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Best Of Week 153: Dave Gives Blind Mike An Ultimatum

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Best Of Week 153: Dave Gives Blind Mike An Ultimatum

"All Barcelona's sports will be relocating to Manhattan. We want to take it to the world but we're trying to take this site cranking the concord thing Internet what an Barstool takes over the Sirius. Xm Airways what's going to happen real the finer things club the scumbag you queue America the gallon shelter the Dick Tra- I saw here. I believe we're funnier smarter better than everybody else. WHO's stealing are stuck on the Internet by the for the common man four stowaways talk all right good afternoon? It is Friday January third two thousand and twenty. It's a big show first time all year we got the whole squad the whole barstool radio crew. It's Tommy myself and Dave Dave. Welcome back thank you nice to see. You haven't seen him forever. been a long time. been a long time Eh First Day back in the office correct. How's everything going good busy always busy First Aid Back Gaz. Walk Right in and try to talk to me like maybe maybe five seconds after I got here I just like way my very not. Now you get back in. There's just a lot to settle walk on so but you know I did a good solid vacation. The weather warm but rainy but I was ready to get back. Get back in the GROOVE. Ten look sharp. Thank you yes. I already complain that no one had mentioned when this happened last year. I have a great Tan. The way mentioned it really good time. Yeah solid how. The weather wasn't great. Weather was not great and Miami to be honest of his but I was working my dick off to get it like like even if I thought there was a chance of Sun would appear for like five minutes. I'd be out there but no it was fun. Good trip as their longtime. How does it stack up to when we hung out last year at Miami? Well there was no fucking you can embarrassing me eleven in Solo cups so that was good. Maybe that makes you look better when somebody does No definitely not as fun like I said. I think it's the last time Miami I it weirdly. 'cause I wouldn't say necessarily deport I city like very clubby and whatnot. And what a lot of celebs in obviously for new years. and was there last time. But I have good connections so I can do a lot of surreal things that you know. It's like Oh shit can't believe that's what's happening. Sat next to Ryan Phillippe Bay as like the only one who knew cruel intentions. The only one who knew then I'll people knew like I knew Your Ryan Phillippe Eh new Barcelo to you like. Oh you're like even he actually before me. You're the Barcelo Guy Right. I'm like your the cool intentions. And I forgot at the time. Married to Reese Witherspoon kids short- shorter than I am met the Jonas brothers. They obviously knew parcel was because the chicks in the office but they came up by. Hey Davis love love you guys so weird you just you know weird people. Dave Grubman came in clutch again. Yeah he's he's very helpful. Eleven guys helpful so it was fun it was good time. Good time but ready ready to Ready to get back in the swing of things here your parents. Your parents have a nice visit again. Dad Perform this time. Good Yeah it it was basically. He can't hear nothing hearing aid. But Oh it was good to be back highlights. I'm trying to think of I'd to recap there. Wasn't you know I am not gambling. So I watched watched like two football games three two and a half because the Lsu game was route you really don't have to pay attention. Obviously Ida very large bet fifty grand a win three fifty future Ohio state fucking I on man there there are a thousand times better. Glenn they really are like I think they played a hundred times. They when ninety five I think they could beat you not sure cleansing Kenwood shock me but all the clan all the Ohio state fans moaning and bitching and shut up like shut up. I know it's happened a while ago. But the targeting was the right call the roughing the passer. That's I mean roughing the kicker that's your fault. Yeah you can argue I thought the interception Asian fumble by still think they were lost anyways even if they did that bottom line is they didn't go for it on fourth in two or four three they punt from clemes inside instead of Being bold as Ryan Day says they gave up a ninety five yard touchdown drive and they threw an interception the end zone to end the game of Nova to blame but themselves that sucked And the Patriots loss was stunning. I was in Miami for that. I mean I I watch every patriots game I was like I I went out. I didn't like I'm like I'm not GonNa stay in and watch the Patriots Seventeen point favorites at home about halftime. I started realizing we had a problem and ended up watching a fucking movie theater like sports. Barnes movie theater. that a stunning. But I'm Ba- that's behind me and I'm very much looking forward to tomorrow with the Patriots and All onboard on what. The challenge lies ahead head for the Patriots. It will be their greatest accomplishment. And that's saying something if they win the superbowl this year and I think they can. I think that's anytime you think like knowing look me I say this is more dire than twenty three or more dire than the seahawks on the goal line. Like if you give me three. Three scenarios were down twenty three at halftime the Seahawks of the wall at our one. And we can't stop the run or this. What's the most difficult I think? One I'd say marshawn Lynch because of a hand off Games over two twenty three and excuse me the most. Yeah most difficult most difficult the least difficult marshawn twenty eight three to this. This is the third hardest in this group. The most likely I said that in a very complicated way but John more complicated than this. That's over that's over like like there was never a minute in the twenty three game where Mike it's over. I never felt that I was dead. I gave up in in Marshawn Lynch Malcolm Butler Play Lake Done. I was slumped on my seat game over because we could not stop the run like we just couldn't like they could they. They were gaining five to seven yards a carry. There's there's no way if they ran the ball we stopped them. None if Falcons at least had a whole half to like shoot themselves in the foot like they just had one players. Yeah I never. I never thought what that game was. Totally how much time was left in the third quarter twenty three like two or three minutes right so it was like a little over a quarter whereas the other one I mean seahawks you need one goal line stand I get if they could go on. You knew it was the one like it that was over but you need like a set like you need. What is the first goal you need? A set of goal line stands. But I feel like that's more likely twenty-three was like I'm telling you it was over the way the play before marshawn ran it was over in my mind. I was sitting in my seat like I was never. I was always real. I was just twenty the marshawn Malcolm Lynch as literally Malcolm Butler. I was slumped. Seahawks fans going crazy being like. It's it's done we lost So this what's in front of us now. Seems like a piece of cake to those two now granted. The team is not playing great. and that's a stunning loss. But fuck. We lost the dolphins late Miami now at Miami versus New England. I mean at New England. That's different but it was unseasonably warm. It wasn't doesn't want to lose like snow cold games. So Hey kit. Is it much harder. was I depressed was like I can't believe that happened. was that the most stunning loss. Maybe maybe fifteen years or twenty years run. I think it was but it didn't let we're in the playoffs like we play tomorrow night. I'll be here day born and we'll be here. Tom Tom Brady will be putting on his black leads. The greatest coach of all time. We'll be putting on his headset. You have to beat us as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong Tommy. We're still the defending super bowl champs Yeah that's confirmed until the clock shows triple zero in the playoffs. We are still the the defending champs. So I'm excited as playoff football any nervousness about tomorrow night. I'm nervous about every game. Now how can you not be but what again. It's all relative. I like my chances here more than before. I don't know that was a dud. They throw in I. I don't get defy everything. They even not call timeouts else gives us a chance to get the field goal back. I don't know maybe it's a wake up call. Who knows? We'll find out livestream that what's going on. Yeah I'll be here livestream tomorrow night I. It's it's football season I I don't. It's now football season for me. It has an added football game that mattered fucking forever. We're saying yesterday. I mean for as negative people are about the Patriots Hatred. They're still like a twelve one team. That's in the playoffs. And I would kill for that as when many end like what five and a half point favorites tomorrow night. Yeah is it going to be tough to go be Casey. Yeah by only Casey is as good as they were last year. It's going to be if if Lope of this way if we get back to the AFC championship and we're at Baltimore. That means we want to games. That means you're going to see a very cocky confidence Dave Portland. That's like all boulders starting to go downhill. Maybe that Miami thing woke us up. Who knows I'm excited to sit defending super bowl champs till we lose so I'm excited part of me? Thinks he's at some point at some point. The Patriots will stop winning Super Bowls. And we'll stop winning every fucking game every big game and so we're talking. It was like me hubs talking earlier. It's like you WanNa jump on and say this is the fucking people say this is the point but it just feel like we say it. Every February in this is the most because of that last loss to Miami is what a seventeen point favorite no-doubt. That's what I'm saying this would be the great Like the greatest run. They've had but I I will never count this team out another thing. If they lose his game dynasty dead. This that who knows what happens Brady Bell check like like people said this already. We lost a wildcard gained the ball tomorrow by like five hundred points. What ten years ago? I play The Guy who beat the price. Yeah he ran for a seventy yard touchdown and was never close so people have said it's over if we don't win this does that means not necessarily I mean just the that's the standard of the Patriots if they don't win the Super Bowl people dynasties dead. They expect US every single year. Now people would be shocked. I mean they're Hugh Johnson Vegas huge odds. There's a lot of chatter. That bell check might be the giants head coach next year. So that could be a factor to ending the Patriots run. But I see why you'd be Woah chatter from WHO somebody. I think steeplechase adhere to rumor channel. I've been holding onto that leave Stephen Shea. Then you're fucking coach or get cattleman the GM say like Denia that quote the other day teams that run the ball to well and had the stats. All wrong. Probably sounds about right. Yep that state cattleman. I'm excited. It's playoff football season. Hey it we go here. We go is what I wait for. This is my team And I'M GONNA ride a die with them. I expect a win tomorrow. I'm going to expect to Kansas City. And when I'm going to expect to go into Baltimore and win and I'm GonNa Expect to win the Super Bowl. It doesn't happen. I won't be shocked clearly. Won't be like Oh my God. That's like the two losses that Miami loss when we lost to the jets at home in the playoffs. Those of us that jets when I did not see coming out was stunning. Guess what guess what people said. They're dynasty dead. Hey when you play this game for fifteen to twenty years you may have a surprising loss along the way it happens. It happens so I'm looking on our sheet. Looks like four fifteen. We Got Blind Mike and Minihan. I think they're on the line already so I guess we should go to break and they were gonna come back with just a preview. We can preview what this is about. And if they're on they can listen over break Like Blind Mike. Mike and I'll buy the mini van. have been going after the lady trendy who is like Woman sports broadcasts are in in Boston. Basically and I guess like they're do you remember the story with the Cadets Army Navy they held up like what is that sign like. Okay like let's put the whole in the finger and you can punch somebody in the shoulder and then people can views out with like racist. It's ridiculous I don't even understand this late Chinese in idiot absolute idiot. She went on some radio. Shows like these guys are racist. Should be expelled. Of course it's all white man totally this lady twenty total idiot. I'm blocked by her. I don't even know for like idiot. She's everything that I hate about everything over the break blind Mike wrote a blog. Recap the story. It is a decent job recapping it. I thought it wasn't a bad blog It's already talked about. I already had re tweeted The story of somebody in a local paper calling her out that Minihan like was talking talking about so I'm on their side on this side story. No doubt about it blind mites terrible writer. This wasn't terrible article. I could blind right. I would have had them write a decade ago I don't think he's ever written a blog. Maybe I'm wrong as far as I know zero blogs to blind mics. Resume here Barstool. We hired him. Uh spotlight occur. Tired him as a producer Bottomley's they wrote the blog K.. Marco reached out. Was it two days ago is like what do you want to do with this. It was it was the blog about the story intact blog degree train. Sinatra's not do it. I don't want blind Mike leading the blind. Mike is not way. Want holding the flag at the front of a cavalry charge attacking people in getting into wards with feminist like defend. His weight is why not that guy for it. If I want to write it fine but but like blind Mike No. I don't think he's his spot to write tap log and I talked with Kirk and I've frankly thought he was fine all right not a big deal. That's literally how it is. Yeah no big deal either way. Hung up coming back from vacation and Minihan show is just re tweeting like Blind Mike basically we we have the sound effect. Play the sound effect. It seems way more sexist take a blog written by someone who did not even mention the fact that she's she's a woman that's never. I've never I've never talked about that girls and skinny jeans asshole. Let's go fuck yourself. Fire me if I don't give a shit up you blind the gross in a fucking balls and fire me if you want. If you don't want me here anymore fucking do it. I don't care forgot headline for the show. They will not be spiked. That might be. It might be the case that your twitter account gets you in trouble sometimes. It's the mildest fucking. I am not making a lot of hot takes onto what. Yeah I know but every time grow some fucking balls you guys haven't gotten soft oft. It's not about things tweet six months ago. Jesus Christ wild everytime portnoy comes on. Though it's about the tweet you sent during the Albright thing this tweet that licking the asshole of burstow sports. Saying how fucking great everything they represent is all I talked about. How good part of my taking Casey radio or I fucking? I've Caraba Smitty on the shoot the show with him. I Hey look at me. I'm blind throw fucking face I can't play fortnight. Isn't that hilarious. I do whatever the fucking Wami Do. And you hate me for some reason. I don't understand it jeeze trigger. Have with you know normal. Don't understand why people think the Dave is a lot of truth that Davimoss thing well the truth it was just total. Cya Mode right completely. Worried about Dave Portas worried about trend. Coups Eric Yeah Yeah Holy Fuck all right. So that's a clip. I only heard in to be honest. The only part I heard was the fire part second bar. Some not worried about her again. It's it's playing Mike is it's you're not. I'm not going to go in a flame war with the crazy feminist with with blind mike being the one calling that so again I didn't think it was a big the deal and I think what we're going to find his kirk sets up blind Mike for Trouble because you know this is a nothing thing brings it up and Mike Blind line. Mike says what you heard. Hey your pussy grow some balls and fire me. I never hired wind Mike for the Kirk thing like I didn't Kirk hired him. I guess we do pay him a very sad. I don't really care for Blind Mike. But this wasn't against them as I said on the originals like it was a fine blog. I it's no different than if Let's it's a Mantis wrote a blog like Debbie. Mantis is not leading us into this like. That's not his place he's recreational role player So okay they have that thing and now address it. We'll have him on after the break but if I again I heard it clearly grow some balls and fire. Me Is what he said. And also I don't like when blind aligned. Mike complains about the blind stuff. Like hey throw wall do this blind Mike. The only reason he exists because he's blind and he played that card because he not literally was leaving his interview with me which sucked and he'd be a nobody and no one would know who he is and not not nobody now but he literally won't be on the man's show we anat. He Sat. He turned as US leaving said. Oh there's one more thing you may like I'm blind and I said wait a minute legally yes can we we talk about and make fun of you. Yes so then to turn around me. Oh they make fun of me for being blind you literally when the most boring worst interview like I've ever had you got up and left. It was done. You had to turn around me like I'm blind so don't try then guilt trip Throw it you do the blind self. That's couldn't have been more black and white. That's that's why you got hired in. That's now what you've done from their fine but I don't ever want to play the cry cartooning blunt anyways. We'll have on the break. I had to have Minahan on the break break too because on with blind Mike because he's kind of who hired him and we'll see what he wants to do. Does he want to be fired. Fine we'll find out. I will say the first time I heard that clip kind of enjoyed that fire for by Mike. You know to know who you're going in that I just enjoyed it. I thought that was GONNA head. U2 Tommy in and In rigs unwise Frankie. Do you think when we're done with this next segment. Mike Love Job here. I think it's close. You think well. So you'RE GONNA Apologize. Yeah Yeah I think so. Frankly I think he tries to stand by his ground on his his thing that he just did. I think he's GonNa he and Kirk and game plan right now quickly. I I promise answers ground. He's GONNA be lit on fire like no you want it'll be. It'll be a very fast conversation. I'm he's going to be taken seriously. You don't see these battles will say you'd fire just because he stood his ground. Absolutely no respect now. I love that. You're nobody so you say grow some balls and fire me. Sure what do I care no skin off my back all right. Let's go to break. We'll see what he does. Give them a little time. To think about it it off it would be you would be able to again all right. We are back we just set the table. We have blind Mike and Kirkman hand. We set the table between those two between blind Mike specifically and Dave Save Boys. Are you there okay. So what did you guys. You guys heard everything I just said. Correct what in the last segment. Yes yes so. I'll start with you kirk since you are on the phone. Do think I misrepresented any part of that story No I don't think so. I think the conversation overseas you and I had was very brief on that whatever. It was Monday and Tuesday right a couple of minutes so you gave your reasoning for it. I didn't really agree with it but I said my my the core point was In correct me if I'm wrong you said essentially I don't WanNa get into this war with this feminist which you know whatever. I don't really agree with that. But okay what you can say whatever the Hell you want on your podcast. I don't care. Correct correct I said like I. If you're someone else wrote it. Would I have as big a problem. I I said No. It's like blind. Mike's Never really written a blog. As far as I know I don't want him leading us into a battle on the blog. Like what you say when what what says on Kirkman Eoghan is much more with you guys. What set on the Barstool banner you know Mike would it? It has direct reflection barstool sports. And he's we may have to answer for whatever I said and Mike would be the one speaking for us. Because it's he's the author we don't want the blind leading the stool correct right correct saying my boring switches pissed pissed me off okay. So which is that's why and I I know you says I'm going to say I'm joking or whatever I met in the moment I was fucking pissed especially because I thought you said that at this blog was sexist in some way which I didn't understand why I why why who said that. Who used that? I said it was sexist. Why did you why did you think that you said that I don't know if I said that the sex is not but you a couple of times. A conversation mentioned that you don't want to get to a battle with if they woman over the story. You did say that. I didn't with with Mike leading correct but I made it very clear. I don't want my my my real. Yeah well let's so then you ask you. I went on the podcast next day told the story later I would say D doesn't want you to write this post about this woman correct and I didn't understand that. Because so Steve Robinson our producer told me to start writing more which I was excited about and this is the thing that was big on the show. I said the Kirk Steve. I was like you guys might be able to handle this. Better Kirk said you write it so I wrote it and then the next day it's because I was sexist to be posted so I was like what the fuck was i. I don't understand what's going on so it sounds like ERC. Set you up for failure here. I I don't know about that. Well well why where are you getting the sexist. Where are you getting the sexist could smell this? Where are you getting the sexist from many and you just said that you never said it was sexy? Hip beds that you work with. I'm not going to get lulled into this conversation. Awesome what are you talking about. I'm trying to help your guy. We actually said it was sexist. Create a little a little orbit. He said it was sexist WHO said it was sexy? Answer the question man. You're not dealing with the blind idiot. WHO said it was sexist to Tommy and fucking talk was sexist answering and answering answering? Who set a sexist David Porno? You just said. I didn't into in two minutes ago. What you said to me was you? Don't WANNA get into war with over that that is leading it. We can replay the early clip. We're very clear and you agreed with me. We replayed the other of our phone conversation. I did I represented accurately you said yes I represented what what my description widened. Want the blog up in it. Nothing to do a sexism. What are you talking you didn't want to I don't i? Don't want blind is leading a battle okay. Great Okay I wrote to you on the phone. I said I agreed with with what he wrote right. And then you said it's exactly what you set my failure permanent Mike. Where'd you get confused? Blind Mike. You've heard me talk if you agree to get posted designing because Mike. We have a long history whether the person's since crazy or whatever you grew up you get right or wrong people write articles about it. Because you're the author. You've you've written one thing. Mike Your own nothing here. I don't want you leading. Goes very important battles with you. I don't fucking trust you. How hard is that to see that that? I don't want you leading Barstool the battles when you've been here for fucking minute and I don't trust you. It's not at all. I was told the right so I wrote. No I know you told it was sexist. Yes the fact. I'm saying the reason I wrote is involved with the show. Who said the thing that you agree with I? I pulled this exact reasoning exact to Kirkman. It was because that's what I heard it because you didn't want going after a woman or something it had not. Here's I don't care. Here's here's here's what I get the fuck. Do you care if some group goes after we right coming up. Have you read the articles articles. No No no echoes. Through tighter new cycle it goes through an entire new cycle of everything in for what for Blind Mike. No it's not worth it. It wasn't that Mike you agreed. You like okay. Whatever no big deal you set set that on the phone it is? It is a big deal when you have your guy on the air. Say I don't have the balls to fire them now. I gotTa fucking firemen talk to him and let him seeking warm his way out. You make it a big deal for you asked us to come on. I've coming on because Hugh AP Radio Safety Importantly Pussy. Fire me you pussy. Okay you said it. Well I what would I do if what would I do if nobody here. So player deal big deal. He makes a big the deal. I have the option. Now have a no-name employ be like. Hey Day Portas a pussy. Fire me you pussy. Who else would say that here? In his position. Nobody they of course was stupid. I was pissed that I meant that at the time and I was angry and I tried to set probably but I was fucking mad. So what do you want him if he can. I get credit. If you need is your pussy he said at least as opposed to other people have told me behind your back that you're pushing that building many times and they won't say it on the air at least he says it. Oh who tell me who. You're not a Pussy Reich. Tell we hope Briggs Rick rigs many times rates what Corrobos many times rigs may daily tells me that many many times. Give me proof we talk. What are you talking about many times? It's embarrassing everyday. He'll text me Pussy Pussy. Put the question to you blind. You called me a pussy. Sav they have no balls. I hate you so much I should fire. You want me to find. I don't okay so then like I think the apology should be. You have to come here to New York and kiss my feet then you can keep your job your choice Just the next time we go right. No we'll we'll get you a train ain't ticket we'll get you here. Kiss my feet saying sorry you can go back to your show other than that. You're fired I mean it wouldn't be the most embarrassing thing I've done for you so sure. Why not okay deal thanks? Thanks guys thought you later for Shatman sets them up for failure he sets them up for failure. They'll roast me on the show. Get all the people we had a conversation. It had nothing to do with the blog. The blog was fine. I agree with trainees. An idiot doesn't matter if the person we're dealing with is rational idiot but she's a lunatic but their group of people I could go down the list there fucking lunatics rationale common sense does not apply these people. Do I want blind Mike to start that war. No I do not. That's all it said Kirk whether you agree disagree. It was a civil like to second second conversation. It didn't take long all right fine. No big deal moved on vacation and then I gotta get this blind Mike on the radio saying I'm I'm a pussy if I don't fire like who here would do that. They live in this bubble but like honestly somebody on blind. Mike's Level I don't know Mantis Mantis or foster third ricky chevette. I'm trying to think like vibes or like the lower level. Guys were like new here. Who got jobs who would be like out of the blue? You pay days a fucking pussy. If he doesn't fire me grow some balls and fire me. Where can you do that? And expect that not to be brought up on radio or impact. The way I probably won't even know about it. But the minute hands Like a count the actual Kirk minihane count they clip it and they send and it to me like ten times and people sending me obviously to see it. They're making sure I see it and I swear to God I would fight him and my wife Kirk on the phone is what I thought was going to happen. It's Kirk was going to say if he goes I go all right. You both go fine. I'm not I'm not doing it. You said over a break. You're like what are the predictions. And you said. I think the PODCAST will be cancelled within ten. Because I didn't think they'd backed down. I thought it was gonNA know he can say that and carcassone. I'm going to be well and I have the fire and I think kirk talented and good but he started the pot. You're not dealing with that fucking clown at w. e.. You cannot some people can. I'M NOT GONNA fire big cat if he's there's a pussy farmers to Val Blind Mike. I'm on the record. I don't even fucking like the guy so like what makes you think you're going to do that. Just me. Not like that was in the. I don't know you. You want him kissing my feet just the fact he said he would. I can't have a blind guy kissing my team. That's too tough. Maybe I'll think of something else. But just the fact he asked he's like final do it. I don't know I mean what Kirk set him up for failure. Yeah something out lost in translation between you. Don't want blind Mike leading a charge and and this article how how it wasn't sexist at all it was. I said literally to Kirk on the phone. It was a pretty good blog. Like forgotten right agreed with everything. Everything he said the whole story's insane but if we want to cover it will cover it by our top guys. So I'll fucking right it in then if people WANNA call and the press and quotes there quote me not fucking blind Mike. It sounded to me like what got lost in translation. was you told Kirk very clearly. I don't want blind. Mike leading. The charge of us is going against a feminist and that got translated as like he doesn't want you writing about feminism and feminist. There's rational smart feminists who like us late. Twenty is like nuts like what she did not. She hates everything fine. I don't care do I really want to deal with another one these lunatics and I'm not like an do it because blind. Mike doesn't like her. You know I don't like a either but I'll choose when we enter those. So that's that's that in again kirk about because Kirk like they're going back and forth Kirk said I represented the conversation accurately and he tried to shift it to like different after blind makes like well. I didn't know that my and you know you bring emphasized six skinny jeans. He's lucky job. I mean he's lucky as job rigs. Would you like to apologize Dave for calling him a pussy occur. I would for the record like to state that I do not textured like Manhattan that David Pussy. If I were GONNA say that I would say there's very few people here who would say that I think to my face like I guess the only people I feel like who would. Actually they called me pussy are like higher level guys who clearly have no problem saying it's my face. Yeah I agree with that. I was Kirk Manhattan. Things got tense there in poor Mantis Mantis Mantis Mantis. NOSERS at I only meant is running around. Call me the thing that drew me nuts with Turkey's he tried to tried to like change. It like it was was never sexist was never word. I don't want to go after a crazy person with blind Mike. That's it. That was the point of it. I do hold. mantis comes in here next segments. Armie fucking good all right. Well that was Kirkman and blind. Mike they I think that was like a raise. I I feel like the only time Kirks del Rio losses way deals with me like he has these idiots ideals with can roll over and then goes up. Verse me he always gets steamrolled. He'll say didn't but if you listen back to that he did. And they always pump pumping out of your God just got like evaporated into minutes fabricated We'll be we back. That was fun. That was fun breath. All right I was blind my and Minihan. And we're GONNA Paul out. We got. Mikey podcast. Mikey following here. Video emerged. That showed Some very I guess from this was When this right before I went away so is the night of the Christmas party new holiday? What Wednesday December eight? So there's video of all the highlights lights of Barcelos sports over the course of the year and a pump video in the video ends with our merch closet upstairs and people taking merch and you know I think there was. WHO's that white rapper guy? We got Jet Ski Jet Ski took something and PF T- And and Marsh. Now some people like Tommy you're in there and like you and most of the people like wow we're taking this for that but whatever they were just going in there taking it and Eh Mikey Fowler. WHO's sitting this? Mikey podcast wins. It goes into the marts closet takes a sweatshirt and puts it under his shirt clearly indicating he knows he's doing something wrong like a thief at a department store would do he puts it looks around puts it under under his shirt and goes away now. The timing was pretty good for mikey follower because everyone was leaving vacation. I don't know have you. Publicly discussed disgust any of this yet and even the Christmas party after that. Yeah so he. He's Christmas party now. I also heard that there was some some sort of back and forth and I didn't know about any of this until this video with you and Ebony and Ebony had accused you you of stealing from the front and it became a big thing. She put a picture of Mikey's face. I guess my instagram my instagram. I wanted or something like for stealing March and he took it down. What is going on? That's literally it but what do you mean. That's what you're that. I took from the merchant stairs I put and I put it right on Ebony staff and said here this is the sweatshirt and because I get like I had one already and that was. It's like okay so what happened was the front so from the front. I was going to do something so I took a sweatshirt to go do it for Barstool. And then she put my instagram up on the wall. You took uh all right. You took a sweatshirt from the Front for just Y. Because like I wasn't wearing anything barstool and I was going to do something Barced Oak. You add you're going to vent or something and what. What are you going to fairly familiar? Okay all right so you want to barstools. Sweatshirt took it fine. You didn't hide that you just took and then I gave it to my girlfriend so I couldn't return it when he posted it on the wall so I went up to the merge closet and then I grabbed one and then it was like. Here's the sweatshirt take it back and that was it. UH-HUH I wanted. I wanted to get done with the Ebony thing really not so you you took the sweatshirt for the million dollar which we just is an out million dollars worth of game new podcast. I just bogged it. You took it for them. The tide IOT yet the tide. I hardy in you warrant with with that. I have a picture which is how she saw it. Then you took the sweatshirt and gave it to your girlfriend then avenues like why did you take this tidei sweatshirt. You couldn't get the sweatshirt back from your girlfriend so I don't WanNa give it to. You stole it upstairs. This is all quite convoluted and sounds like the scheme of a madman. Why did you need a sweatshirt I wanted to wear something burst out the event and I texted? That wasn't that wasn't was it their live. Show that you sent me to got it got it got it and I texted. Deva said look for the tie dye sweatshirt. I thought it was cool. You guys aware it so it was like look for who the tide sweatshirt sweatshirt. What okay? Why couldn't how long have you been doing your girlfriend like four months? Guess so like you gifted like hey. Here's a gift. She went with me to the philly thing and I was. I take this She liked it so I said keep it so who was wearing it at the event me and and then after it sweater gave her the sweatshirt k the go up good marketing for the sweatshirt you steal the sweatshirt from ups there's and then you promptly just put it back yeah. I started on avenues. Desks here you go take it. And then that was that and she believed that it was the one yeah and then that was done. So what is the thoughts or emotions. Are you walking these halls right right now. With knowing like every like that guy's a Klepto. Oh yeah it sucks to every meeting I walk into all these things guys steal shit sucks. How `Bout Blattman now? He's the guy. Put that together right. Are you guys enemy so the guy who put the video together includes this. I had no idea it was in there. I'd never seen the video l. laughing and then you almost. It's almost like a record. Pause when you see you put the sweatshirt underneath. It's like Holy Shit. Have you stolen Johnathan else here. Yeah over two years. Yeah definitely like Murcia me. Yeah he used to sit next to the merchantmen down says the old office and if I like something ask him if I can have it well. That's on St you were. I mean. It's the same thing as kind of not putting on your shirt absolutely fucking yeah. Have you stolen any like thing beyond merchandise like hardware hardware computers. No I told you when a certain podcast recently said something about that. I was the one that heard the failing upwards thing like I'm not `cau- aw yeah that could be well if they catch on them. I'll get plane so we're like what's your mental state like. Just I wasn't show where we're talking. I was like we may never see Mikey. PODCAST again. Like he's been caught red handed by cameras that I don't even know who install who installed the cameras do we know. It says something on the door like who put it there. I have no idea what that so you see this on the video. Skip the Christmas party up and like what. What did you talk to anybody who went back to work the next day like it never happened? I never had never talked to like Erica. Be Like Oh Eric came up to me and said Oh Mike. You laughed about it. I'm very close with the people who have to report to hear other than you about this and the ad didn't like this is definitely way more than I've ever wanted to be talking about us. Don't it definitely want to be the guy caught stealing. No no no on camera definitely don't know for sure not no you don't WanNa be that guy like what for I. Don't you want to have to say this but Thomas Frankie just texted me. Why don't you ask him why he didn't think of it as you say? I thought the camera was outside the door so I thought I could just like wins and secretly. Give the Hoodie back to well because to make it seem like it's already had hoodie. What he took a Hoodie that I was immediately going to give right to ebony? Oh so you're trying to make. Yes yes he stole a Hoodie to replace the one he stole. Yes that's literally what happened. That's why for all new to him. He took a Hoodie and then just gave it back to her. Fuck wait a minute for the record why he put under a shirt it was to give it back. How are you not calling him out on this? I said I didn't think of that. You say Pussy. So that was frankie. But how did you realize that. But I think there was maybe a more important nugget in this whole thing. You knew their cameras there. You just have outside the door yet. That's crazy it says it on the door this cameras. Oh Wow that's like that's like like deactivating the alarm system in going in like at sump. It was all because he didn't want Ebony thing was so mad I've tried to stay out of all of this stuff and she posted like I'm not mad at Ebony for any of the ships you we've made we've made up. We're friends. She posted like right underneath the no stealing my instagram picture and like I'm private on instagram. Like it was more really embarrassing. I'm not here to like be on the CEO. CEO's wall like something dom question. And by dom I mean obvious you WANNA sweatshirt to go to this event. Witch is the launch event. Seems like a rational. I know I I was thinking to me. That's why not just ask somebody. Hey I'm going is event. Kangaroo switch I I know I was sitting here with a bunch of people and it was like a Friday after work or something like drunk in like I knew I had to go and I just took it off the thing. How did he know it was you? I have no idea but but she had my in like I don't know how she has like she knows because you posted the pictures but somebody said that to her like somebody who was like I know who stole the Teihotu or something and I was. What was your relationship like before before really close? I really like this. No Way. Really like she's led you down this path with your life for a couple of days. They like I mean I'm no pro. My keyboard is impossible now not to look at Klepto forever I mean. That's you get caught on camera stealing stealing a sweatshirt. Your Klepto Guy. I think his story helps the girlfriend. Like this shit's going on either sweatshirt sweatshirt back. I mean if you really want to me. That's I don't know maybe four months but like I work with this fucking lunatic pick up my ass or I'm a bias sweatshirt. How much of a fucking sweatshirts six? I don't know I I just never thought it would get to this obviously as long doubling down on stealing the you know this cameras there like when you're getting embarrassed for having stolen up and then to go and do the under the arm steel is crazy town. Yeah what was your initial reaction when you saw that video clearly. He skipped the party. I was so upset. Did you look around the room to see in in fact my desk and started working and then when everybody started going just like went home what I mean. It was stunning. It turned into talk. That was just to let you know you were the talk of the Party. I didn't WanNa get everyone like. Hey can drink by the way you see that Klepto might be followed shirt like Frankie said it to me on two times. That wasn't wasn't just taking it. That's like stealing. Put it under the. I can't believe you do. I didn't even know this. was that big of an epidemic to be honest by people taking shit. It was selective. If with who was on that I can probably like I could. I mean there's a lot of people. Yeah you probably run with the gang with like just how we had the gambling. Click and we got like you know fucking billy the kid over here like stealing shit. No no and I guess that tie-dyed Sweatshirt I've come to realize that that's like in demand. Man Like people like that sweatshirt Mike followers short demand because my he follows fucking Horton him. I was going to say speaking to that gambling. Click in the Christmas party. I found out information about our friend. Marwan you WANNA guess how much more on Betsy game when he gambles and he guesses. I don't know whether we're going higher low. I don't either get a thousand thousand dollars a game and he's a big online blackjack guy he was up like twelve thousand one night. Nine thousand one. I've stoled you million I I WANNA I WANNA become friendly with marijuana. I think Marwan somebody you want on your side. Yeah and everything you say confirms out all right Mike Yummy all its has. I think the greatest thing that happened you or the only benefit was break time. Yeah I but yeah I guess. Just don't look no nobody would. That's the thing about that. If you just walked in with that sweatshirt and didn't put it under your shirt and just gave the ebony. Nobody was I just wanted to prove Dabney that I'd like the ass exactly what I do. It's like only a thief cares that much about proving. They're not a thief. Klepto songs my phone he. He played unbelievable so to thefts occur. Really really owns zero of the hoodies. I meant in my closet Chabala I did for my cousin everybody else. Okay all right Mike. You know more stealing crazy. I didn't know I I think the crazy to know this cameras and still go. It's like robbing a bank and just like walking out of the bank in the mud like not even concealing the cameras within the the armor and the bank within the bank. I wonder if he knew he left the room. But one that montage played that he was dead like before before he knew right These cameras are on the inside. Not The outside. I'm fucking dead. He'd be thinking okay. Maybe I'm maybe I've gone and then boom curious to hear Ebony. Ebony is not here but I am curious to know why she had it out for him so bad as she just takes a fence that takes up. She's had said that was a problem. She she liked it but there's no way if he has his great relationship with Ebony that she posts his instagram picture and like tries Vahid each other. Clearly well Mike he may may have liked ebony. Ebony did not like Nike Co chance. What what Yeah I mean I. I was stunned when Sr.. Because overt. I think yeah. Do you get this. What do you think the better move? There is the ask your girl. Assuming everything he said is true which I don't know how you can assume anything he says is true at this point With his criminal history. But would you rather are steal one ups. There's like he did or just be like. I got to give the sweater by roasted. I think you say that. And if she really wants he was by by one. Yeah we're not at. This is not a birkin bag communities of sixty dollars fifty dollars sweatshirt. Or or if you're GONNA snag with from upstairs to give just do it in normal fashion right you at like. You're a thief. Just go to the closet grabbing. Walk Maybe Evans watching those. I don't know committee avenues watching those tapes he wanted. He just is so riled up about being accused of stealing one sweatshirt. That's where it's Blattman a Blattman. Seven perfect flattens the man who made this video yep so we had mikey follower. WHO's Klepto hair and you made the video. That exposed him Yup. Did you show that time buddy. Beforehand showed it to. There's a couple of people who saw the video before ran do do do you. Not like microphones. No no I think I do feel a little bad that I included it but I saw the video and it would have been irresponsible as a producer tonight. Include it. It's it's too good of a shot at it like I wouldn't be doing my job properly. I guess I agree with you. There could be a school of thought. If you like Mikey Fowler like tip them off off be like Yo. You're GonNa like not love what happens in this video but no you just give you. He skipped the party. I mean you ruined I heard that I do feel bad about that. Would have been irresponsible right. You don't like you. That comes on your desk. Your hands or yeah. I didn't want to run it up the chain too high because then so would have been like. Oh they don't include it like it had to be in there. I'll say this if you always run up a chain high enough in those instances you'll always let's get the green light. Well I also got the green light without doing that. Then I do feel bad luck I I had to be doing. We don't really talk. Well we never really talked like prior to it like you said not now all right. I our naked Blab and that was the first I our. It was fun. That was a good time. We'll be back at the top of the hour for the second half eight three three eight five seven eight six six five and take some calls Wildcard weekend we've talked about about a lot about a lot of quarterbacks. We have not talked about Shawn Watson yet. He's somebody we kind of looked over. I guess but yeah I I might actually put him bubble more Jackson. That's how much I like him behind. Mom's a Lotta guys are not that high on the Lamar I mean no. That's more of like how much I love does Shawn Watson I've I've ever since always mentioned breeze. I guess his old accessible. Yeah well I guess you look at it. Either way. Tom quarterbacks in the playoffs yeah right it does feel like if you're gonna go with the older guys. How do you not go with Brady? Yeah no I agree with that. Yeah Yeah I'm just I. The Shawn Watson was more of that for starting team which quarterback. Yeah I mean he's got a little bit of a history of injuries but something about him. I don't know this name. Ribbons is at a real name. Same as Rabbani Rabbani snores. One of guy. Hey so if the chiefs lose the first gain. Hey can we think about injury. What do you guys think? That's an interesting one. No I don't think he's one of those guys right and he's like schottenheimer runaway. Like you know you're going to have like a good team you know you're GonNa play offs. But can he win the big one he. He hasn't who was there who was in Kansas City before him They went was it. Romeo Burnell they were really Now and he was. He was the Texans Right. They were like one in fifteen one year. Thought it was Cornell now I see in twenty eleven chiefs always busy always mismanaged the clock or do something stupid. He's not great hot Haley and then Romeo colonel was known term coach for yeah. I don't know it's like one of those things you look at it. I've you know what you have. I only and fire. It's there's more coaches that are really bad than good. He's a good coach is good players. They like playing for him. Can he win the Big One. No but I don't because the chiefs I mean this it's only year two with homes. And you're not gonNA get any better than Andy Reid on the love me very good. I'm bill cowardice. He ever want to go back. But I mean you don't sweat. I won't Change Read Tower Sumo coach at some point right now I think fuck up by me as a fuck up Hunter what's going on. Hey present just wanted to know Not Our school idol last year. Curious if y'all GonNa Bring that back in twenty twenty many years that's kind of run its course now we gotta bring it back. We one hundred percent gonNA bring it back Kevin what's up. Great Call Credit Gone Mom and happy Friday thank you. You're the mayor of Philadelphia. Are you still saying you should be taken. They should've taken fold over one hundred drew percent. But I mean we'll see what happens as playoffs. I chance for went to get a playoff victory so I'm rooting for him. I hope he has it. And I'd love for Philadelphia. Get back to the Super Super Wall. we'll see Frankie. I don't know if it's possible. I just a bunch of things just hit my phone. That bieber's released a new Song Yummy. Can we listen to that first listening. It knee jerk reaction. I've I've already heard it. Oh quite a few times it has just come out came up this afternoon. Okay get a music video the other day. I haven't heard it yet. What midnight okay? I haven't heard I've not heard of yet either. I think music Friday loves new new BIEBER BIEBER. Got That your thank you. Uh Steadier and stand on ice. Stay on her own aside novel wine. Every time Makamba Ryan jet surfboards sunset. That kind of you got that. Yeah thank you Kimmy on there is controlling myself compromised. You're incriminating you. Know this guy's run in a rematch. Sunset aspect you take. I'm not wildly impressed so K.. I like it. Will we put it up there. In the Pantheon of bieber greats. No but but it's just great to have new bieber music and I'm a big Bieber guy like his music that that wasn't great for me that's not make it onto my spotify list. I have a lot of I have a lot of different lists. You know what I was listening into eight a lot over Break just spotify eighties. Hits me as the best the best music just the best music. It was one after another after. Another like Frankie. If you go put on go to spotify right can you play music from spotify yet. I'm on it right now. Play the first a good just every like I'll tell I've no idea put it on shuffle. So are you on. What playlist are you on? I'm on eighties. Hits it's like it. Looks like a cassette. Yeah Okay and nine hundred eighty nine. Yeah it it it like has like A. I don't know like a checkerboard on the top and bottom blue and pink on now hold on on the desktops I may not have the same one. No actually that's probably not. Is it just called. Eighties hits eighties. Lower case s hits. Oh yeah one. Million followers one point four million dollars. Yes okay that's the one all right so play it. And when I say shuffle awful shuffle and I mean it it. I couldn't listen to every time like the fucking eighties man. All right. Go Err expired I mean as the fucking Pyre Song Game I know this what's that said even I know this. I like every song I mean. Come on it's on all right switch I Miss Flint. It's like it gets at the beginning of every song the hook right away. It doesn't the eighties. Didn't let you breathe. It wasn't like a slow build up beat drops and you're getting strangled to death by the by the rhythm. Switch it instant they. These are shopping. Just random we're stuck in the eighties when even I can pop my head l. l.. It's like a killer last. This'll be the first one. I'd have a little bit of a pause at the it's got this I don't know what. What is this song together in electric dreams by the Human League humanly up at me this GonNa go in our moving? Yeah but this. This doesn't like Jimmy fired up all right. Switch it three and one equipments remember uh-huh North. This is CHAKA shotguns huge. Nobody is this ain't nobody. Yeah where's this becoming a half-point nobody loves you. Yeah Oh yeah big time song. Just take a minute to good. Yeah no this is the UH favorite segment for Erica. We've ever cattle right in my wheelhouse. Yeah Oh yeah we let us get to the vote and then we'll go coming right now could become now all right next four one eighty S. Uh Lionel. Now Dan Eric saying definitely definitely yes but I don't have it yet. I don't have any either but I mean I'm still. You're still not breathing. All right five one play. The next thing will zoo lender action. I know this is big. I can tell by the beginning unprotected. Sex Yeah I mean this playlist is so fucking good so good. I just listened to this old vernal. Did you start in New Guinea shows recommended. Think you switch it. You are watching you. Oh come mine either. Eight plays maybe the strongest drop in history music. Right back all right. So what's it six. Have a switch it. It's one on my favorite sport. Play little you half. That might feel like whoever can pile this list sent like listen to every song ever Vermeille. The scripture says nothing unforgettable heads from the nineteen if when I put it on I couldn't turn a high people like we go out only ninety nine. The view view league play. Yeah they kept it to that should eighty nine double-o uh we were. I heard this Jimmy Neutron. I wonder why I know it's different type of music but this is just better than all the other music ever made. How would you describe this job? The only part I haven't eighties we've played the seven days in the top ninety. Nine songs the seventies. You wouldn't be doing different like the songs. Please don't get me going out in the seventies they don't like the seventies better Yeah but I would have a similar reaction. I would have the same reaction just not as much much like the synthetic noises synthetic noises like get me going back. Here's biggest grin on one of the songs Lindsay put up his hand goes Yup. I mean you get the point if you like. The eighties eighties. Hits on spotify is is is one effort out. I just kept saying it over. Yes yes like kind of like Eric like I I. I couldn't get out of the shower had gone on my. I'm knocking out to Eliza slows. The pre-game said to keep going so so good last week we had to take one more still. Yeah we gotta take one more still so where you step away. We'll be back.

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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host. Johnny taft. This podcast is the full show. From today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Welcome to undisputed. We are live from LA. I'm Johnny Taft here with skip Bayless and manage sharp arming up celebrating another wrong cowboy way to go other made a right? I missed every game show that jink p g. Celebrate in. Why would I celebrates you like seeing you sit upset if you thought I was going to come out here and gluten you were correct? Genie. I know you don't do this heavy stuff right here. The time came back. Thank you. But white me out. I had cases a hand. Duval. I got little got things dible cream. Yeah. You wiped out what three or four before the show started your last Cup? Will let your leg gumming. I don't need any of those new new Google product. Now, you know out. Oh, man it right here was in that. Have you hide an eagle, but yeah. Yeah. Way. Like, you're gonna. I don't either. This could be interesting is could be just fine. Let's do this. The up art. It's in the trash. Why would you do this? Oh now that you see today at that that that boy. All right. We need to board that there is one huge story today. And that is in Dallas things started actually pretty well. For the Cowboys last night deck Prescott. Got Mark Cooper involved early. With a touchdown pass in the first quarter to put them up seven nothing. But later in the first act through a terrible interception into double coverage in the end zone. It was one of his two turnovers in the game. The titans took the lead in the third quarter. Marcus mariota sealed the win with a dust down run in the fourth. The Cowboys dropped to three and five with the loss. Let's take a listen to what Dak had to say after the game disappoint. I mean, we didn't get the job done. We gotta do better starts. With me starts me. I all the way throughout this whole team. So I mean, very disappointed as you say coming off the bye week clean things up for good going into this one to come out with his laws during. Very disappointed, Shannon. Who deserves the blame. You're speaking. Get the guy that you don't turn the football over the guy that you bet young quarterback he'd better than walk it. Oh, no. No. No. No. Because here's the thing. Debt press got his most responsible because sometimes if you have a decent team. And I believe the Cowboys are decent team you could overcome bad quarterback play or marginal quarterback play. If he doesn't turn the ball over. But when he's not playing well, and he turned the ball over not overcoming that. They had an opportunity a golden opportunity. Okay. Mr. chip shop feel okay? No harm note value to have those three point. But they get the ball back. They go down and get a touchdown seven. Nothing should have been ten nothing. Now the fourth mar iota take the ball away from him. Now, if you put a stranglehold on this you about to go up fourteen is second down. And I told you go happen. They're gonna force feed him skip because Jerry need to show that want to get him in bobble. Ooh, he can transition. He could celebrate that quick twitch is seen that would actually welcome just sitting over here daily. But anyway, Bayless. Why would he force that ball? You told me guy takes cared about half or inception. Look it up genius told me he had the greatest rookie quarterback at NFL. You disagree? I can't refute. It. He did. I don't remember. Yeah. I think that's a fat. Oh, you never refuted. It never told me. I was wrong because it was right did. But that's in the past. That's in the distant let me speak. My turn. I got clean up your messes. Look clean that up last night. How you clean that? Okay. Thank you. I appreciate tell me. What's mine? When it's my turn. It's over you. You got to be thirty seconds start last season. His ten game of two or more turnover is tied in the hair the list, you do not want to be on. Yep. James Winston about Derek Carr shown. That zone on now last night, Omar iota like Brady Rodgers Gyeogui loot. Like, no. He looked like Tom Tom Brady. Will you stop erupted me, why don't don't put those guys in the same sentence? You can't after what happens about putting this the same sentence with Nathan Peterman. Okay. That press the Peterman he is. Point you just made. I don't need you to sit back and just let me have my tell me what it's my turn is ticking to not take you keep you up to me. Okay. You can answer. This just this one thing in a move on. Can you tell the people at home I gone to QBR? I don't know last night. All I know is he has plummeted all the way to twenty fifth in the NFL. That's all I care about. He would be at twenty either drop that fall. Was third his first year and fourth last year. Now, he's twenty fifth. You asked me I told you that why do you do that? But anyway, Aaron Rodgers is twenty second. All I'm saying is this is that if you look at the first quarter, they were riding alone. Good, but the office was going through seek zt with getting his touches. He was running the football somehow convince themselves that deck that press got is the answer. And they want him to be Patrick Mahomes. They want him to be walking tour in. So they're getting away for the pro from what makes this office successful in. That's Zeke you Elliott now you can keep banging your head against the wall and says. Dakyns the answer. Jerry Jones can keep saying what you we're talking about Jerry. But not about you waiting. Let's give Baylor's. I don't know how much more you need to see before you come to the realization that I knew to be true for a long time that Chris can play. But the office need to go through Zeke, Elliot, and if you asking him to be the guy that says, you know, what we will hop on your back Dak take us to where we need to be. That's not happening. So I laid this now you might look at Jason gag, but I've laid this loss at the lead of Dak Prescott you finish game. That's all you got. Because here I go. I would like to announce I can no longer defend my Dallas Cowboys. In fact, it's very hard for me to say the word, my I think they're just the Dallas Cowboys because what we saw last night at Gerry world was exactly what the record says we saw we saw a bad three and five football team. This team will not win the division. This team will not make the playoffs. And you were right. You will win the bet because this team is no closer to the playoffs than Dallas's to Paris, France, not fair Paris, France because that was pathetic. And the shock in the night for me Jerry said candidly after the game. I didn't see that coming. I didn't see this coming because I all the way to this moment. I can't decide which was worse scary bad Dak or that defense that defense came in last night, the number one scoring defense in all of pro. Football coming off a bye week against thirtieth ranked Tennessee offense. And because I went to Vanderbilt in Nashville, Tennessee, I have a whole bunch of friends who are Tennessee fans, and they were dreading last night because they thought Tennessee couldn't score a single point at Dallas. I gave me you gave him ten. What would I get? My can't remember I think I gave him higher than twenty to ten ten. So what did we see what we saw was? I don't think Marcus mariota is very good. And I still don't think he's very good because he often looks like a wide receiver without much of an arm trying to play quarterback had you ever seen body throw push passes. Like he does he does like shotput passes. He throws Nerf passes with a slow release and not much velocity. And he completed so many that they went eleven of fourteen on third down. I couldn't watch it anymore fence again, I agree with everything you said about Dak Prescott. But the double jeopardy was the defense was. Pathetic as I've seen it over the last three years in a couple of times last year. I thought it was the worst defense in the NFL. What is going eleven of fourteen for Marcus mariota? You did you turn him into Tom Brady? Every time. The ball left is hand. I said we got that will either defendant. A we will pick it and every time it went to a wide open receiver just looking around. Like, really, I got this eleven of fourteen. Did we ever even slow them down? I don't think we did. So. Now, I wanna frame this by saying that as long as I've been rooting for this football team. And I went to my first game at the Cotton Bowl in nineteen sixty one as long as I've been reading for this team in all my years. I have never watched a more devastating disillusioning just. Downright disgusting game as that win last night because of the circumstance you're coming off the bye you land, Amari Cooper, you talk. Hudson. How the greatest offense of line coach ever around outta retirement age seventy five to try to fix the offense of line. You're worse. You're you're three at home. Remember there three and at home. And you you put yourself in position in that game to be up. You didn't go into the gory detail. They should have been up twenty one to nothing the first three times they have the football. They go first and ten at the Tennessee twenty three and they wind up with zero points because they missed the field goal. And then it's first and ten at the Tennessee fifteen and they cashed it finally, Amari ran a little in and out. Yeah. My any hidden for the touchdown. Then they get it to your point first and goal at the at the four, and he he makes the single worst play of his NFL career did Dak Prescott. So I go deeper into deck. This is the moment of truth. I can no longer defend that that was pathetic. What did I tell you yesterday? This wasn't just a must win. This was you better win or heads will roll. And that includes the quarterback in the head coach, and we'll get to the head coach here a little bit who you correctly. Are you saying you can't defend that throat or you can no longer defend Dak Prescott whole year? I can't defend his year. I just said he's twenty fifth and QBR. I can't defend I could defend third. The first year. I could defend fourth last year. I thought he was really very good last year. Given that Zeke cloud that hung over the team all year is he gonna play it or not gonna play. And then when he comes back will be better. And they went nine and seven, and he was fourth overall and QBR we'll I can defend that. But this was. Unforgivable and indefensible because let's look at two plays because on the first series. He on third and seven from the tweeted it get down to the twenty third and seven from the twenty this is you've got to make a play you're at home. This is the turning point of your season, this is sink or swim. And he throws the fate to Amari Cooper. And again is the Amari happy. Amari dependent but he throws a fait drought. He just throws it out of bounds. That's not even a jump ball. Well, if this is the game of the year for you. This is the turning point game. You can't make throw that poorly that early in the game, and he'd already miss Kobe's Li I think Cole got held on the play. But he missed him over the middle. When he looked like he was open and they called holding. But then we get down to the fateful play that you've talked about. It's only second goal. It's not even thirty goal. And what did we see? We saw Dak fading back with that gun shy body language that I've seen more and more because he just looked like he's looking for the rush. You know, they always say Brady so great because he never sees the rush. Well, he's looking for the rush, and he lobs a lollipop only in Amar's direction as if Amari is seven feet tall. He's six one. He he's not Rico gathers and he's double cover. He's not just doubled. He's failed by two really good players their best corner and their best safety. That's. An all pro safety and Kevin buyer who's all over him. And it's not even close. It's the all time. Most boneheaded wrong headed decision you could ever make because the game is teetering. You said you could be up twenty one to nothing at least at that point. You could be up fourteen to nothing and contingency come back from fourteen nothing. I don't know. I'm not sure because they can't score until you give them life and you give them new new inspiration. And then they gain momentum and they gain confidence. And then they just couldn't be stopped on offense. And it also long on that play. And then what it Kevin buyer? Do. He went San Francisco Tito, and he ran to the star in the middle of the field, and he celebrated on the star. And you know, what it was brazen, and you can say it was out of bounds. But it was beautiful because it drove a stake. Right. Do Dallas heart. And I believe at that point at that moment that was the turning point and the closing point for this foot. Team this year. I believe that football team lost heart and lost faith in its quarterback. Because it was such a bad decision. Throwing in the direction of your new target. Your new wide alley and Kevin buyer adds insult to injury by running all the way to the star and celebrating. Then I thought it was weird that is like deja voodoo because a number thirty one came flying in. Resort. George Teague was thirty one and Byron Jones comes flying in. God bless him and tries to knock him off the star. But the point was made buyer got away with it because it's the turning point emotionally and mentally for the football team. You know this. How are you going to respond tweeted? Okay. Make him regret. It. Get mad and go make him regret it making eat that. Right. What happened? Mario made the defense eater again. And again, and again, you're about to sleep while you're disappointed because as you mentioned, the Tennessee titans have the thirtieth ranked up as you have the number one scoring defense, and they taught by defense and for them to go get twenty eight and you would have thought your defense because the our ranks high going to get that defense. They would struggle. They didn't struggle skip. Now, Mario to get what he wanted. And when you when you when you look at this game in the back to the touchdown celebration. So this this where we hit it. Everybody's remaking. You do they remade? Magnum PI remain Hawaii five will. So everybody the sharpie of babies I just wanted to know. The sharpie the river dance the proposal on the sidelines like the pom pom there that death. What we're headed but toback to on the field. Skip. I'm not seeing the progression that you would want to see in the third year quarterback. As a matter of fact, I think you agree with this regret. It's going the wrong way, you see tear, and again, you know, hard the positions to play. Once you start to lose confidence in yourself. And that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing gun shy. On seeing seeing I'm seeing what's going to happen next. I'm seeing careless with the football. 'cause you keep trying too hard to make a playwright isn't are not there, you why would you the thing that you said you wanted to get away from is that the single coverage. If force you to go today, and sometimes you fourth rose to him. Okay. This guy's double covered. I understand. He just got there. You like the way he run rest. Yes, he can accelerate. But skip it sometimes it's better to live to see another day get to third down. And then who knows what happened? So maybe if you go up ten nothing, maybe it changes the landscape, but was you turned up all over there? And they go down the field and get a touchdown in this a seven seven ballgame. All bets are off you giving them confidence when you could have left them for dead. So now, you've got a dog fight on your hands. Yeah. And you told me Hudson how off his like his land. They look worse last night at home than at any point. They lost the line of scrimmage consistently in the only point you made to open that I disagreed with is about Zeke. I don't know how many times that Lynn hand called Zeke on first down. And there's no creativity to it is just like straight ahead of you. You get a guy because they know. Okay. The Tennessee playing options. Okay. On first down Zeke averages this especially rookie season. Even last it wasn't as high the rookie. So they really wanna get in second and five football. So the defensive coordinator did a great job of shutting off Zico I down. Now, get you going back to the scrimmage second ten to twelve now. I know you've got the photo ball in with that shaky quarterback the deeper you get against the chains. The worst it's going to get in the more likely. He is to try to make something that's out of nothing. He's holding the ball town is he's holding on because he's trying to make a play. And I watch rod- smart skip on the seven step drum to one thing. Your position coach running back coach till you geared. I think Gary Brown is the running back coach in Dallas. Yeah. You can't cut federal step drought rod Smith because if you could when you cut the guy Dak is in three that guy who got up. Zach you semi step up three he'll get up on the ground and come hit your quarterback in about. Okay. And to your point. What was the one flash? We we saw some good Dak it was at the end of the first half. When they did tie the score at all. And they went ten plays seventy eight yards. Why because they were going no huddle and he wasn't thinking anymore. He was just stepping into it and firing and he's best when he steps in and throws darts. He doesn't need to be throwing any lollipops. And then he threw a twenty three yarder to Hearn's tied the score. And I think okay, maybe you got this. Then they came out and stopped Tennessee, which got the second half kickoff because they deferred at first. And then it was the most pathetic series of the game. When they got the ball back will still tiger go sack Zeke zero and sack, and I just I wanted to turn my TV off. I don't wanna watch this anymore because that's that's going backward. At some point time. You have to come to the realization Cowboys are. A very good football. They have their three and five. That's what they are sell say they. Renders? Well, this is this is scary. What your record is because as much potential as they flashed in the first six minutes of that game. They went from maybe blowing out Tennessee to getting blown out at home. That's a bad sign. Guess what? The next two weeks. They only road them burns apprai-. Fly eagles fly the motive bird you Atlanta's not. I'm gonna tell you about. Now, you'd think you struggle with Omar iota on the ball. Matt Ryan got Julio. Julio got him to say a touchdown like great come in bunches was that not a house awards for Dallas last year? What happened? And then what happens Washington comes to Dallas on thanksgiving. But Oden long told you they say, they're wounded wounded big. He can't do what I remember first cousin. He went to Seattle last. Ginny law fo- star offensive line. A lot of them guys. Now, they're trying to make I don't know how check down island Smith going to do it. He's lost three starters Kirk cousins. They hold my beer. Not only did I lose off into two starters. I love Jordan re Josh Dotson with injury. But I nobody make new you told me I was terrible. Fuck it up. We're not talking about what we are talking about washing because they're coming soon. And I don't think Kirk cousins drinks beer. But beside that point Kirk cousins was one and six against Alison I always look forward to playing against Kirk cousins. And I do not look forward to playing against Alex Smith. I don't care what you say that there's something new about this team. It's different. I know they're just decimated. But just watch I wouldn't out if they come to Dallas and win that game. If they win that game. It's going to plummet because then the eagles come back again to Dallas. That's what code Jon Gruden trade at Amari Cooper. You don't have a tough. I gave him a number four picking draft to get me a top five pick back that idea that right there. I told you Gruden did. He did some great thing position, man. The it'll mean eagle pick somebody good come on stop play. But anyway, let's I'm not gonna let you try to shift to talk about Cho's grew. Nick what he might get. I'm not. I do this is about that. And I need you accept more responsibility. His dad went. What I can say because Judy. Gene. He. Prize? New got all of every time. I turn around here. The got your the hall of Famer, right? You're in the hall of fame. Yeah. If I'm in the hall of fame, you gave back nail say I didn't give it to him. He earned it brain. Did you guess QBR last year? He was really good last. Even he's been really awful. Here's the thing about QBR is he was he the fourth bit quarterback. Did anybody thinking any point in time? He was the fourth breath quarterback last year. F- I watched him play Jared Goff. Then I watch. He did Rogers go look it up. Go look it up. Go look into numbers and tell me he didn't outplay. And then I watched him play Alex Smith when he was playing for Andy Reid, and they were flying high, and he came to my restaurant, and he got a good old hot ale at my restaurant understand your restaurant because I thought you didn't serve people who lost gel son, you're serving L. Hot ale. You must have been bordering on bankruptcy. Oh, they're wondering had winner. Schiff my business jail, Tennessee, everybody can get your restaurant except you serve. No cowboy fan, boys. They came last night hot ails buffet right off the grill. Really the titans came in. We had a good old time it clothes eight trust me on this. No cowboy fan came to Europe. Why not it you? It just you don't like. They don't like, you know, I had a slow burn. With would look. Topped it on that cherry head that knife knife cross on that by janey. Flap. Your mama real void that restaurant through. Through. Coming off of vice. We're gonna talk about them later chipping. We are not done here. It is election day. Are we going to get a four more years of Tom Brady? Tom Brady is coming off a big win Sunday night against the Packers. He's already looking towards another matchup against Aaron Rodgers. The patriots won't play Green Bay again until twenty twenty two when Brady will be forty five years old. But he says he'll be in that game Brady told Peter King, quote, I'd like to go forty five. I know I said that one hundred times and no one believes me. But I mean, I feel good. I could go play another game tomorrow. I know what to do. It's fun. What else would you rather do than run out in front of seventy thousand people and throw a football, Shannon? Do you think it will happen? No, I don't. And what would you rather do product spend time, but that's another here another. No. And you know, what I find it very ironic that a team in a guy this one game at a time. We're on Cincinnati. We don't get too far. Hey, we play one game at a time. Not only looking pay the rest of this season. He's looking past twenty nineteen twenty twenty two. Twenty one. So now, we're four years into the future for team for a guy that pride themselves on the straight and narrow we focused on tomorrow. We're focused on the next opponent. Okay. If nobody believe you who cares. Nobody believes that you were going to be the greatest that didn't stop you. So who are you trying to it sounds like Tom Brady is trying to convince a lot of other people other than self? Because once I said, I was going to do what I was gonna do. Believe me. I know what I was gonna do. Okay. Tom. If you believe it, why are you constantly got throw that up? I'm playing I'm forty five. I'm planning about forty five you're trying to subtle message. Check. Would you try to let that message resume which owner because he'd got you back? Nobody. Yeah. You should be able to play because they can't punish you once could. But I still do not believe Tom Brady is going to be played until forty five is not going to happen skip. But he's trying to convince someone and it's not, and it's okay, Dan, John only played twice in the regular season in their career. They played sixteen years would they play seventeen play one more year to John. But then only played twice Bill. The play twice. The reason why we see this the the up with Peyton and Brady so much. They used to be in the same division before the reconfigured the division if so then they're in the AFC. So one of those teams go to the other team to keep advancing these car. Inference the only gonna come around once once before years so improbable in this the second time. So this is the second time in twenty fourteen they played a game in twenty eighteen they'll play a game every four years. That's the way it goes right now. But no, he's not playing and I wish you stop talking about g whereabout who worry about tuna see. Segel better legal. You so Malcolm Butler given about touchdown. I didn't seem any he gave up both of them. I saw too. But I say go check needed. I needed four code relative. They skill this. Why didn't play? What he had played. They would want gave up more than. Sorry. So of all the topics we do on this show this one eats. It you more than any because it just keeps coming back and coming back and coming back, and I keep trying to tell you there's one man and only one man in sports, I don't bet against in. It's this man. And I know he doesn't really act the part of a franchise quarterback, and he can be a little cliche in a little lame and a little corny. And yet this has been his consistent opinion every time. He's asked about it and Peter King asked him once again about it after the game. He keeps saying I tried to tell everyone I'm going to play until I'm forty five whether you like it or not that's basically what he's saying. And when we first started this show, you said you would give him that first year, and then this year, and you thought this would be his last year. And now you've conceded he'll play one more year next year in the next year. You're going to have to consi- the neck waiting in the next year. You concede one way over over. He has discovered. Ply ability and unless he I'm knocking on wood unless he suffers a career threatening or career ending injury. You're going to have to eat all those words because he'll play until he's forty five because he he seems possessed the play until he's forty five a lot of guys and I bet against the Super Bowl. So don't pretend like you doing you. See what happened at beatdown? You saw what happy down or do you want to thirty three? Is that a beatdown down? He threw the most beautiful hail Mary. I think I've ever seen in hit his six foot six inch receive in the hands is that what? That was going to tie the game and be hound. Hound who who throw the prettiest hail man all of them. All well, he does them short of the end zone. Dude. Back and catch him in back into the end zone. He's trying to do. He's trying to convince coach Bill check the code. I'm going to be playing an elite level, and I would really appreciate it. If you let me go out on my own terms, coach Belichick tried to prevent that from happening. A couple of years last year. It didn't happen. Coach Bela checks, Mr. craft now, I told you I wanted Trey rob gronkowski. And we could have probably got a second round pick. But you didn't listen to me. He said he was going to retire. Tom came up to your dad, coach Belichick wants to trade, my friend and grown, and I would possibly retire. If that would happen now, you'll be going next year. You know that I know that everybody knows that he might be gone this year. They can't they can't trae tonight. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if he's going to be available. Tom Brady is not playing until the year twenty twenty two skip you need to in. He needs to get that out of his head is not going to happen. I can't get it out of his head because that's his head and it somehow got hold on outta love. How father time can't shave Tom Brady down? But oh, LeBron James Tom father time right down. The cone is because we saw on the other night kind of pathetic off backed about maybe shouldn't play back to back more. I don't know. He looked little outta gas to me twenty eight. So can I interest you in twenty eight sixteen interest you that he scored eighteen with six assists and two rebound. Okay. On a back to back. Okay. So I'm sorry skip. So now, he's averaging twenty seven eight seven. Okay. But he's what what is he thirty three thirty three thirty December thirty, you know, his radius forty one and it's August third because that's Ernest birthday. I never forget that one. And my guy didn't miss me. Nope. Although he looks like he started by him. Talking about Tom Brady discovery had this cover so on Instagram, his wine and cigars saying Brian cut that stuff out. I don't really concern us what people post with don't. How you look at it. Thank you. I don't see anybody posted anything about a messy house. I don't see anybody post anything about a broken down car about got have left a body. But you know, that's not realistic shake you come to say shot. How right now. Now, I did get out of bed, and I didn't make the bed. You know, normally the dog sometimes. But if you go everywhere else, everything is tuck knife, come to my house, and it is spotless. And I have nothing to do with it. I have to win it. All right. You got me on that one. So here's the point. I love this quote. The Ginny read from Tom Brady because this is this sums up. What else would you rather do than run out in front of seventy thousand people and throw a football? That's that's the essence of time fulltime. He's saying you gotta be dad and mum. She said I want you told me you play eight more years. That's what you told me when we met. So here we are ten years Lebanese later you still trying to play. So you try to get fourteen. So you're the first time ever he actually took vacations in the off season. He actually went to where was he in Italy where he was I couldn't keep get confused with LeBron was in Italy, Germany China. Next up. I can't keep them straight. Tom Brady in Monaco. I dunno. I told you I just get mixed up. But the quiz he cutter. That's what he what he was in yet. He spent more quality time with his kids and his wife, and again, they're just gonna have to be patient for four more. Maybe paying more years. You know, what I notice if always the people that's not being in the patient position that ask the person that is in that position to be patient and just bear. With me, I've been with you for thirteen. So what have we seen from forty one year old Tom Brady, so far he received the outgunned patch with the thing about this average? Let me tell you what average is one hundred eighty two yards passing in the fourth quarter against Patrick Mahomes to hold off Kansas City, forty three to forty a Kansas City that scored thirty one second half points and Brady outgun that kid or not good. He right back in his place schooled in this. And then what has stop? What happens you told me too? Big mistake. Life made too big mistake last night. But we'll bring that we'll have to do with this the greatest quarterback talking about you know, we just saw Sunday. He become by Joe Montana era. So Tom Brady has his team sitting at seven and two which is only a game behind the team. He already beat that good behind. That's still pretty great for forty one. Right. You see erosion I don't see any arose. So we sixty seven sixty eight so he didn't have Julian Edelman for the first four games. And by the way, Julian element has lost some burst after his ACL year when he was out. He doesn't look the same to me, then he's got Josh Gordon with the piano on his back as his primary Seaver and gripe gone is gone. And he's got a kick returner as his primary running back what you like that. And the guy that throw to the past that broke the camel's back with Rome by college quarterback that blaze receiver. You don't wanna mention that camel's back was broken by Brady to Josh Gordon? That's what what's Campbell's the turn. Winter. They gotta turn over the end up going to pan the police liquor pan. Threw it to element Handelman through it. The James white in the ended up getting down to stop playing. You know that I know that but he's not played a twenty twenty two Neth not happening. I got Brady going to eight and two at Tennessee. Maybe he can be Tennessee. Because my team can't we talking about not playing at twenty see Tom Brady losing only one more game down the stretch, which would get into thirteen three. And I don't know. Well, I like the chances getting back to yet another Super Bowl. Could it be possible? Tom Brady's on his way to nine Super Bowl if they possibly the man on the moon. Oh, so eight so eight men on the moon before this one. But now the anything. Okay. Well, this'll be the nine, okay. How about possibly likely? No, the two entirely, different leans. So. The Tom Brady I see is actually he's running with the ball. He's courting. He is he's trying to an encoder back sneaky have you ever seen a better quarterback? Sneaker Tom Brady. I haven't I'm sorry. He's the best not not a stent kill its biggest. Quarterbacks of all seem throw a block on Sunday block block. He's the only guy running down, the pier hair. The guy that have such football IQ high. When I don't know. What's legal was not legal? I don't know who to cut. Did you say that? All shucks, gee whiz. This is how he blows off the media's like you. Save on his I hit a telling defenders when Tom Brady is out there. That's your opportunity to unload on him. He's a blocking position you can decapitating y'all or I don't wanna hit Tom. I can't wait 'til thanksgiving. When he posts his annual Instagram picture, he'll be in the leaves in the backyard jump up Joe. About time corny. Corn jolly Judy. Thank you all Tom's Jimmy, you know, what? You're gonna have to deal with corny Tom for four more. I got one MO top or more tops. I know you hate that phrase. Four more years, scary one tops. I got one more night. All right. I got to I got one pointing and it's a wash bad dreams about Tom Brady. I'm. I mean, why are you? Why are you? Why would you post on jersey? Did you see you follow me on Instagram? Somebody say. Posted it undisputed. Concerned about you. I was worried how many how many of us have so far. I don't know. But they called it got you're gonna fifty one fifty really. I thought that was pretty clever and true. Why would you two different look at you? And look at me over our chilly. Nice going. What did you post? I don't. All you. I don't care which I don't know. I have no idea a necessary. I'm just saying I posted what you need to know is the jersey in the trash. Yes. We left it in the trash with my hat to. We are going to go back to the cavalry. And I still got my white jersey the white number four wheel. The Cowboys have dropped to three and five after their loss to the titans last night. A lot of focus has turned to the future of Jason Garrett last night. Jerry Jones was asked if he would consider firing garic for that of the season and said, no. But he added quote, I think each individual player coach and front office person is going to have to be better, including me, Shannon, will Jerry fire Jason Garrett. No. And he says he doesn't he doesn't make any doesn't see any changes during the season way Phillips online one. But here here's the thing. James nothing to Jason Garrett because why it would be an indictment on Jerry Jones. Nobody in the coaching profession. Nobody around football believe that Jason garrison jar the inequality football team of than standing on the sideline and occasionally clapping everybody that Govan comb, Jerry Jones. This is Jerry didn't get us. John pain this Jared. Joan doesn't get a Sean McVay. He wants to do. Boy, he wants somebody put that gives to stand there and says, you know, what I'm the coach of America's team on the head football coach. Although I don't have any say on the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Everybody knows Jerry Jones running this team. Jerry Jones, actually believe he coaches team. But he won't because then the elves will be on his resume Z right now though ails on someone else's resume. And if he were to fire who's gonna put in tars got Lenihan got Lenihan, low seventeen to twenty games. Do we know how to do? We knew do we know don't we know how ended in Detroit for rod Marinella. So if you five at least. I got a name. But go ahead. I'll wait until it's my turn turn you so flu at some point in time. Jerry is going to have to look you always go back to twenty sixteen and talk about that frisk QBR that was an outline season. You had the perfect storm. You had an offensive line playing at the APEC you had rookie running back running all cylinders and you had a quarterback that played. I don't believe you'll ever play told you this skip what you automatically assume that he was just going to get better from that point. I say what if this is the best that will ever see that? He was really good last year. But go ahead. Really good miss the playoffs. I just told you they lost Zeke for six games and Sean Lee for six games. And by the way, Sean Lee, I think is about done after last night because he's got a fatally defective ham won't stay. I know. I know I know two notions. I know no, Sean Marino. And no sh. Charlie about the Cowboys is no strongly. Will you stop fair? That's it. Due to Dutch men, and he's been a little bit of the surprise attack. The dutch. The Dutch could ahead cab. Really really, oh Ridley how not DJ more that you want more more more. I'll take more more more courtroom Sutton. He right down there from him. Get a close up look at him. But not what you'll stop. This is this is the a hope you frame took a picture of that twenty sixteen season. And guess what? Jerry until you step back. Look at this. You got to owners both on worth a lot of money. You look at the way. Mr. crab does business. You look at Jerry Jones, Mr. Kraft's perfectly fire because when you own that podium podium, the first Sunday in February and on commission today has you Detroit. Who cares? He has the trophy to miss the crap Burs J J by the dream, come close. I mean, he won't buy. I'm sure they got him dead. And they got new place in Frisco right in nuclear Prisco. They got them all lined up a mini moon for to get another one. You finished. So here's what I'm going to remind you of if Jerry Jones cut Dez Bryant, then he could potentially fire Jason Garrett during this football season because I was shocked. He finally saw the light and said, no more Dez, and he cut the cord to a young man that he considered like a son. Yeah. He obviously treats Jason Garrett like one of the family, and if it gets from bad if bad get stores, and I think it's going in this direction worst last night. We talked about what's coming. So you go at Philly Atlanta, Washington on thanksgiving. New Orleans comes to Jerry world x and then Philadelphia comes back and you play them at Gerry world. If you lose one two three four five straight games, what your record three and ten I think the public outcry would be so severe that Steven Jones would sit down with a man that he calls Jerry calls. Always. When he does that. But he calls him, Jerry. And he would say, Jerry, we gotta come to grips with this. That's got to be the end of this. We gotta do something to right the ship. And at least show people that we're trying to do something to go in a new direction. And I believe that Chris Rashard is going to be a head coach in this league. Because he is a young stud of a coach obviously with legion of boom for a long time in Seattle. You have elevate him. But skip if they were to Jason that's an indictment on him. Because everybody knows he's coaching team. Well, Jerry, Jason Garrett is not in charge of the final fifty three. You don't you think Dez Bryant was an indictment of Jared because Jerry defended Dez like crazy in finally he just had to say, I give up. I eat crow swallow my pride, and he's gone everybody. Even the former position code the new position coach, I think there had to be like seven eight guys that got Jerry because I don't know Jay makes this decision by himself. I believe Stephen Jones will McClay because he's the all these guys become very outspoken. After the release in like, he couldn't be press coverage. He couldn't run anymore. We can't live in the jump ball the back shoulder world anymore. Everybody's started saying these things that I think it was accumulation because they were just left up Jerry is hard. Because like you said he committed to him. He believed him after that twenty fourteen even plea. I got it. What do I say about Jason Garrett? He is coach clap because best thing he does his greatest strength is clapping win. Loser. Draw fumbles interceptions. He just stands over. What if we allow him to do? Well, okay. You can make that case. But the point is they are mired in mediocrity with Jason Garrett. If I look back at the record at seventy and fifty eight overall, but in the time that he wasn't just the interim coach sixty five and fifty five benefited greatly from the twelve and four and two thousand fourteen in the thirteen in three thanks to Dak Zeke and twenty sixteen. So you got those to the boost you above five hundred. But once upon a time, Jerry Jones said five hundred coaches could coach his team that was. Back when it was Dion and Charles Haley and Troy an image. Michael five hundred coaches will right now Jason Garrett is the face of five hundred as in. That's how many you're gonna win that you're winning percentages. You're gonna win about half your games, you're gonna win some and you're gonna lose somewhat Jason Garrett in at some point. Jerry has to snap out of it the way he did about desk. Bryant and say, I gotta give in and give up and go in a new direction give in order for you to get. I'm telling you, the today's coaches if they have any backbone or they have any gumption or they want to be thought of as serious, they got to have some control, Sean Payton, not paying reported that at some point, and maybe he could have gone back. But you look at Cal Shanahan you can add account Shanahan, but I'm telling you cow Shanahan's, Mike Shanahan might say. Boy, you better have some control of your fate apps. You have some control of the final fifty or something you can have Charlotte bait, but they young guys know you better have some. Faye instead of feedback when I'm a head coaching fail. And they feed you player that might not pit your system. Yeah. Jerry is not going to get a coach culture that ill a less. He's willing to Accu with some of that controls give you could be right about that. But I still say he is capable fully capable at three and ten of firing Jason Garrett just to give the public some something like a head on the planet. But to give them thank you. Why would I do that? And I can still charge twelve there's still going by twelve or still they're still don't come in pay a hundred and fifty dollars a ticket or it's still a member of paraphernalia. What's the incentive? I keep telling you if I'm thinking about it. I gotta tell you last night will not the bottom out of cowboy nation because that was bad because you're coming off a bye in your teen came out uninspired, especially on the defensive side. They were not ready to play on defense in some of that has to fall at the doorstep of the head coach right in on offense. There. Was no real urgency. They come out SIS, boom bang, and they go down when they can't catch. Even the final drives when back through the ball out of the end zone. I'm not do y'all know y'all down fourteen. Why are you taking so loan? That was the fitting anyway nightmare night. We met talk about him in the ball out of the end zone and not even given. Gotcha. Let's give this thing is is that you get just don't get it. Jared J is into this thing. And he's like one this way before I can do it again, but give you time to change, and it's not the same anymore. The way you run a ship. You can't run a ship the same way. So Jason Garretson is eight year in his playoff record is one and two they made it twice. And obviously they won the one game. You could argue. They should've won the desk. Catch game limited ownership understands no-shows. Guess what doesn't happen? They still come even when the Cowboys were losing they feel showed up. So Jerry Jones. He always fans any. News is good news. Bad news. Good news. So Jay doesn't care as long as they show up. See Jerry like the Papa John's thing he didn't wanna get involved with that because somebody might not about pizza. Okay. These days still showed up to the game. They still paying twelve bucks for beer and fourteen dollars. So what if Gary? Gary, I'm gonna show up. Now Redskin fans than Saint fans than eagles fans because they're going to be a whole lot of free seats out there. You can just wear one one come all whether they Cowboys fan sitting in them saints fans eagle phase of bus in that see somebody paid more it Jerry Jones about that dollar dollar dollar Bill y'all about a win though because it was about wind skip Bayless, either never fired. I don't care what Jimmy see Jimmy could've busting my cop. Jimmy Steele coaching team. Because I'm having about six bowls. Fact at three and ten it'll get so bad Jerry can't show his face in Dallas restaurants. And then he's going to have to do something close to restaurants. They give you know. They they love cowboy nobody how bad it gives. They feel love them. Trust me. I lived there for a long time. They can turn on it. And they can hate just as hard as they love and they will turn today. So are you saying I'm not alone in the Cowboys? Well, they are turning after the performance they're joining that was I'm going to quote, Jerry, one more time, candidly, I did not see that coming. I nobody in cowboy nation. Saw that come Jason. I mean skip you come out by you come up with by. And this this. Before she got on that. That's Monday night. Brad time aren't gonna leave it for now. We will go back to the Cowboys about next. Lebron take a shot at Michael Jordan. Gotta here. Bronze other jobs is as executive producer of the Showtime series shut up and dribble. The next episode air Saturday, and we'll focus on Michael Jordan's past avoiding social issues, Jordan, famously declined to get involved in a heated North Carolina Senate race in nineteen ninety and reportedly under the famous quote Republicans buy shoes too, so Shannon. What is your reaction here in this? Lebron LeBron beam politically active is very important to him. There's an event that happened that changed. I think the way he thinking he mentioned it. It was the death of Trayvon Martin. You see LeBron James has two young sons that we're going to be the age of Trayvon Martin. And you're going to have to have a conversation. So when you can see something happening to you assure you, Trayvon mountain parents never thought they would get that phone call you see that event impacted LeBron there's an event that happened when Johm with clearing. It was the Rodney King situation. Skip see Michael could never see himself in the position that Rodney King found himself in. So if hard if you can't see yourself in that position to empathize with someone in that position. We can empathize with someone having Kansas give because we can see all that can happen to us or Michael had children. He had two sons, but go ahead. But he couldn't see Michael Jordan's key is, and that's the thing that might be your kid, but especially in to be fair. Now, if you've given five million dollars to the Smithsonian the national museum of African American he gave two million dollars to stop the violence police, and he just don't like another two million for the hurricane that felt affected his hometown Wilmington. I think he from is North Carolina. So he's become more attentive to social issues, but the athletes today are differ than the athletes say when Michael because not to say not because you saw the row cels in the corinn's and the Jim Brown's they took a different stance. But that was the sixties the eighties. Michael is trying to build a brand. And he was in. He felt that I got a please everybody called if one person don't like something that said that's a potential buyer. Lebron taking the different approach. He's saying look what I see going on in society. You're someone decides not to buy shoes. If someone tries not to buy paraphernalia that I endorse a product that I north or they refuse to come to a game because of something that I say I'm speaking out against wrongdoing justices. That's the so be that wasn't where Michael was say. I'm not gonna beat Michael up for it. Because when you do something like this has got to be in you, you can't pull around with you can't have step. And like I'm just doing everybody else is doing it because you'll get expelled get exposed as a fraud. And nobody wants to be that. So he didn't take a stance. He didn't talk about issues during those times. Yeah. Okay. Fine. That wasn't where he was. I don't think it's ever too late to do the right thing. And if you see some of the things that you've done over the last two to three years it shows that things are starting to resonate more with him. He feels a lot more comfortable with where he is. Now. And he can do that. But I'm a little surprised that LeBron because his supposed to be about, athletes and social activism, not avenue leave that didn't didn't become socially active. So I am a little surprise that. Lebron? Michael, obviously cream didn't take the social activism anything like that. So I'm a little surprised that aspect but from LeBron did have to sign on. He's reduced. Absolutely. All right. So but things and today it I think is impacting the athlete today differently than it did the guys in in Michael's era. Yeah. So point number one, as you know, I've always lauded and applauded LeBron James when it came to being such a powerful social Justice spokesman when he speaks or tweets or posts, I listen I absorbed because he's always informed. And he is always piercingly on point. He is the best. He's right up there in that pantheon of Kareem Muhammed Ali he is risen into those ranks in with Michael Jordan. I have never ever come close to trying to defend him because he wanted no part. Of speaking out number one or taking action number two in when I covered him in Chicago back in the late nineties, especially in nineteen ninety eight which was last year. I asked him about this was he uncomfortable. Not getting know why why not? And he said he just didn't feel qualified enough to speak out because he was so obsessed with basketball and trust me. He was upset especially through that. Final bulls run in nineteen ninety eight to go six and on the files another MVP. And he said, I'm just not knowledgeable enough to speak credibly about these issues because the truth was he didn't tell me. But I just don't think he cared. I don't think he followed politics any any sort of racial issue. He just didn't get delve into it. He didn't follow it skip. If it wasn't like something like the Rodney King is not like it is not what you see is. Something happens. Somebody got it on cell phone video camera. So it wasn't. You wouldn't have the reach that. We have not right. Was he? Fully aware of how valuable his shoe brand is and was at that. You better believe he was and was he gonna say anything that might remotely threaten it? No. It was not. So he scrupulously avoided all of that. He just wanted. No part of it. And again, I'm not I didn't love it. But I did never condemn it. Don't think you're condemning it either because that's pretty much who he was or wasn't right skill. You remember when that shoe came out Israel cargo kids were dying for that shoot? Keep kids getting killed, and they wanna be Michael to speak, and he didn't say anything and like. Okay. Maybe he should've said something like you say it's give if that's not your space. You don't occupy someone else's face? That's not where you are. This seems to be LeBron this lebrons. Wheelhouse. Feels very comfortable in Michael in nineteen ninety eight was fully aware. He was the greatest athlete in the world that with that came a lot of power. So he didn't want to speak out of turn where he spoke. He sent the wrong message because he just wasn't aware enough to speak. But no matter what skip no matter what the issue is. If you say something, you're going to upset someone, you know Tigers been one of those guys aboard that one because you know skill. I don't care what the issue is. I mean, you could say, well, you know, what you shouldn't kill elephant. Well, they're the hunter. That says I want to be able to hunt. I'm paying three hundred thousand dollars to go shoot this animal. Okay. I might not agree with it. But they're going to be some people that do agree with it. So you can't please everybody. No matter what the issue or know how harmless. You think the issues well abroad is basically come to the realization. I'm LeBron James who I am. Everybody's not gonna like me. No matter what I say. But I think ninety five percent do maybe I'm wrong a little misguided assure you skip if it was ninety five at one point the stance. He's taken out since President Trump is elected official of some of the things that he's seen. I'm sure I'm sure that probably come down because there are some people don't go there for people that like President Trump, don't like president don't light lebrons, speaking out because remember the term the title of this docu series shut up dribble came from came from somewhere that like Trump all of a sudden, they don't like LeBron. And he understands that you can't please everybody. But these issues like I said that Trayvon Martin knowing that you have not I have my son is going to have a birthday and a couple of in a couple of weeks. He's going to be twenty six and I've had the conversation with my son if they ever. Stop. You do what they Al? I said, I can't get another son. I can get more money 'cause I'll get the best attorney dot possibly can. It's not worth it. Because he has all the party you'd call your dad and you dad going to be on a plane. I'm coming. So let's let's just be smart about this thing. Okay. So obviously off the court as a social Justice warrior, LeBron is far greater than Michael. To me on the court Michael is far greater than LeBron. But there is competition between the two, and I do believe LeBron knew full well that he's signing off on this. The second of the three documentaries, and it is anti Jorde, and it would be at him taking the shot Jordan for his non. Yup. Or leave so active expose or put it in perspective it in its place. Okay. So let slip it around question for you. Yes. What if Michael Jordan was the executive producer of a documentary on LeBron's meltdown in the twenty eleven finals, let's tear it all apart. Let's get to the guts of at the bottom of what happened to LeBron James in the twenty eleven finals with that be seen as a shot at by Michael at LeBron. Yeah. Fair we think about this. When when Michael Michael is really never gone out of his way to heap praise on the brine, he's constantly said that Kobe, and we always in every time. Michael San something when you deal when you're dealing with someone like Michael skip in comes the basketball. We parse everything he says is just like when Jack Nicklaus says something about golf reports everything that he says he's talking. So anytime he says something will Kobe has five five is more than whatever we take that. That's my shot at Brian or Kobe this. So that's just the way it is. And maybe they're going back and forth. And look when you get to that level competitive, you're very very competitive. You know, you're you're, you know, the pecking order, you know, how you proceed, and you know, how I can assure you look they've gone over this thing with a fine tooth comb. Lebron knows how this is going to come out that he's taken shot because this about athletes and social activism, not athletes that didn't participate. Now, the ultimate shot would be if LeBron were quoted in the entry has taken a shot at Mike for his lack of participation or the mere fact. That everybody knows. That follows my giorno that he didn't take chance. So this this isn't like revealing all nudist, right? Right. And so I think LeBron knows how this is going to come come off. And I'm sure some people won't be excited about it. But some people like, well, he didn't lie because you know, the thing is Now, Dan when I grow grew up people telling the truth millennials, not call the Hayden. Would I grew up? My grandfather true, then ninety tell the truth. They call it Haiti. Zola Brian older Brian eight no might or trolling which I'm like, what if you tell the truth is that trolling. That's dad. We try to you know, try to get up. What do you do? I don't know. I used to go fishing. Trolling motors. You get up into lahar region. Great fishermen. I did not know that Johnny really I caught a big a hole in the water. True story. Legiti still I'm gonna Oklahoma. Oh, yeah. Man. Okay. The middle ice fishing. That's my thing. Judy knew anything. This. You start working out down. If you quit, you quit quit. Heck? Yup. On because I'm in charge here. The blame for the Cowboys loss last night. Dangelo hall will answer that question, and you need to be quit working tell the truth. The cowboys. They dropped to three and five with their loss. Last night. We are joined by f s one NFL analyst Dangelo how we're happy to have you. Although I'm not so sure we're gonna like your take take away from this one. To be. Speaking as a Redskin now or falcon or which every non by analyst. What? Cow bias give is a guy who don't like the Cowboys. So you just disqualified everywhere. Take away the truth is the truth. And I don't know what's going on with us. They have a great defense defense didn't show up to play. They get some. I maternal Zach the first one they got that. Oh, yeah. Early. If felt like they had a chance to disrupt mariota for some reason. I just think the energy wasn't there for Dallas. Only agree coming off a bye week. You would like your team to be a little bit more propellant? Yeah. But for some reason Dallas just didn't seem like, I don't know. It didn't seem like they they knew that they were still any in the race for the NFC. Sincerely, urgency last night. I know I saw I saw known at fourteen. That's that's chasing the eagles as chasing the risking is just disclose the bunch of injuries. So I feel like they're completely out of it at this point on. They're completely out of this division. I don't because office is so bad. Skip offense was already should be eagled. And so should be. We'll be Dallas head of chance not to change the that they could continue to get better. But to put that kind of display on and I don't know who to point the finger it I don't know if his dad because he did he did make. Makes mistakes that that you don't that. You don't like seeing him like to force that ball to Amari Cooper. We're Indus was beyond horrendous. Yeah. But you know, what I saw early in the game has showed me that this was going to happen tomorrow random little en route and came back out. That was one of them to hold time. He was if you saw Alan hers in the back in the end zone. Ran across almost jumping up and down doing jumping jacks. And I bet he was only one wasn't celebrating when Amar court their balls. And so I kinda was like hottest might not be a good thing. Because if back stars only look at Amari Cooper ESI was doing with Dez Bryant. Yep. It messes up fell right back them up. So that was a horrible interception. But for the most part, I didn't think that play to too bad. I think he gave you a chance to win. No fell short was the defense because this defense is a top. Thank defense taper top d realizing came in number one in scoring. I didn't know that. Okay. Well, it's so. Eight to a tendency tight that it was right thirtieth score thirty that bad offensively. Tennessee Tennessee's bad offense band. You see what you're saying? You said down came into number one in scoring defense started read the paper. See what happens when you look at a team that's thirtieth in scoring. We're number one in scored their challenge scoring the football. We don't give up a whole lot of points. Skip. Normally what happens you normally with fire codes coat, especially if he's struggled going into the bye you come out by and you lay an egg like that. That's normally a fiber. Because they only today the owner would say, yeah. You lost it, whatever. Whatever method. You're giving them. Yeah. Not respond. They're not responding anymore. The thing is in your quarterback. If your quarterback is playing wail you can overcome turnovers if your quarterback playing poorly any turns all over you not coming that give he lost a lot of companies laws confident from he's not the same guy the cocky guy, his rookie season that we see. Now, he sees the. The great quarterbacks field rush. He seeing the rush. And so and he's clutch clutch. I mean, he's holding that ball holding that ball and is giving those guys the next to get to it. He got let it go. He's got to trust it. If you take hits if it's not there to check the ball down. Would you say at the end of the half ten plays seventy three yards? No huddle up dental Dak just rocking in fire. Right. No, no, second guessing. No check off at the line. Don't he checks out every other play? And it's like, you're second guessing yourself and every time he checks out of a play. It goes nowhere seriously for the check out of a good place to a great play. He's checking out of a bad player to a worth that is. So I'm gonna say it again, I can no longer defend this football team. This football team is exactly what its record says. It is. It's a bad three in five football team. It shows you its potential early in that. Game. Because what is tearing my guts out today is that could have been twenty one to nothing because they were in position to score twenty one early points by the middle of the first quarter. It could have been twenty one to nothing because they had first and ten at the Tennessee Twenty-three Dak misses a fade route through it like five yards out of bounce to marring. And they missed the field goal. I think my kickers finally gone south mentally. So that's another issue, then they get first and ten at the Tennessee fifteen and they go cash it on the little option route you're talking about a little in and out route. So that seven nothing and then they get first and goal at the four. And this is where Dak lost me completely. This is where I saw dangerous regression because to your point you have landed Amari Cooper, you're coming out of the by. I know you don't know him that. Well, but you throw it off your back foot. He dropped back with with that gun shy body language where where he's just seen rush rush. Right. And he's feeling and he seemed ghosts. And he throws it off his back foot. In the direction of Amari Cooper, like he seventy tall. He's six one. And he is way double covered by a Kevin buyer. Who was he wouldn't just Pro Bowl last year. He was first team. All pro. There are two titans on your new receiver. Well, in that the point is that what you wanted does that not mean that they're three ago savers is there somebody is called Bazeley opened somewhere is he's got to be them not to cut you off. But when he called play in the huddle, he says, I'm throwing his Baltimore. He just knew his head. Right. And then insult to injury. And I'm gonna give Kevin buyer credit for this. He catches it. Must already premeditated. But he runs all the way to the start. And he does the te'o San Francisco on the star of the stadium. What? He rubbed their noses in it and it stood up. They stood up after that. Because the cowboy defense did not and back to your point about Marcus mariota. I still don't think he's any good. Does it just me? He looks to me like a wide receiver without much an arm trying to play quarterback like masquerading as a quarterback because it's a slow delivery in the ball comes out like he pushes the ball like a nerve football. That's what it looks like in his Nerf footballs would leave his hand. And I'd be saying I'm sitting in my couch saying that's intercepted. No somebody's wide open catching they go. Eleven for fourteen on third down eleven for four hours. That's good. At defense is down as Dallas is the twenty ninth ranked team on third. They can't get off the field. And that means you just rolled your helmets out on the field where the Dallas Cowboys lay down for us. Right. See will not lay down because remember they came in third best scoring defense. So they're pretty good on the migration, I think high ever hit. Football. Jason Garrity talk about should be fired. I mean, I like Jason gay personally. Do I what this point? If those guys can't get up for this type of game on a Monday night stage off of a by. I mean, you have everything in front of you in your division, especially hearing was going on in Washington with with their injuries. If that doesn't get you motivated to give your best effort. I don't know. What will remember there's three and at home now, they're three and one with trust me on this. I've been rooting for this team for all nineteen sixty one that was devastating in demoralizing and disillusioning and finally disgusting losses. I can ever remember under the circumstances of by week the division is begging for you to go. Take a hold of it or at least challenge eagles. And you do that you laid that Ed. It's so shocking. I'm gonna repeat what Jerry Jones said he just looked like deer in headlights after the game in the lock. Groom's said candidly, I didn't see that coming. Well, I'm still shocked by what maybe we should've seen it coming because think about it. You said the Tennessee titans. Are the third rank? Yeah. Okay. The Dallas Cowboys average Gordon about eighteen points the game. So while we apprised they only got fourteen against the Third Reich defense we keep talking about. Okay. The Cowboys defense. Yeah. We're surprised that Tennessee scored nine points against Jacksonville their their offense. They're scoring challenged sort of the Cowboys not a cowboy going challenge, and they're going to get the Third Reich defence, so okay? One defense showed up the other teams defense didn't one teams often showed up the other teams offense, didn't and guess what? That means twenty eight to exactly what that means. You're just really that means devastation in Dallas. That means you're back to the drawing board back to square one. What where do we what do we go? Zinc best player. You gotta you have to find a way to get him to unconventionally, which means you can't just. Ended off him. You tell me winning the line of scrolls. They weren't at all. That's what I'm saying. You have to spread him out put them in different positions. Like people think because a bigger star running back that he can't catch the ball. And do some of the things that lady on Bill and some of these other guys, I grew do he can absolutely do that. And I don't know why they aren't trying to find a way to get him the ball in different locations because when he's just in the backfield, and he's trying to go downhill running the ball. They just got too many guys hitting. Listen zero yard runs. He's had this year. I just sit back and just like bang my head against the wall. What are you doing because first and ten becomes second twelve within outdoor to ball? Okay. Great. All right. Well, sorry skip. I'm sorry. No. You're not. Case of new now told you of the year, I will be have all of ten ks them have them all back. I know Oakland smiling because they don't have a top ten pick. Yeah. All right. So there was also this last night. One titans player totally disrespected Cowboys nation. We will show you and discuss what happened. The first quarter of the Cowboys lost last night at Prescott threw an interception to tighten safety. Kevin buyer in the end zone and after the interception by ran to the Dallas star at midfield. These celebration was reminiscent of Terrel Owens back in two thousand when he was a forty Niner. After the game fired said, quote, I just ran to the star to celebrate. I was actually expecting somebody to kind of knock my head off here. Join once again by Dangelo halls Dangelo if you are a cowboy how would you felt about that celebration? I mean that would've been. Pissed. I was just talking about a little bit. I think we would have probably still been fighting right now. Because that to me is the ultimate sign of disrespect. I heard a Strahan talking about the sale phone cell phone wasn't that big a deal for me. You know, somebody pulled a cell phone out showboat on me who cares. But when you come stand on my star or stand on my logo into midfield and mock me and my team now that to me. Is going to raise a big problem. And and it's going to raise a problem moving forward any game. Like, I'm gonna try to hit you harder. Hopefully, everybody on my sideline feels the same way. I feel about that situation and they're going to play just a little bit harder. And what a little bit more of a chip on their shoulder. I don't think I I don't think I saw the even even in the guy's just standing up for the star itself and pushing them off the star. You saw baron journalists out there by self kinda pushing? And I'm thinking if I'm Tennessee, Barron. Jones ain't getting me out that star until I'm ready to get out this star. And so to me, that's the bigger problem. Why aren't more guys they're helping him you know in this situation? So to me, that's that's a little bit of cause for concern. But yeah, that totally would not have happened. If I was on that team. For me skip, you know, we had a thing called him out high salute. Yep. And anytime so I was a mild high. They sat John L. We just with the loop. I couldn't get mad and office looking about. Yeah. We allow that to happen. I'm looking at aired and myself air McAfee Ross Smith, we allow that to happen. So we don't want wanna go to celebrate gift with stopping you. Didn't want me to do when I got you in zone keeping out of the end zone. You didn't want me talking trash stopped me from catch passes Keating from Russian four hundred dollars. Cowboys could've prevented this that didn't happen. Throw it now. Once I get into my celebrates you leave me alone. They ain't got nothing to do with you. This is my moment. I've heard this moment viral Jones. So what I did. Side of this. My moment you could've prevented this moment for happened. People used to get up set at te'o won't deal the dance, but is on. I'm cool with dance and no sham. But I ain't I'm not cool with the disrespectful of good of going in the middle of the star. This is doing all of your greatness. This is what stands for the Dallas Cowboys. It's a star on the helmet. It's a star in the middle star. Dance if you can do that. But on the star, I would just I would've I would've liked to see more of. I would I would like to see more of a fight. I am with you that should have been a brawl at midfield, and it should still be going on. Yup. And I didn't know who Kevin buyer was until just before a playoff game that Tennessee played at New England you remember this last year, and he all he did was make first team all pro at safety last year. And I still didn't really know who he was intil said something about Tom Brady. He said we wanna turn Tom Brady into Blake Bortles memory said that before the playoff game at Foxboro and Tom Brady proceeded to throw for three thirty seven and three touchdowns, and it was thirty five to fourteen New England because that's the one guy you don't mess with where the game, right? That was a bad idea on his part. And we said it here on the show. And he I'm not sure Tom actually pointed him like he did that Pittsburgh kid that time that Smith kidding room. When he ran all the way the end zone gotten his face after he guaranteed victory at at Foxboro. But the point is. Is Kevin buyer has this in common with Terrel Owens? They both went to little schools in Tennessee, middle Tennessee for Kevin and Tennessee Chattanooga for Teo. They were both third round picks who were kind of unheralded who rose up to the top pretty quickly because terrible who's gifted like that was a steel to get him in the third round. And Kevin Byers was a the third round and he wants attention. And he's he's brazen. And he wants to it's on the map, and he put himself in the middle of the map. Because is there any more publicized point in the universe than that star logo on recognizable NFL logo is? It's the most recognizable. So he got away with not only that was the turning point. I think of the season for the Dallas Cowboys and my quarterback made the biggest mistake of his career with that overthrow in forced into double coverage in buyers. Got the presence. I if he'd already premeditated he runs all. The way to the star and goes te'o. And I wanted somebody to challenge you more than just a little Patty cake what Byron Jones it was funny that thirty one Byron Jones was the when he tried to push him off the star is George Teague thirty one not Terrel George got him. Pretty good. Things get this could have lit a fire up onto the Cowboys. But actually the fire put of Toledo. You know, what happened after that? I guarantee what happened at that? Kevin goes to the sideline these do solve they solve. I'm in the middle of ace star Bain doing nothing they solve. Let's go with K. And they do it alternately. That's what you wanna fight. We get to play sixty minutes between between the white land. We get to nap the Wilson. You don't wanna fight me. Then you wanna fight me. I went and stood on the star. Do. Thank you. Thank you talk. Because you come push me off the star. And I wouldn't be between the white lines. You can't do anything about it. Okay. But I tweeted this at that moment, you need to get mad and make him regret it because that's the only way to really put him back in his place. That should spark rage in the cowboy sideline. And instead, it expose them as this lifeless bunch over there. There was no urgency. There is no immediacy that they came out flat, and they stayed flat. When when he stood on their star in face acutally. He still no he spit on. Did y'all do nut? He actually did something else. Starve it? I don't wanna say public. You. You told me you told me to cowboy the undefeated at home Modell be read it up late. I thought so bagel coming. Wait a second. You thought they were going to be you picked them to gene, gene to get one. I would pick them next week against the eagles. It's over. No. Try to. I'm not trying to do anything. I can see. Finally gonna win a bad against me. They are not going to win the division. So they will not make the playoffs over over. And now, I can see it. It's over. How come in your house? If Dan you'll call the little room. I do have to do that. And USA this man, you do not. The coffee table and the Miller limit room. That's that's a that's coach clap. That's Jason Garrett. That's that's a product of that. That's just this. That's what this is you fumble. You don't interception. Okay. It's okay. That's that's the character of your football challenge, though. I'm glad you brought that up because I have to bring that up in the Jason Garrett. Not the most wounds challenge history. What did he think is skill? The do you can't look when do on the ground and a new land on top of you can't pull the ball out the catch down. I'm like, what are you doing commercial break, and he caught it phone down on his butt, but he had both feet in battles. Right. And I'm saying came the play after the play that I thought Dallas did get screwed on the one where the tight end fullback, you know. He caught it. And I thought that what's his name soccer catch caught it made a football play. He made a play. Did he not have control the two feet down as soon as you got the two feet down in head to catch. Vandereycken guarding? He got him. Good flying Dutchman right here at the time. He was flying on that one playing. I mean Janus mythmakers plays that news. If. Okay. And Marcus mariota. Look like Tom Brady despite all voter Li oh, no Charlene. He co in Tampa to you can't let me and get seem on you got all your new take off running. But what a throw that was. He drops it in between three Cowboys. They got three guys around hits him. Right ear Ovar, Marcus mariota Brady of that happen team over I've got gotta blame Marcus mariota. That was the game of his life. Never play. So I'm going to play off game against against Kansas City, new down twenty one three zero it what he do wrote and won that game. Tennessee d I don't even remember that. He went to New England. Oh chat down team at home. Twenty one three in valid Smith in Kansas City. We're trying to win Avella Smith and wash eighty this. Give you. Give you another yet. He got over his overnight watch. What I still like Washington women's division. Putting our ten cases. Why would I waste one way? If you believe have the courage conviction Mussa. I got a case do on Brady at Tennessee you want that you love the titans. You want it? You can have it in. Thank you. Got a case. Do he play into twenty twenty two. I'll take that. Done long waiting. That still year for that will for last night that took five years off my life. So I'm not sure I'll be around. We don't want to hear them. All right, ever, not tough. We are. We're still talking about it. But hey Angela. Thank you for being does Bryant no longer a cowboy it's probably about that. Now about to become Gebreel new favorite receiver. Brian will be in New Orleans today reportedly working out for the saints as pretty much confirmed. The report on Twitter last night and New Orleans is very thin receiver behind Michael Thomas, Shannon. You're surprised by this. I guess I shouldn't be skipped because we see only had four receivers active. I think on Sunday tagging junior. Who's this be gotta take the top off? He will he our? He added come back at at a later point this season. But was. This office is about position about timing. And that's not what is really known for now. Sean Payton and drew Brees would not be pressured into. Call plays throwing him football force feeding him to football. So that that's a good thing. But this doesn't make sense now, he's not the only receive with also they're branding bringing in Brandon Marshall who was recently released by the Seattle Seahawks. The also bring in a guy former Baltimore raven. But I'm surprised that day because I wouldn't think that this is a good fit or natural fit for him or the saints. But when you thin you kick the tires of a lot of cars, and hopefully one is drivable and you can get some use out of. So when I sit back and look at what the saints accomplished it shocking to me that they are so thin at receiver that it just goes Michael Thomas dominating the league. And then Kamera he's got Mike got seventy and then chimeras got fifty one catches. And then it drops all the way to Benjamin Watson at twenty six in that trae Kwan Smith is their third round pick rookie out of UCF is got twelve catches. So he hasn't been much of a factor. And that's that's the whole roster. And they are second in points scored in the NFL that not a tribute to drew believable. It's just unbelievable. So again to your point about fits how can Dez he still believes he's Dez Bryant, right? And trust me. Brandon Marshall will still believe he's Brandon Marshall in that Kamar ache. And I like almost a thousand yards when you're fifteen again, he doesn't think he's Dez Bryant would. So it would seem to me like he would be the best fit as a guy could just be a cog in the system. Like, he wouldn't bring a bunch of ego or no baggage or anything, but it's the president meets scale. Because if you look at these teams that these guys are coming for let's take Dez Bryant up as they struggle. And you bring this guy in Seattle is not like they gotta juggernaut offense, and they're just letting guys willy nilly go. And so you're going to bring him into the number two offense and all the football night. What it's not like Russell Wilson is still. He's an unbelievable quarterback. Now is the air. Roger the drew Brees. No. But he's a very good quarterback proven commodity. And like I said in Brandon get it done there. He didn't. Is a strikes me of the guy me 'cause I look at both of these guys bear similar. They're big body guys. They live in the back shoulder. Joe ball ram Brandon used to run routes. But he as he's gotten older injuries taken. It's toll and he doesn't really like he was did Dave hadn't run never been known as route runner in head and run really, well and very very long time. It just doesn't seem there for me. But you know, Sean Payton and drew Brees Mike in squeeze something out of these guy to me. I never underestimate what Sean Payton might do in the way of splash MU because he loves to say watch this NFL if you've rejected him I'll make something out of because he likes to put on a show in Dez brings star power and presence. I think it's ancient starpower because last year he just was shelve himself. But if what he won't allow you remember what happened in the opening night with with Asia Peterson who I he looked Sean Payton. Would happen. The next week stares daggers at him. He was in a narrow zone, and he was so it was go have days. Bryant tickets hill. But do this. I was open where you're gonna be Suzy's in drew Brees air. Hey. Hey, you gotta throw it to me. Drew will be like, well, you got to go over there and sit down. Yeah. Sean. Like, why are you had a game drew told me to come over here and talk to you about it? I want the ball. Nah, they gotta do something. 'cause they need one receiver. You can't go into game with four wide receivers. Yeah. 'cause the venture that's going to catch up with you you like to go into the game with five and have a guy that can play multiple position. So if one gets Nikki can go in he can fill in you will receive man, you ask tempting fate the truth. Is they go into games too wide receivers right with Michael Thomas and what? No seriously. I don't know how you do it. How do you get away with that? Well, you not go would that. Nobody's got mic and had to come out. I mean you again. So basically since they've been down again junior. They've been basically go full Y. Yeah. And they've become balanced for the first time a long time. And they're pretty fifty fifty run pass. That's the way they've been winning football games, and that will continue, but you still need some other threat at some point. The league is going to say this is how we stopped Michael Thomas three guys on him. Seriously. I'm not letting him beat me the guys that you mentioned those other guys they're going to have to show they're gonna have to show. Michael Thomas had have Marcus Peters and single coverage. Well, that's I'm doubling hill. Now, he not getting twelve all he might get twelve but you're gonna throw thirty eighty but you're not gonna throw fifteen passes at him. And he got catch twelve him. If he does he I need to new corners or Coronado safe because I'm cutting you guys if. Have him double the Nikkei twelve passes. And couldn't both of you. You're not going back with me. I still say Alvin Kamara is more wide receiver than running back, and he can run the football liberal. He can catch it. He can run precise quick cut routes where I'm just he looks like a wider. Now, you understand why Saint Nick spanker had yielding and he had a big head there. Henry and he had Drake all guys down there at the same time. This guy. He's. Got it. He got he got t t to attack a low of you know, what I think he made a big mistake. Letting Alvin go to Tennessee the big mistake. Here wonder Heisman? Remember who that Drake ran the kick out back again, Clemson. How you argue with Nick Sabin anything that he does. Molly gives up forty Aghia again that defense is back where you're supposed to be Tom. Well, here we go. Michigan's coming. To worry about Ohio State whereabout urban. I got a lot to worry. We better worry about Rutgers Indiana. Stop. A lot of work today about Alabama doesn't play the body brokers. Are we talking about rucker's, the Brassica ruckers and Ohio State are different? A really what about Georgia is yours. Good. Good. Okay. Okay. Okay. How about Arkansas Vanderbilt? Crushed arkansas. Our our stay ruckers. But we we talking about the Nebraska Nebraska, really, then with Gazan just lose to auto, the Wisconsin, just lose Ohio State was in danger of losing at Nebraska. Yeah. No. That was that. That was that. Twenty nine Alabama Jizhong pointed out LSU who thought Georgia interesting. TV? Us. I don't us pouty down one in the Fisher. Really? And the two thousand eighteen Heisman Trophy goes to university of Alabama's too. I was thinking collar Murray bosom doing. What about doing that too? But we got to go. I want to. Give all my to do is over. It's over. Oh, be a capital over the bottom line. This Alabama is playing the weakest contender schedule in the history of college football. It is it just have to see Jordan SEC championship game. We don't be all the rate team. We don't blew the nose off. All we all we can do is play who's on the schedule. That's still. Michigan pops up on the schedule and the semi-finalists her van shed Alabama ever. Thank you gotta play about it. We'll see gore. Nichols gore gift what to be healthy? He will be one hundred percent healthy. Can you imagine this man healthy give on that one way? Vialli played in the fourth quarter. I told you got a plastic wholesale. But they try to take the Heisman from play in the fourth quarter. Yeah. I'm done with your Bama atop say another thing that Prescott is he suddenly on the hot seat in Dallas. We'll discuss with rob Parker and what skipping. Prescott had to costly turnovers in last night's loss to the titans. The Cowboys are now three and five deck has thrown for three hundred yards in any game this season. Jerry Jones said last night's game won't impact the way he looks at Dak in the future and this morning Jerry told one zero five point three the fan quote Dak is the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. He's young. He's gonna get extended joined by rob Parker, and rob what's happening last night's game. Necked Dax huger it should. But it won't if you're an anti Cowboys fan in this country. You should be jumping for joy Jerry Jones has done it again. And Jerry Jones is going to extend the guy who's a game manager who's not a very good quarterback who work with smoke and mirrors that first year when they were thirteen and three and hasn't. Done anything. I mean, look at the rankings twenty seven total offense this year twenty six points twenty six points per game. I don't know how you can look at anything other than to think that Dak Prescott should have air went pinta, his jersey. He stakes thinks aches gif. I don't know. What else? Do you're doing can tell that line. Okay. He does give and they were supposed to Amaury Kupa was supposed to make things even better. Right. Okay. Touchdown too early whatever. But they went on ODI got fourteen points got skunked in the second half. This was a bad. This was the game that I think people thought would jump start them, right and get Amari Cooper, Durant home. They win this game. And out of the by coming out in a by field. Good and his dead. It wasn't done. It was a dud. And I get it. The defense gave him what eleven out of fourteen third-down. I get that skip. I'm not gonna poo pooing at like it didn't happen. So the. Wasn't up to par either. But still you gotta get more from this quarterback. The idea to Yankee can't throw for over three hundred yards. It's the same thing every week one seventy five two hundred touchdown. Can't though the ball downfield. It's a mess and Jerry Jones. This is why the Cowboys are one like a mom and pop store they've been in the playoffs. They've got two and eight in the postseason last twenty one seasons since the last time they want to Super Bowl. This is what they are. Because Jerry Jones thinks that he knows more about football and football guys. And this is why you have the mess. But if you anti cowboy fan, you should be happy as as get out because the Cowboys are non factor as long as Dak Prescott as a quarterback Joey Jones's own Jerry said he young and he's gonna get extended is any good yet. He's young but no-one by any analytics by any metrics. He's. Aggressed since two sixteen scale Bela's. That's fact, that's not conjecture. That's not speculation not innuendo less faction. You love Ginny, the stat skip Bayless eighty of the staff, and he loves it. He the guy he could have been a statistician. He will. You you always time. I only use the case closers. Okay. Okay. What you call? It wouldn't you? Oh, yeah. Twenty-fifth QB on. I told you that to start. I lightened, you know, now, you're using my staff. What do you try to do? He tried to use the situation. If I put it out there fuse, not you told me that all measure when he finished third when he finished second. He finished third fourth. Oh, so in other words, bad you by your logic. Skip Bayless logic that got the twenty th rate quarterback at all the rack. So they had the twenty fifth ranked quarterback input ball their twenty twenty-seventh this gory. And this guy this young leading your franchise to wear. Tell me what it's my job after you to quit. After you to quit. You ask the question. But what you Jedi isn't my go to try go to try you try to get look. I get you you hopefully, you find. Okay, the expansion. Okay. You would extend him at what at what price is going to be fifteen million is gonna be eighteen million. Or they're going to be the going rate would Lowe. Rob Lowe in Matthew, Stafford twenty seven twenty eight thirty million dollars. That's the big question. Because if you only answer, no, no, no, no. If you get it for Tampa fifty million dollars less than the going rate. That's a great deal. But if you think this guy's gonna take what even at that money, Shan and even at a discounted rate where you lay Blake Bortles in case keenum, h wait on. No. But I'm gonna sample. Are you going Cowboys going nowhere with him at a visual skank you very on? So rob Parker conveniently avoided acknowledging that he owes me another dinner off Friday Sunday night in my right about doing not talking about mate. Similar crow right about that. And to answer this question. I would like to show what I posted very late last night on Instagram because this is my answer to this question. Can we see this, please? Thank you. Right. Come into my kitchen. You've been in my kitchen, raw Dr. Good. That was the best throw the night. Now second-best Dak didn't even come close to be in that accurate with both those those it's kind of hard to hit that lamp. I am both man. And they. I'm good. So my cannot defend that Prescott anymore because he dangerously regressing in his third year play to twenty fifth and coupon although I will remind you Aaron Rodgers as twenty second and QBR. So you love that stat because you used it. So just fifteen touching. Twenty seven twenty five. I have not I don't drink, and I never gave it up. Oh, dang something wrong with you. So even though Dak had decent numbers last night. Twenty one thirty one for two forty three and two touchdowns with winning or -ception. The in the interception was absolutely indefensible and unforgivable, and it was the worst decision of his football life in. It was the turning point decision of the twenty eight team Dallas Cowboys because they were teetering on good bad. Good bad. Good bad. And they went way bad. They are three and five bad because Dak Prescott forced to throw off his back foot gun shy seen feeling to rush in the direction of his newest greatest receiver Amari Cooper, who is completely double cover. First team all pro safety Kevin buyer, and he threw it like Amari is seven feet tall when he's all of six feet one inches tall. It was a horrendously bad throw. And I actually now appreciate the fact that Kevin buyer added. Insult to injury by running straight to the star and celebrating because we deserve that because the quarterback deserved it. And I believe that team lost heart in faith in the quarterback at that point. Because there have been too many of those this year, I will still defend his rookie year as the greatest rookie year any quarterback in the history of this league is ever played. And that is independent RG threes. Absolutely. This ask it was since ational RG three hundred rocky start. But then he came on strong. I'll just show you the numbers. It was since ational and they ran away with the division thirteen and three. And then in the second year, I defend that because his QBR plummeted from third to fourth in the league. And he outplayed Aaron Rodgers and Jared Goff Ellie. Know show, you the numbers he was really good last year in somehow got them to nine and seven just because of him would nosy for six games, and no, Sean Lee for six gangs. But last night in defensible last night. He was teetering on disaster as third your quarterback. And I know Jerry has to say the right thing and try to defend him. But I can't I won't everything. You just said is exactly frighteningly true to me because I'm not seeing it this year. I don't see anything, and it started at Carolina and that disastrous opener and it continued at Seattle, and it's just been one disaster after another and I'll see flashes like at the end of the first half last night. He goes ten plays seventy three yards because they went up tempo. No huddle. Take the decision making out of it. And just let him rock and fire and he's pretty good. And you saw him he through about five good balls in a row because he threw him with thirty and conviction in the second half. When the pressure remounted on him, and it's fourteen. All disaster. Should know it shouldn't be concerned those out and is trying to say the right things. But he went out and got he spent a first round pick to get Amari Cooper. And I know it's just one game body a work, but that was a really bad sign. But he also said he didn't feel scenario with Dez wouldn't be back with the team. And we know how that worked. Well, he said he's going to be extended and all I have right now is extended heartburn from last night because just that that was awful. And Jerry knows it and I'm gonna quote, Jerry one more time he said, candidly, I did not see this coming. That's what he said. In the locker last night. I'm still like rocked by what happened last night because off I'll buy when you're three and at home it gets the thirtieth ranked offense and you got don't forget, let's not let the defense off the ranked number one in scoring defense. And it got devastated by quarterback who's not very good. What about your office? You twenty-seven going defense? You hold the defense just as accountable. Told you win the game ended. I couldn't figure out should I blame Dak more the defense more because it's kind of like pick your poison because they were both thing you have if you have a quarterback to worth anything you a quarterback driven team. You know, they have been a defense driven team. How in other words, would then you then you be rob said that Dacca they game manager deep Isabey football team. Right. This year. They have been defensive last year. They were horrendous on defensive even in twenty sixteen. They weren't buddy. Jerry. I remember how long it took them to really embraced by him. But I don't think it was because of that it was still his love. Tightly? Let's just remember, let's reframe this. Remember Dak Prescott in his one and only playoff game. It gets air Rogers was he not great in that game three hundred yards and three touchdowns and got him back into they were down what twenty one to three? Wait a second. It was thirty one all in. It took Mason cross are making. Well, my Ryan fifty six yards and fifty one yards to win the game. But you could get that. Wow. Don't don't do that that? Okay. But he's a rookie quarterback planers first playoff game against the guy. You say is the greatest quarterback Aaron made that and that was how they. That was. They're playing pre that they got sixty days back on the already make that throw other division. I coulda made that throw and I couldn't make the catch. In fact, I coulda thrown it to myself going. Rob another rookie to start a playoff game. So make sure that only rookie to ever start a playoff game. No, okay. So what do we call? It. Your point my point. Is you keep hyping? Oh, he's started out gay. He lost. Okay. But tell me he was bad in that game. He was basically dad day lov out, please. We don't we don't great at my restaurant. Good restaurants gonna get shut. Expect to get a. Got a plus if the place to be Bahati owes really fails. Dell's home menu only you served only winter I don't what happened was give. I at first I was in the business of excuse me. But I kept having to change the menu key come up with different excuse, cutting, doesn't you know what I'm gonna get into the win business. I always told you short menu manuals just wins in Lawson. Now, what was it? We actually from cowboy fan when they saw your does. Anybody? I don't know. You don't know what people say is that into fish Joe Ernestine, go get the jersey. Fish darn let's day never gonna wear off. You. That. Get right here. Then hot hot news in rob can buy me dinner at Shannon's restaurant. Those me down. Those me down there in cowboy did that I was on a roll against you. Don't you don't go to that. Well, again, we're not go to that Brady. Well, I'm gonna get it back. Get get all of my cases back when you're gonna lose. So many more cases you're forgetting about a pending bet you got Alabama doesn't forget about getting packing mind, Alabama, and I got Bama. That that's no opinion. Morrow? I will remind you you said. Oh, yeah. Thank you for. Hip was upset with the combo as last night car. You're having was not happy with the nuggets. We'll show you what happened that. Last night to mow Murray of the nuggets scored a career-high forty eight points against the Celtics, but Kylie Irving was not happy with the end of the game Murray through three pointer at the buzzer with the nuggets up eight and grabbed the ball threw it into the stands. And after the game. He said, quote, I was pissed. The ball deserves to go on the crowd after a BS move like that shit Hanan. Shit hanan. Do you have a problem with that shot for Murray know, who am I gonna carry if mad at the last four seconds of the game were together tempted to three but what about getting cooked for forty eight? So before that shot he was nineteen or twenty nine. Nobody was upset about in the same. As you should've put the ball up in the stands and maybe have one ball. And he wouldn't have got that many points. You know, there's a big difference between forty eight and fifty points the NBA game. Yeah. Just like his big difference between ninety nine Rb is a hundred RBI baseball. We know this giving when guys get closer if you have ninety nine RBI, you might have the division sewn up that guy's going to be in the lineup skip because he's trying to get to a hundred. We understand that. That's always going to be the case. So stopping don't let it you. Don't want to get the fifty man mainly got forty eight. He drop it everything. I mean, he looked like Jordan. He looked like Kobe shoe, they'll curry Klay Thompson, he doing all. That ain't nobody may take one shot be as move. What about that? He was getting. Hm? They got all this unwritten stuff skill. They they need to miss me with all this. So speaking of cooking last night, kyri went crazy. He was thirteen to seventeen and four six three for thirty one point. So he was doing some stuff himself. Right. So I think there was a little bit of personal animosity because he felt like he got up staged happy. I write remember the other guy had scored the most points ever by any Canadian NBA player because the eclipsed Andrew Wiggins forty seven so we already had forty eight. And this was a rub it in shot for fifty one. And he just shot a set shot aimed shooting jump shot. You're kinda shot three throw from three point. And yet Jamal Murray. We know has little reputation for rubbing, and he's got a little shea sharp any of it in factor going on. Right. What did you do to Lonzo last year at the end of the game? Remember, he came and just dribbled. Right. And yet tried to show him up at Thomas who was in with the Lakers took great exception to that. And now, he's a Denver Nuggets. So I get you on the rules. But I don't have a big problem with that. Because he was so crazy hot I'm gonna try one more here at the buzzer. I'm not gonna try hard. I'm not going to jump. I'm just gonna shoot set shot here, but Kyrie was hot because he got up stage and then a former Cavs assistant named Judy Fernandez. Who's now with the nuggets came and tried to shake Kyrie's hand while he had the ball in his and he just ripped away from the shake and he's the ball up into the rafters. Accuracy of this Ricky Davis. Oh, Bob, sir. You remember they used to throw the ball of their own backboard to get a triple double and the NBA had to do away with that. But now we're not allowed that half with if that's BS move like that. And I got no problem with but come on that. That's not what you mad about do cook you nineteen to twenty nine and a lot of them shots. Like he may not never he he might not ever get this hot against. So might use average in nineteen coming in with beg about thirty one more almost thirty more than the score that he's scoring average. So to get that big difference. Give say between forty eight fifteen and you know this. So I'm going for it. Okay. But if I'm a Celtic fan, and I'm Kyra fan, but I loved Kyrie's reaction, even though I don't have a problem with Jamal. But that was the first glimpse of the old kyri. I saw because he hadn't been able to get his legs underneath him after his second big surgery on his knee and car regarding you, probably some would've advocate with. I don't wanna do. Now, I wanna do. Oh, no, don't slap me sister coach hand way DEA. Thirteen thirteen seventeen for kyri. That's that's pretty good, man. We we talk about that. Forty eight p k draw. You know, what as as talented and deep Eze Celtics are in the end, you know, and I know they're going to go as kyri takes farce. He takes them in. I think this is the first indication he can take them a long ways because they're only six and four they lost. But everybody's gonna lose it. Denver think. Lebrons gonna win at Denver last year. Okay. Guarding yoke it. He got the joker. And Golden State went in there last year and got doors blown all my right, but David to stop without his stuff. He tried. He tried to show us up that may have fought it had a forty eight piece at that point. We'll let him go and get to mow nuggets Philipe. Well, the kind of stuff you get mad something that you could've prevented could've prevented this. Yeah. He would be get even I just win more cases of do. It's okay. Actually, I want. I want a billion dollars. I wanna billion OMI a book, you know, what even though that billion dollars? The fact that do you know, what the interest is on a billion dollars? It's just that ticker is just. Cowboy losing use a shadow if you let a cowboy getting the playoff. I let you have weird that you could have to be dollars back. The Cowboys big the player if the Cowboys it is over. No, no, no, no. It's over you think I like the cowboy lose it and not having a chance. No. I wanted to hurt. I want to get right there. Like the last two weeks. It's nice. I hope you enjoyed your day because your day is coming to an end. Kim. No do this season is over for Mike Albo did do that. He he's trying to drain the tuck physically Biddle, you had it gave it to you all day long. Now back to reality reality. What about Floyd Mayweather is his legacy of take avai yet? Final topic of day Floyd Mayweather announced Sunday that he'll fight on New Year's Eve and Japan against a twenty year old Japanese kickboxer. We don't know the rules of the fight as expected there were plenty of reactions and fifty cents said the fight is a joke, and may weather is quote, fighting and Hoover. Ever Shannon inbounds out of bounds bounds. But there was no love between Florida. This has been going. They used to be bad friends. They used all made up with almost business partner. They call the man. So he's by June tile, the rush hour skip become flowing skill. I'm going to be so hurt on going to be so disappointed in flowing. If I ever find that he financial bind again because that would be unacceptable because that's what fit is sort of. Yes. What Phidias insinuate sinewy? And obviously when you spend the kind of money you have the labs lifestyle. Yeah. That's unsustainable alleged you're going to contain they make three hundred four hundred dollars a year, Florida that the because. Boxing is only generated so he doesn't endorse products that make money. So I read the Uber driver reference before the cowboy game. So I was able to laugh, but then I wouldn't have started crying as the end of that. Then some Conor McGregor stuff. And I'm gonna say it again. He's like a gifted stand up comic. If he goes on his routine, so he goes on Instagram routine against Floyd. But then I loved it the kickboxer then response to McGregor and says Hello, Mr. McGregor. I promise to avenge your loss. Do watch my fight. So I like that way to go, but I'll give you disappointed to if a guy makes the five hundred million to three fights and he fighting again because even finance situation. Loyd is the greatest defensive fighter every he's going to do. Now. Thanks for listening to this podcast. I'm Johnny Taft. Join us again at the same time tomorrow morning, nine thirty eastern. See that.

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For Boomer, There Is Only One Tom Terrific

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For Boomer, There Is Only One Tom Terrific

"I'm not sure you saw this though. And I am. I actually am angry at this, your IRA very angry. It's one of those things that if I was angry at it. You tell me, why are you angry at this? So this is one of these things that if you felt this way about something as I do. Okay, then I would be there to support you one hundred percent got you know, normally I say, don't get all wrapped up in the things. Sure. Because sometimes you do get wrapped up into things that you shouldn't be wrapped up in. Yeah, I'm always getting wrapped up, right? Outboard engine on a crab pot. Right. Exactly getting wrapped up. Don't get wrapped up in it. But this thing I think, you know, I can get wrapped up in it, because it involves one of my childhood heroes on know where you go, you know where I'm going. Yeah. Yup. You know, I love Tom Seaver, you know, that I've been advocating for a senior statue forever, sin city field, open Craig, Craig card. My former partner gave me a beautiful Tom Seaver statue for my birthday that, my, my man Marc Mellon did for me. Sure. And it sits on my desk, and I have a reminder of Tom terrific, and who he was when he was the at the top of his game for the New York Mets. And now lo and behold comes the greatest quarterback of all time trying to trademark the name Thom Tura, I can't understand it as Hiba capital, you know, like when you got so much goddamn, money you can do whatever you want your and this is now. What Tom Tom Brady wants to take. Tom terrific his nickname now. Maybe in New England. They call them that I've ever heard that what you know what we've been calling Tom Seaver. Tom terrific forever for as long as I can remember. He's the only Tom terrific for fifty years, right? That's who Tom terrific. You could be my age. Could be younger. You could be your age. Everybody knows that and discussed it and I'm really surprised. I'm really like I don't know. It just it just feels sleazy to me, you know. Yeah. I can't believe that neither Tom because you would think that Tom being your name, and being a sports hero like he is would have known this, but neither Tom or anybody in his camp of lawyers, and money. People didn't say the think maybe this is going to be a problem since there is a Tom terrific already. And that's not you even though that Tom Seaver does not own a Monica. Tom stay away from it. It just I don't know. You know you both from California. You know, you got you got GTS vineyards out there in California now. You would think that you'd have some sensitivity. Well, especially when there's been some news, some sad news about Tom Seaver this year as well. Made you think about him actually, I gotta tell you this. There's very few things that I get really wrapped up in wrap wrapped up. What can is there anything you can do about nothing? I can do about. Well, sure there is to talk about. Not going end, and re recognize how eight true, great of a other sport, that had the name and was given the name well before he ever was given. So I asked you few months back, I said, the number in your phone of the most famous person. And you said Tom Brady, so you could reach out to Tom personally and say this. Tom terrific thing, not a fan of it. You gotta stop. Gotta stop it. The met fan in me is just basically really perturbed by. It's really just it just, just the Mets fan in you with it's just new voice me. You know, 'cause it tells me about, it's my childhood, and I don't like people messing with my childhood, and that's why I'm kind of wrapped up in this, but I'm not calling him the tell him now. Why not? Because I just told him that somebody will tell them that's not. I don't think so somebody will Witter me to him. But he's eight. Listen, if it was a New York athletes shore. I mean to get all the way up to him that's going to be Tari. I, I called him. I called him the greatest quarterback of all this has nothing to do that. I'm out five years ago. Right. Oh, do you ever get a call saying, hey, thanks for saying that? No, you never get that. You only get a call when you go negative. So I figure, I'm going to low bit negative right now because this is messing with mild childhood. I'm sorry. Yeah. You don't win wrapped up in it. I totally am, here's a way that you can you can make sure that he hears, you. So he does a weekly spot on the same radio show shows that you. Do a weekly on W E E is. So when football season starts up, again you start doing that. It's going to be the first thing out of your mouth week one. Like this is bulky and why wait, if you don't think if Morrison wants to be a guest on their show. They would say, yes. Guys, like right now patriots this year because I have, you know. You know, Tom terrific is not the Tom terrific. You think he is? Yeah. Well, I think that you have a, a legitimate gripe. You've got a voice, and you've got to be able to figure out how to make this other than screaming about it here. You can make it happen. You've always next break. You could just call up their studio right now and go on the air and have your message delivered in Boston. Yes. In. In what I gave my message where it needs to begin right here in New York, sow for other met fans, who are who are just as perturbed about this. I am. Yeah. I mean you could go directly to Tom and you're choosing not to. So I how I mean how upset are you about this? Tom terrific thing you don't want to smug is well that's what clueless. And I know he's got the beautiful, why he's got the, you know, the, the Super Bowl rings championships. The sleep wear. The Tom Brady capital guy. He's got everything. Yeah. You can't have. Tom terrific.

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Stopping Mahomes

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Stopping Mahomes

"Good morning from Miami. It's time to get up with Patrick Mahomes and we will give the niners blueprint to slow him down. It's so crazy just my word. The cowboys still haven't given Dak Prescott a new deal here. Why the cowboys quarterback isn't worried and if he should be and one patriots legends? The Tom Tom Brady should absolutely test the waters. What will tom find if he does? And who should be most interested. We have answers on. Get up starting right now from the Super Super Bowl and we're just a couple of days away. This is where it's all going to go down in that stadium the forty niners in the chiefs facing off and I don't know about you guys but I can't wait for the game either way right right behind us is the beach and we're having fun on that beach in fact you might spot a few of our friends there. Dinner lofty playing beach volleyball. Says he's really good at it but he's really Samal keeps. You didn't know welcome to get up. Everybody we're going to spend out our thoughts to Mike. Greenberg is a little under the weather today but Greenie were thinking about you and hope. I hope you're back here with US soon. Marcus Spheres Dominique. We Got Ryan Clark Rex Ryan and we got a whole bunch of other people too. So we're going to go ahead and get this thing started with Patrick Mahomes and why. Why wouldn't we begin there? It's been at postseason to remember for him. Throwing eight touchdowns with no interceptions in victories over the titans and a Texas but now he gets set for his toughest test in the forty niners defense. They'll try their best to contain. Here's what they're saying about it. He's able to hit every single legal pass. I mean off his back leg. I'm jumping in the air Obviously has no look passes. sidearm is crazy so He's able to hit every receiver that when when he can so We just need a really good job like I've been saying Oh with just you know bring constant pressure making them uncomfortable in the pocket and not allowing him. Those easy throws we can't let them out of the pocket to close those gaps and not let them get the edge Russia's a unit make him throw uncomfortably. And so you could do. Nobody told me about okay. So we have assembled a plethora of great defensive minds here. That's not really the right way to say it either. Way Defense offense on this table so rex if you were preparing to face Patrick Mahomes. What would you do to try to limit him? Well the first thing you have to do is you gotta rattle rattle his cage. Somehow you gotta rattle his cage and is that me blitzing. Does that mean whatever. Well for the most part. Yeah if you assume the how would I come that blitz of but now with this team now with this personnel. This personnel has the of nine defense alignment active on Game Day. No team in the League has that and by the way I five of them are first round picks for our top ten picks so to me. That's how you get it done. The great thing about this makes it easy. Is that so you don't have to stop the run. You going to stop the run on the way to the quarterback you have sixty minutes of Russian the passer and you built this team that way. We'll see if it works the wrecks. I I like we everything you said. But you're wrong about one thing. I you start with prayer. That's the person you doing home into a word up to whoever it is you believe in and and ask for some help but from there I think the d line is good but that's not sufficient. You're also going to have to blitz him aggressively I think zero blitz. We can't do zone dogs. We got to be aggressive zero blitz. Not every down but you catch them off guard you can get 'em flustered you get them to throw the ball away. Here's the Ravens. This season sending extra Dan zero he gave up on the play before. Anybody even got to throw it away in the game earlier where you have a free run off the age on thirty nine East situation. He's got a plus out of pocket. And one of the worse things is just in one blitz. He can break one blitzer and and make a big play out of that. If you send a gang guys he has the flush and make a play. You can't make a habit out of it. They'll check the screens and those sorts of things. But you can do that on early down to scare you know you can't make could have a habit out of it. You have to confuse him. And I don't mean that you're going to throw things at Patrick mahomes that he hasn't seen but you need to make him make decisions once he gets the ball if he gets stood align he knows you're a man or he knows you zero blitz. He's going to be able to figure out how to get the ball out of his hands and if he does that. Then you're in trouble and I agree with him on the prayer part but along with. Let's get some turnovers. Yeah that's what you have to do if there's a tipped ball if there's an overthrow there can't be dropped intercepts when you get opportunities to turn hurting the ball over it. Gets Patrick Mahomes. You have to capitalize. Because he is going to make plays were pet. MAHOMES GONNA be praying to eliminate your. Here's the thing you gotta do. The defensive line to me is the most important that we've talked about how talented they are. I'm talking about from a communication standpoint. The four guys up front and then when you do bring that pressure sir. You guys are talking about. Everyone has to understand what their responsibility is. You see here. I'll show you tape with the with the Texans. Jj Watt You keep outside contain this blitz gets home right but what they read does he says is back over. Jj decide to take the inside right on the bank it Creates Open Free Life Pat Mahomes to go create and look out say the time and time again we gotta start talking about him as a dual threat guy because now he's starting to pick up in May gain trains and plays with his feet. Here's a similar situation. This is a pretty good pocket but one of those tackles has to press back to the center. Line of scrimmage if you don't fifteen identified that and and it gets out and even on this play but Najd mckinney was spine Patrie mold so he's in that lead quarterback that has a talent. You know what else we knew knew Michael Jordan was gonNA shoot due to fade away. But you can stop it. Wasn't I kind of disagree with reliant only to delight because that'd be line is Great. They're going to get some Saks Olafur. The chiefs is also great. And I don't know if a sack is one sack is equivalent to sixty yard touchdown and he's GonNa throw so he's got to give us some tax that he's going to overcome thirty third. Wait a number leads all the time you're going to give up plenty long touchdown looks not blitz is less than the San Francisco Forty niners and you really think they're going to change aged now no chance of it. They're going to have to mix their coverages and get after they were not make a habit out of that. Cover three because Andy Reid loves full and Patrick Mahomes. There's GonNa eat those teams alive. That's what they think they're going to see a lot of to man and and On third down he's run. The ball can't niners niners now. You have the recipe to limit. Patrick Mahomes guys. Let's get to the quarterback in this game Jimmy Garoppolo some people's as a gay manager. Not so fast is my friends. He owns a passer rating of one hundred fifty four outside the pocket that would be the highest mark in anti quarterback seasons. ESPN begin tracking these things in. Oh six he's completed sixty percent of his passes during fifteen plus yards. Beyond the line of scrimmage that's the highest mark of any quarterback in the NFL this season and with the game on the line. He's been money Johny Garoppolo owns a QBR of eighty four out of one hundred in the fourth quarter of the game within one possession. That is you guessed it the highest mark in the NFL NFL. Dan Graziano our NFL. Insider is here. He's got Orlovsky. And Louis Riddick over there guys what do you think about Jimmy. G. Got High Level football intellect over here making making us smarter Dan Orlovsky look at Jimmy. Garoppolo hasn't had to do much in this playoff run. What's the biggest key for him on Sunday? Oh big thing is going to be third down. And he's been great in third down. This year are in the NFL. This year under pressure situations he's got the best completion percentage and he's got the most yards per attempt. We saw that Minnesota game in the playoffs where he had to make some goods third down conversions under some forms of pressure eight delivered. We saw it in the saints game in the Rams game that everyone talks about what he had to step up late in that game on third down situation to push push to put ball downfield. Jimmy G. has proven to us that when the moment has presented itself he's answered the call this year. We talk about like. Do you trust Jimmy late in the football game. He's been in that situation six times this year when he's had to get the football and go lead their team to a score to win a football game his foreign to doing that. This season the two losses. He's sent them into overtime against the SEAHAWKS. And then he gave them the lead against the Falcons and the defense gave up that lead. We have not seen Jimmy. Garoppolo had the opportunity ready to win the football game in the fourth quarter late and fail this year Lewis. You Trust Jimmy Garoppolo. If he has to carry the forty niners to a victory on Sunday. Yeah actually I do look philosophically. They're not built the same way. Kansas City. Kansas City is built. Throw the ball early. Throw the ball late. Throw the ball in the fifth quarter. Throw the ball on the bus. Throw the ball practice. This is how they built. That's how Andy wants to do. He's wanted to do that since he became head. Coach of the Eagles in nineteen ninety. Nine San Francisco. Does things differently San Francisco. Obviously we'll show you throw the ball eight times. Run Down your throat. San Francisco takes kind of New England Patriot mentality which will do whatever we think is working best to win that day which means our philosophy is kind of like an Amoeba. We'll just move around so jimmy hasn't had to have a steady diet of throwing the football in order to win if he gets into this kind of shootout. Obviously I think it plays the favor of the Kansas City chiefs because Patrick's different practice on a different level. We've known that he would know that. Since the first time you stepped on the field but Jimmy had to get into a shootout. He showed he went down to the superdome. We all know what the Superdome is like. We all know what that environment is like. We all know what it's like when drew brees and Michael Thomas are on a roll and he said you know what I'll see that throwing. I'll raise you one. Raise you another one and if you look at their perimeter players if you said look I'll give you deebo Samuel. I'll give you Kendrick born off. Give you George kittle. I'll give you Emmanuel Sanders. You think you can win a shootout Nell L. Yakima shootout so. Let's see how this plays. I'm hoping it plays out that way because I think that'll be exciting for the fans. And I think quite honestly I think Jimmy will announce to the world pretty darn good quarterback. I'm not saying he's on pets level. I don't believe that and I'm picking the chiefs to win the game but I think he would be able to compete in that kind of situation to where he's not gonNA lose the game for them and and we need to get people to understand that. This is a thirteen three football team right three losses on the last play the game so just because they've got the great defense and a great defensive line the really good run game and George. CADLE doesn't mean that they're quarterbacks not really good as well all those things can be true and we've seen it with the thirteen and three record. I mean this is the most dominant dominant team from week one to week. Seventeen and through the playoffs in the NFL. This year quarterback is part of the reason why we're just getting started with all kinds of NFL content. Here today Laura what do you got. Yeah let's get to Jack because it's the contract we've been talking about since August as impending free agent Dak Prescott awaits a new deal from the cowboys. He sat down with sportscenter sage steele and express how he feels about where he stands with the team in his negotiation. Just say I'm confident I'm confident. A new contract is coming confident. My agent and my team confident cowboys. There's something will get done. Can you picture yourself playing anywhere else else. How when you're the quarterback of the Dallas cowboys there's very few position in sports that even comparable So I haven't I mean from a little boy. I've always imagine and being a quarterback of the Dallas cowboys and I've been blessed to be that and never imagined wearing wearing anything else so Dan Graziano our NFL fell insider. We've asked you this question so many times. Where do we stand from what you're hearing with these negotiations with the cowboys? He keeps using that word. Confident in that soundbite and and I think that's where it's been all along from his standpoint and from the teams no deal yet but they're both both sides are confident there will be at some point the cowboys. No they can franchises tries him if need be. He knows that he can live with that. Because that would be about twenty seven million and he just played last year for two million so neither side has had to move toward each other to bridge the gap at some point they will. There's no reason for anyone out there watching to fear the Dak.. Prescott won't be the quarterback of the Dallas cowboys this year and beyond. It's just a matter better than getting to that magic number more from Dan Graziano in the guys over there. But we bring it back out here and Bobby Carpenter joining us as well over here and look. I WanNa go to you first Marcus because you obviously spent plenty of time with the cowboys and you've been very strong on. What Dax should do here? If he is franchise do you think he should sit out. He should not sign the franchise tag. There will be this whole converse this overall a conversation about that Prescott and the type of guy he is. This is the business as part of football and I think that it's very important for us to make sure that we help people understand that given out contracts because they feel good about it you get what you earned in that for all intents and purposes based on what. He's done his first four years with the Dallas. Cowboys has earned a franchise type quarterback money. Now you can debate bay thirty five million forty million wherever you want to go with that. But he's earned to be one of the top paid quarterbacks because he's in that narrative right now but if I'm his ages I and I played four years of high level football. Remember that went. Thirteen three is rookie year. After after ALMO got hurt and everybody thought the Dallas Cowboys Alborz organization was go. Go down the tank. A fourth round pick from Mississippi state played out of his mind and we start our own. Tony Romo actually retired because that cuts got biology ball. Now we sit here from a year a year from now where he made two million dollars compensation about him a franchise. My last point guys. I'm sorry do you take when we will. We have conversations about franchise quarterback franchise quarterbacks. We don't talk about contract negotiation. And what we're talking about. It's GonNa we'll get done and with that. Jerry Jones is GonNa not only pay Dak Prescott. Pay Him before the season. It's GonNa get done and he's GonNa make him the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. He can him an in hall all he wants and talk about this counts. You're planning for the cowboys. That's a blessing off the field money. But I'm not gonNA look at your. I'm not gonNA look at what you're saying I'm GonNa look at what what you've done in one thousand nine hundred ninety three. He made Troy Aikman the highest paid quarterback. He brings that up then in two thousand thirteen. He made Tony Romo. The highest paid quarterback he brings data. He loves to talk about. Hey I can pay anybody I want. I'm the one of the richest sodas in sports point. Dairy likes to put on a show but deep deep deep down inside Jerry Jones the persona of a wrapper he wants to flex he wanted to start so he cannot wait to make it. Rain GonNa make speak about it and talk about it all the way up into the process but given opportunity he's GonNa make him the highest paid because that looks good for him and Dak has certainly earned it. I think it's smarter to get it done. And before Patrick mahomes changes changes. There's the overton window. And what we think quarterbacks the other piece of this is we're talking about what deck played for the fact that he played for two million. That's on deck deck that's on the performance that he had Mississippi State and where people projected him to be in the draft become now has he played that yes. But that doesn't mean that the Dallas cowboys had to make up for drafting him. In the fourth round. With this next contract I agree. He should be the highest paid quarterback into league win. His deal is done if it's done before four Patrick Mahomes the other side of that is this. There's amount of money that Dak Prescott can ask for. That's ridiculous right. He can go in and say I want this amount of money Jerry Jones. Could you say you know what you are not worth it. So we have to understand that. Getting Franchise quarterback money doesn't mean. I'm setting the bar so high. The quarterbacks aren't even nearby yeah in the franchise money projected for a quarterback. If he were to be franchised. It'd be twenty seven million dollars. I want to ask you this. If he does get franchise what do you think should he sit out. I think he's just sit out. Well listen the press the press to do was set by Zeke Elliott. Zeke Elliott was in Kabul getting fat. And then he got fed. So if you're going to do that if you're gonna a show me that you can get ninety million for hanging out on the beach. And I'm your franchise guy you show me. Show me that. You will take the fitness of timber or I don't know about it. Tell me a damn thing about this. Twenty seven million dollars no more. There's a difference in when you signed a piece of pain. You get fifty million as opposed the plan the whole season that plan for twenty seven. This we're talking about when that Prescott Goals in science whatever. His contract is him going to wherever bank. Keep banks with his financial house. Heading for about fifty being facilitated regular computer I'm I'm surprised Jerry gave him eight hundred million dollars. Garin for sure simple. He's not due to dinner when we're all sitting around Everybody Looks Jersey. Oh that one man just it was out those credit card. Everybody looks around then walks with one thing that you said earlier. It's like you get what you earn. That's not true. He's earned the contract. You get what you demand. And if that's the point we're getting he's not the type of guy who thinks going to sit out or hold our whatever but if he does he gets paid immediately imagining off season without their starting quarterback who's been big and big moment demand and be be chilling at home. Yeah well you could really hard to imagine him doing either way the cowboys offense led the NFL. This past year Dan Graziano. You've got more over there with them. Not something that I want. When you're talking about that Prescott and the cowboys expected? They'll they'll get it done. He expects they'll get it done. But Louis knowing that they can use the franchise tag. How important is it for them to get a deal done before that happens before they have to do that? And it's important because you know once they go down that road. Things can get very sticky. Dan You and you don't WanNa look. There comes a point in time where the relationship between and the quarterback and the owner in the franchise that that relationship is important because quite honestly. What's their next best alternative? Because that's the next thing you have to start considering you start to fracture this relationship and you built really built this entire football team in such a way to emphasize deck strengthen minimizes weaknesses. Right you built offense align the way you build it. You made it a run centric team. Because he thought Dako one of the best plaques and quarterbacks at the NFL has an you went out. And you've got him Amari Cooper again to help him take his game onto the next level so I think it's imperative to go ahead and capitalize on all those moves that you made go ahead and try to find what is fair market value because look to strike a deal you have to have two people to strike a deal. We don't know what right now is holding this deal but we don't know what that is asking for is asking for something. Patrick Mahomes is as we have no idea. We don't know what Jerry really really is willing to pay him but it is important for them to do everything they can before you start doing the franchise tag dance because usually that ends with a player leaving and again. What is their next ex post alternative? They don't have a better one on the horizon. Not even close if the cowboys really want him to be there. Long term quarterback. I think they need to be really careful. And Franchise sagging. Because if they franchise dis tag them. I don't think there's any chance he's their quarterback in two years from now because he's he's GonNa be so disrespect. What do I have to do at the same time? This is the question washing that Jerry Jones needs to ask himself. We're asking right now about Patrick Mahomes. Okay once he gets paid. Are they going to be good enough. Because this is the best team. He's going to be surrounded with right now because he's cheap. The same can be said about Dak Prescott right and so Jerry. Jones is gonNA fork over that huge contract. That huge payday. That team is going to slowly be taken away from with the talent surrounding deck. This is a team that was oh and five against top ten defensive your decades eight touchdowns in seven turnovers so the reality is this and I said this back in January. Don't all pay good players great player money and I don't know if Dak Prescott has proven to be a great quarterback in the NFL. And I would argue with RC. He's lucky I'm not over there. I don't think he's worthy of being the top paid quarterback in the NFL. The guy that we're going to watch on Sunday is and so it's a very delicate situation for Dallas and they'd better handle it the right way or they could hurt themselves in the long run. Laura we're GONNA keep Dan and are separated as long as we can. I got a hunch. We're GONNA talk about that again before this summer. Emerged as a quarterback in football. I think that's the way it works. He's the he's the next guy we always see. There's always one where was and we always see. What Gulf mistakes? I'm not worried about. What would you say Laura? RC Kinda data speed either. Way Is Patrick. Mahomes that goat if he wins this game one person here says he might be. We get into that next and Tom Brady. Might be the best and the greatest quarterback of all time. So what is another patriots legend saying about his future that answer ahead. We are here in Miami. South beach is where where we're at get up on. 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I've been cover him consistently in quarters one two three and four and men coverage he's one of the best route runners at any position we have in the NFL very slippery. It's smooth what he he does. He catches everything. Thrown him in the trust level between him and Mahomes is great. Aussie Travis Kelsey. Either from the Super Bowl continues with Marcus fears which pass pressure DC. Making a bigger impact Frank Clark or fort. That'd be Frank Clark from me first of all you'll have more opportunities because of the rotation with the San Francisco Forty niners defensive line of Frank Clark has talked so much smoke that if he doesn't have a big game he knows what's coming especially from the swag I think he's going to have a huge game. He's he's been in this position for entire season he understands that deport calls them last year. As he's openly talked about this week he had a I assure yourself fired. He can do it Dan. You could start doing it. Hey Bob which of the two head coaches do you think will play a bigger role in the outcome of the game was Kyle Shanahan and its ability to learn from past mistakes. You saw a strip sack there when he was the coordinator of the talking fifteen times or leading three scores. They've never fourteen passes that game through this. NFC playoff run. He might never throw it again. Lorries learn from his mistakes. Running as anybody. You're going to find. It's going to be fascinating to see how that plays out on. Both sides and either roar is also a question. Tom Brady will be asking this off season as he tries to decide whether to stay in New England or go to another team former teammate rob Gronkowski cousy thinks it's smart for him to consider his options. Here's what Gronk said quote. I truly believe he deserves the opportunity to go explore to see what's out. There told this to the Boston Austin Globe. I mean he's been playing for so long and he's just getting the opportunity at the level that he's playing at. He definitely deserves an opportunity to go out there and test the the market. Why wouldn't you all right so our? NFL Insider Dan Graziano. What are you hearing about Tom? Brady here and what he might do. So many people saying he should stay with the Patriots but a lot of people agree with and say maybe you should go test some of those waters. Yeah what I'm hearing is. What Gronk is saying that Tom Brady wants to be a free agent? And everything that comes with that meaning considering playing for other teams hearing offers from other teams maybe even visiting other teams in imagining yourself there so he could end up back in New England. Yes but there's a very real possibility. He goes somewhere else right now. I think he's an stage where he wants to find out. What he thinks is the best move for him? Graziano more from you in just a moment but Dan Roloff Ski. I WANNA ask skew about what exactly Tom Brady. Is doing here because it does seem like he might be having a little bit of fun testing some of these waters. What is your gut tell you that he might do? I don't think there's any chance Hansi goes back to New England and I think the reality is this. Tom Brady's about championships right. I know yes. It's about power and control in the brand but Tom Brady's about championships. So so he's GonNa look at it and go all right. What team is a quarterback away for being a championship contender? And if you just took the emotion out of it and took the past twenty years out of in laid the teams out there New England's not one of those teams. That's a quarterback away from winning a championship. They've got more holes than just that spot. And then he's GonNa look at. Maybe in Oakland Raiders. Or maybe at Tennessee. Or maybe the chargers go. Those teams are really good quarterback play away from being championship contending football teams James Not to get the end of the day out of all the variables. That are GONNA come into play for Tom Brady. That's going to be the biggest question I've got one two. Maybe three years less. He's he's still playing at a high level no matter what people at home want to tell you what not. He's still playing level. What team in the NFL or teams in the NFL? Our quarterback away from being championship chip containing football teams. And that's Tom. Brady's GONNA WANNA go play we've got we've grown so accustomed to the success that people are afraid to say that this is the restructuring of a dynasty honesty. That's what's taking place. Look I don't fall intensive purposes when a guy has played this long haired this much success. You don't see him going anywhere. I saw breath. Go somewhere I I saw. I've seen a lot of quarterbacks lead that you don't think should leave a franchise because they are synonymous with the name of the franchise. There is absolutely nothing left for Tom Brady to do for the New England Patriots Franchise. Maybe this is about Tom. Brady and the and the bottom line is this and I said coming weeks ago. Maybe he wants to just go have fun. Relieve himself the pressure of the New England Patriots Way and having to deal with all of the things that he's dealt with pushback Tom he is. Here's a guy that wants to win. Here's won six titles. I'd guaranteed one win the seventh like he's looking around trying to find. Where else could I potentially win? I think he's a student of history. When you look at the I'll give what he's doing you understand this place and you look at those elections and far? We didn't WANNA see employees in Minnesota. He didn't WanNa see Montana play in Kansas City. Those Guys Scott Thirteenth Two Conference Championship Games. I think Tom might look at that and say well. Can I do it somewhere else. Is there a better spot for me. In with the roster's how they're comprised today. Today there are other places that are better for and just quickly to put out the timeline. Here guys we're talking about like March talking about early March. This decision would need to be made made. I think that part of it is really crazy Dan because these decisions are probably being made behind the scenes right now but either way it's coming quicker is going to be a small pool. It's not going to be thirty. Two teams teams. That are in the conversation. It's going to be a small pool that one are championship. Caliber football teams to are well run organizations in three. Tom Brady goes aren't I can work with that head coach and I I know that offense coordinator scheme fits me. Here's the reality. One word comes to mind for me with Tom Brady help he wants help. He knows I only have so many years. Here's left and I better have some help going to achieve. He watched those other quarterbacks win super bowls. They didn't do it on their own. They had help in right now. New England cannot offer. Tom Brady a lot of help to win another super bowl and two. Yeah Dan Graziano one of the things that a lot of people have said about this is is that his family. Brady's family some of those considerations might have even more important than people are giving credit for. Yeah absolutely we don't know Tom. Brady's mind on this and I think that's what's very important for people to understand to my knowledge. Tom Brady is not not asked any of us for advice. But we're GONNA from so many way Lewis. Where do you think he should go? Where should he go? Quonsett to return to New England. But I think that's going to be his choice that we keep talking about this entire situation as if it's Tom L. old and everybody hurts isn't saying look. You're going to make a decision knowing was going to make a decision about where they want to go with this Very quickly larr reference. The Mark Timeline. Look New England is going to have to figure regret whether or not they want to go young and rebuild or whether they want to go you know we still do have enough pieces. We still do have the ability to be much more aggressive in free agency not like let people become thus but go get someone say. Look Tom. This is what we can do. You need some more weaponries festival in the perimeter this is we can go get. We will make sure that offense Alana's taking caravan may not be the same way as it was when Dante was here. Josh is still here. We still have a good defense. And I'm still bill belichick so I still can. We can offer you the best chance to win but it's going to be about. They're not going to be held hostage. They're not going to sit back and go ahead of. Tom Dragged on and on and on offering him the best chance to win. They have have to warn him back. Yeah that's that's that's what I'm saying. So they need to declare whether or not they're actually going to rebuild or they're going to make another run and don't underestimate this either. Obviously Robert Kraft is ultimately the one who can decide whatever the heck he wants to do with his team and that relationship is special. That relationship can make everything else below. It means seemed totally insignificant significant pieces. I want you back and I'm GONNA pay. He'll tell bill. This is what we're doing and two story REX. We think if that's New England's pitch. We're going to make the team better. We're still a contender. You buying it buying it because the number one defense in the National Football League you have the best coaches Lewis mentioned so yeah. It's still there. Are they awful at skill position. Yes they are as their offense. I need to get much better. They do but you know for for us to look at Tom Brady going somewhere else. This isn't just any any guy this is. This is the New England patriots. He's going to look awful and in. I mean in a different uniforms. Like Oh my God but we gotta look at it this way Peyton. Manning won a super bowl in Denver. You know saw no. I've seen it happen if anything. Please go to. The chargers my sons there. Let's go win a superbowl charges. If you go anywhere. Listen to Bobby. Talk about these guys guys that have gone to other teams Brett. farve had Aaron Rogers waiting behind him. Steve Young was the next quarterback behind Joe Montana. Lewis made the point that they're going to have the fear what they're gonNA do with the team but also with the position in New England they need to figure out if it's time to rebuild because they don't necessarily have the next guy waiting in the wings behind Tom Brady so it's going to be about your pitch where you want to go into the future and then making Tom Brady like vested place he needs to Peyton. Manning went to Denver. I just WANNA say it's real quiet. Looked peyton manning basically basically put in the offense. He coached team Thompson ever done that. That's not his deal so if you think he can go somewhere and implemented new program. I think you're setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. That's not to take anything away from him. But that's not how he operates. That's not how they operate very important thing to keep them. We're going to get this figured out lower where Tom should go. But in the meantime what else going on around the world of sports silence of it yeah and we will get back to super bowl coverage as well but Australian Open semifinals Roger Federer Novak Djokovic. And we're going to pick it up early in the first set and federal was cruising but then in the tie-breaker it's Jovic one nothing Jovovich of course returning federal shot of two nothing now. Five one in the tie-breaker joke of it's in control running toward the nets. Let's getting down the Nice dropshot winner. Jovovich wins the tiebreaker. And take the first set seven six and then second-set Jovic five four Deuce Jovovich ranging way to the right. They're getting a shot. That was incredible. Federer's backhand return shot goes right into the net. At Vantage Djokovic set point Jovovich Federer plays a dropshot at the net. And JOVIC hustling right. There sneaks up to the return shot right past better and Jovovich wins the second set six to Fort Jovic losing it all right third-set matchpoint Jovovich H.. And serving federal second shot returning going into the net. That's his thirty. Fifth Air Djokovic twins in straight-sets and heads to the Australian Open final so after besting Federer in three sets this morning in the semi finals. No that Jovovich will be looking to equal him in the record books as well if he is successful in the finals at this Australian Open it will will be his eleven. Th major title on the hardcore tying men's all time record currently held by longtime foe Roger Federer so much more coming your way from Miami the on get up. It's the forty niners win Sunday. Who will be the MVP? Jimmy G. Richard Sherman or someone else. We'll play answer the question next. We'll be right back from the beach and now another addition of obvious news from GEICO experts. Now say that wearing more clothes in the winter will in fact act help you be warmer. We asked co victim. Trent Patterson about this. And here's what he said was the weirdest thing I was a little cold sweater. Then wasn't cold like what also an obvious news Geico makes it easy to save money and easy to reach them with licensed agents available around the clock so switching is really smart decision. That's obvious news is from GEICO. Get up is brought to you by keurigs. Alright America's strong room. Monday is coming up the day after the big big game over fourteen million people will call in sick that day but not us not if we get back and tackle the day with a strong brew. Coffee made by the Curic K.. Duo plus brewer brewer. Thanks Paul Question next next. Jack do you care. What else do you want X.? Watching I'm looking to answer questions with check it out greenies a little sick so we bought culture Wednesday to Thursday. So you have me and my Guy Dominique I think. Wait Swag who's GonNa come in and eventually we ended up a little bit as I ask You you don. We don't get straight to it if the forty niners win the super bowl who will be the MVP. So I think the easy answer is Jimmy Garoppolo but I think it's unlikely Jimmy Garoppolo put up the the numbers he has to to get the MVP that means he's shootout with Patrick Mahomes and that means that Patrick Mahomes win so I think you're gonNA defend them side of the ball. I expect both to get the guy he's GonNa have to get a couple of sacks maybe caused awesome fumbles tip ball interceptions make enough place to slow down Kansas City chiefs offense enough that the forty niners canal score them. And I think a defensive guy probably nick both is the guy who gift not in that situation. This would be a situation where we just give the entire defensive line the not they know they rotate nine guys is going to be so many people getting pressure or Patrick loans. If you win this would be something like I thought it should have been when the Seattle seahawks won super bowl when it's a group effort. I believe the group should get the nod and get to hold the trophy the of all together so number two is this. We have this game. We're trying to figure out okay. What's going to happen? Who's going to be here? Who's going to be there? And what scenario scenario could you see happening that other people may not again we talk about how good that forty-nine is defense is. I could see a scenario. The chief defensive outplays the forty niners defense. I know it was down a little crazy. But the chiefs defense has been better statistically than the forty niners defense since we tint they've been outstanding and what happens in this game the chiefs have been coming from behind in their first. I playoff games. If the chiefs by Chance Get up in this playoff game. That's what this team is built. Like those old colts teams when Peyton manning was back there if they get a lead their defense is built to play. Well against the past. I could see a scenario where Garoppolo dropping back rob a great play quarterback situation where they're down to three scores early in Grobbelaar. Oh has it dropped back and throw the ball without the help. lexi against this great secondary in his past teeth. I can see a scenario where the end today we look at the numbers we like. Damn I think it all matters holidays. His game starts though. This game starts out in the way. Patrick Mahomes is rolling and the forty niners have to get out of character. We decided this the chiefs defense start to attack and now. Here's my final question because because I was talking to Marcus Spears. WHO's my guy and he says it? Patrick Mahomes wins this game. He will be counted as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time it seems like it's in the microwave life but I think that spears off to the side spirits. Join US please. You're GonNa have to answer that. Can I ask you to move a little fast. We have a set with a deep with. DVD's not defensive offensive. Lineman Patrick Mahomes win this game is he if he's the Super Bowl. MVP after being the MVP last year. What conversation we have in Monday morning get up go have a conversation stations about Patrick mahomes possibly being one of the greatest of all time to play the game? We're projecting it's not that damn difficult for you to understand what I'm saying. We're projecting we watch Lebron James Ames first couple of years in the league and we say hey. This dude is going to be one of the greatest of all time tomorrow. That's a different conversation wise. He could. We don't need to win Sunday. He's already on a trajectory to be one integrates he's been in the AFC championship. He's in a super bowl now league. MVP and his numbers this year. I impressive he's on. I trajectory deal but it seemed like with. You seem like you're getting a little scared of you back it up. You're taking yesterday. It was like he wouldn't go say true. Era Walk Me. We're not saying he's going to be in the conversation. What's my exact span? Now you're saying it will project the conversation it would be about his projection and rejected told about if we put him in the car. I know you put them in the conversation with gray. Fox's as this is how it works you go. Tom Brady Joe Montana somewhere around here. Is Patrick Mahomes not somewhere around here. Twenty years from now with my. Hey look like Louis riddick patching holes Makamba so so so you're not going out dominates the super bowl. He will be in the compensation for the WHO is the conversation right now. It's obviously Tom. Joe Joe my man Terry Bradshaw Terry Bradshaw got four Super Bowls Terry Bradshaw's only they're the same. He's got his favorite thing. You don't have to like European has changed no. It hasn't no what happens. So what happens to the Jimmy Conversation Conversation. If he was Patrick Mahomes. Who says who you say will be? The greatest of Auto Shanahan is in the greatest coach comes so let me ask you the Super Bowl. Plus a minus two and a half super bowls passionate homes career. He'll win for minimum so to say what we thought. Aaron Rodgers was going to win four or anti Herod's every every Rogers was displayed. Hey if we can have this conversation about Patrico auditees breaking up next year. Does anybody not all the Damn Dan burros that know about caps. And what Blair's ago do they bring it up next year before this pip abusive so possibly to do already be playing for second song and counter so marcus. Why he's here's the one thing that you guys should know is that I actually had the power to cut your Mike at all times and we let you keep going there but I do want to make one comment comet quickly? Your head looks great Louis. Don't don't let Ryan No. He was so he's talking about my hand movement. Clark we'll talk about that later segment. Let's do it. Let's get to it and I want to start with you rex. If we're talking about Patrick Mahomes. That is one this game. I think it's important to qualify this. He's won this game against a very talented it. 49ers defense is he in the conversation for greatest of all time in your own not right now. He's not twenty years down the road. I could see that but because I think he's the most talented guy I've ever see. Play the position but with that being said No. Here's another guy. Tom Brady is the greatest player of all time. And and if you just want to look at his regular season success is unbelievable. It's unmatched look at his playoff thing. Padma homes is Great Z.. Is is one two playoff games. Tom Brady's one thirty playoff games in six super bowls so to me no has he carried a team yes he has so no. It's not close until he wins his fifth or successful. Then you can have that conversation and look I said I think that is the greatest talent I've ever seen play play the position. It's too narrow. -bility makes a big. It's two different arguments. WHO's the most talented of all time? Maybe in WHO's the great. The greatest of all time really goes synonymous with winning and Tom Brady. No one has ever accused of being the most talented quarterback of all time as a matter of fact when we talk about that. It's always Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers back in the day in the early eight Hundred Ninety S. Who Was it then? The greatest talent of all time may have been Dan Marino. Didn't win Cook Remember. That may have been Dan Marino when he was twenty three years old forty nine and everyone's super bowl pat needs to win and he needs to win a lot and there's no question maybe talent wise. He's up there with them. Real may have been the greatest football you've ever seen people forget about out him. Dan Marino was the man. Pat May be. He's he's on that level already as far as just being able to pass the football and look. Let's take the greatest of all time out of it because 'cause you're somebody that saw Patrick mahomes coming probably before anybody else did from the standpoint of how great he could be. What is it about him from the standpoint of yes he has the talent but he also has is that mentality and the ability to see a defense so incredibly well yeah? It's it's a instinctive vision. Andy Reid told me this. In Denver. Two years ago he said what's what's the number one thing. That really is separating from anybody else you have coaching said Lewis. He sees everything and I can't really explain why when I asked him why he makes certain throws he goes. I just saw goatee. He goes how could you see it. You weren't even looking over there. He's I just saw it happening and when you have that kind of thing you don't try and coach corral. You just let it go. And that's why he's sometimes. Okay Call A.. Place I've put the seat down and I just wanted 'cause I just know I'm about the witness something Ed. Maybe I can't coach and that is that's the beauty of the kid. All right we're going to try to track down our C. and Marcus and dominate. Because there's somewhere on the beach but either way we've got a good one coming your way in our next thirty for thirty film it's titled Vic and there's so much to this story it takes two parts part one premiers tonight at nine eastern six Pacific on ESPN and the ESPN APP and the film looks back at each chapter of Michael Vick's life from his incredible rise. Shocking fall and polarizing in return. Much more from Miami from US coming. Your way to Shawn Watson is on the verge of a huge deal with the Texans. What does that mean for Dak Prescott and Patrick Mahomes? uh-huh why that answer is very different for each player. We'll be back in moments and now another edition of obvious news from GEICO experts. Now say that wearing more clothes in the winter sure will in fact help you be warmer. We asked cold victim. Trent Patterson about this. 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Brady vs. Manning - Hey, Im Peyton | 3

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Brady vs. Manning - Hey, Im Peyton | 3

"Yeah it's September thirtieth two thousand one in in Foxborough Massachusetts the home of the New England Patriots. It's a sixty degree day at the PAT stadium located just outside of Boston and the high flying Indianapolis Colts are in town as the team's warm up on the field Tom Brady sees him in the distance. The Guy Everyone says this is the next Marino elway and Montana all rolled into one Peyton. Manning as Brady's sneaks peeks at the Colts qb oh be from across the field. It's clear to him. That Peyton is poised confident. Brady fully understands all the hype he knows. Manning has earned it brady. He hasn't seen another. QB This cool and calm and smart in the pocket. Since he watched in awe as Joe Montana commanded the niners offense in the eighties. He's with kickoff approaching. Brady sees his chance to say hi real quick. He makes eye contact with Peyton. And the two quarterbacks meet on the field before Brady even figures out how to introduce himself the future face of the NFL extends a massive right hand. He says hey. Tom Brady thinks to himself. Yeah Dude I obviously know who you are. The colts are to know and while it's still early they have the most host explosive offense in the league with Peyton leading the way the Patriots. Meanwhile are Owen to. Tom Brady and overlooks sixth. Round pick is making his first career. NFL start under center for reasons unrelated to Brady though. No pats fan wants to see Brady started quarterback today last tweak. The team's franchise quarterback drew bledsoe was hurt on a scramble against the jets. BLEDSOE's been the face of the franchise and led New England to a super bowl just a few seasons seasons ago. He's the highest paid player on the roster and now he's been replaced by an unproven backup. Sure Brady completed a handful of passes last week when Bledsoe went down but he wasn't able to secure a patriots win but today head coach. Bill Belichick has no choice. BLEDSOE is badly really injured. So it's Brady or bust. After his brief chat with peyton Brady returns to a sideline to stay loose before kick-off if he's he's at all nervous for his first start it's not showing TV cameras. Zoom in on his face just before kick-off so Tom Brady gets his first career start at the national astle football league at quarterback he saw action against the Detroit lions last season and completed. Three passes came in for duplex or last week in the fourth quarter. Tell us about what does he bring to. The table watchmen practice. Friday made all the throws has strong enough arms to hit that out route and really feels. Confident Beck. Wasn't nervous at all. It was kind of surprised Eh. I play he takes a sack soon. Though after a few plays he settles down in part due to a simplified playbook doc coach Belichick doesn't need him to win the game he just doesn't want him to lose. It Brady manages his way through a few unremarkable. Plays but then something happens on the other side of the field Peyton. Manning starts struggling with New England's defense he throws an interception that the pats return earn for a touchdown early on and then it gets worse before it gets better for now trailing thirty seven in the fourth quarter. Peyton knows that this this embarrassment of a game is on him and convinces himself that he needs a big play to turn things around. He trusts his arm and nose. indies coaches do too two so he lets it rip again. Downfield the Peyton snaps office Chinstrap and trots off the field with his head head down soon mercifully for him. The game is over in the first matchup of manning versus Brady the Patriots win in a blowout forty four to thirteen that underdog kid who nobody wanted. Well he put forth a clean workmanlike effort. And just got the better of one of the game's James Best and most promising quarterbacks and it's not just a single win it's the start of an all time. NFL rivalry sports. Wars is brought to you by capital. One you know how it feels when you've saved enough for that long-awaited home edition now. Imagine saving enough for an addition on that addition. That's the feeling with capital one. Where a new savings account earns five times times? The national average capital one is helping you earn more towards your savings goals. This is banking reimagined. What's in your Wallet Capital One? NA member FDIC from wondering. I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports in our previous episode. We look back can help Peyton. Manning used his bravado to sell himself to the colts as being worthy of of the NFL draft first overall pick and how he then struggled against NFL. Defense is as a rookie. We also looked at Tom. Brady's growth at Michigan as he became a very good college quarterback which still made him a marginal NFL prospect though still confident enough to sell himself as a historically great decision to the big boss of the Patriots in this episode. We'll dive deeper into how Tom Brady became the NFL's greatest winner by his mid twenties. And how peyton manning consistently lead the colts to great regular seasons only to struggle when the lights are brightest. I this is episode three pay. I'm Payton it's February. Second two thousand two. At the Superdome New Orleans the Patriots are here in the crescent city looking for their first super bowl. Victory in Franchise Chai's history but just a half hour before kick-off their starting quarterback is asleep. Just four months ago Tom Brady was was a backup. Who Know Pats fan wanted to see leading the team since taking over for injured starter drew bledsoe in week? Three though Brady has evolved from a no name backup backup to the team's unlikely savior including the postseason. He's thirteen and three as the starter and that includes some clutch dramatic playoff wins under his belt to get here today right now. He is sleeping soundly on the floor of the Patriots Locker Room. His teammates are tiptoeing around him. Not Looking talking to disrupt whatever it is. That's been working for this kid. These past few weeks in his first career playoff game brady led the pats to one of the most dramatic winds in. NFL history in a driving snowstorm at home brady rushed for a six yard touchdown in spike the ball forcefully in the snow. Stay with me boys. He's here on the sidelines just like he did as the Comeback Kid at Michigan his New England teammates did stick with him and followed his lead. With what some Also considered to be a lucky break with the controversial referee ruling late to take down the Oakland raiders the following week a win over the steelers steelers the AFC championship game propelled New England to the Super Bowl but it came at a price brady hurt his ankle during the game and it was drew bledsoe. Who is is needed relief to seal the victory? Suddenly pats coaches not to mention fans in the media had an unexpected debate should the patriots role with Brady or Bledsoe in the Super Bowl. Brady made sure the answer was easy. He's prepared an ankle. Sprain isn't going to keep him out of the biggest game of his life. He told coach Belichick that default normal that he's been ready for this game his entire life after seeing Brady looked sharp in practice L. A.. Check made his decision decision. He gave his young quarterback the not so now with fewer than fifteen minutes until kickoff and Brady still dozing on the floor. A nervous equipment equipment manager gives the starting quarterback little nudge. He tells them Tom. We've got like twelve minutes until kickoff. You should really put your pads on. Get out there. If you don't mind Brady stands up and Hustles to get his pads and Jersey on he can hear the noise of the pre-game nonsense coming through the walls and wonders when they can just get get to the football. The Patriots are huge underdogs against the offensive juggernaut. That is the saint. Louis Rams and Brady knows it. He's been hearing it all week as he walks out toward the field can tell this crowd is going to be allowed and probably rooting for the other guys. The rams offense is known as the greatest show on turf and they're led by quarterback. Kurt Warner Warner went. undrafted out of college much more overlooked than Brady and then earned this shot the NFL by playing in the arena football league and NFL Euro. This year he threw for over forty eight hundred yards thirty six touchdowns and won the League's League's MVP award. He was also backup thrust into action when the starter went down injured as soon as he makes his way to the field. Brady Sees Warner warming warming up. The spirals to his receivers are tight. And he's got a quiet confidence about him that Brady's only seen a few times since he's been in the NFL Brady also also sees the rams other stars warming up wide. Receivers Torry Holt. And Isaac Bruce Look incredibly. Graceful Warner is hitting them perfectly in stride during pre-game drills then there's all pro running back Marshall Faulk looks like he's gliding while carrying the ball faulk has led the league in yards per rush. These past has three seasons and was the second running back in. NFL history to finish with over a thousand yards rushing and receiving in the same season Brady knows that he doesn't have have a single player on his offense anywhere near these guys nobody. He's passing two headed anywhere near the hall of fame. He's not alone in being in awe. Aw of the rams. Nobody is giving the Patriots a shot to win the game especially not the odds makers in Vegas. The rams are a fourteen point favorite which is such an astronomical super bowl spread that even the players who normally ignore the bedding side of things. Can't help but feel slighted motivated especially Tom Brady. Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen and welcome to Super Bowl thirty six the pats jump on the rams early returning an interception for a defensive touchdown. New England is up seven three late in the first half with thirty. Six seconds is left in the half. Brady and the pats the ball as the clock ticks down there on Saint Louis eight yard line trying to score another touchdown before halftime. Here's is Brady back at Halftime Brady has new England up fourteen to three three. He's thirty minutes away from completing his miracle season and winning his first Super Bowl but the league's MVP. Kurt Warner is determined termine to lead the rams back and he does leading to touchdown drive in the fourth quarter with less than two minutes to play. The score is tied hi to seventeen. Tom Brady gets the ball back with just over a minute. Remaining the guy who had to fight for playing time at Michigan who almost didn't get drafted the quarterback who got his shot as an NFL starter only after his team starting. QB went down injured. Tom Brady now has his chance to live out a lifelong dream and win the Super Bowl in the final seconds brady just needs to gain enough yards to give Adam Viteri New England's all pro kicker a chance to win with a field goal with twenty nine seconds left. The Comeback Kid makes play of his life Brady again the Brown and he gets out of pounds and they might be in the rain. Brady then calmly spikes the ball to stop the clock play later and breeds sigh of relief knowing he did his job as he runs off the field to turn it over to his kicker for the wind kicked his on the way and it is part in the superdome is madness as confetti streams down on the field viteri came came up huge but brady is the true hero. Cameras cut from players two coaches and then settle on Brady. He's hugging drew. bledsoe the Guy I replaced as they celebrate together Brady is shouting enjoy. BLEDSOE shouts back. This is on you twelve. You did it. You are the man Tom Tom Brady is one of those guys will have to get ready for a game. And it looks like your head to finish a game at twenty four years years old brady becomes the youngest quarterback to ever lead his team to a superbowl win. The Patriots are now his team he may not have the Glamour Moore the stats or the name recognition peyton manning but he has the most important thing in the game a championship ring. It's three years later. January eighteenth two thousand four. It's freezing and wet in foxborough today. Peyton manning and his colts are in town to take on Tom Brady and the Patriots in the AFC championship game. Manning is coming off his finest regular season season in the NFL and he's named league MVP after throwing for over forty two hundred yards and twenty nine touchdowns and a career low to this point point ten interceptions. He's now just two wins away from capping off a great statistical season with the thing. He wants most a ring. The problem is his competition. The pats beat the colts in the regular season a couple months earlier in a thirty eight to thirty four thriller peyton threw four touchdown passes but again Tom Brady was able to do enough to leave. New England. The shootout win. It's become maddening. Thing for Peyton. He does everything he can to pile up points but he just can't seem to get by Brady in the pats also since New England's Comeback Kid one that super bowl he has been the talk of the League Payton has definitely heard the media comparing the former sixth rounder to him and he is unhappy about it but even he admits the guy can play today. The Patriots are a slim favourite according to the experts. Predicting the Game New England is is very tough at home and Peyton knows that he'll need something extra to beat Brady and the pats in the dead of the northeast winter. This is their first playoff meeting so during the TV pregame shows hosts are harping on the same themes over and over again. There's a lot of brady as the youngest. QB To ever win a ring. Meanwhile Peyton can't seem to win the big one or really even get there. He never went to high school. State title Louisiana Tennessee. He was Oh and four against against the VOL's biggest rival Florida to this point in the NFL. He's over three against Brady in their matchups. It's all anyone in. The media. Seems to highlight Peyton is jealous of Brady for more than just his early. NFL success. It's clear that all of this outside noise doesn't get to Brady. It seems Brady's eighties. Never cared about what. The media's loud voices have to say about him and he's proven them wrong anytime he's been doubted for Peyton it's easier said than done as he hasn't been able to ignore them as easily as Payton. Watches Brady's offense take the field. He senses that it could be a long day for the colts. Defense Defense the natural grass field and Foxborough is damp and there are light. Snow flurries in the air. Brady though looks like he's lounging in his own. Living Room the weather isn't an issue for the kid who played at Michigan Brady is surgical on the opening. Drive calmly showing what nobody saw coming a few years ago as he hits his receivers reverse with pinpoint accuracy. Easy touchdown for Tom Brady. The pressure is immediately back on Peyton now and he knows it. Payton has been red hot in this playoff run. Thus far completing nearly eighty percent percent of his passes with eight touchdown passes two zero interceptions. He's aware of his playoff stats. But after Brady's pats quickly established a seven point lead he knows the question everyone will be asking after the game if he again comes up short will he only be regular season superstar and never actually take acres colts to the Super Bowl. On Indy's opening possession peyton his cruiser. It only takes a few place for him to get his team to the New England five yard headline but then the momentum shifts running out of time towards the end zone interceptor Rodney Harrison and on his second possession Payton's nightmares against the Patriots continuing now the Payton knows he forced it. He shakes his head in frustration as he makes his way to the colts bench. Giving the ball back to braiding from there air it only gets worse for Indie as the Pats keep rolling and the snow keeps falling by the end of the game. Manning has thrown four. That's right four interceptions perceptions and again is on the losing end in a potentially career altering moment as he shakes brady's hand while surrounded by a crush of reporters swarming being the field. Peyton can't help but to be again jealous of his new rival. They both through for exactly two hundred and thirty seven yards but Payton Eaton made mistake after mistake trying to win the game on every throw as the game's best gunslinger Brady was patient and workman like as he put the pats in position position for the trustee Viteri to kick five field goals to pace. New England's win two weeks later Brady starts another super bowl and is again celebrated it as clutch while Payton's reputation as a postseason choke artists only continues to grow. Manning knows he's now over four against Brady Eighty and he could soon be down to nothing in what matters most super bowl wins. It's a New Year so if you're hiring and you WANNA keep growing your team you need the right tools to help. Keep your hiring streamlined and efficient. That's where's ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash. 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Manning is at home with his family watching the Super Bowl in which he knows he should be playing. He can't in good conscious root for Brady to put even more distance between them by beating the Carolina Panthers but Payton knows his rival will come through in crunch time. There's now six minutes left in the game and the PATs Trail Carolina by one when Brady gets the ball. Captain Comeback is back in championship mode. Owed Peyton leans over to buddy as they sipped ears. Man I know that look. He's got this with just under three minutes. Left Brady finds his third option on the play a linebacker. In at tight end for a touchdown. Throw the job by Tom. Brady new New England now leads by seven after a successful two point conversion but the panthers are resilient and fight back they tie the game with just over a minute left. Payton can feel his heart racing just watching on TV. He knows a minute is a year for Tom. Brady the guy just has it at the end of games on third and three with just fifteen seconds left in the game brady throws a perfect pass near the sideline to receiver dion branch who catches it at the Panther. Twenty twenty four yard line setting up a field goal for the game in the Super Bowl title. The normally unflappable pats kicker Adam Vinatieri trots onto the field. He's already missed a thirty one yard field goal and had another blocked today. That can't happen again. Canet his luck has to turn around at some point. Doesn't it Viteri lines up for the win from forty one yards out. The New England Patriots claimed their second championship in three years. We've talked about it in this era free agency and that's as close to a dynasty as you're ever going to oh brady is again named the MVP after throwing for three hundred fifty four yards and three touchdowns standing in front of his couch. Drink Lincoln hand with family all around him. Payton has no choice but to give respect where it's do compared to Manning Brady still isn't the better passer but he damn sure his the better winner Payton then grows restless knows he needs to find a way to somehow go through Brady in the pats or this. This is where he'll keep watching super bowl after super bowl his couch at home. It's January two thousand five a year since Tom Brady and the PAT spoiled Peyton Manning's dreams of playing in the Super Bowl. Peyton manning is near. The colts sideline finishing enough his checklist of pregame routines. It started almost ninety minutes ago when he took the field. Early to throw warm-up passes to a couple receivers now he's loosening listening his arm inspecting the grip on game balls and quietly running himself through the offensive playbook. He's long since memorized. He came into the League hyped as the next big thing in part because of his obsessive preparation but seven years into a stellar career. A Super Bowl ring has still eluded him last years lost to Brady and the pats was especially hard on Peyton. It was supposed to be his big breakthrough moment. So today he's tight as he throws to his receivers pre-game he then looks across the field and sees Tom Brady deep in his own. Pre Game Rituals Brady is one of the few. QB's that prepares as has obsessively as Payton. There's something about him that manning still can't quite pinpoint but he looks to be in total control as if nothing in the world bothers him. What does he have that? I don't thinks Peyton but then he tries to shake off the thoughts and focus on what matters today. He's going to get the best of the Patriots and flip. How people view him and Tom Brady? This YEAR'S AFC divisional playoff game in Foxboro is in typically cold conditions. Twenty five degrees and a wind chill at about sixteen degrees. Snow is expected during the game. It's been another. MVP SEASON FOR PEYTON manning his second in a row. Oh and this season Peyton broke Dan. Marino's record his idols record for touchdown passes in a season with forty nine. It's a record that stood for twenty ears despite putting together his best season in seven years in the NFL. There was that constant blemish peyton fell to Owen five against the guy who can't stop winning. Tom Brady the game kicks off and a sixth straight loss is all Payton can think about his offense keeps stalling out the colts punt on their first four possessions. They can't seem to get anything going on the sloppy field into the second half Brady shows. He's the games best winner late in the third quarter on the run. He Rifles in the first touchdown pass began the Peyton. Manning is stunned in days on the other side and halfway halfway through the fourth quarter Brady ices again. We're back in straight ahead from the one yard line. Brady dives ahead touchdown go as Brady. Emphatically spikes the ball on the snowy field at Foxboro. The crowd erupts. Hate me just looks into the distance again damage. Thanks paid the twenty to three patriots. Win Improves Brady's record in the playoffs to a perfect seven. Oh and it's six in a row for Brady over Peyton. Manning makes a point to find gradient offer respectful handshake of the game. Not much needs to be Said said but you never skip this step of things things Payton. He's just got my number and now another win for the Patriots Means Brady will get the chance to to win his third super bowl in four years the stats awards and popularity may belong to Peyton but the most important currency and football winds still belongs to Brady. Payton knows that something has to change on this team and it's probably him if he doesn't steal what's working for Brady. Aw He'll never beat him. It's February six two thousand five in Jacksonville Florida. The scene is getting all too familiar for football fans the Patriots and Tom Brady in the super bowl this time. His his opponent at quarterback is a man from his past eagles. QB Donovan mcnabb in College mcnabb led Syracuse into Michigan Stadium. And they blew out. Brady's Wolverines Imma Game Brady was benched for drew Henson further fueling the QB controversy that shaped his career at U. of M. Brady radio hasn't forgotten and today he wants payback as a rational and emotional as he knows that is in recent years Brady and his pets have been going into big games as heavy favorites. There's no more underdog status for number twelve. He's expected now to win but he keeps CBS telling himself otherwise any enemy even a contrived. One needs to be crushed. The Patriots defense is stifling and Brady Eighty is solid as always he connects with Receiver Dion Branch Eleven Times a super bowl record and New England holds on to win for the third time and for years the New England Patriots will be the First Dynasty of the twenty-first Century Brady shares the spotlight with branch whose name Super Bowl. 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Hour 2 - Glenn Ordway (12-10-19)

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Hour 2 - Glenn Ordway (12-10-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance the like extra money in your pocket. Do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up. This is a way to do it. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. Hey that's GEICO DOT com broadcasting from the Mercedes man cake this is Dan Patrick our two on this Tuesday Dan and the Danettes. Dan Patrick Show. Oh covered a lot of ground in the first hour of the program. Check tune with Tom. Curran who covers the Patriots. Yep got another controversy here. It's it's not a good look here. If you have a production crew under the title Craft Productions Robert Kraft and you're doing a feature feature on scout and advance scout and you have a videographer. Who is filming some things? Maybe the bibliographer is inexperienced unaware of the previous issues that the Patriots have had in this category. And now all of a sudden the commissioner is GonNa WanNa talk to somebody and drop the hammer here. I have a hard time believing bill knows nothing about this. I really do because these coaches certainly that coach it feels like has fingerprints on on everything that goes on in the organization maybe not to this degree but if you factor in just how meticulous. He is with detail part of his genius. Is he knows a loophole here. He knows a rule that you didn't know about like He. He knows these things now. I'm GONNA go now. I probably didn't know anything about out this that. You're going to do a feature on your advanced scout and you videotape something and you know nothing to see here here is bill. Belichick on W. ee. Yeah I hear us a weekly radio program where he Says he didn't know anything about this. Evidently this is our production people on the TV. The show that were there and we have absolutely nothing to do. We have absolutely nothing to do with anything that they produce direct or or shoot or anything. I've never even seen any of their tapes or anything anything else. So this is something that we've one hundred percent have zero involvement with this is something that you'd have to talk to the production people about what they were doing or whatever it was so was this your exam. We've never seen anything that they shot of them. What's going on TV? All right bill check went on to say they're incomplete compliance with the rules again from football stamp. We absolutely know what the rules are. And we are one hundred percent in compliance the best of my knowledge of every single rule that were responsible for what another part of the organization does or doesn't do as part of their whether it's game presentation presentation and or TV shows or stuff. Like I mean I have no idea what that is okay. I'll make everybody available. Because he said you have to talk to them but he says this and usually the Patriots. Don't make anybody available colluding. They're assistant coaches here but pleading ignorance doesn't cut it as a defense for the Patriots but are what's on the tape. What did the scout you know? Tell did he know should he have known. There's a few questions questions that the commission will have here. I don't know if this is one of those where they're going to find him of five hundred thousand dollars or take away draft pick here but with the Patriots. You can't plead ignorance. That won't work because you probably you know pleaded ignorance before in situations and I still go back to when Tom Tom Brady was first told about deflate gate. He laughed the charge. He laughed about it and then we saw what happened with that. Not that this is going to be a deflategate or a spy gate part two two point. Oh any of those things but it's the Patriots. Yes mclovin I would take a fine and draft. PICKS ISN'T ENOUGH I. I would think like maybe a suspension for a year for Belgium like Peyton. Because I mean this is to come back to spike it. If they really did this which I I kinda doubt that that'd be fine and draft. Pick would be no impact at all. They have a million draft picks. You would punish him the way the NFL punished. I wouldn't but I think the NFL found knowing the NFL. Like you can't go a second offense on spy gate would be massive. It was really spy dating what they were doing. But don't you think it'd be have been what difference. What a fine rain and picks me I? I don't know what they can do. I don't know what the commissioner would feel like would be the best interest of the NFL like what is the the right punishment. We don't even know what's on the tape here Ao. Exactly like I I. I don't want to go all the way down on the road where we go. You know what they should suspend Bella check for a year. I I don't know what's on the tape. It might not be anything. It might be an honest mistake here. I know that that's not good content for radio or TV but for me. That's what I'd have to look at. I have a hard time with pleading ignorance here. That doesn't mean that they're guilty but at bill belichick saying he knows nothing about about it. They've never seen anything with the videotape. I find that really surprising because of his attention to detail I would feel like bill. Belichick knows what is going on with the entire organization. Yes mclovin but by looking back at a year for Sean Payton was terrible. That was unfair. You you see the report where the cowboys are still interested in. Sean Payton like Jerry Jones is and if you can find that mclovin so I can give somebody the the credit on the air. WHO's reporting this? But Jerry Jones has long loved Sean Payton and I thought Payton was GONNA leave there a couple years ago to go to the cowboys and then he signed the extension attention. Because I didn't know brees and Sean we're going to still be together in New Orleans and I thought that he was GonNA end up in Dallas so nothing would surprise me but he just signed a contract extension here. Yeah I'm a club I think. That's from John Machado. The athletic reported. That Sean Payton would be among the list of cat. That's what I'm finding. There might be other reports as well. This program brought to you by continental tire proud to be the exclusive tire. The Dan Patrick Show no matter where you drive. What you drive how you drive? They Abi Tire for you at Continental Donald Tire Dot Com Eagles. beat Eli and the giants in overtime and it was. It was good to see. Eli have a you know a couple of good moments. It's there but then. The giants acted like the giants and the Eagles finally acted like the eagles in the second half and overtime picked up the win. The heisman finalist are are in Jonesboro. Justin fields jalen hurts and chase young and I think this is a great representation. I think those are the four players that and it's GonNa be a landslide for Joe Borough but I still think you celebrate college football. You get those as many worthy candidates there air as possible. Because it's a celebration here we know. Joe Boroughs winning the Heisman. But this is a way that you get to see chase young get interviewed Justin and fields get a chance. Jalen hurts gets another curtain call. You know I think it's great for college football but you know the LSU quarterbacks. I had incredible numbers and has been big in every game so this is a mere formality. Defensive players rarely get a fair look and certainly when you think about today's Day and age justin fields has thrown. I think one interception this year it. It's really really really hard for a defensive player to make an impact impact. I think he has that right mclovin. He's thrown forty touchdowns one interception. Yeah how many pictures Joe Borough have very few view. He's right behind him. But you start to look at some of these primarily primary defensive players that have finished in the top. Five for the HEISMAN. You can go back to WHO Ted Hendricks the men's store nineteen sixty eight Mike. Reid played for Penn state drafted by the bengals. Nineteen sixty nine rich glover was at Nebraska. Nose Guard Ross. Browner Notre Dame Hugh Green finished second in one thousand nine hundred eighty. Terry Hogue really talented defensive back for Georgia. I think played eight for the eagles. Brian Bosworth he finished fourth Steve Cohen. Who might have been the most dominating player I saw that year? Nineteen ninety-one with Washington Marvin Jones at Florida State Charles Woodson. He won the heisman. Donald can sue tyron Matthew Manto Anti Tayo. Finished runner-up and Djibril peppers was in the top. Five is well. Yes well. If you remember Michigan let Charles Woodson returned kicks return punts and catch a few passes and that put him over the top and I know it's very unlikely but if they would have done that with chase young this year I'd put tight end for a handful of tight goal. Line plays and and got him two or three touchdowns or something like that. They need a gimmick to push over the top. And and that's what won it for Desmond. Howard Tim Brown won the heisman because he return kicks he was a good wide receiver at Notre Dame? He didn't put up great numbers. Because Notre Dame wasn't but probably primary primarily only a passing team. There are running team. You Know Rocket Ismail you need to have something that's unique with this I think. LSU has a player next year Stanley mclovin the junior. Yeah the defensive back. Yeah if I'm now not that ED or Zaranj going to go. I want you to win the heisman. I think if you now he might be as good as any corner that you have in college football football right now as a freshman does return kicks. Well I would. I would probably put him wide receiver. I'd have two way player. I think he's that talented. And you might have one of those two way players that he might have a chance. And that's Darrell Stanley's grandson and I think he's a true freshman but he's he's special. Yes mclovin how good are LSU defensive backs. I mean it's crazy because they're too and you know Jamal Adams uh-huh and tiny bat. Yeah they've they've had. Some Patrick Peterson may have had some wonderful players there. But then this sting Lee is a special special player and he might have a chance to play offense and defense all right poll question from the first hour mclovin. We're going to stay with it. We could switch it up most valuable skill players not not a quarterback and surprisingly Christian. McCaffrey one okay. I mean He. The problem is the panthers aren't a winning team. So does he fit in that. Would you give it to him. Michael Thomas Real. We'll know not over Michael Thomas and where would you put Terry Kill analyst. He he's there I haven't seen the value with him this year. Like I did last year and he was injured but I he he might be one of those guys once you get to the postseason you go. Oh Gosh that's right you know. He is special Michael. Thomas is doing this weekend weekend so I I would say. And their offense isn't what it was last year when you had ingram in there with Chimera. He's been great and everybody knows he's getting the ball. He's still getting ten catches a game. I would say he would be the guy that I would put put in there. You're going to go with an hour to Po- poly as a that is I'll let you share. If he's I don't even want to say it but it's so good okay. This is a somewhat serious poll question. If you were Robert Kraft Patriots owner and you can make magic wand and go back and make it so one of these. Three scandals never happened the current filming accusations the deflategate accusations agents. I guess you can throw spy gate in there as well or the massage parlor accusations remember deflate gate cost you a first rounder epic are you is about yours about the team. Come on magic one this one pardon the Pun. I'm I'm going to. I'm going to magic one. The massage Parlor I. I'm so wrong answer. No I don't think so. I think the floodgates one you want to come back Brady and you didn't back up your team. And you sided with the commissioner and took punishment I have. I had great information on this. That that Robert Kraft thought by saying to the Commissioner. Hey you were guilty of this. That he was going to be more lenient. Like time served here and all of a sudden Brady realizes he's not sticking up for me and and the commissioner came down hard on boy that's A. That's a snarky poll question. They're yes there's just something so Damning or damaging to one's reputation than the Massage thing because if you're a billionaire right and he's like he's driving around in a Rolls Royce all this stuff right. You don't expect that he's going to the local Mini Mall Down the street man of the people right next to the vacant aching video store rental place and doing that. There's a subway pizza hut massage parlor. Right yeah you don't think that he's a Nilsson so you know what I mean. And what do you mean you Robert Kraft. YOU'RE A billionaire. You don't do that. Yes well I I disagree. I think the average person out there was not that bothered about about Robert Kraft and you were bothered. When people cheat at sports you remember the old scene and The original longest yard where Paul crew. Burt Reynolds goes to prison and and and he's talking to a caretaker and he goes boy. You Shave points in a football game because that's sacrilegious down here because you could kill someone you could run over something new you mess with football or he was like. That's that's the worst crime in the prison David in San Antonio joins US David when you have for me today. Hi Dana Point about the video case. Scandal I think that regardless of whether this crew did this guy breaking the rules or not. After the first scandal concluded the Patriots had a responsibility to train. Anybody that picks up a camera that's associated with the Patriots that these are the rules. And if you break these rules you broke the rules. It doesn't matter whether they knew it or not. Yeah I think the sensitivity. Thank you David the sensitivity of videotaping anything anything as somebody who is affiliated with the Patriots whether fulltime employees whether your contract out to be videographer that you would you would get a handbook. That would say by the way. Do's and don'ts if you're in a stadium with a camera and you're working for the New England patriots in some way we shape or form absolutely ABS- Yes he meanwhile the replay people still can't figure out what videoed anyhow sidebar. uh-huh shift the blame anyway. Pass interference. I remember just two days ago when the Patriots cover up speaking a bad video. What's going on New York these days? Deflecting SEATON's deflect deflect gate deflect it. That's my new podcast. Actually coming out. It's called the Gate Affleck. Here's why you're all wrong. Glenn Ordway Great Radio Host in Boston. He's going to join us he he has a weekly radio show that he does with bill. Belichick isn't it amazing. How Crisp belichick sounds when he's being interviewed on this radio show so by somebody he likes and I'm assuming probably gets paid handsomely to be on W. e. e.? I just listened to Bella check now. We normally no billion on tons of swollen. His words a little bit Lincoln's but he's talking to Glenn Ordway who I think he considers a friend. And here's Bill Belichick. Evidently this is yes. our production people on the TV show that were there and we have absolutely nothing to do. We have absolutely nothing to do with anything that they produced director or shoot or anything. I've never even seen any of their tapes or anything else. So this is something that we one hundred percent have zero involvement with. This is something that you'd have to talk to the production people about what they were doing whatever it was so was this your. We've never seen anything that they've shot of them. What's going on TV while you're about to see it? I want I'd like to juxtapose this too. When Bell Checketts in front of the media does he have to meet with them today? I think Brady's today is that right right. I think Tuesdays are when the coach gets there and see if he elaborates like he did on the radio show there but yes mclovin. Everyone's take on the Cincinnati into natty. This is after they lost last week. Everybody was joking onto Cincinnati even Brady said then. I've afraid who is a patriots fans. It's like this exactly what we need to rally. Thank I know you know what you need to rally the team some talent that would help. Not all they're coming after US again. got a scandal. Oh here you're not. You're you're not the second coming of the greatest show on turf. UNC Lots of people pointing out that. Well we'll we'll wait a minute what I thought you guys didn't eat talent. Komo Tom Brady was the guy who turned average wireless resort to Hall of Famers mclovin. That wasn't that your knock on Brady and the Patriots. Well we'll see those uh when they win the Super Bowl my argument will be. I have a friend who's his swearing in me. The Patriots are throwing these Games against AFC contenders a lot of people are chatter about this like. Yeah they plain vanilla defenses against the Texans the Ravens and the chief so three thieves. They lost they're not shown. You really believe that. No although I do I wonder if there are a few tricks that he saving his sleeve for Lamar Jackson because he didn't try anything against them last time. No I don't believe it but I don't know the Patriots I I just feel like he's such a step ahead I I don't think he's that far ahead that he's GonNa throw these Games and not show you what is defensive. Schemes are because is. He's waiting until the postseason exactly what he wants. I know the salary CAP era. When you win? This many super bowls you are two steps ahead of the rest of us. There's gotta be something. I think. It's an advantage for them that you know just from this the defensive part of this equation they lost these games. James they know what these teams do. And now you are better prepared for Lamar Jackson. They already know who Patrick Mahomes. And they know who to Shawn Watson is Lamar. Jackson was the great mystery. All right if they face them the next time is it going to be in Baltimore and if it is what kind of defense now. I know. This is what I heard yesterday. Hey by the way you should have brought up that Buffalo kind of had a game plan to shut down Lamar Jackson. I said well you have to have the pieces in place that that Buffalo has. That's a really good defensive line that helped but not everybody has that we got the blueprint here. Okay then Heathrow for three touchdowns. He didn't beat you with his legs. He did beat you and he didn't play great but he still won I. We'll take a break here. We'll come back phone calls. And and Reggie Miller will join us a little bit later on got a little bit more information here on the Patriots video and Glenn Ordway the radio host out of the Boston W. E. who has weekly radio show with Bill Belichick. He will join US coming up next year. Twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Are you man of a forty. A word about your blood pressure nitro boost a new natural formula boosts nitric oxide levels which naturally maintains healthy blood pressure levels and boost Lido in sexual chill performance for men safely. And naturally it's true both your blood pressure and sexwale performance are linked to better blood flow and circulation dozens of clinical studies. These are out there that prove this nitro boost has worked for men across this great country to support healthy blood pressure support energy production and you know what maintain healthy sexual will function as well call now to try nitro boost risk free. That's risk free for a limited time. 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The field coaches coaches make signals for plays. It's not an over the shoulder of the advanced scalp. who was doing his job stuff? This is shooting the sideline for an extended period at the time. The egregious nature videos. Why it's set off the firestorm? It did during the game with the bengals executives in the press box the the account doesn't totally reflect the patriots side of the story. Springing Glenn Ordway Great Radio Host W. E. E.. I in Boston has his regular weekly visit with Bill Bell Check and he joins us now. Glen thanks for joining us. what do you make of this. Well here's what I make of it. Dan one. The bill belichick was adamant yesterday. And you as you know. That's not necessarily his style. Downplay stuff low key it. Because he doesn't want to talk about it he wanted to talk about it There was no question the other thing I can tell you from sources within the Patriots Organization is they know they we screwed up internally but it was not the football operations department so as you know these football teams now. They become marketing giants. And they've got their own. Oh content departments production departments and so it was something outside of the football operation. But I've talked to somebody who has actually Knowledge of what he's on that St Card and way it was described to me. It is longer than eight minutes on the sideline. I don't know the exact time limit on it. But but what they did is they sat down with the scout before the game. They asked him exactly what he does. They're doing a whole series of these. They did one on their trainer. Jim whalen earlier when the year. And they're doing it so their production comedy so they sit down with the Scout. They say what are you looking for a while. I'm looking for personnel changes and when they are going to change personnel so they got a bunch of information from him as to what his job is and then they set a fixed camera on a tripod. Set it up and tried I to go and get B.. Roll for each one of those things that he claimed he watches for so. I'm sure the week is going to see that tape. And they're gonNA see a lot of the sideline because that's what a scout does. The question is was it done for football purposes or was it done for production ATV production so the teams you know digital Wing of the organization the NFL is going to have to determine that. But can you plead ignorance. Can that be your defense here here. And then the commissioner might show some leniency. I don't think it's ignorance a matter of fact I'm here in just the opposite from people within the Patriots Organization not the football operation is denying everything as Bella check did yesterday on my show their deny get onto perspective. There's nothing about it. I'm hearing from other people that the Yes yes. They went out of their way to set up their crew in Cincinnati. In this for this game in Cleveland they worked with Cleveland to do it. They're pleading that they should've had much closer wraps on it. They shouldn't have allowed it to just happen. They should've gone through. What is the protocol you you are? We going to get a shelf into trouble. And let's face it there. There's a reputation with the organization. They need to be are you are. Are you sure a little bit but you know Bill Belichick pretty well the fact that he showed at this. I don't know if that's anger. Callup said he was like. How much do you read into that? Knowing what his personality is a lot I I was thoroughly convinced them. It was the first question I was going to ask him when he walked into the studio I can tell a lot of times from him knowing wing him for over twenty years dealing with him you know if he wants to talk about something or not. I was thoroughly convinced that bill knows nothing thing about it now. I also was convinced that bill knows this is not a good thing for the organization. He knows the way it's GonNa be perceived nationally the way it's going to be played up. I mean first of all if you if you going to sell scout and you're going to cheat would you do it against the Cincinnati bengals. Why wouldn't you do it against Kansas City the last week or Baltimore a few weeks ago dear? Second of all. If you're going to do it why would you do it with somebody. That's wearing patriot. Paraphernalia and one of the cameramen apparently was wearing Boston. Bruins Paraphernalia you snake. Somebody in the stands you get fixed camera. You got four K.. Stuff in your iphones now and you have all the information you need. It makes sense. Maybe they just got caught this time around Glen. Well you know anything. That's because I just think that this is one of those. It's going to look really bad. So if you say that the Patriots cheaters in the past just if you more ammunition and obviously to me. It doesn't seem like they did anything wrong. Is it possible I will say this if the NFL sits down watches that video on the card and these three hours of a fixed camera on the sideline. Then they're probably gonNA throw a heavy fine or draft picks or something with the New England the Patriot if the if the NFL can't tell the difference between footage that is used to apply to the to the game versus the be roll. They used for television production. Then something's wrong. I gotTA believe they're going to be able to figure it out. Could this be a good thing for the Patriots No have you watched this You now I'm hearing that. Oh this is going to rally the Patriots. Usually when they're cheating they're winning super bowls. I tell you what you can find a a new tight end anywhere talent. If you can find like a couple of receivers maybe Antonio Brown bring him back then. Maybe you could fix this thing. I me offensively. They are really challenge. Special teams and defense is Great. It reminds me of the Fritzy two thousand fifteen Denver Broncos you know they had the great defense their offense sucked peyton. Manning was re really at the end. Actually Tom Brady right now is I. Put playing a lot better than Payton. We played that year and yet Denver won it. What do you make of what Tom Curren reported about? Brady that kind of land the breadcrumbs down that you could see a mutual partying here. Bella check makes that decision to say you know what we're moving onto another quarterback here next season. Yeah I I think anything is possible with Bill Belichick because he is not going anywhere. I would not be surprised to see bill coach for another five years. He's got his sons in the operation. Right now I I think it's like the Shanahan family and others before but you know they're they're GonNa Continue The coaching legacy so I don't think he's going anywhere as you know. Tom Is is excellent. Tom Covering is excellent at the stuff. He's got real tight tie INS with the Brady family but I think it all comes down to the Patriots. I think it's the Patriots. Want Tom Brady back sack. Tom Brady is back if the Patriots don't. I don't think Tom Brady's dumpling football. I really don't Dan I think he wants to play for at least forty five. I think he's still believes believes he can do it. He's having fun even with all these young people around him. He seems to be energized by it. I think he'll play for somebody else if the Patriots won't don't have them but I find it hard to believe that the Patriots are going to move on without Tom Brady because I don't see a quarterback anywhere. This kid can't do it. They traded Garoppolo way. Where's the quarterback Eli Manning Like hey how did you get Bella. Check to agree to do. Weekly radio. Show Well I learned from you you. You're persuasive you working angle able to do whatever they want you do it all the time. Yeah L. I I've been asked before if I've ever met Bill Belichick and I always tell them there's a I was only around him one time we've never had him on. But I think it was the night the bud fumble and he walked out onto the field and I was with Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee and so he shakes their hands. And I'm the next guy in line but I don't put my hand out too far so it's not too embarrassing if he doesn't shake my hand and he just blows right by me and pull my hand back hoping that nobody saw any of that so really. Yeah but that's how you hurt by. You were hurt by that. I mean come on you've been you've been with kings. Dan Come on. I know I wasn't hurt. But even when I'm handing him a super bowl trophy it's not like you know there's any small talk there but you know I tell coach I said a low. That's I guess that's what I get. Okay well just to start your interview next week to say hey coach. Dan Patrick settle. Oh I will bring it up. Who's on Yeah Dan Patrick? He's been around a long time. Yeah exactly yeah again. It's great to talk to you. Glenn thank you buddy. That's Glenn Ordway Ordway. He's one of the King Radio Kings there in Boston W. e. y.. Two to six in the afternoon filled in on this show a few times. Yeah Venancio Great Guy. 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Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting reporting this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you. And I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page at podcast one dot com clicking the support this podcast button and they will see all our wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible. Thank you for downloading subscribing at of course supporting and now back to the show. Stephen Strasburg got paid. How long ago was it? Where member the nationals? They were on a pitch count with Stephen. Even Strasbourg. And I think it was sort of an edict from his agent Scott Boras that he wanted to make sure that the nationalist didn't overuse Stephen Strasburg and Dan. We wondered. This is eight years ago. I even said at the time. Is this one of those where Strasbourg at one point. He and his agent go. Hey thanks for not overusing me now. I'm age thirty and thirty one. I'M GONNA leave. You signed three hundred million dollar contract. It went the other way. They win the world series and it didn't feel like he was leaving and he got paid. And now Garrett Cole is really going to get paid because Garrett Cole was probably looking at a similar contract of what Strasbourg got but he's better. He's he's healthier. He's two years younger and he's probably GonNa get upwards of three hundred million dollars now. I know the angels are involved in this. It doesn't seem like that's a great game plan. I have Mike Trout and I have Garrett Cole Okay. Could we spend our money more wisely. Do I need to spend all that money Liane Garrett Cole and maybe that's what they're going to do maybe the Yankees swoop in and pick up Garrett Cole but you know the dodgers I think you're interested in Garrett Cole as well but now you know the Price Tag. Because it's it's going to be significantly more than Stephen Strasburg. But can you see if forgive your Garrett Cole and I know you went to school at. Ucla you want to get back to the west coast. If I was getting back to the west coast I'd WanNa play for the dodgers 'cause I I want on a chance to win a world series. I don't WanNa be in the bullpen. When we lose a world series I want to be on the mound? I WANNA be now if you put him in with that rotation and you're hoping the Kershaw can still be a good pitcher sometimes very good pitcher Bueller you have arms there with the dodgers but can you afford him three hundred million dollars and if you're Garrett Cole you WanNa be pitching in meaningful games or you could have pretty relaxing relaxing career there with angels where there's no real pressure. You're not playing in any big time games there but it feels like that's what we're looking at and maybe the You Know Anthony Ren dawn I know at the during the postseason it felt like some. We had an analyst on who said he thought that Brendan was going to end up with the Texas Rangers. Do you remember. I'm trying to think who said that. But you know rent may end up going back to the nationals. But I'm trying to think who it was. Maybe it was our cowboy up friend the Kevin. Yeah I think yeah take your may have said that about random going to the ranger. I haven't seen anything on that but it's just Some of the baseball stuff the hot stove going on. But the nationals lockup Stephen Strasburg and he is quietly put together for a guy who had more fanfare fanfare than any pitcher who's had in the last twenty years. I think coming into the League. He's had quietly very very successful career. See she got over one hundred wins. mclovin oh I think he. He was fastest. Fifteen hundred strikeouts over. Yeah I think it has over underwent I mean at least the possibility Scibilia Hall of fame still in the cards. I mean I'm not saying he's headed air but if he has a great next second. How long has that contract for? Was it seven years for what two hundred forty two hundred and fifty million dollars. I think something like that. Yeah poll I what you're saying with the angels. You're GONNA have all your money locked up in two players but if you already have trout why wouldn't you Garrett Cole this is the one thing keeping you a one of the things keeping you from the postseason I would actually think the opposite you'd want Garrett Cole and then you could trade Mike Trout to surround. You're pitching staff or something. I mean I know I know that both grade. Yeah but I don't I don't WanNa get Garrett Cole to then trade my trout than kind of supplement my lineup. I probably not. I'd rather keep trout and use my money elsewhere than on Garrett Cole. It feels like I'd be spending my money more wise I needed to I need to spread it around a little bit. UNC The angels were what seventy two and ninety last year. That doesn't feel like they're a player to away from figuring this out and that's why I don't want to load up the Yankees need gear coal. That feels like we need a number one starter and it's GONNA cost us but this is what we need. This is what we're missing. And you know it would behoove them that they went out and Got Garrett Cole but as far as the angels go I mean it's Nice that you get Garrett Cole but I don't know how much better it makes you. The angels pitching staff of their. Aw Top line starters the guy said the most arts oh man. I don't want to say that good guys like four and six five and six two and six seven seven four and ten. and HE I. Some phone calls here Marco in Arizona joins us. Hey Marco hey good morning ep in DANETTES I. I'm GONNA jump on your conspiratorial train here on the Patriot and You know we never can understand when Bill Bella check is speaking but when we do hear him clearly the only time I ever heard him speak so clearly was during the Aaron Hernandez case he immediately separated himself like I was out of the country. You know he made that very clear and he did the same thing with this thing. He's just like Oh we didn't know anything so I that there's something going on there. I don't know Oh exactly what but it just. It feels weird especially with the Patriots. Yeah always does with the Patriots and I can't give you plausible deniability diabilities or is this deflected because it feels like hey. I didn't know anything about these guys. Whenever use any of that video there I'd like to know what's on the tape? What are you shooting? Did you actually do a feature on your advance scout where you're videotaping him doing. Whatever he does but if you're focusing a camera on the bengals sidelines and looking at you know what their coaches saying on the sidelines? That doesn't seem like you're doing a feature on an advanced scout though that that's what I would want to know in this situation and if there's something that looks like it's a little sideways then the NFL should come down on the Patriots. Jeff in Detroit joins us. Hi Jeff Hi. What's going on Dan? Patriots sent Detroit A coach over this way but he didn't send a winning ways as with the coach. You know what I'm saying. All we lose here man. My question to you though is if you're breaking why don't you just go the money now. I mean you have been given them a hometown discount. If what good has it done. I mean nothing is coming for of this and now you're you're in the middle of all of this and I. I'm sitting here thinking. His jacket has to be made. His buses already been formed for the hall of fame. There's nothing else fluffed. Don't get that bag that money man all right. Well thank you jeff. I just don't know who's giving him a bag of money now. How many years let? Let's see the chargers. Let's let's just throw out the chargers you give two years give Brady two years. Are you giving him two years. Eighty million dollars. He's GonNa the cost you forty million dollars a year right. If that's the going rate for quarterbacks if Dak Prescott getting forty do you bring in Brady and how much much of an upgrade is brady. At some point he gets the there's diminishing returns here I mean He. He works in the Patriot system. Asto but I don't know if he is going to work in Tennessee system or Carolina's system the chargers I don't know he's got more toys with those teams but then doesn't everybody hell. The Miami Dolphins Washington redskins seemed to have more toys than the Patriots. Do Right now but I don't know if Brady goes. He's got money does he wanNA leave to then prove something like I don't. I don't know what will drive him. How he's wired? But I think that you know bill bell checks probably already made up his mind what he's GonNa do but who are. Are you putting in there are you. Are you going to get a free agent in. They're going to draft somebody. Didn't you draft somebody a couple times already. Garoppolos gone jared Steadham may visit the answer. Then what do you do you bring in Cam Newton. Yes mclovin. Didn't have good Andrew. Luck was gonNA play somewhere it actually. How about him? Well that was Florio saying that that he didn't have any Intel on the ad no sources he had nothing. Let's go with it wasn't the Patriots. What was it? The Patriots knows. The raiders the raiders. Yeah Yeah I don't know what someone tweeted us the Tampa Bay buccaneers as a retirement home for Brady Mike Evans haven't step receive those uniforms. The too bad for Tom Brady to join that team. I did not wear that uniform. He couldn't Brady wouldn't look good. Nobody looks good. That uniform I think I think Tampa might have the worse uniform sports right now. It looks like a digital alarm clock with an obscure orangish red color. That's not really orange anymore. Yeah they've changed their colors. Yeah weren't they pewter there for a while they were the they Sherbert. What what was the the cream secretive? Although I'd like the cream sickle. It just didn't strike fear into the opposition. I don't think beware of the cream sickle. Yes yes mclovin remember their reports. Bill wanted to try a mobile quarterback he brought in Tibo and Manziel. Yeah it was supposed to be fascinated with these guys. Is there a possible mobile quarterback out there. Ed Murray Ota somebody could run a little bit tyrod Taylor if I'm getting rid of Brady then who am I bringing in now. It's like Florida. State spent twenty million dollars dollars to get rid of Willie Taggart and then they brought in some guy named norval Mike Mike novell like Carville Carville. I don't know how good he is. But if you're spending twenty million to get rid of a coach who were you bringing in Mike Norville and you know maybe he's. He's the the next knute rockne I don't know but one thing to get rid of somebody. It's another thing to say. This is bringing in Ole miss brought in lane kiffin often lane kiffin will join US coming up at the top of the Hour Reggie Miller. We'll stop by as well. We're going to stay with that. Poll question mclovin you got an update. We got some options. What scandal is Robert Kraft wanted to go away? It's pretty obvious the massage parlor even during the season of giving we'd like to offer you a little something special and all we're asking in return is a few moments of your time. We need you to complete a short survey because your opinion matters to us and help support the show. 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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host jerry taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode sown disputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate so skip shannon. Let's get to it. Welcome to undisputed live from los angeles. I'm jason mcintyre joined as i have been all week mom man greg jennings is steamed rob parker our steve with the iron bowl or firing on all cylinders gentlemen ahead on the show does aaron rodgers have something to prove and it's tom brady showing signs of decline now. I can't believe we're talking about tom. Marino chris collins has always been one of my favorite food. Of course he has but we get started with cuyler murray. The rookie sensation steps back on the field tonight against the raiders in his second preseason game murray went six for seven for forty four yards and just one series series in his debut last week. Colonel steve time obviously thinks highly of the rookie by taking him number one overall and trading away the previous years ten tenth overall pick. Josh rosen told the ringer taking this guy number one. I took a lot of grief for that. You have to make the tough decisions and avoid the outside outside noise. Why did you give on this guy. Why would you trade this guy. It's unprecedented. I took rosen in the top ten. I just felt that murray was generational talent that i couldn't pass up. Rob parker will start with you. Is it crazy to call cuyler murray. A generational talent went. It's crazy. It's my sugar. No whatever words you want to use it is crazy only from this damn point and i. I want to give them credit. 'cause column murray. I ever player in this country to be drafted by the n._f._l. In the first round and major league baseball so we already know right he's especial athlete okay. I'm not trying to poo poo him as an athlete but in this case steve com has no other choice than to put all his chips in the center of the table because when you draft a guy like josh rosen and give them up the first after his first year and then go draft another quarterback you're admitting that you made a mistake right and draft erosion from the beginning so now you have to be all in on this because this is. You're not only your job with the arizona cardinals do korea. It really is so he's got to talk about. He's got a hope that everything works out. He's he's an undersized quarterback who only played twenty nine college games making the transition from college to the n._f._l. There's been a lot of guys who who are great college football players but it doesn't translate so we don't really know we don't and this is not a traditional quarterback by any stretch of the imagination adulation and we've seen this played out over and over with guys. Okay mic vicks going to change the n._f._l. Cop and it's going to change the n._f._l. R._g. Three he's gonna change the n._f._l. I yeah and most of the time it hasn't happened not that. They haven't had some success. We've been have rhonda warshafsky as a football aboard analysts go as far to call the colin kaepernick was going to be hey. He did say greg that he was he was going to be the greatest could be the the greatest quarterback. Whoever played do you remember cap nick in those early years. Do you remember the playoff game against green bay do rare on the other side when he was. I want to touch him. I don't know you'll touch them that game. Maybe you touch them after the game when you shook his hand. I definitely didn't touch them because i didn't but you know what i'm saying. Your defense could touch them but i think this is all premature and way too early to say that you could say he's something special aw i'm intrigued by him. I think he has a chance. You know what i mean to be to do something that maybe hasn't been able to be been done before but but i can't i can't use generational. I'm not with that not yet yeah when you look at steve time in his history of what he's brought in quarterback. This is the generation talent right here that he's a bad g._m. Call whatever you want to but this this column murray kidd is a generational talent and for all the reasons that you mentioned you mentioned one of the primary reasons why he views him mm-hmm and we should view him as such. It's not about what he hasn't done yet in the national football league because that's to be seen but you mentioned the only only the only player ever to be drafted top ten in the major league baseball as well as number top tin number one overall in national football league. We have never seen that before. We possibly will never see that again so from from the outset impressive impressive congratulations mccollum uri. Can we not forget his transition that he had to make after a baker mayfield heisman eisman trophy winner year that he put all the records that baker mayfield set in all the all the hype that left with baker mayfield from oklahoma and we thought men oklahoma will they even be another another relevant team. Will they have another relevant year and then this kid kyla murray reese steps in not only starts to knock down some of these statistical records there baker mayfield set in place. He backs it up by another heisman trophy win season like he has been proven to step in and make impact right away. You talk about him. Only playing twenty nine collegiate football always god. That's all we that's all we needed. Wait hold on only start. He always had on team. He only started everything in his interceptions that that he did throw the the seven that he did throw start was early in his collegiate career last year. He threw forty two touchdowns to seven interceptions equivalent equivalent to what he had already thrown early in his collegiate career so don't tell me this guy only has played twenty nine games started seventeen. He is proven to sit back. Watch what he had before him. Educate himself learn go through the process and then when it was his turn take full full advantage of it. I liked kala murray not only because of his stature not only because of his speed but his dynamic ability lead to not only lead but also make game breaking plays with a guy like column. We haven't seen this type of talent. Since michael michael vick and michael vick himself said that he could possibly he possibly will be better than what he was even running the football but generational 'rational talent is different from generational athlete. I would agree with what you said is an athlete. He's there right baseball football but backup what rob parker said you are now putting hooding this tag of generational talent on a guy who carved up the big twelve where they don't play a lick adult say they don't play any defense and ready okay to point when baker mayfield was able to do it in another guys at lincoln riley lies or is it column right. Now we know keiler is awesome is immensely talented over four thousand yards passing over one thousand yards rushing only shawn watson had done that before in college football but the burden of expectation that you're putting on this young guy g._m. Really messed up here greg. You can't do this to kyle lowry. Let me just back up to last year. Arizona cardinals were awful. They set a first time in eighteen years. A starting starting offensive line had thirteen different guys start. Josh rosen had no chance back there. I feel bad for kayla marie. He already ran for his life because that's what he does. He is going to be scrambling from the jump in arizona. He's going to have no chance to be a generational. No shot behind that awful offensive line. This is why it works. This is why it works works because you get an elusive guy who has escape ability who can extend the play who can play outside the pocket and still be accurate still keep his is down. The field still make plays throwing the football but also with his legs. Let me josh rosen. You think defenses are going to go after up to him when they know he's elusive. Do you really believe they're going to go to go saqqallah murray or are they gonna play knowing that he's elusive and and can run the records speaking speaking of elusive loose if he's six five. He's got knocked out. The last two seasons. Andrew luck is six four. These are strapping dudes who are getting jacked badly andrew. Luck stay healthy. You're telling me five ten to seven guy with no offensive. Line has the potential to be a generational talent. I absolutely believe it and you talk about size and this is where i want us to just focus on his size because we've had don't let's not act like we haven't had players that had been small. We we have tarik cohen in guys like quarterback. No he's running back. He's one of the smaller running back in the national football league. We have who's with the philadelphia philadelphia eagles right in that role. Yes i sp- rose one of the smaller these guys playing running back. All automatically have an advantage because because they're smaller they're not seeing within the tackles you can ask any defensive player defensive lineman linebacker. It is more challenging launching to get a visual on these guys because you can't find him. They hide behind the guys that are six five six six now. If there's if that's the only thing that you guys can attack kalamaria for nobody is we're attacking the phrase of generational. Just i think bernie is gonna be good. This year we would agree. Murray is talented. He is fun to watch. We like the cardinals but you're putting this on a guy who basically has to be the franchise savior for a franchise. It's been gore but this is the last franchise that's been wandering. The desert for the last twenty five years carson palmer took up to an antiquarian game but i'm just saying but but this this franchise has made a lot of mistakes and i'm not saying that this is a mistake. All i'm saying is calm. The general manager is just i get it. He needs to save his bacon by putting all all this on this kid and setting the kid up for failure for expectations and i got to meet him down in a super bowl in atlanta and i don't know oh five nine to me. He's definitely not did you. Have you seen him. Absolutely i was down there with you right down. There and i don't know i mean he's a smaller guy to wait to see how it translates to the n._f._l. Not there yet greg until i see i don't wanna make this steve thing but he has also drafted two guys in the the top ten in the last six years. Both of them got traded within the first two years so i don't know if he knows how to identify talent greg. I gotta ask you cuyler. Murray comes out what if they don't bring in cliff kingsbury as their head coach who obviously knows the system well lincoln riley he goes. I'm gonna love with him. I mean just kylo murray. Go in the top five. Is anybody taken in that high. Yes yes. It doesn't matter who let's talk about where he is right now. In why he is where he is right now it's because because of cliff kingsbury the system that they feel like fits a kyle murray when you talk about generational talent i e we make it seem like he has to have done so much in his national or pro-career national football league career to just be a generational talent. We've seen in two or in college. We're looking at him as a special talent not calling him a generational talent baker mayfield in what he did in college and what it trevor ever heard anybody called baker mayfield no they didn't need to but there was doubts there was only one season gives baker mayfield. He had a good year really good lawsuit. When you look at least get admit that he had a great rookie but there's any time you swing you know this you you play softball big based as walk guy anytime you're bad. You're not going to strike out every single time. You're up there. You might strike out wants to three four five six times but you're eventually eventually gonna hit the ball off and that's what that's what's the kind of way to keep his hip and he's hitting the ball right now. With colin murray a whole run we'll see that's left up to colin murray and what he provides us as far as production in the national football league but i believe that he can be a transcendent player because of his unique skillset leads not only run the ball and between the hashes in outside the hashes but his throwing ability and his accuracy as well greg. You know this and we you see it all the time. There's always okay your first time. I look even people gonna look at you. You're going to be able to do so and then. There's an adjustment right so kyle. Murray will have have to face that adjustment like everybody does. It seem like patrick mahomes. You know coming. Initiate is going to be an adjustment of course because that's what it is and i'm just trying. I just say so far. We just saw think onto a ball past ten yards or whatever in the first game and we'll see how that plays out if it's just quick little passes when he's he's not gonna have any time though that's what i'm saying to allow him the fired up throw downfield so i'm just i i would rather take a wait and see approach at him not because he's not talented fit because i think people will make an adjustment. I don't believe that people are going to let him run all over the plays and attack the quarterback and open up these things for him to be able to slip through and one for forty yards. If you don't have a spy or somebody that sticks they're on him to try to make sure that this guy doesn't do that because that's a big part of his game. You know what i liked the phrase under promise and over deliver right. Hey we're we're host undisputed this week. We're going to have fun but you know behind the scenes. We're like we're gonna crush us. We're gonna have great topics. We're going to have interesting sparks debate and i just wish time would have done that under promise with kyle. Don't say generational okay. He had seventeen starts in college. The other two small quarterbacks russell wilson and baker mayfield. They had forty six ex-college starts. They been around the block multiple times. They see many defenses. These guys were ready to deliver when they came into the league. I just don't know that carla marie right out of the gate now week week one he might shock the lions because they're not going to have seen any of this stuff going forward. I always say on the donald due to the lions. Don arnold sam darnold much better no no but i'm just saying what he did. In his first game yes so greg generational talent. He's not in the realm of some of these guys aaron rodgers gener- he's he's not. That's not what he's saying. I was waiting on one of you to start comparing generation. Mike vick was not a generational guy excellent quarterback awesome talent incredible congenial tech. I saw him live many times. He works for fox but he wasn't a general. Mike vick didn't have the career that kyla murray did in college as far as throwing the the football he running the football yes but throwing the football no mike vick. We'll tell you that himself but when you watch kyle murray everything that he does jumps jumps out at you. That's why you can jump out here and say this is this is this is like someone coming out and saying you know what kyla murray he's is. Gonna be an okay player. You know we you're under a better than we're very excited about the week and my my exactly but the moment comet he starts to have success and then you're too he has success and your three everybody. You know what everybody starts to say. Man we knew coming out of college he was going to be a generational racist tail and if and if he fails what are they saying they say we told you so like all the teams. That wouldn't even entertain me this. This is a risk explain to him that they traded up for. Josh rosen last year right traded up for a guy they love. I'm not there but they just don't. I am not at all defending steve time here. Let me make attack clear. I'm not defending him at all because he has he has made his share of strikeouts and he probably will continue to do that but right here right right now with this big column murray it fits what they're trying to do with cliff queensberry and where they're going you talk about the struggles of the office of line line you a quarterback allude tackles that can extend plays that can get outside of the tackle box and then still keep his eyes downfield. You have the dual threat capability running the ball that solves a little bit of that problem. It doesn't solve it completely but it solves biggest weakness when when you look at kyla title murray coming into the n._f._l. What would you say like his biggest experience right. I mean seven is is that what i'm just saying like like when you look at his game is zero anything that you say the only thing that i can sit here and say that stands out is his size is is it i can't. I can't say that that's it's gonna work against him because he's proven otherwise so far so far. He's proven otherwise but we'll hear size catch up to him. Possibly in get some put some passes knocked down. Yes all quarterbacks. Get passes batted down but you think back to that alabama game in last year college football. He looked overwhelmed early in the moment. It looked too big for him. I think it was twenty eight. Nothing like before you snapping fingers but in the second half i saw a lot that i liked at a calorie that spirited had come back that alabama defense loaded with future pros and murray looked very very good running and passing. I i don't wanna come off as a hater. I know people think because of antonio brown the the last couple of days. I'm a hater. I'm not i like calamari a lot. I do believe as rob said generational. Talent is such a big label to put on a guy that is a big labor and it's not helping his cause is a big label but when you know you have a guy that has big shoulders and broad shoulders and can stand in that spotlight right and deliver you don't it's not big enough for kyla murray because he didn't say he didn't say it so he doesn't have to live up to something that someone else says he's gonna be we. He is so. I'm not concerned about that he all he has to do. He's won over that locker room. He has he has stepped in right away and taken the leadership role. Oh and it hasn't been so much of a vocal thing. It's been what guys have seen. Patrick peterson has come out and said this guy is amazing. I like what i'm seeing out of him. He can make every throw he can run between reagan. Let me just this n._f._l. Talk and you notice the real story would be one of the players say this guy campway. Everybody's great. Everybody drafted. I'm yet to hear any player ever say where's very true. Okay that's all. I'm saying oh well. That's so what you gotta do. Step up up. Dan jones is now. The greatest quarterback joe might be you know what a me so when i hear that i just pump the brakes cause. His teammates are supposed. I get it. I want to touch on something you said about the alabama game and colin moran him being overwhelmed in the first half and quarter first quarter. Whatever you said the difference there was you have one guy in kyla murray who is all everything going up against an entire entire team of alabama first second third round n._f._l. Players star receiver was her. You can't you can't do that. There's no no way you're going to beat them with just yourself in no i'm not gonna say no talent but lesser talent against the alabama school. That's that's best. That's just not fair so for you even throw that there was a generational talent who did that in the title game. His name is trevor lawrence all right. Let's move on. Is it true that tom tom brady is on the decline. We'll discuss that and don't forget you can check us out every day on the fox sports channel on sirius x._m. We'll be right back. No we finally aaron rodgers on the field for the first time under new head coach matt la fleur as the packers faced the ravens in baltimore filler told told reporters earlier this week that rodgers will play a quarter or so many are interested to see the dynamic of these two on the field after rogers denied reports of a rift between his coach calling it fake news rogers reputation has taken a slight ding recently between criticisms in the locker room and missing the playoffs. The past has two seasons greg. Does your boy aaron rodgers. Does he have anything to prove no no he does not he. It does not i in you. You said his reputation has taken a danger light slightly sliding because he's missed the playoffs and can't stay healthy. I mean injury is a part of the game number one but when you're not able to be on the field and perform warm provide the production that he provides for that team that franchise then yes. They're gonna miss the playoffs. I mean this is aaron. Rodgers retarded. We just got talking about a generational talent. This has been a this is a future first ballot hall of famer no question no doubt last year him playing playing the entire year rob being injured the entire year. Remember game we as the one against the hill mac in still coming back to win that game and playing out the rest of the year is show not only toughness but his ability to resolve but to be able to play and play at a high level level brett farve told me this one time and i'll never forget it. He said the difference between players playing injured in choosing not to play he said when a guy status static gonna play and he's injured. It's not one thing just to play but can you still be great. He's still be eighty five percent better or not or not and if you can't do that then don't play aaron. Rodgers has proven he can do that but last year. Let me just give you these stats really quick. Tell me his badge exactly gli over four thousand passing yards twenty five touchdowns to two interceptions now mind you this is with randall cobb who was injured on and off last year devante albums. We know what he is. He's been a constant great player. We love what he provides. Provides no geronimo alison no other guys aaron jones and out. This is a guy that's had to bear the load his entire entire career basically with when it comes to not having a running game and so for him to have something to prove no the only thing we need to see from rogers is can he continue contain. Can you foster this relationship and can you make sure that that stays in the back of everybody's mind and his place as also that qualifies improve right that is the only thing he needs to prove as far as his performance on the field no. He has absolutely zero to prove. We know who that guy is as we know what he can do. We know what he provides with him. Being on the field we talk about the green bay packers being super bowl contenders. Why because of aaron rodgers not because of anybody. That's gonna come back. Obviously they get geronimo a healthy geronimo ellison back who they expect the big things out of we know again as i mentioned who devante adams's but aaron rodgers is. It's like the andrew situation you unplug that guy. We're not talking about the green bay packers you insert that guy. We're talking about super bowl. No doubt about it and you hit a lot of points that i i wanted to make as as well because i think people have just and you know what you're talking about. The slight dings that he mentioned it's just natural natural when such a guy on such approach has some down years but to your point based off of injury now as healthy and he didn't play well then those are the guys. I think people looked at openings to say oh see aaron rodgers. He ain't that guy. He's only five hundred his last two years when you add up all the words but nobody wants to talk about all the injuries. Nobody wants to talk about the defenses. This guy's been playoff games where his defense is giving up forty plus points three or four times greg and he's supposed to win games and people look at them and say why hasn't he gotten two more super bowls and why hasn't he won more super bowls. I believe leave that aaron. Rodgers all the to do is stay healthy if this guy stays healthy and can play all sixteen games. I believe he can be m._v._p. Still yeah. I know always thirty five but greg satisfied three years to me is more like thirty two quarterback in the n._f._l. Right because he didn't make as many hits early on tom brady went ten years between winning super bowls aaron rodgers. I believe is at nine so i believe that he could have a second breath of fresh share in his career win. Maybe one or two more super bowls and then when you look at all of his numbers and look at everything that this guy was able to accomplish there will be no question to anybody about how great aaron rodgers because he has all the other numbers the only thing he's missing his probably two pieces of hardware won komo multiple m._v._p.'s what hasn't done greatest quarterback waiting in the history of any quarterback who's ever played. He has the greatest touchdown interception awesome ratio of your antibody. He had a streak wasn't it. Last year. We set the record of consecutive completions. We has that record. He's done everything and now i. I believe with a new coach system. It was time for mike mccarthy go. Sometimes you guys around too long. I believe that this is going to be a rebirth of aaron rogers and defensively greg you know this. They've drafted better some defensive players. This is a better defensive team and would aaron rodgers onto feel healthy. He wins the n._f._c. north and they are definitely n._f._c. A demon over your lions well so i've been over to aaron. Rodgers offers to lebron for the last couple years done it on a cow colin cowherd show people love the analogy and it even lines up more given what lebron went through lasted with the injuries raise and aaron rodgers did as well. You guys realize in the n._f._l. Now everybody's excited over the young new quarterbacks at carson wentz baker mayfield patrick mahomes aaron rodgers is like the forgotten guy all of a sudden again. We're twenty sixteen as you alluded to go up to the n._f._c. Title game loss of the packer falcons and it's not it wasn't his fault. All the defense couldn't stop a nosebleed numbers. Talk sounds seven interceptions one four quarterback. He's the forgotten man. Teheran rogers is the forgotten man. Does he have something to prove. I think internally he wants to show everybody guys. You can get excited about mahomes and sam darnold and baker and all these guys. I'm still the most talented quarterback in the n._f._l. And i've argued this and i will brady is the winningest aaron rodgers is the most talented and as long has he is healthy something that has been a problem because as i said last six years he's missed sixteen games due to injury drew brees in the last fifteen years has missed one one game due to injury. Tom brady in the last ten years has missed one game zero games due to injury aaron rodgers has to stay healthy now again. That's something you said is out of control control but on some level he's going to have to say hey. I can't outrun anthony barr and try to make a play here. He's he's got something to prove from a perspective of. I can can still play at thirty five years old and beanie lead quarterback. I've just got to stay healthy. One of the things that i don't like when people talk about aaron rodgers you so you mentioned it a little bit comparing them to lebron james because the bars already set so high you start to poke and see everything they they do that. He doesn't know what a super bowl even last year the throwaways when did we ever start tracking role too bad thing taking aside having your collarbone broke when when early in his career when he held the ball too long was criticized. It was like you gotta get rid of it. Throw all little way now. He's older. He understands. You know what i'm not gonna. Take the extra hit. I'm not going to even put the ball in harm's way. I'm just going to throw it away now. It's a knock there and i know a lot of people were going to say greg. You've been wanting to criticize rogers. Yes i have been never about his never about his play. It's never been about his is play. It's always been about things outside of his play. That's why i say the one thing he does have to prove and i'm the i will stick to. This is his relationship building skills. Oh he fostered that relationship can he sustain that related candy work and if it does work which i believe that there is potential betty could spent specifically this year. He could be electrifying do we. We're talking about a guy that's number. One first ballot hall of famer who's never thrown own four or five thousand yard season in a lot of that had to do with just parameters that were around him and absolutely so now how you you allow him to just unleash who he is and just run with this offense with a metal floor say okay coach. Let me do what i do. Who'd you sprinkle a little bit in and let's see where we take this coach. He's a little bit and i absolutely it's gonna be sprinkle a little bit and it should be just a little bit of floors. Not i'm not gonna come in and decide that a first time head coach that he's running everything and he's going to dictate what aaron rodgers that would make no sense to anybody so it's got to be worked with the hall of fame quarterback that you have right and try to add to help him out a little bit but to your point i mean they had wide receivers as running backs. Just think about what what what they've had in green bay for a long time i witnessed plenty of games in detroit where they ran the ball more than they passed and and now we used to go what is this. I couldn't figure it out and it will want to be an alliance win because they wouldn't let are roger soda ball. I don't think we're going to see that in at the age of forty two. Tom brokaw shown very few signs of slowing down your outdoors guy. The six time superbowl winning quarterback still says he wants to play until he is forty five. He's under contract for two more seasons in new england now chris collins worth worth join colin coward on the heard yesterday and admitted something about the aging quarterback take a listen. I don't think you get to forty whatever he is one one and a half forty two years old and you don't decline in some way i mean tom brady used to be able to throw a ball about as far as anybody nobody in the league so has he declined of course he has. I mean he's not he's not that age but if you're declining and winning super bowls that's pretty good all right chris. All how do we not rob for. This is just gonna let him go because we know his relationship with tom. Tom brady d._m.'s at this point. No rob. Is tom. Brady really declining absolutely chris. Collins is one hundred percent right and look when you win. A super bowl covers up all the wards. Tom brady had more than a witch last honest and took good deep look at his skin okay seriously. Can i just give you some numbers second. Half of the year first half of the year sixteen touchdowns seven interceptions ninety nine passer rating second half nine touchdowns four interceptions and a ninety one percent of passer us awaiting. Tom brady and you wanna look at the last three years as well. All the numbers are going down and i get it. He's older and the only reason that the the narrative is different is because tom brady hitched his wagon on a defense that beat the rams. Tom brady didn't didn't touchdown. He had an interception he had a fumble. He had an awful super bowl game his windfall of his nine superbowl put it was bad. It was yeah he was. He's won. Two super bulls now. Jason were total one touchdown just his very first one and the last one one two goals with one time. I'm just saying so so so if they would have lost and they only scored three points or whatever it was not poison tom brady the narrative would be totally different. We saw tom brady earlier your last year where he was trying to throw the ball out of bounds and pittsburgh he couldn't even have enough mustard on it to get it out of bounds you that it was intercepted. It was true sure so. Let's just be honest. Tom brady can talk about warning to play tilles forty-five. Get it when you win. People are more apt to give you the benefit of the doubt and this was anybody else and tom brady didn't win or tom. Brady wasn't lucky enough to get the falcons to show and for seattle to throw a bed interception at the goal line. You wouldn't be looking at a totally different. Oh tom brady has declined. Let's just face the facts. It doesn't resumes off. We can't play and he's he's not a good quarterback but he's not as great as people make him out to be rob. I agree with what i do agree. He's joking. Tom brady is definitely declining but he's not falling off a cliff by any stretch and you see them video women. There's there's daughter. I'm telling you fell off the cliff jumping off jump off. When i look at tom brady. I look at someone who understands what he's up against. Now he understands. He's getting older so now. I have to beat you in different ways. I'm not gonna make as chris collins alluded to. I'm not going to be able to make those throws that i once did. In throw the ball fifty sixty seventy yards down the field templates times a game. That's not my style. What i'm going to beat you with is my savviness savviness in my mental sharpness so i'm gonna see in dissect the defense nowhere. I need to go have my guys in the position that they need to be in and put the ball on the money. Now what the new england patriots have done that i completely applaud them for as they've strategically placed him in a situation relation now where he doesn't have to bear the load so you acquire running back and you say here you know what we're going to allow you to run the ball in the ball a lot more when you look at their rushing attempts rushing attempts in twenty seventeen four hundred forty eight rushing attempts. They're rushing attempts last year four hundred seventy eight. They were fifth in the n._f._l. And rushing in two thousand eighteen they were they were in. They weren't even in the top ten in twenty seventeen so when you look at those dynamics hammocks you're gonna get a different type of tom. Brady tom brady. That's not going to be called upon to win the game from the first quarter to the fourth no we. I need you to be as sharp as you can be. At the waning moments of the game this is how is play when you get up in as when we look at in the national basketball whoa association the older guys. When do we want you the most fresh. We want you to fresh his in the playoffs. You look at a guy like dollar for the golden state. Warriors didn't play a a lot in the regular season but when it came to the playoffs who was on the court all the time andre equal dollar because we know he provides a value that we can't expend spin in the regular season. So what am i saying about tom brady. We we know what you provide us. We don't need you to be the tom brady of twenty tin eleven twelve all these super bowl m._v._p.'s and league v._p.'s. We don't even need that. We need you to be that guy when it's the clutch. It's time of a game two minutes left. Can you pull it out for us. Yes i can coach. I'm your guy boy. Greg jarrett one of the best little speeches. You've made this week. I gotta applauded greg. I agree largely with that. I disagreed that decline is the right word here geno number. I'm gonna tell you i do believe as greg said said they are pivoting from a tom. Brady led passing attack with grunk with the dual tight ends with randy. Moss and they're reinventing themselves as they run team meeting. Fewer you were passes for radi easier passes. That's why i believe his q._b._r. Is down his quarterback passer. Rating is down the lower five years but it's not because he's declining because they're reinvent no assistance they not. He can't make those they'll make rob players. They have their reinventing inventing themselves. You know madonna singer reinvented ourselves from the eighties to the ninety. She's pivoted in business. This happens all the time. I mentioned drake earlier this week he he was like a teen idol on one of these nickelodeon shows. He's now a rapper people change and reinvent themselves. That's what brady's doing. He's no longer throwing deep bombs to randy moss. He doesn't have gronk in the seem. He's going to become a run team. He will definitely continue to play and succeed with the patriot. The reason why guys like tom brady continued to play at a high level and bs consistent in just had the longevity is because of would jason this talking about and i'm surprised that i'm agree are- which right now but there you're meant to me i don't they're acting their ability to not conform warm but to reinvent themselves to a certain degree and when you look at guys like larry fitzgerald who went from elite wide receivers and all of the national football league so now he's pretty much a hybrid tied in he's learned to reinvent himself which is why he's still consistently productive and impact impact player because not because he's outside the numbers and he's doing the same things that we saw him doing early in his career. No he's understanding that times change range. My body changes tom brady for you to sit here and say that he can't make those throws that is completely so they can make all the throwing here. Go take game in pittsburgh bake. All of you see some ways. Super bowl has to grunt the most important goal in the super bowl gone. He nailed it. He missed so many throws the super bowl and he kicked the most important. We've misses throws now. Depth that play in pittsburgh to me. I wish we had the video showing a loopier luke. Tom brady though is not what i'm saying. It is right here rob. That was one of those where he's trying to get. The ball can't throw it out off his back backfoot. He can't do it out of bounce. Tom brady in the past would be able to do that. I get it as you get old. You wanna make adjustments. I'm telling you bill. Belichick knows what he's he's working with. He's working with a forty two year old who can't do it. Thank goodness for sony michelle if it wasn't for him. They win win those super bowl they wouldn't you. Do you know how it's parker. We should push the picture you lose thirty pounds what working out reinventing yourself at fifty two. You know why. I can't give you a lot of credit on that particular play because he's using his brain as well. He's being strategically smart as well. We wanna pick no. He didn't wanna throw the pig but he understands understands. I have to get it in the vicinity of one of my players or i'm gonna lose down. Grounds are going to be intentional grounding. He could easily through a straight to the sideline but that's not what what smart quarterbacks do. When you think about plays like that you're throwing off your back foot. You have a guy draping over you. You're trying to get the ball out of bounds but young quarterbacks quarterbacks make the mistake of just throwing straight to the sideline and then losing down. Tom brady is at the mentality of you know what i know the situation i know what needs to be done rather rather give up football than down. Is that what you're telling me. I mean they're into scary inside the to your line. That's that's pretty much a but you so you want to give up the football. Tom brady to give who nobody wants to give up the football but i would rather take i would rather take that then then have intentional wouldn't win rather say okay. I can't drive the narrative on tom. Brady would be totally different if they lost the super bowl and i get it you guys love us all about the super bowl no matter whether he contributed not everybody talks about the five hundred yards through. Is it about yards or is it about points. Tom brady left points on on the field and in against philadelphia super bowl he also caught up the football and the final two and a half minutes that cost them the game. The defense gave up thirty five points to nick full. Stop robot didn't leave points on the a._f._c. title game i can't you wanted to do. I can't believe the producers don't have video from the a._f._c. Title game chiefs chiefs patriots okay over his post game. What happens in overtime rob. Tom brady when the chiefs no exactly what's grading reception and and ford was off with yes that happened but not up what happened in overtime telling i'm running i ever saw on the spy down the field. What's laura's lot off offsides and that's the way that game ends people on talking about tom. Brady a forty two years old. The same way roddy was that that close to call an ulta game. Let's just beyond his world has. I don't even know if if let's just deal in reality and facts what happened in the a._f._c. if c. title game in overtime just break down every play tom down the field. We're going to the slot. We're going to see this shaves knew what was coming. They couldn't stop brady every point pinpoint accuracy. The every pass it was magnificent on the other side was andy. We'd normally big games on return to the table song andy andy. We couldn't win a big game. What what a shocker. That's his middle name on the new yorker who loves the jets and i'm praising tom brady because that's the right thing to do here. He is greatness personified his amazing in the new england patriots understand. We don't have a guy to replace this this man right now. They have to make sure we protect all of what he is and how great he we know he can be for us but we need to do that in a matter of making sure he can. He can be that guy in the moments. We need him to be that guy. You're looking at just his his sachs's saxon twenty seventeen he he got sacked thirty five times versus twenty one time this past year you gotta make sure you gotta know we can't allow him to get not only sacked but quarterback hits. They have to go down. You have to protect the guy that's all. They do now because they no longer effective. My favorite moment from the segment was rob said tom brady has won two super bowls where he only threw a touchdown pass. Do we have a list of how many guys hill to win two super bowls rob what i'm saying he gets all the credit as if it's always about owns the lion share it all and it's always about tom because he's been doing it for so long. They couldn't even fake and give him the m._v._p. This past here even though you said he made all the throws that needed to nine quarter against you know i'm talking about this the super bowl pastor gronk why but they even couldn't couldn't fudge it and give tom brady the m._v._p. That's how poorly he played. It wasn't it wasn't great game but jared goff by the way young starring side. I've been paying one pastor. Ask brandin cooks and pay missing aerial for years now. I'm going to be white this eventually. You'll be right. We should make a deal. He has to retire this brady eighty. Take if the patriots win the super bowl to happen even if they win it you know whatever all right folks did the clippers and tie lou just pull the ultimate troll troll job on rob parker second lebron. That's insane dilu- is headed to los angeles but not to be reunited added lebron. Lou reportedly named doc rivers top assistant with the clippers lewis low ball by the lakers when they were negotiating to make him their head coach earlier this summer luwan title in cleveland with lebron twenty sixteen but he is also very familiar with doc rivers having been on doc staff twice before all right folks. This could get ugly rob. What do you make of the clippers and tyler. I love this movie. One hundred percent or cd i do first of all all the lakers totally mishandled his tie lose a former laker pedigree with a championship and had success with lebron on it was just about dollars. They offer them a measly tweet year contract for guy who's won. A championship and lebron is in in his final three years roughly so you don't want to waste time with him getting adjusted to some other coach who's never one never been there never done that. It was a perfect africa layup for them and i don't. I don't blame lou for not taking this offer. Luke warm just got a five year deal and sacramento coming it off three straight years of not making the playoffs and he got five years but the lakers didn't wanna pay him and i love what the clippers had done. This is not just some rub but in your face this guy who's been up close and personal against lebron. James is going to be a rival in western conference going to be the difference words between the lakers and clippers. Maybe this little edge can help them. Also he's been on as you mentioned earlier. He's been on our dock overstaffed before so they have comfortable with each other. You've got a championship caliber top assistant to go with the head coach. Who's won a championship in doc rivers. I i love everything about it. I think it makes total sense and i think the lakers will rue the day that they pass over tilahun because tai lue to me made made one hundred percent sense of being the lakers head coach yeah. I don't mind this at all and i don't think it's a tro job by the clippers. Not it's not even in a little little bit because again as you mentioned he's been on doc rivers staff when in boston and with the clippers before joining the cleveland cavaliers and taking the head coach job one thing i do like about it and why i think it was a great hire is because you do have a guy who's been with lebron james who understands what makes them tick who understands how he practices how he's going to approach the games play defense. I'm not going that far and how he can then now inform elite players as paul george and kawhi leonard of how they can attack actors guy and what his what he's going to present as problematic for them like this isn't a higher if he hasn't been proven to where he's had got a track record of losing in underperforming he's had success at at the head coach level as an assistant coach. He's highly high regard in the national basketball association so you can't slide it in say. It's just a slap in the face to the lakers. No this is a great hire. It probably has a lot have to do with the fact that what he provides is a lot of intel regarding a guy that they're gonna face in the western conference all the way through probably in the in house house and some people said hey wait a minute. Why would he take that job. That's beneath amis a he was a head coach. You want a championship at some point. You got to get back out there right right. People forget about you. You stay on the sidelines too long number. Two what happens to guys who on winning teams winning they get they get they get opportunities the -tunities and if he could be on this team say and the clippers win the championship which i believe they will they win the championship you look at tai lue totally different and be like he was on doc doc staff and we want to give him an opportunity to be i coach. I think it's a smart that's incredible the same way lebron kerry tie lua title and got him a look. What the lakers maybe can help tie leung get another job guys. You're way wrong on this. I'm sorry so besides the lakers in cavs there were four other n._b._a. Head coach openings this summer how many of them call because he's such a great coach and he's got a championship. How many of them called him zero. Nobody called lou not in demand in the the least the sun's memphis not even good franchise named the gaza tahar. I'll give you the taylor jenkins somebody taylor. Jenkin kings luke walton couldn't win jack squat with because they don't want to go on a head coaching job with what they don't want to pay just because they harm his head coach monte william. It'll have tornadoes take in minnesota guys. You're way wrong on your tie. Loot very nice man. I gotta be careful what i say a lot of the clippers and lakers work out at my gym jim in my and your real and i see a lot of these guys. They're the real opinion. This is not a great hire. This is poking the bear. This is the clippers trying to be relevant. Hey hey look at us. We're we're. We're trolling the lakers. We stole kawai from lebron. They tried to get a now. We're gonna steal tie lebron's guy as head coach the lakers. I didn't totally botched tie lou. I think they messed it up and you know why because they tie. We're not only going to low ball you but we're going to pick your assistant coach so you loose title frank vogel right. I'm not only offering you tell me about the parade. Point vogel had a parade. Asking what do we did. Mike is this title because i don't even wanna championship for the first time in fifty two you give me a break that had nothing to do with dr king that way. You know why you kylie irving the credit for hitting the game winning shot and you gave lebron no crazy to go on this thing is you can't do it that way. If god is a coach and they don't win. He gets blamed. If he's coach you. Gotta give him some credit. I don't have to say it's a hundred percent of the credit but tyler was the coach of that. Everybody doesn't win even when they have talent so. I'm sorry guys we're good talent win. Anything what's the name of the miami heat basketball coach who exposure yeah eric's poster he was the video coordinator wins a bunch of titles lebron. I'm not bashing spoelstra this way and make my point. What does he done since lebron left. That's what i thought guys. I'm just saying lebron is such a generational talent. A phrase of the show that it's so tough to say how good of a coach luis lebron was incredible and transcendent in miami with weight of them. Almost six charity work as good lewis. Let's say this is a great. Ire is preposterous. The the reason why you can say he was a great coach with lebron and you can because he made it worse like is different. You just said you compared tired. Aaron rodgers to lebron james. It's not solely on aaron rodgers. It's more on matt leflore to conform to make it work because we know what aaron rodgers gonna provide on the football field. We know will lebron. James is going to provide you said something that just jumped out to me. This is trying the clippers trying to make themselves relevant what this this was a playoff team before kawai and thank you for paul before all these acquisitions and clippers are relevant before this they were relevant and we none of us up here after losing tobias harris thought that they were going to even make the play they made the playoffs they went to golden state with the healthy durant wants to play on who that name relevant to play against warriors would know stars was <music> relevant. Yes that's the bar for relevant. I like you guys eat. They made the playoffs in the guy. John lantos didn't make the playoffs you and hey greg there when it came time paul george who didn't want to come to the lakers a year ago wanted to come to the clippers and the biggest prize in free. The agency decided. I'm going to the clippers. It was laid up for him to go to the lakers have less muscle work load. He didn't have to take a discount. Money-wise is any at anthony davis. It was laid out for him and he still chose to go to the clippers. Do not poop who what they have with the clip date. Do they have something going finally finally have relevancy because they needed their desperate in a town with a ram just went to the super bowl the l._a. Kings are good all the time couple good soccer teams here the lakers lebron bron. The clippers are desperate to be relevant to crowbar their way into the market. That's why they're doing stuff like. Let's get tyler. Do people are going to talk about it on shows like this if they go out and hide joseph what does he mentioned something about coaches thing out too long and not being relevant and then being forgotten about this is i give high hi tyler moore lot of credit for saying getting off the coaching high horse and just thinking the only job that is for me is a head coaching job. That's the problem with a lot of head coaches they they think they're just only a head coach and so they're not gonna come down and become assistant coach any longer. This is a great opportunity for tyler lou to stay with to get back with the guy that he had already been within doc rivers on his staff. He understands how he operates. Doc doc rivers know what he provides is a great fit and now you all of it just so happened. You coats the best player in the n._b._a. Read lebron james and you can inform kowhai lynyrd these defensive-minded guys two way players george all these on on how he goes about his work year in year i over blown hold on what was a why leonard beat lebron head to head in the finals. Paul george got stomped dumped out by lebron twice in the eastern conference finals back when he was wounded indian. I don't know what is going to bring to the table about lebron that the clippers don't already know doc. Doc rivers has been facing lebron in the east for many years when he was with the celtics. I just think this is overblown and i don't want to bash try. Lou is it's different when you when you practice with it versus it's different from playing against an opponent and actually seeing how they worked every single day and have a making building strategically trying to defend them in in practice and setup place for them where they liked the ball how it's completely different when you're practicing with someone versus them being an opponent and watching watching the film and greg your point is excellent from this standpoint jason's the same difference between scouting the team from the outside and a player who was just in ask ask room comes in greg and gives you a my royal the involve the intel that went on behind the scenes you scout all day. It ain't the same yes. I told sold out totally hired. Anthony davis is former head coach. Anthony davis gonna tear up the league next year. They should have brought him in because i guess they desperately clippers. I mean you know oh. This is nice shouldn't even say that. Is it crazy to eyler murray a generational talent eric mangini the foil to rob parker. What's it gives us this answer. Partners rookie cuyler murray steps back on the field tonight against the raiders in his second preseason game murray. It was six for seven for forty four yards on just one series in his debut last week. Cardinal steve kaime obviously thinks highly of the rookie taking him number one overall and trading away the previous year's tenth overall pipe. Josh rosen told the ringer taken this guy number for one. I took a lot of grief for that. You have to make the tough decisions and avoid the outside noise. Why did you give up on this guy. Why did you trade this guy. It's unprecedented unprecedented. I took rosen in the top ten. I just felt murray was a generational talent. I just couldn't pass up. We're now joined by f fest one n._f._l. Analyst eric mangini aka the people's champion eric is it crazy to call four generally and i wear proudly generational talent for kyle murray come on this is overboard overboard and that that term is thrown out so much now so that it's losing any sort of real meaning and i understand why he says it because he had to move on from a head coach. He had to move yvonne from a quarterback that he took him the top then that he gave up draft capital for changing a coaching staff is a huge amount of money getting rid of a quarterback like that. It's not the money used to be but it's still a significant amount of money plus again. What you lost in the potential picks it. You could've brought in so how do you justify that with ownership. How do you justify that with with the people that are making can decisions on whether or not there anymore and the way you do that saying okay. This is a this is a unique opportunity that we have and the reason we need to change head coaches is because is this head coach gives this player the best chance to be successful so so. I understand why it's positioned that way. I like a lot of things about kyle marie. I thought in his first game he did some of the things that i saw in college that i really liked and specifically. He's got a lot of poison the pocket so a lot of running quarterbacks their answer is with their feet so when they feel a little bit of heat they always go to their feet as the first answer keiler has great poisoner pocket. He's willing to let let things unfold goto the second read to me that that part. I really like about him. What don't you like the fact that well. There's a difference between i like something about a guy and and he's a generational talent so what what is a generational talent anyway. Is that once every ten years once every twelve year. What does tom brady then. It's like a like what generation does he applied millennial. You know so yeah they did. There are things that he did really positively in this first game but to give anybody that monica right off the bat i think i also think it's unfair to player on that. Was the other part we're going to ask is. He's putting all of that. Atco steve kerr on this is his job. This is not only just with the cardinals but if he had this go south. Probably he'll never get another opportunity to be a the g._m. Again because of all the mistakes that have lined up so he has to be all in put all the chips in tell everybody so that if it does work out out he'll be able to beat on his chest and say see what i was doing and whatnot for does added pressure to kyle amaury to live up to this tag especially on on a bad team would not degrade offensive line and what if he struggles we saw josh rosen couldn't even really struggle because the team wasn't good when when you say things things like that there is a selfish element to that you're saying it for you. You're not saying it for the player because when you add expectations the players and look he's already got exultation taste because he's number one overall draft pick. You don't have to add to that pressure and it's the same thing you're seeing in cleveland. They keep adding the pressure the expectations and those things don't help expectations that that that's real and that has a real effect on your opponent. That's a real effect on the way that that you who evaluates performances and to add pressure to situations instead of take it off. A young guy to me is is not not the greatest decision. He is a generational racist talent. I'm gonna stick with time here and stick with it. I am because what i've seen out of. This young. Man tells me nothing otherwise period. Did you mean seventeen college starts you can you can say seventeen collar starts all you want but we're in those starts. When i've seen him perform he is produce adduce at a high magnitude in a high level and and i get everyone wants to say is going to put pressure on the player but let me tell you from a player's perspective when you have an endorsement like that from your general manager from your head coach from your ownership from upstairs as we like to look at it in the the locker room you love that i love it because now i can just be me. I don't have to whether i live up to that or not. That's not pressure. Join me. You said it i didn't say it. I'm going to be who i am fans. Look at it like that. When i'm not talking about fans i'm gonna talking about the player but the one that has to go out there so recall. The earliest we picks in his first game is awful. You can't tell me that fans. Go wait a minute. I thought he will only you told me with generational that that's not we're gonna come down on the player. No it's one game unless the best thing everything that he does is already going to be highly scrutinized. If it's not great so so added pressure no pressure he has pressure. He has presser <hes>. It's all about the player you had to understand and i get it apply or ord putting additional pressure on a lot of players. Not all players can handle it now. Every player is lebron james that can handle the throne and being endorsed source as the greatest player in the next coming of michael jordan and all of those things and baker mayfield being a player that you can endorse and say all these great highly things about but the personality of the player tells me that i can do that the personality of kyla murray for all the right reasons and again. I'm not defending. I'm steve come here because he has definitely shown a pattern of inconsistent. Why are you buying into it when he gonna play because of the player player and what i know he can be and what i've seen him do already and coaches alluded to the fact that he doesn't get happy feet in wanna run on right away. He has that poise. He has that posture of a guy. That's been in that backfield behind that office of line in that pocket and has that presence. I love that because it's gonna tell his guys that look. I'm not trying to do this on my own. I need you but when i when i don't have you i definitely can be something especially. Being a rookie is hard and and that that transition is real and we don't give those guys enough credit now being a rookie first round draft graf pick number. One overall is even harder but there's all kinds of things that you have to deal with a new system new coaching staff and i know there's some continuity with the system a new organization innovation where where's the grocery all the take for granted groceries all the things that you take for granted. These guys are going through that whole process and as as a coach and as a organization as general manager. There's a lot of rocks that those guys are carrying and your job is to take some of those rocks and help them carry the load. Your job bob is not to take some off the pile and put it back onto the player and that's my only point is if you if you can make it easier for them and help them that transition and and take a little bit of the pressure off not saying he can't handle it but my job is to make it easier for you not hard for you as you navigate through this really difficult to- uh-huh eric rob mentioned the seventeen starts for karla marine college bill parcells old school guy had said always you need thirty plus starts russell wilson listen forty-six coming out a small quarterback baker mayfield also forty-six college. I'm curious. Do you think any of the reasons calling him. Generational is because the the body of work is so tiny and he was so dominant in one year no. I think he's calling generational because you've got unjustified. Doing i mean like hundred pursue pursue. Do you make that decision to blow up a coaching staff. Blow up a top ten. Pick who's a quarterback to move on from that and and start over with with all the money with all the things that go into that without saying. This is such a unique opportunity. It was too good to pass up in terms of how many starts arts guy has to have or doesn't have to have if anybody has figured out this quarterback puzzle you know they would be a billionaire and and nobody's figured it out. That's why tom brady goes into six around. That's why guys get drafted late in the first instead of where they should be drafted and to have one criteria. I wish there was was one and i wish i had figured it out and so does everybody else but there's not just one thing that says this is the predictor of quarterback success. What do you expect from column or his first year. I mean is that team good enough for him. Is that offensive line good enough. Do you expect it's hard to say because i how well are they going to be able to run the ball. How well are they gonna be able to support him that way and you hear about the air raid offense and look this new transit coming. All the time chip kelly came in he was going to reinvent football. He's back in college football. There's all these guys running shoot. It was the k gun in defensive zone blitz. It was the forty forty six so these concepts come into the n._f._l. And then initially there may be a little bit of a surge that a lot of smart people look at it they figure it out and it just becomes part part of the fabric of the league so i don't think that's going to change it that first series. How did it end and ended with a sack but the two defensive ends were off the also quickly in the backfield so quickly that it does concern you about. He's had no chance. He had no chance on that play. So how many players are there going to be where he has no chance and how are they going to be where he truly gets a an ability to affect. That's a great point because nick foles chip kelly was lights out and then kind of regressed r._g. R._g. Three in washington had a great rookie year. We talked about as expectations go for the cardinals. I mean if they do win three games. You know how do we what are we. Eh cuyler murray. Give jared goff. Was i believe owen seven with the rams as rebound. Guess what jerry got a new coach. I don't think kids grades getting booted in one on you know but when you when you do what you did and you make the statements that you make is three wins the bar if you're the owner of the cardinals. What's your bar when you've spent a lot of money you you've done. A lot of things to put yourself in. This position are when you met in the off season and you decided to go this route. I'm sure there was some criteria set as to. We need to hit these benchmarks. We need to win seven games now or whatever it is now. Look the really good owners in my mind have benchmarks that are outside of just wins because you've got to be able to look at. Are we improving yes. They may may not happen off but are we improving. The growth layers improving is the is the team improving so if you're willing to look at growth and have that patients that that has value i agree with that one hundred percent. I have kids and i tell them all the time with even their sports if i don't see see growth and i see wins. I'm still a little area about the situation but if i see growth and i don't see winds. I'm more prone to stick with something something because there's growth anytime there's growth you can work with it and in this situation yeah. A lot of pressure is going to be put on kyla murray because this is a bad add football team and it's been a bad football team for some time now specifically surrounding the quarterback position and so when you remove a guy like josh rosen and you you already have a very poor offense of line i could see why this is so appealing a kyla murray obviously we're cliff queensberry and annoying. The system works but you feel like well. He can make offensive line better or he can at least show that the offensive line isn't bad or isn't as weak or kind of kind of put a band aid on it if you will because of his escape ability but yet his ability to extend plays and still look down the field and make special things happen. That's why you make a move like only well push back on the growth thing and that sounds good and in a perfect world but that's not where we we are pro. Sports has a short menu wins and losses and if you don't win enough you're going to get fired. I don't care who you are. I don't get that that's what it's about because you have to trying to sell tickets. There's all kinds of stuff that goes into financially during no more five year plans. They used to be eric where where people say okay. We got five years. We'll draft our quarterback. We'll do that. No if you don't win a couple years you gotta get somebody else. There is this element of and you sit with the owners and they way wii to cook a turkey but they want you to cook it in a microwave well okay but if you want to build an organization that has the ability to compete for championship year in year out it's not easy easy and it takes continuity and the great organizations have continuity and the ones that have continuity prey on all the other organizations that are constantly transitioning and getting getting rid of good players and you know they're throwing out a bunch of really good players so those those established places just bring 'em in bring him in and and are constantly have have a competitive edge so there has to be an and most owners are successful businessmen. There has to be a global vision of what the team is going to look like like so if you just say you got to win in one year okay. You're probably going to be put well. You're pretty much a one year was going to ask you. How does it turkey tasted a microwave. I'm sure you're gonna tastes exactly how you'd think it would have a culinary expert as you are. It takes probably how you it almost sounds like he's talking about your patriots. They're the great organ all these lease low in ten years without winning. Everybody acts like they won. Every eric will give you the final word on on <hes> rob parker bashing the patriots look. We've been through this. This is like a beat down on a treadmill. You know just keeps going and going and i went back to mock awesome up and send you home. We will see you tomorrow. Indeed issues too much to overcome former all pro brokeout turley joins us next another day goes by and still no deal for dak prescott amari cooper or ezekiel elliott. Jerry jones says he wants to keep his young core together and doesn't want to lose any of the stars jerry however does have full faith in zeke staying in shape shape despite holding out missing camp jerry told reporters he expects zeke to hit the ground running in week one. We're now joined by former all all pro offensive lineman kyle turley kyle how are you. I'm doing well with great to have you. What are you making this mess. That is the cowboys. It's the cowboys right yes yes. It wouldn't be the cowboys. If it wasn't a mess. You know coming into the season. I don't think about who they do. Do they need the most on cowboys voice team. You know people talk about dak or zeke. The offense is set up with iran and how important is zeke elliot to that team and what they're trying to do is get to a super bowl. I grew up a cowboys fan. Because of tony dorsett you know the cowboys have a pedigree of running backs and understanding understanding the importance of that so i would assume that that this would come together here a lot sooner than now especially without today's anymore. All these things the discussions discussions about whether or not going to be in shape if you're down in kabul. I'm sorry i was in and out of there for about ten years. You're not getting in shape. You're you're doing a lot of partying too. You know there's a lot of distractions and so hopefully they just you know get down there. In texas. The cowboys should get that <hes> a a team rounded up if you will as a former lineman you know much mid made of the cowboys offensive line's tremendous. It's awesome deck with sack fifty six times last year second most in the league i don't know do you think there is an issue with jackie. You know the traditional stats say he's fine. He's good. He's right there with carson wentz. Some of the advanced metrics say's not nearly as good. Your thoughts dak prescott being a thirty million dollar quarterback. I mean his thirty million dollar quarterback as anybody else right. Now you know i mean the season comes. Season goes injuries happen. A lot of high paid guys go down. You know money spent money. Earn wasted the national football. League injuries injuries happened. He's a guy who has proven himself to have a worth and the more growth you get in this league. The better you get so the chance enroll in that dice yes with something else is not happening. That's for sure if for me when i look at the dallas cowboys and i listened to what jerry jones is saying now it is specifically about ezekiel ezekiel elliott and hitting the ground running week one hitting the ground running week one like that in and of itself that comment. Let's me know that he knows. I'm gonna have this deal done before we want so when once we get to week one ezekiel elliott we'll be rolling. I'm not so set on him not being in shape because he's proven that he can. He can stay fit. He can train in kabul as he's done this before and he can come back ready to roll my biggest issue with the dallas. Cowboys is making sure that everyone is on the same page in making sure that dak prescott what has all guys on deck all hands on deck because this is a big year for him regarded against his deal this contract done. He's he's still you talk about pressure. You talk about living up to a contract. He's still gonna have something to prove because he's the one that is not proven that he can just berkshire the low. We've seen what amari cooper has done in oakland. We say what he's done. When these come in late with the dallas cowboys we know who ezekiel elliott is but dak prescott is the one that he's been consistent. He's earned what he's he's gonna get but kenny take his game to the next level. That's the question question here for me and kyle when when you look at the cowboys. I think my part is you. Gotta be real careful that you don't want to disrupt. You're talking about hit the ground running on week one it could be it could be dangerous to come into a season not fully loaded with all your all your guns and then lose games early on you know two teams that you probably should beat could be the difference between you're making the playoffs as a wildcard team compared appeared to winning a division. How important is that well. It's paramount. I mean you got sixteen chances. That's it you know. I mean especially in the beginning of the season. You have to set the tone own for what your team what your seasons going to look like and you know having these distractions not good at the end of the day period training kabul not good at the end of the day you know period you know there's there's certain things that need to be addressed. If you wanna continue to have a long career i personally cellino that you know that at this moment in this the same thing happened with tony romo k. on vacation down gaba. Come on come come on. That's that's not that's not happening and so it's paramount that you start this season with your guys. They don't have two days no more they don't even you know i mean they got limited. Chances to be together. I know these guys have been there and all but at the end of the day <hes> the money's there the money's going to continue to be there <hes> jerry very knows. He's got to get it done. A lot of this is just drama in my opinion and unfortunately where the league is today so as an offensive lineman. You don't have your starting running back. You're you're going into practice and you're going into preseason games with tony pollard in cast. Don't forget amari cooper practice in two. I'm going to focus on running. Okay and your been. You've been having struggles. That's offensive line. We obviously we know who the dallas cowboys are. Their identity is based around the run. How frustrating frustrating isn't as lyman when when the running back isn't there to hit those holes the way you know he'd typically his those holes yeah well. You know go back and ricky and i got into it. You know there was you had to have continuity. Continuity is king in the national football league especially the running game when that ground game goes out on that field if those offensive linemen are confident in their bag of their backs on confidence from knowing and how we work because it's a game aventis and miniscule things that people just don't see especially in those trenches and to have that knowledge as ezekiel knows very well <hes> <hes> is as much of a key to his success as anything and so you know again hopefully the biggest smart gagging camp <hes> you know you can run as many san san sprints down there and get the skin board out and stuff but come on let me ask another question because i it's tough for me like greg doesn't sound like he's nervous about the cowboys. He's confident week one so jerry jones but is this just a media creation because there's all these talk shows and we've got time to discuss all this the stuff i mean from the inside when you were with the saints. Can you recall any moments where players are holding out players. Not showing up players were injured in out. Is there any panic inside inside with two weeks to go to the season. Of course you always have contract issues. The game is a business at the same time but again. You know it's image and it's what are you really. They doing is your focus. One hundred percent i can tell you mine wasn't in kabul when i was down there in the off. Season wasn't one hundred percent focused on my goal of getting healthy getting back act two where i knew i needed to be for the end of my career. You know and that's what unfortunately i think. These young guys don't really understand because of the media of everything in the game today ah has become more of that and their dream has been lost you know if he could get back to those ohio missouri days and think back in that mindset. He said you know he wouldn't be in kabul. He knows where he needs to be and i think you know as a player from the offensive line position every position. You're going to have all this business drama. The the owners need to step up and start acting like the owners that they should not leave all this drama out here on the shoulders of young men. You know if you're gonna into central quick drew brees last year at the end of the year. It seemed like from he was going to win the m._v._p. In the first half and then his armed and seeing the same and even even late in the season is he okay. Is he going to be able to to <hes> bounce back from. What was the second ons tom brady. He's he's an older quarterback and he was no you don't you don't they have like a protective shield around them. That is like a a bubble silence safe zone blooming rules regulate yeah yeah he's got every opportunity more than every opportunity than any other quarterback in the national football league with sean payton at the helm the defense now again. The saints are contender every time and especially with drew brees. I see the saints tat joe morgan out. I have no more need. He's insane. I know the last two years they have been eliminated in brutal fashion in the playoffs of course the minnesota miracle and the miscall. I can they bounce. Do you think they can bounce back for a third straight year to come back and make a run at the super bowl go i i hope so because they definitely got robbed last year. They should have been in atlanta. I don't think there wasn't a bigger party in that town. Then when the saints lost i want a super bowl in atlanta and that that shouldn't have happened so going down to miami this year where the saints won the super bowl last time so i'll put my bets down that florida league wow all right. Thank you kyle good stuff. Coming up. Living bell has not played a game and almost six hundred days days says he doesn't need the preseason reps. Reggie bush joins us to ask bell is right now. We haven't seen levy the on bell in a game action in over a year after he held out last season with the steelers. It might be another week before we see them. Take the field in a jets uniform head coach. Adam gays won't say whether or not bill will play tonight. I the falcons but bell doesn't it can receive and reps are necessary say that a couple of plays all he needs to be ready to go. Oh we're joined now by super bowl champion and u._s._c. legend reggie bush reggie. This levy on bell need the reps after missing the last last year. Yes he needs to reps. He hasn't taken any hits and almost six hundred days. That's a long time to not be hit in. The game is always changing. That's not the pittsburgh steelers organization now sam darnold throwing the football. I mean it's not big been throwing. The football said different different system. It's a different teams different players. It takes years and years and years to build chemistry you notice especially with the quarterback receiver relationship but especially actually the running back. Who's the workforce at team and so to me. It's not necessarily of if he needs reps because he very much may not need those reps but maybe the team needs you out there right. You still live on bill and i know a lot of times for training camp or preseason. You know a lot of veteran battering guys and i was i was there you don't wanna go out and preseason because you got a bunch of young out there flying around and going one hundred miles an hour doing everything they can to to make the football team off of your name. Maybe but you still live on bill right. You still wanted to coldest running backs to ever play his game. This game has offered right now and even with that europe. I would still say that because that's how much i respect him and his game and what he does but there's chemistry that we gotta get to write. It takes years years to build that championship organization. It don't just happen when you show up on sunday. It starts back in o._t._a.'s off. Season workouts training training camp minicamp. That's how we get to this thing and so to me. You know i understand louisville's position. You know maybe he doesn't need it but maybe the team needs you. I like that he's not really being involved from the standpoint of more and more than the n._f._l. Where veterans on partaken he is just on playing. Even the league wants to eliminate eliminate two preseason games and not even use those anymore. You know they wanna make them your regular season game for money wise and the last time we saw labianca he had had four hundred touches and i bet his body feels good and whatever yes to doing practice. I'm not so sure he really needs to have one series because he's he's not going to play a game. It's really one series what is going to get. I mean regio carries or ems. Last year sat out the tire of where he sees one offensive starter took it on bell's new jets but isn't this the new normal we gotta protect guys you do want to protect yourself right and so if bill had missed the the season chill of coral hey relax. You don't need it because you have the experience right. There's a flow to this to this thing that happens right year in year route. You know that i trying to when you hitting you. There is a shock that happens to your body that is unlike any other shock that you ever experience and and it takes time for you to get adjusted to the hits right to the to the <hes> you know getting your body ready the next day whether it's through therapy he or just taking care of body carparks massage therapist. There are so many things that go into being healthy and being ready for each day. It doesn't just happen on sundays. Yeah i'm with reggie on in this one and i i definitely think he needs the reps simply because he hasn't had the reps since two years ago and yes he he led the league in touch with four hundred touches in rushing yards and he was third all these great things and we know who he is. I don't care if it's just from in year to year when you haven't taken that hitler. It's something about going and actually getting that hit to get those cobwebs out to two filling. I can still do this one thing about being on the sideline. I don't care who you are. I don't care if it's injury. I don't care if it's you set out a whole year. We you watching guys play you start. It starts mentally messing with you like man. I was making those kind of because you start seeing things that are spectacular and you like and it's almost like do. I still still got it. I i believe i still got it but you start. Your mind starts working against you in ways where it's like man. I need to get back out there and so for me lady. I'm embel-. It's not so much about does. He need it because he's fresh. It's yes he needs it because the game is what it is and he knows that like everyone. Everyone talks about receiver quarterback chemistry and how they need to put that time in in the off season training camp and antonio brown needs to be there because he needs to understand the scheme and and get on the same page with their car was no different with the running back and in the offensive line just had linear. That's not going on and prosper the set all. I'm just saying it is but it's different in the games. The old holes open and close quicker in the games and they do in practice right away. Quick way on when you're running back. Can you and you're watching your offensive line. You're getting understanding of how they block. It's it's gotta hit that gap and he turns that you kind of know what he's gonna. Do you ready can speak to this because this has been his position all his life with bill not being in pittsburgh as eluded to you're not you're not watching the same running running backs or the offensive line. You're not gonna have that same opportunity of knowing. You know what i know. What policy does i've been doing this with him for years. You know he hasn't been doing this with these. These guys so now yes. You're getting it in training camp but you're not getting it in game action. In game speed. He needs that the jets have to new starters on the offensive line and it's not nearly as good as the pittsburgh often which is the top five unit in the league and he has a very unique running style line and a team has to adjust to him later realistic expectations reggie for bell given what adam gazes done with matt forte in chicago as dual threat and kenyan drake last year in miami. I go up there and get your six plays right. You're not going to be out of here for that long anyway. Go get your six plays right humerus. We know that in this open field wanna one and nobody tackling komo period. I don't care who it is humorous. We know that on the side of there might be a couple of young guys as going to give a hundred and ten percents tackle you to try to make make the highlight play. Only i'm bill but you still live on bill and you still got one of the coldest moves that i've ever seen in his game so to me guate- humour for your six plays. It ain't gonna be that much. It's not going to be that that many plays anyway. I love to move beyond the jets. I really would sam darnold. I expect a big year for me to really do because you're gonna have to respect that ron. Sam donal has a big arm. He also could catch them. The backfield that relationship is going to be so important throughout this season because like you just alluded to lay on bill is just as much as a threat catching the ball out of the backfield as he is running the football and again sam darnold. This is only his second year your last year he has some good signs and he shows some signs right rookie year right. It was a rookie year and so they're depending on to be a leader for this football team and they're dependent on later on to help sam to take some of their load off of him so go out there and humus for a couple of plays and have we'll get let me ask a forward thinking here so levian last year decided almost sit out because i want to get. My money didn't really work out for him no did he did he order. You gotta get more problem is if he played last year and got her and then get any contract and nobody would be a big. A millionaire melda possible hold awesome melvin gordon is now maybe doing the same with the chargers and ezekiel elliott who has two years left kind of doing the same. Is this the new normal for running backs. Everybody's like reggie is a former running back. See he's worked for running. Back still doesn't lead you said no no work for us. The running back position has been watered down and i think what we're seeing. Now is a lot of younger running backs on a young guys understanding. I have a small window of opportunity to make the most money possible because they're different different games and tricks that teams play to run you into the ground and then trade your way to same way. They did demarco murray right if i'm ezekiel elliott i'm looking at what they did tomorrow and i'm saying okay i gotta get my money right way more passenger more passing right and so i think running backs are our understanding that i gotta get my money now. While i'm young <hes> because once you get to twenty seven twenty eight contracts i rolling in like that. I'll tell you about one big contract as a running back and that's it. That's it like this'll be zeke's big contract and then most likely he'll get. Maybe a lower like two year deal three year deal. Maybe for a little bit of money but it's hard hard to get two or three big contracts and i love what i'm seeing because i think now running backs are understanding. Okay positions watered down so when all i'm high i gotta get it while i'm i'm hot so melvin gordon. Would you advise him. Hey melvin i would show up in camp because nobody straight doesn't appear anybody's trading for him and yeah it looks like he could possibly sit out the full full season a full season and he's he has a pretty decent offer on a table. I believe i don't know the numbers right now but from what i've heard he has a pretty decent offer on the table. He's the girlie girlie money and he's not super girly money. If they're giving it out here just reset. The marquette can get more money so we heard stephen jones say that exact thing on the radio. He said the runningback market has been reset will on bell. We pay attention to those yes right so that's what they're saying is that we ain't giving utah girly money. We about to give you leaving on bail money but you got to take a look at if you're running back in these situations aw whether you're melvin gordon where the chargers have a good team have an open window would've veteran quarterback. You can't wait same thing with the cowboys running back you gotta say this is my moment here trying to win and this is a way for another year or so. I'll get hurt or something happens and i'm not going to get paid and the other thing is it's more than just running the football as a running back you have to block you involved in a lot of other things where you can get hurt a lot and so i've always said sorry not to cut uh-huh. I've always said that the running back position is one of the toughest positions because you're always outweighed is different than when you when you in boxing right you fight and somebody who's your size is and who who's your wait for the most part and football you gotta block d. tackle us three hundred pounds. You gotta block aaron. Donald you got a block down. Mccain sues right those are not easy people especially one as a running back linebackers who are coming round of these at our bliss of a you're always having to do you know block somebody who is. Are they outweigh you or they may be a little bit faceting. You're an uncompromising position in so for me. When i go back to lay beyond on bill he's already had four hundred touches. The last time we saw that was with the pittsburgh steelers they had several weapons around that was with the pittsburgh steelers he had four hundred touches with a second year quarterback with the jets can't have more than that do you. I think he's gonna have worn four hundred four. They kept allow powell. They're not giving him four hundred look. They're going to count on him to bear the load. He can come really close. I'm not he may not have four hundred touches. He's gonna come close you pay him that money you expected him to take some of the load off your young quarterback not only in a running game but as we mentioned in the passing game as well and we all know the best friend of a running over quarterback a young quarterback is having a guy that you can turn to and check it down to ball yes when i was in minnesota and teddy bridgewater was at quarterback. All i heard from office coordinator in in headphones was us a check down. You've checked out all we heard as a receiver. You hate that once. You understand the importance of with the young developing quarterback because they've got to go through those progressions can cuyler murray possibly live up to expectations. That's next cardinals. Lookie cuyler murray's steps back on the field tonight against the raiders in his second preseason game cards g._m. Steve obviously thinks highly of the rookie by taking him number one overall overall and calling him generational talent however there has been skepticism around the league at the heisman winners electric style and short stature will translate from the college to the pros all right reggie bush. You have some experience in that area <hes> he's one of the the town. I let him answer that. What do you expect to see from kyle murray as he adjusts from the big twelve yeah well. It's going to be tough because has i believe colin. Murray is on a team with a bunch of unproven guys. We can start with the head coach who there's gonna be a grace period period. I think that everybody's gonna need to adjust to because column or not only on a team with not a lot of weapons but he's also in a division as very tough and the one one thing i worry about for colin murray is can they protect him right because in the last preseason game we saw some good throws we saw some rhythm throws was awesome good decision making talking and then we saw the offense aligned breakdown and so to me. That's the one thing i'm worried about because you gotta blocks aaron donald right the best somebody people have referred him as the michael michael jordan of foot football right now and he doesn't have a ton of weapons around him on top of that right. He got a lot of unproven guys. You have a good running back and david johnson but david johnson has struggled last year struggle over the last couple of years so to me. There's gonna be a figuring it out period with the head coach you know with the quarterback and is going to be tough on. I don't wanna sit here and say. Is he a generational player. Everybody's a generational player amount of college right. We all have success college or else. We would've never made it to the n._f._l. But what you did in college does not help you any n._f._l. Period i was gonna say but g._m. Time like to put out there on them. I know fire. He's under the fires are already to he has to put all his chips then but that puts added pressure on a guy who's trying to make that transition who's a little smaller than everybody so right away if they struggle ogle whatever it'll be like generational. You know what i mean. You could be generous applied on a bad football right right like i've seen more players careers get killed because because of bad systems at their end because maybe the coaching wasn't right for them right we've seen also players who have gone to other teams and have great careers because of the system that they were in a guy that i played. I got drafted robin inca vich right when i was in new orleans we cut robbing vich twice. I believe sean payton even and said he didn't think he would be any more than a a a long snapper wa right so then in. I think this is you know as i think sean is even joked about this before but then look in that with robin and give his deal with the new england patriots to me. That's a matter of systems right. It's a matter of coaching right like when you go to a system with good coaching coaching got good pieces around. You always great. It's lovely but when you're on a team where you have to be the guy you have to. Everybody's depend on you. That's a lot of press realm. Quick example examples draymond green with golden state nets circumstance and situation was perfect but the other question. We talked about this earlier reggie if they don't hire cliff kingsbury brie skyler murray go number one overall so i don't think anybody i don't think so at all. I was reading some articles last night. Where jim was talking about how he was actually washing games. Watch quitting any williams and some other guys and he couldn't take his eyes off her collar murray and so does it fit with clip kingsbury system. Yes it does. I think it fits better than what josh josh rosen would have fit but his restaurant. His career is going to be tied to this garage kingsbury in g._m. Their career is going to be tied to him. I like kingsbury. Worry a lot but let's remember. He was fired from a school. That didn't do much last year. In the middle of the season gregg ahead go ahead. I mean i know what the expectations are but for me. When i look at colin murray you talk about a growing process in growing pains. That's what it's going to always be for young quarterback coming dan but for kyle murray in his ability to lead in be endorsed by your general manager by your head coach having that endorsement in and of itself alone gives you an added confidence to a player who already knows in his own mind how good he really is and what what he can he can bring to the table now is he gonna completely right the shit no because they have a lot of holes and voids the feel specifically typically right in front of him that are going to be protecting him that is not on kyla murray but what i think he will provide is opportunity for those guys to buy even more time because his escape ability because of his ability to extend plays and keep his is down the field and still make plays he is he is the type of player sure that will make guys around him better reggie though i'll hold on we talk about dak prescott in the meeting to bring bring guys around him to elevate his level level of play and to improve reu he is. That's the difference between a guy like him. He and cuyler murray colin murray is the type of guy you insert and he's going to automatically elevate the guys level the play around him because he has that game breaking skillset both do running and passing the ball but i'm with reggie from the standpoint that sometimes the times you put a guy with a talented guy on a really bad team and all of a sudden. You can't do those things that he doesn't have the time. He's getting pummeled. Everybody's looking go away. Mccollum murray is supposed to be this and that and that's what i worry about with this organization has made a lot of blunders over the year and i say this with all due respect to customer alamar because i do think he's a great talent but he's not the first running quarterback. He's not the quarterback with the scape ability right like there's a guy named aaron. Rodgers will you play with who to me is a genius genius who was a mastermind at escaping an even he has gotten her. He doesn't have the speed no no no he but he can buy more time for <music> seaver as go owned a wireless. He's so good because this this is a difference between a running quarterback and a dual threat quarterback lamar jackson. That is a running quarterback. I like primarily his thought when things break down i'm running. I'm taking off. Column is not that way. We heard airmen geneva sit. It has poise enough to where in a pocket presence to where i'm going to stand in there i know i have my legs as a scapegoat as a my last resource source but it's not primary. I'm going to use my legs secondary with my arm. Is everything that i need. I feel so bad for this kid man. We're talking about aaron rodgers in the same. The sentence as skylon eras was played. What two years at cal sat for three years behind brentford kyla. Marie had seventeen starts in college and is now going into the calling. I'm a generational talent. Baker mayfield and russel wilson are kind of the prototypes smaller quarterbacks. They had forty six starts in college reggio. I mean how much does the reps this matter but they matter a lot a lot and and listen for college murray you know the the biggest question is are they gonna be able to protect them right because even even with the reps we can sit here and talk about all the reps that he did or didn't get at the college level. He was great and caused period. Dwayne haskins was great in concert teens thirty touchdowns and one season right like there's gonna be. There's gonna be a grace period that ohio state fans are going to need to adjust to because i'm not sure justin some fields can go out there and give them that same production but in a sense of collar murray the one thing i worry about with defenses and defense coordinators as they know he's short and they know that in order for him to create more time to open up windows receivers. He's got to do what he's got escaped. He's got to do some things with his legs right so what they're gonna do is. They're gonna blitz him from all from all edges or they're going to make sure that their defensive lineman rush those gaps. Don't let him outside their pocket. Keep them in there and just put your hands up ugly for alabama. Did that a lot in early in the title quick note on the offensive line the cardinals us thirteen different starters on the offensive line last year the most i anybody's used in the last eighteen years. That's a bad sign for colorado. Not a good sign for you. Mentioned justin feels in college football. Let's pivot there. We love college football. I haven't had a chance to talk like a lot about many things. I know you're geeked for the new show. Tell us about a college football. I'm excited. I'm excited to be back in college football. I can't wait on with a great supporting cast matt liner brady quinn and coach urban meyer man who doesn't wanna work with one of the greatest coaches to ever cost a game. I'm back with my brother matt. Me and brady are already hitting it off having a good time and i'm looking forward to it. You know this is crazy because so much of the college game has changed right like everything's r._p._o. Now everything everybody's offenses r._p._o. Everybody wants to score as many touchdowns as fast as they can so the game has changed right and so i'm learning so much about how much has changed but there's also a lot of great players man. I was studying on guys last night. Guys like raheel more guys like a la vista purdue from purdue hundred and fourteen receptions as a rookie freshman. He's a hundred and fourteen. Are we going to see the same two teams at the end of the year though and a championship or something to get ready alabama clemson fast woah to the thing that we were you more excited to see next year tour trevor lawrence i gotta go to the new kid on the block doc trevor lawrence yes listen. I'm a fan of greatness and i think sometimes people can kinda give board with greatness right because to has been doing at a high level for a while trevor. Trevor lawrence's like the new kid on the block that it's like. We're this guy come from took his team to the national championship in the first season right one it threw six touchdowns astounds playoff. No interceptions like we're talking about a freshman. I think he was barely eighteen years old still wet behind the ears well. That's that's why i'm so excited because he's not not only doing it as a freshman but his main target a freshman is was a freshman as well so they're gonna go in excel together. It's going to be impressive a the <hes> five hundred dollars on the edmonton. Kellyanne get this jimmy garoppolo. Oh through five straight interceptions of practice yesterday. Wait till you hear what greg has to say about his guy. Jimmy maximum practice we talking about brad miss matteucci day yesterday for forty niners quarterback jimmy garoppolo he threw five straight interceptions is in practice head coach cal shan and tried to brush it off saying it's good to see how guys react to adversity and also praising his defense for their play. Eh jimmy g. is making his return after tours a._c._l. In week three last year oh boy mr rob parker. Jimmy garoppolo five straight picks pixes is the guy over hyped he is over hyped and not just based off the five interceptions in practice so greg the fall out of his chair that i'm making such such a big deal but my goodness i mean for the ones about a small sample size. I mean this this is he just hasn't played a lot and got it he. He's been injured but you got the big contract. Everybody's all about jimmy g. Oh my goodness. He's going to be that he was supposed to be. Tom brady's replacement. It's been handpicked by bill belichick and all this you said it to. I need no what i need to see more from him. Perform ready to crown him anything. I'm not out there. Seventeen touchdowns eight picks. He's got a eight and to record the numbers of small in ten games. I mean in twenty four games so so i'm not totally there on jimmy. I think we need to see this is the year we need. You talk to him. Yes he's over hyped. He is over hyped to this point. I want to see him for a full season. I wanna see this guy perform and see where he is and what it what all the hubbub is about because i haven't seen it yet other than a handful of games where he's played. No he's not over high. We haven't even we haven't had a chance to even really hype him up. He got a big on strike greg. He he wasn't on what was that all that was off of his performance in the plane and then he made in the time that he was a lot of play behind. Tom brady will big contract offer all through six game. Look that was earned that based off of what he did and what he showed in the forty niners paid them. That's not my problem but let me get back to these. Five intercepts is here we go allen iverson said it best practice. We're talking about probably talking about five interceptions in practice. Are these going on his stat sheet for his career. We talking about practice and we want to sit here and talk about jimmy g. do we do. We track the amount of touchdowns guys throwing practice because they have red zone period. They have third-down blitz. They have team periods goal line all these we don't ever come back on these shows and say you you know what jimmy garoppolo through eight touchdowns in practice today because this practice don't nobody care about a five in a row. That's not unusual. It is unusual but that's practice is used for that to get better to make all your mistakes oriental door. How many mistakes make make them all in practice. Don't make it in the game. Let's see if he trans transfers that performance over to the field of play but i really was about practice more so could you don't play as many games so football. How do you warn your way on the field. Greg and football isn't it in practice. It is in practice is but you better you better for darsur. Make some plays in the game. Get it but that's how you get there yeah but how you stay always how you stay in this league is much who do own sunday. What was it knock on. Tim teaboy always a bad practice player which translates into a bad regular season play rob your way off here. I have notes for every we segment okay. This is what i have for jimmy concern whatsoever jordi proud to give you all the goods first of all. I love the forty niners this year <hes> we talked with reggie bush in the commercial. He likes him as well. Jimmy garoppolo just keeps getting hurt. That's is only problem. I'm not worried about practice nor should you bash aaron rodgers for getting purpose jimmy garoppolo last six years aaron rodgers had been missing lowly elastic so here's my issue with the forty niners right now they went out and they got running backs. They got like five running backs kevin coleman all these guys. They got like four receivers who were good. I just worry about the cohesiveness if jimmy g. can't stay on the field the interceptions as greg said don't worry about it. He's not over hyped as long as he can play. If go bella annoys you the next guy. I mean it's bill belichick. He's usually wrong wrong about it was in cleveland. You want to go back twenty five years. We're going back up. Was he wrong or was he right on everything he does. Come on man with jill g. I got it. Jimmy is not over hyped we have have we seen enough of him. Possibly not but what we have seen has been very special what we've seen. I'm with him in that helmet in that uniform. He has proven that he can win when he starting when he's under him. That's why he got paid that monday san francisco before he got wait. You mean the last five games that he won when he took against to it doesn't matter it. Does it matter. It doesn't matter because this is this is what we do. You did is baker mayfield hashtag inconsistent raw when baker mayfield you you had to make sure you isolated the scheduled to see okay. Let's look at the teams over five hundred autumn. Let's look at the teams over five hundred but he took care of the teams that he needed to. That's what we're asking quarterbacks. Do you gotta win the games that used supposed to win. That's all the sport win the game. You're supposed to win this lebron. James was well let dogs when he lost. All these teams. You're saying melody lost her dogs. How did he lose to the hawks. It doesn't matter matter. You're supposed to win the game. You're supposed to win that are laid out for you and that's what jimmy garoppolo has done but also go to the next level. You gotta be able to beat some good teams so so the jury's out for me or jimmy garoppolo. I'm on a cell. There is talent o on his talent. I've seen enough. I just haven't he might be a flash in the pan. We've we've had guys like that around well. I'll tell you don't go to yesterday's practice or don't watch yesterday's practice field because you think that that's the barometer of everything five interceptions absolutely hey. Let's say you were at practice one day and your quarterback those five street picks. The reaction from the receivers is like komen then. What are you doing absolutely. I'm gonna say get open. Greg is there so it's not always like so. We know this quarterbacks order backs. They take the stat and it goes on their stat. We don't see what the receivers done if it was a tipped ball if it was a dropped interception that created gated interception. It's not always on the quarterback. I wasn't at practice yesterday and even if i was i know how i know what he can provide. Has he thrown five interceptions receptions in the game. Does he is he. Is he been proven that he's gonna throw interceptions. Gonna make the playoffs yes or no yes. I'm going to say yeah. I'm gonna i'm gonna hesitate because i need to see more out of them as he lay off. I know when he if he's there. They have a chain more than a chance. I gotta took visit speaking of playoffs gentlemen to sam darnold. Oh yeah here we go baby to sam. Darnold really have the tools to be an all time great. You know what i i think. What are these guys think. This practice re talking about this for a final topic of the day. The new york jets jets play caller. Sam darnold is impressing a lot of former q._b.'s heading into his second year in the league on monday. Jets legend joe namus darnold could physically weekly play as well as anybody tuesday. Tony robo weighed in said darnold has got that thing. The great ones have rob. I feel like the questions. Russians now will but when will sam darnold being all time great. I think he has a potential. I'm with the other guys i really do. Sam darnold prototypical typical quarterback strong arm nice lady on bell. That's going to help them this year to be able to develop last year. He had over two hundred and twenty yards. It's a game which was a jets record. I'll have one shy of joe name. It's rookie record as far as <hes> touchdowns with seventeen we know he had his bumps and lumps started. What'd out interceptions forty everything fifteen interceptions so i'm i'm not but it was a rookie. I'm not saying he was going to be great from day one but i think the jets finally have their franchise quarterback that they're going to be able to plug in for the next twelve fourteen years and i believe he will take over the a._f._c. Ah tom brady finally a brady. Take like okay all time great. I'm going to pause on that because i don't want. I don't want to say anything like generational talent. The two soon guys had all time great our generation we're already. We're already seeing all time great. He has the potential possibly we'll see. He threw for less than three thousand yards. Which is i look. Let's look baker mayfield one of the all-time great now to says the potential rate system. I don't wanna hear all of that. He had a different coach even calc life sam darnold. Let's pause on all time great. Would he be does he have the potential year but sodas everyone who comes in a little darnall dave one rough rookie year interception wise. I just want to note in december right right and to the season. He's starting to get up to speed on his talent around him. On the opponents. The opposing defenses sixty four percent completions seven point four yards per attempt sixteen pick. I saw growth key theme in this show today and improvement from darnold throughout the year folks. I'm not overestimating it. With the addition of levy beyond bellas he said jamison crowder a great slot receiver one of the best slot receivers in the league and the atom gays system. Sam darnold will be tremendous this year. This is the guy who is the youngest starting quarterback in the n._f._l. Last year he he will be much improved this year. I'm not knocking sam darnold by any stretch but to say all time great. I think that's a more reach than generational talent. I got a lot of money on to win the super bowl. That's it for us. Thanks for listening to the undisputed ended podcast. I'm johnny tapped. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 498: Controversial Championship Games (1-21-2019)

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 498: Controversial Championship Games (1-21-2019)

"This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports, the Golden State media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB the NBA to MMA? It's all in here. The Golden State media concepts sports Bod cast, listen. Calorie. Welcome with the GMC sports podcast. Brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I'm your host Jeff Mallon off with me as always as Mark Souso. We got two very controversial games. I guess one. Controversial the other was pretty competitive, but there are some questions to that game as well. And but we gotta start, of course with the NFC championship game Rams in saints Rams are going into Super Bowl. After a field goal was made fifty seven yards to seal it. And now the question is not about the field goal. Not about the touchdowns. It was about a no call that happened pretty late in the game. At the it would've would've Braun the saints to the one yard line that pass interference. But we're he'd mainly just tackle the nailed the tackles is light were to us. He nailed the guy coming off the the throw and he couldn't even reach the ball. And yet there was no pass interference call in the Superdome. Let the row. Habit. It was pretty intense booing in a lot of hissing hollering. And people think that was the reason the Rams won that game. Would you agree Mark? I mean, it wasn't the reason why the Rams won the game. But it's definitely one of the worst miscall. Oh, yeah. In sports history. I mean, I think we can I don't think we're overstepping when we say that this was one of the worst calls of all types like the tuck rule or. Yeah. Basically the tuck rule wasn't a miscall just about rule like a dumb rule that was remembered like the tuck rule, right? So that's what I'm implying. So this game will be remembered. Absolutely for that one way horrible miscall because the thing is not only was it pass interference. There's also Mattel the contact. They could actually thrown a flag for two different fouls on the same. They would have been at the half distance legal inch either way either way. The ball would either been at the six yard line or about the ten if they called a personal foul, but the saints would have had the ball with a minute forty four left and the Rams could only stop the clock one more time. So they would've kneeled three times and then kicked a field goal. Whether or not we'll let's makes it we don't know. But about a twenty seven yard field goal is ninety five percent for today's kicker. So does he make it probably I would say ninety plus percent chance that he makes it wins the game we say ninety five. Yeah. We'll never know. But regardless the Rams would not have had an opportunity to get the ball. John Wayne was going to kill someone. I thought shopping was get attack one of the rafts. I really did. He looked like he was gonna choke one. They give you just gonna a poll. Yeah. Sure. The rest didn't even hear the crowd noise. They just heard jumping because he was going. Absolutely. Can you you can't blame the guy. I can't blame Sean Payton for that. But I can blame Sean Payton for the loss. How so. Well, first off on first down. He throws an incomplete pass. Yeah. That that was a big big missile. We know that shown pain is a risk taker he never plays conservative. And even when he has the best running arguing the best running American League in Alvin Kamara. He's still doesn't run the ball as often as should. Yeah. And the situation calls for around there because it's under two minutes. The defense kind kinda have them on the ropes at that point like they need to stop. And by you throwing the football you allow them to stop the clock without burning a timeout and commerical get that first down. It's very possible chance to get a gun that first down. And the thing is is that the play that they called was a little slant. Route to Thomas underneath a another receiver kind of setting a screen. Familiar like pick place. So it wasn't very high percentage pass like I get I get what they were doing. But again, you throwing the football you allow yourself the opportunity to be scrutinized and. Hell, yeah. It didn't work out. And what happened was it changes? Second and ten the Rams still have a time out like that changes the complexity of the Rams timeout whole different story. Right. I believe that only one time I left so too. So fortunately for Sean Payton, a blown calls what the game will be remembered remembered by not him this managing the game. You know? But well, we've known for years now that champagne is not conservative. And I think it really show and he's he's just trying to score as fast as possible in that situation. That's not what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to bring out the clock. And maybe even take it down to one second for you scores. So they don't have a chance to score back Tampa thing. Yeah. So that's just one. Yeah. We'll never know what happened of what would have happened. But. We we have a better idea. We know the saints at a better chance of winning. If they'd ran the ball. I John play. That's just a fact also the saints were in the Rams red zone five times and scored two touchdowns for that team. That's thirteen and three one of the best offenses in the NFL that shocking. So that's another thing. Like, yes. This game. Be remembered by the terrible call, but we cannot excuse the fact that the saints had a lot of missed opportunities to win this game. They also have the ball first and overtime that through interceptions. So that interception. Was that Bill betted? So I know like Micheal Thomas rain into the defender before he picked the ball up. That's why some people said that was probably for inst-. But I thought that wasn't passing TI. Yeah. The bowl was. Ball wasn't tip. But it was a it was a that's a hail Mary. And you're not gonna throw you're not gonna throw flag for the receiver turning running. Yeah. The thing with that was my terminal tried to play it off as a pass interference call and kind of like right early. So. Yeah. And but that led to the interception. If he was just staying there as well fighting for that ball. It would have been picked off as easily. He he scattered off to the opposite to the to the right side where the ball's name going, and the is going I don't even know he knew where that ball's gonna land. I know that he looked maybe he should've looked. I don't know. Well, he I know that he saw the ball flailing the air, but is one of those things where he caught a glimpse of it. And then he turned to run and he ran to the guy. So he's a little bit disoriented. I get it. But he kept playing for the ball in his hand in guys hands. Yeah. The basically the Ran's I mean, they win this game. I don't think they're fans give two two craps about how they got there to be honest with you. Anything fan of the team will won't care. They're not going to you know, fill sorry about winning a football game. And oh, no, absolutely. Not. They they were refreshingly honest. I mean, the Kilroy be Coleman the db and question on this pastor said I made it I hit them. I hit him. He said, I mailed them. He said he hit him. And that they thought they're gonna throw the flag and they'd never came. And he was like cool. Well, why would you rich that though, that's such a risky thing to do? Like why? If he looked like we talked about this. If he looked at the ball that's a pick. He was out of position. And he knew he he didn't know where the ball was. He's figuring. Okay. This guy's running full speed. And he's gonna go by me because I'm I'm kind of flat footed, right? Well, I knew what he was thinking. But just imagine if you just a glimpse at the ball, he would've saw that. It was a little bit off. He could have picked that off Feeney's running the running that way. That's might be a pick six. Yeah. When I look at the box score this game, something that jumps out. At me is the saints. Ran the ball twenty one times through the ball forty one times and they were winning for ninety nine percent of this game. Like, they they the only time they were losing was the final the final play. That's the only time that they that they were behind. That's it. The Rams had the lead. No part of this game until they kicked the game winning kick. Which by the way, I'll tell you right now Greg's airline when he when I when they were going to kick. I'm like he's going to nail it. This dudes best kicker in the NFL. And he could he could hit that from seventy five that had plenty of space. I don't know if people know who Greg's our line is if they know football, you definitely know he's Greg the leg, you absolutely know that but that dude can kick with if there is a skills competition for kicker in the NFL in distance. He would win he'd be the firm that cake Yankee could easily win seventy yards. He nailed it. He just absolutely nailed. It hit Ryan this week spot. I will say though, his. Kick to tie the game that almost missed. That was scary close it curved in. It's a little bit as seriously kicked. I'm like he's gonna miss this. It looked like it was rented the goalpost perky. And then it barely misses funny for a tenth of a second ill looked. Hey, maybe this kick will go wide. But then was like, oh, that's fine. New wasn't that close of the end of the day? It just looked it. Jerked a little bit to the right in your eye. Oh. This game. Look All Saints throughout three quarters until the final. I just don't understand how they didn't do a better job running the football. That's two games in a row. Now, the Rams run defense that has been pretty bad this year stepped up. I know we talked about it last week. I mentioned like I think their run defense is actually really good. But they take a lot of plays off rush the penalty or a bad statistic. They ran the ball Camerin Ingram. Both ran the ball combined seventeen times they did six years. Neither of them had more than ten carries. That's a travesty Shawn Payne, and I'm sorry. But you need to give them the ball lot more than that chimera did have eleven catches. So he was the focal point. But yet Ingram was purchase. I understand like ninety six yards receptions is great. But he's he's a running Mekki God. Again, more carries in that manner. He's dangerous. He's arguing the best way to make in the NFL. I honestly I heard Sean McVay after the game say that. Todd Gurley is healthy. And that's obviously not true. I mean what you can't give the guy for dance. And because he dropped a Passover dune interception in the first. Well, he did get it touchdown. But I mean, that's like. Consolation prize? I just don't girly sit up game that he's not her McVeigh said he's not hurt. Twenty five carries. The dude is curly hurt. He was arguably the MVP for the first eight games of the season this year and one of the best players in the NFL. And you're telling me that the last three weeks or the last two weeks, he's been healthy. But he's just been the second best running back behind C, J Anderson. I don't believe you. Well, they have two weeks to heal. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. But basically this game just put dissertation urologists on the new call the pass interference. That's what's only gonna be remember remembered for that. But I do have to say I do have to ask you if the saints won this game. Do you see them winning the Super Bowl still is you had them winning the Super Bowl? Correct. I had the saints in the patriots in the Super Bowl, but I never picked to win. I don't think they would have won. Against the patriots. That would have been some game Brady and Brees get it would have. I think we're going to get a good game though, this I'll four teams that were playing yesterday. I don't they were all offenses in the league. Yeah. And probably the top two defense's of the four remaining. After the fact, I know the saints had more vaunted defense Bill, I don't know if they're better than the Rams defense is pretty close. Donald ensue, very is very dangerous combination on the line. Aaron Donald is you know, maybe the best defensive player in the league. And I'd say that's safe to say. And the Rams also have other good players. You know, brokers sue they even got Dante Fowler. Dante feller is the one player who hit breeze to cause a interception overtime. He's the one that applied the pressure. A former first round pick. He goes to Jacksonville kind of falls out of the rotation with them looks like he's a bust. The Rams trade a fourth or fifth round pick for him. And like we read at the deadline, and then he ends up making a huge play for them yesterday. I don't know if we'll see that again out of him. And you know, his thing is he hasn't been consistently NFL. He's been a bus to this point. But man, he picked a hill. Of a time to step up and make a play. I'll tell you that. But you probably can hear a lot. What was going on just because of the Superdome booing their lungs out at the officials when the overtime starting the referee was discussing the the rules. You couldn't hear him. Right. And he had a microphone. That's how loud they were booing. Yeah. I'm surprised. He got out of there. I mean. A lot of the end of the day, man. Saints fans could be pissed off at the refs. But I think they gotta be pissed off at their at Sean Payton, more than anything to be honest with you because I think that they totally blew this game more than the rested. Sean Shawn Payne to them can make no roam around. They had a thirteen point lead. I get that. They never they never were behind in the game. They didn't run the football. They had the ball with two minutes left inside the twenty yard line of the Rams in couldn't manage the caught correctly. They got the ball. I in overtime. I mean they had every opportunity to win this game. They played at home. The Rams were lost the first half. I mean the saints could have put the game away early. They didn't the Rams held strong defensively and forced to field goals early. Could have got out of hand it didn't. And you let a young Rams quarterback of the young head coach kind of outplay you out coach you at the end of the day. It was. Yes. And McVeigh is going to the Super Bowl and Trump Hanes non against that shows what you were talking about. Maybe this is why all the rest of the NFL's trying to get McVeigh's former assistance, you know. Well, he I know what you're saying. Maybe everybody this is why right. Well, we gotta get Sean McVeigh's friends. Maybe they're all just trying to get a piece of Sean McVeigh, Bill Belichick, though. Like, we is he going to be like Bill Belichick's assistance where they can't get anything done without him or we'll see. But we they we have three we're gonna see about what what are two different teams with this opportunity. I looked exact tapers the new coach of the Bengals and not official yet. But probably going to be by the end of the season. And then we'll floors the new coach of the Packers. Yeah. So we'll see. I'm really surprised at practice. Didn't go with a veteran. But you know, what do you do? But any final thought to the NFC championship game. My thoughts are taught girlies obviously injured Sean McVeigh's going to be devastating the NFL for the next twenty five to thirty years. I'm not sure if jersey to slowly turn into Bilgi put on a hoodie and just become old and corroded. Maybe I'm not sure if Jared Goff is there yet. I still don't know who wasn't really Goff win for me. It was more of a team when it was very team win. And then for the saints. You know, I think I think for the saints. The thing about Sean Payton, and drew Brees is they've been good for so long. But maybe neither gets the amount of respect that they are that they think they should get were that most people think they should get. But at the end of the day they've won one Super Bowl in. It's hard to say that they deserve more of the limelight because I mean breeze miss opportunities in that game too. It's not just Sean Payton breezes past to Michael Thomas was pretty terrible on that first down play. And he threw the ball in the dirt. Pat, multiple questionable passes. Honestly. And my final thoughts on this is just the Rams were just meant to win this game. You know, some teams like it just seems some tea some the game's going one teams favor and at the end of the day went to the Rams more than they did the saints and the Rams are the ones going to the Super Bowl for the first time since two thousand one ironically, they played this patriots last time at Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk and Isaac Bruce Torry Holt at the top of their game. So we're about a little rematch of from eighteen years ago, which is fun. It's a little funny that this is like, I don't know if anybody's talked about this. But it's kind of like the Brandin cooks revenge door he played for the saints. He beats the saints. He played for the patriots. Now his chance I've forgotten pay for the patriots. Yes. So it could be like oh that was like what for a Cup house. We would it be. If the Rams win the Super Bowl and Brandin cooks as a game where he gets MVP, and he beats both of those TV gets. You gotta game yesterday had over one hundred years. But that is the gun for the first segment the NFC championship game. Next seven. We'll be talking about the AFC championship game between the New England Patriots. And the Kansas City. Chiefs will get run on that when we return. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast? Then check out the GMC football podcast. Get the latest football move both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered. That's GSM. See podcasts dot com slash football. Dash podcasts. Get updates. I'm college rivalries, key, insights and much much more. It's football talk. The way you want. It this show sleeps and bring split ball. Don't forget to alaikum on Facebook and follow them on Twitter. Visit. Yes, MC podcasts dot com. For more info. Welcome back. Everyone of the GSM see sports podcast. We just finished what the NFC title game. Now. Let's move onto the AFC title game. It's and the Kansas City Chiefs. It looked like it was the chiefs day for a very small bit. There was an interception at the end began that looked like it was all in chiefs grasp. And then there was an offsite. It's call that put it into that what? And he was offsides with what five yards? Dog wasn't close. Yeah. And that's very disappointing because that didn't lead to the tying or I guess the three point lead. Or was it doesn't matter if he's off site or not everyone who hates the patriots will just say that it was rigged. Yep. Have you have you seen the Instagram? Poster ready of it's the Rams Super Bowl. And it's just the referees in Rams and patriots. He's no. But I saw the picture of Todd Gurley and the referee swapping jerseys. Yeah. I like that one too. I thought that was I thought it was good. There was. Yeah. I thought those were very entertaining. But the fact is this game ended in overtime first time in history that two title games went to overtime the same day. And this is only the second time the AFC championship game went to overtime the first one being after the drive between the Broncos in Cleveland Browns in nineteen eighty six which the Broncos then won that game. And now we're moving on to what happened in this game and final overtime and this one thirty seven thirty one patriots win. They're going to third consecutive Super Bowl. I posted this Instagram. I said sky is blue grass is green and the patriots go to the Super Bowl tried till you tried telling you man as soon as I joined the bandwagon of the chiefs. They lose it wasn't the chiefs. It wasn't the chiefs might be me. I might pay a curse. It's just the patriots thought the cheese. It's the patriots. It wasn't you tune in the bandwagon. It was you bidding against Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and a big game. I know they've lost before. But they don't lose very often. I know I know I get that. And it's not the against them. I just like variety in not consistency in my NFL days. So I'm not hide his I would one of us was bound to go after the first game. One of us is bound to go for two hundred picks. And I was like we both know I did because we both picked the saints. And then you pick the cheese I picked the patriots. But during after the Rams went I was I was thinking I was like what one of us is definitely oh two. Because only one of these teams could win. We both got the first game wrong. But yeah, what can you say? It's Tom Brady. Hold on before we go. The AFC championship game. Real quick. I chose the saints had to go through the Minneapolis miracle last year. And now they have to go through this. It's pretty rough two year span in the playoffs. You know? It's funny. Yes, the same. I just forgot about that. What's funny, though, you mentioned the word miracle. Had the Miami miracle happened. The patriots would have hosted yesterday. You know that? If Miami doesn't win the epic game on the last play with gronkowski the Miami way a wing trying to call it the other miracle with grunk flailing trying to stop Kenyan Drake, they would've actually hosted the AFC championship game. So what do we see less that? We saw the patriots go into aero- head take a lead early lose it fourteen. Yes. It was she scored thirty one points in the second half in a lost. Which is crazy to me. But again, it's who they played. Yeah. It's Brady it's Bella chick in it took the chiefs a whole half to figure out that patriots defense. And ultimately, that's too long. Yeah. It's one of those things where everyone there was a lot of people saying the pages when you may get close to the super patriots flustered Mahomes. He couldn't he didn't have any time to throw in the first half half the opened it up. He played a lot better. But that first half. What do you have like thirty yards passing at halftime? It was like, wow, it was it was something very miniscule compared to his stats tyreek hill at like one catch for a good for big gain in those really it in the first half and that first touchdown and Kelsey really turned the tide. It was like, okay. We've got a ballgame. Maybe in the homes and his new-look passes. I think everybody something you should be doing. No you shouldn't every game. You really really is. There a reason that signature now is it just like he's going to try to that every single game. I don't really understand. Why you do it on a slant either way because like a science quick hitter? It's not like you really need a look anyone off. Yeah. That's a good point. It was a slant. Route like I understand the first time he did it because it was like it was a scramble, and he was just looking to make a play, and he found someone and tried to make no Lok like he tried to take into the opportunity this one it seemed like it was planned out. This one seemed like they were they try this. No look pass again. Yes. So let's see patriots. They give up twenty four points in the fourth quarter. That was the most points ever and a quarter in the playoffs. Thirty eight that fourth quarter yesterday, thirty eight total points. It's funny because the over under this game with fifty seven it looked like it was going way under halftime. Zero. And it took who would've thought it would end it thirty seven thirty one took an epic fourth quarter to hit the over. Unbelievable ends up being sixty eight total points, which is a lot. So what do you what do you think? What is your takeaway from this game? If you're the chiefs. Devastated, obviously. But there's still time to get back. But you know, they kept saying before the game. Like a lot of the pre game coverage was oh that she's finally broke the curse they wanna play off game at home. And I'm like, oh my God. You jinxed it that's what I was talking about that. Like, what are you doing are the biggest jinx in the history of sports? Like, you know, when they say like he's never thrown interception this season in it's like week. Fifteen finally throws one. It's like oh. Well, sorry. The chiefs like don't talk about don't bring it up. So I've heard this before somebody wants told me that the NFL and it comes down to it. It doesn't matter if you're. Run team pass team defensive team. But somebody wants told me that the NFL just one big game of third down conversions like, whoever converts the more. The third downs is probably going to win. And that's pretty good indicator. I see what you're seeing. So you sing that. Okay. At the box score. If you look at it. It'll be third third diversion's. Always I don't know who did actually crucial third down the PD patriots were thirteen of nineteen and the chiefs for four of nine. So the she's weren't terrible. But the patriots were just really in that overtime drive. They had what four third down conversions completed three that I know of and they were all third along. There are thirty ten thirty nine hundred seven. Yeah. And you couldn't you couldn't stop them and grunk got two of those. The patriots at five hundred yards of total offense Chiesa to ninety. That is pretty interesting. I I we all said that the that the biggest flaw in the cheese was their defense. And to be honest. That's what killed them this game. Is they're poor defensive play. When it came to third down. They couldn't get they able to run the ball. Really? Well. So only Michelle had another amazing game birkhead to James white. Even had a good game. The running backs for New England all played pretty well. I mean white had six carries for twenty three yards birkhead at twelve forty one. Michelle twenty nine of one thirteen four touchdowns running the ball. That's pretty good. Yeah. There's there was a lot of good things. But again, it's one of those things in its who's better coached. And it's safe to say that Bill Bill bell. Check is better than Andy Reid. I feel bad for eighty read many times he's been to the it was Andy Reid yesterday. And I was actually I'm admitting that it wasn't. Because usually I would say it is because of his question, we'll call this turns it in these kind of games, but he made the right call his team. Just couldn't get the job that patriots or just better like. I know that we've talked about this. I know that you that you were saying that you thought the chargers were better than the patriots. I've heard people say that cheese. I don't like why why do people think the patriots aren't as good as teams is it because they don't they're not as flashy like that's what I think to be. It's agree with that. No. It's not. It's just no one everyone saw that they had flaws this. Everybody wants them to lose. I get it. And everyone wants them to lose in everyone won't admit it. And I was on that same. I understood what everyone was coming from. And the fact remains that the patriots are still the best in the NFL. It's when Brady's gone in Belgium, gone that I will see that this dynasty. I believe will end. But before that, I believe that will be after next game. You think last game is their final time together. Yes. Absolutely win or lose win or lose. I say wind. I say, yes, I say lose icy. They stay another year win. It's easier lose it's harder. But I still think that will be I'm gonna say win. Stay win. Leave leave loose leaf. I only say because I only say this. Because even though the patriots are still maybe the best team in the NFL that ship is definitely sinking ship is not next year. They're not going to be as good. They're just not Tom Tom Brady. Tom Brady is still very good. But and he can still win any game. Make any one game that there is. But another season. I don't know. I don't see him risking him playing one year too long. If you know what I mean, like, I don't see him putting himself out there to be like I wanna play one where you're oh. I definitely shouldn't have come back this year. I don't think he'll be like that. I think he'll. Retire. And if he retires Bill retiring, I don't I think they're they're tandem. We'll see. Yeah. Yeah. This is but I feel like if they do return next season, which I think they might I think it's still a good chances is going to happen. They will be back. Not maybe not in the Super Bowl. But again AFC towel. I that's just how I see things by. Now, I'm going to say, I refuse to believe they are bad with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. I know that's an obvious statement. But it's one of those things where I'm saying like once they're gone. The dynasty will end not before. I'm pretty. I am pretty certain that. No. I know for sure I'm not pretty certain their whole. We're the underdog thing was I rolling to me. Like, yeah. He both taught about that. How I rolling, but I do agree with kind of the sentiment in that. Is that people don't think the pats are still great? They're still great like they're still great. And if there's one thing that the last two games have proven. It's that they might not be the best offense in the NFL. They might not have Randy moss. They might not be thrown for four hundred years of game Brady might not be sitting any single season records. But man when they can game plan for one team in one week to win one game. Who is better than those two. Nobody nobody I can is Tom Brady the greatest athlete of our generation. Okay. Athletes a strong word quarterback. Athletics player. Athlete has had more greatness in him in this generation. Lebron James, well, what do you what is your definition of an act? I know what you're thinking is an athlete doesn't necessarily mean who runs and jumps the fence asking you because. No, I'm talking about athlete like I'm talking about you need success. Like, I'm not talking about most successful professional play Bron, James ain't the best athlete. He ain't the guy that runs a fastest. And then bays something out of the jumps ties in the NBA. But he is the best NBA player. Like, you know. Yeah. I know what you're saying. I know you're thinking athlete, I'm not just saying who can win who can do a decathlon. Because Tom Brady certainly run in a runner jumping on this. We we saw that in the Super Bowl last year when they try to throw him a fast. We that was like there you go. That's your God about that his like five three forty and his two inch vertical doing it for five threes, kind of generous. But what I sell they weren't doing it for when I saw that. But he's got that clutch. Gene. He's got that magic that. So any execute like it's all focused with him. Right. Like, it's laser focus. What happened on that last drive yesterday? Did he make an amazing through? No he made crucial plays third and nine I down third and ten dollars. How to get the job third and seven I down like, hey, let's check into the right play. Let's audible at the line of scrimmage. Let's make sure but he's lined up. Right. It's just like clockwork with this guy. His laser focus. It's we got to recognize it, and I know people have, but but I'm just saying like it's subtleties about the game area to a Brazilian, supermodel. One of the gorgeous women in the world helps. He probably married him because she recognized early. How close he was. Like, I do too. So coach, I bet you on their first date like the marriage Bill. No the Bill came and he had the exact change. Like, that's how could she is. Like, here's at the restaurant. It's like one hundred twenty three dollars in sixty seven. So he's like, well, you think the only show? Happen to have one hundred twenty three dollars in cash on me. Oh, and would you look at that sixty seven cents in my pocket? Like that's Tom Brady. First of all it's laughable that you'd think it'd be one hundred and twenty thousand dollars for date of the I don't know when they got married how how far into his career. Did they get married because was he rich Tom Brady it or was he on research because we've got to remember Jeff the dude was a fifth round or six hundred and he got no getting paid until he got his his first contract extension. He wasn't getting paid until the endorsement started rolling in. Let's see here. Oh, by way, his forty five point two eight. Thank you. What was almost? I almost five three very close actually fi not five to eighty more those probably five six five seven. There was I didn't know he did her. Oh, he I can't pronounce her name, Bridget Mahoney. Oh, yeah. They were married. I believe. Partner. I think they had a cheeses crime any. Yeah. Yeah. Bridget moynahan. I had no idea. He did that with her too. But they got married in two thousand nine so he was already making millions by that point. Yes. So obviously, I'm assuming they're dinner was Moore's Zil in two thousand nine. Yeah. He was with Bridget in two thousand and four to two thousand. He wouldn't rule. No one. Yeah. In three years, he dated of a very popular in gorgeous actress and then a Brazilian supermodel Caygill, it's better than that can ice. We all doubted him, and he's going to his ninth Super Bowl record ninth. And I believe he was the backup quarterback for drew Hinson. Yes. He was the backup at Michigan. He wasn't even the starter. Or drew Hinson who was a cowboy star hot minute, and you can easily say who who's drew heads in drew Hinson is the first athlete that. I remember being a top baseball and football prospect at a high school. You're right about bridge and having his child. Yeah. They had a kid and then I'll be inches ill. I don't say. I'll place he still sees that kid but anyway. Well, you never know rebel. I don't know. We don't have to go there. Yeah. Of course, not we should probably take a break though. Yes. Talk a little we will NB. Tom Brady's life later. Anyway, we'll talking about what what is the future for the saints in that. She's so losers of the chamber of games and what their outcome might be. We'll be right back. Grab for this. Check out the show that's built on the from the UFC two extreme cage vitamin, but they got the fights covered checkout. GSM see 'em podcast. Get the latest news on past or coming fights. Join us as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in 'em past president Beecher when it's the fight game. There's just one show to check out GSM podcasts dot com. Backslash M. E dash podcast. Don't forget to like Facebook could follow them on Twitter. Visit GSM see podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the GMC sports podcast. We finished the NFC games. Now onto the participant. Trophy winners of those championship games the saints and the chiefs let's throw at the saints. Let's do it. Do you see them? Let's just go straight to the point. Let do you see them returning to the NFC championship and maybe even a Super Bowl appearance next? No, absolutely. Not absolutely not. You're a hundred percents on this. I just don't see happening. I'm not saying they can't they're incredibly talented. They still have one of the best quarterbacks of this generation. They have one of the best coaches in the NFL. But I'll tell you why Jeff it's not about talent. It's about mentality. That's now two years in a row that the saints were Super Bowl contenders. Where they lost in a really brutal way the brutal loss against Minnesota last year. And then yesterday's brutal loss at home. Yes. As it was even worse. But still they lose on the those two games. It's really hard to do at third time's kind of like the Super Bowl hangover, and I just feel like. Also, another thing that we have taken into account. Here's a lot of luck involved in this game. Every team in the NFL is actually good as much as we make fun of oughta these teams every team in the NFL is one or two players away from being good. They'll have five or six studs. For the saints that divisions usually pretty tough. I just don't see them being able to recover from the mental affects of the last two seasons. What about you? I agree. I hate them for a while a home in the NFC championship game a year that drew Brees broke passing records year that they stayed pretty healthy. Like, the saints are really healthy Kamerhe was healthy. Michael Thomas was healthy. They were not one of them more injury riddled teams. Whereas some other teams could say that they were. Yeah. And this isn't like I just said recently last year they lost in the Minneapolis miracle. And now they lost this controversial game against the Rams. This has bad luck written about them last couple years, and you can only go so far for so long. I guess you say speaking say that for the patriots, maybe not them. But breezes is on his last legs like Brady is and as well as like. Maybe pain his too. Let's say risk taking for his own for his own good, especially in some unnecessary gains. We need where you don't need to be that way. And that might cause them some games more than that wendems- from games longer next season. And also, you gotta look at the fact that there's probably going to be players that we gone that are crucial their team in free agency. I who knows who's Vaillant agency. I'm not entirely sure. But I have a feeling that this team will not be the same going next season. I agree with Mark on that. And is just like it's like the Vikings from last season. You know, they were in the NFC championship game. They got cousins everyone's like this is the Super Bowl team now. And look at it make the playoffs. So it's yeah. It's the NFL man like. It's way too hard to just be like. Oh, yeah. This team's gonna I sure be back like. The saints. You could argue should have had more success in the last ten years, and they haven't so like history shows that maybe the saints actually won't be back next year. Yup. Yup. Yeah. And then drew Brees is going to be your older. We talked about how healthy they were. You know, that marking rooms of regent. That is big that's a big law. So what do they do their? They probably let him go because I think some team will pay more than the saints will. But then at that point the saints need to find another running back to because Camaro you don't want him to just get hit thirty times a game. I don't wanna overuse him. It will be over for begins. So they're gonna have questions answer there. Ben Watson's retiring they're tied in. I know he's not a big box score guy. But he's still a main cog in their team. Yeah. It's just gonna be difficult for them. And it's a Super Bowl hangover. But it's a NFC champ chef game hangover. Well, it's d- playoff round Hanover lost. They lost the Vikings last year. Another terrible way to lose Email. Yeah. The miracle game. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So what about the cheese? Careful careful. Okay. I think you wanna go first. It sounds like no go ahead. I know you're thinking, right. They got a really young quarterback seems to be good for a long time. Right. I never said they're gonna be good for a long time. I said they have a good chance to repeat in get back to where they are. Now have a good chance. But I'm not gonna say this is going to be paging careful, though, by careful because I remember a quarterback that was very young who went to the Super Bowl in his second season who everybody said don't worry about this loss. He'll be back many times over and over again who was at quarterback Tina home talking about he made it to the Super Bowl his second NFL season. What year was everybody knew that he was a young awesome quarterback. And they're like do this guy is gonna win. He's going to be playing so many of these games, and he never made it back. Now, I know Mahomes that make the Super Bowl, but it was similar situation. What how long it's been a while. I think of a famous quarterback who's only played in one Super Bowl who never won his one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. He's never won a Super Bowl. And that's the reason why this year's. Has he played in the last twenty years don't think so maybe okay? So this is a long time ago. Oh, Dan Marino. Yes. Dan, Marino's second. I didn't know if you were talking to the Super Bowl losses SuperBowl. And everybody said it doesn't matter this kid young. It'll be back. Always see not catching homes is awesome. He every credit, and I think he's gonna win MVP. But. Dan Marino like. No, no, not at all. I just don't you can't just say the chiefs are going to be in the Super Bowl three or four times the next tenure or something like that predict that either it's very unlikely in Andy Reid for his strengths and weaknesses. Doesn't have the best track record of winning big games out. And true. No. I mean, you'll you'd be the first one to say I am. More than anything. I feel like I defend I don't feel bad. I finally give him his credit and give him a chance to win. I pick them to win. And they all tell you right now, the loss they suffered yesterday was a very. I feel like Andy Reid is loss. Some of those games where it's not his fault. But they just lose to team. That's better. Like, they just lose to the right place at the wrong time. The patriots are better than the chiefs. Can we admit that? Yes. But they are they have a better defense. They're just a little bit bitter coached. They have the freaking king of quarterbacks. Like come on like, they they have a mount Rushmore like if there's an NFL mount Rushmore, and it was quarterback and head coach they'd probably have two of the four people on the mount Rushmore they'd have Brady and Bilgic. They probably they probably both be up there. You know, regardless. That's accurate. I think the have a better chance getting back to the saints one hundred percent and a lot of it has to do with the division for me. The AFC west is kind of a joke right now until the Broncos. I know the chargers were good. Don't get me wrong. It's two teams. But the Broncos are they're on a sinking ship. The raiders look like there wa- Sissy. You know, what I did there raiders lost? No, sell that one. Shameless shameless Silveira. But yeah, man, like, I know don't you think the NFC overall better? Yeah. I feel like well when Brady makes it every year, it kinda shows the fact that there's a lot more competition in the NFL. Another fact that I find it very weird what which which division in the NFC has had more teams go to the Super Bowl since realignment. Which division in the NFC had the most Super Bowl partic- west. And if she west isn't that weird and their consider the worst, isn't that odd? We've had the forty Niners in it. We've had the Seahawks and now we've had the ram in the colonel's made it no one's was it once. Title game twice. But the Seahawks have made the Super Bowl three times. Yes. Niners have made it. Size to pill words, Seahawks loss to Pittsburgh hasn't five loss to the Broncos and beyond the Broncos beat the patriots lost the patriots. Sorry. Beat the Broncos loss to the patriots. The Niners went since the realignment won only once in forty seven once Rams of now done it three three times. Carnivals Rams twice. Third time second time second time. Oh, one or Wayman nineteen ninety nine was the relay with nineteen ninety nine. It was about that time. But pro maybe not God, I need to check. Now. Like it's about the year two thousand right like. That's a good question. I'll look that up as the moment. Into so no it didn't count. So I did he mccown because they made a no one. So once but the Seahawks three times the Niners once each team from the NFC has made to the Super Bowl since the ring alignment. And they've won a combined one time. Yes. So yes, I think cheese make it back. Anyways, we go to break. Come back with talk UFC, you'll see event the first event. Plus, we'll talk about that. And actually, there's an NFL player on on that Homer info talk about. We'll talk about injury news in the NBA. Yes, right back grab this. Hold on tight. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's employee of the month two months in a row. Leave a message at the. Hi, jamie. It's me, Jamie. I just had a new idea for our song about the name your price tool. 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I liked the fact that you can put the name is going to be on there. Now, the champion's name and all that good stuff. Like it looks. So generic like just they just replicated replica of a belt. Now, it seems more custom-made for the for the fighter. Which I enjoy. Yeah. No. I think it's cool. I have no problems with it. But I mean, the main event Henry Suharto defeats T J dillashaw dillashaw was going down to flyweight to try and fight the fight weight. Champion Henry pseudo. This fight was over in thirty two seconds referee. Stop Safai after a flurry of punches from Henry Suto. I personally think that the fight was stopped too early. But I understand why it was stopped because dillashaw got rock four times in the first thirty seconds. Like, he really did get pummeled. But I thought he was still fighting. What was your thoughts? A controversial ending. Yeah. But I think he was still fighting. He was dazed for sure I think it was one of those things where he was just like it was one of the long lines of he so out of it that he's fighting invisible. Man type of thing. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I feel like he was defending. I don't know. Controversial. Because anytime you stop the fight that early you really kind of allow yourself thirty seconds. Yeah. That's pretty you'll allow yourself to be as a referee. Like, you got to be really sure in my opinion. It wasn't like the guy's been taking punishment all night like if he's been taking punishment, and he's just been getting clobbered, then it's like, okay, maybe I need to step in. But. Henry pseudo man, very very impressive win for him. He said he'll give dillashaw rematch by he'll do his weight class. So he can have the chance to win two belts like dillashaw trying girl I like it. So that one fight on this card. That's I'm not being girl. Musing the park reference. One fight that it's going to be the most scrutinized fight on this card was Greg hardy, the former NFL player, we know. Has had problems with domestic violence in the past. Controversial figure people were not agreeing with the fact that he was on this car. Not only does he have a controversial past. But he was controversial being on as a co main event on this card because of his short experience in the UFC. He was disqualified around to for an illegal need of the head. You cannot put back their head in neom. It was pretty obvious. Oh, yeah. Nobody can argue it. It's the street. It was street fighting. It wasn't one of those things where the guy is purposely falling to the as soon as the knees coming like I've seen that happen. I do not like that. You can't put your when the guys on the ground can't neom in the head. You can't put your hand on the was he was on his he was on the ground for a little long period of time wasn't like he was going down as he was. It was he was it was a blatant needed of head while he was down. It's like he one of the fight to end. So he just said screw myself. Yeah. So hardy, I don't think we'll be seeing him on a main card anytime soon. Hopefully until he kinda gets his skills up because he was already looking like he was a little bit gassed in round two Joseph benefit is he's been a popular name. He wins his. But the women flyweight that's a big story page van Zandt gets a huge win of Rachel a very good fight. It was a nice blend of styles here. Mission for a lot of people submission from her great jujitsu. Rachel taps out. That almost sounded are cast. Great. How you said it's Louis. Great win from a. Defensive appearing to be defensive positions. We know what of jitsu. You can look like you're in a vulnerable position. But actually be the aggressor and she showed everybody her class. Paid vans at winds of ritual. Ostrich anyways might take was it was a pretty decent event for the first one the SP. 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Week's Best (CFB playoffs, Lakers/Clippers, Cam Newton's future, NFC East, Patriots' Super Bowl chances)

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Week's Best (CFB playoffs, Lakers/Clippers, Cam Newton's future, NFC East, Patriots' Super Bowl chances)

"Welcome to the weekend edition of the undisputed podcast on your host Johnny Taft. Today's podcast features teachers all the best segments from this week sleep of undisputed with end up interviews and discussions. We have a lot to talk about heading into next week skip Shannon. Let's get due to a playoff. Selection Committee will release their latest rankings. two-day after Alabama's lost to Auburn Utah and Oklahoma are expected to move off. They both posted convincing win. Saturday and each we'll have another opportunity to impress in their conference championship games. And assuming all the favorites win will get Lsu you know state Clemson and then either we've got a one loss Utah or a one loss. Oklahoma as the fourth seed Reggie in your opinion then who is most deserving of that spot. I think Oklahoma is going to have a stronger case because the pack twelve is down right now. A down year I thought Oregon had the best chance of between Utah and Oregon to win the PAC twelve and then go on into play in the playoffs. But I think the loss to Oregon obviously is going to hurt them also also GONNA hurt Utah. We're assuming that Utah Beats Them in the PAC twelve championship game but Utah as of now has no wins over ranked opponents Oklahoma's gone in Texas as they beat Texas They beat I believe I will. State was ranked most recently Baylor As well Oklahoma state and Oklahoma state as well and so then they have to play Baylor again and we're we're assuming assuming that Oklahoma beats them. That's not going to be easy game. It will two-time second time around. But I think Oklahoma is going to have a stronger case then either either teams but the one thing that we can talk about on our on our show. That's interesting is for Oregon playing Auburn Week. One right. Did that hurt them right did did the. Ad Put them in a bad spot by scheduling Auburn at Auburn at Auburn. First game but season. Yeah right and and and I don't know if we look at Alabama their plant FCS opponents I two games beating teams by fifty sixty sixty points you know so I just WanNa go back to Oregon. Did they miss out because they scheduled. SEC team first game of the season what you give a bite number more. You can chew. He'll mess with FCC. We represent down this. I go mess with even if it was a freshman quarterback. Well what yeah. It was really again for me. I'M GONNA SAY UTAH. Bid Blog. Rude you ready. They both have bear bear some resumes but when you look at Utah they want eighth grade gang rebound average twenty nine points only one game. Amy has been within one score. That's Washington they did lose to USC. But Reggie was intended. What did you expect arrives up? So they played out of their mind. That game we'll look at Oklahoma flags along okay. Oklahoma three hit straight wins by four points. I will estate. Should've kicked the PAT and took him to take the game into overtime. Bela had them. They got off the hook. Baylor let them off the hook. They pour their best Atlanta Falcons and we know what happened with. I bet you can't move to Kansas state. You get new. The Kansas Day by the College Football playoff. Look I just now that we look back at it Texas. That were not impressive. Yeah that was impressive. Skill took a turn. I haven't spoken. Yeah Yeah I know what. I'm saying. The U homer already know boomer. So you're GonNa be Oh our C.. Jalen hurts and he go. So you're putting words in my Utah would observe this. But I'm hoping for the unexpected I won't joy. Lsu who everyday the status quo will be at an Alabama. What have you know what? Palpable is Alabama invitation if people tied yearly so we took a year off. We'll be back next year so paint Nick Sabin that way you forty eight or else. Wow let's get back into peak six but there were over one. Give them credit the new. You're so Shannon Sharpe obviously just picked Utah Fourteen because he hates Oklahoma. Because I love Oklahoma. 'cause I can't help loving Oklahoma 'cause I got born and raised in the tradition in my blood Shannon. It is happening again a third straight year right before your very eyes one loss Oklahoma. The home is going to the four spot in the college football playoffs. Don't hobby I to tell you you know. They don't deserve it. They just don't they're they're going to go. Because it's GonNa come to this Jalen hurts and Lincoln Riley or Kyle Wittingham and tyler hunting. Nobody even knows who Kyle Wittingham Tyler Hall. Nobody nobody can name anybody for Utah. But everybody knows Lincoln Riley might be the next Dallas Cowboy coach and listen. Jalen hurts as had a fun nominal year and I still have to wonder what if he had been the Alabama quarterback this year. Maybe you would've stayed healthier because you talk about. I'm knocking on wood for him. But he is a durable the big young man what tool we would not have that national championship that we played Georgia well. Yeah for wasn't for Jalen hurts last year you would not have made made the college football you would not have saved you in the fourth quarter as we had no losses so we still go maybe you will wallow we were going okay so here. We go again because Baker Mayfield lost at home to Iowa state in his year that you went to the college football plus I was state was a thirty one point. Underdog your dog at Norman Oklahoma and pull that off thirty seven to thirty one. I still don't know out eappen. And they managed to overcome that and go to the playoffs. They called Jordan will took two overtimes to catch an l not bad when you have one of the worst defenses in the nation and then last year they lost a shootout to Texas but they came back doc in the big twelve championship game with Kyle and they avenged the loss and they went over the Hollywood Brown. Who is lighten up pro football right now? It would have in a very different story. Nj Big Big Big Hollywood Miami Desk Matt. Okay so I keep hearing. The Oklahoma defence is much improved over a year ago. Scream that it is much improved because they finished last year. One hundred fourteenth in the country in yards allowed their twenty-six this year. Your last year they finished one hundred and I in the country in points allowed their fifty second. That's like connor respect. But guess what happened. They went up to Kansas State. Manhattan little apple the Big Apple actually and a shock to me. They gave up forty eight points to eighteen minutes scored thirteen against Oklahoma State and twelve against Baylor Kansas state. Yes forty eight points and you lose forty eight to forty. What how do you do that? And then they come right back and I was state and they somehow survived forty two to forty one because I was state did go for the throat and go for the win and the quarterback through the wrong receiver cause the big tight end was just like all alone at the goal line and he just missed. Pass it up anyway. It was close. But I think you're not going to throw that flag on that play not at Norman Oklahoma. He's he's only got away with that one then. They fell behind halftime to Baylor thirty one tin and I witnessed in the second half the most improbable comeback. I'm back in college football history to me if you had. I tested the first half. Yeah Oklahoma could not stop. Baylor was at Baylor. That's one Saturday. He's going to be a jury world but they could not stop them and in the second half. This is the great thing about football. You can actually play keep away pull it off. You can play a whole game of keep away in the second half. Guess what. My team held the ball for twenty four minutes. Baylor had it for six minutes. It was fifty seven plays for Oklahoma in the second half to sixteen sixteen plays for Baylor to turn with exactly. That was the difference in the ball game but Jalen hurts just kept making third down after four down after third down. They just snap the him and listen. He is not Lamar Jackson because he doesn't have near that kind of burst but trust me he can run the rock patience and guts and Guile and strength in just he's got a knack getting yards and he can make you miss if he gets in your second and he can throw it to. He can throw it. He's going to play for somebody in Pro Biden. Used to think that but I'm one I would agree a hundred percent with do he. I think now even more. So looking at Lamar Jackson is doing is opening. A door is more and more guys like Jalen. His door is wide open so they come back and beat Baylor and now Vegas is saying. They're an eight and a half point favorite vert over a team that had them down thirty one ten at halftime. That seems like too many points. I don't go to show you better show way in that. Go bears the go-to yeah. Like Baylor are pretty remarkable. The one thing that Baylor does have is they got that defense and their defense playing lights out all season long for the most part but in that second half is where they gave it up to Oklahoma. If the defense can play better this time around they're gonNA have a good shot that when you want to talk about just willing team to win and Jalen hurts. Just said I'll take it back and I'll take you home. And he took them all the way home with it. Oklahoma state with their quarterback. Running back toward you guys doc Wallace. You know you got heading to the Kansas State. Give me a stomach. Ache is adult. I was just watching Oklahoma. Yeah two different routines okay. I want to make sure it wasn't just the cowboys sure. Every year. They seem to survive their one long. It only matters Thursday night happening. Let's see it hurts and Lincoln Riley or those Utah You who Wittingham successful over the last couple of years twelve after dark. It's just the in terms of the nation and WHO's watching it does go watch the bay and if it was different we I mean we tried to convince them if they wanted to kick off at nine. Am Hard it's hard. It's hard to get the eyeballs out here in Los Angeles you can watch my sooners at nine. AM on watching. I'll be working out. Yeah Watch the miracle watching. I think you're in trouble again. Oklahoma's going to survive to the playoffs and Dallas is going to survive cutback might be willing to put a case of do on that really no. That's that's a yellow. I need eight and a half points. Don't know you don't know a scam. Hold on. They were hit thirty one ten. So what does vegas biggest eight and a half. I need eight and a half eight and a half scale points. I'll take it head up right now. Straight up half the eight and a half so no I would do it for you thirty dollars. Yeah I got it straight up case right now though no have dicey about this well I hope you both catch Reggina in any this weekend. You're there reading. Thanks for being here so the city of Los Angeles is taken the NBA a by storm. It's been fun to watch. Lebron the Lakers won eleven of their last twelve games and sit atop the west with an eighteen and three record. Meanwhile meanwhile the clippers are right behind at sixteen and six and have lost only one game at home all season teams racked up wins last night about sports analysts. Chris are joining us now. I can't believe that we are a quarter of the way through the season. Alright it feels like it's flown by no and your opinion right now. Now who was better Lakers clippers. WHOA considering that the Bruce our power rankings are coming out today? C. Power rankings. These are the definitive. So you know I have the Lakers ranked the head. One spot ahead of the clippers now. I know skipping and others will probably say the clippers schedule has been tough and I'll admit no other team has a list of the victim's bodies whatever you WANNA call it like the clippers. They beat the Lakers. The jazz the raptors the rockets the Celtics the Mavericks. Here's the thing though. They've played more home games. Any team that you lead fourteen twenty two games they own. And the the all those victories over those good teams all of were at home except Dallas. Okay so they've had it fairly easy. I I've got admit I was glad to see the Lakers. Victory last night over that to me that was define again because they have been beaten up on the little sisters of the poor. All right they half aft- but last night they go into Denver obviously one of the toughest places to play in the league. AD completely shuts down the coal. Even sick yo it was right right and Yokich eighty percent. But I'm with the Lakers. Here's a few reasons. In addition one I I think Lebron James has reestablished himself if not the best player in the world. That's up for debate. He's the best player in that building. He's the best ask building now. He's reestablish that they are the best tandem Lebron and a deep because they're more versatile we saw with. Add to Yokich. Who you own the clippers as certainly not? Paul George can do that to Nicola Yokich to a big man so the fact that they have the interior defender under in a D to seven. Close to seven footer. I think that gives them that tandem and edge. Obviously they got depth. But here's the other thing too. The Lakers don't have to give him props for this. They are respecting the regular season. The clippers mainly Kawai is not. I'm I'm sorry and I have to give them points for respecting the regular season. I'm not one that's going to sit here. And talk about Lebron or castigate Libron Ron for playing hard in the regular season. This is we praise Michael Jordan for doing that especially somebody I know they call it. Oh Nice now go ahead. Brown is restricted the regular season ad playthrough shoulder elbow ribs last night is symptoms. They I'm you know somebody else with a sat out down the hall down and so. I'm giving the Lakers the age. They're the best team right. Now go ahead. You go here go here. Do you realize that once again last night at Denver Lebron James played almost the entire fire. Fourth quarter it was all eleven nineteen so he took a few seconds off and it was by far the most minutes played of anybody on his team or any body in the entire basketball game. He's in his seventeenth year and this is a tortoise hair argument because the tortoise there's GonNa catch the hair because the tortoises Kawai because he's load managing for April May and June and Lebron is going all out trying to steal an MVP in his seventeenth year because he now leads the NBA in shot attempts in the fourth quarter. Why is that because a lot of nights he's just stat stuffing through through garbage time? He's playing twelve minutes in the fourth quarter against Atlanta seriously. He loves the game. He loves those numbers that he's putting up because he's taken taking up. Tom Brady is going in the fourth quarter. It's different who load manages and pro-football. Nobody does ask you because I think can't know how your brain works with Lebron. Do you think that he is going all out to win the MVP and if it cost him in the playoffs chiefs he has an excuse. I don't believe that I know you don't but do you think he's doing that. In in runs he has an excuse. Nitty older because because everybody said he was washed washed. So he's the Hashtag Wash King. Watch this the wash king and I'm watching and it's great. He's been sensational. If you WANNA take that crown right now you can have your the quarter pole. He is cruising for a bruising a literal bruising because he is I'm knocking on would fund because I don't like to wish this on anybody but he is asking for injury trouble down the stretch. Keep doing asking for because he lo- medicine and low medicine on the court. He's he's asking for freshness admit this collide. They better win it this year right because if he lo- manages like this and they they don't win the champ really hasn't load man. He loved managed all through his San Antonio but only get it but he managed through Toronto last year and they won the champion Jake right and so that's why people gave him a pass but if he manages this year and they don't win it I think people are going to be like look play. Eighty two or you know try to play as many games as UK tail like everybody else. Hey what this team you can have it at the quarter pole. I'll give you that and I told him earlier. Anthony Davis has made a case. He is the defensive player or the year so far. We've got a long way to go. Three quarters of an eighty two game season left to play but he has been to me both defensive player a year in MVP so far because this team is way better than I thought it would be. Yes I mean to me. He's just dominating what he did to Yokich last night was shocking shocking. Because Yokich against my spurs in the first round of the ploughs last year when seven games and we couldn't deal with and we're sending three guys adding they sent one guy at him and one guy sent him home like he was the little sister last night. When you gotta be right all the big mouth ate cereal I said this earlier? I'm GonNa say it again. If I just turned on that game watching the Denver Nuggets for the first time I would've said WHO's that guy he didn't belong in the League. No seriously he looked unathletic. Slow and completely in over his head he was throwing balls in the seventh roll like he was so overwhelmed. He was psychologically taken out of the game. Eighty by I Anthony Davis. Guess what that means Paul George. What's it going Paul George or have the garden? Yeah Paul George Guard as he those are they. They don't go. Put heroin viral start. You will start out sue by well. No but when he's who would do jail. We got skyscrapers. It you're talking about the guard. Yoke no no. No no no Lakers. Missing the point there is a behemoth in the basement at Staples Behemoth Hema. It is a seven headed monster in it can defend like the Lakers never thought about defending as a unit as a team. Because I love what doc said last night he said this is the boy Portland her home obviously at halftime. We didn't make any adjustments. We said something's going to have to give here. We either start start. Defending are going to have a long night and mantras said after the game. We just decided we're going to impose our will on them on the defensive end in the third quarter and create havoc and they did it was twenty seven to seventeen clippers over blazers in the third quarter and the game was over because they just took. Cj Dame out of everything they can do. They're just lost that right. There's too dark or too long. The parameters skip those a perimeter players and when the shots aren't falling. It's going to be difficult for Portland. They get when they can't get the shots. Would you got a D.. Dump it down. You know the Broncos play what is back to the basket you know the history shows Ron Paul George or do you think he can back down. Okay we'll go by sea. That's great defenders. No question but they don't defend at the Rim light like Lebron is had trouble historically with seven footers at the rim. Even Roy Hibbert to a degree in Indiana. They don't have that Zubov ain't bad plus three it was in Portland Yokich. BURKITT's get mixed goes after that is remember Golden State got bill McGee remember they inserted you build Mcginn right. You'd better be careful. He's my my guy he can leave. He took James Harden right out of the game chatter. Shot to win the game at at the end of regulation and went into overtime and he knocked it into the twentieth. Throw out great block. I'm just trying to figure out how to. How have you ever seen the best play on the planet not being the MVP conversation that the quarter pole? He's in the conversation easy conversation okay. But he's still you got KUWATA. No they're cool. Why has sacrificed regular season awards? He doesn't care he's not going to be first team all he's not go in even in the fought for an MVP and all the rest leashes declared honestly. If he's not playing he shouldn't be up. No no right. So He's given to signal the end of the year he'd better light it again. That's all I'm saying. They like nothing. Tricks dog was in early December. And you're celebrating like you just as you are all my law. My guy is doing is what I've seen him do for the previous Arabia. Six young you guys are positioning themselves to win the championship. Your guy is positioning himself. He hopes to win in the seven. We will take these season sweeps regarding the panthers fired head coach Ron Rivera yesterday yesterday. After Carolina got beat by Washington for their fourth loss in a row and seventh on the season. It's being reported that the next head coach for the panthers will play significant role in determining Cam Newton's future with the team moving forward. It's been speculated that the panthers could be moving on from Cam to free up nearly twenty million dollars and cap space next season and according to Fox. Jim Harbaugh is the betting favorite to be the panthers next coach followed by Jason Garrett and Josh mcdaniels how about with those three names should the new coaching staff. Keep Cam I believe. I also believe that the owner has it right. I'm GonNa let coach. I'm gonNA BRING HIM IN. I'm going to empower and we'll let him decide but I believe they should keep count because I believe he's their best option. Now I say that. Skip saying okay. You're going to bring somebody. That's that's going to be willing to work and put a system in place that use his unique skill set skip. Look we want to know of tournant because we saw what we know what. norv Turner can do wiccan visual quarterbacks bags norv turner basically their route tree is the bank which the one two three four five and throw skinny post. He had the deep comeback and he has the speed beat out. But that's not what camp. That's not what CAM is now. If you hire Greg Roma let's just say for the sake of argument skip it. I know he wasn't mentioned this. Greg Roman okay. You see the skillset. And what he's done with Lamar Jackson now Jim Harbaugh. He had a guy that was very similar to camp in Colin Kaepernick. Yeah so I think that goes a long own way but I don't I believe if they were to say no. We want to go in a different direction. We're going to clear the decks. We want someone else to be the face of Franchise Kale. We'll have suitors is being reported that he is going to have the third foot which are going to keep him out eight to twelve weeks which means by the time free agency if we roll around he should be fairly healthy team going. Their medical staff will take a look at their foot so I believe he'll have choices but I do believe he's the best options we see cal. Now they get three or four games game table and he should've looking good if he did in the first three games they just kill now. He's looking at okay. Now see what you went undrafted. I believe can would be the best option which is going to have to be a code. That's willing to put a system in place that's bill that will that will work with unique skill set. Um So I hear you and you could be right about this. But let's start with this new owner David tepper. Who just pull the plug on Ron Rivera with? What are we four huge ego? Potentially the next Jerry Jones quick point in in his career he once worked for Goldman Sachs seems to has the real financial genius about Z.. Is a billionaire. And I read last night that he came up with a way to help save Goldman Sachs during the crash of Nineteen eighty-seven and he thought he would be promoted to a partner after that but he feels feels like he was he was passed over because quote unquote. He was too loud and Profane. This is the owner of the Carolina Panthers. Well I'm not gonNA say got bill a government money. A lot of other women got billed government money all right so he doesn't need anybody. Bail him out good because his ego is big enough that he thinks he can recreate the panthers in his interest so he wants to start it from the top down right he wants to start it over. So I'm just GONNA guess. This is my educated guess from a distance or my two cents from a distance. He'll WANNA start over with the new coach in a new quarterback and both of those remind him of what the old regime Ron Rivera ankle. Probably to his point cast taken a lot of hits man in fact I saw stats last night. He has taken the most of any pro football player in the time. He's been in pro football. That's running back Jack. Anybody taking the most hits anybody on offense right. It's a lot of wear and tear. It is and he's invited a lot of those hits. He's dish as much as he's taking. But the point is he's had to shoulder surgeries and there was some doubt early this this year when he didn't seem to have enough gun left after to throw the deep ball. Rick what did you do the best when when he was running and throwing he or doing it man. So if you take that away from him now two surgeries surgeries on shoulders and one on his foot. Take away a little bit of quickness. Now I don't know what I like to see him as the bears quarterback next year Sherwood. I think that'd be a huge upgrade for the Chicago bears. You could make cases saying I'm not saying. La chargers obviously. Wherever Tom Brady doesn't go with in fact he gets pushed out the back door? So there will be plenty of suitors for Cam and the truth is hard hearts for me. I would like to see him get a fresh start somewhere. Are you could be right up. Just start over and with a new big chip on your shoulder because Cam can be pretty fierce when he's got a big chip on sometimes when you're when you're in a a location for an extended period of time people starting to take for granted and they don't realize how good you were and then all the sudden and they get into starting to get a little taste of it now because they've kind of bought fallen on hard times because Christian. McCaffrey is not losing his mind. So they like okay. We're GONNA sit down. See Mac and we'll see what your quarterback can do. Yeah we're not addict. CMEC can't go for a book fifty and one hundred twelve fever and cal and have to win these games. Now you see just how pedestrian he actually looks. So maybe you're right I think Carolina. It'd be a great place but like I said before I believe you have your souders Jerry Jones Jason Garrett will be a hot commodity on the open market I would leave would be able to give skip it. Goes back to. He's not everybody's Cup of tea and then you've got to be willing to put him in a system that fits his skillset skillset. Yep so I've always been a big Ron Rivera Fan. I think he's a rock solid. Football coach with a defensive mindset but then last night I start scan a and his records as the head coach of the Carolina Panthers and it's not that great. No they're six out of nine years. They had losing records when they hit they really. They went to the Super Bowl with fifteen in one in the postseason e seven and three which dot com. Okay but do I blame David Tepper for saying I want to start over. I don't that's fine with me. He said I knew I was going to be looking for new head coach. Let me go ahead and start to do it and again I liked his idea of. I don't don't WanNa be sneaking behind his back and trying to interview on the sly. And have ron find out about it before the season because he said I'm already hearing that. Some of the coaches who might be in play are already getting feelers from other teams that need a new coat right so he wanted to get ahead of that on a fine with all that also remind everybody I I loved will greer coming out of college. And he's the third string quarterback. He has not had a chance yet. Now but I thought will greer was the second best quarterback in that draft behind collar. Murray and I want to see and maybe they wanna see what he could do going forward with the new regime and a new coach. And I. I don't know maybe there I have no idea but I just know a West Virginia Jinya he could light it up and you saw some games always really impressed so I'm surprised he has Understand we're not whether it's going to be calendar will greer or you go into the going to go into the draft Yup. which is the likelihood of a rookie quarterback taking you somewhere? You understand. You'll have some lean time male. He had a quote yesterday about that. And said I'm not this. Don't don't look to me to be the savior if you think I'm going to save your introduce you to the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn right okay. So I got that. So he's trying to temper these accusations when you had to kind of success is that he has. That's easier said than Dylan because he can snap his fingers in whatever he wants. When you have that kind of wealth you can get? But it doesn't work like that in sports because it doesn't impose specially with football because you have a cap you can't just be the Yankees or the Red Sox I'm GonNa get the best. The best pitcher first baseman second basement. You can't do that in football so you say okay. Yeah I understand. You know it's GonNa take some time. Are you really. Are you sure you're the process. You have that kind of time. You have that kind of stomach for patients Jerry. Jones dominated the oil fields of Oklahoma and Texas and then he dominated the NFL for a while and then it's been since the nineteen ninety five seasons since he won a Super Bay. It's been forever since they read any playoff run. Let's give the figures people look at what the Patriots doing. Yeah gotTA BE AH. They can't be the only one. I mean everybody practice. No that's an anomaly. Like the Yankees winning all twelve years and when they won ninety games or they want what seven not a twin championships. Get those anomalies. Those don't happen. The only happened wasn't a lifetime so you think that somebody's going to be able to replicate at a destination destination. What New England's do it? No so get that thought seventeenth straight ten win your head. That is true but I wish cam well yes I wish him health. Okay everything else. Everything else will take care of itself. I want him to get totally healthy. That foot though shoulders and then go somewhere if it's not in Carolina that will embrace your skill set and put a system around you. Now say okay with this guy was great with Troy. Aikman this guy. He's a quarterback whisperer but if he goes to run the the system that's conducive to what camp can really do Wail Yup and hit a nice post about Ron Rivera. They had been together since twenty. Eleven coaches coaches ever had. I mean that's that's hard that's a that's a long relationship and they did. A Thanksgiving Day was talking about the players that came in that draft cam out by Miller. Mr Game Aim. Jj Watt. Mr Gain. Julio missed the game yeah all the top guys like wow twenty level but that was a heck of a draft remember. He's only thirty years old Bernie. Just keep that the mind if he's able to get well join a super bowl champ and sports college football analysts warn. Reggie AH morning so reggie who wins the NFC East is the tough about nobody. Nobody Eh this is a tough one because when I look at the cowboys most talented team on paper but you you cough up a game at home on Thanksgiving into the buffalo bills a game that they should've worn and then I liked what you said. Skip on Friday because I really also believe that philly would win out because they have the easiest remaining schedule but man defense look really bad especially secondary really look fad terrible and there were a a couple of plays Wassall in that game where guys are in position to make a play on the football. I mean literally staring Carson Wentz and got her gets behind behind him or another receiver gets behind him and catches a touchdown and so it just are the way. I don't feel good. Eagles Owen seven with Chillington fourth. Quarter and the cowboys. They have a winning team all season. But something tells me that the Dallas cowboys will still find a way to win out and and and get to the playoffs because they still have again they still got the most talented team on roster they can always turn around and hand it to Zeke. I should've but they did against Minnesota late guide long game. I I don't get it. Yeah during around the head Zeke. Who was guilty? Z Zero Z for one or handed tuned for Detroit basic question but one day has three straight incompletion. Do y'all stop throwing the ball. I can't remember him haven't I can't. QBR He had other big league in passing yards the head see their credited you'll get QBR to hang on anymore Hong Eastern yeah you got QBR. Well Thurs pretty good. Pretty good led the League most of the year the eagles the I'm just hanging onto the eagles because I believe the cowboys do cowbell and five can go all the way with his it. He'll be wrong cowboys cowboys thing. I mean can I get the like the offense the defense to show up at the same day because one day the officer as a show of giving the deepest like we all vacation which team you talking about the eagles because Eagles Eagles up one hundred points of Minnesota Soda. They lose at home to to Detroit. And I'm like Komo y'all better than this. And then that's what Michael Bennett yelled at the cowboys cowboys after the Buffalo Game. Better than this. I'd be I need somebody from the Eagles Locker Room to let yield that. Just say we're better than this like when's can winston played better. He just needs to be more consistent and hopefully alshon. It'll be back. I only know what you saw on the Hail Mary they put him. I knock it down so he can knock it in that way. You look at it and we were going to catch. It is awesome. USC Guy so just would've got the cowboys guilt. Look you over the bubble. You'll go you laugh. The cowboys have been just as inconsistent. The Eagle Eh. They just happened to have anything they got off to the better start. They started three. And that's all I think. The Eagles started up one and two and then they had to go to Green Bay win. Talk to Joe. Thanks to read far far far Aaron Rodgers but I just I'm just is going up still believe that they'll win out the cowboys GONNA lose twenty game. They are not beating the bears. The rams the eagles are going to help us go they lose lose into we go out and you will come in here and you'll be all upset at me you'll cut me off you'll never let you say it's my turn you say I'm bored. Take care of the ball throw it over the fence. You'RE GONNA be all Saudi and say okay. I won't talk the rest of this. The cowboys though has Jason Garrett lost the Locker Room because Y- I don't know but I think the locker room just tune in Jim out. Yeah it's just like always in their ears like fuzz area. I wonder because when I was in I was in Miami Coast Bronco rest in peace. Lost Locker Room. He got fired. Same thing happen in Detroit with Jim Schwartz our first year and we had a good football. Calvin Johnson's Oh you stafford. We were throwing a ball but we couldn't. We couldn't hold onto it. We're like Google. We sat records and then we return in the football over too much though and so I just wonder has Jason Losses Locker Room because I'm hearing reports of guys shouting important fingers and once that happened sharp. You know once that happened once lose that locker room there there is nothing you can do. That only happened in the locker room with the coach has no control now. Could be right. So the scariest words that I ever hear about this football team came out of your mouth to start this discussion. You said this is the most talented team every time I hear that I just cringed because it just doesn't play I got I got I look at on paper and I'm like ooh. Wow I got I got into a great place to work. I saw this team get hot. Catch catch fire late last year or ten games KGO eight and two. They couldn't stop making plays every time I turn around. They made another play that worked out. What's the one you like? Talk about against the the Eagle at Gerry world. Where Amari look like the ball was intercepted popped up in the air and he snatched up took it in the end zone long time last year? Okay that's what happens when you're hot in. This team is not hot and it never got hot the whole years so at six and six and to your point having unbeaten one decent team and beat one team with a winning record except for quote Unquote Philadelphia. which is not a decent team so philly has made possible? CIBLE Dallas in Philly made possible Dallas because Dallas beat Philadelphia Back on October twentieth at Gerry World and the cowboys completely uncharacteristically characteristically early in that game did two things. They don't do the rest of the year. They forced two turnovers. They don't force turnovers there at the bottom of the barrel enforcing talk they're dead last at intercepting passes. They've intercepted four all year but that night at Gerry World National TV. Right out of the box wins throws to Dallas Goddard appropriately named Dallas at Dallas and he gets dislodged from the football by Jalen Smith. And here we go. We took it right in and cash. So Enough Kevin here we go and Carson Wentz they get the kick off and they're back at their twenty yard line and he drops back and demarcus Lawrence did something that actually looked like he was one hundred million dollar player. You Strip sacked him and took fourteen yards for them to score and fourteen enough and that's pretty much the end of that ball game. I don't see that defense do that the rest of the year. So how can I trust it so once again. Vegas says your three-point favorite one to the bears Thursday night Fox be there watch it because because a lot of gang favorite every game at new work. I'll be watching this game with one eye closed. I don't trust him. Yeah Yeah I mean my own jinx them out. You know what I'm going to try that that's my new deal. I'm going to Walk Khalil Matt Now Watch just one count on it okay. Well you know he will be so. Here's pardon my language. This is the damnedest dynamic I am ever encountered in my history of covering pro football. The damnedest dynamic is Dallas can go lose to the bears and come home and lose to the rams and it just doesn't matter it doesn't matter because all they do they have to go to Philly and win and then they would have to come back home and beat the redskins and they would win the NFC east and they would get home playoff off game. Thank you very much and I think they're going to do that. Because the one game I do trust the man is at Philly. I just think they love to play against the eagles. That kinda got the eagles number I think they got Carson Winston number. I think you could be right. Yeah Yeah we're GONNA show you don't have my number changed. My number is no longer in service serviced by the throw for three meals and three down to get up Outta here with his. He's GonNa Change from number eleven and number thirteen unlucky again. You'll find out you know he will show you why. Yeah on the best quarterback of that draft you know he's not GonNa say that. What are you GonNa say that is proven once and for all? He is the best quarterback in this division and that will prevail in the so again. Dallas is a product Philadelphia. And they're going to win the division because Philly is even worse than they are. That's the bottom line to this division. You'll be saying yeah you'll be saying I can't be any sadder than I have been for six watching this team. Wait till Friday. Yeah wait till Friday. I don't care about Thursday night go I swear I don't care they'll probably lose to anal. Probe is guard cargo in December. That oh my something different about no water. Coming off Lake Michigan Dax wearing that glove owners right in in sixty degree weather. So there you go okay. We're in that your team. Spit the bit at Miami relegated back. We gave you an early Christmas present on Thanksgiving and you took it right down to Miami and dropped it right neo. She what what we're we're going to go last four games four L. Division. You should win three of them. Real went to giants and redskins way to go plato. You had had passed since the easiest to close in the NFL. Easiest to close at Miami to what am I. What am I would do to the Patriots last year? That was that. Was Tom Brady Brady you. Cain such a positive have approach to surprise. My team can't lose for winning because they try to lose but they keep winning. Thanks to your team winning a habit so is losing not it is. Yeah and to your point. Let's say hypothetically they lose to bears and lose Dharamshala uh-huh well then they would have lost five of six. They would be six and eight going to Philadelphia. And how much confidence would they have. I don't know it's just something about the flip. The switch sweat. I think Jerry Golfing Todd. Gurley got before they have for the cardinals. I really see that happening. Yeah well to your point. The bears have won three of their last four and it looked like like the rams flip the switch they said here we go. We're back to being donal. I can't find in most. I'll tell you what turned the TV channel. Eleven to two week not appeal to Sunday Sunday in two weeks. ASRAT on Sunday you'll be divided air. You hear that. Oh he wants to show he can't find you. The best pass sources two weeks in a row. I saw him against little little tiny collar. Murray Exact Lewke say get out. They're the town using. That's the best. You'd never seen anybody family ego and get away from a pulled. Hamstring including the Patriots. Were stunned last night by the Texans allowing four passing touchdowns which was as many as they allowed all season then on the offensive side of the ball. Tom Brady was frustrated for the majority of the game and were shown in the sideline telling his receivers. They need to be better. The loss cost New England the lead for the number one seed in the AFC. After Baltimore's win over San Francisco earlier in the day. Join my hall of Famer and Fox Sports. NFL analyst the Eric Dickerson. Good Morning. Good to have you back Eric can you still see the Patriots winning the Super Bowl on those give this possible. I'd never thought they were going to this. You know I I never. Did you know you know what I'm saying with something. It's too good to be true. And you live they they will look in two good patriots. Really start off Kinda slow. You know they look this okay and I'm like some bus. I think it's going to be a team that that just gonNA come out of nowhere that's going to possibly be in the super the bowl this year. I never thought I don't know. I never thought the Patriots because the Patriots. They don't have the weapons that they've had before. I mean the system is still there but you know if you stop James White and you stop Abdul an element who they have to get. No separation If they had a bill net football team this would be a whole different football offensively. Yup Yep and defensively. They're good but they're not great. You know I think their Fifth League and punts now you think about when you punt that time and you put that many times Eh. You're deflate. Hey guess you gotta get us off this church chasing these guys all over the field so for me. I just never thought the Patriots going when I could be wrong. I could be wrong but almost standby I never did. And I don't think they're going to take I think they can but it won't be Tom. Brady is the MVP. The strength of this team is the defense. And if you look at it. They're like I skip early. This morning. Got Upset I say right now. Tom Tom Brady the Grand Marshal Manipuri into a number waving and all the other guys the defense they all the heavy lifting because you see and when you keep putting the ball. I don't care how great your defense is. Keep putting him out there on the field and you'll you see what happened to him and we saw that last night. PUTT PUTT PUTT. And next thing you know big play big-play big-play big-play warm down. And plus. Eventually you got to disguise awesome. Thank you just can't live up in the cook. They say they'll be better than you guys. When you plan the Radovan Kansas City they had those lockdown? Okay we play man covers so what you know we landed up in come come beat us But skip I get Tom Brady has done he got he. The Patriots won six or vote in a lot of those games. Tom Brady has been second to know. Well it but at this year yep he's nineteenth and QB Ara he's he's number one incompletions. He's number one in completion. The Tales. That's like saying James Harden has made more free than anybody is. You attempted more so that should be a pretty good trait. I'll if Lebron arguing art he would closely and we try to get us out of it right now. Baltimore looks like the Best Team in the AFC they played they can run the football. Obviously with those three headed mark months to Lamar Jackson Gus Edwards and and marking locking. Their defense is plenty good enough they get they get enough pressure they got good cornerback. Indeed you up considering that like like IDI will say they don't really have anybody outta outside of element in the receiver core. James White is out of the backfield and so the thing for what I do for him is that I'll make stayed in block so I bring the extra guy because see they talk about the other day and then Bradley become good and get a sack. So that's what I would do that. You have to fourth block. Because he's really dangerous. He gets messed up on the LINEBACKER. He's he's GonNa win nine times out of ten in going to find him. So Braid is not that same guy that he once was and we're starting to see it is apparent is obviously everybody. It was the parents pro. Football focus on. ESPN advocate it. Probably around they gave the twitter yourself he nineteen eighteen nineteen QBR. Danny dives. WHO LOVES AS TRAE Games? I know internal machine known as Jayme was Winston. QBR skilled guy our our breakers. Because it's not their fault. It's not their fault. They Tom Brady gets his brave from you deserve this year I ask you one last is he done. Is he washed. He's washing lizzy wash for the rest. This football season this man calls him an old man is he done. I just I just want to know. I need a ride off Omega Panama Jackson. John Watson Patrick Mahomes for sure uh I mean what you what you mean is he doing. Is he washed up for the rest of this year. We're there's no way he can lift that team. What I just told you he can go? Oh for the Grand Marshal Graham Parade. Okay Kerry well. There's no way if he continues to the offense continue to struggle. They're going to get to the super. Here's the thing look says. Wait a second. The hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe told me all year New England's defense is overrated and it looked pretty overrated last night because Sean just shoot it up and spat it out. Yeah see normally. They're playing jazz and they're playing teams that don't pull the potential threat. You pose a threat and you. Tom Brady to score. So you can be in business out just for the records after all this stuff that I heard from both of these hall of Famer. Just I don't know these are the final team stats from last night. What if I told you going into the game? That New England would wind up with twenty nine first downs to Houston Sixteen twenty nine to sixteen. What if I told you New England would go nine of seventeen on third down as good? That's pretty good. Isn't it a second. I'm asking questions to be answered. What if I told you New England had a grand total of four hundred? Forty eight yards to deshaun Watson Company having two seventy six and what if I told you New England ran the ball for one forty five to a paltry fifty two for the Houston and Texans at home on their turf. And what if I told you you guys do you huffing and puffing out there. What if I told you that Tom Brady held the ball for thirty five minutes? To Houston's it's twenty five minutes what would you tell me what if I told you before the game. Those are the numbers. You'd say noon this game by three touch Norwood. Who won the game? Yeah House you were. You told me the divas out there. What are we doing it? Just keep putting wait a sec. They held the ball for thirty five. Twenty nine you're right interesting. You're absolutely it'll be right. That's what we show you. Would if you watch the game and you see Tom Brady do nothing to and a half quarter. He was separate. He was fifteen to thirty four forty four percent. One eighty nine one touchdown what I teed to garbage. You know what I'm going to have to figure out. Football has new rules this year. where it's over after two and a half quarters you keep telling me what about the first two and a half? Well what about the last quarter and a half to count count on the score count against against Atlanta in the super bowl going back. We're talking about this year. Okay and you see gang. Visualize last night came down to an onside side. caped brain embolden got his hand. Can we see that real quick. This is fifty seconds left in the game and if he comes up with this football I would not bet against Tom Brady in that. I Bet I guess what I did for the last drive my guest today. Take you on the floor saying please God don't these. He's got all got his Hanoi got a little bit. They let a whole data company landed in the Super Bowl. I just said okay. So here's the point to your point. Okay Tom Brady has the least threatening weapons in all a pro football and an aid even close if I just grade receiver cores around the league. This is the worst one by far because I watched Miami Spring big upset that. Put My cowboys back in the driver's seat a yesterday and I'm looking at their receivers thinking devante Parker and Alan hearns. And and the kid from Penn state the big tight end. I'm thinking the I'll take those three three over anything. New England has they started Matt Lukasz at tight end last night. He's bounced right. He got cut twice by New York football giants and he was the starting tight it in and what happened in the end was you're right. Romeo backed off but for the first half he said you know what I'm going to double James Wise and I'm going to double element. You can't have them. Uh Well. Brady's trying to throw it to Kiel Harry. His first round choice he tries one throat and the Keel. Just it's bright lights big stage and he didn't come very hard hard for the football and he didn't fight for the football and he let roby run his route for him and that was the last target that he got that whole night because they doghouse. And then Tom Hamas had no run game the whole year and guess what He. I don't know if this year Josh mcdaniels in the second half Sawyer Shell. You're in the doghouse. You're out of the game. They just took the game and they're running the ball the whole second half with little tiny James White. What does he like five seven? He can't run through anybody he's got to have let me issue this. Tom Brady is super bowl. Now here's his wide. Receiver was giving branch patent and Brown. April ranch was a study was a super bowl. Mvp I guess what he he went to Seattle. Study okay but again he was a really good player. You can separate separate separate but my thing is is is that you make. It seem like all of a sudden he didn't we. That's what that's how Brady made his name because he was doing it with guys. Let Me Marvin Harris the top along with guy guys. He's Nikiel Harry's playing his third game he's trying to get him up to speed. He won't get up to speed and he says you're out of the game and then Jacoby Meyer. He's an undrafted rookie. Free agent and Tom got frustrated on that third and six play in the second. A quarter were saying just go. We could see that play quickly. He just just go I got you. There's nobody behind you. He broke his route off to come to Tom. Tom's just just saying just go and he throws it should be and Jacoby is looking around like I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do and Tom goes to the bench and he's still talking to nobody about you. Guys you got to be quicker you gotta be faster you got to be more explosive. And I'm saying you can't get blood from turnips. There are no. They're all. I know a guy. Yesterday the half four touchdown throw two undrafted frigid Aaron Rodgers Czar undrafted free. You Ronald Allison Davante Adams uh-huh second round. Oh God seventh-round quarterback that's all you got in the last quarter and a half Brady just said Hell with it. I'm forgetting about Jacoby unforgiving about Matt Lacoste. I'm definitely forget about into Keel Harry and Sony Michelle so guess what I'm going back. I'm doing blast from pass. I'M GONNA go back to what Brung me. What got me here? I'M GONNA throw it to element thought too little james and he just kept throwing the both of them and it kept working because to your point they had backed off. They went from playing sixties and they tried to play straight up but nobody will play them honestly anymore. With Jacoby Myers in the line are Philip door. said he's given up. He threw three balls or set last night. Where he's saying? What what are you doing and I thought silicon? I knew how to play to skip. The thing is that because teams don't feel them running the football now. They're willing to go sixty Herat. What happened last year when you try to go six six beat they run the ball throw in the right now? They can't cash. We're GONNA play. We're GONNA play Nikola Gates Dad and so at the end of the the third quarter. Chris Cosworth on. NBC is saying Brady has more time tonight that he's had the whole year true right but he said nobody can separate great. Well what what else. It's not brady washed up. Just somebody what are your thoughts about. When he broke the record for throwaways two two years in a row you give who Lee now? He's leading but he ain't breaking loose. Who threw away? Aaron Rodgers made it unbreakable. The guy is winning. Night and completion percentage leads the whole. NFL incompletions that's pretty good. What about that's what he did throw for three twenty six? I ain't writing them off a garbage at your own peril. Aby Me going to be going to work for two and a half hour then go go to the county I do not know Tricia must what you'll be drinking. Metrics attracts is great. Yeah but you you you drink beer. Tom Brady getting drinking beer enough. And he'll be calories no empty calories if they can get you a near Miss Onside kick. I'd I'd take all those Jose people. Some people did just what you did. Look Their Stash E. Three twenty six. But they didn't see what I saw the glove quoting what I saw last year in the next two weeks of the football season I saw this same New England team. Go to Miami and lose and then I saw him go to Pittsburgh and loose and I heard this man across me after the students. Say He's. He's flinching yes I do. And then you were flinching win. The chargers went up there for that playoff game do like I I just want I just won't we can get him a new job and receive with not getting open yelling screaming. We need to do better word. Then I don't WanNa hear no bad teammate. He me okay when Tom Brady gets back on a roll and they do the play offs. I don't WanNa hear were on a roll against Patty mahomes and the yeah I mean he looks Lord and Tom Brady stop talking. Slow motion Bercy. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny Taft join us again at nine thirty. Am Eastern on Monday for another week of undisputed. We'll see that of of.

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2019 Championship Weekend Recap

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2019 Championship Weekend Recap

"Around with the NFL podcast hopes. The patriots make the Super Bowl. Welcome back to another or the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan hands this, and I am joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark sesser Chris Wesseling hand, Greg Rosenthal. What does that boys? Championship Sunday in the books and a historic championship Sunday to overtime games. Played sudden-death football with the Super Bowl on the line. And almost from my opinion almost a perfect day of football. It didn't quite work out. The the patriots are moving on. Again. We'll say your team, Dan is moving. I got the lock covers them through your weight behind them through my way behind them. And I I did get the lock, but there's an old Bill Simmons. You know, who's one of the more influential Boston sports writers in the last twenty five years. He used to say it over and over again back in the day before Boston started winning titles, and every sport every year when he would lament the existence of the Yankees, he said rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for the house and blackjack the great, and I think that Greg and Erica on the special day. I would never take it away any of this from you because you get enjoy another trip nine trips now for Tom Brady the Super Bowl. But if you if you're ever wondering, why is Dan why is Mark wise so much of America salty, is that nobody likes to see the house clean out. Good people on the other side of the table. And that's what happens if. Every january. It was remarkably similar and yes for our listeners despite the lock Dan was living and dying with that game as chief. So. It's fan. I don't blame you at all west nailed it. It was satire on Thursday and a bit of a reverse jinx. And if you thought I was actually rooting for the patriots. You're listening to the wrong podcast or mentally deficient. I mean read between the lines I will never root for the pets. So I was rooting for the cheese and got to the point where Greg disappeared about midway through the fourth quarter. And it took a couple of seconds three. Oh, he's probably upstairs with Ricky three minutes left. Yeah. Dossier dope here. About three minutes left tempo. See hits me with the slack. Like, you should just come up here. And I was like, oh, yeah. Like up. It's wicked fun up here. Life is short. I want to sit in this newsroom like result. Good or bad this. This might be the last time there in this in this news room where everyone is against them. And it's just like annoying sort of being surrounded as you guys. Get imagine. I mean for jets Browns games or do. I want to come up here with a with a charming energetic. Patriots fan here who I could enjoy that. I totally see why you shifted seats. Mark would seem I when you got up like and you're like in your little sports coat and you'd like darted sheepishly down the aisle with with your lab will your laptop. I thought where is Greg going in the middle of this like critical while I was like, okay. And you know, what I don't blame you because you were surrounded on all surrounded by people that did not want your team to succeed on any level in America. Just the whole newsroom, I think there was. There was like when the patriots won. There was an audible like nothingness in the room, just a few groans and no respond. There was one moment where I thought it would be nice to be down there. And that was when gronk made that catch down the sideline because I would have liked to hear Chris Wesleyan's guttural enjoyment because he he was he he loves a good gronk well in Brady moment on the fan. That play. But I was screaming and yelling overtime astonished at Tom Brady being in the zone and just unfurling one after another in peck -able ball placement on all of these throws. All right. Great setup. Wes, you set the table nicely there. Because the way I look at it since hosting the podcast. Let's get this out of the way and talk about the patriots. And chiefs from Arrowhead championships, Sunday, let's begin Grady under center, a gift of Burke at. Ever. Pursue per bowl. Fifty three. Call though, saying go back. More Steiner's back. Super Bowl, five years pack, your bags store causes covered hopeless. There's a human red bull can Scott Zolak along with Bob Sochi WBZ with all the patriots recalling memories of their last Super Bowl. Conquest won the overtime coin toss and March right down the field to glory this time BreX Burkett scoring from two yards out the final play in the patriots thirty seven thirty one win over the chiefs that arrow head in the AFC title game Tom Brady a surgeon during that final March. And now begins prep for what will be his nights Super Bowl. That is just west wild game. Multiple lead changes defense that could get a stop on either side of the ball and a legendary QB came through yet again four fourth quarter lead changes several replay reviews that look like they could have gone either way nother in a long line of two minute drill. Touchdown drives by Tom Brady. A thirty second field drive with two great throws by Patrick Mahomes. And then Tom Tom Brady to start over. Time has one of the best exhibitions of ball placement. I've ever seen and this man was in the platonic ideal of the leg zone. He was there. He said before the playoffs started in in their by week that there's nothing in his life in football or outside of it that can replace the feeling that you have during the playoffs, and he has played like at the last two weeks and the patriots have played like they have played their best two games of the season in the playoffs in what stands out about those drives there. So short handed on the outside the trying to throw it to door set. They're trying to count on Cordeiro Patterson to win off the line of scrimmage and catch a pass that they're getting to these third and long situations. And then who do you go to their it's Julia Nedal men who was not as best for much of the season. And it's gronk who had one of his if not his best game of the season. They needed three touchdowns to win the game. On their last three drives. They got three touchdowns on their last three drives and Eshelman and gronk had one hundred six of the hundred forty seven yards on those three drives. It was those three guys and James white earlier in the game kind of the guys you think of as the patriots in this now four to five year run where they keep making it back. I think it was more than that too. Because for the second straight week the patriots coaching staff that should not be a shock to us. Put on long stretches of minutes of dominant play and play calling with frankly roster on offense that I think other coaching staffs would not be anywhere close to the AFC championship. With some of the guys Tom Brady's throwing too. And for all the heat that we give New England in the exhaustion around whatever the experience is covering this team going back to the Super Bowl. I mean, I think down the road as a human being that loves football, you cannot help. But look back on what Brady doesn't a game. Like this where the whole narrative all week is, you know. Understandably he's an older quarterback. It's going to be twenty degrees. It's gonna feel like it's three degrees. You're going up against young Patrick Mahomes homes who like impervious to cold and Brady shrugged off all the elements. Mother nature can't take him out. And I think also the defense which we kind of can gloss over because there's so many known quantities on offense played for the first half incredible half football until the chiefs got play a cheese put up twenty four points in the fourth quarter and Patrick Mahomes looked every bit the MVP in the second half of the first half. Though. They didn't score a point into late in the quarter. Right. Did they get a touchdown late in the quarter day? It was such nothing. Fourteen. Heavy thank you. They got on the board almost immediately in the third quarter. I wanna point out one more thing on this. The patriots that I think is overlook Brady is brilliant. And on that last drive at just built it just felt like it was done. The coin the coin flip which call. Heads always call heads every ball like west saying right where needed to be. And I think what's not getting enough love and certainly will. Because what else? Do you talk about the patriots for two weeks now, which we have to do every year now? But the offense of line deserves a lot of credit for what they did these last two weeks. We know that Brady is old and slow and doesn't like getting hit that hasn't changed. Just because now they're winning the playoffs. He still doesn't like it. But they too often. If you're a chief span, or if you're charges fan, you just couldn't get near the guy and that just a credit to their line. Absolutely. And I want to touch back on Mark set about the patriots coaching staff. These are two of the most dominant first half you will ever see in the postseason, and they have forty first downs versus thirty nine total plays for the chiefs. And chargers in the first half of the last two games. They had more I down than the other teams had total plays in both games in bell talked about after game. They could have scored more points. They struggled in short. Yardage Brady's interception on the goal line would have been the play that patriots fans remembered if they went on to lose this game. But the chiefs defense which is not great all day by the end of that game. They were worn out. The patriots ran ninety four plays not even counting penalties. It would have been even more ninety four plays to forty seven for the chiefs. The patriots had more runs in that game than the chiefs had plays. And then made Patrick Mahomes need to be perfectly. And that if they had won this game the chiefs that is it would have been such a great individual performance by Mahomes who made mistakes in the first half. Because for the most part. I think they beat good play calls that Mahomes one late in the down where it was just Mahomes. Magic other than the touchdown play. Which came kind of on a another controversial play a million plays. You could look back on. And it was a pick play by the chiefs for the most part their scheme wasn't winning. It was Mahomes winning. I don't want to say this because it's going to seem like I'm just being salty as Ricky in the millennials say, but we're well after the game if our Britain the money will say that people are being solved like an old have a little salt with your dinner. For forty years. If anyone was out there watching our skysports it right after the game, which was well after midnight in the UK. It was it was a Celtic. It was it was a fun five minutes for me because right after the game as salty as Dan and Mark have ever been feel like on air. We're an hour plus removed from that. Now. Down. It was salty. But this is what needs to be said. And I don't care patriots fans. Could you know, stick it up to butts luck is a big part of what's been an incredible ride for them as well and his point to ten different plays and almost every year things that just seem to go their way. And that's part of what drives the patriots drives. You crazy is a patriots hater in this case. It was a play that will stick with the chiefs and their fans and deport for the rest of their lives. And it was and it's funny. How it changes everything Joe Montana? I've talked about on this podcast before Billips of the Bengals defensive back. Let's a game ending interception. Go through his hands. That keeps Joe Montana the Niners alive and Super Bowl twenty three. So Joe Montana's not remembered for that interception. He's remembered as a guy could never get beaten in the Super Bowl gronk who were saying how great game and he did. And it was a bounce back effort offensively for gronk. If defor doesn't line up with his foot. In the neutral zone, which is an inexcusable play in the fourth quarter of the AFC title game. This game is remembered as the end of Brady and gronk because gronk let a ball go right through his hands and into the opponent's hands for game ending interception. That is the chiefs run my pain rankings years ago that is painful way to lose. And we saw two games that are very painful ways to lose today. But cheese fans will never forget deport and never forgive him for that. I agree one hundred percent. But I also feel like seasons could pass where you find a patriots player doing the same thing. I it's the biggest moment and the drummed into their heads the details the little moments like that. I I think it's an excellent it's believable from other teams. It's not believable from the patriots. And they do create some of their own luck. I mean one sequence that either there's like twenty five thirty more plays. But that is I you could say both sides that is the game deciding play with the chiefs nursing a four point lead. But then I offer it wasn't until it was third and nine on the very first overtime drive. And you throw a low percentage throw then that's the game play if the chiefs make the over if the if d Ford has his feet on the right side of one just saying it is what it is undeniable that the patriots have been lucky throughout this dynasty. But they've also that goes both ways like if not for the helmet catch and Wes Welker drop. They have two more super. Yes. My answer for that. Absolutely. And I think luck is underrated for how much it affects all of sports, especially the NFL where it does come down to a few place. It's a monster factor. But the part that's not lucky as putting yourself in position again, and again because the patient agree with Atri. It's have been on the other side, not just of painful Super Bowl losses, but a painful AFC championship game losses which came down to a play where they could go pick out a luck. So the magic is just kind of getting into that moment, the call that that got me agitated was the. Because it's not it isn't let's even remove it from patriots chief specific at just see too many of these roughing the passer, call the one that was on Chris Jones where the replay shows in my mind, Chris Jones following through with an attempt to swamp the ball or get something on Brady and not really going for the head on any level. And ultimately, it looks like it's hand kind of just went on Brady's jersey and said let me straighten that out for you, sir before I get flagged for killer penalty. Yeah. That was the only time you heard Chris Jones his name today. I mean, you only heard guys I don't think I heard just in Houston. It is it gets it gets. So a roughing the passer penalty that kick started. I believe the drive that put the patriots ahead lay. It would have been a third and seven for the patriots. If they didn't get that call. But that's kind of what I mean is like if you don't get that call and chiefs fans remember that call based on what Brady did on third down the rest of the game in overtime, especially at that point. It's like I would have trusted Brady make the next I'm sort of saying even remove it from this specific game. It's just more those calls don't really have a place in my mind in a huge moment. Like that. It's so redundant to say this every game before the patriots square off against someone with a great pass rush. Oh, we'll this will be the team to finally makes life tough on Tom Brady. And you thought it was Joey Bosa and the chargers, and then you thought today. Oh, the team that they can't do a lot well on defense, but they. I've been playing well. And they lead the league in sacks. You're gonna find a way in Arrowhead in gutting Lee. Freezing temperatures to make life uncomfortable for a forty one year old quarterback, and they don't even get to them. I mean, they almost had a golden which longtime listeners of the podcast mean, no QB hits. No sacks depending on which that service you trust. Jesus. ESPN Derek Nandi may of had a quarterback hit in this game. But the fact that he dropped back forty six times, the average two and a half seconds getting rid of the ball. So that's more Brady than the offensive line. But it was also the protection scheme in Romo did a great job point out gronk chipping the coach the best day of anyone to Roma was unbelievable and Brady didn't leave the pocket one single time. So it's forty six times in the pocket without being touched. Like that's everything coming together. That's but it's Brady more than anyone in the. That's why I love Romo is that. He has a better feel for when the. Quarterbacks are changing the play at the line of scrimmage what they're Chania to how many times in this game. Did he point that out right before Brady made the perfect play call including on a fourth and goal on the goal line where he changed it to a successful? Touchdown. It's like that's his magic. Like if you wanna know his magic. That's number one magic. That's Brady's minutes. I go back again to New England's coaching staff because they know that they have a quarterback that's not going to scamper free left and right rolling around the field and throwing side arm like Patrick, Mahomes, if you if you do get to them he's in hot water, and they find a way with a lot of offensive linemen that sometimes they rotate an announcement. Even know who these guys are he doesn't get touched. It's just like this is coaching. This like this is what the Rams enough to deal with. And I think to have to run it forty eight times people. The patriots won against every tendency that analytic say don't run first down there in on first down for much of the game. And I think ultimately hat, but here's then they transition when it wasn't working. Here's my beef with. People use in Olympics analytics or to go against tendency. Right. That's how I work when everyone else is going one way you go the other way because that's where the value is take it out of your hat. I do feel free reach confusing. I dunno bandy. I feel so Andy Reid. Yeah. That is that's a bummer because here's the good news. Randy read, Patrick Mahomes is going to be on his team next year to and you know, what they need to do to get better. They need more impact players. And perhaps I did do a little web surfing the millennials still use web. Malaya's now that we targeted posts hard. Hard to connect with the youth to get the podcast number. But it sounds like we're kind of taking a bit of a shot at them every time we kinda that's down at their years saying I want go that is not the way I said that is how you seem to say it to me. I looked up a chief sub read it just to see where the fans are at emotionally. And as you imagine up as you can imagine bitterly disappointed still optimistic about the future with Mahomes there. But everybody wants Bob Sutton fired. But I don't even know like Bob Sutton their defensive coordinator. Obviously the chiefs had no answers trait. Second half adjustment. While here's the thing. Also, it's like you could kill Bob Sutton for his defense giving touchdown drives every position down the stretch. But they're on the field for one hundred plays. It was the same. It was such a carbon copy. I'm sure you have in grain in your head, Greg. How many plays the patriots run in the falcons Super Bowl? It was the same thing. Lanta had nothing left in the tank by the end of the game. And the coin toss really you could argue Patrick Mahomes never gets on the field and. Overtime which is heartbreaking for the chiefs. But that Quintas because the side of the game. I agree with that on the coin toss it, but it all starts early. And that's when the patriots coach is one. How good are have the chiefs been in the first quarter. How good is Andy Reid been scripting plays, and they were bamboozle than the first court if teen play eight minute drive touched. So the patriots start perfect on offense in the chiefs start. I think with two three and outs for the first time. They had all year. The patriots had a plan double hill, and they had Gilmore on on Travis Kelsey in the second half. They had a different matchup in the first half. They switched it up. They threw the ball eight times to those two guys. Those are the two best player. They had four catches for sixty seven yards. They shut down those guys it worked to perfection in the first half in the second half. They take Jesse Jackson Kelsey because he was getting burnt and that was JC Jackson was leading all Cornerbacks in opposing passer rating entering this game. And he got fried three penalties in the fourth quarter. Alone. I mean, they I always I was not sure about the whole keep it away from Mahomes. That's the way to do it. Because ultimately still have to score more when you have the ball. But in the first half, the only had the three times. I mean, that's kind of they punted off three the only had nineteen plays that that was their first half on their first two drives when for negative to you have to that they were the chiefs after that they were the chiefs. And then some I think that the patriots. I mean, you know, everyone made a big deal as it should have last week when they came out against the chargers with a seven plus minute drive. Opening drive touchdown, which was the longest in Bill Belichick's New England history. So they come out today when you kind of see what they've been doing to everyone, and they have a longer drive that record didn't even stand a full seven days mentioned how the chiefs did nothing in the first half Mahomes, who was brilliant as we said in the second half. He takes a little blame for what happened in the first half, the one possession that really got away. From is the big completion of tyreek hill who was very quiet in the. Game as we said they were set up to get on the board. He misses a wide oval was it Watkins wide open Sammy Watkins, and then takes a bad as in Williams about on the wheel route and then takes a bad sack and that took him out of field goal range. So they were they were out of sorts in the first half. But as that asserts as they were in the first half they scored a touchdown. I think four plays into the third quarter. And at that point, it was a totally different. They got the best game. They've had all season from Sammy Watkins who's been banged up. And I think that a lot to do with tyreek hill being essentially at race. I mean, they scored twenty four points in the fourth quarter that they that is outrageous. He got Mahomes got the ball back needing a touchdown with three thirty two. He almost did it too fast. And then he got the ball back again with thirty nine seconds left and had to unbelievable plays that not just about no quarterback is gonna make and sets them up for overtime. The only thing I would have gotten on read a little bit was like if I'm the patriots. I'm afraid of them going for the end zone. One more play and that's easy to that's easy to second. Guess, but I don't know the Super Bowl sitting there in front of you with eleven seconds left. I don't know that defensive alignment though, was not designed to give up a play like that and slash back over Miami. Where like people just kill after the game for something going read would have been killed if the young quarterback forced into cover to line to try to get to downfall and end the clock. And the thing runs two zero read would be getting destroyed one of the images. I will remember from today. More than any other is Erica tampo see dancing with her Tampa jersey and in back of the glass while we were about to do the sky hit. But Dan and Mark refusing to look up at her. I did not see I gave you like a I'm happy for you wasn't of that kind of luck. Can we the house and blackjack winds? Congratulations. Thank you take that brings. Mark. Why don't you come with me, man? It. But I kinda just said, you know, what I'm gonna roll with the the home team thought that I was sitting pretty after the road team won the first game today. A spoiler alert last thoughts. West can we stand in all of Tom Brady and put his greatness into perspective for a minute here? Mike Giardi are patriots reporter on NFL network said that he entered the facility early in the week and said announced to everyone. I'm the baddest mother trucker on the planet when he walked in the door. And then Juliet omen says he proceeded the practice all week better than he hasn't anytime all season. He now this is where he stands against his competition as a quarterback legend twenty eight more touchdowns thirty five seventy eight more yard thirty six hundred more yards thirteen more victories and for more Super Bowl appearances than any other quarterback in postseason history has more. Yeah. Wow. More appearances than Montana. They're the same that Montana even made it and since his thirty fifth. Birthday. He's his numbers stack up against anyone's further career just about I mean, I think you have to consider him like a Michael Jordan level player in his split agree with that. And speaking of putting greatness in perspective every legendary chapter that gets added to this book west every year only enhances the greatness of what L I manning and Tom Coughlin. In two separate Super Bowls. It just enhances allies hall candidacy, it just it makes coughing look like even more of a genius. But those yet to me now like in and I'll say this if the patriots lose uncivil Sunday to that enhance the losses enhanced Brady's reputation too because I was thinking about that. And you like you don't wanna see your team losing the Super Bowl, and they're kind of boring to cover and all that stuff. But to have this performance like they could go loose forty one to nothing in the Super Bowl and to have this sort of performance, which to me is up there with anything that Brady is done to do it. Another to do something you end done before win on the road. Like this for gronk to have that moment in like when everyone was making retirement jokes about it. No matter what happens in the next one. They earn. So hold on his way back the truck up in retirement jokes about grunk daily news one thing if they lose forty one nothing in the Super Bowl. No one is going to care about this game or the lab, and I will. And I mean the larger reflection of Tom Brady if they walk in and get blank, forty one. Nothing. No one's gonna remember that they beat the chargers. It's an it's an extreme example. But I did is extreme I do think that that is the sign of greatness showing up that many different times, and you have to show up, and you lose that. You're going lose show up nine times. Speaking a blackjack. This is what we cannot be doing this for the patriots the whole thing when the patriots in the Super Bowl. It is very for patriot haters like Mark myself when they make this when they make the Super Bowl it's like doubling down and blackjack because there's nothing better than a patriots loss in the Super Bowl. But there's nothing worse than hitter. It's one thing because there were that we've been to where I was like rooting for Tom Brady think conflicted over the years, I can tell you really respect Bella chicken Brady, but you seem to just be exhausted by I it's just like I said on Sky Sports. It's not the game itself because they played these amazing Super Bowls. It is it is it is fun to go to the Super Bowl. No matter what we're gonna have a great time. But I just sometimes like new stories in fresh stories. That's at that. It's not even really a complaint. It's just an observation of like the run up to the Super Bowl is always slightly absurd whoever's involved, and it's going to be, you know, this is even like an take all the Sean McVay think pieces that are coming at us. And it's going to it's going to and all those put them in the background because it's gonna be another. Oh. Nellie Brady thing. Now, you got it all wrong. It's going to be the young genius against the old. We'll be will be. It's not going to be Sean McVeigh's stage alone on any leads because of this. It's gonna be an annoy the narrative writers are gonna have either way because either the patriots kind of dot the dynasty by coming back around Brady seventeen years later against the Rams or the Rams like end the dynasty by kind of coming back around seven win or lose back the next to your stupid. They're stupid put any dot or explanation point on the patriots just going to go on forever, right? This is no does via Tifico Eric tape there. I feel like. By the way, by the way, you wanna weeks of this to Mark want new stories you've never been to Super Bowl that the patriots have one with me. Why can't you just be happy guy? Can't you see how you're the last person that I'm would be educated at, but it's just it's we've done this rig five or six head of. Oh, brag. I'm asking you for lung. Forget about him. He's going to be in my ear for like the next forty hour gotta move. But I'll remember this. When Baker mayfield's at his ninth Super Bowl start being all cranky. And you're you're when you're well that for years old, we will be sixties. All right. Let's move onto the other title game today. Played earlier at the Superdome. Seven yard try to win. The NFC championship game. Behold is down the kit clears the line and Greg's line. Super bowl. Bharti ks J long with the call. Greg the leg Zor line early. Fifty seven yard field goal with room to spare the decider in the Rams twenty six twenty three overtime win over the saints. The NFC title game. It was the person. Only leave for the Rams on Sunday battled back from thirteen. Nothing. First half deficit to secure their first SuperBowl Perth sits the two thousand one season. A lot to get into here Cudi. No, call that will haunt the saints forever. But let's start here. The Rams bound away win a game in which Todd Gurley had just five touches markets testament to a team that we heard all season lives and dies by Todd Gurley. Well, they lived without. There's a lot to as you said touch on this. And we can yes, that's why I'll open just this. This reminded me of what the saints did a week ago where the saints got into a fourteen nothing whole against the eagles. And showed I thought great resilience at home to find their sea legs on offense and do just enough to win that game. This Rams team. We we asked all week. What would it be like to play in the Superdome? Will they came in earlier in the year and put up a bunch of points? So maybe all this stuff. About crowd noise is totally overblown. But this was one of the more lathered up fiery crowds that I can remember ever really watching in the playoffs and it visibly through the Rams off their step early on. There were like the couldn't hear legitimately there were communication issues in goff's helmet that they had to deal with but they showed them over and over and treatment because he's been there. You could see what was happening. They couldn't even get the play out in the huddle. And it put Goff into a situation where it wasn't just Sean McVeigh, you know, throwing seep homes into his ear, and let's put up fifty points. It was like having to find your way out of that morass without your best player operating almost mysteriously on the sideline. Because you find that Sean McVay simply trusted CJ Anderson more down the stretch in that game. And I'll let you guys on Paxton of the other stuff. But I thought that the Rams who at times have been on my radar. This is the kind of game where you cannot help. But believe in them entirely with the way, they handled one of the toughest environments to play one one of we'll get all the controversy stuff. But the surprising most surprising thing in this game. To me is that both defenses really won. I mean, neither team could run the ball at all. Neither quarterback. I would say played a great game or even like a B plus game for how talented they are the two defenses one. But the Rams defense one more. I mean the Fowler. Sue, Donald Brocker made a few more plays to get to the point where it's thirteen nothing. They stopped them early after the Rams turnover which put the saints on a short field that was huge. And then in the final. Four drives the saints had three points. I mean, final seven drives. They had ten points. They really weren't the saints offense, which I was more surprised by that than anything because I just thought the Rams would have to have a great offensive day to win. And they didn't they wanted anyways. With one of the great kicks in NFL history. That's been overlooked a little bit too much in the post game because of all the controversial calls. Let's talk about the elephant in the room here, which is the non call that. Unfortunately, it will not be remembered for Greg the legs bomb, which should be because that was an incredible kick one of the best we've ever seen in the playoffs, but will be remembered for the no call Rams defensive back Nickell Robey Coleman who late in the fourth quarter with the saints in good position to run the clock. All the way down near the Rams goal line and kick the potential game winning field goal. Roby coleman. Sprint store the sideline to cover. Tommy lee. Louis on a wheel route collides with him seconds before the ball gets clear penalty to fans in the stadium. People watching at home Jean starter in the booth and even the NFL because after the game, Sean Payton said this just getting off the phone with the league office. They blew the call. I don't know if there was ever a more obvious pass interference call and the result of this was clock stops it leaves. They still kick the field goal to go ahead. But at least enough time for the saints to go down and tie the game. So this is the play that will scale remembered by Sean Payton devastated after the game. Because he knows that the flag comes out there. The saints are probably preparing for the Super Bowl right now. Here's what he had to say. We were playing football in the backyard. The team that committed the foul. I mean, it was it was obvious. Call. In how we can to Gus can look at that and come up with their decision and it happened though. So can't well on it. We probably never get over. You know, the truth. Is you always some of these losses like this? But one one like that. It's it's to better a third down from the twelve yard line with one forty eight to play score tied at twenty and the incompletion and lack of a first down allow the Rams a chance Roby Coleman west. After the game said, yes, I got there too early. I was beat and I was trying to save the touchdown. You don't see that admission to often should have been called pass interference could have been called defenseless receiver could have been called helmet-to-helmet could have been called unnecessary roughness. Take your pick the magnitude of the missed call is such that I guarantee you. There will be discussions about changing the roles on what can be challenged. And what can't be this is the history of the NFL and rule changes going back to even like the seventies. And Mike rann pros catching the oiler Steelers championship game that eventually led to instant replay review these things happen. And it's just it's a horrible horrible injustice, and is really going to take some of the attention away of drew Brees coming up short with that pass. And chomping getting too cute with his play calling at the end of the game. Those guys should be wearing goat horns. And instead the referees will be yeah. That's it brings up something that I really believe in bell. Check. Maybe because Belgium's says it's so much that it never comes down. Like it does come down to one play. But I refuse to believe that everything that happened before in that especially everything that happened afterward is invalidated by that one call which like all of these things can be true. It was absolutely miscall belts for what it's worth has proposed officially at annual meetings that every place would be review -able, and I think he probably will again, and that Saint dukes our really. Really, I don't I don't necessarily want that. But what I mean is though to your point the saints have a first down there where Sean Payton calls a pass instead of running at twice the kind of burn the Rams timeouts, and then maybe throwing on third down in drew Brees short arms a throw that he hits one saints fan hit me up with he that he hits two hundred and forty nine hundred two hundred fifty times that play came directly after drew Brees short arms a deep throat to Ted Ginn that Ted Ginn ended up making a play on because lamarcus Joyner didn't go after the ball. Several be short arm that I just don't think he has the arm for those which is well win MVP. I think his arm strike limitations were exposed down the stretch of the season. So Alvin Kamara has no gain the next play to all of the these things happen and in overtime the saints. Get the ball. I I mean, we could be talking about all they're lucky 'cause they won the coin toss there. But no, Dante Fowler gets pressure on breeze causes. Interception. And the Rams go win the game with one of the great kicks all of that happening doesn't invalidate it. But it's it's might be the worst call it certainly the most memorable missed call since the tuck rule, which it wasn't even a missed call. But I think just like the most memorable play. I think that Cowboys will counter with this caught it that. That's there. Yes. I I agree with you, Greg. I will say I think that the experience of the average sports fan, and by jet mean remarkable people just you're running the mill people watching watching games like out at bar folks out China painter Henson around there with a bunch of saints fans. Yes. And this call happens the response in a big crowded packed sports bar or in that stadium is not and I hear you're coming from. But you know, what here's twenty-five other things that could have gone differently. It's like a totally blown call at win the team on the threshold of making what is clearly most likely going to be the last real Super Bowl run that you're gonna get from breeze and Sean Payton. So I totally get the outrage fans have a right to be outraged. Not be totally centered. We watch these games in an office sober for the most part. You know, breaking down all the, ants and buts. We all just around the room. I'm just saying like. I lease sober-minded that we're not going crazy. We lose our cool too. But it's like this. The average sportsman cannot be asked to pick apart four thousand other scenarios to notify the fact that that was a terrible call it was rose. Oh sex. What else call? I think one of the most distasteful aspects of our job is every Monday morning having to cover ad nauseam. Controversial calls, right and fans are always too worked up about it. In this case. It's an exception. They have every right to be upset and think that their team got robbed and they should have one. Let's talk about other aspects of the game. Obviously that is such a huge part of this game. But there are other parts talk about like the fact that the saints came very close to running the Rams out of the building. And to Los Angeles is credit and the riots outside LA is on fire right now. Not literally. But I mean, the fans are going nuts here. Just kidding very quiet outside. How do you? I went for a walk the seven eleven before it gets very, quiet. Acres every Culver city is a pretty quiet place unless people lined up outside the gun store that I lie said it's very quiet outside thirteen nothing. Okay. Fourteen twenty three to play in the second quarter. The Rams facing a fourth and five at their own thirty. Okay. And I got issues with Sean McVeigh's decision to kick a field goal in the fourth quarter. When he should've went for it took the Tien set of going for the jugular, and it would have cost them. Got bailed out by the bogus call. That's that's him. Not hanging Jons, really surprising. But he absolutely hung onions in this spot. Johnny Hecker who never lets him down passes to shields. A big gain that got them lead to them getting on the board. And once they got the game back under control and got the game to thirteen ten late in the second quarter. They have touchdown drive everything they were fine from that point. But this game was this close tweet. That this game is teetering on the brink of another disappointing playoff game. And it just changed after that fake. Punt call I I think that you're exactly right denied the one thing about the Rams offense showing resilience. But I thought by the time they got to overtime that Gough was more comfortable than he had been growing to that. And he made a couple big money throws in this game. The dart thirty six yard over the shoulder. One to Brandin cooks was beautiful. He got Gerald Everett going with like a catch and rumble thirty nine yarder. He hit Josh Reynolds for thirty three yarder. They made some big games in the big plays in the passing game. When they needed it. Most at the two throws that Goth made against pressure in overtime. We're we're plays. Like, I don't expect from him. Because those are plays that really he beat. What was the right play? Call two times. I mean, those were the two plays. I remember most from the Rams offense in this game because he has a free rusher coming Adam. And he does a pretty athletic move with to flip his hips to. Get out of the way and get the ball going. I don't think he gets an I think he is a great quarterback. I I'm not saying he's one of the best in the league. But I think he is four years old to especially those. He is such great form and great technique. And he just looks like he has is so well put together as a quarterback if you give him time every time he got a clear path. He was putting it right on the money. I it was seeing him play and seeing Brady play. It was a lot of fun. It helps when it good. It helps his story when Todd Gurley had the game. He had where it was on Gough more than you would have wanted it to be to make those throws down the stretch. What Gurley said I had a sorry game. He something like that too. Rops? He got away with a hold on. Ally apple on a play that should have been a sack. It was rates that what's going on with Todd Gurley and two weeks. If you're telling me that it was just a coach's decision to take out a guy. That's the best player on the team. I would be surprised that there was physical going on that he he was on the bike on the sideline, but he was not playing well and only touch the ball five times may be that. He's not one hundred percent. He ended up plane only four snaps less than then Anderson. He was the lowest graded player on the Rams offense on the entire team by decent amount. He he struggled in that game. And they were clearly running better up the middle, which is more Anderson does versus there's own scheme with they're usually outside running team. And they didn't really try that hard because the saints defense, which you talked up west. And I think played really well overall. I mean, they would they both teams could not run the ball at all like they both had to sort of give up on the run the saints. Couldn't do anything except have Alvin Kamara beat whoever was assigned to them that was their offense. A great team when for the Rams but spinning back to Greg the legs erlin, and you know, on the kicking corner. Let's call tension to that play because that drive in overtime for the Rams they got they got the interception from breeze when they got pressure on Brees led to the turnover. The great field position. They don't move the ball much. I think they got maybe fifteen yards. They got a first down and maybe a little bit more in that range. And that is exactly fifteen years. Nice. They. It was a no brainer to attempt to feel goal in the dome. But it also was highly risky because if Greg the leg doesn't get done there. The Sates are set up at midfield all leaning field goal. So the season is really on the line and two people to credit Johnny Hecker. It was a low snap that he handled and then Greg's erlin. This does not the fact that Jared Goff. And I know he's the quarterback. And I just said he's a great quarterback. All that that that he's the one they're talking to right after the game and then at the podium with Terry Bradshaw in the locker room after the game. They have all these Jubran up on the states, whereas exellent Greg's our line drilled. A fifty seven yard field goal to put his team into the Super Bowl that had fifteen yards to spare. And nobody was even really talking about it. But interviewing Cody parkey misses a field goal. And he's the biggest villain in the world. And he goes on the today show, and he gets fired and all that why don't the kickers. More love when they do. This is the equivalent of making an incredible like a helmet catch or something drilling. A field goal. Like at those steaks. I don't understand where Greg the leg isn't a legend right now. I'm going gonna retire number. The Rams are why should go ahead. I don't wanna shake you to your very core here, but Justin Tucker wasn't the best kicker in the NFL season. It was Greg's align last year you said the two thousand seventeen season Greg's get injured at the end of the year. What have broken the points record because he was phenomenal. I mean, that's one of the great kicks. We needed the NBC graphic which says good from whatever because that would kicks it felt like it. We've been good from seventy two and saints fans who probably aren't really listening to this podcast. I hate to break Garrett Hartley. No longer as the greatest kick in Superdome history. That has the greatest kick. Wow. That really Greg. That was savage was that good? Seven earn heel on the great kick. But will your buddy Adam think now, he's definitely Greg's he'll turn on the saints. Like them since they won the best. A lot of things something happened. Okay. What did happen there? This is like the the the legend of me and spice wreck in Vegas. You guys. There's something more to the story will that's what me with the saints. Will you just basically acknowledged that? There is more to that. Maybe maybe there is. Maybe there isn't good work. Mark don't we work with enough television producers at this point to where I like your kicker argument that if someone's in their ear. It's like, hey, listen, we've got Greg the leg, but we also have Jared Goff right here, which one do you want? They'll take a sip is that right now. But that's what TV producers it'd be as simple as. The Rams are new and just like you're sick of the patriots. Sick of drew Brees. Maybe I'm a little sick. Drew brees. I'm not sick of the rest of the saints Rams are new like McVeigh the podium next. Terry Bradshaw interview line tellers, it's not a bad idea. A fifty seven yard field goal to send his team to the Super Bowl. Put them on television. Poll quote. No way too dangerous Dan's going for the. That's his Oscar clip right there. Dan that quote out there in forty minutes anything else, boys. Yeah. I just wanna say something more about the Rams defense. They have completely shut down the ground attacks of the Cowboys and saints the past two weeks. This defense was mediocre all in since keep ta- leap came back. I really think they've they've upped their level of play. He c- Dobkin sue plane like an all pro again and Dante Fowler for the last month and a half has been really disruptive. At thirty six yards in this game. My my one last thing would just be that McVeigh for all the hype that he's got in delivered in such a big moment. Not not just the field goal, but feel chain which is something like the coaches giving his team to change the game. I mean, that's a coaching inn bones. Obviously, Jim Fassel their special teams, Gordon, but also the play call on that beautiful throw that Gough made where he's creating a mismatch between Josh Reynolds into. Mario davis. That's a coaching play. That's a coaching win and the other one that stands out in the fourth quarter. He decides to burn a timeout pretty early in the game to take a timeout on third and four and what does he set up a thirty nine yard play to Gerald Everett. The absolutely beat him. I mean, there were a lot of moments where McVeigh just kind of one and delivered on all the hype also shut out to Lakisha. Oh, yeah. More. I feel I really do. I'm bummed for saints fans because they. Robbed. But Lakisha like got up early this morning. She was so excited. She left early to go to a bar and get the table because she said this is the biggest game of my life. She hadn't been a big die hard football fan for the greatest show on her fears like she was she was on cloud nine entering this game. So nervous and excited and to see her reaction the Rams one. I'm sure you re tweeted west, but if you if you haven't seen it, I also re tweeted Lakisha reaction immediately after the game that was really nice to see because she's such a rare fan in the sense that she lived in Saint Louis moves to LA and the team follows her the people left behind and say Louis, probably a little more conflicted. Seeing STAN Kroenke on that podium instead of Greg's Elon by the way. Him being celebrated. I can understand the frustration there. But lakisha. This is a special team for. Is credit? We were up here doing the sky hit in the middle of the fourth quarter. And I started to pick up for the first time that west was rooting for the Rams, even though he was happy for the Rams rooting for the Rams, even though he locked up the saints, and the lockup and Titian was down to that the love of his life mattered more to him than that also got a deal with her all week long. If they lose forget the lockout here's just to play devil's advocate if Westwood it. Didn't just a a loyal to his woman and just got behind the team he'd be tied with Mark to the Super Bowl. So that's that's a fair criticism. And I think you're setting the bar very low for acceptable like behavior, of course. I mean, she's going to get way more value out of go into the Super Bowl and her team winning. Then I'm gonna get for some block competition on a podcast. Erica were also happy for you. Erica locked up the road dogs. Yeah. We shop. Rickie threes on four now, I think now. A hub. Hey, standout at your event for the right reasons with the black tux dot com. The black tux offers the kind of suits tuxedos styles that would normally be wildly expensive. Did you write this wildly expensive to buy? And you might only wear once with the black tux simply rent them online. So you can blow it out for your big one time event and take your style to the next level with the black Texas free home trion, you could see the fit and feel the quality of your suit months before the event after ordering your suit will arrive fourteen days before your event. In fact, we got internally Ryan Bartlett who works with the podcast division here. Let us know that because of our sponsorship, but the black tux, you guys are eligible if you wanna get a tux. You you have a free tux rental. If you want it, which led me to think would it be funny. If we just like all rented tux and went to the cozy go to some it, and it's like chilled out. Drake's that'd be funny. That'd be cold open for the Twitter show. Right. Ricky, I know your mind take our white, maybe take our lives out for dinner something where we're all just wearing taco tell them either. Like, honey. Anyway to get twenty dollars off your purchase. Visit the black tux dot com and enter code around. That's the black dot com code around for twenty dollars off your purchase the black tux, premium rental, suits and Taxila does delivered. All right. Yes. Rams patriots. Superbowl fifty three a week from Sunday will be there. Of course, a reminder also when we're in Atlanta for the bowl couple days before the big game on Thursday night will be our live show of the city winery in Atlanta tickets still available, but they are running low. I'm hearing I saw Ricky's photos of the city winery, and it seems like a very cool. Good venue. So the info is pinned to our around the NFL Twitter account, and yeah, we here in the tickets are going take very limited. So if you want to be there for second live show, I here in the United States of America hit up around the NFL on Twitter and click that link and reserve your tickets, my significant other chain. Her flight to a day earlier to get there to witness this. So to have you don't f it up you pressure was white. She's sitting there. She's like this is the man that that will sink or float our family financially with his ability to the a broadcaster. And like you feel that energy. She's looking at you. She's like is he going to be the stars. You're gonna come big. Or is he gonna melt under the lights? Are you gonna feel that energy? I mean, when you're married to someone they see you fail so often so consistently that whatever I do at that show dark not going. No, not at all not going to change any impressions at all. It's just like role in get it done. Check the box a nice time onto the next day. Right. I think it's hot. We'll see I think so like seeing her man up there on stage. And I think it's going to be a great night. What else wives like? Why don't you tell me they like hotel rooms? So this is like it's really set up well for you. And this show is why. Love hotel rooms ask any wife. They just love it, Dan, you can read into that. However, you want do I you why are you making phase Erica, I'm just laughing. So funny, so witty and funny and smart. Handsome, and you have the best hair. You're your real piece of work erica's. All right. That's it. All right. Here's the schedule for the week Tuesday Twitter show, Thursday, our next podcast. So we're we're not doing a Wednesday show this week so Thursday podcast, then we're on a plane, so no Sunday podcast. But then a ton of content for you next week. We're going to be doing three shows NFL dot com. Video shows from radio row. In addition to the three podcasts that includes. Yes, the live show from city winery. And of course, our sixth annual post Super Bowl wrap up show from mega trans. I'd argue too many too much Conti many shows that's a nickname for the falcons stadium. The roof the roof opens up by whom not Calvin the actual initial the mega trod. Yeah. I get it fake robot. That's in a movie. Yeah. Not the football player. I was definitely thinking Calvin Johnson. And I just didn't get it. Dr this good time to get out. This is Dan heads the signing off for quite storm the mailman you'll boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. No tears two weeks today. Rookie one way or the other. No tears. Here's here's a joy. Empathy?

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Coach Mike Vrabel, DK Metcalf, And Time Traveling

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Coach Mike Vrabel, DK Metcalf, And Time Traveling

"On today's part of my take we have coach. Mike variable our friend recurring guest coach of the Tennessee. Titans we talk about their improbable run to the AFC championship. Where Tom Brady's GonNa go and much more? We also have decay metcalf in studio to race. Pf T settle their beef once. And for all I think they're best friends now. So that's great. You have a nice like mutually destructive relationship. Yeah and he does it. There's always a smile so it feels good We have Corona Virus Update. We Have Conference Championship. Week on the horizon. Who's back the week Tibo update? I also have an idea that I think's GonNa make us a lot a lot of money boys Liza investing in oil. Nope IT'S A LOTTA MONEY. T-shirts the wave of the future. T. shirts whatever whatever need a t shirt T. shirts T. shirt and more t shirts before we do that. Pardon my take is brought to you by the cash APP. Not only the easiest place to send money to your friends. 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Warriors out there that don't change their clocks. Cars are there microwaves. Are there on your risk. You're ready to. I'm ready to go. It was a really good to wake up and finally know the right time. So Hank should we continue the discussion at all. Should we go back to it? All we were talking before. Hank thinks we've added in our son with the change. We have okay. There's Jeffrey as much sun as yesterday you're awake for more of it. We have an extra hour of sun this afternoon. recording at seven o'clock at night it's still light outside and Yuck And yesterday at seven o'clock it was dark out. So that's an extra hour address on. What were you awake at two o'clock this morning. When it shifted to three o'clock I was not that was spooky. I'll tell you what trying to figure out the time change with the baby was hell on earth for my brain because that was the first. I thought I knew what time was then diabetes understand. No babies don't they just wake up whenever they want So yeah it was. It was tough to figure that out. It's the first time there's really diva if feels felt like time. Put Me in a mental pretzel and I couldn't quite grasp it but we're here. We're we got here. I'm just glad that they don't have like Andy Reid. Coaching football on on days. Like today. Where you just miss like. There's a ghost our would get confused by that. They should really do the clock changes in the middle of the week so that everyone can have one day where they can show up late to everything and be like whoops. Sorry Dude I agree I fucked up. I didn't realize today was the day we change the clock. They should have flava. Flav just like yeah. I'm to the top of big bend. The clock and then he announces when it gets changed on like a random Wednesday afternoon. So I've always thought it'd be very very confusing on days like today if you live inside state that has multiple times on that stay. Indiana I there are out actually. Let's throw it out there. I would love to talk to someone who works in Indianapolis but lives in central time zone. There's gotta be someone out there who commutes the Indianapolis Police we will have you on. Pardon my take and we'll just ask you stupid questions like. How does that work? Eric Brown Eric Hebron does he probably doesn't he probably he probably commutes all the way from Chicago to Indianapolis Every Single Day. So find that person has to exist and I would love you know what. That's definitely a story that because Rick Reilly no longer is on this planet. It would be great. 'cause he would definitely nail that story. That's Rick Reilly Story and he would talk to some old guy who's been doing it for like fifty years commuting across time zones every single day. Well he he could just make it up to yeah we. We'd like to talk to somebody that exists in that exact description of big cat gave. We'll just invent the story and make up and be like this guy's been working his hands to the bone. Where'd you get an extra hour? Is that good or bad for you if you live in the central time zone now we've gone to phone. Wake up and take sickie. We've gone to know you would if you had an hour commute to Indianapolis. Yeah it'd be at work at nine. You'd leave at seven. So that sucks but then you get home. Haven't actually power. There's gotta be someone we Kinda Talk. Yes it would be awful if you hated your family right because then you have an extra hour with your family at the end of the day and you're still up extra early in the morning says double suck edge if you love your family. It's probably sports being on I. Yeah let's talk to that person. We'll talk to that person. Alright so time. Change Conference Championship. Week is finally here. One of the best weeks of the year the best two weeks year right now coming up with March Madness and conference championship week. There was basketball Saturday all Sunday. Everyone's going crazy about the brackets. Who's in WHO's also blind resume season? Yes we have bubble watch. We should actually just do the Joel. Nardi beef right now. So Joe. Leonardi is in a beef with Archie Miller. Who is the head coach of Indiana Archie Miller? I don't even know if joe knows that he's in a beef because he's in his bunker and actually like Joe Outsmart at all of us with the corona virus stuff he is probably the most immune to corona virus. 'cause he seals himself up in that room for a few weeks every year he's he's going to merge out into the daylight like. I am legend on April first and be like I've done it. It was all worth it. We'll have to. We'll have to take cells from from Joel and Hardee's body to figure out how to go forward with the human race yes Archie Miller after losing to Wisconsin on Saturday said when I was in the Atlantic. Ten Joel Nardi was my best friend. Now he's crap on Indiana to get people to watch his sesame street. Show now you can go back in. The trash can where he came from now. I actually don't think they were best friends. He's what he's saying. Is Joanne already sticks for the Little Guy For the little guys now he goes against the you know mid pack lower. Pack of the big conferences like Indiana this year. Yeah calling him sesame street. That's that's sick. Burn though like today your Oscar. The grouch go into your trash can. It's tough to come back from that one if Julian already but this is like the two week span were. Jolan already has superhuman powers. I don't think even Joe doesn't know that he's being trash talked. He probably wouldn't care no I. He seems like kind of guy that's like if they're talking trash about you. That means that you're doing your job right. Yes got haters. Listen when you get into the bracket business. You don't do it to make friends. Yes it's also the week where we get to see the knockoff. Jilin artists and I always feel really bad for those people. I mean Jerry Palm who'd CBS has been trotting out there. He knows like you can just look at his hair and you know he knows because he doesn't even I don't think he even knows that they've made products for hair He just he takes a shower in just walks out of his door. Whatever it looks like. But that's a guy who's got a face of. I'm number two and it's not even a question. Yeah you can't compete with Joey brackets. He designed this. Nobody owns two weeks in a very niche area. Like jewelry does maybe milk hyper around the draft. Even Mel has he has mcshea. Maybe the Cleveland Browns the first week in January when they're going coach shopping but always Pencil Joey brackets and for these two weeks. This is his time to shine. So like there's there's really no point in trying to upstage him. If you're that Jerry Palm Guy Yeah you yeah you have to come in. He basically just comes in he he he does his job and he goes home and just sits he probably eats like a really sad weh. Turkey Sandwich every night in his hotel room being like what's even the point cornflakes water for breakfast. Taking your overtaken. Joey Bracket Joey brackets has got me. Archie. Miller also told him to go back. Go back and it's trash can. I'm trying to find. Jilin already. Has responded he probably again doesn't even know that this has been not lobbed his way. Well that's the thing about about Joey. B.'s he's he might live in a trash can but Oscar. The grouch was very happy and it's trash can and Oscars had Iran of what like forty fifty year ever? So that's exactly what Mr Brackets is trying to do with his life. That's probably not even insulting. No absolutely not absolutely not. So that's going to be also. Jolan already has a weird simmering beef with Bill Walton. Which I can't tell if it's real or not I don't think bill knows if it's real nokia blowing bubbles this weekend Dave Pasch fascinated. Yes and now he's going to get to go to Vegas and take his bike out into the desert and have a great time with the PAC twelve championship. Yeah so when we interviewed Bill Walton. Was that two and a half years ago. Three years ago he was. He struck me as being confused as to whether or not the Statue of Liberty and the Eiffel Tower. That they have in Vegas was actually the real statute but he was. He was amazed by it nonetheless so it doesn't matter if it was real him. That's all that matters shocked and amazed by the way Washington if you looking for longshots Washington and a UNC. Those are the two teams in their conference. You'll think UNC NC Co. Anthony said there were top ten team right now when like a week ago. Yeah I mean in the nation but I think you know his his players. Let him down this year. You CAN'T PUT US on Roy. Williams are courses finally. Put it all together. Even though they've lost like a million terrible close games that they should one. I do want to say. Congratulations to your Wisconsin. Baduel that's my who's back. We'll get to that on my. Who's Belka yeah okay? But the badgers are back pre. Who's back thank you thank you other things. We have to get you before we get to. Who's back the Lakers are in the NBA finals? So congratulations to them. As first reported by Magic Johnson he said Laker nation after this is after the Clippers. Lakers game today leaker nation. After seeing what I saw today from the Lakers defensively and offensively they are going to go to the NBA Finals Stereo. Now they just beat the in this weekend they just beat the what would most people would say are the second and third best team in the League. Beat the box on Friday. And they beat the clippers on Sunday. Who THE CLIPPERS. With all their healthy guys were ten in until that point. I don't understand why we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I don't understand how Lebron James is somehow like at still at the height of his powers at thirty five It's incredible they're very now. Would you say at the Lakers are better without Magic Johnson? Working in the Front Office. Because they've turned it around yes ever since he quit being team president to be fulltime tweeter but he got on and his twitter game has gotten a lot better. I would say the Magic Johnson. Twitter game is better without the Los Angeles Lakers involved in his life. Yeah it was like both sides. It was a win win situation. Lebron was also asked about The possibility playing games in front of no fans. He said that if there are no fans he's not playing so like a little reverse of load management. It's good for him but when the fans take load management he's like no. It's not worth me showing. Oh you didn't even read the whole understand that like there's people that watch at home though he had no. No the whole quote was if there's no fans there's He's not playing and that he's done his research and he doesn't even think the krona virus started in China. China would never start something like that. Did he say he said? I just trust the China's always doing the right thing. Please China get the league pass again in the videos that come out of. Wuhan being completely shut down. Those are all docker that we we tried. We tried to say some. Nice things about the Lakers. Lebron there took us about ninety seconds. Making it is. It is funny because I tried to one on the record I try. It's the exact opposite argument of like you know you. You get all these letters to the editor. And they're like. I took my seven children to go see Lebron. James played basketball saved up for five years to buy nosebleed tickets to be able to afford this and then he sat out for that load manage now. He's now he's not going to show up if the fans aren't there right. Yup Right okay. So speaking of Corona Virus Little Krona Virus Update It seems like it's not going away. That's what it looks like sure L. I still think it's I think it's a bitch I'm GonNa Chug I saw some people that were making their own hand sanitizer. Tito's vodka like Aloe Vera. Okay so I think you stay drunk. Then it's going to kill all the incoming virus and it won't be able to attach yourself. This is alcohol is an anti yeah antiviral. Absolutely that's absolutely the case. The SEC is staving off. I don't know if you saw the map all the teams in the SEC west. There's not been one corona virus so sec defenses absolutely back We also had Plano Buddy Paul Governor Cuomo said in an all time I never take the New York transportation system or any transportation system in the planet had this tip for people who are afraid of the corona virus says if a subway car buses crowded. Try to take the next one and avoid other densely packed places as New York. Tally hits one hundred five kronor fires. The next train is always better. Yeah neck strain you. Just wait and they'll be a next train that will not be as pact. That's how the trains work exactly. There's actually nothing more frustrating than being in a subway station and then you're forced to take the next train because it just keeps going stop. Yes you feel like what the hell what's going on over the the empty train. That's just oh speeds by and you're like what the fuck there I said this somewhat facetiously but thinking about it more. I if you had told me if you told me there's zero percent chance of ever get krona virus if you always go down to the train station and wait for the next train so no matter what happens you see a train. Wait for the next one. I'd probably just take the CORONA VIRUS. That seems like a that. Seems like a fate I would not wish upon my worst enemy taff to wait always in per in perpetuity for the next train. Yeah although it's like you're getting your practice rep in. You're doing like a visualization here. I walk on it. Yeah Yeah exactly. It's like you pick your spot. You're like okay. I know exactly what I'm going to do when it's the real deal when the next train pulls up. I I still think corona viruses little bitch. I'm kind of afraid of it but I still think is a bitch People are reporting that in in closed circles. You're not you're not saying it's a bit. No that will. Those are in private in private Kurds. No longer calling it a bit but I I have considered just intentionally getting this round corona virus because all I know about infectious disease from the movie outbreak. And so I know that it's going to mutate at some point and I want to get the first one that's easy one the easy one and then I'll have all the antibodies in my system right so if you have corona virus sliding DM's let's have a little CV party. Do you feel a little bit To blame for some of the hysteria. Absolutely yeah yeah totally. You've started hysteria in this office. Report one of our colleagues had chrome. No I said it was likely it turns out it was just float. It was a normal cat. Came up to be like. Hey just said the fluids like yeah. I know he definitely didn't have crucified. That was listened. Better safe than star true so I don't know you're better alert. Everyone and have everyone panic. The no-one panic and be ready for. I actually think that this office is one of the safest places in the city because we live with rats and mice. Yeah exactly we are immune to every mouth that Had babies because there's just been I've seen a bunch of baby mice cute. I know I saw one last Sunday so cute so cute kind of want. Maybe we should get like a terrarium or something. We should actually get a big mouse like playhouse and just pull out of food in there and then trap him. I would about a U-TURN on you turn on watch sparsely goal. Dot Com slash. Pmt and you see a bunch of mice running around in the fucking terrarium. I'm totally fine with mice. We can raise him. Yeah you gamble. On the mice mice are very cute rats whereas rats her gross rats are fucking disgusting. But Yeah I back to Cuomo I just love. This is a bigger picture thing. We're in we're in politics season because it's an election year. I just love any politician who tries to give advice in any way to normal people and they just tell on themselves. They haven't been a normal person in a very very long time. Just when you're at the supermarket Try to avoid crowds. Yeah Yeah Yeah when you're at the supermarket buying your fifteen dollars a gallon of milk. Yeah just don't touch anything when you're at the when you're at whole foods getting your extra extra extra virgin olive oil and your your your fulltime. Living Assistant is picking up. Make sure that they wash their hands before they bring it back to the house. Yeah when you're made comes back from the grocery store make sure that he or she takes an entire bio bath for entering the house. Listen when you're handing your check for thousand dollars to the escort service. Make sure that you wear plastic gloves. You're not spreading the disease. Oh think about that. Politicians probably have to wear condoms. This time around. God that sucks. That's why they're the real problem either. Declaring states of emergency everywhere. It's like this is no good. My Dick can't breathe. Oh Fuck when wish that on anyone all right. So let's WHO's back. Then we have coach k. Metcalf COMING UP Hank G would you like to start with your? Who's back sure? I got a couple of the first one go on the corona virus. Talk Masturbation is back. Oh yeah okay. Maybe hey report came back. That masturbation boost your immune system could raise your white blood cell. Count helping you fight off infections. Known this okay. So we're pound off to build up those antibodies fab. The no fat sub reds can have a real problem with that one Yeah big time my other. Whose back is coach killer. Kyrie uh-huh so Kenny Atkinson. Who was many people were saying? Was One of the better coaches last year. Took a young group like really brought them together. Got Them into the playoffs. He got fired yesterday. And people are saying it's Karen K. D. Okay. Well it's not because we're trying to get him on the pod so and also this is but I feel like Kyri in K. D. Have to be on the same page in some way shape or form right pages. Correa Kyrie so Kyri you think it is without a doubt curry was like this. Guy Stinks. Get Him Outta here. Yeah because last year there were such a tight knit group and they were like so much perform so much better than expectations. Who else like what? Where's the Like difference what. Your Hair Scott is paid changed from last year to this year's back that truck up. Yeah I feel like Kyrie. Change Seven head coach and nine NBA. Season so I don't know you only now that Hank you bring up a good point. He definitely evident nine new songs for and then He. He learned some new philosophy like theory every month and then tries to apply that at work and then he comes in and he's like hey coach we gotta let you go. I just finally Realize what Like the Aero Paradise is all about all right. So what you're saying. Is that the new coach for the nets. Whoever that may be needs to become an author and write a book on why you should never fire your coach. Yes exactly just slip it into Kyrie's locker room boom problem solve for at least a couple of months. Yes he needs to have Jordan like Matt Damon same coach and then Kyrie will read it and be like yeah this guy. This guy's right. Yeah the the Malcolm. Glad well theory on why coaches should never be fired. Yes Malcolm glad will explains why Joe Property is actually the best coach in the entire or were you saying the about. Would you say no? I'm saying he's like Matt Damon and could we'll hunting like he reads the book and then just use that to. Yeah Yes yes yes okay. So coach killing Carey is back. That was it was nice of the nets to announce it as mutually parting ways. Because of course you mutually part ways in totally random. Coaching decision. With a month and a half left in the season mutually mutually. They mutually decided. And I think that's still. I believe they're still in it. I don't know about right the second or trying to some of that hockey magic coach mid season the beat the Bulls today. The Nets had twenty eight turnovers cheese and they beat the balls. That's actually. That's that's impressive. People are saying the bullshit get Kenny. Atkinson Scher Jim. Boylan I duNNo. He's still building something. He's building something. I don't know what it is. But he's building something Pfc WHO's your WHO's back. My who's back seven right now. You know they jumped up. My whose back is women. So it is International Women's Day if you're interested international men's days on November Nineteenth. I believe and that interested different than steak and blow job very different. Okay interesting that they made National Woman's Day on the twenty three hours a day. Y'All hey okay. Someone tweeted this. Stealing the patriarch is always always be stealing and so that you know the brands and the corporations are getting you know we talked about. Shell is now she'll now oil's down so you have to wonder. Is there a link between that did did show get to woke and take their eye off the bottom line of their business now? Oil futures are down thirty percents. Yup many people are saying and then you an oil today oils. Huge oil. It would we got. What are you telling telling percent? Aren't you telling us about oil? Brought up oil three hundred well no not with Saudi Arabia. Because they're very good now. What I'm trying to get at is I'm getting paid by. Nbs got it He's like the Mike Bloomberg in the Middle East and so he's paying me to say that Saudi Arabia's good night's either who's back the week is USA rugby. They beat Fiji Great. Yeah so I didn't issues Fiji finished first place in the world last year. And what have we been achieved today? Elimination round so we lost so surplus. We're playing for fifth but but we beat the man. We beat former number one team in the world got us that technically means that we're kind of disaster. They likes load management situation for them. Okay my next week is on. Espn plus fucking Shit. Yeah so I don't know if you guys bought the May fight on a Saturday night. Dean juice check. That was a great fight. Her head looked like it exploded. A manning child made with Mars attacks made with me taking a picture of her head on my TV. Did look like Joe Buck Picture. But that's what her forehead looked like. Just in the natural environment of it was. It was awesome fight though and then the final fight sucked and I told everybody by. That's that's my bad. That's on me like style bender but espn plus was absolutely atrocious. It kept bleaching out every five seconds was all the conference game all the random conference games yet to watch on there. They put West Virginia. Baylor on there. That's awful. Yeah as bad planning so. I don't know you can get. Can I get a refund for that? It was very bad especially considering paid like seventy nine dollars. I can't imagine working for a company that had any technical issues on pay per views. Never not to happen all right. My whose back is we looted to it. But the badgers. They're all the way back number one in the big ten tournament. They won the share of the big ten share so equal parts and then there are the number one seed so they got all the tiebreaker so who they split it with fifty fifty we know Michigan Satan Maryland but I leave. I'm being nice to Maryland because I know Scott. Van Pelt gets very upset when you say anything bad about Maryland and he likes to point out that Marilyn or Wisconsin had to play twice therefore helping their schedule and just completely ignoring the fact that Maryland played northwestern twice. But that's neither here nor there Wisconsin. Back I actually SA- I think two weeks ago sniffing around it I. I'm fully believing in this team so I fully believe in this. I can't believe in them. So here's what here's the game plan. We are now that I fully believe we are going to probably lose on Friday. Which is the first first game for them in the big ten turn. You'd probably rather lose that right right right exactly. So we're GONNA lose so that then gives me a little pause and then I'm like but you know what now arrested focused. Everything's in front of us. They I WANNA say they're going to the sweet sixteen but I also could see. Just a heartbreaking second round loss. I don't know either way all the way in I could see final four all the way I mean I took a future hundred one. No big deal basically. You're going to retire. If they win the National Championship. I watch well. I'll be honest with a cat so good chance do this. Here's Wisconsin team. You were saying in the past that that team that that made it so far. That lost Duke That was the one chance that Wisconsin Herat's this year it's so wide open there. No great teams. Kansas is pretty great beside so Kansas. But yeah they've gotten zag but they've never been no final four right so you don't know. They're not battle-tested Wisconsin. This could be a year in. If it's GONNA be a year it would be like this and there's no dominant. Hey Pf T. I know you love these story lines. You ready for one Joe Borough won a National Championship College National Championship. Where did he go to college before he went to? Lsu Ohio State Mike Potter badgers very good player. Where did he go to college before he went to the National Championship? Which is where Wisconsin will end up. Lsu NOPE Ohio State Duke who know how State Yeah State so little. Start drawing some lines. Okay Pinson's plane out of his mind hasn't hit anybody in the Dick and like a week. We one on Saturday against Indiana in Indiana. And they weren't even calling charges for Brad Davison. That's when you know Wisconsin's got it rolling. there were two or three times where they blatantly didn't give buzz. Cut Brad the charge that he should always. He has a birthright for that charge. Right Lebron beating you. He's not hitting his mid-range Jumpers are steph curry not beating you when his wife is making weird cooking videos when they're going to games when he's holding her in a a winery with a half Chubb. That was a great picture wasn't as hot picture but either way people. I know that people get mad whenever the badgers do well as people were coming at me on Saturday after they won't share the big ten title. I gotta say it again. A share the big ten title. Don't worry you'll have your chance to sit down my throat and watch my dead body on livestream at some point in March so just hold on tight. It always happens right. Hank it always happens. It's looking like this year. Could be an elite eight or final four four should. I just wanted to be in the east so that we can watch them at Madison Square Garden Okay let's get to our interviews coach for able and then we have decay metcalf for do that. Outback outback is now available through door. Dash that means juicy stakes a big fried blooming onion and other favorites can now be delivered anywhere like literally anywhere. This is perfect for March madness. Outback is now available through door dash. That's right. Great Steakhouse Flavor. Without having to put on pants you love it. 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Next time you're hungry log onto door dash out back door dash outback now smash that order button and get straight stakes now on Jordache with outback. Okay here he is. Coach Migrate Mu. Okay we now welcome on recurring guests and very good friend of the program. It is coach. I call him coach. It's like Ray Braves. He gets mad when I call them. Chorus like manning is like congrats man. What a career unbelievable phenomenal. He's like thank you coach and I'm like Eli. They cut the bullshit I can. We just go with raves. He goes yes sir. Utilize story are you. Are You mad at? Eli At all about the Super Bowl. No I mean. That's that's sports team got better. You know. That's that's a great example of a team. That was a wild card. That played his very tight. End The year last game And they improved to their credit. They were playing football at the end of the year. That's a it's a great message to not only my team but a lot of people see famer and I don't. I don't vote for hall of fame but I mean I try not to focus on hall of fame and this and that he the guy played really well in big games. Okay so he is or isn't I? They played very well in big games. So yes if you guys got the vote. Would you vote? Illicit was not the whole very good and he was very go. Hide behind those. You want me to go. Rod Dog. Don't do wall blow braves all right. You're committed to the game by the one I'm issue. That's it so you wish talking about the giants. Your team obviously didn't always super bowl but there was a little bit of that like peaking at the right time last year. Are you were you after the season over? Could you have a moment where you're like man? That was really good like we was and I tried to tell our team that I think they were frustrated and everybody was disappointed that we weren't going to be able to play for a championship but I was proud of the way that they continue to improve from where we were the early part of the season and we did we were planning our best football late But I think they also realize that and everybody did that. That's a tough road to go down. Four Straight Road Playoff Games as essentially what we did was Houston New England Baltimore Kansas City. And that's not the way that's not the recipe to to win a championship. We're going to play well enough during the season to be able to host some of those games. Yeah so during the of that playoff. Run you guys play against new. England does a great game before the game. You played was catch me if you can get clipped as a motivational so always enjoy that movie What Frank Abergnail Junior? And the dad you know is in debt. And he needs to get alone. He pulls his son up in his Cadillac. And during these nice suits and young. Frank doesn't understand what they're doing. His Dad's like we're going to act like we have money in the bank manager is. GonNa walk out here. And he's going to open the door for us and frank still figuring all this out and then he says you know why the Yankees always win. He said because they have Mickey Mantle. He Says No. Because everybody's always staring at the pinstripes and I kinda like it just a nice message to be like. There's going to be when we get there and we got on the field. There's going to be six banners. Say World Champion. Boom boom boom. Like that's not gonNA determine. The game was my only point was like let's not step the banners and worry about what they've done we we gotta go try to compete with them hoosiers measuring the hoop no same difference. Ten feet thing Ali getting on ten feet. All-time moment go call my dad. Yeah Dry right up. You probably knew all the tricks that bell check was going to pull out like putting the The giant thermometers in the hallways. Let you know that. It's actually like ten degrees colder than you think. It is just keeping everybody updated on the weather report. Yeah all right. So let's talk about the tricks when you guys when you basically became a time traveller in that game. How long had you known that? That loophole was there for a while. It's just unfortunate that we were never in a situation to use it. You have to be ahead in the fourth quarter right in that situation with the clock running outside of five minutes in whatever the League chooses to do we're going to play by the rules that they give us and and that was available to us. We're you when you like saw the situation and I click like oh here we go like. I'm about to time travel. Well I think you try to you know. I think what you try to do is try to anticipate what the situations in the game can be. You are excited. Don't be coachspeak. We'll know I'm just trying to spur moment. It's like okay depending on what happens here. Like are we gonna go for it you hit and then we had a penalty so it was like extorted Rainbow Road Shortcut. You just jumped past like you know half the track right it was. It's it's something that we felt like. It helped us win the game. As coach speak is I could possibly be. Whoever was on the sideline we would've executed that situation in that moment though as it was happening as your time traveling. We're you trying hard not to smile. Because he knew how cool it was no. I think that I've realized I've gotten good at being able to vomit puke in my mouth about showing when bad things happen so I try to do the same thing when good things happen is just try to stay. Keep my composure. Okay so after the game after that game you had some fun with Tom. Brady's Hyenas Video Do you think that's going to hurt your recruitment of him? I thought that was actually a great complement to our football team. Nice because that's who I think we WANNA be is. Is these animals that that hunt and travel in packs are competitive vicious? And I think that's how we Tried to approach our game preparation. Okay so and then afterwards in the in the hallway. You and Tom shared a moment. I read that and then afterwards so I think you were asked. And you're like we're gonNA keep that between so now that you're here with his family. I'm there with my family and the kids and the same thing. We think we talked about the the game knows about kids. There's Tho- those conversations haven't come up relationship with a lot of guys that still play because very few tomatoes grown locally is time he we have whole foods whole foods in Nashville. Okay well I got loud music for you. I don't WanNa get you into one of these tampering situation because I know the league. They monitor this stuff. They pay attention getting me into anything ever. Look question. Here's the thing. Hank legally changed his name to Tom Brady yesterday. So if you recruit Tom Brady to come play for you. What would you say to Tom? What's Hank did? He just moves the camera back and forth a little bit Tom. Tom Tom Brady his. Name's Tom Brace. If you're on social media team for the Titan. Tom Brady wants to work for you. What would you say to Tom? We have twitter nate I. Yeah he's been a longtime fan. We've talked to him. He was with the rams and now the The with you guys so talk them pitched pitch Tom Brady over there. I haven't fold what he does. I mean I mike. My new guy is Is Dana Right? You're getting are they really doing it? I'm going to be bridesmaid. I think so. I'd have to carry like do some be not sure or something that room and welcome now. So what are you doing on Saturday? At Denny's he's in Las Vegas this Saturday. I'll be at the combine. Oh Shit like what? Are you actually combine? Because we're we're I love the interviews. I love being able to sit down. I try to pretend like I'm you guys and just grill people and grow players and just misdirection. And what's what's the GO-TO interview question. Change don't like write it down. I don't write the questions down on a notepad down there either way Whatever they say I try to follow up. I have don't defend what you have racial Derrick Henry They're really getting Derek. Heather gay marriage made in heaven literally added Denny's Denny's look like they're in love and they're having fun definitely fun question though. Give us one just one. Maybe one that you use to use you. Don't use anymore. We walk in. We're in our sweats. Hey coach I don't look in the. I WANNA give you handshake Red Flowers. Your hood down. You know I mean contact right. Sit Up and it's just. They got to try to find a way to get us to to want to go and watch more tape and sometimes are they engaging You know one player Said said what's a Best part of your game and he goes as the next time you say word. Aggressiveness saved a little louder than that was. That was actually a differentiating trick. Though whispering than the person has to say what the Beta no it was like are you. Yeah I never really understood that because it's supposed to make you and control the situation if they have to lean in to hear your whisper their voice to come to. You should speak with your. I think the end I liked seeing the players in Iraq. I like seeing how they operate when at a group You know they travel everywhere for four five days and I always ask them like. What's what's the guy in front. Wha- what's his name? I don't know if you've been with them for three days. He's been right in front of you and every line you've gone to and you don't know his name like we're kind of teammate. Who was the guy behind you? What's his name right? That's a good one. How many how many light posts are there in New York City Manhattan Island Manhattan Light Post? Yeah there's no one thousand nine thousand okay. That's actually that's a good guess. I exactly how much do you look at hand size? Never kicker no fit size for those soccer shoes if it gets over fourteen. They don't make them. They don't make them that big of a foot. They won't be able to wear the soccer cleats you had. This is a conversation. 'cause you'd never draft a kicker because you hate kickers. Your kicker didn't attempt to feel goal for like no. That's why we just did red zone all week. We just practiced red zone so that we would just go down there and we knew we were going to be able to score. Ever have to kick right. That's revolutionary was that actually part of your thoughts are actually been you know we're going to try to adopt a proposal for the XFL. We're just GONNA do the the two that I liked and put it on the three where you'll be like no other ten you can put you can take it. Though we're going to broaden cody parkey. Did you have a moment where you're like? So what happened there? No just Try to evaluate what his confidence level was and he did a nice job for us and you know we did. We went through some turbulent waters with with the kicking game and You know it's something that that will have to certainly improve on. You need An extra camp leg. Yeah we are. We were looking for You know I don't know if you saw the film. I did it identify apologize. I've heard about it but I think sometimes with those glasses. I think it can throw off. They're not polarized or that sports lands kick glasses. I'll get the visor going. Yeah it'll work. It'll work if you need can't blake. I'm deadly accurate from thirty five yards. Just I'm serious. If you need me come out there for you. What was your sports background? So I played rugby. I played a little bit of football played. Soccer Baseball and rugby was college high school. I played rugby and college and then for about ten years in jail for the new team with evidence. I can remember the owner. He's GonNa try so they would have these clubs and they basically would have tournaments for reasons to bring like forty kegs to the fields and they would just I mean they would come from all over the place and come to Columbus not a Frat Efrat not a Frat but it was a rugby Just come and they would beat the shit out of each other for two days and then just chugged beers and hug each other. After the game sports are big trophy in college was the Golden Keg is actually keg that we in spray painted golden so again. Not a friend of Frank. Capra's how jober borough was there. No Joey was I was gone. I was in Houston. Will you got to do a press conference like I never would have let him out the door you I mean that's how it goes. I mean the guy in front of me drafted sixteenth or whatever. Yeah but it's going pretty good when the backup said at your school or you know national champions at other places. State thing How would you go about tackling derrick? Henry question probably gang. Tackle would probably be the best way that I would hope for right. And I'm going to rephrase that you and Derrick Henry one on one logo higher than the kneecaps. Could you hit them? Could you take him down right now? If he wasn't like looking at me I could look kids deer and that just didn't get hurt in a in a practice drill this year hurt. Yeah no not injured hurt no you. Didn't I thought you had a practice drill? And you've got a little banged up. Oh I might have cut my hand punching at the ball. I hit his face mask. No that's beget. You want to ask him about his penis or should I you do it so do you still have your penis. I do last time. I checked before I came. I use the restroom after the interview. Okay so what was that about so first of all. Why was that? Because I didn't want to go on the podcast. I didn't want to have Taylor. And will basically own me on their podcast. I wanted to go on there. I wanted and they were having so much fun. Doing this thing the buses cool and went on and just didn't WanNa sit on there and just be boring. I just was like whatever. I'll answer all their questions and Taylor was laughing. Taylor's in a good mood than that. I'm in a good mood so it just Kinda came to. That is a little offered that you're a bigger fan of pardon my take than bustling with the boys You guys are original. You know what I mean. You guys are kind of like the. Oh Jeez so. I think that There there they would have the bus here they. They actually have driven the bus or ship the bus to accept when they do they do. I'm like well. This is a great deal man. You got to get an investor. You know no matter how bad this thing does. You're always gonNA write money being thrown at. She'll the answer is it is a little awkward because you obviously love us more than you love your own player. No no I just think that these guys eventually. They'll they'll they'll surpass you guys. You guys get lazy guys and be tired. You're stuck aware motivated patchy guy. That's that's the funniest thing he said on this show that is so. That's the story that you came in to tell them this show to make us laugh. What about your Pinky? Let's do your pinky next year. Let's do it right now. If you if you win the Super Bowl you cut off the tip your pinky which which which crooked wanted you look at that? See that's inter- you're right handed. I'm guessing right. How'd you know okay? Just because you're not a free guest. Not as sort of not a witch gnarly fingers. How about yeah the Left One? You're left Pinkie is all fucked up anyway. Just the tip just to see how it feels. Just start out. You're on my hair. Yeah just from the nail down the top of the nail down on the lesson. You got that. That's easy at your right now. That one that's the one I want to be. I'll even make like a little finger guillotine for you you know. They measure when they measure the hand size. They'll be like right Pinky de formation and they announced that really the Big Tan. Han Ten left hand. Pinky this formation nine and seven eighths. Wow that's Kinda cool. Yeah so visual. Do you think the insider info. Yeah that is you think they should actually measure tip of the thumb to like tip of the Middle Finger. Like I don't even know where they measure. I have no idea I just try to watch the tape. Does it matter at all because we were having this debate that it gets overblown by media but at the end of the day. I would imagine if you're sitting there evaluating guy you'd prefer them to have his always GonNa rain. The tape is always GonNa win out and then there's a lot of things that go into it okay. What about the mustache? Why did you shave the mustaches? Yeah 'cause you I just felt like it was time I just jen hated it. You know it just. It really looked br. It was brutal after a while as somebody. That can't grow money Fisher. I just you. You need to shave. Oh you looked awesome now. It was cool magnum. Pi Do you think you're a little bit of a Harto for doing all these Pre-game workouts no come with the camera. And make sure you get planking. Are you know that's not not true? It was no big deal for the last six five years that I actually worked out before the game when I ran on the field or did pushups on silence then all of a sudden. I don't run because my Achilles is going to blow out the back of my leg so we do this ridiculous workout just to do something and it gets blown out of proportion guy wants to try to outflank me and do all this other stuff. I was just working out before. Xfl You you thought that the camera is weren't on you and NFL GAME. You haven't seen xfl so no. The problem is is like we're going to have to do like good form. The the camera would be like right here. And I'm like this is ridiculous. Can you guys a digital game? Did you actually ask the cameras to go somewhere else? Yeah you get a different filter on their. Yeah you get it from the top so skinny I want. Everyone learns guys skinny elbows. Yeah so where do you love it? You love that attention. You guys are in front of a camera your entire life. I would think that you love it a little bit. You are football guy through and through. I know that you're actually just doing it because you do it. If there were cameras there if there was no one there harden lot right it feels. It feels good sweat sometimes before a game like I have done it the entire coaching career. Ohio State Houston Tennessee. Did urban ever come over. And just like kick your hand out like Dollar man like sorry he seems like that kind of villain. No I learned. I learned a lot. I learned a lot from urban. I did I learned a lot in the time that I was at Ohio state. You think he's GonNa Coach again. I don't think so. I think he's enjoyed his family. I think he enjoys the TV but he loves coaching though sure. He's very successful at what he does. He does He. I don't know it feels like the first year that he was on. Tv He being on TV. He wanted. Yeah I did. It felt like he was on this year. Yeah but you. He's GonNa Coach because this thing have to move if I move whatever you want. You're the boss you're coach. You are coach. What was what was it about. Still Rapes in the middle of the season. You're like you know what the answer to all my problems is Ryan Tannehill You know there was the we all needed to play better. We need a coach better and play better And it was a move that I thought was best for the team. And in the best interest in Ryan took advantage of his opportunity. It was crazy when you guys were such a big story. I feel like of the season. And how you've finished the season. I went in the playoffs do you. Are you worried at all? Though in the off season we're talking about this at the beginning having that momentum. Carryover IT WON'T I. I don't think confident and with this was no. This was the same message that I gave our team. That the confidence that we play with and practice with carryover but the momentum has to build throughout the week you have to have a good practice on. Wednesday Thursday Friday. Tighten things up. And it's got you know. I mean the momentum during football games you can't just say Oh we're just going to start off hot. It will have a fast start. And if we don't have a fast start then you know then we just can't everything but the confidence that you play with like you know what? I'm trying to relate something athletically that you may or may not have done this. Maybe maybe when you're ripping hotdogs right yeah good point and I'm like the first run was like okay. I was coming out with cuts. Yeah make those cuts and the the hot dogs are going down easy. You're building confidence in momentum and the next time you do it you got to build that same momentum on Okay I understand it and I said during the week do you have? I know because Dentin. Lsu they do like tell the truth. Monday no repeat Tuesday. Yeah turnover wins. They'd have like different Wednesday Thursday Friday. Ooh That's how Saturday without just Kinda was you know when you play on Thursday. You back up the schedule so Monday night football you know. Thursday's a Wednesday Fridays at Thursday Saturdays Wednesday. You always try to set your. You just blew my mind on Monday Wednesdays or for the boys. Yeah you which they are for the voice. Now that you've confused us all it would always be Saturdays. She got play more games on Saturdays. One we play noon Sunday. Yeah that's true. It's weird that it's noon for you. It's great yeah I think. Central Central Time is the best time no question last question. 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You know you have a plan for everything working through that. We're talking to the right guys. We're trying to formulate our protocol for next year. We're building put our guys in the best place to win on Sundays. That's all you gotta do. As a coach it's perfect guy with the right mindset to compete and if a there's a fine line between having fun and then reverting back coach. I try to think that it's an art back into it. All set all right the include for able very brave. Thank you gotta go game this year. Come on down. Bring it podcast. Let go one on one verse bussing. And here's might be planning nationalist. Should bears are plan? We Drank Nashville dry. Last I heard Arthur told me Arthur showed videos. They drank the beer off abroad with that. Was when the bears were like eight one and they were NATO STRODE. Yeah. Here's like fifty five twenty one. We were returning every Interception for a touchdown and then it just didn't sustain him we just fucking cratered. 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I didn't tag anybody. It was started by the person who runs the Barstool instagram account. They showed me demonstrating the proper. Get off technique in forty are dash. I actually went back and watch some film and you end the forty. You're like point zero zero four yards. Split was not great like the start. I feel like you could have done better on and so I was demonstrating that good. Starting technique to Stephen Shea works in officer and they tag and they said I think PFC could be decay in a race. I had no part in that tagging but then you responded and when I got brought into I had I had to finish. It responded with this. You know you can say that when you know you you're GONNA lose right. You're not losing anything okay. So what was your time? We all know your three cone. Drill was terrible. Like the worst of all time What was your forty time though I think my forty dollars I mean. Just look it up in the arguments. Find you in the record book coming in as like like going to do. But you're pushing me towards. Pfc here you got. Hey what do you want to do? You just forty my three calls like what who's objectively like the worse thirty cone video. No I did not get hurt three times. Why did you change something? Like the longest cuts. Your judgement is not good with three times. I came off You know a great performance at the so. I was trying to three four three three. That's good and would you say your your vertical leap was fourteen inches. Forty and a half of forty. I always get that confused if you say fourteen okay. That's pretty high for mine is twenty five and half. We'll know US before I've talked to smaller anywhere ten nine. I don't have a ping pong ball at one point back in high school. No one saw no one saw it just me but I feel like a twenty five and a half inch vertical leap from me. Proportionally is better than a forty inch. Vertical leap from you. Because you're already so talk proportionately what what do you mean? It's like a like a mini bridge. That one now that one how one felt like it was a little bit of body shaming. Yeah we don't do in two thousand twenty you're ripped you got APPs. Pfc It's winter. Season could get ripped if he wanted to but he doesn't want drake light sixty degrees now. He doesn't want to. He doesn't WANNA show people up so they would actually be a bad. Look for me if I if I was jacked up. It's like you can't have it all you know. He got this really attractive. Dude has enormous Cecil podcast from a weight land and he's able to finish three hundred fifty pounds. It's not fair somebody's lot it's kind of like your skill. Set your super fast. You're super athletic. You can't actually like run in different directions besides straight ahead. If you could do it all that would be unfair. That's kind of what he can do everything not very well so I can't do anything elite so it's kind of like the perfect of all trades master. Nuns your pot of Gumbo right. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA run. That's pretty Komo's delicious trump at all. Koto everywhere. That's coach. Oh actually try to recruit you know. Young Oh he was he was the OC DC lsu coming out. Yeah so that would have been weird if he tried to. Recruit you for like defensive line is like a twelve year olds. That would have been funny though. Were you recruited to only play wide receiver? Coach that try to get you switch of be like a linebacker knows others who. I wasn't always become uh school. Yeah I was like six six one one eighty five. Did you have one of those moments? I always find it curious with pro athletes like one day. You just woke up. And you're like hey now. I'm five inches taller a lot bigger stronger. After I broke my foot in College I was in the gym twice a day so I grew massively. I broke my fatter every time. Why is that why you mix if I have a Jones fracture in my left for my plan foot zones for it's tough it's like one of the hardest injuries come back every morning? I wake up. I'm like maybe this is the day I woke up and I'm just a little taller a little bit more in shape but you still waco you still wake up bill like the. Yeah but it hasn't happened yet but knows but in the late you don't you don't you think it's too late now. We give up absolutely science way. Science works these days. You never know what can it may be too late. Okay so just some highlights from the back and forth that you and I had 'cause you had some good lines the mini fridge line. I admit that was good although I feel like a mini fridge. That's a pretty cool thing to look like. Who doesn't like many fridges? Look at that many right there. That's a cute mini job. Yeah it's very cute. I mean just like they are though it's orbs though is like they're all right so you said it's easy to say that you can beat me when you know that you're slow. You said that to me I said. Ask A girl how slow I am then. I'd say when I say what I say when you saw the Unicorn Trash Talk Emoji. Were you like man this guy? He's he means business. No I don't look at emojis. Okay scary tactics. She said you slow and you fit. The stereotype was I don't understand. I don't know the record to their young children in this room right now. It's a little weird but yeah that's okay acceptably fast. Yeah that belief First one last one to leave type guy the first one and the first one to lean if you know what I mean all right and I said that's that's not the only thing that she says that fit so some were to get I don't make me out of three contractor this. I've been on the TB twelve method. I told you that one And then after that and then after that you said hang on screen scrolling passing. I'm not actually scrolling. Is His memory is a little blurb on. I'm getting to a diene me and was like hey like I. No you know we're we're to competitors you know. None of us are going to quit the truth. I was also in your the I. I told her I off the record. I was because I knew you weren't gonNA stop. I wasn't going to stop doing these interviews talking Shit with competitive out. Why truth them? By what. Make the other person. My phone's run out of batteries. And then you said Dan you screen-grabbed charge a quick. Then you screen-grabbed that and you put that out there so I was like okay. Let's say I'm trying to call for a truce? I think. Colfer true sounds uncalled for truth and then I said he does get realize yeah so then he replied with FOB IOS homeless cousin which you don't understand is a huge compliment to me is probably the hottest person to ever live right male or female version. I know that's he's got the same genes. Yeah homeless cousins. Like you look a lot like you. That's good no. Yeah No. That's good that was you kind of screwed yourself on that one. What else finish. Basically it just it devolved into me saying that. You can't turn that you like. Mike said West Coast Mike Wallace thank. That wasn't a good one. We ought Mike Wallace he can. He ran nine route. That was it I mean but he was successful in the League are you. Do you actually practice other routes? Have they gotten that party? Playbook for you Watch on the film. I I do run curls. You do yeah okay. You put your blinker on when you're trying to about curl what's your favorite nongo route to run combat straight line. That's weird because you weren't very good at them on the instagram battle there. Yeah Yeah here you go gotcha. Oh now I sound so that's fine. I want corona virus communities. This is GONNA end up being a beef. Yes Seattle Jews come see. I don't know I haven't been Seattle since the off season started traveling around us. That second round you guys lost in the second round me because I wanted you to beat the packers Okay so I think you're just never gonNA fully get along but have a mutual respect. Oh yeah the trash. Talking Game is fair to say athlete. You're pretty good trash-talker. Yeah for an athlete for an athlete. And if we're going off your three cone drill I don't know if we can even say athlete dime just being. I'm stating facts. Right in like Fairfax I WANNA. I WanNa hear is talking. You'RE GONNA be new to you. Said Yeah that part that if we watch your actually creates listen. I know you can't hurt something that I know and say openly so I actually just ate ice cream no more than an hour ago so you are an athlete scoop for the most. I. I don't know probably about three. Four bowl is useless. Four three four three four the air force or for it which means five if you actually go buy real map. Okay so I found. I found the actual blood. That's got the rest of it. So here's more highlights. Okay you said what's more embarrassing not making the XFL are being named. You brought my dead brother into it. That's one I replied with. It's only freaked up so I said kids here if only I kicked it straight as you run. So Br brought it back to that whole turning survivors. Homeless cousin wants to call a truce. And that's when you posted this screen. Grab truce's hurt you. It's called his true screengrabs. Whatever being the first call a truce definitely takes points away from you so I said I would like to propose a truce as you. Neither one of us will back down to all creditors competing on twitter. That's bad I think you said probably the same thing. No Dude on twitter. He was like Medicare going back and forth. We'll see a law. He can laugh at the truce and then I was like we'll see how long you can last pops like I'm going to need some biogra- I yeah I do they pop so that makes kind of like a sign of call ups. That's right then we got into a Gif off you posted a gift of yourself or do you call Jeff. I don't know I don't know what it's called and then I hit you back with a gift of myself and he said no free. Add Sindbad some supplements and so You said Ness quicksand. Dad Bod`ed some supplements again talking about Dad. Bod that I talked about the packers and how they beat you know to me or is it okay to say. Don't make me bring up the three cone drill again Yeah and then you said it. Taliban. What's Your Secondary Football League. I said if I cared about the underwear Olympics that have nothing to do with the real game. I would just watch your combine tape boom. That was good those crying faces. And you're like let's see that vert cry face Emoji Crash Emoji and then you kind of backed out now at the end. You know that you like you're the one that pretty much tapped out. You said you are welcome. We should do this again sometime. Pleased and we're doing against him. You left some stuff out because our. Here's here's my point. Okay what would it was it was? It was between me and you trash talking. Then you WANNA bring my quarterback in my secondary. You're running out of stuff to talk about. That's true identity. Not Turning a quick. Does it yeah I mean I could? I like to compare it to an aircraft carrier so I could get go your powerful and you go straight and then you you turn by degrees of like one percent. Tell everyone they're like hey tomorrow. We'RE GONNA turn. And then they stay. Turn the aircraft carriers. There's another little tiny joke and they start cranking the buttons and those in this forty yard dash for race that we're doing or am I allowed to have a curve in the track or a corner to go around there curve in the regular forty or yeah. There's a lot to the neutral arbiter. We've got some sort of a shuttle run. Yeah that's whatever you want right. I mean I'm fascinated. I know I'M GONNA be too so like okay. Well you can go see. Let's let's see. Let's go find out all right so we decay just got back in from a race a beach you buy. What six hundred seventy dollars? When you when the evidence comes out then I'll let you saw you know. Yeah Big Cat as a neutral party. What did you see happen out there? I mean you technically one yeah who? Pf did he won. How did he? I'm I'm now the I am now the third wheel in a budding love relationship. That's going on between the two of you so I'm just GonNa let you guys hash it out clearly enjoying each other's company a lot running up and down hallways and most important part is big catcher said technically. Pf T. One segment. He did he. He said Racer going then he beat you down. The Hallway was talking to me. Like tell me are. We're going to go around and see that part. All I know is that there's no. Footballs chess match. When you up against a good cornerback you're gonNA against Jalen Ramsey. And he's like Hey I'm GonNa do press coverage on you right now and then he doesn't like hey. He cheated because he lied to me about what he was going to do. Are you like he? Beat me are playing football. Are we racing? We're raise don't don't don't know mixed sports. Were here Bro. Race and I pulled my hamstring and so probably never be able to race ever again. I would love to do it again. I would love to know all right when when you've had it or gets this. Don't don't cut anything else. He's sitting right there hank boy. Yeah don't cut anything up. I'm telling you I would love to do it again. I wish I could do it right now. I'M GONNA cut anything I liked again but unfortunately my hamstring is clear off the bone. I'm not worrying. You gotta Bro Okay. Well thank you for coming in. Thank you for losing to. Pfc In that race. Better luck. Next time I don't know how to end this kind of awkward free like better luck next time right. I mean you guys are clearly best friends now so enjoy that. At least you have that. What's weird is now. I am going to be rooting like really hard for you because I if you win a Super Bowl Mike. I beat that rate. Yes crazy I could be doing that. You guys came as enemies and leftist friends. That's kind of how it goes right. 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Yeah we'll put it out on our twitter account later on today Fucking roasted him rose poke. He probably GonNa Retire. If I had to. Guess Yeah I hope I got a call from Pete Carroll to try out tomorrow or lease shirtless to or at least to be his like you know use that you can get him back into the right mindset to play football. I'll be turning coach. Yes yes just figure it out you say decay left right. I'm just going to walk in front of him in occasionally. What's what's your twice a day. I'll just drop a cone. One of the circular cones in front of him and he just has to avoid the comb or just cross him up and see if he can can actually like get around. You probably not no probably not All right shoe roast for the La Rams New logo leak logo which seems to be correct. It is it first of all. I thought it was the chargers logo. It looks like it's got to see it. Looks like it's gotTa see it's a. It's a ram shell shaped in the see. It looks like the chargers which I'd have to imagine if you had like a list if you're sitting in the RAMS PR room and you're designed this new logo at the top in like bold letters. It should say. Please make sure. There is no ambiguity with the chargers to two things. One don't include the chargers to if we could avoid using the word Saint Louis Rankin action with right. Those are really the only two steps. Yeah that's it didn't do one. It makes me think that maybe it's a combination hat like it's like the La Football Movement. I liked that. So it's football out here. It's like a a drake mets or the Carmelo. Anthony wears the the mets Yankees hat. Yeah exactly right. Who Doesn't do that? It's a hat specifically as he decides which. Nfl team to become a fan of Rob Lowe. Roblo FOR ANY TEAM. That's in the championship a time. Like a spiral type thing on it. It's just very weird. It's weird in the rams. Have a good logo. So I don't know why they're changing it. Yeah they should always be the blue and the yellow. And the Rams Swirl right that's great it's perfect helmet I don't know why some of these logos they just over. Think everything at least like there's so many cool things you could do with. La Rams like just have a be. I don't know two point volleyball to very attractive. People playing volleyball. That's a pretty good idea. That's it that's the logo I mean. There's a whole logo anything about some guys. Some for the girl for the boys. The Best Logos in sports are usually the simplest right like the Yankees logo pinstripes stripes uh-huh star in Dallas. I'm not saying that I like these. But they're the most universally like known logo right the easiest ones dot cu logo. La The ball cat. Yeah the the dodgers logo is actually Loki Awesome. You know what my favorite logo and all sports is though. It's a little bit more complicated. The brewers logo fuck number. Because the brewers shot Kushner. Elettra getting money. They'll get paid. It's got the mid on their Scott the letters M. and be That blew my mind old. It's like do. Ups logo or is it Fedex. Fedex headed Arrow going forward part of my take the logo for us. You know I'll tell don't tell. Don't tell him I was going to say. Don't tell them the hidden meeting. They'll figure it out it. It's less you say we're very high when we created so you might have to do so to people that we just threw that logo together now players subtle hidden meeting. That tells you everything you need to know about this. One thing that isn't shown on the logo. Here's a little behind the scenes tip. Stella isn't heat Yes yes and even though she'd been spayed spay and neuter. Your pets please. Bob Barker didn't die for that even though he's still alive but I'm just waiting for that call. It's going to happen. I don't I don't WanNa whatever pets are are neutered then. They can have a higher probability of getting corona virus. No Pet Jack off. That's cannot get corona VI- they don't have symptoms of Corona virus carriers but they cannot have corona virus dogs hogs Rex Chapman watches person. Die Than Dogs Bra Tibo update. He's been sent out. That's fine he'll be back to for thirteen. This who are going to Aa now I. They might even just make up a fake team for him to go play on to be like. Hey this guy still doing this. Okay if I'm Tibo. I hold out at this point. Because the mets are so incompetent that they don't even know what they haven't him some may say that the mets like continually cutting. Tim Tebow and putting them down in the minor league is the only good roster move. They make well. That's what I'm saying so like Tim. Tebow makes them feel smart every year. They're like okay. We're we know what we're doing with baseball. We see this guy slash line is like one eighty three to three twelve or whatever so we know. Okay that guy's bats we're GONNA get rid of him good job us. Yes we know how to scout any competent team would see tim. Tebow and see the valium not for his talent at baseball but just for his overall. Tim T bonus we're having him on. Your team is a good luck charm. He's like a walking breathing. Circumcising Rally Monkey. That's true. He is the ultimate mascot for a team. Any baseball any any competent major league baseball team would know that they need to bring him. Tibo into their clubhouse for their major league squad sad. It's very very sad. So Tim Tebow maybe next. Spring Hope Springs Eternal. Let's nicer them to cut them this early. It's like when you watch hard knocks. And they usually cut the pretty good veteran early. Because they're like we want to give you enough time to find the other team. Yeah we'll tell everyone when they call the you are not terrible. I think T-boz put enough on film where he should be getting calls. He shoes run tied when he tripped over his on field. You know what the SEC network will probably call him. It'd be like. Hey Tim it's fall again. Are you done with that okay? Cool you're back. Do you think he actually rides. The bus de- maybe he probably does just because he wants to say that he did. Yeah with my guys I was just one of the fellows or he takes a hotel. Air Takes a flight to the hotel and then takes the bus with the fellows from the hotel to the park road. The bus again. Yeah it was tough. It was a lot of traffic tone. Just feel bad because I I want to see Tim. Tebow in a major league baseball game. That's I think we dress this but the astros should absolutely signed Tim. Tebow to just get hit by pitches. Yeah and no. No one would want to hit Tim. Tebow like I think we would still want. Do you think they'd be meaning? The Jersey. Not The people anticipates a good way to look at it. They're going to be beating. Everyone is actually doozy Carlos. Correa JUST GET COSTA. Got Buckled. By a not great curveball. Because he thought it was coming at them that's going to be in their head all season long. It's going to be awesome So excited it's in a sneaky way rob Manfred. I'm going to actually come all the way around and say you did a good job because you kept the story alive and made people want to watch the Astros for the rest of the year. Even if they're not astros fans I know it's GonNa be great like it. Turns out that every single pitch looks like a bean ball. When you're a world class asshole yeah slash. You don't know what's coming yeah. Yeah that's that's the key part of the part that they don't you. Don't hear the yeah. It's a little tough when he speeds coming All right last. I have an idea you guys ready for. This idea. Were GonNA be Millionaires alluded to it? At the beginning. I have an idea. It dawned on me when I was walking on the street. 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Brady Contract; Week 1 Tournament for Our Attention

"Round with the n._f._l. Cast ships tyler at hanham tassos stupid walk of doing other dicit of the around on the n._f._l. Podcast presented by sirius x._m. I'm greg rosenthal room filled with heroes marxists chris wesley and patrick lay by leeann the and i should explain that money trump seems to understand it. <hes> what money is referencing there is the franchise the bachelor and the culmination of the the most recent season of the bachelorette in which <hes> hannah g who is a alumnus of the university of alabama <hes> spurned her engagement and elected go on a date with the guy that she sent off after finding out that her ex was actually in a secret relationship with an auburn fan so this the money drops from david healy potentially yeah i mean i can't think of anyone else in our newsroom that would that it could have come from could could andrew groover yeah. A lot of people know about the bachelorette alabama with the exception of gruber. You know i don't know i don't know about roll tide. I mean include. I like groover a lot but i don't like his his unnecessarily endless prattling on about alabama. We don't do that in a lot a lot of alabama pride. It's <hes> it's monday. You know we're back dan hands. This are are humble. Host is gone. I don't know why that's so rich. Eisen always says i'm your humble host so that's just an interesting parallel. The thing is we all started laughing. <hes> he is on the east coast watching the yankees and the red sox season over the weekend seen his family. He'll be back on wednesday. We have three shows this week but this is probably the only show where mark in west are wearing the exact same shirt we are in. It's been it's it's been months. I want to say at least four months worn this shirt and it just happened that mark pulled out of the closet on the same day after not wearing for well. It's very typical low level level. I would argue caucasian by at a at an outlet and we both wound up with it. I mean you have a fashion. E sta significant other working on your behalf. I would suggest that my wife is not so plugged into my wardrobe but the fact that every time i think about this shirt. I don't wear it because i've seen you where it occasionally and seven is going to roll the dice and snake eyes baby. We're both wearing the same shirt and this actually is a video show for n._f._l. Dot com for the people watching that. They're just being wham cam on wednesday. We'll show it on wednesday. Check check that out yeah. It's a good show issue. It's fine. What's the problem. I don't know i mean westfield's. Put a card on yeah. He changed. It was softball. Team wears the same shirt. They're on the same team well. This isn't really athletic. Competition is it not are we not. I mean we are sponsored so i think when you start off with the bachelor or the bachelorette you can throw athletic who in half the softball team doesn't wear the same shirt you. If you guys were wearing too i get it but you can't just they have to stop. Ultimately got similar ish chequered blue shirt which pretty much every this is cool guy and twenty nineteen that has to wear button down shirts to work has some variation you are. Do you know what color shirt is greg. I can tell you if you don't know blue shirt short sleeves wrong sorts leisure. This could be an athletic endeavor. 'cause claybon might have to sprint down to the newsroom at any moment. He has to stay ready. If something goes wrong during inside training camp live like someone's audio's not working or whatever they need claybon to host the any minute so if listeners there's you'll know what happens if claybon if there's a buy and then you hear the crumbling sound of a microphone which mark brought up before the show. Is that my shameful. I i didn't realize it yeah is probably takes a toll on my mental state because you can talk through with a beeper firemen like ultimate. I've i've talked to i know also in a fire and it's like you know sitting around but you have to stay ready and then when you when you're called in it's like it's from zero to one hundred except there's no lives. It's it's just like we want the t._v. To look nice yeah well people don't yeah <unk> basically your son malcolm's livelihood livelihood as big show with claybon here <hes>. We're gonna go through some news. We're going to talk a little bit about the hall of fame ceremony <hes> over the weekend some the thoughts on that. We're also going to have a segment the week one game. That catches are is already. Don't tell me it's too early. We can get excited already ready for week one absolute but before we do all that <hes> let's get into what we're hearing presented by sirius x._m. Do some news marina. I got a eighty or team so i'm gonna go play myself today. So so you kind of weird. It didn't williams the jets. I just hope he never changes. He's the best he remains funny and that's a big skill like not like every almost almost every other n._f._l. Player would take himself too serious. They even make that that comment. There's a time for him yet. Let's go to another n._f._l. Player who takes himself. You have if someone seriously tom brady and he should. I mean you win. Six super bowls. You should be able to take yourself seriously. You should be able to get paid handsomely and he is now. He is getting a eight million dollar raise for two thousand and nineteen as part of a three year contract extension. That's not really an extension. The deal will void on the last day of the new league year which is march seventeenth twenty twenty according to ian rapoport so he'll be a free agent in twenty twenty potentially. What do you guys make of. Tom brady's newest contract boy. He doesn't want the franchise tag or the transition tag to beat in play for next season. That's right. That's part of the deal. That's part of the deal so the way rap sheet put it. It hurt a little bit for both sides to do this deal but they both it helped both sides a little bit because they both got what they wanted. As way rap sheet put it definitely helps the patriots atrium because you don't i think brady's been vastly underpaid for a very long time and i also have always wondered if he had married just a normal normal civilian leeann woman as opposed to a supermodel he might have asked for more money going back a long way but at this point like they don't need to be trapped or yanked into guaranteed money or future money that may not be there for a player himself and since an ultimately when you've got somebody that's forty two years old this is we we seen a little bit of this <hes> with the way the drew brees contract has been handled almost the exact same thing as you're being kind of just less money and so. It's something that yeah not every n._f._l. Player we can do it but not every n._f._l. Player is going to be able to play into their early. Forties in late thirties in this situation and i just wanna see that like that five seconds where we actually. I think that tom brady is going to be a free agent. Like if people are gonna like send flights remember. I was trying to stir it up when brees was getting closer and then feel it was like a one in twenty chance and i believe that with tom brady i i that patricia is going to be on his doorstep. It's shocking how many things we say on this podcast odd cast and on t._v. Of where we are just we say with utter confidence when the n._f._l. Has treated us. You never say never against anything. Is it possible that tom brady could play for or another team with a number of different circumstances. I think it's possible. I think it's very unlikely but i think this contract was interesting in that giving the guy arrays raised just an eight million dollar. Raise out of nowhere is rare but that's what the patriots did with. Tom brady a year ago and setting up the contract so that he's gonna hit free agency almost no matter what they can't sign them to another contract before then is really rare and i think it's both sides a little bit staring each other down. I think tom brady would like to have more guaranteed money but he's not really committing to plane passed this year. I don't think he's he's told the patriots he's definitely doing that and i think bill check check likes the idea that if he gets hurt or if he's terrible in two thousand nineteen that they could cut them or that they wouldn't bring him back. I think or that it would reach a natural oh end. I think he likes that out. I think that's all part of the dozen this particular relationship. It's also the monaco unprecedent it's different than any other quarterback team relationship nation ship because i think that tom brady. Maybe he's a little peeved not on not publicly to get that extension has a relationship with robert kraft where no one's gonna do the other side wrong. I would love to see like mike gabel strike in an like. Make a call and pull tom. Brady down to tennessee for a year or something but i just don't think it's gonna happy. The streets would would actually run red with blood like there would be there would be real consequences for tom. Brady playing somewhere else and i just why not i it i. I can't imagine that he was good. He spoke to the media before indian's report about the voidable years came out and listening to him. I was like you know he. He's a little ambivalent about this. He said it is what it is. That's a good line and then he has a big pause almost thinking what he's gonna say whoever said it. It's very pertinent like i said there's a lotta guys. Have one year left on his contract so the situation is i've got one year to go and we'll see what happens and he said i'm basically like any other player. That's it's having to prove himself. He's on a year to your base and that's that's probably been true of brady for a year or two. The way that bill belichick is but i do think it's interesting because the way that it was presented in the media and even from brady last week. Tom current a really smart piece. That bella check almost puts this to the brady brady. Put it on craft and i think this is worked out and there's no way to know this but reading between the lines i think this has worked out between brady and craft and ballot. Check is fine with that because it's tom tom brady but it's almost like there's a little bit of something still going on there. Maybe competitor. I think on the spectrum of wanting to talk about money you've got jalen ramsey in it's brinks truck and you know a megaphone and then on the other end. You've got tom brady at the end of his career not wanting to have it be a big news item. Probably this is the same guy who voluntarily move twenty seven million in guarantees to twenty four million in non guarantees a few years ago. I mean i just don't buy that. He's like really ticked off at the patriots with you. I'm not saying that either but i think i think in a perfect world this contract in his world any contract negotiation asian. That's typical that someone wants more than they get and i think he wanted more than than he may be got in this in this case but as mark it's a unique situation and if if we wanted to start the greg rosenbaum patrick claybon performance weightlifting centre it'll be tough for us to put it in patriot place you know hundreds of feet away it from gillette stadium for multiple reasons but the t._b. Twelve performance center is there and it's there because the relationship between tom and they're gonna ship is is pretty good well yeah. They're their partners for life. I mean that that was the thing that i earl thomas about pete carroll. I don't know if i think this public essentially like disguise consensually torching our relationship when we're going to be partners for life. We're going to be champions for life. We're going to be meeting doing sponsorship things and getting together gather with twentieth anniversary team. Thomas and carol like bill bell especially robert kraft and tom brady are essentially business partners for the next. Here's where i could get thorny is when tom brainy comes for scott solex color analyst job. That's when it gets ugly. I just i wanna see if tom brady just has an unbelievable unbelievable season and then he gets the free agency and just holds the patriots over a barrel. I think why are you. Why are you rooting for this. Consternation between the two. It's like like an abusive relationship with no such doesn't seem to exhibit. You just think if anyone deserves a little bit of a break all the rules. It's tom brady. Oh you know what i mean like. Just give just give them the guaranteed money. Mess up your salary cap little next year the tom brady. Tom brady built that. What are you talking about. How bigs yacht the fairy tale ending to a true underdog story. Tom brady against another underdog story. You lee guk way. I mean who is talking about him as a third round pick a few years ago now. He's the one of the best pass rushers in the league. He ended his holdout over the weekend with the jaguars and and he said i'm ready to play and he's not expecting to get a new contract. He'll play for about two million dollars this year. In the fourth year of his rookie deal patrick claybon aw little and geico heat unfortunately within soundbite when he came back he invoked it is what it is. I always can't stand but <hes> the holdout kind of answered this question like at the jags wanted to commit to him long term they could have done it but they don't they draft josh allen in the first round and it seems like he's on his way out but in in terms of production sack production his numbers are up there in the first three years with with bosa khalil mack <hes> better than boasts. What a well. He's he's not nearly the run stuffer that any of these guys yeah his production elsewhere isn't that so that's a problem but they have they had them out there for seventy four percent of the snaps ups last year so it's not like he situational guy now what if they do want to extend him but he wants twenty million instead of say fifty million. We don't have the backstory. It sounded like they were approaching approaching twenty million even with the guarantees he probably if i'm him you would want to have ford contract or better 'cause. He's been a better player than ford consistently much the anti ford and i think jack's real yes. I wouldn't just because he's had one year out of four. We're gonna help your team. He had about one and a half he had half of. He played approval level. In two different seasons. I think the jaguars would assign into this contract. If it wasn't for blake bortles and only jackson and elvin smith i mean they have twenty five million dollars dollars in dead money that tom coughlin's basically burned of shod cons. I mean they're paying. They were paying blake bortles more money than the patriots. Were paying tom. Tom brady going into this weekend before that race so like they've wasted a lot of their money. They have some capitalists and i think that got it his way but eventually so you'll get paid. He reminds me a little bit of demarcus lawrence who had two way next year but then i think situationally got more yeah got more money than he would have anyway. Another man is is made. A lot of money caught mccaw not enough. If you ask me is your son's namesake marxist colt mccoy. Co mccoy's made a lot of money he he's made aide well. That's true he's yeah. I was gonna say he's probably made more and then all of the generations of our families going back two two hundred years i would guess i don't know he's made a lot of money called mccoy avenue open the books on claybon yet but i'm i'm assuming that's true yeah. I don't think we're we're getting to thirteen thirteen million eight hundred ninety one thousand seven hundred now. That's a lot <hes> he's on top of the redskins. Step chart <hes> the they've make them released a depth chart before the first preseason week. Are you excited marxist. I mean i think if anything cole mccoy has earned the trust of the coaching staff and is the perfect guy to slot in been in this position for your first depth chart which i feel like we've learned over the years here. Meets means literally nothing at all. I think if you're if you're jake <unk> gruden you want you want you want. Dwayne haskins to shine in the preseason. Take the week one starting job and save jay gruden's job. Call mccoy's not saving anyone's is job. Did you see j. crew quotes on this. I did not i would have not allowed to read j. J. gruden's. I jay glazer i. I'm not allowed to read jay glazer because of dan but yeah yeah it's early and i was forced to make it. I wouldn't have made a depth chart right now. There's no reason to it's silly. It's words on a piece of paper names on a piece of paper and an order that it means nothing at this point so is he rebelling against the conversation by doing this. I think so. I think that they make them do it for the preseason games because because a lot of them go out of their way to just make them total nonsense like some of these guys i'm thinking of one on the thing alliance is played like guys playing completely the different positions and they're still listed at their old positions like cole mccoy by all accounts. Actually he's probably been third in terms of first team. Reps that case keenum has probably had the most in haskins probably the next most but they are rotating all three. I would argue the lions should spend less time on on death chart antics and maybe more on producing the team that is watchable. Should this be mandated. If only half the coaches are even following the spirit of the rule. It's a good question. I i've had this theory though back. I like it because it's supporting something. I i've written about a couple of times as off season that i think he's got a pretty good chance to start week one not because of this but i just think jay gruden's probably looks at it like this is my last chance to start colt mccoy week one and i've always wanted to like. There's a reason i keep paying him six million dollars. I like them and it just feels like haskins. Gonna come in week three or four for someone but if i'm jay gruden i'd probably just want it to be mccoy not case keenum hold on a year ago. Oh that's what the browns started tyrod taylor and the coaching staff was has been flame since for not starting the better player. What rookie comes in and week three brown. You've opened the competition haskins is truly just blowing the doors off saying he's gonna rush gonna start but i just think gruden loves mccoy and probably sees it like like i'm gonna prove everyone right. This is why have kept them for so he's running out of time to love these decisions. That's all you better start. The better quarterback round situation is most similar to the giants. That's where they've just decided. It's allies job. The other guy can't compete it. It is close to that disturbingly. I remember it was back. When case was acquired. There was the story line that that that was a surprise to jay that he wasn't necessarily involved in those discussions askins was dwayne was the same situation so i can see jay a guy who would create a fraudulent depth chart to stick to the people would also just start the quarterback to stick it to the front office that he seems to be in constant consternation despite the fact that he's one of the longest. It's in your clothes in the total suicide mission at this point did not like all these guys had a thirty percent chance when camp open. That's what it felt like. I don't remember ever having a quarterback competition where it was even gruden has spoken glowingly about housing askins has a little better than the other guys just because if he excels in the preseason this is and they're gonna start with those people who love case man they love yesterday's. I mean they yeah and they jay gruden is one of them they can't they can't <hes> they combined bind to make less than ten million dollars so when according to everyone who says well key is having your a quarterback on a rookie contract the the redskins should be the best team all right so that's that's the news we're going to get to some of the quieter elements of camp news little later with eight o'clock delight right but we did have some sad news that we found out over the weekend. <hes> a couple of people passed away in the n._f._l. World the first coming really tu light when the hall of fame ceremony was happening in ken and that was cliff ranch the the great oakland raiders receiver passing away at at the age of seventy one and the timing. I mean he had fourteen seasons <hes> a lot of people that saw him play believe. He's one of the most underrated players there's ever and he was. Maybe the first name i thought of when the news was announced last week that they're gonna open up the twenty twenty hall of fame class twenty people people and people immediately said now here's torry holt's chancellor i know the modern era candidates not changing at all. It's five just like normal but what they're going to do is bring in ten <hes> players that have been passed over that normally would go to the seniors committee and cliff branch who was an all decades player. I believe to me is probably one of the highest guys on that less than i and i suspect will be entering canton and it's and it's sad that it's gonna be posthumous. He he passed away at the age of seventy one one of the best deep threats and n._f._l. History three the best wide receiver in the n._f._l. From nineteen seventy four to seventy six at a time when receiving stats were way low because it was before the mel blunt blunt role and cornerback could just take you out down the field but he was he was their best offensive weapon on those madden era raiders that seem to be fighting the steelers for the right to the go to the super bowl every year and and it was it was mad and who because a lot of people feel like he has been kept out of the whole theme unfairly for a long time into for the reasons you just stated west and it was maddening adding new basically said it is going to happen to you in this quote they've found is is is jarring because he basically said cliff cliff branch that i am not dying until until i get in the hall of fame once i got the call get that gold jacket in that ring i could die the next day but i'm going to stay alive for that deserving honor to come my way so i mean for it to happen probably probably about a year before it happens is ill timing in in cliff branch kind of flies in the face of people who think about football before the nineties or in the early eighties is like <hes> you know sky's who wouldn't necessarily be able to function in today's game. This is a guy was about six feet like one hundred eighty pounds. Ells ran a a tin flat. One hundred meters in college like this is a explosive dude. He averaged seventeen point three yards per catch for his career bonkers it. There is a five five year period where he led the n._f._l. And receiving and that's why it's so tricky to look back at numbers and it's like of course he has way less numbers than but say the steve. Smith junior has or something but when he led the n._f._l. And receiving for five year is basically like a dead ball. Era like the baseball has deadball era where there wasn't home runs the n._f._l. N._f._l. had that with passing and and you can't you can't hold that against cliff branches called the raiders wore his number today at practice as a tribute and then and another passing unfortunately the happened this weekend that we learned about on sunday was former sports illustrated writer don banks wchs who i think all of us know our i know western and mark no in this room personally kind of came out of nowhere he was in canton covering the hall of fame ceremonies for the las vegas review journal where his first column actually debuted on sunday and they they found him in his room and he passed away of natural causes really said like one of the nicest guy one of the guys were starting at rota world and n._b._c. just like a bigger our national guy that goes out of his way to ask if you need anything and and kept up a relationship over the years when he didn't have to do that. There aren't a ah in this in the in the world that we work in sports. I like sports. Writers are get a bad reputation for being jerks a lot of times and i find that to be untrue. Often a a lot of the older guys are some of the competitiveness they see it from a different perspective in in you know when the news hit and it was it was yesterday when you found out one person after the after the next tweeted about their personal run with don banks where they might have been fighting with him for a story or just learning the ropes oops age gender. It didn't matter what were they wearing the career he was. There's all these stories about him. Lending helping hand unselfishly and i had this one night ah i didn't know him very well at all but there was a night when i was covering the browns and it was right after the hall of fame and i was in cleveland and i saw him in a hotel lobby and they wanted to walk up and talk to him but he was with his son and he was having this what i could tell this amazing conversation with his son who one of his sons is a journalist now so i don't know which one it was his two sons in there like eight in their eighteen twenty s he was with them and brought them to these events and it just seemed like they were having this awesome dad son moment. I'm like i'm not gonna go interrupt that right now but it is this thing that we're when this happens kinsley. He's left behind two boys who are not young children but i remember being twenty. Something and i still needed my dad one hundred times cents and that's that's where it just it hurts a lot. I talked about the shame of the timing with clip cliff branch you might get into the hall of fame at a time when he can't even save her that spotlight and dan don banks the timing on a guy who was a magazine writer in the internet era and had to kind of remark it himself in his fifties and figure right what he was going to do with his life and how he was going to remain relevant. He finally got his. I wouldn't say his dream job but he got the job with las vegas review journal writing for the n._f._l. An overview of the league and his first column came out sunday about hard knocks. It's a really good column about what the raiders coaches now face that the browns coaches coach's daily and he told peter king i'm back baby and then that was that day he didn't wake up the banks <hes> pass away at the age of fifty seven. We you know we send our thoughts to his family. All his close friends and that news happened in canton. I mean he was there in canton. There's a a sad cap to the week on the weekend which was a very sad weekend weekend in this country in general but but in canton there were great moments and there were as always it's cool to see the guys getting getting their bus and how seeing how much it means to them and the interaction between the hall of famers and then hearing them speak patrick nick. Did you have any takeaways <hes> watching the ceremony on saturday the i guess my takeaway was either. I understand the hall a little bit more as the guys that i associate with my adolescence and my coming to football is as they start to make it in and i've i've always felt that ed reed and champ bailey were were some of the best football players that i've ever seen and to to you see them up there on that stage. It was kind of like i'm starting to get it yeah a little bit more because i've seen the hall and the consternation with with teo and there's other the things that have pushed me away from maybe leaning into it as as much as as other people have but now i see it more you know these are the jerseys. Did i had the guys that i wanted to watch read jersey. Yeah 'cause not that. I was this miami me fan but the boston college game <hes> in two thousand one when it was close boston college on the twenty they throw an interception to d the lyman in ed reed takes it from him in most like impossibly dangerous situation like what are you doing in return for touchdown and it's like that's yes yes that that's like. That's what i want for myself. Maybe like the perfect that read play and so yeah to see those guys go in and <music> obviously the way champ bailey ended his speech. <hes> you know employing people to listen to us when we when we say this is what's happening in the world to to at least listen. I appreciate that because i mean as you guys know i'm probably people would probably say the way i feel about things or extreme and so whenever guys can bridge is that gap and make it a little more easy for people to accept the way i feel about our planet <hes> i like that so shout champ for that that was the number one moment for me was champ bailey speech and specifically that part of it mentions like you're used to seeing us size and aggression aggression football players especially the black football players and here he is with a forum asking humbly very humbly when we tell oh you there are many challenges we face because of the color our skin. Please listen <hes> when when we say about our fears and our fears for our children please listen and and i was raised white catholic will there was one black kid in my high school. <hes> no jews no hispanics. There was one democrat in my grade school class us. It was the opposite of diversity and moving to los angeles to me my favorite part of california's that diversity you can talk about the weather. The scenery is the diversity and getting to speak to people and listening my friends. I grew up with our good people but they don't have diversity in their lives so don't even get a chance to really listen to friends to loved ones. They listen to pilot politicians. They listen to people on t._v. But to me that was a very the important part of our national discussion. Please listen they. Have they have stories that tell that you will never know. I thought the other stories that were told as well that i you feel like you learn if it's someone even if you think you know who had read is and there's a lot of content about ed read over the years like i just love hearing how he got even to college into the the n._f._l. And he points out someone like his teacher miss hall who live with for a while and who saw through so much he went out of his way to name every equipment manager said he works with which i thought he was a complete sense of his thankfulness and he dug in so deep with his mom and his dad raised in west. Maybe a a little bit like he was in a one bedroom apartment with four boys. That wasn't your case. You had six other brothers. That's a lot i have two boys and my house and i feel like the roofs popping off all the time ed regis show this incredible appreciation and even somers a shout out the bar and you know we think we know for instance like chuck pagano is based on his minor run with the colts and we've got the book on chuck pagano and then you hear from ed read that it was chuck pagano that taught that recruited him that that fostered relationship with him taught him how to be a db. I it's like these guys and hits a little bit on gil brandt telling little stories about bill belichick catching passes from star back on <hes> you know on prep during practice when his father was around and you'll brent had all these little innuendoes and people that he wove into it as well their history. These guys have been around the game for forty fifty years. You've got to take a step back when you've only been looking at it and covering it for a shorter amount of time from the outside they know things will never know and have seen things. We'll never see and i'm. I'm glad glad that they have this forum for them to do this. Because like football culture canada states that you should keep your nose to the grindstone and just say the exact thing that you're doing and it sucks that we have to wait five years until after champ bailey retires for him to provide his thoughts on this topic or any any topic in particular. I i wish there was maybe maybe it's different now with social media and we're able to get this but it just feels unfortunate that we have to wait so long long to be exposed to these great ideas and great men <hes> until until this point most of them had no forum. They did not have twitter. They did not out of any way to communicate anything like a media ville. There's always like an awkward or funny moment and i'm gonna have <hes> eric play play the one from mattis that really stuck out to me. Thank that organization steve audio. Ozzie newsome goes bella. Check staff codes hard to staff staff if you've been to save brian billick that's it's fine. He meant to save brian. It's tough because if you're you're up there and he's going to realize that afterwards and he's gonna he's gonna be annoyed about it's like but you can't you can't contain can't take it back. That's it that was brian relics. That was it i also read was getting booed here and there. Let's read was getting booed here and there by heavy brown's crowd in canton ohio crowd and also got bengals fans coming up and he basically said listen. I love brennan. The browns the bengals. I respect those organizations. You guys gave me thirty interceptions interceptions. He's like it's not my fault you kept changing quarterbacks and like come on this guy is a good sport like i thought he'd his speech was my favorite of the group i my favorite was tiles which shouldn't be a surprise like a lot of patriots fans. Tyler was my favorite my favorite player on the two thousand one team that won their first super bowl and i i thought it was so cool that he is the first guy in from all those patriots teams to the hall of fame. Even that was twenty years ago that they won that super bowl but he's the first one and i just find that delightful because there's no there's been no one else patriot's history like like kyla. It's funny because talked a little bit about the patriot way. I mean if there's ever a player that did not fit what they talk about with the patriot way. It's tie la. I mean it's ty law's way tie. I law was drafted by bill parcells. He was an all pro and probably played his best football under pete carroll and he made sure to to mention peak caroline. How important pete carroll was to him and then he wants to super bowls with bill belichick and so that's like the star of modern peg patriot's history and he's had all those three guys and and he was a bad ass and he talked about how bella check would let him do it his way in that after a couple of mistakes then you come and do it my way you know and he he was the guy who kind of you know was cocky and physical and confident. He's the guy that got bill belichick and robert kraft after dance on the stage in two thousand one. He's the one that didn't quite fit in but he was also the best player on that team and he was the leader i would say of that defense events in two thousand and one and because of that maybe that's why bella check said by the end of his career but watching him play like he he was was the embodiment to me of parcels on the field when when parcells was the coach and he came in with that sorta cockiness and change the whole franchise like thailand chains that on the appealed bill parcells threatened to cut him as one of the only first round cuts camp if he didn't get his act together too so it's funny to hear because demarcus ware has bill. You'll parcells stories as well. It's many great players have like bill. Parcells was threatening me and another holiday either. He's not that good or assisted jerk like in a million years. He would have never cut tyler but he's just threat other coaches might have more wins and more super bowls goals but to me mark the same age. He's the iconic coach from that. Oh yeah the writers all loved him because no one spoke like bill per. Nobody's as funny as nobody says candidates him and the players all loved him yeah he. He said he like bill. Part lies law said parcells guy that got inside my head and motivated baited me an invalid text the one that gave me the xs and os so a great hall of fame ceremony as you mentioned gil brandt. <hes> did a great job thanking everyone on his speed. He didn't think everyone else could be mentioned. I mean we've for a while but you know this is the part of the show where if dan was here he would be saying. This is the longest new segment we've ever had and you know it's not even over because it's time for a little eight o'clock delight ricky houston texans cut two thousand in seventeen third round pick dante four men west. What do you think no running back has comeback successfully from achilles surgery in the history of the n._f._l. It should also be noted that no star running back has ever suffered an achilles injury in the n._f._l. Jake's <hes> antonio brown has barely practiced that raiders camp. He's got a foot issue had to check out a specialist patrick claybon. What's your level of concern you heavy. I guess blisters are a pain in mike windy. When did they get fixed. It just takes time you can't do anything he can use his feet not a not a good looking for right now josh rosen. He's it's a nice looking young man and he had a nice scrimmage on saturday apparently had some big throws. This competition is not over yet mark. I mean must have heard to our show on friday where we kind of said let's go. Let's get this guy going and i if he's not starting week one. I think it's a major disappointment is the second year first round quarterback please. Wes you boil avantis. David underwent surgery is going gonna be out of few weeks big difference maker for that defense and meniscus surgery. That's something that stays with you through your career and i believe it's what ended torry holt's commitment. That is a young young defense tampa to pat signed cam meredith. I liked the money side in new orleans who knows if he's healthy <music> nice. I would now like to issue a public apology to <hes> what is his first name grooves this year hill kamu kamu gruza hill. You're supposed to be part of eight o'clock delight that a lot of notes. There lots of shelves frantically google this the timing. Do we really need to go back so sorry. Let's see where we are in a week with that situation good. We have a segment segment and it's called the week one game. I don't know do should we workshop the segment. I mean in terms of the title like this'll it'd be good for the title here. I mean it's ultimately the week one game that catches my eye. It's early it's august. We've kind of got this long training camp camp in front of us. Still four weeks of the preseason left to go. We're actually guys. I don't know if you know this the n._f._l. Season is twenty eight weeks long. It starts with camp. We are through two who weeks of it two weeks count that first week of training camp so i kind of gives it more perspective. I like that idea yeah. It says a little over half your through to the next four are some of the most it's challenging who needs to talk more about camp and the preseason. We'll do that plenty. Let's talk about the regular season and a game that is just getting us excited. Don't tell tell us it's too early. It's too early. This is the first time i've gotten excited about football since probably last december really what about the patriots chiefs in january yeah championship. That was a great game. He's keeping it real. No doubt at some point didn't really excite me but but some of the the playoff games every game the saints played basically saints kneeling lasts less. One of the best was maybe the best game of the year. The saints eagles was a terrific perfect game in the n._f._c. Championship game was not the best game as exciting. Both saints rams games. Were good good stuff football west. I guess let's start with west then that we he's a week one game what what's getting you started well so many different ways. I could go but let me start with rams at panthers. I like these matchups that kind of make a statement at the beginning of the year. How good is this team and i think the panthers i'm looking at them to be the panthers that they were in the first half of last season when they look like a legitimate playoff contender and their defensive line is better now some of their skill position players are better so kindergarten curtis samuel <hes> <hes> can he make a kind of leap like christian mccaffrey did last year so to me. That's a good listener litmus test going against the n._f._c. representative from the super bowl the rams i i would not consider the rams a heavy favorite in that game. I think it's a statement game for the rams and a little tiny bit where i know the preseason is going to answer. Some questions and i feel like the rams of of any team in the league. We're going to do this but we're going to tell you this all off season just a lot of mixed messages and they're the team was mystery still out. There todd gurley obviously wobble his workload be they've got daryl henderson in the backfield and jared goff. Let's have a huge game after a totally disappointing super bowl but you're on the road and i think as as i think it was greg greg chronicling the early season andrew luck plan last year where he wasn't throwing deep as much. It was a notable difference from the way he played. It seems like carolina might be heading down that path. Oh remember how freaked out way where when they brought in perset to throw the helm areas like oh yeah we don't know if andrew andrew luck again but he he slowly worked himself back and if you look at the timelines picket lines up with cam where he might play like that to start the season and so yeah i would like to you see because obviously we want to see cam rip fastballs to the sideline but we're not gonna see that and week one thirty doesn't cam being thirty. Make you feel old yeah. We started the podcast what two years after he was drafted. It just feels like that doesn't make you feel there are almost in my life now cam cam newton's age and he still looks young tracking ace bookies age at this point. I mean any moment on twitter makes me feel ancient <hes>. Let's say that right off the bat yeah. I'm i'm more in on the panthers cause of all or nothing in and nothing is just reminding me how since kim's come in the league like just he's one of the most exciting players to watch but now this new crap is here and it's like don't forget about him. Do you know why people are down on this all or nothing sees it. Well damn mentioned the timing's a little off. They need to nail down that but it's more about football than drama and that's why people don't like it's good show yeah and the footballs in the past. It is a good show. I think it suffers in comparison to last chance ends you which comes out at the same time and maybe not many people watch both i don't know i watch both and it's like last chance you the stakes are so high i that it just makes you know whereas all or nothing it's like. I know it's professional and they're making a lot of money. It's like but lance you is so well done and ask some interesting interesting questions about football and the world and everything and it's life or death and then all or nothing. It's like we're gonna win a game or not like it's hard to feel like that's that big of a deal and you so you don't really have too many spoilers for junior college football but in terms of watching and watching the panthers play the falcons in week seven okay yeah. I know what happens here. Yeah i usually half the time. I'm watching these games like who wins this game who won redskins panthers. I had to watch remember another thing. I forgot and have to remember. This segment is a big time ad read. Usually it would come before the segment but you know what we want everyone. 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I recently watched it so i think that's either episode three or four if it was in the first few years the first few episodes if you wanna go check it out. I am band now back to the segment. It's the week one game that catches their eye. That were excited about mark. What's up. I think for me. It's you know i've not gonna fake that. All these games interest me but this week one so every team is new so there is a part of there's an element of fascination. I wanna see detroit at arizona. I can't believe i'm including detroit in anything right sam super into it but it's two diametrically opposed philosophies. You feel like detroit. Detroit wants to run the ball as much as anyone in the league they wanna use the run stuffing defense and just play an old school style of football but then we're gonna get our first look at the cardinals cardinals under cliff kingsbury running their four five wide offense and whatever happens because i'm hoping that even though you have to show some of it in the preseason it won't be that unlike do you know and it's a totally different scheme. Chip kelly came in week one and no one still had any real idea what they were going to do any flamed the redskins for like thirty five points in the first half of that monday night football game. I just wanna see what happens in this and if it works i think the most interesting offense coming into the n._f._l. This this year is arizona. We've talked about it endlessly endlessly and the my advice to the lions because i was thinking about how i used to play everyone talks about mad they used to play tech mobile against my brother and he would be dan marino in the dolphins and the one the most popular edition and you can just throw these bombs up and down the field and score will so i would get a run heavy team like the giants against the raiders and i would run the ball for six yards and i let thirty seconds tick down in the quarters are a minute and a half so that had to be annoying for your nuts. I gave him like one possession. In the first half and scored fourteen points then opened the i got the ball in the second half went down the field scored another touchdown eric cessnas wondering learn how to climb out of a twenty one nothing hole and then he gets the ball for maybe eighteen seconds in the second half to that's how you squeeze them out for python slough really you up. The mobile video game entertained. Take no prisoners be fun or twelve with games ahead to get serious. I am surprised. I think that's gonna be your game then on the after. I'm already thinking about assigned well. You know you're gonna. I'm surprised the lines finds included in that but i'm with you like we my favorite week of the season because it's the first time you're seeing so many different. Things and i'm gonna that'll be one. The first games i turn on on on game. Pass is 'cause. I wanna see cuyler murray. Yes styles make fights but nobody's really usually watching the bantam weightless. What does that mean. I mean it's the cardinals and lines. You don't know you don't know you really know the cardinals. Come on what are the chances. One of those teams make the playoffs. That's the thing it's week. Guan all among the teams that we don't consider contenders is like a tournament for our attention right. The winner of that game gets like you know a little bit aside aside i for the next week and then maybe eventually four weeks from then. We'll be all right tom to watch the lion right like the bills jets which is not my choice but for years. That's always been a boring during game in week. One you're right. It's kind of like which one of those teams gets out to a fast. I'm excited to watch both those teams because of the quarterback in general lay on velvet. It's like one of those. Those teams smells like a team. That's going to be three and one at the end of september and gets a lot of attention throughout the year because of that and it's like all right what frank or scores the winning touchdown on his old coach adam gates. There's a little wrinkle on. They say gore's looking pretty good and camp right now. You can get t t j yeltsin claybon what what game you choosing round one of my tournament for attention <hes> literally because the segment named worked for me. I was scrolling through week one looking for something to catch my bruce arians returns as a head coach against jimmy g. returning from a torn cruciate on the east coast. I'm down. I'm ready to see just just have an answer of this era forty niners like what are you going to be. What are you going to accomplish and to just see how bruce's back we're brash and the kangol still going and he's got a quarterback that likes to be aggressive and take chances and it it just seems like you think is gonna coach from the golf cart supposedly <laughter> uh-huh supposedly having a good camper west jameis winston. What are you talking about like last week. Every article is why is now bulls defense so far ahead of jameis winston winston believe you box me out for that claybon. I chose that thinking while no one's going to choose that. I don't even need no mark. The sun's yeah but i'm with you. I'm so i'm excited to see both those teams because i think they are both mysteries. I think like i want to see what the forty niners offense especially with dante pettis and matt brita and tevin coleman. It doesn't sound like jerick. Mckinnon is going to be in the mix. Maybe early in the year but just george kiddle hit all and then i think the bucks are going to put some something on people and i wanna see todd bowles smilin'. This is new todd bowles. He's happy now smart. I mean that's he's in a good mood. I told me in season hasn't started yet. He's got like the youngest secondary. Maybe i've ever heard it's never a good thing no <hes> at least that during practice and there's some injuries five of their top six defensive backs were first or second year players. That's pretty rare. Never here's the reason why yeah it didn't work out well. Maybe it will work out. How about another game for us greg. Oh no i. I got a bunch but you. It's your you gotta pick one on my backup choice. Was it goes against everything. I believe in week one. Which is i just wanna see like the new everything but i'm actually it's real with myself. I wanna see falcons vikings. I'm invested in both of these teams. I think it's a high qual- potentially high quality first weekdays. It's not new staff. It's veterans on defense in minnesota. It's a better looking offense and minnesota and its team in atlanta. Now that man i had a lot of high hopes for last year and i was kind of rooting for i like who they have on defense and it just didn't work out at all and those are two teams was that i could see them in the super bowl. I don't know why not i could see one of those teams. I think there are two really good teams in established to good quarterbacks. You're going to get a nice little high. Hi level of play and yeah. I think you'll probably get a nice high scoring game. That's what i'll take that week one sheep jaguar sorry go ahead say that's like the bounceback tournament that game yeah. I like chiefs jaguars. You're gonna obviously you have mahomes but i think finally jaguars fans can watch a game without having their blood. Pressure goes to the ceiling every time but every time blake bortles gets the ball in his hand. If you're nick foles like i'm rooting for him to do well and that to me is like another team where jacksonville needs to get out to a quick start and there's a lot of questions because they've been a run heavy offense for a long time and under john de filippo. You're trying to become something completely different with a quarterback who's never played with any of those players. Uh-huh plus like all the chiefs business right. It's week one. It's andy reid. He's like he's like funk. Master flex dropping bombs on people and september his the people. Don't know what what comes andy reed's town in september. I gotta go wait well. Let's <hes> before you even go next west. Let's go to erica kane. What what game are you looking for week. I don't know <hes>. I should've warned you hear well yeah but patriots steelers come on now. Why not right come on you know. There's all this talk about the steelers being like what are they going to be with all their their missing players there so together. Everything's gonna be cool. Brady a few maneuvering contract. We're gonna be taping but then and you'll be editing a little but the second half you'll be able to walk. You know all you need. Is that that t._v. Last two minutes <hes> other game anyways and money. I hate that as a week one game as patriots fans to me but who knows what would that out. I'm sure super concerned. Learn sorry what was yours. They're going to say how about imposts he just on the spot nails it every year in the modern n._f._l. This this may only be true in the last three or four for years. There are a handful of teams that enter the season with an offensive line that could swing their season either way and last year. The colts swung it the right way. Eh they face the chargers this year who could swing the wrong way. This team might not have melvin gordon. They might not have russell kun. They don't have tyrel williams uh-huh. I'm looking at a chargers team that has transformed into a defense first team over an offense team and a colts team. I know everybody's worried about andrew luck and he told peter king. I certainly believe i'll be out there and we won so to me. That's that's good enough for me but the real good quote comes from frank reich and talk about mark doc was talking about his video games with his brother frank right compared playing quarterback to a video game. He said i know andrew's been in some really good offenses breath. We're gonna turn him loose like he's never been turned loose before oh and he said here's an example. I would use in a video game. If you're playing quarterback you'll see these easy z. Targets that pop up on the screen and they're all a hundred points draw one hundred points that pretty easy to hit and every once in a while you see thousand point target pop up just for a split second. Those are the ones andrew. Luck is going to be hitting. There's going to be more thousand point targets on the field one k. andy yeah wh-what's video games. I'm wondering what is playing there but i sounds like a future video. It's like whack a mole. Yes yes italian air type of it's a sneaky big game sneaky big a._f._c. game choice and shot out to the colts <hes> breaking news. I just signed deontay form. They got him off of waivers from houston. Bro that's claybon. He just brings it back around as we're wrapping. They need a backup surprising. Bring you back into the studio for that right hole you. Why not i give a gift form and a chance. Give him a shot who knows they don't have much depth there. I think i think we've said it. I think klay bonds come in here and he's knocked it out. Tamposi wow just stepped right in with the patriots game little predictable but still good analysis. I like a year. There's more football analysis vs on your twitter feed lately. I like seeing that some fantasy rankings. Yeah you know fancies a fun game. I think it can argue that data. No and i think that's it. I think we're going to wrap this thing up here. Craig art show streams on thursdays for those that are interested in thank you said wednesday's at at the beginning so if you're listening and you want to see some video stuff it is thursday's at two pm n._f._l. Dot com or are you going to post the spiderman of already dead. Yeah yeah go go r._t. That there's there's a great pick like one of the many things he did there in the show. She wasn't listening to to speak wh wha- two p._m. Eastern multitasking two p._m. Pacific or eastern also drawing three d. on the back of my paper and i'm stacking them and it's pretty a funny. It's two pm eastern so figure it out for the for the rest levin eleven a._m. Pacific what a great time just doing now have lunch and <hes> watch us on thursday but we back on wednesday dan we'll be back in the host chair and we're three times a week for the rest of this year from our excess ler chris wesseling patrick claybon and eric ricky hollywood tamposi aid see you wednesday ships tyler at hanno welcome to another edition of the around on the n._f._l. Podcasts i'm greg rosenthal in a room filled with heroes. Mark sesser chris west selene sudden end to the song. We got to start over why presented by sirius x._m. Oh yeah come to another edition of the around the n._f._l. Podcast i'm greg rosenthal in a room filled with <hes> again and welcome to another edition of the around the n._f._l. Podcast presented by sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio. I'm greg rosenthal a room filled with heroes mark chesler chris wesseling selene and patrick klay by to happen it. 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Week's Best: (LeBron and Vogel, Durant's confidence, Honey Badger interview, Zeke Elliott, Carson Wentz)

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Week's Best: (LeBron and Vogel, Durant's confidence, Honey Badger interview, Zeke Elliott, Carson Wentz)

"Welcome to the weekend edition of the undisputed podcast on your host Johnny Taft today's podcast features all the best segments from this week sleet of undisputed with end up interviews and discussions Russians. We have a lot to talk about heading into next week. Skip Shannon. Let's get to the Lakers might have a revamped roster but it's still features Lebron. A report surfaced earlier this week revealing that the the Lakers intended to start the king point guard next season however now L. as new coach Frank Vogel is refuting that idea he talked yesterday about meeting his team superstar as well. Take a listen Vogel. What have your interactions been like so far with Lebron? James and Anthony Davis very very positive. <hes> you know it. It became very clear that <hes> you know I was going to have the support of my best player. In Lebron <hes> once I took the job and since Anthony has come aboard his felt the same way there is no decisions made on our starting lineup <hes> no imminent plan to start a ron at the point guard spot <hes> a lot of different nominate their lineups and combinations have this have been discussed but it's really way too early for any of that <hes> he'll be a primary ball handler <hes> <hes> in our system the same way he has been his entire career but we're certainly not going to ask him to do anything that he hasn't done his entire career so talented he can do so much but are you surprised by these comments from No. I'm not I mean what would he going to do like he exchanged numbers like he went from twenty three to six where you're going to change his position now all of a sudden S._A._F.. He's GonNa be P._G.. A point guard no skilled Lebron. James is going to have the ball in his hand. He's an almost an eight assists a game for career so and he's led led his team in assist every year for sixteen straight years. I didn't think that was gonNA change just because they're like okay now. He's going to be the point guard. Lebron James is a small board. He was gonNA have the ball in his hand. He's GonNa Bring the ball up court for the most apart and his usage rate will be. I mean he's not a hard or rough type usage guy but that's what he does. He's going to have the ball and now we got eighty that because you mentioned I know how piggy rolling would O'Brien James A._d.. Good look stop it. At the most most unstoppable play you used to be a magic to the low low block the Korean but this right here might be the most lay right now. It's getting really oh how big a role with a brow and the cane so we're going all time all time. Don't worry about what we go and we go into the championship. That's what we go look. We've always understood what Lebron he's a great passer at six foot nine basically he's he's more and he's always been this skipped. He's always been more Magic Johnson than Michael Jordan his ability to he could score he can score his the twenty seven point three twenty seven point four career average but it's the highest SIS total for that position although magic where with a true point guard Lebron is not chew point guard but he gives you all the things that he point guard can do he has great vision can handle the ball but he can score so I was Lebron James Apart nominee you weren't he's not changing position. He they small forward. He's the greatest mall to ever live. He's the goat and so when you go you can do Goethe's things live play. All five positions like Bill Point Guard leisure team for the seventeenth. Yeah okay good so I watched this interview live and I had a completely different. Take away then you add because I just about fell out of my chair when he uttered those lines we just saw got off to a good start about very very positive with Lebron so far and I knew right away that I was going to have the full support of my best player because his best player showed up at his first press conference in L._A.. Who we do lean against the back wall well here I am he could Mashona? They asked me to come so I'm just going to stand here against the back wall and I'm not GonNa have any expression on my face. I'm not going to climb you want. Did you want to do you want him on the podium with him his arm around him come on. Let's okay so oh then we get to the question the hour and the question is there have been lots of reports including one right here on the air from our Chris Broussard that Lebron actually would prefer at this stage and age to be the point point guard. I don't know if you WANNA put P._G.. Besides Ryan because P._G.'s kind of bad initials right now because he's the guy next door he's Yon Cassius right to lean and hungry look right wanted to assassinate you but the point is he's always always been whatever he wants to be because he deserves to be whenever he wants and Vogel goes on to say no we don't have any imminent plans to making the point guard and then he ends up by saying. We're certainly not going to ask them to do something. Thank hasn't done his entire career. That's the line that got me. I'm like what time out that is all. He's done his entire career. He has always been at his very best at his greatest with the ball in his hand dribbling the ball up the basketball. It's who he is. It's what he was born to do. He is still to this moment. The best passer in basketball to your point he is six feet nine inches tall and nobody can see over a defense offense any better than he could going back to Magic Johnson because magic was also six feet nine inch magic Johnson's vision would call Malone's body he does he has a much beefier stronger body than magic. Magic didn't drive the ball with the basket so he's got dual threat going on because he has the gift of Magic's passing with the freight train yes capability so the point is this was Frank Vogel to me digging in and saying saying timeout to Ronrico who's asking the question. I want everybody to understand. I'm the new head coach. He's not the coach. I'm the head coach and when I decide he will be the point guard then he will become the point guard. The obvious I answer of the moment was hey if Lebron tells me he wants to be the point guard then he's going to be the point guard. We let the obvious right answer at that know the right answer would say there's no imminent plans for us to play him at that position right now. We're going let Lebron James in which he say we're GonNa let Lebron v Lebron Okay but Lebron has always been Lebron Acadian and you should acknowledge that he's always been. He said he'll be a primary ball handler in our system like we have to blend Linden our system. You know we'll we'll let you he's the system and yet to me you can't you're crossing swords with him right away. You're trying to say because look all the reports. If you have read the tea leaves correctly why is Chris Broussard said Kay both both Chris's both guys contributors to this show Broussard more than we have seines on but the point is that both of them have indicate. Where do you think they got their info from? Both of them are well-connected to Lebron's insiders Yep to his inner circle right. This is coming from Lebron. He is entering year seventeen and it's Lebron's idea. I should segue even more into that roll especially with this team because now we have some shooters we had no shooters last year. We had playmakers and write this. He has a guide that he knows on a nightly basis can go get him twenty seven. Hey Okay so you bring the ball up the floor designation or no you are the point guard and you've always when he was at his would always tell you the greatest three-game stretch of his career games one two and three of two Thousand Fifteen Ryan's no no Kevin love going into game one loss Syrian overtime game one and what did he do. He just put that whole show on his back and sit watch this he dribble the ball off the floor and he controlled the temple like crazy every fourteen assist in that series it was unbelievable and he had them down two games to one in going into game four which was in his house that is highly. I wish he'd closed the deal and then you might have a real case of goat. If the clothes that you might have a legitimate case you have no <hes> have illegitimate illegitimate completely. Nobody thinks that but you and that's okay you and Lebron and maybe maverick. I you know what I don't think maverick who knows but here's the point back to Frank Vogel just remember where did did he come from he came from he tried to play basketball at a D.. Three school then he gave that up and transferred to Kentucky where he was Patino Student Manager. Okay this is his background and then Patino fell loveland because he's a hard worker and a good guy hi and in great to have around took him with him to Boston with Celtics to be the video coordinator for five years so he paid his dues and then finally got an assistant job out of becoming the video coordinator of the Boston Celtics because Patino loved him. That's the Guy Who's now coaching the player with the highest I._Q.. To me in the history of Basketball Lebron James Highest. I Q you better be careful with that because you don't have the credentials to make big broad sweeping immigration ratio most most coaches start at the lower level Sean McVeigh. I mean Sean mcvay didn't always started out as a coordinated. Sometimes you have to cut your teeth. Look at coach Belichick and you start out at low levels. You wake work work your way up and then you become there. I'm not GonNa Menaka because of his credentials. I I agree with it. I don't think we should put a title and say well. He's a point guard. He's he's a busy too that we know he's going to handle the ball. We know he's more than likely going to lead this team. Let's this so we would just leave it at that. Okay I just I think battle line has suddenly been drawn of. I'm the player I'm not I could hear it. I just said to me I tweeted it. You will look at my timeline. I said here we go because what happens with Lebron with first year head coaches what happened in game number. I think it was seventeen of his first. Go Round or as first year with the heat what happened. Oh we had a small rowboat. Yeah we walk another call. We had to let him know and faithfully that was in ominously that was in Dallas that they're nine and seven at that point and they were losing that game they ended up losing by Levin and he shot him. A Little Bowl bumped him out of the way as walking back a little statement that hey I'm in charge you not you got off to a rocky start. Start Nine and seven right as a little queer real shot yeah I would look a little little rendell multiple reports that he then went up to the office of Pat Riley and said you coach this right Yup. Come on the WHO's this kid write about hope. It doesn't get to that and now we've seen what was that with all six when they five Miami Fire Stan van Gundy Bet Riley came down in the end the winning the title but that doesn't happen very very off all right so hopefully Frank Vogel can hold onto the job at least for a and by the way that was ominous because the next time Lebron played in Dallas was in the N._B._A.. Final right and had suffered his worst meltdown career in that files. Just I'm just wondering you all you. I don't know pass you always try like that. Okay and then we had the fateful game four of the Twenty fifteen conference semifinals at Chicago remember. They were in trouble in that game. Do you remember when he went home to Cleveland Right Guy and so they're in such trouble. They're down two games to one to derrick rose right Jimmy Butler yeah and Jimmy Butler and what happens at the end of the game. David Blatt dares to say he's calling a play for Kyri inbounded by Lebron Pilot Brian James. It's eighty four all with one point five seconds left and he says Lebron you take the ball out because he's telling him you're not clutch. I gotta get the ball in the the closer needs to take this shot Kyrenia show and after the game Lebron James volunteered and I have the quote here he volunteered he was asked about this. He said to be honest the play that was drawn up. I scratched it. I just told coach. Just give me the ball we either going into overtime or I'm going to win it for us it was it's that simple boom. It was that simple that Lebron is going to coach when it's time to coach that tells me clover. No that was the rare time Lebron. James Got Mad. I tell you about if Lebron can get mad instead a shaky because he's always like Orlando Game Two Eastern Conference final yeah and then what Hap- Abon yeah skill is giving them an average thirty eight what you WANNA do would they lose like three in a Rhode lose that series no loss no no they lost. They lost game. One Lebron hit the game too so I right they want to one both back home <hes> Lebron wedding gate building than they won in game so he had the rare buzzer beater from two not three but he made it from the corner because he was mad. I Love Mad Lebron because then he forgets to be scared and he just shoots it like will you remember didn't win two years ago that game when against Indiana and it hit another against Toronto won't demand hit before you say you know what he clutch yeah in his first fifteen years I think he had three and countless times. He ran from the free. Throw line late in the game. We don't have those. We don't ask them. Jump Zone you who is the worst late game free throw shooter in India history among superstar last shotmaker. Oh Stop Labron stocky so why feel sorry for this guy because I think Frank Vogel is actually a nice guy but they kept showing in the front road the Laker brain trust and I'm looking across and you got rob Pelinka I obviously he was kind of the six man for the fab five but he was Kobe's agents. He thinks he knows basketball in the next guy's Jason Kidd. He's been a head coach. He's pretty good player right yes and then there's Lionel. He's he's been around been had talk Portland Yeah. He's a good player right not Jason Kidd. He's pretty good and then there's this Guy Kurt Rambis. Who's he's a pretty good player for very good team but he's a head coach a couple of times in this league so those guys are all sitting there critiquing when the regular season starts Frank Vogel really he's got no shot you know he's got no shot sorry well? You got Ta Lebron Goose. I you'll be okay yep so Lebron when he needs to really talk to somebody talk basketball. He's going to go right around Frank Vogel to Jason Kid or maybe to Lionel Hollins right leg day well you. Do you know I'm right. You'll love you know I'm right. I'm on the record. You heard it here first. You pretend like you like all the broad is the divas such a drama Queen which you'll love it. Oh He's just going to go right right when he wants to talk basketball. I'M NOT GONNA go to the head coach for Eagles circumvent. He just said he has the highest. I Q in history a basketball beyond Magic Johnson okay because magic is show me lately that I'm not sure it's kind of jordan-esque on known complaining in yet. Jason Kidd has a high basketball like you right so great attracts great shortage of storylines we all <music> Kevin Durant is in Brooklyn now but apparently the nets found out about his decision at the same time. The rest of us did G._M.. Sean Mark says they learned Katie chosen. The next when they saw his instagram post marks added quote wrote. We all got that in real time with you guys. We weren't even sure if we were getting a meeting that night or a telephone conversation with him interesting stuff shannon. How do you explain this explain it like this? He was leaving Golden State. Come hell or high water. It became a book. That's abundantly clear skip now for me. This is very very. I've never heard anything like this. How do you accept skill you go to a job? You don't even know they have opening you. Go interview for the job you you show out here. I just try to think about the jobs. Give you go up to go to work. So who are you this job here. I'll get this. I can't believe this a mad Ed takes a decision like this. Kevin Durant does not interview. He does not meet he does not call one minute warning. Sorry it's becoming you realize their forty plus year you ever heard anything like this. I mean he's like imprinting. So you know everybody WanNa be wooed. <hes> you know they fly. That's True Bay Flying Cross Country Golden State got on the plane the cold the Hampton fire with Steve Kerr go on the plane and boot from San Francisco all the way to the Hamptons six hours to Kevin Durant. Everybody was coming in and meeting Ron when he went through it in two thousand eighteen. He was Chicago in the Knicks pigs in the heat of this Yada. We hear all these meetings taking place wining and dining. Kevin Durant doesn't take a meeting Kevin Durant doesn't call anybody Kevin Iran's puts on instagram. I'm siding with Brooklyn Wow and then did it. Actually forty five minutes ahead of the opening of free agency really does why you can't do tampering how you travel with somebody. You've never had a conversation with skip. How do you tell someone you never got a meeting with? He says I'm coming to you. You We joke about skip. How Lebron knock no magic door yeah but really it's about this? This is unbelievable and lease Lebron talked to magic at least magic within his driveway waiting for the starter the fridge the knocked on the door goes inside Kevin Durant Sonali do none of that. This is what I know. I'm leaving Golden State and I'm going here or I'm going there and what's it became clear that I don't know what transpired to that need unless you're no mixed trying even save face because he didn't give the Brooklyn meeting you gonNa take a little leery about signing with because of the injury. No you weren't <hes> Kevin Durant made it abundantly clear you go into the nets and so you try to say well we were. We you know we were looking at the medical. We couldn't see him. He's Brooklyn without an interview and as they know medical record they didn't even see him so let alone the records this. I've never heard anything. I've never seen anything like this and I'm from the country and ain't never heard this booming. I have never heard or seen anything like this in all my years covering the N._B._A.. And that's because I'm not sure I believe it really there were rumblings. The next day or two after the free agency period opened breath that the in city rival Knicks would file tampering charges against the nets in this day and age the way no room. We're GONNA talk about this later in the show but there are rules that nobody pays any attention to so. I have no idea idea how you could get a tampering charge to stick given the way everybody played free agency cry Yes but I just find it wholly unbelievable. There was no contact of any kind and again Dan this statement that he made that John Marks made you know we found out in real time what you found out realize you're just sitting in your office waiting thinking okay when the clock hits midnight which is actually six eastern right. Ah that then we'RE GONNA call. We'll call his agent say hey could we. Can we schedule a meeting tomorrow. Maybe maybe Tuesday maybe Wednesday could could we maybe just talk on the phone or go to dinner. Carry had worked out details. We'll maybe he had but the reason this is far fetched to me is there were the rumblings in this statement that he made completely clears them of any tampering charges but there are lots of small connections that are actually big connections because there's as an assistant coach named Adam Harrington who sits on the bench with Kenny Atkinson is also considered a player development coach and he spent the fourteen fifteen season with Kevin Durant in Oklahoma City and they grew very close because at that the point he was a doctor and a life coach and I found a quote from him. I'm not sure where this was. I'm just going to quickly read the quote from Adam. Harrington Fourteen fifteen I travel with Kevin anywhere from two to three weeks a month workouts during the season off court what mentoring film breakdown and just doing life together. It's been great so they got really that close right so you've got that connection so you can certainly talk to Adam. What's up? What how does it work? What's Kinney like Rashawn online right? What's what's it feel like and to your point? Kyra was very close to all of the above so just by Osmosis just just by being around him near them. They're going to know enough to know right. He Kevin Durant is a shrewd rude operator. When it comes to business I what he means is that he the head coach general manager owner? Nobody that normally gets meeting with a player. I had a conversation now. Maybe he did talk to that guy and he was able to fill in the blanks but that's Kevin Durant so even if you knew nothing about it he's seven foot tall. He the career twenty seven point. He's a two time M._v._p.. Take any okay now back to your original premise which could be true that he just didn't have any contact because number. One He is out of Golden State and number two. He's just going to go with Kyrie because he loves kyrie right. They are truly best friends and as I told you the day after this went down I said it sounds like Kyrie is the Alpha Alpha in this twosome right right sounds like Katie's like okay. It's the nets where we go yeah. Okay I trust I believe in you okay. Let's go do this but it also smacked Mac I told you of semi-retirement on Kevin's part because he got us to championships and he got us to file A._p.'s and then he knows it got set out a year. Anyway is the worst thing happened you know ruptured Achilles and so he's just saying hey whatever I did all that I just want to be around New York City because we're gonNA move our what's it called thirty five ventures to headquarters in New York and I just want to be in Manhattan in the neighborhood obviously Brooklyn's near enough by that you can live in Manhattan if you want and play in Brooklyn in order to live in Brooklyn Brian Brooklyn and go to Manhattan whenever you need to but the point is it felt like he just kind of threw up his hands and said whatever but this is Kevin Durant. What are we always say boy? He is his own man. Yeah I think the Thanksgiving no one saw all the golden state coming but at least Golden State gotta meeting other teams got meetings with Kevin Durant so at least they were like okay. We did get a meeting. We don't know how it's GonNa turn out but when a guy comes to you that guy comes to you it's not so you know he. He doesn't get up when you get home. He demonstrated eating. That's comfortable. He was signing there. I'm good Kenny Atkinson. I don't eat meat marks. I don't eat meat the the owner of the team. I'm going to Brooke even know you're going to have to live with those people right. Yes they're going to be direct impacts on your life coming up in another year right yes well. You know how it is playing for a franchise. What if you walk in the door and you when you go to Baltimore you don't know anything anything new right right but I met with I met with a Brian I met with Ozzy flew back on the plane with art modell <hes> so I got very comfortable talking to those people skip this this is this is big brother? This is like the empty put everybody in the room together. You have no idea and you gotta make it work but you understand that you're going on a game. Show in this is high works yeah but in real life in basketball you don't WanNa know what kind of system you run. I guess you superstar you are the system. 'cause I can assure you kidding Atkinson. They're not GONNA win. Kevin durant comes back in October of twenty twenty. They're going to run what fits best for Keri K. D.. Whatever that is so what they were running before they won't be running thing that would Kevin durant steps on the court? Yeah and I'm still disappointed in Kevin that he didn't even give passing interest to the Knicks because that's the move to me. That's the legacy move. I'm going to go. There and I'm GonNa fix that no championships championships seventy three I'm going to do that. I wish you'd have that same energy because the legs and move the Lakers. I'M GONNA fix that they hadn't been to the playoffs in six years. Okay that's the purple and gold but you want to go to the clippers okay all right okay but with Kevin he might have had to go it alone. Because then the knicks made it clear they didn't want Kyrie so maybe Kyrie's the one doing all the leg work in the homework and he realizes the Knicks Donnie. They're not interested in me so Kevin were out on the Knicks Right Kevin just accept that why wouldn't Kevin meet with David Viz deal. I'm a big fan of day visit. Why wouldn't you at least sit with him? Maybe he did. Do you know what I think. The thing is for me is that I think once Kevin got injured. It changed thinking lot because I'm not so sure. Had He not been injured. He might have been willing to go it alone now because he understands I'm Kevin Durant injured. I'm away for the game wrote for year. Am I still that same Katie okay. He doesn't know because he's never been down this road before. Okay so if you're Kevin durant wouldn't you at least when you want to sit with James Dolan the owner of the New York no the infamous owner why not why wouldn't you just go. It's it's your life and your legacy. Why wouldn't you just go sit and say explain to me? Why should be nick just to hear what he had to say well he might? I you know what he should Katie should with okay explain to me. Why you had Charleville could do that? Will that will be your first. I like Oak old school so why did you. Why did you all right? I got it but he didn't. I guess give the time of day or night anybody with the net. No Steve Mills the head coach. I love this so do I either unbelievable coat with coach. Okay neither here nor there now. I just have a sneaking suspicion that Kevin Durant had conversations that Sean marks did not acknowledge that maybe he didn't know about or maybe go you know a keep your Tampa indy five hundred thousand and then Adam silver might say we'll see you guys tampered. You'RE GONNA be unable to sign it yeah. I mean that'd be some David Stern type stuff wouldn't do that. 'cause you know David starring heath like when our Minnesota Tampa widow Joe Smith in not only can you not sign him. We're GONNA take three first round draft pick for the next three years and it ruined the timber wolves so maybe he had those conversations skipping Katie's like we need to keep this on the hush because we mess around and get a tampering charge and I'm not going to be decide what you guys then he had what used to be called plausible deniability exact right great not to my recollection to the bathroom ability not that I can recall that is a problem that Adam silver does Wanna fix. He's been talking lately about about making some adjustments to free agency in that process. Our next guest signed with the chiefs back in March in six years in the N._F._l.. He's snagged thirteen career. Interceptions wasn't all pro in two thousand any fifteen and of course he has one of the best nicknames in sports the Honey Badger New Orleans zone `Iran Matthew welcome someone village morning right L._S._U.. Tigers all right. You had a lot of options when making your choice what attracted you to Kansas City chiefs. I thought I had obviously a great time in Houston. <hes> not often really a great opportunity to really come in. <hes> you know beat an elder statesman thing. I'M GONNA older guys on the defense so <hes> I mean that's a change for me. You know coming from Arizona Plan on the Patrick and then spending that year and Houston Planning J._J.. <hes> I think anytime you get the have your own group uh-huh lead your own group Motiva- tone group. I think that's a big challenge. I just wanted to step up you know to that late so before we get into the details of the chiefs and the new completely rebuilt defense go here with me for a second back in my days at E._S._p._N.. I spent a lot of time with Herman Edwards who people probably don't remember once upon a time was an undrafted free agent cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles who made pro bowls because he had something I think that you have and it was knows for football. I used to talk to him about it and he said you can't coach it. You can't teach it but since him and I watched a lot of Herman and he bedeviled my Dallas cowboys many a Sunday really good player player because he was always getting his hands on the ball and when I saw you at L._S._U.. I said a HA. There's another one where you just gifted with it. I can't explain it and I don't know if you can. It seems like you probably had it from pop warner whenever you I played wherever the football is you just anticipated or instinctively and you get there bef- sometimes before the receiver does it. Have you always had that since you're a little kid believe so you know I I played offense a lot growing on a pop warner park ball <hes> and then as high school came out transition to two DB but I missed a miss holding the football and <hes> so I think it's a mindset. Don't think attitude a lot of young kids come up to me today. They asked me how to do it and I'll I just tell them you know I studied anticipate please but at the end of the day I truly want to be a football. Is You know so I think that's really what separates me the nickname honey badger because every time I turn on your L._S._U.. Game it was was you were just all over the field in. Do you think you can do it off film study or is it more in your psyche. I can feel it before they feel it. Yeah I think is more. I think is more mental than anything when a lot against the other safety position and I think you I would rank rake you probably the best they too because you can do something that not many sages can do you can play the whole you can come in the box but I think where you add the most bang for the buck that you covered the slot. Explain the difference in all three because all three of their unique perspective plan that slot that guy can go anywhere on the field. I think that's the toughest visit everybody saying the island but I think it's the slot because he can go across the field. He can go in and out Ingo up the field right. Explain the differences in when you study take. How do you because each guys different that you could possibly going against right? I think I think anytime you plan in the slot you oh you realize that the receiver has a two weeks ago. <hes> most of those guys are primary options if they don't have Julio Jones lining up outside <hes> and I think you know you know play inside. You have to have a real minus of what everybody's doing on defense offensive not only with your responsibility is but you gotTa know what your help is. You GotTa know what the Linebacker they're doing. You GotTa know what you run. FIT is so I think I it takes more. You know surrealness to to really <hes> you know playing the slot versus you know planning a box or you know playing plant high right because they're also trying to rub you off. They tried to rub you into your guy. Rodney often guy rub you off into the official right how do you how do you die that because there's a lot of traffic going on in there but you can't get so caught up like I might run into the back where I might run into a guy. I get big but you still have that guy yeah. Thank you always every time I lined up. You know I always try to take a pre snap. You know splits wide receiver splits. You know running back where he where is he looking at quarterback who's looking at down to down and distance personnel <hes> and I think it kind of helps you jump start on you know what place you could possibly get right and <hes> so I think anytime you play in that position. Obviously you've got you know be dowd then be tuned in and you got to communicate to as well <hes>. I think a lot of people don't realize how much you know the slot corner. No no he has to talk and communicate with linebackers and safeties. How much better will Kansas City's defense be now? I think we'll be a lot better. You better be offense right and I think got a great challenge. Ahead you know and I told our group you know <hes> there's GonNa be a tough hill to climb you know <hes> especially what those guys were last year and <hes> you know they brought myself and Frank Clark in and I think anytime you could bring two guys in that really have a chip on his shoulder edge wjr <hes> a certain personality <hes> you can rub off on a lot of guys in a positive way and I think that's I think that's why he brought me in Kansas City for one <hes> was to really kind of raise the tide of everybody around me and so it's going to be a fun season in and <hes> you know a thing. We can't get caught up with offices. Doing I think most teams played on always been a big brother. You know so it's going to be different. You know being a little brother that's true so obviously that defense in the fourth quarter and overtime over time of the A._F._C. title game at Kansas City Got Brady because he just took the game over as he is want to do. Do you believe if you and frank had been there last year. It would have been different in the fourth quarter and overtime. I like I like to think so. <hes> I think <hes> you know. I think Tom Brady's wonder greatest competitors. You know of all time really <hes> I think he has a great you know mind for what the defense is doing. <hes> whereas receivers are who threw the ball to and coverage <hes> so but I think anytime you could get pressure on them and then you can communicate well in the back end. I think you always get cell phone CHASTA. You did Baking Foxborough the opener last countdown tip you okay I'll take so what is the secret to defeating him. How do you do it? How do you what's the approach that you would take that others aren't able to take you gotta be able to to to really play man a man on a back end yeah <hes> and then you have to find a way to generate pressure <hes> and it's funny because I think the last team that was really able to do that? Was The New York giants <hes> you know maybe ten coordinators with us now so yeah so so <hes> I think are way way put that thing on with the Bronco they like. You said what you you gotta be able to generate a with four man pressure right because you don't want to sacrifice you back in because the more you sacrifice. He'll find the guy on if you can get they they had Marcus Vaughn. Maliki will push collect you gotta get pressure on the interior because if you don't he'll step up so you got to collapse the pocket enforcing me go laterally because he doesn't WanNa throw the ball on the move. He's not like my homeboy. He's not like Air Raja's. You'll get that radio so is is Brady. Does he camouflage better does he does. He tricky with his is better than others. Do I mean I think he's everything you know. You want a quarterback. I've played against them last year in Houston and it was a tight ball game but it just seemed like he knew where his receivers were <hes>. Whenever we're going to be there he he understands every coverage I mean you can't disguise runners and he did not know what you in so that really you have to generate that preparation you gotta lock up on the back end okay so let's talk about a team? I love another team. You played last year at Houston. That would be the Dallas cowboys. Dak Prescott is due to get paid here pretty soon as are several other people including that running back in that wide receiver on that team and how good is Dak Prescott in your eyes where would you how would he rank in your eyes. I think he's a baller. <hes> I got a lot of respect for him. <hes> he asked me to compare them to to pat mahomes and Aaron Rodgers I don't I don't thank you there yet. <hes> but they are I do I do. I do think he's a ballplayer. <hes> and <hes> I think the more weapons that they get around him <hes> the more comfortable he gets in that system <hes>. I think you'll just you know obviously continue to flourish Salaam. I think if you take Zeke Elliott out of the picture I think I think you'll be I think he'll still be a ballplayer. You know I think he'll use his legs more. Thank you'll be more confident and so you remember you saw him. Maybe his worst last year. I think it was game. Five at Houston went when all the way to overtime and finally Sean deandre Hopkins who got loose about forty nine yards and that was it but that did not have a good game but that did not have a number one wideout doubt that game did not have Mark Cooper yet so once Amari arrive they took off they went seven and one down the backside of the season. You didn't have to deal with them so you don't think number one helped him. Become a much better a player absolutely <hes> thank anytime a quarterback has a has a guy that he can trust he can believe in <hes> a guy that he knows can win his match-ups. <hes> I think any quarterback <hes> could really be more confident <hes> and really try to exploit the defense better but you know what the number one is to one yeah yeah. I think you're just going honey. I think Zeke is the thing Zeke is tough things he'd give offense and identity just watch my guys going to be a pro bowl quarterback next year and they're going to win the new over eight name them do their Rajputana ever happened. Aaron Rock didn't know so what happened in really well. He's making his own those words to win the division last year I think Dallas want it and they'd beat Philly twice last year that was after a habit right and evaded. I always have energy. I want to know what energy the Kansas City chiefs are. Have we'll have next year because should they be favored over. Tom Brady's group next year well. I think you know I think the Patriots we know they. They've done such a great job. You know coming up the Super Bowl this year I think naturally they should be the favorite <hes> but <hes> I think I think the chiefs of coming you know I think you know Patrick Mahomes <hes> how he plays just just spending the off season in Kansas Dan city. They've got a young group like I said I wanNA oldest players on the team. which is which is crazy? I think I think we're right where we need to be at in <hes> I think anytime you have a great quarterback and makes things a lot easier for everybody and organ music you win the A._F._C. Championship Egypt game at Foxboro. Do don't okay here. We go well. Thank you so much. Thank you everybody back home. In New Orleans insperity roles in Ezekiel Elliott is going to lead the league in rushing next season at least according to pro football focus they project a rush for over twelve hundred yards Zeke is led the league in rushing and two of his three seasons in the N._F._l.. which also coincides with the cowboys winning Shannon Skins waiting with baited breath on in your answer? Who does this mean Dallas will win the N._F._C. East again? The GBI writing scripts really yeah yeah the N._F._C. East coincide with Zeke Elliot lead the League in Russian okay no but it would it should tell you skip bayless is that everything hinges on Zeke. This is why they're more apt to give Zeke. The contract burst as opposed to giving your guy thirty plus million wrong. Did you know this. He led the League in rushing in twenty sixteen with three hundred and twenty two care. He led the League in rushing last year on three hundred and four cares. Did you know miss one game. In each of those season. He was tenth in the League Russian the year he was suspended ended for six games so their point is there has been a great chance that he would lead the League Russian. All and lab salute led league and Carey's okay. What does that tell you skip bayless <hes> he played the running back is the most violent position and all of the N._F._l.? How many more years you think he's going to be able to carry this work low? I don't want to think about that's not the question to think about it this year right here right now. You know what he's going to lead the league in rushing because it's predic- their the office is predicated on him leading. They only go as far though to one day care that yeah that goes to show you scale Betas whatever everybody comes out here coaches gas me but you'll will listen to me well. Everybody is wrong. You always think I got an axe to grind cowboy. You don't take anything I feel about. If you like just a hater yeah keep I'm just telling you I'm just giving you the facts. This offense is predicated on Zeke in even though he's going to lead the league in Russia which would be the first time <hes> he leaves the League and Russia and they don't win that you take that to your bank that Shit no put it in the drawer really occur no interest in the bank so Jin said I'm waiting with baited breath over here. I'm actually about have to be unabated to your arguments. That's what I'm going to do. Just knock it down sack. Okay okay if Ezekiel Elliott leads the league in rushing again this year. I believe he will bill. My cowboys won't just win the division for a third time in four years they will get to the Super Bowl because finally last year Jerry Jones win out and made the move of the year and got us the missing link. My quarterback Mike quarterback did not have a number one receiver that he had any connection with because to your point hall of Famer you said Dez Bryant was a shell of himself and a disaster that he ran all the wrong routes because he didn't have many to run in the first place in the you're the first to say after that debacle in Denver going back two years ago that they are not on the same page Dez and that creek right right yes so good riddance God bless I'm knocking on wood for him. I hope he recovers and finds a home somewhere that was like well I don't think so because we have our true number one and he has a true deep soul connection with my quarterback and as soon as he at town last year they took off they went seven and one down the backside of the regular season including two wins over your Philadelphia Eagles seven and one and over that stretch silly me I don't know look like that turned into a top five quarterback to me because he was third in completions and he was fourth in the League in yards and he was fourth in completion percentage and he was fifth in air distance distance. Distance thrown balls. He's down the field. We don't need that guy on the screen right now Weiner Eighty nine oh it's about Amari Cooper missing link was Amari Cooper because all of a sudden my quarterback turned into top five so counselor. I have a big question for you. Yes who led the playoffs in rushing last year helped me out. Oh could it be the Super Bowl champion New England patriots so you say well the great quarterbacks don't need. I think Tom Tom Brady does need to run game because he had wondering the playoffs. Can I interest you in this. They averaged one hundred and sixty two yards rushing per game and those three games to leading up to the Super Bowl. Why was that? I don't know that Guy Sony Michelle. He averaged one hundred twelve game in the playoffs that world l like Zeke asks you but my point skill in. Tom Brady's career when he wants he became the Tom Brady that we know how many times how many times did he have. I'll be running back lead the league in rushing well. They do it by committee. They led the playoffs in rushing at work. They didn't do core Dylan won by no committee sixty two game because you got rex burkhead and then you throw in a little James White Little Cordeiro Patterson they got good. If they had a todd Gurley they will need they. Do you do it with one or four you can do accounts both well. All I'm saying is is that there's a reason why they went out and got zeke Elliot when they're when they had <hes> Tony Romo in that office and land okay because they said we're going to run it and we're GONNA protect Tony Demarco Murray who had led the they you know what if we get this young because they had to ran demarco Murray remember they put him to the point of no return that eighteen hundred five yards that he wrote for his last year there with the two thousand fourteen. They ran him in the dirt. Okay so Zeke is going down that you guys are taking him down that way because your <music> if you had a quota we have a really good one. You know what I've never felt so confident in an opinion on this show versus you than the one I'm about to a smudge about spouse. I'm about to a spouse that Dak Prescott is going to have talk five quarterback year this year. He is a writhing because he actually has some help as Lebron would put it so I resent the fact that you just put that Prescott Lebron James and Samson English major I should know better you always put Lebron James and Michael Jordan the same sense and I'm afraid we're going to get struck by lightning. Go happen. That must be not earthquakes. New Hot is arriving because Dak Prescott not only has has Amari cooper but he's got Randall Cobb in the slot which is an upgrade over little measly measly be nothing you said that that had a great connection with measly B.'s you like Muesli Beasley. He liked that being being being being now. Now all of a sudden Beasley go in new talking about Troy Aikman once said he's uncomfortable. That was a couple years ago. I don't know SORTA got started his rap career. You're you're out and we're good we upgrade. We've got Aaron Rodgers favorite target and then the other Guy Devante going back a few years way. Would I mean that was Jordi. I mean rent skill. I'm not trying to rather have some great. Let's see every retaliate against Aaron. Rodgers Randall used to kill me but he's going to help he he been killing you. Wake Me Green Bay being killing you keep taking over air roger against your better judgement and someone that's covered the game been around the game two years. You still do the wrong thing lead at alone so which quarterback last year and the plows had the very best Q._B._R. of all the quarterbacks who played in playoff games who had the best average Q._B._R.. Could it be Dak presumably to gain came but he played played a big game against Russell Wilson and then speaking of running for yards who had the biggest running play of the playoffs for the Dallas Cowboys last year Jabber third and fourth jared Goff know that ATP please offer his third and fourteenth up Seattle. y'All close look. Did you see this. He slayed the seahawks right there. That's it then he took it in. I'm from the one on the next play. There's a running back for you because when you need the running play to be made by the player it's number four not number one. We're number twenty one go when they went to L._A.. I don't know that he must have stayed in Dallas. Maybe what Vegas where's your quarterback the first half first half year pretty good no no gave up. What was it two hundred and some yards rushing and built though but you know you know in football is not make it so we score now? We kick the ball up to you. You get to do whatever you want to do with it but you guys put it back to the rams okay but you understand that the biggest shock in all the playoffs of any team that played any half in the playoff was the Dallas defense going from shutting down the number one rushing team in all pro football Seattle at Dallas the previous week right to giving up two hundred plus yards in the first half to the Los Angeles Rams with again Todd C._J.. The Ham on you drop the hamburger and that was it okay. How'd you come back from that? I don't guess who had the better Q._B._R.. In that game would you believe that my quarterback had an eighty four Q._B._R.. Did Jared Goff's fifty-seven but you're off made the runner the plot of again. How how do you give up what what was it thirty nine run jared goff run for I and it was a killer? If you give my quarterback the ball back we're going to win the ball I mean how many times do you want. Do you want the ball. How do you want the ball for like it was already five with sixty minutes? It was a one score game. Will it be one score game. You had about thirty to twenty to get we we. We believe we know you cut move it so we just we just run the ball three yards into the line and pointing back to you know we knew you do anything so we have the best duo in the league. You think that it's Lebron A._D.. Let's take it up a whole level to Dak and Zeke and you need to go hand in hand because Tom Brady needed his team to lead the playoffs in rushing for him Abba Camaro Sarah Okay you can have them. You can have them over your your door. My my do always expel. No no no no no. You're running back is explosive yeah what happened at Gerry world on a Thursday night late in the year helped me out. I don't know if you guys want I mean is it. I mean I mean think about it is British ten points. They only score ten. We don't think you guys play the issue. Breeze got a big award last night at the S._p.'s but then late night game didn't he throw Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa whoa well he hobo getting the war daddy for what you most overrated quarterback whatever for behind the back passes or no look passes only biscuit. He'd only will get better yeah. You had that guy. I'll be scared if you had him as your quarterback. I'll be trrt your guy homeboy has to get through foxborough to get to the soup and you guys got to get to Aaron. Rodgers gotta get through drew brees J. Golf again wai-kwok. We got the ball you keep talking about. Look the chiefs and the Patriots are not in the same division your team have the B division won't get to. Where are they going? They're going to second in the division. They're going to be I get Z.. How did Dallas beat them twice? Last walk into him was hurt but he's healthy. Now you know what Super Bowl here we come if pro football focus is right and I got a knock on Wood Zeke it could be healthy not gonNA would go anywhere I am not going to be. I'm not going to be in my before whole we did it when no cowboy fan that's not gonNa Happen so the tea leaves or whatever the need would high of. I need to speak pre and every night cowboy nation we got to the N._F._l.. Season is on Anka next up right now. Sky High expectations surround the Eagles goals bring it bring it on out of it love it Carson Wentz hip of course his last two seasons. We all know how those ended with injuries but Wentz has been back in full form for MINICAM offensive Lineman Lane Johnson says he's really <hes> on a different mental state than he's ever been as far as training and ignoring distractions. I see a guy who was about to do some big things this season big talk from the Linemen Shannon. What are you expecting from Carson Wentz? Ah Ma expect and in V._p.. Tight caliber type not an the season just type caliber expect him to the level. He played in week two two year to a level that we know somebody has yet to reach. I'M NOT GONNA call this man because this is not a topic for him. This is about a walking tour skip. I believe two things Carson Wentz last year. I believe that injury the one he suffered. I think week twelve week thirteen and Nick foles skip. I'm coming into a season where I've suffered the most catastrophic injury of my career and I'm also dealing with the backup the guy that was my backup win on this epic journey he he wins the Super Bowl. He's the M._v._p.. Now if he doesn't win the M._V._p.. You know like I got no problem but keep you come on human. He know what just happened. I got injured. I'm injured. Am I going to be me. Take your year because because all of a sudden Carson Carson Wentz they mobile quarterback his legs are big part of what he does. Can I drive the football. Can I get out of harm's way. Can I scrabble with the ball. That's going through his mind. In the back of his mind. Maybe even at the front of his mind looking make fools won the super bowl and I gotta hear skip bayless and a lot of the pundits talk about that. I shouldn't be starting Foale should be started and they're better off with him in the starting lineup <hes> so I think those things played weighed heavily heavily on his mind <hes> you know I've done both of these. I've rehab in an off season and I've trained in the off season. <hes> trust me. You'd rather train the Rehab in normally if you limp into the season you living out of it because you don't get healthy playing tackle football. <music> I can assure you of that but he's healthy. He's one hundred percent healthy. y'All he trouble he trouble he is. I tell you what you know what go ahead go ahead just ran out of the N._F._l.. There's not a lot of ammo Oh to be had the N._F._C. East you went through Dallas last year head going through cans and coming through Gordon with detour north stopping feeling okay first of all I got to take issue with the producers who started off with like four straight highlights of Carson Wentz. Why wouldn't they only touchdown passes against my Dallas cowboys? I have one. I have one question for the producers who won both those games last here. WHO said it was last year? Old Navy was how again have that one and you can have that one. You can have all of these have another John Because you thought the L. You lost twice to the U._k.. From being on the division last year I think Dallas did you will win. You know what get used to that right now because you're not going to. Eh Byron Jones chasing rerun behind. That truck was happening now for my answer to this question would you. I actually feel sorry for Carson win. Almost I almost as much as I'm capable of getting the feeling sorry because he has the weight of the N._F._C. East world on his shoulder pads now and especially the Philly nation world and it is a loud strong world it can be vitriolic world and he is going to be expected to take back over the east the way Nick foles has taken over the last two playoffs because that team road the magic of Nick foles into the last two playoffs in one resulted in a super bowl m._v._p.. Performance by Nick Foles and a championship over Brady and Belichick in last year if Alshon hadn't dropped a pass in New Orleans. I don't know maybe we're talking about. He did it again to Tom. Brady Nick foles. Maybe I don't know so now you throw Nick foles back into a team that at the end of last year had built a shrine in their locker room to the magic man to Nick foles a shrine and he's coming out of an off season in which the philly voice had an expose about how he lacked the leadership that people thought that he was displaying the he's not what he appears to be that he can be a diva and he can rub people inside the locker room and inside the organization the wrong way so it was a bombshell expose he's coming out of that and you gave him back to Sean Jackson. ooh These these explosive receiver in Philly history still one of the best deep threats in all a pro football and he's back back in his old haunt in Philly he loved it and he got pushed out the back door what else they gave you on and twenty eight million some you'll cowboy heaven given their quarterback that you say better all right good so that keeps a little more presentable and they gave him Josh Howard because Jordan because Jordan Howard his first two years in the league went for thirteen hundred yards and eleven hundred yards so so he's a big step in game six feet to twenty five saying it up so now you've got a credible edible running game you may or may not have had much of last year right so what's not added Melik Jackson to the defense. What's not like I mean they're just position? Every time I look up I see a power ranking that has philly around this author so fourth or Fifth Wheel in Dallas always like fifteenth or eighteenth middle of the pack every okay. We're average except that right here right now because the pressure is on poor Carson Wentz in Ivan just read pro football focus ranked offense of lines in Philly has the best offensive line and pro football. You've seen surprise fairly you seem surprised really well okay so now you've got an office of line. You got your running back. You got your wideout deep threat. What is left except you gotta go to you it so division? I division who we are. We Getting T.. Shirts printed really also you've already printed tissue like that. What do they say the N._F._C. East or they're going to say in a super bowl champ N._F._C.? East Champs really okay. I'm glad glad I liked that. I liked watching they watch show fly eagles fly or maybe Cry Eagles cry because I'm still not sold on this guy. I'm not even sure the people who drafted him are completely sold Howie Roseman Damian me you'd be so why because pride before the fall that's what the good books you're. You're all right now. We're talking about your guy right now because he's the guy with the heat on him. I didn't have that kind of heat on North vacation. Thank you Taylor. Hey they already doing keep you on. Thank you the alarm it. The already know break the glass ceiling. They already know he gonNa bump his head and come right back down so with Bob is here and crack through it. Howie Roseman goes home every night puts his head on the pillow and looks up at the ceiling starts staring and blinking thinking? I don't know I'm not sure I'm not sold. I don't know but I can't give up on the guy because we traded up to get him and we put all of this cash C._N._N.. Because we have to look like we believe in we have to prop him up and try to make him re believe anything real. All this is what we know. Skip you're right. They traded up so they have every reason to keep him because they got so much invested in him but you guys got a guy in the fourth round. He won the job he started every game. He's one of the division twice. Why hasn't he gotten his money overachiever overrated so they don't believe him over? They don't believe they don't believe in all I know is I believe in it. Do I park. Would you got your back don't but I believe in him and you know what he's doing okay because they did go getting Amari Cooper mid year last year and all of a sudden a Maurice having the whole off season with Dak Prescott knew. What are we gonNA do about those? What are we gonNA do about seventy yards? He had over the last three games. We'll talk about that with Amari Cooper last three games seventy total yards. How did they go seven and one down the stretch after he arrived he was? I don't know a month to okay interesting except I gave you. The other day we went over Dak was top five in every stat in the last eight games. Every stat and Lindsey was what was number one in every stack. Come the running back okay well. He's on my team Z.. Count do I get to do. I get to use his yards as it like fantasy football. If I don't get to count what I'm just I'm just trying to stay okay well. One guy has a lot of expectations expected and the other guy can just turn around and hand it okay so we added Randall Cobb. Who once upon a time was that guy up in Green Bay's favorite target? I don't know mccaw D._J.. Round the COBB D._J.. I'll take I'll take randall COBB. Every time in the slot for the cowboys need him to do is the new better Cole Beasley. I'll take him. I'll take who you okay tide is. I got like Earth who why Julie just helped her husband. Mr Yeah you guys as a winning advantage Miss Julia. I do have Jason Witten back in the fold back in all leading setting examples hall of fame aim bound yeah first of all between Jason Witten Anzac Guards. Who's the more likely hall of Famer? Who's the more likely hall of fame tight end? He's on a trajectory to get there as well. One hundred hundred sixteen catches broke yoga record it and then we do a very future case ado on that. No I'll take that they got it already. Got Like Levin hundred okay. I'll take that and by the way we did bring back demarcus Marc Lawrence and then we went and got Robert Quinn defense. We Got George I locate safety and all of a sudden. I'm over column He. He's not going to be the other guy. What's the <hes> the safety that we got a case of doom that what did you say to me Xavier? You would know jeff he he that will be on that good but again all this adds up that my guy has actually has a better team between the lines then you're does but nobody's seeing that nobody gets gets it yet and I feel sorrier now that I speak it into existence it feels worse and worse for your guy. He's in a camp win situation. I love how you do it with Japan. How yous doing that circling in how you add things up yeah I'm looking at nine yourself really only nine and seven cowboys not as up? You know what it adds up to Super Bowl here we go. I mean think about how we get to listen to Tom. Brady doesn't we get to I already predicted. We get to lose to Tom Brady and the Super Bowl this the Cincinnati bengals super bowl cowboys that same sound saying to me does well all improbable <hes>. This is going to be very nicely the happen every every quote. I hear out of the Philly Locker Room. He's trying to prop up your guy limpet to a wins because he's always hurt right now this year. They're all trying to prop him up. They're trying to speak him back into existence like he's the leader of our team. What what was the quote he? He's in there every day Rehab and I'm thinking he's rehabbing really training Lane Johnson said he's he's in their early rehabbing. I'm like he's still rehabbing. That's a problem about yoga. You were about your guy. I am not all about my vote a ball down the field like we know we pushed the ball down the field. We don't dump it or by. Throw it to the running back. Will you ain't GonNa tell them they can get done. We have a tidy meal EXAC IRT. y'All tidy and cannot get done the last eight games of the season last year. My Guy had the fifth longest ball ball traveled through air air distance in the League fifth fifth in the League so he wouldn't stink enacted Maury and guess what and still finishing index yeah that's what he does and get to be a better deep threat than to Sean Jackson. It is advantage Michael Gallup. You heard it here. First Book it righted in concrete. New Yup is not going to happen. Those teams have some interesting weapons. We'll see how well can come back from that spinal compression ooh ooh yet weapon that matter and it didn't move shooting and yeah I agree who shoot it. Mr Deer in headlights shoot all North Dakota. You know he'll be game motive sorry.

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Yeah, I Said It: What ifs are for losers

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Yeah, I Said It: What ifs are for losers

"Welcome back to another episode of year. I said it. You're checking out out the program. The first one of the year on January third twenty twenty one. I wish all of you guys a happy New Year. Hopefully you guys brought in the new year safe in sound. Hopefully you had a fantastic new year's Day is well watching New Year's Day Bowl Games and hopefully you are commiserating. You're finished commiserating. Hopefully you've gotten over the depression of the fact that the Pittsburgh steelers will not the in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty playoffs and I WanNa thank you guys also for really supporting supporting us in supporting the show getting us to five thousand subscribers the goal. I think I've set for myself. I've kind of discussed it with Jeff in with others. There's is that I would love that for anybody. Who's on the live chat? If you've never subscribed to the show in your own the live chat that make sure you subscribe to the show that helps us to make sure you like the program the other way that you can contribute to us and help us do this for you and provide the services services you can provide us with the super chat feature to dollar sign on the bottom. If you got a question and you'd WanNa get your question to the top of the queue. Make make sure you hit the dollar sign. I will jump into all those questions before I jump into the topic of this Friday's first of the year episode of Year. I said had it. I want to give a big shout out to Jeff. Hartmann does a fantastic job as the editor of the website behind the curtain dot com also my co host on the standard is the standard and the post game. WanNa give a big shout out to Tony Depth. Theo also WANNA give a big shout out to the Oracle of the website. The oracle the noar of all all things steeler. Dave Scofield also big shot out the bit bros go and last but not least I wanna give a shoutout to hash tag. Mr Two a M. Hashtag Mr just take it Hashtag. Seventies curtains the infamous. Brian Brian Anthony. Who's Bette Davis the topic of this show and when your team doesn't go to the playoffs layoffs a lot of what it's creep into your head so the topic for this Friday's episode of year? I said it is simply. Yeah I said it. What ifs are for losers and when your team doesn't make the playoffs as fans we come up with a list of what ifs and we replay them in our head and we simply say to ourselves us? What if this happened this would have happened? What if this happened? That would have happened. But I want to quote Sallie Gardner. Who said the famous quote you see that? What if our as boundless as the stars and the reason why what ifs are for losers is because when you went in when you get into the what if game? It's what my family used to always say. And I don't know if it's a Manchester thing I'm sure it's not big up to all my family listened to the program. PICK UP THE STEVE BIG UP to all my family. That participates in the program. Listen to the program and contributes and likes and big up to all all my family at Pittsburgh. It's the simple same coulda woulda Shoulda what if puts you into the COULDA you would've Shoulda game and when you play that game that's a losing game that's a losing mentality. You have to operate from the perspective of the positive and you have to take responsibility for your lot in where you are and that's coach Tomlin ulcerative this week. They are eight nate. They finished eight because of themselves. Not because of what if so more jump into a couple of what ifs and Anna posted. I saw from steelersdepot on twitter earlier. This week made me think. Think of this in the fact that what is for are for losers so if you're listing what if get out of that losing mentality get out of that mentality get out of that mentality for twenty twenty start thinking about the positive things steelers can do and the changes is that they can make. It's not a what if game. They didn't do it. There's no such things as what if once the moment passed it's gone take what if it takes should out of your vocabulary when you talk about the Pittsburgh steelers or your personal life. Your aspirations for twenty twenty there are no what is and you can't predict the future literate. Green is right. You're speaking the truth lands. You can't the predictive future. So what if are a factor. He is absolutely right. What are as boundless as the stars in the sky? I let me give you some whatevs. And this is from the tweet from steelersdepot. What if moncrieff catches that pass against the Seattle uh-huh seahawks will let me give you another? What if what? If they don't give up the bomb to McCaffrey lose the game. So would you start to. What if game? There's a thousand other boundless endless what is that you can recall in that game if they made they. It might have one because you know when you had to. What if all it equals is a might? What if what if what if cube equals four? What ifs so Allie Allah Robie said? Yes no what if bin was healthy or Mason. Jason Never got hurt. It's about the future. Absolutely what if don't matter it's about the president and the here and now now that's all water under the bridge and you can't operate on that that's why you don't hear coaches talk about that. They go to the grind and they get in game film. They studied their tendencies and they try to extinct. Let me give you another. What if what if? Connor doesn't fumble well late against the forty niners. Well what if they don't hit him he wouldn't fumble. What if they couldn't score you? They didn't score multiple times. I always think twenty points in that game and they had five turnovers would if they don't give over two hundred yards rushing in that game. Hey that's why I don't get into this. What if game because what when you get into that? What if game it takes takes away from you? Join the critical self examination that you need to do as a football team to get better. What if you executed? You'd made the proper place to not put your team in that situation. What if that S- correct self-correct move on West Hitchcock brought up one? What it all doesn't get called for the roughing the passer asser against the Baltimore? Ravens will what if they didn't give up seventeen points what if they didn't do the wildcat in their negative negative territory in their negative territory and give up a turnover. There are too many. WHAT IFS in? What scenarios because they are boundless as the stars in the sky? You have to focus on correcting you your team. You have to correct your habits your practice habits you have to correct you're disciplined. How you how you deal with ball security how you're going to game plan your program your plan because there's too many what is what ifs are for losers when you get into that mentality of what if what if what the COULDA Shoulda woulda? That's a losing mentality. Bad teams do that in the steelers. Who's right now aren't average team but as a fan base we got to get away from chocolate about what ifs? It's about what up to they. Need to do next to improve as a football team. Let me give you another. What if Juju doesn't fumble in overtime versus the Ravens James? Let me give you another one from this tweet Houghton catches the deep pass against the browns. How this one no red zone John Wildcat versus the bills in the last one is Washington catches the late end zone pass deep against the jets? Because because we're GONNA get in all of these. What ifs you know what I've read defeating there were more creative as play caller? What's up getting bit with Bo? Oh was happening with you. Big Mar thirty four. What if our third and fourth down Stringer's didn't play as well as they did? Our record would probably be worse than the browns. I'm Jillian Weinberger. Who's the impact podcast from? Vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season. We're looking at the big ideas from all the people running for President in twenty twenty hip this opioid crisis head on public option. Move Away from Basel to energy energy efficiency and it's GonNa be a Great Wall and it's going to work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried before like that. Wall trump wants to build the GAL Arizona. Anna had one on its border for decades. I don't understand why individual people have a right to have a offense and yet a country can't Senator Warren's proposal to end the OPIOID crisis it's based on what we did to fight the AIDS epidemic. We would like to name. I'm at the Ryan White Care Act and the green deal. Germany tried something similar in two thousand. This is solution this season on the impact. We have those stories stories. How the big ideas from twenty twenty candidates worked or didn't work in other places or at other times? These are the stories that will help us understand Dan. What might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years? Subscribe to the impact on Apple. PODCAST or your favorite. PODCAST CAST APP to get the first episode on Wednesday January eighth so so you can play this. What if gain a thousand different directions but when you play the what if game? It's merely a cop out. It's a cop out of an average minded in weak minded individuals in teams that will not allow you to prosper. move forward and grow it traps. Perhaps you in the past in doesn't allow you to get to the work that you need to do to change your future. What if they're gone on their the past and that's the beauty of the past is the past is over and if you do the work in examined the past asked you may not make the same mistakes moving forward like Game Theory said what if it's always an easy way Out that's why I'm simply saying what if are for losers and what the steelers have not been over. The course of their history are losers. They have been averaged a last couple of years but I think they are moving in the right direction and I love that coach. Tomlin makes no excuses. He keeps keeps his football team focused on the now and he's GonNa move that team forward and I feel confident. That coach Tom The guy that can do that because he is not going to wallow in the past they don't think about what is because there's nothing thing you can do you cannot replay those moments you can't get back to FELICIA has relation. She's so funny. Said what if Bin What Big Ben wasn't on his cargo diet you know car go to Taco Bell? McDonald's Wendy's act couldn't eat he's good or be ready for twenty twenty. You know like big Sigmar said thirty four in football when you play football you have to have. Amnesia is really an. That's the fascinating thing. When I talked the pros rose and I've had the honor in the good fortune of knowing quite a few guys from cal cal football big up to cal you know it you know the story to the whole darn world is count territory? Michael Bayer's eight and five won their bowl game great year for the staff You know You know it's great. I mean so great but you gotTa have a short memory and ask the pros always talk about. And I'm going to read this. The war from Game Theory. 'cause he knows I'm a hip hop fan. You don't have a hip hop fan. Pick up to the West up to the east big up to all the emcees out there ear and he said the following from corrupt what if corrupt and corrupt from DP from the dog pound. What of corrupt gave a F- about A. B.? He always be broke. Never have no money and no to smoke. Hopefully I got that right game theory. Yeah I think I got that right but yeah to game theory. And to corrupts point outstanding emcee from Philadelphia Pennsylvania from Illinois dealth. Awesome some freestyler You just can't play that game. It's a losing mentality and it keeps you in the past incorrupt is getting adding props from get bit with both big to corrupt big up to dazzling the dog pound DP g gangsters big up to Dr Drey one of the greatest of all all time so as fans. We've gotTA get out of that game. We've gotta get out the wettest but I want to jump into a couple of other topics and topic one. That was reported in the news. I'm sure you guys have seen it recently. I think Alan Santa Model are hall of fame finalists. You know of course us being biased. You know we absolutely believe I have no doubt that the guy right here that I'm holding up right. He goes this. This way. That I'm holding up in the live Chat Troy Paulo Malo number. Forty three USC Guy that's the only thing I can hold it against Troy. Oy But I think I'd just broke. detroi- are on video. The troy arm back going. Yes that was a live chat moment as we do that. But I think we all noted Troy P absolutely should be a first ballot hall of Famer and let me put troy to the side because his arm is messed up. So that means Troy's on I R but I think we absolutely believe steeler. Fans at Troy P. should have been on a on that team that one hundred teen and I think truly Parramatta what apps first ballot hall of Famer now. I'm not sure about Allen Fantasy. I think Alan Santa Cruz should be a hall of Famer. Absolutely I think Allen Santa. I'm not sure that he will get in this time. But I am sure that Allen Santa Claus will get it I mean in my opinion I think he was one of the best guards. During his era I think he was one of the best guards that decade. And I'm not sure somebody tell me you're not on a live chat. was Allen. Fanta voted on the all decade team as the best guard. I'm not sure. But as they call him in Pittsburgh Big Red I think big red absolutely should be in the hall of fame I think he the outstanding player. I'm not sure if he won one or two championships. I know you want one championship. the early one with Ben. Rothlisberger up I don't think he won a second I think he got one ring But when you look at his credentials I mean he was just an outstanding outstanding player. I mean I think he should be in. I mean I know that all of you guys think he should be in. And I'm trying to look for a list of the final and absolutely should be. Because I think he should have gotten in before Allen for Milwaukee from Kevin why I thought he was a better player. Did I hear someone. Employers Steve Atwater. Tony Boselli upping Tony. Boselli will get in. I don't think Isaac Bruce will get in I think John Lynch Will Probably Get in a chore. Palmolive will get in I don't think Richard Seymour will get in so I think he gets in I don't think it's outstanding finalists class. You Got Atwater. But Sally Isaac Bruce Leroy Butler Alan Fanta. Katori Torry Holt. Steve Hutchinson edgerrin James. John Lynch Sam meals for Paula Model. and Richard Seymour. I mean the guards. During that era were Hutchinson Zim. Infanta and I I think Fanta could should get in. I think this is a great class For him to get in I think Reggie g Wayne is also a finalist. If I'm not mistaken But I think he gets in Ala Phallic credentials are second to none. The big red was a fantastic player You know he's not been in the media much you know. I don't know if that's going it to hurt him. This is his fifth. Shot at it. I think he gets it. I think Reggie Wayne in fact is A final let me give you some of his his credentials. Of course he played for the steelers from ninety eight to seven jets in the cardinals. The Super Bowl champion nine time pro bowler six time first team all pro to time second team all pro. He was actually on the two thousands. All decade team. steelers all time team he absolutely is going to get in. He's definitely is going to get it if you're on all decade team and somebody in the live chat will have to tell me Maybe the Oracle will let me know as well but if you're on the all decade team you're going to get into hall of fame 'cause let's listen to the all decade team for the two thousands. Tom Tom Brady Peyton. Manning edgerrin James Dania Tomlinson Marvin Harrison Randy Moss. Tony Gonzales Walter. Jones always Jonathan Ogden. You Got Fantasy Hutchison Kevin Wa. If you look at the Lineman Kevin Y Steve Hutchinson is up ordinary fantasy. You Got Ogden's in Walter Jones in so I think he absolutely is GonNa get it. If you make a all decade team Orlando Pace I believe is in as as well and listeners If you hear the fire alarm in the background that's a part of doing a live chat in this is just the flavor that goes with the program no west. My house is is not burning down. It is absolutely not burning down. But you know when you're doing live stuff you really can't stop. You gotta hope that the fire alarm goes off Ryan Keller. I don't have to stop drop. Enroll maybe I can get troy to stop drop rock and roll he's stopping dropping enrolling. But I really can't get to Another other topic until the fire alarm stuff actually What happens with the? What if the fire alarm went off? It would be less funny that the fire alarm went on while I was actually doing the show. So that's a what if but we always keep it rolling. The fire alarm goes off. What if I dodged the flames lines? I can still keep doing show but in looking at the all decade team. He's going to get in. I mean you look at these. All Decade is in the hall of fame. Selection Committee chose the all decade team. So it's weird that he's not in in the hall of fame. Committee put him on the all decade team. I mean that means you should get in And let me thirty year Tomlinson Harrison Moths Gonzales Jones. Then more why will shields Larry Allen Willie ROAF Orlando Pace. Terrel Owens and those guys at Owens Pace Rothe Allen Shields our second team all decades is so you have Allen Fantasy on the first team all decade decade over Larry Allen and we'll shields they gotta get in. I mean I mean they got. I mean they're gonNA get in he he's going to get in. I mean absolutely. He's going to get it. Let me jump to another topic on the New Year show. Hopefully you guys listen to the standard take. On New Year's we were talking about the running back position and we talked about how binney snail junior are talked about how I think. He gave hisself a a great shot in the arm to be the starter on opening day next year because of the performance against the Ravens. I've thought grand with power. I thought he ran with decisiveness basis. I thought he showed some berkers quickness. Little better lateral quickness but as I listened back to the show I thought to myself I don't know about that and the reason is kind of changing my mind when I'm thinking about Benny Snail being starter is because I'm looking at the rest of love. The starting running backs in the division. You've got Ingram Chop it mixing dare I say the snail is nowhere near any of those guys I can chop let the NFL. In Russian. I mean Ingram believed had over a thousand Joe Mixes a physical Sokaia frequent aside so it you know. Do you really want the fourth best running bat in a division division starting for you that has the physical characteristics of Venus now. I'd almost rather them draft a guy with better physical characteristics. Risks beanies snail. Input that guy in the mix to start you know number one running back physical traits power burst I lateral agility. One Cut. You can run zone run power you know. I think they need a better. Pat Beanie Snail L.. I mean. They've got to upgrade their skill position. So I'm not so certain that Beanie Snell or Benny Snow on beans. Now Pittsburgh stuff that bitty Snell should he should definitely be in the mix right. Maybe you get rid of James Connor in he takes the second-string I string snaps so to speak but I think they absolutely have to find a better running back to start for them. A Guy with the type of physical characteristics of Mixing Chub and Ingram. I mean Ingram Hall of. Excuse me a heisman. Trophy Chubb Abyss demand is the best backer. Nixon was outstanding mixing. Not got into those issues with Oklahoma. I mean who knows they go from having the best running back into the Asian with Mister negative rob to having the worst starting running back into division. And when you have your level of talent at the skill Gil Position Dip so precipitously. That's another reason why you know your your often struggles Andrea Jones absolutely hilarious. I I just yelled at my kid. Who have up mark going on if it was you to Andrea? I'm telling you apologize to your children. Go Get him some frozen yogurt go make him some breakfast or something but Andrea. That is the live chat comet of the year. That is absolutely funny that you yelled at your kids for starting the alarm when it was actually Lee me. But that's what you get when you listen to this show you get real laid back but thinking about skill positions and speaking about the division and there's an assumption that been Albert. Hey Hurry is going to come back in. Be The been of the past now. None of us has a crystal ball. That may not help. I'm older than being. I'm I'm forty. Nine years of age been thirty eight. I'm eleven years. His senior bins. A professional athlete played at the highest level hall of Famer in marketing but bit Albert. Hey Hey hey is not taking care of his body any and I'm worried and the other thing that worries me about bit Albert. Hey Hey is that the steelers have still never really divulged the extent of his injury and have not been transparent whatsoever about his injury status where he is with his rehab or anything. Think we don't know much and as a forty nine year old fat guy. I'm GonNa let you know it's hard when you get older to lose that weight. So the assumption that Abbas Shit of the athletic and others are taking when they're just really flip in their response just just simply saying he'll get the weight off will why couldn't have kept the weight off. I didn't think that your arms affected your legs. You need both connected to five bone your dial both connected to your sutton bone your own balls connected to the bone. The you remember that. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember that little. Maybe was schoolhouse house. Rock I don't know what else you guys might be old enough to to be. We worked at But yeah I mean I just don't no no you know because I you know I'm not convinced I'm not convinced it's going to be that easy. I'm not convinced that he's going to be able to rehab the army time. Drop the weight do all of that. I feel better if he maintained a modicum of shape to wear. We're getting back in shape. Wasn't part of the Rehab. I mean this guy's thirty eight. I mean you know. Perception is everything. It's like when you go into a job interview. You're going with your shirt untucked as some Jay's in a blunt. I mean you don't do that so I'm just saying the perception he's given to the fan base. Is He's fat. Hey Hey hey elbert. Lazy Lazy and out of shape. I want to jump into the first super chatter. Your big up Grayson Brown has hacked the hater being happy new year. Land I think Ben the been investment is passed contract hurts the team. His elbow drop his performance significance. Significantly efficiently be ready. steeler nation been will not save the steelers next year. I don't know if you're quite off. Abby liked to say that you're off but when you look at bands contract and we talked about it a little bit on Wednesdays the standard of the standard on New Year New Year's Day His cap number for this year is thirty. Three point five million dollars his cap it for next year is thirty one point five. He is taking up currently seventeen percent of the steelers salary cap gap if they were cut him pre June first. There will be a dead money cap. Charge of twenty five million they would get eight point. five million in savings if they were to cut him post June I. I don't know if they don't have that here. Let me see see if I can give you the post June. I if they cut him post Gills. I they just have preaching I here so let's get back to the been numbers when you look at the been numbers. If they were to move on from him it would be next year. Twenty twenty the one where his dead money charged is twelve point. Five is cap. Savings is nineteen million. That's the year ear and he would be thirty nine years old. That would be the last year of the deal if Ben Rothlisberger and mark the tape appear if Ben Rothlisberger does not play well next season twenty. Twenty twenty twenty one season and he will be cut in twenty twenty one. They will move on from him and they will get the cap savings and that leads me to my point. I think they need to draft a quarterback. I'm not convinced that Mason Rudolph is the future quarterback and Devlin. Doug Hodges and I was thinking to myself will Devlin. Doug Hodges be remembered I think he will be remembered as I think it'll. It'll be a pot in a positive light that he had a great story. He did the best that he could with what he is what he had and he wants him games. Should've Pittsburgh steelers. I think he'll be remembered in a positive light as a gritty guy that did his best gap them some wins and just you know He. I'll oh kiss covered so to speak and I think he will be remembered favorably for the steelers and I'm talking about this in a sentimental tone because I think unfortunately I think he played itself off the roster faceless man said Hey Lance I think Gilmore wind defensive player year but considering Gilmore's have bad games this year and TJ has not. I think he should you get it. Teacher is not going to get it because the steelers didn't make the playoffs if the steelers that made the playoffs. TJ would get it because the success of the steelers getting to the playoffs with largely rested on on the shoulders of the of the defense. He's not going to get it although I think he is a he's GonNa be you know he's going to get a lot of votes he'll finished number two but I don't think he's going to get it because they're not a playoff team. And I think you have to reward a team that has been successful and so when you know the future quarterback position a reason. I'm talking about drafting quarterback. Is You look at the division Baker Mayfield number-one pick struggled this year. But I think he has traits could traits is the number one overall pick. The march accident is going to be the MVP VP in Barrow from LSU is going to be the overall number one pick. So you're going to have it. It is where you're going to have to number one overall picks ended vision starring at quarterback for teams. And you're GONNA have the MVP jets deposed against a guy. Ben Albert a hey. Hey who's thirty eight coming off a repaired elbow and you've got Mason. Rudolph Devon Dot hydrogen in your building as your other two quarterback with axon enrich dare. I say they need to draft a quarterback. They need to find their quarterback of the future. Because if you're division has found their quarterback the future a you don't have one your ass in trouble the last thing that I want to jump into before I jump into the live chat. If you got me live chat. What questions getting Super Tag question super chat hit me with a super chat like my guy like my guys a hater? Hit me like him Grayson Brown it's super chat now jumper that last but not least I kind of want to jump into the playoffs. Talk a little bit of the playoffs. faces manage right Gilmore gap destroyed in that Miami Game I don't know. Aj Brown's GonNa have a field day but let's talk about the playoff. Let's talk about that. Titans versus pats. That's game. I really WANNA pick the titans in this game but I looked historical stats and and I'm not a historical stag guy but when you look at the historical stats of Ryan. Tannehill in Foxborough is hard to pick New England but the weather is supposed to be absolutely horrendous. Tom Brady is not the same guy. That offense is not the same. The Patriots have struggled playing against teams. That have ex patriot. Guys as their their head coaches just recently Miami. The Titans Dump dump truck them last year. I think take this game. Goes down to the wire scored at Man. I picked the titans titans in upset. I don't believe the Patriots offense. I think the defense defense has become leaky. The only questions Ryan Tannehill. It's Ryan Tannehill. Can Ryan Tannehill make enough plays because I think the titans can hold. Oh down. Patriot offense that Patriot. Offense is not very good. I'm going with the upset. I'm picking titans any other. AFC AFC match up for wild card weekend. We got the bills versus the Texans. That bills defense is absolutely for show. It's it's for real it's for show is for real. It's all that it ain't going to be enough but I think it's going to be a tough game. They don't get hit with bit replace. I like white versus Hopkins Outstanding Today. This white the outstanding corners the Andre Hopkins. I like that matchup. I think they're gonNA play great off great on defense side of the ball. The only issue is Josh Allen at times his accuracy is so bad he could hit the side of a barn. Aren't I just not convinced that he could do it on the road. I think it's GonNa be a tough game though. I think it'll be decided by you. Know five points points or less but I would go with the Texans. I think the saints beat the Vikings The saints. The saints are better than the Vikings I think in every Facet of the game including coaching. I think the difference between the quarterbacks is just astronomical and try to beat the saints in the Dome I I mean you're gonNA need the NFL to make the worst Pi call in history for you to beat the saints in the down. I think the saints are going to dump truck the Vikings the Dome and last but not least. I don't think the eagles are afoot. Good football team I think the NFC east was absolute trash. This year. I think. Russell Wilson is the best player on the field and I think the seahawks are going to get it done so those are my pets. I'm going with the titans. He's the Texans the saints and the Seahawks but let me before we get off this show before we complete the program Go through the super chat or the live chat and see if there's any questions that I wanna hit and if not we're going to go ahead and Complete complete the program getting dent with boats at watch. Henry have like twenty EPA yards. Michael o'malley called me a flip. Flopper d'Ici she treats. Rain is over Go back into a couple of your questions here. Looks like there's not too many questions but yeah every bottom line what if for losers you can't make what if you want to be successful in your personal life and as an organization or football team. I'm glad the Pittsburgh steelers don't operate in that world. So I know that coke. Tom Is the guy to move them forward to their future. There's no such things as what is or could've should've would've you gotta just deal with the president move forward self analyze self reflect. Move for and get better but with that we are conclude the program and and it's always tuning tele friend and subscribe.

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HR AUDIT THAT'S BAMBI DOT com slash. Get up spell Bambi B. BE A. M. B. E. dot com slash. Get up. Go morning it is time to get up with. Two of the news is good and the races. This is on. We'll tell you exactly what it will take to get this potential superstar in the draft. Plus speaking of superstars. Wait until you hear what one legend has to say about this. What and what it means for him in the next few weeks plus often easy night at the office do the Lakers and Lebron face a decision he absolutely does not want to make thank will answer those questions and plenty as we get up with you starting right now live and delighted to welcome? Jeff Darlington back. It's been a long time since we've seen this. It's good to have you here punch to get into their. And oh by the way. One of our major sports is considered to completely rip up the way conducted season pen start all over again. We'll get to buster on that but I start with you. Let's run the hurry up and go through some of the big quarterback questions around the sport of football. Where are we on that Preska? It's not going Great Greenie. It feels almost as if debt prescott wants to be a free agent at this point which sounds unfathomable to a Lotta people but right now. We're talking about if they don't get their offer per up to Russell Wilson money not a penny less. I don't see this happening before the deadline. Of course things certainly changed fast but right now it does not feel like all love the tree doc in the cowboys and that brings us to Tom. Brady where do we stand as far as he's concerned. Well I heard what you said yesterday. Greenie about the fact that Tom Brady thinks that he knows where he's going rolling and I have to say I don't agree at this point. In fact I know that he doesn't question becomes. What is this free agency tool going to look like I can tell you this much? He does not expect it to be Peyton manning thing where he's running out in helicopters kissing babies and trying to figure out exactly where he belongs. I think this will be quick and concise but I will say it's not done yet all right and that brings us us to a future star. At least we all hope. And that's to Tonga. Vilo where are we there. We're getting very good reports on where his hip stands right now but that not necessarily coming from teams James The medicals from teams. What's going to matter most here and I think that once we get those will know exactly where he stands but we really should watch that Detroit pick at number three overall that we're a lot of people think potentially to land we're GONNA hear Ad Nauseam Dot Detroit pick is four sale because a lot of people are going to try to say the dot that is where he'll go but there's a lot of draft consequence in that as well which I wanna get to an image bullets start with our president to a correspondent? Here is Laura Rutledge. What can can you fill us in on as far as the medical test? We've got back yesterday. Yeah he's doing really well in in the fracture fully healed which I think is the really important part with his hip injury. Wanted to see. See that just really be. Structurally where they wanted to be for the further health of to it and you know to go back to what's consistently been said by the doctors who were very close to this. He's been ahead of scheduled through all of this and also is in a scenario where he's doing fantastic and he knows words have been used so now we're at the point reconsidering more athletic based Rehab instead instead of just the General Rehab for this hip. It's a huge step in the right direction. For to Bobby we all understand that what this is ultimately going to come down to someone being willing to risk their job job on his health if you were doing I'm making you the general manager of an NFL team. Are you willing to trade up to three. Which Darlington and everyone is going to tell you? You're going to need to do to get him to trade draft capital to move up to take that guy with his history. He's got tremendous upside and everybody looks at this before the season he was supposed to be the guy. I cannot get it over the fact that he has had to ankle surgeries and a hip surgery. And you know none of these things really seem to be related grades. So I'm not saying that he's going to have another issue with his. Thank aures hips going to give a prop. It may be something completely unrelated and that is the biggest problem to me. He's immensely talented. I think he has a bigger upside with Joe Borough but I'm just worry we'll we ever get to see the peak of that upside given his injury history. I am very interested to see the chargers. Do if they're willing to go from six to three you go get them. All I keep hearing about is the reason that Philip rivers is no longer with. The chargers is because Anthony. Lynn wants guy with escape ability. He wants mobility. He wants everything. Everything is this feels like the spot. If the chargers can go from six to three. That's what we should be watching as the tractors closer bobby. I think it's important when you look at his injury history. All those injuries have happened because he wouldn't throw the ball away. He was trying to scramble around. Make play one of the things that he said to me when I spoke to him recently is that something. He's going to work on right now. We're going to have to see it in action. And that's something that I imagine when he's talking to these teams they're going to want to be assured that also the the main thing that these doctors are going to be looking at from the NFL standpoint mean is could he reinjured hip in the same way. That was an an injury that happens in car accidents. fluky thing that doesn't usually happen in football everybody. He loves extending the play. They love the quarterback running around and third down your by sometime Greenie a pickup. That third nate the problem. is you take a ton of shots. We saw Pat Mahomes. Who did as well as anybody anybody? He missed time this year. I want to ask you a few other questions about the draft because it clearly the pressure point becomes three which which begs the question question. Does someone decide to jump all the way up to two and is there any way. Washington could be talked out of moving or talked into moving out of that spot. We're chase young six. We will get to that as the morning continues but first Tom Brady. Yeah why not Tom. Brady's doing something he hasn't done before. Exploring the possibility of leading the New England patriots recently. TMZ Hall Tame quarterback Brett Farve. About how good Brady is entering his twenty first season. Here's what Forbes said quote. I hear a lot of stole called experts. Say His age is catching up up with them. I don't see that. I see a quarterback. Still doing what he does but the cast around him was not up to par. I think his name is as good as it's ever been so wohlfarth so far may not see regression. Tom Brady's game. Last season's numbers pay a slightly different picture. His fifty three point seven total. QBR was his worst in a season since the metric beginning in two thousand six and it forty two years of age his status as a top tier signal. Caller is certainly up in the air. You could blame that on those weapons pens or lack thereof around him but do you think that Brady's still performing at the same elite level maybe not quite the same level but I believe it's been a very small drop of the last four or five years. He he did not have somebody that can consistently win and one on one coverage and they didn't have anyone else to CA- Garner double coverage and so because of that there was really nowhere to go with the football. They had offensive offensive line issues and I don't think I'm breaking news here. Tom Brady not the most mobile guy in the world drive. Get Him off his spot. You get him moving. I think that caused some of the inaccuracies were looking. It's some of the drops and it's just a situation here where you know what. Maybe he's not quite as good but the numbers. Don't tell the whole story. He is not an average quarterback. I think twenty second. QBR The league. That is not him by any stretch. Listen I'll take it a step farther if we lived in a parallel perpendicular university in which Antonio Brown down play the entire season New England. Are you willing to bet. They wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl this year. Because I'm not. They almost beat the Kansas City chiefs. They were a couple of fifty fifty calls from replays. He's away from beating the team. That won the Super Bowl so listen I'm not going to sit here and say that if he didn't he wouldn't have been at that elite level once again taking a step further further. Not only that Josh Gordon married Thomas Grog. They never replaced the tight end. If you look at the first two three weeks of the season to your point nobody was saying Tom Brady has fallen off if we were talking about the potential historic season. Tom Brady when they got muhammed. So we were talking about whether they would go sixteen an hour and then he got hurt and he hurt his ankle and it didn't work workout. The the one thing I'd also point out when you look at the internal criticism of Tom Brady if you hear what they say privately. It's about the fact that this season he was too risk adverse. He was too too afraid necessarily to throw a pass that might get picked off. That's not talking about age. That's not talking about Burma. Who is they? I know you can't say that but my my my point is the they need to shut up because I agree vegas. God's honest truth of it is. They depended every other team that has ever won with a quarterback of his age has done it by helping by carrying him. They depended more on him this year than they ever have before. And some of the draft picks are just terrible. They took an Akil Harry ahead of all superstar receivers. You put Deebo Samuel One of those guys on this team it would have looked totally different and look. I obviously see where people on this table. Stand when it comes to this but when we look at what Tom Brady. We did two years ago when they were also saying that. He wasn't a top ten quarterback anymore. They know who I'm talking about this. That's a situation where Tom Tom Brady proved them wrong. And I believe that he is capable of doing it again. And you mentioned throwaways that became the issue like if the biggest problem with your quarterback is. He's not aggressive enough to push the ball. They're good on the Tampa Bay. Talk to Jimmy Johnson. He'll be the guy green he'll bring anywhere. He might throw thirty touchdowns but he's going to give you thirty interceptions they had the best defense in the NFL. Another one of them. Tom Brady was playing to exactly what they had to. They suggesting should be thrown fifty fifty balls to guys who don't catch the ball when they're wide open. Well here's the thing. I think. This is the reason that we're having in the conversation about Tom. Brady potentially the Patriots. It does not feel like both of them are aligned in terms of what they can still do. I tell you I mean I think that's fascinating to me and then and one of the possibilities that seemed to come up in this and I'm not sure where but I mean we have you here so let's do it one of the possibilities. That seems to have arisen as Brady goes out there and tries to figure out what the next step is going to be. We hear about the chargers because there's an obvious reason why they might be interested. We hear about the raiders. If you other places where did the cowboys come into all this Michael Irvin all of a sudden is talking about the cowboys and that sort of set twitter on fire for a little while. I mean I think well when we look at I think we should. Maybe I don't WanNa say dismiss because I have the utmost respect for Michael Urban but I don't think that that's necessarily coming from the cowboys organization in terms of their interest in Tom. Brady at this point though. If we do look at Dak Prescott situation he should be careful careful because this leverage might have just fallen in the lap of the cowboys all of a sudden they can say hey. Maybe we do go get Tom Brady. We have him for two years. If we're going to pay top dollar for a a quarterback why don't we get the guy that we know can win a super bowl as opposed to a guy who has gotten us into the playoffs but not beyond. Let's ask the question this way to everyone at the table. If your if your sole goal if you're Jerry Jones is to win the Super Bowl Nastier at this one coming season and you're not concerned about anything else else. Do you have a better chance to win. Get with that Prescott Tom Brady. I'M GONNA go with the guy who has the proven postseason track record and Tom Brady. The guy's been denied super bowls. He's won six of them. Dallas hasn't done anything in the face because it doesn't feel good. We're talking about one off Jerry Jones. It's what's the super bowl going to look like next year. The long term play obviously please Dak Prescott or down my vodka. cranberry out have a little conversation. Trying to figure this thing out but I think in one year isolation. You can look at Tom Brady these. They're gonNA throw up guys. Potentially Philip rivers or something like that a veteran guys who maybe has a little more experience. I know that it doesn't feel good. But that's awesome lover up on this. Prescott is the heartbeat of that clubhouse I mean he clubhouse locker room he's the guy that everybody rallies around like they can't get rid of Dak Prescott but here's my question to you. Is that Prescott. Like maybe interested in being a free agent here I mean I know that it certainly feels like it and the conversations that I've had he. He is perfectly willing to go into free agency. Now there's going to be. I rolls on both sides of the job being willing to. They're going to leverage their leverage with Tom. It's leverage all over the place. I'm just telling you right now. That Prescott is looking at this situation saying if I don't get a penny if I'd have to get the same amount or more than Russell. Wilson got which the cowboys are saying. Absolutely absolutely no Way Jack saying do the free agency thing like her cousins. That is a scary thing to do. Because that kirk cousins situation was a unicorn no quarterbacks no quarterbacks ever replay on franchise tags only kirk cousins and he didn't end up there and he played on two of them so they don't get a deal done. I think they're putting on behind the scenes. Everything has been in sort of friendly publicly behind the scenes. They're acrimony in the situation between the cowboys and back Preska getting there and they love doc doc is the most one of the most lovable figures in the NFL. But if it keeps going down this street and we're talking about tax representatives now not just act it could get messier as free agents. I just remember though the Zeki got pretty. He's in Kabul posturing on both sides and then all of a sudden Jerry's giving him a hug and he's favorite guy in the world once it all gets done so this thing can be put in the rear view mirror as soon as the deal totally signed the answer is always go to Kabul. Let's talk about drew brees and what might happen for his NFL future because a lot of people wondering who will be the Saints Week. One starting quarterback his fourth in doubt. Because he says that you'll either retire or go back to the saints. Will it be briefed Teddy Bridgewater or tasting hill our NFL experts offered there for Dixon's this week interesting for the Saints Right now. Their quarterback death tar is filled with uncertainty as they had no players players under contract for twenty twenty. So who will it be our panel see either drew brees coming back risk fifteenth season in the big easy or the reigns being handed over to the fourth year playmaker taste and Hill. Which means you don't see Teddy Bridgewater for anywhere in there? A lot of people of course think that he could be a guy in this crazy Free agent Market here for quarterback one of the guys that said Tastes Hill. Is Dan Graziano. Why do you think that hill might be the starting quarterback for the saints next year? I've been sitting sitting there making my feelings clear for a while on January February predictions which are old crazy guesses my understanding coming out of Miami last week. The Super Bowl. Two weeks go whenever it was Was that drew brees seriously considering retirement that it's a possibility that he hangs it up. And if that's the case if he doesn't then then he's the answer answer. He's saints starting quarterback but if he does retire the saints have to make a decision. Do a sign Teddy Bridgewater. Who's going to be an unrestricted free agent at significant cost or or do they turn it over to taste some hills? A Guy who's obviously his role in the offense has been expanding they see him as someone who could be a quarterback for them into the future. I'm not entirely sure where that perspective comes from considering this guy's GonNa actually turn thirty before the season starts and he hasn't thrown very many. NFL passes but he someone that Sean Payton in the saints believe even at least in his potential long term so I thought it was a fair guess given what I know about the situation. which is that? It's a possibility breeze retires. And it's a possibility at some point that they will take some hill as their starting quarterback just interesting quickly because bridgewater has been there and bridgewater is certainly traditionally at least the far more polished quarterback who has a track record of success and started this past year when brees was hurt. But I'm not discounting but it sounds like you don't believe leave. That's the direction they would go with. BREES retires it's entirely possible of course Greenie but in terms of making this prediction. My thought process on bridgewater was that he's going to be a free agent. He's going to get other offers. Possibly for more money than the saints are willing to spend and possibly in situations where he wouldn't have to be looking over his shoulder at tastes him hill. All as a guy that gets more involved in the offensive things go along so again. We're speculating we're guessing. Were imagining what's going on in people's heads. It's a lot of fun but that's sort of the logic I used in trying to execute this particular exercise. Well done. Dan always a pleasure. Thank you my man. Bobby loves it. Hasten Hill Tasing Hill drew brees married together. That's what I see going forward facing views himself as a starting quarterback as a franchise quarterback he also been in the same vein. Says I I love playing with drew brees and hope to continue doing that moving forward and so I think what Sean Payton is trying to do was get another year out of drew. Can I get the leadership. Can I get the accuracy and all the experience but then can I also get the dynamic running in hopefully kind of groom this guy into a situation where you know what. Maybe it's a seventy thirty split so we can kind of manage drew's throughout the season and then ultimately conceded Peyton hill the next year if drew brees retires. I do continue to believe that. That is a possibility I think the teddy bridgewater will be the starter weep. One that said if drew doesn't Ted he's gone tastes and backs up. They're deathly afraid of losing. Tastes them. I think they'll put a first round tender on them. They do not want to lose it but that doesn't make he commenced that he'll be the week one starter in two thousand twenty tastes. Him Hill is a fascinating sort of really here in the NFL. It's Hembo point on the screen. He has thrown fifteen passes in his NFL NFL career and he'll be thirty years wouldn't next season starts. We have a lot of football in the hopper today. We got a lot of baseball in the hopper today but let's get to the NBA. Yea Sean. Farnum the Lakers last night taken on the sons. And let's talk about Lebron James Halibut. This past watch Lebron with this dish year outlook for Casey P unbelievable ability to get his head up and find players out in transition and the open floor. This team eighteen once and they know that when Lebron has the ball in his hands he can make something positive and not the only guy in the team we can throw some passes. How about that from Danny Green that somebody might want to defend? The Anthony Davis on an out of balance underneath though to say third quarter. Lakers rep seven more. Lebron fancy passing to a D. SO quick out of his hands his playmaking ability is what makes separates him from everybody else in the League. Okay now I just want you to watch him on. This play forgot about where the ball goes and just watch lebrons elbow. That's not a good looking moment. There and and asks the kind of thing we find ourselves concerned about and he obviously was concerned shakes out stays in the game and obviously he's okay. It certainly doesn't seem to affect his touch because the password asteroid here just on a time I mean to have it continues to blow me away when you watch him play but he's leading the NBA in assists this season. And just how how his vision and ability to separate and make the players around him better. Oh by the way you can also do that. He was three of six from beyond the ARC. Seventeen point nine assists eight rebounds for Lebron last night it was also also a night in a blowout that belonged to Rajon. Rondo look as though Rhonda Rondo three points. A season high and the Lakers. Where then easy win over the sons and Rondo looked? He's not asked to carry a heavy offensive. Load very much for this team. And that's the good news but when he does the success here's really follows their thirteen in one this year when he scores in double digits is twenty three points last night. We're a season high but we have this moment last night. Where you see Lebron shaking out the elbow oboe and everyone's heart sort of stops and you think to yourself Ono and it does beg the question because it's something that we talked about yesterday? After our show is they're going to come a point in the season. And there's there's nothing in the world. I hate more than load management. Where the Lakers? Who are so reliant on this aging immortal that they have to start considering that yes yes and I know he doesn't want to publicly come out and said I don't want to what you want and what you may get are two very different things? At least that's what my parents tell me when I was growing or not. You're looking at a player. That is only Karl Malone and Kareem abdul-jabbar play more minutes than Lebron James has in his NBA career in moving. The postseason is it. He's played four hundred and fifty five more minutes than Kawhi. Leonard has this year. The goal isn't simply for the Lakers organization to have a win the best record in the regular season the goal is to have a parade in late June celebrated in world championship win. Is that point. When do they need to start talking about that? After the All star break and you start looking here and going okay. We're in a good position here. Does it matter. If you're playing the clippers or the Lakers and they're both inside the it doesn't really matter what matters is is your health and being ready to go for the stretch run. Not just for him but also for Anthony Davis but I like so much about Lebron. He said if he's healthy but don't you want to see him unhealthy in the postseason. Yes and if I thought those things were mutually exclusive than I would agree with you but I somehow we have moved into a world where that's the case. It's the second time I'm going to say. But it's a perpendicular universe. We suddenly live in this time in the NBA. All right we got more football to get to here as our morning continues if Tom Brady. Were to leave the Patriots the Domino comino effect it would have on the rest of the. NFL could be fascinating. We'll play quarterback musical chairs as we continue in Zion could be the NBA's MVP and not for his offense will show you why that's coming up. You're watching Guetta art. Espn how do you judge someone. Not by what they say by what they do. We're a nation of doers. What's might Bloomberg about doing things? A middle middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg Built Global News and information business from scratch mayor of diverse progressive city. Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven. 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And Hembo has called out Bob Carpenter and the look of agony on the face of Bobby tells the story who is the only quarterback to start the Super Bowl for both the AFC end and NFC. T I'm going to go way back here and I don't know if you've ever made it is but I know they want wants to the colts and maybe they flipped over Johnny Unites. That's not a bad guess. It's not right. It's not a bad guessed. The answer is Craig Morton who who is a largely forgotten from a very important. He started for the cowboys. And for the broncos in the seventies let the record show I got this right because because while all these other people here. We're learning how to play football. I was just reading about it so I was well aware of Craig Morton back in the day. Okay let's move onto something that we do real well and that is recklessly speculate about what may happen next. Might Tom Brady go to win. NFC let's find out he's been linked with a bunch of different teams including the raiders. Here's the chargers. The titans and of course a return to the Patriots remains a possibility right now to sort of read the tea leaves. I suppose almost everything is on the table so Darlington I'm GONNA do. God is going to get me in trouble. I'm asking you purely to read. I don't want to send the bottom line. I just want reckless speculation. It's a thin in line between the two. Do you expect Brady to leave New England. Yes okay fair enough. And if he leaves what do you. Think is the likeliest most likely. It's that's all. I'm asking for likeliest on so nervous right if I'm handicapping this right now. I say the Titans And the raiders are his most likely to destinations. I say then. The Patriots are in this like second-place spot and then third workplace as sort of outlines. I'd say chargers and dolphins so those are my five destinations. I do not believe he will end up at any other place other than those five. Despite the fact that we just spent a segment talking about the cowboys What's interesting with? That is when you talk about it. Obviously the titans his former teammate. Mike Gable a lot of good things flying ten hill expiring contract. Thank you what they do within. They've got a really good roster in the AFC which some guys like you know to keep the continuity within the conference because they know a lot of the teams on their way there. Interestingly though with the Raiders Jon gruden ridden. His favorite quarterback is always the next quarterback. And if you'll get the guys he said success with Rich Gannon on Super Bowl Jeff Garcia or one of the Super Bowl Brad Johnson and then he had Jeff Garcia later in his career so he always loves those veteran guys and Tom Brady would definitely check that box. And I firmly believe that I think the raiders interest is very real by the way in. Tom Brady very real question. Becomes then is that a place where Tom wants the land and you go down the list of things and it does check a lot of boxes. You mentioned Gruden. GRUDEN is the guy. The Brady believes that he can collaborate with and that is going to be an important factor for. He doesn't WanNa just go in and have the coach trip game plan in March him out there. He wants to be a part of that game. Tom Lake Spiders C. Y. Banana. I think he's a business green. Because that will be getting a lot of that the question then becomes as Vegas you know destination for his family and you look at Nashville would be a wonderful place for his family. These are all factors by the way. Of course that are going to be taken into account. I realize this is unfair but in our reckless speculation in here. Let's just continue it on. Where would you rate the consideration for the family against his want to win another super bowl or get like where are these other organizations? It's important when when they for instance sold their house in Boston. A lot of people said that meant the end for the Patriots. What I didn't mean was not the end for the Patriots? It meant that it allowed him the freedom to go wherever you wanted for instance I can tell you right now. The rumor or belief that he bought a house in Greenwich. And that was. We're we're trying to is not true. It's not true it didn't shop there. He didn't buy their. He's not in Greenwich. So take that out of your mind right now. He is the freedom to go wherever he wants and he has supportive family as he approaches that mindset. I think it will play into it but there are probably six to seven other factors that also will all right and then begins like a a quarterback carousel. And we'RE GONNA have game aquatic musical chairs this off season because it puts the Patriots job in play. If he goes to the raiders it puts Derek Carr a play if he goes to the titans of puts Ryan Tannehill in play. So where do those guys all wind up sitting down. Do you know what I can't get past the idea that those two guys if either Derek Carr Ryan tannehill sprung free that they wouldn't fit perfectly in New England put an end to our weird tariff L.. I could see Ryan Tannehill. Anthill thrive and he's a soldier who play really well under bill belichick. I see that happening. That said the titans also should be careful of course because Ryan Tannehill runs the play action very well which the practice did so effectively this year is. He a better fit there than Tom Brady. Is Looking Titans office so you said there's a lot of movement in it and Tom Brady at this point his career the most mobile guy in the world so some stretches zones the play action the boots you would have to significantly change the game plan. Not that they wouldn't for Tom. Brady time change it. They were pretty darn good last year. Though fight of everything else is GonNa leave me. Yeah I mean I love it Ryan Tannehill. Though he had a better year than most people were paying attention to and and I think some of it got buried because they ran the ball so effectively in the playoffs forgot. How will he threw the ball to get them there in the first place absolutely? It was one of the underrated storylines. I guess. There's a lot there obviously. We're recklessly speculating. But it is a fascinating and and this is stuff that's happening as we speak this decision. Get made with just a a few weeks. Of course meanwhile enormous potential news from the world of baseball. ESPN is confirmed reporting in the New York. Post that baseball is considering making would be seismic changes to its postseason structure which would include increasing the number of playoff teams from ten to fourteen. And get this having division winners choose their opponents in an expanded wildcard round right some of these changes so instead of five teams getting in from each league. It would be seven Evan. Three division winners in four wildcards the best team in each league would get a first round bye with the two remaining division winners and the best wildcard team hosting every game of a best of three opening-round series and maybe most interesting evolve. Teams will get to choose who they want to play. The Division winner with the best record picks I and so on down on the line until the matchups are set for more on this. Let's go down to Tampa where buster only is standing by buster. Obviously this is some enormous stuff. Stop here and break down a little bit for the fans who were just reading it casually some of the most important pieces of this in your mind the fact that it is is potentially for Major League baseball anti tanking measure agreeing. We've seen in recent years a tremendous polarization of the standings we had the super teams like the Astros. The dodgers the Yankees and the Red Sox. And what we've seen on the other side is a lot of teams basically looking at the those super teams and saying you know what we can't compete. We're GONNA die the bottom of the standings we're going to try to pick I in the draft or second in the draft and I think works against that and potentially gives more hope to more teams. Imagine if you're a fan of the San Sandiego padres. You have made the playoffs since two thousand six. You haven't been at five hundred ten years you're better in two thousand twenty but you know what the dodgers are at the top division division. Having won seven straight nationally West Crowns. This type of thing would give you more hope. More hope for the players. More hope for the franchise absolutely so it accomplishes a couple of things that combat's tanking or at least takes a step in that direction and it makes for more interesting games as the season goes on. The attendance has been weighed down at at least part of the reason for that is that it feels like half. The sports season is over. By the time we get to the first of August. This should address as well. That's exactly right Jerry dipoto general manager of the Seattle Mariners said something a couple years ago. That baseball in recent years has got to the point where teams there's many teams fighting for the bottom bottom of the standings as they are for the top of the standings. And now if you're a small market team especially if you're the Cleveland Indians if you're the padres and you have an opportunity ready to get better with one or two moves in July you'd be there'd be incentive to do that to go from eighty four to eighty seven wins all right so I consider myself an open minded person when when I first read this anytime you hear projection or a suggestion of something that is this radical of a change. There's a little skepticism that creeps in my initial reaction to this now having started the little and listen to you is I think I like it overall. Is that what you're hearing. I'll get to Trevor Bauer second but overall from the people you've talked to do people generally like it. The baseball people I've talked to are open minded the way you are because they look at baseball in recent years and they feel like we have to make changes and let's face it. Baseball baseball has more traditionalist than any other sport. I was one of those in the ninety s when bud ceiling put in the wildcard game. I thought it was a terrible idea and you know what I was completely wrong. It was a great idea it drew in more fans. More teams more players gave the more opportunity to share in that October experience. I agree with you and the second second wildcard which creates more significance on winning division all of that so the change is thus far have worked out in our view. Now let's talk about what some of the players reaction may be and I want to put up the tweet from Trevor Bauer who is known to be very outspoken player. And at times says things that people find difficult one way or another. This is what he tweeted. He tweeted no idea who made this new playoff format proposal but rob is responsible for releasing it. So I'll direct this to you rob Manfred. Your proposal is absurd for too many reasons to type on twitter improves. You have absolutely no clue about baseball. You're a joke buster. Do we have any sense. As to the degree to which he is speaking for other players. Do we have a sense of what other players I think about. These proposed changes. Yeah not yet. And that's why today I'm hearing Yankees camp. I'm really curious to have conversations with players about the idea. Yeah and I want to hear specifically what Trevor bowers objections are because it does feel like a system where it's potentially going to create more money for the players more opportunity fortune's competitiveness among teams more incentive for teams to try to get better during the air and during the off season. That would all seem to be a good thing for players so I'm really curious specifically what he doesn't like about the plan. Yeah and I but it's also an illustration of how sometimes the traditionalist you're talking about. Are the players themselves. They are the hardest ones to convince. That is a good idea. And so that might be the biggest challenge. Commissioner faces alright buster from Tampa if you hear anything else down there let us know. 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That was always the idea when it handed out the stiff suspension that it did last year so assuming that a win as well as it sounded like I would expect that myles Garrett winds up getting reinstated but I think myles Garrett plays the majority if not all of the twenty twenty season shefty on sportscenter last night. Let me bring it out to my guys here. First of all Jeff Darlington what. What if anything can you tell us about this process and about what the browns or anyone else's expectations are I hate to say it but not much at this point quite frankly it's in the hands of the NFL? What I will say is that when we hear the term indefinite suspension is exactly what the NFL wants it to be? They want to deflect project it out into the future. And that's where we now stand and you know. I think there was an expectation bobby that it was going to be somewhere in the line of sixty eight games. Maybe when you tried to really hatchet out not the lifetime ban that maybe these your rational judgment initially thought it to be but I could see them just saying we will let them back so you looked at that. I think they wanted to push this out to the off season. So you're not dealing with in the midst of the playoffs. You're not dealing with it in the midst of the Super Bowl. It don't want to carry this over into twenty twenty Greenie. Ashby talking about it leading into training. I would anticipate that it'll get reinstated these. He's a good guy. He doesn't have any history with any of these things. I think. That's the biggest piece. This isn't a a situation where he's a repeat offender. This isn't Vonda has birthed. WHO's been out headhunting for years and has been warned? There's no history of this pattern of behavior and because of that show contrition. Can you do some things. We'll give you a conditional reinstate. He had like some flags for late. Hits on the quarterback venue kind of thing which is obviously not the same thing you know. It's funny greedy. It's like part of me. Wants to make the joke about the fact that what do you expect them to do and he goes in. The commissioner dissolves be like might do this again like of course he's going to be controlled right. That said there's a lot of meetings that happen in that office that you'd be fascinated. I needed to learn that the guy walks in there and be like. I didn't do anything wrong and I'm not apologizing. Here's the complicated part of this for me and this is what I try to bring up. As soon as it occurred to me that we were on the day after this happened it might not be until the following week that I that this part of it entered my mind there was there happened to be six games left in the season when this happened. That's a very convenient number as we sit. Look at it now. Had there been three games left in the season because whatever they do here they are to some degree setting a precedent right. You take your helmet off and hit someone in the head with it on a football field. This is what the punishment is going to be so we decided at six games. We were talking about a full year. We were talking about whether or not. They should involve law enforcement assessment on the day after this happened I get that cooler heads prevail but what we are deciding is that six games is going to be the number. That's what they leave it. At based solely upon the fact at that's how many games were left on their schedule. There's there are six games left. But then they also said this was going to include potential playoff so the remainder of the season. So Cleveland at that point in time still had a pathway to get into the playoffs so six games sounds about right they would have maybe potentially made the playoffs often a seventh or eighth in there and then I think they give themselves enough leeway. We wait to wear trying to say here this week. Three would it be a six week suspension. It'd be back in week ten. I don't think I think you make a fantastic point when it comes to precedent because it's not a team punishment you're not punishing a guy if he made the playoffs that he gets those suspension to that point. Wait you're setting a precedent for hitting a guy in the head with helmet right and I don't know that six games enough. You're just completely changed my mind. Well that's the thing is that I and I'm not accusing anyone anything. It happened to be a very looking back on it. It's very convenient way to do. It was for the rest of the year. Let them come in show contrition we bring them back with the reality is if this had it happened week three. I don't think we would have seen myles Garrett the rest of the season at all so now all of a sudden it would have become a thirteen game suspension. That's the part of this that I think is complicated. There's they try and figure out how to finish. This precedent is a very important element that I definitely was not thinking about and I guess if you look at all the things all the suspensions that we have if these that happen off the field and all that different stuff at six games seems fitting box it seemed to work out really well for the NFL in heaven forbid something like this happens going forward then they at least have the six games during two kind of lean back. Perhaps we'll see once again. Meanwhile this year we will have coverage from the NFL scouting combine at Lucas Oil February twenty seven through March first. NFL Live live reports that week on. ESPN the NFL network will have their usual full coverage all the coverage is also available on the ESPN APP. So you can watch from anywhere Laura. Let's run the floor with rich. Sean Farnum and we begin with De Ngelo Russell who had twenty two points and five assists in his timberwolves. Debut not enough to cool off those red hot rafters some people. Sean didn't see him coming. But the biggest threat from the bucket no There's the schedule during this period of time has been one of the weakest we've seen in. NBA History. That doesn't take away. The fact that they've won fifteen consecutive games does all right. So I'm not ready to put them in the class. The Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah all right. So you're telling me to pump the brakes okay. Warriors honored Andre Agassi Dolla. Before his first game back in the bay area last night that was nice to see and iggy and fellow heat newcomer Jae Crowder. It helped lead Miami to a win. What kind of impact? Those two having for the heat I think the the heat in the strides that they've made already this season. Were your go has been dramatic. I think Jay crowder is going to have a larger impact on the court that Andre is but I think his leadership and some of his intangibles. We're GONNA pay off. Yeah Jimmy Butler career okay. PELICANS officially listing Rookie Zion Williamson as probable for tonight's game against the Blazers. Diane Miss the one game after spraining. His left ankle less Thursday but he declared himself quote ready to go after being a full participant in. Monday's practice that's good news for New Orleans because when Zion has an active their level of play has gone up exponentially before Zion debuted. They were in the bottom third of the League in paint points per game and since then they ranked third in the NBA NBA. So Sean it's been so much fun to watch him on the court in his debut and look it's been such a short period of time that we've seen play. What is his impact so far on the floor you? It's a small sample size that we're dealing with here. But I think that you see the impact in those numbers he impacts the game offensively and defensively and it's not just about when he scorned the basketball. Take this play. For example he he's being courted by jaanus watches he clears out in vacates. The spot you come up beyond ball screen Lonzo ball is reads defense perfectly. Yana sees Brennan angry. Goes you know what no I can't leave John Williamson. It opens up the pain for everybody else and then defensively. He is such a unique talent. We saw this time and time again on ball screen situation. How do you defend that? Is James Harden coming off the screen. He's now out autumn. He knows James Harden is going to go look look how he stays in front of them. Cuts cuts him off forces him to give the ball up that allows holiday to pinch show and then forced a contested shot in the middle of the paint by Russell. Westbrook this is the change. Let's let's just put things into Perspective on Zion Williamson when he's out on the floor per one hundred possessions there plus eleven. Do you know what that equals wins. Go Seventy wins. It's like Milwaukee Bucks now. I'm not saying the PELICANS are going to get there. But his impact. When he's on the floor he makes his team playoff team? Okay so all that considered how how good of a pro do you project neon to be. I think here's where he is. I don't think he's this generational talent but what I do believe is that he's a player that can dramatically change a franchise and that you need to have out on the floor because his athleticism skill set and how unique he is makes him a player that is a force my only concern sern with him. And it's the concern that we always talk about with him is longevity right injuries. Kenny sustain his health. What have you seen from that standpoint? So far in this limited sample size as you watched him a ton in college how do you think he is managing his body and trying to stay healthy. I think he's still needs to lose. Some weight maintain a strength lose some of of his weight Because again the impact that we've talked about all the time whether it was j will after his debut on this show talking about how lands when you're in traffic you're that big and your your. Your game is dependent upon your ability to elevate and get above everybody else. You make yourself more susceptible to lower extremity injuries. And that's what we're going to continue to focus on with him but all of us obviously hope that he says all the floor because what we've seen now is brandon. Ingram who struggle playing with him. Early has figured out how to play off of him. And that bodes well for the PELICANS. Yeah Good to you see that Zion back healthy. We'll see him play again. 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Carolina Family Business and Remembering Eddie Sutton with Doug Gottlieb

Titus & Tate

1:15:18 hr | 2 months ago

Carolina Family Business and Remembering Eddie Sutton with Doug Gottlieb

"Today's of we are talking about the trouble in Paradise Tate. Coming OUT OF CHAPEL HILL. There is a rift and family and the Carolina family ty Lawson on instagram. Today is throwing shots at Roy Williams. And you're going to have to defend the Carolina Culture Fans for how much time we spend ripping on the Brotherhood the fans licking their lips. In Long. Last there's A. There's a rift in the Carolinas Carolina. Family right that's your little Hashtag. We call it family. Business and failure is not supposed to be shared a family and unfortunately Tyler Lawson was. It was awarded the Best Point Guard at Carolina and he responded with this. Must new species ultimate mic drop is to say I don't walk year recognition. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about that. A little bit. Had a give us his thoughts as a Carolina guy? Obviously we are also having Doug Outlive on the program today because Eddie Sutton passed away over the week and any sudden sue me if you disagree tate but like two guys our age he just. Kinda like we caught him at the tail end of his career. Remember the Oh four final four but even in. Oh four there is. I'll be honest with you. I kinda thought that was his first four discourages the way everybody know for was so excited to see Eddie Sutton at the final four and it just had this this this feeling of like this is his last ride. It's good to see the coach. Finally do it and then go back and you look. He's like no. We made fun of fours before that but the point is I remember no four. He was just kind of like the old guy on the sidelines at everyone root for physicians all and then after he he retired he became the guy who's not in the hall of fame. That's pretty much like what his legacy was to me. So rather than have tate nine kind of talk about and what he meant to college basketball figure alley fun knows better than anyone else right and and all you have to do is for. God was just throw the alley and he will go and go and go and we appreciate that and we got lots of great stories so it was a funny. He's the best. Doug loves the stories and we love having them so we going to do that. We're also the return of NASCAR driver. Wwf Wrestler or college basketball coach. I was watching the Coca Cola. Six hundred last night and it got me all excited and I thought we have to. We have to bring this back because it's such a fun game and and and I realized how few NASCAR drivers are. I recognize this. Been a of what are so we're going we're going to do that. We're going to have some fun at the end of show might even get get into a little dirty laundry. You got a couple of to We'll do all of it but I would. He do is Memorial Day. We recorded on a holiday to hardworking men and show business is what they call a state and it's days like today the prove why. I WANNA I start here. Did you watch the match yesterday? Yes yes the match between the golf match between two quarterbacks into offers and they were all miked up. I was watching this live right. I was on twitter though I was screwing around and all I see. Is the me people making fun of Tom Brady? Tom Brady is so bad. A Goff and it got to the point where I'm like. I need to watch Tom. Brady lose because why not? Let's watch Tom Brady lose. That's always I never see that I turn on the match. It's Tom Brady. He's about to hit a shot and I see them practicing outside. This guy. Looks like you'd be all right. He holds it then. He's been talking. Jump the Charles. Barkley was like a it was the opposite of everything I had seen on twitter. Which just confirmed that twitter is alive? I turned it off. I didn't see anything else. I think that on the reason the Tom Brady is winner. Every all you so you turn it on and Tom Brady and then all twitter was just Tom Brady holding out for the rest of my twitter screens. Really mixed twenty minutes is watching. The Tom Tom Brady was horrible in the front nine and it was. It was funny but when he holed out I realized how good like. Then he say he was at eight handicap. That was the todd. Everyone's thrown out. Is the Tom Brady? Claimed TO BE EIGHTY GAP. If you're watching him on the front nine you're like there's no way this guy's in anti-theft and then he holds out and that shot was a great shot. Made me believe he's an eight handicap. Knock because he made it to eight but the way he reacted. Because if you're as bad as Tom Brady was playing. Which is like like Tom? Brady was playing about as bad as I am like I. That was part of the appeal obscene amount. There was like hey do that. It was it was great. It was like it was like he was like the walk on on the on. The college basketball rarely. Hey that could be me. If a couple of things broke differently in my life so much Tom Brady and I'm like yeah. I'm about as good as this guy. And then he holds he. He holds out that that shot and I said if I made that I would. I would just lose my mind. I would throw my club. I would be running around. I would be asking everybody if they saw it. He just got a smiles and raises his eyebrows. Like all right so the guy might be actually kind of golf. Because he was. He was acting like he'd been there before. That's my point and tells me that he's he actually might be okay yet and also one of those weird things where it seemed like he had set this whole thing up. He was sandbagging. And it is a sandbag. Or if you learn anything for the Super Bowl against the foul courtesy sandbag or he likes to be down and come back aerobically enact like it was it was it was fantastic. I enjoyed every second of it. Although I like the front nine a lot. Better in the back nine. The back kind of kind of started losing a little steam starting to guard rain came back in and and I think tiger paid or so. We're up so much that it was kind of it was. It was kind of close to the end but I definitely joined the front. I'm more but Again I watch anything else. I turned it man. It makes me Miss Sports though I watched that. And then the Coca Cola six hundred one on Fox which We're GONNA. We're GONNA talk about that a little bit later but Yeah I don't know man. I missed the indy. Five hundred so much. I just sat there on yesterday. That just watch sports Been almost even though Tom. Brady Peyton Manning Phil Mickelson. Entire was golf was exactly normal but whatever What's the next match for that? That's what everyone says. Are THEY GONNA put in to this. Whole little format with my. My suggestion is ever. Everyone wants George just because the last dance one but also Jordan obviously a ton of golf and it makes sense because it's like it seems to be just absolute legends. That are playing with these guys. Rates Jordan makes sense. I think Gretzky makes a lot of sense. We're Jordan right. Doesn't Gretzky Golf? Golf course he has he has to. He's it's funny how Gracie's gotten lost in the in the greatest of all time hammers asics time has passed on. It seems like people you know. They've just left Gretzky off the list when they mentioned people. Have like you would Serena Williams. Michael Jordan you know is should we up debate? Should we like the Jordan? Lebron thing is tired and played out. Should we fresh is Gretzky sports goat? He's the top sports the sports go Jordan or Gretzky. You got the next for the next seven weeks. We are going to spend an hour. Each show debating Gretzky. No I think that'd be awesome right. You'd you'd have Jordan Phil and Gretzky Tiger or did you flip it. Do you just do the the two white guys. The two black geysers too much. That's that's probably too much right. You gotta you gotTa Gretzky intact. That might be too much is touching divided already. We don't Jordan Tiger Woods Ziva Gretzky when it would also be great. I didn't feel like the teams are off like Tom. Brady and Tiger should have been on the team for whatever reason they just have both robots. Yes perfect route. I was understanding how. How pair these things up up for me? I saw people say they won't Jordan and Steph Curry I want Jordan is the Thomas. I argument that my my my billion dollar idea and I'm putting this out into the whatever happens. It's it's everyone just says my dear. You're welcome when I expect like some sort of acknowledgement. That that that I I had this so the day before the SP's right like that is played. When does the MLB all-star game usually on a Sunday right? It's like I remember that Kirk. It's like in July right. Yeah it's in July but then the the SP's happened in the reason they happened like right after the All star. Game The the mobile games because it's like the one little few stretch of few days where all four major sports leagues aren't playing and it's like the one time can get all these guys together to give them awards. Show Jimmy vis speech thousand times so my idea is the day before the SP's when everyone comes to La for the SP's Dua golf event with foursomes play like play scramble. Play a best whatever it is and in the foursome is one guy from each of the major league state. You have a you have a hockey guy. Baseball Guy. A football guy to basketball on each team there's like four or five teams and we put it on TV and it's great and then they play for for money and yeah and that's it and then and then like the option to donate to charity but then like Jordan is one of the basketball players and he wins and he decides. He's not throwing this church. Thank you so much I appreciate that. I'll keep that Yeah I like that. Let's watch it. That's a good idea right. The espy golf. That would be fantastic. Put put yeah just doing that casually now but they should just do that. Tv for that's what we learned from. This I love here in just shit talking on television I like to hear Charles Barkley and and I think it's important. Tom Brady suck in is important because I think we need more guys stuck in a golf on. Tv There's that doesn't happen enough. Golf is like the one sport where you only see. 'cause even the guys like obviously tour pros have bad days but eventually when they start playing poorly the cameras stop falling and they go to the guys that are playing. Well so like. If you're a consumer of golf you only ever consumed the guys that are playing out of their mind and it messes it. It messes up your head. It gives you an unfair people. Go to the Golf Course. And they get very break clubs at throw clubs. It's a yeah so we need to go. We need more footage of great athletes stuck in a golf just for our own confidence to be like. Oh I don't have to beat myself up. Shot an eighty four today when I went out like it's not that bad good around. Maybe I don't know anyway. I really enjoyed the match. Let's talk about the news of the day in college basketball. Suddenly I didn't enjoy. This is the opposite of what you enjoy. This is a version of the match. Which is basically High Lawson Birth Roy Williams and A battle royale. And what's going on? I just I get out of the shower this morning. I get a text from a friend of the program Stanford Seaney he says. I just WanNa make sure you see this. C- can hey state with it and it was a link to a tweet that someone had the screen shots of Tilerson's instagram posts. What do you call it? The stories on its what it is young and in his stories. I'll read word for word that people have context because everyone's colluded to social media as much as you and I are here so ty Lawson he he he posts who talked shit about someone who won the championship Your Weird. I got messages from ten. Nba GM's that said it came out your mouth. That's why I don't fuck with Carolina or support anything yell do and then you go to the next little story TAB and says. It's a blessing that I don't open my mouth about shit. They asked me why. I don't show love North Carolina Roy Williams knows so that's the context. He he puts this. You're saying this is not out of nowhere. It felt to me like it was out of it. Felt like it was just like Memorial Day. Everyone's like awesome prayers for the troops and ty Lawson psych folk the troops. I got a message to the haters today. Anti Lawson's message is basically like you said one that is not Carolina friendly and it all started because North Carolina. We're no sports right. We understand this North Carolina basketball. Twitter says we're GONNA find out who the best point guard is in North Carolina basketball history. So they have. Both people were arguing out and it comes down to the final which is very twitter. It's the two thousand nine national champion verse. Seventeen National Chevy. Joel Berry restyled Lawson Lawson wins ty Lawson is alerted by the fans. That voted for him. But Hey tie your favorite North Carolina Point Guard. Congratulations Lawson says. Thanks but no thing I'm GonNa Wipe my ass with that declaration because here's what I think about North Carolina. Yeah now you get in the context of I see this and I immediately tweeted it. I thought you tweeted at me. And you're like near comment and I'm like absolutely not but I knew that he won the pulse. I Mike quit the poll up. Make sure that he at least yet again we want to reinforce the he is our favorite point guard from the fans. Nothing to do with coach all right so reach out to some people that may not reach out the personally tie. No no no answer no common. Wow No comment. That's a nice. That's a nice journalism trick is text the I two minutes before you go on air and when it back you say wow that'd be reached for comment. I don't know what's going on. I reach this former teammates. Them national champions a man. That were headband. With them at one time. Obviously I've mentioned to you ty Lawson at one point and Massive Square Garden to will bonnet. I was at that game. He were ban against Gonzaga. Josh Highveld Kill Tyler And Gonzaga when the Game Jeremy Cargo at a great game high Lawson Thompson were told by Roy Williams. They will not be wearing headbands anymore. This is their freshman year in two thousand seven That did not obviously role tie Oh but they kept playing the kept winning two thousand nine. They went and Chip I lost in my opinion is the best player. Maybe we know who's the to Bessler or then there's the two thousand nine draft. I lost and declares for that draft. It's been three years at North Carolina and Blake Griffin. Goes Number One. That's fair Games. Hard goes number three. That's fair tyreek Evans goes number four. Sure that's fair number. Five Minnesota has a pick or their Mike Art of the future and there was a lot of rumors and rumblings that Minnesota loved a guy by the name of Taiwan Lawson out of the DNB area. In Taiwan Lawson was the best player. Best Point Guard the tournament that year at apparently there was some reasons for Minnesota hesitate on picking Ty Lawson. So they ricky. Rubio the this station and then at number six. They had another had another pick. And they say you know what we're not going to go with that guy time when Lawson because maybe we haven't steph curry we're GONNA take no no no no no the be version of pylos and Johnny Flynn out of Syracuse. Who also. He is basically Tyler Lhasa just but he got to wear a headband. So I guess they got a little bit of a personality. So we'll take number six. Ty Lawson is sitting at home right now. He's like better the Johnny. Flynn who Ricky. Rubio is our number seven warriors. I'm going to be the future. Warriors Point Guard. I'm a play you know. And it's going to be great. It's all set up. No goes a steph curry. He's like even more of the list. Going on number ten Brandon Jennings. Didn't even play college. Basketball GOES TO THE MILWAUKEE BOOKS. He continues to fall number twelve jailed. Henderson guy that elbowed his teammate believed was number twelve. We're not even talking about character. Is Teammate Tyler? Hands Bro. Who can't shoot a three to save his life in a in a developing changing goes number thirteen to the Pacers. Probably understands that what he's like? Yeah yeah they had to make sense. That makes sense all right number fifty. We Got Austin Bay. James Johnson Number Seventeen Philadelphia's like I'm GonNa be the future Philadelphia how am I wrong the lottery? What is going on? What ARE PEOPLE SAYING ABOUT? Drew holiday number seventeen overtime. Loss at again. He's the best point guard the game. He doesn't understand what is going on. Finally number eighteen the timber wolves who loved him so much. Come back on the fort. They've already made three picks. They've already picked every guard in the drafts. We'll take Taiwan loss and now they traded to Denver and the rest is history. Apparently Tyler I went loss was alerted to white fell early because things have been set by Williams. This is all speculation. This is what ty actually thinks. These stories is deleted the stories. But let me just tell you? If I'm Tyler Larsen I saw all these people get picked. Buffy I'd be upset so that's the context. I was curious because I this again. This felt like you came out of nowhere but even even you saying that this was a result of the the fan poll or whatever I mean I get why why he spoke out but I still like his is feelings about North Carolina to come from nowhere as he's shown this before as you hinted at this because I I I obviously pay more attention to North Carolina and I do of I guess. In retrospect I don't remember ty Lawson coming back like answering those little Chauhan's broken crowd or Jordan giving a speech ceilings. That route for any of that ty I guess now that I think about it doesn't have a huge presence within the program as alum but I just assumed I don't know I knew I know how much you love. The fans love him and I just put it. He won a national title. We'll see most outstanding player on that team Wailing Most state player. That's right I just I would assume that. Like like I if maybe he's not like it's not like he loves Carolina and wants to go out of his way to come to a game every year or at very least you'd be like yeah. I had a good time foot by three years. A Carolina in the I have no ill so for index for him to say this I was. I was Kinda surprised I was like shocked that it felt like it came out of nowhere. But you're saying not or has he hinted at. This is something that we've known and I just didn't know about it. It's like a look dark. Web of North Carolina players that were great North Carolina. But they're not necessarily like you said put the forefront like Marcus paid is going to win a championship. You're gonNA see Marcus page everywhere. You go to North Carolina and go and see Joel Berry. Who did. But you're not gonNA necessarily see a tie loss. And Are you might not see Joseph Forte. Who Wins a final four? You might not see. Shop can't national. Tv that one makes sense. It makes sense one Bella Knicks. But what we're saying is like you know there is a You know there are certain players that are going to be the face of the program. I think from that twenty two thousand nine. Nineteen Danny Green. Who was physically my mind. The fifth guy team is I become more of the we talked to recant. Bro Danny back maybe Wayne Sometimes But it's never really tie so silence says something but I didn't know this. The silence was that was that rooted in silence is it looks like But let let's be honest if you if you go from Carolina you check all the boxes shape ship and then that happens you in the draft. Then you go to Denver for Carolina coach George Karl to ask and he's on you all the time like the establishment is North Carolina basketball. You're at China right now in quarantine. I'd be a little upset or is this just a case of Corinthian brain. Maybe maybe that's maybe tie will come out in a month or two or they might like or just deny it just an iot tie someone as us. I didn't know what are you talking about? Yeah Corn See brain would be a good way to start doing that with everything when we when I would never do podcasts and I said we picked him to win two thousand eighteen. That was quarantine. Great I was just ahead of the curve. Today's your honor. I can't be held accountable. Quarantine it's taken its toll on on my brain and by bed. No so so. What do you make of this state is this is this? Is this significant? Is this I guess you turn to recruit and you say or the best players of the Roy that has ever played Roy Williams at North Carolina is calling him out like this. Should we be worried? If you're if you're recruiting against Roy Williams you say you don't WanNa play for this guy. Look at look at how. The legends Roy them or or is this. Just a blip is this a blip or a bombs eight to put in coach gators. This is a blip and I think there's going to be Some reconciliation may be from Roy. I think Roy probably will. If I know coach Williams coach Williams would probably try to reach out to. Hey I know that George Karl told you that I said that about you to get you to work harder but it was just all right so we don't have to worry about it but we will be monitoring the situation see how ty Lawson tie if you're listening to come on the show. Come on the show tie on the right now. The the official answer is no common comma. Could not be reached for or did or did not respond to our request was delivered. What's the what's the way you say? It makes it sound especially damning when you're like in a hit piece on someone you reach out to them and they is. It did not or declined to Combi declined comment. Yeah yeah ty Lawson declined to comment stead decline comet basically says like I did it. I that's the way you phrase. It is the yeah we reached out. He declined never mind that. We texted five minutes before we came on air. All matters declined to comment. That's pretty didn't even know that he didn't know the story was going. You know he didn't even know it was on. His story said tie. You did not do this. You don't even say your hat. Just say literally didn't happen. Say It's photo anyone. That has a screen shot of it photoshop. It did not happen. You're all crazy. Yeah the only thing that he up now is the last one he put up which is like appreciate the Being the favourite is oh all right. Well well we will monitor that situation in the meantime We we talked to doug leave about eighty sudden. Say What you want about. Doug outlived the Mankins Story. Demand knows the game of basketball and he loves he loves. Eddie Sutton Manetti. Sudden passed away on on Saturday outpouring from the basketball community even even I saw bill. Clinton resemblance is a sudden. Was a longtime Arkansas coach from Arkansas. That there's an outpouring but but the most heartfelt the most like personal was from Dugout Lead. Doug has been Guy Forever Eddie Sutton as I said at the top is just a guy that like. I know of like I know the Trivia bullet points but I don't know the man I don't know the person I don't even know what is. Coaching philosophy necessarily was so for take night to to break down his passing. What he meant to college basketball would be disingenuous because students and we thought we bring a thirty in an informed. Will Doug Alley. So this is this is. This is our version of a eulogy for for coach. Sutton off from the man who invest are joining us. Now a friend of the program and a man who played for Eddie Sutton for three seasons at Oklahoma state from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and his name is dugout leave. He Looks Very Tan. He looks like he's enjoying his Memorial Day. Doug we wanted you to come on because obviously coach sudden passed away this weekend. Tate Nyerere little too young appreciate him. We had you on obviously a couple of months ago and you're on a lot of stories but we thought rather than having the two of US pretend like we know anything about coach. We should have you. Just come on. Just talk about him how much you love him. Because that's one thing that stands out to me In his passing was the love. I saw your instagram post. All you're saying about him and I figured what better way than had the guy who knew one of the guys that knew him best come on and just kind of talk about his legacy and all that so that's That's what I appreciate that I will. My our relationship with him is very different from pretty much. Anybody else In a my dad coach with him at Creighton in the sixties and so I had that my job passion college basketball I know enough about his history Yeah I mean look if your age or younger you're like I don't know who this guy is. I don't really get it. You know But he's unique in that he played from his driver. Henri Aiba. Who of course coach Olympic team won two national titles at then Oklahoma Am and he was you know. He's I think Nolan. Richardson played for mistrial. As well and end up winning and Asha Championship at at the time he was like I to play for coach. One one and then go to a final four. Look he just. He was a guy who's never desisting coach. He left college became a head coach. Who tells the central built into power? Then he went to college southern Idaho which has become a junior college. Power Roy since he got there when he got there he had sold on this campus. And it didn't even have a gym yet. There was really no camps yet then he left junior college went to Creighton. They they got the NCAA tournament upgrading. Went to Arkansas. And we took our `Kansas. It was a football school and he. He promised seniors they freshman if he did what they did what he said. They believed in them by their senior that. Get to a final four. Well sure enough to get to a fun for so then he leaves he goes to Kentucky. Which Kentucky is kind of like Kentucky now? Do you feel like it's anybody's dream job. And he had he always had clever sayings and he said when he got the job mode from Fayetteville Lexington. And now now think about that like what it says about Fed Ville. You know. It didn't go over well. Kentucky like the whole thing But his first year Kentucky. They did really well. They went to elite eight and I never forget that there was a letter in his office from the Governor of Kentucky and it was dated April after his first year was completely Kentucky and was like dear coach. Unpack the governor of Kentucky. That's how much I so. Then they had this like FAB. Five recruiting class and there was There was an envelope from there. Used to be a overnight service called emory. There was an envelope. Those emery envelope supposedly wasn't sealed up fell on the floor. Like a thousand bucks fell out. Who's going to show was? Was it right Christmas I Dunno Chris Meals or Eric Manual or shot. Shining for Sean Higgins. It might have been criminals like Shawn camp like this all the same as they were. Just load it right approach and he signed Rex Chapman as well. I mean this thing was loaded. So then you know. Kentucky's program got under investigation. Local papers a sports illustrated Kentucky. Shame drinking problem so he took a year off. You went to Oklahoma state which smile mater and what people forget about. Oklahoma state is much like Arkansas. Arkansas one in eight chairman twenty five years and they all said made I think three to four three at a six hour seven years or whatever. It was crazy kids. Oklahoma state the whole programs amass. The football program didn't win a game on probation. Like you name it. Everything's bad and immediately turns around and they go to two sweet sixteens ninety five four or two thousand four or five four win. Talita does not sweet sixteen in there and and became kind of synonymous with a college basketball as being power. We were consistent. Top Twenty top twenty five team names like big country and Brian Re Brian Raves and Byron Houston and then Onda Does Mason. I play with John Lucas And then you know Tony Allen as well and then you know in between the final mice. My senior year in the plane crash for ten people died. He dealt with that so there's just a lot of ups and downs is the NCAA. There's his own drinking problem which ultimately led to car crash Oklahoma state where he retired. Um There's plane crash and there's this unbelievable ability to consistently build a winner wherever he was one and obviously with the exception Kentucky there's never a whisper of and say impropriety and yell even if you look at Kentucky report. He wasn't mentioned in it is. I mean he did nothing wrong. I I can't tell you I wasn't there. I can only tell you that we didn't get anything who didn't so so. It's a complex story. But he's he's synonymous with tough kids. Play hard compete. We took transfers for was cool. We had guys that people missed you know before everybody else had guys people missed and we had this little bandbox rainer that was one of the toughest place to play and then he was the maestro. So that's there's there's a three minute clip on set. What a what is it about him? I mean obviously? He's a great coach. We know that What what is it about him? That makes you love him so much because today like the timing is pretty funny given that the news the tate and I are talking about today's ty Lawson like basically getting on instagram and talking smack about Roy Williams. So really what did he say he basically is just like this? Why don't mess with Carolina? He said ten. Gm's said he got messages from ten GM's about like like people are talking smack talking shit about him now or when he came attic twenty when he came out he put. He put some post on instagram in the news. Like Roy knows the deal like it was. It was very vague but also not at a but it all started because he wants some poll as the best airline point guard and then he was like. Here's what I think about Carol. The Best Carolina Point Guard point. I thought he was used tremendous. I don't know it's it's convoluted right. Like Thai. Had A drinking problem. I think he's clean now But he had badgering And College if that's what you know Roy Williams told people or Daytona Adds up Gets misused but my point is just because You play for college coaches great. And who's a legend does not necessarily mean you love your college coach. It's not necessarily a given and he wasn't easy on me either. You love coach though. Like you see yes always like I was. I was kind of circle there for a little bit. Because when he had his accident. I said you know I just don't think you can coach anymore. Because he's because he's the He's the highest paid member of al-Qaeda. He was on the way to a game. And you know I guess I could recused myself and said I was too close to two emotional but I chose not to so. There's a lot of people close to them. They're like super super emotional about it and didn't want me on the program or claim Oklahoma state. And you know when I talked to him after. He kinda sobered up he was like. I'm not mad you like you'd involve wagon. I did you know how do I like? Well I he was cool man. He was really cool like he. I do I. I think he could have done a better job. Coaching me like I'll be honest like he's screwed up. I screwed up. You know I wish I would have had the confidence to him and say. Hey Man listen utimately you WanNa do and you tell me what I'll tell you what I wanna do like. Let's find a way to figure it out because I just don't operate well when I think of mistake. I'm coming over there you know and I can't play that way. And Dow was one of the ways he eight aiding coach everybody. That goes everybody differently based on the personality and he would you get on me because he knew I could take Islands Zoa I think. As I liked that he was he was cool and he tried to relate to all the kids the country kids like his black kids is parents are divorced kids. No parents kids at two parents like my dad. Kosher them now. I'm sure a pain in his ass and yet he's still cool with me I liked him because he had just enough. Like what you'd call Swag today. You know. He thought he looked good. He come in always Nestle Mike. He'd come in and he had talked about well. Ladies AND DOUG ITEM ARMAMENT AND I. It's good hair brother. He come in sweat suits and they were. He switched to terrible like. We're a Nike School. You can get whatever you want me of these terrible Switzerland. He thought he'd been would good. Yes clone on and Y- cool things you know. Like he tells the system coaches or walkout Jimmy Rome to their ankles smoke house like I don't WanNa run. He told guys clump together. Congress congregating Mike Shooting craps. There's lots of cleverness tomb like you've never met people from Kansas Oklahoma Texas. I feel like a lot of the kind of country dudes. They have like a little bit of different personality. 'cause they spent some time out there on the tractor and they thought a funny show. It was that And I I just I think part of it is. I don't know how was for you at at Ohio state but there was a lot of US versus them than Being Coaching Staff. And that was kind of by design and it made us really closer because at one point like Fuck Man. I hate you hate them. Hate them like we all hated and it was like a brilliant plan to somehow galvanize us and So I think he did that. I thought he built relationships with us in a clever way. Why every day you're in the water you come in see a coach and sign a paper that said you saw coach so you made eye contact. They knew who you are. Where you or whatever You know he was. He was very real. He was flawed. He'd make mistakes loses. The lose in. Never cursed is crazy members. I career to know that he was crazy yet. That that's one of the actually. This is true story so never cursed and we had run for cursing. I swear to God. I'll if we cursed in practice we had to run for cursor dared now why I would never guess that about him. Now is a little different. I don't know if you know the story and I don't know how long we can go. But Pat night had night Kirsten practice and they were nuns there and Bob Knight made him run an assembly hall for his dirty etching. Mouth right him say his favor curse word which apparently seawater short right. I'M NOT GONNA oil noted as we've got running up the saying he. Ccc These easy Coast into that coach would make you either the whole team run. You run or you had to go. And and and run the steps and yet count every one of them. And you'll gallagher. He knew exactly how many steps award you had to come down and state Missouri. He didn't get it right to do it again. And so so he didn't curse in practice but he got across and we were still scared death of him. Like you sixty four. You know when I played for sixty four and I think I could take him but I'm not gonna try but one of the ways in which people thought he might be drinking again. Was He cursed once and I actually like got a text like android coach that weaning when he cursed I was like no no. I've been here fifteen years. I never heard and curse before so yeah I mean it was a it was. There's just a little bit of a picture of painting while you love them. As a coach to coach yet helps that helps the deadly. One last thing Doug you're talking about legacy and obviously you know you pointed the Kentucky Years and some people point to that like scan doing things but in two thousand eleven. He gets inducted to the College Basketball Hall of fame then he gets into the basketball hall of fame ops earlier this year. I mean were you able to was able to enjoy that right just getting that auditions or did it. You know was he aware enough of that whole thing because it seems like the whole basketball where I looked around and said hey. Any Son has an amazing coaching tree as an amazing career when he daughter. Bernice even a finalist. I think four other times and wishes devastating and I can only guess that you know like look. It was time I mean he was. He suffered a stroke a couple years ago and I think another mini won a couple of weeks ago and his body just started shutdown but ironically was after he found out he was in. I was told that he His son told me John said that he he knew that he got in. He smiled about it Yeah it was. It was a really important thing and it's interesting because I think one of the things they've done is a screwed up. So many historically great coaches by letting active coaches in you know and the active coaches. They don't need to get in. They're gonNA get eventually whereas historically great coaches and TEX winter didn't get in and then he was alive but he wasn't really lucid naval to stay in Tex- winner who by the way recruited co Sutton to Kansas state. I think by this when he was growing up in Buckland Kansas fog Allen Kansas Tex Winter Kansas State Ralph Miller became Oregon State's head. Coach Miller was a wichita state a mistrial but at Oklahoma am I mean unbelievable anyway So I just I wish you would have gotten in so you wouldn't have the ask these questions you know. Because I heard him speak and you'd be like oh I get it. He just had one of those and I don't. I don't know what that was like when you play for him but I do feel like an older generation of coaches of the the Jimmy vs the towels The Lewd Olson's Many of them have high school routes and it took to recruit. You got to be a great storyteller my any just have you done TV and radio shows for years and you just have a way where you take over a room and that was him like he wasn't he wouldn't crack jokes and he was just a big smelly come in had a great great pipes and he just take over my everybody shut up and listen to what. Eddie was saying and I think we're Kinda missing some of that. Some of these younger guys not program that way But anyway so yeah in two thousand seven it was. He obviously should have gotten college basketball. The naismith though is along fight and he finally got in and today to answer your question did no and so now he you know his wife passed before him in two thousand thirteen that It was really cool and the family's been unbelievable about it because we all wanted it for him. I nobody like I don't give a shit. I don't get anything out of I do. I play for a great coach. Right but But but we want for him for his family and they all wanted for us you know to be recognized because of our teams and national championship. It's like you didn't exist or you don't get a five or like we. We great year got to alleviate like even the Kentucky team is your Nobody ever heard so I. It was a very very cool big thing. Yeah that's for. I would say our generation of people even grow watching college basketball. Eddie Sutton was always just kind of Crotchety old guy on the side on the basis. Yeah he was. He was the grumpy face. Guy That like all the old people would just clam about not being in the hall of fame. And that's all the people really knew about him so we wanted to have you on. And and Kinda Kinda eulogized a little bit. I I so what? What is the one thing if we can put a ball on this? Doug what is the one thing you want? People to know about Eddie Sutton were taken is age and younger. That don't know a ton about you've already kind of hit a lot of things. Here's here's one this. Is this be probably the big one in terms of basketball which you guys do is Is what you do is copied. Then you especially in basketball is not a new game and though there are new ideas right. What you do is copied. Like what are they? Stayed at imitation is sincere. Form of flattery. And you know I can't think of a a every Jim. I walked into especially early on when my broadcasting career and when I was still playing guys say like hide. You guys do. What do you mean? Well how'd you get? How'd he get you play so hard defensively? Had you guys do it? And it's interesting because his reputation was defense and we do. We guard the shit out of people and I'll tell you the secret to that in a second. But what's amazing to me? Is You know he had a reputation? Plan slow I get there. We average eighty over eighty game three years row because you just into his personnel embraced three point shot. Because he just you know just as personnel. We played smaller decimation personnel. The defense thing how we played I mean like just demanding of of supreme effort every day every practice every game and he wasn't no matter how good you were he'd Hook you if you didn't give him up effort. I don't know how that would have gone in today's one and done game. But we played the transfer market so he one of the things I think he liked about transfers was least back then weren't gonNA transfer twice so he told me like you do my way. Fine go ahead. California like aspect. Gal Go play in a you. Know you don't want to go play in Israel and that was real like he's right. I got no other options. I'm GONNA play harder so I think how hard we play Our level of competitiveness the ability to the transfer thing which everybody's doing now like dude. We did that. We did it at the highest level. I mean the the final four team in two thousand four Daniel Barbeque. Whose Dad played for him as well anybody. Byu John. Lucas came from Baylor The Graham twins came from central Florida I'm forty eight so we took him. You know people other people can get him in school. I that was that was forgetting somebody. Who's on that squad? Jason Miller was North Texas There was another guard. Who's a junior college all American like nobody Tony Out Tony? Two different junior colleges so the idea was like he was doing the ship for everybody else was and they did a great job of recruiting and in developing relationships. And you know if you would turn them down on a high school. They weren't gonNA tell you to fall. And they knew that they might get on the bounce back But more than the got you got you play really hard you know we forced baseline we posed doubled before a lot of people post double. Obviously most people impose double now. We just played her balls off. And I think that's what people ask all the time I did it. They try and emulate emulate how he played defensively the toughness. That's nasty. That would play with. And I think when you copied things win legit hi level coaches ask. He like tell me something. Eight hundred seventy to me a drill. That did we do these drills every day in practice everyday. Yeah we did one on one containment on the side everyday in practice every day every single day and like you're playing some dudes that are gonNA make you look bad if you're not guarding and you're GonNa you know you don't have to get a stop in order to get get off defense so you're you know you're not GonNa Guard you just stand. We can be their time But you know and then the offense ran was pretty simple as of we ran the Carolinas secondary but then we ran a form of cowboy. Which is Henry? I was kind of two one. Two Offense Michigan state so runs a version of it as part of their sats. Now and guy new very simple play hard go to asked of fun and and you'll be accountable so that that's Kinda We appreciate it. Doug thanks for joining us Taking time out of your holiday time. Yes my dog had diarrhea before we started recording. So what what your dog eat? He's got a little crazy on memorial day weekend at Athens. I talking to the beach. And he he ingested a lot of salt water they drink a lot of water and then it's terrible. They just have the reaffirm few days anyway appreciated Doug. We'll do it again soon. We'll we love having you on love of stories. Shit quick to get away from our sponsored Dell Titus whether working remotely taking Web classes binge watching TV or gaming Dell is here to help you find the right tech all of the above for me. That's effect that's from ex-pm. Alienware computers at redefining. What's possible with tension Intel core processors? The latest top brand. Electronics are seamless tech. Solutions will keep you connected to the world hus- you can get free shipping today. Call us at eight hundred. B U Y del. That's eight hundred. Buy Dell today and be able to get free shipping again. That is one eight hundred. B U Y. D. E. L. Back to the podcast all. Thank you to Dugout As I said a great storyteller fond getting insight I learned a lot run so fast. Your ankle. Smoke was my favorite rephrase Remember that yeah. I will remember a lot of those stories from Doug Alley also graded as have doug on because you just ask one thing in dogs just like let me tell best. Yeah let me give you the full run. Now we got the whole Eddie Sutton story like you said three minutes. That's better than anything dug a little peak behind the curtain. Here when we have guests on prepare for it because I'm a professional so I type of notes things. I WANNA hit questions I to ask directions. I WanNa take the interview with Doug comes on. I have notes. I I had nothing written down. I was like I'm just GonNa ask Eddie Sutton your thoughts. And then let him take it from there and seems like great question mark. Let me get into that. Stayed on topic. Congratulations the dog for staying on topic for twenty minutes or whatever's on there was a quick side story. I dug me randomly the day Joe Portes suck to and like I was scared. He's going to bring that up was like I don't need a godly. Shaving Carolina basketball. I feel inside time. He didn't bring that up. So that was nice All right we got to play this game. So I'm watching. I said Memorial Day weekend here on Sunday then. Five hundred has not happened. I I've gone to at least fifteen in a row. I lost count this point. How many and five hundred. So my Memorial Day Sunday was was thrown out of whack. I didn't know what to do. I always have the Coca Cola. Six hundred on because my dad is a big race fan and he'll watch the five hundred over the WHO watch the rebroadcast. The Indy five hundred in in Indianapolis has not aired live. That you're at after the race 'cause they make every black it out and make everyone it will come home. He'll watch the five hundred and then flipping between that and the Coca Cola six hundred. So that's my saying it's always on the TV. But I never really liked pay that much attention because I'm usually very drunk and I've tried to take just a cold shower. Who'll out the race? But I watch it on Sunday and I was watching. I was watching the Coca Cola. Six hundred no fans in attendance. I was on Fox by fetch relevant. That's why I'm talking about it. The higher ups this new segment in an old segment but no segment. Yeah we're bringing it back so much the Coca Cola six hundred and I thought we need to bring this back this because I used to follow Nascar. I was a big Jeff. Gordon Guyq because Jeff Gordon went to high school right next to my high school from the same part of the world. Earn our baby. You're so engorged. Was that his heyday. The Rainbow Warriors. Jeff Gordon winning the inaugural brickyard. Four hundred is a big day in my family so anyway I watched NASCAR all the time I fall on the opposite side. It's like North Carolina North artist. You Love Sammy Sosa. I like mark mcgwire. This guy's Gretzky guy. I'm your guy so I'm watching. I'm watching the Cola six hundred and I recognize like half the names. I don't I've lost count. Who's I recognize your bushes urged Johnson's obviously but some of the guys? Where the? Jared Jared still. They're like are they. Yeah like he's I think he mark Martin. Where's Mark Martin? Is he still racing? I don't know okay. Everyone's all work in broadcasting every every time I was watching racing just for the update. You if you ever won a Nascar Race Fox gives you a lifetime contract the races. That's how it works so all these guys working broadcast but I didn't I and and I remember we did this segment before and I thought this is a perfect time to bring it back because NASCAR is back in earnest whether even though the fans are they're still NASCAR chugging along we're Fox as we're accompaniment so the segment is for those who missed it the first time because Fox also has the rights to wwe smackdown on Friday which has been going every Friday as well take. This is a you can find all this programming Fox. Our SEGMENT IS NASCAR driver. Wwe Personality or college basketball coach. I I give you the name of a person you have to tell me. Yes which one of those three they are The last time we played this gave nineteen different names. You got nine rights your bad almost fifty fifty nine. We're nineteen just pretty solid. We're talking about shooting percentage. I'll take a little worse not better. So that's how we're going to do and I'm going to. I'm going to warn you straight away. That every coach that I put on this list for this time around I made another list of nineteen just to keep it standardized the CPA do better than nine every coach on this list. It is there I see. It'll be their first season at their school next seas. So their brand new hires so makes it a little harder. Are you ready tate yes. I'm ready Shuka so so the way this work is I would say like Matt. Kenseth for example would say racecar driver race car driver. I would say Lavar Georgia and you would say coach coach right so the that that's how that's how this is GonNa work. Those of you score now are eyrie thing buckle up our first name. William Byron coach years a Nascar driver. He drives the twenty four. He drives the Jeff. Gordon why are you serious? Yeah can you believe that Outta here? That's what I'm saying. I don't want you drive. You should drive twenty one twenty one brad. Corn Coach is a coach Southeast Missouri State. Yes you got that one Chad Finchem Insurance Element. I'm GONNA go driver. That is a NASCAR DRIVER. You look at you. Drew McIntyre coach. Ww Wrestler actually. I think drew McIntyre might be most famous wrestler list. So yeah it's not a great in Landon bussey driver. He is the head coach at alcorn. State well I like ALCORN STATE TO I. Apologize James Drake. That's a coach. He is a WW wrestler. That's a good name that does that is a good coach. You should get out wrestling and go to coaching to Cayo sydell wrestler. He is the head coach at UNC. Wilmington he's a Chris. Holtman wow limit or not. Yeah that's what would the name that if I see on paper. I know you said that Mike. Yeah I probably mispronounced. It probably not helping so we'll let me let me trick jet once you three or four five six four five set. Yes you got that one. I'm trying to keep out here. We go I'm sorry. Oxford's Peyton Royce hate driver in driver driver. Ww Wrestler in Fact Female Risk Their Heating Royce at that. When you a once? I'm learning a lot five hundred. You've got wrong tyler rettig. That's a driver. That is a NASCAR driver. That's the driver Steve Smiley. That's a coach. That is a coach. That is the head coach. Northern Colorado Austin theory that is a wrestler definitely wrestler. That is definitely arrested at is still goals. Devolve theory it's a pretty good name Austin theory. I like salad tied Dylan. That's Austin Dillon's broiler. That's the driver. I know the Dillon family. That's North Carolina. I thought that might be easy for you but I thought I thought it might trip you. Maybe thought he's arrested also. Does he still drive? The three-car Austin three. Yeah that's part of my problem. Askar honestly is like I remember junior went from the number eight hundred. Eighty eight eight to me was always deal. Jarrett so when you have. Dale driving aid is still junior. Junior went to eighty eight to hell with this all the all the people that had the budweiser number eight tattoos on their on their backs. All the ladies tramp stamp the Budweiser Number Eight. What I gotta get a mountain dew. Eighty eight now. Not Junior was like the perfect story of someone just killed with so he and Andy Roddick where the two guys they had so much and Freddie do that whole crap again. Much pressure on him. I was like there's no like Lebron like all them they had so much pressure. The how you succeed with the new debate is Andy. Roddick afraid to do honestly. I think it's Roddick right. We got a few more here. Michael McDowell driver. That's the driver look at you. You're firing on Clayton. Bates that the driver. That is a the head coach of Western Michigan. He should be a driver. I that's driver day. John Hunter Nemechek Bressler a NASCAR driver. Okay wow he goes by John. Hunter Angelo Dawkins Coach. That is the wwe wrestler all right. We got three hundred Keith. Lee Coach that is a ww wrestler. What has happened to wrestling? Why these regular names? What what happened to the undertaker's I'll tell you why your ratings are down or whatever going on. I know like these irregular names. I need characters but having a character you got you got wrestlers named Jim Cunningham. Yes it's not gonNA work even with the GONNA ones is all right to more bucky. Mc million wrestler that is the head coach at Samford. I wish all time wrestler named Bucky MC million. Are you kidding me that guys in the wrong profession or very much the wrong? It's going to climb the ranks pretty quickly and finally the last name on the list. Rick Pitino wrestler deadly professional wrestler. Thanks guys turned heel too many times count of it. You got eight out of nineteen according my calculations. Let's we've we've found your handicapped. You're the you're about half half way we'll know I am the tyreek Evans Rookie of the year campaign. I am just like I put up shots and I get my numbers and I go home. I do you enjoy that game. I actually enjoy it. It's fun coming up with these names because there's a lot of opening type of names. Yeah I've learned about honestly and I'm so far removed from NASCAR. I think you hit the nail on the head. I think it was the Dale Junior drama that that turned me away from sport. I didn't know why it was but now I think that's the other part. It's like piecing together wrestling when I stopped watching Nascar then also now I feel like back in it. Yeah Yeah I'm trying to get back in and it has nothing to do with my affiliation with five. Love it Brad. Keselowski won the race last night. Chase Elliott Blewett. Took a late. Pit was not happy about that his his race strategists said like I don't think so then erupted. Bird had the great car. The car did not win. The car driver did not win. That's that's that's the gate you gotTa make shots. Got Shot slammed the Coca Cola. Six hundred. I'm going to be honest with you I though Denny Hamlin won the race but I guess that was last week's race so that was weeks that we're we're we're pivoting to a NASCAR podcast. Just keep me up today. Let me know what's going. She'll be do dirty laundry. Should we do a couple of stories here? Yeah it's been a while and we have a couple of good ones all right. So here's dirty. Logic reminder sinister stories titus tatum Djamil Dot Com will read them on the show and I think these two are areas so this says about two years ago. I attended a power. Five teams scrimmage which happened to be officiated by notorious referee. Whose name you know afterwards. A few of US headed to the team's practice facility for Post Game Boozing. Pizza head coach's office after about an hour of shooting. The Shit we heard a loud voice coming down the hall in this referee come strolling in with a fifth of Tito's and a check for a thousand dollars to donate to the head coach. Jerry sorry I think that was the end of the story. How as a pretty good story? They let a lot Man for the rest of the night. This ref held court telling us all sorts of stories while pounding cranberry and Tito's still had a few too many in passed out on the couch in the office. You literally stood in the center of the room for hours while everyone else just at Nov. How much this guy loved himself. It was awesome. That's the industry. So basically I think I think this story exists. Because we're supposed to know who the is and I think I have a good idea the rappers and rents story is the rafters comes into get shit. Faced in coach's locker room in the past is out on couch. That's pretty interesting right. I hope it's Carl has. I don't want to speculate but Carl has I think is. I think his initials are TV girl. But I hope it's the I don't want to name names but I will name initials I think it might be. Is there any other sports besides basketball? Where the official so famous the NFL that we know some of the I think the NFL but like well. This is my problem. I understand what you're saying but I also wonder. Do we know it just because like I watch college basketball and if we watched like NBA NBA roofs Scott Fosters. Say Oh when I really know if Scott Foster. Who's the WHO's the Ed Malloy shows about that? As a senior. Stay the really skinny part of their meloy and then Football Ed Hockey League and hockey the guns I think you gotTa have a thing though to be known in Pro Sports Teddy you don't feel like you don't in college basketball. You don't have to have a thing like you don't have to be like TV. Teddy obviously does have thing but like people know Jamie lucky. I guess your thing. Is this your horrible thing? Is that you. Yeah exactly like. You're getting harassed by whatever coach and you're also trying to make like those guys love baking but home call in the arena. Yes that's what they live about. Lucky Yeah Terry Ymer is one people. Don't really hate him much. Yeah they they. They hate everybody. Everybody everybody eats Tim Higgins. Is Tim Higgins right? Tim riggins is the Friday Night Lights. Emberg RIGGINS is the. Yeah Tim. Higgins is the guy. The old duty retired years ago. He was always really jovial but everybody hated I liked would always talk to me during timeouts to Vegas Call Timeout. I'd be standing on the peripheral. Trying to hit on the sideline reporters. Whoever whatever big to number sideline reporters worked in the game? Just like trying to be popping her head in trying to listen to the trying to listen to the asthma. It was more often than Chris so we should have Chris on the PODCASTS. Just talk about all the Times. She would pop into huddle. And she's like what coach modest. And then I would just make up stuff. But the Tim Higgins. But he's we need more shooters these. We put a gun at the end of the bench. We're saying we're about to put titus in And then every so often when Tim Higgins and call the game he he did the same thing he just like papa up over talking to anyway. I don't know how we got on that. Those of US move onto the next door. I am currently a student and was very recently a member of the band with a high level division. One team we are a fringe Blueblood for context. Our coach is a notoriously high strung titus who was generally pretty closed off to the public after every game. Three of my trumpet friends. And I would stick around in the band. Warm-up room slash headquarters mess around by playing our instruments and talking loudly etc. Keep in mind that in our arena. The Band warm-up room is located immediately next to the pressroom during my final your ban that had a major downsize due to some issues within the program after one particularly tough loss. The four of us did what we always did and made our way to the tunnel to the warm up room To chill leaving the door to the room open at one point joking around my friend. Start playing notes as high as loud as he could. The notes for high is not tires. Something this is something. We often did being the competitive. We are the rest of US. Joined in resulting in a scene and disruptive wall of sound after forty five seconds of our blasted a security guard walked into the room and asked us to put the instrument this away since the press conference for the game was about to start and they hear us. We apologize in. The guard left the door open. That should be the end of the story but it isn't because friend one. Got The brilliant idea that if we simply close the door the sound would be muted enough that they wouldn't be able to hear the press room so again being the dumb is that we. Are we close? The door started blasting music again. I don't think we made it even fifteen seconds before the door flew open. It was the head coach. Who has his. He has face red as a tomato. What the fuck is going on here? Are You fucking kidding me? We're trying to have a press conference. Could you quiet down for two fucking seconds I can have all of you permanently ban from this arena the shah. This shit happens every fucking game. It was at that point. I realized that for the past few years he and his players had every note that we have played after the Games. I asked one of the walk ons about it in class a month later and he confirms to be true. It had always seriously pissed off. The coach is only enough. We never face any disciplinary action for what happened. Probably probably because coach didn't want people to know about him blowing up on random students that reminds me. I hear that story a reminds me of the Johnny Knoxville. The Jackass thing where they have the horn in the bushes with the Guy. Playing Ping told police. Stop doing that. And you're like Yeah Yeah. We'll start versus. We get it for sure. We I I can think of that is Arizona and that is Shawn Miller in. That is why they lost to but I like it. Yeah I feel like it's pretty a fringe blueblood checks out. We had a major downsizing due to some issues within the program. Zona had a yes. They lost the Buffalo. There was some issues in the program. I was thinking my guess would be Yukon that the French blueblood issues within the program Kevin Ollie. Fire situation that but Kevin Ollie have a reputation as being a notorious titus earn enough about you didn't stick around long festival when a title though wonderful. That's all yeah. Let's that's fine too. We'll stop there but no I. I enjoy dirty laundry. Grade Synthesis industry stories titus and Tita gmail.com. We have fun reading them. And we're desperate for contents. Policemen shouts closeout states shut. Up Patrick Ewing coach Patrick Ewing. He was dealing with covid. Nineteen we saw those reports. Apparently he's leaving hospital feeling better and You know as much as we talked about George Shannon. What's going on with program? You Love Patrick Ewing. And what he means with basketball. We Love Biggs and we're happy. Something's gotta go. Patrick Ewing Sweat. You know he's got A. We got Scott Stop Georgetown. Georgetown has been all the players will leave. You got the last dance situation where they're just shown him get dumped on over overnight Hazard might be. I think this guy I think. Patrick Ewing needs a documentary about him more than any athlete in the world because like his entire existence is basically been boiled down to like Jordan and pippen. And that's that's the opposite really. What was now the opposite but like yes. He was dumping as well like Blake. People KNICKS FANS. Talk about how much they love. Patrick you and I feel like people that weren't expands kind of laugh. And they're like Oh my God. That's how bad your your franchises. That Patrick Ewing. That's your goat go. He's pretty good. He's unbelievable we need we need. We need a documentary series. It remind people. Get Patrick. Ewing was of the flavor so should've went back to back. Titles we remember. Eighty four eighty five eighty five. Villanova boys played out of there S. The most unlikely national title game played by the way on that one. I WanNa Shout Shadow dickey who is maintaining the integrity of the game. Respects the rules He tweeted about Lance Armstrong. There's there's the documentary thing the last lance last land's pretty good pretty good stuff. Ali One installment. I'll be honest. I had no interest in watching it with. Then someone put out the video of Lance Armstrong just flipping off the camera and say F F you over and over still GonNa Watch but I it Kinda WanNa Track. Italy's now watch What means come out of this or something? But I've definitely so the last lance is coming on Indicative thoughts about whether he's not whether or not you're gonNA watch eat tweets this on twitter very tough for me to appreciate anything. Armstrong achieved knowing. He was one of the biggest cheater ever to compete in any sport. Certainly not my kind of guy so I just wanted to shout out dickey. He does not associated with cheaters. He does not associate with people that get fired for having three different scandals solely the good name of one of the Great College Basketball Programs in America. This is not something Dickie does he does not Stanford cheaters who does not stand for people that do not all the rules and I respect that about him so China it is pretty wild to think about the like. I watched it. I watched the last Lance and at one point at the end. You know he's like you know. I was Lebron jeans. I was Michael Phelps like I am in that class of people. That's a little line from the Docks de ski no. I don't think he did but he bitches Michael emissions everybody's like I'm Lebron James. Whatever and you know he's just like but if Lance Armstrong was figuring out everyone was like you know doping in blood transfusions like those teams that would do this if laze Armstrong was cool. You if you had just been kind of like Pete. Rose which is like look man. I understand what happened but I'm just trying to make myself right still greatest or armless. Jetta and I think people like mainland. Aren't it's great leads? Did what you just said. He'd get on the double birds. Told you guys everyone else's cheating and also I wasn't cheating. I guess I was but okay right to say that and I say my thoughts having not watched a single second of the are staying number one thoughts and prayers Rick Reilly of. Everyone seems to think his. Move Away from sports illustrated. Espn's doomed his career. I will always remember as he put every single Yawns Jill Armstrong basket would fight. Anyone he was he was part of that Lance Armstrong. The legal team wasn't he cheated. He was like no identity and the moment that Armstrong tested positive for H. Whatever the hell was everyone found out Armstrong was was opening. Rigali displayed Diddley. It was never from. That's pretty much how I remembered going is like. Oh word about take my money and go to. That's number one number. Do you saw it right. We talked about this because every Are we made the joke? That every sports sportstalk every documentary. General agrees worse place But the the real documentary acres which was about doping and cycling. I wish someone remade. But that initial documentary was. That's that's that's my thought is like that. That documentary spoiler is sets out to guys like an amateur cyclist. He started doing steroids under under this premise of like. How much do steroids help? I wonder how much better I'll be cycling so I'M GONNA do. Steroids try to cheat on purpose. Document the whole thing And then halfway through alerts the whole thing pivots becomes a completely different documentary. I WanNa see the first documentary. I Still WanNa know how much steroids work Vassar by. And if I don't get that document I just might make it myself. I just might just do a few steroids cycles report back on on what I've learned about myself. Yeah no no I like it. It's like an average joes Kinda spin on it but you're dislike if I play in the NBA. Or if I play Bass because it. Let's see how big of an advantage it really is? You know like let's figure out like how many like Sammy Sosa Mark mcgwire. I really have right right. Barry Bonds that much advantage was also really really good baseball. We're bustle. We are slapping the ball out of the park when they say steroids can make. You hit a curveball. I've seen people try to hit baseballs and they don't have shot so I I understand the the frustration I. I grew up in the steroids era baseball so I was used to arrive like hitting like sick. I will serve your Barry Bonds in a home run every time we went up to bat bet is like the armor dude. Dude God damn ironman up there with military grade armor on his right right elbow standard over the plate. Yeah like thought they should have been barry bonds. We need baseball bag so I miss baseball so much. Man I we we gotTA figure this out. They gotTA figure this out. I don't I don't know what else to say. Figured out that that's my. That's my official statement on on Sports. Coming back the current world it out of my life but man watch barry bonds like knowing every time he came to play. Is you to be a home run? And he's playing on the west coast so like I remember watching so many games. We're super lazy and related. Yeah thank eleven thirty. I gotta wait a just got one more bet okay. It's the eighth inning and the giants are down three. And I'm like I'm GONNA stay up. I'm GonNa see what happens and then bonds every single time just it out of the park. You're unbelievable a Jeff. Kit Basit in bonds arreckx like over into the water. The could news fighting for the ball. It's like man love it. Sure trying to the jerk. He's like skipping it up Still Oregon. Ya My nightmare for. Oh Man all right moving on. I WANNA shout out to guys that are going Pro Jordan. Tucker of Butler has declared for the NBA draft. So Congratulations. He averaged nine points. A game for rebounds lesson one assist per game shot. Thirty six percent from the field offered team to finish. Fifth in the biggie. So congratulations to him on his lengthy NBA career. He has voted for him. Shirley also Davi Day moderate of Texas Tech. A guy who we we came to love during the twenty nineteen march to the national. A has decided he's GonNa go pro in Italy. So shot up. Shot him because Madison Square Garden for people. That don't remember lable number one team in the country day in Texas tech in crispy betsy. I thought that was a big moment for already. Had A great game there and I think at that point he's like Hey Shannon. Msg Up late in the states have been no final four. Let's go back to Italy. What else is there goes? Yeah exactly what else is that it? That's it for me yes. Shut up Memorial Day. It's Memorial Day. Shutout shout outs Paul Pierce Brosnan. Stop Five what he had Wayne Gretzky and stop flight enough of out the Matt Barnes. Saying he doesn't one is he doesn't deserve his ring on election train of thought as guy who proudly wears my rings all the time and does not stop talking about them. I think it undermines my position on the rings that I want. So He's hurting rings culture yet respect respect Rings Culture Matt But yeah shadow a shadow memorial day. Hope everyone had a time. Obviously thoughts thoughts with other fallen soldiers. All that we're two guys that No a lot of people that served means were from places where a lot of her friends. Yes take the military route and we are to cowards. Who would never in a million years do that? So it means a lot to us that the people do people nick sacrifice and It is not lost on us. So thank you for that Abbott. For for all the families that are mourning their lost lost loved ones. Anything else to put things it. I WANNA say yet again for people that don't know enough about Eddie. Sutton go back. Watch them highlights enjoy Eddie sudden. He's a great character and the Kentucky Days with Rex Chapman especially some symphonic moments. Because REX's Awad Kirk all right. Thanks Doug I leave for for coming on and tickets time on his holiday to vote to share thoughts on on sudden. We appreciate that. We'll be back on Friday see guests.

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Full Show (Deadly Tom Brady, Jason Garrett, Carmelo Anthony, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz)

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Full Show (Deadly Tom Brady, Jason Garrett, Carmelo Anthony, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz)

"Good morning everyone. Welcome I think for some general. That is Nick Chris. BUSSARD ART is joining us this morning. Good Morning Chris. Thanks for spending your holiday week with us here here first things. I love having glad you're three days here. And he still healthy. So so that goes against your spiritual here but I I would imagine by three in fact once again I'm incorrect so once again I'm on brand. It is the day before the day that we give. Thanks in this morning. The gift that keeps on giving the Dallas cowboys and the hot seat currently held by one Jason Garrett here we go oh guys cowboys hosting the eight and three bills tomorrow. They do so with a six five record and with Philly nipping at their heels. At this point only a win gene could quite the noise surrounding this cowboys team. Whether you call it a must win or not. It's certainly is for Jason Garrett. Mike Florio says the cowboys could fire. Garrett's Friday if they lose to the bills tomorrow. So Nick Is Jason Garrett Coaching for his job on Thanksgiving Day. You should be and it's been something or last few years of a fool's errand to try to fully anticipate what Jerry Jones was going to do. You would have imagined that if Jerry Jones didn't fire Jason Garrett after the nine and seven season after the disappointment of thirteen and three didn't fire Jason Garrett after the three and five start last year that that when they rally when they win seven eight and then when a playoff game that I would have been suspended then he would have given Jason Garrett a contract extension. He didn't do that he didn't so when I of expected him to big zagged very often. But there would be no reason not to fire Jason Garrett if they lose to another playoff team they would have played at five games against teams currently qualified for the playoffs. They would be own five in those five games. They have been favored in eleven of their twelve games this year and if they lose the only game they weren't favor of the Patriot game the they would have six wins out of eleven times when Vegas said they were the best option. I what is the most underachieving team in football. The browns we've talked about the falcons are a mess. And the sure. Maybe the rams of the Rams I think maybe with the rams. I don't look at them quite as underachieving because I anticipated to struggles they've had and so much of that is tied to the quarterback for the browns as bad as Freddie. Kitchens has been so much of that is tied to Baker Mayfield's turnovers to cowboy's quarterback. Chris has been awesome yet. The rams who are in distress have six wins. The the the browns were in distress have five wins and the cowboys are sitting there at six and five in an easy division with an easy cross conference earns division that they're playing in the AFC east side from the Patriots. And yet they're still there just barely treading water. So I would fire Jason Garrett I if this had been a regular workweek I would fire Jason Garrett on Monday two days ago. You can't do that when they play on a Thursday. If they lose as touchdown favorites at home on Thanksgiving to Josh Allen the buffalo bills even though the bills are a good team this year to me that would be the final Straw but Jerry seems to have have different math on what is going to be because so many of the things you've said in addition to that being his relationship with Jerry Jones we know he loves Jer Jason Garrett and Dan he's been so patient with him as you alluded to over the last ten years. I have been in the camp that there's no way he'll make a change during the season but now the evidence is mounting that he will because number one his criticism which he doubled down on yesterday. Jerry Jones is criticism of Jason Gary. That's that's the first time ever. He's come out publicly and been so critical of Garrett during his coaching tenure. We Know Troy Aikman was critical on the national broadcast. Aikman of course a cowboys hero. And not that I put too much in the DAS- Bryant tweets and says but yesterday Dez Bryant tweeted that Jason then Garrett needs to do a better job of relating to the black players on the team. Now when I'm going to say about that is my guess I don't know for sure but I guess I'm I'm assuming Dez. Bryant is in touch with players in that locker room of course so that's not just coming out of thin air. I think there's something he said he's not racist not accusing him of that. He just can't relate to those players so all of these things coming together then. You mentioned Buffalo. I think Buffalo's the worst eight or seven seven or nine win team in the League. They beating one detained Tennessee and Tennessee. That's when they were struggling. So if you lose to Buffalo I think Jerry will be like look. This season is essentially over any. We may make the playoffs because Philadelphia so bad but if we get there. We're not going to do anything. We can't beat winning teams so I think he would go ahead and make the change and look. I probably would be Christmas Art. You mentioned him yesterday. Defensive Coordinator Resort is fiery. And he's known as is a great competitor. That is the opposite of Jason Geared. And usually. That's what you want when you bring in an interim where you bring in a new coach somebody that's the direct direct opposite of what was failing so. I actually think you might be able to feel like okay. Recharged going to fire these guys up. Get them going and less guy. In maker lay hard for an interim coach. The cowboys aren't playing hard. If for no other reason than they know the if the interim coach were to somehow get the head coaching job most of the players. Stay in place. You bring a brand new end coach. There's going to be much more roster turnover you think. This would be a different conversation if it wasn't Chris Rashard if it was someone who was more of viable candidate to be a head coach next year. Would we be having a different conversation or some of the hesitation on whether you move Jason Garrett midseason because there isn't a viable guy it's going to step in and perhaps be will they do have Rod Marinelli. There's been an NFL head coach. Even though he was an unsuccessful. NFL head coach. I think it is less about who the interim would be and more about playing your final domino four this season. You don't want this season to be a total. Oh failure it is in even. If no coach in January the point yesterday they won three out of five division titles. That doesn't matter to me much at all all because this year's team the winning them in the past might matter but for this season scraping into the playoffs at nine and seven because Philadelphia's so uh-huh disappointing is a massive under achievement. Like all nine win. Seasons are not created equal buffalo. You mentioned already had a successful season like today. The Buffalo is. They've only made the playoffs. Once since the music city miracle they can get to nine or ten wins with this roster that is a hell of a year for their for the cowboys choice. Win is playing better than I ever thought he could. When you had the momentum from the end of last season said Oh wants a Mari got here look how good we are to be a team that does not have a single quality win on their resume that to me is a massive underachievement and if coaching matters matters in this league what what else can we blame? It'll like the defense has not been top five. But it's been good. Zeke has not been top three. But he's been good Zach Zach. Jack Dee is playing the best football of his career. So who else is left. And you can't blame it on Jerry and Steven Jones. They have acquired quality elite talent and they paid. Maybe overpaid to keep some of that talent for this season you said. It's about the expectation all the money he spent. offseason Ezekiel Elliott Lal L. Collins in Jalen Smith and Jerry Jones came into this expecting to compete for maybe win a super bowl that was expectation to US housemaid. And look they were Shard. He is viewed as a future head coach. The interesting thing would be if you bring it Chris Rashard now if he does just a fabulous job I mean. Maybe he's your guy but also think they got is on Lincoln Riley and other and whatever gets them to the conference championship are are you kind of in a in a tough situation. Where do you keep him or do you go out? And get the Lincoln Riley or somewhere like listen. The name that I'm going to throw out there is Greg Roman. I I think what you see. I wouldn't Dacca's not Lamar by any stretch but Dak isn't effective runner. An particularly effective red zone runner and that is something. They have not been able to unlock the way they should be able to. I think you could use a little bit of what Greg Roman has done with Lamar. Not as much and make the team and help Dak take a further step next season. But just there's four coaches in football who have a current coaches who have coached at least fifty games. I never been to a conference championship. Pinch Game Adam Gates. He's already been fired. Wants his probably on his way out of another place. Pat Shurmur already been fired. Wants probably on his way out of the second. Another place. The only two coaches on that that list to never be fired coach at least Fifty Games is bill. O'Brien with ninety one wins. Maybe the worst coach in football and Jason Garrett with one hundred forty forty seven games in ninety one games for bill. Brian not went hundred and forty seven games coach. Only four of coach Steven Fifty without making it to a conference championship pitcher game. He's had his opportunity no doubt they have been more than patient with him. He can't complain at all if they shot. No shot back here first things first there. We are. Make sure you get your Thanksgiving started with us. Tomorrow we're going to be Johnson. Great show joined by special guest. Jay Glazer CURME AFI he. Jimmy Johnson will all be nick and I'll probably stop by at some point. It's going to be a lot of fun. Join US tomorrow morning on first things first all right. We'll get to Kwai in a second but first first nuggets and wizards and we'll Barton doing the three sixty span before dropping the diamond nickel Yokich for the Laos Nasty. Oh that's Nice Yokich. I think. That's his highs in jump trump but that is a nice place. lookie Martin is a really nice playoff been inland shaded. Good Game Clippers Mavericks. Luca Danni Chits driving arriving somehow finding the cutting Dwight Powell for the easy slam. There you speak for yourself on game. Gene I'm guessing you didn't bet the Mavericks in the second half I listen guys in in the second half Donaldson respect for the Clippers Down Sixteen. I thought they could cut it to single digits. Luca top night for Luca. Good thing he got to the free along because aside from that he had a tough evening more from this one Patrick Beverley leading the break finds a trailing Paul George for the Big One handed slam fourth bus player on the clippers. I Patrick Beverley to the best player on the clippers. Paul George Look at that. Go get it young Fella. Paul George is last year even though he's turned the MVP race underappreciated created. Yeah and and this year I there's understandably so much hype around qualify. Because of our last season ended Paul. George is sensational no question sensation the Beverly Fifth Behind Montreal okay. William's thirsts makes a list. Let's stick with this game. Both teams riding a five game win streak both teams at full strength as Leonard and Paul George not only played but outplayed Luca Danni the claw. PG thirteen combining for fifty four points clippers win one fourteen ninety nine. They're now four. No when they're two stars there on the court together. Nick are the clippers. The biggest threat to the Lakers curse to win a title or does that depend on when the two stars are on the court. Well listen of course. There are no threat if wise is something happened squire and he's not around for the playoffs else. Well let's just assume relative health in the postseason. No I don't believe the big threat I I I think Milwaukee presents a very unique challenge. I think Milwaukee's walkies. The one team in the league could play the clippers and a series and or the Lakers and series. Pardon me and say we got the best guy you don't because that's how good Jaanus is. And I think you honest continuing to ascend and I think the rockets because the variants that three pointer could present a unique challenge the reason that I do not buy into the clippers. The way everyone no one else does now again. I think I'm GonNa make the playoffs. Of course listen. I think they are one of the six teams in basketball. I that's what I that's what I will say about the clippers. I would not be shocked if they make the Western Conference finals. But I also would not be shocked if they end up in that four or five match up in the first round and get bounced. I I think the clippers because of what they are going to do load managing with Kawhi their path to the NBA. Finals is going to be much more difficult than it's going to be for the Los Angeles Lakers. And let's just assume for the sake of this discussion at some point in the playoffs. They play other. I think they have an enormous issue issue in this regard the clippers identity. Chris is supposed to be. We were told it's going to be the best defensive team in basketball. You have three of the top five perimeter defenders in the sport in Paul George Kawai and Patrick Beverley. That's great and that's important and I give them all all the credit in the world for that they do not have a rim defender and and having a perimeter defender does a great brimmer. Defenders does not do much for you in regards to Anthony Davis and in Lebron's career the only guys in the postseason who have given him any type of trouble are big minute. The Rim agree. I mean they would have seen him play. Paul George and quite Leonard and Andre Iguodala these great boomer defenders in the postseason and they might be a pain in the butt but Lebron Still Hill averages thirty he's still is dominant in those series and so the one thing that has been Lebron's Kryptonite if you will is a big man waiting for him at the Rim the clippers in a Roy Moore. Roy was the biggest factor in the one series against the Pacers. We're Lebron struggled a bit. Not Paul George and so the clippers. Don't have that and to me what's really interesting about these. Two teams is assigned for monitoring. Would olive probably goes to one of them. Neither one of them have bullets to shoot at the trade deadline because they shot them all to get Paul George. George Anthony Davis so these rosters are going to be mostly aside from buyout guys as presently constituted the lack of a big man defender Gender in regards. Anthony Davis and Lebron James to me is a reason that I don't think the clippers present. The biggest challenge the Lakers as somebody who picked the Lakers to win it. I who I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I like what you said and you know how this business is. I'm not thinking as a fan. I'm thinking as a guy that wants his pick to be right as we we want so. I want the Lakers to win it. But the Clippers scare me to no end I mean and and I don't Milwaukee I don't think can beat the Lakers you're right Janas might end up being the best player on the floor in that series. But who's I mean nicky. There's no second guy. But why the Clippers scare you to know it. One you talked talked about and you're right at the rim. I disagree with you. I think they do have the pieces. They have enough depth. Where if they wanted to go out and get? They're not getting a superstar big man but they could get a rangy seven footer at the rim. Who might be able to you know deter Lebron at the rim but beyond that number one? Let's start here. Why Leonard? He doesn't lose. I mean cool. Why he he's number one all time two hundred or more games played in NBA history of has the highest? Winning percentage ever seven point seven. Three eight seventy three point. Eight percent second is Magic Johnson. Okay the last time we saw Kawhi Leonard Lose in a playoff series was twenty seventeen and in that series they had the Golden State Warriors he was all San Antonio had the Golden State Warriors of Kevin Durant and Steph curry down. Twenty three points. It had been twenty five when he got her dangles. Now I've always said not. Only the warriors have come back to win that series but they would have come back and won that game but now after watching a y since then I mean. This guy is a winter last year. What he did in Toronto? Nobody expected that okay and now there are eleven into when he's on the floor. They've they have the best I know they don't have the best record as far as wins and losses but they have the most impressive record in the League's over beaten Houston Toronto. No no the Lakers. Dallas I mean. They've beaten all the bigwigs for the most part and when it remember defensively. I don't know if you're looking at the numbers and they're not that Nice heiser ninth in defense. Let Remember Paul. George just came back. Leonard sits out every third or fourth game so when they have their a full complement of players. I think their defense is to NASA's you got the coach. Obviously in Doc rivers. And here's another thing. Nick the Lakers have. I've got to match the clippers hunger. The Clippers are some dogs from Paul. George somewhat but MANTRAS Herro Patrick Beverley. Now the Lakers do have avery Bradley. Danny Danny Granny Green for sure and Rajon Rondo their their dogs but they have got to show me that they can match the clippers hunger. And that's what I want to see and again I picked the Lakers. But I'm telling you the Clippers scare me. Nobody else in the league scares me for the lake. But listen to what you both said. When is in the game if they're at full strength both of you were Throwing these caveats out there and having this conversation there's no guarantee we not even sure how healthy he is so deep into the playoffs. He's going to go. We're not even sure. How many games Paul George? You're going to play together. Therefore no wanted to play together when to play together if he's healthy enough to be what you have to factor that to me the reason I'm not factoring it into this. Specific discussion is if not in the series. They got no shot right. But the re where I will factor in this here he. He is going to Miss Games throughout the year and the record is going to suffer because of it and how tired how. How much work are you going to have to put forth in late? April and early May to get through a tougher series than you. Otherwise should have to play when the Lakers are sweeping the timber wolves and urine a six or seven game battle battle with Utah or with Denver or with Houston or whomever. You play if you do fall in four or five matchup and one point that I do want to picnics with yours. Because I hear this all the time and it's correct quiet. Learners is winning percentage in the history of basketball. I think it's very important and I'm glad you mentioned new. Second highest is it's Magic Johnson. What are those two guys? As having common drafted to all time teams with all time players already there it's a little misleading because the best players ever typically go to teams that were terrible right when they got there right so the Bulls and it took Michael a couple years to build it up. It took Lebron couple years to build it up quite goes to Duncan Spurs. Magic goes to Kareem's Lakers and because of that they don't have the thirty to fifty rookie season that ruin their career. Win Percentage in this regard quiet a winner is an excellent player. The other question I do have is in the postseason. Are they going to be asking why to guard Lebron. Because I don't know that they are. I watched them play. Houston they asked Patrick Beverley to guard James James Harden you try to put Patrick Beverley. Lebron James You are drawing dead. It's not twenty eleven J. J. Doland rate. I think you'll be on him a little bit and I think that is a terrible Lebron. It has learned in the last decade. He will take him to the block and he will ruin but here here look. Here's what the clippers will do will be on him at times. Paul George will be at at times. More more heartless will be on him at times and beverly here and there. I don't think beverly have a steady diet of Lebron but I don't know about if Lebron is gonNA take him in the post consistently league because that's not their offense and the last thing you WanNa do is get out of what you do. Well because of the way their garden you I wanNA see who they have to guard. Anthony Davis I think. Come the reason investigator. Anthony Davis needs to get more down. Low is doing a lot of stuff on the perimeter right now which I understand if he gets down low more in the postseason when they play him at the center more. I don't think the clippers flippers have an answer for that match right there. At least as President Nelson Kick your Thanksgiving morning off on Fox Khalil Mack and the bears take on the lines in an NFC north division battle all starts with a special two hour pregame show live from New York starting at ten thirty am eastern on Fox and Fox Sports Eh. That'll be fun. Time now for us to go. Viral hasn't been the best season for von Miller and the broncos that doesn't mean though the former super bowl. MVP cannot have a little refund. Check out Vaughn in the snow in the parking lot of the broncos facility. I don't get it. What's with men needing to show off that they you could catch a cold? Walk around in a stadium without a shirt Ali. These men you're talking about. You will never catch like the way I'm going out. There like spell broncos bare chest I lived in alcohol and and I don't think he's he's been drinking. Buddy listen I went to syracuse for four four years. Yeah seventy five inches. Hell no man you know what. Go ahead the minor girth to protect. Oh why don't you think it's a guy thing. One Miller no fat Guy Strong Ongai let me get a little more meat on by the way I get the drunk guy at the bills game with the beer belly does it von Miller. You've got nothing improvement. You everybody knows I'll tell you are look at this though. Go ahead here. We go stories to start your morning brought to you by the unexpected energy of Exxon Mobil Stephen F. Austin stunning number one ranked to duke last night with an overtime steel coast to coast buzzer beating. Layup Dukes Luke's first non conference home loss since the year. Two Thousand Nick. How big of a win was this awesome program? That's been a legitimate. NC SEE AA program made the tournament on a bunch of times recently. It's the biggest upset point spread wise by fifteen years in the last fifteen years in the NC double A.. But I feel like Chris. You're going going to see more instances similar to this where the small school. That's got a bunch of three and four year guys go gets especially early in the game against the program like Evansville Against Kentucky where you have so much turnover these guys have been playing together for a thousand as these other guys have been playing together for forty days and you can have an upset like this not that anyone expected them to win this game but in the modern college basketball. It's not that shocking. And you gotta be so happy for the kids at Stephen Paul. I totally agree with you. Stephen F. Austin starts three seniors two juniors young stars four freshman and Sophomore. So now I agree and this is actually good. It's like I said when Kentucky lost the Evansville this was good for them. Calipar can use that all year sandwiches chefs. You can use this all season long now to get your young blue chip all American guys who are one and done to know that they're not too good to be beaten by anybody all right onto the pros. Anthony Davis makes his his return to New Orleans tonight with his new team. As the PELICANS. Playing host to the Lakers the brow called it the game of the year for him iniquity. We expect from a D.. In his return returned tonight. Oh I think he's GonNa get some buckets now eight. He hasn't had a monster game. Since that forty and twenty game early in the season I listen the money. I lost betting on the mavs in the second half last night. We'll be one back. Betting on the Lakers against the thunder this crm. Sorry against the Pelicans this evening. I think I think Lebron will make it as has the point guard first and foremost priority. Get Anthony Davis involved early and often and silence that crowd similar to Lebron when he was in Miami what they did when they went back to Cleveland when he was getting booed early on Nick. I'm going to shock you. I don't like this quote from Anthony. Dave Oh game of the year against the six and eleven. PELICANS allicance now. Here's the clippers. The game two years the rockets Milwaukee Toronto Cheeser Boston in their BOSS TO WHOEVER DENVER BOSTON AUSTIN UTAH. The pelicans no yet history in big time. Ingrained you didn't take them deep. Look I get it. You want to go put something on them. You probably will but no you gotta start thinking like a champion do this first. He'll get those other come. He agrees with me. I love it the chips. They can't win. He's given me moving on some football. NFL Tom Brady's patriots ten in one. No Oh denying. TB twelve season has been a bit underwhelming many wondering if Brady still has that. Eat Factor in year twenty but one anonymous. NFL execs as coaches. Better or make sure. Their players aren't sleeping on. Tom went on to say this. You'd better not tell them you're gonNA go in there and kick Brady's expletive because he's not what he I used to be. Don't be fooled. This guy is completely deadly in two minutes of either the half four-minute select times when they can really move the ball. Nick you're shaking your ahead. Folks at home are soon going to see you by the claim that Brady can still be completely deadly when he needs to be A. I understand that Tom Brady has for two decades instilled a righteous amount of fear in the opposition. especially if it is a close game late and Tom Brady has the bowl and I would be lying. If I didn't say is a is a fan of a different team as a chief's fan that just last season when the chiefs just needed one stop to go to the super bowl in overtime but brady at the ball third and ten thirty and thirty two. I never felt comfortable. And it's part because of the chiefs evens we're mostly because the greatest of all time had the football but he isn't even the guy he was last this past January much less the guy. He was over the last two decades. What what Tom Brady is going to do? And what he does better to this day than just about any quarterback in football this side of Russell Wilson. He will not make the critical mistake. He