walton and Magic Johnson and everything that has gone on this season and heading into the next, but she did say the Luke Walton has done a fantastic job. Given the circumstances that use it. I think he's done a terrific job. I was just told yesterday that the Lakers had the most games lost to injury of any team. So yes, you're right. I think there was five games where he had the complete roster is disposal, and that's a that's a challenge for coach, you know, to constantly changing lineups. And you know, it's it's hard. But you know, we we were in a position where things were all going the right way. And and we'd be Golden State on Christmas day, which is a great present for me. But then also LeBron got hurt. And so it. Just you know, it it it really puts a lot of pressure on the coaching situation in terms of you know, what he's able to do when he's when he's shorthanded with players. So she gave Luke the out that I think a lot of us have been willing to give him the then that is the they just haven't had their guys they'd for the vast majority of the season. They haven't had their guys that when they have had their guys they've been pretty good. Now, there's a couple of different ways to look at this. You can look at this as she's setting the table for why they're going to bring him back or she's just being nice on the way out the door and saying look it didn't work out. But here's why didn't work not because he's a bad coach because he didn't have his guys. I mean, both can be true. Injuries. I think anyone who's being fair not the people who are like the Brian haters, and he just relishing anything perceived as a failure. But real basketball people know that if you don't have a top four players for sixty games, you probably aren't going to win a whole lot games. And so Luke does have that out. The question is did he do enough with the remaining players who were healthy. And I would say probably not to keep his job. Now that doesn't mean he's a bad coach. It just means in this, particular instance, he wasn't his best self to quote, Oprah Winfrey. Workout bra. No it didn't. But and that's why I keep coming back to the same spot that I keep coming back to. And that is not that had they lost Lonzo. And and LeBron for a while and they had gone from where they were on Christmas in fourth spot to. Hey, you know, what they barely made it they early made their seventh and eighth that goes down to the last season. They barely get in. They go to Golden State. They get a first round draw. That's not favorable for them in poem. They're out like that that could be a hit look date and have their guys they barely got in the whole thing. But the this is what happened, and I understand that there's injuries and a lot of other circumstances. But they went from in it too out of it almost just freefall, and even with LeBron this isn't a criticism, LeBron I think as much as it is a criticism of everything else that they were never able to put together a patchwork team where other teams have been able to kind of muscle through a tough part and their schedule. You talk about James harden. The rockets clinic appello was gone, Chris Paul. Was gone. And James harden, who's one of the best players in the league. Like, LeBron James, basically saying okay, here, we go all keep our head above water into guys back, then we'll take off Lakers never really able to do that. Because they didn't lose all of their top guys. And and the Houston Rockets are a deeper squad on a different mission. They're in position to win. Now, which means everyone they depend on our multi year deals season veterans etcetera etcetera. So even though they lose Clint cappella and lose Chris Paul for short period of time. They still get Erik Gordon. You know, who's really good player PJ Tucker who has blossomed to a really good to player, and it had James sunny still had talent that was invested in the Houston rock Houston Rockets when a Laker started to go down. They haven't man Stevenson, and they had Rondo so now they have age veterans that weren't supposed to be logging that kind of time, and depending on that way. But as veterans all on one year deal to just got here and won't be here. Tomorrow. So now to even invest it really in the Lakers that doesn't mean it in play hard. But it's just two different when you're investing squad disclose gonna ball all out, and do whatever you can't cut your heavily invested. And if you're veteran that just got here, and you're going to be gone tomorrow. You're going to ball all out, but not heavy invested as a Laker. So that scenario use laid out that's a criticism of the roster much more. So than Christian coach that the roster construction is what's put them where they are more. So than the coach not getting enough out of it. And of course, magic was big part of putting that team together. Here's genie talking about on her relationship with Magic Johnson tight as any two people any to executives, and we've got you know, a mission and purpose of what we're trying to do. And we're not done yet. We still have more to do. But I think we're going in the right direction. There's only two of you who breaks the tie. I mean in terms of basketball decisions, I will always defer to magic. I mean, his his ability to. You know, he's brought a vision of of the kind of team that you know, that we're going to build in the vision for what Lakers basketball will be. And I think you can you can see that. But we're still building that roster that that will get us there genie talking about a relationship with Magic Johnson. She said it right out of the chute right there that we're on the right track. We're headed in the right direction. And I think this is the question for the summer. And this is the question that people that are looking at what happened this year. Looking at the way that the team was put together looking at what the free agency situation might be. That's the question that I have is are they on the right track? And I don't think we're going to know the answer to that until we're done with the summer into were done knowing that. Okay. Did they add another top light top line guy? Did they go and fill out the roster with guys that aren't land Stevenson regime? Ron put together a more. Roster that makes a little more sense long-term as opposed to get through the season that that's that's an almost an unanswerable question for at least the next three or four months. Well, that's what I've been advocating in your absence as we try to as you try to great the job that these two men have done is that if you know by the roster construction as what is their statements that while it would be nice to make the playoffs this year. The real goal is to be a player in the free agent market this upcoming summer and have the cap space in order to sign who we want when we need to have to see this thing play out pass a summer. Now, the all season is done. And all we have is like a trade fries. Ahah Thomas or something like that? We can trash them from here all the way to the to the to the ocean. But until we get through this particular part of the process, it's an incomplete great. We're disappointed in season. But we understand what happened on both levels. Hopefully, hopefully. We understand this isn't our Howard. Yes. More genie. Plus whether or not the Lakers are run like a family businesses that a good idea from Brian win horse on that. That's coming up next. Have you to angrily? No, it is nationalism. Exciting for me. This might be my favorite thing. National burrito. Today at del taco. You can get a free half pound bean and cheese burrito with a five dollar purchase. Not really free. Benner free today by one burrito. Get one free. There you go. That's more. That's closer to free free. I got a question. Yes. You've now. Travis you've grown up here is what's your favorite L a burrito? Like where do you get it from? Why I don't know if this qualifies is in L A burrito. Because this by my house, but law school in drain us down in Orange County. There's a handful of them that places fantastic. Yeah. Yes. Are your people working? There are making them. No good. Just that. I'll I don't mess around like that. Yeah. Taco Lido in Arcadia. Of course, I don't miss around. Yeah. That well that's a defensive hold around with all your people. Love that play. This is this is attentive, go, okay. Yeah. Those you got any favorite breed blows the oblong. Oh. National burrito special. National burrito day. I don't know if they have a national special Guana right now. Well, did you just miss the first thirty seconds? We it's national burrito day. Wait a music. All. Yeah. Here we go. Baja fresh got five dollar burritos all day today as well saying, it's free. No, it's. Frito Carne Asada you always going with that. Or do you mix it up Reito's? Oh, jeez. Jeez. Kill this tease. Drivers, go Carne Asada Donald's back. That's the best way. You ask me. Give your answer kinda need us store is too much food for me all at once stopping. Kind of taking the air out of my sails ELS e. All right. Just keeping it real, man. You don't keep a six pack by MA Apax. You know? Well, that's probably true. We're just talking about admitting go the off season in what the offseason means for the Lakers and how they get back on track. And whether or not this whole season was a prelude to what they were going to do this season. Here's genie talking about magic, and rob. And they're important offseason. That's coming up. They've got everything plotted out. And and and the goals that they're trying to accomplish. I think people have to realize, and and you know, basketball fans do Laker fans do that, you know, we have to operate under the rules of the collective bargaining agreement. Which means you can't just go and grab every player that you want. You have to to do things with a salary cap and plan your contracts and the timing the free agency and budget so that you can put the pieces together. So this will be a an important off season for us in regards to that plan. I would argue. You that it's the single most important off-season that this franchises had since Jeanie Buss has been the one in charge of the organization since they got LeBron. And now what's coming up next because you either cement what you did with LeBron and start the process of contending for champs again or you're a rudderless ship. And nobody knows what's going on. You know, she's anew tremendous amount of pressure. I think you, and I both spoken about the fact that she's arguing the most powerful women in all of sports because of her position with that franchise in this league. And with that comes at certain degree of responsibility in terms of history. You can't have the most powerful woman in all sports be awful. We are used to be an owner of the believe it was always Pittsburgh who was who was gay and I used to say all the time. Don't you come out? Team awful. We cannot have you be the pirates because the pirates out worst team at all of professional sports. We are family again. And then he sold the team if he came out. So I was like okay, we good now. Now now, you ain't reality. You came miss them a history like that bra you keep that incident alone five hundred when it comes to genie bus in her place in history. You don't wanna see a woman in charge of a franchise like this just wallow and failure. And so just just on straight up thinnest GP from me, I wanna see her succeed for that part of it. Then obviously, you want her also to be able to grow from performing shadow and right now, I much sooner father shuttle because of the lack of success. No. I obviously what you're talking about. Being the one of the only women owners and executives in position like this is a big deal. But I. I think that as important if not more. So is the fact that she's following up one of the not not just a great Laker owner. She's following in the footsteps of one of the greatest owners in professional sports history. Jerry, Buss changed the whole thing. Like, he he changed how the NBA was perceived. He made it about Showtime. He made it about an event much more. So than just a basketball game. He loved starpower he loves stars. He liked he understood how the whole package fits together. Other than just, hey, let's go find a center who can move. Let's guy. He understood the business of all of it. And he was great at delegating. He put really really smart people in charge of important things and said, go do your thing. And he picked the right people from coaches to exact just right on down the line. He really didn't miss very often. And none of these things have happened. Now. She's moved out. She's moved magic and all these things and she's talking about this off season this coming up. But I I am a little concern. Which is well, you know, it's not. Go out and grab every player that you want. That's not been the problem hasn't been that. They're buying everything. They see and it's not working. They can't they can't get to the window to order anything no-one. We'll let them by what they want other than LeBron. They've been shut out of this whole process. It's not that they're spending their money willy nilly. It's that no one's allowing them to give their money. That's the concerning going. You can go back to the buckle of the the markets all sort of you can certainly talk about the fact that guy's not even taking phone calls or meetings. Even though they're they're taking phone calls and meetings in LA sometimes from that house. Right. Staples Center say, nah, I'm busy. Kevin Durant where he did. He took the Celtics meeting out here. But anyway on fig you bought a staple center. I came make at her. That's tough. You bring up the Marcus Aldridge pitch, and how many years ago was this six six. Okay. And what was the issue with the pitch? What was the word analytics? Okay, analytic. And we just report yesterday. We didn't talk about that. Analytics Lakers are still behind still behind an analytics, and in this today's era and culture of a basketball with the analytics guys seeing what the warriors into Spurs do six years later, you telling me you're still behind. I mean when you look at all the things that has been reportedly wrong with the Lakers. Besides just the issue of health. You have questions about the strength and conditioning believe Brian win horse talked about him hearing people say is not very good. You have obviously the issue of analytics, you have the question of Luke's assistant coaches, and whether or not they were there to support him. Or whether or not they have experienced duo necessary to fill the gaps that he didn't necessarily feel those are two different things. Certainly it's been reported that magic wasn't happy with the team that he surround himself with. So when you begin to look at the infrastructure of the team beyond just a roster construction. You see a lot of questions popping up that needs to be answered as sees in addition to trying to secure a big free agent. It's win stuff starts had the same things or similar things. Start happening to a bunch of different people inside the organization, they if it just one guy limitless pick Lonzo because he's being if Lonzo just kept getting hurt. It's like, hey, you know, what's he doing? What's he doing? Or what isn't he doing? Why does? But when a bunch of guys keep breaking down, and it's not just one of those Lonzo it's Ingram. It's lebron. It's all these different guys. Then you can start saying what's going on over there. Not just with that guy or that guy. But what's going on? Why does that the example that I was come up with is look at the angels in their pitchers? Those guys drop like flies every year. It's like, it's not just one guy has some. Happen. It's year after year after year one guy after the next is going down with an arm issue. And you're like, what are you guys doing over there? And opposite of that would be the Phoenix Suns, which you show up a broken toy. And for some reason you get there and your healthiest healthier duration there. May shack was done just to Phoenix. And he's an all star. So just something they got something figured out. You mentioned Brian win horse. He has an idea that the Lakers are up to something that might not be great for their future. What it is next. I was just talking about Jill, Scott. Not too. My locks done. He knows we'd being real black. Okay. And we're talking about nipsy, of course, and other stuff. But then we moved onto Jill Scott. Happy birthday. Just gosh. She's forty seven today. And we're like, you know, the first CD when she's talking about cooking, Cada greens and grits and ham. Hawks and stuff are man. It was like, oh shoot. Yeah. Girl called and do it by a four CD, you still cooking and stuff. Jay, oh, girl. You get nothing else to say make the third CD's. I may peach cobbler, maybe she's just. Yes thing. But you're I mean, you remember the first CD was like on off. She in Maine, go and cooking, grease and stuff. Thirsty. Rena cookbook. No solve in the ones that rhyme in there. Ex- grease. Right. No saws girl birthday jail. Happy birthday, Jill Scott. So you were being extra black. How did you put that extra? What would be the Cleveland for me would be go to? And I'm going, oh, you know. I was listening on radio guys. How you doing today goes firm handshake? How was it to work with those guys not that bad? I get them a lot. But not for the reason that you might think. All the critics courts below five hundred. It's not quite that. It's other things that they wanna know about. You guys. All right momentum Bronwyn horse. So you said L Z that he mentioned that one of the things that he was here in his at the Laker training staff. Are they doing what they need to get done to make sure that their guys are healthy enough? He also is a question about whether or not genie bus running the Lakers. Like, a family is a good idea is they're going to be a scapegoat. At all. Is there have to be a scapegoat? Usually that happens when you have this kind of failure genie talked about how Phil Jackson regarded Luke Walton as a sensually, an honorary, son. He was as close to Luke as because he had them as a player. He and that permeates the way Jeannie looks at him. And that's one of the difficulties of running the Lakers Ekka family business like genie. Does her best friends are in the front office? She's incredibly close to Magic Johnson lifelong relationship there he talks about Luke Walton is a member of the family. Rob Pelinka was Kobi's agent. They at twenty year relationship there. The the difficulty is when you run a family business like this where you have everybody's so close. When there is blame to go around. How do you handle it? Like a family. Meaning what just because you family doesn't mean that you don't keep it one hundred. I it depends on the family. I I would assume. Yeah. I mean, we're ready. We're pretty honest in my family, and if your issues thanking we'll let you know because your family, so I wonder if I don't I don't know how it is. You know with your dynamic, but certainly my dynamic if if the trash wasn't being taken out, and it was piling up stinking being a family doesn't mean you don't mention the trash stinking. Joe you forgot trash because you can be honest with one another. So is he suggesting that their dynamic is the one where everyone just stick the head in the sand necessarily stick your head in Sanya, let the trash pile up. I don't I don't think it's one of those. But I think it's the I'll just take it into my own world that there's a difference between when it's somebody that's in your family. I'm giving a chance I'm gonna give them another chance. I'm gonna give them another chance. And then you've let two three four five different opportunities. Go by because you're loyal to your family member at the expense of the larger thing instead of saying, okay? Take out the trash eight get another chance take that. Eventually, it's a mess. And then it'll take it out once. But now, it's gonna pilot. You're just never make. You know, what this doesn't work get? Let's get somebody new that when a guy that I brought in off the street when it's just an employee of mine, and he doesn't get the trash out. I can say look we've been over this either do it or I'm gonna find somebody else who will do it for you. And I think that's what he's getting at. It's it's not just that. I'm not gonna tell you what I want. I'm gonna tell you what I want. I'm just not going to necessarily come in with a hammer and get rid of you. If you don't do what I need to do or at least not right away. Yes, rush. I didn't say anything. Let's go opera and Steve on the sprint people. Steve you're on the morning show. What's going on the way, I'm calling for my sprint? Apple phone. Just wanna let you guys know. Two things. I talk about the bus family running the Lakers, obviously, they were not trained in groomed. Say like the Mara family or the Rooney family, but the whole concentration was on. No running their team being in LA. I'm sure they had a lot of other interest in running the team, and when it comes to magic, and rob and other interest. Do you think maybe they just have too many interest other than running the Lakers? I mean magic as you know, his businesses magic as the dodgers, rob house. You know, other agents other businesses where you look like Jerry West and the clippers they're all about improving the clippers. I think magic has too many too much going on really run the Lakers the way that they should be rent. Minus ten that robbed a vested from agencies. Right. This is his this is his number one. And only right. This far as Ragas look this Magic Johnson have other interests. Sure, he does but sort of other guys, right? A lot of students that doesn't mean that you can't give your full attention and your best effort to whatever it is. You're doing at the top of that list. And look Magic Johnson is successful by any possible measure. However, you want to measure success magic has won that game a thousand times over the only reason he's doing this job because he wants it because he wants the Lakers to be successful. He wants to be the one to make them successful. So just think that he's coming in and putting his feet up on the desk. Like, hey, I'm magic I run the Lakers in this cool. And let me run my movie theaters in my business. No, that's not how mad magic doing this because he cares any wanted to work. Absolutely. He's a part owner. This is a man who still gets on a plane to go to his college basketball games tournament. He's a loyalist. He's pass. He wants says everything he touches. He's not gonna have stuff. The Laker franchise. No. That's for coffee. You don't get for coffee and movies. You don't get bought because you're do put my name on there. It doesn't work like that doesn't work like the dodgers down late again last night. No problem. This time will tell you next. Sometimes he's daddy. Just because Chris. Yeah. You don't hear this more Santa times on that often? You don't go. It was it was when they came back in the early ninety two it. Yeah. Unfortunately, we're doing the same dances though. Drone still bring up the mirror. I was like come on, man. You still care for more that dog they got a new Derome because they performed at the SP's after party. Really? Yeah. There's a new Jerome in wasn't the thing. It was like someone else around inside. Man. I'm tired of going to find on those what the original Jerome. Maybe he was a rat. We dealt with that on the show. Commit for second lead the mirror. I wanna talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. That was just bring the mayor that was every now, and then he would dance and you'll get a shutout dancing. Chris asked me to bring the mirror. For some reason Moore's like Saint his name and songs to drown. Hooking them up. He's front and center you put on your page. Mirror. Yeah. I would think I would put it on mine beyond as looking through. Damn it. I'm tired of caramel mirror. I had an appearance in purple rain. Follow up under the cherry, Melinda. The cherry moon. I was also co starred I came up co-starring under deteriorates like j what about this mirror Hoda? He sees experience. If only there was a guy that had to fix period only. Wait. I know. A follow to hear about our new feature which new feature the follow up. I said it. It's the follow up. No, one hit wonder what's their follow? Yeah. Like the woman who saying we spent literally the whole show on this. Mickey I'll make you Toni basil I was up in the mountains. Like you this weekend in Abbas listener that someone say gosh, I wonder what the heck her follow. It was. So there wasn't Chris. And I said, hey, remind me of the follow up. I got an idea she was really a cheerleader in life. And Joe I remember one time to Halloween in and Nailsea think she was a career cheerleader like she was a cheerleader in high school, and she used the same outfit from high school in the video make you one of those things are true. Look good. Tony. I do I do remember. I do remember basically if they were like a white one with hair eighties. You're not exactly I mean, that's a good jumping off point. But it's not say, no, you don't get excited now found that really didn't hit me. Yeah. But that's not the only reason I five to three last night. The final score. The dodgers beat the giants. Dodgers five and two home. Stand out of the chute does either hit another home run KiKi. Hernandez homered in all seven of their first games of the season. That's a record for the dodgers. I get it. It's seven games. They still got one hundred and fifty five left to play to hell start. What listen the stats wrong. We're not five and two. We're actually five. No, oh, Kelly's Owen too. Let's let's let's clear that up you're already turned on him. Well, you know, he might be a spy as a double agent. As a double agent. Just saying came from the Red Sox terrible, by the way. Terrible. All well. They start slowing then shit. I'm not worried about their one in five is different than the angels went in put it this way. No, listen, these could not have gotten to a better start, especially when you think about where we were a year ago a question whether or not this team was suffering from the World Series hangover whether or not we had already Pete in now the window. It was closing. We started off Owen to we couldn't score. This is definitely a nice sort of one eighty if you will to beginning of season. But it's too early to figure out what this is to quote, the great Keyshawn Johnson. Good start is a good start. But the one thing I think that will last and it's not because of the production at the plate. But as how he's at the plate is the patience of Cody Bellinger, Cody is not the same batter. He's not the same batter. I don't know. If it's just maturity because he'll soon be twenty four because of the new hitting coach Hanno is being exposed to j t after a couple of years, and you watching how he handles plate appearances. But he's not stepping up there and just trying to get a dog at the very first pitch. He's making guys he's hurting. He's working jets working counts. He's been far more patient than he has been through the early part of his look, this is the reason. And this is one of those things that you hear guys say you wanna bang your head on the desk because it's so cliche. But it's also incredibly true. Let's talk at the end of the year the numbers because in baseball even a week is an incredibly small sample that you can have a week where you're doing one thing. That's not what you do. And I I'm hopefully that Cody Bellinger has changed his approach. He's gone about it a different way. But the reasons they look let's talk about the the reason Mike trout is Mike trout and their other guys that have really good weeks or even months that might try. Does it pretty much every week over six months that it's more or less the same? Guys, like Bellinger little bit more, boom bust. I I like where he is. But I'm a little more reluctant to jump all in on him. What I do like with the statue. Well, I'll come and look at it while you build it. Okay. What I love with them o'clock in history. I'm oversee your work. One. I'm not making you build it. You build it. I'm just gonna come by and see your accomplishments. That's all we're encouraging. Yeah. Exactly. Your side of the situation. Brad, Pitt Mr.. The part of it that I do like is that they come out like last year after losing the Red Sox. They came out. And they look like a man we gotta go through one hundred sixty two more of these before we get another crack at it. And they didn't look, right. Any really didn't look right until towards the end of the season. They had little pockets where it was. Okay. But overall not so much this year, they came out from the John the Red Sox smoke them. They just they killed them. And so I think they came out this year with more we need to make use of this. We need to get ready for that end from the very beginning. Because they look like a different. This does not look like a guy a group of guys that have been to the World Series two years in a row and or just waiting for the playoffs to start. So they can try to go back third time. This looks like group that is going to run away with this division. You've seen to the other teams. The Padres aren't a great team that you know, women's the Padres. The we've seen Zona San Francisco. We haven't seen the rocket Rockies will be a pretty good team Padres. Probably not a great team. They're the best team in that division. They should win that division. Yes. Yes. They should. But we're not measuring our success anymore by division. No. We're not even mentioning more about pins. It's about the World Series. And whether or not we think we have all the pieces necessary. I'm still hoping that we can't tires because I do believe he's still available Mr. kaikal 'cause I believe in being greedy. And if he's just sitting in the house Chilin waiting for the phone rain, I say, call them up and give them a nut Nutting domico Casseus sort of situation here. We'll try you out for one year at this price. See what you do. And if nothing else you have an opportunity, maybe when the World Series another World Series ring, and such up for a long term deal because whatever you did last season clearly didn't impress the league. Maybe this giving up to t- to get that long-term deal. You're looking for. Yeah. I believe me adding him would be a bonus. But there we don't need it. They don't need it. I'm reading they're they're five and two and Clinton Kershaw hasn't pitched yet. And he's. Gonna come back. I don't think he's the guy. That's going to Richhill hasn't pitched yet that Ross stripling pitch last night. Okay. And pitched pretty well. He pitched into the seventh inning gave up six hits three runs. One guy had one bag inning. He Ross stripling one of those guys that we just kind of have. Oh, yeah. And then there str- restaurants could pitcher and he's your fifth guy that went Kershaw comes back. When Richhill comes back. Somebody is going to get pushed out of the bottom of that rotation. And maybe it stripling. Maybe it's your they put him back in the. But we'll see I mean, there's that's down the road, but they have a embarrassment of riches when it comes to starting pitching if they hit just enough and they've gotten more than just enough. They're tearing the cover off the ball. So really really good team. I I mean, it's a weekend. So who knows what it's going to look like. But at first glance, there's nobody in the National League that looks like watch the cubs last night against the Braves. Another one of those teams that you have to be in the mix there mess. I mean, I hear what you're saying. And I do think an east on paper are pitching's pretty sound. But. We've given up a lot of runs. I mean, we're focused in on runs being scored. But we've given up like what thirty five Ron's now in southern games. That's a lot of runs. So I hear you. I definitely hear you. But I'm also looking and I'm going, okay. Yeah. We beat the D bag behind but they scored twenty two runs on us. I mean, it's not like we were setting them out with outstanding pitching up here. Right. Come on come on rich, get back. It's all good. Okay. Dodgers go on the road for seven starting in Colorado. And then Saint Louis after that on right? This can't be right true. This can't be right. Dana white wants the UFC to be more civil. All right. That's coming up next.

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The Lady In White

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The Lady In White

"Well for nine episodes seven the Lindy in white such a gentle way of saying yeah. I'm Rob Southgate with me as Chris Mao. Hey Chris Kyra your back back after a brief illness my other Chris is back. Thanks again to Chris. dega deal for stepping in last weekend filling in for you did a great job. Great a chance to to listen. I been slowly covering yes busy. It slowly recovering. But are you feeling better. Yeah a little bit so getting better all all right cool well. It won't be too painful this tonight. I know you're not feeling great so let me just share this to our facebook page. If anybody's out there and wants to join us in discussion that that would be awesome. We are still working the kinks out. And I know there's only what two episodes left after this one of the regular show but we will definitely continue on with this in some capacity and we will have some live shows and things going on so it'd be who've us to get this all working it is streaming on on my facebook page. Go figure on that one but if you do see it and you want to share it you can shirt from wherever it pops up and other other people can then watch it on your page so there you go here. We're going to get disturbed on there so Chris as while I'm getting together initial thoughts. What'd you think of this episode? Oh you know what I. I think. It's a good setup for the last couple. I mean I think there were a lot of they covered a lot of ground A A lot of time jumping which I thought was cool I thought it was good. I think they're setting up for a really big last couple episodes and there was some meeting and this one so I i. I enjoyed it so I thought the hundred was You know a little bit kind of their then this one it was. You know they got more into what was happening. which was great? Did what did you think of the redemption. I'm going to jump right to their. What take the redemption of jingles? I you know I didn't know what to expect. I don't know how much redemption there's GonNa be. I I mean he's he's he's he is a great to say. Oh we had a normal life. But then he's he's like everybody. Alaska has some kind of issue. So is it really a redemption or is it him just furthering I think it was a redemption. I mean it's he turned into a good guy even though he murdered all these people and they keep bringing that up and he admits it freely but at the same time there is a redemption to him because he he sacrificed himself for the betterment of his son and we know we saw his not. I mean Do we know that's what she meant or is that something different. I mean couldn't have been the devil tell you this is what you need to do to to to to know right right. That could be but his intention what he was perceiving out of that was that That he was doing it for his son. Yes so I believe that he has redemption because he was believing that he was doing the right thing. He made a sacrifice for his son and with the intention of doing the right thing sure so whether she was lying or not I actually got the impression she was lying. She was trying to manipulate him. I think so too. I don't know why he did that other than you know. He's just GonNa you know now that he had an Roskilde over over his brother. Well sure He had enormous guilt over killing all those people and in his mind all needed. was that nudge. Like hey if you take your own life life it's better for your son. And he was like it is and then. He started talking to bobby at the water. which was crazy because I fully expected like poverty to come under? Yeah me too. Didn't you like total Friday the thirteenth moment. And it'd be like Bobby. Hey what John Well. There were a couple of things in here when with Brooke was put the dots this episode right. I'm sorry I'm kind of combining Brooke was put to death in this episode right now British. I put to death in a last episode and then we see her being we radar saved her at the very end at the very end at the very end the last one. That's on this one because I thought that was going to be a tie in with. I thought that was gonna be like Cordelia or something The way the body shape was so so I I visit last time so I mean you know and their relationship. Why would she I mean were they get captured by with up by Dylan McDermott? Yes the Dylan. McDermott mic Maruni Avocado. They're all the the mustache will glory. Amen I mean men Morrison's even got worse. I mean that's his groomed like adult must. It's it's awful it's awful. The porn stash is great but yeah it's so great but don't McDermott was. That was. That was the best and the way she got her revenge. Like the whole thing would he was. He was there at the thing you saw. Did you catch you. Sit in the background. And I'm like I didn't realize it was him just like the mustache I saw thought exactly. I'm like Oh my God see I didn't see it was him. I just was like deck is GONNA be trouble and nobody got up close. I'm like debts Dylan McDermott. That is amazing and here when he got in the car the whole time. You're like yeah. This is a good did. They showed the the wanted. Sign your lighter so this guy is a serial killer right and he's like the hitch her though. Yeah it was very tighter up. And he's like you have to go and you're gonNA tear off all her skin the bones are going to grind and you're like Oh my God it and I knew of course she was going to back. I knew what was GONNA happen. She's going to back up but I didn't see how she was going to play that out when she when she went over her. I was like that was great. It just reminded me the hitter or like in Grind House the Tarantino One It kind of reminded me of that but it was especially the Hitler got me. There was a little bit like that but I mean you know people to pick up on side of the road. It would only be better if they would've picked up Ramirez and jingles tells. You guys aren't GonNa do. What do you like what what what are you doing? But I I think the whole thing with Brooke was awesome. Because here's somebody who she didn't give a hell because she's I mean I I was watching it with the molly watched her first American horror story tonight watching this one. She was on with her. She was like this most of the time. Yes she did watch it. It was funny because like in that scene scene I was explaining to our like look. She was put to death as far as she knew she was dead right. She is going back to the camp. Ah to break it up right. She doesn't care so this guy is like threaten your wife. It's like what an exactly through hell and back and how her revenge on it. Yeah cousins thumbs off the top of the stumps which is like your your. Today's a hitchhiker grover. That's amazing amazing. Yeah Yeah it was. That whole segment was really great. I I thought this was one of the stellar episode. Sure season actually and you'll anymore cricket. I mean come on. Because they're all courtney his name's cody. I know but it is that Elton John and he walked out. Its the willow is what it is. That's he rip Taylor roof to hello. I was waiting for somebody you walked. I got not everybody some treats. Oh my God. They're all dead. I love him so much that that that scarf around his neck. He's the hands of the hair. I'm like could you just put him in all the total like that. You're like the jacket with the two pins on the lapel because you got wants to be that rock and roll just like it was so Dushi so do she was great just cringing. It was great eight. The Guy Taking the pictures walking around like I turned the Catholic and I said You know I completely rock that look in the late eighty please. Well well no I thought when I saw cricket I thought that was you and then it's like oh no no. Chris is a lot bigger. Yeah about ten feet taller than him. So okay I got I got I gotTa talk about. We can't even like be coherent this episode. Because there's just so much fun stuff Khajah Google was at this it when they show the poster. You see billy idol. And then I'm looking at it like it's Goo Goo it. It doesn't even matter conjugal. Get this guy who has the hair or I if you look up I showed molly of video of too shy. It's the hair. Look just like employer. Oh yeah well what he goes to where they go into like. Are you gonNA play too shy. He's like that's all we play. Well what about never ending story now. That was my Solo Career The bandwagon play it. I mean the number one. The band broke up by the time he did never ending story. So right right so they never would have toured like this Oh you know this wasn't going to happen like this but it's fantastic. The better part was the implication that would Ramirez is like you. You made a deal with the devil so too shy was his deal with the devil. Yes I was I was dying. I was absolutely died. And then the whole band get slaughtered. God why if they ahead billy idol on yet I would wait. I thought the bus full of like yes. We're GONNA get to see billy idol eight thousand years old so seriously seriously. They got to put the real billy idol on if they don't it's going to be an error and even if you just have him as like the Rhody for Billy Idol uh-huh because he's older Billy's govern the guy who's like their manager is somebody like a rock and roll guy and I can't think of who it is Casa manager because remember they walk into like. We got the talents and then Kazakh comes out. I don't remember who that was all all all right. I'm looking it up. See if I can't get it on this one It's Ryan Gosling. Conjugal thing was just brilliant. The lifestyle rich and famous when I started seeing that was that was last week. You're saying that that that whole thing with this. This is just fantastic. So Oh oh the yeah the lifestyle. That was all excellent. That was hilarious. I mean this this season. If you're if you grew up in that time this is hitting this is running on all cylinders and I was a little afraid I thought okay. It's going to be like the first episode. I enjoyed a lot but I'm like were in the middle of Friday the thirteenth. It's going to be ten weeks of Friday the thirteenth and I was like okay. Well maybe it's going to be a lot of references which it is but I'm totally really into it. I think this is so well done the fact that now we realize this is a ghost story it is yes. I'm I'm into it here. We go the tour manager was Paul Rogan. I don't know if he's anybody and I'm sure he's somebody but I've seen him before. I thought he was real rock and roll guy. Yeah he's on the Orville I don't know if he could be super store. I don't see him being a rock and roll guy. I don't know I've see. I know I recognize. Yeah Yeah can we get you in this game. The thrones you deal. How can you throw your guys bone and put them in the springtime in as extras as possible? Okay let's go back to the beginning it starts out nineteen forty eight. You see the campus a different name. Yes and right away lily I mean Yeah Ah excited when I saw it apart. Yeah what apart and I love the interaction. We see jingles kid. What casting? I knew that was jingles in two seconds later and it wasn't just because he was bigger I that was jingle right. Yeah absolutely and the death of bobby was Hor horrific. Well I could barely watch that of all the data stuff you just do. It was coming it was I know. Oh it's like you know he's playing the lawnmowers going. You know the kids get a fall in front of a lawn mower. Die Almost drowned a couple times when I was younger her so I never really liked that. I like to swim that much now so I always have this fear of water but I just get uneasy so when he was out there swimming and he went under water like a a no no like that that he comes up and I'm like okay with soon as he started that motor. I was like this is my worst nightmare that you're going could get under there and it's GonNa just cut your throat or some. I'm so scared of that. So that to me was Hor- riff Iq. which was was great? I mean it was what you wanted. I WANNA be scared when I watched the show. I've never really scared to just have fun with it. This I was uneasy scared I was like what is going went on. And then the terror. When she came out she was just ripped apart? The bobby was dead. And she's so awful to jingles. Yeah you know. We've got to see how jingles got his limp grown August. Not GonNA come out of the water. Why has the blood was spilled everyday? Yep The blood ritual happen after he died. But it's interesting. That jingles is the reason for the blood ritual or the blood curse yes. He stabbed his mother other than that blood soaked into the ground. And that's what caused the blood curse traps all those ghost there so I think we're going to have big ghost. I don't know if that's that's the point. That is that what happened. Or when she saw that he was happy that when she got so mad that she cursed him. You know what I mean like. That isn't Happy Waco like she the blood spilled and maybe she was cursed out. She was already trapped there. No no I understand that but like that everyone else was trapped because she spoke in some Margaret Ear. And I don't think that's it. I think the curse happened when her blood one spilled on there she was the only one that was dead from that point on until that night. When she she gave Margaret a push she said Margaret's? It's not right right. She said she said Margaret's already got some scrambled eggs. Going on up there. It was she gave her the push rush. She put the idea in her head but the curse was already. It was when he stabbed her that. That was the blood curse. I'm telling you it's soaked into the ground and it. It cursed the land. SCHERF serve but she also said Chris says it was the curse was built on her rage and heartache. Yeah he's thinking. It was done when bobby was killed. I I think it was when she got stabbed though. It wouldn't have happened till she got stabbed. But I don't even think it manifested itself. Until she saw jingles goals be happy with Margaret and then she just got mad that he's there that he that he actually has enjoying his life in this happy so she wanted him. And that's what you're thinking that's where the actual Kerr slap it. Cursing kept everybody there that died there could be because it did it. Answer the question this one. Where all the people that died there running around because all we? Yeah we now. Last week we saw bunch of the older people but this week left. When I was talking to Chris I brought up? We didn't see those people that dress up like jingles. We got him and I got up tonight. So they're all hanging out there. But there's nobody from the forties because she it was the only one that died at that point sir. She was cursed on the land. Maybe the blood curse didn't happen until she caused occurs later. So you might be right off of it. I mean. I don't say it's here. They're I mean obviously. She stuck around as a ghost because she was pissed off. And so then you know she just you know what A. What a terrific Bob? Well it definitely had a Jason Voorhees feel she was definitely or if you remember spoiler in the first one she The MOM was the killer and in this when she killed all those kids or the counselors and even even the see the sex scene in the woods. I'm like this is so out of the right when that happened. It definitely had that full vibe. Him stabbing her was the difference. Yeah we'll deserve. Chris just brought up and I think that's a good point about him killing the counselors and all that stuff but we haven't seen them floating floating around the camp yet. So I mean if we see them I mean it's obvious that That hurt that she caused this curse that keeps all the people that die there it just I guess when it is in effect because it seemed like she made appoint to talk about how she saw that jingles was happy and and Blah Blah Blah. And that's when you know he he whispered in her she whispered in her ear. So what is going on here Chris. She killed happened when she got stabbed. Butter jingles is what caused her to carry one hundred children and revenge on the lifeguard in the form of counselor. So that's what I think totally is right. You said no but we don't see them but we did. We saw she. Nobody died there right after she died right until the Kelly open she died. And then Margaret killed everybody. Those counselors are there. WE SAGA NO I. You might be right because the MA mother doesn't die until after those counselors are dead. So maybe right goes isn't going to be around. Bobby's ghost isn't theory. So but that's why everybody else has been killed there is popping up is giving pop up. Maybe there were. She died there. She did as the house band for the ghost. I hope so. Now they're gonNA play is the same. Sorry not the way too shy. That's it the whole band. The whole band will be there in the next episode. There'd be like really headed today with this band. Yeah no kidding. Uh Dyed with Queen whose Billy Philly idol has some has died with billy idol. The Deborah Daddy wrote the dead need entertainment Montana's four. Yeah they do but why do they have to shy. Oh shot to shine. It's not you you tell me. It's like Tiffany is on the bill. I can't even think of who it is but all right I'm going to try and look it up here. I was GONNA get to the Internet. But but Papa Camp Red would music fast light up. Let's see if it tells us here. Somebody put together No that's actually. There's actually a camp redwood one with all these bands is is hot. Yeah no that's not what we want. let's do this American Horror Story Music Festival. They say what it was another great eighties band. I'm GONNA create a playlist when we figure out what bands around this. I'm going to create a playlist on spotify of the bands. All right. Let's see songs. No Camp Road would food and music festival. Okay I'm GONNA try that. That's the name of the Music Festival Food and Music Festival. If it doesn't have it it's going to be going back and looking at it on the actual show trying to decipher it from that. He said do Camp Goldstar. No I found the thing on their link. It's nineteen eighty-nine Camp Redwood Food and Music Festival nope it doesn't say so we're going to have to put our all wait here are we go. Dempsey's been night. Runners get out without hats admitted without heads although through the whole thing. These these are the bands that are on this. Hey Go see this. I think or of course we've got featured billy idol flock of seagulls Get goes with. Belinda Carlisle. Because remember she had done her solo stuff at that point Debbie Gibson yes. dexia has been night runners. Codger do men without hats safety in. y'All yeah Rick Springfield Paul Shaffer. Oh get out of here. Toni Basil Tops Twins and Gary Numan. Hey that's that'd be dry. I went to this music festival. I saw three of these bands a couple of years ago at Vigna seriously right in an eighties thing. It was great. Yeah totally. Keep it as we're GONNA make a playlist on spotify. Those come on come on. I lean a great bad eighty nine. Oh Yeah I love. That song is by awesome. That's on my all time. Eighty cents that pick on me. That's it you're it come on Irene. There's also that really great version by the band save ferris ever. Here is good. Yeah the version ought Soga. I like in the making of that video. He literally the guy who runs it so neurotic. He fired like three. The band members during the video. Shoot because he didn't like the way the guy was acting. It just said you're out get out you're not here for your night here the Second Act. Oh No we had to join casual Goo Goo got killed that's hilarious. Oh my gosh I mean these guys I mean and he had a couple of a couple of good songs. Texas midnight runners when they they did they had a good data come. Eileen the song that matters yeah but they had a couple of other Jason James. If they're really great song we we listen to their album. Yeah but laid is the only song really like play it. Yeah that's why we're there on jools Holland. Every once in a while they were on a few times back back the day they were good. Yeah Love Jewel silent. That's a great show. Yeah I do not know. It's all right. It's a track so off US off track. That doesn't sound like no kidding. So so what else happened in this episode so we had a flashback. We had the amazingly rape take a ghost haunting the goes. Yes and not anymore dochas. JINGLES IS GONNA run jingles is going to run things now. You know. That's out in No he he's like Brooke he's got nothing to lose it right point. Although he's he's not going to be afraid of his bobby it'd be like you're pretty much toast now. So this rate was it. When when the three guys dresses jingles were beating the crap out of him? Yeah like dude. This is Jay Gulf. He killed us in. That was fantastic. I think their first three kills ever truthfully. Yeah no no no did he kill somebody. He killed the guard. Yeah he did no he did he kill the guards. He did so strangled. The guard two three and four but they're number one in our hearts is first kills at Redwood. We'll know did he kill the the little guy the young guy or not I think Ramirez killed him didn't he which I thought he looked the guy that was peeing live because he felt bad. Ed for the knee. I don't remember I don't remember. Don't sleep on Rick Rick Springfield might be hanging around the camp. Anyway there isn't he. He's dead Oh I feel bad you know what Kasha Google could make a reappearance. I mean we said the band but that after shop with at hair again and just hanging out there. I'm waiting for that last episode when they're like really you're going to play too shy again. No Chet and Xavier killed what the jingles guy. The kid yelled wide load. Why vote yeah? They killed wide load. So why does that kill jingles. Gigolo floyd have laid knocked him into the pit jingles killed the other two jingles guys. They deserve they deserve it. I loved it the next episode. They're like there's always a final girl in urine. Oh final we call it from the beginning that she's final girl but the way this is playing out they're going to twist that guarantee it work doesn't care I wa- I did court and he's going to be the final girl Ono. They're all dead but I live. I'm changing my name to cricket and I'm going to go through high kick her. Yeah Courtney I'm going to become a sack. Is that going to be the Tien Dobie grey. Oh the whole thing is about cricket for me. I'll cricket all the time. He started a phone on already going to be great. It's going to be huge. Yeah Cricket Chris what. They don't deserve to impersonate creek. Connive jingles Yes yes cricket and I would also like to point out that my impression of crooked is not bad impressions are usually pretty terrible. My impression of cricket is not Ed and that is purely an impression of built on love his eye leslie jurors just the best literally. I Peterson or Evan Hander. Whenever of Impunity Dando I love him by? It's all about Leslie Jordan. No you love more than let's Jordan. Yeah you Dennis Dennis O'hare come on. Oh nope nope not war here. Cricket cricket a great deal ever come on that was fantastic. Thicke Denis O'hare five stars actually just keep bringing them back I love them all I love all little was so great to see in this and was good in it fuller onto just the few scenes just I mean really playing a like crazy a bitch to use the word. I mean just yell and rightfully so being upset but like way over the top. She was doing though. Yeah it was great. She had a really bad ugly face. It was really it was really good. It was horrible I do. That's not the best you know. Look for her but right and yes Chris. I believe that Yes McDermott was supposed to be the highway Strangler Dave that what is day one yes up I WANNA be a most hit Richard Ramirez by the end of the year. It's like come on. Yeah I I think that's what he was supposed to be and I would not be surprised if we don't get some kind of Zodiac reference at some point camp so we probably will there almost up to his right at that same same time so I would have figured we would have got what about hurts. I mean and I know this might be the last episode to Her Talk About Servant ice cream at John. winky's house ah just throw that out. You know that plot of land up for sale again is oh yeah. Yeah Yep Yep Yeah Yeah I you know what Chris I think you should buy it. Yeah exactly I. I'm sure there's a couple of times it's it's got that Juju fuck. That Burton was tortured. Saviors hanging out there. He's by. The bed was Georgia should by the beds shorts awards just the bad. How did we survive? Eighties it's awful. Oh my God bone with Xavier Walking taking jiggles out there. volley goes. He's got really weird. Shorts does but nothing's weirder than the kid at the beginning in nineteen forty eight ought to walk up to talk to Leslie Arabe. Oh Yeah did you notice that kids shorts. Yeah like what is awful this So good those need to meet it. But David David amateur thing isn't dead either so yeah well nobody he might. What if he chases them in there and gets killed and now he's stuck in? It'll be thumb Louis though be great totting. Raise freaking out. They are calling him Fonzie. He'd be like stop it. It hurts. I don't call me Fonzie. I can't give thumbs up the phones. It's awful I don't I I mean I I love it I mean I think this is just a blast it is amendment absolute blast with it so I really I really like cody firms acting. I think he's actually doing a really good job beginning horrendous and then it's like no you actually have to act to be this bad. So Yeah No. He's he's he's no okay down here. He's doing amazing and you should follow him. I follow him on Instagram and he posted a lot of behind the scenes. And they're all great like he knows. Exactly how do she savior is. Yeah so he gets just really like the perfect shots and you're just like it's so funny you don't think they although you don't think billy Lord it is just like she's gotTa be just dying just dying and I think they all are. How Fun is this? Yeah so how about the scene. The hotel when the lady comes out the door Richard Ramirez. He goes your friends and she's like no. I am German the last episode. But you're just stuck in. I told you I watch them both today because I was sick. So you talk about all the Fundus of that last last one had got some classic but this was good. So be kind rewind. Hey that's a great Sage put that on T. shirt. Hey Kristie a message there. I know they're big shoes. Affiliate I got big feet. Unfortunately but thank you you know what they say. Big Big feet. Big Boxes oxes goes no they don't. I don't confirm that that is negative. And that's because I'm a fat. That's all right. I want you to give your social media Chris. Absolutely it can be found at blue-box cafe or blue-box cafe one seven six social media also geeks kind with the Z.. Cause a little and I are hip hop and if you want to support the show you go to our website go to South Gate Media Group Dot Com and you can go to the disturbed pager actually any page. 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Yeah we have we appreciate it all guys thank you very much. Thanks for taking my love this. We're going to keep doing it. We are not done. This was such a short season and I feel like we're just this catching steelers. Oh well we're finally finally eight to say we finally done it every week. which is Great? And we didn't Peter out at the end. 'cause life didn't throw us this monkey wrenches haven't so it's been great and I hope we can continue to do it. It's a show is back this week in Geek is back and this has been working out. We do this week and then after an hour that we go right into this. It's working out beautifully. So you know what I plan on keeping it going. I don't know what we're GONNA I do but we're gonNA keep it going. We'll do something we can go back over old stuff we we actually have a lot of stuff to go. We have one eight episodes gotta make up for and then we have seasons. We haven't done and then we could always like go into some of the other shows that are like there are some really good horror shows out there we could just pick one and do the same kind of thing with it until the tenth season starts. What's up exactly so how many more we're left? We know two two two weeks. This nineteen eighty-four party is over over but this party disturbed is far from. I saw. They were talking to you. Have some ideas. They didn't really go into it very much. An article that said if he the own right. VM ideas about the next season. So that'll be actually. It was supposed to end at ten but now he's saying I think it's two two more and then there's article I think. I shared this week that he said he's actually mapping out to twenty twenty seasons for what it's like. Well he's he's like I could easily make this keep going. It's you know what I've got ideas. Were trying to filter it down. But if they're gonNA give us the the room to work with it we're we're gonNA keep building these things. I don't know if I need twenty seasons. I like you know ended at ten ended at eleven even though I love the show. Leave it where it's this quality pretty sure and then give me something else in other words a cricket spend we bring Glee back. I never watched the first two seasons. I I actually didn't mind it. It was low it was just enjoyable. It was a fun watch cloud GLIAC. We're we're from the age of. I like people that are on it. Yeah they were good. They were talented. It was it was it was like you. Want Your Glee Watch flashing supergirl. That's what's clearly. Weren't they on Glee. Both of them. They were both were so low P it feels like if he has to who was what Matthew Morrison. Because you don't really yeah. He was the teacher excellent. Well let me because I think they brought in What's her name the one to play the coach John Glee? Oh my gosh she any of that. That would be great but she would be she with Russia on this this show when they do the witch season next season they should make her an opposing force. Oh my God it bring. Oh my God there's a Freebie idea for you. I don't know if she still does stuff with them. But Yeah I just Miss Basil. She was great on there. Yeah and she was joker to while the other was in joker What's her name? I can't think of it one annex. What reveal why loses his mom from from ABC joker? Oh God his mom is who is the red hair covering lady the older one with the red air. Oh I can't think you're God I've drawn income even thinking a great character name. I'm tired yeah let's get Outta here. Alright

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Madonna: Music as Sex and Sex as Power in the Reign of the Queen of Pop

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45:38 min | 10 months ago

Madonna: Music as Sex and Sex as Power in the Reign of the Queen of Pop

"This is Julie Rieger author of the goes photographer and Co host of insider's guide to the other side and I'm Brenda now to have written a book but Julie's Book and you are the most gifted so I could on the planet listen to insiders guide to the other side intense expression an icon status on this episode sex controversy brief cheerleader cheese and Madonna I'm Jay Brennan in this Scripps Land So poor that it immediately smacks of surveillance footage Madonna nineteen years old is lying on the floor of downtown diner she's just been raped she katie couric on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts bobbing mumbling frantic scared nonsensical she can taste fear in her mouth Adrenalin her breasts is exposed she's wearing all white I'm Katie couric and I'm back with my new podcast next question with Katie couric yeah that's me this season we're tackling the video is grainy owner will get unexpected insight from people you think you know like singer-songwriter Andy Grammer I've got a ton of questions like how a white supremacist she was targeted by the Vatican for performances in nearly arrested in front of fifty thousand people for simulating masturbation she repeatedly pushed her African others Madonna obliterated mainstream attitudes about sex refuse to be slut shamed pushed herself creatively right up to the limits of the stories about Madonna are insane she's one of the most daring explosive artists of all time she was raped at an early age law she was a megawatt star who would not be dimmed not by critics not by knife-wielding maniacs and certainly not by hotheaded McKee danced and began to slowly but powerfully push yourself into American consciousness a small step that would lead to scandal controversy has been radicalized online when and how did vaping become an epidemic wire so many people into East sports next question aims to make sense Komo nurse assists along the way she made great music some of the greatest pop music ever made that music I played you at the top of the show I can't afford the rights to Mickey by Toni Basil and why would I play you that specific slice of choreographed cheerleader cheese could I afford it because disgrace land is a production of iheartradio in double Elvis media a quick warning for those affected by depictions of physical and sexual abuse this episode that wasn't great music that was a preset loop from my mellow tron called mellow push push 'em K.. One I played you that loop because in some cutting edge trance like CBD why does actress Kristen Bell Ticket we'll talk to big names doing big things in new spaces like Jennifer so through her are using it as a weapon to fight off abusive directors to overcome overbearing producers to outrun breathless Paparazzi into outlast alias Burke complicated an ever changing world one question at a time I look forward to figuring this all out together listen to next question that was the number one song in America on December Sixteenth nineteen eighty two and that was the day Madonna stage for the first time at New York City's they stretch pants and an oversized men's button-down shirt that she borrowed from her boyfriend who is comforting her he just made the scene around him. The number of rest unluck Madonna cries Madonna moans Madonna rise on the sticky tile floor her boyfriend swears vanish it's brought onlookers grows to a small Gago there no doubt hardened by their city but not so jaded that a freshly raped teenage girl lying on the floor doesn't warrant a curious read one of the many urban storms swell up daily Manhattan stirred by violence stifled by cynicism Madonna is in a familiar position the center in the late seventies and early eighties was a beautiful mess Reggie Jackson Jimmy Breslin garbage strikes the son of Sam Bronx on fire Punk Rock Street Art Mark She was raped for real held with a knife to her throat on a steaming hot Manhattan roof enforced into performing fellatio most raped combination of hustle timing and expression three things Madonna was a no short supply of not to mention talent does the undeniable force of nature she knew she was was she knew the world would see two Someday York City Madonna's New York City be for real expression real art transcendence an opportunity to express herself push past her own limits achieve true artistry stand the storm a position she seeks a position she craves a position she pushes herself into even in this moment dot is a raped woman but as an actress victims would understandably not want to relive their trauma on film Amir year later but for a hungry artists like Madonna this was an opportunity an opportunity invading highbrow galleries the advent of hip hop and cheap rents it all felt like an explosion of creativity place in a time nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty three years before Madonna would become a star in decades before Madonna would confirm to Harper's bazaar that inner first year in New York overnight at least that's how it seemed for those who knew Madonna at the time but stardom doesn't happen overnight for anyone it's forcing made it to Manhattan from suburban Detroit Nineteen Seventy eight growing up working class Catholic Rochester Michigan But New York City it's merry go round act grandmaster flash and the furious five it was a rock and roll crowd and flash to them anyway scratching records with Suede Kangol on under his headphones absent any playing a raped woman the part was her first from the independent film a certain sacrifice shot guerrilla style around the city across the it was a place for one day you're just another face in the crowd at Max's Kansas City or CBGB's with the right timing be discovered made famous lucky star seemingly or culture shifty music and art was conceived and Madonna was there affected by all blondie Basquiat hearing FAB five Freddy Andy Warhol clash were on Stage Bonds International Casino in between songs Joe Stromer was chastising the Times Square crowd for the less than warm welcome they'd given the opening Madonna was disciplined Hungary some would say desperate but that wrap was ridiculous best sexists that worst one man's discipline is another man's desperation on at bond's a stretch that started out as eight shows but after greedy promoters oversold the venue the band had righteously agreed to keep playing shows until hills both of class every ticket was honored for their fans it resulted in a month long residency with a mind boggling run of openers including the dead Kennedys crowd the fall of becoming a singing sensation and then and actress a modern Marilyn Monroe by way of downtown sheep but you could actually act her right or killed by the city treated Madonna Louise Tacona no different the roots of Madonna's creativity version homework ethos or well established if Madonna were man with her career origins be seen as desperate probably not she saw what she wanted and there was nothing there was no one who's going to hold her back from her gold music scene while dating one of the youngest coolest most talented rising visual artists of time would have held on tried to make the relationship work out John Live instruments on stage might as well have been an alien Joe's drummer the clash frontman wasn't having it Madonna and the crowd that night thought Joe is decidedly more attractive when he was angry when he was strumming but still nowhere near as attractive as clash basis Paulson who let Madonna and her two friends sneak in through the a store just as he'd done for countless other seemingly anonymous fans who show up without a ticket the classroom in the middle of the now famous seventeen night eight of characters helped Madonna Turner essence to the iconic image that turn the world on in New York City at the time was one big come on how far could you push you're not to mention countless punk Rock Dance Club kids moving to the rhythm of New York's Paulsen crime grime at Trysofi it's shaped Madonna fuel the Madonna Shen off-putting as it was too powerful men in the music business at the time was part of a termed legions of young women who would constitute or early fan base by the occur no joke but not Madonna drugs weren't received saw Michelle Basquiat was out Donna dumped pushed on it was bridge and tunnel Betty Boop by way of Midwestern adolescence it was decidedly on cool not of New York non-regional its own thing world all of this is on display in her first single they hit the billboard top ten borderline it's a little too seriously but Madonna seemed to treat it all with the mischievous wink nod free-spirited Catholic next door to those just outside as a result it was a thing that along with their humor and confidence in her looks turn most men on in this outsider status made her supremely relatable far the most interesting. She wasn't the stunning Debbie Harry the suicide blonde crushing studied hearts from the stage seabees and she wasn't the beautiful beyond rail thin perfect body and in manners if Madonna's imperfect looks didn't betray her outsider status thinner accents certainly did Madonna didn't have a ticket she pushed away when she made the scene she took note the frumpy at devastatingly cool Shamu show basket visionary iconic I'm excited about where it's all going the single was Madonna's first big come on her flirtatious glance across the bar her nonchalant doc to teenage girls and marginalized gay kids Madonna immersed herself the growing dance club scene at the Eighties Manhattan and club Culture Nikolai ability at a time when mail record executives expected female singing stars at least the ones who they wanted to top charts to be the perfect image of femininity fully committed to the promise of the unknown the feeling is similar to the beginnings of any great relationship you feel comfortable and safe while at the same time was smitten Sean Penn was on the dance floor whose electric the casual touch from her hand pushing in the whisper in your ear keep pushing the mischievous laugh fucking around he was going to shoot him down `Paparazzi parasites vultures circling their Malibu home on his Madonna's wedding day the Catholic school girl in trouble and perhaps more important she flaunted vulnerability she willfully exposed to round belly treated it as an asset as opposed to bad brains and Lee Scratch Perry the clashes generous attitude toward the fans extended beyond the ticket holders to the point of just letting whoever showed up it's hard for me to explain the greatness appeal of Madonna's borderline the opening notes on the electric piano got me every time I hear them it's a sin rubber bracelets necklaces Nash Hashes she exuded mischief sensuality sex she wasn't the most beautiful girl in the car but she was heart melting smile pout the abandoned the control a total turn ons Madonna had made a pass in America in America days in the Philippines when he was filming apocalypse now experiencing a very real alcoholic meltdown and using it as fuel vers performance on a set drowning cocaine classic street artist who is in the midst of becoming one of the most sought after gallery artists in the world a year later with a star in even more intense ascent he madonna we in a way it means the New York City doesn't quit ever it pushes itself into every pore of your being until you become are expelled. John's Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez looked bored so did TOM CRUISE INSERTED Andy Warhol but Andy always looked poured into him Charlie Emilio and Tom Look good he was on to something else her style was her own leather and laze fashion manifestos the version Hornbeck Kadhamy she playfully tinkered with part vintage punk time Madonna recorded her first singles everybody and burning up she was equally entrenched in downtown punk and dance club culture to seeings took enough to keep his mind occupied while Sean Madonna sorted out the helicopter thing where the fuck was the shotgun Schon gave up and settled on dispatching a friend Tom in endless tests of her so far bottomless appetite for attention but in the moment pretty damn funny and if she were being honest with herself totally exciting here's Sean and Madonna proclaimed a deep love for one another it was the reason she found it funny and the reason he couldn't stand it at least in that way they bounced each other's intensity liberty in this case as he was in all cases what the hell was all that about is exactly what America would be saying about the marriage that began that day until the day dissolved inevitable snap like an actual shell shocked Vietnam vet instead of the actor famously played one in the epic war film additionally Martin Sheen Orbit Fans in particular it seemed like Madonna was always in on the joke that you'd never quite get but that compelled you WanNa know more about it with an armful Rockin was missing an house sean was Manic Madonna was laughing as usual it was all a joke annoying yes possible harbinger of what her life would be bull childlike sound and melancholic melody that looks back to the seventies and then be comes in and all of a sudden you're a new decade onto something fresh etched into the sand on the beach below his home in giant twenty five foot letters faulk you as a silent scream at the vulture photographers circling above rich and famous as he and Madonna could even have the helicopters would drown out the sound of the ceremony making it impossible to here was the reason everyone was there in the first place culture that celebrated in flaunted sex was as big an influence on Madonna is downtown pond her sexuality was hers to play with and she was unafraid to share it with the convinced together eventually get strung out on heroin most people in her position a twenty five year old struggling to make her own center in downtown art was arrested on the island for dangling photographer over a balcony she wasn't surprised she might have even liked it a little she was surprised however to learn role and ended up having a heart attack on set for his efforts and at the moment in Sean Penn's backyard it looked like he might be having another one either that or like other Shanghai surprise as Madonna suspected their union have become a nonstop test of endurance against a swarm of Paparazzi. When Sean Earshot as slinging drinks from the bar against the Tiriac frightening young love struck post punk adolescents and the awkward silence she was Madonna Madonna for her part entered into it with clear is about their chances she understood when to like minded volatile artists got together that they could either spur each other held firm she was undaunted by the more experienced more successful man sitting in the producer's chair and she insisted on recording the track it goes it didn't come easy? Madonna had a staredown veteran hitmaker now rogers who is producing the album he didn't believe in the song thought it was a novelty bit Madonna Madonna pushed herself in the mainstream American consciousness she was a megawatts star and nothing was going to dimmer shine not even leaked nude Madonna laughed she looked great on white with her black top hat. What the hell was that about handiwork wondered or hall was insightful about Salon Angel into the groove dress you up all cracking the billboard top five every single over half of the nine track album was a stone cold hit unlike Sean Penn Madonna could handle the exposure no shame no pain virgin whore what's the difference in the end we all sink beneath brought in and produced a tight sounding monster like virgin became a massive smash Madonna's first number one hit followed immediately by material girl early like the grains of sand that made up the giant fuck you on the beach for the four years in between Sean Madonna's marriage was a straight up tidal wave relation and she crushed it her movie career took off with the success of desperately seeking Susan Henner third album true blue dedicated to Sean Penn greatness or flame out in epic fashion a year after the big fuck you in the sand they're on the island in Macau filming a movie we'll be right back after this word Word Word WanNa talk to you about best fees best the fiasco and bombing of Shanghai surprise was a loss on Sean Penn's turf the movie Biz Madonna the musician she was in the middle of an new extremes and among the two stars at the time it was Madonna who truly transcended from the top of her craft global icon they inevitably but amicably the papers Sean Penn would not get less volatile when they were back home if the pension coney marriage was meant to push to artists new heights the Sun Madonna pushed on she owned live aid performing alongside titans of the music industry at the time from Eric Clapton Mick Jagger to patty the iheartradio APP apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast was next Brando next Pacino types that come along every decade or so to him the helicopters were big fucking problem there were the kind of problem only power couple has cheated replaced harvey cartel who according to Manic Director Francis Ford Coppola didn't have the acting chops so Martin Sheen poured himself into the four she became a true pop icon the in on the joke virgin whore axe she had developed the ripe dance and punk scenes of New York resonated across the globe plus Shaw got word that the choppers were frequent guests especially Martin Sheen who is rumored to be flashing back to intense paranoia back to his LSD mccheese Mo- sharing prop helicopters Filipino military while dodging revolutionary guerillas turned on tune way the fuck out photos from her days as a model back in New York struggling to make it when the pictures were leaked playboy without her approval in nineteen eighty five she refused to be shamed UH SEAN didn't see it that way because Sean saw everything through the gaze of a serious minded artist he was just her type currently taking his at bat as one of the Sean escape from an unlocked jail cell and high till that the Hong Kong on the first very he can find the entire troubled production fled Macau and they're able to keep the divorced nineteen eighty-nine and with the nineties on the horizon Madonna was freer than ever to push cultural and sexual boundaries right up to the limits of the law the decree disgrace fan? 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Get your first refill free at get quip dot com slash things this is a simple way to support disgrace and start brushing better but you have to go to get pretty the clubbiness of it the premium privacy and appearances the coated do's and don'ts they were all just sacred cows for the slaughter Madonna but from guide gentle brushing for the dentist recommended two minutes with thirty second pulses ensuring leaving clean this sounds so simple but it makes a huge difference it's all one of your teeth a solid then get quip I use quip to brush my teeth I started a couple of months ago and it's completely changed the experience playing multiple characters throughout the course of her set list diva showgirl and of course both virgin in the whore numerous complicated set changes and Ayn rand so much more efficient my teeth a cleaner you want to know what makes a bit of Toothbrush if you ask your dentist they'll tell you it's less about the brush more about how you use it that's why the design is simple to use and comes travel cap doubles as a mirror about this thing hangs right up next to my mirror above my sake it's right there for me it's handy it's LE`Veon's Newton John Martin Scorsese they're all there with her backstage and so was Kevin Costner who despite his a-list blockbuster status at the first time before coming to the show that night I didn't get the joke meet went out I would say the turn of the Century Madonna was repulsed by Costner's Les MIS and as soon as the timing quip automatically delivers brush heads to you every three months for clean universals right on schedule so go to the store you're going to get any of that stuff seek and split she turned to her friends and pantomine vomiting to express displeasure star beatty was not pleased but the gem backstage was no surprise neither were the jam stadiums Madonna was one of the biggest attractions in the world the production the creativity in the performances in nineteen ninety was offered as faulk we met Madonna he told her in all earnestness that our show was quote unquote meet like he'd just seen Annie Hall the whole show was novel for the time it was a hot ticket selling nearly half a million seats in the first two hours after they went on sale and eventually grossing sixty in dollars and it wasn't without controversy the show was a full-on theatrical production exploring Catholic sexuality onstage the grueling craftwork took its toll amid tour shows had to be cancelled so Madonna's throat could recover offstage Catholic watchdog groups across the US in Europe protested the subject matter in the blond ambition tour of Italy the Vatican threatened outright ban Madonna from performing but in nineteen ninety from oughta nothing was more controversial than her show in Toronto Madonna was sleepwalking through where's the party on stage the ski stage before the set that she was being arrested if she went ahead with the performance she was immediately defiant I'm not changing my fucking show where exact words from asleep simulating masturbation part of dance routine song was coming up next it was all Madonna could think about when she got the news her defiance quickly turned exuberance the thrill of the arrest was downright exhilarating as was the prospect of the ensuing for Blissett Shit store where she to get hauled in for authorities weren't budging Madonna's camp threatened to cancel the show mount he's held firm she touches herself she goes to jail backstage book masturbation or decency or whatever charged the Montes through eter she refused to be humiliated in shamed despite the smooth talk from Madonna's management don't fifty three thousand people more if you count the mouth breathing Canadian mounties on hand the bust Madonna she went ahead with a performance of like a virgin where she'd been age Madonna lit up did they then slightly answers I hope he's in jail when I get there and with that Madonna defiantly walks onstage sitting on the plush red velvet covered bed centerstage of gold bustier black fish nets and high heels the tension excitement was palpable Nicky Harris a dancer in the show told Madonna the cops met business and that they arrested Bobby Brown for fucking on the feel of the live version of the song significantly different than the single version the tempo is down less playful more seductive the dance on the bed all upper body a Middle Eastern influence siren call the flash arms extended slithering to the beat like cobras and then Madonna turns continent ten country tour the drums percussion their way into the beginning of her most identifiable song like a virgin but they're slower more sensual as the crowd and begins to slowly single words I made it through the Wilderness somehow I made it through the crowd immediately freaks out Madonna began slowly gently into the Mike didn't know how lost I was until I found you her serpentine arms. It's gone is the belly from her borderline days. Her body is taught fit muscular a dancer's body a result of the grueling physical demands of the four month three hotter Madonna leans into the ride straddling her imaginary lover teasing her hand begins to rubber belly slowly inching down her navel me feel shiny and new the drums kick in Madonna rolls onto her back spreads her long legs revealing gold panty clad crotch and comes song continues to the chorus backed verse and when she hits the second course she does another spread Eagle and more grinding more intense this time pushing it hard unease on the bed. She grinds her hips into an imaginary lover beneath her pushing like a version touched the very first time closer to the crotch she moans the vocal refrain slides her hand back down her belly again this time even closer closer to her crotch pushing it dominating her audience of thousands a baseball stadium jammed with horny inspired fans and the small handful of conservative soul crushing Canadian mounties screaming cheering panting right there alongside or with every thrust until the music finally comes down post climax post coitus continued away to the stage lights above her I was beat incomplete been had I was sad and blue but you made me feel yeah you made singing not missing a beat they mouth nipples Palmer Vagina. The song's tempo picks up Madonna's ham grabs crotch she's on her back thrusting her hips up so the show could have ended right there Madonna's performance of like a virgin under threat of censorship from Canadian mounties was so inspired her head in her blonde hair up and down up and down up and down her healed feet outstretched like a v. the crowd is freaking out in full throats there was no need to finish the set but of course she did and in the end there was no arrest the authorities perhaps sensing a potential riot back down is up onto her feet on stage begins massaging Jean Paul Goatee Cone Breasts and falls into the arms of her two dancers who take her she rise beneath them still it's more than sex it's violence it's inspiring it's nasty madonna rolls over onto her stomach on the bed and begins frantically dry humping banging ace and hand between her legs mesmerizing and Kinky black and white this was Madonna's idea of coffee table book sex all caps the song hits the Bridge Madonna falls onto were back on the bed to dancers at our side caress her arms and back she rises it was to be literary and visual companion to her fifth album erotica sex would sell out its first edition within a few days but even as America slut Time magazine predicted it'll be the first aluminum covered soft porn book ever degrees the remainder been but they were wrong of course today sex without money to peop- Madonna's erotic fantasies with one hand it slapped her wrist with the other Madonna's pushing of the envelope her virgin horror image had always attracted is one of the most in demand out-of-print books in the world but the prudish backlash of the early nineties was real as a result of the hypocritical controversy erotica allies took Madonna from behind was staged so what he was taught as was Madonna wrapped into other women. All Kerr's buzz cuts critics never considered Madonna serious actor Madonna was supposed to act she wasn't supposed to write books she was supposed to push boundaries on film she was supposed to arch so long as it was the right edge she was supposed to inspire critics to write lofty over intellectualized views long-form think pieces dissecting the motive intense criticism but after sex the criticism reached a new level critics who once praised her pushing boundaries now trashed her work casting her as a try hearts attitudes with a knife to her crotch or Madonna alone in a leather blindfold studied lingerie with exposed nipple cutouts a riding crop between her teeth Michael Power structure dictator creative station the reviews for body of evidence the nineteen ninety three crime drama Madonna starred in alongside Willem dafoe meaning behind her lyrics in her evolving image she was supposed to make movies look what happened Elvis singles record stores that's where it was at everything else was just would Madonna's first record since nineteen eighty three with no number one hits with all the noise the time seemed right for focusing fully on her acting career played by James Russo a real life good friend of Madonna's ex-husband Sean Penn the project with Ferrara Hotel and Russo was a snake pit of masculinity as an actor Madonna despite her more than capable turns in desperately seeking Susan League of their own alongside Rosanna arquette and Tom Hanks respectively act and mentally and physically challenging situations humiliating them when necessary all in an effort to strip the actors any contrived stage artifice and hopefully life was being obliterated Madonna grew paranoid anxious tents insecure violence was imbued into the nature every shoot volatility make records and videos to show off her belly above a boy toy belt buckle and tour make the power players in the music industry more and more money every time she got a creative itch gnaws overexposure but Madonna would not be putting a box she knew she had the

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SYSK Selects: What Makes a One-hit Wonder?

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SYSK Selects: What Makes a One-hit Wonder?

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Yeah, I didn't even say, say something funny. I just say something, I know. All right, man. It's good quality in a broadcaster to freeze up on the air and it professional talker. Yeah. Yeah. How you doing emigres freezing? I'm good man. This is a fun goofy little topic. And we haven't done one like that in a while this is a fun article written by a guy named Charles w Bryant a writer for the site yet. I will. Go ahead and say one thing I was disappointed in this article. And I would still like to see someone tackle this in documentary style. Maybe is the psychology of being a one hit wonder. Oh, like what it does to your psyche. Yeah. Is it better to have that one hit and fade away? At least you had that or is it better to have never, you know, I would be real curious to see a series of interviews with one wonders to see like how they feel about it. You're saying is it better to have hit and lost than never to have hit it all? Exactly. And I couldn't really find anything on that. So I'm sure there's one or two. To who like listen to the podcast. And if you do right in let us know how it is. We're interested Lou bega. At the very least listen. The fake Lou bega. So Chuck, I wanted to commend you for this article. Because you really like this is a tough one for with how stuff works articles. We typically take a topic that is, you know, has a lot of research done on. It's very well defined and then we deconstruct it. This one is like I, I looked on the internet. And if you type in one hit wonder there is like zero scholarly worked on it for treason. Yeah. Well, I mean it's interesting to like you brought up the psychology of being there should even anyone ever done study like that. There is nothing. It's all just lists. Yeah. And actually did find one good website. It's called one hit wonder central dot com and they have everything you can play like every song. They have it by ear. Oh, awesome. Who the one hit wonder was from the sixties to the two thousand maybe fifties there, some of the greatest songs to me or some of the one hit wonders sure, and I mean that's the points like, you know, a one hit wonders just something that everybody liked at one time, we just didn't like whatever else they were. Making right. Yeah. At least as a large collective group. Anyway. Back to me commending you, you had to take something that was really amorphous that everybody knew. Uh-huh. And with new, if you got wrong, and whip it into shape like a definable shape, and you got it. Right. I think you did a great job. Thank you. Michael. So the first thing you pointed out was that no one is one hundred percent certain of the origin of this phrase. That's right. But we figured out that it was if I came in print in nineteen seventy seven right? Well, that's what phrases dot org says, and I couldn't find anything to dispute it, but a writer, there wrote the sentence in July Seventy-seven about Abba, instead of becoming what everyone expected a one hit wonder they soon had a string of hits behind them. And although the website phrase dot org does say it appears to have already been a used phrase. But this is the first time they've seen it in print. Right. And, and so, in there, actually is like a definition for one hit wonder like. There's a hit I guess you find a hit and it's gotta be on the because we're so American Centric, sure as to be on the billboard top one hundred and specifically in the top forty to be considered a right to. Yeah. Technically for like when most people like there have been books written about one wonders. And that's usually where what they say. Okay. So that wasn't just you or anything thing thought. It was a great definition. No. It's a good definition. But that's the generally held definition. But then, that's where it gets really blurry as we are about to find out, right. Well, in many ways. I mean. Yeah. You make a point that there's a lot of one hit wonders by that definition who are legendary musicians like Jimi Hendrix, one hit, Janice. Joplin one hit Garth Brooks. As Chris Gaines. Yeah. That's hoses only billboard hit. Yes. Zoe billboard top forty hit, but he had country heads just lived on the country. Sure. Top. Ten but yeah. As in the mainstream top forty his only hit was as Chris Gaines with the haircut and the patch man. That was yeah. I don't know what song that was even I don't either back. Yeah. The dead, the dead. The white stripes Lou Reed. Iggy pop Devaux some like I kind of bands and musicians that have only had one hit, and then you've got artists who never had that hit, but are still considered one wonders because what you end up realizing is despite the definition of what a hit is a one hit wonder is something different. It's just an artist and a song who captured something for a moment in time it doesn't matter if it was a top forty hit. Right. Like you. You say Walla voodoo Mexican radio absolutely was not a top forty hit. No, but that's definitely a hit in the zeitgeist as you put it adds. Who else I'll melt with you modern English. The weather girls'. It's raining men. You'd say all of these are definite one hit wonders. Right. And none of them had top forty hits. Right. So, but if sticking to the strict definition that I mean that's still works to right like the penguins earth angel. Yeah. In the fifties right in the sixties. You had summertime blues by blue cheer. They really spent blue on like they're one there. One thing there, one shot was covered in blue blue cheer did summertime blues green tambourine remember that song. No. I did them him timbering was very like psychedelic. No. And the lemon pipers you know, it's one of the songs where sorta like in the seventies Arjun. Hold your head up. Like everybody knows that song. But I bet ninety nine people out of one hundred have never heard of the van urgent. No, they probably think, oh, the one that the guess who or wouldn't that? Joe dirt or. Yes. Wasn't that was it? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. I never saw what I never saw Joe dirt. Oh, men such a great like keep your chin up movie is good, like really can hate David Spade. You can hate all of that kind of comedy. But that movie has such like, it's got hard. It's a cute movie. It's well I had friends. It's on Netflix streaming. Yeah, I had friends at worked on it, and that's where I have my Gary Busey insider story. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I told you, you know, he was he was supposed to play the father. And if you'll notice in the film, he does not play the father. No. It's done by one thread ward. Yeah. So Gary Busey was on set for a day, and it didn't work out. He made it gets the whole story. He made it into black sheep with Chris Farley and David Spade. We'll see in that. Yeah. He was like the crazy guy who lived in a school bus in the woods. So. It was the part is born to play exactly, please don't come to our office care abusive. All right. So that was the fifties. And that's generally when the rock era in the fifties is when you people say, you can start talking about things like one hit wonders. Yeah. Like not some guy who had one big band hit in the nineteen thirties. Although I'm sure they, they were there. Sure, you know, that's true. There's been one song. That was a one hit wonder for two bands, which is interesting. Oh, yeah. The to funky town really? Yeah. Lips inc. Nineteen eighty and then I don't know if you remember pseudo echo, they did a version of that in nineteen eighty six. No, there's a little more electric in upbeat in that was a bona fide top forty hit as well. He's can't people couldn't get enough of funky down. I hope whoever wrote that like, really cashed in. Yes, I do in a so the sixties all right now the sixties was the green tambourine seventies song. Like spirit in the sky. Yeah. By Norman Greenbaum. It's good. So who was an Apollo thirteen one toke over the line? I literally wrote shudder next to that. Like. You hate that song. It's pretty bad. Brewer and Shipley and seasons in the sun. Great song, Terry jacks, never heard of the guy. No. No. We've I never by. And you also make the point that the seventies were lousy with disco one hit wonders in our disco episode. We talked about why. Because it was all producer driven rather than artistry exactly. I didn't even bother to like list any in here. You know it's you can just name disco song. And there you have, you know, the eighties, of course, you had bands like soft cell's tainted love. And Mickey you're so fine. Toni basil I want candy by bowel Hajjah goo goo, remember what's on? I don't remember why is that? Yeah. So the eighties was lousy with it. But a lot of those are great songs and a lot of the artists in the eighty s were popular in other countries. Yeah. In are known as one hit wonders here in the US. Like I was reading an article on, I think, cracked maybe your route one wonders, and they were saying, like a ha- had take on me which was a hit here in the United States. But that was it. Yeah, but they're like one of the top fifty grossing bands of all time worldwide. Yeah. Well, and I ha- falls into another. We were category which is a ban, that's known as a one hit wonder who actually had quite or second hit a really. Yeah. They had a song called the sun, always shines on TV. That was like a top twenty hit. I think. Wow. I don't remember that one. Nobody does. They're good though. Now they're awesome. And then member right? Said, Fred, I'm too sexy huge in England. Yes. Like they're I'm to sixty was actually only hitting. Two in England. They had another one that hit number one. But here in the states. Yeah, I think it hit number one here, I think, so, too. And then that was it for right? Said, Fred, the same with Frankie goes to Hollywood. Yeah, they were really big in Europe in Gary Numan yet. That was a good song, though that song holds up car back and listen to cars. Yeah. That dude was a good musician. Well, and he was hugely popular and still tours today. Yeah. So he's, he's one of those guys, it's like please don't call me a one hit wonder. Right. I've had a long successful career, look at my house. You know, it's a car. No think it's like a mansion. He lives in his car feel safest Gotcha. He can lock all the doors Falco. And. Oh, yeah. Nina were really big. And German speaking countries. Yeah, yeah, I could see that. But, you know, had the ninety nine red balloons, Loof balloons, and then Falco's rock me on meal days. Yeah. Huge it here. Like didn't occur to my young brain that, that wasn't from the Amadeus soundtrack, because remember it came out at about the same time as the movie. Oh, yeah. And like I just thought it was part of the soundtrack. Yeah. Movie soundtrack. Well, the point with this, though is that one hit wonder is sort of a sort of a derogatory term to throw on so a lot of these people are like. In America like you jerks. I was huge in Europe. Or maybe some other country, and in America was gone gone. Yeah. Who cares so much for your one hit the ninety s crash? Test Dummies remember those dudes? Well that was the song. Oh, yeah. The mock arena, even though I don't even like to count that on. What about faith? No more epic. Yes, he that's a ban that hugely critically popular, and had a big cult following. Yeah. But yeah, just the one hit epic sells the name of the right. Yeah. You want it all. But you can't have that was. I remember here. That's on the first one does the coolest thing I've ever heard. Yeah. And that lead singer, his name, Mike, something, he's like super respected. He's been another band, Mr. bungle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big like has a big cult following among colts, even like people who aren't in colts are. So that's. Music. That's an overview. Yeah. You make a really good point in this article that like one hit wonder that derogatory term isn't just aimed at people only in the music industry. Although that's where the lion's share of it is. Yeah, but it shows up in sports, you pointed out, a couple of them a couple of instances. Yeah. Well, if you have one hit in baseball than you've been a complete and utter failure. But a couple of guys have had one hit. And then when it was a home run, which is pretty cool, which is pretty interesting. Who was there is a guy named Chris Jelic, whose name I recognize for some reason, and I don't follow the Mets or anything. But I guess I just saw that, that bit of trivia before that he had one hit, and it was a home run. Yeah. Maybe so there's a guy who didn't have a hit named Eddy Goodell. He had one plate appearance in a nineteen fifty one game for the Yankees. And he was a little person and they put him in against the St Louis Browns, and he drew four consecutive. Balls and got to walk. Really? Yeah. And his Jersey's in the hall of fame and it's. You can't see me doing this right now. I'm I'm rubbing my face. His number was one eighth. Really? Yeah. But he was I guess you could say a one hit sports wonder it was kind of a fun story until then. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that was his jam the tweet up paid for. And that's I mean, he was aware that he was a little person, so funny off. What about the art world design world? There's very famous person. Yeah. Harvey bill. Yeah. Who has the perfect name for what he did. Why is it the perfect name how rebel it sounds like the creator of the smiley face? Yeah. The iconic seventy smiley face. He created that as a marketing campaign kind. It's under like an internal morale campaign for a state Mutual Life Insurance company, and it took off. I don't know if the company made the money or what but he was paid two hundred and forty bucks for it, and he never had another artistic hit. And I looked to see if there are any other artists who were considered one hit wonder, I found somebody didn't recognize any idea recognize one grant would the painter of American gothic. Oh, yeah. He painted that. And was he won all sorts of prizes became like this. Like 'cause celeb- like all over the art world and the media started digging into his life, and realize that he was a, a middle aged bachelor lived at home with his. Mother and sister in, like wanted to know more about that all of a sudden he liked just really couldn't handle the, the limelight, and it's pretty sad story. Interesting. I read an article about it on mental floss it was worth reading. So he never painted again. Or I, I don't think he ever kind of went for the gusto didn't just stop painting altogether. I don't remember the end of the article. Well, our world, certainly has a lot of people famous super famous for a single painting. But they may have been, you know, very revered and other areas. Right, like faith. No more that's right there, the faith. No more of the art world. I told you saw the scream this last trip to New York. Oh, yeah. And you're like, yeah. This was like I can see what you're I mean. Like you build something like that up in your head. Yes. See it everywhere. And then just to see the real one. It's either going to go one of two ways. Sure you're gonna be underwhelmed or amazed. You know, I completely agree and that's been my that's been what's happened to me with art because, you know I feel about our I feel a love. Well, now you're road. Traffic in your one. Learn a thing or two from Josh, John stuff, you should know. Right. Support for today show comes from Microsoft surface. Hey stuff. You should know listeners. We know that you love going fast will get ready because the surface laptop to is now faster than ever before, because of a little thing called an eighth Jin until core processor, it just under three pounds with up to fourteen and a half hours. Wow. A battery life in a single charge is the perfect companion for a busy busy day. So create faster respond quicker travel lighter because that's important and get even more done surface laptop to it's thin light and powerful. What about books? Yeah. To kill a Mockingbird. Yeah. That's the one most often cited as the one hit wonder because Harper Lee wrote one book. Yeah. That's one of those rare ones where I actually think the movies better than the book. Oh young. And I love the book it's one of my favorite books of all time. And I had read it in a while. And I went back and read it, and then I watched the movie shortly after I was like holy cow movies better than the book, Gregory Peck. I mean yeah talk about one of the best casting, but everyb- like all of those actors were amazing every single one of them. Yeah. Yeah. It's good stuff. She wrote the one book and she worked on a second for awhile come along to buy, but shelved it then in the nineteen eighty she started another book and never finished that one either. I guess she just procrastinated. No. I think she just I don't know. I don't know if anyone has an answer, why she never wrote again. Same with a Salinger. Yeah. Catch you in the right? That was it except he wrote short stories, too. But I mean key never published another novel. Yeah. And I will never know in John Kennedy Toole cheer confederacy of dunces. How often do you think about that book? Just in your normal life. I don't know almost never maybe. Yeah. A couple of times a year. Maybe when it's like a movie will be in the works that never happens. I was thinking about that movie or that book yesterday. Really? And I hadn't read this article yet have you read it? No, it's good. It's like I think a lot of people had these expectations because it's known as it's like genius wirtten after this guy committed suicide. And it is really good. But I don't think it's like one of the greatest books of all time or anything. Yeah. So what happened to him? Do you know? No, I just I, I've never read the book. I don't know much about it. I know it's kind of like a wacky, southern gothic. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of novel, I lives with his aunt. I think or something like this crazy character in Louisiana. The it's always grabbed my attention because it's just like a perfect title. And then the guy's name is perfect as well. John Kennedy tool. Yeah. Or the, the character, his the author Gotcha. Yeah. Well, he'd killed himself he. He was clearly now, suffered some sort of mental illness and could not get published, and drove him to eventually commit suicide in nineteen sixty nine MS mother made it her. Life's work to get it published and did so in nineteen eighty eight and then his second book was published the neon bible. I think in nineteen ninety six and that was made into a movie. So he's not a one hit wonder, then well neon bible wasn't a huge yet. But gotcha. But yeah, I would say he's the one hit wonder and you also bring up movies to man. Yeah. And on books again. Sylvia Plath is on here for the bell jar. I kind of wish I hadn't put that in here because she was a well-known. Poet, it's why I hadn't mentioned it. You know. But she did write the one book, and then what you do stick your head in the or something. I don't know how she killed herself. I think for junior wolf drowned herself, right, Sylvia Plath, long or cellphone or self. I think did she I that sounds right? God remember that scene in wonder boys, where? Tobey maguire. Rattles off the famous celebrity suicide was really great as a great movie. Joseph Heller with catch twenty two. Yeah, that's certainly one hit wonder. So yeah movies. I mean, they're more directors and actors that you can even mention that had one hit. But legit super super hits, people like Michael, is it to me? No or semi. No. I think although if it's if you're speaking in the Italian it'd be Jamuna to main. Yeah. He did the deer hunter. Of course. Yeah. Won best picture. And for their Academy Awards. Did he Mao did he mail? That's what they tell them when they're like, making play Russian roulette did. Oh, yeah. Except they price scream it. Yeah. Yeah. That scene was so intent all that very young really young to be seeing that moving in retrospect, it made an impression on, you know. Yeah, huge but yeah, he famously made Heaven's Gate as, as follow up, which was one. The is notorious disasters, along with Istar was Waterworld was to Warren Beatty, movie, too, or is that heaven can wait. He was in heaven can wait initiator. So what about Heaven's Gate? What was that about? I think it was a western. Oh, yeah. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And it was just eight notorious failure, and very expensive one. And then to me, no never he made a few other movies. But you haven't heard of many of them heated year of the dragon was like with Mickey Rourke only other like notable movie. That's supposed to be good one. Yeah but it was far from a hit. I got you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then my favorite Steve Gordon, one of my favorite movies of all time. I have not seen it. You didn't see Arthur not only have not seen the original Arthur. I haven't seen the remake. That includes their friend Hodgman as a candy store manager that was terrible. By the way, not husbands bit now. Hodgman was great. But the, the remakes really bad, and it was so sad because Arthur is one of those movies that I hold very, very dear to me. Right. And Steve Gordon wrote and directed it and then died afterwards, it was only movie ever made by his own hand. Now, I think he had a heart attack, or something. Oh in died young, but young ish and it was just so. Like it was a gut wrenching experience watching the remake for me. Why did you watch it? Like, for example. I think red dawn is one of my favorite movies of all time. There's not a chance that I will ever see the remake of red. Well, I'm not either and I learned after Arthur, tell you. So that's the one that taught you the lesson. Yeah. I'm not gonna watch anything those really precious to me that they rebooted or remake it again. Never again. It sounds like Hodgman tell you valuable lesson. Yeah. And I like Russell brand, you know, and I thought, you know, they made Helen Mirren John Gielgud character, and was just enough of a spin was like, well, that's could be interesting. But then everything about the movie was just some new, little spin to make it different. And it was like, hey, let's make the, the man or woman. Let's make the, the white guy Puerto Rican. You know, it was like Louis mine is just it was so bad. I got you. Yeah. Well, that's it for Arthur. Yeah. If you want. To learn more about Arthur, you can tie or this. Isn't that what this podcast is about? I forgot Arthur one hit wonder stuffing more. That's what it was. You should read this article by Chuck, it's a good one, you can type one hit wonders in the search bar, how stuff works dot com and it will bring up this article again, commendable article, thanks. And I said commendable, so it's time for word from our sponsor. Well, now you're road in your truck. Learn a thing or two from Josh Chuck stuff. 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TRR461 01 15 20 - One Hit Wonders - Impossible Burgers - Talking Monkeys

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TRR461 01 15 20 - One Hit Wonders - Impossible Burgers - Talking Monkeys

"Hey they're Ralph garment here and thanks so much checking out this free edition of the row report. If you like what you hear. Do me a favor. Subscribe to the Ralph report so we can put some fun in in your ears five days a week and you can listen for as little as three dollars a month so subscribed today. So you know miss out on any of the fun go to Patriotdepot dot com slash slash. The Roth report and sign up. Welcome to the Ralph report with Ralph. Garman well hello there boys and girls here. We are in the middle of another spectacular week in a brand brand new year. It is January fifteenth. Twenty twenty. What's so goddamn funny swelled spectacular? But you're not saying it with the level of enthusiasm because I don't mean ah obviously you don't try to talk myself into it. Welcome to another route. Report is as I mentioned Wednesday January fifteenth. I am your old podcast Powell. Ralph Garman sitting here in the bat cave with me. Is the vice host himself. 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You just WanNa end it all just to check out just to stop feeling the pain but you need to know that year it can get better. You can get better because you're sick. You're not broken. No you're not irretrievably damaged. You're just sick and you wouldn't kill yourself if you had a broken leg and you wouldn't kill yourself if you had the flu. No just please get help. Help is available and if you don't find help in the first place go to a second place in good with third place and if you can't find a family member or a friend to help you out go online or call somebody but just take that first step because you can get treatment and can get medication and you can feel better as he said he's felt better now than he has in years. And it's it's possible out there and I and I implore you I appreciate that this show can give you some laughs and some relief for an hour or so but you can get relief permanently. You can get it fixed. You can get well and so I just asked that if you struggling with any see those issues do me a personal favor and and talk to somebody and get some help. Because 'cause it you can you can get trip and now you know. We're in the best of times when it comes to there's multiple treatments if one doesn't work for you go onto something else. I mean. Just keep trying keep trying. And I'm glad he found the thing that worked for him me too and I'm and I'm especially honored and touched that. He thought that we could Help him out at in his in his dark moments with little goofiness here on this show so makes the whole goddamn thing worthwhile clearly absolutely Komo right onto a happier. Subjects will not really facing called in with a awful awful subject. Hey Ralph Jason share here got a confession to make buddy. What's that my daughter? Harper's six years old and she loves Jo-jo Wolf I hate to admit this but I spend the same amount every month on the Ralph report as a four star general. Yeah as I do on the Joe Blow of the month. Twelve owners right twenty bucks a month. One bow in in a box nailed to my house. Wow I'm sorry buddy. Please feel free to crank meal away out now I I love you bye. Listen Jason I don't I don't condone what you're doing but I absolutely understand why you're doing it when it comes to our kids we all do a lot of very stupid things and so. I can't really punish him for making his a six year old daughter happy but when she gets a bow in the mail from Joe Joe seaward once a month cell. I can't. I'm sorry I wish I could drum you out of the garment but I simply can't because I understand what you do. We've all done things for kids that we probably wouldn't do. Otherwise poor guy poor guy or Guy Oh his brutal twenty bucks a bulb. Oh well for a bullet pike fifteen cents maiden some sweat show China. Man's regained spend Hoti bucks a month. Katherine Awful just awful lease we do something every day. Yeah and it's all right. Joe called in Awe. This brought back some memories. He's here off. And this is joe calling from scratch. Wisconsin I just think today's episode and when you mentioned the monkey that was co hosting the today show It made me remember something that I used to watch when I was a kid. It was well before my time only thirty two but my mom loved it and have recordings of it. Did you guys ever watched the show and fill out link and it was about a monkey who the chip here the private eye. I'm like all the chimps on the show chewed gum like they were talking. I feel like sometimes I I am. It happened because people Don't ever seem to remember is just wondering whether you guys do great job. Keep it up and I'm the thank you Jill. Do I remember it. Remember lags watching chimp. Yes I watched it all the time it would never fly today. No Kida Would come in. They would come in like paratroops. They would be dropping from the sky high heels with he'd do. It would let me explain the premise Amazon. Lancelot link secret chimp. They got it actually was the show is created by two writers of get smart okay at the time they were head. Writers for the caliber. Burnett show in the seventies. They quit that job because they came up with this idea. They wanted to pitch to ABC. Who bought it of live action? Chimpanzees pansies dressed as people going out on secret spy missions and then they would give them chewing gum to their mouth would be moving all the time and then they would go back into the studio and they would have actors dubbed Dialogue into the moving mounds of the camp. I haven't thought about that. Show I e either until Joe Brown up and of course naturally when I heard the phone call I went to a deep dive of Lancelot link secret. I recommend it highly miss that show. I know we have some folks there in the audience. Who liked to partake in the herb once in a while smoke up? This is the show for you. 'cause I gotTa tell you I can only imagine how fun this would be high. I forgot all cool. The intro was do. Here's a little love. The theme song landslide links secret chimp actively seek jam scams it. He had a girlfriend spy. My Name's Matahari Haagen flashbacks. Oh my God. He worked for a secret organization known as APE which was the agency for the Protection Against Evil Arch Villains. I'm telling you this thing is a blast God so Yeah check it out for yourself. Lancelot link secret champ. They tried to do a version like that called Chimp Lips theater years later. I don't remember that it was done by some folks that I actually knew and and they did it for Fox. Kids programming is probably like in the mid nineties and I actually did a voice. You're Tony didn't show yeah. It was very reminiscent of Lancelot link. Secret Grachev so there you go thank you jill for bringing us back Wa. Those memories appreciate it. Christine called in with an excellent idea. This is this is another moment where the show is just right in itself. Hi Ralph. This is Christine to star from Yorba. Linda the ATM awards is happening. Gene on the twenty fifth of this month and I loved Both Times you cover the nominations and the titles. So I was hoping hoping and wondering if you would be willing to do that again if you can just kind of walk through all the nominations and the titles If you have time that would be great. We appreciate it love. You mean it by done done and done. I love reading the titles of the nominated films for the Avian Awards awards which as you mentioned are not this weekend but next. So that's next week's Ralph Sauce. You perfect sorted guy or that. Last year I was dying. We will go through through the nominated films for this year's a adult video news awards and it will go in depth which is the only way to do porn especially the anal the nominees Yeah we'll go through those Christie next week. That'd be fun we'll do that in sex you next week thank you for the reminder. Almost forgot to do that made a note to myself and then I forgot where I put the note so that doesn't help. And lastly Bjorn called in urine from Cincinnati. I just love his name. Bjorn called in because yesterday today we were talking about the one million MOMS who are upset with Burger Kanye because burger king had an ad featuring they're impossible burger they're impossible muscle walker made from impossible meat. Which is impossible? It's impossible. You can't have it impossible And they were upset that because the word Damn was used in the commercial. That's not what this call's about. We talked about the impossible burger and what it's made out of. I said was made out of people much like soiling toiling green and the Charlton Heston Scifi film. Well Bjorn called in with some information regarding the impossible meet Restart general impossible. It's made out of the same. Set that up really cheap dogs And mostly the the and basketball team and then One substitute inside of them. And that's why I like the same shit they spray on shitty dog dog so All of our friends you're like oh it's impossible burgers fucking God all right. Oh man so that phone call grossed me out it caused me to thank. Is You know how much of what he's saying is actually right right. I did a little research myself on the impossible Burger. And did you know it's it's like A. It's it's it's patented I mean that's that's a trademark thing. No one else makes the impossible burger. They know there's a their own company. Del Taco Taco Bell has a impossible tacos or something. I like that anytime you see impossible. They must be made by this. Okay they have a trademark on this particular concoction they make. I think there's another one called beyond. Oh it's beyond Tacos us. Maybe it's a beyond another company that does something like that but impossible has their own formula. Okay this is what they do okay okay so at. He's these semi right. It's not nearly sounded very angry about it. It's very angry a lot of what he said. I've lived in my research I found out was was sort of spread by the meat industry trying to make impossible possible. Look bad guys are threatened by of course there but I did some research. And here's what I came up with. This is from several sources so I think this happens to be true. He's right it is made up of plant proteins proteins. We knew that yes. It is made from a blend of soy and potato proteins. I didn't even know there was that much protein and a potato but apparently there is now so so has a bad reputation with some people they can fuck with your hormones up here levels of estrogen. I believe that's what I believe to. Yeah but the Surprisingly the impossible vice vice president says that's not the case something he would say isn't Ellen the company line The first version was made with wheat protein. But they've taken that out because now the impossible burgers gluten free okay so people with the intolerance to gluten Kennedy. So there you go. So that's part of it now. It's made up of protein fat binders and flavor. So let's break it down. We've got the protein part heart. The fat in the reason. Impossible Burger will sizzle when it hits the Grill over goes is because it comes from a combination of coconut oil and sunflower oil bill. Okay that's what they put into this stuff to make. It seem fat at. They're putting oil in it to make it that mouth feel also when you eat it you want it to the illegal Vivo. Slimy you want a little greasy when you're eating one right. Everything is held together by a binder called methyl cellulose use methyl. Cellulose is a chemical compound that is derived from cellulose. We were just talking about those stuff they make billiard appeared balls out right plastic yes basically it is used as a thickener into most of fire in a number of food and cosmetic products it is non digestible instable non toxic and non allergenic. They claim so has the by. The body can't break it down. It's not no no this is often marketed it as a laxative Eddie. As you should know metamucil and things like those is stuff that is in the potato chips ten fifteen years ago. That was that fake fat. Yeah yeah like or something weird some it would make you shit. You're paying just look like anal leakage. Profuse illegal. They claims that fat fat substitute was. But this isn't that this is different and as for the flavor they put a thing in called Hemi Hemi is a flavor compounds. That is an iron containing organic organic count compound found in all living things now in animals. It is an important in part of protein hemoglobin. Which is in your blood carries the oxygen in your blood so Hema carries oxygen all living things in animals? It's blood implants. That's also contained in these plants. But it's found in their root systems. Okay here's what they do food scientists from impossible concert DNA from soya routes into genetically modified yeast and there it ferments and produces large quantities of this soy. Hey Amy and he me I guess it's called. And then they use that in the mixture to create the flavor of of meat that metallic bloody flavor. You get your bite your lip and you answer on blood. Yeah that metallic flavor the iron in your blood so they replicate locate that flavor by getting genetically genetically modified organisms filled with this from soya roots roots. And then they put it into the prochet. So that's what it's made now. It's one thing to talk about. Yeah it's one thing just to talk about it but I thought since we're gathered gathered here home his second I had our friends from grub hub not a sponsor but I love to use them. I had them run out and pick US up a couple impossible while oh perfect perfect so I've got him here in this bag. I ordered one with no tomato and no pickles. You just for you Eddie. So Nice so I thought we would break these out and have a little taste tests on the air of the impossible burgers now. I'm not going to bore everyone as we unwrap these and everything. So what are we gonNA put the show on hold and then we'll come back and then we'll have the taste test right so we can cut down on the wrinkling sound and we can just. We can eat some people like that there. Is this the thing my neck and neck you. Are you responsible little bit little bit. Yeah Eh that that did get me a little bit all right. We're GONNA put this show in Hobart. UNWRAP are impossible offers. And then we're gonNA eat them Here live on the rap report. Please hold We know your time is valuable. Thank you for holding someone will be with you as soon as possible And we're back and here's what we're GONNA do. We thought of it during the break. Is that that cockeyed that camera. It's little till it looks like we're seeing from Batman villains little jilted. What are the villains outposts? We're we're GONNA actually film this as well because last time. Wait something on the air by said. Oh I wish I could see was like when they eat. I don't know what you're weird fetishes about watching US but WE'RE GONNA film it. It will put it up as bonus content for the two three and four mile. The Robin to Your Batman is why rob on your side and Batman on my said we are here in the back that is sparsely decorated. So through some stuff behind us so it wouldn't be so boring All right so we're here. We got our impossible burgers loaded up now after everything we've heard I didn't know about this. Meat will be interesting. I think to give us a sample. We're going to eat this on the air and see what we think. These are the impossible whoppers from Burger. King he you didn't. I've noticed how angular the edges of the Burger are. It doesn't look it's molded extruded. It looks like when you had plato and it would come out out of a mold in which you know the fuzzy. It's a good sign. It looks like something came out of a mole. Get you're absolutely right. But let's see what the flavor is like okay. Countries like a whopper Walker phys exactly like a walker. That's because all the stuff is not true. It's all the Mayo. And so I guess you could put cardboard in there with that stuff on like the Walker let me far off a little drier higher. I'm GONNA pull my my pull my patty off right. That's not a euphemism just to see how the Patty looks way worse than that but you know what it tastes like damn meet. Here's like me as a little drier. Then actual meat but it tastes like meat a lot like me. There's exactly like yeah like not enough that I would. If you gave this to me it was a taste test. When you're Walker and there's I don't think I would be able to all the dip? I wouldn't be able to tell you there and I am so it's genetically modified plant me but I would eat that and be satisfied and five fil better about yourself. Well they say it in terms of the environment it's much healthier because you don't get all the waste from cattle and yeah the the gases Susan everything and it's more cost efficient. It's better for the planet they saying. This is the way we should go. If we're going to eat meat we should all start eating plant based meats. I I I think I could do it. What a breakfast And I'm not a guy on breakfast. Good I'm not a guy who really goes in for The vegan stuff. But if I just had to eat that as be for the rest of my I could do that. I'd be happy and it doesn't you don't feel it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like heavy like the greasy heaviness of a burger when you bite into No that's that's good stuff. Thanks for the upper. You want them having. We should finish them here on the show because we do have other stuff to do but there golf so bjorn. I know you didn't you. You'll like it but we ate. It wasn't bad wasn't bad at all so again. Not a sponsor Burger Burger King. If you're listening unlike one million MOMS you can say whatever you want on this show. That was good see. That's a good burger right there. I suck a car. Eat that Burger. Dip your balls in my mouth. That's good oh my God. I take a face villages if I could get another impossible burger. They all of that. So Burger King Burger Mark. Burger King Burger King. Feel free to advertise here. Please on the report. Thanks to everybody. Who called in I appreciate you too can be featured here on this segment? Don't notice me on the line but you know what you gotta do. You GotTa Call Me. All righty now. It's time for us to take a look in the rear view mirrors we do at this time each and every show not every show Tuesday Tuesday that Monday throws me. We look in the mirror and see what happened on this day. January fifteenth in history rows about to solve another mystery like Justin stood David decent Putin vented tyrant King married his sister Queen. Who knows every day seems to be an anniversary? The army's rub in rouse lamps wishes. Please tell us what weekdays on this day. There's no aftertaste. Have you ever tried vegan cheese. No at tastes like ass through oily. Yeah and it smells like feet. cheesiest smelling cheat. You've ever smelled. It's just wrong and it's like oh it's just like regular cheese made from cashews now being is not fly with isn't bad at at all I keep thinking about I know all right. Let's take a look. Excuse me there's that laxative effect might might have to run the anal leakage. You're going to get later. Let's find out what happened. On This Day January fifteenth in fifteen thirty five King Henry. The eighth declared himself the head of the Church of England Must be good to be the king. He I invented that cherish. Because as I mentioned before the Catholic Church wouldn't give him an annulment for his to leave that woman and go to but he didn't want a divorce or you just wanted to null and they said No. We're not GONNA do that so he said all right. Fine I'll start my own religion and I'll make myself the head of it and then he'd be head. One held a bunch of wives. But who hasn't had that feeling is true once in a while more so lately than usual a fifteen fifty nine Elizabeth. I was crowned Queen of England in Westminster Abbey. So there's a couple of shout outs to Steve Ashton and our other the UK listeners. I want to hear about taking the royal family. Yeah I'm dying to hear that. Because he hates them and I don't know whether he hates these guys for leaving the royal family or he's behind right who towed also many questions get better Steve. Seventeen seventy seven. The people of New Connecticut later known as Vermont declared their independence from England in England. Said I'm sorry are you again. You're the we shit things bigger than your state. We don't care whether you're independent Desert Connecticut before a new Connecticut. I'm assuming coming sewer. They get Connecticut from somewhere else. Probably did yeah. Usually when it's a new something it comes from another country must be a weird. I'm like we were GonNa Take Connecticut Daniel. We're new Connecticut Etiquette New and improved Connecticut Impossible Connecticut. We're just by Connecticut. We're better for you. But later on they were called Vermont. Vermont in Seventeen Ninety seven. This is a big day John Etherington of London and other British fact John Etherington of London. He was a London and didn't have a dasher familiar. With what a Haberdasher isn't shoemaker. Now clothier guy yes. Yes men's clothes clothing and and and Asheri and and hats hats hats and jackets and so he created the best hat ever the top hat. He invented the top heads up. He wore the top had for for the first time ever on this day in seventeen ninety seven in London. It wasn't a top before seventeen. Nope he came up with it and he was charged with disturbing the peace because of the top yes because people were so like what that is that the people around him as he walked down the streets in London and the police lease had this show up and they charged him with disturbing the peace. Charges related dropped. But still. That's the kind of that's that's fashion in rather we'll stop in the street zo at the size of that hat that had his hugh taller had I've ever seen. He wasn't naked wearing the hat. Now here's just in that without him. We wouldn't have the penguin. Think of all the things we lost the the snowman rosty would still be just standing there. Abraham Lincoln what you'd have nothing any magicians uh-huh at duff magicians would be screwed Kampala hat or a rabbi beanie temple rabbit out of a bowler need a top hat the monopoly guy monopoly guy screwed you would be he would just be cold got nothing covering his head on this day in eighteen sixty one you know what I say about the eighteen hundreds Eddie Gripe with adventure so many goddamn inventions. This is one of the great ones. What would we do without L. E. L. Elijah Elijah Breath Elijah Elijah Elisha Otis came up with a pretty important invention? It was the first public elevator. Oh that was scary. The steam powered elevator. There was a steam engine in the basement. And that's the thing that would pull the elevator up and down the floors of department store. It was the hot Watt Company Company. Store in Manhattan and they had the first public elevator in their store. I wanted brakes on it. Actually Elisha Otis is first invention. Was the elevator break okay. He started off making freight elevator right and then he said people could use these but the frail kept plummeting to the ground so so he said we should probably figure something out where that won't okay. At least that was a priority. That was the first step. And then he invented the steam powered elevator. It on this day in eighteen eighteen seventy. The donkey was first used as a symbol for the Democratic Party in a political cartoon in Harper's weekly magazine. Oh why did they say why they did actually. The Donkey was associated with Andrew Jackson's eighteen. Twenty eight presidential campaign. His opponents call Jackson Jackass for his view. All that's right and he was Entertained by the insult and so he would use that image on his campaign posters and eventually a political cartoonist. Thomas NAST started using the donkey as the as the symbol for the Democratic Party. In his cartwright remember that Oh in eighteen eighty two. The first United States ski club was formed. Formed in Berlin New Hampshire. I spent a lot of rich people. Hey what are you doing skin. What are you doing skin do it together? Yeah why not all all right. Michelle Cans Club was born in Nineteen O seven. The first gold dental inlays were used by a dentist. This named William Taggart like what like gold teeth now. A gold fillings stuck gold in your holes in what they used to gold. Gold is used you. Oh that's why they were so much grave robbing going on let because they would still the goal out of people's heads. Now some smells impossible bird I think so I think Reggie wants some some impossible burger licking his lips. I haven't seen him all day and such. He's paying a visit. Actually he might have to go to the bathroom if he's already thrown up in here once. Aw That's nice. I love this dog. I'M GONNA go take him to the bathroom. So we're GONNA put the show on hold again briefly. I don't know I. I don't want dog urine or poop or vomit on my new rug here in the new VAT gave please hold Remain on the line. They representative will assist you shortly Hey there it's Ralph Garman here. I hope you're enjoying the show. And if you are why not subscribe to the Ralph report so you can hear it everyday every day. Monday through Friday for fifteen cents a day you can be a one star general supporter and that will get you the show in your ear holes Monday through Friday of of course there are two three and four star general levels as well which gets you more bonus content and more access to me so if you like what you're hearing why not subscribe go to patriots dot com slash the row report. That's P. A. T. R. E. O. N. DOT COM slash. The report subscribed today. So you don't miss a thing and we're back so we're we're we teeth heath. Oh yeah you know. I had a another tooth I had worked on my dentist often. That great dentist. Yeah no the gray one was the one who fucked me up and I got the new one. Okay who fix my other one right and now on the other side. I had an old filling in there. What are the Amalgam fillings? The Mercury Mercury wants. Yeah so he said we gotta take that out. We're going to fill that in with they use a resin now or something is your tooth enamel. You'll even save and see it any more than so He fixed a one size so I had to go in for the other side and they gave me. Have you ever had the block. Have you ever had a dental work done. Yeah where they stick the Novacaine needle down deep into the vein. That runs down your jaw. I've had to kill the entire out of your face. So they do that. And they jack me up and then they they put a temp in there and they got a mold and they're gonna put it in later so I get home. I'm starving and so they don't eat on it because it's still setting. It's nothing thank. You can't eat regular food. I'm just gonNA eat him soup so I got some lentil soup. You're lentil soup. No so good. got some lentil soup out and I warned that up and and They warn you they say. Don't heat anything up too hot because you won't be able to tell if you're yourself or yeah so I made sure was nice and just lukewarm soup. And I'm eating the soup and I go. I always one something there. It's really chewy. What is God? And I'm chewing adobe and I go and I go in a mirror and I look in the inside of my lip. I had shoot a hole in the inside of model all bitten through my lip. Ah I dea because in my face Oh my God did. They had to put stitches that it was. It was bad but it wasn't like and luckily the inside of your lip heels up pretty quick but It was a pretty good Gash. I'd killing away issue and like an idiot just hyun on my own left. who good real good? I remember any meat taste like the the impossible lip dear God. I'm an idiot. Ah what else. Nineteen fifteen on this day. John Van Wermer was granted a patent for his pure pack with Dick. Take ten more years years before anyone could invent a machine that would actually make what he had designed but he was the first guy to come up with this note it well her pack. Yes it was the milk milk carton. Nineteen fifteen he said and it must be a better way to deliver milk than with these glass bottles. I'm GonNa make something out of paper. And he came up with what he called the pure pack which was the first carton carton. was that old. Well actually I had to wait till nineteen twenty five till someone could figure out how to build it the needed a machine that would fold the paper properly. Mac secure it to mass produce well but he came up with the idea. Nineteen thirty four. John dillinger robbed the first National Bank in each Chicago Indianapolis on this day. It's a dumb named for a city in Indianapolis by the way. He was shot several times. By officer William o'malley but he he just walked away really why why he was wearing a bulletproof vest as march smartest bank robber ever. Wow Wow so you must have been the first bankrupt grabbed. Do that have been yeah. That's genius that had such Good Bank Robin Wright their game for the head nineteen forty three. The world's largest office building the Pentagon was completed on this day the house the US military the reason it was It was ready to go in months prior but the they had to finish one thing thing before they would move people into the Pentagon the bathrooms. Now that's good good go though air conditioning. The air conditioning. Yeah you need that. DC You do imagine the summertime world's largest office building with no air conditioning and swap literal swamp in nineteen forty seven on this day. The brutalized corpse of Elizabeth Short was found in Lammert Park. You're in Los Angeles California. Her case was so famous she later became known simply by the nickname they gave her the coroner's office. The Black Dahlia didn't it is. Is that thing they just found the torso one of their but not in one piece. Dorsey was here and then the legs were there. It was not pretty in nineteen fifty eight this this song debuted for the first time. How could we have frat parties without this song in break dancing Nine hundred sixty one berry gordy signed an all girl. Group called the prime mets to motown records. There were young young girls in fact. They had auditioned for Berry Gordy earlier but they were still in high school and he said come back when you're older but they didn't give up. They kept showing up at motown eventually he relented and allowed them to command command and do some background vocals on some songs do some hand claps on some other songs but they kept wanting to be on motown he finally relented signed the girls to his label under the condition they changed their name. He gave them a list of names. Choose from including suggestions like the Dr Leans the sweet peas the melodies. The royal tones owns the Juliet's they resisted all with them. There's only one name on the list they liked and that was the supremes more music in nineteen sixty five on this day the very first single from this UK band was released here was released in the United Kingdom. I'm here it was released earlier. In December of nineteen sixty four was released in the United States. Here's the first single from a band called the WHO in this day. Nineteen sixty seven. The very first super bowl was played. Actually wasn't the Super Bowl at the time it was the AFL NFL World Championship game. They didn't change the name to Super Bowl until nineteen sixty sixty nine but the first Super Bowl I championship game played between which two teams only in Dallas Right Very Close Kansas City Green Bank Kansas Kansas. Right now think think of the eye of the Ice Bowl nineteen seventy four. A panel of experts reported that the Watergate tapes that were handover by then President Nixon were missing missing eighteen and a half minutes Sure you can have all the tapes. Hey wait a minute. Seems to be some gaps here stuff on him in Nineteen seventy-four also on this day. An eleven year run began for one of the biggest sitcoms of the nineteen seventies in a tasty days. Eleven years on the air. You can't really count those last three. Now they jump the shark it was it was just Ted McGinley Sitcom Killer Anson Williams like three guys left on that show by the nineteen seventy five on this day. Space Mountain opened opened up. There at Disneyland still where the best rides in the park ride in nineteen seventy seven. The first sketch on Saturday night live ever to feature the beloved characters known as the Cone Cohn heads cone heads viewed on this day. That's a funny scale as for those who aren't familiar. It was Dan ackroyd genius idea to have a family me move into a neighborhood that were from another planet but they kept telling everyone they were from France and that would explain how they're giant pointed cone own bald heads that they walked around so much pop culture came out of that scam used to quoted endless live consume mass quantities was every time they ate. Yeah we're from from France and other Here's a little sketch from sorry that live. This is them coming into had cocktails with their new next door neighbors. The fibers played by John Belushi. They thought they were the Coens who had moved in next door and turns out that the got the names lightly row H.. Ah the name is Carmen. We come from France France. Well that explains Everything uh-huh on two thousand two thousand and one on this day. wikipedia was launched on the Internet on. Yeah nineteen years old today. Happy Birthday wikipedia and in two thousand and nine Chelsea. Sullen Burger better known to his palaces. Sully landed a plane on a river. Still stuns me to ever see the movie. I never saw them yeah baton hand it was a good rate never saw three really great He landed US Airways as flight. Fifteen forty nine on the Hudson River shortly after taking off from Laguardia Airport. The miracle on the Hudson became no and then lastly in two thousand nineteen the the World Economic Forum announced that by twenty fifty. The plastic in the world's oceans will outweigh all the fish that live Harrell's oceans frightening. That's fine. I'll be eating impossible burgers by then. I won't mind when everything from the ocean. Everything you're going to need it to digest the impossible burger everything. You'll just be extruded out to me into a platter on an patty and I'll just eat that way. All right You know what I like to do. At this point we talk about a food related day in history. Then we find Eddie. Pence will eat something or not. We're on a bit of a role I have to say. We've done it two days in a row and he's eaten so we'll find out what happens on this day in one thousand nine hundred nineteen in two million gallons of molasses flooded Boston Massachusetts in what is still known as the great molasses flood. Really really yes. There was a tank holding two million gallons of molasses and Boston's North End and the tank burst. God flooding flooding the streets of Boston drowning. twenty-one people died in it and injuring one hundred and fifty only the cleanup had to be all six six months. It took the streets of from the Milan ahead of the slowest moving flood of the smell of molasses lingered for decades according to witness decades. Yes and actually the the the molasses poured out of the tank like a Su- NAMI wave reaching the speeds of up to thirty five miles. Last as-as moved that fast. I know why it's a non newtonian fluid. That's walk right. Of course some people are very excited about non newtonian fluids. Know that none one more than Dwayne who called in to give me the heads up to beg me to talk about non newtonian fluids. Hey Ralph Lane from Long Beach Gone to remind you that January fifteenth this rating Alaska. Split Day CNN Gordon and I was thinking when you bring it up you could Go on and talk about non Newtonian fluids and just increase that value. That we get a little little learn out to the people Man I'm looking forward to it now. Component to it. He's and check. Someone died in the flood. And Yeah I think weirdest thing you've ever masturbated usually are not stopping Non newtonian fluid. What exactly is that well? It's a fascinating topic. It quite frankly. Because most fluids adhere to Isaac Newton's law of viscosity meaning the viscosity of a fluid remains constant thinned independent of any stress. That you put on most fluids will flow in a in a standard regular rate regardless of how much stress is put on them. Ohka okay but there are some fluids known as non newtonian fluids that their viscosity changes when under force. Either they've become more liquid or more solid Alad depending on how much forces put a Pi. It's interesting now. Molasses happens to be one of those fluids so does exempt for example catch up. That's why explodes loads you take ketchup and you shake right. Then it's much more liquid and will flow out of the bottle if you just turn it upside down because it's at rest it stays more solid and it's harder to get out of the year that's why you shake it before. Yeah so molasses is one of those fluids so you would think oh I can outrun a flood of molasses but because caused changes its viscosity and was under such pressure because it was in that large tank was actually swallowing people up and suffocate. Oh my gosh tariff terrifying thing all right so molasses. Today's food usually it's used as a flavoring and a lot of food here in the United States. It's used and well. It's used in Rome. The production of rum of course a whole grain bread sometimes use it barbecue sauces. Some beers are brewed with it. such as stout and porter but primarily here in the states the main thing it's used for is gingerbread every time around the holidays when you eat a gingerbread cookie or a gingerbread house you need to know the molasses was used in making that gingerbread is gingerbread and your bread something that Eddie pence would eat. There's only one way for us to find out. We gotta pull that handle of the patented Eddie Pence Jackpot Slot machine here. We go one gingerbread. You're Batman to wow. This is our a second cookie. I think maybe Bread can be a little spicy it sometimes. No I like a good good spicy drink a little. It's not your usual. I like it with a good snap to it. Sure yet snapped. I don't like them when they're little too soft. You do eat gingerbread men the gingerbread house I don't like the frosting on it. I'll take the frosty off here. We go I take the for A. I'm not a big FROSTING team. Person Cake I like the I like the the whipped frosting worth little. More fluffy like like hard. I don't like the hard frost in to a I Dunno just too sugary. All right. Well look I'm surprised each android gingerbread men on a like a spoonful molasses if I gave it no it's delicious. This is it no. It's sweet Syrup I should have gone with molasses. No gingerbread I'll eat the gingerbread all right three in a row that's it for this day in history. I waited schooled by Ralph Reed College Level Knowledge with attack your got my head's heady number in the back track with a replica that celebrity who loves my beat the nets a rep for the Ralph report. Today you All right let's take a look at the show Biz News in a segment. I call the show Biz. Beat congratulations relations Eddie. What today at some Point Star Wars? The rise of skywalker is set to cross the one billion dollar mark at the global box array array star wars franchise rakes in another million dollars that will make it Disney seventh one billion dollar release in twenty-nine they're letting it can carry over as it was released last year. That's nuts and men game at two billion so it's an eight billion dollars worth of movies in seven films in seven film. Eight billion dollars not too shabby right. Are we talking about huge franchises. It has been announced that billy I which will be recording. The James Bond theme came to the new film. No time to die really. Yeah so choice. It sounds like here's the thing it doesn't bother me I think she's very talented but lately they they have been on a run of trying to get whoever is the hot music news to do the title and that seems a little thirsty to me as as little bit just a little bit little too desperate trying a little bit too hard. This'll make Relevant let's get billy I should do our themes then. It won't be a fifty year year old franchise. Just let it be James Bond. Just just do the best theme song you can get with rest people. Don't worry about who's hot. Susil who wanted to Dell do unto to skype Guy Flight at sky fall to youtube the hot thing at the time exactly but they do it. They've done it for years years they did it with Madonna. Did it with grandchildren with Aha. I mean whatever is in the news music wise they they will try to grab that person in sometimes doesn't age that well like Madonna's Aha's yeah anyway let's Hans. Zimmer is going to do the music for dinner if I mentioned that number. That's good that's good news. He's he's super town. Hey it's my favourite crime ongoing crime drama Operation Varsity Blues. I don't walk walk your life. You know this is the rich people trying to buy their way their kids way into college. Felicity Huffman actually did some time because she got busted member her excuse. She was tearfully. Tearfully saying in court. I was afraid my daughter wouldn't get into good acting school because she's not very good academically and at the time we said you're an idiot. Your husband's Bill Bill. macy and your daughter is not going to need to go to acting school. She wants to get into acting very no every casting director in town. That's all it matters other kid didn't go to acting school and guess what she just got a huge role in season two of the twilight zone. The revived series by Jordan Peele. The nineteen year old is going to be starring in an episode called ALD among the untried. And she'll be the lead in the episode it turns out she didn't have to go to a high profile online school at all. At least this didn't her career at all. Yeah probably did it better that everybody was talking about her speaking at A. CW was announced re-booting Walker. Texas Ranger Oh why because because that's a name that people might recognize from thirty years ago not with Chuck Norris though right now. They're using jared paddle lucky who jared petty lucky. He was one of the stars of the long-running Supernatural series. Okay okay okay okay. In fact the series pre debt that predated the network was on the WB and then they kept when they changed over to the w kept it. But I was on the Air I think like twelve seasons or something anyway. The show is done but they're not letting him go. They're going to stick him gene Walker to the rolling Walker Texas Ranger No. Why would it matter if he was just Steve Texas Rangers Oklahoma Cop Al Rhode Island Parking Enforcement Officer? Just stop stop it. Stop Supernatural isn't original idea right now that ran for everyone else. Did two brothers trying to I forget I never saw the show and it was like two dollars. It was great thing down demons or something. It wasn't that original but still lasted forever. It wasn't named after something else for God's Sakes and this is great news. Lastly Cardi B. is she wants to get into politics. Got My vote. Why not one? That's the way I look at this point. Here's the thing if you have a turn in the toilet yeah you don't you don't just gently flush because it might just linger stick around and float ever you give it a good hard flash. Because it's it's over all of get rid of it all it's a government now is just a turn. Yes a less. Just flush everybody and let in rappers Gameshow hose just. What the hell? Everything doesn't matter soon. There's GonNa be more plastic in the ocean than fish. So what are we fighting so hard. We're we're literally literally circling the drain. So might as well go as fast as possible She has someone supporting her high profile. Political name has come forward to support her. Did you see this is this yeah I think yeah I think I know who Bernie Sanders Bernie. Sanders has stepped up and said she would be great in politics. Cardi B. is deeply concerned about what's happening in the country. The he said she knows what it's like to live in poverty and struggle. It would be great for her to bring that experience to politics as someone who's not polling well with the African American vote is trying to pull with the African. American vote is that that's what it seems like. Here's what she announced via twitter. I think I want to be a politician. I really love love government even though I don't agree with government. She spelled government wrong by the way of course she did her biggest caused by the way that people who no her say is the environment she is really concerned with fresh air. In particularly it's very important to get fresh air. Certain parts of her to imagine her State of the Union. Oh my God my pussies so so so hot right now so full of water order. Why Not Stigler? Today's celebrity birthdays. All these stars. Born on this day January fifteenth guitarist. Adam Jones of the band tool is fifty five years old today by Actress Andrea Martin seventy-three three from. SCTV damn good things she seventy-three rapper. Pit Bull is thirty nine years old. I Dunno now. SORTA I guess when he announces for Holiday Ticket that with President pit bull and Vice. Vp Cardi B.. Perfect the perfect pit bulls thirty nine years old this guy with the Dalai things with the songs. How confused ooh yeah pump album beggars tonkin thrown? Back it up like a town could back it up like a tow truck dollar worldwide actor. Chad Lowe is fifty two years old today so many awful people in the world. The electric dance musician. Scroll IX is thirty two years old today. Skirl of mistaken is also the name of Cameron Diaz his new daughter. RADIC'S SCROLL IX is thirty two years old today this fucking song. You may remember. He did this with dip low and Justin Bieber enough of that music. How Actress Regina King Forty nine years old today? Have you seen a watchman all that. It's such a good series any of it. I I talked to everyone's saying it's the best thing if you're a fan of the original comic is such a good. Yeah I gotta get on board that. An actress Dove Cameron Disney's own from Leuven Mattie and the descendants twenty four years old today you were probably spared the descendants phenomenon. Because you got a boy yeah Having a daughter it was all descendants all the time the descendants of the Disney deal his of all the Disney villains who are bad to begin with but then they turn over a new relief and then they have to fight against their own parents to protect the kingdom. That's now run by beauty and the beast okay again. We're talking about things you do for your kids kids. Yeah I would watch this with my kid. There's three of them by the way is three descendants and I gotta say catchy is God really. I got totally caught up in it. I'm like sitting there watching so does now know that her mother is on the way from Evil Island dicamba. We're having deep conversations about it however you can connect connect with your kids. The music was catchy. The choreography these kids are talented. Here's a little bit from descendants too. They can't yeah I did that was starting my kid's a star wars nut so so that's that that brought me back was a struggle for you. It wasn't a struggle in our wars. We connect with it and he we have conversations about it so it's the same thing. Yeah it's true. I suppose assists you know. That's it for today celebrity birthdays. I'm Ralph Garman. I walked the show. Bisbee all right and because it's Wednesday what we'd like to do is take a look at a smash hit song that I'm sure you'll remember done by an artist who never really enjoyed that kind of success again. We call those people. One hit wonders the one hit wonders. It's a very common tale. All right this is a classic. I can't believe we haven't talked about this sooner. I want to thank Brenda. Who suggested this one? The artist today Her given name. Anyway she was born Antonia Christina Best. A Lotta any guesses as to what major metropolitan city she was born in depends her home in town. And if you have an idea you wanna you wanNA venture an idea when venture a guess Philadelphia. The SL Antonio's family did however move to Las Vegas and it was there that she learned how to become a dancer. Start off as a cheerleader in high school and then went on to become a dancer and in fact a huge choreographer. She worked with some of the biggest names Ames in show business in music videos television and in movies she choreographed along with David. Byrne the music video for once in a lifetime. For example. She did work with David. David Bowie on several of his tours. Work with Bette Midler Tina Turner. She choreographed American graffiti. That thing you do legally blonde peggy sue got married a charter. Wilson's war the house. Bunny at the age of seventy five. She choreographed once upon a time in Hollywood all the dancing film huge choreographer but she's also a singer. Her singing career began in nineteen sixty six which he recorded a single for an am records that went nowhere and she did a couple other attempts at singing with no real success however it was in the in the early nineteen eighties. Nineteen eighty one to be exact that she heard a song by another band and she said I could cover that and make that a hit now. The band was a British pop. Group called racy and in nineteen seventy nine. They released a song called Kitty City. She heard that song and said I think I could do some of that. Here's the original song and see if you can guess what song we're talking about. It took. I'm sure you know by now. We're talking about Toni. Basil Choreographer Dancer extraordinaire who had a smash hit song in nineteen eighty one when she took kitty and she said what am I saying that. From a girl's point of view we gotta change the name. She Changed Kitty to Mickey. And could you go anywhere and not here you know over all over. MTV and all over MTV and over here is Nineteen eighty-one Mickey. Hey uh-huh uh John Man that video it was all over TV constantly and it's funny. Because as I mentioned she was a cheerleader and she reached back to that world early. She was thirty seven at the time. I think she did that. Vintage seventy-five wants more time in Hollywood. Yeah see did all that cheerleading stuff and was one of the biggest video on MTV at the time in fact she released a song in nineteen eighty one did not chart and then they reissued it in nineteen eighty two once. MTV started playing the video and it was a smash and was number two in the UK number one in Australia and number one here in the US in Canada as well by late. Nineteen eighty two a year and a half after its original release. It was a smash hit Song International. It also started a big controversy because many groups. I'm sure the one million MOMS had they been around. The time would have been complaining about it said it was a obscene Sompong and should not be on the radio. Why many people like rock critic Robert Chris cow by the way said the lyrics were so obscene that they not should not be allowed to be played on the radio? One lyric in particular Eddie Pence. Here's the lyric. I'm going to play for you. I will pray for you for you. See if you can guess why they thought it was obscene. Yeah Okay I could see. I'll take it like a man too many what you can. They say that was promoting anal sacs. That she get like a man is what she was asking asking to get but fucked by. Mickey she'll take it any way you can take it like a man meaning it. I'll take it in the can well. And and they said that is disgusting those lyrics and not be allowed to be played on American radio. It's great everybody should take it in the camp says Eddie Pants the man who loves them. Say Experiment Have Fun. I'm just saying that was never intended at all. No of course not what you have to remember is the song originally was a song called Kitty. Yeah written by a boy's point of view about his girlfriend so he was saying I'll take it like a man. I'll be able to handle you. Mickey she changed the name. But you never changed any of the lyrics so convert into inadvertently. This song sounded like she was asking for anal sex but that that was not the I like the song even more. I bet you do there. You go that's Today's one. One hit wonder as you can imagine toni. Basil never really had another success like Maki she is. Today's one hit wonder. Aw One hit wonders very common tale will take it like a man for today's show boys and girls easy with with an impossible worker coming out all lube wwco imposter. Bill lived up with anal leakage. Please I don't think he a byproduct of the apostles we'll say we'll give you an update on tomorrow show. That's reason enough to come back right. And if you don't need more reason to come back you guys have masturbated in weird places. Yeah Tomorrow's topic on Sex University University. You the beloved garden me will be featured as we talk about weird places that you've pleasure yourself This stems of course from that story of the guy who was in the restaurant in Oregon took fifteen cops in a teaser to stop them from masturbating. Where's the weirdest place you ever masturbated? I'm still collecting stories. So feel free to give me a call on the Ralph report hotline or send me an email email at Ralph Ralph report dot Com tomorrow. We'll go through the many places that you wait. Did the deed come on. How can you not listen to that? Show right doing Eddie's anal leakage. Where did you masturbate? Now we're going to send this one to the museum. I love you I mean it by.

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You've been talking about has been in the works for a long time Christmas yet. Okay. So is one of those things that once it's over that's going to be like a letdown of our. What's next? I don't know. I mean, it's a jam packed full on, but I mean, this is like a for your for your girlfriend. It's like a, a big perfect once in a lifetime kind of thing going to see Aerosmith going to be high rolling in Vegas in the Calvin Harris concert with her, her boyfriend wearing a suit and. Handing out butterscotch. Oh man. Yeah. They're going to charge me extra with what I get there. You come. Where are you going? When I told you, they, they charge, they charge, I it's thirty dollars off forgot the numbers, but like it's thirty dollars for for it says women's to get thirty dollars guys to get forty five and then the IP is one hundred and five one hundred ten for a woman and one hundred twenty five for a gun. That's crazy is insane. And then yet Reagan's when I get to the door, they'd be, I'm your isn't going to be one sixty who you looking for. Wayne Newton is now now. Was sixty five no, no, sir. I don't need a ludens. You know, want to split a sticker juicy fruit with. I remember my daughters. Are you going? If you stop you at the door, excuse me, play, where you waive her you keep come. Yeah. She doesn't need a chaperone. We got it from here. My god. You can go back to the room pops. We'll take it from here. Because wait. Yeah. I mean it might be done in Marie at the Flamingo. Face TJ, raise connected, funny, funniest TJ show. Rob brought us a little sample of. Call pillows. Yeah. They're pretty good. I haven't had one yet. Have you had Reagan? No, they're little. Filled with cinnamon roll. There's like cinnamon rolls. Aren't they feel with cinnamon? Icing is the cinnamon goodness is delicious. Here's the problem, though. And rob confirmed without asking, I say it seems like he said, if you go to put them in. I got had some if you, if you put them in milk that you've gotta eat fast. Yeah. That they're better as, as a dry snack than in mill because they're going to they watered down to get soft prevacid. Yeah. That's like, oh, no, I need to try them in some you're making fur, try to with the meal. Just you got you can't you can't fool around. You. Got to get on it. Yeah. Or eat them like you. Do we do Orioles? We just put the Oreo in your mouth, and then take a sip of mirror behind, and then she would all up together. Yeah. You could tell that would get mushy really quick. Yeah. But they are delicious and almost like a cookie therefore delayed Schiff action not be a breakfast food is with it. Well, you know, people say that about serial be in to Sweden and all that. But if people donuts for breakfast, and that's sweeter than them. Somebody would freak out if you a little Debbie brownies for breakfast. But then you can go to crispy cream and get to cream filled doughnuts and be just the same amount of sugar at all even worse when I wouldn't kill a couple of little Debbie brownies, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Thank you for that idea. TJ. Yes. You break them apart or the whole little thing. No. Usually just go whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I eat both of them. But I break it apart. I really oh you met with when the, the square you break. The gets a rectangle into to break that in the two squares. Yes, I'm gonna ate. But I ate that whole piece is one. Yeah. That's what I thought you meant. Yeah. When I break it open, he's like just to bites, and it's barely a brownie. It's so dense it's almost like. Thank you very much. Like, have you ever seen perforated saltines where you have to break them apart? I don't think so I haven't seen those as I was a little kid. He there was it was a big sheet of crackers and perforated, and you would break it into four little squares like you have now is the big box crackers. And you could break it. You could also take one whole one of those and spread peanut butter on it, and take another one time, have a giant peanut butter, crackers sanguine. Sign me. The sea salt teens. That's one of those things where. I gotta have brand a certain brand of saltines. They're not as good Zastava is, is the best ones to me in the red box bit better than premium in the white premium second, I'm okay with either I'm good. With either one, I haven't insulting in a long time, but they're delicious. Oh, so good. Unless you you've been indulging in some marijuana. Salting that we used to be a thing in college where he'd get like super baked, and then you'd have like a saltine challenge and see how many saltines you could eat with dry mouth can get from smoking marijuana, and it was always just really funny to do. I don't know that stupid. I shouldn't have. I wish I could go back to thirty seconds. Does it make your mouth dry? When you smoke them early. Yeah. Hey read, Harry out of curiosity. Have you ever talked about anything like that on the show? And one of your parents said he Leyla. Hey, what's that about? Yeah, I'm I'm a radio person. It's like a character thing, the whole thing, deal with me. It's not the same thing. Heard people talk about in college. While I'm not social Nuff to be able to go and do that with people. Yeah, come on. Keep keep everything in a bushel basket, exactly. Exactly what your mom's said your, your emotions or your personality hide your light under a bushel basket. So. Oh, wow. Yeah. She has those moments I'm like, wow. You hide your light under a bushel basket. What the hell do you? Is that? TJ. Group therapy happens again today. Eight twenty eastern seven twenty central is always a member of the radio family desperately needs our help. 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That, that friends is what we do here on the ace, in TJ show that is it right there. I know my neighbors at sky house were hating me this more. Forty five. My dog was barking because he hated the music. And it was loud. It was a mess. Credited to edit this. There was one in there that sounded like. Held it out for a second. Sounded like stomach was growling. Remember but. There's a woman right? I love it. So the regular girls think that's funny. Think says, I mean, Larry regular girls maybe not. This is the ACT J show. Those that one hit wonders of the ten best of all time. Well, the eleven bestselling one hit wonders of all time. There's one of the top five kind of come out of nowhere that you while. Okay. That makes. So there next thing you're connected, funny with the ACT J show. More J covet up. 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Hey, it's TJ and I wanna tell you about my recent stay at the Ballantyne. You know, the second you walk in, you know, you're in a fancy hotel is not only beautiful, but the staff goes out of their way to make sure you have the most luxurious experience of your life to go to the Ballantyne dot com and see all the great things you can enjoy everything from their spa to golf. They're beautiful pool. Fine restaurant and everything else, a true luxury hotel provides. So book your stay now at the Ballantyne dot com. I really think you're going to love it. This is the TJ show. You know the. The one hit wonder is this something that really started being paid attention to after the eighties, because the eighties was full of one hit wonders with all those property English bands. That would have just one hit, and it would be huge. And then you'd never hear from them again. Block a seagulls was one in the eighties, that was a big Toni basil. Even little children made no Mckee USA find you blow my, my hey, Mickey Mickey. But then we went awhile without having many one hit wonders. And so as as of late, as people say, who are trying to sound precise. There have been more and more of these pilot and we're not even paying attention to realize until right now. Business insider put together a list of the top selling one hit wonders over the years. There's no real definition of how they used one hit wonder. But here's the thing, that's my favorite publication. They pulled the eleven bestselling one hit wonders of all time. They're all from the two thousand except for three. All right. What why is business insider doing this? They do these kinds o because it sales about sales. That money. So the three that don't make a number eleven. Who is by tag team tag team back again from? Number Tam, plain white, t's. Hey, there, Delilah. Also while SAS is number nine. Is one of the other ones. That's not from the two thousand mock arena by Los del Rio. I love that number eight lips of an angel by hinder from two thousand six. Oh, yeah. Where he pronounces the word light instead of late. My you. You. So. Roddan by sorry, number seven like a g six by far east movement. Number six riding by Camilion air. All right. So I only trust being eyebrow. Some ladies with me. I mean, I'm plus ten I've brought my DJ me down. I mean we go in. So here are the five biggest one hit wonders the five best selling one hit wonders of all time. They're all from the two thousands except for one that one's coming up with a second at number five. Brockton. Pretty cool comes. Legacies. Two thousand fifty times plant. Hand. Designing. Right. So number four. Couldn't watch me. Nine point didn't get more. Six times platinum twenty. Bestselling one wonders of all time at number three from twenty twelve. Maybe wanted to. What everything? Six times plant over six million souls. That oughta be coming out of a studio. That's just a giant mushroom in the forest. Just like a little hill or gnome of some sort. Here are your best selling one hit wonders of all time. The lone top-five injury. Not from the two thousand going all the way back to nineteen eighty two. And didn't they have a Ballard that was a hit? They had several were hit. That's why it's so weird. Are they saying it just vastly out? Forbade two more songs that were top tins on high on us. One of. And the search is over was. You will with me and then just for the best selling one hit wonder of all time from two thousand eleven over eight millions old. Jay, somebody. Biggest Philly what it wonder of all time over he billion. Soul. I wonder what the reaction of, of the people's when they bought in that one hit was out, and it was tearing up world, and I go and buy the entire album in their listened to it going with the rest of this sucks. It's kind of like going to a movie where all the funny parts were in the trailer. Yeah, you know what? What is what's going on? Twenty eleven streaming was still in an infancy. So you're still going in downloading entire albums. Well. Thank you. This is the TJ show. When you're using a travel site to book your bake shit where you're going to stay. All you may want to do a little bit more investigation than we've been doing so far. There are two ladies, who tried to take their dream vacation to the UK, and what they found when they got there with their lodging was shocking. The we'll give you this information. So it doesn't happen to you. Coming up next TJ show in stay connected. Funny on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, just search for the show, more ace and TJ next want to save up to seventy five percent on domestic or international airline tickets. Then call low cost airlines for prices. So low, we can't publish them. Call eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen. Coming up on the ace and TJ show. Are you if you love being in the relationship there parts of it, you just want to opt out? Gonna hopped out of that. If I could do that. We'd get along just fine. I'd be the perfect boyfriend slash husband slash wife slash girlfriend that you could ever imagine lemme opt out of this part of it. Use Regan's as an example for that he just finds out. Day two. Birth. Thank you are. Okay, these ladies in, it's either in Tel-Aviv, or somewhere in Israel, where they live. They are a mother and daughter Christine, and Tonia. They own a bed and breakfast Intel Aviv, so they love traveling and checking out other other lodgings and things like that. So they'd always wanted to go to the UK for some reason. These people who are obsessed with going to Europe's. I got friends the tree and now is, is going to Italy. Everybody wants to go to Italy. Awesome. Oh, yeah. I lost Nutting in Italy. That. Right. And how man so they booked this four star hotel through booking dot com. All excited. They get there. They the cab drops them off in front of their hotel, which is not only still under construction construction has been called off. It's a half built hotel, that's starting to crumble, because the the, the construction had to be ceased. So there's not even a it's not open at all. No. It looks like a like a deserted area, construction area that's kind of roped off and they said, it's just the hallways are crumbling, and the stairs, or are leading to know where it's just an unfinished building. And they go to across the street to the hotel across the street and the guy says, you not the first people who. Looking for that? But yeah. So, you know, luckily they found other lodgings and then booking dot com that they'd been refunded everything in full. And they didn't know what happened or whatever. But if you're doing these online booking things I don't know. I wouldn't have checked any farther than that. They got pictures. It's official. You paid the deposit you got everything done. And the next thing you know, you're gonna show up punch in the code on the on the door. I don't know what it doesn't give suggestions. What further questions you should ask other then are you sure the building is complete is this is this a building that has been completely Bill? Yeah. You actually assume when you see the hotel on booking dot com, and there's a picture there that, oh, this is a, a hotel ready for occupancy. Why does in booking dot com? Take down the listing for they did. They didn't know either. Oh, okay. They didn't know but I bet we don't have time to do it now. But let me make it no Regan's. We may be able to do Airbnb horror stories that people could call, but not in this Airbnb with that type. That's generic term. I don't wanna wanna get sued or anything, you know what I mean. People written out their own their own stuff. You go in there and rent it and. They lift their baby. I mean, I don't know there can be all kinds of horror stories like that. Buildings not done. That's pretty bad. That's the worst, by the way, I know you're here on vacation. But if I could be here at one o'clock tomorrow. That'd be great because guys come by to get a key to fix the yet. Hey sorry. I got not building my day around that ace. Would you would you rent your place out, for like if you were going to be gone three months? Would you got a longtime? Yeah. Would do that. But, but not like for an Airbnb weekend kind of thing out of that would not. It's not my thing. I don't like people must I don't think I could do it, even if I were going to be gone three months, I may get a, you know, somebody that I know ask if they wanna stay over there. Well go on, and all they're gonna be gone three months. I'm broke. So, yeah, I would do it. Funny. But other than that, for the weekend thing I just assumed they go through your stuff and I got too much hit. Yeah. I think don't you supposed to put all your stuff in a certain closet and lock it that they, they can't get into and things like that. But would you do it Regan? No, we're not. You wouldn't SAS scared where rob would rob? Would you do that rent out your place? As an Airbnb kind of thing if you're gonna be gone for a long time. No, you wouldn't want people in my stuff. He put your stuff up my stuff is everywhere. But how many how many olive garden's could you? You make off of that you could rent it out. Yeah. Can't imagine strangers just being him out. Yeah, I off in the middle of summer, Robert of Teleki. You're going to need a coat heavy coat because it's about forty five degrees in here. It all the time. Well Regan's to gives the sixty five the whole time. That's awesome. I love that insane terrible personal AC in my bedroom. That's one of those bucket lists things of whenever I live alone. Yeah. Going to be just set it on sixty five all the time and walk away. Go sixty seventy eight maybe when I go home. My dad is like sweating. It's because my mom won't let them turn down the air conditioning, Seventy-three sweating sweating. You both Jody's parents. Keep it hot in their house so much so that Jody will go. Oh my God. It's hot in here, and she's cold natured. Yeah. Phrasing phrase that come from going through the depression. Depression of living in Louisiana. Depression, general for that. Yeah. The. On now trending with Riggins. We're gonna put ace on the hot seat. One of his favorite celebrities ever is trending today, for the weirdest reason we're going to put them to the test in less than ten minutes, and now trending, the TJ show has everything you need to stay connected, funny. Com and the TJ links to all of our podcasts social media platforms radio affiliates and charities or of the TJ show next. News. And then there's the important stuff the stuff that's trending. Okay. If just in case you missed the last night was the return of the hills. Yes. It's back. And with the return of the hills means the return of the one and only Justin Bobby he's back and what an iconic reality show figure. And he is back in women seem to still think he's very attractive. So if you'll remember Elsie had that classic line. She said, homeboy wore combat boots to the beach explaining about just a Bob. He's a bit of a. Some would say a D Bank, you know, like a tool. He's, he's suffering from Bagheri. Exactly, exactly. But he's backing he was trending all morning this morning. So which one was I that Laguna beach, Laguna beach came, I would lead us to the hills which led us to Spidey sense. Right. Heidi Montana, and the whole thing, one of the most iconic reality show couples ever. I like that. I'll Drina yes yes, she's my favorite. So that's how they brought Justin Bobby back because they dated. And then eventually, they broke up Drina got married, but now she's divorced. So then guess who shows up to have dinner, without Drina just involve a heroes in L, E, so gross. But women mind him wildly attractive. So he's back in. So as I dream and Spidey, and I'll be curious to see how well that does for them because that's a, that's a generational time stamp if you're a hills fan that's specific group of years. But it means it means nothing to anybody outside that, that timeframe, but it means a lot to people who grew up with that it's a huge deal. Yeah, absolutely. But uses Spencer had held onto a following through his Instagram stuff, right? Regular Snapchat because he's crazy. He's crazy. And really funny, he, he made a thing out of like feeding hummingbirds on his deck. That's really what blew up, and he would freeze with little cups of sugar water, and he would Snapchat himself, just like standing in one position for ten minutes as these hummingbirds landed on him, and he made a hat that held the feeders and just out of his mind, but those crystals into crystals and like super highly concentrated, cappuccino, or Espresso. So listen to Taylor swift blasting and drink this Espresso and just spasms out on. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen on Snapchat. But yeah, he's, he's kind of kept it going. There still noxious though him and Heidi in the in the hills reboot. So you can go check that out ace's bigger her hills now. And she. Still pretty, yes. She went on. She got her money's worth. Yeah. For sure for there's a new, there's a celebrity on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. And if you don't know what Rolling Stone is. It's a music magazine for old people. Can you name the celebrity, do you know who that is a tall that is halls with no makeup in a tight curl on her head? She's, she's gorgeous. She sporting some pretty she's armpit hair. Yeah. Just like kind of stubble ish year. See, you know what I can see through the beauty of her. And I can I can look past that the superficial part of it the surface of how pretty she is and see her for what she really is. Which is someone who cancels my vote. So I don't care. I don't have a thing for her. She cancels my vote, every time she does. I know she was getting a lot of. Flack over the armpit haired, he'll leave her alone, people just go away. He's weird. Everybody knows she's weird, right? Sedated that let's that fake sent wasn't a GE's g easier. Thing about bubbly and a clue this bubbly this lovely. Come on thirty five. Thank you. Caption cap show, my Instagram. Well. That's amazing. And it is also national catfish day. So if you. I don't really have any palsy onus, national catfish, as in fooling someone on the internet's or actual catfish, that, you eat fish fried, delicious treat the actual calf issue. Good. So noodling. No. I don't do that. Either. Yeah. Absolutely. All those things are not sure. And if you don't know what noodling is, is when you get in the murky dirty water and catfish live on the bottom. They're bottom feeders, and you feel around with your feet until you touch one of these big catfish, and then reach down and have it bite your hands. So you can grab it and pull it up with your hands. That's how you do that. There's a really hot girl on YouTube, that noodle. She's from the south somewhere. I think from Alabama. She's from Connecticut. Shocking. The hamptons. Okay, your relationship would be great, if you could just opt out of one part of it, try to make a deal negotiate meet in the middle. We're going to dive into Reagan's pass to try to help you with your relationship coming up next. Alexa, play a TJ. Funny and it's easier than ever to tell your devices, you want the TJ show. More of the ACT J show Riggins is would what how old do you turn today? Thirty to thirty two single ready to mingle. But not really. So don't start sending a bunch of messages and out with you. And you're only gonna get hurt in that, if you get your hopes up in that deal, because he, he will ghost you before he even talks to you. They can go from the beginning. Yeah. But he had a relationship a few years ago that lasted for was it two years, y'all dated, and almost three almost three years, and he always says that he would he wasn't a good boyfriend in certain instances because he didn't. He didn't like doing things. So do you think Riggins, if you could have had a deal with her, or any other woman that you're seeing you could just opt out of a couple of things that relationship people do and you'd be perfect? And you'll be happy if they could just accept that. Absolutely. So other than opting out of going to weddings, which is the ultimate thing that ended up being the demise of the relationship was the straw that broke the camel's back when she was there were supposed to be going to one of her friends weddings, and he forgot his pants and couldn't leave on time. And she left without him, would it be just opting out of weddings or opting out of weddings and spending time with any of her friends ever? Yeah. Probably those two because they're her friends are not my friends, and I have a hard time faking after a certain point. So I'm down for three to five dinners or hang outs. But after that, I, I'm not best friends with this. I, I might find them very appealing Reagan's three to five year or three to five over the lifetime of the relationship. Let's say over the lifetime. Yeah. Because you don't even wanna go have dinner with your friends. Exactly. A. Why would you wanna go have dinner with somebody else's? Exactly. And again, that's why I was a bad boyfriend in some aspects and some aspects a great boyfriend. But if, if she would have just been reasonable enough right to let you make that deal. No weddings ever in three to five. Hang outs with her friends over the course of the relationship. Yeah, y'all would be just as happy as you could be. Exactly. There's a couple or get some better friends. Even though you wouldn't you wouldn't want to be hanging out and do things. I want to spend time with you. I'm dating new. I'm not dating all your friends, and that's why the Spice Girls, you know, when they said, if you wanna be my lover, you gotta get with my friends. No, I don't me. What about family, though? If family fine with. Okay. So you're going and hanging out with her family. Yeah. Because I'm gonna have to ask her to do this thing. All right. So would there be a number completely? This is you're going into a negotiation here. So you got to ask for what you want. Yeah. With their be a certain number times you would go to her family's versus how many times you would she would go to yours like twice as much go into yours? No, I would break it up evenly. You say major holidays. Yeah. Okay. Thanksgiving. Christmas Easter on donating her family wonder doing both in, you know, figure out a way to do in both. Okay. Okay. But opted out of weddings opting out of spending time with her friends. Yep. I think a lot of guys would go for that not one to be around their free fringe thing, especially because of bunch of girls together to some guys, not me of course, but to some guys, it gets kind of nerve wracking and, and girls together, we'll leave the guy out of things you know, they got their own little inside. Jokes that men don't think are funny and vice versa. Men have same thing, women. Don't think are funny, but they are right every time and yeah, I've got one more like having a separate bit every girl, I've ever shared a bed with turns into like a furnace, and I can't sleep hot like get your home. I don't care if the right next to each other, but like you're so hot and I gotta be cool. Okay. So you would opt three can't you can be in a great relationship with the Reagan's. If you allow him to opt out of spinning anytime at all with your friends, sleeping in the same bed together. And going places, essentially, okay? Easy. Big new. I think in my current relationship. Which would, which most people would call a marriage. I would like to opt out of ever ever having to empty the dishwasher. I hate that. I hate issue. Or. Watching videos of Luke Bryan's wife on Instagram. I would like to opt out of that. It's very specific. But I had to tell Jodie the other day she came showing me on these videos, she's so funny. And she funny funny, she is in Luke Bryan. Mom is funny on those videos. But I finally had to tell Jodie your funny on that she's fine. She's, you know, it's okay, she's pretty seems like like a fun person to be around. But I'm she's not funny to me your funnier than she is. So. Thanks, so. Well, maybe I need to start doing some videos. Yes, you do. Yes. In. I don't know if I'd opt out of anything because I really don't do that much other stuff that I that I don't like. I'd like to not here when the kids are having trouble with school and stuff. If I could opt out of listening to that, that would be good. You know, any kid problems, not my problem you're often out of your kid's life. No. I'm there to have fun with them because I don't wanna know any of their you know, the healing. Yeah. The struggling part of their life. Yeah. Why would I want to know that? I mean good boy. So what do you have in your relationship ace, would you opt out of her tail and you have Dr goal girlfriend touring, the driving telling me what to do in driving in the hand gestures when driving and other drivers at opt out? On the air. Opt out of when she can't sleep anger. Rough night last night. She didn't sleep. Well, the dog was bothering her dog. And maybe she threatened to kill the dog. I don't know. But then at one point, I said, what can I do to make it better? She you go back to story you go back to snoring. Oh. Okay. That's what I was doing. Yeah. She gave you the good option. I kid out that I'm over here sleeping and what I'm supposed to be doing. Don't get mad amigos. I'm sleep. And you're not. But, but you don't do anything, though, that you, you don't really wanna do that. You would opt out of like, not really. I enjoy people being around stuff, whatever. All right. So what do you have the perfect relationship, if you could just opt out of one part of it? What's that part one triple eight forty one as TJ or DM's on the social media's I need to find out what she would opt out of to report back on the second. Try our or the iheartradio app on Android auto and apple carplay. It's never been easier to get connected funny in the car and listened to the ACT J show. More ACT, Jay. This is the ace in TJ show. New. In your relationship. Your relationship would be way, better almost perfect if you could just opt out of one part of it like Aaron. This is perfect. She said, one hundred percent opt out of ever having to watch action movies or Star Wars. I agree on the Star Wars thing. But I like the action movies. There's a lady named Chelsea that said watching him play video games. Oh, that's I would rather watch paint dry. Well in fairness to him you can go, he's not asking you to watch video games with him. He might be might be if he is. And he's a psycho, like who wants an audience of video game in your house. No way. Well, my, my son head is Chuck watching him play video games. And then he switched games. And uncle Chuck says, hey eighteen put back on that fishing show. We was watching. Was a fishing video game was doing a fishing video that was a fishing show. If you drink fishing show, we was watching and put it back on their booed. On. Ronca said we don't live together, but I would opt out of him. Always wanting me to come over and help clean. I mean, I have my own house to keep going. To help clean, how would opt out of letting him drive. He drives fast for me. But claims he's a wonderful driver. He lives by the words of his father told him, you got to be aggressive out there. In driving classes. They say defensive defensive. Be aggressive out there. Clay said, I would opt out of picking baby names. We're not even engaged. Oh, here's one where this, this lady Caitlyn would like to just opt out of her nature because it says, I would out of laundry. Oh my goodness. I mean that's a woman's nature to do. Right. You can't go against what you know what the Lord planned for you to do. Yes. Religious that is right TJ. If the Lord wanted men to do laundry, he wouldn't give giving women those high hips to put a laundry basket on, we don't have that. Okay. Gotcha one for a baby one for laundry basket. Those hips those beautiful hips that women. Made for laundry and babies and a Bs. My girlfriend sent hers, what she would opt out case you don't know there's a little bit of an age difference between the two of us. And she said, I would opt at three things. One hour opt out of your OCD to our and opt out of you always falling asleep early on weekends. Ooh. Okay. Because we meaning on Friday night early. And Finally, I would opt out of the constant old rock songs you play while being radio hog. Oh, yeah. That's a big deal. Most of all of the ones that you said about each other or not, really, part of the theme of, of this. But just like what are you not like about your significant other? I don't like this this, this. It's basically. I'm tired that you're so old. You're tired of just being so grouchy and, and aggressive. I wish I wasn't dating the man from the little old man from up based. TJ. There's a bride who's running a scam on her bridesmaids. Watch out ladies, even your besties when it comes to their weddings, put a knife, right and your back before they cut the cake with it. It's coming up next. Just one dollars as an deejays radio. Family terry. We're ready campaign. Monday on for immediate help members of our radio. Family might need J dot com and the DJ at the radio Bailey, one dollar link to donate. Coming up on the TV show. It is this week. Could it should have group there? I honestly cannot remember what it is. That's good. Just got a message from a sad lady that listens to us all the time. She said, I was waiting on the weekend blast off. But it's Tuesday. Wow. Wow. Okay ride. A morning thing. I don't know if this is true or not in this could be an old story that I'm just now seeing that it came from the read it. Somebody posted a story of on a wedding shaming Facebook group about a bride who got busted for trying to rip off for bridesmaids. She in the maid of honor cooked up some kind of a scam where they said to the other bridesmaids addresses costs, four hundred dollars when the only cost two hundred dollars and they were gonna use the extra money to pay for the bride's dress. But one of the bridesmaid's figured it out when she went into the store to try on the dress and saw that it was only two hundred dollars. And so the other four bridesmaids dropped out of the wedding man. What a dirt bag. How sorry is that though? So these ladies are standing up for you, because they believe in you. They're your friend, probably lifelong friends in many cases, they're super close. They're spending money, not only for the dresses. But for wedding gifts. It'd be a part of this whole thing. And you're gonna scam at two hundred dollars a piece. Me as messed up a relief trashy. I don't blame them for, for ditching her either. I wonder if she's ugly. How would that influence? I don't know. Maybe. Because if you're ugly only outside, sometimes it makes you ugly. Right. Right. If that happened to you. Would you immediately drop out of the wedding? Absolutely. Because she's proven, you're really not friends. She would take advantage of you like that right out. I would look at it like a blessing. Yeah. Me too. I don't want to go to that wedding. I mean yeah. And you save money that way. But I. Yep. And k Bain is two hundred dollars a reasonable pretty cheap for bridesmaid's dress. Isn't it? So that's why would be considered you know, not raising up any flags or anything probably with the other ones. When they all go, see how if I even believe this because when they all go try on the dress before they got some. I don't know how. I don't know how. This was I don't know if this how possible this even is because you're going to go try on the dress. You're not just going to show up on the wedding day and all the dresses be there. And this one's yours. Women are funny like that. What they like to try things on, and they don't want to jump into a wedding dress or bridesmaid's dress without trying it on your say women are funny like that. They're liars. No. But then think about this. Poor guy, she's marrying, if this is true, what kind of stuff is he gonna have to deal with all the and what does he do? Now is you have to tell all of his boys. Hey, look man. We, we lost all the bridesmaids. She tried to run a scam. And so the bride's major out so you guys aren't to stand up on just keep the best man everybody else can sit down. It's cool, but, you know, I always look for the silver lining. So another silver lining, for the groom is, she doesn't have any knowing friends left exact that he has to hang out where the b with readings was saying earlier, that's downfall of his relationship, having to hang out with her friends. Nash doesn't have any. Yeah. Just got the one, the one the one, what do you call her maid of honor, almost call it of the best one, but get the idea trust her to be around, because she's a crook to just like the wife. Oh, you know. Oh, you know. So he's, he's footloose and fancy free. He's gotta take this one because I love you. We're gonna get married. But that other one that are that they've do you all around my house? But if you're the guy for the groom do you call the wedding off now? Because she saw. I mean you just found out that your wife to be a sorry, she's a thief. Con artist. She didn't actually steal anything. Okay. I prefer the term cars. Coming. With Regan Wendy's is trending this morning for a link. 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#703 Paisley Underground, The Shangri-Las' Leader of the Pack & Opinions on Tacocat

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#703 Paisley Underground, The Shangri-Las' Leader of the Pack & Opinions on Tacocat

"Sound opinions is supported by goose island pairing beer and music since nineteen Eighty-eight goose island beer company. Chicago, illinois. Listen critically enjoy responsibly from the governor's mansion to reality TV to federal prison WBZ Chicago presents, public official eggs, the story of rod Blagojevich. Download public official a now wherever you get your podcasts. This is Eric glass, and I'm going to be at the auditorium theatre talking about seven things, I've learned in years of interviewing people and making radio stories it's going to be Saturday, June twenty seconds to get WBZ dot org slash events. WBZ chicago. And PR X. This is sound opinions. I'm jim. Dear got us. And I'm Greg Coty this week, we explore the paisley, underground the early nineteen eighty psychedelic scene in southern California that includes bands like the bangles and kind of prince as a super fan. I can't wait to dive in Greg. We'll also take a look at the song leader of the pack by the Shangri laws in honor of its fifty fifth anniversary and will review new music from the pop punk band taco calf. That's all coming up on sound opinions. You're listening to sound opinions and later in the show will review new music from the Seattle pop punk band, taco cat, and will explore the legacy of the nineteen sixty four song leader of the pack in honor of its fifty fifth anniversary. But first, we're going to do one of our periodic John dissections on the movement known as the paisley underground. In the early nineteen eighties in southern California. A new interpretation of an old sound was throwing was led by four critical bands, the bangles the dream syndicate, the three o'clock and rain parade. The paisley underground was all about reinterpreting. Those psychedelic sounds from the sixties influenced by bands like the Beatles and the birds and blending it with post-punk vibe. They used droning guitars driving, drums, and psychedelic lyrics very dark, psychedelic lyrics make an impact on indie rock forever. Even prince was totally smitten with this sound working with the bangles and naming his own state in record label paisley park after that movement. Jim, why don't you set the scene for us early eighties in California? Actually, the suburbs of Los Angeles Davis, California. We have this seem come together of a lot of smart ambitious usually talented, musicians, around a band. We won't. Really talk much about a group called green on red which in my opinion, had more to do with the roots of all countries. They used to have these big old barbecues. Okay. And these kids would come and these kids happen to be members of what would become the dream syndicate, and the bangles and the rain parade. They all are young, you know, and they are discovering this moment of psychedelic exploration in rock and roll in the mid sixty sixty six sixty seven sixty eight largely in Britain some American bands. And they love this music, they love this idea, and this attitude that I can create this thing in the recording studio that transport you to another world, that exists only between the headphones, the recording studio as an instrument psychedelic sounds more expansive lyrics, the idea of transcending the white light. Well, and don't forget punk to Jim. I mean, I think it has to be said this wasn't just a regurgitation, no of those bands that they loved in the sixties. But this was the punk thing was happening then, and you know, bands like X. The blasters were floating around and influencing the way these bans approach the music as well. So these kids have this moment and initially, they're all recording really DIY, really indie underground. So there is this acknowledgement of the past, and there is this element of fashion, where dressing like it's nineteen sixty six car to be street, the boys and the girls, it was always an equal part, male and female movement, just as every banned from Seattle would come to hate the word grunge, the bands in California in eighty two eighty threes. The heyday of paisley underground, we'll come to hate that tag and also love it. I mean it did some good things some bad things Stephen rollback of the rain parade told me, you know that paisley. Underground tag simultaneously. Good and bad. It was good. Because it helped the lot of serious musicians. Get some notoriety and make good music, but it was bad because there were a lot of preconceived notions about what psychedelia. Was I want to start by talking about one record and then we're gonna look at what we consider are the foremost important bands. They get together and they cover some of their sacred heroes on a record. The comes out in eighty three the high point of every one of these bands careers early on rainy day. And so the rain prayed, the bangles the dream syndicate, and the three o'clock get together, swap members and cover songs that they consider inspiration for this new wave of psychedelics. They cover. Bob dylan. Could save you. Two. Key? Nah. Covered the beach boys sloop John B. Buffalo Springfield flying on the ground is wrong big star. They cover the velvets cover Jimi Hendrix, their friends having fun. But they're also laying a road map for sounds that they thought broke ground in the sixties that no one had followed up. And now we're going to pick up those loose threes. Yeah. I think there was an innocence there as well. This is a dark time. I mean, we're talking about the onset of the Reagan eighty Reagan era, we're talking about the cold warrior. We're talking about the nuclear arms build up. We're talking about a raging Lee, bad economy. There was a lot of dispirited people in the youth culture. And I think this music took the brightness and promise of that aside Delia from the sixties and blended, it with the punky those and underrated something that was really unique for its time. Well, let's take these bands. One by one dream syndicate is started by a rock critic. I like the French or tour moment of guitar and Truffaut. Right. These people who love. The art and write about the art and think about the art, then decide, hey, I can make some art. Yeah. Well, these are, you know, largely educated people, their parents, inevitably had pretty cool records to listen to, and they were already steeped in art and culture. When they started to forge their young adult lives in Los Angeles in the early eighties. Steve Wynn is a great example. The driving force in the dream syndicate, the ban name, of course, comes from that is Tony Conrad's dream syndicate, the experimental musician from the sixties creating this drone music. John kale was involved with and other early members of the velvet. Underground. In the village. Underground was a tipping point man for Steve Wynn nineteen. He heard a velvet underground record. The banana album, the debut record. Andy Warhol cover of the banana and never looked back. He said, this is the stuff. This is what I'm a spire to use the phraseology, both of the sixties and the paisley. They saw guy. It's just this. They put on EP self released in eighty two got signed to slash records and then released debut album in nineteen eighty three that is considered a real landmark of the John RA the days of wine and roses on Iraq that to me is a really important document. They had key tracks on that record. Tell me when it's over was the single and to me that was a great little expression of merging. Those sixty sounds with punk sensibility. You know punk rock songs. This is a different sound that really didn't have a context in that era. Thing. Just. You have to remember Greg that shortly after the psychedelic moment it gets reduced in rock history. The shorthand to if you're going to San Francisco, where a flower in your hair, right? It's all sunny, but they're, of course was dark trip psychedelia from the very beginning. And I think the ban took that as far as it could take it. I mean it imploded they only really made for albums in their heyday. You know, the last was ghost stories in nineteen eighty eight. And like many of the bands from this era. They had this five six year window. Yeah. Where there was an incredible explosion of creativity, and then poof, they all kind of disappear. Let professor. Dear goddess inform. The history for the younger listeners. You know, the magic of the indie rock eighties is that there were no stakes. Right. You were not going to be more popular than selling five thousand albums, and maybe college radio would play you and fanzine writers like you went upstate New York or me in Hoboken. Would write about. And that was it. That was superstar success. Every one of these groups get signed to a major label which promptly proceeds to jump up and down on their heads and system out all the regionality as brilliant, as days of wine and roses by the dream syndicate is, I would say the one essential album, if you're going to start with one from the paisley, underground bands, and that moment in southern California in the early eighties is emergency third rail Howard. This is one of those classic bands. The rain parade that had an embarrassment of riches. David Robak is central in the early days, but equally as talented as a songwriter is his brother. Stephen Robak ideas exploding out from these guys in every which way like the dream syndicate. There's also a dark element to their take on psychedelia a sort of more meditative philosophical, tell you, I think was Stephen told me the state of mind, we were in was all really dark the ringing eighties. Right. It was like personal therapy, this music for the band, whereas the dream syndicate jams tended to be noisy. Rain parade's tended to be very much in that psychedelic drone tradition of almost a sitcom. And then you had a wonderful drummer each of these bands, had great drummers, see, I think the secret of psychedelic rock, as opposed to, like, psychedelic jam band, man. Is that it stays rooted in the rock? You know, there's this thing that's keeping our feet on the ground even as our head is in the clouds, you hear that in a song like what she done to your mind or kaleidoscope. Oh my God. Or look at Mary, which is a perfect Brit pop song before by happens in the nineties, or the original bread pop of kinks, and Beatles bands in the mid sixties. So David Robak leaves the rain parade early nineteen Eighty-four. He goes on to do many other paisley underground related projects, including most successfully Mazzy star, which has this moment of success circa, the early alternative. Mary. Dray. None of the paisley, underground bands, we're talking about today, actually survive into the alternative arrow. Although they are one of the many groups that helped pave the way for it in, they all sign or major label they all don't sell millions of units, and they all break up. But they live on in terms of influence. Certainly, I think that's true, the Bengals you know, there's really like two or three bangles you can talk about. Yeah. That is true, Jim. And we're gonna talk in depth about the Bengals and more paisley underground, when we return unsound opinions from WBZ, Chicago, and PR Rex. Sound opinions is supported by goose island. The brewers of next coast. I three one two urban wheat ale and bourbon county stout pairing beer and music since nineteen eighty eight they believe it's always best to listen critically and enjoy responsibly. Goose island beer company, Chicago, Illinois. Let's be honest. 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Some of the most talented, musicians song, songwriters, and performers from that whole period. We're women and the Bengals were four very talented women who got together and wrote their own music, and release their own music and became an integral part of the scene killer, songwriters Susanna, Hoff's, the sisters, Vicki and Debbi Peterson. They were the core the ban. They really kind of been the consistent members through all the decades of. This group, the bass players have changed over the years, but also women also integral parts of the band were integrated into the songwriting into the harmonies. You know, people say, well, what's the difference between what the Bengals were doing and say, like the mamas and pop, which is a group. I've heard them compared to. And I you know. Property, but there's so much, there's so much here that, that, that's different about it. First of all, the songwriting in the band was top notch early on those harmony vocals, yes, there is. There are some resemblance to some of those sixties harbor. Yes. Harmonies. It's, it's a superficial comparison. But but, but the four singers in this group, and they were four singers in group at all times, often changing lead vocalist, different tracks early on especially emphasizing the early days because the story of this band is not a pleasant one when it comes to the corporate thumb being put on top. On top of the band. But in those early days, there, were writing some terrific songs with those great harmony vocals. Give shutout Vicki Peterson as a guitar player. She was just a genius in those sinewy guitar, fills, and riffs was about your in and out in a in a few bars. But man, she said a lot in those few bars in every song. If parliament's debut EP soon after they rename them. So the, the Bengals they were originally known as the bangs it was released in nineteen eighty two and then reissued in nineteen Eighty-three by I r s records which back then was a pretty big deal REM original songwriting on that record. Introducing the group unfortunately that record was not available for a really long time. They put it out at floated out there, and you couldn't get it for decades, finally was reissued as part of this compilation in two thousand fourteen of the, the bangles slash the band's earliest music, which is wonderful to me, you to find the groups of this band, go. Daddy plans the music right there. It's such a tragedy, Greg. I mean, everybody, you know all my students today and younger people today, the kids today, you know, everything's instantly accessible on Spotify, but one of the tragedies of these paisley underground bands is, as antastic has all these records were, there was a fifteen twenty year stretch where you couldn't hear them, right? Unless you're going to pay fifty dollars at a snooty vintage vinyls your you. We're not gonna hear these records, including that appear including the rainy day, they'd sort of been usurped by their own history. They got signed to Columbia records, put out the all over the place record in nineteen Eighty-four, which is still a good record. Good record produced by one David Kahn, who went on to do many, many things to many different bands over. Of his production decisions. But this is a fairly good. Overview of what the band could do. There's eleven tracks on the record nine of them written by the band, which I think, is key when they brought together sort of British invasion meets west coast, folk rock sound with their original songwriting, and those harmony vocals, they were terrific. Terrific band is ironic. You were saying what great songwriters the Bengals are. It is ironic that people who know them aren't rock critic, Deeks like you, when me no walk like an adjunction, right. Which they didn't. Right. They cover it. Blood. But there's also the regionals cycling hero takes the fall and, and things like that. Dover beach. You know, tell me these are great songs on that, that first full length for Columbia, then the different light record. That's the one that everybody knows from nineteen eighty six three million selling record. Prince gave them manic Monday. Originally written that for Appalachia he gives it to the bangles. He had a thing for Suzanne off. She was in with that singer. Craig airing we all did. Yes. And yes, manic money manic money's a huge it, you mentioned walk like an addiction, that was originally, pencil in for Toni basil and ends up being recorded by the Bengals again, David Kanzi they name girls. What about this one? You know they just become widgets in the machine, but, but listen, I don't take our word for how influential and how great this movement was. When you say that prince writes a song for the Bengals he also signed the next ban. I'm going to talk about the three o'clock to his record label. And what was the name of prince's recording studio paisley park, paisley parking names, it pays Lee park, because he is a namrd of the paisley underground moment that is es at the height of his psychedelic around the world and a day moment post purple rain, you know, raspberry. Beret and all these songs. He's listening to what these younger kids are doing and completely different Jonah in Los Angeles, and loving it and trying to cosign it. So the three o'clock formed actually, in that southern California area in the suburbs. Michael Quercy is the leader of the band, and he's a really super sharp character. Very unanswered. You know of nineteen sixty six car to St. mod, you know, he's sort of a mod. And I think again, those first two records, all of these fans are at their best right out of the gate, the baroque hoedown EP, and then the sixteen Cambrian album. There's a childlike naievety that is not there with the other paisley underground bands. It's very much akin to what said Barrett was doing in the early days of the Pink Floyd where he's taking, you know, inspiration from wind in the willows, Mr. toad and renting a song about his cat Lucifer Sam. And so there's that kind of childlike wonderful naievety, which is part of the psychedelic moment. They signed IRAs arrive without travelling is still a pretty good record. By the time they get to paisley park, again as park is prince's label, and there's Warner Brothers distribution. And there's money involved. The pressure is on. And suddenly, they become sort of a cartoon of themselves. But there really wasn't like youthful enthusiasm to the three o'clock, maybe just because course you always looked like he was thirteen years. You know even today. I'm sure he's my age, but he still always looks like he's thirteen years old. And there's life to this scene, yet Jim, I think nostalgia, whatever you wanna call it. There's still some vitality. They're the dream syndicate have been reunited for a number of years and giving live performances some of which that I have seen straw, good. But it's interesting all four of these key bands that we just talked about have reunited, all with at least one original several original him. Yeah. And they've done other things. Interesting in between, you know, Susanna Hoff's has made a couple of records with Matthew sweet of power pop God, you know, they burst out of as, as Vicki Peterson has said it was like paisley high class of eighty three they burst out with these fantastic records each of which I will champion to this day, the first couple of albums by all of these bands, and the early peas, they get signed to the major label. They get thrown in the. Meat grinder and ruined to various degrees. And then they reemerge starting two thousand thirteen comeback together reconnect with that joy of making music now that there are no stakes that there are no major label now that there's no fortune to be made. If you play by the rules of the machine, they're just making music for the joy of making music, and they still love this psychedelic ideal. I think one of the most inspiring records, I've heard in recent years. Is this new three by four compilation? What's the idea the bangles the dream syndicate the rain parade and the three o'clock all come together to play each of those bands, one song by the other bands? All right. And what this does to me is underscore that this wasn't a fad wasn't about fashion. It wasn't the hot new thing. This paisley underground moment, it was about great songwriting because to here, for example, the rain parade play as real as real by the three o'clock. Real world by the Bank for when you smile by the dream syndicate, it highlights, not only what was great about those songs by their friends and fellow travelers it highlights what the rain parade's core sound was itself. You know. And I just I I love that it's like if you and me I've big fight, and we don't talk for twenty five more years, and then we get together and we fight again. Well, I mean because it's not just in the style. Joe, it's highlighting an aesthetic and the brilliance of these friends. Well, and it's funny you should say that, because the dream syndicate covering hero takes a fall by the band extensively written by Susanna hops about Steve Wynn, and what jerky was back in those days, and Steve Wynn is now seeing that song back to her. Wasn't said. The fast you won't feel sad at. Going back and listening to all that early stuff for the segment. Jim it revived my feelings about John RA as being well beyond its time. It wasn't just a period piece. You know, some of the later records, are hard to listen to, because they were so over produced, but that early stuff by all of these vans really holds up. You know, Greg, when we do these John Reid, I sections, we always liked to talk about how the influence is still present in music today, and I see the paisley underground a lot of people consider it a retro movement, linking back to the psychedelic moment of the sixties, but I think, in retrospect, it's a lot like screeching, weasel the Chicago pop punk band. The Ramones set the template screeching, weasel keeps alive and then green day and blink one eighty two and a million other bands. Do it again, a decade later. So you know you have the sixties innovators and then you have. The paisley underground revisiting that sound with a modern perspective at the same time, there's a scene, you love the Doney and sound. Yeah. Right. Right. The whole New Zealand thing was very influenced by paisley underground and vice versa. I think those chiming guitar sounds that the New Zealand bands like chills. For example. Space. The relations where were very much in that same mode. I think they were coming from the same place Jim. They there were certain aspects of sixties music that they felt were well worth preserving an amplifying. First of all, just the primacy of the Qatar in a rock band in the eighties, that was under siege in the mainstream, you know, all the size playing with the new toys and the new technology. Nothing wrong with that, but guitars, sor- sort of become passe in the mainstream, and I think these fans are basically saying, hey, wait a minute. There's still something really cool about these instruments. There is more to be said. And I think the other key Jim for me in what unites the New Zealand to the paisley underground scene. And what makes it so influential today was a renewed emphasis on songwriting I you know, let's take the best of the sixties, which is a guitars at the center of the rock band, but be the craftsmanship the melodies behind the behind the songwriting. Yeah. And I think that their loved the paisley bands of love for those sixty sounds obviously, there are other groups at the same time. Sides, New Zealand the teardrop explodes Julian cope is very much in line. So is echo and the bunny meant. In Seattle, you have green pajamas people. Forget about them, the grunge moment prince we've talked about loving that sound after the moment ends. They are a number of splinter bands. Viva saturn. The continental drifters Mazzy star with members of the paisley underground, but then a new generation begins to crop up in the alternative moment. Mercury rev. Wrandell and, you know, you know, John Redan section of the shoe gaze movement in England in the alternative era bands, like my bloody Valentine and slow. Dive. There's no shoe gazer band, I've ever interviewed the didn't mention the paisley underground as pointing back to those sixty sounds. So really any band in the psychedelic pop mode. You know, you hear it in power pop. You hear it in the shoe gaze movement. You know, everybody loved those bands, you know, everybody being relative to people who, like trippiness in there that wraps up, our discussion on the paisley underground. And now we want to hear from you. What's your favorite band or song from that era of music? Where do you hear the lasting influence? Call. Leave a message on her hotline at eight eight five nine eighteen hundred. You can also find us on Facebook and Twitter. Coming up, we take a look leader of the pack and its impact on music. We also review the new record by the colorful, Puncak taco cat. That's coming up on sound opinions from WBZ Chicago NPR. Let's be honest. There's too much news to catch up on, especially after a long day at work, but WBZ Chicago has your back our new daily newsletter. The rundown will keep you informed with the five biggest local, national and international stories delivered right to your inbox. Subscribe for free by texting rundown two three zero six four four. Yes, we've seen. Welcome back to sound opinions. I'm Greg Kat here with Jim dear goddess and this year marks the fifty fifth anniversary of the song leader of the pack by the Shangri LA is for one week in nineteen sixty four the Shangri LA sat atop the billboard hot one hundred in front of legendary groups like the Supremes. The Rolling Stones the kinks the beach boys. And while it stayed on the hot one hundred for only twelve weeks. The tracks impact has extended far beyond nineteen sixty four absolutely. Greg written by Jeff Barry, Ellie, Greenwich, and shadow mourn, who produced the song of the pack is pretty much the perfect blend of teen angst and pop exuberance. It also plays with the Shangrila signature melodramatic lyrics. You know, and the tough attitudes that endeared them to music fans and influenced a lot of artists who followed. I mean Blondie the New York dolls Amy wine house, even the Jesus and Mary chain author. Ada wollen writes about all of this, in her new book called golden hits of the. Shangri LA's, our producer, Alex clayborn recently spoke with her. They started the conversation by defining who the Shangri laws were, and how they stood out from their girl group. Contemporaries seven Sanger laws actually consisted of two sets of sisters. So it was Mary and Betty Weiss and Mary, who most people remember it's the lead singer, and then two twins margin Marian gander and they actually came from queens, and they were just kind of a neighborhood group, and they were actually founded before they hooked up with producer, which is kind of rare for most for groups at the time they started singing on the street corner singing in their neighborhood. Even before they started singing, what we would typically now, think of as girl group music, what I love about the Shankar laws, and I think what you do really well in the book, you sort of crystallize all the articles that were written about them all the music criticism and all the books about the girl group era and basically, they were sort of outsiders, because they were very working class. They. Kind of rough around the edges, and they are speaking at the beginning of the record in their queens accents, they didn't hide them back, that they were from queens, and they were proud to be from queens really going the issue. Fishy. Is let's Betty is that Jimmy's Vigna wearing. She must be great riding. To school today? I think that one of the things that resonated so deeply with punk bands is that they were kind of I don't know there are a little off. They were they could sing, but they weren't really these kind of virtuosic singers that we think of as being real studios singers. And I think that's what people really liked that. You had more personality in there. You got the feeling that these girls even if they had written the songs they were really embodying these tough personas, and that wasn't just an app. Really, I think the legacy of, of the pack is, it's one of the foremost songs about teenage tragedy, and I was wondering at the time. How did people connect with it? I mean it was very successful for them. Obviously. Absolutely. I mean, I think that this was so important for grow strong in setting the tone of bad, boy, archetype, and the idea that the bad boy, you know, this is already a construct, and film, you had James Dean Marlon Brando. But to have actually from the perspective of the girls, interacting with this and kind of flirting with rebellion and I think, especially for the chamber laws, you really got the feeling that this could be a part of their lives. This wasn't just someone wrote a song for them to sing cash in on this rebellion kind of leather jacket thing. This was really, you can imagine them hanging out with this type of people and it really sounded like it was embodying. What? It feels like to be a girl and the early to mid sixties exploring with doing your own thing. Rebelling against your parents all of that. The things sometimes people get hung up on sort of the melodramatic nature of the song because it's very tragic, you know, this young girl is dating this guy. And then he eventually gets in this horrible, motorcycle accident. And there's a whole arc going on. Sodas small ball is beginning to show as he away on rainy. I begged him go sled. I'll never know. Sometimes, I think people write that off as sort of young girl teenage drama. But like you mentioned there was a real air of authenticity with the song, and thinking gave him a little bit more as opposed to maybe some of the other girl groups. Absolutely. And I think that, as I say, in the book, one of the things that's so interesting about the Shangri live is that they were not interested in this typical nuclear family. They were not interested in today. I'm going to meet the boy that I'm gonna marry. They were living these lives that if it could be brilliant for a moment. That was good enough. And I think that that's something where that totally would be embodied in punk because they really were interested and living fast. And if that meant dying young, that was part of the appeal, and I think that, that is something that is so interesting because you really don't see that in other female fronted music of the air. Out so helpless. Ruby throughout their remaining lives, the for members, they sort of lived out some of the Destiny's in their songs, and can you talk a little bit about both the legal trouble. The group had over the years member changes and also some of the members have since passed. Yes. So it is very interesting to think about that. So many of their songs were about dying young. Neither of the cans are twins are living, you know they locked one of them very early. I believe nineteen seventy think it was Marianne gander who died and I think the only person who went on to make music, Mary lice, and she came out with an album in two thousand seven and it is interesting because like many groups they did not own the rights to their name. So in the eighties another group was performing under their name. And that was something they really had no legal recourse against. And I think that is something that is so common when you look into girl groups often these producers own names, and they could do whatever they wanted with it. The song leader of the pack was covered by a myriad of artists, and twisted sister, put out a cover of the. That midler did her take on the song and huge fans like the New York dolls Aerosmith doing some covers of their songs, and also Jesus, and Mary chain. When you think about it, what contemporary artists who comes to mind that you think sort of a descendant of the Shangri LA's that's a really good question. This is something that has come up, and I'm, I'm so hesitant of making the connection between like, oh, girl music, like all young, women make the same kind of music. But I do think that I actually saw a lot of influence in kind of the resurgence of Raj like surf rock about five years ago, and I notice a lot of female singers, which is something that had been I felt really lacking. You know someone like best coast doing these songs that are kind of jangling in particular way, where I was like, oh, this is exactly that kind of play on rock and roll, and top and thinking about how can you have something be catchy in fun? But also eat, you know. Kind of driving in the way that rock and roll is. Ultimately, it's friends telling stories to each other. And I think that's rare of why leader of the pack and much of the Shangri LA's music connected with people. And I think continues to connect with them Bouli and, and I think it's so interesting that it would so underproduced certain sense that you still got the feeling that like, oh, this is a melodrama teenagers stuff on one hand. They are written off as knowledge Matic, and that's a shame. But on the other hand, they also really played with that in a way that I think people are only just really beginning to understand. I think that the fact that they did have this kind of flamboyant persona is really part of the appeal and it's part of what groups like the near out loved. You could dress up and you could act out this tragedy. But at the same time, even though it was a melodrama or play it really it's still hits you still tugs at the heart strings. We'll thank you so much ADA four. Chatting with me on sound opinion. Thanks for coming on. Thanks so much out that was our producer, Alex clayborn, who should have been a member of the Shangri, LA's, speaking. With writer eight a woolen about the band's leader of the pack. Get. That is a little bit of the song whole Graham. The opening track on the fourth recording by the Seattle pop punk band taco cat. This mess is a place Greg. I don't know about you, but I, I became aware of taco cat. When a listener cold in the hotline after our twenty sixteen best of show saying, hey, you forgot about taco cat. And I immediately regretted it because I fell in love with that recording. This is a band that formed around two thousand ten put out their first record three women and guy from the Seattle area devoted to that pop punk sound some darkness in the lyrics in terms of looking at the political situation. But also a lot of just pop culture silliness. I loved the song that they wrote in Majd. Tonya harding. Now, you know they've recorded several times for a subsidiary of sub pop. They are now signed to the legendary Seattle label itself. Sub pop, I think they're poised to reach. The biggest audience of their career this fourth time out with this mess is a place. Let's play a song. We'll come back and give our reviews. This is rose colored sky by taco cat. You know which is a challenge, Rome. Same forward and backwards gotta love that on sound opinions. That is rose colored sky from the new taco cat record. This mess is a place. Jim. This is the fourth record for this band. They've been around for a decade and, you know, they're smart songwriters. They're smart pop songwriters with this punky veneer, I would almost call them bubblegum punk short melodies way up front. But kind of a bite to the tars and drums that I thought brought a real punch to their previous two records loss. Time in two thousand sixteen and especially envy 'em in two thousand fourteen I'd have to say, that's my favorite. There was sort of a garage vibe about those records. One thing I've noticed about this mess is a place is much of those elements are still in place. But the sun is a lot cleaner this time the vocals are further upfront. The backing harmonies are emphasized as well, a little more muted on the tars and drums than in the past. I kind of miss that feistiness of those previous two records on this one but otherwise really smart lyrics I mean deceptively. So you think you're getting sort of a light, poppy record. And there's sort of a jaded nece about this and in some ways, the Jaden is almost a commentary on people who have become so jaded that they don't care anymore. How come out to be so jaded? They talk about in the very first song. And then they, then they asked is numb even feeling right? So they're kind of talking. But I think it's almost like a, you know, they're generation has sort of grown up and what kind of a world have we grown up into? Are we just giving up now because we feel like everything is going to go into into the crapper, and nobody cares anymore. And why should we? And I think they're sort of mocking that attitude in a very tongue in cheek way, which is very much in keeping with the tone of those previous record. There's a sense of humor. That's very dark lurking underneath those lyrics. So, you know nine ninety percent of this record. I still love some of what taco cats doing. I do have to say that I feel it's a little bit to clean, and pristine, I would rank the previous records, the head of it men. You were saying the same thing about Liz. Oh not long ago. I like a little bit more, you know, less producer more of the personality of these artists, which, I think are, are larger than life. They should be brought out in front. They're working with the same producer. They've always worked with I think what they were really focusing on here were the backing. Harmonies and as such, you know, I think there were few records, I can think of lake calamities that wonderful French garage ban. I've talked about on the show that I love and the go Go's, I'm you know, even the Bengals to some extent, or the Shangri laws, then Alex, just talked about, I can't get enough of those wonderful to three part harmonies, and I just think this is a brilliant album, every time you think they're just talking about the life of a slacker. Going next. And having a Margarita the size of your head they turn it around, and they, they bring in feminist issues, and, you know, this sense of numbness, we all have been twenty nineteen after, you know, one piece of bad news after another. You know, if it's not the death of democracy. It's the world melting down with global warming. It can it can make you exhausted. And they sing in in crystal ball. What a time to barely be alive. You know, hate men that's the line of the year as far as I'm concerned the livered with those harmonies and hooks. I love the taco. So taco cat fourth. I love it. 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Let It Roll: Ed Ward's History of Rock & Roll - The Beatles Invade And The Rolling Stones Follow

Rock N Roll Archaeology

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Let It Roll: Ed Ward's History of Rock & Roll - The Beatles Invade And The Rolling Stones Follow

"Welcome to let it. Roll the PODCAST. About how why popular music happens hosted by Wilcox podcast on twitter at let it roll. Cast the check out our website at let it roll. Podcast DOT COM. Let it roll is a Pantheon. Podcast and you can listen to all the other. Great Pantheon podcasts at. Www DOT pantheon podcasts dot com today Edward Returns to begin a series of discussions on the second volume of his history of rock and roll. This episode focuses on the British invasion and rise of motown in nineteen sixty. Four and America's Folk Rock and soul music responses in nineteen sixty five pop in those ear buds and enjoy. Let it roll. I'm your host Nate Wilcox and once again the Prodigal Son has returned Ed Ward the original Co host and the show is back with the history of rock and roll volume two nineteen sixty four to nineteen seventy three purposes although the titles nineteen seventy seven and welcome back. Thank you very much. It's good to be here good and so do you want explain the nineteen seventy seven thing up front or dive right in I. This will be corrected in two years when they do the paperback I couldn't convince the editor to change. That title really do this. Goes to essentially the last waltz which I believe is nine hundred. Seventy four The end of the band but earlier in the book I have talked about the Elvis. Nineteen sixty eight comeback special. His just Christmas TV show which was an unprecedented thing in popular music. Never before undefeated star come roaring back and become hugely popular once again and I ended that chapter by saying who would have guessed working how young and vital he loved. They will be dead before ten years he was up. I realize writing on you know you drop that there. You've got to pick it up so I wrote a chapter about Elvis's death in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven as an addendum and I marked as such. But the editor didn't seem to understand. There was a whole lot more between where the main narrative left off. And there's one little ending. It's nice to put it there because it is the end of Elvis. The end of an era and very definitely seals often a little rock and roll history. But unfortunately I haven't yet been slammed by the type of critic likes to do that sort of thing but Yeah what's the big deal? But I wanted to give you a chance to clarify that and I think the band actually the last concert. The last Waltz concert was November. Nineteen seventy six so he can make a case that it goes up to seventy seven and and you know one of the things to do when I read. This is as wait for you to miss something and Every time I think I've got yet. There's a paragraph mentioning Queen or You know I thought I had John on upbringing up land of the rising Sun House of the rising some of the animals in this first chapter. We're going to discuss today. And it's there. I found it so you know you're a slippery one ED. You're a slippery one. So let's start with the purpose of the book. An introduction said at the purpose of the book is to show how movements arise how they interact with their intended audiences and how they die. What does that mean? Well it means that rock and roll having become the The pretty much default way of expressing popular music it then tribalize. You know there were there. Were people will begin with there. Were Beatles people stone people and none of those people but now as it goes into the sixties and seventies there are Jonah's within Roger all that they're here it's our Come out of scenes you know there. There's this New York scene. There's a there. Well that's getting a Henry said the Austin scene and there was a California seeing definitely And there was a scene up enough in the Pacific northwest and these all had their distinctive modes of clothing speaking words and In some of them there were also would beyond music. There were painters and writers and artists of various sorts. That We're all working alongside of the musicians. They might meet when the musicians played. Were in a club that the musicians were favored in. But it was a much larger thing. And just you know a bunch of guys with cars and the open you start the title of Chapter Your Sons and daughters are beyond your command of a Bob Dylan quote from his time the The Times. They are changing in which you discussed the chapter. Why did you pick that quote for this chapter? Probably just been to see Bill Courage in performing bills has a remarkable words that song it is said that shows that it's completely contemporary but the The another reason is the song is taking notice something pretty much after it's happened Teenagers are now their own society. Even if they're living their parents still they are moving away from being obedient will kids This was heightened by rock and roll. The there were kids who listen to admittedly were older than they are making music. That said you know the old rules don't apply and now they're about to start hearing music made by people increasingly close to their own age starting with the Beatles you you start chapter with the date. December twenty six nineteen sixty three. What happened on that day the date of the DJ place? I WanNa hold your hand was in the. Wc Am okay. That was interesting. There was a disc jockey in Washington. Dc who had a friend who was a flight attendant British Overseas Airways Corporation Est. Those days and she came into. Washington with a copy of the Beatles. Single I WANNA hold your head and gave it to this guy said you know you might want to play on your on your radio show and he did and it basically ignited Beatle Mania the folks capitol records who had been not real crazy. `Bout putting out a record by four guitar wielding guys from Women Pool but maybe this will work and of course fans meant what was that explosion was on and and the because capital turned down the single the previous singles to American small labels swan had gotten the rights to she loves you and had not been able to to make it hit and vj had put out Please please me and then passed on. She loves you. And so as soon as as the hits. Vj capital goes to the record presses. You mentioned that. Rca They actually had to borrow as pressing plants to print up enough copies. I want to hold your hand at print up a million copies of the thing and two hundred those were far out to RCA but VJ swan immediately get back in the act and release their Beatles licensed tracks and it's a flying so yeah All of a sudden you're more records than you could keep track of. There's also a label. Called Tali had a Beatles reggae river stock my head what it was but I guess it'd be love me do. Vj had to Musso fancy misspelled the word Word Beatles on the first pressings of their their bills record and also it played a heavy part in putting them out of business. Veteran lose and the soul label So so many records that they went out of business which is seems to be paradoxical until you understand the way credit works for individuals. Yeah they get an Hawk for all the records that they print Can't collect from distributors time to pay their bills and if they don't have another Beatles album coming the distributors don't feel any inclination to pay so it's A. It's a story. We discuss the first part of rock history. Something that's GonNa continue to happen to smaller labels Throughout the rest of the twentieth century but the Beatles just explode and I think that your point about this depth of catalog suddenly becoming available was a big factor. And just how big they got because it wasn't a matter of. Here's one enormous hit single with no catalogue behind it suddenly. There's an enormous hit single and there's another enormous hit single and a third one and there's a whole album of beal stuff and if you will the diggers to albums of beadle stuff and so kids kids were just flooded with Beatles product and it was all gray and they were all buying There there was a record store reported to billboard about how little kids would come into the store ads for Beatles record and not even look at anything else payments meals record and leave. That was all they were interested in but it did have some spillover effects. And you know that same Ed Sullivan. The day debuted on time for me to play our first song. Which is the very first Beatles. Song played on American national television. This is the Beatles doing all my loving on the Ed Sullivan. Show nineteen sixty four office. You were live. And that was the Beatles. Paul McCartney's all my wellbeing on the Ed Sullivan show on February. I think one thing that's important to stress for audiences in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty one of those drops the this TV show was enormous on a level. We cannot comprehend today. Something like seventy million. Plus People Watch this. Can you describe the impact of had three broadcast channels Ed Sullivan Sunday night? The highest rated show on TV even without the Beatles. You add the Beatles in this wave of hype I mean. What was that like? Was that just dominating conversation everywhere across the country all at once the next day. Well certain demographic is certainly not among adults obviously not to be taken seriously but it was still a big enough phenomenon. That adults had to discuss it at the beatle wigs and virtually every corny TV sitcom in nineteen sixty four. Some kind of Beatles parody. Yeah you know everybody was aware of it. It was just that the kids were the ones who loved it. Everybody was aware of how many people were in favor of it. Maybe his way to put it and there is also the fact that the The entire northeast of the country was snowed in at the point. Where the the Ed Sullivan Show? And nobody was going out so. Og stay on what we do. Watch it so of course so they did and and right there on that same. Episode is the Dave Clark Five Tottenham banned from North London that immediately the term as dogma takes a little while for the British nation to targeting getting thrown out there but immediately the record not every company can get a piece of the Beatles even though several have but epochs Scott the Dave Clark five out somebody else signs Gerry and the pacemakers. The mercy beat explosion comes to America pretty quickly on the heels of the Beatles and flopped for the most part because not all of the town in Liverpool was all that good and you know I mean who was in to the undertaker's these days that went up. It's not worth the trouble there. I mean I've made been Jackie Lomax hs band and he may have been a good friend of them George Harrison's but just because they were from Liverpool what really should have happened should have been the American. Anr People should have looked more closely at England because there were you know there are things going on. In Liverpool's arch rival Manchester and up the coast. Bit In them I forgot where the Castle Castle on Time Yeah Index. There were all kinds of bands all over the place most of whom formed when they saw the Beatles when the bills were during their fairly intense touring the British isles It was just. It was an inspiration and some of those people did have town eventually got to find out and even the lesser talented ones. I mean the Dave Clark Five D- incredibly well and the states and manage to keep the mercy beat alive long after the Beatles had dropped it because probably Clark can play any other rhythms. But you talk about George. Harrison's famous quote you know what do they? They've got everything here when he came to the states. What are they need us for? And and what the state was the folk scene? Give us a little date on on. What the scene was doing in early sixty four it was trained to establish itself and part of what people were The record industry was after was not solo performers. But what I call hootenanny ban you know where sort of expanded versions of the case in trio several singers and a lot of guitars and Banjos and and upright bass and eventually acoustic bands noblet thousands and so forth and even some of the band leaders who had big dance played. Society events had had hootenanny bands. That's where David Crosby Cape from. He was playing in believe less browns. Or somebody had had been as the Les Brown Orchestra. Yeah and You know which they might be hauled. These kids around as a in between sets entertainment. Well the band's going to take a break now but we like to present some talented youngsters Yada Yada and was David. Yes kinda similar to the way Lonnie. Donnegan skill band emerged out of the Trad Jazz. The bigger Trad jazz bands in England seven years earlier. And but you also had these really popular Joan Baez Kingston trio that we're moving enormous amounts of LP's very young. They're the ones to look at. Because they remanded by Grossman who was a guy who used to own a folk club in Chicago but decided to go full fledge into management and started signing up. People he got Peter Paul and Mary and through them he that Bob Dole on and he used Pierre. Paul and Mary to promote Bob Dylan. Because they're the ones who covered dot dylan songs and brought him to the pop charts. I but Dylan. Dylan's have is sort of underground breakthrough at the free will and Bob Dylan the second album and we talked about that nineteen sixty three episodes but now he comes out with the. Times they are a changing and it's a very different thing. It's much more political. It participates in the march on Washington and Ecorse a pretty heavy reputation as a voice of his generation label. He would try to get away from me. He doesn't try to get away. If you've been seeing recently the Mc goes and now. Listen Ellen man you've been you've been waiting to see the great songwriter and devotion generation should every night. I tried to get away. Yeah maybe when the Nobel Prize tensions mind on that but another songwriter? That was that was that happened. Yeah he's then but another songwriter. Who is making political statements although more guardedly and having more success on the pop charts at this point is Chicago's Curtis Mayfield and his band. The Impressions Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. The rights movement and Curtis came out of the Church and there was a branch of the Black Church that was progressive Largely senator apparently in Chicago because it's also were pops staples was doing his thing and pops staples kept it in church but Curtis had already gone pop and he was. He was really big on making political statements. That gentle political say you know he? He was not writing songs called. Kill Whitey or anything or integration. Now he he was he was saying. Be Proud of yourself. Keep pushing keep moving. This is all GonNa turn out okay and let's see a little bit. Go ahead Fisher Point Noel. Here pushing he couched in the language of the church. Sometimes he just flat out like Bob Dylan wrote a protest song. You you you hear. People get ready is definitely in the language of the church. You know trainees talking about is it about salvation. Or is it more salvation on earthly level Meaning justice to black people. That's that's one of the great things Kurds Mayfield was able to do much here. Are The impressions? Keep pushing got to keep to stop. Oh stream that was curtis Makefield in the impressions with keep on pushing another soul singer who started to dabble. It's political statements. Right at the end of his life was Sam Cooke which again the Church in Chicago and his song a change is GonNa come was beside of his last hit single shake which was a cutting edge dance tune and we talk about Sam a lot in the nineteen sixty three episode. But I think it's definitely worth mentioning again in nineteen sixty four because he was absolutely at the top of the Music Business World. He got control of publishing the at his own record company. He was still have hits and he was talking. The shake. Change IS GONNA come. Single is just absolutely a signpost for the sixties are GonNa go listen to slide comes first production on Bobby Freeman's due to swim and incorporates the absolute cutting edge of RB DANCE Into the shake. And then he's listening to Bob Dylan and produces a change is gonna come so we don't get it a hypothetical histories here. But definitely of salmon lived. He would have continued making a huge impact but he didn't he go ahead. You Youtube well. I was going to say you know in the vacuum left by Sam Cook Stats Berry Gordy. Town does more than step into the breach. I mean they blow wide open and in the summer of sixty four the supremes start an unprecedented Ryan of number one hit singles but very stayed far far away from politics he felt that alienate the large white audio CD tracks it and done that on purpose. Yes and that was probably a decision And plenty of other. People stepped into the breach there but the rest of our be does his best to keep up with motown. Atlantic as it's kind of the last gasp of the Brill building entertain Pan Alley where Atlantic has hits with drifters under the boardwalk. Solomon Burke has hits but how did that artery of songwriters the Gerry? Goffin's Carole King's deal with the British invasion not will Goffin and King were writing songs for the animals and for polymer in. The raiders were in American British flavored from the Pacific northwest and and also the birds. Strangely Enough Clinton. A lot of those people. Couldn't they couldn't hear you know dillon? Wasn't boy girl. subjects The the level of abstraction his lyrics was something that was horrible. There they couldn't they couldn't stand listening to it and so A lot of those people. They didn't make the transition. Some of them did King Carol King obviously went onto a career as a solo artist and in in another songwriting factor on the west coast. Randy Newman was writing stuff. Not FOR THE ANIMALS FOR OUR PRICE. When he left the animals I will buy out price. The price has a bunch of Reggie Numazawa Nobody has heard there on his house and burn the producer and writer of twist and shout. He actually went to England and discovered Van Morrison and produced his first few hit. It's them was doing very well in Britain and they were doing okay in the United States but Birds Genius was in discovering that the rest of them were just. You know dumb then. There is another guy standing in front will guy played saxophone and he was. He was what was worth looking at and develop show he runs. The United States did so and record him in England to with Jimmy page Making a big mark on those early them records as well and becoming a protege of burns and the Beatles have a second act immediately in the summer when they're movie a hard day's night comes out and you explain a little bit about. What's that movie added to the Beatles Fan Experience? Well who's a chance to see your favorite beetle well up to gigantic size on on the screen in the movie theater and it was your chance to experience the Beatles with perfectly mixed sound and see them playing and it also gave you the opportunity to be in the middle of the screaming crowds that followed the Beatles everywhere so the film would have US believe I. They were probably a little better protected. Not HAVING TO RUN DOWN Train station platforms pursued by screaming girls. But you know it was. It was a way. Say you're right. You made the right decision. Here are the Beatles. Here's as much as the bills cram into an hour and a half and maybe go ahead to see that movie over and over that it was like playing a record you know. Audiences just logged and captured a real sense of sort of high water modernism and and the black and white footage. It's it's it's in creative. Richard less direction is innovative. And it's sort of the high watermark of the early sixties idea of hip. Even the Beatles themselves would morph into more of a hippie sort of hip within just eighteen months for making a hard day's night. There's a moment that's crystallizing hard day's night that's very much. The state of the art of nineteen sixty four and people like Roger Miller on the country pop side. We're having hits like King of the road and the smothers brothers sorted meat to me. Epitomize that even though they continued to be popular in the late sixties. But that sort of short haired Bob Newhart Smart Ass Kinda Guy. Who's his look at world in a waking way would not really challenging the sort of rat. Pack older generation dominant to that point and and Roger. Miller is really fascinating. Because he's this classic Nashville Singer. Songwriter whose retrospectively King of the road. Just totally overwhelmed the rest of his work. But if you start chronologically listen to Roger Millar. He's got a ton of really fun. Songs Dang me and and Chug log and and and all these other things and over. Yeah and there's something about Roger Millar that peaks at this period and he never quite captures up for him again. And letting it's this it's a it's a fulcrum. Nineteen sixty four the end of the air and and the beginning to other. That's very unique in the Beatles accomplishment that they're able to personify what was cool in nineteen sixty four and yet be being a position to keep evolving. It's the sixties changes in the sixties accelerate and another go ahead with their youth. And the fact that you know creativity once you once you hook into a way of doing it doing something Expressive can if. It's like a plan if you can use water and feed it it'll it'll get bigger and another document a nineteen sixty four that that sort of captures this high point of rock and roll. Because you know this is kind of last year when artists like Chuck Berry Hits when Jerry Lewis is still able to tour England and draws very similar crowd to the Beatles and the Stones Little Richard and Everley brothers touring England around this time as well and the some enterprising on the west coast together. Something called the. Tammy show and managed to book this incredible lineup of bands. You've got the beach boys. You got several motown acts you got Gerry and the pacemakers. You've got the rolling stones and you've got James Brown and it all fits together beautifully. What was going on in nineteen sixty four? That allowed such diversity not just diversity between American bands of British fans but African American groups fitting in seamlessly in pop explosion. One so a bunch of things about the damn show for one thing you can't really see them Unless you're looking for them but the band plays on. That film was amazing. It had on Russell had Glen Campbell. Had A whole bunch of famous names. Who became famous later. You as the wrecking crew and other such back in groups and But the thing is that see. Nobody knew what kids were interested in. You know because they weren't kids say their kid was far behind them and utterly unlike what was going on right now that they just figured well you know stuff that's on the charts. Look on the charts and here. We gave the Beatles stones or maybe we hang sons whose Guy James Brown And you know you they go for one act get turned down at the age of about this this one and so it wasn't it wasn't done via in quote unquote scientific research that you employed for radio playlists since it was just put together for the kids were. They were whatever they like. And the rolling stones who hadn't broken in America yet. They were big in England. By this point they'd come up in the wake of the Beatles and sixty three as sort of London's answer plan hard rhythm and Blues a Electric Blues based style of Rhythm Blues that was different than the sort of Ray Charles derived rhythm and blues. That was big and mercy but they hadn't broken in in the states but Andrew Golden. Their manager was really making a point to work the states and they toured in summer sixty four when really people. America didn't want to hear about the stone. Chance Santa Barbara New York already for him but they were also planning to fifty people in Omaha Planet County Fair and San Antonio and then they had to go on after aims Brown and and James had no mercy on them and pulled out all the stops but he also appreciated them and gave them free tickets to his next appearance at the Apollo Theater in Harlem and it was probably pretty hard for him to resist them. Given that Mick Jagger was was an Toni Basil the choreographer and later Popstar was standing there. you know desperately trying to learn every single dance move. James was going up and let's cue up and hear the stones doing chuck berries around and around live on. Tammy that amount beat and that was the rolling stones covering their master Chuck Berry's around and around and that's a performance that despite you know kind of getting blown off stage and Andrew Oldham and his been more about how he feigned an equipment breakdown so they would have an extra long break. After James Brown for the stones went on but people like Patti Smith talk in their memoirs. About what an impact? The sons performance there. And you know it's very anarchy Keith. Richards turns his back on the audience at the beginning of the show Brian. Jones's leaping around and there's this new stronger energy coming out of the second way I mean it's just one year but we're already having a second wave of British invasion bands. And you've got the kinks who are already adapt reacting to. Louie Louie by the kingsman which is this explosion of garage rock that came out of the Northwest Pacific northwest of the US in late sixty three and continues to be a big hit and sixty four and the kinks assimilate that into you really got me but some happens that keeps the kinks from from capitalize on their success in the states. Well part of it was that they Well OLIVER'S FANS had trouble getting visas and getting clearance. Insure the musicians union. And but the Kingston particular Were as you say an Arctic. They they were just crazy you know and the two Davies brothers didn't really like each other so they were They were constantly fighting on stage. Dave eventually got denied live performances in the United States. Because there were so many points about them so they continue to make really great records as they came hard be. That's another thing there. The first case album is a bunch of covers are similar to stones. But not as well done and there were so many. Rv Vans at that point. The stones came out of an intermission band for another band but it got to wear the The fans came to see them came to the Internet mission band and walked out on the headliners. And so that's that's the point when being real answer or something going on with zones. Yeah the are sort of analysis to the folk movement in the states and they came out of this Trad jazz adjacent seen or a subset of the Trad jazz scene that was into authentic blues. And they're into our Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated was one of the groups that you're mentioning that they quickly blew past but by light sixty four there haven't hit in the states and like you mentioned in the book time is on my side is one of their first that kind of steps on a single by Thomas earn didn't her career was so sad she. She kept getting brilliant songs and then either they weren't there they were too weird for RV radio or in the case of one where she really had it just times on my side Along comes juggernaut from England in squashes of Platt and I did the similar thing to the woman. Brothers in the Valentino's with their song. It's Oliver now Sam Cook. It actually encouraged the womack said take the pill since they wrote the song. Or at least Bobby Womack had and take the royalty checks and shut up but didn't have that luxury and the new management. Yeah and the another band that comes out of this second wave is the animals have a huge hit with house of the rising sun. Which for as much as Eric Burden denied it. He always claimed that he got it from the same folks. Sources that Bob Dylan had is pretty clearly obvious that the animals got that song. Bob Dylan's first album right and Alan price keyboard player and done palled around during the course of filming Don't look back to the movie. Did on his His European tour There's there's an outtake from dull back is just amazing to see where price and Dylan go. Shopping for clothing in a in a menswear store or clothing wasn't menswear in the middle of they're looking at the goods. This woman and her daughter come in to buy something and mom is just paralyzed by the sight of these two. Weirdos picking up shirts trying them on and she tried to keep her daughter from seeing it but the kid is like oh that she's fascinated. It's a wonderful thing that we haven't gotten to see until the The full movie without takes came out on. Dvd It's a wonderful thing and so you know I think may been one of the reasons. Outcries left the animals was he saw a dylan was doing and he figured. Iggy do same thing himself from the piano bench eventually would try and also the big CECCHI got forgetting solar rangers credit on House Rising Sun a helped finance that the departure and the rest of the band to this day insists that that was a group arrangement and nobody will ever know. That wasn't actually there and before we get to the to the end of chapter and Dylan's switch to fall rock. I WANNA I WANNA hit a couple. More points as we mentioned the aging rockers briefly but one of them Roy orbison these monumental pop operas out of Nashville has another big hit this year With Pretty Woman that Szoboszlai. He wrote on the bus with the Beatles with Lennon McCartney watching and allowed to think of that Know The guy who's getting blown away by these young punk night after night but he's chosen at least for a moment that guy still has it and he also somebody who came up in the AK- stable of writers publishers their national so it was like a job you know what what song. Okay Him Hammy some music paper and pen pen. And you'll have a song here. Ebanks amount and the Beatles McCartney were very much in that same old themselves McCartney said that they used to Joe Chloride Swimming Pool. Or let's write some new cars. And and and until they hear Dylan which which happens on their first trips to the US. They're not concerned with lyrics at all but as soon as they get to the states and I think terrasson was hip to dylan a little bit before. They got to the states but as soon as they digest the three. Well Bob Dylan movie things percolating just like as soon as Dylan. Here's the animals doing one of his songs and get in this massive pop hit and doing it in a four and a half minute single which is very long for that. Tummy most or two minutes. And so there's definitely just beginning to this. Cross Pollination Got Mick Jagger watching James Brown and you've got the Beatles. I don't think the fact that the Beatles covered multiple motown songs on their meet the Beatles album with the Beatles in Britain I think that can be underestimated for how much that helped the ascent of the supremes just a little while later. I mean when when the bills during press conference after press conference in mentioning smokey Robinson. Their favorite songwriter motown is their favorite records. That really gave wide Primed White America to hear what Berry Gordy and the supremes were put out. It was the sound of Young. America is always insist. Yeah and any breaks through those barriers and another guy. Who is you know a King of the scene before the Beatles come along and is watching this British Explosion? Closely Spector Factory. Actually flew on a plane with the Beatles before they came to on their trip to America. How did Phil Spector Adept and sixty four? Well he didn't really he was still wedded to the Ethelson had given him all his success and it was hard for him to break away. It was hard for him to envision a singer songwriter. It was hard for him to envision. A band was static. Same five guys showed up every time they had the call He was dependent on studio musicians dependent on songwriting factories It was it was something he really could not conceive of and eventually killed his career but for this last year he's still haven't hit with the righteous brothers and others. You know bigger bigger than ever. And he's got his finger on the pulse. I mean he's not only hanging with be loss. He's tight with the stones manager. Andrew Luck Alderman actually writes a song with the stones and is present when they do a buddy holly's not fade away. He and Gene Pitney. Supposedly saved the day by bringing some Cognac. And tell everybody it's it's Penny's birthday. Let's have a drink and that stops the fighting. Between Brian Jones and make Jagger long enough to record the song and but another producer who's been reasonably successful and does adapt is you. Ep mowed down in Texas to. What is you EP? Do and where does start? Douglas Quintet come from well Huey one a Beatles he didn't understand. He said he didn't understand what it was about the Beatles so he legendarily checked into a motel rented the rooms on either side of one he was in so they would disturb. Anybody intended portable photograph. A BUNCH OF BEAL. Dreyer's played them over and over and over again while he drank bottle of wine and his revelation was an. I don't understand this technically but it was. What he said was the beat was on the beach just like Cajun music and I think other go ahead. An accordion player occasion corden butter. And I take what is getting out was what the Beatles called the Pete. Best or the mercy be because P best. Their first drummer couldn't play anything except one two three four. So it's like what we would think of as a house or disco beat where it's the Ford of the floor with the bass drum going one. Two three four rather than the backbeat that was favored in early rock and roll and the Beatles moved away from it but several of their early hit singles. Please please me of I. WanNa hold your hand. She loves you. Have that one. Two three four thump thump. Thump and Dave Clarke made his entire career off that be and I think that's what he was honing in on although when you listen to. She's about a mover by the Sir Douglas Quintet They funk it up and it's and flip the beat and it sounds almost like a precursor to scar because Doug was. He was playing mostly. R&b Vans on the west side of San Antonio and the famous quotes from Huey which I guess we can use censuses and broadcast media Was the Doug Petrie mail to make a record. I WanNa make a record and you band you while you guys songs you know you gotta do something and bilaterally after this epiphany in the Motel Doug was in Houston pestering who yet again it. Okay yet you aband- growing some fucking Hare. Let's make a record that they did and it and it actually got booked on variety. Tv show attorney Lopez who was kind of a fall apart performer. Who had a big hit and sixty three and Trinity? Susta pretty quickly that these guys were from San Antonio and not England. Well he got out drenching way. Those guys talk there was nowhere else. They could be from and intriguing guys started for land but they had a good run. She's about a mover was ahead for a while Fill there are one of many bands. Phil Spector scouted album. Along with the loving spoonful modern folk quartet and other things as he tried to adapt to the Beatles thing and a Bob Dylan repeatedly called him his favorite band but pot bus sixty six and the wheels came off. But I WANNA get to one other Texan before we get to our last segment the show. And that's Bobby Fuller a kid from El Paso who's definitely an alkali buddy holly but also Phil Spector. And he's not quite on his breakthrough yet but he's bubbling under. He won he fuller. Four had a remarkable almost orchestral Approach to playing they They got the opportunity lot. I mean. Don't forget that when you grow up in Lubbock as as they did and go to El Paso. The nearest recording center was buddy. Holly's old one in Mexico in as producer. I'm blanking Eddie. But Yeah it could go. They get in the car drive to Norman Petty Studio and record and if not having him produce it produce themselves and save some money and just pay for the whole session which cheap because who went to close to record and they put out a number of Records on their own label. Then they moved that label to Los Angeles. They became the house band at the whisky. Gogo which you couldn't ask for a better situation and they the great hitch right up until something happened until Bobby Fuller westbound bruised and soaked in gasoline and supposedly with a significant amount of gasoline in his stomach and it was ruled a suicide but that's pretty brutal way to kill yourself. The Legend is he was messing with some La mafiosos wife that will probably never know another theory is brother. Put Out in his book. Which was involved The New York steam and the the Mafia and publishing rights. I'm sure was probably a money deal and so as we wrap this episode of end. The chapter with Dylan's response to all the rock and roll that he's been here catching attention and before we talk about that. I WANNA play an early Dylan beside. That was suppressed and this is. This is actually Dylan's I rock and roll record. It's called mixed up confusion and he Eh Eh to ads. And that was Bob. Dylan's mixed up confusion his first stab at rock and roll which was on the John Hammond and Columbia quickly suppressed. Well it wasn't his first stab losers I record stab. Yes originally brought enacting back in Minnesota and he was conversing with ago. Cab and yeah I I wonder I don't have a copy of that and should have looked at one four hours writing about it but I wonder whether the time Wilson was involved that as producer. 'cause Wilson was the was the Great Unknown Revolutionary Black Men for Waco and went to Boston and they got our guard jazz and then moved to New York producer at Columbia. And then after that ended he went to verve where he produced the velvet underground and and the mothers among others but He also produced Bob Dunne and he also pre was started folk rock by taking the album Simon and Garfunkel had just done and while Paul Simon was an England and unable to do anything about it over dubbing electric guitars and reissuing it as sounds of silence based on the hit the he made over overdubbed cars on Simon Garfield tracked track. Yeah Utah in culture. Changing move but Dylan beat to the punch with his. I pushed folk. Rock single subterranean homesick blues talking about the impact of that song for one day. I might I copy of that came from a college roommate who had just spent several months working in a radio station and glommed up as many singles as you find cover clippings from the British Press Dylan showed us the way and so their impact and he knew that rock and rows away to go. I remember going to the Center Center. The Great Shrine folk music in Greenwich Village. When I was a kid and then buying a copy of bringing it all back home which was done surfers all or half electric album and the girl who was behind that you know that rock and roll album Tan. I said his last one was to dry again in kids and my high school had a band records a hill. No Man. That's weird nearish man. Nobody's ever understand it. But I heard that I heard the electric bands of wasn't there listening to those songs and so side A young Jim mcguigan and the birds. But we'll talk about that on the next episode of light role as we continue our voyage through the history of rock and roll volume to the Beatles stones and the rise of Classic Rock Edward. It's a pleasure to have you to be back. Follow the litter podcast on at let it roll cast and check out our website at let it roll podcast dot com next week Ed Ward. We'll be back to talk about nineteen sixty six rock and roll second Miracle Year featuring electrified Bob Dylan the beach voice. Making pet sounds stacks hitting its stride James. Getting funky the Beatles dropping acid and the beginnings of the San Francisco scene. Let it roll is a Pantheon. Podcast and you can listen to all the other. Great Pantheon podcasts at. Www DOT PANTHEON PODCASTS DOT com The history of rock and roll volume two nineteen sixty four to nineteen seventy seven the Beatles stones and the rise of classic rock. His published by Flatiron books. Please support our show by ordering via the Amazon referral link on our website. Let it roll. Podcast DOT COM.

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Trainer Talk with Tony Stabile

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Trainer Talk with Tony Stabile

"Originating from jimmy johns of lexington studios this is trainer. Tom presented by facing tipton verse racing radio network radio work but it was oh the game su winslet donnay basaltic. We'll give trainer steve asmussen career win number six thousand. It was all another dugout. Nail spoiled traded away. Look six win. Canals rosie has gotta give trader greater gary contessa his two thousand career win on dialed in to them. It was animal cane guns. Graham skied hobby career victory number one thousand blonde now. Here's judy feld good evening. Everyone wherever you may be trainer. Talk is on the air. This show sponsored by phasing tipton is the show that trainers listen to and i'm delighted to spend the next next hour with you and our special guest tonight's trainer has had a long and storied career in thoroughbred racing. He's worn several hats along the way he's cultivated. Avait countless relationships with racing participants from hot walkers to hall of famers and his memory bank of racing stories and lor is endless. Certainly we for our listeners. He is most noted as being the sire of the beast of the belmont also known as the big a welcome to trainer talk tony steel. How's it going tony much to be glad you could make today <hes> you <hes> made the long drive from brooklyn up to saratoga actually from area. I live in eerie now. Oh you live in eerie now. Oh cool yeah right nina near the racetrack press kyle nouns beautiful because you you race there quite a bet you go back and forth between there and golden gate fields yes sir from eight october where it's chris kyle and from october to may were at golden gate so you you stay on the topeka surface. Yes also both organizations. I'm i'm i'm i'm very fortunate to have a good relationship with the people that press kyle and the shana crew in california. They make it that much easier for training training do his business yeah well. They they <hes> they certainly <hes> you know. Run tight ships both places so <hes> you're you're in good shape. Let let's start at the very beginning who exposed you to thoroughbred racing. I went to school with a trainer sunday. Mike said luck and mike invited me out to the barn. One morning and i quit school two weeks later that was it love at first sight campbell so oh you so anybody has any beefs seem like selective create a frankenstein. That's great <hes> so you started you started working at the barn and and <hes> little i worked for for what he said like mike swab. It was probably one of the ten best trainers i've ever seen in my life i mean the man was like he was. He was doctor. Dolittle slash horse whisperer never seen a man get along with courses in animals animals like woody was quiet man nice nice man nice family and a heck of a trainer then i i worked worked for toni basil amazon for a couple of years and <hes> rose to form in and now for a while and i worked for gentlemen from new england named bob mccarty who was very under the radar but he was a great train rolled all he claimed and bought well what would bow tendons and horses that were bleeders and there was no lasix allowed in those years. I learned a lot from my learned how to handle the bow tendon. I learned how to handle this and then my relationships with other trainers. I knew bobby frankel when he first started walking muscle buddy jacobson allen jerkins my best friend than a world many talks at learn more from alan just by watching them in the barn you know than most oh seat would learn in a lifetime and pancho martin and jose martin just the list goes on and on just great great trainers and i i was able to take a little piece from everybody yeah. That's that's kind of the way it works. When you have that background background of working for a lot of different trainers you you kind of figure out what works for them what you think will work for you in in cast aside the things that you disagree with with <hes> but some of those guys that you're talking about you can't disagree with them to exactly when it comes to remedies and paints forces you no <hes> you'll mix trainers trainers have their own formulas for paints and limits and stuff like that and i was able to to witness mike six seven guys mixing their pain so oh when i went out on my own i became like a mad scientist and through trial and error. I was blessed to be able to find the right combinations that work arken. Keep was the sound and stuff like that. You know it's not as easy as people think i mean when people watch the races <hes> especially if they're not racetrack irs nearly think he's just gonna wash you put a satellite jockey on them and see you later right. It's it's it's more complicated and and then the general public things i just wish more tracks would be into educating the defense <hes> i think the problem with the game is that whomever was in charge of advertising in the for the baby boomer's blue yeah because they didn't they didn't promote the babies see my parents my generation. I'll parents took us to the races right. That is the generation now how that you'll find mostly at the track you know for me. I was a horseman so i took my kids to the track so and that's how you wound ended up with that bargain-basement prize anthony's to be you know i mean not because my son i mean he two guys nuts. I mean he knows he just knows about about wash racing. He's got a memory like a <hes> evolved. It's incredible you know he knows about ailments too because he watched me. You know fight it out for all those years with jeep forces and driving affiliate block in atlantic city and mom this and the meadowlands <hes> you know he's uh pretty pretty good. Osman knows what he's doing around on lawsuit yeah. He knows he's not only knows about the game itself and can handicap. He knows about washes to your because he talks a lot of time served on the show about going to those race tracks with you and and and <hes> problem this source that horse and <hes> you know like like you said it's not an easy racket. People think it's all <hes> you know going out in the morning. Drink drinking coffee with your fellow trainers and then you know going out and collecting money in the afternoon. It's not like that at all. I mean it's it's a hard life years impress kyle and then golden gate twenty horses. I carry twenty losses now. Twenty horses means four four grooms in california. We have a hot walking machine that i could put full losses on at one time but still you can't just put them on our welcome machine especially if they're breezing so i have to hire a fort rooms to our walkers to exercise writers have to worry about at the feed guy the tack guy the vets the blacksmith the workmen's compensation and that has nothing to do with my personal. That's just business you know and people don't realize how a train is. Life is so consumed especially when you're carrying a lot of washes you just constantly thinking about them. You know i used to tell everybody to story in a it's it's to this day and intrigues me. I used to go by alan jerkins and night after we would hate off the losses at the barn at belmont and allen would go home and allen above the honeymooners loved the honeymooners he watched every honeymoon episode about seventeen thousand times you could actually quote them and we'd sit on the couch and lights tim on the right side on the end and he'd sit towards the middle and lay his point is likes to the left and at the bottom of his legs was a blackboard doc ward and also now. Here's an unknown fact that nobody not too. Many people know alan jerking smoked. He smoked ten cigarettes. He smoked a couple of before he went to bed because he said they would put him to sleep. I wasn't gonna argue with him so anyway. We'd be watching a honeymoon is and talking and all of a sudden you pop up uses. <hes> you raise something in walk something else else. He loved the board. Give the aboard in front of him which forty forty or forty four losses names on it out in the barn obviously and he'd be sitting now and and all that ed norton kills me jump up change and other thing you know so he constant even even when in his breast when he was wrestling in at home he was still thinking about what he was gonna do when he got to that blonde in the morning and changing you know certain in pants voices and stuff like that guy was a genius. It'd be greatest you know but that's what it takes you gotta. That's why it is eighty-five percent divorce rate amongst trainers. I didn't know that number but it looks like you got to choose between your career and the horses or family. That's why talking point pointing for a trainer to if they're going to have a significant other that somebody that's in tune with them and loves the game like he does well. She does not easy believe me. It's funny and the travel in warri in equipment and medications in make sure the two groomed and give this or i'll make sure this guy in switch tubs and nick something accidentally. You know it's <hes> it's very intricate very intricate yeah. The the trainer has to stay on top of all of that plus. He has to deal with the clients and has to go over the condition book and pick the right spots and then you gotta you gotta deal with the jackie agents and and all that you you were a jocky agent to i became an agent because i was too lazy to work until nervous to steal uh-huh i was fortunate. I was very very fortunate. <hes> felony bobby woodhouse gave me mike. I chanced to cut my teeth so to say and i worked for bobby. Eleven months we went about twenty seven races and level months incidentally between here and out of town and <hes> f- won a tony brown came to me and said you know i. I think you've got this aging thing going goofy you. You need to take a step up because bobby was getting ready to retire. He's going to give you a guy who's number in florida colin and he gave me the number of a jock name. Resort cortisol says <hes> this position yeah i should my name is toni stabile. I'm an agent new york. You wanna leave right here. In nineteen eighty-eight when the strike broke out and then you went back to call there and never came back here you went to florida and never came back. Would you come back. If i was willing to take your book you should who you i saw. Let me let me tell you that you've now. I'm the best agent new york and you're the best writer. If you were to come to new york said to me. Give me a number. I call you back in a little bit so he must have called some people and they give him the okay he flew in. I rode would one race fallon jerkins on a filly named shopping. She went off the t._v. Screen the first time he run a reward off scotty shoe hopper. You want to about ten weeks later. She went off the t._v. Screen and that showed everybody puzzle was back in town and he he started october twenty third and we went into academic winter meet with a full head of esteem and we probably would've beaten mike smith for the title if we didn't have so many days the fact that he got days and the fact that mike smith picked up about twenty of our winters meant to difference of us winning the title but i was fortunate will pursue. I had a great riding in filiberto leone. Probably the best bug ride i ever saw including coffin including all the bug riders to get into us. Left handed ended which allen jargons loves. You know that was a big thing with him. If jocketty was left handed and get them to change leads you know that's the guy he wanted but still bertil did something that i don't believe any other apprentices have done in the last thirty forty years when he had the five pound bug doc. I won three grade one stakes with him on three different choices. That's a little known fact one press a racing arlington arlington oaks for delco anyone to great one salad jerk in new york the calmly and i believe and the new one was in one was in new york and the other one was the meadowlands breeders cup and <hes> with racetrack is on a hundred fifty thousand grade. One with the bug had another great bug right. Ira lewis vows. I travel dunkelberg who went on to be like the king of charlestown. All sound roll roll haas together kent them. Oh <hes> pulse in dab plus india was was was a real good bug writer but he grew out of the saddle but he was he was as good as any write it out and i was fortunate. I was fortunate to have decent writers and the less right i have is. An agent was a fella rides in prescott name eddie dominguez he is he's as go to riders. There is believe me when i tell you just doesn't have the exposure so i've i was blessed. I did well as an agent every jock. I haven't made living with and <hes> i'm not doing it anymore. Because trainings have been my first love from the beginning and <hes> clients are hard to come by clients to come by and sometimes when you do come by a decent client they all of a sudden <music> sudden turn into <hes> sunny jim fitzsimmons. Everybody wants to be a trainer. I i trained for a filling a bayer. He's the one that brought me back into training in press kyle. We ran seventy five hundred dollars. It's up to a quarter of a million. I meet and we started to meet five weeks late. <hes> i claim to philly moore's office seventy five hundred and she just kept winning races and i kept claiming losses with the money she won. One claimed the black tie event same thing i took for seventy five hundred we kept winning slaughter handicaps in allowance allowance races and that money we claim morse's with and another listening symphony forty one. I claim for twelve five. I want him back for twenty five. He won won a couple more races with them and we claimed the rest of the bonds rose. Three bosses bought a twenty. That's pretty good. Eddie had other business ventures that would take up too much of his time. He wound up selling <hes> his part of hill farm to a business lady from the area and i stayed with her until it'll be three weeks ago saturday. You know she was nice lady. You know didn't complain much for the money up but but evidently some people some she she got around some quote unquote advisers and it got to the point where she was telling me what strategy to how to raise the us put him on leave. Take them back. Put blinkers on take lincoln. Don't run them in this race. You gotta run them in that race so i finally said you know what i've done. My did. I did the best i could take you out of my bond so she took seven west is out of the barn and gave them the leading trainer at a press kyle but i don't mind because i know i did the right thing. I did the best i could you know and i know that i have clients and the wings so that's the way to gainesville you. Don't wanna burn any bridges. I have nothing to they never know when you're going to get back together with somebody. That's right. That's exactly right whatever it is. You let bygones be bygones and businesses business. You might change your relationship tactics with them. You might not go out to dinner with them anymore or you might not be on the phone our day with them anymore. But you know business his business and sometimes train is do have the whole car to certain losses so they might wanna try and and you know make a deal yet. Come by actually listen to source ain't going no good but he did good with you. You wanna take so sometimes you do. Sometimes you know yeah well. I read when i was doing research for this program. I i read that you've always been an animal guy that you liked. Dogs and horses and you had a way when you were younger with with was kind of mean mean type. Dogs used to be able to handle. I'm like what do they call it. I believe the term idiot. Savant like the meanest meanest dog won't bite me. I went to a friend's house. One day <hes> bring out of bringing <hes> some specialty specialty stuff from a store in manhattan and i went to the house i rang the bell his wife let me in greeted me. Let me in all of a sudden. This giant black child come running at me and he come down stuff screaming his wife. I told you to lock dog up. The dog saw he was notorious for biting anybody that came near the knee of the house. He looked pieces your freak he said there's something wrong with you because that dog will kill you explain from i should listen on my block when i was going up it was was a german shepherd named shop to go after everybody as soon as he would see me when i get close to me start wagging his tail and trying to jump up on so i've been fortunate in life and you know animals to things don't lie animals and kids and the worst kids the worst bratty kids. There are no such thing as a bad kid. I mean just act the way they act. Sometimes i love all children. Believe me when i tell you that <hes> but the ones that are what we would consider bratty your bad kids who were nasty kids they just seem to to. I'm like a magnet. They come to me. They don't and then the parents say asia. What do you do you did you give kids some some kind of tranquilizer something you know because they noted them sincerely no that won't hurt them and when i speak to them i don't speak to on different levels like a lot of people talk to kill the baby talk and stuff like that. I try and relate to them. I try low myself to their age yet. Let them understand that. I'm the older of the two and just try and work. A conversation with the kids are comfortable. It's not simple same thing with animals if you if you're they sent to an when you're when you're afraid or or your nasty or your dads they no. You can't fool kids animals else. I've been blessed my lifetime to be you know good would poke yet. It's great well. I think that has a lot to do with you. You know <hes> intuition too. When you claim a horse like you you talked about the horses that you claim for that man and and had the fantastic meet with what what's your philosophy when you're when you're looking for horses to claim okay i have no in between i cleaned from the best trainer or the worst trainers. I don't go i i. I don't look to claim wolf middle of the road guys. If i feel worse really needs a lot of work nutritionally medicinally early cosmetically go after them if i like awards from <hes> a leading trainer honor. I'll look back to see who's had the horse before them. If there was anybody and then i'll go after that unless you know not i don't go. I don't go for the middle of the road trainers because i know how they run their operations see. I'm a student at a game this does nobody i don't know i don't have to know them personally to know their m._o. And i just just wait and wait and wait and you know i've been fortunate. I took one for that lady. Who i leave the bond and a partner a couple about a month and a half ago. I watched this saucer on. I said you know i think that can improve the sauce. I took them to sixty. Two fifty a running back for twelve five win strangled. He win owned by four lynch strangled when he's iran backed allowance race and that's where my trouble slaughtered with my owners. They wanted me to run them in the slot handicap. I told them notice is too good for the slaughter handicap so it's gonna run an allowance greystone wanna come back on august nineteenth in the slot handicap with the pots thirty. Four thousand spot of the distance series oppress kyle. This is begging to run a mile and a half so we'll go to your allowance race. I a mile and an eighth than the allowance race this father allowance on the nineteenth well the sought handicapped went that day also and it happened to be the race before hours and some would never lost us won the race and then we round and finish third but the fact of the matter is there was no pace they went three quarters of mile in fifteen change going a mile and the and the washes that read one to you couldn't buy for fifty thousand a piece if you went to the end to a train those horses and said look. I'll give you fifty thousand he'd laugh at you. Now i had taken my gloss. The sixty two fifty two slots back running for the twelfth five win then i ran a ministry finished third so economically economically first time i run them. I got the owners got ten thousand two hundred and then he run third any allowance race. They got another another thirty two hundred so altogether. They got thirteen thousand four hundred dollars. They paid sixty to you fifty so that's like seven thousand profit and he's still on the horse yet. They still weren't happy because i didn't run them in the slot the handicap that's the way the game is. That's what we have to deal with. Sometimes it borders on lunacy. Yes sometimes tell you know everybody's an adviser. Everybody's got an opinion and you know whatever we were. Also everybody else has so you know you gotta just take with a grain of salt to the move on yeah wash out of boston and getting mentioning names or anything that was in for an owner and talk bona kept telling me i really wanna see the saucer front. I said listen. We'll take them back. He's run great. Ah me taking him back. He doesn't wanna be on the engineering more right before. I walked into salvador. She comes up and he says well listen. If i don't want any good today next time you're going to change the equipment and you're gonna put. I said i'll tell you what when you wanna wanna be you. You got it walked in. The panic saddled the west jockey mouth. I said okay jack. Send him but we know she wants him in front. Don't send him we sent them. You got nothing. I just looked at her after as is and now what yeah no. What do you want to say no well. He wouldn't one anyway. I see you're right. You know why because you know everything. I know nothing when you know everything. You're negate six months. I've been out here forty seven years. You're genius see tamar. Hold that thought we'll be field food for these people out of a field in california named total sh- action coveted much mud. You couldn't even see him and he's a great. He looked like a sniper who water hold that. Hold that thought because we gotta go to break. We'll be right back after these words. 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Up saratoga single-day google dave bundles visit jared dot com slash saratoga to learn more. This is trainer talk presented by facing tipton on the horse racing radio network. Santa's galore is a turn for home or dominator. Come calling for the lead alpha dr grudgingly gift way white outside. It's best here comes. Nam run you rolling down the center track and now on the run. You hit the talk dreams. The john's battles along with dr now run you chop burst over out by dr block strike and dreams d._r. Jaw welcome back to trainer talk presented by phasing tipton. This jude fell. I want to remind you that if you missed any portion one of the show it will be archived on our website horse racing radio dot net and is also available at horse racing radio on. I tunes back to our conversation with trainer. Tony stability tony before we left for break you were talking about a horseshoe picked out of a field <hes> full of mud and not really really look like a horse total distraction looked like a donkey knife or dunkin so but he was he was really using you. You look like an athlete you know. This degree was just ordinary so i got the horse going. Finally then there was some issues with them. I yelled at him. I sent him back to a fellow named eric garin in the area who who's good with horses because he was starting to get koko wanna race track and making pure wets and lefts and rights so eric took him out to his farm shane them out sent him back to me. I took him back out to california and i got him ready <music>. I'm telling you just saw started. He went from a complete juvenile delinquent to a perfect gentleman and one sunday. I don't know what happened like just went on his head and he stopped his antics and he saw the train like a bear. I couldn't believe it running first time. I thought i was robbing memory. Shack us thirty five to one lowest works for legitimate. Every work was printed. He gets sloughed coming out of the gate. Twelve wide around race shot gets beat the length and three quarters running back easter sunday. You went wire-to-wire twenty to forty five fifty seven and one one foreign one as i'm walking out of the paddock. Jerry home buffet comes over to me. He said that's so nice. Oh she got there. I said thanks sherry. Just congratulations did a good job. I watched it. I was in the morning and because he was great. You know he's a great list pretty much you sell. It could be one hundred thousand for what tell your own. I'll give you a hundred thousand wanna come over tomorrow morning. Look at them. I'll bring my bet came the next morning he found him in the stall. My man took them out. You jogged them up and down the road. That came looked at him concrete or do you offer that that could've made a tremendous profit. That's where we you gotta. Put up with this business. Yeah that happens that happens a p._s. I ran back three weeks lady chip disney <hes> so you know what i'm saying. It's things like that that that make you want him. You know when i when i called intended the off uh instead of saying wow hundred thousand. How much do you get out of that. That was my response. You know what can i do. What can i say. I said i get five percent on sale. I get ten percent yards but five percent of them. Well you know what tell them. We want a hundred and twenty. He was given top dollar. It was at one hundred you know. I knew wouldn't give on your twenty. I told him anyway he said now. Forget it but it's things like that again. People need to be educated if you don't mind you. I'd like to expound on two war to things that are really important to me. Go ahead as far as maybe this'll help. Some trainers to people don't realize realize trainers in particular realized how important it is for you to be racing and have a working relationship with the people that run that track and again i got no. I got no allegiance to anybody. I'm independent. I do my thing. I go coast to coast host. I can go anywhere. I want. The people in the sean group at golden gate they've dug in patrick took mac and <hes> steve martin nellie carry force it while the girls office there. I'll i tell you what they make it so easy for a trainer to do business. They'll remind you about races his they'll of course they're gonna try and halsey especially in this day and age with the shortage of horses but if they do hustle eliya and you need a race somewhere down the line. You're gonna get your race. They work with you. They're not looking for me me me. Me me me me. They look to help you. If you need to expand they do everything they can to give you extra stalls. The facility ability guy named william resute came in to the facility he started whipping a facility into shape again at the behest of duggan and patrick mackey so that place as far as catering to train has a place would have to really really really really work very hard to match them. It makes it so easy for me to go in there and and coordinate my bond and get everything ready and they come to the one and help you like when i shift in the first time touch mccain to the ball on my face. He said he has u._p. Pees on your loss. This is the new book no. I knew what all my hus- well before now. He's he gives me a printout of the new book nine hundred i can go. You don't get that kind of courtesy another place chris kyle allen clever. I think i'll have a pat mackie. Mike lake how the three greatest racing secretaries ever race with because they care for the horsemen. It's a very very very important thing that you have harmony with the western. Maybe they're higher ups. I don't have the relationship that they should which is most of the time a lot of places spas golden gate impress impress kyle. You gotta be stupid not to race there. If you have the opportunity at both places press kyle matt n._s. The president kevin o'sullivan and like i said allen clever the greatest the marketing lady at jennifer see the the greatest you need. Something need a reservation. You need passing. You need this. You know problem same thing. It'd press in a <hes> golden gate never a problem. They cater to us. That's what we need is one of the thing that's really really really really gnawing at me. I've been watching everything with the group was calling buffalo delmar stuff in louisiana. We'll tell you what i gain needs like baseball hockey football basketball. They have a commission. We need a commission. You know i've sold to a lot of people in the past couple of weeks six. They can't even tell me the the three people had the t oreo for whatever reason they're not out there. They don't put themselves was out. There not supposed to be all representative body. We have one problem the main problem there is no uniformity of the medication rules not zero. It's not in major league baseball. I mean professional baseball. The major leagues and minor leagues are blanketed uniform. I'm wolf guy gets offended for drugs or whatever is the same suspension in double a ball as it is a majorly but when it comes to us racist if leading trainer in whatever state and the guy in oakland finocchio downs all up a lower calibre racing place like will rogers down so let's say and a trainer in california get the same drug positive especially. If that trainer in california is one or leading trainers you can bet me. He's gonna get bus stays than the guy in will rogers bounce. I see it time and time and again. That's the norm that shouldn't be. We need somebody. Who's gonna come in coordinate our business go. Thing is the thing with the licensing. I mean you know it's like being like like certain states like a mob. They just shake you down for every quarter. They could get out of you. He needs to pay this water is aging. You need to pay this stable name. He's paid just to register your callers mug. Good one price north america. You licensed in new york. You'll licensed in california chicago one license one time nobody's coordinators. There's no commissioner oversee. Everything is no board to rule on things the way the world is today. The world can't even get themselves. Shamed out you see what goes on in congress and with the the <hes> these gangs you see the way president is treated. They treated the president like this thirty years ago. Forty years ago all been in jail retain retain what they say doing what they do so it's that bad in the country. You think anybody cares about las racing but we have to ourselves. We need to police it. We need to get a commission. We need to vote on the board. We we need uniformity rules regulations licensing. I'll tell you something too and believing. I know the guy like this for for forty years. We've never eaten went to dinner together. Never happen socialized. I'm gonna tell you would be a good guy for that though named gary contessa asa he's well liked. He's well versed. He's wrote a manifest published in the poet report. I've watched his videos. We need to get a guy like death if you would give up training. I don't know if he would even do that but that's the person we need or person like him. You know he cares. It's nothing he cares very helpful. All the backstretch people love them. The owners level management loves. You got a guy you gotta get gary contessa or somebody like him and he's probably gonna kill me for me saying because he does not know i was going to do this storm. That's what we need you. Maybe jude food fell to well. I always thought it'd be a good commissioner. I i always thought i would be <hes>. It'd be good at it but you know the thing is you're one hundred percent correct. <hes> the hurdle we face of course is every state is different. I mean i i learned that the hard way or the easy anyway maybe in california trainer's licence three hundred dollars right so i ran i ran in arkansas one day and they went targets on get my trainer's license and they said that'll be ten bucks because what ten bucks delaware's five bucks you. You never seen you in person. You're a pretty big guy right like yeah definitely. Do you know we can go to delaware for five dollars and get a jockey license. Yes that's five bucks. You get a jockey's license. Even i was agent. I wouldn't even at the taking your book yeah. No no feelings. I'd be good at punt the you know that's what it is. You wanna license five bucks. Just give us the money yeah. I mean even though it's five five bucks you know. It's never going to happen but they still. They'll still sell it to you. You know in nothing and you know i'm from missouri. You gotta show me and i have to admit something. I've been very ignorant as far as adhering to some of this stuff but a dear friend of mine for forty years named bob fox has i've been asking me for the past four or five years to saw using natural oils essential oils and sabs and i'm gonna tell you something now bob's not vendor. I'm not a vendor so you'd have to go out on your own and get it but it works. I couldn't believe how good the natural oils sales and herbs work on horses. It's it's just like. I have neuropathy bad neuropathy. He gave me a mixture to use draining him frankencense lavender and hempel since i started using it gone never gonna go but my life has been so much better. I could never sleep through at night using these essential oils. I can sleep through now. Think about how that works with the was. I'd one wants down not gonna mention his name. When i got the oil so myself i started using them on him. I only inc another seven to another natural sav out. I never put a bandage on him again and he had knees and ankles. I just would put the oils in my hand. I take a little scopus of of the sav rava joppy oils on it and rub it into his knees ankles. No bandages no sweat. No nothing works so these are the things that allow train old bows and they don't you know no maybe entertain or experiment with that can help divorces. It really really helps them. The last thing i want to see is the sole plus. I mean you've been through it. You don't have to tell you you've been through the wars. Yes thing happened to me this year out of philly breaker knee inside the sixteen poll. She never took a bad stuff in her life. It happens happens. You don't know things happen with this. Pita and all these other organizations now now. It's not abuse if these horses weren't taken care of by us they'd be running around being chased by wolves and bears. I didn't understand that people we give the best kennedy sources we give off time to blood sweat out years years. It took two weeks to get over that philly people on the stand they they're not just all horses. Their children like blood twist courses. Just hope the public you know get behind racing again like it was in the fifties the forty s come out ask questions. I wished the race tracks would educate them. Have the breakfast mornings on the weekends bench. Those things are invaluable like breakfast at belmont that anthony does great program at santa anita taken the fans back on on trams through the barn area and showing them what goes on back there i believe in that stuff <hes> one hundred percent and there there's so many <hes> opportunities as for for fans to to learn in the race traction staff to provide <hes> you know the the vehicle for them to learn it. I mean it's it's there. There and people want to come out. They wanna see the horses they want to be able to touch them and be close to them and <hes> you know i think they should do more that keeneland. It does a great job with that on saturday mornings you see so many families coming out and the pony riders are are great to the kids and and <hes> there's programs compete with those people should do whether they can afford it or not. They should go and go to sales just so they could witness the magic at at the sales just looking at the wasn't look at the expression on people's faces. Is that whenever bidding and stuff like that. They're hoping that probably the first week of may with their buying ring is going to be standing in the winner's circle. You know this business. I'll business is built on. Two things are very very wise. Man told me this once one of the greatest selectors of horses i've ever seen in my life. He he was the greatest. He told me. Don't forget this. This game is built on two things hype and opinion and if you really think about it he's one hundred percent light hundred percent right now. It just takes us to coordinate ourselves together again again. Get the game back where it should be and hopefully everybody'll be fine. The the animals come first. We understand that that's i'll main job is to keep the animal safe between the safety rails. The the the whip rules medication moves. That's the way it's gotta be. If you just joined assist jude feldman. I'm visiting with trainer. Tony stability trainer talk presented by facebook tipton on the horse racing radio network yeah that would be that would be he just wonderful if if we could get back to the good old days where the trainers were all <hes> helping one another you're in and it was camaraderie right. He will people don't understand used to be one guy on forty courses now forty dollars forty me guys on one was that's fine. That's great that everybody gets a chance to live the dream but you know what it's gotta be constant we need. We need a fan base. We need people coming out. We need people showing their kids so it's not bad everyone. Here's all those gambling well gambling everywhere. You know what i'm saying. If you go to a bizarre or feast yeah you bet on numbers and stuff. It's gambling. I mean people have to keep trying different forms of visiting the track. They wanna watch on t._v. Like the old adage goes. There's nothing like getting the shoop shoop affecting your pajamas. That's the greatest i've i've. It's happened to me many times. There's no greater feeling hitting pick for or a super perfect and your pajamas knowing that you go to that account the next morning. It's laying right there for you. That's right tack with for the for for a fresh nine well. It's a it's a it's a great game and <hes> a lot of people appreciate it. I think <hes> it's it's a great entertainment for family. <hes> you know i learned so much when i was a kid going to the race tracks as a matter matter of fact i book i book report ever did was on a book called making money on the races that belonged to my dad and then none was not happy with that and she called my mother and tell you now now but then when fractions came third grade for actions i drew a race track on the board and on the chalkboard and put in the polls and i said this this is a quarter mile from the finish and this is a half and she she was kind of impressed and i said what do the kids. Let's get to bring the kids out. You know every track has a park area game room. You know <hes> if if i may i'll tell you one more quick story about anthony. I'm an agent at the time and i i wasn't trying to make anthony <hes> juvenile delinquent or anything but if he liked better for i mean he wasn't stealing taking his allowance money. Your is is to save money going to a window at eight years old on years old. I'd ask him but we like because he could read the form from when he was about five years old one day. I have a wife hoisted. I was riding in the last race and he came up to me said that can i bet a double. Can i bet some triples shock. We'd want some races earlier so i had money i i am. I had money aside for him. I said just tell me what you want so he gave me his numbers. I wrote them down and went to the window. I handed him tickets well p._s. The race's over the horse wins and it was me my ex wife. My daughter and a gift friend of mine passed away couple of years ago richie frankel and his wife and daughter. Anthony comes flying in from outside. He comes running up to us. We're standing under the to- he said folks chinese on me tonight. That's descr got this. I got everything. He says. They is eight nine years old. I got everything chinese on me he won about. I think it was three fifty or three hundred seventy dollars. That's great but you know he became by winning about like that. He became one of shockwave right you know he he got the thrill of winning scene. His father's jockey's win races. You know he was involved yeah. It's it's the only sporting event you can go to and you can get involved for well. What used to be two bucks now you you can get involved for a diamond i and again. I'm not you know. I'm trying not to go overboard here judge. Where can you go and bet a buck on a triple a soup affect the pick for dick five three pick six picky knows take anything and get some of the rewards that they pay yeah. No you can get bet a buck and win grand palace every day of the week. We're going to the racetrack. That's right what a dying guys. They bang out they kill forty trees a day with the pay with with the the amount to take say about got sacking facts to a ten cents soup. Is you know what the content that content the only get an attempt to pay out or twenty into the payout. It's a two hour bus happy and sometimes they catch a six thousand nine one when they use bombs and stuff like that yeah yeah. That's what it's about right. Well believe it or not in churchill said nothing better for the inside of a man the outside of a horse right chores never spoken believe it or not we've come to the end of the hour and i can't believe it. I could talk to you for another hour. <hes> i really enjoyed it. I i appreciate it and i hope the people got to get a better understanding under understanding of the game and i thank you very much. Thanks for being here. We really appreciate it. Thanks to lead dela pena our producer sakib keeping us in line and remo mind everybody to listen to the show that launched the network the coin forum eight o'clock every saturday morning. Check the website horse racing radio dot net for affiliates series x._m. 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Curt Schilling on the Hall of Fame, Impeachment, President Trump, The Media, ESPN and Being Cancelled

The Gerry Callahan Podcast

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Curt Schilling on the Hall of Fame, Impeachment, President Trump, The Media, ESPN and Being Cancelled

"Man this. This is grueling. This is our fifth day of doing the Jerry. Kelly PODCAST I. I know we promised your Monday. Through Thursday this is a special addition addition of the Gerry Callahan. PODCAST Week one day. Five a friend Curt Schilling joins us in as you know curt schilling. He can talk man he can talk but we sat down talked to former. ESPN analyst Future Hall of Famer. Kurt Schilling on the Gerry Callahan. PODCAST presented did Bhai Shaykh concrete ally paving and The lovely Legacy Club of Boston. This is the Gerry Callahan. PODCAST iced former Red Sox pitcher former baseball analyst extraordinaire on ESPN and Future Hall of Famer Front Curt Schilling. What's happening? Chill Chill Gerry. How're you doing doing all right? A big question is what tell you been. Doin' everyone who knows that we're friendly and I talked. You occasionally like you come and go sometimes. You're all over twitter and all over the Internet and other times you just disappear if you've been shadow band Yeah I have for about a year and a half two years I really Yeah But I kind of knew I. Twitter has funny math when it comes to conservatives because I had about a quarter million followers Two and a half years ago. I've gained little over three hundred thousand in that two years and I now have two hundred sixty thousand okay and do you find out at mathworks. Do you ever get the details. Do you ever get a hold of someone and say. Why are you doing this to me? No no it's obvious. Yes I mean come on. There's certain things you know. I I'm I'm from the school of like the real world and like like You know not everything. I understand what they're doing why they're doing it. I'm not sure if they I guess I just wonder if they really realize were not all as dumbs they think we are right. But you know it's just one of those things no big deal but you're good on twitter. I I mean you're you like the fight you go back and forth with liberals and you and you put some thought some effort into it. I mean this. They should appreciate appreciate that. It's not like you just bombed toss. You're certainly not you know. Some kind of white supremacists while we've we've learned that that when your there were no longer. It's it's not a normal period of time not just in this country but in the world and I say that because we know for a fact that over the last what three and a half years. CNN's ratings have tanked yes tanked. They can't even they're getting out drawn by kids sets a joke. It's amazing when you talk the top twenty five there. There's like one show in their from salmon chain but they haven't changed their agenda. That's a good point. They're thinking banking they're losing money. Obviously they're losing money and they're they've lost millions and millions of viewers but nothing's changed from a content perspective so it it's very much like when you say you know liberals hate trump more than they love America right the the the last hates trump up more than they like doing their jobs from Minneapolis. You could say the same thing Kurt about the Washington Post near Tons Boston Globe. I mean they their our top priority. Is You know the resistance. The top pray well stopping trump. It's not doing journalism but backup about eighty years. I and and let's run the Washington Post headline Nazi leader poet. Hitler assassinated right. I mean the things that I've read and and and the I don't know if it can't be a lack of self awareness I I guess again I I it really is. It's kind of been a joke. punchline for companies like trump derangement syndrome. You know whatever. But it's real they. Their hatred of him is so raw and so so strong that overrides commonsense and then. They don't look at what they say and what they do from the articles of impeachment. which apparently were you know? They had to be done immediately. Because time is of the essence. He's running the constitution. Listen to Nancy saying basically. I'm going to rewrite the Senate House rules So they make sure to have the trial I want them to have Mitch McConnell's like wait what I want to get back to your situation because you you are the poster boy my mind of the canceled culture but let's let's do trump. I know you and I are both right wings. Zealots and we've learned to embrace a guy that we didn't love initially in Donald Trump and I think One of the great things. He has gone inform. Kurt is his enemies he has. I mean I forget what he does is says he can just sit back and let you know Ilan Omar or or Chuck Schumer or Chuck Todd for that matter could let them do their thing and it does nothing but elevate him. I think last week this week was was his best week yet. I think his speech after you know the missiles landed at our basis and killed nobody is speech. Was the best speech yet. Lindsey Graham call that his tear down that wall moment. I mean I think last stuck to the script he didn't go off script. He stuck to the teleprompter and it was almost like he was articulating the trump doctrine at the same time but at the same time by the way he's enemies were rooting for Iran. Right now I mean that. And you say that you're not being facetious or you know playing with words. I mean they really. We had people in this country apologizing to the largest country of state-sponsored terrorism on the planet. Right we had people apologize. We had women who if they had said what they said in the country they were talking about what had been beaten. Don't screw because they didn't have their he job on and and you know they. I mean the videos of of the oppression that that that those terrorists believing leaving the Sharia law and all the other stuff that goes with that is is mind boggling yet. We've got a group of people who want to I believe the most inclusive yet they are the most exclusive group ever when you the leaders of the squad Toledo and Omar yesterday when trump was making it To Leap said you know we should have never killed Salam rainy in that was wrong. And I'm thinking. Wait a second people in your town in your in your district lost limbs because this guy blew him up in Iraq and Omar comes out and says she suffering from secondhand PS PTSD. She's in Washington. They're people who are genuinely suffering. Gosh who've been to war guys who've lost so pathetic I mean if that's not offensive. That's not well. Let's add to the fact that you saw the video when and So I WANNA say it was Schumer but somebody was discussing the casualties over there talking about it and in the background Omar's laughing joking and giggling with somebody I mean I. I don't know how to put this any other way. They're just really really really bad people and and I don't and I mean that in the truest sense of the word they are really really bad people but but you know what I'm also a a history buff And I know And I'm a Christian. I've always heard but never believed until now the saying that you know America will never fall from from a foreign enemy it will be. It will me inside out and I I gotTa tell you. That's exactly what I see happening. I can't agree more because you know these guys. These people going nowhere. Does anyone think Omar Leib or or Oriana Presley. We're going to get up by some Republican. That's not going to happen. There are nine primary right and their their party's not l.. They're running the party as we. Yeah well I I. I think it's very I worked for the young America's foundation and I get a chance to speak at college campuses and you know it's become come very simple For the Modern Day conservative in the sense that this has become a true battle for information the information being being informed and and being educated about the news takes time and effort now which is which is exactly how the left has won over. Its its sheep in. The sense is that they've forever been late too lazy to do their own homework so they let someone else to tell them what the news is. And that's because that's the only way we can get ahead here. There's no logical path to where we are as a country. There is there just isn't and now you have people. Well I mean before. He was desi waters on Fox News. The videos of him going to college campuses exposing the absolute absolutely ignorance masters students on basic. US history. That's not a small thing. I I actually talked about it yesterday. I it's something. I posted a post on facebook and and one of the things I said was we laughed and we joke about the fact that the left is trying to erase history from. I'm rewriting what the Koran is and means to to To Tearing Down Statue the left believes if you get rid of history it never happened. What is why were were getting where we are now? Can you imagine if we had You know someone's at Hey. Hey guys there's this dude over in Europe with a little mustache she's basically started. Kill a lot of juice and responsibly. Hey you know what. That's their problem. The doesn't matter to me. Let's let them take care of it or they would find a way to blame trump. I'm not sure how that would work. But like the these people they're they're non interventionists when they meet to be an warhawks when they when they need to be as they play both sides of the fence offense on every topic. I and you mentioned Jesse waters on campuses seen Dennis prager. I'm sure a Adam Corolla movie yet. It is frightening. I saw a poll poll yesterday and it was the question was Is the US the best country on earth and it went by age. And I think the age went up to twenty five twenty five and under a maybe twenty eight and under and more than half fifty four fifty six percent said no and when you went to sixty or sixty five and over it was nine percent so you know in the older people in our age fifties they were overwhelmingly said yes. Of course it is. I mean of course it has but more than half of young people people Blah ages of my kids and yours. Don't think this is the Ben. I don't know what they think is the best country. Maybe you know maybe Iran. They're not sure but I mean it's it these troubling it's troubling until you realize how stupid people are right. I mean th these are the same people that are that are walking around calling themselves fastest assist who if they were spending two minutes in Russia would have their ass kit. The these these ANTIFA cowards. Who Want to run around and tell people? They're anti fascist ashes while acting exactly like a fascist acts. It's it's pathetic it's embarrassing. I think it's hilarious. That we've got a group of people who say they're fighting for the rights of all illegals and and blacks and Latinos and Muslims in the mugshots very one of them is a twenty two year old white male or female other all white the right bill and you know have them a trust fund kids there you know. And they're not one of them is is employed. Now it's it's it's pathetic and to think that that that is I guess the bellwether for the let their proud event he sir but committed violence Mitt. Romney defended a minute. Yeah I gotta say as anybody. Fallen fallen is far from grace. He has in the last couple of years. I mean there's there's a nice list that candidates but I think under the radar. This guy is absolutely destroyed. Every every ounce of credibility question how you have those country songs like unanswered you know. God Brooks talks about unanswered prayers. You thank God for unanswered prayers because your high school sweetheart dumped you and then you found you real. Well think of this. I know you were on the same page as I was saying. I was so disappointed that Romney Lost Obama. I I thought it was a winnable. I thought he wasn't tough enough but I liked him. I rooted for him. I was crushed when he lost. Thank God he lost. Thank God my man and Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney. Because I think of it we without yeah. We don't get trump if we have romney for one term or two terms. Nothing I mean. It's a shame right. Willie got trump because of Obama. I mean there's that can be. There can be no mistaking that and you know that might have been the biggest gift of all twenty twenty right now we're gonNA get in historic fashion or or the left is going to rig the election and we're GONNA have a civil war I I you know I. I say that tongue in cheek kind of because when I see the things that are happening just like the gun. Grab going on in Virginia and realize that it's happening in the within the confines of the borders of this nation. It's terrifying it is. But here's the thing I know you. You probably like me. You weren't all that enthusiastic about trump. Sometimes in the debates in the primaries he was embarrassing. You said some dumb stuff he said that's the dumbest thing of all but your friend John McCain but right now I feel like I'm not one hundred percent but I'm pretty sure he's getting reelected thank God and it's partly because those things are going so well I tell people judge them on what he does not what he says and what he's doing right now is working but also the opposition has lost their minds and they lose their Is because of him he makes them right. I mean you've seen every Democrat wants to give free healthcare to legal aliens Pete. Buddha judge wants to pay reparations Shin's to legal aliens Elizabeth. Warren says she's going to walk out in the Rose Garden once a year and read the names of clack peaking of black transgender victims. uh-huh of murder. They have lost their minds. I'm I'm rooting for Liz. By the wedding. But you but I'm rooting for the fake Indian. Because I think that debate one on one trump and warned could be fascinating. Yeah I would love to see him. I I gotTa tell you when I I would I would love to get on stage with that woman I really would because proved to the world that one year junior college can make you intellectually equal to a Harvard. The teacher right. I mean the the things that come out of her mouth again. I keep going back to a really bad person. I agree and she's not. I mean they feel they feel emboldened enabled by the media because they can lie. Guys people like her. When there was a kid she was doing bent? Some seven or eight year old kid said if you get it elected will you stop global warming and she said Oh yes and I'm thinking. If there were any honesty in the media they would say excuse me. You're not going to stop global right. You know how about this. How do you plan on doing that? President Warren yesterday she said she was going to Medicaid for all for all and it wouldn't cost a dime in additional taxes for the Middle Class A blatant lie. We all know that's not true but nobody's GonNa call her out of you or me. Well I mean. Didn't you get the feeling that during the cavenaugh hearings that the left has gotten to a place where they no longer care about doing things is logically or doing things ethically or doing things morally. They just care about getting their way. They've tried to ruin people. Good good people. I mean I wasn't enthusiastic about trump initially running but I've known him for fourteen years and I know beyond everything else. I yes I I guess I would tell you. I think I'm similar to him in the sense. You know. There's some times when you just think that I really just. Let's say that and I don't know that he really has ever had that moment because I don't think he cares but there's nothing more challenging on on twitter than someone who's not funny thinking they are and he he's not a very funny guy never has been. I'm not a fan of trump equity some people Some of our friends on the right. They love it. You Know Hannity and these people love it. I cringe a lot of times when he tweets in the capital letters. And like well take a look at your. You and I have to work harder right because because listen. I stopped looking for moral compass. When Bill Bill Clinton was being served in the Oval Office? Monica Lewinsky. I don't look for a moral compass in the White House. I just want stuff to get done. I'll all handle bill. My moral and ethics The way I feel right and handling them and to take that a little bit farther I know based on the people that are that hate me and that right the things and say the things about me they do that. I'm on the right side of things when when somebody like Dan Sean say who who's lice apparently is a lot more sinful than he would lead us to all have believed talks trash on you and hates you. You've done something right and I say you know I I. It's it's one of those things people on twitter or facebook post. I hate your guts. You Racist Bigot. I feel like okay. Those are exactly the people that are supposed to hate my guts. That's right that's why I'll always like you. Hopefully we'll always be friends because I respect that so much when you don't care are you. Don't back down. You don't acquiesce as you know. In this day and age it's hard to do. A lot of people are favorite. A lot of people are afraid to voice. All you pay more because they we know that the you know the twitter verse is going to come down on them and crush them if they say the wrong thing and you know like I said earlier you're like in my mind. You're the poster boy of the cancel culture you were on. Espn you were doing games. You're very very good at it. You were the best analyst out there you lost your job because of a a medium that you re tweeted and some things you said about whenever but issues politics no big deal you just were on the wrong side. I mean at the time I know we talked about it. You mentioned you know they said no politics. What about you Mel Hill? What about Dan Lambert I? I was held to a standard unlike anybody else there and I didn't realize it until I look back on it and you know they talk about. Oh we warned him. We warned they warned everybody. But I was the only one held upheld the warning right and and it didn't matter I mean it's just like Oh Kurt he's a he's a right winger. He knows at Christie's bad guy that drives me nuts must drive you nuts. I was arguing with someone the other day said you know. Do you know what he does for charity work. You know how he is as a father as a husband you know any of that. Nobody re tweeted a mean. What but some guy dressed as a woman like a what you know and back to Shaughnessy? And I've argued with him about this. He literally left you off his his hall of fame ballot. Because you funny t shirt mocking journalists was funny. Essentially that right right right right. Well we live two things about the t shirt number one You know it was in bad taste but the the problem with twitter is that no one follows a the threat they just grab a post and and we'll make it out to be something it isn't that post was was posted in the middle of a commentary. In my opinion I was saying in my opinion that modern day journalism had committed. Suicide had literally Hong itself over the last couple of years because of their Desire and hatred of of president trump. you know that was it but that was lost in the in the weeds. And I know now you're let down. I don't back down. This was a t shirt that said on theory journalist you no assembly required. It's a joke about people who don't respect cheerless. Now tell me. Hey this is what do you call a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the ocean. What do you call that? That's called a good start. That's a joke about a lawyers people right. There's jokes about whatever dentists I mean so what. It's a wise crack. It's it's a joke about journalists not everyone respects journalist. So what. It's it's a Joe while the Shaughnessy San Kurt wants to hang. He wants Lynch journalists. I go no. It doesn't mean you don't want to drown lawyers either just making a joke talk about profession that you don't have a lot of respect for so what right well now trump right when they need to take him literally they do and he's speaking figuratively and vice versa. That's always been but the other big thing and and I gotTa tell you it's problem. The reason why every twenty four born under human being on in this country will be on Ritalin and adderall. Were now a one event society meaning you can do one thing in your life. It doesn't matter when you did it but if it's something the left does it like they can use it to define you know question and and that's a standard. They can't live up to themselves but they they hold everybody to that standard. I mean I I you know one of the things. He's one of probably the hardest thing for me through. All of this has been you know talking through with my kids about they see me and know me and they read the things they read and they can't put the two together like you know I say to people and it never fails. I'll tell people. Listen I'll I'll take your racist or bigot attack as long as you provide one example unquote or an act in my life that has ever been either. Don't link to an article tweeted on medium one opinion linked to a fact. It's something that I've done and it's the same thing they'll a link to an article. That has an opinion of me. They'll late to an article. That is interpreting now. The left has become great at reading our minds. You know what he meant to say was he's a racist no question or that. He wants to Lynch journalists. I always say you can call them. Whatever you call them? Bombastic or louder of noxious Saito like him. You can't say he's a bad guy a racist to beg it. I mean you know that you're making that up it's just your it's your these who's same people Jerry said about this. These are the same people that voted for me to win the four humanitarian awards. One that only two the players in baseball history of ever want and and I and I don't want us to talk about it like that because that's not why didn't stuff but if you think about this and I told I was talking to Scott about this everything they talk about me. Gammons wrote an article and wrote an article and the article. Would they talk doc about the good things that I've done factual things like they talk about. LS May talk about All these other things they talk about those things happen then when they talk about the bad stuff they talk about opinion and none of the stuff that they talk about on. The bad side is stuff you can verify its just opinion moult well I mean in which brings us to the hall of fame Which I mentioned this the other day even people who support you some of them you know reluctantly? Currently someone like Peter King had called the other day and he supports you because he doesn't think character personality should matter and you know he doesn't he think some of the things you do and say a repulsive but he supports you and then the next line is and I don't think Oj. Simpson should be kicked out of the hall of fame. Either I'm like so in one breath you you're talking about Schilling. Who happens to be you know a Republican and a Christian? I know you hate that. But in the same breath you mentioned a guy who murdered a couple of people Right then that's your. You know that your lot in life that your fate with the people. There's nothing you can do to change it but I think you're close to that day. Were you not only get the call. Get in the hall of fame where you belong. We all know that. But you get to make that speech which I can't wait. which would be awesome? But I don't know how close you track this. We've talked many times about what it means to you and you're not can right. You're not going to bow down and kiss the ring of you know Dan Shaughnessy or anyone else just to get in there. The way some people you know. They'll temper their views and they'll stay quiet until the give and you didn't do that. You haven't done that and most honest people think you should be in there already. They they understand the best postseason pitcher ever with three rings and all kinds of incredible clutch performances. But do you track it. Because there's a guy that yeah very closely this year so you looks good. You made a great point and it's one that I get offended by as well because I am now in the in. There's a trio of guys clemens bonds and May. I know you're right there with them. I know it's close. I don't know how how I'm in -cluded in that group other than you know I certainly did put the numbers up either. One of them did and I sure as hell didn't do the things exist. They did like being a Republican of being. An outspoken. Conservative is as bad if not worse than Vinci right did you. Is that bother you. Because the police on it's a guy again who tracks the voters he pulls a certain number of them. I'm all along the way and tries to gauge. Who's going to get? And he's got jeeter at one hundred percent but the latest one. He's got Larry Walker getting in and he's got you at a an assigned China closed. Its got you over eighty. But he's got bonds and clemens right around the seventy five will if if you're right there with them what if you get in with them will you you be honored or you find that a little. You know what I've said I actually Kinda. I think we've been together a couple different times when the balloting has come out and I you think I said to you before I never ever enjoyed the fact that we spend the first forty eight hours of hall of fame announcements talking about who didn't get in like the day for people that got in. Its I I look at that eats cases its own individual thing in the sense that for me. The hall of fame has chance to recognize the fact that you've been influenced and affected by hundreds if not thousands of amazing people. The famous a chance to say thank you to everybody. That made it possible for you to do what you did. I remember someone asking. You know how long it take it. A right you're the father's eulogy and I said I was writing my whole life. You know my was thinking about right at least the last my adult life what I would say and I kind of in a wrote it all down mm slowly but you know over years literally and I'm thinking if you're making a hall of fame speech which is your last real big moment up there on stage do you have in mind and what you're GONNA say already. No no I was gonNA say something about it but I go between thank you and you you know what a bunch of you know I also think about it like this if I go in. It'll be with probably the largest Yankee attendance crowds ever. Oh that's right that's right and and I will have to mention shutting up fifty five thousand people somehow somehow and But no but but I you know I again i. I don't know I just think about it as people who are every bit as morally bankrupt as as as anybody else. Yeah I mean there are wife beaters and alcohol drugs pedophile. I mean we know there are people who have children out of wedlock. You're GONNA be there. They're every bit in in many ways they were some of the worst human beings I've ever met. But for every Dan Shaughnessy or Michael Felder or Toni Basil. Roddy there's a Jayson. Stark Erkin Attempt curtsying. Guys who are just generally good people you will and so you know it you know. It's like everything else when you say the media you know. I don't mean everybody you'll be on wanted to join bill conlon in the hall of Fame Right. Yeah hey child Molester extraordinaire I mean. That's what a what a character guy that is I mean. Do you have any kept the family zone right right. That's the kind of thing like I said I've always told you that that my My mental stability is relying upon hall of fame plaque. Because some of the worst human beings I've ever met her in there right right and and there are bad people people in there and the people judging me could don't have the right to judge me as far as they could throw me but whether you get in this year next it's your what eighth time now. Try say so you'll get in. I mean there's no doubt and you'll be able to get in on your terms you'll be able to an and everyone will be on. They're wondering what's HE GONNA say they're going to. They're going to be curious will you. which way will you go? Will you be conciliatory or will you be honest conciliatory concilliatory for what I guess to say. Let's I know we didn't always get along whether it's the Yankee people or the Liberals you bet the Yankee people I gotTa Tell You Jerry the largest block of people that have come out and reached out to me and said I hate to do but now I love. You have been Yankee cents. I have gotten gotten thousands and thousands of people that have tweeted personally privately to me. Used to hate you but now I love you because I mean Anki Fan and you know what I do respect in New York and then I thought well you know people I think respect more over time is the mental toughness. Toughness the winning. When you I mean you hear it more than ever now You know obviously we're here with Tom Brady and his final days. It's just the clutch. Performance is the winning. And you forget you know the all the regular season games I'm enough you know. Just the routine stuff gets lost in. By the way I left by the wayside and people remember the big moments. Yeah they remember. You know Larry Bird for that or Jordan. Remember you know whoever Tiger Woods and the they're not gonNA remember necessarily how many wins you had or how many cy youngs By the way there were none there were none but they're gonNA remember World Series MVP BP and rings right. And that's with that you know. I mean I said when I my wife and I had a conversation station. I told you this before Nineteen ninety-two and we were talking. I just had my first year in the big leagues and I was talking about what I wanted out of my career here and I said I wanted to win the Roberto Clemente Award and I wanted when I retired as you ask any of my teammates life or death one game. Who is you want the pitch? I'd want it to be made and I worked my whole career towards that. You must love it when guys say I never liked the guy but if I have to win one game that's yeah it's it's amazing to me. Yeah Yeah I do like I mean again I I. There's a reason why why I'm one of very hugh players from the nineteen ninety-two team is still with his wife. These texters not not still with his first wife right right now but I mean it's there's there's a you know I wasn't in the clubhouse make them like me. I was as part of the team and I did the job I was being paid to do. And you can't expect to be liked by twenty four people from twenty four different backgrounds grounds every year but the fact that matter is all the things people claim about me. I've never ever and will never have a clubhouse guy cabdriver for a fan of former teammate. A coach or anybody say that I ever wasn't a good teammate. I mean you know the media thing I'll give you an example that the quote Ed Wade said you know. Every fifth days horse in the forties in between these. A Horse's asked was was ed being funny. But that's been used says something as like a rip on me and my first response honest to God who said wait. What does that weight ever done that? His critique of me would be valuable but I find that almost a compliment so it doesn't light noise being funny right because we had a very adversarial relationship because I was good enough in Philadelphia when we stunk to hold our ownership in front office accountable. And they didn't like that. Yeah Hey you have Obviously went over. You were cancelled. ESPN didn't like you politics even though you're really good at the job you're you're replaced by Jess Moran who I I mean Jessica Mendoza Jess Mendoza. Who is terrible at the job and A-rod who is not good a rod and multiple? Oh steroid user various other scandals. He's he's the toast of the town now every he's back. What's the chances that you can come back that you could do? Your old job again or is is that now. That's never that's their stuff going on That hopefully it will become public in short period of time. Let's make it public now. What do we no? I can't do that legally a real Yeah But you know they always. I always say that you know might don't always everybody's payback's a bitch but but we'll we'll see how it plays out And listen just was set in into a you know. She's very nice. There was a no win situation and I gotTa Tell You Alex I think Alex and I would have been phenomenal. Because Alex does wouldn't wouldn't have had to cover pitching and could talk about hitting and if you've ever talked to the guy about hitting he's he's a savant and he's a he's a good conversation Asian but that's just it's just a challenge. It's a challenge. And and so I thought I thought trucking our good funny But I know Oh but Dan. Shulman is ultra liberal and I don't WanNa be back anyway. Really that was he. He was one of those scenes. That just didn't let up. Let me just tell you this Jerry I. I made amends with Alex. His final season. trink training I met him in the parking lot and apologized. Yeah I did because what you do too. I read an article I why read an article in the ESPN the magazine. I actually read it A A well written article about Alex's life and it was when I was going through the thirty studio stuff and Alex I had to sit down in front of his little girls and explained he talked about how painful it was explained to them. How the the the horrible decisions he'd made in his life but it is a father? I sympathize with that and I did that. I do that with my family and my kids. You know thirty superstar. I didn't cheat or anything but it was. It was embarrassing and and I realized that I never wanted anybody to feel the way I felt in front of my kids and that all the other bullshit that that had gone on was baseball stuff between him and I and it was actually kind of funny because I I walked up to him in the parking lot in spring training at like seven thirty in the morning and I said listen. Listen he's like. Hey what's up. Whatever else I just wanted to apologize? And he's waiting because his reply was for what part. Yeah that's true you did show man. I said you know what I the things I didn't things I said I look back. I'm not problem but I don't want I never and I talked about about the family stuff and I said he was gone and goes listen. I'm just hoping you go out The way you want to go out and the chips fall. There's a good chance you're going to be on stage with at least one probably probably two of the most prominent Steroid guys ever the two best by the way will that be uncomfortable of made you know with them to know because that Broddrick I I wouldn't be on that stage if I'm on that state with our climate that that's a that's a no brainer Liz. I carried the clements flag. I was the last Guy I died on that hill. I was defending him and clubhouses long after everybody else quit. That's right. What the Hell's wrong you were you blind the things he had done and said to me lead me to believe that? There's no possible way. He could have done what they accused him of. And then when you start to see it's just over it became like the O.. J. Verdict Right. Okay yeah he was not guilty but he wasn't right eventually. Everyone just gives it up and says you know what what I was wrong. He's he's guilty. Everyone knew bonds was guilty. And you're never been friends with him. I guess you just do your thing. You're not going to be if I cheated. I think I it might be in. Why should numbers would be better? You play longer what would you I mean. I'd be close to getting in the same time. They're getting in right right right. That's that's the window. I guess it's well years and you. Just they were great at forty forty one forty two and then they put them. I mean they were in no matter. What but their in their numbers late in their career were just freaky? They were so good but the reason you weren't those will chicken Alexa Yours. They give it away your your. Yeah I know yeah I know but the fact the matter is that that I played against them and beat them and they were trading and I wasn't and you and you had your chance to testify with them against them and you didn't. Yeah and you know. It's amazing. I had people rail me for that. That's for forever. Yes and I tend to people I said listen I was. I was called the front of Congress because of a smart Aleck comment. I made in front of Tom. VERDUCI right right you know and but when you're under oath I'm not. I know I played with guys that use steroids. One hundred percent. Sure who it was I know Lenny was because he said Eddie did but I suspected a ton of people but I wasn't going to ruin anyone's life on speculation that that's that's crime crime and look back to be honest with you. We were. We had suspicions obviously about bonds and clemens but everyone wasn't certain back back then the way that right now. We're certain he'll right. We know details about claims in his trainer and bonds and his trainer. We know the facts now and McGuire are and manny and by the way Sosas not going to get close. He has no one hundred percent lock hall of fame numbers. Yeah but he's so he's kept out okay but bonds and clemens. They're guilty but they're going to go in. I don't I don't get the double standard. Well you know what I I WANNA do. I WANNA find out out if you look at the bonds and clemens voting there they have a different number of votes. I'm very curious to know how many people that voted voted for bonds. That didn't vote for clements. Right the white. It's a good question because they one percentage point apart and the latest poll has gone getting in and clements just short. We would be wild. If didn't that that General Lee means they're neither of them GONNA make because I've in in the eight gears of the balloting I know the site. You're but I'm on that every now and then as well the number your your percentages you just go down all right with the uncounted votes. Those guys who don't talk to the pollster like kind of like trump gins. They don't tell you apples exactly right and I think if I'm you a little wary of it because Larry Walker's numbers are outrageous. He's got him going up like thirty forty points I I love Larry Larry Walker. It was a nice guy to me which is important when you're looking at the hall of fame but I'm not sure he's an eighty something eighty six eighty seven percent guy. Yeah and I told you before I mean. I think it's a one and done here. The holiday Marie not right. It is bizarre. How much changes how much it fluctuates? I mean Jim. Rice started that like I think in the teens and few years later he's over seventy five hundred hundred right. What changed? I don't know but I I know that I struck anybody Out in the last eight years and I'm getting more and more support. Well hopefully when you find out January what do you remember the twenty-first on Mlb Network at six PM. We're going to have you on the twenty second on the Gerry Callahan. PODCAST at work. Will that work good. We're not going to see you back the ESPN booth arguing to see you somehow. Getting in your revenge I liked it. That's a great tease. Payback is a bitch. I look forward to seeing you do that hearing all about it. Kurt Hey listen. I'm proud and I'm one hundred percent percent behind what you're doing. I love what you're doin' call anytime I will do that. Thanks and all right. We'll have you on again. Thank you take Care Curt Schilling Future Get your hall of Famer victim of the cancel culture and friend of the show can be a friend of the GDP friend of GCP if we could you know nail him down and get him in here early. In the morning we could have won regularly. We'll try. We'll try but I'm happy for him. You know why he's GonNa get in the hall of fame his way you know. He's way a Lotta guys. They start playing the game. They become a little nicer to the media. They you know they become a little more likable lovable and they kind of sneak over the threshold shillings kind of become become more stubborn bombastic and yet I think people are feeling like they got a focus on the player and not the person and they're looking at those postseason the numbers in there saying that is a hall of Famer anyway thanks to curt schilling for joining us. This is the Gerry Callahan. podcast thanks to shake concrete. Thanks to ally paving thanks to the legacy club. Thanks to Pete Guston and and Dave colony thanks to you.

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The White and Nerdy Edition

Hit Parade | Music History and Music Trivia

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The White and Nerdy Edition

"Welcome to hip hop podcast of pop chart history from slate magazine about the hits from coast to coast. I'm Chris Landfill Chart Analyst pop critic and writer of slates wise. The Song Number One series on today's show last month in our December Twenty nineteen episode of Hip Parade. I talked about the improbable smash that was sitting on top of billboard's hot one hundred Mariah Carey's holiday classic all. I want for Christmas. Is You the first Christmas Song to top. Billboard's hot one hundred in sixty one years is that compelled us to play you the prior Christmas song to hit number one which reached the top all the way back in nineteen fifty eight As I noted David Saville's the chipmunk Song is less a Christmas song then then a novelty record it was still on the hot one hundred for weeks into nineteen fifty-nine long after the holidays were over and hand in a way. This wasn't surprising because in the early rock era novelty records were chart dominators. ooh This was the golden era for goofy hits a time when comical records would not only make the hot one hundred regularly really but quite frequently top chart jungle limbs off a tree in a time when live comics and veteran standups won grammys sold piles of albums and even got on the radio radio. Hello Hello Fata. And while the so-called golden age of novelty songs was the nineteen fifties is and sixties right through the seventies novelty and comedy songs did serious chart business the thing about novelty records though what distinguishes them from Christmas songs is they are a hard hard way to sustain a career sure. Some novelty hits our holiday related. which does make them? perennials graveyards but most novelty hits by their very nature are flashes in the Pan meant went to capture a specific cultural moment. That's what makes the one major ager novelty artist who broke in the nineteen eighties. The one whose name now leaps immediately to most Americans minds when they hear the phrase the Novelty Song so exceptional. He pulled it off. He built a decades long career out of being a goofball so before we talk about the man who actually called all himself weird I will explain how the charts both helped him and made his job so challenging thus making his this chart topping success that much more amazing you might say the magic ingredient was Hokka Pie and as we enter the twenty twenties. We'll even talk about how this accordion in playing national treasure could come back and command the hit parade again more than four decades after he started. And that's where your hit parade marches today. The week ending October October. Twenty first two thousand six. When Weird Al Yankovic White and nerdy reached number nine on billboard's hot one hundred? It was AL's first top ten hit in a multi decade career and the start of a new age for novelty songs on the charts the forty outside before we get there. Let's talk about the time. Be a before al.. The golden age of the novelty over breakfast sandwich as with my sleep day. This is often the moment in hit parade episode where I offer provisos and definitions and for this this episode. We have a real head scratcher. What exactly is a novelty record? Who Decides the recording artist? Just the music industry the public in a way they all do because novelty is in the eye ear and funny bone one of the beholder for example consider this classic by R. and B. Group. The coasters Yucky. Yeah yeah a number one hit in nineteen fifty eight written and produced by Jerry. Lieber and Mike Stolen both that legendary. Songwriting duo and the coasters are in the rock and Roll Hall of fame and the Song is hilarious. A series of drill sergeant commands by a comically pissed off parent hereon at a surly fifties teenager. Okay but is Yacky Yak a novelty record Joel. Whitbourne Whitbourne the authoritative chart statistician who publishes Books Tracking Billboard Hits Tag these socially satirical Jaki Yak Anomaly saw however whip burned does claim that the coasters follow-up hit also written by Lieber installer was a novelty record the the Equality Funny Charlie Brown a number two hit in nineteen fifty nine. Is this song a novelty because it name checks a comic strip character. Music scholar Steve. We've often in his book. The golden age of novelty songs includes both Jaki Yak and Charlie Brown in his study of the Genre congre which he says has a proud tradition. and that's another thing. Is it even insulting to call record a novelty because is both Jaki Yak and Charlie Brown are pretty great. propulsed live witty clever. How we could do this all day in this episode talk about the mysterious distinctions between novelty and normal hits? Is this number. One hit from the eighties by Austrian singer Falco a novelty or a sly mash up of of the classical figure. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and the then new musical idiom of rap speaking of rap. What about vis nine thousand nine hundred ninety two number one smash by Sir Mix a lot? Oh my God becky. We devoted a large chunk of our nineties rap episode of Hip Parade to baby. Got Back. Because it's an important song long for the emergence of hip hop on the charts in that decade but it starts with a spoken word comedy bid and the whole song is a laugh riot and yet few tag baby got back a novelty one. More comparison powers in the sixties this song by Australian Rolf Harris Timea Kangaroo down sport a number three. US Hit in one thousand. Nine hundred sixty three was regarded as culturally. Specific novelty. Hit a borderline offensive ditty that trafficked in Australian stereotypes stereotypes for Non Australians amusement. The NAB downs time down but and twenty years later this nineteen eighty three men at work number one hit trafficked in many of the same snarky Australian troops but down under was regarded as a Whimsical pop song and a new wave. Classic while Rolf Harris's Alcee satirizing hit is called a novelty men at work's is not about. My point is not to come up with a definitive answer sir to what a novelty record is rather. I want to emphasize that the border between so-called serious hits and novelties is thin indeed indeed novelty may be like pornography to paraphrase a supreme court justice. You know it when you hear it. Several artists we will discuss have walked that line throughout their careers. In fact dating back to the days of Tin Pan Alley Novelty songs were such a fixture on the hit parade that some of the most celebrated singers found them irresistible vehicles for getting on the radio. Much is that Again the window though. That's traditional pop vocalist Patti page with the nineteen fifty. Three number one hit. How much is that Doggie in the window? Window page recorded all sorts of songs and scored hits with everything from the classic Tennessee Waltz to Allegheny Moon but Doggie in the window. Complete with barking. Sounds one of her biggest hit is whimsical. If not exactly the funny. But it was part of a long tradition of comical or quirky records that were hits for everyone from Al Jolson to Tex Williams. It was somewhat rarer for a recording artists to focus exclusively on comedy records but Spike Jones the nineteen forties and fifties performer not to be confused with the Modern Day. Film director was a pioneer of the novelty form. Build up all day for the race. Food town is favored today assaulted in their dog. Biscuit is Rita one safety has been unscratched. Spike Jones was not only a bandleader and host of a TV variety show he was a creator and altar of comical recordings. His songs could be heard as a satire of the big band era replacing musical notes with obnoxious clatter in Jones's hands a piece of music as grand as Rossini's William Tell overture would turn utterly madcap instruments is competing with noisemakers Spike Jones and his city slickers even scored a holiday holiday perennial and novelty standard with his nineteen forty nine number. One hit all I want for. Christmas is my two front teeth for Christmas. With his exposure boh-sia in a range of Media Spike Jones would serve as an inspiration to generations of novelty recording artists including weird Al Yankovic Mlkadic but Spike Jones hits were largely confined to the pre rock era. Of course rock and roll had its own Manic Energy Ritchie that lent itself to laughs and it is remarkable. How many early rock and roll hits can be read? As basically comical the big boppers chantilly lace this is tagged by Joel whipper and other rock historians as a novelty record even as he is also regarded as a rockabilly pioneer. The same goes for multi. Genre singer Bobby Darin who broke as a rock and roller with the KITSCHY. Catchy splish splash it and later in the decade Rock Pioneer Bo Diddley scored believe it or not his only top forty pop hit with same man. A single that is essentially mostly dialogue as is to shit talking friends. Rank on each other over a beat black rock and roll was also the Meta text for another form of parody. Hit the so-called break in record invented by producer Dickie Goodman his nineteen fifty-six hit with partner. Bill Buchanan the flying saucer. Reinvented Orson Jason Wells. War of the worlds as a spoken word news broadcast punctuated by snippets of then current rock and roll hits Goodman failed to get permission. For any of the song samples it was arguably the rock. Era's first mix tape mash offramp. I Ju- In general comedy records were a Ripe Forum for experimentation as we discussed in last month's hit parade eventual chipmunks monks creator David Seville helped refine the art of sped up recording with his nineteen fifty eight number. One hit the witch doctor. The doctor with doctor he totally what he says and weeks later the high pitched recording trick was replicated by another chart topper shove willies. The purple people eater. There's two purple. Only maybe address you. Your sound was novelty. Records were so omnipresent in nineteen fifty eight that Willie's hit even included a reference to another comical smash Willie's backup singers snuck in reference to short shorts a song going by the royal teens. That had peaked at number three just weeks earlier. These novelty records were in dialogue with each other. Sometimes openly Joe South south a young singer who a decade later would win the song of the year. Grammy for Games. People play scored his first chart hit in the summer of nineteen fifty eight with the mash up record. The Purple People Eater meets the witch doctor. I got real strange. Found people eater and my practice. I saw the witch doctor Seton by his side world witchdoctor in the start of the sixties novelty records. Were topping the hot one hundred on the regular nineteen sixty alone. had three chart topping topping novelty hits and sonically. They were all over the map. Whether it was Brian Hyland's Chirpy owed to a tiny bathing suit very very risque by nineteen sixty standards or four a lurching party record about a caveman named alleyoop recorded by a fictional one off Los Angeles band who call themselves the Hollywood Hollywood argyle's or the half spoken word. Mister custer her a photo lament by a soldier in eighteen seventy six pleading with his general not to send him into the battle of the little bighorn. The track doc was fronted by a man named Larry Verne. Who'd never sung in his life but had a memorable southern drawl of these artists? Only Brian Hyland of itsy-bitsy teeny weeny in Yellow Polka dot. Bikini fame went on to further recording success and that was his last novelty hit. However the producer of the Hollywood argyle's Gary Paxton would produce an even bigger novelty smash two years later Bobby Pickett's Halloween perennial slash instructional dance record? The Monster Mash a number one in October. One thousand nine hundred sixty two graveyards on slow. It's generally novelty alty. Records were a producer's medium and the artists were incidental. The one thousand nine hundred sixty one number. One mother-in-law A CLASSIC OF NEW ORLEANS R&B and hilarious plant about a meddling maternal figure was the first big hit for legendary writer and producer Alan to song as for the lead artist of mother-in-law New Orleans singer Ernie Quedo it was his only top forty. Hit in me on top of all of these musical novelties. The early sixties was a boom time for straight up comedy recordings by stand up and nightclub performers performers like Bob Bob Newhart yes that Bob Newhart. The Future TV legend was I kid you not a comedy. LP selling Titan in the early sixties new hearts nineteen sixty album the button down mind of Bob newhart topped the billboard album chart for fourteen weeks and one thousand nine hundred sixty one grammy for album of the year offense where you're going with Mr Adams junk for my car. Seven seventy five. And where was that your driveway. Two years later that same grammy was won by another spoken word comedy. LP The first. I family a blockbuster album by comedian and John F. Kennedy impersonator meter that you didn't touch phthalate either routine tonight or at dinner last night would you tell us. Please let me say this about that now. Number one in my opinion the fault does not lie as much with the salad as she does with the addressing being used had a time in the early sixties when the long playing thirty three and a third. RPM album was only beginning going to overtake the forty five RPM single live comedy in front of an audience proved a durable seller of LP records and if a live comedian could tell jokes while singing all the better Harvey CPAP he works for Ib am he went to. Mit God is hd former TV producer. Allan Sherman made a bigger name for himself in writing comic parodies of well known public domain songs with goofy lyrics not unlike Spike Jones a decade earlier Sherman scored three number one. LP's filled with Borscht belt style parody songs in nineteen sixty two and sixty three back. Toback toback he even scored a number two single in the summer of sixty three with his dance of the hours parody about a boy riding home from summer. Camp Hello Mudehwe hello fodder hello fodder here. I am at Camp Granada very entertaining. And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining in a more area Vein Piano playing college professor. Tom Lehrer satirized. The fears and foibles of Cold War Era Society -ociety with Jaunty Cole. Porter like melodies visit American city. You will find it very pretty just two things which you must be aware. Don't drink the water and don't breathe the air but after a half decade of performing his original ditties in front of audiences both in clubs and on television laborers nineteen sixty five album. That was the year that was cracked the billboard the top twenty and eventually went gold by the late sixty S. After the British invasion and Hippie rock began to take over the charts the line between novelty records and rock hits became blurry some novelty hits still read as pure comedy singer Songwriter. Jerry Samuels while under the influence of psychedelics. wrote a perverse song about going mad complete with chipmunk like like sped up vocals released under the moniker Napoleon the fourteenth. They're coming to take me away. Ha Ha reached number three in the summer of one thousand nine hundred. Sixty six coming to take me away. Ha The coming to take me away Ho to the funny farm where life is is beautiful all the time and be happy to say those nice young men in their. Interestingly several listeners noticed in in one thousand nine hundred sixty six that the Napoleon the fourteenth zone featured the same marching drumbeat. As a very recent Bob Dylan stoner anthem. Rainy Day women number twelve thirty five live had reached number two on the charts just weeks earlier in the spring of sixty six. Of course this being Dylan. no-one considered hit a novelty. There was a similarly thin line between novelty and rock credibility on snoopy versus the Red Baron and the breakthrough hit for Florida banned the Royal Guardsmen there whimsical. Oh my gosh to Charles Schulz's comic strip. Canine reached number are two in early. Nineteen sixty seven by the way the second number two hit named for a peanuts character after the coasters one thousand nine hundred fifty nine hit curly brown challenge. They got a if that little rock breakdown sounded familiar. It's because the royal guardsman's snoopy included an intentionally obvious he s allusion to the McCoy's nineteen sixty five number. One hit hang on snoopy indeed throughout the PSYCHEDELIC era. The novelty status of hit records was debatable. especially when sixties pop took on the sounds of Music Hall and Vaudeville Novelty Song Scholar. Steve Often USC. It claims that the two number one hits by Herman's hermits both juvenile revivals of Music Hall. DITTIES are in essence novelty realty records. Mrs Brown you've got a lovely daughter uh-huh and I'm entry. Excuse me Henry. The Eighth I am saves the bust a year later British novelty act the new Vaudeville band scored their only chart topping hit winchester cathedral with an old timey megaphone like the again. None of these trippy. Hits was tagged a novelty by the music business but was the difference between these singles and the more outlandish knowingly tweeden novelty hit tiptoe through the tulips with me by nineteen eighteen sixty eight ukulele playing falsetto singing. Tiny tim the with tiny Tim. Aw was such a pop culture sensation in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight and sixty nine his televised marriage to Miss Vicki on the tonight show drew tens Hinz of millions of viewers that his single hit the top twenty and his album reached the top ten and rode the charts for more than half a year on the countryside of the radio. Dial Johnny cash new the power of a novelty song. He recorded a stem winding story story song written by cartoonist and Songwriter Shel Silverstein called a boy named sue and he took it to number two on the hot one hundred in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine his biggest ever pop hit a cash never took himself too seriously deep into the seventies. He scored his biggest country number one of the decade gate and his last pop. Top forty hit with tall tale one piece at a time a novelty record about a GM plant worker building his his own Cadillac by smuggling home auto parts from his job. On time. You lets it and in the early seventies another rock. Pioneer Chuck Berry scored. His is only number one with the lewd novelty. My Dingley recorded live in front of a British audience who lustily sang by the seventy s novelty records were a big enough genre to inspire their own. Radio program created by a man born Barry Hansen Johnson. Who redubbed himself doctor? demento doctor Demento where on the radio line up your Radio Westwood. One presents the Dr Phil Show to launched at a Pasadena radio station and eventually syndicated at dozens of stations nationwide. The doctor Demento show would play the kind kind of crazy ephemera too weird for the top forty. The doctor Demento show would prove a formative influence on a generation of novelty performance. In later years Hansen would would claim that he launched the show because novelty records. were starting to disappear from the radio. Airwaves after rock turned more serious. In in the late sixties airplay was indeed often the limiting factor with funny or novelty records. The amusement would become less amusing amid the repetition of top forty radio rotation but truth be told novelty records could still become hits in the seventies seventies. One musician even spent the decade successfully walking the line between serious and silly ray. Stevens was the irrepressible energizer. Bunny of novelty hit makers risky had been knocking around the music industry. Since the early sixties he'd even scored a couple of top forty novelty hits early in the decade like a half the Arab but Stevens stepped up his game toward the end of the sixties guitar and Ode to a Loincloth. Clad rock and roller was his first gold. Single in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine during the sixties Stevens had on occasion tried his hand at singles scoring minor hits with tracks like Sunday morning coming down which was later a country hit for Johnny cash. But it wasn't until the seventies that Ray Stevens his career took an unexpectedly ernest turn back on the nineteen seventy number. One hit everything is beautiful. Ray Stevens turned kitsch in to cancel. The single was received as a straight faced inspirational song. Complete with a children's chorus an anthem of tolerance. That was even played in churches. Virtuous everything is beautiful. One grammys in both the pop and inspirational categories in nineteen seventy one and it was played on easy listening and even country stations. But Stevens couldn't stay in in this lane by the mid Seventies. He put his tongue firmly back in his cheek. In nineteen seventy four Stevens jumped on a fad sweeping the nation. And the World Streak Ed Eh. From sporting events to universities and even the Academy Awards Pranksters were sprinting naked in public like never before never never one to pass up a whimsical trend. Ray Stevens wrote and recorded the streak which topped both the US and UK charts in the Sprang of seventy four. It even reached number three on the American country chart pointing the direction. That Stevens career was headed on the north by the end of the decade Stevenson's brand of humor has been most warmly embraced by country audiences and he began aiming his novelty tracks. Like the nineteen eighty-one hit shriner's convention directly at country. Radio Stevens is politics also turned more conservative. Later decades would find him scoring country. Hits with the likes of Osama Yo Mama and Caribou Barbie however nineteen nineteen seventy four is the streak remains Ray Stevens his biggest ever hit but Ray Stevens remained the exception a mostly novelty avalon. hitmaker with more than one hit to doctor demento point but the seventies novelty singles were largely one offs C. See W McCall. Another country pop. Crossover artist who likes. Stevens tried to build a career out of novelty hits managed one on chart topping smash in the winter of one thousand nine hundred seventy six that capitalized on the growing fad of citizens band or CB radio radio the trucker anthem convoy CW. McCall and Iowa singer who invented his truck driver persona for an advertising campaign and wound ended up assuming it for decades never reached the top forty again. The seventies were a kitschy decade in general and like Ray a Stevens a song about streaking or C. W McCall Song about. CB radio's no cultural trend. Escaped novelty hit status Addis Dickie Goodman who in the fifties had invented these so-called breaking record scored another such smash in nineteen seventy five breath with the number four hit Mr Jaws a combination spoken word and pop song satire of Steven Spielberg's Blockbuster Shark Doc. Movie we are here on the beach where a giant shark has just eaten a girl swimmer. Well Mr Jaws how was it and what what did you say when you grabbed her. No Shock Sir. Stupid and in one thousand nine hundred seventy six radio. Dj Rick Dees. He's took a break from his day job to satirize disco music with Disco Duck. A number one hit that would make a cameo appearance in the movie Saturday night fever a year later speaking of media personalities Moonlighting from their jobs. I would be remiss if I left the seventies without talking about the recording success success of. TV's Saturday night live SNL's also. I five years are renowned for several reasons including reinventing TV sketch comedy for a new generation and introducing a new wave of comic performers like Chevy Chase Gilda radner and Bill Murray but one underrated aspect of Saturday. Night live launch was its impact on the music business of course each episode featured a musical performer. which by itself helped break various artists lists but the SNL cast members the so-called not ready for primetime players were also music Dabbler who's dabbling dowling's a lot of records? The Blues Brothers were an invention of SNL CAST members. John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd originally finally devised as a warm up act for SNL's Studio Audience Belushi and Aykroyd performances as Jake and elwood blues. Complete with kitschy fifties style suits and Fidora's eventually made the live. TV show itself. Then with the help. Hope of future David Letterman bandleader Paul. Shaffer Belushi and Aykroyd assembled an actual blues brothers band with legendary aside men from booker t and the M Jeez and their album briefcase full of blues was a no kidding number one LP on the billboard album chart it even spun off top forty hits like they're straight faced cover of Salmon Dave's soul man and their novelty novelty hit rubber biscuit on and what's more in January January one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. The week briefcase full of blues broke into the album charts top three. It was sitting next to another LP by by a Saturday night live regular. Old Steve Martin was never an official. SNL CAST member but he was the show's most frequent guest and his repeat appearances. Princes made him a comedy Megastar Martin's Lp a wild and crazy guy was mostly a standup album recorded. Live live in front of crowds in San Francisco and Denver but it closed with a novelty track. Martin wrote for and first performed on Saturday night live King Tut celebrated and satirized Egyptian Pharaoh. Tutankhamun whose remains toward American museums. In one thousand nine hundred seventy eight and were a cultural blockbuster. Released as a single in seventy eight Steve Martin's King Tut made the hot one hundred's top twenty and it pushed Martin's a wild and crazy guy. LP to number two on the charts and double platinum entering the nineteen eighties. Then novelty records were not exactly scarce and some were even hits but they were a tough way to build a sustained career career. Tightening radio formats meant that most stations would not play comical records in regular all day rotation especially after after the launch of FM radios so called morning. Zoo programs these madcap morning shows offered a venue for novelty singles but they might be the only time. Such songs would be played so while established performers like Frank. ZAPPA could score one off. Novelty hits like nineteen eighty-two Valley girl a number thirty to hit recorded with his daughter Moon Unit or pop superstar Rick Springfield could crack the top thirty with the song. Long Bruce a novelty hit about how Mr Springfields fans confused him with Mr Springsteen. It was understood that these songs were never going to receive heavy radio rotation and for performer. Who specialized in novelty hits like? Chicago's jump in the Saddle Apple. Curly the time in the spotlight was brief. Jump in the saddle smash the curly shuffle sold well enough to reach number fifteen gene in early one thousand nine hundred eighty four but again. It's radio spins were largely confined to morning and drive time. Hours and jump in the saddle title never cracked the hot one hundred again. Doctor DEMENTO had a point novelty hits even when they found an audience. We're now no longer anger. Radio hits it was around this time that a young protege of Doctor Demento 's broke on the charts a novelty recording artists. Who would go on to build the most enduring career in comical Nicole musically when we come back how AL became weird in the summer of Nineteen nineteen seventy-nine nineteen year old? Alford Yankovic a student at California Polytechnic State. University in San Luis Obispo California. Nia noticed that there was this punchy song dominating the radio it was my Sharona. The atop hit of one thousand nine hundred seventy nine recorded by new wave rock band the knack and one thing owl knew right away this would be a funny any song to parody. How Yankovic had already spent years listening to the doctor Demento show and home recording his own comical the songs played on accordion? Al Had even passed a tape of some of his songs to Demento when the radio host visited Al's high school all in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy six DEMENTO played a couple of AL songs on the show now at CAL poly Yankovic took his accordion into into a bathroom across from the college radio station and recorded his own version of the tax hit Hungary. One hungry one. I had with him my Bologna Ano- marsh to lunch. Meat would not only launch Al Yank vicks recording career. It typified several royal trends for him for one thing. It was a smash on the doctor. DEMENTO show demento claimed my below was his most requested song of Nineteen Nineteen seventy-nine for another thing als- parody charmed the artist behind the original song. Doug Feiger lead singer of of the neck found out about my Bolognia expressed his appreciation for the flattering Omar and helped. I'll get it released on the next own label people capitol records and it was on that forty five actual label that Al formerly debuted his full performing me. Weird Weird Al Yankovic. A moniker given to him by fellow CAL poly students a couple of years earlier by nineteen eighty. Allie was a star on the doctor Demento show and when he appeared as a guest on the program late that year he came ready to record a follow follow up to my Bologna and had even selected his next hit song parody and another one. The Queen's another one bites the dust was rising to number one on the hot one hundred in the fall of nineteen eighty just cost as al appeared on the Demento show accompanied only by his accordion and the pounding of self styled drummer. Jon Bermuda Mute Schwartz on Al's accordion case Yankovic recorded another one rides. The bus live in Doctor Demento studio media it released on former disco label. Tk records another one rides. The bus became weird Al's first billboard hit reaching a number one hundred and four on the magazine's bubbling under the hot one hundred chart in March of nineteen eighty one. The song was popular enough enough. That al was invited by late night TV host. Tom Snyder to perform another one. Rides the bus on his NBC program the the Tomorrow Show Weird. Al Yankovic I became known for his parodies of Popular Rock Tunes in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy nine with parody song done by the next which was called Misha Aroma and weird. Al Knew how to present himself off on television with his shaggy hair and Frank Zappa like mustache and his rabid rock and roll attack on the Accordion on rock instrument and here was a performer. who had seemingly learned from every novelty act that had come to four from Spike Jones and Allan Sherman? The wit of of combining a familiar melody with unexpected lyrics from Shel Silverstein. How to build a whimsical song like a story from Tom? Lehrer are how to make parody song lyrics not only funny but sharply phrased all of these skills including the visual would come in handy very very soon. It should be noted that weird. AL's initial breakthrough via the DEMENTO show predated the nineteen eighty-one launch of MTV. But once that video channel took off and popularized the music video in America the kinds of new wave songs that became hits lent themselves yourselves to parody and Allie Yankovic had a great year for hit songs with both comic and visual potential. Joan Jett and the black hearts cover of the Arrows I love rock and roll was a number one smash in the spring of one thousand nine hundred eighty two and it lent itself to another weird Al Food Related Parity already I love rocky road helped get out a permanent signing to a label Scotti brothers records and it spawned one of his earliest music videos in which rich a leather clad al trying to look as bad as as Joan Jett herself makes a grand entrance in an ice cream parlor and demands his favorite flavor later in nineteen eighty-two another new wave chart topper would inspire another TV friendly parody. Mickey was a hit largely fuelled by MTV ATV a song that singer choreographer and video artist Toni. Basil routes specifically to accompany her clip of a drill team of cheerleaders. You leaders it reached number one on the hot one hundred in late. Nineteen eighty two and in weird. AL's hands off. Aw I knew blow. It became an Omarosa Komo. TV's I love Lucy with future simpsons voice actress Tress McNeil playing the part of Lucille Ball and weird al.. Oh doing his best Ricky Ricardo. The video shot mostly in black and white presented a madcap but letter perfect parody of the Lucy show and went into regular rotation on MTV. This exposure finally got out onto the hot one hundred itself. Not just the bubbling under Chart Ricky reached number sixty three in the spring of Nineteen eighty-three less than six months after Toni Basil's original Mickey had topped the chart. A follow up single release of I love rocky road also charted in billboard but missed the hot one hundred bubbling under at number one. Oh six this mixed chart. Performance reflected the specific challenge facing weird Al in the early eighties. AL's skill was parodying being songs that were very recent hits trading on their familiarity and adding not only comical lyrics but hilarious. MTV friendly videos news but even following up hits as big as Joan. Jett's and Toni Basil's in an era of regimented. Top Forty Radio Radio playlists a weird AL parody would have to be truly enormous to make the upper reaches of the hot one hundred remember. You're also that in the seventies what got songs like the streak and convoy to number one was latching onto a major trend or fat in short our would have to parody a positively massive cultural phenomenon to break into the top forty and as one thousand nine hundred eighty three turned to eighty four. That's exactly what he did. Yeah well don't general. That are starting up Pan Weird Al targeted the biggest pop sensation on the planet with eat it a parody of Michael Jackson's beat read it a number one hit in the spring of nineteen eighty-three taken from Jackson's all time bestselling album thriller eat. It was recorded and released. When Jackson Mania was at its absolute apex? It should also be noted that as per his usual policy our reached Out to Jackson himself to secure his approval parodies are protected in US law as fair use but AL insists on receiving leaving the original acts blessing to ensure there are no misunderstandings and to ease the process of apportioning royalties on songs. Owl did not originally right like Doug Feiger of the neck. Most artists are flattered by a weird AL parody but Michael Jackson's seal of approval in one thousand nine hundred. Eighty four proved invaluable. That's because weird Al Not only parodied the song for the first time he parodied and original songs. Video shot for shot shot the edict clip recreated Jackson's iconic beat it video including its warring west side story like gangs and avenue included some dancers from Jackson's original video on MTV it was a smash and on the radio. A weird Al hit was finally too big to ignore Edith reached number twelve on the hot one hundred and went gold because the hot one hundred averages both both sales and airplay those gold record sales helped overcome the handicap novelty songs have on the radio but even on the airwaves wave's eat it received considerable rotations at the height of Jackson Mania. Thank Edith was the lead single on the album weird Al Yankovic in Three D. AL's first LP appea- to crack the top forty like the single. It was certified gold the week in April nineteen eighty-four that it reached its peak of number seventeen seventeen on the album chart in Three D.. Was One position higher than the police's blockbuster nineteen eighty three album. Synchronicity which was ironic because als next single was a parody of the police hit from that album king of pain transformed by owl into the sales. Pitch of a proprietor of cowhide king of Suede reached number sixty two in May of eighty four and it was immediately followed by another three d hit that like als earlier single. Ricky doubled as a throwback to the early television era. I'll turn the greg hin bands. Nineteen eighty-three number two hit jeopardy into I lost on jeopardy Pity and to the TV game show notably our recorded the song after the original NBC version of jeopardy hosted by Art Fleming. Fleming was on a long hiatus. Al Got The show's original announcer don. Pardo who also served as the announcer for Saturday night. Live to record a hilarious spoken word. Interlude calling al a complete loser and let me tell you what you didn't win a twenty volumes of the encyclopedia tonight. Okay so turtle wax your supply of the San Francisco drink. But that's not all Don Pardo also appeared in the I lost on jeopardy music video which featured additional cameos from Art Fleming Doctor Demento and even original songwriter. Greg Kent The clip was a smash on MTV and other televised video shows but the song only made it into number eighty one on the hot one hundred in the summer of Nineteen eighty-four the single's release preceded the return of the game show in a new new syndicated forum hosted by Alex Trebek's by just a couple of months in short just months after the success of eat it L. L. was back to peaking in the lower half of the hot one hundred. In fact eat it would be AL's last top forty hit of the nineteen eighties in part. Of course the radio bias against novelty songs was to blame but also weird Al was benefiting in different ways increasingly increasingly. His fan base was springing for his albums not his singles so even when he served up a parody of dominant song like his one. Thousand nine hundred five reboot of Madonna's chart topper like virgin gave. The album did better than the single like a surgeon. Just missed the top forty peaking at number forty seven but it's album dare to be stupid was gold. Within six months Al fans were coming to appreciate not only his parodies of big hit hit singles but his deep cuts these included his so-called style parodies like als devaux Maggi dare to be stupid a track. That doesn't evoke any specific devo song as well as his albums Polka medleys in which Al Ingeniously Ingeniously mashes up. Accordion covers of more than a dozen hit songs in three to five minutes with beer. Garden worthy arrangements generally as long as a weird album contained at least one parody of a chart topping song the disk could be relied upon to go gold in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight one year after Michael Jackson returned with the song. Bad Al once again. parodied both the song and the video with fat. The single only reached number ninety nine but als. LP even worse hit the top thirty and went gold. Weird Al's mixed chart success in the late eighties had to be considered against the backdrop of of novelty recording in general very few novelty singles. Besides als were hits at all at least the one's labeled as such coach the eighties rise of a new genre hip hop lent itself perfectly to parody. In fact to digress for a moment the history wrap from Rapper's delight to baby got back is littered with songs that skirt the line of novelty many wraps formative tracks the built as de facto comedy records including Doug e fresh and slick Rick's seminal show. They don't they never right. That's not come on Biz. Marquees top ten hit just a friend and the deliberately wacky eighty instructional dance single the Humpty dance by digital underground a group that by the way would later spawn the Solo career of to picture core. None of these rap classics was officially tagged as a novelty track. Joel Whitbourne only tags. The show as a novelty and that status is debatable. dateable any actual rapper. Trying to get over would avoid being perceived as a joke. Meanwhile numerous comedians tried to record deliberate rap parodies and none was a major chart. Success from Rodney Dangerfield go to Eddie Murphy who issued a low charting rap parody before switching to straight faced. I pop music but but me to a John Wayne imitator who called himself the rapin Duke. His self titled Minor Hit in one thousand. Nine hundred five live was legendary enough on hip hop radio to later. Be Name checked by the notorious B. I G so you think your bed with your raffle. I'll tell ya pilgrim. I started to cry when you were in diapers and wedding the sheets. I was at the on Rosa wrapping to the DA. The the rise of hair metal and hard rock in the late eighties and early nineties would also seem ripe for parody. Legitimate hits by the likes of poison poison and Motley. crue flirted with comedy but again the need for these rockers to appear hardcore kept them from producing out and out novelty holte singles. Only one hard rock act really attempted pure novelty single. The metal grunge hybrid band Green Jelly with therre thrashing fairy Tale Three Little Pigs. A top twenty single in early nineteen ninety-three that got little radio airplay but sold a half half a million copies by the early nineties. Weird owl was himself trying to regroup and hard rock would be the ticket to his comeback. At the end of the eighties. He'd made a detour are into Hollywood. That proved momentarily fatal to his career. His nineteen eighty nine film. You H F written by and starring. Al All was hyped by Orion pictures as a potential summer blockbuster but it flopped at the box office in a movie season dominated by smashes like like Batman and Indiana Jones. So it had been nearly four years since weird Al had issued a regular studio album and the UHF UHF's soundtrack had underperformed on the charts. I'll briefly considered again. Parodying Michael Jackson who was back with a nineteen ninety ninety one album but he didn't want to deepen his reputation as primarily a Jackson Paradis but Jackson's new album was competing on the charts with a completely different kind of act and it gave weird Al a truly inspired Super Meta idea the breakthrough uh of Nevada on the charts was a seminal moment in nineties rock. But what weird AL keyed in on in their breakthrough hit. Smells like Teen Spirit. Was Kurt Cobain's elliptical at times indecipherable lyrics. So after getting permission from a very flattered cobaine AL proceeded to do a Nirvana parody about Nirvana released in the spring of one thousand nine hundred ninety two just weeks after smells like Teen Spirit had peaked. The hot one hundred smells like Nirvana returned. Weird out to the top forty for the first time since eat it in one thousand nine hundred eighty four in fat what. All's Nirvana parody climbed the charts so fast when it peaked at number thirty five it left chew spots over. Come as you are Nirvana's vonnas own follow up. Hit smells like Nirvana gave weird Al a new lease on chart life and another wave of young fans. Chance the decade of GRUNGE and Gangsta rap would be creatively fruitful for al who got a lot of mileage poking fun at the self. Oh F- seriousness of these Rhonda's whether he was puncturing a new generation of glowering rockets on his alternative Polka it or re-booting Coolio Smash Gangster's Paradise Paradise as Amish Paradise been milking cow. Even things that my mind is gone. I'm a man in a tale that could only be told in. The nineties. coolio was so protective of his reputation. That AL had trouble getting the rappers. Permission to remake. The song coolio sounded genuinely pissed. At ow for deflating his street cred. Ah I didn't I didn't give it any sanction. You know I think it was too serious to any like. It was beating a contrite weird. AL apologized to COOLIO AL recorded. Amish Paradise Thinking Kuo's management had signed off and they had at squashed the beef by nineteen ninety six by the end of the nineties. Weird Al's albums were selling as well as ever. Nineteen ninety. Nine's running with scissors went gold and eventually platinum fueled by owls star Wars Omar set to the tune of Don McLean's American Pie. It was called the saga begins. We've done this homerun but once again al found himself out of favour on the song charts. The saga begins didn't even appear on the hot one hundred entering the twenty first century between his sellout live shows and his strong album sales weird al contented himself with what was already one of the longest lasting and strongest selling careers in novelty music history but as we explained in our holiday episode hit parade chronicling the technological changes that eventually gave Christmas songs a bigger profile on the charts the digital evolution of the music business. This was about to give a major boost to weird al and all novelty musicians all of this music with all of these rights you you can buy for ninety nine cents per song with no subscription the new office launch of both legal commercial social music downloading by apple and video-sharing by Youtube would change the possibilities for hit making download. Sales were routed to the hot one hundred in two thousand five making it possible for album cuts holiday songs and other Ephemera to score single sales and and chart like they never had before and the launch of Youtube that same year even though it did not count for the charts back then changed the possibilities for music promotion and the first big beneficiary was a novelty song twinkle in the late afternoon just to see how he's doing. What's what Saturday Saturday night live? CAST member Andy Sambuc who was also part of a comedy music troupe. Called the lonely island made a name for himself. In his very very first season with a rap parody called Lazy Sunday. The video audio recorded with fellow cast mate. Chris Parnell was not only a buzz worthy hit on a December episode of SNL. It happened to land just weeks after the launch of Youtube Lazy Sunday became Youtube. First major hit reinforcing that the combination of music and comedy was potent viral content. Andy Sandberg unwitting proof of concept for Youtube was well timed for weird Out who was preparing to return with a new album and even more than on his ninety s coolio parody always going to go hard after after hip hop get me Ryden. Heiden was a number one hit in the spring of two thousand six for Houston Rapper. The track told a tale of urban policing as has the rapper. Bemoaned over zealous state troopers pulling over his car looking to catch him ride in dirty or finding illegal substances if it sounds like your hit. Parade host is over explaining a street rap cut and taking the edge out of it in a rather Caucasian manner. Well Weird Al Yankovic went much further than weird. AL turned camilion airs ride in dirty into white and nerdy a different it. Kind of St Tale of Geek. Who wants to hang with the gangsters but unfortunately is to white and nerd the Meta Brilliance of the assigned was that Weird Al wrapped it with legitimately dazzling flow matching millionare's triple time beat for beat and packing literally dozens of jokes in rapid fire succession website code? Do they call them all. Even all in the white and nerdy video was also a tour de force like edit the video recreated the look and feel of the original clip type with Geeky al standing in for the original star. But here was the difference between this single and every other video and song release in Weird Al's history white and nerdy could be shared on Youtube and the song could be purchased digitally again youtube. It did not yet count for the charts but it didn't matter fans who were enthralled by the video piled into the I tunes music store to buy the song for ninety nine cents the result white and nerdy exploded onto onto the hot one hundred when it debuted in mid October. Two Thousand Six at number twenty eight. It instantly became weird. Al Yankovic highest charting hit Since eat it in one thousand nine hundred four one week later white and nerdy pole vaulted to number nine becoming house. I ever top ten hit hit as had been true since the eighties radio. airplay of the song was limited but it's sales more than made up this deficit. White Eight and Nerdy was eventually certified by the Recording Industry Association of America as Weird. AL's I ever platinum single. Had these technologies oh jeez existed in earlier decades alll might well have racked up multiple top. Ten hits we'll never know but digital music. Changed the the possibilities for comedy singles over at Saturday night live videos by Andy Sandberg and the Lonely Island became the show's most viral content including the Justin timberlake collaboration. Dick in a box look inside is my Fox and the hip hop parody. I'm on a boat which featured t pain. The lonely island made the track available as an itunes download and it cracked the hot one. Hundred two as full weird al.. The Calculus for his career had changed fundamentally youtube and I tunes would allow him to release one off tracks whenever he felt inspired and while video had always helped his singles now it was more essential than ever weird weird. AL began issuing tracks for his next album years before it was even complete his two thousand six album straight OUTTA Lynwood had been his first ever our top ten hit driven by the video for white and Nerdy when Al finally issued his follow up Album Alpaca Lips in twenty eleven he commissioned videos for every track including his lady Gaga Parody. Perform this way. The result Al Pacalypse debuted at number nine on the charts a a bit higher than straight Outta Lynwood. Weird AL's multi single multi video strategy had worked and video play still didn't count for the charts arts but that was about to change too as we discussed in prior episodes of hip parade in two thousand thirteen billboard rebooted the hot one hundred again to include in Youtube views for the first time Brooklyn. Dj Bowers Electronic Dance Track Harlem shake instantly debuted at number one fueled by a viral fad. That felt a lot like a novelty trend before two thousand thirteen was out. An actual novelty song would benefit from in this new Chart Mountain Bard and V guard ilva soccer a pair of brothers from Norway and a comedy duo the call themselves Elvis us for short recorded a parody of Edm for their Norwegian TV talk. Show the oddly legitimate sounding dance pop song was it's called the Fox parentheses. What does the Fox say and they accompanied it with a hilarious video of the brothers in Fox costumes cavorting avoiding in a forest never intended for the US market the Fox became a viral sensation? Anyway with both adult pop fans and kids especially the video and under billboards new hot one hundred rules. The Fox became an actual top ten. Hit peaking at number six observing. All of these changes weird Al Yankovic decided to go all out for his twenty fourteen album. Mandatory Fun and as with Al Pacalypse he would produce multiple music videos. Except this time he would deploy all of the videos in a single week turning his album. Deployment into an event some of the videos like his parody of Pharrell Williams smash happy called Tacky aped the look of the original clip others were animated or more conceptual. Al Did not attempt to pick a lead single. He let the marketplace decide eventually really the most shared video his parody of Robin Thicke hit blurred lines turned into a grammarians lament. Called word. Crimes became became the most shared video. And it brought weird Al Back to the top forty word. Crimes hit number thirty nine in August of two thousand fourteen but the best the billboard news of all for Weird Al Yankovic was on the album chart that week of youtube blanketing videos spurred the best week of sales of his career more than one hundred thousand copies of mandatory funds sold in. Its first week. The collection debuted on the billboard. Two hundred hundred album chart at number one. The magazine reported that it was not only the first number one album in his three decade career. Weird al a chart topping debutante at age fifty four mandatory fund was also the first comedy album of any kind to top the chart in fifty fifty. One years since Allan Sherman's LP my son. The nut hit number one in nineteen sixty three disregard this land six years after Weird Al Chart Triumph Mandatory Fund remains remains the last album. He has issued in interviews in the late. Tens Allah has indicated. He might not release albums anymore. Focusing on individual joel singles and videos given his improbable success. You can understand why still happy to capitalize cleverly on a cultural phenomenon on in two thousand eighteen. Al Teamed up with Tony Winning Broadway composer Lin Manuel Miranda for the Broadway Medley. The Hamilton Polka the Charter Alexander Hamilton. The Hamilton Polka top the digital sales chart for one week making it hilariously Polka music. I ever digital chart-topping but at a time when downloads count less for the charts than they they once did as the music industry moves towards streaming music. The Hamilton Polka didn't make the hot one hundred so should weird al.. How retire from recording? He continues to tour but now entering his sixties it might be sensible to pass the torch to a new generation one of parachutists on the other hand in some ways. It has never been a better time for funny music. And certainly viral music on the billboard charts the number one song of twenty nine thousand nine hundred was not strictly speaking a comedy record but old town road by little nauseous featuring billy ray Cyrus was certainly funny and as the song spent over four months on top of the hot one hundred and the music business business debated what Genre Ole town road belongs in pop or NBA or rap or country many called it admiringly the biggest novelty hit of all time. Remember that since the birth of rock and roll and the rise of hip hop the lines between novelty ability and normal hits have been unsettled at best and when modern day songs become hits because of means like Lizard. Truth hurts even win court leaving because of tick tock videos like the song at number one this very week. Roddy riches the box. It seems that there has never been greater premium placed on recording artists. Who can bring the snark the goofy the kitchen the funny as of twenty honey twenty billboard has even started to count official youtube videos for its album chart if an artist like say weird Al ever pulled a multi video album launch again? Well who knows how big that album and its singles could beat in one thousand nine hundred ninety as weird. Al Yankovic toured the country with a full orchestra. A concert. Your hit parade host was thrilled to attend last summer. He looked happier and prouder of his unprecedented career than ever for US fans. That's more than enough. But Hey out if you ever wanted to record again and maybe make some tick talkable content that chart-topping career of yours just might enter its fifth decade. You could be wrapping into your seventies doc Janet. 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