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I can't wait to hear your podcast. Hello, gamers and welcome to budget. Arcade. A free to play gaming podcast to help. You navigate through the growing realm of free to play games. I'm scott. I'm Cody, and I'm TJ DJ's the new and welcome to our. Yeah. TJ is filling in for Jim trust a good job Jeff pass away. And this is our. Does getting permanent. I thought it was a heart attack for the screaming. He does I was about say wouldn't a heroin overdose. Be an upgrade for him. Actually. I mean, that's, you know, it's okay, heart attack hair when those same. I don't think a heroin overdose. Fiji though. Drugs kids. Yes. That brings us to our next point. Don't do crack. We're off to a great start. Everybody got that reference. Thank you. I appreciate that. Anyway. All right now, we are in our episode now, and what game are we going to be introducing this day, Cody today, we're going to be reviewing to Galea lost. It is a action RPG on Android and Iowa's so mobile, and it was released on September twenty seven twenty eighteen it's a single player game. But it does have some aspects of multiplayer. Which is kind of interesting, but it was released by Nintendo, and it's done really well for it self for mobile game. You know, it's it's only been out like I'll just say since October just to make it easy. Was that to Bob months? It's it's gotten over fifty million dollars. Just in this Justice. It's been released that was just twenty eight teen yet, I was just in two thousand eighteen fifty million so three full months of gaping released. So I mean, it's it's doing well for itself on the crazy thing is that that was just coming out in North America, Japan and a few of those regions, then actually only recently came out in the United Kingdom in like late January. That was part of the reason I suggest that this game was because it's kind of popped up in the news few times again recently with the game, you know, just somewhat recently coming out in the UK and also because the developer side games actually been pretty critical of Nintendo. Oh recently. Can look at the exact quotes they gave out on your favorite news site. But they basically said that they could have made a lot more money of Nintendo didn't use this more like a an advertisement tool than actual money revenue device. So yeah, it's it's been popping up in the news a little bit. Yeah. See here that you're right. It released on January twenty sixth in the UK Ireland, Australia, Canada, Singapore in New Zealand weird bunch of places that released later on whatever. All right. So I guess go ahead and jump to the game play of it. Now the game play this Ferdie straightforward for a mobile game. You basically you drag your finger across to make your character walk around you tap the screen to make your fighters attack. And if you need a job to a quick dodge, just do a quick swipe left. So you can avoid those roles. Yeah. And then there's also we we didn't get super far into the game. Because apparently it is fairly lengthy. But there is a button down to the bottom where if you tap that you'll do a special ability. I think the guy that I used just had like a giant like circular slash interested a ton of damage. Yeah. It seems like the special abilities or like what really, you know, dictate a characters kind of rarity because this is a Gotcha game. So, of course, your characters have stars. And I got to us because you can like assist by grabbing some someone else's character for mission. And I got to use some of the more powerful characters and their little special moves are pretty pretty impressive. So those abilities they believe they changed with each character. And you can also update those the abilities for each character different the way, they attack is also different. I've got one character that had like a Lance almost. And it was it was like a straight line attack. But I use my best. Character was I got free of some Samra, and he had like this wad slashing pattern in front of decimated. Everything. But the the real big thing on this one is after you collect some crystals by defeating enemies, and there's also like some crates and stuff laying around that you can attack to get them. Once you clicked enough crystals. You can actually transform into a dragon. Spoiler alert little bit labor for the game. And that's one of the key points. You know, you can just do a ton of damage when you're in that form. But really that's about it. I mean, it's it's pretty simplistic. What is it a team of four you go in there with or is it seem three I can't remember team of four and you can actually switch characters by clicking on the portrait's of each character in your team. Yeah. I'm pretty sure for like the endgame stuff for the really hard stuff. Switching characters in maximizing. Their abilities is probably a big Kita staying on top of the you know, getting through the hardest stuff in the game and staying on top of it. And you know, you can actually earn a lot of a lot of new K. Characters by using. I can't even remember the name of thing at this point. But it's like where my own my. And that's it. And essentially you throw these into a you you can earn them or you can buy them. I believe and you basically go into a shop you have a random role to summon a character, and it can be anywhere from one to five stars. Obviously the five stars are much stronger and much better abilities. But the chances to get those as I was reading up a little bit on it is like super super slim. It's like point zero point zero zero one something, but there's also like it seemed like there was hundreds of things that you can unlock every time. You summon something? Yeah. And that's actually one of my biggest complaints about like this game. Actually is that you know with other mobile gosh games. You know, where the system is. You can get random stuff usually one. They have multiple banners. And at the time we. He played this game. The only banner that was out was the cursor archive. And would really kind of put me off is the fact that whenever you make these polls, you wouldn't just get a character. But you could get a dragon, and you could get something else called a direct lift which is something that can picture that just upgrade your character gives them special skills of which kind of turned me off a little bit as far as wanting to make polls because it's like not only do I have a slim chance to get who I want. But on top of that. I'm not even guaranteed characters in some sense. I could get you know, dragons, which you confuse if you get the same type over and over again to make them stronger or drac lists with which they worked the exact same way. So you know, that when when your main premise is Gotcha. And they start muddling kind of the field like that. It didn't do a lot for me personally. And you can actually those cars you're talking about. And the dragons they all can be clipped to each character. Or to increase their abilities. You can also pole weapons from fighting on the levels and those weapons can be equipped to your characters as well to increase their stats and everything like that. Yeah. And I'll I'll touch a little bit of what TJ said, you know, if there was several like, okay? So let's say say right now, there's just one thing, and you go in there, and you have a chance to get all the stuff. We just mentioned I would have liked to have seen. You know, if they're going to do Gajah Gitai game. You know have store for the cars. That dragon lists have the store for the dragons have or have. I wouldn't be reminded the dragons if they would have been in with the characters, but the dragon list, that's what you're more than likely going to pull out of liked to have seen a couple of different types of shops. Just to make easier to pull something that you think was Cole or give you better chance of getting an actual new character. Instead. Right. Well, and then on top of it, again, you know, other mobile games have multiple banners. And the fact that you had one banner that you apparently had a higher chance to get a few things on that banner, but one banner and then everything in. The game thrown into that one banner means that I can see why side games is like, oh, yeah. We could've made a lot more money because. Yeah. That's that's a deep pool to be pulling from speaking of them making money. Let's let's go over what that you get whenever you pay for stuff in this game. You can buy the war mites. And you can roll the dice and hope for the hope for one of like seventy million items. Also by some sort of diamond looking thing, and those also will count as a currency within the game that you can purchase your polls for your characters as well. Yes, is this is definitely a paid a win. Ms definitely paid a win. That's find somebody most mobile games are the Gotcha system is is what makes these games thrive. And what makes them such a such, you know, money generating machine. But I'll tell you what this this formula in this game. I had no desire to even spend one red cent in this game. And so when you purchase stuff in this game a lot of times you can use it either. Like, we were saying with full you can, you know, use it to purchase more characters or items or whatever you get with each poll, but as your playing the game, you have stamina as you do a level, your stamina goes down dependent on how much stamina that level. Takes once you get zero. You have to either a refill the stamina with an item or you have to use your currency to refill that stamina. And you know, if you're low on currency, you're gonna have to buy it to be able to continue with this. There's multiple modes of gameplay in this not only is there the single player campaign. There's also events and there's also like a multiplayer function as well. But it's more of long lines of you play with characters of other people who have played the game to help boost your ability to do whatever the quest is. And that section of the game. Yeah. So it's not it's not like a a lot of Saad. Saad multiplayer thing. It's your characters in the game. Once you make them you level up a little bit, you know, you step away. And then somebody, you know, when you start a mission, you have the option to to like at a friend or something like that. And it just. Pulls. They're the main character that they use and throw them in your game. And and I didn't mention that either. The all the other people in your party, even if you have four people, you only control one, you cannot control what anybody else does is just impis running around and tacking things. Well, one out of time. So you can switch within your party care. But you know, as you're playing the one character, you're the computers playing the other characters. And honestly that they're not that good. They don't get out of the way whenever enemies are attacking them. It's a little ridiculous, especially when you get the balls. I have some really large attacks. They're sitting there beating the crap out of its feet, and it just starts stomping on them. All right. Affect attack and Mike knock hall. Away, and what really stinks about that. It was there's there's as you're beating each level. You get these little symbols almost like chievements that you get for each level. And I believe one of them's like, you know, you don't lose anybody in your party, and you don't continue in one other one. But you know, if any of your party dies, you don't get that completion of that like complete one hundred percent of that level, and you have to go back and replay it to get one hundred percent. I had actually lost one character in the first chapter of one of the levels. So when I was playing the second chapter was like looking at the Mike completion of each low of each chapter and my chapter one wasn't at one hundred percent because of that one level where I had a character died. Well, and actually that kind of leads me into a few points because there's some there's some key things we really need to talk about what this game. So first off being a mobile. Will game, you know, you should be able to play this anywhere. So actually kind of want to check with you. I got where did you play? Yeah. Where did you play the majority of your time with this game because you know, being a mobile game. You should be able to play it in the bed right for you. Go to sleep maybe on a break at work. You know, if you're the restroom you're there for a minute where did you get the majority of your playtime from this game? Mostly on my break at work while I was connected to wifi. Okay. All right. What about you, Cody? I gotta know where you played it really the only time I've had a chance to play. It was on Fridays. I actually have like a big break in between my classes, and if I was not busy with working on our project. You know, I would go into the live where it's kinda quiet and sit down and knock out knock out a couple of chapters while I was or a couple of levels while I was waiting for my next classes start. But that's really the only time I had a chance to play because I mean once you sit down, it's it's going to take you minute. And that's really my biggest problem with this game. Like this game. I don't feel like respect your time because I actually had to put away like actual game the play this. And by that what I mean is I couldn't really just played at work because one, you know, you need wifi connection, which where I work at. We don't have one and two. If you're doing the story, some of these cut scenes are along and this story, this is where anime happens. I mean, this is definitely friendship and stereotypes and and long winded. You know, just cut scenes, and I think my biggest problem with the cut scenes actually is not only are they long winded and just very stereotypical the ones, by the way, if they actually talk you can't right? It's so bad. And that's the thing. It's not all of them. Right. And this is one of you know, like one of my biggest problem. First off spoiler alert stories. Not that good. You'll predict things coming from a mile away. Don't even it's even more anime than anime. And I don't know if that makes sense. But to me it does because you know. All right. Spoiler alert, for example, right at the beginning. All right. Your sister. The main character is a guy named udon which you can change his name. But you know, I think that's the default names that the default name y'all got for that is I don't ever change the names on those usually. Yes. So I I wasn't going to change the name because I didn't know if I was going to stick with this game, and you can change it later pantley, but right off the bat Zada and not which is your sister in nonsol- fairy that you know, comes to help they show up right and help you out which the heels you so you can get through the first part of the game. Even if you're not very good. And then shortly after a girl who looks suspiciously legs out, the your sister. But only wearing purple and has a math shows up and within the first thirty minutes, you find out it's her from like the future something, and it's almost like somebody. He was playing firemen awakening. And we're like, hey, remember that scene where Lucy gets mass chopped off. And it turns out to be hurt. And you know, she's from the it's almost like they took that exact thing and copied it and put it in this game. And it's just this this story, man. I don't know that you will want to you'll play fire. We'll my problem. It's funny that you mentioned fire emblem because I've actually played the mobile firearm bloom the free to play as well in the system not the way like plays. But like, you know, how you have stamina and each time you do a level it takes down, your stamina. And then you have to replenish, your stamina. And all these other things it's it's exactly like that in that fire emblem game. Like, it has no different whatsoever. So this I mean, honestly, they're both done by Nintendo. So there's gonna be a lot of simulate similarities because of that. But I mean, it was like it was so reminiscent of it. I was just like, okay. This is supposed to be like a cop. Of that game. Well in most mobile games do that. So for example, one of the mobile games, I play final fantasy opera Omnia and upper Almeida's, you know, actually did away with stamina system because by then everybody was complaining about them. But, you know, even then it's like you still like if you do certain events there is like a bar says, okay. You can only do this for so long before you have to wait, you know. So I mean mobile games, usually have those stamina bars and Gotcha system because it's been proven to work. You know? I mean, you look at candy crush, for example. It's like, oh, you only have so many moves to beat this puzzle. You know, and that really kind of started that whole, you know, man, you can only play for so long. We want you to get off. But it's funny. Because again, you're gay lost doesn't seem to respect that at all though. Like, they will take your time with those cut scenes for sure. Oh, yeah. That's that's problem with like like you said it's not a game that you can just pay. Let me got five minutes for meeting or you know, I've got hidden. Minutes before I need to go somewhere. Ain't really nothing. Do let's play a game real fast in some people like that. I do kind of a pre sheet what they're trying to do here. They're trying to bring a big single player experience to mobile, but the way they set this up like if I won't to play through a story game. And I really wanna get you know, sold into the story. I don't wanna have to come out between nations and then go back in. I would honestly I would rather just pay the money. I would get like fantasy sever final fantasy non and I'm start playing through it. And I pay the money. There's no there's no waiting. There's no nothing. I just start playing the game and start earning things. And I just keep running through it. You can't do that with this. It's. I think every time I tried to play. I ended up at least spending like fifteen twenty minutes on every single, Tom. Oh, yeah. And that kind of also brings me to another problem. I had with the game. Which is you know, a lot of those cut scenes aren't voiced. And it wouldn't be a big deal to me. But when you're on the menu there are times, you'll just leave your game on and they'll be playing this very, you know, like cutesy Japanese song, which will get on your nerves after a while. And there'll be tons of your characters will just say random things like the one guy that you get the mercenary with the acts. He's just like Benner and you're like, oh my God. Dude. I don't know what forces evil la- worry about food later just call now. And you know. Just take that out. Exactly, why couldn't you take that out invoice the cut scene. So at least I'm somewhat interested instead of going cross eyed wondering when I can actually play the game. I mean. This is one of those games. You know, a good story can enhance a game. This is not that game. And by the way, if a Snickers wants to support us there that was. If we if we spoke about this. I would freak out of like I said if they were if they wanted to do an actual big RPG game on mobile outta rather? Just made it pay just pay for once in an urn everything. After that where you know, there's not all this micro. Transaction be is it is what it is. Yeah. But that's not my biggest problem. My biggest problem was starting up the dang thing. Because. So we're going to go now. So we actually finished up class. Oh Friday early. And it was probably about nine o'clock. I don't have class 'til twelve. I was like sweet this gives me Tom to go ahead and download everything I can sink couple hours into it. I was not able to start actually playing the game to whole light almost ten thirty eleven because one you done the game. All right downloaded the app store on good to go. Might have taken two minutes in then the initial download started, and it is large. And you're not gonna go through just one you're gonna go through about three huge downloads before you even get into the game. So this down you download the game. After you. Download the game you load the game up and immediately down then you run through the prequel for the game. And then you have another download after that, you have a level you have to download that level. Then you have a cut scene. You have to download the cut seeing. And then you have another level you have to download that level and vice versa. Vice versa over and over. Again. There was so many downloads for this game. It's it's going to get to the point where your phone is going to be full would just this came alone. And that is ridiculous in my mind. Absolutely. Into. Yeah. Like, you know, there's the usual stuff pictures, you know, okay, other apps, you know, things like that for me podcasts. I was still allowed podcast. So I had to delete all the podcasts that I had. And I was like re download them later, but I had to delete five dragon quest games because I'm a huge square annex nerd play final fancy opera Omnia record. Keeper downloaded dragon quest one through six and I had to delete five of those dragon quest games. Just download this thing. And when I finally got through with download I checked it. It's three gigs before you eating get any of the in game updates. So as soon as I hoped sweet, I've got a download let me go ahead and start it up. It's like all right to to'real by the way, download another four hundred megabytes. I'm like what? Like now. Into like after you get past like the dose or second. I guess you call them episodes because chapters, and there's things inside the chapters. I don't know what you wanna call. Anyway, I'm gonna call it an episode to make it easy. So once you once you get past the first two episodes, you're still going to have to download your download every time before you jump in. But those downloads when you get farther in our really quick it takes like five seconds to download them. But still it's just the fact that you have to sit there and download something over and over and over and over again. And what I would be is once on a hard mode. I would wonder if you'd have to re download those because it's a changes up, the the difficulty DEA part of the thing that would be easy. If you. But then you had to pay for the cut scene. The end of the game. Gross gross. Don't mean to suggest that you're a sick man, Maury sick, man. Well, I think part of the thing that made this so big was that like there's so many extra little things in here. Like, the Hallam, for example, you know, once you get to certain part in the story, you get to make your own little castle. And I didn't feel like one that was necessary. I'm sure like Dragila loss fans are listen to this. And be like, whoa. Whoa. Hold up a hell of them, actually, one of the most important probably is. But for a newer person when you first get it. You're like, I'm not here to play Ville tiny town or something. Yeah. I'm here to play blow light, you know. But, but you know, it's like the little things like that. Like another big problem. I had with this game. Is that when you first open this game? If you are not offended by the menu. Just how cluttered it is than kudos to you. Because when I was like, what's all this stuff is locked I can't touch. Oh, that's how I felt was Smyth. I can understand by the way on the governor likes might. I'm sorry TJ was the one that he was the one that he really knows it. I'm a novice compared to him. And then jevon Jeff Scott were the newbies. But I will say even uses the this is up there with smites menu. It's raw the is bad. This is all. Much worse than smy. Anyway. I digress. So Scott, what do you want to? You know downloads are killed me. I'm just like what the heck is this crap? Just download after down. I do want to say though, like, you know, TJ mentioned the music and the music throughout the game is actually pretty decent. I'm not normally use it guy when it comes to view games. I've actually just recently started getting more of an appreciation for it. Because some of the other podcasts I've listened to. But the music in this pretty decent. Do you know why? I was just telling me we do. That's what it is your call. I was I was just before we started recording. I just I was telling Cody just before we started recording. I was like, you know, the main song started playing during the Dallas Nells link. Oh, man. This is just goof. This is this is Japanese and as going. Playing more. I was like you know, what I kind of liked the song. And then when I realized I started liking I was like I need to get rid of this game. It was it was just one of those things where it's like, it's a nice little song. You know? It's catchy. And when I found myself, Bob, my head to it when I was playing like a Lord, Anita. Need to get rid of this game. It's a Ono. He's become one of their we abuse. So I got I got to ask though, I gotta ask like we're sitting here kind of ragging on the game little bit though. But if there's one thing to nose known for its quality. It's fun games. It's games. That are just you know, they're they're very almost wholesome. Did you feel the Nintendo magic from this game? Scott, you feel like this is one game where it's like, you know, what when I think of, you know, lesser known intendo games that maybe just didn't get a fair shake, do you think of Rigali lost? It definitely feels like Nintendo. The graphics for one or very crisp, very clean. It was you know, it was a head of friendly feel to it definitely felt like Nintendo of Japan. And I did enjoy that much of it. But it did it did feel like Nintendo. Okay. And I don't know Cody are you in the fan at all of you played any experiences wouldn't send us systems? Honestly, the last last Nintendo system, the my own was a was a super Nintendo, but I do. Oh, absolutely. But you know, I played we played we played switch played all that. And I am a fan of Nintendo. I love the stuff that they do put out. I will say you can definitely tell that. There was a big money that went in behind this game because for a mobile game. The graphics were fantastic the music, really good. I won't say it's the best. I've heard it. It's very fitting. And it's pleasant on the ears. I'd say the controls were good too. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. The controls are fantastic for a mobile game. Because normally when you hear mobile of action country. Yeah. It's like oh God. No, please. Please. No. But like controlled fairly. Well, there was a couple of times where you know. Because of where I put my thumb initially, my character kind of freak out, and I couldn't I could had let up in do like hadn't running at a certain direction again. But other than that like e control vary whale, any rain really Smoot, which was surprising with a lot of enemies onscreen. So what would you guys what would you rate this TJ? And remember it's one out of five stars no half stars. According to Jeff. Released by he can sneak as many half stars. He wants to because Jeffs not here. And you can't fuss about it. But if that's the case, we might as well make it a ten point system. Logical me come on now. Well, I'm gonna give it three stars with a caveat. And I'm gonna have caveat for this. And when one of our other categories, and the caveat is Gotcha games. It's all about what you pull. If you're just one of those unlucky people that just gets a terrible pool. I can understand why you know, this game just won't have the legs for you. That might for somebody else. So I'm gonna give it three stars though. Because at the end of the day, I think it's quality game. I think that the music's good voice acting not terrible. There's some characters that, you know, aren't that? Great. But overall the fact they even bothered to put an English voices. Because a lot of the times with these Japanese inspire mobile games. They don't even bother putting an English voices. So all of that combines to make a quality product. And I did enjoy my time with it. But you know, when it comes to these games it really is all about do you enjoy the game play. And did you get good polls? So I'll say three stars. All right. What about you goaty? You know, what I think I'm gonna give it three stars as well. Just with simple fact that one runs on a runs really wail on a mobile device, again, you're not going to be able to sit down and start banging out levels left. And right. You know, a five minute break you're going to have to invest in Tom into it. But it controls very well. And looks pretty good. The music's good. I enjoyed it. I didn't really enjoy the voice acting, but bashes me, but it was fun. What little I got the plan? It was fun. Do I see myself picking it up and playing it nonstop? No. I do not. Don't see myself sinking tons and tons of hours into this. But I can't see I can see what they were going for. I think they kind of flat on their face with the with the micro transactions and being paid a wing because that's always a negative in my book, even though this isn't multiplayer any type of pay to win as I got a at some points there. But. For mobile game. Really, not bad. All right. I'm gonna go and give it a three star rating as well. The graphics are amazing. It really enjoyed the music. My big drawback again is the download sizes in how often they were that. That's you know, if it wasn't for that. I probably give it four stars. Because it was a really solid game. It was a good play like how how to play it again. Storyline was a little bit. Yeah. Whatever I started skipping stuff in the story because of, but you know, other than that was pretty good. So yeah, I give it three stars left is seal of approval. Oh, you know, what we didn't even go over the replay ability of oh, we didn't. While we are rookies. Yeah. There's re-. I'm the new guy get excuse in this. In this. You should know this by now on the podcast. You're the hosing you forgot it. Them. Not only hosts and forgot it. But I'm looking directly at my nine lineup sheet of what talk about next don't even have that in probably top of my head come on now. Anyway. Cody's going to dragon form right now. Knock out mocking slowly. Here's not growing. It's not turning yellow us screaming. So these fire comes from end. Anyways does. Poop joke. Far joke but semantics so. Honestly, there's not a whole lot of replay ability with this game. It is fairly. I have to disagree with you on that. Really? I mean, this whole week that we've been playing the actually brought out an update within that time that were playing so they're definitely doing updates. They're doing events on a regular basis. So there is a fair amount of replay ability as far as that's concerned. Well, but here's my thing. Is that the reason I say that it doesn't have a ton of replay ability is because I obviously we did not beat the game. But I did look into it. And apparently at least for the campaign you play through the main campaign six chapters. I don't know how many how many levels or any chapter. But once you get through all six chapters. You basically get the restarted again on hard mode, and I think there might be an expert mode. I'm not I never could confirm that or not I looked around. I think might be just like a the events and like some like special dungeons and stuff, but. You know, you play through the main if you're just looking to play through the main campaign it you play through at once you're done. I mean, you can go back through with some different characters and stuff, and you know, obviously, there's a hard mode. But and I don't know how many Vince they put into, but if they don't like just talking just constantly pumping invents it's going to be the same thing over and over again. So I mean there is some replay ability there, but it's not it's not super super high opinion. We'll even seem to be extended story time as well as like side stories as well. Yeah, I'm going to split the uprights on this one and say that they're a mobile game. There's going to be updates. There's there is a ton of replay ability. But this one doesn't seem to be as deep as some other games. I've played. You know, I think the biggest problem is that from what we've heard, you know, as far as like, you know, looking at you know, looking for things that how the community feels about it. What what kind of the end game is right now, it doesn't seem like the updates come fast enough. And when it comes to mobile games like these they constantly need to be updated. They caused because there's people who will literally as soon as the new stuff comes out they burnt through it they're done. And they're basically just sitting there waiting for the next the next big event. So. You know, there's a lot of replay ability. But when you compare it to the competition then to the peers of of this game. Basically, there's probably not as much as you would think. All right, Cody seal of approval. May personally. No, it's like I said, it's I can see what they were going for. They they lost me with all the the the you is God awful. And the story didn't keep me interested enough to like jump in one play more and more and more. By like, a like, a TJ said, I forgot your name. Wow. Thank you, man. My name's union. It is late and I have not. Forgive me. Africa where I was going with this now. Oh, in TJ's words. It's a well. It's very anime. It's very predictable. But it didn't draw me in the game was fun. When I got to play it. And but between the downloads having to wait sitting through cut scenes, I lost interest in it. So me personally, not get muscle. Brutal. All right TJ. What about you? I'm gonna go ahead and give it my seal of approval. But again caveats I'm pretty sure that that the mobile game crowd probably was interested in this game because it wasn't intendo. And it wasn't Super Mario run or fire emblem. He rose or pocket camp. But it's if you're an antenna fan coming to it and trying it out. Maybe you're not very, you know, maybe don't play a lot of mobile games. Then this'll probably be a new experience for the caveats. Are you get into this game? One this game does not respect your time. As far as mobile games, go. There is no quick getting in and out of a lot of game sessions early on and to the file size is humongous for a mobile game. I mean, I've played games that that seem to have more content and they're less than half the size. So but with all that said, I think everything else makes this equality game. At least try out if you have the space again graphics game play music, even the voice, I can tell. Lesser extent. The only thing that I really didn't like, you know, outside of the Gotcha system was was the just. I just want to call that out. I I am. Well, the thing is I do like this game. I liked this game. And I think it does a lot of good. But you know, at the end of the day, it, it doesn't respect your time. And the story the story is just without being too on the nose is. So just anime. And I know that probably sounds bad. But if you try this game, and I don't wanna spoil anything past what spoiled earlier, but if you try this game, and you get up into chapter two you'll see what we mean. It's pretty bad. I just to. I just wanna go ahead. And if we do have some listeners out there there's going to be if any of them watch anime, you are going to catch so much flak. Oh, oh, yeah. May two I think that's why we're able to because we know this. I mean, there is literally align I think it's at the end of chapter one. There's literally line where he was facing a bad guy. And he says something along the lines of all be okay. Because I've got my friends with edge. Exactly what he says. It is it is the power of brench ship. So. That's what you want the seal of approval, there's the seal of approval, this is Anna majors. One of those like all right anyway. Rule. It's not going to get it for me. As nice and Christmas the game play. It's not here for me. I'm sorry. Yeah. I can I can understand why I'm not I'm not gonna challenge that at all in the whole in. If you if if nobody quite if nobody's listened before. This our seal of approval is our personal how we felt about it. The the star system is like overall for the game. You can pick it other way drop is it the other way around. Yes. The rule is more based on you know, whether we believe it's going to enrich your life. As far as free to play game is concerned this one. Like, I love learning, and I've been on this is my fifth episode and this. It's a learning experience for everybody. Okay. It is. It is. Yeah. I just I don't see like there's just takes too much time for me. So it's. We had a couple of people who wrote in their commentary, but unfortunately, I can't get into my discord right now. So I'm not going to be able to do that at all for me. Okay. Go ahead next week. So next week game. We're going to be covering brawl Khawla. Oh, yes. They're going to have an update they just announced that hell boys going to be in. Yeah. Yeah. They just had announcements today because another game that is kind of a smash brothers inspired game called brawl out. Just added the character from dead cells and like shortly after that brawl halls like, oh, yeah, we got help boy common. It's like. Nice. Did not know that thanks for the update on that. Yeah. This is a I don't see TJ new. Yeah. I've never played the game. So I have nothing about it. All I know is that it's a beat him up or like a fighter game kinda like smash grows. So yeah, I really don't. I don't see anything in here. So I see you. It's under the commentary. Or game of the week commentary. The week. So this comes from Tom are former editor at this game was on switch. I'd be addicted to it and spend tons of money. But it's all mobile I played it for two hours and never touched. It again praying doesn't get released on it doesn't get released on switch. Guy all snidey. That is the guys from. So Bush splits. Yes, push. Yeah. You guys are also up guy. So guy also mighty says, I feel the same as Tom Tate. I don't like mobile games. I don't know why I played this. When it first came out for a few hours, and then got tired of it. Tired of it would play if it weren't mobile. And then oh, we have Jeffrey in here. J queasy year. I rarely keep mobile games on my phone would always prefer controller. So apparently a lot of people felt like. Felt like us on that. You know, it wasn't if if maybe if you cut down the Tom or something you get a little bit more into, but if it was like a mainland game. But if free to play and trying to squeeze money out of it. I mean, if they retooled this game is kind of like Diablo clone. Switch you know, where it was a little less story a little bit more just going in and fighting and having fun. I could see the series becoming something. But as a stands right now. Yeah, I mean, this is this is not Nintendo's finest hour. We to thank you for listening to the podcast. And if you're listening on apple I tunes, we would ask that you would leave us a four and a half star review. No, really just making five star review. No more. No more half stars thought. We talked about that. Yeah. Exactly. That's this joke. Man, come on. I'm Joe now have star joke to the to the brink in horse repeatedly to the absolute limit. Wars type of people. Budget our budget dot arcada gmaiLcom if you have any suggestions for the for what games you'd like us play. You can follow us on Twitter at budget. Arcade. I did switch it this week. Thank you from there. You can join our discord service server, kid, talk and music by stem, and you can download his music at metro metal dot com all of our links in the show notes. Here listening on. Youtube please leave us a like and a subscription, and we will get to. Actually, I know what you got. Okay. Real quick. We did get our first request for the first play, and maybe streaming these. So let us know kind of what works best for you guys. I know pretty much Monday through Wednesday. We would have to do it maybe on the weekend. And let me know what type of obviously, we're on XBox. But let us know what type. What streaming service you guys used because no magic though it all mixer, but I know a lot of people don't use that. So I could I do have a Twitter account that I could stream too. But yeah, just let us know. We'll try to get into a game, and I can show how God all fighting games. I am. Now right now you may in next week game on.
Is it a Game or Is it an Activity
"Hey, listen. And welcome to another Tom Tate top the show where we discuss points that are important to the gaming community, or at least the two of us and sometimes top five list times when replaying sometimes we like to just talk and talk and talk joining me as always we have, Danny. I enjoy Via's always is Trevor good morning. So we'd like to open up with a little bit of oh letter week plan. So at any what you've been planning I could play the game. It's pretty one by any sorts gives and it's called the mind where the idea of the lane is you guys are essentially playing the numbers cooperatively from one to one hundred sending order, and there is no communication. You just have to find a way to communicate without communicated at just know if I was playing this this number now, I have to play before you. Landover that is higher. When do I think you would play in that sounds strange, but it's really need thing of like finding way to just sit there and communicate this idea of while I'm not gonna play for a while. Because I have high numbers you've probably should before me unless you have numbers, which as I don't know what we're gonna do. And it's it's a fantastic game. I've had a lot of fun playing it. And there's always a moment where we just sit. Backing each other know, what are we doing here? It's it's hilarious every time. So I've been playing the mind. What have you been? I've been playing a very very indepth intricate game coal Blackstone fortress by games workshop. It is a the newest entry in knee wermer quest line tons and tons of miniatures. It's a little bit of a exploration game. As there's things you can discover play a lot of death in its adventure storytelling characters die permanently plus back to life. Lots of play. So that's what we've been playing a to get into our topic this week. You may in our picks. We are going to be discussing the pros and cons. If you will of a game that is more of an activity versus action game with winner loser. That so I will be taking these site of pro game. I'll the side of pro technically conduct but from a timidly as a game. So now, it's a pro and con of one topic where each take a pro of two separate topics and try to the con- of its posing. So to start off with. I like to think of it like this. I would not call hostage were jump. Rope. A game it is an activity now, you can have fun doing it too. I myself did improv will over ten years, and we would play a little short form games. Like you'd see whose line is it anyway where the still better yet. Everything's made up the points. Don't matter where you're trying to do things like get through the ABC's and someone has to start by saying a, but you can't say who's gonna go next needle clock by C. Start a else in groups beat someone else. See but ever to people the same thing at the same time. It got start back over and yet it can be fun to have an activity. But in the ends is there a winner is their leisure, you know, even with a cooperative game like Blackstone fortress. There's very clear definitions of who won and who lost you're working together. But did you beat the game where the game beat you? There's a sense of compliment that comes with an actual game. There's a competitiveness where even if the competition twenty players it's a competition of trying to achieve your goal victory. Versus just end of existing in the end, you kind of look at yourself ago. Well, that was fun. But what are the gain from that? Let's all I've heard a definition once said that made sense where basically the difference between activity in the game is whether there's a define victory condition. And and also heard also the same argument is the difference gave if you have a choice ter- thing if you don't have a choice in it than it's considered more activity or do choices than it's Warwick game. I I can see both arguments. But I disagree with both. I think a game boils down to if people have fun playing it that it could be a game of it doesn't have to have a defied victory condition. Doesn't have a winner or loser. Although like, something the mind is a good example of that there you are working cooperatively. You can lose their isn't objective that you are completed. But I I've heard the argument that some people some name is just like that. I am not playing that is a game to Timite wool. So you don't play activities like not toys growing up. Like is not okay. I'm like, you can still have fun with that. I give you permission. But you know, you don't just because it's not defined as the game doesn't mean that fun with it. And therefore that doesn't mean it's not a game. Just because you don't think it falls in that definition. I don't know if you have any examples that that disapprove that. But I think even have just as much fun playing activity and calling it a game as you could with a normal game. Interesting now to me, I've always I guess define a game as something that you can learn from something that you can take away from versus, you know, an activity could be something like connect the dots. Is it a game? Not a pseudo is an activity. Did I really learn anything take anything away again toll story about hey, you know, patrons three my Sadako, but she still working on. But to me a game is, you know, you have a story to tell from it even something that a lot of people have defined Moore's activity role playing games young, you know, very odd their Sony different RPG's others like the dread system that just uses changing there's a very loose set of rules to it. But it still a because. Yes, there is that choice. Yes. There is that failed state. But you can tell story from you can see that you are a different person. Coming out from that experience any were winning going into it. So you can have a moment to kind of say you beat the final and boss wizard, and it was all down to you and your car drawn table, they had dead to rights manage to sneak out that victory now, maybe it was not the actual game play that managed. Maybe you have leeann master. But you still got tell story up you still got to something to take away from necks -perience, and that to me's really defines a game versus even something like a Tenzin that yet there's choice. Yeah. There's a clear winner losers. I guess but really rolling Ted vice and the first one to make all the numbers match wins. Do I have a story to tell about that? Absolutely. Not because it was. Yeah. This one kind of dice with brands and I managed to get ten sixes. I. I think a good example that the there's a game that I just got a game that I just got recently called impact in its rehabilitation of a game called strike, and the ideas like you rolled dice into this. Trae assert one of the sides in impact. As example, there's five elements one inside of a Blake side your goals to not run out of dice before anybody else. You wanna be the last person standing, so when you stole a die into their land on something if it matches element that's already in the Drake, you take it out. And you score that they can choose to keep going. If you want part of the game is like not the other guys to do that. But if you get a blank side on any of those removed from the game, and you don't get a benefit from that. It's a technically all you're doing is Chuck dice into Trey your only choices whether you continue or not whether that there's a little bit as involve. But I've heard that a lot of people are really debating on whether that's considered a game because you don't have a choice over the strategy. Sure. Like, you you don't really have a story, but I've been finding that it's a really enjoyable thing to play especially when somebody like knocks over one dying gets three of a kind and empties the train that causes the next plane. Don't all day said, which is hilarious when that happens because it's a little nerve racking for them. But they're probably gonna come away with some pairs or something, you know, it should be fine. But it doesn't mean it will be it. It's a really enjoyable game. But just because of the fact that it doesn't have a story light theme is by all means dry. There's no reason for that theme. I think it still has a lot to go with of being enjoyable a intens e you know, like, it's it's hard to say that game. I can see why people enjoy it on the fact of of crazy frantically chucking dining who doesn't like that. It's the same reason why you technically jump roping as an activity, but if you're gonna jump roping tournament, you know, go longer that's game in that point. And it's probably enjoyable for people who like jump Ruben. So so another thing that has to be addressed. I guess is. We're also seeing this in in the world of digital gaming to where you have this term. Walking. Excuse me. I hate that term where people are saying, oh, it's not a game because you're just walking through this house in in your, you know, clicking on phasing in reading little note cards continue one. I've had better experiences with things that a lot of people wouldn't quantifies gain than action games where you know, play something like dark souls that that know criminal creme of games when people talk about video gaming end, anyhow something like gone home. That's literally you walking through a house and discover that your sister has run off to be with the love of her life. When the whole time you're thinking, she's dead in the attic. With spoilers if you haven't played gone home by now, then it's like four years. Just in case if you heard this now, forget it pause. The video play the entire game for activity of going. Yes. It's Illinois minutes playing on home. And then come back outback in the remember what you heard spoiler. But meanwhile, things that are. So a perfect example in why I picked. This game to talk about was Blackstone fortress. It isn't many juice game there or combat scenarios to play through with a grid and a aboard speak of your figures moving around doing combat trained. Eliminate the enemies. Get to the elevator move on the next challenge. The challenges aren't always combat the some of them are just simple role. Trated this thing if you will of number you pass. But the Mattingly is the story of we've gone onto the next level. All sudden a door locks in front of us ways in gas starts to spew in we need to try to unlock the door. Only this one character can can have the door panel and try to get us through. So that we don't all died on Deepal. Excellent fortress and can get back to our own base. And even that in and of itself, even though it's not necessarily a game is a role digital the thing. It's still has so much more of an impactful in because through this combat through these adventures through these challenges you are forming a bond or forming a relationship with your character in one to seat him succeed. You wanna see the hero's journey pleaded that to me is where it gained truly shines where you can say, I was this person. Or I did this thing I managed to complete this insurmountable task. Versus you know, even jump rope competition sometimes people that you know, I injured nitric on jump three. That's a terrorist. Yep. It at the same time. Well, I mean, yours at least four of the the thing is I feel like people label activity or label games at athletic activity story tone as activties in order to say that just an excuse for me never to play them. Or if I end up playing and have fun. I've just redacting what I'm saying. I just proven myself wrong. And I feel like people have that stigma like alternative, it's not a real game. So what I'm saying is that just because a an activity is labelled as such doesn't mean that you can't enjoy it doesn't mean you can't call it a game because calling it an activity as opposed to a game in China to get these define terms is just making you. Basically like your frayed to counteract or contradict yourself by doing that. Like, I mean, if I if I saw like I imagine like the alpha gamer like I would never play Tenzin activity that game. Like, I am edges walking in on the one day. The Cliett like ruling giggling crazy. That's not a game. It's tippety. You didn't see anything I feel like a loud interact with they would be doing that. Like that. It's like sure playing video game by yourself. Like that story. Like, I don't I wouldn't call going home an activity. I think it is a game. Even though there's no real ratchet that that there's no fail state. There's no choice necessarily. I mean, kind of not really of. But getting that version in it white tin, you say that that's. That's why worry about people saying of active versus a game. I'm self. You told me tons of stories about happy Sam what I want to find that as a game not necessarily time seven fame. Eight people running around table acting like complete total. Yeah. He still awesome bids fed test. Could I game is amazing? So that's kind of our our pointing counter points with activity versus game. I hope you enjoyed watching this or listening to it. If you stood on podcast down below please first off hit the subscribe button. If you have not already hit the bell, do everything you need to do give thumbs up wherever you're doing. Give us all the praise you can whether you liked it or not. And then we want you to join in on the discussion. So if there's any points that we didn't hit or if that you want to chime in on maybe you have an experience differs from ours. That some that we didn't say please by all means joining on the conversation, keep it friendly, of course. And it's no you loved gone or like Tennessee that still. Yeah. Or or maybe you competed in r- open competition. We don't know. But by all means joined it on the fun of plea is like to say, I just make sure even if you like. Video sometimes podcasts to like to go for job mobile to go for running confined on any under favorite podcasts. Forums and Don notices than listen to his anger, you go please do that end until this has been talk in table top. I I have been Trevor, and it will see you next time. Not with me. 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Writing for Performance (Live from Boston)
"You're good at art because you work hard at your art start with this podcast featuring Knightdale creators Joseph Inc and me. Jeffrey Craner each episode. We discuss a topic and then give you two assignments something to consume and something to create. Start with this writing for performance. Uh hard starting is if you want to start somewhere with this you can start heard this way back in two thousand five. I went to Chicago to see my friend Jen. She said she wanted to take me to see a show. She wouldn't tell me anything else about it. Just come see the show with me. She said and we have deep dish pizza seats Which is technically not pizza but congealed tomato soup in a bread bowl and then we went up to Andersonville to see the neo? futurists performance show called the infinite wrench. Although back then it was called too much. Light makes the baby go blind. I was thirty at the time and I had been writing most of my life and writing plays for at least he's ten years and I'll be honest. I have never seen anything like this show. There was no fourth wall. But it wasn't improv either. It was wadey serious sometimes sometimes It was also funny and weird sometimes and it all moved so fast thirty short plays performed in a random order competing leaving against a countdown clock set. For exactly one hour the performers were not actors or at least not acting parts that weren't really themselves and they played lead with the basics of storytelling audience involvement like a kid and sandbox building than destroying building than destroy. And I had never seen anything like it and these sixteen minutes changed how I thought about theater. Not just as an audience member but as a writer. I didn't want to write things just because they were good stories. Sir Because the language was compelling I wanted to write words created immediate action. I wanted to write scenes that acknowledge the presence of an audience. One of the first place perform that night in two thousand five at the NEO future area and Andersonville Chicago was what really shook me as a writer. It was so simple title so ingenious and it was called for no apparent reason and despite the late hour the neo futurist and the audience members sat down to an awkward continental gentle breakfast. I'm Jeffrey Craner. And I'm here by myself in my closet that doubles as a recording studio. What follows me is a recording of a live? Show that we did in Boston. The weekend of the pod Tales Conference joining me and Joseph on stage that night was neo futurist writer for the podcast unwell and the creator of that brilliant play i. I just mentioned boulevard Di all right. Let's get started. The Vogel is you try to get you excited working on your writing or your Political political work is that you were doing civil assignment at a time. 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Monday was my mother's birthday. today is London's birthday in Friday's Jackson's birthday, so a bunch of June birthdays so. June because I wasn't sure what month it was for a second June knowing in the. Bad thing about it is You know they can't have any parties. You know so today we. We put together something special for them. I ain't gonNA. See I we. My wife did I paid for it, but my wife put together something special for them I'm excited about it so when they get up this morning. We set up a whole carnival theme in the Family Room. We took out all the couches to chairs. We put up a blow to blow things like the Carnival we had You know Will, you throw the Whatever the beanbag the cans. It's a whole Carnival theme Popcorn and Cotton Candy Swimming Pretty Dope when he wake up, so. That's all we can do. We can have any parties. No friends could come by, but we're trying to make it as hard as possible as them and trying to keep any type of of a of a little bit of normalcy. Candidate just the five of them as a party loan I you're you're absolutely right. You are absolutely right. To Own. Temper you said what now. The two. Younger ones like that absolutely absolutely. And you. Can. Only tolerate envy. But you know with pandemic has made the family a lot closer because we're all stuck with each other. You know there's no I'm going out with my friends I'm going to play. Basketball got football practice. It makes everybody coexist, so we do everything together one day. You know everybody might be drawing. You know next day you know. We all might be listening to music next day. You know we drove monopoly. Are Drawn? Shadow drop. Really throwing pepper, pepper, pig, and things like that so anyway. We got a great show for you today. Kirk Franklin will be joining us this morning. Og Kirk. Versus battle, Sunday against Fred, Hammond sure did. Shortly the collection plate. Don't you? Only the collection plate that was going to a? Did you see? Let's get this show. Cracker Front pays what we're talking about. Well, Jill, Biden is speaking out. He was in Philly yesterday morning, and he was talking about a Donald Trump's response to George flay protests, and some of his own plans all right. We'll get into that next. Cuba locked this the breakfast club good morning. Everybody is TJ Envy Angela Ye. Shall I mean the Guy We are the breakfast club? Let's get in some front page news. Where we saw. Well yesterday Joe. Biden was speaking from Philadelphia. City Hall and he was talking about a bunch of different things. One thing he discussed was how racism has to come to an end in this division. Here's what he said. Can't we this moment thinking that we must again turn away and do nothing. For our nation to deal with systemic graces to deal with the growing economic inequity that exist in our nation to deal with the denial the promise of this nation. It's take more than talk. About. In addition, he talks about police. Reform is Joe Biden had to say about that down payment on what is long overdue. She'd come now. She come immediately I call the Congress to act this month I'm measures. It will be the first step in this direction starting with real police reform Congressman Jeffries has a bill to outlaw choke holes. There are other measures a stop transferring. Transferring weapons of war to police forces improve oversight and accountability to create a model use of force standard, looking ahead in the first one hundred days in my presidency I've committed to creating a national police oversight. Commission I've long believed. We need real community policing. We all need to take a hard look at the culture. Two allows for the senseless tragedies to keep happening. I'll be honest. Let me start learning. That's what he's supposed to say like. He is supposed to say that like. Do we think any differently? Would he get up there and say anything else? But that now I just pray to God that. If when he wins the presidency, he follows through with everything that he says or no. No, it's not about winning. The presidency is about getting him to make those policy commitments publicly now okay I. I watched it yesterday. It was good. You know he's. He's talking to what he needs to talk. He's talking about dismantling just immigration. He's talking about investing in the. The black community through legislation economic justice listen if if President Barack Obama was JFK Joe Biden has the opportunity to be Lyndon B Johnson. He had the opportunity to justice progressive on race and class at LBJ was, and he better because they know gonNA come to come to America until you do right by the Black Community Perry. Okay all right well here's. Here's what he had to say about. Economic Justice yesterday. trumark injustice, we need economic justice as well as an media step Congress should act now to rectify. Racial inequities allow cove nineteen recovery funds to be diverted from where they live. I'll be sending forth my gender, an economic justice and opportunity in the weeks and months ahead, but it begins with healthcare. America has to tone for its original sandwiches slavery. That's the only way this nation will ever heal, and the only way to heal racial inequities is legislation in reparation so joe go ahead? internatio black woman running mate you. You already committed to a black woman on the Supreme Court that'll be your Lyndon B Johnson Thurgood Marshall Moment and lean into this black agenda. Lean into this least reform. Economic Justice for the black community and God there and. Try to bring this thing home in November because not. Joe Biden did sweep seven presidential primaries yesterday, not a surprise at all because. Nobody wanted handlebar. Posing him, yeah, so it's not surprised at all, but those are the results I'm in Ferguson, also elected their first black mayor, so that happened in Ferguson and Obviously. That's something I think that's a really positive thing. In Ferguson, so shout out to them. L. Jones took fifty four percent of the vote in that race salute. I'm Angela. He and that is your front page news all right? Get it off your chest. Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, five one. If you're upset, you need to hit us up right now again. Numbers Eight, hundred, five, eight, five hundred five warnings to breakfast morning the breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad. Blessed Eight, hundred, five, zero, five one. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, WHO's this? Was Gaddafi Chess. The CHARLEMAGNE! Big! Pick up! You guys every avenue. These Tang. Yeah this is a guy looking guy looking in. The play Games watch from this time right so. What I would really want to happen in America within the next couple of years. You concur wrong anyway. I something wrong, so this is. So. I hear that native American Indians. They get something like. Morning every month government. That truth. Out that's. Something something to that effect. Yeah, yeah I, mean I'm in south Florida right now so I know that it does to get a check every month I mean. by the way that they're like Yo. I was so like we you come to this country. Get yourself a seminole girl because DVD banking all. Must I mean? That's that's what I heard. When I was saying, I think the best way to get rid of What's happening in America? Really, kind changed with protests are because you just throw in all these people for like born in raised, and I live in South Carolina. Aitken and aching some got some. Really, you know so so people are. Brings his pot, so some people that will never change. Protests. What I think should happen hike, you should. Have like. As a person, a funny business. Doberman should put into play something where you want to a kitchen. You need for grant money to get your. He does being black. Love to see because. You. Walk into that building you walk with shakes to purchase if you WANNA to be a big cup. Check the purchase oven, and and all the and then people gotta is lacking Jewish communities. You got people who come into the Jewish community. These. So black people should support visits partly. Like. I said I, said to my friend the other day. NBA Sales and anybody everybody. s black decide the Lakers. Ain't nobody wants. Wife there you know what I mean so. I'm saying. What I want. You need. To create season. Right now, most the. Goddamn Akina sawfish right now. I don't know why all of a sudden. I started craving. mckiness office sold badges now. Only hundred mackey and selfish right now get it off your chest, eight, hundred, five, five, zero, five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now with the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast club. Visit your time to get it off your chest or the. On breakfast. On Your Hello, WHO's this? J? Get it off each Hasbro Hey, good morning Dj. Every morning I listened to Charlemagne, with his commentary about back, recreations creations along with his Need for a black female, vice, President! Reckless commentaries like that. Like Song. Is Going to allow twelve walter right into the whiteout. What benefits? The populate snapping. Like, we're having now. He believes that. A brinks truck. Of every back household and dump a bag of money. That's not gonNA happen. They should not happen. He does not old black America nut. Only thing he does. Black America is basically civil justice. Okay, and make sure that there are criminal justice reform along with these police department. Esp should demilitarize the police department if I'm correct. The main said that he was a dropout, but yet because of determination and hard work, he's going now. DOC amount hat every opportunity in a draw. Hang hang up on his. They WANNA do. The the reason I'm hanging up on him because the vice president Joe Biden. Even things different. You heard him yesterday yesterday. He's talking about dismantling systemic racism yesterday. He's talking about investing in the black community through legislation and economic justice. Any stupid as Negro says America doesn't all black people is a Goddamn sell out hell? Yes, they owe black people. We built this country for free. They have to atone for their original sandwiches slavery and that's the only way this nation's going over hill, and and the only way. We're GONNA ever have he'll. Racial inequalities is through legislation and reparation not checked Hello Helene talk about and why we need to make it simple math. Because in two thousand, twelve from two thousand, two thousand sixteen four point, four million people that were registered to vote didn't show up vote. A third of them were black. Okay, knock it off and black women vote for voted for Hillary ninety percent of the time. So why wouldn't you lean into your base? Why argue with them? I hate dumb. Why wouldn't you want black people to get economic justice why you all? Why are you argue with that? Why they. Work. That's why I don't talk to the five o'clock well as well it's it's before surly. Goddamn blood pressure go. Mike Person, saying black people shouldn't get nothing that was wrong with you I. Don't understand Y'all votes. A quid pro quo can't number demanded nothing your life, you. y'All just want to get what the white man give you who the y'all thought. Breathe. I need you to breathe Moussa Moussa Funds. To call therapist right now. Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one zero five won't get it off. Your chest got away. Yes, and it looks like Amanda. Sales is not renewing her contract with the real. We'll tell you what you had to say about that. Yes and also will be discussing a radio show. That should not be renewing their contract. Well. At least I heard shouldn't be renewing their contract. Seals on the railway. Rooms next the breakfast club Immonen the breakfast club. Everybody is Dj Envy Angela Ye shall together we all the breakfast club? Let's get to. The Room is less talk. Amend seals. Remove. This. Is the rumor report with Angelique on the breakfast club. Well Amanda feels leaving the real. She says she has not renewed her contract, but she wants to make sure people don't make up their own narratives about what happened and here's what she had to say. My contract is up at the real and I did not renew it because it doesn't feel good to my soul to be at a place where I cannot speak to my people the way they need to be spoken to and where people who are speaking to me in disparaging ways are not being handled. I'M NOT IN A. A space where I can as a full black woman have my voice and my co workers also have their voices, and where the people at the top are not respecting the necessity for black boys to be at the top to listen man muster scared. My sister meeting betting on ourselves for a long time. You know one thing about independence. Once you have something independently. It's very hard to give up your freedom and go you know work for your own corporation and smart funny and blankets and Brandon. MANZIEL's built, which makes people. Want to be in business with her, so she's always got that absolutely gonNA. Stand up. She's GonNa. Keep doing smart funny I'm black amongst other things and she going keep prospering the way she was before there was the real. Don't get it twisted. She got a plan. Amando always has a plan should be fun. She. said it's hard, you know once you've been independent. You know making your money to be a part of corporations. Getting that freedom is priceless. And speaking of these talk shows during the day Megan McCain She is, of course as you know on. The view is one of the CO host there. She wrote on twitter about the protests that have been taking place in New York. She said my neighborhood in Manhattan is. It looks like a warzone to Blasios Cuomo an utter disgrace. This is not America are leaders have abandoned us and continue to let great American cities burned to the ground and be destroyed. I never could have fathom this well. Another person who lives in her building Kristen Bartlett, who writes for TBS his late night program responded Megan. Building and just walked outside. It's fine so calm. Shut down pretty quickly, care she. Told Sal Care Right. No fire over here care. All Right? Yeah, keep the drama to a minimum I writing Kimberly and bet there on a radio show in a Rochester New York on ninety five point one, and they were having a conversation about the attack of a local couple after protests that were happening in downtown, Rochester, and Kimberly and Beck actually had this to say. Were they acting and word ish? There's request. They were acting fugger like I think they're seeing n word, Lee Yeah, and by the way he can't say that. What are you doing? Hey, if that were? Part of the problem. Not Fuck so if you look like a thug, and if you act like a dog, and you got three on one and beaten up. A white woman was a two by four by God. You're a thug, and by the way there are people in the black community would say they're acting and work. They can see that. You can't say that. It's double standard. I WAS GONNA say! I don't appreciate the Devil Santa Oh interesting. Kimberly. You're acting a white deadly. Generally, you're acting crackly. You're acting truly kimberly. Okay you! You was a white woman cannot say and wordly, even if you're in the proper context, I don't care how many times you watch. The N Word Versus Black People Joke from Chris Rock. I'll get how many times you've heard me. Say I don't talk to end words after five PM. You can't say that. I would like to know what you know what she's calling and thuggery, but I would like to know what she's calling. The white people who are out there protesting in Luton that's what I would like to know. What is she calling them when she sees White Lewis because there's a lot of them, what does she call them? That's what I want to. Well I'M GONNA assume they didn't take part in blackout Tuesday yesterday. Supporting Black. And supporting these movements, and this is what they decide to do, so we shall see. Percussions for that I don't know who that was in the room telling her she can't say that, but whoever was absolutely right, if that was beck, Kimberly and Beck if. You're absolutely right back. Kimberly can't say that there was a guy saying I think right. That was a guy saying that you can't see that. It's a kimberly and Barry Beck as Barry Beck. Okay was there. Becky Kim Becky Okay Becky I don't. All right well Angela Yee and that is your room a report all right, thank you, missy now. We got for a patient. WHO's next talking about? Yes, we'll give you some updates on George Floyd and what's happening you know. A lot of things went down yesterday. We told you about the March bombie actually called in to disgust that so we'll give you some more details and we'll. We'll talk about Joe Biden speaking yesterday. We'll give you some highlights of what he had to say about plans. Moving forward right also Kirk. Franklin will be joining us next hour, so we'll kick him a kirk, Franklin. So don't move. Is The breakfast club good morning morning? Everybody is TJ Envy Angela Ye. Shall I mean the guy? We are the breakfast club in some front page news. Where we start you. Yesterday! There was a march for George Floyd and just say you know George plays. Go find me raise more than ten million dollars in five days so that go fund me is being managed by attorney. Ben Crump, and they were seeking to raise one point five million, but they've raised more than ten million dollars in five days, so that's. Yeah to his children to mental in grief counseling to cover funeral and burial expenses although they did accept floyd. Mayweather offered to pay for the funeral. So that's going to cover all of those things to assist the family as they are also seeking justice for George Floyd. Now thank. Minneapolis not to pay money to a lot of money, too. I mean the money doesn't bring a dad bag, but at least it pays a lot of the stuff that the dad was going to do for them. I'm sure for schooling to everything. And they go need their. Lifetime therapy in grief cops real. Now there'll be memorial services for George. Floyd, taking place in at North. Central University in Minneapolis that's going to be happening tomorrow, Saturday, there's a public viewing memorial that will take place on Monday a memorial take place in Houston, at the Fountain of Praise Church Now George Floyd's door gee-gee. She's six years old and this video just really makes you. Want shut its hair. If you didn't shed a tear when you first wasted in here, she is, she is actually sitting on Stephen Jackson shoulders and here's what she had to say. What? I love it I. Love it now. The world. And the mother of George Daughter, Roxie Washington actually told reporters that she wants to see justice for Floyd, and for her daughter as well. Here's some things that she had to say. Does not able form. He will never see A. Row Up graduate. He will never walk down. The problem sees having. A day. He doesn't add. Any more. On just his for him because he was good. No matter what anybody thinks? Right. Now Joe Biden we told you he did sweep seven presidential primaries in addition, and that was no surprise. Obviously, there's nobody that we know that running against him. That's going to. Make him not sweep, but you know we do have more elections happening next week on Tuesday, so we'll tell you what states that's going to be an will keep on making sure that people do vote in. If you're not registered to vote, make sure you're registered to vote. Make sure you let your census form, but Joe Biden was talking yesterday in Philadelphia and he was talking about. Please perform. Down payment on what is long overdue should come now. She come immediately. I call on Congress to act this month, so measures that will be the first step in this direction starting with real police reform Congress, Jeffries has a bill to outlaw choke holes. There are other measures transfer any weapons of war to police force improve oversight and accountability to create a model use of force standard, looking ahead in the first hundred days my presidency. I've committed to creating a national police oversight commissions. I've long believed. We need real community policing role need to take a hard look at the cultural allows for the senseless tragedies to keep happening. Joe said all the right things yesterday in Philadelphia and we need him to keep making. Policy Commitments like that publicly? Because voting will not change things unless the people we put in want to change them. This white supremacist system is by design. Okay, the whole function systemic racism is the marginalized black people, and it's very hard to get any old white man to change. The system has been working for him and his family for years, so yes, the only waste immigration will be dismantled if the people who benefit from it want to dismantle it so I'm glad he was talking about dismantling systemic racism and glad he's talking about economic justice investments into the black community. That's the only way he. Could keep saying over and over JFK with President Obama. Biden has to be Lyndon B Johnson S it. Congressman Jeffries. Senator congressmens every. He actually reference when he talks about blowing the outlying. The chokehold that is actually my congressman represents my district here in Brooklyn and you know on June Blattman elections here in New York City, but yes I love Vet Clark in Brooklyn I love Hockey Jeffrey, so make sure we support that now. Bank of America has committed one billion dollars to help combat racial inequality at is the nation's second largest bank and what they're saying. Is that one billion dollars to benefit communities of color over the next four years the money will go toward a number of different areas like employee recruitments job training support to small businesses housing aid. Aid and the expansion of health services like vaccination clinics, so according to the CEO he said underlying economic and social disparities that exist have accelerated and intensified during the global pandemic, the events of the past week have created a sense of true urgency that has arisen across our nation particularly in view of the racial injustices. We have seen in the communities where we work and live. We all need to do more. And I say. Good I was GONNA. Say This Bank of America to Bank of. America changed the policy that really affects a lot of small business owners Bank of America, because a lot of small business owners been hitting me about this Bank of America. Usually, if you write somebody a check, it usually clear from three to five days, but now the checks clearing in ten to twelve days, which is a problem for a lot of small business owners, because if somebody a check. Check. They can't get their money for ten or twelve days. which is a problem and a lot of business, owners are leaving bank of America because they can't wait twelve days for a check declare. That's affecting a lot of businesses. I wanted to say that to a Bank of America. Hope someone listening 'cause. They got to change that it wasn't always as we actually use bank of America for juice for life. use it for a lot of money. But changing. Well I'm glad they put up that billion dollars for a you know racial justice because we gotta keep pushing America tone this original sin, which is slavery, and the only way to heal is through legislation and reparations. Yes, the black community needs an economic justice package. We need that bag and we get it. Okay, that's that's why they keep telling people. Don't be afraid to make demands right. What's your votes? All right well I am. I'm Angela and that is your front page news. Did you get your name? Would you have to think about? Bank of. America right now and I was like China Sea about what they do because I was. You know concerned, but we don't ever write checks anymore. Anyway, because we just do everything electronically. Yeah, but for some people like if you write checks to people to get a receipt, a lot of small business owners telling me that Bankamerica checks clear and tended business days seven to ten business days before was three to five, but anyway. Up Next Kirk Franklin will be joining us. We'll kick it with Kirk. Franklin's to don't move is to breakfast club morning the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is TJ Envy Angela Yee Shalabi Nagai. We are the breakfast club. You got a special guest on the line. The brother Kirk Franklin. Beautiful people manage an honor to be here and I WANNA. Make sure you know if the if I need to take this, you know Bandanna I'd you know trying to come this morning? But look sauce by need to take it off I. Take It. You know I'll let you. Kristen CRIP VIBES sny. Let's thank. You have a fresh haircut to can I see that line on the side? Come about. No is that what? Tell you. I watched. You watched a good brother Bishop, td Jakes I watched Fred Hammond all in studio together with no damn mask on. Believe in God to and I got thrown Israel. Everybody that came into student attempts, and it's very difficult to be able to speak to the people and communicate an effective way when we're having to do it in a mess, so you know we were doing the best we can, but for the sake of hope and encouraging the people would put ourselves out there well, thank you for that versus battle on Sunday that was amazing and I think. The time couldn't have been any better at all. Because we all needed that man. No I was very humble. Swift and tim hit me. It was something that I would never do an anonymous the tuition because I think the platform is not to Paducah I think in. Gospel Music or Christian? As just because we talk about you know someone bigger than us. You know to to try to say you know that. The Music God gave me. It's don't, but then the guy gave you you know, and you know just Cana would have not always reflected. What I what I think. The biggest story is, but because we were able to do it for the people where we were able to do it for something, they had a bigger narrative. Is it I thought it was a great moment. It wasn't a battle is just don't call it a battle. It is give each other flowers as kind of Repin each other and represent each episode we. We call it versus, but it's more like given artists and producers and writers their flowers while they're here and we definitely needed that one this weekend. KNOCKER gals great, but who won who you think, one now come on. Let's. Hope that Gospel, music one then I. Hope that Gospel Music Fresh I hope that people. Could you know conceive energy because when you look at all the? Music that are curated by people of Color. You know a lot of times gus. Music is one of the low hanging fruit your day against so to be able to beyond et that platform to be able to keep it a buck with people about you know the hurt and pain, and and be able to see the entertaining DNA of Gospel Music as well. That was pretty fresh. Ford was able to present that to coach now. What do you tell people that? Fans that follow you right now with everything. That's going on from covid nineteen. Corona virus to. to protest it and what happened with George Floyd? What what what are you telling? Your people is I try to say. That, I don't understand everything that that that I we put those that we and and and a moment those who mourn that there's a lot of times is is not necessarily always stole about scripture at every. Can thing a lot of times you just gotTa? Be Solid and feel the pain with people, and when the opportunity permits itself, then you give them another narrative and another optic of what they look like, and you do license. People is I. think that was made this moment also. Divine as well as painful as that we all on the same level, and so I just try to be on the front line in the middle of the struggle with my people absolutely. Was You had wander Cooper Jones the mother of Ahmad I. Actually called in, and that was a tear jerking moment for that to happen, but it was also inspirational as well. Thank you and I was very intentional about that like a hundred her down when when? When this versus situation came up post like we need an element that can remind us, and you know his unfortunate thing. We are having so many black soldiers fall during the civil war that a lot of times you can forget the soldier before the soldier you dig, and so I, just thought that it would be a very powerful moment for this beautiful of queen to know that, even in the midst of Mr Floyd suffering that we also know that before. Mr Floyd was missed Albery, and so sometimes a Mumbai Michael. Imagine that you make forget the people move-on. Yours and I want her to know that the pain is transferable, and then we see you as well and we remember you and we've got you. You know cart. You've got a single called strong God, and then talks about racism and human race needing hailing. Have this song already made prior to the different George Floyd was just a result of his murder. Man I, wrote this song last year, and put it on the latest album alone that love, and had no idea that it would be at evergreen moment, but you know what at the same time you know. We've been in the state for many many many many many many years and so the. Topics unfortunately these topics evergreen. We should be writing new lyrics. which should be having moving helmet station? But unfortunately we are always having to to open back up the same one, and so that is a problem it's. A problem for culture. It's a problem for Christianity is a problem for social injustice as a problem on the political scale. It's it's a problem socio-economically is that we're always having to regurgitate the same compensation, and that in itself can be deportable. I saw you tweet on May. Twenty ninth pain loses haring after centuries of broken promises, he becomes numb, indefinite anything except tangible change, you cannot love people and not be shipped to your car optics against humanity help. It's found on Netflix. Could sit in the better that you did you know. And and the push got their Charlemagne tone, so you know it. Kind of more powerful that if we are are from the same origin, we all from trump, the same dirt you know scientifically proven that we all come from the soil of Africa, so we all have some type of genetic code inside a bus that makes all of us human. That's why we don't see. Animals cry when they kill each other just. Humans possess a soul that should be universal when somebody aches, and so when when you don't have salvo in the hearts. When humanity hurts. There is a deafening inside of your humanity. There is something inside of you. That is deceased. And I don't care how much you lift your hands or what God you pray to, and so if you can see. People suffering and and screaming help. if I was drowning Charlemagne, and if you drove by me, and if I was drowning in the lake, and if you pulled to the south of the lake, and and if you started saying to me, swim harder. Battle. doggy style and it took a book about how to swim and threw it at the in the water. In your mind. If you think that you're helping me, you've lost your mind. I'm drowning. Can pull over and throw a book at me. Is Out need for you to Yell Jeff Doggy Paddle I need to get your ass in that water and I need for you to come swim. Because I've been drawing long time and I need you to come get me out of that war. Now Kirk I can't swim. Kirk. Can you swim? I Swim I'm a black. Swim me to go into same. Doggy style is Doggy, Pat I know. What were you thinking about, but it's. Doggy. Doggy paddled. Hands on her so. Oh my gosh. How we got more with Kirk Franklin when we come back. Don't move. Is The breakfast club gamonal? A Envy Angela, Ye shall Nagai. We are the breakfast club was still kicking it with Kirk Franklin shallow me. What do you say to a lot of Christians? Who have received backlash for saying that? We need to pray for the cops who are involved in George Floyd's murder. We need to forgive the cops. What are your thoughts on that? It's all the time. It's only like we need to say then. We need to say that we need to pray for the Roman soldiers that killed Jesus. Let's say that you pray for the man that shot Dr. King's then say then. Shea and if you say it saying loud. The Bible says rejoice with those who rejoice in more, and with those who mourn right now we're in the morning state and mourn mourn mourn with us. It makes Christianity duplicitous when you have those type of statements, and that's what people do not trust we are. Already trying to deal with the narratives of the weaponized version of Western Christianity, they we've been dealing with for centuries, and so I'm just trying to rewrite that narrative, and so I'm not playing the anybody right now morning with my brothers and sisters and if a White Christians ahead that conversation now then I. think that they need to check the motives and intent. That's the first time I've heard that you know what. Really people say no. You gotTA praying for the people as her. And I always say I can't. I can't pray 'cause I have. I haven't forgiven him yet. And that's the first time I've heard anybody say usually people like no. We have to pray you know the person that came in and shot the people in the church. We pray for that young man. We forgive him. I can't forgive him because I'm still mourning. Now. Do you think that it should roll it? When you have family right after the Charleston killing that we're gonNA pray for for this young young man, how how roar and how much I want to be like that and I do believe that got allowed in different periods of history those moments that we can try to aspire to, but it should not be judged against stole. That can't do it at that moment. I'll be honest with you I. Don't believe them when they do that. I'm I'm from alborn in Charleston Reagan Corner. Right next to Charleston I don't believe them when they forgive that quick. I guess it's physically emotionally mentally spiritually impossible to get to a place of forgiveness that fast, I don't believe. What, you know, what Bro is is is that I can totally understand. What you're saying that. For Your state and good morning and the pain, but I do believe in my humble opinion. This is my humble opinion. That, there is a supernatural power. That God and give Coretta. Scott King went her husband. Was Martyred for the sake of freedom. They give the power to March and stand, and to pray at and and to keep the narrative going, and and I believe if I believe in God then I got to believe in a supernatural power that can supersede and even trump my human emotions, and being now there's no scientific scientific evidence for it. There's nothing tangible than any data, but that's what the spirit's released. Competitive Edge just look at all. The people look at all the hell. Black folk born through centuries, and still some of the most powerful people on the planet, and and when you look at that. I mean Bro. And I'm getting excited. There's keeping no cap right here. Look at all of the hell out four dollars. Mothers went through. If you didn't hear a lot about suicide. You didn't hear a lot about people just ending. Okay, you hear more about listening I break Mama's and and grandparents. They were not cashing out like we all right now, and they were going through some of the most demonic. Trauma and all the PTSD that a lot of them live, too, but they will still holding on still believing that God was GonNa make a way out of no way, and if they could have done it without the resources that they had. During Jim Crow. Then then there's gotta be a supernatural power that we cannot explain right just how people grieve differently as some points for people, their faith is what will get them through certain things, and that might mean prayer and forgiveness, because that helps you as a person to go on. While at the same time, I can also cosign Charlemagne and anybody else that if you're not there, we need to not just people that they not fair. If they're not there man less mourn with them. That's what I'm saying is that there's a duality that we can be both always ask people you know at times like this. You know a lot of times. People are trying to to get their faith and losing faith a little bit. From cove, nineteen to corona virus, then people open up their small business, and then their business gets looted. What do you? What do you tell those individuals first of all incredible question and I think it is very important. Of People That'll have all the answers. One of one of the most prolific statements that you can come Tom Tate is I, don't know. But I do want to say this. What I don't know that's not cancel out when I do know. And so what I do, Know Ke-. Validity in the middle of the battle, and I can say the people that I was abandoned as a child I was adopted at age of four by six to four year. Old Woman are hurt. My biological mother tell that lady I at thirteen had visited once instead. I didn't even want him. I want an abortion and you met me. My father did one thing for the game. Their haircuts haircut when his father died. died for the funeral never didn't think that's for me I had adhd. Kids laugh at me. Because I was a church boy, I dropped out of high school i. had learning disorder got a key when I was seventeen to church. Kick me out I'm bound that same later that adopted me dated asleep and I remember going to a pawnshop cash. You trying to pawn her wedding ring that she left me because I was. Living in our house, there was not full of breads, and so how can you take somebody like me with no education? I'm vertical child. I can't say. And my career has lasted for over three decades. It's not because I'm the DOPAS. There's so many people that are great embedded the me. It is only the grades and testimony of Christ and so I. Try to let people know that he did that. He can do that for me. He can do that to you. A Kirk is a fellow, vertically challenged man It's not like you playing basketball. Okay, so let's Let's not act like. That's not act like height has a real factor in anything you doing okay. Thank, you don't WanNa. Talk about God because you said until lives matter morning ties matter. Who let me let me hear you did. Somebody passes making all this money. Yeah you know once again. Our brothers and sisters that are in the battle that don't always reflect what the battle should look like you know even if you have a president that is walking in front of a church yesterday. Hold up the Bible where you know he mustang. Read. Psalms one nineteen. You know because some. Says Hideout Word by heart not holding my word dot and. You know. And so. So, so so there are a lot of hypocritical images in every community, and so that's why you try to see me very verbal about the mistakes of Christianity. Christianity and so I can cosign with that. I I I concur, and so and so, but it does not mean that there are the men and women have not been transformed by the Incredible Eternal Message of the Gospel jump through sixteen forgot so loved the world that he gave his only son diesel messages, and so when people make money and make God a lottery than they are missing. The divine purpose of why. Price would give his life but everybody. There's not a person on this. Jesus don't love I got more with Kirk Franklin when we come back, don't move. Is The breakfast club Good Morning? Morning everybody TJ J envy. Angela Yee Charlemagne to guy we are. The breakfast club was still kicking it with. Kirk Franklin Ye Kirk while you're at home during this time. Have you been inspired musically by everything? That's going on around, you know. I can be honest with you. One of the reasons why I wore this shirt. Today is because I started going to therapy during this pandemic I now it's been going to therapy now. Awful about the last thirty years dealing with by. This dealing with my band, diminish shoes, dealing with you know just a rejection as a kid. lot of the trauma that I've suffered as a young man and so therapy and my faith have been my they just been my life, and so the trauma of of of first of all pandemic, and then that was happening now is that I started going back to my therapist and I can be honest and tell you that the motivation to do a lot of music. it's been often on just because I've been just really struggling. I've been really struggling trying to get people just to hold on gets. It's almost like what is the physician when he's sick. You know I'm getting myself back together. Just because I think that y'all needed, Sunday. But I needed Sunday to. That versus moment. Now, what have you been going? You said you were going to ally and I'm sure people are going through the same thing. What were you dealing with that? You said you know what I gotta go. See a therapist right now wasn't anxiety. WH, what was it that you say I have to? Yeah Yeah, but but you know I always broke with Dottie, and then you know as a creative I think almost every creative, and I'm sure of there's just because y'all are curator, and then the attention that you get in the and and and just grabbed your platform. Too much is given much is required and a lot of times people don't and of course you're can man this when you live in the public eye. Your eyes and your lows a different. and so that type of pressure that you live abundant is not realistic so you know just in the pressures of the world, or or are people trusting that you always gotta answer, and they always having to be ready to give an answer. can be very discouraging can be very heavy, and and and I carry the weight of people's hurt. Berry real bro like no cap I'm telling you I would not be doing this music if I did not believe in the dude that I walked with, so it was like I gotTa have somebody to be able to block this team. I can't go to wipe feet with the everyday you know. She made me to be strong with us, so it's like I gotta go to somebody who? Who I can go, he's Chris than me off. It's like somebody else shot man what do I. Do Medicine People Working Right now? You know and I gotTa hold crude gotTa Take Care of Man. You know what to, and and so that type of pressure is i. need somebody the to me so that when I get these incredible platforms with y'all have something to be able to say. Absolutely Kirk What's interesting man you know prior to prior to the quarantine. My therapists had been trying to tell me for the longest. Let go of things that you can't. Control you know what I mean I could never grasp that concept until the quarantine. We had never experienced anything like via so you know what I did. I flipped it right. It it I started leaning more into my faith side. Because already had gotten what I needed from going to therapy, all of those those past these past couple of years I started leading into my face is, so it was more bishop. Td jakes Stephen Verdict more pastor John Graham More Minister Farrakhan. That is the job that I won't be able to communicate to to culture as well is, is that at the end of the day? Are Spiritual beings is that if you live your life depending upon the natural world to be able to feel something that the natural does not have the ingredients to do? That's why that's why no matter how good sex has been for a lot of human beings. A lot of people don't stay with that same. Same One. You're always looking for something different. No matter how much that drug made you feel at that moment you're looking for the next Just because the natural world can't speak to the death of the cry of your soul, your soul was created for something bigger that they human world is not able to able to fulfill it with, and so that's I'm always trying to. That's why I'm always trying to be a messenger to clean up. What a lot of the history of Christianity as messed up because Christianity and Jesus, not always so none. Explain a little bit. Well Christianity is the form in which was brought to communicate what the teaching of Jesus, and now or what the to Jesus was, but. In the sinfulness of man, throughout the narrative of historical context, there has been a lot of. Distraction there's been a lot of abuse of power. There's been a lot of misuse of the statement of Jesus Christ, but that does not mean. That the historic individual of Jesus Christ and what he stood for, and for what he preached is always reflected in the action, historically whether whether to the Crusades whether to the conquest whether do Jim quo whether through colonialism Christianity was always leading and those narratives, and we've got to confessional in in order to get it right. We've gotta confess what's wrong and so that's why I'm always an advocate. Four for platforms like apologetic to be able to communicate the historical accurate narrative of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, as well as pointing out the bull and the foolishness that Christianity historically has done. Absolutely? One last quick question for brother Kirk I was watching. Bishop jakes Sunday. This is a conversation that a lot of me and my folks have been having. Do you believe that we're in the end times you know? that. A lot of people. Can Be so enamored with the compensation of what does this mean? Versus, what do we do? Is I think it's easier to to try to figure out what's happening out there? Instead of looking at this moment to see what needs to be fixed in here. Does that make sense what I'm saying. Purposes so for. People, I, curse. People stopped trying to be so worried about. Where God is. Instead of trying to be more focused on. God with me. For thank. You. My brother now, Bro! And Jessica. You know I'll be paying for you as well as I know. You've been going through some difficult times. Absolutely. You gotTa leave us with a prayer Dobro. Mad Father, I of man don't even know what to say to sometimes in the midst of this because. I don't always understand which your hand is doing. But I've come to understand that when I cannot Chris your hand. That I can trust your heart. And that I can also believe that when the world is out of control that does not mean that you're still not in control. And I do want to say to you, Father. If you've ever been trying to get our attention. You have our attention now. Whatever you want to say to us. Well, we want. To hear. And I know that we come sometimes with our own biases own prejudices. Own Ideals of who you are. But instead of us to make you what we think you are. God. I'm asking you by fake. Show us who you are. Show, what's your face? Let's see your hand. Reveal yourself to us. In this pandemic because we have to pandemics happy three pandemics financial socially politically spiritually more than one just pandemic. There were asking you to be the sovereign God that you are said here the hearts of your people. Lord I know right now. It is show difficult to trust because we're so broken and fragile. So God I'm asking you right now. At mercy. Have mercy on this. And your name quite separate. Man. Hey Man man. Thank. You so much. Thank you, thank you, man. Kirk Franklin is the breakfast club good morning. Guys. The report with Breakfast Club. Today on the talk they've put out a teaser for what's going to be happening in Eve is discussing how she has to have these very difficult and uncomfortable conversations right now because she is married to a white man, so here's what she said I. Am interracial relationship I am having some of the most difficult and all unstoppable conversations I think I've ever had and vice versa with my husband, but at the same time is so beautiful Bain because i. don't know his life his eyes. He doesn't know my like my is. All we can do is sit. All he can do is try to understand. Try to ask the. The question and he wants to understand it's GONNA be uncomfortable, but we have to be okay with being uncomfortable so that we can get to a solution. Thou L. who was alluding to when he was saying. What did you buy racial? No actually got a call about L. I. believe don't quote me. I believe he has a step brother or at half black half white. I believe, and that's what he was referring to. I believe K. Oh, okay when he when he out on twitter, imagine how people raising Biracial Children Phil Right now does this crazy, so he was just having a conversation with her white husband. I get it. Shouldn't be an uncomfortable conversation. It shouldn't be uncomfortable at all. That should be somebody listening and somebody teaching Yeah Yeah. Have uncomfortable conversations I feel like that's fine. Eat something that I mean it's a you know right now in this day and age and everything that's happening. Some of those conversations might get a little heated, even amongst people who love each other yeah. Yeah and it's not even a conversation about race. This is the conversation about humanity. You know what I'm saying like. There's no way a human being can watch that video George Floyd and say oh. That's okay. If you don't feel that way about that, something's wrong with you. You Ain't got no soul. and. You should always feel okay when you're in a space where you feel safe to be able to ask questions to even those difficult questions so like she said you know she. He sees life through his eyes. She sees life through her eyes, so they have to be able to discuss those things and China and she said you know it's hard because she gets very emotional as well so I can see why. I now killer Mike also hosted a virtual meeting with grassroots leaders, and he was highlighting all the ways that they're working to address systemic racism here. Is TMZ live streaming? It Gaza your most important people on the day. Because you do the work. I was told by my mentor. You do not organize on the behalf of people without Organiz it with people so seeing this though I have attention because I'm rapper are want to give that attention exactly where to go, and that's the people were in the fields one work when this Akia Kerry INSA- I just wanted to make sure that along with answering my questions, today or questions for. For me that you didn't hang up the phone looking for people that are doing the work that they're on the phone or on his own call with us, and with that, said outback restless remember when the guy called up earlier and said people need to be meeting coming up with demands coming up with a plan the UP. What killer Mike Killer Mike is doing has been happening. Okay, that's at that one just went public, but we all know Mike the brother that always does the work, but I'm GonNa tell you something. We all need to be plotting and planning in front of the world. Let's let folks just see to. To work. They don't need to see how the food is being cooked. You get more accomplished that way sniper position, stay low, keep fire, if all you brothers and sisters in in the communities. Don't wait on us. Celebrity to help you organize organizers, so don't wait on a celebrity to lead you lead you know your community better than better than any celebrity does so lead well Chicago the mayor. Lori lightfoot, or has already announced new reform measures for police accountability, and also a ten million dollar fund for businesses. There have been harmed in recent days, so there are some new directives, and she says their immediate necessary next steps like improved. Improved training for police officers bringing in community leaders and members of teachers offer so wellness programs, so they can manage their own trauma and stress, mandatory training on crisis, intervention and procedural justice for all officers and a new recruit program for police community relations, so they said they're going to implementing these measures within the next ninety, so nobody can say that work is not getting done. I. Don't think that's true at all Dr. when include Buffalo light for the that shows you low. Life is a black woman. She's a black woman who is in in a in a in a position to do things that benefit the black community. And black face and a high place. She's a black face that cares about black people in a high place, so she can make those type of things happen. That's how users to white supremacy. And she doesn't give F. and she only cares about making sure what doing. What's right and I love it I love that I write Kiki Palmer also took to the streets yesterday, and she was demanding justice for George Floyd and she was spotted at a demonstration she did approach members of the National Guard and here's what happened. Televised beside. US! I can. I can't believe this post. I will march through this street with you. As intersection. This intersection. Sexual but I have control this control. What did the Control Man March widow? Taking new. As Camille. I thought that was great shot the Kiki had the guards get on the knees and everything I love shot to Kiki. How do you love and the Gods? Get on their knees? Oh Hey. Wrongly humidity. So you always take these cakes. Serious man. She had the national guards. Take a knee last yesterday. Man That was that was no. That's not what you say. said. She had you heard what you wanted to hear me? You loved it. There's an inmate in a jail right now here in smile see he wants to. Please continue. This guy's crazy like he. Takes Eight. Everything turned into Kinky. You are right and surviving R. Kelly producer Dream Hampton. She is going to be directing a lack. Wall Street series. She has announced that it's in the works right now. It's a mini documentary series about the Tulsa race massacre in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty one. That's when the Greenwood district was known as a Black Wall Street and that was because of the success of the three hundred African American owned businesses. She said black people from Tulsa have refused to let the Greenwood district massacre be erased from history. I'm so inspired by their persistence to lift up. The stories of North Tulsa was before the massacre, so she's going to be telling that story. can't wait for that story to be told also dream. Hampton is so much more than the surviving on Kelly. Director I hate when. Joe Fault but I just hate when people label her that when we say surviving R Kelly directed dream has been around for a long time doing some great things actually to. Iraq And that is your room rumor report for All right? Thank you Messrs showman. who he given that donkey to LAPD police chief. Guard and be get excited, but the L. A. Lapd. She named Michael Moore Okay. We need him to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a war with him police. Why are you wake up so kinky? Brew. Is, something about Michael Moore that you might like we'll get to it. Goodness I. WE'LL get into the. Don't get a day up next. Is The breakfast club morning? Gang, don't you? Or don't you? Don't you? Don't you today does not discriminate might now have the song of Dave? I got the donkey they. Feel need to be. The Breakfast Club Bitch don't keep today today. Day for Wednesday June third goes to lapd police chief Michael Moore now, I don't know how I missed this but this man has to get the credit. He deserves for being stupid today. Los Angeles police chief. Michael Moore said that looters ludicrous carry as much blame for the death of George Floyd. As the Minneapolis police officers, who actually killed him I repeat lapd police chief Michael Moore said that Lewis carry as much blame for the death of George George, Floyd as the Minneapolis police officers who actually killed him. You can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's listen. We didn't have protests last night. We had criminal acts Redan people mourning the death of this man George Floyd we had people capitalizing his death is on their hands as much as it is officers, and that is a strong statement, but I must say that this civil unrest that we're in the midst of we must turn a corner from people who were. Were who are involved in violence I am a business owner and Angela is a business owner. Dj Envy as a business owner as much as I don't like seeing people's businesses destroyed, not once has watching buildings get destroyed, not once watching a buildings get set on, fire traumatized me in any way I've never gotten a panic attack watching the rolex door get broken. Broken into now once have I gotten heart palpitations. Watching folks steals from veins. You know why because I know all that material. Stuff can be replaced. Buildings can be repaired, but you know it can't be replaced. Once stolen from you. You guessed it your life for one thousand. Alex Okay statements like the one lapd police chief Michael Moore made the sole reason. There's A. A black lives matter movement because we have to keep saying it over and over and over again in the hopes that you may finally understand that black lives to indeed matter because you see as you can see, when is being compared to murderous the net means that this fool, lapd police chief Michael Moore Things, buildings and black people were on the same level. Not to mention. Have you ever heard of cause and effect? There was no looting protesting writing before George. Floyd's Murtagh at the hands of the police in Minneapolis. So, how in the hell did the looters have anything to do with George Floyd Steph. Did okay has. Nothing to do with the other, the only other thing contributing to the looting in America is the fact that the celebrity and chief. Your president didn't handle corona virus pandemic. Well so forty million people ended up out of work largest unemployment rate since the Great Depression era, poverty lack of resources, no money. Stopping okay being broke is what leads to looting. You know whose fault that is the president. The president should carry is much blamed for the looting as the lueders because he made his economic mess period now I know would lapd police chief Michael. Moore said pissed you off. I'm sure at angered you. Well, the LAPD had zone meeting. There was a police commission that met in wake of all the regional unrests going on in the city, and I don't know why dismay Jeremy. Frisk got invited I. Don't know if he hacked system but Jeremy. Frisch got through and I'm glad he did. He had some words for Lapd Police chief Michael Moore Drama I. Want you to turn the music off. Okay, 'cause I love a great read, and this is a great read. Okay on a scale of one to Kaya talking the Trina discipline is about seven or eight. Let's hear. Black lives matter on the police by discussing the LAPD slaughtering peaceful protesters on street I had to go to the protest in Beverly Hills at a couple of days ago, and the protesters peaceful to the police showed up, says of force, shooting rubber bullets and throwing tear gas. Is this what you think protecting? Sorry, because I think it's. You'll michelmore refused the officer corps cheap, because you don't desert, US titles disgrace. And show got a you'll buy you. Drop would include bombs Jamie fresh. As you re? Or Kid fury and crystal. Okay, that was disrespectful. He told LAPD. Police chief Michael Mortis. D In choke on it. How does lapd police chief Michael Mauriac something like that? The you say, F him, he don't know my throat. I would never choke on a deep this here. EAC Jeremy Don't know me on my gag reflex. Does Lapd Police Chief Michael Moore Tell Jeremy? Frisk put some respect on his throat. How do you reply to that kind of read? You don't because lapd police chief Michael Moore's wrong, and that's why he apologized, but we don't care. Please let Kathy Griffin Give Lapd Police chief Michael Moore too biggest CEO. Please give this giant Giro mail the biggest. Hee haw. Okay I was GONNA. Play a game against what race it is, but I think Kathy Griffin. All right. Well thank you for donkey of the day up next. Ask E eight, hundred, five, eight, five one. Oh, five one. If you need relationship, advice or any type of advice, you can hear her up right now. Angelina the breakfast love good morning. What's your? Baby Mama issues needs to words of wisdom. Call up now for at. Eight, hundred, five, one, five, one a breakfast club. Komo. Be Relationship Advice the personal advice, just the real advice. Call up now for deep. Morning. Everybody is the J.. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne Guy. We are the breakfast club. Is Time for ask Ya? Hello WHO's this? Jay Jay, what's your question for Ye? Hey, good morning warning I just WANNA. Ask Angela. How do you cope with moving on from your first relationship like specifically like my high school? I'm fresh out of high school. And I was dating this girl and we had like good chemistry. But life happened and college hyphen guard separate ways, Hey, and when I do concerns terms than. No I was GONNA afterlife. Okay well say you're fresh out of high school. You guys broke up and this is a really difficult time to be breaking up. Somebody because I know a lot of us are distancing. There's a lot of things in the world that we're dealing with at the same time. Why did you guys break up? Really, It was just we had to take our different at. In College. Like. Eight and you know I was going to another country. You know to. Spend time with my homeland and study there and we kind of lost touch over the years and slash your homeland. I'm just curious. Where are you from from the Philippines and The girl was dating the girl I was dating. She's of Jamaican descent and I should be attending University of Virginia. Okay well a few things here. First of all I know, sometimes, people will say Oh, you guys a high school. It's puppy love, but there is you know definitely nothing wrong with you feeling heartbroken. Do you have any like physical chest pains? You know that happens. Sometimes people go through a break-up by really like I. Guess it was kind of like. Shops for me at first I was having like. You know like depression like symptoms like I can really focus properly you know like. I would lose focus. At times and I lost like interest in some activities, but I did get some help. Okay, you said you went to the this. Yeah, it through a traditional therapist. You Know Authority going to the gym. And I started. Having a more. Spend based Diet. Okay? Those positive things that you're doing for yourself to help you. Get through this heartbreak, 'cause. You don't want to lose sight of things that you need to do this positive for you and let me tell you something. It is perfectly normal to feel that way after a break up into this somebody, because clearly you know you cared about this person, and so I think what's important right now is to make sure that you're in touch with friends and family, and they know what they're going through, and that you express yourself in that they're supportive of you. Do you have good friends and family around you? Absolutely I keep my. And then another thing, do you still follow her and social media and you guys still keep in contact. No, no! We don't keep in contact, even friend. Learn social media. All right, so take your time I think it feels to me like you've been doing a great job with coping and understanding that you are going through something, and you're very aware self aware so it does just take time, and you know they do say that time heals all wounds, and that is the truth as the days go by. It feels like you've been feeling better about yourself, yes. And you know I KINDA WANNA start. Going in on relationships again because I feel like a more experience, you know I learned a lot for that and I felt like. You know like like you said like we were young. And you know trying out new things and you know sometimes when things go less. You kinda don't know how to handle it. She don't have any. You know coping mechanisms. That taught me a lot well. That's good and I think that's what we should take away from every relationship. Even if it doesn't work out, you should be. You should be learning from it so the in the next relationship you're in, you'll be even more experienced. You know better know yourself better. Know what you want in a partner. What you don't WanNa. Partner, so you know I. Think you're doing all the right and positive things. Jay All right, thank you, thank you so much. No Problem I. Wish you so much luck all right as me. Eight, hundred, five, eight, five one. Oh Five. Won't you relationship advice or any type of advice? Call now is the breakfast club? Real advice would enter League IT'S S. Morning everybody is DJ envy. The Ye shall I mean the guy. We are the breakfast club in the middle of ask Ye. Hello. WHO's this isn't? A Lisa question for Ye. pushing. Guys individually collectively, although SHARLA and. Cunning Angela. Question is yesterday. I found out about the march and he's saying. I lived in his employees about ten years and just moved. And I told my set for writing email and I'm like a personal. Than I, read did. I had an appointment. I was the margin. I feel so much effort into. Doing what I can. To make it page Omolo it back to her kids mccarter, please. and. And I just I wanted to. Because I don't WanNA physically. Like, maybe sometime or And if you WANNA have that conversation because I went from Houston, working with all black people are be his all black women as A difference duty and I'm the only black woman in the office and I do want to have that conversation. I just don't really know. Okay. This is what I would recommend so number one. You said you had an appointment and you did so. You didn't lie about that. You had an appointment. You went to the rally and absolutely nothing wrong with that and the state of what we're in right now. They had discussions about these things at work being that you're the only black person. No, we have not I mean we've had. About outrageous, but obviously know what's going on. Do. You feel your bus is open to. Having these discussions I do I just feel like they that she is. Okay, so I think a positive way to produce this. Just because nothing's been done wrong, here is for you to actually schedule an appointment to talk to her and let her know look. This has been weighing heavy on me. No, this is my people in my community and we are being affected so I think this is a great time for us to Take the opportunity to have these discussions. Even if they're uncomfortable discussions in the office and we I would love for us to schedule some time to do that and I can't imagine that she would say noticed something like that and I think that you could be a great catalyst for that in the office. I think I I I need to schedule an appointment, but I can definitely do that. Yeah, so I think that's really really dope and another discussion you need to have is about diversity in your office. Just because you are the only black person, and that seems like that could be an issue as well and you know I think we may have. To notify person so I'm not sure she didn't quite saying. Looting to it. Is So I think they're open, but I do want to have that open conversation. As well in now is the time to doing at least. How is the rally? It was great it was. The free energy brought my cousin law. She brought her sister A. It was a lot of. Time, but the energy was great I got some exercise. So! Breaking up with sounds like it was much needed well so much left to you Lisa and. Good luck at work today I feel like this is going to be a positive discussion for you to have in the office I hope so. Ask Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five one. If you need relationship, advice any type of advice, you could hit year anytime that we got one was on the way. Yes am I going to give you an update from. From earlier, we were talking about this show. Kimberly and Beck and that show is an Iheart show, or should I say was and they said some very nasty and racist things yesterday, and so we are going to address what they said. And then what was the repercussions from that all right? We'll get into that next. Keeping locked this the breakfast club good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is the rule of war. With Angelique. Now we were telling you about this show and Rochester New York Kimberly and back their radio show hosts. They also were part of Iheartradio, and apparently they have been fired or ready, according to the president of the upstate. New York market. Iheartmedia Robert de Morgan, he said we made the decision to terminate Kimberly, and Mbeki yesterday as soon as we learned of their comments and inform them early this morning we will not tolerate this kind of behavior, which is I can't say this way right antithetical to our core values and beliefs into our commitment to our community and everyone in it, so here was discussion that they had after the attack of a local cup of following the black lives matter protests in downtown, Rochester. Were they acting and word ish. There's request. They were acting thuggery like I think they're shing n Word Lee. And by the way you can't say Thad. That's part of the problem noticed. Thugs, if you look like a saga, if you act like a dog, and you got three on one and beaten up a white woman with two by four by God. YOU'RE A thug. And by the way there are people in the black community would say they're acting and work, but they can see that you can't say that it's double standard. I was GONNA. Say I don't appreciate the double standard. Oh, Kimberly. What you get for being white devil. That's what you get for. Cracker being being crackly. I did just now I. don't care how much you've heard to Chris Rock n words versus Black People. Joke or how much you've heard Uncle Ruckus. Heavy negatively at work You can't say that Kimberly. In the proper context, and that is also another reminder of why DJ. Envy when we first started the breakfast club putting his contract that he can't get fight over anything that I think that is definitely true. Five Kimberly and Beck. He was a defendant. User was the one that was trying to tell them. Yeah can't say that and I was. Back Oh go talk, show producer. Now let me just say. This. I would assume does. For whatever new show is coming so at least they are always remember. They got fired on blackout Tuesday. Though so, that's dope. Bombs for God I like that. Why G has also shared his new protests anthem f the police now. We can't play the hook, but we can't play this verse both. That's how I feel like for. Part of the. STRAT plus. All these tears. I think he'll. Stay Gum here. We kill been up. In the. Got They own them as soon as the. Police already heavy. Chest. Asked. Pass, fans man, dropping the Kuzbass Wozniacki with nobody say about why to one of my favorite new rapper. Since he came out why g gives busy, he maps. GMS, he does gray songs. Y G is a blessing to the coach I. Don't give a damn nobody I saw myself for somebody I was arguing with the other day telling me why Weiji was like. My! Forgot, who I was debating without the bean with somebody. You don't want any regular Negro conversation it was. Well. Prior to this is a great prior to to his collaborative. See Hustle DT. Donald Trump's zone know. I right now Leah Michelle had from Glee had to apologize, and she also lost her endorsement hellofresh, and that is for her past behavior. Now you know. She tweeted the other day in support of black lives, matter and things meant left she had said. That she was supporting. George Floyd in the black lives matter movement. That's when one of her glee co star Samantha Murray Wear Accused of tormenting her on the set of Glee. And she said that she doesn't remember ever making specific statements. You know that it was said that she said according to Samantha where she said that Lee Michelle said Ella Mayo. Remember when you made my first television gig living hell because I'll never forget I believe you told everyone that if you had. Had the opportunity you would ish and my wig. Amongst other traumatic microaggressions that made me question a career in Hollywood, so she was called out for her hypocrisy, and you know things just spiraled from there. A lot of people were talking about their own experiences now. Leah Michelle has apologized. She said what matters is that I clearly acted in ways which hurt other people one of the most important lessons of the last few weeks that we need to take the time to listen learn. Learn about other people's perspectives and any role. We have played or anything we can do to help address the injustices that they face. When I tweeted, the other day was meant to be a show of support. She said well I. Don't remember ever making this specific statement and I have never judged others by their background or color of their skin. That's not really the point. What matters is that? I, clearly acted in ways which hurt other people, so she did acknowledge it was her. Her privileged position and perspective that caused her to be perceived as insensitive or inappropriate at times all right now, following that bt founder Robert Johnson is calling for fourteen trillion dollars in reparations from slavery. oconee said he must send a signal to white Americans to acknowledge that damages are owed for the unequal playing field that has been created due to slavery. Here is what Rob Johnson said I am advance that the problems that we confront today can be solved, but it takes A. Bowl action and or thing trae thousand reparations for damages visit upon the ant. Airs of slaves is an appropriate statement um listen. Bob Now wrong nothing good gonNA come to America, and say the tone for the into slavery. So yes, America has to do that through legislation and reparations, the black community needs an economic justice package. America absolutely have the means to dedicate capital to the rebuilding of our communities, and that's just another step in the divine direction to dismantling white supremacy I mean they print on time. They printed up the money last time, so they can put up the money now. I talked the. Him this week we have Bob on tomorrow. Og Bob Johnson, GonNa go. He's GonNa. Pull up on the breakfast club via zoom why you wrapping yourself up in a towel like that. Because I'm calling. It was called in my basement for some reason this morning. Manley and that is your. You. All wrapped up in awe man, I forgot. happening. Old Lady Look like my mom was on the couch. United Costa so you've got to get the little blanket got the blame. Game I should've I should've put on my sweatpants I got on my little short shorts. The ones that's right above the knee. Lupus, you've got a little boom booms. Oh my goodness gracious. Cold. What's? It what is wrong with you, Bro? We don't need to see all that man. Your, what would you? All right, thank you. Ye shall to revolt. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else. The People's choice mixes up next south to my babies. They just woke up. Happy Birthday. We sell a little carnival theme at the crypt him today with junkies in the house and all that because I mean they. They can't have their friends over. They're not going to school so happy. Birthday to Lundy Jackie's birthday is Friday all right well. The mix up next to SCO to breakfast on. The. Breakfast Club your mornings on. Now would be to say. If, even underarm skin tone is holding you back. Dove can help co created with real women dove even tone antiperspirant helps restore underarm skin to its natural tone while providing forty eight hours, sweat and odor protection. Throw your arms up and show off those underarms. Putting everybody stj, Envy Angela Yee. Scholem guy we all the breakfast club. Shout the Kirk Franklin for joining us. Yes, that was A. G Kirk, Franklin strong it was. No in about I would say maybe about seventy percent sixty percent him up parties when I do I play correctly revolution. I don't plan in Shoe Club. Though but I do play it in and went when people are partying. Do definitely play I. Don't play the script slow. I, don't know I just doesn't it? Doesn't make. This jeopardize. The did. I bought my Bible into the Strip club one in Columbia South Carolina. Took my Bible in there. Actually resorted West. Well. I didn't record it. Somebody who recording me we. I took it in just a few I feel the word. I'm sure did not want renting from them that paper I'm. Census yet. Painted dissentient long-term. Sure 'cause some people still haven't done and you still can. I am asking you. We did a couple of months ago. I was posting from a Vet Clark and in flatbush where I'm from only sixty five percent of the people. They are filled out the census so I. Just want to encourage people who have not yet filled out their senses. Please make sure you do. All right well. When we come back, we got the positive notice. The breakfast club good morning. Morning everybody. Is Dj Envy Angela Yee Shaw Amina Guy? We are the breakfast club now Charlemagne. Yes indeed senior on CNN last night to to tell you. You own a CNN. Always when people you hold your own, I'm like always hold his own. Anderson Cooper show last night with David Axelrod if you know who David axelrod is, he was the former senior adviser to President Barack Obama and we were talking about Joe Biden speech in Philadelphia and what Joe Biden needed to do moving forward to win the election in November and you know my answers because I've been screaming. My aunt is on Newsradio for the past few months. He has to bet on blackness and David axelrod absolutely agree. Yeah absolutely well. You've got a positive for the people. I do man. This comes out of my black pearls book. have a book called Black Pearls. It's Daily Meditations, affirmations and inspirations for African Americans and today's. Affirmation is encouragement. We can rarely expect ourselves and others the fall in line at a command well we can do is encourage motivate and allow opportunities for the spirit to flourish. We need to show our children. The world's possibilities, giving them the chance to become aware and excited about their own talents and interests. We need to give our loved ones, time space and emotional support, so they can get in touch with their passions. Excitement is contagious. Commands are drag so on this day pledged to encourage and support friends and other black folks in their endeavors prevalent club. Finisher, young. Casey I'm sorry. Put staying on top of the news. Every Single Day during these times has been really hard. I wish there was an easy way to get everything I need to know. Hayes I. 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Why Loneliness Is A Public Health Issue with Dr. Vivek Murthy
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So let's get back to this week's episode. Today's episode was recorded before the world. Health declared the corona virus outbreak a pandemic and before stayed home orders were issued across the United States. As many of us are social distancing and separate from one another. I think you'll find this conversation more important than ever and remember the just because we're separated doesn't mean we can't stay connected connecting with family and friends over video or phone calls has been really meaningful to me during this time and can make a huge difference for mental health even with just five or ten minutes a day now onto my conversation with former surgeon. General Vivek Murthy. Welcome the Doctors Pharmacy. I'm Dr Mark Hyman and that's pharmacy with an F. F. A. R. MAC place conversations that matter and if you've ever suffered loneliness or felt isolated or disconnected in your life this conversation's going to matter to you because we have extraordinary guest today. A former surgeon general United States. Dr Vivek Murthy who I've known for a number of years who actually invited me to come to me with him when he was surgeon. General and talk about the issues of food and obesity and nutrition disease and he's just always so attentive and connected. It came to Cleveland Clinic to talk about the OPIOID epidemic and I tried to get the leadership there to do what he did in the surgeon. General's office would just to get the entire clinic. Meditating every day at three o'clock in the afternoon the chief of staff was a little confused when I said that. I think it's a really what we all need to be doing. I usually sneak off in my little room in my office. And just try to do meditation the afternoon when I'm there but he's he's an extraordinary leader in medicine in public health and his new book together. The healing power of human connection in sometimes lonely. We're older I would probably have tight and often lonely world is really an extraordinary contribution to our understanding of what creates so much suffering and ease and actually disease because if you're looking at the causes the root causes of chronic illness it's often related not just to food which is my lane but to loneliness and People don't understand that that's actually a big driver of so much and we're going to talk about that he Dr Murphy is Shorter guy he was the vice admiral the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps where he commanded a uniformed service of sixty six hundred public health officers. Globally he launched the turn the tide campaign which was to help our nation's health care providers focus on our opioid epidemic. I it was. He was a key leader addressing that crisis while he was surgeon. General issued the first surgeon general's report on Alcohol Drugs and health calling for expanded access to prevention and treatment and recognizing addiction as a chronic disease. Not a character. Flaw which many people still think it is and stigmatize it He's then focused from two thousand seventeen his attention on chronic stress and loneliness as huge problems that affect our health our productivity and our happiness he co founded a number of organizations visions which was an HIV AIDS education programme in India. I'm not sure I'm saying this right. Swazi AH which is a community health partnership in rural India the trains women as health providers educators like barefoot doctors in China but for women I guess and he he helped build the grassroots organization doctors for America that was very involved in the election of President Obama and since he's left Sir General's office he's focused on loneliness and social connection is book together. The healing power of human connection in sometimes lonely world is out April. Twenty eight Harpercollins. He's just an extraordinary guy. He's his degree from Harvard. His MD and MBA from Yale he went to residency in Boston and was on the Harvard Medical School Factory. He's a very serious dude and good friend and I really am so happy to have you on the podcast. Welcome thank you so much mark. I feel embarrassed. Thank you. And he's only twenty five. Which is what's amazing. Are you forty yet? I got a lot of I. Forty two forty two so the best is yet to come. I have a feeling just getting started. I think we're you the youngest general ever in about a century or so the very first surgeon general in eighteen hundreds. It was younger than I was. Because nobody long back then right. So that's that's unbelievable one hundred years and then just speaks to your your character your intelligence your insights on this about some of the biggest things that are affecting our public health today and I. I'm just so glad you laser focused on this issue of loneliness because you know I've and the early part of my career. I focused on food as a big driver of chronic. Disease Instill what? I'm focusing on and functional medicine to take care of the individual. But I realized that I could not really get my patients better unless I deal with social issues that they're facing and begin to realize that there's another medicine that's just as powerful as food and that's love and social connection so I would say love. Is Medicine Food Medicine S? We're going to help the world and you really laser. Dan On the love is medicine through looking to lens of of loneliness. And and how? How did that all come about? I mean you. You basically are transitionally trained internal medicine doctor and it's nothing we really taught about in medical schools. Long how did you come to that? Well it's a good question you know. I think I hit experience. Loneliness a fair amount of my own life and you know when. I was a kid in school. I was very shy and I didn't. I had a hard time making friends in elementary school and day going to school and being dropped off by my parents. I had that pit in my stomach of nervousness and it wasn't because I was scared about exams or or or teachers. I was actually just worried I was going to be alone again and I just couldn't wait for the bell to ring at two thirty or three o'clock or whenever it was so that I can go back home and be where I felt really good. We had loving parents and an amazing sister and I felt very cared for taking care of at home so we certainly have presence in my life. Any cropped up other times during adulthood as well at transition points in my life and even during my time surgeon general and in the years afterward I also then started to see it in my patients and this is not something I expected it all because when I was in medical school and I suspect that you and many of us had the same experience. loneliness was all part of the curriculum emotional. Wellbeing was not cleanliness. On now this is not part of that matter. Neither was nutrition. I still remember our nutrition. Education in medical school was one class once a week in the evenings that was optional Like six weeks like vitamin deficiency diseases like rickets scurvy. There wasn't a whole lot of training. But certainly this subject of our emotional health and the power important to social connection. There was very little But when I started seeing patients a couple of things that struck me one is people would come in with with real serious illnesses and they would have. The illnesses are critical. Time in people's lives better make big decisions and they have to. They find themselves were reflecting on the rest of their life To see you know Gosh You know have I live the life I wanna live and those critical moments? You need people around you to help you figure out what path to take to support you and be there with you but so many of the patients alone and I remember I used to. Sometimes we're in the hospital by themselves. They were there by themselves and I would ask. Sometimes I'd say hey you know we. We've got to make a pretty difficult decision now on whether to go to surgery or not or whether to start chemotherapy or not is there. Somebody want us to call to come in so that we you can talk through with them as well and so often. The answer was no. There's so many to call. Wow even at the time of death mark. I noticed that on so many occasions that the only ones to witness people's last moments where myself and other doctors and nurses that was a medical stuff. And so he. I remember that quite vividly. Even despite all of that I was not planning to talk about loneliness or work on it when I was searching General because I didn't know if that was just my own experience the peculiarities of the of my medical experiences win. But what happened? That really changed. Things for me is when I began my time in office. I began with a listening tour traveled all of these cities and towns all across America with simple question. How can we help and I tried to? Just sit back and listen to what people said. And what they said was fascinating. Because I did hear stories. I expected about addiction about obesity about depression and anxiety. Thing What. I didn't expect to hear that within those stories where these threads of loneliness and people wouldn't say you know. Hi I'm mark. I'm lonely but they would say things like this. They would say I feel invisible. I feel like we're struggling all alone. Here I feel like people have forgotten about us. I feel like people. Just don't even see us and if we died no one would even know it. People would say things like that quite often and it led me to realize over time as I heard more and more of those stories from everyone from farmers in rural areas two moms and dads in big cities and members of Congress. I start to realize that not only is loneliness far more common than you were hearing this members of Congress. Oh yeah and they wouldn't say it publicly but interestingly behind closed doors they would say yeah you know. This has been a struggle for us. I had one member of Congress. In fact tell me he said if you're going to build a campaign just only could you start with Congress. I because we're doing but the truth is I realized nobody was spared that that we people were either affected directly or through the people they loved and that all of us at some level in modern society are vulnerable to losing our connections So it's so intense I think that You know we're really wired as social beings. 'cause a human being by him or herself in the world is usually dead. Historically if you didn't have a tribe or group the helped you navigate survive the world. You would just die and yet something's changed in the last hundred plus years and you sort of say it's really different in this modern day. Loneliness is different than anything that has happened in other generations. And how how does it actually affect us? I mean what does the science behind mowing this effect on our health and our our longevity and what do we know about that well? It starts with with what you just touched. On understanding how loneliness impacts our body starts with how thousands of years ago and we over time evolved to really need each other so thousands of years ago when we were hunter gatherers. There was safety in numbers. So if you had a trusted group of people that you are with you could take turns keeping watching night To make sure that they weren't predators that attack. You could also pool your food so that you had a stable food supply over time instead of starving for many days at a time you can also do other things like helping in child rearing so you could be. People did take care of each other and share the responsibilities. Which can be quite taxing. If it's just you alone managing a growing family and so we over time came to depend on other people for our safety so much. So that when we were separated from the tribe when we were actively more risk than of starvation or being pursued by a Predator it put us in his trusty And in some ways. That's actually a very healthy response. Is that stress state would raise our threat level and focus inward and push us to quickly get back to the tribe as quickly as possible. Yuck and that's an in a sense. What loneliness is like like loneliness like hunger? Thirst is a signal that our bodies ending. We're lacking something that we need for survival. If we react quickly to that and fill the gap you know with social connection healthy social connection in their life than feeling goes away. And we're and we're okay The problem though is when that state of threat which is effectively a physiological stress state persists for a long period of time. Like we know that stresses not good for us we went in. But it's only in the case of it being there for a long period of time or an excessive amount redemptive in a small small amounts can actually be quite good like before we give a big speech we're taking exam Were you know take on any big tasks or go out on a date that we're really excited about. We might feel some stress and then my push us perform better and to actually bring out the best in ourselves. When we're chronically stressed that actually is when our body starts to break down that's when we have elevated levels of cortisol and other stress hormones flowing in our body we have increased levels of inflammation and that over time damages tissues blood vessels and Lisa higher rates of heart disease and other illnesses and so- loneliness when it's chronic when its longstanding puts us in a chronic stress state. And it's from that that we see so many of the negative consequences other practical implications who are health of not having connections some of the day-to-day helped. We might need going to the doctor. Taking your medicines having someone to remind us and inspire us to eat healthily or to go and work out of a reason for right to have a reason for living we may miss out on these things too. So are the healthiness of our lifestyle deteriorate as well But we see overall as and when you look at the data at the impact of wellness on our health. What you find is that loneliness is associated with a reduction in our lifespan and that mortality impact is similar to the mortality impact of smoking. Fifteen cigarettes a day. It's a greater than the mortality impact of sedentary living and obesity. I think is surgeon general. How much time I spent on those three issues on smoking. Obesity and physical activity compared to how much I spent on lonely. There was no comparison. Way We gotta stop because what you just said was was remarkable that loneliness is a bigger risk factor for shorten lifespan and smoking obesity. Relax of exercise. Well it seems to be just like headline news. It seems to be just as powerful as smoking. Fifteen cigarettes a day and and even greater than the impact of obesity which is pretty. I mean. Smoking is pretty deadly. So this is something. That's not talked about something that we don't I mean I'm I'm in a big healthcare system. We talked about the office of experience and improve patients and doctors experienced this issue of loneliness. Being risk factor. I just it just not in our training in. It's not in our even approach as a culture to figure out how to solve some big issues like depression and the opioid epidemic. And you know why people eat. You know it's not only about what people eat. It's y e you know right often say you know you don't have to focus on what reading what's eating you and. I think people don't understand that connection and I I think the question is you know what's happened to our society that's led to this and how do get it back to a place where we do have connection and not social media which actually to more isolation more disconnection more separation feelings of isolation you see you know the the instagram models and this and that it's just it makes you feel bad about yourself. It's not really true. Social Connection Pick one thing you said even earlier also and then I'll get to what's driving this but something setting is really important. Which is we weren't really trained to think about this or to recognize how important it was. And I think part of the challenge is that we don't see loneliness around us very much and there are two tests. Loneliness is in your right but also even if we just think about the people in our lives. We may not recognize loneliness. Is that common? But there are two big reasons for that. One is because there's a huge stigma around eight. Yeah there's a sense of shame that people have because they feel like if they see that I'm lonely that's like saying I'm not likeable or I'm not loveable. Desirable Yeah It's like saying I'm a loser. Nobody wants to feel that way. I certainly didn't when I was younger and felt lonely. I didn't never told anyone about that. But the there's another reason that loneliness is hard to see. And that's because we stereotypically might think of loneliness is the person who's sitting in the corner at a party and not interacting with anyone but that would me as a kid. Yeah Party so is true. But but the other reason we don't see it is because it looks like other things so loneliness can look like depression and again look like anxiety It can often lead to addiction or increase risk for addiction in fact that founder of a one of the most interesting things. I found that he said is that loneliness. He felt was at the root cause of so many people's struggles with alcoholism and needed to be addressed in order for them to get into and stay in recovery. And that is something I found. Also looking at the OPIOID epidemic. There's a reason that the opioid epidemic has been labeled Part of the larger group of illnesses called deaths of despair because it is often a sense of hopelessness and isolation that can lead people to experience emotional pain and human beings. Once we experience emotional pain we will seek to relieve that pain and the question. Those moments is. What are we reaching for? So are we reaching for alcohol really reaching for drugs? Are we reaching for Food Right? Are we reaching for exercise? People work out when they feel stressed during pain. That helps them. Are we reaching for work? Some people drowned themselves in work. When the stresses of their personal army right and this is the thing is that there are socially acceptable ways to sometimes feel with your pain even though it hurts in the long run and alcohol I think and work are two examples of those but for those reasons. When you look around you you might think. Oh maybe I don't know that many people are lonely but I will tell you that this statistics backup the fact that a very large number of people that we know are likely struggling with loneliness if you look at the conservative numbers Will you'll find. Is that probably somewhere around? Twenty to twenty two percent of adults in the United States are struggling with loneliness. Those are the lower numbers. Plenty of other studies Including one recently by Cigna the health insur which is pegged those numbers significantly higher and it's not just the US percent well in this study the most. Recently they found that it's in the sixties more than sixty percents of adults who actually they're struggling with loneliness now. This is either because loneliness maybe increasing. Maybe people are just more comfortable now. Starting to admit that they're struggling with loneliness. Maybe studies getting better. Who knows what the reasons are and it could be potentially all of those but the point is that we are talking about more people who struggle with loneliness and have diabetes in the United States. More people struggling with loneliness than adults who smoke In the United States. So this is both comment And it's also consequential for our help that is invisible and it's invisible invisible and you talk about how in your book together. The healing power of human connection in a sometimes only world which I encourage everyone to get a copy of whether you're lonely or not because likely you know someone is unlikely things in this book going to help you get more connected things that matter in your life and also help you engage with your community different ways to build love and connection. Which is what this is all about. So you talk about in the book. How loneliness also has an impact on the individual but you know in a broader context that affects our kids ability to function learning school. It affects productivity in the workplace in effectiveness on a on a sort of commercial level of competitiveness. It affects this incredible polarization division of versus. You Know I. I remember hearing this Guy Peter. Orangeade coup was budget director under Obama. Talk at Cleveland Clinic about the voting in Congress and in the sixties you know you could see a sort of a cloud of votes Republicans Democrats. It was all mixed. It was a big Ben Diagram where there was tons of overlap and voting across party lines and then he showed a graph now and it was complete separation. And we're seeing that mirrored like I've never seen before in history in terms of lack of ability for our government to function but then it's spreading out in terms of divisiveness and conflict among all kinds of groups racial groups In and all these different divisions in society that are really I think crippling our ability to actually have a great society and so can you talk more about how loneliness is driving some of these trends and what we can do about it. Yeah I this is one of the reasons that I wanted to focus on this issue because when I came out of Government when I finished my daytime Surgeon General. I I found myself thinking about all the different issues. We touched on from the OPIOID epidemic violence to eat cigarettes. You name it and you Bola Sika richer. Glad you know having to do with corona virus right now so frightening difficult very difficult and disturbing situation right now. I think it's only going to get worse before it gets better. But what are the things I wanted to do is I wanted to ask myself the question. What's at the root cause of many of these deeper issues And can I do something to make a small contribution to addressing that deeper root cause and when I kept coming back to again and again guided both by the conversations I had with people around the country and the science that I was reading? Was it our connection with each other is actually one of the most powerful and important resources that we have not just for our health but it affects our performance in the world in school in the workplace that impacts where we talked to each other or not in communities and even has an impact on our politics. And that's why I wanted to work on this. And here's why how it affects us. You know if we can't when we are connected to each other are threat. Levels are lower levels of stress are Lewin when we are lonely it increases our threat level. Actually shifts are focused internally towards ourselves. Because if you're in a threats that you wanNA focus on yourself for your safety and survival but it's hard to optimize our output and it's hard to be the best person we can be and bring our full self to the task if you will if we're in a constant state of stress and we're so focused on ourselves we're missing what's happening in the outside world you can see that playing out in the workplaces and schools and an in. Congress as well absolutely and you can see what a price we pay as a society because the political dysfunction impacts us all but also when people aren't happy in the workplace that impacts productivity and retention impacts creativity in the workplace that impacts a you know a businesses and organizations bottom line but in schools with concerns memo's especially as a dad who has two young kids are three and two Is I think about what experience they're going to have in school and I asked myself. Well is the job as school to teach people how to read write and do arithmetic or is it also to teach kids how to build a foundation for healthy life and other ways including in terms of their social and emotional wellbeing readings school? That are the most important things in life. How healthy relationships how to take care of your health and how to manage your money. That's right so these things these are the foundations that matter. And when we don't have in one of these key important foundations what we realize. Is that everything else we build on. It is built on Shaky Foundation and I realized that when we have strong relationships in our lives we are better. We are better at work. We're better at play. Were better in terms of our health. Were better in terms in our relationships and we bring to our family into our friends when we don't we feel lonely. All of those things are more fragile and they're more likely to to collapse on US and so that's why away. When I thought about this issue I felt like if we can try. We can make a shift as a society from being one that is focused on wealth reputation and power to one that is focused on people and we can truly create a people centered life and people centered society. Then I think we can capture the great power of social connection and experience the joys and the benefits that it has to bring to our health and ultimately to all of our lives. And there's good data on this. It's not just like a warm and fuzzy touchy-feely thing to sort of help in low income people are connected to each other. There's actually a data on how much difference it makes in overall society and the success of our country that successive of our citizens health health of them. All all the things that really we care about are centered around this issue and your book is called alone is called together and the reason is because in the he'd tell some amazing stories about people who saw this in their communities and are trying to break through this incredible sort of edifice of loneliness. It's around so many so many people so he tells a little bit about some of the hopeful stories and some of the things that absolutely you know because it's kind of depressing. We're lonely lonely. Ruining everything which is true. How do we get out of it? One of the stories that you can share about how that's happening. Yes I to me. This is actually a deeply inspiring topic for exactly that reason because there are so many stories that we don't read about hear about in the papers every day but if people who in their own lives are building connection and building community and helping to create. I think we all want but the other thing. That's fascinating about it to me. Is that in building connected? Life does not require us to purchase expensive medicines and does not require us to have special medical equipment. Doesn't require fancy inexpensive programs. It only requires what we already have inside of us Which is our desire and our ability to give and receive love with each other. I remember being at the at the White House. For an event Durr when we were working at the OPIOID epidemic and I was facilitating a conversation. with a group of people about the epidemic and what was driving it. And he's in that moment. I remember sitting on that stage where it struck me that we were talking about medication. Therapy and counseling and all of the other things that we need to put in place to help people struggling with opioid use disorder and is struck me in that moment that with so many people That I met on the road felt like they were lacking where relationships and at the heart of those relationships and communities were love and I really do believe that love is the oldest medicine that we have and medicine it is it is and of all the medicines I prescribe in you. Prescribe and so. Many doctors prescribe in the hospitals to treat our patients. Those are important. Those are good but they're few things that come close to. The power of genuine human relationships can do and those are powered by love and some of the stories that I came across where really fascinating this regard. I came across A mayor Tom Tate From Anaheim California Who is the last person you would think of as leading a social movement in his community? Because he's a self-described introvert really didn't like to hang out with other people very much and also was deathly afraid of public. Speaking right so what ended up happening is is by accident of life. He was appointed to serve an on the city council because there was a vacancy and the mayor knew him and appointed him so he took that on found he enjoyed. It actually joined toastmasters club to get more comfortable with Public. Speaking really worth a lot of issues and then ran for city council again and then era the the mayor's seat opened up and he thought you know maybe maybe. I should run for mayor because was really interesting. Is he had been. He'd been seeing these signs around town these posters Which had talked about which we're posters about kindness instead. Be Kind until we talked about the importance of kindness. But there was no name stand below at there's no sponsoring organization there's no U. R. L. To go to to learn more it was literally just a poster with the message of kindness and he kept thinking to himself. This feels right. This feels like we'll our community needs. We need more kindness. That's the glue that holds us together and without that all these programs that were funding and structuring etc. Well intended as they are are not going to work as well if people aren't connected to each other and invested in each other so he decided to run for mayor on a platform of making. Anaheim city of kindness. Wow and he was scared about this. He thought I'm going to get laughed out of town. People are GonNA think I'm not a serious candidate. I mean he made fun of for being soft. My political platform is kindness. How about that Exactly what he found when he got up to announce his candidacy and to say that he is goal was to make Anaheim kinder city he saw heads nodding in the audience of people murmuring approval and he realized that so many of us even though we may not lead with it. We want more kindness. One love we want more connection in their lives and in our communities so he eventually won that race he became the mayor of Anaheim. He created all of these programs from neighborhood programs to get neighbors to connect more deeply with each other to a one million acts one million acts of kindness program in the school system to get the schools students throughout Anaheim to con to basically engage in random acts of kindness and then to come together and share those experiences and talking to him was such a beautiful experience. Because I came to see that through this focus on kindness. The what he did which is incredibly powerful as he didn't just set up a new program. He Changed Culture in the city and when change culture which are the values ideas that means a hole to be important then you have a huge ripple effect on not just the programs they support but on how they live their lives and that's what he saw throughout Anaheim. That's incredible and something you can't legislate you have to create the structures to do that. I think I I Sort of had a very similar inside to you. Is that the cause of so much of our disease and disease is disconnection and And through my work in Haiti with Paul farmer looking at what he did to treat infectious disease using community health workers essentially neighbors and peers and friends to help each other through making sure. They took their medications and they knew what to do. And we're we're helping each other be accountable. He produce a program. It was more effective anything else to public health committee in the world ever seen and spread across the world. And I kind of realized that it's not just infectious disease is contagious. It's chronic illness which affects out of ten of us and as you know is sort of driving our economy into the ground and his burning so many people in pre so much suffering in a lot of the reason for like you said is is the disconnection that drives people to behaviors and into things. That actually aren't good for them. Food or whatever and then he worked with Brick Warren to create the plan which with with Dr Ayman which was a faith based wellness program but it was founded on the idea of small groups that were the infrastructure church that we just put the information and they were able to help each other. Get better that getting helping basically a team sport. And we've taken out at Cleveland Clinic and Secular Way It's not a faith based program we now Are the top in our small center for functional. Medicine has ten doctors. Is the number one in group visits in the entire organization and the next biggest group down from US has about four hundred doctors and we have like ten and we and the reason is I i. I was very vocal about making sure that we we actually did this. Because this is how people change. And we see that people will have a longing to belong to connected and and that's how they make meaning otherwise that's how they get motivated to do anything and that's really missing from our culture and society. How do you You Know How how do you? How do you see that that we can spread this further? How do you? How do you take the ideas and your book and make them sort of something? We spread nationally and even globally Well I think there are a couple of things we can do. I think I by recognizing how common loneliness is but also recognizing the power of human connection. Elevate our health. Our performance and our wellbeing. I think that first step Can help us to rethink our priorities. Both are individual parties. Where we're putting our time but also organizationally like where as workplaces in schools and government where allocating resources the second thing is. I think we can think about what steps we can take in our individual life to actually create more connection. The truth is whether you're feeling lonely right now or whether you're not you undoubtedly know people who are lonely and all of us are at risk of loneliness at various points in our lives. Loneliness isn't something you're born with affects your entire life we go through natural periods of connection and disconnection in our life And the question is how do we prepare for that? How do we deal with it? How do we build a strong foundation of connection to to begin with so there a couple of things in the in the book that I go through that are I believe helpful in building that connected life? One of them unexpectedly a service. It turns out that when we serve others we actually break some of these very negative patterns of loneliness that get basically launched within us as a part of our evolutionary history those patterns being the focus on self and also the elevated threat level that we experience when we're lonely because when you help somebody else first of all that takes you away from a focus on yourself when you're focusing on on another person but the second thing is it's also disarming like when you're helping other people you're also reminded of what value have to offer to the world and that's actually reassuring that lowers your your sense of So service is a powerful way to connect with others and also to reconnect in a sense with ourselves our own sense of self worth and value the second thing that they can help us on an individual level. He said think about where we're spending our time when it comes to social relationships so number one. Are we making sure that we have at least five to ten minutes a day that we're spending with people we love? That could be spending in person. It could be speaking to them a phone. We know or through video conferencing but are we spending five to ten minutes with some that. We love every day and this might seem very simple. You'd be surprised how many people can go for days without having a meaningful conversation with somebody. The third thing with the controversy reminding when my wife we have because life's busy crazy running around. We have a a little ritual called. What's up below which is just chit chatting about the logistics for life of overdoing that day but sit down with each other with having coffee in the morning or at the end of the day and it can be five minutes or can be. We can go for a half an hour. But it's what's up below zero service and we go in and we just listened to each other and we get each other like what's happening in your world. What do you care about what's upsetting you? It's thrilling you. What's whatever going on and it's just great such deep powerful moment of like being seen and seeing somebody else like every it just it. Just it's so powerful and we don't do that and you can do that with a friend you can do that with you know. I do that with my children I do. It's it's a very powerful simple thing of just say dropping into place below the surface level of life that we all do it all the time. Yeah that's such a beautiful example and what I love about that is mark. I imagine with you and your wife. You could easily get caught up in the logistics of life and spend that ten minutes talking about your calendars and your schedules and get groceries. Who's GonNa get the car fixed and nightfall into that with my wife because there are a lot of logistics in life we gotta work through but even just that five minutes can make an extraordinary impact and that comes down to also another point about the quality of time? He's been so you know technology's really interesting. We can have a conversation about technology and how it's impacted our connection with one another but one of the things that I think that many of us do now And I certainly guilty of this is we have allowed technology particularly our phones to dilute the quality of our interactions. The other people because we bring our phones off into the dinner table and we might convince yourself. Hey I'm not really paying attention to it. I've got an unsilent. Put it face down I'm not really paying attention to it but we actually know from studies that when there's a phone even within sight young even if it's on vibrate and face down it actually changes how people feel about the conversation in a negative way and so the restaurant called hearth which is in New York City and they have a box on every table. Please open me and you open it up and said he has an invitation to put your phones and the ox and as a game. I play my friends who are really has to put their phone box. The first person to take it out pays the bill so simple fun things you can do that actually help you. Stay more connected. I love that absolutely. That's a great idea. Just like that I think there. Are you know in the book but I will try to do. Is I try to share some stories that lay out some individual steps we can take our lives but also the stories that talk about what schools and workplaces can do an are doing already in some cases to create a culture of connection Because at the end of the day mark like if we want to create real connection if we want to build a people centered life and people center society. It's going to involve more than programs. It's GONNA require us to shift. Culture meant to ask ourselves. What's really important now? If we got one group of one hundred people together on any street corner in America my guess is if you ask them to name their top three priorities. The people would be at the top of that list. People might say it's my daughter or my son or my my mom or my dad but if you look at how they behave how where we put our time and energy and ware. Frankly society nudges us to cement her time and energy and it's not usually with the people we love most. It's in investing in places where we can acquire greater power reputation and well than traditional marks of achievement in modern society. I'm not saying that those aren't important. Organization be pursued. It's a question of where are the priority list and your facebook feed or instagram. Feed or your email or write with those feats in particular like I think about like our childhood and about their childhood that my kids will be experiencing and in modern childhood. I think the messages the cultural messages about what matters are just coming at you at thousand times faster and I meet so many young people who are feeling because of this culture of comparison on social media that they are not been enough that they're not good looking enough that they're not popular enough or funny enough that ultimately that they're not enough and that has actually very powerful in insidious effect on our connection with other people And this is one of the things that is not often well. Appreciated which is at our connection to other people is ultimately built on having a strong connection to ourself. Now what does it mean to have? A strong connection herself means to know that we have a sense of worth and value. It means to recognize that we are human beings who have something meaningful to add to the world and that requires a combination of self knowledge and self compassion now. How do we develop self-knowledge? Well we develop it partly by living life but not only living life by having time to reflect and time to think and much of that white space in our life that many people use to ponder and reflect on things on that has disappeared. It's evaporated as now in five minutes you'll have between events or when you're waiting at the bus off. We can just let her devices and look at the news their gender inbox but ultimately if our if we are not able to support particularly among our kids. I- healthy sense of self if we're not able to convey to them and help them understand what it is that makes them worthy invaluable and that it's not what they're wearing or how much money their parents have in their pockets or how popular they are on what parties are getting invited to. Then we are going to run into a situation where people feel less and less adequate and then they will trust seek to be the people that they think other people want them to be. And when we do that. That's a recipe for loneliness when we try to be something we're not We can't inhabit our own skin. People feel lonely. That's why workplaces often struggled with loneliness because for years we've told people that you know don't bring feelings to the workplace and check all of that at the door and you're not here to make friends you're here to to get work done and keep your friendships in your personal life outside and the truth is not a natural way of living. You know we don't operate like that is human beings and we have to be somebody that we're not in the workplace that increases our likelihood of being lonely. They're too yes true. I mean we we. We certainly a trained as doctors to not emotionally connect with our patients right and I fought that from day one and when you sit and really get someone and you listen to them and what matters and what they care about and you really present with them. It's just so powerful healing. Forget any other medicine right. I think that's that's one of the real gifts and I just want to come back to the whole service concept because I don't know if people I understand what that means when we look at how we're designed There is a sort of altruism gene. Then we have e o Wilson Talks about the social conquest of the Earth is book that we cannot survive in isolation and that we're hard wired to support each other help each other connect with each other an eight each other and the biology of. It's very fascinating. When you look at the areas of the brain that gets stimulated by altruism or service or helping others It actually is the same area of the brain that gets activated with heroin or cocaine or sugar and I remember going to Haiti and You know it was just. It was just a awful horrible scene with three hundred thousand people. Dead three thousand wounded. I mean the military who was eighty second airborne said they never seen anything like this in their entire careers in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And we're in the middle of it but I was working twenty hours a day and it was. It was horrible conditions. No food or water is really tough and I was really happy in this weird way because I was just serving I was helping. I was serving. It wasn't for me it wasn't for my ego was in for anything my bank account. I was volunteering and it was. I felt most connected and most so filled so it really mattered. And and I really think you know. We need to have a society where we are helping each other in an art connecting with each other and and it doesn't require anything other than to look around. Unc WHO's in need or you know what needs to get done in your community and trying to be that person who can be service because it will not only help you with their own emotional physical and mental health. But it's going to create a culture like you said of kindness and love and that's what we need in America today around the world globally because we're sort of the opposite way and I think that's why your book is so critical and Anchorage copy of together. The healing power of human connection sometimes only world because if all of us took this book and implemented in our own lives in our workplace in our schools in our families and communities. I think this country would turn around fast. I certainly hope so. That's that's my dream that we will together be able to build a more connected and more fulfilled society and what are the. What are the challenges? Some people have to actually doing this in their life because it sounds like everybody would wanna do this but how how. How do people those obstacles? It's a great question. I think there are few key obstacles that come number one. Sometimes people feel that focusing on connections in their own. Life is somehow self-indulgent That they should be focusing on doing more work. I'm getting that promotion on building up their bank account on taking their kids to activities busy parents. I think are very interesting because I think a lot of them struggled with loneliness especially in the early years When their kids are one two three four years old before they're in school You know it can be very all consuming as a parent to to really take care of your children and isolates you from others. But I think if this that somehow investing in our connections is a luxury that itself on Delta and I think one of the reasons why people don't do it more I think the second reason is that again. There's a of shame that people have and even admitting to others that they need some more human contact with. They need some time with their friends. They don't WanNa seem desperate or needy or somehow you know again not likeable or or can outcasts in some way so people have a hard time not just acknowledging to other people even acknowledging it to themselves and I think the last things is a structural issue as well which is if you look at how our lives are designed with paying spending so many hours at work and many people have to commute any of those hours is. There's a question of of time that comes up which is where. Where am I gonNA find the time to go and interact with other people and to take a vacation with my best friends which I haven't done a long time or to finally make time to go away with my spouse you know for a weekend and those questions feel really burdensome? I mean you'd think if you'll really tiring when you think about God so hard. Let me just keep going with life. But this is where I think it's so powerful and important to recognize that the dividends at come from just a small amount of time spent in connection can last for hours days weeks or even longer. And that's why the the five or ten minutes that you spend with some of the you love can be really powerful. I'll tell you about something I did in my own life. That helped me Which is a I. I made a decision after residency training When I had just gone through several years of caring for incredibly sick people including people who were very young I remember being on the oncology service in half the patients I was taking care were all young people in their twenties who had gastric cancer other malignancies that were in their end stage and I remember the end of that thinking. God I just I need to think about my life and I don't know that could be me and am I spending my time the way I wanna be spending so I made a decision that I would make it a point to go home and visit my parents and my sister more often and that's when the frequency of my visits actually change A year or two I was actually out in Colorado For a fellowship retreat point where. I was struggling to figure out what I wanted to do with my life and was also kind of isolated you know. It was in the throes of Early parenthood also and it was all consumed with care of our kids which was wonderful and such a blessing but really not having much in terms of relationships outside and I ran into these two friends there who I love and but where rarely ever see and we talked about how we wish we got together more often but we just don't and then moment I said why don't we do this. I said why don't we build them away together as Japanese term? Actually have a whole story about a my in the book. But it's an intentional community. So I said why. Don't we just say because we know we're not gonNA see each other? You know probably six nine months. Why don't we say that every month the we are going to get on Via conference together and that we're going to have to our conversation and let's also say that we're going to be real with each other than we're going to talk about the issues that we are struggling with the stuff that really matters to things like health and Finances and our relationships with family. People don't get into sticky stuff that we all are struggling with. And so we've been doing that for the last year and it's been so incredibly grotto healing so anyway. The point is that there are reasons to not connect but once we realized the power of even a small amount of time spent connecting with others once. We realized that. We don't need anything else to do that. We just need our intention and a willingness to show up to listen to be vulnerable and open With other people in our life then we can start building that road to were living truly connected life and I think that he's what holds the key to greater health and also get our folks true. Thank you for doing this writing this book. I think it's it's still Microsoft's with its five minutes a day whether it's finding some old friends and reconnecting like you did whether it's finding a place to be of service in your community you don't have to have some big giant community that you're building overnight but those micro steps make a huge difference and we'll help heal so much the suffering in the world so thank you for writing this book. I want everybody to get a copy. it's together the healing power of human connection. Sometimes only world. I can let you can learn more about to go as website which is a murky dot COM v. I v. e. k. m. U. R. T. H. Y. dot com for slash. 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251 She Podcasts Favorite Things 2019
"Hello everyone welcome but she podcast this episode. Oh to fifty one. Can you guys believe it. We have been here for turned fifty plus episodes now graduates this as we when he is always is my co host the lovely and graceful Elsie Lee Escobar and our producer. John Je Mingo from. What eight he. W I'm going by my rap. Name is funky Cold Jim. Ingo I love God funds Kolja. Mingo I'm digging. Yeah so elsie lesson we recorded. I was coughing like crazy. Okay and it has not gotten better. In fact I finished a steroid pack and nothing has changed in fact the night after that I coughed so hard that I threw up on the other night I thought I was going to break rip rip so I can't. I know you can't see me. I'm actually just living on the toilet in my pants so we're recording. I'm in my bathroom. Threw him on the toilet because I eat in here. I'm sleeping in here. I'm joking I'm not in the bathroom but you sound like you believe me but I did believe you because I can't see. 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She's having the same problem I thought it was because I gave birth when I was older. But she's like fifteen years younger than me. She's like same thing. I can't stop being hands every time. Aikoff I pee my pants. Wow so at least I know I'm not alone however I don't like smelling like a great grandmom. Oh my God. That's just disgusting gusting. I'm not sure I want to. I don't smell. I'm taking good care of my hygiene and everything and I. You know lots and lots of clothes. So so it's fine pretty adult diapers going to outsell baby diapers because baby boomers are the largest generation a stars. I know they should already be doing that. I mean I don't I don't know how old you have to be to be fully and cut like this is not normal and continents this is bronchitis and continents like I. I normally don't need assistance in this area so like I'm wondering though to women your age need constant assistance in this area like fifteen years from so now. I'm going to be peeing my pants while I walk on the street. Or what imagine if you sneeze Colfer lots now but I'm saying like fast now. panty liners kind of do the trick. But I'm wondering like in fifty. I'm fifty four. Oh God thirteen years from now be sixty holy shit. What I'm sixty? What will happen will I I just never like? Will I have to wear that. All the time does J. Lo J. LO having cotton is that is the question of the day. Thank you Elsie. You're welcome. Is she senior enough. Yes she's fifty. She just turned fifty fifty two years older than you. I'm saying Sixty Sixty E. Oh Okay incontinent are you. You didn't have no no I mean no I I I did but what I had my baby when I had may vaginal early then yes things changed his time. It was so weird when you were saying like well you know. My friend is fifteen years younger hunger and I was like well. I heard a hundred hunter. I didn't have any problems. And then I you just pointed it out. I had of course you'd have any problems bitch which also I had two children with no problems. 'cause I was twenty two and you would have not even noticed. I had kids like like nothing was deliver. My boobs were in the same place. Everything was all in the same place. They were five pound. I push whoosh shot him across the room. Everything was probably only had bigger. You know what's in there other than babies that's terrible. Oh my God said that. But I'm saying everything was fine until Isaac Music. I'm going to be in shape and everything's GonNa be great and then I gave birth to him and it was like gravity. Just fucking pommelled me. I didn't even breastfeed. SPD's Kim I- boobs pull them out of my bell now my even my new Eliezer like falling. Yeah I'm Joe I mean. Most of this is an exaggeration. I'm just saying it is considerably different when you're older and I mean I was fifteen years. Older is different when you give birth at thirty nine when you give birth at twenty two much much different it will yeah and it also is like I think it has to do with age as well because yes I gave birth to May vaginal early and yes it did things differently because it does you push child out of something that was not previously stretched and then yes and it does go back for the most part but for me it feels. It does feel like when I'm looking at pictures of me when I was. I just found a picture of me when I graduated from college. And I like made my face really big so I could like look get my face and I barely recognize myself because I was so full of extra layers. My little faces like rounder. My whole aw my whole face is different you can. You are very very it's true. I I was cleaning out my photography and I found pictures of that. I screen shot that I took took of you in that soap opera. You did like there's a youtube of Elsie in a soap opera. And I swear you can't fucking recognizer is or not. I mean the makeup. Yes but also her hair is different. Her skin is is our different color. Like it's everything is different not in a bad way but just different I was just I was buller. I had my yeah. It was like you had four extra layers of skin not fat but Stinson. Yeah where did it go. Elsie chime time. My children like suck it out and I think it's the same thing you're saying gravity hold it and then it's dry and I'm just like dry. I think you rest fed so along that they took out the rest of your bodily fluids that you need to like that you needed to look moisturised. Yes you're correct so I have no cheeks right. She has no cheeks speaks no wrists. No ass no boobs. She's been she looks like a balloon. That's been deflated and then turned out. Yeah and I I actually think so I mean when I say. I'm not better though because I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like where did this extra chin. How did I get this extra Chin and then when I try to do the me Emoji like they have the new Emoji where you turn it on and it does your face my frown? My marionette lines are so bad that the memo. Jeez frowning being landing it's like nobody cool no that's not cool no it's not. I don't mind being fat but I don't WanNa look frowning yet but now we're going to have to stop talking about the sadness of growing older and move into the joy of sharing our favorite things because this is sort of like our gift guide slash favorite things. We love this year and things that we would like to tell you about the first thing that we really love. That were excited to talk about today. Should I are sponsor Edgar. Yes no our sponsor meet Egger meet at Gar are sorry. So you guys Elsie. I've used me Edgar for a long time it's a social media scheduling tool. That helps you focus on your show not on your social. They have a new pricing tier. That's per for podcasters for longest time. 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I've worked in a lot of hosts I've worked with a lot of hosting companies. I've I've been on the back end. I like new select when websites I was under the skirt of many competent or the skirt. Many podcasters so I know the back ends pretty well of Lipson and Blueberry Empire Abi and speaker and captivate and a bunch of other so We won't do this today. 'cause today I'm talking about me and her. We Love Meat Edgar. Tom Tate who used to work at a ever ever is now at meet Edgar. And he's loving it. The company was founded by Laura Rotor. Who was one of the first instructors of be school? Elsie and I met so works. Rex really excited that they are supporting us in our show. We're happy to support them as well so once again. MEET EDGAR DOT COM for slash. She podcasts Now Right now here. We go favourite themes episode. That is that a good jingle. Amazing stay shall we just go back and forth. Are we going to do one. And then you do another and whatever should we do back and forth or should we do like should we try and go category like what's in the clothing living category. What's in the tech category? Why don't we do it that way? And then I will just pass if I don't have anything in that category. So why don't we do it that way so you start l.. Start because I don't see anything in your clothing category. Although I don't have anything about within Canaccord okay. I have a few of my clothing category because this year I have decided a couple of things first of all moving my office downstairs so that my mother-in-law can have my office up here my daughter's bedroom his it's bigger nicer. She deserves. GotTa guess for giving birth my husband so I am moving downstairs and it's really cold and then office in fact is it calls it. Because it's his playroom. He calls it my cold office so I am trying to make new strides rides in sweatpants sheet and I found that American Eagle their double. Xl really fits the more than double xl like the double xl express for example would be like a fluffy fourteen year old whereas like an American Eagle. Actually actually four plus size women. So I found the best pairs of sweater pants. I have polar bear sweater pants and I have another pair of just ugly sweater pants. I wore with him yesterday with a white what they call the amazingly soft Hoodie by the way these are not affiliate so feel free to go shopping on their freely without deal they will get paid something. I've been also buying a lot of white clothing. I'll explain that in a minute. But yes so white sweatshirt polar bear leggings. I was so comfy and cute yesterday and I felt like balls because I've been sick and I just was like so nice to be cute and feel like shit at the time so they I'm wearing macy's soft corduroy leggings black sweater. Those of us who work from home and never leave the house like. I don't have to wear the ugliest clothes I own. I'm trying to do like like I said I know they call it as leisure but I'm not athletic so I wanted to be leisure close but cute and fluffy so another thing I bought from American Eagle was. You'll have I don't know if you can see them there velour leggings flare. So they're like oh he'll velvet pants with a bell bottom. I swear thought of you but I thought she doesn't like leggings so I wouldn't have got him for their amazing. I am the cutest personalized when I wear these pants. I love that it. I think I'm GONNA have to check out some of these ones for myself. Because you're right. I have gotten well you know. My mom sent me the best soft Fuzzy Z.. Flannel Pajamas this season. Because she knows I'm a fan of like anything that's fluffy and furry and saw and I have lived in these things but I kind of love love I mean I don't mind that I wear them all day like that. I don't have an issue around that. Yeah but I would love to have the same feel with clothing. That looks looks slightly more spark if I were sparkly like what you look like you know what I mean that it's like cuter right. Just a little bit of Glitter Strand Strand or a velvet. Look yes exactly just something. I mean the furry stuff I didn't even have a lot of but like the furry velvet does give it a little bit of a shine which it was fun. Yeah so I like that and you are absolutely right. I do not like any kind of leggings like even just looking i. I'm looking at the ones that you have with. The polar bear sweater leggings news. And when I look at that I was like. Oh my God I mean just the the thinking that that has to wrap around my legs. I'm just like no. Yeah no no. I don't like it Yup but whatever that's me yeah I mean it's really important. I think to be comfortable and also working out more. I want to be able to look like I'm working. He would. I'm not working out and I don't know I just want to be cute and lazy at the same time. This is my way of doing it. The last thing in the in the apparel category is glasses. There's this website I'm gonNA spell it out but there's no point. Just go to the show notes. It's me but it's vogue me dot com but it's with to open me dot com. I think it's only women's glass and they had the craziest. Ask frames you've ever seen in your life. And they have a whole section of fast. Fashiony Steph frames which. I would not call myself a fashion Easter. However they are like super thick cat is indefinite glitter and like weird rhinestone in corners? And I just got my new prescription yesterday from the eye doctor because I thought I was going blind turned out that the last doctor improved my eyesight without my permission permission and so I've been seeing a lot worse than normal for two years and so I thought Oh my God I'm aging having a heart attack I have I have cataracts. I didn't know what was wrong with me. She was like no. You just had a big jump from your last prescription now. I know why because that woman's in idiot so I'm getting new glasses and a by focal and readers which I already should have been worrying before but now I definitely know that I have to so contact lenses with reading glasses and then these glasses which will have maybe a sleep. Ah By focal. I guess so yeah. Food Dot Com. Those are my favorites. But there's lots of them for Mu F. I. R. M. O.. Zanny optical will those are the cutest ones. I think I know you don't need glasses. Because you're a whore but hey no no no. I bought my first glasses to like this year. I have glasses member. You don't wear them the But I don't wear them because I wear them like I would need them like I need them specifically like if I'm going to the movies or if I'm watching a movie at night I have to put put them on site. Could actually see the screen properly without me squinting if I know anything at ninety do wear them just not in public. The I don't really need need them right now to be looked because you know one of the reasons I don't as much as because a mind don't do the whole by focal whatever. The transition transition lenses. So if I have to look at my phone and then look up. It's annoying because I can't see the phone I have to lift the glasses and if it's just too much so I think I probably would wear more than more if I had a transition thing and I think I'm going to do that especially at night when my eyes as get super tired. Yeah so that's going to be a thing but I thank you for the. I've been looking for lenses. Lenses frames. Yeah you know. I've worn glasses since I was eight years. So you're like deciding when and where you can wear your glasses. And meanwhile I need a seeing eye dog if I don't have my non but that's cool. Okay well it looks like Elsie on your stuff. This is a good segue into the lifestyle category. It looks like Elsie has a few choice. Items in the lifestyle category and I don't know if this is the active lady the lifestyle or the actively podcast lifestyle. But you seem to have a few things on your so hit it. Yeah I think it's both and so I am a huge like my biggest thing I told the justice like I am all about like utilitarianism. Yes but with a slash of cuteness so it has to be cute it. It has to be like in some way shape or form aesthetically pleasing to me so that I'm happy to use whatever item it is sometimes because I can't find the cuteness I settle settle for just utilitarian and most of the time. My heart hurts a little bit. It's kind of like when you decide you're going to stay with that one guy because you think that you can't get any better. It's Kinda like that so I found my dream my dream bag this time so I am fully one hundred percent committed. I'm in love and has not stopped stops so it's been now like I think I've had this bag now for six months. Evan searching for this bag for years 'cause I when I want to find an item that I know I used daily all the time I search and search and search and I try things out I try not to buy things and like have them like I hate wasting anything anything so if I I give myself time with stuff but this item I actually saw and waited to buy it for a while because I was like do I really want it is like I kept looking at it anyway. The bag is called the lily bag. It's a Canadian company. And I think it's called low lay L. O. L. E. with the little tiny dots on the top of the and so so it's Kinda like Lululemon ish but not right but this one back. So what's interesting about this company is that they obviously their clothing is the thing that drives this and they unlike Lululemon who generally updates Everything for every season. So you can't get that one bag that you got last season because it no longer is being made with Lola they actually stick to one bag and get in different colors of choice. I know and so they get this this one bag. This lily bag is made in like four different types. So that kind that I got is because of the color. I literally bought this bag because of the color I and the functionality right up there those two things we're perfection for me was the best marriage right there and the third thing is the fact that I was was looking for a bag that could both be backpack and a tote at a moment's notice without having to deal with all kinds of problems with this thing and it's really hard to find something like that so anyway the low lay the lily bag. I bought in like this really bright bright yellow. And if those of you who are at she podcast live. Probably saw this thing on my back. Doc It's like pretty huge and it is bright yellow but they are not just bright yellow lake there have different colors that are more unquote normal. Like like your blacks and your tans and your reds and stuff and they have different Material that goes along with them as well. The one that I got is sort of like a plat not plastic ask. You don't even know how to all look like they're waterproof yet but the two other ones that they have in there. They have a leather one. I don't see the leather one but the parachute material. What strong like a tent? Yeah they also have other ones that are made out of cloth the cloth thing and they have a leather they have different materials for some of the ones that they make and then they run out of them and they make more of them but they add a color to it so. This is the yellow that I got anyway. The reason that I loved it the most is because it had a place to to put my computer. It's also really strongly shaped so one that's opened. You can easily put things in and out really fast and that drives me nuts like windbags like fold on themselves and you have to pull them open and you have to. You're trying to shove something in there and everything comes together and it's so annoying. This stays in shape shape and I can put my stuff like my computer. My Bullet Journal which is kind of pretty fat. It has a lot of different notebooks in it. I Ah can put my bose case in there which is not necessarily a skinny thing. I mean it's pretty big and then I also can put my microphone in there like the one that I carry like on the ago if and when I have to record outside of my house I can shove that in there. It has places on the sides to put all kinds of stuff it has a little extra little pouch that it comes with for like my essential makeup that I put in there. I mean it has all of these little baby compartment everywhere and I can use it as a toe and I could use it as a backpack so so I am in love and it has a black Bonham so if I place it on the ground it's not gonNa Start Looking like crap dirty disgusting gusting thing. 'cause I use it all the time and what I've noticed with my other bags is that usually they start to look really dirty and disgusting because I use it so much watch and this bag does not do that. Like it still looks for the most part very very clean and then if it starts to get a little bit dirty we all have to do is wipe it a little. Wipe the stuff that it's Kinda looking a little funky and it looks like really like Nice so I'm and it's made really well. It hasn't started falling apart because I put my stuff through its paces. I'm not gentle with my things that's really convenient especially with kids right now. The other thing that I have here here that is been life changing for me in this and I bought a third one. which is the only reason I'm showing this and I think I shared this in the last? I think last year I shared this to our are hydro flax and I have a forty ounce I have to forty ounce hydra flex but I bought one in yellow the same color as my bag of course and that one is where I I have my hot water with me all. I know that you see how opposite. We are dude. You cannot drink any water. That's not cold with ice and I cannot really deal with too much cold water unless it's like summertime other than that. It either has to be warm or hot more hot so in the morning I boyle forty ounces of water and I put it in my little flask and then it stays warm the entire day when I can sip through it all day long long and it warms me up when I start to get cold and whatnot but what's lovely about hydro flex is that it does whatever you want it to so if you would like to have ice in your water and you WanNa keep it all day you can put it in this same little hydro blacks and because of the way that it's like made I don't even know like it keeps the perfect perfect temperature. I duNNo. They're like whatever that is when you put the lid on it it actually works so it keeps it and I love it so much. I love these and this is what I have for my girls. They have smaller ones. I use for my coffee but my yellow one is happy. Makes me happy and I ride on it at the bottom. If found please taxed and then I have a phone number that I have down there. That is not necessarily my home phone number but it is a tech number that I have so that I can get text messages. It is and then I have it in there and it actually worked because I left my little yellow yellow non away in the airport when I went went to buy some like when I was coming back from podcast live. I got myself a frozen yogurt at the airport as a treat like as I was like heading home and I was in line and I had to put the bag the down and take my wallet out and all that stuff and I got my hands full with the yogurts. I totally forgot about about my bottle and I went to sit down and all of a sudden as I'm sitting there I get taxed and said hey you're yellow bottles over here. The yogurt place. Then I was like. Oh Oh my God that's amazing and I went and got it so it was like cited. That's amazing wow so cool you know the hydro flask. Is the the number one confirmation that you've cited a visco girl right gene-o fiscal girls are yes. Yes no now what is it. This girl is a type of influence. Her that wears crunchies and drinks from a hydro flask and uses the VISCO APT to filter all their photos and their office. They always want to save the turtles and they use all use hydro flask. Not that there's anything wrong with it. It's lovely how about not that. I had the VISCO APP on my phone and I didn't find it that appetizing so I deleted it. I don't think it's that great either but I guess they use it all the time. All right then yeah okay so those are your to. Do you have any other lifestyle and yet keep going you. You keep telling me some other things about lifestyle that you might have gotten over me. Okay well I can just go into. This isn't really lifestyle but while no always until software I've found an SE store that finally has an apple watchband that isn't hideously ugly and I'll just have lc put a lincoln to it because it's an ad see store. That's called Bo. Hippie Apple Watch band it's just bracelet. Looks like bracelets and then your Apple Watch is kind of in the middle of it but like the plastic ones depress me the leather ones. You're supposed to be able to wear it swimming so that's GonNa get al Wet. I've been wanting one that looks cool and not like I'm about to run a marathon like I just ate the way the apple ones and so this whole store has like a billion cute ones coughs and bracelets and rhinestone -I ones and just finally I mean it's so rare to find their forty bucks but I needed something cute because I'm tired of looking like I don't know I just feel like those are very as you say utilitarian. No you're right it. Does I think that you're absolutely right. When when it comes to those watches like there are some things that I feel need to be utilitarian esque esque and then for me with? It's such a high end watch. Why do you always need to have like those utilitarian? You need to be able to dress it up right yet. Oh this is so cute. It looks looks amazing. It looks like then I'm like I would consider wearing a an apple. Watch like that. I just where every time I look at them I go. They just looked so like as soon as I see it I go there. They were apple. Watch looking for some reason. I don't know yeah they are. Yes you are correct. So that I love and then I'm trying to think some these go from lifestyle too like hardware-software let's go with these pens. I found these amazing pets on Amazon. They are Super Fussy. They're like I think I think they're meant to be for bridesmaids because they're like rose gold ones right White with rose gold POLKA DOTS and one's white and at the top of them instead of an eraser has like a big old. What looks like a diamond ring? Just look the dining part there. So over the top fancy and girly and I'm just like eight bucks and I'm so attracted to them for some reason so I need like one hundred. I just want to share that with you. Because it's the opposite of the utility like here. I am like one so utilitarian and then I'm like where can I get a diamond ring in Penn.. I just find that when I do need a pen which is rare. It's kind of Nice to have like a fun pretty one. I love pretty pens. Dude I like I yeah absolutely I think I had. I talked about some of those pretty pens before but like before filling out the lifestyle thing before we switch over to some other podcasting more specific things may be possibly I discovered pop sockets this year I had been seen in sockets. Yeah like I had been seeing them. People I see people use them. I was like you know. I don't know I don't know about pop. Socks didn't click for me. It seemed annoying. It seemed like why I just kept looking at that. And then when we went to podcast movement we did one of these like super fast. I don't know like mentorship sessions that I had had to do like we were in a room and everybody would come to the table and we would teach people and then they switched stuff but anyway the sponsor of that event gave out little pop sockets for his company and so I had a pocket and I was like let me use it and I was like Oh Duda tries your phone. Yes this is need. I kind of really dig it. Oh Oh I get it. So then it all started to click and then I thought Oh my God I don't want this dudes company on my phone because is number one. I'M NOT GONNA use it number two. It's really ugly like it's not even acute logo or anything so I had to go by myself pop socket and of course I bought Harry Potter. One that says platform nine three quarters on it so just because I'm such a Dork. I'm in that Ma- that makes me happy. And so now every time I look at it I go. This is neat. I still had in mind you. I am now still on the search for the perfect pop socket and I think that it's going to have to be some kind of she. podcast one. That has sparkles on it. I have a feeling that I'm we're GONNA have to do something like that because it is absolutely necessary now as she podcast. CASTLEROCK sockets are awesome. The only problem is they don't last forever and it makes me sad. They like I want them to last much longer than they actually do like. It'll peel off my phone or you know. Just when you think you you're confident in stickiness it disappoints. Oh you know what. It's so funny because I have a cover above my cover on my phone so like it's not. I had previously tried to address my phone up because I was like really. I couldn't find the perfect cover for my phone. That is both utilitarian and cute. So I dressed up my utilitarian case ace and I think the reason that it works well for me is because it's not stuck on the phone for whatever reason it sticks really a lot better to whatever the cover is that I have on top of it that makes says I'm looking at it from a next cover. Maybe one that has one embedded in their camp popoff. Yeah Otter boxes making those right now. I know that that's something awesome so anyway. Oh and then the last thing in terms of that I think I have do. I have one last thing that has changed my life. This year is the nutribullet neutral it the nutribullet like little blender thing. I bought two this year so actually I think I bought mine. I was January. I bought mine in January. The nutribullet pro which is around eighty nine dollars so I got it and it has changed my life. That thing is amazing I used to have a blender before where I used to make smoothies to that thing and then whenever I drank those movies it was like chewing. The bids of the tea leaves that tend to to get stuck at the bottom of when you're having tea and it breaks and then all of a sudden you're drinking and you're like Oh my God it's like that. That's what it used to feel like when I made made my smoothies chewing on vegetables and it was just not great i. It looks like to by the way like she's just chewing on mud. Wouldn't sticks yeah but no but now with the neutral appro when you make the thing it's like just most like it's just it doesn't than have bits. It's all the twigs for her. Yes happy so it's like just normal it's kind of like you're having a Jumba juice or something like like that where it's like. The consistency of it is very drinkable. It's more it's more liquid than solid. Let's put it that way so I loved it the super a lot and then because because my girl like hunter now has a smoothie. Every morning I left the smoothie year when I went to she podcast live and then I bought another one that I could take with me that I'll travel all with. Which is the neutral bullet that the neutral it and it's cheaper? I think it's like fifty nine bucks or something. These things are amazing. If you guys wants me these get these. He's there are no brainers so continuing on the contrast of you and me I got an Air Fryer. My mom has one of those. It is amazing first of all does make things healthier because there's no oil whatsoever and like so. I show John My Pizza Bagel this morning. Scott maybe this beautiful pizza Beagle. It's a Bagel with tomato sauce and low fat cheese. He put in the air fire for like seven minutes. And it's like this beautifully. toasty wonderful perfect. Pizza bagel looks so much. And it's like I guess it's kind of convection oven so cooks everything from all sides. Let's see the first day. I took frozen French fries and put them in and they were like the perfect perfect crispiness with like a little bit of you know mashed potato in the middle but they were like saw on the outside. They were perfect the next morning Scott Butter to Bagel and put it it in there and he was like it was like a fried Bagel is the best thing I ever had on my h- obsessed with it now. Then his mother. This is only the only bad thing we order Chinese food. You like the first or second night we had it and I opened it up and she was thumbing through the recipes and she loves salmon so she's like. Oh they have honey hooted salmon and there she had a raw robbed the fish in the fridge so she puts it in there trying to eat. I swear none of us can. We were all sitting with our shirt of our knows. All you could smell was slimy fish. Oh my God it was so terrible and Scott was like he wasn't just like trying not to smell gagging scouse frowning. And she like what do you want me to I do and I'm like he's like how. `Bout you don't put a piece of fish with a fan on it airfreight you just blow hot air out the back right which is basically basically aimed at our dinner table. The whole room smells like fish. None of us could eat because all you could smell. It was so terrible herbal so no fish in there but it's great for frozen food. It's great for baking stuff. They have some recipes but like so far. It's just been good for like I mean great for breakfast and I don't now we haven't really that much but but it's great because you don't have to use so much energy like you do with an oven and you can make all kinds of great stuff in it without having to add oil which is cool. I think I love it. We might have to buy one of those things because I think that would work out really really well for our fast guys only to use the microwave. So it's perfect for you. Yeah we don't have the microwave. Yeah even better so this would be this. Would this solves a lot of problems. Heating up pizza. He beat up a piece of pizza from Leftover Pizza. It was perfect basically. You can do most anything anything. He lives in our thinking about his hotdogs. How we will it explode in the air fire? I'm figured that out yet because I really explodes in the microwave. Because it's being you know spontaneously Ashley combusted. But I don't think that would happen. And maybe it would be grilled. Jr is only one way to find out throw. Turn it on. Yeah we have working smoke detector so it's talk good. Oh my God all right so shall we move to some podcasting things. 'cause we we're going to have to wrap up soon but let's me the whole time. Hi I'm on fucking bullshit all right. Let's you hardware and software. Do you WANNA start. Which one hardware-software let's do hardware aware? Okay all right and now onto some nice podcasting related things or things that can help you with podcasting so this year I think the biggest game changer for me was when my old school computer which I've had since I don't remember when twenty I can't remember when I bought that computer said Dude. Twenty eight to twelve right so once she. I will never forget when I asked you. How old your computer was and you said twenty twelve that is burned into my brain for eternity? Yeah so anybody was working really well. I think I bought it like at the beginning. Twenty thirteen it was a two thousand twelve MAC book air that I bought at the beginning of early two thousand thirteen. It was doing really really well but in the summer the USB port stopped working. And I did all of the trouble shooting thing that I could have. I did a lottery so please. Don't send me all kinds of different things that I should have gone. I reached to the pros on what to do with my computer over panel. Don't help help. And Yeah and then after all of that I finally took it into apple and they essentially said that after it because I said these are the things things like the steps I've taken to reset and do all the stuff and they said it looks like it's a logic board issue And it can go at any time so there is no oh like eighteen right now or not And in the problem is that I work with USB ports all the time. There's no way I could have done that and I couldn't couldn't take that anymore like it was like. Oh my God. My computer's going to die like right now and I can't live without it. It's my job right so she podcast was was very nice and got a computer. I wanted you to be functional. So yes yes. Our business bought her a new computer. And I and it is a MAC book air. It's a late twenty eighteen model and it is a rose gold thirteen inch and it's I think I pretty not much almost maxed out in terms of like how you can upgrade it. The only thing I didn't upgrade was the hard drive so I have a five hundred something gigabyte hard-drive versus the solid state drives out. It comes within. I think it can go all the way up to a one terabyte but I didn't really need that so it is really early great. It's so much lighter than the now the other one looks so huge. I'm like Oh my God and it without a thirteen inches. Well it's just that the design of it is totally different. I love everything about it except maybe the keyboard which I had heard a lot about the keyboard thrown that it's a well. It's just different like back when I type on this keyboard. It is really loud whereas when I used to type in my a two thousand thirteen It was not like I could actually flow. Yeah I was so it's designed Giles. Yeah it was. It's really weird. That's the only thing. I'm not too keen on everything else. Yes I think it's a really powerful computer. There was somebody who was wanting to buy. I think Danielle shout to you. Missy was looking to buy a new computer Peter and the question even you just you were asking me is this is this going to be is powerful enough for like editing and stuff. I do believe that it's it's it's it's a powerful. Little computer actually does a lot more than you think it does in terms of what it can do in terms of processing so any kind of audio any kind of recording. I think video editing as well. It does really well. I think what it doesn't do really well On is if you're doing a lot like if you're doing a lot of video editing like if your video editing is your job and you're managing and dealing with a lot of things and running a lot of different programs that's this is probably not the computer that you want but for podcasting it's great. It's amazing the only thing is of course because everything's redesigned. Now now you have got to buy everything else. Meaning there's Don you have to buy a gazillion different dangles Donald Donald Donald Donald Angle dungle. So that's that's all the new ones. I couldn't figure new computer for myself also and I tried to go to the macbook air. But you're right. The video just wasn't fast enough enough and I can't make like the reason. No one has seen a promo video for like she. podcast live is because my computer keeps dying every time I tried to do it. And it's my only computer so house house like a better guide. No no space. I have no memory on this one rates like eight Gig of memory and like you know like one hundred twenty something of storage. So now I'm going to have two terabytes terabytes of storage thirty. Two GIG of memory A new graphics. Whatever you know eight core processor Sir like because my computer yesterday it was dying just trying to use zoom is And I've only had it two years but I mean I think the trick is and I will never make this mistake again. Like if you need a new computer and you're like well just upgraded later. No you won't you'RE GONNA because two years when it doesn't work anymore you don't WanNa put put in another processor. Another memory may as well just buy a new one. So I'm buying a new one so I'm GonNa have a sixteen inch also the reason I got a bigger screen. Even though I know the thirteen inch is is perfectly good. Because that's what I have right now is if anyone saw the programs from she podcast live and you'll notice that they were made for an eighty year old grandma. That's because I screen was so small. Moths I didn't think it would all fit on the page. Not Realizing of course stupid me I was too big of a hurry to like print it out and see but it was huge like each block was like one fourth of the page and it was like eight and a half by eleven so I was like. I'm going to get myself a bigger screen because that's ridiculous that I can't tell how big things are. So yeah so I got myself off new into other hardware. I would like to discuss. Very quickly is a standing desk. I'm going to try one of those. I like that. I saw that. That's a great price. Nice to hear box and it just goes around your yup around having your desk and you can just stand insisting instead I gotta start doing it. 'CAUSE my ass is starting to adhere itself to this chair there and that's no good. I think that's it. I think everything else for me is soft on. What about you already other hardware? Think I have. Some more hardware is because of the I have the hardware for That has this year with a road. Castro has been lying. Got Life Changing for me. This little machine is what we're both recording on today. John is kind love piping me in today because I don't have the proper bandwidth for us to do what we've been doing lately. So he set up his road Castro pro. He called my I cell phone. So we're having a cell phone conversation that's being piped in through the roof caster pro which can be heard by both John and Jess S. but also on my end I have put the phone into my wrote. Casts are pro. And I am doing two separate recordings which I'm recording in the road. CASTER MR itself and I'm also recording on my computer so I have backup files happening at the same time and it's just amazing. I mean it's just a for somebody who it doesn't have very good connection like me. This is an unbelievable product and it is something for people who do who happen to have in. This happens all the time if you have the the budget like this puppy right now. It's about five hundred ninety nine dollars and you do still need to have a microphone right so you do have to purchase a microphone do that but if you we'll have that and you have a show where you have an interview show or you need to interview guests that have zero idea how to even get on the internet which you'd be surprised. There are a lot of people who are doing this. There are a lot of people who are interviewing people who don't know how to use skype. Who Don't know how to use zoom who have problems with all kinds of stuff and you just can tell them? Just call my phone here. Everybody can do that. And then you can just record them and it's perfectly fine and you don't have to deal with any other software like you don't have to have an extra account for anything else other than this so it does in in the long run ends up saving and you money because it's so versatile so and We also started using the high. OPR thirty which we got this year. Both Justin I and I really love this microphone as a higher end microphone than the Sang Sung. Koo To you which I love and carry with me. I have three Samsung Q to use that. I now have just for any time that I need to record on Road Castor on the scene or backups. Or whatever I have those but when I'm at home and I want to be fancy that's what was going to be in my inquiry Home Studio if that ever happens the high appear thirty is what's GonNa be here awesome. Yeah those are the things anyway go for it. Just okay I have been really getting into notion and all the different things can do it. Can by the way connects a quarterly monthly weekly and daily Journal and counter altogether together. Which I'm trying to put that together right now? It can create Something called text. Stacks where in the future when I do these favorite things we can embed the web page. And then just send you the link to that so you can like click right on them also like things we recommend for podcasting or social media or websites and stuff like that you can create these like crazy galleries stories and just sort of send links to them for people. You can make a task list that connects to all those counters and then embedded in every page. I can put it in the show notes. I can put it in my personal stuff. I can put it in the Steph. I'm using for sheep. He live and just keep everything straight. It's GONNA organize my entire head Marie Pool in who is somebody I know. She's a wonderful wonderful women. Entrepreneur has teaching notion four notion. Actually she does her office hours and she has a notion mystery. Course that I just started and I'm overjoyed way to be able to get to know it. Learn more so. That's definitely on the list. Start using notion its greatest strength is also its biggest weakness which is that it is completely customizable. Might as well there for a little bit overwhelming. So I'm all about templates. I'm all about templates anyway. I have no as an ADHD person very overwhelmed with a blank piece of paper and so so any time. I'm going to do anything. I almost always search for template just so that I know how to start without having a panic attack so those things are. I forgot one of my favorite I. I forgot one of my favorite little lifestyle. I'll put it in there. There's this great great website. That does the most cute kitchen shit ever. It's called French bull and you can just check it out when you have a chance besides notion. I want to talk about so lately on Instagram. I've been seeing these advertisements for something called light and airy filters for your photos for for mobile for desktop and as you know the she podcast live photos. Were a little bit dark. There's no real windows in the Atlanta Yeah Marriott Marquee and the lighting and the decor is very very dark so I bought these mobile presets for light room on the mobile phone for like forty bucks. Then actually they were so good. Bought them for the desktop. Which of course? I can't use my computers piece of shit but I will be using them soon. They have made our photos. Look completely lately different. Elsie like these are not the same photos we saw on instagram. They're not the same photos that we took ourselves. They're not seeing photos. Even though Li that Liacouras Cahora who by the way she took a lot of our speaker photos you'll get a chance to see those but if you want to hire her for her a dot com I think or w out no no. Just leave her. You can look for her in our group she podcast group. These filters have made our pictures. Look actually there was light there. I changed our headshots because it's not that they were to Dr because now they did a great job. And it's just like now you can see the color of my hair. My hair is dark against a dark background and so now everything is differentiated in their amazing these filters are amazing light and airy photography DOT COM racket in. Okay if you guys all know what it is and you do any kind of online shopping with black. Friday is my official holidays so like I I do a lot of black Friday. Shopping racking is a chrome plug in where especially around this time of year. Black Friday cyber Monday Christmas they like stores stores will offer you cash back if you shop there and the only way you can get it is if you go to the website for example go to macy's DOT com today. They're having ten percent cashback so the plugin plugging we'll ask you. Would you like to activate the racket in ten percent cashback. You say yes it refreshes you spend money sends you cash I shit you not over Black Friday I made two hundred fifty dollars back just using this plugin and doing nothing else but shopping. Wow that's crazy. Two hundred fifty dollars. I know it's crazy so right now. Just going. To racketed is our K. U. T. E. N. Coles has six percent macy's ten percent and they have literally every store shortly Sephora is usually six percent Amazon has a percentage back today Walmart. Bloomingdale's everything gap everything. And you know. Even if you're just buying a twenty dollar saying being like it adds up it adds up when you're buying stuff especially for Christmas and if you do mostly online shopping's a great way for you to just save a little more. It doesn't go against coupons. It's not it has nothing to do with whatever coupon code you find. It doesn't go against anything. It's just a either. They must have some kind of relationship with the stores where they can offer cash pack and I mean why not reap the rewards of that so I just wanted to let you guys know that because it's super helpful for making some cash. I think that is it for me as far as my favorite stuff. Oh there's one more thing else you'll you link for it so like I'm because Hasim cleaning on my office. I'm moving around and I have a giant bucket of courts that like I have to every time I need something for. I have an Apple Watch every time we need to make a USB an Amazon court just like a tangled mess of Chord. So I bought a giant amount of velcro cord. Wraps you can see how many how many forty I don't even know more. It's huge. There's little ones and big ones because the big ones you know. You need for your mics because those are bass chords words and their little ones to now. I'm starting to have a little rainbow of fruit flavors a little that I can find easily in my desk or in a drawer instead of a giant mess everywhere. I go because there's was a mess. Your mouth is a mess next to my bed because I'm constantly looking for courts for my phone next to my bed so this is gonNA solve that problem in. Maybe it'll solve it for you. That is it I am done. What about you? You have more stuff do you. Not I just have just a little bit and then weekend finish off today. So essentially I back up. What Jessica said about notion I I love that thing and it is? It does all the things but I think that the biggest issue with that is because it does that because it is so versatile you do need time time to be able to kind of sit there and and and make it do what you want to do versus like you don't go into notion and say how does this work right now on your mind. Yeah you don't just do like you. How obviously you have basics like you understand the concept of a lot of things that happened within the software but the magic doesn't happen until you know how to use the pieces to me? It's kind of like Lego. You can either by the Lego and then this the way that it would it tells you right. You'll make the little thing that tells you how to do the stuff or you could totally see shapes in your head and then you can put all the Lego pieces together and then like may get so. I'm not one of those people which is why need templates. Because I always hated reading list for this exact reason blocks and I nope and I would run away. But we're GONNA hire cannot wait. It's it's so so you. If you do need a little more guidance I think that what I'm going to take a look at it as well and then see if we can develop something within it because because it's an insanely amazing tool and phonic everybody everybody every podcast or needs to have a phonic desktop and if you want to start saving today just even a dollar a day day or whatever you know ten dollars a month for yourself. It's eighty nine dollars for the desktop version. You need to have. It'll save your butt so many different times you won't have to going into she. PODCAST complaining about my levels are often all this kind of stuff just by the thing already. It is unbelievable and I love it so so very much in the last little piece of software for the has been amazing for this year for me again has been Cambe camp appro because being able to really quickly on the fly design things that kind of resemble Zampbell something appealing is awesome. Like it makes you be able to design stuff in such an easy way especially if you already have have like colors and fonts and things that you have decided are is your brand and you can very easily create things on the fly and if you don't have a graphic designer support in the house so that's something for you to really invest time playing around with and learning how to use because it's an incredible to and they're doing so many other things anyway that it for that mind you guys. All of this stuff is going to be in the show notes so there are gonna be links of things is that are mentioned. Even the things that just kind of mumbled through and you didn't understand why she said yeah that's still going to be in the show notes so all of that stuff is going to go ahead and look through it and you can click through any of these things and no. We don't actually have. I mean we should at some point but at this time we don't I don't have any affiliate links to any of this stuff. We're just putting it out there but if you do WANNA support US head on over to meet Edgar Dot com slash podcast and support our our sponsor. Because that's really a wonderful way for you guys to do it. Testimony from one dollar to get to get you guys started. It can be amazing. And that's just. It's another way that you can really start doing more of the things that you love around podcasting and stop you know wasting so much time figuring out how you're going to get so much promotion out for your show because you're so busy editing. Yes absolutely oh God. That was a long show full of lovely lovely things but now that we are wrapping up again. Please take else's advice. Go to meager DOT COM for slash. PODCAST also we have a VP group. And we do once a week and if if you'd like to join that at the current five dollar a month level you'd better do it soon because her couple weeks it's going to go up so patriotic dot com forward slash. 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