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Some movies are much more obscure than others but with the little searching you can find them on your streaming services or possibly on youtube for each episode. I will tell you all about what happened for real in the case and give you the name of a movie that is based on it. Also stay tuned at the end of each episode as it will give you some bonus movie names that you can look up and watch and of course are all based on true. Crime story The true crime movie that was based on this first case is and never let her go. It's two thousand and one movie starring. Mark harmon kathryn morris. Paul michael glaser and stephen f. Called the movie is based on the annual book of the same name and never let her go. I found the moving onto btv. That's t you b. I tv at the time of research for this recording. I will put the name in the show notes for you. This is a true crime. Podcast and this episode contains details of murder and other violent actions listener discretion is advised june twenty seventh nineteen ninety. Six was the last day anyone saw. Anne marie fahey alive anne marie was the scheduling secretary for then governor. Tom carper she lived alone and after not being able to get in touch with her for days. Her family reported her missing. On june thirtieth. The last known person she was seen with was thomas capanna whom she had dinner with that thursday night. June twenty seven capanna was a partner at a wilmington law office. Anne-marie became romantically involved with tom. Capanna in nineteen ninety four after meeting at work event capanna was a married man in his late forties and anne. Marie was a single young woman of twenty eight. Capanna was married with children had a very successful career. A beautiful home. Some would even call a mansion and he was seeing an for lunches then dinners and eventually back at her place and marie kept a diary and she started out by saying how they were very good friends and then how. She was falling in love with him in her diary. Entry dated april twenty fourth nineteen ninety four. She said i am afraid. Because i'm in love with the man who has a family. I fantasize my life with him all the time. He is very gentle intelligent. Handsome and interesting amery was seeing a therapist to talk about her eating disorder and other things. She told the therapist about how she felt about tom and that she knew she needed to end it. This was not who she wanted to be seeing a married man. She had different plans for her life and that was not it. She tried to end it with capanna but would always give in and go back. The relationship became one that was off and on when it was off capanna would send her flowers every day email and call her all day long until she was worn down and agreed to see him. He bought her expensive clothes. Handbags gave her money when she needed it and took her to expensive dinners. He even told her that he was leaving his family for her. In september of nineteen ninety. Five anne marie met a new man a single man that she was very much interested. She had already been trying to end the relationship with tom but now she was more motivated than ever however capanna would not make it easy on her highly manipulative. He used every tricky had at his disposal to make her see him then. Turns out an. Mary was not the first woman tom capanna had had an affair with there. Were others and the one. Just before an murray was ongoing affair that was still going on and had started years before he met anne marie the dinner with capanna in june of nineteen ninety six on the thursday before anne marie disappeared was supposed to be her telling him that she was not going to see him again that it was really over she had already told him this but he had kept at her in the usual way and he thought she was just to give in again like she had in the past. She felt she needed to see him in person and tell him face to face. She hoped he would get him to understand. Although it is hard to know how much she really believed. That was possible just months earlier in april of the same year in her diary. I have finally brought closure to tom. Caputo what a controlling manipulative insecure jealous maniac for one whole year. I allowed someone to take control of every decision of my life. Then anne-marie fahey diary entry april seventh nineteen ninety-six here. It was june twenty seven some two and a half months after she had written in her diary and she was feeling the need to meet capanna for dinner to tell him face to face yet again. Twelve days into anne. Marie fahey having gone missing. A newspaper article was printed with the headline tense. Vigil for family as a sister disappears anne-marie's sister and brothers were interviewed at her apartment. Home where they had tied yellow bows on the columns of the porch. The article identified. Thomas capacity is an acquaintance. She had dinner with the night of june. Twenty-seventh both thomas. Caparo and michael scanlon. A man she had been dating for. Nearly a year stated the article had been questioned. Investigators told family they had found no evidence of foul play. The governor actually asked president clinton for help and asked the us attorney's office to join the investigation which they did governor carper said in an interview about marie having been missing for twelve days at that point. Our hopes are dissipating that she might be found safe. That's a hard thing to come to grips with. But were very discouraged right now about her safety. So at this point in time. The affair anne marie fahey and thomas capanna had been having was not yet in the press. Soon the affair did come to light in. Capanna became a suspect per sister had been reading her diary hoping to find out where she was or what had happened to her. The family soon came to suspect capanna as well then anne-marie fahey. He started out as governor carpers receptionist in washington in nineteen ninety-one then. She moved to wilmington when he became governor and she was promoted to his scheduling secretary in nineteen ninety-three and murray's was not easy. Her mother had died when she was just nine years old. Fahey's brothers said. Their father spiraled into intense eventually stopped working and the family became impoverished going without food electricity. Hot water or telephone service. Anne marie who was the youngest of six was often sent to live with relatives or friends to develop problems with depression. Anxiety eating disorders and near obsessive neatness phase anorexia and abuse of laxative. Left the five foot ten brunette a dangerous one hundred seventeen pounds at one point later as the investigation continued experts from anne. Marie diary were leaked to the press and even later at trial emails between caputo and fahey were read. All of these show how the relationship was between the two anne. Marie fahey and tom caparo did go to dinner that night. He brought her a four hundred dollar. He bought from talbot's that he knew she wanted but couldn't afford the waitress. Said there were no laughs or smiles and both of them just picked at their meal. Fahey's therapist told police that fahey feared capino in only would've agreed to go to dinner with him in order to break up with him somehow though he had gotten her to come over to his house after dinner he had actually separated from his wife for real. At this point it is believed that he shot her in the head as she sat on the sofa in his house. He'd put her in a large igloo cooler wrapped in chains and put it in his garage. He went back to her apartment and staged it. He put the dress. She had been wearing that night on a chair in her room. He put her handbag on the kitchen counter. Along with the doggie bag from the restaurant he also left a grocery bag with fruit on the counter. He turned on the air conditioning and when he left he locked the door behind him with her key. The next day he had his brother gerald take him out in his boat to get rid of the body he dumped her in the atlantic. The cooler would later be recovered. Capanna got rid of the sofa and carpet. Which was something that would clues investigators in on to further investigation. They learned purchase new carpet the day after anne. Marie was not seen. The house would eventually be thoroughly searched and a small blood drop would be found which would be later matched anne-marie through dna the also found out that his other mistress. Deborah mcintyre had bought capanna a gun to use after. He told her he was being threatened by someone. The highly publicized case went to trial on october twenty six nineteen ninety eight and lasted twelve weeks before trial. Capanna came up with the story. That deborah mcintyre had been jealous. When out about anne marie and that she had come over with the gun is defense team. Tried to paint the picture that anne marie was accidentally shot when mcintyre and caputo struggled for control of the gun. But the jury didn't buy it. But why would capanna kill her. Yeah sure he was having an affair with her but he and his wife are now separated so he wouldn't be afraid of her finding out ruining his marriage etcetera. He would soon be single. He had another woman on line for years and he was still seeing her. It was also rumored that he had begun dating yet another woman as well shortly before marie disappeared. Was this about control them. She was leaving him and he wasn't in control of her was an marie spot on in her diary entry when she said he was controlling manipulative mania june seventeenth nineteen ninety. Nine jury found thomas capanna guilty of first degree murder. He was sentenced to death by lethal injection in january. Two thousand and six the delaware. Supreme court affirmed capanna conviction but remanded the case for sentencing because the death penalty was imposed by a non unanimous jury verdict in february of that year the state abandoned its effort to seek capital punishment opting to leave capanna imprisoned for life without parole. Thomas capanna was aged sixty one when he was found dead in his jail. Cell on september nineteenth. Two thousand eleven. The medical examiner said capanna died of sudden cardiac arrest. Tom carper who is now. A senator released the statement. Tom panos death. Does not change the fact that anne marie was taken from us far too soon sadly nothing will ever bring her back to her family and to those of us who knew and deeply admired her she was one of the loveliest kindest persons i have ever had the privilege of serving with. We will miss her still and will never forget her mother. Thoughts and prayers are with her family during this difficult time. I have three bonus movies for you to choose from or you can watch all three. The first one is the hillside stranglers. Nineteen eighty nine movie based on the true story of serial killers kenneth bianchi and angelo bono and the investigation and capture starring. Richard krona. billy. Zane and dennis farina. The second movie is one. Love kills the seduction of john. Hearne nineteen ninety-three movie starring. Gary cole and marge held burger gary cole. Stars as a highly decorated vietnam vet who in nineteen eighty five fell for the wrong woman and became a killer for hire when cole read the script. His initial reaction to the script was one of disdain. This is just ugly he recalls saying and the third one is good night. Sweet wife a murder in boston to nineteen ninety movie on october twenty third nineteen eighty nine a boston man. Charles stewart claimed that his pregnant wife carol had been shot in the head by a robber. It's a fact based story about boston and his pregnant wife. Who was who was shot in their car on october. Twenty third nineteen eighty. The wife and child subsequently died. He was also shot but survived. The husband then told that his attacker was a black man. The following investigation incited racial. Tensions in the city has there was question of the husband's innocence in the crime. Starring ken margaret colin james handy and beady one the sources for today's episode notorious convicted killer. Thomas capanna found dead in delaware. Prison cell w. h. y. y. by mark fowler september nineteenth. Two thousand and one and murray fahey person pictures and information dash fold three dot com the movie and never let her go two thousand and one the book and never let her go by an rule. They will all be listed on the show notes as well.
OA462: Rittenhouse Team Commits Perjury; DC Statehood and Impeachment!
"They wanted a chance to make law but here it is a good one. Is this your guide. We have your name on the registration. No you don't don't be ridiculous networks. Don't get to decide. Election do janas. I'm not some slick big city law like my opponent here. What just happened kind of confessed. Sorry i find you. Bring out the wheel of punishment. Welcome to opening arguments. A- podcast that pairs a comedian with a real life lawyer. This podcast is sponsored by the law offices of the andrew torres. llc for entertainment purposes is not intended as legal advice and does not form an attorney client relationship. Don't take legal advice from a podcast. Hello and welcome dubbing arguments. This is episode. Four hundred and sixty two. I'm thomas that's andrew. How're you doing. Sir i am fantastic. Thomas how're you. i'm tired. I was up tonight. This is a real twenty twenty. One night. I was late last night because i finally did laundry down when you don't go anywhere you can. I don't know the last time i did. Laundry might have been in the nineties. I dunno it's this. Rem shirt anyway. Yeah it was kind of funny. I was like men up really late all because my laundry wasn't dry yet and they had to fold it. That's my life. How you doing there a lot of stuff going on. We've got a ton of things to cover and you know. I had to push back to next week. Some of the breaking news from today. Because you know. We're sort of trying to prioritize which stories we can cover in what kind of depth. So we have a fantastic couple episodes ahead. I can't even believe it. We gotta find out what's going on with kyle rittenhouse. He's missing and the plus. All they like allegedly lied about where all that stuff dc statehood all that and then trump impeachment and that's just today and then. I don't know how we're squeezing all that in andrew. There's more next on tuesday. We've been looking forward to this for a long time. We've got. Morgan stringer Associate over to explain game. Stop the the lot more of a legal angle rather than merely trying to tell what. A short is for an hour Can't wait for that so all that is to say pl- so much stuff to talk about. We'd better get to it Just first real quickly. How al forty five this week. What went on there. I o forty five was super randy. This week. i talk about the The biden commission a bipartisan commission on reforming the judiciary and the poison pill that Joe biden. I think his chair Bob bauer co authored. A book with jack goldsmith. And so i think he was like. Oh yeah like. I know republican. Oh i'll bring on jack goldsmith end like it's just it. It's it's designed To make sure that the commission goes nowhere so Fun if you enjoy me talking about jurisprudence and originalism and swearing for most of the time than Than that's why listen to this show. We've got a real. John fogerty situation here andrew. I think we need to sue. I'll forty five to stop ranting about originalism. There's a it's it's a. Real creedence clearwater. Yeah i i do sound very similar to the guy who knowing no andrew to he would like work really hard on each side of the case against himself and like do a full honor. The other side is alleging is pure garbage and then like objection and then do all that. It'll be fun. Okay and thomas talk to me about the latest. Sifo oh i had to yell about filibusters for minute see. Yeah that's fair. But i i stayed in my lane. Which is kinda trying to explain what they are but really just you know. I can't believe look we all know. I know most people know this. But i just in case they don't on serious inquiries only i. I talked about the filibuster. I talked about my my little secret. Plan for Pearson cinema to not have to go back on her word. So tune into that but andrew filibuster. I know we've covered it. It's an accident it shouldn't even exist. It's all because aaron. Burr was like. Oh we don't need this. One senate rule that never seems to get used. That's it that's why there's some founding fathers created it because all they wanted to you know protect the voice of the minorities the senate it's the blah blah blah blah. All that is garbage. They didn't mean for it to exist. It's not the cooling saucer of history or they didn't even know they accidentally created it for fifty years. That didn't even know until someone finally was like. Wait a minute and then they used it like eighteen thirty or something. It's it's it's garbage. It shouldn't exist I i have so many thoughts but They're going to have to be confined to so maybe we'll do an opening arguments on it. There's so much time anyway. Finally we had a very fun stereo last night on that stereo app. Make sure you hop on for next week. It's every week so every wednesday at five. Pm pacific eight pm eastern It was a lot of fun. Thanks for everybody who ask questions. And we didn't even get to a fraction of them as usual self. But we do you know you you get to ask those live to hear your voice if un moderated again. You'll yet to hear twelve year. Old boys trolling us. It was fun actually. I enjoyed it. We got to hear from some twelve year old british kid. The yelling at us for something. I don't even know what good times anyway. Let's get to our show down down down down okay. Andrew domestic terrorist murder. Kyle rittenhouse doesn't feel too strongly that he needs to abide by this dip yele shins of his bail. And all that. What's going on there. Okay so this is amazing. And and not in a good way in like a white privilege way. It like a white privilege way that you can't possibly imagine disclaimer. I have minimal experience in white collar criminal defense. I will tell you. I have never ever ever ever seen anything like this. So kyle rittenhouse East on two million dollars bail right boy. How did that kid come up with all that money. Andrew raised it online through a gofundme page. Throw money at a terrorist murder just to support him and what he does and then when you are released to your own custody particularly when you don't live in the state in which you are required to report in connection with your crimes the court will occasionally try and send you mail right They'll say hey we've got a hearing coming up and And you've got to show up because that's one of the conditions of the release. The the whole point. I should say there really two points. Behind pretrial detention. One of them is to protect the public against violent offenders and the other is to ensure that defendants of exceptional means do not flee the jurisdiction and fail to show up for their hearing right so you can imagine if bill gates were indicted for murder writing f a federal judge might be like you know what well or when jeff epstein was arrested. You wouldn't want to be like yeah. You're free to go out on bail. I know you're a private jet in an island a private island at a private security force that you could you know if we are enemy aircraft as satellite right. Yeah right so those two things are coming into play here. They both seem to favor. You know not releasing coward now book but been colorado mouse released and the court tried to send him male and that was returned to sender. And what are the things that you one hundred percent definitely cannot do is lie about your address to the court that has jurisdiction over you for your murder charge. The notice got sent back to the court with a A mark on it. That said there was no forwarding address and so as you might imagine Prosecutors in that case immediately we talked about this as as the story was breaking yesterday on our. Qa immediately sought a bench warrant for houses arrest and asked the sitting judge. Increase the bail amount by an additional two hundred thousand dollars now why they picked that number when he's already out on two million. I know now. I need to tell you what the defense has done. They've admitted to perjury. Wow which is a weird defense. Is that a good strategy. It's generally speaking not considered good. Defense strategy to concede to perjury before the court re remember by the way that written houses initial team consisted of the lynnwood team right. It was lynnwood and john pierce and another guy who entered together. How many lawyers are there in this country are. They're only seven am i. Guess there's only seven when it comes to right wing terrorist. Defending insurrection type lawyers. Maybe that's what it is. He goes to insurrection slash terrorism slash. Overthrowing the government. There's only a handful have that specialty. They were hundreds of thousands. Yeah and so kyle rittenhouse fired lynnwood and and that little cartel as being too crazy for him which you know. That's a fun one. And so now His remaining attorneys Which include mark d richards and counsel from a separate firm who was hired to kind of take the burden off of richards. At attorney by the name of cory sharafi. They've conceded okay. Yeah the court asked us for. Kyle written houses address and instead of actually giving them the address. We gave them a fake address. Why did we give them a fake address. Because and am going to quote directly from there Pleading in objection to the states motion to increase bond this as paragraph number four quote attorney. Pierce was directly. And for that attorney. Pierce is the former council. Right john m pierce the lynnwood associate guy. So when you hear attorney pierce. I want you to think somebody who has partnered with a certifiably crazy person can attorney pierce was directly informed by high ranking member of the kenosha police department not to provide the address of the rittenhouse safehouse because of numerous threats made against kyle and his family. See attached affidavit of john m pierce i pulled and have read the attached affidavit of john m pierce and. This is the weirdest affidavit. I have ever seen in my entire life and adheres. Why when you sign an affidavit and you sign it under penalty of perjury. You were a testing to personal facts that are known to you. An affidavit is not subject to the federal or state rules of evidence. Okay so what that means is say whatever you just say you think so when people ask me about what happened when you pork the test. I'm going to give my version of events. The test was one thing and then andrew poked now. It's impossible that kind of thing and you can say like you can give your attached. You can't separate years of practicing law. I had never encountered questions so unfair. Yeah yeah you can't lie but look what you can do is you. Can relay your feelings right. You can say in. My opinion and injury was trying to bring down my bar exam. Set right yeah you can say. I overheard andrew in a after one of our recordings. And skype disconnect. I overheard andrew talking to somebody who is believed to be his sister-in-law and said at he cackled gleefully and said ha ha ha. I've really got that bastard. Top black market t three b test maker. That's like grandpa could be could be. Look my point is. Is that in an affidavit. You testifies to the things that you know. In belief right it can be hearsay. It's then up to the court. You then argue whether that provision right because all affidavit is essentially witness testimony when you're not on the stand because you're not at the trial stage yet right so it's like a direct testimony right. It's like being on direct on the state. So imagine my surprise that paragraph one of the response and objection begins with on information and belief. Kyle rittenhouse in. His family have received numerous death and other threats. Based on the event of twenty twenty twenty in the city of kenosha wisconsin. Some of these threats were delivered via social media within hours of the shooting of this case. And when i turned to his former attorneys and again an attorney would know this. When i turn to that affidavit. I john m pierce being i duly sworn upon oath depose state the following paragraph five and the first four are just you know who he is right. I'm an attorney authorized to practice law. I was a lead member of coward now defense team until he fired me no professional association. You know i personally Posted the bond rittenhouse then we get into the actual facts. I some other terrorists to defend through information belief. I am aware that prior to november twentieth. Twenty twenty kyle rittenhouse. As well as his immediate family had received numerous death threats from members of the general public because of these threats arrangements were made for the rittenhouse family to reside at a safe house in an unidentified location. This is yeah right. I thought i thought it was going to be a police officer at affidavit told them to do it i thought that's what they said though not their excuse. That is their excuse right. That is the affidavit. Is just like i saw some bad posts after the murder that he did. So were therefore i'm lying to the court. It later contains an example of what you can do in an affidavit right so later contains the allegation that That i lead off with right paragraph ten. I paragraph i spoke with kenosha police captain paragraph ten. The kenosha police captain told me that i quote absolutely should not provide the address of the physical location of the mouse safehouse on the form but instead provide his home address in antioch illinois his home where Family has moved and they no longer live so noticed that is hearsay. Pierce has no problem and he shouldn't putting hearsay into an affidavit. So what the hell is this through information and belief right you plead on information belief in a complaint when you don't have the facts but you expect to develop those fax right so i hear rustling in my backyard at night. I look down The next day and i see a footprint And i i really really think that it's yours thomas right because i know what your shoes look like. Also there's a you know a fleet. Foxes cd rapper. And i'm like okay right audio. Cables left everywhere right and so i plead on information and belief. Thomas smith broke into my backyard on the night of january. Whatever that's when you use information and belief you you cannot never seen a person. Put this in an affidavit before. It's not a thing that you do in an affidavit which is supposed to be a recitation of facts that you know and and so my supposition is. This is a lawyer being overly cautious knowing that they are treading upon perjuring themselves. Right yeah let me be very clear right and again. I do not have evidence that john m pierce has perjured himself. In this affidavit. That is not what. I'm saying when you sue us and bring it on baby you know. Opening aren't going to be limited liability corporation right. I am not accusing you of having perjured yourself. In this affidavit. I m saying this is a bizarre and unusual affidavit and appears to be written by an attorney who's written and viewed hundreds if not thousands of affidavits in his career and vote the immediate reason if you were to ask me. Why would somebody right there affidavit. In such a way in the passive voice in such ways to disclaim personal knowledge of something that you're supposed to testify as to is your first hand knowledge That would be to avoid later being brought up on charges of perjury. Now are there other reasons. Yes sure it could just be incompetence right There are other. There are other bad reasons for this affidavit. To be written this way but there are no good ones so also attached is the once you're asking yourself. Is it possible that That that rittenhouse received complaints we have one email. This email was sent january. Twenty fifth twenty twenty one Which you may recognize as two months after attorneys for kyle rittenhouse falsified his whereabouts to the court and it is from. I'm gonna. I'm actually going to give the address here on the air. There's no reason not to. It's it's part of public record. 'em lucky ninety nine. The email address being g lynch nine nine nine nine at g mail dot com. Could that be a sock. Puppet could be might not be. We don't know that. Says a message for your client. And the email says told mr rittenhouse the prison rape is a real thing and he will likely be attached attacked by several very large men with well large equipment. Shortly after his conviction they'll offer him protection he'll fall for it and he will be there be word until he can't provider tight enough orifice for them anymore. Being a cocky little eho with a free as f- shirt on will make him into a sad little man with a very large a-hole soon enough have fun with that trial now. Why don't don't do that now this also. I didn't hear anything in there about. I know where you're safe houses. So you perjured yourself in a quarter of law. I didn't hear any of this is the only piece of evidence that is really motion of how they were terrified for the life and and i have been part of the show that is probably an email that they actually received is they received it and a half ago and it says i can't wait for your client to get raped in prison. Now look nobody who thinks cow written deserves to go to prison. Should be sending letters like this but no this is not. I'm showing up at your house. And what right this is. I can't wait for your client to be convicted and then raped in prison. That's gross thing to say but absolutely does not support any of the inferences arguments. There is zero evidence And i could do. That's the best. Rittenhouse this is this. Is there objection. Yeah so it's almost like people on the left largely like well we'll let the law take care of anyone. I shouldn't say that but anyway it's it's amazing that there wasn't something better. They could wave around as evidence. You know absolutely so there. You go Important lesson taught send threatening emails to high-profile scumbags right because that person listens to our show andrew. Yeah i sure hope. Not but but look like a. It's a terrible thing to do. And you know here. it is like. It's being attached to the defenses objections. Right like yeah. Well i mean. That's not in the camp johnson reasons why it's a terrible thing to do but like okay. What's going on here so they get to lie. This is terrible evidence. They and like is he actually missing. Is that all it was is just that a a letter bounce back. It wasn't that he's actually on the run or anything that we know. As far as we know he is not on the run. But we have the admission that they deliberately did not provide the address of where kyle rittenhouse lives to the court of law with jurisdiction over calvert. Now's before who me is supposed to stand trial That's definitely not a good thing white staggering. Who will for what consequence for this if anything so lawyers we need. We need to see. Yeah there there are several layers of potential consequences. Here number one We need to see. And i could not find this by recording what the new arrest warrant looks like. Ok that new arrest warrant will mean that there will be a second bail hearing that seconds bail hearing i expect prosecutors to say i remember that time when we released this kid and he lied about where he lives Maybe let's do that again so So second crack at the apple with respect to that it is supported that is separate from The request to increase the bail on the first arrest warrant right so that that's a separate jack and then And then the third issue is. I would expect the court to sue raise sanctions against mark richards and or hold him in contempt In connection with admittedly perjuring himself. Before the court i do not know of any judge that would just be like. Oh oh yeah a cop. A cop told you to lie in my courtroom. So that's fine mr richards. No that's definitely not fine. And there's the side issue that you're gonna see it's going to be on kennedy and tucker carlson of. Oh well you know. They tried to get a stipulation that the address would be redacted and the prosecutor would grant it. That's why they had to do that. And that was you know the the the first detachment to all of this. That's true but not relevant right. The said Wisconsin has a proud history of open records and government transparency and. I'm reluctant to make an exception to the normal practices unless you can provide me with specific tangible and intangible threat were threats that would justify secrecy. I am not willing to agree to redact your clients address from the public record. Of course you were certainly free to file a motion with the court and it will eventually be the court's decision any case but i will oppose any such motion unless there's a specific tangible an imminent basis for that's how you practice law right. Yeah that i mean. They clearly have all kinds of republican terrorist support money so why not. Just give them your address but go stay somewhere else and pick up your mail. Well except that. Saying i am living at x. Even if you are even if x is a mail drop is still technically violate thing. Is that a letter bounce back. That's why this. I mean he's joe offers all that crap you know. But but here's the thing right as you hear tucker carlson and sean hannity spin this as well. You know he was in fear for his life blah blah blah all. The lawyer never responded to this. The attorney corey chura physi- up saying that correctly never responded to this. Their response was rather than produce proof to the da or independently. Move the court right. Those are the two things you can do. You can come forward with specific instances of tangible an imminent threat to your client and put it before the court or right. You can separately move to seal. The proceedings didn't do either of those. They just decided. Well okay rather than what the court bill. We're just going to lie. That's not how you practice law as this unfolds. We will continue to watch but Again you know it. What began with a staggering display of white privilege hopefully We will be able to circle back very quickly and And the wisconsin courts will Mr rittenhouse on the second arrest. Warrant and And we can avoid all of this so we'll keep watching. Thank you dr hibbert. I rest my case. You rest your case what. I thought that was just a figure of speech case. Clo- i'm for our next topic. Hopefully a little more cheerful. This was this just questioned from the q. And a. the that's making it on the primetime. Here yeah. I think it was great. Yeah someone asks if we make dc estate which hopefully we we will hear. How soon would they get. The two senators with a cash in right away with after to room would they. What would the scenario be there. So there are two specific answers to this question one. You're gonna like it one you're not gonna like and the one you're not gonna like is the one that controls baloney walk you through all of it. It is possible to fight this and get to new democratic senators seated right away right now. Congress's power to admit new states into the union comes from article. Four section three clause one of the constitution that says new states may be admitted by congress into this union but no new state. She'll be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state. Okay that makes sense nor any state formed by the junction of two or more states or parts of states without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as the congress. So that's it that doesn't say a whole lot. It says congress can admit new states into the union And then gives restrictions if those are coming out of existing states which it's not right. dc eight. Yeah territory right. And so i looked then to pass practice March eleventh nineteen fifty nine is when the senate passed the hawaii statehood bill our most recent state and then the house approved the bill. The next day It was signed into law by dwight. Eisenhower eighteenth then went for a referendum in hawaii on june twenty seventh and then by the then they voted. Yes and then. By presidential proclamation. Hawaii became the fiftieth state on august. Twenty first nineteen fifty-nine and senators were seated on august twenty fourth. So you know that was five months beginning to end. That's pretty quick. He's then. I looked at the bill that tom carper Senator from delaware introduced to make dc estate state and it is. It is a very comprehensive. Bill it was fun for me to read an and it responds to the two arguments that are going to be raised That challenge dc statehood. Because yes as soon as we make. Dc estate the republicans will be in court to argue in front of their newly politicized. Judiciary that it's invalid to make dc estate. These arguments are not good. But i'm going to walk you through them. And i'm gonna show you how this bill. It avoids the thorniest problem and then the remaining problem is one that is kind of funny when you look at the folks who were making. So here's what's going to happen under this bill and and and just as a side note if you've ever heard me talk about a metes and bounds description for real property and you want to read like what meets inbounds looks like in actual loss stuff Read this bill got six pages because because what it does is it says okay. The existing district of columbia shall become the new state of washington. Dc right and instead of standing for district of columbia. It will stand for douglas and columbia over the abolitionist. So in in other words it is no longer being defined as the capital district. I think they're missing an opportunity to choose a really bad as new name entirely but okay yeah like the mongooses the football team or you know. Oh my gosh they do. this thing is just. We're the state. There's a state that would be amazing. So what it does is take existing dc and says okay. You're now a and then it carves out with these meats and bounds. Description like it's like you know and thereby precede southwesterly along pennsylvania avenue for eleven point five feet before turning thirty degrees and so what that does is that complies with article. One section eight clause seventeen of the constitution which holds the congress shall have the power to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such district not exceeding ten square miles as may by the cessation of particular states and the acceptance of congress became the seat. These are capital letters. Although you know it's the constitution in its the eighteenth century so every other word or capital letters but Become the seat of the government of the united states so in other words the capital area right the capitol building and various stuff around that in which no one lives now becomes the seat of the government of the united states And everything else all the other neighborhoods in washington. Dc became the state. And that gets you out of One of the two arguments that will be raised against dc statehood the other argument. I i actually view as more of an opportunity than an argument against statehood. And and it is this. The twenty-third amendment gives dc dc three electoral votes. Here's what it says. The district constituting the seat of the government of the united states so again reiterating that same term. Shell point in such manner as congress may direct a number of electors for president vice president equal to the whole number of senators and representatives in congress to which the district would be entitled if it were a state but in no event more than the least populous state they shall be in addition to those appointed by the states shall be considered for the purposes of election of president vice president to be elected appointed by state and they shall meet in the district and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment so in other words dc. We know this right gets three electoral votes Because it gets the number would be entitled to if it were a state in any event not exceeding the least populous state wyoming if you excise all of the rest of the district of columbia you are now left with those three electoral votes being apportioned to the seat of the government right by the capitol building. And let me point out. The anybody lives in. That area writes a dog live there. We could but it's better than that. Remember that the the first sentence says that the district shall appoint quote in such manner as congress may draw dog mayor of quote. Not only talked mayor. Put you know again. It would be a question of first impression. Obviously but y reading of the twenty-third amendment is that congress could pass a law after dc statehood that says we also direct that the district Constituting the seat of the government of the united states. Right that in tiny little area. That's just the capital shall appoint its electors in accordance with the winner of the popular of the popular vote. Total dog mayor better. They get a little office. You know like a little fake dog office and you just say like this dog is the elector for a different direction. That's find your way. Cool two thousand three like little mouse with the. I'm just saying there's a lot we could do here. Andrew well that's true but this will give you three more votes for the national popular. Vote winner right. It would help restore so so not only. Would you get the senators. But until the twenty-third amendment is repealed and put a pin in that you would get three more electoral votes that congress could allocate exciting announcement every week. We're doing extra opening arguments. You know how we're gonna be on the stereo wednesdays at five. Pm pacific eight pm eastern on the stereo up answering your questions and you're going to be a part of the show. I am so excited for it. 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There's even more cool stuff to talk about absolutely so. Make sure you join us over on stereo. That is every wednesday eight pm eastern five. Pm pacific on the stereo applic- for me. I'm at torres. Look for thomas at serious pod or just start searching for opening arguments. You will come across it. And we'd love to see their Now this bill in order to to deal with that problem fast tracks and fights a joint resolution to repeal the twenty-third amendment right and it says it shall proceed through the senate without being subject to a vote for cloture with actually quote with no time for debate you know. You don't really need time to debate getting rid of it. I suspect this is the argument that kind of at first blush. You would say all right. Well that doesn't really seem leaves kind of hanging out there. The question of what to do with the twenty-third amendment but now notice the kind of argument. That right wingers would be forced to make in federal court about the twenty-third amendment. They would be forced to make unintended based argument right. Something that goes the opposite of their literalist textual crap text. I'm reading it it. It says the district constituting the seat. Shallow point and such manner as congress may direct. It does not say how many people have to live in that district and if that's zero. Yeah right doesn't say dog can't be an elector in the l. Now that was my thing. That's fine but no like like there is. There are no grounds rate like you. Would you would need an old school conservative or applying the ordinary model of jurisprudence. To go right but look. We all know the reason why the twenty-third amendment was passed. It was a compromise to give people living in dc some say in the presidency despite the fact that you know they got no say over their own elected representatives. And how many times right in court is the textualist originalist response to that. you know. well facts don't care about your feelings man like Okay it was designed to do that but you know what congress clearly anticipated that The size of dc might fluctuate. That's why it says the district constituting the seat of government in the united states. Right that's why it provides for a formula right. It says you get the number of electoral votes equal to the number of senators plus representatives andrew lawyer levin all of those so. I don't think those are good reasons to strike down dc statehood so now let's come full circle in this bill. This bill specifically provides upon ratification That the district of columbia will then hold a special election. Okay can you remind me the status of the bill was this in the house. And the senate bill. This was introduced by Dog by tom carper. The senator from delaware. So you know you you you may have heard. Iv inveighed against. Chris coons the senior senator from delaware before who has these like needlessly centrist tendencies. That come up from time to time. tom carper appears to be good dude and so he's introduced this It is still in committee at the moment. We you know we will see when it clears committee and comes up to the floor. And and how democrats proceed but again this is one of the very first pieces of legislation and if it passes in its current form it says that immediately upon passage not more than thirty days after receiving certification of the enactment of this act from the president the mayor of the district of columbia shall issue a proclamation for the first elections for two senators and one representative in congress from the state and again as i pointed out. Before you don't need to do that you could just accept because dc has elected to shadow senators. Paul strauss and mike brown by the way. This is what alaska did. What for a very long time while. Alaska was lobbying to become a state. And we don't have time to go through it but from a historical perspective. I recommend reading up on that because the arguments against alaska statehood. We're very very similar to the same political arguments. We get right right. yeah Racist southern democrats were like. Yeah if we admit. Alaska we're going to have to more votes for civil rights legislation so Fan of that. Now look at it so the history over that right disputes over admitting alaska's very very parallel to the disputes over admitting the district of columbia really an interesting historical Comparison if you're a total geek. Like i m which you know. You're listening to the show so you probably are. I should also add eleanor. Holmes norton has been the nonvoting delegate representing washington dc in the house of representatives. For the past thirty years she has been reelected fifteen times And is i mean. And she really is the icon. The hero of of dc statehood She's been working for that Longer than anybody and And so. I certainly hope that if she wants to become the senator. The senior senator from the district of columbia from washington. Dc the state That That she gets kind of her first. Pick of Of whichever race but like we could just do that like Senators are appointed and then elections are scheduled. Like after you you you could. This bill specifically says that the order of operations is it get signed into law by the president and then the mayor of dc has thirty days to call a special election must include both a primary and a general election. So you're talking at least three months from the date of of whenever this is Whenever this is a signed into law. So i think one of the questions to kind of wrap up the segment. I think the thought process was well. Look if we managed to get through dc statehood. How quickly can we see. Those two democratic senators have a fifty to fifty democratic majority and not need to worry about any of this and the answer is twenty. Twenty two at the earliest right like and that would be if we had kind of breakneck pace to expedite passage of this bill. Which you know without blowing up the filibuster. That's not going to happen. So great question. I thought it was worth it. For a deep dive into how dc would become a state and looking at the to sort of constitutional roadblocks and everything else I i love seeing this high on the democratic agenda. Because you know it i lived in. Dc like you know. Those people do ought to be adjudged worthy of of governing themselves station without representation yup most popular. Dc license plate. Yeah all right. Well nice mini diaper. Can we do. We have time for a wildcard. I think so does not exactly a wildcard but it's president. Trump's impeachment brief. I you know. I've seen stuff like his lawyers quit. You've seen the means over his lawyers. Quitting seemed now. i'd just size. Were recording that you know that someone wants them to testify. Which doesn't seem like it would happen. But what's going on with this mess The the president's chief impeachment counsel as of a week ago. A guy named butch Resigned and the speculation is that he resigned because the president wanted to put a full on defense of yes they did steal the election from me and bush was like right. I is this a windies. Yeah so so. The president got two new guys. He got david showing and bruce castor and again we're using our read pleadings backwards rights. He started the signature page. David show and he's just a guy. Like when i say just a guy i mean. His firm is half the size of mine. We're we're gonna have mortgage next week. Like i've got an associate david show and it's just him he just has a soul practice and and again. I just want illustrate that right. Look if joe biden were impeached and he would call me up and go through. I want you to steer meant. I would say this is wendy like i'm honored but like maybe a firm with more than two people in it may be like an work our asses off like bringing thomas. He's an ace at the bar. But still maybe go with somebody else. Maybe so that's so. So that's showing bruce castor. I was shocked A link the philly inquirer article because the national news media has has said. And you've probably seen this like he was the prosecutor that declined to prosecute bill cosby in two thousand and five. It was the first instance of serious complaints up this philly. Enquirer article shows how much that is being soft pedaled by the by the national media. I'm gonna read from it so it is true right. He was a district attorney for montgomery county. Pennsylvania from two thousand to two thousand eight in two thousand and five. A police fielded a report that comedian bill cosby had sexually assaulted a woman in his home in cheltenham which is within montgomery county a year earlier. Castor Twenty sixteen hearing right because eventually cosby was indicted and convicted Caster said i didn't think at the time that the case was winnable and that i cut a plea deal with with cosby and that deal was. I would decline to press criminal charges on the assurance that cosby would not plead the fifth during any civil suit by the woman. The enquirer then notes. There was no evidence of any written or oral agreement presented which didn't sit well with the judge. In that case who determined casters testimony to be not credible and inconsistent. And then bruce castor. The president's impeachment lawyer later sued kospi's victim survivor claiming as he was running for office offices that she was trying to interfere with his bid for re election and that case The enquirer notes quote went nowhere and of quote so not just the da that declined to indict bill cosby. But somebody who it is reasonable to infer lied about having cut a deal to protect the victim and then later when the victim contradicted him in the midst of one of his perennial campaigns. He's run for office like a dozen times. He loves the spotlight. Caster sued bill cosby's victim. That seems way more scumbag e than you get out of your national media reporting set seems exactly as scumbag is i would expect for somebody. Defending trump at this time fair enough precisely that amount of scumbag. Just i'm not counting your point. I'm just saying. I wanna point out. Chris murphy in a senator chris murphy of connecticut in describing donald trump's defense says if they do try to bring into evidence these conspiracy theories it's going to happen in an adversarial setting where the house managers can rebut. I think it'll be really embarrassing to have a real time rebuttal of all this nonsense. My guess continued murphy is that his defense is going to be an s show and the only question is what kind of s show. We'll be it is rare that i cannot quote acidic. Us senator on the show Fear of jeopardizing our clean rating on itunes but many different kinds of s shows. Are there a different vintages of s show. So what kind of an s show is this. Let me go very quickly. There are the single count indictment. It was short and so the president's answer is Eight pages long and it's terrible like it's it's bad for defending the president right so the first paragraph denies that the impeachment is valid Because donald trump is no longer the president quote since the forty fifth. President is no longer president. The clause shall be removed from impeachment on office. Four is impossible for the senate to accomplish and thus the kurt pre proceedings before the senate is void benicio as alesia nomi. Yeah lawyers patently contrary to the plain language of the constitution. They're only two problems with this argument right. The first is the senate's already voted. Fifty five to forty five. Yes it is and the second is it does not run contrary to the plain language of the constitution. That let me read that language for you. Article one section three says judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further then to removal from office comma and disqualification to hold enjoy office of honor profit or trust them in the united states. that's a conjunction right like. That's not an if then statement that says there are two things that we can do in judgments of impeachments. We can remove you and we can disqualify you. There is absolutely nothing in the text. That says we have to remove you in order to disqualify you and as we've talked about previous of opening arguments the fact that they have pursued impeachments against officials. No longer in office strongly suggests that that reading is not tenable. Yeah you have a great argument as long as no one's ever been impeached after they're out of office again. Let's just check that they have been okay so you've got it. Yeah paragraphs two three say so paragraph to was about three of the fourteenth amendment and again They just reiterate he's not the president so there's no jurisdiction paragraph four is about inciting violence and the response by the president's legal team is It is admitted that the forty fifth president after the november election exercised his first amendment right under the constitution to express his belief that the election results were suspect since with very few exceptions under the convenience guys of covid nineteen pandemic safeguards. I am not. This is one hundred percent. Bruce and joe wrote this right. Like i've heard covid referred to as convenient. It's been anything but convenient. Yeah bruce david wrote this so under the convenient guise of covid. Nineteen pandemic quote safeguards state's election laws and procedures were changed by. Local politicians are judges without the necessary. Approvals from state legislatures slight rabbit trail on that away. Four sixty points you to the myriad court cases in which the trump administration tried to make these arguments and lost right. These are terrible terrible arguments. We read you at length from the pennsylvania supreme court that said I don't know like maybe we should have lots more safeguards but like that's a job for the legislature to figure out. Guess what they did. And the fact that you don't like it is not mean. We get to rewrite that for you. Going back to bruce and david they say insufficient evidence exists upon which a reasonable jurist could conclude that the forty fifth president statements were accurate or not and therefore. He denies that they were false. Yeah that says you cannot prove that the election wasn't faked at the election wasn't stolen. I m thinking we can prove that so yeah paragraph four right there right after saying the first three paragraphs. Just repeat the legal argument. That says you don't have jurisdiction to bring this case the first argument the president raises is. Oh and by the way. I really did win the election. I wanted it in a landslide. And you can't prove. I didn't You're not a lawyer. If i whip up an angry mob that goes and kills. Several people and storms. The capital is the burden of proof on the state to show that the election wasn't stolen. Is that really legally how that works. We are going to get to his specific response to that one. But that's part of the hercules. Yes right a reasonable jurist would not have sufficient evidence to conclude that those statements were accurate. Or not yeah again. He led an insurrection. It doesn't even if he were right. You'd the court is where you would solve that you've got through the legal process. You don't start an insurrection. And then we double down because paragraph five repeats. The president's claim of we won this election. We wanted by a landslide. That's an actual quotes and the response. One sentence to the extent of hermit five alleges that trump's opinion is factually in error. The president denies this allegation. Okay you're you're welcome to deny objective reality but not sure how far that's going to get you. A paragraph six was about his statement of. If you don't fight like hell you're not gonna have a country anymore and Bruce and david say it is denied that that phrase had anything to do with the action at the capitol as it was clearly clearly about the need to fight for election security in general. Yeah that's what they're saying. That's how you're you interpret that not if you don't fight like hell ad run down the street and burned shit and steal a podium. You won't have a country anymore. Now that would be you know. An impermissible Inference to draw from that from that statement and then there's a bit that. I do kinda like throwing ted cruz under the bus. That's like and you know. I mean congress was the one that challenge some of the certifications so this is kind of on them. And i'm like well. This is the first good point. That you've made bruce paragraphs seven is about brad referenced. Burger and the response is it is admitted that trump spoke with reference burger and other parties secretary referenced burger or somewhat at his direction quote syrup tissue recorded the call and subsequently made it public. That's true georgia's a one party consent state so surreptitiously is a is. A needlessly prejudicial adjective. Anybody can record a televised a telephone conversation in georgia And i would love for them to call. Brad raffin burger so he can say yeah. I recorded this. 'cause i was worried the president was going to do exactly what he did which was come out in public and lie about having talked me the next day so i told him i told the guy who we recorded it that we weren't going to release this unless the president started attacking us which he did in twitter the very next day then substantively they say it is denied that the word find right as in. You've got to go out and find me. The votes was inappropriate in context. As president trump was expressing his opinion that if the evidence was carefully examined one would quote. Find that you have many. That aren't even signed. And you have many that are forgeries. It is denied. The president trump threatened secretary ravensburger so then paragraph eight is some legal stuff and then they raise some legal defenses at the end. This is kind of like an affirmative defense section and again. These are legal arguments that they're trying to throw at the wall. There's the no jurisdiction there is. This is a bill of attained under which is a troy. St- repulsively stupid argument. Yeah bills of attained are like. I can't even citizen level stuff. This is almost sovereign citizen level stuff. Ability cinder is if i go to congress and i say okay i want you congress to pass a law preventing thomas smith sacramento california from doing x. That's a bill of attained her as as pertains to you particularly Bill of attained or law. I have looked this up in other context even when it has been the case that a particular bill has had the effect of only affecting one party courts have declined to strike that down as a bill of a tender. This is a terrible argument. There's the argument that everything. He said whipping the crowd up into a frenzy was was protected. Speech and then the fifth argument and this the last one. I'm gonna talk. There's other stuff there's a bit about. How if the chief justice doesn't sit than it's not a real impeachment. We've already talked about why that arguments nonsense But paragraph five is whole areas because remember their argument. Is you brought this too late. And he's no longer in office anymore or in the alternative paragraph five quote the house of representatives deprived trump due process of law in rushing to issue the article of impeachment by ignoring its own procedures and precedents going back to the mid nineteenth century the lack of due process included but was not limited to its failure to conduct any meaningful committee review or other investigation engage in any full and fair consideration of evidence in support of the article as well as the failure to conduct any full and fair discussion by allowing the forty fifth president's position to be heard in the house of representatives exit. This is i get. I cannot stress this enough. I'm reading this word for word from bruce and david's brief quote no exigent circumstances under the law were present excusing the house of representatives rush to judgment end of quote. I mean i can't parody that any better than it is like. How dare you bring this against the former president and so soon to feel like. That's not a good legal argument. Andrew no yeah like. I look used to arguing in the alternative right like you can say you can do that all the time i wanna be. I wanna make that clear but like the you have no jurisdiction because he's not the president and also like why didn't you wait. Six months is just. I all i can say is i would not want to have to defend that position in front of the united states senate so there you go By the time you hear this we will be teeing up for trial next week. We'll get to see how that unfolds. I think brad burgers going to be a witness other folks. Daniel goldman Thinks there won't be witnesses. I know that there's kind of a rush to get this done As early as possible. And get onto the the the business of governing the country but But i think it's really important to get this right. And i think it's worth reminding people that you know not only do we have a president that doesn't care at all about the rule of law or democracy but but his actions resulted in people being killed and that ought to for something day go. There's your guide to the president's answer and impeachment. You can't prosecute because i'm not the president and also you did this you rush to judgment. It was too fast. And i was just saying words. And by the way The election really was stolen from me in the words of one prohibited connecticut senator. Chris murphy this going to be an s show. Yeah just waiting to find out which varietal of s showed. It is thank you. And now it's time to thank our new patrons over on patriot dot com slash enjoying all the goodies. We have the qna. The patriot qna. 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I'm sure find another pork test to us to continue the parking but for now the final question was protest. We've got. Morgan stringer as associate. How you doing morgan. I'm doing good. I'm dreading the gore exam again. I'm i'm having flashbacks. I'm having yeah either. You get it right and that's great or you get it wrong and we move forward with our legal proceedings against andrew for parking the test. It's a win win for you. Who yeah i. I don't see this as a win win. I know i'm going to get this all right. Well this is a little preview for tuesday's episode when you're gonna come on and talk about robin hood and game stop and all that stuff but for now we've got to face this final question andrew. Here we go all right. Thomas morgan a woman was walking across the street when she was struck by a vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed as she was lying on the pavement dying she. She told she told a bystander. Who was at her side quote. I know i'm dying. I wanna tell you before. I die that i saw my neighbor steal the madonna. Painting from the museum then died. Wow in a civil suit by the museum against the neighbor for conversion. Is the woman statement to the bystander. Admissible a yes. As an excited utterance be yes as a dying declaration see no because it would violate the neighbors sixth amendment right of confrontation or d- no because it is inadmissible hearsay liz. At least a short question. It'd be easy to be wrong faster. No i think. I should be able to have a chance at this one. Yes doesn't excited utterance. No i'm eliminating a that doesn't seem right. Be yeses a dying declaration. That's honestly that's front runner for me. See no because it would violate the neighbors six amendment right of confrontation. I mean that that's an argument against so that would be an argument against any kind of hearsay. Like thing where the person dies and we know that that's not sustainable and d- no it is an inadmissible hearsay i think this is pretty solidly between beardie. I'm pretty confident. That's either a dying declaration or it's not going to be admissible because it's hearsay the see no because it would violate the neighbors. I think that's a that's an attractive distracter. I don't think that's And i think that's the kind of the reasoning behind it. But so i'm pretty solidly between bendy and i'm pretty sure they andrews told that a dying declaration is a hearsay exception. So i'm going be final. Answer all right morgan. How do you think i did. So as i recall from evidence claus and from my many studying of the hearsay exceptions a dying declaration. Which you know. I have never had this come up before in a situation ever but i believe that has to be related to the circumstances of the death so if she had been hit by a car and she was lying on the pavement dying and then she had said. Oh my god. That guy in the nevada nevada plate just ran me over. And then you die. Then that would be a dying declaration. But i would say god. This is inadmissible hearsay because yeah six amendment right of confrontation that deals with yeah criminal matters and excited utterance. It's never an excited utterance. That's your fish attorney giving me tips for the future. It's never an excited utterance. Got it now even though they do love to. I love this detractors. And the bar exam. This is something that you would see. Is they put in an exclamation point to like. Oh yes. that's an excited utterance. This person was excited when they said this. So it's one of those okay so you're going with d. Yes yeah. I i was trying to be fast because we're out of time but i agree with your okay now that you've said i was worried that like if it needed to be about the guy who hit her with a car versus the The just testimony about a neighbor said. Yeah okay. I think i probably got this one wrong. 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"Live from NPR news. I'm Korva Coleman. The Labor Department released its latest report on. April's unemployment rate this morning. It rose to a shocking fourteen point seven percent last month well over. Twenty million jobs were lost chief economist. Diane swonk of Grant Thornton says the true jobless picture in the United States still isn't clear. Actually it's a little less than I expected. But it's hard for the government to capture all of what we lost in the last month. They did do some adjustments to what we call the birth and death rate of firms to try to capture that. But we know actually. This is still an undercount of the workers who lost their jobs. The number of Americans who used to work full time but were forced into part-time positions rose to almost eleven million people last month. The federal government has spent more than two hundred billion dollars on direct payments to Americans for Corona virus relief but some recipients include Americans who died as long as two years ago. Npr's Tim Mack has more as a result of NPR's reporting on Wednesday on this issue. A bipartisan group of lawmakers is demanding answers from the treasury secretary in Iras Commissioner. The letter is led by Democratic senator. Tom Carper and congresswoman cherry boost. Us as well as Republican senator. John Kennedy and Congressman Greg Gianforte. They WanNa know how many deceased Americans received krona virus relief payments and what steps the federal government is taking to recover the money? Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has said that the payments were in error and should be voluntarily returned before a week issued no guidance as to how following days of inquiries and the publication of NPR's report on Wednesday the IRS release guidance on how to return improper payments to the deceased. That guidance is available at irs.gov. Tim Mack NPR news Washington. George officials have arrested two white men in the shooting death of an unarmed black man earlier this year. The Georgia Bureau of Investigations says there may be additional arrests from member station W. Abe. Jim Berra's has more Gregory McMichael and his son Travis are charged with murder and aggravated assault in the February shooting. Death of a Ahmad Armory. The men who are white told local police. They thought Aubrey was the Georgia. Bureau of Investigation in a news release says the suspects confronted rb to firearms and during the encounter. Travis McMichael shot and killed The unarmed twenty five year old. Although the shooting happened more than two months ago it's only after a video surfaced and went viral this week that state investigators launched their inquiry for NPR news. I'M JIM BERRIES IN ATLANTA ON WALL. Street the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up two hundred eighty three points or more than one percent. The Nasdaq is up. Eighty five points you're listening to. Npr News France celebrated the seventy fifth anniversary of the ending of World War Two in Europe today without the usual crowds pomp. Npr's Eleanor Beardsley reports. A sparse ceremony took place in Paris with President Emmanuel Macron and a small number of military officials who all kept their distance. The ceremony began with President Micro laying a wreath at the statue of General Charles de Gaulle. He then lit the flame on the tomb of the unknown soldier. Under the Arc de Triumph. A military fortezza says only sheer ceremony marking the seventy. Fifth Anniversary of Nazi Germany's surrender was to be a grand one in the presence of some of the last surviving soldiers and resistance but the corona virus change that the Paris ceremony macron was to have flown to Moscow to watch the military parade on Red Square with President Vladimir Putin that too was cancelled after signing a special memorial book under the Army Twelve. Macaroni rubbed his hands with Gel without handshakes the ceremony and did quickly eleanor. Beardsley NPR news. Paris president trump is expected to lay a wreath this hour at the world. War Two memorial in Washington. He's to be joined by eight. War Two veterans the National Weather Service warns a low pressure system is bringing cold. Arctic air to the south. It's expected to bring record. Low temperatures and even snow to the Upper Midwest and New England Interior. Parts of New England should expect wet snow this weekend. I'm KORVA COLEMAN NPR news.
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Eddie Murphy | No Republicans Voted for Biden's $1.9 Trillion COVID-19 Relief Bill: A Closer Look
"Stop her engines in sales. Slap lines off the scarves. The rebels below deck sailing yacht flowing into croatia. Were captain glenn takes command of a first class new crew. We've got a great team. And i think we're gonna knock out of the park with all hands stretched to the limit or be. The first snapped come sail away below deck sailing yacht every monday night nine only on bravo. Set your dvr. Now what's going on everybody. Chemin doug smith alongside we'll lowery welcoming us beyond the fairway golf channels newest weekly podcast. Not only are. We asked me to listen to with what we want you to hear us wherever you get your pocket. The senate on saturday past president biden's one point nine trillion dollar coronavirus relief package which includes a fourteen hundred dollar stimulus checks. Go out and buy yourself something. Nice like november's rent from thirty rockefeller plaza in new york city lease. Enjoy this podcast. Edition of late. Night with seth meyers on. Today's show steph chats with eddie murphy but first a closer look not a single. The public voted for historic one point. Nine trillion dollar cova relief. Bill passed by the senate this weekend. In fact republicans spent most of the weekend trying to derail it while. Still whining about dr seuss for more on this. It's time for closer. Look the past. Few months offered a deeply revealing look at the state of american democracy. In the course it could take over the next few years. Without major reforms on the one hand we saw a political faction which represents a minority of american voters. Try to overturn an election. They lost and then so a violent insurrection interfere with the lawful counting of electoral votes. In then about two months later we saw fifty senate democrats who represent about forty one million more americans than the fifty senate republicans vote to deliver one of the largest rescue bills in history which has been massively popular in poll after poll and not a single republican join them in the senate or in the house. They were too busy doing like this by doctors. I am sam. Sam i am. Do you like green eggs and ham. I do not like them semi m you do not like them say so you say try them try them and you may say i. Green eight am i. Do i them. Sam i am. I do so like grenades and ham. Thank you thank you sam. I am joy your debt. Well i can now not at that performance. There's nothing cringe here than watching a grown adult in a suit re dr seuss to an empty room with no children around so that the fox news version of reading rainbow reading rain blows this. Is what a hostage. Video would look like if barney was the kidnapper serious stockholm syndrome. When you get kidnapped by barney. You're still mad when you get rescued. You don't understand. I love him. He loves me. Most importantly green eggs and ham isn't cancelled goober on amazon's bestseller lists. Thanks to all your whining. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out the sues people did this just to move more product. No one's buying our books. Say we're pulling them for racism. I am the shelves knowing cancelled. Anything the copyright holder voluntarily withdrew six books from publication because of racist imagery and language the books include titles like the cats quiz and the delegates pool. Which i'm guessing is where steve bannon drowned when it comes to fox news in the republican party. Their brand is overreaction. Take their feigned. Outrage over the muppet show. Disney decided to add a disclaimer. In front of an episode with a confederate flag among others it's fox news fox nuance so they act like kermit. The frog was thrown in an unmarked van. Never to be seen or heard from again you can still see the episode and just to show you cancel. Culture isn't real it stars johnny cash. Who shot a man in reno. She has to watch him die. No second reason anyway. The point is this is what are two major political factions. I decided to spend their time on once trying to deliver a massively popular relief. Bill that includes direct payments expanded child unemployment benefits and funding for vaccinations and another is holding story. Time for ghost children in a library of the damned trying to overturn the election and trying to prevent people from voting in the next one. The tidal wave of anti voting legislation unleash by republican state. Legislatures over the past. Few weeks has gotten so insane. The georgia republicans have proposed a series of bills that would among other things target black voters ban. No excuse to absentee ballots. Rollback sunday voting and ban. What is known as line warming. The practice of volunteers provide water snacks chairs and other assistance to voters in line. Holy trying to ban voters from having water snacks and chairs publicans wanna to turn voting in one of those extreme radio station contests where whoever goes. The longest subpoena gets to backstage passes to aerosmith concert. If the gop had their way there'd be one polling place in every state open for like three hours a week and instead of a school it would be at the end of a american ninja warrior style obstacle. Course if you don't bring three forms of id you'll get knocked off the platform by giant foam hand. Also i love the party of freedom wants to make it illegal to give someone a snack. Cancelling snacks quick. Get kevin mccarthy on youtube so we can read the ingredients on the pack orios. Unbleached enriched flour canola oil or palm. Oil enjoy your day. I guess in the gop as american voters aren't allowed to drink water unless it's from delegates pool so that's the central story of our political culture at the moment. One coalition is becoming increasingly deranged. An extreme anti democracy and the other is still committed to competent governance. And look. that doesn't mean this. Bill is perfect far from it for one thing. The bill keeps the expanded unemployment benefits at three hundred dollars rather than the original four hundred dollars. Democrats at aim and it says something to expire by labor day deal forest by moderate democrat. Joe manchin for reasons. No one seems to understand on either side of the aisle when asked what mansions issue was is fellow. Moderate democrat jon tester said. I don't know a really. Don't republican shelley moore capito. Said i have no idea what he's doing. Cool because that's what you want in the senate that split fifty fifty a wild card. So i know that photo right. There was taken just as mansion. Found out he was a democrat. Oh man west. Virginia who good luck to me. It's weird to hear senators talking about one of their colleagues. The way baseball announcers talk about a streaker and now is wrestling. The t-shirt gun away from the philly fanatic. Do you know what he's doing a really don't either. We're all getting t shirts. We're gonna see a man get his nuts. Tasers off a fifty fifty split means all the democrats stick together. You can't have one guy splintering off the last minute. It's like an escape room where everyone's focused on the clue hidden under the genie's lamp and one guy's like i'll bet i can just kick this door down. Devin can you just use your brain for once Ways these quads. Thank you then. There's a fact that a group of democratic senator is an independent angus king split off and joined republicans in voting down proposal to raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour which is widely popular in polls it something president biden campaign on one member of that group arizona. Senator kirsten cinema has gotten a lot of criticism for the enthusiastic thumbs down. She gave the bill on the senate floor. Like a judge on. America's got talent after an eight year old bombs. Doing stand up. Sorry tyler but the nineties called. They want their joke format back. Let's not lose sight of the senators from safe democratic seats like chris coons and tom carper in delaware. Voted it down for no reason other than they don't like it on policy grounds. I mean what's wrong with you guys. You're not going to face any serious republican opposition. You still siding with them. Watching these guys like watching lebron play defense against himself by the way of playing defense against himself as the only way he'll ever get called for a foul. I'm just kidding. I love him. And i want him to be my friend with all that said it's important not to understate the truly seismic nature of this bill and all the incredible good it will do for millions of poor and working class americans for one thing. It's way bigger than the two thousand nine stimulus. And that's a good thing because the two thousand nine stimulus wasn't nearly enough. This bill sends about three hundred and fifty billion dollars in state and local governments to keep services running save pensions and schools and public transit and keep people employed at sends out direct payments to about eighty five percent of americans and expands unemployment benefits in child benefits. One study suggested that the bill will reduce poverty by lifting. Nearly thirteen million americans out of it and that child poverty would be reduced by more than half meanwhile for a family of four with one working parent one who remains unemployed because childcare constraints the benefits could total more than twelve thousand dollars but what about the tax credit for high earners us s. corporations to buy fine art for their catamaran's who will think of the catamaran's anyway. The point is this is a flawed. But we really good bill. That delivers desperately needed help to the people who need it. Most on a scale it's necessary to make an actual difference in the economy and people's lives and that of course means republicans did everything they could to derail it with bull like texas senator ted cruz. Who offered an amendment to stop the checks from going undocumented immigrants. even though the bill doesn't do that anyway and he was immediately rebuffed by illinois. Senator dick durbin. Mr president moments ago. The democrats in this chamber just voted to send fourteen hundred dollar. Stimulus checks to murderers rapists and child molesters incarcerated in prison this amendment before us today provides that the stimulus checks should not go to illegal aliens in this country. Showed your money. Should taxpayer money be set. Fourteen hundred dollars to every illegal alien in america. Mr president the statement of the senator from texas is just plain false false. Let me be clear undocumented. Immigrants do not have social security numbers and they do not qualify for stimulus. Relief checks period. And for you to stand up there and say the opposite is just a rile people up over something. That's not true. Will for a question. It is not true and we know what's going on. They want to be able to give speeches. Say the checks go to undocumented people a cruises so bad of this. He can't even be settled about his fearmongering. Democrats voted to send stimulus checks to murderers rapists child molesters chunkys jason stena mirrors freddy krueger's and quotas second i love is sociopathic little chocolate. The end their millions out of work and poverty facing food insecurity and it's also funny to him or maybe just remembering when he grabbed the morocco's away from a mariachi at the senior frogs. Cancun so democrats stuck together to fend off. Gop stonewalling and passed a historic relief. Bill that could not come into more curious time. We're currently what may well be a crossroads in the pandemic. there's lots of good news but also some bad news. Vaccinations are accelerating at previously unthinkable pace with nearly three million doses administered on saturday alone case fallen as dramatically as they ever have since the peak in january but also now seem to be plateauing at a stubbornly high number of sixty to seventy thousand per day which leaves more than enough virus circulating from one more deadly outbreak before summer yet. Several states are racing to prematurely lift mask. Mandates are open up entirely from texas mississippi alabama and even connecticut where the mask mandate will remain in effect but capacity limits will be lifted on retail restaurants gyms. Why would you lift capacity on. Jim's the whole business model for gyms the people join them. And then don't go. It's just a key fob. That cost one hundred bucks a month to carry around. There should be capacity limits on jim's even when there isn't a pandemic no one wants to change into running shoes right next to one of those weirdly jacked eighty year olds air. Drying is not bad. Things happen when. I'm putting away with stanton space grandpa. Now's not the time to take our foot off the gas. Just hunker down and it's been the next month or two crushing this thing combined with ramped up vaccinations. We could have potentially great summer. Think about a week. Enough block parties neighbourhood barbecues street fairs. Do you remember street. Fairs in new york. You'd be in a cab and rush heading your apartment. And all of a sudden the road closed and you'd say street fairs. We can have that back soon and yet if you express any caution or hesitation all about opening up too quickly in the hopes that we'll be able to crush this thing by summer fox news. The same people who spread lies about everything for masks to social distancing to lockdowns to the cova death toll to vaccines to scam. Miracle cures had the gall to accuse you of being pro pandemic. We might be out of the pandemic by summer medically. We'll see how long it will take us to get out of the pandemic politically dr siegel. Thanks so much for telling us about this. New report will great well. There's plenty of people that want that pandemic to continue but it is not us extra heavy. Exactly nobody wants this godforsaken pandemic going along. We've all been trapped inside for a year. Forget going to gyms movie theaters. I'd give you anything to be on a packed train right now without air conditioning getting crushed on one side by guy with a bike and the other side by with lizard on his shoulders. This is the central story of our politics right now. One political coalition for all its faults is focused on actually governing and the other is become unmourned from reality and field entirely by imagine cultural grievances over everything from children's books to the muppets and with a few exceptions. Republicans have made the conscious decision to lean into that. They've made the cynical calculation that sticking with a racist authoritarian criminal who sowed insurrection. To overthrow democracy is the path to power senator. Lindsey graham told axios last night. He's trying to harness the energy of the trump movement. there's something about trump. there's a dark side and there's some magic they're trying to do is just harnessed the magic to me. Donald trump is sort of a cross between jesse helms ronald reagan barnum and that sounds like a good combination. You who else are you going to include. John gotti and java the hut also. What do you mean you. In a harness. The magic he sounded like a regional theater director. China whip your cast into shape for production of our town. Come on people. You're supposed to practice these dance numbers on your own time. You need to stop and harness the magic or else. My mom's going to keep telling me. I wasn't cut out for broadway. At least i have dreams meemaw majority of house. Republicans voted to overturn the november election results. And not a single one of them voted to fund vaccinations and said an urgently needed relief to the american people amid a pandemic an economic crash. That simple fact should tell you everything you need to know about the state of our politics. Whatever their flaws. The democrats message to voters this. Do you like checks. Do you like unemployment benefits. Do you like money for children. Schools vaccines in pensioners and the republicans message to voters. Is you like green eggs and ham. This has been a closer look. Hey late night. With seth meyers fans. Hope you've been enjoying today's episode. We'd like to ask for your help with the show. So we'd appreciate you taking our short survey. We'd like to learn a little bit more about our listeners so that we can get advertisers. That are more relevant to you. Just visit pod listener dot com slash late night to take the five minute survey. It's completely anonymous and it'll really help. The show. just visit pod listener dot com slash late night to take the survey that's pod listener dot com slash late night. Thanks it really helps. We are so excited to welcome our first guest tonight. Who is an oscar nominated and emmy award winning actor in comedy. Legend news hit films. Include trading places. Beverly hills cop the nutty professor and shrek. You reprises his role as prince. Akeem jaffer in the highly anticipated film. Coming to america which is streaming on amazon prime video. Now please welcome to the show. The one the only eddie murphy. How are you eddie. Yousef absolutely thrilled to have you here. Thank you so much i know. It seems like a million years ago mostly because there was a full audience in the studio and thank god for that. But you did go back and you hosted. Snl an incredibly long break. And i just wonder how quickly to come back at muscle memory kick in for what a week. Snl with like it. Does you know from doing that. Show of the. It's such a grind. Once you leave there. I found that thirty six years later. You can go back and you fall right back into. It was surreal like going back to high school. This film one of the most wonderful things about it is seeing people who are in the first movie but it was especially exciting for me to see the new characters you welcomed into the film. I'm very good friends with leslie. Jones league jones leslie jones in this movie right leslie jones so funny i mean i said look. It's always great to kill in a movie which you did. But you killed in a movie alongside eddie murphy and that just must be such a thrill for how long have you been aware of leslie For years i saw leslie years ago in like an f. Two hours a comedy club like downtown. La with some spot that was maybe like fifteen people were in. It was like four o'clock in the morning. And what i saw was she was. She turned out. She's always like. I wish you don't remember that show. She killed was like after hours place and that sort the laugh factory so i was aware of her as i mean in a way. You're sort of putting together a superhero team when you cast these movies because it strikes me that you have this multigenerational cast and it must be tesa viewers from when you were a kid. You know for example. When you have james earl jones and then obviously younger actors who you've obviously seen thought they're going to be great in this absolutely absolutely. I did a movie years ago. Harlem nights with richard pryor and redd foxx. That was another one. Those movies with was older generation in a new comedies. Robin harris of great comic pathways in the movies. Well and my brother. Charlie and yet i kind of get a kick out of you know connecting with the older ones with the younger one to beat in the middle. I really saw it was posted online. By netflix's it was. It was sitting hall telling a story about richard. Pryor once a bring you up on stage. I believe at the comedy star was always nice. It was always super nice to me. Rich always super nice and he but he brought you on stage of the story and then he just sat on the edge of stage. While you did your set was that intimidating or was it thrilling. That was thrilling turned out. Who's like he's sitting. There was like to show off our watch. This just making you laugh is was. You know amazing. So no wasn't intimidated at all. What are your daughters. Plays a princess. Nfl munish beautiful baby girl. Bella your kids. Is she the only one who's shown sort of a taste for being on camera so far we'll know all of my kids and most of my kids are are acting or writing or orch arts. That's really nor can you blame them. To turn certainly turned out very well for you. I have a i have more questions. We'll be right back with eddie murphy after this when did it occur to you. Hey we have to go back. We have to do a sequel to this movie enough times past. Maybe about six years ago. We had no idea we were going to make this movie. When we finished the original one it was like the story ended in like they live happily ever after then. The movie over the years became like the only one of my movies. It became like a cult movie with as like audience of people that watched all the time. you know. Some people get dressed up on. Halloween is a place that chuck that turns restaurant that turned himself into a mcdowell's restaurant on halloween in sexual chocolate malted on on the menu. That's eight movie is a cult following if we can figure out a way to connect those dots we could. There's an audience for this picture. That was about six years ago Doug marrone you are sitting have aged great but it's really fun to see the barbershop characters because none of them have aged day. No they older. Watch the original movie you see. They look much older. Okay who look like. They're in their like early sixties. And now they look like they're in their early nineties. One of the things that must be so time consuming as is sitting in getting into the make up like that but the freedom of playing those extra characters. It must be worth the time you sit in the makeup chair. It's the it's the most rewarding thing when you do those and it works and it's it's funny in the best thing. My favorite thing is a two people. Watch those movies and they don't realize you know us doing those characters because that's in the marketing when the movie first comes out once it's a ram people don't know they don't read the credits ages see it. You don't even realize and that's my favorite when they don't know that it's made you know the tunnel. I'm jewish guy. what are you talking about. I'm the jewish guy. No i mean this is a free idea. I want to because as you talk about playing multiple characters. I think the oscars should start doing something where they give out an award every year for a movie that is twenty five years old that the oscars admits now deserved an oscar. And i feel like a next year. The nutty professor should get the first of these. Because i just feel like it represents everything that movies are supposed to be and when i think about those dinner table scenes and being lucky enough especially now when people aren't seeing movies in theaters with a bunch of people like i remember being in the theater like collectively laughing like that and And so that's my pitch to the oscars you get the oscar. You deserve for that movie. No thank you so much one of my favorites too i. It's the amazing thing is just the rhythm and pacing of scenes where you realize. Oh it's just you in five different chairs in the fact that you have to figure that out. I mean obviously a great deal that happens in editing but when you actually see the finished product are you also even though you were there at different times. Are you blown away as well absolutely. Yeah and like. I said it's a it's rewarding but it's thankless because it didn't even if it's done really really well you can't see all the work that went into the so like a scene around the table that took you know two weeks to shoot and that whole sequence winds up being you know three four minutes long in the audience isn't thinking about any of that stuff it's rewarding thankless. It was worth it. I wanna tell you was worth. I read that a originally tracy. Morgan was gonna play Your son in this film until you guys realize that yes. You only have about a seven or eight year age difference and the downs. The third drafted a script was still right. Tracy as my son and we started going house tracy could. Would you believe tracy was me and leslie and tournament to the. I liked it in a movie where there's so much that's unbelievable. That's the one Journey people aren't willing to make believe there's a fictional african nation. But they're like. I won't go over that wesley. Snipes is also a really funny in. This movie sleaze amazing. This move i did. I did a movie Last year with him a dolemite is my name and he was hysterical and and a wonderful actor. We had a really great screen chemistry. So i went right into this movie with him. In a so happy. I originally was gonna play. General izzy in a was like wesley. Snipes will be so much better and he really really funny and and the singing just a green act. There are you know. I don't give away too much. But i mean it is really fantastic. The number of cameos the number of conic people Not just from The nineties but from the last fifty years and at this point is it pretty easy for you to pick up the phone and say to someone like morgan freeman. I have a very good part view in this movie. Would you do me a solid Is that it. Is that happened pretty simply or or is it hard. He was like we would glue. Look more going to do it. And we went went through the agents and all that stuff and then when he did it we jumped around and danced wasn't easy. I'm glad i'm glad to know it still. There's still people out there. That are hard for eddie murphy to get. We didn't think of it as being easy we thought we were the luckiest people everybody said. Yes well i can only imagine what it was like being on set considering how enjoyable was to watch it. I've got one thing. I'll cut it out if you don't want answer it my friend. My friend neal brennan. He's friends and he told me a story. About how paul mooney tried to beat you up outside of the comedy store mcnutt tried to beat me up first of all public could could never be not even when he was. Yeah in fact most come as far as comics go pretty scrappy. I don't know if i've met a comic that you could at any rate but no. It was an argument. Because i went. They gave me the light. I was at the comedy stowed a mooney in the game. The likes i was going on. That just kept going at home yet in a game of the light that was like first year. Snl now killing. That was like they give me the light. That was only for like ten minutes. Who's who's caboose becoming on. Is it paul mooney Who's paul mooney said. You wanna see me. Money is an hour. When i came up the stage. They were like crazy in a spoon. The spoon was embedded bathroom to comedy stood and he said next time you get on stage off stage. Say mama to went outside the talking. Let moody chain walking upbeat like a excuse me homie. Yes you have routine about up the amityville horror about coast in house. Now say yes he said lab routine very civil. Let me hear your routine hummy. Now's lead new your team in a parking lot. He said that was with john lennon instead. Youtube white man. If i had a knife a gun shoot the both the first and then richard than when richard heard about it. He took mooney and a scone and we took he made them come to the main room of the comedy store. The next night and after hours and apologized. Wow richard made them apologize. He was like you guys are just being meaning that kid does. He's a new hat was jealous. That gel apologetic. Richard made them apologize. Richard was always so nice and then mooney became a great friend in spoon as well but the very first spoons model well. Needless to say. I am glad i asked. Hey thanks so much eddie. Please come back soon. Okay so when when this all safe to come back come check you up bro. We'd really we'd really like that Thank you so much coming to america's currently streaming on amazon prime video late night with seth meyers. Weeknights on nbc. At twelve thirty five eleven thirty five central original music on the late night. Podcast is by the eight g band. Don't forget to follow the hand late night. Set on social media and tell your friends and subscribe to the late night podcast wherever they get their podcasts.
BONUS: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's Victory Speeches
"Good evening good evening. Thank you thank you good evening. So thank you. Good evening so congressman john. Lewis congressman john lewis before his passing wrote. Democracy is not a state it is an act and what he meant was that america's democracy is not guaranteed it is only as strong as our willingness to fight for it to guard it and never take it for granted and protecting our democracy takes struggle. It takes sacrifice but there is joy in it and there is progress because we the people have the power to build a better future and when our very democracy was on the ballot in this election with the very soul of america at stake and the world watching you ushered in a new day for america to our campaign staff and volunteers. This extraordinary team. Thank you for bringing more people than ever before into the democratic process and for making this victory possible to the poll workers and election officials across our can country who have worked tirelessly to make sure every vote is counted. Our nation owes you a debt of gratitude. You have protected the integrity of our democracy and to the american people who make up our beautiful country. Thank you for turning out in record numbers to make your voices heard and i know times have been challenging especially the last several months the grief sorrow and pain the worries and the struggles but we have also witnessed your courage your resilience and the generosity of your spirit for four years you marched and organized for equality and justice for our lives and for our planet and then you voted and you delivered a clear message you chose hope and unity decency science and yes truth you shows joe biden as the next president of the united states and joe is a healer a uniter a tested and steady hand a person who's own experience of loss gives him a sense of purpose that will help us as a nation reclaim our own sense of purpose and a man with a big heart who loves with abandoned. Its his love for jill who will be an incredible first lady. His love hunter and ashley and his grandchildren and the entire biden family. And while i i knew joe as vice president i really got to know him as the father who loved bo my dear friend who we remember here today and to my husband doug and our children cole ella and my sister maya and our whole family i love you on more than i can ever express. We are so grateful to joe and jill for welcoming our family into. There's on this incredible journey and to the woman most responsible for my presence here today. My mother shyamala gopalan harris was always in our hearts when she came here from india at the age of nineteen she may be Didn't quite imagine this moment but she believed so deeply and in america where a moment like this is possible. And so i am thinking about her and about the generations of women. Black women asian. Why latina native american women. Throughout our nation's history have paved the way for this moment tonight women who fought and sacrificed so much for equality and liberty and justice for all including the black women who are often too often overlooked but so often proved they are the backbone of our democracy all the women who have worked to secure and protect the right to vote for over a century one hundred years ago with the nineteenth amendment fifty five years ago with the voting rights act and now in twenty twenty with the new generation of women in our country who cast their ballots and continued the fight for their fundamental right to vote and be heard tonight. I reflect on their struggle their determination and the strength of their vision. To see what can be unburdened by what has been and i stand on their shoulders. And what a testament. It is to joe's character that he had the audacity to break one of the most substantial barriers that exists in our country and select woman as his vice press. But while i may be the first woman in this office i will not be the last because every little girl watching tonight sees that this is a country of possibilities and to the children of our country regardless of your gender our country has sent you a clear message dream with ambition lead with conviction and see yourselves in a way that others may not simply because they've never seen it before but know that we will applaud you every step of the way and to the american people no matter who you voted for i will strive to be vice. President like joe was to president obama loyal honest and prepared waking up every day. Thinking of you and your family because now is when the real work begins the hard work the necessary work the good work the essential work to save lives and beat this epidemic to rebuild our economy so it works for working people to root out systemic racism in our justice system and society to come back the climate crisis to unite our country and heal the soul of our nation and the road ahead will not be easy but america is ready and so are joe and i we have elected a president who represents the best in us a leader the world will respect and our children will look up to a commander in chief will respect our troops and keep our country safe and a president for all americans and it is now my great honor to introduce the president elect of the united states of america joe biden. Mary is downing onto the stage. Security short seventy eight years old determined not to show it right now feeling this moment. Joseph robinet biden junior. Who will be the forty six in the united states fist-bump for these times joe biden and kamala harris. I brought together by joe. Biden's late son bows attorney. General jello kamala harris served. As attorney general california. They work together had a warm relationship test during the campaign and she went on the attack during the first debate but they overcame that and tonight she celebrates being the first woman. Vice president elect of the united states. My fellow americans him. The brought me the dan's delaware. I see my buddy. Tom senator. Tom carper down there. And i think i think senator coons is there and i think the governor's around is that roseanne former governor ruth. Ann minner most importantly my sister's law my sister valerie. anyway close. The people of this nation have spoken delivered a clear victory a convincing victory a victory for we. The people with the most votes ever cast some presidential get in the history of the nation. Seventy four million. I must've been a surprise me tonight. We're seeing all over this nation all cities and all parts of the country. Indeed across the world an outpouring of joy of hope renewed faith and tomorrow bring a better day. I'm humbled by the trust and confidence you placed in me. I pledged to be a president who seeks not to divide but unify doesn't see red states and blue states only sees the united states all my heart with the conference of the whole people to win the confidence of all and for that is what america i believe is about. It's about capable. That's what administration will be all about. I saw this office to restore the soul of america to rebel backbone of this nation the middle class and to make america respected around the world again to united states here at home. It's the either my lifetime. America's have voted for that vision and now the work for making that vision rail. It's a task the task of our time folks as i said many times before jo's husband and i would not be here. What else are love entirely. Support of jill. My son hunter and ask them my daughter and grandchildren and their spouses. And all our family there. My heart josie mama military mom and educator. She's dedicated her life education but tissue to suggest what she does. it's who she is for american educators. Great day for y'all gonna have one of your own in the white house is gonna make a great first lady. I'm so proud of her law. Have the honor fantastic vice president. He just turned from. Commerce makes history as the first war movement first black woman. The first woman from south asia said the first daughter and immigrants ever elected in this country. Top possible in the united states is long overdue. And we're reminded tonight of those who fought so hard for so many years to make this happen once again. America's bent the arc of the moral universe more toward justice coppola. Doug like it or not your family. You become an honorary biden. There's no way out volunteer work. The polls in the middle of a pandemic local elected officials. You deserve special. Thanks from the entire nation campaign team all the volunteers and all gave so much of themselves to make this moment possible. I owe you. I am i owe you everything. All those who support us. I'm proud of the campaign. We built ran. I'm proud of the coalition report together. The broadest most diverse coalition in history. Democrats republicans independents progressives moderates conservatives. Y'all urban suburban rural gay straight transgender latino asian native american. I'm especially those moments especially those moments in this campaign. was that his lowest ebb. The african american community stood up again for me and you. I said at the outset i wanted to represent this campaign to represent represented. Look like america. We've done that now. That's the administration will looked like an act for all those of you who voted for president. Trump i understand the disappointment tonight. I've lost a couple of times myself but now let's give each other a chance. It's time to put away the harsh redder. Lower the temperature. See each other again. Listen to each other gan and make progress we have to stop treating opponents as our enemies they are not our enemies. They're americans their americans. The bible tells us to everything. There is a season time to build time to reap at a time to so and a time to heal. This is the time to heal in american now. This campaign is over. What is the will of people. One is our mandate. I believe it's this. America called upon us to marshal the forces of decency the forces of fairness tomorrow the forces of science and the forces of hope in the great battle of our time the battle control the virus the built prosperity the battle. Secure your family's healthcare. The battle achieve racial justice and root out systemic racism in this country the battle to save our planet by climbing under control battler store decency defend democracy and gave everybody in this country. A fair shot. That's all they're asking for a fair shot. Our work begins with getting covered under control. We cannot repair the economy restore vitality relish. Life's most precious moments hugging our grandchildren. Our children our birthdays weddings graduations. All her mom was matter most to us until we get it under control on monday. I will name a group of lee scientists and experts as transition advisor to help take the biden. Harris code plan converted into an action blueprint. That will start on january. The twentieth twenty one plan will be built on bedrock. Science will be constructed out of compassion empathy and concern. I will spare no effort. None or any commitment to turn around this pandemic folks. I'm a proud democrat. But i will govern as an american president. I work as hard for those who didn't vote for me as those who did let this grim era of deep in america began to end here and now usual democrats and republicans to cooperate with one. Another it's not some mysterious force beyond our control. It's a decision a choice we make and if we can decide not to cooperate then we can decide to cooperate. And i believe that this is part of the mandate given to us from the american people. They want us to cooperate in their interest. And that's the choice. I'll make a call on congress. Democrats and republicans alike to make that choice with me. The american story is about slow yet steadily widening the opportunities in america and make mistake too. Many dreams have been deferred for too long. We must make the promise of the country real for everybody. No matter the rest fe density or the disability folks america has always been shaped by inflection points by moments in time where he made hard decisions about who we are and what we want to be laking in eighteen sixty coming to say the union. Fdr nine hundred thirty two probably seen a beleaguered country. A new deal j. k. And ninety six hundred pledging a new frontier and trump years ago. What barack obama made history told us. Yes we can. We stand at an inflexion for grabbing opportunity to defeat despair to build a nation of and purpose. We can do it. I know we can. I've long talked about the battle for the soul of america. We must restore the soul of america. Our nation's shake by the constant battle between our better angels and are darker stained pulses. Now what president say in this battle matters. It's time for our better. Angels prevail tonight. The whole world is watching america. And i believe at our best america's a beacon for the glow we will not leave we will lead not only by the example of our power but by the power of our example always manager. Hurt me say. I've always believed we can define america in one word possibilities that in america everyone should be given an opportunity to go as far as their dreams god given ability. We'll take you saying. I believe in the possibilities. Good as country. We're always looking ahead ahead known americans freer more just head toward america. Chris jobs with dignity and respect headed america that cures diseases like caches and alzheimer's ahead toward america never leaves anyone behind had never gives up net in this great nation. It's always been a bad bet against america. We're good people. This is the united states america. There's never been anything. Never been anything. We are not able to do what we've done it together. We'll ask the campaign. I began thinking about a him. That means a lot to me and my family particularly might to see somebo captures the faith that sustains made which i believe sustains america and i hope it could provide some comfort and solace the two hundred and thirty thousand americans who've lost a loved one this terrible virus this year marco's out each and everyone of you hopefully lists him gives you solace as well goes like this and he will raise you up on eagle's wings berry on the breadth of dog and make you just sign hike. The sun and hold you in the palm of his hand and now the gathered on incas embark on the work of god and history of called upon us to do with full hearts steady hands with faith in american at each other with love of country. A thirst for justice. Let us be the nation that we know candy. A nation united nations strengthen nation. He'll united states america and gentlemen. There's never we've tried not been able to do so. Remember my grandpa puppy seven. I walked out of his home when i was a kid up in. Scranton say joey keep the fey and our grandmother wants us alive. She'll know joey spread it. Scramming fake god love you all. May god bless and protect our church. Thank you thank you thank you.
Joe Bidens Closest Ally in the Senate, Chris Coons
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Podcast hey everybody. I got a great one today. You know for a change and and you know why. Because i finally got a guest knows how to put two words together. Jesus i've had some inarticulate. People had some extremely good looking guests. But i keep forgetting that This is not a visual medium. It's a podcast. For god's sakes and i finally just figure that out. And and that's a real breakthrough for this podcast so From now on only guests was something very interesting to say or short of an interesting way of saying something. That's just a little less Interesting but today very interesting very interesting. Because i have. Chris coons The junior senator from delaware junior senator. Al junior why. Don't you have the senior senator from delaware. No believe me. You wouldn't want that that. That's tom carper. And look i'm not gonna say anything negative about one of my former colleagues. Why would i do the hat. Let's just say you don't wanna have to listen to tom. Carper for more than two minutes. Okay but chris coons an entirely tirelessly different story and not just because he's probably the us senator closest to joe biden. See delaware. Get it wait a minute. You're thinking i thought joe biden was from scranton scranton pennsylvania. No biden was born in scranton. His dad lost his job in scranton. As the story goes and said joey. I lost my job. Everything's gonna be all right. It's gonna be alright. joe. He don't worry i'm i'm getting out this hell hole in scranton and getting a job in wilmington. Where's wilmington dad. I don't know it's just supposed to be better than scranton anyway. I think that's how the story goes. i i just. I don't have an exactly clear. Because i haven't heard this story enough times. Okay but that's not the point here. Chris coons very close to joe biden and not only that but one of the senate's most knowledgeable leaders on foreign relations extremely knowledgeable Guy on the senate foreign relations committee and That's foreign relations a foreign affairs. Senators have relations not affairs and on top of cova peaking and attendant economic and social problems attending that The president-elect has been thrown a number of curve balls already one in the mideast for even gets there Forget sworn in we think it's he's rallies who killed the top atomic scientists in iran and that is a big deal. This very well may have been a deliberate way to complicate biden. Hand in in that region. And you're not supposed to assassinate people in another country like that And of course that's our country's official policy. We make exceptions. We kill salamone. But he was a military guy and he was killing americans and he was in in iraq. But it's very much our nation's policy not to kill foreign heads of state in in their own country that's our policy and it's Controversial policy people say well. Hey if we had had the chance to kill hitler in nineteen thirty nine. You know when we've done that and that's a good point. Suppose response to that is yeah. We'll the germans could replace hitler with someone a lot worse than him now. I did not mean that that. That's i mean that but you're going to be hearing a great one from delaware. Senator chris coons in in a bid. Wanna talk about Some other former colleagues The republicans i you know i keep in touch with a few of my Republican former colleagues and. I've been texting a few of them. Basically saying come on. You gotta say something. Trump is undermining our country's faith in our system of democracy and these republican secretaries of state of again death threats And it's happening all over the country and it's you gotta say something and you would not believe the bullshit. I am getting from my former republican colleagues on When they text back it'd be one thing if they just right back like i can't say anything. My base is his base and that just be the end of my career. And i'd right. Yeah well you know. Americans have fought and died for our democracy for our system and i have written that To them and then. I don't hear back from them. That's at the end of that and but that's fine You know. I lost the couple of Those guys during the impeachment but The damage that this is doing to our country is irreversible long. We have this pathetic display by the sick sick sick man. I'm talking trump. of course Longest goes on the more. The republican base believes that. This has been rick that the democracy is rick because that's is what he is saying every day. You know twenty sixteen when the russians are faring in our election. They didn't think they're going to defeat. Hillary clinton they didn't think she'd lose. They just assumed she was going to win and they wanted to undermine her and they wonder undermine americans confidence in our system. Donald trump has done that. To an extent the russians could only dream of and these chicken shit. Republicans are doing the russians work for them. Sal before we get the chris. Coons i wanna talk about a couple other things. The runoff in georgia. The stakes are so high there. And i know a lot of you think. Oh well we always lose these runoff in georgia. We always lose and yeah we do. We always have lost them. But you know why because we have the general election in november and then you have this runoff in early january. People don't know they're happening. Everyone knows they're happening in georgia because they can't get away from it. There's been three hundred million dollars spent on ads in georgia and it. People are sick of the ads. So don't don't send any money to anybody who's putting up. Ads send money to the ground game. i have a pack midwest values pac We gave During the the general election A lot of money to the nevada culinary workers because they're the ground operation in nevada and under unite here and they've always been the most effective ground game they're also in arizona they're also in pennsylvania there in philadelphia that got more turn out in philadelphia. Then we'd gotten. When barack obama ran that's how effective they are and they're on the ground there. Four hundred from unite here and they are on the ground in georgia and they're really effective and and by the way they've been on the ground there on the ground in general and during all this covert they did the ground operation. They were very careful. This is what they did. They do not share a car. You're a canvasser for unite. Here you don't share a car with another canvasser. You have your own hotel room. You don't share a hotel room. Not one of these canvassers around. The country got covid. I know what they're doing and they're really effective and possibly a lot of republicans won't show up because they're president is telling them it's all rigged. Isn't that wonderful. Wow what a putz is. What a putz there. I've said it. I know it's going to be controversial calling donald trump pots. So here's how to help unite here in in georgia. Google take back. Twenty twenty verse result will be unite here Their website go to that. And there you'll be able to donate to take back twenty twenty. Don't give money so the more ads. No one wants to see more. As and i know you might be thinking. We always lose these look. This is the last election in the cycle. this is control of the senate and We have to try. And i think we can because this one's very different than any of the other Runoffs and this is about judges. This is about confirmations binds nominees and it's about legislation and it's about our having the majority and setting the agenda in the senate and being able to pass legislation. This is unbelievably important so Please if you're of a mind to do that please do that. And also there's all kinds of stuff to do in the season Their foodbanks People hurting to a little bit later. I feel very emotional about this. We have not had a relief package. People whose covid we're we're finally hearing them talk about doing something and let's hope we do it but this has been an unbelievably hard time for a lot of folks. I wanna talk about a couple of things before we get. The chris coons Biden one but we did not do well down ballot and Are number of reasons for this. One of which is there's just a critical mass of americans republicans and independents. Who just went. We cannot have this guy around for another four years and i was frankly surprised there weren't more That that donald trump at the second most votes of any presidential candidate in our history that that was just scary. And what this is about. And i've talked about. I wrote an op. Ed piece that maybe some of your familiar with about there's two universes of information in our country and we have a lot of people in our country who believed that democrats are blood sucking pedophile. I mean they get their information from a whole different universe. We talked about that. Tim kendall are our last podcast. He's the former facebook executive who actually was in charge of monetize in their system and came on advertising and that's why they're algorithms are designed just to keep people on and the algorithms are smarter than we are than any and they're getting smarter and they have found these pernicious ways to keep you on facebook and part of that with a lot of people is appealing to their prejudices and them weirder and weirder. We're stuff and it's very very very dangerous. That's a big reason. We have this divide. There's other things i want to talk about in in this election. I mean i filed minnesota obviously very closely and biden won by seven points there. But we did that too well down ballot and we lost seats in the state house of representatives and we had only been down to state senators. This is an interesting story I actually invested quite a lot with my pack in that we created a data operation for them which believe me they needed. We are down by two state senate seats. That's all we needed to pick up to. We'd give the governor both houses and to get this crucial legislation through that. We need minnesota. So we're to down. We needed to pick up to. We didn't and here's why in minnesota there are two marijuana parties that have lines on the state ballot because minnesota if you have a statewide candidate in your party who gets five percent or more that gives you a line on the ballot so you have republicans democrats and you have the legalize marijuana party and legalise cannabis party. You have to pro- legalize marijuana parties on the line in minnesota and because they siphoned off votes from dfl's democratic farmer labor party in a couple of races we did not get the majority. We did not pick up. Those two seats were still to down. And because of that minnesota will not pass the next four years. He's a four year. Seats will not pass a legalize marijuana bill because of the to marijuana parties now if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about marijuana. I don't know what does okay. Wow also one last thing There's so much talk about But one last thing. President obama cited a controversy by saying something i think is pretty obvious that de fund the police worked against us and he's gotten some pushback from that and he's right. That is not a good slogan. Believe me i know this. This were very badly for us in In in minnesota in a lot of areas a lot of areas and We don't want to defend the police. I don't think it's a lot of ears. That sounds like that's slogan. I'm not sure if people the slogan but After george floyd the horrific horrendous george floyd murderer the city council in minneapolis said they were going to defend the police now. That sounds like abolishing the police. I don't think there are some people who want to abolish the police but defunding police. You know i used to say that. The difference between republicans and democrats is at our bumper stickers. Always end with continued on next bumper sticker. Well we came up with a really bad bumper sticker defunding. The police and that was used against us nationally. And i think president obama's right in this case at right after that happened We had charles ramsey the former police chief for washington. Dc and for philadelphia Who had headed up president obama's police reform commission which was immediately disbanded by donald trump. There's a lot of ways to reform the police a lot of great ways. And that's i want to go back charles ramsey as a good good one to listen to if you're going to a domestic violence dispute at midnight bring a social worker along who won one cop one social worker but don't send a social worker alone those don't send a cop alone says social worker a cop. There's a whole bunch week in do. He talked about getting rid of the bad apples. 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They released recording of today's presidential daily. Brief people start go rogue there so here it is. I'll play this for you. Mr president elect Four we began. I should warn you that. The presidential daily brief has changed quite a bit since president obama. And you were in the white house sir and We'll have to wait until january twentieth to rise it to your personal preferences so here. We go presidential daily brief november thirtieth two thousand twenty the president donald trump continues to be the most widely admired and feared leader in the world is the smartest toughest and most vero president in our nation's history and has won the admiration and respect to adversaries like great britain and germany and friends like turkey hungary and russia alike. And that's it sir. So biden is going to be inheriting a very different Foreign relations Policy than than he and obama left absolutely one of the great challenges that president-elect biden and vice president-elect harris face is that our relationships with our vital allies have been strained are standing in the world our ability to mobilize the world to act whether it's in response to climate change or In response to threats ranging from north korea to iran to russia has been weakened and our trade relations with the world have been tested and reshaped in ways that i don't think actually serve our security interests or promote our values so there's a very robust agenda of things that the biden harris a foreign policy national security team will have to do and i look forward to supporting them in that important work and of course. This is one area where the chief executive where the president has some running room right as opposed to a lot of other areas that he's going to have to deal with specially if we don't win the runoff seen in georgia historically the president's got the most freedom to act in foreign relations and you know frankly out of all the disruptive things that president trump did or to do the one where he was least successful was in slashing funding For the state department for foreign assistance obviously he increased funding for the defense department And so while he did things that restructured or destabilize. Some of our relationships the resources remain largely there For usa id and for the state department with good leadership with folks who actually believe. In and support our development professionals are diplomats. A i think it's possible for us to revive and sort of restore the capabilities of the state department. Usa id mcc a lot of other organizations critical to our place in the world. Frankly we're going to need that because there's nothing more urgent about our work. Globally and then rebuilding our alliances and helping the world respond to this pandemic. Yeah i'll get to the pandemic second you're on the foreign relations committee and you're ranking on africa and you just brought up. Usa id. And i remember when you lead a code l. I was on the congressional delegation trip to africa that the first thing we saw was a usa. Id project in in senegal right. Yeah we we flew overnight from andrews air force base to the car and then i unwisely without giving us any time to recover we all bundled into a small plane and went up to san louis. The very very north of senegal. It was over one hundred degrees and we spend hours inspecting a a water irrigation sanitation project a large scale water infrastructure project. You were a trooper. But i i do remember you at one point looking at me saying this is the longest day i've ever had you know it's funny because i was not going to bring this up. Yeah we flew all night also. These are not luxurious trips. I think i've slept on the floor. Tried to sleep on the floor of the plane land. And i'm thinking okay hotel you know rest up new really. No no we go on some. What are we went on planes or helicopters some way way far away and listen you can a human being can tour a water project while exhausted in sleepy. I learn that day and Cursed you may be during the trip and then we. It was a great trip though. And i thank you for that was very memorable for me. And for any I remember when we went to ethiopia which is really really far away from senegal or is another eight hour trip. it's sort of the other side of the continent. I i was overly ambitious agenda for this one. Yes yeah. And i remember one day where i was assigned to go out to a village i think it was in a romo village We had set up some clinic for women who were pregnant and and we're doing some good stuff there. And i was visit that and you guys had some official state lunch and we go out there and says Rural village and one of one of the families are made lunch. Made elaborate lunch for me and for any which we've been told don't eat anything and of course i am not going to. They went to a lot of work family. And of course we're going to eat it. We're gonna eat it so we framing. I have this This lovely dinner. I don't like their bread. Their bread is like sponge. It's called in jira and it is. It's an acquired taste. yes it's spongy. But they were wonderful. People were wonderful. We did not get sick. All of you got sick at the official event you got ill. In fact and senator merkley of oregon ha has reminded me of this several times. We were actually north of the city of office of the capital. We were visiting with a group of farmers who had tripled their yield of corn by using amaz Hybrid and they went through this very elaborate ceremony coffee ceremony in our blessed and then they presented us with these ears of corn. To your point we at all been instructed severely not to eat anything that hadn't been cooked in boiled in washington sterilized. And so i made the tragic mistake of biting into the corn and says to me he looked over at me and said okay. Well is doing it. I guess i should. I lost ten pounds. He lost fifteen pounds. I don't think jeff left his hotel room for a day and we had to get on a plane and go on to rwanda It was a memorable weight-loss opportunity but it was also you know frankly a great chance to see the impact that hybrid is having on both ethiopians in america and by the knowing. Laugh harder than man. Franny uptight here distress I actually thought would gun formal Government lunch. Maybe a done that as well but i did not know about the danger you know. Expose yourself to but that's still makes me laugh anyway. So we have this Let's get to more serious stuff is real. It appears we don't know for sure has assassinated a iran's top nuclear scientists. They're not supposed to do that are they. Or do they do. They like consult with us. Wasn't there a meeting between pompeo netanyahu and mvs mohammed bin simon. Just recently well al. According to press reports There was a clandestine meeting between muhammed bin. Salman of saudi arabia the crown prince and prime minister netanyahu. I don't have any insight into what the topics were. But given the recent normalization of relations with the emirates with sudan with bahrain. I would assume that the conversation between netanyahu and mvs was about normalization with saudi arabia. And speaking of that. It's complicated now isn't it. I mean this is a new chapter in the middle east and you know a lot. There's a lot of talk of course about are getting back into The iran nuclear deal. And that's good You know crazy that we got out of it and cetera. But it's complicated. Now right. I mean they have missiles that are very very accurate they attack saudi arabia a couple years ago. took out a lot of its Oil infrastructure and we didn't we didn't respond and tell me a little bit about that that region now. Well the two thousand fifteen iran nuclear deal that's known by its acronym. The jcp away did accomplish. Some significant things Iran destroyed its plutonium reactor at rock They moved outside the country. The vast majority of their enriched uranium stockpile. They decommissioned a whole series of their more advanced centrifuges and they allowed for searching inspections by the i. e. a. and as you know i ultimately supported it although having expressed concerns about their missile program their support for proxies and what might happen as a result of the deal in the three years after iran did not significantly change their behavior in fact if anything they increased their aggressive actions in syria in yemen elsewhere in the region in iraq and in two thousand eighteen. President trump pulled us out of the agreement. Our european partners the three of france germany the uk and the eu are continuing to try and keep the deal alive along with china and russia. The other signatories but iran is now demonstrably. Well outside the deal in terms of how much. They've enriched their upgrading their centrifuges And there's been both this. Recent assassination of their leading nuclear scientists and there was a mysterious bombing or explosion or fire at natanz at the natanz research. Nuclear research facility south of tehran. There is widespread debate in congress and in anticipation of the incoming administration about on what terms we should rejoined the deal and whether or not iran can be expected to or hope to re engage in diplomacy with us. Obviously there's been significant changes in the world. Our relations with our european partners have been strained. And i would think at the very least iran would need to come back into full compliance with the deal for the united states to pursue a diplomatic path. The whole reason for the iran nuclear deal in the first place was to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon and to increase the so called breakout period. The amount of time it would take if they made a decision to just abandon all restraint and raise towards nuclear weapon. How long would it take them at the point where. The deal was being negotiated. It was estimated as less than three months and the deal a- pushed back to a year or more. It's now back down to just a matter of a few months. And so i i think alex nothing else. We have to find a diplomatic path with our partners allies to find an option for how we move forward to constrain iran's support for terrorism its ballistic missile program and its nuclear ambitions tied together and of course the nuclear piece of that. The nuclear deal was not tied to the other stuff because We just felt it was a benefit to mankind for them not to have a nuclear weapon and we were going to continue to have inspectors. Pass the ten year window of the deal right. But in the meantime as you say they have increased their activity in the region certainly in syria and And you and other other. Just they've been a bad actor all over the place and it's going to be really tricky on how we negotiate to them back into the nuclear deal and at the same time. I suppose that would mean that we would relax the sanctions against them but there are a lot of people who argue that by relaxing those sanctions. It will give them the opportunity to do far more mischief. And this not mischief is vile stuff and those are understandable and legitimate concerns We also have upcoming elections in early. Twenty twenty one. In iran and so one of the other questions were wrestling with is to what extent does signaling a willingness to re engage with iran either strengthen or weaken the hand of hardliners verses slightly less hardliners in iran obviously the assassination of their senior nuclear scientists both demonstrates that there are players in the region if the reports are true that it's israel willing to take aggressive action to prevent iran from a nuclear breakout and it will probably encourage those within iran who view diplomacy is unlikely to be successful. But i haven't had a classified briefing on recent developments in iran. That's one of the things. I'm looking to get in the coming weeks. Okay we're gonna take a quick break from chris. Coons senator from a delaware Close friend and ally of president elect biden. We'll be right back. Let's move on to domestic politics and to the senate because unless we win these two run seats in georgia the republicans are gonna continue to control the senate and this is this one speaks of the importance of my listeners. Donating to georgia at war getting on the ground there especially Jordan's listening but this is going to be a monumentally difficult senate and congress to deal with if If we don't win those two right. I absolutely all these special elections Which there's a variety of sort of unusual circumstances that came together for there to be two special elections for the us senate. In the same state at the same time senator johnny isaacs in who was my ranking member. A lovely lovely guy will say charming man You know when. When we as senator say to people my good friend orrin hatch. You know i. I don't mean it don't rain but in this particular case you know unprompted you said of johnny. What a lovely man. He actually despite being a conservative republican from georgia. Despite being someone. I disagreed with on a lot of important policy. Areas is personally one of the kindest most gracious people i've ever served with and we've managed to get a number of important bill signed into law under the obama administration. He retired Because of a challenge with parkinson's so there are two elections at the same time. One's a special election ones irregular election and in both cases neither candidate got fifty percent. So there is this run off a january fifth to your point if we win both of them. Then we're in control of the senate and that means a very different path forward in terms of confirmations of for the biden cabinet In terms of judgeships and judicial nominations and in terms of our ability to advance an agenda. Anything like what joe biden. Ranan if we lose one or both of those races and purdue or leffler. The currently serving republican senators are reelected. Then it really all falls to mitch mcconnell and whether or not. He's going to be reasonable and agreeable in recent history suggests. We should not be optimistic on that front. It may prevent us from confirming a single judge in the coming two to four years. It may prevent us from delivering covert relief to the tens of millions of american families that are facing eviction who've lost their job who are struggling economically or personally And it may prevent us from doing anything. Bold or significant on climate change on opioid addiction. On background checks on immigration. I will work as you know al tirelessly to try and find republicans willing to work with me on this but it is a lot harder when we're in the minority and when mitch is the majority leader might them tation here is to go into Senators and stock and selling their stocks. I don't think that's as important as covid. Which i wanna talk to you about But my god why why. Why should any senator own any individual stock. Why shouldn't we just have been required. What i did was. I admit fi had like i had the Exchange based you know stocks like index funds and stuff like that we. We had a stock act right. You remember that. And a thank god for that because that meant you had to disclose what you did. And that's part of the reason purdue and leffler are both in trouble on this but this is unbelievably off. Just just remarkable that senators. Apparently i mean by any way you look at it. These are inappropriate sales of stock using knowledge. That you that they had. And i just don't understand. Will there be a move to say nope. You just can't own individual stocks. Speaking sort of broadly about ownership restrictions in allah would make. It would make a lot of sense to me. That a requirement of service in the senate is that whatever assets you come in owning whether it's mutual funds or properties or stocks or whatever. It might be that you have to fully disclose and set up a blind trust where whoever is managing those assets does not and cannot consult with you about things you learn through service in the senate. I think it will be difficult to get the whole senate to ever agree to barring any ownership of stock some folks you know come into the senate having been successful in business some come into the senate with family businesses that own. Some share of some committed to the senate largely penniless One of the ways that i think. Joe biden distinguished himself in the senate was by often being the senator with the least economic resources and never forgetting where he came from and being someone who grew up In in our middle class of folks who worked in manufacturing. But i you know one of the challenges as you know. Is that any any change. In terms of our disclosure rules requires a majority of the senate. And if there's one thing. Mitch mcconnell has fought tooth and nail. It's increasing limitations on political fundraising limitations on disclosure by requiring greater disclosure. And i frankly think. It undermines the credibility of the senate as an institution as a whole many americans own something through their ira or their pension fund in mutual funds relatively few americans own. You know one hundred million dollars in stock and a few of our colleagues do and i think it it just casts doubt on the senate as a whole when you've got folks of great means and who continue to trade even during their service he'll talk about the most urgent facing us which is covid and we now have some hope which i we needed so i wanna talk about one vaccines and to i wanna talk about a covert relief package. I think it is just makes me wanna cry. Knowing that food insecurity has tripled in this country that we have Kids who can't go to school who don't have Connectivity we have parents who have to stay with their kids and can't go to work. this is sinful. The way we're handling this. Can we get a relief. Package can get it soon. Can we help people al. That's part of what makes it so hard for me to go back to washington today and to try and stick out my hand and say okay lindsay. Okay susan collins okay. Let's let's try again and get this done. We should have done this six months ago. To be encouraging our remind you That in march the senate unanimously passed. The cares act which at two point three trillion dollars is the single biggest bill. We've passed in decades or frankly likely will pass in decades. It was an absolutely enormous relief. Package that sent unemployment checks Support for small business Significant resources to states and local governments and invested in the development of the vaccines. That are now showing huge. Promise so that we can move from hope to optimism confidence that we will be out of this pandemic next year. What is maddening l And to use your term sinful is that month after month after month. The republican majority in the senate has refused to move on a package. Anything like the scale that is needed. There's about six million americans who are facing eviction or foreclosure in the coming month at the holidays In my little state of delaware the delaware food bank is serving more people than they've ever served by a multiple. I was just over at one of our larger city public schools of middle school where there was a testing available and i was talking to the principal. And he said you know. They are doing their absolute best to provide an educational experience but the number of kids who don't have access to the internet who don't have the ability because of their parents in their home conditions to really learn He's concerned this will be a lost year in terms of education. So i do think in the next two weeks We will likely reauthorized the ppp program. There's one hundred and thirty billion in it that hasn't been spent yet. I do think we may. Well extend the date for state and local governments to spend their cares act relief and i'm hopeful that we will authorize more funding for states for the distribution of the vaccine but beyond that Another round of unemployment another round of Individuals stimulus checks I just don't think the majority leader and his carcass are going to do that. And it makes me want to cry or break. Thanks to have to say that. But that's my current sense of where we are too it it's maddening My daughter works the dc public school system. I gotta tell you it's this is insane we're doing Let's talk about the vaccine Someone came up with the idea. And which i think is not a bad idea of just paying people to take the vaccine. I mean like the best thing are can happen for our economy is for everyone to be faxon hated and the best thing for our health and the best thing for some people don't die is going to be vaccinated. Senator produce should be paid. Takes his vaccine. Draw the line but essentially the argument you get in line. Here's your vaccine great you're vaccinated. Here's fifty bucks that you get when you come back for your second shot because we've got some between thirty and forty percent of americans given just how much president trump has fueled conspiracy theories and undermined confidence in science. That say they're not going to get vaccinated. And if it's a two-shot vaccination regime which most of the promising vaccines are. You have to take the first one and then come back in two or three weeks to get the second one. Yeah and. I don't think it's fifty. I think it's two hundred and two hundred for the next one. I mean i. I don't know what the price point is. But we need to get everyone vaccinated and this this would pay for itself in terms of our our Being able to open everything up. Let let's move on to something. I'm really. I know your time is short. I can't believe that my former republican colleagues won't just say come on president trump. You can't continue to question our democracy the way you are and spew these scurrilous theories. Why won't they say something. Why won't your republican colleagues. Say something. well so i. It's been an interesting journey. I've had quite a few conversations with colleagues who've called me to say. Hey chris i'd really love it if you'd convey my congratulations to the president-elect and i say well that's great you know thanks for calling Sure but you know. There's this thing called twitter. And you could simply post something congratulating him on on his election and i then get a a silence and i'll go on and look and say. Oh well you know i you. Haven't you haven't said anything about the election. This would be a great opportunity for you to move in a good direction and they back pedal and say well you know my voters might believe trump. And so we're just gonna have to let this play out. There are more republican members of congress who have tested positive for covid. Then there are who have publicly accepted. That joe biden is the president elect before before you say goodbye. miss Working with you and It was fun on the judiciary committee. We sat next to each other and Thanks thanks for doing this. Allieu are a tremendous friend. And you're a great colleague. And i look forward to your voice and your influence in your engagement in our politics because from the very first time i heard you bring your incredible insights and intellect and wit to bear on critiquing Rush limbaugh and others of our era. I thought my gosh he could really play a significant role in our politics You have you are and you will and I've got a little sketch of the fifty states of the united states. You did me one day judiciary and it's literally sitting on my desk and i'm grateful for your friendship and i appreciate the chance to be on with you. You know you can frame those things and sign up for you. That was chris coons and For now on. I'm going With articulate guests. Who have something to say. Well i hope you enjoyed Listening beautiful music is by leo. Cocky the greatly. Oh cardi i wanna thank peter osborne. For producing this podcast. We'll talk again next week.
Forty Dollars for Twine? | Guest: Hilary Kennedy | 1/28/20
"Grade is here on the blaze Radio Network for being here with us. Great cab triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety ninety-three also at Pat Unleashed on twitter. so just a an awful lot going on of course the impeachment trial L.. In the Senate continues we've got battles on on on many fronts in Washington Shington battles on the Internet battling against a trying to contain a what looks like could become an eh domestic. So there's an awful lot going on a good day yeah already a good day. The the Corona virus I understand Chinese nurse in Wuhan claims that ninety thousand people are already infected other ninety thousand. which shouldn't surprise us? I mean the Chinese are pretty good. Allying and suppressing hiding things things now. They're sixty three cases that are suspected in twenty two different states here in in the United States. So Oh we're not immune from this thing either. No limericks mirror remember wash your hands you can do this good grief. Washing washing hands is is important. Yeah and people have been at wash your hands after you shake somebody else's hand wash them before you touch your eyes you know or mouth right right really important people have been Texts are tweeting me Pictures of bathrooms in China. That's why what are they. They're they're showing that they're just holes in the floor with no toilet paper. Gosh it's really Oh really nice and it's not some like Nice Rando Internet picture. You know this yeah. My husband travels for business. And and here's what what. He goes to the bathroom if this is what he deals. That's good that's nice. Yeah great so yes so China Let's this is an opportunity to changed some things about how you live because it's gross right. No all cultures are exactly okay in fact there's is probably superior ours even though the snakes and bats and you know poop in halls and whatever else I was I was holding this store. I betcha tweets but Powell j eighty three tweets at pet unleashed krono viruses. Why brother Pat night are mostly vegetarian? We we only eat cows pigs and chicken. No bats are snakes. No that's very true. Never had snake. Oh never eaten bat not going to put but that on the menu pretty proud of that too so the US is issued a travel warning about going to China. I think that's probably prudent. If we had plans to go to China it would you be cancelling them right now yet. I would no thank you. Yeah I wouldn't take a chance even it was. You know it wasn't was an I wasn't anywhere near any of the I don't know. Is it twenty cities. Now that have been coordinate quarantine because it's fifty six million last. I saw it's probably higher than that hat now. Fifty six million people quarantined. I I you ask the question would you go. I talked to a guy last night who travels every six months or so to Asia And I said so. When's your next trip? You looking forward to that. It's like it's a couple of months and he said I think I'm GonNa have control roll over my route and I was thinking. Yeah the route. That doesn't leave America. Maybe yeah seriously. I wouldn't be going if you have a business trip trip and you have to go. I don't know what you do because I I wouldn't WanNa go sorry. No nope that's what it's time for a new job yet. We're GONNA send you to Wuhan. We've I've got some important Papers signed up. No I'll see you later. And they started reporting on this journalists the the government authorities were were were stopping this reporting early on they were they were confiscated. And you know how a communist government operates it's never confiscating pictures and stories and keeping that news from getting out right and then after they already knew. The outbreak was happening is when they had this huge gathering. Close to where. The epicenter is for like the Chinese New Year. Whatever everyone's sharing stuff this is how not to run a country? It's it's really ridiculous. And how many how many how. Many millions of people are quarantined right. Now what are we fifty six million goodness if d six million. Wow Wow that was last night. It's probably more because it's increasing exponentially every day now the actual the the actual numbers that China is admitting to twenty eight hundred people infected. I mean they're admitting to the fifty six million quarantine but twenty eight hundred word infected eighty-one dead. Wow I mean. That's that's really chilling. Let's see I see one hundred six dead. There's one hundred sixty and update until I got this last night already one. Oh six and that's also China authorities. So it's probably more than that. Wow I'm not going to China I didn't really have any desire to try to know but certainly not now no thank you All right as far as the impeachment situation goes we still have A A couple of Republicans Susan Collins Mitt Romney of course leading the way on Hora. Maybe we should has some witnesses. I'm thinking we should it. I'm thinking let's do that. Let's bring them in. Let's talk to him. I WANNA hear more. There was a time when it wanted a full trial all I wanted them to. Really air this thing out. I'm so sick and tired of it now. I just want him to dismiss. It could do if they want if Mitch McConnell wanted to. Yeah Yeah I did hear speaking of Mitch. McConnell that How who was it? I think Senator Barosso someone said that Mitch. McConnell told him that on Friday they're going to vote vote on whether or not they're going to have witnesses okay so all right so they got at least two. Republicans maybe switching sides. It looks like Susan Collins Mitt Romney Omni. That's still not enough. They need to more so they need four people do they need for Republicans to switch sides and vote and vote with Democrats on on witnesses. Witnesses but the Democrats should be a little leery of this because they open this thing up to witnesses. You're going to have a hunter. Joe Biden called. Well that's what senator to is is trying to do is kind of a one for one. Tell you right get. We'll give you one. There's no reason to do that. They've got the majority they don't have to get into all at all. The Republicans are always bargaining young trauma. Ways well we don't want to be mean knew. We could do a one for one kind of arrangement arrangement. Did they do that in the house. NOPE didn't call any Republican witnesses. None that the Republicans is wanted so why. Why are you accommodating them every time okay? Yeah Yeah it was just. We'll cave. Yeah okay all right well yeah you can have witnesses or we'll do one for one if you let us have one we'll get we'll give you one. It's hard to remember who's in power our it is. You know who controls what. Yeah because they don't act like they have they don't act like they have the majority in in the Senate Salt yesterday. The defense trump's defense team began to lay out their case and you know to me. Pretty Darn compelling and yet. The New York Times didn't have a single story on their front page that talked about trump's defense not one story on the front page. Everything in the top section was about Bolton The Washington Post led with Bolton and a few stories he's down they had a headline with no description about his defense. CNN lead with the Defense Story. But it was you know they're CNN analysis Where they basically said trump's defense was just talk radio talking points of course every every point that's made by Democrats is pure hewer and Organic but every made by Republicans ads talk radio talking points Fox mean and had Dershowitz and Bolton in their top story headline seems like balanced to me political lead with Romney making his move so It's just kind of agonizing though that that the Republicans seem to be caving and they seem to always do this. I don't know that they even need to have a vote on Friday about witnesses or any day about witnesses. McConnell can just decide it doesn't have to be a vote but he left an open letter to open up the parameters. Yup near we are so I think the the defense wraps up today so they only they only needed. I think they were talking they. They had Saturday Saturday. The the took yesterday so I guess they're taking a decent amount of time. Each wraps up today team gets three days so this would end. Yeah but they said they didn't even we needed but I guess they've taken it so Here are some of the things that were said. We've got PAM biondi Pam Bondi. She's she's from Florida. She was the secretary of wasn't she. She was attorney. General Ah in Florida I forget attorney. General Yeah So here's Pam Bondi talking about Barista in March two thousand fourteen. The United Nine Kingdom Serious Fraud Office opens a money laundering investigation into the oligarch philosophy and his company for SMA the very next month April twenty fourteen. According to a public report Hunter Biden quietly joins the board of Barista remember early. Twenty fourteen was when Vice President Biden began leading Ukraine policy. Here's how Hunter Biden came came to join Baristas born April twenty fourteen. He was brought on the board by Devin Archer. His Business Partner Devon Archer was college roommates with Chris Chris Heinz Stepson of Secretary of State. John Kerry all three men hundred Biden Devon Archer and Chris Heinz had it had all started and investment firm together public records show that April sixteenth. Two Thousand Fourteen Devon Archer meets with with Vice President Biden at the White House just two days later on April eighteenth twenty. Fourteen is when Hunter Biden quietly joins BEREA SMA according to public reporting remember. This is just one month. After the United Kingdom Ingram Serious Fraud Office open a money laundering case into Barista hundred nine joins their board and not only ten days. After Hundred Biden joins the board British sees twenty three million dollars in British bank accounts connected to the Oligarch Still Sqi the owner a Barista did Hunter Biden leave the board. Then now the British authorities also announced that it had started criminal investigation into potential money. Laundering didn't Hunter Biden. Leave the board. Now what happened was then only then did the company me choose to announce that Hunter Biden had joined the board after the assets of Burris Dema and as oligarch is shefty were frozen and a criminal investigation had begun hunter. Biden's decision decision to join. BURRIS SMA raised flags almost immediately one article from May twenty fourteen stated. The appointment of Joe Biden's son to the board of Ukrainian gas firm BARISTA has raised eyebrows. The world over even outlet with bias. Democrats pointed out hunter. Biden's activities created a conflict of interest for Joe Biden. The article stated the move raises questions about a potential conflict of interest for Joe Biden No that was on buzzfeed that right wing excite buzzfeed. Yeah At they are so pro trump that they were just doing his bidding obviously She wasn't great there. But you know those are those are facts that are are never discussed and it's nice that at least they're being mentioned now in the context of this trial trial and I love how the Democrats are trying to make this. Oh Is it wrong for a dad to help his son get a job. It's yeah that's what it's about it's about. What is it about the twenty twenty election and trump trying to get dirt on who he thought it was going to be as big rival now? It's always it wrong for a dad to help help us get a job. Well I don't know if it's yeah. That's being investigated by a country that you're in control of the policy decisions ends of and then you threaten the prosecutor. That was going after them. I think we've got something bigger than Oh it's the twenty twenty election. Yeah we got There was a reporter that was I. Don't even over. The Guy was but he was badgering Ted Cruz yesterday. Because Ted Cruz came out and started talking about The fact that you know they talked for two hours hours about all of the evidence involving Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and Burris MMA so this reporter got into into Ted. Cruz loses face two hours. None of the president's attorneys mentioned one single possible Klein then her Joe Biden or accused up basically what they got a job as president of job. That's that's a crime. Then you shouldn't have with your children in prison. That's great. Shouldn't half of your children be imprisoned. If GonNa Ted Cruz. He just got a job right. Yes Oh cruises response priceless might children are nine and eleven. I'm sorry that you WANNA throw a nine year old in prison at this point. My third grader plays basketball and softball or school. So putting the Nasty Note Oh stop. Playing the net nasty Washington Game Unmasked Wash Oriented so great depresses spinning it with the Democrats. Oh you just have a problem with apparent helping their child get a job. Well half of all children in America and certainly the Senate should be in prison one idiot. I mean that's just stupid David. That's just a that's but stupidity right there. It's unbelievable it's obviously not about Ju. Just about apparent helping his his son get a job or is quite a bit more to this and Pam Bondi discussed more about it yesterday the typical board member of these fortune one hundred companies. We know they're titans of their industry. They're highly qualified and as such they're well compensated even in so hunter Biden was paid significantly. More this is how well he was compensated. So Hunter Biden is paid over eighty three thousand dollars a month while the average American family of four during that time each year made less than fifty four thousand dollars and that's according to US Census Bureau during during that time and this is what's been reported about his work on the board. The Washington Post said quote. What specific duties hundred hundred Bein carried out for Barista are not fully known in quote the New Yorker reported quote? Once or twice a year. He attended Brima the board meetings and energy forms that took place in Europe in quote. Let's worth when speaking with. ABC News about his qualifications to be on board hundred mine. Didn't point to any of the usual qualifications of aboard member. Hunter Biden had no experience in natural gas no experience in the energy sector no experience with Ukrainian regulatory affairs. Far As we know doesn't speak Ukrainian so naturally truly the media has asked questions about his board membership. Why was Hunter Biden on this board? If your last name wasn't Biden do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of Burris Ma. I don't know I don't know probably not probably I don't know I don't know the answer is no you would not have been. It'd be like a breeze. MMA all of a sudden called me said Hey pat You want to be at our board. We'll give you eighty three three thousand a month. Okay I don't know anything about energy. Yeah you don't need you don't need experience and don't worry about it. Can You keep the government off our backs. I mean the end. We'd love to have you join the team. That's amazing triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three also add paddle unleashed on twitter. Get to more of this in sixty seconds. We got all of these issues. You know the impeachment that gun confiscation the abortion. 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This is Pat Gray unleashed the defense took to the floor in the Senate yesterday and we just heard from Pam Bondi here saw Alan Dershowitz on abuse of power by the president. I will now give you a list of presidents who in our history have been accused of abusing. Their power would be subject to impeachment under the House. Managers view of the Constitution Constitute George Washington refusal to turn over documents related to the Jay Treaty John Adams signing and enforcing the alienist the sedition laws. Thomas Jefferson purchasing Louisiana without congressional authorization. I'll go on John Quincy Adams Martin. Van Burn John Tyler arbitrary adversary despotic and corrupt use of the veto power. James Polk here I quote Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln accused of abusing his power of his office contemptuously disregarding regarding the Constitution usurping the role of Congress and assuming the role of dictator. He didn't seek to impeach him. You just saw defeat. Him Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln was is accused of abusing his power for suspending the writ of Habeas Corpus during the Civil War President Grant Grover Cleveland William McKinley Theodore Roosevelt Belt. William Taft Woodrow Wilson Franklin Roosevelt Harry. Truman Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan quote concerning Iran. Contra and now I say. Professor Laurence tribe said the following quote there in lies what appears to be the most serious breach of duty by the president. A breach that may well entail an impeachable abuse of power George H W Bush. The following was released today by the Clinton Gore campaign in the past weeks. Americans have begun to learn earned the extent to which George Bush and his administration have abused their governmental power for political purposes. That's abuse of power should be used as campaign rhetoric. It should be in statements issued by one political party against the other. That's the nature of the term abuse of power is a political weapon and it should be level against political opponents. Let the public decide Yeah but don't impeach him over it or try to teach and they did impeach Beecham over it so Beauce power has. I'm sure it's been thrown out by every president. All forty five no doubt He he mentioned many of them there. But I bet you every single one has been accused of it He had more to and discussed Congress's own abuse of power congresswoman and maxine waters recently put it more succinctly in the context of a presidential impeachment. Here's what she said. Impeachment is whatever you're Congress says it is there is no law. This lawless view would place congress above the law. It would place Congress above the Constitution for Congress to ignore the specific words of the Constitution itself and substitute its own judgments would be for Congress to do what it is accusing the president of doing and no one is above the law not the president and not Congress. That's pretty compelling there you go yeah. Abusive is not a high crime or misdemeanor. Getting no note is not neither. Is You know making a a country. Wait for the aid for the hundreds of millions begins of dollars of aid. We're going to give them. That's not treason. No no that's not a high crime it's not a misdemeanor it's It's it's par for the course every the president does it. Every president puts puts eight on hold for one reason or another Obama did multiple times. Any did it with Ukraine. I mean this is just unbelievable and yet here. We are continuing to to hash this out month after month. And and you know Romney senators like Romney and Collins are GonNa Force this to be dragged out even further so get ready for a long ride because if if they can get. They've already got these two. It looks like Mitt Romney and Susan Collins if they can get to more than there will be witnesses. And this thing's going to be drawn out for who knows how long it was Romney talking about how he'd like bulletin to testify a telling reporters. Yesterday I said for some time I hope to be able to John Bolton. I think we're the story that came out yesterday. It's increasingly apparent. It would be important to hear from John Bulletin Make a final decision on witnesses after we've heard from the prosecution but also the defense but I think the stage is pretty fair to say John Bolton has a relevant adjusting to provide to those of us who are sitting impartial justice. Okay he's he's kind of agonizing he's really good of agonizing you know with the Democrats all of a sudden the Democrats John Bolton. Is this wonderful trustworthy. I know he might be the most trustworthy person living on the planet today since we do you guys love John Bolton punching bag. Ugh Man eat John Bolton. But he's saying things against the president. He's playing into their agenda and so now he's their hero. John Bolton is the hero of the left the Democrats the media. They all love him now. Yes John Bolton by the way he's he's out selling a book. I wonder if that has anything to do with this. You don't think he's I don't know trying to make a few extra bucks to you. I mean come on. This is so ridiculous. New York Times gave A list of five takeaways from the Zeta John Bolton and his and his book first of all of course risk that he did tie his willingness that trump did tie the willingness to release the aid to Ukraine to the investigations he wanted from the Ukraine re Ukrainians and During a conversation in August with Mr Trump Mr Bolton mentioned his concern over the Deel of course because he's wonderful and sainted and he's doing all the right things so of course. He mentioned his concern over the delay of the four hundred million that was appropriated trump replied that he deep preferred sending no assistance to Ukraine until officials had turned over all materials. They had about the Russia investigation related to Biden and supporters hours of Clinton Clinton in Ukraine. So that's a thing. One thing to trump was at odds with his With Bolton and other national security senior national security officials number three Bolton talks about the fact that he talked to bar and Pompeo about loud Giuliani and of course expressed his grave concerns. Grave Concerns Bolton is willing to testify the White House. The Awful Evil White House doesn't want him to And of course the manuscript is introducing a significant twist just to the impeachment trial because they believe every word he says and I I don't know from based on what I've heard from the administration. He he doesn't even have first hand knowledge of this. He certainly wasn't in on the phone call now. Did they have conversations together about Ukraine. I I don't know by spos- but how do you know. How do you know who to believe in this triple eight nine hundred thirty three thousand three more gray unleashed coming up A rain by the way speaking to podcasts Download his work ever. PODCASTS are found except soundcloud. 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Update trips are now seventy five percent off now for ninety percent they could be one hundred percent off I'm not going to Silva tweets The Democrats always act as if they're the majority even when they aren't the Republicans always act as if they're in the minority especially when they aren't Cooley. With see if no one is above the law including Congress. Why are all of them in jail? Why aren't they? Why aren't yeah should should say? Why aren't Jack's data five tweets? Did I just hear someone mentioned president. James Volk James Capel Tuesday. Yes I don't have the assets right ill for Minnesota regarding president and who has advised who is Abused their power I notice Calvin. Coolidge was not mentioned in that list. Names I noticed that too. Nobody ever accused. It was super sensitive on that issue. He did not want to abuse. He didn't want to stray from the Constitution at all such a great president so so wonder rated rance out loud. I don't even know how to speak Ukrainian but I do know how to speak eighty thousand dollars a month. I'd have Rosetta Eta Stone on speed. Dial no kidding man. Oh yes I would learn Ukrainian for that kind of salary bovines scatology what Ted Cruz should have said to. The reporter was the DNC has pointed to a single crime in the impeachment. That's true Brandon Anderson. Here's my pre reshow tweet. Also this is this is like you know thirty nine minutes old at Lisi this is. This is GonNa be waiting for you brandon to get mentioned on the air so I can hear it later on the podcast. I and it worked. It worked graduation however however brandon. If you're listening on soundcloud remember sub what you're doing. Yeah and listen. Do it somewhere else somewhere else. This is. I looked up a trip to Wuhan. Or what have you here is is it is cheaper. I mean sure a discount sure. It's the last minute. Yeah maybe factor that okay. But I'm not paying fifteen hundred dollars which is considered a very good deal at Expedia to get a flight in a hotel right now for the next four days the flight and hotel would cost fifteen hundred. Yeah I don't care how good of a deal that is. That's a pretty good deal. I WANNA die. You're gonNA clear across the world today but yeah I don't want to. I want everybody. Everybody who gets the disease doesn't die. Oh so I'm not taking the chance in fact it looks like to me. It looks like the mortality rate is under ten percent. Okay so oh well now now. I'm still now I don't want to get it. That's for sure now. I'm kind of clicking around here. That's Nice Hotel. They're really the China Hotel I mean and seriously as a may be worth it and maybe what the risk is you have the whole place yourself to. Unless they're all quarantine rooms now man. Wow this is a since the city is under quarantine. I suspect you can't even go in. Yeah right I know nobody gets out. That's not a very good quarantine if you're young people people in and then leaving again so that's a crappy quarantine situation. I don't know but this hotel's nice so if I'm corentin inside this hotel you'd be okay with passes Assis. Yeah I'M GONNA post this on twitter and you you guys. I got to tell me it's worth it because this is a nice digs my goodness this restaurant. Yeah we're going We saw what they do in restaurants though in the documentary contagion think about it. Showed you that yesterday. The chef in that place didn't even wash his hands before he started shaking people's and and look what happened. Look what happened. Millions billions of people died as a result. Triple eight nine hundred thirty. Three ninety-three edit pat unleashed on twitter urges. Running through some of what happened yesterday today in the impeachment trial and Some of the really good points that were made one By the junior senator from Delaware Tom Carper or was he eloquent. This guy was waxing eloquent. And there's the phrase that pays talking about Jesus and and Jefferson. See if you can make out what he's trying to say here. This incredible effort to keep Documents from coming coming I mean it was like a government wide effort to shut it down. We shouldn't be afraid of the truth right as I said earlier. Jefferson's words the Jesus words a truth serum set your Free Jefferson's words. Jefferson's chooses truthful sangre. I interest keep us free. And that's what we protect our democracy. I'm fearful this checks and balances which is the underpinning of our democracy accuracy undermined. We don't have dude. This is not a democracy but the guy doesn't know the difference between what Jefferson said. Jesus said let's go back to Jesus. Jesus yeah let's go back to no I'm sorry. It was carrot. Carrot top carrot top. WHO said died for no? It wasn't it was Shiqi anchor on Fox was really confused. The dude anchor on Fox was just trying to keep from laughing which. I don't think he prevented on the next clip. We have have of Tom Carper okay. Because he continued. There was more from Tom. So we will see what happens. Now is continuous final the James but the There's a the book of James Versus says Something people something about you by your words in people be Mommy. Remember what you say. But they'll remember what you do. We need to hear we need. We know where you stand. Thank you thank you so much senator. Maybe you shouldn't be tried to quote scripture because you don't seem to know it My friend who okay. There's something about in the book of James or something about words. No no he wrote words and then Hang on no. It's not James. We go back to Jesus again. We no Jefferson back to Jefferson Jefferson. Hold it Wait a minute. No Confucius said that's not wait. Let me go back. That is amazing stuff. That's you have a socrates quote he might end up there. Is there anybody Eddie. In the Democrat Party oh still has their their noodle functioning a functioning noodle anywhere in the Democrat Party. 'cause Biden doesn't have one and Pelosi doesn't have one this guy doesn't have one wow Tom Carper a lot plan better. Tom Memorize more. If you're going to try to use scripture you should probably have it down kind. I never know what you're gonNA say and be able to say it but he was probably thinking all right so I'm GONNA go over to Fox News. I got to be able to speak the language of their audience. What are they like over there? I don't know guns owns what else they like. Oh Bible Bible. That's give me somebody. Give me a Bible verse or something. Memorize Oh gosh. That was that it was painful at was an authentic. I'll say that she's a course representative. Alan Crowe was not doing much better than Tom carper yesterday. He admitted impeachments being affected by the upcoming election. Here's what he did. The House move too quickly quickly. Should they have called more witnesses there. And do you feel that there are any sort of lingering effects on of those decisions right or wrong on the current proceeding. Now I I think. The House proceeded in a way that it should have preceded urgency but it was also thoughtful and deliberate. You know that occurred over several months period of time the Intel Committee Sir but There there is some urgency here because we're dealing with undermining free and fair elections so it does have to do with the elections. That are coming up later this year. Oh does have to do with that. I see because I thought it was just about the constitution. The sacred wonderful constitution that you love so much right now and also if it's an election year it also which does have to do with the election coming up We're trying to get rid of him. That is interesting isn't it sure is fascinating. So there you go. We have no crimes And we have an election year. I think that is the the ground you work for. The impeachment just admitted. That's what it's about. That's really something there. I guess the think they're so far down the road now. It doesn't doesn't matter if they if they just say it. I don't know it's pretty amazing. But we'll see we'll see the The defense should rest after today and then do we know what's going to happen tomorrow and Thursday. Yeah because Friday. They're doing the vote on whether or not to to call witnesses yeah. I know that they're gonNa just adjourn until Friday. No no they get sixteen hours of. Gosh I saw this When they first started you know a couple of weeks ago and I forget what it is? Let's see ask questions questions. Yeah so you have two business days to ask questions Wednesday Thursday okay of of the impeachment managers and the defense team. Let's see maybe win. The senators don't get to speak. They must submit their questions. In Writing Justice Roberts and then and then the chief justice will decide which questions to ask directing them to the manager or the White House legal team. How this is GonNa be awesome? That must be to to avoid grandstanding. That's what it says. Yeah as as a New York Times article that does not mean. There will not be any grandstanding. When the chief justice reads the question aloud he will indicate which senator submitted it and then does that senator stand up and take a bow wondering a little dance? Let's see sing a little song. Yeah I don't know get down tonight in all right. Well that's GonNa be Wednesday and Thursday fun with the chief justice. That's weird that that Roberts has the ability to decide which which he'll ask in an which won't get very interesting I don't know why why he can't just read them all all right. Why why wouldn't you unless you know some of emerges stupid like how much would would would chuck chuck because I love that directed toward Alan undershoots? I WANNA see how he bins that so anyway there you go so we got one more day of defense. That's today and then two days of Questions through the chief justice and then Friday. They vote on if they're going to have witnesses. Okay so This could be wrapped up pretty quickly or it could drag on for quite a while and don't forget less than a week on Monday the Iowa Caucus and you know in the middle I mean Colobus Shar and Sanders and Warren have to be really coming out of their skin jumping the bit out of that impeachment trial they gotta get out there and campaign looks like Sanders was has really taken a pretty solid lead right now in Iowa wait a minute right yeah I just thought of something sanders enclosure are both surging right now right yep okay and they're not out there campaigning. I think I think we're just cracked the code. The less we see if politicians the mortar like them. Yeah let's see the ones that are there like ah Biden and butter and stuff. You know. They're going down because people. Oh why are you still in my state. Go away away. That's what it is so this is actually working out to the benefit of those who des Sitting senators running for president. It would be hard for me to imagine that had They'd be these three senators well and Michael Bennett too. But I mean he's so far in the rear view mirror that nobody even knows in the race Those four four people would want this to be over so I wonder if they'd be tempted. Even though they're Democrats to vote against witnesses so they and get back out on the campaign trail and get to Iowa. No I don't I don't need it from anyone. No I'm ready to vote. Oh Oh boy yeah it is. It's I mean what a what an amazing time this is Tell your children. It'd be talking about this to their grandchildren. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three also at pat unleashed on twitter. Greta Thunberg still making her world tour of Lecturing to adults about climate change and the president of course tweeted about her coming down and then Chris the Cuomo took exception to that and then and then I think yesterday he also tweeted out something about leaving her alone because she's only sixteen she's actually actually eighteen now I read the other day but is she somebody you can't you can't talk about. You can't a dispute. I mean she's out in the political arena. She's continually lecturing us on climate change. We're supposed to just shut up about it. We're not supposed to respond to what she has to say she was. She's been given multiple speaking opportunities in front of world. Leaders tried to a foreign policy. The respond right come on. I mean she is talking about things that would change life as we know it dramatically. She's talking about draconian onians change far. Beyond what even people like Al Gore have been saying although they're all now embracing that yeah what she said. WHOA she said the Greenwich Thune? Berg is brilliant. Just go with what she thing But Chris Cuomo made this just impassioned plea about Greta and the way she should be treated sixteen year old climate activists Greta Tune Berg Time Magazine's person of the year. This teenager run was on the autism spectrum and he knows it her combination Asian of Youth Passion Vulnerability it makes her the embodiment of the notion. That wisdom can come out of the mouths of Babes. No Noah doesn't with me it's unbelievable. Oh yes that is unbelievable that this is supposed to be wisdom just because just because she says it while the eyes of all future dinner what you start on you and if you choose to fail us I say we will never forgive you. Okay well I mean whatever whatever but we're not supposed to respond to that okay. You're never going to forgive US unless we act the way you think we should the way you been indoctrinated to believe we should act and we just have to remain silent about that time magazines decision to pick her is gonNA make sense too. Many even those those who disagree with about climate change which is also known a science a you this guy. This smug sanctimonious hypocrite us is just agonizing to listen to but then comes trump Forget at the obvious jealousy. Remember this is the guy who face Jealous Time magazine person of the year cover and to make it clear. This was no misunderstanding in the campaign doubled down they put his head on Greta. Slight frame like some kind of bully blow pop but by now we expect our president to ignore all the precedent of presidential behavior fit troubling development. Is this yeah. You hear that. That's trump's defenders saying no nothing. Oh my brothers and sisters on the right. How how can expect people to believe you are offended by Democrats arguments about abuse of power or anything about integrity right when you stand by and buys and residents constant abuse and you provided the evidence against yourselves? I just last week when you cared so much about how we treat kids in politics. Remember this don't know let's hear so all the president can name his son Barron. He can't make you do that. Do Remember oh first lady went right into be best mode tweeting. A Minor Energy Child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. You should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering and using a child child to do it. Now I don't think the professor had the animists that the president had with what he just said no of course because she's on the left and so nobody has the animus that the president it has right. Who Does Chris Cuomo worked for? CNN and CNN did they just lost a massive lawsuit. We're GONNA get into that long coming up here in a minute. Great great to have you with us to triple eight nine hundred thirty. Three ninety-three ended PAT unleashed on twitter. And of course all over wherever you get your podcasts and again except sound class soundcloud. No don't download there. Why because we don't get any credit for it it's like it never happened? poof those numbers. Just go away so if you can and you do have another format format for it. Please use it like I tunes or spotify Stitcher Stitcher. Is that what you like back. I like that. Yeah I heart. Radio iheartradio is a good one The clear channel people formerly known clear. Channel Google podcast Google Yeah Google play Google play. Yeah that's a good format to all right triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also at Pat unleashed on twitter conservatory in lady tweets. It's isn't it possible. To Bolton was mad. He didn't get his war with Iran It's Bolton just seems like an angry guy to begin with. Maybe it's the mustache. Oh is that what it is but he always looks angry to me. Whenever I see him I think John? What are you so pissed off about but he may not be Mike just have resting? Bastard Fades rbm. RBM for men. I I don't know I don't know that you have that. Yeah like when I'm in deep thought or something. Yeah Whoa why are you so angry. I think I do too. I think people ask me like what do you mean. I'm fine once would make it about the big game Scott Harvey F. That's all I have Get off me. Yeah Uncle Leo. All right For Tech Ru. I know someone that the pay a twelve thousand dollars to leave China. Wow Just recently I suppose that's recent in this old trying to get out of there. Yeah right before they wouldn't you down if if you had it I'd pay almost anything to get out Under these circumstances yeah no thank. You don't want the Chinese pneumonia this stuff. Don't forget I tweeted out a link to expedient where we could go and hang out for what we got four days and Wuhan China Right now. Flight Plus Hotel luxurious luxurious hotel. y'All fifteen hundred bucks right now is a good deal. It includes the flight and four nights in the hotel. Yeah holy cow so so again it's under quarantine so if they're letting you in that's not much of a quarantine I don't feel very good about it. Frankly fifty six million people. I was feeling pretty bad. Form arm that they can't get in or out now. I'm thinking well. They can do whatever they want. A room servicemen. Whom Service think this through puppy monkey baby we now? I know what the Eagles meant in the Song Hotel California you can check in anytime you want. It's actually check out anytime you want but you can never leave. Thank you expedia. Yeah you can check in anytime you want but you can never leave. So maybe that's what they're doing you can go go ahead and go in there. which quarantine doesn't that usually keeping you from going? Keep you from going in as well seems like it does make me. Look this up aren't you I am. Can you traveled travel to China right now. Just a pilgrim tweets less than ten percent mortality rate or as Keith calls it a home improvement project what do you find out about. Going into China Sure again quarantine should mean. You can't go in you can't you can't get out yeah. I don't think you can check in anytime you want but you can never leave sure campaign anyway. No nobody's really going anyway so it doesn't really matter. Yeah we were talking about Chris. Cuomo and his smug sanctimonious self-righteous hypocrisy. I mean the guy is hard to even look at. I can barely stand to look at him. You put that picture back of their areas the as look at areas. That's a handsome. Not really at all never mind and so he's battling about trump and and if anybody on the right and the way they treat Greta Thunberg which I think she's gotten pretty good treatment considering that she's lecturing us is an threatening US yelling at us all the time about climate change and she's in this political arena. That usually says okay. You're in it now. We're GONNA respond right. I mean the reason. People didn't hammered Chelsea Clinton which was in the in the White House with the Clintons. She was just a kid. She wasn't in politics. When Chelsea Clinton got into politics has started sounding off about it? She was a little older. Then but then okay. Now you're fair fair game. I'm sorry we're going to respond to that when you're invited to speak in front of representatives from every nation on Earth Yup and and you're you come over to participate in the United Nations and you tell everybody how bad they are you become a political voice and they're never going to be forgiven. Okay Whatever I mean you're talking to the UN you're talking to The was the thing they just did. Limit the did the Davos. Yeah she went up at all. These all of them are all the political bigwigs show up YEP and but we're not supposed to but don't research thing negative about all know so he's babbling about that and then telling us that you can't. You can't say anything about her because she's a kid now. Is that what what he employed with Nick Sandman CNN his network just was sued for two hundred and fifty million dollars by that kid did because they attacked him relentlessly relentlessly now. I don't know that Chris Cuomo was attacking him relentlessly but he's on the network that did and he said he said things. That were Curtis Critical of Nick Sanmen as well I think we have this clip. Play the we're when he's talking about Nick Sandman Chris Cuomo speaking about the Nixon. If you have it and it goes a little something. I'm not talking about the people involved in the actual confrontation. I'm talking about everybody else Please accept that in the actual confrontation. No one was hurt. Thank God I've not seen any credible evidence that the kid involved did or said anything extreme to the man playing the drum the group taunting taunting the kids was being unduly provocative. Right where were the chaperons. Why did a school event involved Maga- hats then we get to the heart of it? Why did a school event involved mega hats? Wide events involve a abortion rally. That happens all the time. Why did this school of event involved climate change rhetoric Doc and signs shot up? Why did he doesn't have again any problem with any of this stuff comes from the left? It's only if they're supporting according donald trump or anything on the right all right. Let's see the rest of the heart of it. The face to face encounter the man. Nathan Phillips apparently wanted to defuse the tension and he walked up to do exactly that and shortly the kid examine. He doesn't seem to be afraid but he did. Make a choice. And that was to make it into a standoff what that was a good inbound. Sure that's not my test and it shouldn't be detest. Here's mines. That were my son weapons to go to a Catholic school. Would I like what he did if if I were. They're allowed the kids in that situation and it was a disrespect play. That doesn't work for me in the closet for a second. It was disrespectful about that. So there you know. Here's a seventeen year old kid. He's calling him disrespectful for standing there looking at the guy the guy came up to him. Yeah the the word to remember this story right. The native American involved got in his face. It's not the other way around correct and Nick Sandman just stood there. He didn't do anything disrespectful. He simply stood. There didn't mock the guy I he he. He didn't lash out at him. I guess he was supposed to turn around and leave. I don't know what he was supposed to do there. That would would have been been respectful totally and completely respectful. Let's see the this the kids my concern were your reactions more. So the left and the right almost instantly had equal and opposite reactions. There were reports of extreme misconduct attacks by the kids reverberate reverberate being set up to hurt the kids. The man with the drum was accused of lying and provoking and then the president. Would you did next sentiment. And the students have Covington and become become symbols of fake news and how evil it can be captivated. The attention of the world on even bringing people to get started off unpleasant but can end in a dream. Isn't that your job not the teenager right. Weren't they out of their depth. They supposed to be protected from this. Aren't you the one who's supposed to find a way to bring us together. Instead of exploiting every opportunity you find divide railing on the media and the left propping propping up the kids as victims. You neglect that. They were mainly victims of their own choices and actions. Shouldn't we discuss that wonderful pets but anything to do with your muted Response Response Posit for I mean. I can't take thank you. I have a feeling this. We'd played for a jury or something. didn't work though because they they had to settle in you know they paid in millions. It's been Not disclosed how much they had to pay Nixon men but you know it was in the millions. I hope it was in the millions. I hope he almost owns that. Stupid Channel That is despicable stuff. But it's typical of CNN CNN and their hatred for trump and for everything other right they had some fun last night mocking president trump. Anybody who supports. I'm this is amazing. To Don Lemon had a couple of guests on and they had a three way split screen and the three of them were just really really pleased with their mocking Donald Trump portals and look he also knows deep in his heart. The Donald Trump couldn't find Ukrainian a map. If you had the letter you you a picture of an actual physical crane next to it. He knows that this is an administration defined by ignorance of the world. And so that's partly him playing to their base playing their audience You know the prejudice boomer so tickled trump's a smart one zero y'all elitist okay so so it's okay. Yeah I mean that's okay for these guys. I start Mockus News Network News Network in the middle of discussing an impeachment hearing the rest of this amazing you leaders with your geography and your maps in your spelling and reading reading you know author the country all those lines on the map in the world. All elitist. Nowhere a Ukraine is just breaks fault. I blame Eric Honestly. But you're not sorry. Sorry you got was a good one. I needed that okay. So listen dilemma. N- yeah that's really funny. We in the letter. You just proved everything you everything that the right believes about him just proved every they're they're so elite that they believe that that no trump supporter can find Ukraine on the map can can read a map. We can in on your geography you and your wife. I mean that's unbelievable. Now if that was if that was white people making fun fun of blacks or Hispanics or Asians or whoever else and using some sort of accent to portray portray what they're saying at een they'd be fired immediately they would all have lost their jobs at CNN or wherever they happen to be at Fox News. If Fox did something like that they wouldn't be working the next day. That's amazing. I guess that's all acceptable. Those still to I if if anybody is a supporter of Donald Trump. They're fair game to be mocked like that triple eight nine hundred thirty. Three Ninety three EBI stereotyped in that way. That's perfectly fine. Don't even worry about it. All right triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety-three more PAT gray unleashed coming up into sick. I'm Pat Gray the other night on the grammy's that all the major awards were won by a white person phthalic absolutely pathetic record year song of the year album of the year artist of the year all won by a a white girl. Billy I wish she had quite the night. and where was the diversity. Generally one more awards. She swept all four major awards. That's the first time that's happened. Since Nineteen eighty-one when Criss Criss Cross one all the major awards Christopher Cross we when you get caught between the moon and New York City wait what year nineteen eighty-one. Wow she's she's among the immortals now. Christopher Cross man to be mentioned mentioned in the same breath right as Christopher Cross and and. I'm sorry that erupted you because when you do get caught between the Moon in New York City must be Jeffey. What's the if he gets between the Moon in New York City it just jams gets? You just stops right there and the orbit of both okay just comes out where I was going but much better wherever you going. I was just going to set up those because he what's the best that you can do. Yeah I you would think fall in love but no the ant Jeffey like that Kinda wedged in there. Yeah kind of stops everything and you gotta wait for the Moon to do. You know what's thing. Thanks so that you can through their. Yeah for the millennials in the they're listening to a song by Christopher all right was from Arthur right. Yeah it's the Arthur theme song. Oh Yeah Gay cop and I know it's crazy but it's true all right triple eight. Nine hundred thirty-three ninety-three also pat unleashed on twitter and speaking of speaking of Whitey Whitey controlling everything and the being so racist there was a police officer who they thought was being racist and then it turned out that he can't be racist because he's black. Yeah he identifies as black and so obviously he's not racist. Take a look at a white cop and we're what city is this. This is Miami okay. He originally filled out some paperwork. Eric when he when he originally became a cop he put on their White Hispanic as his race White Hispanic right but now he's trying to get a promotion so he's putting black on there. He's trying to pull the old Elizabeth with Warren Trick. And so now he's busted and he's having to explain himself in front of the city. Commissioner love this watch as far as captain car she loves to you you know. She loved to call me a light meal. I'm a black male fan and I was born in this country. Was Holly Alley feel. I have a question for you sure. That's why yourself today's blackmail. Yes when you apply for the Police Department. Did you classify yourself as a black metal. At the time I think I put white male. I don't know if I put white male but I don't know if I put Hispanic no I know. Listen I know who I am. But it's also it's also who you were though put down Hispanic male injury okay as a man I stand by. Did you have this. How would God moment that you're black when he's well learn that there's people in my family that are mixed in that are black? I see. Let's not talk about the degree of blackness. No you're blocking the name. That's obvious what if you know anything about the one drop start in the twentieth century entry to one which which is what identifies and defines how you doing what a black male is or you would know that if you have one drop of black in you you are considered black. You're probably the black. Nobody sent me here in order to the city manager. I am my own man and your your your own blood yes so now. I'm being attacked half of my family's Jewish. Probably know that either. Uh thank you thank you. He got his fees claimed that he was a black now. Here Jewish black and I'm afraid maybe next month of the you know black Jewish woman. I don't know where else would you go with that. 'cause he wow he was white Hispanic. Yeah then he was black as black because he has one drop drop of black blood in him then he's also Jewish families Jewish but she didn't know that I didn't tell you I would i. I know that lost in all of this. I see what he's trying to do ha- he's trying to. He's trying to be funny though is he. I it doesn't seem like it. Well maybe you're about to make my point do you want that guy enforcing the law. nope I don't much want him walking around with a badge and a gun claims I know who. Ym Well No you don't because you put down that you were white when you sign up for the Job White Hispanic and now you're telling me you're black and then you tell me Your Jewish so which is And he's in the councilman was was dead on their. How how do we know he won't identify? There's a woman next time that's A black Jewish woman so he has been Was it suspended with pay or something. I don't know the house he he's still getting paid. I don't know if he's completely lost his job yet but was that just because he he did this. No I think he's because he lied on your light work and said that he was like man but you know what they say about the one draw. I know I actually don't know that rule. I imagine somebody. Somebody said that at some point that doesn't make a rule or law right and that was probably an old south thing or something. Yeah okay whatever man she got your fifteen minutes now go do something. The thing is because of all this identity crap. We're going to be seeing a lot more of this. Yeah yeah this is. The society created Allows for opening for this kind of behavior. Yeah absolutely I mean. Why wouldn't you say that you identify as black person? Listen why not because it could get you somewhere. Get Elizabeth Warren somewhere. Yeah sure did because when they're shuffling paperwork unfortunately in the society that we've created they just see that box checked yup in this through and not going to say it's a general rule but it happens happens quite a bit and you know where they're just like okay. I've got to equal candidates. HOW DO I? How do I break these apart here? Oh look that box checked and this is how an officer Ortiz is hoping to advance. That is crazy. I mean you know if he was trying to make a point or something if he was if he's he's trying to be funny or trying to be ironic I don't think he would have left in a huff like that. And he certainly didn't sound like that was irony at all All right triple eight nine hundred thirty three thousand three to talk to Hillary Kennedy here in a few minutes from the four minute buzz about First of all catch Chubb with life is. She's got you know. We found out last time she was in here. She's a big UFC fan and of course UFC had a big. I think it was week before last a couple of weeks where CONOR McGregor came back to the. US came out of retirement. So we'll talk to her about that. Another things catch up with her in just a second facebook and Google or struggling with misinformation the corona viruses rapid spread worldwide is forcing them to confront equally viral proliferation of bad information in the form of outright falsehoods in half truths about the outbreak break. It's going to be really tough to contain this kind of thing with free speech. I in fact I. I don't know how you do this. But they're working on it what I'd rather see them work on is Stop listening to our conversations in our homes our our businesses. It's a good place to start. Maybe you could maybe start there. My wife two of my daughters and I were sitting in our family room talking in the night before last I think it was and they started talking about. I don't know some obscure makeup product. I've never heard of. Oh no so. My other daughter picked up her phone and went to instagram. And the first thing she saw was an ad for that very product that I've never heard of that. We weren't googling we were just talking about it. It was on her face in an ad for her instagram page where she went to facebook. It was there too. Oh No it was my other daughter. Who mentioned it coincident in Scotland daughter? It's just maybe that's a coincidence. Coincidence this talk tonight. Welcome to it triple late. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three joined by Hillary Kennedy of the blaze. TV's four minute buzz. which comes on right before Glenn Show of course and then every three hour during Glenn show welcome? Thank you so much for having we've had first of all you've been struggling with your voice lately is what's going on there right. This is week four. I'm guessing Laryngitis Week. Four so it's not one hundred percent back but I am. I would say about eighty five better than it than it was. I mean we could barely I mean you were really struggling. I was scratching through trying to because I thought okay maybe just for a day but you can still still kind of cuts in and out. You can get a little bit. I've tried everything everything to bring it back because people have given me good home remedies apple cider vinegar lemon and honey steam throat lozenges. If anyone listening learning has anything other than that for me to try police let me know a bit they will. I'm sure your husband doesn't he's fine. He's enjoying this right. He's left. He's loved loved it anytime I would try and like whisper something out or telling something we should do. He would go. Don't talk don't talk. Just don't Save Your Voice. Yeah is it. Have you been to China a recently. Snap okay so anybody who's been to China interesting story about China's do you know how on Instagram Damn. They'll sell all kinds of things that you think are made in the United States but they're actually made from China so I ordered something for my sister for Christmas. She got some cats but she's never had cats so she saw this cute little cat scratching post on instagram in one of the ADS and sent it to me and it's something she wanted so I ordered it December seventh seventh yesterday. I get a package at my door. That's very tiny and I'm thinking what is this. I don't remember ordering anything. It's a package from China. It's not my cat scratching post. It's twine that. Looks like you could wrap it around something maybe to make a cat scratch. It was a total scam scam so I got a forty dollar package of twine. But I didn't WANNA up in it because I thought I don't know where this has been in China who's handled old this. I'm not opening this package. How it was in there? Well I open the outer layer of the package but the twine is encased in some sort of plastic and I thought yeah not opening paid forty bucks for yes thanks China ripping me off at Christmas. I was just. I was just reading that because because a lot of stuff comes from China as we know and they said that there's no evidence that and this is good because It would be really bad if this thing can spread through products products that you receive from China but they said there's no evidence that that can happen that would ruin so many of us who was on Amazon everyday clothes Walmart so it'd be uh-huh so you're you had a son a year ago right. His teammates old. Yes fifteen months. Now wow and you named mm Tim Fox Fox yes a A x-files lot No there was just a world war one general named Fox Connor and we thought well. That's kind of a cool historic name and it's short and it's easy to spell and pronounce because my husband's is last name is German last name and it's not spelled like it sounds. He's going to struggle his whole life so we thought well let's make it easy on him with a short first name and we already had had a million johns and Paul's our family so we thought well we need something short and we liked Fox. Thirty took a nasty spill lately doing okay. He did so. It was the day after Christmas Christmas. He is in daycare in the mornings. While I'm here at work. and He fell. He was just kind of getting comfortable walking and he fell and I get the call from them. I'm like hey don't forget out but we're going to need you to come pick him up and take him to the Er don't forget but don't freak out. Wow so he's he's okay so fell on the floor. He fell and bumped into a bookshelf. It's split his head open right at the brow line so he he hit it just right there. If you're watching. Yeah so it it split has been not to where it didn't quite make it to the skull so they were able able to glue it back together instead of stitches but it's browse because that happened. That happened a daycare though it did questions. Now Yeah so it wasn't on my watch but But yeah so I'm just worried about his little his little brow back because since he's got today so I think he's going to have this car But he may not not have any eyebrow hairs on that one I did you say. He didn't need stitches. He didn't glue it back together. which I'd never seen done before? It's basically like superstrong superglue and they just glue. You're back to you literally glue. It's just glue. Oh and I'm trying to convince her to not panic. It's been one month in two days. Okay okay so don't freak out yet. Because she's afraid he's GonNa like Frankenstein or something Russell's life and don't forget you named him after a World War One general no so he's tough he's GonNa have to have scarred. Yeah I mean I've heard a lot of people say like scars are cool. Scars are sexy. I just worried about him. Not Having one eyebrow relic. I don't want him to have the one vanilla ice eyebrow but I mean that was the. There's a before picture so he had to perfectly normal eyebrows and now he's got like one and a half eyebrows. Just don't let him be a white rapper. Drake was telling keep the funny anything was. We're leaving and the guy the nurse in the Er was like all right. See you later see you later. And he goes well I mean I hope not but odds are nice. That's raising a little boy yet. We've all been there. My son had a lip deal where he fell. Forward it into a table and and he had to put him down to put it down. Put Him under to To do the procedure. Puerto reason a kid. Yeah but for is every day just a walking heart attack. Yes this is the stuff nobody tells you before your children until you've had like six kids kids and then you're pretty used to it and so they they can fall into a crater and you'll be like man off and walk it off You'll get used to this. You will last time you were here you were telling us about your love for UFC UFC. Oh Yeah Conor McGregor who had retired then but now he's come back since and so not this last weekend but the one before he came out of retirement. Oh Oh yes he did. He looked so good up there. I was so excited about this conner. Either Kinda love or hate connor. He was fighting getting cowboys. Sarony who. I don't know anybody that hates cowboy. He's just a likable guy. Likable fighter and he's really good and he'll fight anyone anytime anywhere and so it was like a match of like my two favorite people. Just awesome. Wait wait you like to see your favorite people fighting beat the crap out of each other. Oh yes she does. Modern Day. gladiators keep an awesome very albeit quick fights because he knocked cowboy out out in forty seconds so but he looked great. Some people naysayers the connor haters are saying that cowboy either through the fight or he didn't give it his all. I I disagree I mean. Connor just has a lot of knockout power and cowboys more of a technical mixed martial artist and sometimes sometimes the knockout power just wins so but it was at blood enough or you buddy. He broke his nose so that was great. Oh so that it was great. Quote Cowboy was raised by his His Grandmother Switz- this little. I think she's eighty two or eighty three she a little old lady Denver Colorado okay. So she comes to all of his fights and she was there ringside watching a fight and was over. She came in the ring to you know. Console him with this loss and she she and Connor McGregor had this awesome moment where she came over and hugged him and he embraced her and he told her you know. You've raised a heck of a boy. Do you have all my respect. I really mean that. And she's just hugging his neck. And I'm like this. Restored my faith in the Americans right here. That's nice. Yeah that's nice sportsmanship. He seems like he's changed since he came back right. I mean he's not as Brash. She's not as obnoxious. This was before I agree. He's he's had a couple of losses and I think that really was some humble pie for him and I think he's also maturing a little bit. He's still a really guy he's like thirty one years old. I think it's still a pretty young guy And somebody like cowboy cowboys. Thirty six thirty seven. And so he's been around the block for a while And he has such such great sportsmanship he takes every loss so well and so I think that just comes with age where they you know with age. You're we're still losing. Connor still takes every moment to be a showman which I love because he basically brings like the the the the sport of a gladiator and the drama of like a WWe fighter and combined them into one amazing guy. How did you get into this? It seems like such an unlikely for you to love. I want everyone to be thinking of this conversation when the formative buzz comes in minutes here on TV. I will. My GRANDPA liked boxing. He Bucks using her. So I grew up watching boxing and then I always liked doing kickboxing things I got myself and so the news like the perfect marriage of this. Yeah and it's I mean it's a lot more. It's a lot more brutal than than just boxing right because the gloves observe smaller it's almost like bare fist fighting you're able to need people face L.. Bloom in the face I mean this is Mike Liden you should know as a as a UFC back face. Yeah Yeah Okay you talked the way. You do kickboxing. Yes have you ever knows no I would. I have always thought it would be fun to fight another person but I would always fight against the little dummies because I still have to come to work. So but I'm holly home fought that night of same night. The CONOR McGregor hot and she's one of my favorite a female fighters and she one which was really cool and she made as much money as cowboys. Rony that night fighting which I thought was cool because there's all this talk like with the the WNBA and all of that about how much money women are making versus men but in the UFC. If you bring the eyeballs balls they'll pay you. They don't care male female. What it's about? Yeah although I will say is it sexist of me that I'm just uncomfortable. Watching women beat each other. Those are the best fights really uncomfortable with that. I mean do those are the best fights women scrappy just just as by their power in focused and technique. Oh it's so great scratch and no hair pulling no. It's catching no not like a site hands feet knees elbows. I mean everything is just. It's pretty brutal. Yeah it's pretty well and I mean I mean there's a lot at stake to connor got paid more for that fight recently than everybody else on the card so he walked away with like three million dollars. Let's see was waiting and he was able to in the post game the motives So I keep said he had some proper oppor twelve conor McGregor. Did you try it because I never saw. I still haven't seen this. This commercial he did it and ringside whenever you have tried it and it's good I mean The people online don't have the same opinion. Apparently but I like it okay. It doesn't take much to drink or I don't. I've never tried any alcohol. Paul wow really entire life in my entire life I drink diet coke. I finally had to cut way back on my diet coke consumption all right. Well we've got something for you that you might want to use on the four minute buzz. That's out there because is This this is an amazing discovery is truly fat. How they figure this out? Did you see the genesis of this. So they found this mummy who was a a priest back in Egypt and and they shaped his voice box. They've they're able to extract his voice box or whatever and molded and then recreate what his voice sounded like so this. This isn't a joke. This is a real deal that they did researchers do. Here's what it sounds like. Is that impressive. For Modern Technology. We now know what a mummy south how much you. I miss that on the four minutes. The four weeks ago when I totally lost us that there you go all right. That's the voice of a mummy. We know you gotta get ready for the broadcast. So thanks for joining us. Certainly come in and and just Fox is going to be OK okay. I hope it'll okay. Anybody also has any scar remedies. Let me know okay. So we'll have you in here Regular basis on your voice and an discard. All right triple eight nine hundred thirty three thousand three also at PAT unleashed on twitter. Where jeffries chair? Bread red has a tip for Chris. CUOMO Greta thrust herself into the public eye and is demanding. Everyone change because she said so. The police this is son is not in the public eye and isn't demanding anyone do anything Good Point Jimmy 'em tweets Pat. You would think at some point. CNN would begin lowering the lifeboats. That's a sinking ship. ZIP The wonder monkey did anyone. Ask Chris Cuomo. How many many times Barron trump addressed the UN? Yeah bad comparison. They're afraid of doctor. Dr Divers Sixty three they were out of their depths and now they're in the depths of certainly not news or CNN pockets to the tune of millions. Oh Yeah Yeah Kelly pitching tweets. Most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map. Don Lemon could compete with miss teen South Carolina. Oh yes like such as Jeffey eighteens eighteen spoons clearly. That man the Police police officer that was addressing. The city council is not black. Wow that's that's insensitive. He said he identifies black and we have to roll with it. Exim black exactly exactly. He's just ashamed to be an Asian female or assist gender Mexican mastodon. That's how fun combination. The St Forty two point of stupid privilege. There you go. We haven't quite a privilege a personal privilege. Okay what a personal privilege sure. Please do not use gender language to cry to attract every wound up. Exactly what principal can the leftists in Miami argue with that COP. That's the great thing about this is. This is the world and the environment they've created now they get it to live in it and bask in it and wallow in it. This is the logical outcome of their identity. Politics Yep Lone Wolf Twenty nine sixty five. That officer isn't very smart. The winning move would do identify as race fluid. Oh Yeah then you can just change on the fly race fluid on gender fluid you can certainly be fluid. Yeah when I filled out the application. I was this box but today before the city council. I am this box I love it. How how and why not? Why wouldn't you triple eight nine hundred Thirty three thousand nine hundred and I didn't buy as a three thousand year old mummy at that. That's what I was alive. And that's hard to believe with all our technology that's what they come up with. Hey we found out what this money sounds like are wait a casio. That's an effect on a nineteen eighty. Five Casio you mean. That's mummies voice from three thousand. In years ago his name the mummy's name was Yaman okay now. Simmons voice has been reproduced as a vowel like sound. That is reminiscent of a of a sheep's bleat okay. So the the Egyptian pre free sounded like a sheep bleeding. What why would you think why how? And he was a priest so he he would give you know I guess servants or whatever sounding like a bleeding sh he lived during the volatile reign. Line of feral Ramsey's the eleventh between ten ninety nine and ten sixty nine BC. So we're talking about you. Know three over three thousand years ago As a priest in Tabs Nessie amun would have needed needed a strong voice for his ritual duties which involves singing and he sounded when he say Oh when he sang though. You sounded like this and so you had a wonderful singing. I mean that's wonderful. You know had they had the grammys the Egyptian Egyptian Grammy's back in the day he he would better recipient. I mean he would have given multi Alesha run for her money. Yeah absolutely when nasty allman died. His his voice fell silent but three thousand years on a team of researchers brought back to life. They've done so here's what they did. They produced a three D. printed invoice box based on nessie almonds vocal tract which was scanned to establish its precise dimensions by by using the vocal tract with an artificial larynx. Sound they since the synthesized of vowel sound meant to be similar to the voice of Sei. I mean how do you know. There's no way you you it possibly recreate as you have no idea this is ridiculous. It's believed believed to be the first project of its kind to successfully recreate the voice of a dead person through artificial means. Now how do they even know that. Yet that's what he sounded like nailed. It sounded like come on. I'm just trying to find how much this cost. I WanNa know that that any story. It's awful well it's like. Hey we recreated I mean it's not even as good as if they recreated shoe boxes voice the Laura out even that would be better than this You know I heard an interview with a guy one time who who who theorized that have. We went to the Lincoln Bedroom. And and and you you took the word from the old headboard in there right right and you. Somehow I don't understand I gotta go into the twenty years ago. I heard this that somewhere. Trapped in that would bouncing around is probably the Voice of Abraham Lincoln himself if we could just just figure out a way to extract that it's bouncing. Those waves are bouncing around in that. Would he said so really. Yeah that came to mind when we're doing this. I don't I think that's the case. I don't think I don't think his voice Johnson in the woods at some point it probably stopped and bounce out at some point like I don't know while he was still in the bed but anyway This was a university that did this. So it's got to be a cost somewhere somewhere out there there. There's somebody not reporting it is. The problem was a but is it an Egyptian university or think I in the United States. Stay now I think it was a Great Britain. Okay yeah they do stupid things like that all the time well And you know I mean these are people who don't don't mind paying for a family that pretends to still be in power and they pay billions of dollars to that family. The doesn't really do anything. So University diversity of York gather you go getting closer gay now. Find out the the amount Joe Biden. Spent two days in New Hampshire. Sure without taking a single question from a voter during a public event and walk past. The national media was waiting outside by his car to ask questions for about an hour and a half. They've been waiting there and apparently he hasn't taken a question in New Hampshire since since November so every time he goes to New Hampshire he just he does this areas Walking outside the church ignoring everybody questions and he doesn't care not a the word no not not. He can't even comment on the OPIOID epidemic. That wouldn't seem very difficult neca softball. Yeah yeah people shouldn't abuse opioids uh We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA really. Crackdown on opioids. I mean what do you say about opioid abuse trying to do in New Hampshire. I mean he's not sitting on a leader something no he's behind. Yeah he's behind Sanders. I think he's still ahead it of Elizabeth Warren soon though that's like a nearby state to hurt too so quick question for you based on the pulling that we had yesterday. Do you still see Joe Biden as Securing the nomination or are you confident than you were last week I still think it's going to be him. Okay I think so. You think you'll win either Iowa or New Hampshire. Maybe Iowa probably not New Hampshire last question. Because we're out of time. Do you think this is going to be a a floor. Fight at the Convention for the Democrats. I don't think so okay so you don't have it wrapped up. I think they'll have a wrapped up. Yep and we'll see I'll probably be wrong on all of that because look what. 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The Hateful Eight
"Crop it All right well. The young turks. That's how you start a show by looking down all right. Jank uber john zarrella back. All right let me explain. First of all co is a former editor in chief agenda bell and you know that and she's author of a new book white feminism from the suffragettes to influencers and who they leave behind fascinating. But you also know that. Because obviously she was interviewed on the damage report. You all watched it and you've already ordered this book but in case you've made the mistake of not ordering the book i would go ahead and address that mistake now. All right so obviously an exciting show for you guys. If you're a longtime you know. I come in happy. Just because i'm generally happy in life and then the rage bills throughout the show but the story we'll get it started off Nice and easy or nice in hard here Because of you'll see you'll see the title. Were calling a democratic senators that voted. Yes all right for that Weird introduction jonah takeaway okay. I think that's probably for the best as we hear you. I have been pushing for a bernie. Sanders did try to get the minimum wage increase. Fifteen dollars an hour. Minimum wage increase added as an amendment to the covert aid package and so there was a vote and every one of the centers had to go on record and so they did and they voted fifty eight to forty two to block it from being added to the covert aid bill which wait a second fifty eight. That's not how many republicans are and of course that means that a number of democrats also voted against it and here are those democrats and one independent joe. Mansion kristen cinema angus king. Tom carper chris. Coons jon tester. Gene gene and maggie all voting against adding the minimum wage increase to that bill. And i guess we expected that there would be some eight eight quite a few actually janke coa more than i probably would have predicted would vote against it. No i'm not surprised by the number and in some thought that that was a reason or excuse not to force a vote on this because well then those eight democrats would be on the record and the thinking. There was that well. Then it'll make it harder for the minimum wage to get past because they all went on the record is being opposed to it and it's going to make it harder to turn them no. I do not believe that that is the case at all. I'm thrilled that that the by the way. A huge part of this is no joke. No exaggeration was the ty t. Audience demanding accountability demanding. And and getting it now. What we would have preferred is actually have. The bill passed but we didn't get something very important accomplished here now. We know who the eight are. Okay so now. They're not hiding in the bushes anymore. Because that's some the game. The democrats always play wasn't humor. It was pelosi wasn't pelosi was schumer it was buying. It wasn't by was the parliamentarian. But we're never gonna vote. Were never ever gonna vote so you can't actually pin it on someone. Well now we know who they are. We know who dependent on instantly petition. Okay so there they are. Okay joe manchin. Surprisingly chris's cinema turns out to be the worst of the worst. Giving joe manchin run for his money. On most despicable democratic senator and probably winning angus king. Tom carper chris. Coons those irrelevant there from delaware. That's basically joe biden. Saying i never wanted the fifteen dollars minimum wage. Those are the two biggest allies that joe biden. Hasn't the senate that was biden. Doing a christmas cinemalike. Dance as they vote no John tester will show you the cinema stuff in a minute. Jon tester jeanne. Shaheen maggie hassen. Hey maggie hassen you've got an election in two thousand twenty two good luck. Good luck raising money from it because as you're about to see i don't think single progressives should ever volunteer for you donate for you not a single dollar. You got your corporate friends. You got it. You just told us you got it. I'm just going to rely. Corporations have added us. Okay and then And i don't think they should even be voted four. I got a petition on that. I'm curious what you guys think. 'cause i know the controversial part but what if a republican wins a so they could vote the same way okay And so the petition is ty dot com slash petitions slash the hateful eight and. Yes it's a play on the movie okay. But it's also because of the cinema dance and the purse and the cake and rubbing our faces in and mansion. Saying i will kill all of cove relief just to make sure you have lower wages and profiting off of it all the money that they all collectively make off of our lower wages. So if you're going to hate on us okay. Then you're the hateful eight and we're never gonna vote for you. Were never going to give you a single dollar. Go kiss more corporate ass and see how that turns out for you. That's my take on. Koa curious wait wait your take on it is. I know we're going right into the story. And there's so much more the jazz gonna tell us about this but obviously saying not even voting for them For some will be a bridge too far but once you're taking drugs. I'm disappointed by but like you. I'm not surprised. I think this is what politics often look like. Especially when you're looking along you know how people vote. I think especially given that this bill was tried presented during covid relief. I think is really pertinent. So we're talking about a very specific moment in a lot of people's consciousness with the economy labor and all these I mean i can see them more so trend pieces than labor pieces but specifically about you know how women are taking on so much labor with Cova and taking on you know all of this care work that they're not in compensated for And then effectively having to homeschool children than the event that they have any non you know. Clean the entire kitchen in the dishwasher. Do all the laundry and everything but on top of about just making sure ends are at making sure the keno people are food secure in. The housing is sustained I was reading late last year from the national Domestic workers alliance in the us specifically since kovic has happened. You're talking out like cleaners specifically in this country many of them who are mothers two small children who haven't been able to pay their mortgage or rent in six months because of lost work and so in some ways i think that has the capacity to overlap with like service industries And all these other places that clearly have a more like standardized is minimum wage as opposed to in some ways just like low income labor. But i think it's very revealing in terms of who you know. Certain democrats are often trying to play to win. There are opportunities like this because they are rare. I mean votes like this to at least like reconsider. The minimum wage. Don't come along all the time so it's really disappointing. But not unexpected of the eight. that voted. no it's been like i've been doing research to try to figure out since most of them haven't yet really explained it. This is american politics. They won't have to explain why they voted in a way that went against the interests of their constituents both objective and stated I've been doing research on each of them. The interesting thing is that almost all them say that they're in support of raising the minimum wage iphone. One article from two thousand fourteen. Main senators won't back down on minimum wage bill. They're going to fight to make it happen even though the republicans had voted against it and they've both voted against it. Now it's been seven years. There's still voting against it Maggie house and she was asked by maharaja She he tweeted. She wouldn't answer when i asked her why. She voted against effort. Raise wage to fifteen quote. I have long been supportive of increasing the minimum wage. I asked her what was wrong with this one. Enter aid interjected and said she's late for a meeting. He later added to that thread with a statement that her office had sent to him. That just said how much she's in support of raising the wage and she looks forward to an opportunity to do it. That's interesting tactic. Just say that you're for the thing that you just killed lenk. I was like trying to come up with like an analogy. And i think it's like if somebody who works scream at me. Why are you stabbing me. And i were to say i'm just in you. Keeping all of your blood. I look forward to future opportunities to maintain the integrity of your arteries. That doesn't help you as you're bleeding. And all so many of them have said have promised that they're in support of this but now they had an opportunity and they're not so interested but really fast. Let me throw one extra fact out jank and maybe this will help to explain it. can clip in stein was very helpful The legendary kinship inside for tweeting out the net worth of the democrats who voted down. And what are you know. They're not at all. They're actually quite wealthy except perhaps kristen cinema. We don't know for sure. But the others. Especially chris coons these are multimillionaires who are perfectly willing to vote down. A minimum wage increase during this devastating pandemic. Yeah so at first on that point yesterday we showed you a story that Our own typ. Investigative unit broke about how joe manchin is invested in potentially several companies that have lower wages One as low as eight dollars and eighty one cents on average for all their workers. And that's because west. Virginia's minimum wages. Eight thousand seventy five cents so mansion being generous guy that he is paid a whole six cents more than the minimum wage was virginia. So now he'd have to pay fifteen dollars out of his own businesses. So funny enough joe manchin decided i'd rather keep the money in my prophets. Pay my workers so lucky me. I'm a senator. So i get the vote on it and i'll kill it so that i can make more money. Although he apparently has plenty could see from that list as among the reasons why recalling the hateful eight so now on the maharaja point. I'm thrilled. And i wanna give him credit for the follow up because for forty straight years in this country. Corporate democrats have said. Oh we look forward to doing x. Right and then they'll vote against acts or they'll secretly kill x. Or they'll never bring it up for a vote and the reporters go dutifully report this democrat in favor of axe right and is a perfect example. And they're still doing it. Joe biden is a favor of the minimum wage. No isn't he just had his vice president. Vote no on including it in reconciliation. He had his two biggest allies in the senate vote. No as a sign of. Don't get me wrong. I joe biden from the state of delaware had my two top allies from the state of delaware vote. No because i'm not actually in favor of it. I don't like the only way that he could be clear of. Joe biden flow plane over the capital with that. You know the big banner that said. I hate fifteen dollar minimum wage. I never meant it okay. So if any reporter writes that. Joe biden's favor picking wage. They have hilarious view of facts. That's all turn it facts. And so and now the quote john is but all of them are over the top. We're gonna see the next story. The christmas story. She has quote from two thousand fourteen. Unconscionable not debate fifty dollar minimum wage. Unconscionable and evan reporter in the past now they're getting better. That's why i'm giving credit to the cnn. Report did a great job every reporter would democrats are awesome. They want the extra minimum wage comma. Hairs wants a fifteen dollars minimum wage. She just voted yes okay. They don't even point that parliamentarian don't work for democrats you don't work for republicans you don't work for politicians if you're a reporter do your job. It's called journalism and the headline should be democrats kill higher minimum wage because the republicans have no control. They couldn't have killed it if they wanted to. It was democrats who chose to kill. Just that's reality. I wish to god. It wasn't but it is. And by the way i wanna read you. Wide t pre new. Just a youtube super chat in the middle of the show. And i want to share it with you. Because it's such a good point by audience. He wrote could pledging not to vote for them. Pressure the democrats into throwing them under the bus and running candidates other than them in twenty twenty two. That's part of the reason to petition. Now if you do it right before the election well it's pointless because it has no chance of success that at that point it only helps republicans right but right now. We're two years out from an election. We have a thousand choices. Who run for the senate seats. They own over. Your ridiculously incumbent has surrounded why. That's not a rule. No these incumbents. Don't you know. What percentage democratic voters want a fifteen dollars minimum wage not fourteen twelve fifteen minimum wage. Not generally favour no fifteen eighty two percent. Well if you're against two percent of voters then you should not be the democratic candidate. So don't ever vote for them if they're not gonna look is is the bare minimum. We're talking about medicare for all green new deal. Those are great things we wanna get to those. They're saying no we were all lying. We're not even gonna do the smallest proposed progressive proposal. So take them at their word. They're liars and never going to do anything that they told you rubbing your face in it. We'll didn't you just say you. This is your quote about how you increase. She's like oh yeah. I want to increase it. That's why voted to make sure that we don't increase it. Oh geico find someone. Some other sucker's ty t. dot com slash petitions slash. The hateful eight never vote for them. Never make the mistake of giving them a doll co any final thoughts move on. I think those numbers that clips chain tweeted out or pretty revealing. And i think they really speak for themselves. I don't think there's anything more to say after you've seen that. Yeah okay well one more thing for you to see though some video that I think rightfully has been making the rounds online while a number of democratic sent while a number of democratic senators voted against including the minimum wage increase One decided to have a little bit of fun with it and so here is senator kristen cinema during the vote. Me cinema cinema. There's just so much there in that couple of seconds now look realistically her. Novo is basically exactly as bad. As all of the other no votes they all had the same effect of contributing to it not being included But if what you're doing is telling. I think in her state. I think there's close to hundred thousand people Working below that wage. That like why are you having fun with it. Why are you doing like a parody of john mccain who as despicable as he generally was when he did the thumbs down it was to maintain the at the very least. Why do that. Why do the little squad and have your bag as if you're just got. I gotta do this before i leave. I don't understand why doing the fun performative thing on this of all votes. Yeah so first. Let's also point out that she brought chocolate keagan. In case we were unclear about the analogy So she's the marie antoinette establishment. Let them have cake instead of higher wages. Well we appreciate senator cinema. That's very very clear. And john is exactly right in the word that he used what. You're seeing there performative now. You're thinking well who she performing for. She claimed to be in favor of the minimum wage before. Now she's making a giant showing like i'm for lower wages and rubbing your face in it. She's not like marie-antoinette because marine tournament genuinely clueless cinema knows the positions earlier. Touted the other position and knows. She's going to get a lot of attention for rubbing our faces in her. Not being a a real democrat. Well and that's your answer. So this entire performance is virtue signaling or perhaps the opposite of virtue signaling for corporations. This is to raise your hand. And say i have no virtue just like joe manchin just like the other six. But i'm going to do a whole big show intel over it and so this is what judges do if they try to. If they're right wingers and they're trying to get on the supreme court they will roll. The corporation can literally kill you. Coat cabinet ruled that and gorsuch ruled that anc corporations make note of that and so the chamber of commerce looks at that through the federal society in the case of the courts and goes. Oh these are vicious anti-worker pro-corporate people. Let's put them on the court. This is cinema raising her hand. I will do anything for corporate donors. Anything at all. And i'll have fun doing it and i'll and so i'll be your huckleberry and corporate donors notice that and go. That's it had a girl. Okay put move up to list. So maybe we'll run for president or something because corporate donors ruled all of washington so that explains of mystery of why kick us when we're down because she signal to corporations. I'm the worst of the worst. So make sure you back me for my higher ambitions. I only have two points to add one being that. If we're working in marie-antoinette analogies. I think it's important to note that there is not a clean opinion among historians as marie antoinette. Actually let them eat cake. And i think the record should reflect that She had a lot of very pronounced enemies both in court and outside and while she wasn't extremely privileged young woman who existed in court was married off as effectively property in a political pawn She i don't agree that she was necessarily clueless while she was definitely not a class conscious person for sure having said that with regards to the performance on the floor. I can't even put myself in that position. I i would listen to you. Any sort of statement she eventually gives after the fact but i think mostly what that speaks to is just kind of like the installation and entitlement. That can often come from roles like the this belief that you know. Even when you're being watched you're not necessarily being watched in the way that other people being watched and so you have footage like well. I i don't i'm sure she will make some kind of statement. I will say that. She tweeted earlier today. saying that she understands the hard choices that people have had to make during this pandemic Well maybe this is a hard choice for. I don't know And so one of one of the things. That's really confusing about this is you know. She's tweeted like first of all her own political history. She presented herself not that many years ago as like a radical progressive or whatever and that apparently is a long way now. But just like look at this tweet. A fulltime minimum wage earner makes less than sixteen k year. This one's a no brainer. Tell congress to raise the wage years ago and now. She's in a position to actually do it. But i mean going back even further Journalist ida travis. She re up this two thousand and two letter that kristen cinema publishing the arizona republic that says until the average american realizes that capitalism damages for livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods the wealthy the almighty dollar will continue to rule. It certainly is not ruling in our favor which kind of gives me like vibes of buddha. Judge writing that thing about bernie sanders billion years ago and then oh well then once you're in power. It's slightly different. I guess the one thing that i'll say that kind of loses me and i only sort of kind of touch base with this on twitter. Little bit is people who are like focusing on her bag which we talked about it and it's not a bag that you know like lots of minimum wage people can have but it's not a ten thousand dollar bag supposedly your bags like one hundred fifty bucks. Every guy in that room is wearing a nine hundred three thousand dollars suit. So i i wouldn't want focus too much on that like a ties. Eighty five bucks and it's not practical it anyway. So there's plenty that's obvious to focus on without focusing on her bag choice. I think i actually. I wanted to address her The tweet statement that went out with regard to individually. I support those. I think especially coming off the research of doing this book I think that her use of the individualized narrative to talk about what she would or would not support and decision. She's made in her own life when confronted. You know these kinds of choices are these aren't even choices. But like these exact realities. I think is very telling when you're talking about implementing systemic changes like everybody having a fifteen dollars minimum wage and what that would do in terms of Redistributionist rebalancing you know any sort of dynamics that are there the fact that she's invoking a very personalized stories. Who essentially eclipse that. I think is very telling as opposed with regard. You know her politics but also like how she is. Conceiving of this attention systemic change and what should be implemented to effectively eclipse at a not is like this these very personal choices. This very personal anecdotes. Which should be a huge red flag when there are decisions like this. That are coming up. Yeah so I wanted to comment on wood johnson. They're also because i'm gonna come back then a second so no. I actually think the bag in the and everything. That's part of that performance is relevant. Only because i think she intended it to be relevant so the size of the bag is almost more important in the price of the bag. It's so so if it was not part of a performance. I get offer us. Who cares what she's wearing bags. She has who cares who cares who cares. But she's with the curtsy. What the cake. She's obviously making a giant point. And the point is change on the house and this kristen cinema one oh one. She's practice change on the outside continuity on the inside and she knows the media generally looks at the superficial they're obsessed with superficial so the media will almost never criticize any votes. Because they'll say well it's not objective. A people have lower wages. They have higher as a reporter. I don't care at all and so if you want to crush the powerful crush the perilous neutral to that. So that's the ethos of journalism that i don't agree with so called journalism super. She knows that so she goes. Now let me give you something to talk about. I'm hip. I'm i'm young. I'm bold. remember because she was going for the radical thing and to be fair to her not immorally but intellectually she gets into washington as she got there by being pitching herself as a radical progressive. That's smart 'cause the majority of voters are progressive and cinemanow's noseda was. She gets into power she realizes. Oh no it's the donors that make all the decisions and have all the power. And if i want to remain as a senator and protect my incumbency. I have to serve corporations and she correctly adapts. That is removed from all morality. Right she adapts to the environment that she's in and in that bubble to. Here's the thing you might not know. But i have interactions with people inside that bubble. The bubble is super thick and that bubble says progressives are relevant. They have no power at all if you will have more power if you take progressive on your way. Just gratuitously so cinema is is correctly assessing the situation and going if i make giant show out of being young and hip they will tell all our viewers all their readers. The media will that i'm progressive. So that way. I can get their trick them into their votes. And then i'll tell the donors look at my votes. I voted with you. Guys in against my voters. Every time i'll get their money so she says don't blame the the player play blamed the game. And that goes back to a co was saying about marie antoinette. And it was not her power. It was the king's power louis the sixteen and that in this case you could argue as mansion but i would argue. It's joe biden. And i and i would go beyond joe biden and say no. It's actually the donors that control biden mansion. Their king the succeed. They're the ones were warning crisis cinema for rubbing it in our face. And that's what she's reacting to i. I will add that. I think that i. I don't mean this specifically to cinema. But i think that progressive politics quote unquote. However you're interpreting that across the spectrum of realities in issues has in some ways been flattened into a brand for politicians or celebrities or famous people of all For instagram influencers and so this ability You know kind of like what was said earlier that you can signal these you know certain While clearly voting them down you know in the same reality or not extending any sort of legislative support or funding. Or you know depending on what we're talking about abstractly I think that unfortunate Development the top in probably in the las like eight seven years depending on which part of the country that you're looking at and then like what parts of our culture is that you know some. Her aggressive tenants have become very trendy and their twenty in such a way that they're not substantiated with votes. It's more so about optics. How you appear and then like kind of like what was just being said about being able to signal to certain newsrooms that like you represent these values and i don't think it's isolated to politics unfortunately gets leaked out to a bunch of other industries as well as branding has become very pertinent. And i'm going to one couple last things about it because this is a great point by car so basically cinema saying i think the media is stupid and will help me okay because if i go with the trendy brand of progressive and they never tell anyone that i'm not actually progressive and an act the right way i'm trendy in both directions and i you know. The media basically works for corporate democrats in our dupes. So there's gonna be no consequences and my voters are never going to find out. And it's a tremendous is so to the media who usually just sits there and takes it and one of our members just wrote in. We do the show with you guys. I love being interacted with you guys. Genie Wrote in it's all about publicity. Cinemalike to others thrive on any attention. And so your junior right. She's clearly trying to get attention here. That's why we're talking about the size of the bag Matt gaetz came in with ridiculous suit and look like some sort of mafia capo right and so it was a way of saying. Look at me look at me. Look at me. So why would she want to draw attention to this terrible vote. Because she thinks there are no downsides. She's drawing attention to her being a moderate which the media rewards and to corporate donors saying i. I'll definitely do whatever you tell me to do. Which by the way again. Let's just be clear she's just being more ostentatious about it is true for ninety percent of politicians and so the ones made clear today. That's why we've got the petition. Typ dot com slash petitions slash. The hateful eight. That's eight democrats that voted against The minimum wage increase and then rubbed it in our face a and basically mocked us as cinema. Did and hence the title plus. Who was a good movie. i haven't seen yet. What are we. I break all right. Let's do that a lot more both fun and rage when we return. Shame shame qualcomm. We believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five g is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. Pc's the invention ages here. Learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age. Shame am three com back during break when we read your comments on youtube in and twitch and try to as much as we can in and i wanna thank everybody who just joined rachel marie arthur knocks rob mclane jessica my robin maclean also upgraded to premium. You hit the button below. Okay we got a post game for you guys today. You're gonna love it said but more importantly guys show together. Look at the change that we've created. We would have never gotten to see who the eight were if it wasn't for you guys so we can't do this alone and i love that we together. Okay so a little. Mac mc gee wrote in happy friday all seems like we have a list of need to be primary day sap example of ace being used perfectly appropriate way reference to the last school and if by the way remember the premium level on youtube or dot com slash. Join anywhere else. You would get that last episode of old school anytime. You want all right and jim says. Msnbc's already starting the bernese. A bad man stop for getting those little people's hopes up there now amazon. She's the worst their their way. Worse to cnn. They rival fox news. Maybe i think they surpass fox news for how much they hate. Progressives there on a twenty four seven warpath against progressives nonstop propaganda. So why why are they blaming bernie for this vote. Because they're so mad that their corporate democratic senator friends got exposed so instead of holding them accountable saying can you believe. They voted for lower wages. Msnbc has turned around and said. Can you believe that bernie exposed them for voting for lower wages classic. Msnbc are john okay so accidentally at the end of the damage for this morning. I forgot to read the community garbage person of the week and because more than twenty. One thousand of you voted. Here are the top three at six percent of the vote number. Three you have got Let's see madison cawthorn for being a sexual predator compulsive liar very good reasons that number two this week you've cpac for trying to kick off the end times of the golden idol. That's twenty one percent of the vote and number one with sixty one percent of the vote. Your garbage person of the week. Greg abbott for putting texans lives at risk again and doing it. So he'd love cool the republicans. Thanks everyone who voted okay We have a little bit more time so first of all. I love how many people voted on that keep going tracking squad. I'm just gonna read. One from twits. Shade and thorn says the righteous anger of jank andrew. Jank is coming. I'm here for i back on the young turks jank and with you guys today john. You've got more news. I i do. Let's jump right into it. The filibuster is standing between the democrats. Their voters all the promises they made and There's still enough democrats who will not support overriding. Actually do that. But maybe steadily slowly slowly Some might be changed their minds today. Senator tina smith tweeted. I've made up my mind. We need to move this country forward. And that's why. I've decided to come out in support of eliminating the filibuster. She went on to say in a facebook post to read a bit of it but the entire thing is available. I spent a lot of time thinking about this. And to be honest i started out believing we should keep the filibuster without it. I reasoned would stop a conservative president and congress from doing terrible damage to women's health care voting rights and civil rights but the more i thought about it the more i realized that the filibuster has long been the enemy of progress. In fact it's been a highly effective tool to thwart the will of the voters with a filibuster does allow does is allow minority of senators. To just say no to any idea. They don't like they don't have to negotiate because they can stop anything and that is i think so seemingly obviously true that i understand some democrats who want to keep it just because then they don't have to ever voted anything controversial To actually deliver for their promises as the my inferior their donors but there are two in particular Joe manchin kristen. Cinema that say no. It's a longstanding tradition. It leads to bipartisanship. It's just part of our institution. And i just think that is at best. An old timey myth ridden misconception of what it ever was but certainly what it is now and it's good to see some people willing to admit that they have changed their mind. I'm i agree with certain. Pieces of statement in terms of how filibusters have been used versus. You know how maybe they were originally envisioned but filibusters in general. I mean i'm for revisiting. Any kind of filibuster reform. But as far as i know. I mean this has been talked about for awhile. I mean maybe not as like publicly directly as this but if even just in the last ten fifteen years like what. Filibusters have effectively thwarted in terms of like gun control legislation. You know through all of the major platforms. That were cited in that statement. I think that's accurate. And i think it's long overdue to be revisited. In terms of filibusters are actually used in political discourse versus how they were designed so Couple things about this number one. I'm happy about the development great. We'll take it okay And i love to give credit where credit is due. And if she goes right way in time it'll make a big difference so i'm moving past her because mission accomplished on k. Now let's talk about the filibuster in general so number one. I told you on the show. Yesterday what i think the democrats are gonna do half of. Hr one is almost a must pass for the democratic party. It encourages more voting. It's great policy. It's true it's wonderful it's progressive. It's pro democratic not democratic party but democracy itself republicans can outvote us if they've got a more access to voting as well. It doesn't discriminate but generally when more people vote democrats tend to win. Republicans are in a panic over. So when joe biden says he's going to reach out to republicans. Tinker was it that makes no sense at all. All the republicans are one hundred percent opposed to it so but the democrats need half of that bill. The other half is wonderful and introducing the new varieties business unlimited plans. Now you can pick a plan for his lowest thirty dollars a month per line with auto pay get five g nationwide plus massive data capacity plus spam blocking features and with rise in business unlimited. You can mix and match the right plans for your business so you get more of what you need and none of what you don't from verizon. The network businesses rely on five g. Nationwide available in eighteen hundred plus cities most vc five g devices monthly proline pricing with five plus lines on biz limited start device payment smartphone purchase auto pay and pay for free billing required terms apply corruption measures and. There's no way the democratic party is going to pass them no way there. Most of the democratic party agrees completely with the republican party on the corruption part. They love the money in politics. They can't wait to work as lobbyists themselves. There's day so the trick they're going to do is they're going to say all we've got negotiate with the republicans and joe manchin wing So we're going to take out. All the anti corruption measures leave the voting rights. Pardon now don't get me wrong again. The voting part is great. I want them to pass that but yes it's also a democratic trick and then since they need to pass it and there's no way they can pass it through reconciliation because it doesn't have any into the budget. They're forced to kill the filibuster so that way they go okay good. I got rid of anti corruption stuff. I never believed in. We got past fifteen minimum wage. Which we didn't want to do with it doesn't hurt corporations at all. So they've given us a green light to do it and so we'll kill the filibuster and pass half of hr okay so that is my best. Guess as to how they're going to do it but they're gonna drag out this melodrama so that it is nearly the last thing they do so that they cannot pass any progressive priorities. And i'm telling you all this ahead of time. I'm laying out two years. What's going to happen at a time for gay if progressives don't step in and somehow alter the timeline k which is definitely possible but this is plan and so then that way. Bill passed no progress priorities. And then they'll lose the senate and the republicans will be handed. The gift of having no filibuster. So why do i say that. Why do i make that prediction. These are all based and facts and history harry. Reid killed a portion of the filibuster right before the democrats lost their majority in the senate. And i remember screaming on air winding sheet to confirm all the judges now that you can't conform. Confirm all those judges you're doing at the last when the republicans are favored to win in the next election. Why the hell would you give. Because the point is to help the republicans because they're more pro corporations. Now look you'll saying that last part you might find it because spirit oriel. But the bottom line is it doesn't matter they. All work for corporations that is that is what explains what otherwise seems inexplicable. Because just gone to go to jump in but the but the bottom line. Is there if you wanted to pass these bills. The ones that the democratic party said they were in favor of the one that joe binding comma harris ranna all those policies. You'd get rid the filibuster immediately. You would not wait until it's too late to pass any of them and my guess is that is exactly the plan of the democratic party my own piece to add there would be in thinking about certain pieces of what john said. And then you know just coming off talking about Cinema is that. I find a pattern. That is very dangerous. Exactly these conversations that we're having is when corporations try and tell us our history or try and tell us like origin stories of rights or politics history or marginalized people or anything In that kind of like discharging pointed out like they have a such different deeply. Different interests built by profit and so they have to build its marketing. They have to build like narratives with like a protagonist. You know that's very like binary good and bad And then you know that is shepherded in an effort to sell things or you know lobbies or you know campaigns or whatever and so a general piece that. I have found to be helpful in like not just ronald like this but also broadly in culture is just deciding early in my life that corporations would not tell me history because they're always going to have like a vested interest in a certain narrative to be able to solve something. Jank you wanna take her. Yeah i think we probably need to take our second break but when we come back we do. Have some video of charlotte bennett. Who's been talking about her experiences. Unfortunate experiences with governor cuomo. So we'll have that after this are Back during the break. I want to tell you about common room tonight. That's on twitch. Dot tv slash. Typ again if you got amazon. Prime is free for you. But we get the revenue so Take basil's as money and ironically spend it on progressives so Calling it hashtag baseless box. I'm not saying you should just say okay anyways for. If you're you don't need to be a member to watch any of these shows live onto which But if you're a member you can watch anytime you want so anyway common rooms tonight at nine o'clock eastern look got a co creator of the daily show and it's not even lives winston who comes on the show all the time it's medalists bird week you were filled with co creators. The daily show writer mark connec from the show archer is that journalists d- daniel freed and some other dude and a hat all right. That's okay so check that out. So now i'm actually gonna be speaking elizabeth again very soon. So yeah yeah see just it was a great host. And trevor noah is good But nobody remembers that actually the two creators of the daily show where women so so anyways now your comments r. e. f. In on youtube supergiant these eight are actually infiltrators republicans that claim any spells it in a funny way That claim to dem's while holding republican beliefs. Replace these people with justice taps. So that's part of why i don't mind telling you don vote for them number one there's primaries and they're gonna cry two years before a primary. Oh no you'll have to republican win. No wait who said you were going to be the candidate. We don't agree about it all second of all they give this a bipartisan veneer. So if you're going to help corporations in the same exact way the republicans are you might as well be a republican so there's truth in advertising and we know what we're dealing with and you can't hide your republican opinions in a democratic of and so that's why it's super important doubt them. There's already a okay. A were out of time. I love you guys. Talk outside to join. Your comments are so smart as usual. We'll be right back back. Nine turks change on a car with you guys So more important stories john forward. Let's get into it governor. Cuomo said that he has never propositioned anybody. Do you believe that he was propositioning. You yes or what sex. That was charlotte bennett. Charles bennett was formerly governor. Cuomo's executive assistant and a health policy advisor which considering other governor cuomo related scandals in the news is an amazing bit of political symmetry there She did a sit down interview with neuro donal. Now we've known quite a few quite a bit about the accusations against governor cuomo but there is always something powerful about seeing someone speak about their experiences. And so we're gonna show you a bit from that interview. you think. All this national attention may have emboldened him absolutely. I think he felt like he was untouchable. And a lot of ways bennett says their professional relationship took a turn on may fifteenth. Governor started asking her about her love life and then became fixated repeating over and over again her history as a sexual assault survivor. So he goes. You raped you. Were raped your raped and abused and assaulted. Another key. encounter happened on june fifth. When bennett says she was called into cuomo's office to take dictation and he told her to turn off the taper quarter and then he explains at that point that he is looking for a girlfriend. He's lonely he's tired. You've just finished dictation and the governor is telling you he's lonely and looking for a relationship yes he asked if i had trouble enjoying being with someone because of my trauma. This is seems highly inappropriate. Yeah the governor. Asked me if i was sensitive to intimacy in his office yes during the workday you have been quoted as saying that he also asked you about. If you've ever been with an older man yeah he asked me. If age difference mattered he also explained that he was fine with anyone over twenty two. And how old are you twenty five. Wow so similar in some ways to some of the other allegations against him but also going very hard into that focusing on her past traumatic experiences while producing a new one. What are your thoughts. I think that what is very revealing. at least you know what we know so far about these allegations and the various women who've come forward with you know very similar circumstances is that you know with the exception of one detail that i've read This doesn't seem to be about violating touch. And i feel like certain spaces specifically with like me metoo literacy understandings of power dynamics harassment and violation I watched especially when i was a jazz. You know this. I don't like this phrase as encoding like this need to moment sort of landing in this hypersensitive terrain of like not touching not hugging not leaning this very like thin protective measure. By which you know very powerful people mostly powerful men can like secure their positions and their money without like young women coming forward to say that you know somebody leaned into close to them. But i think that with cuomo. And what bennett has shared about her experiences. This is very tactful. In the sense that you're talking about taking down somebody's boundaries. Who is considerably less powerful than you trying to gauge. You know where their openings by which you can manipulate them in professional settings and more specifically. I think that there's lot of like tact there. I think that a frustration that myself and a number of other journalists who i've worked with throughout my career have felt specifically around news cycles of sexual harassment and assault in violation is in some ways powerful organization's powerful people. They're able to sort of adopt with the times in terms of the rhetoric they use. And then also you know fund measures like nda's that make sure that they can't talk about anything that happened and yet the actual power dynamics at the core which like your boss can call you into do dictation and then ask you in this roundabout way to like potentially be his mistress. And if that's appealing to you while you're sitting there with your work. The dynamics that are at the core of that have not necessarily changed. What i'm hearing when there are cases like this is that we've built in a sort of cultural framework by which you can skirt those same dynamics. And perhaps you know fray on a young woman or young man who doesn't have as much power as you an organization and yet still be able to say that you didn't touch them That you didn't break any roles that You were just mentoring them which we've heard almost in this case and so i think that's really pertinent. That when it comes to bennett. And i think a few other women were not necessarily talking about violating touch. I think that should really be top of mind for people as they're interpreting the story so a couple of things here First of all cuomo is not denied. Any of the specifics. So he has set a generic statement about you know if he defended people with joking around Then he's sorry for that but this is not joking around it's in the most advantageous framing for cuomo. Which i don't agree with it was flirting right and i know that a lot of guys out there especially from the old school are like okay. He asks and it didn't work out right. no no. You can't do that. You know work environment. So it's one thing if you think you're flirting. Although none of that sounded like flirting to me. I mean asking about her sexual assaults. Christ what is what are you doing right. And so but you surely cannot do it in an office context in when you're the boss and he's making it so clear i will have sex with anyone over the age of twenty two little. How old are you. You're over twenty two. Golly gee right. I mean it's so obvious and again he hasn't denied it and so one look. All of this is bad enough. It's all layered on top of one another right so one of them is the that shocks me is the abruptness of it to me that signals arrogance and what i'm worried about is it signals. How many i'm worried. How many times has he done this. What result has it produced because when you come into a person you barely know and they she just started working there so you have read the whole story. We've covered it in the past and you just come in with like basically i'm your boss. I just told you. Turn off the tape. I barely know you. And and do you want. And i wanna talk to you about sex sex sex and are you willing to have sex with older men. Wow like the people do. That's unbelievable to me and look at every part of it is wrong. If you've got somebody working for you. Who's a sexual assault survivor. You don't bring that up in a way in a way that is massively uncomfortable right if they want. If you've known each other for a long time and in that person brings it up and wants to talk about it. You could do that in a in a respectful way. But this ain't it and she didn't bring it up. You brought it up and you brought in the up in the context of of sachs not in the context of abuse. I don't know every part of it is really bad. Jank a good point you bring up with. This is when i hear these questions on. What bennett has recalled to me. It sounds like he's trying to extract consent from her Have you ever thought about the knicks with an older man. Have you ever thought about like it. He's trying to at least is what it sounds like to me like make earn active participant in this predatory behavior and to me that signals kind of awareness for what he's doing you know he's not trying to physically forceful with her. At least not instance that she's decided to share publicly so i think again like the. It's the power dynamic that is really grotesque here in that clearly. Bats being sanitized in that you know. He's calling her into his office and asking. But truthfully if you're a junior woman and a powerful man calls you into his office and like you wills your consent for something. Is it actually consensual. And i think that's an important takeaway from the story. Yeah yeah and sometimes. I explained it from the context of different groups. conservatives older generations instead of because there's different cultural context. And i wanna be able to communicate to everyone not just the progressives so guys you know i a lot of people react to this with like what. Hey what. we're not allowed to have an office. Romance no actually. You are allowed officer on this. But they're very understandable guidelines for it very very understandable. Like you should be able to get that pretty easily right. And so when let's say joe scarborough and mika brzezinski eventually got married and they had some sort of relationship and it was perfectly consensual and they did it all the right way so. Don't let people trick you into into false analogies okay. That is not this that this is a very senior person. Who's the boss of the building with a very junior employees. They barely know each other. And he blunders into a sex conversation which now there's two women who accuse him of that at the office one at a wedding. The thirty chooser does not work with him but he put her hands on her face in a way that made her super uncomfortable. The first says that he did try to kiss her. So it's like like. I said it feels like he's trying to figure out what his sense of the boundaries are and get right up to the edge of it and so yeah and and look it's not cute and that kind of boundary playing with the boundaries. Like that isn't working your intense seems clear. Yeah i was gonna say. I think another good point coming off of what jank said. Is that if you are working analogies. I mean as far as i know. Mika and joe our peers. I mean they are both household names and have immediate recognition of instead. So that's that seems to bring about to me on the outside like berry. Different interpersonal dynamics than you know again. A very junior employees being summoned into a boss's office by the very specific predatory dynamic versus a actual colleague who you collaborate with an who is appear at least as far as we can tell from outside think. That's all the time i got jank. We're out of time okay Kodak you're awesome. Be the only thing. Well let me just frame it. This way book is awesome so everybody rush. Out white feminism. I love the old school rush. Like you're actually going to go to the store. Okay your rush out to the tab closest to you click on it in any you know bookstore and go get wipe them all right. Thank you john thank you. Everybody got damaged report but apparently you already do okay Not a quick break. 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Legislating to Save Lives
"Hey everyone it's jillian democratic representative corey. Bush made history when she became the first black congresswoman for missouri unseating the clay political dynasty. She brought her background as a nurse. Activist organizer single mom and pastor to her new role and has jumped headfirst into advocating for issues ranging from reparations for black americans to texting billionaires to medicare for all she teamed up with massachusetts senator ed markey and illinois senator. Tammy duckworth to do so bill. That would bring together. Federal agencies and create a mapping tool to help allocate environmental funding from the biden administration. Just last week. She also joined forces with new york representative. Alexandria ocasio cortez to introduce a one trillion dollar bill to fund environmental justice projects for the next four years the urgency of the climate crisis in an environment environmental racism in demands that we have our our cities in our local governors funding And so that's what people should be paying attention to. We need to address this climate crisis. This is free money every community so use to fight the crisis and say they look at it that way they so this episode. We'll hear from senator tammy duckworth and congresswomen corey bush about three major environmental justice bills the environmental justice for all act. The environmental justice mapping and data collection act and the green new deal for cities act from saint louis public radio and pr acts. This is we live here. Hey everyone it's jalen. Thank you for listening to. We live here. Your support is more crucial now than ever so. Please consider making a contribution to saint louis public radio at we live here. Dot show and wilkie putting an equity lens on stories from saint louis and beyond support comes from the missouri foundation for health with the mission of improving the health and wellbeing of individuals and communities facing challenging needs learn more about missouri foundation for health at m. f. f. h. dot org two years ago on earth day illinois senator tammy duckworth launched the environmental justice caucus in the us senate. She co founded the caucus along with democratic senators cory booker of new jersey and tom carper of delaware because of environmental issues in illinois that disproportionately affect black and brown people such as the centerville sewage crisis anytime it rains as raw sewage. That actually backs up into people's homes are you can see twenty paper in people's yards and it's just literally decades are neck and basically this racist policies. In investment in infrastructure repairs an infrastructure upgrades dave out banded together with several other communities region very caught the cahokia heights a community and i have been working with them to try to help them win some federal grants in order to upgrade this talking to our governor up to try and get some state funding to come in and to really take these decision making policy makers and had her be really independent review of. Where do you really need this. The senate's environmental justice caucus brought federal attention to environmental racism paving the way for legislation such as environmental justice for all act which was first introduced by former california senator. Kamala harris was senators. Duckworth and booker as co-sponsors now with kamala harris and the white house as vice president senator duckworth has stepped up to be the lead sponsor of the bill which she reintroduced in mid march one does immense. Incitements straightens the civil rights. Act making sixty four. That discrimination based on despaired impacts overturns a court case so. This is a civil right and that we aren't infringing on people's civil rights when we allow them to be discriminated basic access to a clean environment also on existing legislation like the clean water act and the clean air act why explicitly adding language. That's that you have to consider humility impacts when you make permit decision. She explains that permanent decisions often result in black and brown communities having to bear the brunt of industrial pollution and environmental injustice hermit after permit after permit is granted and they actually mimic mimicking environmental. I a in the atmosphere the results in higher rates of asthma but one permanent time. It doesn't seem very much but for black and brown residents of neighborhoods in the southeast side of chicago which have been treated for decades as an industrial dumping ground. Even one permit can be too much. general iron. A scrap metal shredding company was once located in linkin park a mostly white middle and upper class neighborhood on the north side of chicago. It processed over seven hundred thousand tons of metal a year and could emit up to a hundred tons of volatile organic compounds a year which are associated with cancer birth defects and other health problems for years. Lincoln park residents filed complaints about fluff or dust. That would coat their sidewalks roads porches and playgrounds but during the pandemic they demanded that general iron closed their doors and leave in january general iron closed and left the north side then reserve management group. Bob general iron rebranded it. A south side recycling and sought to move the metal shredding operation to the southeast side of chicago within walking distance of a local park high school an elementary school but white neighborhoods. And we don't want you to be here doing this work here And so they denied the permit there and they requested hermit and is largely latino metric accident black community but because the permit this rule that says you have to look at the cumulative only look at the one permanent forgetting that we've actually had an auto on metals reclamation yard there has been waiting magnesium to the air. This area has been exposed to pet coke that this area has been has actually brownfields. In this area you know nobody looked at the cumulative effects black and brown community activists in the lower income. Mostly latino neighborhood point out that if the metal strapping company is to harmful for white affluent residents of the north side. It's also too dangerous for the black and brown lower income residents of the southeast side. The organized protests marches and teach ins to raise awareness about the plans to move the metal strapping facility. In february. they went on a month long hunger strike to demand that chicago mayor lori lightfoot deny an operating permit to the facility mayor lightfoot failed to meet their demand but there's now a federal investigation to investigate chicago's zoning and land use practices triggered by a complaint from southeast side residents to the us department of housing and urban development when we talk about black lives matter talk about civil rates structural racism in society especially after last summer equal in terms of the criminal justice. Big don't recognize. It exists just within the very structure of being slightly out doty code carpets and alike on that it is it is the black and brown communities that have been the places where we put almost leaving industries. Senator duckworth explains the federal legislation to address permanent and enforcement is important because black and brown residents are at a disadvantage when it comes to time and resources to fight back against polluting. Industrial companies have A plant that actually Means medical devices. A us gas. Ethylene oxide of there's implant in a community called burridge is very wealthy. Affluent white largely white neighborhood And then they were also and a welcome annoy which is largely ex community. The white community were able to band together activists Spare time the resources any we're able to demand and get monitoring to air there. But the epa never put air monitor in the in the latin extra muted even though those folks asking for it as well because he had more focus on the white community. the brown community that actually the city was actually contemplating a mole so that he could take its own Air monitoring to protect its own residents back structural racism as a classic example. We need to stop that. That's why the environmental justice for all act would create a working group. We're federal agencies can coordinate their efforts on health equity environmental justice enforcement of environmental laws and more acute administration's environmental justice executive order by creating a working group to ensure compliance and enforcement and to develop a government wind strategy. And it's not just the epa worries about it but in fact the department of defense worry about environmental justice as well so should commerce so should the small business administration it should be a whole of government approach to environmental justice. This perspective reflects a sweeping nature of the bill which also provides funding to study potentially harmful products marketed toward women and girls of color research environmental and public health issues in assists communities and workers in a transition away from fossil fuel economies for senator duckworth the bills effort to ensure equitable access to outdoor spaces and recreation hits home wheelchair user. I have a hard time. Accessing outdoor spaces especially national in the national league going through a process of meeting all jackson not all been that way in chicago when there was a study that came out about eighteen months ago. That said that chicago with a wonderful lakeshore on average has one day a year. Wendy lake shore beaches would be shut down due to poor water quality. And so if you're up north near the magnificent mile or some of the wealthier suburbs north. You may have one day here when that Back each might be shut down. But you're on the south side of chicago which is largely black community. They have an average of thirty nine days. A year without each shutdown. That's not fair. And even though much of the environmental legislation the senator duckworth is proposing aims to mitigate current harms. She's also working toward a better environment for her daughters. Six year old daughter and a three year old daughter. I went down to have a better environment. The one i grew up in in their seventies eighties in the one that we're living in right now. I wanna carbon neutral future before they become adults You know. I want us to get to the place of environment or something. They can enjoy him. And i hope to debut read about environmental pollutions and and all of that in history books. And and and i wanted to be available to all. Because i want my daughter's experiences but i also want their friends having no matter where you'd be living the subjects well senators tammy duckworth and ed markey have teamed up with congresswoman corey bush to introduce another major piece of environmental legislation. So we'll hear from congresswoman corey bush about the environmental justice mapping and data collection. Act the green new deal for cities act. And why saint louis should be at the forefront of the fight for environmental justice. Hey ruin it's jalen. Help us keep the show going by leaving a review wherever you get your podcasts. And let's keep in touch on social media via facebook twitter and instagram at we live here. Stl thanks when corrie bush became the first black congresswoman for missouri. She said that her win was about the everyday person from saint. Louis my promise to saint louis was there. I would do the absolute most for each and every person starting with those who have the very least and that this work would be bold transformational change that we will be working towards so every single thing that we do. We look at it from the lens of what saint louis needs. That's why her team jumped at the chance to partner with senators ed markey and tammy duckworth on the environmental. Justice mapping and data collection act of twenty twenty one. The bill would create a tool to help. Direct forty percent of biden administration environmental related funds toward communities most impacted by environmental racism disc. Something that has to happen to make sure that our communities that are oftentimes the ones that are overload or Left out left behind when we talk about What is needed to better our environment. What is needed to help. And then also we talk about the climate crisis period and who's most directly affected but then who are the ones that are behind all of it. You know making sure our communities get what we need. This is the step being able to have this committee. You know this committee where representatives from the epa and the bureau of indian affairs and In so many other groups to be able to have that to be able to make sure that we are touching every area of our community is This is a great thing for us. The environmental justice mapping committee would bring together representatives from various federal agencies and departments to establish a tool that maps environmental justice communities across the country based on the added impacts of indicators such as demographics public health pollution burdens in proximity to hazardous waste facilities and fossil fuel infrastructure. The committee would also direct federal agencies and departments to conduct audits to identify that relate to environmental justice concerns including killings of individuals by law enforcement officers at least so many people across saint louis to live in a lethal environment. You know we live in an environment where we have to wonder. Not only if. I walk out of my home. You know could be shot and killed by police but also in my own hall you know. Could something happened while. I while i'm sleeping in my bed. So this it. We're talking about what affects your environment. The environment around you. So that includes gun a gun. Violence communal violence. It affects any. We're talking about anything that is going to Vets in our environment. That changes or affects. Our way of life is so police. Violence has to be a part of the end for us. It was it was Important to get this in in this bill because saint louis is in has been for so long number one for police murder in the country per capita and then also fluctuating number. One number two. You know oftentimes per capita for For hamas so the it. This was something that our community needed representative. Bush adds a saint. Louis needs funding to address environmental justice. Issues she's optimistic about the return of earmarks which allow funds to be targeted towards specific projects within spending and infrastructure bills remarks have been banned in the legislative branch over the last decade over concerns corruption and transparency but now democrats and republicans have brought them back with new requirements. Lawmakers have to make requests for earmarks public and they can only make ten requests which can't benefit their immediate family members. Overall earmarks can't surpass one percent of annual discretionary spending. But that's still comes out to over ten billion dollars to secure even more funding for environmental justice initiatives last week representative bush and your representative alexandria. Ocasio cortez announced the introduction of the one trillion dollar green new deal for cities. Act of twenty twenty one. The green deal for cities Is is a way for us to make sure that all things they were asking for one part of that i have to say Is the part where we're saying that we want to make sure that the money that is being used at those resources that will be coming to. our communities. Cities or counties are are states territories tribes that that money is going to be used in the areas that are not where money is not gonna be funneled to law enforcement any type of law enforcement that that money in that fifty percent of those investments are gonna go directly to those frontline communities who needed most. The bill defines frontline communities as predominantly communities of color low income de industrialized fossil fuel or tribal and indigenous communities that experience or are at risk of experiencing greater impacts of climate change environmental effects or health problems representative bush believes that such significant investment is necessary to fund projects that save lives but remaining lead and mold developing infrastructure for clean drinking water air quality monitoring and flood prevention and creating hundreds of well-paying jobs for american citizens indigenous the other fifty percent of the funding as designated for climate mitigation policies or activities that aim to reduce the impact of greenhouse gases on the climate but representative bush and her colleagues might face significant challenges in passing such major legislation. I'm all for a totally eliminating the filibuster. I know that there's talk back and forth About making sure that you know we get some type of reform And i do agree that we need something to happen right away. So the talking filibuster You know. I know that it is on the but we're talking about from workers rights to reform we have a mandate to deliver on this boat agenda that we promised and so You know looking at this pandemic people looking at the pandemic looking at the economic pain and looking at how many people are hurting right now. This is our chance to make good on. Our voting made good on voting rights. Make good on climate just as worker protections gun violence prevention like policing meaningful impact on the lives of everyday people. And i don't believe that we can do that by trying to cut up the filibuster to say we can keep it here. We can keep this part. We can remove this part. We need to make sure that the american people know that congress is fighting for them and the only way to fight for them to make sure that our lgbtq community that that those those rights are protected to make sure that we get the george floyd in a policing act. Get that we get through that. We get the proactive. The so many so many of so much legislation of this going to affect regular everyday people with on the table In insult right now. I'm pushing to totally eliminate it You know this filibuster for you know making sure people understand this is the jim. This is a relic of jim. Crow has been used to star racial equity and justice and it continues to be a tool of obstruction to this day. Is i can't play with. Let's do a piece unless you know we're going for all of it right now. In the past the filibuster has been used to oppose anti lynching legislation and the civil rights act of nineteen sixty four. This week representative bush and nearly a hundred house. Democrats called for senate democrats to end the filibuster and remove obstacles toward passing legislation on i ranging from voting rights to worker's rights to immigration reform as she continues to push for change in congress representative bush as motivated by her conviction that saint louis should be at the forefront of the environmental justice movement. I have seen so many amazing environmental justice activists You know just doing the work making their voices heard you know right now looking at what has happened with coldwater creek looking at what happened with on west lake landfill You know in the work that has happened. Because our activists locally have pushed you know That is the work of of those activists because gun violence is what gun. Violence is right now. You know looking at where we are. And like i said before number one number two for homicides all you know we're always at the top for violent crime at the top of the list. Were always at the top of the list for. We're at the top of the list for the murder of children in this country so because our environment affects affects us. This way where we're living in the lethal toxic environment we should be at the forefront and not only that You know as a as a black woman in this country. It was imperative for me to stand up into use my voice when i am trying to save black lives. I'm working in legislative. Segued black lives in save lives to say translates to save in digit. The lives of indigenous folks. I can't do that in not address was happening in our environment we have. I am three that you know that is just up river from us. We have to talk about our environment for. It's about saving lives. My work is to create a joyous environment where clearly watering cleaners. Not a thing where there where black children in saint louis are not ten times as likely to enter a er. You know More than White children that that's not that should not be alright are reality because of asthma. You know because of the land and because of arsenic because the method that shouldn't be our best should not be our reality Oh a world where a community where We don't worry you. Bow gun violence. We're not worried about whether the police will See us as a threat just because just because he exists. You know that type of a world a world where we have We have healthy foods that we are. All of our children are able to access one where we don't have community members sleeping out on the street because they don't have a whole like that's the kind of world that we're trying to build and we're trying to build it in so many ways so whether it's through Environmental justice legislation arm of other pieces. This is what we're going to do it so we can improve installation in homes. We can whether. I you know to make it better for people as they as. They're just living their lives. That's what we wanna do approving air quality. We deserve it like this. This is what we need. And even the small things like land and mold remediation being able to breathe and being able to have Have a quality of life each person deserves. I was told that i would be accepted when i walked into congress. Those you know. I won the seat from an incumbent. I was told that i would be shut out in my daddy would not talk to me. I would not get all the comedians. I wanted and all of these things but when action when i got even before i got there. The welcome was amazing. People were like you know what what happened happened. But you're you're now. We need to do the work to work together. So that is the sang thing that has happened now. Working with the administration president biden that is our president and that is the person who pose the pen to be able to bring home. What saint louis meet only here to make sure they're me get as much as we can get ali chair about the people of symbols. I love so dearly and people all across this country install. I'm working with president biden. And yes he's doing. Some things outsold glads as the apple. I'm so glad but there is much work to do when we don't agree on everything and that's okay. That's why i'm here to use my voice and to help make sure that the white house that his administration knows what we need directly and let me say this. My conversations with the white house have been just that st louis needs this. This is happening in louis. I don't care what we're talking about. I don't care if it has anything to do with the with localities in that way or not they're going to hear about listening feet and that is my best. The reason why i'm here. The people voted for me. Because of that. In austin i was taking with me and i do so because no respect of person. I don't care what your title is. You know. that won't back me down telling what saint louis needs to this we. This show is produced by me john. Yang and my co-producer lowenbraun. Thanks to mid saint louis public radio reporter for the metro east area of illinois for co interviewing senator. Tammy duckworth with us and huge. Thanks to jason. Rosenbaum politics correspondent for st louis public radio and co host of saint. Louis public radio's politically speaking podcast for co interviewing congresswoman corey bush with us and collaborating with us. On this episode. You can listen to the politically speaking episodes with senator duckworth and congresswoman bush at stl dot org or anywhere you podcasts. Saint louis public radio is a member supported service of the university of missouri. St louis from saint louis public radio. Npr x this is. We live here support for this. Podcast comes from the corporation for public broadcasting.
A Big New Idea to End the Border Crisis
"I'm ryan grim. Welcome to deconstructed when donald trump's policy of separating children from their parents at the southern border hit the radar of the national median twenty eighteen. What followed was one of the more embarrassing revealing press blunders in recent memory some national news outlets illustrated their coverage of trump's border policy with harrowing photos of children in cages wallowing deplorable conditions. The photos sparked outrage around the world. Get before too. Long people started to realize an inconvenient fact. Some of the images were of children cage during the obama years swept up in a wave of border crossings by unaccompanied minors twenty fourteen. Those photos which had long been public had produced little in the way of outrage back. Then now deliberately. Separating children from their parents as trump did for the explicit purpose of terrorizing them and discouraging further immigration is a crime under international law but it is also horrifying that our immigration policy led to children being kept in cages in two thousand fourteen and in plenty of other years and while it's true that prior to trump children who wound up detained alone came here unaccompanied already separated from their parents. In most cases that separation wasn't exactly voluntary. It was forced on them by economic desperation and violence sewed by political instability corruption and climate collapse. The media's photo mishap and the reaction to it suggested that democrats were concerned less with the plight of migrants and more with which president was responsible for it. I feel like. I have a bit of credibility on this question because in june twenty fourteen. Along with my huffpost colleague jen. Banbury was the first national reporter to document those kids in cages. I had been chasing the story. When a reporter for breitbart texas brandon. Darby beat us to it and posted those harrowing photos. I reached out and asked if we could republish them on our site. He agreed we authenticated them and made it our top story back when the huffington post top story would drive the news cycle. I wasn't excited about promoting anything from breitbart though breitbart texas is a bit of a different beast and has done some genuinely decent border coverage either way it was important to let that get in the way and it didn't matter to me. As a journalist that obama was at the helm it was still a humanitarian catastrophe. The one upside of all the outrage trump. Who did indeed take the evil to a new level is that progressives and democrats now understand the necessity of dealing with this situation. It's too shameful to ignore any longer but to think of it as simply a temporary crisis is wrong. Northward migration from central america is normal. It's here to stay. And as the climate continues to collapse it will only increase. Our immigration policy will have to grapple with that reality and that means we have to think completely differently about what our immigration refugee and asylum system should look like at the border. We have to think much more expansively about our tps program which stands for temporary protected status tps gives migrants protections if they're coming from countries where it's generally too dangerous to return. We have to ask a very basic question. Why are cops involved in the process of caring detained children in the first place. What possible justification could there be for that arrangement so far. Joe biden has barely scratched the surface of these questions last week. Our episode laid out the parallels between the immigration from ireland during the potato famine in the eighteen forties in the immigration from central american. If you haven't yet. I'd encourage you to go back. And listen to that episode as the background for this one we had planned on including interview with congress wound veronica escobar. Who represents the border city of el paso texas but she had to cancel last minute in order to tour new facility being set up to house unaccompanied minors while they're being processed. If you've been following the border story at all you've no doubt heard again and again that joe biden softer tone immigration is the reason that so many people want to cross into the us these days. It's a point. We talked about on the show last week with john. Washington and jose luis san's and it's a point that representative escobar tackled in a press conference in texas on monday for four weeks. The national media has been focused on to joe biden. Being a nice guy caused this just a week or two ago we had eighteen senators parachute into a border community in south texas. I urged the media to ask them. What have they done to bring forward solutions on tuesday. She was able to join us to talk about the current situation and what needs to be done congresswoman escobar. Welcome to deconstructed joining you toward the central facility. This morning What was what did you see there compared to what you had seen before. You know. I'll tell you i've spent a lot of time inside those facilities throughout two thousand nine hundred and i've started going in Pretty frequently As soon as it became safer under covert regulations. When i got an accident In twenty nine thousand nine. I think this is a very important to to meant. Remind the american public about twenty nine thousand nine. We saw conditions that from my perspective where human rights abuses children. Who were wearing the same clothes that they traveled thousands of miles a day wearing them throughout their stay in our processing centers. They didn't have access to toothbrushes. Didn't have access to showers. Didn't have access to hot meals. Snubbed them or being held outdoors in triple digit temperatures. You know the hot south west el paso sun same thing happened during the winter months being held outdoors or and insufficient visibilities so while it is absolutely never appropriate to hold a child in consigned buildings. I think it's it is important. For the context that are supplemental. Funding did improve conditions somewhat. So kids now have access to hot meals to more thorough medical screenings. So no longer. Do you just smell humanity. You know when you walk into those facilities. It was really was inhumane them. So the conditions are better on there being held in shelters for shorter periods of time you know the trump administration put up all sorts of obstacles. China prevent families from being reunited. the biden administration is approaching this in the opposite way. Doing everything possible to quickly and safely get families who are here in the. Us reunited when i visited shelters and twenty nineteen. I spoke to kids who had been in those shelters for six months. Nine months i met kids who had been there for a year yesterday. I toured some of the shelters. Kids have been there two weeks. The managers of facilities that are average. Stay before they can get them with their families about thirty five days. So there's progress. Is it still unacceptable. It is but there's progress kids aren't supposed to be in there for longer than seventy two hours to the people that run these facilities try to hit that target and what's the consequences if they don't here's what happens today today. A border patrol agent. Stop a child or a group of children and they take them to what's called the central processing center at the central processing center. Kids are still under border patrol custody. They're put what are called pods large rallies. They are given fresh clothes. Fresh food shower. Toiletries et cetera. All those improvements that we talked about but they that's they're not supposed to be held for more than seventy two hours because those are just not great conditions for children. What is supposed to happen. Is they're supposed to be very quickly. Processed in other words on assessment made about whether they have a criminal history and whether they have a sponsor in the country if they don't have a criminal history if they have a sponsor in the country they're supposed to very quickly be moved into. Hhs custody and they're supposed to go to a shelter and shelter is a much better situation for kids. They have their own bed their own bathroom access to mental health care. Primary healthcare workers. Who are working to quickly reunite kids with their family or their sponsor. But what's happening. Now is because the trump administration essentially ignored the increase in number that began in september and because of covid and they were. They were basically telling shelters that they should only operate. At fifty percent capacity earn some cases twenty five percent capacity shelters the licensed facilities that kids should be in while they wait their family folks were laid off and the bedspace was kind of shutdown and instead of finding other shelters in order to ramp up and still follow. Cdc guidelines the trump administration just did nothing and so month after month after month as the numbers have been increasing The shelter space has capacity has not grown to meet the needs. Because there's there were. There was a four month lag And so the the biden administration is doing everything it can to build what are called influx facilities. Those those facilities that succeed on dirt. They watch the news. The big white ants that are. Hhs facility so they're better than cb pete facilities because at least in in hfs influx shelters. You have hhs personnel caseworker. Mental health. care workers and they're not being detained by someone with a gun and a badge who is a law enforcement agent trained for completely different functions up. So they're doing the best that the the the biden administration is doing the best they can with what they inherited from the trump administration and with the increase in kids. My view is. I don't think kids should should be. Cpi custody at all but that would mean a complete reinventing of the system would a reform system look like comprehensively reformed game rushton We have to acknowledge that there have been cheaply policies foreign policy failures mind migration issues in our hemisphere. There has not been any sort of strategic concerted effort new rain together all of the leaders of this hemisphere to think through migration as it's been happening over the last decade we have got to re engage from a very smart foreign policy strategy. Engage everyone in the western hemisphere but we also should rian vision the way that we address migration at our front door. I don't believe that children and families should be in vp custody cbs. P. and border patrol have the ability to do very quick background checks even quick fingerprint checks to determine whether or not a child or family members are national security threats. The vast majority of them pose no national security threats. And so why are we as a country then apprehending and putting them into custody in criminal like conditions and warehousing. I believe they should very quickly be moved to. Aj custody and once in hhs custody. I believe that they should very rapidly. Have access to counsel and the migration policy institute under doors. Meisner had this interesting proposal. I don't agree with all of it but the proposal from m. p. i was have a silom officers basically adjudicate those cases. I think that is actually a smart strategy. But what i would add would be the legal. Every every child i think should have access to counsel. As their case they're asylum hearing is adjudicated and they should have the right to appeal to a judge and i think if they decide to appeal than they should be released on alternatives to detention. And i think this would. This would shrink the number of people in c. Bp custody border patrol could get back to performing their law enforcement functions instead of the mission creep. Which has happened now. You know where. They are basically holding families in kids while they are untrained to do that and don't have the resources or the facilities for it at the same time ryan. We have to acknowledge that. Over decades as we have limited access to legal migration we have essentially fueled illegal immigration and we have fueled those opportunities for human traffickers so if we want to limit undocumented immigration and if we want to lessen the power of the criminal organizations that traffic in these loanable solve than we need to open up legal pathways for people that means considering tps for example for those families who are fleeing the climate catastrophes in their jen on that means opening up refugee status for family reunification and that includes families who have been here without status but who have been contributing to agriculture construction hospitality etc. You know we have benefited as a country from their labor from their work from their commitment so it is a far more holistic approach. I think it's it's obviously an ambitious approach. It would completely re envision the way that we approach the situation especially at our front door to see. Bp would resist that approach. No they claim to not want to be in the business that they're currently in. But do you think that's true like you think some of them has has come to cherish this role. They're playing. You know. I i will tell you i think that that. Yes jan. screw your question. I do think they would resist this. Because you know ensuring the central processing center today with with some of my house colleagues and with one of our us senators. I mentioned that. I mentioned it. In front of a group of border patrol agents and one of them you know as i was walking out approached me and he expressed concern about it. How so what. What was his concern. Goes his objection. His view was you know been. How are we going to investigate. Basically fraud cases and i said i think there's a way to do it and i i think right now what's happening is the reverse of what should be happening. We are keeping children and families in what feels like criminal custody and the vast majority of them are are there. One violation of the law is a civil violation and you know with if they want to request asylum or seek asylum. We are really limiting their ability to do it. And so let's do the reverse. Let's put them in. Hhs custody so that we get them out of your custody so that you can do your job. And i told him surely you don't like the mission creep. That's been happening. I mean you guys have had to care for children. And and i will tell you ryan i had agents complained to me for years about that. What do you think that divide is among cpa itself but the within the agents and also the difference between the leadership and the agents on this question. You might experience as so many of these agencies are really hard working dedicated law enforcement men and women and they want to be able to do their job and they believe in their job. And i know a lot of these folks i mean obviously not every single border patrol agent. But you know with some of the agents of my generation. I went to school with them or college with them or high school with them. You know have gone to church with Border patrol agents and federal law enforcement is inherent in border life. These are a lot of our community. Sees a lot of these jobs. And i have met many of these agents especially in my role as a member of congress over the years and the vast majority of them i would tell you are very good hearted. Just wanna do their job and they've hang their hat on the fact that they've been trained to do a job and they just wanted to do the job. They were trained to do there. Are i think some very corrosive toxic people it within border patrol as well i mean has has the leadership turned over in in the sense that they recognize that they actually have to be subservient to the new civilian government. Or are you getting the sense that they feel like they're kind of still out on this border post and they don't answer anybody but themselves. I'll tell you that the minority. That is to me very dangerous. And i couldn't tell you the breakdown you know. I think the agents that i talked to. Who are you know. good folks. i don't know. What percentage they make up within the agency but the really dangerous component in the agency. I have long suspected collaborate with the border militia collaborate with people who want to snow souls who can chew our custody. I believe that there is a component that wants to obstruct. President biden's efforts and secretary may off gases efforts and would love to see a more compassionate approach fail and completely embraced and celebrated the cruelty of the trump administration and their approach. And it's it's those sick forces that i am very worried about. I have also heard from people in washington who would know this that. There are a number of on followers within border patrol. And i deeply threatening as well. How high up have you heard it. Goes you know. I'm still asking questions so i don't know how high up it goes but i think that there needs to be a deep cultural change. There needs to be rooting out of people who were instrumental in coming up with policies that were intended to be cruel. Think we had some of those forces here in el paso there have since been leadership changes but unfortunately what happens is people get transferred and they get promoted and they move on and there's no accountability. Oh it is very very difficult to have accountability. And i've told members of the community. That is not good for the good agents. The people who just to do their job that people who believe in their work it same general local law enforcement we should create deep rooted accountability because it roots out. Those who should not have a gun or a badge ended up lists those who are doing their best to do good work. Are you considering legislation. That would kind of rewrite the way that that this has done. Is there anybody in the house or senate who is fundamentally thinking about this beyond slogans. I have a bill a very kind of fundamental. dhs reform bill. It does not reform the system in the way that i've described it to you that would take by in from committee. Chairs and i have already reached out to the chairs of the committees that have jurisdiction over this and have told them that that the soon as we get back to dc. I would like to sit with them and lay this out. I really do feel that. This is a moment of reckoning and it is a moment of reckoning where we should recognize our colossal failure in the past but the opportunity in the future during the trump administration there were. There were a lot of calls from democrats and from activists are saying this is not just a failure but this is something that needs to be prosecuted. There's so much cruelty in negligence going on so kind of two parts one is. Is there still talk about potentially prosecuting people for an in in the past for what was done. And how long would you give the biden administration or the dhs leadership or the c. b. p. leadership to improve this situation similar calls were made this time around to the accountability and prosecution question. I think stephen miller should be behind bars. I think he committed heinous human rights violations. And i think that those around him who helped plot this out should be accountable as well. That is going to be very difficult. But it kills me that these people could potentially walkaway and even potentially rebuild their reputations. I mean it's I find them to be just among the most reprehensible abhorrent people that our generation could have ever produced to your second question. I am good. Frequent communication with the biden administration on what's happening and as long as i continue to see progress and movement in the right direction and input from folks on the ground including advocates and attorneys who shoulder the consequences of horrific policies right alongside their clients and the migrants who advocating for as long as the administration is moving in the right direction. I will keep working them. And we'll keep providing them with other ideas for reform and for forward movement. But if at any point i feel like we are sliding backwards or they're not absolutely every resource and effort being put toward a more humane and compassionate system. That does justice our values. I will be among the biden administration's loudest critics will congresswoman escobar. Thanks so much for joining me. Thank you that was congresswoman veronica escobar in that same press conference that we played a clip from at the top of the show. She was asked by reporters. She'll be inviting. President biden down to visit the border anytime soon to ask the president or the vice president. Now i i have. I have the happens. I'm sure we discussing it right here. That's our show deconstructed production of first look media and the intercept our producer zach. Young laura flynn is are supervising producer. The show was mixed by brian. Pugh theme music was composed by bart. Warshaw betsy reed is the intercept editor in chief. And i'm ryan grim dc bureau chief of the intercept. If you'd like to support our work go to the intercept dot com slash. Give your donation no matter. What the amount x. Real difference if you haven't already please subscribe to the show you can hear it. Every week described already. Please duly rating or review. It helps people find the show. 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The Kushners Freddie Mac Loan Wasnt Just Massive. It Came With Unusually Good Terms, Too.
"WNYC is teaming up with NPR to bring you a new daily podcast. Consider this. We'll bring you the biggest news stories and what's happening in our community to help you make sense of the day subscribe to consider this wherever you get your podcasts. Hi Andrea Bernstein Co host of Trump Inc. before we get started today I, want to take a minute to talk about the journalism we do here it has been a big year for us and our open investigation of corruption in the business of trump we've reported on impeachment criminal probes, the trump organizations, problematic business history, and how the federal response to Corona virus tracks trump's business model. Now, we're focusing on the way people with huge amounts of money power and influence are trying to shape the twenty twenty election. And we can't do that work without you. 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To donate go to trump INC podcast dot org slash donate or simply text trump inc two, seven Oh, one oh one and we'll send you a link or you can donate. Your contributions are a vital part of how we do this important work. And thank you so much for being part of the trump team. Now onto the show. Listener Support W. nyc studios. In the fall of two thousand eighteen KUSHNER companies family real estate business of presidential son-in-law. Jared Kushner had just unloaded its marquee skyscraper six six, fifth. Avenue in Midtown Manhattan. The debt burden had become untenable. So, the company was looking for a new line of business and decided to invest in an area that had once been the foundation of the company's business model. Suburban multifamily housing. In needed hundreds of millions of dollars in financing to consummate the deal. So it went to Freddie Mac the government-sponsored lending agency. They said, you know we're interested in buying eight of these properties What do you guys think this is heather Vogel of propublica Freddie Mac people mostly called Freddie works by buying up loans from primary lenders who can then go on to make more loans. Wants Freddie buys up loans at packages, them and sells them to investors the bulk of the day Freddie Mac cells as backstopped by the federal government. Which means if the loans default taxpayers could be on the hook, Freddie started doing some preliminary, getting the deal getting some quotes for Kushner companies, and then Kushner companies came back shortly after and said, Oh we WANNA buy sixteen of these properties not just eight. So now the deal was getting really really big. So Freddie said Okay let's investigate that deal they came back with some quotes but then for reasons, we don't know Kushner companies said. Never mind. and stop pursuing Freddie Mac financing. Then by February twenty nineteen. Interest rates had dropped. So then actually on Valentine's Day in twenty nineteen Freddie Mac was contacted by Katya that's the primary lender recap. Which is a Berkshire hathaway company said. That deal we were talking about. Let's discuss it. Six days later, they did there was a meeting on February twentieth. It was about a business plan for the assets, the track record and a general overview of the Kushner companies. We know all this because heather got hold of a time line of the deal. So at this meeting, you had the lender, the origination lender Acadia, you had some advisors you had executives from Kushner, companies and You also had Nicole Kushner Meyer the sister of Jared Kushner. Nicole Kushner. Meyer. Looks like a brother Tall and thin brown hair brown eyes seem dimpled cheeks. When jared Kushner left for the White House. She took on a more substantial role in the. Family. Real Estate Company. Nicole Kushner Meyer followed up after that meeting sending multiple emails to Freddie Mac. Officials. We all were turning and after that, the deal moves pretty quickly. The deal the Kushner companies negotiated was massive. This is not a two hundred, million dollar deal. This was not three hundred million dollar deals. This was walking in asking for eight hundred, million dollars, which is key no matter who it is. That's a big deal for Freddie and then it's having a Kushner sitting there at the table talking about it Freddie Mac says, no one disgust jared Kushner this meeting and that no political influence was brought to bear. Heather took the data. And she found that the deal was unusually favourable kushner companies and riskier for Freddie Mac and ultimately taxpayers when compared to similar loans Freddie issue didn't twenty nineteen. You know the question is if property values plummeted and Kushner companies ran into trouble which is not so hard to imagine right now given having to real estate because of the pandemic would tax payers end up being on the hook. One other thing you need to know about? Freddie, MAC after the last recession in two thousand eight. So many mortgages fail that Freddie Mac and its siblings sandy may nearly went under US tax payers had to bail out nearly two hundred, billion dollars. So after that Freddie Mac Federal Monitor to make sure it didn't take on excessive risk. So you have the situation of family company, which is I mean, it's not that big a company, but it gets this big loan by Freddie Mac standards at the same time jared Kushner in the White House. So that's why bells are going off exactly exactly. No matter who it is. That's a big deal for Freddie. And then it's having a Kushner. Sitting there at the table talking about it. Hello and welcome to trump inc a podcast from WNYC and PROPUBLICA that digs deep into the business of the trump family I'm Andrea Bernstein. Today on the show Lou Kushner companies unusually favourable deal. And what it tells us about the conflicts baked in to the trump White House were neither the president nor his family members have divested from their family businesses. When Jared Kushner was appointed senior adviser to then president elect Donald trump nearly twenty seventeen. He was CEO of Kushner companies furiously negotiating to relieve the debt burden on six six six. Fifth Avenue. Russian Chinese and Saudi leaders and businessmen sought them out understanding early that he would emerge as a powerful figure in the trump White House. They were not wrong. In the nearly four years of trump's presidency, Kushner has outlasted the vast majority of trump's appointees. And enjoys unusual access to both the west wing or the president works and the East wing where the family gathers. From the beginning, the White House said Jared Kushner would recuse himself from particular matters that have a direct and predictable effect on his financial interests and will comply with financial disclosure requirements. When he did disclose his assets it became clear that jared Kushner, every year he worked in the White House was earning tens of millions of dollars. From. His family business. This arrangement has caused no end of tangles. Like when Jared Kushner negotiated generous deliver withdrawn with a Chinese insurance company for six. Fifth Avenue or when Nicole Kushner. Meyer invoked her brother's connections to the White House while pitching investors in Beijing. Or the time jared Kushner met at the White House with senior executives from banks who also gave Kushner companies large loans. Each time both jared Kushner and Kushner companies said the business and the White House are entirely separate. So. What's at stake is whether or not government power is being used for the good of the people in power and those closely related the Kushner family ethics, expert Kathleen, Clark, or whether government power is used in the ways that Congress intended or whether we have basically a fundamentally corrupt system, we'll hear more from her later in the episode. Jared Kushner's failure today vast also had an effect on the family business people with firsthand knowledge. told me. After a while banks became skittish about big Kushner deals. They don't want the scrutiny. What's called headline risk. By Twenty Eighteen The company was under pressure. The KUSHNER companies didn't respond request for comment for the story in the past Charles Kushner said the company remains a very strong real estate business adding the future of Kushner companies is indeed, very bright. So, let's go now to that big loan deal. Jared sister Nicole Kushner Meyer negotiated. In fact. Let's go to be apartments. This is Alex mcgillis reporter with Propublica and I am today. driving to check out another housing complex owned by a family of jared. Kushner and I'm puzzled back in two thousand, Seventeen Alec mcgillis had a story Co published in. The New York Times magazine called Jared Kushner's other Real Estate Empire in Baltimore. At the time people knew about Manhattan Real Estate. But not so much about Kushner is more low rent properties in Maryland most of his apartments are in very humble. Working Class modest areas out on the edge of town along highways, strip malls that kind of area but salic reported those apartments in the excerpts of Baltimore were populated by tenants of modest means who are subject to a relentless series of legal actions by their landlord. Even when they were withholding rent because of mold or sewage problems or other serious concerns. A Kushner spokesperson told Alec at the time. The company had a fiduciary obligation to its ownership partners to collect as much revenue as it could. Recently Alec. Drove out to have a look at the multifamily units Kushner companies had newly purchased. The ones that were part of that big twenty nineteen acquisition right now, I'm going through it. One of Baltimore's loveliest. And North Baltimore. called. Mount Washington. who used to be sort of a weekend retreat for wealthy people downtown this complex called Bonnie Ridge didn't look like the ones had seen before Mercedes Suv Alec went to check out a second complex. That was part of that big Kushner companies deal along I. Ninety Five Near Ninety Five meets the Baltimore Beltway. This is where the Ikea. Panara CHICK-FIL-A. A jewelry store a more sort of typical. Middle, class. Suburban ex urban part of town definitely a little bit more upscale than the areas I'm used to visiting over here for Kushner. Ville To conflicts right off the highway here we are the apartments at cameras court beautiful apartment homes. That's what the sign says. And once again, a Westminster community and that is the mark of Kushner Ville. So I know I'm in the right place. Wow, these are definitely nicer than what I'm used to. In May of Twenty Nineteen Bloomberg News reported Kushner companies gets eight hundred million dollars in federally backed. Apartment. Loan. EYEBROWS SHOT UP Republicans, Heather Vogel, and shortly after Bloomberg broke that story Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Tom Carper sent a letter asking questions and raising concerns that Kushner companies had been given some sort of special treatment in getting this deal with Freddy the letter acknowledged there was no specific indication of any wrongdoing by Freddie in this matter. But it said the size of the deal couple with jared Kushner's refusal to divest quote raises significant questions about the circumstances. Under which Freddie approved and Kushner companies received the Sloan by wanted to kind of really look under the hood and really sort of get into those details a bit and see what I could find out. And what did you find out as you as you? Well. Know I talked to a lot of people in the industry I talked to a lot of people who are close to Freddie and people who know things about the Kushner's business and it seems that allows people had sort of the same questions I did and didn't have concrete information on the answers. Those answers were hard to come by it. I remember Freddie Mac's function and is to keep money flowing to the housing market by buying loans from lenders, packaging them up and selling them to investors and guaranteeing much of the loans in case of default. But especially for its biggest borrowers. Freddie Mac customizes each of its loan deals. So. It can be hard to compare one to another. So heather waited until all the data was in for two thousand nineteen. Now, we can go back and take a look at The other loans that Freddie was making in two thousand nineteen with similar market conditions and compare the deal that Kushner God with what other borrowers got at the same time, and that's what proved to be most revealing to me. Much of the information had their needed was on Freddie, MAC's website but in different. Places through different portals, and so we tried to pull a lot of that into a single database that allowed us to make Patterson's among other loans that Freddie was making at the same time and also to look over time for these properties there was I the type of loan. One of the things out right away was that this was a ten year interest only loan. The data showed very few other borrowers obtain this type of loan. were, you don't have to pay any principal just interest until the loan is due only about six percent of the loans that Freddy did in two thousand nineteen were interest only for ten years or longer. So this is not unheard of and it certainly a type of deal that they do, but it was unusual. Ninety four percent of the loans Freddie Mac funded in two thousand nineteen were not interest only publicly available data shows. There's a reason for that interest only loans or better for borrowers Kushner companies because they keep monthly payments low, but they moved the risk from the borrower to the lender. Because there's a chance, the borrower won't be able to make the big lump sum principal payments at the end of the loan. Other term stood out to Kushner companies was allowed to take on an unusual amount of debt relative to the value of the properties. The KUSHNER companies deal took it. Almost, you know right up to the ceiling that Freddie allowed, which is about seventy percent. You can borrow about seventy percent of the value of the property Kushner companies loans ever jd sixty, nine percent. So one, they had interest only loans. To they rose right up for the loan to value limit and three. The data that underwriters that is the bean counters at Freddie Mac comb through the numbers used to calculate risk. Didn't match reality in underwriters going to look at the historical prophets, the occupancy, other factors about the property and they're going to say, Hey, okay. We can expect the revenue to be a certain amount can expect the expenses to be a certain amount, and then we can expect you know the prophets to be a certain amount and that is experts. Tell me a number that is supposed to be a accurate be not aspirational, but with the Kushner loan. It was not accurate. And it was aspirational. Even. Before cove nineteen hurt real estate. The apartments were making less than Freddie Mac using Kushner's numbers expected and what we found was if you look at the overall loan package that he underwriters expectations fell short by twelve percent. Is that a big number? Yes. When all of this means is better deal for Kushner companies more risk for Freddie, MAC and investors. And this risk isn't theoretical Freddie and sister agency fanny faced a soon nominee of defaults and single family home loans and two thousand and eight almost two hundred billion dollars worth. And many of those defaults came from risky interest only housing loans. And this loan It went to one of the most powerful officials and the country's family business. After his sister met with loan officials. Hannah's happen. Dope, to be clear, there's no smoking gun email. There's no phone call that we know from the White, house? No there's nothing that we have seen that says, give this loan to Kushner companies know. Freddie Mac said in a statement. It does not consider the political affiliations of borrowers or their family members. It called Republicans analysis random, arbitrary, and incomplete and asserted the kushner loans fit squarely within our publicly available credit and underwriting standards. The terms and performance of every one of these loans is transparent and available on our website and all alone occurred and have been consistently paid. We wondered even if there were no overt influence, could politics still have been in play we asked the former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency Names Mel Watt former director of Federal Housing Finance Agency. This is the Federal Agency which is supposed to keep an eye on Freddie Mac. Making sure it doesn't take on too much risk what a former North Carolina member of Congress was appointed to his post by President Barack Obama and stayed on for the first two years of trump's presidency. His relatively small agency was responsible for oversight of the much larger, Freddie? Mac. And I'm just wondering from what you know about how federal agencies work whether you think there could have been somebody who interpreted it that they had to. Give a good package because they understood the family relationships even if nothing was said or. It if this decision being made by one individual. would be a lot more likely but these decisions don't get made by one individual. Let's anime off. Freddie. Mac Can. But is it possible? Yes I mean I. Don't know what else I can add to this discussion I mean I. Can I have sort of philosophically. But if you're trying to get me to say it is likely it is I have to tell you that I think it is unlikely. I'm not actually trying to get you to say anything. But I just WANNA be clear about one say in my judgment, it is unlikely that that would have been a decisive factor in in making an individual decision tobacco. Watt left in two, thousand, eighteen before the Kushner deal was done. There's a new director now his name is mark collaborator formerly. Vice. President Mike. Pence's chief economist Camario who was confirmed in April Twenty nineteen has called for an end to the conservative ship. The close financial control that his agency has exerted over Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae since the two thousand, eight crisis the transition from the Obama appointee to the trump appointee was happening at the same time as this deal was coming together and it was really I would imagine a great time of uncertainty for people at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who were seeing a new person come in who had a really his own take on things. Neither the White House nor Kushner companies responded to multiple requests for comment. After the break the ethical implications of the KUSHNER FREDDIE MAC deal. Hi there. It's Ilya Marritz Co host of Trump Inc.. 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I'm ANA sale host of the PODCAST death sex and money in our new series game changer we're talking to three athletes about how the DEMOC has upended their lives and livelihoods listen wherever you get your podcasts. Or back. Jared, Kushner says when he joined his father in law's administration, he took the necessary steps to meet ethics rules. Here he is in two thousand, nineteen in a TV interview with. Jonathan Swan by disclosed all my holdings to the. Office of Government Ethics and what I did with that as they told me what to divest, what to keep, what rules to follow but the rules don't encompass all the various situations that jared Kushner's not divesting have led to. Mike when we're talking about now where his family company got big loans after his sister called on Freddie Mac. Officials. One of the aspects of Freddie, MACs more dealing on that makes it a particularly risky from an ethical point of view is that. It's hard to tell whether they are giving special treatment I called up one of the foremost expert on trump business ethics. My Name's Kathleen Clark. I'm a law professor at Washington University. Well, Freddie MAC has credit parameters. Rogle learned it also customizes deals they're not off the rack, their boutique, and so if that's the mode of dealing vats a high risk, there's a risk of corruption there's a risk of improper influences. Obviously I care. And agree that one should care but I would like to hear from you why In, general should care. About this kind of transaction what what is at stake? Yeah. So what's at stake is whether or not Government power is being, used. For the good of. You know the people in power. And those closely related the Kushner family or whether government power is used in the ways the. Congress intended whether it's used for the public good in general. So Carrot Kushner's. Family Company. got a very generous loan package from Freddie Mac. They're real estate company. He's not involved in the day to day managements in any way that we know of. Is it a problem I mean are they entitled to continue to do business? Well, he's a senior adviser. Neither I nor others involved in government ethics advocacy sink set the Kushner companies should be. expropriated. That's that's not what we're talking about we're talking about is whether the government is run in a way that we can have confidence. That people are treated fairly equally under the law and not given unfairly favourable treatment because of their connection to the president. And I think that one of the things that this situation the Kushner situation has exposed. Is a weakness in our government financial disclosure laws. Or let me put more generally not just financial disclosure, but the conflict of interest laws. So, one of the things I've been wondering is that in those cases where jared Kushner did divest, he just turn over the assets to his close family. If in fact, what he's done is just parked the asset with his mother or another close family member, and then he can be expected to go and retrieve that after government service. That basically makes a sham of the entire conflict of interest regime say that jared Kushner never benefits that he wasn't parking an asset that he never was getting an income stream from this particular set of properties. Does the fact that close relatives benefit. Create a problem, create a conflict. Yes, maybe not a conflict in the technical sense of the financial conflict of interest statute this criminal statute but it matters from a different point of view. It matters in terms of whether or not officials were treating this situation impartially or whether someone Kushner companies got different treatment because of their connection. Now Freddie Mac says jared Kushner was not discussed at the meeting I mean we don't have. A memo that says, the White House says they want us to give the Kushner companies this. On especially favorable terms. that the White House wants Freddie Mac to back this favourable loan favorable and large loan for the Kushner companies. Well, it is. It's underlying properties are performing less well than average. Is there still a problem? I I would just say that points to the fact that a imprison meeting is risky and it's difficult to verify whether. Something untoward with set or not. We simply have to trust them that nothing inappropriate was sad. Okay. So let's say that Nicole didn't just say I just finished lunch with my brother and he would love for you to do this. And let's assume that none of that happened and they just walk in as Kushner companies and yet somebody in the. Hierarchy of Freddie Mac thinks. We should do this her name's Kushner. Still, a problem. Yet. That absolutely is a problem. If you're the Kushner company in, you're trying to do the right thing. If say you were the Kushner companies ethics adviser, what would you advise them to make sure that? This all is good. Looks Good. I'd leave it to the professionals I. Keep family members away from it. Even if there's not direct White House. Intervention. Are they responding sort of in the shadow of the possibility of White House intervention or in the hopes of. Keeping on the good side of the White House. When Donald Trump was elected president he didn't divest from his company. He had a no conflict situation. He told the American people. His cabinet and family members Ivanka trump jared Kushner. Followed his lead. And as we've been covering over the past years at trump inc.. These arrangements have led to a ball ethical concerns. Nearly impossible to untangle. Our mechanisms of accountability of legal accountability. Have failed us. and so the trump administration. and the initially the Republican control of Congress than Republican control of the Senate. has demonstrated the weakness in our. Accountability Systems because president trump has gotten away with it. Kathleen Clark is a law professor at Washington University in Saint Louis. This episode was reported by Heather Vogel and produced by Catherine Sullivan Nick, Varsha Ver was the editor jared Paul does our sound design and original scoring has brown wrote our theme and additional music. Huge thanks, Republicans, ALEC mcgillis for driving out to the Kushner companies complexes. Matt is the Executive Producer of trump INC emily. Boutin is the vice president of original programming for WNYC Steve. Engelberg is the editor in chief of PROPUBLICA. Andrea. Bernstein thanks for listening. 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NPR News: 05-08-2020 6AM ET
"Live from NPR news. I'm Korva Coleman authorities and Georgia have arrested and charged two white men with murder in the shooting death of an unarmed black man last February from Georgia public broadcasting. Emily Jones reports Gregory in Travis McMichael. A father and son told police in February that they confronted twenty five year old Ahmad arbitrary because they suspected him of break ins in the neighborhood armory was fatally shot in the ensuing struggle but they were not arrested at the time. That and a graphic video of the shooting leaked this week. Fueled anger and protests. Both McMichael's have now been arrested. Armories anthea Brooks says. The community is celebrating the arrests but the case is far from over. This is only the beginning We still got to wait for the conviction. This is just the start Georgia governor. Brian Kemp tweeted applauding. The arrests and said Justice will be served for NPR news. I'm Emily Johnson Savannah. The federal government has spent more than two hundred billion dollars on direct payments to Americans for Corona virus relief but some recipients include Americans who died as long as two years ago. Npr's Tim Mack has more as a result of NPR's reporting on Wednesday on this issue a partisan group of lawmakers is demanding answers from the Treasury Secretary and irs. Commissioner the letter is led by Democratic Senator Tom Carper and Congresswoman Cheri Bustos as well as Republican senator. John Kennedy and Congressman Greg. Gianforte THEY WANNA know how many deceased Americans received corona virus relief payments and what steps the federal government is taking to recover the money Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has said that the payments were an error and should be voluntarily returned before a week issued no guidance as to how following days of inquiries and the publication of NPR's report on Wednesday the IRS released guidance on how to return improper payments to the deceased. That guidance is available at irs.gov. Tim Mack. Npr News Washington California will slowly begin reopening. Some parts of its economy today in Los Angeles Golf courses and public trails will be open Los Angeles Eric. Garcetti says states and local governments around the country have been waiting for the trump administration to release detailed guidance on how they should reopen the federal government has withheld publishing the CDC's specific guidelines for our nation. That's unfortunate but there are specific guidelines on reopening the county and L. A. That are ready right now. Garcetti notes the pandemic is not over. He says Angelenos must wear face coverings when they go out and cannot meet in groups the Labor Department releases its latest jobless reports for April later. This morning analysts expect the unemployment rate skyrocketed to as much as sixteen percent reflecting millions of lost jobs due to the pandemic this would be the highest joblessness percentage rate recorded since the Great Depression. You're listening to NPR news. The Justice Department has dropped its criminal case against president. Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn. He pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in a case brought by former special counsel Robert Muller who investigated Russian election interference the Justice Department now says the FBI should never have interviewed. Flynn Attorney General. William Bar has frequently attacked probe officials in Bangladesh have discovered two boats carrying nearly three hundred Muslim or hangers. Michael Sullivan says the refugees were trying to reach Malaysia. Authorities say the refugees will be quarantined in a new camp built for the Royal Hanger on the flood and cyclone prone island bus on char in the Bay of Bengal. An estimated one million Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh live in camps on the mainland after a bloody crackdown by Myanmar's military in two thousand seventeen. A navy officer says the refugees on the boat have been given food water and first aid officials say the quarantine is necessary to prevent the corona virus from reaching the camps on the mainland human rights advocates are urging the refugees be sent to the mainland. If they're found virus-free instead of remaining on the island one calls the row handgun dress for NPR news. I'm Michael Sullivan in Chiang Rai Thailand Chinese and US. Trade negotiators talked by phone today. About an interim trade agreement China has had trouble fulfilling purchase agreements with the US because of the pandemic the purchasing is in exchange for the US dropping some tariffs. I'm KORVA COLEMAN NPR news.
September 17, 2019
"Tuesday morning I'm Anna Palmer. Welcome to your politico playbook audio briefing stay tuned after the show for a message from the vet voice how nation and I'm Jay Sherman in this political pickle has come up conversations with several Democrats over the last few days of House Democrats Impeach Donald Trump and he loses they feared they can get blamed for a political hit job if they don't teach him and he wins they fear being blamed by the base for not doing enough best case scenario. DEM's or left hoping they don't impeach him and trump loses on his own gabby or was down on in Rio Rancho New Mexico for US covering trump's speech last night after saying that the state is doing better than any other in the US. He asked the crowd. How do I lose his. New Mexico explained that one. We're here for a number of reasons but we're here because we really think we're going to turn the State New York Times also pointed out that trump singled angled out. Steve Cortes a longtime supporter and CNN commentator who was president trump said he happens to be Hispanic but I've never quite figured it out because because he looks more like a wasp than I do trump also said nobody loves hispanics more than him the AP's reporting Iran's supreme leader saying there will be no talks doc at any level with the US. The Washington Post is a piece up with a look at trump's dual instincts on Iran big threats and also a willingness to cut a deal the irony Iran has now now adopted the United States hardline position that they will not meet with President Trump without preconditions reminder. Israel is voting today. Israel is seven hours ahead of the US. We should know more more by the early afternoon early. Reports say there's been high turnout at the ballot box. There's a new report out by Senators Rob Portman and Tom carper off embargo this morning. Learning that says the last three government shutdowns cost taxpayers nearly four billion dollars and if on spotted item Todd Ricketts the cubs co owner and current. RNC RNC Finance chairman was at Cafe Milano last night celebrating his fiftieth birthday. The Big Day is actually September twenty third attending the fete his brother's Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts and cubs chairman. Tom Ricketts Attorney and RNC National Committee member Richard Porter Former Speaker Paul Ryan Kellyanne Conway Senators Tehrik Scott Cory Gardner and even Dick Durbin Illinois Democrat. WHO's also a cubs fan. The post has a piece of examining how trump likes to use possessive language like my generals roles and Mike Kevin and how that could be a sign of control or affection. The Post also has a piece up about how the farm bailout money that trump requested is going to be included in the next government funding funding bill which would be a big win for the president the Boston Globe as a piece about I oughta Presley looking to submit a resolution calling for an impeachment inquiry into Brad Kavanagh Politico is reporting joining the Defense Department will no longer move forward with three border barrier projects because of the cost and president trump's former campaign manager. Corey Lewandowski is testifying signed before the House Judiciary Committee according to the on the Twenty Twenty Front Sally Goldenberg and Alex Thompson report that Elizabeth Warren at a New York City rally cast her campaign as a successor to other women lead movements trump's Tuesday. He'll leave New Mexico to eleven fifty eastern time in route to mountain view California Holden drive have to Palo Alto and participate in a roundtable with supporters at three twenty followed by a joint fundraising committee lunch trump then heads to Los Angeles where he'll participate in a round-table with supporters at ten. Oh five on the east coast in Beverly Hills followed by joint fundraising dinner subscribe to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook as veterans. We took an oath to protect our country but now America's public lands are under threat our best hope for protecting them as the land and Water Conservation Fund. This program is critical to preserving sites like the nine eleven memorial Gettysburg Burke battlefield and more than forty two thousand projects across America for too long. This program has been underfunded and Congress has allowed our communities and public lands to suffer join Vet Voice Foundation in calling on Congress to fully and permanently fund L. W._C. F. We did our duty now. It's Congress's turn visit vet voice on Dacian Dot Org to learn more.
The US Got Hacked... Again
"This podcast is brought to you by indeed dot com. Hey everyone. I'm david chalian. The cnn political director. This is the cnn political briefing. Here's what you need to know in politics for monday may tenth. Twenty twenty one. Us infrastructure once again falls prey to hackers operating out of russia. We'll discuss that. Plus biden's big week in bipartisanship outreach and finally caitlyn jenner running for governor of california weighs in on the big lie last friday colonial pipeline company that claims to carry forty five percent of fuel consumed in the east coast of the united states was the latest victim in a recent spate of ransomware attacks targeting. Us infrastructure the fbi has firmed that the group responsible for this attack is an ongoing criminal. Group operating largely out of russia called dark side. Colonial pipeline says it hopes to have service restored by the end of this week. The attack of course comes amid rising concerns over. The cyber security vulnerabilities in america's critical infrastructure following recent incidents the russian solar wind attacks that affected nine us agencies and dozens of private organizations. The chinese linked hack of the microsoft exchange server vulnerabilities that exposed tens of thousands of systems. Worldwide dark side has claimed that this pipeline attack was economic not political. But this just highlights. How the biden white house has face new unvarying threats and how vulnerable the. Us can be to this kind of attack at the white house today. President biden the hack department of energy is working directly with colonial get the pipelines back online and operating at full capacity as quickly and safely as possible. We need to invest to safeguard our critical infrastructure. That's one of the many things my american jobs plan is designed to do and here are some of the steps. The white house taking as a response it has stood up an emergency working group to contend with potential energy supply issues that this act may have caused and the white house is also finalizing a cybersecurity order a draft that would seek to better respond and defend against major cyber attacks and well. It doesn't seem like this was a state-sponsored attack. President biden has sanctioned the russian government for its involvement in previous hacking an election interference efforts all of this is a really big red flashing sign for the biden administration about the vulnerabilities of the infrastructure system in this country and the peril of external threats from both criminals and state actors like russia. Welcome to warfare in the first century. Now here's what else matters. Today it is a big week for president. Biden's push for bipartisanship agenda. The house and the senate are back in town today. And therefore the push to get biden's infrastructure plan through the congress is back at full throttle and so our negotiations over the price tag senate minority leader mitch. Mcconnell recently indicated. he's open to raising the amount of money. He initially seemed willing to spend infrastructure as long as it is for the traditional definition of infrastructure projects roads bridges tunnels etc. But mcconnell said. He may be willing to go up to an eight hundred billion dollar bill. Of course the battle is going to be over how to pay for it. White house chief of staff ron plane spoke with axios over the weekend about president. Biden's efforts at bipartisanship outreach. What president biden said is that he wants to try to find common ground with republicans on these economic measures. That have been bipartisan. In the past most of these republicans have stood in front of a rotary club or a qantas club and giving a speech. But how we need to fix our bridges roads or highways are infrastructure. It's basic basic things that we're putting forward biden is set to have a slew of meetings on this major agenda item for his administration. He for the first time since becoming president will host the four. Bipartisan bicameral congressional leaders. Pelosi mccarthy schumer and mcconnell all coming to the white house on wednesday. The president is also slated on thursday the day after that leadership meeting to sit down with six republican senators led by shelley moore capito of west. Virginia who is sort of taking the lead for republicans on negotiating with her democratic counterpart and the administration to see if there is actual space. For a bipartisan deal and on the democratic side biden we learned is going to sit down for a one on one meeting with senator joe manchin of west virginia the person who holds the entire biden agenda in his hands basically given the fifty fifty divided senate and his former fellow senator in colleague. Tom carper from delaware. The biden team is trying to do two things at the same time here. They are trying to demonstrate and actually work in good faith and an attempt to get republicans on board with some kind of deal but at the same time laying the groundwork with their fellow democrats that if indeed they have to go it alone that they have all fifty democrats in the senate ready to do that. That's a hard thing to do. Simultaneously those two things but that's the approach. The biden administration is currently making and finally today. Make sure you tune in tonight at eight pm eastern for my friend. Dana bash's interview with california gubernatorial candidate. Caitlyn jenner. she's gonna make quite a bit of news in this interview. I assure you is just one of the many candidates throwing her hat into the ring for governor newsome's job should the recall effort that he is facing be successful and it's quite clear in the interview that generous trying to navigate her republican party politics but running for statewide office in a state where democrats outnumber republicans by two to one. So she's trying to present herself as sort of a fiscally conservative republican but social progressive. And you can see that tension on display when danna asks jenner about the twenty twenty election whether or not. Joe biden is the legitimately elected president whether or not that election was stolen. Jenner may not go full trump in her answer in terms of supporting the big lie but she certainly is trying to dance a very fine line. Do you believe president biden was duly elected. Here's our president. I respect that. I realize there's a lot of frustration over that election. You know what. I'm frustrated over what what happened back. Do you believe that the election was stolen No i believe in the system. But i believe in the what we need to do in the future. We are a democratic republic. We need to have integrity at our election system. Here's the reality folks. Anyone who doesn't say declarative louis. And clearly that. Joe biden was elected fair and square. He's the legitimately elected president. And there's absolutely no evidence that the twenty twenty election was stolen. They're giving the wrong answer if they're not giving that answer no matter what party. They're from and i imagine gavin newsom team is going to jump all over the way jenner answered this question. That's it for today's political briefing. Thanks so much for listening and please take a moment and be sure to follow us wherever you get your podcast. 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November 14, 2019
"Good Thursday morning. I'm Jay Sherman and welcome to your political playbook audio briefings day to day after the show for a message from the Stop the coalition and I mean a Palmer Day one is over and it's hard to encapsulate six hours of hearings in a single headline. We spent the night in the capital chatting up lawmakers AIDS reporters. And here's how insiders or thinking in yesterday and the next eight days of hearings. The six hour hearing presented unique challenges for both parties. Republicans didn't get their first crack at the witnesses is bill Taylor and George Kent. It's about one PM. After the opening statements and forty five minutes from house until chairman. Adam Schiff who also had a solid day members members of both parties. Along with Dem Council. Dan Goldman Democrats. Had we've together what. They believed to be airtight tail. They did so expertly. Interspersed burst with Republicans trying to blow gaping holes in everything they were saying. TV which is usually a boon for Republicans in the trump era seemed to cut against him. This time Kenton Taylor took pains aims to emphasize that they had no allegiance for or against Donald Trump and they were believable according to most every Democrat and Republican we spoke to one of the keys for Democrats was that both with them said linking aid to seemingly political investigations was wrong and unusual. There are few as top level lawmakers and aides both parties are looking at the Republicans performance they dove headfirst down rabbit holes regaling the crowd of millions of viewers with right wing twitter conspiracy theories but they also did a decent job of muddying. The waters confusing the testimony. In Fighting Democrat to withdraw we heard the draw language from many Republicans. Last night it's important to note. Republicans did not change the narrative arc of what Democrats are alleging. They are only saying Democrats. Were relying on witnesses who did not have the firsthand knowledge to make allegations on surprising thing. We heard a few times from people of both parties that the American public simply believes politics and government is dirty at. It's not surprised that the president held up military aid to force an investigation into a political rival to Republican highlights. People are talking about Jim Jordan using the testimony to weave together a narrative about how Taylor was relying on hearsay. Your their star witness Jordan said to tailor alert a bite deplete over and over again on cable network. TV and Devon Nunez criticized ship for his dramatic exaggerated impression of trump on the phone. Call Something Democrats cringe at. Because because it was a rare unforced error by schiff. Undoubtedly the star for Democrats was attorney. Daniel Goldman who had a mastery of material that seems completely foreign to most elected officials Sharp questioning also came from representative. Eric Swallowed California. Who got both witnesses to say they were not never trumpers and representative Joaquin Castro? who tried tried to get tailored to stipulate that attempt to extort country is a crime in and of itself even if it's not successful as NBC's Katy Tur pointed out? One of the Democratic highlights undoubtedly came from Vermont Democratic Representative Peter Walsh Jordan asking for the whistleblower to testify the guy who start at all. He said when Walsh said he welcomed the guy who started it all coming forward. That trump could testify anytime how you could tell. Republicans are still flailing a bit the the GOP keeps talking about how. No one has first-hand information although the administration is blocking almost everyone who has firsthand information the Sunlen hearing which is set for next Wednesday now carries as additional weight. The political donor was the subject of so much of the questioning on Wednesday. Fridays deposition by David Holmes will also be critical homes the counselor for Political Affairs Affairs of the US embassy in Kiev was the Taylor. Aide who overheard the trump sunlen cell phone call. He's a first hand witness to wit. The Washington Post is reporting. The former officials are saying silence called. The trump from kief was a stunning breach of security to New York. Times's Peter Baker made the point that after six hours of testimony. It's not clear any minds were changed or the hearing had penetrated the general public or the people watched riveted like Watergate. The Times is mark. Leibovich also framed the day as a collision of trump's Washington and the old Washington Post also a forward-looking story about how Republican the Senate are considering elongating. The impeachment trial in the Senate to scramble the Twenty Twenty Twenty Democratic primaries. Divall Patrick is set to enter the twenty twenty presidential contest on CBS. This morning and briefly noted senator. Tom Carper at a fundraiser. For Joe Biden last night in Alexandria eggs Andrea said this the third time charm. And I think this just might be it. The Wall Street Journal's reporting the U. S. China trade talks his snag over farm. Purchases and Alex is instead scoops scoops the RNC is plowing. Money into the Louisiana Governor's race ahead of the Saturday. Run Off on the twenty thousand front. Eugene gangs is reporting the Yang campaign spending seven even figures on to new ads. Going up in Iowa New Hampshire on Friday. It's the first time the campaign has gone. Up in New Hampshire comes as campaign spent another seven figures and I. Yeah well on an APP by last week and Zach Monteiro reports that WHO in Castro won't qualify for the November debate. And here's what's on tap for trump's Thursday. The president participate in a working visit with the NATO Secretary General Two PM in the Oval Office. He will depart the White House at four ten in route to Louisiana at six forty five. PM Central Time trump arrive at centurylink center in Bossier City Louisiana. He will hold a campaign rally at seven PM afterwards. He will travel back Washington returning to the White House. Twelve thirty subscribe to playbook politico dot com slash playbook. The health insurance tax will take a toll on hardworking Americans by increasing healthcare costs by five hundred dollars a year per family with more than half the total cost falling on those making less than fifty thousand dollars. Americans I want Congress to take action but raising taxes on their healthcare isn't what they have in mind. It's time for Congress to stop the health insurance tax more at stop the hit dot com.
The Pandemic Cut Down Car Traffic. Why Not Air Pollution?
"Hey real quick. If you're new to the show make sure to subscribe or follow us on your podcast. App Of choice that way you get fresh episodes. As soon as they're out I think every weekday the smell of fresh baked science in the morning. You love it. You're listening to shortwave. Who FROM NPR? Any SAFAI here with NPR climate correspondent Lawrence summer he learn eighty and science reporter Rebecca Hersher. Hey Mattie Do you remember March? Yeah Becky of course I do. It was last month Do you remember what was going on outside in March? Yeah I mean I remember looking at it the outside I looked at it. And when did you see while you were looking at it? I feel like this is weird trap but Birds FRESH AIR NOT A lot of traffic bingo from a shockingly smog. Free New Delhi in India. Fresh air to unusually clear waters the canals of Venice. The world is suddenly learning. What can happen. If humans stop polluting the Environment Stanford in fact if you listen to the news back in the beginning of the pandemic and the US with more of staying inside off the roads you probably heard. It was the freshest cleanest air ever cities around the globe are reporting less air pollution. We're also seeing wild animals roam and very unexpected places right. Nature is healing Lauren. As they say and keep saying yeah and it is true. That traffic plummeted. Mid-march dropped around forty percent. So you get rid of car traffic you get clean air. Is that Ed? Because like I don't know if we need a whole episode for that you too Yeah actually that's the hoping I'm GonNa go. Okay Becky's kidding we're signs reporters here. We look for Data Right Tobacco with the headline say about the world so we call the per colleagues in the Investigations Unit at NPR with their data journalists and we asked them was the air really that much cleaner can we measure that and they said sure. Give us a few weeks. They analyzed half a million air pollution measurements from across the country during the pandemic and the analyze the five years before that in a few weeks. They're very good And that way they compared the average amount of pollution from this spring to the average amount of air pollution from the previous five years. And just to be clear here. I know you already know this rain. But we're not talking about carbon dioxide which is a greenhouse gas that locks in heat makes the planet warmer you know climate change what we're talking about are pollutants that makes smog and soot which make the air dirtier right okay so you measure those pollutants. What's The answer Becky? Did the air get a lot cleaner because of the pandemic no it only got a little bit cleaner. Our analysis found that during the pandemic a pollutant gold ozone only dropped by fifteen percent or less in most parts of the country in a lot of places. It barely dropped at all so today in the show Y. The pandemic error isn't as clean as a lot of the headlines. Suggested and a lot of people hoped and how scientists are making the most of this time to study where air pollution comes from and how to tackle. You're listening to shortwave the daily science podcast from NPR. So there was definitely one picture but I remember seeing a freeway in Los Angeles arguably the traffic capital of the United States and there were no cars. It was like empty for your way clear blue sky and now you came here on this podcast and you're taking that all away from me. Well actually the air was cleaner in Los Angeles in March. It was the longest stretch of cleaner that had been recorded in decades. And you know that's a big deal for la because there is not great. Sometimes there's high levels of ozone Which is a pollutant that sworn by all the that comes out of tail pipes and smokestacks and power plants? What it does is it. It mixes in the air ground level. You add some sunlight and you've got ozone and it's not good stuff it exacerbates respiratory and cardiovascular illness so it makes sense that everybody would be pretty psyched about cleaner air. Yeah and it seemed like that made sense right with all the lockdown and people staying at home. I mean they started asking the air regulators about that like Philip fine of the South Coast Air Quality Management district through a lot of pressure on us to come up with the answer that everyone wanted to hear which the is that the covid nineteen measures have cleaned the air and southern California. But here's the thing it was also really Ramey in. La During the same time and rain helps clear out the air so as the weather is dried out. Recently air quality has gotten worse again. I mean went back to the unhealthy. Category actually yeah. Okay so I guess when you think about. There was this forty percent reduction in traffic and only a fifteen or so decrease in ozone in lots of parts of the country. It's not nothing right like not much. Not A ain't nothin' yeah. It certainly helped some but you know believe it or not sound kind of strange cars are not. La's biggest source of pollution comes to the pollutants that make ozone And that's actually true in a lot of places in the US Which is fine told me that means what's happening. Now with reducing car traffic just enough read a lot of newspaper articles over the past couple weeks decided if only we can have people telecommute one day a week across the entire base in our air quality problems will be solved and unfortunately it's not that simple. That's because the big source in La is trucks A reason is because there's just a lot of shipping that comes through the ports of L. A. and Long Beach and they handle about thirty percent of the country's shipping container traffic and that gets moved around on trucks after it comes in so traffic. It didn't decrease as much as the car. Traffic did so that pollution was still being omitted. Okay so trucks are the problem in La. Becky would about places yet so other places have other pollution sources like Pittsburgh. We looked at Pittsburgh and ozone only felt by nine percent about between mid-march and the end of April and when I asked atmospheric chemists about this they were like the reason is coal. Oh the Col- cold. It's burned to make electricity primarily but also call. It's used to make steel right. The history of Pittsburgh is all about steel scar. Have some very active industrial sources near the city in this kind of at the University of Pittsburgh? Emily Elliott says Cole is really dirty work in closer proximity to the places that are generating power coal fired power plants in the Ohio River valley that contribute quite a bit to pollution. Okay Sup- Pittsburgh has coal. La Trucks anything else. I should know about. Yeah Houston has this thing with factories. Oh Right Rebecca Hersher. We've talked about that on the show before indeed. We have and for those who might not remember Houston has one of the largest concentrations of petrochemical facilities in the country so to see how ozone levels have changed their versus other places. That was an interesting question for us. And what we found. Is that those facilities. They mostly kept operating during the pandemic actually in fact a lot of them they make the raw materials for masks and gloves the PCP hospitals need so desperately right now. So I'm guessing that ozone levels decrease a lot in Houston exactly ozone decrease less in Houston than did in La okay so it sounds like industrial pollution versus pollution from our like. Private cars is a big deal. Are Scientists looking into that? Becky like how much industry plays into this. Yeah they are. And it's possible that the overall air chemistry has also changed when we remove cars from the picture which is kind of an intriguing idea like air pollution is kind of a soup of different chemicals and bits and that soup is different now. And there's something even more confusing that happens with that soup that Air Chemistry and this is really strange to stay with me. This is really strange. So say with me as actually sure. We've tagline so go ahead you're at home. Will we mention that stuff coming out of tail? Pipes and other sources is what makes ozone rates that stuff is nitrogen oxide so nitrogen. Oxides helped form ozone. But here's where it gets weird under some conditions you know. In the short term nitrogen oxides can break down ozone molecules instead of forming them so some pollutants can break down other pollutants is. What you're telling me yes and I called up one environmental engineer. That's looking into this Salonika Ivy. At the University of California Riverside she says with fewer cars nitrogen. Oxides are down. But that means they aren't doing the job of suppressing ozone so zone goes up and to get over that weird effect. You actually have to cut pollution a lot more. What it shows is that the level at which we decreased was not enough to reduce ozone. And so we're just GONNA have to be more aggressive with our sustainable transportation solutions okay. So that's kind of weird. I mean it means we can be doing the right things for air quality like driving less. But it's not gonNA necessarily have the effect you'd want to see at least not at this level. Yes and then on top of all of that. The federal government added another wrinkle to this story. We will now hear from our witness the honorable Andrew Wheeler Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. So this is congressional testimony from last week. The head of the EPA risk testifying and the big issue that came up was whether the EPA is doing enough to control air pollution during the pandemic. Why was that such a big issue like isn't it always the EPA's job to enforce air pollution regulations? Yeah but in late March when COVID NINETEEN CASES. Were ramping up. The EPA put out this document and it was addressed to companies that are regulated by the EPA. Hey so we understand that. The pandemic might make it hard to for example check. How much pollution is coming out of your smoke. Stacks OR REPAIR LEAKS IN STORAGE TANKS OR FILE. Bot's monthly reports that you usually have to show the you're only releasing the pollution. You said you were going to. And this is how the EPA Administrator described this guidance document in his testimony we regulate over one point one million facilities across the country and many of those facilities have been shut down and they do not have the staff on hand to submit their reports to us so basically the EPA was saying companies if they can't comply with pollution regulations because of the pandemic. That's okay the EPA. Probably won't punish them. Because these are extraordinary circumstances this global pandemic exactly But one thing that makes a lot of people nervous about this policy is you know we're in the middle of a respiratory disease outbreak right. Some people are like wait a second now the EPA's and doing everything. It can to make sure breathing clear right now. Especially in places with a lot of industry like Delaware Senator Tom Carper. He pushed the EPA administrator on this and a pretty blunt way we stop writing rules that make things actually worse not better. All of our rules make things better. And Mr Mr DP doesn't require companies to tell them if not complying with pollution regulations during the pandemic. So it's hard to know if there's extra air pollution and where it's happening. Oh Wow so they. They don't even have to say like. Hey we're not going to be able to comply with this. Yeah they're not required to. Wow okay all right. So I'm going to be honest. Your bumming me out. Is there anything we can do to fix the pollution soup and also I will not forgive you for calling it? Soup well science. Let's think of science as the silver lining here Always do okay. This is like a strange natural experiments. That is kind of exciting for scientists like when have we ever removed forty percent of cars from the road just to see what happens now? Scientists who study air pollution and where it comes from the poll new set of data that they never would have had before sure but I also think like this like what time to do. Experiments mentality feels a little weird to me like so many people have lost their jobs. One hundred thousand people have died in the United States. How can we feel good about anything that comes from that? Yeah I totally feel the same way and I actually asked a lot of the scientists. I talked to that same question and of them. Were like yeah. It's sad and hard but data or data and we're excited to have this information that we would never have gotten otherwise that's Kinda like boilerplate response but one scientist. She's actually a statistician who studies air-quality. Her is Jenner crawl. She said something that I hadn't thought about before. Which is that some of the biggest leaps forward in our understanding of air. Pollution historically have come during public health catastrophes. Like if we think back to Dinara smog or the London fog Events Yeah may maybe it is a silver lining or maybe it's. It's just an an opportunity to help to be smarter. I guess in the future to learn what we can so that when we think about how changing the pollution extra in the future might impact health. We'll be that much smarter. All right you too. Thank you for all these data. The greatest gift you can give a person. Thanks thanks. Manny this episode was produced by Brent Bachman edited by Viet Lay and fact checked by Emily von in reminder before we go to make sure and subscribe or followed this podcast to make sure you get new episodes as soon as they're available which you want. I'm Maddie Safai. Thanks for listening to NPR shortwave. There's no getting around it. The coronavirus pandemic has ended everything and daily decisions made by the White House and Congress will radically impact human and economic toll to keep up with the latest join us on the NPR politics. Podcast will cut through the noise and let you know what decisions are being made and how they affect you.
Mr. Bidens Opus
"Joe Biden talked about grief and healing. As he accepted the Democratic nomination for president, there are almost two dozen wildfires burning across California right now, forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes, and if you've got frustrated with video calls during this pandemic, you're not alone has one senator demonstrated today the date. August Twenty First Two thousand twenty. K. Everyone. I'm Haze Brown and I'm Casey Rackham welcome to Buzzfeed's news o'clock and very happy Friday. Hayes. A very happy Friday the happiest I'll Friday's I am so excited to sleep and just enjoy life on the weekend. Before we dive in quickly I saw something in teen vogue that I want to chat about real quick. It's that apparently despite being you know distant learning for a lot of schools around the country Paul, we still enforcing dress codes. Wild. On even in the building that's absolutely ridiculous foot I'd need to go talk to these administrators decided this because I am a grown adult who has worn the same three things on vacation every day for the past five months and they are all tied I. I cannot like I can support the idea of like, okay. Kids get out of pajamas like really like get yourself ready to face the day of learning. But like enforce strict dress codes, I can't support that like let the kids be they're stressed as it is if they have like a favored like comfy sweatshirt that might not be too like your standards to. Yeah I totally get the point of people being like listen getting out of your pajamas makes you feel like separate from like a work life balance kind of thing, but it's like A. Pandemic. Please they are trying to do the best. They can let them drift out. They want if you WANNA wear a blanket over your shoulders during class that'll make you feel better. Go forward. Say. All right time for today's top stories. Here's what you need to know. The Democratic National Convention wrapped late Thursday, and after four nights of remote speeches and prerecord videos, it seems to have gone way better than expected. We've mostly talked about the big name speakers this week but last night, a teenager had one of the most powerful speeches at the convention. Hi, my name is Burton Harrington. Nine thirteen years old. And without Joe Biden I won't be talking to you today. About a few months ago I met him in New Hampshire. He told me that we were members of the same club. We we. Star. Brandon went on his gripe how Biden had shown him the book of poems. He'd read from the practice how to speak without a stutter and how he marked his speeches make them easier to say aloud neither say brandon was a big hit online among viewers. The idea that Biden is a person who cares what a major theme throughout the. Convention. Right up to his acceptance speech alongside his plan for Tackling Corona Virus Biden spoke deeply about the grief the country's feeling. Law. I understand. I understand heart is to have any hope right now. I'm this summer. Night. Let me take a moment to speak to those you who have lost the most. I have some idea how it feels to lose. Someone you love. Deep. Black hole that opens up in the middle of your chest and you feel like you're being sucked into it. I mean cruel. And unfair. Life can be sometimes. But I've learned two things. Your loved one may have left this earth. But they'll never leave your heart. Always. Be With you. You always hear the. Second. I found the best way through pain and loss and grief is to find purpose. As God's children, each of us have a purpose of in our lives. We have a great purpose as a nation. To open the doors of opportunity to all Americans to save our democracy. To, be a light to the world once again, it all Biden gave what most observers including on Fox News called one of if not the best beaches of his career. And meanwhile, this year's wildfire season California is already off to a chaotic start with several uncontained fires already burning around the state. As of this morning, California's cal fire website twenty, one active fires with just the three largest buyers alone having burned roughly half a million acres ready for context. That's the size of thirty five Manhattan's the number and intensive wildfires is. A lot for this time of year sparked by a late season heatwave and lightning strikes that said dry out vegetation ablaze. One of those fires burning. Santa Cruz County has already prompted around fifty thousand people to evacuate their homes and last night. The University of California Santa Cruz issued a mandatory evacuation order for its staff and students as fires approach the campus. The crisis is also overlapping with the corona virus crisis. The state usually depends on prisoners paid about three dollars a day to serve as firefighters during the peak of wildfire season but the Sacramento Bee reported this week that the state has quote placed twelve of the state's forty-three inmate fire camps on lockdown due to a massive outbreak at a northern California prison in Lassen county that serves the training. Center for fire. Crews. Yeah I'd say there's a much better way to go about that than paying inmates three dollars you know and the better way to do that is to don't do that. I completely agree like these are all volunteers apparently kind of I mean there's been a lot of reporting about this over the years, which is wild in another itself. There there's. They shouldn't be made up of volunteers. Volunteers are welcome, but it should be. An actual thing that the government is paying for no, I completely agree with you like the idea of getting cheap labor to do this it just clashes up against the idea of like I can see like in a much better more gala, -Tarian world where this could be like an actual like work training situation rehabilitating people getting them back out so that they have skills to take a one theory of serve their sentence but the fact that it is basically just being used as cheap labor just really it's weird in the system. Yeah. And then going back to the DNC speeches last night just truly last night was such a show of empathy which really has been lacking these last four years from the president. Honestly, and the government is just the word empathy and seeing that on display was just it took me aback low, but you know haven't seen it in a while. Yeah. For sure like even just listening to that clip from Biden again just now you could hear the emotion in his voice and you felt really That pain as well? I mean someone on twitter said something along the lines up there just so many people in this country right now where if you went up to them, look them dead in the eye and said, this is so hard. I'm so sorry that this is happening they would just absolutely fucking lose it and I feel like that's something that Biden really captured during his speech one hundred. Percent All right Casey what have you got today. I. I'm sad to say that group. Paul's drag race contested in fan favourite Chichi devait passed away yesterday at the young age of thirty four vein also known as Avion Davenport made her debut on season eight of drag race where she was acquitted fan favorite she wound up finishing in fourth place before competing again in season three of the shows all-stars format. became popular not just for her flips and kicks but for her honesty about her struggle to speak out for gay rights in her hometown. Shreveport Louisiana, the exact cause of death still isn't public but shortly, after season three of all stars she announced that she'd been diagnosed with Scleroderma, a disease that attacks the connective tissue between Oregon's. Drag race creed or Rupaul said in a statement quote, I am heartbroken to learn of the passing of Chichi debate. I am so grateful we got to experience her kind and beautiful soul. Next out mega stallion got on instagram live last night and directly accused repertory lanes of shooting her last month after weeks of wild theories being thrown around Meghan said that the shooting happened after an argument in the lanes SUV with only her her friend lanes and his drive are present when she got out of the car near her house to end the argument she said Lane started shooting at her from the backseat details about the shooting which required. Meghan. To get bullet fragments removed from both feet were originally sparse with TMZ first reporting that she had glass in her feet she accused lanes and his people of spreading that. She also explained why she didn't initially tell the police to the scene she had been shot. The police come I'm scared audit shit going on with the police the police shooed my focus for anything. The police was literally killing black people for no motherfucking reason soon as the police tell us I'll motherfucking car the police is really aggressive. You think I'm about to tell the police we niggers US black people got a gun in the car. You want me to tell law that we got a gun shoot all of us up against. A helicopter. According to TMZ and the L. A. Times La's district attorney's offices. Now, considering charging lands with assault after originally only booking him for possession of a firearm and singers, Colonia? Joe Joe have both said they're dropping him from plant collaborations man that video from Megan's intense it is. It's true. Why would she want to say that she has a firearm in that car I completely understand that and what a horrible position for her to be in she had just been shot right and the people who in theory are supposed to be there to take care of the person who has shot you she's worried about his. Life and her life, and the fact that they might start shooting. If they realized that there's a firearm in the car that we already saw the pictures and videos of her limping down the street leaving bloody footprints behind and the fact that they she had to go through. That is just so much I mean she it's just not right right and the fact that she also had to show off her wounds on instagram earlier this week to prove i. know this actually happened please look at this what a mess I hope she finds some form of justice in all of this it's just a lot. Okay. Yes. I. Hope She does get justice. And moving onto some rare good news on this Friday. The Great British bake off is coming back this year. After delaying production when the pandemic hit, the show tweeted out earlier, this week that they'd wrapped filming on the most recent season and to do so they filmed for six weeks nonstop two days on two days off like other reality shows bake off had to find ways to work around pandemic in an interview with the British magazine broadcast. The show's producers said, they basically had to create their own quarantine bubble to make the show work. They did that by renting out entire hotel for the hundred twenty people involved in making the show that included twenty hotel staff eighty staff from what productions and twenty children's chaperones and dog walkers and unlike past. Seasons this season contestants couldn't go home during the week to practice their upcoming books. Instead Love Productions Executive Kieran Smith said they built twelve kitchens were bakers could do their preparations away from the eyes of their fellow contestants. The premier date for the new season hasn't been announced yet, but should air INS channel for this fall. This is some much needed news. I am so excited now I am I'm excited to see what it looks like to was actually nervous at first when I read this story that was said today's onto days off because I'm like, Oh, I got no they have to go home and be with their families in practice there. I was like they better. Get ample time to be practicing. This seems like, yes especially since they have nothing else to do like normally they live their normal lives while they're also shooting this show and a practice at night if they have real giant. upsides and downsides to this because it's like, ok before it was so many weeks where their lives were just like a mess and they were so happy I mean they all look. So frazzled at home interviews with like Yeah Yeah I got into my job but also this so at least now they can just concentrate on visit fabulous show and experience right but I am sad for us if it's if it's airing on Britain's channel four this fall that means Netflix's again for a bit unless they're double airing. Probably. Not but we'll talk after this about ways you can get around that. Yes. Late. All right when we come back, we're talking about the most relatable thing to happen in the Senate history stay right there. Oh hither news o'clock producer Allen here have you ever wondered what millions of Americans and three former US presidents have in common ends up they all agree that bollandbranch shows are the softest and most comfortable pure organic cotton sheets on Earth Bollandbranch cotton is rain Fed pesticide-free and carries the highest organic certification. 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Their. move onto a senator Lyford. L.. Kevin I think Senator Carper is there I think he's going to be able to do it all right now. Senator Carper. Can You annute I'm on I'm on. There we go. We don't want to be on. TV again. carpers. Spokesperson later put out a statement saying quote like most Americans in two, thousand, twenty or carpet got frustrated with technical difficulties this morning. But that pales in comparison to his frustration with the postmaster general who's actively undermining the US policy during the crisis. Honestly. I must ask who among us, who can't relate to that. I am laughing so hard at the person who was like. Yeah I think Senator, occurs there. I mean, that was senator like James Langford if Oklahoma who normally I disagree with on like most everything but. That was amazing. That was. Forms. Just, taking the time and moved on but I think that she might be. Yeah I mean I have you know when my screen should have been horizontal vertical I haven't unneeded myself quickly, you know like I do all these things. So I understood all these people who haven't had to use technology like this. It makes sense right? In it's not just US I mean it goes as far. So Richard Grenell who was the US ambassador to Germany and also Berry shortly director of national television's he had gotten a little bit of a Senate about the fact that a CNN reporter tweeted out about that little meltdown from carper and thought it was funny. But that Gates Republican of Florida said on twitter I have never disagreed with rick more that video is holding me together today. and. That is the kind of Unity I. Think we need in this country right now I, love that also bringing that to earlier. We were talking about the zoo. Outfits that you have to wear the dress codes. I watch Tiktok last night where it was this girl who is supposedly in class and she's like my teacher just said that you can't be in bed you can't be wearing joe keeps ranting about it and then all the sudden you here an man's voice go excuse me that is not what I said you gotTa. Silent because she wasn't on Mu. And you just like she says, this shock face enter teaching basically saying the world actually are and it is the best. Fail and dress. Code fail upper. Bad that warms my soul that makes. Me Happy all right everyone listening. You have a story about your biggest zoom fail over the last few months that you wanNA share owed up the voice memo APP on your phone. Tell us your story. Then send that file news o'clock at. Buzzfeed. Dot Com that's news o'clock all one word or you can just on twitter we're at news o'clock on there too. That's it. 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Weekly Roundup: August 21st
"This is Brian. From Chattanooga Tennessee. Two of my three kids or taking a nap, which is giving me an opportunity to clean my car. The time of this recording is one twenty, seven pm on Friday August twenty first things may have changed by the time you hear this, but one thing won't have changed. The next time. I say no snacks in the car I'm going to mean it. Oh every time you try to have a no snacks in the car policy it lasts like a very short period of time and then it's like, yes, I'll give you the fruit snacks just be quiet goldfish just tastes better in the car. Okay. That's just a fact it's true I. Feel Him. So deeply on the naps thing, it's the only time you can get anything done. Yes. Hey there it's the NPR politics podcast. Tamra. Keith I covered the White House I'm Kelsey Snell I cover congress and I'm miles parks I cover voting here is a name that you've been hearing a lot and you were about to hear a whole lot more Lewis did joy he is the postmaster general and he was called before a Senate panel today he has announced that he will suspend the controversial changes at the US Postal Service. That had been in place until after the November election. Miles, what were those changes and and where do things stand now? So honestly, after this hearing, it's even more unclear what the changes specifically imposed by the joy were. Going into this, we had thought that involved cutting overtime. We'd heard from postal workers across the country postal unions, media reports that involved cutting overtime involved the removal of these high speed mail processing machines and then there was also basically a change in policy on win late mail would be delivered whether it'd be delivered the same day or the following day. But on Tuesday to Joyce released a statement that said, he was walking that back because of all of this concern is kind of firestorm of criticism from both sides of the Aisle Democrats and Republicans forced. Him To basically say no, we'RE NOT GONNA put into any of these transformational changes until after the November election just so people have confidence in their election mail being delivered. But on Friday he basically said that some of those changes that we thought we were attributing to the joy, the overtime and the removal of those high speed sorters that that wasn't part of his plan. The only thing that he actually implemented he says is the change in when that late mail will be delivered. But like we've seen pictures of mail sorting machines that have been disassembled or moved. Like there's There are things that have actually happened that postal workers are actually complaining about it. This is confusing right. So there are two things happening here. One is trying to figure out who is to blame for what people are seeing in these photos, and as miles has pointed out anecdotal evidence of of changes that are happening across the country and then trying to parse out what the actual effects. Of those changes are so the what we were seeing in this hearing and part of why it was probably a little confusing to watch democrats per in particular were attempting to Parse both of those things at the same time. So what actually happened in how much of it is dry d joyce fault and how much is it going to be reversed now you know right the yeah because he. Doesn't sound like those mail sorting machines are rapidly being put back in the warehouse in the mail sorting warehouses like it. It seems like this is sort of just frozen in. In time now, right we saw video on social media circulating of some of them actually were already taken apart and being put into dumpsters outside of some mail, sorting plants, and so and part of that is routine. You Know Joyce said that in today's hearing debt every year these machines basically we go through and look at the data and we change some things but there has been some reporting already about how there has been more of these machines taken out of the rotation. So to speak than there were in previous years. Though some level of is fairly routine and joy said that these are not going to be put back into the system. He says that they were pulled out of the system because they were unnecessary said that they're making room for package sorting because people are just ordering more packages right now they're at home they're ordering stuff on Amazon is do but the thing that Democrats have pointed out to me is that you know ballots are not packages, ballots are males they go through the letter storting machines, and so there are real concerns. that. If you don't have letter sorting machines in post offices, that could be a real problem. What we need to say here is the reason that we are talking about this. The reason this is getting far more attention now although there's concerns about people's medications and other things and letters or whatever. The reason that this is such a big issue right now is because there is an election coming on November third and more people will vote by mail in that election than ever before because of the coronavirus pandemic and there are real questions. About how quickly ballots can be delivered? was there any clarity on that in this hearing I think to joy made a really big point especially in his opening remarks to say election mail is my biggest priority over the next few months which I think may go a fairly long way in easing some of those concerns especially from election officials, I've talked to one of the more concrete things he said was that there had been some fears about whether we're going to be changes around a how election mail was going to be priced. Local state election officials are really crunched on money right now, and so in previous years, election male had been treated as first class mail but we're getting this bulk rate previously there was fear that was going to go away under the joy. He said today that no election mail was going to be treated the same as in previous years and that it was going to be treated as first class or even better than first class is what he said. Though as much as this might be, you know making local election officials feel better it is a full blown political issue right now it's not going to go away because Detroit said, he wasn't responsible for the changes if anything this is getting Democrats even more wound up until I would expect that this becomes an issue that sticks around are going to continue to be concerned about whether or not. There are getting counted and it also kind of plays into a narrative that Democrats were already trying to build about what happens within the trump administration, how decisions get made, and you know some of this because the president himself said that he thought that curtailing mail in voting was good for him. One More Congress question for you, Kelsey Postal relief funding for the Post Office for the Postal Service. Is Part of what is being discussed as. An element of this long sought, and now Gosh don't even know where it stands corona virus relief legislation. So where does it stand in as this likely to be a hang up in that or or not? Really. So this gets a little complicated because the house is GonNa vote tomorrow on Saturday pretty rare Saturday vote on funding for the Postal Service said standalone money for the postal service that'll probably pass a fairly partisan along partisan lines. We don't really know how Republicans. Are. GonNa Handle it in the Senate though I don't expect. It has very good prospects in part because Republicans say that they are fine with more money for the postal service, but it has to be part of a corona virus relief bill while the coronavirus relief bill isn't really moving anywhere when I talked to Democrats earlier this week they said that Oh, a Republican proposal that's kind of brewing over in the Senate actually is moving them further away from any agreement so. It's hard to see how money that there seems to be some agreement on can even get past miles. We are going to say goodbye to you briefly but not for too long because you're coming back for can't let go so good for now. All right. Thanks. Bye. 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We go on a journey with Ted speakers to seek a deeper understanding of the world and to figure out as to think and create listen now, and we are back and we are joined by Justice correspondent Ryan Lucas Hey Ryan. So Steve. Bannon. who was at the helm of President Trump's twenty sixteen campaign. And also worked in the White House for a time was arrested yesterday on a yacht on fraud charges by the Postal Service Ryan. What do we need to know about this? Well, this is a case that ties into. A crowd funding campaign called we build the wall and basically what what federal prosecutors in Manhattan allege is that Bannon and three other defendants who have been charged. In this case basically told perspective donors promised them that all of the money that they donated to this campaign which raised in total twenty, five million dollars there. All of this money would be put towards building a wall along the southern border and they made this this promise repeatedly when soliciting donations and ultimately with prosecutors say is that that wasn't true. They say that Bannon and the other defendants were siphoning off hundreds of thousands of dollars for their own personal benefit to line their own pockets essentially the the indictment says. That Bannon through a a nonprofit that that he controlled basically had around a million dollars funneled to him some of which he passed onto other defendants, some of which he he kept himself. One of the defendant that did receive a lot of that money that that came through abandoned was a co-defendant by the name of Brian Cole Fudge who prosecutors say allegedly received. Around three hundred fifty thousand dollars despite promising. Again, promising donors that all of this money would go to the wall. They say that he got about three, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars, which he used to buy a boat to buy a golf cart to buy jewelry to do home repairs. So ultimately, this is kind of. Garden Variety fraud is what it comes down to just happens to be garden variety fraud that is connected to something that is this like. Big Part of the identity of the trump message though wall tim what has the president said about this well president trump said that as he frequently has done I mean I guess we can say frequently because it has happened several times for him that someone who was a close associate has been indicted or guilty or otherwise gotten in trouble to something the president basically did the I hardly knew the guy I mean obviously ban played a key role in his campaign but but trump said, you know I haven't spoken to him in a long time he kind of left the White House on bad terms. and. A president trump has about a month ago. He tweeted basically saying like. He didn't like this project and that this wasn't his wall this was their wall and it was substandard he a accused. Of being. Essentially a showboating project. Is what he said and also with the White House said After this, this news broke about the charges against Bennett. But as you said to him, he'd really tried to distance himself as quickly as possible from both Bannon and this project. Now, it's worth pointing out of course that in addition to Bannon being on this, we build the wall project. There's also Chris Kobe former secretary of state of Kansas who trump allegedly once considered. For a role in the administration I mean, allegedly he interviewed for a job in the administration fair. Yeah. So, this is this is not some sort of project that has no connection whatsoever at least a rhetorically and through personalities to folks. Within the trump I mean, this is not the first time that people who worked on the trump campaign in twenty sixteen have been indicted. Right? This is this is the list is getting law banning joins yes Kelsey, a very long list of. of former trump insiders. WHO Face federal charges you have former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn you have president trump's former personal attorney and fixer. Michael Cohen you have president trump's former adviser. Roger Stone you have man there's a long list to the point that I'm Tam help me out here. Manafort Flynn Gates Stone, Papa Manafort of Manafort when we're campaign chairman Rick Gates his deputy. It is a long list of former trump insiders who have face federal charges. Let us pause however and say that although many of them have either all of them have either been found guilty or pled guilty. In the case of Bannon. You are innocent until proven guilty, and at this point he he pled not guilty right what what did he have to say? That's right. He there was a brief hearing. After his arrest. A brief hearing in federal court in New York on Thursday in which Bannon did plead not guilty to the charges against him, which are conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering, and as he exited the courthouse in in in Manhattan, he said, and I quote here this entire fiasco is to stop people who want to build the wall. There was other big news this week out of the Senate Select Committee on intelligence they released a bipartisan support on Russian interference in the last presidential election and the trump campaign's connection to that interference. What did they conclude? Well, this is a massive report it. It comes from a three and a half year investigation into Russia's interference in the two thousand, sixteen election. As you said, it is bipartisan you had Republican and Democratic Staff working on this it's a thousand pages long thereabouts they reviewed round million documents interviewed hundreds of witnesses, and what they conclude from all of that work is that Russia deed conduct a pretty aggressive influence campaign in two thousand sixteen to influence the election to help Donald Trump win and that people. On. Team trump were happy to accept. Russia's help in that This report focused on the counter intelligence threat to US national security for from from from Russia's interference, and the committee concluded that the trump campaign posed a massive, a massive counter-intelligence threat and what is important about all of this is that this conclusion is one that was reached by Democrats and Republicans not just Republicans Ryan like like the people on this committee are not a bunch of never trump republicans, right? Tom Cotton's on this committee Richard Burns on this committee John Cornyn on this committee and these are serious senior. Republicans who care about national security and these are all conclusions that this committee endorsed. This would seem to say that there was something going on. There was a there there there there were extensive contacts between trump associates and Russia and sources of mine who I have talked to over the the past four years have also that there is ample reason to investigate and and this this report really Kinda hits that home that there was ample reason to have concern about contacts between the trump campaign and Russia, and this report does not concluded. It doesn't draw a conclusion on the question of whether there was a collusion or coordination between the trump campaign and and Russians. What it does is lay out the facts and let the reader come to his or her own conclusions. But. Republicans in an annex to the report. Declare that you know we found that there was no collusion whereas Democrats and their annex to the report say. What we conclude from all of this is that. Trump and the trump campaign posed one of the gravest threats to national security to American, national security in US modern history politics question real quick Kelsey before we go to the break, do you think this matters? I mean like you know we've been talking about Russia for years. Now there have been other reports does this change anything in the politics or you know is this sort of an afterthought now with corona virus dominating all? I mean this. This would have been a fairly blockbuster report in a normal news environment but. It it. Kind of became a quieter background narrative this week with all of the other things going on and in a lot of ways we. It falls into the category of things where people who want to believe it will believe it and people who don't want to believe. It will not believe it and the president's interpretation continuing to talk about the witch hunt and being spied on. You know many of his supporters will here just that part and while it might be getting lost a little bit in the conversation. This goes to a fundamental question people have about the security and reliability of our elections. It goes back to the same kinds of questions people are raising with the postal service. There are real concerns out there about whether or not the. In November will be decided fairly insecurity. All right. Well, Ryan we are going to say goodbye to you. So goodbye goodbye, and we're GONNA take a quick break when we get back, it's time for can't let it go support for this podcast and the following message come from the Annie E. Casey Foundation, developing solutions to support strong families and communities to help ensure a brighter future for America's children. More information is available at ADC DOT Org. Hey? I'm Sam Sanders host of it's been a minute. Show, we catch up on all the things in news and culture this space force I totally missed this. What is the Space Force stop it stays Know what I've been in my apartment for four months. Oh, man crushing it. Thank you. Feeling good news without the despair. Listen now to the it's been a minute podcast from NPR. And we're and Halligan miles. It is time to end the week with can't let it go that part of the show where we talk about the things, we cannot stop thinking about politics or otherwise Kelsey what can't you let go of? I'm going otherwise as usual. I can't let go of pandas this week for a couple of reasons. ooh. Now in the same way, some of our other politics podcast family feels about paying as I am not of the Anti Panda Group but the panda here in. DC One of the pants here in DC might be pregnant. So we might be having baby pandas in DC and I'm very excited about it pandemonium. You've learned a lot about pandas this week I learned that they can appear to be pregnant but then. They can reabsorb the baby. I don't understand how this works. Not, sure. This is actually pregnant. Yeah. So they think the panda is pregnant but apparently pandas get pregnant pretty frequently than than don't actually have the babies that they have like weird quirks of their reproductive system among many weird quirks of Pandanus and so yeah, we may have a penalty in DC. We may not have a panda baby in DC. All Twenty I fear we won't have a of baby. We'll get very excited when we need it. We need it so badly get false panda baby hope I also learned this week that all pandas are basically just giant toddlers. There's this video going around the Internet of these pandas of zookeeper in China attempting to clean a panda cage and the panels are just like crawling into her basket and taking away her broom and falling all over themselves. Oh I'm familiar with that. I, know what that looks like. It looks like having a toddler are miles. Why can't you like? Oh, so I can't let go of is something that happened earlier today that I've watched this video I at least fifteen times. And is it makes me giggle every single time This was during today's hearing which we talked about earlier about much more serious topics. But when Senator? Tom Carper got called on for this virtual hearing there was like this moment of silence where Ron Johnson is like Senator Carper, senator? Carper. There's nothing and then you kind of hear a little bit of rustling and then the camera pans to him. And he just drops three F bombs. And it was like the it's like the most amazing thing because then he clearly has this recognition and staffers there too and they both have this recognition of like did that just happen and they look in the camera like the like six year olds look at themselves in the camera and they're just like doing just like look like always that thing on and I feel like. Somehow. All of the senators don't really react they're just like. He's he seems to be there okay and they just move along with the hearing but I just watched it on loop over and over and over again I I love the part where Senator Johnson is like well, we don't want to end up on TV. Yes you're just. Definitely did they also ended up in the official transcript type somebody tweeted it just a moment ago that the official transcript of the hearing has all three bomb. Right out. Tam Do not let go today. Well, it's related sort of. Our colleague WanNa Summers drew my attention to this. You know balloons are a classic part of conventions at the after that. After the candidates big speech there the balloon drops from the ceiling and then. I mean they they actually didn't do a balloon drop yesterday they did fireworks instead but. If. You need some balloon drop joy go back to two thousand and four when. Inexplicably CNN. Carried, the producers voice ordering the balloon speed dry I remember Reading Confetti. Balloons. Hurry up with then there's like increasing. As. These hundred thousand balloons are just not following as he wanted. And then and then there's the FBI Could tell like you could tell it part of the plan with clear like he had been planning for. Obviously these things are like planned weeks in advance right and he's like he knows that during this moment, it's so important for all those millions of TV viewers to see balloons right after a nomination and it's like you can like hear the culmination of everything. He's like hoped for this balloon moment just not happening and. I feel like anyone who's I've worked on the the back end of the NPR shows in my previous life and it is like the most of setting like you could feel the sweat drenching off your face as something expected to happen didn't is just not happening and you're live and it's just like this is going to be how people are gonNA. Remember this event I appreciate his insistence on no confetti balloon full. I wanted to balloon. Well, his name is Don. Mischer found an L.. A.. Times article from two, thousand and four. Where he? Says that he feels terrible and deeply apologizes for offending anyone he had no idea that. His. His microphone to the producers to the production team you know the guys that would drop the balloons that microphone was being broadcast live on national television. All right, that is it for now we will be back on Sunday with a preview of the Republican National Convention and also every night next week to break down the key moments from each night until then be sure to check out all the ways to stay tuned with us by following the links in the description of this episode, our Executive Producer is surely Henry our editors, Armani maturity and Eric mcdaniel, our producers or Barton gird would and chloe wider. Thanks to Lexi ship piddle Elena more. Dana Farrington and Brandon Carter I'm Tamra Keefe I cover the White House I'm miles parks I cover boating and I'm Kelsey Snell I cover congress and thank you for listening to the NPR politics podcast