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02:37 min | 1 year ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"We don't know if Tom Thomson had a formal set of ideas about Canada and its art but Lauren Harris sure did and there's evidence on film of his lack of interest in painting a populated Land Art Historian historian Peter Larisa describes an Arctic expedition undertaken by Harris to the Arctic hoping to be inspired you know but what he found in the landscape of north was a wall he could not get through this wall is a wall always get beyond it the sketches and all that were done you know wally was on the vote and Harris had movie camera with them. You gotta you got came into some of the places with ship dog. The native people just poured onto the ship. It was all over full of people but not one of them occurs in the Harris. Pay Any of the Harris paintings the Artie there is one painting where he has a hot hot or something. That's the native people we live in because that's close as he got. He didn't paint paint the person's tall. Even though they were part of what he filmed they work part of what it was interested in painting at all. I have no doubt that Thomson would find his way into whatever nook or cranny could to find a good vista to paint or good little seen to paint Taj along little rapids on the Barron River here. We're up way up above the rapids but I can see how if you had a painting box walks and real predilection for a particular kind of beauty you you might figure a way to clamber down in there and set yourself up to capture a beautiful scene like the one. I'm looking down upon right now. From about twenty feet beat up maybe thirty feet.

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06:14 min | 1 year ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"Criticized way back in the seventies by another jesuit about my spirituality of modernism and and the thing that popped into my head before a new vegetables modernise word was authenticity. I'd like this painting because it has authenticity to it and I like myself myself because I'm seeking authenticity. That was something like that happened at that moment way back then somebody who's criticizing big for my attitudes attitudes which were wanted to be free from his attitudes against a lot of Control Alabama's going on authenticity yes. That's what I'm attracted attracted to. That's what I WANNA see and how I want to live but it's elusive it must be sought out often at a cost to ourselves as individuals and collectively as a society as a nation what we've received from from these generations artists enough in today makes us appreciate the moment but at the same time gotta be careful what what was that moment really about and for indigenous peoples. It was a scary time. It was it was the most brutal time you know as Tom. Thomson was unwittingly forging Canadian. Myth the theft of lands and destruction of indigenous families was in full swing. Gerald McMaster teaches indigenous visual culture and curatorial practice at Ontario College of Art and Design University in Toronto Hello and is a member of CICA first nation so I think that kind of narrative of this period when we think of this moment moment in time I will war that's what was going on and it was very brutal. The beginning of residential schools all that what we know today but sometimes it's clouded in in other narratives and I think we just have to be wary that indeed there are other narratives that are going outplay during this time. Gerald and I are hunkered down onto wooden chairs at the University of Toronto Arts Center and there's the third party with US perched on an easel. It's a dazzling Tom. Thomson Canvas called the pointers from his last winter his broken brush a strokes and use of color absolutely tickled the optic nerve you can join us and have a look at CBC dot ca slash ideas as s we talk our eyes wander over to the painting and rest on the giant hill the Kaleidoscopic Lake the mottled clouds on parade or the tiny figures on the water. I think the first thing that I noticed in this work was was that we're the people because quite often whether i Thompson or the later group seven the landscape was devoid of folks folks indigenous non-indigenous or even animals soon so it was a different kind of qualitative view of the landscape okay because it wasn't all inclusive it wasn't that all my relations kind of approach would rather someone who's keenly interested. Perhaps in the the forms forms the colors in the land and in the sky as well. I should say the land the sky the land water all of that combined together in this really interesting whole so third three boats these pointers I if you will there are used primarily by loggers so there's they're full of men rowing in one direction and it appears. There's a this kind of not a raft but it's a fairy of some kind ferrying a team of horses we pointed in the opposite direction and on the fair are you can see this one man in the orange shirt just leaning there you know there's this very simple the way that he the Angler proposed that he's got these. It's it's not stiff in the waters moving quite quickly like this and dazzling in that light and you can see these men just pulling their boats and it's hard to say where these men. Manohar there could be indigenous and non-indigenous together. You know they're loggers. They're extracting from the land so you actually I'm glad how'd you pointed at the guy in the orange because the first guy I thought when I saw it in person the first time was the felony yellow here and I've just noticed today that he's got his own little reflection yeah. He's got his own little chip. There doesn't remarkable but the landscape as as this professor Tim Inglewood suggest landscape and land or two different things land land has a sense of weight and space. You know you can't the way it is so vast whereas landscape starts to differentiate itself in the qualitative nece that that it has so so when you think think of Thomson and others going into the northern part of Ontario there were seeing obviously from the western tradition of landscape painting from I'm from that just the view of representing indigenous peoples on the other hand probably would see it but rather vastly different and that's the kind of display I try I to present when I was at the Kerio when we redid the Canadian galleries in two thousand and eight to show to juxtapose Thomson's Thompsons West Win along the couple bags that were done by an Nabi individuals back in the Eighteenth Century Truth.

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"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

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04:29 min | 1 year ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"Her reputation by that time as a teacher and as a professional artist was so great that Thompson felt as if we'd had kind of royal visit I mean he was ecstatic. He said he was delighted and pleased by her visit. He confided in a friend that he felt favored and honored over the interest of such renowned artist artist and he said that she was the first of the artist to recognize instantly what he was trying to do. The others didn't see it at first and that's pretty impressive. During that winter he started to paint with much more confidence and much more structure and he began to juxtapose certain brother acerbic colors which were not really wants is that he was closely associated with and he began to use very strong black contour lines by the time she visited Tom. Thomson at the Shack Doc Florence McGill had personally witnessed some of the most exciting artistic movements in Europe sheet immersed herself in the work of Vincent Van Gogh Paul Gauguin Gam in a group called the Naby as well as tease who taught her for a time she also spent time in Brittany in Ponta van with a group of upstart post impressionists called La Band and war she escaped from Europe in one thousand nine hundred fourteen on the eve of the Great War and she learned how to construct an EPI landscape using screen of trees to create what we call in art historical Lingo Rep who soir something that pushes pushes things back and the compositions are quite flat. They're inspired largely by Japanese prints what I find really fascinating about the view from the beach at accurate here which ages recognizable as the background of the Jack Pine is the the depth perspective. You're in this kind of curved Panorama Emma. That's actually not a parent on the canvas because the canvas is a flattened rendering of these hills this provides an illusion of recession without it being a kind of one point recession like the old world going into the distance exactly exactly so so she became very adept at constructing a whole range of types of landscape and she was known for mentoring young people she was famous for this and so I think what she did what she thought this is such a brilliant young artist maybe I can help him a little a little bit to bring out that artistic voice and so I think what she did was she gave him private lessons in that check Catherine Lockton and also happens to be the great great niece of Florence. McGill Very Catherine's preparing an exhibition of McGill Res Work and over the years. She's come across US some interesting items. I do have a painting that was for many years. consigned to the basement of my aunt's house with a screen of trees of of exactly the kind that we find in. Thomson's paintings painted I think about exactly the time and the screen of Birch Trees act as the repertoire for view of what appears to be melting ice and water and on the back of his canvas. There's a a sketch in probably charcoal it has to me the ring of a picture used as a demonstration piece by teacher to student as if to say and this is how you construct these sorts of landscapes and and this is how you build them up using a palette knife and it just the kind of thing she could have done on the brink of his departure for Canoe Lake in the spring of seventeen..

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01:30 min | 1 year ago

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"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

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09:18 min | 1 year ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"In two thousand seventeen eighteen the McMichael Canadian collection brought wayland and Thompson face to face on its gallery walls and in beautiful and provocative book the myths entails we value most the ones we put I end up being the ones that purport to tell the story to the rest of the world to every neophyte who comes under the spell of Tom Thomson while it may require more effort. It's good to keep the true breadth and depth of the Tom Thomson mythos else in mind and to examine it with a discerning heart. It's a mythos that drives auction prices into the stratosphere which really means the the paintings are priceless and it's a mythos that reaches clear across oceans. My name is Jordan pronounced and Scottish manner. I'm the director Michael Canadian collection. I'm British. Yes indeed yeah. That's great though that's great. If you wouldn't mind just describing to me how you came to to Tom Thompson's work well. It happened a long time ago actually back in the one thousand nine hundred eighty S. I was working in the Royal Academy in those days in London and I was based in the library and and I just came across a book simple as that I was intrigued because it was Thompson's work particularly bicker seven two I was so immediate and on although it was using techniques that were recognized these postimpressionist bright colors dabs dabs of paint very painfully it. Nonetheless didn't look like any landscape I've ever seen and so this was the assumption this was Canada. This was somehow different front could not be Britain. It could not be Russia could not be Norway. This Canada looked like and of course that's an intriguing idea to follow through. I've I've seen what Lauren Harrison tontons painting. I went to being in that wish Tommy Thompson painted and what you come out of is thinking well. It doesn't like Tom Thompson painting. He translated it into his own language and yet I can see as I say I've talked to many any many Canadians who say you must you must look at those landscapes. Look exactly like that. Don't we've learned to look at them. In that that way we project onto landscapes. That's the that's a evidence of success my goodness you know if you're an artist who can actually change the way you look at things. They're very few dumb. Ian Jardine has a particular gift for expressing just why we've struggled to make peace with Thompson's death. Maybe it's his transatlantic point of view which affords him a wide angle look at the story. The reality of it all seems to have struck him after screening. Tom Sometimes in film at his previous post. The dulwich picture gallery in London a few years ago. I had to get up. Thank the the producers and I'm afraid I absolutely blocked embarrassing and it was not drafted canoe floating upside down the last image in the film and I'm sorry just even even now I can't. I haven't got to grips with this whole and I don't think Canada has really and I think that's why people why there is such an industry of kind of looking at trying to find reasons for it. There is no reason for it. It doesn't really matter I mean you've paddled up on July eighth and didn't come back and then nothing can bring him back but even even now I think Canada's still struggling to come to terms with that because not only because he was so brilliant but also there's something about his image which it feeds into that so well that man look good in a Tuque. I'm just saying you know. I've never seen a photo of Tom. Thomson just didn't look like it'd be imposed posed by the young Gary Cooper. He just seems to have his life seems to have been photographed in an all filming way. They looked like stills from film you you know he was just very food to genetic. He's very silent. You don't have his voice ever. He wasn't recorded too. You have silent beautiful brilliant genius and you can never get closer to him than that. The more I allow this this unknowing knowing sort of void to be the more. I seem to be getting from the the paintings Is there something unique about a painting that can do that to a person. I think it's part of the you know it's partly a response to a brilliant technician at work which is immediate and that's so when something is is that you feel you're close to the artist but I think when you also have all of these kinds of myths surrounding surrounding and growing and new books being written every every year you have this kind of richness as swirling cloud of of Fort Fort World surrounding the person who is absolutely silent and gone and yet the work still speaks so it's a very rich mixture and I think the two feet on each other you know so that you no longer just look with is you're looking with a whole kind of mindset satin and that's very special to him. I it occurs to me all the time standing in front of a little sketch or even the finished painting by Tom Thomson you feel it behind the eyes so there's that personal identification with him to that again. Part of this drive saved create personality to create something out of very little. We have I've never lived anywhere but Ontario. I'm steeped in the wind. The Sky the color and the legend of Tom Thomson and I still feel a restlessness deep in my bones. I'm reminded of a moment from my conversation with Cheryl Grace Grace the moment where I ask the unanswerable question. I can't help but repeat to everyone I seek out. There seems to be a discomfort or dissatisfaction in simply not knowing certain things about Tommy Thompson and I wonder why can't we just live with human beings but is there a cost to not being able to just say okay. It's a mystery that we can still get people coming out to see the plaque on the CAIRN and visit the McMichael have the mystery draw them in but we can't can't seem to make peace with with not knowing you know now more than ever more than we did. Maybe fifty years ago even well. I I wasn't kidding when I sort of blurted it out. It's human nature look what we did have done continue to do with Franklin. It's the same human desire for answers and the same I would say fundamental human fear of the unknown. North Fried nailed it on the head when he called called garrison mentality our our needs set of hold ourselves safe both psychologically and physically in in a walled in environment and what we're wiling out is all those forces of nature that we can't control and that's that has that has mythic thick and missile legitimising power and ironically. I don't sense any of that in Thomson's this painting I mean even northern something Northern River which does convey a certain forboding when you actually experienced the the work what you receive seve is not something in my estimation that comes from a person who's fearful in that situation this beautiful irony in it and certainly if I go so do the McMichael which I do every every chance I get I. It's not fair that I feel. It's it's it's a sense of beauty of harmony of of a certain sense of exhilaration. Everybody's going to have a different responses sponsored so subjective so personal but yeah it's ironic that he thompson the man mythologised over and over again in this way when his actual paintings seemed to be telling a different story but then they can't. We can't know what there's that story is because he never talked about it he and then he's gone so we don't know what he thought he was doing in those paintings thanks but for me. I think he I think he was painting. What he saw and things that he loved it. He appreciated enjoyed.

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05:39 min | 1 year ago

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"And that's the book that I got Doc. Gregory clogged thinking about Thompson as an ideal case study in Canadian history. He looked at the secondary accounts of Thompson's life. The biographies piece how others told his story and then compared them with whatever primary sources he could find. He wrote a book of his own. It was decidedly different from Judge Judge William Little's potboiler. My Name is Dr Gregory clubhouse. I am the author of the many deaths of Tom. Thomson separating fact from fiction as well as is the research director for death on painted lake the Tom Thomson tragedy which is a a website of documents information images related Gitam thompsons life and death little really does lay out what seems like a pretty convincing intriguing provocative thesis that Thompson was likely murdered and that was my point of entry as well and I thought well there's all these sorts of strings things not talked about theories about out a drunken fight that led to Thompson's death that perhaps he had been married or an impregnated a woman you know that he got in a fight about the war. There were just so many factors to keep in mind that I thought this is better than any contemporary crime. TV show this would be really exciting for people to get their teeth into and to think about how to study history. There's something that seems kind of at least ethically suspect talked about going in kind of exhuming a body seemingly on a whim some October night with your buddies how does that how did you come to terms with that ethical aspect of Thompson's death and the aftermath to to speak about William Liberals and his friends ethical decisions. I mean that's a fascinating fascinating case. They have a long history in the park. They'd been campers there as boys they leased cottages on Canoe Lake and I'll Gahan Park and so they took it upon themselves to explore to say well. Let's just go and see if we can discover something and of course they didn't know exactly where the body had been buried initially so they sunk three the holes trying to find something and on the third hole they discovered remains. I think that question of ethics is a really important one and it's troublesome one in this case what I talk about in the many deaths of Tom Thomson. There's a recording by one of the other men involved in the case. Frank Frank Brown and it was made before the OH P P analyze the remains and publicly stated what their findings were about the remains and at that time browde is saying well. We figured that it was okay to do this without asking for approval from the park. They didn't seek out anybody's approval at they just went over and start digging because if there was no body there we weren't doing anything wrong or illegal and if there was a body there I think the assumption was well. We'll be forgiven for this transgression Russian because clearly we've changed history if you will or discovered some sort of public lie but even they had their doubts about what they were doing the start of the legitimacy or the ethics about what they were doing and in the end the said it's not it doesn't look like it's Thomson that's within about a month of analyzing the remains Dr Noble Sharp who is the head of the Attorney General's laboratory which is uh-huh today the equivalent the center Forensic Sciences noble sharp came up to a park with an officer they exhumed the remains sharp brought them back to Toronto and had them analyzed. They were an x ray technician. Analyze them an anthropologist sharp himself and based on all of these is people's findings. They announced that they were not. Tom Thompsons remains in fact they weren't even the remains of a European heritage male. Yes I think the identified the remains as possibly indigenous origin right but that's not the end of that that confusion even about where Thompson has buried seems to you have been perpetuated to some degree which you say that's correct. Absolutely I think one of the things that I suggest many deaths of Tom. Thomson is the ball buckled the conspiracy theories the murder theory the suicide theory those have come to actually displace what was believed in announced in nineteen seventeen and and held sway for decades after that the idea that Thompson was murdered or committed suicide has come to be. I won't say the Party line but but the dominant manent understanding the one that most people know about the case have read those are the arguments that are most frequently made that somehow you know anthropologists apologists an x ray technician and doctors and the people who examined the corpse all got it wrong in twenty when he eighteen judge William Little Son. John Little published his own book who killed Tom. Thomson the truth about the murder of one of the twentieth the at century's most famous artists. It's based on a decade of research in the book John Little reminisces about his father's obsession and doggedly pursues the case himself he enlists to retired police detectives to look at the evidence in the murder plot deepens.

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02:33 min | 1 year ago

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"Thompsons since death has inspired myriad responses a canonizing impulse a genuine desire for the truth sensationalist theorising and even gory bit of grave taking that gory bid came in the nineteen fifties courtesy of William little a reform school superintendent who later became a judge and three of his friends they decided to exhume Thomson's body or what they thought was Thompson's body one October weekend there had been persistent rumors that the body had never been moved from its initial resting place in nineteen seventeen the little cemetery in the woods near Canoe Lake in Oregon can park the Thompson family wanted him buried at the Churchyard Lee Ontario Niro and sound the undertaker. They sent to retrieve Tom's body worked alone at night and somehow appeared with a sealed casket on the train station platform the next morning. What have you got a body Body Thompson. You've got Tom's body by one authority. I've instructions from the family the brother I suppose they want to have the proper proper burial or don't you consult the thirties about something like that. I have all the instructions I need and I know my business. Well as you do probably better. We'll not about that. You just wait right here. I'm not waiting for anything judge. Little's investigations became part of a CBC TV special in the late sixties. He's called was Tom Thomson murdered. I think the Thomson met some person struck by a pedal or some corruption left Amman conscious and left to ever willing that paddle in the awkward position of having a body that may or may not have been dead and therefore what to do and then he published a book the Tom Thomson mystery it was a bestseller and a first taste the Thompson mystique for many at times. William Little's version comes across like a twisted Hardie boys tail explain Elaine what had been exposed at the bottom of the pit gabby jumped down head first to explore the opening. He thrust his hand into the aperture. pull it a bone which appeared to be a football of human body. At last we found the grave and body of Tom. Thomson showed it Frank. We've really hit it. Exclaimed Gabeira joined this. Is it fellows ellos. I was speechless.

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04:51 min | 2 years ago

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"In two thousand seventeen the McMichael Canadian collection brought wheland and Thomson face to face on gallery, walls, and in a beautiful and provocative book. The myths entails we value. Most the ones we put I end up being the ones that purport to tell the story to the rest of the world to every Neil fight who comes under the spell of Tom Thomson while it may require more effort. It's good to keep the true breadth and depth of the Tom Thomson mythos in mind and to examine it with discerning heart. It's a mythos that drives auction prices into the stratosphere, which really means the paintings are priceless. And it's a mythos that reaches clear across oceans. My name's into Jordan, for instance, cultish manner. I'm these director, Michael Canadian collection British. Yes, indeed. Yeah. That's great Bill. That's great. I if you wouldn't mind just describing to me hell, you came to to Tom Thompson's work on time to longtime ago actually back in the nineteen eighty s I was working in there on the kademi in those days in London, and I was based in the library. And I came across a book as simple as that. I was intrigued because it was Thompson's wet particularly Couva seven two was so immediate and on. Although it was using techniques that were recognizably say postimpressionist, no bright colors dabs of paint. Very the it. Nonetheless, didn't like any landscape. And so this. Was the sumptious. This was kinda this was somehow different could not be Britain could not be Russia. Could not be no away. This is Canada. Look like that's an intriguing idea to follow through. I've I've seen Lorne Arison Tontons painting. I went to being in Tom Thomson painted. You know, what you come out of his thinking? Well, it doesn't like Thomson painting. He translated it into his own language, and yet I can see as I say, I've told many many Canadians who say, you know, you must you must look at those landscapes acidic exactly like that. The don't we've learned to look at them in that way. We we project onto the landscapes. That's that's evidence of success. My goodness. If you are not just to actually change the way, you look things. Very few dumb. Ian desired in particular gift. For expressing just why we've struggled to make peace with Thompson's death. Maybe it's his transatlantic point of view, which affords him wide angle. Look at the story. The reality of it all seems to have struck him after screening tomtoms film at his previous post the Dulwich picture gallery in London a few years ago. I had to get up in the the producers on I'm afraid I loved very embarrassing. It was not attracted canoe floating side. Dial the Las image in the film. I'm sorry. Just even now, I come. I haven't got to go to this whole NATO think Canada has really I think that's why people why there is such an industry of kind of looking at trying to find reasons for it. There's a reason for it doesn't matter. I mean. Onto the eight and didn't come back, and then nothing can bring him back. But even now, I think kinda still struggling to come to terms with that because not only because he was so brilliant. But also is something about his image which feeds into that. So well, I mean that man look good in two. I'm just saying, you know, I've never seen a photo of Tom Thomas didn't like being posed by the guy Cooper. He just seems to have his life. Seems to have been photographed in all filming way. They looked like stills from film, you know, he was just very food to genyk. He's very silent. You don't have his voice ever. He wasn't recorded. You have silent. Beautiful brilliant genius. And you can never get closer to him than that the more. I allow this this unknowing sort of void to be. The more. I seem to be getting from the the paintings. Is there something unique about a painting that can do that to a person? Well, if he gets out of the, you know, poppy is a response to a brilliant technician at work, which is immediate..

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03:13 min | 2 years ago

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"It's a beautiful scene. But it's a fugitive love at that very moment. Ross and his Rosedale crony Clooney are scouring the shoreline in their canoe. The contrast between these men and Tom is stark. Well, you don't know this country. Trust me, once I get the lay of the land. Lay the land. You bloody fool. It that's overnight. The hair somewheres gotta be we'll find oh, God sakes, shut up. You bloody bloody fool Ross. Never say that again. They are misogynist. I mean, they they don't like a woman as an individual simply wander as trophy, and they wanted to shut up and do what they say. And just sit there and be quiet. So that's a very deep seated not only hatred of women. But of course, also then hatred of of that symbolic woman nature because they're going to mine it for what they can get their almost caricature sus, two men of Toronto businessman or Rosedale businessman uneducated crass materialistic etcetera etcetera. Whereas Tom is if you like a true man as far as Wieland is concerned. And interestingly enough. Your masculine misogynous. Rosedale creeps need this die. They need his help in order to find the mother load of silver that thereafter. So, you know, wheel ind manages who paid a pretty negative sure of them while at the same time having to kill off her heroes. By because the story in the story Thompson to ice. Right. And then in the story, he could well have been murdered she chooses murder. The troubling aspect is that Eulalie seems to die as well. We don't really know what happens to her. We just see our hat floating on the surface of the water in something under the water. So you know, you can speculate in this Leone on what those images at the end of the film might signify. But the point is we owned had to have him die. Right. I just thought it would be nice if they had canoed the other way. I know. Well, I know kept going. Yes, I know off into the sunset that would have been a an American ending. We have to have a Canadian ending in the Canadian ending of the natural nature wins as that would told us, right? She wins. This is this is true etiquette summation was able to occur exactly. Oh. Two..

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02:04 min | 2 years ago

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"Tom thomson. I love you. Therefore, I apologize for what I must say. But I must say damn your Jack pines, they're beautiful. I love your bent trees, and I love your ice and spring candle into its green rot. And I love the way you round all alone with your canoe and are not even knowing the time of day. And the grave mystery of your genius interrupted his our story. It's. Away of his thing. I think gee, I wish I could do that in words you've Donut. Damn you it it. It's something I have to aim for. And then on the other hand, look would it cost. You Charlie you had to dive down into the hell that artists dive into and you didn't make it back up in many ways, I think Bob dealt with that in everything he wrote. That diving down into dangerous waters and struggling to make it to the surface. So that you could tell the story, right? The column. About your pine trees this evening. One of the moved across my wall daring, the light daring, the bright and lover's leap across the impassable gap, the uncertain principle of time and space straight down he dove, and he would seize unearthly shades. And he would seize the drowned land the picture from the pool the pool's picture and the gods. Cried, Tom, Tom, you asshole, let go and you had found their secret and would not ever let go they cry..

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03:33 min | 2 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"And of course, they didn't know exactly where. Body had been buried initially. So they sunk three holes trying to find something and on the third hole. They discovered remains. I think that question of ethics is a really important one. And it's troublesome one in this case what I talk about in the many deaths of Tom Thomson. There's a recording by one of the other men involved in the case Frank Brown. And it was made before the O P P, analyzed the remains and publicly stated. What their findings were about the remains? And at that time Browde is saying, well, we figured that. It was okay to do this without asking for approval from the park. They didn't seek out anybody's approval at all. They just went over and start digging. Because if there was no body there, we weren't doing anything wrong or legal. And if there was a body there. I think the assumption was what will be forgiven for this transgression because clearly we've? Changed history. If you will are discovered some sort of public lie. But even they had their doubts about what they were doing the sort of the legitimacy or the ethics about what they were doing. And in the end, the said admits not doesn't look like, it's Thomson. That's right. Within about a month of analyzing. The remains Dr noble sharp who is the head of the attorney general's laboratory, which is would be today the equivalent the center for forensic sciences. Noble sharp came up to park with no p officer. They exumed the remains sharp. Brought them back to Toronto and had them analyzed their next Ray technician, analyze them, an anthropologist, sharp himself and based on all of these people's findings. They announced that they were not Tom Thompsons remains in effect. They weren't even the remains of a European heritage male. Yes, I think they identified the remains as possibly indigenous, right? But that's not the end of that that confusion even about where Thompson is buried seems to have been perpetuated to some degree, which you say, that's correct. Absolutely. I think one of the things that I suggest in the many deaths of Tom Thompson is the called them the conspiracy theories the murder theory, the suicide theory those have come to actually displace what was believed and announced in nineteen seventeen and held sway for decades. After that, the idea that Thompson was murdered or committed suicide has come to be I will say the party line, but but the dominant understanding the one that most people know about the case have read those are the the arguments that are most frequently made that somehow anthropologists an x Ray technicians and doctors and the people who examined the corpse all got it wrong. In two thousand eighteen judge William little son. John little published his own book who killed Tom Thomson. The truth about the murder of one of the twentieth. Century's most famous artists it's based on a decade of research in the book John little reminisces about his father's obsession and doggedly perceives the case himself, he enlists to retired police. Detectives to look at the evidence in the murder plot deepens..

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"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

Ideas

04:44 min | 2 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"Thomson's death has inspired myriad responses. A canonizing impulse a genuine desire for the truth sensationalist theorizing and even gory bit of grave digging. That gory bid came in the nineteen fifties. Courtesy of William little a reform school superintendent who later became a judge and three of his friends they decided to Exume Thomson's body or what they thought was Thompson's body one October weekend. There had been persistent rumors that the body had never been moved from its initial resting place in nineteen seventeen the little cemetery in the woods near canoe lake in all park. The Thompson family wanted him buried at the church yard Lee on -tario Niro and sound the undertaker they sent to retrieve Tom's body worked alone at night and somehow appeared with a sealed casket on the train station platform the next morning. What have you got a body body Thompson, you've got Tom's body by one thority I've instructions from the family, the brother, I suppose, they want to have the proper. Royal don't queue consult, the thirty about something. Like that all the instructions I need, and I know my business. Well, as you probably better we'll see about that way right here. I'm not waiting for anything. Judge Little's investigations became part of a CBC TV special in the late sixties called was Tom Thomson murdered. I think the Thompson met some person struck by pedal or some object. Deft Amman conscious left to ever will that paddle in the position of having a body that may or may not have been dead, and therefore what to do. And then he published a book the Tom Thomson mystery. It was a bestseller and a first taste of the Thomson mystique for many at times. William Little's version comes across like a twisted Hardie Boys tale. I explained what had been exposed at the bottom of the pit Gigi jumped down head first to explore the opening. He thrust his hand into the aperture and pull it a bone which appeared to be a football of human body at last we found the grave and body of Tom Thomson showed Frank we've really hit it exclaimed, Jack Gebbie joined this is it fellows. I was speechless. And that's the book that I got Gregory clogging thinking about Tom Thomson as an ideal case study in Canadian history. He looked at the secondary accounts of Thomson's life, the biographies how others told his story and then compared them with whatever primary sources he could find he wrote a book of his own. It was decidedly different from judge William Little's potboiler. My name is Dr Gregory cluggy. I am the author of the many deaths of Tom Thomson, separating fact from fiction as well as the research director for death on a painted lake. The Tom Thomson tragedy, which is a website of documents information images related to Thompson's life and death little really does lay out. What seems like a pretty convincing intriguing provocative thesis that Thompson was likely murdered. And that was my point of entry as well. And I thought well, there's all these sorts of strings. Things not talked about theories about a drunken fight that led the Thompson's death that perhaps he had been married or an impregnated a woman. That he got a fight about the war. There were just so many factors to keep in mind that I thought this is better than any contemporary crime TV show. This would be really exciting for people to get their teeth into and to think about how to study history. There's something that seems kind of at least ethically suspect about going in kind of Exuma body seemingly on a whim some Tober night with your buddies. How does that how did you come to terms with that ethical aspect of Thomson's, death and the aftermath to speak about William Little's and his friends ethical decisions? I mean, that's a fascinating case they have a long history in the park. They'd been campers there as boys they leased cottages on canoe lake park. And so they took it upon themselves to explore say, well, let's just go and see if we can discover something..

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"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

Ideas

04:53 min | 2 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Ideas

"He people around here who knew the Thompson family knew that they had an artist in the family, but they didn't know what his stuff looked like and nineteen seventeen men were dying all time and being buried all the time. So it was like locally just another burial the crowd didn't turn out. It was not a big deal. And we thought we wanted to have one to make up for that hundred years later, not too late still. And so we had we had a hundred and fifty people here think everybody from around here loves to say, oh, yeah. Tom Thompson came from from here. They like him for his art. Because he's because he was local. The mystery of his burial is minor compared to the mystery of his death, and those mysteries will go on and on I feel a bit like some of the mystery making if it's a it's a way for people to try to make sense of something that good point, maybe hard to sure come to terms. We can't we can never explain things fully. So having things like that to latch onto makes it maybe more more comfortable for people. Good point. But at the same time, there's a helpful version of that in an unhelpful verse. And I've well the arguing is is not helpful except that it does draw people to pay attention. If they'll listen or if they'll read or fill think about it. But just you know, being belligerent about it and saying, yes, he's buried here or no, he's not very here or yes, he drowned or somebody murdered him or committed suicide or whatever the prevailing, but was or even the kind of person he was or was thought to sure sure because he like he's still he's a man of mystery, but he was a human being. And I think I find some of them some of the speculation around how he behaved sometimes doesn't keep that in mind, true true. See I'm spinning my own tail again that reflects it betrays my bias to undo stories about Thompson to loosen the bootlaces of legend and let the blood circulate. Interesting stuff on here. These this is a product of people who come from wherever to see the grave, and they leave something I've talked to a number of people over the years who have come directly from canoe lake to here. Now look out the the grave marker in canoe lake. They'll get in the car, and they'll drive here. And they will often bring something like some of these stones might be from Elgon park. I don't know. The for longtime. We've got a lot of coins placed on great. I don't know why. But that's what people have in their pockets. I guess when they came here in the paint brushes are a great idea the fishing lures kind of nice touch some of the other stuff totally unexplainable. I don't know a little more than a century after his death. Tom Thomson has become a chi- Mira a creature of the imagination a beauty we yearn for. But he was just a man it appears he spent most of his thirty nine years on earth searching for purpose. Courting a passion. And in consummating that passion finding freedom. That's a mission. We recognize it's grist for the mills of TV psychologists self help authors and TED talks, it's natural. And it's exciting to think that in the last few years of his life. Tom Thomson might have hit upon a dream. I see evidence of that in. In the paint. He dogged swirled and smooshed on the little wooden panels. He brought with him in his canoe to the places that captured his imagination and spoke some mysterious word to him, and it will always baffled me to think Tom died. Right. When it seemed he'd finally discovered his own way of life. It is interesting. The compulsion. People have to. To commemorate. Yeah. It will be associated with the great, man. I guess say, yes. But who is also I guess seem to have a sensitivity, and you know, varying levels of confidence in his abilities. And all those things that maybe we would identify with as well. Yeah. For sure. Sure..

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"tom thomson" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:29 min | 3 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on KGO 810

"Travis allen is something he is he has something to meet in person he's dynamic man i mean and it seems one thousand percent genuine crazy for a politician i mean it just studies that's who he is he's really ten geis's bro along that picture is super energetic oh man you probably fist bumps more than any other politician but you would disqualify sean to first names that's not the two first names i'm okay with that it's when the last name is derivative first name tom thomson will you can't trust has a shot of thomas can't be upset at first name enough bipartisan ism partial phillips oh boy i tell you the teaser controversies not going away the white house is saying there is nothing wrong with president trump's early tees up the monthly jobs report press secretary sarah sanders says it was okay because the president didn't say what the numbers were up listen to you trump is being criticized for teasing tweet about an hour before the may jobs numbers were officially released this morning saying he was looking forward to seeing the report some analysts say the trump's tweet impacted the market before trading began today it's not a big deal but i think this is interesting he is a guy that his lived in the world where you get that information before it's published his whole life like everybody in government and big time money people do they know that stuff before it hits the news and do get to adjust their investments accordingly maybe this is the way to level the playing now everybody has it not just the super connected that's just the way the world works they know what laws are going to be approved they know what they economic numbers are going to be they get to know that i had it done and i hear you say marsh but what was in the actual report well report for may is out is better than expected the economy adding two hundred and twenty three thousand jobs last month the unemployment rate tip down a notch to three point eight percent that's the lowest it's been in eighteen years as far as wages go they.

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"tom thomson" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

The Paul Finebaum Show

02:11 min | 3 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

"In how the program is being run you couple that with the different philosophy changes both offensively and defensively it's a completely different pro so all the guys that were that were recruited to run spreader now running prostyle and all the guys that were created to run four to five or now running three four on defense and it's a completely different shifts so it's going to take some time and i really hope that tennessee fans just our patient with the process and knowing that it might take a couple years but in the long run their shortcomings in the short term are going to be better for them laying the foundation greg mcelroy our guests here on the paul finebaum show all right let's put you to the test you're one of the smartest people i know and it really pains me to admit that nights yes which one of these you're a gentleman yes scholar which one of these three quarterbacks takes more snaps meaningful snaps in twenty eighteen jalen hurts at alabama tom thomson over at mississippi state or justin feels at georgia oh my good that the tough question meaningful snaps meaningful snaps is it going to be jalen hurts in alabama let me stall and in repeat the questions you have time okay i'm gonna go justin field it's georgia and it's because i think justin field albeit maybe not as the starting quarterback i just think it's going to be very difficult to unseat jake from but i'd be shocked absolutely shocked if justin feels given his skillset wasn't used in that offense as a short yardage back or as a guy that's in there for the quarterback run game if they have both quarterbacks on the field the same time which we've seen multiple places over the last few years most notably penn state or the backup quarterback tommy stephen is used sometimes it's like a tight end as like a situational player they call it the quote lion position no i think justin feels could be used in a real similar way at alabama would be obviously the second most likely jalen hurt granted i think to tongue by low is the real deal believed in that second he walked on campus i think.

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"tom thomson" Discussed on Highly Questionable

Highly Questionable

01:39 min | 3 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on Highly Questionable

"Saturday on nbc game to avalanche in predators bobby the predators from where are they wear the predators fum sir from still not view oh he was going to get it wrong you ruined the joke filip forsberg did what was it has spun oh oh you gotta look at this again that's playoff hockey how confident are you when you do all oh that is we'd also i'm so very sorry garard you look like a fool dumb you intrigue all cc very intrigued playoff hockey stakes matter and he finished a play you see so often across over that you don't complete or maybe a fancy move with the stick that you don't finish but he hit the shot at the end that's what matters that is all that matter only thing that matt all agree on that he didn't say anything controversial they're popular you and tree see see these gotta learn how to keep their legs close but i mean in the moment like these you know when it's coming to you gotta make sure that that open and he's not there anymore you know you keep your legs up and that's what happened to you you know you can leave again because you're fooling and they're going to start bullying you eventually i'm going to lose the play of the out of the play home expos got shooting you know great good advice nbc sports california as in mariners puppy who is klay thompson you know clay tom thomson.

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"tom thomson" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

As It Happens from CBC Radio

01:44 min | 3 years ago

"tom thomson" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

"Maguire what i am sent in about is that he has made it very clear that he wants to come back to kenya and that is the cost i believe he will continue to pursue and so we will be exploring on legal options that available to see to it that he comes back to kenya it's adamant he wants he will come to kenyan he's adamant to come back we spoke with mr magoo his wife jane here in canada who very upset very emotional we spoke with her she said that he felt there was no need for him to return to kenya that others could carry the ball and that his put himself in grave danger given how angry the government is within the president is with him what do you say to her once a person has conviction about something it's very hard to shake it and medina is amount of conviction is a person of principle once he has decided on a puzzle action he's very hot to convince others he becomes intractable and that is an admirable quantity it is through people like him that we have had changes in the woods it is through the conviction of people like nelson mandela who were willing to be jailed to suffer personal north at great personal expense that change apartheid was brought down in south africa and so mcguire glenis conviction is what is now might just be the thing that we need to change in this country mistletoe i appreciate speaking with you we will be following this story closely thank you.

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