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Yes, you know. I think most of our questions will be answered tomorrow night. Time. Yeah. In the meantime, we're just going to be doing our best. So let's start talking about the day in celebrity big brother to because some stuff has been going on. We're we're finding out a little bit more of what happened. Why we're why we're at where we're at and what's going on with this eviction. And all of that. So to start the day e got Tae mar she's still mad about candy. Oh, yeah. I mean, we have the same conversation multiple times. And I don't think she's ever going to stop being mad about it. Yeah. Basically until candy or tame are one of them leave the house. This is going to be a thing. Yeah. And many people have intervened and asked do you want me to help do you want to try to fix it? When you want to do. And I I think it's just a big misunderstanding. But neither of them seem to really want to fix the problem. Yeah. I my guess is that the Tamar has a lot of misunderstandings with people and. Just somebody that is very no nonsense. And so happens to clash with her quite a bit. Yeah. And I mean, at least from what we got on the show last night. I'm I can understand if you're if you're upset about something. And you're kind of looking for continual reasons to be upset you're not going to appreciate the way candy reacted to the problem. But I I don't know. I don't know if there's anything that candy can do that would be right in this instance. Yes. And. Basically toward the end of the day. Tomorrow is going to get into the Ricky little bit. And that indicated to me like, basically if you can get into a fight with Ricky. You're get into a fight with anyone. That's really that's sort of what I'm thinking. So. Yeah. Kmart still upset about the candy thing. Basically, most of the advice being given terror is just don't be in the same room as her just ignore her avoid her. They just don't want to mar to mess up their lovely. Let's get out Jonathan plan in try to get candy out. Instead. So they're just trying to be like, let's postpone this for another few days. Please. Yeah. Yeah. I I think that. I mean, obviously Tamara wants candy out. And I don't know if I don't I don't see that happening. At least by what we've gotten so far and something really crazy. We'd have to happen tomorrow for candy to be the one leaving. So since she's going to be staying probably. I don't know if we're going to get more of this. I mean, if if tomorrow is up on the block or if she's she's definitely going to put candy out. But I don't see that. I I just don't see people voting her out just for taymor. Yes. They don't want to granted. They have. No like they've no strategic connection to candy. In fact, candy is pretty much actively against the women, but they want Jonathan out first. So they're like, no, no, no TAY, mar we need Jonathan then we can then we can deal with candy. So that's that's interesting to note there Jonathan and Ryan have a conversation. They veto ceremony is today when and we know that Kato is probably going to be using the veto on on, Tom. So Jonathan and Ryan have to figure out who the replacement nominee is going to be and Jonathan is trying to tell Ryan, hey, these women they've. Gotten really upset with us before when we didn't talk to them about making decisions. So we should go and talk to them about the decision and ask them what they think. And Ryan is I oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense. And Jonathan's thought is we should probably end up nominating. Joey because that will make the women happy, and we need to make them happy. So let's go do that the problem with all of this is they kind of they missed the boat on including the girls. So at this point. I don't think the women are really every time there talked to they're kind of like, oh, yeah. We'll we're fine with whatever because they already know that there weren't included initially. And so it's not it doesn't really count this time around. Well, well, I think the main port part here is that the women have Ricky in their ears saying, no, they're lying to you. Ryan has been talking about nominating you Lolo, they're lying. And so I feel like that's really the thing in there. You're that's like, oh, this is this is BS. I can't believe them doing this. They're trying to pretend that they're. Feeling aligns with us, even though they want us to be on the block, so. Yeah. Jonathan and Ryan do go, and they talked to low low Natalie and Tamar, and it's super awkward just like we saw in the episode last night where they're just kind of like, hey, guys. So I. I. I don't know if these people if Ryan especially in Jonathan lake every time, we see them on the episode. It's edited to make it look like they have no sense of like social wariness of how they're coming across especially to the women. And so I don't know if they get that vibe. But like you got to imagine being in the house OB hard not to pick up on that on how they're not being how awkward it is. I mean, Ryan is definitely picking up on it. Ryan is like dude, they're giving us nothing. This is terrible. And Jonathan's response is basically like I understand what you're saying. But if we have lost them than I'm already done. I'm toast. I'm dead in the water. So we gotta keep trying. I just thinking of this for the first time. But like if they realize they've lost the girls, they're the ones on the block they need help. Shouldn't they go to Tom in Kato and try to get them on their side and vote candy out or do something? I mean at this point they haven't even nominated anyone else for the replacement. So like, I just feel like there were there were other options. Instead, they just decided like, oh, it's either girls or we're going home. Yes. They are not this is not this is not a top level game play here from from Jonathan and Ryan. Unsurprising from Ryan. And I guess not too surprising from Jonathan given. What we've seen so far? So yes, they do they go to Natalie low low and Tamar it's super awkward. They're like, hey, what what what should we do? What should we do the nomination and the women are like, you know, what do you think? And they're like, oh, we would just wanted to include you guys and see what you think and they're like. And they're like what about deana or Joey. Maybe it doesn't matter whatever. And I okay, cool, then they leave. And then after believe the women are like those guys like they care what we think every time they left the room the girls just looked at each other and era pair, we gotta get rid of them. To be fair like to Ricky. I think he's playing an underrated game. But he he is John oven. Or Ryan did wanna put low low up initially. So I mean, he is telling the truth. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the world. I mean, it's real you run in with that one. Little fact, I'm shocked with how little people are talking about Ricky and his very key involvement in all of this switches that like he is basically keeping this ship going in the direction that it's going and we'll talk about that later as well. But this is not the women's natural inclination. They keep going back to maybe we shouldn't vote out Jonathan wait a minute though. But Ricky, and that's the thing that's keeping them on this on this train of thought. So Ricky really surprised me over the course of the last twenty four hours in I had no idea he was playing that much and we even saw some of it yesterday. So we'll talk about that. When it comes up as you mentioned yesterday on the morning update, Ricky chose really well in in the room that he is staying I think he wasn't going to broke down with the guys. And so he figured all right. All have the ear of the women and this'll be my move. And I mean, I don't I think the girls. Also have a tendency to talk more in that room. And so he's just picking up a lot more information just by being there because he's he's very different from a lot of the huskies in that. He's he's very zen yoga and all of this stuff. And so he's a he's a little bit older than the super younger crowd, which is in their thirties. And so he's not necessarily going to like naturally fit in with the rest of them in the same way that that somebody like Jonathan could have. But I think he understands that role and in haven, he's talked about in the past how he has social anxiety and all of these things, but I think the way that he has positioned himself is perfect for his personality where he is. He is seen as just is is Ricky he's all he's all by himself. Yeah, he wanted to veto competition. But whatever nobody is is recognizing what he's doing. And everybody. Everybody in that house is coming to Ricky thinking that they can get him on their side. So interesting, and when you look at the two people house who are playing the most low key with him and Dina the differences that Ricky is he's not being noticed for it. But he is actually doing things where he could make it argument at the end of the game. I think he'd be much more likely of the to win. Oh, yeah. And he's super likable. I mean, he's he's the biggest threat in the game. As far as I'm concerned right now. But we do have Tom and Kato who I think are two of the other will maybe not to the other. But one of the other big threats in the game, especially because they are benefiting quite a lot from what Ricky is doing. So Thomas talking about how hey, let's let's down play downplay the lines as much as possible in this veto ceremony. When we when you use the veto on me. It's not let's not be like, oh, yeah. We're in the lions I love the way like the simplistic way that they talk about the game. So like like like Thomas talking about talks talks about the game. Like, they just started like this is two thousand two thousand one and we're playing big brother too. And he's like, okay. So what we probably want to do is. When you use the veto. We'll we'll act like, you know, we're close, but you don't want to. Here's the thing about it. You don't wanna make it seem like we're super close like super tight like unbreakable or anything like that. So let's maybe downplay that a little bit, and oh, and here's here's another thing. Once devotes come in. We'll be able to cross check and see who who said what if everything works out. And was like, oh, but they don't tell you who voted which way is a nano, but they tell you the number, and so you can do the math, and if everything adds up exactly, then, you know, everybody voted the way that it said they did. But if they if it doesn't add up. Exactly then. Oh, we know. We know some people are lying caters. Oh, yeah. Makes sense in Tom is one of the only people in the house who instead of feeling sure about people based on what they tell him like a lot of these people are making alliances. And then they get upset when things that work. He's like I'm gonna be ninety percent. Sure about everyone intil we vote until we see what happens, and then we can move forward and make you know, make more plans. It's very it's very much like survivor where until you go to tribal council. You don't know where the lines really are. And I love Tom breaking down the game for Kato. Because at least he's doing that without him. Hit would have no clue. What's going? Yes. And this is also when when they're talking about the voting numbers Kato says, well, I'm not voting though. So that'll make it even easier which led some of us to believe. Oh, okay. Maybe maybe Kato and Natalie won't be voting because they were both. Hyun though, they both played in the veto as we saw O one of Edo. So why would they play in the veto? But then not be able to vote. I am prone to believe that this is a misunderstanding on Kato's part because Natalie has been talking like she has a vote all day long. And everybody else is talking like everybody has a vote. So in my assumption is that Kato is wrong. But there is a small possibility that Kato is correct. And that he and Natalie won't be voting. If that's the case it actually changes everything because it would be a lot easier for Jonathan to stay. If there were only five votes, and he was able to keep his allies off the book. He would have Joey he would have Dina, and if Tamar stays with her I need to get candy out, that's three votes Jonathan stays. So it actually makes a gigantic difference. But I'm pretty sure it's not the case with three people on the block. I can't see them in the voting. It's so few people voting in this whole week such a mess. It wouldn't surprise me. I would think I think that at the very least Natalie is voting there's a really small chance that like something in the veto contest. You could win it. But then you wouldn't have a vote. Who knows I think more likely like you said, it's probably mixing up the rules about head of household. Not being able to vote and he won something like the same. Yes. But so I like, I I'm pretty sure this is not the case there will be seven votes in which case it does not matter whether or not Joe on the block because you're not gonna get those votes anyway. But just something something talk. So we also had Jonathan and Ryan discussing this whole situation. Jonathan is saying I think we should put up Joey to try and appease the women Ryan is saying, no, the we we've lost the women. It's clear to us that we've lost the women. We should put up low low or somebody because Joey is a vote for you. And we need all the votes we can get there block making actually like pretty decent points here. Again, if if it is the case, the Cato Natalie can't vote then Ryan is one hundred percent, correct. That they almost definitely would have the votes if they didn't put Ryan up if they put Lolo up instead, however, if Kato and Natalie are voting, which I'm pretty sure they are Jonathan is actually probably more correct here because they do need the women's votes. And he's right in saying that if we've lost the women we've probably lost anyway. But the thing is they have lost the woman most likely, and if they have lost the woman, they need a new plan, and that new plan probably needs to include Joey they're not thinking about it that way, they don't realize that either way they've probably lost the woman. Yes. I agree. I mean, obviously, the the the way they're going about it is not gonna work either way. However, I do think the Jonathan is correct. With with seven votes. His logic is correct with the mindset they currently have which is wrong. Should Jessica putting up Ramseys. All right. Let me basically, I mean, they need they need the women or they need Tom and Kato or they need somebody more than more than Ricky. And they're not getting those people like Jonathan's right in his mindset. He's wrong in his plan. Nominating Joey is not going to help. That's that's what I'm trying to get a draw. Which is like the mindset is correct. They need to get the women to their side. And I think they're capable of it. But nominating Joey is not the correct way to do that. He should just nominate DNA or or whatever because it doesn't. It doesn't matter because there's not a lot of true. And that's that's part of it too. Is that it is a tough spot to be an especially the first week of the game. But but they need to get the women on their side. And the way to do that is not to be like, oh, we'll nominate whoever you want the way to do that is to start talking to them and just like like don't stop just like going in there with transactional conversations. Like, hey, this is our designated conversation for the day. Like, the reason you approach these people because you said that they were gravitating towards each other. But you are not socializing with them. There's something broke down in the communication over the course of the last week, and we saw it in last night's episode where clearly they just stopped talking to each other. They just you know. Vo women felt like a little weird. And then that made the men feel a little weird. And then that little weirdness just spiraled and spiraled into this endless cycle of getting weirder. And weirder to the point where now they can't even speak to each other without being super awkward, and it would be so easy for them to just be like, hey. Natalie guys Lola like what's going on is something wrong. I it's been so weird. And we've been so scared to talk to you like just can we just have a conversation about what's been happening. I think if they did that they'd be fine. I honestly do based on what I've seen from the women so far they are on the edge enough that they would be willing to hear them out. If they had a conversation that way, especially low low and Ryan Lolo definitely wants to be friends with Ryan. That's all I genuinely feel that's all they need to do. But instead, they're like, no, no, we need to nominate our best friend, Joey. And and then have like two conversations a day where we tell the women that were doing what they want because we're nominating Joey. Yes, that's going to work. It's like what are you doing? Well, I think the other thing is Lolo probably feels like I do think she likes Ryan wants to work with Ryan had. I think that that's not that is not incentivizing her to keep Joey Jonathan if anything she wants to get Jonathan out. So that Ryan is more freed up. Yeah. I think it's like she clearly wanted to work with both of them at one point. But she feels like I think the only reason she feels threatened by Jonathan is because they don't talk to her anymore because she because Jonathan entered the situation, and that made things change it made things changed from. Oh, I'm in good with Ryan. And we talk a lot to now Ryan's not talking to me anymore. What's the what's the difference? Jonathan it makes it it makes it very easy to just be like, hey, Jonathan is the problem. It's just it's it's such. It's such a mess of of just like weird socialness. And of course, again, the the key factor here that the men are not seeing is Ricky in their ears telling them because they keep going to Ricky confiding in him. So the women are being weird. Maybe we should put up Lolo, and then Ricky's running that back to the women's saying men think men think they should put up low low guys, I don't know about this. So it's it's I again, I have to credit Ricky for taking advantage of the social mistakes between these two groups who really have. No, there's no incentive for them to come. After each other right now, the men have no reason to target the women. The women have no reason to target the men except that Ricky is is making them target each other essentially, so good on Ricky and bad on them. Because it's a very big brother is not the game to be like things are. Awkward, and I'd rather not talk about it. So I'd rather just let them go home. I wonder if any of it also could be the subconscious subconscious like Jonathan is a juicier target. We could just get him out now. And I know that I don't I don't necessarily see any of them thinking in terms of like keeping him around as a shield as much, but I I'd it'd be it'd be difficult if you're playing a game, and you know, that it's so short, and they're so few people you might as well try to get some people offers. I mean, that's that's certainly a possibility. But I think I think given the fact that they were perfectly willing to work with Jonathan at the start of the week to now they're not willing to I think, it's I think it's less. The fact that he's a big target and more just that like I don't like him anymore. Like, I feel like he's against me. I feel like Ricky told us that he wants to nominate us. So I'm not I'm not a big fan of that. I mean, I think that really if you're looking at this from the perspective of Lolo Natalie, and especially Tamar, candy, actually is the bigger threat to them if they can get on the same page with these guys who desperately want to work with them than than candy is the person who actually doesn't like the women and would come after them. Whereas these guys if they want h h would probably not they would still probably be after Tom and Kato. So it's interesting to think about and again, I think Ricky deserves a lot of credit here for for instigating this stuff between these two groups. So we have. Natalie speaking of Tom, Cato, Cato, Tom Lolo and Natalie are going to confirm their deal that we talked about last night. That happened to the previous night. You know? Hey, we're good with each other. We're going to keep each other safe. Everything's gonna be fine. And they're like, all right. Good. We like this. And then they talked about math, and it was bad. Yeah. I Tom you said Ricky is instigating a lot of this that he's definitely benefitting Tom Cato, also benefiting my all of the different groups going at each other. And I think it'll be interesting to see if it ever does come to head between Ricky on one side and Thomas essentially on the other who would win out in that scenario because I do think Ricky probably has more pull their, but Tom has a little bit more game savvy. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting to me is that this group had they worked together or even if they can still pull together and work together, they should be the ones controlling the game. They have the majority, and this is this is a situation this season where the quote, unquote, outsiders are seemingly going to be the ones that the gather up all the power largely because of what Ricky's doing and because Tom is savvy enough to recognize the opportunity, so we have base. These these two Lolo Natalie and Tamar versus Jonathan Joey. And Ryan they're battling it out low low and Natalie have given up the middle ground to Tom and Ricky and their ilk. So that's that's not great for them. But it's it is great for Tom and Ricky because now Tom is recognizing. Hey now, there's candy who doesn't like the women. She's easy to pull in. Maybe I should go talk to her. There's Ricky who's still kind of a alone wolf we can work with him as well. We've got myself where we've got this deal with the women and Jonathan's being taken out and the women are going to be betraying the men's of the men are going to go after the women. So everything's looking great for Tom. And he's playing it exactly how he needs to and just low key enough that it's working for him. So this this sort of outsider group that that wasn't the initial like, hey, let's all get together and hang out, and I didn't even mention. China who is obviously very close with Kato in there for close with Tom. So things are looking up for these for these guys and they recognize it. Yeah. And if John goes home, then Dina has no one else to flock to so she probably would stick with Cato in that scenario, and I'm not sure what Joey and Ryan would necessarily do. But if they're if they get screwed over by the girls, they're probably not as likely to go back to them exactly especially especially without Jonathan there. I can't see Joey wanting to work with them or them wanting to work with Joey the fact that Jonathan will be leaving. Instead of Joe even though Dom Tom did as we'll talk about consider taking Joey out instead. You know, things again things looking looking good for these guys. So Natalie Lolo and Tamar they are going to have Jonathan and Ryan separately. Come and talk to them again. Like, hey, guys. Like seriously, though, what do you want Ryan in particular like? Do like what are you? What are you think I should do guys? And they're just like, I don't know. Ryan, do whatever you want. And then he's like. And so he leaves and Lolo is like, oh, man. I really have a hard time with this because I really do like Ryan and feel bad about what we're doing. And then Natalie has to be like, no remember he wanted to put you up. He's playing us. You know, you know, what this is is they're coming in here. Trying to get you to volunteer yourself. That's what's happening. That's what's happening here. And so again, these breakdown in communication Bill with the suspicion that Ricky is injecting into them is is really not great for them. So that's that's happening there, and then Jonathan and Ryan are going to talk to Joey about. Okay, Joey, so. We're thinking that maybe you should be nominated and Joey makes the most comical agreement face, which is like just the most exaggerated frown. Yup. I got. Okay. I agree. I should go up. Yep. Definitely. I mean, he's he doesn't exactly fight it. So he he he he agrees pre. He's. So clearly, not okay with it. But he's just like, yeah. Yeah. Totally totally cool that it's my that's my bro- heartbreaks that you're betraying. But yeah, no, I'm good. I don't even care about this game. It's okay. He knows he's a pong. Is there safety to look his face? I can't even come close to doing it. I can't make my mouth turn that much. So he says that's fine. We're going to have the veto ceremony. Kato dozen facts use the veto on Tom and Joey does go up as the replacement nominee, Tom talks to candy afterward. He she's feeling a little bit upset, and you know, the whole situation. She's like these women I don't like what they're doing. They're just listening to Samar. And I just feel like I'm on the out candy is just like wonderful like she's just so easy to pick up right on. Nobody is talking to candy. Nobody cares about her. So we got Ricky and Tom the only two people that are really putting in work with her. I mean, Joey is a little bit as well. But he's focused on the, bro. So you got Tom. He's trying to comfort her he saying don't worry about it. I'm working to help you out this week. Doing exactly what he should be doing somebody who's on the block who's not going to be going home is not somebody that you'd just be left alone. Because they're the easiest people to pick up. And and that's that's what Tom is doing here. Yeah. Tom, Tom is one of the only people who recognize is the fact that like if they can spin it in a way to make it seem like they are saving candy when in most likelihood, she's not going home. So he's he's doing he's doing good work. Yes. And he also thinks that she's easier to be in competition. So no reason not to keep her around on your show case. Yes, she's she's perfect. She's perfect for any lions. The only the only thing that should prohibit her from being in your alliance is if you happen to have tomorrow on your lions, that's the only thing. And if you do have tomorrow on your lines, you'd better just get her out because she's never going to work with you. But everybody else super easy person to pick up here. So we then had Ricky and Lolo Ricky's going to again work. Some little snake magic here. Lolo Ryan he came up to me. And he said he wanted to nominate you, but don't worry. I shut that down. I I made sure that didn't happen and Lola's. What's ryan? Not happy. Which I mean to my to my knowledge Brian did discuss that. So it's. Yeah. Saw. Episode. And he did actually again have a conversation with Ricky where he was like man, I don't even know can only put up three people. What are you think? Maybe I should put up Lolo. These these guys are just trusting Ricky for no reason, and he's completely screwing them over. Yeah. I think it's pretty obvious that he's not with it. I don't I don't know what Ricky is doing to make them think that he's also with the guys. Yes. This. Don't they don't get it. They don't get how to play which I look, it's understandable. Because this is the first week of the game and very few of them are familiar with anything about the game. Denki sling had a rough week one. The doctor will had a really rough week one. You know, everybody has rough week ones. But this is this is a bad one. This is definitely a bad one. Well, I mean, there's one thing to overplay, and there's another thing to not know the game. But somehow doing both they're playing too hard. But also just missing a lot of stuff happening. Well, here's the thing. I feel like I feel like Jonathan in particular has fallen victim to the fear mongering of the Shannon. Overplay? I feel like he wanted to go in and play low key. But then he was put on the block immediately. So he was like I can't play LOKI I need to make sure I'm safe. So he put together this alliance and to make sure he was safe. And he was like okay now, I'm gonna play low key. And it's like, no that's not how it works. That's not how it works. So you need to stay on top of these people. And he's just not staying on top of these people. He's just kind of like he's trying to just hang out and not play hard because he doesn't want to be seen as the Shanti doesn't want to be seen as a person that's playing hard. But you need to play hard again. Ross is the one that was playing hardest last season. It's when you are bad at playing or when you. Play hard enough that like if you if you take the half measure and you start playing hard and then back off that's the worst of all worlds, you he needs to play harder. He needs to be more on top of people. He's talking to Tom and Kato. He needs to be talking to the women hanging out with more people than just Ryan, and Joey, but he's not he's just like Chillan just in his jacket like guys what's a. I mean, he mentioned a couple times throughout the day. He seems slightly worried. Like, he I don't think he's if not even like feel super comfortable, and that's why he doesn't need to do it. Yeah. A lot of people are like it was Dina. It was trying to save Dina. That was the downfall of Jonathan. Absolutely not. It was not talking to the women after saving Dina is saving. Dina was the correct move in the same way that not putting Joey on the block would have been the correct move. But the problem is that after you saved Dina you can't then just like we're good now don't need to talk to the women anymore. You go in. And you're like, hey, like, what did you think? They're like, well why why didn't Dina go on the block? Like, oh, I mean, I suggested to Ryan the maybe we shouldn't put up DNA. But it was so quick. We only had thirty minutes. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, it was it was a tough thing. I'm sorry that we didn't have time to consult you like if you have a conversation about it. It's fine. They would have been fine. But they had no conversation about it. That was the mistake that was the air because he was not playing hard enough. He was just like, okay. I did it now I just want to chill. I don't want to have to play too hard. I don't have to do too many things. That's where that's where it all went wrong. And you know, it's. You know, it's it's it's on it's unfortunate. Because you know, I feel like his legacy is going to be that he played too hard. When I again, I think it's the opposite. And I think that we're going to find more people in the future who washed the first two episodes of big brother celebrity and be like, I don't wanna play too hard like Jonathan. It's like, no, no you wanna play harder than Jonathan. That's that's the way to do. It. You got Ricky who's who's playing a just the right amount of hardness who is talking to everyone and planting seeds and doing these things. So that's that's what you gotta do and his his low key idea playing the game would have worked cutting up in forced into the spotlight. Yes. That's that's correct as well. And it should be like we're going to we're going to be very hard on Jonathan over the next few days, especially as the probable, I put here. But it is. It is definitely worth pointing out that again, he was probably never going to be nominated. No matter who won h h the fact. That he was put on the block and was forced into this position. Definitely really killed off his game before he could ever. Really learn how to play it. So you gotta give him some some leeway here. However, the decision he's made after being put on the block have not been. It's basically like the second. He got put on the block. He started making bad decisions right before then he was making great decisions. But then you got put on the block started making bad decisions. And what are you going to do, you know? That's again, you're put in such a tough position knowing very little about how to play this game. He was he was aware of the game. But he was not a superfan. He was not like a person. I feel like most of these people would not have been able to handle it. So what are you gonna do? Well, it's great for my power rankings. If he leaves. So low low and Natalie are they are concerned they do again, they have it in their head. Like we did like Jonathan. We do like Ryan is Ricky playing us. If thank you think maybe that Ricky is lying to us. And we're being set up here. Nah, nah. We believe Ricky close. Ricki Ricki has our best interests at heart. He's everything. He's been telling us has been has been on the up and up here. So that's that's basically they do have some doubts, but they do believe Ricky they are concerned about tame. Are they think that this is not as not great? They don't know how to deal with her and candy and this whole thing. So with that in mind, they feel like candy should be the next person they go after I think they might have some difficulty with that. And they're going to find that out next week. But they want candy out next Jonathan I the are worried about Samar, and they for the most part do believe Ricky that's the status update for low low and Natalie. And this is the I mean, I don't I don't know because I haven't seen her as much on the feeds, but. What's the main reasoning behind? Why Natalie and Lolo wouldn't rather work with candy, then taymor? I think that they just bonded with tame our first, and and that's basically now they've they've found that they've chosen aside. I mean, we still don't know his games which sides. Yeah, you've got to we still don't know why candy is on the block. So I maybe something happened that split candy from that group. She was never as much part of that group as as tame our was. Taymor had to be the one to bring candy in. So I think maybe they just didn't vibe with her. Maybe they just didn't get along with our very as well as Martine Mars seems pretty close with them. So I think that's basically it. Yeah. We had Ryan and Joey Ryan is telling Joey. Think we made a mistake. I feel like maybe shouldn't a nominated you maybe should nominated low low. I don't know about this like, yeah. Didn't you see my face before? I knew this. This was going to be a mistake. Because here's the thing. Ryan heard Kato telling Lolo after the veto ceremony. It worked perfectly. I don't know. I feel like that. Maybe isn't a great sign. Maybe I don't know. What do you think? If I was Joey I would just walk out of the room. You know, what I'm done with you plan the block, and you've gotta go talk to someone else. I don't wanna hear this. Yes. Tom Cato also have a conversation about well. Right. Dumb for putting Joey on the buck. What a strategic error. Says one point he does consider. Okay. So we know that DNA wants to Jonathan to stay maybe we should just take out Joey instead of Jonathan there one in the same. They're all allies. We can maybe appease DNA, if we do that it's an idea that they considered, but ultimately wasn't really explored too much. And then they also talk about how Ricky seems to be for the most part by himself. He somebody that they can potentially work with trying to protect a little bit. And then candy as well as someone that that they can potentially pull in. So really liking what Tom is doing here in the way that he's thinking about things, he's definitely he's the most. So Ricky is the most effective person in this house so far that I've seen in that he is doing things that are causing things to happen and positioning himself. Well, Tom is the person? That's seems the most cerebral in that he can see what's happening the most and. Understands what he needs to do to to make it work for him. So I really looking at the two of them here as as some big threats here at the at the start of the game. Yeah. I mean as long as people don't figure Tom out. But I think they I mean, he's already up on the block for a reason. I think they are seeing him as a smart player. He's just benefited by the fact that he's got several people working for him. And he's making really good alliances or really good bonds should say, yeah. I mean, I think that Tom is the kind of person where if this week had been a normal non weird week than he probably would have just been snuffed out in in the first week. He would have been a target. There would have been one at one veto competition. It wouldn't have been used. Tom would have been voted out over mooch and would have been the end of things, but he got a second wind much like our recent survivor winner. And now now be thanks to Ricky and Tom's zone. You know, maneuverings I think he is in one of the best positions in the house and people are not looking at him anymore because they're focused on each other. Because they can't communicate almost like, and this is probably the mentioned before. But in a lot of these games, especially big brother, though, if you're on the block the first week, and you stay that's probably one of the best positions. You can be in and out. I mean, it's terrifying for that first week, but the payoff might be worth the risk in the long run. Yeah. So we then have Jonathan and Ricky Jonathan is going to campaign for Ricky's vote. He says, hey, your vote might be the deciding factor, I need you. And here's the thing. If you vote with me, you helped me stay then you'll have myself, Joey and Ryan all working to protect you basically just calling out his own alliance. These men are going to continue to campaign to Ricky and just pump him full of all of their worst information. His Houston thing the reality is that these men do want to work with the women. They they want this alliance to work. They don't want to betray them. That's the reality. The reality that they're selling Ricky is that they're distancing themselves from the women because they're trying to tell Ricky that. Hey, we won't work with the women. We'll work with you. Instead because the women aren't giving us anything Ricky is giving them little tidbits. Like, oh interesting, which is more than the women are giving them and. So they're selling Ricky something that is not reality something that is much worse than reality from the women's perspective. And then Ricky's able to run that back to the women and inflame their suspicion of the men and then again the cycle continues. And it's all it's all bad for them. This is this one on one for how not to play big, brother. It's great. I mean, people people been talking about if the game is going slow, so far I wouldn't say, it's it's it's slow. There's definitely a lot of things happening. It's just a little more confusing in trying to follow LVN piece. It all together. And I will say I was concerned with Jonathan leaving that the maybe not enough people are playing the game. Not the case don't need to be concerned about that with Ricky in full all the way with Tom there with I think candy who is going to be overlooked for a little while. I think I think she could be a force toward the end. And then you've got these sort of like to blundering. Gender alliances that are kind of like bumping into each other being controlled by the outside forces. I think this is I think this is a good setup here. So I'm pretty excited. I didn't want to see Jonathan and Ryan like run the game. Anyway. Right. Yeah. I mean. Why would have happened? You know that would that would be like like Haley infacy running the game. Which what is which Mets Mary Jonathan is Haley and Ryan, especially. Makes sense then Ryan's in love with Jonathan. So it all works. Yeah. Who's Joey though? That's what we gotta figure out. I don't know. We'll see if he drinks out the pots and pans. He's raw. Yeah. He's rockstar. Oh my God. It's perfect. Wow. This. I think this is actually pretty good analogy. I think I think they all work in their own ways. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then I mean, I don't know if Tom is going to if he's the Tyler. But I don't think he is. I think Ricky Tyler. Yeah. I don't I don't know if there is a Tyler here. Unfortunately. All right. So we also have tame mar and Natalie taymor is going to again pitch. Hey, guys. I feel like we're getting played here. I feel like Ricky is lying to us potentially. And maybe we should not be going after these guys. I don't think they're after us. I think we're getting played and candies the mastermind behind it, all she's she's maneuvering everything she talked to Ricky, and she got Ricky to convince us that we need to go after Jonathan. But Jonathan is not coming after us. We shouldn't go after Jonathan we should go after candid, Kenny, you believe that's the thing that we need to do we need to get candy out of this house. I like this potential scenario that she's talking about though. I mean, if that was the case great. I mean, she she's close, right? She just thinks that candy is behind Ricky. But it's actually Ricky. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing is like if candy makes it through this vote. She she definitely is going to be like she's going to have more power in the future. But has nothing to do with the reasons are thing like and no one, even if this was the case, no one would believe it because of the history of the Jimmy momentum way. And that's that's what should keep saying. She's like, no, I'm telling you onto something. But you keep dismissing it because of my personal beef. We candy. But no, I'm right. And it's like, you're almost right? But you are influenced by your beef with candy. So she had if she had been able to just keep that a little more under wraps and still use it as her motivation. But just without everyone knowing that it probably would have worked better. Yeah. She does like the she gets Natalie and Lolo thinking like maybe we are getting played. Maybe we should just go talk to Jonathan. But at the end of it, all they just go. No, she's just influenced by candy that we we're not going to do that. We trust Ricky Ricky's a good guy. So so it all it all blows over taymor. Does get into an argument with Ricky that we did queue up at the start of this update. The argument is that she says, hey, I saw you talking with candy in that room. What were you talking about? Ricky says I wasn't. It was never gonna room candy. I wasn't talking to candy. What are you talking about? And she's like. What? No, no, no. You're not going to. I saw you leave that room. He's like what what I don't don't don't be playing like this. I saw you leave that room. Because like I mean, I think that maybe I walked into that room. And nobody was in there. And so I came right back is that what you mean? No, nope. Eye candy was in that room. She was not in that room, though. Candy. No don't be doing this to me. And he said don't be doing this to me what was happening here. What's going on? In an estimate. It doesn't it doesn't exactly get resolved. Either. Like, most of these so far it basically it like escalates escalates gets to a crescendo and then just vanishes. And then they sit silent in the room for like, thirty minutes. And then they both get up. And then they eventually come together and talk again and Ricky's like look seriously, though, I wasn't in the room. So I can't believe this. He eventually realizes this is not going to go anywhere. And he's like, okay. Look. I apologize. If I have not handled this properly, and if I am doing anything to make you upset I wasn't in the room with candy. But I I'm sorry that this has gone the way that it's gone. I really don't want anything to to blow up between us. So I apologize and taymor is like, okay. Okay. And then he leaves and she's like now. See that's the thing. This is why I'm saying that candy can't do anything to fix the situation with art. Because even if you apologize tomorrow is not going to believe it, you basically, I am pretty convinced. The Ricky is telling the truth here that he was never in the room with candy. And so if that's the case like he basically the only way for him to solve this situation is to lie to her and say, you know, what you're right. I was in the room with candy and then make up a conversation. I don't know. I don't know what else to do in that spot. I don't know. I mean, this complicates. If this continues to be an issue between them probably over. But if it continues to be an issue, you got imagine at some point Ricky is going to just decide are going with the candy side of things. I mean, that's I mean, that's like it's what they keep talking about. But you know, what are you gonna do Tae? Mar does come down from this. Eventually she she talks to Ricki again a little bit. You know, we're will. She also talks with Natalie and says, you know, what I really need to fix this Natalie this this candy situation, we need to we need to make it. So it's not as awkward and Natalie. I think is a little bit skeptical, but happy to hear the tame Mars willing to make an effort. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's not the last time. We have that same conversation. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's a messy house here. It's a messy house. All right. So I mean, that's that's basically what what happened yesterday moving into today and the eviction tomorrow it's looking like Jonathan is in a lot of trouble here. He does not have the votes to stay. However, given how close Natalie and Lolo have come to changing their minds about this over the course of this day. I don't think the Jonathan is completely out yet. And I don't think it has anything to do with him. I think it has everything to do with taymor and candy. And so tomorrow might be able to convince Natalie and Lolo to go after candy instead. And there might they might eventually go to Jonathan and clear up. These miss communications if that happens, then these two groups could come back together and take candy out. And then they would be pretty significant force in the house. So watch out for that. That is not off the table quite yet. But. Not particularly likely at this moment, given communicating I just don't see tame are really being able to sway this vote. I think that it seems right now she's more resigned to like, okay? I'm voting for candy because I want to. But it's not even like she's running around saying, you know, we're not going to be in alliance ever if you don't vote this way. Yes. And I'm kind of I'm kind of hoping the miscommunication stays stays put unlike in this house configuration here, I don't wanna see the big alliance reform. So let's let's see what happens. Let's see if Ricky and Tom can keep them away from each other. And we'll see we'll see how it goes. In. The meantime, Tom's just in front on the feeds. So you just want to watch the they really the feeds really love him in the show does. I mean, they're kind of just giving into whatever he wants to do. Yes. He he likes to do some late night shows for us. Yeah. Yeah. House tours. Late night shows. Indiana Jones impersonations route the stuff going on really great and playing the keyboard, which I just think it's ridiculous that they're allowed to have keyboard in this house. But what are you gonna do? All right. So that is our life. You'd up update for the day. We will be live tonight with our first LLC roundtable of the season. So check that out. 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Sees you know. The ring, you know. Ross said that he could do tomorrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for February twelfth. I'm turn Armstrong. And with me today is a mon-. How're you doing on? Hi taryn. Hi, everyone. I think just was school into Twitter. And I think I just saw. The ruling on the field. Delivered jerseys funny phone fingers and everything you mean for the game. But what you really get is so much more FedEx delivery game day spirit. What we deliver by delivering or someone. Today is the anniversary for rob has a podcast if that's the case happy anniversary to you Darren, and rob course arrest the rest of the H P team. Well, there you go. If it's just Bush that I'm pretty sure I thought Robb respond to that tweet. So this is like a fraudulent, you know anniversary. Well, wishing I'm so sorry, but regardless happy non anniversary if not all right? Sounds good. Here to update you on everything that happened on the big brother celebrity to live feeds yesterday. We do have some stuff to update finally the veto was plagued. So we have an update here. We're also going to get into low lows game across the whole three weeks of two. So we'll talk about Lolo as well. Try to find some value in what she's done. I'm sure there's something somewhere. I mean, I mentioned I picked she's the last meeting room or other draft that I mean, so you know, I'm gonna author try. Optimistic as possible. So that I can feel good about her winning. Yeah. That's too because they wanted to do. So let's get into the day. I first of all. Candy and Lolo got into a little bit of a thing the previous night where candy talked to Lolo about how Lolo has votes in the end she can win and Lolo got very mad about this. Like, no, I I don't have votes. What are you talking about? That's nonsense. Why would you say that? Yeah. That conversation that usually takes place a lot towards that's part of the game. Where, you know, someone's like, oh, you know, you really are someone that could have the potential to win. And of course, that's the worst thing that you want to hear because you wanna remain under the radar and a piece of me is like a piece of feels like damn what what did you actually take actual offensiveness and not like fake in game offense because you. She's such a firecracker. You just never know. Just how are he's willing to take it in terms of expressing her anger. So it was kind of it was always entertaining to watch for me. Yeah. I I love candy did not love this this move by candy to basically, let low low. No, I will not be taking you to the final two and low low is going to remember this which is very important because low low is going to end up winning this power of veto candy did not win there. It was apparently literally a hurdling competition. And you know, when I heard that, you know, my first inclination wasn't even to be of set about it being hurdles, I was more upset with Lolo because she was complaining ever since the feeds came about Phyllis. You had a hole in her chest and feeling like she was just going to die and that she'd never been through something like that before. And I'm like you are in Olympia like how are you not? How is this? The thing that takes you out. I don't I mean. But she's she's been out of practice in a in a way for the past three or four weeks, so fine. But it's just it's it's so weird to me. It's so weird. Yeah. So Lolo is going to have this this win here. And really worst case scenario for candy that low wins it, you know, even if nobody else would have used it on her. There was at least a chance that somebody else with the leverage who would have been more inclined to. To keep her. But especially given this conversation she had with the low, low, low low is very anti candy at the moment. So right away. Tame Maher is going to go go up to Lolo and she's going to. Hey, I saw candy and DNA they were slapping hands. What's up with that? Why are they slapping hands is there's something going down? Are you going to put me on the block getting voted out is that what's going on Lolo? What's happening here? No, no, no. We're good. Like, no, I really I actually really would like to get rid of candy. So now and taymor. Of course, she's she's going to feel paranoid because it's down to that point. And like, I mean, I I would feel the same way if I saw the two of them slept especially if the both of you just lost like with a slap in hand, you slapping, hands for what's what is going on. It was funny Ricky eventually comes in and they're like trying to decipher okay. What could they have meant, by slapping? Probably just happy. They're glad just to have gotten this far. Right. That's what's Crowley. You're probably going on Lillo does tell her in this conversation. You know, I wouldn't look even if I did use the veto. And you went on the block, I wouldn't vote you out. Definitely a red flag here for taymor. Yeah. It should clue her in. But I think that she's just she's just so fixated on not wanting to be on the block and knowing that she's made it this far. And all she has to do is make it to the final four, and they can play in the final three h h that, I guess take certainly things that should be clothing you in your kind of willing to silence those alarms in your head because you're that close. But it should definitely like like you really like. You have to think about who you can be. Can you beat Lolo you beat Dina? Can you be candid? Can you beat Ricky like who do you who do you want to sit next? I know that we know that she wanted little when the Beato she has some of the power right now, she was kind of acting like she had like more than she usually does last night. But. You have to start thinking about that too Justice as think Lolo thinking about who she should be you have to do the same. Yes. So taymor talks to Ricki. And she is talking about how it's clear the low low doesn't want candy to stay. But Ricky do we really want deana to win? This thing. Do we want to be in the final four this? We want that to represent our season. Taymor is going to spend a lot of the night. Very clearly campaigning for his candy to stay trying to pretend that she's not campaigning for candy to stay and. I'm all about I really want her to succeed. Even though it's probably not the best thing for her game. Like if she really wants to take candy to the final two, but you know, I stopped rooting for strategy a long time ago. Just just keep candy ass. Yeah. I mean this. This was not the season for Mr. Terry. This is not your season. But. Honestly, I guess I've come around to DNA sort of taking this as well. I mean, don't at me bitches. I'm sorry. But like, I you know, I sort of see I can make a case for all of them at this point. Like, I really wouldn't be that upset if any of them one sure there are people that I would like to see when more than some of the others. But you know, like, I'm for candy staying if she goes, so be it. If demons stays until the end and end up winning this in the final do so be it if they Mark and somehow get herself in the final two and wins. So be it. You know, like, I'm it's I'm along for the ride. I concur with your with your sentiments. It's not the best move for candidates. They into in terms of team orders game. But you know. I think one of the outcomes I think would be really fun is if if tame mar got to the final two and she. Obviously I want candy to him. But if she can't because she has to cut candy. She cuts candy at the final four takes Lolo. And then and then like makes this big speech about like I had to make myself not liked. So that people would want to take me to the end. A big fan of this game. If she comes out with like a big speech that wins the game. I'd be I think that would be pretty fun. I think that would be like a nice somewhat strategic ending. Yeah. I think that's something that she's capable of doing. Because I mean taymor hasn't had a lot of power in the game in terms of like Kant win. So we don't really see. I mean, she's she won. She just wanted to we don't necessarily see her, you know, enacting a lot of plans like she's social issues been covering her basis. But it would be interesting to see just what she would do because she does understand the game. She came into the game with a lot more understanding of how it works than her than her peers. So I think it's something that she is capable of thinking about and actually doing so we'll see I mean. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind that I think it'd be a bad s way to end the season. And I think that it will be hard people be hard pressed to be like, oh taymor. Never deserved the worst. She just you know, she did the she made the final move. She got. She got rid of Casey if want to me gets rid of Casey. And then pulls the Dan geese Ling, which is make compelling revisionist history and your final two speech that tricks. The jury like that would be so much fun. Exactly. I'm I'm down for that. So so tame are saying that she wants candy is she's trying to imply that candy is the better person to stay to Ricky. She says that Lolo clearly wants candy gone. But so she needs to have a talk with Lolo and Ricky's like. Feel like that's probably not your best move right now. You don't know piss her off that's going to turn into a thing. She's got the veto. Maybe maybe hold off on that. And a little like very much reminds me of the conversation. Ricky had with Tom about talking with tame, mar and taymor is like, hey, I can handle it. It's. It's Tom Ricky really is a all last night. He kind of just. He's like one of my favorite gifts of that guy. You want to do that. Deal with taymor all season long. They were the bedroom alliance. So he's pretty pretty pretty keen on how she might respond to certain situations. So it was very amusing to watch him pretty much walk around eggshells and sort of between a rock and a hard place because the Lolo can be the exact same way Lolo in taymor are two sides of the same damn coin. So. You know, him trying to stay above the fray, but also just have enough influence his best interest. Workout is is interesting manipulation and gameplay to say, the least I actually I actually feel like he's doing a pretty good job here. Because if you think about it heading into this veto as I've been talking about in the updates. Lolo has kind of been drifting away from wanting to take Ricky to the file to taymor has been talking with Lolo more about taking her to the final two. I do think taymor would probably go with Ricky over Lolo. If candy was was not there. But, but it's you know, these are two players that I think that if they fight with each other today the day before the finale the day before they make that decision. They're less likely to take each other to the end because they care about who they sit next to they keep talking about like not wanting people like Dina to represent their season. And so if Ricky is able to stay neutral between the two of them and have the good feelings of both of them while they battle it out on the side. Then then they are both more likely to be like, screw Lolo. She she got mad at me for wanting to keep candy. I'm gonna take Ricky and vice versa. So I actually do feel like Ricky is is. Is having a pretty decent job here doing pretty? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he essentially is keeping taymor cold. But also letting willow Nola glow you one. So whatever you wanna do that. It's your decision to make and the really isn't much that we can say, so it's it's your decision. And at least I mean at the end of this conversation that left Lolo with, you know, with the general notion. Okay. Well, I'm going to sleep on it. I'm gonna play on it. And I guess we'll we'll talk again tomorrow morning. So if this, you know, eventually makes Lolo just ponder and ponder mourner head, and she ends up doing something that team are wouldn't want her to do in getting rid of candy and sparks fly. I mean, Ricky sitting pretty he can, you know, use that to his advantage in think that that's I mean, it's a it's it's also this whole thing about Dino being there visited of this season. Honestly, I have Dina won this game. We would never see her again like Meriva short Meriva is the Representative of celebrity big brother season one and other bits. You will continue to be their Representative of celebrity big brother in. We'll see here come back to host comps. She'll be back on the Facebook chat. And all that stuff. I don't think I don't see Dina ever really come back. That's see her winning. It'd be okay by I'm gonna go. Find my catfish live my best life. No, she she's such a mom. I could see this being like very much like Murray. So like, hey, look, this is my thing. Now like if she wins. I think if she loses she's gone, but I do think she might be around if she if she wanted. Maybe maybe I just I just find her so low key that I don't think that this is her a gig. Honestly, I mean, I could be wrong. But. I guess we just have to wait and see if she wins. I do. But I do think that she would be a good representation of like for the like she's been one of the most positive people on the show with such a negative season. I do think it would be nice. She's she's definitely the least polarizing character and has a game player. She's very polarizing people. That were like, hey, I don't she hasn't done anything. So we were like, oh, no. She's done the perfect game. She's saying she's you know, she's got all the way to the end. She coasted she floated or whatever. So in terms of gameplay, no in terms of a person issuer chart because that's that's really what they're talking about. But obviously be would be the best Representative of the season. I think we're all clear about that. So Lolo talks to Ricki. She says that she really wants candy gone. She knows candy won't take it to the final two. And she has the days down can't he's been studying. And so she's a bigger threat in the final four. So she's considering using the veto on DNA to make sure that candy goes home putting up taymor next to candy. And then they can make sure that they vote to evict candy Ricky's says. I don't know tame Mars going to like that. They do have a conversation with taymor and little. Let's taymor know what she's thinking taymor is very anti on the block. I don't like that idea yet. She she's I've no problem vote can be oh that said candy Dina's come close to winning comps some more than candy has so something to consider Lola's. Yeah. But can't better days. And that's what's coming up. Okay. Okay. But but Dina winning the game that would really suck. Right. That would really suck and little but wouldn't candy winning suck too. And yeah. Right now, it's up to. So they kind of the kind of have a bit of a stalemate here. And they decide as he said, let's just think in pray on it and talk about it in the morning. Yeah. It was it was it was a ping pong match. Because I was I was sitting I was last night washing. This all go down while blinking Horsely. And I remember like after the home shows sort of died down. I was like, wait. So what what are they gonna do? I it was really hard for me to to ascertain the the end goal be summation of that meeting. But lows. Lows them pray. And I guess she talks to God. And whatever God tells you to do this morning, she owned it. So now, we wait. I guess that's that's really what we ended the day with here. We'll probably get a better understanding of who's going to be going home. It does seem very much like it is going to be candy at the moment. Lolo does have a lot more leverage. Really what it comes down to is. If tame all wants to force the issue needs Ricky on her side, and if Lolo is not going to use the veto, she probably will need to get some confirmation from both at least, Ricky and taymor marb. But at least Ricky that they will be voting to Vic candy, and I don't think that Ricky would be willing to go against his word for the sake of candy. So it seems difficult to find a scenario where candy stays unless taymor is able to. Convince Rickie enough that the two of them are able to convince Lolo that they need to keep candy doesn't seem particularly likely right now. But it's not completely out of the cards quite yet. Yeah. I guess work on work on the one that's more inclined to agree with you or has more reason or is more malleable on and then work with the most rigid part of a triangle of and I mean. As far as the way the things have been going on. Now. I just feel like another visit Beatles coming up. So that changes the dynamic. But I I I agree. I really don't think that there really is enough time for them to to really convince I don't even know if team working really convinced me Ricky at this point. I just think that I mean, they all three of them have been slants for so long now. And I think if there's two people that are already leaning more towards one way that it's probably wanna sick that way. Because you know at this point in the game. It's just you got get to the end gets to be in the end. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you know, low low has the leverage here and really it's not in any of their best interests for candidates day. Lolo is completely right. They candy knows the days a lot better than DNA. Does. She's been studying a lot more. I think she is a lot more capable of winning that final HOA JR. And if either Dino or candy win the final h all three of them lose the game hands down. So they should go with the person who's less likely to win the competition. It is again in in Lola's best interests in Ricky's best interest, and in taymor is best interest that candied those not stay in the game. But. You know, that doesn't mean that look these players they're not that great. So yes. Yeah. It's so interesting because I thought about candy being able to win, and I was like, it's very it's sort of similar some Orissa in that they both have not won any competitions. But now it's like that kind of game can work for so many people. But sometimes you have to match your your social game with at least one or two confidence. Sometimes you can't get all the way to the end without getting some power on your hands. And I think if we see candy go home that's pretty much. What her story will be it sucks? But you know. And something else to consider especially after last night the episode. I think was I talked about this last night. I do think that it was kind of bad for Lolo. It was a lot of Lola's worst moments. I think it was kind of good for taymor and Ricky who who had some some good moments rookie was a little less visible. But but I still think he came off decently. Well, and this was kind of confirmed a little bit in the social media. I think we I saw a Jonathan. He liked a tweet that said anybody Lolo previously. It had been no negative about K, mar. And he was negative about like, it seems did seemed like Jonathan was most negative toward taymor and Ricky, however now he's liking tweets about anybody. But Lolo that episode again, probably reminded him of when he was betrayed by low low, and she cried about it and all this non. Sense. That was super annoying could have had an impact. Also, I saw the first Kato inclination here. Also, very anti Lolo specific after the episode air immediately after the episode aired so KEDO I think is exactly the kind of person who would be swayed, but he he goes to watch this particular episode because he knows he's going to be in it. Because the clip show, and then he sees all this stuff from Lolo that he probably hadn't really seen before. And he's very influenced. And now he's liking tweets about antilock. This could make a difference here when it comes to tame our versus low low, I think Ricky probably already was beating Lolo, but but also could make a difference there. Something else that I talked about last night and went into a little more on Twitter is that she did have an exchange with Joey on Instagram where she she tweeted something Joey found it very he was like, oh, thank you. He did a screen shot posted it on Instagram. He was like, oh, thank you. This is. So I can't believe you said this little this is so wonderful. And then in the Instagram comments Lolo Jones, the official Instagram account responded and. Yes. I was like did. I miss something in my dumb. What's going on here? So Joey says, wow, I just want to send his shadow to Lillo Jones for the kind words. Yes, you'll Lolo. They truly mean so much we had a few tense moments in the big brother house. That's for sure. But you're an honorable person. And I respect your passionate, faith and your unrelenting fire to compete zone and so forth. Good luck. And God bless and his final round game. Play Lolo Jones response. I genuinely meant every word and apologized for these tents month for the tense moments. Not everyone will know the moments we had we did have is a house, and that's okay. I appreciate your words. Cry cry emoji, pardon Mogi. Lolo Jones first of all can't use Instagram. She can type things out that are sent on Twitter, not Instagram, obviously, not allowed to view any comments made by anybody outside of the house. So she lives. There's no way that she could have responded to this. I thought maybe I missed something. Maybe something happened that other people would be able to explain nobody is able to explain this my explanation. The only thing that I can think of that. I did talk about last night is this has to be the person running low lows Instagram account impersonating Lolo. To solidify Jerry votes. And why in? Why on God's green earth with Joey not realize? Three you on Instagram in the house doing look you have access to any of your DM's any of your mentions on Instagram. Guardians house seared. What the hell is going on? I love this. I find it. So funny. And you know, what you know what kudos to win a little account. I might need you to run mush it. Obviously, you are way better at it than I am. Is that's that's while. That's really well. I was like Instagram. What was it like it was pay part of her veto win? Was it come like? I know. That's what I was thinking five minute Instagram package. Like, I don't understand. That's that's very that's very strange. I guess it's clear to say that gratin area is now like the final jury member and swaying jury back and forth. And I mean on one, and it's sort of like disappointing because you're just you get so used to the regular version of the brother, and oh, no they need us. They can't even though poison them. The Nikkei can't everything, but that's just how this version of the game works, and this might inform a lot of their future players. Like, look like they're going to watch this back and see it not only that. But there are going to be edited clips there's going to be a clip show. Eventually be the best part of that clip show. Don't be the worst partly you don't wanna piss too many. People off in. It's it's just another layer of g I guess, I feel like this is one of my few social media posts where I feel like because I posted the screen shot of it on Twitter. And I felt like if I want if I wanted to be incendiary, and I wanted this to go like just get really big. I could have I could've made like a Lolo Jones cheating and like all of the casualties have been so confused. They would have been fire. It would have been controversy. But. I just I couldn't I couldn't do it. I to be to be less crazy about it. But this does wonder petty. You I'm selling you. Anybody post this on the Facebook group, or whatever you will it will blow up. It's yours. It's yours to do. Wait on their next fix to be to be pissed off. Yes, exactly. So in this did make me wonder has Lolo Jones been posting a lot of like kazlo has been tweeting. A lot of things that are directed at people. She tweeted at Jonathan like, oh, I love you. I'm sorry for the way. Things went in the house. Was that actually Lolo we've been thinking was because Twitter. But who knows that this? If her social media person is willing to impersonate her here, maybe they've been impersonating here, the whole time, maybe all of this social media jury work has been heard your social media manager the whole time. If so. Frocks to ever the hell she has one in her shape because that's that's that's that's masterful. I would hope it it. It's I'm like, I would I would hope that like if they if they went through the trouble of getting them in i-ipad, and then making giving them only access to one social media platform. I would hope that that will be the social media platform that they agreed to have total autonomy over. But then again, probably not because I'm pretty sure they like Jonathan was one of the first accounts to tweet, and it was him with a picture of like a mocha or some shit. And it's like where would he have gotten that picture on the ipad that they pre upload pictures? And then I paid for him to tweet out like they probably have other people on that on. I'm pretty sure I saw Tom green tweets that weren't from Tom green. When he was in the house that we're like from his I know his his Instagram promoting like his show coming up like that. So. Hey, I once again, another layer Sharad as you make sure that you know, you gotta get somebody gets you a social media publicists entered Tren. Welcome on the chat says Lillo higher. Dan, geese linked Doron or social media. All right. So there you go. That's nice little taste of of Lolo before we get into her game. But but really I did want to go over some of the jury votes that we're looking at here in preparation for the round table tonight. We'll go into more detail, but I I've been counting Ricky Natalie, Tom and Kato as Lolo votes, if she's next to tame, mar if Kato was swayed by this or maybe maybe he was tame are the whole time. But given Tom's social media likes, and such and Cato's feelings toward both of them really did seem like he was probably leaning one way. But if if if if if Lolo doesn't have Tom and Cato, then I think that taymor has a very real chance to win this one. I do think Lolo still probably has Joey. So that's important because if she does have Tom and Kato, and she has Natalie and Ricky, and she has Joey and then she's already one. But if she doesn't have Kato anymore that? She might not have Tom. And I think the field goes wide open at that point. So tame are definitely I think has has some chance here based on the social media likes. Now. I'm all about reading the social media likes. It's probably the one of the few times where you have to actually be worried about them damn likes. That's bets. Yeah. So it's been confirmed that mooch is not voting, right? Or is that in firms? I I've read it in lots of places, and it would make no sense to me that he would vote. I don't know if I've seen it directly from CBS, right? It's kind of interesting because he's probably going to be at the finale. Yes, I've heard that he's going to be at the finale, but he's not going to be one not vote. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So let's talk about Lola's game from the start to the end. Lolo she enters the house. She immediately bonds with Natalie Ricky and taymor those are her roommates. She has an Olympic connection with Ryan which sort of helps bring her into this Jonathan alliance. It is formed on night one. This Jonathan alliance is not going to last very long because she quickly becomes dissatisfied with it. She says that she is jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship. And so this leads to some tension when she flips off Ryan's picture and front of him and that leads to him being like, hey, maybe I should make a move on low low. She clearly hates us Ricky wins. The veto Ricky is the wrong person to tell that plan to Ricky runs to low and tells her Ryan's plan to potentially back door her. And at this point she's done done with the Jonathan alliance and she wants Jonathan out. Meanwhile, because of Natalie's connection to Kato they are able to come together with Tom Lolo Kato, Tom and. Natalie and they start to form a kind of one week deal to get Jonathan out and keep each other safe in the following week. They also bring Ricky and closer with them based based on his maneuvering and telling them the information about Ryan, then we also see taymor go off on candy and once taymor wants candy gone. They want Jonathan gone. This drives a bit of a wedge between taymor and the women. And so they came are who was part of that group and part of that alliance does get separated a bit for the time being here, and the sort of group of five of the Natalie Lolo, Ricky, Tom and Kato we're going to move forward into the next week as the tightest group of people working together as Jonathan gets victim. And that's week one in a nutshell. Good good jobs here. And there was really that really recapitulate and everything in my head. I I think that this this. She had me very very very very scared from the moment that she started to be in her feelings about Jonathan and Ryan, and I thought, oh, this is this is this is not good. This is the part where she decides to just blow everything up and this is going to do next year. They're gonna come after her because she is proven to be owes cannon. And then it's the usual. I can't trust you anymore. You don't even tend to trust me. So I'll have to put your s up in Bilo. But. Didn't happen. She was sort of able to make connections through Natalie and sort of infiltrate herself. And also get somebody that she wanted out out on even if not everybody that she was with agreed with it. So I think that she g definitely made a tremendous error in. I think this is kind of white gets the the the snowball of conflicts of Lolo rolling at this point and people get beginning to realize that she's a bit of a hot head. She did not the the the biggest error was flipping off Ryan, and Jonathan, but I think that it's still worked out in her favor in the end, and she navigated as well as she could give that she shot herself in the foot. Let me get go. Yes. And really, I think the takeaways I got from going over their games is that Natalie was usually the strategic driver of the pair of them. It was Natalie's connection that got them in with Tom. Kato Lolo later. We'll have a better social connection with the two of them. But Natalie was the one that initiated it Natalie is usually the one that's going to be making the moves and low lows contribution to their alliance was to bring in people that she would later betray for no reason. And as you mentioned, I think really the biggest mistake Lolo makes all season long even more than her blowups on Tom Kato is saying in the diary room. I'm jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship, and that being a very clear her being very clear motivation for this strategic game move that changes the course of the entire game. It really paints a bad light on the rest of her decisions in the game. When the first thing she does is motivated by jealousy. Jealousy. Not exactly a respected. Ovation. It was it was brilliant to why it was it was I loved watching her meltdown like this. But it's it's not good. And it you your will you paint yourself as this person that is willing to cut people for just how you feel that day, and it makes it very hard. I mean in the beginning of the game, people are more willing to you know, forgive their grievances of you. Because of the fact that they need it's a numbers game in the beginning. But people's people still remember that and I think that, you know, we'll we'll talk about it more as you progress through her game. But is she gets into so many more arguments that I think it just it's so hard to like you're gonna have to play cleanup and all season long. That's not it's not it's not fun. And it's not it doesn't really make you the best person to win the game in the end. So Jonathan leaves Kato is going to win the next h h and with Kato and power. They really solidifies this group of of four two. Five where previously the women were saying this is a one week deal, even though Tom and Cato, right? From the beginning thought that they were going to be going to the end with the women. But now that Cato's empower the women are like, oh, yeah. We are we doing to work with you more long term. And so low low is hoping that Ryan will be back toward this week. She talks to taymor about it. They had talked without her and taymor is mad because of some candy stuff. And the fact that they were talking without her in the fact that you might be going on block this is when low low entail mar get into their second fight after we we saw the clip of Natalie and low low in the final two and the punch in the throat, which is probably I don't know. They were both pretty good fights. I don't know. It's hard to choose the. I'm a big fan of the I know someone got one time to call me obation. Thank you. Well, then do it. Then say they do say, then say. I'm always a big fan of the of the of the verbal stalemate before it becomes musical. Whether like, you you got us on burst grown. We sit down sit down with somebody who had the diary room cool off a little bit about to Allison. Get your head. Right. Combat make up let's continue. Let's. The two of them are just two sides of the same. Larry is. So she's also lowest is going to encourage Ricky to work on his relationship with Tom as they solidify this this more long-term alliance with Tom and Kato Tom is expressing some doubt in Ricky and Lolo wants to get rid of that because Lola wants Ricky involved in this alliance. She gives them specific instructions Ricky carries those instructions out, it appears that they work. But it turns out maybe they didn't later on. They do solidify this alliance to move forward. More long-term end. She's also gonna talk with Natalie about how they're done with damar. They're done with her. She's arguing with her. Now, they're working with Tom and Katie when Ricky they don't need taymor anymore. They want her gone soon. In fact, if Ryan or Joey wins the veto they're voting out team taymor over Dina. That's the plan. And that's what they're sticking to. Yeah. I was I was sad about this. Because I you know, I'm I'm a big fan of taymor. She she really caters to the audience 'cause she's just a big character. And I thought that this maybe which is biased. But I thought this just wasn't a thought it wasn't smart. I was not smart Lolo because you just. Blink. Why why do people continuously warmed these alliances insulate themselves and then start chipping away at the installation. Come on. And like, you have you have to think logically about this understand that you live with these people twenty four seven this or to piss you off they do but come on like beaten. It's win. It think about your game. Like, what are you doing? They they even mentioned to themselves. You know, Dina's kind of moron Kato side kind of more on our side. But whatever we're just so we need to take her out this week if Ryan or Joey when the veto I pray I pray that if I ever and blessed enough to play this game that I am able to recognize like general annoyance in pissed off it nece if it were as it were and like bad for my game. You gotta go like, I would I would hope I mean, we see it all the time. So maybe it's kind of hard the lines get blurred for some people. And they honestly think that just because you're pissed off right now they have to go. But I would hope that someone would give me the clarity to be like look like, we know like. Like, you just gotta you gotta move past this like we can get through this like think about next week think about next week think about next week. She just was not able to do that. So luckily, though pretend mar Ryan or Joey do not win the veto and Ryan is going to be evicted here. So heading into week three before the wage. Ricky is going to spill some information to Natalie and low low about how Joey is coming for Lolo and Natalie and low low is pissed not happy with Joey how dare he he has. No right to be upset after he didn't want to be in on lions that I'd never actually proposed to him. How dare he I regret crying for Ryan. Really upset about everything there. She is. So Tom is gonna end up winning this veto sorry, this H and pretty quickly Natalie and Lolo are going to start talking to themselves about, hey. Do we really want to stay loyal to this alliance because Tom Cato, they're like really strong competitions keta just one and h Tom and nature wage. I don't know if we want to take them to the end, I don't know if that's really what we want to do. And they did have this conversation prior to Tom and Kato deciding that they wanted to go after Ricky's so this was in the works here despite what they claim. Yeah. Yeah. It's that this is horribly where they just weren't winning anything surprisingly enough. And I think it probably was like sort of like a little bit embarrassing for them just a little bit because the athletes of the house, and you're leading two of the oldest guys in there beat you in these competitions. It was like look like. This might not be the best thing for us. And I love how Ricky is continuously spilling information to low like she's like a little wind up dotting. And we just like why did you up get you all round up and set you free? See what happens? So Thomas going to eventually pitch. This back door Ricky plan to Lolo she gets pissed at him. They get into a fight. She can't believe how paranoid Tom is. I don't know why he would ever think that that they would ever turn on them. Why would they ever think that we're definitely targeting Tom now? Right. Like, definitely. So she and Natalie let Ricky no the Tom is after him, and then Joey is going to pitch to low low and the rest of them that he is now on their side is going to after Kato and Tom Lola likes this idea. She wants to keep him. They try to pretend Tom and Kato that they're still on board with everything, but it doesn't last especially after Natalie uses the veto, then you know, she and Natalie discussed again how much they don't like tame, mar they want her gone as soon as Tom and Kato league of Tom. I kate. We'll get to get rid of Tom Cato. Then KMart tamers next after that. That's what they need to do. She she will not play ball with them. They don't like that. This is also when the big blowup happens in the kitchen and acting classes things production damn out of my room. She she tells taymor about the MS Cleo comments and calls, Tom, a psycho, a terrible human being this is this is when everything goes goes crazy. This was probably the the ugliest fight. I think fights in the big brother house get particularly ugly every time it's between a man and a woman because then you get a lot of like. You just get a lot of the. The supposed- sexist, and massaging this undertone that come along with these types of arguments as much validity as you wanna give them or as you're inclined to, but it it was we'll continue to watch especially like, Tom caterina's beg on the table. And it was just like Lolo. Actress. The being caught an actress with a wars thing impo world, especially in this game. Was it wasn't. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. I I definitely did not go back to look at that. Yeah. So this this all goes down here, they need to keep Joey. So they work on her. But to no avail here taymor is going to want candy to stay and as does Tom Cato. So candy does stay Joey ends up being victimized and we head into week four where really nothing happens taymor wins the HR wage, she agrees Lolo agrees that Cato is the bigger threat between him, and Tom, and then catos addicted there really wasn't much else that went down this week beyond more. I we talked about the big blow ups from this point on Lolo is going to be trash talking most people in the house, and that's most of my notes consist of that she wasn't doing a whole lot of strategy this week. It was a very short week, and it was a very straightforward week. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was pointed that was like taymor H and everything is going swimmingly. Like, it was the least eventful HOA. Would've guessed like she wouldn't want him up, Tom. And now he's in power. She's sitting there putting the proper like come on now. But you know, that's how you do it. That's true. That's name retarget. Give them hell out of there. That was it. Yeah. So Tom and Lolo have a good conversation after Cato's victims about what he had been thinking why she's apologizing to her? He feels good about this conversation, which is which helps protect her moving forward with Tom even though she's going to media we turn around and and be like, oh, Tom was lying to me. Tom doesn't know that. So Tom after he wins H O H is wanting to keep Lolo safe. And then we have the whole meeting stuff that happens candy talks into nominating Natalie instead of Lolo that helps her as well, obviously, he does have a conversation with Lolo where they talk about her Olympic dreams. And how Tom wants Lola to win the game because he knows that she needs the money more. And he it's a very sweet conversation. Low lows later going to be like he used by Olympic dreams to manipulate me. He made fun of me for not having health care. How dare he? So this this I think really helps sell I think the overall message of Lola's game, which is that strategically there wasn't much there. Natalie was driving most of the decisions socially with her alliance members. She was okay at. Some of them. She pissed off some of them. She was okay with but she was there's again, especially in comparison to Natalie. And sometimes we'll Ricky there's something that's a little more genuine invulnerable about Lolo that attracts people to her more. So once they get to know her then people like Natalie and Ricky, and I think that was her true strength in the game. If we are to find one. But then to like that Volmer ability terrifies her and she hates it. And then so just so anytime she exposes the vulnerability in these like nice moments. She's going to turn around, and like, you know, hard enough tenfold and be mad and use it against the person that she opened up to which is her one of her main faults in the game. Is borderline. That's okay. But I mean, I agree that because of the fact that she is sort of just like out there with honours leave and sort of just kind of willing to give into with anybody people. You know, she's she's she's she's not the wolf and sheep's clothing. She's the wolf you see your coming in, you know, what's up in. I think that is as far as her alliance members. Go the ones that have already signed life over to her. She kind of she kind of you know, she can be she can use it as a good driving force to really get things moving in the direction that she wants them to. So it's that I would I would agree that her greatest strength is is her emotions. It's also her greatest weakness because all that she's using in this game. So Lolo is going to try to flip Dina this week using her barrage of insults about Tom on her. This is important because Dina's not going to have time. If she is a juror to see everything that happened on the show. And so when Lolo talks to her and tells her about how terrible person Tom is Dina does not agree with Lolo about this. She is later going to be like, Tom. I'm so sorry that these people did this to you. She's going to remember that low said these things, and so anytime, you expose your hatred to people like Dina that's not good in terms of that jury vote that said, you know, basically, everyone all three of the. Low low T taymor. Andrea have done this to different extents with Dina. So. But important to note. Tom is going to use the veto on Ricky and puts Lolo up on the block. She's of course, mad. They have this big thing about who is who is going to go home Natalie. Let's decide between the two of us. They have a whole thing. Trying to decide which one of them is going to lay down their life in the game. But it doesn't matter because candy and Dana have already decided that it's going to be Natalie Natalie is the bigger threat. Low low is a bigger jury go this is really the only reason why Lolo stays in obviously it was not exactly intentional on lo-lose part. So there you go Natalie's evicted. Yeah. I mean, if you it's never good before your chances that actually winning this game. If you survive only because people want to think, they can beat you. It's is not it doesn't really say much about your your social game. With isn't really say much about your game at all. It just means that people don't get your game. Is it? They may grow it in it. So yes, so. We head into the double fiction, obviously, we see low low win the next age OH, and she's going to target, Tom. She's going to have that moment. Again, not a good look to be on live TV and unable to nominee second nominee. So that's not good. But she gets. She gets Tom on the block taymor wins. The veto Tom goes home. She does smarten up a little bit. After Tom goes home. Ricky is going to win the next H wage, and while taymor is is various still anti Tom Ricky is kind of like, hey, let's chill on Tom. When she when Lola was with taymor. She's all about the bashing. When he when she's with Ricky, she's like a little more respectful, which is at least half and half, which is not not bad. But but again in the episode that we saw that the more visible stuff, we are reverting back to pre Tom being evicted Lolo days. And that's not a good look for her. And I think that the stuff on the feeds is going to be less impactful to the jury than that. So that's important to note. Right. I mean, I guess I guess it would be fair to say that Lolo is sort of the villain of the season. Edited. Yes, definitely I think that the editors definitely want to paint Lolo as the Bill, and I think that like it's something to be aware of that again. Like in that episode taymor plays ball with the producers. She gives them good TV Lolo is like f- CBS for letting Tom do this to me production. Get Kato out of my room. That's going to have some impact on like if they're looking at some stuff, and they're looking at like, how should we betray these people? They're going to be inclined to certain way. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's unfortunate. I mean, if you're going to be a villain of at least the be the level of it. When even though I'll kind of you'll like that breed is sort of died out right now, it's not really in the in the circle of fads in the big with the community being a lovable villain is still not good. But at least if you're going to go that route, willow, at least be self aware enough to know that you're being painted that way in just lean into it. But in a good way, but I just don't think that she really cares about me that I think she's just if she's pissed off pissed off. And that's just how it's going to be. So that leads us to where we are. Now Lola wins the veto and she wants candy gun because she knows candy will not take her to the final two and that's lows game. Again, you know, I did I tried to find the good in it. And they're just really isn't a whole lot there. I do think she can win the game. I think again, if honestly these leave the best thing she ever did in the game was for social media stuff, which might not even be her. But still still honestly points more to him up being her that anything else. But it was it's been good. It's been seriously good. She's been tweeting at specific players. I don't know why anybody else why nobody else is doing this. She is reaching out to them. She is apologizing. She is humble in these tweets. So if it is then it's good. It's fantastic. And if she wins the game, she might have that to thank because Joey vote could be essential. And and I think that Joey especially when he comes out of the house, and he realizes that. Hey, bashing Lolo gets me laughs, it would probably be inclined to not vote Lolo. But he was very touched by what she sent him. Probably and. So it's it does seem like she has his vote, and this could be very very tight vote, depending if she's up against hey, are even if she's up against Ricky. I think there's a chance she could have a chance there though. I do think freaky probably has the upper hand. So definitely the social media is a good thing. Just low low being Lola. She wants them comps. That was good. And, you know, just being I again, I think that the being just slightly more genuine than Natalie where Natalie was a little more composed in front of other people Natalie just seemed like the smarter more threatening person that was good for Lolo. So. If I'm looking at why Lolo got here. Why Lolo might win the game? These are the reasons she was less threatening. She was good on social media. And there was there's something there's there's vulnerability to her that she tries to extinguish, but can't and that appeals to people. I think so those those are the things that I think have contributed toward her potential success. And she wanna cuppa comps that. Yes, no ensured that. Other bitches went home. So yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, if if social media becomes a driving factor to her winning this game. It would just be so entertaining to see the rest of these celebrities clamoring for that damn ipad towards the end of the season with like on their apology tour like own I'm so sorry. What I said to unite one in the bathroom, I related need it. I'm sorry. Like, I'm ready for it. I. I really want in the final two questioning for Joey to be like, you know, your post really a lot to me and love is like which which. The I totally meant everything I said, I think. Like, you're you're well. You're so welcome Joey. And like I said, I'm I'm sorry. That's what we've got for you today. The round will be tonight at eight thirty pm eastern. I'm going to post the form for it on Twitter as soon as this podcast, and you can vote on who you're going to be voting for for America's favorite. You can rank all of the jury members in terms of where you think their votes are going to go we'll go through all of the different final two combinations. It'll be fun times. You can rate the players games, of course, and all all sorts of fun questions fun things to do here on the forms. Make sure you fill it out. You can find it on my Twitter page at Armstrong Taryn, I'll pin it to the top as soon as I posted, I promise. So check that out. And then I will be back tomorrow morning eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds, we will probably know at that point definitely who is going to be going home. And hopefully have a good idea of who's going to be taken to the final two. And I will also be going over the final two players who have not talked about yet who are going to be in the. Final four whether it's candy and tame mar or DNA and taymor small chance depending on who blows up today, candy and Andina so look out for that tomorrow. And then of course, tomorrow night, it's the two hour finale starting at nine pm eastern, and we will be recapping that and going over the winner of celebrity big brother two. Yeah. 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But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and MLS number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply the feeds, but I am still here. Am going to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, I promise you there just wasn't a whole lot that actually happened. So just be prepared for that. But I am here by myself something else that I want to do for you today is to to go over a little bit of Ricky's game this season that Ricky is somebody is the is the only person that we know for sure is going to be in the final four because the veto has not been played yet. So I'm gonna go over Ricky game over the course of the season. It's only three weeks long should be a quick little retrospective of Ricky's game thought that would be interesting also thought that I wouldn't want to subject anyone else to have to do this kind of research because. Game in quotation marks. Let me update you on what happened yesterday. Got messages from home until it happened and of story, basically. Got the videos from home deana did not get a video from Lindsay Lohan, she got a video from Ali, which I feel bad. Even just saying that way because I'm sure that happens a lot with Alli like, oh, not Lindsey alley o-. But I figured people would be wondering if it would if it was from Lindsey in. No it wasn't. Was basically they actually they showed it on the feeds which was nice after all of the not nice things that have been happening in regards to the feeds. So you can check it out. The clip is is out there. I don't know if maybe they are not planning on showing it in the finale or in the episode either episode, which is why they had enough beats maybe who knows. But otherwise, we're just going to see it on the episode. So you don't necessarily need to be the clip. Anyway. That happened. That was really the main event of the day. Let me tell you. There is nothing happening on these feeds Tom Green Left the house, and it's like crickets nothing is going on. I literally turned the feeds on at one point. And it was four feeds on Ricky in the gym doing some yoga pose, but his face was smashed into the floor and his impose up and he's just like just kneeling face smushed into the floor. And it was just four feeds on that. Silence. And I was like. Yeah. That that's about what's happening on the feeds. That's about it. No veto was played. I actually knew that the veto was going to be played one on Monday today. And I still got lost yesterday with my days. And I was just like it's surely is going to happen today. But no it did not happen yesterday. It's going to happen today. It's going to happen today. So we'll finally find out who won the veto at some point today. And then we'll see what what's going to happen with it after that. The only really other conversation thing that happened is that we get with more confirmation from Lolo that she is concerned about Ricky beating her in the end, I think decent odds at this point that low low does take tame are to the final two, even though she still refuses to give any kind of like, very solid promise that she will do it Lolo really really thinking that Ricky has this thing in the bag. You know? He he's so he's so well-spoken. He's though is in who how could he not win? So that's that's happening Ricky's chances of getting to the final two maybe diminishing, although Lolo may not even be there by the final four if if the veto plays out in a certain way. So that's again, really all that's going on in the house. We just have to wait until the veto plays out. If candy or Dina win, we could see Lolo leave if if Tamara wins who knows what she would do with it. I Ricky might not even try to win who knows? So some interesting stuff going on there. But other than that, it's really it. So. Unless you guys have some questions for me since it's just us. You know? No, no, no, no other parties to interfere. You can ask me some questions in the chat. Here. I've got the YouTube chat open, and I can answer any questions that you might have for me. But in the meantime, I wanna I wanna talk about Ricky because Ricky I I do think has played the best conventional game of big brother of anyone in the house. If this was regular big brother unsuccess- ter- jury were just talking about like just playing the game. I do think that Ricky has played the best. He's played the most strategically he's made some massive mistakes. I wouldn't call him a good player. But I wouldn't call anybody in the house a good player. He's probably the best of the people that we have in terms of conventional strategic positioning big brother play. And really it all starts with week one where Ricky comes into this game. He's underestimated by a lot of people in terms of how we viewed him going in a lot of people were like how's he gonna function without his? Is marijuana. He's talking about I'm watching videos of him or he's explaining that. He has like extreme social anxiety. And I'm like, well, that's not a good quality to have in a big brother house. And so he goes into the house, and he is he goes into this room this bedroom with three other women madly, low low and tame taymor, and that's gonna prove to be a good choice there for Ricky. He clearly wants to align with women. I saw somebody on Reddit talk about there was a video an interview with him where he talks about like really getting along with women a lot more than he does with guys. And I think this really really shows in his style of gameplay. He wanted to align with women, very very clearly. And so the unfortunate thing for him is that he's not included in Jonathan's big initial alliance that he creates Ricky is on the outside, and this I think. Is something that a lot of really great players have to go through in something that I usually admire player. I think to somebody like Vanessa who is on the outs of the massive alliance at the start of the game. And then weasels her way in shatters it apart and then picks up the pieces. That's basically what Ricky does this week? He certainly get some help with lo-lose volatility because there's some tension between the low low segment and the Ryan Jonathan segment of the house. And so he he capitalizes on that. He he bonds with Natalie. He makes it his goal to cause a little chaos align with the women of the house, and because of that tension he that he picks up on. He's he wins the veto. He's approached by Ryan and Jonathan who trust him enough to offer him. Proposal a proposal of hey, what if what if you use the veto? And then we back doored Lolo and Ricky says that's a that's an interesting idea. Let me think on it. And then he ran to low low, and he said, hey, Lolo, guess what? Ryan's gonna do which really just puts the nail in the coffin of this alliance and cement, Ricky as a trusted ally of these two women and really these three women with Tamar who was with them still at the time. And so this is this is Ricky's best move of the game. It's probably the best move of the game period. Maybe candy getting Natalie out is is is up there as well. But but really of the strategy. We saw this season. This was really probably the best. So I'll pause there. And and see if we have any questions here. Do you think the girls already formed the bedroom lines before? Or Ryan pitched for Ricky to win the veto. Is that why Ricky told on him? Yeah. I do I think that Ricky saw that he needed to break this this group up and that he wanted to get in with them. And that's why we saw him on the episode like I am going to stir up going to stir the pot a little bit. I'm going to. I'm really going to really gonna be throw some wrenches into the works. Like, I said it really was it the best move of the season at this point. We're all kind of thinking. Whoa. Ricky look at that best player of the game. All my. And he really was at the time, and you know, still might be, but there's some issues. So Ricky using this information. It works shockingly. Well, the women fully trust him. He gets zero blood on his hands. He has no blame for this Ricky's, really looking incredibly solid at this point, the women are starting to align with Tom and Cato. He has he is totally fine. He's protected by the by the women. He's got Jonathan on his way out the door. And everything's looking amazing. The veto is used on Tom and Ricky continues, and this is very very deliberate by Ricky after the veto is used on Tom and. Joey goes up in Tom's place. Ricky says to Lolo, hey, Ryan really wanted to put you up on the block as a replacement, but don't worry. I stopped him. I put an end to it. I told him. No, he shouldn't do that Ricky really I mean, he didn't stop him. We know this but Ricky took credit for it. This is all symptoms of a good player here. And it's right from the gate the very very early again. We were very impressed with Ricky at this point. He's also building a good relationship with candy who seems like somebody that he might be able to use in the future. Again, all things looking up for Ricky. However, things get a little shaky with Tamar because she sees or should she thinks she sees Ricky go into a room with candy that that that's that's not. Okay. It's not okay. You can't go into rooms with candy. This did not happen. We can confirm it the feeds. Did not happen. He did not go into a room with candy. He says that he did not go into room with candy. But tame mar does not believe him. She says he's lying on her. And this causes some serious damage to the relationship at least in the short term and. Taymor is really she's never going to forgive him for this imaginary slight. So that's not good for Ricky. And then then we finally see the one I think the big flaw in Ricky's game. If we're if we're saying this was the best time of his game. It was also the worst time of his game. And that is he's he's a bad day. You know, doesn't have as drugs, I guess, maybe. And it's not into not into being nice in Tom just rubs him the wrong way, for whatever reason the Thomas having a conversation with Ricky about how people change when the cameras come on. And I think Ricky was in specifically referring to tame mar when he talked about this because he kind of had a conversation with her about it. And I think that she kind of like. When the cameras went on. She kind of was like whoa, now, I'm crazy and so- Ricky's kind of having a conversation about this. And Tom is like, yeah. Of course, people change. I changed you chain tricky and Ricky I didn't chain like they get into a little bit of a disagreement here and Ricky kind of feels offended. He kind of rubbed the wrong way by Tom and in the conversation, Ricky calls, Tom appreciate. Maybe deep down here. Just a prick. He's trying to like get to the bottom of Tom's feelings. And it's just not working and this tension between the two of them is never going to dissipate rookies gonna push it even further later on where he tries to get Tom to do some standup right in front of them. And then cost Tom a coward for not being able to do it or not wanting to talk about politics, and he also refuses to name an alliance with Tom and Kato. I think at the time he didn't realize how closely he would be working with them in the future. He had a kind of alliance with the three women, and he didn't want to get caught making an alliance a separate aligns with Tom in Kato, which was what was proposed to him. So. That's that's bad too. He does some damage share with his relationship with Tom. However after he sort of realizes, oh, we're going to be working with these people Lolo tells him, you know, hey, we're, you know, we're trying to work with Lola with Tom and Cato moving forward. They're kind of mad at you. Right now, we need we need Jonathan out. Tom's kind of freaking out now that he's got a weird thing with you. And he kind of wants to save Jonathan we need to put a stop to all this. So Ricky goes oh didn't realize he goes to apologize. He tries to do some damage control. However, the damage is done, and that's really that's really the catchphrase for for Ricky's games. Like the damage has been done. Tom green is never gonna forget he might forgive. But he doesn't forget. So that's that's interesting question from Tammy catos. Biggest mistake of the game was not listening to Tom about rolling. John. And Ryan at this point. Yeah. Definitely. At least one of the big mistakes. I mean, oh boy. Kelly Taryn if you had to decide between another season of CB US or be OTT. What would you choose celebrity? I would definitely still choose celebrity. I liked I liked the the novelty of having all the feeds stuff for OT. But it wasn't a game. Even this even this is at least a game, right? So Jonathan is going to leave that week. And and I'm going to call these weeks, even though they're really evictions cycles, but vixen cycle is kind of a lame term to use them. Just gonna call them weeks week to Kato wins the wage Ricky wants to back door. Ryan Ryan, Ricky really wants to continue to get rid of these guys. He he's all about working with the women, and he has a good position there. I think he would obviously like to take some kind of shot at Tom realizing the Tom is is a danger to his game. But Kato is the wage. So Ryan is the target and they want to back door. Tom unsurprisingly is like, hey, Pat, Ricky guy, he was kind of mean to me. Hey, Kato, can we we back door him? Maybe can we target him? Kato says no the women say, no the women are all about protecting. Ricky Kato is all about protecting Ricky Kato really feels good about Ricky Ricky has done a pretty good job with Kato in terms of making him feel very comfortable with him Ricky when he's not in a bad mood is very very common presence. And he does have a level of emotional intelligence that I think gets him in trouble when he isn't a bad mood because he pushes too hard on that button. But when he is not in a bad mood. He he is able to be Kate up. We're all just one big happy family. You know, we're just we're all working toward the same goal. And I think that everything's going to be fine. And who was like, yeah. Everything's gonna be fine. And so rookie is able to keep himself safe this week despite Tom really wanting to maybe maybe make a move here on him. Ryan and Joey in the meantime, they wanna start a counter alliance. They need to they need to do something they're realizing they caught Tom and Kato and Lolo and Natalie in a meeting, and they're like, oh, those four a working together, we need to do something about this and K mart who still mad at Ricky is like, hey, Ricky's involved too. And they're like is he though because we feel like we can bring him in. He seems like a cool guy. And so they if if that contra lines ever actually amounted to anything they wanted to bring Ricky, and and so that's why mentioning Ricky has to Ricky tries to do more damage control with Tom Lolo lets him know, some of the pain points that Tom is talking about when Tom says that Ricky is a big threat, and that maybe they should target him in particular, this idea of naming the alliance so Ricky does go, and he says to Tomei your creative guy just want you to make the aligns name. And so. It's it appeared that that works. Tom afterward was like, hey, Ricky such a great guy. He said, he always creative. He wants to work with us. I'm all about Ricky. Now, however, either he was. Faking that or things reverted back to how he previously felt because Ryan will leave Tom will win H O H and Tom will now want to go back to his idea of maybe we should target Ricky, maybe we should Ricky wants Joey gone this week. But he does not know at the time that that he is the main course for Tom Cato is going to push back on the idea for a while. But but Lolo is going to be really sketchy. She's gonna talk. She's gonna long conversation with Joey it, really sketches Kato out and so- Kato. Finally goes, you know, what? All right. We can. We can get Ricky out. If that's what you want, Tom. We can do it. So so Tom decides. All right. Well, there's a there's a this weird power. That was talked about why don't we do some murder mystery? And that that can be kind of some cover for like, hey, well, I need to target Ricky what if he has the power so Tom wants to do some murder mystery this, of course, leads to the taymor blow up of your threatening. May why are you threaten me? Don't look like that on TV Tom. That's not a good look. And you know, Ricky, by the way advised him against murder mysteries. Like, I don't think. That's a good idea. Like taymor might blow up on you. And thomas. I can handle people blowing up on me. Tom how naive you're? So Tom is eventually gonna pitch this back door Ricky idea to the women and the women will not hear of it. They would rather blow up the alliance before they turn on Ricky, very very loyal to Ricky heated, a very good job of getting their loyalty and keeping it, and so they they're going to warn Ricky realizes that this point Tom needs to be gone as soon as possible he needs to get Tom out Thomas, just he's so set on him based on that prick conversation. And so Joey is going to go ahead and pitch an anti Tom position here to the women and Ricky who accept it and welcome aboard. All right. Joey, you're against Tom. We're against Tom. Let's work together. And so in the meantime, Ricky does eventually cool. Tom down the women are so against this idea of targeting Ricky that he's he's kind of already like do. I wanna piss the women off Ricky goes to Tom and Kato and has some good converse. Nations with them. And they they're like, you know, what fine. We're not going to do it. We've backed off we're not going to back door Ricky. We are. We are all good. But again, the damage is done. The alliance is dead. And so after the veto is not used with no communication between the two of them to parties. It's clear to Tom and Kate the alliance has crumbled. And so they try to flip Joey thinking that they think they have flipped Joey until there's a big blow up the next morning. And then at that point they're going to go to candy the blow up, of course, being the one where Lolo is starts calling Tom a piece of s cited not give language warning for this podcast. Everybody hates Tom here. Terrible human being your psycho, Ricky production, make Cato leave my room. That's that's what was going on with all of that fighting and blowing up it became obvious. The Joey was not on team Tom who was not exactly coming to their rescue or anything. And so. Tom decides. Hey, let's go to candy see if she's all right? So candy, of course, is on board. Hey, I'll go after the athletes I'm done with that. And so they decide that they wanna keep candy candy needs tame, our candy is able to get tame mar because of personal reasons outside the house, they have a relationship, and it doesn't feel like she can portray that relationship. So candy is going to stay here against against what no liquor wants. This is also tame taymor is going to start start calling Tom and Cato misogynist pompous. Assholes? Nuts. It's not. Okay. Things are not okay. And so she is voting for candy who's working with them? But she is definitely still anti Tom and Kato and very pro. Ricky and the women so that's that's going on that's going on. So Joey is gonna leave K marts gonna win the next h big celebration. She's so excited I'm going to get those women haters out of this house, a put them both on the block. They're going to be gone. Rickie is going to try to do a little fist bump with Tom gesture of goodwill that nearly works. But instead kind of turns into a conversation, we'd Ricky K mar and Tom where taymor is eventually going to demand an apology for Tom's threatening and bullying an inexcusable behavior, and Tom is going to be like. I feel like I didn't do that though. Like, maybe you interpreted that way. And I'm sorry if he did, but. Sorry, not gonna work not gonna work. No peace can be made. Candy is going to feel a little bit betrayed by Ricky. Because like I said they had a decent relationship forming and Ricky decided to go with Joey over candy that turns out to be a mistake because candy stayed and now she knows that Ricky was against her. Ricky does try to do some damage control here. But again, the damage is done and candy knows that Ricky turned on her. It is their prior relationship is still enough for candy to know that Natalie is her main nemesis over Ricky, which is going to be extremely important for her for Ricky in the following weeks. So that's good to hang onto. And if were if Ricky ends up winning this game, I think that we can say that Ricky one instead of Natalie because of the work he did with candy. And so that's important to note. So. Rickie is going to agree with the women that Cato is the biggest threat between him, and Tom Cato has been winning some some more conversations more conversations conversation, some more competitions. That's what happens when I start to read the chat for a second as I speak. Rick Kate has been winning more competitions than Tom. So Kato is the bigger threat tween, the two of them, and Tom and Kato are going to start wondering. Hey, one of us is probably leaving. But if we stay and we win h maybe we should make a deal with Ricky. They still feel they still respect Ricky on some level. They feel like Ricky's kind of in charge of what's going on. And so they feel like if they can make a deal with Ricky. He might be the most amenable to it. And and that might be the way forward if they win in h so KEDO is in fact, evicted and. Now, it's just down to Tom Lolo has a conversation with Tom prior to the next stage converse competition stop saying conversation so competition. My big thing. She's a conversation with Tom before the competition about Tom sort of explaining his feelings. Why things happen the way that he did? He apologizes for any misunderstandings that might have happened so on and so forth. And and Tom feels good about Lolo after this conversation. It's a very important conversation because I think it does influence Tom's motives heading into his next HOA JR. However, of course, unbeknownst to Tom by the time Lillo gets back to Natalie. She is fully anti Tom again. And she's using this conversation against it. But like I said Tom doesn't know that Tom is going to win the next h h and now that he feels good about Lolo wants to keep Lillo safe. And he's like what low lows the person I wanna make a deal with which means it's open season on Ricky all aboard. The let's get out Ricky train. Let's go. Can't he doesn't like it. Though. Candy doesn't want to get on that train? Can he wants Natalie out like I said, she thinks that Natalie is a bigger threat to her. And she is so Tom is going to have some one on one meetings. He has a meeting with Rickey it's a tale of two proposals. One proposal being Ricky goes on the block the other proposal being Ricky doesn't go on the block. Tom's pro pro Tom's proposal is going to win. It's going to win. He's the he decides candy really wants Natalie out. So she talks to Tom and she convinced Tom to put up Natalie with Ricky instead of Lolo with Ricky. And that's what's going to happen. Natalie is going to go up on the block with Ricky Ricky at this point decides. I'm done. You got me. I got nothing. I'm a fall on my sword for you. Guys. You women. I'm just here to help you away. Tom. It used to be. Never mind. Tom is gonna win the veto. Crazy stuff. What's what's Tom gonna do lo-lose? Not sure. Because lo-lose talking about how Tom used her Olympic dreams to manipulator. How dare he what a terrible person. Tom tries to pitch an idea of using the veto with two candy and candy doesn't like this. She wants Natalie gone. Tom wants Ricky gone can't he goes to tame our and she tells taymor that Tom is thinking about using the veto taymor misinterprets. What's happening? She thinks that she's the target. She goes and she blows up on Tom out dare you, Tom. You got a me up. You're threatening people. You're such a bully Tom's. Like, no don't use that word. That's not even what's happening. Tom. He's cowed the feeds cut. Apparently. This got even worse than we didn't see it feeds cut Tom goes, he hides up in his room. We know the story next day veto ceremony. Hasn't talked to anyone he decides he's going to use the veto on Ricky put slow up in his place. Ricky is saved his new life in this game is not talking about falling on any swords anymore. He's like, oh what a shame that. I can't separate Fleiss myself for you guys. But now that I'm off the block I want to keep that only because I have a better relationship with her. And I think that it's better for my game moving forward. But I'm going to pretend that I'm gonna let you decide because I knew that Natalie has a stronger will. So how do we keep Natalie? He tries to keep Natalie with Tamar it makes final two with Tamar. They do their best here. But candy and Dina will not budge. They are not able to get low low to leave. So for the second time the zen angry cult is gonna fail at it and vixen vote and Natalie is going to be the next person to leave the game. Ricky is this is important to note a lot more respectful toward Tom after the veto is used on him. He's like, you know, what he's a good guy. I'm I'm still after him in the game. But were cool that were even. Important to note because Ricky's basically, the only one of them that does this for now at least so Natalie leaves the house, and oh, it's double the vixen time. It's time for an addiction. That's doubled. Tom's gonna leave in the double eviction. We we saw this all play it live on the show. That's basically all that happens. Ricky really wasn't involved too much there. Next week week seven probably something like that. Are still mad at Tom. He deserved everything. He had come. And he's the worst. Nobody talked to him outside of this house. I hate him. Again, Ricky standing up for Tom. Hey. Let's chill. We don't need to talk about Tom anymore. He's gone. We we don't need to talk about. This is fine. Rickie Zanu h that's huge for him. Because it guarantees them a spot in the final four and it also guarantees him a spot on me recapping his game. Because I know he's in the final four because they waited to play the veto so long why wait and play the veto so long. I know I know that Ricky was desperate to be the person who's game. I recap. I so. Big win for him that anyway, he solidifies his final two with Tamar. He tries to solidify one Lolo. But like I said just at the beginning of this update lo-lose starting to get concerned that Ricky can beat her and she's probably right about that. Probably. But who knows like I said, I do think that Ricky is played the best conventional game of big brother Lolo, certainly played a bad one of both big brother and celebrity big, brother. But who knows? So Lolo she she doesn't commit. She doesn't commit to Ricky. And she. This really says some bad things for Ricky Ricky's like if Lois not going to take me that's not good and he's going to start to consider. Maybe we should take Lolo out before the final four. We don't know if that's gonna happen yet. And we usually have recaps of games before things. Go to the final fun of five haven't even had the veto the final five yet. And the feeds are dead. I know some people are like, hey, it's always died toward the end of the game which one not true and to not final five this five people in this house. I should be doing something. But anyway, that's really where we land right now. Again, the story of Ricky is the story of Ricky Bobby is. Rickie Bobby story of Ricky. Oh is that he entered the game. He got a bad break at the start with how the lines of shook out. He took control of the game. He shattered this big alliance. He inserted himself with two fantastic allies who protected him. No matter what and were more disliked than even he was he then really just crushed his way through he made a his one massive error with really antagonist, Tom who turned out to be a cop beast. Which is a very bad thing. But overall, I do think as I've said before I think that Ricky is probably the the best conventional big brother player on the season. Maybe the third best celebrity big brother player this season after candy and Dina because hey, they're doing jury management, right? Ricky has started to do jury management right toward the end of the game. He's being more respectful. I think that, you know, maybe that's just innate maybe that's not strategic, but but DNA and candy have done it better. And they do deserve to win over him. However, it is my opinion that that Ricky has played a better game and has done better jury management than low low entail, mar. And so if he is able to get to the end with either of them, he either likely will win or maybe should win in my opinion. But if he doesn't win then maybe he shouldn't have won. So we'll see. But basically the way I'm looking at the votes right now the way that I'm reading the social media. I do feel like Ricky has Tom's vote. I think that Ricky has Kato's vote over taymor and Lolo based on the tweets that they're liking. And so on. So that's interesting to know. I do I do like the count in my head has Ricky beating both of them, but kind of by slim margins potentially you never know we're going to go over the jury votes in some detail on the round table tomorrow night. So that'll be interesting. We're going to have the form to go. That's going to go out and the audience is gonna vote. So we're going to go over the potential final two scenarios and who can beat who. And so that'll be interesting. Susan wants knows candy work on taymor at all. Yes, they have talked a little bit about like, hey, if I don't do right. Yeah. Totally. But not a whole lot. Question. Do you know if they had slot yet? They had slop prepaids Jonathan was on slop he mentioned that he was on slob. What was the point of it? I have no idea. Mito is going to happen at some point today. And then there will be a recap tonight though recap episode, and then we will recap the recap after the recap tonight and then tomorrow night at eight thirty pm eastern. We will have the roundtable final round table of the season. We will lock in our stock watch picks. We'll go over the jury votes and everything like that. Yeah. It's basically what I got an inward anymore questions. Particularly if you have questions about Ricky Ricky's game or anything else than from let me know, otherwise we will start to wrap this one up here. Like, I said the feeds are Ted nothing defeats are. So this is like record-breaking dead. Let let me tell you the the discussion about the season. Instead, the fiends are dead. It's everything's dead. I'm just standing here by myself literally right now slick yelling about a season. Hopefully, hopefully, people are still watching me right now. Do I think Ricky can win if he doesn't own his game and acts like a coach with his honor and integrity. Whereas if k mart owns her game, people might respect that. It's certainly possible. Ricky can be it self righteous. But taymor is also somebody who doesn't really own the truth either. So. I'm not sure I think I think the Lolo is the one who is more likely to be Ricky because Lolo is more genuine with how she feels about things who she often feels in way, that's really bad nasty, but she doesn't. Pretend I don't know. It's kind of hard to to think about that. But honestly, I feel like the jury's votes are probably fairly locked. But certainly, I don't think it's I don't think it's a kind of thing where Ricky is not capable of losing the votes. I think anybody if they get to the final two is capable of losing the votes to win based on their behavior, especially given the kind of people that they have played the game to be. Do you think the women made the right decision working with Ricky and turning on the guys? No, I don't. Do you think Ricky through the color blast veto? He said he did to candy. I'm he said he did did he probably not. But it doesn't ultimately matter who does Ricky win against a best. I think is the best shot against tame. Are I think that Lolo is a second best shot? And I don't think he can beat or candy. Maybe maybe he has a shot. No. I don't think he does. I think I think Dino or candy any of the other three. Let's see here did Ricky deserve his Heisman overpaid McNabb. I don't know how to pronounce that one. Yes. Is my guess who is the best jury management at this point. Best jury management would go to Dina followed by candy followed by Ricky followed by Lolo, followed by tamer, in my opinion. But we will likely get a more concrete answer to that. When we see people in the final why Dina she's in. She's in rooms by yourself talking about everyone that left Jonathan I loved you, Tom. Oh, I miss you, Tom. I really, you know, I wish I wish they didn't treat you the way that they did. I think that candy is a more like respected player, which could get her votes. But it's still a candy versus Dina vote. I'm not sure what would happen. I actually kinda think Dina might take that one. So. Knows. I think is when mean something different, brother. All right. Does Ricky so on candy gone over Dina? It's really it's up in the air. I think candy is really open. I think Ricky is really open right now to any possibilities depending on what happens with the veto. So I don't think we're really going to know who goes home. I think legitimately think anybody could go home right now. Depending on what happens with the veto taymor is probably the safest. But that's just because she's the only one willing to promise Ricky, she'll take him to the final two. If Lolo starts promising things, and they start thinking about how tame mar she has this connection with candy. Who knows they could definitely still decide they want out. But she's probably the safest at the moment. What did I think this season is a good question? I haven't watched it yet. But I heard it's very good. So I want to check it out. Stay tuned. I think that's all we got is Dina winning would be a sad win. I don't I disagree. Like, I said, I think Dina's probably the second best celebrity big brother player on the season. For what it's worth I've been saying that all season long. All right. All right. There we go. That's what we've got for you today. I hope you enjoyed the Ricky retrospective. And obviously this is just my perspective on his game. What I saw throughout the season as I said, probably the best conventional big brother player he played the most strategically of anyone in the house is that enough to win the game. Who knows? But but it's how I saw his game. I went through my notes and everything so tomorrow, I will update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds we'll hopefully get a chance to update you about who wins the veto and who's going to be going home as well. As potentially talking about some of the other players games, especially once we know who's actually going to be in the final four, so. There you go. Tune into nights. Tune into Morrow morning eleven Amy's you're in tune in tomorrow night at eleven thirty pm eastern the round table and. Thank you. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong. Tony you can find me on Instagram tearing underscore on strong where I post pictures of me in Serie fields. And yogurt, and you can find me on twitch push on TV slash Taryn Armstrong. All right. Thank you guys so much for joining me on this wonderful lonely morning. Next on. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. 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CBB2 | Thursday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 7
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Whether you're going to work going on vacation or just going out with friends five hour energy energy on the go. For more information. Visit five hour energy dot com. Terry. Yes. John. And sandy. We'll see, you know, the ring, you know. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our alive feet update for February seventh. I mean, I was doing I'm strong. And with me today. Matt how're you doing that? Tearing him dressed in all black today. This is I guess my version of Brenton the veil. This is my my day of announcing the funeral. The death of the life feeds for big brothers. I am pronouncing them dead. I'm going to subtitle. This podcast. You're feeds our trash. This is no longer no longer a fun season of big brother celebrity fees. There's nothing nothing going on here. Besides besides a lot of hair-curling and yoga and sleeping, Tom. And it's just completely too much. I'm done. I thought you were really sad about Ricky. That was really not really sad about Ricky. You know, we we have boring feeds. So if the most boring house guest is potentially going to go home. Um this week good with me. All right. There you go. We are here to tell you everything that happened yesterday on the celebrity big brother to live feeds, and as as Matt pointed out here, we are losing quite a bit of content, especially toward the end of the day. We'll we'll get to it. But who knows how much more we actually have just like I could never actually pull the trigger and cancel my feeds. Because I want to know what's going on. I could never actually do that. But do you know how many times I've been so close to doing it this this season? It's just like I know that you've been watching obviously, it's just like we get a conversation started. And it's like the strategy starts to sneak into people's mouths. And then you're like the feeds are going to cut in two seconds. And then next thing, you know, the feeds cut, and it's the most frustrating thing I've ever dealt with. And I don't know like, I don't know. It's really getting to me. It was pretty bad last night. It's really really good to me pretty. Bad. It's been bad for a while now. But last night was like another level of I don't know. I think what it turned out that maybe they were sleeping most of them were sleeping in that downtime. I don't know. But it's just it's really inexcusable, and we've forgive big rather candidate because or some of us do because we don't even pay for their fees, but we are paying for this paying for just sleeping people curling hair and Ricky doing yoga, it's really annoying. I don't know. I I feel like now. Now, they feel like no feeds are free as a bonus. When you are a subscriber of CVS CBS all access. I just can't take another another show of Julie Chen, telling the entire audience sign up for CBS all access and watch the houseguests live twenty four seven at such a lie like she's completely lying to everybody watching, and I hope that nobody is signing up because they're not getting anything on these feeds we have to pick and go in for these small little sections of things just to get information to talk about today. That's neat fired up. That's my Brent ran. We started the day with Tom and Natalie Tom is explained. Hey, look, I wanted to tell you about the fact that I changed my mind with the nominations. But you, you know, you didn't really want to talk to me. So I. You had no forewarning. I I wish you luck in the veto competition. Yeah. I mean, he's he's wished everybody look in the veto competition. The his first round of interviews. The other day was I'm gonna put you up or I'm considering putting you up, but I hope you win the veto. Don't tell everybody else. What I said. And then there are they're all comparing stories that day, and they're like a, but he told me that he hopes I win the veto told me that to what. What a what a tricky little guy. Natalie's going to go to Lillo taymor and Ricky and. Tom just I don't know. I don't know about you. But Tom talks to her and that was just over the line. So it's all she really needed to go in on him. So there they talk about oh, he's just the worst. We are never going to speak to him again never gonna speak to him again after the season. And that's what he wants. He's not here to make friends which is like the like actually opposite. I think of what Tom's doing. He's a terrible human being he used Lola's Olympic dreams. He made fun of you for not having health insurance. Yes. He made fun of me for not having health insurance. That's exactly what happened FU CBS for letting him do that. It was disgraceful. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a good video on Twitter that I just watched before we came on like the actual conversation that time and low low had versus what Lola's retail of it was very different stories there. But I like, I don't know. I guess I'll just say get into it now. But I really don't think obviously what the trio the people in the goal jerem have been saying about Tom has been over the line. They've been taking this really far they're not treating it like a game. But I do feel like Tom has made in ever in ever like every step along the way. He just doesn't talk to anybody like they're real human this entire game of his has been about putting on a show putting on the best TV product and producing everything that's going on in his room. And it just feels like when he talks to people. It's just very calculated. He knows what he's going to say. And he doesn't talk to anybody like their actual human beings. So it's like I get the frustration that they have because when they go to talk to him. They're not getting anything at all. So well, that's the funny thing he. As I mentioned yesterday. He he does have a very strange way of expressing himself, except for that conversation with Lolo, which was very human and genuine, and sweet is the worst thing he's ever done to low flow. I don't know maybe he's just burned himself from all of these crabby ways that he's talked to her and talk to everybody for a while now because we've been calling Lolo crazy, which maybe she has. But you know, she was yelling at Tom all the time. Because you keep cutting me off you keep cutting the off. And then I watched him do that exact same thing to candy yesterday the day before and he's like, I know you, you know, you want to say this you want to say this. But let me say this. I and I'm like really start starting to feel like Tom might be the problem here. I mean, Tom is a problem. But I don't know if he's the problem. I personally, my my opinion is that you know, Lolo in Natalie are are like n taymor like way way way extreme on one side. And Tom is like just kind of an awkward dude on the other side. And that's like being an awkward, dude. And should not be inviting that kind of vitriol in in my opinion. No. No, no, definitely not trying to excuse. Like the things that the angry trio has been saying like they have a one hundred percent taking it over the line. And all that stuff. It's just like Tom is not making it easy. Any step along the way to talk to him. Like, he's a real to talk to other. He's not talking to anybody else like their actual human beings. Like, he literally produces every conversation that and that just makes me mad watching. Yes. I think I understand what you're getting at it. I think it kind of ties in with what we were talking about yesterday in terms of just like it's all in just in general about how you know, Tom. He'd just he I think he has trouble expressing himself, which is funny because what time does is. He says everything that he feels all the time. He's just like he doesn't. He doesn't hide anything. He just he's just like this is how I feel about this. And it makes people uncomfortable to have such a barrage of explained feelings that not only don't feel genuine, but also feel overwhelming because there's so many things, but that's kind of usually what's going on inside of a person. They just usually hold it in and also when they do express it. It's a little more a little more in some ways, weirdly calculated, and they're like, hey, this is what I'm feeling, and I'm giving you a version of what's of all the turmoil. That's going on inside. Tom is just like, hey, here's everything go go. Yeah. And I mean, you know, like I'm talking about this. I guess from the perspective of the three angry people. But let yesterday is when it really like became an issue for me because I saw it happened with candy as well. And candy is the one person who has been, you know, she guided him in the right direction this week and just to watch her get so frustrated with him because he's not listening to a where she says he's he's just completely shutting out any any of her opinions. And I think she might have cried after at some point during that, it seemed like she was very upset like later on which, you know, of course, we'll get to you. But just the fact that like she wasn't even able to get a word in and she came away feeling so upset I was like, yeah. I don't I don't know. Yeah. I mean, we'll get to that conversation. It was definitely I think poorly communicated on both sides three honest. But yeah, it's I think that really this house. I think everyone in this house even people like candy, and Tom have just devolved into this sort of state where it's just it's getting hard to communicate at all. Tom is worried about hey, don't use the word about threatening stop doing this. And I just stop just stop and candies. Just like me. You stop being dumb stuff. It's a bad mix. It's like, it's really a bad Knicks of people altogether. It's just man. It's it's so like who we're trying hard to find the entertainment, and I feel like luckily every week there's been at least one high point usually from Tom's insanity as nature wage but moving forward, which is like it's it's it's getting tough to find the joy in the season. I slick I said I'm willing to tweeted this the other day. I'm just thrilled. The Tom was the one who stayed over Kato because this kind of insanity only happens when Tom is in the house. This is the only thing that gives us something to talk about Cato at St. he would have been hiding back in his room. I I don't know if he would have won the H H and Ben upstairs for the entire week or not. But you know, Thomas the one who who's going to provide anything for us to even talk about. So glad we stayed. We had the veto draw. And there's seven people in the house six of playing the one person that is an angry cult needed to play in the veto this. She could win and remove one of them. And then somebody else would go on the block was low low low low is the one person not playing in the veto. Oh that was a badger. I love the Brenton even realize that until like this morning or something he put out a tweet saying I had no idea that little. Yeah. That's the most funny part of yesterday. The fact that they had these all these plans about Lolo, maybe taking Natalie off the block and not even a taymor out. It'll be so low low you didn't get pigs. Yeah. Not at least helping I guess maybe tomorrow, take her off the block at this point. But it does seem like the only person who will take her. Oh, truly take her office yourself now. Yeah. Natalie has a conversation with our team. Our is basically like, hey, I'll do whatever you want. I'm playing for you. I'm playing for you Natalie. Whatever you want. I'll do it. She's like, well, take me off the buck Scherf. I mean Lola will go up it'll be the same. And she's like, yeah, you're right. We'll we'll figure it out. I'm playing for you. We're good heading into the veto. Tom is going to win the power of veto. Beast Tom Kevin Martin green winning these competitions. I mentioned this last night on the roundtable. Just something to think about there are five competitions remaining. I assume you've got H and veto next week at the final six h in veto the week following or sorry, not next week at the double vision at final six then the following week another h in veto at the final five. And then if it goes, according to how it went last season, the final four will just be one competition one h H and whoever wins, we'll take one person to the final two eliminating to other people. So that really is advantageous for the competition threats because Tom has won four competitions. Now. Nobody else has won more than one competition. Tom has one four candies. One zero Dino's one zero all three of these end. Angry calls have each won one apiece. Taymor. Has one one. That's that's a pretty significant advantage. Now granted in big brother candidates six we thought that we there we had a similar competition ratio. In fact, it was even more dramatic. And then boom. Oh, paris. She's she's got she's all of a sudden the copies. So you never know. Yes. But that that is still somewhat significant and something to think about here moving forward. Tom is definitely in precarious situation for the double a vixen where he probably needs to win the veto, which is probably his most dangerous point. But if he does win that veto you very very well might see a Tom green in the final two. And it's just a matter of like mostly. I don't want to do ahead of ourselves here. Because when you think about the competitions that are coming. We've had a lot of mental ones in the past few rounds. It's been a lot of true false the last one that they just did this veto was memory. It was the one where you have to remember the color order, whatever. And then if you get it wrong colors blow up in your face and Tom had a good system down for that. So he's been killing it with these. But I do feel like when we get down to the physical ones. Like, I'm assuming that this double of action veto is going to maybe something, you know, running back and forth. You know, you run to get your pieces clown shoe, maybe kind of thing, and I don't know if he's going to be the best in that. But even if he if he isn't he does get through that the final h last season was the one where they were standing on the polls. And I think Ross one that. So you know, we saw Tom did in the last endurance competition. He was the first one off. So I really don't know if he's going to be beating any of the Natalie or lows when you get down to those kinds of competitions. So I don't know like is he just getting all the all the good comps now that he's actually good at or is he Patel? Essentially going to ride this moment of I dunno. It's very likely, and I think that something that goes under reported in big brother when it comes to looking at people as competition threats is that I think the kind of competition, you get matters a lot more than the person that you are than how good you are at competitions. And so like when you think about it like, Casey and big brother twenty probably never would have been seen as a big beast. If she didn't get like five competitions about hand eye coordination throwing catching balls balancing balls, which she's like a football player like completely and she happened to play in all of those like if she doesn't happen to play in those if they don't happen to show up, then we have a completely different view of who she is a player. So it really matters the kinds of competitions that you get. We don't know what they will be. We can look toward the previous season to see if we have any idea what they might be the it looks like a final six head of household. Was. If to get across a thing of the red the red carpet, right? Yes. Yeah. They had. Who I don't know who on that? Mark McGrath one that I think they knew crawling across the red carpet, and they had to go back and forth. And I think I'd like to different heats to compete and then the winner's face each other. So that's what I'm saying. It gets a little bit more physical at this point. It's it's a lot less of just true or false. Yes. And then I think there was something like a puzzle for the veto. I think I think Tom has the advantage when it comes to puzzles given what he's been doing so far in competitions. So if we have a puzzle veto that could matter a lot puzzle veto versus a running back and forth veto. That's what that's what I mean. Like, it's it's honestly seems less about Ken, Tom, do it and more about will. He get the competition. Get lucky enough. Yeah. So it's interesting to to look at here. When the when there's not a whole lot else to talk about on these. So yes. Let's look at Tom has won the veto Ricky, Natalie low low and taymor are going to be talking. Ricky says I'm going home, Tom has made things personal. Tom Tom had said he wanted to talk to Natalie and low low Ricky's like don't don't bother. Don't do it. Which is I think that if Tom did because Thomas Thomas wants to talk to them immediately was watching your home. We're like. What are you doing? What are you doing? Thing is if he did talk to them there's a chance that he proposed something and they'd be like street, Tom. And then maybe he wouldn't do the thing. And then maybe Ricky would be safe but rookies like, no don't talk to. Ricky's been kind of resigned to the fact that it's probably him going home for like the past forty eight hours or so and even so to the point where he's told Natalie. Yeah, you know, it's my time to go and Natalie even is under the impression that if if it's the two of them on the block, Ricky will like volunteer meta style to be like, it's my turn to go, which I don't think Ricky actually would do. But I think he just understands that like the votes are not there for him. No. But nobody in his room is reassuring him that we're keeping keeping you. And he knows that you know, Tom is not casting a tie-breaking boats. Keep him at this point. So he does seem defeated. But I don't know if he's like trying to get the girls to not talk to Tom because he wants to just keep everybody away from Tom because he hates Tom so much or if he's maybe like any kind of strategic intent with this by saying don't talk to him because I don't want your deals to be made better. I'm not sure. Yeah. We. See pickles is a wonderful regrets calling Tahmasp. Rick those weeks ago, I can ask you know. He does not regret it. He he mentioned it. And he was like it wasn't even an insults. I dunno. I so upset about it. He also mentioned the time that he tried to force Tom into doing the stand up in front of him. And it was like drop that pretty quickly. Okay. So it sounds like he does remember all of these things that he did. But he doesn't you know, he's never put in the effort to actually go talk to Tom to make it better. So that's working for you. This is one of the most boring players I've ever seen so passive aggressive. Taymor talks about wanting Tom gone next. She wants make sure Tom leaves. Now. He says, yeah, we we nominate Tom and candy Natalie wants to make sure candies still involved in this conversation. Tom talks to the cameras, and he lets us know he wants to veto Natalie off the block and put Lolo up to ensure that Ricky leaves now this actually. It's hard. We talked about this last night on the roundtable is this actually weirdly, the right move for Tom given that Natalie is more likely to go after candy, although that may not be the case anymore and like to to ensure that Ricky leaves was definitely going after Tom. I'm not entirely sure the way he goes about it the way he thinks he can go about it is definitely wrong. The way he ends up going about it. With candy is also definitely wrong. So ultimately, it probably doesn't even matter. However, I think the base move itself to ensure that Ricky leaves is probably the right move is just like everything around it as bad, and it's turned it bad. Yeah. I feel like there was just not a whole lot of thinking ahead from from the second. He started planning out this h we because he made these plans in his head, and then he talked to candy, and then she kind of made them feel differently. And then he still went through with his plan. He told Natalie this he told lo this and then candy came in and talk to him again. And he completely changed his things around again. So now like, I don't know if when he made these. Nominations. He was thinking to himself. I'm going to have to take Natalie down that it must have been something that you slept on over the you know, the following night. Because it just I don't think it made much sense at the time. But I guess like you're saying now, it does kind of make sense that if he wants Natalie to say because if he's looking at the block of candy Dina and potentially taymor as three votes that would have Vic Natalie if candy has that influence over taymor, then he would have no control of over whether or not Ricky leaves. But it just it's another case of this messy game from Tom green. That's just hard to track hard to follow in hearts of root for. And honestly, I think that he I mean, I I mentioned his it's hard. It's hard to analyze because his intentions are very different from his from. What's actually good for him? However, I do think that he should have really just never let candy sway him in the first place. He should have actually gone through with his nominations of Ricky and Lolo, especially if that's what he wants to end up with. I think that actually was best for him Ricky would have gone, and even if even if Natalie wins the veto and use it on Ricky lo lo leaves, and that's still better for him than Natalie leaving. So like, but he doesn't see that. And so he was able to be swayed by candy because candy was making the logical argument based on his misreading of the house. And so he did something that was bad for him. He sort of recognized that it was bad for him and wanted to change it back to what was good for. Him. But his, but what is good for him in his mind is still not the correct way of looking at things. So when he explains it to candy, it's going to it's going to blow up again because it doesn't make sense. Even though it is technically good for him. But she's not in the way that he thinks it is nothing nothing that he's saying is making any sense like he's talking to candy. And I don't know if we get to this yet the conversation about the table coming basically, basically his plan his his overall plan is that he knows that candy wants Natalie out, and he's worried that candy will vote to victims and that he'll have to get into conflict with candy about Ricky, and what he wants is that is a unanimous vote to victory. He's hoping he he's hopes that that will unify the house and calm everyone down. Ricky will be gone. He's the mastermind he's the strategic force with Ricky gone, then everyone can be friends again, and everyone can just chill and everything will be happy and fun, and they can just Joey Lawrence like I want all the happy people here for the last week. Like, I don't know where that came from. So that's that's Thomas plan. He talks to Dina. He asks Tina will you please vote Ricky out. She says, I okay fine. But you have to agree that Natalie needs to go next Tom's as fun. We're good. Then Tom goes to candy, and they have a conversation at the pool table where he lets her know about his veto plan. Hey, I'm thinking, I probably want to take Natalie off the block unless I can be absolutely sure that Ricky will leave next to Natalie and and candy having worked on Tom so much yesterday. I think finally just loses her patience here. She's like, Tom. What are you? That's crazy. Don't be dumb. What are you doing? Stop. And from this point on this is just it's all it's this conversation devolves. I mean, Tom is like essentially turned into like the hilly and festival like he's just telling candy. I think if we get rid of Ricky that Lolo and Natalie will be willing to work with me, and he's genuinely believing this. He he's he's telling candy who is completely like aware of everything going on. She sees the big picture. She sees that they will never be on the same page as Natalie and low low Natalie, low, low want candy and Tom out candy and Tom should want Natalie and Lolo out, but Tom saying, well, if we get Ricky out than the girls won't put a put us up. It's like who else is there left to put up? Do you think that they're gonna go after like, I don't know what he's trying to what's going through his head and like candies. Frustration is like the exact same frustration. That anybody watching has because we can see clear as day and candy can see clear as day, and she's trying to explain to him in the most simple terms, nothing. You are saying is making any sense. And he's like, no, no, no, no. I really I think that that Lola will work with us. If we if we. What what are you talking about? It doesn't make any sense. Remember the thing that I did that made Lolo and Natalie mad at me in the first place and say that I'm a terrible person. Which was that? I wanted to use the veto, and I had too many ideas. And I wanted to get Ricky out. I'm thinking. Let me say that again that if I do that again this time it'll work in the love me for it. What is time? What is time? But this time it doesn't involve them being on the block and me playing around but their lives in the games, like it's just, you know, little chess pieces, but but is what is what is. When I tweeted yesterday that I was like, maybe is it possible that with only a few days left in Tom maybe not so high and his chances of winning. He's literally just trying to make the most exciting television by saying, well, let me make a big move at the veto ceremony. And I'll take Natalie off the block and nobody you'll see coming, and then I'll put up some like, I feel like that might be just what he's going this point. Because this can't he's not stupid. He's not he's not a stupid person. He's a smart guy. And he's genuinely believing that that there's a chance that Natalie and Lola will wanna work with the next week. I don't get it. I think I think you're correct. And he's later going to talk about this in in those terms, I think he is trying to make good TV and at the same time. He's trying to. He's trying to make sure that he doesn't come away from this show as the threatening guy. He wants the women to to stop hating him. And he's willing to do whatever it takes to get them back in. And he he previously thought that like, okay. I'll just do whatever they want. Remember previous to the women yelling at him. He was like I'll vote out Joey for them. I'll do what I won't do the Ricky plan. I'll get Joey out healed. I'll do whatever they want. And that did not work. They still screamed at him. And he was like, okay. That's not working. So now, he's he's he's convinced that it's all Ricky he thinks. Okay. I just need to do everything in my power to get Ricky out of the house, then they won't hate me anymore, and I can make good TV. We'll I'd do it. And do something that's going to surprise everyone. And they'll be so surprised they'll be like, oh, Tom. We didn't even realize that you were so good and not terrible and evil like he's he's trying. He's trying very. Hard to to make this happen. And it's just not going to happen because he doesn't see that Ricky is not the source of all of his problems. He just thinks he is because Ricky was the only one to to show that he didn't like Tom previous to every everything that happened. But really the women never liked Tom even when they started working with him. They were like, we're just this is just a temporary thing, you know, Kato and Tom are fine. They didn't even like Tom that much. They were like kind of like Kato, but Tom and whatever the the alliance the idea of team fund has been Tom's all along was originally, just let's promise them safety. They promised us safety going into the week of the HOA chapter. Ryan locked these H. So they were just trying to keep each other safe. And then, you know, Tom started the whole let's call each other team fun thing. We'll get Ricky involved, and you know, not only said all along. I don't really like Tom Lolo is the one who voted for him in the first place. But this has not been a stable connection the entire season. And I guess Tom's hoping you know in the final hours of the season. Maybe he can. Of course. Correct. And make this all better. But it's coming at the cost of poor candy who just finally started to see the light of day. Finally started to play the game. Finally, saw maybe I have a partner here who could win competitions and helped me get farther. And now, she's like smacking your head against the wall. Trying to talk any common into them. Yes. Candy's trying to tell Tom look Natalie is the biggest threat stop being stupid. We not to get Natalie out. She's more likely to win next week. If if you have to win the veto to stay next week if one of them wins h Ricky's not gonna win anything. He doesn't win. Anything? Navigate is not a comfort likely to win and Thomas like. No. And he's going to take me out. He's Ricky is gonna win. He's going to send me home and candies like. We look you're gonna you're gonna do what you're going to do. So just go ahead. And do it it Ricky on one competition entire season. And it was when he was first of all he's playing against five people because the mooch was in that. And of course, the mood wasn't trying to win. And it was the one with with like the start stacking the gold bars on top of the thing. So it's like essentially building a cart house like if you get lucky in your other competitors drop all their stuff, I like that was entirely luck and Ricky's dot com threat. He's I think he came in second out in this veto competition. It's very clear then Natalie is the one that you should be worried about right now. But we are very well aware that Tom cannot get past this rookie thing. Like, I said I personally feel like Ricky probably is Tom's greater threat. At least at the moment. Whereas I completely I think that candy is completely correct. That Natalie is a bigger overall threat and certainly a bigger threat to her as well. But also again when like candies arguments make more sense than Tom even though Tom is theoretically arguing for his own best interests because Tom is arguing for a different thing that just happens to coincide with his best interest and candy is correct in arguing against Tom's thing that just happens to coincide. So so candy kinda just gives up in Thomas frustrated because he's like candy. We're this is supposed to unite us. And even want that I put not only on the block. And now, you're not helping me out at all and getting up my target like you have to be on board with what I want just like I was on board with what you wanted. Yes. And so he brings up this idea. All I can use the veto on Natalie. And I can put up somebody that you won't want to vote out. And then then we can make it unanimous. He's all he wants it to be unanimous. He wants the house to be United and candies. All there. You are with the threats that you are with the threads. And he's like, no, no, no, not don't use that word of nothing threatening to please. It look I have been emotionally targeted for three weeks. Now, I'm tired, and I just want to enjoy my last week in the house, and she's only this is the start of the producers going stop threatening. Nope. You can't watch. Nope. No, no, no, nothing. Nothing. Sorry by. He's like, I just wanna talk. I wanna talk to the women only get them on board. We're gonna work with them. It'll be great and not gonna work. Yes. And candy, again, just kind of just gives up here. She's like, I just need to go rest. I just need to think about this and Tom's like, no, I need you. Please leave me I need you Heure smarter than me. And she's just like, I just can't. I just can't talk. What else can she possibly say? That this guy like nothing is getting through. He's very clearly stay standing his ground and not willing to change. What he's you know. What is what is mind is already been made up and? I would walk away to if I was candy. There's not much left that she can deal. But the problem here is obviously what comes next where candies next conversation. So yeah, I mean for for me, I I wished that candy had had try to little her. I know that it's frustrating to try and operate with Tom. I can see that. She did it successfully yesterday though. And I do I do genuinely feel like if she had had a little more patience with Tom and she had like sat down and worked it out with him that she could have convinced him to go the other way. I think that he was he was open enough to it. And I think that she's capable enough of it. But she didn't really try very hard in this conversation right from the get-go. She was just kind of frustrated she just kind of didn't have the patience, and and like he's he's literally begging her to stay as she's walking away. And she's just freely giving up the influence that she has over Tom, which is which is unfortunate. I wanted more from her in that moment. I I still I go on a personal level. I completely under. Stand where she's coming from. I still think she's fantastic as a person as a player I wanted a little more there. And then also what she's going to do with taymor right after she leaves is another sort of a little bit of an error here, in my opinion. She goes to taymor. She's still frustrated and she's like Tamar. Tom's. He's going to do the back door. He's he's using the veto. He needs to put up somebody that I won't vote out and tamers. I what wouldn't me up. You wrote me out. I'd no no, I'm not. I'm not voting you. You're voting me out. I knew it. You shouldn't have worked with Tom. I knew you shouldn't have worked with Tom. I told you this was going to happen. And he's like, no, no, no. Tim the wasn't in Thomas plans whatsoever. Like he wasn't. She wasn't somebody that he was considering targeting or anything this week. It's always been about Ricky, but taymor on the back of her head knows that she just put up Tom and Cato last week. She just took out Kato Thomas best friend, and she's had this suspicion, even though she hasn't been totally vocal about it. I mean, she she's mentioned it here or there, whatever. But she's she's been thinking that Tom is going to eventually put her on the block backdoor, whatever. So now, she feels justified candies coming to her saying he's gonna use the show and she's like. Yup. It's me. I knew I knew this was coming, and we we know from him talking and talking to the cameras that Lolo is his was his plan. Maybe still is his plan. Who knows if it's changed because what happens here is that taymor starts freaking out that is going to be her. And she goes, and she tells Natalie Ricky and Lolo and she said, hey, Tom's put me on the block. She burst into their Tom's. Putting me on the block. And I mentioned this last time around table like. Oh, oh, oh, what's no, no. Who told you that? Yes, exactly what we wanted to have happen. Yeah. I guess they they probably do see a little bit of a bright light here. Like, oh, maybe this is something, but it's really not anything because that's not what Tom's likely planet is in the first place. So let's not get too excited. You know? Yes. What do we call them? Angry people zen angry. Kobe is Zach Zach does too excited. Yeah. It would be easier. If we call them Zach cult, but that would be like machine Zach attack. But that's that's a little too. Zach grants for me. Taymor is co into the kitchen, and she she's she's mad at Tom. Oh, so you're back to threatening people know, please stop using. We're just playing a game. It's just a game in Tampa that no not on your threatening people. It's not not when you're cut. Yes. And there goes the feeds for the next four the rest of the night, essentially, they they've just been so so picky with what they show us. And I really feel like there must be something going on behind the scenes with like a lawyer or publicist or manager somebody. I don't know if it's Tom's or taymor is or whoever is it is that I feel like there's gotta be something that is back there where they're saying stop putting all the like stop letting people see all of them getting angry with each other and ugly. And we know that Lolo said at some point during the day, they told they told her specifically you have to be respectful to your other houseguests. You can't call them male, chauvinistic. Pigs don't say that anymore and Lolo because she was talking about that. So they clearly want the house to be a little bit nicer. Or a lot of it nicer. They don't want this on the feeds. So the second that things get good. We are not allowed to see them anymore. I think what's happening here is that. Production tried to intervene. They tried to stop this from happening there. We gotta stop going to be nicer to each other. You know, you can't be calling these people things because they see what's happening, and they see that like the responses like so much more dramatic than the cause. And they're trying to calm these people down. But in trying to calm them down for somebody like Lolo. It's like why are you taking his side? What's? Are you kidding me? CBS? Are you are you making fun of my Olympic dreams? And so they're starting to get the brunt. End of it as we saw Lolo is now like f you CBS, and so they're like, oh, what are we to? They're all of a sudden trapped in this situation. So they're only they're only source of recourse here is all right? We can't tell them not to say these things because then we'll get mad at us. And they'll say that we censored them from men who are threatening them. That's not a look we want to have. So we just need to cut it all we still let them do it. And we just won't show it, that's that's the only thing we've got left. It's really really frustrating. If you can't control your your own house guests and find a way to sit them in the diary room for two hours. I don't I don't care what it takes if Lola's the one who's been going off about this in that sit her down let her calm down in the room explained to her what the situation is. And explain to her. We can't keep these live feeds running while you're badmouthing, Tom and calling him. This calling him. That like like you need to remember. This is a game. Like, I don't care reminder that this is like everybody's watching her act like this. I don't care then you have post game interviews with Lolo who said I had men threatening me in the house and CBS part of the patriarchy shut it down. They protected they protect the Tom, and I felt unsafe in that environment. And that's such a bad look for CBS, especially right now, it's it's really not fun for for any of the houseguests. I'm sure it's not fun for production. But it's really not fun for us watching that the second that anything gets good the second that taymor starts to tell Tom mouse. You really feels of course, we cannot watch it, and we're just going to be stuck to DNA curling your hair for the rest of the night. Yes. So feeds feeds cuts, and they pretty much the only time they come back is when people are sleeping, or there's nobody taught that people are reading nice and silent if you just. Tuned into the feeds last night post taymor blowing up on Tom, then you'd think men these people are really zen real sexually zen. It was bad. There was like a couple of times where like people would wake up or because I think like I said, I think that they were some of them were asleep. Maybe at some point. I don't know. But some of them would like start to talk game gaming the second that they said anything about the game. They would completely cut to somebody else. There was three girls were in the train the train car room. They were they were about to start talking cut away. There was we actually did get like about five minutes or so of the candy and Dina had gone to talk to Natalie and Lolo and that actually went through. But it still doesn't last as long as it could have. Yes, we did get some bits here. And there we saw feeds come back and taymor was berating candy more for working with Tom. Like again, I told you this would happen. You you screwed this up for us, baba, blah. So that was going on candy did have this conversation with low low in Natalie candy is this this is what I liked from candy. She feels like, okay, if I can't get Natalie to leave then I need to get Natalie on my side, I like this from from candy here. This is the right thing to do if you're sure that you're not going to be able to get what you want. I still would have preferred her to get what she wants. I because you know, I wouldn't say that she that. These people are particularly, trustworthy, and it would be very good for her if Natalie left. However, this is the next best thing, she talks them. She's like look. You know, I felt threatened by you. And I apologize for that. I thought you were going to put me up next to Tom and they're like, yeah. That's understandable. You know, you were doing what's best for your game. And you know. They kind of they kind of. They they get making men's they're feeling. Okay. Lola like, you know, what we should be communicating directly instead of going through taymor. And by the way, tamers, I know you think the team are saved you, but tamer has been talking about how you need to go on the block and all of this stuff. And this is a big opening for candy because Lolo and Natalie do not like tame are. So if candy can get in here and be like, hey, I'm willing to work with you. They were like so down to replace taymor with candy, if they if they need to the only thing is that they know that they can't beat candy in the end. But you know, they plan on taking each other to the end anyway. So it doesn't really matter so candies like, oh, yeah. That's that's Natalie's. Hey, we should we should be working together. We should you know, you don't don't be working with Tom, Tom even more with work with us. Yeah, I'm good with that. I don't need to work with Tommy. I'll I'll work with you guys. That sounds good to me. Yeah. There's been very little communication between candy Andino with the with this with anybody in this room, really besides taymor. Obviously, we know that taymor and candy have their connection. But other than that, they don't talk like they pass each other in the house during the day. And sometimes you get to like the halfway point of a regular big, brother. Susan and you're on day forty and it's like. Two people. You're like they literally have not talked the entire game. And they've been in the house for over a month. So now, we're at the twenty something day, you know, point of the season, and there's only like seven days left to go. But these people are realizing that they never actually talked to each other. And this is about to be the end game. So like, you said smart on candy for for going to them and try, and she was very upfront about it in like a less less in a better way than than Tom going to Ricky saying, listen, I was trying to back door you and not trying to explain it at all. He was just saying this is what I was doing. Sorry, candy was like, listen, I know you guys were going to put me on the block Tom seems like somebody that I can attach myself to to go a little bit further in the game. It's not like it wasn't anything personal. I just see you as a strong competitor. And it seemed like something that might have been able to to get done. But if we can talk, and we can get on the same page, then I'm all for it. So good on candy. I think here. Yes, this this conversation may have saved candy. If Natalie does stay and Natalie gets power, she might decide you know, what? Maybe Tom is worth going after I then candy. However, candy is still the number two on the hit list. You may have saved yourself for one week, but not not really anything more than that. As it seems right now. So she's still kind of in a precarious spot here. It would against it'll be better if Natalie just left entirely, but it's better than nothing and one week could make all the difference in this game. Especially again, when there's very few competitions left, and you only need one or two of them. So I sure though if Natalie or Lolo won the the double eviction, h it's Tom and candy are still going on the block, regardless. I I would say, and then you know, Tom doesn't win veto. It's obvious. He's going home. But you know, this conversation didn't do enough where it's like, all right? Well, I guess we'll keep candy. Now, candy still going to be the second option. So you'll need to like, I think that there's a door open here. Where again, I think if you works this angle enough, and I know I'm looking at this from a perspective of a person who's playing the game and on a level that just isn't in the house. But there is an opening here where a good enough player could definitely keep pressing on this. And like I said kind of end up replacing mar and get to the point where they might put taymor up on the block with Tom in the double of addiction or even further make make taymor go before candy that I think that possibility is there will candy keep pressing. I'm not sure I don't want. I wanna -ssume that she will. But it's definitely open to her. As is. I think if she went and she talked to Tom today. I think that she can still get through to him is just a matter of trying and and using using her skills. We know she has in the correct way. So. Will these things happen? Probably not. But the door is open. If I find it kind of interesting that you think that they would potentially want taymor out bad enough that they would keep candy. And so like assuming that Natalie in Lolo both state in the house this week. What do you think that their ideal final four would be I guess Dina and one of the other two Dina, and I think right now, it's Dina entail. Mar. That's what I was. Because I wasn't sure if you were saying that you think that candy would be the better pick for them right now. Right. I think that I think the way that they are looking at things they like I said they've they've constantly talked about like tame argest frustrates them. They want to get her out. And she's also won a competition. She's also a little bit more threats. She also as they know is a fan favourite because they like that she has the power if I think that if candy worked hard enough to get in with the women and right now the biggest thing against candy for Natalie. Is that Natalie See's candy as this like tricky, you know, oh, you got in with Tom. And you've been sort of pulling some strings and you'll definitely win in the end candy did a pretty decent job of going there. And just being like, look, I just went to Tom because I didn't have anywhere else to go like playing this sort of like, I really am the person you thought I was for a few weeks where I'm not doing anything. I kind of got pushed to one side. She could also there's so much dirt. She has on mar she can say taymor told me to do this like taymor has been telling me about what she's been telling you guys because tamer has been running back and forth. She's got the dirt. They would. I think they would definitely flip on mar they would see candy as a lesser competition threat, which lets the two of them get to the end more easily. Like, I said, I think the pieces are there. I don't think that she sees all those pieces. I don't think she will put all of them together and put candy Kleenex dots here. But it's tricky because as we know taymor will go easily to Tonelli Lolo insa- candies annoying. The crap out of me, I understand that. I that. I messed up, and we shouldn't have kept her. But candy doesn't do the same thing about Mars? She doesn't really throw taymor under the bus because she doesn't see that taymor is throwing her under the bus. Same time. So, you know, candies a little bit blind to that part. Yeah. So like, I said, I think the doors kind of open there, but likely not going to walk through it. And she still the deal with this frustration of Tom green and the rest of his h before she can even think about the next step. So yes, she talks to deny. She tells her about Tom what he's doing their frustrations. With him demands. A kind of trying here. She feels bad for Tom Kean is his own faults doing this to himself. Dna that feels back Thomas been in his alone in his room ever since tame mar went off on him. And and candy was like it was it was pretty bad pretty bad one. Like, oh, well, we missed something big here. Yeah. Until Tom says he's been trying to says later, I guess he's been trying to keep to himself. So, you know, it's not like he I don't know if he's like necessarily hiding for a while he says he was hiding so I guess, you know, he's trying to avoid everybody. Plus he's obviously thinking like crazy because he never stops thinking about what he's going to do. But he does tell us what he's going to do. I think you know. So we go up to Tom and he's talking to the cameras he wants to make move at the veto ceremony. He does plan on using the veto, or at least appears that he'd plans on using the video. He's a little bit vague with us because he doesn't want us to know in the same way. They did just want the house to know he wants and nobody to expect what he's going to do. He wants people to be surprised. He says that the Zach made a mistake not a victim that had they should've aected him over Kedah. Because you know, Cato wouldn't have done this. And he's he's sad that the game has gotten. So mean spirited? It's should just be a game. It should be fun. He's he also talked about how DNA is his only true ally. He knows now that candy is running back to the other side and telling them what he's been telling her because as soon as he got done in his conversation with candy taymor came at him for everything that he just told candy. So now he feels a bit betrayed by candy. And knows that he can't really trust her moving forward. Even though she's kind of an ally. He can't really trust her. So that's what we're looking like here, Tom he wants to make some surprising move. So maybe that's putting low low on the block maybe now that tame ours come out him, and he feels like candy betrayed him by telling taymor this information. Maybe the move is to put team are on the blog. I think I think that is the move just now that he knows that there's this connection with them. I've really because if you thought that they might vote Natalie. And the end taymor might be in with candy to do that. Then they could very easily just vote out Lolo and keep Ricky in against Tom's bushes. So I really feel like if he wants to go with this plan. He's probably got to put up taymor at this point, which I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans, all for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and last number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply. Again, is what I've been advocating all along. But he's not doing this for this. I know he just keeps it makes it so hard for me to talk about because he keeps backing into the moves I recommend for him. So in the most asinine way that it's like I'm trying to criticize and also say, but at the same. Time it might be the right thing. So it's it's difficult. Taymor might be going on the block, which I do think would create a good dynamic for Tom. And then honestly, Tom could do anything at this point? I could see him being dumb enough to put candy on the block. I really could I likely, but I think it's a small possibility. So like watch out, I don't I don't think he obviously, I don't think that he should do that. Because candy is one person in the game that seems candy like gone. She goes on the block. Yeah. No, absolutely gone. But but at this point like the damage is the damage done. I mean, it makes sense for taymor is a much better choice than candy. But this is Tom green. We're talking about. He could do anything. I guess it wouldn't surprise me at this point. So yes, we know all we know for sure is that Dino will not go on the block on anybody else is basically opening game at this point just to make sure there are three votes, at least at the very minimum three votes to get Ricky out. So there can't be somebody more appealing on the block because he needs that candy vote. Can't. Candies like the most crucial vote honestly that he needs because he can control her vote more than any of anybody else. Besides dina. Yes. So I think that taymor or Lolo are the most likely I think the candy is small possibility if I had to guess, I mean key mentioned Lolo, he never mentioned, Tim Marceau. My I'd lean toward Lolo before taymor. However after what happened with Tamar it. I think it's definitely a large possibility that tame mar would go on the block honestly with how the way he was talking about. Nobody would expect it could take pull Ricky down for all we know again, very unlikely. But you know, he's he's talking about doing something surprising. He already told. Here's the thing. Here's the thing that I was thinking about he already told us to the cameras that he was going to pull Natalie down input Lolo up then later, he was like I'm going to do something surprising guys. I'm not gonna tell you. What it is. He already told us the Lolo plan. So maybe he has changed his plans. Maybe may. I'm now, I'm kinda talking myself into the and maybe he wants to make sure the cameras get eight because he needs to repeat himself million times a day give give producers any different kind of combination of seeing that they can use because he literally has the entire show in his head. He's talking about like like, I wonder if there's a cameraman in this room watching me right now, I hope when I get out of here. They give me a tour of behind the scenes, so I can see everything going on. Also, he was clearly in an emotional state. They're like he'd been berated. It was pretty bad apparently by tame taymor and had been alone in his room the whole night, and it was getting late. He he might have just been like emotional in that moment. And then when he wakes up this morning, he might be like. Should I really go through with what I was thinking before? So he might not even do what he was thinking the night before he might do something else. Who knows either way probably will take Natalie off the block I feel like it's really heavily where he's leaning. I don't know who's going gonna put up, but I feel like he's way too afraid of the fact that this big threat is on the block, and there might be people voting her way instead of the one person that he needs to get out of the house in his head. Yes. So. Lots of lots of open possibilities here for the veto ceremony. That's the thing. That's the thing with Tom in terms of watching him is that you never know what we're left with some uncertainty, and that's a little fun. At least the the entire season has been, you know, the longer h rains in the shorter ones and Tom has gotten both along h rain. So thanks in terms of aging. Yeah. I mean, I mean, especially like for tame ours game if she had the longer h she would have probably gotten a little bit of the h China's, but she only had like forty eight hours. So it didn't go anywhere. But I mean in terms of like, it's gotten ugly. But in terms of entertainment, Tom is the one we wanted in the in that room up there? Yes. So we'll probably have the veto ceremony at some point today. That's what I would imagine unless they planned on doing it live on the Friday episode, which I don't think is likely not kind of maybe. But I think it's a lot more likely to do it today. I hope they do it today because I think Bill especially if he does but obtain mar there's a lot of fun to be had. And if they did it live on Friday, then there'd be none of that fun. No. They only do it live when when they like really don't have any time know, especially when they do the live veto on the episode. But I think as many as often as possible they would wanna get all of the footage in ready. So that they can edit it in to our show coming up on Fridays. Plus there's going to be so much time on Friday because tonight is going to be H O, H and. They're already gonna get so much in in the first place. So having two hours tomorrow, they have a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah. The hope I'm really looking forward to the Friday episode. I feel like maybe it will be the first like really good upset at the season. Hoke actually, it's like we're going to get the family videos. Probably. Yes. Well, actually, they said a family videos on Thursday. I think taymor said, but but that might mean they'd get them on Thursday the aired on Friday. So that's we might get a feed outed cheer for the veto ceremony. And then shocking feed outage on celebrity big brother season two you don't say. Yeah. So so anyway, tomorrow morning l eleven AM eastern, I will be live to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds, hopefully, we'll know what happens with veto ceremony. And then what the plans are for the fiction moving forward. Tonight's. There will be an episode, and we will be live after the episode to recap. It should be a lot of fun. And then again tomorrow Night Live to our double eviction special ba- finally down idol five after tomorrow night. There's just right now we will be down to five and then within six days from now, this will all be over. And we can just maybe just. Forget it happened in big candidates seven. Yeah. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, you can find Matt Matt Liguori? Yes. And thanks for joining us next time. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's number one number two employee. Leave a message at the hey, Jamie. It's me, Jamie. This is your daily pep talk. I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your Capella group mad harmony, but you will bounce back. I mean, you're the guy always helping people find coverage options with the name your price tool. It should be you giving me the pep talk. Now get out there, hit that high note, and take mad harmony all the way to nationals this year. Sorry, it's pitchy. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. 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