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Episode 421 - Space Cowboys

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Episode 421 - Space Cowboys

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There's always there's always somebody searching for some or somebody's grandson hooked him up with the internet and podcast at this pace cowboy to that movie show much, which is now they're not talking about Korean war. This is of course, space Cowboys from the year two thousand two thousand kick we are having a lot of fun with year. Yes, that's three in a row, dude. Where's my car fun on this the nation filed us nation? This fucking crazy mattress, dude. The two thousand Hedrick. Indeed I directed by. Clint Eastwood, of course. Yeah. My stamp is all over this movie. This like, I know people really don't like, but this was really the dregs of his career this one this. It's this power this time. Work. Movies are well reviewed they'll for the time. No, busy. This was this was but people and I'm not looking Chris cabin. When I say, this people just give Chris Clint Eastwood pass on everything they whatever he does like the mule. Yes, the mule. Chris you all of his movies, right? Fucking jersey, boys. Chris cabin that is downright unforgiving. I like boys. It's definitely not my favorite like Merrick the meal. I do really like wire can snipe, although I will say this about that movie, not a fan of plastic babies general. But like, I do think it's an insufficient movie about Chris Kyle short think it's a really good movie about war. I would just hits an insufficient film at that's fine. But I will even cop to this run is the worst really bad. Well, this is before he did like the mystic river run. Like, he gets back into prestige territory, and he's getting paid for Oscars almost every other year at that point. Yeah. But this was like, yeah. This was like unforgiving. Happened. And like kind of a raced the Cadillac man world, he was a Syria now like men timeline. Exactly. Bishop came back from the altar. See on his face your rates Cadillac. You're not thinking you're pink Cadillac hin Cadillac. Cadillac's man is Robin, Robin. Because the Cadillacs. Yes, what what with tattle? I just wanna have a look real quick because it is an interesting like era. Well, this is just what he's making movies for grown up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unforgiven forget what's in between. And then a perfect world. Perfect world unforgiving perfect world. And the bridge Matic's county, which is a great movie. That's seen bridges of Madison County. No, it's been talked about a lot. Now. That's like a pornographic film. Yes. It's rated triple X seen the post. Fucking on a bridge the most facials in any movie ever nominated for an Oscar that I mean, close you're gonna take it in the ass on this bridge ready for your facial. It's a close up that was ninety five, but then ninety seven absolute power and midnight in the garden of good Nevil and will ninety nine true crime. Then this work, and Mr. and then mystic river heads that. Because then you got mystic river million dollar baby flags were father's letters from Iwo Jima changeling, which is fuck in boring shit show, less letters. Jim might be his best love mystic river a lot. I'm visser. I loved that movie. Still do that's a fucking cable afternoon. It Sunday you're about to make some dinner on TNT. Yup. Honey, don't touch it. Turn the stove off the noodles can sit this. Dick, rivers big line from them movie pies. At my daughter. Or or I'm talking about vampires one of the other, you know, what the terrible movie of his hereafter that is allies. Wins a psychic and he's ineffective. Consumer nami. Back to this because I Clint Eastwood should not touch science fiction or fantasy kind of. No, this is realistic fact, and the I'm Debbie tribunals bringing this up on soul my movie, and he said, it was really real. I love that. It's just a couple of astronauts movie said the space stuff looked really is there like a space looks real. It's just a bunch of star. Some astronauts were polite to an old man who directed a movie and also word the premier they got to be cleanest. Like, wow looked like base up there. If you look at those pictures, dude, it's those astronauts Clint Eastwood they all showed up and Jason Alexander. Oh. At night opening onto. Sure, he was at the original screening of greed. So this is like the late nineties early thousands astronaut craze, we had I think. It's disaster. Like, I mean, like, you don't really get much of the disaster until the very own stuff is fucking not. We were we were into astronauts, spec them. What are the other not movies thirteen of the 'oughts up all the teams like ninety five? That's started Armageddon. Deep into this. There's got to be stuff on it rocket, man. Demars the to Mars movies. But it was like more like realistic astronaut John carpenter's ghosts of Mars. I believe was around here. Route right here. Yeah. That'd be good movie. If it didn't have one of the worst soundtracks in human history. It's pretty bad. Yeah. But this is about four older gentlemen, who Mr. shot to go into spaces, younger gentleman and blackmail question. Mark their way to go to space, and it's most of the training montage until it turns into a space thriller. They hold the world hostage. Any much? Oh, well, I guess the satellite. We'll just have to blow up the earth. Then it's ridiculous. It's like space garbage is gonna fall into the earth's atmosphere. And if it doesn't burn up, maybe the ocean, and you're like, okay, fine. But you don't realize what the stakes are until like seventy five percent of the way through the second actor Bill. I don't know if I'd agree with that. Because this is on fucking Cromwell that he doesn't tell them what the fuck is up there. Like like then. Oh, well, fuck. Yeah. Get the fucking. Well, says he doesn't know. That's the thing doesn't spell out is whether like how good is James Cromwell. And I think he's in on it the whole way I think he was one of the most unsettling old man voices on a young on you because he's trained like a southern accent in this too weird. Yeah. So let's start at the fifty right? So nineteen fifty eight it's all in like bluish, gray. Just that's how you know. It's old. It's time the world used to look like and this team of. Air force people. I guess air force pilots as project or team data lists and its actors that sort of but not really look like their older counterparts. But we are doing the old man voices. Dublin these dudes what are you thinking Clint Eastwood, and we should say it's Clint Eastwood Tommy Lee Jones, James garner and Donald Sutherland, correct as the horny one as the horn. And you, you know, the whole new one at you've got it all demand. Yeah. That's right. I'm just a young bucket in my mid twenty mid like early twenties and the the Tommy Lee Jones one looks so young. And just that voice coming out of him is just it is startled old men. Do not sound like young men. Not even I would just just eight not have this scene. Totally fine. I would got it. Because we we are explained this scene the entire movie how you do this. This is how you open this movie the same way they opened back to the future. It's Clint Eastwood's house. And the cameras just panning all clippings, and photographs of it's like project Daedalus sidelined. Nasa created send a chimp into space instead. Stein breakfast. This is my favorite one JFK. Marty don't turn on the amplifier. This is the one where I kissed Nixon on the lips. I love the Brown estate per and the Brown family wet with I live next door to fuck and Burger King Ono mardi. What did you do? You played the Brown. Mardi gets a batch of fucking kids. Just play a little clip of what Clinton just because you know, we're doing the old Eastwood voice. Oh, it's it's he sounded much different. This is what he sounded like in the nineteen eighties own the nineteen eighties. Seve his cute little vial here. It's crack rock cocaine. The most addictive form you think it's the glamour drug of the eighties. That's the point of this frontal, reminder, it can kill you. And if you've got a guy for something. This sure as hell ain't it. I'll have what he's. Damn that goes down, smooth your point is. Yeah, he doesn't he's nothing like his old enough with the crack get me my cocaine in here, and I'll do another. Let's go. He's pretty much doing dirty Harry in that commercial. Yes, exactly and dirty Harry for dare. But like sign up for our paycheck and get the paycheck archive. Listen to the first episodes of this show. Sure. From twenty twenty ten we sound extremely if it's unsettling, and that's only basically ten years, not even that. But you did that you're doing those great YouTube clips of like older episodes, you just doing a steel which is like two or three years ago. Now who's that baby? And it's. That's that's that's. Yeah. We have a YouTube channel we've been putting up clips, and we've got video mailbags a bunch of other interesting stuff up there, you should check it out. So Clint Eastwood and Tommy Lee Jones young counterparts or flying this plane. Frank were waited in Valhalla. Hey frankish. We your twenty year old running Betty. I'm going to be in every out how she house shit house a young man, I'm eating shit, look Frank. We don't talk about that hand job. It was just between me and you two fellas hand jumping back in Korea. Off. I gotta get all Jack, Jack, Jack Jack nothing wrong with that. That's just a saying saying high end she. Okay. Um old. We'll say a little Spratly when you stuck that finger at my hands. Oh, he wasn't gay because we did it in the DMZ know him to me. The yes crashed his point Tommy Lee Jones crisis. Plenty of a hotshot. He like wants to break he wants to go to humans ever been. Yeah. Don't do it and they do. And of course, the engines failed, blah, blah, fucking falls apart as any human has ever been with this file of crack. Oh, this is me as a young, man. I shown like this. Younger. Insane. I've never listened to the DVD commentary position movie. I wonder if it's ever anywhere been addressed the fucking decision for this. It's like who could care. It's a rare. Because it does happen. We we've talked about another more they do this. And it's driving me nuts thinking about it. I do agree with the funny thing is Eastwood even knows it looks like shit because most of the dialogue shots. It's the mouth is obscured some way because he knows end or he cuts away and like writer someone starts talking to the back of his head, especially with Cromwell lady this flash, look, so bad. It's so obvious. That's what's jarring about the Donald Sutherland one because you see his mouth the whole time. Voiceover going on. Exactly. Well, even do that. Like, maybe they're inside their own has. I remember back then. That's at least something I mean. I think having whatever you're thinking of whatever other movie this happened. It has to be a thing where it's a comedy. And it was like 'cause I'm thinking thing words like kids, but they have the adult voices comedy. This is totally appropriate. Turkey. Got it. Look who's talking. All right. Well, they do that. Right. They do kind of it's more of an inner monologue, baby. Talking like, Bruce wills. Yeah. Nice Lepetit kind of. No, it's just a stupid move. So he crashes der upset with each other Eastwood punches him out here Sutherland's upset because he has to stop looking at pornography's can break up the fight due dude. This guy is this guy is a sex addict. He should be in treatment. Yes. Jones character should be shot in the head here. He just destroyed this plane to see if he can get a break up record for high in the sky, not only has he done this. We learned a that this plane costs four million dollars in nineteen fifty eight fucking money, and he has crashed three before hands. Yeah. You are talking about a twenty million dollar Tommy Lee, then you're gonna have a grudge against the government for not sending you into space. Three four million dollar planes cabin twelve noon there we also sorry. I didn't know we hate math here. Off the crack rock so you can do math properly. I hate math. I can't do. See this cute little vial here crack rock cocaine the most addictive form. You think it's the glamour drug. Rewind. It can kill you. This is gotta die for something. It's gonna keep adding. I love it. So yeah. Big fight. They get grounded the go into chrome os office. There's a big like hullaballoo over it and much like the rest of the movie. James garner has nothing to do like, he's just I understand you wanna four guys here. But like that's the problem with later in the movie is it's just the timely Jones. And Clint Eastwood, which is fine do that need. I mean, I guess down Sutherland is being the comic relief and James Garner's. Just totally useless easy thing. I mean because this was two thousand he was fairly fucking old at this point. Do you think it's a thing where it was like, they got them all there and Garner's like, yeah. Can only do so much probably shouldn't have signed on for this movie, you know, with older people. They should do it. Like, you do with babies and have twins only the only way an older movie is if they're twins half of them could do one split up that work thing couldn't get Ned guy. Garner to come on. I mean because by the time you get to the notebook and like oh four he's like a skeleton with a little bit of skin left. If this was on the the Tribune the best source for all news is that they may like garner and Eastwood so clearly older than Sutherland big head, especially Joe Jones sprite sixteen years older than Tommy Lee Jones, which is crazy. That's like you. Eric hanging out in the nineteen year old pretending to be friend sounds pretty cool. This is all telling you to stop hanging out the parking lot, unload, all this vial of crack. Cute vial of crack routes cute. How cute it looks. It's like winking at you. Isn't it you see this cute little detective? Yeah. That's a detective Pika chew. But it's the most dangerous form of I think you're right that Pokemon shit addictive. Right. Like if anyone's ever was into watch that Pokemon movie in two thousand speaking to right? They were they never looked back. And you can't even talk to them like they're human beings anymore. Cute polka bomb. That's a that's an addictive that pokey model. Kill you. What's that gigli puff? It's your. Over charm, enters gonna Choi your life fella. You're going to be chasing your first Pika chew high for the rest of your day. Okay. Manco more like Pokemon go to your grave. I saw some some kid asked me if he wanted to get a squirt. I'm like, hey, man. I'm attic Korea. I know do squirrels with people. I don't take no mister mind's. So the final little piece of this flashback is James Cromwell's. Character gets them all on stage. And it's like we're shutting down project day that list because this new thing called NASA has been created and it's a civilian institution. That's gonna take over space exploration. And the first person the first American to go to space, and he's like putting his hand on fucking Eastwood shoulder. Dick move. It totally is fucking bring out this chimp named Marian. But he does it. It is a dick move very like he's got his hand over Eastwood. He's like, yeah. We're going to send them to space and here she comes and it's her, but it's like you're calling the press conference to you million. It yourself only because it'll take down your enemy power move. I'm gonna destroy my credibility. Fuck that. Gus do it is point Cromwell right here. So that we cut to present day. And this was something that was interesting. Yes. Remember, Marcia gay harden? Oh, yeah. It's like, I know she's on some TV show. Now that a lot of people like that code black. She did little show. She also did this year. It was lifetimes race to the finish to beat that Hulu show about. Mommy, didn't dearest. Oh. Is that right? Yes. She didn't have the rights of the names were different. But same story. We're mother dead endearing pretty much mother. Deadened damn, dude. The act is fucking crazy by the way, who but that is some good watching the not not that lifetime, which I've seen. I haven't seen the good one. I've seen the bad. It's interesting. Just like we're talking about Eastwood at all these movies in the early two thousand remember when Marcia gay harden was like everywhere though, like she was in. This Pollock was this year. Mystic river. She's in like two years later. She's very good in into the wild. Yes. Into the wild. Yeah. So I was like oh, yes. She's fucking great. And I don't see your and things much as I mean, she's just has the worst haircut ever seen in this movie. This is really bad. And in this movie, she her whole characters like I'm a fan of these old guys these old guy. Older women are that's kind of the weirdest part of they're all like, oh, it's so cute. It's like the crack vial, Greg, vile, crack vial, man. That's what my parents used to refer to me. Yes, she's learning that this satellite is going down is Russians at rush. Am I right or wrong? Is she wearing a kangol here? I'll kangol hats show. She has some weird hat and she's wearing Jen Cho's wallet. And he's smoking a cigar. I think you mistaking it for that little Lulu haircut. She's got this thing is ridiculous. Swoop and it's like really short took Ursus credit. It looks like a hat. Exactly. Like a hat. It's a helmet haircut. It looks terrible. It looks like. Who was the guy on mad TV that played the little boy Stewart? Yeah. That guy that Michael whatever the McDonald. Yes. That character had that haircut. I think kinda source one of those one of those sketch shows were too dull was playing a child. It was this dumb helmet haircut. Do they always do that? Never. I think it grosses me out gusting does. Now, we're on the plane ground. Lord, Michael's directing. What would you be a baby that you could be a baby when you like to be embarrassed on live television. You knew Mike Myers ratio. Happy to have you come back to host the show. What about resurrecting eurod character where you played a baby? Wouldn't it be funny? If you play the baby goo Gaga, do see exactly. I just got skin shivered. Yeah. Disgusting or was he Stewart and Michael McDonald's character. Donal was doing and then Mike Myers Simon. Sorry. Oh drawings. Took baths. Yeah. And he was on. He was like tied to a jungle gym it was. And there was a sketch. Worry fuck, Nicole Kidman or something? That's birth. Yes. The film. Mike Myers acting like a baby and the Cameron bright. Danny huston. Wasn't that episode though? I will say the best one of those day ever did was with Danny devito who played his little friend, Danny devito being the interview and like the Mike Myers was would you look at my bum bum as dated. To you wanna look up my. Asser member. Laughing rain survey by the ways like the president of rushers Clinton should play a baby on SNL or so. Yeah. The voice shit is the same. I, you know, I don't know if you've ever hosted SNL, he should at least one it would make so much sense for him to play a child on SNL because Clint Eastwood would be obviously hosting a diaper. I'm for my sense of humor. Yeah. Exactly. My last film was the mule and today, I'm smuggling log at these drawers. I shit my pants. Yeah. Well, sorry. But I'm answering a question here. According to to be his never hosted, of course, because it's it's a little too lefty for him. Yeah. That's true. I'm not I'm not gonna talk ill of our president. Unless we are talk Gil of our president, depending on the tech eight I saw what those comedies did to Hackman change. The word comedies a little close to communist. I do most of my comedy with a chair. If the chair can't be the musical guest walking and music. It's a charity like Lenny pickets planes sex phone next to it. That'd be awesome. Ladies again. Ladies and gentlemen, once again share. Chair with stool. We had a great night. I wanna fake Robert deniro for coveted play at Robert Mueller for no reason to think that share obviously odd. Thank you stool, both of them, the what in my pants and the one on stage. Rage. Beige is like this Russian space agency guy. Sure. And he's at this panel where like Marcia gay harden explaining that, this thing's gonna crash, and it's like, oh, we gotta fix it. And of course, what is this problem? The guidance system in this thing is so old, and it has to be fixed up in space like, you know, hands on nobody who currently works for NASA knows this out day can fuck and figure it out because it's so genius. Fuck you fifty years later, you couldn't figure out Clint Eastwood fuck and engineering lifted notebook behind like the world forgot dos. And now we have to have an old man do dos now like someone couldn't fuck in reverse engineered and their boomer fantasy, right? You're right. It's like, oh, yeah. They'll miss us Aventura. A you need. Well, you've got to think that every character every character that's like younger than sixty has memento like like, they just forget everything the minute there. Offscreen right. This is a lower end dean plays little stuffed shirt here. Play the same role in Apollo thirteen. Basically all the guy who came practice system. It's that guy and he's also in enemy of the state of bunch like he's a ninety act. Okay. No. What I remember is. He's the asshole boyfriend from say anything. Yeah. He's just that guy. He's just a guy. That's got an unlikable face to it. So yeah, it's what are you gonna do? We gotta go who who on earth could possibly fucking solve this dilemma, and it's like, it's basically Clint Eastwood doing home improvement like this show home improvement for. Yeah. Our politics. Don't really align. Wilson get off my lawn pass me that Amer Al there's nobody else in the room. Yeah. Wilson's dead. I stood my ground. By the way, I also rolled over on my crack cocaine dealer for shorter sentence. Jill Jill said, she was going back to graduate school. So I hit her. This is it's like some early signs of what is now just like full blown Eastwood in present day, but he's fixing this garage door opener and his wife is like, oh, you didn't even let me give you the instructions, and he's like, oh does instructions from Japan probably written by Gringo translated by a Japanese guy, probably shot it and then spell check by another Gringo kind of knows Japanese. What do you think Gringo for this is word for fucking English? What they do to save costs is they make they make an American admixing. It's what are you talking about? You fucking bitterly weirdo. Of course, fucks it up, and it doesn't work and the government has to open is that what happens the government opens the garage. No this a boomer and trouble. The government's gonna bail me out. It's whatever this dude, this young guy eve, whatever thin. Yeah. Is like, you know, oh, he says, oh, I found the garage door opener in your car because he he Eastwood hooks it up correctly. I forgot to put the fucking Japanese batteries in it. Hey, but it's all good news because it gets almost fuck. His wife for the first time in twenty years. He's pretty horny right here. They cut have like joke sex for a second which I've never had jokes. I'm assuming that comes later litter on where she's like, oh, hell, the there's a crazy, man. And you know, if they're actually gonna fuck or maybe not it's deaf. They're going to thing where she's like, oh help me. There's a dirty old male. Is Joe old man gets thrilling? She's sincere. She's just not a good actor God help me. Is that's all there. She's got dementia. This this is my house. No, it's not just leave. Please leave this looked Clint Eastwood was born in nineteen thirty. So I think he might be pre boom. Oh, dustbowl baby. A bowler. Bunch of dust came out in my mom, and it's me. Right. And I slept an Okie. That's what my words. Look like now. Wood shavings and dust. Trying to do dust. It's my impression of dust that that's right. Keep going. Keep it going. Teaches you to play the fucking Trump it over that. Dust, pretty cute. They which I realize now looking at his house and the whole situation. I realize what I should have done was been born in the nineteen forties, fifth thirties forties. Got to the year two thousand killed myself before everything went to. Oh, that's the move. You wanna be a retiree in the late nineties early thousand. Absolutely. That's it once the Iraq war shows up. Yeah, I'm good Iraq war new medal. Yeah. I'm out of there. And you've got to Joe POWs, you know, what? I mean, we've probably got a second property somewhere else. Totally kill yourself before. It's a fucking underwater mortgage you see nine eleven happening. And you're like, it's time. You don't want to fill the Bill goodbye. Alex, Rebecca, the reverse mortgages, right? Patchett being on nine eleven watching. Like, what's the worst kick? It happen. Could happen. So Marcia gay harden in this other dude, the there to recruit Clint Eastwood to get him to weigh in on this whole thing he has a line here. Talking to this dude put a sock in it sunny to chewing on ice, which is the most unpleasant thing I've ever seen in the movie like literally John waters, never got their shoot Clint Eastwood chewing on I listen, I will take Clint Eastwood Jing is then what happens throughout the rest of this movie, which is William divine chewing gum with his fucking mouth open like a goddamn ratio. Yeah. Fucking huge teeth just jumping on this debate. I was going to get there has the biggest mouth in Hollywood. That thing is the gentlemen is that way Trump angry about the Kentucky Derby is the horses chewing gum. That's what happened. Yes. This scene has something that opens a whole world for me with him 'cause Ethan and the young guy. Marcia gay harden? They're showing him the prince of his design we need you to come in. We need you to look at this thing. And he's like I thought you might be working for that pieces ship Gerson, and you see the wife in the background. And you just know. Oh, yeah. For the last fifty years every little thing. It's been that fucking Bob Gerson. Yup. Absolutely dude, every fucking opportunity Clint Eastwood has to bring up James Cromwell's character. He's been doing party. It's like, oh, yeah. Well, I just consider myself a people person. Did you say Bob Gert? I did. Well, that's a bitch took credit for all go to bed. You know, my favorite composer was George Gershwin. Did somebody say Bob curse, and you know? I'm sorry. We're all out of the Flink stakes that fucker. Piece. Just kill them. Crazy, astronaut stalker. I was expecting because this turns into slobs versus knobs for the middle of it a little bit. Yeah. Just good old fashioned punched in the face at the end of the movie like you know, what I mean like punches in the face Cromwell crawling. He's giving the speech, and he punched me like falls over an Ottoman or something like one of those also because I'm pretty certain by the end of the movie, it's confirmed that James Cromwell's. Character is a traitor lady. Oh, yeah. Well, somehow the KGB got a hold of his files. Yeah. I'm one hundred percent like Cromwell is crooked is moving. And I think they were like fucked movies already, two hours and ten minutes. We can't wrap up this scenes deleted of came like going to the Hague getting executed problems even hung from the neck 'till dead. Finally, take that Gerson. Fuck this have you seen? How tall this? We just don't got enough. I've been waiting fifty years for this. I volunteer. I will strangle on this platform an apple cart. I'll I'll choke scarecrow to death. Wait a minute. I got it. I'll be the platform. I'll get down on my hands and knees you put Bob Gerson that rattle stake on my back. And then when you got the news around his neck, I'll just lay on my belly. Well, let gentlemen, welcome to New Jersey did somebody buddies. So it's one of those really bullshit like he kicked them out. Like get outta my house. They go back to Cromwell's off as like, well, we couldn't get him. And then Eastwood just waltzes right in to do it. I'm gonna do it my way, and I'm gonna get my team up there, which is sort and John Glen just happened. Pretty resold right cap. We shot him back into space. Remember we did. I don't remember. That was a huge thing. We do that some to save. He died. Forgot his keys. Oh, son of a gun. My keys are back in Spain. Because Frank Sinatra actually wanted to be flown to the moon. Yes. Sinatra died like what ninety eight Glenn thing. Like nine hundred Nacho into space to know. He's saying fly me to the moon. Yeah. You're not gonna hear any kickback for me on that. But so, yeah, he's like I'm gonna do it. It's going to be my way might team it cetera et cetera. So now, it's like getting the band back together situation. Sure, you gotta love it. He's stupid James garner. His only thing which doesn't come to anything. Which is he's a preacher. That's something. You'd think like at the end of the movie he'd give like a like a last rites or something to Tommy Lee Jones as total some comforting religious garbage. But he doesn't no I think is he's like halfway full of shit. Like, we're introduces character. He's giving a really bad fucking sermon. Sure. Like, totally totally tanking. Yeah. And tell right tank is nicknamed tank. He's beefing this fucking sermon until he sees Eastwood like sitting in one of the pews like your fucking it up body. And then he just tells. This story about astronauts as his sermon it was fucking finally go to this church for twelve years. Space. He said can you just start recapping movies do Indiana Jones? I was tank is does that mean his brother as dozer does that? We're still good a bird. Like it or not you son of a bit. You're still gonna burn. How about old man matrix that works? He'll get unplugged in he's in the prime of his life as a Keanu Reeves and whatnot. But they got unplug some old people. I know confu-. Info. You on introduced the lady readdress. It's also just still Joe Pantoliano. Stake at four thirty. Load into my brain every combat move yet. Glenn had gone back into space in. I think like ninety eight loaded every Asian slur. You can cram my brain with Asian solar ago. Wait, I've become the one. I'm seeing the slurs. Holy crap. There's too I hadn't heard of before. It's like God. Not like this. Would be switching I think. So. All right. He's got the same kind of color hair. So. Yeah, Cromwell is in like instantly because why wouldn't you be garner garner excuse me? So then next we go to fucking Donald Sutherland and who's like a now, he's an engineer who designs rollercoaster. He's not as young as Tommy Lee Jones, but he's significantly younger than the others absolutely down that he's a Carney. Case. No, he's designing these things ponytail. So this is Carney's. Yes. This is like he looks like I believe it was Martin malls character on the Simpsons. Okay. Harlan's character, which everyone had that pony tail. I'll give you two words there. Rick Baker is the Rick bay as oh, you're totally right with that fucking delicious white hair new opponent tale. That's the biggest sin of this movies. When fucking Sutherland gets to NASA. He's got a stupid haircut. And they're like, oh, yeah. Clint Eastwood shows up he's testing a roller coaster. It's like, oh, what a fun old guy and he's talking to attractive. Young woman is like well, your dad sure does know how to design of roller coaster. She's like, yes, he does. She doesn't correct him. Yep. She specifically the correct him. And like he comes down they start making out. Now, you know what you're not the first time. They've pulled this little gal Apso. Gag. It's totally possible. That reminds me though, shockingly, and I think this actually happens more often than not with him in movies, Eastwood age-appropriate wife. He's good about that. Yeah. But this woman. Like like, Nancy Travis or something like someone in their mid forties. And now they have to fuck Clint Eastwood movie towards good about that stuff like in the mule. And he has got that three way. Married. Eric the one he's marriage tie-in, we stayed. Thank you for coming to my moving. Now, you get to watch. We have a three way too. Sadly, those are like they're heavily implied. It's they don't show the actual fucking which is a problem. It's just him taking his his pants down from his mid belly. Unshackling goddamn belts. Here we go again. Rollercoaster every fed to see and the women. And everyone to. But yeah, it's not like Emily blunt playing fucking in fucking mule. Diane stein. We what bothered me about the Mueller. I'll just I'll stop here. It's she is such an important role in that movie through and through. She doesn't get the end end. Bacar SIA gets the anthonys barely in that move. Oh, that's the hammer giveaways, but she's a bigger like Andy Garcia's role is more minor. But the end is like and Diane we well you do it endgame did and give like nine four with. Those are some confusing credits at the end of that was watching actually episode and feature. These loser sold on dude. Speak in a witch. I tuned in to the Sandler episode of SNL has to like see what was going on. And that opening montage. I have not watched Saturday Night Live in this is when he came back to host. Just like last week people. Listen in the future when the sand. Yes. When Sandler hosted? That cast characters look like a poster for missing children. I had no idea who anybody was the end fucking, and and Robert deniro and Ben Stiller and fucking Alec Baldwin. That's yeah. Exactly. All those funds. The other guys that are dating celebrity. So. Yeah. Sutherland's make it out this lady he agrees to do it. He he's an easy sell to. It's just like fuck it. It's another roller coaster ride again. These guys don't him in him in garner. Only one character trait each he's just he FOX and that it right? And then it's a well. Have you talked to hawk and he's also designing scary rides. Oh, right. There's a there's a kid. It's his birthday not a kid. I guess twenty year old. Yeah. Yeah. It's his birthday, and he's gonna take them up in his era aeroplane crop duster. So here's the thing. Tommy Lee Jones is living in Utah working at a crop dusting facility. Sure. Kid comes up. He's like I want the shit scared at first of all. Yeah. To dudes are sitting here, we noticed this one guy film debut of Mr. Jon Hamm online as young pilot number two, right? But here's the thing. We're in Utah. Ta right for this crop dusting business. This kid has the thickest New England accent I have fucking he comes up. He's like, yeah. I want the shit scared out of me and Jon Hamm is like oh, go talk to Tommy Lee Jones, and he goes up to timely. Joe yobo? I want the shit skit outta me. It's my fucking birthday. I just ate Chatto. Okay. It's really weird. It's gross. But also like what a low rent activity. It's like, hey when you just give me some spins spins what my girlfriend's stands on the ground watches. It all from an hour there each week out in the middle of nowhere coming from fucking Essex mass. And then they're taking. Talks like that. I think it's just the actor problem. Probably. But it's you know, they should overdubbed them with an old, man. I want to shit scared out looking at Colson you bottomed out of this fucking project. You do this kid's right? It was supposed Tommy Lee Jones was supposed to be played by Jack Nicholson nano Jack Nicholson was supposed to be garner. Thank. Yeah. And then Sean Connery. Yes. Sutherland dad Connery give it to me. That's that's a movie now that now this is living. All right. I'm gonna design some Arolla coche does. Yeah. Look at how much fuck and fun. I'm having I'm gonna bring back you need opponent here. I'll just bring the horse had I had from the medicine mass. Oh, dude. Ramirez, we need you. That's what all highlanders. That's why was. Helps with your libido. There's you'll be go ahead. That's the way to kill. Clint Eastwood by the cut his head off. Oh, absolutely marriage. We got it. Met my throat is going with his early Ramirez. We gotta go to the planet in Highland or two. Those Burke people or some. Yeah. I don't know. It was going to see our episode on Highlander to the quicken. Ing. That's a confusing puzzle. So yeah, this kid throws up on Tommy Lee Jones, which is pretty great. And Clinton was like, hey, you know, we're going to space as well. I'm not gonna he's kind of like he doesn't want to do it. He just lost his wife. He's the only person that cares about anything. Apparently like everyone else. L dyin space. Well, yeah. Well, there's a heated passion and Eastwood's life. But it's not for that wife. We saw in the garage for Bob Gerson. It's added for there's he's got some other hatred that he spews a couple times right around here and other parts of the movie he fucking despises to people. Neil Armstrong, and John Glenn. Herbstreit walk to the moon shoot himself that said can you want to commit suicide? That's so awesome. Like, the whole world was happy. But I wanted to commit suicide. You should have done it in a really public way and take the spotlight away from Armstrong a little, you know, what I mean like, you it would be two fold you take the spotlight away from Armstrong. But then also you could get that rat son of a bitch. Bob gerson. U Penn and note on this is because Bob Gerson cancelled our space plays glory walk right into NASA. And you know, start doing, you know, yourself up man, just blow your blow yourself up. I'm sorry. We engineer of bomb. I'm sorry, sir. We don't we don't sell guns or bullets here that pastor, Bob. Kid here. I and tell you did not let me have it. So, you know, Tommy Lee Jones like no, go fuck yourself. So Eastwood goes down to the roadhouse where the other two days ago, what about a hawk and Jerry, and it's down at the roadhouse that is a life. I want I just to be down at the roadhouse exactly road has taken Jerry hawk. He's good a show up. Don't worry whereas hawk. That's the little twin peaks action. That's ready outback fucking the log lady, do we're hawkers. It's happening again. Push Leary's it. That. Yeah. Huc- put a seat in the log lady to grow new trees. So yeah. Eastwood drives back to the the roadhouse. Their a truck speeds by he's a crazy. Probably Asian dry. I got accessing Asia this learned. A. And he goes the Skift me bore Asiad slurs. You're not ready for those. And he goes the other that fucking main babies not gonna do the mission. And it was timing Lee Jones with sped by the truck and areas like you always drive so slow. He said something like he's like an old lady on her way to church. You you always drove his slow is an old lady on a way. That's it's not enough to say, Dr slow you have to miss Kelly. What will you wanna fuck right here? Jones. That'd be that'd be great way to end though. Yeah. Fuck you in this roadhouse house right now. I think I think Bob Gerson Clint Eastwood and around rob Brokeback moon to. Two. Element to spit in. My palm here. Take a fishing trip to the lunar. See, hey, actually, I know for me a couple of high altitude fucks year and by that I mean the moon. I out to get Jack. Who is you could quit you. On this. This. I like talk about one of our fake movies. That would never happen. We'll first of all wait who's directing. What? Not a problem with that. Clint. It's funny because he is the only out Republican all the other ones are liberals or Democrats, really. I mean, all of them are out liberal, Tommy Lee, and it's crazy they wound up getting paid to be an movie together. Can you believe this incredibly insane shot? Remember when Tommy Lee was dating, Pam. Hey, look at me. I'm getting blown on a boat Jak. Oh, man. I watch. It more often Jones has opened as it is you only tune in like once every six months just to refresh as anyone else yet. No. No. What the motley Crue move this Netflix? Yes. Okay. Go on wretched. Can I say one thing my favorite thing? L, please. There's a woman squirting within the first five minutes. Yep. Wow. Congratulations net flicks. While you're such a fucking revolutionaries streaming service. It's just it's the depth of hell, it's just I to watch the dirt, right? All right. Nobody cool, dude. The your buddy from game of thrones. There the dog is that the torture. They're the hound. No never won the the kill the it's about dogs. Oh Ramsey bolt. It tonight's the main the Lee is Vince, Neal is the singer. Yeah. The PTSD kid from the punisher. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, he's okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we're real real real top types stable and machine gun Kelly as Tommy lead. What's that? He's a rapper. Oh, also yet with 'em. He co hosted a couple of catfish ranks. Yeah. That makes max was making the terrible Zach loves Zak Ephron. I do what movie you're talking about your friends. Did you see no DJ J lo? I remember when that came out skipped it, it's I think it's like one of the biggest box office bombs in history. Now, that's pretty cool. The dirt didn't come out in theaters. That's what's brilliant about. Netflix. You save that you save face one hundred million people watch this movie. Yeah. Can we have that could you separate that from the fucking auto play, you pieces shit. We will see Trump's tax returns before we Z legitimate. Netflix numbers. I guarantee it thirty seconds. And you watched it thirty seconds. Hey counts count it. That's a watch. Tony. Run away. It's sort of like how we got your download. Folks, we've got your download, I know you're not listening anymore. Got down. All the seventy year old dudes that really loves space Cowboys. They were like, hey, they're making fun of it. So they they show up to NASA. And finally began instinct song, dude, my asshole tighten right up. It's so uncomfortable. Eight is the movies embarrassed bad movie is embarrassed about it immediately like low stops halfway through. I think they told the actors like I think they had the song plane onset. It's like you're going to be walking into the NASA facility. And this is what's going to be on the soundtrack? And they're all like I wish I had died ten years. It's almost as if they were trying to get it under fair use. Because I it's like a military like there's a lot. And then it goes into the guy. Brecca heck printer space our and like it's like thirty seconds of max of this song. And then he's like back to the peony. I composed nine symphonies for this movie. Justin, timberlake's ever met clean stood. Yeah. They did that movie. Oh, yeah. How could I definitely met? He also Timberlake. Also played the stool, oh, very good role for. Stooling box. And it's a stool sample, they show up and the problem with this movie practically Alzheimer's getting told you a that they can be replaced at anytime, but younger crew that they have a contract. And if they don't pass the physical keeps everyone keeps saying 'cause they know everyone in the audience is like this wouldn't fuck in happen. Listen, guys. They're also training young people. So maybe it's plausible. They also know that everybody in the audience is seventy years old and has to be reminded because every what take a drink every time. Somebody says something to the effect of. Grow up, your all your your kids. Now like kids clinics with not a team player, then Williams Evancho's what's going on here. And it's like well William to let you up to my gum while it happened. Rob show at nurse. I guess he's like the flight director of NASA, and he's Ben layers since the early days, he's aware of Clint Eastwood and how he cannot be team player, and he gives the whole rundown only after we sit through a fucking boardroom presentation. Marcia gay harden, lays out, the whole thing. Again. It's it's so much of the same footage over and over. I know just get to it. And also this has a tone because very much the same problem that stripes as which is like it's all about the training. And then the mission starts like, wait. What movie am I watching yet? Totally like better. Stripes stripes is still not great because of that. Yes. Exactly. Then we're in the super tank on all of a sudden fucking super tank in stripes. I can never get over it movies. You stop watching glittery. Glittery shouldn't have the structure of full metal jacket. Exactly one thing. I wanna point out before we move on any further when we're we meet up with Marcia gay harden at NASA, she's giving a tour to school group. Yeah. And you know, kids are asking questions and whatnot. And she's being good with the kids like giving this to her. And she's like, all right? Well, that's the end of the tour of haircut accident. Actually, I tried to get bangs. And it really went side. She's just like that is a great question. Is that a beret? My hair's me, what's a hair hat. No. So then all these kids are like walking out the door one by one. Thank you. Marcia gay harden? Thank you. Thank you. See all these kids like thanking her and waving to catch this the teacher at the end blows. Right. Pastor really doesn't say fucking word to this woman. I guess that's what I paid for. Rules. No tips keeps walking gay harden. As like a fuck million dollars signed little tip, Charlotte. So. Yeah. Marcia gay harden gives this whole thing. She's like and by the way before I start this boring presentation. Let's give a round of applause, the people who carrying at this mission these four old guys. Well, that's the weird thing too. Is it gets revealed later in the movie that they're like never the secrecy of the movie never makes sense one way. Or like, apparently the public doesn't know about this initially like people in this room. Do there's never any like. And by the way, this is really embarrassing for NASA. So nobody can talk about it outside of this facility. It some it goes public somehow, and it takes the nation by storm like they should be going on Jay Leno when they get back. Yes. Before they go. It's only because there's some fucking shutter bug in a car who photographs them like jogging on a track to the media. Hey old man running. That the vice president is like no they have to go because it's good publicity like NASA needs publicity movie. It's very much like police academy or more more likely like porkies kind of thing and the vice president who I imagine. It's still Al Gore. Yes is like the crusty old deed. Absolutely. Well, I've got this banquet. I hope those old geriatrics don't ruin it. Oh, those loudly roused abouts from NASA. Broken the moloch Cox now, Bob we're going to have to stop having Skype. Sex tippers coming in right now. I gotta go. We we drilled holes in your lock box to watch the lady shower porkies. Yes. That's the plot of board. Eventually totally fine thousand years ago. All I remember is that and I don't know if that that is actually. Because that might have just been another video. I saw well you could also just be like thinking about the box cover right on man. Right on man. I didn't they make sequels or my thing of our game. Well, the sequels meatballs. But. Yeah. Porkies porkies to the next day. And then I believe porky's revenge was meatballs horny. Very very always like the Hornets summer camp series around Bill Murray's, he's in the first one was like a counselor may be county. Yeah. He's in the first one is a personal favourite of somebody. Why are they calling them meatballs? They all talion. What's? Yeah. It's a it's an Italian only summer camp Italians only fat kids summer, mama me. Sauce one a one sauce one. Oh to fuck this place. They should call. It gravy. All right Genero get off that teach our DR Gento get off that too. Lights out all rights cappella lights out. It's it's pork and beef mixed together. You can't just do one Antony CI. That's not how you row a canoe. No. We're not going to stain in eating Deger. Didn't that fucking to soar knows? Now a kid that they're eating. Talion summer camp like a dark. Run out of food to mountain that that that pension is human. Johny pinch. They cut him alive. Whatever. So now, we're doing physicals in the first the first of multiple training. Montage take off their clothes. Well, this is the physicals were right. Then don't do it. Talk about it. I'm listening to my podcast. Yes. The altered bashful little boys, they're fine. Getting physical lady shows up and they cover their Johnson. Except for one person Sutherland hilariously has his hands behind his day. Just goes. Yeah. Do Sutherland's going full number weighing here. That's right. Go to good hog. Would anybody like to see my cock? Fillers which have used you push it towards them. Now, I see why we call them oddball in Kelly's heroes. One and a half Jesus. Jerry, by the way. Oh, you're left handed. Covering up the Dick's because a lady. We didn't have those back then ro. That's what that is. That's exactly what I do love. This begins the running gag of Tommy Lee Jones being like, oh, you used to new me whole you knew my dad. How is some bit always dead? He's locked. Yeah. Which made me realize the should be thing somewhere in this movie. Where like there was a fifth guy and the fifth guy and Tommy Lee Jones had the same job and Eastwood goes to get the fifth guy. And he's dead. Why he has to go to Tommy Lee Jones, guaranteed ten years. Not all four of us are still kicking around. Right. Probably honestly under five under five. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, donate to patriot while you can get Martin Landau and a sick bed or something. Yeah. He was still around today. Healy died kinda recently, it'd be him. Dresses, Bela Lugosi, anyway. Tragedy got Alzheimer's daughters. Bela Lugosi, just also stole footage from Ed Wood. Yeah, we buried him in his Kate. His last words to me were pull the strings. What? That's gonna make me throw up. Yeah. I watched Edward for a bit. Then I threw. Tommie Burton Phyllis. I just don't know. Holy shit. Man. Why Clint Eastwood in the Tim Burton movie would be kinda cool? I love us too bad that didn't happen, right. Ever gonna happen? No. It's never he probably really hates in that little weirdo. Tommy burks. Well, I mean, I guess would he be implanted of the baby? I mean, I guess was he liked the first choice, then they took Heston. Instead is that the. The. To rebate the Walberg. Charlton Heston, Charlton Heston in that movie is an old, man. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I forgot I've been no he'd be he'd be a monkey. He just be a month. Now, I'm a fucking monkey. That's right. You could call me. Oh fuck. What's monkeys name from the monkeys from his eight movies? Oh, CLYDE yet. If you were if he played CLYDE in that plan of the great movie or even better idea, you do a continuation. It's set kind of in the future for some reason Clint Eastwood in CLYDE travel to the future Clint Eastwood as Glynis CLYDE due to something something science fiction is played by Paul giamati into makeup from planned because I believe Paul giamati is playing the same Abe and Rangan. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Oh god. That'd be cool. Kaleen? Okay. Great. I'm sidled with fucking truck driving. Clint eastwood. Okay. Yeah. You can feed me here. Femi lots of beer, I get through this fucking shoot bucks. Ya. Now, I'm fighting a monkey oh, great. I got a monkey a monkey's voting democrat. Farts out. So there's a thing with their like cheat. This is incredibly dangerous they're cheating on this physical. Well, here's the thing. When you're giving an eye exam. You don't do it all won all four people watching it because that's how you get cheating, especially if it's a room full of bunch of fucking dirty, cheat and old men. Yes. The gag is Eastwood in timely Jones are competing who could see who. Could do it fast. Right. Right. Right. That's like gag the entire movie and it goes nowhere. It's flat as fuck because like that competitive streak or whatever it's just dead. The two of them. Don't have any chemistry in this. Nobody chemistry with anybody. That's a real problem. Sutherland's got chemistry with everybody out the three dudes just everybody else, especially the ladies, but Sutherland's like. Like, I kinda by suckling everybody else's just like, yeah. This weird like alpha dick bag, and nobody seems to like and James Garner's. Just busy melting. The only actual thing. I could buy human. You're right all the rest of them. Just like, I don't know anger assholes. Yes. There you go and sink. Other Sutherland, listen, these huge fucking coke bottle glasses right which you don't get to go to space. If you got those. And basically, let's get the Lazic. And he listens to everybody else do theirs, and then he'd just repeats by is suck. But by memories. Great, frankie. Boy. Yeah. Eastwood played Frank, by the way, he's always fucking. He's Franken Franken pink Cadillac old name. I know, you know, the thing is like why would you even let your friends sheet on this ship because you're like, oh, great. So now dad goes wrong dead this fucking shit. Yeah. I think a little word surge was in order because that made me very curious. Let's see thousand times million dollar baby. Frank, Frankie done space. Cowboys. Frank war, Kellyanne dough and Frank TV in the line of fire Frank Horrigan escape from Alex contrast, Frank Morris. There you go four times I'm like Tony danza with somebody else's days. Because he famously always play. Tony, right, right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a thing movie. They would I won't look it up. And you set a bitch is he playing is is he playing Tony? And that was that Josh groman show a net flicks. A what there's a show on Netflix? Whereas Josh Grogan, Tony danza and their father and son. And they're both cops. Tony danza was like a crooked cop. Something like time funny. It's a comedy. It. Looked mildly entertaining. I never watched another. Thing took some money here and there, and I yeah, I put a put shock at a restaurant that was supposed to be burned down. I didn't know people were going to be. I was just mucking 'fear. Angela. We're talking about net flicks. And Frank, and it's time like there's so many of these useless shows that do nothing get Frank Stallone Inish show. Wow. What would that be? Maybe just do barfly a sequel, but focusing solely on the bartender. Oh, that's true. I it just decades later yet still doing it. Frank Sloan wishes you. Everybody else has like totally checked out. Like Mickey Rourke nowhere to be found Faye. Dunaway. Nowhere to be found. All they're all they're all dead. And then everybody news. He's got treatment. They're better. But he's terrible. So it'd be like, but everybody I know is gone. And I think he protected his tweets now, and he blocked me, but I follow his Instagram. Now, he's trying to do like motivational stuff on there. Like, look, man. I played to our show last night playing guitar and I'm here at the gym. What's your excuse? Every day. I live them all. Yeah. That's right. There's another fake thing right here where they're trying to lift weights against like the young guys. Yeah. What's his face actually, van Courtney b Vance as like this one s or not and? Bane this huge. I've never seen bits pig. It's pretty awesome. He's cut and he's like Yotam E Lee Jones can you bench to twenty five and Tommy Lee Jones like with one hand behind my back. Yeah. But then it's like a weird like he's lifting. But James garner is also pulling it up. Yeah. Spotting them. It's a joke, but he's actually really after work. But then like the bullshit part of like, according to advance on the other guy like wow series shit hawk. You can totally see that old fucker. He's looked flexing. Looks like they're doing it on a vibrating bed. Dr oka- vein in Garner's forehead is going to explode. And like this is like police academy. Hijinks kind of stuff they serve them all around of insurance. That is funny. Yeah. And then Sutherland's like I drink the stuff all the time helps with by libido. Jerry, could you vote with that? Then the old men send the young men baby food. Yes. 'cause your babies and the most obnoxious part about both of these like we were trying to up each other scenes here. This fucking NASA half it out. What is this character getting in on it? And why is he enjoy black the time of his life? It's so obnoxious all Gs from the gentlemen over there. Also, it's a cafeteria serving anyone yet. Fucking line maggot. I was so frustrated with this character. Yeah. He's just he's he's having a fucking ball. He never has a name or a lion or anything like that. No cool guy cool guide. Number cafeteria guy that should be in the credits with whatever his name is as cafeteria. Yeah. And and I mean what I think this guy. No, I think this guy just like hangs out in the cafeteria way. Like looks for fights that are breaking out or little arguments. Do you want to send something ironically to them? To the office to I guess if you're working cafeteria. Nasa, indisp- ace beer, not terribly smart. Is that the idea or you're just getting a job? Sure. Which also fine. I'm not bashing cafeteria. Also, find not to get a job. It's also find that out there. Well, actually. Knows looking take that you fucking as looking who. This dude is because he's he's just like a familiar character actor, I guess the guy plane this waiter Steve Monroe, also another one of Chris cabins favorite. Clint Eastwood movies jersey, boys. Oh, yeah. Wow. I think he's been in a few. Stuff. Steve does he played jersey? He plays boys. Plays berry Belsen, Mary Belsen. Is that a straight saying like is that like the Broadway show, Chris? Yeah. It's the actual thing. So they're just seeing throughout it's like a musical. No. It's not a musical. But like they're doing the performance. But yeah. But that's what's knowing about. It is like I wanted that movie to be a movie music, and it's just a drama where you see them performing the songs. Fru fee, if you know what y'all do musical Aitken opin, oh dance. I will say about the firmly on the ground. You're going to be sad at a diner? And then you go and sing that song about the Hooker around that sit. I'm playing Frankie Valli. I love your bay. All right. What are the words? What don't say it, I famously quick this in the move. This is weird shit. This guy. This Steve Monroe guy apparently on top of appearing in over one hundred fifty film television and commercial roles podcast. He's a practicing psychotherapist. Discussion. Visit this you should he might be able to finally crack that whatever's going on over there. So as it's going on. Marcia gay harden, Taibbi Jones, kind of become an item which I feel like. Cutting. Marcia gay harden, speaking of our chicane hardens therapist like she comes in with this new haircut therapist. Fuck. What's going on? I met a new man. First of all, he's at work shit. Second of all he's ninety one years old, Mary exactly ideas cancer. Yeah. Exactly. And you know, she's like they're flirting. There's this scene where Clint Eastwood like teases him teases her going locker room and his dick is hanging out. All right because he's like, yeah. Yeah. You can go in post. His cleary says a good look at the pit and the pendulum. Yes. She walks in man. It's fucking everybody Wang Chung tonight. Hey, look. Hey. Hey hawk. I just wanted to get her get her acquainted with your droopy ball at is the number one thing I forgot Halsius wife died. I think she did. Yes. Because then they go on a date. Here's the thing. You want to fuck your grandfather? Go right ahead. But the problem with it. Recommended a man like a guy old enough or? You were professionals a closed course, exactly. You wanna go? Fuck it guy old enough to be your grandfather. Go right ahead. But the problem is, you know, you you gotta take fuck seventy years of baggage because he's talking about. Yeah. I remember this one crazy town momentum away, and like he's almost crying. And he, but it's the gnashing her face. I remember one time I took a shot at FDR. It is a great. And I mean, great meet cute where he's talking about. He's telling her this story where like he had a crush on the most beautiful girl he'd ever seen and they were at the fuck and state fair, whatever the fuck and some guy that he hated was like making moves on this chick. And he says, yes. So I'm going to a fiberglass shit house. My friends all bullied me into going over there and pushing it over and he basically says he knocked over this fucking toilet. Porta potty? Then he heard a woman screaming, and it was this lady who then he somehow went onto marry. Not going to happen. That's a hard conversion fully into marriage. This story more shoot on you're gonna marry me or put and this story about how he fucking pushed toilet over and locked woman in the bucking shit coffin causes. Marcia gay harden and be like, you know, what let's let's start making out. But it's not even that because that he's she must be it full ever met. And I'm just ruined for the rest of my life. Let me just keep pushing my face into you until you kiss me back. This weird haircut. Do anything for you gusting and then around now, they go on Leno, right? Because this is everybody the dude photographs them running, and it's gets the press. They're calling them the ripe stuff. That's right. That's fucking crap. Rotten stuff. Yeah. Exactly. The row it in the trash already be like mid to late twenties is probably right because you're gonna oldie stuff Teep. And this carpet NASA. Princeton the carpet is just literally just as the garbage this. They're running. And this is what Al Gore becomes a presence. Not really. But it's just like, oh, no the president's gonna find out. I don't know. I just kind of loved the idea of gorgeous being a shadow in this movie. Why what's happening? All right. Doesn't bother me. None. Yeah. I'm not going to contest this election. Nothing battle happen. Thanks. So. Yeah. One of the things in this next montage of them being awesome. Is that go on Jay Leno? And that's just a delight. Isn't it? You're reminded that Jay Leno exists. It's always trouble. When that happens, and this isn't extended fucking clip. It is insane. It's like leno's in this movie for like five minutes, at least feels it's way too much, and is really important can't have people. I had who's the lady bang who's the lady Meg, I'm Jay Leno, usually turn you off. Anyway. Now, I'm really Chris. What is what is done Sutherland say? Oh. Oh, that's me. You know? It's just a women. Don't have any idea of the propensity for multiple org. End this orgasms or. You know? Can we cut to commercial? We still do that cut. Now. This isn't live, right. 'cause I'm gonna go throw up. I'm stuck with this rock face guy. And the guy with the big ball. Basted Gerson call me that to you. And it's also during this television appearance where I felt the most embarrassed for anybody doing anything in this movie 'cause they're on the tonight show. And who is watching course, Marcia gay harden, this her bent saying with a big bowl of popcorn jangling like a child. What the flying fuck is any of this? It's so she's supposed to be a professional woman of science who works at NASA. And she's like Tiki. Oh, he said orgasm. She's a high school girl watching Corey hayme fucking tonight show. It's like the sleep over the fuck and pink ladies have in Greece. But as you've got the same haircut so that works out. I'm a beauty school dropout. And I went to NASA. Yeah. I mean, I don't understand what she likes these people so much or wants to fuck Tommy Lee Jones, maybe the characters just that lonely. She's like these guys are talking to me. That's right. 'cause like maybe like Cromwell nothing. Courtney bans absolutely doing. All right. Start. Well, he's the most jacked one of them for sure. To work every day under that piece of shit. Bob Gerson, maybe Bob Gerson is sabotaging dates. I think everyone's life. He's a malicious force. Restaurants in saying, there's an emergency comes running. Tall. The movie telegraphed that Bob Gerson fucking committed high treason. Yeah. Maybe yeah. He took money from the Soviets. Jio wouldn't mention monitoring his very defensive at this fictional character. Because just because the KGB finds out what you're doing doesn't make you know, so moving on the basically, the the the stuff shirt white guy. Ethan the yes, Ethan like is trying to drill the info at of. Clint Eastwood is it why? Well, actually, we should talk with the roadhouse, which I like a lot. Oh, yeah. Which only because like it's like, they're all like, they do this whole thing where they're they're doing the the weightless thing that the speed what do you call it there, the gravitron thing, but not really aperture on another thing that goes in circles to make you feel the g's and they're like really timely Jones. Clint Eastwood are trying to do it for competition as they always do. And this is the movie having Alzheimer's again. Because both Don sudden end James garner the same fucking joke, which is like really takes the wrinkles out. And then like oh Ryan James against later learners. Wow. Look a lot younger that way. I just fucking hurt at you. I think Sutherland designed this kind of ride there. See here's the thing though. It should be thing. Where like whichever one of them says it I turns around to the one that says the second goes, I just made that fucking hearing aid fix. Exactly, honestly, just spike. The camera. To say to the audience, isn't this terrible. The. Is to I one to pass up by the drinks. Right. And now they're fighting over like who passed out I in this roadhouse, and they go to the switches who would you go to who would you go to bed with and she's like who'd you bring home, and she's like what the fuck good retirement home. That's a sick burn by this bar maid. I looked who would you have sex with it. And this guy I mean, like beef head bullied he gets up like, hey, could you stop bothering, my friend? And they're like, what are you talking about? You you tough guy. No excuse having a private conversation. That is always the worst. When you some asshole is like yelling drunk in a bar, and then be excuses. I was having a private conversation. You're right this this looks like the bully figure is completely in the right shouldn't be asking some random waitress who would she have sex with? What is sure to call him tiny by my friend. Here's a shit all the time and really really pragmatic about it. Maybe Andrew can confirm this. I'm ninety percent. Sure. That's Bobo from double drag. I think you're totally right. I think he's and escape from LA as well. Huge do the gag should be he's fucking with them. But no, it's like could you stop bothering my waitress friend would actually play if it was like a normal looking guy say because he has to be an asshole looking fucker a leather fuck invest. Yes. Yeah. But then like it ends up. Like, Tommy Lee Jones tells Clint Eastwood like, hey, man. Like if this guy knocks you block off, then you're not going to space. Yeah. Sure. So why don't we just beat each other up? Sure. Van fighting each other definitely Bobo, by the way. Siding. But so the next day, you know, they have black guys or whatever. And then finally this guy is like you're not going to space Clint Eastwood because Bob Gerson said, no. And then that's what Clint Eastwood burst into Bob Gerson office closes the Skype chat with fucking Al excuse me. Oh looks like the internet went down. So listen, this is how we're gonna get the water levels too. Oh, no. It's ruined. This is awkward. I can hear you can't see you. I can hear your shit talking me. I could just see keys to wordy wordy. Listen up a race still on here. My pants are all I'm ready to go. Bob. I can't believe I got stood up on my sobbers six day to squirrel. Char- Mander here. So Cromwell's like first of all you just hung up on the vice president second of all yet. You're not going to space because Tommy Lee Jones has fucking terminal prostate cancer. Visit everyone gets to go to space, but time Lee, Joel right? The national celebrities now, I'm krummel doing a southern exit. Why? And like so this is when. Jones eight months to live apparently operable it cetera. Right. And Eastwood is basically the deal. That is struck is. Like, okay, originally was only supposed to be what's that, dude? Kyle James even Ethan was supposed to go. And then he's like, all right. Listen just lead Tommy Lee Jones, like common, hang out. We can bring Courtney b vans. He can be the other dude. But Tommy Lee Jones gets to ride. But now, it's even worse than that. Because it's like they have this conversation. And like, I'm not gonna let you get Misao. The dream on me old little old Tommy Lee Jones. And then Marcia gay harden goes up. She will he pass the physical aside from the cancer. And I'm like, oh, I missed that. That's failing the physical. You know, what having terminal cancer think about it that everything, but the failure? So you remember that part Nepal there based on actual events where carry Sinise couldn't go because you didn't get the measles vaccine. This guy's got terminal fucking cancer on top of being eighty years old it's pass fail. And if you take the failed. Past. Yes. Well, actually, if you don't pay attention to the cancer has passed everything else. Honestly, though. I mean, they gotta go up next week. What's the worst that could happen? Anyway, it's true. You could get more kids. That's true. I mean, you know, what cancer can't take zero point the risk is very low in about what twenty minutes, the new king of the world. The cancer to the youngest healthiest look. Meanwhile, again, may I point out garner melting the entire movie Immelt again looking for anything to do. He's like, you know, I wish I was melting. They give this doctor gives fucking Donaldson. These really stupid sunglasses where the rest of the movie. Yeah. I don't really know what they're supposed to she's burger paradise fucking. They do per Oakley. They look like shit. You would see if I compare it. Head convention also known as Jimmy Buffett. They've got the connector on the back. Yup. Exactly. And they're like the neon is thing Bret the hitman Hart. Put someone in the sharp shooter sharp shooter. Anyone go to space and now the movie totally change. Wait. I'm sorry. You're right. But there's one before we fucking leave earth. They have to squeeze in one more s kissing moment is the for them are walking there on the platform the walking to the shuttle, and there's like a NASA directing them, and he's like right this way generals. And Clint Eastwood goes, we're not generals, and the guy goes, I'm just saying like, it ought to be just what shut them up and tell them where the space craft giving the side from Jay Leno and the cover of USA today when did America fall in love with these old people that that was just one montage too many. There's also training sequence where Tommy Lee Jones can land the shuttle using no computers, right kanobi tells me how to do it. Yeah. Courtney Vance like no one could ever do. I. And then after he doesn't the other dude is like that's impossible as well. I am the greatest that ever was ever is. And never will be. Suck it. Grow them in. I mean, so they go into fuck it. Sure. Liftoff man, we got it. And like the movie totally changes like entirely entirely right after William defame who speaking of changes is magically on their side after hating them. The whole time aerospace will never be the day. Oh god. Space will never be the same on. I'm more fucking horse teeth gum his mouth is unsettling. I can't even with this, man. It's a really he should've played the joker, actually. Yes. He looks like Morton Downey with these like nineteen eighty-two Batman, the joker William vein for sure look Bill, we need somebody to say the tagline. I don't know. Who is it's going to be exactly around here is also the first kind of clue that Cromwell's crooked because racer Bauges like pissed off that the old guys actually made it up there to which Cromwell replies. Don't worry about it. Our boy is up there with them. Yes. No kids. Look that just means don't worry. There's a young man who says it leaning over fucking whispering to him. Okay. So you think that one of these kids is Soviet agent that like twenty five. We just on the con- on it. He knows that. It's a nuclear whatever. Ethan goes up there. And he's like, oh, yeah. It's right there. It's what I expected. Hey, Clint could you not come fuck? Always. Oh, oh. Invite Bob Gerson side. Fucking little rat. Cisco was always in bed with girls. And of course, you'd be with Gerson. I just think that if the Soviet Union hadn't fallen there would have been reforms and anyway it is fictional movie. Fictional history too. And this is what it turns into star FOX for a minute like a little bit. Yeah. I don't know why the spaceship becomes alive for a minute. That's a weird thing where like they're approaching it, and they're radar that they're using sets off with thing. And this thing it's like a fucking transformer like missiles, stick so stupid, look dumb. And it's like we pissed it all and he still good. How did my Xiuyin get into this show? Viet sent stood we addressed it already. Exactly stock getting your own movie at the movies, also. Mike grants. No, one visits it anymore. That's why we did it on this show. Come go. Visit your space cow. They don't officially address it though. Until like the last issue seen in the control room. It's all like mole the whole time. It's like mole hoga wool. And it's it is a nuclear activate say six nuclear warheads that are gonna auto launch at American designated targets if this falls into orbit or whatever, right. Also this begs the question. So like why let days old people be the publicity bonanza that there's if there's a literally a black ops mission. Right. You know what? I mean. Here's the thing. Also, this is the risk you're actually running because if this fucks up and these things blast off sure talk about fucking waving. The checkered flag for ageism. Dude. You can't let old people do anything. They've bombed American. Walmart anymore. Exactly couldn't they just blow this satellite out of the sky learned from film, like broken arrow. I want to say that's fairly. You could just shoot nuclear weapons, and they don't blow up. Space. Yeah. Superman real starting to the sun. Yeah. Throw everything their end game actually is just to explode it near the moon. Yeah. Throat to the moon. Ten. You can only do that once. Well, too bad. The second time you could feel the groans of the room. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm going for my brand casts. So yeah. For gas. Gas grasp port. So they get into this thing. And this is I have to say some stupendous Lee stupid imagery of Clint Eastwood in this jet back. Wow. Is this hilarious? None of them. It's just their faces Photoshop on the nothing. It's just like I never needed to see like here's what I'm used to seeing. Clint Eastwood on a horse. Yes. Clint Eastwood drive in a car. Clint Eastwood running next to a car. I never needed to see Clint Eastwood wears spacesuit. And this is really weird. Clint Eastwood going just to fuck in town Meryl Streep. Just right on that bridge, dude, right at the county line on gonna eat you like a corn on the cop. I'm I'm gonna eat you the way Devaney chewing that tried it. Merrill? Did you sleep with that son of a bitch? Bob girth. You know, I knew it will lean back. Here comes the bubble. Yelm flock. We're going to spit out at a little bit. All right. All right. On it. He he's float around here. And he's like look at that Italy down there. Let me spit on it. Wait, I'm wearing a helmet. Fuck. Fuck. Eat my own spit. Licking my helmet. I see the great wall China over there. It's rate could be sick. I'm going to piss on that wall. Oh, no. Oh, it's everywhere. There is a fucking moment. It goes through his helmet. Fucking half. Helmets yellow waiter Clinton, Frank. Did you shield go up a different kinda yellow? So this dude Ethan freaks out because Eastwood's like we're not touching anything. Which is the right thing to do your you're absolutely. And this guy's like, no, no, no. Because I'm in the pocket of fucking Cromwell and rage survey. Joe we gotta do it. I'm the straw, man. That's going to do everything wrong. And he cocks this thing up. It is one of the greatest space catastrophes in human history, pretty close to gravity, which is. Yes. Yeah. Big influence, of course. I remember talking about it. Oh, yeah. That's right. Lincoln centre talking about how much you love space cowboy. Yeah. Do that happen true story? I mean rates survey. I mean, like really rates are beige should be more sweaty than is God. Because if the rue skis found out about like gone, he's got the fucking capsule in his tooth, man. New government. They technically it doesn't really matter that was the Soviet. It's an embarrassment. It's an embarrassment to the. I mean is it the ad? It's an old fucking satellite. That's been up there. And they let it rot to listen, man. It's two thousand Boers Yeltsin is still president that guy's fucking drunk lunatic. Who knows what could happen who knows they'll skin him alive and leave him in red square who raised your Beijing? Absolutely. He brought disgrace to the Russian federation. That's normal in ninety six we hacked the Russian election to elect that guy by the way forgot about that. Yeah. So it's twenty sixteen was just retribution. True story, whatever like a dad, by the way. No, the dad, Ethan. Yeah. He's a lot. He's alive. He's fives for no he should die. I'll is he hanging at the back of the capsule when they he's no. They get rid of them later. He does die. He's still alive. Knocked Comber Vance's also got cut or something concussion isn't Sutherland like he's bleeding quite a bit. Here's always later. Go to cushion bumped his head and you got to cut by the wing. Says see it's shows you that young people babies all down and get hurt and win we win. But then true old men go and get the job done. Well, so what happens is that? The icon is limited satellite icon, and the fucking little white prick that's tach to it detached from the space garnell garnered does like a claw thing to get it at. I am I in this movie. Awesome. Her second plan, a claw machine. This is cool it detaches, and they have to do this ridiculous thing where they have to like go and like launch like Eastwood's goers jet pack and launch off and they got a fire rocket to stop the movement of this thing. So it doesn't go into the earth's atmosphere. There's no tension to this whatsoever. The earth is in peril at this point. And nobody gives a shit. No because you can tell they're still like fucking thirty minutes left to this movie. I wish I could show everyone on the internet, the the floating in space stuff inside the spaceship. Yeah. So cheap looking and Baco like, oh, it's what you do. If you pretend you're swimming in an improv guests or you like you hold on there like holding onto a bulkhead and bending their knees. Yeah. The best example of it is after this catastrophe. There's a little like onboard fire Tommy Lee Jones floats to get a fire extinguisher, but the shot of him using the fire extinguisher is literally him just standing there with a fire extinguisher, doesn't you would get blown back. Yeah. And but you can see his leg planted and the knees are bent. It's so bad looking. I found the one patches space where they're, you know, gravity. Yeah. Well, use that. So this is when Tommy Lee Jones, look, I'm gonna kill myself. Obviously, I don't wanna die of cancer for eight months, and I could save the world which is in peril. At this point. He's such an eagle maniacal mania. You know that like, of course, this suits him. He does point out. He doesn't wanna get cancer treatment. Because he saw like eat away at his wife, and she was suffering. And he doesn't want to go out that way and Marzio hearts. Marcia gay harden therapist, fucking, of course. He space. Oh, awesome. Wow. Sixth time and ten years that happened. You got a real pattern heart. I really I really like having more business usually. But this this is just too much. This is going to be two years with you. Fuck marcia. No more new haircuts. I'm not allowing no walks. No auks. Walks. So yeah, he's gonna sacrifice himself in what they're gonna do is because there's like a Nuff juice in these propellers or whatever these propulsion systems to push them out away from the ship, and they're going to send the shit just into space and the hope for Tommy Lee Jones is he can crash land on the moon. Hey, but again, this should be something. That's like kind of explained earlier man always wanted to be on the moon moon up. There was wanted to blow up the moon. Sons a bitches armed six nuclear warheads. Will you're right though. Because Tommy Lee Jones whole thing is like he just wants to go to space. It's should be because this'll be an awesome like twilight zone thing he wants to go on the moon. Be careful what you wish for time. I it should be a hate tides. I was wanted. Blow up the moon. I heard this caramel. I hate it. When the water goes out should always stay in see about this cheese. I keep hearing about just sitting in mud so he just fucks off and he's just done good lives right out. And there's no like Armageddon ask kind of like, well, I want to talk to Marcia gay harden for. Oh. James Gardner should say a few words. Like Sutherland and garner doing the best with the scripture the Ono. He's going kind of Irish goodbyes this movie absolutely does. And it's fucking hilarious imagery, though, because Tommy Lee Jones is literally strapped to the front of this thing. And it says blast off like he's stuck to the front of a train can ready to go to space mountain. I wanna see the nuke go off. I wanna slow seeing like Jupiter and beyond the Infinity. Yes, that would be an older, man. They don't bro any foles. No. He would have to go the other way. Right. He gets in the bedroom and he like ages backward. I'm a baby. Now, I'm Benjamin button. It would be so much better. If the twist of this was that they Clint Eastwood finds up the bout the nukes, and he goes crazy, and he's like family, Bob Gerson this way. Nukes. All right. Wait, five of the nukes can go the sixth one. All right. Hey, hey, Cromwell. What's your ad? Soviet new kits? His New Jersey. Tell your lady friend to leave the office that day the nuke. Succumbed. He's dead. So he's dead. And now there's like one more. How do we land the ship? There's fuck this. There's some whatever stuff there's enough fuel to get back, but not enough to do what they referred to as a return, burn or something. Like there's that misfire stuff to computers, dead obvious. Who trust them computers? No more. So probably written by some Japanese. Yikes. Basics van Clint Eastwood stars in racist. Astronaut I shake I made my problem. Pretty clear. Well, he's he needs to finish up the slur trilogy. Right because it's grand jury. No. I did like. Yikes. For me. It's a movie then the mule, right? There's a lot of he's saying a lot of slurs in that two one more to go. I know I guess it's the big one. The good there. Could he stood stars in the big one? Yeah. You know, this talking about him in front of a white screen like there's no trailer. We can't have an actual trailer. Given the toys trailer. No, one agreed to be in this. So they're all CGI creation. It's just a three hour version of the intro to black clans. You know, what I'm doing this huge? No somehow still getting Oscar though, so whatever and he's so basically as they're going back into earth. Garner is co pilot at this point and gardeners doing Jack shit, and then like Sutherland's of the back of the spaceship. This is when he he this is the part of the mood. It doesn't make any sense there landed a cart. They're they're coming back in they reenter the earth's atmosphere. It's safe enough for fake Brechin Meyer, which is as in character and Courtney Vance to be just, you know. A jetted parachuted to where into safety. Why does everyone why lend this broken spaceship to begin with everyone just go outside the back? Yeah. I think that's the thing where it's like crashing planes. Was hawks. John not mine. What's to landed? Hall beat them this one last time. He's a garner. You Sutherland like you get out after those guys then garner goes, and I'm gonna land it by myself 'cause he just wants to die at this point. I think that's the thing. He's just gonna like nose dive right into the where's Bob curse. Pentagon left to do. So they refused to abandon the team, though sense. Why why the spaceship has? No. Meaning if they can leave successfully you can leave success, right? But beat host because Eastwood refuses to Jack this time the two of them. Alfre Woodard this part to blow up the dam ship. That's James Cromwell. But oh shit. Right. Who do be I don't need to remember that? That's used. Yeah. It's great. Great busy star Trek's. I think oh, maybe bold choice. Really I contact and we'll wwl AM. Well, yeah. Maybe on the next this level, by the way, we've a Star Trek. Patriotic, we go very good. So he lands it just and he leads it very similarly to the way timely the exact same thing. He's fucking saying. The things Tommy Lee Jones is saying when he lands the simulator. I'm ripping them off. Hey, slow Joe in the back row. You remember exactly dude it land, and like everyone applauds this is to your point like Bob Gerson goes to the press. I always believed in Frank team. He's the best one of them on like, he's taking credit sort of. But also like he should go to the Hague. He definitely should. And there's a whole thing. Like, this is what I'm talking about is there's a whole exchange where it's a little before this. But it's like, oh my God, James Cromwell. I think it's like, Marcia gay harden. It's like how did this technology get in this Soviet thing? And raise your Beijing. Like it's called out at this point. And it's like, oh, it was stolen or something. Like that from James. Cromwell's office and Cromwell like very flimsily is like, well, it's the first dumb hearing about very clearly that he's either in on it or he knew about it should report. It didn't say by me. I mean like there's gonna we won the Cold War. Let bygones be by. There's crayon drawings all over the hallway wall and the two brothers. Like, he did it. So that we just cut to Eastwood and his wife they're staring up at the moon. And he's what do you think harks up? A moon cheese. She goes out. Do you think he made it? Oh, yeah. He made it, and then it's like bottom, and I was like is this Franks and I'll kill me dead. And we get your flavor to the moon, and it's just like him just chilling out dead on a on the mood Ed on the moon, and you can see this is what's fucking creepy though is like you can see where he landed. There's definitely like crawl tracks footmarks and whatnot. Because I think what you're talking about. Actual you talking about the cyanide capsule. That's what he did. He fucking every aspect of his side on can really. Yeah. What? Yes. People don't starve to death the space alien crate. Specifically ticket by Haley learn this when you were working at NASA. And I know he's fucking Hulu documentary. First of all I saw well, I will say what I'm getting this from is from the film contact. Oh. Continue to contact with the alien start talking about Hitler's bite into your side capsule. I saw documentary about how the moon landing this faked. One called under the may sonic Boone which had a theme song. Under the may sonic moon. Filmed by STAN, Liku Kubrick. Rules. Mason's the free mate? Totally. I was trying to grill that Mason after the live show in Philadelphia that came out to it. Right. Our national treasure show, which is lost sadly. But he claims that there was no mysterious day black magic, no government. Well, they would say that wouldn't day. Yeah. He's not just gonna tell some nor me piss ant fucking secrets. I've been trying to contemplate if I should join I wanna get you can join to really know at that body. Lee. That's that's worse than moon. Ten. But like the way they reveal it to I think he bit bit the. Then he just started what sucks either way. Yeah. This dude died on the moon. But like you see like he sat down facing made him. He was looking towards earth and just died. That happens to me. Here's the thing. No one's ever going back to the moon. Anyway, the Nassar's is to get slashed. Yeah. Jacket it before I go, man. Just one one last one for the road or you go to the moon, or when you're on the I'm on knowing you wanna look at the fucking mood. I didn't do whatever I want, go aliens giggling. Crap. I guess I'll eat it. All. Dudes have jerked off on the moon for sure like Neil Armstrong. Like that camera went off. Once step for manual. We're good down. We're or reorient one giant squirt for Neil kind. Well, you have to practice to get your arm out then back laminated pornography as well. Looking clinical government. Look hawk. You have to be able to look out of your finder year. I mean, it is just such a morbid fucking images though, and this stupid old man space movie at the blast shield dance. I want to see him bleeding from the I. Yeah. Exactly. Crying blood like his fucking face guts moored. He should've take in helmet off. Due to. Yeah. Out take the cyanide calf. Or you know, what you cut to the moon, and he's not there, and then you pan further out and suddenly he's on the event horizon. Speaking of bleeding from your equal setup veterans to Tommy Lee Jones. Hey, buddy, Lawrence O Sam Neill look out in that room. Sam neill. No, hey, hold on isn't the hell raiser movie. What the hell what is this ship right to my mother-in-law's? Isn't there? Another not Brechin Meyer in that movie to probably yeah, I know you guys Brigham Meyer. That's the end of this dumb movie would anybody recommended? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's better left forgotten better left left on the moon. Comey. Jimmy. Took a no that you get. And then somebody slips you twenty happy birthday. No, it's a no happy birthday. No grandpa. Did you forget my birthday. Aw. Twenty dollar Bill. Yeah. No, this these this watt of Eastwood, I don't watch any of them. I know you would. All. The thing that we didn't really I think highlight is it's two hours and ten minutes long. It's insane. That they allowed this to be this long movies. Yeah. It's like it's four movies is basically for movies TV showed said. Yeah. I would recommend if it's online somewhere. I didn't check. If you could check out the Jay Leno. But other than that. I'd say no as well. It's pretty dull even though at the time. I think it's like seventy eight percent on round tomatoes or something. It's pretty well received our correctly. It was on people's top ten lists of the year. Oh, my God two thousand the cashiers just cinema or that was the one sided by. What did you say the cashiers to cinema Kiei? I know Joe key Wediat. Okay. As long as you know, what it's actually called because that would be a do cinema real dad error, right? I'm sorry foam comment. I was also calling cashiers before because Jack please with that list. Yikes. It was number nine on their list on this. God that's fucking this. What the French are jokes? They think they're all already. But they're not they do love Jerry Lewis. That's pretty embarrassing. I would not wreck. Commend this movie. I'd rather take a ride on the fifteen seventeen to Paris. I'd rather fly with sully whether get shot in the head by Americans neighbor all of these movies. I fucking hated also. But like this. It's just embarrassing. And like, I'm a sucker for Clint Eastwood acting in a movie. Yeah. And that is why it should be of no shocked, you guys you look at the release year of this movie. I saw this in the theaters I think I did too. I was like I rolled up to the theater, and it was like, well, that's the next thing playing. Yeah. And it was like, oh, boy Clint Eastwood, I know him from TV broadcasts only like here's my chance. And I will admit it to you guys. And everyone listening at home fucking bought it on DVD. Cried at the end. No, no, no. But this was definitely like the if I saw it first. And then noticed it was four sale at a best buy you're coming home. With me buddy space. Cowboys DVD. Get in my car. Chris. Did you see the what was it the five eighteen? Whatever did you see what did you think? It's interesting. It's not very good. I didn't sit. So I think it's I mean, the casting thing I actually think it's pretty interesting cast actors. Yeah, I think it's more interesting to watch that like a genuinely short bus, which I would love to see Clint Eastwood's shirk buzz. I would love to see Clint Eastwood watch the first short. Wait. What am I stuck to this chair reversely James camera? Mitchell's the fifteen seventeen. Quite. John cameron. Mitch John Cameron Mitchell, I wouldn't recommend. But I guess, you know, if it's on television. There's worse things than have been broadcast hangover. It's quiet. It's certainly quiet. Dude. You won't be laughing. You won't be thrilled. Even the launches a little quiet. It is very quiet. You can fade in and out of this one to really even during the fucking nuclear missile thing. It is dull is dog shit. Yup. Yup. Dulles dog shit is the final. Remarks about this movie. I guess that is space Cowboys directed by Clint Eastwood himself. I just realized at my notes, I typed Clint Eastwood. College. Oh, great. How back in high school? That's not by name. 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Barry Sonnenfeld

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Barry Sonnenfeld

"Prepare your is humans. Happy sad confused Begins Today on. Happy said confused. Barry Sonnenfeld reflects on a story life and career. Hey guys I'm Josh Horowitz. Welcome to another edition of happy. Sad confused. Yes we're soldiering on guys. We've got some more exciting conversations that we have banked before the world changed not for the better not for the better. I am anti what has happened. Let me be clear. I know it's a controversial stance but yes I like I said in the last podcast. I definitely feel like happy. Confused is important for me and hopefully important for a few few of you guys and yeah we're soldiering on this conversation with Barry Sonnenfeld one of my favorite Just like characters. In the Hollywood industry. was recorded literally right before the shit hit the fan. This was this just when it was starting to kind of the signs. Were there we were all starting to get a little bit uneasy and I think we recorded it on the Monday of the week. Where like the President gave the address on Wednesday in the NBA closed down Wednesday so about forty eight hours before really went bad and south. So he's probably the last guest. I'll have in person on unhappy. Second fused for quite some time sad to say but as I've alluded to earlier and on on twitter etc Happy second fused is continuing. I have cracked the technology. Even though I'm not quite what I'm I'm pretty much more. Onlin it comes to tech but I figured it out. So we're we're already started recording things and Yes happy second piece is going to continue with Virtual conversations that URL different but still fun and interesting and informative and a good for any of you film TV Pop Culture Geeks out there any folks that have come to appreciate whatever the hell this podcast is anyway. This conversation is one of our last two as I said recorded before the The Shit hit the fan. So Barry Sonnenfeld. If you're a film fan you know. His Work. His careers fascinating. He began as a cinematographer working with the Cohn. Brothers on their most. I mean they're first three films which were hugely influential and remains so but simple raising Arizona and Miller's crossing he He quickly relatively quickly started the segue into directing his own films has feature film debut was with the Addams family and his filmography is is pretty impressive. As as a filmmaker addams family addams family values. Get Shorty men in black of things like wild wild west which he has amazing stories about even more so than the career is Barry. Sonnenfeld is a character. He is a neurotic. His new memoir is Barry Sonnenfeld. Call Your Mother. Memoirs of a neurotic filmmaker The book is really fun and entertaining and great diversion. If you're looking for something to distract you from what's going on outside your window. Yeah I highly recommend it. And he's like I said he's he's a character is a New Yorker. He's a neurotic he is. He is familiar to me in many ways and most importantly he loves movies and he's made some great ones. So this conversation is fantastically candid. He pulls no punches. We'll go anywhere you want has some amazing stories about some of the biggest names in Hollywood and we go into all in this fantastic chat. Yes back in my office which I sadly won't see for a long while or IP Joshua's office but yeah. I hope you guys enjoy this conversation with Barry Sonnenfeld. Please remember to rate review and subscribe to happy. Sad confused. Spread the good word because we're going strong continuing. I'm really excited for what's to come in the future and and yes hopeful for humanity. We're GONNA come out of the skies we definitely will. It's it's GonNa be a tough few months to say the least but there's hope out there anyway. I hope this is a nice little distraction for you guys. This is my conversation with Barry Sonnenfeld. I'm such a fan of your work and I've always have been an. I'm excited about this memoir. This is always been the plan. Was this like in. Life's goals at some point. I'M GONNA put pen to paper. I was so nervous about you. I already nervous that. You're you're shiny jacket is making too much noise whenever you whenever you change your your t-shirt only. I'm weirdly. No I'm a visual list. I I'm very interested in sound okay. That's so much better. Okay Okay yes okay now to your plan and the idea doing a memoir. Here's what happened. I've lived in unusual and interesting life and I live now with my wife and telluride Colorado our neighbors Jerry Seinfeld USA hear horrible stories about me trying to direct men in black three and the studio interference and producing interference and one day. He came over and said you know. I think you'd really enjoy doing stand up and I said aren't I too old to do stand up and he said Oh. Yeah you're way way too all. You won't make any money doing it but you should try it and instead I wrote my memoir which is sort of a safer way. I still can get people to laugh but I don't have to be there watching them not laugh if they don't like and you get to perform you do the audiobook yourself. You didn't call and Will Smith to do the audio actually I did call in Max Greenfield. Who is sort of like my good-looking d'appel Ganger but the the publisher has Schadt said now. Now we really want you to do it. But here's a problem. We're going to need an audio glossary because when you hear me say poor you're thinking something that comes out of a pitcher and I'm thinking that's what dogs have at the end of their legs. They have horns so I was going to be a disaster but it turned out well and I think the audio book is pretty funny so yeah now to some out there. You might seem like an exotic creature but I have to say Barry. You are familiar to me a we do. What made you. I grew up in New York. We both were born on April first. Barry no we suffer from that affliction. Well it's good and bad as you know the good news. Is Everyone remembers your birthday. The bad news. Is You get beautiful boxes of Godiva chocolate but each one is half eat. So that's the best well. Congratulations jokes ever end. Because they haven't quite ended for me at my advanced age well even more advanced I will be in a few weeks Sixty seven and now no. They never get old. They always have been right but they never stopped. But everyone remembers your birthday. There you go. Yeah so let's talk a little bit about your beginnings because it clearly has like for anybody. Your childhood makes an impact but for you in particular it sounds like your parents clearly defined the neurotic filmmaker sitting before me today. Thank you. So how would you describe your parents to the uninitiated? Well they were both different versions of narcissists. Yeah my mother. My mother's narcissism was about being a martyr. I say her ability was her strength through weakness. The example that I give is the name of my book is Barry Sonnenfeld. Call your mother. It's based on a very true event. An early nineteen seventy. I was seventeen years old about to be eighteen and I was that the first piece concert at Madison Square Garden Hair Peter Paul and Mary Jimi Hendrix and I was supposed to be home at two. It was two twenty in the morning Jimi Hendrix was warming up in one thousand nine thousand six hundred people and over the PA system of course comes the announcement. Barry Sonnenfeld call your mother so first of all the amount of strength to weakness it would take to reach someone at the garden to get them to the person who could make a decision to get me to actually be page so the only reason that could ever happen of course is that my father was dead. Sure but he wasn't. The problem was it was two twenty and I was supposed to be home with two so now we being I stand up which announces to everyone I am Barry Sonnenfeld and what started in the blue seats. Cheap seeds in the garden but cascaded down towards the red and orange was and the garden is a genius chanting that Ari bad very so by the time I got to the phone. I'm weeping uncontrollably. Is Dad dead? No what's wrong. It's two twenty. You'd be home at two. But did they tell you? The concert was still going on while. Yeah but they couldn't confirm you were there so that that's my mother. Did she become a less protective as you? She's still with us. See Your parents guide their about them. I'm sorry to hear that but I know we can get to that too. So did she get less protective as Steve Success? Like once you were I can establish like you had a career or did she did her. Her narcissism knew no bounds and I was well. Here's here's the thing. Many times in my career I said horribly mean things about my mother in a New York Times on David Letterman. I said that until he died. My mother could have been Vincent Gardenias photo double and I didn't know this but I had been pre interviewed. Letterman had a photo of Gardenia. I looked at the photo and I said well mom has more facial hair. Mom was still alive at the time but the worst one was when men in black came out I was a Newsweek had mentioned that I was sort of a winey neurotic guy as a complement. Of course in what you see is what you get. Why you see your lovely and I was quoted as saying that I would walk around the stage offering crew members four hundred thousand dollars to either get me fired off the movie or kill my mother so my mother reads as a Newsweek. And says you really wish I were dead and I said mom I promise you I would never pay anyone four hundred thousand dollars to kill you and my mother said. Thank you Barry. I love you too. Turns that you were the perfect. It'd be the on thermometer Mama. From the train this is your life store wish fulfillment. Yeah that's right. If only yeah but she died and then but that died in is late nineties he was around and I mean you you know. In addition to the very funny stories that are throughout this book. There's some serious stuff in there. I mean you talk about the abuse that you suffered. Well my parents being the narcissists that they were so they allowed my mother's cousin who we called. Crm The child might child molester to live with us for several years molesting me neighbor kids cousins of all sexes. Because if you're pre pugh bessant a child molesters e is an equal opportunity molester and and it's I don't make fun of it but here I am and and it's all fun fun fun games but not really but in my ninety s in his nineties I should live so long as they say I went to see my father and I said why did you let someone. Who's a child molester? Live with us. Let me sit barry. I have three reasons first of all. Don't forget back then. Child-molestation didn't have the same stigma has now that was number one. Then he said also don't forget I was having so many affairs and your mother was so depressed that I thought having Mike around would cheer her up also pretty Moronic but the third one and my favorite the one that made me go tilt and leave was when he said because you keep thinking maybe the parents didn't know maybe my parents but he said I never thought he was molesting you only thought he was playing with your penis. I wish point you go tilt see around. Thanks so we just have different definitions of things. Go our separate. We exactly topic right. How do you not repeat the mistakes of the previous generation? I mean while you're neurotic? You're clearly my is not what you're describing now. Do you have a family I do? Do I have parents yet showed. I don't actually don't okay all right. Well here's what you learn you. Hara ably become your parents you not to use value owned but I am like my father because my father was a salesman and I'm always like slapping people on her back. Come on let's do that. I'm so and my daughter or my wife was at some point. Say you're being like Sonny. Sonny was the nickname for my father. Sonny Sonnenfeld and I'm like my mother in that. I live in constant fear of all things. My mother wouldn't let me go to. She called it sleep away. School others called College. She said if I went away to a left home for college she would commit suicide so I went to Nyu for three years. And then when I was going to be a senior I thought wait. I could go away to another school and my mother commits suicide. Two Birds One stone. So I went to Hampshire for my senior year and mom reneged unfortunately didn't kill herself. Bot literally my daughter. Who's twenty six? I have two stepdaughters and a daughter with my wife and literally when she flies. Let's say from L. A. Asia. I have flight aware and I know our flight number and I put it in and I stay up all night watching her flight and I'll go wait a minute. There the middle of the Pacific and they just dropped from thirty seven thousand to thirty six thousand eight hundred feet. What's that about? What's going on on that plane? And the capacity of your mom to somehow get into the PA system on that plane. Text me exactly exactly so the obvious question that I think will probably be a running theme against the career stuff with you is. I've talked to many filmmaker here and most of them generally speaking exude confidence. It's like a big thing is Kinda like no you be the guy or woman that has the plan. Even if you don't have that now by all accounts you've succeeded with a different plan. How how do you? How do you kind of job that? Why does being a neurotic serve you? Well as a filmmaker. Well you know. I'm very accessible. And but I do have very very strong opinions. And I have very very specific ways of directing first of all the only thing first of all everything directed does is just having opinions answering questions. No prop guy when they give you. The Red Folder and agreed folder. Wants to hear you say oh. I don't care you choose. See you go the green folder and then on the day you realize. Oh Jesus a woman carrying the green folders and a green dress will never see the green folder I screwed up and then you say the guy. Hey do you remember he goes? I got the red folder. No problem so they but you have to make decisions you need to be strongly opinionated and all you need to do is to tell actress talk faster. No director ever has ever since press and Sturgis and Howard Hawks because I'm a comedy guy. Directors don't pace their movies on the set they try to pace it in the cutting room. And that's a wrong place. Editing is the enemy of comedy. Comedy plays into shot action and reaction cary grant in a bathrobe. Catherine have burned calling him Mr Bones. And that's not his name by what's funny is Catherine in the foreground chatting away and cary grant doing nothing but reacting right. That's comedy and to get it to work to get to to to work. People have to talk fast so all I ever do is. I'll say great. Let's just do one more way faster. The other thing I often do with throws people off. If you're two people in a scene after take I go up to them and say one of you is very good. You don't say what you don't say which one of them assume they weren't the good one and they get better and the third thing I do. Which exude self-confidence is direct from the saddle and literally I have now. I have to saddles for many years. I had a saddle that sit on sat on an apple boxes sat on a platform wheels. Right at first it had four wheels but it kept throwing me so no it has twelve wheels. Three in each corner and at the last year of a series of unfortunate events The the other executive producer Rosa. Lamb 'cause I kept saying I need a motorized saddle. Got Me one she. She bought a rascal. You know the things that like old people drive around your community took off. The seat had the special effects. People put a saddle on it so I've got a joystick and the thing would do you know like fourteen miles an hour so now I raise up to the actors and go one of you is very good and also you know. Director chairs are very uncomfortable. They're they're bad for your back but with a saddle you sit up straight. I wear a cowboy hat and a tie and boy do I get respect. Everybody does their own thing. Scott wore a suit SAM. Raimi's Ramey wears a suit your cowboy in the saddle but I believe Sam is unfortunately and I know Sam but you should check this out. I believe he's a trump supporter. That can't be I I will put money on it. Are you being serious? Makes you think less of evil dead now doesn't it? Yeah okay well. Let's go get the car. There's an trump supporters. I'm pretty sure about that. And obviously that collaboration even before you were director so out of your films could school at the time I believe right now. Oh you're out by Tommy Mitchell. We had nothing to do with film school together undergraduate and graduate. Got It so from what I gather. You met Joel. Coen at a party at a party. You guys end up collaborating on blood. Simple right an amazing piece of work. That's their first film and by all counts your first time on films. That was literally being the first time so who was taking a bigger shot on. Who Was it the cones taking a shot on you or are you taking shot on them or was it equal opportunity. We didn't know it was really opportunity. You know we were at this party. Everyone there was from dairy and Connecticut. Except Joel and me we Jews from the opposite side of the room sniffed each other out. We started to talk the movie and American friend by them. Vendors had just come out. Rubbing Mueller was. The cameraman did a phenomenal job. We were talking and he said Jell said my brother. Ethan and I just wrote this script blood simple and we're going to shoot a trailer like it's a Finnish movie and use that to get dentists and doctors and all that to to invest. 'cause a dentist can't read a script and say. Oh this is great and also Joe Nathan had never done anything so no one's going to say. Oh Yeah I trust you guys but was a trailer you can look at it and say. I'd go see that movie so Joe said we're GONNA shoot this trailer and I said well. I ONA US sixteen millimeter camera. And he said you're hired to shoot trailer not the features but we went out. We shot the trailer over several days. There are no actors in it just feed and bodies and bullet holes and all that it turned out great and a year later. We Raises Joel actually went to Minneapolis and got the Haddassah List. So he was seeing rich. Jewish women while Ethan and I were seeing doctors and dentists in New York. We apprentice of the trailer and literally the first say on the set of blood. Simple was the first say Joel Ethan and I had ever been on a movie set. I had the camera assists and come over the night before the show me where the on off switch was on thirty five millimeter camera but we all took chances together but we all took real had a very similar notion of that. We wanted to be very stylized and I think one thing I sort of help them with is. I'm an only child of Jewish persuasion. I wish I could be handsome and an actor but I'm not but I still wanted everyone to know that I was in the movie and if you look at the body of my work I'm saying that would quotes because it sounds pretentious The camera is more than a recording device. Whether it's blood simple raising Arizona throw momma from the train addams family. The camera sort of grabs the audience. And says I'm in charge here. Follow me I'm GonNa do weird things you know in blood simply do that shower where we track over the bar but does it drunk asleep under bar so we just boom up over the bar and back down again exponentially then next raising Arizona. Then you really kind of go for broke. It's I mean like wh Nick Cage. What did he say? He was like Channel Nine looney tunes cartoon character out or something. I mean yeah. Has that kind of manic energy to it and the camera's totally a character in the movie so we we had the blankie cam where I would lay on a blanket and be dragged across room whenever we're chasing dogs. We had the shaky cam which was a camera mounted on a twelve foot piece of plywood aboard JOE AT ONE END. Meoni other an era flex to see with a nine point eight millimeter lens in the middle and we would run and lifted up and over fountains cars up a ladder through a window and into Florence Arizona's mouth in one shot. And then then you fall the last collaboration. I guess was Miller's crossing a gorgeous movie just like I mean like and more classical in some ways it's still coen brothers. Sonnenfeld skewed version of that right gangster story but that was that's a good way to go out in terms of that that trip ticket. Three films you did with them. They're very different. And Raising Miller's crossing is my favorite movie I ever shot as the cinematographer in terms of my own work. It's a handsome it's beautiful. It's not wacky. There's not a lot of wide angle lenses and In New Orleans but it doesn't say nuance is supposed to be like any city. In America will gangster quality to really stands up so you transition into feature directing with the addams family and from what I gather was it Scott Rudin that essentially kind of gambled on you on that one so for good or for bad. He's a character. I understand. You never interviewed him. I've heard all the stories. I mean. He's well Scott. I love him and I wish you were dead. I'll tell you a quick story about so Scott. Had tried to get Terry Gilliam and Tim. Burton to direct addams family. When they both passed he sent the script to me. I was looking to be a director. I was very happy as a cameraman. I felt I could be in charge of my craft. He's sent it to me said read it meet me. Hugo's which is place in La in two hours and I grew up with. Detroit addams cartoons. Because you know they were in the New Yorker and they're they're up my alley because it totally visual and also the reader had to find the joke you know you had to scan the image and say oh he's got a para scissors and all of that guys so I said. Why do you want me to direct? And he said well all the good directors past thank you and he said I'd rather take a chance with a visual stylist with a hack comedy Guy Right. It was a nightmare was a lot of pressure through a lot. I fainted on the set. Yasser DP. We've lost our EP. Because he was so slow after ten weeks. We had to get rid of them. Get another one but we had a great the Owen reisman is one of the great ones. See and French connection. Yeah so impeccably cast to wral Julia Nanteuil can reach those three alone row. And ANGELICO were both Scott. And my idea. And Scott. Didn't WanNa Hire Christina Christina Ricci. He he liked this other girl. Who had hyper thyroid? Is that look like we're all? My Christina is so dark and wonderful here. Here's the story not in the book. Barry Sonnenfeld call your mother. I went. We did a shot wide. Shut the whole family. The door opens and they see faster for the first time and it was fine and went up to Christina. I said Hey Christina. That was great. But let's just do one more where you look sadder I sought and she's ten. I started to walk away. And she says Barry. Oh God this is going to be our US Christina. I can't look at her and I said okay. How come and she said well. Sadness is an emotion and Wednesday has no emotion. Some of Jesus. I gotTA SMART One so I said Okay you know what? Just look more morose and I walked back and she did a second take. She looks at her and I gave her an award when she was like thirty. And I told the story and I said to this day. I don't know if she knew what morose meant or didn't know but knew it meant something like sad and Christina. Took the award and said believe me. Barry I knew what Merola ten going on forty. Yeah and I for my money and bizarrely. It's actually been on cable a lot lately. I've been watching addams family values. Bits and pieces the camp Chippewa stuff has just like gold. It's one of the best comedy sequels out there. I think that one is it. True is the four. Is that you turn down forrest Gump to do that. One yes and no what happened was after addams family came out the head of the studio not the chairman but the president Gary Lucchessi loved it and said Look I. We have age scripts of this thing forrest. Gump I'm not sending you any script. It's no good. I'm sending you the book. I read the book and the character forrest. Gump is sort of an overweight guy who's really St- confederacy of Dante's so I wrote I call Gary. I said look. Here's the thing I shot big. I know hangs hangs would be perfect for it instead of fat guy. Let's just make him a a runner. And can I sent the hangs and Gary said can you send it the hangs? Yeah I send it to hang so I said look. You probably don't WanNa do it because it's another man child thing. It's similar big in some ways. Hanks loved it so now I have hangs I hire Eric Roth. We have the script and then paramount is. You can do forrest gump up. We want you to do Adam Sandler values. I I said Great. I'll do addams family vials and I'll do gump and the producer rightfully so said. I don't want to wait hangs could die. There could be another movie like forrest Gump. Hanks could change his mind. I want to go now and I don't WanNa wait for Barry and her husband was and who is chairman. A president of Warner Brothers. Canton said to my agent. If Barry Make says wait he will never work in this business again. Something original Hollywood never spoken before and my agent at the time no longer said barrier. You can't do gum you know and what I should have done was insisted on it producing credit since I did get hangs and I did get that script but life goes on that would have reports. But you've found other rewards. I found and I'm here with if I had done that. Maybe I'd never write this book and Barry Sonnenfeld Call Your mother. Maybe I'm here with you. I've been told to say the idol media trained very well very well. We can't go into detail on everything. Obviously get shorty comes That's an exceptional piece of work. Using I mean it was kind of Travolta at the height of his powers coming off. Poll Use Gene Hackman. Who's just for money like my favorite actor of all time at a great comedy actor because he never tries to be funny. So we'll get into this a little bit one man in black but like Hackman's one of those that has a reputation to he's a tough guy like not every directors got along well with him. Yeah did you get along well with Gene Hackman? Jim Is very scary. Here's the thing though. Here's the shock you you know you play a game like if death was not an option who would you rather drive cross country with the when I used to play on all the time with Joel and Ethan is if death were not an option. I would say to Joel. Would you rather have sex with Ethan or your mother and Joe would say well I gotTa keep working with these and so I guess my mother in which is a really good game. I highly recommend death is not an option. If you don't WanNa do the sex version you can do the WHO. Would you rather drive cross country guys? Okay if I had to spend the rest of my life only working with Tommy Lee Jones Gene Hackman or Robin Williams said surprise. Surprise is the one I would not wanna work with ever again is Robin so that was an RV. That was on our where he was at that time. Were just generally. It was two things one. It was where he was at that time. But I didn't know that at the time but Robin and I have very different versions of comedy for me. It's all about control and for him. It's all about jazz right you know. And that's very different ways of working and I think he bridled under my very demanding. This say it has written a little bit of like sort of like the reaction shopping as important as the camera. Yeah and like he was. The camera was right. It was that was the show. That's right you don't WanNa hire robin to do nothing but react. Yeah right so and then between gene and Tommy. My favorite of the three is Tommy. I Love Tommy. So how? What's the secret sauce? Tommy Lee Jones. Because the Anti. I've been doing this for a long time and I'll side of things and truly and this is not. This is an open secret. How would he is a he can be an asshole to a lot of people they perceive as that and I've never interviewed him and that's been a conscious choice because I don't WanNa experience what I've heard from other people. So why are you the fortunate one that brings out the Human Tommy Lee first of all accessible and adorable? What about you know if that's true and therefore you should try okay? Tommy suffers no fool right south of snow fools and doesn't want to be as stupid questions right. Here was the way I worked with. Tommy on the first black twenty weeks shoot twenty six months right the very first day and will was finishing independence day so for the first two weeks. I just had Tommy. I seen we meet. Tommy Lee Jones in Sonora Desert. He's interviewing illegal aliens and then this illegal takes off his disguise. And you see Mikey an alien who speaks in an alien language with arms and flippers. First Day of shooting first line from Tommy ever. He says to Mikey who is speaking angry. Angry Alien Language. Tommy says that's enough. Mikey put up your hands and all your flippers cut. Hey Tommy is going to be funnier. If you don't acknowledge that flippers are funny because you see you do this every day. You know he has flippers. So don't hit the comedy your Government Dish Your Gi. Your Jack Webb. You just say the lines. Nothing's funny and he stares at me with a pure hatred and for twenty weeks all I would ever do at Tommy. There were two things one is. I'd say Tommy Flatter. Don't be funny. Don't be funny. His agent called me said you don't want Tommy to be funny. You just want to be funny. I said George Burns's funnier than Gracie Allen. The reaction Shod gets the laugh. I was a deep when Harry met. Sally I shot the orgasm scene. I've been in that audience a hundred times and as funny as meg is faking an orgasm. And let's say you're at one hundred eighty. Ps You cut a decibels to billy doing nothing and the left goes from one hundred to one hundred twenty. Believe me Tommy is as funny as well. I think funnier only because he's not trying to be funny. No you hate Tom you. Hey Tommy I don't hate. Tommy I love Tommy Tommy. Hate me for twenty weeks. The movie's done you. GotTa show it to Tommy a week before the junkets so in the press. Ask them questions and the press at the question. The press constantly ask Tommy was how do you get? How did you get to be that funny? So Tommy loved doing. Needs views and Tommy's response God. Love him was the secret to comedy is stand next to will Smith and do whatever. Barry Sonnenfeld tells you so. I was redeemed after that it was perfect. But here's the problem with Tommy. All of our space guns the noisy cricket series five the atomised her their prop guns they don't make sounds right. Tommy for twenty weeks go cut. Tommy Tommy don't make a sound. We're GONNA add that in post time. He goes what I didn't make a sound and I'd go well and well would say Tommy. You made an Tommy loved. Will Tommy loved well so that was great and because Tommy got to start two weeks before well Tommy got to feel that will was visiting his right so I love Tommy. Gene Gene is very intimidated. I rentals yeah. Yeah talk about not suffering fools. He was tough crazy. So jumping ahead to wild west okay. I'm there I had Kevin Kline in here. We've talked about it. It's one of those things. Also that like the legend becomes bigger in a way where like if people forget also movie made a lot of money. Now it did it. Did it made a quarter of a billion dollars worldwide so off with some context but you also have another kind of crazy producer on that one. Yeah John Peters on that one yeah super infamous giant spiders in the ends of his movies at. He wanted one in the superman movie. That never happened to really. That's the story at least well. The problem with John is he wanted will to be drag and I begged him for me that there are two problems with that. Three problems with wild west their parts. I really like I really love the opening and fat. Can Candy's whorehouse and all that one is John. Peters who really insisted that will be dragon. I think it totally takes you out of the movie. It's not believable. None of us really wanted to be there to and this goes back to my theory of comedy. You never want to funny people in your movie. You Want Tommy Lee Jones. And Will Smith you want Gracie Allen and George Burns Gracie Allen. We had George Clooney and George dropped out late George. GonNa play augments and Artemis was designed to be the straight man. I'm sorry Artemis was designed to be the straight man and wills character. Jim Westwood was supposed to be funny and will totally subscribed men in black two. My theory of straight man funny man and I could not get Kevin not to be funny and after a week on the show will came up to me and he says well said a basil. You thinking what I'm thinking and I said Yeah you're the straight man and he said Yeah I'm the straight man and Kevin also felt he was slumming you know he was a great Shakespearean actor. Also we had Kenneth Branagh who is a great shakespearian actor so Kevin would come on the set in and say arose by Kevin. Just stand here and say so. It was it was also totally. I think mistake was a lot of people hadn't seen the television show and didn't understand. It was a combination of sort of science fiction and cowboys steam punk kind of thing before it was cool and also yeah and I also. I think this spider was too big. I think I should have made the spider twenty feet and not a defeated. I think it just took you out of the movie but there are definitely parts of that movie. I love and parts of it that I cringe at but I'm I'm I wouldn't be here with you today if I had done something else. So post men in black three spent a lot of time in recent years on the series on fortunate Venezuela which which is Great. Is your appetites. Have your appetites changed in terms of like? They're a lot of filmmakers that can handle tentpole kind of really complex special effects driven films that can combine comedy and action. Like you. Thank you do you want to do. More of those big scale blockbusters at this point I wanted to do streaming television really My three years in Vancouver on a series of unfortunate events with Neil Patrick Harris and all my favorite actors Patrick Warburton. Who's in everything? I do was perfection. I had never been a show runner before you know. the guy in charge of everything usually. There's a writer show. Runner rarely is our director showrunner. Net flicks was perfection. They really were. Their theory. Is Take your time. Hire the right guy but when you think you got the right person give them the power to succeed or fail or but don't don't give them responsibility without the power and Netflix. I you know I shot the first who episodes I sent them my cut rough cut. They sent me notes and I said listen. Do you want me to make all these changes or just the ones I think. We'll work or do you want to see all of them just to make sure. I've done them. And then that flakes creative executive assigned to US said. It's your show. These are our suggestions. Do whatever you want. If you don't think a suggestion works don't do it. I mean no studio has ever said that to me so it's GonNa be hard to go back is what you're saying. I mean to like sign up for a marvel movie where Kevin Feige as the ultimate. Yeah I yeah and also you know streaming the writing is getting so good get to do twenty in the case of a series of unfortunate events who is twenty five hours of television and also you know I had been hired to direct defeat the Jim Carey feature of a series of unfortunate events with Scott Rudin. Scott Rudin quit and I was sort of allowing paramount wanted to bring on another producer and I said that's fine. Bring on any producer. You want except Walter Parks so fire me the next day. Walter was the producer on the three men in black's. I always say about Walter. If we didn't work together we'd be really good friends. He's a great guy he's smart. He's funny but he just doesn't want to give up power and I don't want to give up power but paramount hired Walter and I was fired the next day which was very lucky for me because now I got to do in in twenty five hours instead of ninety minutes and it's so much better a venue for series of unfortunate events. One one more thing to say about that is. I had read the books in my daughter. I desperately loved the material and for me what I love about it. Is Daniel Handler? The writer of the books posit set children are smart and capable and all adults whether they mean well. Our villains are equally ineffectual. And that's my parents. I was going to say this is. This is your memoir. We've been talking right exactly. What's my memoir called again? Wait is it Barry Sonnenfeld. Call your mother. That's amazing. Thank you again. I've been media trained to Harley by so did you you mentioned Jim Carrey or do you think about actors that have gotten away that you've always wanted to work with like. I read that you were going to do a jetsons movie with Jim at one point like no. That's not true. Okay but like are their actors out there that are on that list of like I would gel with them. It just hasn't come. I would gel with anyone who who would be willing to talk really quickly. I mean I really miss. I wish I were around when Preston sturges and Howard Hawks I if I could work with cary grant and really our Martin cary grant is is George Clooney I was GonNa say yeah. Clooney is fantastic. He really knows where the comedy is. And where the comedy isn't and he's a great reactor also in terms of fast talking in a different kind of camp. I would listen Mazel with that too but I would also to Jesse Eisenberg. Who's been maybe the fastest talker on this podcast? I have so desperately tried to work with Jesse I had a script for years called Moist most favorite word in England. I was desperate for Jesse. He's also one of those guys. He can be very very flat and very fast. I if I could work with Jesse absolutely so get this out to Jesse on. So do you know what the next product is is it a streaming is scripted in line? That you're trying to. Maybe you know the thing about Hollywood is. It's all happening until it's not happening right so I I've been meeting with Lorne Michaels about a project for apple that I'm very close to doing and there's been for the last four weeks I've been told all your deal will be finished today right so you may read about it later today or never but it would be a six part series and it'd be a musical which will say that seems pro. Oh yes yeah so. That's kind of exciting for me. And it's written by Cinco. Paul who's only written movies that make billion dollars. He's he's written animated movies like despicable me minions and all those at secret life of pets so He's written a six part musical. Which is kind of fantastic. I'm very much hoping that that happens. Did you ever bring yourself to see the latest men in black or was it a little too? Klabin seen it. I haven't seen it yet but from what I hear violated a few of your rules that you've talked about earlier today. Don't be funny. Don't wing don't say anything. I saw the trailer I told one to shot of the two leaves and I thought they think they're in a comedy you don't want here's the other comedy rule. You don't want anyone to know they're in a comedy. You don't want the DP to know 'cause we'll be too bright right. The lab will make it too bright. You don't want to composer to know because it'll be slide whistles and xylophones. You don't want the actors to know so like wink at the camera. The director should know. They're in comedy. I always say if the scene is absurd. Just play the reality of the scene. Don't ever try to be funny. Finally Somewhat surprised to read that. Like I think someone asked you your favorite all-time filmmaker and I would have expected. You Know Brooks or woody. Allen and incited Kubrick. Yeah it's true. It's true weirdly. There are several movies of his. I've never seen so that might change nine movies all spread looking and by the way some of them. I didn't like and some I didn't see but there is no better movie ever made in the actress. Strangelove Yup except for about forty two seconds of George C Scott over acting for eighteen frames too long. But that's not his fault that's Kubrick's fall because he could cut out a little sooner but the men in black credits are certainly in a message to that. Well yes same guy. Pablo Ferro. Yeah yeah he did. The two atoms family did three men and blacks. And it's all because of doctor. Strange there is no better movie than strangely also part of the affection for Kubrick that he came out of photography. He had a little bit of your trajectory elite. He really knows where to put the camera. And also if you look at strangelove again there are scenes had go on forever without a cut usually would sterling Hayden and Peter sellars Hayden's sort of layer where he's got his gammy leg shot off and West Brilliant. Is You get to see sellers going. Yeah Ya as as you're learning about precious bodily fluids and all that the fact that you don't cut into close ups and allow the audience to find. The joke is what comedy is about now. Let's say Look I. Love the sturgis movies. You Know Palm Beach Stories. Close to my favorite movie. I love bringing up baby but for it's Kubrick's A. B. Mainly because of two thousand one space odyssey. You've seen that one. I think I'm still watching like nineteen hours long. It has an overturned so great is so. He's my favorite because boy. He knows where to put the camera. I always. I've said this before. I like to feel like I'm in safe hands like there's a confidence that it wasn't arbitrary. There was an actual perspective. What a lot of comedies are now becoming very arbitrary. They have three or four cameras they do sort of Improv. Listen Talladega nights was very funny but I couldn't. I don't know I don't know how to do that thing. Yeah you know the different kind of a sloppy. It's very funny just on my thing. Was the name of the book again Berry. Hey Have you noticed that I talk about forty? Db's louder than you do still sounded like we're actually sitting across from me. Spend millions of dollars on post on this. The normal human being. I was the book which I'm very proud of should be. I'm very excited. Thank you is Barry Sonnenfeld. Call your mother coming out March tenth. Some of these stories. You heard today but many that you haven't heard in that book Congratulations on it. And I'm so pleased that gave me an excuse to pick your brain for about an hour. Today I loved every second of this interview. Thank you and so ends. Another addition of happy side confused. Remember to review rate and subscribe to the show on Itunes or wherever you get your poke costs. I'm a big focus person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't shipped despite Josh.

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'Ad Astra' - Gary Rydstrom

Behind The Screen

19:03 min | 7 months ago

'Ad Astra' - Gary Rydstrom

"My Dad was a much decorated astronaut in history. I was twenty nine when he disappeared. Something that might come as a shock to you via follows experimenting with highly classified material. You threatening tire sources. We're counting on you find out what's happening. Today at skywalker sound talk with the legendary Gary Rights Drum who has won a remarkable seven Oscars and earned a total of eighteen nominations. This included Academy Awards for such classics as Terminator later to Judgment Day Jurassic Park. Titanic and Saving Private Ryan with additional credits including Pixar's toy story and finding Nemo writes writes from his spent his career. It's I walk sound where he was mentored by legendary star wars sound designer Ben Burtt today he took a break from mixing to talk with us about James Grace. Hi Fi film ad Astra which stars Brad Pitt. As Roy McBride. An astronaut on a space mission that will also involve search for his lost father played by Tommy Lee Jones writes from was the film supervising sound editor designer and re recording mixer. I'm Caroline Georgina. Welcome to the Hollywood reporter's behind the screen To Gary Thank you so much for joining us for. Let's start with the science behind the soundless movie with a research involved her Strategies that you spoke. Oh Pao with James Gray right. Well James Gregory says he tried to make it realistic looking so I did a little bit of research about things like what's the atmosphere on Mars like versus Earth. Would things sound like on Mars. We actually had recordings. Thanks to NASA. They have a lot of recordings of space travels. You can hear what some with that space stuff sounded like there's reference so yeah we tried to be even if we weren't doing truly realistic things. We tried to make the track for the most part be realistic and then snuck in kind of sounds that were more Subconscious but at the same time is a weird combination of realistic and kind of you've point of view subconscious subliminal sound so those two things are very different. Would you give us an example and the subliminal sound on a father son story and its Internal Brad Pitt characters. Very you know doesn't say what he means all the time so we have to get inside his brain. It was tom MM Johnson. Who Mixed with me is his idea to take dialogue of Tommy Lee Jones from later in the movie and loop it and turn it into these sound effects on the very beginning when we see Brad Pitt? We're actually hearing bits of dialogue from the future of the movie played at these kind of weird modern tape loops. They're trying to get inside Brad Pitt's head so we took a lot of Tommy. Lee Jones is voice was used for a lot of these tape loops and I would stretch it sometimes in the ambulances so simple thing like the tunnel roar of inside the spaceship as Brad Pitt approaching. Neptune is actually a bit of time. Ely Jones's this is dialogue stretched into an endless tone. We thought that it might have a subliminal effect. Brad Pitt's character is often alone in this movie. How do you convey that isolation through or the absence of sound well alone so you have even the the the sound of the ship? Kind of the creeks and the mechanical technical. All sounds of the ship get less as we get closer to Neptune. He's more and more loan so it does feel lonelier. There's nothing to comfort hammer to you. Know so it's a very simple bull as it goes along also one of the major motifs of the movie which is designed into it by James Gray was use of silence so you know when we cut outside for instance when we take off from the Moon You know where you're inside the spacecraft in these rattles and engine stuff we cut outside and there's nothing there is no atmosphere on the moon. Same thing when we're spacewalking when he's dealing with his father at the end there's no atmosphere so we hear breathing. Maybe some other stuff but the silence itself is he is his character who is fighting against loneliness so silence becomes kind of a key absence of sound in the whole movie. You mentioned the moten. Would you talk about how you did. The sound for that sequence including the chase while the moon Lunar Rover Chase was really fund. Because it's it's kind of like your classic car chase scene but next month mad Max with no atmosphere so we keeping with the idea that the sound was all about the point of view so we wanted to you know what the world what this experience sound like the Brad Pitt's character We decided the only the thing you would hear in that lunar chases things that would come through the microphones and Brad Pitt's helmet. So I like the unexpectedness of seeing a gunfire on fire and that scene and hearing nothing until the impact hit. It's funny because we don't really here. We put in kind of a muffled gun shop for the most part. I didn't WanNa hear hear them so you can see them shoot from a distance here. Nothing until the impact. It's kind of an extreme version of movies where you don't hear a gun sparring out. You only hear. The bullet hit so the the guns themselves became less important than the impact that they were making on us than the impact. I got to US years and years of my career of creating accidentally bad bad sounding distortion. So here's my chance so I thought my guess was what he would here if there is a an explosion on their Lunar Rover was pure for distortion and feedback so that Lunar Rover Chase the sound effects on it are almost all distortion and feedback for forever. The that sounds. You're never supposed to put into a track and we loaded it up with this and it's effective because it makes the kind of the overwhelming -ness of distortion makes you feel like this must be incredibly big event and it's not clean it all. It's incredibly disgusting and distorted dirty and that contrast of seeing something happen like a car. Lunar Rover crashed in the distance. In here. Nothing and then something comes towards you a piece of debris you hear nothing when it goes right by you hear this complete overload of our of our circuitry. So that's that was what was fun about car chase using all the wrong sounds looks like an identified rovers approach out position possible Byron activity and we're now punctured EP. Okay Okay it clear repeat. We are not clear multiple enemy craft pursuit distortion to also in seeing automatic scene with Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones floating in space and struggling with each other. Same thing there. That struggle we hearing as distortion through their microphones anchor phones which is a disturbing sound. It's not clean. It's not our world it's what it would sound like out in. Space is both realistic and and emotionally effective. Which is nice when you can find? Sounds that are both realistic. That's what it would probably sound like to these people as distortion. Coming through their microphones. Phones and and headsets but it happened also be emotionally powerful to write and then took it back to the realism F- overall. What was your approach to space travel raffle well into the movie? Had the journey aspects of the first launch. We heard was from Earth so that sounds like every Saturn five launch. We've ever are done. And then it progresses so the moon launch has no sound outside only inside the spaceship. Mars put in weird animal. Sounds did this too old old sound effects editor trick using animals to make something seem weird so the rocket explosions and landing on Mars are sweetened with roars and an Dan will sound to make it. Seem like it's another world so we kind of made a progression as we as we went though. The movie starts with the really interesting seeing. That's not quite white space but almost space which is on this world's tallest tower and You know with the atmosphere's really thin so it's similar to Mars and away so you know the the explosion and the the gamma rays that we hear on the opening our kind of again. We're imagining what it might sound alike to Brad Pitt's character so when the explosions happened in the tower the first thing we actually here is the distortion in his headset. And then we hear a distant muffled boom a nanosecond afterwards figured that's probably the way it would sound to him just a little bit of radio distortion than distant boom and then you know play the the contrast of when it gets closer now. It's sounds more real. But one is further away and in thin atmosphere it's It's different than we normally would here. Did you record anything. At NASA and Orgy is NASA archives for Cornea Material. We definitely archives available. And they're very interesting and so there we did actually use some of that stuff that we we had more fun kind making our own. You what happens when you do research like that you find what the sounds really sound like you have fun recreating quarter pounder with cheese and your kitchen. You WanNa make you make your own version of reality. Because that's what the sound design fun is. Would you give us an example. Well is really loved. I found a tool. Remember the name some of it but I could take little bits and pieces of dialogue and turn it into ambulances and it sounded like an ambiance inside the space capsule in the middle of space. These weird sounds and then you know at different points in the movie. I could take a bit of Tyler. Dialogue turned into something if I felt like you know. Brad Pitt's thinking of live tyler or same. Thank Tommy Lee Jones and so that that tool became using that tool to make sounds that sounded like what I was hearing from NASA. But I was really using live Tyler and Tommy Lee Jones announced. Thank you very much. What other elements did you have to go out and record a lot of the funny? A lot of the recordings new fresh recordings worth with new kinds of distortion. Just kind of kind of of righted. The source now. I have in my library. For instance the rover just a steady rover on the moon. I just wanted to kind of this distorted rumble. All I did was blow in a microphone. I could do it here. You know I won't do it but his blow into microphone. I just got the steady rumble. So we didn't do a lot of exotic I didn't Doug Murray who preceded us and did a lot of early sound work for the movie did a lot of the recording of original material that that we ended up using so it was a combination of the way movie took a long time to do so the sound crew changed overtime to so Doug Murray started by doing a lot of the recording and then we came in and I recorded distortion. That was my my job demonstrating. I don't know if it'll do it but yet take the GO-TO and know what that sounds like. But if you bypass the windscreen and just blow into the microphone you could give it some variation to and you know the the the rover driving on the moon. That's all you hear is just kind of a that that rumble go cheaper. Sound effect known to man this map and underground lake beneath launchpad. You'll be able to access a ship from there approaching you're gonNA come for you. ankerium need to get back now. Do it again. What were some of the things you got to go out and report you mentioned animal noises? We did animal. Dick came from Doug Murray did recordings for there's a there's a baboon attack which was really interesting that kind of stuff and then animal stuff. I didn't record a new animals but he was library. We had my favorite animal recordings that we had that a user user Wales so there's a fight scene in the movie where a terrible tragedy ends up at this fight. The Brad Pitts Care Does Not WanNa have and at the end of it. Everyone's kind of dead and wail grounds that I happened. Already have sounded like ship creeks so we put them in the fight. You kind of imagine them. Maybe maybe the stress of the spaceship that they're fighting but it really is a whale grown and the subliminal effect we were hoping for was that Brad Pitt as is wondering his characters wondering am I as dark as my father is. Is there an animal inside me like my father. Who did this terrible thing? So Oh animal sounds in moments like that just feel like there's an did kind of bubbling up in him that kind of They're they're in the fight scene preceding the baboon. They're all these animals sounds are snuck into the passing through the spaceship that you don't hear his animals you just hear his rumbles. And Creeks Awesome Air hisses and things like that but they are meant to be they stand out in a weird way to move you about technical sounds and when you hear something organic like an animal grow grow grown even if you don't recognize the whale it's still has this human component to that stands out because it doesn't happen too much in the movie now this year you also appear in front of the cameras in a documentary called making waves of cinematic sound. What was experienced life to be on that? All those great right those mid Causton Directed it and by that buster produced it and for years wanted this is a project of theirs To bring the sound is a hidden art and I've often thought that sound people should probably WanNa keep it that way because if it's hidden people don't know the effect it has on them and you can can get away with more stuff than if people are really aware so maybe it was a bad thing but did a great job of explaining sound history and the importance importance of sound to the experience of going to the movies. So Yeah my job. On that I went to the premiere of it at the TRIBECA which is weird. I go to premieres for movies. You do sound for. I don't go to movies where I'm in a long time. This happens for me but you know. Hey I'll take So I was impressed with the movie and not just I know my part of it but the the movie itself was a really well done emotional. Might my point that I tried to make in the movie and the movie tries to make too is. That sound is unemotional carrier. That it's it's it's not a technical aspect of filmmaking. It's actually an emotional aspect major. What can you tell us about the Lima project? I man expedition to the outer solar system. Sir Some twenty years ago and the commando was I was my father sir. Ship disappeared approximately sixteen years into the mission. Data is ever recovered deep. Space missions were halted after Roy. We have something that's might come as a shock to you. We believe your father still alive. Live near Neptune. The Fathers Alive Sir we believe. Could you share something that you learned earlier during your career that continues to stay with you. I think I earned learned early in my career and stays with me is that less is more. The seems like an obvious lesson for a lot of things but in sound. It's really hard because especially these days. People are making movies bigger and bigger and bigger trying to get the audience's attention by having more happen open having things be denser busier faster and louder and Years ago really on the film. Terminator Two with James Cameron that Mrs Big Action Film. When I was young enough that my approach to it was I was going to throw in every kitchen sink? I had to try to make it as bombastic and big and and and he's the one that kept pulling it back and focusing and the lesson I learned was even in sound. You think that'll be more impactful of this chase has sixty sixty eight sounds happening at this moment but it's more packed with. UvA One sound happening at that moment and then the next month we have another one even for an action. Film like that and is counterintuitive. It's not a lesson that comes easily but and I think it's a lesson that's not just for sound. I think sometimes in film we by doing too much we minimize demise. The impact in Ad Astra the The picture which have been Horta Masin retire graffiti in your sound. Just work so well together. To what extent did you watch those images. Did they drive the sound. Oh it's always always the case. That imagery helps inspire sound. There's a coldness to some of the imagery imagery starkness. They're certainly loneliness. I mean the the way the film shot and it really was using space. Travel have imagined NASA might might not like the movie. The movie ultimately tells us that space travel can be very isolating and lonely thing and separate us from humanity so the imagery I think more and more as it goes it really isolates the audience and the character you feel the coldness. It's tricky to make movie like that because you you want the audience to feel cold you want them to. Still connect with the one by the annually disconnected Brad Pitt and volt ultimately timely Jones. She's still in to connect to them as humans. But but you know the the visuals in the movie were striking just beautiful and In space travel is been done many different ways with this has a unique tonal quality to the visuals. And we gratefully poll. A tone from the visuals of movie. Thank you for joining us. My pleasure

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148. Feature Presentation - Men In Black (1997)

Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast

1:52:00 hr | 8 months ago

148. Feature Presentation - Men In Black (1997)

"They are the best kept secret in the universe working for a highly funded yet unofficial government agency K and J are the men in black providers of immigration services an regulators of all things on earth while investigating a series of unregistered close encounters honors the agents and cover the deadly plot of an intergalactic terrorist. Who is on a mission to assassinate ambassadors from opposing galaxies currently in residents in New York City woken to another feature presentation in double feature and on this episode? We'll be covering nineteen ninety seven men in black directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. This ladies and Gentlemen Welcome back to another episode of double feature the feature presentation episode covering Nineteen ninety-seven Men in Black Colin. What's going on come? It wasn't Yup dig it. I like it the song immediately. Run right yeah. I'm GonNa Buddy how you doing. I'm good dirt. You did okay. So this is what do we do. We do the whole facade that we haven't just recorded at three hour episode detain the vein. I Dunno just talking about. I don't know I don't know what I'm talking about but no really guys. Thank you so much for joining us for this episode. We're covering like I said men black feature presentation we're going to go through men in black sequentially we're going to spoil it. We're going to wear so if you haven't seen thousand nine hundred hundred men in black. I don't know what you're doing. It's twenty two two years old. Go and watch it. It's IT'S FIT DESTIG- movie it's a great time insurance weight and then come back and listen to this podcast because we will be spoiling it and guys if you ever wanted follow us on social than you want already Please feel free to visit us on facebook. We have our main page which is midnight double. Hoa Postel Gal. Little teases of not not really tastes. Actually we announcements of our newest episodes there and we post posters and you know all manner of like you know upcoming Shit and then we after party which is what we as out upcoming episode. So the after parties are social grip on facebook. That's where we get community together and we chat things film We have a great time there. That's called the Party and if you will on if you'll instagram inclined. We are instagram. Ram which is at midnight and twitter which is at MD F- pod. You can listen to us anywhere on spotify Youtube and I tunes wherever and plays plays plays Remember to write and reviews on itunes. That would be fantastic. It was one song. It was one of five stars. How many you desire? Just let us know. Why Cullen Lisov into this bitch? Openings thoughts men in black nineteen ninety-seven hit me man. I I can remember this movie. I remember everyone came out. Was that Prime Age. Were you know five six year memories are like. I don't quite remember a lot of Shit at you before that but like right around this age is where I will say like like. I don't know I start. My memory is really really good. Around this age. I remember when this came out and independence day in stuff often. I can remember my family. I think we I don't know if women solace in theaters but I can remember going around the House with a pad and pen and there was like five or six movies coming out and there's just me the in my two brothers my sister and my mom and dad and I was like all right so I'm taking a poll. What movie do you WanNa go? See my brother Adam. Just opening up the door me being a Taken down tallies a new. You want to go see and have just gone. I don't care just shutting the door because I don't think he even in a hundred he even he even ended up going with US anyways. I don't even remember if we actually went and saw the the movie. I just remember that. So well I can't remember the first time that I saw this I remember obviously really enjoying it. And it's very is very different I Love Berry Sonnenfeld. Kind of the way that he directed this right. It was sci-fi Hi fi who is action. It was like I said it Kinda. He kinda has like Tim Burns into ability to me. And I don't know it's something like everything is really like grimy amy and kind of dirty looking and there's a lot of hyper detail on stuff and there's just there's so much to every shot in their semi. I don't know what it is about the way that he directs. It's it's fantastic. I love addams family the two movies that heated row Julia. I love those movies. I had one of those vhs the first one and just watched it religiously religiously growing up more so than the movies that I was really aware of because I remember seeing the first one in the second one. I've never seen the third one or the remake But there is a cartoon that was on TV. When I was a kid and I fucking watch the hell out of that and I really really enjoyed it and I think that one was a little bit closer due to the Comic Book Comic Book? I think they investigate like ghost and Loch ness monster and Yetis along with aliens like they're kind of like ghostbusters but they. I also do aliens as well and I think on the cartoon was a little bit closer to that they did like you know kind of aliens violent to like the comics. That's what I've heard. I've heard effort. It's it's you know it's it's not. It's not your typical comic book for Kids. Kinda Shit I really WanNa read it after like hearing about it family. You know I heard it's only like six or eight issues I really want to check it out But I mean this movie was everywhere when this came out this was such a big deal I I think that this is like yeah. A lot of people nineties films sometimes. Get a bad rap. I think that this is just one of those. It has really stood the test of time. There there's a a couple of things here and there that kind of stand out but hey ninety seven fuck off dude. Like what are you GonNa do. I think that the imagery behind the the neuro alizer the glasses asses the the little creek gun that will Smith H it. Just it's it's a great movie man and I really enjoy this movie because I went back and watched it man. I WANNA do men in black and I was like oh whatever. I was literally indifferent. Whatever go you know maybe you know maybe whatever and when I went back and actually watched it you know I was like man? I really forget how much I enjoy this movie. And how great it is and I mean don't Smith is hey man will smith. It's awesome. Tommy Lee Jones says the MVP of this movie movie good and it so outside of his typecast. It's very outside of like what I feel like. A lot of people know Tommy Lee Jones Jones for us. It's like her marginally. The fugitive no country for old men under siege. This was very different and I think it works well with him. And Will Smith like will Smith Smith is like the is supposed to be the comedic relief. But he's like the goofy comedic relief versus like the straight man. Serious kind of DEADPAN. Humor that as a kid. You Love Will Smith as an adult. I fucking Love Tommy Lee Jones. I think that you know I I. I don't know I never really saw the remake. The international final is just not well REBA. Whatever the fog? There's something I it's actually. It's actually a spin off like it's kind of like a like a and sort of separate thing right I mean international. Obviously these aren't just like American agents Liam Neeson's Shit by I. I think it's I don't know there's something about the way that Sonnenfeld does this. That's his sensibilities really really work with with a with a title like this and when I saw all the trailers for IBM rational is like that. Just seems like the action packed. Good time it doesn't have that weird gothic dark kind of funny stale sense of humor that this that this whole thing has about it and you know it's got funny moment. It's got sad moments. It's got great action. I think it's got everything in between and Yeah A- As I'm watching this it's not to kitty that as an adult. I can't enjoy it but even when I was a kid there even the adult parts were just enough that it was too much for me as a kid to like watch. Watch something like this but I really really enjoy it I'm glad we glamour going back watching it again. And it's the first time we were kind of dippenaar toes into the men in black universe. There's let alone that I mean. I think this is one of our first if not the first will Smith Movie Yeah well Hadn't considered about. Actually I mean he's got a fucking repertoire out at the assets good movie to start with a great movie you start with absolutely and if we're GONNA get into my thoughts. Hey like this is probably like my this. This is my childhood bread and butter. Right right here this will smith coupled with bad boys coupled with Buck what did he do after his independence-day Wednesday so Independence Day and then you've got that wild west which not great but as a kid you kind of you know you kind of into that So like between Queen does full movies here in the late night. He's been like my mom. Childhood is on file. It's like Holy Shit. This guy's coolest man alive like you know what I mean but yeah man. Men in black was an absolute staple In my in my childhood Emma. My brother's childhood as well like You know we never again. This is awaiting the POPs up on the PODCASTS. We never bought videos. We always type them whenever they were unlike whenever they're on TV. So I can remember where all all the cuts of all the commercials like you know what I mean like. I remember that Shit I remember. We used to have multiple copies and multiple types types of of this film because he used to be on all the fucking time on channel. Ten o'clock eight thirty. It used to be a thing and then like you know I guess we just lost track of like like how many videos we had of this and we just kept typing and typing it and this was something that we always revisited. All the fucking time my brother and I so it's kind of Congra- reigned in my memory of like how I felt about things so Yemen. This is such an endlessly enjoyable movie. Like I we have no qualms of like pudding in men in black this first one. I've never I've no qualms of like if someone was to make me. Watch this movie as Torture Asia. I would be like homer Simpson in the in. Hell like just aiding darnall this. Yeah this is just like devouring the because it sir. It knows exactly what it is. And it's one hundred percent dialed into just being a good damn entertaining movie like between Will Smith Okay. I'm go down there will. Smith is one of the most interesting parts of this movie to me now as a child definitely way up there but for me now it's like. Oh Yeah. Okay he's fine. He's astride man like you said calling but if it's definitely K it's definitely Tommy Lee Jones and that it's amazing how much that has an an inverted like from childhood like it's so much more interesting to say Tommy Lee Jones riff off will smith and you know this kind of chemistry. They used to have it so much more interesting now for mater to look at that as an older person then than just you know golf. The Face is volume will Smith's sort of like characteristics but not I wouldn't go so far cooling Tommy Lee Jones Mind Paola. He is amazing my. VP's fucking Vincent Vincent and offering holy fucking Shit. Is He bringing in this movie. And a lot of that is down to like you know obviously the creature and the effects of Rick Baker in Rick. Baker's a fucking legend right like is I was like okay. Is this Stan Winston or is this rick bike. Because if it's not it's not either of those two than I have no idea who it is you know. The practical effects in this movie are just fucking top notch. You know it's it's it's a beautiful looking. Maybe Rick Baker just absolutely knocked. His blood knocked it out of the park. But Yeah Vincent in Austria is just such a great greg character actor knock-on every time time Vincent de Defazio is in something he always manages to elevate a potentially Kind of like Ma- kind of like roll into something that's truly memorable Probably like my. My latest sort of example is That not great or not memorable remake of magnificent magnificent seven. You know the one Chris Pratt and Denzel Washington didn't offer was in that and he just took. He made his his character choice. Of like some. Like the Meta totally memorable that could have been entirely forgettable like he's just so good that way. If you haven't insane devil definitely say devil one two and three one in three is what is in mostly and obviously. He's you know profit piles from full metal jacket like this is a guy who throws himself into the roles and he's just such such a great actor and it looks like he's having the buck and take away the the the knee braces that had away for this role in the heavy makeup. He looks like he's having the greatest fucking time in this role. Like you know what I mean. This is when you see the actors like that having a good time in the films that they're in that immediately makes me have a good time in the fucking watching the films that they're in. Yeah and and like what you were saying as well just to kind of like add onto that the whole world building like the hold. This whole neutralize has a shared. There's aliens there you know. This is kind of like this was literally like the men in black. This is like a riff on that obvious. Sort of like conspiracy that the government is out there then it is out there knowing what the like extraterrestrial life. You know that there's all these cover up. I love that idea. That whole concept of the whole idea of this comic book I Guess Franchise which is like taking that into the extreme. You know what I mean because that whole premise already is super interesting. The whole conspiracy element of it all. I love that shit and I never really considered that as a kid like I never really considered. Oh man you know Roswell deny the whole the the military is covering up what could be the guy and just just say like the like. There's a pace of mania out there that actually got recognize and it's like all right. Let's let's take this and let's let's expand upon this. Let's build this into into something. That might be enjoyable and men is enjoyable. You didn't really bury fell by the way very sonnenfeld. Who obviously they said? He directed these. He did Adam family he also did. Get get shorty wild west He did like the the roadways movie. RV As as a producer he did the lady killers which the COEN brothers neo. Purdue heated lemony snippets a series of unfortunate events. He was one of the prudential hyme to he. Also admitted black international cinematographer Dude Raising Arizona. Throw Momma from the train thrown from the train big win. Harry met Sally Miller's crossing misery like dude. This guy has worked his ass off. If you go through television and shed. It's not really it's it's nothing huge. I mean he did like the tick and you know he's done up here. Beverly Hills Cop. TV show series of unfortunate events. But I mean the guy has just fucking condone some of the best shit and I feel like he's I I don't know I feel like not enough. People know enough about Barry Sonnenfeld but there is something and I really really love about the way he directs these movies. It's like it's fantastic man. I think he's got such great sensibilities and I wish I could quantify that more four I I you know. I haven't studied the craft enough to realize what it is about him that I really really really love. But it's the quick zoom INS. It's the attention to like really very small details details. The humor in his shed is just fantastic. And I love it it's weird because icon icon. Really I can't really spit it out either Though like he's he's got a he's got a saul about him and it's not as obvious like the trademarks on his obvious Tarantino or Nolan or like fincher you know what a main like. It's not really like A. There's nothing that that actually like underlines that this is a Barry Sonnenfeld movie for me like it's not really like A. This is a barrier song. Like I wouldn't immediately pick up a Barry Sonnenfeld film like I would and Nolansville or Italian Taylor fincher. Do you know what I mean. Like right like his his style. His style fits the movie that he's making and that you can't ask for better fit for a directed man but Yemen really fucking love. This movie I might I might. I probably even a dead decided that this is in my top twenty. I'm not fucking getting Dan. This is this is a movie that I- Cape April visiting and it never gets ultimately and it's just so fucking clever. This is such a big gamble for a studio for Zarni to be doing a movie like this like they put some money into. This is a pretty. I don't know what the budget is off the heart of if he can look up Colin but like I feel like the budget for this movies. Pretty Pretty fucking solid. And they've got these bankable stars Tommy Lee Jones and will Smith and they all dyson man. They tended into massive acid franchise ninety ninety million dollars. Yeah in Nineteen ninety-seven that's fucking solid. That's huge still still pretty fucking big right. I mean that's a solid budget but yeah like I mean. Have you seen the sequels. That'll I think I saw a little bit. I remember seeing the second one. 'cause I remember J. working at the post office but other than that. I can't remember talking. Sorry and I remember the the the woman that comes in and she he crashes and she's like this real sexy. I was like that lady district for next to. That's the first thing I thought By the way ninety million dollar budget five hundred eighty nine million dollars awash so yeah. fucking drill dude. Yeah I mean yeah the second one was also kind of like another childhood staple of Ouseba like even back then we near that. It wasn't wasn't really that great like you know. Two main like an add to that in the movies like Super Short I think he's like seventy five minutes or eighty minutes that second one those the damage sure. Yeah it's very short and it's Kinda forgettable like it's about like this Elena alien who comes and looks lots of Zoff And Yeah you're right. She's played by lower our from boyle she's got these tentacles little snake like things that come out from a she's it's Kinda forgettable and it seems like a bit of a rehash on the first one except it's Jay trying to lure in K.. After neutralizing at the end of this movie and it is it is funny funny to say Kay to kind of like a normal civilian in like being like a really believe in aliens or anything like that anymore like it is. It is forgettable It's not autograph SACO. The third one is actually kind of interesting again directed by Bennie. Barry Sonnenfeld in that it deals with time travel and I know that time travel elizabeth like a staple and you kind of can be used as like a get out of jail. Free Cottle's on some sometimes but like that dead one's kind of interesting. There's a nice nice little twist or a wrinkle in the story that due at the end there that's pretty memorable in pretty solid into international is an abortion of film. By the way I feel like I watched you'd probably listening to my review on the upcoming attractions. And I just. I can't can't remember a single thing about that movie at all. Nothing zero and I watched it literally more recently than I probably watched this movie. So Yeah Oh man. That's his thoughts. What do you say we get into this bitch I am down do? Let's do it all right. We have been on a bug very subtle. Barry is on unfilled very subtle dragonfly. Doodoo Guy Pasta any alphand school. I love the score for this movie. Dude they're Dunton. Dented wanted to like that. I love that. It's it's fucking to made that tomase like conic. That's probably why keep thinking Burton itself itself me. Yeah yeah absolutely and I I gotta say I mean I don't want to jump too far ahead but I fucking love Uncle Rico. Driving the bus full of illegal immigrants. Let's talk about yeah. Basically this evening saying sets up Illegal aliens I love it. I love the the the little sort of like white white line. The line between aliens sort of thing and the little job but yeah illegal aliens get picked up at the border crossing here who loved trip or whatever the fuck is bordered river. He's kind of like this like casting Niger. He's like he's like me. Yeah I would've thrown them back and then of course a Rox up with day and we get this sort of like little bit of intrigue kid only. Yes no just kidding now I love it. 'cause he says part of it I s which is the immigration. I can't remember the stations of right which I mean. Technically they are part of their part of a division. That you don't really know anything about you know like they're telling the truth the just it doesn't matter because in about two minutes you're not remember any of this shit anyways right no exactly but I love them kind of like Cherry picking like who like which one out of these guys at the alien like I love. I love how dirt immediately Jones is so likeable and watchable. Like he's going through this lineup and he's like talking he's like he's like a boiler you'll you'll be back in the American welcome to America and I I love. I love the fact that he's not a Dick to these and he's asking you. Are you coming here for work. Okay equal yeah. Hey congratulations welcome to the US. Congratulations Yeah Yeah. It's good and it's such a stark contrast to the the the border the actual border officers like you know what I mean. Who fucking dicks right? I love it but yeah he's working his way down and he finally gets to Mikey in this uh-huh in this disguise. I love that like he can't talk with head he's just laughing at everything he doesn't understand Spanish. It's beautiful it's like laugh. And then it's like they cut my pin and reveal to bay this giant Squid Monster Right which is like the the equivalent of like in movies. When you see two kids that get on top of each other's shoulders and throw a trench coat on? That's your best bet. Like how desperate is is this fucking doc in thing one hundred percent but I love like Alaska I like a love. Okay did because the building is in the dialogue here. It's like monkey. When do they let you out of jail? Like what's what do you mean like. How do you how you aware of these what what is happening here at this point you know what a main and like I love this this head like I will never forget? Get the image of this head like just on his metal pole and his against its mouth. Agape it's like what the fuck is happening at this point in the question is like what attracts Mikey to the border patrol agent. Like that makes them WANNA eat him. Why guy or is it? Just like my cover's blown fucking kill. Kill Kill L.. Like I I mean I mean it's a nit-pick small district but that's what set him off you know like I didn't know what it was. Because he doesn't flip out on agents he flips out when the patrol agent like sees him for real like I was like I was hoping it was like red heads. Like it's like favors like he just takes off after or something. I didn't really know what it was. I never I never never really. Yeah I never really questioned that. Maybe that's a childhood thing but like yeah I feel like because he's kind of got a pre existing relationship obviously with the agents and then it's like okay. Hey We have this this insane me. I'm fucking screwed so I think I think it's kind of like equal pots. I WANNA kill this guy and also sorry I want to escape kind of thing right for all we know Mike. He's a registered sex offender in murderer. And he's like anyways. What do I care I might as well try and eat this guy I love when like Cabelas them up and just the the look of all the entrails and Shit looks beautiful? Dude Dude come this doctor Manhattan Jr is just like everywhere fucking sound that that age instead. Sira Dude it's like Oh my God. It's so good and I'll never forget that actor because that actor plays like the yellow eyed Damon from supernatural. Like I literally like the main villain like and and my brother like Whoa. We'll never forget him. But like that's that's that's the main thing and then I love the truck full of like the flame onto our guys rockin up just to destroy any evidence any bacteria they stop torturing the CACTI and they extinguish it immediately meanwhile ks. He's doing his thing and he's like the NC looking for is right here and then it's like who are you really really. I'm just a figment of imagination. And and then flash and it's gone I love it especially how he singles he's like you need to watch every day Discharge weapons here fuel line especially you and everybody looks at him like a dumb ass. I love it I love the I love the bow shit stories. They give after. It's fucking great man like after the flashing of like Little Little Jabs Absorb Tommy Lee Jones does and it's maybe like off the flashes like damn. What a gullible braid you like? You would think that hazing alien are nothing but yeah he flushes day. No Day you won't and then day says I'm going to miss the chase. And he's like no you weren't and then cut to chase cut to will Smith tearing US or New York on down this Cephalopod Guy. This is Kgo so brilliantly shot really fucking exciting actually but I loved like throughout this chase. We kind of get a sense that this guy's not something's up here. Yeah I mean that like. I'm sorry just the thing that cracks me up about when he neutralizes D is these like I'm sorry you know the flesh is willing but spirit spirit is willing but the flesh Bob. I you know I'm gonNA miss the chase. He neutralizes them. He was just talking about Pussy. He's like talking about the game and trying to get laid over here weird zeroed. Do this guy with this huge head in this tiny like it looks like a Tim. Burton like Super Villain. I don't know what this old man sitting and Eric just like the look on his face. It kind of creeps me out. There's something about it like this. I just kind of unsettles me but I the D I mean but this guy running running from running futch Bill Smith. Whatever his name is I'm just getting right him running from J.? I I love it because this is so like pre park horror before Parker or like What is Jim say on the office? He's like Park Park or Internet sensation of the early two thousand and I was like this is so cool seeing this. You know. No it's a it's a great choice man like I love. You know. We'll landing on the bus. It just be renting black people in New York today Apparently improvised as well like you know. He's got a few improvised lines in this movie. What do you think about young big willie? We saw a man. I think that will Smith is one of the most overrated actors of all time I think that he's a fine actor. I think that he deserves a lot of the accolades that that he has earned I think that he he has made some really good career moves. I think that there has been some times where it seems like. He's going for a paycheck more than going for like a good film. You know it's like this was assuming this movie would i. This is a great film I think a lot of the stuff that he's doing. I Love Independence Day. I know some people give that shit is probably more nostalgia But then you see him. Do something like wild wild west and yeah he you can see. He's just doing like the box office stuff and at some point he does kind of switch years. He's he's doing more of like the pursuit of Halley seven pounds Ali. All these great. He's fucking great and Ali but did he win Oscar. I don't except for one one. Not Maybe not but I mean the thing like seeing him a like a like. I don't know seeing him like turned down. Wipe Django because he's like. Oh I'm not the main character like you fucking idiot man like I get that. You're not the main character but like you know dude I it just it blows close my mind like I'm sorry but anybody who would read that script to turn it down because they're not. The main character is a fucking idiot. I'm sorry man like Eddie. It turned down neo from the Matrix Dietrich's because he wanted something. That was a sure. Bet I I don't think he's a real risk taker when it comes to stuff Having said he's a talented guy I watch fresh prince growing up. I don't really enjoy his music career. Most of his stuff is just samples from other like the Wild Wild West Song is just I wish by Stevie wonder I wonder you know the the men in black theme song is just. I can't remember the name of the song but it's I out fuck it as something like a bell. Yeah there are. There are all samples. And I'm like dude. You made a career after being like an okay actor that super overrated unlike sampling. A bunch of other people's music talented Guy Guy I haven't seen his whole repertoire but you know I would love to see him do something that you know he just Jimmy man and it's like yeah that seems like total will Smith move and it's I I wanna so you like I liked I robot. I thought it was cool. I like a move and that was a little bit. Yeah but I wanNA see him just like throw a fucking curveball at somebody you know. Break that typecast. You are not the black like Tom Cruise. You know like your like the Action Star Guy like you are in you. You can do that. And that's awesome but breaks them old man like Tom Cruise and tropic. Thunder like do something like that. Throw us a fucking total curve ball. Tom Cruise in collateral. You know be Nia bad guy. Do something different. You know. Maybe that movies out there and I just haven't paid enough to pay attention to his career but everything I see. He's the leading man in some kind. Hi Do you know I am. Legend fucking great. I'll give it that I like. I am legend. That's pretty cool. That's a really good movie. I actually fucked. That might be an expert on thinking about it But I just want to see him. Break that mold. I WANNA see him take a little bit more risk on some stuff you know. Now I get I get Lee main like I think I think for the most part I agree. Stay with you. I think there is one thing that really kind of makes will smith the shine or hit with people. Well and that's charisma like fucking charismatic. Like A in everything that he is in older. He's not really putting in you. Know he's not really. I remain like in terms of like being overrated. But at no point to me. Is he boring to watch right especially in this movie. He's got he's got a swagger about him he's got an attitude attitude about him. That just makes them a good time and like just fun to watch like he's never boring and I think I think he's kind of like kind of pride on that idea and Nikes. It's been successful for him. There are the have been curveball movies here and there by the way he was not matter folly. He didn't win. I Yeah I just looked at the hat. Yeah yeah one of the movies he he did a fucking garage job in. But the script is didn't wasn't solid Concussion that's the movie about the A and the way it affects. NFL players Really really solid Buchan performance man. Like yeah if you do want to check out something that he's really kind of different in. He's that's a that's a solid one for show and a really really pretty interesting story. Actually actually but yeah but look getting back to this movie Yeah he on this guy. Cephalopod you know. I love the little things that Sonnenfeld kinda throws in here to show that this is not a normal. This is not a human being. That is hunting down right. This is something else like he pulls out the the fucking weapon. It disintegrates immediately. Does that kind of like weird sort of like run up the wall. And he's saying he's coming coming right. I love like them running into the Guggenheim the museum and like literally he's climbing up the fucking wall like the outside the wall and it's just like what the fuck is this thing and will Smith has shoot down the fucking window disarm the windows and then just starts did by the way you're not running that distance up that's kind of like sponge building building in that time. You fucked Sir. You signed bolt is that. Is that who you are right. Yeah I wanted someone on set to be like Berry they. They don't all run fast. I don't know what you're thinking dude like. They're like links it did crack me up because you see on the bottom level and like three seconds later. He's Ah five stories it's like. Oh I'm sorry. I forgot your like Earth. Sixty two Barry Allen flash my bad right exactly and they get up a EH cephalopod does his little blink thing which is like Oh okay that's cool and I- Texas one dive off the fucking top of the building which is super crabby. Maybe I'll always remember the sound like it's kind of like a like a high pitched sound of him like falling before it hits the straight and it's like Oh dude the the fact that they pull whole away like right at the last second seen that concrete is you like you. It's like you think you see it and you're like Holy Shit. It's like right there. Yeah it's it's fantastic like again. Dan Sonnenfeld just brilliant. Because we're looking at this shot and then the next shot is one of my favorite shots in the entire movie might be one of my favorite shots. it's just this pickup truck in the foreground this house in the background. And then what you think is a star is moving. It's like Oh aw dude this. The weather shot is composed though the dialogue. That's happening in the background. You get a sense of like who edgar is like. He's talking about fucking domestic violence in his wife is like you don't get Bayton enough when you get bathing much. And then like in. He's like the only thing that matters The only thing that pulled whole mount pulls its weight around here is my God damn truck and then boom love it man love. It looks the same. No I I really dig it because I mean as soon as as soon as she goes off like pops out with a shotgun and there is a guy that we worked with at one of my my last jobs. I'm just GONNA call him John. He's a white trash piece of shit and he. He talked like Vincent in an offer. You talked when he turns into the bug here. This voyage any kind of talk like that and anytime he would start getting pissed at work and start going off I would. I would look at him in coast three support my heroines more more like water. I would fuck with him so bad and he hated it and every time I see this guy now I just think of old John White trash appreciate. I can't help it. It makes me laugh every single time. And it's so weird seeing Vincent Enough Rio like just as normal himself and then once he comes back and you're like Holy Shit like that is fucking crazy when you're looking at your like that some really because it I as a child I was like. Oh that's not the same aim guy because he looks taller. Looks like a foot taller than before in your life. That can't be the same guy then it goes on. You're like Holy Shit. They really you did some great effects work with him on this and I I really I really love to see this is very like prototypical of you know. The the redneck shown over the shock. UFO thing reminds me of Bill Hicks Show where he was like he was like what a fucking rednecks bring shotguns to UFO sightings. Because we don't want we don't want to be taken from our homes and he's I leave all this behind like that's the first fucking thing I think every time I seen like this it's Grad and like the just even the thing about that the idea of this right like a main like how fucked was my childhood to watch this like so many fucking like this. If you put this on paper like how would it read like alien. Crushes crashes in fucking Pharma's Front Lawn Pharma guys to investigate alien eighths Pharma rips off its skin and wears it skin. What yeah? He goes like full buffalo. BILL ON IMMUNO DIRT. Charlie would you fuck me our show of good walks in and says his wife Beatrice give me sugar in water water. This is settling because sonnenfeld holes on this thing for so long like he does his a couple times during this movie way. It's like something massive happens and then like immediately after there's like this conduct long sort of like unsettling sane where. You're not sure what is going on. And he takes his time. Would they say quences like this. Same text I feel like forever because I mean and that's not a bad thing. I love that you know that it's kind of given it's sort of like do credit is. She's like Edgar. Your skin is hanging off your face in terms of the mirror and his like that. Better uh-huh that's that is like such an infamous shot is beautiful dude. I love it and then like you know. I love him like she faints. He waltzes off to the funding for and digs it out run. And then he got J. being interrogated by boss You know what happened to the Guy Blah. What are you talking about? I'm half the man. You are so good evening along new you leave me. Hello with you for ten minutes and you get ten minutes on a stairmaster. You pudgy bastard boy he lays and then you find in walks thin Laurel UEVA right. I think she is so underused in this movie by the way Linda. Yeah now for sure because she kinda has this whole like like Like a Wednesday addams kind of vibe to me. You know this like this gothic kind of like macab Gothic kind of girl. God she is hot. What s ever? Since I was a kid I was just like a Beta seven years old. Holy Shit Dude. She is smoking and like in the next movie. The fucking the girl is Rosario Dawson. Damn Oh yeah I think rose McGowan as like. Oh wait a while K.. Walks in like unplugged the camera and wants to know he basically wants to know whether Jason recognize a weapon exhorted again I love the work the way he opens like the dialogue between these like their gills. It's it's so great like like you know. Jay immediately takes him seriously when he's he walks in and he's like oh their gal he's bringing you know he was out of breath blah blah. And he's like. Oh yeah that's great. Well I guess what what did he say. He said something like the world's going to end he's like when yeah back. Act that he wants to know when you can you can see the dynamic change. It's great. Yeah it's not a it's not a what a win and it's like I understand what you're saying but Yeah man they go to jail slice. I love like I know this guy. He doesn't so guns and he's like I'm GonNa go in there and put my thing down one the when I come back I wanna I want some real answers blah blah. I Love K okay. You put your thing down and Tony. Shillue do Hell L. Y.. US is right yeah. I mean unbelievably iconic of this. The Guy Getting his head shot off and growing back like it. If if there's imagery that sticks in this movie this is definitely one of them. Michelle and there's a lot of like pretty pretty conic imagery in this movie. One thing thing I really like about will Smith's character and he is kind of like goofy and sort of out of his element. He's not like you buy him as has a pretty good police officer like the immediate moment went cables a trigger here on Jacobs like the way like he quickly pulls out his pistol. And he's like all right. I'm GONNA put you. I'm GONNA give you three seconds to put down the weapon like I by Jay here. You know what I mean. Oh no absolutely like when he goes in and they're playing good cop cop bad cop and he blows Tony Shillue head off. The first thing will smith does pull a gun on your like dude. This is great like it's fantastic. It's it's so realistic realistic. It isn't him like dude. What did you do like? He's like I don't know who you are. I don't even know if you're a cop like you're some sort of government agent like what the fuck and he just draws a weapon on and it's like man even if you say you're cop like he's still he has that code you know for sure James's kind weapon and Jae recognizes that basically says is that this get rid of this shit I'm GonNa come back from them. rolexes Oh yeah. It's so great like all these alien weaponry and he's again again. Don't maybe catch them Rolex back here. It's like dude okay. He's totally out of his element to Kenya's him and they end up at this restaurant. I love the way this. This ain't opens with cages like doing this uncontrollable uncontrollable laughter. Like I've never seen told me that he joins make this sound. This laughing's ever beating my pop but like immediately like as soon as A. He's spots his watches. Like oh like he stops. Oh it's like watching arrogance sucked out of room. He's like he's like what are we talking about. See it's Keila gala. You're bright young man. You've got to watch drinking. You need to lay off the sauce. Quick little saint of the exterminator rocking out to Ed Gazprom mm-hmm and man this parts gave me as a kid. And tell you that much past. God He's Gary he's still scares me. uh-huh what's what's crazy about these roaches is like the ASPCA was all over this shit like it's like having live animals like you had. They had to be counted for four Shawshank like they had to find a dead Maggot for Jake. Brooks's bird eat like they don't draw the line at anything. Even though we have like a huge problem in the world they don't care like you gotta count every single one of them and it's like crazy. It was like super but like anal dude. It's like what the fuck okay fine. All right and like even like wind when j stepping on them at the end like. What are they mustard packets? Yeah yeah they're mustard packet jacket. Yeah but yeah Edgar gets rid of the exterminator and the puck and horrific way especially like this is red. PJ here which which is insane. Yeah well the crack me up is what he takes his spring broad. Whatever and shove it down his throat I would love to? The Guy was like ah tricks on you while we're just goes right back to like spring Did like seriously I would love. He pulls it out and he just thought sprang ago. Because it gives a fucking roach right. Okay we get one of my favorite scenes in the movie. It's the it's the induction slash lashed training sane right. We said we make the best of the best of the best sir wheel with honors. This is great. Oh Captain America over here aries just really happy to be here and has no idea why again dude like it's the it's the time that sonnenfeld dedicates. Yes this entire saying this whole like. It's so quiet as no music. It's just literally the pens and pencils and paper. You focus unlike all these like weird like on all these recruits Oh candidates and then all of a sudden. Jj Kinda plugging flooding j just gets up and then only. Here's Oh dude. It's it's it's so it's so fantastic because I feel like even this is the test. This is like your situation like it must be it's it's like instead of getting up and moving his pod over or grabbing the little chrome table next to him is. I'm going to be the most I think it shows like just the most you know it'll it'll you'll get the job done. Better be loud in right in attract people to you like. It's not what we want. We want discretion. You know right this is like I just love like no one does too like right on the on. A wall uses someone else's like the outside of someone else's say anything it's like I'm GonNa Jump GonNa drag this big ad lead as table and just make as much as possible. But I love when he drags it. They're always looking at him and he's like he looks at the guy next. They want to get down on this fastener join it's fucking fantastic. And then of course. The shooting range love the logic that Jay applies it. How good is this? Oh Dude it's fantastic. He's a he's like. Look my guys just do shit to me. How would you like? You're working out in the parks and my come bus cap in your ass. You got this white guy. He was like we got this white girl bike. An end the ghetto auto in the middle of the night she reading about quantum physics or some shit shit like he's like he's like he's like man. I don't know how it is bad. I'm running on the treadmill and like someone run bus into the jam trying to mess up my shit. It's great I love like I think I think it's here or even being in the sort of like the the egg the egg sate sane. Zad looks over to fucking K.. And he's just like laughing snickering to himself like behind the gloss like a lovely little moments like that. Yeah and rip tone. Dude R R I pee rip tour can dodge wrench dodgeball. Yeah I do that boy. Everybody's fear about as useful as a cock flavored lollipop. Oh boy how good is that. You're about what we've come to expect from years of government training do that Sanjay career line the so much here. And of course breaks down for will for J. Rather in nineteen fifties Rice of establishing contact Blah Blah. We know what this is Everybody's all the agency was except the aliens made contact March to nineteen sixty one outside new New York. There are none of us there the first night seven agents one is trauma and one dumb kid who got lost in the wrong back ride. Oh man you bought the Tall Manson flowers. And then we made we made these little grasshoppers low whatever the fuck they are these things. These things analogy clinic. So we'd dude that was like all over the cartoon I was watching when I was growing up and then my drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes like something so funny about these guys being addicted to all all this Earth Shit. That's just so funny. Yeah As as kids I as kids wasted love these things but now they kind of annoy I mean like I think they this was just kind of beat them into the ground especially the second wondered like there are a big part of the second one arm and it was just like man. Just fuck off now like you a great for that like one sane in the first one but damn damn right because in this. They're literally only used to be like look. It's all real. And then after that it's like they don't need to be like the face of the franchise you know right right exactly the K. K. K. fucking lays it out for Jay Wright. He's like there's more aliens here than you think that is trying to make living alone like J.. Immediately being like cab drivers media like a love this like you know. The distinction between a person is smart. But people have fucking stupid like I love that you have no idea how can happy that made me feel because it's like that is so true like one person to learn is can be smart and think for themselves then like you know once you introduce a group of people then this influencing each other's thinking and it's like Yeah Stupidity. Oh Dude fifteen. Hundred Years Ago we knew the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago. Everybody knew that the earth was flat and fifteen minutes ago. So you knew that people were alone on this planet like the Best Line from this movie. Imagine what your Landau tomorrow. And the fact like command his delivery of his lines. I think that's what does it for me. It's Tommy Lee. Jones is like delivery of his lines. That makes it so so much much more other serious or comical depending on the situation and here it's just like hits here you know it's like fuck also I wish K.. We're here to say twenty nine when a lot of people don't think that the that the fucking around he just he just goes those postal and start shooting. People can't stand this anymore. This is so this whole conversation sation great I love. He says like what's the catch the catch is no one will ever know you exist ever any on you can see. It's a shock that's really shocked Jay. And he's like Whoa and the only only thing I the only gripe I really don't I was like what I need is like. He sits here and he watches the Sun. Go down. And he's contemplating it and then he he just kinda shows back up. He's ready to go. It's like I want at least one scene of like a girlfriend a mother and aunt about him. Yeah right right which is I mean. It's not a huge. It's a huge deal but like there should be a little bit more weight to that decision. I feel like or maybe like a little brother or or someone that he's like. Hey I'm going away for while I'm sorry I won't you know I fuck it. Make him like a make him like volunteer youth basketball coach or something than. Hey sorry guys. I'm not going to become back your anymore or something you know. I A roommate something. GimMe something were were showing him several times. Maybe that's the deleted leded scene. You know I I if I'm thinking of it I'm hopeful. I'm hoping that somebody you know somebody shot at. At least you know no absolutely i. It feels like it feels was like we do need something to because he's obviously sat here offer so like we need to. We need to know why like why this was such a hard decision for him to make you know Alamein right but yeah not only that when you just said delete saint. You made me think of like how insanely tight. The script is this is an an hour. And what forty minute movie. This movie is as long as misery like which we just covered this as long as misery and misery like that running. Time is Kinda justify because it's two people in one location mostly whereas this is a massive wealth with a kind of like a big Bass Gal plot like you know you've you've got to introduce this this whole concept of like aliens being among us like this movie does so much in an hour and forty and it doesn't feel rushed at all at the pacing is so on point. I love it. What do you think about that no for sure? I think that there is not really. It's it's a very tight script and there does hit a couple of points where it's like you know Edgar as his wife calls them Edgar Edgar just. Jj Right where he where he sees the cat and the thing around its neck. And it's like okay. I can buy that. Will Smith notices like the skyscrapers and Shit. And it's it's like okay so like basically we need something to kind of start tying all of this together because now it's time like it's just Kinda like time to get going because you know we're at that point we we need to get going like the like. There's the only thing I didn't really like about it is that There and and and again if I'm in you know John Q.. SCRIPTWRITER and I'm writing the script. You know when Edgar gets new the car with Laurel and he's like I needed to drive me here any shows or the towers you know will will Smith just figures out that he's going to the towers and take I mean. Yeah maybe but what. I really would've liked as if he's holding the thing as they drive off it goes out the window and he picks it up and he's I know where they're going. Okay cool like you could use the same visual reference like you could use something like that. Instead of. Just a coincidence coincidence is like a lazy screenwriters I best friend. NFL like coincidence was a pretty big thing in the light. The light non is that a Lotta script plot is used is right like it was like a like whereas neck now audiences audiences a much smarter. And they're like well. We're GONNA not really going to buy that eight more. Yeah Ryan you on the next day Jay heads back to Mit and meets up with K eh. Before y'all get beaming me up. He does a couple of things. I want you to understand first off. Utah has made so you recognize the skills and I don't want nobody calling me son your kid or sport or nothing like that and like immediately Kay calls him slick and apparently okay never called him. Those three things again like he finds like other variations of it. I love it I love it. It's just like still like nice little jabs here but it's never ever Lena Sun all sport or anything like that. It's it's brilliant a Anita tail. Any tell you something about your skills as of now they mean precisely nicely Dick and this is such great Zane man. This this set looks great. It's kind of like a customs aliens. It's beautiful that aren't really linger on anything too long. It's kind of like a little taste of like this sort of like massive open expansive world that you've just opened up and it's it's brilliant. It works you go past that the Al Killian who comes into a letter that big bald guy and he's being cleared through customs any efforts vegetables and this crazy looking thing and yeah I love this I love what do you think about 'em. IB headquarters it really really felt like Like like NASA in the movie like Apollo Thirteen like it or whatever the fuck it it feels like old school I feel like you know and obviously their look is very old school. They're they're discreet. It's timeless the black the white shirt and black tie that's ever going to go out of style. it's been prominent since the fucking thirties forties and fifties. So there is that really kind of old school. Look to them that I really enjoy and it seems like people should just be like chain smoking looking cigarettes with Lucy highs around you know it feels like it feels very like mad men to me. Yeah I I didn't get the madman vibe But yeah that's that's that's actually good fucking poll. Do they go over to these. Two aliens controlling this grain. What was the name? So it was like blurb and Bob. Yeah we got worse an Bob. I don't know if you caught this as he's talking did this case talking to j you notice the guy hanging from the ceiling and the background on over over like children's what's yeah if you go back it's like It's after it's when they're looking on the screen if you're looking at The the it's like literally the thirty six something thirty six forty nine minute mark. Like if you like. He's like I knew. Our teacher had to be some Venus. Oh it's actually. There's a guy is from the ceiling. I've watched this. I've watched this movie a dozen times. I've never caught that until this viewing in writing or just right right well. There's a huge space over his shoulder. And why I look and I was like there's a fucking person hanging from the ceiling like what the fuck that's beautiful that's fantastic. I've never realised that until now the I love fucking Sylvester stallone begging alien because that totally fits do. There's like George Lucas Builder Fokker. Apparently I think Barry Sonnenfeld it might be up there but I I can't one hundred percent tell red. He had a cameo as alien onscreen some points. It's like well there's a couple of months here might not be you know. Thus I can't I can't remember if it was this movie. I think it might be the second one actually now like sometimes like when they're in like Mit we headquarters like the memories of both kind of blend together. This isn't the one of the Michael Jackson is in no. That's that's the second one guy because Michael Jackson's axons unscreened he's like he's like he's dead. I can be agent. AM The fuck coup. Basically basically that says let's put it on put. What on the Lasso? You'll ever wear as best I will. Jay goes through the induction process gets re radios fingerprints delays his records. It's great it's kind of like by that he's potted pods elected governor this not really government organization. Right it's more of just like a sacred organization that's tasked to protect the world or even just you know. Protect our borders. It's good well. Do the the fingerprinting burning thing is like that next week. Grit mitee not my teeth every time but it also makes me laugh because it's like what happens. We do neural. Is these people and they get released back into society. I don't know like how far back arises them memories and I think that's what the settings behind like little neutralizes can do but yeah so edgar. Rocks up to Arisen Rosen Rosenberg's Rosenberg Rosenthal Rosenthal Rosenberg. Oh Rosenthal Rosenbach fuck mate. She's crossed the jewelry store. I know Jesus as Cross. That's it. That's the one with the cab but I love like I love at good driving the truck and like hell. Just how uncomfortably uncomfortably. He has to navigate his like limbs to get comfortable a look. Comfortable a look natural. That shit to me is my Harry Potter. Movie Dude like just him like navigating. The giant navigating Edgar's body. That's it's it's so fascinating to me like so fascinating Edna. Watch dude this shit with his arm as he like has to force it back into police and then once he once he drives off he has the most like the guy who thinks drunk guy who thinks he's about to get laid look on his face. It's just how and he just. Oh my God that I that part I laugh out loud at every time. Yeah and I've taught labor drunk I think is about to get light before out there. So that sends JFK. Many in the end is a lot of lettuce member. In this whole fucking thing John Cater this guy is not supposed to be outweigh is and well actually hold on before we before we get to that. The squid squid. Baby we get Rosen. Rosenthal Mating with the Big Al Killian Guy. and WHO's the Resin fucking bug. Jesus Christ you know what some Jewish Guy Right. It's But Yeah I love this man like dirt the gods stuffed under that little thing like just folded up. Holy Shit is that crappy dude. Yeah like that like again for a movie. That's supposed to be kind of a kid's movie. It's just kind of like right in between like holy faulk. What the what the hell? Yeah and man like it's you can kill us both but you'll never find what is it. You'll never find the galaxy. There's like he just fuck. It stops Andrew like playing plain as day. It's at the same time it's like well did no one really say but again at the same time it's like well that was fucking creepy like the way just stabs them with the little. The little antenna point is is and like immediately. And it's just like oh about that all right what the fuck do and I love. The the giant is lurch from addams family really. Yeah how good is that where you costs. It's awesome I love. The cat dislike like immediately jumping into action and I'd get tax off for the with the diamonds not knowing that the diamonds I love like as he's out on the street he raises his like his guy like pretending like normally just like a normal human bang. It's fantastic Jan.. Que Get to this Guy Reggie and his heavily pregnant wife. Let me see your other license. Johnson registration please. You know when I was a kid I was like man. How many fucking licensing registration fucking carry completely didn't realize that he had one for being an alien alien like that just went totally of my head when I was a kid and I was like damn? When you're a driver you have to carry around a lot of papers? Don't you do. Do you know who same here. Is's says he does like a lot of like absolutely dude. This guy looks exactly like saying. Oh my God I looked down and I was like Whoa Holy Shit now. It's like Oh wait there. Because same Harris's mom created the golden girls and as I guess a same here since fucking way dude. There's no way with was in minimum. That's fucking awesome. I didn't even catch that. I didn't I didn't really catch the likeness but yeah now that you bring it up damn did did you happen to catch this. Reggie characters like like his his identification for his alien license dude. Ah I knew this kind of fun. I saw out of the corner my eyes. That's kind of a weird looking. Yeah it's like not even human. I don't even know how the disguises is. What is this muscle touch and man like every time you say the trade the World Trade Towers in the back of his shot? It's just like ooh man man that's A. That's a lot of movies you know like I think spider man was like one of the only movies to dodge that bullet. And you're like man. I mean even just a shot of it like watching like ghostbusters. And you're like ooh like watching Seinfeld the other day and they're like. Oh yeah that guy. He sells t shirts in front of the world. Trade Center near like Huck. Yeah I had the same feeling pretty recently I Washington. I've been watching the Sopranos and like you know because it takes place in Jersey and they go and visit New York and there it is man. Fuck doc but yeah. Congratulations Reggie to squid this. Is Greg Gag man like just like them. Talking shop shop in the foreground in the background guys getting absolutely fucking destroyed. I don't usually like slapstick comedy but this is just funny to me right way and it's a cool way to like kind. They don't know it Kinda give a little bit of information. I wouldn't even really call it exposition. But like he's like what's going on. Why why is everybody running off the planet? You know what what the what the hell is going on. And I I really dig that. I dig the fact that they're giving US information. But it's like a visual comedic kind of thing at the same time it's very clever like this could've been something that was you know cookie cutter cut and paste kind of like exposition seen The the way the way like very much I like this movie like everything else. Maybe the way it's given is very entertaining. It's just totally just a blast to watch. They go check the hug shade. Send End Find Beatrice Interview Rod and they go and visit Beatrice and she invites men basically she tells them about what the police investigation included. They took a report written down. Everything said Zeh not believe one thing I said. Sort of pay making fun of me man. Do I love of Jay's little Spiel here Holy Shit this is great I love else I love story like after he needs allows near Elisa. He's like in a swamp. GAS LIGHT REFLECTED OFF DANA slug. It's it's great as soon as she says something about sugar water. He's thinking we're good by. I know exactly what's going on. Yeah now he's like he keeps adding onto it. He's like in fact you know what you kicked him out. Whatever whatever you get a second you might go to Bloomingdale's by yourself address? He's like he's like you gotta like what does he say he stresses. Get you some shoes. You know to hire a decorated accurate and again you hear Quick Day. Oh Dude yeah this this whole place was just like like. Is this eighty wilkes house out of misery. Like what the fire this looks. This looks like a fucking horrible. I would hate to be in this. Let's go out to the crash. Site is keeps up his like Paul. Please not green and calls. It said we got a bug but I love and what I love here as well is like the the nayed like well K.. Telling himself hoping that it's not grain that it's not a bug kind of like sets up the the against the notoriety of like the bugs like dino two main like Fuck this is what we're dealing with. This is going to be one dangerous foca whether we're going to be dealing with. I like it. I like giant cockroach message for you already. Complex real show tempera. Tehran around brand new sound like fun for a second there. You said you said giant cockroach. Yeah I thought you said Johnny Cockroach. That's my state. That's my stage name now Johnny cockroach other. You're going to say that you thought I said Johncock. I was like Oh that now. That works to Rosen Berg gets wailed into the morgue right with and with the cat lived with the Ryan and she goes to work working on him. She finds that his interiors and not exactly a normal. But Yeah Men In black show up which is weird. I'm Dr Leo Manville and this is the doctor Dr What he says. I'm Dr Leo Mando and this is Dr White. It's fantastic. Take but yeah they get into their get into a with with Puck and Fiorentina's tactical console looking at it and she's just didn't make women like this anymore animal dance. She is there something like she reminds me of the mom from Liar. Liar like which I just. Aw these women growing up I was like Oh my God you are so fucking hot out dirt title from lie ally. That's just like there is. They're working with something under there under those mom clothes I know you. Are you pregnant too nice. Jim Carey lucky wasn't Kerio isn't that movie. Is the carrier wins his the. Yeah the Khlong Long Jiri. I'm so glad my gift could bring them together. My plan to face myself out is almost complete. Jesus yeah they will out the The big guys the big guys body and like I love that like it's not not like like like like on this guy and then Jay walk over to to resin in fact may Rosenberg doing it. What I keep saying Rosenthal? I don't know why is there Rosenthal that we've talked about before recently. Is that a thing. I don't think so. I think you hate Jews. That's what I think's going on. Yeah I'd love you know Middle Name Adolf right I love if you're like is not even a real person. He's an alien calmed down. Meaning like that well. He's about to get cremated and his mall. Shame right no good but I love him to be this like jazz. Predictably this doctor is like notice. There's anything strange stomach liver lungs. Nope all fine doctor. They're all missing well of course. Yeah that's obviously the first thing I notice he's like he's like totally intact somewhere else. Like Damn I love. I like digging himself out of these oils right. There might be missing here but you know somewhere else. They're intact and man. This hold situation with this Achille million. I I use this as like an example like sort of like every time I say that's like someone is on mobile in my human like normal life. I always say that there is a little alien inside them controlling them and this is what I always picture. Oh God yeah I it it just it just makes me think of like And it makes me think of Oh fuck like the wizard of Oz just with some do behind a curtain a bunch celebrities like really quick like just give me a second here trying to work this body one hundred percent and not not only that but the the practical effect of his head coming Adin Shit and like the alien and that that looks. Doesn't that look fucking awesome. Dude like Baker did a fantastic job with the effects in this film. Okay so the aliens dying here. And he's like what is word he's like he's like trying to come up with the word belt. Yeah so apparently. The galaxy is on the rise belt Blah Blah which they have no idea what means and defined to prevent the wall. This this is a one line and that's all we given galaxy on around galaxy is on the rise. Bell doesn't make any sense like will Smith look that's what the little dirt inside the big dudes had said right now. I love when he's like when he's trying to say belt and he's yeah can't get it out out like a man. This seems like this seems really sad. Like what Harrowing Lights Pass Dude like all the lights powering down behind him as he dies. And you're like Holy Shit. Yeah I don't know why this little alien I was like. Is this Christopher Walken. I can think of when I'm looking at him little. Hit looks like little salient Christopher Walken to me. That's good man. The INAN alleyway fucking trying to opened the diamond. The diamond thing he does and he fucking loses his mind when he realized that it's not Not The galaxy right. I love love his erratic movements. Just kind of get pasta. Like I don't know what do not free I did to achieve this kind of level of robotic. NECE or like stiffness stiffness. I know that he did wear like neighb- races for the walking but like even his like the way like this jagged in his movements. It's it's fantastic. Oh and I don't want to go pass really quick when they're when they're at the morgue and he's like he's like flashy thing in the fuck outta doctor there man you're GonNa get your fucking brain cancer. Stop doing that shit like have you ever flashy thank you. Have you know because you wouldn't know right right. Exactly we'll get back to mix and match turns out he's got a he's got a loved one that he misses Kinda sad man is upset. Elizabeth Reston Those I. Yeah I love love. This whole scene is us. I so He's like They'll hold he's like the whole Lau old man Thanks finally come together. Like he's making fun of him. I basically it's like do. This is not the fucking time to like start. Busting some balls here because this whole yes. This whole scene is just so so fucking great is he's putting it all together you know he's like you're supposed to be bringing flowers that lady. Yeah she never got US flowers and itchy. No she did not well better love and loss and never loved it. All try it. It's like oh it's so good man just his delivery dirt. It's fantastic. Yeah that that breaks that whole intentions broken up when the Gillian's into the atmosphere right and yeah we came this close. It's too fucking wall or where we come this close to war all the fucking time. There's always an Killian battlecruiser death ray or something and I love this whole idea that like humans humans like us like when we have no fucking idea that happens ever. It's going to get their weapons K.. Guess is ask ask fucking rifle series for the demise was like now. That's what I'm talking about noisy crickets. He just ends it I do. He's like you gotta series for data Mazar and I got a little midget cricket woke it is great because it's like real like weapon play so he points it right at him and he's like I owe like it adds such a cool like I duNno. It's such a cool beat to that. Yeah we might be like these bad ass like intergalactic cots. I Still Watch for your fucking point that thing and it's fucking hilarious because it's like you're not going to expect like this fucking bang for your buck kind of thing. I mean like that's the ultimate weapon open right there. I look at how much damage it does look small. It is right right below and holes through semis and shit. Holy Shit did we'll get to that. The yeah fucking Amtrak's Rosenberg's Rosenberg's shop fucking. I love the way waltzes into starts breaking the gloss with his band stood. Ach God does that size as it's truck thing being tired and I love this type truck driver dude like so New York is like make sure you tell them down to the impound like Edgar pulls out his gun and he's like please right like nobody even threatens like nobody threatens like physical harm with hands or anything. It's just like just like Nah fuck. You got to go ahead yourself out and Edgar just straight up guy away like we we don't we don't see it. It happens off screen but like J comes out of that store. He's like the sound of a of gunfire and it's just as good just walking away with gun in hand just fucking blood somewhat and Y- Jay gives chase gets up and pulls out the the noisy cricket employs away a fucking truck flying as well dude the visual when he shoots the tow truck from the You know the the ship and the the bug the Bug van the visual of like the camera sitting still and him like like coming into frame leaning in the trash bags bags. That's one of the funniest. Like beat the whole fucking movie to see him just it. That's almost like a fairy edgar right thing letting the cameras since still on something come into frame seem like I love that kind of comedic framework. Tent Dune well. We're we're kind of a little halfway. Technically I forgot to take a break. You won't take a little break. Graham drink sounds good buck yet guys. We'll be right back with more men and bloods to go anyway. 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That pops up sorry. It's like the the countdown John is like. Sorry it's beautiful But Yeah Basically Edgar just losing his fucking mind. He gets the postcard cut. And the what is this. The the world's fair. This is a welfare right these discs. Yeah Yeah it's IT'S A it's a world fear yeah. I don't know how pulled out of my house. I didn't even look at that as well. I don't even. I don't even think they do it anymore. Yeah I remember seeing it. Is it in men in Black Metal Black Hawk did. I'm I'm so Friday right now. I am man right. I think it was an eye man on man to if I'm not mistaken it's like it's like his father presenting something something at the world's fair or something or even being captain America the the first one when they're in the forties still not all I think all I think about world's fairs now is how h h holmes just kind of ruined that one argo with like luring people into his wife Haunted Mansion Man Case Fall Mesa episode h arms. That shit is nasty. Roll up to up to say frank the Pug but I love like as Jay gets avenues like man that dude it is definitely an alien. That's the West just saying and it's like it's like the fact that Ed and frank that's the alien and the other guys like human. Why and is crazy looking at like frank and then like the little aliens in men in black like? It's all the cute stuff that people like from the first one that gets like double down bumped up in the sequel and Tacna. That was just kind of like a cool on the border thing. I don't need this to be like a main player. In the second one. In the further franchise you know what I mean like Frank. It's a little suit do. He's like a member of minute. Black really need that. You know it gets fucking annoying man like it's just like it's like I don't need this much frank like as a cute dog that talks. It's an alien cake right. Apparently this dog was a superstar like he was given a hotel to stay in and like like he was Super Pampa during the filming of this movie and the second one like it was like it was a thing. Like what the Fuck Doc Doug and it makes me. It makes me wonder how they got away with like shaking the Shit Outta this dog in the middle of the street I walk. You couldn't do that now. Let alone for like a movie. Like they're like shaking the fuck out of this little dog. Maybe it's like a dollar or something like I don't know frank says the galaxies here and that that that fucking rises some confusion if the galaxies here it's not an Iran's belt cut to Linda Fiorentino. I forget her name. What's his name again? Laurel Laurel. Yeah Dr Laurel. And she's doing some paperwork until until the cat jumps on a desk and she noticed it's necklace for the first time around us. Necklace is the galaxy mind. She's like well done. Like just GonNa put that right out there. I never really. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I don't know why it seems cheesy to me. What is it what is it about the same? It looks like she's watching an infomercial where they just like showed how to get these ace stains out of like your do like Teflon. Like that's really cool if you buy. Now we'll throw a second one for twenty nine ninety nine. Yeah that Shit. If you if you buy now we'll throw in an actual interest in comparison to the waning when you have now like it walks into the mall reception desk and who is that a great him call him Buck and David Cross Dude Right. A young young David Cross with somewhat relatively a lot of hair on his head not really. He's he's pretty terrible in this. I'M NOT GONNA lie the like when he's watched the bug and he's I do. What like? Oh God he's bad real bad like the part I love is Edgar being like a a man came into heroic cotton. I'll be back means worlds to me. I was like Oh means world's ads. Funny Lights Clever. Nice you know what tell you what tell you a little secret. Cohen never caught that until now never called that until now due to cracks me up. He's a photo. ID proof of ownership of the cap roof of of kinship to the deceased. But did you fucking it always freaks me out to like the the cockroaches that escaped from his slave. Dude Fuck. Oh and the like the decomposition of him as well like is turning like milky Elke white and the skin. It's like Holy Shit. Yeah as the movie progresses it's fantastic By the way David Cross is also in the second film but he plays a different character in Thailand. Highly like as this conspiracy guy who lives with his mother. And he's like he's like mom got any mini pizzas like his yes. It's per perfect for him. Yeah a beer men in black rock up a bit slow I love. I love jazz reception and low. He's like digging the thing thing guys to Laurel this. I'm sergeant Friday from the Twenty Six exp precincts and hiding beneath the table and I love how ten years and like. She's trying to get him to look on the nave and he's just. He can't switch on switch off the charismatic side of himself. He's like even. Yeah even to the point of Edgar Gerber. Like Oh my God and makes me think of in young Frankenstein when Frankenstein is choking the shit out of gene wilder. And they're trying trying to play like the charades to do the Senate the Senate if thing. And there's a point Reggie Watts and looks up at the Frankenstein. And he's like what the flock in the Frankenstein role he's I know right like like you know the villain is in on it dude. I love that Shit Reception K.. goes to a lot of cigarette and fucking WHO's up there on the ceiling? But David Cross who reveal. Laurel says this on the engine that she needs help with helps with help with fuck on. Yeah this whole thing just explodes. I love like hey just coming in. And pulling out the the pistol from his from his suit pocket and and Yeah what do I have to do is sing for you. Well if you he thinks he's coming like she's coming onto him dead it's probably showed up And at what point do you just below. Laurels brains out. You're like fuck cocoa and you just shoot him. Like what point. Do you like this guy. I mean they're they're gonNA destroy our planet the Galaxy is right there like fucking shoot her. Yeah you'RE GONNA way up like the good of the many economic situation right right. Yeah this fucking like d like this degrade Christina Ricci like just what talking. Shit Nice never thought Christina Ricci was this was going to put that out there. I want both boo. Hoo hotness closet. Nice that's GonNa come in day as a taxi in the funniest why I love this. This guy did this taxi driver fucking chases after him like it's his like his life depends on it now. I gotta ask is it. How Oh racist is it? When like when like J. shows up and he sees his little like religious thing on the ground he's like he took a taxi man? Yeah you know what Jay has a problem against taxis. Taxi drivers in particularly in this thing. Like it's a it's like A. It's like like he's been wronged by taxi drivers in the past. But maybe it's just a New York thing But I love J. Like immediately taking off the taxi like the other the direction and just so cool calm and collected about it. He's just like I'm going to go this way. Meanwhile like Jay's in the middle of the street like you know hunting down every refunded taxicab like taxicab even like pulls out the noisy Mosey cricket in. Someone's face pull Boston but Yeah K- uses reasoning rooks up in the forward and he's like you know what he's not leaving the planet a cab. Let's go it's good but yeah so the alarm awesome Sam Beckett. MIB Headquarters and Yo- old guys and this is what he said. Yeah I I do like that line like he's like. Hey Hey all guys a whole room just stops right but yeah. I didn't understand what you mean like. He like he kind of like immediately figures out that that he's headed towards the welfare welfare which is kind. Go all right go all right. I guess I guess there's no you know ships in the aerial maybe right how. How was there protocol? Not the first thing of being like what are deactivated spaceships. Someone could get up and running in the next hour Legg Dr. How was that not one of the first things you checked on your list absolutely did? It's like that should be priority number one. I mean remember when we talked the town and like the robbers alike. It's hard the cops are trying to hunt down the robbers and the first thing they do is shut down the bridges. That's what they do here. That's what they should do here. But Yeah K and j headed towards the WHO else fair and man. I always love this as a kid. The Ford turning into this fucking jet car that drives the ceiling. This is always a great visual. May do in an even without the jets. I love that car. That is a fucking cool car to really dig it. It's beautiful they go. They Econo- I've aboard in the next film icon Ra. What will car was? I think it was a Bam w constantly remember it might have been an Audi. I always liked his exist classic. Look I just love. How in control like like ks and like his full on his singing is swinging? His head ups doubted shed. and Jay's like main while trying unlike navigate his way inside the he's GonNa fade pressed up against the windshield and I love the fact that it's it's not a CD or tape. It's an eight track. Yeah what the fuck did and it doesn't. Cj doesn't look that day added not on the car. Yeah on the car it looks fine I think I think a lot of their. CGI is is is really not that bad added. It's it's not. It's Kinda use sparingly. You know it's not used a lot right and you can definitely tell Rick backup really prefer to use practical effects of a digital effects effects one last little touches when they exit the toll and like he throws the change back into the toll. The love it fucking slick did I. I remember when we used to have tolls because now we have the tags when we used to have tolls man. I used to be like dead. Why don't you try that like a fuck and like not realizing that totally impossible to pull off a totally illegal? Basically the giant riot is trying to climb up the Up to the. What is the fucking salsa? The towel whatever you WANNA call it my question is why bring her along right. I mean yeah you say that you need you know you might need a snack but then like immediately ditch like I'll fly out the LA. What does it? Why think she kicks him and like he loses loses grip and she falls and he's like fuck it you know it's like if you needed a snack just eater right now like fuck it? Just eat gator and get it over with. Yeah I mean because movie because movie. Yeah apparently this ending was changed around quite a bit I I can't. I didn't go into specifics in research about like how much was changed. But I do know that Rick Baker built a actual giant bug and they didn't even bother using it. Well actually what ended up happening is like Sonnenfeld and the other Radha data right as J and K kind of like they're trying to what's the word. What's the word kind of like doc? Talk this does it took an egg. It's like an excess. It's like an existential debate. Yeah Yeah it's it's Motoki and then it led really led him to gain sonnenfeld unrealized. I'll share there's no action be action. And that's when they commissioned this bug right like this cockroach they say cost them four point five five million dollars to rent the rent of this thing and I didn't even use Rick Baker's practical effects creature which is a shame. Yeah I 'cause I really WanNa see I really WanNa see what the what the actual bug looks like that wrinkle bill you know. I wonder if there's any images online me too I'm GonNa like you know what fuck and and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa go have a little hunt after this is I have looked at a special features or something because that'll be really interesting. Yeah I mean four point five million dollars and it doesn't really he doesn't even look that great to be honest looks pretty dated. I mean I guarantee your Rick Baker's practical effects whatever that was probably would have held up a lot better like the Gaza fucking Mazda are. I've always loved this flying salsa above the stadium and like man just the way they shoot it down beyond like K.. Is just such a fucking barracas man like jazz looking over at him and he's like hey we should probably move probably probably move live. Jesus staring it down to love the dirt. Love everything about this whole crash sequence. Looks fucking fantastic. What do you mean by this? I dig it man and like I. I know a lot of people say that the the CGI of like the Roach when it actually gets off the thing you know and it rips off the Edgar sued has kind of data. But I'd like it. I don't think it really looks that I mean if you this is good. CGI Ninety seven compare it to bad CGI twenty nineteen and it still looks better than bad. Cgi I today. I think it actually looks. I think it actually looks pretty good by that. Yeah I'll tell you what looks really good like. When when he's walking down the ramp of the of the ship and got his hand behind his head and he he starts ripping the skin off from the back of his head? That practical effect of the Roach like just kind of like Oh man. It's fucking brutal. Few seconds overby matter it looks beautiful did Grad but Yeah Katy goes out pretty fucking quickly your gets developed by the fucking Roach and bye bye. Kay also he thought I would love man I really really wish they held off on this inside of the body shot like I wish we thought thought that was actually dead and not inside swimming this whole time. It thumb accents why I think once he says I'm going to go get my gun back. You're like I think I know what he's I know what he's going to go. Do the visual Tommy Lee Jones. Like somebody who so not like loud and jumping jumping and expressive. You slimy talking intestinal parasite. Hey may him like like Moore like his head like wobbling like Oh my God. That's so fucking funny man to show like this. He told me Tommy Lee Jones that we just talk that we talked about in country for old men like in a right right. Well apart. We'll big willie style Gets into it with this cockroach. There's not some that much here man. Like he gets his Oscar until he gets thrown against this dumpster. And I love this Clark rush thing by the way man always fucking I can creep me out by. How many cockroaches a just full out of that dumpster when he kicks that thing? Yuck oh the best part of this whole thing thing is when he picks up the rock he hit in the head and then he picks up like something else a hit and it doesn't even look back at just use a sidelight to punt him like across the yard rushing. I was like dude. I die laughing at that because it could. It can't be fucked can't even be bothered to like stop and fuck with this dude. Yeah and like I mean like the love that in villain sometimes man like I mean like it's just like Cape continuing with your journey. Keep continuing with your check. Don't fuck with the insignificant shed they can just just leave behind in a second and I ultimately I love what ends up getting his attention right like he fucking stepping on his family. He's like Oh that must have been yong-chol it's great. It's smart clever. I like it but yeah this action sequence doesn't go for too long. I wouldn't even call it an action Sakes Really Mike. It's it's more of a fucking bait down and then like cages blas the cockroach open from inside Ed and boom. That's that's it also. We think they finally galaxy inside the cockroach and I love like L.. Like as sitting there in the background you say like half of the though the body can like moving if you keep looking in the background that it does a little jump scare and boom. There's can yarn tena holding the all the gun. Like a fucking man chief she. She looks so good. Holden I gone. Looks fucking good she does yes basically. We wish the Enron this this is them at the outside headquarters and K basically says. Oh they're beautiful aren't they. Basically what day says of the Stop that right and he wants to get he wants to forget about this. He wants to lead a normal life. He wants to this kind of gets. It's me because because he's such a good actor in this moment and like Jay has no fucking idea what he's talking about is like I've been training a replacement and end Khandu job myself. And he's like a fucking cut over to the right and lecturer onto your ISO yet. They're just looking looking so good. I can't deal with you this movie dude debt and I I love I love a Tommy Lee Jones right here and he she cyclists and being in that book like stomach is one of one hundred memories. I don't want anymore I've done like I don't WanNa do this shit anymore. I love the fact that somehow they are cleaned and pressed in squeaky clean cleaned by the time they get back to headquarters but somehow left her looking like shit. That cry cracks me up. I know she saved your life like you can. You might might be I don t drop her brother dry cleaners take you to a JC. Penney letter gets new clothes like the or asked to step in the show with you. I mean come on right it gets a keg. It's near lives and we open up on the next day with the next day. I Guess Sometimes Times Pas because she is now a woman in black and cure Internet trolls who alike. Oh they're being progressive. There could be a women. Do q the fucking terrible suit that he has like my God. It is bad late nineties. Early two thousand dollars like you can like fucking in some matrix bullshit. Yeah what the fuck dirt. He looks like he looks like he's about a taste karate. Roddy like I feel like. That's what's happening right now Even into the sunglasses like the Dushi Round Circle Sung. I was like Oh my God. It's talked it's fucked up but yeah that's bad for you. And she never comes back in the sequel. She's barely even. I didn't even think she's mentioned. But one of my favorite sort of ways to end the movie and a movie that has so many high concepts. That's kind of like you know dealt out to the audience. Pretty cleverly is this like we zoom out and keep zooming out until let's just like the planet earth is like a bunch of models that had been played with by John fucking alien ungodly giant. I love that I did. It can love that. What about I dig it because it shows them looking for this galaxy the whole time when in reality you're also you know we're just this this tiny thing I I love what frank says he goes? You know you humans you think this is actually still matters. You know fucking dig that even our galaxy is. Is it a intergalactic the galactic game of marbles basically absolutely. Yeah no I love that whole idea of like where we are so insignificant a AH basically everything is doesn't matter because we Being played with by a giant fucking alien boom. I love this movie dude. That's that's fucking men in black. Foia Shit I I had to. I had to look this up in men in black. Two Agent L. is Laurel She does not appear but but she is mentioned once. Jay Explains that L. apparently wanted to return to working as a medical examiner. So that's how lazy that's sake lizard like you. You know what I mean. It's just like fucking series right now like after the events of this movie. She's just going to go back to being a medical examiner. He fucking getting MIRA so now right right. Yeah Yeah we don't have any fucking Mansa. GimMe a final thoughts on men in black man. I I really enjoy it. I think it's just one of those. You know you revisit it and I think you forget about it and it's like man you know. Oh yeah men in black. That's cool movie. Whatever and then when you go back and watch and you're like man? This this is underrated. It's a good movie and I mean it's a crack any of my top west like no not really but it's a movie that everybody should see at least once. It has a very interesting interesting kind of quirkiness to it and that dry humor that that only works in like something. It's almost like how a reminds me a lot of the first ghostbusters. That kind of like you know the fish out of water like I don't really know what I'm doing like kind of kind of thing but like trying to to try to quantify and tame the untameable this wild crazy chaotic world that happens and the stuff that you know I think that I would. We'd love to see a mash up of like the ghostbusters. The M. I. B. and the The B P R D from hell boy the Brotherhood appear Paranormal Research in defense. Like I love with John. Hurt says in that there are things that go bump in the night and we are the ones who back and I love any kind of story about about that like the unknown heroes that save people from like the paranormal and ghost and Goblins and show that I I love that kind and if I I've always right well I've I've always wanted to write a script about like future. Ghost busters like people in like armor. Who like the world all this coming to an end and more ghost coming up and it's become like I'd love to see it ghostbusters? Movie where it's like there are ghostbusters like cop precincts like there's multiple double ones throughout the US and shit like that. I would love to see something like that. Yeah I'm a sucker for any kind of story like that. Like ghost cops. Basically putting you know somebody chasing in down like passes and shit like that or Pesci. However you say that but you know I? I'm I liked this movie. I think my preferred men in black was cartoon because it was just readily available and I gobble that shit up like all fucking two seasons of it And it's really cool. I think you can find auto episodes on Youtube. If you want to check out. Its older cartoon. I loved the style of it like I said. This movie's really really unique. It's very different and you know I think unless you have if somebody with this kind of sensibilities like Barry Sonnenfeld behind the camera. You're gonNA get something like men in black international say go added. Yeah this is an absolute fire. What one of my favorites men like? This is something that I can always keep coming back to and I love this because it's not just it's not just with children as not just for adults like this is this hits your four quota sort of like audience and it's fantastic. It's smarter modern than it is smarter than it has any right to be and I think it. I think it gets most of that from the comics. I'm not sure like this is it's inventive entity it's creative and it's clever and it's witty and it's just like man like bolstered by two amazing amazing performances and look big Willie style pot of that too like you good but you're just doing what you were talking about the pullman says I'm talking fucking Tommy Lee giants and I'm talking okay Donald Free. I like those too fucking killing this movie and like it wasn't until relatively recently that I realized that how fucking in Good Tommy Lee Jones is in this movie like you know when they will talk about his roles they always talk about Ni- Contra for all men that are always talking about the fugitive. No one brings up men in black and like I think people should because that just shows this just shows how much range this guy's got in automation. It just shows what he's capable of like you know there was is that there's always that famous story about like in. When he met Jim Carey for Batman forever? He literally guys up to Jim Gary and he's like I cannot. I cannot stand you I cannot sanction your buffoonery and then like yeah that is a quiet and if you watch that movie is literally. It's Tommy Lee Jones trying to to act in competition with Jim Carey. He's trying to gin up. Jim Carey Jim Carey. ECON Jim Carey. Jim Carrey's just not something it can happen. And he see Tommy Jones ends up becoming comes off from the he gets the shaft on that one because Detroit is something. That shouldn't it'll be done ever so I think this is how you use fucking Tommy Lee Jones to it like this is how you use an older sort of grizzled serious actor. Who's for serious roles? Yeah this is this is fantastic and mad. Got Dunga missed out of Mexico. Because I've just been talking about it for house. Fantastic just amazing to wash free our goddamn genius yeah. This is a fantastic movie. I'd recommend this to anyone of all shapes and sizes of all ages all colors. Whatever is such a fantastic entertaining adding Erin forty minutes that just flies by and has always a joy to watch calling? You got anything else to say before we get the fuck out you know man. Just thanks for listening guy six. Thanks for hanging out. I'm glad to Abbad dipped artaud in the men in Black Universe God knows mortgage around. Because it's pretty much a downhill slope from this one. 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#182: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 1  Men In Black (1997)

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#182: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 1 Men In Black (1997)

"Between the past. Or someone pass. Antoon take possession of living. We may be through with the path, but not through with us. Welcome to next picture show, a movie of the week podcast voted to a classic film, and how it shaped our thoughts on a recent release. I'm ki tips, here with Scott Tobias janitor Caskey and taught Robinson every week, we get together to talk over a classic film, consider how it relates to occur movie this week will look at the beginning, and the likely end of a franchise featuring weird aliens, cool gadget sharp suits, and it's pretty laid back attitude about the presence of aliens on earth. Tasha tells about this week's pairing. I was planning on it, but it says, in the script tasha speaks, unintelligible alien language. That includes syllables never heard before on earth, and is occasionally, interrupted by the sounds of a wet Gill opening and closing. I don't know if I can do that. Right. Well, I just did gender even Dan could lay that over in post production. Right. It was really cool in my extremely funny, introverted depends on it. K- genevieve's. Gimme a look that says we don't have the resources or budget for that. So maybe take more straightforward approach and it just worked myself up to the point of making wet Gill noises. But fine whatever our story begins either in the nineteen fifties, when humanity I made contact with beings from other planet, or the early nineties when a small publisher released a comic book called the men in black, which eventually caught the attention of Steven Spielberg, who was looking to produce more movies, and always how soft spot for stories about extraterrestrials after bouncing from director to director and star to star it landed in the hands of Barry Sonnenfeld, who is enjoying a kind of hot streak. Thanks to. The Addams family films and Get Shorty and it landed as it stars, Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith. And perhaps just importantly, it recruited special effects. Great Rick Baker to design. It's fantastic creatures despite being a movie starring characters with the ability to make those around them. Forget what had seen it made a deep impression on movie goers in the summer of nineteen Ninety-seven. It also inspired three sequels including the new men in black international, which is currently not making deep impression in the summer of twenty nineteen. We'll talk about that in next week's companion episode tasha that was informative but I can't help. But think it what is a lot, cooler Ilian language, whatever maybe in the sequel if this episode goes well we should be back with a much bigger budget next year. Right. We worked for a highly funded yet. Unofficial. Government agency. We'll take it from here, INS division, six. There is no division six. Our mission. Is to monitor extraterrestrial activity on earth. You're all here because you're the best of the best. And for one of you. From now on, you'll have no defying marks of any. We're no part of the system. We are the men in black. No differences between you and me. I make this look good. Series four DMI's. That's what I'm talking about. Deutsche cricket feel like I'm a break this damn thing. Spreader. We have a buck. Unlimited technology from the whole universe, and we who's around in a Ford peel. S C. Now, we got to work on your people skills. Every once in awhile is star enters a stretch where they can seemingly do. No wrong in the mid nineties. We'll Smith became such a star. The sort of actor create interested in movie, just by appearing in it, even tough to sell project like men in black Smith, previously. How blockbusters concepts kind of sold themselves. He played a mix his own rules, cop in bad, boys. Opposite Martin Lawrence and a fighter pilot in the alien invasion. Movie independence day opposite, while bunch of aliens, and that film was helped by star power, but also by the trailer in which the both at the White House, basically, anyone who saw it can stop talking about it. But minute block was a little trickier. It's also alien invasion movie, but only sort of it draws on Philo about mysterious agents. And that sort of Lord attracted new, interesting, the X files in the nineties, but the concept still wasn't a well known idea. What did know was Smith? And co star Tommy Lee Jones, whose then join a surgeon popularity of his own thanks to the fugitive and the marketing for Sonnenfeld film sodas an unlikely, buddy comedy. Based around to different variations on the same style of movie star cool part of what makes minimum bucks. So remarkable is delivered exactly what the marketing promised Jones's Beth practically float through a droll understate at science fiction comedy in which they do a lot by doing so little boat. Deliver reforms as it grow more understated, the crazier the story around them becomes alien baby deliveries talking pugs potential end of the world. It's just another day at the office for these guys. The film succeeds by underachieving leans heavily on. It's fun premise, that aliens live among us and half for a long time. And hey, that's mostly fine. We need a little law and order to keep everyone in line but not too much on order, because that wouldn't be cool. And he wants to work that hard anyway, written by Bill and Ted's excellent adventure curator at Solomon, though, the script apparently changed quite a bit. And Sonnenfeld towns, it also uses aliens to offer its own vision of America. Sometimes sly about it. Smith's agent j brings both diversity perspective younger generation to the men in black and his team with Jones Asia K put the story of torch being. Past. Sometimes it's not subtle at all. The opening scene finds agent k and is soon to retire partner, dismissing some overzealous unto bright border agents who've stopped a truck filled with would-be emigrants. The message seems to be that we live in a nation big enough for all sorts and all points of view, so long as we remember not to get in each other's way. And when we do, that's what you need people like agents, j, and k people can step in take care of business than step out, again minute. Black is a weird sort of blockbuster one that pairs Rick baker's out their designs with a bizarre. Vincent Nafi performance, but mostly it glides on rye jokes and running gags, that don't call too much attention to themselves like agent k incessantly needling agent j with nicknames like slick, and as ended a ninety summer landscape, typically filled with heroes who win by as much as possible as loudly as possible minute. Black stood out with protagonist tried not to break a sweat whenever possible and happily slip back into the shadows at you're getting the job done there professionals who follow a code of ethics and here to set of ideals on the job is over. They prefer forget they were. Ever there. Dini cinnamon until we only got the power stuff creepy. And I hate this at black. Good. Work. So you're in. You don't want some coffee. So what is our relationship with your, the I feel like we're kind of cycling through a bunch of while we let them cable movies is this one for everyone else. I mean, I have really strong memories of seeing this one in the theater, like this was a as you kind of, mentioned in the keynote part of a string of nineties blockbusters in the heyday of Will Smith. And I, I saw all those movies in the theater, and I remember liking men in black may have been seen multiple times. But I was also extremely grossed out by all the bugs stuff and was again, this time, but was able to kind of appreciate the artistry behind it a bit more than when I was fifteen or whatever when this movie came out, so I liked it, but it also wasn't a movie I particularly gravitated toward on, on a rewatch, because I did find it pretty pretty gross. But that's just kind of my personal hangup with it. But I I really enjoyed coming back to it this time. It's a movie that my fiance loves a lot and has seen so many times. So it was kind of special to watch. Watch it with him, w I'm not sure that I did watch this movie a billion times. I, I remember seeing the theater and really enjoying it and I probably seen at one or two times since then, but it's been a quite a long time. And I was really surprised on a bunch of different levels, how well it holds up in terms of the special effects in particular a lot of special effects from the time. Do not look good these days, but this movie looks pretty seamless to me, the characters the aliens, like they, they all just kind of like blend in and it doesn't have a feeling of being kind of out of time in terms of its pacing, and we'll, we'll talk more generally about its pacing. But this movie just holds up. So surprisingly, well, and some of that's the charisma some of it's really tight script. Some of it is just the pacing. It's kind of amazing like how well it fits into today's blockbuster pacing without exceeding. It or overdoing it or aping, it, it's. A quick moving movie. That doesn't feel rushed. Yeah, I'd say out, does it even I our friend, Rachel handler at her. Former dissolved co didn't interview the taught to Sonnenfeld incident aprio about history forms, but Sonnenfeld kind of kind of taught about a bunch of things and about how he just like, you know, his secret just to cut stuff that wasn't funny. You know, just like talk about how there's a funny movie and bad boys two if you cut out like an hour or you know, but yeah, that's kind of moving on, I guess a little bit. But yet the way it moves is it is really tight, and there's not wasted in a film that feel like is kind of creates the allusion of being a slack film, kind of an unhurried hang out movie even though there it is a pretty, well, put together piece of filmmaking in that sense. Honestly, I of went up to say they watched this movie a lot on cable because I just couldn't imagine that was the case I hadn't does that it's not really my experience. I may have seen it once theaters. But I thought minim- block to was such a poor sequel that kind of didn't really feel the need to visit this one that much. Still haven't seen men in black three which I could hear back. I'll check it out. Check it out. I it I really cheap dealing all of his first removes on, Blu Ray. So I own men in black three. So why not watch it? At some point you should it really is kind of a bounceback from the second one but to echo, what everyone else. Well, first of all, I mean I saw this when it came in theaters enjoyed it has been very sticky in the culture has been something that has turned up a lot on cable, and it's one of those things if you are watching TV and flipping by it. I mean why not watch it? I mean it's utterly watchable and entertaining. And there's not really a part of it where you're where you feel like checking out, it's just it's it's constantly on the move. This is a movie that is ninety eight minutes long. But the action ends at ninety minutes like the rest of it is just credits. And you just don't you never see that anymore? And we kind of filmmaking values that it takes to produce a film like that. I missed so much. I found you know that because because you know with it, we'll talk about when we talk about the new one but you modern blockbusters are so. Bloated. And so concerned with world building mythology in, in, in franchise extension that when you just see this movie, which does at least seem to be a stand alone thing, and not something that's necessarily thinking multiple sequels done the line. It just makes such a huge difference in to be just, you know catapulted through the story in the speed that you are just know there really isn't an ounce of fat on it. And I think that's a real reflection of Sonnenfeld to who, who was who started as a cinematographer for the early Coen brothers films. And, and I think probably has their sense of just what a good script is and how, how to manage production in the tightest possible way. Apparently, it was a fairly actually fairly production in many ways. Oh, yeah. Seinfeld is, is if you ever see him interviews, he's sort of nakedly, neurotic, and, and, you know, it's part of his, his personality, but I've done a lot of second guesses himself a lot. And apparently, there was a little bit of that on. On this other it doesn't show it all works out. Yeah. I do wanna sidebar just a little bit on. Why, why don't we get these titan ninety minute movies anymore? Like even comedies like comedies used to be pretty reliably. Like if you go over eighty minutes, you're probably boring, your audience, and movies these days in theaters. It seems like the expectation is that you want to nudge, just under the to our Martin really like Netflix releases are almost consistently at the ninety minute, Mark or you know they're the standard. Netflix zone seems to fall pretty squarely around around that thing to where like now. It doesn't feel like enough movie. I mean, people are paying so much to see films. They want a large experience. And then something that is going to be a tight ninety minutes is not necessarily what a modern blockbuster was all about. And I wonder though, I think I wonder if you've put out like a movie like this, it is tight, and, you know, nothing, you know, no, no bad. Scenes, nothing. It doesn't work and get you out of theater. Appreciate it might actually be fine. I think with comedy, I think I is not decide which I think appetite kinda like show that comedy's broke the rules by making long comedies, and people who are less his movies are without fat. But people that are less skilled than him at making comedy, his have kind of example, to, to the forms, detriment movies have gotten longer and longer as they've become more and more geared towards like, I'm going around up every funny person, I know in give them a chance to riff, and there's less that it's not funny up to this level, and we keep moving the bar up, depending on how funny the funniest stuff is we're gonna cut it his like you can't do that. Because then you're cutting like four of your friends out of the moving. And what if the isn't funny people like two and a half hours long, or does it just feel that way to build off sort of the appetite point? It's funny Scott and keep you said, basically the exact two answers I had for this sidebar question which is. The value proposition. People want more movie for their money in also the sort of way comedy has shifted a post appetite in. I think it film comedy. Now is feels a lot more riff based in like bits just go on longer. There's more like the style of comedy where now it seems to be very like reaction dependent or maybe like drawing. Joke out a little longer than feels comfortable in you get a laugh out of that in those definitely to jump ahead there. Some of that style of comedy in men in black international in original Amena, black. It's just like the jokes that are there their jokes. They're written jokes. They're delivered his jokes in. It's not to people riffing, you know, or like drawing the joke out a little farther. You joins joke even. Thing about this movie is that it really it's an expensive movie, and it's got these really striking exciting special effects. But the core of it are very old fashioned values in terms of comedy, film, making you, you have a fish out of water story with Will Smith entering you know, as just a normal cop introducing this crazy universe to us. And then you also have mismatched buddy comedy where this very sharp contrast between his personality in time Jones personality. And both of those things create just really nice comic sparks. I mean, it's sometimes it's just that simple to have those nice contrast going to give you the comic tension that you need in the film does plays off that really well, and you also kind of have the classic comedy DO of the kind of like sloppy brash loud person versus the stiff uptight seeming, perpetually, angry agai that, that's as much of a, like a specific comedy. Trope. As, as buddy cops or you know, rookie versus veteran, but I also feel that they're kind of puts Makino, but I kind of feel like ultimately, you see, they're kind of the same sort of cool. In a way, you know, we'll miss sort of the three point over Asian of whatever Tommy Jones is in a way, which is like a little bit slightly different attitude. But at the same kind of kind of detachment sarcasm, the tiny Jones has I don't know. I think part of the film's journey is kind of recognizing how much they're like, I think Tommy Lee Jones, his aged to a point where he's not performing about it anymore like, well Smith is kind of actively booking. Authority. And Tommy Lee Jones us come to the point where he knows he just doesn't have to care about a thirty but he doesn't have to make a performance out of it anymore. So they're both kind of coming from the same place and Tommy Lee Jones, more or less. Actively says that it doesn't have a problem with will Smith's problem with authority with his acting out, and you can see that it's because, you know, he appreciates it. It's fine with him. But he also doesn't he doesn't fight it. He doesn't give into it. He doesn't fight it. He almost ignores it. And that's just kind of one of the. A delightful things about it is the bigger Will Smith plays, it the tighter Tommy Lee Jones plays it and it's just it's a really good dynamic. So that kind of brings up a question I wanted to pose just like everyone else's read on specific scene, which is a scene that I like a lot in this movie, which is win. K brings in Will Smith, who is not J when, when he brings them into men in black for his sort of test. Whatever are all the, you know, straight laced military dudes there are they actually also being dishes. Having as well. Yeah. I think that those are all the people that said played by rip torn recruited, and those are the kind of people that they normally recruit. And that lake Tommy Lee Jones knows he's looking for replacement for himself. He doesn't want a humorless un-imaginative self-important military, man. He wants somebody else who can book authority and make decisions on his own and played by the, the seat of his pants like I think that you get the sense from Zad that k- actively recruited Jay like without asking anybody's permission and without doing any serious vetting. He was just like I like this guy. I brought him in and that is disapproving of him in part because it's like these people have, like military experience and we know everything about their background. Like, I think he expects one of them to make it through, and he's perpetually annoyed that, like ks. Booking system Rideau set up, a great contrast though, between Will Smith and everybody else, though, the that I'm sure that Tommy Jones, obviously wants. You know, he wants somebody to be able to say, I'm not gonna be a conformist. I'm not going to fall in line. Like all these other guys. I'm gonna do my thing, and it's also another example of the film, you know, getting really solid laughs. You know you know with the production design with in with Will Smith dragging that table over so he can so he can get written up just it's clever. It's just taking advantage of, of seeing getting getting the absolute most out of it. Seriously clever about sequence where they're all trying to take the test in dealing with broken pencils and fragile paper and overly aggressive seals and no place to write is that another film would have everybody else in the room, incredibly competent at it and Will Smith floundering until he does something unconventional. The fact that they're all having the exact same problems, and that you just know from moment. One that this is part of the test, and that they're all equally struggling with it. I think is just a brilliant piece of comedy and just cutting so quickly between all of the different kinds of problems that they're having all of the different kinds of lame solutions. They're coming up with into Will Smith cuts through it. It's maybe the most extended comedy bit in the film, except possibly for the pug, shaking sequence. And it still didn't last long enough free to get tired of it one thing that I will say to about this film is the star power is a big part of it as well. I mean, particularly Will Smith. I mean, there's somebody who you immediately connect to him as a straight up movie star. He's just got so much so much charisma and force in like you, you're, you're ready to follow him right through the story. You know, you don't need to find some character way to make him interesting to just, you know, this is just somebody who you connect with. And that's you can't really I mean, I guess you can put a price on that. It's a very, very high price. Hollywood. Specials something that he has. And in a reason why he was such a dominant, you know, star at that time in a way that we don't have right now really isn't it also strikes me as interesting that this movie Cain after batboys and independence day, which his character in this movie calls back to both of those movies, in kind of, you know, very Broadway's, but I mean, obviously, there's the alien connection to independence day, and there's a sort of buddy cop, you know, setup to, to bad boys. So his presence in this film has these sort of links to previous successes of his I can't say whether that was purposeful by any one or if audiences made that connection in their head. But it seems strategic you know in the in the arc of will Smith's career, and specifically his nineties, blockbuster era, a few part of what makes Will Smith so compelling is that he is very good. Actor like Ali and things a little outside his comfort zone covers things where he's a little outside. Like what comes out, you know match we can see him working little bit. He's great. But when you just let him be Will Smith like he has is here. He's also eight. I mean, it's kind of like Scott said as the movie star, charisma, you just can't really work to get you to use kind of have it. So you think he makes this look good kind of? He's very infectious smile and really infectious swagger. And, and one of the reasons that's interesting to me is so much letter day filmography is about a like racing all of that. And, and playing things is serious in grim and heavy as he can. It's like somewhere long months somebody told him that serious actors, don't smile. And he's done so many movies that are just like pack on the gravitas, until he can't move or brief here. He feels like the fresh prince, like he feels just very loose limbs, and willing to be silly. And you see him be soulful in this movie you see him be serious. You see him BA thoughtful, you see him be angry. But you also see him just kind of fronting in, in a big silly outside way you see him being goofy and incompetent you see him being a competent, but, but completely overtaxed and overstrained, it's a really wide variety of the human experience for ninety minutes of silly science fiction action comedy with regard to his recent performance. Is I'm guessing you have not seen the film Aladdin? I have seen the film lab, which return to return of sorts to the silly Wilson of old. But I, I would say they're a couple more things about Will Smith is that, you know, on the one hand, he does have that kind of transcend it movie star quality to him. But he's also that this everyday guy who people can relate to who can bring us into this story and bring us into this world, and we can experience, his on is confusion, his laughter. I mean, all of these things that he's he, he seeing for the first time we're seeing for the first time and we connect to him just so easily, and it makes everything flow in a way because that's, that's what you want from a movie like this, because, you know, it really has a big job to do to, to be ninety minute movie that, that is introducing this entire subculture of the secret agency. That is managing aliens who are everywhere on the planet and are some many are good. Some are some are not so good. And they have to keep tabs on all. Stuff. That's a huge story to introduce even before you get to the plot elements with Vincent off Rio. And I think by attaching itself to Will Smith. And in, in that cash, the film leads us through these complications in such a fluid, and engaging way it enough Yoshitaka about him. That's fun. That's a pretty as Rachel's article point out that it is not a. Probably made some people. The studio a little nervous because he is pretty daring. But it so it's the right performance for them. He's, he's, you know, he's a guy alien. He's larry's. I mean it's a very physical performance. A lot of that character is in the makeup and the way it keeps deteriorating just seem to seen gross. By the end. It is really disgusting. But the physically thing Ling. The physicality of him. For instance, throwing temper tantrum in the truck when he is trying to get the container that he stole from the alien open. He just so convincingly comes across as something crammed into a human suit. He has to deal with lake actual human joints. And you know, body parts that face in certain directions only move in certain ways. But watching him fail around. It's really easy to be convinced that, like, he doesn't have any of those limitations, watching him alert around dragging Linda Fiorentino. It's just look how did you physically do that without harming yourself? And of course, just the, the slurring performance of the vocals, and the, the sheer joy of all the rage he brings it to insulting humanity. It's, it's just great. I'm trying to think of another funny to non-fuel performance who really question. I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's some other ones out there, but it's, it's ideas, it's probably safe to say it's comedy. Highlight. Yeah. He's not even really going for that really. I think I think the physical aspect of this reform is what's so impressive. Have you see some interesting things verbally, too, but you know, he really has thought through? Okay. This is a alien in very discomforting human suit, you know, and if you've ever worn clothes that really don't fit. Well at all. That's what this is for him. And so he has to struggle his way through it the level of commitment to the bit is amazing from actor standpoint, and also from just a shared, you know, technical standpoint I mean, this is this is one of those things where the film really fluidly mixes, you know, CGI affects with actual physical, tactical effects, and that all credit Rick Baker for that. I feel that film is kind of wear affects is now where there is kind of a hybrid of physical, especially like in things like the Star Wars. The new Star Wars films is a nice, hybrid of practical effects, and digital effects. And I think for a while not too long to this. The just went all digital and, and, and things got a little lost along along the way. And this is a nice combination of the two before we get away from Jennifer ios performance Keith. I'm guessing you know this because you read Rachel's article as as well but do you guys know what to actors? Not real was drawing on for for his voice. John huston. George C Scott. He says he says I was really interested in Houston's pronunciation of things, it was pedestrian allegance way. He sounds out every letter, but I didn't want to be that slow. So I combined George C Scott's rasping in cadence with John Houston's Annunciation. So there is the formula for at gerbers voice Igman black maker. What makes it alien? It's john. Huston, plus Dorsey Scott? If you smash together hard enough, you're gonna get something that isn't very humid anymore. So all right. Breaking my heart chill your face. No cure all your wings. Wings off the floor. The forty gonna get with censorship. If that's what you call space trash, we mocked up in the office. Doll never going to happen. And said so Kay how is it okay? Say is going to be okay. Nick sock. So this opens accidentally with, with the scene of immigrants coming over and people trying to stop them. I don't think this movie is super political, but I don't think you can remove politics from it either. And if recall around the tons came was another time when, when we were in the throes of a crisis over the border that was partially an actual issue partially public stereo. So do you think this film trying to say something about the politics of the moment, or of that moment or not? I mean, it's got to it's like the dismissive nece that Tommy Lee Jones brings into speaking, the INS people about protecting the country from aliens, like it's just he so dismissive about the way that he uses that both that word and the idea of the INS having any any place in government, like any place in law enforcement at all he's obviously, dealing with bigger things, apparently the world is threatened with destruction on a really regular basis, but, you know, he is in theory. A part of a law-abiding organization. It's just so clear that has nothing but contempt for those people and is like perfectly willing to send a bunch of immigrants like back on their journey into making home in America at the expense of a bunch of pretty identical. Look in lake tightly shaved white guys who all seem to be about the same age. I don't think there's any accident in the casting of that group in a movie. If you notice the Mid's are pretty racially diverse comparatively. And once you actually get into the office, there's even like gender diversity, and not to mention species diversity, but the INS guys like they all look like they came from the same white supremacist meeting. I don't think that's a coincidence. Agree. I, I think the film is, you know, as a allegories pretty strong 'cause I mean, that seems right. You're talking about seeing that opens the movie, right? I mean, that, that's how the movie begins with, with this with the see the very directly a Vokes flow of immigrants into this country. And then I think you also have this idealize ation of how immigration could function of this is super competent group of people who are allowing aliens to exist among us in peace. You know, and that being fine, it'd being completely okay there's aliens all among us all the time. We're not. We don't recognize it, and they're part of our society, and everything is okay. And you just have to take care of a few mischief makers. And you know, I mean good as it'd be nice if we had an actual immigration system that function that, well, there is, there's a definite kind of live and let live attitude towards the wave that they enforce. You know when they catch somebody on the highway. They don't think you should be. Like, once they understand why he's doing it. They're like, okay, whatever like they have no interest in following the letter of the law at the expense of human, or humanoid, or semi Demi humanoid lives. There's just live and let live attitude. And of course, the baseline attitude of the movie is just, you know, these people needed some place to go, and this was the planet that they ended up on. And that's fine. You know, for for every Mikey kits evaporated into two blue paint or you know, something like the bug there's obviously, like, literally thousands of people just like quietly living their lives in a productive way. That's good for the country, you keep saying that this, that's the first fifteen of the film, though. And I think you're, you're dismissing the lengthy sequence of the Dragonfly flying for getting Lewis show, which is both a book, Danny elfin scores. It's the most Tim Burton thing in this. Yeah. The whole thing feels like timber. Nope. Inning which is just crazy to me, because it's like it's not really the style of the rest of the movie at all. And I, I really kinda wonder what he was going for with it. It does book and the end of the movie very nicely. But it feels so inspired both by Tim Burton's lake. Love of sort of weird. Stop motion stuff and obviously Slough of, of Danielle music. I mean, I took it to just be like it's a bug and bugs are going to be the bad guy of. But it didn't like it's not a strong connection made it all. But I think it's I actually like it as an entry into the film as different as it is from what comes next. I think it's I like when movies start with a sort of place, setting vibe setting a moment instead of just going directly into the action. It also sets up a weird kind of tension because that bug dodges certain death, so many. That intro. Like every time you think, okay? This is where it ends, it doesn't right up until that final moment. Yes. Just setting up sort of the resiliency of bugs, as a soon to be antagonised in the story. And, you know, the inevitability of them eventually getting squished, we talked about Linda Fiorentino at all. I think a lot of fun in this movie, and was at that point was kind of on Iran kind of hot streak as well, which between, you know, last adoption, and this what else would you be around the same time? I don't know. I mean, what's really Iraq remarkable is like her career. Absolutely hit a wall. It was like, you know, she had a tough reputation around this movie time working with, with all of the other the director and the two stars. And she was in dogma, and then, and then just that was practically it. She just sort of the map, and she was always one of the most interesting to me, you know, she's great here. She's got she has this dopey Lakers. She's right in. One of my favorite films, a little time I may have to pull that one out again for next pitcher show because I love that film to distraction. And she makes it yeah, there's so many rumors going around about her like being trouble in difficult to work with and you don't know what that's code for some time. That's, that's the problem is, like more and more you come to find out that, that might mean she adamantly refused to sleep with a certain men in Hollywood or that she kept pushing back to be treated like her male co stars are, like, who knows what else or it could mean that she is a toxic person that people didn't wanna work with e just you don't know. And, you know, probably never will it's too bad. I think she's other she she's good. And I mean, there's just again that voice that kind of like dry wit there was never not an actress Laker at the time. And there really isn't now either. She just so. So you like I really miss her it, it's just weird to revisit this movie. And then. Thank God, what happened interfere Tino, and the new literally look at the filmography. This in this was just like the beginning of the end. Yeah. This movie does not give her a ton to do. I mean, she does end up as a pretty typical damsel in distress with the guys chasing after her and the climax of the film literally hangs her into an entry as a witness to what's on. But she a pretty short skirt in very short scared. There's, there's a lot of her legs in this movie, but the kind of early going where you see, like this really weird side of hers as the Queen of death is Will Smith puts it, I this is something like various soulful in very appealing and just, deeply strange about her that I really enjoy in kind of her intro on her setup in the film. And of course, she's presented as, like a very competent doctor just keeps running up against technology and situations that she knows nothing about getting her memory wipes. Maybe we'll probably talk about the whole Neuromancer thing in the second half of this episode because it plays a part in men in black international. But, you know, the flashy thing is, you know, calls at like she's been subjected at that thing a lot. And maybe that's why she's a little weird guys like this movie. Doesn't you know, it Finks it acknowledging how messed up it is to keep wiping people's memories like that, but never truly engages with it. So I mean it's a pretty harsh movie as far as caring about specific individual people. It's kind of concerned with the survival of the human race. But a lot of the humor is in how really apathetic it is about the lives of individual humans or aliens, like just how or pugs pugs just bluff, and cynical. It is. Do you guys want to talk about the pug, shaking scene care with Scott? Well, I'm not sure if our listeners know that I have a pug, who. A thirteen year old pug, beautiful beautiful dog. We I love very much does she. She is two floors above us right now because she she. Barks tasha. But one day we're going to go to war, we're going to go fist apo- that made that you'd win that she's, she's very shortly. But, but I'm not I'm not anti pugs getting shaken but I, I can recognize the comedy that this disconnected from the. The film actually kinda cuts back shows you from a distance like what just a passer-by with see of just timing Jones shaky stalk. It's very it's very funny. I'll admit that I didn't notice that the film does not have the humane association stamp of approval. It's got a kind of a, a similarly boilerplate thing says something about, you know, aliens and animals in the film were not harmed and were treated with the utmost respect and dignity or something like that. But it's, it's the kind of thing you stick on your film, when humane society, just would not sign off on what you what you had to do. Can tell you that dog is not alive right now. I chew. Tommy Lee Jones or. I don't want to say anything about whether animals harmed, but I'm just saying that dog is not with us right now. So you come to your own conclusions. I don't really talk about Scott, I've seen men in black international that, that pug, was definitely in that movie same dog. You'll have to remind me what was in that movie. On that note. I didn't even wind things down. And we've back after the break to address your feedback. Now it's time for feedback when our listeners in with their responses to recent episodes anything else in the world of film, our last episodes on nineteen fifty four film Godzilla, and the recent Godzilla Canada monsters inspired some reflection of what it means to destroy a city. Onscreen genevieve. Can you share one of those share David Indianapolis rights? You guys microscope about whether there was or wasn't a better way for us to handle the demolishing of large cities in our popular media, and I think that the best answers connected to the twenty fourteen Godzilla film, but you seem to have like more than I did. I was let down by what I felt was the pictures failure to pay on a very specific promise from the trailer that in this movie, bad things were really going to matter stakes would be felt in loss, even shell shock. I submit to you that the best piece of film succeeding, this allusive task is the official trailer for Godzilla twenty fourteen. Not specifically the visually stunning halo jump. But what follows the set of instantly relatable reaction shots, almost mainly well up the first time I saw it. I imagine the possibility of a movie, letting me not responsibly. Think about. But responsibly feel what so many had thirteen years prior on nine eleven and a lost sense of the importance of things might be rekindled. Unfortunately, the film did not honor that promise while took it seriously almost nothing. No one in no event, made any impact at all. But that trailer is kind of masterwork possibly the best use of reaction shots in preview since the close encounters campaign in nineteen seventy seven just take a moment to shout out the term micro squabbled, which it to, which, I feel does describe our dynamic. We should we should look like the micro squabbles like when you when you like fiercely disagree on the mostly agree on. Just just strongly disagree on a very tiny point, a very pro micro spa will smaller than many squabble. The main point Davis trying to make here though is, is, is the wink question is, is our place in blockbusters to kinda sort through the feelings out nine eleven the way the regional, God's was a chance to sort through some feelings amount the Tomich bomb. And I would point to another Spielberg film, which is his remake of war of the worlds, which I think, is fantastic distillation of nine eleven and its aftermath in a in a blockbuster form. I you know, I no one loves the ending. I don't love the end either. But I think after that, it's, it's pretty incredible movie. Just kind of the disorientate. The Aw, some of the imagery of, of of, you know, missing posters that was turning there. I think it really does much what Joan Godzilla was doing just really admire. How that film deals with how people behave in a crisis? I the scene that has always stuck with me is like when the earth's for starts cracking when the aliens are coming from below and Tom Cruise is just sort of charging panicky way. Around from from emerging crack in the ground to merging crack of the ground with a crowd of people like the Ono their endanger, but they can't help it. Rush to the site of the danger to see how dangerous it is. It's like just sort of human nature. And then time and time again, the earth moves again, and they all freak out and panic and run. And then they stopped to look at the next crack, and it's, it's really well done action, and it's really well done acting. But it also just feels so real in terms of, you know, if I was there, I would probably also not be able to take in what I was seeing and behave like a panicky at it. It's like a micro explanation of why people do stupid things during disasters. That's a good point. Mean to get back to it takes, you know, a tremendous amount of courage and will to vote, something real like that. In the two thousand fourteen Godzilla just didn't quite quite habit. I mean when I admire about that movie is the clarity of action. It's, it's, it's, you know, Spielberg and willingness to kind of allow some, some time to pass and build up to a climax. It's gonna be really satisfying. There's something this, the classical construction of it was something that, you know, that I it mired so delivered for me as a blockbuster, but I think decrease is it for not doing with the fifty four version did in in in tie godzillas actions to something more meaningful is fair criticism. I think I think it's worth also were saying that both guts, films, have incredible trailers trailers, even twenty fourteen version better than that. Twenty nineteen. Sequel. They both have trailers that are better than the film's their advertising. I think fundamentally if you're looking to blockbusters for any kind of meaningful consensus, you're, you're going to be missing out because blockbusters fundamentally want to bring in the largest widest audience possible, and that means they're always going to be aiming for some kind of big wish film at ending some kind of big exciting satisfying. Everybody gets what they want kind of ending, and I think it's important to remember that the fifty four Godzilla wasn't setting out to be like some kind of giant blockbuster, and it was coming from a culture that's may be a little less obsessed with self congratulation than America. I mean, American blockbusters are ultimately movies about dealing with big issues. And then overcoming them at a big self congratulatory way. And I think that's why avengers Infinity were hit people so hard was because they had to walk out of the theater without being petted untold like your. Awesome in this great. And everything's gonna be fine. About. More of that, actually. Well, it was it was very, very striking. I would love to see more blockbusters like that. It's really risky. You know to, to put your money down to put your two hundred fifty million dollars or whatever down on something that leaves people feeling sad unsatisfied had what nineteen hit films. Before we get to Email. So but Godzilla was the most expensive movie in Japan at the time. But I think there were different expectations than as well. For instance, not expecting it to make a billion dollars worldwide. Yeah, exactly. Well, as catch up to our under the silver lake episode, we getting feedback about our pairing with Chinatown Scott. Can you read one of those assure Anthony writes, every time I watched Chinatown? I can't shake the feeling that no across was supposed to be played by an elderly Humphrey Bogart, obviously, that's nonsense, because bogert had been dead. For almost two decades, the film was made but it's just something about the character, and the way Houston place him that feels like it should be Bogart doing an even more out there version of what it was late career weirdo performances. Are there any movie characters that you would've liked C B played by an actor who died before the movie was made? This is maybe not what you have in my with the question. I always find myself thinking about the actors that. Didn't get to didn't live long enough to make for as many great performances as, as they could have. And, you know, I think what would refuseniks at and things like that. I, I here's, here's a movie, I think is pretty much perfect. The way it is Winona recast, it lovely performance. But thought exercise I reformed starring Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah. Think about that. The other thing that came to mind with this letter is there are certain types of roles I feel like modern that we don't really have actors that are acquitted to play them anymore. I was thinking about this watching a not very good kind of entertaining. Bad movie called serenity recently as all seen that you want us research. It's insane. Yeah. See it. Don't don't let me don't know the spoiler that other something sane. Twist twist, which I stayed away from it isn't in, in Saint in this film, and Hathaway an actress I think, is great. And I look forward to performance, but she plays like Veronica lake style fem fatale and it's just freely outside of her range, and I'm trying to think I trying to think who could play that role convincingly, and I think we have a shortage of type of, of Atrazine could fit that part. So, you know, reanimate Veronica lake. I don't think it's an option at this stage but Linda for Tina could've played it. But yeah. Anyway. How about how about you Genevieve anyone? I mean I'm really bad at these sorts of exercises in like been thinking about it for the past couple of hours and just kind of failing to come up with anything. I feel like him really strong. Get behind accept something that was inspired by this letter in specifically are under the silver lake pairing. I know that he'd been Scott, you were really, really liked under the silver lake in touch, or maybe a little more on the fence about it. But I did like it. But one of the things that had me on the fence with that was Andrew Garfield performance, which I think is very good in purposefully dish performance. Like you're not supposed to like that character. But I kept thinking, what that character would have been like the hip been played by Anton, Yeltsin, who is an actor, who I always thought had kind of similar vibe to into Garfield. But just is able to inject a little more soulful nece, even into kind of detestable characters. I'm thinking about his performance thoroughbreds, which we discussed in that was released posthumously, after after he passed. As well. But so that that's kind of like the best example, I could come up with just this sort of a, you know, a similar actor who might bring something a little different to the role, that would change the, the vibe of the movie, a little in a way, I possibly might have preferred. But I don't wanna like impune, Andrew Garfield performance in that. Like I don't think it's a bad performance. It's just it's performance that kept me at a distance from that character in a way that I might not have been if it had been in the hands of after, like, you'll just one thing I would say, I would have wanted to see Wilson untimely jobs be you. They're still alive. You know the problem of being alive. Like the examples that you've given like life, Philip Seymour, Hoffman or river Phoenix. Because one of the problems is that acting styles change dramatically. And so you can't really hard to imagine an actor John Garfield who I really love being in a movie. Now, doesn't those styles those that style performance to doesn't doesn't work vice versa. Doesn't work the other way either. So it's, it's kind of this is a tough hypothetical for me. It's a tough one for me too, because I pretty much don't engage in fantasy casting. It's just not something that I enjoy it's not really the way my brain works that said, I have always wondered what Terry gilliam's man who killed donkey. Hodie would've looked like with John. Roach Vert in the title role as opposed to Jonathan Pryce who I think, is a really excellent job. But definitely brings a different kind of energy to it. And of course, you know, the two of them have worked together Gilliam into a price worked together extensively before. But I do wonder what significantly older man who had just very different energy would've would've brought to that, that said, I was kind of talking to my husband about this because I was thinking, you know, is there is there something, I'm missing that. I complained about like long ago and just forgotten. He's kind of the, the institutional memory of the household and he had a really interesting take, which was that very rarely when a movie doesn't work. Well, is it does it come down to the casting, like very rarely could have been fixed by the right person in that role? So you look at something like suicide squad and thank. Well, you know, maybe if he fled your had been around to reprise his role as the joker that would have brought a different energy. No that wouldn't affixed that foams problems at all. So I think maybe there are cases that are, are sort of, you know, that's I've always wanted to see that, but don't think there may maybe are many cases where it would have fixed the movie per se except for watchmen. When silk spectre ship been played by anybody. But Mellon Ackerman. She's good. Elsewhere though. I mean I mean, I, I agree with you. She's not good in that film. But I, I was like written her off, but I've seen her clay entertaining another in other projects. It's kind of like watching 'em night, Shamlan movie like the happening, and it's like I've seen all of these actors like do, do decent acting jobs elsewhere. They must have been coached behave. Specifically like this. Why would you do that? What about Bette Davis, but Davis actually translated pretty well not like put she should joker like the divorce product right? That all the park that sounds delightful. Similarly, Bob said he really wanted to see Bella goes e play, the, the ancient vampire in what we do in the shadows, the one that NAS for one that lives down in the basement. He thinks that look would have had like just a complete and utter hoot playing that role vote out. Well, this is a really fun exercise. I loved actually, here's from some of our listeners about, you know what their own sort of ideal casting for for actors who are no longer with us because maybe someday. We'll have that power to raise. Technically we. Yeah. We've got the digital power to do it once and, and, and Lawrence Livia Ronald that was great. It was seamless. Peter Cushing and Star Wars. Rogue one all all all the best moments in the. All right. Well, well anyway, right to us. Anyway, we always appreciate when our listeners shitter thoughts recommendations. If you feel so inclined we compete, your, your response on a future episode or post on Facebook for discussion to reach us. 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2 Millennials Fight a Smoke Detector

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2 Millennials Fight a Smoke Detector

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So, finally got her food after two hours, and of course, get home analyzer. Bego. Yeah. I was like how? Right so honestly. fucking waiting for Lice Kalani maze of food. But I digress it was something to get the house. It was just you know something to do while the fucking lights are play our foes in work all we get light the apartment with all our candles. Yeah and then flashlight yet com right? And then after lights came on, I was like cool Weizer. There is one problem to still now. fucking Internet. Internet. We didn't have Internet. In overpaid next warrant. Yes. I was like this. Give it a NI- maybe they'll be back tomorrow you know you know. It was a storm. So you gotTA. Let him do. You get the lights long. So we go to bed. It's like eleven o'clock this point because we. Were sitting in line for so long. McDonald's then we got McDonald's in like these teenage these four like sixteen year old was our sore running the store. There's only three of them. Yeah. But there's like a line out the street in like six year olds taken Anyway. I gotta go to work. Like. Everybody's tired of this. So we're we went to bed else was that. In the wake of the next day and I woke up early and I was like thoughts Internet's. Like, I like to hear something been I'm getting ready to. You know just my brain going to like. Rang, yes. Is it gets rain started backup. You know because I leaving for seven hours. Wade out. So I guess I just. Put on DVD's as luckily. I still have my just ridiculous collection DVD's of stuff and I've watched when I was little but I still have that this pot one of those movies than I think it was the other woman. came. Down here to watch nick state was. Like. Sorry added. A holiday I love that movie because. y'All. So you know in retrospect scally good thing that the power went out because we kind of you know. Did things we didn't normally do a watch are DVD's yeah and sitting our house. Played Games on the Nintendo? Sixty four up. 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We plan or? Has Lots Oh. So play wheel forces until two o'clock in the morning in like we're fading y'All. Fuck vacated. So. I'll say less watching movie hundred relate because again, the Internet is fucking out so we can't just on youtube or Netflix and just watching mindless TV too. So abroad down if y'all know y'all know man of the House with Tommy Lee Jones. Now, such a giving I did not know about this. So basically, Tommy Lee Jones is a Texas ranger okay, and he is trying to. Catch he's trying to catch. A fugitive who was a witness to a crime? And so this movie consists of Tommy. Lee Jones in five cheerleaders who witnessed a murder. Five, cheerleaders win this summer. He has a big arrow. Make sure they know that. That's the basis. San Of the Moog is granted allies. How many Jones like I think he said yes okay. Linemen a black comando. Yeah. But she was Washington Illinois. She was like Tommy Lee Jones looks like the obvious turn. That's. What with the Mike? Year. Boy I probably. 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This society to fucking termites. While fucking reporting podcast radio I'm how much housing or wheel of fortune. Anton. Time. It'll be big talented benign that county I'm GonNa turn around. So. My parents always wanted to eat something for birthdays. Any holiday they WANNA each. So that's what we're doing for mother's Day but most as cool. Offer Won't be I. Love. My mom she's cool. She cooks really good. My Grandma's really funny. Oh God. I cannot help that I'm recording the second by. Karai. On my gun. Like y'all WanNa talk about like really back this parents. That's my. Dream they don't do me. They've never done drugs so they say they say. Drug. Believe him. Since she went into Weyrich to leave. My. Brother represented follow. Exactly. Yeah. Right. Okay. which ended up yeah like I know y'all were doing some she when you were younger 'cause I knew subject without yogurt. So there's no way one time. Did you pregnant like? HOUSTON. You know your parents this stuff because like in a innocent you are from them. You you're pretty much take the same path regardless of how you WANNA fight it like you're GONNA do. It. No. Tart. Anna grew up eighties lakes. Cow All. Eighties and nineties to fight appeared weighed on for the hand me they were like twenty seven. To. Thirty. Twenty six. Mass Saudis. Eight really. What had your ass partied over ninety one. Ninety. One. another thing that we're gonNA talk about the university coming up soon on. Jesus's we have felt welders. Because he made me for the thing that I've run out. Yeah you do. Next weekend will be the eleven year an over Serie of me graduating high school. Is made a ten years for me Kendall Eleven for Maya Man. Jesus. I can't believe I've been out of school on. It's Kinda surreal yeah. I remember when I graduated I guess still remember. The days leading to. Practice? Practice. Coming grabbing this. Is. Agile. Now. This. Like Blake piece of paper. Yeah. So. Kids case, Y'all know when you go get your diploma everyone is not your. Mom is just rolled up piece of paper. Thank. God anything. Honestly, they send it to you know I don't mind they're. Oh. Yeah Franklin. We had a class fourteen, hundred kids graduate. Way Fourteen hundred people gradually. Yeah. Ours, like four hundred. Now it's. Fourteen hundred our school, we were the first graduating class. In the new school Amulya one hundred class anyway. Yeah we'll see I know that's pretty cool. Yeah. You Franklin opened in nineteen in I, graduated twenty. How Did. You have any like. Did, you earn meal superlatives or anything I was a B. Student. I had I graduated with a three point seven minus three point eight got a word Clemmie ours because I had a four author years. I Mo slept class so I wasn't really involved like that Y'all I hated school me so much anxiety. meaning. Gave me live I did not term. It will. Actually away prime. Wow there's a shocker. Grazie rights. India. I'm good boyfriend. Hanley moments decent on CNN. Like this guy, I dated right Outta High School, the one I like when was the first time doing? Things for the first time I'm. Not, GONNA be. Okay But. Eighteen years, plays, guitar fell. Wash. On my phone that's truly young. Yeah Nice. But anyway. Graduation, so of course. You graduation parties after you graduate I had a graduation party. Yeah aggregation. But why dad. We all people. I had cousins from Ohio. Come down my grandma. Came down. Always people come. See me graduate. I'm slate people. Realize. How many people like kept up with how old I was in relative getting? Congratulations graduation cards like getting like thirteen hundred. To give get to a seventeen of work to the Colo in store. I was like I was gone out. Most Mace. Yeah, that's best. Buy The money. Got A good chunk of change church. Give you like fifty in looking back now shoulder saved it but like it's me though I Think that unlike short on like like finally out dollars gas right overhead instead that gag eating your go-to player vying t-shirt that you've never rightly war. Man. You think about that. She had sometimes man you be spending that money. You're baking cow. There's only five dollars last. Week last to survival night. Yeah, Jimmy Johns you've. Bought in you were ready for years. Like shit hand been bad influence. Maybe I'd like save money on our. Whatever I can't say that she was a bad influence because is probably a bad. Way More. than. Light. One of my relationships was with somebody who was like married. And I met Beca because of that. Up Today's comfort situations But. We rented a Parker billion from graduation party. Made all of food he made like, of course, you chicken ribs Manetti Cook kilos getting may pull poor chicken wings cost him I mean. So much he's. We spent three days making also made the foods or the graduating class too. We did. We had this like lockdown. In her high school is like our last night, it was like an overnight thing. So we get a lock in your so they had games for food. Videos on all kinds of fucking activities be cool. Like you know I was talking eighteen in sobers wasn't really that right? But you know cool I like state upto six in the morning like thought my life is really about the chain boy did it change? More what better way to show you how your life changed dramatically when the knock it any sleep the night for Ya right in probably. because. I've probably last time you're actually going to. He's. Like I went to college for two years so. I really thought I was angry college graduate to. But Yeah so Long story long enough. Soon. Ran The entire day. My Graduation Party nobody came Dan is so hard like aca all that food. In Minnesota. Came Damn like Mike my immediate stopped in but like Mullah, how could you be? Pouring. And that Sun and of course, for women to leave to clear up shit. Look Song Kanai man that just solidified which was given exactly. Yet she A little bit better. Just enough for me to not want to kill myself you know. US I'm GonNa work kind of joking about that today like really going to get. To do this now, I don't know. Man, twenty twenty. Day. In who y'all? Escape. There like we saw rapid yeah is bad al there for pretty much anybody lay. If you're trying to soak is bad regains ban fucking black. If. You're all three week or two of those things it is twenty twenty and stuff like this only. Minded. Ridiculous The other night? went to a friend's house in COOKEVILLE. Can and like my parents are from New York. So they Tommy from a very young age not to do Pacheco, Araya, Lake in a place you don't know. So where could will I have never been here before I don't know how the people are. I don't know who's around the you know that. Don't know erm going. So. We needed what we need. We need some mountain. Yeah. So the gas stations right down the street. That's totally far. But this is Cookeville on the place I don't know too well and I don't know the people and it's like you don't really know what can happen late give head Dan keeps moving so. I kind of went through that lake. It scares me. You never know like you never really know who in war like what is going to go down because people just man people. Especially people who feel entitled. Like it's dangerous. And they're dangerous and it's really sad that. Think that they're entitled because of the color of skin in making. Chase you down while you're just minding your own fucking business. This. was minding his own fucking business. Like. was. If you don't knows name because almost as me are was armone, Aubrey or someplace your. His murderers. Two months later. I fail, yes good but it's sad that it took. It took public. FOR THEM TO BE ARRESTED PROC- Al Gore because has a murdered an innocent man. And they didn't get caught until the video that they take leat. Take. Day Tuesday. Yeah. Don't wash it. Do Not Watch it. It's it's really fucked heartbreaking rate it really is into it's a lot. But I wanNA talk about that. The racial issue thing is just like something. That I will not resign. It's it's so sad because you know spending mother's Day like my parents are worked so hard whole entire life so that I didn't have to go through the things that they went through. You know like my parents were up in the sixties, seventies, eighties and my grandma G- rubbing the twenty, the forties. Sorry mcgrew up in the forties. So like they've been through some changes like, of course, they don't want to grow up in living with that kind of hatred. And you know the things that I do like they're always scared I'm just GonNa get myself to a situation. No hopefully, you know not only that doesn't happen to me because I don't do crazy stuff but they they don't think I'm Mike. Drug kingpins. Drug low orders on them just slang. Megan a million dollars you know hustling out here. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the opposite I'm like flagging nerd must stay at home in dray with my best friend you know. Play Video Games all night. Only it on to the root of what I. I went to a couple of graduation parties. All we gotTA. Get back to. Me It's Oh. Yeah. Well, maybe. Explains won't. Kid. is so much better. No some if you if you have done it as kids, let me know if you're white or not. Apoel to see this probably other have lives you know. People do party right. Honestly. Any party they have ever been to his Kivus. So. I've never been to parties. Anyway. I'm part of the day. I learned how to swim in. My parents moved to Tennessee I've just never swim. So. I weighed the pooling. Laser Yeah I love ago Lazy River My my problem is I always picture like people in the water with me like. You know that coming towards me. I'M GONNA say it but they're uses. Hate public pools goose people are nasty. Really not. You Know How many times I've been in a pool in like assault to warm immensely. In their MOMS pulling out of the poll because they in it like now. Yeah Anyway. Let us know of you knew this. She's about the dollar story. What are the Bachelorette parties you? All's at somebody's house with the pool. The Guy Sitting the time. He was jared to see so. Three those Jews had parties. So we all parties. One has legal. So all of us got in the pool is a circular, A. Above Ground Pool. everyone might. got on the edges of cool lakes on the inside our cirque. Will me we all walk together in a line like around and fool like the diameter, the pool all walked it in. Eventually we swam eventually made a whirlpool. This. Time. But. These. are eight leg seventeen, eighteen years old. Yeah were. Creating a circle to make a world the future of the world. Yeah. Just by yes our future doctors lawyers. Service, her are in a pool swimming. Then we made the repulsive start moving Swing the other way will I what you do is working good. You just look delays up in you dislike go round fool. and. Then what you do after is you try to walk the other direction who is hard. Ways like it's. We did know. She told me this I laugh for like ten minutes. Who Does? Yeah I'm sure you're not Oh i. saw this thing take. So you guys have to tell us. So this thing on top was it say, why don't you call when you take a water bottle and you tiffany your mouth about touching the top of it and pima headache hockey sales call Arash they had like hockey sip or like not put my mouth on a brain. They're coming up with these like weird ass phrase with yeah and everybody everybody watch. Yeah. No, that's the but everybody will allies is say why is there by saying that it's called waterfall in it's called waterfall waterfall drew to give it back and let the waterfall hug. Me Yeah. Yeah, it involves drinking but it's hitch a melting and water, but I guess waterfall can also be with circle of. Now God several this us. Greis. daters. Game Course. Gingrich. Maybe maybe we should play that one night. She news and play that reminding recorded. There's nothing if I can do y'all all are all we have been doing is just drinking just getting fucked up in our house on the. Like we just get really fucked up at Hampton. We play will work. Pretty Been Pretty Nice but I must go now still. Maybe one of these days we'll have a new story about US going out because. We haven't been able to do that I ever. Like the longest time. Limit Two t-o-n I'm really sad I, miss going fine I miss outside song. Personalize people, but I miss just like people watching. Yeah I'm that creepy, Ding. This I'm trying to see who's with the drama. Only people's. Watching men S my favorite part I. Hope that we get like next to a couple like fighting with each other and like Chili's or something. Yes or we're at the Borrego to. This but guys. Yeah. Let us know the. Is does the t that's kind of stuff I'm listening? Just, hearing people smuggling stories. Man. Your senior. Go Look. I'M A cow. In another now that I'm just GonNa because I'm realistic mountainous. Manzi were planning on going to a holiday concert this year y'all next month. WE'RE GONNA go to Atlanta and we bought pit tickets like we're going all out this year like. Concerts were so abundant. This year everybody wanted to go into this year. What happens the fucking current events y'all am I, right. The way has high. High. Luggage his high, and we say, how back logo So all the fucking concerts were thinking of this year. So all the INS reschedule. Her concert till next year I'm really sad about it. I'm really. Yep Yeah everything is canceled like the plans made for this year have all been played. The amazing. Visit Beach who got a Beach Finn? Might go in July. Yes the see my maybe I mean we can drive. So we're definitely many. Gives me ceases get. Shit. fucking failure really love in this. Area. What we might go I as well. On. Ohio for one day. WE'RE NOT GONNA go to from. I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So Cincinnati probably would be like. A day trip. Save one night trim. C. I N. T. I N. A. His natty. Plays it all. Hi. Lesson. We drive in this good moss or retail. We go on vacation to Ohio where my parents brothers back. We Go Cincinnati speaks to you get into Ohio in Cincinnati. Funny is. Saying no wonder you're so seeing sorry, he's courageous solitary. Man Listen to all the old school. Like so I. Really. Like those that could good cookout music. They listen to you lessons I've I grew up on eighty. So funny to me that I'm listen to songs that I've listened to you growing up and they'll be like you know this I know Shit Bitch. Ladies Listen to me for. Single Day Tom Jones a more young. All My job is. Yes. The saying that always remember about like school of my mom's like Tom during the mortgage. Steve. Hard, I. Was the strawberry draw. Called the straw anything I wake like. Car Now she. Gives me enough attention what am I knew a raw like did you lowery and seen rb will give some lame ass advice. You need to be we. In Bible it says win like this. About a wanted do. Hey. Will Act like. He always wanted to say like I'm coming from the nail perspective and then I'm going to teach you. What? He literally made a book about what men want like is that not some lake servitude tarnish shit you are come to me and say, I, want you to this this this. is to be like, okay give me. What you do for a meeting. Took me. Exactly. Ask. Alert A lot about relationships with strawberry. Larry's. A law in women take a love how Do Trash. But y'all really. Kinda crazy y'all really love. y'All love a good like project. Oh y'all. Love a guy that you think you can shame like you love just thinking that this guy is going to change because with you you know. The problem is is like here's a guy who don't have a change. We'll treat you ran you just totally. Yeah he's barring or he doesn't have any personality or. Yeah tenor race. These are good for me now. Facie Life Pinterest twenty. Yeah like. One has yet. It's one hours kind of thing in maybe I should give that a tender I keep. Audie. About to trusted. Strategy obviously. Is like projects see I like face tattoos just got out of prison right and Baby. Mamas. Like yeah, it'd be. Two Times with three kids but only thirty two. Okay he looks like he could be something if you want to be some batty. To go some way, but he likes. The reader bad of Shit I mean that was. Bad Bad guy and then you is. Does. then. You have a good guy, I guess but he doesn't they're not boring. He's perfectly average has all these tease these looking Gal, open the door for you but you're a friend zone. Once by only one end. There's no in between. Man I've wondering how here's the crazy part I would really love to just get into the mind. Just accurate acidy. Thank. As anything like just. Like when they see a guy will pass what did you think of or like when they see? Or like when they get with somebody late in a relationship, what do they? Really want to think of when they're the person at the risk is fucking ugly in treatment. I just WanNa know what women seem like what women Cadillac I would love to hear what when when you've whole movie about the yeah I'm just kinda curious because no cruelty some cute in our you know. What. You get out. Get Out. Get a danger. Yeah. Go. Man. Can. Make them so. Bill. Him So chemokines a tender in I, I put it together. I take some pictures. Taken a picture looked histogram since. February. Most. Shit. and. That's the last picture to was picture of my my drink. But I didn't take a picture of face like somebody. Let me know how they became comfortable like taking picture themselves as I. Just don't know how you do it like you said, you're like. Do you like do a selfie but like self, he's always awkward because you're like. Your. You're like a smile A. INSTAGRAM attendance figure. Mecca we went to this like sucking German restaurant. It wasn't that. We were just hungry and wanted to drink busy like, oh, here's this restaurants went to this restaurant. And ahead is look cardboard cutout. Mega. in a Nathan. Yeah, I don't know why. Back looks like Bob. Is Funny Bauman? Man Yeah. So that's just quick will update. You know another ramboll tests for us what we're doing, but we're back we're going we're gonNA. We're GONNA or this to. The problem is we get the yeah, and then we forget to do something. It's like I WANNA be fucked up way all the young in my pictures. That goddamn. Bringing Professional we'RE GONNA. We're. Fish. Allow more talented secondhand. Long. It's worth. So again on kindle. I. Yet I should dave thin. This was to me to bar on AIDS combined. So stay me up and this is to millennials walk into a bar. Instagram I. Short One am November Underscore Molay I'll lincoln in the scripting on the why never did that as a way easier? Way Easier. We'll see you later guys.

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incommunicado

Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day

01:42 min | 5 months ago

incommunicado

"The Merriam Webster's word of the day for March twenty first. Today's word is incommunicado spelled N. C. O. M. M. U. N. I C. A. D. O. Incommunicado is an adverb or adjective. That means without means of communication in a situation or state not allowing communication. Here's the word used in a sentence from the news. Tribune of Tacoma Washington by Soren Andersen. Tommy Lee Jones character is his father a world renowned hero astronaut who has been incommunicado for sixteen years after venturing to Neptune on a mission to find signs of intelligent life in the great beyond the word incommunicado ultimately comes from Latin but made its way into English via the Spanish word incommunicado. We borrowed the word with a slightly modified spelling from the past participle of the Spanish verb incommunicado meaning to deprive of communication. The Spanish word in turn derives from the Latin prefix seen spelled I. N. and the Verb Community. Kara meaning to communicate with your word of the day. I'm Peter Sokolow ski visit Marian Webster Dot Com today for definitions wordplay and trending word Cups

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Why the Film Industry Is So Attracted to Bonanza Creek

Aerial America

02:55 min | 9 months ago

Why the Film Industry Is So Attracted to Bonanza Creek

"Helium and the old West don't usually mix. But at Bonanza Creek ranch outside Santa Fe. Anything can happen. The land made its first movie appearance in nineteen fifty five and hasn't stopped since it's now an all inclusive film location with five ponds two sets and one movie town Daniel Craig and Olivia Wilde. Came here to film the Two Thousand Eleven Sifi Western and cowboys and aliens in a spaceship arrives to take over earth starting with the wild west. Luckily the aliens don't stand a chance against Craig and Harrison Ford. A short gallop. Gallup away is another Hollywood. Hangout a ranch owned by director and famed fashion designer. Tom Ford Director Kenneth Branagh came here to fill his two thousand eleven movie. Four starring Natalie. Portman and Chris Hemsworth. The filmmakers added onto an existing movie. Set to build the fictional town of twenty t go where thor has his final showdown showdown with a creature called the destroyer formerly known as the Cook Movie Ranch. This was also a filming location. In for the remake of three ten to Yuma two decades earlier Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones came here to shoot the highly acclaimed miniseries lonesome dove based on the Pulitzer Prize winning book. But it's the undisturbed landscape of the Vice Caldera national preserve serve. That's attracted one of the wild west most enduring heroes the Lone Ranger the twenty thirteen movie filmed here. Features armie hammer of social network fame as the lead and Johnny Depp as Tanto this eighty nine thousand Acre property actually sits inside a collapsed crater in the volcanic hems mountain range it also served as the main homestead in the two thousand three Ron Howard Film The missing starring Cate Blanchett and Tommy Lee jobs for decades. It was a privately owned reg until it became a national preserve in two thousand. When Hollywood? Isn't here the real star by Caldera is nature itself South.

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Ad Astra (Directed by James Gray)  The Anti-Interstellar?

Show Me the Meaning!

50:20 min | 11 months ago

Ad Astra (Directed by James Gray) The Anti-Interstellar?

"What's up everybody. Welcome to show me the meaning. West cracks movie podcast. My name is jared. I'm joined here with with the show me the meaning crew. We Got Ryan what film fans and Jacob Hello Hello today. We're breaking down the twenty nine thousand nine movie. Ad Astra directed by James Gray Gray starring Brad Pitt Tommy Lee Jones and live tyler as always. We're GONNA go around and give first impressions. What was it like. I imagine we've all seen this movie once. But what was it like the first time we watched oh you watched it and if you've seen it a second time what was it like revisiting it for this podcast. Let's start with Ryan. Oof a right well so oh I would say that I overall liked it a little less than I'd anticipated liking it. Unfortunately I thought it was beautifully shot looked amazing. I thought they definitely were swing for the fences. In terms of you know this is a fucking big budget eye popping spectacle movie for adults that that we never see ever space epic with like really you know intense themes not for kids and which I was really excited for and I love James Gray. I fucking fucking love the movie two lovers if anyone was incredible and it's super underrated people seen it's totally it's this movie with a couple people and it it just works and so that guy knows how to make a movie so when he he got the reins to a giant budget. I was super psyched. I didn't really care for the loss city of Jay z his last one but the thing I kept thinking about this. I'm sure we'll talk about it but like like about seven times during the movie I would just going. This is basically Gli apocalypse now like straight up. I kept thinking about the movie apocalypse now reaping the Harley darkness thing yeah heart of darkness you know because there's a lot how to one parallels Kinda once I and I I don't know who knows if they really looked at that as a reference. I have to imagine they had to so I definitely was thinking that was on my mind. I love the world building in this movie. That's probably my favorite part of it. I love it. There's a Yoshino Ya on the moon these guys paid for and there was a subway subway and a DHL like do these guys paid for that or it was so not flattering. Thanks yeah. That was a weird thing when there's product placement like that that's critical of commercialism Do they still pay yeah. It's a good point but regardless I by the end of the movie I kind of definitely I did not pack the The punch. I think I needed it to punch and a couple of reasons for that was not only just automatic reasons but I thought that there is some pretty big story logic jumps in the movie. That kind of view were took me out of it at times that hopefully will get to but yeah that's kind of my main. Impression was was really good ambitious film but I don't think that it was really resonating at the end like I like the voice over narration but I don't know like like it didn't have I enough to say at the end that I really could relate to her. Grasp onto what gel think shaking yes. I saw it with you I had I hadn't I hadn't even seen a trailer. I just went right into go. See it for the first time and I think it was just left wanting more it was it was fine. I thought it was a beautifully shot movie. There were it was it was a good time. I'm glad I saw it but I think a lot of the moments that were supposed to really hit home like like Brad Pitt's big performances in the big moment and the big turn of heart that needed to resonate in order for the whole movie to work and they just didn't resonate for me. I was sort breath catching myself saying okay that this is the scene in the movie where this is going to happen and it pulled me out of it a lot and like it's pretty important like this is you have to really be in line with Brad Pitt on on what his journey is and what this relationship with his dad is and what this means in terms of getting his validation or getting that love back or not and for that I just didn't feel Neil. It's all it wasn't like I didn't get that chill feeling and but I thought it was competently made it was good but it even though I had no expectations I still was is left wanting more given like the budget and the scale and the actors. I think the scale has a lot to do with it. I mean most space movies. Are there in space because it's a setting thing for big ideas. Two thousand one space odyssey interstellar these movies have grandiose ambitions into making you question the meaning of life humanity's place in the cosmos. I think this movie deliberately evades that I've actually only seen who James Gray movies and they're two lovers and the immigrant both of which are very emotional very character driven movies and to me the setting of this movie being in space is arbitrary relatively arbitrary because the whole message of the movie at the end is essentially don't sacrifice yourself for knowledge. Don't go out into the stars ars and sacrifice your family's life and all that stuff just be stay grounded focus on what's in front of you and that's it's kind of. I kind of disagree with that reading a little bit like maybe if if you're analyzing the timely Jones character like well he mister McBride but for for Tom for Brad Pitt Tom Cruise just that there's a cost to doing that but Brad Pitt ultimately comes back to earth and reconnects x with his wife. His wife is the person he left behind. That's true and he ends his dad. That's the whole thing. He ends up distancing himself from his dad. His Dad is the one who said screw my family family. All I care about his ambition. All I care about is science. All I care about his extraterrestrials and I think that at the beginning of the movie he talks about how he looks. It's up to his dad and how he worships his dad because he sacrificed himself for science and I think the ARC is that he doesn't believe that in the end anymore he as well as was the personal story of his own need for validation from his dad like he he has a narrative story line in P- in his mind of what happened right but he didn't get it and it was until well he dropped that story line until he realized that he couldn't get it that it wasn't real that it wasn't worth chasing was just just as like Tommy Lee Jones and the whole universe was searching for extraterrestrial the dress real life in order to feel to get hope yeah he was searching for his dad have that hope and once that was broken realized all he needed was to be back home and everything. I didn't either is here. Yeah everything. That's the needed was on her. I read a T S Eliot quote separately. I was reading a book on Buddhism and this was in there and then I started doing some searching today and I felt like this is quote really kind of encapsulated the theme of the movie this is from Little Gidding it says we shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time yeah well I. I don't take from that though that that's like everything thing they were looking for his right in front of you and that means that space is not worth exploring. I think that it's just like it's you. GotTa learn that extra lesson that you gotta be grateful and and take care of this stuff right in front of you think you can still pursue knowledge. Oh Yea Brad Pitt is going to completely quit being an astronaut like when he goes back his wife no no well no but I think he probably will not do years long journeys like he may have aspired to before yeah abandoned and the work is the number one most most important thing and that he will only he'll only feel valuable and feel hope and feel validated if they find something else before we get too deep into. I just want to say hey. I mostly like the movie I agree that I actually for most of the movie. I'd say a good two thirds of it. I was surprised that I how much I was liking it. I was like wow I'm really enjoying this movie. We Love the scene on the moon. I love all the world building like Ryan said. The sets are graded shot. Beautifully Brad Pitt is amazing and but yeah I coming towards the end I think I was maybe even looking for some of these grander ideas and perhaps the last Hurrah with Tommy Lee Jones and Brad Pitt didn't really resonate as much as I had hoped and the ending was very didn't you tell me he was very similar to gravity yeah just yeah just sorta like okay wow spaces a fucking terrible place lead skip actor her earth fucking rock and I I have a question though about in terms of the story leap so Tommy Lee Jones in his people they they they set off and they disappeared sixteen years into their to their voyage right well the they hadn't received communication. I thought it was fourteen years. They hadn't receive receive communication from the Lima Project. You know let me just answer that by going. In to the recap our baby here we go so after a series of electromagnetic pulses caused massive passive destruction and chaos on earth. US Space Command Major Roy McBride is brought in by top military officials who tell him that the source of the pulses is a core of antimatter he matter onboard the Lima project based on Neptune the Lima project was a mission to search for extraterrestrial life led by Roy's father h Clifford McBride of which Chatan communicated with Earth for fourteen years and thus all involved were presumed dead. The military tells Roy that they believed that his father is still alive so his mission is to travel to Mars to communicate with his father and stop the pulses after narrowly escaping murderous pirates on the moon and murderous monkeys after you're answering a distress call. Roy Arrives on Mars where he sends a heartfelt audio message to his dad who responds but the military withholds the information from Roy and tells hells into head back to Earth when Roy learns that his father murdered the rest of his crew in order to continue his work and that other astronauts are heading to Neptune to nuke the Lima project base ace he climbs aboard the ship uninvited the others on the crew tried to apprehend them but they all die so Roy spends three months traveling to Neptune Solo whereas nothing to do but think about his wife who abandoned on Earth Roy arrives at the Lima Project plans the nuke and convinces his dad to come back to Earth but as they're leaving Roy's dad ops to die floating aimlessly in Space Roy makes it back to Earth and reconnect with his wife and of movie. Don't you gotTa do okay before you do that want to shout out to our sponsors over at simple habit so simple habit is a mindfulness APP. It does guided meditations. 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That's simple habit dot com slash. Show me get thirty percent off premium subscription for the first fifty listeners and make sure to use that link. We've got one in the show notes so that you know that they know from your podcast or go to simple habit dot com slash show me for thirty percent off for the first fifty listeners and now back to the show and make it a habit ago into simple apple habit. Oh thank there you go. Oh actually sorry Ryan before you that there's three things I want to bring up. Real good enough got to bring up top one. I've already mentioned this before but wisecracker wisecracking doing articles now on medium. We got a really awesome partnership with medium. We've been working really hard on check out our articles and medium dot com slash wise crack also all all of us on this podcast right now. We're doing our South Park. PODCASTS South Park is on the air right now. It's called respect authority so you know thank you so check that out. It's on it's on I tunes. It's on stitcher. It's called respect authority so check that out while the show is going on lastly. I I will be attending the Austin Film Festival this year. I got invited as a panelist so if you guys want to meet me there they're offering wise crack fans twenty five dollars off badges. It's October Tober twenty four through the thirty first and Austin Texas use the Promo Code wisecracker. twenty-five the information is in the show notes. If you guys want to hang out with me meet some writers at the Austin Film and Festival Anyway Ryan What did you what were those two things you wanted to bring up all right one of them a more confused than the other so the Tommy Lee Jones stop getting communications about sixteen years in the thing but they knew that they were around Neptune. It doesn't take sixteen years to get to Neptune because Brad Pitt got there in a couple months once in the movie so were they just flying around the galaxy and then they just happen to lose track of them around Neptune. Is that kind of the the story oh he I think he he sabotage the mission. Tommy Lee Jones character. I think he's sort of intentionally. Y- There's this whole scene where he ended up killing everybody turned off communications and then decided to sort to live out the project on his own. I think the whole thing was that I think they were supposed to stay on Neptune for a certain amount of time when everyone else wanted to leave leave Tommy Lee Jones was like We're staying got my next question is is that then he said that Tommy Lee Jones said that there was a fight that broke out now when the when in this giant Proton phaser thing that's hitting earth happened is that just because there is a fight that broke out in a malfunction or did somebody deliberately hit the thing to to hit earth. No it was because there was a mutiny and there was a scuffle during the scuffle that got damaged and it was accidental. Got It okay I read. I use the dental. No one's trying to fuck up earth correct okay that that also anyway they might not confuse other people. Sorry no no no no no. I oh I thought Timely Jones was actually intentionally talking with people. He was a troll and sort of pushing. The one thing I don't know is aware of what he was but he also probably just couldn't fix it. Like what are you going to do. He didn't have a nuke the only way that they were able to fix it was because of the nuke but back to back to my argument that I think this movie kind of deliberately evades other-worldly extraterrestrial things. There's the monkey section you think at least when I was watching it you think it's going to reveal some kind of alien life but it doesn't actually in fact when I saw it. I wasn't expecting monkeys so for a split second. When the monkeys face was revealed I actually for like a split second. I was like Oh shit. What is that now but he was actually just a monkey and then I and then like over the next couple of seconds I was like Oh okay uh-huh nope no nothing extraterrestrial going on here because we've all seen from alien to rick and Morty when there's when there's a distress call on a on a spacecraft in the middle of space it's probably because they got fucked up by alien yeah right especially when there's no one responding and it's floating there and no one seems to be around. You're like we're just waiting for something scary and it was Jerry but he was a big a big relationship to rage in in the film as a theme right now. He's like I saw that that rage and my dad's is I've seen that rage in me that rage he responds to it resonates with that rage. He says about the monkey monkey that region that face he's like. Oh my God. That's the region me human nature man. That's true the monkey mind speaking of of Meditation I'm sorry go ahead. I was GONNA say so. There's something interesting about the film in that so at the beginning of the we we never really know specifically civically why they're searching for extraterrestrial life at the beginning that they're looking for hope the quote anywhere online. Did you find that quote. I didn't look for it but it's something along. The lines of you've stuff is dire and we're looking for hope in extraterrestrial life and not not only do they not find extraterrestrial life but I it's interesting how that Mirrors Roy's whole journey whereas you you know if we're looking for hope in the unknown you should maybe just kind of look for it for the stuff yeah big exploration. I think that's to me that was is the big takeaway of the movie. Which I felt was a little obvious like it was Kinda like yeah. How cool is it that there's a movie that formerly is all about the author of the Cosmos Osmose about our site meant about the unknown just in terms of the visuals but the actual message. Is that yeah that stuff is still oh beautiful but really the stuff. That's going to find meaning. You should probably invest in stuff in front of you rather than the home yeah. I hadn't really thought about it until you put it like that but yeah like I like that. This is a space movie about finding aliens and then they don't find aliens. You're right another. Hollywood movie would have at the end that would've would've kind of been like the end of contact where what is the explanation for all this. Oh yeah this weird unexplainable alien light force thing you know that kind of I'm glad that we didn't run into an unexplainable alien life force. I'm glad that basically how we are now in two thousand nineteen th there's just as much you know we think there might be something out there but we don't know that's how they are at the end of the movie and that's cool yeah even the antimatter thing. I I mean when you hear there's antimatter. That's quite a feat for not only the antimatter somewhere in the far reaches of space where they're looking extraterrestrial life and somehow that antimatter is doing doing something crazy. That's messing with Earth. You you put antimatter and extraterrestrials together and you think that there's something. Sifi going on right and there's not it's actually it. Just people wanted to go home and one dude said no and they screwed some stuff up There's even a part in the trailer. Were Brad Pitt says I think this is in the movie too but I since I actually saw the movie last week. I watched the trailer before this and he says he spent his life looking up to his dad. His Dad give up his life to pursue knowledge and he says it's up there that are story is going to be told but I think that's he realizes that that's not the story wants to tell the story wants to tell is with his wife right. Is There Ernie parallel to divinity you think in all of this this sort of surge in this hope and this thing that we look to the stars in the sky and the stars. Yes so actually I'm going to bring up. We got an email from a fan cameron might as well just bring this up now. He says I just thought that Ad Astra and felt compelled to reach out for the first time I'm obviously a lot of structural up the backwater heart of darkness undertones. May sci-fi twist like what Ryan was talking about but he said I love to hear more about your interpretation on the fluid would end up on the fluid evaluation from cosmic nihilism too absurd as them. I find myself slipping between the two in my life and saw the film's a brilliant mirror into my psyche. What did you experience so yeah. I mean I I actually don't see it at it's difficult cult because on the one hand if you were to make an argument about divinity you could say that on the one hand yes. There is no extraterrestrial life. There is no Oh big other in the sky that can give our lives meaning but I think that by reasserting the meaning of the the familial bill on earth. I do think that it can't really be quite absurd. It would be a the absurd is probably more Tommy. Lee Jones is character who just wants to float out in in space has no fino value back on earth was willing to give it all to give this guy and I I because I actually did think at the beginning of the movie had some absurdist form to it at the just the way that that they explained to Brad Pitt when they were giving him the mission when they literally just say like in these mini words like so we need you to go to the moon then you're GonNa talk. Your Dad then we're GonNa go to Mars and then you're GonNa and everyone's just so straight face like this is what they do every day you know and he's like I'm going tomorrow. Sir Yes sir. It did feel kind of funny like he was playing it as like wow wow this is what the future is going to be like and it's just normal that anyone get that if anything. I I got I told Jerry about this movie that the tones felt odd the the Natasha Leone character felt like a weird yeah. Those were just a weird cast like a weird placement that made it seem kind of absurd like Yep. You're here on the moon. When you're hearing Mars now. Welcome put on your shoes on the moon. That's absurd you know we'll she has this bombastic personality and it's part of her as a character actress but the weird thing is is so so about what Ryan was saying and how everyone is just so stoic and everything they say. I think that that's an overall motif in the film. There's all this thing about psychology tests and psychological tests S. and there's a patch on his neck that he connects to these tests so that they can test his That's like like how how sound is he psychological yeah so her inclusion into this very fleshed out world in where people's mental states are very closely monitored at all times was a bit bizarre but more on the psychological tests. Did you guys think that he was actually psychologically unfit for the mission. was there any hint of criticism to this militarize technology because I was a couldn't seem to detect nuance couldn't seem aims to detect what was going on beneath the surface the entire movie he's he's buried his anger radio talked about he's buried his his true feelings for his father and that feeling of abandonment then he just be buried everything way down yeah so clearly. It's like it seems like an easy test to spoof like just to sort of. I don't know because at the very beginning he's able to keep heap his heart rate down. Remember calling and it's like forty five or whatever but I don't know when when the machine says he's psychologically unfit for the mission. Shen that's when he sneaks on board and gets those three people killed. I mean you could make an argument that he was a psychological for that mission. We don't know what happened with that like what happened. After he killed those people like when he returns to Earth is is that fine yeah. That's got he actually yeah you know people. We don't know what happened. Actually it didn't murder them. They died they. I mean he put the jeopardy by did an okay so that's a whole nother thing but he's in V is is there some sort of commentary being made about military obedience because he's just saying guys. I am not your enemy do not attack me and of course they do in the end up getting being attacked. The world is online dude humanity. You have one guy on I would kill him to. If I was one of those people it's like do we're going to say the fucking plane and get the fuck Outta here. You know get the fuck off my bus like it's not just some dude. It's the guy who came with you the first the first time that's that's true sociopathic thing you did. That was a little crazy. It was crazy but you're right. All of humanity is at stake and you're GONNA fuck with Brad Pitt uh-huh yes. I've been trained to kill anyone that gets in my way of saving the world okay included okay yeah the other thing the weird remember the part where they are landing the ship on. It's either the moon or Mars and one of the guys is having a panic attack attack or something yeah what what was up with that so the COPA remember the the pilot the captain yeah died with the APE killed him number yeah yeah so now the CO pilot would sort of like he was a meek cowardly kind of guy who is nervous and scared and really couldn't command the ship okay and so he couldn't land so brad it had to do the work for him and he said you know why did that right because we would have died if you if I didn't intervene and that's why Brad Pitt is then compelled to say you won't successfully complete this mission mission if I'm not on board with you. That's why I'm going to go on and infiltrate the ship and I'M GONNA. Go get this job done yeah. What do you think of that. Ryan those guys those guys would have been worked by Tommy. Lee Jones Jones already took out seven other signs or whatever you would like to point. That guy was not going to get anyone one anywhere bad driver. He was a nervous wreck man yeah. How did he pass his test. Yeah exactly what was his heart. Rate was yeah your heart rate one ninety eight Can I ask about Donald Sutherland. Yeah so this character number this guy. This was Tommy Lee Jones old friend friend. He was the guy who was there to monitor him through the first step up to the moon and I thought I told you I thought it felt like Virgil like character from Dante's inferno the show you how bad the world is and I'm going to show you this. I'm GONNA show you space but is characterised ended up disappearing after me and he died yeah he died on that first mission because it was too too streams who stress US yeah so but what what was his minutes more to the theme of when you basically like ambition people can is the dark side yeah yeah what I mean. He's the one ultimately who shows him. What does he show him. He gives them the tape now. What does he give him. Donald Sutherland gives him a hard hard drive. That has something on it. Which has Tommy Lee Jones on the the footage yeah footage but not the footage not. The healing ish copilot's right that. which was the woman showed him at in on Mars now? Wasn't he supposed to not give that to him. No he wasn't he was like here. This is my secret thing getting it to you. It's meant to believe that maybe maybe I'm over thinking this that he was killed. Instead of him not actually surviving the procedure because he did that old he was he was old. You go to your point of of military obedience. You know that he probably had these secrets that he wasn't supposed to give and then he does and it saves the World Yeah. It's it's the chain of command breaking kicking down that ultimately saves the planet or saves. I guess not the planet but saves the those waves from hitting us. We can does save the planet. We save our podcast. We'd be having these like surges right. Now is the big not for the deep state man. That's has but as a character yeah. What is he's like the noble like the wise man what what is he? What purpose does he serve in the plot aside from giving him ninety that crucial information. He's the why it's like a surrogate get father and he knew his dad friends or colleagues before yeah. I Dunno just seem to win the whole thing the whole movies it's just fathers and sons in space right and it starts off as like a surrogate father scenario. CHICAGO COM father's base yeah and then live tyler character attorney very flat character. She's a vignette character visited her character and Armageddon Nice right and very similar movie and it was just it was a day of shooting a lot of b-roll and that's it. I mean that was yeah. That was disappointing like Jerry. Don't use someone famous famous. If you'RE GONNA be that role that flout role. It's just too much like Oh look. Bats live tyler washy starting to really look like Stephen these days. let's talk about the moon is one of my favorite parts of the movie. I love that the moon looks like a commercial airline because it is and they're taking Virgin Atlantic that must have been product placement and it is such a good world building moment to establish how there's contested territory on the moon wound gives us an idea of and more to the point of at the beginning them not over explaining what exactly is wrong with earth and what exactly the hope that the extraterrestrials restrooms can point to is this definitely seems to suggest that there is a lot of unease among the relationships to the powerful nations and it's all explained not not through a title card not through dialogue but through a pretty bad ass chase awesome with a bunch of buggy. Larry and you know like all space movies do they do really great silent action scenes because there's no sound and space race pirate chasing on sales like Mad Max was cool. It was really cool. It was cool so another thing. The name of the ship is the sexiest which I was wondering if there was any anything relevant to this because usually if there is a ship named after something from theology it's usually relevant so cepheids was the name of two eighth Ethiopian kings. I think it's tough talk you there. In his grandson. Pitiless grants grandfather and grandson. I think the grandfathers the more famous one he married Cassiopeia and had and had the daughter Andromeda Andromeda Cassiopeia fucked up because she boasted that she and her daughter were more beautiful than the daughters of Segodnya presiding got pissed and then the parents parents kiss Cassiopeia and sephias decided that in order to appease poseidon they needed to chain their daughter to Iraq and sacrifice her but she ended up getting saved by Perseus so I mean there's obviously a lot of difficult complex relationships between children and parents. Yeah you're right. That's all I can really drive out of this. I don't think there's any real one to one here. I don't know if necessarily we believe that McBride sacrificed his his son may be only in a very loosely metaphorical way what yeah I think it's probably just they chose that because a general election on parents children and did you get like there was a noble lie moment. They're like a like a dark night moment when they you know be timely. Jones's character held up as a hero for the world. At at least I mean it's sort of a secret within the government at the beginning right yeah because we don't really see how his legacy is written down for the books at the end right. That's no no just as a car as as a as a person he's sort of like Oh. He and all these other people were on this mission. They died trying to save humanity. It was a hope commission and how sad yeah but yeah I thought something a little moment of that. Little glimmer of that noble live piece that yeah you got to get to keep the heroes man yeah Jordan. It's called a man who shot liberty valance lie not a rock night or afford Apache lie. We're going to probably do a noble live video right yeah John Ford whereas John Ford Risen die before her if the legend is cooler than the truth print the legend breath. That's a fucking movie last thing I want to talk about. Is the production design yeah. Did you know let me ask really quickly. underproduction designed just that first scene was pretty pretty cool the antennas and falling off. Did you get nauseous because you're you're sort of motion. Sickness man like no I. I don't often get most movies. The last last movie I got motion sick in was the Bourne supremacy mine was Russian ark that one got me too because that has a big old wide lens and it's nauseating yeah yeah the production design really interesting. There are a couple of times where things just seemed very exaggerated so for example sample in the room where he's recording the message to his father. The paneling on the walls that muffles the sound are way more angular than normal remember. It's like it's like those things but way longer longer. There's no actual practical benefit to that right. It's just some sort of hard layer would now. I think that you do want like irregular shapes and sound rooms. It was probably a really cool recording studio radio when you look at Apple Apple has like these quizzes is some kind of crazy test for like ten a coverage. It was like this crazy room that looked like that or that world's quietest rogue world world the potassium guy had derek has like this weird room. It's always so hard for me to where's the line between design and act to calibrate it looked. It looked like DOC legit. I mean a little more extreme extreme version of it but it did look like it could be a really quiet like completely soundproof yeah room which I think. It's like a lot security obviously like into he has to do you guys think about the com room. They called it. I thought that was a little cheesy eh but it was a room like with all the projections all all the projections on the wall. It seemed like something that was less than five minutes into the future more like one minute in the future. I I just felt like there was probably a better way to to a more futuristic interesting way that wasn't crazy. Sifi but I just have a hard time believing that would really work that I have seen of a calm room and several sci fi stuff like I think there's one black mirror. I want to say and I'm yeah in my mind. I'm always in like like like who would actually use this this way in like massive twelve foot projections of bees like flowers and yeah sunset. I don't know to me. AECOM room would be more like in bladerunner twenty forty nine. They give you like a woman and home down. Yeah exactly our guys has boy. 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I actually actually couldn't believe how much action was in this movie because the poster is just Brad Pitt's face. It looks like the poster for her uh-huh so as soon as we got that scene and then there was a scene of spaceship I was like Oh damn yeah I thought it was I think because of all that action and that's closer to earth and it kind of gets like it kind of gets lesser and lesser as he travels obviously alone Tommy Lee Jones. We're going to have a big showdown like a big big showdown or something a little more. It was just it was an emotional showdown. Really it was just like let me go man like okay. I don't know he's he straight up said I didn't give a fuck about you. You want your mum showdown. That hurts yeah. That should scars. I'm sure but then he just sort of I don't know he gets the very final farewell. He was just like all right. Let me go okay because he got to let go of not only history but him emotionally. You don't need your father's approval. Yeah you know enjoy yourself spent your whole life trying to measure up to your dad and he don't give a fuck. I'll tell you about my dad right now. I took my dad when Israeli restaurant I took him to. The HIP is place in the neighborhood. Abra Hood and the restaurants called Mazda which means what's this. I take him there and the whole time he's just complaining. This is not Israeli food food and then he's keeps using the name like Maza like what's this shit the whole time and then I talked to him yesterday and he said how's that terrible restaurant. You won't let it go so now I just gotTa. Let him go. I know you know I don't know just an example of difficult relationships between sons and fathers. Yep so you gotta take him into space next time our guys. We're going to go into the mail bag. We got a voicemail service hit. US UP WITH QUESTIONS comments two one three five three four eight zero. Oh seven or two one Elf hut. Oh seven where the elves party. We got one from Erin about a movie. That's coming out this week. That people seem to be talking about. They wise crackers there in here. just had a question for the folks. There show me the meaning What did you know the the new joker movie coming up a question of always wanted to ask if you if there's no inherent meaning to life in pretty much are only purposes to find our own film our own joy then. Is it better to try to live your life as Batman or to try to live your license the joker 'cause I mean Batman. He seems pretty miserable. He seems torture. He's tormented. He's got all that money and he's still can't find teeth as to where the joker. Jews always has a smile on his face. He's always having fun. You know he's found some meaning and trying trying to destroy that man you know. He has a relationship in his life with Harley Quinn. He seems to be having a blast now. Does you know destroy a lot of other. People's lives in the process but you know he doesn't really care about that so his individual happiest. I think is far above Bruce Wayne. Okay so if we are not under some type of higher law or obligation to be moral Who should we try to follow. I just love to hear you guys have taken that very question and very punchy that man unfortunately we well. We live in a society you know. Oh and we have to take other people's pain into consideration but also I mean the way that Aaron is describing the jokers as a hedonist. Now I mean if you were if there's truly no meaning to life than there isn't meaning and pleasure either so I mean being a hedonist is not being an eyeless. They're not the same and as far as whether you're supposed to be joker Batman I would say neither man. I don't definitely don't be the joker definitely not not because yeah I mean. We live in a society. You wouldn't want someone to be the joker to you yeah. Yeah that's like a simple morality party and sort of yeah treat others sort of thing but it's yeah his point is a little more nuance than I because yeah the hedonism so wherever ever the joker drives his pleasure from that's fine but at the same time if if you don't have any greater belief in a goodwill or in incompassion and and life is meaningless and life doesn't matter and our lives don't matter at all. I guess the question is is there something to his madness. Is there something to that and that's. I wonder if this movie is going to explore that sort of that sort of direction. I I don't think so. I think it's just going to be the king of comedy plus yeah which I want to send into madness. Yeah I think it's going to be madness. As slightly enduring in the way that Rupert Pumpkin is enduring and I think that there might be some sort of social you'll message because with with taxi driver which by the way Ryan. What do you think of taxi driver a huge fan. are where's the last time you saw it. ooh five years ago. It is slower than most people. Give it credit for dude. I I mean shoot some. I'm probably GONNA lose credibility but I don't like that. I don't like that move. I mean look perform. Gritty performance is probably the most important aspect of a movie but it's not enough and I think that's all that movie has going for it. He's a Robert Robert De Niro's amazing but at the end of the day this movie is He's not likeable at all and he's just kind of a like a angry in-cell who becomes a white knight and is totally delusional. Yeah I mean I I that movie is is an anti hero movie. You're not supposed to root for the character you know and it's but you kind of end up doing or do rooting for the character. All I did the first time I saw it but I've seen it three times now in the last two times. I watched it it. I didn't root for him ever thought he was misguided all point then I felt bad for I felt like everybody else and I felt like this guy's yeah I gotTA. Stop Yeah and that's the King of comedy on the other hand is amazing. I have not seen that one's great. makes me a little bit concerned for the joker movie. I hope oh I don't hate it but that's the movie. We're doing next week so tune but anyway let's do Let's do another one this this one on shutter island. This is from anonymous back doc I really love your podcast on certain islands. I just I would add that from I actually have to agree that when I I thought I I felt that he knew who he was very ends at the movie when he said that when he went back into the Teddy terracar began to say that you know is it better to you live. I live with a Mosser Isaac Advance and I think the evidence I was positive not just that but also just the meaner He's so much if you look at him he's so much calmer also talked about how the colors were different for the ending of the movies. I'm they revert back to that sort of shady color. You know think if back in the solution and then also you know just much more manic dress the movie even those last lines in the sort of petty character saying. Oh Yeah I'm almost at the bottom of this mystery I think that was really him just pretending he realized that he didn't WanNa live anymore. He wanted to be lobotomize that the only way that he could get lobotomize because if he pretended tended to be teddy one more time so he's really just line. He's pretending that he's teddy just to get just to be compared the lobotomy and just you know put himself out of his misery and that one final line to that okay well that does my thoughts think guys but the podcast what you're doing by. We got a lot of emails about this and I think everybody else nailed it and we slightly missed it that that he is pretending to be the duly appointed federal marshal so that he can be lobotomize. D- yeah we we got another e mail from Alex Alex says had a quick thought about shutter island but at the end. Leo's character goes back to his delusions. My thought is that I don't think he actually believes he. Is the detective anymore. More I think he deliberately chooses to act as tenny teddy. The main thing that makes me think about this question at the end the way he says this then looks at Mark Ruffalo character kind of makes me wonder if this is a a deliberate act if he knows that he'll be lobotomize and he wants to any wants that over living with the knowledge of what he is slash has done at that you would rather die in a sense a good man than live is a monster who killed his wife. Show me the meaning crowd. You guys nailed on showed us the meaning baby that's right from becky also she says my first interpretation of the ending was that teddy had been cured and he's choosing to die is a good man by getting the lobotomy as he felt that living with the knowledge of murdering his wife would be living as a monster kind of like the end of old boy however she says my second interpretation was the was from the perspective that it was selfish teddy you to do that in the context that his doctor was trying to forward the treatment of mental health for violent offenders and his sacrifice probably set that back indefinitely so in this case the the roles would be reversed in that he would live as a good man by admitting that he was cured and showing that he doesn't need a lobotomy therefore advancing mental health treatment or dying as a good man. The the OP or and dying is a good man. The opposite would be true. Hope that made sense email about this whole thing because that's that's a totally twisted point else's made is that he would really to be the ultimate he would be the the poster child for this for this technique and no he didn't do it yeah well but her point is that if he was conscious enough to be able to choose to deliberately oh I'm going to I know I now know the division between my real self and my delusion. I'm going to choose to wear the delusion. Uson therefore he is achieved some status of mental health so apparently it did work in some way but it'll be we remembered as a failure exactly yeah yeah. Are we gonNA do one more. This e mail is from smokey. Horizons by the way hit us up at movies at wisecracker dot. Co Dot Co not dot com so this is about the dark knight rises. He says while listening to your podcast I noticed during your dark knight arises would he never talked about the shooting that tied with it. I know I personally hate watching the movie because I was living in Aurora at the time and was worried about friends who were die. Hard fans worried that they had gone to the theater that night. Thank goodness they hadn't but now when I see it. I just feel anxiety. I was wondering what your thoughts on how the shooting could have changed the general public's perspective perspective of the movie and if you feel it ties you're viewing of the movie like if the media showing what had happened all over TV made the experience of watching the movie. The for the first time tainted for you though thank you for that email smokey horizons first of all I saw it at midnight so I was unaware of it when when I saw the first time me to also say that I think that really the thing that's tainted is still more of the joker and we're seeing evidence of that. even though it was before the midnight screening of the dark knight rises he was dressed as the joker and it seemed to be more of a people remember it more as connected to the dark knight rather than the Dark Knight rises at least in my mind and yeah I mean you see that with you know there are some the the twentieth yeah twelve and you even see that today with some perhaps station lowest headlines about up security. Joker screenings leanings this weekend. I mean honestly we're getting some pretty dark territory here but I am worried about this weekend due to be completely honest I mean I figured you would would be in to be honest. I'm not I'm not not. I mean look I. I'll I'll say that I'm going. I'm choosing my theaters consciously. I'm not going opening weekend and and but I'm honestly not a huge fan so I don't really care about going opening weekend but definitely not yeah careful. Man Sick walks out there. Do those copycat killers trying to get the highest score fucking idiots anyway. All right goes without saying obviously well. What about the movie. What do you do does the is. The movie tainted it all for you. Either one of you know fuck no two separate things and I totally everyone wanted to go. read Joaquin Phoenix's I thought great answer to people asking about this and Todd Phillips they straight up say I I will talk about this and I till the cows come home and defend their movie because it's not up to the fuck in filmmakers to teach morality at the end of the day is kind of what Joaquin in Phoenix said and I one hundred percent agree with that and you know you can't make movies just thinking about there being fucked up people in the world and how Vail will consume it the actions that amount of AIDS yeah separate from the phone yeah our guys well well. We're going to be covering joker next week so tune in and we'll be breaking down the movie WanNa. Thank Jacob and Ryan joining me sure thing. Don't forget to WHO. check out us. Check us out on medium join me at the Austin Film Festival check out the South Park podcast. I'm hoping it's going to be a good season so far. It's good yeah so until next time I'm Sierra Goodbye from Palmer. City California doesn't have the same ring Hollywood over here Bob Alright. Everybody Checkout Ryan Shorts for sure funny stuff man all right one piece.

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53 - The Best Breakfast Foods EVER

The Valleycast

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53 - The Best Breakfast Foods EVER

"The guys welcome to the valley cast did it together that was fun. Our internet is literally keeping us from playing a an interesting narrow, but I'm gonna give it another shot area to say love this. One sounds really. Should we try try? Okay. We love here. Yeah. It's not gonna work. Wow. That's crazy. This is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna leave it on play. And decides to play we'll just stop and let it go back. It'd be like a little Jack in the box because this is the podcast from the valley folk, we're a court head of comedians and entertainers that came back together. And we sit around here in top talk about topics with the friends, and it's good times. Shout out to our patrons. At patriot dot com slash valley. Folk, we get to do this because of you, and we super appreciate it. And if you wanna be part of the fan. Wow. Almost timing. Almost got I got a little verbose. I should've stopped. I should've stopped. Ripley? I love that was great. Her name starry dime. The starry mind thing. On on soundcloud. This users name is Savon of OSs abo N Savan. Thank you. And it's called the valley folk fem-, I I love it. It's so good. I to see a video of the character. That is playing the Tampa, and the background goes a little crazy. He's dome world. Yeah. Chew grit type shit. I sound that's gone. What was the setting in your mind? I was in a by you. Oh, I was in a cabin. Does your desk seeing like bones in like vultures? And. Mountlake out desert. Mt. Elliott we're talking about. I have not thought about anything. Are you guys? Welcome to the podcast on this show. We all bring a topic to that. And sometimes. Did that part? Oh, sorry. Distracted by fifty five. More time. We do this. We all bring topic to the Elliott your turn. Okay. Let's dive right in. I. What we do. Version of it, folks. Welcome to the valley cast. This is a podcast from the valley folk we are a group of comedians who decided to get together after something called source fed came back together a bunch of people supported us. And now we have a job where we get to make podcasts sketches on news, videos, and all sorts of fun things and MRs part of that. And that's I don't know what your motivation is. I don't understand your character Lee. Would you like to say? Joe? Talking about all for you. I do. That's just like straight up, ripping off cereal. Please. I couldn't pull. And this time minutes could you play a serial opening for me. So I can. I'll do my best just not gonna happen. Very upset. I am because I don't have my call it up in a second. Ability to pull up some stupid sound effects in quick wit. I know I can't even do thing. I'm powerless this episode visually. If you're watching the video, I can kinda see I don't know how it looks in the final product. It's interesting that the middle people are all worrying yellow and the outer people are wearing blue blue. I'm also not wearing makeup because like, we're. You're ill. Looks like you're wearing a little bit of makeup. Yeah. Yeah. I have actually I am wearing makeup. Guys. I wanna talk a little bit. I can I just jump in. We're on a weird place. Day four of rain in LA. I don't know if anyone knows day four rain only turns people into just mush don't want it anymore. Yeah. That's what it does. Hold on a second. Just I didn't sleep. Well, it was all this rain noise. I literally turn on white noise. Rain noise. Got me. So distracted really noisy in my house. I love it. Normally just a matter with, you know, it's not a bad thing. It was just I was so loud as like tink tink tink in on stuff, we this. This rain is. Love it. Normally, I'm just saying last night. He was a heavy rain. It kept me up. We need it. I, but I don't want it anymore. I need it. I want so wrong. So crazy, we get no. We never get rain in L on it. Like it. We also don't fit it. When we you know, like, we need it when the fires are fucking Bruin. But we need the the rebuild part of the destroy part. Do you know what I love about it so much? I know I know like. I'm I'm layers woman. That's for sure. Great I belong in layers. Pleasing in layer. If I were to go shorts on a T shirt, you're not gonna like what you see want must. You're wearing seven shorts. I've seen I've seen you in shorts shirt. And it's a nightmare. It's a it's a nightmare talk about it. Even in audio form. It's not something that you want to see. Crab. It's like everything in LA or this area. If the rain hits for a day like in we've had it for four or five. Now, the it's like the earth x hails and everything becomes this bright greed, sewn a couple days. Yeah. The hills are alive. Mel's good like gutters. And gross areas of the street. Get clean for once. I'm not like boming that it's raining. I'm just going to be happy when it's done because it has been constant like I get when it's like I would like in. I think he would like it more. If one you had a fireplace too. If you had anyone in your life that knew how to drive in the rain 'cause you hate it from driving perspective. That's what I get in Los Angeles. Who knew how to drive that's what I I'm like, oh, if everyone knew how to handle it like up north where I'm from everyone knows how to handle it. Everyone's great Alaska slowdown up north. It was demon. There's a trick driving in the rain, which is you just be more careful, and you'd be more cautious. Put people think that they need to ignore it. And they think that that's what driving in the rain is. I'm not going to remember. No, you just be more cautious. Thank you. Well, tell Elliott pretty of seconds. With this topic that I have. So there's a new men in black international with Chris Hemsworth. And who's Tessa thomps has atop? And it's you love Tessa times. I loved hesitance on I think she's gorgeous. She's wonderful. I think she's a talented woman likes us, very natural and calm on screaming. Becoming the new Jennifer Lawrence in the sense that she's an everything, and she's just charming, and she's funny, and she's a very attractive woman and. Marriage -tective walk. Yeah. It was a small strike. But yeah, I just hope we don't get tested out the. Yes. Well, everybody out is if we like hear her in an interview, and we don't Mike because that's what happened with Jennifer Lawrence. Right. That's true. I think it's just Jennifer Lawrence did too many bad movies. And for me, it was just like well, wait until she does something real good again. But I still love her. I think she's great. But we got a new men in black. Okay. Movie coming out, and it's like. Why why I mean, I don't care because it's like interest men in black is like interesting. It's a wonderful franchise. I think I feel like they made like two more than they make like three they made three they made a third one that was like time travel. Josh, Josh Brolin. And I didn't think that was very good. I didn't mind it. I thought it was a fun. At least if you're gonna go for it. You know, I thought it was like a fun way to go about it. I really did. Yeah. I I liked the second one. Really? Yeah. Johnny knoxville. And oh third. One was. Yeah. Germain's one didn't do it for him same. But Laura Flynn Boyle Lara Flynn as lower lower the second definitely one of those where I feel like the first one is so much better than the others that to even like any like I have to not like I loved men in black. I love, but I don't like any of the sequels and. Yeah. The second one again, I think is quite a while. But the first one's a classic and. I'm doing it again. And it's not really they're not calling it as it's like a what they're saying. Is this a half sequel half reboot of the comic book franchise? Oh, just getting to do it again. But it's like they all look the same. They all have the same types of suits and guns in their cars. All kind of look the same food Tessa Thompsons zoo, and it's also like same kind of creatures to showing up. So it's like a puppy looking. Yeah. They all look the same. There's those little guys that were like in the airport. They're like always mop dang. Minions. Love to them in the first one they really are the precursor. Another tattoo. Everybody back America. I I don't know if it's just America might be Japan. And it doesn't wanna talk about the two, but the everyone like movie goers just love it when there's like a little creature. That's like, hey, I'm walking like a New York lake guy. Yeah. Topic is the tattoo. Yeah. Everybody loves that. Like, you know. That's why the minions are so popular because they're just these like little. Just throw Kanana's at million south light. Movies. Are you watching? I saw the first time. I saw minions was in France. And so the dub that they had with sound like that. So, hey. Walk in the. But yeah, I saw it was in France in France. And that's when you went to go see despicable me. You're like, you know, what France, and I'd love to go see the film. But yeah. So this men in black movies coming out. And I just don't know how I feel about it. And I don't know if it's connected to the original franchise or not, but it seems aesthetically too. But it's like Liam Niessen is in him. Leeson's like the new Tommy Lee Jones. He's part of the men in black. I like. Yeah. Man. Like, I understand your reservation for it's like you. We get a little tired of things and feels like the rehash gets a little a little tiring as well. However past is so damn solid, and they're involved in such a solid franchise that I'm giving it a chance great. Come on, man. And then if new technology and special effects, if it's good script. I'm I have a lot of if it's 'cause par-three was not very good. And I love Chris Hemsworth. But it's like his character wasn't that greatly different. Like it is. It sounds like it's going companion. It doesn't. I think it's like a it's a it's the test Thompsons playing kind like the new blood like the Wilson. A lot of like just asides to the old one where it's no little inside wink inside because it already had the guys the airport guys speak with New York jersey. Or would you say that like? That like Trump style character and like incorporate that because in the world minute black. I think would be interesting with a president that didn't know or was oblivious to the men in black or something like that. Yeah. They're also take the probably knocking with the probably will do is. I've just a bunch of dumb jokes and allusions. Well, the point of international this isn't based in the US. That said would be. It's interesting that it's international, but it's like still Americans, except Chris Hemsworth Niessen and Liam Neeson through it doesn't time. None of those people are Tessa Thompson. No. I think isn't doesn't you have an accent. No. Tessa? Thompson is see if I can Google this real quick the luck. I had to Thomson was five minutes ago. When you first mentioned there because I didn't know who you're of course, I knew. Of course, I knew now. What was going to say about this damn franchise? I think it's good. I I like the first one oh remember in the first one. I think it's the first maybe it's the Seguin. But it's like Michael Jackson is like I'm trying to joint. Never like Michael Jackson is in men in black. That's right. He's he like it's like they walk it wills with walks into a scene that's already happening. And it's a watchers. We're talk like that. He's he's like ribs horn. Yeah. Rip torn is like how do you forget rip? He's talked. I remember in his like bug character. It's rip torn and he's in the minute block headquarters and on his big screen is Michael Jackson. And he's like come on. Let me Joe agent m he's now Marano and then like hangs up on it. It's literally the quickest CR remember that. He's like wearing the suit and every can be agent. It's like they're just making. Yes. Yes. One hundred percent is my exit. What a treasure it said that he had a hell of a sense of humor, Michael Jack. Yeah. Really enjoyed comedy. That's why he was part of the Simpsons and stuff episode. Also that heat MacAulay Culkin recently was like really candid about his time being friends with Michael Jackson. And he's just like, you know, he's an adult. He's been through a lot of shit. And he's like Michael was my like one of my best friends. Never never tried to do anything suspect with me. And just like we just we connected because we had abusive fathers. I do I was bartender at a bar forever. And Corey Feldman Oldman used to come in all the time. And I would always talk to about Michael his stripper scat. He he would. But. Time and he was like the nicest guy, but he would literally contract. That's not what are you? What do you? Abyan Jackie pill. That's your cool a little bit higher little bit higher. We have a jacket co knows gravelly. He let me a jacket coat is. Others more like this. No, no. He was like really almost like now he kinda almost has. Yeah. He's chewing on his mall is. He would come in a lot. And he would talk about how wonderful Michael Jackson was. He was like he was so sweet kindest person around. He was like no one like we all loved him. We all just human being. I do think that he that. I don't know we talk about this for completely different. Remember hearing those things from very personal side of Corey fail as a wonderful human being. And I was always like all right? And again, you just recently mccully Kokin came out and was like this is the skinny on my he was just like a sad guy that had no childhood was trying to relive it. And who knows I think, I don't know. I think they really did turn him into a villain. I think they the utilize that as a way to kind of generate tabloid popularity and kind of like it was an easy target. I guess I don't know because he was a weird guy. But there's also this stuff that he was doing lended itself to like door New Orleans inappropriate. Yeah. Yeah. You just can't do them. Even if you are a mega someone that's the clear mental. At a time. When mental illness wasn't really looked at. That's the thing. We're like it's weird. And it's like well. Yeah. But why is it like all these weird definitions of like, I don't know that mental illness people that just be like, that's crazy. Instead of presenting as like a let's help him. Let's like like look at this case of someone that clearly needs help they use it as a way to kind of like what you're saying. Is you're not into the final men in black. You don't. One more thing men and black. Do wanna see it though. Gonna see one of the coolest things about men in black. The original one was the the I love the storyline of like, you're gonna get your fingerprint burned off, and you're never gonna see your family again. And this is your life forever. And no one will ever know and you'll die and number like fat stuff is like so interesting because that's that military grade like your dedicating your life to the service forever and ever. And then you find out that it's insane like organization with I love that like like in terms of heart in the in the franchise. I think that's like my favorite through lines conspiratorial stuff, and would you forever? I mean, that's the fun thing to imagine super cool concept, the concept of so it's actually based on the idea that there are like Ling. It's concern. Black love that you said heart because the Tommy Lee Jones through line, it, just tears your heart. Yeah. Exactly. It's heartbreaking in its watching him on the satellite. Look at his like, a strange love hours. It's like, oh my God or do gardening so beautiful. It's a it is a really good concept. Tommy Lee Jones might be my top five top ten v ledger for sure I love Tommy Lee gin. So fucking funny rap on screen that like he is like Liam Neeson or whatever where oh, you put them in a no country for old men or something like that. It's like you believe it. He has weathered old dude that you wouldn't fuck with. But if you need him to he will be the funniest motherfucker on the screen. I wanna see Tommy Lee Jones and Harvey tell do a tarintino movie together magin that where. -magine that is old old. And now, I can't put up isn't Harvey tell in the newest maybe he's in a lot of turn. Tina, Tommy Lee Jones is playing the captain on the enterprise for the next Star Trek Antena stretching. Yeah. You didn't know that? Jesus christ. That'd be the coolest. The. What? Joan all captain. Are you kidding? The. Let's go into law speed. Comedy. Aminian I'm finally avoids the minions. Lick is little boys. That's what the minions day, right? Boyce? Yeah, they're like little monkeys. I feel like we haven't seen a good old. Tommy Lee Jones in a long time now on no he was just on the Golden Globes. Giving mad face. It was a little bit in the final men in black. Right. Wasn't he in? It was three. Yeah. Yeah. He was granted Brolin, but it, but he time travels to younger, and then it is. And then it's Berlin broand did a phenomenal job of. Oh, yeah. He really act that was some shit that you're like, oh that was great. My favorite. Tommy, Lee Jones movies alone away. Have you guys seen blown on hold? It's got Jeff bridges. It's got a little Jones in. It's just all about this done. Couldn't take that sound bite of Steve saying a love Jeff bridges. Turn it into whatever you want. What's that Terry Gilliam movie with love the waker man or the not the wicker, man? What's the one with Robin Williams and Jeff bridges double jeopardy? Fisher king Fisher king. I love rob. Robin. Williams is amazing. I love double jeopardy man dope. I don't even know what that double jeopardy is like one of those like, oh, that's a nineties action. All about like, they wanted tender Bullock. Yeah. I just screams and drips nineties. Yeah. That was like that's a movie. My dad would watch. I want you to every parent movie if you husband clear and present danger murder, would you not one hundred percent murder him? Then like, that's how that goes. Right. Like, we can all agree. If your significant other topic framed, you it has to Walker to significant other frame, do you for murder, and you went into jail, and then you found out that they were just wanting to be with someone would you not merge us murder them. I mean, I mean, I don't wanna go to jail for murder. No, you won't. It's double jeopardy. You can't get convicted for a crime you've already. I don't think I really believe in those movies and TV shows when they say like when you kill someone. You're never the same. You change. I really believe that. So I wouldn't want that life. Where like I've changed or what have you changed for the better? Yeah. Oh, I mean. Yeah. Most people who. Anybody I've ever met his killed. Somebody is like, I know I shouldn't have done it. But honestly, it's women who made me who I am. It's like having chilling growth. Committing final thoughts on men in black three where we're gonna see it was like men back four five. I mean, one of a new franchise. I don't know I feel like Sony is hanging onto their franchises. And I really really really really wanted to see there was that rumor that there was going to be a crossover of twenty one jump street and men in black. I remember that it was going to be. Joe Dona hell becoming members of men in black. That was that's where I thought they were going in for really long time. That's where they were going and even member when that big Sony Lee. And it was like there was even like a script in there or something like that. But I don't know what happened is that is that would have been it would have been bombed. Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm gonna utilize the word unprecedented. I don't think something like that has ever happened. That's the thing that would make original right? Not just this sort of. It's kind of this franchise did very well. This franchise did very well, very fricken different actually integrate them into one eight would be like an adventures for Sony. They would because they would have Will Smith and Tommy Jones potentially. And then they'd have Channing Tatum Jona hill, and then all their group of appetite. Like a sitcom crossover episode from the nineties. But it also really similar to like back in the early nineties or late nineties when they would do the like Tommy boy, and then a black sheet. Oh, we very similar dynamic exact same. It would be kind of like one of those where it's just like. Okay. We're just watching them in this world, you know? But I don't mind those or the welfare like who is there was another one where it was like a couple that would just like those SNL couples. I would go it was like Tina Fey, and we'll all or like TD Amy Poehler they did like baby, mama. And then they did that sisters movie where it was the same Belushi. All those were. It's like it would just be. Here's this dynamic that we're seeing in a different right, right? Which is always fun. I think that will always work as long as they're very good. Like, I hear that show with what's her name ten minutes about older women that are like they live together. It's on net flicks. They're like, they're like widows, Frankie, Frankie as you. I love it. It's actually really killer writing and the bigger thing too that I like about it is that there are things that are brought up that because it's not my age because it's like like it brings up things that I would never think about as far as like aging and aging and aging. She was just killer and Bonita. No. I just like that. When you're like. Oh, actually, that's fuck something. I'm never thought about ever and. Okay. But it's really very funny. They have a really good dynamic Jane Fonda still of babe. Yeah. Yeah. Thomas rhett. She's wondering I'm holding out. Hope don't see it in the theater. I'll see it probably plex. I'll see in the theater. Yeah. Yeah. Go on record saying that you will see men in black four in the theater. I mean. Yeah. I don't have anything to hide. Less like if the reviews come in. And it's like, oh, this is one of the worst movies of all time. I'm not one who will go at then I'll draw the line. It's if I get were that it's extremely bad. I'm not going to be like critics wrong. I mean like now everyone's. Hear about otherwise, Holmes and Watson thing. Oh, one of the worst. It's like people were walking out of the eater. And make you want to go. See it though. A little bit. But people were saying like don't even think you're gonna get an ironically funny time late, I'm out. That's I read threads and threads and threads of people. That were like, I know you wanna see you John C Reilly you love welfare. Trust me. There's not one laugh in this movie. It's awful so sad. I know it's crazy. I have started to see the counter articles that are that are saying, it's so bad. It's good. Like, oh, that's a tough. There. Are there are other people start trusting the other side just saw the same tough? That's difficult to. Yeah. Sounds like fake fake news. But that's an example of a movie that like even though I wanted to see it so bad like I had planned to see it on Christmas day because. Because. Yeah. Get right Riley like lives stepbrothers is like one of the fucking best comedies ever. And like, I love them. You. Them and tell a date nights. I think they're wonderful. For him to be like a because he's actually giving like Oscar buzz about the STAN and Ollie shit like so how weird right? First movie that people are talking about talking about John C Reilly. Yeah. Can't wait. Let's go podcast with Adam McKay on it. And I guarantee a guarantee they don't give a fuck. They got what they wanted now. And they're okay with that. They they're disappointed that a flop they hate a guarantee the hate that still be welfare. Yeah. They watched it. And we're like, I can't believe how bad this is. I think they probably made a bunch of choices that was saying tried something a little bit different. And it just didn't hit and they are probably happy that they made it on their own. I'd love to hear. I'd love to. I heard someone was saying the other day that there was like massive expensive re-shoots that they just had to consistently do Jackson. I think it's Jackson jumping Jackson's. Okay. Running around out there building free housing ex felt like like literally did feel like the T Rex and all like Louis the water yet. Are we going to die? But yeah, I heard there was just like super expensive re-shoots and things like that. But but another interesting thing too is in those same threads where on read it that. I was on where people are like just saying like don't even bother like, this is crazy some people like a lot of people were like, I'm done with wolf Errol. I'm done welfare was the last thing he made that was funny like they're all these people saying, it was very interesting. That's what I'm saying. Like really think about it. Like, what was the last two? I didn't like anchorman to kicking and screaming will Ferrell, this is an unpopular opinion. But he's never for me personally been someone who I have found consistently hilarious. You and Owen are the same really win is like I don't like stepbrothers. Talladega. A lot of isn't my Cup of tea, and I respect love, and I do think his genius genius. He's just not like what is your Cup of tea? They'll like if you were going to sit down with a nice Cup of tea. I would watch a lot more. I would put people like Jim Carey. Okay. Sure. Sharing stir a camomile or would you go like wouldn't say well above the same. Maybe. Yeah. A camel William. Yeah. All right. Nice. Oh L. Great. Yeah. But that was like. This is very nice. Time and time extra has leering root in it. Then it'll. A little bit of. Do you? Do you guys have topics have another thing topic tonight? I also we're trying to look. Hold on. I'm I'm trying to find out what the last goodwill feral movie is telling you man, there is good. I am actually excited about it's called downhill, and it's with Julia Louis Dreyfuss, and it's not Faxon, and Jim rash. And I love that fax and they wrote descendants. They wrote. So many things, but they are community community. I didn't watch committees Leary's. 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Because I wanted to say it last night at like, you know, dwindling two AM I was like oh my God. I should one hundred percent talk about this on the podcast. And I even wrote it down in my notes. So I could remember it. And then I saw it and it just had breakfast foods. You gotta write that kind of stuff down when it comes to your brain. Otherwise, you're gonna lose it forever. The comedian. It's a good exercise to road. I got it. Guys him Fugger shake it up breakfast. Hot take. It's a it's lightning striking folks. So. Dig in run where do you start? The reason thing about it is because there's a place that near me called the Griddle job Radha used to work at the Griddle. And way, too, many pancake. I want to be honest. It's one of my favorite breakfast places. Probably in the world because it's a delicious pancake. They have different flavors of pancake. They have pancakes assize year noggin. They're just huge in their delicious. Insane wonderful and Anna love it. And I miss it. And on the first places I went it's also like a very like LA kind of like hip, you're gonna wait a while before you go in. But unless deliver. Could you get people in baby? No. 'cause I was lower end of the total. I witnessed someone over at a restaurant a breakfast place in the valley, and I alone, and I went, and we were sitting, and we we were the next people line every for every three people that went through you guys next year's mix. And so we're just gonna sitting there. And then this guy comes in with his girl, and he goes over to the to the like seating guy is dead actor hell, yeah, they like slapped hands and did the fist-bump, and he's like, just whatever you got it, man. I'm my my girl. And I are here were ready, and he's like cool, man. Cool. He's like, yeah. You're gonna have to wait. There's a big line. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like. We're an girl just shakes. I know. He's like, I don't I go someone. Do him. That's the thing that was like that walk from when he says you're going to have to line in front of everybody. And he's just like cool. I mean, we'll just get line than. Sarah, whittle and her husband's namedrop and Shane top namedrop and some other people and we were downtown, and we saw this party happening at a theater and Sarah's like I'm gonna get in. I'm gonna get into this. And she's like, I know how to do this. I know how to and then Claudia was like. I'm going to get in there. And we I'm going to say that we are on the guest. Listen, I and but I'm not from here in Bob. And what is the why? And and so is it phone call? Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, I watched them walk up, and I was talking I think to shade. And I was like there's no way this is going to work like trying to get in somewhere. And then for sure they walked. Walk media is like, no, you're not gonna get into black tie. Because you said that your your, but I respect it though. I respect people who try to. Right. Right. That suck. But you're right. Some people have that gift to people can just like we're in. Let's go music. News it. Yeah. Yeah. I can't I don't I in able to do that. It's such anxiety. This year for girls. Can I say that? Because I literally just thinking I've done that so many times high Benedetta there was a time where and it was at hotel cafe where I would go there. So constantly that the guys knew me. And then they were like, you're not a musician known like why do we let you in all the time. It was like, I don't know. Like, I'm not not. I five feet tall. And I just like to smile. It's so dumb. Hot take breakfast food. Talk about us talk about what do you wanna know if you're gonna love it? I do too. This is my. I Jeff bridges and breakfast. I'm telling you guys breakfast food is my number number, Janice. Black raspberry. Simple, go, strawberries strawberry. Strawberry. I know. It's so weird. Strawberry jam. I don't buy any of them. Jam whether it's chunky or not it has the perfect balance between slate chunk slight Zied, all sweet when you get any other berry in there, your chump and seeds. You got them stuck in your back teeth. I the thing that is important. There's variations of the jams, but what my favorite is the circular kind of metallic jams that aren't you peel off rather than me more rectangular ones that you. You'll surfing dancing talking about singing. Good genius. That's the premium kind the kind that were smucker's kinda stack. I don't mind, but I don't feel that the butter night. Well into the best is when you get those little jars. Brand. Fancy clothes. Fit all on my this is more jam no ever need. Hot jam takes for you. As well. Jam too much jam. Michael Jackson full circle song. Song Tao song for me. I'm I'm like you. I'm down with most jams when it comes to strawberry and stuff like that. I can't have too much junk. 'cause if you get a big old strawberry on it. It's like a jellyfish out of nowhere today. I don't like a jelly. I love preserve. I live for your. Talking preserve. In between preserves the number. What that's gonna chunks of Mr. pope in the going, you know, juice, all of it bring it all on bringing all along. I think I prefer a nice jam continued hot jam jelly, preserve whatever, they all. Are. I like to stay in the color spectrum of red and purple if you get into the yellow jams jellies. Marmalades eight. Sure. Have you ever had a pineapple? Jan. Look, I I used to jam a lot everyone knows about everyone noses. The jam band. And also, I was in a band jam. But I because you guys were on your way on tour in a car broadcasting that was banned jam traffic jam jam. I used to make an orange marmalade that literally took like three days to make. It was delicious. But I would make I made a apple cards to Ave. That's nice little red in there. Like that. You know that there's a famous bear that loves marmalade. Who patching n-? Why don't you give us a little? Paddington voice. Circle. Eggs suck. What you? Fuck off with that. Yeah. That's so crazy. The craziest one my brother doesn't like a. Because I have to be in a mood. But when I am oh, still eg any day. And I'll make a great time out of my life. Statement from someone who is aggressively checked out of the. Oh, my favorite breakfast foods. Fish, my favorite breakfast dish is it is called wave. I discovered it while I was living with you Lee in West Hollywood, California. I would go to kitchen twenty four and I would drink coffee and have whoever's. And then I discovered another place here in Los Angeles called front yard, which is attached to a little teak hotel in the valley, and it has a restaurant in the back, and they're Quito's Renderos best insurance I've ever had. Oh, and I have a typical system of always ordering insurers never really with the hopes that it's going to be as good as the front yard place. But it is it's absolutely so getaway ranchera with you. Don't know is actually a Mexican dish. Probably can't tell from the way it south from Veen's and tortillas and tomatoes. All. It was sauce. Right. Yep. And I get it with a little little sour cream or whatever. And oh my goodness. At eat. Sure, I have. And I think it's good. But I don't REM I can't actually remember I almost wonder at the other day. Didn't eat. It is phenomenal. It is next of all the time. Yeah. I'll definitely I'll definitely I love that. I think that's one of the best. It's so good. It's also like it is the number one hangover like if you ever hungover. Thank you for asking. My favorite is breakfast. Food would be it's very hard because I love breakfast food. It's it's hard to choose. I love a good, biscuits and gravy, scrambled eggs on the size Rabi, baby. I mean, come on. It's the sausage. Wouldn't that cracked pepper and the biscuits? So. And come bless you. And I like a good I like a good chicken fried steak chicken with gravy with gravy, the hit and miss on. That is so risky. I've not had a bad chicken fried steak chicken. I had a bad chicken fried steak in Las Vegas two weeks ago. I was very. I'd be well, let's set every piece of shit food in that town is shit. So I wasn't surprised, but man, the country fried steak is just like it's like, it's a it is hit or miss. But like when it's good gosh darn it's good. So high because of the price that's one of those like that's like the Berge Wasi. Yeah. You get a mean like breakfast a dollar meal or yes. Like playing it's bad. That's all I always pisses me off whenever I have something bad like that. I'm like how dare. Sacred food what you're gonna get when you go into a restaurant? Like, you look around you see how many people are eating there. You couldn't tell if you're going to get a bad also twelve thirty in the morning. Exactly. There's a place in Vegas called hash house ago. There is that that's not where you had the chicken fried steak. You know, it's not okay good. I wonder. Yeah. I went to show Google, and then it was planned plane check plan or no, that's the what's the claim jumper claimed. Jim claim jump in the. Yep. It went to hash also gogo. I have been breakfast food. I think it was a basic like eggs. Okay. Thank you, see the chicken and waffles that they have at the at house gogo. I saw pictures menus insane. So the the the chicken waffles is like their most famous than it's like stacked high, and it's like golden crispy chicken, and and they just like pour syrup all over the thing, and the garnish is really beautiful and it's wrong. Have you been roscoe's for? All right shit. Yeah. Like you haven't lived in LA for forty seven. I've never been. I've only recently tried chicken and waffles from three different places probably within the last year. And I gotta tell you. I've yet to be won over gotta go to Ron. Food preferences. I don't know how to a lot. To impact it says a lot. On a lot of very very specific about what you don't things just like picking. Mehta's and tomatoes. Thanks for asking man favorite breakfast. I'm pretty basic, and when it comes to breakfast, I do know that I miss out on a lot of delicacies due to my aversion eggs, and I've tried I've tried everything. I when I was bulking up in high school like I gotta have omelets I'd make almonds filled with meat and cheese and all the good things vegetables. And there's something about the styrofoam e fo protein taste of exit. I just can't get over. It's just a it's texture. So my breakfast if I'm in a perfect seat. And I'm looking at something that's making me happy probably got a Belgian waffle. Oh. With some kind of fruit. Goodness or center delicacy. It can change awful hanging. No. I've say I I'm kind of. One hundred percent Waffen have these Griddle pancakes. Because if you did you'd banks are good. But it's just sometimes just too thick. And there's just too much to get fast enough. Then you gotta soggy, you got your baby. And I don't want to me. Waffle is just fine. I think I just don't contend that. The walk. The butter on it. Sweet delicacy there, right? My pastry. Basically is what it is right next to it. I got some crispy bacon or or a nicer sausage. Not take an extra crispy say right out of the gate floppy bacon, get flop baking. But I'm never ask for gee. I started doing the extra crispy lately, I know. Alley go. Go get what you want. And sometimes you'd be the extra crispy crispy extra crispy can rip up your mouth, and it'd be like. It'd be like bring home the shadow bring it on home. That's that's a base give you the foundation, though, this meal isn't complete. Helpfully table under. It's gotta have some shredded hash. Oh, yeah. You give me some shredded get rid of those country potatoes. Such a bummer that you don't like X because when you. Into the. Oh. Brown's Davey curl didn't bake this hand. This orange. Julia sex level for me I like to order a mass the gravy biscuits. Country gravy on top of the hash Browns. Yeah. I used to work at a wreck first place when I was like in high school like five AM breakfast. And I put on so much. I literally just I mean, how could you? I would be like biscuits and gravy for free for me gravy. Spooning good morning. My name is Lee. The food being. It was called country waffles, and it was like free, biscuits and gravy because you have that all day long. And I would have it all. Vic and delicious house. I like my grape. Like, little eggs Benedict. See, I think. I really do like a Benedict when it's like a different kind of bread Benedict. Good had a biscuit Benedict and Texas for breakfast. And it was unbelievable. That makes perfect. There's my favorite that. I'm going to say is it's in Portland it's pine state biscuits. And it's delicious biscuit with an egg and bacon and chilies and then great mushroom gravy on top of it. Best mining period. It's so good. It's one of the best breakfast foods period. But if I'm if I'm not there, I'm gonna go the most basic human alive, and I'm like a two way sauce. Oh, you never wrong shirt. Normally kind of person I literally I could order that twenty four seven three sixty five NBC so happy and be just delighted with a little little like bread and. Hey, little yoki. Maybe you ever had a a pigs in a blanket. Oh, yeah. Pancakes sandwich. Pigs. Do it's like a weird croissant thing or is a French restaurant on its in studio city, it's Ventura, and it's very very fancy, and I didn't know it existed, but their signature sandwiches, a gourmet version of the egg mcmuffin, and it's like seventeen dollars or something insane. But you lose. Absolutely. It's it's a place for Astles. And I went there, and I only could sit at the bar and even that had a wait. And then I ordered it. And it was unbelievably good. This is the best thing. I've. See they still. Oh. Delicious. You have everybody splurge on breakfast. Which is like an insane thing to do or you could Spurs breakfast brunch. But if you do it that's a that. That place is very because we've already talked about breakfast way too long. I'm amazed by an Mberi entertained by you walk into an establishment. You're getting some breakfast, right? You got some you've got some high aspirations watching their like sorry. This establishment doesn't serve any of those things it serves just cereal, but we have all the cereals. I mean what cereal? Do you? Choose dating. I popped into my head. Do you? Remember those? Yeah. Those are great. Like chunky things on and inside the whole of the OAS like grains, like a dirty booty. Dirty. Owes is one of my favorite cereals. Yeah. Love. Love great, Honey and oats. I just like big sugary Cheerios stuff. Great. I it's hard because I do love breakfast rules. I'm a between two raisin bran. Raisin bran reason when country also Honey bunches of oats with almonds is really like it for me. It will continuously be it for me. I don't know. I will ever since I was a kid. And I always remember when you get those giant boxes of cereal. I'm like, all your your brother and sister would be assholes and take all the good ones for sure like my brother would hoard them in his. Over in his late night room fucking the waffle crisp. He's got that free pills. Chris goes through stay off Christmas too. Stuff. Cinnamon toast crunch that were like little syrupy. Goodness, very maple. What's yours? What's mine? I think I'm going to be Rockin. Some usually everybody. Muesli was so good. It's got dates. It's that's your favorite series is even is. Even is a kid. That's I've ever heard of that. So tries insane. Pebbles or honeycomb is never a huge sugary cereal. Guys. Standard german. It's like a granola is basically what it is. It's grains, dry spell. He's nuts. M U E S L I. Scrape I grew up in the household that was very anti sugary cereals too. They wouldn't buy them treat for us. Yeah. What's that was a big thing for us to it was it was sugar cereals where huge street for only on vacation up. Up. My answer is just a low fat Kashi. I guess I'm trying to. I think no I used to cereal as desserts late at night and not typically for breakfast because I don't want some sweet in the morning, but then at night, I love some cinnamon toast crunch. And I love do look charms. And I do love apple cinnamon Cheerios. Yeah. Oh, and captain crunch berries. I don't mind all berries. But I prefer just regular. With berries. But I don't mind, but I just go for the. Can I share with you guys? Maybe shocking favorite of mine. Shocking. Grape nuts. Oh, i've. I love great damage them up and pop a little Honey off. Oh, wow. Need heat them up? Put some heat them up because it's like a warm delicious treat I for years, and this is the truth for until probably twenty. I thought they were actually greatness. Yeah. There's grapes. I was like this is crazy. I don't even know how they. Who thought they have zero flavor to they're just oats, crunchy grand? Did you make it real nice? Remember smack? Puffy the frog. Frog him. My favorite is the name brand like the off brand smarts. Yeah. Yeah. Is this spoon? I the thing about breakfast is that we all use our mouths to utilize the goodness with breakfast. And I don't want you about. Abou- with teeth which leaves us to candid everybody can't it is a company that is new and is helping people gained competence through accessible and affordable. Orthodontic care. Can't it makes the process of straightening your teeth convenient and easy by having the customer, take the process into their own hands and mouth, right? And even though the customers taking the process into their own hands candidate network of highly trained orthodontist review each and every case in directs the entire a liner plant. 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So just her smile. What happened? Here's this. I'm gonna look at the camera. Okay. For those listening to this podcast. And you can't see leash. She is smiling. Yes. But like somebody doesn't take a lot of photos. Yeah. Okay. So here's what happened. Very scared December twenty four th at nine thirty nine these messages and just the photos nothing else. And so on December twenty fifth at seven forty seven. A m I replied, thank you merry Christmas. And then one minute later I received text same to you. And alan. Woman fit. I know a female Allen. Let's go. Let's go with with. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just go with what I'm saying. Happy new year on December thirty first four twenty one PM we're picking up Bill and willa at six forty five and then to see and then I got another food. This is too much. This story doesn't like you. I don't like, hey, so don't let go. There's. More photos for those either don't know it's two older women one is very blurry. They did not know that they were getting their picture, and it was. Listen, I think that's Alan. And that is she thinks I m oh, really. We'll maybe. We'll okay. Well. Okay. So anyway, they are they are they seem to be very well to do Santa Barbara doing the entire their retirement. So your sure she had open toed shoes in over. She's fine. So then I get I get those photos, and then I get more photos that have already been sent the same. But this is a new. A new angle. This is her photos of her. Yes, she thinks that that is. I that's I think that's the case. Then on January first at ten thirty. I replied perfect. Thank you. Fucking. I love it. I love it. I do on Sunday when it comes down to plans. You gotta be like, all right. I don't wanna fuck with their plan suggests that he just replied with. Thank you. Here's the picture you asked for and then it's just a super close up. Macro shot of his Dong. I. I'm sorry. I think we have to recreate that photo with you in that outfit. No. This version. Criminal sketch. So from this is a this is the next one which is a beautiful house, and it says view from backyard house, they were about six different groups that open house just when we were there. So that's pretty cool. Are they saying Barbara market or the incentive? Yeah. They're doing fine. She's fine. He's fine. She needs to learn how to tech. So at this point. I'm I'm not going to keep listen at this point. I'm like, I'm not going to keep texting in lying just going to let it go. Let it go. So then on Monday bay. Are going to be a or baby by? Or maybe B B B, Arthur. Yeah. That name child will be named be your first child, and I are going, okay. Being I are whenever y'all. Be and I are going tomorrow night. Bob Moorefield is giving that person's giving us two tickets. A screen shot of the Santa Barbara theater, and they're gonna go see this frigging classical show. Violinist in Tuesday. John C Reilly Tuesday says we're going to see each tech Perlman in a little while see. And then I hear this today. This is to forty three this is about a few moments ago. This is the most recent tax. It's still happening. It's time Perlman like they are so wealthy. We are going to reply to this person here. Now as group we're gonna decide together what? Today to forty three PM, it's reassess. How's it going? I haven't talked to you lately. I'm just seeing patients in the office, doctor Dr. Now, it was a soup now. Mine I'm I'm in pretty deep. Yeah. You're has it. You're know what? I don't know how to get out of it. Right. Here's what you do. I think you really need to like I'm one for having fun with these types of things. I mean, these people hung out in person. Yeah. Smith, so maybe their family, but they're not close or maybe they're friends of family, and they're not that close. But it sounds like she'd like to be closer to her. It sounds like maybe she's trying to build a relationship with this person and not hearing much back from her and not being engaged actually probably making her feel like it's not working out. This is the only time rose. Oh, no. How do I? Yeah. I mean, I think. Leaving the country to go. Find yourself. Freesheet say, I appreciate everything you've done for me. But I need to go work on me for a now six years. You can also say, hey, how close would you consider us? Like, if I made a horrible terrible horrible mistake. Could I trust you with C? What you really have to do is is say, I'm sorry. I'm a comedian. And I was having all with this. And and like this. I'm not your friend Queen listen. I'm just saying I don't like I will say just I'm not. Well, you can't say, I'm not your friend. If he goes the comedian. Okay. I also want him to follow up with. However, I have a very popular podcast and bite. You. Bite you to come. Yeah. Guest on it that can talk about this journey. Yeah. I got I got away out. I think I'm gonna say new phone who this. No because that's ounds like you're being rude as the woman, I can say got new phone because otherwise I'm not gonna tell her say like I thought you were someone else. Why? And I guarantee she does not the technology understanding of technology is probably not robust in situation. I think he's not even just new phone who it is. Hey, I just got this phone number. Yesterday. I'm definitely gonna lie. But even that I want. Not going to that those other photos went to this exact talking because I just got this phone number today. Who are you is this? Yeah. Yeah. But going so the twenty four, but it's a new it's a new somebody else has personally to reach. Yeah. I mean, if this person was if I knew if you gave me any indication this person was an asshole. I'd be like let's fuck with them. I hold on. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to. I'm not trying to mess with her anymore. She's a doctor, maybe she's helping people. He's. Doctors. Yes. She could be one of those very popular known doctors that's killing. You just tech. Kills people. Hi, hi there. I just got this phone number. Are you a doctor that kills people? Are you one of those dogs that kills people? Okay. So I'm gonna say hi there. I just got this phone number. Not sure who this is. Yeah. Who this is? Best of luck. Those must say, I'm exiting. I'm. Trying to reach. I want to know the name. The thing is she's getting she's sending like I tin Arrese to this person. It's like they're trying Jake plans, and it's like there's nothing worse. Imagine being old and not understanding technology, really? Every day is going to be interesting. You set for free so free. You have a heart. I get it. There's just a why we're I would love to fuck with the with someone like that. And it's funny to a point. But it's like. She's trying to make. There's too many details where it's like visit. If I was texting someone and they were pretending back. Are you like I can't believe everybody hates me. You know, it's like constantly pitting. Man is hitting on me. Again, we're seen as objects. And so it's a wonderful divisive aggressive thing that we just have to feel like we're constantly in competition. So I get it. Update. I will I also have to leave soon. So right. Real quick Lee. Thanks for asking. My topic is. Asking side. It's okay. Oh, what'd you say? That's a quick reply. Good for hurting. She's hurting. She's hurting everybody. She's embarrassed. All right. It's gonna get your central photo. Pick Senate photo of you smiling. Sorry, Besset, Charlie. Start electric my relatives new number. He will find Charlie will find that. He did indeed enter the rug dome. He's going to realize that he's been texting someone. So we just discovered we thought it was char. I guess that makes sense. Because guys like, yeah. Maybe that was Charlie. There's any. Yeah. Maybe he was going to kill that woman. And now, we connected them. Now Charlie's like it was. The. From episodes. Now, Charlie Charlie. That John Wiley? Oh, yeah. Of course, Jon. Yes. Arja possession over the holidays to things landed in my hands. One was the mini SNES with all the cool like. It's awesome makes feel like giants. Also, very cute. It also makes you realize that I controversial statement coolest designed intendo entertainment system, ever, the the superintendents Nass. Yeah. The the buttons that you have to sign up and down. Sorry. The famicom. Sorry. You just crossed the line. So that's great. And then we had a fan send us a raspberry pi, which is essentially the same thing. But like steroids games in it for computer. It's like it's emulates ratings. Games Where's it going? I'm rushing through the this part of the story because it's not where I wanna land. But what's been cool is that I've been sitting with Jackson and Hayden kids and playing the games for my childhood in watching them, love them and hang out. And I'm I'm finding myself like Forrest Gump sitting next to his kid on the floor watching TV or. Fan the bed together and replaying. It's very fun. What do in mega man and star FOX and all this stuff? And I feel like we're making a little memory. And I it makes me feel good. And then it made me wonder what did me and my dad do that made me like it just stuck in my mind. And it's like when I think of my dad, what was our Forrest Gump moment together. So on I wanna ask you guys. You're Forrest Gump moments with your day, really sang cry- crying, the SaaS national started off, and it we could be more celebrate, Tori. But mine with my dad is that he would always. Doesn't matter. How tired he was? We would always play catch. We would go out to the road, and we would play catching would do it. I think as a bonding thing, but also is it was I was really into baseball. And he would support me and we would go to the baseball field, and he would pitch and I would hit for hours. So my Forrest Gump with my dad was it's very American and and stereotypical, but it was just playing catch. And we did that all the time. And that was my. He did it for all of us in Rhode ways. He didn't play video games with me. I don't have a forest Gump moment with my dad playing video games. I think he didn't want anything to do with them. But those my folks component moment. What's your what's your Forrest Gump moments with with them? Yeah. I mean, he's a bucking great dad and always did amazing ship for us. But I really don't think there was a moment where I did something where he was like, I'm proud of my son right now. Could be wind danger movies. I mean, we just I. Yeah. I mean, I think he I think we just had completely different interests forever. And I think we just never I mean, he loved boxing and soccer. And I never cared about any of that stuff. And so I don't know. I don't think we ever. I don't know. I mean, again, I had a great experience with music. Great, man. But wonder what if you asked him the same question if he has one? Yeah. Because he might have a thing that yet maybe very special for him. Maybe. I think Elliott's been texting him for the last three days. Yeah. Let's see here. Was gonna see classical. No. I actually was that's insane. I was just talking about this with Dell last night. My dad would check me out of school. All the time like randomly, check out and take your checking adventurous. He did that so much growing up. And it was like we just go on we'd go, and we'd do picnics we'd go to like a weird place, or we go a really great bakery. And we get like a giant bread bowl of soup in it or we'd like just go do random we'd play video games at like the pizza factory. Like he did that so much and I was telling that was insane. I don't know if he did that with my other siblings. Like, I don't know. But he doesn't like them. No also think it was truthfully that he really thought I was going die. Like, I really think that was a big part of it is. Probably. Yeah. You really that? I was going to die. But I think it was really that. He was just like, well, I don't know how much time I have with this kid. So there's no point in her being in school like he would I would just get a call and they'd be like the principal office. And I'd be like, okay. And then I'd like walk in there. And he'd be like, let's go and I'd be like, and he was like so duty was so. Later. He's thinking you're in trouble. And then it was always an adventure. And it was always like such a blast. And he would just be so much fun. And it was like he did that constantly. He was such an adventure king, and we'd just go, and we or like we find bugs in the park or do weird shit like that and kill them. Eat torture. Their legs off asses off. Sports moments are not gender specific. You could also have a Forrest grump moment with mom. You had those don't have any with my mom. I don't have any. Oh, no. I haven't once on. But those those like, we're deep connections. Did you have those like that was specifically you like me? And my dad does adventures were specifically me and him, and we'd just go and it would. I mean, my mom, and I was like the thrift stores together. And my Ma and she would like we would kind of. I mean, we we like going to thrift stores. I guess force come. Yeah. Mine I think was mostly related to going to the woods because my dad again. Like so many my memories are like at night dead of night like in a pickup truck and being link in the front seat and then him being in the driver's seat. And then we'd show, but the woods and there'd be this. It's just so much fun. And we would do like he would grab like we go like shining. I think is what it was called basic for deer tick like big flashlights and go out, and he'd drive, and we would stick our heads out the sun roof or other window and try to find try see deer at night, really reflections. And another one was a lot of skiing like water skiing and like knee boarding and like lake activities because a group on a league. And so my dad was like let's head out and we had like a bass boat and fishing boat. And so there's like all these, especially the fishing. I guess would be the big one like going out and the in super early in the morning, and like being out there and fishing and catching like, maybe two fish and then driving back and having breakfast always really cool, which makes me sound about. I guess Florida is a yes, you can get. Yes. So much fun. And he would like make sure we had stuff to do at the woods because he was like he knew those really kinda boring for kids who weren't gonna be shooting a lot of animals as a he would like make sure there was like four wheelers swings. And he just he basically decked these these woodsy areas out as with just like, the most fun crab. We could do including like TV in like food, and it was just like mayhem, and very fun and very very like. And then at night like campfires and play the guitar, and like all it's just so much fun, which all still kinda happens like still does all those things. So it's a very nice nice thing. Yeah. A lot of fun imagery, you got door dad, you got the outdoor adventure. And he got we ate a lot of food dad and also likes like my dad has very different interests. Like, it was never like I remember being I remember being at the woods doing special effects makeup on my friends in the woods while my dad was hunting. Like, it was like that was my hobby while he was out. And I'm like, how does he know your dad some assumptions about you? You know, we will be. Movies got. Yeah. That's that's mine. Good. I like that. I got moment. I don't know if that's going to catch on before Gumbo. Could SNES thing though, get it. It's awesome. I'm like I'm really trying to dig. My my family was wonderful and awesome. And we're great. But I just don't I can't connect with a moment being with your kids. You're going to be different. Oh, man. This is forty two. You're going to have a stone. No, it's four enough away that he's going to hundreds and have a moment. And then he's going to be like, this is the best thing fish person. I call after my Secta me, you're the first person. I call. I can I be the first person that happens. She's pregnant. Forrest Gump moment that movie. Him and his. They both just spending time together. Oh tilted. Yeah. Yeah. That's just a great movie. And so the best buy meccas? I want to go. Now, I think we can what if we did that Chanoine. Can we just go? Goodbye. And it just Ed by. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So like, we could end it there or we're still go. Let's end it there. Yeah.

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Men In Black II

Black Men Can't Jump

1:26:28 hr | 1 year ago

Men In Black II

"Model boys entertainment forever dog listeners I gas or Lester, and he is my co host of my brother sneaker here forever dog radio. And we are what is AO sneaker podcast. We talk about sneakers fashion Greek nuts. We do talk about grape nuts. We talk about the fashion industry. We talk about the sneaker industry. And we talk about how both of those things are influenced by none other than great nuts. You can catch new episodes here every single Friday wherever you listen to your podcast. We're talking about I tunes. We're talking about Stitcher. We're talking about Spotify. We're talking about at your mama's cousin's house, we're talking about at sure mama's brother's house. That's technically, just an uncle. So don't forget to listen to us is area and Yasser posts of my brother sneaker here on forever radio. Sequel makes has more to do with movie that came before the actual seating quality of the CBO. Now, what happens is sometimes sequel could have made more money didn't. And then the third sequel like check men in black three if that makes less it's because the second season was terrible. I just watched that it was on TV that do looks just like coup. Hey, I'm not about this Hemsworth Will Smith takeover. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I I'm not about that either. Like, I'm not about if it's really a thing where it's like the Hemsworth are actually just taking over. What Will Smith us to do? I'm not about that. I am about like I am about like Chris Hemsworth being the pri- the like main hotshot agent over in London in my be like about that. I didn't like independence day resurgence at all. I thought it was a terrible movie. And I thought that the way that they rewrote 'cause the Hemsworth brother in that like isn't even he's not even connected to the first movie. Right. Just a node random, dude. Maybe so mad nothing is. I I like I like Tessa Thompson. I like, Chris Hemsworth. But I just don't like the tone that movie has from the trailer with bill's very jokey in. It's like the cool thing about it was that we Will Smith was the funny thing in the movie, not the movie or something in a joke. Like Will Smith would be like a may good. Like, he would give you some jokes. Like this movie. This all out comedy a heavy action comedy. You know what I mean? And I'm like, this feels corny it feels. So I personally, and we're going to talk about it with the in regards to this movie. But for me, it's just there isn't a. The chemistry isn't there? Like the dynamic, isn't right? And also who so Tessa Thompson is supposed to be the Will Smith Will Smith, and she's not that. And she's never been that. But there's you know what I mean. It's like they switch their Chris Hemsworth has more of the Will Smith kind of energy of like pretending to be bigger than he actually is. But he's not. But like Tessa Thompson is has the like, oh, I'm new to this. But I'm really good at this. And therefore, I should be here. You know what I mean? So it's like, the dynamics are swapped, and it's weird. It doesn't make it. I don't know. What is bad to me? I think it's that weird thing where it's like, you know. Not we're, but we live in a world where we're trying to change gender, non gender dynamics. Whereas like if she was the one she was telling me Lee, and she had the train like Chris Hemsworth. And he was like the sat Lao Muffin not listening. I think it would have came off as like old, and we all need to see this kind of thing again. Whereas like, the reverse is, okay. Let's just make her be Will Smith, but what you probably need. It was a different woman to be. Yes him is just like they probably definitely wanted a woman to call them for short. The problem is we don't have that many women of color in comedies. You know? What I mean like technically she did Thor ragnarok, which people consider comedy. Yeah. But she wasn't. No. I mean you. Any part of that? Yeah. But it's like who else would other black women that is in her age range. You would have to Tiffany house, Tiffany haddish his older. But so what I'm not think you need it like a young. I think they were going for like a young. She was supposed to be young like thirties. I think you're looking for someone in their early thirties to start a franchise like Tiffany's in her forties. I mean, he could have just like the one that someone younger, I guess, but I don't know about ever. Notice to we see it when it comes out. Because of course, you know, they share billing which is great is just right, right? Is you know, also f Gary gray directed it. So I think it's going to be fun. At least he's a men in black two what? If Gary she just say carries, a black director his men in black two. He's men in black. He's made in black two. So you're saying wait now by the logical said, well, hey, wait logical, which has called it's called black bag canto Hollywood. He's talking about have Gary, and I'm like, yeah. Men in black two. So black people are in black, and we're in we're in. What does that mean? He's he's in black skid. Okay. Let's start the show. John James drop. Joe? The black men can't jump in Hollywood sit it let's put it on the last suit you'll ever wear again. The let you last one again. Spooks? Honestly, the score is great. That's a cool theme. I mean, that's the first one. Yeah. Man men in black the downfield. Just that was from. Live is funny. Here we go. Okay. For those of you listening for the first time. My name is Jonathan Bray lock. I'm drum million. And my name is James the third. Oh, wow. But we could hear you. And we knew we in a new generation now are we also also generation when I say my name out loud and people here it, okay? I'm down for that. Okay. So we're we're trying to. Shit. For those of you know, don't know. This is the film review podcasts, we review films of leading black actor. We talk about them in the context of race and diversity in Hollywood. All right. Today. We are reviewing the film men in black two. Yes. No reason. Waleed no reason. You started off route deliberately. International is coming out somewhat soon on our minds, you know, probably going to review that so review the end. And but but here's the thing. You gotta go to patriots. Listen to that came out with this by this because Tessa Thompson and Liam hymns were Chris Hemsworth. Bye bye, national probably review. This is black to you. This came out in two thousand two stars Will Smith stars Tommy Lee Jones back at it again for the sequel and resort. Donelson dawson. Also in it, this is the first time they worked together, they will work again in seven pounds. Now if men in black two domestic gross hundred ninety million it costs a hundred and forty million to make book domestically gross one hundred ninety not not the greatest. Four and two hundred fifty one for a combined worldwide of four hundred forty one million. So all right now that may that was actually less than men in black made the first minute black made more than the sequel. Really? I don't know that. Okay. I didn't realize that. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. Makes sense. Directo to write it is the same director. It is very Sonnenfeld. And he did he write it too. Yeah. Right. I think so ridden by hold on Lowell Cunningham. Oh, wait. That's, but that's the best the book writer, Robert, Gordon and bear, Gordon, berry Fanaroff. Oh. Right. The first movie. I can't remember, I guess it'd be. That was very some of my favorite movies love the Addams family. But other writers wrote the oh, Ed Solomon wrote the first one. Yeah. Adam love Addams family. He did both of those two right? Ted limiting snick it Bill and tat. Is that Get Shorty? This is we're talking about right? Yeah. At solomon. Yeah. Not based on film. No. It was great. So yeah, what else? Do we need to say about men in black two poorly reviewed views? And and I do I do have to say I was I was not talking about it in the cold open. We were talking about what the national looks like as a movie, but I liked men in black two one night. When I saw it as a kid in have liked it for a long time. And only just now learned but it was bad. Got a thirty nine percent rotten tomatoes. Do wanna go. Do you want to? Yeah. Go ahead. I mean. Yeah, I can keep going. I mean, like, please. I now that I know that people didn't like it. I can see why people didn't like it. Like when I first saw the movie, I hate it that they sort of just ret conned everything that happened in the first one. And I think a lot of the a lot of the criticism for the movie is like, it's slapstick. You know, the story is just sort of, you know, a lot of like rehashing of jokes from before, you know, it's brighter and sillier just doesn't have doesn't have the stakes of the first one end up. I one I have said before that I think it's one of will Smith's best performances in in a movie, I think he's like the like, very honest and very believable. And also, very funny. So like so on the rewatch. I mean, I I can see all that stuff. I'm just still I still see the movie very fun. And I remember hating armor hating that like he we couldn't see how cool he had now. Become and like see him be the leader. Like, it wasn't actually a continuation of the story. Like, it seemed like it was going to be by the end of the first minute black. So I remember not liking that as a kid. But I still think it's funny and I love Dawson. I do think that the funniest moments were all in the in those trailers when the movie came out, and like, so there isn't much to be the movie leaves a bit to be desired, but but still fun to me. Go. I remember seeing this movie. I remember being younger and being disappointed watching the movie a height. I remember watching it and being like. Only laughed to this day when I watched only two times. Okay. It's when. Will gets Tommy Lee Jones and tummy. Drought a car. I remember that. And he's used to drive that a bust. And he poise owed him busted, new hotness. Who do you like that one? And when he may flesh, they give through the tube. And he's like man used to learn that you'd be like flesh J, plus me like you could just tell that those are this little Will Smith is that I'm like, oh, this is great. But also, I think the problem for me was that the movie visually looks different where it lost gritty again. I think I think it's my problem with some of these commercial films, whereas like too much money. It's like this looks to polish and it's just like any minute by international can be maybe great. I don't know. But from the trailer it looks to silly it looks to play for. Whereas this one looks like that it built like that. It was willing to being jokey the whole time. It was bright. They really played up. The fact that they were aliens everywhere they can and make a real weird cameo. It felt so jokey. It didn't feel like there was any weight to it. Like, Laura Flynn. Boyle was not a good bag. John Knoxville was like, okay, we get it. You has a young audience. He was really big on jackass disappearance. You went chasing that it just didn't feel pop. It. Just fill commercial man, it just felt cheap. You know, what it was? The food this like fast food. It doesn't feel like when you go to a place for the first time. It was like, you know, a man a the first time he had a diplo lay burrito. You're like damn this fast food is real good. That was men in black one. All right. All right men in black two is when you go to McDonald's, right? And they got the new outside. And it's like oh mitt cafe. But he takes like it's still the same shitty. Mcdonald's. You know, what I mean just polish the little bit better hersher soul, but you should nine change the kind of. Doc. Oh belly. Our people to know how bad. No. Because it looked polished glaze supposed to be good. But it's not remember this. This may have the oh this is starting my disappointment in my man for a little bit. This may be the beginning. This is before you earn disappointed with wild west when it out. Oh, oh, my thing about I gave credit because I remember reading an interview with him and learning that the real guy in the TV show was white and he got to play him as a black day. And I was like all right. Okay. And also like you get you get like to me. It's like you get like three you get three. And all right. Well, while one he admitted it cool. He went back to the classic Minna by to this came out. I was like any like the song. That's I knew I was a mess where the song was weird. Right. Sounds like this number two baby. Right. We're on. We're on the road. Right. We even making left going shitty town. We're gonna left me right and going like we made it back about bad voice to where you like does. Okay. I liked Babbel's too. I thought the ending was too long. I was on the fence like I am terrified to wash. Right. I am only because I'm not gonna sit on that. I didn't like that boys. To was the first one for me came out within a year of each other. This was to me, and I was like this came out and then bad boys two came out after right, Babbo sukey mom. Yeah. I think this was the for because I think we talked about this when we reviewed wild wild west way back when I liked wild wild west when it came out. I don't know why I liked it a lot. I remember my cousin hating it. Remember him telling me, he was like the music video is better than the movie. And when he said that I was like how could you say that? I I was like I was offended. But I was also shocked. I was just like how could you possibly say that like the movie was so funny? It was so great. I loved it Will Smith was a cowboy that was so cool. Men in black two. I was so disappointed as movie because I think this is still true to this day men in black my favorite Will Smith movie. I like independence day lot enemy of the state is really good. I robot his great. I love I robot when it came out same here. Same here pursuit of happiness. Of course, we talked about how much we all love hitch. But men in black was like, this is my favorite Will Smith movie because. It's like it's like the the movie itself. I think is so good. Like, it's a great movie. The. Chemistry between him and Tommy Lee Jones is out of this world, the screenplay permenant black was so fun. Vincent enough Rio. Oh, isn't a bad Bagai? You know, it's it has that exact right? Balance of comedy like ten like action like tension. You know, there's a little mystery to it. It's cool. Men in black two, I think, and I was trying to really understand why I think the reason I didn't like it. When I first saw was because I thought it was stupid. I just that was it. I just remember thinking like this movie stupid identified. Johnny knoxville. Like, I didn't like them at all. I thought like the everything with him was so dumb. I thought Selena didn't make any sense as a as a villain because I was like so confused by like what she was in like house. He was able to take over the MIB headquarters like that like she literally just comes in and vines are coming out of her fingers. And then they're all they're all done. Like all the entire headquarters is wrapped up. I remember I remember as a kid thinking like that doesn't make any sense. I don't understand that. And then they defeat her by just shooting her with a gun. And I was like nobody else could do this like no one else like you have an entire headquarters full of like agents, not one person was able to take out a gun quick enough to shoot this person. I don't understand. The whole white thing didn't really make sense to me and Ryan's belt zero Dawson had a character. She didn't like, and and so I just remember. And then I remember like the thing with the ball Chinni. And I just remember being like this is so corny. So that said, I reached it. I still don't like it. But I will say this. When Tommy Lee Jones comes back and the two of them together there are moments in there was really great. And I was like laughing, and I was like, oh, this is what the movie was. And I think the reason that I don't like this movie. I think ultimately the reason I don't like this movie at there are script problems. I think and all the other stuff everything you mentioned is true. But I think ultimately is because we don't have enough of timely Jones and Will Smith just together like it was just too. It was like the whole beginning of this movie. I I don't need an I think is. Terrible. Also, you know, I'm gonna say some knows before you even start our suit hear me out in the minimum black one. It got cool yet. I got kind of great. And then you came back James like everything from any black one just went away where the women go there talk. We're all in this. They do they mentioned what her one line. She said that she said L wanted to go back to the more. I did her favor. Yeah. This is what the hill as I remember I remember like I used to like heavily follow. Like, I am db in like, which you know, what movies were in development and stuff at that time. And like she was attached to the movie until like three months before it came out like on, you know, on public record. And then it was like, oh, she's not in this. You know, she was like, you know, rumored because the money back because she asked for any amount of money or lying raise the raise. And they're like, no. And that's what happens a lot in Hollywood happen. All the time. I'm hoping that things like this will change. I just found out about the matrix, dude. What's his name Chong? Is just character. He was. There's tank in dotes think he's tank o the the dude who survived. Yeah, he survives. And the reason he isn't in the matrix sequels because he wanted he wanted more money to buy with the jurors. Yeah. What? Yeah. And it's messed up because he's so good in the matrix. Yeah. He's I mean, he was part of nominal in the way to see more from tank. I couldn't wait to see more from tank. Ironman too. Yeah. Our parents Howard has happened with Monique. It happens a lot with men and women. Yeah. Why? Mimika and women damn about this crabs hasn't movie anyway. But, but so this movie begins with the with the little did you like the beginning of this little white thing. Yeah. They're just explaining like the tales. I like that. They are like setting it up like it was like a twilight zone episode or or not even twilight zone even older than that. It was too. Pretty. He liked the callback. I remember as a kid liking the callback to that to that video. You know, the sort of like video of of info where you would find out something that was going on. That was weird that it up actually being true. But it was it was it was to polish and felt to like it felt two convenient to start with the video of that. Instead of like what happens in like, how do they don't they get history? They get history a little bit more organically in the first movie, and it just felt a little bit too convenient to start with that. I mean that I mean it was fine. I give it a going forward. But it just felt so force. And then the next is the bakery. Right. The opening scene is the bakery where the people orphan boil comes in. And like while she comes. Oh, yeah. No. Then it's like you've just see her ship like here. This was immediately the movie like killed the stakes because it shows a ship flying around literally blowing up planets by as now we don't understand why we never understand why that shit was literally destroying planets as it was like flying to earth. But it's it's like flying past planets and blowing them up in a cartoonish way to a cart in a completely cartoonish way. Where you're just like where it doesn't actually feel scary. Because you're just like why is it? There's no context for it. So you're just like this is weird. And then it completely undercuts any tension. Maybe that you could have had from it. Because it lands. And then we see that like a a dog comes, you know, and you're like, oh, the ship that we just all blowing up planet is only like you know, what like five six inches like like six seven inches long. And you're like, oh, okay. I it does nothing like we're all supposed to laugh at that. Like, I don't know. And then Selena comes out, and she's like just a vine creature and the vine sees like a magazine just lying on the ground sees, Victoria, secret toria secret model or in like just becomes her somehow. Embiid. She. Would is. She is she she's his plant. Yeah. She's a plant creature. She's a she's a she's a series of vines that can I guess change her shape color. Freakin? Learn anything and Robin. The last time we tried to see a woman do some place live. They try to mega super sexy and didn't give her any real bag story or any real mode of an a bump. They coulda washed moving was like, you know, what let's not the same exact thing. Here's the thing. I don't know how this is happening. But I'm gonna go ahead and defend Batman and Robin. A little bit was I think I think I think. I think poison I got more back story than sleep. Because here's a thing. At least point do Elliot poison Ivy. It was like she was like a scientist who like liked her plants then like somebody tried to kill her. And in this movie. Like what like why is she trying to get the light like we don't really plant and once the light, you know, and you never know they even do like, they even show us the scene that really happened. Like, we see we see cartoonish Lee in the in the in the TV show. Then we see an actual flashback supposed to have a little bit more stakes and be a little bit more grounded. But we still get no information sills is just like give me the light. And you're like, why do you want? Why are you bat? Like what who are you? What is the light? And what does it do? What does this do what what where your people, man? Where's your jailing? Are you here are you here as an ambassador of the other race? Or what is it? Goodness. This goes into just kills two aliens. Like, what's his name had had an actual motive? He said. He wanted to get off. Yeah. Wanted to get off earth. Right. And with the gallery the because he was trying to end the war, right? Start award word. He said war means more food for my family. Yeah. All right. Yeah. He's at ended this basic, but I get it. He's trying to say he's trying to put food on sale. I get it for his virtue. He was so creepy to come on go for over. Okay. Let's talk about the optic last movie like straight up. How'd you go from like, a dude who has a cockroach in human skin, who's like malting like like breaking out of it to a supermodel who the weird thing that she does she eats a lot. I mean, I'll I'll bet they got shit for how scary at girls, and they like they like you can come back. But you gotta gotta clean it up a little bit. It's got even the villains. I think what the villa. If you just think about what the villains do in each of the movies. They are it's it's a scary concept like she could turn into plants and the plants can strangle you and she can change her shape. And that's scary. And then in the third one it's like a dude that can shoot spikes. And has like weird spike is or whatever it is. Right. Like all of that is scary. But they have to show it in like, a bright a brighter way a less less gritty way than they did in the first one probably Edgar was so scary this game on two thousand two Noche eight Laura Flynn Boyle. I'm gonna do a pitch imagine with Angela Bassett. Right. Other starting now because I started watching American horror story, and she's like one of the people on the show. And she is fucking fantastic scary when she needs to be Kovin. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Unlike a magic somebody who could a woman who could be again, if they're going for beauty get beautiful also could be extremely threatening. But also cunning also can give you like some type of gravitas where like there's more going on behind is. You know what I mean? Like, oh, this this shit is crazy thing I've seen her do things with bad scripts like she was in his movie with Denzel when they were like in the future. Some unlike movies back, I think she's a cop or something. And then. I don't know what else haven't right virtue acidy virtuosity virtuosity movies while but my point is she elevate bass scripts so to me is like I don't know what they were going for. It was like it felt super commercial. You know what I mean? Rose Dawson when she pops up and she's in here. I'm like, oh, great. He's going to finally have like a real love interest. Because the woman in the first one they? It around it or some they hit us with the Star Wars force, waking you know, what I mean? Yeah. This is what the oh they get together. Then it's on not just France. Right. Right. You know what I think it happened? Yeah. Yeah. You know, why? I know. I know James, you know, what I'm talking about. You didn't get one. Set up to swirl the movie set up this woman. Do it didn't happen was going on Hollywood. I can't get this rule in the movie now can happen. All of a sudden it can happen in movies. Let's think about it in a movie, not a Netflix movie in a major studio pitcher movie theater. Ken this world, still happen and Zoe Saldana, Anna. Why do I know? No, focus. Sorry. Sorry. What we know? I meant the movie focused, but all right that came out like, I know for as much as we don't know what's happening. Like like, there isn't a lot of of weight to what's happening. But the thing about Will Smith is he was like, I'm gonna make sure this shit has weight to it. Like, this is right after this is right after Ali after Ali will did a string of movies where he was like, I'm almost cry and all of these movies, right? So there's there's a part when he's when he's trying to explain to Rosa Dawson when he knows he needs to neural is her like what happens and he's like trying to explain he's like his she's like tell me what's going on like like, I saw a man get evaporated and she had like she had plans for fingers like just tell me. I know what I saw you. Tell me what I'm supposed to believe. And then he like explains it. Okay. I'm a member of a secret organization that polices. Monitor's alien life on earth where the men in black. She's Selena, and she and she killed people. She's from this planet now. I don't know why should did it. But I promise you that. I'm a find out like he like literally, I don't know. Like like starts to cry wasn't in the movie, he was like, let me make sure almost crying this moment. And he does that. He proceeds to do that in bad boys two, and I robot these movies do not need to have any almost crime moments. But he was like almost got an Oscar. Let me make sure keep. All of the I'd never feel like if he's in depressed. I wish I kinda would've saw I liked the that potential. I wish we would like. I don't know if it opened maybe a law firm boy of his him steering families. You can never have or the movies too. Silly. Like every every they do jokes in almost every scene. Even that Lorcy. We think about you have the dog the the joke of the size of the ship. Then the dog goes, and then the plan goes and the dog was and you're like, okay. So he's supposed to laugh at that. And then she. And then just Amana park with a knife. Like, she literally turns into this into this model, like not two seconds after she turns into an underwear model. Men in a park with a knife. Just runs up behind during those. Taste good. He like licks her face. And it's been like then like Harry's are beyond the bushes, which is like you're making a rape giants like movie. And then she eats him. And then she comes out and she has a fat belly. And we're supposed to be again, they thought we were going to be laughing at this. And then she throws them up. And then immediately after this we have the whole worm seen with what's his face. You know, who I love who who used to play the tick and the old tick and Richard Burton, Robert richer Arkell calm. Not Richard Warburton economic. Yeah. He's a tick. And he was in venture Patrick Warburton. I just had to get upset myself. Yeah. You were saying, Richard. I was like that of the sound, right. And and so we have the toll thing where it's like again, this was purely made for joke. There's a flower sticking out of the subway a subway great, and they're like talking to it. And he liked grabs it, and he's like don't do that. And then it's it's huge worm. Where you're just like why why is there a little flower on this worm never explained whatever again just for joke. And then we do get some cool fund Will Smith moments that I think this was in the trailer. Like, you were saying James where he like flies through a subway window immediately gets up, and he's like everyone please move to the back. We got a bug in the electrical system. I said we have a. System. Chomps down. And he's like. Laughing in the trailer. And it was still funny in the movie. Yeah. But then this class. Classic props Smith perhaps. There is so what? No. But then just like this whole scene like Jeff this whole scene. Just ends. You know, basically ends with him being like. Home and neutralize my partner. Now, you know, it's like now. Win in the sequence in the first movie when Tommy Lee Jones has to realize his partner. It's a sad thing. It's like he has. He can't do it anymore. He can't he can't work the weapon like they've been working together for a long time. This is like this city. It gotta move. Noor allies, my idiot partner, you know. Felt like a right. Well, and it was and they play it up right later on in the movie with Nick cannon. We get the little part of like him like being like sorry sorry. And he starts to put on his glasses. And he's like, what are you doing? He's like, well, I don't want you Noor allies me, sir. And it's like the whole thing is like he just neural is he just kissed been constantly neuro lighting his partners because he thinks they're all terrible. Which fine. I get it. I get that's what they wanted to do. There was a part of me that was like man, I wonder what would have happened. If like Nick cannon was his actual partner. Like that would have been an interesting something, you know, my thing is like if he keeps New Orleans and people shouldn't be getting reprimanded by like shouldn't be like shit and be like, oh, you gotta stop doing. This thing. Does they do? They have a line about it. But they don't they don't make it matter. Because apparent because apparently he's the best agent that they haven't also don't they also don't go into that either. Which which would you was so frustrating to me because the movie ended with like him literally the last movie ended with him like changing things like like, it might be are not supposed to have. They're not supposed to have any identifiable marks. And he's like cool, but my suit going to be a little bit like I'm aware these kinds of glasses. Like, it's like he does stand out a little bit. And but we don't get into any of that. At all right engine is I think Will Smith in this movie is at a point that I think no other personal color actor has ever reached. These had the time. Whereas he's white man famous. You know, what I mean when I'm watching this movie and one he should not have made this movie to this movie is hedging bets on his charisma. Like the thing is the first half of the movie, the partner Braves talking about like doesn't that good is really the part will by himself. You know? I mean, no timely Jones is just we'll doing will stuff, which is cool. But the thing is out any type of weight, it feels like no one wanted to tell will either pull a back to grounded a little bit because they're like, no, man. He so cool fund is let them do thing. And it became oh. You can do a thing that maybe Tom Cruise does. Now. Maybe like Brad Pitt and doing were like, we're unquestioned. And I'm like, man, maybe someone should have really been directing, you know. Maybe someone should have been like a regatta like we gotta make this movie some type series or we won't have a movie, right? Yeah. Do you think that's on? It sounds like you're saying that there was too much of that from him specific. Quickly in the first half. Do you think that that's on him or like, the I think it's more on the the the writing of the movie or maybe the directing of the movie than it is on his then on his choice to do that. I guess is all three because to me is like, you know, like if all three of us got a script right now. Even if the same script, even it was all three Rita drastically different. Right. And it's like we'll play this first half for jokes like. Like for laughs now. Yes, buried, the director should have been like, hey, you know, we need to treat. This like is a real movie and like you'd have to. Be a little bit more serious. And also the writing should have been more serious. But at the end of the days like I'm not looking at the writer. You know, what I mean, I'm looking at Smith, and it sucks because as a performer, you some sounds we'll get the brunt of the film, even if you do a good job like people looking at you. And I think this movie is silly top. Because of how silly will is up top. I mean, the movie again is a silly. But we'll is equally silly at the top of this movie. Yeah. But I do I mean, I guess I I just feel like that's like what he was asked to do. And like if he wasn't doing that than this movie would have nothing like I would have nothing going for it. Because I think the first the first time I liked anything in the movie was will like in that subway scene. And then when he neural is is the people in the subway, and he was just like, this is the promise you New Yorkers, all you've seen everything. And you know, excuse me like that was that stuff was fun. And like like he was doing his thing. It was just like everything leading up to it. It was just like every they were. To make a joke out of every single thing. And they keep doing it in this movie. I remember I was gonna say I used to watch the men in black cartoon series. Yes. And I remember this movie was so such a disappointment. Because I thought that they would use some of the opportunities in the in the setup of this film to like make calls two cartoon series because they have this whole thing where the cartoon series. Like there were like villains in the cartoon series. And they could have them all like show up when she breaks everybody out of prison. Yeah. And instead they just have like this like really dumb scene where like do. Yeah. Like you. She breaks these guys out of prison and like they're just there. And like, they just like we're looking people, and like, but none of them are none of them seem worthy of like henchmen that like I mean, I guess they are just henchmen. But you know, what? I mean, like these are supposed to be the most dangerous people kind of in the galaxy that we're like trapped, you know, that like arrested or whatever. And yeah, we just get this. I mean, what why do we need timely Jones again? So the hosts the actual setup of this movie is like. You know longtime ago, these people came these these creatures aliens came to earth, and they were like you have to help us protect the light from this person. You know, Selena, whatever her name is she's she's trying. She's trying to steal the lion and kill us. And they're like, well, we can't do that. We don't, you know, we don't get caught up in those kinds of things. So we won't take it. But in the light actually did stay here. Then there was this weird time clock thing that's happening where it's like if the light is here. Yeah. On a certain time, then it will blow up the planet, which they didn't again. They didn't really explain like why what was the like what like it can only be here for twenty five years or some. Why like exactly I don't know? And then she comes back because JiJi Knoxville's character like finds out that it's still on earth. And the only person who knows where it is K because he he didn't tell him. I'd be like he hid himself. Basically, you know, again, I'm not on coming will. But because his black mic and Jemma Hollywood. This is the point where every black needs to be. Whereas like, you're making so many movies or so Honda man, you're doing shit you need to do. Ame is like I on paper, this movie make sense, the sequel to one of the biggest news you have ever done, but he did not need to make this movie like for like nothing. His car doesn't grow any in this movie his cart doesn't. He doesn't become the boss. He has to go get K again. You know, what I mean because he doesn't know something. It's. It's disappointing is located disappointing. Just if you are a fan of agent j you know, the only black person in here's Rosario Dawson, and we'll get her. She doesn't have anything to do. Like, I'm trying to get with her. And is like, yeah. Will take into that Pash up? Do you want some path which is? Yeah. Hug about her character like she had to play this character. Who is who was a moat who was like somewhat emotionless like, okay? So she cries when she sees her. You know, the person who is her boss die. We don't see that. She has any family. She doesn't talk about family or anything like that. When she's with. Jay Jay's talking to her. And like tells her all that stuff, and she doesn't really react to it. She basically is like, okay. Like, he liked tells her all this stuff, and he's like, okay? And then she's like, and then he's like looking at her like, okay. And then he's like, I'm sorry. I have to do this. And she's like you have to kill me. And he's like what? No, I'm not gonna kill you just like you're gonna white my memory. Okay. And then and then he's like, yeah. You're you're not going to know who I am. And she's like that must be hard. And he's like, yeah. It is har- and then because of that conversation, but she has this weird. Like, you really mean like, I don't even know what to call it. She has an understanding of every. Yeah. And I guess it's because she is the white. Yeah. I mean, like she she does say that I was talking about before. But she does say womb. We're kids our hearts tell us that something else is out there. And it probably has a lot more to do with the fact that she isn't a human being she is. A space alien or I guess or mixed because potentially Tommy Lee Jones is her father. But. But she has like a feeling of connectedness to something beyond her that they they really don't explore. I do like this scene. This actually doesn't feel as as weird as I think the direction that we're kind of going. I do think that it's on fortune it that after a scene like this. We don't get to explore more of who she is. So that we can. Yeah. It's not that. I didn't like the scene. It's just that. It's actually the biggest soon we get with her. And then we don't really get anything else. You know what? I mean. We don't. Yeah. Yeah. Basically becomes a damsel in distress at this scene on she is that and it's like, well, no like let's figure out who she is. Let's find out what the light is. Let's write this thing that you are setting up like actually, actually what if she's the light. Like does she have her own defense like 'cause she fight off like it rains because she said, wow. Like what like she tell us more stuff. Why what else? That I Tommy Lee Jones did deliver that line perfectly where he was like he was like it always seems to be raining when you're sad. And she's like a lot of people cry when it rains, and he's like, no it rains because you cry. Oh. Very cool. On also like wait what? But what does that mean? It means is some serious shit happen any. Hey, wait to it. Whereas like nothing else. I is my question. Maybe Auburn question. Do you think we start making movies? Do you think we're going to be a movie in realize while making it a bad movie? No one hundred because you know, because when you make their voices involved that like that definitely can ruin like thinking about just even thinking about will in general, right? We know that he. He like picks movies very meticulously, right? And we know that he will say I don't bang with that. If he does it. Right. We and and I would imagine that after coming out of of his Oscar win he was like that. But then also studios are going to be like, no, we don't like can it. Do this do that. And I feel like there are probably entirely too many voices moving this movie apart. Yeah, there's a lot of money of it's just so hard for me to talk about it. Because the first one was so good and also will was very Willie. I dunno like. Yeah. I mean, we get hit. We get the posts he goes to the post office to get k. And we have like a a fund scene where like ks like a postman who's like, you know, attention like who wrap this like we need like to get twine about bio like whatever is doing its K thing. But like as. Like postal worker. Okay. It's a way over the top ways. Silly. There's a little moment where like a little white girl is like trying to buy some Rugrats damps. And he's like, we don't have those. And then like Jay like picks her up, and he's just like he's like all right trying to save the world here. Like, you know. And then we get the thing in the back where he's talking to him. And then again, another weird dumb. Silly moment of like he starts talking to the other black guy in beep accusing. Yeah, it's biz markie, which is which is is that that's how they speak. Nells pretty. No is no it's not. He's an alien, but it's a black, dude. And every other person in there wasn't alien. None of the rest of them were black, but they had him. Start beep box into the only other black boot in this market. You get the racial implications. This I understand I hear what y'all saying chill. Kmart though you. You know about it. What? Silly silly made it so freaking silly like nothing is why watch it. But why am I watching this? You know what I mean? Like, nothing bad is actually going to happen. And no point musket of Laura Flynn Boyle, and no point of mice get Johnny Knoxville. And nobody my skin is due but the testicle face like what like what is the point like Rosario Dawson, never fully. She was actually endangering his entire movie to me. You'll see the deleted scenes of him coming up with different names for him. All different all the deleted scenes bloopers where he just he's coach throat. He's a ball tinian. He's a ball face. You know, like it just kept coming up with different scored a man. That's my thing is it felt an again, I love some improv just felt like, you know, what it was this fellow at home in will have you ever. We have become friends. Forgive me for them about to say this. This felt like wills chance to do Beverly Hills cop. Whereas like the ability hills cop when net good Eddie Murphy came in murdered it. I've liked the script for minute black to wouldn't that good? They wanted Will Smith to come in and murder, and he didn't it. Beverly Hills cop two more than the men in black two hundred percent. To damage just as good as the first one depending on which way, you saw I well to dress point right to dress point like. Beverly Hills cop two is also directed by Tony Scott and his significantly darker than Beverly Hills cop one is like like Beverly Beverly Hills was supposed to be like the clean pristine place. And then like Bellas to starts your in a smokey police office like everything's dark and orange and you're like why that's a complete depart. They went the opposite way. They went jargon instead of going lighter. But like, but I don't think you can I don't think you can blame will solely though. Because like if to compare the two that you're doing Girard. It's like Beverly Hills was Beverly Hills cop was like an action script that then a comedian winning was like, but also these jokes though, and but what happened with minute black to was like, it was a comedic script. And they were like, and they were like will also go off and he did. And so now it just feels like too much, right? Like, that's what you're saying. Like, yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. It was I mean. God so jarring. But yeah, the whole I mean, Johnny Knoxville whole character is supposed to be comedic relief in a movie that is a comedy that is like in a movie that's for the written. It's like why did you have a comedic relief character? Every character is a comedic relief. Like, the main person we like we like because of how funny he is. The reason we liked men in black is because he's enters into an organization where everyone is serious except for him. Yeah. And then two percent. And then all of a sudden to becomes literally everyone is a joke except for Tommy Lee Jones, like he's the only one who's not a joke. There's a moment in men in black two. We're Zad agents z leaps into the air and starts doing like RoH kicks somersaulting roast too. So weird looking it's that thing of like me noticing that that will almost cries in that one. Scene. Like, I think the reason that stands out is because I actually think throughout the movie will is trying to ground moments that like the actual scene. Like, it's like, you can't be that serious because everything around you is is clowning and hokey like, and so it it just it feels weird like it feels like a weird like they're two movies happening at the same time. And it doesn't even happen enough because he doesn't there aren't even enough of those serious moments. Like think about the whole scene with Tony salute right in the first movie, the reason that scene works. So well is because we as an audience, we don't know, like, we know aliens exist, right? And but we don't know who the Elliot's are whatever. And we're kind of like in wills POV where he doesn't know anything. And I think this is before he even really understands aliens are real I right? He doesn't shoot him. So it's no. So he knows Tony Salukis as a NYPD officer, and he's trying to and then he's like, yeah. Man. This dude K this. This guy is crazy, man. You got to you gotta do it. He's like you gotta listen to him. He's going to do it. He's going to do it. And then K does blow his head off and j immediately points the gun at K, and he's like Jok the weapon like you. Don't like it takes all that serious. And then and then Tony sloops head grows back, and he's like what's happening, and how much that's things or whatever all of that was committed all of that was tension. It wasn't played like Tony sloops. Like what happens in this movie will because we already know it. They're like what the potentials already gone. So let's just like play up the fact that they know each other and Tony super just like I mean, you're gonna blow my head off or your go by head off. And my head's gonna get blown off and both magnum about and then take it's and it's like, none of it matters. Like, it's not funny. It's like everything's a joke. Like, even the. Dog the dog was funny and the first men in black movie again because we didn't know it was going to speak. And then it starts speaking. Really? Oh, what the hell, you know? And this movie, it's like, yeah. It's cute to see like the dog walking in like a suit. Love singing. I will survive loved that. No. No, no. It was just so many moments of him just like all of these jokes. Like that one moment where he's walking and like a another random agent like laughs at him. And he's like he was like got one got kids you want them. And then like it's offscreen and we hear like, oh, by polls or something like that. I hated that part. But here's why I will survive was funny. Let me just okay. Please. Because it was in the trailer. And so I was almost positive. It wasn't going to be funny in the movie it also is insane and deliberately slapstick, right? But because in the trailer all we heard was him singing it, and then he goes Frank I needed to be quiet, and he's like got it. And then he just starts humming. When he comes. I will survi- it like slowly comes in. Looks like the dog is humming. I will survive. Okay. You can't tell me that a dog humming. Isn't james. Humming. Look, I'm just repeating what happened in the movie definitely saw and don't like this part. But I mean. Every time. I hate one of these movies, and I'm like who likes this shit. I hear Jay, Mike. You know what I get it? I get it. I wanted to do this. I wanted to do this movie. I spent my whole life thinking this movie was funny, not liking certain things like not liking not liking them exploring certain things from the first movie. But then, but I'm only I only recently learned that like not only did I love it, and it and it didn't do very well. But most people didn't like like, I didn't know that. That was the key. I didn't know that was the case until now. So I'm enjoying talking about this. And honestly learning like comparing what makes men in black one so funny, and what makes this make so many of the jokes in this not land. It's I mean, it's a nice thing to look at from a comedy standpoint. Especially one other good line. I also think Will Smith added it was when the when the car drives up and the the white dude like sucks into the steering wheel. Tommy Lee, Tommy Lee Jones goes does that do they have that in every model, and he goes? Actually came with the black, dude. But he's getting pulled in in the DVD, Jerry. Barry Sonnenfeld goes base on goes this line would been very funny. If it wasn't every trailer and commercial that ever existed. Like he was like so mad that it was in every TV spot. It like it killed the screw him. It's the reason it was at every TV spies because there are so few funny lines in this movie. They're trying to sell his garbage. Like Dobie mad at the people who made the trailer together. You're you're you're twenty. He's a trash Jim joke. You like, well, why did they play the gym good? Also that joke is real funny is he's come with a black like that. Oh, wait. Wait. The other line. I truly like legitimately lap. That was at the end where will open up, and the creatures are inside of his lockers chanting, Jay. And then immediately close second goes. Like death serious. Like, you're watching put them rats. I thought those so buddy his delivery of that line was good. There were moment. I'm telling you there moments where Wilson with mailing these lines. And I was just like like either like those were his feel like. Well, just being like let me let me let me do it. I got to do the movie real, you know, like the line that you call it a James like is like a very like a writer definitely wrote that, but we'll sold it. You know what percent one hundred now it's cheesy and dumb. But really the only reason it works because he goes again, and then he walks like he's gonna say something else. He started to say. If you've ever were again, he's the last and then he walks. He's like why did I do that? He's mad at himself with a corny miss the line, which is why it works. But the light itself is like, it's an IRO. Yeah. You know, like him like taken out the noise occur. He's like you love this gun. You know, and you're just like all right plant, it, basically, I think the thing I don't like about this movie is that it doesn't build off of the I it just references. The ref not not only reference it. But it goes also fuck everything that you thought was gro everything that you thought was growth or good about the first one. We're not we're not gonna do any of that. Yeah. It was a very very weird movie. But I mean. I'm trying to think about even right now. Even even when it gets in like, the the the battle. How did he the shooter? It's just so anticlimactic this whole movie because the so you have like some cool things where oh sorry. The this is the I just remember the only other line. I like this sounds like there's one other one that Will Smith. I thought was really funny, and it's this scene where they go back to the pizza shop, and and he has like the picture, and he puts the picture there. And we'll like you let yourself clues and Jones is like a like a appear so whatever right and then wills like. Okay. Hold on a second. So you do this, and you pointing over here and. Jones like is like Jay. And he's like segment here, we go. So we got it over. And he does the pizza boxes. A nobody ever said that pizza like this. Okay. Over here. Let's just like the keys in the corner. I thought that was funny like a little moment. Like the way it reminded me of the old movie of will like having the bravado, and like and kind of being smart because he was right about the pointing it was just that it was just pointing one place, and it was already over. But he like saw another thing and he was like trying to be like outsmarting himself like where? Know was of like, why didn't the picture actually point? Why did the fix? Why did the fix such a week instead of just pointed directly to wear was supposed to all right? Yeah. And so so, yeah, they get the keys they go to the locker. They get the watch. You know, they watch has the countdown. He re here remembers away. It's the girl with the bracelet. And they go there. They get the to get the bracelet. But somehow serene fines the the pug and heat. You know, they know where he's go where she's going, and they cut all the worms up things. And then you get the line pull yourselves together. Great, and they arm themselves with the with the weapons that they get from that white people's home dislike looking at them. And then the one that did like is when he has to fight the do that the end he turns into a bunch of little versions of the little little flying saucers, right? Yeah. They're basically little he's a bunch of flying one moment, which is very slapstick distance left the whole movie, but we'll is hold on one. Like the last one, and I found explodes and he falls onto those tubes tubes and is just a beat to low. Yeah. It's very funny is so funny founds happening. It's like fifteen seconds. I remember in the theater, I was like cry laughing when I saw it when I first saw it like ham like not getting out of that thing. And this is after I've seen a movie this is this is like the movies almost over. There's maybe ten fifteen minutes left of a movie that I've enjoyed wildly right? Like, I've wildly enjoyed. And then just. Right. I really like once I that they were cutting the end of men in black one. I was once I got over that. I was like, yes, moose great. And then him being stuck in. That thing was I remember tears coming down my eyes in two thousand two it was just so funny. Great. And then. Yeah. And what have been a lot? Here's my thing is it would have been it would have hit a lot harder. If the rest of the movie wasn't so. Yes, dumb. It wasn't. So silly for no reason like they forced jokes in where they didn't need to be. It's like don't put jokes in here. Build tension, the build like the stakes of the movie so that when the jokes come they're funny. The movie was real. All of those things super like every every villain gets beat like like, it's the easiest thing in the world. Like, you have a robot that like looked like a trash can and then turns into a bunch of machine guns. And then after it shoots the first time, I guess isn't able to shoot anymore. Or like after it does that don't they like stay shoot it up like they shoot at it. Yeah. Yeah. And then like they go over, and then it just it just stroz into the elevator. And Kate just like like somersaults out and throws a bomb in there. And then that's done. Also is almost like, and then and then you know, Jay pizzas. I did. Like, I did like even though actually I don't it didn't land even the second time watching it. It's still wasn't funny. The idea of it was funny. The idea of him being like that's how I fight, you know, and she was like you on your back. Like, he's like that's how I. Like, it was funny. But it wasn't. I wasn't laugh out loud. And again, I just think it was just such a silly thing. And the fight scene itself was silly. You know, what I mean like, I don't know. And then I think how they defeated her was. So the ending to the first one is so epic do like like Jay had the noisy. Cricket the entire movie right time. We had to know his cricket in. He found is one of the big guns in their shooting. Literally one of the saucers at the world fair today still exist this movie ins with them. Shoot her. Yeah. Just go up to the man. She comes. She comes in the form of the worm. But I guess she's killed that worm like RIP. Jeff Jeff said, all right P, Jeff. He's dead. And also like the other thing that was great about the ending of the first men in black was like there's a jump scare like you, actually, it's it's there's so much actual tension at the end of linen black that he see your able to to feel like oh, good. I'm so glad that that's done. No. It's not you know, like you like you actually expand that. Whereas this one is like can we just is it over can we get to the next bit? Really does feel that way. They're like it's like, she's they're they're just firing the gun adder Jays like us a bigger gun. Like, he's like just they're like like punch in the vines or whatever the dump stuff is they finally get her into the thing. She's going up the vine start flying. I don't know. How do you know how they can find lie? She just grew really big. Yeah. The air. What she flying? Even I don't even know. Okay. Is your bad? She's fine. They shooter and then when they destroy her fireworks. Okay. And then I don't know where the lights go in. I guess. Put her in a ship and just center low as off base was like all right? And she was real cool with it. She was just like, and then she starts crying, and it starts raining. That happens twice. I was just like this isn't a callback. Because it's not a thing. Like, you haven't really explained it. It was nothing. It was it was really. Doesn't like it. It's not doing anything for us. And then and then it's over, and then we get the locker thing because they're like, hey, remember when in the first men in black movie with the marbles like let's do the same thing again with the locker locker shit was done. It made a lot of why you put these. It was worthless. The alternate ending was the alternate ending was. Actually used to have the DVD on have anymore. But the alternate ending was I I can tell you how to get to tell you how to get tour. I know you miss her get in the spaceship, and then we get into the spaceship, and then the spaceship actually shrank him, and then he woke up in the locker with the with the little guys that was that was the original ending. Did it they they did film? You can watch it. It's in the deleted scenes are alternate endings, or whatever of the of the DVD, and then he's like get me out of here, or no, I think he just looks. And he sees it and then K close the door something. I don't remember. It's been a long time. That's in that. But. The thing. My this movie is I want to the Hollywood about is that we gotta do something with these Alie women characters in the movie because Rosario Dawson at moves when we came out one o-2 of throw to who was it like four zero five is when Cincinnati came out and like she had to play in this. My thing is like this new office to against city has prompted certain nuances to some of the women is like she plays like headed the prostitute. So whatever looks people has their own backstory, nothing as you hit this movie. And this was doing the air of like that many pixie girl, she has the manic pixie girl haircut in this movie. She liked her face the whole time. She just like, yeah. Like, the whole thing, and I'm like wide eyed is something about that so bothering because it's like gear that exists. But that is only like a male fantasy thing is like the real pretty drew a next door like who can help you understand opened up doors other shit. Without having any type of urgency herself. And to me watching the super big budget movie. And seeing like, oh, we got Dawson. She came over. He got game. We should've imposing Cam cabinet review. Anybody came up. He I game is like she can act like this girl. She was in kids if she got her start and kiss this girl connect and get regulated her to what Luke doa at the home. I Will Smith like a waste a waste of talent. And this summer blockbuster, and we do that nonstop. I mean, it's just frustrating because I'm thinking about this movie in the first when it felt like at least in the first one that will have more urgency than resolve your Dawson head. Because. Yeah. Because I felt important part. And I feel like is something about again, it's not Will Smith. I'm not saying that. But if I look back at Babbel's light teal have more important than Dawson. If I look at like our robot. What's her name? The scientists the white lady in have more urgency than then freaking. It's like is this weird. And I'm trying to think is it is a women or it a women of color thing. But something's happening where is actively happening, and you can actively pointed out with women of color in particular is this. Like is a so long. It was done fixing anything, and it's like we're still talking about it. And it's like. Yeah. Reserved. She was doing so many things to she was in the event of Nash the same year. She's in the movie twenty fifth hour, where's her lead? Where's early movie? I mean, seven pounds. I don't know. Like, no, I like the disovery like, where's her Lee? Susan rent, of course in two thousand five play Mimi. Where was her Lee clerks to Natalie love inches again? Well, she ever lead lead. I mean, that's my point. Is you never trying to find out? I don't know seven pounds is like I think that closes right? This what eight. Yeah. Definitely moment leading that. If anything come on man like she's better than that. And we keep doing this. I keep thinking about. Women of color leading films in in now is not even about Oscar worthy movies. Like, how often do we see women of color lead a movie like period, I was looking to I was on the plane heading here the only movie on the planet. They offer it with women leading it was widows, and that's out of not just a new releases that's out of the classics out of the Disney that's out of the romance movies. They didn't have one romance movie that start a personal colored lead inside guys twin I haven't seen this movie crystal. It was an indie directed by William H Macy. But she is the tischler crystal of this guy, Chris. Yeah. Definitely never heard of that. But it was a couple years ago too long even me so. Even LEGO Batman. She's love inches. And she's probably eleven or has eleven interest in the movie. And of course, she was in all the marvel TV show. Right class. I love interest wonder as a weird love interest like fixer upper help berthli daredevil iron fist, and Luke cage. All right. Well, we did that stamp. Oh, james. Yes. No, no. I Don I don't have anything to say about this. What what do you want to do? I didn't say I had anything. I have nothing to say. I'm again, like I said, I don't do bits anymore. I don't talk about. I don't talk about Hancock or anything anymore. I don't I don't really retire. You're, but you would you would wanna I don't wanna I don't know because I'm not as I don't know enough about handcock to do a bit about it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if it's good anymore. You know, or if it was ever good or I mean, do you guys have any thoughts about that? Like what he's like, do you think that Hancocks? Are you do it for you? Are you are you rebirthing your bit? No. I don't have what are you talking about? I don't do bits anymore. Like, I know Hancock is good. Like is it good? Like is asking us if Hancock because good movie. I'm no, I'm telling you that. I don't do the bitney more because I don't know of Hancock is good like, and you're not even you aren't even asking that quote. You're not even answering that question for me. So what question is Hancock? Good. God. So in this. 'cause we review films based on how much we liked him. Whether or not they help the cause more leaning black actors in Hollywood thinking fully helped the 'cause we give it a black fist think it's somewhat helped. 'cause we give it a white palm everything, man. This really didn't help the cause we don't give it anything guys ready. Yup. Yup. Three here we go. One. To my eyes open for this Genton Tinton three. All right. The polite. We got to wipe palms here and a third light in LA where you white palms. I'll go first I gave it away palm. I wanted to give it nothing, but Will Smith and not ever do that. 'cause that's disrespectful. The best. You could do we all hope to be in a position where you can just make moves you wanna make maybe either this helped make seven pounds paycheck. Like who knows what he did this for maybe, you know? Yeah. Like, I think this was I think he he has said during this time his career he just wanted to make the biggest movies in the world. He wanted to be the number one movie star one make the biggest blockbuster, man. Well, you know, he did that he did that fall. This failed. But yeah, yeah. I mean, but you know, what maze monies? I guess my thing is I just wish it would have been better. But also, I'm this is we've had opportunity to to do something like this where I felt like again, we haven't seen another by person have a shot at making this meeting blockbusters and also no offense to him this many bombs and still exists. Like, I mean, like he's made a lot recently. And it's like, I'm still I'm still going to watch a Latin. I'm still going to watch that movie when he fights yourself the trail for the younger hip. The looks terrible. I'm like watch. It is Anglian has gotta be decent. So again, noticing that movie. His lead even understand not romantically linked maybe Li woman in the movie minute color. So. Somewhat wars moved on. We have a lean women in his movies like that of color jaylo. What about rose area? Come. Oh, man. She and in this movie real what about seven parents, then by these pails break. Sure, nobody willing. Made a little bit of money shut up with. Hey, listen. Okay. If you bring up three movies out of twenty what about enemy of the state shut up. He made like twenty more about bad, boys. Two you really? Well, take it back. I'll take that. Want to go? Burma's? Gave it a pom pom. Basically just because like. You know, I do think that this movie was a step back power wise for his character. His character took a step back. And I didn't like that rose Dawson not having much of a character is also not very much not a step forward for the cause. But you know, it can. Also was that is at the other. Yeah. A little cameo when it. But you know, but like it's like and the movie did make some money, but it didn't make as much as the first men in black and. And I think that like, you know, will was hesitant at this time to make like original movie. So he just kept returning to. Men in black and returning a bat, boys. And he's continuing to do that. And you know, I just think that like he can branch out a CANDU more. He he he is bigger than that. But I know that he's the nervous and feels some type of way about it. So, but I couldn't give it a fist even though. Like, I said like I had been saying like I did very much. Enjoy this movie coming up, but has some issues. Yeah. I mean, I give it upon because mostly because this really didn't help out any. I don't think it really even helped out Will Smith that much men in black three came and gave Josh Berlin a big role. But it didn't give another person of color a big row, which was super disappointing. You know, Nick cannon was like barely in. This cage was number three. Yeah. Locators he was but he wasn't as big of a role as Josh Brolin was. Clement or Jemaine Clement or Emma Thompson, even I guess, maybe he was is bigger robes, Emma Thompson, I don't know. But not as young and Thomson. So like. Yeah. And I don't and there was no other real people of color in this movie, either members area when Rosario unfortunately had never really was able to become a lead lead. And I think that's just because of how Hollywood is treating women and particularly women of color in this particular time, period still. Yeah. So it's kind of disappointing on that. And but it was Will Smith gave us another. You know, he's the Franch. He's becomes a I think this is this was his first sequel, right? So you know, he starts to build these franchises, which is cool. Yeah. That's all right. Do we think we think Babbel's forever? It's not going to be bad that can't be bad. You know what I mean? I don't think it's going to be great. But I don't think it's going to be bad. It's not going to be like men in black international. Brian. You know what I mean? But I also I mean, again, I'm in the minority of people that didn't enjoy bad, boys. Two all that much. So I'm nervous. I'm nervous. So you might not like it nervous. It's definitely not going to be great. No saw. All right. Well, thank you out. What's wheels movie guys liked? They don't do this on the the last movie that I liked I liked him. Well, I actually we already talked about this, and I didn't. And I I kinda shaded him suicides quacks because he didn't go. He didn't go dark enough hits come out to. Two thousand five. I'm not saying that's the last time. No. Yeah. Pursued avid is. Again, just answered the question before like is Hancock good. That's two thousand eight. You know what I'm talking about? I am legend y'all like all right? Two thousand seven habits robot. I robot is earlier than every movie that we just. You know, what though a land last going to be the one? Jim. And I man I think that might be the. Aside side might be fun. Right. You didn't like bright. Nobody like bright, man. Everybody liked it. Who liked bright? Yeah. We all watched it. Damn in what happened, man. Look he's still making. Making those bad boys for life is coming out. I'm seeing opening night. Like, it's don't like we CU we cove. I'm you know, what I love Instagram. How about that? Grant is the most fire Instagram day. We goes fun. Here's a very he interviewed gal who. Sprints on it too. Yeah. Cooling cussin'. Cussin' berry. No is your last favorite Clara beauty God. When was your favorite rate? Wayne answer the question. Let it flounder. More than you guys did. Yeah. 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The Definitive Men In Black Rewatch, Respect Amphibians 4.27.20

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All the cancel. No it's a weird thing. I have a few friends getting married this year and like I remember when I had a friend who has a how to wedding that was supposed to be in April and when I hit their like I think we're GONNA have to. Do it I might. Call Yeah I would say yes. There was a wedding that took place where they put. They still did it, but they socially distanced, and guests couldn't go, so they had like cardboard people in the audience. It was real weird. That looks like. A demolition man, there's a lot of like like screens people that don't around and talk to you and stuff. About that? You know it would be fun because like you could the till death. Do you part thing? Would you know if you actually have the wedding? It's pretty quick. Commitment There Oh and the headline for it even says amid corona viral. Why would you do the cutouts? You're not fooling anyone. Who are the cutouts four? I'm looking at this photo. You just sent Jamie and it's truly like you were trying to pretend. You're trying to deceive burglars. Who Were Casing Your House that? We're having a party and it's not just Michael Jordan on a train track, and it's look like they would have had to have done that themselves. I think if you're going to do it, do it all the way painting some faces you know. Then go into a shooting drill where they had to like. Hang out which guests. Right like the. Shoe. Yeah tell us about this dime grouping in the center mass of this out Bradley. I'd guy was gonNA. Actually oppose this marriage. They wrote out a whole. It's like what is this? Although I would see someone who put in that much time where they had cut outs and a whole narrative that was going to play out between just the two of them with no odd yes. I, I respect that I hope I hope he's still punched. His father-in-law's cut out after. I opened it up. It would be gentler. Plant, ex-boyfriend like cardboard cutouts. How dare you just throwing wine glasses? That card or Whatever and you could tell your husband like listen. He doesn't object, but he's simmering the whole time. Face a little extra. Red. Angle of those eyebrows lines. I've come all the way around. This is a good idea. Yeah, I. Just start doing this in my own, house. I heard it another doll online. Guys, it's over. I wonder if they made like any of the. Too Drunk in the cutout like like. That's laps over in their seat. Layers been going through it. Is. This is normally the time. When we look forward at the news, we're covering, but for the most part we're just going to be talking about men in black. which is all the news you need? That is the movie we watched over the weekend. You watched over the weekend, so it's time to talk about that eventually. If we have time, we might also talk about Disney and libertarian economist. Really stepped in it. There's predictions for the corona virus. But first brand new. We like to ask our guests. What is something from your search history? That is revealing about who you are. I've been going down a real whole on this artist from the seventies named a Rowena Morrill M. O. R., R. I. L. L.. She did a lot of like fantasy. SCIFI covers. She's like the only I watched Mandy. Recently and like the art from that movie is based a lot on her work so I've just been like looking at a lot like. Babes, fighting dragons, and that's how I'm getting through quarantine. Yeah now that I look at her work on like this is the cover of every fantasy book. I ever looked at in a library. Almost yeah, she's she's so cool and like Abu. I'll just spend like. I don't know an hour or two big. How what if this was what the world looked like? This. This is my break. You're like what if I threw this spear minicars I. Yeah, exactly isn't. This is beautiful is so cool. Yeah, her stuff is really is really really fun. She she's like. I. Don't know about her because there just isn't that much written about her, but I did find out she was completely. Self taught, and she's like one of the. She was the only woman in this space in the seventy s at all. She kind of like a finalist randy. I'm ready to. Consider it done on a start. I'm starting fifteen podcasters. Thing I am sick of the sound of my own voice. And, she did illustrate some like she illustrated the cover for sand. Kings which I think we're all familiar with. I'd actually never heard of it and That is such a very specific s that that like everybody is Jackson all the women are in bikinis and. Yeah just. Fight it also. METALLICA used it for their power metal demo tape. Is, on, the power metal demo. I feels like almost like I hate that to hear that she's self taught because I love. The story were her. In Lisa Frank went to the same art school. Were there. They were on the same trajectory and she's like I'm going this way, and she's like and I'm going that way. At least story is like one of the best like business stories of all fucking time. I want release a frankly. She Oh my God. There's a whole bill expose about it like five or six years ago. It's like a cocaine fueled company. She had this trash husband who like. Her with her like second in command, and then Lisa Frank was like I'm out I'm moving to my pink palace like whatever I'm. And then her husband took over the company, and just like always like turned the the. Freezing in the building. It would be like forty degrees in the or however cold. It was he'd be on cocaine stomping around screaming at people drawing pandas for like years in Arizona. Of course is that's. Zona Field Arizona tripping. cocaine-fuelled warehouse drawing pandas. That's Arizona. DOCU series. No, I want to see that it's an. It was like an incredible one off piece. That is like it's fucking time. It's called inside the Rainbow Gulag, it came out in twenty three. So He. Hasn't really been involved with her like she created the aesthetic, and then her husband and cocaine have been just recreating it ever since. No, she has since gotten divorced from the husband, and the husband has started some like t shirt company so I think she might be back involved in. That's why there's Lisa Frank stuff and like urban outfitters. Now she was low deal. I'm like what's going on. She has two sons okay, yeah Hunter Green and Forest Green. Her Son Forest Green who is the one who's like running her instagram account? Really, that's why the Lisa Frank. This is like an article from L.. Dot Com from last summer, but yeah hearst, her twenty year old son at the time who goes to UCLA, is basically been like talking like Miley Cyrus dip low through the Lisa Frank Account and just basically like Yo. The brands relevant mom like just let me fucking talk on behalf of it. So, many sons getting involved with these brands. Sons are because like her husband sucked, but I'm glad that the sons are like carrying the try, but then also if you look her her whole life. She got her business started by stealing art from indigenous artists, so she's also trash. Culture is the happy killer whale from a WANNA know. Who? Be. Who should I be crediting instead? She was like her early work was all stolen, and then she made all the money that she wanted her. Company is a whole thing. It's like how barefoot contessa built on dark money put. You're like You can't think too hard about it. Gotcha. What is something you think is underrated Burundi's. overrated underrated together here. underrated Amphibians overrated reptiles ou I think. I don't think we think about Infineon's enough right like between in a reptile I think we like give snakes and shit like thirty two popular. What are you to give you an example of Amphibian? That should be more popular. Like that little salamander guy that's got looks like you smiling. And like those those little guys. Under their like less Scaly, they're fun. I'm just GONNA look up I I came up with this right before we did this so. We. Just like there are so many crazy ass, frogs and life Crazy Frog for instance. Pay The frog. They all come from this common lineage I. Think Frogs Oh. Yeah, like I. Wouldn't you bring that up? That's right. They can bang under like they can breathe underwater to like they're. They're not limited. And I think maybe we have to look at that as a true superpower in nature limitless. They can be worth Bradley Cooper Dude. Funny Yeah, but like. Where's the conspiracy theory that all the rich people in the world are in Philippians? Reptiles. They got it all wrong. They got real powerful ones amphibious man, absolutely from the shape of water. He's amphibious. Really a fish man is more of an amphibian man. That's Amphibian. Fuck Monster Exactly. What would you rather have that or like Jeffrey? Epstein like those are the. That's the scale I. think it's. Another fisherman I got ruled. And finally, What is a myth? What some people think is true. You know to befalls. Inflatable, dinosaur suits do not count as P. I'M GONNA just? The fucking phone famous suit. We see people doing skateboard tricks in the lake. That's not medically suitable. So. How did you guys I gotTa Call My. Wife at the hospital. Real quick, sorry. Office and bad info. Witness all started. I bought a couple of costumes because I was just in case I WANNA make sure I'm good to go. Honey I gotta tell you. Something I gotTa tell you something, but please don't let the first word you say I told you so okay. Don't let that'd be the first thing you say that. Dinosaur suit might not actually protect you so. I look just want I want it to be true, but they work, but they don't. And I realize now it may actually you're right. It may have been the reason for your fender bender. It is hard to drive in that thing. A little bit. Yeah, but you are on your own airbag at the same time. A double double bagging it. Show up to the hospital with covid nineteen and a t rex. Sue just like I'm not contagious. I'm containing it I'm containing. Why is everybody so into that suit though I mean it's hilarious. It's really. Yeah! Moves is really good. And if you're anti hospital, feel like everyone gets a patch Adams. VIBE from it makes me move like this is fun, but it's a new clown knows it's so I. Remember on Halloween this year like they were roving dino gangs in the neighborhood. Center treating. Like, it was wild to the par- Mike Are you all this unoriginal like this is the fat. The fat is so strong. All y'all just said Okay I. Guess we're all dinosaurs, but the sad thing is when you see. A group of dinosaurs and one kid has like the defective suit that clearly doesn't hold the air in so like the heads all droopy should, and it looks like they do like having like passing out midway on a walk laws. Friends got the rain. Exclude on. It's a sad is showing signs of a stroke. It's like the right side is failing a bit. Yeah I mean I can't be too hard on them because like. The same Halloween costume as everybody when I was there except mine was like fucking superman mask with like the store bought like Superman crappy. Why why did we even need a superman mask? That's that's my question. They're scary. Yes Oh black and brown children co where they're internalized white supremacy on outside. Yeah! Exactly for Halloween this year I. Think I'm GonNa wear one of the inflatable t rex suits, but with a borat costume over it. That's my plan this year and a pimp and from the problematic pimp bag costume like the for hat. Hit the TRIFECTA? Threaten Dinosaur. This is. I think that recognizable Halloween. Costumes are kind of underrated because there's nothing worse than someone explaining to you what they are like. At a party. It's like I. Don't know what that is. Yeah Right. Do you like experimental German, cinema? Actually forget it I get it. You're some kind of clown or whatever find Evan digitizing my home videos, and there's like a long as video of my brother when he's three trying to explain which NASCAR race car driver, he said like he's dressed as two other kids and they just like he loses. He's like yeah. I'm bill, Elliott. He has McDonald's on his back and they're like. We were ghosts, sorry. Sorry it's it's the same energy as having someone. Explain a dream to you. Kind of thing really. I don't. I never wanted, but like bill it probably about to like retired. Was He gonNA retire maybe by the time I. Don't know I'm thinking of like. Really this was two thousand. All right, he might have still been in the I. Don't know they were. It was at the I'm also I'm also thinking of like my early memories of Bill Elliott. RACECAR driver like that's way back and then I'm also remembering to be a nascar driver. Your is hands and feet. Just need to work you're. Like a nine point five second one hundred meter dash. Skill. It's not a game has go. I mean. You. Try You try take that thing you try and take seven hundred. Driver's license, but I'll say it's not a bill. To see that best new show someone with no driver's license. So now you're in a NASCAR race. That's fine. I would pay. All right guys real quick. Let's check in with Richard Epstein I think everybody was thinking it. Solicitors go ahead and do it. Right Libertarian economists who I reference like three weeks ago because he. He writes for the Hoover Institute at Stanford He's very well respected. Professor and economist and he was just out here, being guys. It's not that bad. The deaths are GONNA top out at five hundred, and like this is all just a way for the government to seize power. He thought the his first death estimate was only five hundred hundred human hodel in the United States total total. Yes, no, then people pointed out like how. His thing was already wrong like two days later than five hundred people have died, and he upped it like he went back and edited the article so that it said five thousand. So now he's good now he's got. But now. Dude. He's still publishing things where he argues like that. This is all bullshit that. It's not like conspiracy theory shit, but it's it is like still obstinately insists that the government doesn't need to. Like, do lockdowns and they should be. Just letting people who are at risk, just social distance themselves or like lock themselves away. It's just it's truly a reminds me of that thing. Where like people in Colts are above average intelligence? Because you can just like, convince yourself of any. Anything when you're smart enough like you're good enough at arguing, so you can argue whatever truth is convenient for you. A. Really is like he is still out here, still finding a way to just have his head so far up possess. It's pretty fun though to kind of follow him on twitter, because every time he posts an article. There's just like twelve likes and like dragging. People just being like. Shut the fuck up. How how can you still be talking right now? I mean people like this. Who have gone out I mean everything you boil these assholes arguments down. They always boil down to money is more important than human life. That's essentially a because the thrust of the articles like I don't know if based on the death toll, this is worth the damage to the economy. Fuck that not enough people give a fuck about how the economy works in that sense like. Like, we're not business owners. We're not. We're not the owner or ownership class where the worker class that does not mean anything to me, so what I need to hear is my life is worth something so people just like sorry Sir your take is actually completely fucked up because your bottom line is, money is more important than human life, and like this is not how we're going to bang as species into the future, but hey, that could be the way we're going. Well and it's like well, God forbid somebody. Actually gets it, and then he is forced to have some sort of empathy at all like that's like literally what it would take for him to do like you just can't extend that. That thought to somebody that you don't know it's just horrific. Yeah. He's incapable. The it's it's a convenient mental space to be in. Were you absolutely deny that anything bad could happen to you? And that's where every that's the only place you can operate in to be able to go out here and scream your head off like we need to open these L. salons up because. I mean my goodness if it if it's even one degree closer to you, you begin looking at it completely different completely different. Yeah! I'm excited for the bowling alleys. Though guys, let's let's hit up those bowling alleys. That's what that's one of the first things they're opening up. God. I've missed bowling. And also like one of the most, I mean every environment you think of the germiness environment, but like bowling alleys are Jeremy as hell those shared there's this shoes the ball who don't switch shoes and share shoes with strangers winger, just going about your everyday life I love joy shoving my fingers into a ball. Share you guys ever just yeah, Roller Roller. Spit ball down the lane. And then Fucking Madman Series sort of need I mean again, that's so it's so clear like if that's a thing that's being prioritized the bowling alley or bure, saying like I mean you've got to be able to open the bowling alleys like who? That's a very clear. Activity for specific group of Americans 'cause. Yeah, that's. Lobby. Big Dude big. Deer. Shirts out here on these streets this guys. If. The Bowling Alley is an open. That I can't wear the shirt the covers panch. Some kind like. I can't wear that with the for Dora not at the Bowling Alley. Exactly well, it's also these idiots it's like. They! They can't just be friends of the guy without an activity of some kind or like. He does something to talk about separately from actually just like communicating with a friend of mine that I care about. The can't tell them my hair because then I'd be. So toxic that you're like. must inject some activities, so it's not meaningful human communication, which is mistaken for weakness. Exactly. Shove my fingers into a ball repeatedly. We're talking my guy friends about nothing that I actually want to talk about when all I want to tell them is how scared! I Mean, think about it. A Bowling Ball is platonic glory hole. But I mean that's the thing. It's like I have I find myself doing this jackets the same way like. Men in general is not news like we're not. We don't have the same kind of communication skills to be honest with each other like I'm having find myself being like Joe. What's going on with you right now? Tell me that please and it's. It's weird because in quarantine like I'm also kind of developing better skills of like trying to actually communicate in that way as well. Like with other guys, yeah, I mean I'm not like I was always I'm a very sensitive person so I'm always talking my shit, though too, but also being aware of like creating the space to do that for like your friends to. Because yeah, I can go on zoom call and I can rent for one hour straight with the homes about absolutely nothing, but at the same time knowing their parents. Business owners may have dreams themselves. All of this shit is in flux now I'm like let's also like allow each other to like air anything and have that be a place I feel like at times like those. They're like two ways. Zoom call can go with men. It's like nude cove. Nineteen doesn't exist or like. We're going to be a little more vulnerable and begin to be like damn man like it sucks. I had this shit at work. I don't have anybody to talk to like I. Miss This thing and I think it's important that everybody. pull it out. Out You, know take us the awkward silences like the PSA, says it's like fucking just for shark. Well, I do like that. This has made socializing more mindful. I think because you have to be like Oh. This is the person I will communicate with right now in this moment or whatever, versus just like. Oh, I can just go to a bar and just feel I'm being social being around people and not saying run into whoever run into versus being like. Oh, I would like to talk to this person and vaguely. This is what I would like to talk about. Or whatever which is kind of that is kind of Nice. I think it's making. Erica's let's take a quick break and when we come back, it's movie time. We're talking men. Talking. Men in black. We're. Talk. We're talking we're talking in. Black we'll be right back. Hey let's Jack from. The show we host together gets. In the middle. Are you okay anyways? That, a lot of conventional deodorants contain aluminum which forms up plugging or sweat glands to keep you from sweating. Yes, exactly, that's why I don't like to use anti per sprints. Because that's what it's doing, it's it's anti perspiration natural function. That's why I must with deodorants 'cause I went to d older, my pits and that's what's great about native deodorant because it's made without aluminum parabens Talq. It's also Vegan and never. Never tested on animals, so it's humane plus they have many sense for me. Personally a more of a floral guy I like lavender and rose. That's what I. 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Dude, there's no it being a mountain dew drinker for twelve to thirteen years I can say that Bob last is hands down the most enjoyable flavor I've experienced. I'm always on the hunt to buy this stuff during the warmer months to me is well worth the money. If you like a fruity live flavor, my only complaint is that they don't sell it here during the cold months. This is I think. We're in. We're dealing with a whole. Another country feel of our mountain Bob Bob last real, yes, real. Wow. I'm so excited I can't. Ralph's for the first time in forever. It's wild like. This is also not men in black related, but I did notice like as I was driving to the store with my mask and gloves on the. People walking all over the place I, mean the the weather in l. a. past couple of days. It's been really nice, but people were just. It was like all right enough with the social distancing stuff. The weather's nice for that so. I got great. I keep doing it. You gotTa keep doing it. 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I remember seeing daters. I did not realize it was as old as it is. I was like I know so. So this is sort of near the beginning of will Smith's career Ed. Bad Boys, a ninety five Independence Day and ninety. Ninety seven. Enemy of the state and ninety eight, and he would have had the matrix they. Instead, he did wild wild west. What good while while? I think the thing that this has got like funny aliens that aren't like. Yeah, they're scary, but they're also like cartoon. Like it almost helps, you feel young man like aliens, and we live together because they're like they smoke cigarettes and drink coffee and are toxic, and then there are other people should. It's great. Yeah, and then there's also like great gadgets like we don't have gadgets like we used to movies like we did in the nineties that was one thing I remember being a child, and after seeing nearly every like action film, there was some fucking gadget. I wanted to have like I. Need a turtle, com or I need a Dick Tracy Watch I. Need A fucking Noor Alizer. This this this era is like my favorite balance of like practical effects and computer effects where it feel like they're not totally 'cause now there's no practical effects ever, but seeing like this. That guy's face open and having be appraisal, thank. You! Bob Franken, your, Shit Freak it. Baker like his a legend, and when it comes to practical effects. But it reminds me like drastic park. Everybody talked about the CG. CGI being like the thing that made that great, but it was actually like a mixture of CGI practical effects. I'm like most of the things we think are CGI are actually practical effects that they touched up with Sesia and I feel like that's what they. Still Look so good. Yeah, and this still looks pretty good. Yeah, yeah, there weren't that many times when I was like. Really this is fucking painful like. Even, the fuck talking Pug I was like I. watched that Scene Weiss because I'm like. Yeah, this looks fucking off point for really. Even. I have a real thing with like that so I think we've talked about before, but I have a real thing with that kind of animal like this air. Okay, the Pug is very funny, but I used to have nightmares about those dead animals that they're just jaw flaps and they're. Just like the dog. Forty, yard stare. To, still the scariest Shit, the entire world to me. pug Is Yeah. Yeah, dogs are dead I'd. There okay when when paired with a human mouth, it's scared, it's. Do you remember that movie, cats and dogs I think he came on ninety nine Yep I saw that movie theater I saw in theaters when I was a kid. We had to leave. The theater is too scary. At the one that was. Like cats, rule dogs drool was like this title, and it was like all celebrity voice. Like Botox so fun! Do you feel about that Tumbler about sharks being replaced with human teeth. I- ALAH AAC IT okay. Wait that there is an actual fish looks like it as human teeth, and it really freaks me out. All right guys. Let's go through men in black real quick, though let's just kind of I did a running diary and you guys can jump in any any where. Are we going chronologically here? Yeah, let's go. Let's go Krahn. All right so I seen. They're they're illegal aliens. There's a lot of illegal alien jokes. There's like a human trafficker, but he's like a fun. Human trafficker pulled over Jon Gries who plays Uncle Rico in Napoleon dynamite is. Hell? Out Then Trivia? Momentum blacker like okay. You can go back to your human trafficking. Good needed to get this alien dude like the border patrols justice stupid in nineteen, ninety seven as it is now. Back then it was it was. It reminds us of a pre ice world when it just seems to be I n, s and so ins are the guys who are the you know rowdy cowboys. Slack, jaw yokel cowboys are trying to portray them, as but it was. It's interesting to see them like in that scene. Right? Clearly, when Tommy Lee Jones pulls up with his old man partner. They're like he has a very young main approach to the migrants that he's like he's like. Get the. The fuck out. Hey, how you doing all right? You Be America, but then it gets really dark. If you just look at it very on its surface, it's like these guys came were nicer this group, but then singled out one guy, and took him into the dark of the desert night by themselves, and like what is that? What message does that? Even sending people who are like he let us go, but he took that one guy who was honorable the whole time. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah a lot of mixed mixed messages in that seed. In Yeah Yeah. The also that alien when Tommy Lee Jones like let me get a look at this guy. He cuts the dues. Poncho open and it's just the alien holding a Rod with. My Man. You got all this technology to put this book of human head on a stick. Your other plan is okay. Just drink the Poncho on me. Yeah and then I will open doors and shit. Somehow again I myself watching this film and going through all the weird holes of the Alien Lodge. I'm glad you're watching. This very critically is good. All right so this is my big question. who were then introduced to will Smith mid. Chase his chase perp down bow on. He's in like. Orange hance that like are they part of an intentional outfit? Was He undercover as a clown or like a prison? Inmate? Like it seems like there's going to be a reason that he's wearing that, but then he's not. He's just like that. That was his outfit. That's his I mean he's. He's a plainclothes DT. Yeah, you know essentially. Okay all right The US hide around his waist part of the pants, or is it like? Is this question about what role will Smith plays within the New York Police Department his uniform, or the actual mechanics of the outfit is wearing like the mechanic Alps it. Jump, so he has big orange pants. Yeah, but then he has like a matching orange shirt tied around his waist. Yeah, yeah, so he just had the Nice tracksuit. Yeah take it easy, Tim, Gunn. Working for you. It just feels very chunky and nine wealth does I looked I love this suits in, but like I will Smith's plain clothes in this movie are very underrated. I always forget how good yeah. He has he's still like manages to wear like three or four amazing outfits before you get to the suit. I realize that there were moments like in this I watched it I realized how many things I actually modeled for myself from this film I have the I. had the running shoes that will smith is wearing. Would that outfit outfitting question that Jack? Song about their their running shoes from the nineties called the Air Max Triax I. had them Shits Because I. I remember seeing will Smith Wear Them I also wore them I also, he also wears the Reebok. Shack noces basketball sneaker in a later scene, adversely the headquarters another shoe I tried to buy. They did not have in my size, but that was also will Smith. One other moment I also wanted to drive a Ford Ltd like the car. They drove I. would say how much I wonder out a Ford Ltd up until maybe about fifteen when I realized that the. Dot Anyway I realized how much consumer Shit dishes. This film did to me so. I will our Cape for the outfits. Yeah his second outfit. The one that's like yellow and like has like a bright yellow cod piece stripe down the middle looks like a store bought children's bumblebee transformers Halloween costume. Body part of. Cool. I thought he was wearing. A niche from the late nineties is what? He's, but he's also. He didn't even mention his really dope outfit. That's the outfit he wears when he comes back when he realizes he wants to join when he goes the. Favorite one he has fantastic baggy jeans with the new. York timberlands on. Shimmery read like kind of inbetween supposed to be like. It looks like it's cut like a denim jacket, but actually very. Yeah I'll rock that shit now. There's a there's a great example of a trope that I feel like was huge and ninety movies where they cut into a scene of Tommy. Lee Jones and will Smith, and he's like. And I said honey why eating my popcorn, and like he starts laughing. Really are a good laugh. John's laugh is good like. Because, it's got them like emphysema like tinged. Hits! He's E. We see a little bit. That laugh lived through Phnom Holy Yeah. You're like he's actually putting himself at risk enjoying himself much obsolete. IOS. That trope just was used constantly the whole like cut in here the punchline to the joke like the rectum damn near killed him I think. Dumb and Dumber, I was that black sheep CPA. Yeah, yeah, we're. Like the. It shouldn't be used other is. I, did not like it in this another bit of Trivia. This was a line my friend group. When we saw this twelve thirteen year olds we latched onto constantly would always go any. This one's eating my popcorn. That's the line and it turns out like actual punchline. I think it's in. It's in a few films actually like in people pointing out that it was like almost a trope like it's a been a daredevil issue. It was in another film in the sixties. That visit honey. This one's eating my popcorn and I was like what the fuck is. The setup and the setup is fucking gross like it's not. You'll okay. Do you want me to? This is what I found when I was like. What is the setup for the honeymoons eating my popcorn? One its this, this is what the job is. So a man or woman decided to take a movie one night, and it just so happens at one on that same night. A farmer has decided to sneak in one of his roosters from his farm after getting their snacks, the couple head into the darkened auditorium, which is nearly full there. Only two seats left. Left and they happened to be next to the farmer and the rooster, which is concealed in his pants midway through the movie. The Rooster pokes his head out of the farmers Zipper and begins to peck and eat the woman's popcorn. She notices and nudges her husband, saying honey. Look at what this guy's cock is doing. Her husband replies I. DON'T PAY IT NO mind if you've seen one. You seen them all, so she looks over at her husband and says yeah, but honey. This one's eating my popcorn. No imagine how long it took to write that joke now. I have a feeling that there might not actually be a real setup and this was someone doing their darndest. Yeah it's a reverse engineer for sure my new favorite thing when you hear like a long way did stupid as joke like that is to picture that scene from little women were social. Ronin is writing by candlelight. Then by paid six, hundred and one, you say honey. This one's eating my corn. The part. Where Tommy Lee Jones like explains everything to him, and he's like humans for the most part. Don't have a clue, and they don't want one, and it's them like sitting on a bench looking at the twin towers in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety seven. Which is weird? prescient moment, what are they know? And there's the there's a couple like ominous twin tower scenes for sure. There's also I love how they use this to like us. Aliens as like a cultural touching point to like. Spin off a ton of other bits like what happened to Elvis. Like what the origin of Liposuction is even though Tommy Lee Jones says Lipo suction and I'm always like it's. I was raised hearing light bow. To this day still bothers me. Hear him say Lippo Section, and it probably is right for whatever and then I was also looking I took a second to try and take stock when they said we're actually watching all the aliens around the world and the apple better on their. Loans in their. Also Newt Gingrich. Isaac Mizrahi Danny Devito Al Roker Barry Sonnenfeld Dionne Warwick. Anthony, Robbins George Lucas Spielberg and chloe Sonnenfeld Berry's daughter. I had to do little and figure out who that was and it was. Well. All right all right, guys. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back with more men in black. Hey Miles. It's Jack from work. You're currently talking to each other on a podcast recording literature dailies like hey, did you know so? My Mother's Day is coming up on Sunday may tenth I win. Your your mother's. I believe Mother's Day my mother. We have this day for my mom known. That's that's that's is called Mother's Day, and that's for everyone to celebrate their mothers. Oh. That's why my wife get so mad when I make it about my mom. Mom Up with a good gift I am I'm going to macys Dot Com and taking advantage of tons of sales. There's a thirty percent regular sale and clearance prices, and fifteen percent of beauty and fragrances sees dot com right now, look. 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She yeah she's. She's not like the other girls. She's not GonNa try to liberate herself from a tree, their little girl wearing. That alien bug through me and. I love Queens Yeah. So the sexual chemistry with the mortician, the attempt to have like a sexual chemistry between her and Will Smith is weird, and then like the next woman we see is Tommy Lee Jones, looking at like the woman he loves, and she's just like a a woman gardening outside of a house, and then like looking off into the middle distance like it's a plaque psoriasis medication. Just such stock footage. It's like wow, you guys really like. Don't think about women ever at all in I know to your point Jamie. I haven't seen this film and maybe. To fifteen years at least, oh. I couldn't I was almost certain that Linda Fiorentino character came in much sooner than like with thirty minutes left in the film I was like what? She's says bad, and there's even like an a female alien at any point like they. It's such an easy way just to like. Add one in is just. Of The exposition aliens be a woman. Only man aliens are all men. COME ON, Dude! Yeah! I liked it. They make her an agent at the end, but then don't they kind of Undo that in the next movie where they're like actually Tommy Lee Jones is back like. For forget what happens. Bill the whole logic of how she went from being like working at the city morgue to Dan, being like well, she did shoot the bug in the back. I guess we'll like previously. This is only open to like the best of best of the best Sir with honors yeah, but then it's whatever she's pretty chill. Pick Will Smith, because he has that chance encounter with an alien when he runs down, and then they pick her because she has a chance encounter because the cat like having a follow the body to the morgue, which by the way has a front desk and a bell like? Getting a lot of walk INS at the morgue. David Cross running it David Cross. What truly great performance. Yeah, I go my God look how young years here the moment when he he'd actually great acting when he brings up the bug spray from behind the counter, and it's clearly pissing Agar off and he does this crazy quavering lifting bill. Damn Cross. You got fucking range on. Give, Alvin and the chipmunks just anybody. So really what? I also really like that scene because a agent K at that point like. Will Smith is in like not getting the hint. He thinks that she's talking she. She wants to show him her vagina. I think. Is What what we're meant to think. There It makes no humans here. Just show you something I hadn't. I hadn't seen. We did this on the bags low-caste, but like three years ago and I was like. Oh, right there's. But I love this perp because Tommy Lee Jones character just like. Just, casually like pulls out a cigarette. 'cause like yeah. He's just bored and there's nothing for him to do. And so it just reminds me of like the part in ghostbusters. Where like suddenly Dan ackroyd. has a cigarette dangling out of his lips. That's just like such a different era. When like smoking was something? That like characters would do that like? It wasn't like they were a smoker. It was just something you. You're standing around in building. Yeah, Hey, our friends at Philip. Morris paid good money for that advertising skit in. Just a weird inexplicable cigarette. There's another thing with again alien logical when the two are, killings are meeting up at the Perogie. Restaurant, Rosenberg, the jeweler he meets with the other dude who's like the Big Lurch Looking Guy A. They're just speaking in their mother alien tongue in public. Ambro. Nobody's notice I like languages and on my i. never heard this was this. What's going on over here? These guys what's going on here? In L. A. New York. You don't listen to anybody's other table. Some gobble go over their their business. Right the cats come on. I put microwave Perogie on my grocery list after seeing senior like he looks so good, so I would love real Perogie, but I'll take microwave pirogies from von. Yeah always another thing I never. I didn't have Perogie as for the first time until I went to Toronto for our live show back in February of this year. And I have been lusting after the Perogie because of this film, never having the opportunity to have it until. I Real Polish Perogie is like ten years ago and I. Think about it all the fucking time. Really Yeah, so good there. I don't know there's so fucking good bigger quarantine project learned to make some good asp pirogies at. Magin it's pretty once you get the hang of it. You gotTA dialing those flavors. It's something else. Does there again I love that they call the tabloids. They respect the power of the. Bring Back Watch. That's like one of three things that I've liked remembered from this movie. I thought that was so cool. I used to I used to pay attention yes. Yeah! Yeah after this I was like that started smoking after. Good enough ran all ahead. And I just WANNA. Busted Old Ford sedan from the early eighties. Exactly I just love being in seventh grade. Just chain smoking bubblegum cigarettes Redel Batboy. Movie it was great. Wax Slips on talking I'm always like what I like. I JUST WANNA. Know where Tommy Lee Jones was at on understanding computers when this movie was shot Oh lighting types of you, you can feel the emotion. He's typing on that. Keyboard, yeah. You? Really acting through his fingertips net seeing that just like resigned. CLICKY CLACK clack clock! You see him on the keyboard. You're like yeah, that's an academy award winner. How An Academy Award winner tapes. Taps her away heartbreak. couple. Cam There a couple of. Moments of like technological them, not knowing how technology works, there is like the pretty soon like we're going to be using smaller CDs than the CDs we have. True. Which is true? You have those little half, guys. Like a little little singles. Yeah, the they were popular in Asia for sure Oh! Oh Yeah Rosa in my middle school. That was like a mix tape thing. If you gave the little half CD to someone with like five, you could fit like five songs on it. Good Shit there. You Go! Yeah, yeah, the thing that I appreciate about the film on one level is like if you want to, you can see that there is. The whole film is sandwiched between these these images to show you that everything that happens on this planet means fuck all tax thing. Yeah, yeah, so stop treating yourself fucking seriously. You're more on the first. The first scene is like this cool dragonfly animation like Oh cool words. Dodging the fucking trucks then Splat fuck you. The version of getting hit by a car. A dragonfly the human equivalent happens all the time, and then at the very end of the film cut to some fucking alienist playing marbles with our Goddamn, Galaxy. And I'm I'm important, but I'm important. Meanwhile, we're the toy of something else I thought. It's very subtle, but as I was watching it now Zach, oh man life is so impermanent and meaningless like really take in. Bring the full context of the universe into it oh yeah. I learned all my nihilism for men in black. Guy Dragging that dragonfly tattoo on your your. Exactly right there second remember SPLAT. The fact that they're so casual about the world being about to end and like kind of filled me with dread I remember like when I was a kid. I was -LICA-. It's like shouldn't be here at serious on this. I found it very comforting. I was like Oh. You know what? We should just be more chill about it. It's going to happen. We're just marbles in some fucking sick aliens game. Yeah, suck it exactly. Except the alien that they were all marbles inside of looks like the computer animation for like a educational video game from the early nineties. That was probably like sadly, though worst CG of the entire film was. File Lot that like weird. Three finger hand lifted marbles. I could have rendered that a little bit mortgage texture, Bre, please. Get some texture on my aliens next year on my alien hand, please. Another fun fact Verne? Troyer is also in this film playing. Yeah, their role of alien son. Just I just I like I went through all the credits, and like hey, look at you. I think it's when all those aliens were in line at the office. He played a tiny vincent and offering performance as the alien inhabiting a human body for the first time, and like it doesn't fit. Them is so good. I mean. Dominated really haven't talked about how. Yell Yeah I mean everybody like let's repertory rest in peace. was fantastic. Rip Rain, Intergalactic Kager, I like say that. Once. Palm. For. The two things in this move like when I hear men in Black Integral Kager and the the wife saying Giger suit like that would just. That one. Great performance by Sean Fallon Hogan. Who is the actress who plays Beatrice? Seminal line when she says Edgar. Your skin is hanging on for bonds. Book into this day I'll get shed on the ED, although what's sad, though it is like our first glimpse of a male female relationship. Is this abusive marriage where he's your rating her about how useless she is, and then then he gets his Charlton Heston style, but is. It was very interesting again. Watch we watch it like this. It is like very disdainful of like just general humans like it's just like everyone's like real, dumb and like who? Edgar was gonna like everyone. WHO's not a man in black is kind of addiction I. do like the end of the Beatrice scene. Where Will Smith is like? No, you gotTA. Go outfit Redecorate Your House. This guy was trash. That's good Oh. Yeah, I wish that. They had tried to make her an agent. Actually, that's what do seem. Relevant to the plot, then Laura like yeah well, and then she would have just been like because she's so nonplussed by everything I actually probably has the right temperament is like I've seen some shit. Yeah, show me an alien. That's fine. I think she. Men in black. And deal with Edgar's dumb ass that there are some great physical comedy bits, and the one of them is from Vincent in off Rio, when he's like walking through the streets in his whole shits up because he's inhabiting rotting corpse, there's one where he like he like gets in some guys way and he gives them like this would please finger back to this day. Again kills me every time I see it and also the test taking seen another great bit of physical comedy. Secrets that test taking I like is kind of a weird. Thing for me and my life. If I mike overwhelmed in a situation where I don't know how to like solve a problem, I'll be like way. Zor table as should be pulling towards me. Straight is like a thing that I will be like. There's something that I am not seeing right now. It's become a part of life philosophy. Yeah. Did a great thing mid century modern Scandinavian furniture. Lot of Really allows will Smith first of all. He looks great, mentioned his outfit. Dope and second of all. It's just like him. Going off of that Carlton Ass West Point Grad is like so perfect. It just really let's Smith. fucking salute, fucking, fuck with the more. One thing is again. Another weird thing was bugging me as an adult, and as they deal with org charts and things like this. When Tommy Lee Jones is reducing his identity to Jay. He says merely going backspace back. Leaving it to Jay and then. All of like new identity confirmed Jay, and it literally said new identity Jay, and I'm like there's only if everybody in this fucking place basically has a one letter name. This is the only fucking J. in the place. You only have however many people in this building. Yeah! Twenty six yeah men in black at a time. Unless. You're like the the right parentheses. Is Your name expanded to the show? Certain right I'm this is. Weird yeah, because they I think they do delete the J. and then. The whole name I was just I thought it was gonNA. Just go to J., and then that would be his name. They just like and then there's a giant J.. Also weird that they like rather than just deleting the files they had to you. Races footprints as a baby and strike. Then moments they choose to be thorough verses. Not At this movie is all over the place where something? Very much like Whoa. And then other times. That they'll go two minutes sequence to do. It's weird. Also I love the assumption that I like I was like how many women did will Smith just ghost? When he did this this thing. 'cause you like big. You're probably like had were in several relationships. Did you have the implication that he's like an orphan with no siblings or family? That would care about him even though he's third of his name. Third. Of His name, orphan who like even yeah like you're like this guy probably has a social life. He doesn't and it's weird. Because to be a men in black. You'd have to be something like curmudgeon isolated lone wolf type figure, but this guy's like this guy doesn't fit that, but I mean hey, he's got. He's got the look. You've got well. Yeah, have you seen men in black three? Do you know how they complete the circle now should. Men Black threes good, you guys, check it out, but there's an origin story. That's actually really sweet and heartbreaking. To like? Tommy Lee Jones is not just meeting. Agent, Jay for the first time in this movie he just pretending to. Go with. Very warms my auto light. Island I'm skipping that one. I'm going straight to men in Black International. I. Think teeth into. Men In black three is very underrated third film. came out like. Ten years ago right? That was kind of weird after okay. And then Hemsworth is the one that just came out last year Internet. Which? We're like I remember searching just to see what kind of any interesting thing fees about men in black there were, but when I searched men in black, one of the first things that came up was like men in Black International Review I wish I could Noor allies myself. I was like Oh boy. I someone who worked on who worked on that movie. It was just like it was the most unhappy time of his life. Oh. That's right. Yeah and that. Is. Hemsworth Chris Hemsworth, Hate to see that because Tommy Lee Jones also one of my birthday twins also have the same birthday and. At, Harvard. Well Ties it all together. Back at the end when we see him as like his future agent, he's dressed like neo from the matrix. Will. Standing caller I was like really did they had to show? It's like Nah. He's now. He's top dog. Maybe he can take liberties with the uniform. And the other. The woman agent looks like. APPS like they did such a bad job of like styling her. Not to be rich, but the jacket was ill fitting I will say that. Could have been more tailoring with that jacket. The buttons looked strained also has sued at the end. Controversial opinion maybe was not good. No, it was. It's a bad suit. He's got a bad suit. It's bad glasses. Original look is better dude. What are you doing? Back when the that standing collar or mandarin collar as they would call it at a prom shop. They're like you know the mandarin collars really popular. Now we used to call oriental caller. The mean granted it did come from Chinese era fashion, but like. That whole look, it felt I think felt right for ninety seven because like your. Not Caller but This Oh Yeah. All right well brandy. It's been a pleasure, talking and black with you. Where can people find you follow you? Yeah. You can find me on twitter. Instagram at brand dazzle B. R.. A., N., D., A., Z. L. E.. I've got a podcast called lady to lady with Barbara Gray and test barker. It's real real real fun time. 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Ad Astra (2019)

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Ad Astra (2019)

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There's one shot of Tommy Lee Jones and like a flight outfit that they might have just pulled from the publicity still from space cowboy right so you know I'm inclined to be in the tank for a kind of cerebral science fiction film which this most certainly is the shares a lot in the day with interstellar still shares a lot of DNA of two thousand one space odyssey. It's not exactly the same and tone as either of those but it's close to that then gravity although it has a lot of gravity. DNA into does yeah one damn thing after another happening. the film felt longer than two hour runtime. What did you think I'm curious man. I think the thing that this movie is trying to do is not for me but it is for a lot of people I think the films just trying to do. I don't know how much I want to say in the non spoiler section because it's the this film is a journey they they go a very long way a to make the point that they WanNa make and the movie is that point and if I start to talk about those things it will kind of spoil the movie I were right because this movie is extremely extremely dense. Mysterious for ninety percent of its run time yeah where okay in yes in in some ways in other ways. I think it's ham fisted and just bashes you over the head right from the jump Juneau. Did you know it was going to happen at the end. No I didn't know exactly not going to happen but I knew what they were getting at right. The yeah the the narration I found very a little over the top man but if it wasn't there it'd be indecipherable. Yeah it'd be silent movie right. I feel myself very torn by this movie because I think the the central thesis of the film is something the thing that I have grappled with and come to terms with an answered in my own mind okay the so from that angle like this did nothing for me in however like it's it's very well made and the and I found despite its very stately pacing that I was never bored with it yeah when I said it felt longer this two hour run time I don't I didn't use it comes across as write a criticism but at no point was this film not watchable. Yeah it's just like again. If if I didn't know that it was two hours and three minutes with credits I would assume that was like a two hour forty five minute kind of interstellar Zeller type of runtime I'm actually kind of. It's weird how the time dilation worked in film stellar yeah no and this and this talking about okay the gravity of the real life gravity bill. My guests stretched it because there are so many long stretches without any dialogue where you're just kind of pondering Brad Pitt Brad Pitt pondering the circumstances he finds himself in. Maybe that explains it because Yeah Yeah I I. It's it's it's the damnedest thing and it's a very it's a very interesting blend of like ultra realism and and surrealism like every time every time. I thought like okay I'm grounded in what this film's technical reality is they would go a little star trek on me made aware like I can't even tell it this is realistic and I found the action scenes absurd for the most part there were one or two that were good like the opening being action scene. I thought was very good yeah as amazing and grabs you and then there were some that I thought that they were just ridiculous and didn't need to happen but the I guess the best way to describe. This film is quiet not slow because they jump you right into the plot. There is no hesitation and ended. Just keeps pushing you down that path. There's never a moment where I was like. When are they going to get to the next plot point well so okay. I think I just stumbled on something so this there is as a lot of action in the first two thirds of the act of this movie in fact actually there's a lot of action throughout the film but the central character and this isn't a spoiler because it's established lick within the opening shot. Brad Pitt has this his his character. has this almost supernatural ability to stay calm under any circumstance like is resting wresting heartbeat is like forty five beats per minute when he's going through an extremely stressful time in the first five minutes this film it spikes at eighty and ended his kind of just placid demeanor no matter what is happening. I think that's what gives this movie like. This movie has ice blood in its veins pains. Absolutely the movie is Brad. Pitt's character and I and that's why I say like I think it's very well made. I think everything they're doing here is of a piece this and and it works. It's just maybe not for me. The other thing is I felt like this movie kind of washed over me and there's a couple of instances where I got thinking about like things in my own life and kind of like my my mind would wander but never bell. We're always like the movie base for that. Yeah yeah felt like a like an art museum without a crowd. We felt like oh I can just sit on this bench and stare at this this this picture and think a bit and then you know every once in a while yeah it would gently bring you out. It's like a a really good yoga instructor yeah like they bring you to a place of Zinn and then they know they need to ease you out of that into the next portion of the of into the next warrior pose right yeah great time for down facing dog yeah do do you. Would it surprise you. If within a few weeks there is a two thousand or twenty thousand word essay that reveals an entire other layer in unstructured of this movie or a forty five minute Youtube Phil film series that shows Deller got all. I could understand that this movie now this. This movie is very simple you. This movie is doing one thing it's asking one question and it's giving you it's answer so many bizarre things in this film and and Bizarre Performance graces. I think that that those feel like like a whole incident in like like a sub space disruption in Star Trek where you know there. There's something there there. That's like the tip of the iceberg and it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me and surprise. There's a whole other bandwidth of Information Kinda liked by me saying it would it would surprise me then yeah. I'm setting myself up to be surprised right when it when it like if I not seeing it yeah me but yeah I. It's one of those things where I also. Oh was really brace for an emotional payload that I felt like it it. It never really came because it's just again this this this this movie's heart rate's not going to get over six sixty five arresting arresting over resting sixty five beats per minute. Yeah it's a very very quiet and isolating movie and I don't think it ever establishes the necessary character her connections to to really hit you on the way that other movies do this. This is more about contemplation a not about like feeling suffering necessarily. What did you think of the performances like. It's hard to get hard to. It's it's hard to rate them because they're I think they're what they needed to be. You Know George Lucas is famous instruction faster more intense. I feel like distraction was a slower less intense. Yeah slower less intense. Deep breaths breathing in through your nose out through your mouth through your ass. So how how do you judge that. I don't know man I think I think the actors did did exactly what the director wanted them to do. so. I think it's good acting I felt like the movie looked expensive like special effects the set work. The costuming was all amazing amazing. There's actually to to to the extent that it was a little jarring that they didn't bother to do like the differential gravity of like the moon and Mars right like that's something you notice in the expanse. It's like well shit. It's it's the expand their every four or five episodes. They're going to do zero g seen and just so you remember. They can do it but like when they're on the space stations were on the moon when they're on a a moon of Jupiter. You'RE NOT GONNA get one tenth. One twentieth gravity and I felt like this is the the movie with with as little time as we spend in those environments. I wish I wish they they they did I. I wish I sweated that detail. Yeah I think you're right. I think every every space movie should take gravity into account. Take the the you know the physics of it all into account and didn't seem like they spared the expense. I mean you've got Brad Pitt in it very expensive actor. I'm talking like maybe there's thirty forty seconds where or you'd have to rig up a small crowd of people with some kind of a thing to just make him flu that do do that little bit of float as walking down a hallway and that would have really really been in in something impressive and I it's like I wonder I don't know maybe I don't expensive movie is but maybe there's ran out and they're like yeah. I think that's for sure it's forty five seconds fucker but has to be forty five million dollars right yeah the only thing. I wish this movie had done differently. Is that narration I really. We feel like they just kept driving. This point home like about who Brad Pitt is who his character is who his father is what what that means to his life and I I just felt like every time a A. They started back in on it. It was just them repeating themselves like I I understood from the first few bits of narration what they were getting at and then and then you could have given me some more at the end and I think I will say I think the the mirroring of the two narrative pieces at the beginning in the end is very effective. Yeah I love that yeah. There was a perfect way to cap that film. It's almost exact same everything in between felt wrong to me interesting. They're not everything but a good chunk of the seven between okay. I don't know if I have anything else to say. It's non-salary okay this is currently boasting like low eighty percent on rotten tomato that I feel like that's I would say it's very ambitious this going this is this is asking and questions that not many movies care to ask and that few few very few are equipped to ask I was very disappointed added to see the crowd like this. This was this was screen was on the big screen at the house. this is the screen that they usually show the vendors on like the Justice League's John John. It was ten percent full yet. The Guy at the concession stands said that this was like a special preview. I like one night right before and I think he's right because it wasn't any other theater. It's like I have a while. You'd think it'd be even more contrite because this theater. This is not uncommon like all you you know. That's how we get these things out on Thursday night. Is there reliably have the first releases yeah you know seven o'clock on Thursday so like if there is a big buzz does people wanting to see this movie day would have sought that out like esther on Google and it gives you results you see all the local so as I I'm the hard and I know why except for my little theaters playing Rambo tonight well I. I hate to say it but like Doc. I think this is more evidence of like the anti an anti intellectual tied culture yeah because they'd rather see the same fucking Rambo again then some didn't take a risk on something you know ambitious. Maybe not entirely successful thoughtful deliberative move contemplative so this is what it is yeah Let's talk about some trailer. Shelly sure Jim Do you WanNa talk about nine hundred seventeen. We've talked about it before so I've kind of interested in this movie just saving Private Ryan but it looks like it's GonNa be good wore one. It's like that's a fucking doc in crazy crazy war stars Richard Madden and been benedict hundred cumberbatch among others so yeah. I'm I'm interested in seeing it. yeah let's move on to Ed Norton Verse Willy CaN't Polly Alec Baldwin William Defoe Michael K Williams motherless Brooklyn The star power like every every other scene they showed was dan new huge name star. Yeah Yeah I. I don't even think I'm super interested in the plot of this film. Although it seems like it's a guy with turrets who who is working for William Randolph hearst or is that the big bad of the the film. Is this going to be like a real based on a thoughts thoughts. I heard his name. I thought that's I. I don't know okay. it's kind of a detective underneath like kind of detective in training underneath. Bruce Bruce Willis gets mixed up in some stuff. He's got to figure out what he was mixed up in an leads apparently something huge yeah. It's based on a novel which is interesting. It's it's directed by Ed Norton and he adapted the screenplay too so I'm I'm very interested to see what this is all about and just just a names by God I in fact I thought like if if I didn't no it didn't lead with written and directed by Ed Norton thought does like Scorsese joint or like when you get this kind of star power together Holy Shit Let's move onto a beautiful day neighborhood. I don't think you've seen the trailer before. Eh Oh you have okay this. I- Jesus Christ. I can't wait for this. Come Out I think this is a bulb movie right for sure. Yeah okay so this is if you don't no no. I kind of bio pic about Mr Robert Mister Rogers rather and journalist who does a cover story on them. Minutes feels like his mandate was like find the real Fred Rogers. You see what kind of dirt underneath this this man's fingernails and mild spoiler. You're not going to find any squeaky clean yeah and I. I'm she's tried. I feel like I've been emotional last couple of weeks Abbas sleeping very well. That's a whole other story okay but like I was like I was tearing up throughout this entire trailer not gonNA survive. This was was being torn up by to have you guys seen the documentary yet. no. We haven't you if you if you want to get if you WANNA get Kinda prepped for this. Please go oh see. Won't you be my neighbor. it's available just about everywhere now and it's it's. It's an amazing look and make you feel good about yourself and the way that Mr Rodger Skin can do countdown. No I think the monster looks creepy. The grim reaper okay yeah. That's the best thing he you could say about it though but this is the standard cell phones are killing us like there's been fifteen different versions of this movie in the last as many years yeah and they're they're count that their APP idea is not original man that was I've. I was thirteen year old looking at this shit on the Internet like it's been around forever. I knew the day I was going to die today. I logged onto a page and click the button and I found out I feel like that. We are going to sit through about fifty different movies. It's based ace on Creepy Pasta on the internet which okay whatever you know like the modern day legendary man the was the sap the that the whole like wicky. That's kind of report to be this like sub governmental agency that does paranormal events eight up with that. He loved playing. It's based on a he writes his own entries and he shares them with his friends. I it's about time for him to get into a scary movie. I think he never seen any the scary movies. Now I think the scariest movie you've seen as a trimmers something really shivering timbers. He's thirteen. He survived the Gauntlet of haunted houses at kings things island last year. Oh yeah he's good. He's ready to go. He's he's a lot tougher than I was. At his age. rhythm section terrible name what an awful name for this movie stars. Blake lively also jude law and it looks like every time I see a female kind of like spy thriller action and I keep thinking like you know because I don I. I'm always rooting for these films but I feel like you know the atomic blondes. They just haven't quite done it. like like kill him. Sovereign Sparrow Yeah Kill Bill is a great example of that tied like that's like the pinnacle of that Genre. I didn't even think I thought Red Sparrow's okay for what it was was. I think this one this next great the great hope girl with the Dragon Tattoo. That was pretty good. I got those vibes off this. That's another very successful a female heroine franchise so yeah. I don't know anything about it. It's intentionally mysterious and big but it looks amazing and it looked like it. It's got some interesting actors in it. uh-huh right you feeling on the name bad name the rhythm section yeah what the FAA I hear that name I do not think this movie no no I would think like a nick cannon in mid two thousand ship fast right right something with a lot of singing dancing and musical in and you know what what's what was the other one about the acapella groups pitch perfect yeah yeah. It sounds like a pitch perfect threequarter something. Hey and I thought it was ironic that they used a song without a rhythm section. What did they use the used. How fuck is it not Learn Cohen. It's it's Nirvana did a cover. I love it. I'm trying to think who did it. I don't know I it was a song with vocals and now I guess they did have rhythm but it was guitar. There were no jake drums Gotcha. No no percussion yeah percussion Ford versus Ferrari Ferrari. This is the I've not seen this version of the trailer same here It seemed like it was pretty long. seemed like it gave away a lot of course. I don't know this historical thing. It's four versus Ferrari. I'm almost dead certain. That Ford actually wins so lag. I don't know what they're afraid of giving away or not but like you know I know a lot of people are bored with great men's stories yeah I I. I'll still watch one if it's well-told and this one this one looks like a corker. I was a little worried that that's what ad Astra was going to be like halfway through this. I'm I'm like oh no not another great man story yeah especially a fictional and and then finally kingsman. Have you seen the have you seen. This is the first time I saw this trailer. I've taken kind of a shine to the kingsman universe and this is like a war one prequel and I. That's a very weird choice to make but hell I'm in town felt a little different than the others lowery serious yeah. I don't know that that's what I want out of the King's man. Maybe I love because I feel like one. The problems with like Star Wars especially is that they only have one lane that they know the be in sometimes like I'm dying for Star Wars to get out of that lane. I wanted to fanny hunters. I WanNa see you. You know a long long distance freighter. I WANNA see your job one. I WANNA see a crime film set in the I guess that was a a little bit of Solo but I get get into like lesser explored areas in kingsman going back in time and having a different slightly different more serious sober tone a little less us James Bond Gadji I could but I I also. I don't know maybe they're burying. The lead is going to be very steam punk sci-fi yeah. I will say I'm GonNa Miss Yes. what's his name Taryn Edgerton. He's great in those movies. Yeah Yeah I don't. I don't know if it's GonNa feel the same without him but I was gonna say that the the one knock is the kings man looks like he's a bowl of TAP Yoka but I would have said the same thing edit which is I think it's Taryn Edgerton yeah. I did the same thing about him before I saw aw The for the first couple kingsman movies oh I learned how to pronounce a car Adele evine tonight also I. I just said Ralph fiennes at night. It's Rafe is it. I don't I feel like I've been corrected both ways many times and I just lost on that but Kara De. Levin is how how she pronounces her. Who is the the woman who's playing like the ferry in Carnival Rio haven't seen have you heard of Rosa part of the first episode and then realize should I don't have time to watch this. Oh so I shut it off buddy. You're okay. It doesn't look like it's for me. It's very fantasy. A the party saw was up ad okay. That's all the trailers we saw 'cause this is one of the rare instances we saw the thing the same house. 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Fun Talk: Are The Men In Black a Crime-Fighting Unit?

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Fun Talk: Are The Men In Black a Crime-Fighting Unit?

"Favorite. Guilty Pleasure Action Movie You'd watch him when it comes on TV, no matter what. Would you do you count gladiator action? Sure, okay yet, gladdy, if gladiators on I'm watching it. You GotTa do it right. You just sit down, go up! This is happening. Sorry now, making that appointment. Whatever else was about to happen is being postponed. That I fucking ten minutes. That was the first thing. My Buddy. Nate Hi nate. We set up my very first. Surround sound down in my basement. When that movie came out on DVD. Blu, Ray I, think TV and member US like wiring all you know the five speakers, the two rear ones, and the two frontlines in the center one and that I, fucking ten minutes a gladiator, holy shit man like surround sound at home. We're just giggling whole time. Just giggling at how great it was just the experience was so good, and then the movies fucking fantastic. Whatever the speech is I am. My name is Marcus route when he takes off his mask. Have you ever felt that confident about anything as he does in that moment. No way never will. Yeah, what would what would what would you have to? What would you have to accomplish to have that sense of of? Like I got a leg to stand on here. Asked his was. You Kill my wife and kid. Ask Your. Hung them at my house. My Front Porch. After, I'd spend my entire life. Traveling the world, which is basically Rome was at that point. He was everywhere the known world serving as general your armies, not really being around my wife and kid that much. And Your Dad really liked me, but then you kill them. So. was sent me out. You killed. You killed my wife and kid, and then use, and then you send me to die correct right? And that's when he had the great line of when his own soldiers were sent out to kill him, and it was cold out, and they went to pull their swords out, and he said. Frost sometimes it makes the blade stick, and then you're like Oh shit I Real, great, real, great, such a good one, and also. I gotTa say if the original Matrix is on. That to. Do, people I feel like this is a conversation from ten years ago like? TNT movies, but like the people still. Do People still do that. DO PEOPLE STILL? Time so maybe it's me, but people just like kind of flip around and see what's on anymore I are like my girlfriend, does it? and. But I don't like I, don't. I. Don't do it I. Don't like it I'm usually I'm overwhelmingly disappointed. Every once in a while. They'll be something on. This is what sucks. You say you find Gladiator Holy Shit Amazing Than In commercial commercial and you're like. Are You fucking came out? Right nightmare nightmare can't do it if you so if you were. If you were like long enough fix that. Because there's a whole segment of there's a whole population of people like me that enjoy. This what? What would you if you were in charge of populating? Welcome to talk if you were in charge of populating. If you were like you get to pick the first five movies that are basically permanent rotation. Not these are the only five. Top five permanent rotation on their. You're going gladiator. Way Tricks. Action. No. I'm just saying movies that. People like Brian, not people, but people like Brian. Clones of you essentially versions of you. are going to the the. They'll flip to this channel and it no matter what else is going on within the realm of reason. They're like Oh, I'm fucking. Sin Done Watch this. What are we gladiator matrix? What else? Like. GROUNDHOG DAY! Oh yeah, that's good Yup Yup Yup. Love it so much. This incident so now you've really turned it because. I'm GONNA WANNA. A variety euthanasia's now. Before I was the only got five here. Y-. You know what else I'll watch every single time time. To just become best friends is so. fucking stupid and amazing. Home. Already four. Yeah, see this. Is this these this isn't. Water your favorite movies. This is just those movements. This is just this is like three o'clock on a Saturday. When you're like I got I got shit to do at five that I could and I supposed to do some things before that and it's like three ten and you just. Got Out of the shower, or you're making a snack and you sit down and then like Shawshank is on right I. think that's the number one most people right. mind. That's the one you it's too much. It's too much, and here's the thing like it's parody, but it's it is so good. It was just that it was on TNT or whatever every hour of every day for forever, but like I think you've. I mean there's so many, and this is the problem is. If you look up a list I'm sure he'd be equal this this this. Yup I think you're right that. It's tough. I mean gladiators got to be up there. Again. This isn't favorite movies, either just like fucking rewatch ability. Guilty pleasure slash rewatch ability I think prince said Princess Bride is obviously up there. Right where you're just like who's WHO's not going to watch this. They're almost despair. Right. Love it love it so much great call and that actually is my favorite movie. I mean. 'cause there's my favorites like am I. GonNa. If Star Wars on my gonNA, sit down and really watch it and I. Am I gonNA turn? I think. And, this is where it gets all. I think. Maybe not I mean probably, but not definitely probably because just I. Also put that on my own right at some other time. Does that make sense? Yeah exactly these are movies that you I don't remember the last time I put any of those, said on to sit down and watch them not that I. Don't Love Them, but. But that is different. That's different than yet than favorite movies and I don't know yeah something. Like, you wouldn't just do it yourself. But if you're flipping through like hunt for Red October or Like fight, club is fifteen minutes in you. Go there because the next hour. Right good call by club right right like are you GonNa? Put on Fight Club by the way we'll be a great decision. Is Not going to be top of the list with all the new shared and the old shit. Fuck Fight Club Oh man. Various Peel Day off. Sure Right? You're just like Luke fussell. Big Up from school, and that's a great moment. To go deal with Cameron at the pool. You know. And then they go the cubs game. Oh my God what a day! To Day right, but also like. Is there a better way to spend an hour and a half than than watching that or I mean it's so good. Movies are cool. The these ones are there, so fuck like you know. Hunt Hunt for Red October up for me where I'm like Oh. The were support where they're singing in Russian and he's like captain though and he's like. Let them sing. Oh, I mean. Come on, let's go. Right I mean I. Need to definitely watch me some hunt for Red October again. It has been a long time. I'm doing the submarine movie so I you know yeah loving it forever. I've watched. It recently answers. It's perfect. There's a lot of gentlemen in this film. Are there any women in this fill? In what? Hunt for Red October. there's his wife. You barely see at the beginning and his little daughter. And then there's discussion of Sean Connery's wife, but she's not. She's dead, but the plight kind of revolves around her. And then. He brings his a teddy bear at the end Oh. There's there's a flight attendant. They called them stewardesses back then who asked him about turbulence? But I think that's it because that's the thing into a couple of years ago. Probably weren't weren't even allowed on submarines now they are. I? Don't I just WANNA say? Hell of a segue if we want to get into today in history, unless you WanNa talk more Oh, yeah, no, no, no, I mean I think this is good. If if anybody has other ideas, they're like no question. Universal like programmed for you type things we like bump. Talk here goes. please. Send Him in fun. Talk important on important DOT COM. Are sent him to us a twitter. At a important IMP. Let's let's segue into. Go ahead. What's the category called? What the Hell's Oh yeah today! Hold on is today in history. Is it this day in history today in history? Okay Great, let's do it Let's just roll right into this one from nineteen, ninety seven, because like I, said solid segue. A pretty. Fun. Actions Slash comedy movie premiered. On July second in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety seven. I'm just I'm totally guessing. Sure. We play the game right? Give you hints and stuff no known. We can do that, but let me guess men in black. Yes, what the fuck! Really Bullshit you've you're. Going was talking to somebody about this recently? No, my kids were like I was trying to think of like. What's the next sort of maturity age category movies? They could do that are fun and Mike was asking about aliens ones because they just basically do pixar and shit like that, and I remember like I. Like men in black is so fun and the question with all minor. Just like is this GonNa? Scare the piss out of my kids. And I don't. I mean there's aliens stuff I. Don't think it would be scary one, though yeah, I don't think so good I. my other guests was Independence Day, but when you said fun. That's what I went with With many by that I. that movie was so good. Awesome. That was up there with peak will Smith. I mean Independence Day then I did wild wild west questionable. Great Song Right. Remember. That was just so huge. Everybody just loved it. We were just laughing our asses off watching it. What a what a good time! Then movie must a made a gazillion dollars. SOFA. I didn't I enjoyed the sequel as well. There was a third one. I think there was a third one. That's still starred Tommy. Lee J and will. Smith, but then a fourth one that I did not see that also starts none of them. Yeah. Isn't it with like thor? thors in it and Tessa Thompson. Do we know if? You, don't I. Don't know I. Do not know. Just such a great idea like those ideas where you here. In the room Oh yeah, for sure men in black international twenty two percents fuckers. Let's see what the what did the crowd say? Scores Sixty six But I enjoy both them to death I mean the trailer was. The trailer was like you would expect your Vocab Watch Adly Pretty Fun. I'm on it for sure. That's crazy so good. So good think Wilson peak will. Smith was something to behold I. Don't think kids his age. Understand. I mean we were just living in the world. He's got great stuff out there. Independence Day was just like wow. Oh, good how! Killer so good, and he sees his wife man oh, man so Taylor, when he gets the rejection letter from NASA the beginning. Just the worst fires it's will Smith. What are you thinking? What are you thinking? That's pretty amazing. What if what was was the premise that Tommy Jones was like? The Tommy Lee Jones I. Think was the original agent and like will. Smith was drafted into it somehow right? Something like that, and like he didn't believe in it, and then he got roped into it right, so it wasn't a and like pull back the curtain in their aliens working at the place. And also, there was something with Tommy. Lee Jones was like he needed to be reminded that he was a part of it. Because like it was, he was old, but back when he was like a big shot he was, he was like A. it was young guys like the James Bond. About Hidden. Totally they hadn't given them. The mind eraser had I. don't remember I. Don't I feel like it was something. What didn't he say like? I want out, wasn't he? He like retired. Doesn't familiar. If Tommy Lee. Jones comes to you. Brian. And says. Listen forget everything you know there's there's aliens I need you to be on my team to to effectively catch them. They're not all bad guys. Some good guys, but they're here. They're to be frank. They're like everywhere including in my my office. Are you joining up. I mean I think my first thing would be like there must be somebody else you could ask her. What I have to offer you. It's a fair question. It would be as if any of our regular podcast gassed you for help in the lab. Right here like Sir. Who with all due respect on there has to be somebody who can do basic arithmetic that you would start with? You know so so I would try to get that into his head. Maybe just have them rethink a little bit but if there was some. because. You think it's the right to do or does that to buy you time to decide what to do, know if you if I. if I said Hey, you probably should look for somebody smarter. And he said No. No I know but there's some. There's a reason that it has to be you. You can't know right now or something. Like all right, I guess maybe some sort well. Maybe I should be like. Can you prove to me that you're not just an insane person? And you're gonNA take me behind a dumpster and kill me. Sure I mean 'cause. Law of averages says that's what's really going on. Sure Yeah. For sure and I'm pretty sure. Will Smith said something similar right and he likes showed him an alien or he must. He must have hurt, didn't. See, something happen and he didn't. I don't know it was something like that. You know and it was like. Oh, well he saw, and then they usually like give. Everybody does up, and then they they don't remember. It's something like I got to watch. To Watch it again. Also it's based on I guess loosely based on a comic book and that'd be cool to. Never knew that. I mean such a great idea so anyway. So you all right, so he? Let's say he shows you a fucking alien like you know. Driving, his car in cool. What's your gut reaction when you see this alien driving the car and he's like well. Look. Here's the thing like I can't tell you why. We need US specifically, but you know I came to. All the way to fuck fucking Marina del Rey. So? So. Just like so far different city, basically he's like I landed Burbank. Everyone said that was easy. It's it is unless you're going to renew del Rey. Which is not what I'm so glad lax. I realize that it's a bigger a pain in the ASS. especially with the new thing, but at the same time once you're out, it's so close. I'm questioning his smarts because I was a dumb ass. Move sure sure sure, but maybe somebody just didn't give him details also. He's Kinda old like he's roping in somebody new and you know he's one of the people comes to La and like still rent a car instead of entering fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, so he comes, and now you've see the alien who's driving this rental car to be clear You know, holiday Sonata. Government not splurging for the rental cars here. It's like the two door. You know since four people think you see the alien driving who? Move seat back to. See other door and it's a pain in the ASS. Yeah, yeah, yeah! Yeah, and he's. I think fairly told. The aliens probably tell so. You can't even move it that much, so sit. Are you getting in this car with Tommy? Lee Jones in the alien to his. Office for just a complete overhaul. Yeah I mean. That's a different discussion, but yeah sheriff well, but it relates sure no, it does really I think we've got to bring that into it. Are you fully trusting at this point? Have you given up or you still trying to figure out ways to get out of this shit goes down. I I'm a pretty live in the moment kind of guy, so I'm probably just all about it right then. As long as my guts telling me like something's not super. You know bad about the other I mean. I'm seeing an alien in real life, so shits nuts in my brain right now, but I think I would just go for it and think about the next step later. Does it is it better or worse that he is that he knows everything about you like he knows your alibi. Jackson parade and you know. Past girlfriends he knows about wait. He's telling me all the. Teams well you're looking for probably some justification of five I. Know who the fuck you are. A Murderer Riga the murderer in lesser stalkers, not GonNa do that much research, right? It's too much effort, but I feel like he's GonNa. Read the profile on on the plane Burbank, and certainly on the fucking drive to Marina del Rey I. Love It as a profile on me. I think ask them to see it. Y- I don't think he's going to show it to you, but he's going to spout off like Justin. I mean he's exhausted from from the travel. Yeah. He definitely didn't. Ninety. Yet no, he's not young. But he's got. Let's go you know. It's like right I think it's probably evening, not night, but like evening. and he's I. We do it like he's telling you just enough like he knows about junk rope he knows about. You know you're from Chicago. Junk wrote made it into the profile and credit. Sure sure yeah, I mean he's just like. Why do you have three hundred likes on facebook for an Improv group that hasn't performed in nine years. Yeah, and Y or twenty of them since you stopped performing, it doesn't math doesn't add up and you like. It doesn't make sense for guardless. He knows that stuff is gonNA creepy more make you feel like I mean I guess where the fuck else is. He going? Find out all. That decides like a five minute facebook's. I think I'm I. Think Maybe I'm impressed that he did that. He did the work that he cares enough. Yeah, and hopefully it doesn't tell me like. We had like super creepy things. So. He takes you go. Right away. We're nowhere near getting a suit at this point Um. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we get your you get the office you check in you find out. There's all kinds of like good aliens and helper aliens and. And people you work with, and it's the whole thing around the galaxy. And He finally said you down and he's like look Brian. This is why we specifically need you as the next this. This is what I'm waiting for. Men In black and the reason is. What do you think the reasons oh? You're asking me Oh. Sorry! Sorry, Yup Yup, yeah, what do you think would specifically make you Brian? Best not most of the. Best suited among. Who is available right now? To become effectively Would you say there are crime fighting unit? Can I ask you? What is the? What is the problem? What are the what is? Is it just actually what the problem is in Matarrese I mean? The agencies is trending older and they need young blood. Okay, okay, but wait I think. This thing languish. What men in black actually does well. That's the question is like, are they? Let's go on what we do. Remember which is clearly not too much. Like. The crime fighting unit or they. You know it's like let's think about the FBI enforce federal laws. But they can only operate in the homeland, and the CIA cannot operate in the homeland fair radically they operate abroad. In espionage. Don't think their espionage, but there is elements of that because I remember them doing some investigating I. Guess are more of an investigative unit. So investigative and if comes to like law, enforcement agency. Galactically, but you're based here. So what? Specifically makes you Brian Colbert Kennedy Aka Jackson Parade. Among the most qualified. To do this? I like it in movies. Where like they're like the reason that they have to have this certain person because their blood like there's something in their blood. Something like like biologically in their blood. Yeah I don't know. Like so I watch. I watch. In recently or Caribbean? Hit the first one. And I it was fun or whatever and I forgot that like the whole thing was that they needed the blood of. Of the offspring of the old pirate, or whatever, because that the trip that blood on the gold, and then some stupid shit like I don't know, but I thought that was cool. That like that's why they need. that. person is because it didn't come out too late like Oh shit! I'm the son of the of the old pirate or something stupid so I think I'd like it to be something with blood. You're going a little more skywalker. Ish with which is about like this is about like a family lined up like do we think your mom or dad used to used to be an agent or were? They nugent that turned or the? or The ailing, are you? I'm part alien. It's possible I think. Definitely want it to be. Do you find when he tells you this with no other information that you immediately think of traits that would. That would verify that. Like things? You're just like Oh, well, that explains people have told me I've had a large head. Not Big head like EGO head is large. Sure maybe that's the thing out of the realm of human possibility. No I know, but you're not like a lollipop yet, but I'm reaching for. sure okay, you're reaching, so you're reaching these these things probably are not legitimate. There's a good chance they just tell you like. There's no like physical characteristics right right, which is which is fine. Yeah, because I think for the most part of somebody looked at me. They would think like Oh, he's a human being. but something's going, and you know what maybe this is cool. Because of this book I'm reading right now. Called Spin Sure the the Martians in spin when they're born, they look very human, but there's like a as they go through puberty or some stage of their life. Then they start. They start physically. Their skin gets like sort of like bumpy, some weird physical. Appearance Trait that that happens later, so maybe I look like a human now, but my alien blood is going to start taking over and maybe change the way I look or act or something in. Second evitable and they wanted to get to before. It's weird that that wouldn't happen. Until mid thirties will share, but we don't know about alien stuff. No that's fair I mean they probably entirely different timelines. It's just like most humans body finishes changing eighteen Nash right meanwhile. Your body's already on the decline. On human perspective. Not. No no, it's not about old. It's about like what you've done to it, but anyways regardless. Sweets sure. This week is really the thing that I was talking about. Yeah, it's. It's interesting. It's interesting like I. Guess It could be that for sure, which is maybe it's sorta Jason Barnish. Where like by the way? Maybe you got zapped when you were little so that you don't remember that. You know it's like Jason Bourne sitting on the park bench in the first one and he he can fight, or he can speak other languages got. Born. Born identity another one for the it's that's a tough one to turn down. If you're walking by the living room, right tried to I tried to look for it the other day on all the straps, but it wasn't like available for free anywhere, and so I just watched like some fucking other stupid and I wanted to do is watch born day. No, the first one so good secondhand, but. Anyway, yeah, I mean so. Maybe they're just like by the way. You can speak. From fourteen alien languages right and you're like well. No, I can't. I failed Spanish twice as the romance languages French, sorry, sorry, but I mean. It's apples to apples like you're not passing Spanish, either, if French, twice probably not. I mean they're close enough. We know the evidence is there, but they're like? Yeah, but that's fine, but you can basically speak the alien equivalent of Mandarin or or Arabic, and you're like well. I mean again like there's no evidence. Book in front of me and I can and then I. Just start speaking, and I can't I can't believe it, but holy shared. Initially the way it goes is it comes out through like a stressor moment. you know to fire certain chemicals so maybe as part of their thing. I don't feel like they're especially. Tommy Lee, Jones I mean. Let's be honest about who who your who your partner slash. Boss of your mentor is here. He's not fucking around. He's just going to. Throw you in a room with an unchained alien terrorists and all of a sudden. You're going to be able to reason with this person. For Your Life with failing because you fear for your life right. Now you get a little. Yeah, now he like everything was pretty cool so far and now he's throwing me into a room with an alien. Sure because I think he's just like. Let's get this over with like I. Want to retire six weeks ago. You Know How all Smith isn't isn't around. What's that? Where's will? Know we'll get. He's got a different mentor. Yeah. No, no, some like some like middle aged to strong woman who's very much highly more highly ranked than than Tommy. Lee Jones Yeah I'm. Here I'm going to be honest. I think you're like the second or third one. The Tommy's gone through. Because of his issues or because of. Unforeseen circumstances it's not to say like you're not like third ranked, but your third the third attempt here and so he's pretty exasperated at this point. Well, you know what's great about being the third attempt. Is that means they're to fucking losers and I could be the first winner. Sure or he? Yeah I don't know that's that's a tough is true. You could be the first winter I mean. Maybe everybody doubts that there is new blood out there. That could possibly mentor someone. Who is there anybody that could possibly put up with him and learn from him, and maybe you are going to be the one that proved that like what what? Sort of lifestyle traits. Do you feel like you have? That would enable this partnership to be successful as you guys said off in your car spaceship for your first adventure because he's like. Listen no time to fuck around. Aliens, from Center I. You now sixty nine. Are, you know setting up shot a asteroid crater off the. Gulf of Mexico we gotta go down there. Like what wait! Could I just be okay with them? Blowing up the earth? What if if that's not GonNa? That's not going to help you. Pass your test. Yeah, fine I'll bring it up. Insiders at the that would be down with that, and maybe we could like sort of. You. Know make a mutiny happen, and instead of protecting the earth for to cycle, the Earth has fucking done and destroy it. I mean I'm part alien. There's probably another hole in it that I could go rhino they're. They're totally as I would say if that's the choice you're GonNa make I'm GonNa go ahead and. Let's assume for the. I'm not saying that I'M GONNA make this scenario that you choose to voice that opinion to the incorrect person. And now I would know not to do that. We're not going down that route. No, no, no I feel like you've made your choice so now. Unfortunately, it seems like we're in a pretty. Redundant position for Brian. Which is you now? Find yourself on the run. I'm always on the run. This is this is getting. I know it's unfortunate. I think there's still a chance you could earn it and you were just like I didn't know what to say. I said it to the wrong person, but for at least twenty minutes of the movie your. Mentor a movie is now chasing you down. Mean the movie of Your Life, sure so so seventy-three-year-old Timely Jones's chasing me down. I think I'm going to be fine Quinn I think we established. He's in the upper eighties, but also I mean I think that means he doesn't give a fuck like he's not. He's not checking to see the truth like he's just going to blow you away like the first two guys that didn't pass the test. Because for all they know you're in cahoots with these guys from centre-right sixty nine and we're trying to. Blow Florida which by the way to go get him I am not saying I. Don't feel the same way for all. Trying to kill me, too, so maybe I'm standing up for myself and I'm I'm I'm smart and up a little bit and I'm like Oh maybe I'm maybe my alien blood is the same aliens as center Terai. Sixty. Nine and they want anyone you know they. They WanNa stop me and so maybe I'm like no screw. This and I and I start getting into like a mental zone where the alien in me comes out and start realizing my abilities and skills and my powers, v. It's possible it's got elements of. You know it's got some elements like Avatar which is turn on your own people type of thing got it. Which is interesting? There's some colonialism mixed in there. Get past that for the moment. Oh, I guess it's reverse because you're not invading someone else's place, you're you're siding with the people who've come to blow irregardless. You're turning on your own people which happens I found a part alien than maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm standing up with my own my own people, maybe I have. Abel's sure sure. No, it's like yeah I. Mean it's like the whole star wars thing like. Right are are the rebels Al? Qaeda and Luke is like a terrorist essentially. You know. There's questions to be asked. That's all I'm saying so all right? You make your reason you're. You're catcher. They don't kill. Your shots are fired. Do you feel like? When it comes down to it and Tommy Lee Jones. Has You under the blaster? Are you. Going with the aliens, and what are they trying to do again? What do we feel? Like is their master plan. I don't know maybe they're just trying to become. Maybe they're trying to take over the galaxy. Too. So. Are you choosing them? Are You, are you? choosen humanity and keep in mind like. We're not just choosing to ask me to side with humanity for sure, but that means like leaving mom behind leaving girlfriend behind leaving me behind. I mean you're lucrative podcast job. All these things are going right out the window. I think you've gotta look at the big picture. You know there's always going to be a sacrifices. There's always going to be hard decisions that need to be made. And and when you have the some. Power in your hands. You Re really think about it. You can't. Oh, but everybody I love you know church. Don't have of time to think about right now. You're standing on the edge of the crater in Tommy's Tommy. Lease got the blaster on. You gotTA. Pick like Oh. It's my chosen are either. He's GonNa. Kill me or I'm GonNa going to say I side with the humans. Yeah Tommy can't have a third stain on his record at this point to be honest. Illustrious career. So. I'm going to say I'm going to say that. I side with the humans, then of course I'm an idiot. I'm going to stay alive. A fool his ask because he's old and senile and I'm going to take over when the time is right. Well, this has gone pretty insidious. I just I this whole time. I think I'm like sort of telepathically communicating with my people old people real people. That's a that's a power that we. I found it when I was finding Oh my powers and they're telling me. Telling me quite a different story about this a this. Confrontation between the humans and the central centurions. Saying that the mostly white humans total a false story about their history I know it's crazy to believe, but it's possible okay and so. I I feel like I'm acting. Ethically and I, don't I don't? I, don't feel bad. I don't feel bad. Okay, so you're willing to just cast cast it all behind leaving leaving I mean this basically just mom and girlfriend like you're gone. Wait what happened to you. Not Concerning I'm still I'm waiting to sign onto the podcast at that point wondering where you are. Slapping. than. Just slacking you and it just still says. Your notifications are muted and I'm like. How is he not awake yet? This is ridiculous. Thursday. Yep So. It'd be a pretty normal morning for you until. Okay, if it does, I don't know I I'm not saying you know I'm not saying I'M GONNA. That's going to happen. But if I learned some some things that a lot of people don't know, then you. GotTa make the tough the tough decision. sure sure. well listen I think this has been really illuminating Maybe we can pick up next time with you. Having left the planet. And sided with. What you have been told. Are, your real. Friends family race species. And, abandoning your your current ones. I had four other today in history topics. An hour an hour at thirty six minutes. Yeah. We'll save those for next time week. That for next year. What do you mean next time? I guess it doesn't really work that way. Does it? Add Our GIMME bullet points? We won't go down rabbit holes on them. Real quick nine hundred sixty four LBJ signs, the Civil Rights Act into law. It is both incredible and unbelievable in totally believable that you win with men in black over LBJ signing the civil. DuNno, it's because I appreciate A. Perfect segue. We were talking about movies so I went with. You what's next eighteen thirty nine mutiny on the? Oh my God. You're amazing next. 1937, earhart's plane is reported missing. We talked about a couple of weeks ago. We did we did. We did and lastly question. Do you think she's still alive? Even if she. No, she knows she wouldn't be alive even if she was actually. It could've been aliens. Do you believe the Bermuda Triangle? Burien. I saw a video today about where the two oceans meet to where the Atlantic and the Pacific meet, and they don't mix. Is that real it just. where she where she landed, she might be there. entrance to some sort of underwater homeowners type thing possible. This has been fun talk. We can dig in any those next time when it won't be this day in history and more of a different day in history we're. Brian covers up massive civil rights. In the name of million. Invasion I guess. Brent thanks for joining your gratitude today. What do you think for? Dreams? And thankful to be able to escape my life in a dream world for a few hours every night. What are you thankful for? I am currently thankful for. A token and the Lord of the Rings All Ten Thousand Times but I think we've discussed before that I. Exclusively Read Fiction at night these days the past few years, because it just is the best thing to turn my brain off and it I am the third of the way through two towers. You know for the hundredth time my life, but man. It's the great. The best you spend you go on the journey with everybody in the end up splitting up and then you're. Thinking all day. Like where are they? And what are they doing like? It's so consuming and so distracting. I look forward to it all day. It's the best gun bed at eight o five last night so I could That's awesome, do it? Yeah and it's just one of those things that I don't know. Maybe I'll just start this over again from the beginning when I finished because. Yeah so thankful for that for A. Man Fantasy fiction, the best Larry Cool all right, buddy. We will talk to everybody next week. We've some fun things coming with fun talk in the next month or so. and Yeah, we've got more to come so take care of everybody and have a great Rescue Week Goodbye. Goodbye.

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Dungeons and Dragons Movie Eyeing Spider-Man Writers to Direct - Movie Talk

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Dungeons and Dragons Movie Eyeing Spider-Man Writers to Direct - Movie Talk

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We're talking about the upcoming dungeons and dragons movie potentially getting a pair of directors and on top of that the lighthouse trailer. There's only one question when you walk away from that trailer with an it's come on together now. Why your bs all right? I'm glad we got that out of the way really early that it was the best introduction I could give to coy in Hailey. Thank you guys so much for joining me today. Are you guys excited as I am to talk about that trailer out after that Intro Intro I know really I'm glad we're already crushing. It and we're only admitted into the show. Why did you spill your bees and like we'll get into this later? But do we take that that question literally or does it mean something else. There's a whole bunch of questions I did walkaway from that trailer. Now go to the movie with an open. Half Open can can of beans because I always go to a theme food. I feel like that needs to be the press. Give away or like they have a like a press day and they have a buffet there in Kansas yeah beans and there looked like there was an octopus in the trailers of something like that could be in beams that medley often it goes together so well all right. Hopefully someone at eight twenty four is watching this episode and they take that pitch very seriously but first we have to talk about the new dungeons and dragons movies so today today deadline reported that this long-awaited adaptation is one step closer yet again to happening there sources claim that Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley are in discussions discussions to direct the film for paramount and also of course Hasbro's all sparked pictures so first off before we get to the question of will this ever even happened. Do you think that this duo is the right pair direct this one because of course things didn't pan out for them on the flash and now they've got a free schedule. This is another big franchise for them to sidestep step over to their nerds. They're invested and it's a good opportunity and I believe I believe invested nerds like. I think that this is the right move because the flash was a passion Ashen project. This sounds like it's a passion project. I don't know these guys but they've written really geeky stuff which leads me to believe if you're handed the keys to the Geeky kingdom you make sure it counts so I want someone that's going to be giving it their all and I feel like this is a great opportunity for them to prove themselves and I love the pacing and game night. I loved the world that built. I love that it was an ensemble which is important for dungeons and dragons you immediately. He cared about everyone and game night within the first act that way you're invested for the rest. You need that dungeons and dragons. I don't know if they can necessarily do the C._G._I.. That's necessary. I don't know how they handle like. The Z axis listen like framing for C._G._I.. But everything about their character and their heart all about it. I'm definitely into it. Also I was a big fan of game night and I just love the idea of doing a Dunton Johnson Dungeons and dragons adaptation period because obviously we've been waiting for it for a very long time now. There's so much story potential there but the wildcard for me here ear is more so the studios attached. I'm just curious because we all know that Disney is the job or not and all these other studios need to create these big epoch franchises to keep up with them and we don't really know all that much about all sparked pictures and what they're gonNa do with all those properties they have right now so if this is one of their first pictures going into production with that newly formed company company that to me is going to set the tone for what they're gonNa do thereafter so I think that's the thing that I'm curious about more than anything yeah. This is so out of my wheelhouse like a hundred percent not an expert on dungeons and dragons but I do really like those guys. I love game night everything you said I totally agree with and I love the fusion John of Genera in it. I'm all about the meeting points between genres and I it's. It's harder than I think people they take for granted how hard it is to make successful comedy. That's also we really good action movie which is what they did and they seamlessly sort of blended these two genres in a way that makes me as someone who doesn't know anything about all dungeons and dragons go well. What's that movie going to be like then? It's probably not going to be the straight up fantasy that you might have thought it would be a while back in one of its seven thousand other Tony Informs. It's that's extremely intriguing to me and I also I love Spiderman homecoming. They're writing on it. I know that was <hes> script with a lot of cooks in the kitchen so to speak but just anyone who's sort of touched that I'm already like yeah I wanna see your next thing you do exactly and I think this was a more more interesting announcement than say a Sam Ramey or a traditional to the world like say no to a salary. I hear your point. No what if we heard Sammer Aamir Peter Jackson have a clear vision that this show I have no idea and I think that's that's an exciting testament like give me a Peter Jackson. Whatever give me the same Ramey anything but this duo with this property is way more like that also hailing the way you explain their work a little bit just in terms of like? We don't know what it's going to be. They do a great job blending genres. That's kind of what we have to do right now to capture the widest possible audience if they're able to I mean that's what we were talking about yesterday with it. I think that is a phenomenal hit because yes it's a good horror movie but it's also got a really sweet coming of age story that borderlines of drama in a sense then really can capture the attention of so how many people out there whether you're a horror fan not so the challenge here is not going to be to sell this movie to Dungeons and dragons fans but to sell it to everybody else as well and I'm not the giant Dungeons and dragons fan that I am comic fan but the worlds intersect a lot a lot of the same people like a lot of the same stuff so I know people that are invested in this world and they're so invested look at critical all right now. Look at the world that's being built because of the popularity of role playing It's the best time to make this wants to play. He's still wanted to play wizard. Just let him play. I think this is a good time for whatever studio makes it to make it because it's in the cultural zeitgeist. It's very common you don't say D._N._B.. And have a negative connotation right now. You're like Oh. Tell me more so I couldn't agree with you more but we still have to bring up that question in of is this ever going to happen because this project has been in circulation for so long we obviously had Chris Mckay previously attached and at that point we were busy saying oh well appeased attached. It could really happen this time. We're basically in the same position right now. So do you think that this is the team. That's actually going to bring this project. Through to the finish line or now for their sake I hope so t I just keep hearing their names attached to the stuff which means the right people know them which means the right people are listening. I just want to see the next next thing they do because I keep hearing them on their next thing and then it dissolves so I'd like to think it is also. I think that now is the time to strike so hopefully the studios more apt opt. They can't be thinking while the iron tossed so maybe I think it's maybe good for this project. That transformers has taken a downturn downturn downward a bit in terms of box office return and stuff like that point <hes> because that company is in need of some sort of nostalgia fueled I._P.. That people fuller guaranteed to show up for that's a good sign for the project that said there have been many many many many versions of it so who really knows but I agree. I WANNA see what they're doing next and just like there aren't enough big weird epoch fantasies anymore right now. I mean not anymore they happen but usually they go the route of like Jupiter ascending where people are not super into it or it's it's almost there but not quite and I I would love to see a total fantasy home run and I even I I enjoy Jupiter ascending. I enjoy warcraft but I really do I Jupiter sending hitting a certain streaming service soon and I saw that report going around today and I will that one one to me is the perfect thing to earn the guilty pleasure to watch Eddie Redman in that movement just all day on loop one of the show skis right before that the one that was like the music were like the emotions transition. The True Hangs Outlet Cloud Atlas. I love so much and to me. That was the fantasy movie I was like. Things are going to change in a press screening and then I went opening night. This is it and then by Saturday I was like Oh. No everyone disagrees so I've been wanting that for. I want like legend with Tom Cruise Bruce. I want one of those kind of movies to come back and we're in this eighty s new stall obsession. Now's the time well. You were there comecon when I did my dark crystal interview riots. I walked walked away from that interview like a full out believe or they've got something special in that and I'll tell you I was extremely skeptical walking into that conversation but that's it's another fantasy project that I really believe right now. I totally agree that interview was great and their investment was like there was shining out and it got you different approaches to yourself. All your questions lead led to the next excitement. I watched that interview live going like it was like one of the busiest assignments I got the entire on. Thanks to that team. We have a question we should take from the live chat here from Chris Crawford and nothing fantasy related but something about this duo here. Would you all like to see a game night sequel. I would be fine with that as would I think that's a concept you could play out numerous ways. You don't even have to bring back the same cast of you. Don't want to focus it on. It's the concept I think that worked so well. Well so heck yeah. I would in a heartbeat I think like Jumanji showed me that you can reinvent things and have it be really special and I think game night you could ever be a different type of game each time. You could have a different ensemble. Zomba cast like I definitely would wanNA see more. I Miss Action comedies like lethal weapons my franchise premiums a you and I need that flavor in my life well actually think about what if it was like game night met escape room and it was an escape game night but with a comedic spin to it that aired by two glad we're both on the same page that all right all right guys we are going to have to move on soon to the lighthouse trailer which we're all very excited about but before we get there. We've got some content coming to the channel to tell you about here. Is Amy for Heroes Heroes. Hi I'm amy down one of the hosts of Collider Heroes and starting right now you can catch our show at a new time and format. We're coming at you. Tuesday Day nights with a new shorter Collider Heroes Hendaye longer collider heroes podcast where coin I are going to talk your ear off. You already know that's coming so make sure to go to you. Subscribe and find us on the Collider Heroes podcast feed for all of that sweaty goodness in addition to collider heroes. I will also urge you to keep an eye out for a Hobson Shaw Movie Review which is dropping tomorrow and then on top of that. We've got some fun coverage with the Rock Jason State Them Idris Elba and the rest of the cast and you're gonna be able to find that on the main channel later this week if you want some more content for immediately after movie talk. Haley and I did a new episode of the witching hour and it's a big one because we had the nightingale Gal and the Bobby Duke Director Jennifer Kent on the show and she is a dream. She's a lease that conversation. That was just like such a life. I I have the same problem right now. I'm obsessed with her and I might have dropped a little too much money on the Babovic book. I know I know I bet whoever Robert Hobson shower review is twitching. They've been thinking about the movie for two weeks and they might have really loved it and they might be going to the press green again tonight but they've been wanting to tell the world how much they did or did not enjoy it so they should walk to that tomorrow. I have no clue what you're talking about wings for the next story before we bury ourselves into deep of a hole this right now is the lighthouse house trailers so it's an eight two thousand four film and it's from the Director of the witch Robert Eggers Robert Pattinson and Willem dafoe are in this movie is two lighthouse keepers living on a remote a new England island so I don't know what specifics to start with here so I'm just GonNa ask you guys first impressions of the Lighthouse based on this trailer. Yes yes really my jam. I'm obsessed with this trailer. I kinda knew I would be based on the early reviews and stuff and I love of the witch. I love what Robert Egger did with the witch but people kept in the early reviews when it premiered. I don't remember what Film Festival but can I think that sounds right and then I think next accept tiff to lucky people referring to Harold Pinter who's one of my favorite playwrights and I'm like a die hard for absurdist theater so if you say Harold Pinter is like touchstone for a film I will immediately buy ten tickets. I can't wait to watch this over and over and over again and I listened to the <hes> eight two thousand four podcast with our astor and Robert eggers very interesting but also our astor was like this reminds me of Harold Pinter so basically I.. I am just this films number one girl right now. I need this kind of movie to balance out all the shiny movies I watch like for for my job. It's all superhero stuff south and genre stuff and Barat films that are super approachable so I need like just like you know patents and needs to play Batman so we can make another ten of these. I as a viewer of content really want weird shit so I can't wait for this movie because it made me go like what every five seconds and I you know I'm from New England and any Irish anti song is going to get me excited and everything about this trailer made me confused in the most enticing way and I love the frame they use of the standard sixty-nine. I I loved it. It looks like a piece of a time period. That doesn't necessarily exist. I really got invested very quickly and I'm a huge patents and fan so I'm excited to have more and more the opportunities to go. This is why you're wrong. He's not just twilight so this movie amazing so here's still saying that you're just not watching his movies happen. This is another well. No I'm excited to have another comma of like another one because everyone that came out of twilight has done a lot of incredible work. Katherine Hardwick Lords of dog town is so slept on watching Ching that like two days ago grew enhanced. I can watch that movie on repeat over and it's such a piece of the time because she builds world so well and everyone associates anyone for that movie with just that movie to me. This is going to be a great example of look what else and Willem Defoe. I mean Oh of course not that's an assumed great. Let's not not bring up uh-huh Willem dafoe follow up for you that kind of pertains to <hes> I guess rubber pants and as well I though you touched on one of the things that caught me by surprise the most in this trailer is that maybe within seconds of it starting does have such a distinct. Lok that we're not used to seeing so much right now. Which is why I was blown away by how how quickly I got accustomed to it and how quickly it felt right to me and that bodes well for maybe having a wider viewership open up their lives to a movie movie like the like the Lighthouse. I know that eight twenty four movies don't necessarily say four quadrant appeal big bucks at the box office but with this one having its candy. Byu hitting tiff having someone like Willem Dafoe who was on the Oscar circuit last year having an incredible actor Robert Pattinson who could have a nomination in the near future sure. Do you think that the lighthouse is the kind of movie that could do it especially because when the witch I hit theaters that whole year was even though it didn't get nominations nations. It was constantly talking about it. It's on end of the year list. Is this the next thing along those lines. I think so I think that a twenty four and Anna Purna are the two studios that I see anything. They do. <hes> no matter what it is I am they're opening weekend and I'm the exception to the rule for movies whereas I see everything but I think that those two studios were the most host full of the houses when I went to them. I think those those those universes are being well built in this actually reminded me of mid Nineties which was one of my favorite movies last year and it also did the frame rate the the Laura Lords of dog town by the nineties back in the game but I think that movie was super approachable. How Weird of the movie it was that was a slice of life movie much like dazed and confused where it was just like here's a movie and I really needed that especially right now with a blockbuster coming in every two weeks. This doesn't look like that at all. This looks like holy crap. This could never happen but you don't know why can never happen. What even is it and I liked the surrealistic approach till like what movies can be like the extremes they can be taken in and if any the movie is going to be this weird and still sell. It's a movie with this cast. I could see it. I don't know about selling. I'm not sure we'll see I hope so. I just don't that's a weird trailer man. Yeah I do think awards though maybe especially for Willem Defoe whose love legend and a lot of awards attention whenever he really goes for a base exactly in one of the good things about award season is if you're in the mix then it could encourage you to see. It's a hopefully that all comes full circle as well but you bring up that it was a weird trailer so I'm GonNa go to a live from planet Sophia. Who's asking an honor. The lighthouse trailer named the most bizarre trailer. You have seen anything that's that's well finally obvious answer. This conversation is over. That's pretty much yeah. You just threw down the guy ever seen anything now that we're now that was surreal journey and I was like why how who Colin calm which is already a weird like everything about about that experience to drop it to yeah but it worked man. Everybody was talking everywhere. I went COMECON. Everyone was humming or singing memory. It was this year's Fuck Tuck Batman. Yes insurance f-bomb twice on this show and excellent stop swearing like twenty five times on this show eighteen zero ever runs youtube now. I'm sorry ooh it's okay. It's okay sorry everybody out. There who is underage is all right. We're GONNA move on because I want to get to another. Live live check question because there was a story. We couldn't fit on the lineup today and I wanted to get to it so so badly. Zeno our is asking US thoughts on the hunt trailer. In which movie are you more excited about the hunt hunt or ready or not. Oh interesting yeah. I'm I'm really excited for. Both I am too. That's the second part is very hard but the first part is very easy which is that. I was so impressed trailer. I don't know I I had done one of those stupid things. Where you kind of get a picture in your head before you see it and you're like I don't know if that's going to be for me and I loved it. I was totally wrong. I didn't realize that Craig's Novell's directing for one and I really like his films compliances brutal. Yes <hes> Z.. For soccer is very good good man in television. I've been freaking blown away by his work. He did the Shogun world episode of Westworld and he did two episodes that I consider consider two of the best episodes of television ever which I'm going to go to my notes because I will get it wrong on the leftovers international assassin and the most powerful man in the world and his identical twin brother which are truly truly like in my top ten list for television so so released there was no f words in those and into court. You'RE GONNA go see the hunt. Absolutely I'm once again. It's counter programming so I need things balance out all of all of the <hes> you know the similar and the weird properties are getting better and I think that the age we're living allows for it because it's cheaper to make movies like digital helped us in such a way that film couldn't make. If these movies and now editing and the access to the culture is so much more broad so these are examples of movies. I don't know if they could have existed before now. My dream come true who would see would be seeing the hunt added to the TIFF lineup. I dislike my picturing universal emblem house filling that Halloween gap from last year so I'm just like I have my fingers crossed for some sort of studio horror release making its debut at two now you've got me like but what about fantastic fest. You never know. That'd be a real good. I'm just saying it'd be a real good fit. I'm really excited to see Betty Gilpin in a lead role she is I mean she obviously she is a co lead on on glow. Oh and she's great in that but while we were waiting for the mar see this is one of the coolest things about waiting for the marvel panel at San Diego Comic Con is that they do oh. I'm going to say now. I'm going to say another other. Curse words kick ass panel Hayward woman but she was was that whole group on that panel is great but she in particular it was just hysterical like her. Her takes were so heartfelt and genuine but just her delivery very was so spot on and I really can't shake some of the stuff she was saying so it just got me thinking obviously we're going to see her and more glow but give Betty Gilpin another also because I've stupor on the brain right now and she only has a little bit of screen time in that movie but she makes the most of it so just to see her end like the end of that trail when she's going up against Hilary Swank. I'm sad you spoil that in the trailer but yes give me that scene I agree with that panel was great to introduce me to people whose work I didn't necessarily know and see them in a new lightman see them as people instead of their roles because it made me like I did some googling shaping of narratives around their personalities and perspective. It was the perfect panel before so nobody dared choose choose either the hunter ready or not. I WANNA see I dare not if I if if I was placed in a dangerous scenario like one of those films and force that weapon point to choose I think I'd have to go the hunt because of the leftover collect connections because Damon Lindelof also helped writing and creative but Samara weaving infrequent thing she works she is something else I would say the hunt and for the same reason of the whole H. Panel actually I hadn't even put that I couldn't remember why I was so like oh now. I know she's great all right. Let's see if we can get one more question before we have to tune out Lewis. E dil opinions asking if you could play D._N._D.. With any movie star who would it be who I'M GONNA keep it on trend and say Robert Pattinson just because he seems fun as heck to hang out with okay any any movie star who I bet would build worlds really well and people wouldn't give him credit for us. It'd be like the sleeper village Brad Pitt I feel I feel like his imagination. Nation is waiting to be untethered. He always has like really quick each charismatic responses to stuff and he's just so rad. I believe anyone can make deemed the awesome. It's Brad Pitt too so so I know that Joe Manganiello Plays D._N._D.'s. I would choose him because he knows his stuff and same thing with vin diesel because that was the inspiration for the last witch hunter so he's on my list too but I was. I have this habit. Now I go when I listened to old <hes> interviews at Howard Stern did and Mila Kunis was on a while. They're loading the first bad mom's movie and at one point of the interview she mentioned that she played world of warcraft a lot like obsessively so now I think of her as a Gamer with that kind of content so I think she'd be a blast to play with to seems really fun line play pretty much any games this interview. She really does sound like one of the cools human beings out there to people that I'd be I'd WanNa play with just because I have no idea how they handle it or Ben Foster Mr 'cause I love his like he's just always ready and then and for the same reason Joseph Gilgen Iowa's I want people that are like a accompany edge like I like to play games like I want someone. WHO's like a time bomb waiting to happen so I wanNA know what a company edge playing Indian DELEK now? I'm trying to think of someone along with Ben Mendelsohn to me fun. He would just be entertaining year time. ooh Tommy Lee Jones because it'll be like how much we miss the new or your engine flags the whole time Jones to narrate Tommy Lee Jones be cantankerous Ben Foster to be the wildcard and Brad Pitt's make a cool the gold make all this happen and we'll film it at some point in the future. It's never but that was going to make about guys. Thank you so much for joining me on this Tuesday Adam. I'm in the booth door eight in the live. Chat you guys rock. Thanks for your hard work into everybody out. There is always liken. Show this episode of Collider movie talk then tune back in tomorrow's three PM t live for a brand new one now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the Dominion Energy Reliability Investment. 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416 - Operation: Gauido (5/4/20)

Chapo Trap House

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416 - Operation: Gauido (5/4/20)

"Yeah okay Greetings friends. Hello it's Chapo back at it kicking off this week. My steamed co-hosts Matinee Emperor joining me as always Questions to begin this week so I'm just going to open up to the floor here have you now or have you ever let down our beautiful boaters. Never never never wouldn't think would you? Would you even consider such a thing? Strike me down before God before I ever let down our beautiful voters. You're going to have to explain this one to me. That sounds like someone who's been letting down our beautiful vote. Obviously if you're not even aware that there are beautiful boaters rises. It raises the question that you might have been letting them down this whole time. I'm not saying I never claimed to not be negligent of voters beautiful. Or otherwise how? She's admitting otherwise. Or how a role model? I don't we might have to have a discussion. This is this is brutal first of all. I JUST WANNA get just officially as like show policy. Show statement before for the angry tweets and emails start coming in all voters are beautiful absolutely and I respect them all and I would never let any of them down the voters in particular that formed in our modern to support our president and the lockdown that have mistreated. They're they're exceptionally gorgeous. Beautiful beautiful we love the boaters revokes. We Love Them. The beautiful mb the voters think refers to a missive from our president. This Week said thank you very much to our beautiful boater. It's I will never let you down and it it. It concluded video clip of the of the boater Armata. Yeah Harry s beloved art. We folks we love our beautiful boaters. All I can think though is just like they got the right idea. I want to be on a boat. Oh boating is the way to go to imagine it is sort of socially distant you know true blood on your boat are people that you live with and you've already quarantining with boating with strangers. I'm not a slut. How dare you even suggest such a thing? Yeah Natalie Wood over here I. I like to imagine trump hanging out on one of those boats because they're fine boats but he is not a Boltzmann. Certainly I can't imagine him enjoying working on on on on on like one of those you know a what are they called like crafts. I don't know boats. Whatever those things are those little those little To a party about like there's a webber grill was a bunch of cold hot dogs on it and there's a cooler full of lukewarm. Pbr HE WOULD BE IN HELL. He would not enjoy at all. It wouldn't be luxurious enough for him now. He I don't even think though he would like like a yacht he would be like. It's moving too much wind. I don't know I think you're probably just have to own one as a as a result wants to be a beautiful voter but I hated it. Parenthetically the yacht he owned was once owned by Richard. Just lay maximum father and the that he mysteriously disappeared off the edge of after he got found out to be a crook and a Israeli super spy. That's not true. I mean Robert Maxwell contract when I said earlier I mean not a beautiful voter. He was not the most beautiful of voters are more beautiful boaters to be filed that Robert Maxwell I mean he was certainly let down by and Massad. Yeah I am I six yes the P two lodge all those guys they really let Robert Maxwell Anyway Just just kicking things off this week. just supporting our nation's beautiful beautiful boaters like I said they're out there to support the president and to end this lockdown. What I get when I get grabbed by some of execution squad of dirty landlubbers and they put me up against a brick wall. I will say to them before they pull the trigger. I regret that I have but one life to give for the beautiful boaters. Well I mean this was a like I said. This is an armada of beautiful boaters. That was Organized to support the president and to protest the you know ongoing a tyranny of quarantine conditions being imposed on them on the big government trump is in charge of Like you know the thing is. I don't know if you guys noticed this weekend. Here in New York and finally got warm out was like seventy five this weekend and I feel like we. I don't know as a culture just sort of unilaterally decided to just give up on social distancing quarantining and whatnot or at least just really half acid from this point out and like wellspring of like authentic on a second. No you idiot well. People are taking their cues from government. That says it's realized that if it wants to keep the market's going it's going to have to create a situation where people are more comfortable with much higher levels of fatality than there used to nine eleven every day has to be sort of normalized and I do love the idea that Republicans that Republicans are are saying. Yeah nine eleven every day. That's actually good and not only that they're like they're justifying it by saying well look if these people are over sixty so it's not as big tragedy if like you're not even supposed to be there like they weren't really people but it's like that's it yet your your of your past a certain age. It's sort of like it's like when Rahm Emanuel with or no Zeke Emanuel was saying the other week you know it's just sort of like it's not as big a tragedy if you die because you know you're closer to the end and the way and it's not like you know it's like a beautiful beautiful boy onto beautiful boat where it's just dropping dead in the prime of his vote in career. We wouldn't want that to happen. Well I it's a dehumanisation process that you use everywhere I mean that's how you justify something like having the most prisoners in the world. They deserve to be there now. You have a situation where the economy doesn't function by market principles unless we're out shopping and dropping dead much larger numbers than we used to be so they have to be in that same that to the same degree of non people as like prisoners. But they're less than and that in our mind is what makes it okay that now they're dying and we're not doing anything about it. I don't that people have dehumanized or like are they think that that's an acceptable level of death or whatever. I think like prisons. This is a very. This is a a situation where a lot of people don't have to think about it because it's not in front of them aren't bodies in the streets. Most people don't know someone who died of code yet that might change like this is something that's largely out of sight out of mind right and that's what I'm saying is that that is being built so that when it becomes real the horror will have less fortunate because we will have to humanize to the extent that now it's acceptable. Because as John Cornyn said. Look they're fat and old anyway? Which is hilarious coming from a guy who's rest of his career is about saying actually the Stuffing your face with corn. Slurry until your heart. Pops Your Son's Fiftieth Birthday Party. That's actually American free minutes finest and you are wrong for looking down on it now because the threatens the market actually. Those behaviors are signs of sin. And you deserve God's judgment for participant participating in them and it's the same behavior and it's the same like pre existing condition but at one point. It was something that helped the market function because people were out going to Texas roadhouse and they were They were ATV now. They need to go back out there and so some of them are just going to have to take one for the team. And you know this is not idle speculation. This is courtesy of the New York Times just today. It says the trump administration projects about three thousand daily deaths by early June. Yeah that's that's a nine eleven eleven ever did okay we own. We had hot girl summer. Now it's going to be summer of you guys make it happen. Let's hall. I'm coining right now. It's summer of death. As president trump presses for states to reopen their account of his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of cases and deaths from Corona virus over the next several weeks reaching about three thousand daily deaths on June first according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times nearly double from the current levels of about one thousand seven hundred fifty the projections based on modeling by the Centers for Disease Control and prevention full together in a chart or eleven pulled together in part by the Federal Management Agency to go fiba. I guess that's what they're doing the job Brownie. Can you put that in chart form forecast accuracy? Giving you can give me a chart that forecasts quote about two hundred thousand new cases you today. By the end of the month up from twenty five thousand cases now the numbers underscore a sobering reality while the United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks not much has changed and reopening. The economy will make matters worse. There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow the CDC Warren the projections infirm. The primary fear of public health experts that are reopening of the economy will put the nation right where it was. In mid March. When cases were rising so rapidly in some parts of the country that patients were dying on Gurneys and hospital hallways as the healthcare system grew overloaded. So yeah pretty much aware of it. And I don't mean like I like you should not there is no like actual ground swell of support flow reopening the look at the polls on this question. It's like if you phrase it like Should we reopen the economy? Like you know given the current state of of where we're at with this virus in our public health system People like six percent of people say yes yes definitely. Let's do that. And of course like the people at the you know the the protests at the capital's and stayed buildings and whatnot They're getting a lot of the coverage but I think like the the push to open up the economy again and get everyone back at era eating at the bad food. They loved the much Jacob. Backtrack that Is only comb economy to rope back because you know this is their money. They own it. A lot of people really want to go back to work right but I'm just I'm just saying like it. I'm just looking at the opinion polls. I've seen like if you said. Yeah sure people WANNA go. Yes yes safely they do. Yeah Yeah Ask. People are saying fuck it. Let's be less pressure to open the exactly. What I mean is like the pressure to open the economy back up again even knowing full well and among themselves and it will mean three thousand people dying day. Yeah there's any big fucking appetite among average normal Americans. It'd be like yeah. That sounds like a good deal to me. Like let's compare well. Yeah but it's a leading indicator but it really shows like public opinion is just a lagging indicator of what they're going to choose to do anyway because we have so little participation in it like these people are bored in their matter. Yeah they're bored and they're mcmansions so they can go drive their boats around in a circle or carry their air fifteen like a big baby bottle in front of the State House it. It's just a Tantrum. It's just like I expect a certain amount of comfort and ease in my life as an American and now I don't have it. This isn't the country that I expect it to and my presidents in charge. What the fuck they have to transfer that to anger at state governments but it's just them dealing with frustration. The thing that's GonNa make them do. This is that the economy doesn't work without the price inputs of people going in and working from the point of view of retail. Because it's a service economy. We have to have people serving and being served for the American economy economic flow of money and goods to work. So we have to. We could change that. We have the computing power to war communism for under code but that would undermine the markets too much in the long term so like we have to reopen it's inevitable because there's no countervailing political force among people to say no so that's going to happen and these people these these guys don't mean they don't represent an actual number of people but they represent an inevitability basically. Yeah Yeah and you know I. I think it's funny because I mean I know this is like the The oldest half like easiest hack trick in the book to do but I mean if if anything except like tip your cap to it like if the situation reverse Republicans can get probably thirty percent of this country like insanely mad about like one undocumented immigrant like showing someone in a drunken driving accident. That's like one person. And they're like they're like okay like we need to move heaven and earth and use like the mighty. The states like stop even one person from dying because like an undocumented person hit them with their car or something or Maroon Adam but now they're just saying yeah like three thousand people all right. Let's do it not like that's manageable. That's okay and it just I don't know Can I mean could could something someone like an opposition party or someone running for president like make more of an issue out of the fact that they're just literally telling everyone you would need an alternative? Though is the thing you would need to say. Not just we should stay indoors because we know what that means that means more job losses more disruption of people's ability to stay housed and stay fed and stay safe. You need to say we stay indoors and we provide direct provision of stuff. And we're doing bi and we're like track tracing you have to have an alternative if the question is stay where we are and have the economy collapse or go out and accept three thousand deaths a day. That is the rational choice between those two options because the other one will lead to even more I in a relatively short term even more human misery there has to be not just at the level of we should stay indoors that is not the relative relevant question. The relative question is okay. If we're GONNA stay indoors. How do we keep feeding ourselves? How do we keep the lights on? How do we keep things running? And that is a question that demands answers that no political formation of any kind of influence in this country is in a position to to make. Yeah I think you got it exactly right and like the fact that there's not like in my you know. People are not clamoring to expose themselves to this disease so they can go back to work or whatever or like if there weren't alternative they'd be in favor of that but I just think like whether it's articulated or not. I think people just sort of have realized now that this is going on like three months and like looked at the experiences of other countries that like oh well we blew our chance to do anything. Meaningful might stop this thing or what save lives so we're just like fuck it like because we all most people in our country is not South Korea capable of doing the level of testing or you know like indicative a handle on flattening this curve. Just going to be like well look. We can't have it. It's not gonNA happen so we might as well just accept it. It has broadly divided into two groups of people. There's one group of people who do believe that politics changes anything because they've never seen a change anything in their life and so for them like there's no political dimension to this it's just something to survive and then there are the people who do think politics matter but who have mostly for the vast majority of people on both sides of the partisan divide have made it entirely symbolic and emotional thing like it's all and so what that means is that when things are bad like this. They assume for the They also they have the same assumption. That things can't be fixed that people who don't believe politics matter have but for different reasons. The person who doesn't think politics matters of course they're not GONNA fix it they're politicians they have vested interests. That are going to keep this happening to do the things that would make things better would violate too many other principals they hold but if you are invested in politics and think they matter I mean you have to like basically delude yourself to some degree because of how little politics actually has changed your life so in that put those people they blame the other side of the divide liberals think we can't have nice things because trump's in charge and trump people think we can't do it because of the evil governors who are trying to undermine trump. Everyone is in agreement in agreement. Basically that there can be no improvement but for different reasons. Some of them are closer to reality than others. Honestly the more to which you're invested in politics the less likely you are to understand what is actually making it so that we can't fix anything but the fact that we can't fix anything is true is being observed by everyone just filtered through a different. Lens and you know and and if you accept that that like in America is just not the type of country that can get you know do things anymore or is really interested in helping people or you know like doing like I said doing the kinds of things and other countries have done like get a handle on us. And if that's the case and you're not gonNA get any relief from the government other than like twelve hundred dollar check then fuck. It was just go back. Can We? We're going to go back to our restaurants and bars and being able to go outside because like you know this shit people. I mean it's driving everyone insane. Yeah Yeah No. People are losing their minds. This is not good. The only people who are enjoying this are psychopathic antisocial. People like people are not wrong for rag nizing that this is not merely an inconvenience. It's like psychologically and socially corrosive and you're watching like whatever different businesses closed down every day is a decline in it is upsetting to be a part of the really sad part. Is that when we do? Inevitably get forced backout by. I the need for to collect a paycheck like those poor people who are forced now in like basically a gun point in states like Georgia to work in their fifty percent capacity allowed restaurants that nobody is going to eventually fail because an aunt the margins on restaurants are so small anyway idiotic but the thing is is that the pressure. That's going to bring everybody else out eventually is just boredom as amber said. There's just GonNa get to caged and they're gonNA say fuck it. I'm not probably going to die. And then that means what what. What's most insidious about that? Is that then what's going to happen? People are going to be start dying. They're going to be dying in the streets and most people are going to blame other citizens or some percentage gonNA put all the blame on themselves and other people instead of the system that demanded them come back out because it refused to change or or China. I think that's a lot of a lot of thank God for China to be the vent for all of this like everyone. Has this cognitive DISAPP- Everyone is dealing with this degree of cognitive dissonance of living in the greatest country in the world. The can't handle a a a relatively something that should have been not gotten this bad and they have different ways to explain. It and China is a very helpful way to vent off any cognitive dissonance about this happening. In what's supposed to be a great country or the greatest country? Have you noticed? The people like that are very insistent on not believe in gleaming China's numbers and their ability to fly out on the curb almost always liberals and I realize that like first of all. Why are you still talking about China? Shut up but I've realized that they have the same attitude towards a pandemic that I do towards ballet class. Where just go in and I just? My goal is to not be the worst person in the class. So we're watching. Cheetah and just being like we've completely given up the liberals anyway have given up on the idea of reducing death Beyond like basically personal consumer choices the only thing they want now is for more people to have died in than America so that they don't feel embarrassed to mean I I I think the I think that's probably the the right wingers though. I love talking about China. It's it's a great enemy and also they're like that it's communist as well communist show and it's a it's a tactic. I will work beautifully because I mean I. I saw this just the other day that there is like you know like actual memo among like trump surrogates and Conservative messengers. Or whatever for when they go on. Tv and are confronted with any of the horrible record of trump's response to this crisis they just immediately ignore that and just start talking about China and just like a Red China is covering it up and read. China is responsible for spreading disease in the first place if not outright manufacturing it in like a weapons lab and releasing it to like tank the global economy and her trump's reelection chances like. I think that that's how they're going to talk about it and I. I honestly think it's GonNa work. I mean to a degree. It's a question of the degree. Yeah but I mean like I. I don't think it will work with everyone. It's fairly obvious they're doing but like I think you're right in that like there's this there's going to be at. Some point is just like huge reservoir of people's anger at the situations that they emerge from Corinthian finding themselves in it or are in right now and that that anger is GonNa need to go somewhere and it's going to need to be expressed in some way and obviously if people have given up on you know blaming the government or their own country like China is not perfect. Fucking Shit Matt. Stoler just got a fucking little heart on their thinking about this because I mean that there is a real. There's a real possible scenario where this thing had does enough damage at his destabilizing enough at a social level. That war with China is basically the only re stabilizing choice that the government could make some sort of escalated conflict with China to draw away the social pressure because otherwise the liberals are the the the all. Those guys are going to be like. These damn libs are the reason. I can't go back and going to start doing something as someone's going to start doing something because if things get bad enough so that's the question really and that's what we don't know and that's why it's so hard to just sit on the knife edge and wait to see which direction we fall off of. Well I mean I I. It's it's It's it's very dark and think about what I don't want to believe it too much on a talk show. I've actually I've actually prepared some good news. Oh my God that exists. What is this okay so this is just to maybe a little a little sorbet a little cleanser for all the all the bad news in the world. And I'm glad you feel has joined us for this one because I think you guys are going to like this. One Headline Ex Green Beret. Lead failed attempt to oust Venezuela's Maduro. Oh yeah no I You guys are very cool character. Yeah I'm reading this is from Christy. The AP it says here. The plan was simple but perilous. Some three hundred heavily armed volunteers would sneak into Venezuela from the northern tip of South America. Along the way they would raid military bases in the socialist country and ignite a popular rebellion. That would end in. President. Nicolas minutes. We're I gotta get a Deja Vu. This is reminding me of something. Some sort of event that happened at a beach somewhere involving an animal some animal. I don't remember some sort of livestock. I can't wait for the trump Oliver Stone's JFK movie. We're just like did like the war of a sexual gag is a good age sexual gay guys and the bad ones yes. The it's just a bunch of the bad guys are are just bronze. Tommy Lee Jones is standing at the beach but sort of the good guys who also also are that. They're so that every everyone is like that. Everyone is nonspecific. Everyone everyone is just an old bitchy queen. Like Bob Hoskins is J. Edgar Hoover in Nixon Other Oliver Stone movie. That's terrified of Gay People. You know it's like the bad guys will be. Tommy Lee Jones dressed like the Roman God mercury and the good guys will be Tommy Jones just in a very leaning forward at a very awkward to cigarette weirdly with the holder and the difference. The difference between the two in deep state guys who are like that and the good guys. We're like that is like the guys hate Graydon Carter Afri- rest off your Bernie is dog shit hated. There's a twenty minute just like Dante's inferno asks tour of just the Hell World of Grape Carter Oscar party. It's the picket just nightmare. Imagery like James. Jesus Angleton is. We HAVE TO KEEP GREETING CARD WITH AUTHOR. Party a secret his. Who's actually she served neutering there. It was a huge embarrassment. The deep state at the high had to hide it. That's why we have to SAS INNATE. The president and because it's Oliver Stone. This'll be the greatest harder. Oscar party sequence will be Sort of like Interspersed with edited in footage of the massacre that famous photo of the Vietnamese child running from Napalm attack at don't forget homoerotic weightlifting try clips from trying for the will and then like a few clips of like sort of like a native American rain. Dance ceremony a stone has done a lot for the native American community but just randomly putting them in movies and being like. Oh Do you think about that? The royalties from all the all the other film reels. He had another dead. Sheriff said all right so going on here from the fill that this Sort OF PSEUDO Bay of pigs operation here it says. The ringleader of the plot is now jailed in the US on narcotics charges. Oh wait are you. Are you telling Seattle? Wait a minute. Why led to believe all shady right-wing mercenary that we've employed to overthrow a socialist government in south. America is also involved in drug traffic at. Does that make sense now brother now? I've seen everything is now in jail in the. Us On recovered circus authorities in the US in Columbia are asking questions about the role of his muscular American advisor. A former green beret. This is the guy I love. Yeah Yeah Pete Ponderosa overhear Yes Tiger Camp James L. Right. This is my favorite detail here. It says Sawyer. James You didn't go with James L. Soy It was right there. You just left it on the ground. You picked it up though. So that worked out is it. Here's making retailer says. Dozens of desperate combatants who flocked to secret training camps in Colombia. Said they have been left to fend for themselves amid the corona virus. Spend them joyner right. Wing Death Squad and then you don't even get PD. I mean what the fuck do we do? We care about nothing. We value nothing anymore. Reunion former union. And then I'll blow each other's brains out commits suicide after joining a union. That's yeah well then. Just join one of those. Grad student unions very similar. You're the failed attempt to start. An uprising collapsed under the collective. Wait a skimpy planning feuding among opposition politicians and the poorly trained for us. It's the little chance of beating Venezuelan military. You are not going to take out Maduro with three hundred. Hungary and trade men said effort mottos a former. Us Navy Seal. Who trained some of the would be combatants? And since I it well okay well. That's you're saying you're not going to take out Madero with all these untrained men says the guy who trained them Gerbil dude look whole. That's a real cell phone there. Have you been considering that this particular ex green beret has only been only been up for four hours? His back hurts. This is very very lepore will degree Barade- the Green Beret into the story is just like awesome. He's just making it Sayed Law. He's he's just an insane liar. But the guy we just talked to is a navy seal so we can presume that during the time the navy seal is supposed to be training the defenders. He was just like literally just pickpocketing. Because there's nothing. The navy seal loves more than Larceny. Brave LOVE LOVES LYING IN LINE. Usually murdered by seals. When they uncover their crimes raise green beret. Show up Greenbury show with a war zone and they're like the continuation of the Great. I am yeah and and then they instantly die. Walk in I walk into the wrong tent. And there's three Baby seals with a bunch of blood that they stole from their fellow soldiers. They're going to sell on the black market and they're like. Oh we're going to murder you now. They're like what what some lucky if they're unlucky day like just literally just call in a fucking F sixteen straight on themselves. Dimopoulos calls the three hundred thermometer. Yeah the navy seal. Meanwhile is stealing literally everything at the Ford Operating. Yes and that's what this guy did. So this bizarre untold story and a call to arms crashed before it launched is drawn from interviews and more than thirty Madera opponents and aspiring freedom fighters. I love the. Ap just slips that in their aspiring freedom. Never they never give off. I love this coup attempt because it reminds me. Syria is just like the Beedi operation. Low boil for like two years and then eventually they just fucking gave up but this like Venezuela with the State Department is a is just like every few months they try. They tried again and this time like totally given up. They don't give a shit but every once in a while. Some of the copy innate eastward or something does show that you know like a year ago they were told to refer to the Venezuelan. Opposition is freedom fighters but they've just totally given up on this one. They just they were. They did one go. And it was the dumbest man of the country's saying I'm president and didn't work out and they're like all right foget yeah. They're really a lot like they're like. How reluctant husbands getting dragged to couples therapy every like four months and just not saying anything in stewing. We're not going back until they get not nagged into it like they came home with With like perfume or something Pl- planning for the incursion began after an April thirty. Th Two thousand nine hundred barracks revolt by a cadre of soldiers who swore loyalty to Medeiros would be replacement Wand Guido the opposition leader recognized by the US sixty other nations as Venezuela's rightful leader contrary to us expectations of time he madero. It's never joined with the opposition and the government quickly quashed the uprising. I mean this is straight out of the State Department. Cia handbook where it's like. Then the people will join. The people will rise up. This is another really great detail here. It says a few weeks later. Some soldiers and politicians involved in the failed rebellion retreated to the J W Marriott bogus. Aw I love that part of words. Yvonne Song Jesus Christ fucking love that part said lawyers guns and room service. I love all burkes that they sent him in as well are in a Colombian jungle right now. Dying Rona virus food or water have been probably threatened to the and the guys who planned it. They're just like well retreat into conference room at the Mariot. We're our SELENA the window. Richard Right now. I wonder why with these guys pull their moves. The people don't join them. I mean they're so there's they they emit such a sense that you could be trusted that they're not GonNa let you hanging in the first sign of trouble. And did you hear about guys like this earlier? Early earlier the Dues the guys who were in Columbia. The burks who were like yeah. They were supposed to pay our rent in like didn't all right. Thank you get out of there a to see death squads going on rent strike for the death squad. It's perfect twenty-first-century current at because it's like like the intelligence community or like. They were competent the brutal way. They could do these. It's so terrifying. Like what they can do with mass information and Just the communications abilities. We Now It's terrifying idea. Would they? Could you just toppling governments but what it actually is? It actually emirs everything. That's bad about. Now everything is sort of shoddily. It's it's the cool equivalent of like a cloud restaurant or drop shipping scams. Yeah but the thing is sometimes. It'll work if they push against the rotten enough door if they're going against the regime that hasn't successfully built popular legitimacy actually work Bolivia but it's still it's still very shoddy and at very depressingly. Oh fish and that's what makes it even more depressing. What it actually succeeds. It says here for this occasion conference rooms were reserved for what one participant described as these star wars summit of Anti Madero goof-balls military deserters accused drug trafficking shady financiers former Madera officials seeking redemption. Okay this though. I like that esthetic detail because is we remembered from are reviewing of the prequels. A lot of those sets did look like shitty hotels like they had flame retardant carpets and yeah it just looks like Schick Awful sconces jet council room did look like the you know the the conference room they reserved the J W Marriott at Columbia totally. They're really putting me in. The scene is whatever? It's just like vaguely Sifi. There's like continental breakfast stale bagels. I get a bad coffee there. Want US always their background like a cigarette. Smoking a cigarette smoking man. Well I mean really I would say are Wanna now is Guano. Ou the same character because guate- JATO is. He's the greatest camera of all time to get into the scan that the the dude. Oh my God the the fleece that this guy just the fucking conduct. This guy just ran is legendary. Sorry Yeah No. So now we get into. I think the hero of this story and it says here among those angling and the open lobby again of the mariot in bogus. Aw was Jordan Gujral. An American citizen in three time Bronze Star recipient from bravery in Iraq and Afghanistan where he served as a medic in the US Army Special Forces according to five people who met with former soldier those he interacted with the US in Columbia described him in interviews alternately as a freedom loving patriot a mercenary and a gifted warrior scarred by battle and in and in way over. Who is this poet that they start description the AP the AP really surprise you? Sometimes it's wonderful This former creep raise a five star pimp positive but I get the negative but like the third one it just sounds like a like a character description for like a pitch you know. Reading is half. The articles written for magazines and newspapers are basically veiled pitches to be netflix series. And we're all going to read this against this for the purposes of this listener co-host imagine that we are all on cocaine together in Los Angeles time talking talking. Well I'm yes spinning rapidly at you. You're you're netflixing you're gonNA give me three hundred million dollars this okay so we're talking about. We're talking about a freedom loving patriot. He's a mercenary but he's also gifted warrior scarred by that'll in way over his head elevator. Pitch here's the copy for you with this on the auto play trailer for that too for resources colleagues at said that. Gujral was always at the top of his class. A cell leader with superb intellect handling sources. An amazing shot and the devoted mixed martial arts fighter. Who still cut his hair. Hi How about that for a character? That's maybe that's money in the bank. Yes Chris Fine Chris. Pratt Chris Chris. Christie ended there any to work. They would do it too. They would just throw money at at us because they because they over it. Networks are also on cocaine. Oh big time. That is the house to cocaine built. Were you aware that you drove? It was a devoted mixed martial arts fighter. I was I was. I mean that makes sense though. I mean like mixed martial are there's this thing called I'm not GonNa go into whole thing's what Army combat as is. But it's like it's what the what the army calls there. Ma It is funny that they call it different thing so Kroft Magai. It's such. It's such a six year old like you just have a main. You're like actually it's called him out of if it's different because it's for the army tactical version. Yeah but I don't know he probably get signed to the UC there've been worrying troops assuming well they would have these events every year that were called. Ufc fight for the troops that were held at a military base and they were awesome because they were. I think it was because the fighters like God show for the troops and they would just. It was the most violent outcomes you'd ever seen whereas who could have predicted who could have predicted the troops who get their favorite day. Which is like a bald billionaire from Las Vegas coming out there and being like you guys are fucking fighters all right matt. Are you ready for this detail? Hell yes it's going to. It's going to activate your gland. I guarantee you at the end of it. Otherwise distinguished military career. The Canadian Board Goo Dro was investigated in two. Okay stop right there. I know you think founder enemies really got Pete Bond around us. He's french-canadian he's a scenario as you pull out of fucking James Elroy. French Canadians the most powerful race. Oh you can't get where powerful it's a French. Redneck is the most powerful syncretic force in the West. You've sinker ties. Like 'cause like people are less man splits off into like to fracture like versions of each other like a shadow figures and they're the redneck and the soy based creature. Ed The fucking Quebec is the body of both simultaneously. It's the fully embody mustard man. And he's that's the two most powerful all pulse like like the French guy is the most alpha. The guys yes is because they're the most developed soy guys. 'cause rich guy started being before anyone else. The French Scottish got the French started getting Sawyer. Seventeen eighty-nine they had a head start on everybody so they're the most soy so they're the most advanced the most confident and the most powerful Alpha Soy people and West American and North American rednecks are like the most powerful like troglodyte. Dick like non non soy people. It's a fusion that is like it's Damascus steel. It could cut through anything there. Extra firm Tofu yes. They're the greatest. Look my experience with French. They've literally changed online gaming because there are so racist that she's reporting mechanisms in every platform. Right it's like the more details from this guy's life story are incredible. Honestly we should right and pitch fucking like Netflix. Show about this guy like a movie. About this guy's life it would be like it would be a version of Americans diversion of American sniper that we've always wanted to see list above the Chris Kyle guys was fucking psychotic lawyer. Yes the funniest character of all time because he was an actual navy seal lied about being an ABC. The that isn't the very best seller. It's like a bank robber. Who writes checks got at the end of an otherwise distinguished military career goodrich was investigated in two thousand thirteen for allegedly defrauding the army of sixty two thousand dollars in housing stipends. Yes what wait a minute. What's he like? Was He secretly living in a lucky or something? What was God at the J? W Marion says after retiring in two thousand sixteen. He worked as a private security contractor in Puerto Rico following hurricane. Maria Chris Kyle template pretty fucking closely and when if I have to in for even half a second about what he was doing as a private security contractor in Puerto Rico. Following one of the most humid hurricanes. Yes Oh yeah I I will not allow my mind to one best case scenario. He's like shooting people who emerged from the tree line near like a power station that he's supposed to be guarding worse areas like organ trafficking. Yeah which is very possible is either like anyone who looks at the lin-manuel Miranda Compound. They're getting started between the is worse case. Yeah he's actually. Getting people Dupont goings. He's got the hook he's got the Drina chrome pipeline. Okay all right so another detail here Cisco after so goes in two thousand eighteen. He set up Silver Corp. Usa. A private security firm near his home in Florida's space coast to imbed counter-terror agents in schools disguise teachers. That was his first. That was his first graft after after retirement until a take bribes to happen no see. I was thinking nineties Rom Com right like that. Barrymore movie where she goes back to high school ever been a pedophile. What I'm thinking. This is your after defrauding the US military out of a sixty two thousand dollars in housing stipends. His his first is I Sort of run at the GRIFF was setting up a private security firm to embed operators in schools designed as teachers. I mean this is like twenty one jump. Street never been kissed. There's a lot of ripe possibilities where this could go. It says the company's website features photos and videos of drones. Firing machine guns in battle running shirtless up a pyramid flying on a private jet and sporting a military backpack rolled up American flag. Silver Cores website. Tout's operations in more than fifty countries with an advisory team made up of former diplomats experienced military strategist and heads of multinational corporations. None of them named it claims to have led international security teams for the President of the United States Gujral forty-three declined to be interviewed. In a written statement he said that silver core cannot disclose the location the disclose the identities of its network so sources assets and advisors due to the nature of our work and more generally would never confirm nor deny any activities in any operational realm. No Inter inference should be drawn from this response okay. He said he would not participate with this interview with the AP era comments on their story however thanks to a journalist here on twitter His name is Giancarlo Fiorella I. He has found that this guy was doing interviews with like Latin America South American media and there are some even fucking better details that he's giving up in these interviews so it says here An interview Jordan says Again this is coming from Giancarlo Fiorella on twitter Jordan says in the interview that the opposition did not hold up inside of the contract and as such. He's free to talk about it. He says you're he pulls out a contract during the interview that he says General Services to help the liberation of the country quote General Services Meno. That's what it says quote. I'm just a guy who's trying to help out. A group of people not a mercenary. I wasn't paid a sense and I've never seen such backstabbing. So he was husband. Ain't loyal Jordan went on to say they're sixty men living in a cemetery in Columbia that As the remnants of his mercenary group and the Colombian government did okay and then he said that the Venezuelan opposition hurt us more than helped us in part because they did that. One sounds like a pitch for a Sitcom all right guys. There Cigarette Cemetery. No they're living in a seventy seventh year that I would so every part of this but like my first impulse given the this guy Was that he's completely line like they probably live near a cemetery. I live near something that they think is cemetery but is in fact like a completely different. They just like a three part dog. Walk Walking place but they just like yeah. We live among the pillars of death. Like I know that like the image that he wants is that they all live in mausoleums and like at the end of a long day of war like the the sit down next to the corpse the Muslim. They're like you probably had your battles in your day compadres but I'm but different soldier walking a dark path but yeah no one lives at a cemetery like shuttle actually i. I hate to break this up but living in cemeteries is incredibly calm and the third world's biggest. There's some of the first facilities to receive any kind of infrastructure. Let clean running water or electricity. But as a whole whole documentary about these goes on. I don't think this guy is. I mean like first of all anytime you throw in the word like a word like backstabbing. And they're like you're a real housewife or something. Everything you said. Prior Stout word is a load of Shit. Just saying no. Nothing that guys. He's just read at the his fake friends and he really backstabbing going on here. Jordan said it would be easy to topple Madero with enough money and that he just got just got another to tax. The way I can I can totally do a kick flip this. It would be easy to topple. Madero with enough money. And that e quote just got another two texts from guys who are going to start striking targets so I I love just like upgrading. Centcom from from my verizon phone like like striking targets usually means not but it just like to assholes just throwing cherry bombs at the presidential palace. He's siphoning gasoline out of army jeeps carrying sir. We have put sugar in the gas tank of Medeiros wives vehicle in my and my head. This guy has a blackberry. Going on he says he says the opposition never paid him his retainer of one point five million dollars and that probably wouldn't have been enough to do the whole thing He says Says the OPT kept to? The opposition kept promising to pay him week after week and Jordan says that the operation this morning was the full extent of invasion as per the contract. And it's all they managed to muster and he says this was the operation. This was the only operation this was it. He said he went on to say that. Of course the operation of course is still ongoing and that cells are activating across the country. And he's getting messages from around from people saying I've got twenty guys with guns who WanNa fight it like. He's got guys Senate when he says we have cells that are striking targets inside Venezuela. He means he's getting texts from guys with like the target Emoji. Being like you know. What are we going to do man? I've got a couple of guys who have a gun. This is just an Ohio guy. They are being bowled over by an Ohio guy. This is amazing so it gets even better. He says here Quebec is the Ohio of Canada. So that's true gets even better. He says I've been a freedom fighter my whole life. This is what I would say. This is what I do and then asked why an amphibious attack via luxury Yara instead of something more simple Jordan answers. Are you familiar with Alexander? The great guy. He says Alexander the great struck deep into the heart of the enemy at the battle of Guatemala. Hence the attack directly at Caracas and he says my only wish is that I was on the ground fighting and that he is presently trying to rectify that he stresses that there is ongoing fighting and that several other groups in the country have activated. So I mean just sort of like the Jean Carlos does a little too long read at the ad apparently one guido signed a contract for him to overthrow the Maduro government. For Two hundred ninety two million dollars he failed to pay the one point five million dollar retainer within the first five days so this Guy Jordan cujo got no money and then still put together an amphibious assault because he thought is what Alexander the great would have done. I mean this guy. This guy was known for that. Honestly like if trump isn't aware of this man he needs to be made aware of him and he needs to have a rose garden ceremony giving him the Medal of honor. Alexander web for there were no more wyndham rewards points to collect. This is really. We have to get to work on this right now. We are leaving. We're leaving money on the Danny McBride. Obviously it's amazing we could this. This is just just imagine the trailer for it Alexander. The great heard of I have a different idea for this. I think the easy thing is like move. Your maybe sears. But I think like you can make this series. We're like He. He defrauds different. Nato member country every week Saul Goodman but for like the deep state exactly exactly like a different member of of Five is completely fleeced. Every time by his gang of imbeciles he goes he goes Elizabeth Felix. Here he's the one getting fleeced. It's quite fucking running a scam on this ass. Oh He's Lonzo at sea levels. Everyone's scamming everyone though. Yeah Yeah you don't just the kids get scammed by have no shave. He's the greatest. Amer of old I. It's like what's up. Chalabi was the king scammer the Iraq war but people were also lying to him. You know lying to her like everyone else. Everyone had at each other's pocket. What I like about Jordan here is that like yes. Like this is like he is a like a pure lying guy and like each one of his His themes and ideas are more harebrained than the last. But the fact that he went ahead with this fucking idiotic. It'd be assault on Caracas. Despite not even getting paid his retainer shows me that this guy isn't it for the love of the game. He loves he likes. He just loves the freedom fighter all great con artists at some point. Believe the con- that's exactly. Yeah no we've talked about that. How the most powerful type of guy is oil salesman? Who BELIEVES NEW SNAKE OIL? Now that's the best guy no it. Yeah you can. You can't truly sell it. You want unless you truly believe in it and this guy does believe in it which is love Beta mercenary. Yeah just loves it. Well he even. That's what I love. You like refuses to even say he's fully immersed in airy. Yeah Yeah I'm a guy looking to help a group of people out guy trying to help a group of people that can be any job. It'd be a plumber. Destroyed describing their work. Yes so yeah you're GONNA have to get more specific and then you land on the definition of mercenary. Yes look I do some things for some people. What are the things they involve gones? Yes who are the people they are people who pay me? Yes I like to refer to myself as Konta Torey like pitcher mercenary. So you can see you can see why I. I'm pleased to share this story with you. Guys you know a array of sunshine are sort of the dark clouds that have got. I have to say that I will be thinking about this man. Shenanigans antics and what kind of hilarious stunts the only one weekly basis from. Now on I would definitely watch this. Premium streaming service all of the episode. Where they try to defraud Germany. And they like Germany's bureaucratic culture bakes too difficult ice. It's too little and don't paper where they bury them and they can't. They don't really process like a like figurative language so they can't really get like his big sweeping statements because they're too literal minded and he goes to New Zealand and tries to convince them that he can take dinghy full of guns in like liberate. Tasmania from Australia. But he actually does it alone. Yeah I bet he accidentally Oh yes only becomes the Hobart mass shooter. Oh he actually he does. He accidentally starts the second movie war and loses it. Yeah starting to bleed. Stralia whips up the government to do something about the booze and like through a bunch of Shenanigans at Ashby steaks and him getting scammed by people at him screaming other and ripping it off. It ends up with just him in a technical driving around the outback tried to shoot per. The agw are the wrath of God. No spoilers but at some point the bird gets the upper hand horse or the. The Australian birds will have the upper hand until Jordan who dro- makes his most important lines of all time the domestic house cat and they have no natural resistant that okay. So here's another really funny thread to this guy's aborted the operators aborted operation. Here is that like all last week guys like John. Bolton were tweeting. I'm reading this year. Just from his twitter out to this day. The significant foreign military presidents in Venezuela denies the will of the people the strongest possible stations must remain until the peaceful transition of power and one Guido Venezuela's rightful interim president in the Venezuelan. People are firmly in control. Morning is coming to Venezuela again and. I just like to think that like when they were tweeting this they were like us. Thinking like yeah. We've got this. The operation is convincing right now. People don't know about it but you know I know I'm in the no the guys they're doing they're infamous assault. It's going down. And then they just end up in a cemetery in Columbia and like the planners are stuck in a fucking myriad hotel being like. These three hundred guys weren't enough to start a fucking an uprising against because. Madero so yeah. That is a Sixth grade and to be a major motion picture. Courtesy Trap House productions. All right if you try to try to seal it. We will sue you know. Just put it out on the podcast like now in broadcast it. Oh Yeah I know we will come out with the hammer of God if you try to do that if you do that. I'm hiring or USA. Absolutely you'll be kinetically intervene with your your your your your battlespace is about to get real kinetico me. Real connect on Alexander. Yes okay I got one more. Feel good story for you guys right and this comes. Courtesy of politico headline the Biden campaign. Faces a mind boggling. Challenge how to make Joe go viral the ex. Vp small digital team has idea cough audible Lopez. See what happens the EX VP? Small digital team has a tall order going up against Donald Trump. Who intuitively understands what clicks so the couple. I met you cute into one of the one of the funny things about the headline. How do we make Jovo go viral? I don't know like let him shake hands with people leave his house but I also like the campaign faces a mind. Boggling Challenge Joe Biden's mind boggled is badly boggled and it's a challenge but no this is about things on the digital side of the Biden campaign and it says here. How does it campaign take a seventy seven year? Old Man who admits he needs his granddaughter's help with his cell phone and pitches himself as a sober and reasonable and make him go viral. The perplexing challenge has become a consuming focus of Joe Biden's campaign as it tries to finally up its digital game to compete against Account Challenger. Who NOT ONLY UNDERSTANDS. Intuitively how to generate clicks buzz but boasts a massive and sophisticated digital operation to amplify his message that massive and sophisticated digital operation. Or just like Zimmer teenagers who do all this shit for free just make trump based on unread it. Because they love the game so far Biden's poultry digital team about twenty five people to imagine. What sweet job that is you think about how much money there was. Twenty five people. Oh my God you get like a whole world dollars for a month to make like a flash game where Joe Biden pushes hoop with a stick. I would love to be. I would love to make Joe Biden. You're the man now. Dog Jack Jack Jack. That would be great. He's so his digital team of twenty five people has decided to mostly issue the combative fair pervert by the President's campaign in favor of uplifting content designed to inspire the RUB as no one understands better than trump is that the social media platforms and the algorithms that power them reward bombast and conflict amid the cloud of newly published saccharin videos posted on Biden's facebook page. It's the trump bashing ones that usually have the most views but Biden's campaign is betting that this strategy which reminds one of up worthy the go to site for feel good. News has the where they now as the facebook change their algorithm and destroyed them overnight. That is how fragile that is how fragile. They're like a position in the media. Space was all the chase it did was like Kerry. The two in their algorithm and their tire company disappeared. How does that? How's that going to work with people to vote during epidemic but also just like positively does not on the inside because everyone's miserable that's where they put their misery misery by yes. It's it's a hate and misery ox so like the idea that you're like okay. I'm going to grow this this little or kid on the top of a freezing mountain like that's ridiculous because everybody feeds their. Hey misery into the box and then they hate the things they see on at that makes them feel better yes. It's a poison tree that there's poison fruit. I mean that's one way of looking at it but as the precedes the Biden camp actually has a very different idea of what people do. They got a lot of wild ideas about some stuff like Peng still in recent weeks. The campaign has been testing that vision. It posted a compilation of corona virus. Acts of kindness with the tagline. When we're told to stay apart we still come together. Access sounds like breaking quarantine. That's bad advice. Not If you know what in a circle jerk yeah yeah? No that. That fundamentally doesn't understand how politics does boat job like we were talking earlier. The alternative everyone dying is. Joe Biden is a party. That has an alternative right. Joe Biden does not have an alternative to everybody just going back out buying so you have to have some sort of like emotional response. That's GonNa get you to do something like vote and be like. Oh people are nice to each other. That's not going to do it. You have to be like these motherfuckers are doing something wrong. And now you'll note. I mean I'll do it right and instead I get sick. I think the impression that people will be like you know what that was nice. I think I'll go out and vote. No as we began the beginning of this episode on they could be pushing a viral videos. About how the fuck and the White House and Congressional Republicans want nine eleven every day. Yeah you'd think they're doing though they don't they don't have an alternative alternative to nine eleven. Every day is like Katrina every day nine eleven every other day. Yes there we go now. Casual casual nine eleven. That's that's politics. Maybe that's the slow boring of heart boards that we love. I just listened to some other. This awesome content. It has pushed out post that attempt to replicate Biden's trenched one on one moment voters such as they live streamed digital rope line shortened outlawed Delaware. One it says here and hosted a soul of the nation Saturday to mark the one year anniversary of his announcement for president and a Biden brunch telling supporters that mom oceans most is optional but encouraged. Jesus Christ how about that? Miller does not like. Doesn't your body like not drink now. He doesn't he doesn't drink. I think it'd probably mixes with has other medication. Yeah I would love Joe. Biden combining his adderall and alcohol. Great some great anytime. You see someone who just writes a very ill-informed thread that Just betrays they only took one college level course on the subject but are presenting themselves as an expert that is ip at all kind of added a thread. Yeah yeah so I would love to see Joe on love the media. He develops this. Next graph is really good because it gets to the heart of what they think the Internet is and it says here quote empathy is just as good if getting engagement. Biden's digital director Rob Flaherty said in an interview the south suburban. Okay listen to this phrase the suburban facebook empathy MOMS that I think about a lot. Those folks are just hungry for the contrast between the darkness of trump and the goodness of Joe Biden. Dj Run. That's when that back for a second. The suburban FACEBOOK EMPATHY. Moms that we think about a lot remember when we did the show at twenty sixty eight and I had that bit as like a Franklin consultant and I said something like cross. Bow Wine Aunts. Yeah right yeah. That's up there right there. I gotta say empathy suburban empathy. Mom's face urban. Sorry Emma which is going to be which is going to be like a porn hub tag. Then it's been all right away. I pity anyone. Who has a non empathy? Mom I'm sorry. I have empathy for you. That sounds terrible. Your mop should have some empathy. My look no struggling among the race by psychopaths Democrat. But yeah I mean this. Is there a what's interesting is like this is their digital strategy which is just coming up with the most dog shit content imaginable? That you know makes the people creating it. They're like oh you done done. This make this makes you feel good because like hey like I. It gives me a little like you know. Fire in my belly to think about you. Know the soul of the nation. Having endless mimosas with Joe Biden. That's not an ask though you're not owning anyone with your vote like you're not going to get people to vote with that because on now if you're not promising to change anything which we agree neither one is. GonNa do you GonNa have to say vote to own someone? That's what most people vote for is to vote to someone one. And that's not owning anybody. You're just GonNa stay home with some camomile tea. You'RE NOT GONNA rally people to get to the polls especially as I said during a fucking pandemic and treating it like a publicity tour for like a like a middle of the road kind of a starlet. Whose promoting like a ROM COM spoon vehicle. Yeah Yeah I also guess she goes on the today show and gets drunk with Hoda or just this. You're gonNA read this sentence. Those folks the again suburban facebook empathy MOMS. That we think a lot about. We Love Them. Don't we love those folks are just hungry for the contrast between the darkness of trump and the goodness of Joe Biden? How do they know that he's cool? What where's the buy in for the the nonaffiliated voter on Joe Biden being good that he's not president thing? It's just like a there's trying to say don't you WanNa Watch the Bible show but the show is going to be boring television. Most people don't watch television. Yup I am I the only one who like I think that could be very successful. Pitched to Americans out how bad things are and how much we blame. China versus trump. I mean that's GonNa win regardless of what any rest of this bullshit is like none of this is gonNA matter on depending who wins. Who WINS IS GONNA be like now? Math things aren't how we blame them. Felix does have a point because like all of the people who just want Ovalles. They just want things that we normally get. They just want to follow back or whatever they're like all there's A. There's a new season of the Obama. Show where you know he left but you know Biden is picking up and that was a pleasant show that was upsetting all the time I think like just wanting to feel normal is incredibly powerful feeling and I think it's one of the most powerful feelings in America it certainly more powerful than any type of like righteous rage or indignation like anyone who rightfully shot right right. Well what the BOB talking about people who would like they've been out of work due to co Ed with no safety net to call them like to catch them but like those people are usually like they don't even they're completely disavowed. The notion of fighting back for a billion reasons one is there to beaten down by just how difficult their lives has been. Another reason is just. It's not part of American culture. It just isn't it just isn't we're we don't have really eighty part international myth of fighting back against the virus. Be In that way I think that of the people that vote that just not wanting to think about this shit will be the dominant force right but the problem is going to be. That's that segment of the population. Those people already have prior already. They have a team for the most part even the independence. Who are just. They don't really understand their own ideology. They still vote dependably one way because they have more like identification with one party over the other and that means that the people the people left who want who I mean yes. People want it back to normal but people laughed who are to vote it November. Who want to go back to normal and have that equal Obama being president and having warm associations with that collection of symbols around Obama being president and all that stuff and thinking that was good. That is a smaller chunk of people than it was elected and reelected Obama. They weren't even able to get Clinton across the line. Because Clinton's pitch was let's keep it like this and it wasn't enough that's going to be even fewer people because people have either died or lost any enchantment to this process. Well I think I think the thing is is that like Felix's right is that this kind of strategy does work on people who have already bought tickets to the Biden show. It might get. It might get them. It might make them slightly more likely to remember to vote. That's it but the thing is that's it that's the only people left to vote and it and I I guess it's GonNa come down to like which because it was such it was so close last night but it's going to be the same thing. Where are those like marginally motivational Biden? Voters what states are the head right. I mean I just think that's like it could be a lot more barricades people think. I think people would be shocked and disappointed. What people's priorities are politically across? The Nation I also do think that yeah. It does come down to how much people blame China versus. I'm going to The China think is particularly a dagger for bided because he's particularly weak on China even like he's incredibly easy for the trump people attack on China especially through hunter. So if it looks like it's going that direction he's not GonNa win is just not because he's very weak and has a lot of baggage there but I know I. This is one of those cases. Where both the funniest outcome and addressed era while properly gauging. The electorate tells me that a by the wind is love more likely than people think. I guess the question is. Who are the people you're referring to? I say it's fifty fifty because we don't know how because we have a crisis. This is a crisis. Election Chrysler elections are lost by incumbents. Basically every time it less they're able to sufficiently offload responsibility to enough people. Those are the questions fifty race. I think anyone who says it's more than fifty fifty race is investing too much faith in one element of that that we don't know how it's going to be even a month from now owned radio. Say Right I'm not saying I'm saying for sure but it's GonNa win. I'm just saying it's more likely than people will think that people give it credit for. Well let's get like I think a lot of people think Biden's issue in like liberals those people those people are just insane sure. Those people are just fucking idiot. But I mean I think you got to say there's probably a similar like lack of connection to reality to some Maga- person in the face of an unprecedented nine eleven every day pandemic. There's guy presided over saying. Oh He's GONNA kill by. That's also that's also fucking idiotic like it's a fifty fifty race spam. It is crisis because we don't know how it's going to shape up right exactly and anyone who tried to call it. Now is just like a crane. Yeah absolutely yeah. You're just a crank. If you for sure not going to happen now. I just WanNa read a just a few more Clips from their digital content strategy. It says here flirty added that if we did with the Algorithms told us what to do all the time it would be punching trump in the face while that will always be part of the toolkit a negative. I wouldn't create this stand culture or avid following. Oh as need to develop. Oh here that fell out kid. I think we've I think we've found a theme today for the show which is just insane liars who lead their own bullshit. And that's this guy is the same thing is our french-canadian green bread up the shit out of the Biden campaign. But he's still to completely believes it. Oh he believes all that he believes evolve it he thinks that you know people may Joe Biden van. Damme's what where thing is though and I would point. This out is that he does kind of touch. Something that is correct. Which is that going. Totally negative with no positive offering is A failed strategy eight but when people say like a positive like offer it's like it has to be the offer that's positive it's not that you're exactly that you're giving them politics to have. It's like if it's going to be on the realm of the symbolic and both parties aren't agreement on enough basic stuff on how to relate to this crisis in this moment that it will be on the level of the pure symbol then then resentment and anger and and picking an enemy is a much more effective tool. You're not going to offer actual things for especially if you're talking about online like in digital content how to and how to create a you know a engaged network of people on the Internet who are willing to you know argue on your behalf. I share these dog. Shit fucking videos or memes or whatever. It says here one more courteous. Oh the way you win. Online in twenty twenty is is by building enthusiasm and enthusiastic online communities that taught on bring people in true but it says here Biden Biden his campaign which has several older operatives up. Didn't on winning the Internet in the primary Bernie Sanders. Social media team was about the size of Biden's entire digital operation many of Biden's attempts at clicky content revolves around the vice presidents have Finney affinity for aviator sunglasses an ice cream and the viral moments by did have meeting supporter operating the elevator at the New York Times or his emotional anther about faith in loss at a South Carolina. No one remembers. I don't remember I don't passing through people like Alestra chips. Remember the people who remember this are like fifty year old. Just pose like clip arts of hot cocoa you into giving you a digital toasted is like you don't their our view that remember. This is none of them. Like the thing is it's like it's but the thing is like it's trump to every type trump whips as people into a frenzy with dumb tweet. That's perfectly calculated to refi all the conflicts that he likes. It's it's the it's the aggregation of them you don't have you can't pick out specific ones these. What are you picking out specific ones? It's because you're trying to build an argument that doesn't make sense and they are trying to make sense here is like we can make Biden. He can make him we can make him dabble and it's because the problem they'd understand is. I'm sorry like yes. Stand cultures clearly cynical and at a certain point it becomes self self perpetuating and just PR. But it's the word of stand as fan as you were a fan of someone for something they did like those k pop weirdos. Whoever terrified of they like the music like people like beyond say people like Bernie because of his policies there are no biden fans to stand him and you need substantial to start the movement real people. Invest can't be pure if can't start with PR campaign. The campaign is built on top of an actual base of support. Which doesn't have will get you remember what happens at the end of the songs Dan. Yes yeah stand. Kills himself at his girls. Pam is elected president. Will that is that is what Biden's voters did grandma. Jerry Vote Biden is like what are you represents in terms of like preventing things that they thought were worse I e Bernie or trump. Not by himself. He's totally for himself. He has no characteristics that they have emotionally attached to and that's their real crisis and there's no fixing it can i. Can I just add? I'm on Joe Biden's facebook page right now and just thinking about this These video numbers are dog. Shit fifty five thousand views for some deterioration though. That's out there. I mean some things here. Almost crack a million But you know Donald Trump's facebook page triggered hosted by Donald Trump junior APP. That's a million dollars. A week ago I was half a million of those because it was an episode and then also the video titles on this are just better. We are the king of ventilators winning Tiger Plan. All over again. All of this is just a political reap recapitulation of Charlie Sheen phenomenon. It's it's the same dynamics at play just on Matt's last point I haven't I haven't given an update from pod saved verse in a while. I have to say that one of the saddest things I've ever heard on that program was from a a week ago. Which is them earnestly being earnestly saying what their listeners can do now is now is the time where we stop posting what we don't like about donald trump and start posting what we do like about Joe blow because they're telling people to stop posting in whatever you cannot that which you cannot speak your bus pass over in silence. I didn't. I didn't really is the perfect Avatar of America. Oh yeah he's a million years old he's only in the position he's in now because like he was just big. He's just been there the longest and now everyone's like look yet. He probably raped when you have to say what you like about him. It's perfect it's perfect. He looked verdict. American also totally incompetent. Complete fucking rose to a level really bad really angry hair-trigger incapable of doing absolutely. He rose rose to the level of his supreme competence. Which is the key fucking almost being president. Yeah I like if he wins. It's like not even in the hands of the pod save guys just in the almost sometimes impenetrable minded the American voter. Who just sees all this like? Does it no like who was like? It was epic when he got mad like he wins and that would be kind of the perfect American story. Dr Jill is edith wills yes it would be the perfect end to America drag out and like the Larry cudlow is fed chairman. And it's just it's just a tech fascist nihilism until the end of well not even that when we're talking about how like the story of Joe Biden is almost a tragedy. Like what is it that the perfect tragedy? He finally gets the job that he fucked up so many times trying to get and then that's the end of the American Empire in the end of United America. Oh yeah no it'll collapse up. It'll break he'll he'll the White House though. But like his writ will he'll be like he'll be like how they called Hamid Karzai the mayor of Kabul. He'll be like in charge of the of the of the Delmarva like control zone. But he'll still think this president. Oh Yeah I think that more along the lines of that twilight zone episode with the bookworm at the end nuclear warheads breaks and he's like it's not fair Fares Biden gets to be president but he's not lucid enough. Yeah so he's just like it's not specifically the way I was thinking about it like there's a specific way if this is wrong please correct me but dementia tends to act. I on short term memory. So you remember old things more than things that are in front of you so that means you could have bite in the White House. He doesn't have enough short memory to be aware that he is president. But he knows he's in the White House and it reminds them of all the time he was in the White House as VP. And senator when he was pissed that he wasn't president and so his time president as him being tormented because in his head. He's just in the White House. He's not in charge and so like he makes the decision because somebody pokes them with a stick and then he forgets it but he still remembers that of White House. I've never I've never became president. Yeah the whole thing is just a torture. I love you heard of that. I I love that idea because like in that scenario I suppose like Barack Obama or the DNC would be like Joe Pantoliano and Memento. Yeah just sort of wait Biden at Sammy Jenkins and get them. Here's the here's a signature strike list by the way I just about that pod safe thing of now think about something nice to say about that is that is. Hr Felix likes to talk about the HR affiliation of politics that is the HR trick if you're going to like give one of your employees that merit so that they don't get to hostile and they listen to this constructive criticism. Say Nice thing. I compliment part of there. Were a sandwich that God what I mean like you know. I wish it wasn't happening here but this is so fun. So it is is hilarious. Like all these people who like since two thousand fourteen. We're at like Oh like older post before to fourteen. Were like I've got I'm the I'm the AIDS Gay Guy Holocaust Michael Ian Black and then from do those fourteen on they were like when it comes to bodies the spaces can be the most affecting thing Them and that now they have to be like you could rape. It'd be a good person. It's like the verdict full circle thing. It's this guy who doesn't know where he is. You have to do this. Hr exercise where you say a good thing that he did that. He doesn't remember you personally. Now if you're talking about his career in government he has never done a good thing not even not even once on the wrong side of pretty much everything. It's one of the funniest fucking things that ever happen in this country. Well the funniest thing that could happen would be him winning. And then just the collapse of America America turning into like five different states. I'll just league. Is this this is the last thing I'm GonNa read from this article says here. Speaking of those remember those viral moments of Biden talking to someone in an elevator. That we all definitely remember. He said like the power of those moments with they were unscripted. So they're like okay. How do we? How do we recreate this? And it says your those organic moments helped inspire the empathy content strategy Biden's advisers say. I'll just leave with that phrase the empathy content strategy. I'll say I'll just say a good indication that you're not actually experiencing empathy for anyone or anything. Is that if you look the words content strategy right after it and more broadly if you are experiencing it online what that's not really empathy. That is a dopamine trick. Version of the real empathy is for actual human beings not simulated computer people but to embers point about how the Internet is a hate and misery box. I think you can experience organic moments of Sadism in spite. Yes because you're the person on the Internet every time you're on the Internet you're the only real person and so the only real fun you're GonNa get is by making other people miserable because you don't get any of the reciprocal like sense of peace that you get from making someone nights make someone happy in real life because there's no personal element to the transaction. It's just pictures images and if that's the case the only pleasure the only real pleasure you can get is making other people miserable there. We go that that is that is the Chapo content strategy right there. What do you say? Wrap it up for this week? Let's do it okay. Put a bit old bow on it. Love you boys an amber leave you with I.

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VOLCANO w/ Mekki Leeper

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VOLCANO w/ Mekki Leeper

"Hey, I'm Tommy Lee Jones, and just wanted to say that a volcano is my best performance in my best film. And some people will say that it's no country for old men or the fugitive, but I wrote volcanoes and lived it and it's just the masterpiece. It's masterpiece. And so, I hope he has enjoyed this podcast about volcano. I also love podcast, by the way, Tommy Lee Jones, E big fan podcast, but I just wanted to reiterate how much I enjoyed directing doing the cinematography for volcano, and of course, acting in it, along with everybody else who was in, which was also great obviously not as good as myself. Tommy Lee Jones, but very good in their own. Right. And and I hope you guys enjoy it. And I hope to make another volcano movie volcano to attack of the lava clones. Which going to come out and a couple of years, I'm still working on the screenplay for that. So look out for that and enjoy this and I'm going, I'm right now. I'm actually kind of busy. I have to get on the horse and by bunch of moonshine and trade. An old pickup truck that I got for some goats, and boxes Sagar's. I'll see you later. Tom jones. Did the movie get it right? Will we have to fight? Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of bed science. I'm your host eaten Edinburgh. And today, I am thrilled to talk about the best movie about a volcano that also stars. Tommy Lee Jones. It's volcano nineteen ninety seven's volcano. It's a movie that my first guest truly loves, I can't wait to hear all the reason he loves it. You know him. He's a wonderful stand up, and he was also on our episode about a quiet place, and he has a comedy central digital series called control room, which is absolutely fantastic. It's Mickey leaper. Hey, what's up? This is straight up one of the worst films of all time. Dude. I, I mean, dude, I can't even foresee anybody listening to this episode because anybody who's seen this film is like is like, dude. I can't think about that for one more second, or they're smart person who's having a fine life. Like I was before today, and have never seen volcano. Okay. So then this episode is just for the three of us in this room, and I'm still delighted to have the conversation and learn about volcanoes as much as we can. And hopefully convince you that vocational is not that bad. I'm not saying it's great. I'm saying it's not that bad, bro. I'm a volcano. I'm gonna blow your blow your stack here today and, and joining us, and I have no idea what she thinks about volcano, but she's a research scientists at NASA. J P L is Dr Laura Kerber. How's it going? We haven't seen you since the total recall episode. Yes. We talked about Mars at that point. And now we get to talk about my other favorite topic, which is volcanoes. Yes, you think no one likes to film. Volcano. You should hang out with more geologist because it's one of the fan, favorites one of the greatest movies of all time. Okay. No volcano God. No, I wanna say this before we before we often hear, I'm very as rove, all Qena, the movie. Volcano. No, no, no, no, no. I'm very the phenomenon. Volcano, the geological structure, that is volcano. I feel like then you have to say, I'm bro, volcanos. I'm pro volcano. Okay. Great. Yes. Yeah. I'm yeah. So excited to learn and discuss that phenomenon. Exactly. And I have many questions because of my great and deep respect for bylanes. Bylanes is that I feel this movie does not do Justice, but couldn't you admit that at the very least spark some curiosity about volcanoes and creates a discussion such as this one. I mean, I guess, look in the same way that I, I don't know, dude in the in the same way like I just can't I spent so much time watching today exact time we all did that is the length of the film, unless you watched in weird pieces or slow MO I know I did. And although a lot of it is in some kind of weird Salama. That's a very good point. I Dr Laura, and I were just talking before you got here about how this one scene stuck in our head from when we first side, which is the guy jumping out of the train, and totally not making it and melting into the lava, I don't know why I feel like we're not the only one that if you saw it when it came out. That's the big scene. He said it's like oh yeah. Let's talk about volcano. I wonder what volcano is about? I'd last watched it at nineteen Ninety-seven big fan of Tommy Lee Jones. And then, you know, but the big scene, basically the only seen I remembered was that guy. Thinking slow into lava with absolutely no chance. I love that scene. I mean, like what's that scene mic? What's not to love about that. See I don't I do. It's just got this guy. He's got he's carrying this, dude. It's a heroic moment, his sneakers or melt into the platform fault that the train is down there in the first place, because he kept the trains running when the geologists said that they should shut them down. Call karma. It's, it's one of the only it's one of the only moments of the film. And I think this is why it has any emotional impact whatsoever. Not because of it being realistic or interesting or any. Yeah. Exactly. He's literally, the only character in the movie may be that, like, makes it and then pays for the it's the only part of the movie that has any semblance of, like structure or just narrative value at all. It's like, oh he made a mistake. And now and that's always the best part of the whole character, arc of his daughter, who is, you know, like how did he be such a bad ass and get a daughter? That's just such a wuss, right? Sure. So scared of everything. And then she makes the transition into being helpful and useful human being actually cares about others, and it's not a friend. She goes in like a little baby can, yes. That's helping all the people in the hospital. Yeah. Just by it, though, if your six year old kid and you're at a Hard Rock Cafe. There's no parents, there's no rules. And you're getting on limited fries and burger. That's like, why are you getting up from the table? Or is there another Hard Rock Cafe? You can go to you, because that's the only destination, that would make you leave. There's an. Is not getting up. He's not leaving. I was very you know, what's so crazy to me the most like relevant or like a celebrity character to me is his daughter. That's played by God. What is her name, a why don't know she's great. She's in girls. She's in like she Steph. Need to look back and seal the actors that you did recognize like, oh before the adventures? Yeah. She did. Yeah. She did. Rain so good dude. I mean probably took like a day for him because he's always in the control center. Yeah, I don't know. I just assume that maybe I'm wrong like he was probably never talked to Tommy Lee Jones once or twice. Maybe but yeah. I just wanted to comment on the daughter for a second, because when the whole thing's over there, you know, like leaving. It's raining during the day, and I mean spoiler alert. Here's the end of volcano. They survive. But she's like, totally just like, she didn't experience anything, you know, he asked her like, oh, you want to see the Beverly center how it wasn't as a joke. She's like dad. It was cool. And that's like the last line of the movie, also. And she's just like as if I don't know if she just spent a day at the park, but, like, she definitely saw a bunch of people die. She was injured, thank river, burn. I mean, there are there are things about this movie. There's also this weird like racial be plot. Why does that? Keep coming up in this movie man here. He uncomfortable to watch. I don't know if it was uncomfortable with the time it feels like this very like post Rodney King LA thing that they're trying to push where it's like big time. Yeah. Where it's like, hey a black. Guy is getting arrested. And then he helps out and the cop is racist. But then the cops aren't raises. It's like what is this? He likes them. Hope gets over his racism of sort of, and then there's a part where his like he goes and tells the guy like a get on this fire drug and you know, it will take you back home. Like he's being nice. All of a sudden. All of the houses aren't already like cash at that point, exactly hours after they caught fire his friend is a Cup friend goes, you're a good, man. You were just arresting dude, for no reason other than his race. The only the only like like realistic. Well, I don't even know if it's realistic. It's just such a funny thing. That's very president in the movie. It's like even when there is a volcano in the middle of the Beverly center like the greatest threat to black people as the LAPD. Yeah. The whole time I was watching I was thinking this is the most nineties movie is ever got Tommy Lee Jones, got an hey, she got all these everyone's looking at their pagers all the time. But then but then there's these things that are all universal and timeless like racist, racism, some things just haven't changed it all this time. It's really true. Yeah, it's one of the only, it's only the only like contemporary things about the movie almost yes at the but the child is this like the child ends up having this, like mall, lives matter kind of take at the end. Everybody's covered in ash, and he's like, faces they all say? Yeah. About that to me, too, was he said that answer your question about where, and what his mom looks like he's like, where's your mom what she looked like and he looks around and goes look at their faces they all look the same and then that's finished. So it's like this kid just doesn't have a mom anymore. I guess she's either debt, or they're able to find her because he can't describe anything about her. But at least he has, like, like, like a regressive outlook on race. Now. Not. Yeah. I mean it's such a I found a lot of other teams though that sort of come into present day like trying to build new metro lines and being stymied at every turn and every single thing that's in charge, like regulatory agency in charge of transit, and everything else in LA, just constantly fighting with each other. That's the team that that's true. We'll see. This is so interesting because it's like you bring a scientist on the show to be an expert on something. But the reality is the comedian guests myself very much included are so dumb that it's like she's like, yes, I'm a scientist, but also I'm just smarter than you. So I like know about, like civic issues that are happening. Oh, yeah. There's no part of science. She's not here just to educate us on volcanoes. Hopefully, we can learn some life lessons what to do in our Texas. I mean I'm here all do subscribe to a transportation in Los Angeles newsletter. So talking, it's like it's like, yes, you're here to be an expert, but you're also here to make sure that this does. Devolve into me anything just like making caveman now. And impersonating Joan. Speaking of her expertise, I do want to ask you about the projects you're working on right now. We emailed briefly about a moon project, you're doing moon diver. So can you first tell us about that? Yes, I've been really busy lately. I'm leading this project called moon diver and the idea is to go to the moon. And then Land Rover, which is an extreme train two-wheeled river, that would repel down into a lunar lava tube, so in ancient times on the moon, there were enormous lava flows. And if you think the lava flow in volcano is large, that's nothing this one, you know, there's some lava flows that have happened on the earth longtime ago, maybe fifteen million years ago. There's one sixty five million years ago, two hundred and fifty million years ago, and it's so much lava comes out that it travels six hundred miles in a couple of days or it covers an area, the size of continental Europe. You know if like. Just it's moving. It's a it's a combination of both. It's just an enormous amount of lava that comes out, and it's pretty fluid lava and so over a series of weeks or months than it covers this enormous area. So if you think about in Washington state, a huge portion of the state is covered in meters, and meters of assault and just cliffs of assault hundreds of feet high. And so those are all from this thing that happened about fifteen million years ago, which was the Columbia River basaltic option. So those similar eruptions happen on all the planets, we're not that familiar with them because they don't happen very often. So if you imagine the whole evolutionary history of mankind that kind of a Russian hasn't happened during that whole period, but it does frequently happen. And when it does happen. It almost everything on earth goes extinct. So the, the one that was two hundred and fifty million years ago in Siberia that was the biggest one. And at that point, I think ninety six percent of all marine species went extinct within a couple of million years. And so, for that extinction event that one is called they call it the end Permian event or the great dying for a poetic term for it. And then the other one at the end of it was sixty five million years ago, we talked about the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs at around the same time, there was a volcanic eruption of enormous magnitude India, and so people go back and forth as to which one of those things was the real killer. Coincidental thing. Or do you think those are related well, some people thought that the asteroid might have caused the volcanic eruption? But then it's tough to tell because it seems like the volcanic eruption started a little bit before the asteroid hit. So it seemed like it probably just really bad luck. And so, yeah, these volcanic eruptions happened on lots of the other planets, as well. And on the moon, if you look at this, the face of the moon, it's mostly kind of light grey, and it has a dark gray spots on it, and the all those dark, gray spots, are these kind of love events. And so the mission is to go there and to drop down into this pit, which is about three hundred and fifty feet deep and at the bottom, it has enormous tunnel. We don't know how far back goes just a cave in the moon and the idea is to repel down the side of this wall with this Rover and take a look at all the layers of lava down that, you know, three hundred feet and see it's kind of like the Grand Canyon like a history of the moon kind of exposed in. The wall of this pit. So that's what I'm working on. So it's a it's a contest. Everyone has different missions, they'd like to go to different places like Neptune or Venus or asteroids, and they all write a proposal and they say, hey, NASA, pick me pick me and this time, Nasr's probably going to choose to which would launch in two thousand twenty five two thousand twenty seven time period. So we're one of the, you know, maybe, you know, doesn't or two dozen missions, that's going to be proposed to this contest. I can't propose anything. It's just people like you, can we all just kind like float an idea pass kind of GI over there. We have some good ideas. Yeah. I think this time we've been working on this proposal for about a year and a half. And so your free time you work. Yeah. Like I think even right now we could probably come up with like, oh, yeah. Maybe fly a jet Beck jet pack to the rings rings of Saturn is kind of just if you could. Hours. What's they're just check. That's cool. Trick on it like one cool trick like one I mean, that would be good publicity for NASA. If we could get like some high quality footage of us, like, you know, like grinding rails, Saturn, a red bull thing even compromise. Yeah. We could do like a like this bowl that you're talking about sounds like scalable. So, right. Feel like maybe we do your thing another time. But then this time for just to get more is on it money. Get the space ending. We will you want to space to trend. Yeah. And so, I think if we go energy drink to, you're listening, whatever sponsorship, right? Yeah. So, so I mean, yeah, that's what I have to say about your, your Naff of research. I too stupid to ask questions about it. No, I do I have some I have some I have some genuine questions here. Okay. So are there like factions of NASA or factions of the space exploration community that are like we? We need to be on the moon. That's the only place we should be focusing our efforts, and then you have other people that are like, it's most important that we look at asteroids, like, what are the what's the sort of infighting that makes you guys decide the priority in sort of the solar system. Yeah. So there actually are factions and we divide them up into so-called analysis groups, and then they hell of name. So they'll be me pag is the Mars, one Mars exploration program. Analysis grip or something then league as a cool name. That's the moon one lunar exploration script. But then the small bodies like asteroids comets there, there's this called s bag. Or just an unfortunate name, small buddies analysis groups, so every ten years, we get together and everyone kind of fights. And then we write a document saying, this is our priority for the next decade. And then NASA kind of follows that priority when they're thinking about what missions to send, so the big, huge missions, they're always have to be written in this document. And then they have a medium mission class that they have a whole list of a bunch of them that you have to choose from one of those in order to, if you want to propose a mission, and then at the smaller class, which is this class that I'm doing, it's you can choose, you can say whatever you want, and you have to grounded in the document is Eli, everyone wants to learn this thing about love us. So therefore, I am I have a love related mission. But you can think of whatever you want whatever goal. But yeah, there's, there's the science fighting between locations and things you want to solve and then there's also broader NASA, which is the human exploration program and the sign. Expiration program and they all have their own directorates. And so we call them, the human people. And then we are like the robot people. And then there's some technology people and some 'aeronautics people Google. And but so, so those arguments are mostly founded on, like, is it is it is it, what you would glean from the mission, and do all of those things tie back to, like, okay, so you're talking about. We want to essentially look layers of rock to determine sort of the history of the moon by looking at all. So, is it because the moon will tell us something about earth, or right? Okay. So the we kind of have to you can't just say, I wanna learn about this three of the Mon because you don't get enough buy in, if you just go there, you have a huge moon community. They're, they're already you're preaching to the choir. Of course. Let's go to the moon. But if you want to get people to sort of buy into your concept, then you have to say, what is the moon gonna tell us about everything else, or about a fundamental process of the solar system. So, in our particular case, we're learning about lava invoking. Mm-hmm. And vocalism specifically in the fact that every planet goes through this sequence where they first form and they have an original crest and then the inside of the planet melts and then recovers resurfaces, the crest with lava that, that happens to all the plants happens to earth. And so all almost all the planets in the solar system, are at that second stage where the whole surface has been covered in lava, and then they're just, that's where they ended like Venus and Mars and mercury, but then the moon is, is and the earth kept going. So it kept it has played tectonics, as we learned in the movie keeps cycling. Rock, and then it gets less of interesting volcanoes in crests, and continents and things that all the other planets, don't have. And the moon is on the other side of this spectrum where it had its original crested originally had, it basically stopped. It had a little bit of organism that came up in resurface just the dark parts of the moon and then it's frozen in time forever. And so we can go and see the original primary crest and then the secondary crest still preserved whereas everywhere else they're gone. And so that's why the moon is important to tell us about what's going on with the other planets show. Are we on, like a sort of third crust, is that? And I mean, hey, knock going to sleep. Well tonight, is there a fourth cross more crust common. Well, so the earth is, you could call it a third crest, but it's really been resurface many, many times they're just keeps constantly resurfacing itself. That's why when you look at the moon or other planets, they're covered in craters, and the earth. You don't you see one or two craters? If you know where to look, otherwise it's completely fresh. And that's because it keeps melting, and so the every time you melt the crest, you get a rock with a little bit more silica in it. And so is the. Does that the gel that comes in like a new you by? Wait. Why can't I eat that? For you because it looks yummy. And they told me I can't. They just put it in there as a desiccated, so it just it just absorbs water a desiccated something that absorbs water. Yes. Water. Yes, right. Yeah. It does get it. Yeah. It and so they put it in something if there's going to be something that sweats. Then they put the little silica in there, so that it absorbs all the water that would have come out of that. And so that thing doesn't go bad. I don't know if I if I eat it would it be like drinking a bottle of water. Would it hydrate me? No. Because it looks. Yeah, that's that it does. But what happens when the silica gel is full, like how much water take? I'm not sure. See this is it's like it's literally like the listener at home is like got no get back to the fucking. And it's like no, no listener. I want you to understand. I'm so stupid that it's like an endless, you know what, you know. And they like rerouted, the lava I do know that. Yeah, basically, the information you're telling me is lava, and the city that is my mind will never burn down, because it is, so hollow, and full of massive tunnels, where information should be that all of your data is going to flow right into their right into the position straight up. You're going to run out of lava before I'm done learning things, so stupid and have that much space in my brain. Well, maybe by your third crust. This is true. Start absorbing info. So essentially the earth is in this, like, dynamic place where it continues to resurface, perhaps forever, or eventually, it will run out of heat and Venus, should have had about the same heat as we did because it's about the same size and but then you're also counting on how much radioactive material you had in to keep you are. And that's what we. I don't know about Venus, because when we look at Venus's surface, it was clearly resurface by catastrophic volcanoes about half a billion years ago. The whole surface resurfaced by volcanoes, but then since then not a lot has been happening on, Venus. So is it still alive inside have lava flows? Actually, one of the other missions that I'm competing against his looking into those kinds of questions on this going to be. To be. I gotta be honest with you. I sounds like a pretty important mission. He accidentally sold at one. Yeah. I don't know how much I like the moon tunnel, now, I kind of want is the hot, Venus called, Venus. Experiment is a little interesting to me. Maybe call them up and get them in here. That's already go. I have I have a question that might be a, a I mean, I guess, a pitch for a movie if volcano can be a movie go. It it be bad or good. If all the magma inside the earth's core or that layer of the earth's core were to just turn to rock and get cold. Would that be good or bad? It kind of depends I guess, in some ways, it's bad. Because we're constantly losing out miss fear to space, and if and then what happens now is, there's a lot of atmospheric gases that are trapped inside the earth, and they come out through volcanoes. So volcano is like a atmosphere factory. And so if you should off all the volcanoes, and then you just continue to lose atmosphere than eventually, you'll lose all your atmosphere and says some people think that's what happened to Mars that it stopped being active, and then it's a little small, you know, smaller than we are. And so couldn't hold onto its atmospheric very, well, it lost all of its atmosphere. Here it is today, but a planet like Venus, it, it hasn't been very active, but in the past, it was very, very active, and it has atmosphere. So dense that it would take billions of years to get rid of it. This should be the whole pug. I ask a question that I never talk again. You don't I mean I mean that's pretty much what it is. That is what I try to get the hell out of the way. I know. And I feel an obligation to like goof around and be smart, but it's like someone just sat here told me that Mars atmosphere floated away into space warts. Yeah. Hey someone. Tell me this before. Well, maybe we don't know this for sure, right? Ration- actually that we sent to Mars recently called maven, and it's whole job is to measure in the current day, how much atmosphere marris's learning losing space, and then we can use that to calculate backwards in time to figure out how thick Mars is atmosphere was in the past to try to figure out what was probably cook. And on Mars. It's time, like would life have been possible, when they had an atmosphere, that could we make an atmosphere? Yes. What? Wait hang on. So here's the thing. I think we might have touched on this when we were talking about total recall will recall because there's two things that could happen to the Martian atmosphere. One can flow in space me. Forever to it can be trapped in minerals on the surface of the planet. And so the more trapped in minerals. The more still there to then be released again. And so you could actually reverse what's happened on Mars instead at the in the nineties, everyone thought, oh, Mars is going to be covered in these rock called carbonate. It's full of CO two, you could release it all make this dense co two atmosphere and. Everyone a live happy happy ever after. But then when we went to Mars with a bunch of missions, we, we couldn't find any carbonate rocks than we realized. Oh my gosh. Did all the atmosphere get lost his base? And it's less forever. That's what we're faced with right now that so maven. Oh, hey, Dan, see. It's not smart. Trying to be smart. They had to say it, it's, it's not it's a it's by law who have a disease, I had to say that is cancelled. He made me watch volcano. And then he said that so maven listen, I wanna play a game that brings us back to volcano. Is that? All right. Yes. Okay. So this game is called. It's a famous game. Everybody knows we're going to play it. How much do you volcano? So I'm going to ask you make for the answers, and then hopefully Dr Laura Kerber will know the answer. And if not, I haven't here in a piece of paper and keep in mind, these are answers from the internet. So you probably know more than. What I have here. Okay. Are you ready? Let's do it. Okay. How large is the danger area around. Volcano. As well. What kind of answer my giving? Here's this lady. Yeah, exactly. And you just said in miles piles pro. Feet. Well, you just play your hand. Okay. How big is it? Okay. Well, I'm thinking about that one that exploded in Washington that seemed to be a problem for a lot of people, I'm going to say forty miles. Okay. I don't know. Depend on what McCain. Oh, okay. Yeah. The scientists always say, by the way. By the way, we always say it depends. Yeah, yeah. Because the volcano like the wind volcano, it's so much less explosive, but then the big explosive volcanoes like Mancino ones, and then the thing about mount Saint hones is everyone was like, oh, yeah. I'm a certain number of miles away, you know, ten or twenty miles away. I I'm very safe. But then when that came and went off the whole volcano split in half and the entire half. The volcano went tumbling towards all the people and a bunch of all canal diet, even though they calculated where they thought they should be that one really cool like a photo of, of vulcanologists that like did die. And he's he likes fell on his camera film. Right. Like that was the deal really. I didn't even know. This is just such a like read it headline like again, I- comedian, I'd dumb, but I, I saw that. In fact, it half it's split to completely ridiculous. Oh, city want to take it. It's about a twenty mile radius and say what did I say forty it's pretty good shit. Sorry, I'm gonna Liz, you'll be fine. Okay. What percentage of the earth's surface is volcanic in origin? Ten percent Ethan, I'm going to say I mean I know it's more than two-thirds. So okay, I'm gonna guess, like seventy percent more than eighty percents. It says yo I've also do. What's up with the other parts? What does it this old rock old mountains? Sedimentary racks, like the Rockies. For example, those aren't volcanoes. Just like those actually are come from way beneath the earth, and so they're thrust up. Oh, so we're tectonic plates bump into each other forever, and the Himalayas to, like India came sailing to the north and crashed into Asian and made the Himalayas. So you have loved the mountains in crunch mountains, exactly. For example, like, the, the cascades in Washington, Israel amends, the Andes a lot of those volcanoes. But mountains like the Rockies and the Himalayas are tectonic men's, and then but then the entire ocean for there is nice Ed two-thirds is the entire ocean floor is volcanic. That makes sense. Yeah. Volcanoes feel like exotic to me because it's they're always like in like Italy, or like Hawaii. They're always like a vacation destination. It's so weird to me like mount Saint Helen's is like, yeah, it's like they can pop up anywhere LeBron carpets. I mean you never know what the movie teachers who. You never know. Never know never backyard Wilshire. Okay. Here's another one. How many active volcanos are there on earth? They're ethan. There are twenty five hundred active volcanoes on earth. Okay. I would say hundreds, okay. Like four hundred four hundred very close. It says more than five hundred okay and more than half of these volcanoes are part of the ring of fire, which is a region that encircles the Pacific Ocean. Yeah. Polynesia sounds very scattered. I don't know if Polynesia's the thing. I just know that at, at DisneyWorld there's the Polynesian resort, and it's vaguely volcano reminiscence. Okay. So that's kind of what I know about that. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Just kind of to goddess back to LA baby. I learned in fact, I realized today I walked by somebody down here watching Romeo must die. If you remember this movie and no, I don't remember jet Li's Romeo must die. Romeo must die hip hop. Karate movie. Okay. Just me. Anyways, there's a part of the movie where like a gangster is talking about crabs and he's like that's weird thing about crabs you know, they won't tries to get out the other one's pulling back down. And I always remembered that fact because Romeo must die price guy sinking into the lava part of all Keno like that. Enduring part of crabs early gained a box, and they like you know, they're climbing over each other and one gets close to the top the other crabs will drag him back down. They won't let him escape do their communists. I love it. If we're down here we're all down here. Yes. Daddy. Daddy. Okay is the sound of an eruption, quiet or loud. I mean, come on asking questions is a trick question, obviously. Okay. Listener. I want you to Email Ethan again. That's, that's fine. It's at secret dot com. It's fucking loud. Obviously, right? I hate to this is a trick. Yeah. I mean, again, it depends on the volcano but they can be very loud. There was one that was so loud that everyone heard it around the whole world. Yeah. The show were it's like the shot heard round the world is like the volcano hurl urged like, within a thousand miles of weight, literally that was that was that Krakatoa is that real. And it was I think it was in eighteen fifteen. Wait. That was like two days ago. What krakatoa? A long time. Well, I mean it's called Krakatoa that sounds like some game of thrones. Tells angel where was Krakatoa by the way, I think it's near Indonesia. Because it's on the ring of fire because if you think about it, there's nominees in Indonesia, volcanic eruptions, Japan, there's earthquakes, California, there's earthquakes, there's volcanoes in the cascades, in Washington, the Aleutian islands. All of that is part of the ring of fire and the Andes also, and all of the wall canines, and Central America's will. Nice place to live the ring of fire the Philippines, where we live. Is it not? Yeah. Yeah. It is. I'm gonna tell you on that in the second I wanted to ask about the sound thing because I read that they can be quiet, which I thought was, like Hawaii ridiculous to me. I just didn't know that at all. I because I had on a different podcast. We were talking about the loudest natural sound, and that was the volcano. So I was like, oh, all volcanoes are just super frigging loud. And so to read that they could be client and make just like these hissing noises when they -rupt was incredible to me. Video on YouTube of kind of in, like in the movie where the lava starts coming out of the ground. They have a video where that actually happens someone steak, the video, they're walking around and this Fisher, they're taking out this Fisher, and then lava distantly comes up through the Fisher and starts going. And then like they're like, all right. We gotta get ear twenty miles away. Okay. Wait. So I, I have a question to interrupt your collision, but or your questions. But and this is relative to the movie, by the way, if anybody's listen to this foreign lake hasn't seen the movie has seen it for a long time. Basically, it very bad movie. Tommy Lee Jones spills breakfast food than he goes to where there's a very steamy pie pieces teaming pipe. Not so good that someone goes down there. There's lava other guys, there's a law on no gun, Tommy Lee Jones, starts running around. Everybody's running around everybody for the rest of the movies, only yelling and running. Yeah. Only even in the command center, if you look in the background the extras that are in there. Never stop moving emergency situation. Man. It's like guy sit down to your fucking desk, and do some work. Then why don't we there's no time doodoo mail? There was Email in one thousand nine hundred seven or whatever everyone had to be on the phone and beefing. Everybody's running papers around the office constantly that happens for two hours, lava goes everywhere. They're basically, they knocked down a building next to the Beverly center in twenty minutes in twenty minutes, building, it stops, a flow of lava as ability is falling. It's about two Tommy Lee Jones daughter. But luckily, he's able to sprint one hundred yards and move her three feet away. It was very funny. He was Johm owner. So stupid and rescues her from a falling building. Yeah. And also. Yeah. So anyway, that's what this movie is. But so as you can imagine what had just subscribe and just describe there's a lot of lava moving towards people. Yes. And so my question is, if you're like trying to escape from lava like there's a gentleman who tries to jump off of a train with a person he saving. He can't out jump the lava. So he jumps into the lava and throws a man out of the range of the lava. But can you fuck in stand next to lava like that in just street clothes? You so as someone who stood next lava, you can be within a couple of feet of it will in. It's not a big deal. It depends on how hot it is. And how fast it's slowing. But I say I was within I mean I walked up to it, and I took my hammer and I stepped my hammer into the Laba. To get some love out. Good. I had to put my sweatshirt in front of my face because it was so hot. So usually wear like a suit made out of aluminum foil, and then you can stick your hammer. I work for NASA had like they're like, yeah, just take the city and get. So get a fucking hammer law floor you five win on what you do the hammer also for nails. Well, say geologist's hammer rock hammer. So, yes, always meant to sample, right? If you can look up people sampling lava, it's usually a bunch of geologists, either with their tinfoil outfitter. They haven't brought it along. Then they put their arm in front of their face, and stick their hammer into some lava. And then you bring along a bucket full of water and you put the love right in the book, it, watered a coup it off. What is the hammer made out of is this again? I like just by the F just started watching game of thrones. No spoiler is not going to say any but also, hey, just watch the red wedding last night. Hey ruined my week. That was in the. At some level. Yes. So but does so obsidian like is what first of all, what does the hammer made out of probably steal? What just like from the store? Why like a regular hammer lava is very hot compared to what you would like to touch. But it's not that hot compared to things like steel. Oh shit. Yeah. Pretty cool. What if there was a volcano that just was erupting molten steel that being? Issue. An issue. That'd be like, really bad. Yeah. That'd be pretty hot. Well. And what by the way, what happens if you were to say have a hammer that was forged out of obsidian? Could you put that into love or would that shatter it or something that probably wouldn't be the best idea because obsidian is basically lava, but it's say if, if I take my lava, and I put it right into a bucket of water. I can make something that looks like obsidian because it's a glass, and so I've just taken a liquid and I've quenched it into a glass, and that's kind of what obsidian is. So if you if you heated up again, then, you're just melted again way that you just said that something that looks like obsidian, would it not be obsidian? It would be obsidian as a different composition, but it's still from volcanoes. It's just from slightly different kind of all k- know than the one that interesting. And so this, this lava the, you stuck, your hammer is this red lava or is this kind of like blackish, like looks like burnt toast loves it. It'll be black on the. Outside, and then you stick, your hammer in and you pull it out so that you get the red interior the hot stuff, or we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Is over. Here we go back to the. I can't believe this is so this is also simple more or less. Yeah. Yeah. One time we were out there with a bunch of people, and we were standing around and we met some of our friends who happened to be out in the lava field as well. And we're looking there is a big skylight in the river of lava passing underneath. And so the are the guy who was leading our trip. He was saying, hey, can everyone move about twenty feet this way because you're literally all standing on top of the roof of this lava river, and I'm afraid there's too many of you and you're going to collapse into the labyrinth in the me, lose the whole, you know, Mars orbiter team all at once. And but yes, we moved to the side, but we could look down into this window and you could see the law river of lava passing underneath you. And so we, it was lunchtime. So we made a bunch of Britos cook them on the fishers, and then we've through the aluminum foil into the lava tube. And then we were all joking because, you know, some geologists was going to find this rock can be like, oh, it's anonymously aluminum rich. And it's like in reality. It's just a bunch of scientists literary. Cool because you you'd throw like an apple core in there. And the apple corridas fall sit right on top of the Lavin and slew sink down into it show. Okay. This is another question. If you did say just for a second like accidentally you're walking around on the field. Lavas very quiet as we've just learned you accidentally just as if dog poop step in a little Bill, then what happens, then you burn so so badly. Really like, but like if you just stick your foot in real quick like oh shit. Like could you are you fine or the thing about love is it sticky? And so if you get on your skin or something like that you're like, oh, that was hot. It's six two. So it would just continue to burn. You does it like until you did? Tommy Lee Jones daughter. You know they were kind of near the love, and it was like, yeah. So matter like it, doesn't it doesn't do that. Okay. So one time when I was out in the love of field, we were standing there watching some lava come down a hill, and I was thinking, well, my feet are really hot, you know, and then we're watching the lava it was kind of dusk and so really pretty. And then we realized that so quietly, another river of lava had come on the other side of us. And so we're almost in a situation where we were going to be cut off from escaping because we had rivers allow on either side, and they're not very deep rivers Volvo, but you can't cross them. If they're you know, you can't like just a moment. I put my foot in the lobby the floor literally was love. Well, then I was thinking my feeder, feel, so hot, the lavas Furner a couple like seven feet away, and then I realized, no, the lavas actually under us, and we were standing on a crest, and there was lava under us, it's like by a foot or two like filtering through the lava rocks underneath, and so then I went we. We kinda left him. We went to another place to get the lava with my rock hammer. And that's when my friend she was taking a picture of me next to the lava, and I was like, you know, my feet really hurt and, and they're getting quite hot. And I'm have to what you said, just a minute, just for the picture, you know, these selfie deaths. And so then, you know, the these show, Southie selfie lavas, and so actually melted, the souls off my shoes and from standing there. Yeah. And so the lo I had like the souls that had fallen off my shoes, because the glue at all melted. And so, then I had to tie them back on with para cord because I had to hike like five or six miles out through the lava field to get like the film where they got like sticky milky. It was a little different because the rubber had melted. It was just the glue that attached the rubber soul to my shoe. So what, what volcanologists always do is they buy shoes that are stitched on. And they cost a lot more money and the ones that are glued on yet because I didn't even know. I didn't even know about what's the problem dangerous how being a being volcanologist is that do a lot of people died, if sometimes people die people die. Yeah. Like there's some if you think about the famous vulcanologists through history there, you'll be like, oh, yeah. This. There is a couple that would go around setting while canines they died, and in specific events. You might lose like one or two volcanologist close because they're too close to him. Sounds like you've view. No Dodgson bullets here, some lovable. It's been really close of how many times have you seen lava. I've only seen a couple times, actually because I steady mostly volcanoes on other planets, but I like to try and get out into the earth and then study lava in person sometimes time. Okay. I have a few more games here is rock is formed through the cooling ends liquefication of magma or lava, we know this, but what are the other two types of rock Ignatius rock is kind of say it again. You don't have to say with how the other ones form, I was just saying to review what we already know. Right. Rock is formed through the cooling and solidification of magma, or lava, there's two other types of rock sedimentary rocks. And, and. Asteroids from outer space, metamorphised, rock grog. That's correct. Yes. Sedimentary my dear Watson. And then I never met I didn't like. Now, you see. That's why I'm not a comedian to that is true. You guys are all under arrest for making. Great. Skill. It's true. This one, I'm still trying to find out what mine is this one? I want you to answer in jeopardy format. Okay, so answering the question. What is? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. A unique volcanic rock that can float in water. It can also be used in beauty salons for removing dry skin. What is charcoal? That's probably not true. It's a good guest, though. What is upset in? What is pumice plummets down? Yes, I value might get that one. But that's okay. Great. Thanks, man. They have all these legends that if you're Japanese fishermen, and you're going around fishing in the sea, then you see all the pumice around your ship, then you have to get out of there immediately because they know there's volcano probably erupting under the ocean. But what happens is the volcano erupts under the ocean. And it has lots of its releasing all this gas into the water column, and then your ship is buoyant in water. But if you're ship is not buoyant and gas, plus water. Which is less dense and so your ship could instantly sink hopeful. And that's the kind of stuff that happened around Japan. And so people have legends and to warn them about such things do doubt fuck you up, so much to you'd literally spent hundreds of years trying to unpack that. And just like making up legends be a mystery of the town. Oh, no. And just be like, oh, they were cursed. And by the way, if somebody if I saw that happen and someone was like, well, that was a fuck in monster that sucked it under huge squid. And then you said, no, actually, it was a volcano. And the what the density of the water changed because of the gas and water combination I'd be like, hey, you're lying. You're a witch for sure. And the monster things real. It's easier explanation. The earth is six thousand years old. That's what Kevin said. How many degrees Kevin is? Okay. I have I have a lot of other great stuff, I wanna touch on here guys. For example, this is a really stupid one. And I feel like Mickey since now, I've gotten a feel for your, your movie taste, and, and your age. No just the time period here, Kerber might be closer. And hey, ch-. I believe it's pronounced who was in this movie lead ins movie. She was in four huge movies in ninety seven. Do you end of all Kino's one of them? So there's three other ones you want to guess maybe what they were. She now dude because you know why I looked on Wikipedia while I was watching it. I looked at the director of this, and I looked at, like, I just looked at a bunch of people's Wikipedia is. But now it all like mix together in my head. Right. I know that he she's not in the bodyguard, right. No, I think director of the made the bodyguard. That's right. Okay. Then yeah, I don't know. But I looked I looked it up, actually because I was like, well, she's fantastic in this movie dreadfully underused? I mean, there's at one point, she's the only scientific expert they have, and Tommy Lee Jones is like I don't know like the head of like the water department or some. Up off emergency management. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, hey, not real. And even if it is shouldn't be. Do. She's the only science expert on fucking volcanoes. She's right there. And he's like, hey, go find my daughter at the applebees, or whatever the it's like dude. Kill yourself, bro. There's one person that knows about lava, and you just sent her to babysit also, I gotta say, there's some definite like romantic tension between the two of them that they try and build up and it's so weird. Like they, you remember the they're pushing the bus was weird. You know what I'm talking about right there, all pushing the bus, and it's like as if there's no time he just like basically is on top of her and puts his arm like through her arm, so they're like touching and they don't know each other at all right? He's clearly way older than her. I don't know. Crazy weird. It's also it's one of those like disaster movie things where like at the beginning. He's got to see his kid, but he's like obsessed with his job as the like wrecking emergency eve, attachment guy. Yeah. Like dude. Hey, don't be fashioned about that pro do he's, he's controlling the whole situation man. He's commanding everybody. Yeah. Like the movies, pushing this, like he's addicted to work narrative, the whole time, and then the other guy don't she does characters like, but I'm also addicted or like what if? You're maybe if you we trusted each other one of us could take vacation every once in a while. Exactly like, you know, I sleep on your desk and it's like, hey guys, what's this movie about it? And if there's not emergency going on what are they doing? LA. There's constantly an emergency all the time. I guess this is true. Yeah. At the end of the movie where they're like. Oh, yeah, the volcano is over. But there's a bunch landslides happening up north and my Greg. Like I've learned my lesson those people can die. Yeah. And then, and then Don Cheadle is like, oh, boy, I get to work for the government. Right. Down. Let's do this doesn't make any sense. Yeah. But then there's that moment where she like touches his face. Yes. And, and it's very like the disaster movie thing of, like, oh, like his real ex wife is yelling at him in the beginning, right? He drops the eggs. And now it's like the end of the movie where she touches his face. And then it's nice and it's like oh, I'm your new wife because we got along during the bad thing. Yeah. That's the whole aids. Very strange. I was just so happy, they didn't kiss. I couldn't remember, if they did or not. It's always watching the movie thinking, if they kissing this frigging film, I'm gonna lose. I'm so glad that it did have there were a couple of like, really distinct things about this type of movie that I noticed that, that I don't know that I okay, first of all, this is such a movie that you're babysitter's husband would have on. This is like for me. Yeah. That. Yes, I'm getting babysat and you put on volcano thrilled nightmares about that guy. Lava forever. And which, by the way, I did want to throw out here and I'll just mention real quick in haste movies where Donnie Brasco volcano. I know you did last summer and wag the dog. Wow, that's amazing. And then what happened or that's what I was thinking. She's so good. Get a ton of stuff. Yes, she works in TV. She's she's been like the, the like series rag, or like a lead on, like a couple of show. She's doing really, well tastic actress, she's great actor. I read somewhere online that they were saying that you wouldn't melt like that, especially so fast that you would just like die on top of lava, and then just be on top of lava on fire. I mean real that's kind of like what we found when we throwing the apple core in the lava it just sits there on top the love for quite a long time before it finally, slowly sinks in. Yeah. Because that got melded sufficed. Hey, quick legs were gone and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Great. Also in movies like that, dude, it was just like a moment in time with movies where the plot with every single, teen character was will they get a piercing or not, so many episodes of television true will they get a piercing or not like that was the eternal struggle? What did he say? There was a line where she says on the phone like what about my piercing? I thought it was going to get. Her weird babysitters like oh, that's a good look great. When you blow your nose. Yes. And then he gets off the phone. And he's like, my, my daughter's going to get a tattoo, we'll see this life or like something weird, like, like, what is it? Like what like what is this, like weird fuck in God, I'm blanking? What's that dance? Movie. Dirty dirty dancing. No. What's the one about a dance? Full footloose footloose attitude is Nasser. Yeah. He's across the old man. Also, another thing, it's like completely evaporated from, from movies is like a character sticking gum on things. I swear to God I used to see people stick gum on things all the time would call a never see it anymore. The quintessential nineties movie. Yeah. It really is such a nineties movies hits everything. On the head of the speed. And including Tommy Lee Jones yelling over a map three times counted. He's yelling at he's got a map, and he's pointing to the map and he's yelling at other people, and I swear to grace, this happens in other Tommy Lee Jones got to happen in the fugitive. It's gotta happen in US marshals I want someone out there. Please make a super cut an Email me. Tommy Lee Jones yelling over maps. Yes. It's really it's, it's like it also when you're watching it because again, I looked it up in the middle and it's. Ninety million dollar movie. And it's incredible. How far CGI has come because now even these like B movies that, you know, the entire game is they make a title similar to a real movie and hope that you buy it on demand by accident. Like that's like a business model. Right. Like even those movies, look better than this movie. Looks there a few shots? And, and I looked at up and I, I don't have the information firm me, but I was reading about how it was like, ten different companies that were in charge of the special effects, and that it just clearly so long. It was like three hundred plus people doing it. And yet still some of those scenes just look crap. Oh, yeah. It's terrible. But it just trying to think back at the time at the time it was totally convinced by. Wow. The special effects are made like before going into it because I again probably haven't seen it since then I was like this is gonna be so sick. I'm gonna love every summer to be totally engulfed at I was taken out of it. So many times it just looked anytime. They showed the tarp. It's like that first eruption and the Laval's coming out of there. It looked ridiculous dude. I'm not gonna lie. And I mean, this is not because I'm some. Kind of special effects person or whatever. But, like I know after effects like I used after like that was like my job for a long time I did. And it's just like dude, you can on your computer at home, make affects that look much better. Can I can I pitch that we do some sort of? I don't care what it is. I don't care what the plot is right here. How long it is a web series if you want. But let's do something where we can utilize lava effects lease. We don't see lava enough, am I? Right. Absolutely right. I love this movie volcano, but it's because I have so few other choices right? Missing out on these volcano film, and I just can't possibly enjoy this one because when I I'm like, I'm just an age where the first disaster movie that I really saw was like the day after tomorrow, like that's already entry into the genre, and it feels like that was like, pretty advanced special effects. Now sure if I go back to it, I doubt it holds up super, well, well, that's still what twenty twenty five years after now. It's like wasn't a twenty twelve or something now twenty twelve is a different movie. Yeah. I never saw. Yeah. So maybe we'll do. I mean, guys, I have so many, we're running out of time, but I've so many questions about the tar pits about why the whole LA thing like how screwed are we because it's a geologically unstable area. Do you want to touch on? So we're on the edge of the ring of fire, but we're in this very interesting part of it, where most of the ring of fire the Pacific plate is plunging underneath the continental plates and then it melts. And then you always volcanoes step in. But in this particular area LA, instead of a plunging played. It's just a sliding plate along the San Andreas. So if you ever wanted talk about San Andreas about another mazing Phil. I haven't seen them. I call it film. Yet, it's a movie starring the rock about rocks. Has Caltech in it. This here we are in LA, and it's and we're just sliding along. And that's the San Andreas fault. And so we get instead of we don't have any volcanoes here. That's I, I'd like to say volcano isn't so bad. I thought it would be worse like geologically, speaking, the only bad thing is that the whole premise of the whole thing, which is that there's volcano under LA that's just not reasonable to think that that would happen. But then if you assume that, that happened all the stuff that then follows from that is not that bad, the lavas like weight faster than it should be and stuff like that. But nothing about. So here we are in the LA basin. The whole basin is underlain with faults. And so they causing earthquakes all the time, and it's just gonna continue appaling for as long as we're here. Everyone's kinda waiting for the next two jobs, quake to strike, and actually, the whole mountain range, that's to the north of LA the San Gabriel's. Those are all as a result of there's a kink in that fault. It's trying to slide along, and then it's got a little. Kink in the fault, and that keeps going sliding on and so at that there's a lot of stress there. And that made all of those mountains for their some of the fastest growing mountains in the world. So you're not afraid to live here. A little bit. You know, and said, geologists I if you are want to be a professional geologist you have to take an entire additional like multi, our test to be a geologist LA in California in general because of all the earthquakes. So I if I lived in LA, I would not live on a hill, a lot of people live near the on the hills, and they get the fires that come through first of all, and then the fires get rid of all the trees and then the then it usually rains. And then the without the vegetation, this hills are unstable. So they all collapse in these landslides, and then you get a bunch of quakes, and it's like the earthquakes trigger landslides, and all this kind of stuff. So it's a very, it's not a safe place to live like, but if you do wanna live somewhere in LA, I would live somewhere, not on hill, and just on a regular normal kind of flat area, my dream, if I ever get richest to move to Hancock park, I feel like that'd be like it good. Is that safe? That is it's like pretty flat there. How big and then the other part is to kind of have your building buildings up to code. So a lot of times if earth bigger quake happens in some other countries. See huge amount of devastation that same level earthquake could happen here and there's not nearly as much damage because all of the buildings are built with special architecture, so that they don't fall down in earthquake not all the buildings. Let me tell you this shit, dude. I moved into this place. I don't live there. Now, I'd literally moved out because, well, because it was you know, I didn't move out run away from this. I'm not making these kind of executive decisions controlling my life. It's not going that wealth, folks, but I lived in this place and suddenly, there was all this construction, and we get like the building sends out a memo just like oh, hey sorry about all the construction. I was like, yeah, they're like remodeling and making a new unit. They're gonna maybe make ours. This is great. They're like ever doing some earthquake retrofitting. And I was like, oh my God, that's so annoying. And then I thought, wait, was it? Not safe before the whole time. Is that what that means? You probably not what you could just do that. You just not. Well, so the buildings are kind of grandfathered, and we have this same thing, JPL where all of our new buildings are earthquake proof. And then all of the older buildings aren't if we ever take them down or remodel them than we have to bring them up to code. And so what happens is they just don't bring them up to code, and they just stayed the way they are forever, so that they can be grandfathered in, because it's really expensive to bring it up to code. It seems very expensive doing construction basically the entire year and a half that I lived there and they're still not done. Yeah. Oh, that's a union thing. Let's have a conversation about that. They better get finished before the big one hits. Yeah. What kind of tease is that when is that half how well we don't know. What's the thing? That's the other very good thing about scientists in this movie. Volcano. She's he's always like so what's going to happen? She's like no. Right. That's what we always say that is a good answer proof. It's very unpredictable where where should we move probably? Buffalo New York, I'm not going to live in bummer. Really? Volcanologists who lives in Buffalo New York, and ask like, why do you live in Buffalo New York? It's about as far away from volcanoes you could possibly get. And the volcanologists was like exactly. Chris. Mean Great Plains of tornadoes, and other places you have hurricanes and floods, and yeah. But if you live in both. You do have to worry about the hazard of drinking yourself to death, because there's nothing do, right? Suicides sneak up on you in buffalo. It's true. Yeah. It'll really can't can't retrofit your house for that folks. Still remodeling advice is just rent, you know. So then when your house gets destroyed advice stairwell, advise rent because you're going to get destroyed, again, I worry about all the time 'cause I go over friends houses, and I see not only are they on a hill. But the way that they're held up is like a wooden column. That's just holding up like half their house, and that's not safe. Right. Well, so I was roommates with a structural engineer. And so she was like, oh, no, it's fine. We know what we're doing and I was like, I'm the geologist. It's not fun. Can't control nature dude. Wait. Also, the idea of a geologist and a structural engineer living together in LA arguing. Sitcom. Yeah, it is a house on a hill. So. Tension, bill. Oh my God. I love it. Okay. So again, I'm gonna try and just like lightning through these if that's cool. You you've mentioned, we were talking a little bit before that, like this has happened somewhere like something like volcano has a similar thing, right? So last year in Hawaii, okay, which is the more reasonable place for this to happen. They had the volcano was updating calmly as it usually does. And then it's a bunch of fissures opened up all the way down front, down the hill from the volcano in this suburban areas with lots of houses and stuff. And so they have all the videos of people. Here's my house, and here's a giant Fisher that's open and then law started pouring out of these fishers, and it erupted all last summer just huge amounts of lava, and it's funny because I say the Lavin in volcanoes to fast. Usually love is a lot slower. The lava that erupted last summer super fast like flowing like a raging river. Soc- just because it had a was really low viscosity. It was ended. And there are a lot of it was coming out at once. Viscosity does that happen because it's so hot? Yeah. If it's really hot it can be low viscosity or if the chemical composition is little different. It can also change the viscosity of the lava. So what did they do? They put us at a bunch of cement, blocks and then, helicopter, shop water, basically, they couldn't do anything. They had to evacuate the whole area and then the volcano destroyed everything in its path until it was stopped. And now it stopped and nothing is ripping kilowatt has been updating since like nineteen Eighty-three or something like that. And so now it stopped, and so everyone's like, okay, I guess it's over I guess, but we you know, or else it's building up pressure somewhere deep down. It's going to explode all at once they don't know. So it's super MRs Noida measures to throw one of your two Wheeler Rover. What they do is they, they measure quakes. And so that's how they you know, not every I don't think anyone died in this particular thing because they had bunchers quakes out of time, and they said, oh, my gosh. Something terrible happening. And then when the lava came up at first came up quite slow, so they got everybody out of their head airlifts. Some people out by helicopter got surrounded by rivers of lava that everyone of my friends is like we're going, why let's go yet. Of course, the poorer, Tommy Lee Jones, probably in charge of the Hawaiian patroller, whatever saying, everyone out, perform perimeter, and then all these fall can, I'll just be like I'm going to sneak in with my drone like disrupt everything. So. Also, I gotta say ironic that after all this, it was. In fact, mother nature that paved paradise and put up a parking lot, interesting. Very interesting. Have to go to the museum to see all the trees. It's true. That's right. Damn. Yeah. So how about that? Then mother nature did that. Yeah. Wasn't people rather that way, though, it sounds, which laser actually okay we're out of time? We're going to have to do Dante's peak because I have so many more volcano questions. Yeah. There's just too many to get. I literally have pages that I didn't even touch. For example, they say that the water coming from the helicopters like that would not work at all that, helicopters. Couldn't even fly over lava that the ash would make their like engines, breakdown and go out of control. So that was. Yeah. Also, helicopters. Don't fly in a giant like swarm, like that. What the fuck team? I was thinking is like things that haven't changed in LA. It's like they have way too many frigging helicopters found. That's true. This is true. You're like that's an enormous number of el-khadr is like, yeah. They could probably scrounge that many from just around like what part of elevate couldn't put them over lava. Not too close. They can fly helicopter over lava, but not too close. And there's also really crazy drafts because the heat so the helicopters and stable and then the ash the ash also makes it hard to fly planes to. So if you guys remember when af Seattle Yokel volcano erupted in two thousand and ten Icelandic volcano and shut down all of the world's air traffic for a day. 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#183: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 2 - Men in Black: International

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#183: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 2 - Men in Black: International

"How do we get closer to the line between what you believe someone on the passes an end soon take the session maybe we maybe through the pass but the plants not through without welcome back to the next picture show movie the week podcast devoted to classic film in a way it shaped her thoughts on a recent release i'm key steps here again with scott tobias genevieve kofsky robinson last week we discuss the nineteen ninety seven hit men in black starring will smith and tommy lee jones is agents from mysterious organization created to keep alien visitors to earth in line and under wraps this week will be talking about men in black international which reunites chris worth and tessa thompson to the stars of thor ragnarok directed by f gary grade phone tries rekindled thompson in him source fun chemistry from the war ragnar awkward doesn't quite get there in fact it doesn't quite get anywhere they remain charming but the film find some flailing in the middle of the lifeless story about intergalactic entry its attempt to take the minute black concept out a deep freeze better ride still have frozen but as a key study of how blockbuster so changed over the years and how some franchises kerryon long after they've lost their sport it makes were pretty interesting contrast we'll get to that in a bit first a short break and then let's find out if everyone shares my feelings about men in black international we do recognizable earliest days onto just the previous agent am i believe it will be patient best effort to whether some dressing up in my daily meditation type of lunch i think you it's nine thirty tuesdays talking about something that we've been compromised much for several says it's not just a rich guy you don't just look dry dry fun flip on within there's gonna be a big red button robert somewhat found that you know we all the men well does anyone like this movie i i liked it entirely fine this was an okay movie that was utterly all right yeah i mean i i'm all right so my my kids my shared and she's like that was a really good he wasn't in my wife and i were like yeah sure i never owes actively i remember actively heated at the end i never i would never like a winless end like with with the cubs election in the monsters but he just really didn't have have no what go ahead go ahead i would watch watch last month times before wondering this thing in a recession that's got really hated this yeah okay tell me while i did but i but i think we know jimmy these things i wanna hear what she thinks were oh i mean i think i probably fall kind of where tasha is maybe a little more mad about it like it's taken action that'd be more mad about this hanging out i think swab the ultimate many other movie amuse ends just like man writ large ship this movie is how mac can you be in just like the the word that came into my head like it was hurt like it just it felt like it just sat there it never kicked into another gear there is no like real spark to eight even with these two very sparky stars at the center of it and that was disappointing but but nothing about this film it so i found actively that if that makes sense like i was disappointed but like i wasn't angry at this moment you know just like well that was two hours i spent i'm i'm glad i went to the early show and only paid six dollars for how those michigan prices sounds like he really hated that movie now oh one scott tonight i'll write me yeah i think it's absolutely horrible i don't know why but the the film you're describing you're saying it's amazing how much of a feeling for it i mean to me that's the type of movie the gets me angry a is a movie the just doesn't have anything going for all it's not trying to do anything special it seems to be just almost perversely emphasizing the stuff that isn't working up about it i mean it's like here's a film with his they angel hair plot in tons of it like lots of point you recall what happened in this movie is like a days later the what what happened in the zone right right i mean there's a lot of nonsense and all the men in black movies i mean there's always some sort of like universe threatening staying in even in the first round the black it's like okay there's a cat but like a global around its neck and okay there's a great galaxy around his neck fine but but but this one just keeps piling on his if that is the important part in stopping important part i think there's absolutely no chemistry whatsoever between the stars there's there's no labs weird right because they were good together and throw it right but it really charming people really good actors but but the difference again is like is where's the contrast whereas the comic tension in the movie because the first one is such a model of that have just like giving you these two characters who have who are so different and have a you know in talking about how how much the same they were illegal it's like they come around to it or something right but it's still it's still this kind of bouncy fresh prince character in in this crusty old guy and a swath on the crusty old guy in this case is the rookie tessa titled talking about the original look you're but you're here i mean i think one of the things that's fascinating about men in black international is that on paper a lot of this works really well and seems really thought through you have the rookie coming in a but this time she's the one who's a uptight and to serious and takes everything in a in a grim kind of way and like is really determined to prove herself and then you have these old veteran who this time it's like the loose swaggering bucking authority one who thinks like he could do whatever he wants an it's it's a nice little flip on me original and it also acknowledges just kind of what their strengths are you know him so worth kind of caught that like that lose hip to like look at me i'm great and tessa thompson is really good at the kind of intense try hard like all of this should work and it just doesn't know there's no such attention it will then there's also the emphasis on things that don't matter i mean just it's it's right there in the title it's like who cares if there's stupid agencies around the world who cares like so so so what you're telling me that there's not only men in black in new york there's also one in paris and i mean that's the movie i mean i was i was i was really fine with the whole idea of aliens living among us that i that was but you're exactly they have offices in paris and london do you find like some sort of subway especially if it's amazing but it ties into the other thing the movies tried to be which is basically kind of a science fiction james bond movie with a lot of gadgets in a fancy flying lexus and which i hated us come on just like half a second without some advertisements in the middle of a movie it's just that kind of stuff drives me crazy but it's like it's just not what's good about men in black it's not been a bike is not fun 'cause it's international spy movie i dunno so that's me i i was not i was a strongly against this moving in as far like comparing it something like godzilla king of the monsters i mean we've got our muscles gave us monsters kind of like it's kind of dreams striking images and this just gave me nothing on her i don't even remember much of it i think the fundamental problem here is just that there are arcs there's no sense of the characters like wanting something strongly at the beginning of the film that they get or don't get at the end like tessa thompson really wants to join the men in black but she gets that the fbi but like before the first act is even over an you know it's not gonna be rescinded it's not gonna be taken away from her so she and she's done and then you don't see her continuing to be a try hard you don't see her worrying about her place and the men in black you don't see her worrying about successor failure it's like her arc is completely done the moment the woman emma thompson says okay find you could join and then how worst character we're told repeatedly that he used to be an incredible agent and he's not anymore but we just don't get anything that feels at all like emotional about that we don't get any connection with that hair off for either really it's kind of sets forgotten after a while i'm bringing it up right or good point where you find out that his memories been a race yeah i never feel an actual impact of it yeah i mean there's an interesting article in the in the hollywood reporter out to behind the scenes but it but about how someone is basically being rewritten you know day by day and how tops of henceforth of their own dialogue riders and and and a really does feel stitched together and the director and producer were fighting about what the content in the movie should be in it was originally like a much sharper metaphor throughout about an application to i mean have out to the to the original and i got thrown out or nothing yet how character like really disappointed me how it was wrapped up become kind of alluded to this in the in the last episode the whole thing with the neural wiser and the like finding finding out you're memory was wiped especially for someone who knows what that means and you know and has presumably done it themselves like it seems like it would be really traumatic and were told throughout the movie like he's changed she's different something's wrong wrong with him and then at the end of the way it's like okay something what's wrong with him because he had this experience of being normalized and it changed him and there's just no payoff for that you know like they're like it seems like the film is kind of circling this idea of like ptsd or something you know like there there's a lot going on with that concept they could be like their strength there could be pulled in interesting ways and it's like no now you're the head of the london branch good for you in everyone's once fine you know like so much of this movie it's like there's there's something there that could be interesting like both built into the men in black premise an end to this movie specifically in it just doesn't go anywhere it just is like okay here's some more plot that gets us to another accident scene like the credit you know i did really like be a aliens played by twins who are a dancers and models in choreographers and a whole bunch of different things that they do they work with me on say a bunch yeah they they have interesting careers i just really liked the design of those aliens i found some kind of beautiful and threatening at the same time and i really enjoyed their how it's like intense and threatening their powers seemed to be and that's kind of like endemic to the whole movie because they're really authentically scary at times in a way thee actual threat of the movie the true revealed threat just isn't a in the movie gets rid of them not super early but like way before the final climax in a pretty dismissive off handed kind of way and it's meant to be kind of a false ending it's meant to be kind of a false like oh everybody can relax everything is fine a kind of the ring style thing but it just it doesn't have that impacts like the movies over at the end of the second act okay cool i guess oh there's another threat i don't care about that threat the threat hasn't been set up in a way that makes me invested in it all so what about parmi oh god like honey i i commend engine non giuliani's edge i think is comes across like more than anybody else's like the big problem with the film is there's there's no sense of edge to it it's like it's like the screenwriters really afraid that we might not like are main character's for even a second and it would have been so easy i think to make a thompson like care so much about all of this and and worry about it so much that she's unlikable it would have been easy to make hams worth character a so changed so damage that he's unlikable and then have both of them improve by the end of like move toward each other pani actually you're describing is is a movie like pani says things that are mean i ended up kind of low blows another kind of rude and he's the only person in the film it they trust do that he's so negligible he's so unimportant did they action despite the big moment they give him that he end he's other totally unimportant are really important but i couldn't sorted out because the plot made sense to me like i have no earthly i like i think he's disposable but i'm not sure but i was actually kind of happy to have that character they're just because i think well none johnny has that just came improvised pretty well i mean like he's funny in the film needed some kind of spark and he provides it and nobody else nobody else on screen does the same time he's joe patchy in lethal weapons three it's he hasn't oliver however there's just a light yeah well since that's also kind of forgot about him some time to do a but i i thought i don't value when they're raising innings and he was at i mean it's think bruce prefer forty the pony forci for he does have a an interesting energy going on i just feel like there's so many interesting ideas in this film but don't play out and one of the big ones is the idea that tessa tessa thompson character molly slashed agent am is a huge fan girl for the men in black which is something that a the latest star wars trilogy did with with ray this idea of the new characters are fans of the old character's the new characters are blown away by the characters and so the new characters are meant to represent us looking back on these old character's with like fondness unfamiliarity there's just a sense that like she knows what the men in black are and she she desperately wants to be she's supposed to be are audience avatar onscreen so why is she so boring is very boring yeah they're both pretty well it wasn't what's the deal with this film with the wages telegraphs twist can't like the mall i mean come on you can send as a as a surprise kilter like obviously it's clean inside and then also and then also reappearance of the of a larger version of this creature but she had encountered as a child i mean it looks the same as a big new film makes it makes it seem like it has that review all come to us later it's like we already know that we know who he is i i will i will say my my husband did not see that one coming up and i know sitting there going you you get you know you can't like yeah i like when you when you meet that thing there is no purpose to that scene i mean in syria that's a scene that makes her wanna become a man in black but she makes no damn sense whatsoever the men in black show up in her like oh you've got a super dangerous alien banging around somewhere near your apartment work on i not do anything about were crazy tell you a bunch of stuff you absolutely do not need the no which is kind of a hallmark of all of the men in black movies and then we're gonna race it and why do they keep doing this like why bother tulsa civilians a hey there aliens andrew you've got one of them in your backyard and it's not a raccoon it's totally an alien that were gonna race everything we just said like is it satanism my attempt to justify it is that they're checking for humans who are like you know oh yeah that's my my neighbor daily unlike humans who do know what's going on and when they get that blank look they're like okay it's safe dinner last year but as it plays out in the film it's just kind of like you called the cops on the domestic disturbance next door and they came and ask you a few questions and never went next door like they don't find nearly and they don't even try to get the way yeah i mean i think there is some tim anderson has eight as a very good review of this and mel magazine seeing where you kind of kind of lumped into the category of of zombie franchises which i think it's just a very evocative phrase just to be you know so much of the of hollywood filmmaking now it's just based around not on stars were well past lecture will smith could open any movie phase of big budget filmmaking right now it's it's they're based on brands and and like it'd be brand is just too powerful to not keep putting out movies in some ways and i think you know even in the hollywood reporter put article notches on trouble this had that there's like in this probably won't even kill men in black is probably just put it on hold for a while they don't come back and some other form i think zombie as a really good metaphor for the circuit here's where i don't i'm looking forward to a new men in black movie comes out and talks and another thing there's really no reason for this to be ashford gettable is it is other than the process itself is kind of broken and you only be will to make amen and black movie by a certain date is a lot stronger stronger than to try craft really good men in black movie that'll that'll make the franchise meaningful in some way again yeah you mentioned in your intro that this was the latest and probably last film in the men in black franchise and i don't know that that's true globe that that that hollywood reporter article ended with the end executive saying yeah there's there's gonna be another one a series the streaming or as another movie some format you're gonna get more of this thing you want in the stories raise their hand naturalized implant plus plus will be a little global locations were were were hollywood films open right now hong claiming to be a nice one in hong kong haven't yeah to do they have offices in hong kong i i mean do i need to see maybe the fight a total of chinese right you you opened up a new markets the morning or the bottom line well clearly the next one is gonna be men in black interstellar gonna be the one where they have to chase in alien to its home planet and the deal with how weird aliens are in their own world as opposed to when they try to fit in with us or they have their own men in black thing where humans orleans scott you know they're writing the screenplay holly wack job have a phone number it's at the end of every at every episode we can't pass up a machine at one point there is talk of doing the men in black a tornado wise jumping three over like me just say this before congress that does sound amazing were terrible you know i don't know i mean i could i could deal with it being both i could alien nearby school probably right like like men in black infiltrating alien or infiltrating high school that has aliens isn't it back trying to infiltrate an alien high school training infiltrate high school well dressed is aliens there's so many possibilities well what a well run operations will be mostly i i would watch that movie for the inevitable shirtless list pose off between channing tatum in chris hemsworth absolutely i would watch any movie for that jonah hill and tessa thompson standing in the background like doing color commentary were gonna write that scripts to scott right at this point i feel like we've officially run things to say about that black international they went right back talk about in a bucket you know but in in relation to the original many skews me what happened here we had the best party konya i showed up and drop like a whole new album look just get my queen who never serve another i must end my own life in the most painful way possible think she would lynching ten you know you'd know what a queen would or wouldn't want are you a queen well i mean they sent on women are yes but no no i'm not going you know what she those agents that a title is a maybe the best way to honor the dead is gone living yes i pledged loyalty atonal do you age it i'm not interested in a subject to like it's done it's like the loyalty i wish you'd said no no no before and if you should die before i i promise to end my own life spans possible yeah but don't like you know type of connection where we bring these two films together and talk about all things have in common genevieve you wouldn't talk about do he says as you all about the duties in in this and these films it's not just any do cosmic do he's now i mean like broadly i kinda wanna talk about you know the weaponry in technology in the stone but specifically i was struck by the sort of similarity between the the galaxy honor ryan's collar andy you know sort of cosmic do hickey that a fungus gives to tessa thompson character that turns out to contain star that is also a weapon and similarly the galaxy in the first men in black was positive is like it could be a weapon you know it could be used as a weapon then if it got into the wrong hands but what struck me in different about the way it was done in the first film is we had that weird ending shot where like zooms way out in the galaxy is just a one marble in a bag and marvels the aliens are playing west end so they kind of like briefly an oddly engages with this idea that like there are civilizations in in these little galaxies that are just kind of disposable and could be weapons or other civilizations stations you know an in men in black international like no it's again it's a big old gun you know that struck me is a direct connection but just kind of more broadly i i wanna talk about the you know the tech and they still who's the touching men in black international mean that weapon is so crazily powerful i mean they test it opens up a grand canyon practically so it's pretty huge i i'm surprised that the film seems to be obsessed again i compared it to james bond on wip gadgetry with cool cars and subways and in these super powerful weapons i think more of that would stand how i guess it does i mean i'm much more one thing about the first minute black i think you think about that pawn shop stop in the way that set up in the way the weapons reveal themselves in that scene is just so much cooler you know even though you know they don't necessarily know what each individual weapon does it just kinda cool to see hey there's a whole arsenal of these things that you need in order to do job conventional guns bruce dern work i like the noisy cricket oh that's what i was gonna bring up to yeah there's also just the the gag of will smith and the noisy cricket you know he tommy lee jones has a gigantic gun a will smith has he teeny little gun that does a lot more than you expected to like both of them sort of have a kind of a like a signature feel in a whole bunch of gags built around those weapons and then at the end of the movie will smith gets a big size gun and makes a big size deal out of it in metabolic international it's kind of a joke there just constantly they're surrounded by weapons like hauser thompson just are driving around this car that's made entirely out of weapons like it so much made out of weapons but i don't even understand how it functions as a car because every single piece of it is also a gun it's alexis that's how it functions back in here you doing the voice over no it's alexis that's how it functions it made of web yeah no wonder they just like a hug a jog it was like an old ford or something in the in the first movie you know they're they're lying about it's like an old rocks bucket but it has the red button yeah and then the red button comes back there there's definitely a sense that the the people who wrote men in black international national watched and rewatch and rewatch men in black for so many of their like specific gags and go twos and the red button is one of them it's like don't press the red button okay it's time to press the red button and then they have to keep coming back to the red button and how excited pony is depressed the red button in the new movie somehow v again they affect us just laughs also i kept wondering how do you keep yourself secret when you literally turn your car into a jet on a street like whenever you want i just assume it has like bill clinton earl liser along on the hubcaps something the speed you know exhaust afternoon surfers yeah apparently speaking of call back to the first film i forget where exactly where i read this but i guess tessa thompson what's pretty adamant that she would not say i make this look good you know but that was definitely something that people want it the happen you i think that's fine is a good standard that's a good stand the take you don't want to just be you know completely remember the first one yeah if you don't wanna be thought of as lady will smith like maybe don't take his biggest catchphrases and try that just redo it yeah i know that everybody's gonna compare yeah i'll be back though that was waiting for her to say that was leading further say you know i made good it's true well she hasn't said but i kind of brings me to my connection we're gonna talk about actors and that's that's movie stars because you know and as i said in the first segment particularly with regard to will smith i mean that is eight movie star a you know i mean he's a fine actor at cetera but he is primarily this incredibly charismatic figure who takes us through the world of the movie and it's with so much so much ease i mean there's such a presence to him and and and i feel like this movie the the new movie been a block international is indicative of a much a larger isis that were were having now in hollywood movies where i think concepts are much larger than the human to bring those concepts to life so you may have a collection of very attractive and talented versatile actors actors of which thompson hemsworth are but you don't have stars in my opinion i don't think in in and i think that the absence of star power is part of what makes men in black national all the more incoherent because you just don't have that released wrong focus you don't have that transcended presence it's really gonna kind of bring the whole movie together i mean the movie is got so many problems with that is definitely a big one for me yeah there's a to ashes i liken and i look forward to seeing in movies but you're right there's there's an absence of you know star someone that everything orbits around in east don't get that here in any non for roles have been a lot of chris hemsworth just based on screen what is he's funny in go go go faster but it but it was so many of his roles is leading manner just like wildly flat just like what like what happened to this guy who could be so charismatic and funny as stored as is in ghostbusters another other performances and then in the movie like this just give you nothing gonna get you in trouble with half of film twitter right now you're ready what a blackout i can't comment on what else i will indeed and rage other one half of film put it all together i really enjoyed him in bad times of yellow brielle now which i believe is one of my next picture show picks possibly after somebody else already picked it like yeah he he brings a tremendous that role and a sexuality that's a weird in dreamy and reminds me a little of a some of the stuff that goes in the wicker man like it's he's he's pretty distinctive in that movie industry that when i saw that too yeah oh i highly advise at for a wide variety of reasons but it's a distinctive role and he's really not the star of that movie like it's it's an ensemble and he's a minor side part of it and i think whenever you get something like that you can you could have kiana reeves and the gift like playing a character that's completely against his type and playing it's so much better than he plays his actual type you know you could have a a tom cruise in tropic thunder are doing something weird and fun and i think movie stars to degree that we have movie stars there austin at their most fun when they're doing the thing is the thing that made the movie stars after do over and over again they're casually that's true but yeah just a ton of is a difference to me between a movie star in the actor is a meaningful distinction then you you could be both i guess but then a bucket national lax movie stars it might be i mean is that fundamentally is it v actors or is it just the structure of the rules there and is it just at the film is much more interested in it do hickey is and it's cetera he says that it would that fairly doesn't help i mean you know not having that strong fish out of water element not having a strong mismatch buddy comedy elements that were present in the first movie that's very harmful to the film is well because you're talking about a chemistry thing here in a comic tension that doesn't regrouped i'll tell you one of my favorite sequences scenes i guess just scenes and men in black is when km jay talking about like whether jazz actually gonna join the men in black and tommy lee jones is just like i'll you know i'll give you data think it over and he walks away and were just left with will smith sitting on a bench as as the day goes on in the sun goes down and he's just thinking it through and that film is so lean but we know nothing about his life we know nothing about his family we we have no idea what he's giving up but you feel the weight of his decision because of the way the film treats that scene because of that montage of him just sitting in one place and thinking it over and i don't feel like there's anything in in men in black international or maybe as they call it they let's spend that kind of time with the character's as though their individual decisions were important as though you're supposed to care about how they feel or you're you're supposed to care about the decisions they're making there's no sense of personal difficulty in maybe that has an impact on that level and it's such a strange moment of impact again because we have no idea what he's giving up we don't know what's going through his it's mind we just know he's trying to make a decision but again there's something soulful that will smith does which i like much better in films where he gives you a diversity of emotions rather the films where he's trying to be sold over two hours straight so i but yeah that that sequence i think that's a we care about what the movie star thanks kind of sequence that you don't get in the new one i guess just talking about the humor in in these films and and so much of the success of the first one in black confirm a screenplay the just doesn't let up in his trips alive has like these running gags i love tommy lee jones needling will smith throughout you know fearing peanuts characters memory getting a race is is is a fun running gotta lose its tightly put together a chemistry goes a long way and it's just so find this watch smith and jones interact with one another and so many black international gigi none of that in in and i think it is a victim of while apparently also the original minute black was also heavily rewritten but you kind of it kind of feels like a movie that's being rewritten written day by day there's not a lot pushing along there's not a lot of sense of who these characters are even as individuals much less who they are as a team i i didn't laugh on johnny at a couple of funny lines as party and that was kind of information you know one of the things like kinda hit when i was reading my review of men in black international is it is just achingly sincere in the character so sincere about what they do and what they care about and one of the things that's fun about men in black is what comes across isn't sincerity or dedication it's exasperate nation like tommy lee jones is exasperated with this job in these aliens they keep making it harder will smith is exasperated with the way everybody in the group keeps her writing him a rip torn is exasperated with this this rookie who keeps making mistakes and it's just annoying vincent enough rio's exasperated with the entire human race and just on and on and on all the way down a you know tony have been aspirated with a factor keeps getting his head blows up giving crossing exasperated because he's david cross everybody is just like so frustrated annoyed by the state of the world in this film and it gives it a kind of peevish quality a really hilarious end you contrast that with the tone of the new movie which is just i would like to help fight aliens you should help play daily like it just there's just self seriousness to it it just is kind cami yeah kinda wanna bring something up the release a little bit to the last topic a movie stars but also to this which is a in that article that you mentioned in the last episode by rachel handler vulture talking incident operate found buried sonnenfeld a seinfeld like briefly mentioned like way back in the early stages of men in black it like someone wanted to start chris o'donnell an clint eastwood an i think like we when we saw that we all kind of laughed at the chris o'donnell of it but a in i laughed at the clint eastwood of it but it seems like maybe a someone at this table thought otherwise but i i just can't imagine clint eastwood having any of the humor the tommy lee jones has in this performance and it's such like he definitely has like the grizzle you know old heimer thing down but there's such sort of sardonic humorous quality to tommy lee jones in general end especially in this movie that i can't imagine going eastwood delivering like maybe my favorite moment in men in black is it's so tiny it's after they hit the red button on the upside down in the tunnel an elvis is playing time and they just kinda singing along to it and there's this one moment where he gets like this little head bible you know like he's like ruben with the music and the tears hanging down 'cause he's upside down into the little bottle and it's so perfect it makes me laugh every time and i'm like dude i just like the whole time clint eastwood it's been a long time i think since clint eastwood has let himself be funny and maybe that's the dignity of age and maybe it's you know his a conservative just like really wanting to be serious about the world in the state of it you know 'cause he's he's making these films that he sees is very important about a things going on in the world but you look back to his early career in the stuff like a any which way you can in every which way but loose like he was funny in those movies in a pretty i like hip shot effortless way that might be a little him source he like he did that must have comedy chops yeah but that was way before ninety nineteen ninety seven like i think like what's he doing anything even remotely comedic in ninety seven no but neither was it's been such an offer which we previously established i mean it's i think if you if you have those instincts if you have those chops like reef finding them is more possible than creating if you've never had them at all i i tell you wanna see exasperated claire mccaskill you know for us i still i think it'd be i'd be curious to see if you'd be good i mean he is and tony jones there are different actors but i can't see clint eastwood being in that movie me funny 'cause he can be funny 'cause he has that just kind of deadpan quality and he also has a way of his disrespectfully young makes could make for some funny moments even movies that are a little more serious they're different actors but you know what they share their bill space cowboys yeah yeah that's a very funny so there's like a there's a good old older clint eastwood performance is funny but chris o'donnell but it just murders is over we would not be able to stop the men in black is o'donnell has absolutely zero starpower at the film would've just completely died if he was a star it's just drop harbor for a while they were they really tried they tried i think i think probably try to make fetch happen he's on his ass and entire show which seems does in the zone you know so funny all these actors like we're like where are they now and it's like oh they're just absolute fortune shows of you don't just you know i part of the v appeal of of will smith and this movie being funny is i i feel like this is one of the early films from me where i i felt like i saw code switching inaction in starting to understand what that was that line when he first lands on the double decker bus and he's like oh it'd be raining black men died in new york city a which was apparently an improv line and he goes in and out of that kind of language throughout the film depending on what kind of impression he's trying to make it's not like he's code switching back and forth between like being around his family or like being around like in his neighborhood people he's comfortable if versus being around a bunch of like uptight tight uptown white folks he's really just kind of doing it in his own head it's like whatever he feels is the most comfortable motive self expression for the moment a he any changes back and forth and how he does language but he often falls into that like more i like ghetto form of expression when he's saying stuff that he knows is hilarious he he kind of reaches for that mode when he's being funny and it did like it really works and you know while were kind of talking about you like i could i sound more white as i try to figure out like how i could say this without being maximally offensive like the lose urban conversation is kind of the conversation goes on throughout the entire movie like the topic i'm gonna bring in was just the setting of these two films and how one of and takes place in a very funky new york like a new york full of pawn shops in new york where an alien ambassador in his bodyguard a hanging out at a deli where nobody batson i at them talking this weird foreign language pretty loudly up because of the kind of place where probably everybody is talking a different language you have the settings very janki in crowded and full of cabs which gives us a great visual joke of will smith chasing a cab and walking out into you know flotilla of new york city cabs and then in men in black international you have a bunch of digital spaces and generic spaces like you keep coming back to the eiffel tower but harrison significant as a part of paris is just significant as a a big shiny thing stand on while you're fighting aliens voting through a wormhole it's like a wormhole the hive open i yeah but what i'm saying is it's not a part of a city it's not a part of our yang it's not a part of a culture there's no sense of location in men in black international even though we keep moving from location to location into the surrounding culture they get there and it's like well here's the set the represents the city i mean you know that's what movies do but there is like no sense of there is actually international story in anyway yeah i mean it would have been like the first then by having having a big scene at the empire state building it's like man you know that's not really all that exciting like in what yeah whereas whereas you know the first minute black does seek out these interesting flavor fall new york space is first of this land in april tower ministers generic as the cats and it really does it really does kind of it is really interesting contrast between those those two movies especially again if the emphasis is supposed to be on men in black international why don't you give us something new about the places that it's going some find her own version of a funky paris to set set something or or funky merit cash i think is in this movie to in don't just give us everything we've seen before yeah and you know mira cash is a market and one garage where there's a guy with an alien beard some work in paris fearful towers like that's all there is to it i just i feel like one of the things that makes men in black charming is again going back to that idea of immigration you have a place that's very densely packed with people they're very widely diverse a in a sense of kind of everybody maybe a little hostile to each other everybody may be very different but everybody also like doing their own thing chasing their hustle fee international world of mad like international scene is just much less crowded and much less specific and flavorful an interesting well if you want flavorful interesting the original men in black available and online yeah the usual double digit rental sites a minute black international is currently in theaters will be right back with your next picture show i finally attend the catch each other up on films are familiar items we've seen an entrance into our last podcast we call it your next picture show and hopes it'll put some interesting choices on your radar tasha what in the world has been good for you anyway you know i was gonna do something else but i threatened to do laughs at auction on i'm gonna have to do less reduction last election is one of my favorite all time movies that's a nineteen ninety four john doe new are neo new are that i think is the film what they should teach in school when people ask what neo and why is as i john ra it's visually a very very indebted classic wars it's emotionally intended the classic but way more daring in a modern sort of way a little if you're in you know stars as a woman who in the very beginning scenes is scheming to leave her husband play by bill pullman end steal all of his money and start a new life elsewhere a she does and then there are complications and it's got it's so tightly written it so well acted and it's such a small in specific movie you realize really heavily on fear and he knows ability to and in her own sort of way could switch between character's her ability to play whatever a scene requires a take on these persona is like shia especially plays sociopathic con woman kind of person who can walk walk into a situation eyeball it decide what it needs a in order to manipulate the people around her into doing what she wants and then she does it end it's it's just like whip crack fast these degree to which she changed tactics in changes persona is to deal with whatever whatever situation she's facing as eighty more it's just it's one of my favorites because it's so tight end it's so mean in so many ways as aid it's just like a starring vehicle for a woman it was just one of the early films that i was like why isn't there more like this out there so the last election is pretty widely available and subscription services it's also if you haven't already be an amazon prime member it's it's a free on that so as a good now and i wanna just like go check it out again many times but i love it i mean it's pure tino is just you know the thing is like she's playing fm fe talbot were used to pay pal being a secondary secondary character of being the person who's gonna kind of like screw over are are here our attempt to screw him over for her to actually be out front creates a much different dynamic right in the way she's able to use her sexuality unused what men expect expect from her in one from her and just manipulate them and just in the destroy them in in what she wants so funny in sharp and 'em gotta know very good john dollars a very good stylistically he'd he'd done red rock west year before that was kind of his big breakthrough but i think the last election is him at his absolute peak i thought it was a very glad you brought it up as a wonderful movie yeah created red rock west is tremendous and he's done some strong sense like only really really loves working in this genre that last election it just doesn't get any better than that i recommend nor of sorts is not a good movie guys i talked about a lot of stuff but it's it's just kind of entertaining were not really in the so bad it's good business very in here but i'm gonna recommend one anyway this is a film called serenity that came out in january if you didn't notice because the company behind it that kind of didn't advertise it it is written and directed by steven now who's a very talented writer hatred in such films as a dirty pretty things eastern promises he wrote and directed lock that movie where tom hardy drives running a car which is good he wrote a ally in a movie i liked robertson meccas some at this is an ambitious film that doesn't it it just doesn't work on any level to hilarious effect and i can't even tell you everything about it without spoiling it which i refuse to do but there's been this way it starts out as a new or a sort of a sun drenched nor a set in the tropics a stray matthew mcconaughey as a as a tortured fishermen on a beach bum no i think he's more of a beach from in the film film where he's the beach from i can't remember the name andre cat yeah talking get there you go a but but anyway a bigger deal could tell you that much download the cast is an hathaway diane lane sherman who msu and jason clark and what a cast there's a lot of fishing there's a lot of other stuff in it i don't know i i don't wanna say too much more but if you are in the in the market for so bad it's good movie a an or wanna see matthew mcconaughey but a lot this is a film preview serenity rent now from from me literally no reason you know you're that's a every you know everybody's beautiful someone that's dancer generally how about you for those of you who don't know i have been moving to a new state for the several weeks which hasn't left a whole lot of time or movie watching so i wanna recommend something that i've saw while ago but i don't think we've ever talked about on this podcast and it's inspired by the presence of twins in men in black international i want to recommend another film in which they briefly appeared in that is home coming up dome by fiance this concert film version of her instantly legendary twenty eighteen coach all her performances drop on netflix a couple of months back so i think it's pretty likely that anyone who is already intrigued by this movie has seen it but i'm gonna use opportunity to eight hopefully discuss it with all of you be urge anyone who may think it isn't for them or who eroneous lee believes but they're not beyond say fan to check it out i think homecoming easily stands among some of the best concert films ever made an admittedly a big part of that is attributable to the concept fiance imagine for these two performances which are in extended masha historically black colleges and universities and dry extensively on touch points hp you culture like marching band and drumline black fraternities and sororities an step a obviously beyond say herself is unquestionably the stark here and she presides over the stage like the queen she is a but beyond say backed by a full marching band and step dancers in baton twirler is some next level spectacle that everyone deserves to experience but all those already apparent from the coach of the footage leaked in the days after the performance last summer so the question is what homecoming offers is different from that straight ahead concert footage into that i say so so much there is some behind the scenes footage that's mildly interesting but really too heavily image control to be a specially eliminating but that same expert grasp of image control the beyond say has which divine so much of her career comes through his specially totally innocent metaverse being editing of this film which merges the to suffer performances into one long concert but interestingly doesn't try to cover up the scene a and you could tell because the color schemes are different for each night at the performance the first night it's yellow in a second what's pink a in the film switch back and forth between footage of the two in a way that becomes i think really hypnotic and impressive in underscores the amount of positioning control interest performance the pulsing ever under every moment of this thing so even if you're lukewarm on beyond say's music there's so much happening here in terms of visual spectacle in filmmaking pilots that i think it's definitely worth of first watch if you missed it or it second or third or fourth if you have seen it aside sitting there on netflix just waiting for you i really have been wanting to see it i've seen it in bits and pieces but one thing that you just brought up but i think his point is that is that when we think about the greatest concert films of all time films like stop making sense or the last waltz a we think of them as the thinking of them as a bunch kasese from jonathan demme he fell by artists conceit matters so much in how good a concert film could be a v you know something he senses so much shake collaboration between david byrne and jonathan demme in in the last waltz his soul is such an extraordinary event of which of course says he was tremendously prepared the film but did not produce some of those something the the robbie robertson the band kind of in their people sort of assembled all it matters and so so so creates kind of an interesting dynamic between the performers in the filmmakers yeah i mean fiance is credited as the like director writer producer of it i think she had a co director at burke but i mean it is entirely her vision you know not just the performance but as i said the way it is presented on film like she's matori asli adopt controlling her image and i think this film is a very good example of that in a positive sense they had have none of you seen it serious no i won't see it so so it's a sitting on netflix thing that's me later yeah i know i mean remember watching now i'm personally offended you have to watch now all right can i just watched lemonade is done a lot shorter i mean it's entirely different experience and lemonade i mean it but it kind of has the same sort of control and i'm talking about this lemonade you know like there is such a strong concept behind it from the very first strain and it's so thought out and nothing happens accidentally in lemonade and nothing happens accidentally in homecoming oh i see eliminated another problem is that you know when you're a netflix you could just watch the brass brass brothers again recently and i don't know i'm a little horrified i pulled up netflix and search tom coming to sort of reminds me a to watch it later and like everything else it's recommending to me like everything it thinks that i wanna watch because i wanna watch homecoming it's like being boji movie and peter rabid woody woodpecker hotel for dog why do i have enough underpants it's like it very clearly thinks if you wanna watch him coming you are a small child to like dumb animated hot oh i'm only one of those things and i like a company that's on america amazon prime is well julia roberts yeah we an spiderman homecoming there's a lot of homes in chase antoni yes credible basically just homecoming or family scott what about you okay so i i recently i've been doing a lot of bingewatching lately i binged ton of each rio series for this hp oh ranked elicited from vulture no murray i binged a ton of scorsese documentaries first grizzly documentary positive for the ringer nfl the washington post i just binged all seven child's play movies it'll be eight when i see the see the new one tomorrow but but i wanna talk about that experience a little bit because i think of the of what's interesting about the child's play movies is that one there's a single driving force find all the and that's that's the creator dominancy any which is unique in two they change with v era with each air the first three child spy movies are part of the slasher era in in kind of reflect select reflect those conventions and then the next one's me the nineties bride of chucky in cedar chucky are films that are a very much and he posts scream you met a comedy you know mode very different films and then they two films after that which were straight video they have their own quality to almost like a haunted house quality as well and kind of go back a little bit more to to what these first three were doing but of the of the seven i released strongly recommend the people check out those two in the middle right of chucky in cedar chucky which are really funny in they in strange andy a stylish and also i think maybe be the only first like true lgbt or i mean this is these are films that that are about a they bring in jennifer tilly these two films this is tiffany who is he a chucky cheese chucky win chucky was charles we re had a girlfriend a in the tiffany is gender gender chilly and a tilly is cast because of her her role in bound so she's very much in that kind of mode so it's got that going for but then it just has all of these interesting subversive elements i mean there's a there's a point i think in the seat of chucky were were john waters shows up there's they gender non conforming doll who's like newsy seed of chucky in seat of chucky a who's who they who is assigned is glenn and becomes glenda later in the movie in in a reference to the famous movie ends up these maybe they're just they're very quirky they have they they found this true colt appreciation an m i dunno it just i was surprised in kind of enchanted by this whole which is really a reflection of very very strong clear and yet versa tile vision 'em the by its creator dominancy who unfortunately was completely cut out of the new film entirely like no they they they would not let him have any input on it so you have this very strange situation where he is still making chucky entertainment and he the the cult of chucky which is his last movie is made in two thousand seventeen in the end he's working on ebay chucky tv show for our size fi but this movie which is kind of a reboot has nothing to do with him which is kind of sad to me because he i think he's shown an ability throughout the years to kind of adjust this character in this idea of for a range of different you know a cultural scenario so child's life take take the journey they're all you know those films or two to four ninety minutes most summer or right at ninety minutes it's got a few questions okay go one is how it's called the chucky since it's only one of these available on netflix oh it's gotta be it's you know it's i i would i would i think it's doesn't really as a standalone i wouldn't necessarily recommend it because it kind of ties in pretty closely the curse of chucky which is the one that comes before and introduces a m a c important new character played by fiona a door who is brad doris a daughter and brad door is the voice of chucky so this is very much a family affair there's a lot of actors of bread dorf jeffer chillier fiona dorf who is in the producer they've all they've stayed with the movie offer these movies with for for for a long time and it's almost got kind of a kind of a family feel to it second question is how were these movies on your the love at violence like inane gory they stylish what did they do i mean they're they're they're gory in stylish a male take any more so than these films of their era i mean i think i i would say they're less less gross then a lot of slasher movies but they but they have they have their share of blood and chuck he's very resourceful chucky somebody just like it's a doll eating this kick them right kick armor formal card i mean is it the but but you can't but but he's also he's he's surprisingly strong and he's he's clever and he's spry and he's he's very elusive and you can't you can't kill him i mean here's a guy who like put his soul into adult you know i mean this is not gonna be easy in easy guidances kill you can't do it yet again right in the right in the heart and even when you do that i mean little little chucky parts will still kind of come after you so a don't underestimate him he's he's resilient he's been around for thirty years he's been thirty years worth of chucky movie so a child's play seem all night would be totally great easier time but it really if you if you really just have to see a couple i but i should maybe recommend seeing the first child's play which is which is solid and then skipping the next to which i to me the weakest of the of the of all the and then going right to the brightest chucky in in cedar chucky which do you have any strong a following among lgbt fan horror fans for reason and i think it's i do a lot of fun to be in that position the next picture show are desperate episodes will come out on july ninth in july sixteenth scott what's coming up next martin scorsese is new netflix documentary tree rolling thunder review takes advantage of bob dylan's trickster image by winning fact and fiction in its treatment of dylan's famous mid seventies concert tour through smaller venues across america in scorsese film electrifying footage of doing it infringe on stage is given phony significance by stories and talking hit testimonials are entirely on the level next picture show listener named enrico wrote in suggesting that we pair rolling thunder review with silver gold mine todd haynes tribute to the glam rock movement as and rico notes both films are about artist is myth makers and storytellers both films about trying to balance artistic expression with commercial interest in both films feature thrilling performance footage suffer next pairing were gonna take up rico suggestion dive into the elusive trues of scorsese ian hanes factbased fiction in the meantime we'd love to hear your feedback on this week discussion of all the men in black anything else you'd like to talk about we wanna good you're thoughts it's on future episodes of the show you leave a short voicemail at seven seven three two three four nine seven three zero or email us at comments at next picture show dot net we may push response on states but for discussion are we doing a future episode of the show finally closing out this week's episode where can we find everyone these days got a you could find me on twitter at scott underscore tobias you could find my worth in new york times washington post which is where my wrote about child's 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Men In Black: International (2019) | F. Gary Gray

The Qwipster Film Review Podcast

08:40 min | 1 year ago

Men In Black: International (2019) | F. Gary Gray

"I welcome to equip, Stor film, review podcast. My name is Vince, Leo. I'm the author of the film review website, quit stood. I that I invite you to check out over four thousand my written reviews and read anytime quips, your dot net is where to go Q W I as T, E, R dot net. While you're there doing courage you to check out my other podcast called around the world in eighties movies. Just look for that link my website, quips dot net. Today. I'm going to be looking at the latest in the men in black franchise. It is called men in black international. It's PG thirteen rated film does have science fiction action, some language and suggestive material the Runtime hour and fifty four minutes, the main stars are Tessa Thompson, and Chris Hemsworth with Liam Niessen, Rafe, Spall, Emma Thompson on then Johnny and Rebecca Ferguson filling out some of the supporting cast f Gary gray is the director, with the screenplay credited to Matt Holloway, and art marcum now, although the original men in black trilogy had, basically run out of ideas, and not in its third film, but really halfway through its first Hollywood's never want to leave a once popular franchise dormant for long studios hope that time has been kind enough to produce. A wave of nostalgia among movie goers enough to give a continuation a shot again at the theater that desire to draw on this Daljit would have seen the other nostalgic property twenty one jump street series. Merge with the men in black series for a combined film, but that deal fell through due to not being able to get the two sides to agree on a clear and creative direction. I mean twenty one jump street series is an R rated series with a lot of raunchy humor. How do you merge that with the audience that loves to men in black series, the project would end up preceding forward, though after it fell through merely as another men in black entry now for this follow up. We get to new characters to follow with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, choosing not to return. They working for the super secret government organization to help protect earth from inter dimensional threats and to keep knowledge of alien life forms away from human knowledge, because, you know, we would just freak out if we knew that there were aliens among us, these characters are Tessa Thomson's, newly onboard. Agent m we meet 'em, also known as Molly. I as a civilian girl with big dreams of exploring the secrets of the universe after she ends up encountering. Aol. When she was a kid. Chris Hemsworth roguish veteran named agent h is also in this film, kind of a hotshot in the department for reasons that are really not merited as we come to learn the two men in black here. Really in quotes, men in black. There are a couple of jokes about the deeded sexism of the moniker, especially when you have women, as agents, they get their assignment from their boss, high tea played by Liam these to look after an alien of some renown, and influenced that Assad after by sinister forces, for reasons that we only come to learn more about through the course of the film in the ensuing attempt at an assassination is given a mysterious crystal object, when she knows must be important enough to make your target. But something that serves no use to her until she can unlock it secret purpose so much more to the story than that. But for those who haven't seen in outlet you discover those things on your own now it would be incorrect to call men in black international reboot of the. As it does acknowledge the characters from the original trilogy briefly in the representation of their heroism depicted in painting hanging on one of the walls at headquarters. This is the first of the series to not have Barry Sonnenfeld as the director that makes for f Gary gray who ended up in this past. He took over a series for Sonnenfeld once before Sonnenfeld directed Get Shorty, and Afghan gray directed its follow up, be cool. A pretty limp attempt there so doesn't necessarily bode well f Gary gray doesn't really bring in his own flair here so much try to emulate. The look in the vibe of Sonnenfeld goofy colorful vision from the first three films the screenplay from the team of Matt Halloween art marcum. They have worked together in the past. They are mostly known for bringing forward. Big comic book properties. Iron man was there. I really big script, they followed it up with punisher war, zone and transformers the last night, those last two titles. Don't exactly sizzle with ripe, comedic material or fascinating, new twists on the formula premise. And neither does this movie. You have a modicum of mystery elements in this film that will likely will no one, but someone who's probably never seen a film before and much made of the international aspect of the title here. It opens up the action varied scenic locales around the world London. Paris, Morocco etcetera. This aims to change scenery, pretty often for the series, the interplay between the two leads is fine. It's not exactly the stuff of natural chemistry I would say, and that's despite seeing these to work together before to some degree to sub success really in Thompson's debut to the MC you in Thor ragnarok. Of course starring Chris Hemsworth. Nevertheless, I do think that these two actors are likable enough to enjoy in their roles. Even if they fall short of scoring big laughs together because they seem to be working on different levels much of the time they get their laps singularly, or at least in reaction to each other, instead of actually generating a lot of that chemistry because they are together things improve substantially when they get a third. Wheel to their adventures in the miniature. CG character. Cartoonish Lee representing a pond from chessboard. He's dubbed Ponti by agent, m he's voiced here by Camille nanjiani, and he gets them. Good lapse here, I suppose it's a double edged sword. He carries a double edged sword. And with the characters may be some people might find him in irritant. I actually found him more refreshing because I like Camille, Johnny Rebecca Ferguson. Looks like she's having fun here. Also in a small role playing as Amy multi armed character name Rizza. She's an alien that is so sexy that few species in the universe can seem to resist her now given the fact that this is a film series that literally could do anything could go anywhere in the universe. I mean, the sky is the limit spaces the limit in order to find new and interesting stories to tell I guess, it's kind of a disappointment to see it go through most of the same motions that we already went through the first time around with his franchise, even if you divorce it from the original trilogy and just taken on its own terms, still nothing great. There's a mystery here with. Out many genuine surprises. There's comedy here without many genuine laughs and that leaves us only to be entertained by its zany vibe in some constantly shifting set of alien characters to inhabit in this variety of picturesque locations, as a scape ISM, I guess you could probably do worse, but it's very little that you haven't seen before if you've seen the original trilogy of films and at nearly two hours in length. That's the longest men in black film today. It does have a pretty high share of prolonged walls to way down it could have definitely used a little bit of trimming, given that not many scenes are actually pushing forward, any kind of narrative, if you're a longtime fan of the series, I guess, seeing the dormant franchise revive. It's only been seven years since the last one, though, but that may be enough to see it you into being content with what international has to offer. You're just hoping that it successful enough to continue to seem in by films. If you've never really cared much for these movies, though, this entry is certainly not going to turn your around on them. And. Doesn't exactly break out into new territory, despite its new glow popping premise. So I'm gonna give men in black international two and a half stars out of four two and half stars on my skill meat. I do think that it had the tools had the talent to be an actual worth while film to recommend to most people. However, it does fall short here because it is definitely very formulaic. And honestly, not a lot that you haven't seen before except for maybe better, special effects, and the story itself, feels very rudimentary and full of not a lot of surprises. Not a lot of laps as I mentioned. So it's kind of weak material here. So two and a half stars is really the best I can give men in black international. Thanks. Everyone listening to that you enjoy this review. If you have your own thoughts on black international doing her to reach out to me, you can find my contact information on my website, which dot net where you can also find links to my Twitter feed and peace book, page, all of these are adequately to get in touch with me till next time. Thanks, everyone listening and please enjoy your time anytime you get to go to the moon.

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