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That's crazy. There's some very disappointing. I was so I was in such disbelief that I had to tweet it out to make sure that this is really a thing that happened. So wait for that. Natalie in Lolo are going to be talking earlier in the day. This is before the vixen. Action. They have agreed to take out tame, mar if over Dina if Ryan or Joey end up winning the veto tame was going to be the person that if Joey ended up winning that veto in the episode or Ryan had been picked and won the veto. However, they do recognize that it seems like Cato wants DNA to stay because he's closer to Dina than they are DNA would come after them before she came after him or Tom. So they recognize that, but they're still willing to let Margot I. Yeah. I mean, that's a lose lose -tuation last night. Like, I'm still I'm still not quite a over it. I didn't wanna lose Ryan and getting rid of are would affect to. I mean, they're definitely acknowledging that that scene. A- is less good for their game than tame are. But it seems that they're still willing to to. I mean, cut fat from from the supposed girls alliance. That isn't even really an alliance just those two. But I mean, I was feeling like oh, man. I I definitely don't wanna lose Ryan. But I also don't lose. Mar this really is a lose lose situation. But I'll say this at least Ryan would've competed in the H company. We're not there yet. We're not there. A wait for them. So low low, and Tom Cato have a conversation. There was a whole mess happening where taymor at one point told the women that Dina was not gonna use the veto if she won and that she's in order to protect Ryan, and Joey she's not gonna use the veto. So that they can't be back doored and so low she goes and tells Tom and Kato and Cato's like what? No, no, that's not true. We need to go talk to Dina and make sure that that she does that. She does use the veto. And Tom is just like, well if she doesn't use the veto. We'll just voter out. It was like, no, no, no, no. He's like, well if she doesn't use the she is going to use the veto. Yeah. But if she doesn't use the veto nobody we're going to tell her to use the veto. And Tom Tom is like, well, no, no, no don't talk to her don't tell her letter decider own fate. She wants to not use to voter out. So they're talking about the day in the end talking to Dina, and they say, hey, we've heard that you might not use. She's like what why would I not use the veto? That's make any sense. Fill like, okay. Good. Good Dina's pissed. I can't believe that. She said a swear word. I don't remember what it was. But she was like, oh, okay. Could swore. She was she was very mad. I mean Dana is playing the game a little bit. She does at least have the three of us veto on yourself. And you know. Again, Dina's credit in this conversation. I just wanna work with you guys. Just like I want to be on your team. And like just the day before she was talking with Ryan and Joey like, hey, we get a pull in. We get a pulling candy, and she is she is in like she's floating like she is actively floating in this game, which is actually kind of working well too. So I don't don't close your eyes on on DNA here. She's prepared for DNA lo Han art, celebrity big brother to. In my opinion, one of the more likely scenarios right now. Yeah. So definitely start preparing. So. I think. That we've got this naked. All right. Everything went down. Everything. It's. It's it's it's the. We to stream to all these things is like we're still like I didn't go from you. Chats going to it's like. Oh, I think we're back on which says twitches online now. Two. Is still sending. Data. Rob just said I'm back, but at my back on YouTube or just I'm on Facebook. Come on you to. Make it three. I think the YouTube chat stuff. Oh, no it is. 'cause I said we're figuring it out fan. Thanks and nothing has happened since then, no. Come on YouTube. We might have to go back on YouTube back we outright s-. Okay. Talking about the universe. Where Dino lo Han win celebrity big brother to an apparently all system had the shutdown. Okay. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was trying to get people to prepare for a potential Dina win. But I. I don't want that to happen. Sorry sky. You're gonna have to edit that one out. Anyway. Let's let's just pretend I never happened ready. We're gonna make an edit point here. So. Yeah. Dina could totally win. All right anyway. Definitely definitely impossibility. Yes. So Dina was mad. They're like, okay. Everything's fine. She's going to use the veto, obviously. And then there's this whole then is going to go around and tell them people. Everything's fine is going to she's going to use it who does she choose. Who does she choose? If she gets picked to choose somebody in in in the veto draw. She's gotta choose told her issues Ricky Bo what a Frikkie already chosen. What if I don't, okay? Oh, okay. Okay. Perfect right now. Wait a minute. What if what if both Ricky anti-aum are already chosen? Oh, man. Understand how this people in the house like they're so frantic over like the few possibilities that can happen. It's so difficult. You know, strategy what you say, but it was keta. Frantic like he's like. But then he's like, yeah. It's all like, he it's like he has no internal monologue. Like every like stream of thought that he has is coming out. He can't take a moment to think about it. And then like say the last thing like where he figures. No, you're gonna go through hole round possibility. He likes to be just like chill joking around guy. But the second something like, oh, we have to figure this is. Oh. Ricki than I choose you. But then if you're already chosen the shoes, Tom, and then I don't know what to do after that. And ricky. I mean, what are the odds that? Hey, it's good to be. It's good to be prepared. We gotta tell her about what to do. So I guess we'll just tell her that. I've convinced the the women to veto her. And that she should choose one of the women everything. Okay. All right back chill keta. How long now I need to go talk to Dina. Okay. So here's what you gotta do. And it was just this whole mess. If you wanna if you wanna be frustrated go back watch the conversation with Cato DNA aware Kato tries to describe Dina what she's supposed to do in the veto draw. They both get very confused. And it's it's pretty pretty nuts. Pretty pretty nuts. If you wanna go get frustrated, she's frustrated by watching people back and watch. Yes. So just do that. Strating week with KEDO. Yes. Made sure that the last few hours of his where on brand so. We end up going to the addiction. And as we saw Ryan was not chosen to play in the veto. Joey was the Joey signal was a lights, and he did not pull through he failed his city and everything is bad in the world for Ryan Ryan gets victims back door true backdoor. Ryan locked. And and we go Ryan is out. Now, it comes down to basically that house versus Joey and tame our, and we have this new twist the publicists twist for a while it looked like Joey was in the lead here. But it does seem like tame our has retaken the lead. And the team are is the more more likely recipient of the publicist twist, which I was a lot more fine with before h competition, which are almost ad. I mean, I yes, okay. We'll we'll get there. I will say my Twitter feed is like people that don't follow big, brother. But there's nothing else on my Twitter feed from the last twelve hours that isn't hashtag CB like it's or I mean, I'm seeing a little bit of others. But it's that's pretty much Twitter right now, if you follow anyone that's a big brother person. Yes. I will say. I'm of two minds about this. I like that we can kind of track. How the vote is doing as opposed to like the usual sort of curtain of like don't look at the man behind the curtain. We will count the votes ourselves. And not let you know. I like that. It's a little more, you know, out there exposed, theoretically. However, I don't like how knowing it is on Twitter reminds me of I used to watch the voice and the voice would do like the hashtag save. So and so and so they count that the hashtag. But like the period in which that they do that. It's like ten minutes. So it's really not that disruptive. Yeah. This is when when do we find out who gets this like how many days of this you'd end in about forty five minutes, so at no, I couldn't remember I don't even know what day it is. It is the twenty. Well, thank God. Because we'll ask twelve hours of Twitter have been a lot fun. Fact. I've started naming my notes for the day that I'm talking about instead of the day that the podcast is on because I've found that when I go back to confusing that I'm like, oh, this is labeled the twenty nine th but I'm talking about twenty eight. So if I ever get the date wrong in the future because of that letting everyone the date wrong. It's just because I have no idea. So we get after the addiction. We had some responses to the the vixen. Action Natalie and Ricky we're talking Natalie Natalie in Lolo in particular were kind of like, hey, like people shouldn't be upset that we're playing better than them. Like, just stop it. The equivalent of the year just jealous. Ena Ricky's like, yeah, you're right. They're playing terribly the other side. They don't know what they're doing. He knows how to pump tires. I will say that very good at like like being like. Yeah. It's you that's doing really good rookie was really like lighting the women's fire all after the veto. And it was kind of. I don't know how it has to be pretty intentional something about Joey said, Joey said something about them batting eyelash something like that. And then. Yeah. They got real fired up, and I don't I didn't see whether this actually happened like who pretty. Ricki tells you something like you have no idea. He's just trolling this conversation average place. They got real riled up and went on this feminist rant this. I mean, I support but like full it's manufactured by. I on one hand. It's like I kind of I kind of liked it by Ricky because he's kidding them to go off about against people who are going to be in the jury on the other hand. It's like, whoa. I don't know. I don't know if the jury is gonna like it or not like it, certainly not Lolo Natalie. I don't know how they're going to respond to to Ricky's thing. Think things that are like hard to imagine. Like, I don't know. Joe, Joey, you know, being bitter towards the end he is bitter towards the girls. Like like that is a real thing by he's like Ricky's just kind of making up things that that were actually set weren't actually it's possible. He's not making it up. Now. It's possible. So taymor and Joey have a conversation. This is when I was like, all right. The two of them. Their work one of them needs to h she's like, hey, we need to get it together to win take shot at the other side, we need to do this. Let's go. Let's go. I wasn't ready for that. Yeah. Yeah. Talk. So so the other sides so tame our says all we need to do is new Mead Dina and candy one of us wins. We just gotta tape one of them out. And then it's even and then Joey like, okay. I'm good backed about man. Hero Lolo and Natalie really really upset with the with the man enjoying particularly Ricky let them know that Joey is coming after them and they're like. Joey has no right to be upset that he's losing. He turned down our offer of an alliance. Lo-lose really has selective memory about the first couple of days where it's like actually you never ended up proposing the alliance too. So I mean old oh mess up on Joey's. Yeah. That like. That isn't exactly how it went. You didn't go to ask him. Like, you didn't actually ask him to be in the alliance. And then he said, no, I don't wanna be an alliance like you were in the situation where you're going to have that conversation, and he is an idiot and starts talking about how he hates alliance. And then you're like, oh JK, and these distinctions, well, they may seem petty are very important in a game where he is going to go back and watch this conversation and see that like their justification for smack talking him is that he turned down their proposal of an alliance when he's like you didn't propose an alliance to me. What are you like you are already on shaky ground when you're when you're trash talking somebody, you better get your facts straight, right? Like Stanger's territory. This is what happened with Ross. So I have to believe that that is the version of the story that Lolo believes like there's so many conversations happening, and this is literally their entire life. So in her. You know that that's what how she remembers it. But or how she presents it to other people. There's so much like retelling of things. And it's like you switch a few words and like a couple different spots. And it's a totally different story. But in your brain, you pulled it the way that it actually happened. So I mean, I don't want a dog Lolo too much. But that is exactly the kind of stuff that comes back to bite you in the ass because it's it's literally you ship. A few words, and it's a very different, you know. Like, schema bent. So. Yeah. So low low Natalie they're also they're mad Joey is coming after them because they feel why why why why why he's coming after us instead of Tom and Kato they should they should be going after Tom and Cato. What what why us that's not fair Lolo, she regrets crying for Ryan? I should never him. And they feel like Kato is a big threat, and they need to watch out for him because he's taken to people out. Now, they feel like essentially that he's able to diffuse his target and that he's he's winning things. They need to be careful of Kato. Which actually kinda don't because they're like he's so good at the game. I'm like. And I'm like really like, but it's interesting. It's interesting to note. Yeah. I mean of those of the three guys in their alliance. I really think that Kato is the person that they should be lease concerned about because one. He's absolutely the most loyal to them. Like, he's the most like go team about this five person alliance. And also he doesn't have good game instincts. Like, he's just had power. And just kind of does what he wants to do and doesn't really take other people's opinions into account like that's not that's not a great player. But the perception of him, I guess is that he is running shit. And so they are worried about him. I honestly think of any of in this five lines with Tom Ricky, and Cato Cato could probably be convinced to take one of the women to the end over Tom. I think that that's possible. So the, but again, there's definitely some cracks in this alliance. But unfortunately, when when Kato is in his sort of in charge of making some decisions, we're never going to see those cracks do anything. Hopefully in the future. We will see them do something. So we have a very long H competition. It was an individually timed thing. It was a haunted house kind of thing themed thing I think sort of similar to the blackbox challenge where thinking yes, you go in you try to find something and all of that. What I've been referring to since the start of the podcast tame. Did not compete. This is it super clear that she did not compete because the coffee I wasn't going to like I wasn't going to do that. And if they had told me that I was going to have to do this going, and I would have said, no. But like, hey, mar also is like very gifted in the art of hyperbole. So like, I don't know if she's just being dramatic that she just like didn't do. Well, or did she legitimately like not do that the task like diet what I'm still not clear on that is why I tried to get some clarification on this because I it's hard to believe that she genuinely did did not compete. But I believe what was said is something along the lines of that. Like, hey, I made the right decision. Not doing that. Because I'm not doing that. Like that's not what I'm here for. I'm glad that. I didn't do it. I mean, saying how terrified she was being like a couple like eat off the ground. I mean, if it was a scary competition like everyone was saying, there's probably no way and how she was going to win anyway. So maybe maybe she's right? And that she made the right decision and not even bothering that. Like, she kept her emotions in check by not putting yourself through on unnecessary stress. So isn't gonna win. Anyway. Maybe that's how she sing it. But when you she knows that she's Anna minority position in the house like. Here's the thing about underdogs. They need to win competitions. If they don't even play in competitions than they are not an underdog. They're just they're just useless. The why are they even there? But like, you know, if that man Joey on her side, and she doesn't even need to win. It doesn't matter. It was literally only two people could win this H competition to make it interesting. It was Joey or taymor taymor took a look at the thing. And she was like. Well, candy could've made it interesting. I don't know I've possibly but not. As interesting. Yeah. It's it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I'm looking forward with being how that gets handled on the on the show on with it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I talked to last night on twitch in particular about like, I just feel like the twist in the beginning that put Jonathan on the block. It's the third nominee twist where you put somebody up that the did not want on the block it gives the majority in opportunity to. To make an H from the minority. Invalid. Right. So. Ryan was in the majority for like a day, then he was in the minority. And so this minority group of the guys should have been able to at least have their h take a shot at the other side. And then we would have had Kato win the next one. He would he would have taken a shot back at the guys. And then the numbers would still be relatively even we still see some some something of a fight. But instead Ryan had to take out one of his own allies as a minority in the house, and then the then he couldn't even compete, and then we had very few options to win in the next h and then another guy gets taken out. And now, we're probably going to see a third guy get taken out because Tom wasn't fact the winner of this. And unless Tom does something to surprise us and make us excited. It does seem like, you know, we're going to be losing either taymor or Joey most likely Joey as it currently appears I there is a conversation later. Like, I'm not putting that in stone. There's a conversation later in the night between Tom and Kato and Ricky and they do express some some concern about candy. And that she you know, she knows what she's doing apparently like Cato made a big deal. But the fact that like the mooch said that she's going to win or something like that. And then he's like risks. Mar like, we should be careful like, and they're definitely they seem. I I don't know. I watched this conversation. Maybe things have changed again since then. But it did seem like they were entertaining the possibility of making candy actually the target. So I mean of the possibilities that would have been the most exciting and shaking up the game, you know, this isn't ideal. But from that side of the house, I'm happy that Tom went wins. At least at least we get the gift of Tom HOA or a couple of days. Him up in his room and all of that. But he he actually acknowledges that candy is a little bit dangerous, and that she has no problem just kind of walking into rooms. And just speaking her mind, and they do seem a little bit threaten, and he acknowledged that he has a good relationship with Joey. So I I'm trying to hold onto some hope like that. May maybe keep Tamar, and Joey I can't believe I'm saying that I want Joey this day. But that's like even if it is candy. It's basically the main power structure will. Say it will stay in place. But basically what it's looking like to me is that the power structure that formed essentially on day two is going to last until like the last couple of victims. It's seeming like that might be the case unless the women get power and turn on Kato that might be kind of interesting because they think that he's a little bit threatening. But. This is not exactly you know. This is looking a bit like the dreaded Steve recall. And I think it's all that. I lists fault. I really do. I feel like it started. And it happens every single time. They do something like that. They eat to try it on the first week. And even on the first week it screws it up, I think so. Unfortunate blaming it on. The twist how shocked. I went into a whole tirade last night on Twitter. I'm telling you people people get upset about how much I really twist, but I really genuinely feel like. Almost everything that anyone ever complains about most of it can be traced back to a poor production decision. Most of those poor production decisions are involved around some kind of twist or another, and I really think that this. Initial twist really screwed us up here. I disagree. I am fully on board with the fact that the first week of the shell was massive mishandling on productions part between you know, that twist and the mooch mystery that I still who knows what that was really about. They they really did botch like the beginning of this. And when you have such a small group like something as minor as that first week twist like you said really does change the whole course of that. And you're probably right that we're going to get less strategic drama from the rest of the season. But thank God that we still these. These people seem to have enough social. Chaos between them that. At least will maybe get something. Interesting out of that. Like, I. Our biggest our biggest hope here is Tom because after he won the he did say with great power comes great responsibility. I'm gonna make I've got some big decisions to make not sure I'm going to do which is going to surprise some people. If it's surprising people, then I think will be happy because the only way to surprise his alliance is to basically, try them. Right. Like, there's no other thing that would surprise them unless he thinks that like trying to target candy would surprise them. But I don't think it would. Yeah. He he does say something about not doing what you think or something. But like. He does this whole near. And then he's like oh loss happened today. I'm not going to tell you about it. Like, we gotta wait and see it's gonna be a big day tomorrow. And I really just wanna know if he's just teasing I. And if he's actually going to do something different because that would be fantastic. But like I said before that side of the house someone winning h thank God. It's Tom like, I don't think that we would be getting much out of like a Lolo for Ricky Asia. Well, maybe it would have been a little authorized to nose. This is the best of the worst possibility. Yes, I agree. I think that if anyone who's gonna win on in the power structure, it's I'm glad it's Tom because he's been trying to to shake things up for the last couple of Vic shins and he's been unable to because he has no power. Now, he has some power. It'd be lovely. If he if you like if he was able to to shake some stuff up here he wants to talk to everyone individually coffee time. I love this idea. So adorable and he's talking to candy about how he wants to do this. But it seems like that that idea kind of gets stomped by Ricky Kato, where they they they don't know if there's huge pro to doing these coffee chat. So I don't know. We'll see those today. But I it's it's because Tom is one of the few people that actually went and watched more than just a couple of episodes. Last night. Like, I would like an like Kato and Ricky like oh who like season, they only know celebrity big, brother. That's literally the only season that they're aware actually know why would you talk to everyone individually like people tell you things like I learned something. Frustrating because like Tom has good game in sinks. And then he sits in a room with like Kato who just like funerals anything that he has to say with you know. Yes. Kato did end up spilling a lot of information to to candy like telling her what the thought process behind back during Ryan saying he's closely working with Tom just 'cause like she was talking with. And she was like, I'm not sure how feeling right now. And he was just like, oh, let me just tell you everything that I now, basically. Sending the worth second hand embarrassment watching this conversation because like Cato like like HAMAs where we're like a gather, and she's like, yeah, I know like notion, and then Tong comes in and Cato's like I told her that like you, and I were pal just so like those thoughts, please stop talking. This is just so uncomfortable for everyone involved, including the people watching at like on their life. This is bad. Tom Kato and Ricky had a conversation that you were going to where they talked about the plan for the week Kato is saying that he would like if it was candy and tame on the block, and then they backed or Ricky backdoor, Joey Ricky was pretty much on board with that. As you mentioned. There was talk of potentially making candy the target as well. And also, I feel like Ricky was maybe pushing toward hey, what if we got ta mar. So there's a lot of debate about like, basically, which of those three Tom said Dina's kind of off the table. He doesn't wanna take DNA out. So it's looking like either candy tame mar or Joey we'll be targeted. What's interesting is that again, it looks like the power is likely going to tame our unless there's a like crazy late last second surge for Joey which I doubt there will would be which. Means that taymor will have this power. And I'm still not exactly sure at this power is. But I was thinking about it more last night. And the fact that it can be used at nominations or veto ceremony. Really makes me think that it's more like Paul's. Pendant of protection, or whatever it was. Where basically the first the second you touch the block it automatically gets used that feels like that to me because otherwise there's no point in not like Tyler because Tyler had to make the decision before the thing happened which made little more inundate. There is still very little point to using it at a nomination ceremony. But at least it made a little bit of sense. Whereas if this happens after then there's zero point is absolutely no point to use it at nomination ceremony. I'm looking for logic in people who are bad at making decisions, which I disagree with their twists decisions all the time. So it might just make no sense. However, I trying to grasp at some kind of logic. It only makes sense if it just automated gets activated the second you touch the block so and then like she safe or Vito arena. So I would assume so what a him. But that means like, you know. So what I'm expecting potentially is. That candy is in about a half hour in about a half hour is going to receive this power. And then a couple hours later she's going to be nominated, and then it's going to be activated. And then she's going to be off the block. And then we're gonna end up with Joey and candy on the block, the power will be completely neutralized and. And then we're going to see probably Joey leave. Yeah. Possibly maybe candy. I don't know. I'm still I still feel like Tom identifies that Joey being around isn't the worst his game. And I have a little bit of hope that. He may be might be a little bit more assertive and push or him to stay. But I guess if the votes are locked into get rid of than he doesn't have power. I really wanna see Tom like he's so good. He's so good at you know. Letting people like do what they wanna do and kind of just like subtly putting in his inside and not being pushy and like steam early Kato is that I think that's a really great part of his game. And that's a winning quality to as well. But I do worry about him not being assertive enough when this his h in that conversation with Ricky Kato when they're having beer. He like Ricky even acknowledged he's like, oh, you keeping Joey is better for your game. And like this is your age oh age. So like not putting him on the block. So that if he like comes down, and he's not mad at you that kind of makes sense. So like I have a little bit of hope that he's not going to make decision that is not best for him. But the problem is that even if he wants Joey safe the only way to keep Joey safe is to not nominate him and as soon as tamer is safe. Joey is his only option to nominate on to to put up next to candy. And so once once Joey is up next to candy, the women will will vote them out. Not what I'm saying is like I'm worried that he doesn't have the the influence to with his alliance to get them to to take out candy instead. Yeah. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. A publicist publicist power going wrong. I can't imagine that. That's fine. Screw anything up the best power. Yes. Lone ranger in the chat. Here says has the exact wording, which doesn't exactly clear, but just in case you're wondering power of the publicist will allow the chosen how to remove him or herself from nomination at one of the next two nomination ceremonies or veto meetings. The power can only be used once and expires after the meeting on February fourth twenty nineteen whether it is used or not. So again, it just makes no sense for it to. Elected to be chosen like nobody would ever choose to use it. I lo- again people who don't understand the game might choose to use it at a nomination ceremony that I guess, but. Obviously, I think that the second March is the block either it's going to automatically be used or she's just going to come out and say, I'm using it. And then she'll be safe for the whole week or whatever. But they're essentially where if HAMAs nominates today are candy, and Joey not an I don't know that that's what he's going to do. But is there situation where the nominees are candy, and Joey and k mar uses her power like. I'm just trying to figure out is there any way that this can get used to save it would save her. But if like candy won the veto or something like that or Joey won the veto, then I guess the other one's still goes home. Right. And then they would put like like sina off or something like as on. They still send me other personnel. Okay. Well script. Base. If we want to see anything like the power is going to be flushed out this week almost almost definitely and and it's probably going to be fleshed out in a situation where the person wasn't going to go home anyway. And then. We're probably going to basically unless Tom decides to betray the five person team fun alliance. We're gonna we're gonna see either Joey or candy leave this week. Awhile. We'll waive Italy fun. It's team fun. Ricky, Tom bring us some fun today. I need it. Yes. So I mean, really I think this season we're we're just kind of waiting for everyone else to leave. So this this five-person thing can turn any. Yeah. Yeah. I guess what's the optimal Thomas? Unfortunately last season. It was they they stopped the game at around four. So our done now. Everyone else leave that would be that'd be a little unfortunate. But we'll see we'll see how it goes. So that's what we've got for you today, unless there was anything else that you wanted to bring up Jenny now that I'm though how many days of Tom H? Do we get just because em having his own room to do his his night-time stuff is just everything I could have hoped or and more true believe the next eviction is Saturday. So we're gonna get full Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday, that's four days plus the victim day. So it's a long one. Right. That's all I wanted as if I have to deal with someone in power. It's tom. That's great. I'm I'm happy about that you after you have to just try and find the bright spots when when the game ends up in the position at that. Right. Five days is longtime for Tom to stick to a boring plan. That's all I'm saying come on time. And he yeah, he made. I don't know. I feel like he needs to be entertained, and he's he knows what he's doing game. I just I think that he feels like maybe it's a little too early to do anything that bold. Also in so many small we can we can root for Tom to betray lines. But I don't think it's an it's best interests. And that's the thing. I probably isn't. I think that it's an his best interests though, for Joey because Joey really light on they ever good thing. So at least if you know, he ends up winning h he's in good hands that way, if he was able to keep Joey and like on the download tell Joey that he's keeping him safe. I Joey is is the kind of person who would take Tom to the end, no matter what. And so I've Tom was able to sneak Joey into the endgame, then Tom would have an extra especially if he's able to sneak Joey and Kato I think they would both take him like that. So anybody could pick Joey up that way. Joey is is very. Amenable to just like sure I'm down to work with you. I will give you all of my loyalty. Joey is not about betrayals. He's not about negative energy. If you if the first person to give him anything he will be one hundred percent loyal to and take them to the end. And so if Tom was able to do that, it would be great. And if he was able to do that without betraying his alliance this week. It would be even better. However with tame are having the power, it seems very unlikely that it's that it's going to be possible. It's too bad. Joey really does want a friend. Oh, the one thing that I actually did want quickly bring up something. I'm still not clear about what happened but something seem to happen during the HOA Jesse between Ricky and Joey. And so I I mean, it's it's not clear, but he did something to him or there was some sort of conversation and it sounded like Joey kind of backed off. But he's talking about how like normally he would talk through. It was very confusing. What what what actually happened, but he has a conversation with candy and our afterwards, and they all kind of acknowledged that. There's like the switch that flips with Ricky where all of a sudden need he kinda like goes off. So it sounds like there was some sort of tension between the two of them. While the feeds are off yesterday. Just I almost got to mention that's a thank you for bringing up very important. Note actually because. I've been talking about how Ricky had that one thing happened with Tom. But other than that, he's been totally fine. I think he could easily win in the end. However, it happened again apparently during the competition or something along those lines Joey was saying something along the lines of. I'm glad that that behavior. Didn't get rewarded. I'm glad you one Tom. You must have been like close second place or something like that just sounded like he was like he almost one or something talking about it. Ricky. My be the final to go Lolo hopes. He will be. I don't know. It's possible. If you continue if he continues to just have that flip if it happens more than you know, I really because I think that he is potentially in the best spot in the entire game to win to win the whole thing. All he needs to do is not be a jerk. But he he might not be able to help himself. Just gets cranky. Sometimes I don't know he loses. His then any just go off. But yeah. So definitely tame our and candy were agreeing with Joey that they knowledge that there's there's something with him. So I mean, he might not be as universally like this as we think, and they're still a lot of time for more of these things to happen. So I'm really interested to see what what really went on between the two of them because he was pretty upset. Yes. And just just I'm still just so disappointed in Tim. Say that again. Player. Not a player not RV down on Joey. At least it competes in the competitions. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us. Involves into their I'm at a restaurant Taryn, Jenny working people. Find you Twitter Instagram at Jenny autumn. There you go. I will. Of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the feeds, and we have the next episode is going to be tomorrow night. And we will be recapping everything that happens. 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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 27 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

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Big Brother Canada 7 | March 27 | Wednesday Morning Update Podcast

"Doc. Rather? Yes. John. And sandy. Sees no. The reason is you. That he could do to Morrow will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for February fourth. I'm gonna turn Armstrong. And with me today is the magnificent meth local magnificent. Hello. Hi, tehran. Hi, everyone doing great to be back over everyone's been enjoying celebrity big brother to it's been pretty wild ride this far. And I think all of those that were like waiting for a dramatic Bill season. You've got what you want. Did that you are like living in relishing very moment. Because you know, this is as much as the feed keep cutting and don't they put all this stuff in the episode? Just take what it is. And be grateful that we're even getting live entertainment. Yes. We are here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds it was bit of a slow day here. So it's gonna be a quicker update. There's I think more drama in the sports world and in the big brother twenty world than there was in for this elaborate last night. Oh, yeah. So no way goodness. Gracious. Oh boy. So let's talk about the feeds yesterday as I mentioned was a very slow day. However, we started the day with lots of stuff that wasn't important, but we also had taymor Natalie low low and Ricky talking about candy that they feel threatened by candy. They feel like she was trying to help Kato in the H competition. So they wanna make sure that Kato or the candy is also on the hit list soon. Yeah. I mean, it's getting out of the game where you know, the like, you just need to find any kind of reason to get rid of people, even if you've been working with them to a certain degree. I know that like taymor and candy have been sort of like, you know, making up after quite a motorist relationship in that house. But at the same time, you know, you really got to start thinking about your any game. And is somebody that you really think that you can take the end does she have the most winters equity right now is she kind of like the most liked in the house, or at least the least disliked in the house in you win vote against there. And I think that. I, you know, whether or not it's about her helping Kato or if it's about low building that she will have the vote in the end because she's been popping off when everybody's much the point the finger at other people kinda remains to be seen. But I mean the that point of the game where you got to really start thinking. Hey, is this somebody that I can get to the end. It's getting down to the wire. Yeah. My favorite my favorite current subplot on the big brother celebrity to live feeds is Natalie in low talking about how other people won't have jury votes to win the game. I mean. Minna draft with them friends. And I was I was really really hoping my perfect team in my mind at the time would have been Jonathan. Kato and Natalie, and I really really wanted Natalie because I was like I was battling between the two of willower Natalie. And I'm like, I really didn't Lola's mouth when to get her in trouble a lot more than Natalie's out of anybody out of the two Nellie definitely is the superior player because you think a little bit more reserved a little bit more, you know, think for she speaks. But I mean, the two of them they really they really really should not be talking about anybody about these because you have been running around this house. Learn about like. Come on. Stuff awareness. Yes. We did also get Kato, and Tom I mentioned yesterday that Tom was trying to maintain a positive attitude, but then after his conversation with Ricky and tame mar about how they need to apologize because they're they're misogynists and all of this stuff. Tom's sort of interest in the game has been waning. He is talking about kind of like if I wouldn't veto. I'll just use it on UK toe and Kano's like, oh if I wouldn't veto all use it on you. And they're like, oh, no, no. I wouldn't let you do that. They're just they're just kind of like, oh man wonder when do we leave again? When do we stop being accused of things that are going to ruin career, right? Definitely like hard sit there, and you know, kind of b be in a power station, and you know, the people that you were against sort of gaining that power that kind of swallow. But one thing that I noticed I don't know if we will older Cass or just, you know, we've been getting so much drama. It's more noticeable now, but I just feel like, you know, they get straight down to the game. They're playing hard and in a minute that there's like. There's like opposition to them. It's like they kind of just shut down. It's like, okay. Well, if they're too good of a sports at the point. They're like, oh, well, you know, like, you guys got me like, we were you. But it's fine. Like you keep fighting come on. There's one of you will stay one of you will state's to have to. We're gonna do when the other one. Yes, they do eventually get there by the end of the day. But but yeah, they're definitely subdued here. Tom even said one point during the day, he was like like my my instincts like everything in me wants to be an instigator right now and to be Tom green. But he feels like he can because of like the stuff going around that like he needs to make sure that people know that he is not attacking anyone like he doesn't want to have that image something that I saw when I was researching Tom green prior to the season is that for a long time. There's a rumor there still is I guess that. He did this very offensive. Give prank where he went to a bar mitzvah dressed as Hitler. And like, whoa. That's terrible. Like. Never happened. As far as I'm aware. He denies it to this day. There's no footage of it is nobody in everything's this is the case. There was just like a rumor that was started. But it's like been haunting his career forever. I'm sure this is something that like he is like I do not want anything like this to be like surrounding me. So he is trying to be on his best behavior. I think to make sure like, hey, let's I don't I don't I don't need any of this right now. This is not worth the damage. It could do to my career, right? And I mean, I feel you know of anything production is beginning to privy to that because they've seemed to be editing. In those little way that show the leaf the motto confrontation, especially if it gets down to you know, the name calling, you know, bullying massage and all of that stuff. They seem to kind of just wanna be year away from that which can be frustrating for a lot of levies because they wanna see what is being said. They wanna see what's you these moves behind these players? But at the same time like I can understand, you know, wanting to be like, can we brother here, we just can somebody h nominate two people the money when the veto. They could not use it move on. I mean, I I understand it. I mean, it's unfortunate to see. It's really hinders somebody's game. But at the end of the day of are celebrities, though, they're thinking about ads promoting show when he leaves. So you know, he went to his show. I feel like in particular production has had sort of like the kid gloves on with these celebrities. I think they did kind of last year as well. I think the basically like they want drama, but they don't want this kind of drama because if they're never going to get anyone to agree to do the show if they feel like well, come on and then Mike tank because people throw around these Asians or whatever. So or I'll just look super terrible on like like an Lolo or Natalie's gays like I'll just look like such a jerk that nobody will ever like me again. So I think they really are trying to be like they want the drama, but they don't want. They don't want people to hate hate anyone on the show because they want celebrities to feel like this. Not going to be career suicide for them. Right. Yeah. In especially in today's day and age where like any little thing, and that the people that have been canceled, thus far don't have viable reasons to be cancelled. But we are living in a state of cancel coacher. So I think that people really walk on shows that they are being as you know. As with the word as knife of possible. Yes. These these people these players should have listened to the podcast. Right. Fray like that was like everybody needs to listen to that quired reading. The season of reality television. Just the people can just you know. Inoculate yourself. Nice. It's not that hard. Really not that. So they did they did talk a little bit. Tom cato. Tom's idea is okay. Maybe if I act pathetic enough like I don't even want to be here at all. Then if you win the veto keto, you're trying you want to be here. You win the veto. You take yourself off my spirit is broken. I don't even wanna be here. I'm so pathetic. Maybe they'll decide it's not even worth voting me out in the vote out the replacement, and that's how we can both. I mean, I. Yeah. I mean, it's something playing dead has worked for some people. It has not a lot. But. What else do you do what else can you where you've been at war with these people for so long? And you thrown words back at each other that, you know, there really is no solution to this other than that somebody has got to go. So I mean, but. You know who knows like sometimes as quickly as quickly. It's confrontations come up in this house with this particular group of houseguests, somebody is very likely to say something to rub some of the wrong way. Especially if someone as volatile as. So you know, it is definitely lifting your behavior in the house. It could work it could work probably not going to. But it's something. Yeah. I mean, I think that when you have two people on the block, and you want both of them to be saved that you have two options. One is you make an alliance or some kind of deal with the majority of the house. That's definitely off the table. The other one is this plan, I guess which could fee- radically work in a situation where the replacement nominee is not going to be Dina, and you've won two competitions and Dina's one nine and it's going to be you've versus Tina. And there's just no way anybody, no matter. How pathetic you're acting is ever gonna vote Dina off before you, right? I mean once you sort of create an image for yourself in this game. It's really hard to shed that. That's why the beginning of the game is so crucial because that is when you begin to, cultivate, that image. That's when the people's first impressions will compound, and you just have to it's like continuously working against others, impressions of you. And if you've gone so far down one end, it's really really hard to get that that balance too. It's hard. Candy is going to do some work here. I mentioned yesterday that tame Mars best move, actually, probably is to target Tom and Cato at this point just because you know, I think her best chance to get to the end and win means not pissing off Natalie low low and Ricky the ideal situation would have been to not win this H and let those two groups go at each other. So that she doesn't have to get involved and give them more advantages to one side. However, she's now in this position. And being in this position. I do feel like she just she needs to stay on their good side as much as possible. Do they will keep her until at least the final five ish? Maybe final four if its final four. That's her best case scenario, I think because she could potentially win against any of the three of them. And all she needs to do is when one competition, it's still not a great spot to be in. But it's better than nothing. However for candy. It's fantastic. If she convinces tame are to turn against those three because that. That makes everything wonderful for candy. So candy is doing making an attempt here to talk taymor into betraying the group of three Ricky lo lo and Natalie in particular, low Natalie because she feels like Natalie is a big threat to win because she thinks that Natalie's just gonna take Lolo Natalie's go easily beat low low. And there you go Natalie is the winner of the game. But says it's too early to early. I mean is it. I mean is it though taymor because the game is really like. I appreciate with candies because it's does a lot of you know. You know, this is like one of those prime examples of someone that doesn't really know the game coming in and really getting the hang of it. I think this you're less hindered by you'll viewing past seasons and conventional strategies of the game. So I feel like you kind of just you kinda you don't need all that other extra information about the game. You just like Natalie seems like she is in the best decision. Right now is exactly what we need to get it. And I think that it's really private tuition to sort of use the history that she has with pay more look at what we've been able to overcome look at like how much making in this house like she's kind of capitalizing on the the good good field. Feel-good dealing with. Come on like this together, we might as well just rockface out into the ends. And I guess tame our she's nervous because you don't want to. I mean, she's been going at it with low on the low like most of the time. So I don't really wants to their even though she's a bear herself. So I get that. But this this game is so is so fast. Like, I think that it really I think that really benefit from quickness issues I do. I mean. Yeah. The too early excuses. I think again, there's reasons for taymor not to turn on them too early. The reason. Especially when the finale is just over a week away. But you know, we'll see candy. I think correctly points out if it doesn't happen now it's not going to happen, which I think is completely correctly again yesterday. I said I think that this week is going to be seen as like this. It's this wage that allows one of Ricky Lolo sorry, one of Ricky or Natalie to win the game. So I do agree with that. I do think that they still have the best shot at winning the game. Despite the fact that this is taymor Mars best hope at this point. I think again winning this h was just disastrous for her in the first place and taymor says, no, no, no, no, Tom and Cato both have to go. I they both have to go. And that's where it's like. Okay. I think I still think the taymor is doing the right thing with her HOA JR. But her game plan is all wrong. She does not want both Tom and Kato to go. That would be terrible for she wants one of them to win h. Next week to go after that trio split them up a little bit that would give some kind of chance. But no, she wants them both gone, and then she wants Dina Khan. And then she wants to turn on them. I think or maybe she doesn't want a gun, but it still then she if she wanted to be three three at at best to her candy and Dina versus low low Ricky and Natalie in the competitions, which is a wo-. I don't think that's a great spot for you. Like, yeah. When you want I don't know why you would want to get rid of both of like tomato at the same time. I really love that we've come up with name. Chryslers? But yeah, like, you know, get rid of one of them keep the other one. Hopefully when h h and even if they don't win h h if somebody from yours, though, China and go after them, hopefully, and not you, and especially if you had that power you knew your way to be safe this week. I don't know why even put yourself in condition and just use your power. Let it rob. Yeah. I mean, I think I think he's probably going to have around for a little bit longer. So a mutt. Too. I'm not too scared about her demise in this game. But I as far as being able to win in the end as the man that's rooting for her. She's really shooting herself in the foot here. So you know, what good is it getting to the end if you can't pull up the win. I believe Brent will be on tonight to recap the the vixen, and we where we will find out who want H, and I'm I'm expecting a large print rand 'cause he I know he's rooting for taymor. So I'm sure he's annoyed at this decision to win Choate. H h. So. Candy says look if they both go I'm going to be on the block at least as upon like, I'm going to be in trouble. If both Tom and Cato and tamers. You'll maybe we'll go on the block, but you'll stay don't worry. It's fine. Don't worry about it. It's really not not really taking. What candy is saying? She for what it's worth. I don't think candy made a particularly good pitch. This first time she's gonna try again later with a slightly better pitch. But a lot of her pitch revolved around this idea of like, well, if you do this, then I'll be in trouble too, which tamers able to be like well, first of all you're in trouble and second. No, you'll be fine. So so it didn't didn't really work this first time. So she's going to try again later in the day. But for now taymor is is stuck on this idea. Yeah. And that that sort of pitch are really ever work for people that are like in this, you know, in alliance, but like not like if it's solid final two people are more willing. Oh, it's okay. Just chill. Just lay low this week. I'm in control going to be okay. You're not gonna go home on the more willing to sort of roll the dice with your game. Even if they are and alliance with you if it's not a final two. So I mean, I think you just you have to kind of like, you kinda you gotta you gotta work at different angle with with the way team are. Yeah. Early do Lolo Natalie and Ricky are talking about the following the next h they are considering throwing the next one because they have people like taymor willing to do their work for them. So why not throw the next one? And then all be able to compete in the one after that where they're finally ready to turn on those people that are doing the work for them. However, they ultimately decide probably not worth risk here. Just just win it. They honestly after this week. I could very easily see a situation where they just went out from that point on, you know. From from a mental standpoint they have people they've been studying along time, they're certainly capable. And then from a physical standpoint, I think they would just completely. They're all three of them are athletes versus non athlete, so any physical competition is going to be just a breeze. Not that there are likely many of them left. Although we said that in big brother twenty and they were a whole lot of them left. So you never know. And given the fact that they really should have been able to win a lot of ease in the past and avenue and people have still in the house and one we'll keep getting victims. You guys you have any youth? Not win these damn competitions. You are the house like come on like Joe show with what you can do. So at this point like rowing really when the Alliant like throwing the H at this late in the game. Like, no, what are you doing just win the wage retain the power boring for us out here? But once again, this expedited and things. Change quickly, you might as well get as much power as you can sort of the end just your safety at that. At the very least. So Tom Cato are talking again, they they talk about who they would like to see win the game. Now, they're pretty sure neither of them are going to get their Tom says, no Kato, you're going to do it. You're gonna win. He's like, oh, it wouldn't it be great though to see to see DNA win. Wouldn't it be great? She's such a great lady. What about candy? It would be awesome to see candy win. Right. Candy and Dina, obviously, I think just to reinforce the point the biggest jury threats in the game. I mean, they so petty petty like you got beat it's fine. Dana, Dino, really, look, I made the case the other day, I genuinely feel like Dina's playing better game than the rest of them. Because of all of the trash they've been talking like, you just can't expect to win a jury vote when you do that. I mean, I sure sure socially. Speaking is up there. She she's Switzerland right now, I get it. But I mean. Maybe it's just the way that fundamentally to game. I would much rather give somebody the win if they are instrumental in the progression of the game. And it's Vena stole. Deana? But that's one before. So I don't wanna just completely threw a rock bed. But I right now like, they're just they're butthurt. So they just don't want to give the win to anybody else. Because the votes they both have been throwing things back at win and others. So it's like when you get out of the house, and you decompress way, are you still going to go the way or you could go ahead and watch everything these said of just old in your case or to win the game. I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's fine. Brother. So I'm more inclined to be different types of visions being made. But as of right now, I would be kind of wet I will say I have seen arguments. And I think I'm actually kind of on board a little bit here that the DNA. I mean, I pointed this out a while ago. The is is playing like she's playing a floater game. If you watch her in the house, like she has no genuine loyalty to anyone other than her loyalty to Jonathan Jonathan's been gone for a long time. Now, she's willing to throw anyone under the bus to like how intentional it is. Who knows? But she will go to anyone would be like. Yeah, I'm totally going to work with you all the time. And then go to the other side and be like, yeah, I'm totally working with you. And just the fact that she's such a non threat she's able to slide by for a while. Is it is it like great game play. No. Is it? Good game play. Probably not is it something. Yes. And honestly, I feel like with the entire house. I don't think anybody's playing great. I don't think anybody's playing good. I think that all we're seeing in this is something. So if you've got something, and you're nice, I do feel like that for me quantifies a winning game honest, though. I mean, okay. Open to having my mind change. I've definitely as I said on Twitter like this past week. I've been like kingdom hearts craze. Are we so I haven't been able to really notice all of the new ones in being game to me for someone who was sort of like living in an out like, okay? Okay. There's high Beena, okay. Okay. I'll go back and watch this in the end if she does win, and you come up with this brilliant podcast about. You have made. Deana? I will definitely be like. Okay. Like, yes. All hell. Queen Beena the second coming of June. I will definitely throw at her feet. But as the right now, I'm like a little bit skeptical. But at the same time point taken that not everybody's game in this house has been quote unquote, winning games. This is these this particular batch of houseguests are so just like. If it is the top is generally toss right now. And like, I also I completely believe me. I see where you're coming from his. Well, I think everyone knows my stance on. Juries in general and voting based on feelings and all of that nonsense. So I'm certainly open to the other thing as well. Honestly, if if it came down to like DNA, or I honestly DNA or Natalie I feel like. I feel like they both played like and maybe Natalie's played better, but dean has been nicer, and I genuinely could make a case for both of them. Same thing with Dino Ricky Lolo I think's genuinely genuinely has not played well enough to win. So mad. I did not get her in my it's making me. So mad everything that I wanted. No to be Natalie billion that spot right now. On that one. All right. So. Anyway, Tom Cato are going to go up on the block here. They are nominated by mar and Lolo Natalie Ricky are they'll agree Kato is going I know change there. We gotta get rid of Kato. Yep. You're in the course that if she even wanted they should we leave the nomination same. So in Spokane one of the two is definitely out of leaning more towards palm is that the correct assumption right now if they if if cater wins. No it. Oh, if if the both of them are still in the block the catering to go first. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We'll go first. Ok well, that's great. That's good for my draft. I really did not do. Well. Around. I look I've got people to chat like, no Taryn. We're not here for DNA win stuff. It's like listen. I'm not saying I'm here for Dino win. That is not what I'm saying. Put him saying is if she won I can understand why I actually do feel like she like if anyone deserves. I don't think anyone deserves to win this game. If we could just stop it now and say, no winners, I'd be totally cool with that. I don't think Hugh has played well enough to win this game. Yeah. As far as I'm said. Like, yes, sure. Sure. I don't think that DNA is I'm with you chat. I don't think that should either. But look at what your options are. Secondly, happened so far. Okay. I mean, we have the historic low in terms of average ranking on the stock watch for these people. It's just you know, it's not exactly a strategic cast here. You gotta take. Here's my here's my advice for watching the season is just like don't care about the strategy and just feel free to root for whoever you want to root for and just have no qualms about it. Just like, you know, what I am one hundred percent. Edina, STAN go for it. You can be super pleased when Dina wins, and nobody can tell you that she didn't deserve to win. You know, what you can even be a lo-lose, Dan, go for it? Do whatever you want because this is just a free for all at this point. It's so strange because if it'd beginning of laugh, even we got the on the live in the Pete tragedy making a lion talking who was next to go around. They pull them not to do that. Been like neutered or something like didn't allow them to talk strategy. And it didn't even know and they were allowed to when they weren't allowed to talk strategy. So it's like they'd never got never got the practice. Now, the running them up just like going based on promotion and. Hilarious if you're someone that's more strategically inclined. It's probably just wanna rip your hair out. But I I've been. Regained. What I can't met. All right. So Tom Cato who talked a little bit about like, okay? If Cato is do stay if we win h next week. They are starting to plan. What do we do what we do if we h next week? Tom is considering like, okay? Well, we need to target obviously. That trio. Should we put Rick? No, you know, what we should probably do because Ricky's probably the one most amenable to some kind of deal. Right. He's the most like he's the least sort of I talked yesterday about how I feel like if anybody is doing this mean stuff with any sort of strategic intent it's Ricky, and so I do feel like it's this is correct call with Tom even even if there's not like a ton of success that they're going to find trying to make I do feel like Ricky is the correct wanna try to make a deal with. So he talked about potentially try to make a deal with Ricky leave him off the bloc will nominate Lolo in Natalie. And then try to be like, hey, Ricky, will it will work together? Secretly, we will take out one of the one of the women, but we're still good. And and maybe there's a chance that he doesn't come free. The next week. He certainly capable of winning competitions. Again. I actually feel like short doesn't have much of a shot to work. But in terms of like what else do you got? This is probably one of. Plans. You could come up with. Yeah. I mean, you go for the gophers someone actually actually can we talk about the fabled crack in the alliance Ricky's definitely someone that if he isn't cracked yet, you could potentially crack seems like he's open to making deals. He's open. Obviously, he's open to spilling, tea and information to sort of get even the people on his side to do what you want. So. Yeah, I think it's a good. I think it's a good shy. And I think if they're talking about if they aligned with him like going forward, you know being able to use Ricky as a means keeping them safe. Like, I think that that's a good. I think it potentially work. I mean, whether or not Ricky is going to, you know, being that he's in a spa. Maybe I don't know of Ricky has gotten to the point where he's like I'm good now. I'm good. I'm good for the rest of the game. I've made the Streisand and needed a cement. It's like, no matter. What I would not be the ones who go home. If you feel that way. Tom, and Kate or Esa will if not then this could potentially be that point in the game. Like that like musical theater. We have a thing called the ten o'clock number where things just like hike up again. It's could be that point into game where it's like up big. Switch twist. But I, you know, we really have to hope that the tonight whoever remains of Cato Tom win the because I mean, I candy would certainly I think do as well or DNA, but they're given the track record. I think whoever remains of tomor Kate or more likely to win the wage. So I'm definitely pulling for that. So we get some kind of shakeup here. But but honestly, I feel like if if let's say Kato stays, let's say he wins the veto. And then wins the age and then tries to make a deal with Ricky. I feel like Ricky might be like kind of annoyed because he's Ricky about like, oh, man. We lost the power, whatever. But if I'm Ricky, and I feel like there might be some strategic part of him. That's like this. I'd be pretty pleased with the fact that both of the women are going on the block and Natalie would probably go home leaving me and low low as the final two contenders. Like, oh now is not gonna take Natalie. She's gonna take me, and I'm gonna take Lolo. I definitely Lolo. I'm actually kind of okay with this. I'm definitely gonna make deal with UK toe, and then definitely stab you in the back next week. But I'll definitely be okay with what's happening right now at some point. You gotta get you. Gotta get your stand with twine on long. There's not me. I'm good. And you wanna you wanna you wanna get between the two between like, you know to power players. You wouldn't be in that middle spot where it's like. Okay. Well, let them go at it. And you know, if I get the power one if he's going to be mad because I'm gonna make a decision that's going to screw one of you know, matter what I'm going to be, you know, it's not going to be pretty, but it gets me further. So. I could see that happening as well. So we also got again candy pitching. Mar finally a little more effective. This time really just pitching the women need to be targeted. This needs to happen in. We're just gonna let them win the game. They're just going to steamroll and she's starting to break through little bit today. Mark, I think taymor says something along the lines of like, I mean, if I did make a move I would have to talk to Tom and Kato I before I made the move like a veto was used or something that, you know. Yes, if vetoes used you should put Natalie on the block, we can get rid of Natalie. She's I I really do feel like candy has some influence here, maybe because of things outside of the house more than strategic things, but that's still something. And so it's definitely possible that something happen. Although thing is as taymor mentioned. She would have to really talk to Kato and Tom. I that alone would probably not go very well. But also the veto is going to be played live tonight. So there's not really a lot of opportunity. She can't go to them with a backdoor plan before they even have the veto because that could really blow up backfire. So even if one of them one's Vitas probably not enough time to put together, some kind of backdoor Natalie plan. But but I'm mentioning it here because the seeds were planted as unlikely as they are if for some reason Nattily goes home tonight in the first division or not there's two victims. But if Natalie goes home tonight, then this is probably why you you have candy to thing to think for. Something happened along the day or potentially in the in the time between the veto win and the RENAMO, but like I said, not super likely. Yeah. I mean, if not unprecedented decisions that we audience does not get to see how those get made. You know? Not new so definitely if that were to have been video, you'll have everything that you need to understand what the hell happened. And if not then, you know. You know, it is what it is. I'm really hoping that. I mean, honestly say that I was really hoping veto wasn't one of the crops you like last time. But honestly like. Like, oh my God point. All about like team fund is I'm all about that. So, you know. I mean, I would like to see what the vita they usually do on the nations where the run go and sit Bob pay grabbing styles come back and hit the hit the buzzer. Yeah. I I'm for any competition where you can tell what's going on when they when they're more when we're watching live like that's why I know some people weren't a fan of the fact that it was a crap shoot last time. They did the veto. And it was a crapshoot, but I enjoy it because it's like I can very clearly see who's in the lead. And what's happening? The even like the famous clown shoe competition where the running back and forth like it's still hard to tell what's happening in just like waiting for somebody to run back. And it's like how many times did they run back there? Okay. Something that's like, slow paced. That's very visual that you can see. That's that's what I'm all about for these live competitions. But it's usually something that's not quite that. So, and I know I know that's just my opinion. It is what it is. I mean, it'll be it'll be fun regardless. I'm just I'm glad that he gets actually watch this live when I've been working like the pets do so on that front. I know. I know. Something that Chad says mentioning a puzzle. Let's all comment on. Let's not do that. Let's let's not bring back any memories. Although I will say it was very easy to watch the show. I'm gonna say. That's gonna say though, easy. Sorry. East to understand definitely hard to watch. Yeah. There you go. That's that's good. So that's what we've got for. You. Tonight's episode will consist of the H competition, which I believe was some kind of knockout. I think so we'll see that that. Yes taymor is going to win. Then we're going to see the nominations, then we're gonna see the live veto and then the live vote and Vic division, plus exit interview. So I very much doubt that there will be too much juicy nece in between really getting lean lean cuts of the big brother celebrity this season right diet feed, essentially. You know, you want the full picture PBS Alexis. Or spot cast. Right. Alright. So that's what we've got for today. Anything else that he wanted to bring up on? No, I'm I hope. Everyone's been into this thing. It's been great. I've been having a great time. I'm just happy that everything is working back up. Again, we're gonna be getting survivor again. And then big brother Canada, looking to be really, really good. So I'm just as always them. I'm glad to be here. All right. So you can follow some Twitter. Emma, Armstrong, Taryn Amman is that Amman Adnan. Amman Edwin on right? You can find me on twitch plan kingdom hearts. Three Amman is way ahead of me. You can find Tarrant on twitch playing kingdom hearts. You'll probably also find me in the Chad working high three because I have been playing too much the Macaire to admit I'm gonna break watch them other people play a little bit. Can we get a king of hearts three update from you? What sort of? Let's just say this. I am. At the point where the conclusion of this dog is imminent. I will go I've been through pretty much all of that. There is go through. Haven't been most of the collectible. So I think we're gonna go back into all of those. Well, it's to prolong this, but I've been like an emotional right playing this game. And I'm like, I can't get the because I need more time of digest. So we will of course, be live tonight to recap the eviction and veto and h wage competition. So make sure you tune in for that. And I will be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds as well. As tonight with the new HR wage that will be crowned and everything going around that. So thank you for joining us. We'll see next time.

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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 28

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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 28

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And that's what we're here for right now to update you and everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, and it was kind of a slower day here, Bobby. Yeah. Definitely a slower day. There was a couple of things that happen that kind of changed the game of little bit for some people. But for the most part pretty slow today. Yes. So really we're going to we're going to have Lolo in Natalie want to. Today at work on making sure that Tom and Ricky are getting along. So low low is Natalie is going to have a conversation with Kato to tell Cato. Hey, you know, Ricky likes you guys. He, you know, he regrets not naming the alliance with you guys before that Ricky's, really, he's he's a standup guy, you know. And and he's not really as much of a threat as you think he's actually, you know, people people don't like him very much. He's somebody that you might want to take to the end that was Lola that said that but still the they're just they're campaigning for Ricky to Kato. They want Ricky to get along with these guys they were really trying hard to get Ricky on on the Tom and Gaydos side, especially when they came to Tom with Ricky and said us, Ricky just used on just tell them that. You know, I want you to make the alliance name. I want you to do it. Your smart guy. You come up with such creative ideas, this'll be our things. So I can be part of the five wish I was in from the start. And this was what? Thought really made Lolo a kind of next year player by her convincing Ricky to do that. Because that opened that trust gate with Tom. Yeah. So. La does Lolo and Natalie talk to Ricky and Lillo his telling Ricky, look, you really need to work on your relationship with Tom. You should go to him and say that you want to name the alliance and. I'm watching this like, this is the most asinine plan. I've ever heard Tom was literally just talking to these two women the night before about how he doesn't trust Ricky because he knows there in an alliance, but doesn't want to be in it, and then whoa. Look at that. After the women are defending him. The next day. Ricky goes up to Tom and says, you know, what I really want to name the alliance and be a part of it guys. What do you think? I was I was like, wow. This is the dumbest plan ever. If Tom was already convinced that Ricky is is working with the women, and the women are not working with the two of them as closely as they are with Ricky this will certainly convince him, but we'll find out later how how it plays out. That she even sent him into that Lou my mind, and I was like there's no way there's no way I think is a savvy smart guy that has really captivated all of the big further ease watchers. There's just no way that this guy. Also, this and know for the my surprise him in Cato both do. Yes. Kato talks to Tom. And he's like, oh, you know, Natalie told me that Ricky's really regretting not naming the alliance with us. And Tom is like, I don't know. I still think Ricky's a big threat here. And then we're also going to get a conversation with Dina Joey and Ryan talking about Ricky where Dina's telling the guys, you know, I don't think Ricky's with those women. I think Ricky is with candy, and they're just kind of buy themselves of a little bit. I feel like I feel like Ricky is attainable. We we should try to get Ricky on our side. And it's just like what is it about Ricky, the makes everyone wanna work with this guy. Why I don't understand? He's then nothing, but his people off in the house and yet he's able to move his way into every single alliance. That is warned I just don't get how everyone can at one point eight this guy at the other point one to take him in. I get maybe from us repeating point. They think all of them can be him. But at the same time if he's got his his hand in every single pot. He's going to be able to stir things up like he likes to do. So I don't know if I would trust men my but for him to his like, I said his hand in all the pods. I think he's got a shot to really move further in this game. And that's the thing to when Lola was explaining to Cato. Hey, just Ricky's not as threatening as you think he's got weaknesses. He's he's really annoyed people. You know, he's he's a perfect person to take to the end. I was just like, wait a minute. Hold on. Let's think about it though. Who has he actually annoyed one tame? All right. Taymor is annoyed by everybody. You know, and he really didn't do much to annoy her in that, particular instance, he just she just thought something was true that wasn't. And he refused to lie and say that it was and then Tom, which was totally unnecessary. He went out of his way to annoy Tom. I don't understand it still. It's the one sort of anomaly in Ricky's game. However, we're going to see very shortly that Ricky does go through with his with this plan to talk to Tom doesn't happen on the feeds, but we see his conversation with Kato after. And he basically says, you know, Ricky came to me he said he wants to name the alliance. Now, he said, I'm a creative guy in the nation. Name it. I I he's such a sweet and nice guy. I like I like this Ricky five personal lines now for team fun. I am all aboard team Ricky fund. Let's do it. There you go. I mean, he's annoyed Tom. But Tom is now convinced he's he's on board. And not only that. But I feel like Tom is one of the most likely people to get over any sort of petty stuff that happened in the house if he feels like somebody has outplayed him, which Ricky certainly has done up until this point sorry. So I really don't think that Ricky will have trouble here getting votes, especially given his ridiculous ability to just get people to not only worked for him. These women are just like doing everything in their power to make sure that Ricky is. Okay. Then you got denied doing everything in her power to try and get the the guys to be okay with him. He's still got this thing with candy. And now he's just like using some kind of we've tried that. We're trying to come up with a term on Twitter here a weed related term for a missed. I came up with hot boxing. He's like he's hot boxing people like Tom into liking him for some reason. Yeah. No. I I couldn't think of anything the best. I could think of was he's stoning the rest of the of the group. I I honestly it blows my mind if someone were to come up to me and called me a break because I wouldn't do what they want me to do. I would never work with them. It makes no sense. Like, I just don't get how it's is wanting to go for this, it sucks. I love Tom. I think he's been great on the show. But I really hate see Ricky pool his stoned or his miss over over, Tom and keta. Yeah. It's it's strange stuff. And it it'll be interesting to see what happens here. I it definitely feels like Kato and Tom are getting played quite a bit by both the women and Ricky I my instinct say that Ricky is has the upper hand in this whole thing because he does have candy on the side. He has people like Dina who like him. I think he has whoever stays of the guys I think are probably willing to work with him in the future. He has the women working very hard for him. And now he has Tom and Cato. He basically has everyone in the house, whereas the women have a little bit a little more enemies taymor in particular, as we'll talk about today is pretty anti women at the moment. The guys if they stay are really targeting those women, so my instincts say that that Ricky has the upper hand here, but these women are very capable as well. So don't count them out either. Either way, I think that trio Ricky plus no low as people have been calling them are definitely in charge of the game at the moment. Oh, yeah. And I thought this was a huge move low low especially to be able to convince Rickey to do and tell him what he needs to do. I think that's what really moved her and Natalie up to that top spot in in my rankings as far as they're controlling the movement of the house, and they have little branches of of trust with every single person in the house, the the keys just keeping people like mar on their side for as long as possible to get through boats. Yeah, in honestly, I'm thinking a little bit. Like, I don't know how much she should have done this because I think the tension between Tom and Ricky was actually kind of good for her because it kept her and Natalie at the center of the alliance with Tom and. Kato both being totally cool with Ricky now, Ricky has a little more room to maneuver, which I think might not be the best thing. But we'll see how it plays out as we go along here something that I wanted to talk about with Tom is that before he has this conversation with Ricky he talks to the cameras, and he tells us exactly how he feels about Ricky and how he thinks that you know, and this is the thing to where. It's important to note that just because Tom talked to Cato about now trusting Ricky does not necessarily mean it's one hundred percent true. Because when he did talk to the cameras he said, I feel like we're making the wrong decision in regards to Ricky this before his talked with Ricky, and he's like, but I feel like I can't really push anymore. I think that I've said my piece I'm afraid that if I keep pushing they're they're not going to trust me anymore. So it is possible that he just took the opportunity of Ricky having conversation with him to change his his his tactic here and just lay off of it. And he might not actually trust Ricky now, but he did seem like he went a little bit over the top in his praise for Ricky. If that were really the case, I see exactly where you're coming from. I mean, I would hope that'd be the case. I'd hope he'd be kind of even missing us in a way that he's not really with Ricky. But he's just telling them all what they wanna hear. But for him to go to Kato and happy secret conversations with Kato the trust that. He feels with Ricky in with the other two women. I I just don't see I think that he has fully gone on board with this team fun. And I think that he's on board with just having a five person lions now. And I don't think it's a terrible move right now. But at the same time, I just don't think he could trust any of them to be honest with you. And I think that once they get down to five they'll be the to augment out. Yeah. If they even get down to five I I have a feeling that that that Ceric here is going to make sure that they don't get to the five in that candy is involved somewhere at the very least. But, but it's important to know that it is possible that Tom was not quite as bamboozled or hot box, or stoned or Hayes or smoked. As it may appear. But it also might be the case that he is also want to talk about how much better Tom is at being a person that plays the game. Then like anybody who's played since like big brother seventeen because he actually talks to us on feeds like seriously, nobody has explained their thought process and how they're feeling on the feeds more since Steve Moses on big brother seventeen and I love it. And I and I'm very grateful for it. It's insane. Seeing this guy actually talked to us, and he has pretty much. No, previous knowledge. He he talks a little bit of the little things that seem like the fight would Josh. And I mean, gosh, I'm blanking on his name. But he called Josh Paul, basically, the the pool incident where you for the juice face that that was talked about on the live feed yesterday. And so he doesn't have a full knowledge of the game. But. For him to go off to the east talk to us. Tell us you know, what he's thinking what he's planning and just talk about the day or what we're missing behind the scenes that's something we've been wanting for any player for so long. We thought we might get it last season. Because there there's a couple of super fans in the show. We got hearing their little bits and pieces, but not to the extent Thomas giving is not since like you said, Steve Moses. So it's so good to see. Yes. And of course, we should shut up Paris on big brother Canada. But but that was that was Canada that was not US doesn't count for what we're saying. But separate. Yes. So all right. So now we have team fund is a five personal lines. They're coming up with fist-bump there. They're all on board. The team fund train Kato is also now feeling like, you know, what I'm willing to put up Joey if I need to if Ryan wins the veto. And he uses the veto. I will put up Joey. I don't want to mess anything up. So that's what I'll do followed pretty quickly by Ryan enjoy having a conversation saying if we win the veto. We should not use it. Right. No. We're not gonna use. Yeah. No. They were very much. So we're not gonna take off there. There's no way because then we'll be the ones going up in one of us going home. Yes. So they're they're on board with that Natalie in Lolo are just they're just done with mar- this relationship. They it's basically like like, they have an ally in mar, but but it takes so much energy to work with them. It's kind of like Tyler with Caitlyn or Sam where it's just like it just took would've taken too much time and effort to appease her and everything that they're just kind of done with it. And they're just like, you know, what screw Samar. I it's becoming clear to us that if she stays this week, she's gonna be coming after us, and whatever it's fine. We're just going to deal with it as much as she gives us. Great TV on the live episodes in the diary room. She's just so much drama inside the house that it's hard to really move around and navigate through her emotions. She can be happy one day in the next day completely bawling her eyes out. So it's it's been the hardest thing to be able to use her as a moving tool in the game. And I think that the girls are just tired of doing it. I think they realize they can't move further in this game with her being close allies of making us her on the outside to kind of work their way in help them navigate through different alliances or different boats. But they can't work with her to the full extent. Yes. Which is not great for them. Because taymor has a lot of information on them a lot of dirt on them that she is going to be using against them. And it does seem as though she wants to go after them. She talks to Ryan about like, hey, Ryan. If you go up on the block, I won't vote you out, and you know, what I want to even go after those that block of the women alliance Ricky. Tom cato. I want to go after them next week if I'm still here. So taymor seems to a fully turned at this point. But again, this is taymor. She is a wild card that does not mean that she will actually go after them next week. This means that she was saying that she would. Yeah. Yeah. No. I don't I don't know where she's gonna lie when it comes all the chips are all laid on the table. I don't know what she's gonna do going forward into next week. But if she gets any sort of power in stays into the house, I will be all over those feeds because it'll be just amazing drama to see with especially with low in Napoli. Yes. So. Re Ryan Kato and Joey have a conversation where they ask Kato. Like, hey, what's up? Are. We in trouble here. Should we be packing is this what's happening in Cato, basically comes out and says like? I mean, pretty, you know, maybe maybe something might happen. And so maybe you should be maybe a little bit. Maybe prepared. It's a coin toss. You know, it's going to possibly be one of you guys on a pack. Our stuff ready to go and Kice anything to happen. You'll we think you're respectful guy in a respectable guy. We just want to have our bags packed ready. Go all it's going to be probably pretty fifty fifty. You gave them such a non-answer with such a definitive answer that they have to have in their heads that they're definitely going to be people going up if they're not selected or win the Vida. And this is probably a good time to queue up the point that Kato despite being a founding member of team fund is team. Definitely antiphon. I hate fun. I never won on the feeds. I hate fun. Stop the fun. He is I've tweeted this out. He's the complete opposite of Tamar. He is. Stabilizing force in this house. He has single handedly in the last two weeks the first two weeks kept the house from flipping from going anywhere. He is just so stubborn and adamant about his choices that he's. Nope. This is what I'm doing. And I'm sticking to it not only that. But I'm going to tell the people that it's happening and they're going to have to just like everything's going to be fine. We're gonna keep all of the drama away. And it's going to be great. And I've made my choice. I'm not gonna deviate from it. A maybe it's a mistake, but I've made the choice. So that's just how this the way. It goes. It's ridiculous issue. Like give us this. Let us have drove let us have this moment where they think they might go. But maybe they have this little. Oh, no, you're pretty much just telling them no matter what you're going on the block. If you don't win the Vida. And I mean, chili just needs to know if he's got a bag his bags pack because it takes an eight hours on the bathroom, if that, you know. Bolt hair already to go. So he's got a bag all that stuff up. Let us know. But they he ends up giving him that fifty fifty answer in that was all they needed. Yes. I'm seeing the he's he's like James. No. He's even worse than James. He is he's worse than James because you know, like James would would ruin blindsides shore. But at least James would still cause drama, and at least James would still go back on his word. And like he was something in the game. Like he didn't. He didn't stabilize things he was just a piece that would sometimes deescalate drama Kato, DS Glades drama and prevents drama and prevents strategic. Maneuvering Kato's just the worst of all worlds, and he still has the bad humor in mind. No, it's it's so bad in watching him on the live shows is just no one's laughing. No one's even doing anything to to help stop him from the ad humor. But he he's good in a play that shows that he was working with people and working in the house and making alliances making moves, but has a as the show goes he just has nothing to offer. Yes. And now as being mentioned he is even infecting the episodes with some questionable filler segments. And and to top it all off he has in fact decided at least he is thinking about this if the nominations do stay the same if Ryan or Joey do win the veto. He's thinking. Should just vote tomorrow off instead of Dina, right? We should get rid of taymor instead of DNA taymor instead of DNA. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, maybe it does. I don't even care. What do you stop Kato ruining everything? I mean. Yeah, let's totally get rid of someone that's gonna work with us in gonna help us in boats going forward to someone. That's clearly on Ryan Joey side, if they stay have threesome. So it's it's one of those things where there's no way you could let EMC over taymor it blows my mind that he's even thinking about it. I mean, I think that he if they were handling properly she might be now, they're not though. So I guess it's kind of up in the air. And I do think it's maybe possible that Dino works with them in the future. I think she's willing to do whatever she needs to survive. But still it's just like he just happens. He just happens to be in charge of the decision that makes every single thing worse on feeds. And sometimes it's the right decision for them. And then sometimes it's not the right decision for him. Like nominating DNA in the first place. So Liz, this some just I'm just frustrated with cable, we can't tell it'll. All right. So Joey does make a pitch to Cato. He says people, you know, people are. I have been considering using the Batman voice as Joey's voice when I do enjoy impression just all the time. So I'm still thinking about it. We're not going to go there yet. But it's if he continues to mention Batman, it might happen. Just just warning everyone. We signal up in the sky you have to have that ready to go. Yes. So for now, Joey is telling him people people are turning on each other. And it's just like I'm not about that. And you know, I feel like we can work with you. And you know, we've got these other people that just don't have good energy. And I just feel like if we keep the people with good energy. Then it'll be it'll be cool. It'll be fun. And you know, what I mean like, what are you? What are you thinking Kato and Cato is actually according to Cato impressed by this pitch? He's like, you know, Joey's a stand up guy like this guy, these guys they're nice. They're lovely. I would love to keep them. But I've I've made my decision. It's unfortunate. But I have made my decision. I stand firm. Yeah. He's fully on board. With one of these guys is going home. No matter what I don't think. At this point. Anything's changing his mind. But to see Joey come in and give his plea. You know, it really resonated to Kato that this is his final his final try. This is his last bit of hope, and he's like, you know, he's a stand up guy. I'm gonna give him this moment. And I just I can't do it. I have to live with the choices. I've made there's no hope for letting them in in the smallest bit and giving them an opportunity. So I think Kato's pretty much done with his decision. I think he knows exactly what he's gonna do. And or so close to it actually happening. I don't think there's anything that's going to sway him kiss. I've gotta pack. The Joey signal. No, more Joey. All right. So. Joe Ryan Joey are going to they're going to study a bit here. And normally I don't pay too much attention to the studying because there in fact, a lot of the people in the house are studying quite a lot. There's a lot of studying happening. They're making sure they know their days. It's a lot easier to study when you know only twenty something day season. Which you know? Maybe I spoke to soon because Ryan enjoy you're having a lot of trouble in there studying in particular, they're caught up on one point as they attempt to study here. Wait a minute Joey. How did how did you get on the block? How did how did you go to get on the block? I don't remember Joe is like. I can't should we ask Deena should we? Well, how did I go in the book? I don't how did I end up on the block. How did this happen? Bobby? No, it's it's watching to cavemen like this trying to figure out the plan trying to figure out the days in what you know. What even our it is on the house? It's it's I I mean, I like them. I think they're great guests on the show. But it's it's funny watching these guys that are all brawn in little bit of brains because they got themselves in this position where they have to know they'd have to know what's going to happen. What happened in the game? There's only been one week. How are we can have in their sense? But how do you not know? I mean Ryan you were age elite. You're crying out loud. How do you know not know what happened in your week in? How do you not know what's happened since you've been on the are since you've been a target? It's just been a week and a half. There's no way you can't know what's going on. And so to see this happen to watch this. It shows, you know, obviously, they know nothing about the show from previous terms, which we didn't expect them to. But at least. Hilla week in a half worth of material. Like, it's not that hard. I can tell you what I ate for breakfast that week ago. You can't remember who you put on the block in how they got there or how you know. Other people have been put on the button come on art to be fair. Jonathan was making all the decisions for them at the time. So I think that the you know, it was just they were on autopilot. And they just weren't thinking. It makes me sad that Ryan or a feels like Ryan or taymor. My like those are the two options for leaving on Monday. Or on today? The that's very sad to me. Taymor is not out of it completely. This idea of victim taymor over over Dina has not been discussed too much. However, given how done with her Natalie and low low are if if KEDO can bring Dina in on a conversation with them and get Dina to pledge your loyalty to them. It would not surprise me if they were willing to vote vote tomorrow. Which would mean, we either lose taymor or Ryan, which is like those are two of the best people in the house right now in terms of entertainment, which is it's upsetting. It's upsetting veto should be live tonight on the episode don't that's just sitting at home right now throwing stuff at his TV when he's gonna watch this competition in his there's just no way I feel like these guys will win this petition even with their backs against the wall. They need this competition. I just don't without the brains. They're like, you said just don't see it happening. If this was physical competition by all means, they have you know, like Cato said of fifty fifty shot. At it. It's not an it. Just it sucks. Ac- someone that needs that has her life in the game on the line that needs to come through competition. And I don't think they will. And that's the thing where you they keep talking about how big of like other such big threats these two guys they're gonna win all the competitions. They're such big threats. And I feel like again, this is just like lack of big brother knowledge, where like yes, you know, Ryan one one competition which was a swinging competition, and he won it with Jonathan. And it was kind of a weird one. And like, yeah, he won. But also barely anybody else wanted to win and he just managed to figure out how to swing a swing. Then he beat Jonathan one person. And he didn't do so very convincingly either. He's lost every other competition. Then we've got Joey who hasn't won any competitions yet the best competition. He. Was able to do he was beat by Kato? Who it was a physical endurance competition? He was beat by Kato. These guys are not threats. They are never gonna win any mental competitions. According to how they study they are not threats. They are. So they are just like they are cute little puppy dogs. Who are just so willing to take any master that just picks. This gives them some pets in says. Oh, good boys could boys and then can feed them some some nice food. And then grow them up into big attack dogs that will be super loyal and will attack people and be big threats in front of you. But nobody wants to use them. They're just they're just they're just remaining puppies. And they're just they're just. Shooing the puppies away. Go I don't I don't want you. I hate you puppy. That's what's happening. And I don't understand. It it blows my mind. These guys are right there for the taking you can use them in so many ways if you need them to win a physical competition, they'll win or you who in the house, we sides, maybe Lolo is going to beat these guys when it comes to a physical competition like a gist. Don't see why people don't use them to their advantage like very are ripening or the peaking like issues hick them up use them as you need them. And when you're done with them discard them because like, you said, most of these big brother competitions, aren't the endurance or physical hype of even the endurance? Ones aren't built for. You know, Ryan size is ATI size is not the right for the endurance competition. The only thing that'll be good for is strength competitions and use them as you need them. Their boats for your side. Do it. But it's not happening. I'm curious to see how how Joey exists in the house without Ryan. I'm assuming that we're going to be losing Ryan tonight, which which is a shame. They spent so much money on that. Pool. At the very least, the, you know, the pool company gave it to them for the sponsorship. And I feel like they have not gotten their money's worth, you know. But you know, they can always lounge around and hang out at the full whenever rhymes gone. I ain't Ryan might just want to take that within the constellation for being there for two weeks. So I know. Yes. We also got some Tom green at nights. However, it's very sad news. The serial Osprey is is done. It's over the died. Yeah. Tom is you know, he he's getting no feedback. He he doesn't know how we feel about serial Osprey. And so he's like he got maybe you'll hate it. So I guess I should just stop doing it for now. Because I don't know if you guys are liking it or not. And it's it's just like, no, we need to we need to like whisper serious brain, we believe in you. We love you. We need to we need to send him the psychic message. Because it's it's very sad. You know, whoever is working the camera is clearly not giving him enough information that we love it. Because everyone behind the scenes is in love with the Osprey every single night in how secretive and quiet is multi tries to do. It is us. It's the funniest thing. And is late night interviews with the camera letting us know what's going on. Like, you can't get rid of the Osprey at this point has become heart of the big brother celebrity to tradition. So. You know, hopefully, he has a change of heart. Hopefully, he sees the bigger picture that we all need cereal Osprey, and I just want to again quickly say that on last night's episode. We got an entire segment about Cato's bowel movements, and we still have not seen serial Osprey on the show. What was with that? The what are they thinking? No sense. It was disgusting. And it wasn't even a big part of the day. Like it. What is going on with that? As something you show on the teeth of the Osprey. We've had a every night. It's hilarious people love it. It makes no sense in. What are the big brother producers doing to us? They're they're doing whatever Ricky did to Kato is what they're doing. So thing they're all stoned. I guess so. Yeah. So tonight, we will have a live veto and eviction my guess, obviously, the most likely thing that's going to happen here is that Ryan is going to leave the house, which it just feels like he had more to give us. I it's it's rare that I feel like we've lost someone too soon. But I feel like I do feel like Ryan was supposed to be here longer. If Ryan doesn't leave it will very likely come down to DNA Ortega. Mar I not sure at this point, which one would go I think it's pretty up in the air, depending on who has what kinds of conversations today. So if Ryan has a surprise win, and you don't usually like keep up with what's happening during the day. Then you could be in for influence the prize. I don't know which way it's going to go. So that might be fun. I guess I honestly think that it'd be came down to Emaar and Dina I think the house because it'll happen all same time. And they really won't have a lot of time. To think about it. Unless something big happens today in my heart. I think pay Mars going home because they'll want to keep the the co everyone happy everyone on the same page. No more fighting, and I think that she's a big reason for the drama. So I think that maybe in their heads. They won't have enough time to think about it. She might be gone. But like you said if Ryan goes home he'll like it's just way too early like in my head. I'm like, there's just no way he's going like he's going to win this or something's going to happen. There's a twist like I just feel like they need him in the house or the the show to really work. Well, as it's been doing, and I'm not saying it wouldn't without him in the house. But I feel like there's something there with him in the house. So I don't know what's gonna happen. We'll have to wait to see the night. But in my heart, I think payments going home, but in my head, I think that'll be Reimann that's bad for the show. Yeah. It's unfortunate. But we will be live after the episode. I believe with with Caitlin hold on. Let me to see us. Caitlyn will be on with us tonight after the eviction. So that should be fun. And then hopefully, I will also be live on twitch tonight after the podcast to go over what's happening with the new potential new H O H and in in what's what they're thinking with nominations. And and all of that great stuff anything about Caitlin is. I was actually in the audience at her victim. On the most wild things I've ever seen. Everyone was making. No, one knew what was happening producers releasing their mind because she was finishing the puzzle. It was crazy to see live as crazy as it was on TV to be there in person, it was even more wild. There you go. That's a a moment to be there. That's a going down in big brother history. Yeah. 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Yes, you know. I think most of our questions will be answered tomorrow night. Time. Yeah. In the meantime, we're just going to be doing our best. So let's start talking about the day in celebrity big brother to because some stuff has been going on. We're we're finding out a little bit more of what happened. Why we're why we're at where we're at and what's going on with this eviction. And all of that. So to start the day e got Tae mar she's still mad about candy. Oh, yeah. I mean, we have the same conversation multiple times. And I don't think she's ever going to stop being mad about it. Yeah. Basically until candy or tame are one of them leave the house. This is going to be a thing. Yeah. And many people have intervened and asked do you want me to help do you want to try to fix it? When you want to do. And I I think it's just a big misunderstanding. But neither of them seem to really want to fix the problem. Yeah. I my guess is that the Tamar has a lot of misunderstandings with people and. Just somebody that is very no nonsense. And so happens to clash with her quite a bit. Yeah. And I mean, at least from what we got on the show last night. I'm I can understand if you're if you're upset about something. And you're kind of looking for continual reasons to be upset you're not going to appreciate the way candy reacted to the problem. But I I don't know. I don't know if there's anything that candy can do that would be right in this instance. Yes. And. Basically toward the end of the day. Tomorrow is going to get into the Ricky little bit. And that indicated to me like, basically if you can get into a fight with Ricky. You're get into a fight with anyone. That's really that's sort of what I'm thinking. So. Yeah. Kmart still upset about the candy thing. Basically, most of the advice being given terror is just don't be in the same room as her just ignore her avoid her. They just don't want to mar to mess up their lovely. Let's get out Jonathan plan in try to get candy out. Instead. So they're just trying to be like, let's postpone this for another few days. Please. Yeah. Yeah. I I think that. I mean, obviously Tamara wants candy out. And I don't know if I don't I don't see that happening. At least by what we've gotten so far and something really crazy. We'd have to happen tomorrow for candy to be the one leaving. So since she's going to be staying probably. I don't know if we're going to get more of this. I mean, if if tomorrow is up on the block or if she's she's definitely going to put candy out. But I don't see that. I I just don't see people voting her out just for taymor. Yes. They don't want to granted. They have. No like they've no strategic connection to candy. In fact, candy is pretty much actively against the women, but they want Jonathan out first. So they're like, no, no, no TAY, mar we need Jonathan then we can then we can deal with candy. So that's that's interesting to note there Jonathan and Ryan have a conversation. They veto ceremony is today when and we know that Kato is probably going to be using the veto on on, Tom. So Jonathan and Ryan have to figure out who the replacement nominee is going to be and Jonathan is trying to tell Ryan, hey, these women they've. Gotten really upset with us before when we didn't talk to them about making decisions. So we should go and talk to them about the decision and ask them what they think. And Ryan is I oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense. And Jonathan's thought is we should probably end up nominating. Joey because that will make the women happy, and we need to make them happy. So let's go do that the problem with all of this is they kind of they missed the boat on including the girls. So at this point. I don't think the women are really every time there talked to they're kind of like, oh, yeah. We'll we're fine with whatever because they already know that there weren't included initially. And so it's not it doesn't really count this time around. Well, well, I think the main port part here is that the women have Ricky in their ears saying, no, they're lying to you. Ryan has been talking about nominating you Lolo, they're lying. And so I feel like that's really the thing in there. You're that's like, oh, this is this is BS. I can't believe them doing this. They're trying to pretend that they're. Feeling aligns with us, even though they want us to be on the block, so. Yeah. Jonathan and Ryan do go, and they talked to low low Natalie and Tamar, and it's super awkward just like we saw in the episode last night where they're just kind of like, hey, guys. So I. I. I don't know if these people if Ryan especially in Jonathan lake every time, we see them on the episode. It's edited to make it look like they have no sense of like social wariness of how they're coming across especially to the women. And so I don't know if they get that vibe. But like you got to imagine being in the house OB hard not to pick up on that on how they're not being how awkward it is. I mean, Ryan is definitely picking up on it. Ryan is like dude, they're giving us nothing. This is terrible. And Jonathan's response is basically like I understand what you're saying. But if we have lost them than I'm already done. I'm toast. I'm dead in the water. So we gotta keep trying. I just thinking of this for the first time. But like if they realize they've lost the girls, they're the ones on the block they need help. Shouldn't they go to Tom in Kato and try to get them on their side and vote candy out or do something? I mean at this point they haven't even nominated anyone else for the replacement. So like, I just feel like there were there were other options. Instead, they just decided like, oh, it's either girls or we're going home. Yes. They are not this is not this is not a top level game play here from from Jonathan and Ryan. Unsurprising from Ryan. And I guess not too surprising from Jonathan given. What we've seen so far? So yes, they do they go to Natalie low low and Tamar it's super awkward. They're like, hey, what what what should we do? What should we do the nomination and the women are like, you know, what do you think? And they're like, oh, we would just wanted to include you guys and see what you think and they're like. And they're like what about deana or Joey. Maybe it doesn't matter whatever. And I okay, cool, then they leave. And then after believe the women are like those guys like they care what we think every time they left the room the girls just looked at each other and era pair, we gotta get rid of them. To be fair like to Ricky. I think he's playing an underrated game. But he he is John oven. Or Ryan did wanna put low low up initially. So I mean, he is telling the truth. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the world. I mean, it's real you run in with that one. Little fact, I'm shocked with how little people are talking about Ricky and his very key involvement in all of this switches that like he is basically keeping this ship going in the direction that it's going and we'll talk about that later as well. But this is not the women's natural inclination. They keep going back to maybe we shouldn't vote out Jonathan wait a minute though. But Ricky, and that's the thing that's keeping them on this on this train of thought. So Ricky really surprised me over the course of the last twenty four hours in I had no idea he was playing that much and we even saw some of it yesterday. So we'll talk about that. When it comes up as you mentioned yesterday on the morning update, Ricky chose really well in in the room that he is staying I think he wasn't going to broke down with the guys. And so he figured all right. All have the ear of the women and this'll be my move. And I mean, I don't I think the girls. Also have a tendency to talk more in that room. And so he's just picking up a lot more information just by being there because he's he's very different from a lot of the huskies in that. He's he's very zen yoga and all of this stuff. And so he's a he's a little bit older than the super younger crowd, which is in their thirties. And so he's not necessarily going to like naturally fit in with the rest of them in the same way that that somebody like Jonathan could have. But I think he understands that role and in haven, he's talked about in the past how he has social anxiety and all of these things, but I think the way that he has positioned himself is perfect for his personality where he is. He is seen as just is is Ricky he's all he's all by himself. Yeah, he wanted to veto competition. But whatever nobody is is recognizing what he's doing. And everybody. Everybody in that house is coming to Ricky thinking that they can get him on their side. So interesting, and when you look at the two people house who are playing the most low key with him and Dina the differences that Ricky is he's not being noticed for it. But he is actually doing things where he could make it argument at the end of the game. I think he'd be much more likely of the to win. Oh, yeah. And he's super likable. I mean, he's he's the biggest threat in the game. As far as I'm concerned right now. But we do have Tom and Kato who I think are two of the other will maybe not to the other. But one of the other big threats in the game, especially because they are benefiting quite a lot from what Ricky is doing. So Thomas talking about how hey, let's let's down play downplay the lines as much as possible in this veto ceremony. When we when you use the veto on me. It's not let's not be like, oh, yeah. We're in the lions I love the way like the simplistic way that they talk about the game. So like like like Thomas talking about talks talks about the game. Like, they just started like this is two thousand two thousand one and we're playing big brother too. And he's like, okay. So what we probably want to do is. When you use the veto. We'll we'll act like, you know, we're close, but you don't want to. Here's the thing about it. You don't wanna make it seem like we're super close like super tight like unbreakable or anything like that. So let's maybe downplay that a little bit, and oh, and here's here's another thing. Once devotes come in. We'll be able to cross check and see who who said what if everything works out. And was like, oh, but they don't tell you who voted which way is a nano, but they tell you the number, and so you can do the math, and if everything adds up exactly, then, you know, everybody voted the way that it said they did. But if they if it doesn't add up. Exactly then. Oh, we know. We know some people are lying caters. Oh, yeah. Makes sense in Tom is one of the only people in the house who instead of feeling sure about people based on what they tell him like a lot of these people are making alliances. And then they get upset when things that work. He's like I'm gonna be ninety percent. Sure about everyone intil we vote until we see what happens, and then we can move forward and make you know, make more plans. It's very it's very much like survivor where until you go to tribal council. You don't know where the lines really are. And I love Tom breaking down the game for Kato. Because at least he's doing that without him. Hit would have no clue. What's going? Yes. And this is also when when they're talking about the voting numbers Kato says, well, I'm not voting though. So that'll make it even easier which led some of us to believe. Oh, okay. Maybe maybe Kato and Natalie won't be voting because they were both. Hyun though, they both played in the veto as we saw O one of Edo. So why would they play in the veto? But then not be able to vote. I am prone to believe that this is a misunderstanding on Kato's part because Natalie has been talking like she has a vote all day long. And everybody else is talking like everybody has a vote. So in my assumption is that Kato is wrong. But there is a small possibility that Kato is correct. And that he and Natalie won't be voting. If that's the case it actually changes everything because it would be a lot easier for Jonathan to stay. If there were only five votes, and he was able to keep his allies off the book. He would have Joey he would have Dina, and if Tamar stays with her I need to get candy out, that's three votes Jonathan stays. So it actually makes a gigantic difference. But I'm pretty sure it's not the case with three people on the block. I can't see them in the voting. It's so few people voting in this whole week such a mess. It wouldn't surprise me. I would think I think that at the very least Natalie is voting there's a really small chance that like something in the veto contest. You could win it. But then you wouldn't have a vote. Who knows I think more likely like you said, it's probably mixing up the rules about head of household. Not being able to vote and he won something like the same. Yes. But so I like, I I'm pretty sure this is not the case there will be seven votes in which case it does not matter whether or not Joe on the block because you're not gonna get those votes anyway. But just something something talk. So we also had Jonathan and Ryan discussing this whole situation. Jonathan is saying I think we should put up Joey to try and appease the women Ryan is saying, no, the we we've lost the women. It's clear to us that we've lost the women. We should put up low low or somebody because Joey is a vote for you. And we need all the votes we can get there block making actually like pretty decent points here. Again, if if it is the case, the Cato Natalie can't vote then Ryan is one hundred percent, correct. That they almost definitely would have the votes if they didn't put Ryan up if they put Lolo up instead, however, if Kato and Natalie are voting, which I'm pretty sure they are Jonathan is actually probably more correct here because they do need the women's votes. And he's right in saying that if we've lost the women we've probably lost anyway. But the thing is they have lost the woman most likely, and if they have lost the woman, they need a new plan, and that new plan probably needs to include Joey they're not thinking about it that way, they don't realize that either way they've probably lost the woman. Yes. I agree. I mean, obviously, the the the way they're going about it is not gonna work either way. However, I do think the Jonathan is correct. With with seven votes. His logic is correct with the mindset they currently have which is wrong. Should Jessica putting up Ramseys. All right. Let me basically, I mean, they need they need the women or they need Tom and Kato or they need somebody more than more than Ricky. And they're not getting those people like Jonathan's right in his mindset. He's wrong in his plan. Nominating Joey is not going to help. That's that's what I'm trying to get a draw. Which is like the mindset is correct. They need to get the women to their side. And I think they're capable of it. But nominating Joey is not the correct way to do that. He should just nominate DNA or or whatever because it doesn't. It doesn't matter because there's not a lot of true. And that's that's part of it too. Is that it is a tough spot to be an especially the first week of the game. But but they need to get the women on their side. And the way to do that is not to be like, oh, we'll nominate whoever you want the way to do that is to start talking to them and just like like don't stop just like going in there with transactional conversations. Like, hey, this is our designated conversation for the day. Like, the reason you approach these people because you said that they were gravitating towards each other. But you are not socializing with them. There's something broke down in the communication over the course of the last week, and we saw it in last night's episode where clearly they just stopped talking to each other. They just you know. Vo women felt like a little weird. And then that made the men feel a little weird. And then that little weirdness just spiraled and spiraled into this endless cycle of getting weirder. And weirder to the point where now they can't even speak to each other without being super awkward, and it would be so easy for them to just be like, hey. Natalie guys Lola like what's going on is something wrong. I it's been so weird. And we've been so scared to talk to you like just can we just have a conversation about what's been happening. I think if they did that they'd be fine. I honestly do based on what I've seen from the women so far they are on the edge enough that they would be willing to hear them out. If they had a conversation that way, especially low low and Ryan Lolo definitely wants to be friends with Ryan. That's all I genuinely feel that's all they need to do. But instead, they're like, no, no, we need to nominate our best friend, Joey. And and then have like two conversations a day where we tell the women that were doing what they want because we're nominating Joey. Yes, that's going to work. It's like what are you doing? Well, I think the other thing is Lolo probably feels like I do think she likes Ryan wants to work with Ryan had. I think that that's not that is not incentivizing her to keep Joey Jonathan if anything she wants to get Jonathan out. So that Ryan is more freed up. Yeah. I think it's like she clearly wanted to work with both of them at one point. But she feels like I think the only reason she feels threatened by Jonathan is because they don't talk to her anymore because she because Jonathan entered the situation, and that made things change it made things changed from. Oh, I'm in good with Ryan. And we talk a lot to now Ryan's not talking to me anymore. What's the what's the difference? Jonathan it makes it it makes it very easy to just be like, hey, Jonathan is the problem. It's just it's it's such. It's such a mess of of just like weird socialness. And of course, again, the the key factor here that the men are not seeing is Ricky in their ears telling them because they keep going to Ricky confiding in him. So the women are being weird. Maybe we should put up Lolo, and then Ricky's running that back to the women's saying men think men think they should put up low low guys, I don't know about this. So it's it's I again, I have to credit Ricky for taking advantage of the social mistakes between these two groups who really have. No, there's no incentive for them to come. After each other right now, the men have no reason to target the women. The women have no reason to target the men except that Ricky is is making them target each other essentially, so good on Ricky and bad on them. Because it's a very big brother is not the game to be like things are. Awkward, and I'd rather not talk about it. So I'd rather just let them go home. I wonder if any of it also could be the subconscious subconscious like Jonathan is a juicier target. We could just get him out now. And I know that I don't I don't necessarily see any of them thinking in terms of like keeping him around as a shield as much, but I I'd it'd be it'd be difficult if you're playing a game, and you know, that it's so short, and they're so few people you might as well try to get some people offers. I mean, that's that's certainly a possibility. But I think I think given the fact that they were perfectly willing to work with Jonathan at the start of the week to now they're not willing to I think, it's I think it's less. The fact that he's a big target and more just that like I don't like him anymore. Like, I feel like he's against me. I feel like Ricky told us that he wants to nominate us. So I'm not I'm not a big fan of that. I mean, I think that really if you're looking at this from the perspective of Lolo Natalie, and especially Tamar, candy, actually is the bigger threat to them if they can get on the same page with these guys who desperately want to work with them than than candy is the person who actually doesn't like the women and would come after them. Whereas these guys if they want h h would probably not they would still probably be after Tom and Kato. So it's interesting to think about and again, I think Ricky deserves a lot of credit here for for instigating this stuff between these two groups. So we have. Natalie speaking of Tom, Cato, Cato, Tom Lolo and Natalie are going to confirm their deal that we talked about last night. That happened to the previous night. You know? Hey, we're good with each other. We're going to keep each other safe. Everything's gonna be fine. And they're like, all right. Good. We like this. And then they talked about math, and it was bad. Yeah. I Tom you said Ricky is instigating a lot of this that he's definitely benefitting Tom Cato, also benefiting my all of the different groups going at each other. And I think it'll be interesting to see if it ever does come to head between Ricky on one side and Thomas essentially on the other who would win out in that scenario because I do think Ricky probably has more pull their, but Tom has a little bit more game savvy. Yeah. I mean, what's interesting to me is that this group had they worked together or even if they can still pull together and work together, they should be the ones controlling the game. They have the majority, and this is this is a situation this season where the quote, unquote, outsiders are seemingly going to be the ones that the gather up all the power largely because of what Ricky's doing and because Tom is savvy enough to recognize the opportunity, so we have base. These these two Lolo Natalie and Tamar versus Jonathan Joey. And Ryan they're battling it out low low and Natalie have given up the middle ground to Tom and Ricky and their ilk. So that's that's not great for them. But it's it is great for Tom and Ricky because now Tom is recognizing. Hey now, there's candy who doesn't like the women. She's easy to pull in. Maybe I should go talk to her. There's Ricky who's still kind of a alone wolf we can work with him as well. We've got myself where we've got this deal with the women and Jonathan's being taken out and the women are going to be betraying the men's of the men are going to go after the women. So everything's looking great for Tom. And he's playing it exactly how he needs to and just low key enough that it's working for him. So this this sort of outsider group that that wasn't the initial like, hey, let's all get together and hang out, and I didn't even mention. China who is obviously very close with Kato in there for close with Tom. So things are looking up for these for these guys and they recognize it. Yeah. And if John goes home, then Dina has no one else to flock to so she probably would stick with Cato in that scenario, and I'm not sure what Joey and Ryan would necessarily do. But if they're if they get screwed over by the girls, they're probably not as likely to go back to them exactly especially especially without Jonathan there. I can't see Joey wanting to work with them or them wanting to work with Joey the fact that Jonathan will be leaving. Instead of Joe even though Dom Tom did as we'll talk about consider taking Joey out instead. You know, things again things looking looking good for these guys. So Natalie Lolo and Tamar they are going to have Jonathan and Ryan separately. Come and talk to them again. Like, hey, guys. Like seriously, though, what do you want Ryan in particular like? Do like what are you? What are you think I should do guys? And they're just like, I don't know. Ryan, do whatever you want. And then he's like. And so he leaves and Lolo is like, oh, man. I really have a hard time with this because I really do like Ryan and feel bad about what we're doing. And then Natalie has to be like, no remember he wanted to put you up. He's playing us. You know, you know, what this is is they're coming in here. Trying to get you to volunteer yourself. That's what's happening. That's what's happening here. And so again, these breakdown in communication Bill with the suspicion that Ricky is injecting into them is is really not great for them. So that's that's happening there, and then Jonathan and Ryan are going to talk to Joey about. Okay, Joey, so. We're thinking that maybe you should be nominated and Joey makes the most comical agreement face, which is like just the most exaggerated frown. Yup. I got. Okay. I agree. I should go up. Yep. Definitely. I mean, he's he doesn't exactly fight it. So he he he he agrees pre. He's. So clearly, not okay with it. But he's just like, yeah. Yeah. Totally totally cool that it's my that's my bro- heartbreaks that you're betraying. But yeah, no, I'm good. I don't even care about this game. It's okay. He knows he's a pong. Is there safety to look his face? I can't even come close to doing it. I can't make my mouth turn that much. So he says that's fine. We're going to have the veto ceremony. Kato dozen facts use the veto on Tom and Joey does go up as the replacement nominee, Tom talks to candy afterward. He she's feeling a little bit upset, and you know, the whole situation. She's like these women I don't like what they're doing. They're just listening to Samar. And I just feel like I'm on the out candy is just like wonderful like she's just so easy to pick up right on. Nobody is talking to candy. Nobody cares about her. So we got Ricky and Tom the only two people that are really putting in work with her. I mean, Joey is a little bit as well. But he's focused on the, bro. So you got Tom. He's trying to comfort her he saying don't worry about it. I'm working to help you out this week. Doing exactly what he should be doing somebody who's on the block who's not going to be going home is not somebody that you'd just be left alone. Because they're the easiest people to pick up. And and that's that's what Tom is doing here. Yeah. Tom, Tom is one of the only people who recognize is the fact that like if they can spin it in a way to make it seem like they are saving candy when in most likelihood, she's not going home. So he's he's doing he's doing good work. Yes. And he also thinks that she's easier to be in competition. So no reason not to keep her around on your show case. Yes, she's she's perfect. She's perfect for any lions. The only the only thing that should prohibit her from being in your alliance is if you happen to have tomorrow on your lions, that's the only thing. And if you do have tomorrow on your lines, you'd better just get her out because she's never going to work with you. But everybody else super easy person to pick up here. So we then had Ricky and Lolo Ricky's going to again work. Some little snake magic here. Lolo Ryan he came up to me. And he said he wanted to nominate you, but don't worry. I shut that down. I I made sure that didn't happen and Lola's. What's ryan? Not happy. Which I mean to my to my knowledge Brian did discuss that. So it's. Yeah. Saw. Episode. And he did actually again have a conversation with Ricky where he was like man, I don't even know can only put up three people. What are you think? Maybe I should put up Lolo. These these guys are just trusting Ricky for no reason, and he's completely screwing them over. Yeah. I think it's pretty obvious that he's not with it. I don't I don't know what Ricky is doing to make them think that he's also with the guys. Yes. This. Don't they don't get it. They don't get how to play which I look, it's understandable. Because this is the first week of the game and very few of them are familiar with anything about the game. Denki sling had a rough week one. The doctor will had a really rough week one. You know, everybody has rough week ones. But this is this is a bad one. This is definitely a bad one. Well, I mean, there's one thing to overplay, and there's another thing to not know the game. But somehow doing both they're playing too hard. But also just missing a lot of stuff happening. Well, here's the thing. I feel like I feel like Jonathan in particular has fallen victim to the fear mongering of the Shannon. Overplay? I feel like he wanted to go in and play low key. But then he was put on the block immediately. So he was like I can't play LOKI I need to make sure I'm safe. So he put together this alliance and to make sure he was safe. And he was like okay now, I'm gonna play low key. And it's like, no that's not how it works. That's not how it works. So you need to stay on top of these people. And he's just not staying on top of these people. He's just kind of like he's trying to just hang out and not play hard because he doesn't want to be seen as the Shanti doesn't want to be seen as a person that's playing hard. But you need to play hard again. Ross is the one that was playing hardest last season. It's when you are bad at playing or when you. Play hard enough that like if you if you take the half measure and you start playing hard and then back off that's the worst of all worlds, you he needs to play harder. He needs to be more on top of people. He's talking to Tom and Kato. He needs to be talking to the women hanging out with more people than just Ryan, and Joey, but he's not he's just like Chillan just in his jacket like guys what's a. I mean, he mentioned a couple times throughout the day. He seems slightly worried. Like, he I don't think he's if not even like feel super comfortable, and that's why he doesn't need to do it. Yeah. A lot of people are like it was Dina. It was trying to save Dina. That was the downfall of Jonathan. Absolutely not. It was not talking to the women after saving Dina is saving. Dina was the correct move in the same way that not putting Joey on the block would have been the correct move. But the problem is that after you saved Dina you can't then just like we're good now don't need to talk to the women anymore. You go in. And you're like, hey, like, what did you think? They're like, well why why didn't Dina go on the block? Like, oh, I mean, I suggested to Ryan the maybe we shouldn't put up DNA. But it was so quick. We only had thirty minutes. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, it was it was a tough thing. I'm sorry that we didn't have time to consult you like if you have a conversation about it. It's fine. They would have been fine. But they had no conversation about it. That was the mistake that was the air because he was not playing hard enough. He was just like, okay. I did it now I just want to chill. I don't want to have to play too hard. I don't have to do too many things. That's where that's where it all went wrong. And you know, it's. You know, it's it's it's on it's unfortunate. Because you know, I feel like his legacy is going to be that he played too hard. When I again, I think it's the opposite. And I think that we're going to find more people in the future who washed the first two episodes of big brother celebrity and be like, I don't wanna play too hard like Jonathan. It's like, no, no you wanna play harder than Jonathan. That's that's the way to do. It. You got Ricky who's who's playing a just the right amount of hardness who is talking to everyone and planting seeds and doing these things. So that's that's what you gotta do and his his low key idea playing the game would have worked cutting up in forced into the spotlight. Yes. That's that's correct as well. And it should be like we're going to we're going to be very hard on Jonathan over the next few days, especially as the probable, I put here. But it is. It is definitely worth pointing out that again, he was probably never going to be nominated. No matter who won h h the fact. That he was put on the block and was forced into this position. Definitely really killed off his game before he could ever. Really learn how to play it. So you gotta give him some some leeway here. However, the decision he's made after being put on the block have not been. It's basically like the second. He got put on the block. He started making bad decisions right before then he was making great decisions. But then you got put on the block started making bad decisions. And what are you going to do, you know? That's again, you're put in such a tough position knowing very little about how to play this game. He was he was aware of the game. But he was not a superfan. He was not like a person. I feel like most of these people would not have been able to handle it. So what are you gonna do? Well, it's great for my power rankings. If he leaves. So low low and Natalie are they are concerned they do again, they have it in their head. Like we did like Jonathan. We do like Ryan is Ricky playing us. If thank you think maybe that Ricky is lying to us. And we're being set up here. Nah, nah. We believe Ricky close. Ricki Ricki has our best interests at heart. He's everything. He's been telling us has been has been on the up and up here. So that's that's basically they do have some doubts, but they do believe Ricky they are concerned about tame. Are they think that this is not as not great? They don't know how to deal with her and candy and this whole thing. So with that in mind, they feel like candy should be the next person they go after I think they might have some difficulty with that. And they're going to find that out next week. But they want candy out next Jonathan I the are worried about Samar, and they for the most part do believe Ricky that's the status update for low low and Natalie. And this is the I mean, I don't I don't know because I haven't seen her as much on the feeds, but. What's the main reasoning behind? Why Natalie and Lolo wouldn't rather work with candy, then taymor? I think that they just bonded with tame our first, and and that's basically now they've they've found that they've chosen aside. I mean, we still don't know his games which sides. Yeah, you've got to we still don't know why candy is on the block. So I maybe something happened that split candy from that group. She was never as much part of that group as as tame our was. Taymor had to be the one to bring candy in. So I think maybe they just didn't vibe with her. Maybe they just didn't get along with our very as well as Martine Mars seems pretty close with them. So I think that's basically it. Yeah. We had Ryan and Joey Ryan is telling Joey. Think we made a mistake. I feel like maybe shouldn't a nominated you maybe should nominated low low. I don't know about this like, yeah. Didn't you see my face before? I knew this. This was going to be a mistake. Because here's the thing. Ryan heard Kato telling Lolo after the veto ceremony. It worked perfectly. I don't know. I feel like that. Maybe isn't a great sign. Maybe I don't know. What do you think? If I was Joey I would just walk out of the room. You know, what I'm done with you plan the block, and you've gotta go talk to someone else. I don't wanna hear this. Yes. Tom Cato also have a conversation about well. Right. Dumb for putting Joey on the buck. What a strategic error. Says one point he does consider. Okay. So we know that DNA wants to Jonathan to stay maybe we should just take out Joey instead of Jonathan there one in the same. They're all allies. We can maybe appease DNA, if we do that it's an idea that they considered, but ultimately wasn't really explored too much. And then they also talk about how Ricky seems to be for the most part by himself. He somebody that they can potentially work with trying to protect a little bit. And then candy as well as someone that that they can potentially pull in. So really liking what Tom is doing here in the way that he's thinking about things, he's definitely he's the most. So Ricky is the most effective person in this house so far that I've seen in that he is doing things that are causing things to happen and positioning himself. Well, Tom is the person? That's seems the most cerebral in that he can see what's happening the most and. Understands what he needs to do to to make it work for him. So I really looking at the two of them here as as some big threats here at the at the start of the game. Yeah. I mean as long as people don't figure Tom out. But I think they I mean, he's already up on the block for a reason. I think they are seeing him as a smart player. He's just benefited by the fact that he's got several people working for him. And he's making really good alliances or really good bonds should say, yeah. I mean, I think that Tom is the kind of person where if this week had been a normal non weird week than he probably would have just been snuffed out in in the first week. He would have been a target. There would have been one at one veto competition. It wouldn't have been used. Tom would have been voted out over mooch and would have been the end of things, but he got a second wind much like our recent survivor winner. And now now be thanks to Ricky and Tom's zone. You know, maneuverings I think he is in one of the best positions in the house and people are not looking at him anymore because they're focused on each other. Because they can't communicate almost like, and this is probably the mentioned before. But in a lot of these games, especially big brother, though, if you're on the block the first week, and you stay that's probably one of the best positions. You can be in and out. I mean, it's terrifying for that first week, but the payoff might be worth the risk in the long run. Yeah. So we then have Jonathan and Ricky Jonathan is going to campaign for Ricky's vote. He says, hey, your vote might be the deciding factor, I need you. And here's the thing. If you vote with me, you helped me stay then you'll have myself, Joey and Ryan all working to protect you basically just calling out his own alliance. These men are going to continue to campaign to Ricky and just pump him full of all of their worst information. His Houston thing the reality is that these men do want to work with the women. They they want this alliance to work. They don't want to betray them. That's the reality. The reality that they're selling Ricky is that they're distancing themselves from the women because they're trying to tell Ricky that. Hey, we won't work with the women. We'll work with you. Instead because the women aren't giving us anything Ricky is giving them little tidbits. Like, oh interesting, which is more than the women are giving them and. So they're selling Ricky something that is not reality something that is much worse than reality from the women's perspective. And then Ricky's able to run that back to the women and inflame their suspicion of the men and then again the cycle continues. And it's all it's all bad for them. This is this one on one for how not to play big, brother. It's great. I mean, people people been talking about if the game is going slow, so far I wouldn't say, it's it's it's slow. There's definitely a lot of things happening. It's just a little more confusing in trying to follow LVN piece. It all together. And I will say I was concerned with Jonathan leaving that the maybe not enough people are playing the game. Not the case don't need to be concerned about that with Ricky in full all the way with Tom there with I think candy who is going to be overlooked for a little while. I think I think she could be a force toward the end. And then you've got these sort of like to blundering. Gender alliances that are kind of like bumping into each other being controlled by the outside forces. I think this is I think this is a good setup here. So I'm pretty excited. I didn't want to see Jonathan and Ryan like run the game. Anyway. Right. Yeah. I mean. Why would have happened? You know that would that would be like like Haley infacy running the game. Which what is which Mets Mary Jonathan is Haley and Ryan, especially. Makes sense then Ryan's in love with Jonathan. So it all works. Yeah. Who's Joey though? That's what we gotta figure out. I don't know. We'll see if he drinks out the pots and pans. He's raw. Yeah. He's rockstar. Oh my God. It's perfect. Wow. This. I think this is actually pretty good analogy. I think I think they all work in their own ways. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then I mean, I don't know if Tom is going to if he's the Tyler. But I don't think he is. I think Ricky Tyler. Yeah. I don't I don't know if there is a Tyler here. Unfortunately. All right. So we also have tame mar and Natalie taymor is going to again pitch. Hey, guys. I feel like we're getting played here. I feel like Ricky is lying to us potentially. And maybe we should not be going after these guys. I don't think they're after us. I think we're getting played and candies the mastermind behind it, all she's she's maneuvering everything she talked to Ricky, and she got Ricky to convince us that we need to go after Jonathan. But Jonathan is not coming after us. We shouldn't go after Jonathan we should go after candid, Kenny, you believe that's the thing that we need to do we need to get candy out of this house. I like this potential scenario that she's talking about though. I mean, if that was the case great. I mean, she she's close, right? She just thinks that candy is behind Ricky. But it's actually Ricky. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing is like if candy makes it through this vote. She she definitely is going to be like she's going to have more power in the future. But has nothing to do with the reasons are thing like and no one, even if this was the case, no one would believe it because of the history of the Jimmy momentum way. And that's that's what should keep saying. She's like, no, I'm telling you onto something. But you keep dismissing it because of my personal beef. We candy. But no, I'm right. And it's like, you're almost right? But you are influenced by your beef with candy. So she had if she had been able to just keep that a little more under wraps and still use it as her motivation. But just without everyone knowing that it probably would have worked better. Yeah. She does like the she gets Natalie and Lolo thinking like maybe we are getting played. Maybe we should just go talk to Jonathan. But at the end of it, all they just go. No, she's just influenced by candy that we we're not going to do that. We trust Ricky Ricky's a good guy. So so it all it all blows over taymor. Does get into an argument with Ricky that we did queue up at the start of this update. The argument is that she says, hey, I saw you talking with candy in that room. What were you talking about? Ricky says I wasn't. It was never gonna room candy. I wasn't talking to candy. What are you talking about? And she's like. What? No, no, no. You're not going to. I saw you leave that room. He's like what what I don't don't don't be playing like this. I saw you leave that room. Because like I mean, I think that maybe I walked into that room. And nobody was in there. And so I came right back is that what you mean? No, nope. Eye candy was in that room. She was not in that room, though. Candy. No don't be doing this to me. And he said don't be doing this to me what was happening here. What's going on? In an estimate. It doesn't it doesn't exactly get resolved. Either. Like, most of these so far it basically it like escalates escalates gets to a crescendo and then just vanishes. And then they sit silent in the room for like, thirty minutes. And then they both get up. And then they eventually come together and talk again and Ricky's like look seriously, though, I wasn't in the room. So I can't believe this. He eventually realizes this is not going to go anywhere. And he's like, okay. Look. I apologize. If I have not handled this properly, and if I am doing anything to make you upset I wasn't in the room with candy. But I I'm sorry that this has gone the way that it's gone. I really don't want anything to to blow up between us. So I apologize and taymor is like, okay. Okay. And then he leaves and she's like now. See that's the thing. This is why I'm saying that candy can't do anything to fix the situation with art. Because even if you apologize tomorrow is not going to believe it, you basically, I am pretty convinced. The Ricky is telling the truth here that he was never in the room with candy. And so if that's the case like he basically the only way for him to solve this situation is to lie to her and say, you know, what you're right. I was in the room with candy and then make up a conversation. I don't know. I don't know what else to do in that spot. I don't know. I mean, this complicates. If this continues to be an issue between them probably over. But if it continues to be an issue, you got imagine at some point Ricky is going to just decide are going with the candy side of things. I mean, that's I mean, that's like it's what they keep talking about. But you know, what are you gonna do Tae? Mar does come down from this. Eventually she she talks to Ricki again a little bit. You know, we're will. She also talks with Natalie and says, you know, what I really need to fix this Natalie this this candy situation, we need to we need to make it. So it's not as awkward and Natalie. I think is a little bit skeptical, but happy to hear the tame Mars willing to make an effort. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's not the last time. We have that same conversation. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's a messy house here. It's a messy house. All right. So I mean, that's that's basically what what happened yesterday moving into today and the eviction tomorrow it's looking like Jonathan is in a lot of trouble here. He does not have the votes to stay. However, given how close Natalie and Lolo have come to changing their minds about this over the course of this day. I don't think the Jonathan is completely out yet. And I don't think it has anything to do with him. I think it has everything to do with taymor and candy. And so tomorrow might be able to convince Natalie and Lolo to go after candy instead. And there might they might eventually go to Jonathan and clear up. These miss communications if that happens, then these two groups could come back together and take candy out. And then they would be pretty significant force in the house. So watch out for that. That is not off the table quite yet. But. Not particularly likely at this moment, given communicating I just don't see tame are really being able to sway this vote. I think that it seems right now she's more resigned to like, okay? I'm voting for candy because I want to. But it's not even like she's running around saying, you know, we're not going to be in alliance ever if you don't vote this way. Yes. And I'm kind of I'm kind of hoping the miscommunication stays stays put unlike in this house configuration here, I don't wanna see the big alliance reform. So let's let's see what happens. Let's see if Ricky and Tom can keep them away from each other. And we'll see we'll see how it goes. In. The meantime, Tom's just in front on the feeds. So you just want to watch the they really the feeds really love him in the show does. I mean, they're kind of just giving into whatever he wants to do. Yes. He he likes to do some late night shows for us. Yeah. Yeah. House tours. Late night shows. Indiana Jones impersonations route the stuff going on really great and playing the keyboard, which I just think it's ridiculous that they're allowed to have keyboard in this house. But what are you gonna do? All right. So that is our life. You'd up update for the day. We will be live tonight with our first LLC roundtable of the season. So check that out. 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Sees you know. The ring, you know. Ross said that he could do tomorrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for February twelfth. I'm turn Armstrong. And with me today is a mon-. How're you doing on? Hi taryn. Hi, everyone. I think just was school into Twitter. And I think I just saw. The ruling on the field. Delivered jerseys funny phone fingers and everything you mean for the game. But what you really get is so much more FedEx delivery game day spirit. What we deliver by delivering or someone. Today is the anniversary for rob has a podcast if that's the case happy anniversary to you Darren, and rob course arrest the rest of the H P team. Well, there you go. If it's just Bush that I'm pretty sure I thought Robb respond to that tweet. So this is like a fraudulent, you know anniversary. Well, wishing I'm so sorry, but regardless happy non anniversary if not all right? Sounds good. Here to update you on everything that happened on the big brother celebrity to live feeds yesterday. We do have some stuff to update finally the veto was plagued. So we have an update here. We're also going to get into low lows game across the whole three weeks of two. So we'll talk about Lolo as well. Try to find some value in what she's done. I'm sure there's something somewhere. I mean, I mentioned I picked she's the last meeting room or other draft that I mean, so you know, I'm gonna author try. Optimistic as possible. So that I can feel good about her winning. Yeah. That's too because they wanted to do. So let's get into the day. I first of all. Candy and Lolo got into a little bit of a thing the previous night where candy talked to Lolo about how Lolo has votes in the end she can win and Lolo got very mad about this. Like, no, I I don't have votes. What are you talking about? That's nonsense. Why would you say that? Yeah. That conversation that usually takes place a lot towards that's part of the game. Where, you know, someone's like, oh, you know, you really are someone that could have the potential to win. And of course, that's the worst thing that you want to hear because you wanna remain under the radar and a piece of me is like a piece of feels like damn what what did you actually take actual offensiveness and not like fake in game offense because you. She's such a firecracker. You just never know. Just how are he's willing to take it in terms of expressing her anger. So it was kind of it was always entertaining to watch for me. Yeah. I I love candy did not love this this move by candy to basically, let low low. No, I will not be taking you to the final two and low low is going to remember this which is very important because low low is going to end up winning this power of veto candy did not win there. It was apparently literally a hurdling competition. And you know, when I heard that, you know, my first inclination wasn't even to be of set about it being hurdles, I was more upset with Lolo because she was complaining ever since the feeds came about Phyllis. You had a hole in her chest and feeling like she was just going to die and that she'd never been through something like that before. And I'm like you are in Olympia like how are you not? How is this? The thing that takes you out. I don't I mean. But she's she's been out of practice in a in a way for the past three or four weeks, so fine. But it's just it's it's so weird to me. It's so weird. Yeah. So Lolo is going to have this this win here. And really worst case scenario for candy that low wins it, you know, even if nobody else would have used it on her. There was at least a chance that somebody else with the leverage who would have been more inclined to. To keep her. But especially given this conversation she had with the low, low, low low is very anti candy at the moment. So right away. Tame Maher is going to go go up to Lolo and she's going to. Hey, I saw candy and DNA they were slapping hands. What's up with that? Why are they slapping hands is there's something going down? Are you going to put me on the block getting voted out is that what's going on Lolo? What's happening here? No, no, no. We're good. Like, no, I really I actually really would like to get rid of candy. So now and taymor. Of course, she's she's going to feel paranoid because it's down to that point. And like, I mean, I I would feel the same way if I saw the two of them slept especially if the both of you just lost like with a slap in hand, you slapping, hands for what's what is going on. It was funny Ricky eventually comes in and they're like trying to decipher okay. What could they have meant, by slapping? Probably just happy. They're glad just to have gotten this far. Right. That's what's Crowley. You're probably going on Lillo does tell her in this conversation. You know, I wouldn't look even if I did use the veto. And you went on the block, I wouldn't vote you out. Definitely a red flag here for taymor. Yeah. It should clue her in. But I think that she's just she's just so fixated on not wanting to be on the block and knowing that she's made it this far. And all she has to do is make it to the final four, and they can play in the final three h h that, I guess take certainly things that should be clothing you in your kind of willing to silence those alarms in your head because you're that close. But it should definitely like like you really like. You have to think about who you can be. Can you beat Lolo you beat Dina? Can you be candid? Can you beat Ricky like who do you who do you want to sit next? I know that we know that she wanted little when the Beato she has some of the power right now, she was kind of acting like she had like more than she usually does last night. But. You have to start thinking about that too Justice as think Lolo thinking about who she should be you have to do the same. Yes. So taymor talks to Ricki. And she is talking about how it's clear the low low doesn't want candy to stay. But Ricky do we really want deana to win? This thing. Do we want to be in the final four this? We want that to represent our season. Taymor is going to spend a lot of the night. Very clearly campaigning for his candy to stay trying to pretend that she's not campaigning for candy to stay and. I'm all about I really want her to succeed. Even though it's probably not the best thing for her game. Like if she really wants to take candy to the final two, but you know, I stopped rooting for strategy a long time ago. Just just keep candy ass. Yeah. I mean this. This was not the season for Mr. Terry. This is not your season. But. Honestly, I guess I've come around to DNA sort of taking this as well. I mean, don't at me bitches. I'm sorry. But like, I you know, I sort of see I can make a case for all of them at this point. Like, I really wouldn't be that upset if any of them one sure there are people that I would like to see when more than some of the others. But you know, like, I'm for candy staying if she goes, so be it. If demons stays until the end and end up winning this in the final do so be it if they Mark and somehow get herself in the final two and wins. So be it. You know, like, I'm it's I'm along for the ride. I concur with your with your sentiments. It's not the best move for candidates. They into in terms of team orders game. But you know. I think one of the outcomes I think would be really fun is if if tame mar got to the final two and she. Obviously I want candy to him. But if she can't because she has to cut candy. She cuts candy at the final four takes Lolo. And then and then like makes this big speech about like I had to make myself not liked. So that people would want to take me to the end. A big fan of this game. If she comes out with like a big speech that wins the game. I'd be I think that would be pretty fun. I think that would be like a nice somewhat strategic ending. Yeah. I think that's something that she's capable of doing. Because I mean taymor hasn't had a lot of power in the game in terms of like Kant win. So we don't really see. I mean, she's she won. She just wanted to we don't necessarily see her, you know, enacting a lot of plans like she's social issues been covering her basis. But it would be interesting to see just what she would do because she does understand the game. She came into the game with a lot more understanding of how it works than her than her peers. So I think it's something that she is capable of thinking about and actually doing so we'll see I mean. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind that I think it'd be a bad s way to end the season. And I think that it will be hard people be hard pressed to be like, oh taymor. Never deserved the worst. She just you know, she did the she made the final move. She got. She got rid of Casey if want to me gets rid of Casey. And then pulls the Dan geese Ling, which is make compelling revisionist history and your final two speech that tricks. The jury like that would be so much fun. Exactly. I'm I'm down for that. So so tame are saying that she wants candy is she's trying to imply that candy is the better person to stay to Ricky. She says that Lolo clearly wants candy gone. But so she needs to have a talk with Lolo and Ricky's like. Feel like that's probably not your best move right now. You don't know piss her off that's going to turn into a thing. She's got the veto. Maybe maybe hold off on that. And a little like very much reminds me of the conversation. Ricky had with Tom about talking with tame, mar and taymor is like, hey, I can handle it. It's. It's Tom Ricky really is a all last night. He kind of just. He's like one of my favorite gifts of that guy. You want to do that. Deal with taymor all season long. They were the bedroom alliance. So he's pretty pretty pretty keen on how she might respond to certain situations. So it was very amusing to watch him pretty much walk around eggshells and sort of between a rock and a hard place because the Lolo can be the exact same way Lolo in taymor are two sides of the same damn coin. So. You know, him trying to stay above the fray, but also just have enough influence his best interest. Workout is is interesting manipulation and gameplay to say, the least I actually I actually feel like he's doing a pretty good job here. Because if you think about it heading into this veto as I've been talking about in the updates. Lolo has kind of been drifting away from wanting to take Ricky to the file to taymor has been talking with Lolo more about taking her to the final two. I do think taymor would probably go with Ricky over Lolo. If candy was was not there. But, but it's you know, these are two players that I think that if they fight with each other today the day before the finale the day before they make that decision. They're less likely to take each other to the end because they care about who they sit next to they keep talking about like not wanting people like Dina to represent their season. And so if Ricky is able to stay neutral between the two of them and have the good feelings of both of them while they battle it out on the side. Then then they are both more likely to be like, screw Lolo. She she got mad at me for wanting to keep candy. I'm gonna take Ricky and vice versa. So I actually do feel like Ricky is is. Is having a pretty decent job here doing pretty? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, he essentially is keeping taymor cold. But also letting willow Nola glow you one. So whatever you wanna do that. It's your decision to make and the really isn't much that we can say, so it's it's your decision. And at least I mean at the end of this conversation that left Lolo with, you know, with the general notion. Okay. Well, I'm going to sleep on it. I'm gonna play on it. And I guess we'll we'll talk again tomorrow morning. So if this, you know, eventually makes Lolo just ponder and ponder mourner head, and she ends up doing something that team are wouldn't want her to do in getting rid of candy and sparks fly. I mean, Ricky sitting pretty he can, you know, use that to his advantage in think that that's I mean, it's a it's it's also this whole thing about Dino being there visited of this season. Honestly, I have Dina won this game. We would never see her again like Meriva short Meriva is the Representative of celebrity big brother season one and other bits. You will continue to be their Representative of celebrity big brother in. We'll see here come back to host comps. She'll be back on the Facebook chat. And all that stuff. I don't think I don't see Dina ever really come back. That's see her winning. It'd be okay by I'm gonna go. Find my catfish live my best life. No, she she's such a mom. I could see this being like very much like Murray. So like, hey, look, this is my thing. Now like if she wins. I think if she loses she's gone, but I do think she might be around if she if she wanted. Maybe maybe I just I just find her so low key that I don't think that this is her a gig. Honestly, I mean, I could be wrong. But. I guess we just have to wait and see if she wins. I do. But I do think that she would be a good representation of like for the like she's been one of the most positive people on the show with such a negative season. I do think it would be nice. She's she's definitely the least polarizing character and has a game player. She's very polarizing people. That were like, hey, I don't she hasn't done anything. So we were like, oh, no. She's done the perfect game. She's saying she's you know, she's got all the way to the end. She coasted she floated or whatever. So in terms of gameplay, no in terms of a person issuer chart because that's that's really what they're talking about. But obviously be would be the best Representative of the season. I think we're all clear about that. So Lolo talks to Ricki. She says that she really wants candy gone. She knows candy won't take it to the final two. And she has the days down can't he's been studying. And so she's a bigger threat in the final four. So she's considering using the veto on DNA to make sure that candy goes home putting up taymor next to candy. And then they can make sure that they vote to evict candy Ricky's says. I don't know tame Mars going to like that. They do have a conversation with taymor and little. Let's taymor know what she's thinking taymor is very anti on the block. I don't like that idea yet. She she's I've no problem vote can be oh that said candy Dina's come close to winning comps some more than candy has so something to consider Lola's. Yeah. But can't better days. And that's what's coming up. Okay. Okay. But but Dina winning the game that would really suck. Right. That would really suck and little but wouldn't candy winning suck too. And yeah. Right now, it's up to. So they kind of the kind of have a bit of a stalemate here. And they decide as he said, let's just think in pray on it and talk about it in the morning. Yeah. It was it was it was a ping pong match. Because I was I was sitting I was last night washing. This all go down while blinking Horsely. And I remember like after the home shows sort of died down. I was like, wait. So what what are they gonna do? I it was really hard for me to to ascertain the the end goal be summation of that meeting. But lows. Lows them pray. And I guess she talks to God. And whatever God tells you to do this morning, she owned it. So now, we wait. I guess that's that's really what we ended the day with here. We'll probably get a better understanding of who's going to be going home. It does seem very much like it is going to be candy at the moment. Lolo does have a lot more leverage. Really what it comes down to is. If tame all wants to force the issue needs Ricky on her side, and if Lolo is not going to use the veto, she probably will need to get some confirmation from both at least, Ricky and taymor marb. But at least Ricky that they will be voting to Vic candy, and I don't think that Ricky would be willing to go against his word for the sake of candy. So it seems difficult to find a scenario where candy stays unless taymor is able to. Convince Rickie enough that the two of them are able to convince Lolo that they need to keep candy doesn't seem particularly likely right now. But it's not completely out of the cards quite yet. Yeah. I guess work on work on the one that's more inclined to agree with you or has more reason or is more malleable on and then work with the most rigid part of a triangle of and I mean. As far as the way the things have been going on. Now. I just feel like another visit Beatles coming up. So that changes the dynamic. But I I I agree. I really don't think that there really is enough time for them to to really convince I don't even know if team working really convinced me Ricky at this point. I just think that I mean, they all three of them have been slants for so long now. And I think if there's two people that are already leaning more towards one way that it's probably wanna sick that way. Because you know at this point in the game. It's just you got get to the end gets to be in the end. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you know, low low has the leverage here and really it's not in any of their best interests for candidates day. Lolo is completely right. They candy knows the days a lot better than DNA. Does. She's been studying a lot more. I think she is a lot more capable of winning that final HOA JR. And if either Dino or candy win the final h all three of them lose the game hands down. So they should go with the person who's less likely to win the competition. It is again in in Lola's best interests in Ricky's best interest, and in taymor is best interest that candied those not stay in the game. But. You know, that doesn't mean that look these players they're not that great. So yes. Yeah. It's so interesting because I thought about candy being able to win, and I was like, it's very it's sort of similar some Orissa in that they both have not won any competitions. But now it's like that kind of game can work for so many people. But sometimes you have to match your your social game with at least one or two confidence. Sometimes you can't get all the way to the end without getting some power on your hands. And I think if we see candy go home that's pretty much. What her story will be it sucks? But you know. And something else to consider especially after last night the episode. I think was I talked about this last night. I do think that it was kind of bad for Lolo. It was a lot of Lola's worst moments. I think it was kind of good for taymor and Ricky who who had some some good moments rookie was a little less visible. But but I still think he came off decently. Well, and this was kind of confirmed a little bit in the social media. I think we I saw a Jonathan. He liked a tweet that said anybody Lolo previously. It had been no negative about K, mar. And he was negative about like, it seems did seemed like Jonathan was most negative toward taymor and Ricky, however now he's liking tweets about anybody. But Lolo that episode again, probably reminded him of when he was betrayed by low low, and she cried about it and all this non. Sense. That was super annoying could have had an impact. Also, I saw the first Kato inclination here. Also, very anti Lolo specific after the episode air immediately after the episode aired so KEDO I think is exactly the kind of person who would be swayed, but he he goes to watch this particular episode because he knows he's going to be in it. Because the clip show, and then he sees all this stuff from Lolo that he probably hadn't really seen before. And he's very influenced. And now he's liking tweets about antilock. This could make a difference here when it comes to tame our versus low low, I think Ricky probably already was beating Lolo, but but also could make a difference there. Something else that I talked about last night and went into a little more on Twitter is that she did have an exchange with Joey on Instagram where she she tweeted something Joey found it very he was like, oh, thank you. He did a screen shot posted it on Instagram. He was like, oh, thank you. This is. So I can't believe you said this little this is so wonderful. And then in the Instagram comments Lolo Jones, the official Instagram account responded and. Yes. I was like did. I miss something in my dumb. What's going on here? So Joey says, wow, I just want to send his shadow to Lillo Jones for the kind words. Yes, you'll Lolo. They truly mean so much we had a few tense moments in the big brother house. That's for sure. But you're an honorable person. And I respect your passionate, faith and your unrelenting fire to compete zone and so forth. Good luck. And God bless and his final round game. Play Lolo Jones response. I genuinely meant every word and apologized for these tents month for the tense moments. Not everyone will know the moments we had we did have is a house, and that's okay. I appreciate your words. Cry cry emoji, pardon Mogi. Lolo Jones first of all can't use Instagram. She can type things out that are sent on Twitter, not Instagram, obviously, not allowed to view any comments made by anybody outside of the house. So she lives. There's no way that she could have responded to this. I thought maybe I missed something. Maybe something happened that other people would be able to explain nobody is able to explain this my explanation. The only thing that I can think of that. I did talk about last night is this has to be the person running low lows Instagram account impersonating Lolo. To solidify Jerry votes. And why in? Why on God's green earth with Joey not realize? Three you on Instagram in the house doing look you have access to any of your DM's any of your mentions on Instagram. Guardians house seared. What the hell is going on? I love this. I find it. So funny. And you know, what you know what kudos to win a little account. I might need you to run mush it. Obviously, you are way better at it than I am. Is that's that's while. That's really well. I was like Instagram. What was it like it was pay part of her veto win? Was it come like? I know. That's what I was thinking five minute Instagram package. Like, I don't understand. That's that's very that's very strange. I guess it's clear to say that gratin area is now like the final jury member and swaying jury back and forth. And I mean on one, and it's sort of like disappointing because you're just you get so used to the regular version of the brother, and oh, no they need us. They can't even though poison them. The Nikkei can't everything, but that's just how this version of the game works, and this might inform a lot of their future players. Like, look like they're going to watch this back and see it not only that. But there are going to be edited clips there's going to be a clip show. Eventually be the best part of that clip show. Don't be the worst partly you don't wanna piss too many. People off in. It's it's just another layer of g I guess, I feel like this is one of my few social media posts where I feel like because I posted the screen shot of it on Twitter. And I felt like if I want if I wanted to be incendiary, and I wanted this to go like just get really big. I could have I could've made like a Lolo Jones cheating and like all of the casualties have been so confused. They would have been fire. It would have been controversy. But. I just I couldn't I couldn't do it. I to be to be less crazy about it. But this does wonder petty. You I'm selling you. Anybody post this on the Facebook group, or whatever you will it will blow up. It's yours. It's yours to do. Wait on their next fix to be to be pissed off. Yes, exactly. So in this did make me wonder has Lolo Jones been posting a lot of like kazlo has been tweeting. A lot of things that are directed at people. She tweeted at Jonathan like, oh, I love you. I'm sorry for the way. Things went in the house. Was that actually Lolo we've been thinking was because Twitter. But who knows that this? If her social media person is willing to impersonate her here, maybe they've been impersonating here, the whole time, maybe all of this social media jury work has been heard your social media manager the whole time. If so. Frocks to ever the hell she has one in her shape because that's that's that's that's masterful. I would hope it it. It's I'm like, I would I would hope that like if they if they went through the trouble of getting them in i-ipad, and then making giving them only access to one social media platform. I would hope that that will be the social media platform that they agreed to have total autonomy over. But then again, probably not because I'm pretty sure they like Jonathan was one of the first accounts to tweet, and it was him with a picture of like a mocha or some shit. And it's like where would he have gotten that picture on the ipad that they pre upload pictures? And then I paid for him to tweet out like they probably have other people on that on. I'm pretty sure I saw Tom green tweets that weren't from Tom green. When he was in the house that we're like from his I know his his Instagram promoting like his show coming up like that. So. Hey, I once again, another layer Sharad as you make sure that you know, you gotta get somebody gets you a social media publicists entered Tren. Welcome on the chat says Lillo higher. Dan, geese linked Doron or social media. All right. So there you go. That's nice little taste of of Lolo before we get into her game. But but really I did want to go over some of the jury votes that we're looking at here in preparation for the round table tonight. We'll go into more detail, but I I've been counting Ricky Natalie, Tom and Kato as Lolo votes, if she's next to tame, mar if Kato was swayed by this or maybe maybe he was tame are the whole time. But given Tom's social media likes, and such and Cato's feelings toward both of them really did seem like he was probably leaning one way. But if if if if if Lolo doesn't have Tom and Cato, then I think that taymor has a very real chance to win this one. I do think Lolo still probably has Joey. So that's important because if she does have Tom and Kato, and she has Natalie and Ricky, and she has Joey and then she's already one. But if she doesn't have Kato anymore that? She might not have Tom. And I think the field goes wide open at that point. So tame are definitely I think has has some chance here based on the social media likes. Now. I'm all about reading the social media likes. It's probably the one of the few times where you have to actually be worried about them damn likes. That's bets. Yeah. So it's been confirmed that mooch is not voting, right? Or is that in firms? I I've read it in lots of places, and it would make no sense to me that he would vote. I don't know if I've seen it directly from CBS, right? It's kind of interesting because he's probably going to be at the finale. Yes, I've heard that he's going to be at the finale, but he's not going to be one not vote. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So let's talk about Lola's game from the start to the end. Lolo she enters the house. She immediately bonds with Natalie Ricky and taymor those are her roommates. She has an Olympic connection with Ryan which sort of helps bring her into this Jonathan alliance. It is formed on night one. This Jonathan alliance is not going to last very long because she quickly becomes dissatisfied with it. She says that she is jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship. And so this leads to some tension when she flips off Ryan's picture and front of him and that leads to him being like, hey, maybe I should make a move on low low. She clearly hates us Ricky wins. The veto Ricky is the wrong person to tell that plan to Ricky runs to low and tells her Ryan's plan to potentially back door her. And at this point she's done done with the Jonathan alliance and she wants Jonathan out. Meanwhile, because of Natalie's connection to Kato they are able to come together with Tom Lolo Kato, Tom and. Natalie and they start to form a kind of one week deal to get Jonathan out and keep each other safe in the following week. They also bring Ricky and closer with them based based on his maneuvering and telling them the information about Ryan, then we also see taymor go off on candy and once taymor wants candy gone. They want Jonathan gone. This drives a bit of a wedge between taymor and the women. And so they came are who was part of that group and part of that alliance does get separated a bit for the time being here, and the sort of group of five of the Natalie Lolo, Ricky, Tom and Kato we're going to move forward into the next week as the tightest group of people working together as Jonathan gets victim. And that's week one in a nutshell. Good good jobs here. And there was really that really recapitulate and everything in my head. I I think that this this. She had me very very very very scared from the moment that she started to be in her feelings about Jonathan and Ryan, and I thought, oh, this is this is this is not good. This is the part where she decides to just blow everything up and this is going to do next year. They're gonna come after her because she is proven to be owes cannon. And then it's the usual. I can't trust you anymore. You don't even tend to trust me. So I'll have to put your s up in Bilo. But. Didn't happen. She was sort of able to make connections through Natalie and sort of infiltrate herself. And also get somebody that she wanted out out on even if not everybody that she was with agreed with it. So I think that she g definitely made a tremendous error in. I think this is kind of white gets the the the snowball of conflicts of Lolo rolling at this point and people get beginning to realize that she's a bit of a hot head. She did not the the the biggest error was flipping off Ryan, and Jonathan, but I think that it's still worked out in her favor in the end, and she navigated as well as she could give that she shot herself in the foot. Let me get go. Yes. And really, I think the takeaways I got from going over their games is that Natalie was usually the strategic driver of the pair of them. It was Natalie's connection that got them in with Tom. Kato Lolo later. We'll have a better social connection with the two of them. But Natalie was the one that initiated it Natalie is usually the one that's going to be making the moves and low lows contribution to their alliance was to bring in people that she would later betray for no reason. And as you mentioned, I think really the biggest mistake Lolo makes all season long even more than her blowups on Tom Kato is saying in the diary room. I'm jealous of Ryan and Jonathan's relationship, and that being a very clear her being very clear motivation for this strategic game move that changes the course of the entire game. It really paints a bad light on the rest of her decisions in the game. When the first thing she does is motivated by jealousy. Jealousy. Not exactly a respected. Ovation. It was it was brilliant to why it was it was I loved watching her meltdown like this. But it's it's not good. And it you your will you paint yourself as this person that is willing to cut people for just how you feel that day, and it makes it very hard. I mean in the beginning of the game, people are more willing to you know, forgive their grievances of you. Because of the fact that they need it's a numbers game in the beginning. But people's people still remember that and I think that, you know, we'll we'll talk about it more as you progress through her game. But is she gets into so many more arguments that I think it just it's so hard to like you're gonna have to play cleanup and all season long. That's not it's not it's not fun. And it's not it doesn't really make you the best person to win the game in the end. So Jonathan leaves Kato is going to win the next h h and with Kato and power. They really solidifies this group of of four two. Five where previously the women were saying this is a one week deal, even though Tom and Cato, right? From the beginning thought that they were going to be going to the end with the women. But now that Cato's empower the women are like, oh, yeah. We are we doing to work with you more long term. And so low low is hoping that Ryan will be back toward this week. She talks to taymor about it. They had talked without her and taymor is mad because of some candy stuff. And the fact that they were talking without her in the fact that you might be going on block this is when low low entail mar get into their second fight after we we saw the clip of Natalie and low low in the final two and the punch in the throat, which is probably I don't know. They were both pretty good fights. I don't know. It's hard to choose the. I'm a big fan of the I know someone got one time to call me obation. Thank you. Well, then do it. Then say they do say, then say. I'm always a big fan of the of the of the verbal stalemate before it becomes musical. Whether like, you you got us on burst grown. We sit down sit down with somebody who had the diary room cool off a little bit about to Allison. Get your head. Right. Combat make up let's continue. Let's. The two of them are just two sides of the same. Larry is. So she's also lowest is going to encourage Ricky to work on his relationship with Tom as they solidify this this more long-term alliance with Tom and Kato Tom is expressing some doubt in Ricky and Lolo wants to get rid of that because Lola wants Ricky involved in this alliance. She gives them specific instructions Ricky carries those instructions out, it appears that they work. But it turns out maybe they didn't later on. They do solidify this alliance to move forward. More long-term end. She's also gonna talk with Natalie about how they're done with damar. They're done with her. She's arguing with her. Now, they're working with Tom and Katie when Ricky they don't need taymor anymore. They want her gone soon. In fact, if Ryan or Joey wins the veto they're voting out team taymor over Dina. That's the plan. And that's what they're sticking to. Yeah. I was I was sad about this. Because I you know, I'm I'm a big fan of taymor. She she really caters to the audience 'cause she's just a big character. And I thought that this maybe which is biased. But I thought this just wasn't a thought it wasn't smart. I was not smart Lolo because you just. Blink. Why why do people continuously warmed these alliances insulate themselves and then start chipping away at the installation. Come on. And like, you have you have to think logically about this understand that you live with these people twenty four seven this or to piss you off they do but come on like beaten. It's win. It think about your game. Like, what are you doing? They they even mentioned to themselves. You know, Dina's kind of moron Kato side kind of more on our side. But whatever we're just so we need to take her out this week if Ryan or Joey when the veto I pray I pray that if I ever and blessed enough to play this game that I am able to recognize like general annoyance in pissed off it nece if it were as it were and like bad for my game. You gotta go like, I would I would hope I mean, we see it all the time. So maybe it's kind of hard the lines get blurred for some people. And they honestly think that just because you're pissed off right now they have to go. But I would hope that someone would give me the clarity to be like look like, we know like. Like, you just gotta you gotta move past this like we can get through this like think about next week think about next week think about next week. She just was not able to do that. So luckily, though pretend mar Ryan or Joey do not win the veto and Ryan is going to be evicted here. So heading into week three before the wage. Ricky is going to spill some information to Natalie and low low about how Joey is coming for Lolo and Natalie and low low is pissed not happy with Joey how dare he he has. No right to be upset after he didn't want to be in on lions that I'd never actually proposed to him. How dare he I regret crying for Ryan. Really upset about everything there. She is. So Tom is gonna end up winning this veto sorry, this H and pretty quickly Natalie and Lolo are going to start talking to themselves about, hey. Do we really want to stay loyal to this alliance because Tom Cato, they're like really strong competitions keta just one and h Tom and nature wage. I don't know if we want to take them to the end, I don't know if that's really what we want to do. And they did have this conversation prior to Tom and Kato deciding that they wanted to go after Ricky's so this was in the works here despite what they claim. Yeah. Yeah. It's that this is horribly where they just weren't winning anything surprisingly enough. And I think it probably was like sort of like a little bit embarrassing for them just a little bit because the athletes of the house, and you're leading two of the oldest guys in there beat you in these competitions. It was like look like. This might not be the best thing for us. And I love how Ricky is continuously spilling information to low like she's like a little wind up dotting. And we just like why did you up get you all round up and set you free? See what happens? So Thomas going to eventually pitch. This back door Ricky plan to Lolo she gets pissed at him. They get into a fight. She can't believe how paranoid Tom is. I don't know why he would ever think that that they would ever turn on them. Why would they ever think that we're definitely targeting Tom now? Right. Like, definitely. So she and Natalie let Ricky no the Tom is after him, and then Joey is going to pitch to low low and the rest of them that he is now on their side is going to after Kato and Tom Lola likes this idea. She wants to keep him. They try to pretend Tom and Kato that they're still on board with everything, but it doesn't last especially after Natalie uses the veto, then you know, she and Natalie discussed again how much they don't like tame, mar they want her gone as soon as Tom and Kato league of Tom. I kate. We'll get to get rid of Tom Cato. Then KMart tamers next after that. That's what they need to do. She she will not play ball with them. They don't like that. This is also when the big blowup happens in the kitchen and acting classes things production damn out of my room. She she tells taymor about the MS Cleo comments and calls, Tom, a psycho, a terrible human being this is this is when everything goes goes crazy. This was probably the the ugliest fight. I think fights in the big brother house get particularly ugly every time it's between a man and a woman because then you get a lot of like. You just get a lot of the. The supposed- sexist, and massaging this undertone that come along with these types of arguments as much validity as you wanna give them or as you're inclined to, but it it was we'll continue to watch especially like, Tom caterina's beg on the table. And it was just like Lolo. Actress. The being caught an actress with a wars thing impo world, especially in this game. Was it wasn't. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. I I definitely did not go back to look at that. Yeah. So this this all goes down here, they need to keep Joey. So they work on her. But to no avail here taymor is going to want candy to stay and as does Tom Cato. So candy does stay Joey ends up being victimized and we head into week four where really nothing happens taymor wins the HR wage, she agrees Lolo agrees that Cato is the bigger threat between him, and Tom, and then catos addicted there really wasn't much else that went down this week beyond more. I we talked about the big blow ups from this point on Lolo is going to be trash talking most people in the house, and that's most of my notes consist of that she wasn't doing a whole lot of strategy this week. It was a very short week, and it was a very straightforward week. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was pointed that was like taymor H and everything is going swimmingly. Like, it was the least eventful HOA. Would've guessed like she wouldn't want him up, Tom. And now he's in power. She's sitting there putting the proper like come on now. But you know, that's how you do it. That's true. That's name retarget. Give them hell out of there. That was it. Yeah. So Tom and Lolo have a good conversation after Cato's victims about what he had been thinking why she's apologizing to her? He feels good about this conversation, which is which helps protect her moving forward with Tom even though she's going to media we turn around and and be like, oh, Tom was lying to me. Tom doesn't know that. So Tom after he wins H O H is wanting to keep Lolo safe. And then we have the whole meeting stuff that happens candy talks into nominating Natalie instead of Lolo that helps her as well, obviously, he does have a conversation with Lolo where they talk about her Olympic dreams. And how Tom wants Lola to win the game because he knows that she needs the money more. And he it's a very sweet conversation. Low lows later going to be like he used by Olympic dreams to manipulate me. He made fun of me for not having health care. How dare he? So this this I think really helps sell I think the overall message of Lola's game, which is that strategically there wasn't much there. Natalie was driving most of the decisions socially with her alliance members. She was okay at. Some of them. She pissed off some of them. She was okay with but she was there's again, especially in comparison to Natalie. And sometimes we'll Ricky there's something that's a little more genuine invulnerable about Lolo that attracts people to her more. So once they get to know her then people like Natalie and Ricky, and I think that was her true strength in the game. If we are to find one. But then to like that Volmer ability terrifies her and she hates it. And then so just so anytime she exposes the vulnerability in these like nice moments. She's going to turn around, and like, you know, hard enough tenfold and be mad and use it against the person that she opened up to which is her one of her main faults in the game. Is borderline. That's okay. But I mean, I agree that because of the fact that she is sort of just like out there with honours leave and sort of just kind of willing to give into with anybody people. You know, she's she's she's she's not the wolf and sheep's clothing. She's the wolf you see your coming in, you know, what's up in. I think that is as far as her alliance members. Go the ones that have already signed life over to her. She kind of she kind of you know, she can be she can use it as a good driving force to really get things moving in the direction that she wants them to. So it's that I would I would agree that her greatest strength is is her emotions. It's also her greatest weakness because all that she's using in this game. So Lolo is going to try to flip Dina this week using her barrage of insults about Tom on her. This is important because Dina's not going to have time. If she is a juror to see everything that happened on the show. And so when Lolo talks to her and tells her about how terrible person Tom is Dina does not agree with Lolo about this. She is later going to be like, Tom. I'm so sorry that these people did this to you. She's going to remember that low said these things, and so anytime, you expose your hatred to people like Dina that's not good in terms of that jury vote that said, you know, basically, everyone all three of the. Low low T taymor. Andrea have done this to different extents with Dina. So. But important to note. Tom is going to use the veto on Ricky and puts Lolo up on the block. She's of course, mad. They have this big thing about who is who is going to go home Natalie. Let's decide between the two of us. They have a whole thing. Trying to decide which one of them is going to lay down their life in the game. But it doesn't matter because candy and Dana have already decided that it's going to be Natalie Natalie is the bigger threat. Low low is a bigger jury go this is really the only reason why Lolo stays in obviously it was not exactly intentional on lo-lose part. So there you go Natalie's evicted. Yeah. I mean, if you it's never good before your chances that actually winning this game. If you survive only because people want to think, they can beat you. It's is not it doesn't really say much about your your social game. With isn't really say much about your game at all. It just means that people don't get your game. Is it? They may grow it in it. So yes, so. We head into the double fiction, obviously, we see low low win the next age OH, and she's going to target, Tom. She's going to have that moment. Again, not a good look to be on live TV and unable to nominee second nominee. So that's not good. But she gets. She gets Tom on the block taymor wins. The veto Tom goes home. She does smarten up a little bit. After Tom goes home. Ricky is going to win the next H wage, and while taymor is is various still anti Tom Ricky is kind of like, hey, let's chill on Tom. When she when Lola was with taymor. She's all about the bashing. When he when she's with Ricky, she's like a little more respectful, which is at least half and half, which is not not bad. But but again in the episode that we saw that the more visible stuff, we are reverting back to pre Tom being evicted Lolo days. And that's not a good look for her. And I think that the stuff on the feeds is going to be less impactful to the jury than that. So that's important to note. Right. I mean, I guess I guess it would be fair to say that Lolo is sort of the villain of the season. Edited. Yes, definitely I think that the editors definitely want to paint Lolo as the Bill, and I think that like it's something to be aware of that again. Like in that episode taymor plays ball with the producers. She gives them good TV Lolo is like f- CBS for letting Tom do this to me production. Get Kato out of my room. That's going to have some impact on like if they're looking at some stuff, and they're looking at like, how should we betray these people? They're going to be inclined to certain way. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's unfortunate. I mean, if you're going to be a villain of at least the be the level of it. When even though I'll kind of you'll like that breed is sort of died out right now, it's not really in the in the circle of fads in the big with the community being a lovable villain is still not good. But at least if you're going to go that route, willow, at least be self aware enough to know that you're being painted that way in just lean into it. But in a good way, but I just don't think that she really cares about me that I think she's just if she's pissed off pissed off. And that's just how it's going to be. So that leads us to where we are. Now Lola wins the veto and she wants candy gun because she knows candy will not take her to the final two and that's lows game. Again, you know, I did I tried to find the good in it. And they're just really isn't a whole lot there. I do think she can win the game. I think again, if honestly these leave the best thing she ever did in the game was for social media stuff, which might not even be her. But still still honestly points more to him up being her that anything else. But it was it's been good. It's been seriously good. She's been tweeting at specific players. I don't know why anybody else why nobody else is doing this. She is reaching out to them. She is apologizing. She is humble in these tweets. So if it is then it's good. It's fantastic. And if she wins the game, she might have that to thank because Joey vote could be essential. And and I think that Joey especially when he comes out of the house, and he realizes that. Hey, bashing Lolo gets me laughs, it would probably be inclined to not vote Lolo. But he was very touched by what she sent him. Probably and. So it's it does seem like she has his vote, and this could be very very tight vote, depending if she's up against hey, are even if she's up against Ricky. I think there's a chance she could have a chance there though. I do think freaky probably has the upper hand. So definitely the social media is a good thing. Just low low being Lola. She wants them comps. That was good. And, you know, just being I again, I think that the being just slightly more genuine than Natalie where Natalie was a little more composed in front of other people Natalie just seemed like the smarter more threatening person that was good for Lolo. So. If I'm looking at why Lolo got here. Why Lolo might win the game? These are the reasons she was less threatening. She was good on social media. And there was there's something there's there's vulnerability to her that she tries to extinguish, but can't and that appeals to people. I think so those those are the things that I think have contributed toward her potential success. And she wanna cuppa comps that. Yes, no ensured that. Other bitches went home. So yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, if if social media becomes a driving factor to her winning this game. It would just be so entertaining to see the rest of these celebrities clamoring for that damn ipad towards the end of the season with like on their apology tour like own I'm so sorry. What I said to unite one in the bathroom, I related need it. I'm sorry. Like, I'm ready for it. I. I really want in the final two questioning for Joey to be like, you know, your post really a lot to me and love is like which which. The I totally meant everything I said, I think. Like, you're you're well. You're so welcome Joey. And like I said, I'm I'm sorry. That's what we've got for you today. The round will be tonight at eight thirty pm eastern. I'm going to post the form for it on Twitter as soon as this podcast, and you can vote on who you're going to be voting for for America's favorite. You can rank all of the jury members in terms of where you think their votes are going to go we'll go through all of the different final two combinations. It'll be fun times. You can rate the players games, of course, and all all sorts of fun questions fun things to do here on the forms. Make sure you fill it out. You can find it on my Twitter page at Armstrong Taryn, I'll pin it to the top as soon as I posted, I promise. So check that out. And then I will be back tomorrow morning eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds, we will probably know at that point definitely who is going to be going home. And hopefully have a good idea of who's going to be taken to the final two. And I will also be going over the final two players who have not talked about yet who are going to be in the. Final four whether it's candy and tame mar or DNA and taymor small chance depending on who blows up today, candy and Andina so look out for that tomorrow. And then of course, tomorrow night, it's the two hour finale starting at nine pm eastern, and we will be recapping that and going over the winner of celebrity big brother two. Yeah. 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Exactly exactly how I felt. And I remember you and I covered that morning when Paul and Josh were yelling at Justin, Cody. So this feels a little deja vu Fridays. What do they do? What do they do them on Fridays? Something in the air tear. And I don't know. So I also want to give a an adult language warning for this update. Just in case there are any little children around. There's just there's so much profanity that happens yesterday that I don't think we can get through this update without mentioning a little bit of it. So just watch out for that. Yeah. As I was taking notes, I tried to you know, edit myself. So that I didn't say it on the podcast, and then it just got to a place with like, I don't know if I can do this. There's just so much dry. So we are we are here to talk about everything that happened yesterday on the feeds, and let's do it. All right. So we start the day. Regular strategy. Big brother. It's Tom and candy Tom's telling candy about everything that happened similar kind of conversation that he had with Joey where he's like, hey, this is what happened? I was gonna use the veto, and then the women betrayed us and so on and so forth. If you wanna stay this week, you got to figure out how to get the person with the power mar to use it on you. So that you're safe. He would love for that to happen because then he could back door Lolo. But unfortunately, Tom, that's not going to happen. So but point is he has a pretty good conversation with candy here. It starts to feel a little good about here. Yeah. This was very run with the mill like, okay. Yes. Normal conversation now that after all the craziness that happened the night before that you talked about in the morning update things are now starting to come out in the open, and Tom is more willing to talk to you know, the people outside of your lines about look this was the whole plan. This is what I really want to happen. Let's try to scramble to make something happen this week. Even though it's not the original plan, so normal sort of behavior. Yeah. Then we then we get a little crazy. I tweeted that I feel like the rage virus was was put into the breakfast of the houseguests or something or at least at least Natalie and low lows breakfast, Natalie Tom Kato Lolo get into a bit of a thing here. And it's it's a bit of a mess. So we'll we'll try and make a little bit of sensitive Kato is basically he's upset Kato's. He's feeling betrayed. He wants to he's kind of being passive aggressive in the house. And so he's kind of talking to Natalie. And he's like, hey, you know, I wish we could have talked yesterday before the veto was used that would have been great and Natalie's. Like, look you're in the bathroom with me multiple times. You could have talked to us whenever you wanted to don't, you know, don't give me this. Oh, I wish we could've talked when you are at fault just as much as us and Lolo chimes in with like, oh, yeah. You guys you guys. You had no problem. Talking our ears off the day before. But all of a sudden, you can't talk to us. When the veto is going to be used. Oh boy. Already starting to get out of hand. This is like the start of sort of the two isolated conversations that were happening yesterday essentially about why that's I won't talk to us. Why won't they talk to us? And then Kato trying to be I don't know the mature adult maybe decided to go to Natalie and try to get this out in the open. Let's just talk about you know, I feel like we should've talked yesterday. I can't believe we didn't. Although he doesn't necessarily go about it and like necessarily the best way. And then as like jazz, Natalie if she'd ever been to acting academy because of all the drama and acting that she's doing so very passive aggressive at this point until Lolo gets involved. I will say nobody is innocent here except for who I feel pretty good about things like Kato was immature Lolo and Natalie were like, whoa. Rickie was being Ricky. No. But from all of through all of this. I feel like Tom is the one that has pretty much maintained his dignity. I don't know if you agree with that. Now. I mean, no one is playing a good game. So. Game. Why we're we're not even talking game. This phone, right? Yeah. Exactly. This isn't even about game. This is about just sort of maintaining your dignity as a person, I guess because. Yeah. The behavior from everybody just is absolutely ridiculous. Except for you. I would agree with Tom. On his own like weird stuff. We'll get into this about him playing pool and testing out the pots and pans of five in the morning. But I think maybe he just seems the most normal compared to everybody else. Yeah. I mean, candy, obviously, someone who's not involved. Like candy is the one obviously the most sane. But yeah of the people involved, I would say. I would say I'm talking I'm talking team fun team fund. Ray feel Tom is is definitely the cleanest of them. Although he doesn't have a routine quite as vigorous as Joey's. So anyway, Tom, Tom is like, okay. Hey, guys. Can let's maybe we should talk about this privately. Maybe we should go talk because they're in like the kitchen right now in the middle of everyone talking about like, oh, why didn't we talk to each other? You guys talk to us forever before an Lola's? Like, no, no, I'm not I have not for this BS. I am not for this Bs and Cato's. What's what what did you say? I am not for this B S, and then Kato gets loud. He's like have you taken an acting close any bangs on the counter one or two times it's too, but that's going to be a point of contention. I'm pretty sure it's actually I think it was. Yeah. And they were in succession, so it was like. And lolo. I am not an actor. I can tell. I am an athlete. So my okay. So yeah, my favorite part about all of this is just the way that it escalates. Because it's like you said Tom green is just trying to say, hey, guys. So like, maybe we should talk about this in private because that's what you should do. But no, they're going to talk about it out in the open, and essentially it all boils down to the fact that Kato is saying look we didn't talk yesterday. You know, Lolo was the words he chose. We're out cold meaning that she was asleep, which Lolo takes a fence to what do you mean? I was out cold. You wear a sleep, you know, the phrase out cold. And so that happens the whole act in class thing happens. And there's a lot of yelling a lot of you guys are pieces of shit's from Lolo a lot of that. So yes, lots lots and lots of yelling. And then of course, Tom green in the background just being like, well, we know what you guys did very calmly. You know, what we did, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, lots and lots of yelling, you know, you pissed off everyone. Everyone hates you. Nobody likes you anymore. Yeah. And then my favorite thing. Also is just of course, we've seen this before where Tom tells one story that is different than, you know, taymor in the previous example. And this is going to be the same thing. You know, once they actually disperse a little bit from the kitchen, then Tom green. Well, we know what you guys did. And then Natalie the background. Oh, we know what you guys did you sending we know what you guys did just yelling. And then of course, you know, the whole like everything just starts to come out in the open lots of yelling and lots of complete insanity. Yes. It's it's really, and you can tell that Lolo Natalie in particular, just like they're very much. They always talk about like you guys have pissed everyone off by everyone. They mean, like taymor, Ricky and themselves, and that's greed with them. So like, they're like look everyone agrees. It's everyone. It's us plus like two people. That's everyone. Do we have so much confirmation about how? How we feel and that means it's everyone. Well, and so what's interesting is. Of course, do you have these super emotional people that are yelling, and then sort of the others in the group the candies the Dina's the Joey's of the world that when somebody is yelling like that. And being crazy. What are you going to go up to them and say, no, actually, I think you're wrong. So of course, they're agreeing with them saying, yeah. Oh my gosh. That was crazy. It can you believe what they did because low is acting like an insane person. And by the way, the same person in the house, candy, not quite an agreement with them. So actually, yes and candy. Oh, my God candy doing her make up in front of the mirror. Just trying to be like I'm just trying to stay out of this choice. How're you doing? Just like I'm just trying to not get involved. Yeah. So yes, Tom pulls gateway they go. A we know what you guys did Tom and Ricky are going to prove conversation where Tom Tom just drink. He's like, hey, Ricky, I've been trying to back door you for a while. Yeah. I get it out in the open. I've been trying to back door you for two weeks. Just straight up tells him we don't have to pretend anymore, and that's what you both sides. We're very happy later in the day. They talk about we don't have to fake this relationship and Tom. Well, he means that he's going to go straight up Turkey and tell them exactly what's been going on Ricky, though, he's dedicated to his craft tricky. I was never pretending. I never pretended. Oh my gosh. How could you do that to me? And then he just straight up leaves. He's just like just Li just like I didn't even catch that line at first I had to go back and rewatch it like I didn't hear him say anything because it's really staying in his then way. It was crazy. Yeah. We're going to get Lolo Natalie lo-lower Natalie talking with Dina and Lolo lo-lose starts this off like look Dina. I know that Tom and Kato put you up to that argument with candy. I know they made you do it and dean is like what? That's my favorite part about Dina. This whole time is Dina has sort of no sense of what she really should be doing just sort of goes along with anything that like kind of makes sense to her. So you know, Lolo and now later, they're they're the emotional ones there in that. No. Who would say that about me? That's not true. That's not true. Let me let go like, no stop. Not right now. Honey, not right now. Yeah, not Natalie is telling DNA, you'd be crazy. If you were if you walked around with kid, if you if you have friendly with Kato, no, everyone hates them, everyone sees them for who they are. And you should too. You should not be friends with Kato that would be that would be you be crazy to do that. They are ma- their male chauvinist pigs. They're threatening women. Don't don't use OC. It yourself with them Dina. They are rude to everyone on the house. And then of course, Lola's line about. Oh, but I thought they were nice guys. I thought Tom and Cato. We're nice guys. But now they're threatening everyone and their male chauvinist pigs which then for brace. Like did. I miss something. I feel like I'm watching an episode of a television show. But I missed the previous episode that setup all of this because it was really confused when they were threatening everybody and being rude over on the house, then I remember the conversations from the night previous about the them. Threatening people during I guess veto ceremony. Don't forget the looks during the ceremony the look threatening looks. Don't forget Tom playing murder mystery. That was very threatening retin-a. Oh, my other favorite part was there threatening only the women in the house. Yeah. Have you seen them threatening? Ricky, they didn't threaten Ricky never. Meanwhile, Ricky's like yelling at like, I'm trying to do my yoga, Tom, can you just leave? This is disrespectful yet. They and get on Ricky get into thing in the gym Ricky's trying to do yoga, and he just wants them to leave and catos like, no, Tom don't leave. Yeah. Okay. So this conversation was really interesting because. Okay. So you have the initial thing where Ricky they come into. Okay. So Ricky is working out in the workout room. And then Kato and Tom come in. And then rookie Tom tells Ricky about the back door thing Ricky, it's mad leaves. And then this is when Ricky comes back in and then tries to have this. I don't know what he was trying to prove that Kato is not actually Tom's friend because it was so mad as hobby. Why don't Tom you have a whole room to yourself? You keep talking about how amazing your age OH room is go hang out in your H room. Like, what is it? My room alone. And then he was like why don't you have to go with you away? Hey, does not gonna come with you because Kato's not your real friend. He's not your real friend rinky. What are you even talking about right now? You know, who else thought Cato was their friend a certain other football player right now. What happened? Yeah. That wasn't real fake fakeness. Joke though. Lolo and Tom get into another confrontation. This is one of the worst of the day. Lolo? I'm not even sure how this started. I don't think we saw the beginning of it. But Lolo is just like yelling at Tom screaming. You guys are pieces of shit. Guess what Tom? You can't play. And Tom is like how win the veto? She's like good for you, Tom. You are a piece of effing shit. You're a terrible human being. You're a psycho. Tom. Great about all of this was happening off camera. So so the camera is on like Dina and candy doing something super boring or just like Dina's just like all of a sudden you could hear it in the background Lolo is yelling show loudly. Insane things. I was so confused about where this came for. I mean, well, I can guess about where it came from because she was upset earlier. But it felt like why is he a psycho was this like related to the H competition because he won the haunted house psycho murder competition. Maybe it's so over the top. She's she genuine like. This should psychologist should study. Big brother, nineteen big brother celebrity to this is fascinating stuff. And it's disgusting about human nature. I think so I okay. So then I had flashbacks to remembering watching Lolo on champs versus pros or whatever. It was the challenge season that she was on. And I was like oh, yes. I do. Remember, she yelled a lot. And and so this is an off brand necessarily for her. I think putting her especially in this house just sort of compounds that, but yes, I agree with you. It was. Pretty interesting behavior. Yes. Tom, and Katie we're going to talk together catos like house just trying to express that. I feel hurt that they betrayed us that they sided with Ricky over us in that hurts them not trying to threaten anyone he apologizes. I'm I'm sorry America for blowing up on Lolo. I didn't mean to do that. And then they start to wonder, okay. With all these blowups doesn't really seem like Joey is on our side. Here. Joey has not Joe is still talking with them. They're spree Ming at us. Joe? He's talking with them Joey supposed to be with us. I feel like we probably don't have Joey he's also a much bigger threat than candy. We should definitely work on keeping candy at this point. Right. Yeah. So okay now, we're starting to get a little bit of strategy regarding the vote coming out of all of this because. Yeah. Like, you said we have this conversation with Tom and Kate and the gem where there's sort of working through all of these things, and Tom just I felt so horrible for Tom now moment because he was just like, well, she's saying that I'm sexist and stuff like that. Have we threaten people like he genuinely no idea what she was talking about and Kato was talking about. Oh, well, I want to go talk to loan. Don't go talk to her. She'll just yell at you. In his apologetic mode. Yeah. Maybe I should go talk to Lolo, and that's going to go poorly. Oh, yeah. But yeah, just meanwhile, Joey and all of this. You know, he's in the conversation with Lolo and Natalie and Ricky is out there. And so, of course, you know, Joey is like agreeing with everything, and he's it's clearly like he's not with tomato anymore. He's now on this side. But of course, he floats around a lot and does a lot of bathroom things as Batman. So like who really knows, but my favorite my favorite moment was actually from earlier in the day after the yelling session happened. And it was Tom and Joe in the kitchen, Joey, why do we have so many coffee, Creamer? It's like Joey important things that we worrying about right now that whole the copy creepers out, okay? Not that. I mean, look, I there's a lot of drama happening. I understand. But like can we please keep the kitchen cleaner? We want the cl- the Creamer. We don't want that out on the we don't want aunt skies. Well, yeah. But then okay, we'll talk with a K mart and the cookies later. But yeah. Each other priorities in his life. So so now the goal is. Okay. If Kato view vote to keep candy if we could Dina to keep candy, then we just need to get taymor. If Tamara votes to keep candy. It's it'll be a three three vote. Tom will be able to break the tie in favor of keeping candy. This is a very real possibility. There is in the midst of all this drama, some genuine we don't even know who's going to be a victim tonight. So that's that's nice. Tom Cato have sort of rebounded a little bit in the strategic game with everything when everything is blown up. Everything is out in the open your mistakes. Everyone's starting over basically. Yeah. So I mean, essentially the way I see it in a house right now. And we can talk about where we think K mart is gonna fall because they think taymor is really in the swing vote position for this. Because essentially, you have Ricky lo lo and Natalie that are all going to vote to evict candy and keep Joey and then on the. Upside you have DNA and Kato that are going to vote to keep candy, and Joey which leaves taymor essentially in the swing position because of taymor makes it a tied vote three two three voting to keep candy. Then Tom would break the tie in their favor to keep candy. So really in terms of the strategy. This all comes down to tame our watch, which I'm guess, I'm here for and taymor for her part as we'll talk about is basically impossible to predict. Oh my goodness. Okay. So literally Taryn I was trying to say okay for the update gotta know. What side how the vote is gonna go because we've got the episode tonight as tamers on the side toy minsiter tamers on the other side Leterme later day Mars back on the side that can pounded with all of her crazy behavior previously. I mean genuinely no idea. Yeah. So anyway. We we we continue on here. Kato does go and he tries to talk to low. I should go talk to Lolo. He goes to go into the bedroom that Lolo sleeps in and he's like, hey Lolo. I just want to get out of my room. Outta here. I don't wanna see you rookie get him out. Get him out Ricky. Hey, Brit production, get Katie. Get my road. And then Ricky comes as the bouncer to like get Kato out of the room, and you see Kato kind of backing up backing away as she's yelling for production feeds cut. Oh my goodness. Like, I just wonder what productive. What would they have done in that moment to get get Kato out of the room? Does she think that they have? I don't know some bodyguards can just hop in and drag Kato out of the room, and he's just trying to come in an apology, clear the air too. Oh, man. So that happened Kato is our sorry Natalie is then gonna talk to tame mar taymor who who's been mostly out of this. So far, she's kind of been like doing her own thing. But Natalie's going to get her up to speed, and they're going to talk some trash about Tom and Kato, of course. And then tame Maher is going to drop some hints here because like so how much can we really trust Joey throw that out there. Do you? Do you think it'll go back to the guys after this to Tom Kato after after all of this? If we keep him, and then he goes back to the guy that would be pretty bad. Right. That was like, nah, we don't need to worry about Joey. It's definitely not going to happen. Yeah. So I'm not a betting woman. But if I were there are these little hints like you mentioned that sort of indicate where taymor is leaning towards so one is can we really trust Joey do we really think he's with us? And of course, Lolo and Natalie. Oh, well, we have Tom Kato Tori, about why would we even focus on? Joey when we have tomato to worry about. And then you know him. I was like, okay. Well, but you know, I really was able to repair my relationship with candy. And I feel really good about where we are now because we essentially came into this house's enemies, and now we're on the same page, and you know, Ricky and Natalie are all oh, yeah. But she'll be fine with it. It's just a game she understands so these little things from tame are that are sort of hinting about the fact that she doesn't want to vote out candy that might indicate where she's voting could very much could Kato is going to talk to Dina and tell her when need to keep candy we need to we. That's what we gotta do if we can get tame Mars vote, then we'll be able to break the tie in her favor. Dina is all right. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. What is so funny as so Kato uses the logic of well, Joey is a bigger threat to Dina, which I think makes sense. But then, you know, this whole idea of well, Joey's the bigger conference and candies easier to beaten competitions, candy finds out that that's the reason why they're voting out, Joey and Kato is not. I mean like doesn't even think oh, maybe you should say it's because candy. We really like you. We wanna work with you. It's no it's because you're easier to beat in competitions. Yes. That can be the logic in your head. But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's the logic that you should tell somebody. Why you're keeping them in the house? But it seems so honestly it kind of seems to work out in his favor. So in terms of gameplay, I I don't even know what they're doing. Yes. It's. No sooner does we're then going to get a Natalie and Lolo conversation. There's just some interesting stuff in here. Natalie says they could. Who cares? If Cato is trying to apply they could never apologize. It wouldn't even matter if they apologized after what they've done. What they've done how they've betrayed us because they would have honored the four if Tom and Kato had honored the five, of course, it's not their fault. It's Tom and Cato's fault because they didn't honor the Natalie says, it doesn't even make sense because technically we weren't even working with Ricky. We just had our backs. And obviously, I mean, obviously, we're going to choose Ricky over those two assholes like, obviously, but it doesn't make any they're just assholes at this point is is basically what's going on. Oh my gosh. I there were just some really unfair. Just quotes that really pushed it in. This is where it starts to get some of the nasty direction. Because of course, Lolo saying while I'm disgusted that these guys don't believe in the strength of women. And they only partnered with us because they thought that they could beat us. And it goes back to the male chauvinist thing. The only reason they teamed up with us because they thought we were weak and easily manipulated the they could beat us in like if you flush back to the conversations, Tom and Cato have like alone about the women. They're like we just really loved them. And like I would just love to get to the end with them. And then Duke it out like that would be great like they really genuinely wanted to get to the end with those those two women because they liked them. They thought they were strong. They wanted everyone to get to the end together. It was just you know, Tom had his thing with Ricky. Right. Exactly. It's all because Tom and Ricky didn't get along at this. Well, I don't know. I don't want. I think it could have blown up. Anyway, this is free and Tom. Yeah. Exactly. But Tom and Ricky. That relationship is definitely the catalysts for this whole thing falling apart. But yeah, oh my gosh. Reasons a little is using was crazy. My favorite part of this conversation is how the both were talking about this game. You need people to vote for you. In the end, you need jury votes in order to win. And there is no way that we would ever vote for those two guys. And nobody else would either they have lost all of their jury votes. They can't win the game. Oh, yeah. Okay. Kool-aid man. No. It was because Tom and Kato have betrayed every single person in this house. How dare they meanwhile, go to Twitter and see Jonathan Bennett liking tweets about like oh Lolo Jones. Always the victim all the antilock Jones. I mean sounds logic. But applied in the wrong way. Lolo like, it's it's this kind of stuff, you know, that it just really makes you feel okay with a bitter jury when you know that the people that are going to be voted against would have definitely been bidders. And in fact are advocating for a bitter jury. They just don't realize that they're the problem not the people that are complaining about well. It's so hard because. If you're doing it for strategic reasons if you're going to betray someone for a strategic purpose that will further your game. I feel like that. Then, you know, somebody's going to be a bitter juror against that that okay? You know, come on get over it. It was just a game, but Lolo just show personal for so it's so unnecessary. Sometimes and I could see somebody being quote, unquote, bitter against that. Because it's not doesn't seem to be related to game play necessarily. Honestly, I everyone knows my thoughts on jury votes and everything I if if the jury voted against either Natalie or Lolo, I would I would personally declare them not a bitter jury, not even not even a bitter jury at all. Because here's the thing. They asked for it. They've advocated for people to not vote for people who betrayed people. They're not even playing a good game. They're just now they just happen to maybe be in the best spot in a house where nobody's good. And they're also just like terrible in the things that they're saying ridiculous. It's just I I'm full on saying it is not even a bitter jury at all if they vote against these people if Dino wins over them, that's because DNA played a better celebrity big brother game. And I'm very serious about that. Yes. Because you know, we talk about oh, somebody who did nothing versus someone who did a lot of good things. But maybe also did some bad things where does it even out Lolo and Natalie even Murray, especially Lolo are just on the negative side and Dina's on the did nothing just kind of like hanging out. And that is overall a more positive and better game. I think in this situation. So I would cosign that right? So that happened. We're not even we're not even at the end of this. Well, we haven't even gotten to like the worst part yet. Candy in tame are are going to have a conversation candy is going to let us know that. Hey, hi, I'm still the only sane person in this just in case anyone was wondering like I mean, it's kind of weird that Lolo Natalie are complaining about this stuff when they they were talking about backdoor for a week. And now all of a sudden it's popped up like, okay? Sure. And all all sorts of stuff candy, again just just proving to be the rational when I listened to Ross Mathews did an interview with Jonathan. And with Ryan Jonathan seemed to really respect candy has what if the only sane people in that house? If candy does day this week, I guarantee you I was I was wondering if she could get the votes in the end, especially after the events of yesterday she would win unanimously. I think so watch out for that. I mean, I think anyone would wouldn't need Emslie against these women. This. But so anyway, candy good. Yeah. I mean, it is. So like I promised to candy. I will say because it's so easy to be influenced by the people around you and the behaviors that are going on around you. And the fact that candy is just like, I ain't gotta what is going on is insanity. But still then being willing to play like bringing it up to tame. Mar the fact that well if they were going to have low and Natalie knew about this back door plan for two weeks. Why are they bringing it up now? So still getting into the strategy. I really really hope candies days. So. Tame candy now knows that she needs to vote that if our votes for her to stay than it will be a tie and Tom will keep her. So she wants to know. Hey, are you going to vote for me to stay Tamar and Tamar says, yes, I will vote for you to stay no matter what? Staying. That's it case closed done deal. Shut it down the feeds off. We know. What's going to happen tonight? Totally done. And yes, I am definitely going to do it for sure it's totally solid. Meanwhile, Natalie Ricky and lo-lower like this t market of vote with us because she was vote with us that might be bad. We need Joey in the house. He's like a lot better winning competitions. He's going to go against the guys candy's going to have to make a deal with the guys to stay. That'd be bad. How do we convince tame mar to keep Joey we need to they're coming up with a bunch of different arguments of like, Joey better competitions candy's going to make deals with the with the guys all of this stuff? I tweeted out guys going about this all wrong. Just start a group conversation about what makes people relevant and then boom canine going to be like I am voting against her. No matter what. Because that's what happened last time. Yeah. Exactly. You got an you know, that's the thing. You gotta play the people that you're with you gotta recognize what it is that would convince them to do certain things most people in the logic or even just simple emotions. But no, it's all. About being relevant for that. Really should have been argument. You're right. So they they bring taymor in they explained to her all of this stuff. Like, hey, Joey is much more useful. He's all this stuff. Blah, blah, blah. Can't he's gonna make a deal with the devil in order to stay. And is like I hear what you're saying makes sense, but on an emotional level. I can't do that to candy. I I don't wanna ruin this relationship that we've sort of mend it a little bit. I don't want to do that. And they're like, it's look it's not about the relationships. This is a game. She'll understand just like we understood when Tom did something. So it's totally cool. We'll definitely be friends after just like how I told my social media manager to block Tom on all social media platforms. We're definitely gonna talk after we're just like you and candy. The really making a convincing argument. Yeah. Exactly. You know, what she's going to be fine? He goes Vardi repaired. Your relationship. Totally fine. It's just a game. It's just a game Lolo is just a Lolo saying, oh, it's just a game. Oh, it's just a game. Okay. Sure. Yeah. That's how you were behaving earlier just a game. Yes. So they're like. Understand and look at you have to make this. She's going to work with the guys and she came. I was like, okay. If she's going to work with the guys that does change things. I have a reason I'll be able to tell her my reason, I can ask her straight up. And if she says she's gonna work with the guys now, it'll be like, then I'm sorry. I got a vote you out, and they're like, well, I mean, she's not going to tell you for you want to hear. He's not going to give you the reason. Like she's going to deny it, obviously. She's like, wow. No. It's a game. Chip Beck is against the wall. Now, she wouldn't lie. It's not lying. If your back is against the wall. She has to do it. Yeah. This is really great. This happened a couple times. So it's it's it's no Lookie Lolo Nadal, Natalie Lolo, and yes, I did ask her name suggested no Liqi that to me. I don't know. I also got a know LOKI suggestion, which I feel is this a little less suggestive. I dunno. Nah. Put a poll out there. I don't know. Maybe you could put your poll up on. No lucky would be done wonder people want. The no Lookie came on the poll. Anyway. So no lucky is in the and they're talking to tame our and taymor a couple times. Does that thing where oh I'll just ask candy. I'll just see what you know of candy tells me. Yes, I'm gonna work with the guys or. Yeah. I would be okay. If you voted me out, then him Martha's. Yep. I'll be totally fine. And both times you can see the other three just be like. Like, okay. But no. But that's definitely what would happen. But just don't ask her. So you could tell that they were hesitant about any conversation happening between Martin candy. Yes. So what happens is taymor goes to candy and say like exactly, hey, so are you gonna have you made a deal with with the boys with these guys devil, though with the devil and candies? Like, no, of course, not. Yeah. Exactly. And see this is where earlier win Kato is saying we want to keep candy because she's easier to be not because oh we really like candy. We wanna work with candy. It actually is in his favor because candy says, yeah, they're only keeping me because I'm easier to beat and because Joey is more of a competition threat. It works. A preferred team. I mean, this is a lot like this is what team are wants to see the fact that. Oh, should they're not working together. And candy straight up says. Yeah, we're not I'm not working with the boys. Also like Dina's involved in this conversation a little bit like later, and they're like, yeah. We're we need to stick together. And keep candy and Dana. Yeah. What she does with everything. Anytime anybody proposes her anything. She was like, yeah. I'll do it. Yeah. And if somebody had run in you know, if she had had some glass of wine should have run into the shower. I've been showering for twenty five minutes. Yeah. So this is where you know, the three those three women started sort of by guess get together. If we could bring him one of the boys, we'll have all the power taymor promises. Candy. I'm gonna vote to keep you. I'm going to tell the women that I'm going to vote you out. But secretly, I'm going to keep you. Okay there. It is candy safe. End of story now information and Surrey confirms what we saw even though there was a brief time where she was saying. Okay. I'll vote candy Alpo. We'll just pretend that that didn't happen. Yeah. There we go. She promises she's going to lie to the women. She's going to keep candy safe. Her next conversation is with Joey and she wants to make a final two. Okay. Hold on. So tamers talking to Jeffey right after this. And she's like look chilly, candy, just I wish I could keep her, but she doesn't understand this game. So look if I vote to keep you will you work with me. Of course, she's like will you you'll take me all the way to the end one hundred percent. I'm serious about this. I'm dead serious. I will do this final two, then we're good. All right. So now she's made a final two with Joey. She's promised candy that no matter what she'll keep her and that she's going to lie to her allies about it. No idea. I when this conversation started, I thought it was just you know, tame are starting this strategy of. Okay. I'm going to tell the girls that I'm voting to keep Joey. But really I'm gonna vote him out. I'm gonna keep candy. And I thought that that's where this conversation was gonna go. No it up very serious. And hey, Mark essentially trying to reaffirm what Joey that. Yes. Indeed. We are a final. Do. We are going to the end together. I'm sorry. What? This'll make no Kana sense. But I guess this is what's happening right now. Yeah. So who knows and honestly not only his taymor up in the air right now. In terms of who she's going to vote for I don't even know who Dina's gonna vote for. Now at no one knows. No, no one really knows. I mean, if I had to say, I would probably think that she would vote to keep candy. But think so but like again like she's kind of all over the place. I think we could be the last person that talks to her. Yeah. I mean, really it could be and that was kind of how I felt about taymor was it's going to be the last person. I talked to tame are also that might be able to sway her to vote one way or the other. And it was so funny because Joey in taymor had an interaction a little bit before this year. Mart was eating the cookies that Joey requested Joey got mad about her eating cookies, even though he offered them to her for her to have some. And then he Joey goes, and he takes the cookies any hides them in his drawer in his bedroom. And he was muttering something about like, you can't have these. So the bath man is really protective of his whole foods cooking this. But then makes final to attain Marceau. Maybe he'll share the cookies in their final to deal cookies in my back cave. Nobody can get him. Alfred Alfred where am I cook? He's yeah. Cookies clean up the crumbs on your way. Why do we have so many coffee Creameries out? Yeah. That's that's the bath. Man for you. Then. Oh my God. I decided so much time watching Joey like in the bathroom. So that was extra punishment of today on the chances from bath men to the cookie monster. C is for cookie? You better clean it up. He's really get into children's songs there. And when in the offseason. Oh, man. All right. So. Tame our and Kato have a conversation. This. She is mad about the table pounding. She's at what was the table pounding about is. I was trying to get her attention. You pounded it twice founded at once. No you pounded twice. No, it was only once I was just trying to get Lolo to pay attention to me. So I made what was one time to get her attention. So once nose to times just threaten. The retina her. Oh god. Yes. I could not believe I was watching an argument about how many times a man had hit a table. But then I had to know to co back and watch it Bill hall says once this benign twice is genocide. So true one one. Okay. One time you hit the table. This is like shame on like fool me once. Shame on me. Fool me twice. Shame on you kind of deal slam the table ones. Shame on me. Shame on you. I don't know. Well, the table slam with a table. Yeah. It's been a long day. It was a crazy day of lettuce. Anyway, I was hurt. I was betrayed. No trace, you cannot be betrayed. No, no, no. Whole cycle of. We gotta repeat about whole argument about why Kato is not betrayed while. He's the betrayer the ultimate betrayer. The man you must not be named the guy that is bad and should be kicked out of the house. We get a whole new cycle of it. Because he said, yes, he said the b word betrayed should not have done that. Oh my goodness. And so now in retaliation Lolo does I team are, you know, what's even worse about Kato? He compared you to miss Cleo. Yes. Done. Oh my goodness. Yes. So Kato so miss Cleo. Is a black woman who wears scarves on her head. And that is why Kato made the comparison. And that is really I mean, this really sets. Hey, Mark off because she feels like he is being racist comparing her to somebody who, you know, they look similar in the sense that they have the same skin tone, and they wear the same head garp. That's where it came from. Yes. And. I think there are very real cases to be made that this was definitely an insensitive remark rod joke, and that Kato should apologize. And that yes, this is this is genuinely. Could could could be considered offensive. I think there's been a lot of debate about it. Whether or not it is. But either way if taymor takes offense to it. Then I think it's something that should be apologized for Kato. Actually does apologize for it. But but taymor does not accept the apology. Tomorrow says that he is a racist sexist pompous misogynist asshole. I don't accept your apology. Yeah. My favorite was pompous out of all of the insults. Got like racist, sexist Astle pop s. How dare she called him pompous? But yeah. And of course, this is another time where there's an argument happening off camera, and I'm just listening while watching Joey groom himself. Yes. And so. The feeds the the people in charge of the cameras and the show do not really like this anymore. They're like this drama has become a little too much. And so they want to avoid showing it I do not expect this to make the show e there were a lot of feed cuts a lot of fees being down. They hit that button. Once twice. I don't even know how many times, but it definitely brought feeds down because this was something that they. Yeah. Just clearly did not want everybody to see. So I don't know what that means. But were definitely not going to see it on the edited show. That's what I do know. Yes. So. It's a very messy situation. It continues to devolve into name calling and apologies and not accepting apologies and yelling and threatening. And just really just puts a puts a nice little bow of terribleness on the whole day. Yeah. I thought we were I thought okay feeds are kind of calming down. We're going to getting back to strategy. And then I don't know the miss Cleo thing happened. And it was I mean it was allowed like I thought Lois yelling loudly. Earlier taymor was very very upset. Like, this is beyond an apology. It's unacceptable for you to speak to me this way. I like pompous. Racist, sexist, atoll, dare KEDO. Insane. It's it's bad. It is it is bad. So that's that's what's going on in the big brother celebrity house. Hey, that's what I'm saying. Pour. A little Ryan was the Hilton make it out before this craziness came down. Another instance of Joey having the right priorities here one he goes and talks to the women to make sure that they know he's still on their side. He's like, you know. In the worst part about it is last night. I was just trying to take a shower, and they were just like, hey, can we just talk? I it was like I just want to shower shower bath man stuff is no joke. And there was another funny. Joey moment yesterday when he takes a felt like seventeen hour, long shower. But it was it was a really long shower, then Dina comes into trying to take a shower the water's cold like Joey used up all the water. No more hot water in the manner. Oh, man. So I believe I believe after Joe he was in the shower Dina was not able to get any. Is mad because Joe head to make his head super, shiny. And that takes a lot of hot water, and Tom and and. Kato? We're like, okay. Here's the plus about getting Joey out of the house. You can finally have the bathroom tears. So. Oh. Oh that was so funny because Tom locks the bedroom door he's like well when Joey comes up to try to use the bathroom. I'm going to tell him. No. Oh, no signed to watch Joey downstairs for hours. So also, some people like I said Dina's vote is kind of in the a lot of people in chat really feel like she has. She has flipped because she got mad at Tom and Cato late at night. I don't know. I don't know how solid that is. But like I said her vote could theoretically be up in the air. I mean, I think more on that today when we watch, and we will we will see how it goes tonight on the fiction. Yeah. And anything else Ileana not that? I can think of I mean fees are going to be down a lot state because we do have the show tonight. So I'm going to be looking for any little hints that I can pick up during the day about how things might be going before we go down because we might be blindsided as might be an audience blindside coming out tonight. Yes. So yeah, I. Who knows where tamer is going to be. I if my guess is the DNA will will vote with the guys. But theoretically, she might not. We could see candy state. We could see Joey stay. Honestly, I was I was rooting for Joe to I think I'd still probably lean that way, even though I like candy as a person more just because candy still hasn't really brought much. But at this point, I'm almost like if candy brings some sanity the house, maybe that's better. Maybe even like, I don't know if we need more drama. So maybe maybe candy is the better option. I'm not even sure this point. It definitely would help though, it would be fun. If what I'm really hoping for is that if taymor does keep candy that she goes along with the plan of not telling the women first. So that the women feel the women feel some actual betrayal for their from for the first time that would be real beginning. Here's the thing about Natalie and Lolo they talk so much about how they're constantly betrayed. They've never touched the block. They've never been betrayed in the house. They've people have talked about it. But there have been tons. Opportunities for their allies to betray them. They've never actually gone through with it. They don't know what it's like to have the feeling of somebody. Actually stabbing you in the back. Exactly they've been saved because of Tom and Cato in what way have they been betrayed by Tom and Kato. I I would love. Oh my gosh. In an ideal world Kato wins H, O H and puts up Natalie would make me so happy. I would just Sobe here for it. In terms of news, going home. I want candy to stay because I'm rooting for Tom. And I would think that that would be fun. But on the other hand, I really like what Joe is bringing to the house because I think what we talk about candy is mostly in person completely agree. But Joe is also not I mean, he's kind of feeding into a little bit of the drama, but not so much and he's bringing me some wonderful jokes. Like, he's crazy in a fun way. Exactly. He's crazy in a fun way. Her we I think like seventy five percent of the laughs. We got in this update, we're straight from Joey. So that's a very good point. I'm torn. But here's if candy stays if she stays because taymor betrays the women, I think that would be fun because they'd experience actual betrayal. And I think it would also kind of create three different factions in the house with no Liqi as one faction, you got ta mar and candy, and maybe kind of Dina, but also kind of not and then you've got Tom. Kato with Dina. And so with three different factions in the house, I feel like we've got some more game to be played in that might be fun as well. So either way we're going to we're going to stay. We're going to stay positive. You know, we're gonna rise above their negativity. And we're going to be hopeful for the future. Yeah. This is the black near episode where we had to do that. She was your own adventure thing. I would actually be okay with choosing either. Because I think both are going to give us just a different fund outcome. I I'm just I'm beyond excited for the episode tonight. I cannot wait to see what happens. I think worst case is that taymor decides to keep candy tells the women the women are like, oh, we can't change your mind will keep candy to and then it's like unanimous. Oh, that'd be that'd be the worst case. I think well that option wasn't on my screen thing. I'm gonna pretend like that. That didn't have early Brooker would never. Yeah. All right. Thank you guys for joining us. I hope that you were able to experience some joy from this. Even if you were as depressed as I was watching the feeds yesterday. So as bad as it gets in there. We will always have fun out here. That is the rule. Yes. So much fun because I have to go put away some coffee Creamer right now. Thank you, Joey for reminding me, I just appreciate all the little things that happen in the house. Yes. Alright. So the fiction will be tonight, I believe at eight PM eastern, and we will of course, be here to recap the episode talk about what's going on. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Saturday Episode Recap Feb 2

Rob Has a Podcast

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Saturday Episode Recap Feb 2

"Comedy live, reliable are man. It's rob has a podcast. And now, here's a guy who's big brother. Recaps are about the length of the Joey's bathroom time. I am rob cicirino already. Welcome back to a Saturday night's big brother Vic shin. We don't have too many of these in the course of the year. But we have a lot to talk about tonight with a great panel. And let's go ahead. And of course, so excited to have back on the podcast somebody who has been I'm sure bottled up and ready to go like a can of soda that's been all shaken up for about nine days. Brent welcome is back here on the podcast. Brent how're you? I enjoy doing great hit has been a hot minute since I have been on the show. And let me tell you. I have some pinions about what's happening in the house. Yes. Okay. Well buckle up everybody. Because I think it's been about nine days since has been on a podcast. I think not since the NFC roundtable last week. Have we heard from Brent? So it's going to be a fun one tonight. And of course, very excited to have back with us tonight to help us break. This all town, the great Mary Caskey Mary. How are you? I'm a little bit dizzy, but hopefully, I can sell down. Hopefully, we can kick this podcast writer this yellow goal. Yes. Yes. Hopefully, hopefully, we can Mary are you prepared for full Brent tonight that he is going to be like, maybe perhaps like a wound up Lolo Jones. Great. I'm just going to be candy sitting there front row seat to action. Okay. All right. Well, we're going to have a lot of fun tonight going through everything here with. Everybody watching us live here on a Saturday night as we break down another Vic shin hashtag R H A P for everything that you want to say later on in the show. We'll take your questions, and we'll talk about everything probably unless they get this H O H competition in that has not been how they've handled their business here in a big brother celebrity. We'll talk a lot about everything that we saw. And we'll be able to get into some things that we didn't see as well as we discuss everything coming up here on a Saturday night. We've back again live a Monday night. So this'll be a real quick turnaround of forty eight hour HOA JR. Plus, we've got all these competitions coming up on Monday night. So if you are somebody who is not happy with what we haven't seen on the show of our only gonna get worse for you. As we got about three competitions at an addiction to get through on Monday night. So all right. Let's get into everything. Brent joey. Lawrence ends up being the person who goes home tonight. I know it was up in the air as of this morning. What happened during the day to make you be a unanimous vote for Joey? Yeah. Let me check on that. Rob. I'm getting my sources to either. Rob. I don't know. What happened? What are you asking me? I I live correspondent, I have no idea. What happened? Honestly, ultimately came down to tame our and taymor decided she told some people that she was definitely not going to candy out and other people. She was making a file to alliance with Joey immoral so hell if I know what was going to happen. But I think she was able I think in the end what happened was she was not willing to vote out candy or what she said was real-life repercussions. She didn't want candy to be mad at her in the real world. I, of course, notwithstanding everything that's happened in the past two weeks, and she didn't vote around and without her vote. They knew that joy was going to be sent packing with Tom's typewriter vote. So everybody else just old suit. That's what I think happens. Okay. What is enough for Joey Lawrence tonight where he seemed happy to go. I guess sort of like. Things came full circle where he did go into the house. He did play. But like he told when he gets victim he'll be happy to go, and he came out and really it was cutting it up with Julie Chen tonight. Yeah. I mean, all in all we kind of expected this based off of what he said with. But more importantly, he's probably one of the few people left in the house who really has done much to tarnish the reputation. So you're looking at it from that angle. I think he made a good decision. Just kind of roll with it. He treated the whole thing like a game didn't get super caddy. And and I do think that unless last several days he did way probably more than he had before. And actually tried to stick around. But unfortunately, he's just outgunned by everyone else. Bring upset to see Joey Lawrence be the one to go home tonight in this episode. Yeah. I was I was actually a little torn about myself for the last seventeen days. I have been begging for Joey Lawrence to get off of celebrity big brother through the pre PR. Press and on the show because he didn't really want to be there. He acted a hoity toity about it like, well, you know, I made a talk to CBS, and they said if I did this give me a sick on initially was like like it was too good for him. And I didn't care for that. However, the past few days he has shown some game and was like tear ni- and Melissa configure out whether or not it was something he was doing actually trying to play the game. Or if it's just the natural. Join us of it all that was in putting him in roads will be good position with everybody. And I say relatively good position. Because of and so today, I really thought he was staying on. He made some pretty good moves with willow and Natalie Marie when Tom and Kato came to snow in the whole thi about what happened with the alliance. The breakdown of the alliance what they tried to do back during Ricky you totally played it off like you had no idea what in reality. He did have an idea. So you did start to play the game. And it's just so typical big brother, rob because the minute I start liking him, he's bored. Iraq. His exit interview with Julie Chen was so freaking great. If you don't eat any more evidence that Lolo is in trouble. When it comes to a final vote look at that interview because he was working with Wollo up until today, and he's making fun of her. She's not going to be happy with him. Yeah. Well, you brought up the interview let let's touch on a couple of the high points, and there was a few. So he comes out of the house, and I talked about this when Eric and I on the winter of Stein, we're talking about we had a running of will will Joey ever say, whoa. How will it happen? And I said, I bet Julie will drop one on him when he gets out of the house and true to form we got that. And Joey did not love that. There we go. Nice. I'm sorry. He knows what to do. He's not. He will never say it back. Mary. No believe at that response to the the board though. I don't know what. Nice. Sorry. Yeah. Stuff and that that was just the beginning. I could not have seen this. I mean, he's been there have been certain Joey quirks in the house like he's whole skin-care. I can't believe you talked about back that he's actually gotten his bath routine down. I'm like what was it before? He has no hair. I don't understand it. And I also don't understand how his head is shiny with hair. I mean, he has a little bit here, but get his whole head is totally shiny. Head. It's his eyelids. Everything he must Bassolino just everything up. Bizarre. But then he had such a great impression of Lolo. Let me think this in two parts so Julie gets on him about. Hey Lolo wanted to get you in an alliance. The first night though, try to fold you into this dominant alliance. I think it was like the first night. That that bad signal. But then he goes on to talk about that. How how he might have missed that from low Chee burns. You kind of lunar too long. Ios like, hey, Maine. They're one two while you look at me like what? Why are you know, please? Let me go to my room. So we could have real man. Laundry bag. Joey Lawrence does stand up comedy. Like he saw opening with the audience. Like he said he said one little he was like she burns hot that one. And he got a laugh from the audience, and you know, this kid's I watched him on give me a break like way back in the day. So he's gonna show business a long time. And he was like oh my God. I got him in my hands. I got an audience that actually likes me, and he took it and just went through that door was actually very funny bear he must be on cloud nine feeling like CVS loves me right now. I'm getting my own show. Right. They're green lighting the pilot right now. Yeah. Yeah. I can do some sort of Batman spin off or put them with with Lolo Jones how. Yeah. Yeah. Heating there. They have good odds of having them come back as the next revenge is yeah. Basically, this is every single CBS sitcom, Joey Lauren. Live someplace and then Lolo Jones moves in. That's it. Yeah. So it'll be good. It was it was really great. I say like, I friend of mine on Twitter said where was that joy Lawrence all these long because he even though there were funding quirks about him and little things that we enjoyed with the Batman stuff and all that. But he he really didn't really want to get in there and get his hands dirty too much. And it was really really frustrating on the outside wanting him to play the game. Not that there are other people in the house, you aren't doing the same thing. But I really felt like giving his pedigree someone who's relatively outlet. And the smart thing you can tell us on intelligent guy that he could possibly do. Well, if even tried a little bit, and I feel like maybe this week was just smoke glimpse of what he could have done if you actually gave a damn married did feel like that. Once he sort of touched bottom in terms of being at all the way out of power that he did scrap a little bit to try to. Shake things up. And it's looked like various points this week that might have worked. Yeah. I think part of it is also that he didn't want to be in an alliance when people approach him Ryan, and Jonathan he kind of was like, I like you guys will work with you. But I don't want to have anything firm, and it was only once they were gone. I guess I guess he's okay. Making alliance or trying to get people to work with him. Once he's the last person left. So I I like the fact that he's gone just because there's other people in the house. I this is better for, but I I feel he was given me a little bit of something that would have been nice to see for another week or so one of the he also got on Kato for having being out of shape. Having no muscle by the great job by Joey on the way out the door. But Lulu let's talk about the events leading up to that. Brent I know that we have no way that we could fit every. Everything in do you feel? We're were you. Okay. With the story that we got or what what store did we get wrong? I mean, like, I didn't even know what story they were trying to tell us. I guess they. Okay. Here's the thing. I guess the story they're trying to tell us is that Natalie even Marie and Lolo were smoked by the fact that Thomas acting like an Indian when the power came into play, and he was trying to figure out who who have the power, and they just decided to jump shed from the alliance, and that's that. But there is so much more that went into that. And I don't even look I'm I'm a realist, I don't expect CBS and this production company to put all of the stuff and a lot of the stuff that was really fun happened yesterday the day before. So it's a really quick turnaround time having said that I do feel like they missed a lot of the stuff that was the most compelling to me on the other hand, I do know that CBS end the diary room have asked the houseguests to tone it down a little bit and try to keep it a little more fun and no personal threats or. Intimidation. That's what Tom said today room told him. So I have to believe that they're collectively worried about the look of the show and the celebrities themselves, they're basically trying to protect the celebrities from themselves at this point. So given what we they showed us on the on the show tonight. I guess I'm okay with it. But there was so much more that you guys didn't see that. I mean that really goes to show why a few people can't win the game named namely low. Yeah. Bob, just by the nature of the the show, though that, you know, this is, you know, the it seemed like that there was a a lot of time where we it's that we should have to our episode instead of just the one hour episodes. So we didn't have a lot of space to work with that we had in this episode. We still had to do the veto the vote in an interview. So we did not have a ton of time. Mary what was something that you? I feel like that. We should have seen that we didn't based on what we were shown. Well, I mean, the biggest thing is just really the huge blow up between Tom and Kato and Natalie and Lolo because on the show it made it seem kind of like they're being a little passive aggressive toward each other. Maybe they don't trust each other with the real the real issue. Here is Tom doesn't trust rookie at all. And he has reasons to not trust Ricky and the girls want to side with Ricky. So because of that they don't wanna go along with his plan to backdoor him. And there were just several light Brenda. They happened last couple of days. It would have been hard to put him on the show several big shouting matches fights just ridiculous things between particularly low low end, the Cato in Tom that it would have been nice to see just so you can sort of understand why the alliance is falling apart a little more. And also why you're probably gonna have more people coming off saying that they never one vote for a low low, and you kind of need to see that to understand fully why. Yeah. Rob who are really missing tonight is the fact that the personal tax in the house have gotten to the point where like I said, the the room had to step in to the point where we're Lolo in Natalie Marie mainly Lolo are calling Tom chauvinist that he's Kato is a racist. That that Bretton women at Tom's psycho that he's asshole swear words, like really, really, look, here's the thing. I like extra as you know, what I am like the Queen of extra when it comes this podcast. But even I could not stand what was coming from Lolo and Natalie Marie over the past forty eight hours with how they were treating fell houseguests, and that's not to say that Tom and Kato have played. Well, they have played frigging terrible. They played badly. But they do not deserve the personal tax of they're getting from Lolo. And I don't understand why she's doing it all she has to say, look, you know, what we didn't want back Ricky we trust Ricky you guys. Cool, but we really don't wanna work with you anymore. Instead, it just so person so dirty, and it's to a point where actually people on Twitter like, you know, what I don't feel comfortable watching this anymore. And I have to say that I was kinda right there with them. It was it was really oddly. I didn't feel good about myself after I finished. Comparisons to this being similar to some of those scenes in big brother nineteen between Paul and just Cody. Just inter attacks. Okay. Here's my big question. And so, you know, this has been widely reported everybody's at each other's throats. Nobody's getting along. Mary. How do we end up with a unanimous decision to send Joey out of the house? And does that tension? Splash some cold water on everything. Yeah. It's tricky because I'm looking through my notes trying to figure out exactly when that happened. The they there were a lot of hints toward tamer and Dina in particular siding with Tom in Kato that there's something in Tom Cato all day yesterday have been trying to get to them on their side. So that they could keep candy in the house because they feel that Joey was probably going to be who low low in Natalie Marie wanted to keep. So by getting that sort of faction out of the way, they my guess is that the maybe tame are told the girls like, hey, look, the vote is either gonna be a tie in which Tom breaks the tie in. In favor of candy staying. So you can either hop on board. And that would be the only reason why I could say that it really is going to be unanimous. Oh, though that and there was a fight between low low in Joey just another one of these ridiculous main about the food they were buying so that might have contributed to the tipping point. But it it it benefits Tom in Cato's. If you're still on their team. I think it's a good thing. Overall for them that can't remain. I know that it's frustrating for the life feed people because there's so much that that happening house it's hard to show. But I thought this was a pretty good episode of the show. Just in terms of like, if I'm somebody who doesn't know what's happening on the live feeds, and I'm tuning in for this one hour, I think you've got a pretty solid show tonight. Yeah. I would probably agree. I talked to my mom. She's a casualty originally watch big brother for like a season and a half now. And she enjoyed the episode. She had a few questions for me. Like, you know, what the hell happened in? Why do they want? Nevada, but I've been trying to tell her locate win, and she doesn't really see that yet. I think TV viewers do not see what the rest of us see which is that low can't win the game. By can't. I mean, there's no possible way. I don't care who she's at the end against she can't win in my opinion. And you heard it here. I I have a one stock watch meeting. She cannot win the game because she has played two point where I do not think that celebrities on the outside having getting view everything. Remember, this is not a sequestered jury. They get to watch everything we get to see everything that she says. And if they don't watch everything that she says somebody's going to tweet them and show them everything that that she said about them. And there have been go back. How yes. Anything? She's she's making excuses every time for why she betrays other people, and then she shouts that everyone's betraying her. When like chairman of morning update, no one has betrayed her. So far, no one has actually done anything to put her or not only Marie on the wok or even Ricky it hasn't actually happened yet. That was the thing here and had a great point about on. And I've been saying that a lie really need to watch the. Not a good point. But no for real Taryn had a good point on the life update. When he said, you know, hey, if you if you base your game on personal than debt as personal attacks that a jury is never going to reward that if you can somehow couch your decisions based in strategy and sell it to people, then that's probably the way you should go. But Lolo is not even a ending to do that. It's all about Jonathan. And Ryan you made me do this. I didn't wanna do it. You're the bad person. You made me I wouldn't have betrayed you. If you didn't betray me first. And that's what I think will contribute to their their loss in the end. Like, I said, there's there's no way she can win the only way I think now they can win at this point. She's against low. Well, the only thing I want to add here is that. Yes, it looks like that. She has absolutely no chance, but I wanna upgrade that too a snowball's chance in hell because this is a crazy house that anything could happen if he's a Salah. Liberties, we just there's that we don't know. And you know, she looks like she may still have somehow longevity print, and somehow if she's there and Fennell we don't know what could happen in these next two weeks. She could potentially be there with their is. I still think that there is a a at least a decimal point chance that could happen. I agree with peace. Liberties, you never know in. My crystal ball is on the fridge. So I cannot see the future. I don't know. Exactly. What's going to happen? I'm saying right now her chances look terrible. And a really she's going to have to get very lucky, and I don't even know who the hell she needs to sit next to under what circumstances in order to pull out a victory because I really don't think the Johnsons gonna vote for her under right circumstances whatsoever. Ryan possibly could. But I think Johnson's bene- pull his leg. Yeah. Also, you saw Joey in the house acting like he wanted to work with Lolo. But then when he came out like, oh, yeah. I was just sort of agreeing with the things they were saying, so I wouldn't get anymore sites. It doesn't seem like he actually agreed with her within the house. And so if if him in Ryan, and Jonathan August together, I think the Jonathan's going to be probably controlling their to your votes. Anyway, for are the only other thing I will. In terms of that for for low lows sake. And for Natalie Marie say if who is the person Mary that you feel like has a great chance to win the game. I mean, candy looking. And candy. It's great rent. It's like war games. The only way to win this game to not play. Yeah. That's really unfortunate. And I hope that's not the case. Because in some ways, I do feel like Marissa's Jarrett. Well, no Kerr last year played much less than Ross played. And she was ultimately rewarded that she was rewarded for that? By the celebrities, and I don't want that to be hard for the course on a celebrity season. But I think we on the podcast. This morning's was comparing Dina's game versus Lola's game and saying Dina doesn't really play at all. And Lolo has some good points really bad going at this point in time Dina's way of plane is better than Lola's way of plane because her negatives just her positive so much. Do you want to say something really quickly just say those will be out there who are fans of Lolo? I'm not really trying to come for her. I'm trying to talk about it from a from a game standpoint. I do agree with those people out there who say that Tom is the cause of this really? Recused the cause of with the whole thing happen because Ricky called of creek, that's where all of this emanated from distrust between Tom and Ricky came from that conversation when Ricky had an often comment and call Tyler prick, Tom didn't like it ever since then he's not really trusted him. And he wanted to back during last week with Kato as h you stayed his hand. Finally, when he's got the power this week he wants to pull the trigger. Ultimately is not able to. But Tom did act like a crazy person when the power came up, and because of that I do think that Lolo in Natalie Marie had a reason to jumped ship. The problem was as Mary correctly points out they won't own their shit. Rob they won't own what they did. They pretend like though, you didn't do that even Ricky pretending in the house. I mean, you guys. I mean, you guys didn't see it was on the episode. But Tom winsor, hey, man, I was trying to back door like I just want you to know at once out in the open Ricky's like a really like, I I was truly you guys. Which is not the case. He is locking not the case just be open about if you own your shit. I think people respect more in the it. What are the things that was unclear from the episode that did Natalie Marie and Lola what what is sure is had they given to Tom and Kato that they were going to be using the veto. They had. I mean, they kinda showed it on the episode where they said like basically after narrowly won the veto. There was like a stalemate between the two sides. Nobody wanted to approach each other and say, Tom and Kate O didn't wanna say, hey, use it because they want to force them to they were trying to kind of hint at it. But they didn't actually ever have a conversation. And meanwhile, Natalie Marie Lolo are kind of hiding purposely not wanting to talk about it. So that they can continue. Not owning anything and say, oh, you guys didn't approach us. You're supposed to be the brains. Exactly the wrong way to play that is. That is the problem that they will not own their shit because if they're already if it's out in the open, they're fighting going to turn on them, then they should just say. Yeah. Look, we're not sorry. We're not going along with this backdoor. We didn't wanna play it. But instead they tried to play it off like we would have had you guys come in approach. They're blaming Tom Kato like all guys like we would have done it. But you guys didn't come and talk to us. We were here all day that is lame. But if you're Tom green, and you want the you want Ricky to go up on the block, I think you've got to have that conversation. I agree with that as well. Jane, they're playing good. All right. Yeah. So yeah, everybody everybody's being passive aggressive and high school where you like you have a guy or a girl, and you were dating and you of think it's over. But you really don't want to go there and talk about it. I felt like that's what was happening. You're Lizzani with this analogy of. School. Frankly, that's like from here. You know? I really think they just need to. I I don't understand like there's seven rooms in the house. How can you not go over a course of twenty four hours conversation with someone refined minutes? Hey, are you gonna use the you know, like when you were we still on board? Right. Are you comfortable with that? That's oh, you have to say Tom green, not do that. Well, I love it. Mary win Kato was all worked up, and he had he had a line, and he kept going back to it about acting school acting school. He was going to really drive this one home, and he gets into it with Lolo of I'm not bored. This. To spell it out. Kato kaylin, they wouldn't let them in pan man, if he wasn't taking the acting class, I loved it. That's the worst insult you could call someone that you're acting that your you went to acting school. What are you saying there is that have you taken an acting class because you're being an actor or? Say you're being authentic that you're you're acting like your friend, but you're not so he wants to have you taken acting class because I feel like you're acting right now badly even like Z right through it. But what's really going on is that you have totally betrayed us. And he's right Kato being totally passive aggressive. Not a good. Look. I agree that he was asking for trouble. And he got it. But then Lolo like went from zero two thousand with her reaction to that. You guys didn't even see the half of it all of that stuff. But makes Lowell really freaking terrible showing moderately terrible. Based on this edit. Well, Phil Brent fill in because I think there's a lot of people that that are sort of just casually following the show and aren't as up to speed as as you are. And let me just say Mary how many on here because it all leads together been a couple of these different blowups. But basically what's happening is Lolo? Will just exactly what Joey said in that interview. What she will go from zero two thousand and say like what's on? Why didn't do anything wrong? What are you talking about? You know, what you know, what Kato you are a piece of shit. That is what you are. She would eat repainting. I don't mean to swear. But that's what she kept saying Kato over and over again to the point where it's like you like bay starting to feel bad and like, and he she called him chauvinistic and threatening Tom and keta going behind her back going like did we do something that was chauvinistic and threatening? Like, I don't really remember doing that. You're being aggressive you're being threatening. I don't think that. She understands the difference between passive aggressive and actually aggressive. She's projecting. It's very possible. It's I mean, it's there's there's nothing weird to watch them someone's screaming at you that you are being threatening and aggressive towards them. Somehow, we barely saute mar in this episode. Brent that's right. I mean humour. Anymore? I didn't even think she was on the show. And then I saw her. They're getting ready to vote. And I thought it was another Dina lo Han without blonde wig sunglasses. She hosted the challenge to and. And she was great. Yes. She was great. She she said good TV personality. Yeah. I'm really really glad by the way. Just everybody knows. I mean because my mom is asking my mom's going to bum to find out that everybody's onto taymor that she has the power. I'm like mom. She's been really obvious about it. Like, how did they? She wanted to a big surprise. When somebody tries to nominate Samar might notice. Is good through vision necks. So it's use it or lose it situation. Through monday. And after that all bets are off and she can power. It's not a coup d'etat. She can't change the nominations. It's just that. She if she's nominated. She can come down the cloud. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we'll we'll see ultimately this such a big H O H Mary. Yeah. It is. I mean, I don't know. Are they playing right now, I'm trying to oppose the thing? Did you make it seem a little bit on at the end of the episode? Joyce said we're going to be h competition veto vote. All in one night. I'm like so are we waiting until Benza crown H O H? And if so what are we doing? I don't think that they'll do a double fiction style. I think they'll do the they'll do in the same way like the veto they pretended like, oh it's happening now, but it was a couple days ago. So it looks like the feeds are still out right now. I I suspect that they will. We'll have we'll have an H tonight, then probably nominations in the morning, and maybe even I don't think that they'll do the going to veto end. Crown new H? Also, they didn't say anything about credit h of the end of my veto live like they did last Monday night. And then I think probably likely. Yeah. I have to go back and listen to Julius actual word. But I think that's what she said. Yeah. And then I think we'll have a mid week episode. I think we have a Thursday night episode then after Monday, and then we'll have a believe it's a two hour episode coming up on next Friday. So a lot of celebrity big brother as we go along here next week. Brent I know it's been such a long time since you've been on the podcast. Is there anything else from the last week? That's that's been a burning that you need to get off your chest. The only real thing that I wanted to address because a lot of people in Twitter we're talking about and I actually asked my friends on Twitter question. What there wasn't a point in time. And I don't like how it came about. Because I felt like she was using it strategically, but Lolo talked about the fact that Kato when he was getting ready to make his nominations when he was thinking about nominate Samar that he was going to call her miss, Cleo and say, hey, I bet you didn't a you didn't see this coming a reference for those of you're not old enough to the eighties nineties TV. Psychic miss Cleo who wore the head scarf on her head and aside from being African American and the. Color of skin rather because things was making. And the fact that you were headscarf there really was no similarity between team are and miss Cleo. So I asked a lot of people in Twitter felt like it was racist. Low called it raises some house I think team are called the racist as well Lolo related this happening to March try to hold her over to her side. So I didn't like how Lola was using it. 'cause she like she was she didn't say anything to Cato at the time. She only brought it up to taymor. When she thought it was going to be useful. And to get mar- to go off. So I didn't care for that. But the actual deed itself him comparing a taymor at some his Cleo. You know, I learned something today. I just wanna tell you because I really thought it was I thought it was a reach. I really did. I thought it was a rates win. Tame are said that it was racist and insensitive to to compare her to miss, Cleo. And I really thought having fun may be may was the best comparison. But I'm one of these people that I don't want to call. I don't like to have a knee-jerk reactions everything. However, I got risk number. You know, I know right. I know crazy. But then I got a response from somebody on Twitter who told me that it really was because of her head scarf, and the fact that the headscarf has been become important in the African American community because of its relationship with a Africa. And because of that it comes off as a -fensive, and I never really looked at it from that standpoint. And after I have a read that response from somebody on Twitter. I felt like you know, what it never won. Tomorrow's offended by number two. After I read that I feel like it probably wasn't sensitive. I don't think I in fact, I know Kato is not a racist. But what he did say probably didn't have racist connotations to it and two thousand and nineteen I feel like we can do better. So I think we could do better. I think we can clearly. Sorry. Roundabout way to get to. But. I was so confused on Twitter yesterday. I started seeing miscleared gate and was like, oh, what did miss Cleo? The big brother Twitter personality do now forget the original like our original BB community was the miss Cleo. That was out the BB fourteen final five live taping and had the picture of gen city with the with the peanut butter and jelly sandwich sitting next and tweeted it out for everybody. Like, I go back that far. Yes. That's like, oh, this is something much different. Yes. Much different. So yeah, I suspect we that is not going to make it to one one of the episodes even got his, well, I wasn't this to Mary's right in h competitions going to be very exciting. But there's a lot of stuff that can happen. There's a lot of volatile personalities who could win. I'm not really sure what would happen. If came our win. Eight show at age or candy wins HOA JR. Even though they all, you know, you could say sided with the boys they weren't citing with candy in the boys because they wanted to help the boys they sighted with that side of things in the end in in pull the house that way to to keep candy because they wanted to keep candy. That's I mean, that's the long short of candy said, hey, I'm not I'm not doing this. Because the boys didn't make a deal with them. You know, just they wanna keep me because they feel like I'll be weaker for them to eat against moving down the line. So I don't have faith in many of these people in what their nominations would be other than like say Kato or Lolo or Nadal even I know what their nominations with look like everybody else who that hit Mary is that fair to say that if one if anybody from the from the payers gets it, and I guess Tom is out the outgoing. So if if Kato gets it will his his nominees are locked in. It'll be low low in that Aleve. Marie in vice versa. If not close, I think as of now, they wanna do Ricky and Lolo with gnarly Marie being the third of them to vote out one of the three of them out. But in the order of probably low Ricky and then Natalie Marie possibly the first two switched. But and that's and that's their plan right now. And that's the plan that Tom Cato have been trying to sell to DNA and candy end tar tell feats cut. But they said they wanted to talk to him about it as well. So those are the three wildcards when we have no idea what the three of them with you. I really don't have any idea. What they really don't. I mean, I can make my best guess, but it's not just that. I don't know what they would do once. They win the power people talking to them with only volatile combustible personalities in the house. I'm not even sure what would really happen then. So I'm all for this. I can't wait to see. What look I know. There's not a lot of. Or there's a lot of not great stuff happening in the house right now. But the finally we've no idea what's going to happen. That's true. Like, this is like a complete crash shoot. I am hoping that after the little talking to each house guest got from the diary room, Mary that some of the ugliness and really the bad looks from some of the celebrities will be toned down for the next seven to fourteen days, and we can get back to some good fun. Big brothers yet finale or hazard. I know I just wanted to live just once there because there have been splashes of strategy like Tom figuring out that he needed to get rid of Joey and then having to make a deal with candy and try to keep her bare of that was like strategy that was lost amongst all of this Harrap that's been happening in the house that nobody really cares about you know, we all like extra. But when it's extra all time been it's like listening to me ran for an hour. Like eventually, you just going to tune it out. It doesn't sound very good and enemy some of them. They're acknowledging it on the feeds Lolo in particular has talked a lot about why doesn't this feel fun? We watched big brother celebrity the first one in it seemed fun and lighthearted and everyone was happy. And it's just so nasty in here. I don't think she can realize that it's her who's causing a lot of that nastiness. But I mean, you kind of can't blame the show for editing out some of that stuff when they're trying to present big brother celebrity as a fun thing that other celebrities might sorry. The other celebrities might wanna do in the future as well. So, you know, they're giving the best that they can while still trying to make it seem fun question really quick from TJ. He said did they tone down evil, dick or Paul or Josh Nell? But the Honey that's a different show. That's regular big brother. This is celebrity big brother. I have no problem with diarrhea going to the celebrities independently of each other and saying, hey, can I just wanna watch it? It's getting a little bit like temperatures getting a little hot. And they'll take the hint there showbiz death, and you know, conflict in itself is not necessarily a problem. But you know, it's not just it's conflict is conflict. And we have a lot of accusations of flying around, and you know. Accusations that are very damning towards people's character outside of the house, which is a little different than you know, evil. Dick is going to dump his ice tea out on giant or know. You know, things that are fights, but not necessarily fights. And also condemning a person at the same time. I think the worst example of that was probably Tom where he was accused of being threatening and chauvinistic. And I for the life of me, I was like Ana early stay where I was like did I miss something? An episode of the show that I miss. There was really nothing. It was basically would say look in the veto ceremony. Just see that. Did you see? How red meantime looked at her during the veto ceremony? Rob. I mean, that's we're all going stupid stupid circumstantial stuff that just like you could literally paint a portrait and get whatever you want from that. I mean, it's just it's made up lunacy at this point. Okay. Let's bring in some of the questions from our wonderful audience, and we'll start with Sharon who wants to know. Do you think that Joey asked to be voted out today? Mary that a possibility. I don't think so I mean, there's potential that toward the end once the writing was on the raw while he could have said that to make himself feel better. But I think most likely would happen is the can't Dina and tame are deciding to go with Tom and Kato, and then probably the other. Three Ricky, lo lo and Natalie Burri not wanting to give Tom the ability to to make that final vote. And so just jumping on ordinance said, rob I felt like we got a little bit too much from Joey during his speech of you know, I may lose the game. But I'm the real winner. I know how you want that declare themselves the winner. Yes. Yes. I will give credit to candy that her speech had any influence over the ultimate outcome here. But she did. So, you know, hey, look, I want to be here. I love y'all home. But I feel like I need to stay. And I wanna stand how much show y'all, but I can play. I like speed. Yeah. But what I liked about. It was like a lot of people say that I'm not playing the game. But you know, if you keep me here may. Phrased it a little differently, but she's not even playing keep her. There's that. Yeah. That's Mark keep around. She's not even playing. Okay. This is a question from Tara. What was low low spraying on her face tonight in the bathroom? Can we consider this confirmation that she's bath man's sidekick? This is this is a question that Brent. Well, I don't know. We don't know what any guesses on what she spraying I listened to about fifteen minutes of conversation between low and Neville, even worry about selling. So I'm gonna go with setting spray your make a lot put setting spray on the set and forget it, and you know, I don't use setting spray. But from that conversation me and Ricky we both learned a lot about how helps if you've baked your face. How sweating also helps the setting spray? I learned a lot. I love the rob. It's like a whole tagline set it and forget it. That was the like a Ronco rotisserie cooker. Infomercials somebody asked me does tame ours laugh is does it sound like a spray bottle? And so I pulled this clip and tell me if that Brent from all your hours watching life. He's this sound like taymor laughing. I hear it. I can't I I like, yeah. If you had said that I don't I mean, if you spray that I would probably that sounds like a spray bottle, but I I can hear her laugh, and there she has sort of like, it's a very Sikado. But long. Like, I. Taymor laugh and get them side. Comparising get on that on the winner of Stein. Find out. On that. M wants to why can't the house gets going that little corner of the yards in the day, if the door's closed off, and you can't see through the wall. What's the big deal? Never understood this real why do people write to me with these questions? Right to me. I don't have one of my crash. I don't have all the answers. I don't know. Why? I mean, those things I could tell you about, but that's not one of them. What are they talking about? I think I think some of it has to do with it since they there's been a lot of construction because there's so many competitions. Thanks to turn around and the people constructing them are talking because we definitely had a couple of scenes of Tom listening in on the door trying to hear them talking about. And that's how they guest who is in the Super Bowl. So I think that yes, okay. I must have missed that part. Joey does not just have amazing skills. All right. Okay. All right. Let's say from Nintendo now that we saw the comp do you think that Tom through the POV like you said, it doesn't look like that to me? He was so close with that last kick that is too risky if you're trying to throw it. So Brent I tweeted that for bears fans watching episode of big brother, they might have immediately turned the TV off when they saw the veto competition. Is Tom said he threw the vio. I wasn't aware that that might have been lies Tom Tomasson lives. If you said he was thrown to be. Because he. Doing it. Did he join twice? I think he was once once. Okay. That was the the bears kicker. That's this is. Yeah. Yeah. Harder. You that doing hard to do that? Okay. All right. Let's see this question from Bradley. Julia say they're not gonna play h until Monday. No, you add you are going to see it on Monday. They are going to they're going to play it tonight. They're not gonna have a live H OH and then alive veto you fund whoever wrote that in. I'm glad I'm not the only done. I could be I could be wrong on this. No, you're right. You're I think I think they're just saying that's when you're gonna see it. Yeah. Okay. Let's take a question from Maureen who said who knew Joey had a great tight five about big, brother. Mary Joe Lawrence could go on the road now in maybe he could do was stand up comedy world's best. I would be more inclined to watch that than him as that, man. So would you watch Joey Lawrence do stand up or see a dog hypnotized, drew Barrymore? I actually would rather watch show Lawrence to stand up. He was actually pretty personal there at the end. He had a great sense of timing. You did you hit his drew Barrymore? Not really like what was less. Good thing that you did like Charlie's angels care. All right. Green only other Chad. Oh, yes. Yes. Chad. It's all coming full circle. Are you excited for world's best tomorrow? I just got my DVR already set up to watch that. Yes. What'd you think about Joey's amazing prediction of the Super Bowl brands of the Rams versus the patriots? Well, I mean like I wasn't. I thought here sight unseen, not knowing really what happened and how he knew that. I thought about this. That's pretty good. Like, I mean who knew being the Rams many people that are being the Rams everybody thinks patriots. But then the fact that he was heard it from Tom or the guys'll aside working must have given them a little bit of a heads up on accident. Obviously might have eaten that might have been helping them out. I mean, they were immediately called out and the feeds, and then they were told all the people working outside. We're told you cannot talk about this anymore because Tom made a great guess that. It was going to be the patriots versus the Rams immediately after listening at the door. Yup. Okay. So Joe, Joey is not the genius all knowing not genius. No. He he got. He got the information from Tom Tom got information from two couple of the stage. And we're having a conversation. Tom has like you so nosy like you also ran into that lady during the in the cross ears like when he just having open the door. And he's like Hello ranch were lady in the crawlspace this. Yeah. Great time in my nineteen years twenty years. It's been a while watching big brother since big brother two, I actually saw somebody who works behind the scenes on the life beads because Tom opened up a door going to I think the gym I wanna say. Yeah. There was some of those a couple doors on each side. That are locked nobody can get into. But that's where the production comes in and out and somebody from production was coming out of one of those doors win on opens it up, and he just ran into her and said, oh, Hello. Oh. Like, she didn't say anything. She just like looked at her. It looked at him and ran it was a great clip ascendancy. Okay. He doesn't look tack her with his eyes. Yeah. I know. Right. They'll be threatening question from Rick Natalie is copying Haley from big brother twenty Jewish. She looks amazing as always before casting your vote to Mary. Do you think that the Natalie even Marie is doing subtle shout outs to Haley from brother twenty? If if she is it's very unintentional. I think in order in order to be doing the same thing. She would need to switch up the word every night. Does. Now, leave him Marino who Haley is from big brother twenty looking at the magic signs point to know. Did they do goodbye messages during celebrity big brother one? Do we remember this? I don't think. So I don't think so either celebrities go and see everything right Mary. Yeah. I don't I don't remember them pointing on it if they did. But I have no memory of any questions. We don't know. Shannon. We've moved on that was twenty eight done with. We're done with that. Okay. All right. This was from Jack. Do you think that taymor is solely responsible for saving candy, not solely? I mean like they needed her vote. But Tom did some good work and realizing that he needed to flip the script here? Because originally Tom wanted to keep Joey because he thought Joey was on your side was able to deduce that Joey was actually not on their side their side, meaning him in Kato, and he was able to rally up Dina and Kato to say, you know, hey, this is not such a good idea to give them what they want. Because whatever they want is what we don't want. And what they want is to keep Joey. So we should want to keep candy even though candy really hasn't played the game. But to her credit. Candy candy didn't say anything stupid when they went to her. And she didn't say anything stupid anybody like taymor who went to her and Astor on a question of, you know, did you make any deals than anybody? And what will you do if you stay here because you know, one. The wrong answer Jenny one of those questions gonna blown it up and it didn't. So I was by the that. So no team doesn't get all the credit, but she does get credit for points trigger enforcing the rest of the house vote the way she wanted. Okay, helps taymor and can be have more or less made up. Yes. Look, sometimes maybe this house the big fights. But then you make up. Well, I mean like I said, it's there's eight nine people after the house eight eight people up now, and you don't get to see anybody else. And she's she sees candy every day twenty four hours day. I mean, there's only you can only be mad for so long. When you're in that close quarters with people, I feel like after that, you just he he humans can't take that sort of animosity for that link of time. So I kind of understand why she eventually got over it made up of candy. Okay. This is a question from survivor. Rules, PJ aren't a scale of one to ten hell upset is Lolo by having to buckle and vote out Joey over candy. Alley. We don't really know the circumstances here so hard to tell but probably safe to say nine or ten right? Yes. She didn't look cabbie Mary. Yeah. I that's what I'm waiting for the feet come comeback on. So we don't get some clarity on that. She didn't look happy. What she was voting out Joey in the diary room. And she was the first person to vote it was so I mean, obviously big brother didn't expect that because they have Lolo I to to bats vote, and you have to expect, but she was going to vote candy out. And then she voted to Vic Joe in. I'm like, oh, it's over. So I don't need to. Yeah. I was watching with my sister, who's a very casual viewer. And we were I was telling her on the commercial before him like, oh, it's probably going to be a close vote. Maybe Tom we'll have to break the tie because that's what we'd seen a lot of. And then after they said, okay, there have been three votes for for Joey I had to look down again because I was taking notes I was like wait a second. These weren't supposed to be votes against Joey for him. So that's when we kind of knew what was going to happen. Okay. Let's take a Bill nestling has a conspiracy theory is it possible Tae mar threaten Lolo and Natalie by saying that she had the power in order to get her way. Tonight rent the seems like quite a seems like fiction a well. The thing is you lift a liberty rules are different which I don't think they are in this case, you're not allowed to why about a power that you have. So she could say I have a power, but she couldn't say well power is something that it's not order to threaten them. And give them some of the way she wanted to look she doesn't need to do that. She didn't need their votes. In fact, I'm kinda mad that the voted the way like terror was talking on the lifebeat update that the worst of both worlds would be if team voted to keep the but been let the Lolo nettle even Marie and Ricky contingent. No that that's what she was doing. And let them get on board. Like we wanted a tie vote. We wanted a blindside and she said she was going to do. Do that. And then she didn't do it some kind of bummed about that. Yeah. It's not fun. But like she that was a good move on her funding fun like fun. Mary. Yeah. Fun five we have fun. Oh, okay. We're having fun. I love Tom. That's why. Outcomes. I feel like it balances the house a little bit more stacked question stat. That is a funny question. I'll go I'm gonna go ahead and read it it's like stacked says what is more expensive sea or land, chaps taymor and Lolo? We're fighting right before the feats cut about it. And do you think it affected tamers voting decision because she was needed, Jerry? I must have missed this. Because I did not see this at all tell me what has like a price is right question branches. Yeah. And I couldn't game. No. I think it stemmed from I don't know if they have a certain amount of money that they're allowed to spend on requesting food but Lola wanted sea bass, but someone had written in lamb chops lamb chops to expensive, and they thought Joey might have been the one to write this. And so low low is venting taymor about it. And taymor is trying to be like why does it matter about a lot of this? And of course, Lolo saying, and you're not letting me speak. You're not letting me get my point across. You're not letting me open up about my side, we need. Lamb chops. It went on for a while, though is the guy from ghost island. Yeah. But then you lost me with the lamb chop. I don't know. I don't know which is more expensive shops. Rub. I guess the seafood. Probably hell if I know. This is a stack. This is insane. I have to I'd have to see it's understand. Yeah. Hold on that we have breaking news from the chat. Kyle on periscope says that he is a butcher. Shop server here land chops are way, more expensive. Thank you. Yes. I love them shops. Yes, I'm one of these people that I will not you my lamb chops with peas because apparently like lamb chops peas are always served together. But I absolutely hate peas anytime part makes lamb like don't want Ps. No peace. Wait, lamb, chops and pieces, apparently it is. My name is Jay. And he always serves me. That's just how they're made. Like he was mad at me. When I said, I don't want these. He's like, I don't like the smell them. I've never eaten my entire life. Don't put them on my land. This sounds like it could be another argument that I've ever learned on the podcast. Brent are you concerned that the Brent haters will start serving you peas on Twitter. That's possibly like I got my heaters under control because I have given some process and people that have maligned a little bit in the past. So I feel like that everybody's everybody is like coming around a little bit. Like, I do remind them that I objected as possible when it comes to evaluating someone's gain. Even if I am subject and biased hell when it comes to them personally. Okay. All right fair fair enough. All right before such a land the plane anything else, you wanna say a related to celebrity big, brother. I think we're good enough. That's when. Get tired of patting him on the back with John and the rest of the crew in the morning mayor you're part of that you guys are doing a kick ass job getting buddy caught up a little bit the feeds on Wednesday when I'm traveling Thursday a little bit. And that was absolutely a great to be able to watch that. And listen to that. And it was really really fun, by the way, a on the on the feeds show today Taryn actually gave a language warning. Because he was trying to recount all the fights in the house. So he had to give a language warning. And I was like everybody else. I don't hear Terence swear very much. Although I have heard him swear for and so, but here's swear on a podcast was was very very. The news as it happens. If you wanna that he does a good impression of Lolo too. Reaction with another fight. We didn't get into great stuff. Have you the Tom green dancing to to her yelling production? It's no I've seen Tom green dancing. So if you edited things, but not this one that one is probably one of the best. Okay. I just don't want to talk about because people don't know what I'm talking about. So like, this is part of the fights and Lolo and Ricky or in a bedroom together and Kato wanted to apologize to Lolo. Look he said he kept saying, you know, what I really should go don't go. Now like go later. So he did later, but he still made of going when you walked in the room, Lulu, lost her mind. She was like get outta here. We don't want you here. Astle production production. Ricky get him outta here. Like, she just off nuts into the point. Where like you just want to apologize. What are you? What are you crying about? I love the bouncer. Yeah. On the list get out of here. Here. Okay. All right. Let's talk about what we've got coming up and already out on rob as a website dot com. American injure warrior verses the world in a lot of people have been wondering. Hey. That is Taryn ever going to be on a podcast. And lead a gonna talk about American injure warrior USA versus the world. And then oh, look the challenge is back is very excited. A lot of big brother crossover for the challenge. War of the worlds preview is up in our challenge hap- feed. So be on the lookout for that. I said on Twitter that I'm going to watch the challenge this time. There's so many people that I know who are going to be on the challenge. I never watched a season. I don't think I've ever even watched an episode. Well, Mary you I challenge I have ever seen the challenge or show. I know I'm kind of like that. But I'm like, I feel like I have to get this. Plus, Josh Martinez. Leonard able to nineteen is going to be on. And I'm feeling we're gonna gets new a new side of Josh. So let's be old side you're still there. But there's new sites to all right. Yeah. It's i've. If I find it so complicated of like what what's happening, rob? Apparently. This is the reason why I was on board. Because apparently there is no redemption house this time, you're out you're out. So. I like to watch it because everybody knows that. I am a rider die of Mr. paulie, California. Yes. You still crushing Ed? He's on he's going to be competing that was very fun. And I'm all about redemption house because the reason just real with you all the reason I have never watched the show before is because like you get to like episode nine and they're like twenty two people. They're like, no one's gone home. It's episode nine. And you're like this is nuts. Like reality shows where they'd get rid of people. Not where they bring them back. Maybe you might want to not want to listen to I one out, Ed. Of extinction. This point not your Cup of tea. I know right. Well, Stephen on Twitter, your friend on know, it alls said, you know, after after I looked at this Jeff talking about the the twist for survivor going. Season. No, I'm feeling better about it. I'm like, Steven stop drinking the Kool aid. Just a chance an open mind that way, you can be extra enraged when you eventually hate it. I'm like, I don't have a problem getting enraged, and I don't even know what I would look like if I was extra in rached. Oh my God. All right. First one out we have dropped all of it. Josh Wigley went to Fiji talk to everybody who's going to be competing in this brand new season of survivor. We adjust drop them all on you. So you can binge them at your own pace. You can go to rob has website com slash s thirty eight and get all of our first one out episodes. There are three in total. Plus, also, you can watch them on the robs the website YouTube channel where that the nice thing about that. Is you can watch some of the video we've got the images of the people. So when they're talking you can see who is talking. And then if you leave the video, and you come back it remembers your place. That's nice thing about being signed in on YouTube. And of course, we also did profiles going back and looking at the story so far of our four returnees. The most recent one is with Jenny autumn talking about Joey. Amazing all four are up, including the conversation that Mary, and I had earlier this week about Aubrey Barack oh the hummingbird gay. I have listened to that one yet. But obvious my friends so tries big brother celebrity. Coverage in that as well. Okay. Rob has website that comes slash s thirty eight for everything that we've got posted so far all about survivor and then tomorrow morning Taryn is going to be back. Live eleven AM the Super Bowl pre-game show kicks off so eleven AM eight AM Pacific time with guests who. Who oh what mayor cascade? You're on the show tomorrow. I was like, I don't know. Who is like who? I haven't looked at the schedule. Yeah. I'll make sure to bring up the whole peace issue. When we discussed the lamb chop by ten would be on board. He likes his life on closer to. I don't think he would like peas and lands. He doesn't like blueberries in yogurts like. Like. We've back on Monday night, February fourth to find out what happens with the h h and the veto and who is going home next. Join us on Monday night. I believe that is the first episode that we're gonna get in the nine o'clock hour eastern time. So that was going to be ten fifteen pm eastern time if my calculations are correct for Monday night's big brother, of course, got so much going on this past week. This was very fun week on the podcast between everything with celebrity big brother that we've been covering and then also with the survivor cast dropping so much going on so many hours of podcast may possible by the patrons of rob has a podcast to find out more about becoming a patron finding out all of the beneficiaries. And then also how to become part of our rubs podcast patron community. Go to rob has website accomplished patron for. More information. And we've got another podcast that we are dropping later on tonight, Robin, Akiva, need a podcast where my co co-host, Akiva Winokur. And I we spent a wheel of podcast ideas. And this week we are talking about the hap chiller, one of the most sprawling ideas that we've ever attempted where kiva Winokur has been matchmaking podcast listeners, and we are going to finally hear what happened when random podcast listeners went on dates with each other on this week's show, Robin Kifah need podcast. 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I pointed out that this MacGill's begins thing is weird. And now there's a dance to it. So there you go we're going to. Yes, I we had the round table last night. I was concerned. It was going to be a light update. We're good be careful what you wish for Karen. I mean, basically everything up until when we did the roundtable can be summarized in like three lines. So let's get to I guess basically during the day Natalie now has the veto Natalie and Lolo are stubbornly refusing to talk with Tom and Cato. They want to surprise him by not using the veto. They wanna blinds item at the veto meeting. Meanwhile, Tom and Cato are stubbornly refusing not it's an handily and Lolo they have decided that since Nola are not on board with the plan to back Ricky. They have in fact decided okay, fine. We're not going to back door Ricky. We'll take out Joey for them. That's what they want. We'll go along with it for all of Tom and Cato's craziness. They are still loyal to the women. They want to do what the women want. Up until the point where they realized that there. They've been backs to have. Yeah. Told they realize they've been had this was a fun game of chicken of both sides. There's not wanting to do the do the thing and both sides assuming they'll come to us. They need us. They'll come to us. It's a stalemate. No one gets there. No one does anything and we zoom right into the veto where neither side of talk to each other. Yeah. I compared it to you know, I feel like I do this a lot with big brother where I I compare things to a high school relationship or a middle school relationship because apparently people just act like that all the time in the checks out there just like well vein needs to come talk to me because that's what they're supposed to do. And it's their fault in the other person's thinking the exact same thing. And so both sides are thinking, okay, it's on the other person to come. They need marriage counseling. I guess I guess this is the thing that married people do too. Does it just being distant because you think they're being distant and they're being distant because it ain't you're being distant one of those things easily one conversation would unravel everything and everyone's on the same page, but that is not how high school cliques work. And that it's not how big brother alliances are working right now. It's one of those things where when it happens on his show or a movie that I'm watching. I'm just like throwing things at the screen. This is so dumb. Nobody is this immature. Okay. I guess I guess they. All right. So Natalie does not use the power of veto. She does not use it. However, she does talk to Lolo afterwards. She's like did you see the way Tom stared at me can the veto meeting. Like he was trying to threaten me. He is crazy. So much threatening going on by by Tom. He's so threatening. He's so dangerous. Tom green. He's menacing with those daggers. And it's funny because I think Thomas will says nem keeps giving me these daggers does she keeps staring at me funny. So again, we go back to the duality of the thing we started with both sides think the same of each other. But neither is going to confront each other about it. Yeah. Well, Tom is like, oh, yeah. Natalie being passive aggressive, which at least is a little more accurate to what's actually happening like they're being passive aggressive. Not active aggressive of like, I'm going to threaten you Natalie was in the veto ceremony. I guess was like said in her speech, I want to respect the wishes of the. It's like she knows. She never talked to me. And she knows this is not what I wanted that was such a passive aggressive comment. It's genius is genius. And this is exactly what Tom needs the kind of unravel. Because in the midst of both sides, not talking to one another both sides talk amongst themselves and kind of started to kind of despise the other side a little bit more here, and there Kato and Tom talk extensively about all this. And that obviously with the way Tom's mind works, it's a mile a minute and he's thinking of billion different scenarios, and he's throwing them in Cato space and caterers and oughta handle it, pork restrictor. But essentially it comes down to Tom thinking. Well, they'll come to us if they don't come to us. We're in trouble, and they didn't come to them. Are they in trouble will find out? Yeah. There's also apparently a conversation between Tom and taymor after the veto ceremony. Where he was like see. See you thought I was good do something. But I didn't do anything. See? How'd your back? You thought I was going to be sneaky. Obviously K mart sells this and then goes into the next room to Natalie and just complaints about this. You think you could have done something to me? What's who are you? The team are getting the power of the publicist and being in this position right now, there's only maintain are more comfortable to feel the way she feels and wish she speaks with other people. Yes. And it's it's again, very obvious to everyone at this point based on the way, always acting. So Ricky is going to join Tom and Kate hope finally going to start to bridge the gap between the two groups rookies like what happened. I thought we were going to do something with veto. This was a perfect opportunity to flush tamers power. And I don't understand what happened. Why didn't we do anything in? We'll if the women never talked to me, he's like, well, the women say that you didn't talk to them. Tom's like, well what I wanted to respect her power. And he's I know Tom, you're the boss you need to go talk to her. This was brilliant. You know, how you've been talking about Alaska days Teheran about how the show should do it where there's a split screen and thing. This. We got the split screen on quad Cam at around four fifty big brother time yesterday where rookies talking to the girls, and he's like, okay, I'm gonna go into the other room and talk to them and try and light plant these seeds. And then exactly what you reenacted right now it goes on. And he's just like you were the boss of you should have done. This was the perfect opportunity. I want candy out and they're like, yeah. But I think the girls want. Julia, we should maybe we should all talk about this. And then of course, within a matter of minutes as this is being brought up here come Natalie in Lolo into the room and Tomsic, oh, we were talking about doing a meeting. And they send Julie, and Tom is brilliant because we've talked about how meta he is. He's okay, we should trickle should trickle into the room. It's the editors would want that. It's good which to speak more on him being this kind of like editor fancy guy. I love when he's talking to Kato. And he's like all right in conclusion editors and then just continues as if that's the cut they're going to use. Now, he's really loving himself. This top, you know, and honestly, I feel like on a normal season where they're editing the show properly that would actually be pretty good for them. But if they're not using any of this ever, so. Ceaseless? But yes, so. Tom they want they want Tom wants to a meeting tap. And it's it's the final hash tag team fund meeting. They're ever going to have. And they all get together. And they they basically just making excuses for why they weren't a little oh, I was sick. I was sick. And now he's like, oh, yeah. The veto who ceremony happened so much earlier than I thought it was going to happen. So then what what is shame. That was. And Tom is like, oh, yeah. I just wanted to you know, I didn't want to be pushy or anything and they're like just like, yeah. We're all definitely believing are excuses. This split screen again worked wonders here the trickle effect so Tom and Kato go upstairs and the other three hold back. And they start talking about Ricky's. Let them let go upstairs like planning their stuff out. And then okay, you Lolo play up that you've been sick Natalie. Like, he's like, he's directing them. Then Tom's upstairs. Okay. So for this meeting, and he's going off there. They all come upstairs, and they're all doing this up. And no one's buying anything. The other person saying everyone sees them to charade. But they're playing on it was brilliant. Because while there were upstairs waiting for these three, Tom and Cato talk about how Ricky was acting, and that was not that acting. Oh, I trust. I trust that you would do what are you talking about? So Ricky's acting not sold Natalie's acting not. So it was just a bad acting from these celebrities. Yes, they and they start talking about we we just need to communicate better. As problem. We commune. Location from which true. But they have no interest in solving it. Find the solution. And you're like God. We don't need this though. I don't wanna do it. I just know what it is. That's good enough. Yeah. Natalie Tom, you just you've changed the plan so many times just confusing. Okay. We need. We just need to communicate better. So all right. And then they talked about like, you know. So we were thinking that you know, maybe we would keep Joey around in Thomas caterer like Joey play yesterday real all about Joey leaving you want. Joe to say candies been talking about us. If you told us the candy was dogmatise. So we can't it needs to go. I mean, that's that's the thing. Right. Like, Malaysia working with or anything. I mean, he's got nobody Joey has no allies. I mean, that's he's he's so he's he no so non-threatening in this game and whatnot working with a single person in this house. So we should probably keep him around. Right guys. Right. So good so good because the beauty of being in an alliance. That's a little bit disconnected. Like, this is your side wants to do with thing. And you want your side the other side to follow through then they follow through. And then you take a step back. And you're like, wait. Why are they following? But because there's such a disconnected alliance. It makes sense because the doubts were correct. They are right in thinking something's fishy now, but it's just a hot mess deceit. I can't recall the last time I've seen an alliance that should be communicating effectively and just going through this game like a hot knife when butter, but because of this like weird weird few they have amongst each other. They're making mistakes. But then the mistakes are correct. So it's just it's been about. As so. Tom and Cato after the meeting ends, they're like. Wow. They were lying to us that whole time. Terrible. I can't believe they just we're lying to us like that. And we are screwed. We're being lied to. It's everyone is against us. We need to we need to keep Joey we need to we need to just let them keep Joey. If they want to keep Joey we've got Joe, wait. Do we have Joe why do they want to keep Joey hold on? What if Joey is already working with them? He is. That's not good. We need to figure this out. We need to talk. Joey we love Joey. He we love him. If we talk. He's such great energy. If we talked to him like that'll just come through, right? He'll he'll sense that. And we'll we'll cue able to work together. Joey is the best we should keep him. And that's we should go. Talk to Joey Joey is men. Number one. Joe is the power rankings. That's who everyone wants to be buddies with all of a sudden, and my favorite thing in this whole thing is if someone was to call in Tom green. Hey, Tom green. So what do you think the best move forward? Now is oh I'm gonna go for verbally blown up the alliance if you don't meeting I should go verbally blow it up right now. Publicly end it right. I mean this the right call. Pint pots and pans, right? That's that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. That's maybe seen both times. I saw someone do that. They ended up winning the season. So I feel like large move. Yeah. Meanwhile, Natalie Ricky and Lolo are like. They went through their roles. All right. Everything's still set though. We're saving Joey going after Tom and Kato. We're all good. Oh, and taymor. Definitely has the power, right? Yeah. Definitely. This goes back to the fact that she can't hide it. Well, and they've seen brew. But enough people have enough speculation going that. Yeah. That seems to be the case. So it's our tame army. Good pertain, Marcus. She going to be safe. No matter what. But at this point. It's figured out. And it'll be interesting. If she starts getting tries to hide it more and more that might be the problem for her. Yes. Tom and cater talk, some more. As again, they talk, and let's go much. So which is really their downfall. Because again, it's like, they just talk so much about their ideas. And they're also opened with their alliance members that they through so many ideas at the women that the women were just like, screw your ideas. We're just gonna go somewhere else. Yeah. So Kato is getting the sense. He's like, I'm I'm worried that Joey's with the women. Wiles. Would they want to save him right now? He's talked to them. I feel like this is not good everyone is against us. And Dina we need to get Joey on our side. Oh, and yeah. Candy. We can get canyon or side to right. What if we get both of them on our side? That'd be wonderful. If we got to people who are on the blog post. We don't want our side because then it will totally work out. They think the power is going to be used on Saturday, and they're still going to be able to back door somebody potentially. And they think that that person might be low at this point yet the sadly for them. They don't realize that this isn't a halting heck's. This isn't a coup d'etat that none of that's going to go down with their idea of like if we put eggs in both baskets, at least one of the basket still going to be here that makes sense. I guess, but yet it's like starting the morning when they were talking about their whole plan of like, we're not going to talk to the girls. I've sat down on watch that. And I didn't realize twenty-five minutes have gone by. And I had gotten nothing out of this. Sation because of how much each to talk the sheer volume of conversation is so much that they keep going in roundabouts. And then eventually they'll find an exit to a new idea but back down to the main idea, so it's a bit of a hot mess. I'm not gonna lie to you. So then Tom decides to party, I've I've got cheese of wine, though, I've got a walkman let's have party guys all parties start with a good walkman that much. Yes. A good time. And he requests wine as well. Go with the more wine with more cheese. Yes. In the wine is a very important component to this story. It is. Checkoffs wine here. So just be aware. There's wine, and there's also Dina Lohan, it's another part of the story. All right. So they have a party. It's it's fine that they have some fun to talk about game of thrones. They actually they enjoy the party. They have they have a fun time. Yeah. No, everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves some of the conflict because obviously all of this hectic talk kind of winds down. What's it called candy asks Lolo questions about her choices with her abstinence? So that's the thing that happens. The talk about that they talk about real housewives game of thrones conversations kind of mellow out. And everyone's having a good time and then the wind. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Because I I saw like everyone was like all this party. Like everyone watching on like commenting on Twitter, and this party is the worst party ever. It's so awkward and weird. And then afterward all of the people who are involved with. That was fun. We enjoyed. They were good with it. Yeah. Disconnect. Yeah. No, my favorite part would have been when the party finishes and Ricky's a good time. I still want his ass out though, referring to Tom. Yeah. So like nothing really changes alternately except for everyone has a bit of fun in the middle. Yes. Well late in the day. Yeah. Yeah. So after the party Dina has had some wine, and if you watched the cast preview that I did with rob. He played the Dr Phil segment. Dina and alcohol together is not good. Not good. Kato on his on his trip of like everyone's against us in Dina. He goes to deny and he's like Dina you can't trust anyone except for me, and Tom and she's like what? Deana by the way is like oh taymor has the power. It's obvious can read it on. You know, it's you know, it's obvious when Dina Lohan call. So Cato tells Dina don't trust anyone. Okay. She's that that upsets her in her in her kind of drunk state, and she's going to go to Ricky, which is the last person that cater wanted her to go talk to. But meanwhile, Tom is going to grab Joey. He's going to have his talk, Joey he's going to lay everything out to joy, look, Joey. Here's here's what happened. I never even wanted Ryan out. I wanted to go and get Ricky out last week. But the women didn't want that to happen. So this week my plan was to to use the veto to take you off the block and back door, Ricky, and guess what? Women betrayed me, they double crossed us. We were in an lines with them. But they clearly have a thing with Ricky. And so they didn't use the veto. Now, you're not off the block. I can't go against Ricky. It's all. I'm sorry. I I wanted to work with you. But this is this is what's happening, and Joey Joey is I was I was very curious to know how Joey would handle this. Because Joyce whole thing is like, hey, dude. I'm not about the lying in the deceit. I'm just I'm just here. I'm just a guy doing thing, you know, for my girls, and I don't want to get my hands dirty. So I was very curious to know like will Joey just kind of be very upfront about like sorry man of already men lions like because he's so honest, but no because Joey has the perfect deflections system. He is he's wonderful shields. All he needs to do is just be Joey. So Joey is just being like. Yeah. Man. I hear what you're saying. I'm just a guy in here. And if I if I leave I get to go watch the Super Bowl, my girls, and it's like, yeah. So cool. And and so Thomas hearing this and he's like, yes, it's working and Joey is not even lying. Deflecting with his Joey nece. Yeah. What's amazing? Is that we've seen Joey do this before this last week when he was talking about life, whatever life has in store for us. It's fate like this will just happen, and this translate well because Tom thinks he's taking everything in hook line, and sinker. Which obviously is not the case because Joey is low key doing other things in this house, and it just again men who in back to the fact that your your grand plan to end team fun. Hashtag fun is to befriend the two people on the block who can't vote this week. And one of them's going home. I love Tom Tom's been my favorite from the beginning. But these these some of these things he does manage don't make no sense. Yeah. I see him all Lucas in the chat says he's back, man. Batman, a great winter of side. So back, man. Yes, Batman, it's he's he in this conversation to he's like. I I want to hear you out too. But I thought shower time soon, so it's like. That we make this up. Our time is important. Specific. Yeah. So then we get Cato Cato comes and he starts to talk to them a little bit. But he's he's very concerned Cato is like I just told Dina to not say anything to anyone and now she's crying with Ricky like what's happening. No, no. This is all going wrong. I don't know. What to do we need to I need to go get Dina so kid who goes and he grabs Dina he's like to come on. I just told you not to just anyone you're going into you're talking to Ricky. What's what's what's happening and Dina's like what's going on? You're freaking me out is what's going on. What is going on with you? Why don't you? Tell me anything in catos. Like, I can't tell you right now. I can't trust you to not say anything, John promise. I'll tell you later. But not right now. I can't you're going and talking to people. She's like ju urine lines with people. You're not telling me anything, you think I'm stupid. I'm not stupid. You're trying to work with those girls. They betrayed Jonathan. Do. You think they were not going to betray you to their portrayers their backstabbers? You can't trust them and kills. Stop stop. I can't do this right now, you're going to sell everything to everyone. Kato you dummy rule. One one do not spill truth bombs to someone who doesn't have a filter at the moment. And what does he do? He just opened the tube a little bit. He just let a little bit to face come out. And now we can't put it back in obviously, you can't fault. This converse interest is p her emotions are running high. She's feeling doubtful on everything and you went upstairs, then lifter alone. Others you she's gonna wanna talk to somebody about what she just heard. And it's just the damage control wasn't good either. Because again, catos jumpy and fidgety and the way he talks really translating. You know, who seems like they would be talking re does a really good job communicating with drunk people Ricky with his very calm demeanor. And he talks to you as if you're the smartest being in the world like there's respect there. But when you're talking to someone who's drunk like they're being immature or they can't handle it or they're being stupid. What does the drunk person do turn around and get super defense on not drunk? What are you? Trying to say that mentality translates here. And obviously, none of what kid who was doing. It's working oracle job or something else that I noticed in this conversation that stuck out to me is that we've been talking about how low low in particular, but also Natalie to some extent have been doing some poor jury management and that their betrayal of Jonathan. And the beginning was really the way that they went about it the way that they've defended it is really going to hurt them in the end. And I think that the way that Dina talks about it without even even what without even being with Jonathan. She clearly sees it from that same point of view. And I'm really starting to be like these women are in trouble the way that Dina talks about them. They're backstabbers they they betrayed Jonathan. Obviously, they're gonna betray you Tom and Kato what are you thinking working with them? You know, I think that if those two if either of those women are against almost anyone else in the house. I mean, if you think about it, you got Ryan Jonathan Dina, and Joey I think all four of them are voting the same way. And that's four of nine votes. And there are plenty of other voters who are going to be willing to easily vote against them, including Tom Cato who have been bashed by them nonstop at this point. So I really like they'd better hope there in the final two together at least Natalie better hope through in the final two together. I think Natalie's odds are better than Lola Lola's just sinking well, really low low with the equity she has moving forward, and it all comes down to the fact that on like go. Okay. So the one thing we did find out yesterday definitively is they got to DVD's two seasons of being sequestered. And they were celebrity big brother, not a sharp, anybody and BB twenty. But I guess like what they're not really realizing is, hey, this is a different set. The judiciary is going to see everything hypothetically speaking. So that's why Natalie kind of does fare better because you have mentioned that obviously she's not really in the edited show as. Much. That's all they're looking at she'll get a bit of a by. But Lola will not and the fact that they're feeling this way, leaving the house isn't going to help that any further either. So this is not a good. Look, I don't know if they can really flip it around at this point. It does seem like what little bit of good communication or good relations. They had right now are burnt and any new ones that are making once they see how they've been playing and talking about people not going to be a good look for them at the end. Yeah. Because again the way that Natalie and lo-lower talking about depart they way they talk about the departure from Jonathan and Ryan they betrayed us. We had to it's not our fault. We didn't do anything to precipitate situation. Not at all. It's we are completely innocent. We tried so hard to be loyal to them. And they just betrayed us. We had to vote them out. And then it's it's again, it's a pretty similar thing with Tom or Tom and Kato again, they want to work with Lolo Natalie. They're genuinely loyal to those two. They are crazy in how? They're playing the game. And they're throwing a million scenarios out, and they don't like Ricky, but they were very loyal to low low and Natalie who are now Tom and Keno just forced us to betray them. I don't I don't want to do. It's not our fault. We tried so hard to be loyal to Tom and Cato, but we just have to go against them. And really every time Ricky's the crux of this. So I really feel like Ricky is going to get the sort of strategic credit where they get the sort of like defending a betrayal. And it's really Ricky was the one making the moves kind of thing. I think they're in some trouble here. I think the fact that they end up seeming like they try and justify their actions in every way, but you know, blaming themselves where saying I wanted to do that definitely doesn't help their case out all and we've seen this be a very big part of Lola's personality where she said, well, joy didn't wanna make that alliance with me. And literally Joey was just in a conversation. He said, I don't really believe in alliance has never got a proposal directly. And we've seen her like dropout of some we heard that on the competition yesterday. Lolo kind of like my asthma was kicking in. So it does seem like Lola's the type of person to make a lot of excuses and is defensive of me. No, I wouldn't do that. Like, I talked about the seasons that they got and the she was talking about I want to say she was talking about the Caitlyn boot like how Caitlyn had the opportunity to the puzzle. And then Tom says, oh, why are you guys have watched a lot of seasons? And she got really defensive about that. It's a Thompson. Interesting. You watch three seasons the other day. So why are you get? On me for watching the DVD's and the hotel room. So these little outbursts connected with the fact that it's anybody, but me because I didn't do anything. It's not my fault is not going to help her from the end of the game. Yeah. I really feel like the worst thing you can do when it comes to Jerry management is to try to justify your actions on a personal level. I think that if you like it because and that's your instinct as as a human being, especially if you're an immature human being is to be like nothing is my fault. It's always somebody else's fault or the situations fault. I it's not my fault that I made this emotional decision. But that is the worst thing you can do that Garner's no respect, and it makes it comes off as defensive and it makes the other people defensive if you can instead be like, look emotions aside. This is what I had to do strategically, and you can say that convincingly. That's the way to go. But Natalie and low low are all about the justification of their actions. As opposed to like, they think that because they betrayed Tom. They need to justify it emotionally. So that they feel no guilt. And if they feel no guilt that nobody can blame them. But it's the opposite the more. They try to justify it to themselves. The more people are going to blame them. So that's that's what you gotta do. Yeah. No, very well put man on. Honestly, why if we're talking about this trio making it to the final Bree? Or if it's an area where any three of them can make the final two Ricky does seem like he's in the driver's see right now. And that's because again, Ricky also is perception in the house com, kind of sly some people obviously Thomas onto him pumping row sneaky and everything. So that's all good for him. But Lola with the outburst, and then with this kind of justification methods that she asked going on Natalie kind of for me ends up in the middle of. I don't know if these did impair up in the beginning of this is how their fates would have been if this is how they would've played it out. But just not owning up the things that I'm blaming other people when other people didn't do anything wilt bother the people you are. Accusing so that that will come back by. Yes. So. Back to the Cato Dina conversation Kato is like I can't trust you Candians of joining this whole. Bockel? And gets into it with Dina candy is still mad Edina for voting to a Victor in the first week. I I mean, I knew candy was upset about the I knew DNA said that she was upset about that. I didn't realize that she was actually still this genuinely upset about it. She's like really mad at Dina for voting to Victor in that first week and Dina's like will you just voted for? You is just what they wanted to make it even Jonathan Davies my girl in this show. I didn't vote. What's what what to do and candy? If like, why are you expecting to still like wanna work without you were my girl, and then you voted me out. And she's like, well, what did what did you expect that what to do? I don't know what to do. And it's very very sloppy conversation here, very sloppy. And as they're facing off pocking Kato sitting to the side looking directly at them. But also kind of like doing that thing if I don't look at her. She can't see me don't engage. I'm not a part of this and candy baked price. The rope. I mean, this isn't even with me like, I'm not even a part of this. Can I change the subject? Oh, no. You're guys still yelling at each other. He's just taking the heat just standing there watching this unravel. This was very increase if to some us. To some us. And when does finally get involve t- gets involved. He like he's at the end of his rope. He just loses his mind, just let me speak for seconds. Oh my God. Yep. Cato, Cato definitely loses school say Kato. I wrote a lot on the roundtable summary last night that taymor got mad today. I wrote Cato gunman. Yeah. Kato couldn't handle it. And he obviously goes crazy. This was fun to watch. Obviously it was very hard to decipher what the hell was going on. But this was around eleven thirty last night in the house. And it's still wasn't really the last piece of conversation. That went on that last night last night was all the reason I said the middle of the day earlier Teheran was because honestly the later half of the night was like half a day on its own nuts really was so Natalie Lolo taymor, candy and Dina are all together. After this whole thing takes place taymor is going off Kato is a piece shit for how he treats you. Big bash session on Tom and Kato. They're abusive. They're terrible. They're crazy in. Meanwhile, Kato is like trying to listen. Yeah. This is why this season it's been a fun time. I don't remember who mentioned in which of the podcast might have been rob was telling someone if you're if you're into this for the strategy probably not the season for you. But if you're in this drama and hot mess fun. This is it and that's the season been delivering that states in spades. And yet Ricky is involved in this Ricky talking about how you know, the the only kind of love she's getting his in an abusive relationship, and like she's stuck she's trapped. It's wrong for them to do this to her. So obviously, the villain ising of Kato is in full affect here and open until this point. It's been more of a let's Vilnai's, Tom. But now the pair being Vilnai's together is honestly just like the target is plainly read on them. Now, I would be shocked if one or two of them aren't on the block, no matter who wins next week. Rickie is gonna later make a comment that is basically like I think Kato's the one pulling the strings like Kato is starting to become a bigger target than Tom which I all on board for because if Tom survives and then wins and other h free, and I have some more fun. But but yeah, there is like it's fun. There's a bit too much of the really big bad words being thrown around bullying abusive threatening. Like, let's let's just chill with the verbiage a little bit. You know with your playing big, brother. We're just those are serious terms for serious situations. It's not that deep. I mean, I would hate the time travel back to nineteen where a lot of these words were being brought around then too. But like this is so beneath all of that like, this is just not that D again and the way they're doing this, obviously, they have an objective in place. And it's the make sure that these two are Vilnai's to the fullest extent. And now Kato's kinda rising the ranks on being the bigger target, and they're effectively doing that with what they're saying. But the point is. Will be saying you could have easily done this by just calling them crazy and expanding on how they are. And not really the way of how they are being. Kamikazes throat punching too. Yeah. That was another one. A lot of that. So. Afterwards, Lolo Natalie and KMart and Ricky are talking this is minus candy Indiana at this point Lolo is wondering like what does Joey doing all of this is Joey still with us and Ricky vouches for like Joe is good. He's still thinks they're crazy. He's still on our side. This is when he says, I think Kato's pulling the strings so plan is still get candy gone, then everyone's against Tom and Katie we put them both up on the block next week. Yeah. Which Tom I just I'm with you. I want Tom to survive on Tom did say thing that terrified me yesterday when he was talking to Cato, which was let them put me on the block. I'll just win the veto and get off my. Please don't think like that though the minute you just decide to lean it on like winning calms. You know, it's not a good time. But obviously, this was all good news for the Tom fans out there that Kato looks like he's going to be the bigger targets. And I do think if they're in a position where they're both on the block. I know that they've seen Thomas this like manic crazy player, but I think Kato will unravel even more if you walk so that'll be fun to watch either. Which way? Yeah. And I think it's actually fair that Kato be the bigger target here. He has the stronger connection to Dina. So he is kind of the glue that keeps Tom and Dina together. He also I think is potentially more of an game threat, although his behavior last night was certainly not very great for him. And now, he's annoying people. Just as much if not more than Tom Tom has fewer connections. He has one to they both went to competitions. But one of. Them was a crap shoot on Thomson. So I do think Kato is actually the bigger threat. Yeah. Then I mean, the if you would say which of the competition seem like the bigger feet. It would have been the endurance which Kate will want, you know. So definitely if anything that one holds way more valuation than the crapshoot or even the haunted house wanted the slaughterhouse. What so yeah, it makes sense. So. Then we get Tom Kato in Dina. This is this is great. So Tom and Cato explained to Gina. Look you need to vote to keep Joey we need to keep Joey you can't tell them though. The can't tell the other side that we're keeping Joey because we don't want them to know that we wanna keep Joey because he's on our side secretly. And so we need to just pretend that we're not gonna keep Joey. But then we are going to keep Joey. And that's that's what we want. We need Joey India's like are. We sure about Joey. Because he talks to the women a lot and they're like, no trust us. We've got Joey meanwhile, Joe is talking to Natalie Lolo entail, mar. And he's like, so I'm definitely with you guys. Here's everything that Tom and Kato told me like. Again, you know, it's bad when drunk low hand can tell what's going on. And as a better read than you too. And. God, it's so messy, man. It's so messy. They goose is cooked. Right. I mean at this point they want to save Joey Joe is going to get saved. They're going to think that something to do with it. They had nothing to do. So. Yeah. It's it's strange to say here, but Joey may have pulled off the mini, Johnny. Johnny had to do it with three different sides Joey doing it with two. But basically what he's done is that he's convinced two separate entities that he's with both of them into. They're both trying to hide the fact that he's with both of them and they're both working to save him separately. Because they both think he's going to be with them. When when they save him. He obviously this was not is not what the same amount of pre planning. And and you know, savviness as Johnny did on big brother Canada. But also his was much more difficult. It was later in the game use a much bigger threat, and there were three three different sides. However, he did it. It's the mini, Johnny. It's the mini Johnny without the finesse and the game sap. Yeah. But it still applies nonetheless. I mean, the thing is the big question is is doing it on purpose. Probably not. But it's very easy to do. One of the situations. Brought to him you know, they've set everything up all needs to do is kick the ball in a straight line. And he can do that at least. So that's good enough yet. He's definitely going to be in the middle imbalanced this way right now. So yeah, I mean in terms of like strategic like pre planning I don't think this was like his plan to stay this week. However, he did set all of this emotion he'd convinced Tom and Kato. That he didn't have the power and that he was willing to work with them. And he got them to really like him in the first place. He then worked on the women and got them to like him after they were really wanting him out completely flipped them around and convince them that he wanted to work with them, really when they should be keeping candy because candy is much less threatening than Joey all around and also doesn't like Tom and Cato very much. And so he convinced them, then he was able to keep everything under wraps without even lying to Tom and convinced Tom that even after everything went down. He's still with them with him without even giving him any real concrete promises. So enjoys own way. It's it's been pretty effective. Yeah. Yeah. And truly the underdog rises from the ashes after his two friends gone. And we're seeing we're seeing go down. Now, like, I know that it's been talked about this past week, but Joey does sandwich to win this thing. If he continues this way and just makes it through the cracks. Yes. Really true. We're also going to get a pretty great scene. You know, one of those things that you hope is going to be on the episode, but they've got so much to show DNA is talking with Tom and Cato in the H, and they see they noticed that Ricky is heading up to to the workout room and Dina's, oh, I've had to go and she just runs out the door and she runs over to the workout room before Ricky can get up the stairs. And she gets into the worker, and she starts going on the elliptical. She's wearing a pink cowboy hat, and like suit outfit, and it's one thirty in the morning and she's drunk and she's like and then Ricky comes in. She's like, oh, yeah. I've been doing this for twenty minutes. If there's one thing I can assure you turn this is making it on this show. Everything else we discussed today will most likely be swept under the rug or ignored due to time constraints. This has to be on the show, otherwise we're not watching the big brother that we have learned to love. Yeah. Yeah. She's just she's just like, I told you. I was going to work out. I told you are you, okay? All right. Feur insanity. And I I love the confidence that she thinks. I just love that wrenching goes downstairs, and he retails like going stairs like salted door closed the gym. And I go in there and. Dina's dislike. Yeah, I've been here for twenty minutes. I saw the torch close clearly I just came up here. And then Tom was like go in the gym. She's like she's like drunk like one thirty in the morning. Where cowboy hat full cowboy hat ITAR. Yeah. So good. All right. Anything else? We should talk about here. Yeah. Not really, I guess my biggest intrigue is who's going to get the credit for Joey stay on the show. Right. Is there so many people that could be stakeholders here that have done at least something where they think they've gotten it. So I would be intrigued to see who gets it. Obviously, the logical would be like if Joey guests this credit because he is the underdog he is coming out of the ashes like we. I think we saw more of them on the last episode than we had the entire season which makes sense given that he's now the lone wolf so probably going to go in that direction. There was just a lot of fun convert mini conversations that were going this yesterday and to your point about the credit, you know, in big brother, Canada this. This has been kind of like a mini big brother candidate season with the editing has not been super great. So according to big, brother, Canada logic. It would probably be like like candy would get the credit for saving Joey something along the lines. Right. I save you. And I face myself. That's what big brother Candido do. Or maybe like Lola. Oh lick Lolo gets credit on. Place your bets it'll be fun to watch and see who get ends up getting really getting it. Yes. The Chad is what it is. This has made the rounds here. It appears that Deena has been catfish fish. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So I this was one thing I forgot to bring up and this was a great conversation to watch. Because so she's describing this person that she's known for like many years lives in San Francisco, and the best part of it is that she's explaining this team are in candy who were clearly knocked going to just let her Hafer store. They're gonna poke all the holes in it. Like, oh, you're getting catfish girl, you're getting catfish. No, no, no. It's just the thing that before like, it wasn't a thing. I was considering. And then I came like when did you come came here to work like no that doesn't mean anything you could have seen them? So or. Yeah. Like she's been talking about this person like on the feeds, and it hasn't been until now than any of his like sort of realized like, oh, wait a minute. You've never seen this person. Deana? And it's like this is apparently been going on for like five years and she's never seen their face. Is like. Yeah. In this day and age to with FaceTime, and Skype in hang out and Snapchat, sending a little video Instagram live like you're bound to see something, and you don't it's a hot mess, but a bit conspiracy theory that we can put out there in the world is Lindsay Lohan now has her own beach club named show on MTV, maybe Dina low hens going to revive hat fish. He the next catfish star who knows such a Darlie like this poor woman like Lindsey, what do you like you're letting five years, and you've never caught onto this. You've never out. She was your mama's you're now you need to manage her like, please fix help. You something. We also got a scene with with taymor. And in candy. They had a sort of a like a little makeup session, not not like putting makeup on. But like making up their relationship. And the it was a pretty sweet moment, you know. It would be more. Sweet. If I was confident that that this wouldn't escalate in into more arguments in the future at some point. I'm sure, but but it's nice for now. It's much for now. And it's one of those things where it's like they've got a day and about two days to go. If they cannot change anything the next two days they've made up they've made up because she leaves an it's over. But if she stays guaranteed, they're going to, you know, this is going to get reversed again, and there's going to be argument. So maybe for their relationship. We should hope candies, Robin. The chat says, it's Ozzy. I think he's saying that the catfish Ozzy. Off these trying to get back in that be like he was waiting. It was like a long conference I'm gonna wait until Lindsey gets back up into infamy. And then I'm going to pull the trigger on this cat. So we'll be on the lookout once CB ends up finish it. We'll see what happens on the Andina and Lindsey now that's a love triangle that MTV's should make a show about. Yeah. All right. I think that's all we've got for you today. I hope you enjoyed this live feed update. 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CBB2 | Sunday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 27

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CBB2 | Sunday Morning Live Feeds Update Jan 27

"Every morning Terry on drums. Yes. Insanity. Sees you know, the reason you. Ross said that he could do to Morrow he will do again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for January twenty seventh. I'm during Armstrong and with me today is Leah hiding leader. And so good, it may appear that I'm back as an bitter. But I have heard that one of your feet you with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of greed to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach. Learn more wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments is three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance has a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgages, the division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS three nine nine hundred one update is is simply twist. Update schedule. You thought leader was here to update you. But actually, she was never really updated all along. We just needed the headlines of leader is going to. Off things, and then I just exit out of this tariff by himself. Yeah. But but before you do that you give us a challenge to complete. Yes. The leader update where everybody has to update wearing cat ears and doing their impression of me. And I heard you off to Switzerland. That's true. Oh, yes. I say all of that on Instagram. Everybody thought I went to Switzerland last year, but I was really going this year. Well, we are here to the everything that happened on the live feeds yesterday and there was quite an outage yesterday. So you have to be a little bit, you know, prepared for that. However, there's still a decent amount update here. So the the feeds were down for most of the day nine hours for no particular good reason, there were some crazy rumors about as well, but we'll get into it. All we started the day with Lolo and taymor. And I guess unsurprisingly Tae mar was pretty upset about what had happened the night before. Which is that low low Natalie and Ricky stay up really late together. Just chatting mostly about damar and how they could handle her. And the potential that she might get nominated by Kato. And so was asking what was that about? Where were you guys talking about? I feel kind of left out. I feel like not happy about this. And Lolo was just like, I don't know. Maybe it was too early in the morning for her. But Lola was just not having it. No. I mean this so quickly on both of their parts because Lolo is talking about how DNA is just upset that that she was left out of the Jonathan vote and KMart as like, well, she's lying because she did know about the Jonathan vote and Lillard just starts the sentence. Like, well, if she is lying and bars like us, lying, and they start just like yelling at each other expected for these Timour dislike. Don't ever get into an argument about whether or not somebody is lying because she is very convinced about her ideas of line. But also like in her defense Lolo is no insomnia section either Lolo just loses. It just like, she's maybe maybe it's the stress of trying to handle tame taymor for this long. But I mean, we've seen her lose it with Tamar before these two together is just not a great combination. And so basically what happens is that? Taymor one point just as all right? If I if I'm hearing anymore this if if you call me anything again, if you call me any names again, then I'm going to start yanking. Yeah. The b word is specifically mentioned she's kind of dairy her to call him. It'd be word. Yes. And so low low says yanking, then do it and Tim are says then say it and Lolo says, then do it. To says. Parable sitcom. Just rinse and repeat for a little while. Right. And meanwhile, seeds are cutting between these scenes and you're coming back. There's still screaming at each other. It's like just a chaotic morning, friends taymor and Lolo. So that's what's happening with jamar the feeds cut then. But before they do that. There was a conversation with Tom and Kato where they kind of confirmed the plan is to nominate DNA entail. Mar. And Tom Tom also make sure to mention, hey, let's make sure we're not looking like we're trying to protect Ryan because we don't want the women to turn on us by making them think that we're working with Ryan and the like Bercy currently trying to get one over on them or anything. So let's let's try to be clear about that. So that's happening with the feeds cut after this big argument with Lolo and tame our and then they're down for nine hours. And there were some rumors that Lola was adjusted from the game for physical contacts with tame mar. Nobody should have believed these rumors they came from somebody. I think who is spread false rumors before and yet multiple news outlets posted. This is basically facts TMZ talking about this. I don't know if DMZ I'm sure they were, but I was all over that survivor proposal. Finale this year. So I trust them implicitly. I saw. Hamster watch post like a screen shot of their Google search results for big brother celebrity news, and this was like long after the feeds were back and Lolo was still in the house. And there were the three top articles were all Lolo ejected from the big brother celebrity house for physical violence. Well, at least they had a question, Mark. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm I'm sure I'm sure that all of them. They're going to delete the articles and post retractions and say, hey, we're sorry. We got it wrong. Just so, you know, there was no physical violence. Lolo? Did not do anything. I'm sure I'm sure they're all going to do that. Yeah. There's going to be a tiny correction in tiny print at the bottom. But says update JK, and that's responsible. I'd honestly be surprised if they even went. Big legal. They have to, but I can say don't know. Here's the here's literally the screen shot. Hamster watch posted Google Lolo Jones top stories celebrity big brother fans, speculate Lolo Jones, kicked off following fight. With dot dot dot was Lolo Jones, kicked off CBS after fight with Tamar celebrity brothers spoilers Jones, reportedly booted after physical altercation. I mean, the really covering their basis. I'm sure that eight fan has speculated that yes there wasn't fan. That was exactly it and some random Twitter spoilers before with about forty followers posted this. They can't reveal their sources. That would be really slots journalism. Yeah. Well. Feeds comeback. Low low is still in the house. And Dina and tame are are in fact nominated for eviction we are at least I assumed that they were playing veto, which is why the feeds are down for so long. They did not play the veto. They just did nominations. There was quite a bit of drama apparently that followed the nominations, and there's certainly was a little bit that we saw on the feeds, but still have really no idea why the feeds down people people are saying look people have been making a lot of big brother, Canada comparisons based on the editing of the episodes. How bad it is. And now with a random like nine our feet outage for no reason. Starting to starting to make some sense here. The the big brother Canada comparisons. I feel like I felt like big brother US always wanted to be more like big brother Canada. But they felt like they couldn't copy it. So so now with the celebrity edition, I feel like they're trying to be like, hey, no, no this we can do big brother Canada. But but it's different because we're celebrities. That's it. What if we take all of the worst parts of big brother cameras? So we don't mimic the amazing cast in the great game play like that. We just mic that the feeds are out forever. And all the annoying parts that everybody loves Kemba. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go Dina and tame are up on the block taymor is going to have a conversation with DNA. She is obviously upset that she's on the block, but even more than that even more than that she's upset because Kato apparently in his nomination speech mentioned her son, and we'll get a little bit of a conversation with her and Kato later where he goes on to explain that he apparently has been told that taymor wants to leave because she wants to be with her son that she's sad because she's not with her son. And then he also said that she doesn't like clean up after herself. Very well. And so both of those things were upsetting to tame on. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's fair to be upset about like, I think a lot of people who who will say like, oh, I'm so mad that you brought somebody's name into this that I think is little silly. When people like say, like swear on your on, your son, or whatever like, I think that that's all that's all whatever. But to say like, you should go home to your son. Like, we would you say that to a father first of all? And Secondly, like where is this even coming from like if you didn't hear it from her that's not really fair for her? It's like have expressed a private moment of like, I miss my son. Of course, she does you know like that's not fair to use against her. And like play it off his JiJi of like, oh, like I'm doing you a favor because you need to go home to your son. It's just really kind of gross and also like a super cop out for Kato. Yeah. I think I think taymor comes to a conclusion that Natalie is probably the one that told him which I think it might actually be true or no actually might have been Lolo. But but yes, like like using that as because here's the thing and taymor. I think understands this more than most people is because she she knows she's very used to people trying to make her out like she's crazy, which sometimes she is a bit over the top. However, she also has experienced a lot of people trying to make her out to look like that. And when you try to avoid looking like that you often come out looking like that. So, but the point is that nobody's going to see the again, just like these articles of Lolo. Nobody's gonna see the conversation afterward. We're like, well, no, that's not the case. They're only gonna see the episode and the nomination thing where Cato says, you're you're slob and you want to go home because you miss your son. And neither of which she feels are particularly true. So I definitely understandably upset and Kato. We'll we'll talk about Cato a little bit later. But. Really really bad h h here so far for Katie not only bad decisions, but definitely bad bad speeches about optics. Just don't you can't make those decisions for other people. Like, you can't decide that somebody needs to go home because of personal things. And also like you can't it's just so icky to me and like note for future big brother players like please don't use people's outside lives against them. Like, it's really is not fair to like be penalized for being a mother misses her son in this again. This is exactly the kind of thing where. This is this is very relevant to strategy. Like, the fact that we're we're talking about this not only because of like the personal ramifications in what's right, and what's wrong. But this is celebrity big, brother. These people will watch the show afterward, and they will see everything, and when you do things like this that are unnecessarily personal and unnecessarily. Just like, whoa. Why would you say that to Cato Cato? Why would you say that about are that makes a huge difference when it comes to Jerry management on this version of the show, you need to be careful, and I don't understand why I do understand because they still haven't really watched the show. I mean, our has like someone who has never seen a show for and particularly doesn't. Well, I don't know if he's seen the show before. But particularly like not understanding the differences of celebrity because it is so new, and I guess like easy for them to forget that like the jury portion of this is very different. Which is a great point. Like, I don't know, man. You can't get caught up in the moment, or whatever his lame excuse is going to be for this. But he also never apologize. So we then get. Dna is also upset with Kato because because she was the whole Dina thing. Let's let's talk about the other side of where Kato's wrong here. Is that DNA really likes Cato really liked Kato really was on board with working with Kato? But. But KEDO decided not to tell her about the vote for Jonathan Dina was upset about that Kato did her wrong. She was upset because she was upset Cato was like. Now, eight her she's upset with me. And she's on the block somebody that he should be able to work instead of apologizing and just being like, I'm sorry. I just I didn't know what to do. And I know you like Jonathan I didn't want to implicate whatever he nominated her. And so now she's obviously upset about that and about the deteriorating relationship here. So that's that's happening as well. Right remarkable game play is just like any person who might possibly nominate you at any point in the future. Just get rid of the don't try to build any prince because totally work. So tame our talks with Lolo and her solution to their conflict is all right? You know what? We just won't talk game. I'm not gonna talk game with you and Natalie anymore because I just I wanna be able to remain friends with you guys. Yeah. And not only that. But she's also not gonna talk to Ricky anymore because Ricky didn't come in check on her or check in with her at all during the day after all this happened. So, you know, she's also really mad at Kato. So she has just decided to with. With house and not speak. But for people now, here's the thing about taymor. If she is upset, and you don't go and see if she like how she's doing then you're dead to her. If you do come and see how she's doing then she'll probably get into an argument with you because she's upset, but that's better than not coming to see if she's upset because if you don't come to see if she's upset then you're dead to her like Kato and Ricky or just dead to her right now, and she never wants to see or speak to them ever again. But she will end up having a couple of hours later conversational Kato. So maybe maybe voiding her is actually the best Raji, and then talking with her after things have settled who knows who knows is. It's a tricky. It's a tricky situation wrecking situation. Tricky ricky. So we get a conversation with Natalie low low, Tom and Kato they come together to talk about the plan for the week. They discuss back Doering Ryan that seems to be the main plan right now is let's take off taymor and will end up back during Ryan and everything will be fine. And happy lo lo is kind of like what about Joey though, could we do Joey instead Ryan like maybe thinking about Joey because I still have some weird relationship with Ryan. Maybe I dunno argument, and I can't possibly I give her enough credit to not believe that she actually thinks this. But her argument for keeping Ryan is so funny to me, which is that like America is going to turn on you hit. Oh, if you nominate Ryan because Ryan is so popular it's America's sweetheart Ryan locked e who like we only know as like. Being a moron and be like lying about having a crime committed against them during the Olympics. Like is. He's the someone that people are like, no, not our poor. Sweet right. Not Ryan locked -i. I mean. To be fair as he points out when he's in the diary room there apparently telling him that he's made for TV. They're loving everything that he's giving them in the diary room. And I don't know I think he is kind of coming off as one of the more likely people on the cast, which is probably saying more about the cast. Hundred percent agree with? I think he's pretty good on this. So I agree. He is entertaining. But it's just like it's not to the degree that like people rioted in the streets. We. Ryan here. I think people are more likely to riot against Kato just for not listening to Tom ever. And for being just like total zero. Screen. Sorry. I don't care about him. Also, like a revolted. I also confused about Lola's argument here because like what's going to happen. Kato kaylin career is going to suffer like what what does he do? Zand to lose his what was it thirteen thousand Twitter followers, like. Okay. It's just like I don't know if America turns against him who who cares like what what is Kato kaylin trying to make himself these days that he really needs America's support the next time. He goes on a reality show. It might be fan based voting what reality show is Kato going on. He's going to be on the challenge. Nick. So anyway, anyway, repulsed trackers starring Natalie Natalie's, really pushing no it needs to be Ryan also Kato says I made a deal with Joey I'm not gonna back back away from the deal. I'm not going to nominate Joey so Joey is safe. But he does want at least one person from that trio gone, Joey Ryan or DNA he sees them as a trio they're not really. In fact, we're going to see Ryan try to start that trio a little bit later after this conversation because he saw these four talking and DNA is on the block Kato really really bad at this game. I'm I'm discovering he's he's real. He's reminding me of Raoul from big brother Canada for I think, I think that he might be you know, one of the all time worst. Polled. Call. This is seriously one of the worst aviation, so okay? So we're gonna continue this conversation with the four of them Kato starts as Cato wants now. All right. So per from us who do we think has the best chance to win this game? Tom. I know you think it's Ricky. And Tom is like, oh, thanks for telling them that. They're they're super close was Ricky. But okay, I guess I gotta go with it. Now. So Tom is like, yeah. Ke's pretty dangerous. I think I think that because he knows about our four person alliance which because they talk for eleven hours in this conversation now everybody knows about because obviously Ryan notice that they're talking. Yes, he's like TOMS like Ricky, I think Ricky's the most dangerous I think that he knows about us. So obviously if he ever wants to win the game he needs to split us up and the women are like, nah. That he's not gonna do that. What are you talking about? Because he knows that he's with them and Ricky splits them up. It's going to be Tom and Cato on the block and Tom's like. I mean, I think it's dangerous though. I mean, he's why wouldn't he make the move feel like things going to happen? And the women are like not don't worry about it point. Yeah. It's just Ricky is cool personal IM name. I don't think. So the women don't even think their final alliance. The women are like, yeah, we made a one week deal with these students. And catos like, yes. Funnel four. Can't. Wait bricky is definitely not gonna come for us. They promised. Well, they probably. Let me take out one of my own allies. For them. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. Nice to see like somebody being kind of spun around by the women because I feel like a lot of this is like men talking actual game and women screaming at each other. Glad to see somebody being a man being taken down by two even if it's kiddo. Caitlyn? Yeah. Whatever. Something here. Yes, we do. Then see Ryan notices that these four have been talking for a while. And he's like. Hey taymor. Do you think that they might be working together? Like in an alliance. Locking sounds like Scooby doo. He's. Feel working. Hey, Ryan, you want some Scooby snacks you want some luck. These snacks. This is next. Look, it's bird. Oh. Anyway. So Ryan is like, hey, hey, Samar think they're working together. And tame our says, yeah, they are. They're an alliance. Also, Ricky is with them. Okay. That's dangerous. Good to know. Yeah. And Ryan like, well, maybe the rest of us should be. Hm? Wait a minute. So if Tom Cato Lolo Natalie Ricky, our lines than maybe that means that's five there's ten maybe we I'm me, Joey Dina. Rickie handy. Seriously, did mention Rinke. Lookout. Wait a minute. Can we trust tricky? No. With them. Unbreakable alliance right is point together the the here. Yes. So, but he does go to Dina. And he says, hey, those four are working together potentially with bricky. So we so we should get together with candy, and Rick and Joey and make this happen. We can be in an alliance. It'll be great and dean is like, yes, I agree. I'm all aboard. Yes. And so then you down gets Joey he gets Joey on board. Joey, Joey, Joey. Yeah. Absolutely, bro. Yeah. Let's do it. And then some Burke's, and we'll be good, and then some push-ups, and then it'll be great. But then they're like can we trust Ricky? I don't know about. Because thinking is definitely the strong suit of these two Joey and Ryan I think we did skip over time wise that Cato did have his conversation with Tamar, and they hashed out the thing when taymor said, I'm not sad about my son. I'm here for my son. Don't don't don't be worrying about that. And catos like. Sorry about that. I was told in all of this stuff and things may not be as they seem as the great Julie, Chen, moon, visits and. The maybe maybe you'll end up being safe. And maybe there's another plan in the works. Yeah. Maybe wait. That's Kato says to her. Well, look, I added. Some more words he said things might not be as. Weirdly confident. Being. I try to get their essence. Just clarifying. But he wasn't like, ooh. Never know. Twins. Basically, let's like, hey, we're going to be we're going to be back touring. Ryan don't worry about it. So then we get DNA in Kato talk. This is after Ryan approaches DNA with this idea for a an alliance and DNA is telling Kato, hey. I don't like what you did. She tries to make him feel bad for for what happened. And she says like what what do I need to do to stay here because I want stay, and I wanna work with you guys. I like you guys what what happened? Why is this happen to us Cato? And he basically implies like when the veto. And you know, maybe there's a backdoor option for maybe somebody named Ryan. And she's like, oh, yeah. Great. I would love for Ryan's ago. I'm totally onboard. What about their new unbreakable alliance? Look Deena who knew she's a backstabber. Cato was right all along, man. Dino is some good instincts here. I think that it seems as though Ryan and Joey are sinking ship. She is not going to go down with that ship, and she is going to try and work way in with Tom and Cato, which is what they should have done all along. But. She's she's managing to go. Talk to Tom. Kid who's gonna talk Tom about this conversation? They talk about like, hey, maybe we can bring in DNA with us if she stays maybe that can be something that can happen. Like, yeah. We were talking about that like five days ago. But thanks, thanks for finally catching August. They, you know, maybe maybe even take her off the block instead of taymor tobacco a riding. Tom is again going to be like. And then the thing about Ricky is and keta just like. Final word on this matter. I am. Not nominating. Ricky. A points to Tom for. I don't know being insisted for trying to get this land to work. Kato is the worst alliance member. Terrible H O H. I'm serious like he's so bad. He's so bad isn't aligns member listening to the women who are playing him. And he's not listening to Tom who actually does have his best interests or their best. And the thing is like last week. When Cato was saying, no, we're going to continue to take Jonathan. We shouldn't not take out Jonathan. He was being super stubborn about it. And not listening to Tom, and I was like Kato come on have some fun. But at least it was the right decision. Right. Like, at least he was actually. Right. That time this time. He's being Justice stubborn if not more. So which is frustrating because he's anti anti team fund. But he's also really wrong about it this time, right? Which is so much worse. Yeah. We love clueless 'nice, plus extreme confidence. That's what makes for a really good big brother player. So that's what it's looking like it's looking as though the veto. Will be used either on DNA or tamer. It's there are very few people. I think that wouldn't use it. Maybe Ryan would use it on Dina. And then hope that Kato sticks to his word and doesn't nominate Joey and hopes that they can keep the three of them safe. I I'm guessing Joey wouldn't use it. But I think basically everyone else would. And and Ryan is definitely in a lot of trouble here. Lock day travel. Regretting having back. There was talk about the veto playing out live on Monday as well as the live vixen. They were told that Monday was alive show. However, the person who said this was Joey, and then other people said it as well, I think Joey was the first person to say it, which might have put it in other people's heads. He also said it was going to be a two hour episode on Monday, which I believe it is not which means that he may just be assuming that the veto is going to be played live on Monday based on last season. Because that's what they did last season. But they're potentially not doing the same thing as last season because it's not a two hour episode. So we don't know exactly what's happening with the veto potentially. It's going to happen today. Or it's going to happen live on Monday. It's going to be one of those two because they can't play it not live on Monday. Right. Okay. Well, either way you're going to let us know. I will. Yes. There were a couple of other funny things here tame, our did let the women know that Ryan is onto them. Oh, Ryan saw you guys talking with Tom and Cato. He knows that you're working together. Left out the part where she said that they're working together and Ricky involved, but said, hey, watch O rien. He's he's got he's he's a smart one. He's got it all figured out that thing that anybody has ever said about Ryan Laki before. Yes. So intelligent and crafty, we we also got a couple of great showy moments. He's he's still very he's I think he's so easy to make fun of them starting to like him in a weird way. He's he's into the bedroom. And he's just like. All right, guys. Ryan, I got an epic night plan. Oh, it's going to be so good. So Ryan he's going to go for a swim. And then it's going to come over. We're going to do some burpee. Yeah. Then we're gonna we're gonna shower. Nice and clean. Then we're gonna go. Change the bed linens. Yes. I guess there's not that much too excited about actively was the big brother house. So you gotta get like really about burpee. So so him Dimo purpose. His ethnic night is that Ryan is going to go for a swim. While I do nothing. And then there is another another. He's by himself, and he's he's teaches talks into his microphone and he's just like, hey guides. If I could just do my die room a little bit earlier than usual. I would just I would appreciate that. So I would be so thankful for you guys. So that'd be that'd be. So so nice of you. And this is this is Joey by the way. Lawrence. The I I say, well, that's he didn't do. I'm really I feel like I feel like I'd be lost without showing in this. He's really providing me with a lot of entertainment the other person, of course, being Tom who also had quite a bit of silliness last night. He usually does. And I haven't mentioned too much of it so far because it's not very game relevant. But I feel like you need to know that this is happening basically after everyone goes to sleep Tom starts. Just doing like a the Tom green show. I guess in the big brother house. He's going over the props in the in the house saying talking about ice skates. And he's like these are dangerous. I'm gonna put these ones the way he's putting plates on his head. He's grabbing the cereal boxes and doing the cereal box Osprey. He's been put it's very funny because he's very scared of getting caught doing it. So he's just like. Scared of getting caught he doesn't want anyone to know how goofy. He is. He's a professional comedian. He's the problem is that he was making too many jokes on this celebrity apprentice. So he's very scared of coming off as like the the two jokey he wants to be like one of the normal people. He doesn't want anyone to realize how crazy is at one point. He. He had like he put he dressed himself in a whole costume of like, this is this is a character. I'm doing and it was up in the HOA trim. And he was like somebody could come in here at any moment. And then they're just going to kick me out right there. Right. Then. I guess. Him for taking the game. Seriously. He doesn't wanna seem like too much of a jokester. Nobody will vote for him in the end. We'll we'll say that. So that's basically what was going on yesterday. See I told you I told you nine hours of feeds down, but we still had we still had some stuff to talk about here. Was there anything else that you wanted to bring up leader? No, I think that about covers it I just want to note that I really loved the moment on the fiends when like at the exact same time that the four seven is talking. I'm sorry. The force of the Folsom. It's not a real. They're saying like, oh like, you know, if if the nomination stay the same. We're definitely gonna vote out. We're definitely gonna victim. They all agree on that. And then it cuts to Martelli DNA. Oh, you're definitely saying. And just really like those moments. That's like, oh, you definitely won't get boats from Ricky now lo low and like by the end of the day like it's potentially true. But at the same time there have eight music opposite conversations. And I was like what happens on the? Mean tame Mars was like convinced that the women had it out for her. But then also is still working with them is still friends with. It's it's very strange relationship is going to have to work with people that have it out for her. Otherwise, she's going to work with no one. She is truly a wild card. Yeah. It's I don't know what we do without her. If she if she left this week. So hopefully, she doesn't. But I also don't wanna lose Ryan quite yet. But Joey either I personally wouldn't mind losing Joey. Not that that's going to happen. But there was there was talk of maybe I don't know the way that these people's swing left and right. You never know. I I really I just want like Joey to suffer because it gives me pleasure. And he suffers every moment. He's in there. Watching live feeds is to joy other people's to set you signed up. He's trying to not give us entertainment. But by trying not to he's actually providing the most entertainment. All right. Thank you everyone for joining us. I'll of course, be live tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the feeds there is an episode tonight that we will be recapping and tomorrow night is going to be the live addiction might also be alive veto competition. So. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Jan 31

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Jan 31

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Licensed in all fifty states animal last number thirty thirty additional conditions. Exclusions apply. And yes and also with us tonight filling in for Brent to unfortunately, could not make it here tonight is Matt Liguori. I do. I'm good very excited to be here. I'm glad glad Brent could not make it. So I could have a chance to hop on one of these things. Although he like, you know, you guys. No, he left me with his everything to the stock watch. So I have the ability to either completely tank his game this season or just go with what he sent me. So we'll see what I decide. All right. We'll we'll find out. We are. Of course here live as we will be every week during big brothers. Liberty to argue about what's been happening on the live feeds, and we are here on YouTube. You can join us in the chat chat is here. Brent is. Okay. Don't worry. He's fine. He's just he's really embarrassed about how wrong he's been about a lot of things including Joey. And so he just want to show his face tonight. And you know, think things happen, unfortunately. So yes, he'll be. Okay. Yeah. So let's get to the roundtable. Here. We have to start by recapping the week and in order to. Kept the week. We need to tell you about everything that's happened since the last round table, which has actually included two of actions. So since the last schedule Jonathan was victim guys. Remember that? Wow. A very longtime ago. Feels like a lifetime ago. It really does. Wow. Okay. Victim in six to one vote. Kato ended up winning the next eight your wage in the process of winning that h however Dina upset him because DNA was rooting for Joey instead of Cato, not good. No good. Tom tried to pitch a move. Let's like let's move against Ricky. Let's do this. Let's let's do a Ricky thing and Cato was like, no not not having it. Don't like that DNA made me mad and tame our and shrimp just together don't work. Very well. So I'm going to do DNA entame are those were the nominations tame mar was mad. The plan was to back door. Ryan. Of course, Tom won the veto did not use it and Brian locked de was in fact, back doored evicted also six to one. And sad gently this too. It's been it's been really sad to lose these guys right off the top of the season. You know, we always say that we want an older cast, and we finally got an older cast. And now like two of the youngest guys on the cast have been a victim. And now it's like a really older cast. So we're seeing what's happening when it's just a group of like forty and fifty year olds or playing big brother, and it's been it's been a lot better at least this week than I expected. I once Ryan was gone. I personally was like, wow, I'm really going to be losing interest. I I don't know. But the this week is not disappointed. All right. Well, Tom is going to end up winning the next h he wants to back door. Ricky Tom wants to make the move. He's been wanting to make the move all along he's been wanting to do this and Kato is finally on board. This is what's happening. You know? He's he's he's he he says, okay. We're doing it. I'm fine. We'll let's go. Meanwhile, the secret power is announced a secret. Power in the house. Somebody has it. They're not sure who and this this causes some chaos. We're not sure if we can do the Ricky backdoor anymore. I don't know guys. What did what do you think? Maybe we can do the Ricky backdoor. But what if he has the power? But what if tamer has the power, I think that candy has the power? No, I think that Joey has the power. All right. So they ended up nominating. Joey and candy. Pay Mars mad. It's not she's not she's not happy ever. Not. That should just be like after every sentence like tail Mars mad. I haven't Raigmore is upset at least three times. Over like, sometimes nothing sometimes important things. But sometimes just like what why she bad. Yes. So basically, Cato was convinced the candy had the power Tom thought, maybe Joey had the power. They are still thinking we can potentially back door Ricky. But we're not sure especially now with the power and play. And so. Candy, and Joey ended up going on the block, Tom is then gonna get all murder mystery on everyone he is really into this. Like, hey, let's have some fun. We'll be like a murder mystery night. And every time he tries to describe it to people they go. Oh, you mean like clue? Well, I mean, yeah, I guess so. He really wanted the murder mystery bar. So he goes all murder mystery. And guess what would happen there taymor? Get mad. How he's tried to tried to figure out if damar had the power, which she does as as we all know. And she was immediately like, whoa. Are you trying to what are you trying to say are you trying to threaten me that if I have the power you're gonna put me on the block and forced me to the powers that what's happening right now. Or are you trying to threaten me, Tom? And he said, no, I did a whole reenactment of not only the argument, but then the retail's mmediately afterward in the live feed updates. If you're curious to see that it was pretty funny. I really hope that the Joe it on the episodes. But I'm not super confident in them at this point anyway, pay Margot mad. That's all you really need to know. So Tom is now going to so now he's SU he has Joey and candy on the block Joey comes to Tom. He comes to Kato. He gets them feeling good about him. They feel pretty confident that Joey is does not have the power, and they also feel confident that Joe is potentially willing to work with them moving forward, and that they could have his vote. So they're starting to think now. Okay. Let's take down Joey and. Potentially back door Ricky, maybe back door taymor. See if she has the power, we'll see. But basically we want Joey off the block, and this is really the start. I guess not the start. But like the start of Joey actually being actually weirdly effective in the house, Melissa, very weirdly. It was very unexpected. I honestly I thought that he wasn't going to even try honestly thought he was just going to be like, you know, what I'm not going to fight this. I'm just gonna go, and he's actually impressed me with his ability to or his even more at not really his ability, but more his desire to even stay in the house because I didn't really see him actually having any desire to stay in the house. I mean, even when he's going through that slaughterhouse haunted house. It was like he just was like not wanting to be there at all. And so it's been it's been pretty good to see Joey progression. At least right now. It has been interesting. Matt what have you thought of Joey this week? You would have thought that after Jonathan and Ryan go out of the house back to back. His, you know, only two friends in the house that he would have been really down and out. But he really has pulled it together this week. He's he's he's found a way to play the game in that's been the driving force of what's making low so frustrated or one of the many driving forces making her frustrated because Joey said early on. I'm not looking for an alliance. I don't wanna play this game. I don't wanna be underhanded and do anything like that. And then all of a sudden now he's like interested in talking to these people and playing the game with these people and someone comes up to low low, and they're like, oh, yeah. Joey said he's willing to work with us. And she's like I tried on day. One in the first five minutes of being in the house to make an alliance with Joey. And he said, no. And now he wants to work with people like it's been fourteen days calmed down. But that's low for you. But yeah, Joe he's been doing been doing a lot better than most of us expected. Does get very worked up over Witter. Se Ri conversation is like so heated, it get it goes from zero to one hundred like so fad, we talked about same are being the one who gets mad about everything. And so he did. But I would argue it might be low low that is a little more tense in. And plus she's more serious when she gets angry KMart. You could always be like, oh is she messing with me like she joking around and she doing this for a show, but Lolo it's like aggressive mad, and it's kind of scary. Louisville genuine emotions I would be scared by little. With mad at me. And I was in a small room with her. I would be I would be terrified. And you never know when it's coming not at all like like they'll be in the middle of a conversation like a small talk like just getting on the same page. Like, this is happening. Like twenty minutes before we got on here. They're having a meeting and just somebody says the wrong thing to her. And she just snapped. Tom. Don't do this to me. Tom. Don't do. This don't start now. Yeah. Oh, that'd be other day. She liked got. So worked up that there were people playing pool outside h room when Thomas trying to talk to her and she's like, okay? We'll just give up the alliance. Let's give it up after a nothing. It was like, whoa. What's going on here? It's pretty it's intense. It is alright. So Tom and Kato now feel good about Ricky. They wanna take him off the block their ho they're hoping they eventually decide. Okay. Screw the power. We're still going to go through with her and Ricky backdoor plan. But but first we need to pitch it to low and Natalie we need to get them on board. With basically, we we want to back door Ricky because we think that he's secretly working with Natalie and Lolo and that when it comes down to the final five or potentially even earlier Ricky is going to be able to take a shot at us and team up with the women. So in order for us to take a shot. Rickie for that reason we're going to pitch to the women. Why we think we should take Ricky? Oh because he's going to team up with them against us. And they're going to accept that reasoning. And we're all going to move forward like a happy family. Now. No, no. I mean, Ricky Ricky is close with the girls Tom correctly identifies. That, but that's why this is such a mistake for him. Because you know, he just thinks that it's going to be so easy for him to say, well, this guy's a threat because of x y and z, but one of those reasons is because he's close with people that you're telling Tom's going to the girls and saying. Rickie needs to get out of here. I know that you guys like him or whatever. But but we need to do something about it. And the girls are like what are you know? Like, that's not what we want to do it all and it's so like firmly planted in Thomas brain that this is what he wants to do. So it's just really uncomfortable to watch as he spirals out of control here. Yes. And again, I'll mention again that in recapping this we are skipping over a lot of detail because a lot of the detail never goes anywhere, Tom and Cato talk in circles, and Leslie they come up with a million plans, and I still could not tell you. I still could not tell you not even close to tell you what their eventual final plan is going to be this week. So so we're going to do our best explaining what what's happening with them. But in the meantime, they do they pitched this Ricky plan to know low and no low goes, no, no, this is no good. They go, and they tell. You should've seen how much fun. I had writing this recap. It was full of full. Full every every three lines taymor is mad. Cannot wait till listen to I one. Oh god. So they go, and they tell Rickie Ricky's like, oh, this is this is this going, what's what's going on? And then all of a sudden Joey comes out of nowhere. He gets the Joey signal. He pitches the house flips. Hey work with me. Let's take out tomato. And we'll go with Joey Batman. It'll be great batmans are way better than tomatoes is. And so he's like, yes. Let's do this and no lows like, yes. Yes. We like this and taymor is like, yes, we I like this as well. Let's work together. And Ricky is like I'm not sure if I like this and then Joey talks to him. And he's like, oh, you're right. I do like this Batman and the avengers or sorry. The Justice league assembles. Remember when we thought that Tom and Cato, we're like in great positions that Tom was the mastermind strategist behind the two of them. And it was all going swimmingly like literally. Last roundtable, essentially what we talked about this. And now now everything's different Joey came in just sort you're saying is you give them like eight thousand nine for this week in the stock watch, essentially. Yes, okay. I mean, ten per time this week really the speaks to what we were talking about this morning on the update about how this is. Joe is good work that he's put in he managed to take two people in Lolo and Ricky that weren't feeling great about him and completely turned things around. And now there could be a whole new group forming in the house. Yes, it's pretty impressive. And if I end the season absolutely in love with Joey Lawrence. So be it will be the really be like the number one Lawrence brother after what he got his might be the number one Lawrence, brother. You still feel like I still feel like when I watched the episode that he does not want to be there at all like, even when he's in the DR. He's just like can't me out of this room. When you the competitions. He's like get me out of this competition. Like all of it. Che's? I don't know. But it's very strange like I always noted he's got the reflection from the lights are nurse share. He doesn't wear them in the house ever. Yeah. I has to what does he have to see in the diary room they need glasses. I do have some bright lights in dire room, Sean sunglasses. They're just regular basis unless there's like a really small very early two thousands class. Sure. Sure. And he gets a lot of diarrhea rooms he's like a real locked he's gone. So I guess maybe they're dumping all the all the load on him now. Well. Stay like your minds me of like Moby from the nineties with those glasses and like beanie like is that accurate? I feel like I don't know. Maybe I'm just imagining it. But that's that's what it feels like to me. It's pretty for. I think. Last season. We had Marisa as our celebrity big brother winner. And she did it almost like she she was trying to lose. And she by giving it to somebody else. And she ended up accidentally winning. I think it would be very appropriate. If Joey was our second reluctant winner. He was he didn't even want to be there. But since he was there fine. I'll play this stupid game. And then look I one there you be very fitting. Maybe this is all just an act. Maybe it's like he saw that Marissa tried to give it to Ross. And he was just like, okay. Well, I guess that's how I'm going to play it. I'm gonna pretend like I don't care. He's a secret superfan. Talk through will is his mentor, and he's trying to replicate the doctor will I don't wanna be here strategy. Oh my God. I think we'd just crack the case. Pitch and sound drops. What's happening with Joey either way, I want vindication. I feel like Ricky and Joey at this point or two of the best players in the house. Yeah. So you know, what I think maybe they're just doing really well because you drafted up exactly like they they got like the bat signal essentially of Taron, signaling lame. Oh, we're now enjoys putting work, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. He could still go home this week. He could. But I still feel vindicated because he is far far exceeded. I think all of the crazy Joey detractors. Yeah. I mean, he's obviously put in some some good work. But I I'm really looking forward to seeing if he can keep it up or if he just backs down because I think the adrenalin of having an enemy in the house like a common enemy between like a bunch of people has really fueled him. But suppose, he stays in the house, and then they get one of them out next week is he still like all right? I'm really trying to go forward and win the game. Or is. He just going to be like if I win the competition. I win if not whatever, I don't know. I don't know what we're going to get. Yeah. Well. So this this new alliance is formed. It's five people. It's Ricky, Joey, Natalie Lolo and taymor. Then they play the veto Natalie wins the veto. She is not going to use the veto. She does not want to risk anybody going up which obviously indicates I'm fine with Joey being risked. But Joey cool with that. Joe doesn't mind. He's just here for the fun and the enhancing out, and he's just here to help you guys the plan last night was that Joey was going to win the veto and not use it on his own. He was like fully intending that if he wanted he was going to keep himself on the block to avoid Ricky having to go up. And why does this always happen? Or I feel like it's always the case where it's like, oh my God. If Joey wins the veto he's not gonna use it. And I feel like that happened on big brother twenty two at some point where if like if one person had one, it it was a chance that they would do something really dusty, maybe it might have been fussy. And so, but then they don't win it. And it's like, no. Yeah. I think he probably would have I find it very difficult to believe that he actually would have gone home if he had won and not used it. But still that would have been interesting to see somebody not use the veto in the nocco home that could change the entire like lexicon of big brother, Vito use. So. Natalie want it? We're always like, you know, you get the veto. You have to use it. You know, look, Marcellus and everything. And now, it's like, oh, well, you know, you might say, it's it's a possible strategic move. But can't can't put that into practice yet. There's a lot of merit and somebody who's like not dying to be there. Like like, you know, he he's obviously showing interest in playing the game. But this isn't like as important to him as it is to the other houseguests. So there's a lot less than the line. If he happened to go home for for making a bowl play like that. So yeah. That would've been fun carrying too much is is showing that you care too much. Definitely I think that's one of the reasons why Dr will was so effective in season seven, obviously jokes aside view comparisons. And they're so as it as it stands to the difference with Dr now, obviously, there's a lot of differences, but the difference between Dr wills not caring and like the one different Joey. Basically the same person. Really? I mean, let's be honest. But the difference between that version of not carrying and the version of night carrying that Joey is giving is I feel like in the DR doctor will showed that he cared, whereas Joey and the DR is showing even more. So that he doesn't care like if anything I think the DR is making me think he really doesn't want to be there. So I feel like that's also a difference. It's like if Joey in the house is strategically saying like, I don't care put me on the block, whatever you guys want to do. But then in the DR being like, okay. This is why I'm saying that and this is like my strategy to move forward, and blah, blah, blah. Then I'd be like, okay. I get it strategy. It's all strategy. But right now, I feel like legitimately just doesn't care. So no, that's that's why nobody's been able to replicate. Dr will strategy is because. You know, you either have to genuinely not care which means not playing enough to to probably win in the end or you just you're not able to do it. You can't pretend to not care. Just doesn't work. Joey here Joey going now. So he knows what he's doing as as things currently stand. What it looks like a tentative vote count here because the veto ceremony. Just very recently happened not only did not use the veto Joey and candy have remained on the block on Saturday. They will vote between the two of them the votes currently stand at Natalie Lolo, Ricky and taymor to candy and Kato and Dina would be maybe victim, Joey I don't expect that count to stay the same though. I would prob I owed honestly expect that that all of the votes are going to get behind one or of these players. I think it's going to be unanimous. I think that eventually, Tom and Kato and Dina will know where the other four votes are going, and they will go along with those or they will something will happen and they'll want Joe instead and everyone Joey out or if things stay the same right now. I think it will probably be unanimous. Candy will be victims six to one. That's my guess. But as it currently stands is kind of four to two. Yeah. Like like, we talked about this morning. There's a lot of reasons that it could flip back and forth. They feel like Joey is such a big jury threat, especially just given these two people that are already infected from the house being his two close friends. So I don't know if that's even a factor to them. I don't know if they're just trying to make sure that they have an army ready to go to face, Tom and take Kato next week. But I really think it could could end up either way. I do agree though, that it's probably going to be all the votes on one person. Yes. So let's talk about the state of the house here because we had we had a lot of shifting going on. And I also want to bring up just you know, if you are interested in filling out the form for tonight's roundtable where you rate the players it will help populate the numbers for the stock. Watch an answer all the questions that we'll be discussing toward the end of this podcast. You still have time before we get there. It's on my Twitter. You can go there and and fill it out. If you want to promise. It's very easy. So you can find it there. Armstrong Taryn is the Twitter you can find it. So let's talk about the state of the house here. We have hash tag team fund. Blown up Tom Cato, Natalie Lolo, Ricky, they were they were they were fun together. But they were fun when they exploded the lines dead. Tom has killed his killed them. It's no more. You know, do is do we have any parting words for hashtag team fun? Not so fine. I just feel like they were very dysfunctional, which isn't fun. They're not functional. Okay. Whatever. All I know is that I just I, you know, I didn't really like them together. Because I just felt like it was kind of it was kind of a toxic alliance. I felt like even though they were all very strong. I felt like I just felt like it came down to really Lolo asserting her will over everyone. I don't know. I just feel like she was able to. She wouldn't listen to what anyone else wanted to say or strategize except for like Ricky with some like, you're or something that was just like sitting off to the side, and she would come to him and in like, the weight room or whatever. And he would tell her like, yes, that's the idea. You should be following. It was like some weird thing where I just felt like Tom and Cato weren't being heard at all. But they thought they were being heard and I felt like they're being tricked the whole time. And I just I didn't like it very much. So you know, what I'm fine with that alliance. Breaking up. I think be very interesting part of this is the fact that we know it's broken up. And they know it's broke. Up, but they're still pretending like, it's not. So, you know, as we just saw a couple, you know, like you said before this podcast. They just had a meeting and they're pretending like they're still together. You know, all in snails Miguel's in housing fist to the end. They're still under you know, for the cameras there are at least, maybe this is Tom Tom likes to choreograph everything. He's still trying to make it seem like they're together. Basically how Tom described his relationship with Ricky to Lolo is that we both know we're lying to each other. Which is now become what's happened with all of team fund where they just before this podcast started had a meeting of together where they everybody in the meeting knew that they were no longer together. But they were both pretending that they were. And after the meeting ended both sides are like, oh, man. Did you see them lying to us? Crazy crazy how they just lied to us like that. Right. It's pretty funny. And I allows literally like should I just go outside and tell everybody that this alliance is dead because I don't know what we're doing pretending. He said this before the meeting, and he just ended again, right after he's like this is stupid by pretending like, maybe it will actually help us if we showed to show that we're separated. But in the meantime, they're just smiling and just like being so passive aggressive with each other at certain points. It's it's fun to watch. And the like it's getting it's getting nasty in here. I'm seeing as we speak Natalie. I can't handle that dude, Tom. He's he's crazy there. So bothered than mad that their little master plan. Did not work says now Tom teed? Yeah. Trump's really heated right now. I mean, he literally sent to Cato before the before everybody came into the room. We're not going to accuse them of anything. We're just going to let them talk and agree. And then Natalie who had just been talking to Ricky came in the room. And she's like I heard you guys were saying that I was not around all day. But I was and he immediately goes, yeah. I couldn't find you. And he starts accusing her of things and he just completely calm. Predicts everything that he's saying within seconds, and it frustrates the other girl. The this is the this is like an immature like high school relationship where. Both sides today. We're like, well, they haven't talked to me. So I'm just going to stay right here. Wait for them to come and talk to me. And then they finally got together. And they're like, so why didn't you come and talk to me? And then the other ones like why didn't you come and talk to me like what did you didn't come and talk to me? And then they're in a stalemate of immaturity. It's it's it's crazy to watch. I just feel like that is never good scenario if ever especially in the house too. I feel like it's like the worst thing you can do is just not talked to someone. I just think that a lot of misunderstandings happen and even in real life too. It's like you just like it's better to just go there and talk to them and not. Not be too proud, especially in the house to go talk to someone because you do see that a lot of the time. If when you're not communicating with someone that's when all the rumors started about you. And that's when all the strategies and goes on behind your back. And that's when you get kicked out of whatever alliance you were in. I mean, we've seen this happen. So many times where the person just decides they're not gonna talk and thinking. Okay. Well, that's that'll be fine for me. And it's not fine for you at all. You definitely need to talk to the person. I tweeted about this earlier because Tom I don't understand why Tom spent the entire morning like he was laying on the floor in the atrium telling the cameras, you know, I'm just gonna wait here until someone comes to find me. There's no reason for the girls that's a confined, you you were the one who had this crazy plan to back door. They're close ally. You admitted that you think that they're close you and you're correct about that. I know he doesn't want to be correct about it. But he is. And he's waiting, you know, he had this. And if he wants to see get pushed forward, he should be the one that's going to them saying, so you're gonna use the veto and helped me get my back door done or not. But he's just waiting for Natalie to come to him. And it makes absolutely no sense to me. And like Taryn said it's just so high school, and so like like he's not getting anything done by by by acting this way. I don't understand what he's what he's going for it. All yes. He already knew that they were not interested in this plan. Like, they weren't there could have been more clear plan. And so instead, he's like, well, hopefully, they're just going to do it. Even though last time, we talked it didn't seem like never going to do it. And it had he had accepted that it wasn't going to happen. And then he wasn't going to do it. He was not like expecting it to go through always. However, the madly. Natalie and Lolo also decided went through with their plan of hey, well, let's blindside Tom by not using the veto and not telling him ahead of time just for the fun of it. So that that happened and Tom was like, well, why didn't you say anything like what? And you let me know what you were going to do. And so it's again, the pettiness on both sides is monstrous levels here. Especially for big brother celebrity season. And really especially Natalie who has this veto. It's like what are you doing? You're so clean right now. Like, why are you intentionally antagonist people? Why are you trash talking the more than you need to be just just chill chill a little bit. You'll be fine. Don't worry about it. Or just take Lola to the end. I guess that's also plan b. So team fund is dead. And I will say personally, I'm glad that they're dead. I think that they were in a prime spot because of the Jonathan twist to just run the table here, and Tom blowing them up really opened the game up. There is a small chance. However that we might just switch right back to this new alliance running the table, but we'll we'll get to that next up here. We we finally have real alliances. We got I called them Ricky, no, low Ricky, no low, it's Natalie Lolo, and Ricky, I what am I know Lowy? I don't know they they don't have an alliance name. Thought about it. I just I just I kind of feel like no low sounds like it could be a last name. So like, Ricky Nola. They remain tight. They're in control of the game. At this point. They remain in control of the game. They have just taken their their trio and moved it somewhere else. And and they're fine. The way that they are they're no lo- themselves, Natalie and Lolo still working very hard to give Natalie the win here when they sit next to each other and the final two, so they're very doing successful job at that one. Here we got tomato, Tom and Kato. They are working very hard to get themselves victim as soon as possible. So they're doing a good job there. They are the main targets of the house right now DNA is the only person that does not actively targeting them. I guess candy could potentially not be actively targeting them, but she's probably going home. And even if she doesn't go home, it's probably because she made a deal with the women to target them. So that's not great. Also, I feel like Dina's not super reliable. I think that she would sell them out in a second if she had to. So I think even she would probably go after them. I think that if Kato does not win the next HOA j-, I would very very much expect that one of them is leaving in the next addiction. That's really too bad. I like to see them together. And I wanted them to go far. I was very excited about the tomato alliance. But they just are just bad. They're just bad. They're just bad. And I really thought I honestly like if you had asked me this question last week. I would have said like, they're the brains of the house, and they I mean besides I do think that not no low and Ricky are smart. But I was like, I don't know guys, Tom. He is super good Kato's bring him down a little bit. But catos also good competition. So the two of them together. It's really great. They're going to go far and and literally in like less than a week. Now, it's just completely blown up in their faces. And I don't I don't I feel like I can't really trace the narrative of like how got so bad. But it really got so bad. It just not good for them. It's basically like Tom changing the plan every two seconds. Then like that pisses off his allies. And then he's expecting that the people he put up our cool with him. Like, Joey is a key part of this. Where like he thinks that Joey is cool with him. Even though he just put Joey on the block, and he's never actually had the conversation with Joey that is like, hey, I'm pulling you in. We're good together. I'll save you will keep you safe. Whatever it is. He just kind of assumes that Joey is cool and Joey Joey's not cool. He's with the women now and everything's everything's really not cool anymore. So yeah, it's not good news. It really all does trace back to Tom at the end of the day because we watched for the past two weeks while Tom or at least keta was HOA last week and Tom's the one that's trying to influence him to do something other than what I wanted to do. He he was talking about. Let's save Ryan. And then previously. Let's save Jonathan which if he had if the two of them had done that at the time would have blown their game up a week earlier. You know, I don't know to what extent I don't know. How things ultimately would have shaken out, but Tom clearly has a desire to just watch the world burn and just try to make something different happened from what what's actually happening. And then this week he fell into power and Kato instead of being the one that's like calming him down is, you know, he's listening to his friend who is now in power. And he's like, okay. Yeah. Sure. I'll listen to your ideas. Yeah. Maybe you are making sense and Thomas is being such a bad influence that he completely dragged both of them down to the bottom of the barrel. Go ahead. Natalie saying right now, Tom and Kato were looking at me like they were going to tear my effing faceoff where they tried to intimidate me. They trying to threaten me. Why does everyone that? There's. Reddening going on. There's no threatening. Green. Kato? They're not intimidating. They're not threatening their like these God this blundering. Hold mic. Yeah. They're like these like little like clowns of the house. And everyone's like, oh my God. I'm scared for my life. Yes. So here, we are vinyl. This new alliance. I'm I'm currently calling them hashtag new team fun. We could also call them the Justice league. I'm up for. I'm up for suggestions here. It's are you are you including taymor in that. Or just the four of them. Joey, I am including Tamar, but I have their boot order in taymor in it. So okay. She was in the room in the alliance was Yan. But it's very well documented that they do not have like all three of them in the room with are. Don't have great feelings for us. Yeah. Like, she's she's working with them. She's voting with them. They're not really with her in the same way. But she's I think technically part of the Justice league here, Joey Natalie Lolo taymor and look at that Ricky guy self involved their current boot order is going to get candy out keep Joey safe next Tom to get rid of him. He's crazy. He's crazy. He's threatening. Gotta get rid of him. Then Kato get rid of him. Get rid of the finish off the duo, then Tamar. Not even Joey Joey wasn't enough. They actually. Initially. It was it was Kato then Dina, but then there, but then taymor was like like breathed, and they were like, oh never mind taymor before DNA. Oh my God. So according to that pusher, the final four his Joey Ricky and no. Right. And they're expecting to get all this done with miss. I have an excuse every time it can't win a competition. So I guess Natalie's gonna win everything along the way to help them get there or maybe maybe some help from Joey who also hasn't won anything. But he's a big threat. I don't know. Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see if it works. I guess Glenn. Have it all mapped out? Yes. So so I'm I mean, do we really need to watch anymore? We know the boot order now coming home. I'm feeling pretty optimistic about this group t the original team fund was scary. Because all they needed to do not let Tom getting power, and they would have just run the table. This group definitely has some some nuances here. There's Joey who is a genuine endgame threat. They need to turn on him a lot sooner than they currently plan on doing it. There's taymor who is working with them. But they want to work against her. And I'm sure she'll work against them at some point very soon. And so. There's a lot that's probably going to blow up here. So I think we're probably fine. There is a small chance that this might be bad in that. All Tom really ended up doing was just giving us a couple of fun days before no lo and Ricky you're shifted over. And then ran the table in a different way. But I'm staying optimistic. I feel like we're probably we're hopefully good. Yeah. I feel like once if Tom and kit will do get split up. And then we still have this big alliance. I feel like people are going everybody outside of it is going to look at Natalie and Lolo, and maybe even with Ricky still and say all right now, we have to break that up. So I don't know if the H is going to be able to be kept outside of that three. If somebody else will have to win it, but say Kato gets kept in the house and now kiddo rallies. Everybody else. He hid his perfectly capable of winning in HR age as we know. And if he wins that he puts the girls up, and then maybe we can just keep breaking up, the strong duos, and keeping you know moving. Yes. There was wasn't unfortunate thing today where it was like, basically the feeds up. Until when Tom won the won the H wage. We're like pretty dull like Kato, h it was like, okay. Let's wait for the next one. Tom gets into power soon as Tom gets into power. It's like, oh, it's party time. Let's go. It's fun. It's worse craziness. And then Tom isn't even out of power yet. He just doesn't have any more power on his Asia, drain. The veto is one. The second vita was one everything dies down against super lane. It could as we need Tom to be empowered to get exciting feeds. So hopefully that is that does not remain the case. Hopefully, this new Justice league group has trust issues, and they go they go at each other, and they're all capable of hopefully, winning some competitions here. But that's that's what we've got. That's the current state of the house. All right. Yes. So. Let's get ready for the stock watch. You guys ready? Oh boy. Brent already already, but I'm going to do it. Anyway. All right. Well, let's see here. I'm going to move to the stuck watch here. And if you're watching along on YouTube, you can now see the chart made and maintained by the wonderful, Alexandra who's in the chat. And all right. Let's do this. We'll start with our HOA ch-. Tom who got straight sevens last week? For an average like that's not happening. Happening again. So. So let's talk about Tom, and I really apologize to anybody. That bought Tom's. Oh, that's that's me. Why do I do this every time like every single time? I can't get it together with the stock. The stock watch I'm so bad at buying stocks. Thank god. I don't buy any stocks in real life. What are your thoughts on Tom this week, Melissa? It like I felt so good about him last week. I really did. But and honestly like when when Cato was empower I was like, Tom got all the good ideas in Cato's stifling him, and we need to let Tom be free and do his own ideas. Because he's really he knows what's going on in the house, and he's very strategic and now I'm like, oh, my God, we need Kato to control Tom TOMS. Like got all these crazy ideas that like aren't even that crazy. But he the way he goes about them are just just not good. And he doesn't really know how to be in an alliance very well and his own alliance members don't want him in anymore and they've turned on him. And I mean, it honestly it could turn around for him. We don't know what's going to happen. But right now, it's not looking good for Tom. Unfortunately. So gosh, I give them a seven last week. And. I feel like I don't know how far wanna drop him. But I feel like I wanna drop him pretty far. I gotta give him like probably a four. All right. Well, that's high to me because I personally feel like at this point Tom might be drawing dead. I feel like getting to the end is going to be a very tall order. Everybody is after him. Everybody's coming for him. He never really had very many solid allies himself most of his connections came through Kato. Now, those connections have been severed that he is in a lot of trouble. Not to mention the fact that some people are now mad at him. They're calling him crazy. They're calling him insecure. They're they're they don't really like him as a person it's hard to even see them voting for him. If he makes it to the maybe just the underdog status of him somehow getting there by winning all the competitions or whatever it takes to get him. There would give him the win. But I just feel like it's going to be such a difficult road. Personally. I gave Tom too. Man. Maybe mine's just wishful thinking, maybe I'm hopeful that maybe a movie next week. We'll pick it up, but you might on so has has Brent's ratings, and you can also, of course, give your your own rating here as well. So I'll let you guys know what Brent. We gave in terms of rating some some of them. He gave me something to rant about for specific player as you could expect. So he wasn't very happy with Tom this week as most of us were not he gave Tom a three which is also what I would have given Tom. I think I it's interesting to me because looking at everybody else, I feel like I have other players read as a three which you're kind of like for different reasons. So Tom is still somebody who is constantly thinking he's constantly trying to find a way out of the situation that he's in. And obviously he's been overplaying that so much this week that that's why he's in the spot that he's in. But I do feel like we could end up in a scenario where if he and Kato are on the block next week. Maybe he could talk his way into staying. Maybe if his back is up against the wall and him and Cato or the final nominations he can go to whoever and say, listen, I know I messed up last week. I know that this, blah, blah, blah, blah, but Cato was a much cleaner player. You guys talked about how he had a much better h h week. He took out Ryan locked e. I've been a mess. I don't think I'm going to get the votes at the end and Cato's, obviously, I don't know Keita's one more competitions than me. I feel like he can make a case for himself. It's keep keep him in the game. I don't know that it will work. But that's the only reason that I bump him up to three instead of two. All right. Well, Brent also gave him a three so. Just going to do a quick refresh on the chart there. So there you go. Tom has fallen the audience. He's fallen pretty far. Yes. The audience decided to give Tom a four and ten does seem high to me, I think so I always with the audience, we you know that. Audience things and asked me, maybe a little biased coming into play here with Tom. He is fun. But. I don't know if he's he's four fun. It's like it's hopeful a hopeful for where it's like we've seen him do good work, and he can still do it. Again. We have faith. Everyone's just so pissed off right now, they're, you know, Natalie talking about I can't even stand to look at him. He was giving me looks whatever it was. There's not a lot of love for Tom in the house besides from from Mr. Kato kaylin. So not looking great. All right. So let's move on to Cato to five to six is last time overall average of six this week also seems to have fallen a bit here. He he is definitely gone down with the ship with Tom. He does remain a potential jury threat here. I guess although there while there's a lot while the trash talk is mostly focused on Tom. There is also some trash talk about Kato. There's not as much respect for him as there used to be. And again, his prospects moving forward are pretty low. I think he could potentially bounce back if Tom leaves, and maybe Dina leaves and he wins a veto and he's safe and then he's like the sole person. And then it's like, oh, we need to take mar or Joey I it's possible. But I do think his his his his prospects have have gone down here. So personally, I give Kato three. Melissa. What do you think? Yeah. Gosh. I I feel like previously with my previous ratings. I was thinking, you know, Tom and Kato are pretty similar, but I felt like I felt more confident with Tom's strategic ability. Whereas I felt like Kato was playing it safe and also not really making the right choices and not listening to Tom when I felt like you should have. Now, I feel like he's listening to him when he shouldn't be listening to Tom, and you know, I still don't feel very confident about his strategic abilities. But. But I feel like him and Tom have kinda even themselves out in a way because. Yeah. I don't feel. I don't really feel. I wish I could say about good about either of them. But I don't really I don't really so I'm gonna I'm gonna give Cato a four as well. Just Brent gave gave Kedah with three. So his sentiments pretty much matched patera and said I gave I would give them a four personally. I feel like I can't justify giving him the same rating as Tom who I feel like Tom needs to be a little bit lower than him. I feel like Tom is the one who completely missed everything up for their reliance. I obviously Kato is an accomplished he's kind of gone along with everything, but I feel like Kato has much much better ability to kind of rebound from this. I think all eyes are going to be on Tom next week. Like, I said there was respect for for him from like the low low in Natalie's saying like Kato did this great last week? And now Tom came in and is doing a completely awful job this week. So I don't know I feel like he still has some room to maneuver. And like I said, I just couldn't give him as low as Tom. So yes, that's why I give Thomas too. Did you the audience as you get through the audience decided to give Cato the same rating as Tom four? Oh, fun fact actually tiles slightly higher overall average than Kato. So. People feel like that hopeful the hope before that audience that audio doing the same thing as me every time, it's always so you would you would rate Tom slightly higher than Cato. kind of just because I will just because I feel like I I wouldn't I want to I want to because I feel like I have more confidence in Tom moving forward. Whereas quedo I feel like I don't have competence in his in the idyllic. He he's very susceptible to whoever he's talking to. So whoever he's talking to go along with what they're what they're saying. And what they're doing. And I don't always feel like that's best for his game. And so I just feel like I feel more confident that Tom would maybe come up with a possible good idea and stick with it. And I don't really feel that way about Kato. So there's to give credit to Tom. But at the same time, I probably wouldn't rank them higher than Cato right now. Bill hall in the truck new pan man has fallen from grace. So next up. Let's talk about Lolo. See what's up with Lola last week? I gave her for Brent gave four Melissa and the audience gave her sixes. That seems high to me. But this week. I let's let's let's shoot it to to Matt. I what what what Brent say, what do you say? Brenda actually went up a little bit this week. He gave Lolo a six he said, I've been really impressed. I'm just getting. No, Brent gave Lolo a one one said. How is this the first one of the season problem? All right. Yeah. Yes. He went down one to take the first one. Lolo cannot win period. See Melissa Jarrett when ogres tweet, I guess, the one that Taryn retweeted Taryn was right. I have it in text right here. Ten ray. I don't know if I was supposed to read that allowed. Yeah. So he gave low A one. I don't know if this is controversial. But I gave her three myself. I feel like besides the fact that she's obviously doing terrible in terms of like jury management. She's not in the worst spot in the house. Like, I feel like she's I know I'm making fun of the fact that she's not able to win any competitions. And she keeps making up a comes at coming up with excuses. But I do feel like if she needs to win. She will put that extra fight into into a competition. I feel like she's got allies around her that people. You know, the group is is in her favor right now. So I feel like while she may not be the best player. She's not in danger of going home next. I think or the week after so, I'm feeling okay. About her lunge, Eddie. But not about her endgame. So three. Yes. I am more closely aligned with Brennan here. I gave Lolo too. I feel like despite the fact that she could maybe she she's one of the more likely people to be sitting there at the end. I think she is easily the least likely person to win in the end. I think that she could maybe be taymor. And it's hard to find anybody else that she could be like, I guess there's a small chance that Ricky pisses off enough people that they're somewhat even but Lolo is so far ahead in terms of pissing people off it's hard to see how she ever went to jury vote. Not only that but she is the main target ahead of Natalie. If anybody outside of their group ever wins nature wage Lolo is the first one to go. So she's even like one of the least likely of the Ricky no low pair or trio the to even make it to the end. So I just I really see a hard time for her to to win here. What do you think it's hard for me to give her low score because I do feel like she's in a good place right now. And I feel like she's aligning yourself with good people. And she's I think she's got a good mind for strategy. Plus like, yeah, she's not winning competitions. But I think she could and I feel like her analogy release strong. So I feel like it's it's strange to me to give her a bad score right now. Just because she's all those things I said lineup to be. Oh, she's a strong player. She's doing a great job. But I just feel like her personality. Like, you guys said, it's just really abrasive. And I don't know if I see a situation where people vote for her on a normal season. Maybe I could see it because she knows she could get down to the end with someone who didn't do anything. And then it's a situation where they have to decide between, you know, being like bitter or whatever being not. But I feel like with celebrity like they can go back. They can see things it's very different. You're not. You're not secluded in jury. And I so I do think that that matter like being nice to people in the house first levity matters way more than it does in a regular season. So I it's strange situation right now where she's playing well and she's doing fine. But will she win it probably not? So. Feels weird. But I feel like I have to give her have to give her a four. I can't afford to feel is that weird for me to be like, okay. I'm marking her the same as Tom and Kato when I feel like Tom and Katie were playing way worse. But I think it's a situation is if either Tom or Kato gets out, and then they keep then the other person from their tomato alliance goes towards the end, do I see them winning overload? So yeah. So I don't know which one of the tomato alliance is going to continue forward in which one's going to be kicked out. So let's say Lolo gets to be on who does she win against. I think it's possible that you could win against winning and people like I think cost winning. Well, she it's possible. She could win against anyone. I know that sounds like crazy like it sounds nonspecific or on purpose. But I just feel like she she could win against anyone. I I don't think it's a situation where there's no possible way that she could win do icy or winning probably not, but she could and she could win against someone like deana. If if for example, Dina doesn't do anything the whole game and gets the end maybe people are like well Lolo, really tried. She liked pushed really hard. We saw how hard she was working in Dina didn't do anything. So why reward I someone who didn't do anything? I don't know. So I just think there are possibilities where she could win. But I don't think it's very likely. That's fair. I obviously jury votes Dr difficult to predict and I think that if history has anything to say, I think she'll have a very hard time. But. I would not completely discount an opposing position here. Especially when it comes to a jury vote that said, I mean, Matt you tweeted Hugh tweeted at me Hersh calling like, oh, yeah. We're just getting all of the chauvinist pays like and what she's doing on the show, and the edit like there's so much that she's doing wrong here. It's like even somebody that would want to reward game play. I feel like her game play has been terrible in the sense that game play in celebrity big brother a lot of it has to do with not being like mean for no reason. Like, there's no reason to do that. And there's no upside I noticed that she had a self-awareness when she was talking to IKEA before the season when she was talking about I'm really bad at social skills. I'm really bad at dealing with people. And I know this is gonna go bad for me. And I mean watching her on the challenge I knew that coming into the season that she was going to struggle with that she's found herself in a spot where she has allies. So she's found people that she can get along with Natalie. She she gets along with taymor to to to in extent in obviously, she's okay with Ricky. So I feel like I said this people that she can work with. But I feel like the only way at this point that she could get to the end and have a case to win as if she was able to look at people like like starting now and say like, listen, this is me this is my past. I've never been good with people. So I'm sorry. If I snap on you. I'm sorry. If I take this seriously, whatever, but she's not that she's not that person. She's never going to be the person to reflect on that. And and maybe maybe she'll have this conversation to Natalie, but she's not like open enough to share that with everybody and like help. Bring people in and understand. Why she so like this because it's really like it doesn't seem like she's meaning to act this way. It's just kind of like it's just who she is. And there's not much you can do about it. But it really isn't helping her case to be snapping on Tom every five seconds when they talk to to get that jury vote, you know, and we have gotten some confirmation in Jonathan's exit interview where he talks about Lolo definitely seemed like he was not particularly pleased with her didn't particularly like her that much. And as Brent mentioned the fact that Marissa who obviously one last season is tweeting about like when Lolo is doing her thing on on the episode, which is like crying and blaming Ryan for betraying him in all of this stuff. Marissa's like, whoa. What's up with that? Like, why is he doing that? At Jonathon at Ryan Laki. Like, you know, what these people are talking about right? Like, this is definitely happening right now. So it is still somewhat early days things could change. So here Melissa I mean, you could end up with like Natalie victim from the house, and then Natalie and say tame ours out of the house, and they lead the charge to say, let's get our girl the win. You you never know what could happen. But you know. You know, who knows who knows? Well, the audience is even higher on level ten Melissa God, they gave her a five. I was considering giving her a five, and then I was like, okay that's going to be too too much. I think you guys would have fainted very very barely make makes the five. It's a four point five four. I just want to talk to Brent right now. Who's listening not listening live? But when he's listening back bread, calm down. We'll we'll we'll get through this like, I know you're heated right now. And he's probably already like like what is wrong with you people and the frustration because we are talking about she's not looking great. But brand, but he calls he can help Brent out. Very clear right now Brent is strongly disagreeing. Does. He's listening. Yeah. We've we've got words audience we need to talk. I feel the one ratings. Yeah. I feel like maybe you're secretly working against us. I feel like we know that we're lying to each other right now. And I just feel like maybe we need to be doing some back doors. All right. Let's talk about Natalie. Eva marie. No longer allowed to wear bikinis. Now drops are rating down a little bit. I don't know if she's going to be able to win without him. I noticed that we did that whole like it was a forty minute obtained the only thing I saw people talk about. Like, I said Natalie's not worth a lot to wear a bikini. What's? If that's what the people want to know about bikinis. So let's talk about Natalie Melissa will start with you. What what are your thoughts on Natalie? I feel really good about Natalie. I think that she's in a good position. And especially because I feel like she has some meat shelter in front of her. She's first of all Lolo like we talked about everyone's gonna wanna get Lillo out before Natalie. People don't they look at the two of them as a pair. But but Lolo is the main target out of the two of them. And also, she's got Ricky there people are looking at Ricky and thinking he's suspicious and all that. But I'm not hearing so much talk about Natalie as a person I've heard about okay, no, low or whatever would lay Natalie as an entity with other people, but you don't really hear people saying specifically, they need to target Natalie. And I also think that she's doing a good job of kind of staying out of a lot of the the mean-spirited drama, which will then get hurt with. We'll get certain people in trouble later with the vote. So I feel really really good about what she's doing in the game. And also, she just one that be to-. And showed that she has competition chops. So that could go well for her moving forward. So. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna give her an eight mates. All right up from your seven last week. Matt what did Brennan think what do you think Brent gave Natalie innate as well? I personally I give her a seven. But I mean, we're in the same ballpark here bulletin pressed with her game specifically he said, I continue to believe in this girl. She's in a final two with an absolute goat. And I don't think that she would be victim if they were nominated together, she still has a tendency to say stupid things on the feeds that celebrities at home might hold against her. But luckily, there's other people there that are doing much worse. So I pretty much of a fully on board with that. I feel like given this group. I mean, if you're looking at this group of players just comparing it maybe I could give her like a nine because she is like far above all of these other people right now. But I mean, I'm trying to be a little bit more realistic. I feel like she's she's playing well, I just want to get ahead of a head of myself and give her too much credit. I think it might just be the fact that there's so many other. Lead players around her that are making her look so good. But I kept expecting that as you know, Brent pointed out that like she might say things here there that that could bring her down. I feel like she hasn't actually gone over the line or anything yet. So I feel like she's still doing. Well. I'm not too too worried about her like I am especially with like a low low. So, you know, seven eight Brent gave her the so yeah, I agree with Brent's assessment. But I I am not grading on a curve. So despite the fact that Natalie is in a in one of the best positions in the game. I have to give myself room for when people actually start to play. Well, so I wouldn't call what Natalie's doing that. Quite yet as as a pointed out, she's making some steaks here. And there in terms of jury management in terms of how she's operating in the house. I actually don't like that. She won this veto. I think that it it. It's not good for her that she's now one more competitions than Lolo, technically. Because now they've won one wondering enough. But it's still it's not good that she's shown herself to be a competition threat. And it's also especially the fact that she was the last person on the wall, and she dropped like she gave it to Cato. And the fact that she was like all about this idea of let's not even tell Tom what we're doing with the veto that was like, so just unnecessary. You don't need to be doing that. It's just seems mean-spirited. I don't like that at all. So personally, I gave her a six to give you some spoiler alert. Spoiler alert that is the highest rating. I've given anyone this week is going to be the highest rating. I give everyone anyone this week. It doesn't go above six. And that's because again, I'm not grading on a curve. If I was then she would be up there in terms of in comparison to the rest of the house, but six is like all right. You're playing one of the best games in this in this probably four average house. So there you go to above that. And I don't want to forget like the points like things that might be like going negative for her. There was the fact that maybe she's not as great as at on the spot lying as I would like because you know, there was the whole thing yesterday where she came into the room, and she was like. We haven't even talked about it for like the whole day. We don't know what you know Lolo. And I haven't discussed it and Tom's like you've had three hours. Like, what do you mean? You haven't talked about anything and Tom was also angry at her today because apparently during the veto competition. He kept no Natalie kept calling Tom out to like go again, it was like a knockout style. And so I guess Tom is like well aware of the fact that Natalie wanted Tom to go out in that competition. So I don't know if you know Kato wins next week if they specifically want Natalie, I don't know I feel like there are flaws in her game. Yes. The audience was actually with me on this one the audience gave Natalie a six. So there you go that's going to to six to eight. It's going to average out to a seven which is the same as last week. All right. Let's move on to Ricky who got three sixes from us and seven from the audience last week. Let's see how Ricky fared this time. It's interesting because the last week Ricky was doing very well. And then his thing with Tom happened like halfway through the day before the round table. So a lot of the audience votes. I think came before his spat with Tom, and then we rated him after and it was sort of tentative like is this regular thing with Ricky is this gonna be just a blip on the radar, and it kind of turned out to be a little bit of both where it's not really his personality. In fact, I'd say like ninety to ninety five percent of the time. He is totally chill and like probably the best player in the house. And then that extra five percent of the time. He's like bottom third, and he just gets weird. And it's and it's it's hard to to really. Get a full understanding of what Ricky is doing in the house personally. I feel similarly to to Ricky as I do with with Natalie where I think that he is playing I think Ricky is probably playing the best game of like ignoring everything else. I think Ricky's playing the best game of big brother where he's like positioning himself. Really? Well, he was positioned in between two pairs. And then he. Like was potentially endanger he had allies protect him. And then was able to shift and now he's again in a position where he's got a pair in front of him. And he's got other. He's got Joey and tame Mark were both either wildcards or bigger threats than him. I think Ricky is just positioned so well in this game. But this weird nece that he has is definitely weighing him down. I don't know how the jury will see that. I think that they will respect his game play. But he might have pitched some of them off over the course of the game that they might not want to vote for him. It's hard to tell because he does come off pretty well in the episodes. I think it's just these little moments in the house that might drag him down. So personally, I also gave him a six here. One of the better positions in the house. But again, kind of kind of weird overall, so Melissa what are your thoughts on Ricky? Yeah, I feel similar to you in that. There's that weird little five percent area. Where you're like, what's what's going? On there is he making people angry is he going to mess up his game by causing some sort of rift between him and someone. We don't know. And I do think I do think he's in a very similar position that he was last week. There's still people who are thinking that he's a threat and that he needs to go and he was being targeted this week, which is not good for him. But the fact that he was able to use his allies to get him out of that and still have people wanting to work with him and have basically Lolo and Natalie choose him over Tom and Kato that I think goes to show that there are people in his corner. And I think that's really important. So I'm going to give him a seven. Brent Brent went with a five. He does sentiments were pretty much. Exactly what Taryn said he's he happy that he has allies at one them in the game. He said that candies eviction might not help him. But we did see you know, as as recent as an hour ago. He was talking to Tom Cato about I want candy to go. Because I think she's a little too close to tame are. So I mean, I did think for a while that the tame are not the the candy and Ricky connection might be something because they play chess together every day. They're always hanging out and talking, but I guess Ricky's just focusing on the game. He can't he doesn't talk game to anybody which we'll get into. But he wants the people around him that are going to help him move forward in the game. So I guess candies not really offering him much. So he's find to see her go this week. Personally. I would have given him a six same thing pretty much as the five. I think he's been doing. Well, I think he my only issue with him is I think he's probably. Not somebody who's going to find an easy way to the end. I've never have. We seen him study. I don't really know we have or not I don't think. So. But I feel like nobody's going to wanna pull him the final competition big brother celebrity if it's the same as that you pull one person to the final two with you. I feel like the target on Ricky's back, especially from all this Tom influence of Ricky's a big threat. He has to go is going to be. So massive that when the time comes to pick somebody to go to the end, even if he's still there, I think he will have to win or he will not make the final two. Yeah. It's interesting to think about the candy thing. I think candy was somebody that he could've used but candy doesn't seem very capable of winning competitions at least so far. So she's not really valuable valuable to him in that way. And then she's not somebody that he should be sitting next to in the end because I think that candy would probably win. She's just so respectable that I feel like he would probably lose to her. So I can kind of understand why he would want to to show her the door here. Especially leaving Joey who's this big threat? And and now to tame our who's another person that the women can't stand. I think the Joey that Ricky's best shot to get to the end is that somebody along the way takes a shot at low and Natalie, which will I mean odds are more likely that it happens than that. It doesn't happen. And they would take the shot at the women before they took the shot at Ricky probably. So if that's the case, if one of them leaves, I think the other one takes Ricky hands down they both talked about how they think they can beat Ricky in the end that they think that he's pissed off too many people. And so I think that if if Natalie leaves, and it's Ricky and Lolo, I think they're taking each other. And I think Ricky wins if low leaves it's Natalie in Ricky, and I think that's a pretty good battle there at the end. I think that it would be it would be a bit of a toss up, and I'm not sure who would take the win at that point. So either way I think that he's not in too bad shape there. And then also there's something to be said about if they make it. The final four, and it's taymor or it's or it's Joey or whoever I think that if both of the women are still there, then I think there's going to be this sort of idea of well, they're gonna take each other so Ricky and whoever else we should take each other too. So I do think he has some outs. But I do also take the point that it's not quite as clear, it's not quite as easy as the women. Have it at the moment. Yeah. His his smooth ways of talking being calm all the time. You know, he he. You know, he he found out that the back door plan existed. And he was you know, we saw the passive aggressive tone in his voice when he went to talk to Tom in Kato, but I don't know of Tom and Kate O knew that Ricky was in on the plan. So when he approached them to say, so what are you guys thinking how you doing? What's the plan air, we still good for the same thing? He never went to them with any kind of aggression. He didn't go, you know, talking to Tom the same way that he's been he's been correcting himself ever since he found out the Tom didn't like Ricky vibe towards him ever since Lolo told him about that he hasn't been that way towards Tom. So I feel like he's able to to adjust how he is behaving. I guess, but you know, you never you really never know given how good we thought he was doing last week. And then a few days later things turned around. So who knows how it will actually end up. But I think he I think he has the makings to be a good player. Yes. All right. The audience agreed with me they gave him a six I've found. Okay. Fair enough audience. He was saying in the chat earlier that this is going to probably be the lowest average ranking of like maybe any week in stock watch history. And I definitely can see that happening. I also like following the storyline of Melissa being low key annoyed that the audience is not agreeing with her and last Alaska. Little upset. I'm not gonna lie that was kind of my thing. And I feel like they're put up its picking numbers that are different than mine. So, you know, it's a little full disheartening to see them turn on you like that. Well, what are you going to do? Let's see mad about it. I'm gonna be mad about it. Let's move onto taymor. I'll start at Samar. I gave her to last week. And I'm not going to change it this week. I'm going to give her a again, I think that I do think that getting the fan vote helps a little bit in terms of her endgame potential, and it certainly keeps her safe for a couple of weeks. But just the way that she plays the game. It's so hard to find a way for her to even get to the end without just like winning her way all the way there. And then even if she does get there, it's really hard to see her win. It's just it's I think that she is one of the least likely winners at this point. And you know. You know, I think it goes to show where when Tom talked to Joey about having the power Joey was able to completely convince Tom one hundred percent. I do not have the power. You should even in fact work with me, Tom then had a similar conversation with with taymor and tame ours response was wo. Why are you threatening me? Oh my God. This is terrible. And their relationship just continues to spiral and spiral. And now everyone is pretty convinced. The taymor has the power. She has not been able to hide that fact, and even she just formed an alliance, and they're already wanting to take a shot at her as as soon as they feel comfortable enough to do. So I think that she might have a path which is that there's always one person that they need to get out before taymor. And then taymor somehow gets there in the end and is sitting next to Lolo. I'm not sure exactly how that happens. But if it does then I think that she's got a shot but other than. That it's just really hard to find the scenario where she went. So I gave her a to once again, Matt what are your thoughts? We got a four from Brent he feels like she's mellowed out a little bit. And he thinks that she's still can get to the end and win. But she has no final two or real allies because Lolo and Natalie keep her at an arm's length I also would be giving her a four this week. I feel like I agree that she's like calm down a little bit. You know last time we checked in with her. She was crying, and, you know, having a freak out in a ones e for three days straight. So obviously an improvement from where we were there. I feel like we might see like like it's not it's not a one to one. But like maybe a little bit of a comparison to like the Josh thing if she can get to the end and pull off the win because it's like, no one took Josh seriously the entire season, you know, he was always such a wild card, and while Josh's name didn't come up as we have to get this guy out of here. Nearly as much as tame ours. Does. It's still a situation where if this person can keep surviving, and they end up in the end people are still entertained by her like Tom is having an argument with her. And he's like, you're funny. Like, you're keeping me laughing. Like, this is great television. I understand what you're here for your here for entertainment. I understand what you do. And you do it. Well, so I don't know if she's actually hurting anybody's feelings, I feel like everyone's just like, yeah. That's the mar-. If anything I think, you might end up in a scenario where she gets to the end, the people who don't want her to win the most or the people who are in her room, the Ricky Lolo and Natalie who were like, no, no, no, no, no. We did all the work. And we carried her to the end. So there's no chance in hell that this girl is getting the win. But I don't think she's during dead nearly as much as like Lolo is. I would give her a for Bill. Bill hall on the chat says. Yeah, she's common. The way that negative five degrees in the midwest is now warm there you go. So it's an improvement for for her. Yeah. Melissa. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I'm gonna give or as well because I gave her a three last week. And I do feel like she's I felt like last week. We she was done for. I thought she was going to go out right away. Didn't think there was any chance that she was saying she was making too many enemies just wasn't going to happen for. But she I feel like she's a better place. Now that she was last week. She has that power which is going to keep her around for awhile. And you know, I do think that she's got she has that new alliance. Even though they she then their list. But they have bigger fish to fry right now. Whereas I feel like before it was easier for people to be like, let's just get taymor out. Let's get her out like she's causing too many issues. Let's get her out. Now, I feel like even though she's still causing some issues. There are more. There are bigger threats that need to be dealt with. I so I feel like with that extra time maybe something could happen for her. And I just feel like I I'm not as worried about her immediately leaving the house as I was last week. So that's four. All right. Well, the audience was actually even higher than than us on the audience gave her a again, it was barely five. But it wasn't five. So there you go a five four team are from the audience to this starting to understand why you were telling more people to vote at the beginning of this. And maybe bring the averages back to a more reasonable number. Well. All of the ratings have been four five or six at this point. Maybe a late rush from like the people who are like actually watching this right now, and maybe more reasonable in terms of voting. Yeah. Really really just trying to get a wider variety here. I mean, even if it has to go down, which I think it probably should like variety of down ratings. But what are you going to do? So let's move onto Joey got some interesting stuff to talk about with Joey because he had an average of three last time. But I think his game has definitely improved since then Matt what are your thoughts on Joey in what we're Brent thoughts. We both rated Joey a five for this week, which is definitely up from wherever I would have had him last week. Brent said he's a clear threat to win. They're making a mistake of keeping him this week. I'm still waiting for Joey taymor alliance. LL the one that we all need. I think that he will get taken out maslow's style. But as for this week he's played about as well as Joey Lawrence can play which again, I do agree with. I think like we've been saying earlier in this podcast as well as this morning that he did well for himself over the past twenty four hours, and if he can keep that going and keep reinforcing with everybody that with this new team fund two point. Oh that I am on board to get these guys out next week. Keep me, I'm. A strong competitor. And I'm with you guys. You know, he might be able to to stay in the house in a spot where he definitely should not be staying in the house. All right, Melissa. What do you think? Yeah. I know I'm in. I'm in an agreement with that. Because I would give Joey a five as well. I feel like he did good work this week. But I'm not totally sold on his ability. I don't totally know if he's invested and that this is going to keep up, but the fact that he was able to switch basically flip the house and convince everyone to work with him. When basically no one wanted to work with him. I think that huge he was essentially a Dead Man Walking at the beginning. And now now I think he has a shot. So I feel a lot better about him. Do I feel stupor great about him? No, not really. But I definitely feel there's a market improvement. So they five from Melissa as well. I'm in agreement. I also gave him a five this week. Finally, we're all agreeing on something Joe Jordan together. So yes, I agree. I think the Joey has shown incredible improvement, and I think he's really showing what he's capable of here. Honestly, I think that he is capable of playing one of if not the best game in the house if he had been applying himself all along he just hasn't been. But now that he's in the game. I think that that is definitely a sign of danger for everyone else, he's capable of winning competitions. However, I don't think he's super capable of winning the mental competitions the quiz competitions toward the end of the game. And I think that's his real downfall. I'd honestly I'd give him a six probably a six, maybe even a seven if I felt confident in his competition ability at the end, but I don't and I also don't see who takes him to the end. So I feel like that's his biggest weakness here is how does Joey get to the final two. I think once he gets there. I think he wins. I think he'd beats most people, but I- hard to find a scenario where he's able to beat people who are studying successfully. Whereas he's been studying unsuccessfully or not studying, and it's hard to find a person that would willingly take Joey to the end unless they unless they felt comfortable that he didn't care enough, which is possible. And I think that's his win condition. Is that somebody gets there like tail mar or or a Ricky Lewis and Natalie lists, low low or something like that? And they feel like well, Joey doesn't really care. He never really wanted to be here. I can easily beat him. Right. And then they pull him up and they find out there very mistaken. But it's hard it's harder to find that scenario for him. So it's down to a five because of that. We'll see how it goes over the course of the next week. But but for now a five from me, and yes, the audience concurs with all of us here straight five. Impressive. Joey couldn't even remember how he got on the block. So I mean him getting to the final competition remembering like statue in the whole season really seems out of the question. Yeah. So let's talk about candy who got straight fours last time an average of four dollars for her shares. And it's not looking great for candy here things not looking very positive in candy's direction. Melissa. What are your thoughts? Yeah. It's not great. I was thinking, you know, I'm just going to give her a four game. Really hasn't changed at all. She's just really done nothing. But then I remembered. Oh, yeah. Wait, she's on the blocking probably gonna go home, especially birds sitting you're giving Joey straight five, so yeah, she's likely going home. So even though she's not her game. Really hasn't changed at all since she walked into the house, it it matters now because she's on the block and probably going to go home. And it's unfortunate that our game really hasn't changed because she doesn't seem to really I just don't really feel like there's not much fight in her. And there's I was happy to see. Joey, and I feel like I'm not seeing enough of that and her so. I mean, but here's the thing. This could all be moot. Because it could be that. We're sitting here saying, wow, Joey, he's doing so great. And then five minutes from now, we'll end whatever end this podcast in Joey will be target number one again and candy will be safe. We don't know. So I think this is a situation where candy is for sure out the door give her a one. I don't think that's that's the case here. But at the same time, it's not looking good. So I'm going to give her three. I was I was thinking about giving her a three because I agree. I think that she has a chance to stay. And I think that if she does stay she is one of the more likely people to win if she is sitting in the end, but I was thinking like, okay. Even if the vote does flip this week where does she go from here? And it's so hard to find she has no allies except for maybe taymor like taymor is her best ally. At this point, and is really. Larry, she's really not. She is. She is what we all were saying Joey was she's not playing the game. She doesn't really have like she wants to be there. And it's it's sad. Because I think that she's probably one of the smartest people in the house. But she's just kind of like she's not invested. She just doesn't seem to be doing anything. And so honestly, even though I think that she could win in the end and that she'd be really well liked. It's like how does she even get there? And would they would they really respect that like she's been absolutely nothing. I even completely short at this point. So. Add onto the fact that she is probably going home this week. I did I I took it down from three and I gave her a two. Candy. I think candy is a very smart successful businesswoman. And I think that that is why she's in the big brother house. I think you know, it seems like it came up last minute the opportunity to go on the show. And she was like, I don't know what this is. But the money looks good enough, and I'll have to do with sitting in house for a couple of weeks in play a game that might be fun. She never once seemed like she was like she never seemed like she was really here to play the game. She had a strategy going into like, well, I want to get in the big room and talk to a lot of people. But that completely fizzled out. She hasn't done that at all. She sits around the house all day long. She's playing cards with DNA at the kitchen table or she's in a room. And I don't know how she can talk for the entire day like she can talk for for twelve hours a day and have not one of those conversations be about the game. Not one of them. She'll play chess with Ricky she'll she just does not talk about game. At all. You know? She was crazy how it is not talk about game. How can you just literally live in the house? Like, that's really all. She Jaas just write anything and the house. How is that possible? When you would think that. Lighting ill. You would think that after like at least two weeks of this of the game happening all around her that she would be interested in in. What's going on? Like, she doesn't even talk to anybody. Like, oh this ally. Like, she probably has no idea that this that there wasn't alliance that it's blowing up like there's so much going on in the house around her that we're we're eating up, and like she doesn't know any of what's going on because she just sits playing cards all day. So it's sad to see that. This is the way that her game has gone and agree. I don't know how she's getting to the end because she's not working with anybody. She's not trying to work with anybody her strategy or not strategy her her ability to just be friendly with everybody was going a decent way for a while. But it just this is the kind of game play that can get you caught in a sticky situation where she's at right now because if you end up on the block, and nobody cares enough to save you you're going to go home, which seems to be the case for this week. So not great for candy. I don't know if even said the numbers, but Brenton Gifford to I had her at a three, but I just talked myself down to a two so. It looks like to see Alexander just asked what principal Rousseau. At the two. Well, the audience finally broke broke the trend here and gave candy three very very barely. It's a three point four nine is why. Finds just just makes a three there for candy from the audience, which is going to complete a low rating here still not quite as low as it could have been, but but it's three average. Well, let's move onto the final person here Dina. Let's talk about DNA. I gave her a four last week. Brent gave her a four Melissa gave her five the audience gave her a three. So the audience was the lowest on Dina by far this week myself. I feel like Dina has proved I do I feel like I like what she did last week when she went on the block, and she managed to sort of talk both sides into thinking that they could work with her. She does have allies the allies are Tom and Kato, which is not great. But Tom and Cato are much bigger threats than her at the moment. She has moved down the hitlist to at least after candy, Tom and Kato, and it's it's even gone. To the point where they've been talking about taymor before deny that leaves DNA in the final five if Dina's in the final five, it's not like she can't win a mental competition. I think she could. And I think the DNA is the number one jury threat in the house. I think that if she gets to the end she wins hands down. No question. So I think the fact that she even gets close there is kind of scary for for for her winning capability. So personally, I gave her a four last week. I do think it's imp- thinks she's improved. I think she's willing to play a little bit. But she's also super nice. And I think she's gonna get there in the end. So I gave her a five this week and the longer she stays in the game the more likely the scores to go up because she really just don't let her anywhere near the end. It's what I have to say, Matt, what do you think? Yeah. I also would have read a for. Well, no, I'm sorry. You gave her a five. But I read a four I feel she has stayed pretty consistent. Brent gave her a three. He said he's pretty much saying that you know, a while. She's still there kind of thing. Like, you know, she's playing a decent game that could get her to the end or not not a decent game. I don't know. I'll read it for exactly what he said. So I don't mess it up. She's still there. I guess at three I think she could possibly win if she gets to the end, but she has no allies. However, she does get along with people. And that that alone moves her ahead of people like Tamar. So I mean, I'm on board with that as well. I think she's kind of falls into the same kind of boat as Ricky or Joey where I don't know if she's getting to the final two if she doesn't win that competition to get to get her there. I feel like she could end up at final five, but maybe going out at final five because it's like all right. Everybody loves her. We can't you know, there were still the fear last week that the girls were talking about she's kind of just like Barrosa, everybody likes her and she's not bothering anybody. So I feel like they still know they have. To get her up before the end, but they're still so many bigger targets of her on, right? Melissa. Yeah. I I'm going to stick with my rating from last week, which is a five though, I do think she she is in a better position this week than she was last week. I still feel like she's not doing anything differently than she was last week. I think she has a good chance of winning. I just I agree with everything you guys said, but I just don't feel comfortable giving her a six I feel like that's just too high for someone who's really not doing anything in the only reason we're thinking that is because people just aren't even thinking of her, you know, like I just feel like the reason why she's not considered a big threat and isn't like near the beginning of the boot order, whatever is because they're just like not thinking about her because she's not doing anything. So it's I think that she has a good chance of winning. But at the same time, I don't feel comfortable giving her a six and the saying that she's playing good game. Just because I don't feel like she's doing anything. So I'm going to give her a five, and I do hope though that she picks up her game for next week. And. Really starts playing. Maybe candy gone. Maybe she'll she'll have to talk to somebody else. She spends her whole day talking to candy and playing card games with candy. So maybe once candy's gone, she'll gravitate more towards Kato, and Tom and maybe learn something about how to play. Yeah. The CIA is calling Brent out for apparently saying. Aimar, but in facts gave taymor higher rating than Dina. I don't know if he got his numbers wrong. Or if this is just Brent being Brent. Just read, but I had a my phone. So there, hey, where the audience gave Dina a four this week the audience not quite as high as Melissa or myself, but not quite as weirdly low as print given his description. I feel like I mean, maybe he said he said it was up three probably around the same thing. Three or four. It's you know, she she's okay. But she's not doing anything to impress anyone. Yeah. This is this is the moment where Brent was here. I call him out. And he'd be like. Oh, yeah. Well, that's what I thought. So. All right. So there you go. That's the stock watch. We've got one seven average in Natalie. We've got one six here with Ricky then one five with Joey the rest are below average Tom with three Cato with four Lolo with three taymor with four candy with three and Dino with four. So there it is. I'm probably I'm probably with you guys here. This is probably the lowest average rating of an entire cast. They've ever had so far. Someone's gotta win someone has to win this season. And I don't know if it'll be one of the lower rated people or the higher rated, but someone's got to do it anyway. Hey, Casey, one, I think with a with a solid average of six I think that was right about where she should have been you. You can win with a six or four. Sure. Most of most of our players right now are below six. So there you go. Let's talk about before we get into the buying and selling I want to talk a little bit about some of these other questions that I had. One of which were the jury vote predictions wanted to get into who do you think? What order do you think that the jury would prefer to vote in? So who are they most likely to vote for if they're sitting in the end versus who they least likely to vote for this is a much easier question to answer this time around because you can just drag and drop instead of having to do like numbers for everything and those dumb last time. Now, it's easy. And we're going to keep asking this question as we go along very happy to have it in this in this format. So I was Jonathan who do we think Jonathan is most likely to vote for versus who do we think he is least likely to vote for? I think that I think that we would probably all have the same. I two answers in the audience certainly had the first two neck and neck here. Dina and Joey were at the top of the list of very very close together. Yes. I did that I have Joey over Dina. But I could see it either way. Yes. So those we definitely the more likely people. He's going to vote for down at the bottom. You've got Lolo the very bottom followed by taymor. Followed by candy. Interestingly my exact order. Yes. Exactly what I ever done. So candy. I think probably make sense with Jonathan and particularly feel like he is probably not one of the more likely people to reward candy for not doing much in the game. I think he would want to reward somebody that did something but also didn't offend him. And so that's not quite candy. I think that I personally think that Jonathan probably be more likely to reward somebody like Ricki Ricki is about halfway through here on the list. It goes Dina Joey than Tom according to the audience, which I'm not as sure about anymore. But if Tom got there, I think he'd probably get some votes followed by Natalie than Ricky, then Kato candy Tamar, low low, I feel like that's a pretty good list at this point. Yeah. It's more. So the top of the listen the bottom of the list that is really what I what I was paying attention. When. So then the other one was Ryan who is Ryan likely to vote for and Joey ran away with this. Now say jelly for. Sure. Yes. Yes. And once again taymor down at the bottom. However, while Lola was at the bottom of the Jonathan one she was actually in second for Ryan. A lot of people think that Ryan will stay team America, or whatever it is team USA and in America. I should vote for low. I personally, I think Lolo is high here. I really don't know if he would vote Lolo, I really feel like like watching back what she was saying on the episodes talking to Jonathan and Marissa, and I really I don't see it. I know I could see that especially. Yeah. Like, you guys were talking about with the Marissa tweets, and the fact that she's hanging out with Jonathan and I'm sure Jonathan shocking Ryan, maybe they're hanging out together. Who knows I could see a lot of influence coming from Marissa, and Jonathan and this one, and I just feel like I feel like I could see him feeling betrayed by Lolo. So I I don't know if he would vote for her. I mean, maybe if it came down to something, but I don't know. I don't really see it. And I don't even see it. As like would Ryan be bitter. I don't think Ryan is bitter. But I think now I think that when he talks to Jonathan Jonathan's going to be like, it's not about being bitter. It's about the fact that she's played terribly that she shouldn't be doing these things. That's poor game play. And you know, I think that that's going to really shine through with somebody like with like Ryan and Jonathan. So I do think that Lolo is a bit high here. She is followed by Tom. According to these writings, Tom, again, a maybe a little bit high here, maybe a little bit of people like, Tom, they hope that he'll get some votes. I don't know. Yeah. My top three for this would have been a besides Joey also Cato a Natalie because I feel like he's going to have some respect for Kato who made the move happen. You know, there was no bitter feelings towards Cato think as he went out. And I think Natalie is somebody who said in his exit interviews or maybe like right away that he was saying he thought she was playing well unless I missed remembering. So I feel like she's up there. And I feel like the audience is a little too low on his relationship with taymor. I feel like the two of them really. They got along in the house, and I feel like she was upset to a victim. It wasn't like in a very obvious relationship that they had. But anytime that Ryan would come by taymor would be very happy to see him. Like I thought that they got along. Well, and I think that you know, she should be definitely not last on his list. Yeah. I had Kato higher the audience had Kato third to last. They had team are. And Kato I had candy a bit higher. I'd Kato a little bit higher. I think that I think that Dina's a potential one here for for Ryan, especially with being so close to Jonathan. I think I would drop Tom down a bit. So it's it's a little all over the place. We'll probably have a better idea. Once we get some more interviews with Ryan and as the season goes along and all of that. But interesting thing to queue up here at the start of talking about the it really just highlights fact that Joey is on the block this week. And for both of the jury members we have Joey at number one as the biggest threat to get their votes. So, you know, while while it looks like they might keep him in the house. It really could backfire if if they keep them into long the final four and just just, you know, Melissa, I want you to be thinking about your buys in your cells as we as we go through this submitted. Okay. Okay. Good perfect. Okay. All right. That's that's great. I'll go first then because. I'm realizing it's it would be very difficult for me to do this. I'm reading these days. Anyway, how would you rate this week in big brother? I asked you this question. I asked the same question last week, very curious to know the results, I did receive fewer submissions in the form this week not by a whole lot. But by a little bit. And I saw some sort of I saw a little bit of apathy in the response to posting the form like I just don't have it in me Taryn just this season. I'm not sure I like we're talking about game play. But there's not well not a lot of it. So I was curious to see how this compared to the question from last week last week. There was an average of just over seven as the score for the week in big brother this week. It's it's a bit lower. It's toward the six point five. So it doesn't dramatically dropped. And I don't think it should have. I think that the Cato week was certainly very bad. But this week has been pretty fun with Tom in power, but it is on a downward trend, and I hope that we can keep. The energy up as the season continues because I don't want. Hopefully, this downward trend does not stay a downward trend or you guys thoughts though is on this week of big brother, Melissa. Yeah. I heal. I I don't feel as invested as I did last celebrity big brother, and it's hard for me to pinpoint why. But I do think that it has to do with the personalities. I just don't feel as entertained when I'm watching the live feeds there's like, obviously, there's some decent, you know, strategy and gameplay going on. And there's like some fun twists and turns. But I just felt like last season. There were so many fun personalities in the house. I just never felt bored. Because even if they weren't talking strategy. It was like super fun to watch. I mean 'cause like brandy was always causing trouble like, but silly trouble not like drama trouble necessarily. And Omarosa was always just so interesting and intriguing and James Maslo was in there. And I felt like he was entertaining them Ross Marissa together, they were just hilarious. So I just felt like there was always something going on. And in addition to great game play and this season. I just feel like there isn't as much fun involved and not. Only that there's not as much great strategic game play. So I just feel like we're not really getting. We're not really getting the things that I really want, and I'm not super interested in these like these like fights where it's like, you know, I feel threatened and all this stuff when it's just really made out of nothing. I don't know. So it's been it's not as good for me as last season, so far, and I know we're only supposed to be talking about the week, and I'm kind of extrapolating that into the whole season. But still that that's how I feel and I've been thinking that so you know, and trying to figure out why I feel that way. And I still don't really know. But. I gave this week a seven, which I I don't know if that seems to hire anything, but I feel like I expected it when I first got the notification when I woke up the other day about Tom one h I was like all right. Well, this would have been like a three, but it ended up with with a lot of chaos with a lot of an alliance that we thought was going to run the table ended up turning on itself. And now, we don't know what's going to happen next. So I feel like there's been a lot like it's completely surpassed my expectations for the week. I totally agree with the fact that I was feeling like last season was so good. So entertaining with the people that were in the house in this season. I'm like, I don't know if we have that we have candy, and we have DNA playing cards every day and Ricky might be good at the game. But he's kind of like putting me asleep in you know, it just felt like there wasn't as many people to root for and whatnot. And I still kind of feel like that. But I feel like they're getting better. I feel like last season. We had a big alliance where we had the Ross and Marissa combined with brandy and Ari. You know, they were kind of running things for a while. Eventually they turn on brandy. And you know, it's like they were picking pieces off while they still had other people to get out this season. They have a big alliance. And now, it's breaking apart. Now, we almost have two sides. So I feel like that's a lot more interesting from a strategy perspective unless he's in was so I'm not as down as I was a couple of days ago. I I can't actually remember what I gave the season or the week the previous week. Maybe the chat remembers, I think it was maybe four I feel like that might have been what it was. I hope it is. Because I gave this week five. I feel like it was better than the first week in the sense that it was not quite as like ridiculous in terms of how embarrassing it was with production. I think the feeds were slightly worse. But the episodes were slightly better. And we did get some great Tom stuff. I felt like the Cato week was just super slow and boring though, and overall it's just like I'm kind of losing hope in people ever playing anything close to good in that's kind of a little bit depressing. But it is I still think it was at least a little bit better than last week for me because of Tom and in the shenanigans that he got into so I would give it a five still overall for this season. Personally. It's just not really clicking with me a whole lot. But I'm hope. That that it does as we move forward. But man between the way the episodes have been edited between the poor game play. And I don't know. It's just it's still fun to talk about of course. But not now my favorite, and I have been preferring the first celebrity season to this one so far, but we'll see and it was fun to track with Russ. It was fun to see like we knew he was playing a great game to advance himself in his alliance all the way to the end and get himself a final two spot. But it was like the middle of the game. Where we started tracking. All right. We'll maybe he's not gonna win because he's not doing the best jury management. It's hard to track like who we should be paying attention to the most for that for the season because there is no Ross there's people that are playing well. But like as as we've seen tonight the highest that we have is a six for anybody. So it really could go any which way. And I don't know I feel like this next h will be really telling of how the end game goes. Yeah. And it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that when I'm unable to rate anyone higher than a six that. I'm kinda down on it. Because I watched the game. I watched the show for the strategy for the game as much as I can like talk and love the drama of it all as well. Like the real love for that. I have comes from the strategy, and I'll still watch and love me brother as I always do. But I also love writing things, and I like to be honest in my rating. So that's my viewpoint. Let's talk about favorite players. I asked the question ranked the players from your favorite to your least favorite last week. It was it was Tom. Bye bye landslide. He had about fifty percent of the people said he was their favourite. He had a pretty substantial lead over Natalie who is in second place this week. Tom has again one. Yeah. Then basically the same same margin here. Almost fifty percent of the people said he was their favorite followed by Natalie about thirteen or fourteen percent said Natalie was their favourite. The average though is a little closer than that. Number implies taymor has a little bit more people who are love her. She has about seventeen percent of people say that she is their favorite, but lower overall average the Natalie because I think that she is a bit more polarizing tame are one of the highest percentages for the lowest score. So. Explains why she got the power, obviously, if she had the one of the highest percentages of people who put her at the top. I mean, personally, I put her at the top. So all those people who who are saying tamers, my favourite, and they were hash tagging CB taymor. That's that's driving that. Yeah. So just just so the total score that survey monkey gives me here. Tom is at a seven point four five Natalie at a six point one six taymor at five point seven nine. Those are the top three Tom with about fifty percent of first places Natalie with fourteen percent taymor seventeen percent. Last place. Ninth-place Tom had four percent of people said he was their least favourite two percent of people said Natalie was released favorite and about fourteen percent said taymor was there at least favorite so very polarizing K mart. Yeah. Why gap? Yes. Another interesting thing to note here Joey was last in the previous one he was just under Dina. He was the least favorite house guest in this week's poll. He was forth right after taymor. He jumped up in the ratings a good underdog, and he has. So there you go DNA remains down at the bottom followed by candy and Lolo Kato is down there as well. And then you've got Ricky kind of inbetween that bottom group and Joey heading four when people start to break out. It's really Cato Lolo, candy and Dana all pretty low at the bottom, and then Ricky starts to break out, then Joey and so on and so forth. So interesting thing to note there any any surprises there. Not really I feel like that's where I suspected. It would go. I I'm not surprised, but it is interesting to hear how Joey's position has changed. And I really do think the underdog. Thing is real. I think it's totally real because I feel it too. And when someone's an I mean when Ryan locked he was the underdog we were all rooting for him and the week before he was in power. We were like, okay. He's choose powerful too strong. I feel like that happens every single time. It's like, you know, I mean, it's it's a very interesting dynamic that happens in big brother with the fans and underdog. Yeah. It's interesting. And I honestly I was I was kind of expecting Tom would drop because people have been very down in his game play. But I think that it kind of balanced itself out where some people are even more annoyed at Tom, but other people are very grateful that he provided entertainment, and I sort of feel the same way inside myself where I'm like I'm disappointed in his game play. But I'm very thankful that he is providing us with entertainment because this week would have been really boring without him. So it's a contradiction there his his game play was always going to drop, but you know, his entertainment value is still like him. So I still had them pretty high on my list. I also asked who did you vote for to receive the power of the publicist? And then I also asked with hindsight of who want h h who did you want to receive the power of the publicist, and I unsurprisingly Tom was very high. He was a very high on the first vote that people actually voted for Tom receive the power with publicist, but then after he won h wage people were a lot lower on, Tom. They were not wanting him to have the power of the published about I've talked about a twenty percent or so drop. I just thought Brent would be interested in that statistic in particular if you follow him on Twitter, so just just you know. Put that question there. Just rent. But overall, we did see significant taymor contingent. But obviously our audiences seemingly leaning toward the Tom of it all but not after he wanted to because he didn't need it anymore. So I also asked did the mooch quit or was it a planned twist? Yes. What is what is your official? Call melissa. I think it was a planned twist that was very poorly planned and executed. So I think it was. But I don't think he quit. Yes. Very very poorly planned, but it was definitely a planned quit. He had a flight booked to Switzerland the day after he was he left the house, and you know, it's been widely reported that he was always scheduled to be at this event. So I do not think he quit. No. All right. I agree. I said from the start I thought it was a planned twist, very bad one. And I think that's the worst story that could have had however, the audience did agree with us, but not by much fifty three percent of people say it was a plan. To twist still forty seven percent say it was a quit, and they covered it up. So they still people are commenting on all of his interview articles and everything being like, why are they have very we don't believe you per second. This was a quit. Why are you covering this up? It's like, I just I I don't I mean unless like this was a situation where he. He went on the show Bulwell knowing that he was going to be going to Davos. And didn't tell CBS this told them he was going to be a player, and then he's checking his calendar. And it's coming time for Dabo's. And he's like, you know, what I'm out of here, and he leaves so we can make sure he gets to that conference. And then it that was the case that that's sure fine. Well, and good. But if that was the case, then CBS would be so pissed at him because he was supposed to be their big draw. He was supposed to be the one that gave all the Trump gossip, and you know, and if this whole time knew he was going to quit and just up and left and left them in the lurch. Like that they'd be pissed. They wouldn't sit there and create this whole like twist like, oh, let's bring him in and do a whole mooching veto. They wouldn't do that. They'd be like, this guy quit. He's a quitter get him out of here. And like they would be bad mouthing him. There's no way that they he's uninvited finale. He's not they be pissed. There's no way that they're going to like. Let them leave the house and some sort of celebrate, Tori fashion. There's just no way. So that's why I don't think it was a quit. I think that honestly it looks worse for CBS that this is what they've decided to do. But, but you know, so be it. That's what they decided to do. Yeah. I mean, look at that competition the one that they had prepared the day after or the day of the day he walked out. So we saw him on day six and then the competition happened on day seven which was hours before the feeds came on. So like, we're really thinking that there's a possibility that they put together these giant big poster boards with mooch everywhere. All over it. They had the celebrity breaking news twists that continued on into this week, you the powers I don't understand how anyone could think it's still a quit. But it may just be us. I don't know or fifty three percent of us again, very contentious final question. I asked who do you want to be victim this week interesting trip? A little piece of trivia about this question is that it was the exact same question last week that we had the roundtable minus Jonathan candy, and Joey were the other two options last time and last time it was very significantly in favor of people wanted Joey to leave candy was at the very bottom of that. It was about sixty sixty forty this week. However, it is now sixty five P presented people. Want candy to be victim this week and thirty five percent one Joey to be effected. So Joey has shot up in the popularity. However, he still does have some detractors here. Yeah. I mean, I think everyone sees the writings on the wall with candy. This is what we're going to get from her for the entire season. So if it's if it's not gonna get any better just send her out now, and we'll see what we can do to make things interesting. I just feel like if she's not willing to try and play. It's like what's the point? Even I don't want. I don't wanna watch feeds just to watch someone live in a house even though that sounds counterintuitive because that's really what we're doing. But I don't want to see someone like making dinner and just hanging out and playing cards, and I wanna see the strategy. I wanna see the talking and rooms I mean, I just feel like I don't feel like I've even seen like one game conversation with her. I just I if if it's happening it's happening on string on screens that I'm not watching because I'm not saying anything from her, which is really unfortunate. Because in all our preseason interviews. I was really excited about her. Yeah. We'll get out of here. Get paychecks. She's she's clearly here for and go about the rest of our game is my hope so. Yeah, I it's unfortunate. But I do agree. I I would like to see Joey stay here at this point candy, just isn't, unfortunately, it's not bringing much to the table. We can't even make fun of her. She's just she's not even like easy to make. It was bad. It's not an exciting fiction. It's not like anyone's getting blindsided. Well, then again, maybe she is getting blindsided if she thinks she's safe who knows what she's thinking because you'd never talks about anything to anyone. So I don't know. Maybe we will get a blindside, and she'll be like I had no idea. I don't know. All right. I think she'll be fine. Well, lets move back to the buying and the selling we this is going to be the final thing we do here on the roundtable. I have submitted my buying and selling Melissa has submitted hers, and we even have some submissions from Rochester. Nino who had been leaving track of the prices. He submitted some buys last week. And so he did get his in this time as well. I do have an update as well from Christina z who does the amazing statistics for all of this stuff? Make sure you check her out on Twitter and find the the. Page thing. She also just post it in the chat here. This wasn't fact the worst the lowest average that we've ever had on the round table four point two five average total and the next closest one was the week three of big brother twenty where it was a four point five eight. So yes, no surprise tell pad. Great, great it all all right. Let's move on to the buying and selling of shares. We're going to start with Matt who has instructions from Brent. Okay. Well, here's the thing though. I don't have the board in front of me to see like if I can afford these people. So if I can't afford what he wants let me know and a cutback. But I think I think he's good. What does he have right now? So he's has twenty seven dollars total to spend. All right. He's fine. He wants to buy one Ricky. Okay. One Dina and one Kato there you go. Okay. All right. I don't know what the bath is that leaves him with. But I believe that should be good. I think that's fourteen total. So he'll be left with thirteen if I'm not mistaken. Yes. There you go. So now Bilo four and while I'm here. It's it's up to you. Oh, not his instructions. Okay. So there you got those were Brent's picks as you can see if you're watching along the other picks have been entered here. I will say what mine were I chose to buy a Lolo. I I'm low on her, but she's very cheap. And I think that she's gonna last probably a little while. And if she lasts her price might go up, and I might be able to sell it for profit. So that was kind of my thinking with Lolo also bought a Ricky as a parent. We many of us did because despite the fact that he is expensive. I do feel like he's in it for the long haul. I feel like he's probably the best position person in the house. And he I hard to see his price dropping too much at this point. So I decided to go in with a Ricky, and then I doubled down. I bought another DNA anticipating that others might try and catch me here. And I was in fact, very right everybody bought one Dina this so maintaining my lead with DNA. And that brought me to exactly twenty. So I stopped there. So that I can get the maximum amount of money next week, Melissa what were you thinking? I bought a rookie and a Joey and Dina I just felt like I could see I could see all three of those people increasing in value in the next couple of weeks. So I felt especially with Joey I felt like I could see him going up in the next. I guess it wouldn't be weeks. So the next few days whatever the next week when we next time. We do this doc watch. I just felt like I could see his value, increasing and. I don't know if I'll be able to buy him in the future. So I just felt like I was going to snatch them up and deny just I think I think she'll go pretty far so. I actually I was I was thinking about Joe I bought joy last week when he was at three dollars. He's now at five I actually thought about selling him for a prophet here. And then maybe re buying in. If he if you dropped again, but I decided to dollars was not worth it. I'll I'll maintain my nice little position here at where I bought in cheaper than than the rest of you suckers. So we also got some choices from rob. Obviously, we don't have explanations from him. But we can we can see what they were. He bought one Tom this week, Tom at three dollars. He decided to go for it here with Tom so interesting, interesting trends here from rob. He also bought a Kato at four dollars. So he's really going all in on team fund. He's he thinks the team finds tomato the tomato end of team fun. He thinks he's he thinks they're in for a comeback. And Ben toback Joe, h is you never know. I wouldn't have expected to win this week. So. They're pretty cheap. So not not terrible decisions there. And I believe that is his he he made purchase last week as well. So that is second Kato stock. So he's going to take the lead on Cato there for the record though. Rob he can win. But he can't beat us. That's that's. That was a Sarah wins. He just gets a shout out on the show. Just like the Reddin patron group people. Yeah. Rob what has only. Well. Here's the thing. If he continues to submit choices before the before we submit hours than he can play with us. But if he's if. Because. Like, we can beat us. But basically in the same way that we can't compare our game with like the patriot groups game because like we're playing against each other. So like, you know, somebody somebody who's playing a separate game might have seven shares of Dino when Dina's the winner, but I only need four to be a head of you guys. I'm not gonna go. I'm not going to spend more than I need to be the person from patron. We're going to have the amount that need to be you guys. So if rob is able to submit them in time, then then he can play last week. It was not the case this week. It was so we'll see how it goes. We'll see I guess. With us in the patron group. Rob your we're not too cool for you. But it's still interesting cancer. And if and if he is able to beat us, then he'll he'll definitely have bragging rights for sure. So so that is his second share of Kato there. He also decides to buy a low low just like I did seize that she's cheap stock there. And he bought a he previously bought a or sorry. He bought little last week when she was five dollars bad decision. He putt a tame our last week, she has increased in value. So that's that was not a bad by he bought a Joey this week at five dollars. So he was one of the suckers that bought them at a higher price than I did. And he also bought a DNA this week. So there you go not believe this Dina. Lohan train has been taking off and just full steam ahead. It's crazy. We love we love her. Yes. And again, I suggest that you check out the video for this. If you wanna see the charts and the numbers and everything we've got some great visuals for you. If you're interested there, and I think that's all we got for you here for this roundtable on big brother celebrity to it's going to be interesting. The next the next round table will take place on Wednesday February sixth there's going to be an episode next Thursday. So we're going to have to do it a day earlier on Wednesday. Just so everyone knows that we have an addiction on Saturday. And then another person getting victim before we have our roundtable humour vixen. So they're being so there'll be an addiction on Saturday and then another one on Monday. So very high chance that somebody is going to lose some serious money here because basically candy is the only person that currently. Has no shares bought in her by us at the very least everybody else has at least one person bought into them. So somebody's losing money on Monday. It's crazy to think that the term in terms of the schedule that we're at like, Shannon. Elizabeth still hasn't been a victim this season. That's how far back we are in terms of people going out because there's only been two out so far. So we still Shannon in the game. If this was last season. So we have to lose somebody on Saturday. We have to lose somebody on Monday to get us to the meta spot. And then I guess probably a double eviction next Friday because it's a two hour episode. And so then I think that's what we'll we'll see coming up at nine right now Saturday, we'll go down to eight Monday. We'll go down to seven and then probably two more on Friday to get down to five and then five headed into the finale is probably what's likely. Wild is only five episodes left, and we still have everybody in the game. I don't know. Like is it five or five or six episodes raising? Yeah. We've got let's see one two three four five six episodes total. There we go. So and also just to brag I feel like I need to say this. I'm the only one who hasn't lost someone in the draft yet knock on wood. Ooh. Who's your team? I don't remember. It was your tie-in team is Natalie, Tom and Dina. Deana? I feel like that's pretty good. I feel like that's something you can brag about like once their four on. Somebody was guaranteed to lose. Nobody at that three people con. Not going to be able to brag about this on Wednesday. So I felt like I should do it. Now. Like, I don't know. For instance, if you had four of the final five on your team on survivor draft. That's probably at a time that you would brag even though you ended up losing because of you know. You know, this is the last probably the last time I get to brag about this for this season. Like, you're still I personally I feel like your team is in the lead. Well, nowadays, I told you it is I haven't lost anyone yet. Not in terms of who not in terms of losing people in terms of. I think Natalie Indiana are two of the more likely winners that I could do that too. I just I do think that I have a very likely chance of losing, Tom. Yes. Had a time when they rolls around basically already considered that you've lost, Tom. That's fat. I figured I should say I should brag about it. Now and the sad about it on Wednesday. All right. Well, anything else that you guys want to talk about before we wrap this up? Nope. Just excited to go. As we've been on here. Tom is still spiraling out of control. Just in terms of like knowing that his game is over in Cato is also starting to come to this realization. So while the next few days may not have tons of maybe game play. It'll still have Tom trying to figure out what to do with themselves. So I'm excited for what's ahead. All right. Well, do anyone in the does anyone in the chat have an idea for a hashtag this episode or either view, let me know come up with some ideas? Make sure you check out the lifebeat update tomorrow morning. Of course, I will be live at eleven AM with who ya. And we will talk about everything that happened today on the live feeds might be a bit of a light one tomorrow. But still there's important stuff to know. And then of course on Saturday. We're going to have the eviction, and we'll be live after that to recap what's going on there. I recorded an American injure warrior USA versus the world's special with leader. That should be coming out soon. So make sure you check that out. Just today survivor preseason has officially begun. And you have a whole season of first one out three whole episodes to listen to so make sure you check that out. It was a lot of fun to put that together the music in particular is quite good, so recommended I just wanna say a friend of mine is on the show. So I'm very excited. So yeah. The ward odd. Yeah. That's your friend. He goes to law school with my roommate and they're good friends. Yeah. I know. That's exciting. Pretty well. So yeah, that's very fun. I was talking to him today about how the separate is talking about him and how they dug up his old videos already. And he was like, whoa. So excited about this. It was it was when I was in LA. She was like you're doing flu right like war dog or no. No you naming him by his other name. And Josh is I have no idea that isn't. And then I was like what he goes, by nickname. He wouldn't tell me the nickname. But like trying he was not giving me any information. I was getting nothing from him. So he's been very good about his NDA. But so I was like what's going on? And he was like look all I can tell you as I go by nickname on the show. And I was like what is it? What is it? He wouldn't tell me. And so then I go to Taryn and I'm like Darren. Thank someone with the nickname. Yeah. Josh. And I had a moment. We're like, oh my God. She means word hawk. Great. Yeah. It was very funny. Yeah. So craziness happening survivor makes you check out. I went out, and you can also, of course, find me on twitch. I have been streaming kingdom hearts three as well. As going and talking about the feeds in watching along with you guys. So that's been a lot of fun as well. Make sure you find me there, twitch dot TV slash Taryn Armstrong and find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Tarrant Melissa's Melissa with three as and that is Matt la- gory. So let's see I've got Walgade, Matt. The matt. Jordan. All the other ones are low low stock. That's a pretty good one. But I feel like let's let's try to remain a little more positive. We'll go. Well, welcome. Matt. Yeah. He can't be too mad with me. I didn't actually mess with his picks or anything like that much as I wanted to buy a low low form. Alright so for Melissa. And Matt I am tearing Armstrong hashtag Walgade, Matt. We'll see you next time.

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Natalie Eva Marie: Celebrity Big Brother 2 Post Game Interview

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Natalie Eva Marie: Celebrity Big Brother 2 Post Game Interview

"The. Everybody was gonna rob sister. You know here with some special celebrity big brother postseason coverage and say we're going to check in with Natalie. Eva Marie we're going to get patched in with her in just a bit. Actually, it's an interview that was we just got done recording myself entire Armstrong talked with Natalie. Eva Marie that she has a new podcast coming out on podcast one the same network that hosts rob has a podcast. So we were able to talk with Nellie. You're gonna hear that interview. Coming up in just a moment before that let me just take a moment. And thank a sponsor for this podcast. Those our friends over at skill share skill share is an online learning community for creators with over twenty five thousand classes in design business and more. You'll discover countless ways to fuel your curiosity creativity and career I have taken classes on skill share. And I did this a couple of months ago. 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And so we'll just pick it up with this conversation earlier today with nal even Marie and Taryn. What's the name of your podcast, the Natalie Marie show on podcast one either? Okay. All right. It's right. Gonna have Tamar Braxton next week. Wow. Yes. Yes. All right. I'm gonna subscribe now. Yes. Please. You need you need a come on my show is well, okay. All right. I'm there. I'm there Natalie. Okay. Yes. I have a lot of questions for you as well about what I mean. Survivor. Are you kidding me? Survivor fan. Actually, auditioned for survivor, I think like a decade ago, and I made it all the way to like the little sequester part in like tile. Basically, can we keep this be the start of the podcast? Can we just keep all this? Yes. Let's do. All right. So we're in we're in the middle of a podcast with Natalie eve, Marie WWE diva and celebrity big barometer star as well as the host of the Natalie even reshow on podcast one. How's everything going? Really good fantastic. How about you? We're doing a very good. Let me just make sure the proper introduction of Karen Armstrong. He is our key person covering the daily updates of all of the big brother live feeds Natalie heave Murray. Oh, wow. I love it night. Yes. Daily podcast. What's happening? I'm the crazy person that has notes on everyday the life. I love it. Okay. So now, how was the big brother celebrity experience for you. Honestly, it was so freaking amazing. I had such a good time like from beginning to end that I really think that I could have stayed in longer. Not in the sense of obviously, I wish that I till the finale, but obviously the regular season is like ninety nine or one hundred days, and I really think that I could made it all the way. Okay. So at one point the first couple of weeks of the season that I think that you were looking like a heavy favorite to go on to win. This thing. Turn red me if I'm wrong, but at one point didn't Natalie a peak at about eight dollars out of ten on. Yes. She I think I think you did have one of the higher ratings there toward the game. Yeah. You're a good spot for a long time. And it did seem like like you were probably going to get to the end with Lolo and probably beat her jury vote. So we were really looking at you as a potential winner candidate. I know I was gunning for it as well. I was hoping that I would make it to the final day, but you know, like in big brother chips, sometimes don't fall your way, and you know, of kind of happened in my case, what do you feel like was the turning point for you? I think there's like multiple things, obviously like certain certain things when you're in the house, you know, you have gametime decisions to make. So I think number one I should have won the HOA competition the tumbling dice because then I wouldn't have even been on the block because that's the one that Tom one. And then I had the opportunity to win the power of veto, right? After that end. I didn't. So I feel like those two competitions. If I pulled out the w I would have been in the finale, no, no questions asked. Let's just come back to the game in a little bit. I one time after the show. It seemed like that things got really contentious in the house between your bedroom, and Tom and Kato has has anything improve now that everybody's out of the house. Yeah. I mean, there's no bad blood on on on my end. I mean, I definitely like inside the house. You know, you're playing a game. And I think what Haina disrupted everything was I know that Lolo myself, and even Ricky we would erode with Tom Cato all the way to the to the end, except for the fact that. Tom Cato got really upset when I didn't use the power of veto. And then basically, you know, kind of went downhill from there, then on the episode didn't show the night before I even use the power Beato low, and I had told Toma Kato that we weren't really comfortable using it to back door Ricky considering he was team member. And Tom had told us that he was totally okay. With whatever decision that we wanted to wanted to make using the power of veto. And so I was like cool like team member. Also, odds not to use it. And then I was just like oh my God. It was almost as if a bomb exploded one of the things that Tom was mostly concerned about with Ricky was that when you got to the five that Ricky would be a spot where he would side with you too. And it would be three against two and you would stick with Ricky at the five is that something that you were planning on doing or did you did you planning on taking Ricky out of five? I mean, honestly, I think that we weren't even thinking I think in big brother to looking too far advance is also not the best. I think Tom not only did he play a hell of a game. But I think he's like got in his head too much. And that ultimately cost him his he made it to the final for sure. But when it came down to a final five like in my head. I was ready to just like kind of cut anybody other than Lolo because she was my writer, Diane final two. So I wasn't really thinking of like, okay. Once we get there. Then we're going to do this. It was more along the lines of like, let's ride the with the five and will eliminate everybody that is not one of us five. And then once we get to the final five than it's kind of game on. And obviously if tomor Kato won the competition, they are winning left, and right, they would exit all of us out. So I don't know why they were so worried about Ricky. And you guys were tight with Ricky all the way up until the end, but what is going on between low low and Ricky Natalie Marie K. If we if we can talk about this a little bit on social media, and I seen. Low low low as like posted a picture of her like INA like a pool that's red. And she's posting that this is me finding out where Ricky lives and then swimming in his pool after I drown him. And these were your two friends in the house, and it seems like there's animosity. I did not see that picture or I've seen the picture on Instagram. But the I didn't do that capstan. I think she's responding to somebody who made a comment is she she also called him a false prophet. Yeah. You know, I love Lolo to death. But. At the end of the day. We're playing a game, you know. And I think I think sometimes emotions ride high inside that big brother house, and apparently not quite sure if Lolo in rookie have spoken outside of the house. But I know that I actually love each and every one of my bedroom alliances. I mean, that's one thing that I do miss the most is we had some awesome talks in that bedroom. I mean, a lot of people I think that we were like plotting eating a lot of time. When honestly we weren't we were talking about, you know, our lifestyles tribulations, which probably wasn't that fascinating. But we weren't trying to scheme in do all these crazy things. But yeah, I don't know about relationship outside of the house. I mean, I'm hoping that good. We try to read men the fences Natalie, I am gonna try. I'm going to try and get everybody on a group tax leaking dinner and squash. This we're going to the person. The kept them together when you were in the house, they would get into some fights here and there, and you're the person that kind of had to step in and be like Lolo. Let's let's be nice to Rick. Now, totally you know now looking back. You know, I've done some interviews in kind of, you know, people have said the same thing in. I guess I wasn't. I don't know what on earth had gotten into me. But for whatever reason I was all about a native for my own selfish reasons, I'm go. We're all lines together. Let's keep it all together. You know, like, I don't want all this like blowing up but also to your living together in your in such a tight space on as best as possible for everyone to get along in half the stuff half little arguments Hannah got going on in the house were really nothing to be arguing about. Okay. I want to stick with social media if we can hear Natalie if you can tell us what is going on. With Lindsay lo Han that after the season. She came out and then she's firing shots everywhere. Also coming for Ricky. I know you know, what that one is super interesting to me because taymor is coming on my podcast this week. So I wanna even ask her what her thoughts are because I know that she came after Lindsay came after taymor as well. And I'm so confused on on what even she's talking about. I mean, I'm really confused by at all. So I I don't know exactly what she was told. I guess I'm not quite sure I'm like, I would love to know the Tito pay. What's what's unlike? What's next? I want like, okay. Follow it up. Where's your follow up like food? Nearly a updates Lindsay. Lohan eventually made it Instagram post. That's I've been made aware that further comments were added to my last Instagram posts to peer as if I wrote them, I I can guarantee these comments were not made for me sadly from investigation. I learned that a past member of my team who had access to my. Count made these changes the matter has been dealt with internally. It turns out that we were all catfish. We got fish nev- on the phone. Own my gosh, that is crazy praising uttering say about that. Maybe human market gets gets the the bottom of. What's going on with Dina Lohan and the catfish situation because that there was all this talk about this guy that she met. And then they've found the guy. But now it turns out that the guy had another girlfriend. So that's where I'm confused because I have heard multiple stories, right? So in the house when she was kind of like chatting, I kind of walked in on the conversation immediately kind of was like, oh, yeah. It's like what this is crazy definitely catfish. And then I walked out of the conversation because I'm like, you know, if you haven't met somebody in five years or FaceTime or something like that, you know, that's usually a red flag. However, then I heard that the person was like catfish ING in multiple identities. Then I heard that he was real and loves her. And then now hearing that he has multiple girlfriends or whatever. So I don't really know. What is what all I know is that he's probably not. The best person for her. Okay. All right. We stand with Dina. Let's let's go back to the game a little bit. And so we know Lolo was upset that Ricky didn't take her to the end you've gotten to talk with all these people that were on the jury. Do you know how the jury would've voted if it would have been Ricky versus low in the end, I guarantee he would've gotten he wanted to gotten swept. So I'm pretty sure he would have gotten a couple of boats. Who win? I still think probably Lolo, man. I think so do do you know 'cause in particular, it seemed like Jonathan Ryan, Joey, Tom Cato. We're hanging out, and they're tweeting pictures of themselves asking who they should vote for it seemed like they were all kind of on the same page about who they wanted to vote for do, you know, if that's true. And if so who they were leaning toward in the Ricky versus Lolo situation. It kinda did seem like that. Right. But I think the the boys were a little bit salty. Because basically the girls annihilated all the guys kind of pop them off. I was like our hashtag was black widows because we just annihilate the guys immediately. I think the boys probably would have voted for Lolo and instead of Ricky. Yeah. I think what was it about Ricky that people didn't want to vote for him in the end. You know, what I don't know. I think honestly, I love Ricky. He's super cool, dude. And he I think he just rubbed the guys I think the wrong way because he is very much like how does that make you feel or like he he likes to get through multiple layers of somebody? And I don't think the guy's really like that too much because once you start doing that than new start really like kind of seeing who somebody really truly is you know, and Ricky also is so comfortable within himself that he doesn't need to be the center of attention or constantly having conversation. It's more along the lines of like, I asked him. I was like, oh, yeah. You know, guys. They were just like Ricky doesn't talk much in than his responses will if I don't have anything to say, I'm not gonna say anything, and I totally respect that. I think that's great. A lot of times. You know, we're talking just to talk or like. Not be awkward or uncomfortable, or whatever it may be an Ricky is just like kind of a cool cat. He's very calm, and you know, very shore of himself. So I think that is kind of like what probably rubbed the guy's the wrong way. But I loved Ricky. I thought he was fantastic. What was it that made you vote for for taymor over? Well, immediately. Since I didn't get to see exactly what went down because they're already on stage. But I when I saw Lolo come out. She gave me the look like basically Ricky scooter over and kind of gave me the initial like. Okay. So I ended up going with with taymor. Plus I got to watch a little bit of her game. And I'm like damn this chick. She played solid like basically on in a sense every conversation that she was having within the house. She was just telling people what they of wanted to hear. So she was playing basically everybody in the house, which gameplay wise. Bravo, I kind of think that rookie too. He just wasn't as smooth. I guess that the guys. So that's probably what hurt him in in the jury vote. But it was shocking that he didn't take Lolo in the end for sure. Did you say anything to Ricky after that like Ricki what the bedroom bedroom alliance? What are you thinking? You know, what I actually didn't? I got him. I got to say Hello. And then we get, you know, having to take pictures all of this stuff that I didn't get a chance to actually speak with him to see kind of where his head was at. And then now that I'm out of the house. Not only do I want him to come on the podcast, but on a Chit chat and got dinner. He's not going to be wanting to talk just to hear himself that you could have dead air on that podcast with Ricky now on because I'll be asking the question asking the questions he's gonna talk what I'm saying. It has nothing to say. No, I'm pretty sure I can get Ricky to talk. I I had I had multiple like amazing conversations with Ricky. I wish they actually show that on. That's what's crazy live feeds and than like what airs I really feel like our to kinda separate shows, which makes sense because if you think about it, you have a twenty four seven feed, and you're trying to basically shrink all that into three hours of television week difficult. So how how will wear were you guys of the live feeds in the fact that not only were people watching you twenty four seven, but also the people that voted out we're going to be able to watch you see clips of you talking about them in terms of getting the jury vote for you. How aware were you of trying to mind that kind of situation? So what's crazy about it is that I am a big brother fan and even going into the house like I am super aware of live feeds, but. When I watched the show. I never watched the live feeds and going into the house. So I had no idea what I'm kind of happy about I guess because then you're not really like thinking over thinking too much. But I didn't realize that the live feeds were as I guess live. You can because I was told now that I think about it make sense. So I thought it was only like four cameras are going to be live at different times, but natural -ality. It's more like four frames are going to be live at all times. But you are constantly live. So I actually didn't realize how freaking live we really weren which I don't know is positive or negative. But on the say it's a positive because I mean, what you see is what you get. And you can't really like show your potent anything. No, it's very live very live. It's very live. I mean, I can't like there's my husband. He watched all the life aids. And he'll totally says like if anybody that goes on next shows if you're like, a husband or wife or any family, my family, my parents were watching the life as as well to not do it because it's so stress heavy like you're watching your significant other or child in one room talking or doing something. And then in the next frame, you're watching these people like trying to like vote them out or get them out of the house. You know? So definitely stressful for family members on the outside. I mean, it kind of make sense that maybe if some of the other house goes felt that way as well because we were watching the live feed sometimes, and there would be a lot of, you know, kinda smack talk about the people that were voted out already. And we're like why are they doing this? They know certainly they know that these people are going to be watching and they have to vote for them in the end. Right. But I guess maybe if. You guys didn't realize that the that the cameras were always going to be on you. Maybe that's why you weren't thinking about as quite as much. Yeah. For sure I don't I don't think that there was too much smack talk about anybody that was voted out. I mean, I could be wrong. But. I'm not sure I don't think anybody talked to too bad about anybody. That was voted out. There were moments. Yeah. I don't even know did you ever turn it on after you were out of the house, and they were still in there. Yes. I got to see like I wish like Lolo I love her to death. But the only showed one side alot, and that was this like this intense total like computational like just very chronic hothead when in actuality low is super loyal, and she was super loyal to me. And we were you know, considered, you know, my writer die from probably day one and just her like putting tamers way little head in my bed and filling my little chest with Eminem. And then she brought me t one warning. I got to see all of that on the live feed that was really really cool. So kinda they showed a little bit more of like that, you know, it's a show. So of course. No, I want to ask you about one of the bigger moments of the season that you were involved in. This was when you came to Lolo and you wanted to make a final to deal or a name for your line. Final two names. I know. And that's when table are caches, you honest. Okay. So let me give you the story. How this first of all this is going to go down into big brother history of light what not to do and to always check any room that you're in. But first of all if you watched any of the life aids taymor legit like blends into the bed. It's insane. Like, sometimes she is in her bed. And then sometimes it looks like she's in Hermitage out. But that's on excuse, I walk in there because I had just walked out of my diary session. And I was like pumped up in art. I was like Jack. It was the first day. And I have I had safety. Right. So I was already super excited, and then I love my room, and they're like, oh, so what is your tag team name with the Lolo, but go change your shirt normally pay? So I'm walking out super pumped. I see low low in the hall, and then walk in like just an asshole not even attention, and basically blow my entire cover big. Time. But I feel like you know, I tried to cover it up as best as I possibly. No, you really nailed it with the cover stories. Here. I was like, wow, busted Rosie. Could you talk about the time that Dina low hand snubbed you in the storage room when she won't cast you right? I literally. And I remember I literally was like, wow. Did I get punked by DNA law hand? And I still to this day. Like, I had never addressed it because I was just like, okay she's upset because Jonathan is out of the house. But unlike why she mount of me what like everybody voted for Jonathan. So I have no, I don't know. She never really addressed it either. So I kinda let that go. But yeah, I definitely did just not me for sure. Jonathan did tell tell her that he was an alliance with with the women that they were supposed to have his back. So she was probably feeling a little upset. That's what's so crazy. Because so that was that was another thing where I'm like damn. I wish the original alliance that we had was Ryan Jonathan myself Lolo entail. Mar. Right. And that was gonna be a I think a solid five. And then all of a sudden day, I think it was like the end of day one to be honest. All of a sudden we start hearing that the boys are trying to make an all boys alliance. We're like, wait what? And then they started them. We heard that Ryan was trying to back door Lolo, and then the power of veto competition came and they did not pick one of us that were in their alliance. And we're like that is a red flag clearly that we are. And then look what happened quedo one, and which ultimately could have shifted the whole game. If because both if you guys remember both Ryan and John. Had houseguests choice, and they could have picked myself or Lolo to play. And if we had one that we would have saved Jonathan he wouldn't have gotten victim. But then they didn't pick us at all. So how are you not gonna pick your lions members? Nearly a house surprised were you to see Tom named as America's favorite house guest? Well, I wasn't really that shocked considering what I watched the I didn't ET live interview. And we watch the. Final episode. And I mean watching it I'm like, wow, Tom looks great. Like, I like, Tom. So I wasn't shocked at all. But you feel like that what you saw on TV was different than what you experience in the house. For. Sure, definitely I mean, I think that it just didn't showcase like everything in that was going on in house. So yeah. Can you just put a finer point on that? Well, because I think a lot of people are confused who enjoyed watching Tom on the show. What what was it about him that you guys in your bedroom, especially found so particularly offputting about Tom on? You know, what I think it's like certain people like when he was put on the block the first week. He was totally another different person like super different end than certain people. If you give them a little bit of power. And then when when he won h or when he got taken off the block because Cato use the power veto on him. All of a sudden he was like walking around like the incredible hulk with his chest puffed out. And so that is like a little bit off putting and then also too is that we're not at a comedy show. So like if you have somebody that is, you know, middle aged, right? Tom's like almost fifty and. Kind of being like not really wanna see him which really wanna sandwich sandwich on valley. What what like that to me is like not really funny to go. It's just a little bit off putting and like how he was like walking. Oh my gosh. You guys when the power in which team are actually had when that was implemented in the game. The the I think that was a monumental moment to where things are to crumble because Tom was so fixated on finding out who had the power, and he thought that it was Ricky, but he was interrogating seriously. Everybody making them feel super uncomfortable. Like, he did it with tame our he did it with Lolo. He did with Ricky. He did it with Joey and people definitely were like kind of taken back by it. You know? So he'll he was entertaining for the audience. But that he wasn't putting you guys in the house Eddie's with the way that he carried himself totally. And I think it's because he's super intelligent and very like one he's a super fan and he knows how to play the game. However, he was super aware of live feeds so he was able to play to the camera a ton. So basically didn't really showcase like all the other kind of it wasn't like the house was against HAMAs. All it was more along the long lines of Tom just made a lot of people feel uncomfortable. Do do you think the the there was an overreaction to Tom's behavior in terms of these sort of anger that went to toward him in the house? I honestly think one Tom Tom could have won this game the, but he over thanks so much any have to think to at the very end because I got to watch. So and everything punish shifted his. Oh, my goal was to get Ricky out of the house. And then that all obviously all shifted, and he was taking counsel from candy Dina who have totally went on publicly saying that they don't even know like the show or how to play really the game or what it really entails. So what's made Tom kind of life overthinking ton? But I do think people not knowing how to play the game. I would that would be my number one advice for anybody. That's gonna do it again or for anybody that wants to do it next season is to really be aware of how to play the game. Because sometimes when you're playing this game like the whole purpose. Is you make proposals? You make certain deals you're like, hey, if you do this then I'll keep you safe next week. So I feel like people took that as like massive threats when like the threat that's just telling you up like if you vote this way than I'm willing to keep you. Safe next week. You know what I'm saying? So I I do think in some instances there was like overreaction a little bit. Anything else that we need to know? I don't Natalie even he's gotta run. I think we're good. Okay. Guys know, hey, look, we'd stay in talk to you. They tells us another interview to get to. No, wait. Hold on. There's a twist told on that. Maybe maybe we're going to get more time. No, no. We're not man. And we had there. Real into the fake interview. And that's a big twist. And now there's another extra power veto. It's going to be great. I love it. Now. Thank you for making some time to talk to us about all of this stuff. We really appreciate it. Of course, you could hear talk more about everything that was going on celebrity big brother and more on the Natalie eve Marie show on what are you gonna talk about? When you're not talking about big brother, everything from I have multiple guests on anybody in there. You know, certain expertise in their field from doctors to nutritionists chill, just basically every walk of life athletes and talking about what's going on print events and all of that more. Okay, natalie. Thank you so much. Thank you so much guys. They haven't Natalie even Marie there you go. Yeah. Eighty big takeaways from talking to Natalie. I was definitely intrigued by the answer that she gave in terms of what she was told about the life feeds going in that they were four cameras that would sometimes be live like I can see how you might misinterpret that into thinking that maybe there are four designated cameras that are sometimes live as opposed to what the live feeds actually are. And I wonder if if a lot of the other celebrities had that take away from what they were told that the live feeds were, and and maybe if that kind of explains some of the behavior that we saw in the house and in after the house in terms of what they what they claim happened in the house. So that was very interesting to me that you know, other recent big brother players have also said similar statements about that. They didn't know just how live the life cameras are. It's not the first time. I've heard this sentiment. I I, you know. Players. I mean, should they explain this more? I mean, I mean, I think that she kind of went through the right dilemma there, which is the, you know, you want them to know what they're getting into. But at the same time, you want to get them as real as possible, especially on a season when there is an unsecure Stor, Jerry, maybe it is better to let them go in not realizing that they're always on the camera because if they do then we wouldn't see as much drama because they would always be nice all the time, or at least they tried to be I imagine. So maybe this elaborately that it is the better thing and then on the stuff with Tom. I did think that there was something interesting there in terms of that. I if Tom was playing to the cameras is that off putting to the other players in the game and not even to make it specifically about Tom green. But on a big brother season. Do you think that that is something that could really hurt a person when the other players feel like that the one person is? Playing it up to the cameras and really like trying to appeal to the audience at home more. So than to the people in the house. I think in a regular season people don't mind as much, but I know that immediately as soon as the life he'd started. We saw Ricky seemed to have an issue with people changing their behavior now that the live feeds had started. And that was the primary cause of the rift between Ricky, and Tom is that Tom felt like that Ricky felt like Tom was acting differently? And Tom was like, hey, Ricky, I think you might be acting differently to in recused now. No, and they kind of got into it there. And it was also a cause of Tom creating tension with other people the whole. Power thing. Trying to figure out who had the power Tom saw that as hey, the show told us that there's a power, and we don't know who has it. But one of us does obviously what we're supposed to do here is we're supposed to go and find who has the power, that's the content. They're looking for on the show. So let's look at this like, it's a murder mystery. And let's go ask people questions and try to figure out try to solve the mystery. But obviously that's going to make people feel uncomfortable in a game that they feel very insecure in their positioning for so, you know, it causes tension and Thomas looking at it one way, and they're looking at it another way and and things don't mesh very well. You know, it's something that, you know, I've heard other survivors talk about with the all star seasons like going back a million years ago like Rupert. People were frustrated with him he'd be you know, sitting there acting normal and the candid camera guy would come over. And then he would really turn on Ruper when the cameras were on. And so I guess it's something that could be annoying people. But maybe not as annoying as it may be some of the reactions to work. Yeah. I mean, he's saying that he's a terrible person because of it. I think maybe was a little bit over actually. All right. Hopefully, we'll see what else the cat drags in. If we ever talked to another celebrity big brother contestant. Hopefully, we did. Okay. All right. Of course. Attaran great work once again covering everything with the big brother celebrity, the countdown to Canadian big brother candidates seven is on. Yes. I just saw tweet by the the the official Twitter account. They're they're posted in cryptic messages already. What was the cryptic message? Can we has solved it yet? I don't think. So it's just this. This is the tweet that has all the BB seven spoilers, but you can't figure it out. But it has like different sized letters. Lots of weird spacings. I guess there's some kind of code, but. I will be talking with a risk Cox this weekend on our survivor feedback show where Cox was out on location for the survivor thirty eight premier. So we will check in with her. So that I'm sure that we will discuss some big brother at some point in that podcast this weekend with Orissa as first week of March right around the corner for big brother, Canada seven. Okay. All right terrier anything else. I think we're good. Okay. All right. Of course, you can follow tear on Twitter. He's at Armstrong Taryn. I'm rob studio. Take everybody have a good one. Bye.

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I need to take some credit. I need something to feel good about. Okay. We are here to talk about everything that happened on the big brother celebrity to live feeds yesterday and. Let's continue it. There wasn't a whole lot of movement. Obviously again, sort of the slow H wage previously, not not a lot happening there. And then we do not really have much update you in terms of what the plan is. So I should focus a little more on some of the small details along the way here that went down, for instance, if you watched the vixen last night, you know, Tom was very convinced that he was going to go home part of that. I'm sure is as they mentioned last night on the podcast that he is talking about I need to like just play dead. But also part of it is that he genuinely believed that he was going home last night. He talked to Kato before the election about how they Natalie low and Ricky brought him into a room. And they're like, hey, so we're going to keep we're going to keep you. And he was like they're just trying to make me comfortable if for the veto. So I don't win it. They. They want me gone. They're lying to me. I know it. And so he was very convinced me. He bet Cato a beer as you saw. Yeah, he's Hugh. He was not trusting that pitch last night. And they had their little chop before the the episode. And he's is like, you know, I'll be very surprised if if they say your name tonight, and in Kato talks a bit about hypotheticals, but he you can tell that he kind of is on the same page in things. And as we see through the episode really thinks that he's that he's the one that staying Thomas going, so tell them how to convince. It's again, it's it's like every time one of them has an idea, and they're able to convince the other one it happens to be the wrong idea. Why couldn't Tom convince Cato of this when Katie was h he could have done something about it. Why couldn't Kato stop Tom from from from, you know, playing murder mystery. I don't know about these things Kato can only like they can only convince each other of things that are totally inconsequential that or not going to help whatsoever. Yes. Ridiculous. All right. So as you saw on the episode last night, we did get Kato evicted by voter five zero. And Tom was shocked. Yeah. And he well one his shocked. He's staying and. Yeah. Like, he's not he's not expecting this at all. And now he's gotta figure out going on from here. Whether he wants to win this thing next. Didn't go well for him last. It's Charles true. People were talking about how Ricky was asking to have Kato hold the door open. When it was like do. I do I open the door open the door. It is this allowed guys my luck to do this. I've only seen like four other people leave. But I can't really remember. Did they open it? Somebody else using part of the game for Kato kaylin. How does the door open? Ricky was hoping his wife would be in the audience. That's why he wanted to see through the door. He thought maybe he'd get glimpse of her. I believe I believe that was what was going on there like do people that aren't even up for auction to their family members, usually come to the taping. Like, we'll that's what they were. Like did does. She is she coming to all of them. He's like, I don't know. I would imagine that even if they did have the family members come that. There would be like, no you're sitting not incite of the door. You can't give any signals. No collusion in big brother, not allowed especially especially a guy like Ricky. I'm sure he's got plenty of football signals. He talked about it with his wife beforehand. Still know how you communicate such thing. But. I'm sure that he's got something. So after the vixen, Tom the feeds come comeback. Tom Kato, there's already Tom candy Dina entail. Mar we're talking and Tom was explaining about like, you know. I really thought I was going to go, and he was talking about how you know. Basically, what happened was he had his show on MTV? He'd worked so hard to get a show onto onto TV. And it was like the height of his success. And then boom, he was hit with a cancer diagnosis in the middle of all of that. And kind of like wrecked his whole trajectory. And so he just he's explaining what he's always feels like the rug is gonna get pulled out from under him ever since that moment that like something else is gonna come these. So he's always been just like a little bit pessimistic. And it's kind of a touching moment. Candy goes gets up and she hugs him use. I'm so glad you're here, Tom. And so that that was going on there. I love their relationship. I like, I don't know. I just really especially now because like they really need each other. Just the conversations that they have always been really genuine. And I think that like soon as Kato leaves the house like the energy changes, and you can just even everyone's kind of talking about it saying like, you know, like I really like him. I think he's going to be a little bit more calm now. Like, you can tell that the perception is that Cato was like, maybe like a bad influence on Tom and not, you know, heart of their their partnership might be why he acted a little bit the way he did. And there's this little like this lightness to the vibe as soon as the episode ends and Cato's gone. But that was like a really nice conversation in. I again, really enjoy the the the vibe between candy, and Tom, and I think that she's like Kato acted like he had all of the game like perceptions to feed to Tom, but I actually feel candies actually got. Good envy. Actually, this is the partner that he actually means. So I'm like really hoping that this is going to come together and work out something, I think to your point about the, you know, there's certainly more Tom cheche talking that we'll get to. But, but I think there's something to this idea that all now that we got rid of Kato like there's there's this sort of narrative creation that goes on in your head when you're trying to be defensive about something or trying to create a narrative in where in which you're the hero, right? Where if Tom and Cato are these crazy villains and they've done such terrible things to you. But all they really did was play murder mystery and then ever since then they've just been like Chillan, it's hard to like continually convinced yourself that there's such terrible people because they're not doing anything. So I think that when you are able to take Kato out of the game. And now, it's Tom. It's like, okay. Here we go. Now, it can start to make sense of this. The problem was Kato. And so now that it's just Tom. It's not as much of a problem anymore. You know, Tom without Kato is really a lot better. And that explains why my you know, inside narrative is not matching the outside narrative. It's it's all because of Kato. And so the, you know, you're able to sort of like, okay, this I can make sense of this in my head. I can I can rationalize this, well and Lolo and like Lolo, especially, but Lolo and Natalie tend to do this host fiction thing, we saw it after they voted out Ryan where they they kind of like over talk the reasoning who why they got there to like justify because we see we see this after Ryan goes where Lolo is like kind of feeling a little guilty. She has like cures, and then she's like what they did. They weren't including us on anything. And like they would've flipped on us. And they they were tired with each other in like justify like you can tell that there's like a little part of her. That's like. Oh shit. Did. I like this look bad or you know, was I may be maybe take this too far. And then it's like they go back to this like, no, no. And we see them do this tonight or last night. I don't know again. I don't know what time is of. But we see them do it again last night after Kato goes being like, you know, 'cause there's conversation about UK will Thomas ago next super nicely. I think team are says it like, oh, he's a great guy. But like he gotta go next. And then. Yeah, Lolo again is like, you know, like, they just they just didn't stick with us. And they would have they would have picked up candy anyway. And like just creating this like they would have they would have gone against us. Anyway, trying to justify like everything that just happened in the last insane wheat. So so they're definitely doing some like narrative twisting till like almost sued their own like there's a little piece of their of their consciousness inside of them saying like was it really that bad was like was really they were such terrible people. Why they go even like even harder with the justifications is, you know, the the the harder you find it to to justify the harder you need to search for justifications in the firm or you need to be in your position. Because otherwise, you expose yourself to the terrifying notion that oh, I might be wrong. No. And they they all like seek each other for validation of like what they're doing. So and this this happens every season on big. Yeah. This is very very typical behavior. It's just it's made all the worse when you know that these jury member's watching types, it's one thing to do this. You know when it's this. This can be in its own twisted way, a kind of team building a kind of you know. No way to keep people from bonding with others and working with you and so on and so forth, but you can't use this particular tactic on celebrity big, brother. It is not an effective one because they will see it. So you really you really gotta be careful here. Yeah. And there's nothing about this season. That has been careful. I will say so yesterday yesterday, I talked about how none of these people are playing well is strategically this house is is just a big mess. So just pick pick your person and just bring. Okay, just do whatever you want because nobody deserves to win this game. I says there's no such thing as deserving and big brother. That's pretty much gospel. I have I have I I was I was thinking about it. I was watching a candy on the feeds, and I was just like, you know, what? Candies. My person I'm all in on candy. I just love her. I'm like I'm loving. I mean, I feel like, you know. Com isn't long for the world. But like seeing him and candy like I'm all in on the two of them. Now, candy isn't incredible. And she's really rising up. Now, we're really getting this e more from her which I'm so here for she's just like the only normal person in that house. She's intelligent. She's well dressed. She's poised. She's successful. I'm all just sitting in the corner. While all of this is like just popping off to minding your own business. And you could like give you little lake like scenes of her kind of like a little bit aside. I've like it's so it's so under the radar like, she's just low key, shady, I love it. I saw someone comments about like, you know, man. I wish I had her style since she's always looking good in the house. I was you know, what she is always looking good in that. She is. Kevin got linka. Like an update on like how you feel but like candies outfit every day like. I think I here for like parents like I wasn't sure about the black lipstick at first. But like I'm in I'm into it. Now, I'm good if it's black. I feel like it's like a navy blue or. And meeting semantics. Look, I can't pay that close. I want you to I. I want your take on candy's look. Yes. So we're also going to get Natalie Lolo and Ricky talking about again K Kato's Vic shin and how you know. He deserved it. And everything they're also going to talk about who who had the power who had it who. Do we think was it you Ricky? With me. It was tame aren't let let's be really was are they agree. It was it was probably time. Right. They could see why she would be the favourite. Yeah. I mean who couldn't see she be favorite? So I mean, we we got the announcement during the episode that it's expired, so it's all all this a matter anymore. But they they recognize that probably makes the most sense. So we're going to get a conversation between Tom and Lolo. Tom is going to be like, hey, look. Again. I'm sorry. He has already politics. He's in again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If I came off in a way that not intend to I really I did not want to make anybody feel uncomfortable. I I was just just trying to have some fun. I really was. I would they introduced this. Twist this power. And I was like, hey, like, I'm sure they want content of people trying to find out who has the power. That's the point of introducing the power and telling us about it and not telling us who it was. So I was like, hey, let's play murder mystery. Let's find out who has the power. I did not mean for it to make anyone feel uncomfortable or to make you feel uncomfortable in in our alliance that was not my intention, and I'm sorry. If it came off that way. Yeah. The whole conversation was so mad at and very interesting to watch just because Tom goes on and on about like, his realizing that he's sort of playing a character. And that it's still a TV show, and he is like all this experience TV. And so like, he's always thinking about a scenes, and he thinks it would be really funny to have all of these like, you know, spliced together clips of him like interrogating different people about who like who has the power. And that he really thought it would be really funny, and that's what he was trying to play up, and like, well, let's kind of like playing on being like I like I really never thought of it that way. But like, you know, everyone's really paranoid. And like we're playing a game and people, you know, like didn't take it funny. Yeah. You're running around like a crazy person. Like lumps wasn't wasn't mind tonight. I see where you're coming from though. And I apologize. Weird though this conversation like what strikes me about it is that lake Tom Thomas kind of explaining and he's like recognizing that was not my intention like I was really just thinking about it from an entertainment standpoint. And that was my mistake, and blah, blah, blah. And like, she's just like, yeah. Like, you really really acting like a maniac like you can't do that again, Tom. And like, no point just she ever knowledge any of her behavior at any point like it. She really has this perception that everything that went on between the alliance of five in the last week is somehow just traced back to like all things to just be traced back to Tom how and how he acted about the power. And if it weren't for that, then like, none of the things that were said would be settling. She doesn't even acknowledge her place in it at all. It's absolutely frustrating to watch because. Yes, you can totally recognize that, you know, not great gameplay from Thomson like you alienated. People in your alliance by like, you know, interrogating them and stuff like that. But she's just like, yeah. Like, you will you really you really shouldn't have done that and is explaining that part away in. It's just like. Oh, yeah. And you know, let's forget about all the times that we were all screaming at each other. And you know. Accusing each other of being things that maybe don't you shouldn't be, you know, saying on. Yes. Does this look very little acknowledgement or understanding of what of what Thomas saying where he's he's trying to explain where he was coming from. And she is hearing what he's saying. But she's not accepting what he's saying. And so like when when Thomas saying this, this is what happened? I just wanted to play murder mystery, blah, blah, blah. She's like just promise you go crazy again. He's he just explained that. He wasn't like he has not have right? But you know, this is still a positive conversation. I do think that Lola this softened Tom in Lola's is. And I do think that she she tried in her own way here in this conversation. And I do think that she kind of believed him a little bit about this. And I feel like she was feeling okay about this. And she as she bushy. Of course, is going to say something along the lines of, you know, if you just stayed true, sorry, if you hadn't been so crazy, we would have stayed true to the alliance, of course, is still all on you being crazy. But. You know, all of that. I I just wanna have fun. I just want to be nice, and I don't want to have to worry about winning. I don't even I don't even wanna be h. That too. Yes too stressful. I don't even want to win. Pretty sure this is. Partly partly genuine on Tom's part in the sense that he is genuinely explaining where you came from. And I think he's trying to like let's bring the intensity levels down. Although I think this part of it was almost definitely strategy going back to what he talked about with just play dead because he is going to end up winning this h so pretty certainly he could have changed his mind. But I think that he was he was intentionally trying to play up the, oh, I'm not even trying anymore guys. Like he does. I think you have to think that it's pretty obvious to everyone else. But he like from the moment that Cato's, well, even before because he was expecting that go. He's acting the whole evening like let's just have fun like like. You know, totally downplaying threat level, and you take Kato out, and he's kind of a little bit like he's acting like defeated, but not like Moreau's about it. Like, he's still. He's still has a pretty good attitude about it. But he's just like, oh, yeah. That h h no it was not fun. Let's never do that again. No shots for a couple of hours. So Natalie Tae, mar and Ricky you're gonna ask about how lo-lose talk with Tom went Lolo explains and Natalie's just like not having it. She's really anti this conversation with Tom. She's like, you don't believe that to you. Like, there's like a moment where you actually can see that Lolo did kind of take some truth in. It was like, well, I think it was like she says something like, well, even you know, there's there's a little bit of truth to every Joe, and then like Natalie and Ricky and taymor all just like, no absolutely not what happened like it was not. There is nothing about how he was acting that was intentional as as a as a TV moment, and they like speak to other moments where think they said something about like, oh like when Rossen Marissa were like trying to like play up like a scene like they acknowledged. And like there was never any likes moment where Tom was like acknowledging that he was like playing it for the camera. So it's like because he didn't like say it to bam like in in the moment that it was happening. Like, I'm just playing this up for TV like that they're saying that that couldn't have possibly been what he was doing. And they just shut load other like, no, no this big the. Bill Bill hall in the chat points out correctly. They were completely dismissive of everything is telling him who's it was weird in this moment where I was like man, Natalie really competing for the I'm going to lose jury votes. Spot with Lola right now, low low is being the better one in this conversation. Risky business here Natalie. Yeah. New luck where it's like lows. We'll maybe he's not that bad. And then they're just like, no, no, absolutely not. That's bullshit. Oh, yeah. He's he's cockiness just got him. He's she goes on ego. Like, she's yeah. I just seen her say like he's a nice guy, but he's got to go. And then as soon as she sees like Lolo talking about like, well, like maybe there is like a little bit of shirts that she's like. Nope. He's paranoid. He's cocky is ego got to them. That's what happened is just like, okay. Never mind. I won't bring it up again. The again, like they're going to get out of the house the foreign plays. Like everybody saw on the show. And if you watch the feeds, especially, you know, Tom did not care who had the power he genu. He was all about Rick. If anybody has anything to complain about. It's maybe Ricky, but even Ricky should be able to be understand like I was going to come in for him. Apart from that he genuinely he's said multiple times. I don't care who has the power. I'm just going after Ricky this is just like to have some fun and to throw up a little bit of a smokescreen like they're going to they're going to be like, oh, they're not really gonna know that they've made a mistake. But let's let's. So candy and DNA talked a little bit about what they would do if they want each both agree, Natalie and Lolo on the block. Let's do it. Yes. Scott can't they're they're talking about. What happens if there's the other side gots it who's going to go up, Tom and one of them. And then they're saying, you know, what we ought to break up those three. What are what's the way that we break up three candy correctly, in my opinion as us as that? You gotta break up Lolo and not at least. So that is good news. Thank you candy can also talked with Tom about what what he would do. And he's like I thought about it yet and she pitches. Like, hey, not only in Lolo. You gotta take them out. If they if three of them Natalie Lolo and Ricky they stay in the game after this week. They will be the they will have a majority in the house. They're they're going to be they're going to be too dangerous. That's just math. Yeah. Well almost. So. Yeah, I mean, it's it's. Crazy stuff here. And basically what we're looking at heading into the H h you got candy Dina, Tom on one side. They're all presumably, we presume Tom would nominate the women all going to be nominating Natalie and Lolo with Natalie as the presumed target, and then you have on the other side, Ricky lo Lolo and Natalie fighting for the H O H with Tom as the presumed target with candy likely going on the block next to him. So and they're expecting it's going to be some sort of physical competition because it's been a lot of non-physical the last couple, and so you gotta think like the three athletes versus Tom green, dean alone and candy like what they're they're going in very confident into this HOA shot, you know, the girls and Ricky so they're expecting physical, and I was concerned with. The previous your wage the tame are deciding to win, and then you know, again, I feel like she made the right call here in keeping in in going after Tom and Cato, but the winning of the h h was the really really terrible call and would likely lead to a rookie or Natalie win. And that was presumably going to be the turning point. That's what I said I was potentially wrong here because we did get the turning point here. The the unlikely scenario Tom is going to win the HOA. It was the giant rolling dice competition. The one that I always remember it for being the veto that that Devon. Went home on. Sixteen. Apparently, remember, hosted it. Yeah. Omarosa there. Expecting that. They not what they talk about for most of the rest of the night. The omarosa. Yeah. It makes perfect sense to me that Tom won this competition. It's all about figuring out the the the most the best path to get to the side of the thing. So sorry, my technically ship into my American injury podcast. I'm really grated describing physical things. So you're welcome. But. The optimal path to get to the correct side of the die is is how to do this. So I this seems like it would be in Tom's wheelhouse. And so he did end up winning it. And I tweeted out this morning when I saw I was just like all praise Tom green for the second time in a row. He has saved this season from itself, he has stopped the steam steamroll and and giving us a game. Again, was this good for Tom. It's good in the sense that he's not going to be a victim this week, but him winning the wage is not great for him in general because he is going to be a massive target heading into the next week, which is going to be a double of addiction. I very much expect the Tom is the most likely candidate for being a victim in the double vision. But look Tom was never Thomas. Never the this wondrous strategic player that the that is Tom is is is dying for the. Good of the good of the show. He is. He's just he's he's brought us the entertainment we need. I said he is like a little piece of chaos at the big, brother. God's have injected into the season the same ones that gave us topazes vote and and big brother, Canada one. It's just he's he's just giving us what we need to keep the season going to keep it alive. Every time. We think it's going to die Tom green steps in. And he says no not today, we do not die on this day. We continue on celebrity big brother two. You're going to need. Same equally excited Taryn. That's all I have to say. Yeah. Natalie's pissed. She's not happy about this. What are the odds? What are the odds? Tom would win. There. Yeah there. This is the worst possible at one insignia. Math again. Yeah, they're not they're not pleased about this. That. Not only and tame are kind of talking in in the bedroom after a little bit later after they come back, and they're like well get like, what are you gonna do like win win the veto? I guess I like what are we gonna do like tomorrow? There's nothing we can do. I love like shorter uses with like she's like, well, that's what happened. The like. What are we going to complain about it? Yeah. Net will not always talking to low low, and they're our going to be targeted. We're going to be targeted. That's that's annoying. Probably be mean, Ricky, and then, you know, you'll go up on the block if we win the veto Lolo and. Natalie only also go on. About well. Tom can't win in the end. He can't win. He's not going to get any jury votes that Tom. Like little. You're your Natalie campaigning real hard for Lolo to win the game. Last night. I still don't think that. It's not it's enough. I don't think Natalie's campaigning enough for low to you know, erase what's been done thus far. But yeah, she's yeah. She's really anti Tom last may until later when it's time to hang out in the H room. But that's neither here nor there the the the but kissing will commence put the lipstick. I'll let's go. Yes. So Tom Tom has a conversation with Natalie later in the night where? He she he explains the same the same stuff to her that he was explaining to Lolo like I was just trying to on with it. You know? This murder mystery and Natalie who previously. Do you know way to Tom? She is like. Yeah. That makes sense. Which like, yeah. Good. Don't tell him. You don't believe him. But it was funny. Thirty. I'm breaking my co host this morning. We also got Natalie Samar tame, mar taymor was also not happy about this outcome. Okay. Kato's probably happy. He's pro. She's he's probably happy that Tom. Guess what Tom's going out next? So it doesn't it doesn't even matter. It just it just hurts. It hurts me. It hurts me to see Tom get this far. It hurts me that he might get to the end. It hurts this league. I can't handle this the good people bad people narrative, and like now home is like the sole Representative of like the bad side. And it's just like, oh, how dare Tom green get to the end what arable person by when you're on the other side of it. These are the things you tell yourself feel better. So. Lola going to join them. And and then they're gonna they're gonna turn around onto taymor like, you know, really taymor. This is all your fault because you made us keep Natalie are sorry now he was saying this you made us keep candy. Candy who she is playing both sides. She is she probably through that h h which if she did could Joe. It sounds like there is a situation where she could have picked Tom or something like that. And she didn't early. Yeah. This was another another knockout style competition where you pick your opponent. I believe and so obviously, she was not anti Tom because she's not stupid. And so they were very mad about that. This really was this Joey candy vote was hugely important, and you know. It's it's really worked out in Tom's favor. Here. So they're mad at taymor for keeping candy. Like, I I can't believe candies doing this to us after week saved her. Like one. Yeah. Like, and the my favorite part of this whole conversation. So they're they're talking about. Yeah. So now, Delhi and willow seem to really think that candy was throwing it in Timaru. Now, she's not really doing that. And they're like, well, she's playing both sides. She didn't need to win this competition. Like, she probably through it. Like, she's playing he's been playing both sides. And then you're like, yeah. That's what we said. Well, if you had told me this I would not have kept her like on. This is very this is brand new information. I had zero idea that candy has been playing both sides. This is outrageous. And they're like we told you that. Yeah. And they're like candy. She's just going to get to the end. She has no blood on our hands. She's gonna win this thing in tamers like. You're not gonna she's not to get any votes. And they're like are you serious? Yeah. Of course, she will. I I'm a little concerned that taymor is endgame was to genuinely take candy thinking she would beat her. I think that is very possible. At this point, I'm concerned. But I'm now kind of hoping. I was watching this and try and figure is she acting like she playing this up. But she genuinely was just like she really thinks that candy is a is a, you know, a non factor in this old game. And that is going to be a mistake for her. That we might see sooner rather than later. So. Well, we'll see we'll see there's there's certainly a possibility that anytime taymor is talking with Natalie and Lolo that she is not being entirely genuine. We know that she is more attached to candy than we think. That's why I'm saying like I feel like potentially what happened in this conversation was that she was doing her regular thing of like. Yeah. Candy sucks. Bubba book weight. She's going to win hold on. Wait a minute that doesn't that does not not good with what I was thinking about because I was thinking about betraying you and taking her. That's I don't like that idea. What do I do? Now. Where's deana at? Deana talk to Tom late at night. And they don't really there's nothing really of importance in this conversation. She's winning this still no real plan from Tom. He has not really given up what he plans on doing with the nomination. So as of right now anything could have there's a chance than Tom. Our savior makes a terrible mistake. Now. Sharon, don't put that into the universe wonderful piece as so far. I really just hope that. Candy is in his ear enough to, you know, get him to make they're like, I hope that candy swoop sane in Cato's observations, and, you know, get some on the right path with it needs to be Natalie Enloe, and that he's not to fixated on on this rookie things still because that like that's not that's not the best player. I mean it all comes down to the veto anyway. But the best situation is you put Natalie and Lola up on the block, and perhaps Ricky isn't even in the right because we have enough people that Ricky might negative. I got a tweet from Nick raider on Twitter who suggested this for Tom, which I'm actually kind of on board with he said Tom's plan should be to put Natalie entail, mar on the block because basically what happens here is that if they both stay on the block, then you're looking at a tie vote. You're looking at Ricky and Lolo keeping Natalie you're looking at candy and Dina keeping taymor. You get to a break the tie still the vix Natalie, but really enforce these two sides. So that you tame are just had Ricky and Lolo vote against her potentially. And and then it pairs them off a little bit more to so now now, it seems like candy and dean are working together along with Tamar versus low low and Ricky, and maybe you stay out of the spotlight a little more and gets taymor mad at them in all of this stuff. I'm on board. Tom doesn't really have anything to lose. As long as he feels good enough that Dina in candy won't flip. You're putting a lot like it's risky it like from logic standpoint. It totally makes sense. But you're it's you're putting a lot in the hands of people that you don't really have control of. And I know those are the two most stable people in the house in terms of like not blowing up and changing lands and stuff like that. But I would I would still be like with this particular house in the climate that we've seen this far. I I would be a little hesitant to put yourself in a situation where there's a very real possibility that it's like K mart that goes. And then the three are still together. You don't end up with two of the three on the block on addiction night. Like that is kind of. Here's the thing though. That's certainly possible. But if that happens, then Tom screwed anyway, because that means that candy Ordina started working with the trio, which means he's he would have been screwed anyway because they would have been working with the trio, and he would have been on the outs. And he's already on the outs. I feel like I get Tom doesn't have that much to lose. I'm I'm pretty on board with this. This. We actually we played a mini game of big brother at alive. No at all's. And I actually did this move at seven and it worked. So I can vouch for it. There you go tested van it worked once it will always work. Yes. I did it to get Kirsten out if you will. Still will not forgive that. I don't imagine. So I really I mean, I don't think that he will do this move. But you know, fun to think about it's possible. It would be it would be fun to to watch it out that way. But I I kind of see Tom as being more likely to just go straight, like not get cute with it. And. Go for the straightforward put to the two three on the block. And if one of them wins Beata, the other one goes up, but. Yeah. And I I think the candy will push for Lolo and Natalie there's certainly a chance that Tom wants Ricky. He's certainly been set on Ricky for a long time. However, he did talk to Kato I believe two days ago about if we want H, h maybe we should try to cut a deal with Ricky and go after the women. So hard to say either way, I think almost certainly we're gonna lose one of Ricky lo lo or Natalie. There is a part of me that is that is like for the novelty of it at the very least like what if we lost Ricky? And then Tom, and it really is just like the final five or all women like that's never happened before that. So women to go in like, the the fact that we're in a situation where there's five women and two men left in a game that started with five women and seven men like it's it's absolutely insane. And for it to end up with like, a final five all the the men just go out when sequence like that would be absolutely incredible. Just like just from you know, making history standpoint. And I think it'd be really entertainment see how is out for for memorable. We'd always be able to look back and be like remember that season where it was all women in the end. Yeah. I'm here for it. It's like the one. Bringing. And I want him to win even though it seems like a very difficult path at this point. But if it's not going to happen this way, I would love it to be, you know, five women at the end, it's like the reverse Micronesia where they unintentionally become. So that's what's going on. Again. There's there's not a whole lot to update here apart from just the fact that Tom won this HR wage, we're going to get more of an idea of what he's planning today. I'm sure and I will be back tomorrow morning at eleven am eastern to update you on everything. But Thomas planning and everything else that happens. I can't wait a little bit of dancing late night. Tom green got a tribe called quest as his music, and he's like dancing with the key. And like he like rocked a couple lines new tribe called quest. And so leads to we've got another like at least we get Tom with the longer h rain. So we got you know, like a little bit more Rolette. Will he wasn't relaxed the last time, but I think this one will be a little bit better. I am feeling optimistic about this HOA waste for Tom. Yeah. I if anyone is going to be h wage for the V long period of five days, or whatever it is. I'm happy. It's Tom the last time. It was Tom. He gave us some good feed. So hopefully, hopefully, we're good, it seems like, you know, it seems like the Natalie Ricky Lolo group here, they are not they're not doing the like death sleep sort of thing. They're doing like, we're super pissed or we're going to be bitter about it than which is usually a little. More fun than the death sleep. So that's good. So yeah, I I think I think we're hopefully in for a good week. You're hopefully, it's not too straightforward. Either way. I think just the fact that we're seeing a little bit of a power shift is is something here. So. Is there's hope for the season yet. We ought to take what we can get at this point. You know, I it's last time last week. You were saying that no we were in for the steamroll, and we were just saying, well, at least we get a Tom green h to make it fun. And look at what happened in how weak a lot. And the, you know things shifted in that there is still part of the core that you we worry about steamrolling, but Tom becomes the underdog and wins HOA. And so now, we don't have to worry about quite the same steamroll. So let me just just explain to everyone. How bad this how how much Tom has saved us this season. Because if Tom doesn't flip on that alliance. They bet alliance has basically one all of the competitions this far. I saw somebody. I wish I could credit them on Reddit who talked about this like probably what would have happened in that previous h h the tame are one is that if they hadn't been intentionally trying to get Kato and Tom out of the competition, if they had been working the other way trying to get taymor and candy and Dina out of the competition. Then Hato probably one that. And so it would have been Kato Tom Kato with low low winning vetoes, and Tom Cato winning the vetoes, and they would have just just trampled over everyone. And again, Tom winning this H wage. So it's like would have been it would have been just such a steamroll. It really would have been they would've just stopped all the way to the end. But Tom was like no not today. Butterfly effect. Yeah. We'll never know though. It's okay. I'm happy with this timeline. It's perfect. I mean, it's it's been entertaining. I I hope that if this week is going to be, you know, entertaining that it's not necessarily the same kind of entertaining as as the the last one. But I wanna see I wanna see them scramble a little bit as long as long as Alison Gardner doesn't need to told you stop being like callous towards each other. And it's more. So just like them all being pissed off. And maybe some throwing throwing each other under the bus ie be cool to wait a minute. Did you did you see what just happened? Tom. Just put me on the block. It was so threatening. I. I just. Miserly followed through with the threats from the previous week where he gave me that look. Threatening looks I yeah, I wonder what the speech is gonna look like it's going to be very threatening. All right. That's all we've got for you today. Make sure you find us on Twitter. I'm at Armstrong Taryn, January can people find you? I at Jenny autumn. There you go. Like, I said it'll be back tomorrow morning and eleven AM eastern to update you on everything that happens today on the feeds and then tomorrow night, we will have the roundtable where we will update the stock watch and make more purchases we have a lot of money lost here as Alexandra pointed out on Twitter when she posted the stock watch statistics here. It's more interesting. When you lose more people along the week because you can't you can't sell and prepare for their eviction rob who is playing along in. This doc watch has lost fifteen dollars worth of shares with the addiction of Joey and Kato Melissa with eleven dollars lost showing Kato and Brentwood four dollars lost myself with three. Joey eviction especially with like, you know, the entire community going into that live in fiction, not really knowing what the hell is going to happen. Think that's screwed up a lot of people whose stock watch. So. Yeah, it was it was a real blunt side. And now, none of us. None of us have any candy. So I almost bought some candy shares. But I was like she's probably leaving his thrown my money away. I didn't buy them because I was just like, yeah. Well, yeah. I I the reason I lost lessons because I bought Joey when he was cheap Robin Melissa bought him when he was expensive in right about to go door. So to be good at with money at all. I'm not good with either of these things. So. All right. So make sure you check that out tomorrow night. I'm sure there's going to be plenty of stuff to talk about as well. So lots of great stuff. Have you winter of Stein is going to come out today? I believe at some point. So that's a great staff. Lots of great stuff. Thank you everyone for joining us. Cenex done. Space some regions are vast and empty other areas. We call closets. Fortunately, Kevin from the container store has answers. Right. Kevin. What gives you the power over space? I'd say alpha, customizable, closets with free, design and Elvis adjustable shelving. 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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 4

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CBB2 | Monday Morning Live Feeds Update Feb 4

"John. Big brother. Yes. Drama strategy in standing. Sees. No. Roseanne that he could do to Morrow. He will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed up date for February fourth. I'm going to turn Armstrong. And with me today is the magnificent math local magnificent. Hello. Hi, tehran. Hi, everyone viewing rate to be bag. Everyone's been enjoying celebrity big brother to been pretty wild ride us far. And I think all of those that were like waiting for dramatic build season got one that you are like living in relishing very moment. Because you know, this is as much as the feed keep cutting and don't they put all this stuff in the episode? Just take it for what it is. And be grateful that we're even getting live entertainment. Yes. We are here to talk to you about everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds it was bit of a slow day here. So it's gonna be a quicker update. There's I think more drama in the sports world and in the big brother twenty world than there was in pay for the celebrity last night. Oh, yeah. So no way gracious fool boy. Oh boy. So let's talk about the feeds yesterday as I mentioned was very slow day. However, we started the day with lots of stuff that wasn't important, but we also had taymor Natalie Lolo and Ricky talking about candy that they feel threatened by candy. They feel like she was trying to help Kato in the H competition. So they wanna make sure that Kato or that candy is also on the hit list soon. Yeah. Getting to that point of the game where you know, you just need to find any kind of reason to get rid of people, even if you've been working with them to a certain degree. I mean, I know that like pay Marin candy have been sort of like, you know, making up after quite a motorist relationship in that house. But at the same time you really got to start thinking about your any game. And is somebody that you really think that you can take the end does she have the most winners equity right now is she kind of like the most liked in the house, or at least the least disliked in the house. Can you win a vote against there? And I think that. I, you know, whether or not it's about her helping Kato or if it's about low feeling that she will have the vote in the end because she's been popping off when everybody as much the point the finger at other people kind of remains to be seen. But I mean the point of the game where you got to really start thinking. Hey, is this somebody that I can get to the end is it? It's getting down to the wire. Yeah. My favorite my favorite current subplot on the big brother celebrity to live feeds is Natalie and low low talking about how other people won't have jury votes to win the game. I mean, this is gonna draft with them friends. And I was I was really really hoping like my perfect team in my mind at the time would have been Jonathan. Kato and Natalie, and I really really wanted Natalie because I was like I was battling with the two of willower Natalie. And I'm like, I really didn't that Lola's mouth when to get her in trouble a lot more than Natalie. I think that out of anybody out of the two Nelly definitely is the superior player because he seems to reserved a little bit more thankful for she speaks. But I mean, I two of them they really they really really should not be talking about anybody about these because you have been running around this house. Learn about like. Come on talk about self awareness. Yes. We did also get Kato, and Tom I mentioned yesterday that Tom was trying to maintain a positive attitude, but then after his conversation with Ricky and tame mar about how they need to apologize because they're they're misogynists and all of this stuff. Tom's sort of interest in the game has been waning. He is talking about kind of like if I win the veto. I'll just use it on the UK toe and kennels like, oh if I wouldn't veto all use it on you. And they're like, oh, no, no. I wouldn't let you do that. They're just kind of like, oh man wonder when do we leave again why? When do we stop being accused of things that are going to ruin career, right? Definitely like hard to sit there, and you know, kind of be N power, and the people that you were against sort of gaining that power then it's kind of like a swallow. But one thing that I noticed I dunno civically with older Cass or just, you know, we've been getting so much drama. It's more notable now. But I just feel like they get straight down to the game. They're playing hard and in a minute like. Like there's like opposition to them. It's like they kind of just shut down. And it's like, okay. Well, if they're like who good of sports at the like, oh, well, you know, like you guys got me like, we were you. But it's fine. Like I want to keep fighting come on. There's a one of you will say one of you will state's gonna have to about which we're gonna do when the other one. Yes, they do eventually get there by the end of the day. But but yeah, they're definitely subdued here. Tom even said one point during the day. He was like, oh like my my instincts like everything in me wants to be an instigator right now and to be Tom green. But he feels like he can't because of like the stuff going around that like he needs to make sure that people know that he is not attacking anyone like he doesn't want to have that image something that I saw when I was researching Tom green prior to the season is that for a long time. There was a rumor there still is I guess that. He did this very offense. Prank where he went to a bar mitzvah dressed as Hitler. And like, whoa. That's terrible. Like never happened. As far as I'm aware. He denies it to this day. There's no footage of it is nobody in everything's this is the case. There was just like a rumor that was started. But it's like been haunting his career forever. I'm sure this is something that like he is like I do not want anything like this to be like surrounding me. So he is trying to be on his best behavior. I think to make sure like, hey, let's I don't. I don't I don't need any of this right now. This is not worth the damage. It can do to my career. Right. And I mean, I feel you know of anything production is getting you know. Privy to that because they seem to be editing. Those little way that show the leaf the motto confrontation, especially if he gets down to you know, the name calling bullying massage and all of that stuff. It seemed to kinda just when you're away from that which can be frustrating for a lot of levies because they wanna see what is being said. They wanna see what's you willing? These moves behind these players. But at the same time, I can understand, you know, just wanting it to be like, can we say brother here, we just can somebody h nominate two people the money when the veto it not use it move on like, it's so I mean, I I understand it. I mean, it's unfortunate to see it's really hinders somebody's game. But at the end of the day of many are celebrities, so they're thinking about and promoting show when he leaves. So you know, he wants to come to hit show. You know, I feel like in particular production has had sort of like the kid gloves on with these celebrities. I think they did kind of last year as well. I think the basically like. They want drama, but they don't want this kind of drama because if they're never going to get anyone to agree to do the show if they feel like while come on, and then minor rare all tank because people throw around these Asians or whatever. So or I'll just look super terrible on like like in Lolo or Natalie's gays like I'll just look like such a jerk that nobody will ever like me again. So I think they really are trying to be like they want the drama, but they don't want. They don't want people to hate hate anyone on the show because they want celebrities to feel like this is not going to be career suicide for them. Right. Yeah. Hit in especially in today's day and age where like any little thing and the people that have been cancelled both bar don't have viable reasons to be cancelled. But we are living in a state of canto coacher. So I think that people. People believe when a walk on shows that they are being as you know. With the word as Knipe possible. Yes. Just be nice. Yeah. Yeah. These these people these players should have listened to the podcast. Right. Phrase like that was like everybody needs to listen to this with wired reading upcoming season of reality television. Just the people can you know? Inoculate yourself. Nice. It's not that hard lily. So they did they did talk a little bit, Tom and Kato Tom's idea is okay. Maybe if I act pathetic enough like I don't even want to be here at all. Then if you win the veto Kato, you're trying you want to be here. You win the veto. You take yourself off my spirit is broken. I don't even want to be here. I'm so pathetic. Maybe they'll decide it's not even worth voting me out in the vote the replace. That's how we can both. Something. Yeah. I mean, it's something playing dead has worked for some people. It has not a lot. But. What else what else can you do to get where you have been at war with these people for so long, and you like thrown word Beck at each other. That you know, there really is no solution to this other than that somebody has got to go. So I mean, but. You know who knows like sometimes as as quickly as quickly as confrontation in this house, which is particularly with houseguests. Somebody is very likely to say something to rub some light of the wrong way. Especially if someone as volatile as a. So, you know, it is definitely, you know, lifting your behavior in the house. It could work could work probably not going to. But it's something. Yeah. I mean, I think that when you have two people on the block, and you won't both of them to be saved that you have two options. One. Is you make an alliance or some kind of deal with the majority of the house. That's definitely off the table. The other one is this plan, I guess which could fee- radically work in a situation where the replacement nominee is not going to be Dina, and you've won two competitions Dina's one nine and it's going to be you've versus DNA. And there's just no way anybody, no matter. How pathetic you're acting is ever gonna vote Dina off before you. Right. I mean once you sort of like an image for yourself in this game. It's really hard to shed that. That's why the beginning of the game so crucial because that is when you begin to, cultivate, that image. That's when people's first impressions? Will compound, and you just have to it's continuously working against others, impressions of you. And if you've gone so far down one end, it's really really hard to get that that violence. It's hard. Candy is going to do some work here. I mentioned yesterday that tame Mars best move, actually, probably is to target Tom and Cato at this point just because you know, I think her best chance to get to the end and win means not pissing off Natalie low low and Ricky the ideal situation would have been to not win this H and let those two groups go at each other. So that she doesn't have to get involved and give more advantages to one side. However, she's now in this position. And being in this position. I do feel like she just she needs to stay on their good side as much as possible. I do think they will keep her until at least the final five ish. Maybe final four if its final four. That's her best case scenario, I think because she could potentially win against any of the three of them. And all she needs to do is win one competition. It's still not a great spot to be in. But it's better than nothing. However for candy. It's fantastic. If she convinces taymor to turn against those three because that that makes everything. Wonderful for candy. So candy is doing making an attempt here to talk taymor into betraying the group of three. Ricky, lo lo and Natalie in particular, low Natalie because she feels like Natalie is a big threat to win because she thinks that Natalie's just gonna take Lolo Natalie's gonna easily beat low low. And there you go Natalie is the winner of the game. But says it's too early to early. I mean is it though taymor because the game is really like. I mean, I appreciate with candies because it shows a lot of, you know, this is like one of those prime examples of some of the doesn't really know the game coming in and really getting the hang of it. I think this you're less hindered by you'll viewing pass seasons and conventional strategies of the game. So I kind of just you kinda you don't need all that other extra information about the game. You just see like Natalie seems like she is in the best decision right now. That is exactly what we need to get that. That's it. And I think that it's grazing really privatization to sort of use the history that she has with pay more like look at what we've been able to overcome look at like how much been making in this house like she's kind of capitalizing on the good good feel feel good dealing with. They on like together, we might as well just rock this out into the end. And I mean, I guess tame our she's nervous because you don't want to. I mean, she's been going at it with willow on the low. Mosul time. So I don't really want to poke the bear even though she's a bear her. So I get that. But this this game is is so fast. Like, I think that it really I think that really benefit from quick decisions. I do. I mean. Yeah. The too early excuses. I think again, there's reasons for are not to turn on them to earliest, not the reason. Especially when the finale is like just over a week away. But we'll see candy. I think correctly points out if it doesn't happen now, it's not gonna happen which I think is completely correctly again yesterday. I said I think that this week is going to be seen as like this. It's this H wage that allows one of Ricky Lolo sorry, one of Ricky or Natalie to win the game. So I do agree with that. And I do think they still have the best shot at winning the game. Despite the fact that this is tame Mars best hope at this point. I think again winning this h was just disastrous for her in the first place and taymor says, no, no, no, Tom Cato, both have to go. I they both have to go. And that's words like, okay. I think I still think the taymor is doing the right thing with her HOA JR. But her game plan is all wrong. She does not want both Tom and Kato to go. That would be terrible for she wants one of them to win h h. Next week to go after that trio to split them up a little bit that would give some kind of chance. But no, she wants them both gone, and then she wants Dina Khan. And then she wants to turn on them. I think or maybe she doesn't want Deena gun, but still then she wanted to be three three at best to her candy and Dina versus low low Ricky and Natalie in the competitions, which is a wo-. I don't think that's a great spot for you. Like, yeah. I mean, you want I don't know why you would want to get rid of both like tomato at the same time. I really love that we come up with. Chryslers? But yeah, like, you know, get rid of one of them the one hopefully when h h and even if they don't win h h if somebody from your side with though try and go after them openly and not you, and especially this you already had that power. You knew your way to be safe this week. I don't know why even put yourself in addition and just use your power. Let it rob. Yeah. I mean, I think I think he's probably gonna pay more around for a little bit longer. So on that too. I'm not too scared about her demise in this game. But I as far as being a win in the end as someone that's rooting for her. She's really shooting herself in the foot here. So you know, what good is he getting to the end that you can't pull off the win. I believe Brent will be on tonight to recap the the vixen, and we where we will find out who won H, and I'm I'm expecting a large print rand because he I know he's rooting for tame are. So I'm sure he's annoyed at this decision to win h h. So. Candy says look if they both go I'm going to be on the block at least is upon like, I'm going to be in trouble. If both Tom Cato, go and tamers. You'll maybe we'll go on the block, but you'll stay don't worry. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Samar really not not really taking. What candy is saying? She for what it's worth. I don't think candy made a particularly good pitch. This first time she's gonna try again later with a slightly better pitch. But a lot of her pitch revolved around this idea of like, well, if you do this, then I'll be in trouble too. Which came is able to be like well, first of all you're in trouble, homey and second. No, you'll be fine. So so it didn't didn't really work this first time. So she's going to try again later in the day. But for now taymor is is stuck on this idea. Yeah. And that that sort of pitched really ever work for people that are like in this, you know, in alliance, but like not like solid final to like people are like more willing. Oh, it's okay chill. Just lay low this week. I'm in control. I gave it to be. Okay. You're not gonna go home on the more willing to sort of roll the dice with your game. Even if they are and alliance with you. It's not a final twos. Though. I mean, I think you have to kind of like, you kinda you gotta you gotta work it different angle with with somebody like came are. Yeah. Yearly do Lolo Natalie in Ricky are talking about the following the next h they're considering throwing the next one because they have people like taymor willing to do their work for them. So why not throw the next one? And then all be able to compete in the one after that where they're finally ready to turn on those people that are doing the work for them. However, they ultimately decide probably not worth the risk here. Just just win it. They honestly after this week. I could very easily see a situation where they just went out from that point on. You know, from from a mental standpoint they have they've been studying along time, they're certainly capable and then from a physical standpoint, I think they would just completely. They're all three of them are athletes versus non athlete, so any physical competition is going to be just a breeze. Not that there are likely many of them left. Although we said that in big brother twenty and they were a whole lot of them left. So you never know. And given the fact that they really should have been able to win a lot of these in the past and avid and people have still in the house and one we'll keep getting victims. You guys you'll have any use not win these damn competitions. Like, you are the athletes like like Joe with what you can do. So at this point like rowing when there's really lend the Alliant like rowing the H at this late in the game. Like, no like, what are you doing just win the wage retain the power warring for us out here? But once again this thing. Expedited and can change so quickly like you might as well just get as much power as you can sort of the end for your safety at that at the very least. So Tom and Kato are talking again, they they talk about who they would like to see win the game. Now, pretty sure neither of them are going to get their Tom says, no Kato, you're going to do it. You're gonna win. I don't know. It wouldn't it be great though to see to see DNA win. Wouldn't it be great? She's such a great lady. What about candy? It would be awesome to see candy win. Right. Candy and Dina, obviously, I think just to reinforce the point the biggest jury threats in the game. I mean, they so petty. Petty. Like, you got beat. It's fine. Deano Deano really, look I made the case the other day, I genuinely feel like Dina's playing better game than the rest of them. Because of all of the trash they've been talking like, you just can't expect to win a jury vote when you do that. I mean, I sure sure socially speaking Dina is up there. She she's Switzerland right now, I get it. But I mean, maybe it's just the way that I wanted to game I would much rather give them buddy the win if they are instrumental in the progression of the game. And it's like. So. Beena and like. But that's one before. So I don't wanna just completely threw a rock bed. But now, it seems like they're just they're butthurt. So they just they don't want to give the win to anybody else because the both they both have been throwing things back at winning others. So it's like when you get out of the house, and you decompress way still going to go the way or you're gonna go ahead and watch everything he said of until now. His own your case or to win the game. I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's fine. If. He's going to be brother. So I'm more inclined to be different heights of decisions being made. But as of right now, I kind of be kind of wet I will say I have seen arguments. And I think I'm actually kind of on board a little bit here that the DNA. I mean, I pointed this out a while ago. The is is playing like she's playing a floater game. If you watch her in the house, like she has no genuine loyalty to anyone other than loyalty to Jonathan Jonathan's been gone for a long time. Now, she's willing to throw anyone under the bus to like how intentional it is. Who knows? But she will go to anyone be like. Yeah, I'm totally going to work with you all the time. And then go to the other side and be like, yeah, I'm totally working with you. And just the fact that she's such a non threat she's able to slide by for a while. Is it is it like great game play. No. Is it? Good game play. Probably not is it something. Yes. And honestly, I feel like with the entire house. I don't think anybody's playing great. I don't think anybody's playing good. I think that all we're seeing in this house is something. So if you've got something, and you're nice, I do feel like that for me quantifies a winning game honest, though. I mean, okay. Okay. Open to having my mind chain as I said on Twitter like this week. I've been like kingdom hearts craze. So I haven't been able to really notice all of the nuance. Indiana's game to me for someone who was sort of like living in an out like, okay? Okay. There's a high Beena, okay. Okay. I'll go back and watch this. And then in the end if she does win, and you come up with this brilliant podcasts about all. Have made mastermind Dina. I will definitely be like, okay. Like all hell Queen Dina the second coming of June. I will definitely throw at her feet. But as the right now, I'm like a little bit. But at the same time point taking that not everybody's game in this house has been a quote unquote winning games. This is these this particular batch of houseguests are so just like. It is the tossup is generally toss it right now. And like, I also I completely believe me. I see where you're coming from his. Well, I think everyone knows my stance on. Juries in general and voting based on feelings and all of that nonsense. So I'm certainly open to the other thing as well. And honestly, if if it came down to like DNA, or I honestly Dina or Natalie I feel like. I feel like they both played like, and you know, maybe Natalie's played better, but dean has been nicer, and I genuinely could make a case for both of them. Same thing with Dino Ricky Lolo thinks genuinely genuinely has not played well enough to win. So bad. I did not get her. It might it's making me. So mad like everything that I wanted to be Natalie's billion that spot right now. On that one. All right. So. Anyway, Tom Cato are going to go up on the block here. They are nominated by tame, mar and Lolo Natalie Ricky tame are they'll agree Kato is going I know change there. We gotta get rid of Kato. Yep. You're in the course that she even wanted to leave the nomination same. So in Spokane my one of the two is definitely out of any more towards Tom is that the correct assumption right now if they if if keta wins. No it. Oh, if if even the both of them are still in the block that cater needs to go first. Ok okay. So we'll go. Okay. Well, that's great. That's good for my draft. I really did not do. Well. Around. I look I've got people to chat like, no Taryn. We're not here for DNA win stop. It's like listen. I'm not saying I'm here for DNA win. That is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if she won I can understand why. And I actually do feel like she like if anyone deserves. I don't think anyone deserves to win this game. If we could just stop it now and say, no winners, I'd be totally cool with that. I don't think has played well enough to win this game. Yeah. As far as I've said like yes short. I don't think that DNA is I'm with each at. I don't think that they should either. But time look at what your options are going to happen. So far, okay. I mean, we have the historic low in terms of average ranking on the stock watch for these people. It's just you know, it's not exactly a strategic cast here. You gotta take with. Here's my here's my advice for watching the season is just like don't care about the strategy and just feel free to root for whoever you want to root for and just have no qualms about it. Just like, you know, what I am one hundred percent. Edina, STAN go for it. You can be super pleased when Dina wins, and nobody can tell you that she didn't deserve to win. You know, what you can even be a low low? Stan go for it. Do whatever you want because this is just a free for all at this point. If those strange because at the beginning of last even we got to see them on the live in the strategy making a lion talking about who was next to go around. They pull them not to do that. Been like neutered or something. It's like didn't allow them to talk strategy. And they felt like they didn't even know and they were allowed to when they weren't allowed to talk about issues. Like, they'd never got never got the. Now, the running them up just like going based off of emotion in it. Hilarious. If you're someone. That's worshiped you to be inclined probably gonna rip your hair out. But I I've been entertained. Okay. Well, I can't from that. All right. So Tom Cato who talked a little bit about like, okay? If Cato if you do stay if we win h next week they are starting to plan. What what do we do what we do if we h next week? Tom is considering like, okay? Well, we need to target obviously. That trio. Should we put Ricky, you know, you know, what we should probably do because Ricky's probably the one most amenable to some kind of deal. Right. He's the most like he's the least sort of I talked yesterday about how I feel like if anybody is doing this mean stuff with any sort of strategic intent it's Ricky, and so I do feel like it's this is correct call with Tom even even if there's not like a ton of success that they're going to find trying to make I do feel like Ricky is the correct one to try to make a deal with. So he talked about let's potentially try to make a deal with Ricky leave him off the bloc will nominate Lolo and Natalie and then try to be like, hey, Ricky, will it will work together? Secretly, we will take out one of the one of the women, but we're still good. And and maybe there's a chance that he doesn't come free. The next week. He's certainly capable of winning competitions. Again. I actually feel like short doesn't have much of a shot to work. But in terms of like what else do you got? This is probably one of the. Plans. You could come up with. Yeah. I mean, you go for the gophers someone actually like when we talk about the fabled crack in the alliance Ricky's definitely someone that if he isn't cracked yet, you could potentially Greg him seems like he's open to making deal open. Obviously, he's open to billing t- and information to sort of get even the people on his side to do what you want. So. Yeah. I I think it's a good. I think it's a good shy. And I think like they're talking about if they aligned with him like going forward, you know, being able to use Ricky as a means to keeping them safe. Like, I think that the good I think it could potentially work. I mean, whether or not Ricky is going to, you know, think that he's in a spot. Maybe I don't know Ricky has gotten to the point where he's like I'm good now. I'm good. I'm good for the rest of the game. I've made the strikes and needed like cement like, no matter. What I would not be the ones who go home. If you feel that way. Tom Cato SOL if not then this could potentially be that point in the game. Like that like musical theater. We have a thing called at ten o'clock number with things just like hyp- back up again, it's could be that point into game where it's like up big switch with. But I you know, we really have to hope that the tonight's whoever remains of keta were Tom win. The because I mean, I candy would certainly I think do as well or DNA, but they're giving the track record. I think whoever remains of tomor Kate or more likely to win the H. So I'm definitely pulling for that. So we get some kind of shakeup here. But, but honestly, I feel like if if let's say Kato stays, let's say he wins the veto and then wins the and then tries to make a deal with Ricky. I feel like Ricky might be like kind of annoyed because he's Ricky about like, oh, man. We lost power, whatever. But if if I'm Ricky, and I feel like there might be some strategic part of him. That's like this. I'd be pretty pleased with the fact that both of the women are going on the block and that Natalie would probably go home leaving me and Lolo as the final two contenders. Like, oh now Lola's not gonna take Natalie. She's gonna take me, and I'm gonna take Lolo. I definitely beat Lolo. I'm actually kind of okay with this. I'm definitely gonna make deal with you Kato. And then definitely stab you in the back next week. But I'll definitely be okay with what's happening right now at what you gotta get. You. Gotta get your standard quiet on his lung. Not me. I'm good. And you wanna you wanna you wanna get in that the two between like, you know to power players. You wouldn't be in that middle spot where it's like. Okay. Well, let them go at it. And you know, if I get the power one is going to be mad because I'm gonna make a decision that's going to screw one of you. No matter what I'm going to be, you know, it's not gonna be pretty, but he gets me further. So. I could see that happening as well. So we also got again candy pitching to tame our finally a little more effective. This time really just pitching the women need to be targeted. This needs to happen in. We're just gonna let them win the game. They're just going to steamroll and she's starting to break through little bit too taymor. I think KMart says something along the lines of like, I mean, if I did make a move I would have to talk to Tom and Cato. I before I made the move like if veto was used or something that you know, can't use. Yes, if veto is used you should put Natalie on the block, we can get rid of Natalie. She's I I really do feel like candy has some influence here, maybe because of things outside of the house more than strategic things, but that's still something. And so it's definitely possible that something could happen. Although thing is as taymor mentioned. She would have to really talk to Kato and. Tom. I that alone would probably not go very well. But also the veto is going to be played live tonight. So there's not really a lot of opportunity. She can't go to them with a backdoor plan before they even have the veto because that could really blow up backfire. So even if one of them wants to beat is probably not enough time to put together some kind of backdoor Natalie plan, but but I'm mentioning it here because the seeds were planted as unlikely as they are if for some reason Nattily goes home tonight in the first fiction or not there's two victims. But if Natalie goes home tonight, then this is probably why you you have candy to thank to thank for it. And something happened along the day or potentially in the in the time between the veto win and the m-, but like I said, not super likely. Yeah. I mean, if not unprecedented decision audience is not get to see how those get made. You know? Not new so definitely if that were to have been. Video you'll have everything that you need to understand what the hell. But if not then you know, it is what it is. I'm really hoping that I mean, honestly, I don't care anywhere could say that I was really hoping that the Beato wasn't going to be a crappy like last time. But honestly like. Like, oh my God. At this point. All about like team fund is I'm all about that. So, you know. I mean, I would like to see what's the vita that they usually do you run? Go into the ball pay grabbing stuff come back and hit the hit the buzzer. I mean. Yeah, I I'm for any competition where you can tell what's going on one of the when they're more when we're watching live like that's why I know some people weren't a fan of the fact that it was a crapshoot last time, they did the live, and it was a crapshoot, but I enjoy it because it's like I can very clearly see who's in the lead. And what's happening? The even like the famous clown shoe competition where the running back and forth like it's still hard to tell what's happening in just like waiting for somebody to run back. And it's like how many times they run back there. Okay. Something that's like, slow paced. That's very visual that you can see. That's that's what I'm all about for these live competitions. But it's usually something that's not quite that. So, and I know I know that's just my opinion. But it is. I mean, it'll be it'll be fun regardless. I'm just glad that he gives actually watch this live when I've been working like the past. So on that front. I really. Finally. Something that Chad says mentioning a puzzle. Let's not do that. Let's let's not bring back any memories. Although I will say it was very easy to watch on the show. That's all I'm gonna say easy. Sorry. East to understand definitely hard to watch. Yeah. There you go. That's that's good. So that's what we've got for. You. Tonight's episode will consist of the H competition, which I believe is some kind of knockout, I think. So we'll see that. Yes. Taymor is going to win. Then we're going to see the nominations, then we're gonna see the live veto, and then the live vote and division plus exit interview. So I very much doubt that there will be too much juicy nece in between really getting lean lean cuts of the big brother celebrity the season right diet feeds, essentially. You know, you want the full picture BBS? Alexa. This podcast. Alright. So that's what we've got for you today. Anything else that he wanted to bring up on? No, i'm. I hope everyone's been into this thing. It's been great. I've been having a great time. I'm just so happy that everything is going back up. Again, we're going to be getting survivor again. And then big whether Canada looking to be really, really good. So I'm just you know, as always them. I'm glad to be here. All right. So you can follow Armstrong Taryn Amman Amman, Adnan. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Sunday Episode Recap Jan 27

Rob Has a Podcast

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Sunday Episode Recap Jan 27

"Germany. From my apartment. It's rob has a podcast. And now, here's a guy who knows way more about Kato kaylin than I ever wanted to. I am rob sister everybody. Welcome back Sunday night. January twenty seventh nominations are allow are locked deed in maybe they're going to be changing tomorrow night on a Vic shin night. Lots to talk about here on one of the weirdest nights in the history of not just celebrity big, brother. Big brother. We will talk about it. With a great panel here tonight, very excited to have back with us here on the show, you know, her from the big brother candidates, six our own Kirsten McKenna's cars. How are you? I'm good or I think I prefer to call it the reality TV SCO twenty eighteen guessing. Thanks. Yes. Only one that matters come on Curson. How are you doing really? Well. Thank you. I'm joined the season loving it. A little bit upset that Jonathan's not still there. But at least I can hate watch Joey still so everything's happening. We all can of course, woman capping off what incredible weekend for Melissa. How are you? I'm great had a very fun weekend. But this was a very very very interesting episode of big brother, still not even sure what I was watching. Confused, one of my ideas for tonight was that I was going to like just like post like my running diary of watching the show of going through everything. But. That for the winter of Stein. What a weird hour of television. What what did we sign up for here? Did we turn up like I I didn't sign up for that? Very very strange strange. I feel like I don't even wanna talk about some of the strangers that we saw there was a lot of bodily Solomon. No. Brought a note because we got a lot of stuff to talk through. We had a competition we at nominations, and we had plenty of insanity which will get to all that and more plus your questions, hashtag R H A P. So I guess I don't really, you know, a lot happened here tonight so curse. Let me start with you. And we are now a full week into celebrity big, brother. How're you enjoying the ride? This is crazy. So this is my first real celebrity big brother experience because last year I was like Kay can't get to attach because you're gonna miss the end. So just don't really pay too much attention. This is absolute lunacy. I don't understand what's going on most of the time. These people are crazy. And I am living for it. Mostly you still having fun. I'm definitely still having fun. I always love big other celebrity just because I I mean, I wouldn't want to replace regular big brother with it. But I feel like it fills different void where like regular big brother is a lot more intense. And you get a lot more invested in the individual people big brother celebrity is kind of just like a fun version where no one really cares and everyone still friendly with each other. I mean there are there. They have their fair share of blowups. But it's not like, it doesn't get so bitter, and it's more. It's more just fun. And you don't really get as invested which can be fun sometimes. So I I love it. No did everything that's place in this episode Melissa can. Can you tell us that was this story told basically in the time it happened? Where Friday was the live Vic Shen did all of this take place within twenty four hours. I mean, I believe so. But if I'm being totally honest, I don't remember anything about Cato's massage may perhaps that out earlier in the week. Or maybe when the feeds were down that might have been why that might be our answer to why feeds have to be down for nine our massage not explained, actually. Yeah. So I mean a lot went on. I let me let's talk through the actual game ramifications that might take us about four minutes to go through. But after the vote on Friday night there was that one vote which was for Jonathan to stay the vote ended up being cast for candy normally in this situation. Carson this would be candy running around the house. Hey who voted for me who who was that one person show yourself who is the person that voted for me? Instead, this was a lot of confusion about as tame are laid out. Jonathan was in mean girls with Lindsey Lowe hands mom who's in the house. Why was this such a mystery? Exactly, it doesn't make sense. And then at the same time you've Dina going around asking people who they voted for. She's the person who definitively has all of the information. So she's also kind of making more confusion by acting confused about it. I don't maybe people are operating under the assumption that John Bennett and Lindsay Lohan, maybe aren't actually friends which I think I came into the season thanking I've honestly, Melissa I thought it was so funny when we had I think it was low low was in the bedroom with I believe it was Natalie Marie and Ricky Williams, and they were trying to talk this through. And they said, yeah, we think the Dina voted for Jonathan the Ricky Williams was like. Yep. At that. That's a bad move. Why would she do that? Does it? Why would she of course, she she didn't vote for that would be? A bad game move. She wouldn't do that. The whole thing was just didn't make any sense. Why people were so confused about this first of all it's one vote, which really isn't that hard to figure out? And also, it also makes sense. I feel like they all knew going into it that she was going to be voting to keep Jonathan because they already sense that she had a connection with him and couple with the fact that they didn't tell Dina who they were voting for no one was being upfront and honest with her. So why would they assume that she would know which way to vote I mean, it it would seem to me that Dina made the correct assumption considering that the really the only person who was running around telling everyone their vote was tame our, and she was the one who was saying they she was gonna vote candy Al up until kind of the last minute. So I mean, if I'm Dina and I'm thinking, okay. The only thing I'm hearing is that candies getting voted out from someone show. I'm just going to go along and not out, my friend. It just honestly, it doesn't even make any sense to me why they're so concerned about this. It's not like. Deana wasn't alliance with them betrayed them or something. She just like cast a pity vote to a friend. Doesn't make sense. Sense. And see it make sense. Then there was the moment in the storage room. Also where we'll talk more about the Heisman Trophy later. But. Dina lo Han came through in like a stiff arm to Natalie Marie on her way out of the storage room. I love that Natalie's like good job. You did great which I don't know what she's talking about. Because at this point what has been done. Well, and is just like as an honest got punked by a fifty two year old woman. What could be worse. I can't imagine a worse faith giving beginning punk. Okay. So we spend a lot of time on this endurance competition. Watching this in the real time. I was not watching in real time. But then I went back and watched and you know, they spend a lot of time on these H competitions. Like, I feel like they could have told this entire story in a law shorter time period. I we didn't I don't feel like we need necessarily like every single person story as like what they were feeling what they were doing than how they ended up like jumping off it just it's it's a little much when really all we need to know is like are there any first of all who's I out? Second of all there any deals made third of all who wins. I feel like it's it doesn't really gotta we don't really know what deals were made. Right. Sort of what deals are made? You never really truly know. Who's what the deals are? And whether they're going to be held up. But I just feel like they spend way too much time on this. Like, I think they just really liked to see video clips of the. Jello getting swatted at them, whatever the cream or whatever because they kept re-showing like they showed it gets flat one. And then they showed each individual's Slatter on each person. It was like oh my God. They always flattered over once like just chill out. We donated the every single person like rewind of making a mess and Kato we know how he feels about when messes get made. But I think they love showing this on regular big brother Carson. But it wouldn't that? Now. It's like, oh, we're getting celebrities dirty. I think that they really want to get a lot of bang for their buck on this. Yeah, they need to try and embarrass as many of these celebrities as much as possible. And so they wanna really show like we are not taking it easy on them. This is like a real big brother competition, and I just can't help. But think if that was real sugar, what is the aunt situation in the backyard? We'll thank God. It's january. This is an insane amount of fish food. Kato kaylin one on one a night for Kato kaylin at they poured sugar on Kato, which she said that my lips and gets in my mouth and suddenly urged a joke. Both Rockwall just going to clean everything. What's going on? Hey that was sugar right? Obsessed with cleaning the house he wants to get hopped up on sugar, and then go around and clean everything. Like cocaine joke there at the end. Hearst in now, do you notice that also CBS licensed a poison song for this H O H competition? I mean, never in the history of big brother celebrity or regular have they licensed music to play in a competition while they made all those headlines scare Mucci. So they can afford to splurge that what they did. It's almost like that CBS had like an extra one hundred twenty million dollars lying around that. Maybe they okay. But some of this into our music budget. Yeah. That's probably where it came from actually how much it costs for that once on. I really was surprised. It was worth it, Melissa. That's why they had to meet the segment so long. Yes. So they wanted to get their money's worth. Yeah. You know, what though I do have to give it up to Kato Kaelin because he is one of the older houseguests who's ever competed on the show, and he totally outlasted. I mean, he I'll laugh. Olympia in. So I just feel like you gotta give credit where credit is due. I mean, considering I believe I read that he is actually older than Kevin for b nineteen and he eats like competing against these young athletic people on he totally pulled it out. So very impressive zoo possible that Kato just has these smallest, but it seems like that that was big disadvantage if you depending mentioned size, Brian. Yes. But were mentioned a lot in this episode. And I don't know if it's like hinting at something or what? But. On the next twist. But. I felt myself cursing. I'm really enjoying my Ryan lock the experience it might end Morrow. But I am really enjoying it. So far to this point. Yeah, I came in really really down on locked, and I have come around on the entertainment value, and I can just picture like the production assistant saying okay, now say I'm going from ready to rock to on the blog, and I'm just like picturing, how many takes took it brings me joy not much about him outside of the game, Melissa, but he seems like a nice enough guy. He hasn't said a mean thing about anybody there. He is now like in our favorite spot of the underdog who is now almost all these people are working against him to potentially get him up on the block. So he's really I think firing on all cylinders Laki. I think he's doing a great job for his imagery habilitated. For sure because I feel like he went into this with everybody thinking like, oh, he's the bad. Boy, he lies to, you know, get out of trouble on the does all this X Y Z. And now, it's like, oh, you know. I don't think there was anything malicious anything he's like ever done in his life at this point. Like he just have an enemy. Misunderstanding that whole, thanks. Feels like Melissa. They have not played the veto today. Correct. No. They haven't paid. Oh, we have these the veto will be played live on the night. I don't know that's gonna be paid played live. But it's possible that it could happen. Monday morning. Could even happen nights nine. I have no idea get it in the show. I kind of feel like it would be harder to film it Monday morning, and then get edited down as opposed to just do it in the show on Monday night. Yeah. Totally. I mean, honestly, this brother celebrity schedule is like messing with everything I thought that the veto is being played today. And it wasn't and I'm very abused. And so we're just gonna have to experience it with everyone else. And of course, we will be live again Monday night at this same time for so two big show tomorrow night Caitlin Herman will be here in the studio to talk about the live Vic Shen and potentially live veto very excited to have Caitlyn back here in the studio to talk some big, brother. On Monday night. Okay. So we had some other things that happen in this competition Kirsten wear of Kato kaylin was viciously attacked by Dina low hand during this during this competition. Yeah. Honestly, I cannot believe the identity of Dino. In. But no, actually it was like a much more mild version of like Rozina cheering for Paris in the first Joe h of began six much more mild version of. What did she say, Melissa? It was like, hey, hold on Joey it literally. I don't even think it was. It was just like don't give up everyone. Stay holding on like literally was the most on offensive on assuming thing that anyone could say and then Kato's like out Joe my God. I can't believe you're coming at me, so hard. It's like, I was a tact my life. Have I seen or heard about something so violent? So as such something so terrible as liar people so afraid of DNA, I don't understand it. She deemed I mean, she's basically like a lone wolf she has no alliance. She doesn't seem like shoop wrath let although she did have a good showing in this endurance competition. But she's really just on her own by yourself. Not partnered up with anyone she I just I don't get why. I mean, her strategy is like, oh like, I just don't want people to lie. I don't like this line thing. It's like that should not scare you. That you should want to keep that person around for while because they're not at threat to you. And if anything you can fold them in on your side. So I have no clue what they're saying. Right now. Are you enjoying this story being told in the house about mislocate hand and her battle against the other popular girls? Click that won't let her be a part of their group. I'm just waiting to see you gets hit by a bus to be honest riveted. Thrown under a bus. For too much longer. We saw Joey Lawrence. Also was having a rough time out there Kirsten that. He just he just wanted that competition to end, and they show Joey much less of that than when they could've. They could have really made him seem like such a Wigner because that's what he is. Like, can we get this going like can we get this over with? It's so cold, this is unsafe. Like this is dangerous wrestling it did not stop at a point. And they were very charitable to him. Not all. Pretty funny during the competition because he's like, okay. This is taking too long. When's it going to get started? They need to get it started. And eventually Natalie was like this is a competition. Joey like, we just have to stay on here as long as possible. I this is it we're not doing anything further. What is this costume that? Joey Lawrence is wearing around the house with the big black frames theory weird. It's almost like he's gone into like some sorta like witness protection program. Like what what is this thick grow nineties early thousands? And I don't think that's his best luck that urge in my range those Bs. Man Fatman references audition everyone. So could you explain this bliss Joey Lawrence wants to be cast as as Batman? Yes. Is his next career goal is to be the next Batman. And so that was his addition. So you know, casting directors out there check it out. The other thing that is someone went and looked up like at Joey Lawrence and Batman and found like dozens and dozens and dozens of tweets from Joey Lawrence from like twenty fifteen or he's like, I will be Batman one day. No that like I will ever like this is literally his life goal. And that's probably as close as you'll ever get Joey get it. I don't feel bad for him. Understand. I know maybe there's like some maybe some off Broadway Batman musical that. He could be in. I'm pretty sure at superhero musicals are end up being way too expensive and dangerous. So probably not probably not a good idea for Joey. Okay. So ultimately, we end up with once Joey ends up falling out of the competition. We're gonna see Kato and Natalie end up with the deal in terms of Kato will keep Natalie Marie safe. And that Kato is feeling like that lock. The is the best target for him. We see conversation with Kato and locked Melissa where locked the good pitch. He's like, hey, I'm gonna win everything. So you keep me we'll work together. I was very impressed with Brian lock dis pitch 'cause he could've just easily not said anything. And instead he went in there and gave good solid reasons. Why he kept around? And I'm not I'm shocked that Kato isn't listening to him. I mean, these he should keep Ryan. Lac de around if especially if he can pull him in on their side and say, look, we did try and convince the girl to keep Jonathan it didn't work out. But like I wanna work with you. I just feel like Kato and Tom little bit. But Tom less so are blinded by Lolo Natalie, and they really shouldn't trust them. I mean, clearly Natalie in Lolo are working mostly with Ricky, I need using Kato. And Tom the second Kato in tomor out of power, you'd think they're gonna stick around with them. I don't think so. So I just wish Kato it's made very clear that Tom is the brains of the of the tomato alliance and and Kato just not listening to him. So Thomas to go along with Kato says and Kato just clearly is not the brains of the operation. So it's unfortunate because I think they could have really done some damage bickers. Feels like he's got it all figured out of lock the is the biggest threat in the house take him out, and that'll be good for Cato. Yeah. Definitely take the biggest or out in the second spot because who'll be the next biggest threat. It's a mystery. No way to know. And I mean Ryan came in with a full proof plan. He's just going to win every competition. He hasn't won any of the other two vetoes. But I'm sure none of the other ones will be a problem at my crazy. I know Ryan is a threat to win challenges, and this is celebrity big brother different game. But does that and but by proxy make him the biggest threat? I don't think it makes up the biggest threat. But I think that he could be a big threat. Just because he hasn't really said anything me. And so people are on wells later like I think he's accidentally a threat to win accidentally if he can get there which doesn't seem like he can. Yeah. But accidentally threat to win is probably not bad. I mean mostly we did the draft a couple of weeks ago of going into the season. And honestly, if if you had the number one pick right now, I think it would be like. There one person that you feel like is really the front runner like more. So than any other person. Not really real. It's pretty even I feel like everyone goods and bads. I guess I guess I would I still like Natalie even raise chances just because I feel like she's she's in with a lot of people, and she's less drama than some of the. So I would agree. I think that she would probably be the the number one pick. But you wouldn't like pick her now and say, okay, this is a lock. Fifty two year old woman win. Okay. So there is a lot of turmoil in the house and a lot of it is going to come out of where there was this four AM conversation of what were low low and Natalie even redoing four o'clock in in the morning with Dina Lohan. A lot of the conversation that they were having was about Tae, mar and keeping tame mar under control. I know that you know, the chamber is a an interesting person in that she she's very personable when she wants to be, but she tends to fly off the handle over a lot of things that maybe she might not need my handle about. And so they were really talking about her and how to control her in how to like figure out a way to work with her, and it was mainly conversation with Natalie Lolo and Ricky and that kind of set taymor off because she was like, these guys are my friends. These guys are supposedly I'm working with them. And if they feel like they can't even trust me than they have to talk with me all night, then I'd are about the all night than I don't understand what what's going on here. And that is kind of how. Things got set into motion. But so it's like I mean, I understand their need to talk about her like how to calmer down and how to keep your tame in quiet because she is she is very volatile. Like, you don't know what you're gonna get from her. Okay. So I thought that's a little different than how the presented this where I felt like the episode Curson presented it as Ono taymor is just being paranoid. Crazy, and they weren't even talking about Samar. Yeah. They they're really pushing for this narrative of taymor is just like an angry paranoid person, which I don't particularly care for. But she also leans into that with how reactive she is. So I can understand why they would edit her that way. But I don't think it's a great luck to choose that as how they show her. I also feel like like the fear of marshy totally neutered by how terrified she was not H O H like that's creaming and that just pure horror. I'd be like I'm not afraid of this woman anymore and like. Like, maybe that's what happened in drama. They're like your three feet off the ground. Good stays touch the ground with your toes when she's hanging, and you could see it's like maybe a foot in the hat between the creditor feet. And she's losing it like, I just feel like I would no longer be afraid of someone who is so terrified in that situation. Like, maybe that's why Lolo felt so comfortable going off on her the next morning, but like just screaming. So we got more taymor screaming with low where they almost came to blows again where we saw the neck punch conversation from last week Melissa with this all yesterday in terms of this argument between low low and Tamar the flashback staff was not from yesterday. No, not the flash mix. But but the stuff from that we said. Said was from yesterday calls too big brother for turning this all around in like in a very quick amount of time, especially the you know, having people in there to work over the weekend. Very impressive. Yeah. Basically, it was that was in the morning, I believe and then after that fight feeds cut for like, seven hours or something. So it was a long time for people to be documenting. Why are the fields down with one on Lola get kicked out in the rumors flying around? And I mean, luckily, none of the rumors were true right side per usual, has her usual with big brother. The rumors were not true. But it was it was a little desire that fight because it seemed to me at least watching it that it came out of nowhere all of a sudden Lolo was like yelling really aggressively raising her. I was just like, whoa. Where did this come from previously? Lows been pretty good about. Heaping relatively calm when tame are kind of like a gets into it with her. But this one was a little much in terms of feeds being done is it possible that in terms of turning the episode around so quickly that they needed all hands on deck in order to get this episode from what was happening in the house on Saturday to ultimately get on the air. Is it possible that there's some sort of overlap, and those resources, I I'm not gonna say it's impossible because I don't really know how everything works behind the scenes, but I do know it came up that I think Lolo had spent a lot of the day in the diary room being talked down after that. So I don't really know what was happening in the house the time. Okay. Maybe one day. We'll find some of that stuff. This secret tapes. Yes. Okay. So Lolo after taymor after the confrontation with Lolo she's upset and we see her. She's a she's getting she's packing. All her stuff. We see her talk to Tom green. I love this moment when she's gonna she tells Tom green that she is not moving bedrooms. She's gonna leave the house. People. Witting quick. Do. Talking about. Going home. Okay. All right. And then she's like it was nice meeting. You. This is this all big show or. She says she was quitting. And then when Tom said, the word quit. She was like, wait a second. I don't do. I don't know. No. We know we will know that taymor is not quitting the game. Until we get. Everybody. Quitting the podcast update. We have an update on taymor. Okay. All right. Ultimately, we get to our nominations, and we're gonna see that it's going to be taymor and Dina low hand on the block of this week and Kato kaylin we found out had some specific reasons why he wanted taymor to go up on the block. We we saw a quick scene early on in the episode about how Kato felt about something that was going on in the house. So that taymor was not cleaning up in the kitchen had roommates mine tire life, and I ate it when they make. A message drives me muggy. Kato hates roommates that make a big mess everywhere. Yeah. Other stuff that remains stews? That's totally cool and fine like not even with a messy roommate else's fine. Anything else is fair game. But mountain no way messy, personally, fine messy, things not fine. Okay. All right. He's never had a roommate that's made a mess Kato kaylin before. And then also we heard Kato's nominations there was there was something that taymor. Did that really upset Kato that it was almost a terrible incident in the house? We're kind of a team here. I slipped on I slipped on some shrimp today. Never thought that would be part of a nomination speech. I. Frim? Curson taymor. I guess was cooking shrimp and Kato kaylin almost slipped on a shrimp. Keep leak how much shrimp do you have to drop or it can be a safety hazard. And how do you not notice that happen and deal with immediately? Like, there's a difference between being like a little bit messy. And like, oh, yeah. I dropped a whole shrimping on the floor. But you know, what someone else will get it? I'm cooking. Shrimp, everywhere guys. This is a big deal. Okay. I understand where he's coming from like shrimp all over the place shrimp. Got a how did that come up in the nomination ceremony? I have no idea like I was listening to k mar and Dina talking about the nominations, and they were saying like, oh, well, I whenever I cook. Then someone else needs to clean whenever someone else. Cooks, and I would clean, and that's a standard thing that you do at home is like when you cook. You don't have to clean it as well. When you. You know, it was like holding. And I was like what are they talking about? What does this have to do with anything? And now it all comes together that this was the main reason for nomination. So there you go. Very slippery shrimp in the big brother house. Also, then Kato's sense. Like these nominations aren't going over great. But hey, just remember one thing everybody. I always think of six of the seven dwarfs aren't happy. Hey, you know, what? What he's got a point. He's not wrong. Most Brent is yelling in the chat wants you to comment on the Kato mentioned that taymor should go home and be with her son. Yeah, I hate that sort of logic. Where it's like, I mean same those for picking a winner. Like, oh, well, he has kids or she has kids like they need to me. She's a mother may. Celebrity? I hate the whole like, well, she should go home to be with her son today, they say that said to Dodds. No. And so I really hate that sort of logic. So I did like tame are stood up to him about that. And said like, no, I never said I wanted to go home to my sound. Like, I never said that so yeah, I just feel like that at least met piece quit to go home and be with his wife. Yeah. Well, that's a little different. I guess, but for real I hate Jay. Logic. Like, Ricky Williams father. So should he be up on the block to to go back to his kids? Like, it's just so infuriating that it's somehow a reason to put a woman on the block. I don't have it with a man. Yeah. I think it was a list of re I think that you know, in terms of his rationale that shrimp on the floor was clearly one. And then goes goes see your kids is lower on the list. Why also felt like his speech just wasn't going. Well, and so he just kept talking to try and fix it. And it was just getting worse and worse, and he was just clearly uncomfortable. So not as it wasn't as bad as what I thought it would be based on how team was talking about it. But what a crazy night for Kato kaylin where this will. He did win the H O H this night. I mean, he's so odd he's such a weirdo. This was I played the clip of him with the sugar where he was talking like he was on cocaine that they poured those sugar on him. This was Kato kaylin celebrating his win in the HOA ch. Twitter at stole broke school. Go. That's and then chanting his own name, right? Tom grieve is also chanting leg. Let's have fun. Let's have fun. Let's have fun at the same time. Tom. What are you doing? Also what what did what Kato win? The h h h h winter. Okay. I really this whole time. But he was I'm the Joe Twitter who chose Ritter. Letters. I don't get it. But okay, why couldn't he just say I'm the h h h Clinton winner. But then, you know, we've talked about Kato and his speeches and everything, but we have to talk about a TV moment that I will never forget my entire life. No matter what else happens in celebrity big, brother. I think anytime I hear about Kato kaylin or Ricky Williams the rest of my life. I think I will think back to this this clip, and I didn't know where this was going tonight. When we first heard Kato say this new sheriff in town. In town is. Why now Melissa that people who follow the life feeds regularly are no stranger to the house guests talking about constipation? In fact, it's probably the number three thing that they one hundred has surveyed top eight on the board named something. People talk about on the live feeds constipation very high up on the list. Yes. And taking accident thinking laxatives if. But I was under the impression that this is always in regards to slop in the big brother house is the big brother house built on some some some sort of ancient graveyard. Is it cursed the big brother house? It must be. Because honestly, I think the slop thing was always an excuse not now that we know it happens without with or without Klopp. Don't even need to put off in the mix. And then you've got this issue. So it wasn't shrimp on. Shrimp. Rob. It was only grounds. But I think it might be the thing where like people don't like to poop not in their own home. The house doesn't feel like home yet. So they just aren't able to to let it go. Yeah. All right. So Kato has a problem. But luckily, there is somebody there to save the day Ricky willing every open to it. I know I know how to the organ south. Okay. I didn't even know. This was a thing. I didn't know that you that you could get a stomach massage. And that was the thing. I did not know that either. But you know, what rig is teaching human body. We learn new things about it every day. It makes sense. There's like yoga poses that are called like window limping policies. And so I feel like he was touching that part of the body. So. You've got to give it to the the editors here. I feel like the cinematography was just pure goal security Kate or catos gonna lay on his back and Ricky Williams is going to get in there. Kato said this which I was little confused by oil here. I'm sure it would have brought here he's got oil. So I I wasn't sure where we were all going with this. But here's Kato kaylin during the procedure from Ricky Williams. Hertie Hertie colon forty need help be medically speaking, of course. News and everything it's just so much medically speaking, of course, medically speaking of. Hertie Hertie colon forty need help. Medicare speaking, Ricky Williams, just walk away at that point. No help you stop stop. Hertie colon. Just throw a quick little punch. Like just punch the colon. Maybe that'll fix it. And then. Stop talking. Pay. Mar if you wanna coal in punch, I thought no that's only throat punching punch. Don't tell Lolo about Colin punch. So. But the Kato's going to keep talking that you think the Ricky Williams would need complete silence to operate Kato kaylin, then says this. Feels like I actually sold the Heisman Trophy, really really Kano Brealey. We're going to talk about the the Heisman the Heisman Trophy right now. Why did they give him the symbol found? That was not a good joke. I don't know. Are we talking about Ricky Williams or OJ's Heisman Trophy? Maybe both. He was pretty backed up. Oh, oh my. Much much. And then why was Ricky Williams? So sweaty, Melissa. What was? That's the cinematography. I'm looking for in big brother that that image of the sweat dripping off his nose as he's fully focused on this massage. That was just gorgeous. I was ousting accord, you only ever hear big brother houses freezing big the houses, so cold. It's always it's so called. I've never seen another person in the history of big brother with sweat dripping off of them fry inside the house. He's focused focus said himself coming off the colon. He's getting the heat from the cold Kato colon work, so disgusting. Yes. And. Kato kaylin. Then he he wasn't sure he was a skeptic the skeptic. He's doing his Colin massage. And you know, I thought it was gonna work in could feel a little something. And I. Wait. Wait, wait. Okay. And then we heard yelling in the bathroom. Yeah. I was telling Melissa before the podcast started that it would've been better. If he had just pooped his pants on the DR. Why? Because you know what? At least I need sees fully embarrassed as he should be by the segment. Oh, the chef like, this is why I never tell my friends to watch big brother. They're like they're like why do you wash? I watch it for the strategy. I really love it. And it's like if I tell them to watch it, and they come on in this episode, and they're looking at poop jokes strange, massages bodily functions like sweat dripping down your face like there. There's no way I'm getting my credibility back. So I keep them away. Look celebrities left and tick brother, boy, it was horrible. That was one of the worst segments of TV. I've ever watched my entire life. And I wish I could have those like four minutes back. Do you feel you have a pain in the pit of your stomach watching it? Yeah. I'm gonna need a massage. Murky bad. Do you? Hertie Hertie corden. Kerr D fallen. Oh my God. It's too much. It's just too much like four more minutes of tame are doing literally anything there's also so much more to cover like they could have there's so many days and hours and minutes worth of footage that they could have used that were important or you know, they'll drama or would understand you understand more like the inner workings of the house like who's working with who. And who's actually working? I mean, I wanna hear a DR from willow and not leave Marie telling me who they're actually going to be loyal ju-. If anyone else like who they're going to work with do. They actually trust Ricky or are they just using him? I wanna hear I just wanna hear all of it. And I feel like I'm not getting enough of because that's what the best part of the episodes. Is you get to hear their DR sessions when they're gunmen did not just giving, you know jokes. The it really important for me to hear what they're actually thinking. In regards to who they're working with what their strategy is. And instead, we get this. We get this garbage. So what what do you want to know that you don't that? We don't know. I wanna know who Natalie Marie and Lolo are loyal to. I wanna know if they wanna keep Tamar round. I wanna know if they actually wanna work with Ricky, or if they're trying to actually work with Cato in Tom because it seems to me that they are loyal to Ricky. It's the two of them in Ricky is what I'm getting out of this. But then I also wanna know what who Ricky's loyal to. Still plans or that detailed. I yes, I really do think. So I really do think especially low in that Li I think they're really they're really good. And they're really in it to win it. And I think that they've got the strategic thinking I mean, we can get into it later when we talk about life feed stuff, but low is able to successfully do a lot of stuff that you'd think wouldn't work that would that ended up working so mention anything further, but you know, I just wanna know what they're really thinking in how things are going in their mind. So that there's so much more that we could cover that isn't being covered in. I wish they would. Okay. Alright. Let's take some questions. I think they're doing a great job. So far, Phil, I'm celebrity big, brother. Okay. All right. Let's take some questions. Mindy says is blow drying your feet before? Putting on your shoes? The thing Joey teaching me all sorts of new bathrooms stuff need, Don show. Yeah. So this was a question. I think that the tabulated brought this up on Twitter Kirsten yet. Why did Joey Lawrence bring the hairdryer into the house? Well, it certainly was not for his hair. But we what we do. Now is Joey Lawrence gets very cold. And as I Canadian I can relate to that. And I know there have many times in my childhood where we would like us a blow dart like heat up our pajamas before we put them on. And I assume that that's what this situations all about he just wants a warm dry feet when so that's why he brought a hairdryer to the house. Is it his blowed are though? Or is it someone else's wasn't didn't ask if they could borrow his hairdryer during the challenge. He is a special body part dryer, it's not actually a hairdryer at all. Whoa. Was we are learning too much about Joey Lawrence. I think. Ian has a question. Please discuss the intestinal fortitude, Cato showed by winning that endurance competition. How do you think him being empower has impacted his game? Many hardy. Foreign? Hate it. Yeah. I'm a little nervous for him actually because I feel like especially if they end up getting Ryan locked e out that he's going to be the biggest physical threat. They're I mean, obviously got some actual athletes there, but in terms of winning these particular types of competitions. He's already showing that he's a big threat. So I think that him winning this. I think him winning. This was important for him in Tom to get through this week because I felt like they were on the outs. But I think that moving forward it's might not be great for Kato because now will really be able to point to two separate competition. Winds as demonstrating that he is a threat. This question is from John barber. Why was the light still on at four? Am is it the light in the room. They never turn the lights off. Why feeling only? Yeah. When everyone is asleep the lights go off. And why would they turn the lights off on to Mars, the only one sleeping in the room? This is a question from Dalton if Kato feels threatened by Lottie and lock the isn't with the girls who does he have in this game. Well, don't expect logic from Kato kaylin. He's got too many crazy things on his mind. Yeah. I I don't understand why they feel so threatened by Brian locked -i considering that he got his biggest ally removed. His biggest ally was Jonathan Jonathan out of the game. Ryan is someone you could absolutely scoop up and use your advantage because he's a perfect meat shield. And they're not doing that. And it's really disappointing. I felt like I felt like Tom had the had the right idea moving into this week. And then Kato kinda just like TOMS ideas, just stopped on that. In the end said like, no, we're not doing that. And it's a little disappointing because I was really excited about the tomato alliance. And now, I'm kind of I just feel like Tom needed to stepped up and put his foot down and said, no, this is important. This is what we're doing. And instead Kato did that. And that's the wrong person. You want controlling your alliance. Yeah, he should control nothing. But he's completely intractable. He doesn't really listen to other people's if you want to work with him, you kind of have to go along with what he's thinking and nobody like people should be dragging laundry along for at least a little while longer. But also every single person person should be trying to drag kmarts end with that. Right. But that's also not happening. So it's really frustrating watch. Okay. From Jess will stepping on shrimp. Go down in history. As one of the greatest reasons for nomination Lissa. Where's that rank for you? I think it's a pretty good one. I if I'm being honest, I think that's one of the funnier ones. We've heard the stepping on a shrimp part. I did not expect that to ever be something. Anyone would say let alone what I would say. So you know, stepping on shrimp. Can't can't step on trend. Slippery slippers, like a banana peel, John Barbour's has taymor become borderline unbearable. It's hard for us to save from. What we saw tonight. But most how real is that we know low low entame are have friction between candy and taymor have friction. But is the overall is the rest of the house have issue or they don't like the drama. Came is a little much. It's can be very fun to watch. But I can imagine that if you're living in the same places or you would feel the need to walk shells around her or so shows. On shrimp shells. But, but you know, it's great to watch. Creeds great drama, but at the same time, it's. I don't I can't really recall a time watching tamer on the feeds where she wasn't getting into it with someone even if it was kind of a playful fight. She still kind of turns it a little serious sometimes. So it's a it's a little much. But so I could see why people now's would be kinda over her. But as a feed watcher, she does bring it in any scene. She said so kmarts everything and anyone who's talking about her being on bearable is dead to me as viewers that she's also been incredible to us. Exactly. That's right. That's right. We love it. Here's one from Scott head. They always had a fire escape plan on the door. I noticed with all the people going in and out of the women in Ricky's. Scott. What are we have like the blueprints for the house? We don't know. To know how to leave them read. It is smart Davut. They should have it. I think also because it's a not a thought somebody's actual like a commercial building. But. Tara wants to know, I love seeing Kato's nomination speech. Get repeatedly interrupted was at the worst nomination speech since Sam 's BB twenty the opposite of female empowerment lecture, Melissa, it was a pretty bad speech. I can't I'm totally on offense though, about whether I like people, interrupting these speeches or not I feel like I I don't like it because it ruins the decorum of the nominations. And you know, it like, it's it's you're supposed to be respectful of the show wage, that's kind of thing. And then win the nominations happen. You're supposed to just like, you know, suck it up and take it. But at the same time, it creates an very interesting episode, and it creates fun moments to watch and talk about, but I just I don't like I wouldn't like this to be a pattern that happens every single time because then it just devolves into nobody can get like people plan these speeches out, maybe Cato, didn't really. Plan is really plan. These six of the seven dwarves weren't happy was planned. His family. Probably really he says he has a lot of canned phrases. I think and can jokes. And he just like throws them out wherever the moment might right? I feel like counterpoint Melissa there though is can anyone respect Kato kaylin? It'd be after tonight. Yes. I certainly can't again. Meli hertie. Okay. Tend to Taryn want those who does Melissa casual mom like on this season. Have you checked in with your mom about celebrity big, brother? I need to check in with her again, but she was disappointed that Jonathan left. She was not happy that that was something. I think she wanted him to stick around. She likes the players who were there to like in it to win it and deploy. And I don't think that she she didn't follow him from his movie career that she just like them on the show. Yes, he she doesn't really know. A lot of the people that are currently on the show. She knows you know, real housewives and stuff like that. So she's not really following these people or join these people because of their previous careers, it's based on who's playing the game and who's really trying and you know, that's what she maybe much of a casual and maybe not, you know, she she may be I think I think she's a little tainted because I give her too much information. L didn't fall far from the tree so trail tree of temptation. All right. So let's talk about the weekend on the live feeds as we start to get ready for tomorrow night's Vic Shen episode if you are going to be bouncing out here. We got a great show on Monday night Caitlin Herman scheduled to be here with us in the studio very excited about that coming up on Monday nights. So be on the lookout for that. And everybody else. Let's talk about what's going on with the spoilers. The office of civil defense issue with the following message. This is. Spoiler. Spoiler than actual player goes to this country has and protective action shooting take. All right spoilers are here. Okay. All right. So melissa. We got a vote coming up tomorrow. Get a veto coming up tomorrow. What is the most likely scenario for Monday night at this hour? It's kind of hard to say because we haven't had the veto yet. So it really depends on the outcome who wins it what what they decide to do excetera. But at this point in looks like the plan is to back door Ryan Lachie. Which is not quite what I think they should be doing. I think that that could be good for Lolo in Natalie Ricky, but I don't necessarily think that's a smart move for Kato, John. And so it's a little disappointing that that's where it seems to be ending up. It appears to me that if they can't get Brian on the block Ryan Joey of actually figured out that if they don't if they win the Joe they should not use it because then they will not be put on the block. They were talking about. Oh, maybe we should use it. But if Ryan wins a veto in uses of Joey goes on the block and goes home. So they in order to save them both. They have to win the Joe and keep the nominations the same be in the view rate. They might not be in the veto. So that's kind of the that's kind of where we're at now. But it's it's a little it's going to be interesting to see what happens with veto. Okay. Or a who? Should they be targeting the tomato? I think they should be targeting Ricky tithing, he really dangerous, and I think that I think that Lolo and naughtily are more loyal to Ricky than they are to Tom in Kato, and that's very bad for Tom Cato because Tom Ricky don't get along very well, low low berries, smartly today got Ricky to talk to Tom and try and smooth out their issues, but not by saying, oh, let's move out our issues, she told Ricky to tell to ask Tom to name the alliance and say, you know, you're the creative one I would love for you to come up with the name your good at this stuff because Lola's logic was that Tom doesn't feel like he's in control after Ricky basically said to Tom he doesn't want to be part of their alliance. Tom fell totally out of place than he didn't feel like he had any control in the alliance anymore because Lolo Natalie Marie so wanted to work with Ricky after Ricky sipping. Didn't want are the alliance. And so she wanted Ricky to give Tom back that feeling of being empowered. So when Tom gets the opportunity to name the alliance that gives him that feeling that he's in control, and everyone sitting there saying that's not gonna work that there's no way thomps falling for this. Of course, Ricky goes in does it in right afterwards. Tom is like, you know, what I feel a lot more comfortable with Ricky. Now, I feel really good about where we are. So Lolo really killed it with that strategy. It was great. I think the other thing too, though, is that John has said a lot about not trusting rookie over the last few days, and it's not working and Cato is not having it and Natalie and lower also not having it. So out of certain point, even if he doesn't fully by what Ricky's doing he probably has to actually he does. Anyways. I I'm not saying that that's the case. But it's not impossible. This is like on survivor when you get the chickens and donate them. Don't name the chickens because if we name them, then we'll have a tach -ment to them. And then we will want to eat them. So we give it a it can't be food. And that's that's the same idea. If you name it, then you'll fall in love with it. If you name it as real. Okay. So interesting if the nomination stay the same if taymor in Dina remain on the block here, and it's interesting that we have three nominees last week had to be three nominees, and then we're just like unceremoniously to nominees now. So with two nominees on the block moso who would go home if it's taymor versus Tina. I do believe that it could go either way. But I think that DNA will be more likely voted out unless they can. Unless they can figure out some way to get someone else on their side. But at this point there, I believe that Natalie Marie and Lolo. And and I believe that Ricky and Tom law do the same thing. So that's already a big voting bloc. So I believe that DNA will be the one to go. I would see Dina's of threat here. I don't even think that they're seeing her as a threat. I just think it's so easy to vote. The person doesn't really have any connections in the house, and they're not being forward thinking rather than trying to scoop her up there. Just like, you know, we'll just get rid of it, and that makes everything more complicated moving forward. But I guess it's more fun data's been a lot of unfulfilled potential for me anyways. So she can go puzzle. We have Lindsay Lohan in the live audience on Monday. Possible. No, she would as we get a tweet from Lindsey Lohan on the show. I feel like it's more likely that Lindsay Lohan will say something incomprehensible on Instagram. That's preferred the. That's where she goes. That's where she is totally messy. And I think that that's what we could expect from her. Okay. What nice little video, maybe Instagram live. Now, I know that the CBS website was down. And I saw a lot of people on Twitter very upset about that that hey, I pay good money for these feeds what's going on. Why is my app not working? What was the overall status with the feeds this afternoon? And they seem to be working fine for me. So I don't know. I don't know what everyone's having problems with. So it was. Issue with the app than an issue with the feeds, I believe. So I wasn't using that. And I I didn't have any issues today. Yeah. I think lots of people had to restart their computer. And then it was fine. Okay. Off again. I actually know what I read was that. There was an issue with the traffic. Ricky Williams had to come in. Already Hertie this clip so much rob any. I I wanna apologize spoke to you. Because that this was that I'm on the right side of history. But I'm by apologize that you guys had to be here for this. Because that this was a this was a night that we will never forget, it's not one on out of. But I never felt to attacked whenever you played that clip. Yeah. Than Kato kaylin win Dina was cheering for people thousands of times worse. I know it's hard to imagine anything worse than that. But it's word. Most anything else notable from the feed. So that we should know about. Not particularly I feel like the big thing for me was watching Lolo tell Ricki that plan. And then have Ricky carried out and have it seemingly worked hopefully vine. So I, you know. I was I was excited about it. But I felt like also sad because I was like, Tom. Why are you just believing everything that there there's pulling over on him? But you know, what I'm very impressed with some of the game play in some of the strategizing that's been going on this season. So I gotta be here for it a curse to people. See another h tomorrow night. I mean, they I don't think the next one will be an endurance one. So I don't think we'll see it on the feats. I would assume feel will go down at some point after the episode tomorrow night. Yes. So just to talk through the schedule for this week from I believe that the schedule for this upcoming week, and it's not going to be consistent all the way through for all of you celebrity big brother viewers. So we'll be back on Monday night. And then we'll have another episode on Wednesday night. And then we're off for two nights in a row for the first time in celebrity big brother and believe we are back on Saturday night. And I believe that the Saturday night will be the next Vic shin. So we'll have an vixen on Monday night. And then I from what I believe then we will have an episode on Wednesday where I guess we'll get nominations and then Saturday will have presumably the veto. And then the next nomination coming up so Monday that after title be Monday Wednesday Saturday for sloppy big brother. Some two hour episodes along the way, we've got some nine PM Star Times on the east coast. So hang on. It's going to be a wild ride. He's like it's like we're all on the wall having slime in sugar thrown at us left left. And right couple of quick questions. Jessica wants to know is it better for Kato and Tom to align with low Natalie or pick up Ryan, Joey I think we're all on the same page better to go with Ryan in Joey correct, e added for them more tractable. Okay. All right mister robot Terence's Kirsten, which celebrity house guests are the angels. And who are the devils drama Taryn come on? I'm trying to. I haven't seen anybody wearing red. I don't know. I guess I'm going to claim Mars double because I love her Nedal. Even Marie used to have all red hair in her WWE heyday. So, you know, maybe she is a reformed double is possible. I don't know I guess candy. Maybe as an angel. I've anyone who fights Tamar maybes angel. The thing that you need to know is that there's no rhyme or reason to who the names on his devil decide. Okay. Then the Melissa bought says who would Lindsay Lohan kill if Dina is a victim this week. Well, hopefully no-one. Yeah. Hopefully. I hope. Jeez. Wouldn't want Kato to be associated with something? Terrible. Like that. Caroline wants to know was Kato Dina, the shortest lived BB showman's ever where we ever considering that show Mance they were flirting a little bit. And there were people talking about them flirting, and then keta wins HOA and get the letter from his girlfriend, and they're all like what yoga girlfriend. He's like. Yup. And that was the end of that. Story not everything is man's people. Okay. Steph says so we have to watch Cato get his tummy to Sasha by Ricky, but they won't show. Tom acting like an Osprey in the middle of the night. I feel rob look just because you don't see tonight doesn't mean that that's not gonna be filler at another point during the season that can be placed anywhere. Tom with the cereal boxes is. Really it. Transcends episode. Okay. Curious if Ryan does not win the veto is he done. I think some of the scenarios if Joey wins the veto. He's not done. Right. I think there are some scenario. But it does seem like we are heading in the direction of Ryan going home this week. I'm trying to think of anybody else from that side. No, right. So it's really he's gonna win the veto. Or Joe is gonna win the vivo. Yeah. Okay. All right. Tender Taryn wants to know is Melissa officially a member of the ball smashers, Melissa. Can you can you? Tell us a little bit about your weekend. Geez. I hope member the boss measures. They're great. They're fun. I had a lot of fun. Did a lot of big brother? Shire's smashers from big brother related activities and meeting some cool people, and it was just a lot of fun. Good times. All right. Let's take another question or two Kyle. Are we gonna get a meta world peace situation with Joey Lawrence? If Ryan gets back doored. So is that a we'll Joey quit if we end up with Ryan getting back door. I I don't think. So right. I don't think he will quit. I think that I think it could be a situation where he's like I don't wanna play anymore, but I I don't see him quitting. But I could see him kind of making it easy for people to nominate have. And then kick him a quick I feel like Marcel. He'll take it super personally and try to win to like show. Everyone else go. He's going to be then one NATO age anyways. Mussa that we didn't get to hear from you regarding the mooch controversy from Friday night. Did you any thoughts on that? Yes. Thou-? I was very not happy with that. I'm fine. I mean, I'm not fine. But I'm I would feel better about the situation if it was a quit. But instead it makes CBS look bad. Because now it makes it look like they just tried to like pull one over on the fans and make us look stupid. I mean people drafted him people were rooting for. Yes, they did. And you know, I just I think that it's a really bad luck for CBS. I think that it makes it very clear that they were only interested in getting him on for publicity purposes, and getting those headlines, and you know, it just seems to me that at the last minute, they probably rely go shoot we need a another. Omarosa type we need a political figure and the mood was like, hey, I would do it. But I have to be at this conference. So I'm only available for X amount of days in there. Like, you know, what we'll take it. We don't care we want. And then, you know, it's just what the point like Yashar it got people talking. But I just obsessed the fans so I'm not a fan of it. You know, the I felt like that the maybe this was a quit. He didn't look happy. And so that on Friday night, but in the last couple of days that it seems as though that he was going to be at that. Conference that he wasn't expected to be at that conference. So what I don't understand is. I said why they didn't do anything with him where it was they had this opportunity Kirsten that they could've they could've made it into. So I don't know if it would have been something great. But they could've made it into something like on night one Julie Kells us. But there's something that the houseguests don't know. And there's sort of reveal like, though, the mooch is is I don't know. Well, he's already gone by the time he can be America's player, but there's some sort of team America, or, you know, the hidden house guest or something like that. And and we're going to see each night that the mooch is going to do something to mess with the houseguests or like they just like he was there. And then. Bazooka? He wasn't there. And there was just no rivalries into it. Yeah. I mean, I get it. If they didn't want to tell us that it was him specifically right from the get-go if they wanted to have that'd be more of a big story in a few episodes. But they could have had it like, yes. One of these house gas is not a real house guest. And there are clues in the episodes to help you figure it out on on Friday night, which houseguests is actually was actually a mole the whole time. It could have been a little mini version of wisdom. All and they didn't do it. There's there's also the possibility that maybe he said I need to be there for this conference. And they're like, okay. We'll just see how it goes. And maybe they were hoping that he would actually decide like you know, what I'm to invest in this game. I need to stay in. And then he stays, and then it all makes sense. They don't need to have all this like crazy staff tour stuff going on. And he just becomes regular house guests. But instead he was like, yeah, I'm not doing so. Well, I want to leave and go to this. Conference that I had told you guys about. L? It's possible. I also. Yeah. I do wonder if hypothetically he wasn't on the block in the first week if that could have potentially changed anything where you know, they had that draft where two people were supposed to be safe. And then Dina lo Han ends up picking him just because she couldn't remember anybody else's name. But they're definitely was was the scenario where he doesn't get picked in that I would have been immune for the first week. And who knows maybe that would have changed the plan a little bit. But I guess we'll never know. Now, we've probably will never know how big it have been in his contract. There's like the option to stay or to leave depending on back or. Yeah. Like just have that written in his contracts that way, it's like if he does chose to leave and go to Davos than that's fine. It's an his contract or he could use the stay to maybe they were banking on her hoping that maybe he would be feeling good about his place in the game. And then decide say that he's like. Yeah. Hell, no guys. Okay. All right. Anything else cursed in say tonight before we close things up? I just remembered one thing so during the competition tonight, Ricky Williams says he's talking about how Pisces are able to go into their own other worlds. And that's why he's going to be okay competition. Ricky Williams is gem. And I and I wanted to say about Roger. Thank god. Can I saw someone talk about him being a Gemini? So I googled it. His birthday is may twenty first he just missed being Torres. He's not even close to pay. I don't know what he was talking about. I don't know maybe opens are descendant or something. But I I don't know. That's really funny could be his ascendant or his own by even think to question it. I just know I literally saw tweet league two days ago that said, oh, it makes so much sense that Ricky Gemini because he totally flipped it when you got into that fight of you days ago. So that's the only reason why up, and I think everybody needs to know that so. 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On Twitter and Instagram on Instagram anything else that you have going on. Yeah. I do a weekly Riverdale recap podcast with a great Mary quick hausky. You might recognize from some morning updates. It's on cow ski cast. That's Calif occa-. And it is I'm almost as much of a hot mess as the colon massage. So you should definitely check. Oh boy. They do some wacky stuff on Riverdale. They never had that. Right. Thankfully. No. But honestly, it could happen at anytime sip. Okay. All right. So be on the lookout for that. And then of course, it's Melissa. She's on Twitter three as for Instagram to it is for Instagram to okay. Not very good at using Instagram. But you know, what? I'll try. Okay. All right Taryn is upping the pressure on everybody to get on them. Instagram, nearly yes. Pictures on their bus. Well, he did not join for so long that all of his posts were building up, and there was a blockage. And now that he is been able to now release the pressure is this another kiddo. 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But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only valid on certain thirty year fixed rate loans. Call for cost information and conditions. Equal housing lender. Licensed in all fifty states and MLS number thirty thirty additional conditions or exclusions may apply the feeds, but I am still here. Am going to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother celebrity to live feeds, I promise you there just wasn't a whole lot that actually happened. So just be prepared for that. But I am here by myself something else that I want to do for you today is to to go over a little bit of Ricky's game this season that Ricky is somebody is the is the only person that we know for sure is going to be in the final four because the veto has not been played yet. So I'm gonna go over Ricky game over the course of the season. It's only three weeks long should be a quick little retrospective of Ricky's game thought that would be interesting also thought that I wouldn't want to subject anyone else to have to do this kind of research because. Game in quotation marks. Let me update you on what happened yesterday. Got messages from home until it happened and of story, basically. Got the videos from home deana did not get a video from Lindsay Lohan, she got a video from Ali, which I feel bad. Even just saying that way because I'm sure that happens a lot with Alli like, oh, not Lindsey alley o-. But I figured people would be wondering if it would if it was from Lindsey in. No it wasn't. Was basically they actually they showed it on the feeds which was nice after all of the not nice things that have been happening in regards to the feeds. So you can check it out. The clip is is out there. I don't know if maybe they are not planning on showing it in the finale or in the episode either episode, which is why they had enough beats maybe who knows. But otherwise, we're just going to see it on the episode. So you don't necessarily need to be the clip. Anyway. That happened. That was really the main event of the day. Let me tell you. There is nothing happening on these feeds Tom Green Left the house, and it's like crickets nothing is going on. I literally turned the feeds on at one point. And it was four feeds on Ricky in the gym doing some yoga pose, but his face was smashed into the floor and his impose up and he's just like just kneeling face smushed into the floor. And it was just four feeds on that. Silence. And I was like. Yeah. That that's about what's happening on the feeds. That's about it. No veto was played. I actually knew that the veto was going to be played one on Monday today. And I still got lost yesterday with my days. And I was just like it's surely is going to happen today. But no it did not happen yesterday. It's going to happen today. It's going to happen today. So we'll finally find out who won the veto at some point today. And then we'll see what what's going to happen with it after that. The only really other conversation thing that happened is that we get with more confirmation from Lolo that she is concerned about Ricky beating her in the end, I think decent odds at this point that low low does take tame are to the final two, even though she still refuses to give any kind of like, very solid promise that she will do it Lolo really really thinking that Ricky has this thing in the bag. You know? He he's so he's so well-spoken. He's though is in who how could he not win? So that's that's happening Ricky's chances of getting to the final two maybe diminishing, although Lolo may not even be there by the final four if if the veto plays out in a certain way. So that's again, really all that's going on in the house. We just have to wait until the veto plays out. If candy or Dina win, we could see Lolo leave if if Tamara wins who knows what she would do with it. I Ricky might not even try to win who knows? So some interesting stuff going on there. But other than that, it's really it. So. Unless you guys have some questions for me since it's just us. You know? No, no, no, no other parties to interfere. You can ask me some questions in the chat. Here. I've got the YouTube chat open, and I can answer any questions that you might have for me. But in the meantime, I wanna I wanna talk about Ricky because Ricky I I do think has played the best conventional game of big brother of anyone in the house. If this was regular big brother unsuccess- ter- jury were just talking about like just playing the game. I do think that Ricky has played the best. He's played the most strategically he's made some massive mistakes. I wouldn't call him a good player. But I wouldn't call anybody in the house a good player. He's probably the best of the people that we have in terms of conventional strategic positioning big brother play. And really it all starts with week one where Ricky comes into this game. He's underestimated by a lot of people in terms of how we viewed him going in a lot of people were like how's he gonna function without his? Is marijuana. He's talking about I'm watching videos of him or he's explaining that. He has like extreme social anxiety. And I'm like, well, that's not a good quality to have in a big brother house. And so he goes into the house, and he is he goes into this room this bedroom with three other women madly, low low and tame taymor, and that's gonna prove to be a good choice there for Ricky. He clearly wants to align with women. I saw somebody on Reddit talk about there was a video an interview with him where he talks about like really getting along with women a lot more than he does with guys. And I think this really really shows in his style of gameplay. He wanted to align with women, very very clearly. And so the unfortunate thing for him is that he's not included in Jonathan's big initial alliance that he creates Ricky is on the outside, and this I think. Is something that a lot of really great players have to go through in something that I usually admire player. I think to somebody like Vanessa who is on the outs of the massive alliance at the start of the game. And then weasels her way in shatters it apart and then picks up the pieces. That's basically what Ricky does this week? He certainly get some help with lo-lose volatility because there's some tension between the low low segment and the Ryan Jonathan segment of the house. And so he he capitalizes on that. He he bonds with Natalie. He makes it his goal to cause a little chaos align with the women of the house, and because of that tension he that he picks up on. He's he wins the veto. He's approached by Ryan and Jonathan who trust him enough to offer him. Proposal a proposal of hey, what if what if you use the veto? And then we back doored Lolo and Ricky says that's a that's an interesting idea. Let me think on it. And then he ran to low low, and he said, hey, Lolo, guess what? Ryan's gonna do which really just puts the nail in the coffin of this alliance and cement, Ricky as a trusted ally of these two women and really these three women with Tamar who was with them still at the time. And so this is this is Ricky's best move of the game. It's probably the best move of the game period. Maybe candy getting Natalie out is is is up there as well. But but really of the strategy. We saw this season. This was really probably the best. So I'll pause there. And and see if we have any questions here. Do you think the girls already formed the bedroom lines before? Or Ryan pitched for Ricky to win the veto. Is that why Ricky told on him? Yeah. I do I think that Ricky saw that he needed to break this this group up and that he wanted to get in with them. And that's why we saw him on the episode like I am going to stir up going to stir the pot a little bit. I'm going to. I'm really going to really gonna be throw some wrenches into the works. Like, I said it really was it the best move of the season at this point. We're all kind of thinking. Whoa. Ricky look at that best player of the game. All my. And he really was at the time, and you know, still might be, but there's some issues. So Ricky using this information. It works shockingly. Well, the women fully trust him. He gets zero blood on his hands. He has no blame for this Ricky's, really looking incredibly solid at this point, the women are starting to align with Tom and Cato. He has he is totally fine. He's protected by the by the women. He's got Jonathan on his way out the door. And everything's looking amazing. The veto is used on Tom and Ricky continues, and this is very very deliberate by Ricky after the veto is used on Tom and. Joey goes up in Tom's place. Ricky says to Lolo, hey, Ryan really wanted to put you up on the block as a replacement, but don't worry. I stopped him. I put an end to it. I told him. No, he shouldn't do that Ricky really I mean, he didn't stop him. We know this but Ricky took credit for it. This is all symptoms of a good player here. And it's right from the gate the very very early again. We were very impressed with Ricky at this point. He's also building a good relationship with candy who seems like somebody that he might be able to use in the future. Again, all things looking up for Ricky. However, things get a little shaky with Tamar because she sees or should she thinks she sees Ricky go into a room with candy that that that's that's not. Okay. It's not okay. You can't go into rooms with candy. This did not happen. We can confirm it the feeds. Did not happen. He did not go into a room with candy. He says that he did not go into room with candy. But tame mar does not believe him. She says he's lying on her. And this causes some serious damage to the relationship at least in the short term and. Taymor is really she's never going to forgive him for this imaginary slight. So that's not good for Ricky. And then then we finally see the one I think the big flaw in Ricky's game. If we're if we're saying this was the best time of his game. It was also the worst time of his game. And that is he's he's a bad day. You know, doesn't have as drugs, I guess, maybe. And it's not into not into being nice in Tom just rubs him the wrong way, for whatever reason the Thomas having a conversation with Ricky about how people change when the cameras come on. And I think Ricky was in specifically referring to tame mar when he talked about this because he kind of had a conversation with her about it. And I think that she kind of like. When the cameras went on. She kind of was like whoa, now, I'm crazy and so- Ricky's kind of having a conversation about this. And Tom is like, yeah. Of course, people change. I changed you chain tricky and Ricky I didn't chain like they get into a little bit of a disagreement here and Ricky kind of feels offended. He kind of rubbed the wrong way by Tom and in the conversation, Ricky calls, Tom appreciate. Maybe deep down here. Just a prick. He's trying to like get to the bottom of Tom's feelings. And it's just not working and this tension between the two of them is never going to dissipate rookies gonna push it even further later on where he tries to get Tom to do some standup right in front of them. And then cost Tom a coward for not being able to do it or not wanting to talk about politics, and he also refuses to name an alliance with Tom and Kato. I think at the time he didn't realize how closely he would be working with them in the future. He had a kind of alliance with the three women, and he didn't want to get caught making an alliance a separate aligns with Tom in Kato, which was what was proposed to him. So. That's that's bad too. He does some damage share with his relationship with Tom. However after he sort of realizes, oh, we're going to be working with these people Lolo tells him, you know, hey, we're, you know, we're trying to work with Lola with Tom and Cato moving forward. They're kind of mad at you. Right now, we need we need Jonathan out. Tom's kind of freaking out now that he's got a weird thing with you. And he kind of wants to save Jonathan we need to put a stop to all this. So Ricky goes oh didn't realize he goes to apologize. He tries to do some damage control. However, the damage is done, and that's really that's really the catchphrase for for Ricky's games. Like the damage has been done. Tom green is never gonna forget he might forgive. But he doesn't forget. So that's that's interesting question from Tammy catos. Biggest mistake of the game was not listening to Tom about rolling. John. And Ryan at this point. Yeah. Definitely. At least one of the big mistakes. I mean, oh boy. Kelly Taryn if you had to decide between another season of CB US or be OTT. What would you choose celebrity? I would definitely still choose celebrity. I liked I liked the the novelty of having all the feeds stuff for OT. But it wasn't a game. Even this even this is at least a game, right? So Jonathan is going to leave that week. And and I'm going to call these weeks, even though they're really evictions cycles, but vixen cycle is kind of a lame term to use them. Just gonna call them weeks week to Kato wins the wage Ricky wants to back door. Ryan Ryan, Ricky really wants to continue to get rid of these guys. He he's all about working with the women, and he has a good position there. I think he would obviously like to take some kind of shot at Tom realizing the Tom is is a danger to his game. But Kato is the wage. So Ryan is the target and they want to back door. Tom unsurprisingly is like, hey, Pat, Ricky guy, he was kind of mean to me. Hey, Kato, can we we back door him? Maybe can we target him? Kato says no the women say, no the women are all about protecting. Ricky Kato is all about protecting Ricky Kato really feels good about Ricky Ricky has done a pretty good job with Kato in terms of making him feel very comfortable with him Ricky when he's not in a bad mood is very very common presence. And he does have a level of emotional intelligence that I think gets him in trouble when he isn't a bad mood because he pushes too hard on that button. But when he is not in a bad mood. He he is able to be Kate up. We're all just one big happy family. You know, we're just we're all working toward the same goal. And I think that everything's going to be fine. And who was like, yeah. Everything's gonna be fine. And so rookie is able to keep himself safe this week despite Tom really wanting to maybe maybe make a move here on him. Ryan and Joey in the meantime, they wanna start a counter alliance. They need to they need to do something they're realizing they caught Tom and Kato and Lolo and Natalie in a meeting, and they're like, oh, those four a working together, we need to do something about this and K mart who still mad at Ricky is like, hey, Ricky's involved too. And they're like is he though because we feel like we can bring him in. He seems like a cool guy. And so they if if that contra lines ever actually amounted to anything they wanted to bring Ricky, and and so that's why mentioning Ricky has to Ricky tries to do more damage control with Tom Lolo lets him know, some of the pain points that Tom is talking about when Tom says that Ricky is a big threat, and that maybe they should target him in particular, this idea of naming the alliance so Ricky does go, and he says to Tomei your creative guy just want you to make the aligns name. And so. It's it appeared that that works. Tom afterward was like, hey, Ricky such a great guy. He said, he always creative. He wants to work with us. I'm all about Ricky. Now, however, either he was. Faking that or things reverted back to how he previously felt because Ryan will leave Tom will win H O H and Tom will now want to go back to his idea of maybe we should target Ricky, maybe we should Ricky wants Joey gone this week. But he does not know at the time that that he is the main course for Tom Cato is going to push back on the idea for a while. But but Lolo is going to be really sketchy. She's gonna talk. She's gonna long conversation with Joey it, really sketches Kato out and so- Kato. Finally goes, you know, what? All right. We can. We can get Ricky out. If that's what you want, Tom. We can do it. So so Tom decides. All right. Well, there's a there's a this weird power. That was talked about why don't we do some murder mystery? And that that can be kind of some cover for like, hey, well, I need to target Ricky what if he has the power so Tom wants to do some murder mystery this, of course, leads to the taymor blow up of your threatening. May why are you threaten me? Don't look like that on TV Tom. That's not a good look. And you know, Ricky, by the way advised him against murder mysteries. Like, I don't think. That's a good idea. Like taymor might blow up on you. And thomas. I can handle people blowing up on me. Tom how naive you're? So Tom is eventually gonna pitch this back door Ricky idea to the women and the women will not hear of it. They would rather blow up the alliance before they turn on Ricky, very very loyal to Ricky heated, a very good job of getting their loyalty and keeping it, and so they they're going to warn Ricky realizes that this point Tom needs to be gone as soon as possible he needs to get Tom out Thomas, just he's so set on him based on that prick conversation. And so Joey is going to go ahead and pitch an anti Tom position here to the women and Ricky who accept it and welcome aboard. All right. Joey, you're against Tom. We're against Tom. Let's work together. And so in the meantime, Ricky does eventually cool. Tom down the women are so against this idea of targeting Ricky that he's he's kind of already like do. I wanna piss the women off Ricky goes to Tom and Kato and has some good converse. Nations with them. And they they're like, you know, what fine. We're not going to do it. We've backed off we're not going to back door Ricky. We are. We are all good. But again, the damage is done. The alliance is dead. And so after the veto is not used with no communication between the two of them to parties. It's clear to Tom and Kate the alliance has crumbled. And so they try to flip Joey thinking that they think they have flipped Joey until there's a big blow up the next morning. And then at that point they're going to go to candy the blow up, of course, being the one where Lolo is starts calling Tom a piece of s cited not give language warning for this podcast. Everybody hates Tom here. Terrible human being your psycho, Ricky production, make Cato leave my room. That's that's what was going on with all of that fighting and blowing up it became obvious. The Joey was not on team Tom who was not exactly coming to their rescue or anything. And so. Tom decides. Hey, let's go to candy see if she's all right? So candy, of course, is on board. Hey, I'll go after the athletes I'm done with that. And so they decide that they wanna keep candy candy needs tame, our candy is able to get tame mar because of personal reasons outside the house, they have a relationship, and it doesn't feel like she can portray that relationship. So candy is going to stay here against against what no liquor wants. This is also tame taymor is going to start start calling Tom and Cato misogynist pompous. Assholes? Nuts. It's not. Okay. Things are not okay. And so she is voting for candy who's working with them? But she is definitely still anti Tom and Kato and very pro. Ricky and the women so that's that's going on that's going on. So Joey is gonna leave K marts gonna win the next h big celebration. She's so excited I'm going to get those women haters out of this house, a put them both on the block. They're going to be gone. Rickie is going to try to do a little fist bump with Tom gesture of goodwill that nearly works. But instead kind of turns into a conversation, we'd Ricky K mar and Tom where taymor is eventually going to demand an apology for Tom's threatening and bullying an inexcusable behavior, and Tom is going to be like. I feel like I didn't do that though. Like, maybe you interpreted that way. And I'm sorry if he did, but. Sorry, not gonna work not gonna work. No peace can be made. Candy is going to feel a little bit betrayed by Ricky. Because like I said they had a decent relationship forming and Ricky decided to go with Joey over candy that turns out to be a mistake because candy stayed and now she knows that Ricky was against her. Ricky does try to do some damage control here. But again, the damage is done and candy knows that Ricky turned on her. It is their prior relationship is still enough for candy to know that Natalie is her main nemesis over Ricky, which is going to be extremely important for her for Ricky in the following weeks. So that's good to hang onto. And if were if Ricky ends up winning this game, I think that we can say that Ricky one instead of Natalie because of the work he did with candy. And so that's important to note. So. Rickie is going to agree with the women that Cato is the biggest threat between him, and Tom Cato has been winning some some more conversations more conversations conversation, some more competitions. That's what happens when I start to read the chat for a second as I speak. Rick Kate has been winning more competitions than Tom. So Kato is the bigger threat tween, the two of them, and Tom and Kato are going to start wondering. Hey, one of us is probably leaving. But if we stay and we win h maybe we should make a deal with Ricky. They still feel they still respect Ricky on some level. They feel like Ricky's kind of in charge of what's going on. And so they feel like if they can make a deal with Ricky. He might be the most amenable to it. And and that might be the way forward if they win in h so KEDO is in fact, evicted and. Now, it's just down to Tom Lolo has a conversation with Tom prior to the next stage converse competition stop saying conversation so competition. My big thing. She's a conversation with Tom before the competition about Tom sort of explaining his feelings. Why things happen the way that he did? He apologizes for any misunderstandings that might have happened so on and so forth. And and Tom feels good about Lolo after this conversation. It's a very important conversation because I think it does influence Tom's motives heading into his next HOA JR. However, of course, unbeknownst to Tom by the time Lillo gets back to Natalie. She is fully anti Tom again. And she's using this conversation against it. But like I said Tom doesn't know that Tom is going to win the next h h and now that he feels good about Lolo wants to keep Lillo safe. And he's like what low lows the person I wanna make a deal with which means it's open season on Ricky all aboard. The let's get out Ricky train. Let's go. Can't he doesn't like it. Though. Candy doesn't want to get on that train? Can he wants Natalie out like I said, she thinks that Natalie is a bigger threat to her. And she is so Tom is going to have some one on one meetings. He has a meeting with Rickey it's a tale of two proposals. One proposal being Ricky goes on the block the other proposal being Ricky doesn't go on the block. Tom's pro pro Tom's proposal is going to win. It's going to win. He's the he decides candy really wants Natalie out. So she talks to Tom and she convinced Tom to put up Natalie with Ricky instead of Lolo with Ricky. And that's what's going to happen. Natalie is going to go up on the block with Ricky Ricky at this point decides. I'm done. You got me. I got nothing. I'm a fall on my sword for you. Guys. You women. I'm just here to help you away. Tom. It used to be. Never mind. Tom is gonna win the veto. Crazy stuff. What's what's Tom gonna do lo-lose? Not sure. Because lo-lose talking about how Tom used her Olympic dreams to manipulator. How dare he what a terrible person. Tom tries to pitch an idea of using the veto with two candy and candy doesn't like this. She wants Natalie gone. Tom wants Ricky gone can't he goes to tame our and she tells taymor that Tom is thinking about using the veto taymor misinterprets. What's happening? She thinks that she's the target. She goes and she blows up on Tom out dare you, Tom. You got a me up. You're threatening people. You're such a bully Tom's. Like, no don't use that word. That's not even what's happening. Tom. He's cowed the feeds cut. Apparently. This got even worse than we didn't see it feeds cut Tom goes, he hides up in his room. We know the story next day veto ceremony. Hasn't talked to anyone he decides he's going to use the veto on Ricky put slow up in his place. Ricky is saved his new life in this game is not talking about falling on any swords anymore. He's like, oh what a shame that. I can't separate Fleiss myself for you guys. But now that I'm off the block I want to keep that only because I have a better relationship with her. And I think that it's better for my game moving forward. But I'm going to pretend that I'm gonna let you decide because I knew that Natalie has a stronger will. So how do we keep Natalie? He tries to keep Natalie with Tamar it makes final two with Tamar. They do their best here. But candy and Dina will not budge. They are not able to get low low to leave. So for the second time the zen angry cult is gonna fail at it and vixen vote and Natalie is going to be the next person to leave the game. Ricky is this is important to note a lot more respectful toward Tom after the veto is used on him. He's like, you know, what he's a good guy. I'm I'm still after him in the game. But were cool that were even. Important to note because Ricky's basically, the only one of them that does this for now at least so Natalie leaves the house, and oh, it's double the vixen time. It's time for an addiction. That's doubled. Tom's gonna leave in the double eviction. We we saw this all play it live on the show. That's basically all that happens. Ricky really wasn't involved too much there. Next week week seven probably something like that. Are still mad at Tom. He deserved everything. He had come. And he's the worst. Nobody talked to him outside of this house. I hate him. Again, Ricky standing up for Tom. Hey. Let's chill. We don't need to talk about Tom anymore. He's gone. We we don't need to talk about. This is fine. Rickie Zanu h that's huge for him. Because it guarantees them a spot in the final four and it also guarantees him a spot on me recapping his game. Because I know he's in the final four because they waited to play the veto so long why wait and play the veto so long. I know I know that Ricky was desperate to be the person who's game. I recap. I so. Big win for him that anyway, he solidifies his final two with Tamar. He tries to solidify one Lolo. But like I said just at the beginning of this update lo-lose starting to get concerned that Ricky can beat her and she's probably right about that. Probably. But who knows like I said, I do think that Ricky is played the best conventional game of big brother Lolo, certainly played a bad one of both big brother and celebrity big, brother. But who knows? So Lolo she she doesn't commit. She doesn't commit to Ricky. And she. This really says some bad things for Ricky Ricky's like if Lois not going to take me that's not good and he's going to start to consider. Maybe we should take Lolo out before the final four. We don't know if that's gonna happen yet. And we usually have recaps of games before things. Go to the final fun of five haven't even had the veto the final five yet. And the feeds are dead. I know some people are like, hey, it's always died toward the end of the game which one not true and to not final five this five people in this house. I should be doing something. But anyway, that's really where we land right now. Again, the story of Ricky is the story of Ricky Bobby is. Rickie Bobby story of Ricky. Oh is that he entered the game. He got a bad break at the start with how the lines of shook out. He took control of the game. He shattered this big alliance. He inserted himself with two fantastic allies who protected him. No matter what and were more disliked than even he was he then really just crushed his way through he made a his one massive error with really antagonist, Tom who turned out to be a cop beast. Which is a very bad thing. But overall, I do think as I've said before I think that Ricky is probably the the best conventional big brother player on the season. Maybe the third best celebrity big brother player this season after candy and Dina because hey, they're doing jury management, right? Ricky has started to do jury management right toward the end of the game. He's being more respectful. I think that, you know, maybe that's just innate maybe that's not strategic, but but DNA and candy have done it better. And they do deserve to win over him. However, it is my opinion that that Ricky has played a better game and has done better jury management than low low entail, mar. And so if he is able to get to the end with either of them, he either likely will win or maybe should win in my opinion. But if he doesn't win then maybe he shouldn't have won. So we'll see. But basically the way I'm looking at the votes right now the way that I'm reading the social media. I do feel like Ricky has Tom's vote. I think that Ricky has Kato's vote over taymor and Lolo based on the tweets that they're liking. And so on. So that's interesting to know. I do I do like the count in my head has Ricky beating both of them, but kind of by slim margins potentially you never know we're going to go over the jury votes in some detail on the round table tomorrow night. So that'll be interesting. We're going to have the form to go. That's going to go out and the audience is gonna vote. So we're going to go over the potential final two scenarios and who can beat who. And so that'll be interesting. Susan wants knows candy work on taymor at all. Yes, they have talked a little bit about like, hey, if I don't do right. Yeah. Totally. But not a whole lot. Question. Do you know if they had slot yet? They had slop prepaids Jonathan was on slop he mentioned that he was on slob. What was the point of it? I have no idea. Mito is going to happen at some point today. And then there will be a recap tonight though recap episode, and then we will recap the recap after the recap tonight and then tomorrow night at eight thirty pm eastern. We will have the roundtable final round table of the season. We will lock in our stock watch picks. We'll go over the jury votes and everything like that. Yeah. It's basically what I got an inward anymore questions. Particularly if you have questions about Ricky Ricky's game or anything else than from let me know, otherwise we will start to wrap this one up here. Like, I said the feeds are Ted nothing defeats are. So this is like record-breaking dead. Let let me tell you the the discussion about the season. Instead, the fiends are dead. It's everything's dead. I'm just standing here by myself literally right now slick yelling about a season. Hopefully, hopefully, people are still watching me right now. Do I think Ricky can win if he doesn't own his game and acts like a coach with his honor and integrity. Whereas if k mart owns her game, people might respect that. It's certainly possible. Ricky can be it self righteous. But taymor is also somebody who doesn't really own the truth either. So. I'm not sure I think I think the Lolo is the one who is more likely to be Ricky because Lolo is more genuine with how she feels about things who she often feels in way, that's really bad nasty, but she doesn't. Pretend I don't know. It's kind of hard to to think about that. But honestly, I feel like the jury's votes are probably fairly locked. But certainly, I don't think it's I don't think it's a kind of thing where Ricky is not capable of losing the votes. I think anybody if they get to the final two is capable of losing the votes to win based on their behavior, especially given the kind of people that they have played the game to be. Do you think the women made the right decision working with Ricky and turning on the guys? No, I don't. Do you think Ricky through the color blast veto? He said he did to candy. I'm he said he did did he probably not. But it doesn't ultimately matter who does Ricky win against a best. I think is the best shot against tame. Are I think that Lolo is a second best shot? And I don't think he can beat or candy. Maybe maybe he has a shot. No. I don't think he does. I think I think Dino or candy any of the other three. Let's see here did Ricky deserve his Heisman overpaid McNabb. I don't know how to pronounce that one. Yes. Is my guess who is the best jury management at this point. Best jury management would go to Dina followed by candy followed by Ricky followed by Lolo, followed by tamer, in my opinion. But we will likely get a more concrete answer to that. When we see people in the final why Dina she's in. She's in rooms by yourself talking about everyone that left Jonathan I loved you, Tom. Oh, I miss you, Tom. I really, you know, I wish I wish they didn't treat you the way that they did. I think that candy is a more like respected player, which could get her votes. But it's still a candy versus Dina vote. I'm not sure what would happen. I actually kinda think Dina might take that one. So. Knows. I think is when mean something different, brother. All right. Does Ricky so on candy gone over Dina? It's really it's up in the air. I think candy is really open. I think Ricky is really open right now to any possibilities depending on what happens with the veto. So I don't think we're really going to know who goes home. I think legitimately think anybody could go home right now. Depending on what happens with the veto taymor is probably the safest. But that's just because she's the only one willing to promise Ricky, she'll take him to the final two. If Lolo starts promising things, and they start thinking about how tame mar she has this connection with candy. Who knows they could definitely still decide they want out. But she's probably the safest at the moment. What did I think this season is a good question? I haven't watched it yet. But I heard it's very good. So I want to check it out. Stay tuned. I think that's all we got is Dina winning would be a sad win. I don't I disagree. Like, I said, I think Dina's probably the second best celebrity big brother player on the season. For what it's worth I've been saying that all season long. All right. All right. There we go. That's what we've got for you today. I hope you enjoyed the Ricky retrospective. And obviously this is just my perspective on his game. What I saw throughout the season as I said, probably the best conventional big brother player he played the most strategically of anyone in the house is that enough to win the game. Who knows? But but it's how I saw his game. I went through my notes and everything so tomorrow, I will update you on everything that happens today on the live feeds we'll hopefully get a chance to update you about who wins the veto and who's going to be going home as well. As potentially talking about some of the other players games, especially once we know who's actually going to be in the final four, so. There you go. Tune into nights. Tune into Morrow morning eleven Amy's you're in tune in tomorrow night at eleven thirty pm eastern the round table and. Thank you. You can find me on Twitter at Armstrong. Tony you can find me on Instagram tearing underscore on strong where I post pictures of me in Serie fields. And yogurt, and you can find me on twitch push on TV slash Taryn Armstrong. All right. Thank you guys so much for joining me on this wonderful lonely morning. Next on. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Monday Episode Recap Feb 4

Rob Has a Podcast

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Monday Episode Recap Feb 4

"From my apartment. It's rob has a podcast. And now, here's a man who's more awkward than that hug between Julie Chen, moon vest and Kato kaylin. I am rob suspending every welcome back. It is Vic shin night. Once again, we got a lot to talk about here on a night where we saw comedy legend Gallagher come into the house smash fruit and Kato kaylin was evicted from the big brother house a sentence that never in my wildest dreams. I ever imagine that I would say let's talk to the panel here tonight. We got a good one. Let's talk to I welcome back. Melissa, Danny, Melissa. How are you? I'm doing great. I realized in this during this up Assode that I still do not understand the comedic stylings of Gallagher that I do not it is not understand. It's hot for me. Groups that I thought that was the case. But now that I've seen it. Yeah. No, not for me. We'll talk more about it. As we go along here with Mr. Berendt walk Brian. How are you? I'm not doing. Well. What's wrong? Listen, I had been rooting for taymor. I love taymor. She had a power. She went and one h h and this is the worst week for her ever. Rob. I can't believe it. I am just so upset with her decisions this week, and we can get into it. But you would think after you had our and you one eight you age that it was a good week for you. But I contend us was her. This was her death now this week. Okay. We will hear exactly why as we are streaming here. Live tonight on Monday, the fourth as we are but nine days away from the finale of celebrity big brother two so be on the lookout for a lot of exceptions coming up real quick here over these next nine days. We are live here tonight on Robin's website at come hashtag RJ p take your questions to get them into the show and to move into the last couple of weeks of the show winter of Stein. We're going to do those on the next two Tuesdays. So look for a winter of Stein. Tomorrow morning, hashtag winter of Stein. Get your questions in winter of Stein at Robins webs. Adt com or leave us a voicemail talked to Eric Stein. Tomorrow morning about everything going on here. And then we'll do one last winter of Stein next Tuesday to get you ready for the finale, when's the LLC roundtable this week? Okay. Wednesday. Stein, Tuesday, Wednesday night, LLC roundtable, and then and 'nother show on Thursday night where I believe we'll get HOA and maybe veto saying up for double a Vic Shen in the two hour episode coming up on Friday night. So a lot to do here. And so brand you want to start us off to tame are and how she blew her shot. Okay. So going into this week KMart knows where all the pieces are on the board. Right. And if you if you weren't sure of that going into tonight's episode. You are certainly sure of it after tonight's episode when she's dire going, you know, this little bedroom crew that I got here. I feel like I'm number four on the totem pole to number four with no Liqi. Yes. Exactly. She knows they're all taking each other. And they're all equally dislike Ables, there's no frigging way that they're going to take her to the end. So she is right. If you like she is at bed. Best number four. And maybe even argue number five, they maybe candy is is to be at the end. It would be wrong, by the way. Anyway, so going into insurance competition, I'm thinking she has no business winning his whatsoever. Okay. And not only that way for she has a power that keeps her safe. She doesn't even need to win. And she has on one side, a Gelo that everybody hates and on the other side, a trio that has very very tight together that people sort of like they're not like the jury is not going to like them in the house. I guess people sort of get along with them. They're the in crowd right now. So she has all of this in front of her. She goes into H competition where she knows where everything is on the game board. And yet she still goes out and wins the competition, which is the worst possible can do once once I saw it was hurting eight at the end, I was like, you know, what I'm hoping that maybe cater. Oh rang in wrong, and she was pissed that she won. But no she wanted. She wanted to h h and rob this is terrible for her. Because the only thing she can do once she's made this deal with made nice with no Liqi. She has been maker nominations of Tom and Kato she has to follow through with that. There's no turning back on that. Otherwise, she's just everybody off. It has no chance to win at the end. So she goes ahead and puts Tom Kato up. But Tom, Cato going home is not the best thing for her. Because now one of them's going to be gone all three of no Lookie is still in the game. And she can't play for H next week. And she doesn't have a power. It's looking dicey. Because there seven people left in the game three people that are really tight, and basically it's Dina candy and Tom against no Liqi for H O age. She better pray that a little luck runs her way and one of her compadres when h wage or she's. She give me sitting on the this. I should get home. Okay. Just set the stage. No Liqi that is Natalie even Marie low low and Ricky combined now most is what brand is saying making sense, or because this is crazy world the celebrity big brother to is. Is it not as bad as Brent is making it out to be. I think it was a mistake on her part to win that h when it came down to her versus Kato, it would've been a lot simpler for her to get the blood any sort of blood offer hands and give it to Cato and be like, man, I lost it. And then worst case scenario of Cato turns on her she still has a power and then she can play in the H next week. So it just made no sense for her to win it. I don't think her winning this ends up being like, oh, no. That's the that's at for her. She's she's done. She's lost the game. But. But I think that it would have been waste martyr for her not to win. And you know, honestly, I just wanna say that watching this episode, and, you know, watching the feeds for the past couple of days, I've been super impressed with candy. You know, she's come alive. She's finally turned it on. She's finally started playing and not only that she's playing. Well, I feel like it was one of those things where it's like she's not playing at all. And if she does start playing like, what are we going to get from her like, I never really knew she was going to be good at the game or what? But she's actually making the most sense at everybody. She seems to have a really good strategic mind, and the fact that she was able to figure out, you know, this whole thing. And actually kinda get taymor are on board was just I was very impressed with her. And I really glad she started on hope. This isn't just know. A one time thing I hope she really keeps pushing for it. And I hope she really tries. And you know, I would have been interested to see what would have happened had anybody else that was playing when the veto. Do we have any insight into what would have happened? If the veto was won by either Tom or KEDO or even candy. My understanding is that Natalie Ricky would've gone up as a pawn, and they were still going to send whatever part of tomato didn't win the veto home. So I will say that I missed about four hour feeds today because I was casino wing. But that's my understanding of what happened. I don't think anything changed because the feeds worn on for the most part. Can't why was it Tom who was spared and not Kato where Julia even called out Tom green and said boy time that sounds like a resignation and he's like I have a feeling Julie. And then it turned out that KEDO at we'll I Kato is a much bigger threat to all them. Then Tom is they feel like Kato? Has the most winners equity in that he wins the most competitions. And he's the scariest player there. Whereas Tom, I don't feel like they're threatened by him in regards to Tom speech, though, he had recently been talking to Kato, and they he had told Kato like, hey, I think that what you need to do in. This scenario is pretend like you don't really care about the game. And that you don't really care about winning. And I think that that makes you seem like less of a threat. In their speeches. They were going to say like Cato was talking about saying something like, oh, I hope you win Tom or something like that. And Tom was like don't say that like we can't say those things because that will make us appear to be vigorous threat because it shows that the jury is on our side. So he really was kind of getting it when it comes to what to say, and what not to say in speeches. Normally, I don't really like these sorts of speeches that are like concessions features where they're just like, you know, this has been a great run, and, you know, miss every single one of you like, I really don't like those. But in this situation, I could see the logic behind it because he's trying not to appear like a big threat and trying to convince everybody else to keep him. So I really understood his logic here. Even though normally I'd be a little noise. Shades of big Meech in the speeches by colo-. I'm going home. Thanks. It's been fun. And they're like, no working you. We think we can stay on staying on staying in house. He was shocked and Kato kaylin had a rather insane. Twelve minutes of television from the victory speech on cable. Ceylan startling. He's like there's there's a play by Carl Reiner. And he goes into that it is for Tom for Tom. He said this. I don't even know what he's talking about here. A lot of people. I was loyal to him. They wanted to throw under the bus. I would never do it and be Tom might my driver's bus expired. My license two years ago, you were safe. My driver's bus expired, my license two years ago. I mean, I think the words are jumbled, but we can unscramble them. It's like. Like. This word play. We didn't need to scramble to them. What he said, I was frigging great after Tom gave that ramblings just got up there and said what Tom said great. Saying L down. And then he's got. Oh, no. I'm just kidding. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no shut up a lot of people. I was loyal to him. They wanted to throw under the bus. I would never do it and be Tom might my driver's bus expired. My license two years ago, you were safer. One. I think we unscramble it or something in there at the secret. Many comes out of the house. And he's like he's like how does the door? Do. I open it who opens we've never had this problem before with. How does the door work for the? Yeah. You open it leave. And then he goes to hug, Julie. I've never seen. Julie more scared with a houseguests who's like. Thank you. She like gave him the hug where like her. But is like four feet outside of the highly. Yeah. Like, okay. Let me I'll touch your shoulders here. And he said down with her and shoes Esme about being friends with Tom in the house, and he said twenty days, you really get to know someone your monkey mix recept together. Spunk. No, we had it with the time in the. Joins us, and I had the internet sought to. Yeah. You saw. Yeah. A lot of fun. I said he he's he's better when he talks less, but the interview with Julie was actually really really fun. She seems to be having a good time. He's just like I flashed back to what team are said when she was like, how did he? So speaking of Kato kaylin, how did he pass the celebrity part of the dish. And like he's just like he's like kind of normal guy team thrust into the biggest trial of the century and continue to live is live. So I feel like you still kind of quirky and fun like. What was he like on the witness stand? I mean, he was he was an airhead. Was better. Yeah. You're more memorable appearance on the witness stand. So mister Kaelin on on on the night in question. What did you hear when Mr Simpson returned to the house buzzer? I was right there. And I was thinking I knew it was going to be a said it's good to be used a ten. Really? He's not lying though. People in with a only know lick is on the block. This was I honestly was on the edge this episode. I was I was like frozen in fear. I was go- stressed out. And then after the veto it was like, okay, never mind doesn't really matter. Like, okay. But but for like half the episode. Investing. Rob. That was a great veto draw for. For them. They had the best veto dry. All they have to do is beat Lolo. Because honestly, if chain Marcotte it, I think candy could have convinced her to use it like, I honestly think something could have happened. I don't think it was like they were drawing dead. If k mar one so literally all they had to do eat, low low and not only that this was a comedian competition. Reading watch comedy. I don't even understand. Oh my God. This is four Tom Cato. This is them this is their veto. And then it was like oh. And four Kato all he had to do was witness events happening and reliably able to recount the events if you're OJ, you gotta be like, hey, get this guy back out here, and he's reliable. He can't remember things that happened. Todd. It really built for them. I will say that taymor really wanna Kato out. So I if if she when the veto I don't think there's any way she was using it. I think that there was a chance at possibly I think if Tom veto that's catering veto. That's where we're Leslie Natalie. Even Marie goes up. Doom reminds me in the chat, but Natalie Marie probably would have gone home. If she was, but I don't think that necessarily would have been that way. If anybody else on the okay, I mean, like consider the fact that the other possibility is that Ricky Lolo and Natalie all play in veto anything. There's no chance there. And so this was just I I saw the players for Vito. And I was just like RA we got this. This is very exciting up. So we're about buyer works. And then it was like nothing. So Brent was this all everything about okay, we're gonna potato on the block we're going to go after Kato Kato in the. Kato go should go home over Tom green. Is this all going back to the taymor being upset about the the miss Cleo, slur, in-house, no, not just that this celebrity should Milikian crown had come to byu Kato as sort of being alpha to Tom, and I know that sort of weird shipping about on the outside. But he was coming off that way in the house on the fact that he's a pretty physical guy and one of physical competition and Tom has done a pretty good job of sort of giving up. I mean, he's not giving up, but it's sort of an action that way, I think there have been times where he has given up in the house, but then ever been other times where I think he was maybe laying on a little bit thick. And I think they were also really pissed off at Kato from that conversation that he had with Lolo where he banged on the table a couple times and then white about it afterwards. I can't remember it was like one or two, but they were convinced that it was more than one. He gets saying it was one eight. And they wouldn't own shit then. So they wanted to they wanted to get him out of the house, and that combined with the fact that they thought he was running the show with him. And Tom meant keta was going to be out. If you didn't win the veto and did Melissa. Would you say that this isn't a steak that Tom has more win equity? Then keta us. I do think Tom as more win equity. And I think if the situation where if they got Tom out, I I don't see a situation where KEDO can really find a way to work with these people at all or like finagle his way to the end. Whereas I think Tom I think he has the possibility to work with them. And I think that they don't nearly see him as as much of a threat. So if anything happens between the three the no lick each team or whatever, and they're all extremely volatile. So anything could happen between them to break up this alliance at any minute, literally any minute. So if anything happens, I think Tom can kinda slip in there and like fine his way. Whereas I don't really see Kato bonding with any of them or like really having a good. I don't see a path forward there. So Tom, I think has a better chance just as close as a huge. Stake letting Tom stay I don't know what they were thinking they had it. Right. We go when they wanted to victim. I and then Kato Kato is not going to do anything in this house. He's not going to. He doesn't have the respect of anybody in the house. Tom. They haven't mad at Tom. Of course, it cutting chauvinist and call him threatening whatever. Okay, ountry stuff, but he's not reacted badly stuff. He is. He is kept his head about him. And I think that that is earned him a little bit of grudging respect from a few people in the house, and I do feel like he could make his way to the end if things break right for him here. Now, he's going to have to dodge a bullet this week. If if somebody from no looking ones wins, h h he's definitely going on the Bach. There's a fine chance that he could go home. But if he can survive this week and things could shake up a little bit. If you have to betray each other's what they said they were going to do then is of half-point. I mean, I also think we saw even just at the end of this episode when they were doing like what let's ease draft on the houseguests already saw Ricky talking to Tom and being like, look, I'm not as shady or whatever he said is you may think and he's like, no, no, no. I know and they were kind of like chatting, and then you know, Lolo and Natalie were kind of joking with Tom about like, oh, you thought, you relieving. Fire here, whatever and I just felt like it. There was a possibility for Tom Takata just lend the background a little bit. I mean, it's very slim possibility possibility that he could and you know, you never know with Lolo Lolo, especially Ricky, I totally see Ricky turning on a Lillo in leave and raving like, okay, we're like nearing the end. I should like go with candy and jamar. I could totally see that happening. So I think that there is some there some way that Tom can work his way in this. I mean because honestly all the stuff that was said about Kato in town. It was all this like Dylan ising stuff where they were just trying to make them out to look at. I don't think that Tom in Cato. Are these villains that no Liqi is trying to make them out to be was honestly, this past week has been very very hard to watch on feeds it's gotten so brutal. And so just just uncut. Terrible. It's very personal. And I'm very surprised that this is happening during a celebrity season. 'cause you'd think that they'd try in, you know, maintain their reputations. Or like, you know, leave the house, you know, with people still liking them. I feel like that would be important to them because there's the libraries, but okay, it was very shades of big brother nineteen and that was a very hard season for me to get through. So it's been the one I actually don't believe that that was Ricky trying to denies the time. I think he was actually trying to start something the chats actually also saying that he was rookie is like the king of passive aggressive. And I take your point. Maybe maybe he was being authentic there. But he hasn't really been been offense with Tom at all. There's time did react well to it. Yes. Something else. I think a lot of messages from people who are not really thrilled with with Terence view on things. And and they think he's nowhere to go with those opinions defense of Tom at various times, not me. I am pro Tom. I am not pro Tom. I don't think terrorists proton either of that as a may, I am not pro Tom and anything I say, I'm I'm trying to call them as I see them. I think the Thomas late of very messy game. And I also think at times he is not behaved well, especially during the past week. He is not innocent in all of this. But I think he's more innocence than Lolo and Natalie Marie, and that's important. Okay. All right. I wanna go back to what you were saying about how that you think it's possible that Ricky could turn on the Natalie even Marie and low low potentially, do you think is it possible? Another way out for Tom could could he potentially be able to. Start the war between no Liqi and taymor and candy and Dina, and then have the two sides of the house potentially firing at each other where he remained safe this week. I think it's possible. I think that's asking a lot because you've got Dana and candy over there on one side. And like, I don't think either of them are very likely to win head of household. It's possible. And if they do that's amazing, but I just feel like those are not super likely to win HOA of anything. I would say any someone on that side winning h would be Tom. So he'll end up right in the middle of the action all over again, if you Wednesday Joe h so growing part of the double vision, right? So I just think that it's that that is what I would love to see. I would absolutely love to see a situation where there's two sides of the house, and it's not just like, okay. Now, we get out Tom now next to get out Dina now next week out candy. Now next week out Chaim, mar now, we're just the three of us or it's just like that's something. That's so boring to me. So I'd like to see a more even field. What we told you about this could get because I sure the show complaining about Shamar and her decisions this week. If Tom wins the veto this week and one of no Lookie is in power. What are you going home? You can't he's going home. Do you think Dina's going home, or do we think tame our is going home because one of them has to go home? If Tomlin's veto. I came are go home, which would just show what a boneheaded move. This was back. I love taymor. But she deserves to go home after this boneheaded move. I hope it doesn't happen. But if it happens, I told you so okay. We'll see what have crucial h for time. Yes. It would he would be safe. It be a bad spot for him to be in coming out of this H almost ensure that he's going home in the second part of the double. Vixen if he wins, h I think in at this point in order for Tom to stay. It's like he's got a win either veto or NHL h I just think getting into really dicey water here. I mean unless candy can win Joe age, then if candy Wednesday Joe wage than there's a chance that he could survive the next the devil of action. But if if if you have a low low HOA JR or something I feel like if that's gonna go really poorly for him. Mm caving in. The Chad says tame Argos home wigs stay in the house. She's looking fine. With those wigs. I have to. I do love the blonde. But I love the weed tonight. That was looking that was looking straight. I most drag race can't even do do here. Like that. Br is crazy. Visit Tom green is better off if he can only win one. He's better off winning the veto this week in the h. Yeah, actually, I do think that's true. I don't because I feel like the move is made four and whether he's h h or not if if somebody from that side his side of things, candy, Gina, Tom. They're all going to go after no Liqi. So there's no point in it really being h h I mean, obviously, if if he has to win it he has to win because he doesn't want to go on the block, but I would much rather him just have the veto or not even have to worry at all and just wait for H next week or next week on during the double of Vic shin because if he's h h this week, and then he can't play during the double vision, I feel like it's James Maslo all over again. And he'll go out during the double. I wanna talk from a structural point of view in terms of these episodes. So we've had a lot of live veto competitions on the vixen night episodes where normally that snot something we have on the vixen. We have eviction and followed by a live H O H, Melissa d you prefer the format change here in celebrity big brother with a alive veto competition. In the middle of the episode followed by an addiction, and then the interview to close the episode or do you prefer would you rather? Have the veto episode already? Aired then we come in. And then we have the vote, and then we end this the show with a live H competition. So for the episode itself for the episode watching it's exciting because you don't know what's going to happen. Coming into the episode and anything could happen after the veto. And then you know, that's exciting because you get to see everything play out all at once. But for feed watching. It's absolutely awful total garbage has literally that makes today totally pointless. So nothing that's going on after the nominations matters at all because you're like, okay. Well, it's really going to matter is the veto. And we're not going to see any strategy talk after vito's. So she Chom Tom tells us back door plans before the. Exactly. So basically, you get nothing. So the feeds today were like totally boring pointless because we didn't know everything was dependent on who won the veto. And so if you don't get to know who won the veto until the episode, then there's no point in even watching the feed. So it it really is super lame. Berry citing it's like watching it double fiction Levitt, John. Oh, I guess you have. So it's okay. I like we said we were both checked out after a half hour because we know the layout of the house and we saw when the veto where like we know it's happened now. So I much prefer more of the power is decided with an age of, you know, just means, you know, a or b goes home, but with an h in entire side could be safe or an entire site could be up for grabs up for vixen. So I much prefer live H. That's a lot more fun. And I that's that's runner anyway. Okay. So Brent were you familiar with the works of Gallagher? I have seen commercials like like long commercials for Gallagher. I remember I'm forty four years old. Yeah. Nls to way before that. We're like they would advertise his comedy shows. And they would do it during like daytime game shows how they got you. Yeah. So a game show fan. And so they would show these like, you know, three five minute long commercials. Somebody's even like maybe half hour. I'm trying to remember of Gallagher, and like the last I saw Gallagher bitch had red hair. I think he he never had red hair. Thinking of top charity. Same idea, very similar, very similar prop comment. Yeah. I have. I am. I'm familiar barrister. I'm pretty sure carrot top was probably guys commercials as well. If everyone is but. Yeah. I know Gallagher, and I because you know, the cultural reference, you gotta know what's going on in the world. I guess whatever. But this guy, I don't get it. I'm sorry. It's like, I it must just be something that I just don't it does delegates humor. I don't get it at all. It's like what's not together? Wise smashing stuff funny. It's not to be in the audience. You have to have the plastic. She did Nixon with carrot top. I was remembering the correct Gallagher with the smashing pumpkins. And with the plastic over them in the in the in the audience. So yes, this their audience spun Geraci home, it's boring is how well yes. See in the seventies. I think there was no YouTube. So if you wanted to see what it looked like to see objects smashed with a giant mallet get to go give Gallagher fifteen dollars and go sit there with a poncho on. So you weren't gonna get fruit smashed on you. How did CBS fly on the wall entertainment? How did they come up with that idea for a competition? Skit Gallagher in here. Oh, catholic. I don't know. It was it was kind of awkward. He wasn't even that good live. I couldn't understand what he was saying. He was Bill. Old. I was like is this supposed to be for the competition because I can't hear you. And then the celebrities they're not even watching they're covering their eyes delegate did not look good. He did not works. A course saying client just cast in in maybe like in the running and then the consolation prize. Nash some items. I just don't get it. I don't get. It does not like are you? Why he's probably very nice. I'm sure I'm sure unless here's what I will do for you. Because that I made you sit through Ricky Williams and Kato kaylin and the coal in a week ago. I'm going to save the rest of this Gallagher discussion for the winter of Stein with Eric sign, and I will I will have the rest of the Gallagher conversation with Eric Stein. Tomorrow on the podcast for you. Eric and explain it to me. Coop. People do that that next. I'm sorry before you move on route. I wanted to be on something really quick here and talk about on the life feeds that, you know, Tom, and Cato had been going on about the fact that the house really celebrated when taymor won her h wage competition, and that's when they really ostracized tomato. And you know, they were sitting in their bedroom and Thomas Orson and their bedroom. And we were like from the way from the retails of it it sounded like the celebration was a bit much having watched it. It was a bit much, but I have been long time big brother fan. I have seen way worse. So for celebrities. I can understand why they were a little bit peeved did go on a little bit much. I mean, we see every season of real big brother one side of the half celebrates too much when somebody wins. Nobody. No, no big deal. So Brit Lollo one competition and tweet it. Yes. This is the first medal. Title in Lolo Jones's career. She held up host forever. And I love it. Because Julie she'll be took so long to read the results. Like Lolo was literally in that weird plex owes for like, I don't know like twenty seconds. Huge kinda liked it. I'm not gonna lie. I kinda liked it. I say like, honestly, I was sad that she wanted. 'cause I was hoping that something exciting was going to happen and someone's gonna use veto. And I knew what the result of the shoe put it, but I really I just loved it. She already knew she had it. She just like. So the Julia was getting mad. Everybody was like changing their things you needed to see like is stop touching. Stop. It. Guys. Do not leave your leave your thing. And everybody's score was up there on the board like four three three four. I haven't seen this many fours threes since the LLC roundtable stock watch last week. Thank you all week. Even lower. It's been like well you like to our own Matla gory brought up. The fact that Julie keeps telling him to wait, wait, wait till I tell you to reset before turning your boxes around. And then she never tells them to Turner bucks. There with it. But I thought I was being all funny talking about low lows first medal. It wasn't lost on Lolo. Yeah. Like an Olympic medal the veto metal folks finally won like it. That's why she wouldn't use it. She didn't want to give it away. There was no there was no chance for low low. Also that the Tina low hand in the veto any h h competition when they showed the magazines of everybody Dina, low hand buzzed in and wanted to go with the Jonathan bed at magazine because I see Jonathan playing games. I miss it in the house so much. So I just take. Petition was ridiculous because they all look like Photoshop fails to me. One of them like they show Jonathan with the video game. And it looked so poorly voted looks. The photo. That's the problem one. Right. He wouldn't be playing video games. I picked that one. I just want to point out that Dino Hannah's your current front runner for the win. Is Jerry what? Issue throwing the competition or she just going. Shout outs to you know, who else. I really liked Brian locked e liked him Jerry management. She's got it down down goal confessional. We'll just be her talking about some prior houseguests and how much she loves them deny miss. I miss Jonathan to. I think he was he was a bright light. It was fun to see him get addicted. I because I think he kind of had to come in in some ways. But I do miss when he was about funny love being there. And some of these people can just really great on my nerves though, you know. The magazines were ridiculous. Even the one that tame our one on. She's like uh something look step if that doesn't look right that she actually saw anything. She's like, I don't think that they would go go sledding. Honestly, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with it. Looks like all of them are wrong. Yes. I was at home. Pausing it going trying to figure out which one was the was the wrong one. And I had all the time in the world. Did I still couldn't figure out? What was the wrong thing? Those I'll look bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. Also tonight from going back to Julie and her an interviewing Cato, Cato. Why why why get an alliance with Natalie eve Murray and low why why did you work with them Cato? Why didn't you aligned with Lolo and Natalie even? Sane. But she has a fair point. I like how she's shading Natalie even Marie and Lolo by asking that question. She's basically, why did you align with two backstabbing loses. Why did you do that Kato? I like it was it was. Good. They're beautiful every little pervy such a ham. News like Julie yourself. Oh, my. More per like, calm down. You are famous because you were subletting from a guy who murdered his wife calmed down enough. Shh, come down Kato from one pay and man to another just bring it down. And you're like you're on a eighteen turn it down. Kato? You know, what I will say that like, you know, I I did enjoy Kato on the season. I felt like I was surprised with how much he came to play. I feel like when I saw the preseason stuff. I was kind of like a boy this guy's going. This is just over already before it begins. But then he actually doing a job. I really liked his friendship with Tom. I'm actually sad to see him. Go. I was hoping that something would happen. And he and Tom would fold the to stay this week and kind of keep the sides even. So you know, I'm disappointed about that. I just I he's he's a little much much much. That he spoke to DNA at times, he's very condescending diverse and really don't I don't think he's a very great communicator. And I think that was part of his downfall. Because he just didn't know how to speak with people about things, and you kinda needed Tom there to kind of step in and turn the conversation and a good, mommy out, whereas Kato would just like destroy everything. Vide needed each other. Because Kato was the one who was stopping Tom wanted to back door Ricky journ week two and came was Kate. It was like absolutely not. We're not gonna do that. They did they did need each other for sure. Each other. But yet they didn't seem to really do any good because that's what a week three Thomas h h he wants to backdoor Ricky and now catos on board within and he should've stopped him and said, no, this is a bad idea. We should not tell the girls that we want to back door Ricky at least before the veto competition is played out. Was there all the things that they did wrong? This was needed to they needed. They would go over these ideas, and they would take turns on going with like the worst idea. So. Good idea and the other one would have a bad idea and they'd pick the data. Only they just went with the other. I if one of that one bad idea was a and the the more bad idea was be the buzzer. I was right there. And I was thinking I knew it was going to be a said it's going to be ever used at ten. Really, really? Exactly, it was it was like they would talk so much and you'd be like, they'd say, so many different ideas. And then you'd hear a good idea. And you'd be like, oh there it is. That's the idea that's the idea. And then they kind of pass over it for the next idea. And it was kind of like feeling out where the ideas are instead of taking the right idea that they did land on at one point. They would just go with an idea that hurt their game. You saw Tom Cato both of them like a couple of in the competition. They were like like turning the thing back and forth. And then inevitably like put it on the wrong like. Yeah. I was like all of a sudden keta would have the right one. Then he flip it back and they'd be on the right one. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Let's take some questions from the listeners here tonight. And why don't we start off with our listeners are working hard intrepid listeners tweeting live tweeting the show here is the Melissa bought with a tweet on the show tonight. At Melissa bud says, I hope Kato stays hashtag BB celeb-. And about asked which was more boring. The Melissa bots tweet or the Super Bowl. Julie is not giving out any information about the Super Bowl. Brent that was that was kind of mean, I didn't understand her troll. Now, she's being she doesn't. She's like well. I can tell you. It was the most boring Super Bowl ever. Maroon five really stunk it up. There's nothing fun. There's nothing fun. You guys very lucky. You didn't have to watch it. It was weird. Because Pat TV gave the Rams didn't show up. TV gave them cupcakes. The other day of the of the two teams and told them which teams were playing in it, and it was supposed to be. I thought that Julie was going to reveal who won. And then did the press, buddy. I thought copy off Jimi was going to reveal the one. But then she didn't. So. Yeah, it was very weird too. It was like she was going to. And then she was like I'm hearing in my head peas. So we're just going to move on. In her program. How about next year Gallagher for the Super Bowl halftime show? Oh my gosh. Gosh. I don't think this is on board with that. Like, hey, what's his waka moly? Okay. All right. Superbowl snakes. Toes-to-toes? Okay. All right. Let's go to another question. De check this out here is now at tender Taryn with a also getting in there. What is the say? I'm I'm so nervous for Todd. So our tender Taryn and the Melissa the team funds supporters are they working together. Literally, the key to getting your tweet on his just tweet the most mundane boring. Bag tweet like so boring show. I love this competition. That's what you have to do on the show or they're only fake Brent council. Social media talking about that. Right. Yeah. How come they? This is the real Brent just so active on. If there was one he tweeted like one time. I mean, I take it as a badge of honor that there is. No, I mean, providence pointless to have a parody of me. I am the parody. Okay. All right. Let's go more questions. Kyle says does tonight's episode show. Why big brother cannot work for a single up said format compared to survivor when showing the veto competitions along with the vixen? Tonight's episode. Yeah. We the most hundred if you agree. But I felt like we got more strategy. I know Taryn deadly breezy, waited it out. We got more strategy talk in this episode than we did in other episodes where we had a lot more. Cut out the colon segment. I know you guys are down in terms of the show versus the the live feeds in terms of you know, what they're able to show, but I feel like that the shows have been pretty good lately. Well, I just watching the TV show if you're somebody. You're watching whatever, however, many hours a week. I think you've been entertained. My mom is a casual she's been entertained. She's asking if you questions, but overall, she's had a great time. So I think they're winning with the Casuals with with their bread and butter fans who they kind of need to look to a little bit more. I feel like sometimes I feel like they're doing not such a great job. Like, we've lost a lot of great content over the past week and a half that they just totally ended up on the cutter inform. I said that there was a lot of it. And so I I also think that this is a unique situation because this is big brother celebrity versus regular big brother where they literally don't care about people's reputations. So I think that if this were regular big brother, there would be a lot more confrontation shown a lot more of the drama, not necessarily that. That's something that makes a good show for me. But I think a lot of the strategy has come from this drama. So I think that the reasoning behind some of these decisions is not being accurately portrayed in. It's kind of. Like, wait. What why is? So and so against so and so now, it's just like it's not really fully explaining it. Because in order to fully explain it. You're gonna make some people look really bad. Ryan. To avoid Robbie. They took the celebrities inch the room. I a couple days ago. They said, you know, this is a fun game. Try try and tone down the little bit. So they don't want them to look bad on a normal season. They would just let them all hang out to dry, then they don't get anything about those people. I understand that the life feeders are frustrated because it's not what a regular season what you're used to in terms of people playing hard. But I'm just saying that for the what they're getting for the TV show. I think that they're probably very happy with what they have for the show. But I think if you compare this with last big brothers leathery like if we're not if we're gonna even just take out regular big brother just because it's such a different animal, and we're only getting comparative celebrity last season was like seven hundred million times better than this season. We're hilarious to some of the segments. They would show they were funny segment. And so like, and then they actually I feel like they accurately portray the strategy. I feel like there were good diary room sessions where you really got to get a good feel for what people were thinking. Whereas this season. I just feel like I just feel like it's all over the place, and I feel like the little like filler segments, which are normally like kind of energy. Are just like so bad. I don't remember how they did the competitions last season. But in terms of the schedule I mean, we have these nights where we in a one hour episode. We're getting to competitions and innovation and so there's not really a lot of time left for that. I remember last season they were doing I think it was two hours on Friday every single week. So we would have it would be like two hours on Friday for one Vic shin where we would get a lot of what was going on a night or two during the week. And then ultimately addiction on a Monday innovation on Friday. But here we're getting like. A almost every episode. We've had an addiction recently. And then it sort of we have a veto and h n ended alive Vic Shen in these episodes. Go ahead. Because my least favorite part of big brother or the competition. I cared nothing for the competition's. Like literally, you could take them out and been a wheel usually to. Now, did you find with me because I don't care it all these competitions? Like, sometimes I fast forward them. If I'm not on a podcast that night. So like the fact that like the episode is like like seventy five percent competitions. Really is. You know, what I will say that with this week coming up there is a chance that that just change a bit. We have Thursday night is not a victim episode. Although we probably will get the h veto episode competition in that episode, but we have a two hour episode coming up on the double of addiction, so two hours for the double vision. Feels like that we can pick up some time there. I stuff besides competitions. Okay. Jessica says was Tom purposely. Yelling fun, fun fun. When he hosted h competition to poke fun at Lolo. Yeah. I think so I mean, I can't I can't read his mind. But that would be my read on the situation that it's gotten pretty caustic between those two sides. And I think he was I think dieting two things happening never won anything. He was Polk. Poking a little fun trench rolling them a little bit and never too. I think this celebrities weren't giving him any energy whatsoever point in time where he's like, okay. I thought that was worth laws, but I guess. The hate him so much. We don't we're not even listening to you hostess competition. Screw you. Tom. This is one from Andrew have you noticed that they change the angle of when the huskies leave now so holding the door open thing he comes with branch. Is that true? They have changed angle at least a couple times I've seen, but as I tweeted to Andrew when I saw this tweet earlier before the show that's not gonna stop him from holding the door open because the people who. Flipping board. They don't care about a camera. That's there in the studio. They care about the people in the audience. They just want to see the studio audience and see Julie. So that's the reason they're holding the door open. And by the way, Ricky was asking Kato to hold the door any city like two or three times. Can you? Hold the door open. Shut that doors face off to me. Why the hell am I gonna show why have wild? Why am I gonna hold the door? But for you. That's why that's what I would've said. Honestly, give me out of here. Okay. All right question from Mindy. It seems like that they are playing celebrity big brother US to in an alternate universe. Tom loses a veto featuring a comedian to Lolo, maybe big brother had pulled out hurdles tonight. Tom would have won the great. Jessica Lisa calls the say five whole task going back to I believe an amazing race Canada. Where if they have a challenge that is seems like it's exactly catered for you to win it. And then you. Lose it. That she coined that term of five whole, and that's what this might have been for Tom. I can buy that. Yeah. It was also a memory competition. He's a smart guy. Like, I don't understand why he did so badly although to be fair, I watched Gallagher TSU T, and I feel like I missed a lot of. So well. Okay. Ian, wasn't it? Should they have had Gallagher smash tomato seems like a missed opportunity opportunity. Really glad Julie Fulda Kato their alliance name. Yeah. Yeah. You guys like tomatoes? Natalie and what's been role and that one? Yeah. Gallagher should have brought my my draft team out. Like, hey, you guys wanna see me smash draft team. Moods. Are you kidding? You bought that record shy. That she got a mal again on the move turns out. He wasn't even a real house guest. Okay. All right. Does not get a mulligan is tearing Armstrong taking Jonathan Bennett with first pick. Hey, it's my my draft team right now. It's low low or GT f. Ow. Go night team is killing it up. Looking good Melissa could be could be going on a run here. Let's see. This is crazy mean, mommy. What could go wrong wasn't Natalie even marines conversation with taymor about keeping candy more threatening than anything Kato or Tom ever done? I would agree. And now, I friends that taymor took that. So well, I was surprised she took it. So well to Melissa I don't think that anything that Tom or KEDO done can be considered threatening. It's look here's the thing. It's all in the eye of the beholder. And if you don't like them, it can if you're threatening if you do like them or you don't care about them. It's probably going to come off as non-threatening. I just say this. I'm not I'm not a fan of Tom on on defending them, and I'm not against him, but scienc- fence attain eighties and gentlemen, I ended up because I'm objective, and I'm just calling him as I see the vaca. When Tom was talking with KMart trying to figure out what he looked crazy about the power that was his undoing and he started behaving like a bit of a mad, man. And you could take some of the things that he did as threatening. New within the game not physically threatening you but threatening you within the game. And some of the house did not take Kylie to that. And that's where it began to unravel for him. Okay. All right, Scott. We got anything else. All right. We're going to start to wrap things up. Let's see who is better hair. Joe, you're Gallagher. Come on come on come on come on, man. What are USA actually say like pip in the shadow say not necessarily quote threatening? Yeah. It was like it was he was threatening in quotes. But not really threatening. That's that's the key with Tom. Okay. All right. All right. We're going to start to wrap things up Scott. So anything else from tonight that we did need to touch on? But nothing really I did want to touch on that conversation. They Natalie taymor. I can see somebody into Chad. This is me an indie says that the conversation that Natalie had with taymor was gross made me dislike her believe it or not it actually made me like her a little bit more because she is still playing balls out in a horrible game. I don't think it's a wind brother game on celebrity big, brother. She's talking a lot of trashy about people that that girl is hungry to win. She wants things done her way. She. As a strong woman, and she's not putting up with any bullshit. And she went in. There said look if this doesn't happen we got problems, and I feel like that if a man went in there, and so something like that. I feel like maybe like, well, he's exerting his wool in the house. The fact that she went in there people have a problem with. No, I'm not gonna get on it for that. They're plenty of other things to get on her for that harvest fine. Okay. All right. Melissa anything. Any other final thoughts tonight. I just I'm not a huge fan of some of the language that's being used in college to describe what's going on there saying like bullying threatening like a Grasset. I just feel like that sort of stuff is not used lightly. And I think that they're using it extremely lightly. And I think that they are throwing these words around an accurate that will follow people. And I think that that's in really poor taste considering that. I don't think anything that tomor Kato has done in the house could be considered. To be. Like, there's also language about like chauvinism. Like, oh, he's like, you know, whatever I I don't like it. And I think that it's it's not a good look to be throwing that stuff around. And I don't think that anything that has been done in the house so far should follow anyone for the rest of their lives or should never career listen. So I think that this two points where this stuff will follow person that happens in big brother, a one if it's on the TV show, and then to if it gets picked up by like the TNZ's of the world where then you Google the person it's like the top results until either of those things happen. I don't think there's anything from the live feeds that is going to go on and haunt any of these celebrity big brother contestants outside of the celebrity house. Most is correct. I don't like those words coming up because I feel like they're buzzwords and social media like their dog. Whistle words. Like what you say threatening. We know what you're. Talking about. Now, you may say why wasn't talking about that? But you're using that word, and you know, what that words connotation is. So it's a bad call. Yeah. If I hear that someone's been threatening someone in the big brother how that a man has been threatening a woman in the big brother house and is very aggressive with her. I'm like an I just see that in writing. I'm like, whoa. This person must be a psycho. Like, I know afraid of this person like that person is just terrible. And really like those are words being used which like maybe the context is different. But none of the stuff would be considered that I just feel like it's a lot of falls like big claims that are going around. And I just think that there's some there's also a lot of talk about people outside the house, and you know, about Lolo and about all this stuff. And it's just kind of like, these are people everyone like, I know these are celebrities and people can sit there and say like, oh, you know, they put themselves in the public eye or whatever. But it's like come on everyone like let's all just like chill out and that same sentiment goes. For past houseguests, a big brother and all the drama. That's going on right now. Like come on guys. Like, let's just chill out everyone and not like trion ruin people. We're behind keyboard. It's like, let's stress all take. So Wilson, by the way, doom in the Chad is saying that Tom has done nothing that he needs to apologize for period. I basically agree with you. However, I disagree with you that he doesn't need to apologize. I don't think he'd Meads to apologize morally speaking. But I do think that for game purposes. It would be wise of him to apologize and say, hey came up threatening. If I came up as this. I am really sorry. I did not mean to do that. Sounds like we have a lot of misunderstandings growing on your house that have spun out of control, and it would do everybody. A lot of good to say, you know, what my bad my bad. No, no. It's my fault my fault. I shoulda and then let's start the conversation. And that would be. For the game that conduct getting vote here and there, but maybe that he otherwise would not have who knows said that. Okay. I'll let me knows. Okay. All right. So well said Melissa get all we can all do better. Okay. Let's talk about what's coming up. Oh rupe? Paul's drag race stars for episode. Eight Rupe cap? It was a doozy. Ok me. Mike, bloom and Liana Boris recapped. It it is in your rap of feed, and we had a lot of fun with that one and a very fun outcome. Okay. Beyond the look out for top chef season sixteen episode nine as well. See what all of the top chefs are up to as well in our hap- ups feed. And oh, Robin. Akiva need a podcast episode on the hap chiller, so this podcast. Of course. We're kiva Winokur an ice spin a wheel of pod listener submitted podcast. Ideas. This was one that we set up a kiva setup our listeners on dates around the country and had them record. What how the dates went? And we finally get to hear how the Rodney beat podcast listeners did on their blind dates on Robin. It gives you if I guess we have Haley strong on that podcast. So check that one out very fun from over the weekend. And then Angelina, and I got to speak finally got to ask her a lot of the bird questions when we when we went through it. And we talked about all of the epic moments that she had in the it really is uncanny. How many how many big moments in the course of virus season? One woman was involved in. And there's a lot there. Angelina did a great job talking all of it through. So be sure to check that out in. Our survivor feed Taryn will be back live in the morning to talk about the new HOA choose likely to go up on the block eleven AM eastern. Eight AM Pacific go to RHA p dot live anytime to jump in. And then the winter of Stein. Blowing in all of your Gallagher, talk magazines unit hashtag winter of Stein to get your questions in tweets and LLC roundtable you back again on a Wednesday night as well. So be on the lookout for that. And then I'll be back again live at ten fifteen pm eastern time after Thursday night's celebrity big brother episode as we get ready for Wednesday Friday nights, double of Vic show so much happening right now in the world of RHA would not be possible without the support of our amazing patrons five years or running going strong. Rob has a website dot com slash patron. For more information about everything that is going on. And how they part of our rob is podcast patron community. Rob has website at com slash patron for that. Thanks so much to Scott saint-pierre behind the scenes. Any any other parting words? Good. I was just reading the chat a little bit try and catch up. But I think we're good anything else show the else. Good from the chat. Brent? No. I think we've answered everybody's questions. And yeah. Okay. All right. He's out there making. Yes. What's been the verdict on the on the controversial? I have had a lot of support for people. Who are like I am with you. Appeasred? Peter. My lamb. Let's get Melissa's take here. Taryn punted when he had the opportunity to the inner out on the Ps most of where do you come down? Ps Melissa lamb chops are typically prepared with peace. And so I set my because my partner makes Lynch house all the time. And I said, I do not like the Ps and I make him remove the peas or do not even put them on my my lamb chops. When he cooks them. Do you like your lamb chops with peas ever had lamb chops peas, but I do like peas in general, my partner would call you a heathen? All right. That sounds like Melissa is is put her in the pro peas camp. Yes. She likes peas gala, and I say, okay. All right. Let's get out of here. All right. Thanks, scott. Saint-pierre take everybody have a good one. Bye.

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I mean from Mars perspective. She's finally mended this relationship with candy. So it's, you know, not good in the whole day was just them trying to convince her like, oh, it'll be fine. She'll be friends with you outside the house. It doesn't matter. Yeah. That's really what's going on. I I was surprised how many people were surprised by what happened last night. Maybe they just don't listen to the updates. Maybe that's what's going on. Because this is what taymor had been saying for a while. We weren't exactly sure. What what she was going to do? But but she had mentioned that hey, I wanted to I don't want to ruin my relationship with candy. We've were mending things like this is big in real lifelike like career wise like it's not good for me to be in a feud with candy. She's like this hugely successful person. So she really didn't want to have to to make her mad in any way. Yeah. And have these people forgotten the point of going on celebrity big brother is to increase your career outside the house? I mean, Joey new. That that's what he was thinking. The whole time is the whole point of being here. Why you guys are getting caught up in this stupid game idea? I don't understand what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Tom and Kato or had a conversation. The diary room was having a talk with all of the houseguests based on the behavior that they had the previous day. He said he was talked to in the diary room. He spoke with Allison. And they had a conversation about like, hey, let's just remember. We're here to have fun. We're here to not make personal attacks or threats. And so we're going to we're going to be talking with everyone, and we just need to we need everyone to calm down a little bit. And it's just it's again is just super embarrassing. This even has to be done these celebrities. I made a point I made a tweet yesterday. I was thinking about it last season. Yes, we had Ross who was like mean to people behind their backs. And that's why he lost the game. And that was bad. But it wasn't anything even close to what's going on in this season. But also like last season we were talking about how like these are celebrities there media. Savvy, they know how to manage their own image. They were worried about targeting Omarosa because of the optics of it like they were they were on top of this stuff this season. They literally have to have Allison gratin or be like guys. You're PR is just not very Alison garage ner. Everyone's favourite executive producer has to be like guys seriously though, you really need to chill out right now. It's so embarrassing for them. I mean, I know that some people are thinking they should just let it full unfold. The way is it's big brother. You don't normally have these talking to for things that are. I mean, it's it's not great. But there have been things that have been worse in the big brother house that they haven't necessarily sat everyone down individually and told them about, but I think more importantly like it just shows that these group of celebrities. I mean, there's still some of them that after like ten days of being in there weren't one hundred percent sure that people. Were watching the feeds the whole time. I think they didn't realize everything was getting captured in the way that it is. And that's so shocking that many people still come into the house like not understanding the concept. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's bad. It's bad tame mar talked to Joey a little bit about low low and how she was like, you know. Tom and Kato or terrible terrible people, and they deserve everything that comes to them. But I'm starting to feel like the women are also bad people because they we really withheld that information about Kato comparing me to miss Cleo until just the right moment. They were trying to manipulate me. They're bad people to. Yeah. Which is what you were saying that the way that she brought it up in clearly trying to make taymor upset is also not great. It was not a friend consoling a friend or informing them of something that had happened. Yes. And it's you can go off on a whole thing about that. But I will not. Lee Shamar Lolo and Ricky had congress again about tame. Where's your head at what are you thinking? She says I'm leaning toward a victim. Joey because I really don't want to damage my relationship. We can't either trying to convince her otherwise it's a game. She'll understand we gotta do this. She's gonna make a deal with the guys. And she's like. I'll I'll go talk to her. And maybe we'll see this to me. I was sure the Joey was gone after this conversation is you know, I I was pretty sure about well. Okay. To be clear because like I know that you were saying that people are like why are they surprised I wasn't surprised that Joey left. I was a little more surprised that everyone went along with it. Just because every vote we've had so far or most of the votes have been, you know, one person on the outside. I think well, I guess we've we haven't had that many votes. So what can I really the thing? The thing was that like. Brent mentioned on the podcast is not actually words like yesterday morning. I was like man, I just feel like the worst of both worlds is if we get the Joey Votto off and it's told to them beforehand, and this was very clear like she was telling them that. She like she wasn't pretending that she was going to vote one way. So there is no no reason for low for no low in Ricky to to not vote Joey out along with them if they knew that was gonna vote that way so game play. I wasn't expecting them. Wow. It's true. It's a good point. So Tom and candy talked a bit as well before the fiction. Tom talked about like, hey, we need to get tame are on board with us to work against no lo and Ricky we need to get her to work with us. You need to go to her and talk to her and candies. I sure. Yeah. We're good. Yeah. I mean, she is she's kind of like telling them, I don't know if we're going to be able to get taymor, but we can try. It was fun. You guys you guys talked about it as well. The argument about the food happened as well before the vixen it was I mean, there's so many arguments. Yeah. But you know, now, you can just have that be another excuse for why Lolo votes out whoever is just because of the food argument, they weren't siding with me about the food. I had to turn on them. They sprayed me with that. They like the make grocery lists for what the food they want and Lolo was mad at tame Marin. Stunned with them. We got the vixen episode and we saw Joey leave but not before doing some stand up during his exit interview, quite a good one as people have been talking about. And I really I really to say I'm gonna miss Joey. I am he he was he was somebody like at least we had Joey to to poke fun at. And he was also like a pretty. Weirdly, positive presence in this in this weirdly negative house, despite the fact that he didn't really seem like he wanted to be there. I mean, not just Joey like the first three boots in general. You know, I was talking to my sister. And she's like well his Ryan still here. No is Jonathan. But it's no sorry. They're both gone. And they were like some of the only bits of levity in this whole situation. Yeah. I really I feel like this this whole like again this entire season. All of the bad stuff can be traced back to that. Initial twist. I don't think this house would be this way of Jonathan Bennett was still now I don't think it would be this way at all. Yeah. But twists are part of the game. Taryn you have to expect for there to be twists in for them to be bad. Okay. Awesome. Gardiner? Thanks. So Joey is gone. The feeds do come back briefly. After the episode ends. And we did see candy talking with Tamar pitching to taymor. We gotta get Natalie out Natalie. She's the one we need to get out. Because what she plans on doing is going to be end with Lolo where she obviously meets Lolo because Lolo gets into fights with everyone. So we should take out Natalie. Then then we'll be in a better spot. Yeah. Which I mean, the thing is like I know that Tom Cato are playing bad games. But since they all are I can't fault them any more than anyone else. They do have a point in that. Like if Lolo and narrowly are you feel that they have the power. And if they feel that they have Ricky it would be better to take out a power three alliance rather than going after just these two guys, then you're still going to have to deal with those three people. Yes. And really. You know, the the best move for them right now is to just let both sides Duke it out. I mean, that's what especially taymor has has power that gives her immunity this week. It's a really they should just kind of like hope that maybe Kato wins the H, and then Kato would probably take out low or Natalie for them, and then it would diminish that side a little bit. The final two alliance would be split up which gives them more opportunity to go to the final two with those people that are very disliked. It's a win win win. It's just throw the competition, especially if you feel like Kato is going to end up winning it because you know, you're safe from Cato. You just helped him save candy. He feels good about candy. He feels okay about Marv for the fact that she saved candy. So things are great as long as they can get Kato to win h h. Yeah. So what how would you rate? Thanks giving. During the H h it comes down to tame, mar or Cato. And KMart wins. No, this is not why why why it's not even like she can use her power. Another time. Yeah. I mean again, like it's not as detrimental because she wasn't going home in any scenario, but she didn't need to do. If you think about it, right? The fact that candy stayed was was a big blow to Ricky and Nola like, hey, had been running the house up until this point candy. Staying was a big blow to them candy is anti no lo and Ricky and all they need they need to do. It was going to be a battle. And if k to one they were in trouble, and if they won they would have to take out Cato, and Tom, but then taymor and candy and the rest of them would still have the ability to win the the next week, and they could go after. No, lo and Ricky or whatever it is regardless of what it is. You can't you can't let those three stay as a three because they're all taking each other to the end because they're also unlikable, and they'd never even think about taking anyone else to the end. So you need to do something about that. And their best case scenario by far the only thing that would give them total control of the house back is tame are wins the age, and then decides not to even come close to touching them. That is the only thing that will give them power back. And it's exactly what happens and like. Yeah. It's the one. It's the one thing that couldn't have happened because if literally anyone else on besides the three people on the other side had one I think that Tom Cato had done enough work with them making them thing. I mean, you hear you hear people like Dina and candy mention. Yeah. You know, it seems like they're bad people. But I don't necessarily believe everything I'm hearing or or like, you said that that no low might also be great people. So it those were the everyone they had put a lot of work into and it comes down to also they had talked about like if this whole thing had not gone down between Kato entail, mar baby they would have had more of a shy. Maybe they had because they couldn't spend like the last couple of days. They couldn't really talk to taymor because there was such bad blood there. And if they had spent a little bit more time talking to her as well, maybe things would have been different. Yes. So really, I mean in terms of winning nature wage when you really shouldn't. This is this is one of the one of the UN all sort of like really really shouldn't have won this one. This is this was a no brainer. Especially when it came down to her or Kato, and you know, Kato is not coming for you. And you know, Kato is going to break up this three person thing, they're all taking each other to the end. And there's probably the only people you can beat in the end. So to take one of them out to open up the final two possibilities would be perfect for you, especially if you don't have to do it, and you can start tend to work with them while still being safe. And even if something goes wrong, you have a power to keep yourself safe worst case, but you probably don't even have to use. It worst case. Wall. It's such a big opportunity, and it's war. I am really curious to see the diary room session of while. The competition is going on of of what the thought process was because I mean, it's not even really like survivor where sometimes people will just win things because they need something on their resume. You know? It's it just really doesn't make any sense if you think about it logically. But I think that when we get to the end and the winner of celebrity big brother two is either Ricky or Natalie, this is the moment we will point to as the turning point where things could have changed. But they did not. That's that's my guess. That's my prediction yet. Because I don't see I don't even see Lolo Natalie and Ricky turning on each other at any point just to make sure that they're in the in the finals. I don't see that happening either. Yeah. All right. So. Damar is in fact, the new HOA JR. The feeds come back and everybody is in the bedroom. The Lolo Ricky Natalie bedroom, celebrating except for Tom in Kato. They're like, yeah. We're going to get those two out. Natalie particular, just like they're doing their done. Now, we're gonna win the veto to and they're gonna be doing you. Yeah. Meanwhile, Tom Cato are not up there. So Tom and Cato are just kind of outside like TOMS. Oh, well, it would have been fun Kato if you had one, but we can still enjoy ourselves here. You know, it's still going to be a fun time. Like what people how dare he wanted to smile. His way through the next few days. Well. Yeah. We I mean, there's was we can still it's still this is still a game was still fun. We can we can have fun. It'll be great and catos kind of in the dumps like come on. We can do this. We can enjoy ourselves. It was like I can accept the taymor one is which they didn't like just celebrate in our faces like that so much. I'm curious to see what what that celebrating was at the h. And Tom also is going to say, well, okay. Here's what I think is happening. Somehow they've convinced themselves that they're the good people. And that's never happy. Tom. I wish you had done more research. This happens every season to varying degrees. And they've somehow convinced us that there's convinced themselves that we're like some kind of monsters. That we're bad people like on a personal level, and that's pretty much. Exactly. What happened? Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much pretty much. I mean, it's sad. Because like, wow, Tom Akita dog great at this game. Especially tom. He's like he wouldn't hurt a fly. He's just having fun in wanting to play murder mystery. And because of that he's a huge threatening betraying backstabbing chauvinist pig. It's really sad. Tom is he doesn't he he wants to still like do stuff? He wants to still be a part of the game. So he's like all right. Well, here's what we can do. Let's go talk to candy, and maybe we can see if candy can get into tamers ear about potentially putting up Ricky and Lolo that would be her best move. Is that her best move? I'm not even sure at this point. I just winning the h by itself was such a bad move that it's hard to see what her good move would be. I still think that at this point now that she has won the h I still think it's true that she can probably only beat Ricky Natalie and low low in the final two so to betray them. Meaning they would probably never take her to the final two is probably not the best idea in the world. So that's that's a tough one. I'm not sure what her best move. Here is really again. The best move was not even come close to winning this HOA wage, but they're going to they're gonna try it. Anyway, they're going to see if candy can can help her out. They never ended up talking to candy. This doesn't happen. The yesterday on the feeds maybe it will happen. Point today. But the nominations will be coming fairly soon. So we'll we'll have to see. Yeah. I mean, the thing is with the whole talking to candy is since candy is playing a pretty good middle game of just kind of agreeing with whoever she's talking to it's sometimes difficult to tell like which side she's really on. I do believe that she is smart enough that if KEDO had one she would have sided with them and been happy to go along with their plan to put low and Ricky up, but I don't I don't know how much point there can be even talking to her because in less, Tom Cato think they're both going to go up when they want to campaign for their individual vote like candy can agree to their face. But she doesn't actually have a whole lot of pull. And it's it's probably she's probably smart enough to say, even if she agrees with them to not necessarily act on that. I mean, I think that if candy candy is an interesting thing to think about here because candy is I think at this point the biggest jerk. Uri threat left in the house. I have candy is sitting in the file to Shan wins. No matter what the next person's probably Dina. So that's that's great. She's also like clearly one of the smartest people in the house. She's like one of the most normal people in the house. She's not engaged in any of this ridiculous behavior. And she in fact, does not condone it either. And so I'm rooting for candy. And she was even smart enough to realize Lolo can't win this game. We should take out Natalie because Natalie is going to be taking low if we take out Natalie then Lolo has to take somebody else the final two, which means that person's gonna win the game instead of Natalie. So there's a lot of good stuff here with candy. However, she still, you know, up until last week hadn't really done a whole lot in the game. And last week. Most of what she did was to like have Tom talk to her and talk to taymor and get mar kind of on her good side. I'm curious to know if she is capable of like actually stepping forward and doing something because I do think it would be tremendously in. Candies. Candies benefit if taymor turned on Ricky Lolo and Natalie that would be very very good for candy. In fact, that would be the the best possible thing for candy more. So than tame are not even winning the wage for candy would be if Tamara went against them because then they're against Tom Cato, still Tom and Kato still feel good about candy. They're still going after the remains of them and taymor is now a part of this and candy just gets to sit back and do nothing and have people hopefully think that because she did nothing. She can't win when it's actually not the case she will win. And because then candy doesn't get the board on her hands. Doesn't get you know, tar. No one call. It says that she betrays anyone, and it kind of no matter which side ends up making it to the end though. She's a lock for jury like you said, so and I don't I don't know if they would recognize that though like they wouldn't wanna take her because they would probably think, oh, no one. I mean at some point if you're if you're if you're Natalie and you're getting to the end with either Lolo Ricky or candy like there's no way you're taking candy though. Right with those options. Yes. However, Natalie was talking about like, I don't think candy win in the end. She's done nothing. What what does she doesn't? She's she's nothing. She's nothing. So I think that if if a that's why it's essential to break those three up that if you take Lolo out of the equation, maybe even take Ricky out of the equation, if you take two of them or even maybe just one of them, then it opens them up to thinking other things. So like Lolo is the obvious option for both Ricky and Natalie if you take Lolo out, then they have to take somebody else to the final two, they probably still take each other. But. You never know. And if you take two of them out, then that one person definitely has to take somebody else and that and they are currently thinking. Well, candy hasn't done anything. They probably would take candy which would be such a huge mistake. So yeah, since there's three of them, though, if they don't take one of them out now it's going to become too lopsided where they can't ever get them out with Tom and Kato they don't need to take them out right now, they can take one of them out later, and then go to the end with that one person. And they're definitely not going to win in the end. But it just becomes so much more complicated. Like, Tom Akito do have a point here, and they are telling these other people in DNA entail. Marin, candy, what is actually in their best interest? But you know, I it must also be very very difficult when you're in the game. And you're hearing all these people say terrible things about Tom Kato. And you're kind of one really they don't know the perception of the house outside they could think oh shoot. What I looked terrible would have in my reputation, if I you know, aligned with Tom Kato. That's that's also come. Mm kid, I'm realizing this really has turned into a big brother nineteen where on the updates like three fourths of what we're talking about is strategic stuff that the house. Guess we'll never even think about let alone do. I just wanted a nice fun season flippity big brother. Well, there's no Arianna here. I really feel like that was one of the keys. I don't know. Yeah. She's darkhorse last year. Yeah. Didn't she was nice? And she also playing the game. Things things happen. So. Let's see we got ta mar Natalie low and Ricky KMart says she's putting both of them up on the block, Tom and Kato. So they can't save each other. That's her plan. There's no questioning that's what she's doing. She's just worried about being vulnerable next week. 'cause she want h now she can't win the next one. Like, yeah. That's what happens when he went h on a week safe anyway, and you didn't need the Jewish. Now, you're gonna piss people off. Yeah. It's even worse because you could just guaranteed yourself two weeks of safety. Instead. But don't worry. No Liqi is here. And they're going to be like, don't worry. We got you got your back. You're good. Everyone knows how great and loyal. They are and how much they really protect the people. They work with. Yeah. Yeah. I mean in even if it looks like you might be going home. They're definitely not going to flip their votes just to make you mad on the jury. They're definitely going to still vote out candy and keep Joey mean, we've seen there are so loyal so easy. So. They also they talk about Kato is the target here before Tom so Kato is the one that will be going home. If he does not win the veto this week. So Tom will remain. That's that's something right in all this mess. Renan kato. I yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the most you can hope for is that somehow Tom wins and other h wage or veto or or something. But it's it's not looking. I mean, his his longevity. Like, that's the he's always going to be. If the other side has the power. He's always going to be put on the block with Kato Josina. They can try to get rid of one of them. But he is since he is the second one to go. I don't know though of Kato wins veto. It's going to be a really sad day for me. And my draft idol I had like both Kato and Tom on my draft. It's just. I know you never like that and mooch so. Right. So ten we get some more drama. There are some petty comments being levied here as as usual Ricky decides he's going to try and break break the mold here. He's going to go. He's going to give Tom a fist-bump. Oh, yeah. Boom, fist-bump, Tom. Thank you. And it's like, whoa. Hold on things might be. Okay. Recanting kantar. They're talking. They're like, yeah. Just gave him a fist bump and team. Was like, yeah. Good job Ricky, and like, oh, we can we can do this like, you know, what you know, what really solidify this. If we went to Tom and Kato and demanded that they apologized to the rest of the house for all of their terrible behavior. Then we would all be fine. Everyone would be happy again. That's so simple. Let's go do that. Yeah. I know. I love that. We are finally inventing house meeting and celebrity big brother two. Yeah. So Ricky Jay Marco to Tom in taymor. So Tom, are you going to apologize to all your friends for the threatening in the bullying all the terrible behavior? That's been completely unexcusable inexcusable. And you should never have done the first place and that will never really accept an apology for. But is I mean, are you going to apologize? And this is not good for sweet little happy, Tom. Who was like? Oh, man. I thought the fist-bump meant something. Tell sounds like I mean. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you feel threatened or anything like that. That was not even close to mind engine here. You know, it's a strange environment in this house and people people can misinterpret things and say Mars, not about misinterpretation. No, of course, not of course there. There's no way that she could have Hasley misinterpreted it in the world, Tom for Juna taymor. The remember he came into that room one time. And he was like, hey, can you help me figure out who has the power? And she was like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, but when you compare that to like Kato trying to apologize to low low. I mean, really, which one is worse. Worse threatening moves of the season. They have really rich. What's happening here is that they keep opening that door to the bedroom? And then stepping inside drinking that they're allowed in that room. No, you can't go on the rail, the roommates and big brother. Everyone knows you come in you pick a bed, and those are the only people who are ever allowed to go in that room. And is there room? They've never switch beds. You never even when you're h wage you don't even sleep up there. That's actually the case to tame. My HOA trim not upstairs. This is my choice. OH? Yeah. I know it never step in the door. But it's good thing. If they have a bouncer. So. So so obviously nothing productive comes of this conversation. In fact, it just it just makes everything devolved once again, it's like, you know. One o one four conflict. Resolution is. You can't force the other side to apologize and then everything's fine. That's not resolving the conflict. That's escalating the conflict because you're refusing to give in from your side to deescalate both sides have to as Tom says in this conversation. Look, I think maybe we should just agree to disagree because we clearly interpret these things differently. And but but no, that's that's not what they want. That's not what they the thing. Is that like Kay mar? And some of the people in the house, they understand that perception is reality. But the way that they look at it is only my perception is reality. No one else is. I can't look my perceptions reality. I don't agree that your perception is also your reality. Doesn't work that way. It's just one sided. Yes. It's just there's so ridiculous. And like later taymor is going to be like, yeah, they're just they're mad right now because we're not being mean. What? What was that? I don't know. I'm just. It's wrong about that statements. I'm already just looking forward to when they come out of the house, and we hear a lot of. Oh, you didn't see everything they were. So mean, we were never mean we were we were the ones getting betrayed all the time. Yeah. It's kind of heartbreaking to think of all these people who think that they're probably America's sweethearts one hundred percent. They're going to get you guys. You were not there. You did not see you guys. What you don't see on the show is all of the downtime that we have. And how you know they really were threatening to us. I'm sorry. If you didn't if you didn't see it. I mean, there was that one time. Okay. No use. There's a clip of that. No, no. I I didn't see a clip of that what you're talking about. It was another time that there is not a clip of the happened. That is where that was you guys don't even want to know, the true extent that you did not see that was that was the thing that we're complaining about is the thing. And like I understand that there are times in the feeds down and when the cameras aren't on. But even those cases we can hear things that are happening in other rooms, so. Okay. Yeah. It's like the thing is if you think about it, right? Like, we we we talk about how terrible Tom Watson as an H, which is very true. His mistake was trusting the women too much and telling them too much of the information being to open with them. That is what they are saying is the terrible thing that he did with that. He did did those girls turn away from their first alliance because they didn't include them in conversations and tell them what they were thinking you cannot win cannot win with no low. You can't. And they've ever been in charge. So. Tom is going to talk to Kato after this. He's going to tell Cato about the conversation, and he Tom's theory at this point is like, okay, I'm thinking, maybe what's going on is the taymor and Ricky are manipulating low and Natalie into thinking that we're the bullies. Somehow. I don't I don't really understand how this makes sense of wise. Tom is is not correct here in maybe a little bit with with Ricky Ricky is like the one person where I think that he does have a little bit of strategic intention behind some of this stuff where he is on the girls. And they say it's like, oh, I did you hear this thing. Tom just said, oh that must be because he's being mean. Yeah. I can't believe he said that like he is adding them on but he's not like creating this stuff. Yeah. Like like from the very first thing with with Jonathan and Ryan, and the women we know that he really sort of pushed that situation further, and we know that he just he likes to be that way. Edge to separate the women's. So that he has them bringing him forward in the game. Essentially, I think that it's not entirely strategic. I think that there is also a personal element to it. However, I think it's there's a little bit of stretch to it compared to the rest of them were there's no strategy at all to infect it's anti strategy of the rest of them are doing. So I think Tom is maybe a little bit right in that sense. In the sense that like Ricki is manipulating them a little bit. However, I would say it's more so low low and Natalie. You know, it's really it's really all of them. Just manipulating each other for personal reasons into thinking that they're the terrible people because it makes them feel good about themselves rather than anything over at least not GIC. Yeah. And I just don't like to see Tom sad. So. Then Tom is very he's very deflated after this conversation. Be like, I don't even know if this is fun. It's not fun. It's not team fun. Like, Tom who, you know? I I saw people who were like really talking about. Oh, Tom is just going to go into the death spiral? They're just going to be needed. They're just going to be silent. And just wait for their fiction as what what usually happens when there's two sides in one side wins and H H and the other side's doomed. They're just going to lie down and die. But Tom really was like, you know. Hey, let's let's still enjoy this Cato. Let's have fun. Let's try. Let's let's still give them a show here. But he's been beaten down too many times. And he's just like, oh, man. I just should we even be here. Like what is going on? Why are we the bullies in this situation? I don't understand what's happening. I it's we're being accused of things that didn't happen. If anyone's been pulling it here, it's been us. Right. Like, we've been screamed at we've been yelled at they've come at us with personal attacks. Like, we've been accused of things like, whoa. What is happening here? Kiddo. I don't understand. Yeah. I mean, it might even be best for the two of that. Like, I know you didn't think of okay, if Cato goes home, we're goes home. What can the other one do in the next week? I mean, barring winning some sort of power or they're being another type of twist. I almost feel like it. Just just go. Hang out by yourself and play some music and make some jokes and be fun. And don't talk to anyone else who's going to scream at you. And then try to win America's favorite player. There you go. You know, it's been a long time since cereal Osprey made an appearance. I know being a Wayne more of that. Because the Tom green dances to things is my favorite Twitter account ever. And I just I need more of that. A light has gone out in the world. So candy is gonna talk with Ricky and taymor candy gets into a little bit of thing here with Ricky saying, hey, I'm here because of taymor not because you wanted me out Ricky and Ricky is like what? Now, that's not necessarily true. I know we were just talking, you know, we just talk sometimes, and you don't you don't get a unanimous vote without talking three Robson's. And so we were just kind of thinking options and we've actually landed on keeping you. That's really how it how it happened. I mean, it's really, you know, we never really seriously considered effecting. You candy never can't candies. It's like, yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And fortunately, like I really wanted t mar to side fully with candy on this. But she's kind of you know. You know, getting left at a room with Ricky talking about this is not a great for for candy. Tim. I was like, oh, no, no, Ricky he wasn't really trying to get you out. No. And then she talks with with Ricky in the low and she's like oh candy. She's just she's just humiliated by the fact that I'd beat her in that competition. She's just she's being crazy. I'll I'll keep her from blowing up and Lola's like why did we keep her this? What's going to happen? She was like don't worry about it. I just didn't realize she was going to be like this. I'll I'll I'll handle her. I think I don't even know why. Like, okay, you're you're not. You're not going to throw the H two Kato you're going to take the age age. And now you're going to push away the person that you just spent all last week making up with and trying to protect tour. I mean, unless she has some plan where she thinks she's going to end with her and Ricky which is possible. But I mean, I don't think Ricky would do that. I think he he knows that he could be Lolo easier than than taymor. That's close. I think that I think that they're all I think that no Liqi are all taking each other to the end. I think they have to be broken up. And I think that they're all for as few competitions as they've won as a collective whole. I do think that you know, if it's final four, and it's three against one year really in a tough spot there. Yeah. Cash. I remember when we used to love Natalie and Lillo back in like week one. Maybe for like a day. There is definitely a lot of a lot of internet love for them initially. But. Well, you get rid of Jonathan Bennett. That's what happens. So taymor does go to candidate. Can you need to chill? You can't be doing that. You can't be doing that. In is like Ricky's pushing my buttons because smashing me playing mind games with people. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's and that's another thing. People hate is. When when people act like they saved you when you know, they didn't. And I think that's what Ricky wants is rookie wanted to. Okay. If I move I'm going to keep candy here. At least I want it to be credited towards me, some she better be, you know, I think he thought, oh she's going to be he's going to be worshiping us for having saved her. So that's that's pretty much. What's been going on? Like, I said, there's not a whole lot of strategic basically, you know, Tom and Kate are going on the block. And that's probably what we're going to see. Maybe we'll see candy, try and change your mind. But I'd honestly wouldn't even expect that to even I probably won't even try even if she does I don't think she'll change tame Mars mind. I know some people are like, hey, guts chill Maher is not that dumb. She is going to target. No liqi. I I disagree. I think that not that she's not that she would be dumb for targeting them, not targeting them. But I don't think that she's going to target them. Once you put yourself in this situation of being h and then being friendly toward Ricky and no low like. Turning on them that that would be worse case scenario for Tabor's personal came of doing all the wrong things, and then making people even more upset because of that. I mean. I think the most you could hope would be Tomek Cato, go on the block. Either one of them or candy or someone wins a veto tries to save them somehow manages to convince team or by that point to put someone for milk yet. Yes, which I mean, hey, if if someone if someone gets into shouting match with Tamar like it could happen by by the time the veto ceremony. Rolls around. I just I think I think it's locked in Tom Cato. We're going to be the NAM's, I agree and probably we're gonna see Cato leave and. Then we're going to just keep trucking on here on the season. Would you be upset? Would you be more upset if they had some sort of bring back one of the victim? People twist just to make it happier in here. Or would you like at this point? Who cares the games? The you're not having good strategy or fund in there. Anyway. So. Just says such a poor precedent here. You know, they've been out of the house. They've watched what's been going on what they what we really need is a finale where there is more of a reunion sil- thing where the people out of the house really finally get to tell the people in the house like, hey, guys, you were wrong. They didn't do anything to you. Nobody did this get never asked Joey to be an alliance with you. I mean, that's that's the whole thing where it's like a twist goddess here, and it's like well only at twist save us. It's like, no, you just keep spiralling into the worst things if if they knew how to do twists properly, maybe, but you know, they don't they don't. Double veto. Exactly, that's what I know. What will spice this season up? Does Natalie Lola win them both. I'm look normally I'm with you on the whole twist thing. But right now, I just think it's so much more important to have happy people in the house. Just think how happy Tom and keta would be if there was a. You know, they wouldn't be they wouldn't win it though. What's a contest that they they can have that. They could win. You gotta think of the perfect breaking situation. You know who can deliver pizzas behind real pizza delivery people. The best. Yeah. All right. I'll be back tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern to update you and everything that happens today on the feeds there will in fact, be an innovation tomorrow night. It will be alive veto, I believe and fiction tomorrow night. So we will be live to recap that as well. Luckily, this is going to be another shorter week. Probably not going to be a whole lot changing this week. So fact that it's a bit shorter is gonna help just another kind of like dull weekend in the big brother celebrity to house, but we could potentially get something exciting for the next eight show age, you never know. And that's what we've got for you. That's okay. I just have really important people are wondering what your thoughts on Ps are after that discussion last night. I'm a people have been people have been speculating about my my position on peace. And I I'm just I'm not sure I'm ready at this time to come out with a statement about peas, I don't want to alienate any of my. Fans or listeners. It's a very polarizing discussion. I think that you're being you know, I mean, you're being a little cowardly not picking aside here is it. I just feel like I want more information about peace before I really commit to a stance. I'm really trying to research a lot. It's a very important issue. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm gonna go and say that I am I'm signing with the peace. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Wednesday Episode Recap Jan 30 Scottie Salton

Rob Has a Podcast

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | Wednesday Episode Recap Jan 30 Scottie Salton

"Comedy from my apartment. It's rob has a podcast. Now, here's a guy who would've run at of that haunted house faster than taymor Braxton. I am rob sister deal everybody and welcome back here. We are Wednesday night here on celebrity big, brother. We've got a new HOA chin nominations to talk about on very fun episode butts. We have another amazing guest here tonight from big brother twenty please welcome to the show. We've got Scottie salted, Scott, areo good. No names. No names. No names for this alliance. You'd want to be part of team fund podcast. No names. No fun. No. Okay. Scotty, I see that. You are wearing a Batman t shirt. You campaigning for the Joey Lawrence. Batman. I should I actually I really liked him. In this episode episode for me, he's getting that underdog heat. Well, like just like talks gave in front of everybody in open spaces and everybody. He's he's he's becoming. Maybe he's gonna have have his moment here in celebrity big, brother. Of course, a man who's having his moment all winter long. Here is Taryn Armstrong Taryn. How are you? I'm great because Batman Joey is afraid of no game talk. No game talk. Is too scary for joy that man. Yeah. Even when that guy tried to scare them in the car. He's nice try nice. Try see later, buddy. Doesn't believe in alliances. Remember alliances for the except for the underdog when he tried to create except for that one except for that one. But all right. We got a lot of stuff to get to here tonight with Scotty alive. So get your questions in hashtag are HA talk about everything from the episode, and whatever you wanna ask Scotty, let us know hashtag are HP. And then we'll talk about a busy day on the live feeds also with Taryn later on in the show, but it's got very excited to have you here with us tonight, and how has been going for you outside of the big brother house everything chill. I mean, my life old right now hearts three came out. And I'm trying to figure out this like five cruise thing. That's happening. Just like I'm still trying to figure out the flight plan for that. 'cause I was told that was going to get blown out there. But now, I'm out. Well, I don't have any answers about about about what's going on there. So we'll what's the game that you that your life is on hold for March three kingdom of hearts three kingdom. Hearts kingdom hearts. What's that about? It's literally like okay with the guy with a sword. That looks like a key goes around. Disney maps and tries to save the Disney universe. Okay. Okay. Two hours. We can explain the plot to all right? We'll come back to that later on in the show hours. And so the the hive is going on a cruise allegedly. You have it right allegedly elected crew is it. So if the NFL brewing February or March Burs okay on a phone affects or like a while earlier. And he was like flight Orlando drive down there. So I have that cheaper. Wow. Okay. All right. And that's that sounds like a I do twenty minutes on on that a lotta a lot of questions, but. So so you're cruising you're gaming and anything else. My landlord sold my apartment building it selling it. So we gotta get outta there or leases ups in anyways matter, not really, okay. Okay. How's how's leave doing? Steam is doing great in the winter. When winter twenty nineteen man the winner Steve brought me negative fifty two days ago. Yeah. Cold winter of Steve, and I did something to make him that scouting what's going on with C Steve like a loss like a ton away too. Right. Oh, yeah. For Natalie to drop like sixty pounds. Wow. If he could have been like that in the house. Yeah. Most you know that stupid Perry. And then and then he does he do stand up comedy. Also. Now he's done a couple, but those appearances. Okay, mostly like he picks his motorcycles. Boy need a motorcycle. Picks in jersey fine Harley out he doesn't do Harley. Why not Harleys? Boy, if no because it's like, you're buying a Harley you're buying expensive ass by just take it. The dealership you're probably like to snobby to go to like, the your your bike fix. Okay. All right. Well, Scotty talk to us about celebrity big, brother. Are you enjoying seeing these celebrities running around your house? Yes. I will. I love their houses so much. It's so much better than ours. I love I hate that. We didn't have a workout room we at stupid app room. I hated that Afrin having that whole extra room in that hallway that it's a great place actually game because even here people coming. Down the hallway before you even like shut up. You have time to change whatever you're talking about. They should utilize that remorse. That's interesting. So for us that don't live in the house that I think it's sort of hard to get a, you know, a picture of what the geography is. So the room, that's the workout room. They used jest for those like ten minutes that they used it for the power apps. Kaelin did the puzzle? Yeah. It was in it like the year before nineteen that was the denim patient. Which is the same thing of the power up. Right. Yeah. That. Was that also where like when Paul crawled through to the phone with their such tearing wasting all that real estate. It's the twist room. It's they use it for twist. That's favorite room. Yeah. Comrades into people out. Okay. Do you have a favorite from this group? I went in Jaren hardcore Ricky, I'm going to stay team Ricky, I didn't think I would like com going into the air. And I thought I would like John a lot. But those those flip-flop. Yeah, why Williams? Because he was on the cover of NFL street. That's why that's the reason why he's so cool. And I kind of my brother for that. 'cause my brother that big big Ray Williams fan, and when he left the NFL for smoking hope gave him a hard time. Non stop hits my brother off in no end. Yeah. Though, I'm gonna I'm on the rookie. William strains now is your brother watching slept brother for Ricky Williams. Now, he's watching it. I don't know Ricky his favorite though, he kinda jumps around. He kind of wants to be crazy now have in stock favorite. All right. Well, this was a night where really dominated by one long challenge. But I think this was a big set piece for celebrity big, brother. I don't know if we're gonna get another challenge that's going to have as much production designs, guys you like the slaughterhouse night. I I'm glad we never had that. But I like the slaughterhouse. I like watching people. Get scared does any kind of time trial setting those up from there. Perspective they were doing a hold onto waiting all day like life. He's probably all day for them. The wait around from that aspect, it sucks. But watching it it's kind of cool to have the time trials, and then they all sit in a room waiting times off you get rest with depot based on their time. I liked it. Overall. Turn. I know the feeds were down the other night when they were doing this. There was a lot of talk on the feeds about what they actually went through. Did it deliver to what the expectations were? I mean, I don't know. I don't know if we usually have many expectations. I think it was fun. I think maybe lasted a little longer than it needed to on the episode. You know once seen it like six times once they put on time and money into it. Then you know, you're gonna they're gonna air it in the episode. I guess so I just I can't help. But feel like we're missing a lot of what's actually happening in the house. I feel like my get it. I get it. And like I can tell that this is a night where there's a lot of stuff that happened that doesn't end up making the show. The only thing I'll say in the show's defense here is that this is another one of these nights where this is a forty eight hour turnaround from when we had the last live show, and it is it is very difficult to get all of that other stuff, you know, those other stories segments into the show, and that's probably why they lean so much on the competition on a show like this. And maybe on Saturday where we now have two nights off. We might get a better catch up Taryn. Also that they spent almost all the time like strategy time in this episode trying to catch us up with things that happened like the first day of feeds. Too busy the entire first week with all their twists and nonsense. We're just now figuring. We're just now seeing the scene where they talk to Ricky about team fun and all of that stuff. So it's like an even that was very shortly put together. So it's like we'll get there. We'll get to our ups odes coming up next week. We'll catch up. Scott. Would you have had any problem in the haunted house? Well, I always thought that like I did that 'cause I'm really did on OT needed on nineteen. I would have like fair crawled like fast through that would've tackled. Whoever was in my way. But like if you ask JC in Tyler I talk a lot when I get scared like a lot. Yeah. No. You guys basically had in the first half of the h competition that half of the house you weren't in that that half that did that went into the dark room. Right. No. I did houseguests thing. Yeah. Yeah. So you dodge the bullet there, you that you're in the in the lucky if I would have been NAT room. Maybe I would have been in level six alliance from the go could've been I guess, so I guess could have worked out that way. Yeah. But. I thought that we were going to tire with their rumors that the people that were scaring them were actually celebrities. Not that. I thought I thought people speculating of who were the the scaring people that that were doing that concern for them, especially the person lying on the couch because they just kept like feeling that person up like right away, and it was bad priority. Yeah. Yeah. Lowell grabbed her mask and went to pull it and she was like this. Well, I thought that somebody was just going to, you know, get like checked up against the the wall trying to get the hallway like the one person that was in the hallway with Ricky Williams. Unlike Ricky Williams wants to this guy is going down. Yeah. But then we see Ricky just like. Go back. I thought I thought Batman Joey was gonna do something. I thought he was gonna check someone. Now. Now, there was a lot of talk this week. A lot of people are upset about with taymor for not competing in the HOA Charon was that as bad as you had thought perhaps earlier in the week. I don't think it was as bad as we may have thought like based on her description. She was like, yeah. I saw that. And I was like, Nope. Like, she didn't even try. It did seem like she tried a little bit. Yeah. Pay. She went in there. And then once foot in the door once the guy came in with the chainsaw. I mean, we saw her the other night. She didn't want to drop off like a three foot thing that she was hanging off of she's not going to go through crawlspace. With like on the bottom of it. Yeah. There's no way he was doing that. I was crawling. I love the list of the things that team are doesn't do. I felt it was so relatable. Halloween's Honey cloud on Caligula zone. I'm going to scare me. No, none shouldn't do caterpillars. Scotty. I mean, that seems like what caterpillars I know the problem category. But if the butterfly and you see it a memory to make you cry. Yes, that's as per one Paula caliphate. Well aware that that butterflies that they that they can be make you very emotional. Caterpillars have latent motion. Caterpillar is a baby butterfly. Yes. She's anticipating the future butterfly. Yeah. Butterfly rider died that one one day is going to keep crushing it crushing it. And then eventually, we'll be butterflies. So that's why taymor doesn't mess around with that. So, you know, really well done in terms of. I mean, I like that it was the closest thing from last season. I feel like was the space competition with it. They they ended up doing with the slow MO and dropping the slimy things they've got like one big budget movie adaptation per season. The one that festival one. But unfortunately, he came up just short. Yeah. When he told me it was a catching competition and he didn't win. It's like little Ellard at like this. Well in fairness he did lose to another football player. Who's also another another receiver the mouth catching. Yes. Yeah. Casey would practice that? I don't know if you guys, but you would practice etching near mouth daily. Crazy peparation outta house unit was to succeed. I feel like they've they've spent more time and effort on the competition sets for this season. I think part probably because celebrity season they want to impress people. Right. They have the freedom to because they've closed off that part of the backyard. So they can just spend as much time more time to work on the actual set design. I think so I mean, I thought the the rock set wall. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah. I li- joy that it was pretty pretty well set up there. Yeah. They've done a good job. So let's talk about some of the headlines from the night. Scotty Tae mar ends up getting the power of the publicist. Did that surprise you? Now at all literally might hired Twitter. Is for like Ben tire? It's all it was like, I waited. So it was over to Ricky just to see how people would react, and they're just like Reiter over over. Trader people were all about her getting this this power? They gotta give people powers. We're all about getting our nets brides all Terron how on the feeds. It has taymor talked about that she had this power. How how did we know this? I mean. It was kind of obvious based on the way she was behaving. But also, you could kind of see Joey was trending while then came trending for while Joey definitely seemed like he didn't have it came hard definitely seemed like she did have it. So that was pretty much it. There was a count on Reddit that said that Joey had received more individual hashtags with the with the re that was without without re tweets with re tweets of we we're not sure that's probably why why tame our habit. Okay. But excited to see the power in Mars hand. Scotty, it seems difficult to count like half tags. Like, I don't know exactly how they're counting that. No, I don't know how that works. I read as much of it is possible, and I could not find there was no mention of how they're counting. Or what counts is vote or anything like that. Personal room saying I feel like this name a lot. Yeah. Like, my whole time line was practically tamed taymor. Let's just give it just are just give it to her. So we end up with nominations from Tom green and he wants to flush the power app, but he's going to go with with Joey and with candy because according to Tom green. That's who his gut tells him has the power or has the the power the publicist, I agree with the logic that you should flush out the power if they're not going to use it or you. But I don't understand. I understand what you put candy. I don't feel like candy was a threat form. Well, like, yeah. I don't understand why he thinks candy got the vote Taryn Kato was completely convinced. That candy had. He's he he plays poker. He had to read. He was one hundred percent. Sure, he was willing to bet one hundred thousand dollars on it, Joey I totally see and Joey kind of is as in that America's sweetheart lane of child actor that people sort of like grew grew up with him. And so he's a household name. But candy, and I did see Andy Cohen was tree. It was a tweeting out for people to vote for her. But I was spent that that's where Tom thought the votes alternately, we're going, but taymor gets gets the vote here and Taron. I'm just surprised by this because it feels like that that was the live feed vote. But as we've seen. A lot of these big brother votes polls that the TV watching audience really dictates it, and I didn't think that necessarily that the TV audience would have fell in love with taymor like the people who are seeing her on the life feats. Yes. It was something interesting is that that count on read. It did have candy in third place. So that's surprising. Also, Tom thought that Joey had it Kato thought that candy had it. And so that's kind that kind of explains why the two of them are on the block a little bit. And so, yeah, I mean, I think basically Joey was trending I right. As soon as the episode ended Joey was trending. He was trending. He was the only one trending. He was trending above Tae. Mar wants taymor started trending for a long time. And then like late night candy started taking the lead and then into the early morning can attain Mara was a head of Joey. So basically, I think what happened was they had some, you know, casual interaction on Twitter as soon as the episode aired, and they were all for Joey, but the sort of more hardcore fan base that was waiting for the chew h feeds to return were continuing to tweet all night long for mar. And that kind of that kind of did it because it was such a. Short period that that was that sold it, and it's interesting that the mechanism that they use to count the votes in that vote on Twitter as opposed to vote on CBS dot com or with the CBS app. Like you had to do with the power. I think that that probably changes the result, if they change the mechanism by which people are voting, and I think that if you're only allowed to vote once it probably changes as well because I would change it a lot. I think that all of that all of those Joey numbers would have been locked in. And I don't think it would have been able to be overturned Scotty, what is it like being in the house when there is some sort of a power that you know, that the audience is voting on and when you're trying to figure out who has it. And what does it mean, depending on who has it? It really to me. It never really matter until other people like presented to you. I think this person has the power. This should be a reason why we should either work with them or go against them. And I'll just like I don't think that should that's has nothing to actually do with lied wanna go after somebody. I'd wanna go after somebody. They're either rettigny or because they're going to be in a competition later on though me personally it never mattered. But it like ads the paranoia the house, which were totally sing. What about in terms of how you're feeling like you're being received on the show because I really feel that that's something that would. You can make yourself go crazy thinking about like what is the outside audience reacting to what's happening in the house. Yeah. Rick really hard when she went into trending. Yes. For me. Like, I never really cared too much about what America's thinking except for when I wanted to I one that third Apso bag. I thought for sure I was gonna go. But the I care about. But once you know that like America's influence is actually in the game. If our vote you do kinda change what you're doing. And you can get more aggressive with your game. Played like try to be like what I'm trying. Help me out here mobile. Get more aggressive. Okay. All right. Well, we saw Tom talking about this alliance that he wanted to put together. And this is Tara how how far back is this stuff that we're that? We're seeing tonight too. I think that particular scene where they talked about team fun. Jonathan was still in the house at that time. Yeah. So we're mixing and matching a little bit in terms of where we are. But Tom Kato they're working together. We've seen them on the show working with Natalie eve Marie and with low low Jones, but now they're talking about bringing in Ricky Williams for this potential team fund. And so now that is Kato the. HOA twin this conversation is happening Taryn. I I think I think Ryan might be. This is this is to H O H is ago. Basically what they need to do is set up that there is a contentious relationship between Ricky and Tom the better way of setting that up would have been to show the argument that they had where Ricky calls, Tom prick, and and they get into a little bit of a tiff here. But. But instead they just kind of through this together. Like, hey, they're kind of aligned but also not. And there you go. Yeah. I wonder if maybe they don't want it make anybody come off particularly rough in the I wonder if to some degree if they're trying to protect the celebrities a little bit more Taryn in the edits. Do you think is that is that a factor? I guess it's possible. I guess they didn't really go too hard on anybody last season either. I would say they're being pretty hard on low low, but they're really just showing her. So I guess you can't really play. What did what did they show? You thought was so bad. I. The I mean, the whole thing of her crying about Ryan. And how like oh, Ryan, I just I love you so much. I just if you hadn't just forced me to betray you in the way that you did. I wouldn't be so sad. It's all your that. I stepped the back. Yeah. I didn't that didn't jump out to me is being too rough on Lola. What did you think? Scotty, the whole Ryan sequence is so dumb. I don. There's no reason to cry literally flip them off on the memory wall training, America. Yeah. She like a traitor with everybody all the prime. I also didn't like when they put Ryan Kato is like Olympic champion. You're on the block Tokyo Tokyo. Hated that for then tires Ryan going stupid that was state. Awesome state mistake for for Tom for Kato. Yeah. Because now they have an and a veto combined. And now they're targeting Ricky because I think he's a competitive player. Well, if you bought them all these people out in the beginning, you're you're next. No, I don't see that. Yeah. I get it in in a regular season. But isn't it is it possible that this could work in a celebrity season? Where players aren't as sharp. Oh, yeah. Totally. I mean, KENNY'S just sitting back relaxing, Joey was sitting back relaxing for the longest time evening. Believe in alliance that one point now he's starting to play as people kind of catch up though, they kind of seem like they're learning the game a little bit quicker than they did last year. So I think that this group will learn quicker and be like, wait. We should get rid of that. We did see some alliance talk a going on. We saw Joey as you mentioned trying to round up the bottom feeders. The people who were seemingly not in the four person alliance and say like, hey, maybe we could get something going. But I thought it was so funny when taymor was talking about like, you think that we that this group this group of the the losers is going to be able to beat the makeshift superhero lions. Although I'm sure that must have really cut Joey Taryn when he watches this episode to see who's not, including the superhero lines. He's not a makeshift superhero soup rooted in the Justice league. Immediately doesn't want to just. Yeah. He's a loner and outsider. Yeah. The city needs. So I thought that the conversation that Tom and candy had with so interesting. Where candy I thought asked I think one of the most interesting questions that you can ask on this show and Scotty candy ass. Tom. So are you in an alliance with everybody else? Just straight up to Beijing area. He's like. Heart. You are are you talking? What is the right answer to that question? I I would be like, yeah. Yeah. I am. You were in all the alliance as you. You literally could have answered the question are you into lines of everybody else? Me. I don't think I was in line everybody else. I was in. No one's alive. Well, I guess I guess both things are true that but yet a lot of relationships in the house relationships yet relationship and aired in the game. No. Some some of the matter. They got they got me far enough. I don't even wanna please into my either we want this. The people want to think people want to hear your stories. I literally during clone. I thought I was in the perfect spot. Like, okay. Hey, we spent the last two weeks putting Cuyler Angelo in case win this who's gonna go on the block Hyler. Angela casey. Then one of them's gonna go and they're gonna get mad. One of them's going gonna go after Halian fast. And I'm going to sit here until final five, and then I have to start winning going ahead. Yeah. I was mugging hockey in that eight week meeting deserve to go for that. I should have blown up. Yeah. Look. You know, it's it's, you know, the past is the past Scotty that it was a great run. Love winds. Love wind love wind. That's that's right. Right. You get that t shirt I heard I don't have it yet. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to call myself a copy. All right. We'll we'll see if we same color or is Ricky Williams yellow. Oh, I think that's what Terron. I have. Also. Right taryn. I believe so. Yeah. Holy cow that yellow or it's a popular one of the most popular colors for the aura. Now, a fact you'll like my or is not as important. Yeah. I don't know how many different. I I don't know if it's if that's like if there's only like four different colors. I don't know maybe. People who have yellow or as well. Hey, Mark, a though what the lemon law. Yes. That's that's right. Good memory. Yeah. So that's a little it's a little, and I believe that Melissa Melissa has only. So we're on top of this list, given bigger than heavy yellow aura. Yellow aura. We maybe somebody put together the info graphic of all the different people that that we've nailed down their colors of aura. Yeah. That'd be. It'd be really good. Yes. Speaking of Caitlyn I was thinking of her when Kato kaylin was asked to name the alliance and Kato kaylin came up with this name name team almost stay instead of saying not mistake. I think that'd say team we want stay. Yeah. Do you was that a reference to your season? Scotty with the talking about NAMA stay I the only way to reference to reference to ban alliance name. That's awful after that was we're gonna stay or something like that. All fun awful name about pay awful name level. Six awful news team fun. No, do bad nad may like what if it was the team unicorn or whatever from AP new. Unicorn is objectively worse than. Yeah. I let him tell him but Miley problem with team fund is that it's already been used on the amazing race. And spoiler alert. It's going to be used in the future in the amazing race still. Might be I feel like he had it with honesty where it's like you can kind of like, I'm a stay as opposed to anybody went from day to we gonna st-. We we what did he what was name team. Almost stay missing number. Stay. I think would say team we once they we we want stay. I think this way he talks though, like he will say something like think that you're gripping onto except for everyone in the house was like, yeah. That's great. And then he is misinterpreting map. Like, yeah. I got him. This is funny. He just keeps going and gets worse and worse as he goes. Almost make sense. And then it's just like just completely gone. This got are you enjoying your Kato kaylin experience? For the most part. Yes. A lot of people are saying they'll like watch life, even like Scotties back in the house. Like, I don't think I love that much like him. He's like pretty got one hair and glasses. I guess. I think it net. Like crazy, everyone saying Kato, what was with his sunglasses in the dire room tonight Taryn. Look the lights are very bright. They need sunglasses event. It is a couple of good sunglasses this year taste good. The good sunglasses. He's going in there with his bean is like clear glass is. Yeah. Season sunglasses seasons glasses. So. But Ricky Williams flat out says no no name to team fun. Scotty is that a major mishandle? Or is that, you know, are there some advantages to not having an alliance name because it makes it harder to figure out. I think I like it 'cause it's hilarious. But from the game perspective now, he probably should I disagreed with. Whatever the hell they were saying, but he wasn't like invest he made it sound like he wasn't invested in it. So we should have been like sure whenever a great name. I love it. No. I'm Ricky Williams are no problems here. I love I love your name. Let's just go on our day. Turn I'd like to see Ricky Williams and Nick Wilson get into a debate about the the the the usefulness of an alliance name. Yeah. Ricky's one weakness in the game. And it's a big one. Is that like he just he he has very little patience. And he's just like his opinion is no no name. We're not going to him. That's just that's just Ricky in nutshell is he anti all alliance names. Or is he just anti that particular alliance name that was unclear what he he he doesn't like Tom very much. And so I think he just didn't want to be like a socio like in the alliance with genuine response. He did later. Go to Tom should be like, oh, hey, what's the what's the lines name team fun? Yeah. I'm all about teams teen fun five. Yeah. Let's go. All right. We're we're we're all about it now because he realized it was mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He gets fussy. Like what he said say can I say what he said, though, when racer the yard would you go? Go ahead if it was on the show site. Yeah. He was like man people are being bitch made. He says a lot it. What is that word? He's people are being a bitch made. Yes, what does that? What does that mean? Like candy candy on the block, and she was complaining that you would on the block. It's part of the game. You're being bitch made which is his point blank for him. He's just so funny to me that he's hot like that. But it's basically like they're too much in their most ending like the nicest way to say it. Bitch made the nicest way to say it. No now, the nice way to fade is you're too much in your mode too much in your too much narrate if the Ricky to say that it's that Ricky Williams was like really zen and deep he is. He is he's very zen and DP just he. It's like, it's a deep pool of zennis. But pisces. Yeah. Such vises. I think it's affected by the tides. Maybe and so he goes from very deep to very shallow very quickly because he has such little is such a short fuse that every once in a while a bomb goes off and all the water goes from the pool, and it's not deep anymore. South. I want to go back to the competition tonight. Scotty Kato kaylin seemed like way too excited to be the host of slaughterhouse competition. Yeah. You really pumped up. We're talking to pumped up when he Paul Ryan on up while he gets pumped up for literally. No good reason, especially slaughter made should be like scary horror. So just be like, okay. I guess he may like stuff like that. Like you said excited when he watches like a horror. What he said. Loves loves horror films. Also. Like Ben excited when he watches them. Like when someone gets is. He like, yes, yes. I love it lets people keep dying that how he watches a horn. I don't know what you would think you would think that he would have been traumatized by everything he's been through. But I don't know. But. And that little known fact Kato kaylin actually has a role in my friend, mayday low budget horror movie and Kato kaylin is in it. You check it out. It's called pan man and Kato kaylin pan with the thirty second pitch so pan man is a demon who takes over people's bodies. And then wears like a giant. It's it's really more of like a giant spaghetti pot over his head. And then kills people with a pan. And I actually have a small part in that film as well. Pay a man. So I actually if you wanna do six degrees of Kevin bacon. You can get Kato kaylin. I are in the same film. Wow. When are you going to be on celebrity big brother, and the they show a clip of you on pan, man. Opening. Yes, I get. I get killed in a pan, man. Spoiler alert. Okay. Well. Yes. I I don't have a big part Taryn. I don't have a big the big parks LA. Mike white make fun of my role in pan man at some point down the road pan. Man, you and okay. Okay. Is there anybody that is getting on your nerves in celebrity big brother house? Scotty. Lo-lose like spam ocean. It's like calling yourself. There's no reason like Natalie is like in the perfect spy think as right now she's going to win because lows blowing up around air for every which reason common Kato are winning competitions. And then getting rid of the people, I think are competitions brats. So like, they're all gonna get kicked off before. She doesn't that aligns. I think she's the but Lolo late annoys me that Dino looks more like Lizzie low than Lucy, low Gina looks more like Lindsay Lohan than Lindsay Lohan looks like. How I feel. I look at her. When when I think what looks like he Email. That's why. I think below him looks are you saying that potentially you see a scenario? Scotty, where Lindsay Lohan might have switched bodies with her mom. Yes. Last friday. You think you think that we've gone full? Freaky friday. Correct. Yes. I think we've pretty Friday on BBC. Hey, I'm definitely not Dina low ham. It's me Lindsey great nation Jonathan it's me. Remember? Gave away by telling everyone to put me on the block. At the C lock the go. Sad. No, I was kind of happy that needs like wasted the money on that. All I think they got it for free. I think the company is like, hey, do you want the opportunity to have Ryan locked e in one of your endless pools. And like, you better believe it. It's like, okay. Well, just give us a five thousand dollars an episode and then put the pool in the backyard that would be Palmer. But but yes, probably what happened. I like I like to be optimistic though and think they've paid for it. Yeah. Yeah. So lock the off off to Tokyo to get ready. Would you have liked that Scott have the endless pool in the backyard? Kinda I don't know how to swim. Really? So I probably would learn how to win things that they have much rather. Like far the thing that they have that would want enlist will. Pour. The bottom analyst like a regular regular, dining room table have been nice. Instead of those benches. Regular couches instead of that circular thing the weight room, the weight was number one thing out did they have did they have the UFO hat. We did not have the UFO hat. No one was going around shooting things or tweeting or they can tweet from inside the house yet Taryn. I didn't know that. This was a thing. Could you explain ipad? Because I felt that they sort of just had that in the episode everybody. Tweeden you tweeden. You tweeting. Yeah. So this this happened last season as well. They're given a tablet where they're allowed to read it last celebrity big, brother. Yes. Let big brother there to right up tweets. And then the producers will copy them over to the Twitter account and post them post the tweets for them, not all of the tweets go through they get filtered. They see nothing in response. It's not connected to anything. Okay. So why haven't I seen any of these tweets we'll have to be following CBS? Big, bro. Other. No, it's it's it's the celebrities individual accounts. Oh, okay. Well, following the conquest whenever the picture of him with it too. So I just like hyp- in at a picture of then they added picture of him. I think they like, Tom. They're trying to go the extra mile with his tweet snaking guy. Yeah. Okay. I why why not just have them from one account? Why do I have to follow eleven different accounts Taryn because I think I think part of it is that this legs are like walking leave my social media. Let the personal accounts re tweet the H O H or the big brother account, these people the reason they're on here is for exposure. So they're hoping that they'll get people to follow their own accounts by tweeting. And you know, that's the exposure. That are getting has anybody tweeted anything interesting is there like there's no way to see like the history of what was tweeted, right? We can just go to Tom Green's Twitter. He's done it. Tom to have not having followed. Any of these celebrities on Twitter, yet Tom's tweets are, basically, the only ones I've seen from the fans that are like retweeting them. So I assume that all the other ones are super boring. Okay. Boy, it'd be good. If we could get somebody who knew about the podcast, and they could write in questions from the house. I answer that would be good. Scotty, would you? What would you have tweeted if you were had access to that I pad in the house? I probably a lot of like swear words. Might not have gotten through most of my stuff probably wouldn't gotten through. I know. 'cause like I feel like most people would dislike tweets shout, outs and stuff. And I personally hate shoutouts hate when people speeches are shot out when they're voting and they shout out. I hate shout outs. So mine would have been random things have happened in the house, and I would have been frustrated in weeded about my free. No, well, I do remember that you said that in the house too. I remember hearing that. Yes. Scotty is Scotty hates shout outs. And when we we are one hundred percent on board with that. Yeah. Hate shadows. Eight when people leave my swing the door super open and everyone goes behind their waiting. Yes. In my head. They brother, it's a social experiment, and then the game drives the social experiment. Yes. Most people at the opposite. They think it's a game in the social aspect of part of the game. I've used the off. So you feel like this an experiment. That's that's televised. Correct. And I think the game. Is what drives like people's wants us up. See how they would act certain circumstance. Yes, I believe that that our own bread Wogaman is a very big fan of that keeping the door closed did not like it. When people would try to keep the door open. So people could see the audience. I hate it. I'm offending time. I tried to pull it, but I think someone ran over and caught it opened it again. But you're I can understand more as a fan not wanting to see what's going on. But you did you. It was like from the perspective of that. This is not right or I don't want people to sort of get an advantage by seeing what's going on outside. No. It was more of like seeing that there are so real people like could be like a refresher for your head. Like, oh, this is a game. I don't be my feeling so much. I want people to like Stu in it. And then the more they do in it the more they're likely to lose themselves. Yeah. And with a curiosity where people trying to see anything in particular like the crowd reaction. No most people just like they want people to see him exposure. Like, oh, look at me on the guy in like they'll stand in front of the door. I hate it. I hate it that it's not what we're here for sky. What was your big brother casting story? How did you? How did you end up on the show? Well, originally, I tried out for eighteenth. My sister, actually, I started watching the show he started. I I came down with season seven I started watch. And this is awesome. George Zack to the guy got into a few like shaved his air undergoing Slav the whole summer like this guy's a bad ass. And I watched recipe is really not a bad at that point. I got sold in the bag that he was a bad ass. So then eighteen Imron like we go to open cast. So like, okay. So I went the opencast she didn't go. He bailed man, I made it easily far that time. And I was like this is this is gettable I can get this. So that's summer started like working out a lot with the cross it started doing improv acting. It's all gonna help me during the interviews. I got a call for OT. I kinda was like I wasn't too. Like sure I wanted to go on each. So I kinda like they interest and then right before ninety I stood up my ankle. And I couldn't go on that day at the. Now, the crap. So then I spent the whole year healing, going classes and then right offer twenty and I got okay. And did you was it. Like, you feel like that? It was a done deal from like because you knew you had gotten close the previous time. I feel like it was done deal until. Probably really early June. I feel like the last like two to three weeks out pretty much done in yet. Did you change something that you did? Or you just felt like that you've been through the process a couple of times that they knew you at that point. I don't feel like I change anything. I did. I would say that I focused a little less. I'm like, my personality attributes and focus more on like the talking of the conversation. Like, I didn't like I never talked about anything that was like really far in my past unless they specifically ask only ever talked about things that happened within the last hour, and I kept it very common. That was that was good. So you like just talking about what just happened is opposed to because I like talking about your your back story. I feel like that. That's probably I would tell people that. That's what they should do. Well, comed- that felt really pitchy. And I was like, okay. If I'm just like, this is who I am. That's what I've been doing the last twenty years of my life dealt really hit you to me. I was like I feel like it's stronger show of social skills by talk about literally what's happening in my life right now. And that's what I tried to do for the most part. All right want to get questions in for Scotty, hashtag are AJ Taryn any. Questions that you have for Scotty. I don't think. So. Okay. All right. Tell tells them what's. So what's going on with with with the cruise? It's a if it's a hive cruise. What's what's the problem? I feel like the that. They should have the like the first part of the hype cruises get the high, right? Yeah. We'll do like reach out to us from the go, and like we were all super suspicious by because this guy like it didn't seem like he was going to be like, no, we're gonna airfare your cabin everything will be fine. And we hear from this guy from forever. It's not happening. And we heard from the game. He was like are you guys still town? You're like, yeah. We were down back in October. When you asked has initially what what was the chain? And then I guess it ended up recently getting past some other guy. Who was like? Yeah. I didn't realize guy had done, no work. So it's like the I like the agencies like passing it around. No, you don't know apparently as of right now or are cabins are being paid for now. Our travels. Like that would have been fine in October stick it would've been like forty bucks Matt's. Well, how a hive crews in there, and they're not getting the high out there. No idea. I think we're just like an accessory to the cruise. It's only crews like four us or accessory of the cruise. Just going on the cruise. It's being marketed as come cruise with the hive it really hasn't been marketed at all. Okay. All right and how and how was festive Ursus swaggie, see basketball. When is expected. I always thought so have us knowing they were talking the house like nonstop who win this game. And every time you realize like your college football player. I get that. Even college basketball player what he went to school to do. And like he would always say like professor so much bigger sweaty within an inch effects in height. He's not that much bigger. He's a little bit Iger. But he's not like Paula court game. Like that doesn't really matter. I don't know what the logistics of the best ballgame experience for religious of ballgame that like they can be said why people think that? It seemed like that swaggie shirts spotted a couple points here. Then that would have been an insult effects. There's no way. Okay. What have been so insulted by that? Taryn? Do you know what what questions Melissa wants you to ask? I was just trying to that. I see the Chad at Melissa Melissa is in the chat room, and she seems angry that you're not asking her Scotty questions. All right. So this is what Melissa Rowe. She said why did he decide that? He didn't want to listen to what the other jurors were telling him in the jury house when he returned. Okay. So the question is could at that point Bailey and rockstar would have been like, oh after I learn Angela, I guess question. I I I'm not she'd probably have to clarify. I because I was reading it. And I was I didn't really understand. 'cause I can't actually do anything. I wouldn't that away. If I don't win that like as a person just got back in the house, so anything I can do is like kind of talk the current and be like, hey, I know easy to get rid of me. But don't. Outwitting that HOA in this five I was in. I was returning to an alliance. I was returning to like nothing. So I mean, unless I had the power to leverage like do something then there's not a whole lot. I okay. So there was one before as well. What was his thinking behind wanting to work with Tyler Angelo? When he got back into the house started work with Tyler and target Angela Neo back into that. That skyler was coming back. I don't think I ever would targeted. Angela because I actually wanted to keep Angela is long if I could because one he like when she was HOA she put me up. Yeah. But like she was able to be away from the after Bailey. So I never thought would be the one that like come after me, and I knew based on the people I talked with Jerry, I could crush on file to. I mean, if I would've won that h literally nobody was your debt for maybe Angela in Sam sandwiched in the only the only two probably would have been safe by one that, you know, I don't feel like I have a good sense of like how the big brother jury goes like how how what percentage of the conversation at the jury house is about what's going on in the game sort of rehashing stuff from the game. It really depends talking when I was with Angela and rockstar or with with Angela rockstar in Bailey, not a lot when I was with fast best loved gang like at this point. Now, he was just like, okay. This is what I think happened is rising people went wrong through. I think I'm Ron and he was all about the game. I did not want to talk gave a jury. No matter. What he said in the? Yeah. No, I agree. It's what I so. I mean, it different Persian like breath got in the house. I almost never talk it. Right. Like he like immediately told me about level six like the name. And we're like, okay. It's not really a surprise. And then after that whole lot of gate Bessieres. The only one was like, yeah. Let's talk gate everyone else. I was just like, okay. Let's just relax the jury. Now, do they have like are you not supposed to talk game? Or is it just you're just living together, you can talk with everyone talk. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. For what I've heard from previous juries is that you're kind of not supposed to talk a whole lot a whole lot of game. And there are some handlers there that are kind of like with you. But you can still kind of talk game. So it's kind of like a kind of thing, and I'll tell you that on survivor that you're I believe it's it's frowned upon. You're not supposed to you're not supposed to talk about game. But I was on a survivor jury before they had like Ponderosa videos of it seems like they encourage them to talk about the game. So it's a little confusing. Unrealistic literally that has been our lives for the last two months. And that's how we all know each other. I bet that'd be different unrealistic expectation there is a question from stacked in the chat. Once do you regret not voting for Tyler after watching your season? No. I don't regret that. I see on by might choice because et the jury roundtable we were at at around for a long time. I went to bat for Tyler at that you around Dale and then. A lot of other people are like no, Casey Kasem pace, but going in. I was like, okay. If power is like, the master manipulator that I think that he is he's gotta have bomb, speak, his speech off point Casey's speech. We know case you gonna have you know, that going. He's not a great talker. We just let she won competitions every week last like five or six weeks. So like that that her resume. We know we can't hide that Tyler's game was theoretically all behind the shades like behind curtains, and we are the know about it. And then he brought up his speech to have been great and his feet. Saw. I've told this so many gated like his. Stuff. Like, yeah. I know man. So no. And like he also apparently didn't wanna pick between Casey Angela like that was a heart decision. Big brother, packing Willie. He has the opportunity to case easy mosque there. And he doesn't. So when you guys are sitting there, you know, we talk a lot about this from the outside in terms of like is is there enough time for you guys to be able to make a decision in the moment. Or is there not enough time for people to say what they have to say. Do you feel like that? You guys have an adequate amount of time to be able to ask the questions that you need to ask in that jury questioning segment. I felt there with enough time for us questioning them. Yeah. I would say that. There wasn't enough time to them that talk. But I would say based on what I was hearing are the two of them neither of them like. Goal like. Improvising. So. As much as I would like them to have more speech time. I don't think that those two particular were. Yep. We're ready. What was it that you wanted to hear Tyler say that he didn't say? He can actually illustrate any is game. His speech was literally a talk about how much he loved Casey everybody was like I've actually have Sam. And I lied to Bailey about Scotty knows your whole game. Doing those things. When he supposed to Nassar manipulator ended his mostly talked about it. His goodbye message to me when he was like a headset in power at the whole time. Nobody knew tell your friends came off. So condescending, it's like you can explain that without sounding kinda sending and he was like, I know I didn't even sound kind of ending. But that's how it came off. So he could have like first of all he could have been like, okay. This is what I did from the start of the game. I had this alliance. Because what because he was actually he got level say how my understanding of it. I use this alliance. And then from there, I like us Caitlyn. And then from here my white about you and then sampler about the power for like actually painted out each week by week. And this is what I did week week. I was behind the shadows the entire time running the game. It would have been perfect. But instead he just kinda like blurt it out like two two people pissed off. And was like I love everybody. Would you say that like that? Basically, you weren't you weren't sure that he had played the game that he that people were claiming that he had. And so the fact that he hadn't he wasn't able to elucidate kind of pointed to the fact that like, maybe he he wasn't as good as as some people are saying, I believe that if you are as good as you are are as good as other people are saying, you are you should be able to explain that. You eat our mind moves I came up with it in my head. This was my plan. This is how I did it at batch up. Other people are saying it's not their job for me to pick who I wanna win. It's not the other juries members job to decide why want to win it their job. Like like, this is why I deserve a win and one of them in my in my opinion, which is Tyler was in the spot where he was like I have to prove to you. What I did where with Casey it was like we know that he's not gonna be able to talk to us. But we her game is out in the open. It's winning competitions. It's staying back and quiet. It's sitting in the corner like being a grown woman hiding in the corner that that was her. We know that we see it. Do you feel like if the approach was instead of like, hey, you know, I was I was loyal. And I was I was nice guy as opposed to like, hey, I I yes, I lied to all you guys. But I had to because you guys are so good. But I, but I but I played everybody here throughout the whole season. And I'm the reason why you're sitting there. That's more of the kind of thing that would have gotten your vote. Yeah. You would have painted it out yet. I also fell Casey was more loyal to him than he would have been her. Well, didn't get rid of. Choice. We're final to our loyalty to each other's all that netters than I feel like that the one that's more loyal like went feel. I Casey was more loyal than piler. Was he had a bunch of final twos? And and she was the one that he picked whereas opposed to that, you know, she had a final to Greg. Now, tell me to bring this back to celebrity brother. Actually, it's interesting because big brother twenty is one of the few seasons that Tom watched in preparation for coming on the show, and he's been talking about it on the feeds talking about how Tyler lost because he lied to everybody and how you can't lie to people in this game and expect to win in the end. And I do feel like this is part of the current culture where we saw, you know, we started a Paul lose to Josh than we saw a Ross news Morita. And then Tyler losing to Casey. I do think the people that are new to the show that have only watched recent seasons. They do have this kind of metality that is like, hey, you know, I don't think we can play a game where we're lying, and that kind of I think is why in that moment. When candy is questioning, Tom. He's like can't can't make lie right now. But I also don't want to tell you the truth. And I think all a lot of the players in this house are playing in that way. And it's interesting to watch because they're all very scared to like just. Outright lie. And I think that it also is part of what is influencing low low to try and like rewrite history to be like, it's not my fault that I it's it's other people's faults that I betrayed people. And it's it's just it's very ingrained in this season in particular. Which is I think is something interesting to look at. I think as long as you can explain the li- like this is why this is the purpose of it that I think it's fine. But besides that, I agree. I think a lot of people in recent seasons are going to be more more scared play that way. Okay. Let's bring in some of the questions that we have for Scotty. Then we'll talk about some of the stuff from the feeds Scott saint-pierre has pulled his onto the pan Mannheim db and interestingly enough from the pan man, I am db Kato kaylin is listed as new pan man, robs venos- old pan, man. So yeah, the little bit of the passing of the baton from myself to Cato, Cato Calin. Nickname old. How was the process of getting ice levity brother, three, rob? Well, we'll work. We'll work on that. Don't really love that. I'm the old pan, man. Kato kaylin is the new hotness. But old in busted Kieran says should Tom target one of the girls since the girls have the numerical advantage. Taryn? Do you feel like that is would a woman be better target for Tom green? Yes. And Tom green would point out that you should call them women not girls did that on the feeds. So. Tom green is in a precarious position here. He's in this alliance with low low and Natalie it's a four personal lines. But they also have Ricky, and that's a five personal lines. And he kind of correctly recognizes that no look no low that no low has Ricky on their side. The Ricky doesn't like him very much. And so if it gets to five then he might be in a little bit of trouble because it'll be three versus two, and he really can't trust Ricky because he feels like well, maybe Ricky might even come after us before the final five who knows Ricky could do anything. So he is worried about that. Whether he are not he should target the women in particular right now that would probably be a little bit of a too soon. Kind of move. I feel like the right move. If he is going to cannibalize zone lines would be to go to Ricky. I tried to explain it to the women because I think that you can maybe get away with that. A little bit. So I would I would advise against targeting the women straight up especially because they are also big targets to the rest of the house. So things to think about their Tom. I I would I would say no targeting the women. Also, targeting Ricky, potentially the way he went about it. But we'll see how it goes will say more more on that story to come. Then Gwen says am I the only one that thinks low low is super dull? Well, I know tear Tarran field. Dull isn't your problem with low low? Right. She's not dull enough. She should get more. Dull? Just a little more honest. I think with herself I think that would work for her with the jury Scotti any strong feelings on Lolo. I agree that like he's spending all kinds of crap all the time. Like, I think he doesn't realize that we're watching all the time in like he gets have narrative. This is a question from the worst, David. Are you jealous? I didn't give you a deck of cards in a ukulele without help pass the time. Scotty. The deck of cards would have been cool ukulele. I don't know how to play people would have hated me. Learn. Okay. Teton Jones Scotty the slaughterhouse. Look like it could have been built in the same place as the hacker comp. Where was that? How did you get there? I don't know. I mean, well, the slaughterhouse was clearly in the in the backyard, right? I have no clue what this line has is probably like that thing. Like at the beginning season. One second responding on pedestal on the we get like downloaded in something else. Yeah. People know what's going on there? Just sitting on couches, and they appeared new places. Okay. Is there is there anything you can tell us about the hacker competition that what what was going on there? I feel one volt though stupid freaking things going on. With those things. Oh, my second one in particular. I hated one that one. But not literally it's just. Famous same as usual. We're gonna start a competition. It raised started competition. And then you just wait Reverend. Then next thing, you know, you're starting to confident where was it in relation to the house? I don't know if I can say that. All right. Well, then then then that helps. Okay. All right. Let me on the question. And then give you guys Felipe is Scottie who's your favorite BB celeb- house gift the season? And who do you predict it's going to be the winner? Think right now he was going to be the winner and Ricky still my favorites. Okay. All right. That's good picks. Melissa says Scotty, Tom Green's nomination makes sense to you. I understand he's going after Joey like, he's his his reasoning. I agree that he's go people the power that's in the easy way to guide him. Like the mad at me. It's you guys have an unfair advantage unfair advantage. So I need to try to take that out. I agree with that logic can hits that logic. You I think he's gonna pitch it that way. No, I think he's going to have a million explanations of paranoid and it slowly unravel. But as long as he doesn't like I think it's a mistake for him to go after Ricky or the girls. Just because like those I think everybody else will target them first before Kato and Tom. They have four competitions the two of them. It's so easy for someone to say that like, you know, what you're right you go after them. He's got to keep the bigger targets in front of them. What we were hoping for was that you would say. Doesn't make it doesn't make sense. And see does it make sense? All the time. And that have. Yeah, we keep it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Eight the sound of my own voice so much. I've got. TTF n not for now. Okay. Meghan says it seems like big brother contestants a big brother gives the plenty of hinted advice prior than doing the comp like the H one tonight like going to across pace jump out a window. What are your thoughts on that? Are they giving too much away in the clue? It didn't seem like the house gets picked up on it. No. I don't think this take on it like unless you're really thinking about it because like for the power to their out of sticky situation like that has nothing to do with with the actual our. I don't think it's money. I don't think like in their your brain is folks on so many things I don't think the phrasing of like a hint is going to be that big of a deal. I just have to do a quick shot out for a lot of the people on Twitter that asks that I play at some point tonight. That's a that's a callback. So there's a old song that we used to play on the podcast. A lot though is from Baylor that was Baylor Wilson with a sticky situation. One of the biggest hits of twenty fourteen ten Attaran says what's called her the polar vortex or fats as gameplay come on tender Taryn stop with the cheap shots. Yeah. Obviously. It's case gameplay. Yeah. Call in the polar vortex. Let's see. Oh, julius. How is Scotty handling all of these temperatures in Chicago, literally I woke up and like the inside of the windows have like frost on. Yeah. Horrible over here. Scottie, anybody that you think that could be a bitter juror in these slumping brother cast, we saw that it was in the celebrity big brother a lot of jurors were not happy with Ross Mathews. I think if anyone at any point becomes a better, I think low is probably the. Okay. I think you'd be the one who likes nap emotionally and be like, no, this is why like my feelings are important stuff like that. Okay. And one more question. We'll talk about the feeds does slaughterhouse rank in the top five best competitions of all time. I loved I still love the macgyver one as well. Yes. Of course, going back to big brother eighteen where Natalie said that was one of her favourite show. Macgyver. She was gonna be watching it all all the time. So all right to this day room, still she's I and James too. I think as well. All right. So Tara with a top-five baby for you. I I wouldn't say Tom five myself this fun. It was fun. Okay. All right. So Scotty, we're going to touch on a busy day on the live feeds, of course. Terrible covered in full tomorrow morning on the life feet update. But let's let's get some of the headlines here from Tarran as we approach another busy night on the big brother live feeds. Okay. Here we go. The office of civil defense has issued the following message. This is warning spoiler warning means than actual spoiler. And action shooting. Tocchet Scott use the spoilers here. Talk about what's happening on the live feeds and a busy another busy day in celebrity big brother Taryn. Okay. What's what's the latest at this hour? So. Been a lot of things happening a lot of talking him circles. But basically as soon as Tom became HR wage, he started thinking about this idea that he wanted to target Ricky when the power was announced that plan was a little bit. Like, oh, I don't know if we can do this anymore. What Ricky has the power? All sorts of things that might go wrong. So they eventually kind of landed on maybe we won't back door Ricky, maybe instead, we'll we'll put up Joey and candy and then will back door taymor thinking, maybe she has the power and then we'll flesh the power. And then we will still pretend that everything's fine with Ricky and tamer doesn't have the power. Then we'll know that Ricky has the power in that he's lying and every then we'll be able to convince the women that they need to turn on Ricky. And so there's been a lot of this. Ricky talk. Talk. Yes. So just to stay on that track. Tom Cato have discussed the Ricky talk with the women Natalie in low, and they have been like, hey is this a five personalized Susan four-person lines. What's going on here? Are we working with Ricky? Are we not working with with Ricky because we feel like we can't really trust Ricky, and maybe we should back door Ricky and Lolo is like no, I don't like that at all. We should not do that. Why are you being so paranoid? Tom Watkins, so weird and Tom. Hey, look, just don't trust. Rick very much. Maybe we should backdoor Amon Nolan Nolan. Nola Lolo, Natalie elect now, Tom crazy. What are we gonna do? We knew Ricky. And then they go warn Ricky and everything's Ricky knows Thomas is after him potentially. And that's kind of the rookie storyline. So far a little bit. Okay. In my mind. I feel like that. This is very premature to go after Ricky here with you know, that this is a, you know, a, you know, there's what? How many people nine nine in the house right now is it and you getting rid of one of your five that I mean, if Ricky got H O H is he going to put up, Tom and Kato? I don't think. So. So I think it's this is too early Terry. Yeah. I mean, basically Tom has the right idea that Ricky is in a great spot because he's in between two pairs at the final five. He also knows that Ricky doesn't particularly like him. And he knows that Ricky would definitely choose the women over that you guys. So in that regard. He's completely right? And what he's thinking through. But what he decides to do about? It is completely wrong. He is turning on this group too early. The women are never going to be okay with this Ricky is going to be super pissed. He might not even have the votes to get Ricky out. And so I mean, obviously what he should be doing is like is playing cool lying low for a little more. And then taking his shot a little bit later. That's that's kind of the move to to take here. But you know, Tom is he's. He's very all over the place. And when he has an idea he wants to talk it through, and he wants to have some fun with it. And so he's really into this one. I want to get Ricky before Ricky gets me. And so he he wants to make sure that this happens, and it is definitely blowing his entire game up here to the pleasure of everyone because this five personal lions would've absolutely run run the table these Tom hadn't blown it up here. But that's a feeling that all five make it to the end like in in fairness in celebrity big brother lefty all did make to the finale. And like the look look look at the competition. Unfortunately, you've got ta Maher who quit her competent would quit through last H competition if they get Joey out he's he's gone. No, don't worry about Joey you've got DNA and candy. It's like, yeah. I think it went must've competition. This is the right move. If this was the final nine on survivor as like, yeah. Tom green making the right? The making right. Call getting rid of Ricky Williams, big big threat guy that five personalites. He's gonna get screwed when he gets down to the end. But this is celebrity big brother too. I feel like that. This is an overplay here to take out Ricky Williams. Yeah. Yeah. Again, it's so hard to analyze the correctness of this move because it's it's really just like it's hard to even look at it. Like was it? The right move was at the wrong move because it's not really about the move. It's about the way that Tom did it like it was never ever going to succeed the way that Tom won about this. There is there is a universe where this works where Tom gets Kato. He gets DNA he talks to candy, and he talks to Joey, and he gets them altogether. And he says, hey, the Natalie in Lolo are super strong. They've had so many alliances Ricky is super strong. He's he's been pulling some strings all along we need to turn on these people. They would absolutely have Dina loyal to them, Joey if they pulled him in and they were honest with him and they gave him loyalty. He would be completely loyal to them. They would have numbers they could move against the the other three. And and I think that could potentially work for them. It would be kind of a risky move. But it would be one where we might look back and go man, that's when they really took control of the game. But that's not even remotely close to they're doing what they're doing is. Should we do should we back door Ricky? Let's go talk to the women about it. And let them know what we're thinking. And then maybe back off of the idea and tell and then do what they want us to do now that they know that we wanted to betray them. And now they're gonna work with the other people against us. I also think another interesting part of this week is that this is probably the week. That's the closest in length to the actual like the regular format of big brother where we had an H O H on Monday night, and we're going to have an Vic shin here coming up on Saturday. So a five day H O H rain is a really long time on celebrity big, brother. And especially when we've used to sorta like these rapid fire HOA Kato became h lay Friday night. And then had you know, they show the new h was crowned on Monday. So. Ends up being the kind of thing where a lot can really shift around in this week where we're only at the veto draw today that this is a week where a lot of things can develop. Yes. And especially with Tom in charge. Tom has been I've been I've been talking about how Tom wants to be team Canada's been shutting him down. Tom is now in charge. He's he said to Cato get in the back seat, and let me drive just bring it and. And so he's really he's driving the ship straight into the ground. And it's fantastic. It's everything of wanted him to be doing all along. And even recognizes this is probably going to get kicked off the show. But it'll be funny. So. And he's right. It is. It is funny. And I'm glad that he's doing it. Even though it's really bad game play in the back seat. And let me drive talking to you. I heard. Okay. All right Scottie. Who do? You wanna see win the veto? Rickie? I don't want any chance that he gives back towards. Okay. So if Ricky does win the veto Teheran who will go home from these nominations candy or Mr. Joey Lawrence, rob. I can't even tell you what Ricky will do with veto. Want him to win. I basically so now that Ricky knows that Tom was after him and the women are fully off the Tom and Gedo train. They spoke with Joey and Joey has been really playing the game pretty hard lately, and Joey is has seemingly convinced them to turn on Tom Cato completely and work with Joey instead because Joey is a genuine dude he's all about he want. He's ready to flip the game against Tom Cato. He's he's rearing into go. Meanwhile, Tomko think that Joey is with them and for them, and that's why they can back door Joe. Even our back door, Ricky, even without the support of the women. But but the women are now working with Joey and Ricky and tame taymor, and that their plan is okay, Joey if you win the veto don't use it that way, he can't back. Ricky, don't worry. We'll save. You will vote candy. Meanwhile, they're telling the men, hey, we I we need Joey gone because he's after us you're not you're not doing what we want by trying to back door Ricky 'cause we need Joey gone. So. There there now playing the guys they're playing Tom in Kato. And so the plan is to give Joey the veto. So that he won't use it. And then they'll vote out probably can be. Although there's still some talk of potentially voting Joey out, even if he doesn't use the veto. Yeah. Even if he wins doesn't use it. But whom probably I think I think that that would be a step too, far even for them. And I think that Joey one didn't use it. They would in fact ahead in both candy out. So candy would be the person to go. However, there is still the possibility that somebody like Ricky wins. He might use it to do something. I there's so many things that could happen guys. They go run circles all the time. All right. So busy busy day of updates of with Taryn. Of course, a wall. So likely know the holder of veto, and however those plans may change coming up tomorrow morning at eleven AM eastern, eight AM Pacific. Yes. Sorry. The chaff wanted out correctly. I wasn't even. Ricky's is not even playing the that's not even something. Yeah. So a low low is playing the three people Dina, I believe is playing and then. I is it taymor believe is also planning. So if she wants to win it. All right. Great, great, great synopsis, and of course, more more to come in the morning. Scotty anything else you want to get off your chest about the celebrity big, brother. Big brother, twenty Batman. Anything your landlord the hive cruise? No everything's chill here. I got nothing else to report. We'll scott. This was really nice to get to talk to one of these podcasts. What's what's on the shelves behind? You. Oh, got my picture of everybody got raven brash may to h letter this ABC's is of Mr. T bobblehead. No regular funk. Oh, if had bobble Seattle. Yeah. I have a Mr. T bobblehead over behind me. So that we have we share that in common method bond down to bed, Mr. tease, not on celebrity big, brother. I would love Mr. the big brother who take me this week. It'd be it'd be so VA. Yeah. Then you have a near the eight ball back there to where the paper machine. Magic eight ball. No. It's basketball basketball, eight fall. Wow. If I ever played you onto Tyler on my team. I will let him take the last shots. I know you'll make it. Okay. Always makes the fall. Okay. All right. Of course, you want to tell people to check out. Check out. Oh my gosh. Plug you plug. People who skied him I don't ever plug. I had the standard stuff Twitter YouTube channel Twitter any type of on YouTube. So far, it's been skits people wanted to culinary QNA. I'm only like two or three videos in the new thing. One learning skip do. Well, one of the ones I plan on doing next is like it's going to be my transformation into a vampire like it'll be changed as person over the summer. So it'll be kinda like metaphor. And they'll be comedy in it. To try to get wacky. Yes. You can get wacky wacky. I could see it. Alright. Sell Scott yet. Thank you so much. Let me tell you about what's coming up here on his podcast right now. This guy do follow survivor. I want this last year was the first year, I watch and his entire unit was path. Yeah. It was good season. It was a good season of survivor. We've got up right now on the website, our survivor thirty eight return profile Aubrey Brock. Oh, the story. So far, Mary quick Caskey. Join me to talk all about Aubrey very fun podcast talking about the Baxter Aubrey and oh chef Jim Smith. He is all over the ups. 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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Jan 24

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Celebrity Big Brother 2 | LFC Roundtable Jan 24

"And welcome to the LLC roundtable podcast. This is the podcast where we break down everything. From the feeds, I'm rose Armstrong. And with me today is Melissa Melissa. I'm doing well. It was so exciting to have the feeds back. I I think I tweeted a little too much on that first night. So I was just oak cited it's like, you know, the first night of feeds is always a big deal. So I'm excited to really kick the season off because I feel like it doesn't really get started until we have the first election the first victims always kinda, you know. So I'm excited to really get season going. Yeah, I feel like I don't know why they always make the first one so long the first one is on you know, if it's right after I won. That's the that's the prima stuff. They're also with me today is brand tighter and Brent Brentwood modest here. Always right and joined by the host who is always wrong tearing Armstrong how you doing Taryn. I mean, am I always wrong or just saying? Yeah. I was having fun of your expense last night. But it's only because you weren't there as you correctly called on Twitter, like it's more fun to make fun of you. When you're not there because we're gonna laugh. I don't have to put up with your comebacks. Well, we are here live as we will be every week to argue about what's been happening on the live feeds of celebrity big brother two, and we are on YouTube. You can send in questions to me on Twitter at Armstrong Taryn, or you can join us in the chat, and we may be able to respond to you as we go along here. But let's talk about what's been happening in this celebrity big brother house this week. There's a lot to cover in this first week. And there's still a lot that we don't know. So keep that in mind, but we started we started the week, obviously, all the houseguests moved in wonderful. It's great we had an h competition. It was a pair paired competition the two people that were left out were Kato and Natalie they are immune for the week. However, they will get to compete in the in both does that happen during the week, and they will be voting. I. Mike ninety nine percent. Sure, they will be voting in actions. So that is good to know Jonathan and Ryan end up winning this this paired competition, but oh twist they're going to have to compete against each other. And only one of them's going to be the other one is gonna have to go on the block that one person is going to be Jonathan while Ryan becomes our I h of the season. And then another twist he's gotta make nominations in thirty minutes. So there alliances are trying to come together. And they're trying to make some moves trying to figure out who to nominate Joe Jonathan is not able to get to Ryan first Ryan's telling the women that his ideas Dina and the mooch he then goes to Jonathan Jonathan Jonathan Dana, maybe Tom instead and Ryan's like. Oh, yeah. Totally. And so they do that and the mooch and Tom are nominated alongside Jonathan. Leaving the women just a little bit. Like, oh, I thought we were going to do another thing. Maybe maybe we should have a conversation about that. But then Jonathan and Ryan never have a conversation about it with them. So that's that's the first act of this week. Really just a bit of a mess on both production side on Jonathan and Ryan side. And and everything in between, Melissa. Yeah. Basically, I mean, honestly, I'm still very confused as to as to a lot of what's going on. And I thought maybe on the third episode. It would have cleared some things up, and I still feel more confused than ever. I really this is the most confused been once feed that turned on because it was like there were so many elements to it that we were trying to like we were gleaning what had happened from areas pieces of conversation. And usually it's like, oh, yeah. Like, we can there's something that happened that we don't know. But we can kind of piece it together and. Usually is one thing. But I feel like there's so much going on right now that we have no idea what happened and not even sure if big brother's going to be able to clear everything up for us with the next episode. So it's going to be interesting to see how they try and Mussa out. There's a reason for that because the life seek peaks that they gave us it was clear that big brother headed instructed them not to talk game. And this is the first big stick in the eye of the fans, it's big biller giving us the big middle finger to the people who care about the show again, we will watch no matter what the people who come on to life feeds who turn on CBS all access. Okay. When they give us a sneak peek, or like, the criminal a cream of the people who are your bread and butter people. That will always watch the show. No matter what I would watch it three times if they showed it to me. Okay. We're not the people that you need to be afraid of spoiling something about okay? It was just so dumb Taryn and. And then that spilled over into the bit of the first week where they weren't even sure what they were allowed to say. Because big brother had been on him so much about the fact that you'll you can't talk game when we're giving these fifteen minutes sneak peeks, which is why we didn't learn anything contrast that with last year where you have morosi and Marissa, and I can't remember who else brandy talking about what alliance they're gonna make and how they're going to stick together. And we were living for it. And gave us all the excitement in the world. I just want to say what the hell are you doing grander? Like, I'm like, I it's like other people like Johnson on Twitter when I was going off on him. Like, I want to love you. It's like big, brother. I want to love you prefer making it so damn hard. Why would you do that? And that's not even my worst problem with what