20 Episode results for "Tom Barringer"

Tom Berenger, 'American Dresser'

Popcorn with Peter Travers

18:44 min | 2 years ago

Tom Berenger, 'American Dresser'

"Hi, everybody. I'm Peter Travers in this popcorn where we tell you what's happening at the movies, and there's a movie now called American dresser. It is not the story of Tom Ford, you know, it is not somebody who is doing anything with fashion. It is about motorcycles and about a road trip taken by my guest today. Tom Barringer greatest thank rate to see could be here. So here in this movie, I think it's it's kind of wonderful to see you and keep David back together after put. I know laying Vietnam vets. It was kind of strange at very nice. I, my dad shoeless reunion. Yeah, and coming full circle and we're all army vets from Vietnam, but the only difference is it's kind of like a roller reverse. It's like he, he's, he's like my company sergeant like a Master Sergeant and. Whereas I was a platoon sergeant news, probably, you know, machine gunner. Yup, it's great. You're trying to figure out where you stand given the roles you play in movies. Walls played military flip-flop? Yeah, up American dress are a little bit for and what it is because people that don't know, there's a whole American dresser association for Davidson's American dressers actually it's not a trade name. It's a generic name for fairly big highway bike that would be loaded up like with the side panels and the tour box on the back where you can have a couple of changes of underwear and your, you know your your ring, ring gear. You know anything little extra you've got to carry, but it would be also more comfortable for a real long trip on your character is taking a long trip. Yeah, it's only out to the west coast amd back the two of them, and I don't want him to go because he's got some physical disabilities, and I think I just have to do this to, you know, for my my soul. And I'm told by my daughters to go just to get out of here, you're not doing any good, you know, because of his drinking, which is because his wife started that because his wife had cancer, then she died and he just can't get out of it. And we see those flashbacks in the movie with Gina Gershon playing, which is very touching. And yet he's going out there to meet a son. He didn't know have, which is very moving because it's not an aimless easy rider trip. No, there's a direction and it really isn't out to discover America or see on the east coast or something. Yeah, like them. It is different than that. What was the attraction to you? What made you say? I want to do this movie? I, I don't know. I just liked the characters like the story, like the dialogue. I thought there was some good humor in there. I thought it was funny. I mean it to me it had that same road humor that Bush casting the Sundance kid Nicholson and Randy Quaid in the last detail, you know, that kind of stuff going on of the strange of weird characters. They made. On the road, you know, Bruce darn. I love him in this. Yeah, all these people. They meet our kind of the rough. Yeah, yeah, exactly in. They're kind of endearing and funny and different. It's good to see back in this big screen that's here because you had been doing TV stuff that one day I was watching major crimes there. You were popping up as Mary McDonald's, rat bastard, ex husband. You know, this is this is how this happened was because Mary McDonald, they needed this character. They wanted to bring back. And ex husband of hers, and she's well what about Tom bear your? And they went, what's interesting, let's check, you know. And so I knew her and I knew to other people on the show and which was kind of a nice reunion. But then they had so much fun with the character. The writers just kept bringing me back. So it was kind of like an archive suppose. Yeah. And he was kind of funny. Its own bizarre way. Yeah. The business of being an actor is you create little mini families. Don't you. Oh yeah, to movie. And then sometimes the family breaks up and you get back together, but you still remember this feeling that you have. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. What where did it start for you? We're, we're, we're, you come from originally, we'll really from the south side of Chicago. And they ended up queens, moved green, which is. Did tough neighborhoods. Different. So it felt kind of comfortable and I couldn't afford to live in Manhattan how I couldn't afford a studio apartment in Manhattan. The time probably couldn't now but see new. You'd get rich being an actor. Well, I don't know. It's one of those things like you. You go all I've done it, so it's either make it or just digesting it. And I don't. I don't know. I guess it'd be like becoming a priest. I compare it to that somewhat vocation. Yeah. Yeah. So where did you did you train? Did you go to? Yeah. Well, I I did supplies college, and then I did a couple of plays in Kansas City. Then then I got to New York, and then I did plays in New York off Broadway and off Broadway and regional theater. And then I got casted in looking for Mr.. Good bar out of New York. I got casted for that. And you were the one that did that off? Yeming. Two Dane Keaton in that one. Yeah, I've had some. I'm sure you had many people come up to you and say, oh, creep. You do that. Yeah, but you got recognized that even though he only comes in, I know, yeah. I know this, I think is one scene earlier a little bit set up. You go wise that halfway watching that, you know, and then there's the payoff at the end, but. That was also Richie gears first movie. Was that the one that sort of started everything for you where people were interested in see. Because I think people when they look at you, we go through this whole period of you. I remember you in the big chill specially that was early eighties, right? Yup. We shot it in eighty two followed to into January they, but I remember your character being this TV star of all of them. He's into one. He's, he's in this show that he basically hates even though TV's now everything. He gets verse when they bring it up. It's like, you know income out here to listen to that, but they're remembering themselves very young when they had political stance where something was happening that you did you feel any by brations from that about your own life? Well, I would be it's a little weird because I, I actually wanted to go to West Point. It'd be a career army officer and that didn't happen two guys in my class went and. I gave that up and said the home of that and ended up acting. And of course I played a few generals. And colonels and captains and teddy Roosevelt teddy Roosevelt don't. Yup. In relaunch street. All relief. General played an Admiral once and I was a cheap petty done, illicit cheap, petty guns. At home. Become a very conveniently. I really, truly I try to doesn't always work. It doesn't work. Yeah, doesn't work with wives and children. She says, go off white wall. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Just doesn't work much. Nobody listens to. But I remember when I guess platoon is eighty five eighty six, right? And this guy with the scars on his I remember the line he has in that you can take me through it because it's still such a great movie. But. You say, I am reality. One of those. Great. It was here right? You know, it's about, you know if the machine breaks down everything breaks, we all break chain of command to happen in, which is true of do, which is true. I mean, you know. He's not writing this stuff. He was taught it to enter those characters that I played Stanley coonskin streetcar named desire. They're like really blue collar, but the stuff that comes out of their mouth just prophetic, it's it's like, it's like our street blow injuring is really. Yeah, the way they talk. Yeah. And just go, whoa, where's he come up with that. We'll put tune said she rob. You get an Academy Award nomination. How does that change your career and your life in a major way did up? Yup. Well, for example, I had a then had four movies in a row. This went for entire year. And I, I, I can't go to work again. You know, I've got. I've got to take some time off. I'm getting whippy was concert on the road. And while I was doing one job, I was studying for the next doing some homework and sound work. Everything was overlapping then Bressan and it was just nonstop. Then I said, this has got the train has got to stop. I gotta get off, you know, for the walk because it's gotta come from you in some way every part that you play exactly even Barnes, even platoon, that guy is he's gone off the edge. Yes. Yeah, he really is. He's find that. Yeah. Like like somebody said, well, you know, I remember that interview. Nice. This was right after announcing wards. Remember during an interview while I was doing this other movie, and I said, well, yeah, but I go bars is this is on his fourth combat tour. I mean, he doesn't even know he wants to be a life. For each just keeps doing it, you know, and almost obsessed with it, but I go. What about Elias? This is third tour and the interviewer went of. Yeah, right. You know, they could have gone home, but they didn't. They didn't. Yeah. Well, accepted day become was playing him is is kind of Christ figure in. Yup. And you're the demon? Yeah. But over stone, what is that experience like? Well, obviously, Oliver had been there and these real characters, and even the battles he called up about five, five or six guys, he could find from that last battle in. He asked him where we, because then he had these notes on the old pad of paper, and it was like, who is in each hole like two guys, two guys? Where were you? Where were you because he wanted to get all the details of general tune action of what was probably maybe a battalion size unit or company size unit that get surrounded and overrun. It would be like the Alamo must be chaos and confusion, you know, and night as well. So he just want he just wanted to check with that. What what? What did you think you remember that that. And I, he so it's almost like very historically accurate, and the courage is were all real people. He said, but they weren't all in one platoon. They were in. He said, I was in two different platoons of the twenty fifth infantry division. One platoon of the first air cab. I got moved around a little and he said, I was there for fourteen months and he's the movie is like three months in a condensed, the three and the as movies, characters, which would be like ninety guys is put into one thirty man platoon. And he picked his favorites or the ones you wanna put in and use. So. Adapt. It's fixing history. Yeah. But when you do Gettysburg, there you go. Yeah. I mean it's yeah. Yeah, it you'll. Yeah, they're the accuracy is of major factor. Why? So effective as a movie. We like civil war guy. I was Gettysburg when I was about seven years old. I was actually on the battlefield and I remember told Steve lying play general Pickett I, you know, I was here when I was like seven. I'm forty two now which was exactly long streets age. I go. I go, they don't change much these battlefields national Mon. Go down to Jefferson's. If you haven't been or go see is home. It's the same. As I remember. You know, I, the national parks, keep that the same, which is great because you're living history, you're doing this often. They're shot. You know right on this spot where we shot the whole movie there. Seventeen day the department of interior. The national national parks department here and the people at the Rangers whatnot station allowed us seven days there. And so they're like seven different areas like doubles, Dan, which is very opposite and then pickett's charge. We had the big wide shots pickett's charge beginning where all the confederate troops come out of the treeline across that mile and a half of deaths towards the missionary ridge. And and there are monuments up missionary point of view of us stuff you go passes like you're going to see the monuments we can. We cover up, they go. You cannot put covers over the monuments these sacred. They said, we've never allowed reenactments here because ground. They said, however, if you got the camouflage netting, put that up, won't that work on long shots and indeed it did, you know, plus the smoke did. Yeah, the smoke of the anchor artillery or whatever, you know, kind of covers a little bit, but yeah, that distance respect was paid anyway, do that. And it was kinda neat being on the battlefield for seven days. When you got into closer scenes, whatnot, they went over the next valley. They recreated the Byrd road made it dirt had that old Dutch Pennsylvania Dutch fence there that you see them coming over and then up to the stonewall which created again, I think it's great to have that ability to to relive that and feel passionate about it when you do it, I'll tell you pick I, that was about one hundred degrees and and we're in those William. Performs, but I had goosebumps. I'm watching it and so did all those other guys. I, I mean, there is like this. My officers, right? As they set off Christine, remember to they had drums and fifes and all the plane, and then they when they fix bayonets, there were five thousand guys clicked on those nets and you heard it all the way down the tree line will. Confed are Julia stop. They stopped firing the turn around. They take their hats off. The Vitry goes through. I'm thinking that must be one of your favorite roles that you've played. I well, it is, but I just really always wanted to do a movie about civil war. It's virtually impossible. It was so big, you know, what do you do that book? I read it. It came out in seventy six and won the Pulitzer prize for historical novel. And I happen to mention an interview with the daily news like one of those twenty question things. Well, it was doing someone to watch over me out in queens. And next day I got a call from the writer director who owned the peace. It was six years six years later before we did. This is the first time you've been on this show, so you don't know we end in song. Oh, no, yes, you did. What was that movie? What was that? Rhapsody movie. Did where you were playing the cowboy? Oh, yeah. Of God. Are you gonna grown? No. Just need a piece of song. What's that song in your heart on Barringer. I can't remember those songs. It's just never saying, don't remember singing to your. Well, I saying to my son and his bride at their wedding come on. Now I need a little bit of that. What his use impetuous fire watches made ice and is are the world wags on. Rose will bloom. So the the maid what, but that. Yeah, that was the love song from Romeo Juliet, and I sang that to them because it is about marriage, beautiful element. You must have the secret of marriage them to bestow upon all of us. Okay. I just get a good one. Thank you.

Manhattan Tom Barringer Vietnam queens Peter Travers Gina Gershon Mary McDonald Tom Ford America teddy Roosevelt Davidson David Chicago pickett Academy Award Rangers Tom Stanley coonskin Bruce
The Nationals Matt Berninger launches Harrison Whitford

Launch Left

58:36 min | 1 year ago

The Nationals Matt Berninger launches Harrison Whitford

"<music> <music> hi. I'm rain phoenix summer phoenix. Hey cissy high says come to launch episode one episode one well lodge left podcast is many things but first and foremost it is a space for well known artist to launch emerging bands <hes> and it is also ultimately an intentional space to do that. I know there a lot of artists out there doing it now all over the world yesterday raw raw for them. We wanna make a space here. The artist can come in every week and share their pick of of best new bands and we also ultimately by intentional space. We just really want to highlight the idea that artists <hes> stacking kindness upon pawn. Kindness is a really cool thing to consider confetti real mylan real mazda real milestone here. It's been a long road food for you. Yeah i got you know wrangled in the last minute the grumpy sidekick doing a great job <hes> aw you're doing a great job and you voiced much yes it today. What's our what's our exciting. I episode sound like we got to sit down and have a conversation station with matt burning her from the national and he brought in his launched artist. Whoa harrison whitford heard whoa you just saying well because you're shocked at that your pronunciation so good of their names. I'm blown away yeah so welcome to episode one. Thank you for listening wing. Please subscribe and ray if you like it and <hes> we'll see on the other side of matt burning her and harrison whitford welcome to launch left. We'll do the preamble later today. We have on our show summer. Mahood rotator cuff. Let us get that out now and talk about it a little bit. We've all had injuries before so be gentle on her. She's she works construction. She's a form and on many any jobs. It's a <hes> it's a chronic situation. Though it's an old injury is their insurance. Though does your crew have insurance. I work for myself well. That was great. Okay so we're gonna talk about along. Who's on here with us and took off now. We can just we can jimmy javan. We'll edit whatever we want so we don't have any nervous about introducing ourselves and and or have rolls out. That's how we like it so so i i just like to make it as awkward as possible at the beginning and that kinda gets everyone. She's true yeah he does. It works for harry. <hes> i like to have things to speak awkward throughout these his most comfortable zone yeah word so warm water for him. We are actually on this podcast. We we have two guests. Matt beringer of the birger burning vendor ban hearts name was his who's that which is did you say it then i call them venture barnhart and he's like wow he's he's like. Do you know that people spell it that way. You're not the first to mess it up but it's banharn dan hi <hes> i never met him. Although he was <hes> he was in new york. A lot would see him around but never met him lovely human being yeah we had a good we went to his house for that puck as it was really silly house like beautiful chill. Yes very great. Great colored soft pinks. Yes yes yes yeah love you devendra. He played guitar through through part of it. It was really children bill guitar for us but we hitches qatari. So how did you say your name burning her. Oh my gosh so soft and so glad i started off just like total confidence matt burning her burning. That's good all right. We're on air with matt burning her by the way this isn't live so don't worry we might come out like in two thousand twenty one but anyway <hes> by the way <hes> okay okay so we're on air with matt burner and his launched artist <hes> an amazing emerging artists known as harrison wavered. I don't wanna mess it up. Quit quit for good because i didn't say it. I did make you sit up. Your opposite do not miss harris and his birthday today to set. What are we doing especially. When is your actual birthday because because because you have four hundred birthdays so my actual birthday was three days ago thank you but i've close friend and <hes> who's has a really like silly instagram presence and matt follows them and and my friend marshall and he always posts that it's my birthday like every two months later and so this was the first birthday i got genuine like texts from people paul saying. I don't know if it's really a birthday i don't. I don't believe it so. I don't know either after s. marshal. I don't have too many qualms about it. It's okay what's what's his handle at marshall for. What's your handle at garrison whitford. Oh that's cool. Mine's at green gloves seven seven seven at seven seven. Seven is the name of a song. It's an old national song record sites already agreeing gloves there were there were seven hundred seventy six legs before my so i had to add the number seven seven seven green gloves seven seven seven yeah. I do follow the national and one of my favorite things that you guys did on tour was the pre show defensive crowd i used to do that. I retired that for that tour that was for that tour it came up with that <hes> on the spot believe it or not it seems it seems like i would have had a team like you need launched appreciate a defensive offensive crash on my own in a killed because it was getting annoying and i was just like everybody wanted to be like i didn't like. I look stupid and i realized after two hundred tries so i like that. You said you were killing it because you were killing it while you're doing it and then you killed killed the thing it was killing. It was great it was it was <hes> i liked it. Thanks i have not replaced it with a new move or a new sub brand or whatever you wanna call it a chapter and you made some. I'm pretty good music so thank you yeah which by the way i mean <hes> the new. I'm not going to say the new because by the time this comes out. It'll be the old record but the record that was a record your eighth record on this comes out could <hes> i'm easy to find yeah. I'm easy to remember with an accompanying film that was easy to watch and beautiful <hes> it was cool. We were lucky i had <hes>. I have a friend that he lives in new york and he let me know how much he loved. The record i'd already i was listening to it but he's like oh my god have you heard the new national record all these female singers. Here's what made them so if you want to answer a couple of questions. He said he'd sent questions like i was like oh. If you wanna give me a question to ask me questions yeah i. I think it's kind of like a new segment. I wanna add which is like <hes> people who taxed with questions. I he does have a selfish scratch. They were supposed to be here talking to harry we. We're gonna do both harrison. Please piping. Is this part of it. I do this record so i'm curious. Okay summer is here to summer pipette she isn't she's she's now. She's been following all my research arm and <hes> okay. His first selfish. Question is can they get a ticket for me and beck's for their show in the park. Now the substance probably okay. What was the impetus for having such a strong array of women's voices on the new album was it was at the moment in history or that the singer's wife collaborates collaborates on the lyrics or just serendipitous yes to all three but also mostly another but mike mills is from <hes> he he started making a film. I'm about the life of a woman or port. He he tried to make a portrait of a life of a woman in in so we pretty soon that was part of the idea <hes> i and so my wife always written a little bit on records or help me edit and arrange in supplied some of the some lyrics here here and there but this is the first one <hes> where she wrote a lot on and but she wrote out a lot on it because of mike's film and it was it was it just needed a needed more literal literal voices and and and more perspective in stuff in more than just making i and in the band and everything he was doing but alicia brought incredible amount of information to it <hes> so so we were all it was it was it just needed it and it and it was kind of it was a natural thing for us too because everybody's things on it he's been kind of in our orbit <hes> or been touring with us for longtime we met some new people through a gallon dorsey and stuff but it was it was the film really that that that that pushed us further into sort of <hes> just redefining with the idea of like what this record was what the band was for this record you know and stuff so i don't know if we'll we'll tighten the we've become big collaborative group over longtime so this record is felt an extension of that sort of big collaboration really really fresh. Was it always part of the phone to have the text sort of yeah meaning yeah. He wrote the script he we give them a bunch of songs like fifteen he picked about seven that he really liked and he started pulling little things out of there and then any wrote the script <hes> winnie knew that he thought the script the most of it would be there as subtitles he he just wrote like a series of small <hes> <hes> just moments and scenes in just just images <hes> in a little description that kind of goes with it that would enhance it or at another level of information and then the song along the music ends adds another level of information and so as we started putting it all together he took out a lotta the subtitles because it was you know there's already enough afla layers of information but then the big green or sort of the big colored sometimes green something read some big colors go in there and those were he always always knew we'd have these things that can give you a moment to to break and so that because it moves forward so fast you know it's one of the things we don't take even like five second just like <hes> pallet cleanser exactly if there's a little dense and so as he somewhat nightlife for somewhat and even even it moves fast or and that was kind of his intention to things go too fast and you always wanted to slow down so cool and so it's over before you know it and ah so the whole thing was was slowly cooked but a lot of these ideas were there from the very beginning with with mike and he he pulled us <hes> towards him. I guess <hes> more more than the other way around. I guess how interesting a total departure from obviously how you've made previous records didn't do it. You know it wasn't like a film first and then you wrote. We've never worked with the producer like a creative producer before and i mean we we've worked with people mixers and producers that do that but whenever never they've done that with our band. We've never been able to let go of the wheel you know in them. It's always caused accidents. Mike mike was different. I think we just we read. A point is a ban where we felt that we needed more an outside voice. You know like we were all talking about the same things you know like the conversation. The musical conversations stations were becoming redundant and everything and we're all huge fans of what he does so. I felt like a real good fit. It was the first time we were like well. Let's just see what if somebody else's making making the decisions. Did you like that experience. You loved it. I loved it yeah. I mean loved it because i liked it most of his decisions and i just trusted at him because i've seen this other stuff you know i i'd seen twentieth century women so as whatever this guy is thinking about now and what's the right wants to dig into now. I'll help you know and and and he was kind of the same same way with us. He's what you wanna do can admit something to you right now. I texted. Mike mills the basis volume today. I'm the cave wanna crash the party and come in and we're going to be at the national debt limit <hes> cast media and he was like he has not for and i said i missed. Read the bio on i._t. House because is it says not to be. I thought it was like sure understand. This is basis for what he's film. Mike my who i know to my michael to open so yeah it was in fact there was a song on the record that talks about nice meals and r._e._m. Shadow to there's tons r._e._m. Show silicon and in fact from r._e._m. Was was was called out in reference into a mike most the director and how both of them are influences. It was kind of funny but mike mills director cut mike mills from our out of that song so i apologize okay. We mentioned him here today. He's been really he's been really funny about it to shed. No p._r.'s bad p._r. Responded and he's getting a lot of messages. I've heard anyway now. He's both both heroes. Equal heroes now is funny but <hes> mike mike mills the director though was like famous sort of directed the record funny way even when we were performing in stuff and in help rag with lyrics chimed in it was really it was really back and forth those really cool. Have you always had such a collaborative spirit or do. You feel like maybe once you found some recognition as as a band is when that sort of like kicked in for you more. I know that you've collaborated funny thing is we didn't actually get any recognition until we started collaborating with with much more talented people <hes> so our first two records we were just trying to figure out who we were and <hes> then a third record was was when i met my wife and there's a there's a song about her on the record alligator alligator called karen. It's a different spelling but so she was she was a big influence on me. As a writer then then she started like really kind of helping it she's she's an editor and writer and a poet and and so she started helping with the next record boxer nasa the one that sort of like <hes> kind of made this people pay attention to us i think in a in a bigger way and so it feels like the the collaboration and then in right away thinks stevens anne an clark and all these people started working in <hes> richie from arcade fire and all these other people in our horn players coming kyle ben so we that's right around then just this kind of just opened up and then we started getting you know we started getting better <hes> and <hes> so yeah. It's been a really important thing for a long time but this is the one where it's it's like most manifest itself in the most obvious way and how do you know each other harrison. Huddle you know matt. I guess through to ensure bridges yeah well. Actually we weren't even on this. I wasn't on that tour around well that tour i wasn't on because i had got an offer to open tour with my own stuff and femi said i should do that and then i think think we actually met at the wilton okay. Maybe yeah <hes> man. I got your back yeah. It wasn't wasn't that long ago that i met here now. It wasn't phoebe. No no oh you do. I know phoebe from when she was in seventh grade. Oh well that's crazy no i. I'm actually i'm not even from l._a. I met phoebe nashville. I i'm from new york. I'm from boston originally and then i lived in new york and then i lived in nashville and i made this friend <hes> who is a drummer and he was from out here but his dad lives no not lucas. I know lucas as well different drummer friend but i do like. I don't know any of your friends because they're super phoebe. There are a lot passed all of them as to play me and my band and videotape because i wanted young. I wanted like a young man. That was like i'm not going to be act like van and they rush is the lead singer played me. They were really young. It was like when they were fifteen or something this exists. It's called long way paper. Cranes play me. What's that could i play. You and i'll have to get the you got right. Yeah you get the better. I like what you got all right. I appreciate that. I think you're good visual embodiment of my soul. I think for a bio-pic god. This relationship just got caught in my own bio pic making about myself. Are you directing it. Yes yes it's going to be superman directs their own bio pic. That's that's it's called. You're welcome to the matt burning so told old story janda yeah. I was wondering so that's how you met not too long ago but well how how did you so and then he gave you his music and you were like i like this kid. I like his record a lot and then <hes> we've been i've been i've been working a lot of songs. We've been you work work with. The thing is really. I moved l._a. Six years ago in <hes> maybe it's just where our band is artists like clambering more but we never really did it that much. In new york you know like i didn't we weren't in a group of bands that really <hes> hung out and talked a lot. You know it's like <hes> there is no. There's no space. That's we're going to hold more than one band part of it. It's like you just there's no more room for we but like interpol practice right next to us and we knew them and we kind of knew use some of the other bands but there wasn't but but you but out here does seem like there's a real really really healthy <hes> sort of support group of people that all these different bands it depends musicians that really really like just go to each other shows and support each other and heavy just play on their records and all that kind of stuff. It seems like when i came out here there was a different collaborative spirit or something yeah. I mean i remember even thinking when i moved out here from nashville like being unsure of whether or not that would exist and because i kind of thought the whole time i lived in nashville like it was the nashville to me always kind of felt like behind in a way the whole time i lived there and it was like one of the hardest places to get people go out to show is there to go out for shows and people were there. I think that's changed a little bit but <hes>. I don't know why maybe it's because it's it's. I think there's was just more music here. There's there's different kinds of music. You know but there's a lot of really healthy pockets of like yeah rock bands. It's an totally singer songwriter. Musician is playing with each other and just yeah. There's not feels like there's more collaboration which is weird to say because i'm sure it's everywhere everywhere but that's i moved from new york and i i was basically that sense of there's something in the water here in the in the in the art scene like in the music and art as i come here. I was one of the early early implants in two thousand ten. I moved here and five three years five years later. Everyone else that like made made fun of me for leaving new york was here yes but it really was a different vibe because you know also new york carting your gear everywhere. I mean all of those things add to it but there was something very collaborative like people care about each other even though obviously there's you know which is interesting interesting to think about what maybe that's why launch left has made sense for the first time i conceived of it in two thousand ten minutes i the ideas collaboration over competition and how artists help each other you know yeah and it makes sense here more than maybe anywhere else right now. We're but luckily we get to have it on on the airway so maybe it'll make sense everywhere. I think i feel like it's kind of happening. I mean all over the place. It's hip hop more than anywhere. Else feels like chiming in lab. It's it's really cool. It's really fun in in in in <hes> yeah i don't i know why <hes> i mean there's this idea of like the singular autour the ban that this this unit i think that is a cool romantic concept except that it doesn't. It's hard to keep that together. You know it's hard to keep that and you have to <hes> have to change and you have to and so i think being a community that's like soon really supportive of just trying different things i think he just you have to like fail at that. Two or three things you try to edit three songs. You're right you know two out of three gigs you do go badly and all that kind of stuff and i and you kind of need your friends around because the first several years of the nationals only friends it's came to shows you know and and if they hadn't i don't know if we would have wouldn't have had <hes> you know you kinda. You'd need your loved ones. You know who will what kind of support you even when you sucked even when your your show was bad and like you need the people to to lie to you and tell you how great you are <hes> even when you you when you when you barely barely even good <hes> so so <hes> yeah it's healthy and in like arts. It's hard to make its argument in because it's everyone else's job to say why it's not great you know and it's in your it's like being an artist is like saying i'm going to be a magician. You know okay. You're not gonna do anything out there like if you're just gonna do magic tricks you they have to be convincing you know for for you to get away with putting your kids through school on magic tricks right right and so magician artists have is the rest of the world's job to say nope. That's not magic you know and because you're you're you're trying to be something that is that is that you don't have to go to work you. You know i mean it's hard where i work your whole life and ruined yourself trying never to go back to work but it's it's like creating something i have nothing yeah and so oh like the brutal world that are steps into and just you've just got. Most people are going to tell you. Ninety percent of what you do is not good. You know your whole life even little little kids you know they don't you don't realize but little kids get turned off by heart because an uncle says something you know like you can ruin an artist you can blow out the flame so easy z. and so you need a bunch of people were just relating your flame in town. You still you. Don't suck you know that's wise. You don't suck harry. Thank you you exceptional. Thank your emerging artists. It's easy. It's easy if you do that too. It's like that's the other thing. It's a world of abstraction. Where are you can tell yourself. You suck as much as you want. You know and that's like a thing that you have to grapple with to. Do you know what i mean. It's not bad it's it's not as bad as healthy amount but it's hard to. It's hard to be the only one like town yourself that. You've that that what you're doing. One is is is worthwhile n. We'll connect if it connects with you. It'll it'll connect somebody else yeah. If nobody else is telling you that it's hard to hold onto that yeah you know how many of the songs on your record our come from the place of iso- i don't. I actually don't know if any if i've they've ever written consciously out of suck but but i mean there are a have had experiences with that record like like like one i think about sometimes there's a song called. Take a walk. That's this really sort of just mundane song about whatever that early about like taking a walk 'cause you're having a panic attack and i saw and i had had this experience where i it. It was on a birthday labsi's cutting her head should play guitar audience. We'll split there will i had i was like my twentieth twentieth birthday and i a a bunch of edibles and a bunch of mushrooms and choice and on an empty stomach and pro which is something i had done and then also a bunch of mushrooms do chaser mushroom chaser chaser and i had this <hes> like panic attack that shocking and you know it was like a birthday party to you in your forty like a bunch of my friends there and it was the thirtieth birthday party had that year marshall yeah it was the thirtieth is my twentieth birthday was the forty fifth birthday that year but i had this experience where for months i had these panic attacks that all stemmed from this trip from basically i would have thought that would <hes> be like shameful thought where i unsought ahead you know fried my brain or it was my fault that i did this to myself and it would be like a hot flash and and like total disorientation and lizard brain and then for like three days i would have this really startling experience dance where i felt like i was dreaming and it was one of those like isolating feeling so isolating where you don't even talk about it to somebody because before you even think of doing that you're like nobody's gonna get this and if i do i'm just going to reinforce the idea that i'm an idiot and i took if these psychedelics on my birthday and fried myself and it's just gonna engineers if flashbacks you think you're having flat but i think yeah to a degree is having there's mental flashbacks i mean it was all psychosomatic because it was all in my head. It was like you know you can't do permanent damage for mushrooms or something like that but you know if whatever place you already in tips you over the edge or something yeah that record i promote i smoke ash but little we yeah and <hes> but it is it. Is you have to be real careful. You have to be careful didn't care about the place you're in. If you you want you know and then i like eventually kind of found myself climbing out of this this sounds so cheesy to say but i took up watercolor air color and it like really solved these panic attacks and then i wrote this song one night and <hes> and then i put the song on my record and and and throughout all that i had kind of come to discover that <hes> what i was experiencing with something that i guess is called like deep personalization asian disorder which is a an expect some a thing that happens psychologically where somebody thinks that they're dreaming or that they really can't be they can't convince themselves that they're not dreaming and then somebody messaged me after my record come out and been like hey you know i really connected with the song i was wondering if it was about de personalization disorder because completely echoed my experience with it and so that was interesting. I thought well then you sounds like you're. We're pretty successful with that song. Yeah i mean it was just shocking that somebody made a connection that says to me because i was like wow that is exactly literally what i'm talking about right here. We thought of this being dream my this reality right here just in general as opposed to i toyed with that idea definitely definitely well. Let me ask you on the would. It be as thing where you're like. Oh now. I'm having one of those moments where i don't know if i'm a dreamer. Were you conscious of it. I was conscious of it but it was it was like i didn't even have the floor to like. I didn't have my feet on the ground mentally mentally to even feel like oh no. This is one of those moments it's going to pass. It's like oh. No i am dreaming. It's back. I am dreaming. Wasn't you know that's the that's the thing it's like and so. Would you say like i thought i was just dreaming right. There like what i say. Were you with other people. Wouldn't it's like i'm sorry. I thought i was dreaming. No it's like a constant thing. It was like it was just the way everything looked like the way sunlight looked the way people spoke the way i spoke the way everybody moved at all. Just mitt mimicked a dream to me like i couldn't the rest of the record seems to me like very physical. It is yeah and i'm wondering like was that conscious to trying to bring yourself back into your. I think so i mean it's kind of it's interesting because if i've listened to that stuff it feels so like the way i'm thinking in the songs doesn't even feel necessarily like the same person but it was a moment in time where maybe i was pretty frustrated and angry and resentful but also all those things and happy and and heartbreak in heartbroken and i think i was kind of reckoning with like with <hes> yeah grounding myself physically or something or i don't know it's hard. It's hard to ten point what it is. I don't know i mean this record. You wrote it. When did you write it in. Two thousand seventeen came out in twenty eight years. Now i mean i wrote the. I mean some of it. I wrote and <hes> oh well. It came out in two thousand seventeen in twenty eighteen yeah but i wrote it like twenty sixteen. I mean a lot of people are going through trauma. Let twenty sixteen was a weird year for everybody. I now now in in <hes> for for reasons. We probably think of a few but i mean trump went in just made about a lot of stuff you know in like <hes> in in even your yourself and everything like that so it's like i feel like i went like one through all kinds of changes in the the past two years that maybe we're building up or something for that not not to say that that was what was going on with the dream the dream situation but <hes> i mean there was a lot personally going on and then there was that too and i think it just compounded itself and you know. Are you feeling we now <hes> better much better than i did and i mean i'm not having routine panic attacks. Necessarily i mean i still struggle goal with those underlying things you know like anxiety and depression and stuff but still dose i don't i i still still smoke weed but like like occasionally like like i had that t- which was great that he was so bad and <hes> but i haven't i actually have i guess taken mushrooms once or experience where i was laying mushrooms uh-huh before the show and i'm sitting onstage playing and i'm like i forgot i had to or i was on a tour of my friend known gunnison and we had taken them a few few days before it a museum and they didn't do anything so we were like playing boston and then we were going to toronto the next day. Let's finish these mushrooms before we crossed the border her right before we were gonna play and let's finish the russians before because the border is like it's even right now and i it was like yeah they won't do anything and then i'm playing. I'm by myself playing like my body feels so so hot hard the way that guitar sounds it's amazing. I can't believe the way like tripping out. I it might have been your greatest performance. I think i don't know maybe heard about that would have been it's all. It's all the way from news alert. Let me ask you though <hes> i've only actually i haven't done anything more than <hes>. We'd shrooms like once or do is an ask but i will say in college but i will say that the experience of doing that and i didn't do too much but enough of it that it was it did change the way i see the world. One hundred percent i do there is there is there is a scale that has been the permanent and i don't know if it's a vail. It's been lifted as in some ways. It feels like dip also feels like there's also been a a slate late. I was alerted to beauty in a way or just made a little tune into it you can if you look at the cl- if you it sounds silly but if you look at the if you look at the ocean like stare at the ocean you'll you'll you'll divine great wisdom and out of that and i think doing doing you you know loosen agendas and mushrooms as tune into that and that and so i can i don't need mushrooms disorder retune into that and i never had the tool smoking. 'cause i have my dad brig dabbing. No i completely agree with that adam. I mean all the positive experiences i had on them. Were definitely like the definitely the first time i ever took them. Yeah probably changed my the way i see things forever to most influential artists to matt verner no i you better probably realistically like me and you me know probably a <hes> dylan dylan hendrix offer how about you matt weights and cohen okay those they would come next and then there's the cave and then there's r._e._o. But like if you're talking about like i mean dylan dylan even even loved dylan as much now that he's that he's still only doing what he wants to be just like i like that. I'm so glad that somebody's out there. Just all the way out on the end of that limb yeah artists limb which is like you're in the very edge that i love that yeah alone should be more people like that but <hes> that's kind of a trick question to ask artist to to toyota. Oh yeah yeah you're you're telling me i know so many make lists of artists and i'm like oh that's only the tip of the iceberg start to like this amazing wrinkles opened up and you're like influence them and then i love also are <hes> just a ch- evolving and changing with with the tools and for example <hes> patti smith's instagram an almost more influenced by her instagram now than i am catalog of music well. Her books are also a whole ever low level but it's like yeah i mean like <hes> there's something they her messages to people on. Their birthdays are sometimes as profound as as any work she's ever done you know so. It's really there's there's. I think it's really exciting and i also just thomas. There's people just pulling apart the idea of what what what they are artists. You know <hes> it's kind of affairs but harrison has gotten more messages from patty than most people. I wish because of all your birthday probably sent you like ten. I wish marsha marsha started learning patti. Smith's multiple birthdays just ask him. Do you just have to comment on his birthday patty and she was almost everybody she's going to have. I just stopped patty. You're gonna have you're gonna your life is going to wear your. I don't know how marshall in harrison alone will take up too much time yeah him anyway. <hes> yeah the the the tools have changed and the artists that that <hes> grow with the tools. I think that's a really important important. I mean it's really interesting. I agree and <hes> i think technology for all and social media for all. It's <hes> you know at at times artistic saying that goes on. I think it's it's it is a new tool and it's how you use it and you can really influence young adults in a way that is positive and i love seeing being the artists that do that but do a funny way to you know there's so many i mean i love c._b.'s. She's she's got such a great sense of humor and you know they're there. It's not like she's constantly doing but when she does i always just love her comments about comments underneath her photos or whatever it's like. It's <hes> i love seeing people's personality. That's not just their music. Come out to social media especially when it's a force for good i'm i'm partial to that. I know i am impressed by people who can commit to it in that way where it almost becomes another statement or like it becomes a whole piece. Somebody was telling me a pastel look like they're layout has to look a certain way. I thought was interesting. Aloe akilah hughes she she gouzer long for phases where like all the posts will be like in the same color zone like all black and whites or then. They'll be like a month or every. One of her post is like there's red and like if you scroll through our thing it's like oh they're the blue the blue or the yellow month and she's so cool. I don't know how she's doing it. She's only take she's like dressing school but yeah you could do assistant. It's actually i'm doing it. It's hard work. I have to go through everything and all her photos. Does it even mike mills is like they would just talking about hollywood and putting a movie out is like you know i it's it's it's not always the the always a artistic endeavor a lot of it is just hustle and now in in in sometimes at hustle can can can take away years of your time you know and and and he wanted to do a smaller project because he's just like i was he wasn't ready for another four-year challenge battle uphill climb to just get something made and stuff like that and so we're delicious. Let's just make something small aw and then he got alicia to at least you it'd be an which was so just like things can fall together in <hes> skit. I started to get things started and they'll they'll. They'll end up being something you know and they don't have to be a hollywood movie or whatever or rock or or or or or a band or a rock record could be something else. Had that experience alongside your brother didn't you were you were kind of launching him as a rhody. If you will mockumentary hardly it was. I mean mean i won't say it wasn't one hundred percent flying the wall cinema verite but parts of it were recreated but my brother came on tour with us as as as a rodeo. I wanted him to come into this. We started making was we were just goofing around and we were just shooting backstage and and i was playing like a jackass this version of of myself a little bit and it was fun then my my my wife saw that footage and and that will i don't know if that's gonna <hes> you guys think it's cute but it's not really it's not really something for more than just maybe your social or something like that and she was like if you wanna make an interesting documentary should be about your relationship chip with your brother and she told that to my brother tom and so he started changing gears. In in the end they made a documentary which wasn't at all what we what he thought he was going to do and it turned out to be something entirely different but much better in in in my wife jumped in that was a lotta her jumping in again and just redirecting sort of maybe <hes> <hes> what the intention was you know the intention i was just have fun together and kufa office nine years younger and i hadn't hadn't spent a lot of time with them and so but then it turned into like more of an exploration of our relationship and can't believe your brother tom barringer younger than yeah. It's amazing and his name's mispronounce in my little brother was in platoon. He's amazing in that <hes> anyway. No tom different different. Tom berringer orange burning her mistake. Strangers is that film and not to be confused with mike mills's quality film. I'm easy to find very different different pictures alicia defenders in one of the two films go. It's legal fall to definitely see it. Watch it. I have a question about things that matter to you. Outside of the idea of artists on soapbox just actually heart space stuff like what you know. What are you passionate about. <hes> i use the word activism that scares people sometimes but is there anything that either of you feel you know <hes> you champion <hes> and you speak about <hes> whether through your lyrics or on stage or just to your friends and family with it because you don't want to do it publicly that matters to you. I'm always interested in that harry. I don't think activism is that scary word. Feel like it should be. You should be passionate about human rights. I'm definitely passionate about that. I don't know if i talk about that in my music. Necessarily i think i'd like to more i. I'm always thinking about that like. I wish i could be more political in my writing but it's so hard to do. Oh it's so hard to do it well. I don't think so i think you are. I think it's like i do think i think there is a you know <hes> taking on like a political political opponents or something song or or an issue in the song doesn't that you don't need to do that to be to be political right. I think when you write a song about mental health you know right empathizing our our writing a song about gender stuff you know in regardless of what gender or or <hes> or package you come you. You seem to come in <hes> writing all those things about this stuff. It doesn't have to be about trump right and i've written written songs that are just expect you know just frustrated expressions of anger at at politicians and that that's really fun onto that but i think the most and that's i find that you know a that helps me. That's a relief to great asong like a turtleneck song or something but the other the other songs i think is actually a lot more power weirdly in political power in in writing about about the murkier things of your own emotions because that's other people empathize with you feel less alone and that's critical totally one hundred percent. That's activism say it's activism of the heart it's honesty and getting you know being open enough to get that kind of naked with other people so they don't feel alone is is is a form of activism the last two people we on flee and the other was this kid <hes> what's his name preston maroney. I know preston. He was amazing. You think i know they both came on and i asked him this question or something like it and they both in their own way landed on being kind and yeah like totally you know whoever you come in contact with like remembering you have control that time with them until like so that the music amazing former like we jump for joy or it certainly did me so you know. I don't mean necessarily like a political act or like. You said you explained it really well matt. That's exactly right. It's more just like what do you. What do you pensive about. What does your heart say. You're you know as an artist had those emotions play <music> out and the great answers really so also the thing is i mean i. I've been asked him so many times of like. Do i think music music has any any effect. Is you know is is is <hes> you know our approach to do. Protest songs do anything or political bringing in politics in the art does it does it help at all and again like at least most of the artists everything they do is political. You know like <hes> their political songs sometimes of their lease political. There's like like there's just songs of like frustration or use when you put give give give washington the finger and that doesn't do a whole lot. It's feels great. I love i love photos of johnny cash giving them the finger and stuff but <hes> it but it's but it's it's the song love songs and songs about empathizing with other people. I think that actually have an effect. I i never really was political. I didn't really pay that much attention but i listened to a lot of rock records right. Now was also raised. Catholic and <hes> went to a lot of church church but but i don't like all the takeaways that i feel that made me made me a- semblance of a decent person a good empathetic generally good guy why we're on music listening to like and it's not just wasn't listening good guys. It's listening to to <hes> cat power or we need a simone or or the you know made me understand women <hes> or maybe understand myself you know in. Maybe a much more politically aware socially in an it was music. It was always music and and so does the does brock do does folk music or rock songs. Does it have any effect in politics not like. I don't know if you're going to change the course of an election right. I don't know but you're going to you're going to change the inner inner life of a lot like a lot of young people who were lost. You know in the me the way i was you know if i found i found myself politically in emotionally and you know through music. I think you know artistically all that stuff to rock records not through the bible or or through m._s._n._b._c. or whatever it was when i was watching those you know fifteen peter i love that i feel so like it's such a art and activism are y- same thing storytelling is always more effective than like any any kind of form of lecturing to if you re like all of my favorite books records or anything it's usually a moment or lira girl a one sentence that that i'll think about almost every day and and and it's because it's all like revelation within the story you know and i think i think when you set out to tell a story that is always more effective immediately inspires empathy. It's it's it's also. There's this documentary i love that i watched called white right. Which is this filmmaker d._a. Khan and she she's this iranian filmmaker and she goes around interviews all these he's neo nazis and white nationalists and <hes> she has this just like magical like empathy switch where she sort of makes them feel like her. She she aunt sincerely makes them feel like your friend. She's not like <unk> tricking them because she actually becomes their friend but she gets all of them to leave the movement <hes> by breaking it down to like you know you as my friend when you say these things that hurts my feelings you know <hes> know that level of like like that's something i'm passionate about that level of vulnerability because it's so terrifying find me. It's such a scary idea to be that open or that like i mean i think in songs i do that because it's the one place where it feels safe safe to do that for whatever reason you know if it's shrouded in a melody or something it doesn't feel as scary as saying how you feel about something like just another person that i think it's even more powerful than we think i mean right now. In this phase would feels like fascism in white nationalism and racism an sexism and women's rights are being taken away and there's this massive thing feels like it feels like it's stronger than it is now. I'm not saying it's not strong. It's terrifying but i think it's i do think like we we get in these bubbles in and we don't communicate. We just getting these shouting at the white nationalist never never never spoken to somebody. You're never had anybody even their sisters or their moms but i never actually just talk to them directly in courageously and kindly in the use awesome kindness is the most simple and it's it's hard to be kind to yeah it takes an effort takes bravery to be kind of in with. It's really it really really easy to sell fear and hate and just like the easiest stuff to sell and once once somebody gives you a reason to fear somebody else is always there a little bit thing. It's a terrible thing but it's easy to learn. It is a easy to learn. I think yeah with with compassion like you said with some kind connection and yeah well. Thank you those really profound. We heard a rumor that you were going to play live on the show acoustic for gonna play why that's really exciting. I'm going to be talking over his performance most of the time telling him to at least we're trying to listen spoken word will spoken word of the yeah just a little guitar guitar intro yeah you can just talk about. Do we get you to say my my name is tom. Barringer artist. I would like to launch is if you wanna tell them what song you're going to play and he can he can introduce. How did this on this. Tom barringer. I met this. I met i met this guy on the and the the set of platoon and he just brought everybody to tears one day on on the end of a rap session willem dafoe was beside himself and also harrison wickford madame about twenty five thirty years ago in the senate platoon areas looking good thank you can't tom barringer that was that was good no anyway do you guys like my godfather didn't send anything like that. Just just be you this matt burner and that was not tom barringer <hes> but this is harrison whitford. Take it away. I'm harrison whitford. This is johannes samuel singing with me. This one's just called no name song. Danny and i were talking skin just the other day under the kitchen light on coal the noli and and he said this line teaches you so many things but it won't teach you the man all theban look after me all myla iowa looking for me then i met you in the garden smelling flowers in the shade we need said lo you said loves lack daiwa on at fe away and we made pear. We do blur in the ny gut it ourselves in the haw <hes> sunlight addressing touchy. You are my shirt in jeans. We felt like lady bugs. Donnelly for evergreen did not know a stone would ravage displays did not know you assume n._e._t. In your face did not know i i was imperfectly didn't know i was no sane didn't know my hands could destroy as much as the create <music> <music> helped him <hes> from the ground where he fell. That's it you to quit. The spill burn. He said i'm fine. No windows knock doc me down the weather. He is saying well. You did not mean yeah no lie right through my teeth did not mean 'cause you and he will sleep so many things didn't mean. Do i only ever mean it when ah myself to you. Ooh it's gonna be a long time <music>. It's gonna be turn <hes> <music>. It's gonna me along <hes>. It's gonna be a long time. <hes> <hes> <music> launch left aims to create an intentional space that highlights and empowers all artists for whom radical creativity is not a choice but a necessity launch left begins with music but it's ultimate aim is to launch left-of-centre artists in all creative fields a._m. <music> regarding <music>.

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Inception (2010) - 10th Anniversary

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Inception (2010) - 10th Anniversary

"Hey everybody welcome to another bald movie today we're talking about inception. That was released on July sixteenth. Two Thousand Ten makes it its tenth anniversary. also has the distinction of being. I think the first, if not one of the. The the top one or two movie reviews. We ever did on bald. Move back when we only had one show called blonder. this was on episode twenty one the dreamcast and the inception dreamcast and I will link that in the show notes. In fact, our first idea was just going to re release that into the movie feed, and we listened to it, and we realized it sounded just terrible. Yep, the audio quality's terrible It's it's it's not necessarily representative of of what we are today and you know what had been. I don't know five or six years since I've seen this movie. As kind of eager to revisit it This of course is written and directed by Christopher. Nolan it scored by Hans Zimmer. like an instant classic, legendary score and stars, just a ton of famous people Leonardo. Di Caprio I. Don't think I need to walk through his Magdi Kin WANTANABE who've courses Puritan Godzilla. Letters from you, Ajima memories of Gisha. Batman begins the Last Samurai. Joseph Gordon Levitt, who got to start on third rock from the Sun, also has been in Batman Dark. Knight Rises looper five hundred days of summer. Marian Cartier. COTY are cut. The are cut. The are on the. I. Don't know I'm having trouble with the French who also was in the dark knight rises contagion. That, we just reviewed recently. Ellen page sorry of the various experts movies. Juno hardrock, and of course the last of us. It's not true. That's a lie. Common Misconception Tom Hardy who I just recently saw capone who is also in venom of the Revenue Mad Max Fury, road also the Dark Knight Rises, Bronson Rock and roll Cillian Murphy from. Batman Begins Peaky Blinders Sunshine Twenty eight days later. Tom Barringer, who starred in platoon, sniper, the substitute, the big chill, and finally my cocaine. Oh, how can you missed the the the link? To last week's podcast? He was also born on the fourth of July. Who Tom Barringer. Oh. You're right. He was the recruiter he starting platoon. Yeah, the Mike Michael Caine. He's been in everything he has he ever not been a star like just a massive star. I think we watched the first his first starring role in Zulu many many years ago, a commission podcast but he's been in every one of Nolan's films. I believe with the exception of. Okay. Yeah, but ever since since was the dark knight, no prestige and even in prestigious I think predates dark night but yeah and children are men. We just saw him about a month ago and children of in. I like this I like this movie a lot. This movie really caught my imagination when I came out, I got way into theories and kind of like the different ways to interpret this film and you can hear all that on the blue honored twenty-one I've found that held up like a champ. Ten years later I had just forgot enough about the movie to make this a really entertaining rewatch. Buzz familiar enough to kind of like you know, be anticipating all the things, the news coming How was Your House your? We watched him. Yeah I Found that it held up remarkably well. I this is maybe only the third time I've seen it I. Think I saw those two times before we reviewed it. for the inception dreamcast. And then I don't think I've seen it since certainly not at its entirety so coming back to it was like. Okay, my memory's a little fuzzy on some of these things but I remember most of it I certainly remember you know the ending. Which I think is what most people were member of this movie if they remember anything. because that's the big question. After it came out was. Is he in the dreamworld, or is he in reality again, And it seems like. There was a lot of supporting evidence for both sides, and so people were arguing furiously on the Internet. And Yeah I I. Just I was super impressed with this viewing of it, though the first times I was kind of like. The first time I a lot like Robert Fischer is in the movie where they are DiCaprio's Desanctis Shit and pushing him along through this plan, and he's just kind of going along with for the Ride Right Russ second time I was more like. Ariadne who's like there to learn the systems and figure out how this works and then sort of get inside of my sorry, not mouse head COBS head, and just sort of figure him out, and then this third time I was really invested in like the. The emotional and construction of the film. and I think because I've. Seen it five or six times, because I remember watching it three times and I saw it again like almost immediately after recorded a podcast because there's a couple of things, I just wanted to nail down some things that you guys were asserting and some things I got wrong, and I watched it another time for fun like a year later when the BLU ray came out and And kind of indulge in the special features, and then I saw like four or five years ago, I watched the rift tracks version, and it actively kind of pissed me off because I have a problem sometimes when I really enjoy a movie. Especially, there's been some a while and I watched. A rift tracks. Thing is going to be fun. I'm like well, Shit these guys. Making Fun of it or interfere with my enjoyment of the thing but since then I haven't seen it and I think it helps that like a lot. This movie relies on a lot. More practical effects than people probably suspect. Get lie. There are obviously CGI like the city of what was it what city in Paris or is? The city's folding up on itself. That did not literally happen but I. You know there's a couple of stunning effects like when Ellen page swings. Those big mirror panels shut on that. Walkway like that's really cheap affect. Anyone can do to Mir's button. fucking looks amazing when he got. Mir's that good that big. On on thirty five millimeter. Instantly I guess this is the last film to be nominated for an Oscar. That was shot on film up until Lala Land Rayleigh. Wow, everything's since has been digital which you know, two thousand ten and makes a lot of sense. like that's like really been adopted but I yeah I thoroughly enjoyed this. This movie is exciting. It's thought provoking it does an amazingly efficient. Efficient world building and you know as long as you hold as long as you go along with the two or three things leaps that the movie ask you to kind of investments world. It's also pretty airtight yet There's a few quibbles that I'll have that we can discuss. We want to towards the end, but yeah. I I really enjoy it and I think that. I think this is something you agree with that Leonardo DiCaprio is. Just, a monster actor. and. He's particularly good at investing emotion into characters that. You know like I'm thinking. There's two to scenes. STAND OUT! Gut Island one and this, where he reacts to something that is almost unimaginable like the death of your children to death of your wife, and a particularly gruesome way, and it's just who knows what that looks like, and then you see Leonardo Dicaprio do it and my oh. Yes, it looks like that right You know because it's not like you really emotionally. Connect with your told things about him that he lost his wife that he hasn't seen this children for while that, he's on the run, but you don't really emotionally connected because this this. This movie's a little bit more cerebral than that. You need that scene. where he reacts to these tragic events to kind of like you know really ground this movie emotionally. He gets like five seconds to do it and he crushes it yet now. Yeah, absolutely, that scene I. DON'T WANNA. Take much away from Nolan here on the emotional angle of this movie because I think. There's the the way that the emotional side and the plot side come together and our. Christopher Nolan makes like clockwork movies. He's gotten this impeccably. plotted film. That is you know. Maybe there's a whole or two, but they're. They're nowhere near as big as traditional or typical films. Especially one this convoluted right extremely complex. Plot dealing with multiple timelines, and you know rules that he's established, and he works very neatly within and then that always connects over to the emotional side of it like even when I think of things like inception or sorry, not inception What's the other I n the the other Nole in movie. interstellar. Okay Yeah, when I think of movies like interstellar. He's doing the same things there right. He's weaving that emotion into an already really intricate to tell story. And the way that like the emotion connects with the plot here just makes so much sense the scenes of of Mall in Invading the dreams that they're in trying to sabotage them, and that being you know cobs sub-conscious and his guilt over M- all ended the way that that all resolved by the film. It's also just perfectly timed perfectly paced. and so easily understandable. I can't think of any other filmmaker who tries to do things as wild as Christopher Nolan and just makes them so easy to follow. Yeah like even we're talking about He fucks with time or your perception within almost every film, yeah! The Dark Knight Trilogy Even. Dunkirk, because you, I remember you said that like a month or two ago, and we're discussing something unrelated and I'm like what the fuck dunkirk straight fordline. No, it's not. It's like three different timelines that. All come together in the last acclimate, Shit. You're right and that's. You know inception it literally is about that, and like in to some extent, the Prestige Memento and all that, but he just does it for fuck of it like it's I. Get certainly technique because it, you know even though these events are taking place a vastly different time soon scales. He's synchronized them in terms of tension. He and it's like one of things. Things where it's like it always. It is kind of a stunt that I do kinda think he does it just to challenge himself must because I'm sure he knows how to tell a conventional story. Look at the Dark Knight Trilogy But it must amuse him or to to challenge himself in a way, and it's not just for challenge. Sake, it always serves. Some part of the plot either increases attention. In allow it puts you like in the case of the Memento. Which I think still is my favorite movie of his. It puts you effortlessly into a very unique mental scape like you know. If you haven't seen memento, it's about a man who has short term memory loss. He can't form news short-term memories and It's it's like I said it's it feels like a stunt, but also it's they're lynchpins of the movie as well right, and he is a stunt that he then. Eight airtight movie around. Yeah, and I think there's very few movies that are that Trixie that hold up the multiple viewings like I can think of 'em night shamma lines. Since is one of those where it's like Oh. Fuck, am I sure I saw what I saw and you watch it and it's like an in fact, that's where I. You know multiple watches Vince crystallize. What I think of of the movie, and how is as tricky as it is? A place plays very very straight Yeah, I. Don Subsequent viewings after the first house straight for the film actually is. The first I I came out my head was reeling. I was like who is wear at any given moment. Second and third time's I'm like Oh. They're at this level. They go to this level. They get kicked out to that level. It's all right there on the page. There's yeah. There's no confusion really about any up. Yeah and there's been a lot of I mean I. Even contemporary any Asli. There was a lot like infographics showing the different levels where you hit limbo, and you know the different timelines and the depth, the characters of watch depth there at any particular time. As. One of the things that seems a lot more confusing than it is. Now there is still I think room for interpretation and ultimately what you feel. I, I do think you know and I said this on the dreamcast I do think there's a right answer or if. Right answer being the answer that I think Nolan. had when he shooting it but there's a lot of different ways you can terp this, not just in terms of whether it's real or not, but there's like you know a very popular. Interpretation that I don't think can be dismissed through evidence is that this is an allegory of making film? You know like this share, dreaming and leg multiple people coming together and how? Saito's producer and Dom. COBB's director and Ariadna is the you know like Artistic Design, etc, etc, WHO's Cillian Murphy play Rob Fisher Fisher Bobby Fisher the chest star He's the audience and that all tracks through and I read an interview that like NOLA surprise if people had that interpretation, but he said it makes sense because I've only really worked with like I wanted to model and efficient creative team working together and the only experience I have with that is in a film crew so like it's I I did kind of base these rolls around that because it's what I knew but I think it's really cool that there's multiple ways to look at this, and and still to this day you can make arguments for and against the reality of the film. Absolutely that ambiguity was intentional. Nolan talks about how intentional that was. How you're left to kind of figure out where you stand on the ending this film. you know he's he's not gonNA. Try and push too far. One Direction but it's interesting the you you brought up. You know how his his process of constructing this film Cana. How may maybe he thought about it? as as like a film set or a film production. maybe not such specific terms, but it's also got so many routes in film right like it essentially is film, but it's modified with all of these extras like the tiny plot You know the dream world There's so so many things that he kinda bolted onto the highest that it doesn't feel just like a regular heist movie and I really appreciated that, but you can go through it, and you can say okay. You've got your standard high tropes of all these character. These archetypes Dom. COBB's the ringleader. You've got the the architects like the. The the plan person. I don't know what to call these characters, but like yeah, you know you've got everybody in their role functioning as a heist team. And it it just so happens that lines up, but it had intentional right. you start out yeah like. The fact that you're going around the globe to assemble the team, you know that this is a special job that you can't just get done with their own, so you gotta go recruit the. Ocean's eleven, you know you gotta get the Chinese Acrobat. You gotta get the face man. You gotta get the confidence man. You gotta get the, and they don't have the technology and explosives, and this is all that like except for its dream Shit. You GotTa get a guy who is a good forger. Who can assume identities and subconscious? You have to get a good drug guy because you're going to have to suspend these guys in Unconsciousness for a long period time and it's it's you're you're right? Even got the scene where they're kind of laying out the plan and or drawing schematics of what they're invading, and it tracks tracks one the one. Yeah. Definitely does and I. I like the way that they introduce all these characters. It doesn't feel like oh well. We gotta get together. It's always like oh well. You know this plot point of why we need Ellen. Page's ariadne character to be. The architect bleeds over from plot to character right because dom is having trouble, earth is a dumb is dumb. COBB is his name you. Dom Cobb Okay I. Keep to call him Dob. Dob? Dob, yes, so so dom- you know is out of commission as the architect. Right normally do this. But we find out that is keeping him from. Being able to create because she would know the maze and she would be, but it's subconscious, right? It's like he's got an emotional handicap. That's keeping an absolutely yeah, and it makes perfect sense to tie the plot and the characters together in that way, and that's what I really appreciate about this movie third watches. Just the intricacies of all the pieces working together, which is why call it a clockwork movie right before we get too far in spoilers. Should I do because it has been a ten year old navy should I do a brief synopsis. Who this is the first time through, and then maybe I'll run down some of the awards that at one, okay, so inception is a movie set in the near future after military research and using dreams as a way to intercept conscious and extract information to target will. Targets will becomes if not commonplace at least existing in the World Leonardo, DiCaprio plays dumb a leader of a very talented team extractors that professionally steal information in this manner for higher, however, a powerful businessman has a different proposal instead of stealing information from someone's mind. He wants them to plant an idea in the air of a rival rival corporations head to force him to dissolve his father's company, gaining obviously competitive advantage I'm sure be Bazo. Musk lay awake at night, dreaming of this technology existing much of the movie takes place on multiple levels of dream space where personal identity the laws of physics and even death itself are much more conceptual and fluid, than they are in real space or real-life and that that's that's essentially movies. Hook if I. IF I said anything more, it would probably be massive spoilers. There's always seen. There's a really cool hallway scene and they filmed it all vomit comet. Does Not true What does this movie? made a lot of money and garnished quite a bit of awards. What what was it its impact in two thousand? Yeah, so the number six most popular film according to the box office in two thousand ten, and it was beat by the likes of Avatar and we came out the year before. Still making money right very very late in the year like December eighteenth or something, and then toy story, three which was the number one movie actually the year, Damn beating L. because the Pandora or the. Avatar split across. The euro had its big box office weekends in. You know twenty twenty nine, twenty nine. That's how you say that. Twenty nine. The I guess it surprising. One was that Allison. Wonderland was actually a more popular film than stuff faulk for real yeah. A movie does made zero cultural impact This thing had a budget of one, hundred, sixty, million, made eight, hundred and thirty million worldwide, so pretty big success. You know it's funny because this. Did you know that this movie had no second unit? Christopher Nolan was behind the camera with cinematographer for every fucking shot in this movie, which is like a very indie filmmaker kind of move. You don't usually see that. In one hundred sixty million dollar movie no. That that's almost two and a half hours long. Peter Jackson I think three or four camera units running around New Zealand all the time. Film stuff so I. Thought that was an interesting piece of trivia that it's like. You know he kind of went back to his inaugural roots, but with a blockbuster Batman budget. And the marketing budget on this thing was enormous was a million and I. Think back to that time. Were there many movies getting a hundred million dollars worth of marketing budget probably? Long. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's like Avatar probably did. Yeah, but I was kind of blown away, and you almost didn't even need that kind of budget. Although maybe I feel that way because they had the budget, but I remember seeing the poster seeing the shot of the city folding in on itself, you know and just going okay I'm seeing that day one. There is no question about it. I didn't need to be sold on this movie. Was, this movie I remember the trailer that like on the President Blah, and it's a prominent soundtrack in kind of started that trained right. Yes, like this movie had its cultural was very similar. I think to the Matrix and that legs. It popularize a bunch of different trends like the Blah. Fact and it just. Ever almost everybody I saw this movie. It was something that you know it's. It's it's it's A. It's a cultural touchstone in that. In that way now there's been a little backlash against it because it's popular and Nolan has continued to be popular and I think he's like. Offense like like a lot of true film, fans are mildly offensive. He's kind of almost got this Kubrick in. Stature among an and like, but he makes mass market kind of movies and make a ton of money, and that's like A. Some bad hairpin. That's hard for some people to turn like you know yeah. I don't know like it's possible that he's overrated as a director, but the man makes really complicated films competently, and they make a shit ton of money. Yeah, I appreciate the work of a good craftsperson. Yeah and no one certainly that even if he wanted the most, he's no David. Lynch I'll tell you that but lie, but he's also. He's also not Michael Bay WanNa Watch it watch piss away. Two hundred million dollars go go see a fish farmers to. Four or five whatever fucked? I've stopped training session. Yeah so it's. It's interesting that you mentioned the Blah because he did become ubiquitous after that and this movie actually won most of its awards for its soundtrack. Or for its for its. Sound, let's say. Won Four Oscars in in the eighty. Third Academy Awards. One for Best Cinematography. Won for best sound editing, best sound, mixing and Best Visual Effects so you? You got like you know. The hard sciences of filmmaking is what it's winning for. It's not winning for the art stuff and I. think that's fair. In this movie was technologically. kind of or visually kind of mind-blowing really mind blowing when it came out I am does that hundred million dollar budget like it. Much like the Matrix and actually funny enough ten years later much like tenant itself. Very mysterious like no one really knew what the hell! This movie was about you saw like you know like the in I. Remember in the Matrix. How faulk is all this different? Desperate things linked together and some unified, and like here you see this city folding on itself, and you see you in a trailer Joseph. Gordon Love is like dancing zero g in a hallway, and there's like an automatic weapons fire, but like almost like magic powers. What the Shit is going on like what possible narrative Hook could you symbol all these things on? And now you've got Nolan with tenant and the tragedy of this is I don't think it was going to see it. I like if tenant. The tenant comes out in the big box movie theater. I ain't going so it's only it's only chance to land as probably on direct video and I. If I'm Christopher Nolan. I understand being bummed out. I guess he's one of the big drivers of like. No, we are going to release this in theater. You know but damn like it's a shame, but like I. I do think that. It has been a minute since you know. I've seen a movie like a trailer for a movie like inception liked the Matrix. It's kind of like Jesus looks cool as hell. But what the hell is it about and the attendants our next next shot at it? Yeah, what was that Was that one movie about the guy who goes to the sanitarium and That's like the worms are the slugs are eels or whatever in the tank and he's like? Yeah, I remember that's that's another one that we were excited for the matrix potential in a zoo for executive. Yeah, don't bother without the other four that in lost. The other four categories best picture best original screenplay It lost both of those to the king's speech. Which I've never seen I'm sure it's great. Best art direction a loss to Allison Wonderland, which okay I can I can kinda understand. Best Original Score, this is interesting, because at one so many sound editing and sound mixing. Categories best original score lost to the social the social network Trent. Resident Etiquette advocates Ross. those guys have been doing amazing work in the last. Sure. Here's, but I can't home a single like You know You know like they did some bad ass. Work on watchmen to. And, I would immediately recognized I heard about I couldn't come you a single bar like even elect a really key. Kick, ASS Angela, Bar, sister night, Shit like I. I know the feeling and the the base hits. You but I could tell you like what the melody is. It's very you know industrial atmospheric whereas you know inception, it's got a recognizable theme. The beloit was such like it. Infected movie trailers for I think they're still pretty prominent movie trailers, but like for a good three years afterwards, every fucking action or science fiction or any kind of drama had to have won those big, you know, dissolve cut to spectacular special effects Bohua. PUNCTUATING each one? And I mean it's been parodied and. It's. Yeah it changed. It changed the the soundscape of film. Yeah. Well, where are you, WanNa, begin because I've got a couple of things I think just like the Nolan does really well. Okay Yeah and. I think one of the things that Nolan does really well is selling the idea of competency where the audience doesn't really have a good judge of it. You know there's a couple of things like that. There's shorthand for. Like if you're talking about intelligence officer and a movie. If, he can like you say. What do you know about General? Vladimir fucker well general, Vladimir fucker graduated Magna cum laude from the first Soviet class of nineteen, ninety, three with the bronze Soviet star like rattle off a bunch extremes like okay well. He knows his shit right. Soldier Field Strip in his weapon in five seconds. Like tells you, but like how to fuck. Do you sell competency as a dream extractor? But I think he does a really good job. In in a lot of this comes through the Lens of Ariadne because she is the audience surrogate, she is the one who has no idea about how this shit works, and they're explained to it, and just him like putting her through the maze interview. Like. It sells her. The idea like what is amazed. Blood is a proficient maze architect. Look like and like in thirty seconds. They sell you on. It like you know like a something adaptive. Quick on your feet. And something the audience can follow along with and I just noticed that like time and time again. He's effortless at showing like. eames is an extremely good forager. Ariadne's a good architects You know like the Yousef is a good drug cocktail guy. Like a sippy competent research guy. Yeah researcher slash kind of like the the the manager of the group and they do. He sells this stuff and again. You have no idea what the fuck it looks like. How would you sell a competent dentist? It's like you have no experience in the craft and he doesn't thirty seconds. It's kind of like. A really amazing. That again. It's wanted to laugh out. Loud scenes for me in this movie is when they do the thinking outside of the by a literal thinking outside the box moment. It's when he's giving her. The, Ted cops giving Ariadne the test. To construct this maze in a minute. Or two minutes that I can't solve in a minute and she's drawing on the boxes all square. She flips over the notepad to the blank side where it doesn't have the the graph, the you know, the graphing charts are paper and draws a circular one I'm like Oh. That's literal thinking outside the box moment. Yeah, I couldn't laugh but this thing. That's the box flipping the. The script it's He's just like I said really good at it now. I know some people think that like Ariadne. kind of drags down the movie, but like without her. You'd be fucking lost track of the movie. Yeah, I'd just like. There's so much she's. She is saddled with so much of the movies exposition, and that's true. That avid so is. Yeah, but I think that like you don't feel. It feels very natural because they've got you know It is I guess it's interesting. What did they ever explain in the movie why? They can't use some other architects? why they have to go to like Hobbes, dad, find recruit in architectural student or something like that well. I mean what they're doing is not strictly legal. And so I guess I would need somebody they trust, and you're not COBB trust. His Dad and his dad trust her. is also get the idea that this exfiltration is kind of like. Shady this, the the this is not like a white hat security team. This is more and I guess that probably those those types of people do existence world. You know like The people that trained Fisher in recognizing his mind. Probably are white hat exfiltrated or whatever? But. It seems like all all the extractors in this world are kind of. You gotta understand like Danny Ocean. You know. Maybe they're not actively wanted by Interpol. One hundred percents. But it's interesting because like. What he goes down for what he's. What maybe that's not true because what? He's wanted for the death of his wife, not that he is a renowned subconscious thief. but it does like. How do you do this job legally because you're you're your your extracting information gets people's will dragging them without their knowledge invading their deepest subconscious here's. Legal I think. He says somewhere along the line like there weren't many legitimate opportunity like he, he might have helped the military developed. This tech right was that, too yeah, and then the thing with his wife came up and then. He could find opportunities that work illegal and so. The government can sanction all kinds of stuff up and. Chill mass murderer legal. It's still illegal. The government tells you. The other thing. about Ariadne. The! Okay so I just don't believe that she's. Too Much in this movie I think. Look seventy. Five percent of this movie is getting us up to speed so that the last twenty five percent hits and I think yes, like okay. If you have a structural problem with this film, you don't WanNa sit through seventy five percent of world building an exposition I. Okay, that's Fine I. Get it sure but I I don't think it's a fault of this film I personally I really really enjoyed learning about this world. Learning the rule said it's working within learning how those rules can change given different circumstances Enchilada have character area any. God, tell these rules to. It seem really ridiculous I know we've been doing this for ten years. Joseph Gordon love it, but just just make sure we're on the same page what happens. How does a kick work in? Anything was also like I think no one had to spend a lot of time because it's not like these rules are just. It's like Harry Potter where it's like Oh, you know here's one lower, and it's Canadians nine avalanches. MAY NOT YOU WOODS UNICORN STRING? It's like. He's basing on a lot of things that we have common experiences like how many people been kicked out of asleep by the sensation of falling? Yeah, you know. His idea that like your dream wanted to signatures of a dream is. There's no like beginning like you did. You don't remember you're going to sleep like you kind of start. In the middle of things he'd never questioned that reality and the idea like. Oh, if someone is in there and help de question it, it would attract your subconscious to defend like that. That stuff is is really fucking. Cool the fact that you shouldn't dream real places because you might lose the connection between what's real and what's not the way that the dream world and the real world blur together in that like oh? There's a safe here. That's a safe place to put my thoughts I don't want anyone to know about right like yes. And portal the more powerful. Method of accepting an ideas to work with things from the person's own mind, something I just noticed. This time is when they hold a gun to Bobby Fischer's head and say tell me the opening to tell me the the best opening chess game, and he's rat, and he's rattles off some number. That number had no meaning, but they continue to use it. Like at every level of the dream now it is the phone number that the girl gives him. What turns out is a hotel room. Jurors were hotel room number, and then when he has to enter a code to his own mind, he has that number. D- thinks is his own idea. Even though it was just some random shit, these spewed out like all that Shit really tracks and it it uses everything that we all know experience about dreams and just says Oh. What up. There's a little bit of pseudoscience that Kinda stitches together, or these are like the. The keys you can use the hack into someone's conscious, and it makes it feel it makes you feel smart, because like Oh, I see these things and I can see how they fit together and ban there. You go even down to the time dilation stuff in a dream Shir second can go by in the real world, and it feels like an eternity Yeah, I love I. Love How it's all mixed together. There's other subconscious things they do in this movie like when they try and pull the Clark. Mister Clark Gambit I, think is what it's called. On on Rubber Fisher to turn his own subconscious against him. Before that happens, they have in the real world lear caprio toast, Cillian Murphy over his father right and so guys facing his head, and so I think he sees him in the dream world he can go. Oh, this is a dream because I know that guy in real life. And now he showing up subconsciously in my dream I just in my projections. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's really really brilliant. When it comes to the way, it uses dreams and the film Dreamy architect illustrated the pin roast steps. I've definitely been situation where I've like one of my. One of them WanNa, recurring nightmare have is I'm driving in my neighborhood and I can't quite turn into my driveway. Like I get there and I'm like Oh. God well I guess I'll circle around and like I feel like I can get stuck there for hours, and it becomes genuinely stressful, because for some reason I just can't make that turn. It's going to be Dane and like the the idea that you can have this impossible architecture that looks right from A. From certain perspective, but not an other and they do some. Pin Row every time they do the pin row steps. It's a practical effect like they do fix perspective, and then it's like Indiana Jones last crusade where it's like you know. He throws the pebbles onto the path, and it looks invisible, but then you. The camera comes over and say Oh, it's all fucked up that. Should you know and it's? It's not a digital effect. It's something that they actually built as weird impossible architecture, and then got the camera angles and made it all work. It just. It's. It's really neat. It's really neat. so we kinda talked about it a little bit of structure out about the aesthetics of this film because it didn't win for for the. Best Artistry or whatever the Hell? It is that year, but There are some aesthetics that stand out to me like when I think of this movie. And I know it's a small portion of this movie, but I think of that warm would aesthetic or that those those warm temperature Keller's. In like Molin, house and in the hotel. that's one of this I think of and the other is the snow level from. I don't know why associated with like Goldeneye and James Bond movies, and well so I found this because i. you know I just watched on Her Majesty's secret service that Lake Weird non connery non. More non you know. Craig James Bond the George Lazenby, or whatever the hell it this this that that level is literally based on the climax at movie and Nolan confirmed it like that's his favorite bond. 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Sometimes you see a person and in a movie think this guy is going to go on to bigger and better things. Sometimes they flame out. Sometimes they don't. And then I went after I saw that I kept on hearing like Oh man, you gotta see him in rock and roll and a Guy Ritchie film, Fuck. Yeah, watch it and he kind plays similar. Character in that film and then. I hear that he's. What is that Bronson and he's nothing like any of those things, bronzes, violent, homicidal maniac and prison, Bronson and EC him like channel some of that energy, and like the just you haven't seen the new capone which I. Honestly it's not I. Don't think it's ultimately worth watching, but he is I fucking force of nature in this film playing this like. You Know Al Capone in the last year of his life, whereas brains, getting holes eaten at it by latent syphilis, and all this other stuff He just is I. I don't know he's like a what a buff Gary Oldman because he can, he can really be. He can really inhabit so many different types of characters, but he also has this like insane physical presence that most traditional character actors. You know a guy built like Tom Hardy usually plays like Mad Max, and that's it like you know. He's going to be action here after action here after action hero and he's had this entire art house cinema career on top of all that stuff to and just always rock-solid, believable and everything he does I. Look it up in this movie I would say he's built I think that really later. Maybe maybe I'm maybe I'm taking my. You know Bain and Mad Max into it, but like I thought he was a substantial, because I also know that in the year two before this, he was in Bronson and he's ripped and shredded in that movie too right I mean maybe he's in good shape, but he doesn't seem overly. isn't see much bulkier than any of the other characters so i. know are not bulky. I'm not sure known. Known Atlas of a Man Leonardo DiCaprio caprio Joseph Gordon Levitt. Yeah right, so yeah tightened. Flat. References Yeah. I think he is most known for being a dad bod`ed guide now, so yeah. Yeah, so you put them up next to each other? He didn't look that much different from them, so they now suit. Maybe was the puffy snowed. Everybody talks but he definitely bulked up and in subsequent films, and maybe both down for this. If you're saying Bronson was before this and He was jacked. Also, but I impressed with with his stuff I I'm I was Kinda, surprised to find out. He's British After he did that accent in this movie I was like Oh that his relaxant, or is that not as relaxing guest? because everything I've seen him in since has been either in his mask strapped to his face and he's talking like. Weird. I can't even describe it error. He's doing a very very passable American accent, so. Yeah, he's great he's. He's shot to stardom in the last ten years. Sure I think there's a lot of great performances. We talked about Leonardo Dicaprio, and I again like he has to be an everyman, but also kind of a superhero in this film, but also ground emotionally in terms of his children, and his relationship with his father, and especially his relationship with his ex wife, and you can't talk about that without. Marion Cotillard. Because I don't think I'd ever seen her in a different film I've seen her. Since then a bunch of different things you know like most recently, contagion the men. She plays a real crazy bitch in this film, and it's really really good and disturbing and the idea. Like the you have to feel the horror of what mal is done and that like you know, he gets desperate and this you know His wife has lost her sense of reality in limbo, and well meaning he accepts the idea that this is not real, and he does it so well that it plagues. Her thoughts where she gets, and this is where a lot of the alternate you know interpretations of the movie. Movie come from the idea that real life can see my dream if you've been in limbo for a significant amount of time that but that yeah the scenes of her. You know taught ranting and raving batter. Children the plan that she has to make it seem like he's murdered her, so that she he has to kill themselves, so they can get out of the thing and see their children again You know, but also she has to play like You know someone that at some point that the Leonardo di caprio would still believably be in love with and can really torment him. And she's just really good and again with very little screen time especially since you go through over half the movie without even realizing the true nature of a reality you and the believability of their relationship really is. Is Sold to me by Leonardo cabriolets performance because I don't think the movie does much. The movie shows a couple of shots of them. Happy overlooking the city, they built in the show. They, they don't do much. The heavy lifting is done by by Leo Selling how he loves this woman, right? You assume that Oh. They must have had happier relationship at some point, but just like eat that moment where she jumps off the ledge and he. Like in real time. Fully like like unreality because you know, he's been through fifty years of limbo to like how unreal, but also how awfully terribly real it is like it's just again. I don't know what it looks like to go through that, but I think probably looks exactly like how he he did it okay. Let me ask you this. She just really good a plane crazy and also there's a moment where she's allowed to be genuinely frightening like when she first realizes pages. Intruding in their little dream world, and she's almost like something out of the Overlook Hotel of vengeful restful spirit, the restless spirit that come and get you absolutely yeah, though Caesar terrifying, and she's fantastic in them. Yeah, did you know scenes were like? They're sitting at the table and she's just trying to make her case for. You this. This isn't real. Come with me, You know, and even though we know, it's his subconscious. He's talking to at that point like you still feel the weight of those conversations and she's great at that. So so you brought up the idea that like. Dom Cobb Dom Cobb Cobb dumb whatever he he's. He's real hard on the COBS. Is trying to get her out of limbo, and they've been there for fifty years. Has Anyone did anyone stop ask question. Why. Why why is ready to get her out of limbo? I don't know if you live an entire lifetime of fulfilling happy life with God like powers in a dream world. Why come back to the real world and the space of four year it is interesting because I actually think the one of the prime uses of this technology would speak to extend your perceive life certainly. You could take four year university education in a shared dream experience. You could do when you're eighteen and you'd be done a month later. You could have could have a graduate degree You could have a medical. You could have a doctorate post doctorate degree. like I'm actually surprised that they showed that like mostly. It's as people being burnt out. I thought it would be like rich high-achieving college. Kids would be the one seeking out use of the under. Yeah. Yeah. It's like adderall. It's like adderall times a million. kung-fu Fu Right? Everybody can have their I. Know Yeah, yeah, you can go get get taught Kung Fu by expert and it takes you you know. That would be an insanely like a destinations you just have like. You're walking on the beach and there's a little booth. It's like Hey, learn how to surf and five minutes. Take it to levels. Die Down, and you're going to you're gonNA. You're gonNA, surfeit or limbo dreamscapes, and you're going to come out, and you're going to be ready to go day. One vacation that would be an insane use of this of this technology I would think so, and I also don't understand like. If you're gonNA live fifty years in the limbo, you're going to experience a lifetime. Why are you so concerned about getting back out I? Think that's the biggest criticism because like there. Is this idea that lag? Limbaugh will make crazy because the human like we evolve to. Slowly contextual I like you know Uh. I don't ever like when I think of myself. In previous versions of me like ten fifteen twenty thirty years ago. I never think of myself as what I looked like. Then I always think of like myself. You know and like the idea that you would live this life. You'd be eighty ninety years old, and then you wake up and you like it's. It's just an hour has gone by in. In your life that you can like. How do you remember like the my new show of your children's days routines, or what was important to them? When you've gone and had these guidelines, but the idea that they've spent fifty years in that like you'd think that threshold of those effects would already been would have already taken place, and you might as well live out the rest of your dream life Your real life get lost in limbo. You know if. However long. You can stay there. Just stay there I I don't understand Don's obsession with getting back to the real world, which is the main driver for the emotional side of this movie i? Mean I think you can like if like one. It would have been interesting because like I think it almost understand as a selfish desire, like if mouth, or if dom has suddenly woken up to the idea that this is just a dream. Like suddenly like imagine if if you like any dream, that's even pleasant like once. You realize it's a dream, and it's not real, and there's like it's it's. It's keeping you actively keeping you from getting back to your real life where you have children and family and things waiting for you like there's almost a selfish thing I've you know I've realized the reality of this nature now I need you to do it as well but they don't really make that case. I guess they had kids on the outside in the real world, Yeah that that could be a reason to go back. And, they did, but it's, but kids are still there like the those kids it's like this is just like You know you give your taking your kids at grandma. And then you go, take check into a hotel room and do a John Ounce of mushrooms with your wife like you get in all kinds of crazy time, dilation effects with that stuff and live alter alternate realities and things, but you know what your kids still there in the morning. You'RE GONNA. Wake up and be finding. Go see him again. But then again like I said I can't say what it feels like to be. In Limbo over fifty years in the wake up out of it. I did think like speaking individual effects like there's so many things that like. Like when mal and his wife are on the beach and they're actually building sand castles, you can see those buildings erecting and real time. And when they dismissed, demolish them. You can see them being flattened in the back it just. It's like a subtle background. Detail that I thought was really fucking cool. It gave you the idea. Of this like man, what if you're on your building sand castles, but that act is also creating full-scale castles in the background as it's really really neat piece of world building. They don't show a ton of it. Just enough to give You a vision of what? You would expect to see and let let's you know sort of run with it in your mind, actually have a ton of like minor gripes from the the film or things I don't do you WanNa do those like all successor? Do you want to talk about some things that the film did well are they alike plot related? Because I feel like we're about to learn a corner into talking about the plot. Of the movie. Yeah I guess there's more of Yeah I I. Don't know like here one. Tell me whether it's in It somewhat unbelievable that Robert Fisher would get bumped from his private private jet, which was a substantial vehicle. Then he gets placed on. You know, the seven forty seven and first class, and he has no entourage. Yes have personal assistant is a bodyguard. It's just him and his rich billionaire Mogul father's corpse flying. Nobody like like. Maybe it's like well. He's the he can only get one first class ticket. His assistant is like, but it's assistance now going to come in and check on him. you know it's like they do I think they they. They explain how you can get in that situation. you know Saito buys airline or whatever, but it's like. Yeah, this travels. Just yeah, it's like I is bought the airline. I thought it'd be easier, but like that didn't really kind of make sense okay. Sure. And then yeah, the other one is more plot driven is They play fast and loose with the idea of what can kick in what can't and like you know this? This drug protects you know like dulls all your senses. You can be slapped. You can be splashes. Water gunfire can fire head, not a problem, but a kick will still bring you out of it. There's all kinds of fucking kicks. That are missed. like especially in the van level where they rolled down an embankment at no point like. That kick you out asleep the fact that that when they hit and free fall its plot point that Joseph Gordon love is experiencing freefall well that your inner ear detects a drop, then drop detected and they're like. Oh, we missed that one we can. We can like I I. Get that the ones down below be stuck there, but Joseph Gordon Levitt should have woke up. Immediately smashed into the water, which would have really put them all in limbo Yeah, it's like the visuals of how cool they wanted to shout to be an bleed over between the levels were at odds like. Okay. You've got you know this rule about the kick, and if you experience a falling sensation, you're kicked out. But, then you also want to show like how the effects of. The flavell above you are affecting district level. And it's amazing setpiece like that. That Zero Gravity Shit with Joseph Gordon. Love in that. You know vertical hallway is. One signature moments of the film. It's like. That or you know the folding city that you know I. Think People Remember Most from this movie. And even I even thought I thought the stuff of in watching them inside the van. In super slow motion where they're like. arbs are all kind of flailing around and like I. Thought that was really really cool, but it didn't make. A lot of it and that's that's the only thing i. think about that like everything else I thought. Yo Him reading up elevator to explode the generate artificial gravity the fact that they blew up the entire base to drop everybody like all that stuff really was well thought out, and I think there's a couple of things where Nolan's like you know what fuck people either going to go with this or not. Because I want my zero g seen dammit. And, you gotta give it to them. Most movies have a lot more holes like Oh. Yeah, a lot more of Yeah, just paper over this and keep going. Yeah Yeah. And then like I, don't know there's a whole bunch of questions I have That's the there's. There's others like the fact that like I bided you hook a guy up to a machine in real life, and you can share his dream, but when you start getting multiple levels deep, and you're still using a dream version of that machine to do it and going into particular people subconscious, and that all tracks at some point. Like consciousness maps into physical body right. there's a little bit of like. I don't know that that all particularly attracts, but I think that's just one of the leaps of faith like the fact that you've got to intervene as they can. Depths Blink eight people in a dream world. You have to accept if you don't fuck you. This movie is not for you. But there's like close to like what the fuck is actually. What does it mean when they hook up a dream machine to someone's corpse? Three levels deep into you know, the James the James Bond level. What the Hell does that? Even what are you even doing? What are you interfacing with? Yeah projection. You can't come at this as like a science fiction. Angle I. I would almost call fantasy film. It's not even. They ever tried to explain it. They don't extrapolate on existing technology is there's not an ad? It's just I, didn't Matrix? That! There's a lot of that problems with maitre. The Matrix to you know like. Why does a fucking telephone line connects you, but they have like you know that this is actually. You know it's not none of Israel. It's but but there are real elements like these things map to some procedures and stuff in the Matrix, and like there are little holes that you can exploits hard points that call them, but the I I wish they had like some kind of hard point. Hand wave where they could explain like why this is, this is allowed, and then it would be the perfect airtight movie never bothered to try to explain the dream machine right, thank God because like how. How does hooking up an IV machine you know, put you in someone subconscious I don't know I. I don't know if Nolan has done like a like Kubrick right. He would have gone two years researching. coming up with the edges of science to try and explain. How could this happen? And maybe it doesn't make it into the film as an explanation, but it's in your head. Yeah, and it would've. It would've reflected in in right. Did Nolan do that I. Don't know he was. You know spinning this idea up in his head for ten years. so I'm sure he has a lot of thoughts on that topic. But you know I. Don't need it in this movie. Of My questions, I guess coming out of this movie is if you've gotTa told him. And you know the weight and balance of it. Would that told him not also appear to tell you. You were in the real world inside of your dream world. I guess is the idea that like he would behave. Differently in the dream world, but you're right like perfectly understand. Physics but mostly does you know so like? Why would Maoz totem continually spin in a dream? World obviously wouldn't in and fake world, the dreamworld or the real world. What it spin the? Why wouldn't behave and it's not like you drive a car and you put it in park or you put it in drive and it goes in reverse. Like all these dream you pull a gun, trigger and bullet comes out the back of the gun like there's. No other common everyday a in fact. I'll do you. One better goes connecting my issue. The dream machines work identically to the real life machines all right right, so it is. It is a really cool idea of. How do you avoid a limbo situation? How do you like if you're being How how do you know if you're in a dream or not? We have a totem thing, and and like you can't let anyone else. Touch it because if you do that, fucking architect with copy it. But Yeah, the movie itself does plays a little fast and loose with that and they also turning explain things like I think you know malls malls totem. Is the one that. COBB picks up at some point like he picks it up on the hotel room floor. and I'm not sure if that's the totem he's using now or if they both had two nearly identical top totems It seems to me like he's using her totem now. But what was he using during the dreamworld indicate? like when they went to limbo the first time. What was his toe? I know there's a theory that like his. It was his ring. Okay, I ask like. Scene where he's wearing his wedding ring as the dream which is true, which remains like I think that's the best some of the best evidence for the fact that the you know. He's in a real world at the end of the movie. They're very that that's they are inconsistent and something's, but the one that you can hang your hat on is yes, if he if if he's in a dream. He's got his wedding ring on If he's not in the dream, these real world, he's not wearing a wedding ring and to defeat that you have to say the entire movies. A dream and I have seen a couple of tips to say that that like Some of the altered. Do you want to get d? Do you WanNa? Talk more about the plot and because I also want. There's like a I got I got a lot to talk about as far as like whether it's a dream or not, and like other common interpretations and stuff like that. Where do you WanNa? Go with? I got tons of questions like. You know an airplane as your real world state what happens if you kick Outta? Three three dream levels and limbo level into an airplane. That's experiencing massive turbulence. Yeah. By downdraft aircraft loses five thousand feet and ten seconds. Are you freaking out like Oh God, we're. We're very yeah, because like again Yosef would kick out, but he's the dream host of everybody else like what the shit that especially psycho who spent? I don't know forty years fifty years in the in limbo he kicks out in. That plane has taken a nosedive and he's just losing his mind. For sure for sure. what do you think about? Did you recognize yuan, Muss, ex wife to Lula Riley I did yeah, I seen her two things and both times. She's cast as a pneumatic sex object. You've seen Shit westworld and this is the only thing I can think of. No, it's it's the like. Eighteen hundreds. Loved Romantic. Love story thing Jane. Oh. Yeah, that movie. Why Jane austen thing Pride and prejudice. Oh really she's in that. Yeah, yeah, she's one of the. Okay well. You know most of the protagonists, also some level sex objects. Female Protagonist up through the still very reason history. But the yeah, I. I was shocked to see you know because like I didn't know her from Adam, obviously sauce movie and since Westworld. That's like yeah. She's immediately recognizable. the other person I was surprised to see in this is dean. The dog shooter from the leftovers. Oh Shit. You're right. The customs agent is is he's played. He's played a lot of like kind of FBI CIA a police officer types, but yeah, that's that's the Guy I knew. You look familiar and I wasn't sure exactly where he was from yeah. The bulk of their our previous podcast on you know. Blue Yonder twenty one. WAS YOU and I? Who had seen the movie twice? Trying convince our. Former Co host Peter Street of the fact that the entire movie wasn't a dream which I think he was in a hearing of until our conversation. And it's funny because when I listened all three of US had. Not a complete understanding like all three of us made a serious, pretty serious factual air. I can't remember what yours was, but I know. Mine was I was denying that they hook Saito up to a machine on the third level to get the limbo. I thought the only way to get the limbo is a DI. Wai Sedated, but clearly they even suggested like in the in the text of the film that like the way Mao and. Dom got to limbo. was they just dreamed progressively deeper dream levels, so it does seem like all seven layers, and they just got lost yeah! It does seem like that. There is that that that possibility that's a ever present danger of the deeper you go, you might. You might hit limbo talking about the unstable nature it. But. I think that we you and I both came across the idea that because the movies constructed ambiguously. In fact, it's funny because when I got to the halfway point of this movie. I, started questioning my own. My God isn't going to be ironic. Fifth Time through this movie I become like it's all a dream believer. because there is stuff that you know. The fact that male is using someone else's totem the fact that he never ceases children's face the fact that You know there's the very bizarre conversation that he has with their grandmother. You know like there's a whole bunch of things that kind of point that direction, and then the final shot of the movie is the totem, the thing that Christopher Nolan said most prominently. This is how you know what's Real, and what's not real. He spins it. And, then he sees a children's face for the first time, and I think it's true to say his character no longer cares. Yes, he's a dreamer reality. One hundred percent himbal, walking away from that totem is the point of that ending yes. So he's at peace regardless, but as an audience, our perspective pushes in pushes in pushes in on that that seemingly impervious top, and then just as it begins the wobble. We cut away. Yeah, I still regret to inform you that the on my fifth time through I still think that it's pretty airtight that the movie is that the movie does take place in the ending Israel it. Yeah, and I fall into that camp to you, but I think there's a lot of. A lot of sort of wiggle room in the way, the movie in the language of the film like if you look at that ending. The ending feels like a fucking dream, right? He's everything he wanted he's. He's answering his way through customs. His father, his father is there to greet him with his children, who now turn around and show him his face like. Everything is going so perfectly for him. He's rid of Mal and this constant torture of the guilt of what he did. it just feels like a dream and yet. I. Really do think that like the end of this. You're not even supposed to really be asking that question I think the bigger thing you're supposed to notice. Here is the emotional growth of the character. Yeah, it's very sly ending because the it's like a dream, but on the other hand it's explicitly what the movie said was GonNa Happen, and so he's to do this job. This guy who's powerful enough to buy an airline on a whim. is going to pull some strings and getting through custom, so he can go back and see children, and there's a lot of things I think. People also remember 'cause likes contemporaneous. People said well. The children were the same age wearing the identical close throughout the entire movie This is this is indication. It's a dream that no time has passed but Christopher Nolan himself said that's not true. Those ditch children that you don't faces of are actually different ages and different actors. They are not wearing the same clothes and he intended like the fact that. So so. Why do you think Leonardo would look at US Children's face? I think it's almost like totem kind of thing that he didn't WANNA lose. He didn't WanNa start losing his grip on reality the way that he started losing his grip with his wife. Okay, the fact that whether she's dead or not the fact that he can't like he, he's going to have more even more psyche projections, and you started to see that anyway because they started creeping up into hotel. Room Or in the hotel lobby, various places in the dream start seeing his children, too, but he wanted to. I don't know it was almost like some like only he knew. The reality of what is children looks like and you know he didn't want to confuse that in any kind of dream state But that's again. I think the best the best evidence. There's two pieces lines of evidence number one the presence of the wedding ring. Is Very. Consistent very very very consistent, and some people tried to dismiss that it's not actually Ital- about whether he's dream or not. It's tell about whether he has come to grips with his his wife's death or not, but like even the scene where he's in limbo was Saito and he's done with all that he's still wearing his wedding ring, and at the you know when he's going through customs and hugging his children, no wedding ring, but the other evidence is the presence or lack thereof of now. Like. She is in literally every dream sequence in the damn movie. She is never seen in. What is quote. Unquote the real world so I think those will. She's in the hotel scenes which are flashbacks flash, but yeah, but never in like the she's never in the real world in a time where she would supposed to be dead and is alive Gotcha so I? Think that those that and the wedding ringer to to kind of like ironclad. Evidences that this is this is not this is not a dream. Do you have any like? Evidence to the contrary, because there's a whole bunch of other, not particularly I feel like the kid stuff there are two. Major points of regret in his life I think one is kicking A. Mall out of the dream world. And in the way he did it and it driving her insane and her killing herself. That's one too I think when he makes the decision to flee and leave his kids behind. that's kind of one of the big to of his guilt and I think at the end. He has both solve that problem because that's the one he can solve right and he's forgiven himself for the other Sure and ultimately I don't know if matters if he's in a dream because you know that idea like I'm I'm very open to the idea that you could live perfectly. Great Life in a dream world, and if you are never confronted with the idea that it wasn't a dream. There would be no difference effectively in living that life I living a life in the real world. Now I, think DA herb. COBB buys into that too right like at some point he's that's his constant battle. Like is he gonNA, give in to what the ideas that mal had about the dreamworld, being real, and and blur those lines to the point, where he can no longer tell the difference or is he going to try to get back to the real world and stay there? At the end of the movie. I'm not sure that he cares right as he walks away from that that spinning top totem. He's saying. I've I am happy like I've gotten to the place. Where whether this is the real world or a dream? This is what I want, and and I can be you know maybe a father dream kids I don't know but. He. He's GonNa feel something. More positive about himself in his life. Yeah. That's a great way to interpret like. You. Know kind of like to your point like. Why does it matter if you're stuck in limbo? If you're with the woman, you love, you have godlike powers. ETC, etc like He. It's a conscious choice to no longer be tormented by the question of whether it's real or not like you know dad here I got my presumably mom here. I got my children to love me. I don't i. don't need God. Damn top to tell me that this is what I need to be happy. I mean like I said the. It's like If you believe it's all dream, you guys essentially neo going back to the POD, but like I said I think there's a lot of evidence somebody other contemporary theories that I thought were interesting that I don't think ultimate hold up arguments you can make is. There's interpretation that like this is actually you're supposed understanding. Dom has been stuck in limbo, and this is his wife Mal's attempts to get him back. Okay, she's actually trying to inception him the idea that he's not real, so he can wake up and be with them I don't. The biggest problem with that theory is that like many doesn't seem to be getting him to do the things that he would need to do to wake up You'd have to understand that like malls like crystallize the idea of staying the dreamworld so much that he's got things mixed up like. Death is what? You know, put you in the limbo. Instead of gets you out because she's always saying. Stay here with me, not like. Hey, let's blow. Each Other's brains out of DC only does that when she's in the quote Unquote Real World Right the other theory that I think is very interesting. Very interesting in fact, I don't even know what this proves it just like. Is the fact that Dom has been stuck in limbo for years and years and years and Ariadne is his grown daughter, attempting to exfiltrated him. When this actually holds up a lot because back if you think about when he ultimately failing because she's then a child in his dream at the end of this movie, Yes, that's what I'm saying. I can't remember exactly what falls apart at the things that the evidence for that other than the fact that her you know someone he trusts. His father is the one that suggests this person out of all the persons in the world to work with and the fact that like when Mao sees her. She doesn't say like who the hell is this? It's. Why did you bring her here? What is she doing here? Almost as if she recognizes you ariadne is and is offended that you know Mao as the is brought, and you know that, would you know? POSSIBLY BE! She recognizes her daughter in some aspect of that. That was a really interesting theory that was like You know kind of popular at the time, and then, of course we've already discussed the theory that this is just all a metaphor for getting a project through Hollywood Alfred with. And how you can lose yourself in the project. You can lose. What's what's real and what's important to you and all that kind of stuff and you know you look around all the different people We said like that's where the artist in this case, Nolan was using his experience as a you know working on on a on a movie to inform like what it would be like to work on any other project complicated project. But I some of those alternate kind of like understandings and stuff are interesting to play with ultimately, not a satisfying and comprehensive is just what I think takes place on the screen I'm. All into kind of being a sucker, being a sap when it comes to endings, I like positive endings like uplifting innings. you know I like the occasional downbeat ending for sure for sure vast majority films I see I want I want some uplifting message Or moment of hope or something like at the end of like I I WANNA. Feel good coming on this movie. You know I don't think I'm alone in that. That's kind of what Hollywood built on so. Yeah I see it as him getting out to the real world. Did. You think that Saito at the like a couple of things I thought were funny on my. Fifth or Sixth Watch. This thing is like imagine you're Robert, Fisher and you wake up and you've been asleep for ten hours and you're about to land, and you look up and everyone in first class is got supremely smug, backslapping affect to the. Like, what the hell did! What did you guys do like Sharpeville? Boehner and you guys UNZIP. My pants. Sharpie like why? Why are you guys so smug and it's all kind of vaguely directed at me or around me, also. I think DiCaprio crush the feeling of a guy who might have been in limbo for longer than he wanted to and say and say those deal because you know. We talked about this on the dreamcast that I think they did a little light aging of the Caprio to suggest that he might spend a couple years down and say Saito's limbo with him. But Saito did not seem like a man who very first time ever. You know as a tourist on this operation who has not a lot of experience with this kind of dream stuff as a man who woke up and like Holy Shit, I was an old ass man. I've lived fifty years down in this place. What the Fuck it's! It's like immediately woke up and remembered Oh Shit I. mean imagine like if I asked you to do me a favor. Right like hey, Hey! Hey Jim a forty logoff today. Could you take a look at the ad copy, and forward it to so and so and then you get in a coma for fifty fucking years except for it's not a coma Romo where you're like in a matrix thing where you're living your entire life, and you wake up and the first thing you do is like shit. I gotTA fucking. Get that email the era like. He wakes up the first thing after going through all that blowing his out has an old band is like shit. I gotTA. Make this phone call wheels down. No it's wild. Actually that's where I have. The the biggest problem with this movie is comes to. How does site know that the plan succeeded? Man No. Uncalled because all he gets is a glance from from cop right. Yes and also the idea of like how the hell do you like? 'cause people change their minds to. Like, you know he he has. He has this profound dream experience and he's resolving that like I'm going to dissolve the company I'm GonNa. Do Blah Blah the like. How fast will linger logging efforts actually? Yeah, it's not like he's GonNa land, and like sign paperwork to dissolve the company right yeah. Like he'd have to probably go through months of things, and then like it's like. His uncle GonNa, be like. Are you out of your fucking? Mind like what of all his friends and associates have to say like? Yeah, like even if even if even of dominance crews exceed. What does that even mean and look like? but I guess we're supposed to the you're. You're supposed to understand the idea that like. If you accept something this well in this deep, it's like an it's an. But the that's interesting, too, because also. It's a pretty villainous act. They've swindled this guy out of his company You know like like this. Is Justice Immoral as like Godfather? Your. Is going on his contract or your brains are You know like this. This is Luca, Brasi Shit. It just happens all in the dream, the dream scape. And they've they've effectively also created. By, toe, as like a God among men in his industry right? Yeah, he is, he's like Elon Musk gone in limbo level as far as power levels then I keep on thinking like you know like Ocean's eleven works because the Guy Andy Garcia is a shit bag. Sure he's a bad guy. He's a gangster. He hurts people. He kills people he. He does a lot of illegal stuff, so it's like you know you're stealing from a crook. Murders crooked that Cillian Murphy is very very sympathetic in this movie, I think this has been abused and neglected by his dad and you know. Trying to do what's right and they go in there and mind fucking and. It's cool because Leonardo. Di Caprio gets his kids back. By doing the same thing that caused his wife to commit suicide. You know like the moral. The moral morality of the movie is is a little little. I I need to be accepted onto like thinking that that that that dom is a good guy here. You know I don't know you're not supposed to feel sorry for Cillian. Murphy. No I mean he's not the protagonist right, or at least not the main protagonist. He's really good at playing haunted and wounded, though Oh. Yeah. I mean I kept waiting for him to turn into scarecrow and every time they put him back over his head I'm like Oh. This is the moment right like they drip oils on his back and I'm like okay, scarecrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause. He's already wearing a scarecrow. He's like slightly deluxe You know. Major brand version of the scarecrow mass. Oh, it's very nice, mask a burlap bag, but yeah, he's GonNa come out of there and Batman mood. what else we got to say about this. I don't have a lot more to say about this movie that I haven't already said in the previous inception dreamcast that we did if you want to hear about the plot minutia. How all these things lineup exactly in the levels and stuff goes through that one because I think it's still holds up, but yeah. I came away from this movie. Appreciate on a much more Meta level like look at the construction of this thing. It's mind boggling to keep everything straight and tie everything so perfectly together both on an emotional and plot level crystal is A. A master and his movies like what an hour and a half, maybe an hour or two to two and a half two hours forty minutes. I challenge you to take a minute out of it. Yeah, no, it's. It's stream like as stuffed as it is. This is actually a jingle board. Tad almost all of the pieces that you can safely remove removed from it because. You know and it's funny, because like I think it's universal experience. At first time you watch it that you don't really get one hundred percent of it because I think it is like you know, he could have used a few more of those jingle blocked putting back on the bottom, and maybe some belabored some of these concepts, but he told you everything. You need to know to understand what's going on. On an intuitive level, and then you can fill those gaps in if you like it and you, you want to Rewatch, makes it more rewarding, but like yeah, it's. It's an incredibly tight film. I think and it's. It's funny, because like this is I love. Dan harmon determine loves the bitch about this movie. Nah Nah Nah never any kind of specifics. Okay, more of just like Oh look at this asshole takes an hour to explain how his movie works before he can get around to executing the plot of it, but that works so well just making shit up and all that stuff is but. The rules defining the parameters, and then he's working within those in really interesting ways I don't know it works for me. I, no, it worked for me to I'd I'd say it's naked. Jealousy, except for like you know, Dan does also respect other like the. He's super in love with like what the was it Schuyler. Brothers a did The. Stranger things scholar. duffer brothers well that about wraps up for inception this week. well I guess. If you still want another hour and a half a discussion, I will link the direct link to blonder number twenty one if you WanNa hear three guys ten years ago. you know. Idiot talking about inception for another hour and a half. It's there if you if you want the full three hour. Bald move inception experience for Tint aaniversary, who the hell wouldn't honestly. Next week. We have another anniversary. It's the twenty fifth anniversary of Kevin Costner's WATERWORLD UP FUCK YEAH! A movie that scene the much more ridiculous twenty-five years ago than it does twenty twenty yeah. I've only seen that movie once. I I'm excited to see how it's aged. and I'm looking forward to it. It's probably going to be a ridiculous thing but there you go We'll be watching waterworld next week if you want to join, US check it out on. Your favorite streaming site rented on Amazon. Pulled off your Blu Ray I'm sure everyone's got the criteria version. Bob That in pop in your laser disc, and it really geek out on it, but that's what we're doing next week. until then I Mehran and object Zia.

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Major League 30th Anniversary With Bill Simmons and Rembert Browne

The Rewatchables

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Major League 30th Anniversary With Bill Simmons and Rembert Browne

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You want us to lose then losing. But I want to finish dead last. Tom Barringer supreme skirts. Charlie sheet. He's things make me look ridiculous. Seems the most important things. Julie. But ball wouldn't have been out of a lot of parks named one Yellowstone. All right, Bill Simmons. It's here. My old grant land teammate my brother for life remembered Brown. He's here's well, how are you? This is your first we watch Ables appearance. Congratulations. This feels big for me. I I have to give a Ellison gratitude to rewatch the bills because it's become the thing that I run to. Yeah. Like, I can't even I'm so ADD with music like I'll make it to songs and then find a reason to stop working out. But with this. It's like, oh, I'm I'm exercising in the in the dead of New York winter while three of my favorite people make jokes about Conair. I could do this for an hour and a half. So like, I've actually lost ten pounds because of the remarkable. Well, we're very proud. We had this on the schedule for awhile. It came out thirty years ago this week and I was thinking over the weekend. Who would be the perfect person to celebrate all the things that are just ridiculous about this movie and lovable then I was like. Oh, remember, I bet remember likes this movie and. And. To nobody's surprise. You're like, yeah. I love that movie. And I really want to have the Wesley Snipes conversation. We've been ready to have my whole life. Let's start there. Actually, let's start with the Snipes a science this nights a science. I'm so I have so many one of the big things about this just dislike dive right into it is even before we get into the run that he had this this kind of started. Is Wesley Snipes the best. Actor athlete ever. Well, I have some disturbing revelations free later in this podcast. I'm just I was thinking athleticism. Okay. Oh, man. The anti already know. But I don't wanna step on the steps of science. But I'm telling you the answer is. No. So I mean, actually, let me let me rephrase that his is. He the best actor does. He have the best sheet of athlete roles. How about the the best sheet of of roles where he's moving. Yes. Okay. Then we can include passenger fifty seven, and we all you money chained. And he it's funny. I had Spike Lee on the podcast like six weeks ago, and we're talking about John, David Washington. And I was saying how I felt like John David Washington, the Wesley Snipes kind of I seven year IMDB run was sitting there for him because he's athletic. He could be inaction guy you'd be sports movie guy. He could be the cop and a cop movie. He's funny. Yeah. And it it really luminated. How rare the the kind of Snipes phenomenon is where he could be the bad guy in the fugitive remake he could be in Money Train. He could be Weltman can jump. He could be Willie Mays as he could be the guy saving the plane in pasture. Fifty seven. This is not a lot of actors like that. Which is why we're talking about the types of science. Yeah. I I mean, I think he is like absolutely incredible in this movie. Like, he like, he like his character is a character who, you know, think. The world of himself. But also is like super happy to be here. Yeah. Which is also kind of where Wesley was as an actor in his real life. And I feel like, but he also knew like Wesley Snipes. Was was actually like you. I'm about to be a hall of Famer same way, Willie Mays Hayes. It's like excuse me. While I start my run to the hall of fame. Like, it's it's it's a beautiful after real life merger. It was a lot of charisma and a lotta swagger, and it is funny that this was his first major role because it was very similar. He just shows up on the scene. He's like, hi, I'm a Manela's star. Now, wait who are you? So from nineteen eighty nine to ninety five this is his IMDB run. And there's only a couple there's only one movie that I don't really remember what happens in major league king of New York, which is the one I I saw thirty years ago. But I don't remember it outset movie motivator blues. Yeah. New Jack city, which has has stood the test of time. We'll say that jungle fever the water dance, which is actually a really good movie. White men can't jump passenger fifty seven best. He bangs out all those in a five and a half year spin. That's wild. And like you could it's the type of thing where like the the five year span is incredible. But he's like pretty strong right up to blade like he's still has gadget man and Money Train and murder at sixteen hundred which is like a Denzel movie that he got to play. But oh, yeah. Well, his next five movies after pasture fifty seven. We're boiling point rising sun, demolition, man. Sugarhill Money Train, not awful, not able like apex types. But still not like the worst run in the world. I saw those movies for like all that happened before blade. Yeah. Like, that's that's incredible. Because like all that happened in then he got a trilogy. Well, he also, you know, we're talking about when you talk about the action here championship belt and the legacy of action movies in all that stuff for whatever reason why I guess we could come up with one of the reasons but black people were not the stars of action movies. And you had action Jackson was basically the only. One of the eighties. And it's funny that it took seven movies until they gave him passenger fifty seven when it's so obvious that should have been green lit the moment. He was Willie Mays as like, all right? Can we have this guy? Save something now since I've been more movies. Yeah. The other thing I really like is that in the first ten minutes. Serano played by Dennis Hays bird, incredible interest. The movie looking like blade. I wonder Wesley was like, you know, I love that. Look, you gotta do that one t founded away. What are the great things about him in this movie? And I feel the same way about Charlie Sheen. Who's also incredible in this movie? They're not in it a lot. They're not in as much as I kind of want them to be in it, which is why when there every seen that they're in it. You're just excited that it's a it's it's really base as again. Oh, cool. It's Charlie Sheen. Yeah, you're right. It's doled out, very carefully. They're able to pull moments in this movie where I'm like, I haven't seen Charlotte's sheen like fifteen minutes year there. Well, we'll we'll get to later the the biggest flaw of this movie, which took away some screen time for those guys. But Snipes was thing we just out of curiosity. What what it? What was the number one Snipes character for you from that night eighty nine and ninety five run the legendary Snipes Assange run new Jack city like that's where I am too. Like for some reason new Jackson. I mean, this is so blasphemous to say, but like for some reason new Jack city lives in the same part of my brain, Malcolm X. Even though Nino Brown is like the worst version of Malcolm X. Yeah. Well, like, I mean, the rooftop scene. I think is is one of the seven or eight most memorable scenes of that entire generation of movie it holds up. So that movie like it feels like it's seven hours long. Oh my God. Like, it's in for a movie to for role to hole up more than white men. Can't jump which is like the like a perfect movie for me. Like, I just he was he was incredible. It's also interesting that during the same era that his career is is blossoming and taking off in a major way Denzel careers. Also taking off a Boston man major way. Yeah. And they were never at conflict. It was almost like a like a Jordan in Pippen type IM BA situation. There's never there's a movie out of those eight. Eight where you would have said, you know, what we really needed Denzel for that one. I mean, that's true new Jack city would have been really interesting. If he's if he's the lead Denzel other than that. I mean, Denzel in white men can't jump. I I don't know if I would have bought it. He's almost like too famous. Now, I think like I feel like Denzel hadn't like Denzel doesn't isn't doesn't work for new Jack city like he's not debt like evil like from like a sense now like, you know, there's just I feel like Denzel. You don't believe Denzel is like a bad guy until he gets older. I don't think he could have pulled off the outfit. It would have seemed like like dressing up as a bad guy. Whereas was his type it all seemed like any movie he's in it all seems like close he would've actually worn. No, I don't need to go to. Silence. Yeah. Tell me what color you need me in. But by the same token, like I wouldn't have wanted to see was Snipes in in Malcolm X or Philadelphia. Now, I might have wanted as what was the movie with John Lithgow that that would virtuosity? No, Russell Crowe. And I forget about virtuosity one of those action movies Snipes could have easily been in. But he he's really great. He's really cares Matic and they drink ricochet. There. Just hasn't really been anybody who is filled this specific type of actor kind of turf since which is why I think John David washed. I don't know if he's funny enough. But I mean, he's I mean, he's got like really good comedic timing when he's policies funny. Yeah. And when he's pretending to be especially over the phone in black clansmen when he's pretending to be a white guy. Like, he's he's hysterical. He's got it easy. But he's more deadpan funny for me. Maybe there's another side. We haven't seen yet Snipes like the white men can't jump because he's a terrible basketball player that will be they have to do a lot of slow MO and a lot of whatever. But he's the charisma that he had was really great. So all right. So we love Cyprus. There's a Charlie Sheen run that are going to have to talk about. Charlie Sheen from eighty six to eighty nine. It's it's pretty epic. I gotta say Lucas fair spew platoon, Wall Street, young guns, eight men out major league that's in four years and how he liked did not stop actor now. And and I like all those movies, and and he's really really good and really really likable in major league. He's he's probably those two characters are my favorite characters in the movie. And he really does seem like a baseball player. And then in the research it comes out like he could throw eighty five he wanted to play professional baseball took stare hurts to get his fastball for the movie, which is basic. Did he talk about that in like later like he did? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's my research. And he's just really great as Wild Thing. Say this one of my favorite sports movie characters where do you stand now that we have all the Charlie Sheen? Baggage. I mean, I I look at him. And I it's weird that in the beginning of the movie, I forget that like he becomes someone that I'm rooting for you because he's such like an early movie, dick and just like, you know, the punk vibe everything, but he becomes I like, my big take on this movie is that it's got like the one of the strongest fourth quarters of any film. No questions the first hour this movie, it's kind of like so like, what's the point of this movie? Like, you know, just kind of drags. There's not a lot of baseball. It's just like a lot of it's fine. But not really until you get to the point when they like when the coach tells them about what the owners plan is. Yeah. And and they've like, okay, we got to win the whole fucking thing. Yeah. That's when the movie becomes like, an all time, classic and woods twenty. I think that's why it's a rewatch -able because you know, in the old school way watching TV, we're flipping channels if you came into this movie about sixty percent in and that part was just about to come up. There's no way you're not watching it. If like, oh, cool. They're about to go on and run. Okay. You're completely right. And I think that's the way I saw a lot. Because when I went to go rewatch that I hadn't seen it in years. But when I went to go rewatching it I was like wait win. Is it happen? Like United make up. What happens in majorly? It took a minute for really going. But once it gets going, it's incredible. And she I mean, we know we're going to talk about like what scene, but you know, that last the game against the Yankees. It's just incredible. I mean, yeah. The first hour there's just a lot of Jake Taylor. Trying to win Rene Russo back like way. Creep. Oh that's coming up too. The the other one we talked about for. I am Debbie Reynolds. Who's the other big star this movie, Tom Barringer? Do I always felt like was like I was like to compare the IMDB in the actor careers to basketball players. Yeah. It's like I said the Moncrieff type of career for him in the eighties like way better than anybody realized it's going to take him way longer to get into the hall of fame, then it should. But then if you actually look at the resume, he's one of the signature actors of the eighties. He has the big chill. Eddie and the cruisers put tune someone to watch over me with released God shoot to kill major league. Born on the fourth of July and a seven-year run as pretty great Sydney Moncrieff is the perfect comparison point because like the amount that I know about Barringer is the amount than I know about Moncrieff, which is like I have seven basketball cards of his I never saw him play. Yeah. Well, he was best the second best to guard of the eighties. He might actually he was the best to guard of the eighties and. Just kind of disappeared embarrassing same way. This great run all of a sudden he was like on cheers for a little bit. And then became like a character actor, but he was a leading guy. He's great in the Big Joe in training day. Right. Didn't you know, he he has a whole character actor run after he was in sniper is a Wraith Bartholomew favorite low. Also, tell me 'cause I put bearing her and Corbin Bernsen kinda together. Because like, I know he was also like I never saw LA law read so LA law, but I know people loved LA law. Yeah. So there was this the legacy of whatever the best TV drama was you know, what you go back to like Saint elsewhere early eighties, and he'll stroke, actually, when hillstreet blues Saint elsewhere LA law and LA law had the crown for like I'm gonna say like four or five years, and then it eventually became NYPD blue in ER and then west wing and all those shows, but LA law was like the. The show for three or four years in. He was like the kind of dick playboy wasn't like practice like that level type of show. And you know, this guy had a history or this person. And this person shouldn't have done that. And they're all actors, but it's very dated like it's very very eighties. And he's he kinda belongs to that air. This is where new apex mountain later. This is he had LA law in this movie the same time, it never got better for corporate Burson this. This was this was the the legitimate all-time. Impac. So this movie. It was made by David ward. A lifelong Cleveland Indians fan who actually won an Oscar. He wrote the sting so he had some juice. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he thought the only way he was ever gonna see the Indians actually win. Anything was if he made a sports movie about them. So he put a lot of time and thought into it the the movie was partially partially inspired by the Minnesota Twins owner Calvin Griffith who in the nineteen seventies. When he was trying to make the Metrodome stadium negotiated for an escape clause in the team's lease which said if the team's home attendance was under one point four million per season for three straight years, they could be released from its contract and leave Minnesota and he actually let good players leave. He actually actually did tank and investors did by the team and they almost moved into move to Tampa. And then a local guy bought the team in saved it. So. This actually happened which I had no idea. Did you know that cool? I like that. And so he writes a script he bakes he based all the characters on different baseball players. He liked like Serano is based on the allu- brothers, which was supposedly superstitious Willie Mays. Hayes is based on Ricky Henderson so on and so on rates descript desert, Charlie Sheen's words, though, when I saw the script it wasn't like catnip. It was like crack it was probably as good a script as platoon seriously. Kerley. She'd compay major linked to put to. That guy's got a lot of drugs. Incredible. So. Wow. So anyway, great script and everybody wanted to do it and tune but baseball, and then one of the hooks was you know, he was with Barringer impotent in the studio wanted to get both of them, and it was like a reunion with obviously a lot happier terms. The movie was made for eleven million gross. Nearly fifty million in domestic release eighty two on rotten tomatoes is it higher or lower than you wanted it to be. You know, what I think I think it's I think it should be around eighty six. Eighty eight. Our friend. Roger Ebert who takes a beating on here time the time. He gave major league to one and a half stars which I thought was fair. I could not find. His ranking for major league one for some reason he did not review it sparingly. If he did review it I can find it. Okay. The other ones are not that good major league two's ref. It's a it's it's kinda one of those. I'm okay with it happened. I've watched it a few times. I would also be okay. If it never happened and not having Wesleyan major league too. Is you know, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. I would say rough on. All right. It's time for the nominees for most rewatch -able seen presented by sling. Tv if you need to refresh your memory of the nominated scenes for major league, which will get tuna second or prep from next week's rewatch -able field of dreams. Oh, my cat home. My Lord Malloch Ruben is going to be on that. And I'm making her cry. I'm just telling you now that's going to be a good one. Look no further than sling TV sling has both movies in their deep lab array of new and classic movies. Current shows, of course, live sports watching your TV phone or tablet whenever and wherever. Sling has broken the traditional TV bundle. Customize your channel at it. From one month next watch what you want when you want where you want. 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Yeah, I like the spring training the first day montage when we meet all the guys was a sniper over sleeps. And and then we see they got different guys doing and Charlie Sheen. You know, his fastball going all over the place. I just enjoy it. I like I as spring training. Montage is actually wish we had a little more spring training in this all of a sudden it was like, you know, who's gonna make the team or not red tagged is great the red tag in the locker cho- booth the steak Corbin the Roger Dohrn playing a prank on on Wild Thing and put in the red tag and his lacquer them flipping out. All of that is great. I don't know. Do you think they really did read tag day in real life because it seems a little farfetched it seems a little absurd? But I I mean rewatching it in kind of you know, it's super fun to rewatch move. You haven't seen since in like a decade in full because I kind of forgot. Who was getting cut? 'cause I was there outside of the main characters like there was some actual tension. Yeah. Which I liked it was I mean is a good good good plot point. I liked it up by my one thing with the spring training is I also love it. But the the combination of like, the really like circus music that they have going on here less the manager just doing that thing where he just insults every player. It's like it's it's kind of amazing but coming out of that like gruff like I smoked thirty five Marlboro reds. Yeah. Like voice it actually plays it hits. Well, so I also like a spring training. We're gonna talk about him later. But let's just say he's very well cast. I don't have another rewatch -able seen until the screw the owner. Let's do this montage when the manager gets ever earned together. It's it's it's not a chill scene. But it's close where you know, the team kinda just comes together. And it's like fuck us. Let's let's win the pennant. I can't believe she's doing this. Serano Homer in the egg. So the Yankee game four the whole year the entire Yankee game might be them rewatch -able seen. But if we're going to split it up Sorrento's homers. Great he did it in real life. He actually really did hit the Homer hose shit. And then he runs around the basis with his bat, which I think is absolutely the most underrated part of this movie. I literally wrote at the top of my sheet. Like why does anyone let go of their bad after? Like, honestly like talking about chills. Like, this isn't supposed to be a chills moment when he comes around second and just like pumps his bat to the entire crowd as he's going to third. I'm like that's the coolest thing I've ever seen in baseball history. So you think you think like Jean Jean Carlos Stanton should just do this. Because he's so jacked he's like holding thing that's big for most people like like, it's a sausage link. Yeah. And he's it it literally looks like I would go to war with him. If he had a bat, and he was running. I I love that's the I'm kind of pissed that it never caught on that seems great. The big Homer. They're down to nothing. They need some magic. So we got that one while things last walked to the mound Wild Thing. Coming out of the bullpen and the crowd losing their fucking mind and singing Wild Thing and that whole walk. Hey, Chris Burton? That seems just awesome. And it's legitimate because they packed Milwaukee county stadium with like thirty thousand people and filmed that scene like two or three times and Charlie Sheen was saying it was like the greatest moment of his life. Like walking out of the bullpen. Like, he's ready to run through a wall. It's really well, filmed and. It's just really love it. And then the next one. So I don't know if you group this together, not but then him striking out clue Haywood. Yeah. On three pitches. Just gassing up one. Oh, one kid the. Yeah. But that seems really well filmed, and what you know, what am I obviously, I love sports movies probably more than any other human being on the planet. Baseball pitchers. It's so hard to find an actor who could throw a baseball. And there's only been a couple, you know. And this is the big flaw bull Durham and Charlie Sheen's, actually a really good convincing pitcher because he was and he's throwing you know in the high eighties. They changed the man they made the mound fifty feet instead of sixty. So it seemed like he was even faster than the pitching. And it just seems like a hundred percent legitimate. All of it. It really does seem like he's this firebombing hundred bound our reliever who's striking out the best Yankee rates. So also another reason that scene is so good is that Heywood is an actual is actual baseball player. The. The the actor yet the way he spits. Yeah. I'm like he has to be a baseball player like an actor will never know how to spit as well as a baseball player, and it looks like it's so a shot. So well, I love you know, that you know, that guy won the Cy Young, right? Yeah. Gurvich? Yeah now. Yeah. So he was just a huge pitcher. I think he added on some weight after his career because it looks. I mean, he looks like a like a professional wrestler. So that k was great. And then the the actual ending with the bunt that the Willie Mays scoring from second Tom Barringer pointing to left field. And then doing the running bunt the slow motion of him running down, the baseline all that the Willie Mays crossing home plate, and then jumping in every is all that's really well found it's like a legitimate show scene. It's really good. What did I miss any rewatch -able scenes? Would you have added anything? Yeah. You the one that? I would have added was I love the AmEx commercial. Szeswith it. So you're looking for some Billy clubs apply for that little green homerun heater. Look what it's done for us. People still don't recognize us. But. We're contenders. Now. The American Express card don't still home without it ending with Willie Mays. Hayes sliding and saying don't steal home without it. That's incredible. But for me like I can't talk about this movie without discussing the fact that my favorite television show of all time is twenty four. Oh, yeah. Like, this is so wild to watch. But also in in the AmEx commercial. It's like you hear the AllState shit. He literally sounds like he's selling insurance. And I'm like, wow. This is like it's incredible like crossover. Yeah. Yeah. It's a double crossover, but he's doing in his in his accent that I would love to talk about it, something, you know. What's funny? If American Express just released that as a commercial just randomly just put that into like a final four game as an American Express commercial people lose their fucking minds. Yeah. That'd be incredible. They should done that for the thirty th anniversary. You're right. Most rewatch -able scene for you. What's the answer? My so. Yeah, it's it's obviously from that game. I I had it. I had it from I had it to large. I basically had like the game. It was just like which is forty five minutes. But no, I think it's from. I think it's from the home run to the strikeout honestly like from Serano some run. Yeah. That that is and those are pretty close together. So I guess we could cheat and say that's one big thing. I'm okay with that. The one thing I will say is the the final Jake Taylor's at bat. It's so good. Because I forgot that. He didn't it a home run. Yeah. I forgot that he bunted. That's I actually I had that for what's age the best. One of the what stage is the best for me is. It was just really smart to do that. And not have them hit the home run. Yeah. And I'm always impressed that I watched that movie that that it's like, oh, they they actually swerved on that one. He doesn't hit a home run does a frigging bunt. Yeah. As this like another side one like, I just love I do love. This movie has really good slow MO. Yeah. And I love the opening slow MO of Willie Mays Hayes in the pajamas. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Looking like like looking a lot like Mahar Sheila. I noticed. That's a good one. It's like a lot like it. Yeah. I like that. But yeah, it's got to be the game. So. Yeah. All right. So what's age the best? I have a bunch of stuff for this the opening credits that just capture how depressing Cleveland as Cleveland's a little less depressing now, but not one hundred percent less depressing day, really really hammered home. There's just a lot of smog and factories spitting out spoke, sad bars and empty streets. It's very well done. So I have that the cast is great. It's really really really well cast Snipes sheen Barringer Corbin Bernsen. Dennis Hays Burt who nobody had ever really heard of till that point the owner played by Margaret Whitton, which became her defining role the manager James Gammon sports movie hall. Famer Chelsea Ross we're gonna get him a little bit as Harris. They just hit and Rene Russo in her first movie, just I would say nine and a half out of ten with casting in this. And they cast it really good. Actual baseball players. Yeah. They actually gave a shit about that which refresh eight. Yeah, they didn't like that didn't bring the movie down. Even even Serano really seemed like a realistic. I could see him in the league for twelve years with a lot of homers and a lot of strikeouts. Yeah. Had like two hundred twelve home runs. Yeah. And and a million strike outs. I think young Charlie Sheen has aged really. Well, just because it's like, oh once upon a time I like that guy. Yeah. Bob euchre as the lifelong local radio hack is has aged just wonderfully because number one exists all over the place. Yeah. Especially NBA league pass. There's there's twenty Bob euchre's Foti route in these different cities. But it's just that was a great character. He's great knit. I don't know what the balances to in real life and him pretending to be like that. What do you think it was like fifty fifty? I feel like a seventy thirty. Ninety ted. He's awesome. We'll get him in a little bit. I like the day to day aspect of a baseball season from the players and fans perspective at that. Even for a short movie, it captured it well kind of Edmund flow of spring training and who's on the team this year. Oh, man. We suck way. Things are coming together. Uh-huh. Something's happening. Like does a nice job in those checkpoints. I'm still in this from Dannon Kelly who wrote about major league couple of years ago for the ringer. He he thought it aged really nicely. Cleveland's pre moneyball strategy moneyball is still fifteen years away of going after guys who were good at one thing. So Hayes for speed Joe boo for power von for philosophy Taylor's defensive prowess. This became a thing. Fifteen years later so way ahead of the way ahead of their time. The Indians it's also it's also just like a really good like often used sports thing where I. In in like, the Mighty Ducks movies. Like, there's like the dude who super fast, but doesn't know how to stop, you know, like, there's always the thing. Like, they're good at one thing. But you have a fatal flaw. Yeah. It's a good way to bring together like a rag tag group of people. Yeah. Ragtag good work James Gammon as the as the manager. Lou Lou Brown. Perfect. There's so there's been a lot written about this movie. There's a lot of like oral histories in anniversary pieces and stuff like that. And one of the recurring themes is that James Gammon extremely fun guy to hang out with last guy at the bar. Yeah. People constantly amazed that he showed up for work. The next day is like one of those guys I love reading about actors like that. But he like the personification in. You're not gonna believe this but him and Charlie Sheen really hit it off. I know it's hard to figure in eighty nine. You're not gonna believe this. But they they met spent a few nights together, but he's just like the booze the booze and cigarettes are just coming off him. Yeah. I mean, I I'm obsessed with him. Like, he feels like the type of dude who just like has a lot of friends who are cops. Right. Like like, it's like the one guy who like hangs out at the bar and the guy you'd ask if you wanted to have somebody killed he would know somebody who can do it. Yeah. I think he, but he's also like I like the first version of his character. But then when the movie turns that corner, and he has that scene where he's like talking about how the team has a lot of potential. Yeah. It's like it's like surprisingly moving. Where he's like he like he really believes in this team. Bob, LA like, I I love that. He kinda tapped into some, you know, some some Ernest vulnerability outside of just being like SCRUFF in everything. Yeah. If I was a consultant on this movie, I probably would have thrown away one of the seven Tom Barringer Rene Russo scenes in added the scene where he's James gammons in the dugout kind of watching a game. And yeah, you kind of feel feel him going over that little hump of actually believe in these guys. 'cause when he says that it's kind of out of nowhere. There's there sixty and sixty one there's no evidence. There's a good team. All we've seen is like mishaps guys running in each other. Like, you know, what we could win the pennant. It's like what? What's the evidence? Where that come from. He's like I saw I saw God catch two straight balls. We're gonna win the we've went to in a row, I think we've got this. So yeah, I would have said that a better another thing that's age the best the it captures some of the fun baseball stuff from the day to day like. You know, like like Eddie Harris the rule bending the Vagit. So on his on his chest. The weird superstitions born out Joe, boo. And you know, the rum and all that the the drama and guys fucking somebody else's wife, and all of it feels very baseball in realistic to me another would sage the best the Yankees villains in one thousand nine hundred nine a little controversial. They hadn't had the best decade the had lost their luster as the evil empire and major league. Just single handedly tried to bring it back, which I really appreciated. Yeah. Does when that when this happens do they have to get the Yankees permission? I think so. Yeah, I think baseball was probably excited that somebody was doing a movie because they have use the uniforms. They gotta do. Yeah. They filmed in a couple of different parks to like you see Fenway at one point. So they definitely like Charlie Sheen strikes out somebody's definitely Fenway park. So they they definitely moved around. And then the other thing Charlie Sheen is a pitcher we talked about earlier. So there's. Neural history that Sports Illustrated about this movie earlier in the decade. And she said, I had a great arm. I was just born with it I played at Santa Monica high. But because the academics shit, they pulled me off the team always on brand Charlie Sheen, and then Barringer said berringer's catching him. He said Charlie was great the first day. He started throwing two being nine of his first ten pitches were on the edge of the strike zone. That's how much control he had Charlie shade. Who knew Charlie Sheen a better athlete than Wesley Snipes? Yeah. I mean who knew so did I miss anything? What else does age the best for you? So I've got to weird woods. But just like I love the world of like managers having like absurd hunches, go, right? I'm upset like there's like he shouldn't have put in Charlie Sheen. Now, I'm just gonna throw it out there. Like just know even within the Yankee game. Yeah. Just that world of just saying I got a hunch like I loved the grizzled old manager hunt is the best. It's like it's like hitting cop movies. It's the same thing. Where the cost like, I got a hunch. She's going to be at that bar. Yeah. I'm like why there's a lot of like. But why do you feel that way? But anyway, I love that. I this movie reminds me that and I would love your opinion on this. Like, I think like worst to first works best in base in baseball. It's the most realistic is the most realistic, but in the NBA, but it also like I feel baseball not being my number. One movie is my favorite is my number one. Movie exports type movie to watch it's your lease. It's not your favorite sport. But it's your favorite sports movie. Yeah. Because I I think stadium shots are more dramatic in amazing in baseball stadiums versus a court or a football field this one especially but also just like I think it holds up in. In what I didn't even realize was just like an era like a like a eight year era of classic baseball movies. Oh, yeah. They're a lot. Like, I was I was literally I didn't even ten year. But yeah from bull Durham field of dreams league of their own sandlot rookie of the year. Angels in the outfield, the national like that's all that's in like eight movies. And I mean, eight years we just like pretty wild. Because I can't imagine to baseball movies coming out and consecutive years right now field of dreams. Yeah. Natural started in eighty four. And then I you could count naked gun actually at eighty six thirty seven because that's kind of like a twenty minute baseball scene. That's really funny. My I think just like baseball magic has aged super well like the baseball magic aspect of. Of a team going worse. I really works in this movie. You know, it's funny as you mentioned that that was the first thing all those movies have a couple of the scenes that are almost like Staples. Where the teams the rag tag teams just not doing well early in. There's always like the pop up or the three guys collide. And the you know the ground or of somebody's face the not top ten music happening in the background strike out. The guy getting thrown out at second base. Like, they hit all these beats. And then when things turn around. There's always the catch where somebody skills the wall. It's I it's almost like mandatory in a baseball film. It's like somebody's got to scale the wall and pull him back. All right. So I'm going to say for what's age the best for me. I'm gonna say Bob euchre because my that was my number one. He's incredible. Because not only is he great in the movie and not enjoy him in nineteen eighty nine when I saw this movie. But now when you see the local radio announcer hacks or the local TV hacks. These lifelong dudes you'd never know if they're sober. They're just they'll do anything to sell the narrative for the good narrative for the team. And it's just hard to separate any of them from Bob euchre. Yeah. His shadow looms over all of them one other one because I have had the opposite for what's of the worst. But the use of the word fuck in this movie is fantastic. We should have put that in our rating is crucial. There's a couple of good, motherfuckers. Oh, yeah. Where did they know nudity other than like in the locker room? But but yeah, there's some really good swearing in this movie. Yeah. That was the reason the reason I was always so obsessed with this movie is like was because this was the sports movie. I wasn't allowed to watch it. It's it's it's a very smart hook in a in an era of lots of little giants. Yeah. And satellite, lots of like movie, lots of sports movies aimed at kids and young teams. Like, this was the one that I could I didn't watch until I went to a sleepover. All right, then I got obsessed with it. What's age the worst, Charlie Sheen? He's aged terribly. Who's who's sage worse, the Charlie Sheen? Nobody, wow, it's just hard to separate all the Charlie Sheen baggage from this. And unfortunately, you almost have to approach it like it's just a completely different human being. Two black guys on the Indians total. They couldn't they couldn't messed around with that couldn't have had like six two black people in the entire state. It is this is one of the way to movies ever made ever. But it sounds like they made this in one thousand nine hundred fifty two were Pleasantville. Age the worst all the euchre imitators in future sports movies. Oh, yeah. Where they were like that character worked with try to have her own version the Bob euchre thing, and it's really never worked ever. This is this is a very unique success story. This hurts Wesley Snipes running. Yeah. Just just lay it on me like. I hate doing this to you. You did it you've done it to me many times. So I just like just go. This is one of the worst things I've done for you. All of Wesley Snipes renting scenes were shown in slow motion to give the impression that he was running faster than they actually was because the director said the dirty secret was widely steps wasn't fast. Oh my God. Yeah. And once I once I did the research before I watched the movie again. It really hurts the movie because I couldn't unseat it. And anytime he ran I was just like, wow was Snipes is in fast mowing on Hayes. He's you see his running style. Like, he's just on fast. Like there's this play on. In baseball history. Billy Hamilton is the fastest guy in the league. He's scored from second on a on a four hundred foot sacrifice fly ball, and he's so fast. And then I watch was steps three hours later who's supposed to be like the Billy Hamilton of this movie. That's like, oh, like your appendages are all moving in different directions. Like, he it's hard to NC. I apologize. Yeah. That's I don't I don't love. It gets worse. David word also said was was not a very skilled baseball player in real life hadn't really played and was so awful at throwing a baseball that they did not include any scenes of him throwing the ball. It was nice. It's just like a nerdy theater. Kid. He might be like like day to day Lewis or somebody. I don't know. Because he's also a bad basketball player like kind of famously they had to teach them how to play basketball, which leads to the question was Wesley Snipes of bad athlete. I was going to do this for unanswerable questions. But I think it's actually answerable we have this director saying they couldn't include scenes of him throwing a baseball. I really set myself up by starting this podcast. Wesley. They had to show off as reading seeds in slow motion to make it seem like he was fast. So there's one scene where they show him stealing home where they show him in full speed. I encourage you to watch that again. 'cause man, let's just say this. He's not flying. He's he's that sipping down the third baseline fun. Fact, it's not shot in slow motion. That's real unfortunately that. Another woods age. The worst this quote from kurban Bernsen Corbin Bernsen. This is also going to really hurt your feelings a couple years after major league I saw Wesley. I said, hey, man, they're gonna make major league too. And he was like you're going to do that. And I thought well how quickly they forgot he'd become Wesley Snipes. That rubbed me the wrong way. Wow. Wow. Tough tough for this types of science. We're going to get through this though. I still love was names. But yeah, yeah. I mean, he just thought he was bigger than major league. And and that's why Omar Epps was cast as Willie Mays Hayes. You could argue might have been better casting since he was actually getting athlete. Yeah. Also like, I think there's a little Nino in Wesley. So I'm not that's impressed yet carbon Berza killed right after the coven. So I think Omar Epps is actually my sports movie hall of fame. I mean, I'm kind of glad it happened. Because that helped out someone I love who is Omar Epps Omar Epps had he's the track star in higher learning. He's the kind of Alvin Kamara type running back in the program. He's Willie Mays Hayes and is in love and basketball where he makes the NBA legendary. I mean to me he's into sports movie, Michael Jordan, and then ten years later, he became Mike Tomlin events. That he actually became the coach of the Steelers. So that edge terribly. All right. We gotta talk about this Jake Taylor Rene Rousso relationship. I've never been less invested in anything. It's it is. For all the what age the worst that? We've done in the rewatch was this is way up there. I have no idea why we're supposed to care about the relationship. It seems thrown in we find out that they broke up because he cheated on her with a stewardess one. And then to she threw a surprise birthday party for him that he didn't show up at and then somebody served him with paternity papers at the party, which cast a pall over the party. So I wanna would she get back together with him at this point. We had to like damaging facts. Yeah. Also, like, they it was just the penetre. It didn't even win the World Series. Right. It's like I feel like I feel like she really jumped the gun. I also just I can't I feel like she was like headed to like a really steady nice life. And I just think it's a man this nice wealthy lawyer at a nice apartment seemed like a nice guy. She could just be a librarian. I'll wait until we do quotes. So my theory and this is Jake Taylor. Huge penis really Hon like really really well endowed, and she just had she couldn't couldn't shake it. So the other part of this what shavers Jay tailored kind of Stocker. Oh, not not not kind of. He like he sees her at the restaurant. And does this contrived calls her from another phone in the restaurant, and then interrupts her date, and is super creepy? He follows her to her place of employment at the library after she gives them the wrong phone number. So she'll never call her again falls sort of the library, anyway, then just shows up at her boyfriend's dinner party falls are this place and just goes into the party. It's a party of eight people just walks in not invited. And then her at the baseball game follows her home in the bullpen car leading to the immortal quote from her. Did you follow me again? Jay, Taylor stalker. What am I invested in this relationship? Why the reason it's so messed up is because it has set a terrible precedent, which is that it should work like that it worked. Yeah. Like this. This opened the door for a generation of movies talking. Yeah. I mean, we had this and say anything to there was this whole generation of movie stockers. Very strange, and I have no idea whether I got back together it which leads me to the other would say, it's the worst the freeze frame, ending great chill seen awesome. Then he sees her in the stands she comes out in the field. He picks her up, and then everybody kind of kind of kind of closes in around them and she holds her up. And then they freeze frame it. Like, she's part of this thing. It's like you. You were barely in the movie. Why are you in this? No one knows her. Yeah. Who are you better like twice? Yes. So what's age the worst for you? Those are some great candidates. Those great candidates. I have a couple one. I'm not. I mean, I don't want to I want to put respect on David s words name because he wrote the sting great. I'm not convinced based off of Sorrento's character that he has ever met a black person as of nineteen eighty nine. The amount of things that are happening. Like, there's like three languages happening. There's like food do like is he Haitian every time he talks there's like this like tribal music that happens in the background in the locker room. And that wasn't there's so much happening. That is just like so not, okay. It is so bad was he Haitian? What was it Dominican? He was he was Haitian, but was saying phrases that were Mexican and they based on on the allu- brothers. That means he's probably thinking Dominican. Yeah. But also, I just like the as much as I love the Serano at bat. The fact that he hit a home run after just being like, you know, what voodoo I'm done with you. I believe in Jesus Christ the movie. And then he gets good at baseball. I'm just like what I don't know. Anti verdoux. Don't do. Yeah. The movie is like is like David s ward has a has a problem with voodoo probably hates New Orleans. So I just haven't like also like. The speech pattern, you talks. There's this one part. He's like, I can no hit curve balls. I'm like is. He a caveman. Like what was going on? Oh. It's a wild. Well, and I feel like did as Hayes Burt was kinda just like fuck this. But like I got I wanna be a star. Yeah. This is this is my road to start him. I'll do whatever it takes. So that's that's my number one. So you think if this movie came out now, there would be a whole Twitter controversy online and hashtag, oh, I was racist and all this stuff right for the first time. I would be like the main person be like this. I also like I'm not the biggest fan of the tagline for home runs being off the reservation. Yeah. The eighties again again, I as an age great. It just didn't age great. You know, like someone being like show me a good sports movie. You know, it's it's a it's a it's a tough one too. You know for that part. To throw out in two thousand nineteen I yeah. Outside of that. So I'm gonna go I vote for ROY. These are some great candidates. I think a lot I think what age would sage the worst is Charlie Sheen who is one of the all-time celebrity train Rix that we have and it's really hard to separate that from this movie but honorable runner ups to the Jake Taylor stocking and Wesley Snipes running. And then all this stuff. You mentioned I think everything's. A nine way tie for first place yet the movie like the movie as a whole still has aged really those last thirty five minutes. Yeah. Let's take a break to talk about black tux. Weddings could have nine an province, but the groom's look shouldn't be one. That's why the black tux dot com designs rental suits tuxedos that you'll love even if you end up getting featured on a list of twenty three epic wedding fails. At least you look good. For your close up. The black tux in easy ordering process. Online brings your suit or tuxedo straight to you pick out the black tux dot com. Request a free home try on you can feel the fit quality before you commit the black tux. 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Diane cannon for the row of Rachel Phelps, the filmmakers, but the studio really wanted a Margaret Whitton so thank candidates, and now she just had Laker games. She's a great. I think she's a great villain in this movement. She's really good. Word said a lot of people don't know this. But Jeremy Piven was in the movie, he was a bench jockey. And all the bits were him. Yelling insults at opposing teams that didn't really work and cut the whole thing. He was I'm sure is disappointed at the time. Damn Jeremy Piven Rene Russo was a model had never acted before. When she got this movie out of that sign of casting. What if I just was shocked by that? I didn't know that other than that they cast really wanna cast Dion waiters. This is tough because the damn waiters. This is basically like it's all supporting roles in this movie. There's no real star than Barringer. I decided to make Charlie Sheen was Snipes Corbin Bernsen all of them are notable for Dion waiters. I think the only acceptable candidates. I think are the for for the limited amount of time there in for the impact, I think are the owner and Bob euchre. So I'll let you pick. I really would in your mind would Haywood count as Dion waiters award. Oh, that's great clue Haywood. Yeah. That's that's my vote. Great P vuckovich is clue. Hey, we'll convince the other acceptable candidate would have been Bob euchre's partner. Who do you like them? Got a lot says weird faces I tried that guy to all right half fast internet research. There's some beauty, sir. Snipes turned down a role and do the right thing in order to start major league real not sure what role. But. Yeah. Maybe it was like Sam Jackson's Gary. I don't know. That is cool. I just found this out. I was stunned by this. Tom Barringer turned down the role of sunny crocodile Miami vice which is really funny because he dresses like he's in Miami. Vice like he he dresses like sending crack it. So I'd feel like he might have regretted it. Yeah. He's like alright. Bought the unifier about the outfit. He's like always wearing white and salmon blazers in light genes. Yeah. In alternate ending on the Wild Thing edition on the DVD's shows a very different way for Rachel Phelps for her arc to end. Lou announces he's resigning Phelps reveals the threaten moved to Miami was merely a ruse to motivate the team, and that they were on the verge of bankruptcy when she had haired of them, and that she felt like he was the right manager to lead the ragtag group or lawn and and disol- worked out. And the audience is hated it. And they were like why why did you make this person? No, good personnel long. Stop it. So they cut the got rid of that we mentioned despite being saying Cleveland, the film was principally shot in Milwaukee much cheaper. They shouted Marquis county stadium. Walkie county stadium is now a little league baseball field called. Hellfire field. So you hellfire ho fire field. So I think that. Good twenty thousand extras in the stands for the Yankee game. Dennis Hays 'but when the team ran on the field with the crowd wearing Dennis as Bert a strong, strong rock of the man admitted to being emotionally overwhelmed by the experience. I get it. Yeah. And Steve Yeager who is a former player technical adviser. He noticed however won't do as he said. That's what it's like a hundred sixty two games a year. He was he was the third base coach he was and he was also berringer's stunt double a catcher. The way that Duke Simpson. The ANC is pitcher was played by Willie Mueller. Who is apparently a major league? I don't remember Chelsea Ross sports movie hall of Famer can you name the other big two movies? He was in you know, I can't. But the first twenty minutes of the movie, I thought it was Billy Bob Thornton. He he that. I can sold her brother. So he was the bad guy in hoosiers. Oh, yeah. And he was Dan Devine and Rudy. He was the Notre Dame coach. Oh my God. He is hot Famer we make the sports movement hall of fame. He's in. So he said he was forty five he pitched in college at southwest, Texas State, and it had been twenty years since he threw a ball. Sheen heard his show there during the during the filming because they were thrown so many fastballs every day and said on the way to work he would stop at the doctors for quarter shots shots and anti inflammatories. This is the movie that vitam really pushed Charlie sheets drug habit over the edge. So Mitch Williams. Remember him the closer? Yeah. He joined the cubs in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine the same year this movie came out, and they started that's how he got the nickname Wild Thing. And that's when he started coming out of the bullpen in the Wrigley field. Organised on the cubs would play Wild Thing and this movie amazingly. And I think it's true unless somebody can prove me wrong created closer entrance music. Ooh. Of that. So the Charlie Sheen the Wild Thing gets borrowed by mitchum's in the cubs. And then becomes a thing and leads to thirty years of closer music. So that's probably the biggest maybe we should put that as the woods age the best. That's sick shrew cultural impact. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Another bad Wesley Snipes story. Somebody. Apparently he was complaining because they kept shooting him. Sliding. And he said what was wrong with that one? Steve Yeager said he had strawberries from all the sliding he didn't wanna do anymore because it hurt and Steve Yeager said, I know it hurts. I've been doing it for twenty years come on Wesley. I feel like I well, he it's like he got a ego before the movie came out. Yeah. Stuff. Rachel Phelps is ultimate goal was to move Indians to Miami. Made this move in eighty nine eight years later the real life Indians lost to the Florida Marlins based in Miami. That's fucking weird. Yeah. Wait, can I can I can I bring up one quick Wesley thing that I completely forgot. Can you imagine going on a date with Willie Mays Hayes, and he takes you home? There's eighty five thirty black gloves nailed to the wall. What a creepy way to live. Yeah. That's pretty straight. I couldn't stop thinking about just like how that would play out in real life with company over. There was a scene shot with Jake in Lynn wells, the Rene Russo character where they got married that was going to be after the Yankee game that they deleted. Thank thank God. They should have deleted the entire character. Hayes bird said he hit it out of Milwaukee county stadium and that Homer in the game three fifteen feet three hundred and fifteen feet down the line and left. It hit the top of the wall went over. He was stubbed Hayes bird also said, I don't think there was ever a closer cast. We hung out together. We went to bars together we were a team James game. And had these great poker games. Go. Yeah. And here we go. You're gonna love this Charlie Sheen on James Gammon, James Gammon. You wanna talk about an absolute fucking Warlock. This kind of shows up one morning, and he's so hung over that it has the bar still attached to his head. I've never seen a man in this much pain. Trying to make a Cup of coffee. He was an awesome. Tiger blood Warlock should. Gonna be this. But James, given Donna live anywhere. I mean, I mean James gammons one of those dudes that like it's like white Danny Glover like I can't even imagine him under fifty years old. Yeah. Corbin Bernsen on Charlie Sheen. This is all off from the world history. Bet it Charlie was the ringleader. He was a chick magnet. It was the most astonishing thing any of us had ever seen. He was the pied piper of beautiful women. And then words said Charlie had a lot of women flying in and out of Milwaukee. His biggest problem is trying to coordinate the airline schedules. So that these women wouldn't run into each other. And then she'd files that up this it wasn't as bad as on young guns a year earlier, we made that one in Santa Fe, you'd flan Albuquerque drive the Santa fan of two lane highway the girls that were leaving would pass the ones coming in major league was so physically demanding you didn't have a lot of time for that Charlie Sheen. Wow. I not not a surprise. The last ten years of his life has played out. Bernsen actually mistakenly punched Charlie Sheen at the ending. It's a good punt. He hits him, and he apparently had a wealth. It's a really good fun. Punches also unexpected which I love you just like I again, I forgot like, you know, all the people who were rivals come together. And I was like, oh, yeah. They're going to show you got punched. That's great. So the lady who played Roger Doorns wife who is not Jamie Lee Curtis. I think Jamie Lee turned it down last minute. 'cause I thought again, I was like I know that that's not Jamie Lee Curtis. Her name was Stacy Carol to I credits. That's it never acted again. After this movie just decided to raise a family thirteen year old me huge fan of her in that movie. So some sad news martyr Whitney owner. Not no longer with us died in two thousand sixteen. Yeah. It was. I was like oh. But has this whole crazy backstory, she dated Ron Shelton. And who wrote who wrote and directed boulder in nineteen eighty eight. She maintained that she helped write the film when they were dating. She sued him. He denied the claims he said it was patently false. But according to a court document, she received one hundred thousand dollars in two percent of the films that profits to settle her claims martyr Whitten, I believe how weird is that. That's a that's a that is not the story. I expect you to tell. Yeah. So that's it for half ass internet research. Apex mountain? Charlie sheen. Yes. Or is it to Neff, man? I mean, two and a half men was the most successful show of here. Like eight straight years. I don't know. I thought I was I was leaning towards that until I I forget about two and a half men. I gotta be through enough men. It yet. Is it not barrier? Like, I feel like. I mean, this is like the individuals great run. I don't know if it's going to say I was gonna say platoon for Barringer because he did he win. He won that. He went in a Oscar for women to vote it. I don't know if Barringer did a definitely got nominated but platoon allowed him to make movies like this side of it somewhere in there. I don't know if it's definitive I think for Margaret Whitton definitely James game indefinitely. But for the big stars. I I don't think it was a mountain for any of them. It's not Hayes bird because his former is I mean, president Palmer's iconic. Just movie pave the way for President Obama pave the way for Barack Obama via president. Without this movie. There's no Bronco Bubba. The Joey pants were named after Joe Pantaleo for best that guy, we it's James Gammon or Chelsea Russ. I feel like people know who James Gammon is. I don't think people know that Chelsea Russel's name is Chelsea Ross. They just know him as Eddie Harris or the guy from hoosiers or the guy for major league. So he wins that one would this movie been better with Danny trae, oh, St. Bush, Amir, Michael k Williams we needed to make Kate Williams in this movie because he would have been the third black person minute. Yeah. Even if he's in the stands, it's like another black person stands I'm here for that to Saul. Ruben ick. They knew award for for best overacting. I gotta go. You you probably feel differently. I have to go with Roger Dorn fielding grounders at third base. Like he was being shot by snipers with figure out why. With. Why was it? So debilitated to field hard grounders. I've never seen anybody react to them. Like that. Like, I mean, unless you're eight years old like he's in the major league major leagues. He's he's far enough away from the batter's box that it shouldn't be like he's getting shot at my son is eleven years old and plays third base and his good at third base and has never reacted or ground or like that ever. And he's eleven so I don't know. I don't know what you're doing registrar picking nets. We've picked a lot of knits already. I just have to extra ones. Yeah. They mentioned it Rene Russo says at one point in the dinner part of their Jake used to be one of the best catchers in baseball until his knees went do. We really believe Jake Taylor is one of the best catchers in baseball was he like, we're suppose think he was like a Mike Piazza in the early like he'd never really gave off that good of an athlete or baseball. Now. His throwing it wasn't like Tim Robbins, boulder and bad. But it it certainly didn't look. Had a canon either. And I think they stunt double immolate. I don't think he was Terrano on the other hand Surat does Hannah. So yes, Arado he's basically SEO Quique thirty years. The the game winning bunt. I just don't think. Jay Taylor beats it out with his bad news. I'm so even if it took the guy by surprise, I still think he's out. Yeah. He needed like the angels from angels and outfield to fly him to first base, or it should have been the third baseman should have been coming over to the third base bag because Willie Mays Hayes was stealing in that have gone sideways and that should have thrown him off bounce. Do you have any other nitpicks that we haven't already covered I have one big one. Okay. So you in the dinner party scene that a great scene. No. He mentioned that he makes league minimum. Yeah. I type this is actually amazing. I typed in league minimum. And it auto populated nine hundred eighty nine really as in like someone had the same question. Like, what was the league minimum for major league the movie, and what was it sixty eight K o adjusted for inflation eight nine hundred eighty nine. That's one hundred and forty one thousand dollars. I feel like they make it seem like berringer's our minimum wage, right? Busted, he's living with Charlie Sheen, which they never really explained. It's just thrown into one scene. Yeah. I feel like they really make it seem like he is like living like in a halfway house and has no money. But I feel like, you know, he's still a professional baseball player. He's got some money. Also, only nitpick. So I've I've I've to other nitpicks based on this then pick. This guy is such a horn dog that he's like banging stewardesses and getting served with paternity suits at his birthday party. It is now a sexual in his early thirties. That's it. You just gave it gave up sex. We never seem to hook up with anybody. You just loving you. Just love Moby, Dick. How do him and Ricky Vaughn ended up living together? How is that decided? Why would he want to live with this fucking weirdo who just got out of prison this guy? He was allegedly one of the best catchers in baseball. Why doesn't have more money? Why didn't he live? Why didn't you have at least a condo in Cleveland that? Yeah. Myself the financials don't make you needed a roommate. He's probably like a three time. All stars. Like, I need a roommate. Who should I live with? Yeah. Serano or Ricky von his car had like, no hubcaps. And it was like like making like stumbling to the curb. Yeah. It'd make any sense I have another I hesitated. Put this as a nitpick, but I'm putting it on. Anyway, I'd love to know how long it took to actually drive the bullpen car from the stadium to ask. Because those things don't go faster like fifty miles an hour. He got eight hours later. Yeah. Is there like a dedicated sidewalk from the stadium to her house like you on the road? She didn't see where he's just on a road with cars honking behind him. He's going twelve thousand our. Yeah. You're actually that that that is completely. There's no way he makes that party. The the other thing was Tom Barringer supposed to be like eighties hot. I think he was. Okay. Eighties like rugged rugged. Rugged handsome. Okay. Type. Look, I can't remember my other question. I have. But those are those are some solid. Oh, my other picking. It's I guess. So Roger Doorns wave sees him on TV, leaving the hotel with a girl. He somehow doesn't realize he's on TV. Even though there's a camera crew within announcer. Like, he's the worst adulterer probably of all time has no idea he's being filmed or anything. The wife decides to get revenge and she's gonna sleep with Charlie Sheen. How does she find Charlie Sheen? Did he have he was hanging out with? And if he did have a bar that everybody knew hung out with wouldn't he be surrounded by girls already by himself in this empty bar. He's like a famous guy in the Indians. They're about to be a playoff game. They really make Cleveland seem like it's a town of forty nine hundred. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, there's there's only one bar. Yeah. It. He makes it just that doesn't make any sense. But I one other nitpick Ben Lindbergh actually wrote about this on the ringer today. This is a sports movie staple for baseball movies where they always screw up the lineup. They think we're never gonna notice. But they don't realize we going to watch this seven hundred times. So Serano hits a Homer with two outs in the seventh inning. And the way the order works. The top of the order is Hayes Jake Taylor for some reason Betty second Roger during third and Sorrento fourth surroundings Homer comes to out. So the third out is conceivably made by the number five hitter than in the eighth inning. You figure they go out one two three in the eighth and Tomlinson should lead off the ninth. Yeah. Because he's a stencil with the ninth hitter. Because Hayes comes up after him as been limber points out Tomlinson comes up with one out in the ninth. So there's five outs. But there's only four spots between Serano and Thomason. So. So either the Indians batted out of order or they used a tenth hitter or they just completely screwed this up or I am not sure what really happened on this one. But again, a baseball movie staple of batting out of order. And hoping that we never notice. All right. Best quote. Oh my God. This guy is dead cross him off. Then obviously, it's time for some changes. This guy's years. Jed cross him off them heads for bets. Keep war. Hey gopher. Forbath? Yeah. Which handicapped keep that's wall. Just a bit outside Vaughn into the lineup in his first offering. Josh the bit outside. He tried to corner missed. Has your wife and my kids up your butts? Yo, boo. Fuck you Joe, boo. I do it myself. And then the guy third his own son in a father son game. What other quotes do you have? Jake Taylor in the library when he's trying to convince her that he likes books. Yeah. He goes. I'll check it out. Right now is this the whale section still sore? I never read Moby, Dick. You never read anything. I asked you to check it out. Now is this the whale section? I'll bet what's his name at the restaurant. Read it needs. Needs about Moby. Dick kills me. I don't know. There's there's also. Willie Mays Hayes going we should have gotten the live chicken. Yeah. Yeah. When they give him the KFC chicken. I really like I don't know why. But I really like when Willie Mays Hayes gets on base. The first time just goes excuse me. Gotta take my first steps to the hall of fame. It made me think about like that's like that's like what I thought in my head like every time I opened my laptop and like twenty eleven I'm like. The go-to the hall of fame. And then Finally, I just really like during the Wild Thing when the owners like I hate this fucking song. Yeah. That was good. That's a good quote. What's your favorite of those? I mean, I think the the I guess there's one thing left to do when the whole fucking thing. I think that's just like icon a quote. Well, then I guess there's only one thing left to do. What's that? When the whole fucking thing. Just a bit outside has been the quo yet has been bastardized the most and actually don't like it now. Because the the announcers all think they're being funny when they say it ruined it for you hit everyone it for me. No one's euchre known secret to stop being Bob euchre. It's not happening. I really love hats for bats keep that worm funding. But my favorite is. Fuck you Joe, boo. I'd do it myself. She stopped. Stick up for you. Know help me now. I'd do it myself. By the way. I highly encourage anybody to use that as their high school yearbook quote. Yeah. Some teacher will love it. They'll be like, okay. I like that is that are they doing hey school year, but could their hand in the mid right now. Right to fuck you Joe, boo. I do it by south great. That'd be big win bet. It'd be impressed category. Could this be remade? As a ten episode. Netflix show. Yes. Please had a cow. This happen. Yeah. Can we do it? I would I would have hundred percent ticket. I would love it. So the news comes out the remaking major league. And it's now going to be a thirteen episode Netflix series. What's your reaction? I'm immediately like who is Charlie Sheen whose Wild Thing who's going to be Lou Brown. Who's the owner? I'm in just make it happen. Maybe don't pick. I wouldn't do Cleveland. This time though, I'd pick another city. I'd pick awards. I do like the Miami Marlins or something. Yeah. Although I guess they've won a couple World Series. What's like what? Seattle the Mariners. Yeah. Yeah. Are they like what's the worst? Will the Mariners have never won. Yeah. That's true. But they were on the teams left. Yeah. I'm in whoever decides these things go make major league that please do that probably unanswerable questions, we've covered everything except I have to. So they say door Roger Dorn stats in the last game that he to seventy one eighty six RBI. They also say in that game Willie Mays. Hayes was hitting two ninety one which I was shocked by. Yeah. Unanswered questions. How many steals did Willie Mays? Hayes have that season. I would say somewhere between sixty to seventy right. So so he didn't get it. What do you mean? What was his plan to get one hundred? I don't think you got a hundred. I think they would have said it. And again, I'm gonna say like seventy range, what was Sarah knows ks to home run ratio. Yeah. Thirty two homers and like two hundred twenty ks. Yeah, he like never hit a double. Now. You know, only diggers Eddie Harris wins say maybe like sixteen and ten type season for Eddie. They if they won ninety to somebody had to win games. And I think Charlie Sheen around the same probably like fifteen or eleven fifteen and ten I dunno. I dunno. I needed more stats in the final game. I really enjoyed the stats. I was like, wow. Roger Dorn has eighty six Rb ads. Wow. Shopped we covered this event closer music, and then my final answer will question because this movie came out the same year or a year earlier than our year later than bull Durham. Would bull Durham been better off if Charlie Sheen was nuclear Roche. Ooh. Yeah. Because I'm saying, yes. Yes. Sacrifice Charlie from this movie to make bolder and better, you think that there's a you can sub in someone for Charlie and still make major league work. I'm saying if he's in the nuclear show boulder and becomes the best movie of all time. Okay. Better than citizen Kane. The godfather everything I want both movies to continue to so you like both movies. Okay. But but what I will say is I think it's easier to substitute Charlie Sheen. Because like like you said earlier like the small amount of time that he's actually in the movie. Yeah. You can you can put someone it'd be like, you know, you got eight scenes. Maybe mealy west of as step saying, I don't know. He might be too. Sure. Yeah. I don't know. You're right. We we probably do lose with major league. I think about this some more between those brothers between Estevez sheen like icon, IQ sports siblings. 'cause you know, I love Mighty Ducks to more than anything. But we have this new Twitter feed for the rewatch Ables. Maybe we'll do a poll if you had to do it over again, would you have rather had Charlie Sheen in boulder, and then major league I'd be with responses are all right who won the movie. I say Snipes. Wow. Snipes? I mean, you've told me things that have just die ruined this movie for me like I'll never see it again. But I wrote down or all of the nonsense that that Snipes when the movie, but. You know, I'm I'm staying there. Okay. I'm not wavering. I can't believe I'm saying it, but I'm going with Charlie Sheen. That's on you. That's I just think I love Wild Thing. I love that character his PR this movie for the Mana time. He's actually in the movie per what his stats are is off the charts every scene he's in his lights out. I enjoy every single moment that he has in this movie. He's the most realistic baseball player. He's way up there in any conversation. He's with Coster and all these other guys. And and I think him walking in in the final game, and then striking out clue Haywood is one of the better sports movies ever. Yes. So I'm going with them. And also loved his quotes about James Gammon. And I want to know more about James game and insurance on the set and they eighty eight what exactly happened. I could read a whole oral history about the poker games that James came into this hotel room. What one my my one reason I love sheen is I think it's like an iconic fashion role. Yeah. Like between the glasses the earrings the haircut and most important for me the sleeveless tuxedo from the commercial. It's like it's pretty it's it's pretty iconic. So like for that. I do the French restaurant outfit is pretty great. He's everything is in. It's hard for me to believe that they were making this movie and just refusing to realize. Is that him and snipe should have been more sense as as they filmed the seventeen with Tom Barringer Rene Russo. Altered to another house. Cool. Cool. All right. So we cut the scene where where he's waiting outside her house at four in the morning in his car. All right. Remember bram? We did it man. We we first rewatch Ables together. This is wonderful. I'm pumped this was this was very this is very fun. And even though you. Pretty much ruined Wesley Snipes like more than tax evasion. Did for me. I'm I'm very happy to do that and happy anniversary to happy thirtieth anniversary. Thank you. So one of the classic side. Thanks for coming on. 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"Hello, everyone and welcome slash home. Daily for Tuesday, June eighteenth, two thousand nineteen on today's episode for tugboat what we've been up to at the water cooler, the slash home editor in chief. Peter Surata and Jamie out today's podcasts slash managing editor Jacob. Paul hello. Hello, weakened editor Brennaman eight it's me senior redder than Pearson. Hey, what's going on and writer, watcher and booby everyone. So Chris is not here. He's out on sinement. He will be missed, but I'm sure he'll come back next week and talk about all the things you've been seeing in doing, but let's let's dive in here and talk about what we've been doing. I I've been traveling and going to parks, basically I I've talked about that on an episode of the podcast last week. So I won't retread on any of that. But I have been spending a lot of time in Star Wars galaxies edge. I think I've gone seven times now. Because and just to justify that guys I didn't think I was going to get invited to press day. I didn't think my cast member friend was going to invite me too early cast member preview. So we booked a hotel for the opening day that would get us in. And then afterwards they announced that people could reserve times galaxies each for my friends, each reserved a time for them, plus five people. So I've just been just been, you know, going in on their passports to you a calc- far far away. But I've been enjoying that I've been producing a lot of video content from galaxy sideshow. If you if you wanna see what it is like, in Star Wars land head on over to my YouTube channel ordinary adventures. I just posted a thing yesterday, which I think is probably the, the thing, I'm proud of most those gone up on the YouTube channel. It's basically a compilation of all the ridiculously obscure things that you can buy and galaxy. He's edge. So this is like prop replicas that I never thought they would actually make like Brad, you're over, and you're the one that pointed out, the, the necklace from Phantom Menace. Yeah. The poor snippet that anikin gives to admin. Yeah. You can buy that. You can you can own that yourself, give it to your girlfriend, and ill. Give her good fortune. So watch the video and see all the ridiculous stuff. I link it in the show notes. The other thing I wanted to mention that I really done, much exciting by did get something I got, I think called the bed jet three and this is something I kicked started here ago and what it is basically in air conditioner for your for your bed, and it's thing that sits underneath your bed, and this two runs up, and then goes into the special sheets that they provide that is sits below your comforter, and the sheet has kind of like a whole that this, this thing goes into, and it basically blows cold air at whatever. Temperature you want at whatever you know speed you want into this sheet, so it almost like provides us like cloud experience like you're sleeping. Not only are you sleeping under your comforter? But, like there's, you know how like sometimes you get under your comforter in you like you get some air in there, and it feels like there's like, you know, a cloud of air inside there like feels like that all night long and it doesn't get as hot at night. It's ridiculously it's a ridiculous thing has a remote has an iphone app of we have the dual zone version of it, which basically means that the, the sheet has a partition in the middle, which means that kit. Tra- can put her side of the bed, any temperature and I put myself at any temperature and, and my dogs like jumping on top of the, the cloud of air. That is on the bed so out, I'm joy. I'm not sure if this is for sale anywhere yet I know that budget has traditionally sold online, but this was like their new model and I actually like it. I was expecting it to be like one of those stupid purchases that I was going to regret. But I really enjoy. I'm not sure how much it is you'd have to look it up. You're someone who likes feeling of being undercovers but likes to sleep while ice cold. The sound is amazing. And I want one. Yeah. No, I in it, and I should also say they, it doesn't have to be cold there. It can heat you till so during the cold months, you can actually have hot air down there. So I'm the person that like if I love leading with cover. So if it's too hot Ashley with covers I put on a fan to make sure that I can sleep with covers. Yeah. What one of my friends see when I lived in San Francisco, one of my roommates used to sleep in. He used to have a this is probably really dangerous, but he had a one of those hairdryers. And he would like sleep under the covers during the winter with the hairdryer warming up his feet and stuff like that. And I always make fire hazard. Yeah, I know. I know he didn't die. Surprisingly. But I tried it once, and it was actually quite comfortable. I, I would not rich, you know that fire hazard but this is a safe way of doing that. So this is not sponsored at all. I literally, you can go to my Kickstarter page and see that. I backed it. So that's the budget three. Jacob you've been up to some exciting stuff. I saw you got a tattoo. Yes. I went and got a tattoo, my first one after years of the anywhere, and then I should I pulled the trigger on it. And you know, this is, you know, as I've detailed both on my Twitter, Instagram, man on this podcast, actually I spent the past six months, making some big life changes. And I decided that no six months into changing my life. I wanted to commemorate that by do something permanent to remind me not to backtrack. So I got a tattoo, and the details of that had to we'll be discussed at a later point. It's a little more personal after going without geeky options. I decided to go, something that mattered to me on a level that is requires some explanation to really get into why chose this. So I won't get into here. I will post about it on Twitter at some point I'll post a full picture of it as well. It's still healing right now. That's actually I'll get tough with the process for those who've never had a tattoo. I went to a gentleman in Austin, his Instagram handle is at bearded, gentlemen. If you want to see his work, he is a big member of the OSCE, don't community. I did not know actually knew him until I arrived, the shop, because I've met him if it has a few times, but he's, he's at work for a lot of my friends, and so I now share tattoo artist with, like four friends for the Austin film circle. But I was someone who's never done it before. You know, I was impressed by, you know the, the entire process, but how like the Padilla's i-ipad and we live, discuss details, he's worked on Pat, as we, you know, worked on to design as he put it out on the paper, that applies to your body, as he took equipment, which he all hand built in customize himself type of ink and color options. We worked on. We decided the first placement didn't work. So we took off the central diversion, and reapplied it again stuff the process, I'd, I'd never thought about going into this. You know, I have in the mental image of how a tattoo shop operates I didn't think of all the nuance and all the many, you know, creams and lotions and oils used to make sure everything's clean as possible. And but how my guy had just really, really good bedside manner, and he had the he's what she wanted to have a good doctor. But in tattoo artists, you know, very upfront honest about the process, but, you know, but also very comforting at the same time and I wasn't there for about maybe two and a half three hours, but the actual tattoo itself is about ninety minutes. It's about five and a half inches long but two and a half inches at the widest on, on my. Lower among my left forearm on the underarm, and it looked great when it was done. I have some photos of that, and right now it's still healing. Because like Hitachi looks amazing for the first hour then it starts healing, and it looks really all over your days. Wait, wait. Are you even going to say what it is not yet, I'll talk? Okay. Yeah. I said you're going to explain it later. I just didn't know what you're going to see what it. Okay. Yeah. And so, so right now in the process of healing for the first couple of days, I wore this sort of medical seal on it at the us, he bought, but it's usually used for people who couldn't have surgeries and that just collected all the Google and plasma and blood. Constantly. And then once that dried, I the other remove it in our just keep it clean, keep it moisturised and from about three feet away. It looks great. When you get close can see the skin is still very you know cracked and peeling, and in about week or so it will be fully healed, then I will go on Twitter Instagram post pictures, and see what it is ask questions. Explain the origin of it outlined five reasons in great detail. I had to be met firsthand to, but yeah, it's it was really interesting process. And if you're in Austin likes to look up at bearded gentleman to see his work, and yet as someone who I think, has a pretty strong pain threshold. I found that the whole process to be not nearly as bad as I imagined even though it is painful like it hurts. But it also wasn't like excruciating, which, which I was surprised by so nothing out there and say get to thinking about it. You know. No, no that the best artists are the ones who spend time with you who are going to talk with you who are going to really take pride in care in the setup. So you'll dear research, look up people's work on the social media is where the best tattoo artists are posting other stuff and know that it's a much more positive experience in every way. I thought it was going to be very cool. I I've often thought about getting a tattoo. But my, my number one fear in life is, is needles. Like whenever there's a needle on a movie screen you'll if you're in the movie theater with me, you'll see me actually put my hand my hand in front of my eyes. I just can't can't watching the thought of a needle penetrating me like a jackhammer to, to draw tattoo on me is so frightening still look I looked away the entire time. I stared at the ceiling. We looked at what was done but yeah, so actually in a hurts, but it's also. It doesn't feel like the way a needle field when you go, like an injection or blood drawn. I've had a lot of my life. I know the difference, it, it definitely feels like sort of a burning sensation. But it's it did not feel. It was not the same sensation of having a needle full on puncture of AIn to collect blood or to inject you as anyone else here team habitat to you. I believe there's at least one other, and I want to hear them. Chime in on the pain issue for Peter the needle issue for Peter. I do I have tattoos actually I've one on my wrists in one behind my ear, and it does depend where you get it. My wrist was like a little bit of a sensitive area. So areas, I think that have are closer to the nerves tend to be little bit more painful, but behind my ear, I could feel anything it was almost more just a scratching sensation. So, yeah, the pain, I wouldn't describe it as being anything like a Neil really, it just kind of feels like I don't know how to describe it. I, I guess it's just it's I guess, like a burning sensation almost. Away, but it goes away, just as quickly. Yeah. Fulfilling a bad sunburn for the first couple of hours, and like I other than the skin being dry. A little stiff, I don't feel it at all at the days afterward. Yeah. Not worried about the healing process, and that that feel more worried about the getting it when I was a teenager. And I was working at best buy, I actually considered getting a tattoo of a bar code on my wrist of I was going to get the barcode for the DVD of back to the future, my favorite movie, and I thought that'd be cool that could go up to the registers in like, you know, skin in my, my arm for breakfast, future, which now wouldn't work because no one has DVD's. But I'm wondering Ben in Brad, have you ever considered getting tattoos? I have not I have no interest. But that's just me personally. So I'm I'm always a fan of seeing cool, art. You know, in, in any form, but I've just it's never spoken to me. I have thought about several tattoos and I would get, but I don't like the idea of constantly being stabbed by needle. I don't open to the have a fear of needles because, like I don't have a problem, seeing them on screen or anything like that. But I, I've had a couple of bad experiences of getting blood drawn where they had like they've been digging around in my arm to get it. And I know the tattoo processes and anything like that. But those experiences have made me leery of doing anything involving needles stabbing my skin. And so I had the sensation tested out on me, once by by tattoo artist and I just did not like it. And I couldn't imagine having that sensation for an hour or more based on the tattoos that I would want. So I should just not for me. So I just I'm just left to fantasize about the cool tattoos. I would get if I weren't such a coward. Yeah. The only thing I worry about is I've always been a person that would gain the way loose away and I'm worried about, like stretching of the of the art. Jacob I know you have lost a considerable amount of weight recently. Is that anything that you've worried about it's why I got it? Actually, one of the reasons why I thought I'd do is that my forearms, there are two parts my body that I feel reached early ideal point of physicality wise, and that is my thighs down are actually, like fat free, because he'd been looking around, because my shepherd lugging around so much weight my entire life. My legs took to weight lifting so well to my legs are like as muscular as possibly be which really weird thing to say and my forearms are an incredible shape, which is why I chose me first teddy for my forearm my upper arms, chestnut stomach still still have a ways to go. I'm working on those areas and I'm seeing a lot of a lot of weight loss in a lot of considerable muscle mass built up. But, you know, I am a long ways away from making those ideal, but this test fuel my forearm is, as an excuse for me to maintain the weight loss maintained the regime, and keep myself fit. Make sure it stays is want to look. So basically, what you're saying is next year, you're going to be getting a one foot large chest tattoo. All Peter, I have already talked over having my left arm. Be a sleeve of all the things I like done by the same artist. So that's the talks are happening literally, we discussing second touchy when the mill the first tattoo. It's, it's a very addictive thing. It is, as soon as you get your first tattoo, you kind of think about what you wanna get next. So I'm excited for you. Wanna really happy for you. Jacob we to itchy. What have you been up to this week? I went to Rockaway beach in queens. So this is my first time going to a beach in New York. And this is a very new experience for me because I've never lived in a place where the beach is so close, Rockaway beach is about fifteen miles away from my apartment. And I, I went with my roommates co workers, and they had a car so we drove there, and that was really breezy. Derive, I think by polish for oh, take a little bit longer, but it was still so insane to me that this beach was just in the same city as me. And it's a really nice beach to. It was I know it was hit pretty hard by hurricane sandy couple years ago. But so I wasn't expecting it be incredibly in rate shape. But. When I got there, it's a beautiful beach. It's really wide and clean, and there's lots of sand for a lot of a city beaches. I kind of anticipated they're being lot of rocks. But it was it was a nice really nice beach, and there's a really beautiful little boardwalk there to lots free food. So that was great. So it was a lot of fun. Even though the day we went was actually quite windy and almost little bit chilly. So we didn't stay that long. But it was a lot of fun. I'm excited to make return trips to Rockaway beach, especially 'cause it's been the same borough as me. Have you been the Coney Island yet I haven't that's one of the that's going to be one of my summer missions, my quests, I'm gonna try to explore more of New York in general? There last April I went to Coney Island, and it was freezing cold. Because it was just like it was just a cold as it was anyways, and then, you know, being next to the ocean. It's kind of weird. Like I feel like I am also less than ten miles away from the beach away from like Santa, Monica beach. And I feel like most people. I know that live in LA don't go to the beach Ben. Why is that? I think because it's such a pain in the ass, like traffic and everything. I mean. Yeah. Like mileage wise. It's not that far from us. But time wise. It's just such a, a hassle, you know, and then there's also the thing about, like there's so many people in a way that on nice days or weekends when the weather is really great or whatever. And you're like, all right. I'm going to the beach you get out there. And every beach, regardless of where you are seems like it's packed. And there's people who don't understand the concept of like headphones, existing who you know, they're, they're like, boom, boxes or whatever the modern equivalent of that is, and just like crank the freaking volume and it's like I just read a book or something. You know it's worse now. Because Becca the day of boombox with, like this huge contraption. And now it's just like the small bluetooth speaker. That's like the size of a cocaine. Yeah. And it's just God. I don't know that that's, that's like my number one deterrent is just like. I love the beach. I love the idea of going. But then the practicality always set in. So I really only go to the beach, like, I don't know twice a year or something like something really, really small, maybe even once a year. And it's just not. No beaches, though. I've always seen you going on, like these huge hikes to places that. Nobody else are at these calm, peaceful places. Yeah, that's great. And I will say, though, that a lot of times on a lot of those hikes people. Bring those same bluetooth speakers and just like gave I know they'd like attach them to their backpacks or something. And they're just like blast, and I'm like, we're out in the serenity of nature here for God's sake. What are you people doing? It's just like the selfishness, I can't get over it like the idea that, that anybody that you could possibly encounter would be okay with or would enjoy the music that you're bestowing on, like, Kimmy, a frigging, break, man, just where some headphones for God's sake. Like, why not? Where some headphones or some air pods with air project could give one to your significant other in one to you, and you can both enjoy the same song at the same time and not bother other people. The nobody has any consideration for other people. That's what it all boils down to. Okay. Pride what have you been up to since you've now been back home? So I'm getting ready as best I can for my girlfriend to move in with me. She's going to be moving over to the midwest to me from Utah, and so it kind of have to get a certain things at the house in order, so that we can move her stuff in here, shouldn't have a ton of things because she's been living with two of the roommates, but she's still, you know, has to move a pretty good chunk of stuff across the country. We've been discovering that moving things across the country is super expensive. Whether you want to try to do it through some kind of like a truck service like van lines or something like that, or even like some companies have these pods that you can get dropped off, and you pack them up and they ship them across the country to your house, all the options are very, very expensive. So, like I said, thankfully, she doesn't have tons of stuff that we have to worry about, you know, didn't have an overwhelming amount of furniture or anything like that. So it won't be too bad. But just the logistics of figuring out when to have the Padres off and get it packed up and how long it takes to get here. And then what about a road trip doing it yourself like that's all could be fun, even even that in excel is expensive. We looked into a truck rental where we would have we would loader stuff in a truck, and then tow her car behind us or even driving the car separately. And the cost to rent a truck like that and driving across the country costs almost as much as it does to get. A pot and then you have to deal with the inconvenience and somewhat challenging nature of driving a big moving truck across the country, twenty two hours so top of paying for gas for that as well. So if just any way you slice, it, it is an expensive endeavor. And it comes with some level of inconvenience. So that's why it seems like the pods. Route is probably the most efficient way to do it. And then we'll do we she and I can still drive her car car car across the country and kind of enjoy ourselves a little better so that we're not rushing to get the truck back up by a certain time. And we can kind of just enjoy the sights and maybe stop at a couple of places on on the way. Okay. Cool. What else have you been doing? And then a couple of friends of mine are in the midst of opening their own escape room in my town. I live in a fairly small town in Indiana. It's called the poor. It's about a half an hour, west of Notre Dame for anybody knows when under day, minute's, and there, there's not tons of stuff to do in my town usually have to drive thirty to forty five minutes somewhere else to do something of any real consequence, maybe twenty minutes in some cases. But so they're my friends are opening their own escape room where they're gonna have a few different rooms. Their plan is to open it sometime in August. And so they just recently announced it too. The public and I'm helping them out with getting all the various movie pieces. In order, we've we I've known that they were doing this for a while. And so I've been talking with about what they're gonna do in planning, the puzzles, unlike the story for them and that kind of thing, and so all that starting to come together, and they're in the construction part of right now because they have to knock down a couple of walls, and just kind of set the rooms up in general, and then we'll get into the all the puzzle building so that that's been pretty cool. Very cool. Do do they do you think they can sustain escape from not in a major city like that? Like, I feel like most of them are in, like major cities where like there's tourism, and, you know, you need to P business and stuff like that. The so even though I live in a small town. I live at town that has a few lakes in it. And so we get a lot of traffic of people that come through here to take on the lake and go fishing. And so there there's a tourist stops here. And then there's, there's even another like a town like that up. That's up in Michigan, which is about twenty minutes away. I'm here where they get a lot of people that come through there and they come down here. So there's definitely a desire for when we posted about it initially, he got a huge reaction from the community here, because they already pay attention to him and some of the other stuff that we do through our charity stuff. So there's, there's a lot of excitement for him people just want something new to do, and they don't wanna have to travel a distance Ford if they can get get away with it. So it's it seems like it's going to be proved free. Lucrative is any of it can be like movie inspired. Why believe one of them will will move inspired. Another one is supposed to be. I'm not only given detailed net 'cause they haven't announced that yet another one will be tied to something that is kind of famous in our area from from history. But the, the because of how much my friend and I love movies. He's the one who we do the podcast together. Go flicks yourself there will definitely be some movie inspired elements in the escape rooms will vary. Call keep us updated on this. Let's move on what we've been watching. Have been on this podcast in two weeks for the water cooler. So when Brad was over here for the Ghostbusters was a fan fester. Con champion infest. You were seeing a screen of Ghostbusters and mean kit. Tra- went to go see Godzilla king of Mont king of the monsters, despite Jacobs warnings. I, I don't know why. But I thought like you know, I like Mike Dougherty and I you know, I tend to be the person that likes I'm more of the populist opinion on this podcast. I like more popcorn movies, like all the trailers have been seeing for the Godzilla movie have have looked really good. Like why is Jacob? And these in these other people saying this movie is so bad. I'm going to give it a chance. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a shot myself. And so, I went saw it expecting to like it more than everybody else. And I can comfort Lee report that that was not the. Case this movie is not good. I it's incredible actors playing smart characters doing really stupid things in a convoluted plot only to service putting them at the exact center of action in over. Explain things surrounding the monsters that we didn't really need explaining, the big monster action looked beautiful. But. Too bad. There wasn't really more of it. I don't know. I was really disappointed with us. I was like in the theater, like looking at my watch waiting for to end and I really didn't expect the this comes from someone who I, I loved the Gareth Edwards gut. Delight loved SCO. You know, I'm I'm big fan of both those films. And I'm a big fan of the filmmaker here I was quite disappointed. But Brad, you also saw this film later on. And I think you have a different opinion. Yeah. I actually didn't think this was all that bad. I'm not in love with it by any means. I won't. I'm not. I'm not going to see its praises for everyone to run out and see it immediately. But I was pretty well entertains throughout. I will acknowledge that the movie is a little bit too long. And I think that the emotional beats between the characters don't seem to be very well earned and the plot is definitely convoluted and the character's make silly decisions, but I felt like it all just kind of worked with the, the, the ludicrous nature of the presentation of what was happening with all these titans on earth at the same time, I feel like with the gods Zillow movie even though Gareth Evans kind of grounded a little bit more. It was clear that this one is really shooting for the moon in going for something that I was a little bit more bombastic in crazy with the gods movie. And I was totally on board with that the cinema. Photography is gorgeous. I think the KYW's you fights are really cool. And even though I don't really care a lot about the human characters. It didn't keep me from just enjoying myself. They're like I said, there's, there's incredible shots in this movie like like showstopper shots, that just let some of them look like paintings. And I think that the bear McCreary score is also fantastic in this movie. But yeah, I definitely didn't didn't hate the movie by any means. And I, I was, I was fairly entertained and didn't find a lot to dislike about it. I don't know. I feel like I feel like the lesson here Brad is should listen to Jacob boroff. So yes, you should. I'm always right with Chris is not here. You default to me Jacob what have you been watching this week? I've been watching the new season of battle bots which recently returned on scotteri into science channel Arte battle bots in the past when I caught up with the new seasons and the new season is nothing. Short of incredible. Peter, it may be my favorite on TV now turn oval is over, what, what is different about this versus the previous season's new episodes are two hours long or ninety minutes yelling for commercials. And they did exactly what I wanted from season three which is also they put on YouTube, all like behind the scene stuff of all the makers building the robots and, you know, between scenes is now part of the episode so between the fights like you'll have a reporter back in the build room with the teams as they repair the robots. They test out new weapons as they prepare for the fights. And like there's a lot more come rotary between all the teams being filmed. There's a lot more information about how the robots work, and how they're built and it just really leans into the how nerdy. All is and wants to get is level wholesome the show is. I mean, the robot combat community is so small everybody knows each other, everybody's friends. So you wonder like losing fights. So they're still excited to be there and the fights themselves, are so much fun. The robots this season are so much bigger Wieder crazier stronger. And man, I just I was cheering I was laughing I was screaming, and there's so much inherent drama. Like there was a robot last season named duck who is a purely defensive bought whose entire purpose is a very simple. A weapon is built the take so much punishment at the other robot will break himself trying to break him. And it will, he'll, he'll win by the robot storing himself, and it became a super fan favourite, and he was disqualified for, for real bullshit reasons that people are really mad about and causing rewrite the entire rules of how they score the robot fights house. Grover duck was, and now ducks back. He gets redemption ark and it's like wrestling meets Formula one meets like the most. Uplifting reality show out there. Maybe grape rich baking show both robotics have cakes. It is so good. It is, is so incredibly good. But it's it sounds like unlike wrestling, there's no bad guys here. There's no like Billy Mitchell character the like I can love to hate. Not really. There's one guy who builds a robot named tombstone needs to building for twenty years, ever since the original ballot box in the nineties, and he plays up the heel persona. Like when he's on camera. He's really hamming it up and robot is really extremely scary and really hard to be in very rarely loses. In fact, a few times it loses as it tends to be when overplays his hand and he hits the wrong thing too hard in the choice himself. But, but in, in real life, he's apparently super nice guy. But on camera he plays up the villainous role. And like you said, if you like great bridge baking show, a show, where everybody is generally nice to each other. And like gives you hugs when they lose battle bots has a similar vibe, except with gladiatorial rope. Pots so the entire season path Amazon's fourteen bucks. So I have I sixteen episodes doing eight episodes than short break than eight more with it with a tournament of sixteen for the final championships. If this sounds remotely entertaining, and I hope it does. I think the fourteen ninety nine is not a steep investment for thirty two hours of really wholesome robot fighting from your enthusiasm of owning your description Jacob, I think we're only a couple years away from a battle bots movie from welfare. You know, I would take I take any kind of battle bots. The ruler of robot. Combat is so specific. And the phantom is so Nisha. But so dedicated that there was a movie to be made there for sure. I you believe that what else have you been watching, I felt back in the drunk history a show, I have watched off, and on for years, but never watched straight through, which I am now it's all on Hulu in the second half of the new seasons are arriving soon, and the show is great mean eve, you've probably seen episode or two. If you turn on comedy central and Derek waters, originally created this as a fund, you die web series and it became its own show, and basic gist, if you haven't heard of it is a person, usually L, A, based comedian gets extremely drunk and recounts, the story from history, you may think super nationally, very famous, and then celebrity celebrities guest starring reenact their story by lip synching to it by, by acting out what they're saying. And the comedy is just house. Drunk person is trying desperately to describe a struggle event while the actors played a straight as possible, and it shouldn't work as well as it does, it is so funny, somebody who reads a lot of history and always tend to do extra research after watching a story. I enjoy drek history, the way the show, actually genuinely tries to be stroke, accurate and get the basic facts. Right. Is really admirable and makes it, you know, educationalist own special way, intuition of being really funny court. It's not like you know going, if you all the details is going to be like, the perfect history show. But is like a like idiots guide to some basic historical events. I find it to be incredibly refreshing and very, very funny, and there are certain recurring guests like some people get really emotional, get drunk, get very you know, angry. Some get new star fallen asleep. And so he's story has has it's own vibe its own tone, and my favorite wondering where people are so drunk talking overwhelmed by their own story, and Trump like bursting into tears at, like. The very simplest concepts of their own struggle story. I think Brad's big fan drunk history, right. Oh, yeah. I love drunk history. It's very easy amazing, everybody else watching this, if you guys got to watch this, that's show. I watch a lot of clips on YouTube, and I really enjoy it. But I've never watched it all the way through. Oh man. It's so funny. I love it. So much, my wife and I, we, we let a bunch of episodes, build up on our DVR and then decide to just have one night where we have a bunch of drinks and wash it because that's one of the things about the show a lot of times, it'll show people like going way too far with their drinking. It's throwing up. And that's part of the humor of it as well. But a lot of it is just like man, it makes me want to have a drink. So we'll just like you know, let this buildup form and then have a couple of drinks, and, you know, dive in and start binging episodes, but I love the show because it's, it's really funny, but it also does. I mean Jacob you're right. It does actually teach you things like I learned from drug history that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson these presidents who hated each other for most of their lives died on the same day. And I had no idea about that. They never taught me that in my history books in elementary school, or high school or whatever. So. So, you know, drunk history of teachers and stuff, too, and I've only seen clips on YouTube, but now curious shakeup like what is an episode where you have a sleepy drunk like, how's that even handled like, do they fall asleep? And then we'll see what happens from what I understand, at the reading of how the show is shot. They tend to get somebody drunk and then filmed the story once and then they go back and get them even more drunk to the point of oblivion. And then film it again. So they always have backups so they always fall back and make sure that the Finnish version. But there have been multiple stories where a person starts nodding off mid-sentence the and the seem like turn to the camera and pause, because, like literally story has stopped and, and Derek waters, you hosts the show, what really like his contribution to show is that he gets drunk with them, which serves two purposes, one gives them really funny, chances for reaction shots. And to it means the person who's drunk isn't drunk alone. Stay have somebody who is, you know sharing the sharing it with them, as you know, as someone who is my fair share of drunk nights. When you get. Really drunk to oblivion, there's nothing more important to having a friendly face there with you to help you through. So when somebody like really gone overboard, like has in one case episode has fallen onto the floor and is demanding her, Domino's cheese bread. Because she wants out before she could finish a story, you Derek Lilley sit down the Ford next to help her up like talking to fishing the story is really adorable. And like all the end, everybody like who's drunk talk about how much they loved. Eric water is what a good friend, he is because he's there to help them through this edit and Derek waters is purpose as creator and so star of the show, is to help the drunks navigate their story and make them feel comfortable, and he doesn't really like subtly admirable job of keeping the show on his feet. I do wonder about his overall health though, because I know he's drinking for every show. This shows going on for several seasons. Now. Season seven right now before it was a what it was. It was a, a funnier die web series before that. So he's been getting drunk for a decade. What else have you been watching Jacob? Some high art, Peter some genuine, high art, nineteen Ninety-six is the substitute directed by Robert Mandell. Ben for some reason. I imagine you've seen to substitute Emma. Correct checkup. Of course. You're correct. Come on. We're talking about Tom Barringer movie. Yes movie, substitute is a nineteen ninety six b movie trash classic. We're Tom Barringer is the grizzled mercenary, whose team died in the most recent job, because back home to Miami where his teacher girlfriend is kneecapped by gang that operates out high school, so he goes undercover as a substitute teacher to find out who did it. And along the way kills a whole bunch of people, and getting lots of gunfights in high school. And at the same time teaches all the inner city kids self-respecting. History, and why they shouldn't be in gains. It is a collision of the nineties, trashy action movie and the nineties, inspirational white teacher teaches Hispanic kids, how to be good movie is deeply offensive. It is cheap as hell it is problematic by every possible. Standard. It has kindergarten cop made incredibly irresponsible. And man. It's fun. It is such a terrible offensive bad thing. I love the hell out of it. Tom Barringer should not be an action star, which is why he's great playing action star. The cast is bizarre. It's Ernie Hudson claimed a high school principal who is also the main Bagai who runs the gang a very young, Raymond Cruz and breaking and better, call Saul, frequently shirtless and frequently ripped as hell it is running around with machine guns, Louise mon- playing a commando looking still at Louis crews mound, like it still looks like yours motto is he does now except it's like ninety six commando gear Mark, Anthony, like super young, Mark Anthony running around is like the main henchman. Guys, the substitute Ben the substitute. You know, I saw this movie when I was a kid Jacob. So I don't remember all of the finer points of it. But I mean as you're talking about it is bringing back, some I wouldn't say fund memories, but some memories of the film, and, you know, this is I mean, it's sort of an interesting time capsule like you said, it's a it's a lot of ninety stuff rolled up into one, but it's also an interesting time capsule look at through the lens of Tom Barringer, who is a guy that, like, maybe our listeners, don't know even though he was like a huge movie star at one point like he had this incredible run from, like platoon in the mid eighties to maybe to this in the mid, nineties, where he was like the guy in a lot of these movies, and he has since fallen off in a pretty significant way. And he's had a few appearances here and there, he was in inception for a small role in that, for example. But yeah, it's just it's an interesting interesting time capsule to look back and remember like, oh, wow. There was a. Period there where where Tom Barringer was like the shit in Hollywood. And it's kind of where, like the one seen will be the rowdy class of minorities learned to shut up because disgruntled white guy says, you know, Vietnam was like a gang war, and they all say, oh, really says, yeah, here's why you shouldn't be in gangs. Because if you get nam and all the kids shop and mount their heads in silence in the next scene is simply on bulletproof, vests, and killing a bunch of people in the high school library, because he tried to ambush them there. It's that kind of movie streaming on Amazon, you must wash. Okay. So the substitute available on Amazon video. I okay let's talk about some movies. I saw last night. I went to my local AMC and had a double feature. Thanks to emcee A-List. I got to see rocket man. I got see men in black international. I'll talk about Rochman really quick. I, I had heard a lot of great things, but recommend. So I was looking forward to it only seen. I think that first trailer and I was excited. This and I it's pretty good. I think the genius of this movie, and this is something I actually didn't really know going into because I don't think that first chiller kind of cells at the as this is that it is a musical rather than just being a traditional music by OPEC. I feel like that for shriller tries to sell on. It's fantastic. Wholeness. And I, I love the musical aspect of this Taron Egerton did a fine job as Elton I will say, I was a little disappointed by some of the musical execution and arrangements. Like, I don't know. It's kind of cringing during tiny dancer and stuff like that. It just doesn't sound. He doesn't sound as good as Elton. I mean who does. But I also loved Bryce Dallas Howard. She plays Elton's mom in this movie. Just a great small character role. I, I wish this movie had even more fantastical moments. But I, I would recommend this. I did enjoy. Quite a bit. As I said, minute, black international. I think I'm the only person on staff who has seen it except for the person who reviewed it. Who is at Josh? Yeah. Josh beagle wrote are incredibly middling review of Peter. Yeah, I had heard a lot of bad things about this movie. I since the first row arrows like dreading sings foam because they actually liked the first three movies and it just didn't look good. I will say that men in black international isn't nearly as bad as of expecting it to be. But that's not that's not to say it was good at all. I enjoyed the fun of this world like, you know, the quirky aliens, the, the technology how like you know how everything works world building. The story on the other hand is a mess. It's there's one point in the movie near the end where one of the character scream something like you've gotta be shitting me. I think, and I think everybody in the theater was, like thinking the same thing as the character in the movie. Said that allowed the screenplay is just such a mess. I really don't like EFC, Gary gray. He's not a good action. Filmmaker the action is film so flat. And sometimes just badly shot and I know he did fell one of the worst fast and furious installments in recent years as well. So I, I, I love Tessa Thompson. I love Chris Hemsworth, and at times, this film feels like the script was relying on them to do some heavy lifting with the impromptu, improv like comedy moments like almost as if like the script is like, in what the actors improv something funny here. And I'm not sure it's that they don't have the chops or not. Because I, I mean we've seen Chris Hemsworth, improv in Ghostbusters and he's good at it. I'm not sure if we've seen tested delay yet, but whatever reason if it's the direction if it's the how. Movie was made. I mean, we have a whole article on the side, I think about how the this movie kind of fell apart some that sure what happened, but those moments just feel like they don't work and they can't be saved. The charisma of both these two incredible stars can't save these moments and, and it's not enough to save the film. But I will say that this is not a horrible movie. It's just a middling movie. So with that said, Jack up are you still? Or are you going to see this? Oh, goodness. I think the first men in black is one of my favorite like pledge for pleasurable movies. I have seen it. Maybe one hundred times I was young enough. It came out for be childhood. Classic for me and various autumn filled brings so much personality in whit to the first minute black, and it's ninety eight minutes, long and flies everything. But the first minute black is pitch perfect for what it is the second one that gets a bad movie there, whether he's a pretty good movie. But f Gary gray as you said, this doesn't have that doesn't have the visual wit of various on-field, or the knack for the dry world. Billy that makes it I wanna so special. Got a bad director. I don't think he's the right fit for this kind of filmmaking, and who knows. Maybe I'll, I'll find a weekend where nothing to do. I'll go see it. But in fact, I'm skipping of black. We'll be starting those two right now is really disappointing because I'm prepared to go back to this world. Is think that need to find the right director do helmet and clearly based on the behind the scene stories, everyone Sony didn't have to act together here. Is it too early? I know we're only mid June or in elva, is it too early to call the summer a kind of a disappointment so far. It's definitely a bummer. I mean, we're being rescued this week by movie. That Ben Affleck bona second Toy Story, four is incredible, but. And games. Really, really good toy fourth grade. But goodness, I'm having John wick three, of course was, but it's like between them on Iraqi my brain, and I feel like book smart likes those also a box office bomb. So I'm just I'm I think you're right in terms of both like critical reception and breakout movies. I'm this, this is definitely one of the weakest summer isn't a longtime. Okay. Ben tell us about the movie that might be saving the midsummer Toy Story for it. Yeah. It's a huge shocked me because, you know, as everybody knows the third movie in so beautifully, and I re washed, I talked last week on the water cooler about how is rewatching all of them leading up to the, you know, my screening of the the fourth one, and I think I had watched the first two at that point, we watched the third one for the first time since the I think, and I was just bawling by the end of it. And it's so powerful in so emotionally resonant and so. So I went, you know, re revisiting the franchise sort of made me even more wary of the, this new sequel going into it, and it still won me over in a huge way. This is really, really great. I was totally shocked and taken aback by how it does not feel like a cash grab or, you know, just a cheap excuse to bring these characters back to sell more merchandise or anything like that. So many movies this summer feel like they were just, you know, haphazardly green lit by a few people in a room because the IT is recognizable and Toy Story, four is not that it is definitely a story that has a movie that has a specific story to tell it is inservice of character arcs it is in service of. Returning to this world and expanding it in in ways that I didn't realize that I didn't realize where necessary. But, but now in retrospect, feel totally necessary. And I think that's maybe the highest compliment I can pay for something that I thought was totally. Unearned or, or just, you know, we didn't need it for me to walk out of that movie feeling like this is, you know, I thought I had closure in the third movie but this is the the closure that I was actually craving for these characters. It's wonderful. I mean, the four key, even if you think that, that character doesn't really work that well in the marketing it works. He works so beautifully in the context of the movie. I mean I really can't say enough nice things about it. I, I was shocked to see how much I loved it. So Peter, if you had a chance to see this yet, I'm seeing it tonight. So okay, I'll report back next week cool. And then yeah. Just to other things that I watched I started the Handmaid's tale season three I know h c talked about that early on a previous episode of the show. I am only two episodes into the season and I really still think that this is like one of the most gorgeous shot shows on TV some of the plot stuff, so far, as has given me a little bit of pause. I really really loved the first two seasons. And I think the general reaction to season two was pretty mixed, but I fell on the I really enjoyed this side of that. So I was very much looking forward to the third season, and I think some of the some of it may be starting to sort of come apart at the seems a little bit. But, you know, I'm still so early in the season that I can't fully say, but still. The look in the performances and our and everything are just as good as they've always been so excited to see and continue on with that. And see how that goes. And then Finally, I watched the entirety of tra- noble which. Man. Wow. That is that is a hell of a show. I know that, you know, Jacob and Kristen you guys have talked about it on previous episodes. And I, I really don't think I can add much to the conversation beyond what you guys said. But I just encourage everybody to watch it. It's five episodes. Jared, Harris gives a tremendous performance. It's shockingly relevant for something that's supposed to be, you know that took place in the late nineteen eighties. The, the idea of the bureaucracy in, like the pushing the buck and passing the blame. And, and, you know, all of the, the semantics of the show are still very, very much at the center of our daily lives, even as Americans not even as, as Russians. But it's a, it's a really, really exceptional piece of television. So I can't recommend that highly enough, but on a scale of happy to wind Kroll on a grave die. How episode for make you feel well the thing about that is because you guys hiked it up so so much beforehand. I fit my. My wife and I sort of figured out, what was coming before it actually happened. And I think that ease the pain for me a little bit. I think if I was just watching it blind and didn't know that that was going to happen. And it sort of came out of nowhere. I think it would have gotten me a little bit more. But I think I was I was steeled to it just a little bit by knowing or being able to sort of peace piece together. But yeah, I mean it's still pretty freaking brutal. Okay. Let's move onto HT. You've been watching a lot of stuff this week. In addition to going to the beach, you've had time to watch what like half dozen things. Yeah. Well, this is for last week's pop culture imports column. So if you want to check out some of the things I've been watching check that out on slash film dot com. But I, I get into that. I kind of want to go back to what Peter was saying before about this summer being kind of a disappointment. And I. In a with that I have seen shaft, which kind of joins that democ a'middling movies. This is the third film of the same name. That shares the same name shaft of the original nineteen eighty nine hundred seventy hold on a second. Be seven nineteen seventy-one shaft but is the fifth film in the shafts franchise and this film kind of it shaves off. Everything that made the original shafts, which was at the forefront of the blaxploitation movement, and shades off. Everything that may rich and compelling and turns it into a generic action movie which was very disappointing to see. But there are some good points with this film, especially with Samuel L Jackson, who kinda turns out, his typical Samuel Jackson acting as Samuel Jackson with tip with a straight man of the movie, and while that's really amusing, and fun. It doesn't quite carry the movie through, like it has with previous films like Hickman's, bodyguard, and captain marvel so his charisma is really enjoyable and fun here. But it's also bogged down by a lot of jokes about how millennials are the worst. And this might be because I was especially targeted in this film, but it felt like very much like an a grumpy old man kind of pining for the better days of when masculinity was all about that. You know that. Shooting first and asking questions later. So it's a it was a really lazy film, to me and more. So even more. So in how shot it looks very much like a procedural crime drama versus just what we've seen in the previous. Shaft homes were there, just about New York, and they have that rich and that texture of New York, and here just looks very lazy. The stories really lazy Samuel Jackson's charisma is always great, but can only do so much. But somehow, this movie got like an A on cinema score. Yeah. I'd say, why are. Is that has that a star personality, still and able to get people to enjoy that part of the movie? Okay. What else have you been watching? I have also been watching. I've seen affiliate which is the sort of revisionist film, starring daisy, Ridley from it's the retelling of hamlet from the perspective of affiliate his doomed lover and this is a film directed by Claire McCarthy. It's the all female through take on hamlet and it's much more. Revisionist than I anticipated actually has quite a few changes to the original hamlet story than I thought it would be, and it's really beautiful film. It takes a lot of visual inspiration from the painting, a affiliate painting by John Everett Malays you may recognize it. It's that one of her committing suicide and lying in the pond. Whilst rounded by all these font on flora, and it definitely has that sort of painter elite illustrative quality. To it. But I think in trying to emanate that it kind of has that similar stiffness and a creaky nece that a painting would have is a little bit. Dull little boring. Daisy. Really? I don't know if she's well-suited towards a period, film. She so fun and energetic in the Star Wars films. And she's a little bit. Just she has kind of wide-eyed, placid, NIST going on with her here. That is suits the Shakespeare play I guess, but kind of flies in the face of the strong headed depiction of affiliate that they're trying to go for. So I would say this film is beautiful, but it's a little bit of a mixed bag performance and story. Wise that sounds like a skip for me. Watching. I have also watched the film called everybody knows this is a Spanish language film that reunites heavier Bardem Penelope Cruz. It's about these this family. That goes back for a wedding in. Argentina. I'm I think the and they and at this wedding, Penelope Cruz daughter gets kidnapped, and it kind of becomes the psychological thriller, but it is more of a domestic drama. It kind of with the kidnapping it starts to unravel all these different domestic secrets, and a long held passions, teen all of the characters and it superbly acted a little bit of slow burners. So have you ever diamond Penelope Cruz are rate in the story in the film? But I don't know if I would recommend everyone, it is on Netflix, but it's a it's intriguing film. That's kind of yet domestic drama writ, as a solit-, psychological thriller, cool. Everybody knows what else have you been wasn't every knows. I've also watched a film called all is well, this is a German sexual. Assaults film, and it is about a woman who is sexually assaulted by her bosses brother-in-law and try desperately to move past that, and in a sense she kind of becomes further weighed down by the emotional trauma, and the toil of this experience. And while it is, re very centered around this, sexual assault, it is interesting in that is more of a character driven that it is anchored, really by this performance by AM Schwartz who plays that central men and she's incredible in this. She is really settled performance. That is very disquieting and yet incredibly sympathetic, and while it is a little bit tough to watch. I would recommend seeing this just a four her laments and four this more subtle. Approach to that sexual assault story that we have kind of seen. And while it might be tough to go into is a very incredible. And kind of an hit a hidden gem that is also streaming on Netflix, and another one on net Netflix that I watched is a very different film. It's called punch mama. And this is an animated film that is really lovely and it's only seventy one minutes long. It's a little bit over an hour. It's a love letter to South American culture. It's telling telling the story of a young boy in fifteen thirties, Andy's who finds his village suddenly invaded by western invaders, and in the middle of that he's trying to recover this token of the, the harvest got that his village worships, and it's this really interesting depiction of this rich culture but is done through the, the perspective. This little boy, and while it's a family film, it has does touch on some darker themes, the western colonization being one of them, but it's really beautifully animated almost looks like a mosaic and a lot of senses. And again, it's incredible short. Watch. I recommend it. If you like films like song of the sea mwana, it's really wonderful little tiny film, that you can check out and watch just like that. And another animated thing that I've been watching is a accurate suit go. I don't know if I have talked about go on this podcast before. So this is an animated series that just came out with a second season on Netflix. And I absolutely adore this series. It's an anime series from San Rio, which is the company behind. Hello kitty. And agate Seco is another one of its products and wild that kind of seems like something that you would bulk it having a a series. His tendered around something that's basically made to be merchandise is actually a very relatable and emotionally potent series. So it follows this red panda named Esco, who is this mild mannered, and sweet office worker. And she goes through her days, just kind of going from work to home, and dealing with all these microaggressions and sexism at work, and she has all of these things pile up. She lets out all her frustrations, in the form of heavy metal, and so she will she will go to karaoke every day and her face will transform into this mask of rage, and she'll just like let all her frustrations and scream like in these heavy metal sequences and death melt sequences, which are Larry is because she looks so sweet tempered, and really cute, I'll aside of that. But when she goes into the character room and goes into these heavy metal sequences it just become. Like incredibly scary and hilarious looking it again deals with microaggressions at work. She has said she does with the boss, that's literally depicted, as a pig who piles up with all sorts of work, and she deals with a worker in the second season who is incredible recognizable. So the point of being triggering for me, it was, it was hard because I have worked with someone just like this before, who took every minor slight against him as a personal attack and end up writing a complaint or a letter to a to their higher ups and to her, like demanding apologies and it's it's a little stressful to watch. Sometimes it cuts almost two relatable at points, but it's really fascinating. It's a and it's just such a fun. Little watch. Every episode is only fifteen minutes long. This is one. I really recommend if you are in your twenties, and dealing with office life in want to see something that's depicted in this really cute relief. Haskell way. I've, I've heard compared to office space, which I think, is a really act comparison but much cuter and has that heavy metal bent to it. So I highly recommend this streaming on Netflix. Now. He's in one and two. Don't see somebody wearing a t shirt with this character on, I think the has really big sleeper following at this point. So check it out. It's label there's a ones. There's one scene in the most recent season where I read suco ponders, what her goals are in life. And she says, I wonder if it's okay to lift like this without any goals or without any dreams in life. And that kind of hit me a little hard. I remember. I know a lot of friends who are wondering what their anticipation, so worth their goals are in life and Embiid are, and it definitely speaks to that twenty-something just aimlessness and the, the dull monotony of office culture. So I highly recommend it. It's really cute again credibly short watch and just very funny. This is streaming on Netflix. Betsy go cool and the last thing I've watched is the first episode of dark, I missed the boat on this when it came out in two thousand seventeen this is the German scifi drama series. That was a little bit of a phenomenon when it came out, and I have known I know that it was compared a lot to the German like stranger things, and it has a lot of similarities. There's kids on bikes. There's a mysterious disappearance of kids in the small town. And instead of an alternate reality, there is time travel, which is very fascinating of only finished the pilot, but I will say that, while it has a lot of surface level similarities to stranger things. It is much darker. Very suitably and has a lot of very disturbing. Ellum. I guess you would say on something that's a little bit more intricate. I think than just what you see with the upside down in stranger things. So this is something that I wanted to catch up with because the second season is coming to Netflix soon. But if you like stranger things, and I guess, even if you like I think there's some similarities twin peaks here too. If you like that I would recommend dark. Cool. That's also on that flicks on flicks. Brad, what have you been watching this week? I haven't been watching a lot. But I did rent, the house was a clock in its walls recently, this is something that I wanted to see in theaters last year. And then I just kind of just delete dallied in missed it. And so I realized that it was actually I don't whom video. So I saw rented it and I actually enjoyed it. It's directed by LA, Roth who is not known for doing a family friendly fare. But this is this is really the kind of. Spooky kids movie that they don't really make four kids anymore. It felt like a real throwback to movies of the eighties and nineties were there genuinely scary elements in movies that kind of help kids come into their own and deal with, with fears, and, you know, maybe give them even some nightmares, just kind of you know, help them grow up a little bit. And that's probably why Amblin also produced it because it really does feel like a throwback Amblin movie. It's, it's not perfect. And there's a has a little bit of a stilted flow to it every every now and then where it seems like the the pacing is a little bit off. But I like the story. I like the the characters in it. I, I like the, the kind of world that it sets up Jack Jack black and Kate Blanchett fantastic in it Kyle McLachlan's in it. The main kid in the movie is really good. And it's yeah, I, I found myself, enjoying and wishing that studios would make more movies like this, because it's the kind of movie that I would have. I loved watching when I was a kid the house with a clock in its walls. So where can people watch that? It's a maleable everywhere. Blu. Ray DVD, digital anywhere. You want to get it. And even watching some TV. A friend of mine recently recommended this show called letter Kenny, which is this a Canadian comedy series? It's been on for seven seasons now in Canada. But it was apparently just recently picked up by Hulu as a Hulu original and the seventh season is now owned by Hulu and it debuted on there, and I a friend of mine just told me that it was really funny actually just give it a shot and check it out. And so I, I watched the first episode, and then I guess sucked in watch the next few episodes. I've only seen the first season so far. Each of the seasons are only about six or seven episodes. So, and all the episodes are only half an hour long if not slightly less. So it's really easy to breeze through, and it's basically the best way to describe it is. It's like clerks meets Napoleon dynamite, with, like the edge of it's always sunny in Philadelphia. And it set in this really sh. Shitty rural farm town called Letterkenny the characters are this guy, Wayne, who is kind of very straightforward, hick who is speaks, very matter of factly, and very quickly, his friend, Dwayne who is a little bit more laid back. And then wanes sister. Who who has a into these two hockey players? And then there's this group of like Goth, meth heads who are also is around. And if just this very Corky on assembly of these small town characters. It's not I don't want to say that it's, it's consistently laugh out loud funny all the time because there are some kind of silly immature premises. But there, there are some really great writing in here like there are some fantastic one liners that remind me of old school, Kevin Smith. And it's if it's a raunchy show too, because apparently in Canada, I guess, on their comedy network, which is their version of comedy central they're allowed to be a little bit more vulgar. So there's lots of f- bonds and, and you know, vulgar, sex jokes and stuff like that. But it's there are so many lines from this first season that are just hilarious. And they come really quickly. To. But again, it's I will say that one people if they choose to try and give it a shot, then it's not. It's not a show where everything in it is funny. There's some times where you'll watch an episode and maybe a few minutes ago by niche like, that's, that's not really working for me. But then it comes back with some really great stuff. So, yeah. It's if you are interested in some Canadian comedy. Checkout letter Kenny, it's on Hulu. If you convince me, if Brad because this was the play the entire first season, I think at tastic festival years ago, they was before it was no United States they booked like, like three hours worth of episodes, and his played them all in a film slot. And the programmers were raving about it, and I skipped the I thought I have no time to watch heart season, the TV at a film festival, but ever since then and the programmers are still talk about Letterkenny and how much you like it years later. So I think it's supposed to be over. I need to watch the show. Yeah. I think it's really given a shot. Okay. Let's move on to what we've been eating. Let's start off with Jakup. What have you discovered this week? Oh man. I've reached the I think some kind of health food, pinnacle because I'm eating kale chips. Peter. But I point in every diet, where the Dieter discovered discovers the wonders of kale Jayco, and I've tried like eating fresh kale, and I couldn't stand it. It's way too bitter for me in terms of salary prefer romaine, but rhythm superfoods. It's an Austin based company, although their stuff is available online on Amazon, and they make other products as well, but art as Kito friendly, but they're killed ships are six net carbs for an entire bag. So it's, you know, that's a couple of snacks. All set away and even have various flavors like a Habanero, one in a ranch one and they haven't really satisfying crunch there. It, it, it really has a lead nice, you know, subtle flavor to both in terms of the kale and seasoning. So if you want a low carb zero sugar snack, that's healthy for you has nothing really bad going on inside of it rhythm superfoods. Kale chips are quite good. And they get my endorsement, I'm going to have to look this up as village on Amazon. I assume yeah I'm not sure what the price darn Amazon. I mean I found them in a local Austin target. So maybe LA has been grocery stores. So they, but they are available online, for sure. I don't know you know what the price or packaging situation would be, you know, outside of a grocery store. Okay. Brad. What kind of interesting food, have you been eating this week? Yeah, forget, K L let's get to the junky stuff, by the way, did you get your stranger things new coke in the mail yet? I did. But I have not tried it. Yes, it did. It did come with two cans of new coke. So I will be trying. I'll probably do that for the next episode. But I just haven't taken the time to crack open a can and try it yet. Did you try yours? I have not tried mine. But I did notice on the nutrition label the, the amount of sugar. That's in new coq compared to like old coke is a double. Well, you should be delicious. So, yeah, I found a couple of new cereals. Oh, a little while back pop tarts released their first to new cereals since they had one a long time ago. There was discontinued, and it's released a new flavor of pop tart Syria. It's cookies and cream and like the other two, it is a, a serial that the, the pieces are made to kind of look like pop tarts, and then the inside is has a filling in it. It's kind of similar to the, the crave cereals, or the recent Philo cereals, and I talked about on an episode not too long ago, and this one's a little bit different because the, the outside of it has kind of has the like a frosted flakes coating on it. So it's a frosted cookies and cream popped are basically, and it tastes surprisingly different than the Hershey cookies and cream Philo cereal, I expected it to be about the same, but the frosting on the outside does make it taste a little bit sweeter, and the feeling inside isn't quite overwhelming. So, but I, I did. Still in enjoy it isn't I don't think it's quite as good as the strawberry pop tart stereo but it's still pretty good. And then everyone remembers corn. Pops corn pops now has a chocolate peanut butter version. I'm not sure if this is limited edition, or it's like if it's a new thing that they're doing. But it's basically the taste isn't too different from reese's peanut butter puff surreal, except if you've had corn pops before, you know, that the serial self is kind of sticky and because it stickier the crunch is a little bit chewier than normal cereals. So compared to reese's peanut butter puffs, the cereal has that same kind of consistency where it's slightly chewy crunchier at the same time, then reese's peanut butter, puffs, personally, I think I like reasons peanut butter house better that that's on my favorite cereal in general, even the, the taste is roughly the same, but it's the I guess the consistency like, or the feel when you're chewing it that the it's it's a little bit weird because. Is it, it's almost a little bit more of I don't want to say a struggle, but it's just it's chewier when you're when you're eating it. And then there is there's yet another new mountain. Dew mountain dew is like turning out flavors, the same page that Oriole turns out new flavor. And this one is exclusive to Kentucky Fried Chicken locations or KFC, and it's called sweet lightning mountain dew, which is basically a peach flavor with a little bit of sweet Honey tossed into it. And it's definitely probably the sweetest mountain dew they've made you can really taste the Honey in it. But it makes us pretty well with the peach, it's almost kind of like a like a peach tea soda, I would I would say so you, can, you can only get that right now at KFC it's not in a bottle or anything you have to get it as a fountain drink at the actual KFC restaurants. And then Peter a while back in our slack. You asked me, specifically to make sure that I found the is to try them as you, you can't. And so I found the freeze pop flavored skittles. This is a new summer limited edition flavor that they put out that you can only get at Dollar General stores and Peter, your honestly, not missing much here. They the flavors that come in. Ouch are blue raspberry orange grape lemon and strawberry. But they honestly don't taste like freeze pop flavors. They basically just taste like those skills flavors and they're just put into this pouch. So I don't know what it is. That makes them think that they're freeze pop flavored. But I literally tasted nothing about them that remind me of eating, a free stop. What a rip off. Okay. Let's move to what we've been playing, I'll be very brief here because I know we're running late on this podcast. I finally beat super hot. This is the game of playing for Oculus quest VR headset, and I think Brad talked about last week on the podcast. And one of the problems with this game is like, once you start playing. You can only play at the level that you're at. So when I had Brad play he was at, like one of the last levels of the game, which was super hard and I, I don't think he got far with it. Now that you beat the game. You get access to all the levels. So you get like a menu that lets you select any of the levels within the game. And I just wish that was available from the start because it would have been fun to show. Brad like one of the first levels which you know introduces some of the concepts that game but I really recommend is a short game but I really recommend. It really makes you feel bad ass like you're in the matrix. It's called super hot. I know a bunch of my friends have played it not in VR. And I don't even understand how you would play like what this game would be like non VR because it seems like the VR aspect of this. It's just so much of what I enjoy about this game. And also beat Taber I'm still playing that it a did release. I know Brad, you're saying that you were worried that there's not many tracks for it. I think there's a few different albums that they've released thus far available. So there's like I think like thirty or so songs right now, but they just released imagine dragons pack that I think it was like twelve bucks or something, I, Don, I paid for that, not that I'm a huge imagine dragons fan. But now, now I have even more songs to beat sabre to, and I've tried that, and I'm not good at it, but I'm getting better. I actually found out to you because I was curious about this, because they're not since I had seen videos of people playing their songs. There is a way that you can download and install custom songs for beat sabre to play. And they, they usually update the method by which they do it whenever there's a new software update. Or something like that. But it looks like it's pretty easy to do. So if I ever get an Oculus quest. I'm definitely going to download custom songs on their see. I'm so nervous vote like those kind of like side hack things I don't want to wreck of such a. I just, I just don't know what to do with the technology if I if I were to break it. So I'm just like staying away from that, but I'm enjoying it. I've not, you know, I'm still on the normal level, when Brad came over here, he came over and was like beating stuff on hard and getting like as and Bs. So I'm I'm still not at the the level of rhythm of Brad. So, so, yeah, I've been doing that. Jacob. What have you been playing this week? Just a few weeks ago. I am running a Star Wars RPT campaign, and we had our latest session, and at also discussed a few weeks ago, I play sandbox style game where we don't follow Britain guide players are very much free to make the story as ago, would I react to that? So my character is at the end of the last session. Everybody learned a valuable heist opportunity that I would for the rebel characters fund the rebel alliance in for the criminal characters fill their pockets. So they'll agree with the team up to take down this corrupt local governors security, nor to enter his high rise tower, an empty his vault. And they had a bunch of opportunity to do this in various ways together to get resources and the team members cannot agree so that they decided to split the party with three members of the group going to infiltrate a mill in a imperial base, if you know three going undercover at a high class nightclub and for the nightclub crew things went great. They rolled great to guys like what they needed. They found. The guy they wanted to they negotiated they've talked they all the money needed a thumb bombs found resources to get connections. They like they ended the session ready to do their section of the heist, whereas the other players are still trapped in a deep. Underground imperial installation, further split in the two more groups with of ally. Dead strana by troopers no easy way out. And I literally did not know gonna do accession because one grew half the team is above ground and ready to go then are half is about as screwed as you could possibly be an adventure scenario. So my goal is gay master is to find a way to make these two story threat is come together in a way satisfies both teams. So I'll keep you updated it but thinking weird wild this game. And I really appreciate the fancy flight Star Wars systems dice which allow for a lot of good storytelling opportunities because you can succeed in the task, but have negative outcome. Come or fail on task have have a positive outcome. Like, for example, you knock a guard out which which trying to do, but she'll other guards by having a negative outcome. So it leads some very cinematic situations where people are trapped in very bad places, and that's where the game is right now. And I'm having a great time with it. It seems like you're creating your own Empire Strikes Back from the from the situation you putting yourself in here. Yeah. Everyone's a whole lot. Stupider. Okay. That brings us to the end of today slash on daily. You can find more of all our work. It's Mecom you can find this podcast published every weekday on itunes, Google overcast, Spotify all the popular podcast app. Please feel free to send us your feedback questions comes concerns to us a Peter dot com and please rate and read this podcast, and I tunes, tell your friends spread the word and we'll see you tomorrow. Now I know I, I know Ben was was not prepared. But I'm prepared Jacob. I know coming. I know you're coming. Yeah. Hey, peter. Yes, peter. Note, I have I do know what you have. I have learned after a year of doing this. But you have the big book of insults. What's it called? Good. Honoring fronts. Three. Yeah. Insult and a front or by Lewis. I say peon fight. Peter has not learned title. The book have a lot. We along way to go a. I know the title, you'll get a special insult today from the book of insult offense in front by Lewis a safety, and I opened up g entertainers page and Peter your performance underwhelmed of the audience. That's it. I don't even understand your four forfeits underwhelmed, the audience. I well I don't understand the first time the first seven and get a second time. You said it, I still didn't get it. Your performance underwhelms yacht. This is just you watching Peter and saying, hey, that really sucks. Ben the only reason you are to his that is that the audience couldn't yawn and hiss at the same time. Okay. Well, that one at least makes sense. Sure. Brad, he claims singing worms of blood, but his makes our blood boil. Oh boy. HD. Here's your very special insult. You're such a ventriloquist your dummy is quitting the find a new partner. So special. But meanwhile Peter, not that, that much of a dummy, then. Yeah, Peter, your performance, underwhelmed, the audience. That doesn't even make any sense. Jacob.

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Hour 1: 2019 Suey Awards - Best Laugh

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

35:55 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: 2019 Suey Awards - Best Laugh

"The dan lebatardshow podcast is presented by the capital one venture car when you are an unlimited double miles on every purchase. Your next trip is closer than you think capital one. What's in your wallet. This is is the dan lebatardshow with this got spot casts a so. I know many of you are retired as the media has gorged on all andrew lock things and you've heard people repeat different voices saying the same things all over the place. I use about andrew luck. Luck gave us a little something in august he really did he fed us and he fatten does the buffet trough of content. <hes> and billy has been really knocked out of the the show all week because he <hes> he's emotional grieving. He spent way too much time listening to andrew luck sound over the weekend it made him sad <hes> but ah billy says and this is the last of it i think i think this is the last remnants of andrew luck that we can handle this week <hes> but billy says there's some lost sound learned from the andrew luck retirement presser. How did some lost sound escape our attention. What did we miss well. Here's the thing it was a shocking retirement. I think we can all agree on and then of course we went to the next move. Which was was this selfish. Was this selfless did he retire in his prime. Was he past his prime. The classic sports the days of the andrew luck talk. We don't have that on a wednesday here. It's not fresh anymore so we hit all those notes. However will he be back won't he. Be bad things can be traded for tom. Brady end up in indy who knows the luck resurfaced in the x._f._l. Hombre de witt josh mcdaniels about that up. These are all the notes that everybody played however dan lost in the shuffle foale were to signature andrew luck nuggets that he left us with he was a champion not on the field not a super bowl champion ambient champion of useless sound for years and years on this show and he gave us to classic andrew luck moments that we just simply miss one was right off the top. This is how he we started. The press conference. Hello plan is it is the greatest i word to a press conference. Ever i defy you argue with me. Lou do mike jack sort of doing a mike. Check check off so just being pleasantville as he always was lou. This is i'd say an hour or so after the news broke and there was tons of confusion and no <hes> knew what was going on and this was a man ever wanted to hear for that's how he started the press conference then if you do then if you were fast forward about five and a half minutes into the press press conference andrew luck address something that was really not on anybody's mind at the time i guess fitting that i'm in my retirement press conference in athletics lettuce shirt and i looked pretty rowdy up here after game so sorry mama. I can't have a better appearance right now apologizing to his mom in his final. <hes> public outfit put on the poll. Please at lebatardshow was the best part of andrew luck goodbye the hello who could that be the only time in history that the best part is someone. Goodbye is hello. Hello that's it. I think we've now closed the chapter forever all right. We've closed the chapter for now until some news emerges. I want to ask you guys something something that are mean and i were talking about on highly questionable yesterday as we continue to gorge for now three years on the cabernet trough appending stills is sort of in danger of losing his job. He's right on the cause. Pisa difficult salary cap hit next year. He's very expensive for someone on with mediocre output and brian floor is the coach of the dolphins in challenging him publicly in creating a distraction with jay. Z music was saying he hasn't been the player we need him to be an. I need him to concentrate on the onfield stuff instead of the off field stuff the jay z. music is just just noise although he has said he's practised better since he played the jay z. Songs that's <hes> stugotz is strong and brian florez. Kenny stills has been better since i motivated damn to be better with my ridiculous jay z thing that i had to explain but this is what i would ask you guys in the present two thousand nineteen climate. If you were the agent for any stills if all other things are equal and your guy is a borderline cut you tell him to go make the agree to disagree mess because it gives them leverage like i'm not even questioning whether other not kenny stills it sincere about the cause because i believe him to be sincere about the cause i'm saying if your his agent and do you put him in the room with stephen ross and have him emerge large from the room with the owner of the dolphins and say we agree to disagree because it makes it more difficult to cut him because it absolutely does. There's no disputing that it makes it more difficult on a nowhere aware team even if you've got reasonable football reasons for cutting him and do it the optics make it more difficult hasn't exactly worked out for colin kaepernick apper nick. I mean it just has it so with kenny stills. It would make it more difficult. I feel like it's difficult right now for stephen ross to do it i mean he was he was nominated as swipe player of the year like off the field work doing work for stephen ross's foundation like i think it's a bad look right now to get rid again. That's what i'm saying. No i'm saying that if your kenny stills agent as a leverage move because you know your guy is on the cusp. Do you say make a bigger public mess because it makes it much harder for this guy. Stephen ross is not equipped for this stephen. Ross is not a public figure. Anyone who's been around announce. Stephen ross will tell you that these waters are not the waters. He wants to be navigated. Yes make the biggest possible mess. It gives you more leverage. Yes it will make him look bad if he <unk> decides to get rid of you yup and that part is interesting to me as a because everyone can be right on that one where the dolphins can absolutely absolutely tried to argue that this is a reasonable football move to get rid of a guy who expensive and bella check my guess would fear to hell of a lot less than the dolphins because bella and craft can do whatever they want clearly clearly bob kraft can do just about whatever he wants and clearly bella check can do just about anything that he wants and they don't have to worry about optics. They don't have to worry about public relations. Let me let me talk about public relations here for a second because we found ourselves in the middle of something with paul finebaum here yesterday that we were treating you know as a little bit of a joke we didn't demand an apology demanded a clarification because it's a ridiculous thing to demand in vigorous tone. We demanded a clarification occasion on him calling miami third world program. Here's the sound what other story i saw this morning. <hes> the four band director was attacked out in the parking. Take anything about that. I have heard i haven't heard much but i did hear about. It and i don't want to incite the crowd here but <hes> when it comes to miami nothing surprises me. It's it's just a it's a third world program. If you ask me well at least one was shot i guess and so <hes> paul finebaum and i don't know whether i talked him this morning and he's genuinely remorseful to remorseful. I feel like honestly because i'm not the angry mom guy. We're not the angry mob <hes> people. I'm scared of the angry mob. I watched the chapelle special and i'm seeing a guy who used to be for the disenfranchised and now he's a rich celebrity producting celebrity in protecting his ability to make money with his comedy of the ability to be say whatever he wants because he's protecting his perspective and the paul had mentioned to me and he apologized wait. I thought way too profusely on the air but he was genuinely sorry because someone on his staff evidently was a u._m. Person and brought to light to him. Hey this wasn't the thing to say and it's really all ever asking for with these conversations. You don't have to apologize just think about <unk> out at the next time the choice that you're making and paul finebaum clearly will because look he fell on the sword. I felt too hard yesterday. We had quite a bit of conversation asian about the university of miami and in a conversation with a caller. I said some incredibly unfortunate things. This is where sometimes sometimes talk. Show host tried to clip kate. They tried to explain. They tried to clarify. I'm not gonna do that today because once you say something it's done. You can't take it back. I should know that i'm a professional. I've been doing this very long time. In what i said here. Yesterday was very hurtful to a number of people for that. I sincerely apologize to all miami fans and to the university of miami. I wish i could take it back but i can't all i can do is apologize and worked very hard to avoid similar some more mistakes in the future so it was honest and what i was telling us to god's about public relations and one of the things that's been maddening to me since i got into the sports coverage business is when public relations people started getting involved in stuff like this what happens is a small distilling of the honesty and protection of how things look instead of how things actually are public what relations exist to protect the how things look and if that's your governor it's a poison it is defense to everything that resembled resembled creativity stugatz here dollar shave club but i talk about dollar shave club. I can't stress enough the quality of their products. They have spent years developing crafting refining everything anything they have everything. I used a look feel smell my bass you name it. They have it now. Use it. I've been dollarshaveclub member for years now and as amazing as their shave stuff says dollarshaveclub is way more than just razors dollarshaveclub. Has you covered head to toe. They have everything you need to shower. Shave style your hair. Brush your teeth and yes even wipe your but i never have time at a store. Wondering if what i'm getting is any good as dollarshaveclub number. I know what i'm getting is the highest quality right now you you can put the quality of dollarshaveclub product to the test. Their ultimate shave starter set has basically everything you need for an amazing shave the executive razors shea butter prep scrub and post-shave oh shave do the best part. Is you try for just five dollars. That's it after that. The restock box shifts regular size products at regular prices. Get your ultimate starter set for just five dollars right now. Only at dollarshaveclub dot com slash dan. That's dollarshaveclub dot com slash. Dan ballers is making kylie anticipated return to h._b._o. On august twenty fifth dwayne johnson returns spencer stress more a retired football star about two faces biggest challenge yet also starring golden globe nominee john david washington with guest stars like beckham junior and other celebrities and athletes even russell brand returns is the c._e._o. Of sports x. and extreme sports media company the stakes of never been higher. Dr spencer tries to leave his past behind and reach the highest levels of the sport. It's not where you start. It's where you finish bothers sundays at ten thirty pm only on h._b._o. C._e._o. Donlevatar is the number of people who would risk certain death to go to mars staggering because i don't believe it is still god's although stu gods now thinking about it wait. Can i get famous appearance fee. What is mars's pay is an appearance fee. I could colonize entire land of content where storm around and teach all the people of my primitive ways. I start sports radio and mars event microphone. The listeners are going to be a struggle at the beginning. Maybe we don't know really right. Maybe we'll have the numbers show mark d._c._c. donlevatar show with stugatz on e._s._p._n. Radio i believe that i have found so far and we've talked a lot about how the a._f._c. east is something for twenty years is that bill belichick and tom brady have laughed at but patriot disciple is now running the dolphins and i believed i have found the greatest moment of his dolphins coaching era the largest victory so far that he has had it is a brian flora's with the gentle etiquette has won the day football. You learn a lot about life. You learn about teaching life lessons. I should say one one is you can do everything everything right. You can work hard. Put the team. I you could do everything right. You can work as hard as you possibly absolutely can can <hes> can come to meetings early. You can stay late. You can do all these things. Sometimes don't work out. That's life. That's not just football. Bless you bless you are mondo mini answer giving a licensed real life lesson. There is no matter how much you despise a reporter you can didn't bless him. When he sees very polite very does he was teaching us from that coaching pedestal where we get wisdom. I'm from these leaders of ours whether it be nick sabin or <hes> brian flora's just very simply kind and delicate of him to wish that somebody somebody who might sound a little bit unhealthy would be blessed by god. That's that's not just football blessing. There's no way ballot jack's doing that. No put it on. The podium at lebatardshow is bill ballot. Check saying gazillion tied or bless you to any reporter during a press conference onto interrupts him with us need. I've got check giving a look like with a gross face. Why are you sneezing in my press conference. Mike if you do me a favor. I'm thinking of one in particular but just go to our library sneezes here because i would like to just <hes> m._t._r. Sneeze file as i looked through some of the commentary i am getting on this paul finebaum thing it is funny to hear the people who want the other side on this <hes> so here we go all right. I can clarify fine. Bombs comment meant easily. The florida band director was assaulted by miami fans outside the stadium just as one might expect to happen at a soccer game in the third world country. Why is this so bleeping hard for. Dan lebatardshow comprehend then. There's this directed at fine bomb who cannot win in this circumstance. Oh boy oy. I generally despise you but actually applauded you this morning for calling miami third world program twist now wait a minute. There's no it gets even better. There's another turn yes. They are pure thugs. I resumed a hating you however when you apologize to grow a spine paul we have arrived at a place where people are mad at apology. That's right don't apologize his first of all. That's something i always think is interesting even though we're not the show whoever demands an apology. I always think it's interesting that people think that there's some sort of weakness in saying saying hey i'm sorry i made a mistake if we don't do that all the time ballot check double down double down stubbornly on being wrong. I like this new evolution of that is how dare you accept his apology. What it was good and remorseful for you not for me not sincere enough but i i keep tying to the chapelle special because i find myself disappointed even as i found it funny find him funny and and and judging him. I'm only on the chapelle bar right which is impossibly high. He makes that stuff look so easy. It's not that easy but he's punching down man sexual abuse loosed victims transsexuals and protecting celebrity and i get i get why he would protect a louis c. k. Hey in that situation because chapelle doesn't want everyone coming for his stuff. Chapelle was finally got real freedom. The man didn't feel like you had fifty million dollars from comedy central and fled to the africa because he wanted real legitimate freedom and now he's got it. He keeps your cell phones. He does all his own content. He doesn't need much of anybody like he. Could you just get on a stage and print money but he's he's doing everything he's doing. These days from the perspective used to be disenfranchised of the rich celebrity birdie and he's punching down on the easiest targets. I just want him to do better because i want him to grow artistically 'cause i can't imagine and i look please understand. I know how immensely talented this person is and he can do whatever you want with his career including punch down and print money for the rest of his life right but i would just love to see what he becomes in his fifties because he's still some kind of intellectually curious but you seem disappointed like you were expecting something bigger and better but i think that's on you a little bit right. That's on the audience for setting the bar so high for him. He said it pretty high because he's great at what he does and even when i was watching even though i have my objections do it was great and there is no disputing his greatness. I'm simply saying that given that greatness. I would like him to go <unk> after people that are a little harder to punch. Let's empty the sneezes file. I'm hoping that it closes with the sneeze hall of famer that we have which is lou holt but give me whatever else how many have here in the in the sneeze filed. I is quinton williams of the new york jets sneezing and then blessing himself during a care to things thing that i got here so wow combo bless you and thank you hear what else these vile. Oh that's right. The laid great fake dusty rose roads. I'm alan fever and here's our hauling. It says the first ballot hall of famer this is lou holtz and this is davis being really this is what uh-huh catapulted davis into national and international greatness also mentioned a mirror of dula marshall usually tall routine kato who gets the touchdown passenger forty seven johnson put up two hundred seventy two yards. That's a martial record nothing to sneeze at its racist finest moments i also i believe to be lou. Holtz is even though he sounds like an old car in the nineteen twenties honking for pedestrians to get out of the way it's time for some ads so that close the sneeze file yeah spur now until someone someone else sneezes and then we'll reopen it. Your home is important. That's why gyco helps make it easy to save on condo insurance because because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism too far because there's only one chair in your entire condo in your only entertainment is one card not even a deck of cards but a single cart and all your guests have to share one plate and one fork but you're convinced that less stuff means more frito the geico insurance agency could help protect the overly minimalist broom closet you you call home call geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on condo insurance donlevatar stu gods when we decided to move to south florida decided that he was gonna in a move to neptune he thought that would be a good commute keeps buying homes further and further north stugatz last time i checked in with him he was he was having in a home built on stilts in the middle of the atlantic ocean these lebatardshow with stugatz on e._s._p._n. Radio is gonna get you updated updated here on the things happening in sports but this is our annual awards show for the week. We're doing all week where we celebrate the last year of us being and terrible at radio and we've got another sui category right after stu gods update you on the news of the day e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance. The dan lebatardshow joe is brought to you by new shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline now with four levels of the fans against gunk wear corrosion and friction guests on the dan lebatardshow appear via the shell pennzoil performance line. Here's your sports update royals owner david glass negotiating a sale of the team to businessman john sherman for more than a billion dollars guillermo put on the pole. Are you surprised that the royals are worth more than a billion dollars in the marlins. Were at lebatardshow crazy. The dolphins are interested. Injures didn't trading for j._v. and cloudy cloudy is yet to sign his one year franchise tender with the texans and finally a doctor in vietnam used a small camera to look inside the car patient who came in complaining of severe ear pain and found that the cause of the pain was due to a large be burrowing inside the man's ear canal. What's that happens a good amount. Actually i've seen way too many videos of somebody fishing out an insect or bug from career. I've seen way too many of those really yes. Go ahead. You wanna go you wanna fall down in discussing youtube rabbit hole. Go ahead and just youtube pulling insects. Out of the year wants to go down that rabbit. Hey i'm just saying if you do want to have you ever had an insect crawl into your ear. No oh my god it's the scariest i think for a number of reasons because then obviously the next place you go is did this as something in my head like are there baby spiders or whatever now in my brain and you never know there's there's no way to find out until you die and there's an autopsy for all the latest headlines and information tune into sports center on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day so mike. What is the sui category here. We've had some monsters over the last couple of days. I don't understand why you guys have made these so strong on the front end so that <hes> the future ones have an expectation to live up. The guys told me they have ten strong ones. This year are all equally straw told me well. What's this one. Mike how you feel about this one. This one's the weakest of the bunch this one is <hes> you know on legacy category how legacy category i always historically our shortest suey and this year is no different. Here is the best laugh laugh laugh laugh from that happened. This year. Sui to sui on the dan lebatardshow was stugatz and now the sui louis nominees for best laugh. Dennis quaid off bill barnwell david spade. I eason strauss keegan. Michael key. Bill simmons greg cody jay bilas director of i._m. Richard pryor jesse james james miller leonard the guy who plays dr william halstead in chicago med nick bell uh-huh yeah rosie perez seth green tim cartoon jim coaching again. Tom barringer enough rio miami city commissioner barbara jordan who called dwayne wade wade jones. Mike ryan awkwardly laughs at the recent deterioration of dan's interviewing skills. I love thomas church. We didn't interview with him. He wants one. Is it possible to have any other kind of interviews with them. Especially not lately. I mean i was saying with you really but thompson church was do you have acne the nervous. Laughter is what we call it. He's been calling me. The pool halls contract because of the interviews lately yeah. I was gonna go barringer but i think i might just got my votes about that. I forgot barringer was on this show yeah nice recap. That's the that category really represents. It's just here. We had these here. These people we talked to all of them laughed. After somewhere between in in different and faking also at this were four minutes removed from this but stu gods update confused everybody buddy when he said a doctor looked inside someone's car and we had to cross reference the the actual script that he indeed said ear he just read god <hes> yeah well listen an ease very close to see you take that little cookout and then all of a sudden boom to see i don't know what happened or anything there but that's not reading the internet majesty him having comprehension and reading skill problems but i would say this in his meager defense okay this has been and we're only halfway through the week the single oldest week into god's life okay he has over the course of the last seven days or so he has yearned for when your mom called you in to come in from outdoors. He is yearn defer missile command as a video game. He was talking about calling a telephone line for scores when he was a kid or it's phone <hes> he was talking about the making of the thriller video and offaire are he asked me this week dan how much your glasses 'cause so so that's how here became car there because he can't see anything anymore. I mean technically each week is my oldest week technically right. We agree this week. I'll be older you won't be. I don't think it's possible for you to be older and then you have been over the last seven days where you are just you have become put it on the pole. Guillermo at lebatardshow has gods become hank goldberg over the last last week but you know what these kids in the other room they laugh at us. It's going to happen to you guys man. It's going to happen to you. I know you guys have been with us for a while but i've done yet the sites get start. Go the hearings gonna start all of it. I know i said the same thing. It's not going to happen to me. It's gonna happen to you. This is trademark people. I know it really is. He's doubling down alanon not old by threatening you guys with. You're going to get all get off my lawn. These aim free time for some ads thinks ballers. The stakes are higher than they've ever been. I can't believe it either either impossible after season one do they just keep every sunday. Do the sakes just get higher. Yes yes. That's the thing that's baffling about it it. Is you think last week okay. That's this is the stakes can get and then boom the next week they're higher. It's likes to god's every week. He's a little bit older. He's unbelievably older. You say higher. We're gonna make it a thing though every monday billy is going to give us the spoiler laden review of that week's episode ballers in which the stakes have been raised. Eh previous we this is what happens with billy. He hates raised stakes. Okay because the moment this would be funny if he would just update on his on ballers but as soon as we give him the assignment he starts fearing all the ways that can go wrong more than race steak. I hate ten o'clock shows. It's so late. Abolish wants to send me all their episodes. I'll watch them tomorrow m._r. and o'clock on a sunday so lake and samantha. Perhaps we give them until thursday to review it. I'm rubbing off on everyone. You're already becoming old. If you don't all kinds of stuff you can watch it. Whenever you want to watch when it comes on you can review it on friday familiar with the h._b._o. L. go app. It'll only go live on the episode airs don liberty card at finally joey chestnut major leagues eatings number for a one rated gluten devoured four thirteen hooters chicken wings stugatz glutton at so bad. It's glutton and i can't blame roy hi there. I'm not gonna blame right. He spelled it correctly the commerce there. Everything's there. I'm just an idiot. These libertas show with his two guys bats on e._s._p._n. Radio i'm watching kobe bryant right now on my television. Kobe bryant is in the news e._s._p._n. Again trafficking in whatever it is that kobe has to say and kobe says that shaquille o'neal would be the goat if he had kobe's work ethic <hes> kobe's the goat it is right. It is wonderful. He would not be the goat if he had kobi's shooting percentage. I but cody's is getting the best. The kobe kobe has been saying this to his credit. Since shaq was in a uniform next to him like kobe blew up the relationship by calling shack fat when he was still a laker right he goes on to say during this speaking engagement that he had that exactly what you said. I told jack at the time he also went on to say they would have won. Twelve rings together had shocked. You simply been in shaving gone to the gym with it. They would have one more. I don't know that that's up for dispute. They won plenty not <hes> but shaq did come back one off season when he put the movies aside the aladdin's aside when he put all that stuff aside our i'm sorry suzanne him. He wasn't aladdin when he put all the movies aside he came back all of a sudden with footwork footwork one off season right and next thing you know he was totally unstoppable around the rim him because he was doing these little jump. Everybody's like once that it used to be this big giant three hundred fifty pounds wall dunking on people out of here with a twelve rings to they they were at the end of their run and then shack one another one oh six and it was an that n._b._a. Finals we realize oh shocks the faw no but i love what he's saying here because because what he's saying is simply if he had been working as hard and as dedicated as i was we would have won every year because 'cause i brought championship commitment and so every year i played with how many years you play with them. Did you play with him twelve years like he didn't play with him. That long didn't know they didn't play twelve twelve years together. Yeah i like kobe. Just ignore the reason why they didn't play 'til years together which is he couldn't stand each other right and they they had an ultimatum and they got shot up out of there and this is my favorite thing about kobe bryant his greatest compliment that he can give to anyone. Is you remind me of me right. That mamba mentality with somebody hits a shot like in college basketball. That's what everyone's like. It's great. He's watching women's college basketball. He's so supportive and he gave that govern. Notre dame the the ultimate compliment mama metality which is a hey. Hey your mind me ask. I don't know that we've had a lot of better controversies in the history of basketball then kobe and shack going at it it in a way that made shack go onto a nightclub stage and say into a microphone kobe. Tell me how my bleep taste. I mean it was at one time that gilbert arenas brought four guns into the locker room was four or was it just one golden i think it was four and he said pick one did he have four guys have a gun. No no no no he had four guns and he put it out on the table and he's like pick one big one and according to urban legend jaguars clinton set pulled out his own guns. I don't even i got my oh and then started singing wacko jacko. Let's do it and that's when everyone in the locker room got the hell out of it except for gilbert who sat there and laughed story. Maybe you know what i stand corrected however in terms of more fun look in the the names that you're using in one story agent zero. He got agent zero then the other guy end up in actual jail for some sort of crime or g. for murder yes for murder could gone related to this <hes> but <hes> but shut kinda murdered kobe on that stage so this is the thing about that night it happened in the summer of two thousand and eight right so it was already the hatchet had already been buried a cause checklist for the suns at the time and i remember talking to shack and every time he spoke about kobe in private company was always at the highest praise sky's the best display over play with and and he would kill a lot of the other guys that he's played with that. I think publicly oh he loves that guy now quite oh you help me out here because you're more of a shock expert than i am but shock. I always thought whichever coach or training staff he went to next or whichever wing man he had next next to him. That was the greatest wing man he's ever had. It was penny than it was colby and then when when it was wade he started making away and then he stopped making it weighed when he left wade side expert. Am i wrong about that but shaq shaq was a master astor of the marketing right his whole thing was how can i make my teammates my guy look and feel better and so he would always compare the guy he's playing with more favorably against the other guys he's played with but i'm telling you behind closed doors that was that was the biggest soccer for me how much respect he spoke about kobe colby bryant and so when he did that on that stage that was shocked being playful it wasn't quite as much as the acrimony that happened earlier in their careers but kobe is right like when shacks extorted out right if i told you when shack just got started his rookie year he was gonna win four titles. It's really three in my personal record but wade one one but if i thought he was going to win four you which i that's not enough not enough career disappointment you would say that you absolutely would mean to god's or rings and he got drafted nineteen ninety-two at that point magic had five kareem had a bunch but most everyone had less than either two or three right. If you were the one of the greatest of all time remember ron's. John's only got three to one no but what kobe you're saying if i got to the gym if he worked hard they would have had twelve. What are you laughing about chris. What are you laughing about. God's got and i just love them. One of the county the quick pivot to the personal record book.

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63: Big Daddy Data with Karina Longworth

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63: Big Daddy Data with Karina Longworth

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Special guest queens pop in and out of the studio, they call and text other queens to find out what really happened on the show, and they have an insider's point of view on. How the show is made each episode is packed with Intel Honey behind the scenes rumors can. Lecture gossip and more tea than you can handle Alaska and William bring their very own charisma, uniqueness nerve and talents to give you oral pleasure. Every Wednesday on race chaser. So subscribe now just search for race chaser with Alaska and William anywhere. You get your podcasts. It's nine fifteen pm at one thirteen east thirty eighth street, and you're listening tonight. Call. Hello and welcome tonight. Call podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. I'm has Lynch in Los Angeles. And with me is special guest Karina Longworth high over in New York, we have as always Malir Shida. Guy. Hi, I'm so excited to have Corina on the show. It feels like it's been long overdue. Yes. Absolutely. And for those of you who do not know who have been living in a cave Creena hosts, you must remember this a really really great podcasts about Hollywood history and scandal and all sorts of juicy stuff that is it's on hiatus right now. Correct. But yeah, but if you haven't listened to it, you can go back and discover a whole wealth of podcast episodes past you should also read her books her newest one, I believe seduction sex lies and start him and Howard Hughes Hollywood. And it's amazing. So you should definitely get that. But yeah, I think you must remember this is definitely like night colleges, and we've all been big fans for a long time. So we're really happy to have green a here. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. I'm a fan of Nicole. Thank you. You. I'm so excited to talk about Radic thrillers. Yeah. It's like, I it's really it's really great. How much this series of ours has brought people out of the woodwork? Like, there are a lot of kind of secret enthusiasts. Who are like, oh, when are you going to do my like my favorite? We wanted to start off real quick just to acknowledge our new superstar the literally the black hole that was image die should say for the first time last week. So this is old news by the time. You're hearing this. But we just wanted to give it a little bit of out. Where were you? When you saw the black hole for the first time the black hole blip. Yeah. Where were you Karina? I think I was I had just turned on the shower, and I was waiting for it to heat up. And I was looking at it on my phone. Nice dangerous. I live way to this black hole has a name. And it's what has a couple names actually, just got a Hawaiian name. But it's it was originally an eighty seven star, you know, who Lara. It took me to realize that MED three the musical act slash band named after a star system. I it took me until I was today years old. Well, it's a really beautiful one. So he puts a good one. But and it's very appropriate. When you think about it because it's very galactic music like you feel very starry eyed when you're listening to I had no idea until like a year ago. So, but yeah, eighty-seven is the new the new hot galaxy in town. I know that there's been a little mini series coming out about it. And like the the the woman who actually was kind of spearheading the entire project to was kinda credited later on down the road. Of course, we tend to lose credit for our women in stem, and astronomy and stuff like that. But that was interesting. But I think like I like just reading what people felt seen for the first time, what kind of reactions did you see I missed this. I think Jezreel had a good post where it was just like they just opened up the comments and said Alice how you feel about the black hole. And of course, a lot of it is jokes. Like a lot of people had a lot of good jokes about the black hole. But I think I think it's interesting because it's something that, you know, you feel like you've seen zillion times because we've seen like re-creations of them inside movies, or, you know, in in a time life science book or something like that. Like, you you kinda know what a black hole is supposed to look like. But actually seeing an actual one is very it is an interesting feeling. I I like it. I like I like to ponder the black hole. It kind of looks like an like an ultrasound image of an eyeball. Yeah. A little bit like all that kind of strata and the lake orangey kind of background. It's a little bit too much for me. I think we've we've now been talking about the ultra black holes on the floor, you know, and now black hole like there's been a whole. Rod cat aren't black holes. Molly's fear of whole. Yes. Little the little holes. After we finish the erotic thrillers. We should just do whole that we can do the movie halls. Well, please give us a night. Call at one to four zero four six night and tell us how the black hole made you feel or any other thoughts. You might have about the black hole. We welcome them all the black holes. Evergreen content. I feel like it literally. I mean, it's. Yeah. It's timeless literally. Yes. Yeah. And spatially expanding. Eight five twelve twelve fifteen. This week's episode of night. Call is brought to you by cheers health. So it is spring time for everybody to come out of their hibernation holes and socialize again. And remember what it feels like to have human contact. I know that I've been doing a lot of that recently. It's weird. It's uncomfortable. It also involves drinker to every now and then everybody likes the good spring. Rosie here in their Wayne season's coming up you might want to Taiwan or two on two people say Taiwan on any more very old. I sounds like an old old lady, which I am. 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Our erotic thriller odyssey. We are. We are going to be speaking about sliver the nineteen ninety three film who by Phil noise, Illinois. I love the last name noise. It's really appropriate for this. It is we're going to get to that in the second half. Because oddly, some some recent interesting stories of fit right into our wheelhouse. Namely, the Bloomberg article that came out last week about Alexa, and other home. I guess what? What's what's the general turn ours? Smart smart, home device mart home devices. Apparently, there's an apple one. I've never heard of. So I guess they're not doing a very good job with that one called home pod. But but there's also the Google home. But alexa. I feel like is the one that everybody has in the eco-. Do you have an Alexa or echo? No. But my phone like always thinks I'm talking. Yes, syria. So is trying to wedge her way into my conversation. Yeah, I'm surprised. She didn't just say something. But I like I had dental work done last week. And for some reason Siri kept thinking, I was saying her name more than usual because I was like mumbling. So anytime, I would say anything with an 'Sound. She would be like, I don't understand see I thought I had the Siri thing turn 'cause I can actually see some use for that. If I am, you know, washing the dishes or cooking something, and I just need like to to know what time ever work. No, never what you want. Yeah. Like, she never is actually helpful. She's never able to find like the contact. He wanted hind or put on the podcast you want her to put on whenever. I'm like tell me how long it's gonna take to get to blink place. She's like do you want me to make you a reservation? Not what I asked. She wants to put down money mart things. I don't like the smart. I turn Siri off and thought she was completely off. And then she was like Hello. No, you're off. But I got really creeped out about privacy. Not that I really have any secrets, but I tried to like lock everything down a while ago. But a friend of mine just said that she that Alexa. She's a teacher in Alexa, was like chiming in her classroom with leg. Let's racy content. Yeah. I mean, it's Alexa. None of them have any tact terrible. So this article that came out by it was by team of people Bloomberg Matt day, Giles Turner and Italia. Drozdiak the difference between like having Siri on the phone. It's like you're gonna get a phone anyway. And it's like a piece of software that comes on the phone that you theoretically can disable, but Alexa, is expressly for the purpose of having a robot. That listens to you and takes your data and use. To quote, get smarter. And so this was a report they did where they talked to a lot of people who worked at these centers some are within Amazon itself. And some of them are outsourced to other companies where in a way that I feel like we've seen a lot of stories similar to this in recent years. There are people whose job it is to just listened to your recordings. Like, listen to the stuff that all these Alexis pickup because it's not just a robot that is artificial intelligence. It's way to tell you about a restaurant that you might want may or may not want to go to a lot of times these are going to actual humans who then figure out what to do with that data try to get better at recognizing what you're saying. And why you're asking certain questions and stuff like that? But like in the meantime, of course, they pick up all sorts of stuff that. You might not actually want anybody to hear such as in one case in the report, a sexual assault or probable sexual assault. It talks about the people who work at these centers picking up on this stuff and sharing it with everybody. And I guess like a slack channel or something. But it's not like for means of reporting, it it's like just talk about it like, yeah, you're stressed out. Because you heard this. So you wanna share with people or like, you wanna make fun of somebody singing in the shower or that it picked up or something which is like really creepy. Like, yeah. It would be one thing if it was like, oh, we heard this. And we need to figure out. What legally were you know, what we need to do around? What we think we're hearing right now. But a lot of times it feels like it's just like LOL or oh, my God, isn't as creepy and nothing being done. Not that I think right. Not like you necessarily want. Authorities to come in Russian help you or something because your robot heard you. But I don't know. It was a robot is not that great at like determining concern. No. No. But like, you know, the robot picks it up, and then humans here it, and then you have a morality question where before there, perhaps it was a different morality question. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I just think it's wild that anybody paid to put these in their homes like you're like doing the work for like your pain where it's just there were a couple of other articles this week to which will now be a week old for listeners. But you can I'm sure there will be three more articles about the exact same thing. One of them was how capitalism betrayed privacy by Tim Wu in the New York Times, which kind of talks about how privacy was initially thought of as being kind of like a rich person's, you know. Oh, yeah. The rich people had access to it. And, you know, poor people lived in more of like a communal living with less expectation of privacy, and then gradually how the rise of the middle class. Afforded more people the right to privacy. And now because the gatekeepers are all interested in our data and behavior that it's kind of turning around where the expectation of privacy is no longer like, you know, it's being kind of a rooted. And then there was also a really scary article CNBC, I think reported that twenty two percent of organizations are starting to track employee movement and Amazon and WalMart both. Yeah, they have the patents on the kind of their sensors that track both movement and are listening for like the rustling of bags and conversations between the cashiers and the customers we didn't the Vida scanner. Oh. It's horrible. It's very interesting because these things are all so terrifying. When you kind of come across them and they've been going on. I mean, if you start to look a about how long people have been saying like, oh, I think my phone is listening to me just by the denials of these companies. We started talking about it a few years ago already been discussion for years before that. But it's just bizarre. How little there is to grab onto even now in terms of you know, like a really trustworthy conversation about whether or not that's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like everybody has opinion now about whether or not they're listening to them, especially Instagram Corinna, where do you fall out? Definitely my devices are absolutely, you know, I know because of the ads I get right. Like, it will be extremely bizarre of almost even like not saying things out loud. Just feeling denies that out loud. I thought I just thought that. And then it's like, well, you know, you could buy a, you know, steam punk laundry, hamper. It's like you've done enough other actions that like algorithm would lead you to the steam punk, laundry, hamper. Yeah. Which I did buy. Like, what is the idea static is more? Like, it's like what would be in the orphanage and returned to us. Oh, like a metal wire thing with wheels. And then like a big canvas bag inside how and no gargoyles or I know. I mean, I I guess I could attach. Could. Umbrella like. Or like umbrella. Yeah. About idea. Yeah. I feel like I remember running into so much resistance about this people really acting as if I was a conspiracy theorist like that was the only thing I really seriously. I think honestly believed something kind of in that realm felt conspiracy ish and was not universally met with people being like, oh, yeah. Though, that's definitely happening. Like when I was working at a tech side. A lot of people were like, that's a common crackpot conspiracy. And you are dome for thinking that. But now, I mean, I don't know. I don't know where the consensus zone it now because I feel like more and more people are just like reporting these things you see like every single day. Why do you think people get defensive as if it's not a thing? It seems as a thing. It's obviously thing and yet people are like, no, no, no. You have to believe it's not a thing which seems to me to be a very crazy stance because he sees if you hang bought in. So much to like overall tech culture where they've they have put enough of their chips on the thing. Like, I am going to get into the lifestyle where you get all the things I'm an early adopter on everything. Right. I'm going to put all my dad on the cloud and its owned by Google or apple whoever. And this is like not just a choice of convenience or something. This is kind of like a a principle. It's. It's like a lifestyle choice. It's like a set of beliefs. And so if you're if somebody questions the. I don't know practicality or. How how wise it is to actually do all of this stuff that it feel personal? I think for people. Yeah. I think I mean at one point it was all of that stuff was like viably utopian. And now, it just seems like there's no way you could not see it as dystopia. Yeah. It's like it's like like Newt codes or something like you've created this thing that you know, is now potentially much more if if it were to fall in the wrong hands if it's not already in the wrong. It's already in there. Whose hands could be worse. There's no there's no right hands late capitalist. There's a this is like tangentially related because one of the things I also always would pick up on that. I would talk about something like a place or a business, and then it would pop up on my Google maps. Yeah. It wouldn't be a place. I'd gone. It was just a place. Maybe I was talking about somebody a now Google maps when you're doing directions on it. It will. I don't think this is like the same phenomenon. But it's just like just sucks. It'll say like take a right. Not at the street that you're like, yeah. Yeah. It's eight it so much. It's very strange. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, what are those placements that are being bought? I think I think they have right. Yeah. Because I mean week I'm getting ones that are like really inconsistent with any place. I go like armies. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like, I don't know. I've like totally blocked out arby's in my field division. I don't see them. And then it's like, where's the I don't know where the arby's. Yeah. Me to take a right? Yeah. It's very frustrating drying one way hat. You can't miss it through. It was my grandmother's favorite restaurant are loving RV are. Honestly there was a quote in. I think it was the New York Times. Bed. And it said that once you I'm not gonna read it. But I'll just summarize because it was kind of long. But once you realize that you're being watched or that, you're being surveilled. You can't continue to act authentically. You can't shake that feeling. And it it totally changes your behavior in general. So like what you've really lost? Once you acknowledge that you're being surveilled all the time is your soul, and that's what's slither slivers. Exactly. Before we get to sliver. Do you guys want to take a night? Let's take night. Call. Hey night. Call my name's Breen. I'm calling from Soviet ho California. And it's six forty four eight am I heard you guys on this weeks step so talking about fifty head drains, big cat, preserve and I actually business. I was in junior college, and I randomly took aches. It was a wild animal class something wild animal handling something like that. And we actually took a field trip to the preserve. And it was actually really cool. They have a lot of interesting things there. One of they talked about with three legged cheetah. So they said could still run, you know, about thirty miles per hour. Let's rethink there was also talked about how they had a. Tigon which is a tiger bothers like her mom and this these like Bob for to a tie. I thought which is when they tigon who has now with the Tigers, dad. So that was pretty cool. It was a definitely an interesting experience. But I'm all for you know, people helping out these big cats by their been abandoned right to your by weird people who think that they should probably have a tiger in their house. You know, there's a lot of people out there. All right. I call have great day. You know, it's funny. I just as a side note is how often we get the we get our all of our calls through Google voice. And it automatically transcribes it and half the time. When people say hi night, call it turns crisis. Hi, Michael all the time. Like our podcast is now Michael are Michael as yes. Absolutely. A trio. I didn't realize that different species of wild cats could diversify like that. No, I did not know about tigon. That's new. Sounds like game of thrones. It's good to know. They're all horny for each other. Maybe it's just the sanctuary lifestyle. Like. Like. Everyone knows retreat. Yeah. Have either of you have been to the Tippi Hedren, preserve? I I know one person who has I think for a story. A a profile of her. But it seems seems pretty wild. I can't believe it's still there, and I've never seen Rura either. Which like, I guess I I don't know. I'm saving it for the right moment or something. But it was wanted to we should cover that. Yeah. I haven't either I have mixed feelings about about. I mean, I'm glad the sanctuaries exists. But it's just I find it increasingly difficult to just look at animals in cages. Yeah. Not in kill as though right? Like, they're just kind of. I mean, it's it's probably enclosed in someone though. Yeah. But it's like it's just odd to me just doesn't like doesn't really know thrill like sadness little layer of sadness and just like worrying about the world. There is something interesting about the fact that Tippi Hedren like has her cat thing. And then Doris day has gone into seclusion like with her animals. Oh, doesn't have like a public place where you can visit them she just like supposedly collects sort of stray animals, these people who has leaded nobody phones in her house or something or I don't know if they're exotic at all it might just be like cats and dogs, but she, you know, she's kind of like disappeared from the public eye for the past twenty years or so she doesn't give any interviews or anything. But like the only sort of public stuff, she does is animal rescue initiatives and she supposedly like lives on a a ranch somewhere like an it's just her and her animals, she's outlived like her whole, right? Yeah. Whichever news. So. So only barely related to this. I was looking at yelp reviews for the bunny museum. Have you guys ever been to the homes Eum, though, it's a it's a museum? I think it used to be in like a little house, and is now has now moved. But I went there once in high school in it's like, it's just basically a bunch of like bunny memorabilia, and then a few funnies in a very in very close quarters. And you don't know what it is. And you make a long drive to get there. And then it's like, it's just a very intense experience that I would say probably ten percent of the people who go there respond well to the others like what if I'd is it like cafe for bunnies. 'cause I've done that before engine. Now, it is it is like you're not really encouraged to interact with the live bunnies. You're encouraged to like take in the stuffed bunnies in the bunny kind of like your race. The big in the war. I get a panic attack shocking about it. I just had to like rid myself, but you can just read the yelp reviews and get a really really good sense of what it is. I was looking into a recently because I was like funny museum sounds familiar, but I'm sure it's not this one. I went to maybe I wanna go. No, it is the same one. And I'm not gonna go to that. You know, it's it's a mixed bag when you when you go into the the place where there are a lot of animals, it's close. It is really really weird. Like, I I watched this actually really great short film that I was I was an injury in festival in Italy forces film about these like this group of old Italian men who are all like hunting for this mythical panther. That's been seen by people like an occasionally will like eat, a sheep or something. But apparently was owned like I guess by somebody in the sixties or seventies or something when it was like guess that was a trend again in Italy like among the rich people to have, you know, these exotic pets than they would get big and. Couldn't take care of anymore. So I guess it's somewhat common for these like answers and cheetahs and stuff to just be like hanging out. You know in Tuscany or whatever that's a fascinating short. I will see that. Yeah. I wonder if it's if it's available to screen anywhere or stream I will put a link somewhere for it. Because it's great excellent. I wanna learn all of my theme park fans all of my roller coaster obsessive all of my carnival loving thrill seeking freaks of nature that there is a podcast me. Just for them. It's called podcast the ride and it's available on the forever dog podcast network. If you are a giant fan of DisneyWorld Universal Studios or six flags you need to start listening to podcast the ride assumes possible. The three hosts our theme park know, it alls doing credible. Deep dives on your favorite rides in parks with your favorite comedians like Jeff Garlan, Paul Scheer. John Daly and many more podcast. There is hilarious nostalgic. Full of heart and the rollercoaster insight. You didn't even know you needed to near life. I've been a guest on pike house there. I had we talked about big under mountain one of my favorite Disneyland rides the ball time. And these guys know so much about parks. They know more than anybody about anything subscribed. The podcast the ride right now at apple podcasts. Spotify Stitcher or wherever you get your podcasts. Guys. We have to talk about sliver. I'm really excited to talk about this movie. It made it makes no sense. It makes no sense. It's a proto cyberthriller. I love it. But I I it took me a really it was a long journey for me or erotic odyssey. Exactly. For those of you who don't know you have to talk about the end. Yeah. You have to talk about the ending of to talk about the ending almost was. This is a nineteen ninety three movie based on an IRA Levin novel who did he did separate wives and Rosemary's baby directed by Phillip Noyce as we said. And of course, it's Joe Astor house. So let's let's go first of all Carina. This was a pick of yours this one we wanted to do. But then we we asked if you wanna be on the show, and if you wanted to talk about an erotic thriller, and we were also talking about what you felt like maybe the original erotic thriller was or the history at least of the of the genre. But then we're like, oh, we just wanna watch sliver because basically. I know you said that this is a particular favorite of your so white. When did you see it? And why did you respond to do think? So I saw this movie in the theater when I was in seventh grade don't know how that was possible. I don't remember there being any trouble buying a ticket to it. I know I went with a girlfriend of mine like after school on a Friday afternoon at Universal City walk, and I just remember like really loving it at age twelve and a half and part of it was like it had a big hit soundtrack at had that. Yeah. You'd be forty the UV Florida. I think there was like a couple of other sort of hit songs, and so it just felt like so hip and adult and sexy, and like I mean, I was sort of a fledgling Goff. And I was wearing a lot of black chokers, and Sharon Stone wears a choker, and like three seen this movie while also kind of pioneering at leisure, these incredible lake leggings and like. Kashmir coat look. Yeah. Straight from the gym like to the bedroom. Look. Yeah. But then I saw it a lot after that. I think it was on TV lot. And then there was a period around two thousand three where I was. I'd been living in San Francisco, and I was going to move to New York, but I was still hanging around after I had to give up my apartment, and so if staying with a friend of mine who had like a big like Victorian apartment in sort of on the border of Chinatown in San Francisco, and she was on disability for being depressed. And so she didn't have to job. She just was able to live in this Victorian apartment and paint all day and she liked to paint with movies on in the background and her favorite thing to put on vertigo. But sometimes she'd alternate it was sliver, and she would just watch the two of those movies like over and over again. And I remember sitting there for like three days reading the book that that guy. Steve Hodel wrote about how his dad killed the black Dahlia while this woman was watching sliver over and over. Yeah. It's not depressing. August two thousand three for me. Wow. It's funny because I was talking about like real estate horror in feel like there should be more of it. And then yes, it's like, well, this feels like maybe one of five movies. I can think of off the top of my I would consider realistic. Rena read the book, and I think the way more about the physical play aren't men and kind of like less about whatever these soda trying to. I mean, I have read the book since nineteen Ninety-three like I 'cause I love the movie so much as twelve and a half year old. And then like, I was like I need more. And so I I read the book then so I don't remember that. Well, but I do remember that there was more of this element of kind of like corporate satire, right? And there. I mean, I guess we should talk about what the plot of the movie is. But there are conversations in the movie where at first they're like who even owns this building at right? It be turns out. It's just Billy Baldwin. Yes. Philly Baldwin interesting choice for this role. Yeah. I mean, he makes much more sense as the guy with the manga posters and like three different screensavers like in nineteen three going on. And like some weird fiber optic sculpture in his apartment than like the. The sexy. The sexy voyeur like I don't have one half more for me than the. And as and as great as your and stones wardrobe was in this movie, like his was just re- a really bold really strange choice of the graphic tee shirt with rolled sleep into the gene, he's white jeans. Like he lives in like, he looks like a guy Brooklyn now, though, that's the crazy thing. It's like, it's come home, full circle. I know it's true. Well, a lot about this movie is like more timely than it was at in ninety three. But yeah, we should talk briefly about the plot. Yes. Which let's let's tangle it. So we have Carly Sharon Stone. And she I forget she age editor she's urging executive or something like that hot Bush's working on a James Dean biography. She has to like edit really fast. And I wish she had edited it there are no good James. It's true. It sounded it sounded like she was that. She was she had a good repertoire, and that was like slumming it a little bit. So would have been great then she is moving into an apartment, which is known as one thirteen the Wikipedia for this film says that it the building is located at one thirteen east thirty eighth street, but the actual building used in the movie was Morgan court, which is a couple of blocks away on Madison. It is a the sliver building. Because it looks like a little slice of a Bill. Apparently those were like you couldn't build those for a while. I guess before or after like this big boom them. But now, I feel like. They've come comeback baby in like, your and more obtrusive form. But I liked that it was like considered. I guess it was like a very like ochre aunt architecture style to like frame horror movie or suspense movie round or something. But yeah, it's, you know, it's this very desirable exclusive building, and she applies and she gets in, and, you know, very shortly after she moves in she realizes that the previous tenant was murdered which we see car. Yes. Naomi singer. And she meets some of the people who have in the building one of them happens to be this author the slight crime author played by Tom Barringer, who I guess are companies like trying to get to work with. But she's super creepy. Rousing. Yeah. And then also Billy Paul Dwin. Who is not creepy. No. He so. All. Game designer later video game designer have you. Yes. Okay. Fair. His signature flirtation move is to like hack into people's desktop computers. Be like Hello. I love you ghostwriter, offend them clip. Art of a flower flower the rose clue. Greece. Nobody in this movie has a sense of humor. And also I have to shout out. Sharon, stone's office, mate. Her co worker who is like do so off the rails, then constantly talking about vibrators and really unrealistic. There's a realistic way too. But it's not not being not happening in this way. By the great calling Cam. Yes calling camp. Yeah. A bunch of like great talent in this movie. Like, I it's, you know, just like weird weird. I was like where's Michael Douglas for the right Baldwin role? But alas Alec Baldwin would have been better cashback Alec Baldwin. She only Baldwin who is like legitimately scary thing whereas Billy Baldwin. It's like, it would just be so easy to be like, you know, what I'm just not going to hang out with you anymore. Just I'm not worried about repercussions of that. He can't really get his hooks in I feel like a Rupert Everett. I would like in that role better. Like, I would want like a really gorgeous possibly British person who. British would have been better. I who feels like a pasty indoor kid, but also beautiful like, I don't know. Also, there's just something really confusing about the characters seduction of like approaching her with very aggressive. Listen, do you work out. Come on. She was like what treadmills he's like. No, we're gonna lift weights. And then like drags her down to the gym where she watches him lift weights that when I realized that they were going to go to the gym. I was like yes, Jim scene in nineteen ninety three baby no mirrors November's I was going to do this piece about Equinoxe so important. So it's doing all this research. And there's a piece about like when equinoxes is having its boom in the early nineties. It's like just a wonderful slice of New York in nineteen ninety three. So it was I was into that. Oh, she also gets a telescope or. Yeah. Telescope? Yeah. Those by glass type things in her window somebody gives it is. I mean, it's later admire. Yeah, it's later revealed that it was Billy Baldwin, but she just thinks secret admirer dropped it off. So she's like also staring spying on her. Neighbors a little bit. She has a cocktail party. They watch the neighbors have sex in. It's like, oh, she's into the. Voyeur thing. But in the meantime, another person dies in the building in the the NYU film. Professor guy. Oh, right. Yeah. He dies. Yeah. The film. Professor dies the Cokie fashion designer dies vita vita played by Polly Walker who's really good in things and is kind of good in this. But also like a very strange character. I yeah. Just sort of the lake very high strung artist. I feel like there's a lot in this movie where I mean, I think that one point it had an NC seventeen rating, and then they cut it. But the big thing they cut was naked Billy Baldwin. But it also just feels like they cut out a lot of sort of narrative contact right? Yeah. It is apparent that the vita character is a prostitute. Real it only if you like really listen to like one of her phone conversation. Yes. And then like there's all this stuff where it's sort of hinted that Sharon Stone has just left marriage that was abusive and sometime in year here. Is she pregnant the okay, thank you. There's a part pretty early on in the movie where she before she gets. She she takes the bath the bath a really good bath. A really great bath. She starts stroking her stomach, and like looking depressed in the mirror, and I was like, oh, she's pregnant, and she's also been looking at the party across the way, and she's like very, obviously, not partying. And so I was like, yeah. She's like not drinking, but then she's drinking later at her own cocktail party. So I don't know. I saw that more as like she's already said she's thirty five been in this marriage for seven years. She didn't have a baby. And she's just like, you know, regretting that she's not pregnant as we all by by a holding, Billie. Villi this thing. I don't know. I mean, there's you know, there's a lot of this movie. That's clumsy. And I don't know if it's because of like the necessity to edit it for censorship or for as we'll get to test screening reasons. Yeah. But then there's a lot of stuff that I feel like I appreciate the settle tea, and I don't know if it's intentional or not. But first of all like, the I like, our this movie is incredibly slow European movie. And you're just kind of watching this like, you know, not middle aged, but like slightly older than on new age woman like kind of living her life like exploring what kind of person she is going to be there's like creepy men everywhere. But she's like kind of willing to hear them out in a way that's interesting and exposes who they are more than it exposes who. She is. Yeah. There's just like some interesting stuff with where really does feel like it's it's kind of like a post European update on Hitchcock. And then there's also, you know, like whacky sexing. Yeah. I mean, I really like her character in this. It isn't just one thing. It's like she is just the gal is like works a lot, and is sort of interested in dating, but not in like the super like all consuming, like it's her whole reason for being that she needs to find a man like she's not going to go to a poverty concert. Really long seen about again. That's on the erotic thriller. Bingo. But yeah, like, it seems like she likes her job. It seems like she's pretty successful. She wants to be dating. But she's not really it's not like she's gonna just jump into bed with whoever and Billy Baldwin like their relationship is sorta interesting in that in that kind of nine and a half weeks way where it's like some you. You're kind of through the relationship you're watching somebody figure out like what they're into I. But I think like, obviously, it's leans it's a little less up for interpretation in this film than in nine and a half weeks. But I'm in the thing that we haven't said is that Billy Baldwin like he owns the building. And the reason why that's important is because he has cameras in every room, and he has like a control room, which he brags cost six million dollars for him to Bill in nineteen ninety Bilton Osaka. Yeah. And he's just able to watch every apartment and every room in every apartment at any time. And so after he started having sex with Sharon Stone. He like reveals this to her and at first she is the fascinated by it. And she sits there for like apparently twenty four hours at a time just watching the video eating like it's like all consume all consuming, and I like that just felt to me like, oh, this is when somebody like discovers the internet for the first time. Yes, it is totally like completely changes your perspective on, you know, or I I don't know. It's like it's addictive because it's new, and it's it's a new way of getting information and information that you never had access to before. So it's just like you have no way to stop yourself. You don't have any also her reaction to seeing this is so impassive which is really surprising because you would think that she would be. I mean, she it's revealed. The like he has tapes of you know, the two of them having sex. And he plays it for her. He also later we find out has taped himself having sex with a bunch of other people. He has those tapes underneath his shoes in a little trap door thing. And like some of the stories like we got like a little kind of like plot diversion into a, you know, incest, kind of thing that's going on. It's like, you know, she just her reactions are really subtle to the fact that these like while she's watching all of these different tapes would expect her to be more upset Zeke or want to do something more which is much like we watch, you know, like taking a news on the internet or just like watching right wing through people's lives. It's like this hypnotic thing. Don't really. Yeah. Like, they really. I mean, they really oversell it. I think but like doing this thing where she is just instantly. She'll she does have a first reaction of being horrified and disgusted by this. And try and is about to walk out. And then turns around, and it's like, she stares at the screen, five seconds. Too long is like, oh, yeah. I must watch more right? Which was very I mean. Yeah. It feels. Feels understandable. And I wonder like the reception of this film. I mean the negative reception. And right now, it's like eleven percent on rotten tomatoes or something like that. But I mean about the the far fetched -ness of it or something because I feel like that is less of a problem now that maybe it was in nineteen Ninety-three. Yeah. I I don't really remember what the reception was like like amongst me and like my middle school like the reception was very high. Like, maybe maybe thirteen year olds or the idea for this movie. Yeah. Right. Also, I think it was just like it was post Basic Instinct. Yeah, I think people were expecting kind of a higher level of sophistication in terms of storytelling. Yeah. Basic Instinct was the year before I think Basic Instinct was ninety one. But I knew what maybe two years before I read like a couple of old reviews of it. And I my main problem. So the the crazy thing about this movie is that the ending was chain. Yeah. On original ending was shot. It didn't test. Well, there was also a horrible accident that was involved in the shooting of the first unac-. So the original ending in kind of. And this is the the big spoiler is that Zeke has been killing the people. There are you know, three or four people who've died in one thirteen and he has killed them. And he confesses this to Carly while they're in a helicopter in. Hawaii over a volcano. And then he flies the helicopter into the volcano. Yes. Don't know you don't know whether or not they survive. So basically, this was this was scrapped for two reasons. I guess number one being that the actual helicopter crash thumbing. And so and the pilots licenses revoked I don't know if anyone was hurt or killed like it just seems like a mess, and they destroyed the footage. So, and I guess audience is also had a problem with the fact that they were like, oh Carly like forgives the killer that makes her so, you know, unlikable, I just you know, I hate everyone in the movies. So they're like, okay. Like, let's figure out something else. Now, we'll make Tom Barringer the murderer which makes sense and to some extent because he's just creepy. He's never mandating, but creepy, but here's my issue. And I pressed green on the earlier, but if Zeke Billy Baldwin has been watching these tapes of people, and he claims at one point he's like, I never saw anyone die won the Naomi singer was pushed off her balcony. You know, it's like, maybe they. They frame it as like a suicide. But it seems obvious everyone suspicious. The man is it to people fell in the shower one person falls in the shower. Well, the the old man. Yeah. He tells them the charter, but I get the feeling that that was just like he just had a heart attack or something. But the police are suspicious questioning everyone dying in that building. Right. Could be coincidence. But then the the Cokie models prostitute dies. Yeah. It's just interesting to me that Zeke could be the kind of character who's like people keep tying mysteriously, and I have foot 'age of the entire building. Isn't that weird? Someway, like, no, I'm not going to pursue. Because he never he doesn't even his interest isn't even peaks. And the other reason that that's weird is that he had been having an affair with Naomi singer who also been sleeping with Tom berringer's character. So there was like this weird love triangle in you would think that Zeke would have a suspicion that Tom Barringer had killed her. Right. Because he probably has some insight into her psyche. And yet he never brings up like is time Barringer super creepy. Weirdo. That's never a see. It's just no it doesn't. He talk to Sharon Stone about that though. He is like I don't like that guy. I don't like that says a lot about about Z was after time Barringer was like he's so sick. But so my the only thing I can say in defense of this is that I don't think that Billy Baldwin character would want anyone to know about his video room. So he would never want to produce these tapes because his whole life is about like watching the people in this building. Right. Yeah. And so if he had to admit like how he had this footage like he he would probably go to jail like he'd lose the building. But couldn't he be sneaky. And be like, oh, I see what happened. And now I'm gonna like figure out how to build a case against Tom Barringer. I I don't know we could write a remake. It is that like that that the access to all this stuff that he's recording makes him like completely immoral or like, yeah. Yeah. Like, he he doesn't think about things in that way anymore all becomes entertainment to him. He has this sort of alternate morality like the whole thing about like, the he's watching this father molest his daughter and figures out a way to confront the father and then hells sharing own like like, we'll use will use our voyeurism for good, right? Yeah. Right. Which is like, I don't know. I mean, he's just represents like all of tech culture. Now, we don't need to bring. For his anything. We'll just have a very questionable moderation system in place that may or may not work depending on the whims of the people who are in control of it. Right. Right. And I find this like that aspect of the movie to be absolutely. And the way that it tie it like sort of is perpendicular and like hits up with this stuff of like a woman trying to find herself sexually. I think really good. It's a story of falling in love with with dick. Daddy, data. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. The ending alternate. Anything is is I I don't know. It doesn't really work for me. I was I was totally expecting it to be switcheroo, or it's like the guy you think is creepy along wasn't that creepy. I was expecting. I mean, I was like they wouldn't set up Tom injures character is being this unlikable, and then have him be the person who was doing. This has to be a red herring that what actually happens in the movie that was released is that Sharon Stone like quasi accidentally kills Tom Barringer and then in the video room. She like, basically is like, hey, Billy Baldwin like I haven't eaten could you? Go get takeout, and then he leaves her alone. And she goes into a closet and finds his tapes that like show the time Barringer was the real killer. But then she takes a gun and shoots all of them TV monitors and she says really Baldwin six million dollars set. A what is her Laos lying because it's one of those things lie. Catelli? She says and then hard cut. It's amazing. I laughed out loud. I hold. That is one of the best credit back because I was like is that what she said downing that it plays out that way. It's just funny because that is the most nineties thing about it. I think that's the one that does that feels old is that like that kind of get a life about anybody who's like like video games or into like the or anything like that like computers for nerds. Little did. We know. I mean, like, I kinda wanna watch it again because I feel like I feel like it's got such an odd balance. And I think a lot of it is probably because of that changed ending. I mean town the thing about the volcano. 'cause he does mention to her that he is always wanted to fly into a volcano when she's at his apartment Zeke. Does he has this like creepy glass phallic volcano on his coffee? It's like be without knowing that that's the that was the original ending just towns like a really really strange double on like I'd love to. And yeah, there's all the like do you have like I wrote down all of his messages like to have any body parts that hurt. I miss you. I can still. And then the and then the clip art of the rose part of the rose God. Yeah. No the stuff with the surveillance. Come so late in it that I think like if I was to remix this movie that would come at least halfway through like where she would get involved in it and become the person watching stuff because then that feels like what the movie's actually about in a way feels like a really long time to get there. And then once you get there like, oh, okay. I see what this is all been about. But yeah. But I thought it was I liked it. I yeah. I was into it was definitely belonged in the discuss. Lutely of the erotic thriller before we wrap up. I wanted to ask Grena like how she felt the the kind of erotic thriller, boom like has its place in this history. 'cause I didn't realize how many erotic thrillers just exploded I after fatal attraction, but again Repin that erotic thriller wicked. APD of the Lord's work on. I was like nice over three hundred and meaty closer to five hundred erotic thrillers produced in the nineties. She's like just seems I we have a lot more to you guys to see all the. There's there's levels of highbrow and lowbrow. All right. Yeah. But why do you think like what besides the kind of like VHS direct to video kind of, you know, making that a good movie to watch at home. That's definitely part of it. I mean, I think that if you talk about this the historical trajectory on that competed page, it says at the first Roddick thriller was double indemnity, which I think is incorrect, sir. Like, I certainly like can think of movies that would qualify that came earlier. And also, I feel like the problem with calling double indemnity an erotic thriller is that like it begins with Fred macmurray being like, I know like everything's over. And I'm fucked now, but let me explain to you what happened. And so, you know, like, it's a bad idea for him to hook up with Arbor Stanwick and part of the thing about erotic thrillers. Is that you have to suspend disbelief, and you have there has to be like a portion of the movie where you're like this is hot. But. Yeah. Workout so nine and a half like wildly sexy to like, I was very I saw at somewhat recently. I know is like it's very like. Like not at all veiled in its sexuality. And like, you know, all these ladies phones, those Fred macmurray. It's right. Right. But I think that the reason why they're obviously like weren't as many Radic thrillers until you know, let's say the late sixties into the seventies. Because of the censorship, right? There was code it literally coded ways in what you could have sexuality in films. And especially the way that you'd have to have somebody be punished if they were having marital or extra marital same with with is movies too. They always get punished. Yeah. Don't have a success. Right. I try and play. Right. Right. Right. So and that stuff starts a breakdown in the sixties. And then you also have this wave of filmmakers, I Brian depalma there the first generation of film school or Sinophile American filmmakers who've grown up watching Hitchcock grown up watching films, like, you know, these proto erotic thrillers like film noirs the postman always rings twice things like this. And then Bob ary Fulson like remakes, the postman always rings twice like, you know, even something like Chinatown is like India is a kind of sexier update. Eight of these previous genre films and then moving into the eighties nineties. You have the explosion of the home video market explosion of cable TV and the possibility of being able to get around the rating system by releasing director's cuts aided notions of films, and so you have an incentive to like have a movie that like can be released the as an are. And then have a separate version to get people to pay for it twice. Yeah. Works. Perfect John row for that stage. So is this your favorite one in the in the canon? Would you say or do you have any other other fav-? I mean, this is kind of sentimental favorite say another one that I also remember seeing the movie theater at two young age and went to by myself was indecent proposal. Yeah. I really like Adrian Adrian lines movies. I wish he'd make another one a few years ago. He announced that he was making a movie with Nicole Kidman, and I own my God hope that happens put it out put it out into the on the Airways. Officially like. This is a nature in this house. We respect like that are big time that between fatal attraction and half weeks. Like, we're all in. Yeah. Yeah. I love nine and a half weeks. I love unfaithful. Oh, full so good. I feel like we might have to talk about that. If the psoriatic odyssey. Into the future and another one I just wanted to mention it's a movie that I didn't really like it. I, but has really grown on me over time as in the cut that's your in the cut really like grows on people. They can't really let it go. And then. Yeah, fond of it. I wrote a like a big thing in graduate school about it. And Meg Ryan. And like her kind of using the erotic thriller as a way of changing her persona and comparing that movie to when Harry met Sally where like that persona was like I like fake orgasm. Like, I don't have. I don't have genuine sexual pleasure. And then in the cut is like, you know, she's just like naked with Mark Ruffalo in a very exciting way. Yeah. No. This has been great. 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#739 - Joey Diaz: Struggle is Part of the Journey

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#739 - Joey Diaz: Struggle is Part of the Journey

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Its next given tomorrow be sitting there with a bunch of people looking at them some some years. Go to those Hobo Thanksgiving's when you know nobody and you get that. Nobody's got teeth as one guy that's after nude he's offering this stuff and you need that in your life uh-huh and I'm going to have a little shame the Motley's coming all gay Quigley's coming over these Seychelles family with. It's all about on Thanksgiving Sunday night I was at the comedy store. My Anto conversation really funny. It was funny at first but then I went home and I thought about what had transpired them. What had said and I felt sad? I felt so sad I called Dean del Rey one in the morning really. We talked about now because there was was a conversation about the movie. The joker okay and It was any a couple of guys the back and he was saying how he didn't enjoy the film because it had some type of let the public know that it's okay to shoot people something and then Dan Lonzo Boden was sitting there. You know guy was like he fixed. Airplanes for liberty worth of Boeing and he he made an interesting point when it was on stage. I enjoyed the movie. We but it also let me know how that's every comic. You know that that could happen to every comic you know because of the highs and lows and I went onstage. Got Off when I talked to Whitney and I thought that this guy is Ella Martin and you really forget and I as I was driving blow Oh Canyon. A fact came into my mind that now a lot of people know about diet. Nineteen ninety five to two thousand. I was putting much homeless guys. It was every day was a different story. It's where I ended up what I left bold old June of eighty five ninety five. I'm sorry I left with a cough filled with stop the essentials you know and I yeah pack them up and storage and I thought I was GONNA come back but in my heart. I knew I wasn't coming back to the nobody you're going into Seattle. I was going to Seattle title but I was going to go to this comedy thing. I was going to see what it was really bad. Had A touch of the road already I knew at the road was about had I had featured the club already but now really it was like a sea club I was going to the comedy underground. We know well known club. And I didn't know anybody or whatever and I went up the hand. I'll go with a distributor. You know my dear friend and my name was on the leash. She throw me out every two months and then the what was of somebody's house and then we lived in a trailer. I was her trailer trailer and then I came down here and we broke up like a ninety seven and pretty much from ninety seven. HALF TO TWO THOUSAND I. That was pretty much homeless. Like that would make somebody go. You know how much do I really love comedy I I. I don't think time to get a job and really assess my life and I just had no other choices. I had no other options. I tried everything already. Did any part of you think about going back to sell drugs or oh yeah. The plan was the failure and to go back to New Jersey and just sling slang until I died what that means that me. How far like what what had failure mean to you? If being homeless wasn't Larrea fairly was spinning my wheels which I felt the down inside. I wasn't and actually my instincts were correct spinning my wheels. At least I was getting spots at the store I would go to the store nine five and take a shower or some days. I would go about my day. And then they go back in there about seven fifteen cordless ORLA seven six thirty before the bartenders. Got There and I go in the main room and take another show and I'd be ready for the night you know just thinking about all those things got me so depressed I called Dina because as of two or three years ago you know in Dean start on the podcast. Dean would go in New York and would be basically homeless. He would start every day twelve and go to a coffee shop right jokes and then hit all these open. Mike's and hit some paid gigs. To put some changes pocket and then he would walk around and go on that hotel APP on hotel tonight yet. Tell tonight right and he wait till ten o'clock together room and I I gotta be honest with you in you guys know me then was a lot of nights. I sat there going Schaja. Send them three dollars. Like why is he doing this. And right before I was about to pick up the phone to send the money. It dawned on me that this is what you have to do. This is to sacrifice this is the this proves to you. That what you do this makes you committed into what you're doing you know. I had cons heisman. Love's mega hit couple of them were suicidal. His flock that most people would ice themselves. Also most people would quit. You know one came up in particular with Dean where you know when you start auditioning you get lucky I you know. Knowledge is is not power sometimes going and then not knowing what's going on his way better than dime sometimes you hit the Jackpot none not not even knowing and then when you get smart. You don't Book Dick Right for years once. You know what you're doing you on book nothing and you. Maybe I should go back to what I was doing so so you don't really know but for a year at a manager. That was a real manage. His job was to get you out every day and get you on a TV show and Lee when Atwood that it would all his heart on a daily basis this guy would fight. He was a Phi that Jewish guy. One of those desert Jews short and you you know yarmulke-wearing but man. When he went to work in the morning he went to work? There was nights he would call me at twelve thirty at night. With addition you know I'd be like worst. Extend me I who's paging me. It would be and I'd go what's going on is I just emailed you a script go home read it. You gotta be in there by ten o'clock the more like that type of stuff so for a year I took a beat Lee just going on dishes walking out and saying I got this role and then I wouldn't even have back when right after they will be like. Thank you for coming in. It was so nice. Meaning you we're GONNA come to the store and watch you on that I would you just go into a bag of dicks pretty much and this went on from ninety six eight to about two thousand one. Think of going into things big. Thanks I was gone out. I remember going into ferment. Men Black Damn like I remember going one in for the first one and Gone Rona Kratz. That's her cat. That's a casting agent. Ronan crafts was huge than like. Have you got into see Rohner crash people. Why what do you have is representation? There was three or four people that you could not get in with a because days like the lady who cast by the man to she cast pretty women a bunch of other things. Damn she wouldn't see I don't even know how I got in there the guy that casts. He cast the Walter Hill movies and all of blade. And all those movies Ruben. I forget what his name is. Black Dude Gentlemen of Dude. That's when he used to have the pre. We really used to have to go and read from Assistant. Lift the assistant. Don't you good enough. Then you go home and get a call and go back the the next day and reads the casting director. Jesus than have he likes you. He called you back again. This is one budgets when they will allow budgets to cast cast people like real. Now if you don't anything about casting they cast right MC the sheet might just go down the sheet call. They just put off as allied admission. When I when I first busted up Mike Mike my leg and I was like I don't know if I should go and on and I call them like listen? I'M NOT GONNA make it 'cause I like. Can I put on tape. The audition was four at four forty five. They call back on there. There will be made an offer somebody so they were GonNa make me drive. All Wilshire read even though have made an office right. That's the type of world we live in today back. Then they would. They wouldn't lie. The Mike and that Walter Hill at Walt. The Hill Audition was a movie with bing rains. And Ruben and it was being rains and the guy went go to jail for taxes for blade. Oh yeah okay. It was him and I'll never forget that I swear to God. I must have gone in seven times to read for that Travolta movie seven or eight dollars m lines and they'd give you different line. Same Line sometimes expand the script. Sometimes they give you all. Oh you scenes from the movie so they made sure you read all the scenes and moving you're gonNA handle it. It was just buck wild our memory of the Sopranos and the pay shaking. But my point is the you do. It's tough not to snap. It's tough not the snap as a comic and I that night. I didn't sleep much that night. And because that that's how much effect on me like what I went through to get here like the mud that I went blue to get here. You know how he used to be really hot. This time of the year right now is my time of the year like commercials. Aw Our barnum Arnim right now because this is so capable and it's all so we have to shoot this pilot time and I'll never forget every year during the holidays I made. I couldn't enjoy how they ruined my holidays better yet. I let them run. My holidays holidays because of my weak mind you know when I walk into addition now they do an audition. I Walk I get my college done. It's Donelly it's done and people look at me and go. How do you do that? It's twenty years right. There's no use to take in his home with me but there was a time when you slipped slipped on some of these couch that you need this. This is not a joke you need. This you need is worse than ever and there was one particular time that I came all the way way home because when I read the script I go. I can't see anybody donatus. It was a show of Fox or NBC it was NBC. You know the crazy roommate straight to why guys I forget who the lead was. But I came all all the way off. The road had asleep on a couch. Like I think Ralph was out of town. He took the keys and nobody can go in this. Kill me sleep on the couch Ouch I didn't have a car. My apartment got then. That's what my apartment sleep on his guys couch and from December Mbo like six torture started late December six dot Com. We Wanna read. Joey Diaz went down red came back to days. Later worn region again. Went down there. Read again the WanNa reach again there before guys so how to read with the four all guys they were looking at and see how we looked together in a row went back down. There Redwood each guy individually and the weekend hit went back down there a week later and read new lines and provisions and then went down ad they made me go to Stage we had to do the scene. onstage law okay with the paper in your hand like a little play for a scene they tape that that one on December nineteenth so two weeks ago. Oh my God so for two weeks. My whole life was embroidered in that. Yeah there were other auditions and other stuff and then bull the holidays it. I didn't have nothing. I mean I was passed on December nineteenth furious staring at your phone. How was staring? I would sleep sleep with the pager. I needed this job. This wasn't a job I needed. This whatever the pilot paid fifteen grand whatever the episodes episodes were after that I could care less what they were. This was a my world the and the my dilemma. You know what I'm saying right. Yeah I saw it as a means to an end so when you see things as a means to an end they hurt more. They heard a lot lot more. And I noticed. Get that awaited out from the nineteen th like the fourth or fifth January and that First Morning I called them. I go man. Tell me what's Gonna I wanNA. He goes this has been the worst holiday season. 'cause they called me on the twenty fourth and I go what they say he ghost they that would a black guy so two weeks driving to Orange County none against black guys vibe. Ah But it takes your heart and it just rings it it just rings it you know and you get Intello's and tells shots. AH STORM WITH STEVE runners. Easy coming up to me like what the business is on them. Bobby Lee all those guys. We all went through a patch where you really start to test just have tried to not tested but you start to question it like what am I doing what am I doing then you go home. Pick up the pieces and they want the next day and you know you you hurt when you hit you get the row you hurt and then you know what the crazy thing is all that pain that you went through and all that anguish. The show gets made it gets picked up you curse it. You're cursing at the whole time. Talk You I hope you fail ensuring up the six episodes in the show L. Gets cancelled right and you feel so much better now. You're like you know why so. I've learned over the years at the roles. I didn't get like they didn't matter like once you know are really mad. They once did with done. But it's easier looking at it twenty years later because like I've thought about this like about the joker I mean. Obviously we're in comedy and stand up in acting but something that I've come to realize as I've gotten older I used to look like remember. Remember when Martin Lawrence ran down the street crazy while he's had the older I get I'm like I can see how just you can have be having a bad couple of weeks and one guy like cuts you off on the freeway. And he just like. I could see that happening a lot more clearly now like when people. I don't remember number planner jobs. And that's the same thing you know. Hear back from them they they they have you come interview and you you drive all the way down. The interview takes three minutes or the person show up for an hour. That's like I. I used to think crazy people were crazing. Some of them are but I think there's there's some things that you could just snap. I think it's easier than it could be. I could lie to you. People tell you not that I know there are three times I was GonNa snap and I know about times that I did snap because of a situation and I went off on somebody else about something else because that initial situation which is do what so angry that we got towed. Our brother mccalls assist you coming home for Thanksgiving the go. How talking because you went out of line you were out of line? I could see myself. You know having watched the joke yet I am WANNA watch it. I just didn't want to go to movies and stuff and I didn't have time that week and the whole thing. I am going going to watch when it comes on. A plane is someone I could watch a movie and that was. It was just really hard to swallow what mine feels. I walked through the get here like that night. Made me realize and again I go back a conversation that I've discussed on the podcast. Ask before you know. My only conversation ebb would slash was at the Ruby Erin and he was like a you. Happy in your life now and I'm like I'm happy in owning a broken remember. Breath is going to be the best time your life because when you get the big checks you look at this time and you even understand why you got those checks when you start selling out like a club or something like that. You don't have to doubt yourself a while people start doubting themselves they really do. They tried to What's that word now camouflaged? Try to you know. Like bombard their own success they stand in the self sabotage they self sabotage themselves. Because they don't think they should be. They deserve what they're doing. But that night really made me go. Oh okay like that like I really lost sleep over it I. I couldn't wait to do the podcast to talk about this. And like I said I haven't called Dean and dean was like I don't think people know that Dean did three years he he did. I think he said nine hundred gigs. On a motorcycle he goes. I drove to San Diego and he goes. I drove as far as Portland Oregon. Motorcycle do a spot and he could tell you right now. I wouldn't do it again. I don't know what our our thinking at the time but that's the process you know. That's the dog. There were plenty of times when when I went home and said this is it. I'm not doing this. Well I mean you and dean have something to a small extent me because I started twenty nine which is old but not super bowl. Bodine started at fifty. I can't imagine being fifty an open. Mike with twenty one year olds he was. What is it a forty-six and you were thirty? Something I think I was twenty. Nine thousand nine hundred okay. So it was nineteen ninety-three would make me thirty so nineteen ninety-one. I was twenty first time I got on stage. I was almost twenty eight days of age. It's I immaculate. Starting forty six at life experiences. I didn't have the heart. Talk about him onstage. I wanted them like a play. I didn't start talking about prison. Tone the PODCAST podcast. Or maybe Joe. Rogan's podcast yeah. I wouldn't talk about it. I had a comedy show at all. It's got nothing to do with. What's the price tags? How wrong was I? It's got everything to do with the price eggs but it's really real ones. Oh said that night how this so domini highs and this so many lows I mean you could be opening up for Thomson Geron Saturday night and come home monoplane on a private plane or and then the following for you're getting in a car and driving driving the San Jose for feature money and driving back Sunday night which is six hours and you're in the car going. Last last week I was in a private plane. Most is Thompson Gora and this week. I'm driving to San Jose my car which belly's not gonNA make make like I've gotten cars. I knew wasn't GonNa make you ever do that like it. If it makes it it's GonNa be a miracle not the feature actors behind meal the MC and he'll pick me up. I'll just abandon ship on the road cheese. I had a shitty car but I didn't take long trips like that. We don't this parlor you change. The oil changed at all filter. You put that thing in the radiators radiators or won't blow and the old school 'cause you put these plugs aluminum plugs out your thing wouldn't leak and it's just the price you pay. I sit I sit here now and I go now. I did things that will completely out of my realm that I would not even consider it but I have a hard time going to some eleven. Eleven o'clock juice like seriously like if I'm at home with Mike eleven o'clock that's scary. Maybe I'll go to the one by the open mic over there like that one. I'll go in. There might not because I you see those people and if you go to the one over here you got homeless Johnny. You got no legs. The one that we put the light beams and arrived balls at ninety is giving us the finger Eh. You know. I'm the debt yeah. I'm scared that you know there was a time when I lived. Do Comedy because they would feed me like I was in great shape. All you were standing bowl. Yeah because I had I was really. What was that Iran? All the Kito Hito no the other one. The low carb. No the other one occasional starvation intimate fasting. Yeah I was intimate and faster than ninety five I I was intimate fast and from ninety five th mccarroll strip. She started feeding me stuff like that. My life was all a modern thing. Fasting I would look at a p I would either sandwich wrap up the rap from the rap ringo unwilling to see one of these again but we'll figure it out you know jumping over a counter for a pack of cigarettes Denver International Airport and going into the bathroom and smoke. Welcome 'cause you don't have any money for cigarettes. Thousands of these stories. You know taking that bus I live. Nellie Graham Buzz on the East Coast live up and down Buffalo Syracuse. You Know Rochester. Toronto back the South Carolina Myrtle beach back. Canoe York Philadelphia DC. It was just crazy standing on the bus. Stop three hours from three thirty in the morning to seventy bus comes talk with three dollars in your pocket. There's different levels to me like that to me. Sounds like kind of exciting. I mean obviously for years at a time I can see how it would not not be cool to me now. That sounds kind of exciting but the whole like I. It just doesn't make sense in my head to not have money to eat pretty fucking what you picked up money that night after you. Do you really really really WANNA do. Okay Okay so you knew you had something. Yeah I got three dollars. But I'm on my way to a weekend gig the pickups three hundred dollars it's still not going to be Oh Jeddah millionaire. Don't get me wrong by the time I get paid. I'm taking one hundred thirty and draws for a bag of weed and a little taste. I was GONNA say 'cause usually paid at the end so you'd go up to be like. Oh no you just tell them the truth you know what on the way up every my standard line was I lost my the m-code okay. Everywhere I went. I love my team cod and we you were. I went should as I got to the club if they should go to the hotel to hotel that the war would start. Do you have a credit card. I don't get lost on the plane. So how are we going to check. I don't know it's called the club that would have to call the club but Colombo will have to come and we'll give them the credit card number over the phone own and then he would call me and I down the star. I don't have a credit card. I haven't eaten in the morning. Okay but get dinner at the hotel. And PALOMA TAB AB it'd be the worst dinner in the world but what like that it would be in an I'm lying here. Wouldn't be those type held house. They'll be like motel six by EH potato chips in the hallway and then down the corner. It'd be like a really bad hamburgers spot. You know like stuff like that and I would have to. He would come and bring me cash drop. Drop me off and having to walk back like a half a mile to my room and then wait an abuse cycle. He was just a cycle of abuse. But what I was working and that's all that matter that I was working every weekend I was picking up. Tuesday's picking on Thursdays is that is that that part of it. Because I think when I went with Simone I made in the guy gave me a bonus but 'cause I drove but I I was supposed to make three seventy five going to give me four seventy five something like that for like four days a work but it really is so much fun like especially when you're on like you're there for the weekend you do now you hang out with your buddies. You're working in a couple of hours at night. Making people laugh like is that why you go through so much shit because it's not like you're at a job like on at the cubicle. One day comes to you that society doesn't work view. Society doesn't Uffizi bobbling sits at a desk all day. bobbling sweetheart I know. He makes good money account. But as Bob if he'd I'd like to get out of that job you know and then have fun goof around but everybody has. Their priorities has a family. You know your father pushes you into a direction you know. Your father is going to be a lawyer like me and then you realize you're miserable one day when you when you first discovered comedy I all right you discovered okay you watch it but then you get involved with it but then you take that extra level like I was involved with for two years and it was fun like you know. Oh my eyes are wide open. I didn't say much. And by the three M Mark I started understanding what was going on around me I was getting used to the rejection. You know is is people. I'm going to book your call. That number all the number you know you start realizing the com- these a lot like life. There's no big differences as the people who a piece of garbage and there's people who great people who open hearts and the hands to you and you know give you whatever the hell you need. Why Wii there? It's really weird you know. And I've said it before that commitment and confidence in the universe as long as you're doing what you're supposed to be doing you'll see it. I see I still see. I still see little bits and pieces as long as you know. You're doing the job you know. Last night I was home was Monday night. Whatever it was? Yeah Monday night and my wife wasn't feeling well she went to bed. At eight o'clock I could could sit down and watch TV. I know you call them but I was need deepen Vietnam style. I was getting plane tickets. It wasn't males I was. You know it's it's just so weird that I the work ethic nick. I'm very proud of my work ethic. I'm I'm it's a shame my mother died and it's a shame that it's been forty years. I I miss her and her anniversary was delayed but I was soft. I was very very soft and the events that happened. Made me step up like made me step up and made me do things said I never thought I would do. I never thought I'd WanNa do back to your question question. You know the third fourth year of comedy. It really is a party. It really is fun once. You've established that a this is what you're going to be. You got yourself a little telemarketing job in the daytime just covering now when you bills j just coming bills you know why because that's all you want that's who you got five hours a day for something else. Those another nineteen hours. You dedicate comedy you eat sleep and dream comedy before you go to bed. You're circling clubs. You WanNA play. You're writing your goal. You we know you want like like I still remember the the confusion I lived in when I was in boulder ninety five from January and ninety five to the June ninety five when I knew hours fighting an uphill battle I knew I was fighting an uphill battle but then number two. I realize that I was GONNA lose the battle at one point. You do realize you lose the battle and I lost a battle. I made a decision I did try to do the best I can listen. You know what I try to do the best I can. I made on top on that deal. I lost a daughter but I made on top on that deal. Okay let let's wants to for what inspired year accommodate comes you get rejected but it's falling off your shows because you've been getting rejected now for two or three years ninety nine feel the thing. is you go out. You picking up twenty five bucks and get into to drink drink tickets and you're GONNA get the bartender ten and drink for free the rest of the night and he got three bodies two little comedy girlfriends and then married. But they're out you know. This is a year. You'll say we got separated. He doesn't like me hanging out at night but that's what people will get divorced comedy. Yeah they will get divorced divorced Takami once you get that bug. You'll lose people along the way constantly because they can't handle what you do. How you do it your lifestyle your lifestyle becomes different? You ever see Major League camera. Forget this when the opening on the opening scenes means of major league and they're calling around looking for players right and they called Tom Barringer and he drives down he picks up. The phone is calling this to naked chicks next. All I saw that movie before I start doing triple runs and in my head. I equated that to a triple run. That's what I'm GONNA be doing. That's not what I was doing. That was not one that I picked up two girls back to a room but I quitted that because I I had done my research I had spoken to the comics and the comics I had spoken to you know. Rogan made a point one day today it was like you know how many doctors and lawyers other and how many comedians you know you have to think about how crazy you have to be to get into comedy okay. How crazy you have to be? I would love for them to publish like charts. But they can't do. It's like the census like what they go looking for homeless people when they see only people living in the bushes. Get the exact population. You'll never get these act. Population comics because comedies. Lau thank you get people do it for three months. You get people for nine months to do a free year if you read it for a year you. AM stay in it for five or six years five or six. When you go? I met a girl and the real the road anyway. Thousand Comics looked at me and said I love comedy until I had to take a plane the drive see. That's the most fun part. That's the most fun part. So that's what I'm saying the trouser. I'm working to slow you working towards so there's a lot of people have come to me and said this is not. I'M GONNA do it but I'm not going to go on the road I'm going to do it locally. Get a day job marry right now. We have a family. That's the beauty about. Don't comment you get to choose the way of comedy you WanNa do. It could be a hobby or could be some people people who this is not again. I've said it again. This was not my original plan and my original plan was not ever even come away. Because I don't I wouldn't be he could not be no me having felonies and all the other things. It just wouldn't begin now but anyway I just wanted to reiterate to you people that finally after years I've convinced myself thanks to you people and thanks to their feedback and the emails and whatnot. I really really have. They really go through a minefield to become a comic. You really really really wasn't minefield. You know and like I told being again I go dean honestly. There was nightline. Talk to you like seven o'clock and you tell me that you headed to the east side comedy club than added to spots at the cellar and hopefully by that time you'll find out if you got a hotel room and I would go out and go well while I send him money. What am I going you know? I'm a good guy I would go. No this is part of the plan. This is part of the fun. This is his whole. You know what happens if you do go to comedy solid and you meet a girl. And she's like come back to my place and he stayed there for a week. You know. That's the adventure ensure that you looking to get but if you don't go out there and look for it it's never gonNA come to you. It's not the blueberry too happy not knock on your door it's so weed out. A couple of weird things happened. The last two days Monday with my ten year anniversary with my wife and today it was my last doctor's appointment with Dr to twenty one years. What's one doctor wax my retiring or something? My family doctor of twenty twenty one years the guy that reintroduced to the needle because I would not take a needle he convinced me draw blood. He convince me to do physicals he put the finger up. My as. I'm surprised you're not making him. Not Retired is free like listen. You can retire but he did his job. He was a very very very good doctor to me and I want to applaud him. He told me to stay out of their mouth facebook. I gave him a hug at brought him a gift to you know he he. He reminded me of the time I gave them a cookie. And trump mentioned in there was no. You didn't yes I did. And he put it in his freezer in the like a day later and he started getting all these these low motions of love and It was just really interesting to go down and give them a hug and you know he left a note for my nice doctor. Don't bother them with needles. He's not GonNa do it. I've been trying to talk about his shot before you know. Do I love to get him on the policy. Get Him to give blood in the mornings. He needs to win. I gave blood this afternoon. I did a podcast with mercy. This my daughter's in studio. She's got earphones on them. She's got air phones on the podcast certainly about science we we we do what you do one every Tuesday. It's called science of mercy. And you know this morning while I was taping podcast. I was actually preparing to give blood and she stopped at gas to ask me that. You don't and I'm like I gotta go for a physical and I gotta give. I normally have to give them blood so I might as well practice practice. I put my arm out getting raped. uh-huh I tried to get raped so climbing on top of me rape and being. I can't wish with my other hand because when I give blood. That's exactly what I feel. I let myself feel restless. Won't give the blood by have to put my arm out and go take me. I'm yours if it's not gonNA work. I'd love to live an hour in your brain. This idea well. Listen my fear of needles. Gran Dan rampant rampant for years and really really need to know. beat you out. 'cause you you go I I mean I was a guy that didn't refuse to go to a doctor from the age of nineteen. Jesus -Ly I think at least ten years used to go to a dentist fifteen years scared of needles. If anybody said anything about a needle I just instantly froze up I met Wexler. It took me a little time. I started giving him one blood thing a year and I would faint then. They figured out they put me in a room windows windows they price on my head and tipping over and they said bring music and Bro. I worked myself up from going into. I wouldn't have to bring a sandwich and a can of soda. What all guys come on? I'm scared of all that stuff. I was the biggest fag in the world. I would go there with a chip. The power take cannock avocado replenish to sugar sugar. Me and I'd bring a donut to blood. That was my that was my that was my president and then I driving a car and go to losing breakfast after the Sandwich Donna. Oh Yeah you know me. Four hundred pounds. Get there because you only one so this is out great. You know when you go. You can't eat before you go give blood right. Are you crazy that killed. I can't leave the house allowed eating. I get dizzy busy when I'm driving I would have to drive. Have my wife drive me down there. I'd be crying the whole way around. You have no idea what I suffered those. I five years I'll never forget what the sleep apnea like. I had a call him and get his word. That had nothing to do with a needle sleep at me. He's worried about uh and I get no needles so I went down there stuff when I was when I was like no you a six. I was growing. I was a thirty year old adult close hidden hours winds no needles. You figure when I first went into waxed where I had August thirty something years old first time I went to. I didn't even know I had wax surveillance to me. I went to the emergency room for my tooth because I had that you know I used to take make my pizza with Jack Daniel and a wrench I pull my Melissa but one mole of broke and it stayed in abscess and it would swell up and I would push in. Pus would come out and if I was at the comedy store around people. I didn't like I'll push back on my toot puzzle shootout and had him on there. And that Jack is only Josh. Woven Joe Rogan Organ Noonday. Love when I did it to be Joe. Please go get that to fix creep me out now. I love it my pulse shooter. I just shoot puzzle people people with the tooth. It was like a little Fang hanging out of that. I finally Steve Simone Brothers dentist. Yeah he took it out and put the freight teeth. Their hoskin finally went to St Johns brought. His brother was my dog. I go in there with a phony insurance claim the type of whatever had a bunch of allegedly allegedly at the point you Philippine trying to sell me on stuff and they being the back. Don't do it. Oh my God Steve Simone but it was my dentist for a years down in Santa Monica they left me and I was pissed at Steve because he left me that fifteen hundred left on my to plan on the insurance I was GONNA go down there but when I went down. He wasn't Dan. I'm sorry loss of fifteen hundred on my fucking teeth. I was pissed Steve like six months. Where's your fucking brother? He goes on untying and he moved back to Philadelphia. Nobody told me what type dentist disease doesn't even send you a postcard to let you know he's retirement. I'm surprise you didn't go to Philly and get them to furious Adam. I just recently started telling Steve about his brother is on the dentist is doing because this tooth is worked. It stayed there a solid seven. That peace has been this lifetime guarantee you. People don't care about lifetime guarantees. I saw as the anniversary was concerned Monday. I knew that it was iron adversity. It was our ten year anniversary. Then I went somewhere in the morning when I got home. My phone started ringing people. Happy Anniversary I'm on facebook and my wife had posted. The picture thing married this guy. Ten years ago you know and I started crying like not that I have forgotten Zeina versus. I just started crying because I accomplished something even today with Dr Wax. If you knew anything about me I was Tampa Agai with quitted doctor. You know I would quit things like nothing. I hung out with Dr Wax so for twenty one years I haven't been approached by a thousand doctors come over here. Hey come up wax was just my dog Chicago dog every time he goes to Chicago he brings back meet and the Bundy freezes him and he says he wakes up in the bill might some nights and puts them cook some nice themes the brady with Tommy steamed bread perfectly with paper towel and stuff we just a great doctor and a great a guy so I just wanted to thank him. But what a Lotta people now is like. I was telling you yesterday when I was a kid. There was a barbecue joint on high. I'm forty eight th street and they had a guy we went to NAM bought barbecue beef. I don't know anything about you know brisket brisket. I didn't know anything about ribs that I know about Chinese ribs. You know my mom always got spare ribs. What barbecue really was? I must've must've been five or six and I would go in every day. Whatever I want to my godmother's house one hundred forty eight this barbecue joint which is a small little place and their specialty was barbecue sandwiches in two pieces of wonder bread and it was just deliciously intermediate between and God knows what was eating cat fingernails? Do you know it was the seventies. They wasn't the health department. They gave you the best of what they got. You know but the guy was African American guy. I took a like them to him. In fact he houston. Let us help him work. You know which was nice he would tell gs. Go St when you're in New York and you see those things go down underneath the business. He let him even let us carry stuff in trade. Put them food and stuff but he used to always say an expression and I never know what he was saying. It was called Till the wheels fall I'll bid to the wheels fall off. I see the MOM is dismantling. I don't know if that was name he'd go. I'll be hit. The wheels fall off and one day I asked him like what does that mean. He's like when the wheels fall. I was me jaw in baby. y'All in you all in and he goes you see the way you guys hang out together you guys looking to hang out onto the wheels fall sit became like a state of mind to me to the wheels fall off means that I got. I got you bro. You know what I'm saying like this is it we're friends. For Life I got you twenty Puerto Ricans show. I got to fly them with your back to back and you have to do the same for me. Don't think that this is one way fucking street and sometimes it is and then you stop live with those people like that. But it's really weird that that's what since in grave inside our wedding matt to the wheels fall off to you know hug when good on health. Whatever you know to the wheels fall off is something that we live by his so weird that it's already thanksgiving US listened? It's already Thanksgiving and something else is happening. The year is coming to an end. It's officially over like you'd think that something you might hit the lottery that's GonNa happen you might at the lottery. Maybe if all the angels alive but besides that you know you might pluck job right now. Everything dies people after the after December seventh eighth. Everybody's talking about Jingle Bells Jingle Bells and Christmas on where they going I'm already thinking in about twenty twenty. I'm already thinking of my goals. I'm already thinking about what I wanna do with my life. What things I have the perk up? I really gotTa get this book you You know as much as Iran. I gotTa get this book off the shelf. Not It's it's going to have to do so many things to lately. I talked about the podcast about maybe take a musical musical so he can put it on spotify. You know it's November and I'm already looking at twenty twenty. I advise you to do the same. Listen she is over with whatever happened APP whether there is a good year a bad year you lived through it. You made it you hear now. You have to see how we're GONNA get benefit twenty twenty. You know I'm going to get better in twenty twenty leasing. Be a little bit better than what he is now. Twenty twenty my daughter's it'd be a little bit better than what she is and I'm count on the Church family to all Strive to be better and twenty twenty and joe a tease if you said no. It's easy I don't want you to go from hero to zero. Aw One zero to hero. I just wanted to take to baby steps. It's one foot at a time to get there. You go whatever you go my be want to be a DJ. You WANNA A B A fighter. You WanNa switch careers you know. We talk a lot about Switching careers it's not switching careers. It's going for what you love. It'll make your life a lot easier going for what you love may show life a lot easier. You know we all sixty percent of people have a job. We don't like what the fuck were doing. It's very it's very seldom. That people really enjoy the job and they'll look at what they're making a year like I don't I don't I don't even care what I'm making A. Yeah Yeah I really enjoy what the Hell I'm doing. If I was doing was looking for real money I would have just joined narcos. Feel looking for that type of money. Just go to Mexico a going out with those moments and bring back coke. I don't know what to tell you. That's real money. What you're looking for is just to be content? We proud of what you're doing. You know I tell you man for years. I lived in disgust of myself. Frustration disgust wasn't talk. Maybe we'll add mercy that I started seeing the light because now had act a certain way you know and This show I'll be at my wife twenty years. We celebrate the ten year wedding anniversary Monday. And I gotTa tell you man. I never thought I could accomplish. After I failed as a husband. The first time marriage was no blasting on my mind and for me to be married for ten years. You know I'd like to tell you guys I found route woman. That's excuse me all give us. We found the right woman now. We decided to fight for what we believe for. The first woman I was married for was very are we sweet girl but she went through four or five six years. A hell with me you know and you know what when I was away the even towards the end there was no future. This is how this is how much of a change I mean there was no future had no future I was just GonNa be a working stiff and God knows what I was GonNa do. Every three months I was going to change because I wasn't content when I was doing forget all that. Listen Man I got into comedy and its till the wheels fall off. And that's it. That's all I at the tell you guys this is going to be a short Thanksgiving podcast. Mercy Dee as talked to you on you WANNA sit with us for five minutes. You don't want to say hello all the people and Tom About Yours. Scientists mercy okay. She's Good Ladies and gentlemen they have it there you have it. She didn't Wanna the town but at least I brought. I brought it to the office. She wanted to see what I did. She does her own podcast so I told her that this is what we need to do. In this hour. We do what she's been doing. She's up to podcast number radio ready for her. And she's only taken the week of the thirtieth off Mike. We all tried to take a birthday we asked she's like I don't WanNa do it the week before you do it every week. This is called consistency. There's no days off. You want something happened. You got to be consistent. That's planet simple. You want something to happen. You gotta be consistent every day. Look at this guy come crumble. He wants a war. He keeps sending out missiles trump's over there scratching. There's a wig going on now now. We're we're friends. Get this guy still shooting off fireworks July over that King Young Moon. You know whatever's God that names that's all right I'll go with politics. Go with. That's the president is tweeting this tweet. They living begging for trump to be back up. Please forget about it. I'm a savage. I give it to you how others but anyway I if you travel and be safe this weekend member thanksgiving. This is a a a hallmark card. Tomorrow Thanksgiving this tomorrow. Please enjoy your family's stuff but one day thanksgiving. There's every day because when you're piston seven in the morning when you wake up if you're not saying God thank you. Forgive me another day later to get a little bit. You're talking missing the boat. I give the. I'm one of the most grateful people there is. I'm grateful for my shoelaces. I'm grateful for the weed I smoke. I'm grateful for everything because I knew there was a time when I was homeless. Is How and I had nothing five years without a residence I wanted people to do and then before that I had had you know. 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Forgotten Heroes of Baseball II

Forgotten Heroes Podcast

20:11 min | 5 months ago

Forgotten Heroes of Baseball II

"Good world to you citizens of humanity. I'm Jeff Israel joined via satellite by Mark Fusco and this is the forgotten heroes podcast. This week we're bringing you humor for the humorless love for the love. Lorn and baseball for the baseball starved high pockets. Kelly had not only one of the greatest nicknames of all time but one of the greatest months of April in the history of baseball in nineteen twenty one and Mark Fusco brings you the story of the cancelled. Nineteen reminding us all it while something might be cancelled. Today the mets could still win the world series in sixty five years. So grab your tickets a hotdog. Big Pretzel Your Glove. Your Kitty's your wives. Your husband's these are the forgotten heroes of baseball part two So I was looking into people who have had the best. April's of all time in baseball Now it was a bit of a challenge because the earlier players had obviously if you're games so you couldn't. April wasn't a fully fleshed out month back in the old days. Yeah they still call that. Haffey STA had six days. Yeah and really long and we walked each one in the freezing cold freely all. They had fewer days of the season. Fucking serious serious. Listen we're talking about a guy named forgotten hero. I forgot here of best. April's is a young man named high pockets. Kelly I- pockets Kelly. So high pockets Kelly where it was difficult finding information on why that was his nickname. I assume it was self explanatory because he had his pockets high on his uniform. I don't know who's also nicknamed long. George I heard you got that one from his girlfriend's just kidding folks so yeah he was. The guy like wally paid. Oh it's because he's tall. Yeah Wally pipped obviously The famous story He called in with a headache. One day to the Yankees and this little unknown named Lou Gehrig women and while he became a verb meaning to be dumb. Take a day off and get replaced by an all time great So if you're in a job say at a like Delhi and you're like you know what I don't WanNa come in today guy. New Guy Young kid comes in just right. He's he does the sauce on the chicken. Parm hero rate. He likes slices all the meat. Or whatever. I don't need a lot of sandwiches So yes while pips them and so while he pipped hilariously. Wally pipped again in Cincinnati. By this guy high pockets Kelly but that was later in his career. We're GonNa talk about his nineteen twenty one season. Which in which he won the world series the giants. It was April which is really impressed. Won The world series Getting the season he led the National League in home runs. I mean he was great And despite playing in only fifteen games in that April six homers three triples twenty two doubles no twenty two twenty two doubles would be. I think it'd be at twenty two doubles in fifteen games mean. It's pockets were full of steroids e because if he called yeah I mean he hit four hundred. Of course everyone did in nineteen twenty. One Didn't have four hundred dollars a league but I mean there was with a slugging percentage of nine twenty So that you know on baseball people that is well. We'll be into now to this. I'm just anyway Slugging percentage is hard. You hit the ball. I mean is nine twenty good. And what's sort of impressive about that is that he still has the thirteenth highest ups. In April. That's on base. Plus slugging percentage which is generally used as a measure of essentially. How good are you at offense? Ever so he has the thirteenth highest ever Oprah's in a in the medieval lit- among our many tens of thousands of players however through the steroid era through Barry Bonds. You had a super high. Oh P s all that stuff he's still thirteenth Impressive FOR INSTANCE BABE. Ruth is where on any of those charts Proving that high pockets. Kelly was better than Babe. Ruth which is a common tired in April Babe. Ruth was hungover in April. Still losing those extra thirty pounds from barnstorming which well keep that for babe. Ruth comes up again in nineteen twenty to the twenties. Were Big April decade. A lot of great April's in the twenty s So other things hypothesis. Kelly did during that April. Is he set a record of eight consecutive games to start the season with a hit and RBI Which was brought to you know who is broken by it. Lasted all the way until twenty ten. you're never. GonNa get it. I'm GONNA say Todd. I think. Todd zeal was starring in dirty deeds at that point which is a true fact. You can look it up the movie dirty deeds with Todd. Zeal directed it to I don't know He plays a bum. He has like stubble. It's pretty funny. That could actually be. Its own forgotten. Here no poor. Hey Ken to that great players in two years but he'd call him so anyway And those to the twenty two. Rbi's pockets. Kelly got still ranks twenty sixth all-time and every single person ahead of them has at least ten more plate appearances. That's another thing to remember. He had only fifteen games in April. A lot of these people had a lot more so anyway high pockets. Kelly was really good but bill. James and a bunch of bloggers following Bill James Refer to Kelly as the worst player in the hall of fame. Because he wasn't even know it looks like he would have won a couple of gold gloves. His career numbers aren't really there and he was elected by the Veterans Committee in a year. When like three of the members were his former giants. Teammates did a controversy there. It's kind of like how people think that's how Derek jeter got elected because all of the voters where Yankees players. That's not true at all. Different player voted against him. Many people say that about Geeder. Everyone's saying trump and everyone else so hi. Kelly was a little interesting after that he There was a story whereas manager tried to pay the athletics infielder shortstop five hundred dollars to throw the world series and the shortstop said no obviously and reported into mountain landis and they got thrown into baseball but then the shortstop and the guy on the giants who Who asked him to through? The game started a basketball league and high pockets took a year off to go play basketball with them. Well this is the time when it was only white men playing basketball. Yeah well I really doubt that league lasted it. Didn't he came back to baseball the next year but also baseball wasn't paying that much so he did a Michael Jordan. S thing wasn't good. It was actually the first ever based versus reverse based it was like one of those old grainy black and white videos. All of the aliens were Little Lake. Muppet things they will enter. Titles Oh no that would be fun. I believe I can fly the Hindenburg. Yeah good one Jeff Timely. Anyway he eventually died as men do in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. He followed up his amazing nineteen twenty one April campaign. He had forced sixty for the next April. Which is still the eighth best mark of all time okay. Let's talk about baseball. Whoo put me in coach I was fascinated by this. I was thinking about how we're going to have the baseball season's going to be delayed for sure They're talking about crazy stuff like a games. Being played. An empty stadiums The Yankees home only not playing in New York and playing the fucking Devil Rays Stadium. That's an idea that's been floated out so this season to say the least is going to be unique as hell world series might be in early. December. Well yeah I mean I was talking to a specialist about this recently and we were hit him in a what specialist. When did you make an appointment and you went to go? See these balls specialist. It was just someone in my mind because we can't ever escape. I've created several specialists that I can talk to my mind As as we wait through this certain events occurring now but Yeah we were just saying I was just saying my God. We were just saying that they're going to run out of warm months. So this continues for a while There I don't even know if they're gonNA they're gonNA have a season but hopefully they do. Yes if they do have a season it's going to indeed be one of the weirdest seasons of all and things are going to be. Wonky as hell so I was like I was interested in. When was the time that things got wonky in the past Of course he's been disrupted for strikes when millionaires wanted more millions of dollars. That's interesting at all so you have to go kind of far back to find a time. When a part of the season was just like cancelled and what I found was the second ever world series was just cancelled so in nineteen o four the world series that was supposed to John McGraw. The giants manager infamous player and then manager. I'll give background on this. But like yeah basically. The headline is nine hundred four. His team won the NFL and Boston won the ail. And he's like we're not gonNA play the world series. We're not I'M NOT GONNA have my team play a fake team. So because they didn't want the American yeah so he just cancelled the world series. I don't understand that the same to me and that leads me to some of the background because nine thousand three world series was very very popular. Wasn't even called the world series until it was over because it was extra exhibition series between Boston and Pittsburgh and it was a nine game series and the crowds were so big that They had they had people spilling out in like standing on the field and they put a rope to sort of separate the fans from the players but the separation was pretty thin. And this is the weirdest thing stat. Wise this really boosted some people stats. If you hit a ball into the outfield. That went on the other side of the rope. Then it was called a ground rule. Triple now that I mean that. Sounds like a wiffle ball rule that we would have when we were playing central park but And you would think okay. Well this is an oddity like maybe it wasn't that big of a factor in four games. There were seventeen ground rule. Triples totally changed the game. So that's why they no longer have ropes outfield at Major League Games today. But this is great. I mean people yeah. People were going onto the field and arguing getting in arguments with players. I mean this is just like so far from the reality we live. We should bring that back though. You'd like pitcher. Gives UP. A home run us. I'd like to have a discussion with you sir. Yeah calls to the mat like mount extra mound visits for fans. Oh man don't even don't even joke. It's definitely become like fans in the stadium. Maybe which is nuts but the Boston Boston actually won that first exhibition series. The Boston fans were some people by some accounts. Even players accounts on Pittsburgh they blame. They said like the fans won. The game. Boston fans were imagined so obnoxious and as a so hard to imagine that Boston fans can be so loud and obnoxious with their Cutting chance like They would sing songs. One of them was honus. Wagner honus why did you hit so bad and it just cut to his heart and they kept saying it and you know they fucked them up the nest. Pittsburgh went down So that was the first world series and so the AL was this thing that was also just like invented by a former sports writer and businessman His name was Bain. Wait now. Not Being Dame Edna's Batman before wait for Jan Johnson. Yeah Oh yeah yeah. So basically Bain and he was really really egotistical the way he got the AL to become a thing is he lifted there was a salary cap in the NFL and he was like well. There's no salary cap in the mail. We'll just pay players a lot of money so it got cy young over to the Al. It Got John McGraw. This guy who then turned around and hated the Al. He was one of the very first people to come and play in the AL And then he had a very contentious relationship with Johnson. And that's why it's crazy. Oh no the guy who came up the world series. What McGraw right? Yeah exactly the. Al Was this upstart league. They drew five hundred thousand more fans in nineteen to than the NFL In the also the highlanders to to make matters worse for McGraw at this point. Now McGraw's back in the NFL with the giants and then the AL just to like get pissed him off creates another New York team. You know the giants were the only New York team and so the highlanders get created and this really makes us get in McGraw's Craw so nice job. Thanks Jeff Style joke. Meaning it's terrible but it's kind of like spite war. Basically it was like spite league kind of and then turned into spike cancellation of the world. Series so you get to the Nineteen O. Four season and Boston is done well. The giants have done well. And it's time for this series that was known as the world series in McGraw. Just like I'm not doing this. This absurd challenge from a lot of nobody's will be ignored. He said wow boy was he wrong the also he robbed his players. Players could have made a thousand dollars each for being in the series and a thousand dollars was like half the average salary for the whole year so he was just robbed all his players that extra money to just a fuck Johnson over and then of course it didn't work. He was like this ails. Not The real league and they will never be. He also said famously. They'll never be a series between two New York Baseball Teams. That will never happen. Never be a championship series or a world series between two teams from the same city. So he wasn't a great. That's kind of an insult to the dodgers to. Yeah Yeah. He wasn't a great progress address. What the Brooklyn Dodgers? Yeah yeah I mean I know. I'm in bands so that was the time at the world series was cancelled. It's pretty you name. It happened again today and I mean you know. Also nineteen eighty. What four strike. You're eighty four well. There were a bunch of ninety. Ninety four was won. The world series was cancelled. Yeah so this could be the next time. The world series has cancelled but I think ninety four is like one thing but for for the world series to be cancelled because one of the just the manager was mad like trump style nat saying like. They're they're fake news so I'm not GONNA do. It is pretty Audacious crazy to me. Yeah well I'm glad he didn't win. Yeah the giants would would go onto lose a number of world series when they went because the very next year he played in the world series. Mcgauran has team play the world series? Yeah so the oh well. Mcgraw's flaw had one fatal flaw and it was pride. The Greek stars that it also his style shows us some things about how the game used to be. There was a player. He had who hit a two run homer but he find him like dollars because he ordered hands the ball. He no order to bunt mean. Can you hit the ball in there? I mean I still think that should happen. Like if you're on a little league team and you if you call for a bunch. I don't care what the person does and I don't care if it was successful that the person broke the rule. The point is you follow the order. Not Do your special thing. Get you from Cleveland accent. Trevor Bauer. The Guy who threw the ball over the center. Field fence annoyed. He got taken out. So you know dude like you know you follow the God damn directions. I like Tom. Barringer says in that movie. We're waiting Baseball's great okay. You know what I'm talking about Tom. 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40: The Haunting of Chill House

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40: The Haunting of Chill House

"The. It's one fifteen m in Beaumont, South Carolina. And you're listening tonight. Call. Hello and welcome tonight. Call a podcast for your strange days and nights, I'm test Lynch in Los Angeles. And with me is Molly Lambert and over in New York, we have Emily Ashida. I got I should have done my fake southern accent elect Kevin Kline. I don't think it's fake. I looked him up and he's from sing Louis, Missouri. But it's that accent. It's so, but it made me look up where Kevin Kline was from. Because I realized I had no idea. What it could be though is doctor where like for instance, if you try to do if you're from Boston, and you try and do a New York accent? Like, it's still, you know, your Boston accent? Oh, yeah. Exactly, contrary to popular belief there is more than one southern accent. And the Missouri accent is is not like the Carolina accent. Exactly. Well, is Missouri. Sort of midwest -i Missouri's the south. It's the south. Yeah. It's not what we would call the deep south this movie takes place in the deep south this movie that we're about to introduce. Yes. This take some preamble because I feel like followers that know us from the hoodies days. Have definitely hurt us at least make threats to a big chill special a big chill super our. And we are finally making good on that this week two thousand eighteen we are doing vigil episode. Apropos of nothing really other than the fact that Molly had never seen the big chill, and we're I guess officially pass Buki season, pending election results. Well, this thanksgiving movie. It ends out a little. A deleted scene. A notorious delete insurance deleted scene to set up the big chill. I've never seen the big shell. What a terrifying. Movie to watch in your thirties. You're thirty time. Because I think about was how old are these people supposed to be and I wanted to say they're on the brink of forty. But no, no, no, no. They are. No. I looked it up. Jeff Goldblum thirty one Glenn Close and Kevin Kline were thirty six, but it's like say didn't have all those Katie masks back. It's just like it's so eighties. That the way the way everyone is dressed though, the eighties yuppie American Sloane ranger kind of style is. So ancient looking to us looks like our parents who are ever old. We will never be able to divorce that look exactly like my parents never dress like that you think they didn't. But there's like a certain amount of the h-. Hairdos one thing. I love the hell they all have the same haircut in this movie. Everybody man and woman has exact same haircut. A little bit of a flu f- flu. Sometimes it's curly. Sometimes it's straight. It's growing her file all growing out there during. Speaking of our parents, we definitely respond to this in a different way that maybe even listeners of our podcast that are younger than maybe don't have boomer parents might respond to it who might just like watch purely for the aesthetics like this really does feel like the beginning of boomers running everything this movie like feels like the cultural flag being planted of like, okay, now, everything is going to have to do with what boomers were into and their college experience in the music that they liked him bought a, blah and Buber's just talking and recording themselves talking and then watching themselves talking. Feedback loop of boomer interests. But yeah, it it's very it's fun to magin what this movie would be like about any other generation, but it's also hard too because. Oh, boomer. Yeah. It's pretty boomerang. I have to say that. So I didn't believe that anyone hadn't seen the big chill until we found out while we were talking about it. I I don't remember if it was on the air when we recording hoodies or before after by stunt, we were because it's like I was saying this is one of tests favorite movies ever and tests like for then came late, man. The entire time. I've known you since you were a teenager. You've loved like midlife crisis movies. I love him. I've been having a midlife crisis can't hire life. You can't wait to be like wearing a camel smokey and like arguing on a payphone children bunch of. We're definitely all Donald Sutherland at animal house yet. Today's episode of night. Call is brought to you by canvas people we want to know what you are planning on doing for your holiday shopping. I don't know about you guys. But I take so many pictures on my phone every day and half of them. Just disappear. I don't do anything with them. Because of the way that we now live off of our phones a lot of times we never get to actually look at and cherish. 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So it's nineteen Eighty-three which happens to be the year that Molly and I were both born. So the movie belongs to us, and it is a Lawrence chasm movie about a group of friends who are reunited by the death of their one of their other friends, their friend who died is played by Kevin Costner, but all of his scenes were cut out of the movie. But apparently, there's a scene where he was like it was a flashback scene where he's making thanksgiving dinner with the rest of the cast, and then that ended up being cut, but it's not physically this group of, you know, friends who get together after a longtime apart, they go to a house in South Carolina, and they all spend time together surrounding this guy's funeral. Well, what I learned from the MD trivia section that I read extensively after watching. It is that the flashback scene would have revealed the information that these people all lived in a co op together university of Michigan much like Lawrence Kasdan. Who was in a food co-op called the Eugene Debs how up like a socialist food co op which then explains why they are so comfortable living in a house together and sharing the duties of cooking and making food and stuff was supposed to be great detail. It is agreed until I was also like I've known a lot of people who've lived in coops, and there is that dynamic of living in a co op with people were everybody's like eating together doing the dishes and like flirting with each other all the time. And I liked this movie. It was sad. Why sad. Well, I mean, maybe it wasn't sad. I I don't know. It was definitely less like peak eighties than I was expecting. I realize as I was watching it. I was like, oh this is like nineteen eighty three. This is kind of like almost seventies movie. It's just kind of like a story about some people with some problems is very much play. Yeah. It is. It's a total play. Also, it's kind of like a loose remake of rules of the game. He said, oh, it's like a French country estate. But it's just like a, you know, a country house and some white yuppies who are having a lot of issues. Right. But having fun having their issue. Well, okay. This is what I say is. I thought the reason I thought it wasn't maybe depressing because I was like is this like an upbeat ending. Spoiler alert like everybody has sex at the end during a lightning storm movies. Very horny. But yeah, I was like this movie is sort of like it's like a I it's all sad about like, a you've made all your choices. And you're stuck now in your life forever with your like boring life that you chose nothing like the fun life. You thought you were going to have when you were a hippie living in a co op with your cool friends, and now you're confronting it in a funeral scenario. But then the end it's like everybody kind of like, oh, actually, we still can change our minds about stuff still and like let your friends husband knock you up which is. Yeah. One of who really wild plot points. I think that's is that the transformative moment though, is that like when when everybody realizes they still have that good old hippie commune, I think so like we're gonna make a baby together as like a friend, Billy. But then there's also the fact that Nick who's William hurt decides to stay in the house with Riley. It's like a haunting. It is. The haunting of chill house. Yep. Is make Tillie like always always doing stretches and like like doing contortions in a in an Leotard because she's young and flexible. Yeah. Of course, because it's to show that it's the eighty. Lexa bowl metaphorically. She like, you know. Well, they don't really it's funny. They feel like they include her they're not like mean to her just because she's like the young. I mean, Glenn Close is giving her some side. But I point Meg tilly's character Chloe, they're all like waxing nostalgic. And then they ask her about her past. And she's like, oh, I don't really talk about the past. Because I don't it as much as you guys. So she kind of represents the like she's not a static yet. Because she's still at a point where she's still like idealistic and anything can happen in her life, and like she's just enjoying her. She's twenty feels like she's more. She doesn't have tight group of friends though. Like, they do that. All drives. She's yeah. She's a drifter. She's like seems like she's just dated a series of older men. And like she says something to the effect of I don't know that many happy people or something like that. I think she's secretly the greatest charac. She's a great character the Leotard that she's doing stretches in at the beginning is very specifically such an eighties Leotard like put me in a weird state of mind. You imagine how hard it would be to p if you were wearing a Leotard over tights. I mean, I remember how hard it was yet. Over yet. Everyone did. Yeah. I mean, some of the things that I knew about this movie the like dancing around the kitchen island and the sixties soundtrack thing. Like, none of it bothered me in the context of the movie because it was possible to see it as like, oh, this was the first time some of these things happened. So so we should maybe like like just do the the boilerplate in case people haven't seen this test. I think set it up that it's funeral runs. The one other friends. It's interesting to know that it's a commun-. That's like a that's an interesting. Yeah. That made it a lot more interesting to me. Yeah. So this friend of theirs. Kevin Costner plays corpse in it. He's the fuck up, but they're all kind of a fuck up. But these like one of these guys just couldn't decide on what he was going to be and he like drifted around from jobs job and then committed suicide while stain at the country home of Kevin Kline, and Glenn Close as characters who are they've kind of made it they like own some kind of chain of stores. It's gonna get. Oh. Running shoe store. That up and it's called running dog. And it's yet from a quote, it's from a quote from that says something about the running dogs of capitalism. If you weren't. There was a socialist subtext to the big chill. We found it. It's not even a subtext. It's like in the movie. Yes, again is makes it interesting. I think I tuned out because yeah, they have the the shoes delivered from the store so that they can run around and play like five football and the yard and. Yeah. So there's just a tangle of feelings among these seven friends is it seven plus plus make Tilly, I guess. Yeah. Well, if you also you gotta count Richard Larcher. Oh, yeah. Best husband who eats. Manny sandwich who glass of milk. And that's all you need to know about Richard. He goes, then leaves the next morning. He's like I'm just here for the manny's, which I was saying detests, I found all of the men in this movie, very attractive who most who most of. Will you know, I know that this is like a basic take to be attracted to Jeff Goldblum. But I'm never a person who is attracted Jeff Goldblum for many years. And like, suddenly, I was like Jeff Goldblum. Wow. What a charming guy. Very good at taking imaginary phone calls in movies. Yeah. I'll tell you who I was most attracted to and that would be Mary Kay place. Oh, well, Mary Kay place area gave plays the mating RA movie. Yeah. The people who are involved are can we got Kevin Glenn as herald, Sarah. And they read something in remember where when I was sifting through all of these big chill takes that. You know, some people argue that this is a southern movie because it's all about like looking back towards history, and like that he's the person who's from the south and then went to university of Michigan, but returned to his roots. And now he's just returning to his past. But everyone else went elsewhere and he's living in like a plantation house as yeah. Yeah. But then neither Kevin Kline nor Glenn Close wanted. Like, they thought those were the boring roles, and they were a little bit pissed that they were cast that way not paste. But they were like everybody wanted to be Mary Kay place. I mean who wouldn't and then we have Tom Barringer Osam Weber who is the lake you know, kind of accidentally. Yes, also, also. Also, needless to say, yeah. Michael goal. Jeff Goldblum who is the entertainment journalist. He's the one who's all of us for label you really trying to get out of context content, and he's trying to convince himself at the story. She's writing for us magazine any. People isn't it? He was the us. But he he started offering. I can't in Harlem and like then got into journalism for the money. I guess. And he knew brought the camera to tape. Everyone very awkwardly as the mostly himself James spader and sex lies and videotape. Eighty spring in the camera to tape. Everybody talking about. And nobody wants to have sex with him. That's all which is in very surprising. In like a deleted scene. He he goes up at the funeral. He's introducing himself. Like, no one remembers him a missing he was living in the commune, but he was from a younger grade. So I would say is a little bit younger little yawning. A little bit younger. So I think he was kind of like the interloper who wanted to be cool. He's bringing the new wave energy yet into this, otherwise strictly classic R&_B. Household. And then there's William hurt guess obvious, Nick Carlton, who's a veteran. He's about nam vet fun. But he cannot get a boner or some or or does I don't know my hung his day was blown off. Is that it is not really? Envisioning like born on the fourth of July like pulling your to out. Yeah. There's something I imagined. Jeez. He also does a lot of drugs, and oh, yeah. I find him to be the least attractive in this film. Babe, though, still. Mannerisms wise and the dryness of his his sense of humor. He is the number one, babe. And the ladies vice not exactly I like, I dated somebody for summer who was obsessed at this movie and an obsessed with his character specifically and had the car had that Porsche like the old Porsche, and and was very much like like him. But obviously did something for me. So. Fame. Yeah. Who's drawn to whom? I would not have expected that who else we got. Okay. So then we have Meg Jones Mary Kay place. My girlfriend now. Is a single professional woman. She's a shield air. It's I feel like it's on she professional Ramesh as a business in Los Angeles. There's a point where she's in her office, and she's looking out over the in the opening credits when you see how how to look at the briefs for the account. Yeah. Eight. Reefs? Our let's imagine that she works in century city as a lawyer because that seems right sure smoking merits, and she's seems really cool. And then we have Karen Bowen's. Who's Joe Beth Williams? She's kind of token like Sopa REGI coal dish. She's trapped in a bad marriage to the Maureen guy to boring, Richard bow. But she she clearly used to be a fun babe in college. And this is reminding her of that. Yeah. And she gives a lot of longing looks. Yes. Can I offer a hot take in opposition to your enthusiasm for Mary Kay place? Here. I don't think I don't think they're any like actually good female characters in this movie. And that was that was a realization upon watching this time because I know that khloe was the best character, that's sort of. That's that's the hottest take. But I think that if if they had added like one or one or two more saints with her I think, you would have you'd have an a plus character a very interesting and not to be too like Bekdeli reductionist about it. But like they that feeling of like, it's me watching Jeff Goldblum, just, you know, in some of the like, the literal facts of his character, and his profession everything. But also just like some of the mannerisms and the way he is and everything that for me is not there for with any of the female characters mostly because again, we don't know we don't know what Mary Kay place does. And like everybody else is just like defined by like whether or not they fucked the dead guy or anything like if they like their husbands or not, or if they want to stay out of their marriages like that seems to be the defining crises for most of these characters, and yes, everything comes down to sex in this movie and the end, but like it's always been sex though for all represents like not selling out. But I thought Glenn Close had a pretty good like you of her. A sense of her backstory. She wanted with Alex. Yeah. Dalek? Did you have an affair? Yes. She cheat on Kevin Kline with Alec. She gets to cry. Our is in the shower early on. But then by deciding to encourage spoiler again, Kevin Kline to father Mary Kay places child and then to have sex. It's like retribution. She's like now, we're even because I had an affair with Alex. I carried that guilt. And now, I am basically like enlisting you to have sex with my friend. And now, it's even Steven. I don't know that feeling. The feels like such a male screenwriter fabrication. Puppet. Master. Well in the strain I was test. I like it. No, it was it was co written with a woman a woman, Barbara Coppel. Let's go with it. Let's go with it. So wild to me. Kasdan wrote this like in the middle of doing strong. It's like it's like the chaser for Star Wars. I sure I mean, again, it's like what I liked about is. I was like, wow. This is a big hit movie that got nominated for a lot of Oscars, and it's just about a bunch of people having like personal crise. Yes. It's not about space wars hits. Just like internal space wars. Also, I thought it was really interesting that he felt so bad about cutting Kevin Costner out of the movie that then his next movie Silverado he was like comeback. Kevin come on. All right, fine. I'll do it. But I mean, it's like interesting because when they talk about cutting his scenes, and with super weird is that I have the Blu Ray with like all the deleted scene. You cannot get deleted scenes of Kevin Costner. They are not to be found. Apparently, it's because they felt like if Alex existed in that universe that it would overshadow the impressions Alex that make. I think that's probably the Whigs were so bad in the thanksgiving flashback that people laughed so awesome. Like, we can't do it because they're supposed to like, maybe maybe the Whigs were, you know, just fate telling them. I mean, I think it makes more sense than not have around. I think it's more effective. I think it's a good little like. Ooh, gotcha. In the opening sequence. Like who's this Deford, gentlemen? Getting ready for a night out on the town. He's dead. It's a horror movie, you know, what seeing real. It's like, so cliche and Fetig. But it gives me chills. Every time is the Oregon doing you can't always get what you. Yeah. It's so good. You guys real good this movie way more than I expected. I've seen a lot of things that come after this. I've seen a Indian summer, which I don't know if anyone else has seen, but it's a big chill rip off from the nineties about a group of friends who meet at a camp and then come back to the camp and all have Sachs. Rekindle old relationships. And this movie was formative to me because it is where I I learned the word boner. No because somebody gives a long monologue in it about an embarrassing experience. They had at camp or they had a Boehner and they had to keep the tried to tape it down, and it didn't work it like just like a long Boehner monologue. And then because this was the early nineties when the internet wasn't a thing really at we like asked our friends, mom what Boehner what Boehner was. And she was like go ask your parents. Nice. Very suave parenting move. There was twelve I don't know that I ever did ask my own parents. Or if I just like probably like went to the dictionary with something I would do. Has a nerd paper. 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I think he's I think he's an earth sign. I think a hundred percent I didn't know what we were doing. I thought we were just gonna to be like, you're Kevin. Sires thread. And so I started thinking about this. And I I think he's I think he's a Taurus or Virgo. But I'm Lou Horace. I go Virgo because I will tell you who's the tourists, and that would be William hurt is the tourist this. This is confusing to me tell only go defamation. Hey, phyllis. Everyone thinks of the Taurus as like the sturdy, reliable sovereign. No. But I think like per year likes their house like they had two houses. No, they like their drugs, and they like their cars, I'm Mary Taurus, he's not a drug addict. Likes his car. Lana. Del rey. So. Linda, Val Ray over here. I'll just go with the ones I felt really strongly about. And I I wanna hear what you thought William hurt was too. But I'm gonna say that the tourists for William hurt. And then I really feel like Jeff Goldblum is a cancer. Yeah. I can see that. I for debate. Yeah. Because he's like he's kind of capricious, but he also he has his own motives, and he's really bad at hiding them. And he goes after them, he's pretty charming. So eventually, you kind of forgive him. There's not a lot like what you see is. What you get a mostly with him. I think. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what I think of is a as a cancer trainees tortured. They're very tortured. I think you're dead on. I think you said that that Mary Kay places. A Kappa corn, which I think that's dead on. Thank you. Yeah. What do you think about Glen? I say Glenn was either Assad deteriorates or Virgo, I'm leaning towards Sagittarius. I she kinda like I think she's a libra a libra goes hope such strong feelings. I'm not. The libra. Oh, yeah. He could be lever to I don't know. I mean, he's like I mean, he's the famous person. So that usually like the famous people in fictional works. Italy is but are the yeah. But luckily, famous that's what his character. He's a gray actor, he's he's a fantastic character. He strengths from himself. Yeah. That Tom Barringer Barringer is a great character. He was very good. He was sort of a new thing about him. And he was the secret ace, although he was on cheers for like, five seconds. Yeah. How did you miss the Tom Barringer connection there or you didn't? I didn't know. I didn't put it in context. I'm trying to find the factoid. I saw about how they were. There is a haunting during the filming. Yeah. I want to know. But that you thought we were going to say who done of. Yeah. Yeah. But this is this is what I came to my my take about the female characters really thinking about who. I am. And I'm like, well, I went like for two of the male characters. I don't know. There's nothing about the female characters rose like that felt deep enough to be licked even have a strong. Oh, absolutely. No. I'm not like that. Or? Yes. I'm definitely like that. So I don't know. That's that's that's how I kind of arrived at that. But I'm in. So you just identify mostly with. With with Goldblum and hurt really would not have expected that. I mean, I think if you had a little bit more time with Mattila than I might be able to to lean more towards her. But I think that their their relationship feels sort of recognizable in a way to me. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. To say, I think she's she's a Scorpio. Wait, you think Chloe Scorpio I said areas I thought she was an Aquarius because. Yeah. Hard to get a read on her shirt, and she just comes out with some crying. And you're like what? And then she stretching, and she's laughing, and you're like, this makes sense total Aquarius. I'm Richard Richard is the Scorpio for sure. Richard a bad husband whose name you can't ever own. No. I would not sexy enough to be a Scorpio. I've known a lot of really unsexy Scorpio in. I mean, I think it's like they pull out their singer. And you're just like want that. And then they out just like me, you know, I spent literally two hours last night. I couldn't turn off my brain. I have election anxiety. I was just like now I need to sink like Kennedy. You need to do the chart of the I'm going to do the. I mean, I think like for me, I'm like sixty percent Mary Kay place. Maybe like twenty percent Glenn Close twenty percent. Jeff goldblum. Yeah. Can you even is it allowed to split which is your son moon rising? I don't know other evening spent a wake stuff. The big chills. Really good escapism because they're doing too is. And the house is like look so comfortable in such an eighties way. Like enjoy a lot of things in the Sean rut have do you guys like wanderlust, David Wayne movie? Oh, yeah. It's great. I always bring it up because I love it so much and I feel like it's like a gen-x big chill. You know? It's about people being like, oh like being a yuppie sucks. Like, let's move into this commune. Right. I I wanna talk about what this movie would look like if you were to do say for the area that we went to college in like, what would that look like? And if if there's a big chill circa sui graduated average of two thousand five or electro clash big chill. Yeah. The electric the blockhouse big chill. I mean, it's really hard. Like now that there's we have a better idea of the things that we will be nostalgic for is a generation and like have a clearer picture. Clear hindsight of like, what was in the air when we were in college. And what shaped us in that way? I really wanna know what the offs college graduate, the millennial the millennial big chill would look like like what would be the what would be this on that soundtrack can. And what would what would we the route would do? Yeah, strokes. I mean, you could not escape that college party. I mean LCD sound system. I guess if you're going to have notion, I it was so pervasive. I guess it's starting all your friends, I resented tone. Its own self announcement is like I'm the music that signifies this time. Something else because of that you have to like acknowledge it may be that everyone. Maybe they make fun of it. Why what stuff that accidentally just became part of the the soundtrack? No the thing. That's most strongly conjures college to me is. Hey, oh, yeah. Totally wasn't that. That would be our Figari. For sure. Hey on with my freshman year of college. Yeah. I remember dancing like a Halloween party that I associate that was senior year of high school, but all allow it I will allow it also modest mouse was like in the either the bad time of modest at that time it was on its way. I mean when did the moon it, I guess that was that was Artico is ninety one or something maybe earlier. Filled. This spill I think of as being very college, Molly. And I went to a Bill to spill concert. I think freshman year, maybe this is like call this was high school for me, but still like deep deep nostalgic buttons being pushed built to spill it a great. I love built it. We all still red for built to spill. Yeah. Twenty three. Twenty five one eight fifteen. American hysteria is a brand new podcast from skylark and me Chelsea over Smith. It explores on moral panics urban legends and conspiracy theories how they shape our psychology and culture, and why we end up believing them all cover moral panics, stranger danger, satanic panic and Tinky Winky homosexuality. Urban legends like poison Halloween candy and conspiracy theories like the eliminates secret plan for world domination. I was raised around a ton of wild conspiracy theories. And I know how easy it could beat a freak out over the sensational. The rare in the untrue. I wanna understand why we fear the wrong things, and how these fears shape our past present and future in sometimes devastating ways. And also what these bizarre panics might be covering up. I promise to show you a good old time while I try to figure it all out the first two episodes of American hysteria drop November twelfth head over in. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. Five fifteen twenty five twenty three eight. Watching this movie is bizarre to me because I did the opposite of like communal living in college. You went into the mode. Remember, I wanted to be an adult. I feel like I had like a I I had like a borderline nervous breakdown my freshman year where I just I couldn't sleep and I stayed up for about five days. And I ended up getting a job. So that I could move off campus because I couldn't get what's called a psycho single. Which is when you which is not a nice way of this. But everyone was like, oh, you need a psycho single. I still have this thing where it's if I'm around people for too much. I feel like I need to like have a day or two of solitude, which is harder mom communal communal living. Only children. I yeah. You're both only children it kind of like just the life at the opposite. Yes, I loved socialize always interesting to visit you because. You lived with the same group of people and I fake lived with the same group of people throughout college because I had to have a dorm room. So I I had like a ghost room in you know, until a certain point, and I'm still friends with them, and we actually still or. Reunion trips with friends from college we end it. They're very not like the big chill. But I mean, there is not like the big chill, you all rent a house together rent a house, it's but we don't all have sex with each other. But you all like leave your children upstairs. So you can probably smoke weed only some of us smoke. We do we he played a lot of like charades rounds and stuff very weird. But I find that you know, I don't know. I mean, maybe just because of things like having such a different vibe right now, there's a lot less pleasure. Taken in the style jet. It's almost painful to think back on how different things were when we were in college. And and where we are as a country now, but I feel like it's very easy to look back at any earlier time and be like it was so great. But like I always have to remind myself like, oh, no like, I've never been happy in any time in my life. We'll politically when we were in college. It was a difficult, AVI? Yeah. We're relieved that and yes, like super just times specifically where I'm like, oh, I wish I hadn't been so depressed like in the end of college in the just like, I'm new thing. Is that the difference with big chills that they were literally living in the sixties or they were going to college in the sixties. And I think we use the idea of like the sixties as a metaphor of some kind of like salad days when everybody was optimism. But that's like literally when they were young and relevant and everything and the driving plot of big chill. If if you see it as than trying to reconnect with their idealistic college days when they were literally in the most idealistic frame and family century. Like, we don't have that. It's in a way, it's like, it's it's kind of like a mirror image of just RS was so kind of cloaked in negativity. I mean, they're the hopefulness of the sixties. And then in a way, the hopefulness of the eighties of this boomer kind of idealistic like we're on. But like diametrically opposed optimism example, like we all sold out. But look how much money we made. And what's interesting is you know, kind of how how our experience has been kind of contradicted by the recession. So we didn't even have that option at all. So I feel like a lot of Arjun rations like getting radicalized now. Yes now is the time. When people are like, oh, where all those yuppie things that I was told adult stuff followed the rules. And it's like, oh, it's never coming. And everyone took all the stuff. And that's it like, well, that's where the depression angle comes in that you were talking about when Molly when you said that looking up their ages was such a horrible thing. Because I think that it I mean to think of like people in their early to mid thirties and all of them without question seemed to be totally financially stable Jeff gold. Well. Yeah. He's no. But he's he's doing something for the money that a pitch those stories. New York, man. I don't know if he's able to fly from New York to that club. Yeah. And I bet being being columnist for people magazine and the eighties probably was pretty cushy job, especially at thirty one. You know, I mean, and that's what's really craziest to think of how few people can afford to even like the the coats that Joe Beth Williams is wearing come on. That's kashmir. Those are dusters like, you know, very impressive. I mean, they're all it's it's something. That's so taken for granted. Whereas a big chill movie now would inevitably have to encompass, you know, a lot of economic. Yeah. I say like when I see a lot of old friends like Felix. Sometimes there's a lot of just like classics -iety baked in all the time everyone doing and like who's got what going on had a boyfriend throughout call. It will two different boyfriends. I call it. But neither of them went to school with me. So. Well, sorry. I know my boyfriend he goes to school. He losing Cana. Is it fair to say you were both too cool for school? I. I had a cat, man. Very cool. And I I made a lot of roast chicken. I moved at a certain point from my like really cute super tiny studio to it ended up unbeknownst to me. I was like, oh, wait is it a retirement community? I moved into a retirement every. And the only other please live in a dorm of sort. Yes. The only other person who was under the age of fifty was a med student. And he was like thrilled that I was there. And I was not exciting at all. But they call it the people in their ninety is referred to me as Britney Spears because I would like. I loved it. I it was my Rushmore. I totally just like I always wanted to go to college. And then I did like this is great. I would like to keep doing this forever. I was so jealous of your college experience. My college was going back home to Iowa during the summers. Like that was the most collegiate experience for me. I think because I grew up in a college town, and so kind of had like got primed on what like the most serious typical like big ten midwestern college experience is going to be like, and then kind of had it out of my system by the time. I actually went to college that makes like would come back home and just go to like, the college bars and stuff in Iowa City, and then go back to school and just like work and work and work on anybody. That was my. So you never went to that that weird brewery in Westwood village. Westwood burry the Brucke. Oh, yeah. The co I definitely want to some comedy shows that the Brusco I definitely had it my friend gave me her old ideas that I get into the co they took tests when I yeah. That was actually a hard. I had to be snuck in the back of the Brusco cases, Scott your Lixin. Well, it wasn't great town like all the rest of my like early twenties bar going was in k town because that's where I my first apartment in Los Angeles. Was that's jealous of that. I'm jealous of both of you guys. Why was I living in a retirement community? Why did I do that? I guess on my soundtrack for for for my big chill. I would you know, what would have to be on there? And it would be the thing where everybody would be like this song. But then realize all start crying and dancing to it. Power out by arcade. Fire. Totally I listened to tunnel so much when it was like freezing cold and super snowy. And I was in my retirement home trying to be like how do I get to a bar then I was like oh hook literally take a tunnel. But you're not gonna do that. 'cause it's really cold to go out to a bar. I listen to when I was very depressed. My senior year of college. I like would only listen to rap because it would make me less depress. And like indie rock would make me depressed. So obviously. So I listened to some cut by trill. Oh, yeah. That's moly. Follow that asking the mall. That is my my take me away. The Sal just so I went through this weird period. Where Molly made me she made me a bunch of mixes, I still have them and one of them senior year had Paul barman's cock mobster on it. And I I some reason really not feeling not feeling great. I would just put on cock mobster night total. Remember being in the car with my mom to visit my grandmother and just being like just leading it play, you know, and just like inside dying. But it's like worse to change it. It was mayor of an yeah. Like, Paul bar thought, even cool. No. Arvin is like. You're in a mood. You wanna listen, according you Koby of opium. Via. Oh my God. It's all all of the lyrics are still in my brain ready to come out into the microphone, but I don't want to embarrass anyone. Keep it. Happy dandy voice makes the most anti choice granny panties Moyes. And there we have it. Stoop. No, lower this podcast for you. Yeah. I like the idea of the the underground the backpacker big chill. Yeah. We should ask our listeners for any big chill thoughts and also our millennium listeners what they think would be on the millennium big chill soundtrack. I think it's like the fifth higher selling soundtracks of all time. It was on the charts for like eighty four weeks. I think it was bananas. And I feel like big chill never won. At least never won an Oscar, but was nominated. I think but the the soundtrack was like king of this out tracks. Yeah. If you the weight on anything, it's just gonna the wait is like a magical. As you. There's your Rolling Stones song. And there's your you have the weight like there's a couple there's like a couple of songs that hit more in the like Jefferson airplane direction the soundtrack going, but then the rest of it is just like all Motown. Yeah. Which is part of what as to the like upbeat feeling of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe this isn't necessarily the clearest cross section of what they were listening to at the time. But it's like the thing that they would listen to keep themselves up. It's morning the records. They would listen to in their co op when they were like all cooking together being there. They're vegan. Awesome romaine. Yeah. Talks. Biggles stu. Yup. It takes a lot to give us a night. Call with your with your big chill memories slash reboot. Ideas who you are from big chill who's the best person in big chill? Mary Kay place. We'll take. Should we all get the big chill haircut together? No. I already have it. I just hard. Got fresh shoot haircut. She does. Yeah. It looks good. Yeah. I got my enemy haircut for the end times graduations, will maybe we'll all get big chill perms for the times. I don't need always wanted. Really? Yeah. Got a Perm. Once how was it? I was obsessed with getting a Perm for such a long time. My hair is very hard to Perm. So it took a lot of it took a lot of energy to actually get to like flu fee. Perfection. I can't explain to you. What it's like to hear people with straight hair talk about how much they want curly. Oh, I've been it's been my whole life. I'm like, why straight hair? Why curly? Fresh off the boat where they talk about like, the statler the status Perm or like, the they have some name for it where it's like the family is just projected onto the idea of Perm as being like the way that you show off at your like a real American family. Like two four zero four six night. It was a call about perms about the end times about the about a movie soundtracks. Yeah. Any and all we're post spooky times now. So now, we're getting into comfort material comfort food material. Also, send us your best recipe is for thanksgiving foods, and your least favorite thanksgiving foods. And we won't talk about the condiment that we dare not speak its name. But any already did did. But you had to it was part of the movie it was part of the movie movie. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, give us all your thanksgiving. 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(Episode 126) "Eddie and the Cruisers" Actor: Michael Pare.

Monday Morning Critic Podcast

23:01 min | 1 year ago

(Episode 126) "Eddie and the Cruisers" Actor: Michael Pare.

"This is Catherine Parker from the hunting hill house. You're listening to Derrick Thomas and the Monday morning critic podcast. My next guest has been an infiltrator bone Tomahawk. Lincoln lawyer virgin suicide rates American hero. He broke our hearts as Eddie Wilson. Eddie, the cruisers at I gotta say the chef from New York as turned out to be a pretty goddamn good actor his name is Michael Paret, Michael. How are you tonight? Good. Things are quiet here in California too. Yeah. California's been required mcclain's dance was to seek right? Because you've been so good for so long working at such a high level. What's the process? What's the method? You go through what's the secret here? Eight healthy focused on your career because. Yeah. Because you man, you're going to one hundred sixty three in your filmography. You're still going strong. You're you're you're better than ever. Right. You've evolved as an actor, you're playing more complex characters. So man, and I guess I was joking. Not joking by the looks. But like your career you're getting better with time. And as an actor. That's what you want you want to evolve and get better with time. Amendment lifetime member the answer studio. I do. You know a little bit. So, you know, you gotta grow. If you're not moving forward. You're sliding back. Right. That's well said in there are some actors. I have the come on the show, Michael. And they kind of are I come in. I read the lines I leave in. That's the opposite of who. You are clearly you love acting love who you are. And you love the profession you're in trying to get better really really kinda shows that. Well, you know life shouldn't adventure. You know, you gotta charge March whatever you wanna call. But. Thank you very much for your. I have to ask your born in Brooklyn. You have you have a huge family, right? Sisters three brothers. You lose your dad early on. Which is which is awful is is is your mother at the time kind of a superhero kind of raising all of you on her own as she somebody that you completely idolize. Serve use a mom. You know, she went to work year after my father died and. Everybody in the family went to college, you strong, very Catholic. Judge brothers without the priests. That was a Catholic priest a cousin that was none. So. You know, she had a very, strong spiritual life. Growing up. You're in a very difficult time. Right. The war is going on. You just lose your, you know, your dad was it a tough time. I hope it's not it's an obvious question. But is it a really tough time for you, Michael is it is it something was very difficult for you to navigate through. Well, it was your big family four boys, you one room for girls in the other the two young child like a little nursery room so crowded, but you know, we had a the family, you know, ten of us. Yeah. Look, man. Your Luke around the world anybody grown up in the United States is very fortunate. So I have nothing to complain about Wilson, man. I'm to say just a fast forward a little bit. You're a chef right in New York. And all of a sudden you're discovered. I mean, it's almost like you live two lives. Michael, right? The one before acting in the one as an actor. And it almost seemed like it came by storm for you. Well, you know, I was just. You know, I feel like chosen. You know, but. My sister has doctor in English literature and a PHD in teaching McGruther as if the English literature. My sister went to five t my other sister went to Strasbourg, I mean, so the arts were in all blood, right? I wasn't very good academically joy into the culinary institute. But. You know, you know, Joan Girish always, you know, you know, they said we drink, and and you know, like these poetry saw DNA's there. And I took the class right away. I understood doll fucking craft. It was like a mystery right doing I opposed posted from you know, the crafty thing that it wasn't. You know, it wasn't about being famous about being good at what you do. In how and how were you discovered? My glenn. I probably told the story thousand times, but I know you were a chef does somebody walks in and says, you know, you'd be ideal for a role. How does that unfold for you? If you don't mind telling me a little bit about that. Well, I worked, you know, the dinner shift from three to eleven and my girlfriend was a waitress in a bar on Columbus avenue that was like. Was. Industry bar, right? The news. It was right across the street from ABC great. So the news guys out there, the, you know, the crew out there, you know, all the technicians. And you know, it was Columbus you so all the soap opera people were in and out, but I would just show up, and my girlfriend was a waitress. I would sit there for to get off of work, but in ancient name event big off this Jewish girl from Long Island in great neck, Long Island. Sadness to me over the course of you know, a couple of weeks telling me that I should be actor. She was already in. Talked it over with my brother, and my girlfriend. She should go ahead and have lunch. You would see what the real planners? So I'd love for her. And she said she would send me to acting school during the day. And I continue coffee at night Joe walked into a clinch. In Carnegie Hall belt was a guy new Robert Moore to teaching the minds their method. And I'll be honest, you know, as a as a chef as it cook in Manhattan, you know, all the way juices are actresses dancers models, you know, physicians should like the weren't that interested in, you know, in chef, you know, I was twenty years old. But you go in Aki clash, and if you put good work, suddenly, they will all talk to you and take you Sears. So my initial attraction was it was a great way to go. And then I continued studying and then I went to steam studying. I had a knack for and two years later. I auditioned for ABC's talented velvet program as Joyce os was running and she put me on greatest American hero. Michael, let me ask you. So do you think that you need? Did you need looking back? Do you think you needed that acting class? You think you needed the talent development part of it? Or do you think if you didn't have that stuff you still I mean, I know one leads to the greatest American hero. I get that. But as as a as a artist, you think you need that to to improve or harness your ability. Studio still work on, you know, great place. You know, you gotta keep your interesting sharp. You guys like say you have to know what the job is. What's what's a question? You get. What's a question? You get a lot Michael by by people that either you teach talk about acting what do people want to know from you because you're clearly in accomplish actor you're getting better. I mean, you're fantastic early on. You're getting better with time. But what what what's the question you get all the time from his Spiring actors? What the one thing that's necessary for prolonged career, and I always say give God a want to be great. That's got to be what drives you because greatness is if goal is not an accomplishment, you know, you have to want. You're not want is much as you want air. You have to want to be great at what you do and vice anything in life. Yeah. I thought you said this, Mike if I if you didn't I apologize. I said early on in your life. You were. So like blown away by Brando dean, Paul Newman did watching guys like that have an effect on you, you blown away by acting as it's something that's always been inside. I know you mentioned your family. They clearly have the arts instilled in them, but the does type of actors they really kind of fuel a little bit. Television. Sixties, you know, the late sixties is like all of those great movies from the late fifties for now on television. So you got to see all these, you know, Tennessee, weddings genome. Neil, you get to see Brando home. And you know, you know. Jimmy dean almost guys so blown away by I didn't know why. But they were like very moving, you know, and that's kind of jobs and actor is to enable the audience to have an emotion experience based on an imaginary circumstance, right? Let me ask you to of yours. Two of your three first rules are huge. I mean, there are enormous roles. Is there a time where you ever paint yourself? Mike that time and say, I can't believe this is happening where you have to a mindset of you know, what I believe in what I've become I've worked hard as an actor busting my ass. I deserve to be here. Or is it both any beginning? I couldn't believe it. Only a year out of the kitchen when it got great American hero. And so when I got in I was three years out of the kitchen, but you know, tell you funny story, we're on location in cherry hill, New Jersey, and I'm walking through the lobby of Cal. And this guy I knew from when I was in the restaurant. Working restaurants is go full was best friends my girlfriend, and you know, is Jimmy group will right. Oh, you do. What are you doing here working? He says how's the phone? She he says you start you walk here on their man. Oh my God. Eating. We had this close friend knew me way back when. So, you know, you don't belong there or not they gave you the job, you know. And you know, Matt. You know, magic happens. But of course, when it came over thinking you myself for you know, a few years, but. You know, like, I just got this big movie in China. And it's the same feeling. Oh my God. This is a role in ever get to me. You know, it's it's still exciting beginning even more. So because other twenty four my son is going to be twenty six. Some. Twenty four years old. You really are mostly falls, and you know, and Jerry. Mike. What is your what is your son have to say about your career? A lot of your work is it or see just so, you know. I kept kept him out of it. And he's knows my whole life. Dad was always going the way to shoot a movie, right? He's ninety show business. She's software. Engineers going to go work for Raytheon chump. So he's you know, that's. The other side of my family. My brother Frankie's. Scott, his master's degree, and electrical engineering, and it became an engineer when they still use l'aigle. There's so other brother was technician and Mike was inert. So we have the arts and technology, you know, much done. He's proud of me. But it's not like my dad movie star kind of stuff. See you in researching Eddie, and the cruisers, you know, it's just I gotta say I was battling on whether to ask you this or not is it better to have a movie, and I don't wanna call a cult classic. Because I almost feel like that takes away from how awesome this movie is. But is it better to have a movie where people, you know, years later? Absolutely love it, or is it better to be like a movie where it's like a mainstream release where does kind of well what what kind of is there a difference as an actor. Is it is it being a nice spot having a movie where because you've been in both situations is it nice being in a movie where years later, Eddie still means this much to them is that still a special feeling. You don't want people? Appreciate you work. You know Joe about and I was looking wising why? Well, doing feeder in Wisconsin. Fun time. Right. And I was looking at some of the clips on YouTube just a brush up. I have the movie I've had it for a while on Blu Ray. And I say man, it's got one to five million views. I mean, people are still head over heels for Eddie. And I swear Michael Megan just going over the top here. This would make a great Netflix. If they wanted to bring it back starring you. I could see this having a second life, but that's just me being optimistic. I I don't know, man. I it's amazing to see. I'm really proud of Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's got an amazing cash. Right. So this is one of your first roles, and you know, you have Tom Barringer Ellen bark any of jokingly auto you just in a really fantastic spot. You know, not to mention again, it's your first one of your first rule. So this that's just a fantastic spot to be in do identify this become a part of you Eddie become part of you like so Robert Downey junior as iron, man. He's a he takes that role has become a part of him. Johnny Depp that pirate or the Carribean movies. You know as Jack. Sparrow, do you find that Eddie was such a different rule that it's actually a big part of you you find that. That's that's ever the case that you have so much invested in any. You know, eighty was personification of what every artist beliefs that it's yard. That's important. You know, and it's you know, he was the music for meets the acting. But it's the same thing. It's like that's what it's all about. And I think that's a long Jeb Mike career. You know, I never stopped studying. I never, you know. You know, I I never gave up. I never, you know, through my career way, you know, married. Twenty seven years. I mean, I'm serious got. No. That makes complete sense. I don't know, man. There's roles that I see people in that. I you just so believable on everything. But you're so believable in this in the sense that I just feel like you were born to play any like, I cannot think of another actress, I know, Rick Springfield, really wanted just part. But I could not picture anybody else in the world that could have played any of the way you did man. I've played what was written in the script. And you really wanted. You know have that line? I wanted to be great or there's no point in doing it. And that was that was any secrets of life is the guy just yet. You've got to want to be great, right? Or you're wasting your time. You gotta wanna be great. You can't create a you really want. It just got to be the most important thing. Is you give the great performance, whether it's music or writing or or painting or acting gonna want to, you know, say something fourteen reach two biggest that's why I'm excited about this. Chinese thing is billion people in China. You know, I go to go the series on try in China right now this going to a hundred million homes. Hugh. Four hundred million people are going to see this. You know like twice a week. That's an enormous audience man is bigger than the United States. Everybody in America tuned in rain gonna sing Michael huge boom in China when it comes to filmmaking TV shows, it's like the last ten years or so it's been a huge, boom. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, the I think the arts is is the only healthy way to go to. Liz ation, you know, sports, art music, that's healthy, globalization economically. I don't know. But the arts sports, you know, that's good China. Come. I know China's still dubs everything. But so's Germany so nose ring. What is it? What is the name of the show that you're that you're because you've got so much stuff in pre production? I mean, you're such a urine busy actor. You're still working your ass off. What is the name of the show that you're talking about movies wondered them going on to win? That's on the Air China. No, both both. Twin blades and the American League is Beth bear from two checks things called and the television series called seven days alive. So that's my Chinese exposure right now, we talked about you'll just finally the greatest American hero. I have to say, you know, that has to be a huge experience for you as well. Because again, you're surrounded by a great cast just talk a little bit Michael about that. Great cash, you're surrounded with on greatest American hero. Well. Assuring American hero is seen in the diner. But the switchblade unwrap a call, and I mean, I don't wanna say star stroke. But you know, I used to watch you know, that thing you know, with the. I spy joy. I always like this Dr a Colt is anyway, I put my switchblade, and he's pointing the thirty eight special at me, and I can see the leg down the wheel. And I I. That's a real fucking girl. He's cute and that kind of freak. And then you can't say fuck, that's your real. And of course, it wasn't a real good and Robert Culp became kind of buddies. We'd have been eating drinking or anything. But you know, because you sense a respect for him. You know, again you little bit extra scenes with. Billy cat was a great guy, but different relationship, you know, probably call. Tony Khan and kind of thought probably culpas cool because you the agent dealing was his special Ed teacher. So he's kinda geeky with Robert Culp. Character was cool. In that show. Mike let so much bad luck from from lawsuits from DC, which DC losted, I just feel like ABC hill that show all wrong. And I felt like it should have been a hundred times better than it was. And it was one of the best shows in my opinion of all time incurable hurting early. Came really mega hits Seeven canals certainly one of the greatest creators and producers of shows and television history. No question about it. It may be the best of all time. Michael. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much for being on the show. Nice. Brig? The.

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ZBT #272: NASCAR Beats the Army + Dale Dye

Zero Blog Thirty

1:36:03 hr | 3 months ago

ZBT #272: NASCAR Beats the Army + Dale Dye

"It's a Friday edition here on zero blog thirty and today we have five rounds in the magazine. Run Number One hook heads up. It's a hypersonic Mach Five missile accidentally falling off of an Air Force fifty two in California this week. I'm not sure what it did, but I'm sure nope. We'll start over. wrote it like fucking head. I'm. Sorry I was like. All right here we go. It's a Friday edition here on Zero Block thirty today. We have five rounds of the magazine round number one. Book meds hypersonic Mach Five missile that accidentally fell off of an air force B fifty two over California this week. I'm sure whatever it hit will totally buff out, and that's probably just because there was actually no nuclear bombs on that. Luckily, that would have been actually back nuclear bomb on accident bat, but then if you do that, that's a guaranteed fire watch. Number, two, if you ain't I your last, and even Nascar has pulled the head of the old army, cons, beloved army, and the race to get rid of all things, confederate, who slowing the army card down. Concert going to ask you about that round number three sat down with a decorated Vietnam veteran. You've probably seen before and didn't even know it colonel. Sick I mean. captain retired Dale Dye and he's GonNa tell us how he parlayed a twenty year marine career and three decades of Hollywood I always love those stories because it's like guys like army. Go into like the Hollywood style before I always wonder what their marines thought like. What was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. In the military. What was this guy actually like in the military? Then he goes to Hollywood. You have to know that someone like that dude that dude black. Dick House he famous. We shouldn't be famous fucking Jack. I'm not saying that. This fellow, that's just what I think round number four. The highest of is the lowest of lows, not talking about okay mood swings on. Tuesday I'm talking about Kathy. Sullivan? Who is the first woman to walk in space? who also just reached the lowest point in the see you know? I wrote that round, and now that I'm looking at it I'm like this. This woman did awesome being I'm comparing it to my mood swings. Woman wrote this horrible one right there. That was me and not Jeff's terrible. Thank you I'm glad I didn't get canceled. Its Katie cancelled chat can so. I'm glad about that and Brian around number five. We talked about it last. Friday, but we got a hold of the soldier who was standing at the failings at one of the protests there in DC and telling them to tighten up. Tighten up. We talked to Wayne. Kerr made in carbon about his experiences. They're protesting and possibility of going back into the National Guard now that he has that NCO taste in his mouth. We'll get into that in round number five, and all of that is going to be brought to you by our good friends. At CBD, MD because if you know me at all, you know I need to relax. You could probably tell by the sound of my voice. I need it now. This has been a long week a long. Long Man on ending? I had psychiatry I had neurology I had all kinds of appointments this week, and they all backed up back the back. Saying I don't WanNa. Talk to you about my feelings mortgage. Let me fuck and be. Need to go and get a little bath bomb from CBD MD was a little bit of Menthol in it. Throw that to the old tub and relax and I did that. 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Loud sound stupid I just want to talk about a got halfway through the teen as chaps has been calling it now. The quarantine halfway through teen I finally got mini, folding desk and a metal folding chair to sit on and I have been sitting on metal folding chairs like my whole life I don't know if it's that I. Hit my thirties. My asks has never been sweatier dude. Every time I. Probably never done it for eight hours at a time. That's the problem is the duration is is much longer. I stand up out of his chair, and you would think that I was just sitting in a Lazy River. Thought you'RE GONNA. Say like ask bruises. Home like your tailbone. Sore unlike having to change short like I've never had this much aslam. My life and I'm like Gee or is the chair. Am I going to like early? I have never felt this I've never had worst slump bass in my life anyway. At the beginning of that. If you had that swamp. While sitting in the Middle Chair do I have the product for you. New CD SWAMP PADS. Zero. Fuck as I thought I was GonNa say this and I thought you guys going to be like Oh. Yeah, folding, you know. I I would understand it if you were talking about a cloth Cheryl other chair, so but that cheers breathable. You should have a little wind. You need some circulation in their. Kate I don't know if it's because it's painted. neon origin like the paint. Is this like no, it's not the pay like radioactive pigeon circulation. Going have a box. Maybe they need. A fan of literally wants sitting I. Picking it up right now. It's right year, I haven't does. Oh, that's for NATO that's a good one next to my ass, and it's still I have never a you have a NATO long at blank range, and you're still a sweaty man. Bear pig like. Not Normal. That wasn't English either what happened was going on. I thought I was GONNA. Get commiseration like Oh. Yeah you sit in Middle Chair? You're going to be soaked. It now this is seems like Mary Much God, maybe fever Oh man. okay well. Going to get committees just need some more cowbell. I. That myself. Let's get into the actual show round number one. What do we got kate? Well first of all I have a question for you guys. Okay? You must sit on a metal sharing your getting. Okay wait. Okay, but sometimes every now and then in the military, there is a major hoops and in this case. It's an and that's exactly what this beef. Fifty two set. When the Mach Five missile slipped off it by accident, but on a much smaller scale I feel like the tiniest little mistakes sometimes can lead to something huge like that happening and I was looking at your thinking about your guys, jobs, artillery and end canine handler, and I feel like you ever have times where somebody forgot to lock a cage or somebody forgot to put I'm picturing an enormous firing pin goes into an artillery thing. To you know like. was there ever an groups where you're like? Oh my God back a huge hammer, but we're like a small mistake led to like a big thing so on a smaller artillery, you have the round Saigon one five millimeter Howitzer rounds, and there is gunpowder attached to a string and depending on how far you're going to shoot you shoot a charge to or charged three, and that will dictate. How many bags on the string that you place inside the round before you shoot it, so you say you know an. An H. E. Round charged three save one two three. Cool. Then you clip off the extra three or four bags that are bigger because you don't need those. Yeah, I've I've seen guys where they miscount or the wrong. And they put the wrong amount of gunpowder in, and then that round goes much further are much shorter than where it's supposed to be has ever gone like off. Range of the ranges are always big enough. They accountable is big enough that they account for people being stupid and not knowing how to count past five. Man Yeah not great, though other than that has never been like A. I'm just picturing one rolling down a hill or something because I know they're on wheels. Do you ever get anybody because? A horrible life changing incident I. Your. Ever commit like a war crime or anything. Ever have a guy about to pull the string, but he's sitting on a metal folding chair in his. sledding and then he can't icons were. Completely incompetent. I've actually seen I saw one time due to close to the frigging cannon, so when the shrink appalled, he took a shot to the gut. That didn't tickle. God. Do you pull the cord? How hard is it like? My lower growing up that I had to turn on my own. You don't have to pull the string day a period Tuesday. That, string out. To pull the shrink that hard, but the blowback on the candidates very forceful. I wonder there's women in artillery now as they should have a hot minute I. DO wonder if they chuckle. Tampon! I'm sure there's now I'm sure. There's some tampon jokes that have worked their way into the red legged world indeed. Come on. Tillery people recall red. To Christina Aguilera. Joke there, but I get it. Says Chats. Have you ever anything man I mean that's part of Canine. Is that the first day whenever your instructor? Teaching all the different handlers of how to go in because people are scared, it's not like. No other job in the military. Do you just go in and you just kind of have to be with this creature that could eat your fucking ass that that day, so you have people who've never been around large dogs never been around like policing dogs working dogs, and they have to go inside the Kennel and whenever they're doing that. The instructors not in there with them I'm. I'm not there like to go in and save him if something happens. They just got to go in themselves. So when somebody leaves the door open. It's dangerous because they have all these different hands at never been around dogs, and then ones loose and the Malan. Noice when they see somebody, get nervous. They start moving a certain way. They're like Oh. Shit, it's time to plug. My favorite unsecured story though I was getting a Chirp at on my next style when I was I think it was the chiefs, train or something like that at Quantico. And we had done nighttime training. My Maria taken back the dogs in this long Kennel that we would transport like fifteen twenty dollars at a time, and they were back at the base I was like. Hey, you guys, go ahead and go back. Take care. Everything I'M GONNA. Head home because I was right by my house. Anyway put the dogs up and then I'll see you guys at noon tomorrow, and they're like cool, so they get a Chirp at three o'clock in the morning and his. Doctoral he's actually been a guest on the show. It was like a pay. Start. A Santo is out in. He is circling me and sergeant gearing like a shark. What and Santo was this like hundred twenty pounds checks shepherd the biggest military working dog I've ever seen and I was scared of is his hand there for like six months, and I was like legit scared of Santo that he was going to eat mic. These guys I know they were terrified of because he he was just meet like he shouldn't have been a working god, he was just mean yeah, and so they get. Dragged him a treat or something like that, I try not to laugh. They said it took him an hour and a half to let com Santo just had to get tired of running around and barking at the top of the trailer. Oh, they're on top of it and you just yeah. They're on top of this large trailer like you circling us like a shark. Never I would never ever and also, too. I think about it especially. Forget to like a cage on. Camp Pendleton where the Canaanites. Going by now. But they such as the team such as the teen. The the Kennels were not far from officer housing, and it's like Oh my God if a dog like like Santo took off in like went into a neighborhood. That like you have to be so? On Pendleton and when the kind of thing happens in the dog world, everybody in the dog world knows about it. They're like Oh, yeah. They lost a dog on penalty for like four days one time. Badgen having to look around? There is a dude by favorite loss. Dog Story were there is A. Patrol, going like a convoy, going between Ramadi and Palooza, and one of the dogs got out to go. Take a shit or take a Piss, so the handler. He was an SSD dog. The handler took him off leash because SSD. Dogs are trained to come back I. mean are off, Leash. So they can go out and go out fifteen hundred two thousand meters away from you, and you can call him back on. Commander was like a radio or something well. This dog just I guess he just was like fuck it. I'm tired of riding in this hottest I'm be. This is not what I WANNA do in my life and he was just like. Gone into the judge and he didn't come back. The guy was hit. The handler was hitting the shock collar so far away back to the vehicle and be like guys who. Always I mean because you only get out like fifteen meters away. When you're going to the bathroom, you just let them out usually. Hold them on a leash, but because a lot of the SSD dogs. Off Leash they don't want to go on leash, so he just they just took off and they stayed for like forty five minutes. They took up patrol to go down and look for this dog. Eventually, the conflict commander called back and he was like I don't give a fuck about. The dog will put it down as a loss. We gotta go. We're in like a dangerous thing. What's that? What's that? What's that cost? What's what's that markdown is? Like seventy five grand I mean it's a lot. Maybe more for e probably closer to one hundred because. The amount of time that. The initial training, and then it training with the handler and things like that even the money be Dan, because when we talk about like the military budget, you drop a fucking five hundred that's tens of thousands of dollars, so that mount of money and it. Really is nothing. Didn't they? Go Back! A, back like two weeks later. This. I had a brand new idea. Homeward bound to Boston pollution. Couple of wild dogs get out. They need an Afghan cat Sassy. Always. I know it's not the case because all the working dogs are neutered for the most part I mean. Occasionally, you'll find one that's not. Let you go back because you know the old jokes about like you go to Vietnam and there's some kids that have like blue eyes and blond hair do. All sorts of kids on the streets of Iraq. You like you don't look like you're from here. Same thing with these dogs like you are not a normal Iran mangy little fucking. Mouth all righty, lady and the TRAMP. It's just like an hour of Mallam. All one of those pounds yeah anyway. Spaghetti they're just having some nice missing some philophical for that, so this movie sunny. Hopefully. There's not an errant artillery round down range when there's a lost dog out there in the desert yeah. They call that I. Have a working dog who's been sitting on a metal chair too long and I. CanNot. Remember one here we go. Get into this is David exe at Forbes an experimental mach? Five missile accidentally fell off a beef to test plane during trial over California this week. The Hypersonic Air Breathing Concept Missile or Hawk was destroyed when it struck the ground at Edwards Air Force Base Darpa. Darko wanted to come at us about thinking about those. Are By your own houses fucking order yet. Don't throw stones at a glass. Go full. Told J.. Mock five is three thousand, eight hundred thirty six miles per hour pretty quick, so this is one of the several superfast missiles that the air force is developing in order to help its ancient, if this one of the super duper ones that they were talking about Super Duper so it's yes super-duper mother of, but anyway these ancient B fifty two's. They're like we're not going to update, and we're just going to strap cool new bombs to him. So this is part of that to help. Poke holes in China and Russia defenses if If the scrammed jet meaning the missile has an engine and breathes air like an airplane does so. It's kind of like its own clay is like its own plane of Death I. Guess You could say other hypersonic weapons such as the air rapid-response weapon boost to hypersonic speed top rocket, but then glides at five times the speed of sound, not the thing you want accidentally falling off your airplane and going rogue like it does the dog thing detaches, and it's like fuck it. I'm out of here. Just like takes off across the Pacific. So anyway, this is kind of a big deal that the test is not going right. Because Congress gave the military two point six billion with a B. for hypersonic research this year. So when you say that lose fifty grand dogs like nothing. We can afford that. As part of that overall funding the air, force got twenty million to develop the hawking twenty twenty as well as two hundred, eighty, six million to work on a couple, other bad boys, the Air Force One type of sonic missiles badly in order to complicate Russia's China's own planning, and somebody said we carry of them unabomber, but we could also carry them on our fighters not opens up the entire air, force quiver, and I don't know what an airforce quiver is, but that was will roper a top weapons buyer for the air force wouldn't job to be the top weapons buyer for the Air Force. That Guy Fucks. Sorry. That's probably too much. That's right. He's throwing something. We'll roper now let's do you ever see the top Air Force Guy for weapons come in and your ass all sweaty metal chair. You're no, it's totally not normally like this. He's trying to sell you a weapon. Here heard that thing goes, mop five and air to ask. So, anyway, that is sure we'll real enjoy that. But again, so these high Falutin big deal kind of things car Guy Kyle picture will roper Oh. He's got one of those John. Travolta budgets and he probably know yeah. Right that's Don. CAST so anyway. Spying over it falls out of the sky, not great I would love to be the ones because you know so many people are watching us. It's kind of like that scene. Where Kim Jong UN is watching his artillery. What they're doing and you're sitting there because. They spent two point seven billion dollars, or whatever developing this weapon there some high ranking folks that are watching this demonstration. Go Down, and then they have to get on the radio and it's like pse poos. Christopher. Accidentally. That the thank very expensive missile that breeze air like a human go mark. On And here's the thing to know like who was the one because you know, it's gotTa fall on somebody. Everybody else has gotTA WATCH THEIR ASS till it falls on somebody, probably the lowest ranks going to get it, but. Near yet so I. was just not strapped in well enough. Did somebody accidentally hit a button? Like? How does a mock five missile? Multiple layers. Oh can't fuck this up. It's tight almost five fifty cord somebody cut. Yes what? Thing happened to me. You always think these checks are in place I was doing. This has nothing to do with the military whatsoever, but I was looking for new insurance today and going through and I was on a website I won't say the company's name trying to switch over to them and because I think I'm paying way too much and insurance, and so I was going to a different place, and it said one hundred eighty seven dollars for your every month for your three cars and I was like that's not bad. That's a lot better than what I'm paying now well. Well, then they say oh, we found this claim on a stolen vehicle for this much. We need to add that in. And then I said okay, and then they said we process your payment. You're welcome, and then it went up by like fifty percent seventy five percent way more. You think there'd be another screen that I have to say yes I agree to this coverage in this price in this plan, and all those things it wasn't. It was automatic and I called. The place told them what happened, they said. Oh this like the third time. This happened. Today is probably. Should look into that. Maybe the person who is the bomb release was trying to buy insurance online while they were in the air, and they accidentally hit the wrong button. And then what if you on like an APP? On your phone and you're trying to? It's frozen, so you're trying to close it out, but instead of out you actually click okay. One of the bomb discoveries leading. It was real slippery. Oh God. Let's round number two. We got for round number two conwell. Start here because this is kind of your neck of the woods little army. Time I was in the army. Once upon a time spent some spent some years. They're in obviously CD. the hot. The hot button issue right now has been the confederate flag and the confederate statues, and the naming of various bases across the military that bear confederate names, and removing them rightfully, so because of what they represent, and there's some news this week. Coming from NASCAR, they released a statement. Statement they said the presence of the confederate flag at Nascar events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all fans are competitors and our industry, bringing people together around a love for racine and the community that it creates is what makes fans and sports special. The display of the confederate flag will be prohibited from all NASCAR, events and properties, so I, say really quick. That collective sound that erupted when that tweet went out burns, our burn hanging out perfect fire. How's it going? Thank dying quantifying I'll. What was your first? Whenever that tweet went was your first instinct. What would what did you do? I. We work. We work in this. Yeah, we learn his car. We've been to several races and you could tell they're trying to grow. And they said part of the responsible kate. What did you actually do? Suck I retweeted it, but. I. To those comments like. Dude I went there and I went to the NASCAR, read it and Oh what. Is Yes. Liberal pussies the best time it was. This comedian that I follow. She was like I'm just here in the comments for the same reason, I go to NASCAR events to watch the REX. Deep. It's like I'm gonNA. quit and sell all my shit and somebody was like dude. You haven't finished better than thirty second in the truck series. Nascar driver ever yes, see yeah, so definitely a collective, but one of the comments I started seeing popping up. I thought myself was. If you ain't I last and the Navy the Marine Corps the Coast Guard, all the other branches have said all right confederate stuff were done with it. Get it, Outta here. NASCAR has said we're done with it. Cons wants. Bouma filed for whatever reason they're dragging their feet the Army Secretary Ryan, McCarthy. He said he's open to the idea of renaming. Basis following the Marine Corps decision to ban confederate symbols from all of its installations. Then on Tuesday the navy announced the partial ban on confederate paraphernalia I think a partial okay. So. What was a partial though confederate? The bikinis were still. God right so. At this point your. And classroom doors have the new sneakers that everybody else has like army. Get with the program here. But so on Wednesday the president tweeted that ten bases are not only a part of American history. They represent the US military at its best. Kind of interesting he. His his rationale was the United States of America trained and employed our heroes on these hallowed grounds and won two world wars. Therefore, my administration will not even consider the renaming of these magnificent and fabled military installations. Now that's a stretch. I can tell you right now. I didn't do Iraq and think man I better. Not Let General Hood Down Right I. Hope Camp Fosters Doing Okay Goodness Gracious. General Brag think of me. An unbelievable, this one paragraph here like among the basis that they're named after. Gordon is believed to become a leader of the Klu Klux Klan in Georgia picket order, the execution of twenty two prisoners who had switched from the confederate to union brag was fired after being defeated Chattanooga and was roundly despised by his peers, even southern like that guy's a loser and hoods military career came to an ignominious end after his army was smashed at the battle national, so it's like here's ten loser vices light with. Why? Why can't Natalie that? You could have? You could have such a win like for. Politically to me. It seems stupid if you go out there and you're like you know what we're going to have. These new faces that represent what we are now what we're striving to be. This is going to be. It's going to be no longer going to be four brag. It's going to be four Grossberg after flowing Broberg and talk about what he does, and he's GonNa. Be Alive and be able to be like an ambassador for that base and things like that word of former medal of honor recipients I was going to say this is a great chance for because we can talk them out previous episodes I've been doing a lot of research. How people of Color Throughout military history had been slated have been. Not Given. The words that were do have been kind of brushed out of the history books. This would be a great chance to turn that around and have ten people of Color. Maybe even a woman God for no. But maybe even switch. Go too far. Walking around there. We actually had this issue. Because now with the way, things are in the way, things will be in the future. Things are GONNA come up. No one's going to have a life that is perfect that you should name all these different things you can go, and you can nitpick everybody's life if you're naming it after a building or you're, you're naming a building after a person or something like that were eventually somebody's GonNa, say well, they also did this. Are they did that? I think these are pretty extreme examples, but even if you name it after somebody, why not just do it after traits like if you WanNa have like four integrity or four or something like that something? That's never bad global. I own a three. Thirty now, but I mean there's just so many. Options of people that have served in the army that you could. Pick ton of them and stop their name on a base, and it would make a whole lot of sense, and what general portrays David Portray said I thought it was great. He said we do not live in a country which Braxton Bragg Henry, l, Benning or Robert, e Lee can serve as inspiration acknowledging this fact fact is imperative should failed to do so the army which prides. Prides itself on leading the way perilous times will be left to fight a rearguard action against more inclusive American future one that fulfils the nation's founding promise, so he's like Hey, get with the times and move forward, or we're going to be left behind, and he's absolutely right, and was this kind of stuff. Don't make your last ditch. Stand on the wrong fucking ditch I think it's. Just you can obviously tell. The winds of change are swirling, and you have to react to those. I think it's pretty simple. Sorry Cape though. Anything, named after confederate they lost. Their losers no matter how you shake it down south that you proud of them. That's your heritage. I don't care. They lost America's understood it I. Am from the South like I'm from Jacksonville. Florida's named after fucking Andrew Jackson like I, I am from that area. I've never understood to me. It's always been the flag of a traitor. You went against the United States. Yeah, this is what I'm seeing so much of all these people think that war is about slavery. It wasn't this is. Actually like I feel like that has been a thing. That's kind of been taught us. What was real that slavery is like all? Right yes. Please! It was about slavery. It true was up the original documents of the confederacy show, clearly that the war was based on slavery. For example this this article I went went state-by-state saint their declarations in Mississippi's declaration of secession, the their main point, our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery, the greatest material interest of the world. A blow at slavery is. Is a blow at commerce and civilization, and pretty much all the other southern states had similar as their main things talking about going into, so don't tell me it wasn't about slavery and to again I feel like trump saying like you know so many years. There's probably a lot of heroes that have left those those bases in those forts in those camps that. They're their family, members were slaves and I bet they don't love it, so let's include them in it to like. NASCAR is the head of the army because they said inclusivity more important and wanting people to feel like they belong. Don't you want your soldiers to feel like they belong like what the fuck get Outta here I'm pissed on pits, my acids let me tell you right now. These hanes I could bring about. It's I. Mean it's a simple thing in hopefully now with all the other branches getting on board, I hope that that the army will not be very far behind at this point, yeah! Get, let's move onto round number three. It's run over three. We have interview that I did with colonel or Captain Del die, and this was especially enjoyable for me. You know I it was one night, I was sitting there, watching an episode of entourage, and he popped up and I realized like this guy has been in so many handsome fuck to Oh god he is he handsome. He really is a fine looking gentleman. He's been in so many iconic enough military movies what I wanted to know. How do you go from being in the military for twenty years to now being the foremost person that is consulted when somebody wants to make military movie, so here's my chat with Captain Deldot. Joining us now on. Especially enjoyable guests for me being the restaurant movie and Television boss but this gentleman had a twenty year career in the Marines and then followed that up with his current profession, working for the last thirty five years in various projects. Some you might recognize. Platoon on the fourth of July Saving Private Ryan Mission, impossible band of brothers, just to name a few, but how joining us today is Captain Del Die? Welcome, Sir thank you. Thanks very much great to be with you. It's great to have you in. Just. To start. How did you find your way into the Marines? Because as I mentioned yet at a twenty year, very fulfilling very decorated career in the marines, before you even got into high with Seoul. What was impetus for for joining the Marines. Well at I had I had graduated from Missouri Military Academy and I had great visions of having. A stellar career as an officer. And I tried to get into the united. States Naval Academy fact. I tried three times and failed all three times I had. Played too many sports and chase too many girls in high school and had paid enough attention to the stem curriculum. You will sure. And so. I was pretty down about it. You know there was there wasn't any money in those days. There weren't great. Opportunities for scholarships on that sort of thing and certainly, Bozo like me wasn't going to get a scholar and academic. Scholarship so. I was pretty down about it and I was walking along a street in Cape. Girardeau, Missouri and of Southeast Missouri where I'm from and. It was sleeting. And I was miserable and I didn't have any idea what the hell was going to happen with my life whatsoever and I see this big sign outside of a post office. and. It's got this Miranda's lantern. Jawed Rock John Moraine in dress blues, and he's pointing a finger and saying ready. I looked at that. My said you know by gone I think I am so I went in and and enlisted and And that led to. What I think was a really adventuresome and wonderful career. I'm I'm proud of every day I served very happy with what happens so. We're good right right right so really some serendipity there with that sign. But and then joined it nineteen, sixty four, and then nine, hundred sixty five. We find ourselves embroiled in Vietnam and you found yourself in some of the most iconic battles in early on in Vietnam, if if I, if battles can be iconic yeah I, I was maybe more well known as a better way to put it well Rollie. Yeah, right time right place. Or wrong time wrong place depending on how you look at it, but I spent about thirty three months. all told on the line. and. In particular I think what what affected me most. What taught me most about human nature and human beings to combat was Ted Offensive Nineteen Sixty A. I forty way. And boy, that was a a meat grinder. They really was. We had no idea we. We'd been taught to the jungles and and sort of a anti guerrilla warfare configuration, and then comes way. With you know we were. We were in the middle of a huge city. And things were so close. You know you you fight in in jungle. an-and in forested areas and you. You tend to shoot shadows and it muzzle flashes. It wasn't like that in way you're looking. Right is BS eyeballs looking in yours and the better man survived It it what it did for me, not only did it imprint on my psyche forever. But it! It showed me I think that In, combat in close combat, what you see is the absolute best of mankind, and the absolute worst of mankind, certainly and I think anybody who's seen that and survived it. it will. It'll mark them forever now. Having said that I don't mean that it. It creates huge psychological scars. If. If we're healthy, we can learn to survive that we can learn to deal with that. That will never forget it, and I think it's a good thing that will never forget it. That's a win. Answer to what you ask the third. Great answer, but you're absolutely right. It will shape you. For the remainder, not just your career in the military, but then the remainder of your life so I can certainly. See how that would resonate with a lot of people. And you had somewhat of an unconventional career in the marines, only because you were a Mustang and you decide what? What was the decision to go from the enlisted to the officer side. Well it. It was a bit out of my hands. The truth be told. I had reached the rank of Master Sergeant. And at that time, the war was over our involvement in the war was over around nineteen seventy five. And the Marine Corps. Had A new commandant Medal of honor a man by the name of Wilson. Who decided that he was going to clean up the marine. He was going to Take all of the stuff that had the bad vibes that had come with the at Phnom. He was GONNA clean it up and we were GONNA get back to basics, and we're going to get back to leadership, and that sort of thing and to do that, it's kind of a Marine Corps thing. We're very big on mustache. And to do that. He decided that he was gonNA take some proven. Enlisted leaders senior enlisted leaders and make Maktum officers. And use their experience and their leadership potential. In a broader reach. And, so I was called into the commanding general's office, told in no uncertain terms that I was headed for Quantico And I said No. Wait because I'm I'm GonNa make sergeant major eventually and and and I don't have a college degree, and and and and in general just said shut up. And when you hear that from the Cgu, shut up and you go to Quantico. which is what I did. But because I didn't have a college degree I was Commissioned after OC ash the basic school as a warrant officer. became a warrant officer. And served as a warrant officer, but three years and then I had an opportunity to convert my commission. I was a CW commissioned worn officer. I had a chance to convert my commission so I applied and during that three years that I had been a wart. I've gone to school and I had managed to get a degree from the University of Maryland. Okay You know how that happened. You go to school at night. While I did that. And got it got a degree in of all things English literature. I, think the Marine Corps was shot to. It's very soul that I got it. But They they managed to. Convert my commission so I went from chief officer I in tenants. And, then made captain, and at about that point in my career. We were involved in the Middle East. and we had we had sent some folks to Beirut Lebanon so I went to Beirut in nineteen, eighty, two, eighty three, and that was kind of my last cuisine combat zone right I. mean you're the first gentleman I've ever met who has served both enlisted warrant, and as an officer, so I think that in itself is interesting. Gives me, it gives me a broad base of reference. Ryan and I've used that in my in my follow on right, so let's talk about your father on career you serve for twenty years in the military. And then did you just wake up one morning and say you know what I? Really make a go of it in Hollywood, or did you find your way there in another way? I'll tell you when when I retired from the from the Marine Corps. I was really a little lost lamb I. I had no idea what I was GONNA do. I I knew a few things. I knew that if I didn't do something I'd end up at vfw on Barstool and become the you know resident barfly right. And, that wasn't good for me. And I knew that if I took a job in the defense industry somewhere and became cubicle rat, I'd be a suicide in six months so. I'm I'm just not that guy. So! I got to thinking about it and I said look what. What can I bring to the table? And I drank much of beer, and did a bunch of Fuzzy, headed navel-gazing, and tried to figure out in what was my or my assets. And common denominator seemed that I'd been a movie fans. I've seen her. I'd seen every war movie their watch. And and what was common, there was that almost all of them pissed me off. because. While they were not They missed two. We are. They missed our heart. Our psychology are dark humor. How We survived things that was missing. We were all portrayed either as four SCHLUB. Drafted by an ungrateful country or we were flag-wavers. Are we were? Unthinking lifers and all of that was nonsense. And I got to thinking. You know when you're ignorant. You could do a lot of things with people. Tell you you can't do and I think that was my case. I said well. You Know A. why are they doing this? There's got to be some reason they're doing this. That's stupid. That's wrong. And I know that the truth is much more dramatic. So I think I'll go out to Hollywood and unscrew it. Well but yeah. What I mean by you know. When you're younger and I. Had People Telling Me Look? What do you do when you're not? They've been making zillions of dollars for decades making war movies without some clown like you coming in and tell them they're all wrong. and. There's a better way to do it in. The truth is more dramatic. I was having a tough time, even though I was I was finding my way in to talk to people in Showbiz. What I was finding was that there was a certain. There was a certain bias. Against military people in Hollywood and it was simply this. People, who had never served? Had No idea that. People who had served might have some creative input. They thought we were all nose. Pickers knuckle draggers are we would be doing what they're doing and make movies right, and that sort of. An and that that attitude was really there. and. They were looking man. They were saying. Look we. How could you can't be creative? You spent most your life in the military were uniform. Doing what you're told. How can you be created? And I was I was really on my last legs I tried for about a year. Out here in Hollywood, and and really had had run up against some absolute stone walls, and I'd tried everything you know, I tried the marine method I would go on a on a studio lot and spot some guy wearing a tie, and carrying a briefcase and snatching up stacking swivel and say hey, you. You make more movies. You're screwed up. Here's what of course I'd get escorted off a lot and So I was about to give it up. I was about to say you know okay. I'll go be the bar flyer. The cubicle verb are going. Go be a COP although I'd been shot too many times to really want to get involved and that's So I had learned to read the Trade Paper Daily Variety in the Hollywood reporter, and that sort of thing and I was paging through them one day. And I noticed. A little article, I think it was an army archerd column in Daily Variety. That said a heretofore relatively unknown writer director by the name of our stone. was going to do a movie based on his own personal experience in Vietnam as an infantry. And I, said Oh Christ. Here it is I. Mean I if I, can get this guy. He'll get it what I'm trying to tell him about about. What's wrong and what's right with more movies? And and I. I. I would tell you how I managed to get his home phone number, but I'm not sure. The statute of limitations has run out. We'll let that slide in. Yeah, let that would slide, but but I did. I got his home phone number and I called. And I said look You don't know me and I don't know you. What I read is true. You need me. To help you tell this story and I guess anybody but Oliver Stone probably would have had near rested right, but having served himself. Sure that bode well for you well. I made this quick pitch, and it resulted in a in a meeting that we had. And we kind of sniffed each other like strange dogs. You know jam each other's on Fridays. And And I said look. You know and I know that no actor, no matter how great he is, you ever Gonna be able to understand what was in our mind, and in our hearts, and in our guts. In Vietnam unless I expose them to that. And so he said you know. Maybe you're right and he gave me three weeks. In the Philippines. With thirty three actors, many of whom were unknown at the time Tom Barringer Willem, defoe, and and forest whittaker in Johnny Depp and Charlie Sheen. And a bunch of others. And and I took them into the mountains. Of the jungles Philippines amp portray weeks I beat the snot out of. I made them understand exactly how we thought right I. Always felt how we treat each other. And I brought them down out of there, and they and they were just mentally. And emotionally they were just like we were is nineteen year old kids in that jungle? And when we began to do the film, it paid off because they had been trained so well and under such arduous conditions that they couldn't lie right. They couldn't lie onscreen and that that came through. It really smoked through so so we made a little five million dollar movie. chump change in today's world. and. We brought it home. and Lo and behold we won four academy awards including Best Picture and best. Director for Oliver, and he was gracious enough. To mention what a big asset I had been to the making of the film. And so what happened is always people who were throwing me off the lot previously now wanted my phone number. and. They were knocking down their door now now that's right. You've got blessed off by. Winter like success. That's it that's it so did you? Having fought in the war yourself did you have a sense of responsibility to these these men in ultimately all the audience that was going to see this film to to make it right, or did you have any sort of apprehension? Set of a film that you about a war you fought in I had I had apprehensions because I had i. both Oliver and I had at many occasions of serious flashbacks because we were making it so real. And and there were some emotional pain in that. There was some psychological pain in that, but I had an agenda. And I continue. That agenda has never change as I got into this business, and it's very simply this to shine some long-overdue light. On the men and women who wore uniform and who wear uniform today. I think I think they've been mistreated in the media, I think they'd been misrepresented intermediate. We're doing better and I like to think I had a little bit to do with that, but But I I want and they deserve. Better tre-. A more understanding treatment. Because look, this is America and those of us who wear uniform serve the nation serve the people of the nation because the nation is the people. And without getting on a soapbox here, I would tell you that We. We need for that nation that we serve to understand us. They really need to understand why we're. We're all little bit Wacko after time and and what service to what it means to us. They need. They need to get a glimpse. In our minds and in our hearts and in our gots. and. What occurred to me, frankly was that The popular media is the place to do that I would I would love. For every young American and every old American, for that matter to read all of the wonderful books that have been brought out about the the war experience. but we're we're. We're trending away from that. People people just won't read. They won't sit still long enough and so the popular media is really the platform, and that's what I locked onto and and I'm still trying to do it to this day and. That that movie to kind of really set forth motion, a career that spanned multiple decades, not just as a technical advisor as we saw even. As an actor as well, yeah, did you set out to do both? And how do you decide are am I going to act in this one NB, the technical advisor or one or the other? How how what is that process like well early on? No I did I did not set out to be one. To be an actor. In fact, on platoon, which was my first acting debut if you will. Oliver drafted. He said look you're. You're the company commander? All these troops think of you as the company commander, so you're going to be the company. And I said Oh wait a minute. These guys have been to drama school. They. They've studied this and I'm just a SCHLUB. He said that's right. You're just a slug who commands men, and you understand leadership and I want you to do that on camera so I did and I have to say that the the young guys who were in the platoon. Were really supportive of it and what happened after that? Was that the critics? noticed. We don't know who that guy is, but He's convinced. So kind of let. It led to a lot of other things. And and suddenly I became an actor and what I discovered. was that I enjoy it. Because it's once again going back to that agenda it's it's an opportunity for somebody who knows the drill to portray the drill, onscreen and and it's. It's never been hard for me. Look I'm I have always been? That I guess my Irish heritage or something but I'm always that jagged dogs storyteller around the campfire. How keep out, keep you there for forty five minutes to tell you a story? That's all BS anyway and. And and I like that. I've I've always been that kind of like to entertain people like the British mile, or or create a a reaction in people either an emotional reaction or a psychological reaction, and that's really what acting is I, mean it's. It's about being able to convince people that you're telling the truth when you're not right and and. Vastly over simplifies things but. But look when when I get out a script. Sometimes, they will send it to me and say look. We want you to be the adviser on this and by the way look at the role of so Rats you know we want you to be that so sometimes. That happens happens a lot more nowadays than it used to. It used to be that I would go through it and say okay I can do this. I know how to do this I. Know I know the history of this and I know how to train the people to do this. And there's this wonderful role here and you how? Politics for that. But nowadays it's kind of I'm accepted as if you want some guy who speaks the language, and could bring some reality at all like Gobbledygook jargon. Get Die. Yeah, well as I've mentioned at the top when I was introducing you I mean some of these films that you've been a part of our just unbelievable well known very awarded. In one that comes to mind that I think resonates a lot with audience, and and we talk about in reference. A lot is band of brothers. And certainly you. You're talking about you to work with Steven Spielberg with Tom, hanks but more importantly your portraying. A unit that probably prior to ban brothers. Most people didn't know about so they didn't. What was it like getting involved in that project and working with people of that caliber? I I didn't know Stephen or Tom Hanks. Prior to that, but I got a call, and it was Steven Spielberg and Spielberg had been a fan. I didn't know this but he'd been a fan of my work in platoon. And heard about what I'd done and so on so forth, how Trendy Actors and he said? Look we want you to come in and we want you to look when you get a call from Steven Spielberg. You jump in drunken. So And that's where I met Tom Hanks and and. We decided that this this was going to be when we were gonNA, do right. and. They really gave me sort of car wash. Look, what are you need to train these people and get it right? Let's get it done and and so it it was. I actually did. Look at the role it when I began to read the scripts I did look at the role of colonel, sink. was. The commanding officer of the five six Parachute Infantry Regiment of which easy company was was part. And I said you know. I. Know This guy. He sees the crusty kind of leader. That I think I was. And I really know there. So I went to Tom Hanks and I said look At this, this was the end of our training. I went and said you know. I don't know if you've cast an actor yet, but I really need to do Colonel Sink and he was very supportive. He said Yeah. You know I think you do. And so I got cast as Colonel Sank in, and it was a wonderful acting experience. I loved I loved to portray somebody on strain met. That's A. Real I played Leonard Wood for instance in in in the rough riders with Tom Barringer as Teddy Roosevelt. And I was able to study him and find out who he was what he was about that sort of thing And in with sick. Who later retired from as a major general from the United States Army. With him. I was able to contact his family and and really research him They sent me I found. Some some tapes of speeches that Colonel Sink it given. So I'd walk around listening to them all day, so I could get that North Carolina drawl. And when you're a little mimic when you're a little actor, you you. You kind of learn how to do that, so So that that was a joy. A A real joy because I had I had trained easy. And they all looked kind of the colonel. Anyway, right, so It's slid right in fit right in, and it was a really really comfortable coat to wear at during the nine months took us to do band. Yeah and it just made sense obviously that you're. Their commander after having commanded them in technical advisor role. Did you know though when you were all filming that mini series? Did you know that it was going to be special? Did you have a sense of what it was going to be? Was this was just another project for you know it was? It was something special, and that had to do with it being Steven. Spielberg you're Tom Hanks. So I knew I knew that was going to be amateur hour. and I. I was very very familiar with with the book. Band of brothers Stephen Ambrose. And I had read it a number of times and I knew that I knew what he was after he was after little individuals stories. The Not not the big broad brush that you see in the longest day, and and the bridge too far so on, so he he focused on that one company and the and the men who made up that company and the man who led it of course Dick Winners. and. And so I knew that if we paid attention if we did it in the spirit of ambrose interviews, and then and in the spirit of the people. At the time, of course there, some of them are still alive. And so we were able to talk to them and and. And kind of. Mesh, their actual experience firsthand experiences with what we were doing, so I knew it was gonna be something special. House special. I did no. I mean to this day the it's one of those things that I'm I'm very happy. I'm very proud, but it. It's GonNa. Be a legacy. That will live on long after all of us, and and even the actors to this day. We're all in contact with each other. And we have a barbecue once a year and everybody comes in, and it's It's really it's really fantastic. We've gone on to do other things, but that one. The Band of brothers is the common denominator. DOT At. I I I can't say enough aid. Really, it's such an an unbelievable series. You were amazing and it's something that I I truly enjoy and I've watched probably more than thirty times. At this point, but speaking of just military movies in general. Do you ever watch things on television or at the movies that you were not working on yourself and kind of just nitpick? Is it just a force of habit? Sure it is a force. WHO HAVE IT In fact? My wife tells me she can't. She can't watch a military movie with me because I'll just say that's wrong. And why is it communist doing that? So. I. I do watch them. I watch a lot of things that I didn't work on a lot of the old six, because it gives me a basis of comparison I can. Say Oh my God. Come on that. That's nonsense and didn't they know better? Plain fact of the matter is they didn't with with some exceptions I mean I'm a huge fan of Sam Fuller. Anti just the other day here in Los Angeles his steel helmet. WAS ON! What a marvelous film, and he did it for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in some park. Away but it fuller because of his own experience with the First Infantry Division in world, War Two. He knows soldiers and he knows how they react. And so with with the exception of people like fuller. I'm pretty critical of the old stuff that was so. Short. But I think we do a much better job today. Thanks to the Dale Dies of the world. Also in addition to the movies and television, though you're also an accomplished novelist, and what are you working on currently? I. Thank you for the for the adjective accomplished. I'm I'm I am a novelist The thing about me is that the motion pictures and television where I've made my reputation in my name? They only do war movies every once in a while and I wanted to keep at it. I wanted to keep hammering that agenda mine. And so a being a creative type with degree in English literature. You know I decided. I would start telling stories and books and I did that and I. Think Today I've got about thirteen or fourteen novels. That's unbelievable. The current one, thank you in fact, my wife and I started our own publishing company because we got tired of the New York. And we started a company called Warriors Publishing Group. Which is an offshoot of my company Warriors Inc, which is technical advisor to movies tolerant. And and we've. We've done just magic. We've got some. Some great titles including mile, but not necessarily just my on. We didn't do it for that reason. We've got for instance Delvecchio's thirteenth alley. A Great Vietnam Book. We got the reprint rights to that and we not publish all of his books. But, my books I've been a great fan of Lee Child. And a Jack reacher character I mean I just tripped my trigger I? Love that allow I've never met Lee Child I would like to on these days. So I, decided you know. Maybe I'll do series with a recurring character, and so I did I started the files? Series of books in the character is a retired marine hot. How `bout that by the name of Shake Davis? and. The Hook to the books he gets himself involved in all sorts of. Precarious situations around the world working sub Rosa for various intelligence agencies that sort of thing. But the hook. Is that in each book? Either gets involved in our revisits some famous battlefield. The chosen file he goes to North Korea. The Beirut file. He goes to Beirut. Aztec file goes to the halls of MONTEZUMA. And the most recent one that ninth book in the series is a book called Delta. File Watch this. This should have good I. Am at this. It's called Delphi there you go and. And it's it's more personal than all of the rest of you. Get you get a look at who shake shake Davis is. And where he came from, and that sort of thing, and he gets involved in an. Adventure while he's retracing his boyhood footsteps. Let's fan they're all available by the way on Amazon as e books in any format that you want aures publishing group will. That's fantastic You know I. I I. Think you strike me Sir. Someone I could talk for hours on end, but I've taken a lot of your time already and just know that I really respect the fact that you. Found your way and became very accomplished after your military career so oftentimes veterans have time finding their way. You certainly did that in carved out a tremendous life yourself working in Hollywood I'll just leave you these last two questions. Quick questions. Before, we row, but before you do that, let me say that's a very high compliment from you because I do it for guys like you, we understand. Now. Carry on with your question I. Mean You've worked with unbelievable people so real? Quick favorite actor you've ever worked with. Probably. Tom Barringer Tommy Lee Jones. Tom Hanks. More time, and so all the. All the time. Morgan Freeman. Great Guy to work with. I mean he's. He's pretty accomplished himself. So that that's a great answer and then I feel like I might know the answer to the second one but favorite director you've worked with. There are a number of them. I really like a director by the name of John Doll. WHO DID THE GLARE GRADE? I like Oliver Stone although nobody else seems to And I think. Steven, Spielberg, that's the answer I thought you were expecting. is is wonderful to work for. what the the directors who are who are really close to my heart are the ones who use me properly. Keep me at their elbow and an let me help with performances and that sort of thing. Because I I now speak the language that they're actors. So. Those guys are terrific. And it's probably six or eight more. You caught me flat flat-footed, so take those as a start right well Sir I appreciate your time today if you ever find yourself. On, a movie about a veteran turned podcasts or I'm happy to help. Consult on that. But for today I appreciate. The Way Hollywood is gone. It may be. That's the only thing we could do. Is Movies about podcasters in a remote fashion? Well I'll be ready. I'll be ready when you make that phone. Call good thing. Everybody there. At your headquarters, I'm sorry I did get to meet the other two, but maybe we'll do another one later on. Absolutely, that'd be fantastic, so thank you very much. I appreciate it my pleasure, thank you. Great name to. The name. Name. Looking at saving private Ryan Rules of engagement starship trooper mission impossible Sergeant Bilko like so many good. I don't know just pretty cool looking. The code. Yes, he was the only one who had a haircut. And Yeah. That's really cool though I mean I could easily that the way he tells stories fantastic, and I could listen to them. Tell stories like that I had so many more questions than I didn't even get so hopefully. We'll have him back another time. He was an absolute, lovely, lovely man. We're going to try to get this next person that we're GONNA. Talk about round number four on the show as well. Her name is Kathy Sullivan. Tell us a little bit about hurricane. Yes, so very cool cabbie solvent. America's first female spacewalker also became the first woman to reach the deepest known point in the ocean. Stunt businessman has been the highest and the lowest of all the women in the world. Sullivan dove to the bottom of the challenger, deep and safely returned in its her submersible vessel on Monday. Now the eighth person to reach that depth in the Mariana Trench thirty five. Thirty. Days. Put this on the sheets. She only has yourself to blame. A wrote this out. Number got kate. Thirty. Thousand Eight fifty three. Fifty three field under the western. Pacific Ocean a call was made between sullivans vessel at the bottom of the ocean, and what a stunt! She goes to the bottom of the ocean and ring a Ding Ding. She calls the International Space Station from down there. What what the delay is like I probably watched. The call. We add a baby. It's a boy. Click. Homage to Sullivan's other historic venture. She became the first American walk in space in eighty, four as a hybrid, oceanographer and astronaut. This is. What. Eighty, four and nineteen eighty-four. Landline this is though as a hybrid oceanographer and astronaut. This was an. Wow yet to say both of those things in one sense, this is again. This is Kim level That guy who has like the world's best interest that we ever had before. Oh, Johnny Kim Johnny Kenya Yeah, so anyway once in a lifetime day seeing the moonscape of the challenger deep, and then comparing notes with my colleagues aboard the International Space Station about our remarkable reusable inner space, outer space craft I send impressively release the two groups of humans, using cutting edge technology to explore the outer edges of a world is highlighted in the vast ban of human endeavor at the same time, linking us closer together, fellow explorers, the first two people to reach the challenger Deep, and this blows my mind. Located in the south end of the Mariana Trench about hundred ninety miles southwest of Guam were Don Walsh and jokes picard in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, I couldn't believe they did it in nineteen sixty. They went all the way down to. pry Lot more dangerous in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, with whatever technology they were working with back then. Yes, crazy. This is very peaceful down there that turn thrusters off lean back in the cockpit, and enjoyed a tuna fish sandwich, while very slowly drifted just above the bottom of the defense place earth, enjoying the view, so holy Shit Balls so Avatar Titanic Guy James Cameron. He also went down there, so he. He went down there alone, but only should balls so be nearly seven miles below sea level is just banana, land, and I firmly believe firmly I stand on this their stuff in the ocean. We still haven't found yet and still have not discovered, so I can only imagine she might have seen some things that the rest of us are not privy to, and I'm jealous of that. Sea, cucumbers or autumn weighed. Down there the pressure down there. They said it's like the equivalent of having one hundred elephants. Stand on your head like you would tiny little week, and you are just toast. You're just crumpled and squish down so. I look just Kinda. Pass these things off as a society because we just assume like all like whatever, but like to send people into space, and then to send people to the bottom of the ocean is just a feet of science. That of us cannot even wrap our brains around. No, I definitely can't. When I was watching the two folks that just went up to the international. International Space Station, and one of the guy was interviewed in the other one was standing there with a stuffed animal of like a dinosaur that's floating around. I'd be doing all kinds of shit I'd be stunned every second I got, and I would be like Oh. Yeah, I'm in space whatever when they're taking the little pictures looking down and seeing what Earth looks like. It's Blue Ball. It has to be overwhelming. You're smart enough to wrap your head around where you're at when you're in space like how you look around, and but I'm in. I'm in fucking Outer Space I. Think about that now there's a luxury vessel. Okay. I have a luxury vessel I pull up to your. House Safety one hundred percent. You're not you're GONNA be safe. But you can only go to outer space or to the bottom of the ocean with me and a bunch tuna fish sandwiches. What are we doing space space for share? Okay I, mean they? Probably there's probably less. There is less people that have been down to that depth. Then there have been in space, but if you're at the bar, you like. I've been to the deepest. The Ocean Oh, cool, dude! Whatever your? Space that's talk next. Guess what guess what? It's aluminum chair hanes time. If he goes down and says oh a hey, would you? How how did you shit when you're down there at the bottom of the ocean? They WANNA. Know how you shouldn't space EXAC- that's true, so I guess to have budget combat. Pretty impressive. I say she's not just the only woman to do that. She's the only person on the planet to be the highest high in the lowest slow. That's a stunt I. Ever heard Donton. Kathy! Come down there. We have them very important questions for you. If you'll come on the show, hey, how'd you come? To use the poop down there. When you poop! Did you come? This. Tax. All, right, let's move on number five series issue. The Lady I was talking about her about myself so. Wherever we go to round number five. We're going to talk a little bit about the protests that were going on DC. We mentioned it last week that there is a gentleman who was standing outside the failing, so is there and DC and telling them to tighten up tight up. Tighten up. We wanted to talk to him, so we brought him on the show here. He is Wayne, Kerr made. Thirty we had we talked about. AGO that there is a gentleman at a protest, it saw some of the failings off up and I thought at the time of this dude staff. Sorry his class, some Mike he's not. They're getting actress. We tracked down. We got weighed car made on the show way. Thanks for joining us. Any! So you're telling me that you accident. Get Out of this year. I was wrong, right? I didn't get out an NCO. I was just you know. That's that's that's alive. You Wanna I was just really really happy Alita, you know. You took upon yourself. Whenever you're out there you saw. Did you didn't want the protests to be thrown? I saw you wanted to voice. Be heard that everybody that was out there protests, your voice to be heard, but not in a violent way towards the National Guard. Right, especially, to was the national. Guard specifically will cause. On end probably like. One or two months I'm supposed to reenlist to become DC national guard again so I'm like. France head. As I. Escalate or like? Deflect as much as possible. That's what I told. My go like this is a beautiful situation. He's out there doing the right thing. He sees the as messed up. You GotTa get closer together closer together. What was the scene of going on how the soldiers responding to you? Okay so. You. How were they responding? So! They responded like pretty like good. Our own, but I think because the prior conversations before the actual clip now record I think because of the prior conversations I had with light. Most of them individually down the latch. You know highlight. On Pr Information and like the. Assad goes down the line to each president. I literally went down the Ri- and was like I'm here for to upload of the job ovation stuff either because. When I first got there, everybody will like shout in. Crazy crazy, crazy stuff. When I was like man, let me try to like motivate every by hand, and I let them know that I was price service and I was and I was like dessert like Sarka because they were really standoff. They weren't saying anything it. Give you a hand on. Unlike broke I'm like I'm like brothers. You know saying so. It's okay if we ought to respond back to me like I'm not wanting to while crazy approach, saying like crazy stuff from one of you kept saying my whole Oh my God. He knows some. And what was that? What was that like for you to be out there in ship? Having your voice and letting your voice be heard. It. Was it was it was amazing experience? Is this a? Is kind of like for the people like me who? Of course from African American visibly to see. Light! For who is like an who really cares about you know the military, my battle buddies and stuff out there I felt like airmen, marines and stuff like that is really like you put in a position where you're like in the middle of everything. So, like what I was telling was a marine. Our bid, who will? He claims he used to be a marine on. Yes, aid the wrong thing and I had to Kinda like save. I'm kind of like the. If you notice at you, hear a lot about how it's like a different Gupta protests at nighttime. Yet and that that different group of protest come from light mob part of the city right the really rough part. Some might tyrod. Yeah from. On race. So, we'll go through and seeing that, and that's it being on. You said you're torn. Kinda felt like you're the middle. Can you describe that? Yes so basically. It was towns where like. Okay. We had three when a protest south we. Really right I'm Tomo like Sergeant Major Leonie. Test? You're like. I can't even explain the some of the stuff they were saying to Mike. It was like really like intense stuff. On Bayonet Bangle I'm a protest are not in the Gar- right now turned me. For Fat, if I would've showed like. Upfront support alike like the guard. Hey, don't talk slightest regard. They would definitely turn. To handle myself, but they were turned on the situation I. would had you know go another route, but it does It was crazy. That's that's what I was. Really like tore I think that's more touching aspects of what I've seen like just watching. It is other black soldiers and airmen, sailors marines that felt kind of the same way there's there's one clip that were really viral where a guy that was in I believe in the National Guard standing there, and while the crowd in the projector, cheering black lives matter he's saying was. Saying to and I think it is not a political thing right like we should come together as brothers and sisters in arms. Join his together. This is not politics. This is not anything like that. This is being looking out for base. Right exactly and it's. Negga actually comes from the DC National Guard to Yet, he comes from a lot of my life. Oh, battle, buddies, postal more like facebook, instagram and stuff like that. So it's it's just an the nation's capital. You're. Saying crazy, but the mayor just like pass laws like. To stop some craziness like. A I know you know. What is it I? Think many Nablus. They just passed the law where they can't use like those tactics. You know own. Saudis chokehold in officers are responsible for if somebody's cops going too far had to step in intervention loss, right? Ages got past the DC so. Adult this would be like too much like rowdy protests anymore because. You know they can't use force no more, but also people understand like the district of Columbia. DC is different from states so even though she passed it. Is like. Okay! Does that mean? DC. Metropolitan Police can't use it now. What about? Federal because DC. Don't control the federal unless you're talking about like federal DC, so what does that mean for secret service at United States Park Police are allowed to use those tactics when the protesters. 'cause they. They don't fall under Washington DC. Has the you know the city? The Mayor Just conversations like that. It goes to show what somebody like a black man in America has to do. That's not even something that will cross my mind like as a as a white guy like does that apply to? Everybody is just happen to be eligible. You know we'll do it. Right. And the thing is is literally. If it wasn't for the DC National Guard the military and. I will be thinking like this. You know I, I would not like I will have the. Thought process and and stuff like that. Even think about, but because I joy a now i. know the difference between federal local government and stuff like that. If you really care, you have questions and stuff like that. Is. Just like be happy. Oh, they can't do this more but like. You get choked out next week by somebody secret service, so you now you like what happened I thought they said you can't do that. Then another rowdy crazy like rules, blue hoses, Orono. And I'm here out there. Hearing Your Voice, you must have thought that you are. The the moment that you were going viral on Internet, what's going through your mind? I'll man. Okay, so I had a interview with a Fox reporter. Griffin I think that's his name and. I didn't think it was more like be two. Too, big Like, sit post. Although yeah, cool and they're like. Locally curator page and started posted on. And then my friend was photography really only DC. He was like hey, gro. Is this you? What are you talking about and I? Look at the video and it's another video of somebody who's like. Or something like Oh. That's what's in your pages of say. That's why you need to go whenever you go back into the DC garbage. He said you're planning on doing year. Bring that to the first. Be like look. I got the skills. You can see it right here. This is the CEO via ship. Ability got right here. Definitely definitely boggled when I was in the ministry. Our whole goal I wanted to become drill. Aren't you know what I'm saying? My time was cut short, but like. I am now like reenlist so I'm focusing on China like move this way psychopaths maps. List so. Liz. I'm a Wachner LAGNOTA crush the duck. Oh Yeah. Beep. I had wits admits. Crush everything like I was like alleged I may. They can physically see our like yeah, so they take a Lotta reset height thirty minutes. Task Grease the takings we get past. This you just can't. You gotta come that Bro. Bags so. I'm going to give back more. The will get nutsy away. Thanks for joining us and we appreciate you sharing your voice in using that I in the right. You appreciate it. Thanks for taking the time joining us. I think that's cool. When you have a moment that goes viral when you're not expecting it and you're just out there trying to because you can commiserate like you know you've been on both sides. You're a protester now you've been on. This is where you're in the National Guard, and it's not about US versus them just about making their voices shirt I think that's important to remember and to four any listeners who have been. National Guard in their outposts up that that's not easy and I'm reading. Just reading from People's for San Experiences hell difficult. That is because you love your fellow country members and you also have a job to do. You know people coming at you and it's very difficult so I don't know I. Know That's not easy. So just had a couple of DM's to people who've been in that position now who are stressed out so thinking about sending goods away, and we also want to. Before we moved in save rounds and alibis, we also want to mention the fact that we want to do a pride, episode or two during June. Because June is pride month, we want to highlight some of those stories because. Because like Kate mentioned. I believe in round number two where we talked about a lot of times, people of Color get left out of the historical narrative of the military, so do people who are gay, Lesbian Trans Whatever we WanNa talk to you and talk about your stories, the struggles that you might have had in the eighties nineties early two thousands, or what it was like coming out. I think that those stories are going to be important and we want to highlight some of them. Still. Triumphs you WANNA share, but yeah, if you're LGBTQ or you what? It was like the first time you've got to the Marine Corps Ball and dancer, find your dude exactly so yeah, we want to hear from you and your stories and and. I don't know I just really think it's important and I think we should do it. So hit us up in our. DM's any one of us and we'll get back to you. We'll do kind of like. Chaffetz does with the with the big day of interviews and stuff like that. Have you on the show or even anonymously? If you WANNA, share your stories, just send him in the DM's tell us whether you want to be known whatever, but happy to hear from you know doth move on save around alibis. We'll start with yukons what he got. Show Sunday June fourteenth way back when June fourteenth seventeenth seventy five. My below of army was happy birthday. Also Flag Day for those warriors. Wanting to celebrate. And then also. Mandela's birthday. Wow Nelson. Mandela did not. Oh, it's awesome. I also shout out American ingenuity, because as we come out of this quarantine and restaurants in New York and New Jersey are starting to get the go-ahead to open back up, but they can only have outdoor seating I've seen obviously a lot of restaurants. Shadow wooden spoon shadow to Bradley's on Long Island. and. There's a lot of brush on this in hoboken where they're kind of adapting and overcoming and where they might not have had tables before like. Oh, well, we will not part of the street. Let's on just build some more tables out there and I just I think that's great that these small restaurants and Companies are making the most of coming out of this quarantine strong. I think that's just like the the best of what America has to offer. I wish all of them the best lock as the rebound with their businesses. and. I know cons. You and I are going to our best to support them. Good, frozen drink seriously. There you have it. They army anyways. First of all I, just the caveat on the army, happy birthday to to wish the army. You're happy birthday. Piggyback on have a couple of points I'd like to. So. First of all. Kyle does the best job ever with our social media has skyrocketed us from where we were and credible job every now and then I take the reins of that sucker and I just put some dumb up there. That is clearly not from. And I had this delirious idea to say hey, everybody techs your friends and tell them you just decide to join the military. Get who will and then tell me the responses well. It just ended up upsetting a lot of people. I'm sorry. I sent it to Kyle or to nate and PAT that I. Work with and instead of texting me back like. Blow for like a funny screen shot. They both called me immediately. I'm like. Are you okay? Why did you do that? You're not happy at work Blah Blah Blah and I was like. Oh, I'm sorry, so yeah, that really that sucks. Also look to give a shout out I got sometimes. You just get the sweetest Em's Jerry Sands. He says Kate I'm fourteen and me and my dad love your podcast, and so on the next episode I was wondering if you could maybe mentioned us. My name is Jerry. His name's Jeremy Thank you. I love you so much. You're so funny and I like. Hugh Challenge Jerry for. Me Among. You didn't mention any you guys, so it's like sort. I would like to apologize for the Shit and comes stuff I'll soccer. Idea? We went that low. Fat. Family Show Jerry sorry. Jerry father especially so especially. Sorry to Jeremy who will do our, but thank you for listening. Sorry about the. Steps. You got anything you. You GOTTA BE SAVED KYLE! himself. Now, what do you? I got nothing Ladies and gentlemen. News. Hang. Problem anytime. I also have nothing really. It's been a wild week here on a nice week. You mentioned I I'm sure you've mentioned other places. Would you like to mention you know what you got to do this week? But then I do cons for your daughter. Barbara kid a car that was a nice little experience had a little cry with her. Works in the driveway at night. No, we don't have room man I. Don't know what I'm GonNa do that wasn't something that I even really thought about. We have the devil car driveway, but all the kids are playing basketball and swimming, doing all that kind of stuff in the driveway. Now I'm not sure where we're going to put this fucking thing. Dad problems make out the build. Another one might build a bike thing. This weekend might do a little bit of goofy. Who knows will see will either way. We'll see back on Tuesday. Thanks to join US everybody and also make sure you go to the Barstool sports store. Pickup your news bt Gear. There should be some new stuff in there dropping pretty soon if you have it if anything's out of stock and you WANNA back in stock reach out to US emails. Email cons at cons at Arsenal sports that. And let him know what you WanNa see into the store. He always loved that. I forget I. Answer every email. Question and occurs. Put it to test again especially if you're enlisted then and you WanNa tell an officer what to do, just message him and say replied me clown. And if he doesn't apply back in like the first three hours then we'll call integrity violator. Can't wait for that this weekend. We'll see guys back here on Tuesday. Thanks for joining us on the retreat. Maybe, he need some more cowbell. Talk! Seizes. Do the. Bomb. Blah bill. Be. Good? Off. The? Air. On. Kingdom. was. Low. took.

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3.3.20

MZNOW with Michael Zavala

38:57 min | 7 months ago

3.3.20

"You're about to enter the world of Michael's of all your kids alone. Eunice michaels developed. This is MC now so I will early just so I could watch the finale of cheers. Oh Great Because aired yesterday or because I fell asleep watching the second the penultimate if you will Last night and so I was like well. I got to know what happens and I could have sworn to you Clark that the last scene in cheers was Sam Malone closing cheers. Yeah like for good turning the lights off in walking up the stairs. I think that's what people were thinking was going to happen but I could've sworn I saw it as a kid. Oh Okay I see what you're saying and so I'm expecting this to happen. Diane Chambers. Who Played With Shelly? Along along comes back for the last three episodes. I didn't know that happened right but I'm like. Oh that makes sense. He's going to run away with her and then closed down the Bar. And say hey. I'm done with the bar life right kind of like our friend. Miles did with victory park loosely based something loosely based on the story without all the legal issues and then they get on the plane spoiler alert they get on a plane then he goes back and then he realizes everything that he's been looking for in life. Is there at the bar has friends? Or they're You know he's got a great life people look up to them and then he satisfied right and he just stays at the bar. I did not expect that to happen. I really thought he was going to close the ball. I was waiting for. I kept pausing the episode thinking. Oh they're going to wrap this up in three minutes right but it never happened known. So where did I get this memory from you? I know idea are there are there are a few things that I kind of remember like that. Like oh I thought it went this way and then it really ended up being like that. But you know you're seeing it through a perspective of a of a child right. What kind of bar bar experience did you have when you were five and I I grew up in a ball and Board at a ball? You were the yelling kid that people were like what the Hell is. When I kid you know those people that walk in with the little Strap with the baby on their chest. That was me I was the baby. Get this baby. Red Bull Miami. I you know well. The thing is They did shoot a few scenes. What the with that staircase but not a lot would be going on when in the staircase. There's a few scenes that are actually shot outside the bar because you know they they have a actual studio and then they would have to go to Boston where the bar is. Shoot all those little. Yeah the one where they're playing with a SAM's or Kelsey grammer Frazier's car alarm. It was a norm and They had a fly all the way to Boston. Right shoot that yeah. But that's I don't know why I don't know why you wouldn't may be thought of that scene like all these years. I imagine this is what I was looking forward to was that Sam was gonNA close the bar for good. He was done with that rush. Shut it down one. Last it was the final night of cheers right. Turn off the light. He was the last one there and he walks up and I was ready to cry and be emotional now but I mean and it didn't happen like that. He just went on. Brennan the bar but like how they yeah. I like how they I like how they ended. It was very good right. This hit for the past few years. He has been trying to find a purpose to his life and then he realized this whole time. The purposes being there at cheers. Let me tell you if I was a ex relief ballplayer where I ran a bar and got the banks all the time. I would have no problem with that purpose a month. He was tired with that. That was the whole reason that he was looking for something else. Well you know what I'd trade live with him announced and Ted Danson Heck. Yeah or Sam alone. The only person I'm disappointed didn't have a better character. Arc was Rebecca Kirstie Alley in the very beginning. She was very stern like this character. And then a few seasons leaving the actually gave her a personality and some stories and some really great growth potential and then at the end. The last few seasons she's neurotic. She's goes back to being like a crazy character. Unbelievable Person Right you get to see a little bit of that in the in the in the beginning like an y season six right is he a little bit of her neuro Her neurotic ten but it just gets overboard. Yeah and final season. Oh in the final episode. Where she's like on marrying a plumber right term. Tom Barringer right. Oh that was fantastic. That can that can happen to anybody better than her right. But your the only thing you could you could have left the series that nobody would care right right but I mean in in your kinda hitting on something else. They did pick be perfect character to have a spin off rally. You've and now that you've finished cheer right so I had a little extra time this morning and I said what am I going to watch next? I'm not really ready to die back into a relationship of eleven season series. Which is frazier. Right maybe I can take a break and do taxi. Which is like what okay. 'cause I like the Loyd and Danny Devito and there's a ton of people on that yet so I thought well maybe that's what I'm GonNa do next well. Frazier was suggested next. I watched the first episode And I don't know that I'm GONNA get cheers vibes from it. I mean I like. Oh you're you'RE I. It's totally different for me. It's too sophisticated versus but as frazier progresses Econo- see where frazier starts to do the same thing that Rebecca does. He starts to get a little crazy himself and his dynamic between him and his producer. Ross on the show is is fantastic. It's awesome it's one of the better relationships. I've ever seen in a television show but it also gets Dumb Oh yeah. He Gets Dumb but John Mahoney his dad is what kind of that showdown to right the only likable kid. Well other than frazier himself right. He's the only likable character on that. Show I don't know what I'm going to commit to that I might watch like the first season and then take a break watch to seize the taxi and then go back. It's not going to be something I bench like. I did with cheers. Eat what you could do with frazier as you could cherry pick the episodes that have the returning characters peers. That's really the only reason why I want to watch the frazier series. Is I want to see the crossover which years. Yeah the the one episode. I remember was frazier Sam Go into Seattle. That one was Kinda cool but then the one where Norman and And cliff going visit frazier. That one was pretty good. I mean it's been so long since I've Seen Frazier. I can't. I can't really recall specific memories. You WanNA give cheers ten. Oh It's ten of my book it's a classic American Sitcom it's Star Trek Picard. Okay six point five in my book still going on that. The last week's episode was really good and by really good. I mean at seven like I didn't finish watching. Do Watch it it. Although you started pat on the background so the beginning part is really kind of boring. Like the rest of the series. But then as it progresses that episode progresses it gets really really good. I would recommend like the story actually starts at that point studios being tested right. He's flip the switch like ally standing right outside the door. We have a lot of people. Here they're running back and forth. It's a big deal. A lot of stuff going on Eric. Shooting some stuff here. We're shooting some stuff in here. It's a lot of stuff going on today like that. We need to. We need to test this place. There's a indoor soccer tournament. Yeah well you know. We've got a lot of stuff going. I like when it's high energy like this. There's a lot of stuff going on there All right so this clip came out I guess it was this weekend and it makes me laugh so hard. Let me see if I can get up on the screen so you guys can view it as well. I'm Eric didn't even mention the logo today. I saw it holds like. Wow that's my favorite. Is it really describe it for the people who can't see the fruit? Roll up with Eric Star. Nice one of my favorite podcasts. That made it about six up. I don't even think it made it that far. It did and they actually eight. Maybe it was canceled. Should've called the fruit. Roll up a free fruit by the foot. Sorry we were talking about that. I said it shouldn't be gushers. Deny remember podcast do okay. Oh Yeah I'm glad you're pointing all right. So this is one. And only Oprah Winfrey giving a speech on stage about balance and Health Revolution Yours. Just because you're GONNA be defining it for yourself to meet all things in balance and just so you know. I Love Oprah just like anybody else but this clip is hilarious. Watch balance doesn't mean all things are equal or a piece at all time. That sounded like it. It sounds okay. Ecstasy Oprah Winfrey fallen state and laughs it by the audience. Yeah we laughed off. No she gets back up whether I'm shoes but just talking about balance and then literally I wish mark was sitting here just because right now. He's like he's on a spiritual journey he found. Okay let me get Marc right handed. He's talking right outside my door. He's close by and Just because he's like right now he's talking about life being balanced and putting these out in the universe things coming towards him. La La whatever our marks coming in and then so for headset on and then for him to like see this. It's GONNA be hilarious mark. Have you seen this video oprah outside about your like your life getting on track and Oh God finally health and balanced out in the universe? Dj spy named to claim it. So here's my definition of what wellness being sweet migration very empowered by this bar for yourself wellness to meet all things in balance and balanced doesn't mean all things are equal or a piece of all time shoes. What God I love how. That's exact. Same other Oprah came out okay. Shattered my leg. Oh my marketing. His Ted talk on directing acting doesn't always mean about balance about. Oh that's planned for the wrong stilettos wellness beef yours because you're gonNA be defining it for yourself. Well this to meet all things in balance and balance doesn't mean all things are equal peace behind. I wish I could get like. I love screaming that I wished that happened like you know. I don't know we should overdubbed some out. Why are they with? My jumbled up like he's like five steps on the way down there's a there's a there's a split second. She looks like she's bouncing herself on. I've never fallen from two inches before. So you're basically telling me everything I feel is bull Michael Inspiring inspired. When you're talking about ball make sure you don't fall off so today's a very big day. We are doing the twenty twenty weight loss challenge. Where spider and Eric going head-to-head? Let's all no one knows where hymie is Friday. I'm I said I'll be there some Friday. That doesn't mean anything. Yeah maybe. He's all hugged double some girl in the band again. Probably some British girl kitchen. I call. I didn't know you know he took the headset on here. Giving you attitude is We'll be right back with the twenty twenty weight loss competition. Mc now tasting the brain you and I am the brain on their state. Bill Mike those know her phone. I'm on the phone a five day. A Indiana V. E. Five Day. I'll tell me on the phone. Call me on the phone. Let me on the phone. Hello my name. Is John Phillips? How are you doing good I'm just looking over your resume. You submitted with us and just want to confirm a couple things. That's that's okay. You say you are proficient. I think right at the wrong number resume were you were you the wound sitting in this For Administrative Assistant. I need to know just to clarify with mob boss If you are proficient in Microsoft word so I can just put that on there. I think you have the wrong number along. Okay well I found this resume here on my desk and it's got all your mation on it but It what's the main Ashley? Oh yeah that's not me so yeah I just I just got this. I got mixed up. No no this is a prostitute stack. I'm sorry no okay. I'm sorry I'm sorry I was trying to call back some resumes and I got my papers mixed up. I'm so sorry. Okay I'm sorry about that Do you have any specials going on right now? No Memorial Day specials. Now I'm sorry no by two hours get free anything like that. No okay. Can I bring friend like us on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash M. Z? Now you're listening to this is M Z now. So Leap Day was yesterday or this weekend or whenever it was and they had all these specials like seven eleven. Had A special where you could go and get a whole pizza for two twenty-nine they've been doing that more than just yesterday. Well this is for. This was a leap day special. That's what I was two dollars. And Twenty nine cents to twenty nine and So all these specials comme estimate said by the way if you haven't had seven eleven speeds it's way better than little CAESARS. Way Better like if you go get a five dollar hot and ready from little CAESARS. Oh I forgot you. Mike's Sorry there you go And then there's more okay all right. We're good now. So if you get a five dollar hot and ready from little CAESARS and then you go to seven eleven but they make it right when you order it right and it's super cheesy right. It's not sitting around her hot lamps like the five dollar hot and readies. Everyone's whereas by way better the fine print for the two twenty-nine for for leap day was at participating locations only and growing up as a kid. You'd always a commercial flight. Mcdonald's or Burger King. And here's a special for this period of time and it's at participating locations only. I've never been to a place where they weren't participating but now it makes me WanNa go like save money and buy a McDonald's or something just not participate in any we become like Yeah they have the two for one Ribs or whatever we're not participating in that it's full price. I sorta deny everybody everything. You're the jerk. We yeah in fact he charge extra they ask right Marshall Tax March to the beat of our own draw exercise of fifty cents right but no it says on the commercial the nationwide commercial. Yeah it also says participating locations and we're not one of those thank you we're different. We're born different. That's our slogan that'd be McDonald's born different. Little CAESARS breadsticks. Are There Batta crazy? Is those little kid at Kmart. There is little caesars in there icy place in K. Mart. Yeah it was the same I see. And then they had little caesars in there my God. We have to introduce our special guest today. She's back we haven't seen her since Corks giving twenty nineteen. She's back in. Studio to WHIP YOU GUYS INTO SHAPE. Lease a personal trainers worker. And she's actually the rating Queen of the mist She's mysterious giving twenty nineteen and you might be the final officers giving out. I don't know if we're GONNA do it again. Case just whip us and said shaping us what you want. Let's make sure he's not. He's not in here right now. Do you put that on your resume and trying to procure more clients for personal training like I won towards giving. They don't even know actually marketing yourself. Oh it's going to be given like poke classes and dancing studio with wood floors and some mirrors but yes carpet wants. Don't really work out that. Well you know the portable polls that fall you know how about that poll at what was it Posse all my God. Femi go there. We go there. We can go there. I mean it's across the street. Oh my God probably ladder waiver. There will be gunfire in the parking. They may lose a limb going to be open. That's all I need to know where these strip clubs find their shifts have some good. I don't know I want you to McDonald's and seven eleven Michael to strip club has got a little caesars. Sit Down. I'm not going to five dollars own pizza all a lap dance. Don't ask don't ask dancer for the five dollar hot and ready totally different John. All right. Let's get ready. This is the so first off. We weren't going to do something like this again. We said this three years ago. Whatever but We ran out of material. It's now here we are doing it again. Is the twenty twenty weight loss competition? And we have Eric Star yet fighter the DJ and filling in Mark Garcia for Hymie. The Tattoo Guy. Oh he decided he was going to take that Spot there yeah but close to it all right. I'm just spiders tall guy. He's this field highest spider diamond. Yes that's I'm trying to thank you guys out because I came ready as you can see you do it. Changed Pocono concede out. We were working is just wasn't prepared. I jumped. They can sort of fun all right so the last time we did this competition everyone gained weight and then we had extended another like six weeks. And then I think most everyone loves a compound or two. I think hymie one by eleven pounds. Run around the block that yeah. Hey it works but when we started figuring out the rules for this one. We're like well we're not gonNA reward somebody for losing one ow right. It just not worth that. So we're going to give you something to work towards the Grand. Prize is two hundred dollars. But we've broken down this year into three tiers so depending on how much weight you lose. So the winner is who lost the most weight? Somebody lost five pounds and the other people lost two or three than the person who lost five pounds going to a winner. Now how much you get paid out depends on how much weight you lost all right so tier one. If you lose between one to five pounds you win fifty dollars if you lose six to nineteen pounds you win one hundred dollars and if you lose twenty pounds or more you win the grand total of two hundred dollars and you have six weeks to do this now in between all of that we are going to give you some sort of bonus challenges that will do. We'll throw these out throughout the randomly during a show and there's little challenges that if you win you'll get a pound added to your total loss. So let's say you lose Nineteen let's say you lose eighteen pounds right but you went to these bonus rounds you get two bonus points are pounds added to your total loss count. You'll automatically be eligible for the maximum of two hundred dollars. That makes sense until he lost and Eric always wants the only exercise too much. Yeah I know it sounds like we're doing school where they're all like we have extra credit for those they after class for two three. Because we've given you guys the opportunity to to really show us what you can do and you'd never have so now we're making you work for it so this is what we're going to do. Is that a read some shade here since the only one that's participated so far that was directly. Because I actually I I WANNA point for. This gesture just had a chain. And Oh you'd have that seventies look going on hair open shirt earlier. They kinda did. I wasn't paying attention. He's not your legs now. You know that you're attracted to my hair. I could see I could see him six weeks for him to make that extra pound like the incremental pounds. I'd like wait a minute completely hairless right where the ball oil yourselves. Let's go to our personal trainer. Expert here is twenty pounds. Can these guys for at least twenty pounds if they really worked at in six weeks? Yes I've done it before with plenty of client. Okay one of the other things that we brought up. So we do have a contestant and has a handicap that spider. He has low T. Which in the gay community means. He doesn't have a lot of gossip in in this competition. He has low testosterone. Okay and so we have allowed him to take whatever he needs to get his Assadourian levels to a certain point to where he can actually lose weight. Otherwise it's not gonna it's not a fair you know what I mean. You're not letting anybody take any supplements any fat burners so you can do that okay. He is special needs the extra. Yes and yes I recommend now. Can you afford it? That's the other question. Okay yes you got the black market. One now is different Thailand part. We take them as well. Yeah anything about your Your Reproductive System. My sex drive. Yeah you're GONNA make better right. Be like no more please. God Exercise Burn Calories With You. Exercise that actually. Yeah so you'll be good but you worry about future children. Don't worry about me talking. I'm only thirteen minutes. Still working to starbuck discount. Can we just go to starbucks giving Kirby's discount and they I watch all all right I think like you said spider needs the sauce to even have a fair chance so we could still do it. It's just I don't think it's as fast. I'm thirty nine. Oh basically forty okay. It's never too late on but he doesn't eat and look at them. No sure that works and get plenty of people who are like well. I eat once a day. I don't know why okay we'll because your body's going to hold onto that your body needs attrition day literally going to hold onto that you're gonNA put on pounds just by holding onto that. So that's why like when you're when you have kids. I Dunno if I have kids but for those who have kids when you have kids you're taught to feed them every two three hours. That's how we're supposed to be eating our whole life and not like bill burgers and stuff every two to three hours. No you portion yourself. So you're supposed to be eating like five meals a day or three meals a day if you can't eat that much and then two snacks in between. But you have to have something in your body like a Granola bar or some almonds or something every two to three hours to keep your metabolism like to speed it up. 'cause if not that's how it goes down if you start you know eating bad and if you eat like so if you eat a Pizza Burger. How do you feel like you don't want anything? You're not supposed to feel like that. You're supposed to feel light when you get get from the table. Olive Garden is out of the question and the bread. That's that's a Lotta Cart. Now what if you have a salad once a day but Drink alcohol and beer. Okay see now. If you're an alcoholic drink alcohol drinker. You need to stick to like Vodka Moore like anything with water vodka. That's it you can't be drinking like beer or you can be mixing having cocktails sweetie and it's heavy on you. I've also heard the silver Tequila is real good. Yeah so those are the words that in moderation. If you're a week challenging a few had to go for a friend which was spider so gotTa Clark. Let's get you on the headset microphone. Quick Start Roscoe you ready. Let's we're going to do the official way and I hope our skill doesn't break on their what we got it all balanced out this year. We don't have to do math to figure out peoples weights. Whatever my elephants out effect here my God please do that. I'm going to cry today. For saving the elephant okay. Okay Fine Clark Clark is all dressed up in a suit. You'll see this on the on the television. You totally look like a sports commentator. It looks good. Wait so he's going to officiate. The the way in I finally here you know so you can be good. You didn't hear all the terrible things I said about Japan on now. I quit difficulties even though he was getting paid. We'll start with mark mark if you WANNA step over Clark. The official way in here. We have a magic number this year. Do you want to take your shoes off? You can do whatever you want you to take your glasses off. You might have keys in there. I got to raise her on my car to all right. Looks like we're clocking in that. Good to thirty four thirty now we can. Yeah you don't want to if you don't want us to you don't have to. I mean how. How else is the rest of the World GonNa know? I don't know how much was it. Thirty eight four thirty. That's not bad Morris. Melt away more than that me. Two five eight. He's probably five five five four five. No I'm just a few more inches to everything you know. I'm talking about let's let's get Erik on their next. We should've pulled up what you weighed last time. And I don't remember I think you're in like the to sixties to fifty five. I WANNA say all right. So Eric's all ready to go. He's got shorts on his shirt on. You Ready New Phone. It is giving me ideas okay. we're looking at two forty six down. You lost weight. You've lost weight that's great. You did say when did you start on your like challenge whenever you get back over here like two weeks ago but actually I haven't been doing for it. But why are you surprised that you're that low? Yeah that's really good. Surprised that low but actually. This is the one that I wanted to do. More this because populace here oppressor all right spider next. My guess is three hundred this morning. That was just my guess I would say three hundred hundred though. He'll take three hundred four hundred now. All right clocking in two eighty to eighty eight. I if you go all right. Two hundred eighty pounds. What's the heaviest you've ever been? Oh that's easily. That's it does the heavy. If you've ever visited the Horseshoe I've ever been for sure. Told her that US? Five eight five nine thousand around the same fitness earnings. Yeah I lost a ton away. I was like down to like one fifty one sixty two so two thirty four is the heaviest you've ever had me. Yeah Yeah you said this. Is the heaviest ever been been at thirty three? I'm heavy I've ever been. Yeah once you go over two hundred pounds you ever think like wow I gotTa Stop. I gotTa do something. Yeah every day as you know as I'm eating this my Gosh I learned to become If you were to cut your hair you should leave after surgery. I WANNA BE. I want people to be. I WANNA be so skinny. That people are like. Oh my gosh what's wrong with you. I didn't know I didn't know you're saying I mean start any money. Yeah I'm no. I'm going to be so small when all of Eric's old clothes good extra small but still they're all petite. Trista hours actually dying girl. Uk You so they should know about birth fine. I'm on a I'm on a the truckstop. Dia Beef Jerky inbreeding. Almonds Walnuts and sausages. Monday through Friday. I can I. Can I know? Go and sit down you a strapped. Yeah you're well back to you. Bob Dressed up in a suit. Just for thirty seconds credible worth it looks good man. I know you'll Julia. He's the best looking guy everybody here except for For your husband. He was an actor and well he was gonNA play a part in our film but every time we asked you. You don't Clark to be on it. Everybody's like unit. Just say they were looking for him whenever we were. Yeah go all right. Oh well just a recap. How did these guys lose twenty pounds in six weeks? The number one thing is eating clean so changing your diet. The truckstop Diet that I'm doing is good. That's recommend that to them. You're frozen frozen food. I just nuts nuts and meat. Saw Diet would be the methamphetamines. Yeah no I. Would they stick to Like your entree would be like fish as in Philadelphia causeway some and then two sides yes salmon and into sites as in like rice or vegetables any type of vegetables and stay away from sugar and salt so everything has to be grilled or baked or steamed And then like your entree could be fish. It could be it. Could be ground beef but ground beef has to be ninety percent up. Lean what about deer Meat Venison? That's fine too more leaner than remember. Yes it is like grass fed by semi like those are the best ones and more expensive Carson's Jewish sites. So yes and those are the best kind that you want That orange chicken and ground Turkey so those could be your entree's in the year. Two sites always rice or sweet potato in any type of vegetables for snacks are probably the best thing right. Yeah slow almonds snicker. Bars WanNa Know Granola Bar Yogurt. But do like in your men so you could do like six meals a day so but it has to be every two to three hours And then again. If y'all can't do the six meals then do three meals and then like three six and between but just to keep something in your body if you really. WanNa meet just go so It's very possible So first of all eating clean and then putting in the work which that's where I come in so real quick question because I I recently went through a weight loss journey back bragging bastard. He's I don't have from. I went from two fifty down to one eighty nine now. I put a little bit back on because the holidays and graduation Yeah that was about what fifty five pounds. Something like that But really was more proud of was I went from thirty point. Three percent body fat down to about twelve point seven. I and that's why I was going to have you seen husband. I have my little monitor. Where do you really have that? I don't have it with you can do that body fat. Yes it'd be like. I don't even know how you're still standing. There's no Muslim they're the only suggestion I have is get jumper up the wrote. Well that's cardio Like when I work out I do jump squats or jump jumping ledges or jump rope clean. So that's what works because you keep that cardio you're doing cardio at the same time with weights so everybody makes that mistake of just doing cardio and then you have loose skin. You just get slim runners body but if you want to lose weight and get toned you have to do weights and actually weights burns more fat than cardio her yet. Yeah through and another thing. Muscle weighs more than fat So that's another thing you can do it. Yes Oh twenty guarantees. Yeah let me figure out what six weeks from now middle of April. What if what if he lose more than April fourteenth or so? It's in the range of the two hundred dollars hundred two hundred s it more about two hundred dollars and I'll buy you a meal somewhere where you can gain our first. Mcdonald's I'll tell you the jack in the box pizza. Six weeks is the week of April twelve. What's that Sunday? That's the week after my twelve day. We won't do it then the week after that we will give you bonus week in nineteen th. We'll be checking. Yeah and that's it before I like. I feel like I'm going to do this. You Better Eric said last time. And he didn't do. I'm right here. What does that mean? Transforming like crazy and they're not completely eating clean but just by me working them out like I told him I got to show up to show up and I handled the rest. That's what I like. I was just show up and I'll handle with twenty dollars. Thank God you pay more money at all right good well. There's this is it. We're GONNA. Yeah so we will. We will do little way ends. Maybe here and there April nineteenth or whatever is when. We'll do the official finale and I hope that we can spend two hundred dollars fifty dollars. Oh I win that two hundred and spend it the next day favorite pleasure. I believe that Hot Ready Strip club if we're doing on the nineteenth. Oh that is a very super smart thing to do. I mean I do the same. Let me think about it. I wouldn't. I would invest it all right back. Knee needs I I He had one of his classmates here. I just talked to that while. Yay and she's in here's just like I'm actually his acting partner and I'm like you can be honest with us. How terrible there's no. He's actually really good. Then when he left the buildings on like be straight with Obama. He's GonNa show the clip of him and crazy. I did there was fantastic. He does really well. He does really well all right. We'll see you guys next week. This is M Z now online at M Z now like on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash. M. C. now.

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Hour 1: Movie Talk

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Hour 1: Movie Talk

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Because ROY and Mike were wrestling on the floor during the break arguing about Brad Pitt. And whether Brad Pitt's catalog is the one that you would take if you had to take a top five now stand gun is with us. But you're and Billy also was just shouting you change, everything if all the sequels count is one like, I alone. You get all the Rockies all the Rambos. How how does that work and you get the franchise than it some crews? No question. Right. So you're saying that we get all the Rockies, and that counts as one movie, I I don't want rocky five, but I mean, but we get the mature. Shouldn't that be how it works though? It should be you get a franchise you get to put one. This is a ridiculous rule restoring five movies period. Five movies. I send us with rules. Yeah. I tend to side with Chris on this. I think it should just be five movies. That's it. That's fine. But what I was doing was not number of movies that you could have on a deserted island. So that you can have forty movies to watch. I'm looking at anyone's top five if it's not mission impossible all of them count. As is this one as good as brat Brad, Pitt in seven like is the is the mission impossible franchise all of it. Good and bed as good. As Brad Pitt in seven its mission impossible vol out in the franchise you understand that right? Like if I were to think big diesel, I'd have to choose my five favorite fast and furious movies. It's ridiculous stand. You have. I don't know what your movie how your movie tastes run. I know that we discovered last week that standing Gundy has its horror movie and fifty years fifty is if he's a coach, Dan, I don't know, you know, what I thought about that though afterwards. And it depends on what some of the move is get out a horror movie get out is a horror movie. Yes. Okay. I saw get out. I liked it actually. So I did see get out. You get a night. I have never seen a fast and furious movie. What you have been lived. I have not seen a fest. What are you doing? I haven't seen it because I have lived out now stand. What do you watch those CVS shows? What are you? What are you doing this week stand? Well, I'm not watching fashion foul. Just watch seven STAN you say you've lived. But have you lived your life a quarter mile at time? Exactly. No. I have not. That's not surprising. Right. That STAN Van Gundy hasn't seen a fast and the furious. What's surprising about that? He's watching those Chicago movie or the Chicago TV shows on it's not at all surprising. You you need to broaden your horizons a little bit. I've been trying to knock Tom Cruise off the top of the mountain. And I can't you get tropic thunder night and day night in Dade was. Off the screen collateral. You even get cocktail. That would be take a turn. Stan. Is there any is? There is there it really did. He goes on the boat. And it goes totally direction. It's a great breakdown of that movie. It's Tom Cruise is always the same cocky guy in every movie. I don't wanna do that part of this show again. Awesome. Cocky guy, I want to know what STAN Van Gundy, what actor will lure STAN Van Gundy to the theater if that actor or actress has a movie coming out. Okay, Denzel Washington. Samuel L Jackson, Tom Hanks. Yeah. It would probably be my right off the top of my head directors. Do that for you? Well, you go automatically to score Scorsese. Tarantino? Cohen brothers. No, not necessarily. No. I say I'd focus more in on the cast. What's greatest Okie Doke in movie history. Where you go and thinking it's going to be something. I know you'd probably nominate from dusk till dawn as one of these great okeydoke where you think it's one movie and then whoa. It's a vampire movie in a brothel. I would say cocktails right up there because I thought it was just a fun Lovin movie about two guys I loved a barten- and all of a sudden someone ends their life on a boat. Isn't that how Chris Cody suggested they should remake friends? They should have friends come back and explain explain to stand your idea on this. Did you like friends the television show friends? Stan now, I didn't watch. All right. Well, he go here. Here's an here's Chris Cody. You know, you know of it though, right? Yeah. And I've seen an episode and I've seen an episode here there. But I didn't watch it really. And you see a commercial friends trailer. It's just the show Rachel Ross Chandler their wacky. They're having fun Joey midway through the trailer. So the trailer is just a trailer and then in the actual movie midway through murder. Just become the rated R movie Ivan decided who's the murder whether who maybe someone on the caskets killed. I haven't decided yet. So the closing part of the trailer is love is the friends logo. And then a bloody question Mark appears down the scream friends. No, you can't do that. In the trailer. You need people to go thinking that they're watching the act, right? And then it takes a turn my apologies of the they should have done with like the Brady bunch movie. That's what they should have done. They should've had killed Greg or something. Yes. Yes. Killer. Jan would've killed. Well. I was gonna ask you of the people in friends who is who is most likely to be a murder. I would say either Ross. Yeah. Are we talking murder manslaughter? We're talking for real murder. Wow. Always cereal. There's going to be more. There's going to be oh one person is dead, but they're going to be more deaths because one of the friends is a serial killer. No, what's better. If like Ross becomes a murderer. Or if someone in the friends of the friends gets murdered, and then they have to figure out who didn't maybe like their friendship gets tested because they have to knowingly cover up someone else's murder. Oh, wow. You guys have an answer to Mike's question. If I submit dust till dawn as the movie with the weirdest twist in the middle that you just didn't see coming. I know a lot of people are nominate crying game and things like that. I'm talking about a twist in the middle of the movie where you thought you were watching something when I was watching still done. I thought I was watching Tarantino and George Clooney star in one kind of movie, and then in the middle it just became a vampire move with the movie cliffhanger, I thought it was watching a good movie that turned into a bad movie. That's right. I ten minutes of cliffhanger, very, I guess how it's marketed is important, right? And I have a good example American psycho was marketed as sort of slasher film, but it's actually a comedy. What about six cents? You're talking about twist at the end of the movie, which is sort of diff no that's built into that. Yeah. That was built into the surprise that could never even work today. Right. Six cents would get spoiled by somebody before you got to write something. From the same canon or a similar cannon, probably unbreakable. Not a lot of people knew that they were watching a superhero movie, we come back with STAN van Gundy's basketball analysis in a second. But I do wanna open up the phone lines again because I didn't do enough with this yesterday famous people that you've peed next two seven eight six four five six four eight three seven is the telephone payment gonna has had some good ones. Eight six four five six four eight three seven STAN who is a famous person that you have peed next to like or the most famous person, you have peed next to like, I guess it would be you know, some NBA player at never really thought about that. But you know, why that happens? Okay. Gotcha. Your hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go. 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So yesterday, we read to you some quotes from Mike McCarthy saying that his firing couldn't have been handled anymore poorly today Bleacher report has a story about the relationship with Rogers and McCarthy a story about what went wrong with the Packers. I know seven of the top eight highest paid quarterbacks in the league didn't make the playoffs this year seven of the eight Andrew luck is the only one who did. But when Rogers fails that way, people will go searching for the answers and look at this by Bleacher report today Rogers, this is from this story on Bleacher report Rogers would not forget that mar that McCarthy had helped perpetuate his four and a half hour, wait and the NFL draft green room this the year prior has nationally televised embarrassment. The McCarthy, then the. Forty Niners off -fensive coordinator chose Alex Smith number one overall, not Rogers Rogers would not take that as a funny accident. This is what insured the two would never truly get along. Aaron's always had a chip on his shoulder with Mike says Ryan grant, Packers running back, the guy who ended up becoming your head coach passed on you when he had a chance Aaron was upset then Mike passed on him that might actually verbally said that Alex Smith was a better quarterback another longtime teammate is quoted as saying that was a large cancer in the locker room. It wasn't a secret. But here's a quote from a source. This thing has been reported. Here's the quote that. I don't know what to do with quote, Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron he'd say Mike has one of the lowest IQ's if not the lowest IQ of any coach he's ever had. Like, STAN what do you do with that? Because the offense did feel to me a little bit remedial and McCarthy would say it's challenging working with Rogers. What do you make of those quotes? I don't make any of it to be honest. Just sounds like, you know, sour grapes from Aaron Rodgers. He needs an excuse for the fact that they didn't play very well this year, and he's obviously, you know, going back. The story says it, you know, he's he's sort of had a bug up. His you know, what about McCarthy forever? And he gets a chance to take a shot at him. Even even a book even McCarthy. Cape up for the coach Mike McCarthy. You're like what what is the coach? Listen, we've read some stuff about Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't make him out to be like the greatest team guy in greatest leader. He's obviously very talented guy. So there's some stuff going the other way too. Let's not act like Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady for God's sakes in stands defense. You might be better than Brady. It stands defense, though, you if you're ever in Rogers, you have to pass that like it's a business and McCarthy passed up on you, and that's fine. And it was a barrister, but he's still your head coach, and you still have to go out there and try to football games. Mccarthy was good enough and had a high enough football IQ that the two of them managed to what a Super Bowl together. So I mean, Arron Rogers has to look past that I'm with you on that. We're maybe Aaron Rodgers overcame all of that. At listen, regardless. They want a Super Bowl together and this all field personal. And if you're Rogers you have to be professional and do everything you can to try to get your team back to another superman, you got to look past that. But if you're sitting on that from draft day, Mike, that's ridiculous. If you're still sitting on that I'm not doubting the reports, but you're saying be professional and make probably say into teammates that your coach has lowest football IQ out of any coach you've been around. I we can get into debates whether or not that's. Special and private moments, but publicly he never did anything like that. Okay. Without without just simply defending the coach on this one. What do you do with this information stand because I don't know how to analyze football in a way that will allow me to understand whether a game plan worked or not or whether you know, the defensive coverages were what they were supposed to be like, I just don't understand football that way most people in the media don't understand football that way. But if that, quote is accurate if Aaron Rodgers has told somebody Mike McCarthy has the lowest IQ football IQ of anyone I've ever met. If that's true. It's pretty damning, isn't it? It's deeming in that, you know, in Aaron Rodgers is mind that doesn't make it true that the guy has a low football IQ. I mean, again, people say things for a lot of different reasons, and when they have personal things against somebody. They'll say things and exaggerate things. So no, I don't think it is damning to Mike McCarthy. I mean, I'd have to I'm with you. I don't know enough about football, the no if I talked to other impartial football people who told me that that would be damning. But Aaron Rodgers saying it who clearly has a personal problem with Mike McCarthy. It means nothing to me. Standing Gundy with us on ESPN radio. We're going to take some calls here. I mean, you don't have to know much about football Xs and os to watch that championship game that the Seahawks had against the Packers know what Mike McCarthy was doing schematically and conservatively was the worst possible thing, and it costs them maybe another Super Bowl. You can tell that. I'm going to go buy your football knowledge. Excuse me. Wow. Yeah. I remember that game. Like it was yesterday. Well, my remember on gonna guess that Mike McCarthy knows more than you just a guess, I I don't know a lot of football. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Mike McCarthy, I'm gonna guess he should put the ball in the best player in the league's hands as opposed to running it with a running back that you can't name right now who is out of the league in Eddie lacy. Like his the way that he went about that game absolutely costs them a championship. And I challenge you saying Van Gundy to check your ego at the door and concede. The my knowledge is probably better than Mike McCarthy's. I'm going to say your knowledge is better than mine and not close to my car. Well, you guys things on a football IQ test. That's all I'm thinking about like you and it would score higher Rogers McCarthy options have to be X. No, right. That would be good. If we had that test. We could give them each one. Put it on the poll at lebatardshow who scores higher on football IQ tests. Mike McCarthy era or Mike Ryan or Mike McCarthy? Yeah. I'd kill it. Football is a game of blank easy. Jacob. You're on ESPN radio who have you paid next to? You can't. But I use the bathroom after Greg Gumbel, and he peed all over the seat. And then you clean it up. Okay. Very good. I mean, this is never gone with Jeremy Jeremy you're on ESPN radio who've UP next. Burns your back in one thousand nine hundred ninety two in bathroom jealous. This is how you play. That's how you play the game right there. That's that's how you play the game. I was trying to do yesterday. Right there. Tom barringer? And that voice I was in a hotel in nineteen Ninety-two Bank Holiday Inn, that's injure holiday in ninety two Brian out. Brian you're on ESPN radio. Brian. What do you got? My Granddad peed next to Al Capone in a restaurant Chicago nineteen twenty eight. Donlevatar Aaron Rodgers can you give me an example of if we were scientifically testing, your accuracy, something that you could do that's ridiculous that people don't understand the accuracy of. Stugatz. Did you see the two married? Wow. BCC's Libertad show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. Stan Van Gundy in with us. We take your calls America shortly on famous people you've he'd next to. But from this Bleacher report story, more of what I like to call reading about the relationship with Aaron Rodgers and the Packers about once a week a meeting would start up and McCarthy was MIA players weren't quite sure where he was wild. For example, an assistant coach would run the teams final prep on the Saturday before game eventually word leaked the McCarthy. The one calling plays on game day was up in his office getting a massage during those meetings, one player had the same massage therapist. And she let it slip that McCarthy would sneak up a back stairway to his office while the rest of the team prepared for that week's opponent quote. That was when guys were like what the heck says one longtime Packer. Everybody was like, really. Wow rogers. Wasn't thrilled either. And then beyond that. Some people in within the article or being quoted that McCarthy felt like he was the one who created Aaron Rodgers. And so he wanted to be like the CEO of the place instead of there's there was an ego fight their stand seems pretty obvious doesn't it? Yes. There's no question about that. I mean. I think you can see that from both sides. So there's no question there. But this guy massages, I mean, they're wonderful deep dish. If that happened. I can't defend that now. Okay. And wouldn't try to? I mean, if that's true. I mean skipping meetings for that. That does not sound right. Do you have an example with you and a player where egos got involved? I mean, all the time. I mean, it's every day every day when you're coaching. I mean, you know, you players have egos coaches, have egos. I mean, I it's going to come up literally every day there's going to be those those issues so. I mean, I think any coach in pro sports, probably even in college sports would tell you the same thing. I mean, that's just part of the job. Mike McCarthy may know more about football than me. But I know getting a massage at work agree GIS. Stan how often? How often in these situations where ego makes an where is Genesis? How often are you looking around and and and saying to yourself? My ego is getting in the way this player is right to come at me this way. I'm sure it did at times. But I didn't have problem when you know, players came at me, I mean in the moment for sure I didn't. And a lot of times when you sit down and calmer moments. The player does make great points. And that's never a problem. I mean, you're trying to get to the to the solution. So I don't think I mean, my ego is big. But I don't think I ever got to the point where I didn't feel like people had the right to question me or anything. Let me ask you this question. When is the most uncomfortable? I know you had the big the big public thing with white Howard. But when is the most that you've ever felt disliked because I know you don't care. That's not the job to be like that you prefer to be like, but that's not the job when the most disliked you felt by player. Oh, I it's always it's always the guys that aren't aren't playing enough. You know, and they really think that, you know, it's you're treating them unfairly and the whole thing. I mean, that's when you're disliked. I don't feel like I've ever really been disliked on a personal level by a player. I maybe I have. But you know. Yeah. The maybe I have. But not that I know of I mean, I know that I know there have been guys who didn't appreciate the way I coached them at times. And I know that there's. Guys at certainly thought they should've played more, but not on a personal level. I never I never really had that feeling that low. Wow. This guy hates me. Maybe it's because I never really thought about it either. But I never remember feeling that way, you don't really like to name names. But I was wondering if there was ever a time that you got challenged. Maybe in the way that Aaron Rodgers was behind the scenes challenging Mike McCarthy did any player ever come to you and say, you don't know basketball that well, and how do you handle that as a coach? No, I've never had anybody come to me and say that I mean, I've certainly had players come and say, you know, I think we should do something differently. I don't like the way we're doing this. And I certainly had word come back to me about players who were. You know, undermining me, I guess or trying to in the locker room, and I have faced those things head on with the player individually and onto occasions. Where it continued. I've just called it out in front of the team, and and and dealt with it that way. So oh, no name name me. No, no, no. I know that would make for a better show better radio. Jobless I understand that. But I'm not gonna go Jay. I'm not gonna do that. Did you ever get a massage at work while coaching? No, I have not are you a massage guy. What's the last time? You had never ever had a massage. Wow. It was never had a massage. I mean, not a professional one now. Oh. Oh, oh, baby. Oh, no. That's not what I meant. No. What did you mean? I mean, I've never liked hung out with Robert Kraft or anything. No. That's not what we were saying we are saying. We weren't saying. Of course, you were. And that's not what we were saying we were saying about happy marinole, totally legal. That. Those of you do not know the magic crate of content makes appearance whenever wants and it is undefeated. Two questions. Three AAA batteries dano. All right. So let's open up the question from the magic, creative content. That always helps us out when we are floundering. What is your favorite picnic memory? Your favorite Nick memory, what happened role. You're not a picnic person. No, okay. So ROY is your blank you have no picnic memories. That's right. It doesn't have to be your picnic. For instance. My favorite picnic memory is the title credits of full house awhile. Yeah. There was a nice picnic. Mine is being car and playing the picnic game going on a picnic and I'm bringing an apple and then someone goes and they do a b c play that game on game. One time me and my family. We went on this cross country journey we stopped all these parks, and we stop at Yellowstone and all this stuff. So I have to jelly stone. And we were there and all of a sudden jelly some of these to bear gear, and they still might picnic. When reported ranger Smith. It was pretty memorable guys ever go to the Levy family picnic because you haven't until you. Usually used to do with bad wig. Gene. Katie was a lot of fun at those parties. Cheering for some. T so people that is the official time. Keeper of the NBA is also the official timekeeper of two God's he owns a tea. So I own one Cody owns one you can to tell them to go t-. So is the official watch of the NBA each one two t time pieces delivers quality performance and traditional luxury the tea, so krono excels, a great watch for those looking for a sporty krona graph with Swiss technology at number prize while the tea so PR one hundred family of watches brings together sporty and feminine details. Very collection that is bold romantic and ideal of the modern woman shop tea so at US not so shop dot com. Do it today at select watch and jewelry stores nationwide. Billy who have you paid next to Billy? Eight hundred stadium. Frank McCord era. I'm working for the flagship I'm in the press room sixth inning about the start open. I feel the friends I turn expense Coley. Next. That's pretty impressive. Holy john. You're on ESPN radio who peed next to. Go heavy buffet. Oh, wow. Wearing shoes. Donlevatar wasting away gave him more so Rita Ville search informa- law shaker sand. Stugatz. Some people claim that there's a green person. Really? But I I'm real. ABC's live at our show with a Stu gods on ESPN radio. So at noon as got just mentioned, it's going to be Gary Payton, and he's a fabulous talker. Like, we've got to be able to get some great stories out of him. Hopefully, and then is this person's name brand done or brand dome. Francis. The Texas Tech plate random Brandon Francis. The Texas Tech player is going to come on. And explain to us why we need to adopt his team as a show in a final four that we don't care about what? Because I believe STAN that if Texas Tech is holding up the trophy at the end of this people are going to be very confused staring at each other. Not know what to do. They're going to call Tom Rinaldi? He's gonna make everything go to voicemail because he's going to be like, I can't tell the story of the red raiders. I I don't have the power to do it. I think everyone is going to stop watching basketball in college sports. If x is tech. Wins the championship. I don't know about that. They're really good. But the style a lot of people are not gonna like because they're they're great defensively is how they get it done. They do have one lottery pick Culver is going to be a lottery pick. He's very very good. But for the most part what they are just a lockdown defensive team and they're going to play against Michigan state. It's going to be a hell of a battle. I mean, if they get Texas Tech in Virginia define oh, you know, what? Stan you. Yeah. Yeah. All this defense and get it out of here. All this defense, I strong here. It is understand that. That's what people are saying. But you've got on the other hand you've got an Auburn team who certainly can can put up points and in Michigan state's pretty good offensively. So. You know, look, I know everybody wanted Duke in there. But the bottom line is the team that everybody made out to be this dominant. Team struggled just to get to that game against Michigan state UCF should've beaten them for Ginny tech, certainly should have beaten them hell even in their first round game. They weren't dominant. This was not as good a team as everybody thought. It was period. It's not so much. I wanted to do in the final four how badly I didn't want Virginia in the final four. I picked Virginia to win it. I thought all year they were the best team in the country. So it may not be fun to watch for some people. But they're more offense of offense minded than they have been probably since Tony Bennett's Bennett Virginia, they're always going to guard. That's a good team. I just I think what you don't have is. You know, you don't have Zion. That's what everybody wanted to see look really probably eighty five ninety percent of. The interest in college basketball. This year was one guy. From this Bleacher report stories too got I will continue reading the relationship between Aaron Rodgers Mike McCarthy and the Green Bay Packers McCarthy tried to mend the relationship with his quarterback. Sources say he welcomed Rogers over to his house, and once even recommended that he pick up the phone to call his mother Rogers has a strained relationship with his family, but Rogers wasn't a fan of McCarthy storytelling. He preferred to stick to the exit and os and on the family advice Rogers told McCarthy, and so many words to mind his own business McCarthy demanded more of Rogers as a man one expend says and Aaron didn't wanna hear it. He doesn't want to ever be told. He's wrong. Like, what is that? What does that stand? Well, I mean, look, it's as usual in these kind of things, you know, neither guy comes off looking very good. So I think you've got a little bit of damage to Mike McCarthy's reputation, and there has been some damage to Aaron Rodgers reputation. So these things never end up going. Well, I'm sure that Aaron Rodgers thought he could intact, you know, attack McCarthy with impunity, and immunity, but it never works that way. You also rarely hear these things while it's going on. I mean here we've got a lot of NFL insiders. Nobody Brahms any of that Roswell who have you paid next to Roswell. You're on ESPN radio. Not only next but on his Bruce, Wayne, shoes, Donyell Marshall. Okay, peed on them. What I don't understand would DJ. You're on ESPN radio who've UP next to. Kris Cantu airport spring break. Oh nine. Well done. Garrett you're on ESPN radio who if you peed next to. My dad Pete next to Clark Kellogg. It's ninety eight ornament told them he was awesome at Ohio State. Excellent. Kellog? Son. Do I have a story for you?

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Top 5 Technical Snafus: Becky//Waves//Be Water

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Top 5 Technical Snafus: Becky//Waves//Be Water

"Up. To fill that. Brandon boroughs for today top by technical snafus timely. Anderson, timely given what we more importantly, our listeners went through last week. You're explaining to me. There was even more to technical snafu than I even realized so. Can you explain to our listeners? What happen also? What happened. Yeah, I think that. If you listen to last week, you. You heard me in in the future, explaining what happened in the past and I made the fatal error of pulling a the sound card out before pushing. Stop Stop Before I. Stop the recording, so it never had a chance to finalize I tried a couple of different programs to try and pull it and find it, but I I called on Geo I called on my Coronado. And sadly the hour and forty minutes of my side, mint gone so we ended up recording again and then Brian's side stopped in the middle of US trying to do some some mop up work, and that was actually a happy accident, because it turned out that my file that was recording the second go round was. On this was not my fault this time, but there are some kind of error with a data chunk, missing or something. I don't know. So we ended up recording I think. Twenty minutes together total. Recorded about three and a half hours together, but How much how much the listeners cat? The listeners got I. Think will I. I also posted just your side of things which a few people did listen to which was shocking to me, but a few people did listen to to what I got some emails and Texts from friends of mine who listen to just you Chris, Moran for one I listened to just you talk for an hour and I don't know if you listen to the entire thing but Wow. That's commitment. At is commitment well, certainly, not other. The show is meant to be heard but I appreciate your commitment. listeners who who? Who dared to dive into the. Brian Solo show. Not Meant to be heard, but an interesting experiment maybe. Perhaps no, no, it's not I mean. It's an expert. Failed experiment it it. Wasn't rushing exercise I guess I would actually encourage doing it more often if it didn't take me I don't know probably six to eight hours to actually do all the work to make it actually function as a as a full show, which I did the following day, and then I was thinking at at one point, because I was just so tired, and still like lots of pain the following day, as I was I was paced this thing together, and my apologies to you once again, Brian I. mean there's a total just a bonehead error on my on my side of things. But my apologized to appreciate it, but it's a steak and happens I'm just as likely to forget to record or something so. I went back and I listened to some parts that I could salvage of you, and then I would record audio, and then paste it in, and then go back and listen to more. You didn't try try to. Keep the conversation going and I would always referred to. You is Brian from last night. And for a moment there as I was starting to say I was still out of it and I was thinking. This is this is a great idea. Perhaps this could be the future of the show that way. I don't have to talk to Brian directly at all. He could mail in his side and then. Areas you really were. And then it occurred to me I'm like Oh. We'll know you, you fool. You're listening to Brian Way more than you normally would. Because you have to continue to pay this episode together. I'm doing the show brain from a from a new spot I gotta stand up like tabletop in my backyard, so I'm standing. Like is there a very ask? Stand up table to my neighbor. was about throw away? I'm okay. You know what I'll take that I'll give that a shot crate and barrel looks really nice and I said I'm going to stand and talk and I like it. I can pace a little bit because I'm a pacer. kind of similar in the sense that like all. was driving around the neighborhood and this one respect. We've driving around the neighborhood and I'll just see something like put us obviously trash. Someone's putting in like for like. Taken away by the trash, men and I'm like there's a good looking piece actually why not give it a shot? And then you can use it and not feel bad right? It's like. I had this occurred just today. Actually Brian, as I was getting on the freeway, because my wife likes to consider McCall me cheap every now and again I'm smart. I'm just trying to be frugal and smart. Because of our current situation and it occurred to me. You can't be cheap. You don't have a lot of money, right? You can only be cheap if you have money to burn. I think I don't think the article. Anyone who's not from you know living roach to it, yeah? Like you, you're cheap because you have money, you don't spend or prefer not to spend or all my money. And then some I mean he asked my credit card companies I. I'm I'm living. Beyond my means, for sure, as of right now and. The wife likes cheap word out there every now and again. Like? I don't like it. All right I'M NOT GONNA. Get into anything else. That's going on right now. In the world because I did that for close to two hours last night on the after disaster and I think we've solved. Everything is three white men on the after his astor, I figured out everything and All truth being told though I I really have I'm in a different much different place than I was just a week and a half two weeks ago and I didn't know that was possible especially with by. Ear negatively. Positively about the negative side of things, because I'm always I'm not an apologist by any means, but I'm always like believe it or not Brian as far as politics go and people in general I, always try and say let's give them the benefit of the doubt, and let's see where this is going. Let's let's hope for the best here and I did that with with old trumpy over there until Charlottesville was when I finally. That was the last straw for me and it's only gotten worse ever since Charlottesville, but I understand that that was a while ago, but I will say I will say you're not very alarmist. That is one of the last words out used to describe you alarmist, yeah! Yeah and I. You know living out here in southern California. We're surrounded by alarmists and people who think that the sky is falling because it was a man with a red tie. In. Washington DC not just like. This is the worst, or this is the most egregious this. Whatever it like well historical context. It's not good bad, maybe the worst, but I am very optimistic about this particular Movement and what's going on right now and I really hope that my gut is correct in this, because and I'm more involved in want to do more than I ever have in my life and. You can call it a bit of an awakening almost or something. That's been there. For my entire existence that I've just kind of not accepted or not realized or not believed for for for whatever reason because I don't see things, so so yeah it, it's it's changed the way I look at a whole lot of things now I'm not just immediately point fingers and trying to tear everything down I. Don't think that's the right approach, but I am absolutely And picking up arms, tomorrow and I'm actually go out cops. That's probably not something you send no microphone. Let alone go. No I'm not an alarm. Have Joke, absolutely. Katie I can't even get on board with the The cab thing because I don't believe that all cops are vast. I'm tired of the broad strokes. That kind of seem to be all the rage. These days you know, let's paint them all with broad strokes, and that's the whole problem with the white nationalists among us right is the broad stroke leanness. leanness of them, and then we just paint a see. I'm doing it again all right as a white man i. just shut the fuck up and listen, and that's what I'm trying to do as well, so let's movies Brian Let's talk time so on my head, so everything's going on when you even despite all the shit that I went through with last week's episode because of my technical error. Were texting back and forth, and Brian said Hey, we should technical snafus timely, and I'll Mike how. How exactly is that timeline? What are you talking about? And it is. And then Brian's I go dd not remember what happened with last week. With the show and I'm like Oh. Yes, Oh, yes. Topic, we'll get on the second. I know you discussed things in the news and events of the world, but there are some movie news. I WANNA run by university where we don't do this too often when there's news. Big News that pertains to movies and movie going. We should address it number one. I saw that. Theaters in California would be allowed to open. As of the data's episode drops the twelfth of June. And then I saw released by AMC's. All of our theaters should be open by July. Which is quick. Quick quick to come as they say. Zoomed, AMC would be opened my app to to do the research yet, but I just assume that they would be open this Friday July, some I think they're saying. All of our theaters will be probably talked about like New York and like you know what's funny. I was the new the avenue damage by protesters looters. And Brian. Serious I'm like. Maybe there's some theaters like need like a couple extra weeks now I'm sure that state to state I, I don't think it has anything to do with looting or damages, because I think the very few theaters were were touched. The. Deluding is the least of of everything that's going on. Now it's gone. It's just was less. Conceivable Anyway AMC says all of the theaters should be opened by July is what I saw I don't know if this is interesting to anyone but it be role of the local news was on in the background and I was in the room and I was actually having a debate with the wife, and then they said theaters are going to be opening. I looked up on the screen and said quiet, quiet honey, shh! Big News Right, and they were running b-roll exclusively of my theater. The one down the street from me AMC and it's the theater that I always go to at the mall so i. just assumed all right either way. Whatever now this is, this is an interesting this to an interesting. Situation, there's only three move on box office MOJO. There's only three movies listed. That are scheduled to go wide release between now and July seventeenth so for the next month, plus there's only going to be three movies that are GonNa hit theaters widely one of them being irresistible. That's the John Stewart Comedy Steve. Carell comes on June twenty. Six unhinged a Russell Crowe, thriller I would otherwise have very little interest in. But probably we'll do very your business for a couple of weeks July first and of course tenant ends up where. All the minds behind ten look like geniuses. Now what we're standing Pat Pat always gonNA fuck and make a billion dollars. What's the date on that one? The seventeenth right July seventeenth, so somehow that's pal I. I'd have to write it out because it's not making sense in my head as I say it out loud, but somehow oh seven one, seven twenty, or if you move that around somehow pounder to go with the whole theme of the movie, that's why maybe maybe seven one seven as A. That's what it is exactly. It's simple. I just took meet and take a few numbers way seven. That's the whole from what I understand what I've heard. That's the whole reason behind the date to begin with, so there's lucked out. Is What how? And that's why they didn't want to. That's why they didn't want to push it either because they were afraid of losing that perfect calendar update start looking into August eighteenth September nineteenth. He a crazy person, speaking of Kosher Nolan I heard myself flick fest a movie. Called, the following Chris Nolan's Christopher Nolan's very first movie ever that he ever. Made the, Following right! Yeah! Following the first ever feature that he made, and that was on an episode that we did over ten years ago because I am staying true to my word and posting the the Orange County I've moved on. We're done with ninety seven days episodes, I've posted all of those I think, there's twenty six of them from like two, thousand, seven, two, thousand, eight, and now moving onto the the Corolla era and i. last week was the very first one we did and. This week I'll be releasing. It's probably already released on the patron top five remakes and then next week I'll be posting. top-five drug addicts with Doug love movies. Tha that. Doug Benson Doug. Benson. Yes so. Quick Little Plug for us, and and how great our patriots thank you very much. All the people who stuck with us and thanks, thanks to only welcome to all the new people, and now let's get to the show. We're only do that I. WanNa have some more movie news I want to run by you because it's actually just happened twenty four hours and I mentioned it to you briefly off the Air I. Know What that is, but apparently gone with the wind has been pulled from HBO's It'd be a Max Hbo Streaming Service. That you continue for about ten seconds because I. Unfortunately I'm I'm watching a bug. Drown and I gotta go fix it so I'll be back in ten seconds so gone with the Wind the classic film has been pulled from HBO. Streaming service still. Rent it, but for some reason makes a big difference that it's available to stream as part of their. program. And they've pulled it for I guess racial insensitivity or depictions of slavery or to sizing and era of. Civil, unrest or slavery or Etcetera Etcetera? Anderson hope back. Yeah, no I will say that bug. But canceled culture is. Like an ever like an ever-widening storm Anderson you that. Like an ever-widening like an ever-widening storm enters and canceled, culture is slowly engulfing everything including gone with the wind. So what are your thoughts on Gone With the wind being? Do you still there? You still rented? I suppose, but it pulled it. From there from from zone. I missed all that because I was saving the The bug which turned out to be a moth. It's probably not gonna live very long anyways and The pulled the pulled with I'm assuming because of the language because he does say give a damn there at the end. Right that's. A lot to do with it. I'm down for it, I mean. I wasn't a giant fan of gone with the wind. It's definitely a move from a different era and They did glorify it, and it was a from a different era, but it definitely have different standards and different Views on things, and it was definitely very pro, Tara and pro south, and Yeah I think it sends the wrong message and. I'm more aware of it now is. You may be as well when I'm showing things to advocates, and I'm like this is just the norm and I was talking on on the. Again a while ago a few weeks ago. Actually We're in the Ralph's parking lot so I know that it was at least three weeks ago about an episode of Adam. Oh, it was one of those old cop shows. I can't even remember which one and it was so inherently racist with a Mexican dude named pepper, and he had this Obrero. The size of a small parachute and it was, it wasn't going for laughs. who was just like these are Mexicans. This is what they look like, and it's just insane, and that's not the way things are. Maybe that's kind of more how they were back then, but it's because it was. Not even less fair back then, so yeah, we should not be normalizing things like that, and not to sound like some kind of liberal snowflake. But I I'm totally on board with on normalizing things that we believe are could right like when. I see sorry. I'm waxing, but when I see like a down, Syndrome on sesame street I'm like that's f. an awesome, because fucking off because it's normalized insult, atticus will be watching that and then when he sees. Somebody with down syndrome or a disability. It's not like brand noodle. Weird. He's already seen it on TV. interesting. I didn't see you. Necessarily going the way of fine good for them. I see the slippery slope of like. Just it's just one after another. It's to me. It's no different than like like the Alaska. School board banning to kill a mockingbird for whatever reason for the? Answer for. For conservative reasons like yeah, banning books are banning movies or just the slight. Edge toward that, which is like we're pulling it off are screaming site. It's like this nineteen thirty nine movie about the eighteen sixties like this is a historical Brian how we looked. Back, then totally understand what you're saying and. I M Mr First Amendment Guy. You've heard the things that I say I. Do not take for granted I. I absolutely love and appreciate that first. Amendment as much as just about anybody. Does get banded about a little bit too too much for my for my liking, but it'd be one thing if they're just burning all of them and pulling them from existence. But that's not the case, HBO, so it's not on HBO anymore. They gotTA. Limited libraries it is, and they chose not to include that in the library. There's plenty of other movie chose not to include in their library because they don't think that it's going to bring in anymore. Anymore subscribers in it's it's. It's fiscally responsible for them not to why not have some moral responsibility? It's not like I. can't go rent it off Amazon or buy it if I want to I, there's still plenty of opportunity for me to watch. This Steve Myself in this. If I want to Earth I need a reminder of how things used to be, but it's. It's still available. It's just an eight. HBO's not distributing it anymore. I'm fine with that. Fair enough a lot of good books that aren't called to kill mockingbird that you could force down highschoolers throats. I mean if anything It's GonNa. Make people hate that book at like it did me. Would they force me to read that book so I? Hate that book you named Your Son. Atticus had nothing to do with that book. Not How dare you. Had to do with the guy from my nine inch nails. Oh thanks a lot more sense. You really really do love movies. It's a ban on a movie, but he did score a movie that I'm GonNa be talking about inflict cash this week. Let's get. To. Confess. Sorry just get let me get some fan. Fiction and I I want to hear what the listeners have been watching all right so every every every week. Mitch Burns compiles a list from people that Let us know what you're watching there on whether it's. Twitter or facebook I think we're GONNA. Start incorporating our instagram in there as well Check out over an instagram. We got Jordan doing some really good work over there and I think we're going to do like I. Ask anything. Brian you down to do like a live instagram thing on our instagram feeds sometime soon. maybe have a cocktail or something down. Absolutely all right? I'll be doing that by myself. You can ask me anything you want about what it's really like to work. With Brian I'll be over there and instagram soon more details coming soon so go over there and log on and start fallen is over on Instagram, Anderson and Brian at Anderson and Brian so here. What the listeners are watching a few I'm going to do my favorite one last Diana Vanya camp friend of the program part of the program. She's over there Scotland. She's got. She's got another one force this week. Black Rock disappointing she writes. The love birds, not genius, but there were a few chuckles so those two movies she saw. Thank you for moving on from the shining last from last week and then Kyle. Was Up Kyle. How are you? Buddy finally caught up with Briggs Briggs be bear I remember anders, recommending it but I found this movie to be just straight up delightfully delightful, funny, original, interesting, filled with likable three dimensional characters. It's a to ninety nine rental on Amazon I full on, agree with you. I love that movie plus Phil Lord and Chris produce that movie. Brian the be the guys behind twenty one jump, street and Lego movie and. Many other At the Blues Man on twitter said he saw tough guy. The Bob Program Story of this hurt. This one hurts me because I still have not seen. It's been sitting there my cube for months now it's on prime very good documentary about the on and off ice, troubles of the legendary initial enforcer of eighties and nineties, fascinating, sad and lots of Stalin for tough guy era of hockey, and then finally Mitch. Msci daily on Twitter, Yeah Mitch, I see you watch capone, honestly, what a waste of time! Nothing quality here! It's like a it's like someone said. Let's remake a more with Al Capone what an APT description whatever? I can't even tell if Tom Hardy did a good job. He just grunts and growls through the whole thing Also watch the turn. It deserves. It's F. Cinema Score, and then finally this is from sick nuys who we know. We've played some of his musical stylings as a featured artist here on the on the film ball and he writes I saw primer next week. Pretty Good Shit, right they're! Pretty Good Shit, pretty sweet I saw primer next week. Pretty good. That's pretty. Bad. Really Good Shit. They're sick. That's really good shit. Okay time for us to confess the flex. We've seen in the last week. We'll call it flick fashions, Anderson, how many movies you have! I got three. My power went out for twenty four hours. Is Green, Rice. It's all really something wants dog. Is only involved transformers because our transformer. I know because you were being attacked exploded above our house. Luck. fucking fire sparks. Anderson's smokes I. Tell Ya. All right. Let's. Let's. Let's start off. Let's start off with the oldest to newest. How that as I worked for. Five for me. All right. I signed you a movie. Brian was designed the film Thing both saw the same oldest film. Yes a classic according to many people, Anderson assigned me. The big chill threes the big chill written and directed by Lawrence Kasdan. Starring a ensemble cast of. Soon to be. Big Stars Kevin Kline Glenn Close. William hurt Jo Beth Williams Tom Barringer. Place Jeff Goldblum and make Tillie Anderson. Why did you assign me the refreshed the audience's memory while you're Simon the Big Joe? So I was getting to a last week. I was GONNA flip facet. I choked down Studying, the year of film in Nineteen ninety-three for my other program over there cinematics, I ended up landing on a different movie from nineteen ninety-three called streamers, which is all about? Being gay in the military and it's based off of a play, and it's four lead characters. It's a four hander and interesting to our. Our deep audience I should say I guess I'll say here deep as in like going way back to love line days Streamers Robert Altman film, but more. Importantly, it's David. Alan grier very first IMDB credit, and he's GonNa leads, and it was very fun watching David Enrique career from nineteen eighty-three. But I covered that one at length and I'm. It's one of those movies I'm not sure if I liked it or hated it. I I I really can't tell it's for me. Can I ask you a footnote question? Because very randomly on the I guess I guess on the Corolla Show I think we're talking about hold on I'm going to try and do a real quick research here. Oh the director Peter. Gates, who did bullet and breaking away and a few other movies? It came up that he did. A movie called the Dresser in Nineteen ninety-three. Insist you're studying the year nineteen eighty-three. Have you come across the film? The dresser because God that I, mean listen I like to fancy myself. One a couple of things about felt I'd never heard of the Dresser and the dresser was nominated for several. Picture. Including Best Picture and I had never heard of this film, so it was on my shortlist. I've not seen. It was on my shortlist of of what we do over there, not trying to give us a plug, but every for Patriot. We just pick a random year in between nineteen, forty, nine, hundred, ninety nine, and then we each watch a movie that. That we have not seen, but I've always wanted to see from that year, and we make sure that streaming on one of the big platform so The Dresser was not streaming on any of the big platforms when I checked. So that's why. I did not cover that one I probably would have. The big chill was also on my list as As a possibility, but I ended up landing on streamers just I think because of it being David, Andrea is very first, and in a dramatic role and his first ever imdb credit I was really curious, plus I got a real blind spot for Robert Altman, but soon after the that movie began I I was reminded as who I have. A blind spot for all is because I don't really like most of his movies. I hate the camera. I hate the way I can't stand. It can't stand it. Brian, the the slow push ins or zooms and pans. I can't stand them Oh. Look at actors doing something interesting with his face. Let's slowly catch up with it and then push zoom in. Feel like I'm watching soap operas terrible. Fair enough. So I always apparently, being onstar stars is killing him in. A style Dude Stars. It's crushing it this episode. Wait until you hear what stars is doing for this episode doors stars is the new HP. Let's let's all just. Get where they might have not might not have any strong original programming, but stars has all of our picks. I just got a news. Alert on stars is going to be streaming gone with the wind. Joke. No, of course. That'd be real weird move, but somebody's got to pick it up Pluto or somebody. Yeah I'm not trying to call Pluto out. Crackles. Got It now. Okay, so I've always been curious I've seen chunks of it. When I was very young member would be like on onset HBO I'm talking back to the big chill now and it always just board the. Board meet to pieces because it was well beyond me and I finally bucked up and watched it because during this time where we don't have any new releases are not as many though it's a good time to go back and see some of these like I said last week and I was GonNa flip fast and I'm like you know what I'm curious to see what Brian thinks of this. Because I did not enjoy the big chill, I did not enjoy those characters. I did not enjoy spending time with those characters. William hurt was I mean sorry John. Hurt was no William. William hurt was. Despicable in gross. What are your thoughts? Let me said so. Yes sir. I'm always. Refer just sort of a classic movie. My parents liked this movie. They always had the soundtrack. boomer movie for sure that's for sure I was surprised Anderson to find out. There was just sixty eight percent or run tomatoes, despite being nominated for best picture, best original screenplay and best supporting actress. Glenn, close. Her performance I watched the film. Sixty percent feels about right. I am. Someone in our page was very confused of why I say. It feels about right at feels, but I would expect. To gambling on it, you might have guessed. Well after seeing it I would say yeah. This is actually you what you would have guessed higher because you would have seen that. It was nominated for a bunch of awards, so that's. After having seen it now, it makes more sense because. Personally I'm wavering back and forth or whether or not I would give this to stars or three like. I didn't really enjoy it I. Guess I can kind of a I mean. Okay, so here's here's. Above average, or is it like perfectly average because it's an above ours movie, some serious flaws, yes, and I think the biggest flaw is the characters are just not likeable. And maybe they were at that time, and a lot of time has passed since then, and maybe these are characters that people can relate to and identify with more, but the whole point of the movie, so the whole setup is they're all coming back to haven't seen each other Most of many of them haven't seen each other. There's like what was called their college friends and now of. Of course there about thirty thirty early thirty s right, so they're all coming back into this town that grew up in Kevin. Kline's character still lives there with Glenn. Close and a nice big house and there are. They're all staying in the big house almost like a big AIRBNB right and they're all catching up and reconnecting for their friend's funeral Alex who has never shown but Brian? You'll have some interesting things about Kevin Costner. There I think for us because that's what you wanted to talk about last week, right? That's all talk about. So we just hang out in the house with these people, as they lamented Alex's death and talk about themselves, and the whole point of the movie is kind of like the death of the hip, as far as I can tell it to the death of the Hippie and the birth of the Yuppie it really works in that sense, because it's a movie of its time, and it's one of these time capsule movies, and we can get a sense of. Of what was going on I think at that time with people age appropriate pull in nineteen ninety-three, and why they responded to so well to it in another thing that I give it points for is that these are all people who knew each other very well at one point in their lives. At least so there's it would have been to to write. It would have been very difficult to write exposition so there's not clumsy and Over the top and I've heard that from people. 'cause I got some friends of mine. Who loved this movie? And they say that you know it takes three or four times to really access an odd. What makes it so great? I'm? Spending another minute Tom Berringer's character The actor is the only one that I found. That I that I enjoy being around, he's he's. He's also till the least bit engaging like we talk all the time about how. Anti Heroes and unlikeable characters as long as they cut a pop. You know what I mean like. None of these characters were engaging your interesting I didn't want to spend any time with any of them. I guess aligning. Relying is it the kept going from character to character like thank. God I have to spend more time with. This guy. And then they're characters. They're actors that we've seen in other roles that are quite engaging, but for whatever reason with this particular movie. They. Didn't work for you or I so I was I was just curious to see if it would work for you south. Goldblum was legit annoying like I i. that's hard to do. I think. Yeah, he's one of the most engaging I've met him, and he's like the sweetest engaging man ever. He's just a little horn dog in this movie. He's just trying to get laid through the whole movie very knowing. Yeah. It's funny because I think what I think I. Have a new like like standard bearer for member berries. About member. That's all of this fucking movie is. MEME like. The fucking soundtrack is completely. Out Love. I'd love to every song, but none of them made sense, so the movie has odd pattern of heavy dour dialogue. That's about someone killing, themselves or Bob Dole will have a baby or or just fucking. This merciless. A dialogue and their transitions abruptly upbeat musical interludes. Kevin Kline dancing in the kitchen to it. Though so it's OK well I guess it's odd Glenn Close beaming in the corner, watching her husband talk with the woman that he slept with that. She's okay with. She's so evolved it just. It smacked of of of sanctimonious pasta. Gel Rocket I wonder how. Of. Joy! Hbo I WANNA HBO to pick it up just so they can drop it. It's an offensive. Depiction of Tom I'd like to forget. What would? Be I think this would be a far lesser movie and people would not have such a for some reason just. Delightful memory of it if it wasn't for the soundtrack like without the songs, this movie is fucking really painful slog. That one great scene, who, after John Hurt William hurt? After William urged snorts coke, and then he's up all night, and then he ends up on a little jog in the morning. It's all foggy overcast and Where are they? Connecticut May and I can remember there. Michigan, because went to college. But I I liked that backdrop and. Tom Barringer because I I I know Tom Barringer mostly from Major League amplitude. So this was definitely a change of pace. Indeed he he played in La Actor, who was kind of insecure with what he's doing with his life, because it's not much, and he was by far the most successful one of the bunch think needs the only one that was like hat in hand. I have never seen a movie with so much talking and so much dialogue. That doesn't have a single memorable line like what is the? What is the most memorable line from this movie? The fucking Wall-to-wall Dialogue Yeah. then. Let's let's wrap this fucker up. as far as big show on just talk about how Kevin Costner scenes were shot. He was Alex. he's the one that killed himself, but they didn't. They ended up not including them in the movie. Yeah, that's. The Anna all right moving on what else you got Brian? You've got to movies right so I guess I will go next. My last movie is a movie. From last week we were released last week. Hey me too I wonder if we'll lineup there. I got a movie that I am over the moon for I really really liked this boy, and I, been meaning to watch it for a while. And it's. This list as you know going from From last year I do it every year and I try and catch up with everything on the list that I didn't see last year that I wanted to see and waves has been on the top of my list. Waves. has been on the top of my list because I'd heard good things. And I saw the director that He brought his Krisha as well as it comes at night, and he's got a very particular style and I really wanted to see his new one waves, but it came and went from the theaters in twenty four release trae Edward Scholtz directed it breaking the waves. Waves branch just waves, waves, bright and It was gone, and then it showed up on TV od, but it was like seven ninety nine. It was it was something kind of obnoxiously priced, and I wasn't sure because I liked Krisha lot and it's a very small movie about a woman spiraling out of control at Thanksgiving. Dinner and It's it's it's got pacing. Not Unlike uncut gems I mean this. This directors got something for sure, and then I saw it. It comes at night, and the direction was great at the story. Just left me kind of like wet blanket. I didn't care about what was happening with the story. So you've got this other one and I was hearing from a few listeners. When was anyways long story short? It's released a right now. It's on Amazon for ninety nine cents so absolute I would would've bought it for two ninety, three ninety I just didn't want to do. The seven ninety nine insanity was. Waves is a movie about a young man who was a wrestler who lives in Florida and he's got a little sister, and he's got a domineering dad and step mom Linda. A professional wrestler High School A. Competition wrestling, high school, competitive wrestling, and it's. A tough time for, and he's got some shoulder issues, and his dad is like I. Don't care although his dad's like I my on. Long Story Short one thing leads to another his girlfriend. He finds out his pregnant and then he's like well. I'll take the abortion clinic and. That's where maybe the he gets called the N. Word while he's going in the parking lot by an antiabortion person, which just that kind of felt like it was put in there. Just I don't know. But Then one thing is talk about spiralling definitely dried. Schultz definitely takes a page out of what he did with Krisha as far as spiraling one thing leads to the next leads to the next and tragedy occurs halfway through this movie and I'm thinking okay. What now because there's movies two hours and fifteen minutes long and Mike as it going to become a prison movie now what happens now and what happens is his sister who's kind of an afterthought. She's there in the backdrop. When he's like throwing up, we'll get from drinking too much in you know he's he's. He's doing drugs and and drinking a lot and taking. He's taking a lot of pain medication to deal with the pain. He's a good kid. He's trying hard. The pressure just got to him and I related to this kid, a lot and a lot of different levels from. A very similar, a shoulder injury where they said I'd have major reconstructive surgery and I had to quit football right there, right then for the season and I'd pressures were were were mounting on him and. I got it, and I could have gone to a very interesting place after the climax at about the halfway point instead it moves over to his little sister, and it becomes her story and we see how. With everything that happened in the first half, but no, she's not. It's not it's. It's a continuation. It's not a parallel, so it's not like we're going back in the movie and seeing what she's doing. Where does seeing her in the aftermath? And then Lucas hedges comes into the picture who we see briefly in the first half and he becomes it becomes a two hander in the second half of this movie, and all that is while in good and I can't imagine that I you know got a whole. Bunch of people fired up about waves with that description. It's the style in which this movie was shot, and the performances are fantastic. Taylor, Russell and Calvin Harris in junior are the are the brother sister and they're not high household names by any means, but they're both fantastic in this movie, but it's the style in which this thing is shot, and it opens up with like. Yeah, we're going to be one of those movies because it's a driving seeing. They're going across the bridge. You know this quite beautiful and in Florida and they got the three sixty going. Going on like right over the center console of the car, and he's driving with his girlfriend and his foots out the window, and listen to music, and the the cameras, just spinning full three sixty, so we see everything, and you're afraid of your bracing yourself car, accident or something, but no, he's just showing off what he can do with a camera, and there's definitely echoes of Gaspar. No here I don't think that these movies his movies look the same without Gaspar. No influencing hard the score is fantastic. It's. Takes you somewhere else by Trent? Reznor and atticus from age nails. And right. Tell me. Yeah so I. It's like Chris. Show with a spiral, but it's much. This is much bigger budget of Krisha. So if you're one of the few that I've actually seen, Chretien appreciates. Make sure you track down. waves. I absolutely loved this movie. It's Fan. And it sticking with me. It's been four or five days and I keep thinking about it and the characters and the way it was shot, and just his his his approach is so much different than what you'd see I the way that he sets up a scene and shoot. The scene is just so refreshing, and it's. It's definitely gaspar. No ask, but it's not obsessed with you know. Sexuality and Being offensive not deprave. Exactly yeah. Yeah Waves, check it out Check it out, man who hours. Waves waves one hundred hours, fuck. It's long, but it's essentially two movies in one point. Yeah. Nice dime nine said Renzo lambs on. Click through Amazon Banner Atop Anderson and Brian, but that's Let's say almost free right they're. Pretty Close I. Think I only have like three or four movies from twenty nineteen before I'm I'm a happy boy. So you have to cross couple of your list. I still yeah I I was very. I'm very happy to have removed way waves, because it's been on the very top every time I look at my notes on like. When when will waves happen and you'll? Triple frontier was on there and I watched the first thirty like not for me. It's all my cue. I keep trying to get the guts to watch like. disappointed. JC GENDER BUDDY I want to be disappointed. SHOULD I go? To break up the monotony Russa with talking about my movie. We might lineup here. Who I I saw a movie that was an also ran an honorable mention I should say this Sunday. It's list. Movie that just Miss Make my top five, but still garnered enough interest for be like I wanna see that and Lo, and behold it popped up on espn of all places. say thirty for thirty documentary be water. You see CB water. Frank Was a movie that just came out last week. Be Water can all week. It just got released last week. Yeah, who debuted on ESPN like Sunday. All Right, do you? Do you remember be water from your research for the Sunday's episode I don't have any recollection. No be water is a documentary directed by bow I'm GonNa mess up his last name, Leeann, and how do you spell this? What does this be like go? Be Water be water. Like aspire to be water. Bow is the director his last name. Is N.. G. U.. Say? million. Anyway Dow as the director. This is a documentary about the life of Bruce Lee a of figure, obviously who I know a lot about the most I probably about Bruce Lee is what was depicted once upon a time in Hollywood last year. Which of course was a bit of a? Hyper fictionalized person you say. This debuted on ESPN last week I. Think is still running as thirty for thirty documentary, but if you wanted to rent this actually engineering, can you look up and see if this can be streamed? Assume it's exclusive to like ESPN plus or something because a good brand. It was really good It was two hours long with commercials. Obviously, because aired it, you know live on their ESPN so it's probably about an hour forty forty five. It's very good. It's made for people like me who don't know a lot about Bruce Lee and just known as like this figure this I, this icon, and not as an actual person or what he did or as an artist. It really does portray him as This sort of very zen like artist. I didn't realize a lot of things about him run. WHO's an acting Prodigy Anderson? He was like he's been performing in Mandarin movies. He was a baby. I also didn't know he was born in San Francisco in Chinatown I. I assumed he was wrong or from China. But. No, he's the US. Born citizen and he learned martial arts remember. Logan assign assigned me I. Don't know if he signed you. it man, which is. Also known as man in certain parts of the man. Yeah, yeah, remember that Mike Tyson was Mike. Tyson was in one of those it. Man Three young man was I've seen zero events true ish story of this this legendary figure in China, but the man was an actual. Martial Arts teacher and he taught Bruce Lee and that's where he started learning from at age thirteen. And, then of course it touches on a lot of cultural stuff. How brutally came up in an era? Where Asian depictions were? Let's just say very very crude. They of course talk about breakfast at Tiffany's, they show. I didn't realize how many actors of the day like prominent actors did like yellow face quite frequent freely like they just hired big stars to play. Asian Americans or Asians Katherine. Hepburn did as John Wayne played. GINGAS Kahn Bob hope the show all these clips. But as it pertains to Bruce Lee is very eye opening on glass I'm inspired to see a couple of Bruce Lee films. Now I'M GONNA. Try in, knock couple off the list, but I'm very glad that I saw it if you want to be educated about Bruce Lee and also about. History of Asian American life over the last or not the last, but over the span of his lifetime which I guess nineteen forty till about nineteen. Seventy, two or seventy three. I think he died in the early seventies gets. They didn't teach that. There's a lot information. I'm not good with dates. Actually, they didn't proudly. It's probably too recent to have covered his depiction in once upon a time right? Yeah, they didn't touch that. ADDS a sham. Here's a some some bad news Brian Be. Water is not showing up. Just watch it all I guess that it's considered TV so it's not. which is not fair because it's a it. Screened at. Sundance, that's a, it's. Hour and forty five minute sundance documentary that I guess ESPN acquired. To their thirty thirty label on aired on their channel, which is their prerogative obviously, but don't think of it as like a disposable TV, documentary or expose. It's not that it's a very well done mattering. You saying that this was on my also ends for Sundance. No, no! This is on. I was just wondering became on your research I. DO Exhaustive Research Oh. Yeah. I'm sure that I read about it, but it didn't even stick, but yeah I. Read About Every single movie that that Sundance picks up and as well as every single movie that gets released theatrically which is. Kind of tough to do these days. Brian kind of tough. If you have a you have cable, or if you have access I assume they're running this quite frequently. Sell set your dvr. It's it's worth that especially. If you're a film fan and you want to know more about an era that I personally didn't know a lot about. Well. I mean that doesn't really. The whole. Bit The I. Don't know much about movies from nineteen hundred today, but I'm hoping to catch up. After. Nineteen hundred today Hey I got a movie that. Literally got released last week and it might have even shown a couple theaters for all I. Know Like in Georgia wherever they might have feeders open because I know there's a few out there. This is a movie simple title. It's called Becky Becky. Becky Hey becky. Hey, Becky, how will the Oh? You're fourteen years old irate. What are you doing here? I'm just GONNA explain Becky like this beck is a fourteen year old girl, and she's got a dad and Joel McHale. She does not like her dad. She's pissed at her dad. She loves her dad, but she's very mad at her dad. Because Dad has moved on is dead from cancer and she's very very mad at her. Her Dad for moving on and find another woman to fall in love with in Becky's not moving on Becky's very very upset, but Becky's very happy that Dad, Joel. McHale didn't sell the House Delay House he thought she thought that her dad Joel. McHale is going to sell this Lake House and he's. She's very very pleased to realize that he did not, and he surprises her with a trip up there and he goes look. Here's the good news. I didn't sell delay. Kaos actually tried to tell her on the way up there, but she's being angsty. Fourteen year old teenager, and keeps her headphones on, and she eats gummy worms, and a very very vicious manner letting you know that she's got the teenage strike, and then soon after her jubilee. Is came up I that I think this was purchased or rented by one of our listeners this week. Because a movie named Becky and up on the on the Amazon less get, everyone makes and. That I'll put it on the list. So Her. Her jubilation that Lake House not being sold from underneath her it soon is is taken from under her feet, and she and her. She's Crestfallen as she turns to see the car. That's pulling up the driveway and it is not only. Joel McHale Her dad's new girlfriend. I, guess fiance, but also Joel McHale. Her news to her would be her soon to be step. MOM's little son, who's like a four year old or five year old, and she is not pleased. She thought it was going to be. Weekend with dad and the dogs maybe reconnect after you know because they've been through with mom dine, but no, there's this horrible. WH or wicked woman is going to be there even though she's not waking, she's actually quite quite a decent good human being, but becky doesn't care 'cause he's pissed. Beck has got the brain so a lot along in the beginning of the movie. To that stage with. I don't envy you at all along the opening. Dead Deaden. Brian. I do appreciate the dark humor. The opening sequence the opening. What's getting this going? The first few minutes of Becky shows go ahead. Make your joke now. It's funny because visual. Christie's just walked into the kitchen moments after Beta very tasteless joke because she would not have light. I bet you know I i. Saw Christie yesterday. We talked for a while and I don't think she's in a good state to be here. In those kinds of jokes, so please refrain when Christie's within earshot now so. I'll tell you later. Honey or rebounded blame it on me. Say That I said all right, so we got these cross cuts right where we're going from becky and she's like getting out of bed. And then we see prisoners gaining out of their bed, and then we see becky and school, and there's like I high school fight going on, and then we see like a prison yard fight, and then Becky's in a car with her dad and overhead shot at the car, going up the mountain, and then we see the the overhead shot of the the van going up up a mountain or the prison truck. Here's what's interesting. The main prisoner in that truck is a very very bad ass man, Nazi skinhead you can tell because he's got. The swastika tattooed on on the back of his head there Bryan And he's got a big thick beard, bald head, and what makes them probably most interesting? He is. He is Kevin James which. Is a turn for Kevin James so that's how I first heard about this movie Couple of months ago, probably was when the trailer I dropped in over over there. On one of my read, it alerts Kevin James. trailers out for this new dramatic thriller movies so Lewd Wilson I. Don't think you would know Lulu Wilson. She plays back up and I recognized credits. She doesn't Admiral Job. She's in a haunting of hill houses. Probably how I know best. and. Sh she plays a very very angry. Wicked, little girl who takes matters into our own hands, and they're calling this I. They're calling this home alone, but like a realistic home alone which it is because Kevin James and his henchmen. There's four of them I believe in total descend upon the house and take Joel McHale and new girlfriend and a little kid. A hostage and Becky is out in the woods and she's. On a walkie talkie, and they know that Becky is out in the woods and that she has the key that they need. They came to this house to find to get a key that presumably leads to their freedom or leads to something else so David I should say they escaped from that that van there on with vicious murders. There's a lot of. Horror elements to this as far as Slaughter Porn and There's a particular I ball scene which would think upset? Quite a few people I found it to be kind of comical but a lot of stabbing in and maiming and and blood, spurting and sound effects. and. Yeah I don't think this is a movie for you. Brian but. Let me, see mine. Movies from nineteen hundred today. I always keep that my. My biggest problem with this is a bit of a leap to buy her as a stone, cold killer, but nice to see a teenage girl not buried in her phone because I don't. She just I'm so used to seeing teenage girls, whether it's in real life or in movies, just taking all about their updates in their cell fees and Becky's not has no time for any of that, so I wanted a love Becky I appreciate it Becky I, like seeing Kevin James play the a against his role against type That was fun. recommend becky to everybody into those. You didn't let the same role in grownups. He is very similar to what he did and zookeeper. He's a racist zookeeper I. Don't know if you ever saw. Paul blurred racist. So becky I I can't recommend it to everybody, but a I think those who will appreciate it. We'll really like it and. Enjoy a little It's worth seeing just just for to see Kevin James Take that turn if nothing else. All right. Coming up now, that's my line. Hey, that's Marlin. We're going to countdown some technical snafus. Hopefully, be a record it all next. Often worse. Too. Listen, to. E.. S. All right bye-bye cough what I gotta ask You RV recording this. Yes, we're recording this. I don't do this again. I had a laugh today over one of the more memorable fashions, in which the movie itself is kind of come and gone and may we may never think of it again, but I was thinking about. The beekeeping the beekeeping neighbors. Honey land hunting land, the beekeeping neighbors GILLIBRAND. I'm so glad you brought this up. Because I've been. It's been I. Literally have a spreadsheet that says to do. It's my to do list, and there's a number of things on their imagine. One of them is to get our our. UH, Youtube page. populated with some stuff and I I just WANNA. Do like single reviews of movies and I'm going. Going to start with honey land, because I've I've heard from a number of listeners who really do enjoy that that that review it brings them a smile as well brought me a smile today when I was looking Amazon. Click throughs or for the week and sell them got a little giant Super Beehive body with the frames for beekeeping I assume it's a giant mechanical bi, which is pretty He had fucking anything on man. I mean is right there on the title. Y You'd have to assume. pancakes and I assume that they would bring. Okay, go ahead otherwise. We're just on the matter. says. That's the wrong song come on buddy. I timed this well. The banners up. Includes I'm GonNa go to s vs Sub Woofer? Twelve inch driver one hundred watts. Tablets tablets were big this week. I Google Pixel slate tablet, a fire, seven tablet Amel Amel Apple ipad space gray. An XP pen are twelve pro drawing tra- tablet, which I guess is one of those ones that you take notes on with a handwriting. ring spotlight camera security camera all new ring Video Doorbell A. Breeze indoor ceiling, Fan couple of gift cards. A VISA GIFT cards one for one hundred bucks. Tour Bucks tribe signs l-shaped disc. 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SNAFU stands for situation normal all fucked up. true I get it i. get it because things are always fucked up i. can I tell you something Brian? Tell me tell me if they're recording. This week. Was a lot of fun. Researching for this show can be It's always loved the excuse to be researching about movies. But some weeks are a little tougher than others and some weeks it's not it's not nearly as much fun as others and I gotTa tell you watching technical snafus and technical ups. That occur in movies and it wasn't easy to research, either because there's no real comprehensive list out there and every time you try and type anything to Google. They think they. To know about airplanes showing up gladiator overhead. Looking for Gu guth section of of IMDB, yeah, so I had to do a lot of this off. You know thinking off the top of my head and starting early, and and thinking often and I gotta tell you. The research was a lot of fun. The clips are a lot of fun. Actually have two clips. For my for my number, one and number two which I'm excited a play, Brian because they're both very very comical. In their own way, I can't wait to. yeah I might send them to you. I almost send them to you earlier, but I didn't want to spoil the surprise, but I gotta say that last week as painful as that was for. Both you and I to have such such a huge technical Snafu. I think that a lot of a lot of positives are have already come out of it, so I I'm really glad that will lead to this episode because this was fun. I feel very strongly about my number one. Therefore, I'm going to ask you to go first bright Yeah, as it happens when we do. That inspired you know by by recent events or something. We brought up on the show. Sometimes, it doesn't always. Fall into place where we hope it to. But this one. This was a list I agree number five for me I'm very excited about this. Because the last one I thought of like Oh yeah, Great Technical Snafu so as with most technical mishaps Anderson Mine, most of by four to five of my list signal the end of Acta one usually the inside against it right something goes wrong, and now we have a movie. Something goes wrong now. We have a plot. Against the rest. Of the ones I looked up, but the rest of the ones I guess. Comedy. The exciting climax. Actions happening at the end of the movie. It'll be interesting to see how yours Kinda shakedown, but that's on my list shapes up. Mine does not mind. There's one that could be argued that that. Is the entire movie, but all the other four are just moments in the movie that I find a light phone. Number five for me this kicks off the normal plot of total recall nine, hundred, nine hundred total recall by Paul Verhoeven. Remember Their Quaid has submitted himself to to recall to live out a fantasy adventure, and as he's in the chair, something goes wrong. He starts to freak out. He's screaming. He's like. Covers Blown Abo-. Guys are coming to kill me right now. And they tranquilized him and falls unconscious. And then the recall directors like Oh, he's just living out the secret agent part. The the scientists is like no I haven't fucking injected him yet and realized that his memories been previously raised and. They dumped them. They send him in a cab back home and they're refund is money and Blah Blah is interesting technical snafu because? I told her I've seen a few times I love that movie and I love the way that it presents well. He could one hundred percent be lying or not lying. Be Delusional he could be living out a fantasy. He could be completely He could just give over to the fantasy and ignore reality. It has a lot of mind bending stuff in there, but the movie plots had kicks off with that technical mishap at recall. Throughout the movie like we don't know what we're watching it could. You're presented with a few different realities one being like. Oh, no, he's he's. The one, the movie expects you to follow the plot. The expects you to follow is that he was implanted with these with this false, or there was a race like you remember Quaid, the original Quaid was like a friend of Co Hagans, or whoever he's afraid of the bad guys, and they intentionally wiped his mind so that he would lead them to clock to or whoever. Destroy, the rebels Blah Blah, but then he decides to live out that life. You're presented with a couple of different rail. I've seen this. Total recalls when I. I've seen it a couple of times, and it's just. It's neither here, nor there from. It's a very. Brian movie is a great example of like a smart. Shoot 'em up actually I. It's it's. It's it's not much different. To then robocop exist kind of hand in hand, other very similar thing. They're smart movies, but there are exceptionally over the top violent. And they take place in the future that you know we. We may never never see alternate sort of veto alternate sort of future. Anyway, just hope you just. number five for me. Brian is I try to leave his off my list, but I watched the scene, and this is a great scene, and otherwise less than movies for as I'm concerned, and that is I, man very reason just a couple of years ago, twenty eight, the Ryan. Gosling moving. Yes Ryan Gosling and Dame inches, els movie about new Armstrong and his his. Personal Life. His wife, who just concerned constantly and apparently, the story of a hand held camera man that you never see because that seemed to be a one of the lead characters in the movie for me, I was so distracted. Fuel but the opening scene really had my hopes up because it is phenomenal and it's where. Gosling playing the Armstrong is taking a jet A. A very advanced yet, but it's the jet nonetheless like in the nineteen sixties, and he's exiting our our our atmosphere the jet. He's going up into space presumably. For the first time that man has ever actually been up that I I. Don't know they don't get into the details, but you get the sense that he's in our uncharted territory, and it has done with such realism and when he's, he's talking to Mission Command and he's supposed to be coming back down and he's. He's engaging the thrusters, and they're not working, and they're saying you're bouncing off the atmosphere and you can see that his altitude is going up rather than down, and he's just about to float off into space, and this tin can nothing's working, and it's its terrifying, even though you know obviously. Obviously it's Neil Armstrong, so you know the real, they'd be a weird movie. If it opened up with Gosselin playing Neil Armstrong and he just floated off into space and was never seen again like that would be a very different movie than I think anyone would fund, so you know that he's not nothing a. he's not going to be harmed. He's coming back to Earth. Everything's GonNa be fine yet. You're still like on the edge of your seat. Because of SNAFUS, it's so well done, and then he comes back down to Earth, as does the rest of the movie, and it's all just fucking doll. I remember seeing a list exercise. Yeah I, don't I much and then they're asking us to care about this guy who's very unlikable and. With this fucking daughter and the crater and I guess it's kind of interesting. Because at Neil Neil, Armstrong he did spend considerable amount of time over at crater when he was up there on the moon, and no one really knows what he was doing so. Zell took took a stab in the dark, and gave us an answer, but that opening sequence and it it does have a Snafu that you're concerned about, but you know you could pull out of the movie and the movie still works. Deva's maybe they might have been the best scene in the movie. Turner I. Remember just finish. Passionate. An impassioned. Monologue on that absolutely being the best thing about the whole amongst the best scenes in the top three four I even through a metaphor that I just came up with on the fly that that once he come down to Earth to the rest of the movie also comes down to Earth and stays there, despite the fact that they actually go to the moon but I still everything's down back to Earth because it's just Dullsville. You! Are you? Are you filing your nails? Are you trying to think of a fake joking? Tell Christie you said what what's going on when I'm when I'm doing my impassioned I, realize I talk a lot. I do I. Get that I'm I'm I'm dying? O body. Write that one down to. You got to Zingers Christie when you're done. What's your number four? Here we go. Knock knock WHO's there. Number four it, this is the only one I left that you could possibly chalk up to human error, although at the end of the day when the when the reports filed, they're going to say there was a technical mishap so I'm GonNa. Go ahead and talk about a movie. That was a good movie. We both like and rarely comes up on the show. Unstoppable, twenty tens unstoppable directed Doni, Scott this is the movie were a train. A runaway train is having nuclear site or something. So do we. Plea right he he decides. He's like no I'm not going to connect the air hose between the locomotive and the rest of the terrain. Then, his partners like hey. The air brakes aren't going to work the. Later! We Park the trainer another pack and Turns the throttle to his highest setting. which turns out to be a mistake which enables the trains dynamic brakes? As it. Approaches a switch dewey sees Oh, it's not set to the right track and. Against his party's vice, he attempts to jump from the slum moving trained to line up properly, and of course he is very fat and very dumb, and he falls to the ground as he does. And the train. Coats off unmanned to. The titular unstoppable train. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa just right for the in your in your notes that I always keep track of Dewey's Dewey's failure. Do, we failed attempt sure. Good call brand. That movie is based on a on on a faux PAS or another FAUX PAS on. These Boehner. Not doing that. Doing do he's or all right? We'll get on good good call. do we do we hold on? Let me hit. His failed the tamped. Do we falls Phil, do we? Do we falls. Because he does fall to the ground when he was trying to tell I didn't think. Our number four for me Discuss! This is great once again. A very good seen a great scene. I Dare I. Say Great Scene In an otherwise forgettable movie. This is nineteen ninety-seven. Brian the Jackal to remake of day of the. What is it the day of the Jackal, thank you Brian I have not seen the the original the remake which I did see nineteen ninety-seven starring one What's his name? Bruce Willis did not have me going. Faulk I gotta go see Directional. Now. That was awesome. Really Care about the whole movie as a whole is about Asia double agent sociopath. There's weapons involved and it was. Not, a movie made for me made made for certain people, not me. However in the middle of movie there is a scene that involves a character name Lamont who was hired to build a remote control mount for a big. Ask Gun that Bruce Willis has at fires depleted to depleted uranium ammo. And problem is when they're testing it. Do we do Lamont and the Jackal or out there in the Field Lamont Author and the field and I should say Lamont is played by then fairly unknown Jack Black. And Jack Black is like a stone, dude, and you just like smoking grits, and he's like I should have brought beer. That kind is awesome managed to talking to the jackals, just having none of it, because he's very very serious about the mission and do he's a very distracting, and you can tell does not care for Dui at all and then sorry. A beetlejuice flew directly in my ear. To ear that I'm listening to you, not many can. Compared to other parts of the country. We're pretty lucky. Good point but I am I'm now holding the beetle a little beetle on my thumb and he's going to. Watch do. So. problem is when they're testing this gun. They have a pump. Do you remember seeing? Have you seen this movie? I have nothing. It didn't didn't strike me as one I should see. I have links to all these scenes as well in my weekly list that do for Brian and myself for the for that we make available on the old patron, their lives there forever, so even if you just dip into the Patriot for for you know like a month or something to see what we got, you can access all of these things and. You would be able to watch this scene pretty quick with just a click of a button because I've got a hyperlinked there of old Jack Black on dude. No, he's off by three millimeters. They yeah, you know that's that's par. I kind of disgusted, a couple of things should be fine, though and the jackals not happy at all, because he misses the Pumpkin that he's shooting. That takes out a tree instead. That's how big there's a powerful this his weapon is in the tree, falls over and knocks over the Pumpkin and Lamont home doing. Lamont says Lamont says let's took out to target though and he's like here. I need you to do something. Essentially, he says you know I'm GonNa tested on you now? run and You know he's. He's got the gun trained. It's all running through a computer system that is very precise and And he's got a lock on its target, which is Jack Black Lamont and he's freaking out now. He's overweight crying. He realizes know things have turned for the worse, and then he gets way out there by this car that they have set up to their presumably going to take potshots at and the Jackal has. IMPOSED! Out His pack of cigarettes. And he's taking freaking out and you don't be scared. And stopped shaking standstill, and you hold that a cigarettes and then. I mean he proves to Lamont that it is off it doesn't it doesn't fire accurately? And he had to make some adjustments to it with the with the help of Lamont. Great cinnamon doing otherwise forgettable move. Great, seeing Brian, and you and I would be. Sharing a chuckle, if you to of seen this, but you have not. Radically enough, I'm chuckling a DUI falling to the ground and eating fucking faithful Iraq's. So I think we just got our answer. That's what Brian does. He watches his own clips or Whatever he said lasts while I'm talking. number three for me. The only one of my last mother Dick. They'll having A. Mother Dick One of my list that takes place in the exciting conclusion as opposed to the supposed to the inciting incident. What is what is mother Donna's mother deck? Was Switching it up at Tennessee motherfucker? I just tried mother, Dick and I kind of like. You Dick Work on workshop shopping. I dig it. It's going to be our listener art next week. Mother Dick now. I can't imagine that being good number three for me. a great movie gray conclusion, one of the one of the few. Like how many movies do we see Anderson? Whereas like a good movie? Good movie and it's like Oh. They try to have all this big action or big something at the end. Didn't need that. Yeah quite often. Actually it's almost obligatory right, and they throw it in a lot of time. It feels exactly that. Would you know it, just it? It feels like a movie is like okay. Of course you got all the explosions and the pyrotechnics here didn't really need it like it was working up until his a movie that accomplishes that very very well back to the future nineteen eighty-five Robert Zemeckis. This a technical mishaps when in nineteen, fifty five doc Brown's trying. To Send Mardi back because he's they need one point one gigawatts where the power and he's like the only thing that can that can do that as a bull bolt of lightning, but we didn't know where, or when a both lightning supposed to strike, so you're kind of screwed kid and Marzak. No, we do know exactly when it's going to strike and he shows them the you know the clock. Tower Tower frozen forever. At the time the lightning struck on the fateful evening of the edge of the sea dance, and so we all know what happens about Blah, doc, and Marty your arguing about the future, and don't tell the future, and all of a sudden a lightning, or think it was a storm or lightning or something. The tree trillium right if falls, disconnects the cable and docks like no I'm GonNa. Climb up to the top this clock tower and reconnect this cable and he does, and it's comical and it's exciting. He's an old man climbing this thing. And is Yankee on this cable, yanking trying to get just enough slack to get. Marta you go in the car. Did you gotta? Do I'm GONNA, reconnect and We all remember he pulls, and it disconnects on the ground and doc heroically. Liedes down the cable and reconnects it just as the lightning bolt surges of the line, the delorean. I always wondered even as a kid. I'm like. Why didn't I mean? They had her access elvis equipment. Why are they relying on Mardi? Getting the exact moment of the lightning strike? Could he had he had the antenna right? There was supposed to catch the lightning. Why didn't you just have like a very long cord? To? At least give him a little bit of slack. You know what I mean like. They had like a one and sixty chance assuming that clock was precisely accurate, it still has to happen to the exact second released. Maybe they had two seconds worth of lightning shooting. It was A. Moment Hidden. The antenna made contact, but the the cord. Right so they had like a one in sixty chance. They knew what was going to happen. They didn't know at second. Brian, works as actually a on in my house, and my my boy watched, he was confused throughout Manhattan but He watched a lot. It moves very quickly. If it's such a big movie in your head, and actually it's pretty small. It just kind of like all the scenes play out pretty quickly like there are to that scene. So quickly I. It's it's funny. That's that's what struck me when it was on in the background the other day, I love. Strikes are so good it's it's damn near perfect it really is. Damn and you know I was talking about it on the old after a couple couple of weeks ago, right after came on in my house and I was doing some math, and you know they go back to nineteen. fifty-five Ryan from nineteen eighty five all right. If they make today, they'd go back to nineteen ninety. How depressing! 'cause nineteen fifty-five seems like a different world right now. If they were to do thirty years, it would be back to our nine hundred ninety, which seems like just a few years ago, they'd go back. Go back and watch total recall. Number three for me. This is the only one on my list. That really is the big Snafu, and without it. The whole movie doesn't doesn't work. it is W.. O.. Pr Wants to play a game in wargames. Board I think about. Terminator Skynet stuff, but like are these snafus, or are they just the natural evolution of how these computer programs I mean you can make an argument. W. W. O. PR FIRST OF ALL STANDS FOR WAR Operations Plan Response and. One of the this is not a Snafu. This is just dumb. If you remember the way that they hacked into the system is she guessed what the Password was and turns out they did. Minimal digging and they. They learn that Wi- programmer of a of a game from way back when lost his son, and his son's name was Joshua Lo and behold. That's the name of this. This mega weapon that can destroy the the Earth a thousand times over Just add access it. You just type in capital, J., O. S. H. U. A. and was before. Passwords became the bane of our existence. Which you know every day? We have to deal with passwords pretty much, but the the fact that Joshua was good enough back Dan for the movies. Laughable. It's very funny, but All Aw Joshua, who did W OPR, has some real challenges in distinguishing the difference between reality and simulation, and that is the glitch that was somehow overlooked in the programming of W O pr, and that was the crux of the entire movie, and I linked to what is titled on Youtube that Scene For more games, which is the final four? Minutes of the movie essentially, but yeah, it's it's really trying to communicate trying to get. This is essentially to to learn on the fly, and they I they learned had a real hard time distinguishing between simulation and reality, and that is a Snafu I would count spot absolutely if my unstoppable counts that absolutely counts. I like I like I. Like you having unstoppable, just very funny? and. Good movie that needs to be should be talked about more often because it's got be forgotten. Little Gem that Tony has gotten I've said a number of times. Everytime movie comes up. I always point out the fact that the editing was so tight on that movie and the ad get tighter and tighter and quicker and quicker as the movie progresses. As the speed of the train speeds up which? Worked perfect. Those are real, pleasant, real, pleasant surprise sample coming up neck. Wait, wait let me let me go back. Let me go back and let you know that Wargames Brian it's on stars. You can watch that right now on stars if you like the Jackal if you'd like to check it out or just check out that one. If you got stars, you're lock. And then I man is currently streaming on cinemax. If you've got cinemax all right, this is all you didn't look up. Because my phone's about the Diet I wanNA make sure that last entire episode, so look up my total recall and don't tell me what to do. A future, coming up next St-, we will conclude our list of technical snafus. Brian every single day I hear that the sports are getting closer and closer. Oh, that makes me very excited tantalizingly close. Yes and our boys at bed online. have is covered for all the gambling needs. For when the sports come back, but even before that I was gonna say they got covered. All sorts of futures. WHO'S GONNA win? This is a win that. Those lines move indeed they do, but you might think to yourself well. There's sports right now. There's no betting. Oh, no, no, you're wrong. First of all NASCAR's back about ask Carl you want. You can on a stock price of the Anderson which is weird. Because the stock, the stock market is kind of like a gambling as unto itself double-dip. On the weather you can bet on the Nathan's hot dog eating contest. What's more American that? Nothing nothing is the answer by the way you can make a bunch of. Eating, we can make a bunch of futures bets on. The Oscars who's going to be nominated who's going to win. It's It would take a lot of research and a lot of. Expert guessing, but you know what if you love movies and you love gambling? Bet Online is your source. Guys don't wait visit bet. Online at a g Dover got the Promo Code podcast One O. N. E. podcast one for son, a bonus at about online your online sportsbook. A. List of technical snafus got a couple of good ones. ENERSEN LOVES IS NUMBER ONE SO I'll start with number two for me. Anderson kicks off the the the events of the fly nice six, the fly David Cronenberg's the fly. Of course we all know how it goes. A housefly advertently gets into the pod with Seth Brundle and teleport to the pod. Humour emerges seemingly normal. I'm. Pretty, well. Not so well turns out because as he later learns. Here's becoming a fly slowly, but that is a technical mishap this. Is, becoming a fly. Brenda runflat. Lie, Brundle fly just my list Brian How do you not have? Somebody has to have it on there. Because it's, it's a mass of Fox up and something. They didn't think about it and I even being a young guy. Not The brightest bulb was like what about the germs are in there? What about the virus is a little microbes? Why aren't you going? Like turn all those things, too, but I guess it could be. I guess it could be explained that Ada doesn't recognize you know something so small. As germ or bacteria. Anyways, I'm on, I am DB looking You know four, thousand, two, hundred and forty three people gave back to the future one-star I didn't know that. There's just bad people. I didn't know that, but I wanted to sound like I did. That I mean who would who would take the time. To give that one's like and what? What's the? Problem with fashion the, future! Maybe, their their religious folk that really upset at the the the GOP in sexual stuff, our or even like the idea, that like hits too close to holy. God control time and space. Are Or that or that. Number number two. Yes, Fox. Yes, can I if I send you a link right now? You'd be able to tax a thought of that ten minutes ago, but you. Know. I shouldn't have what email to me, please. All right hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hold on Brian, right now is all like a upset. Because His little phone is unplugged I don't know why you're in the kitchen for fuck. Sake. Just plug in your headphones on. because. I have a very. Very advanced iphone and there's only one port. Headphones. Did you really just very advanced. Because there's one standard it has been for like four fucking years grind. because you had. Okay, all right, but you should be the kind that you can lay down on something and the charges laid down on your fucking mom. I sent you the clip, so let me know when you're ready and we can watch together because it is fucking glorious. Clin. Just game through I'm talking this is this is another small little scene in a movie that could be pulled and the movie still works. Just fine at the stakes are very low at involves a woman, not getting French fries in the future. I'm talking about DRC. Let's just play the clip because it's fantastic. It's a full a quiet down music I. AM having some some glitches in my own over here. Bribery all right here we got. Here's the scene where a nameless woman. We had no idea. She is because she's not a real character in the movie. She just happened to be there and she's trying to get some French fries from the The Carl's junior kiosk in you know. Big Big respect to Carl's junior for seeing the humor in this and allowing their name and logo to be used for the movie fantastic. How many? How many? Chances are they approach before they got Carl's junior. I think Carl's might have been the first because it really goes with everything that Karl especially back then was doing. Don't bother me I'm eating. High Chick hot chicks. I think maybe they went straight to to Carl's, but who knows the? They could have started somewhere else same with a rutgers. Good good good for you for playing along. Are here we go? It's a full. fifty-seven seconds. Frauds. Jimmy no fries I got an empty box. Would you like it and other? Frauds said I didn't get any. Your account has been charged. Your balance is zero. Please come back when you're GonNa Ford to me. Like sorry your. Own. Star. This should help you. Calm down. Please come back when you can afford to make a purchase. Your kids are starving. Carl's junior believes no child should go hungry. You are unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's junior Carl's junior buck. You I'm eating. At all right, so let's takes work kind of hi there towards the end I forgot that. Extra show the curls. Carl's junior custody. God knows what that. Train you to flip burgers and. I don't even do that because it's all automated machines flipping burgers but. I guess the stakes were big for her at the end, but you know I another flaw with this. If you're familiar with the same, we just watched and you just heard is I. Know Me and my friends would constantly be trying to get those kiosks to calm us down with whatever. Sweet little like nitrous gas that they shot into turf as to make her kind of Lake High. We would constantly be trying to get high from the Carl's junior kiosks. Are. My number one is fairly obvious, but. It is the inciting incident in a very good movie. Apollo thirteen thousand ninety six apollo thirteen swagger turns on the Liquid Oxygen Tank. He stirs the tanks, just heard the decks and sub Maven's explodes sending the astronauts hurtling into space, Apollo Thirteen. That was of course. Kevin Bacon who supported her, stirred the tanks and it turns out. That was a mistake I mean he was supposed to do it, but it turned out to be a mistake as set off the events of movie Apollo Thirteen number, one dealer clipper number wife. You should send me now. I You and your phone should've sent it to your. Own and really awful Paula Thirteen Ron Howard nineteen, ninety-six, my number, one technical Snafu, who a mishap something gone wrong. And now we have now we hold on. Oh Man. I really want you to watch this however. What here hold on hold on. Give me five seconds because I. Do have it. where it's child that? I. This just makes me go slower Brian. You know about my personality. I have flaws and when you're asking me to do something and own I just go much slower. Like the girl on like the Italian girl on below deck, this season seems cool. Well Hannah, because of that. I started thirty minutes later this morning. I you. You should have it in your inbox. Momentarily Oh! I'm GONNA cut so the my number one. Sorry for the a bit of a jumble fuck here, but it's Ed to Oh. intro seeing the ED to nine intro seen in Robocop from nineteen eighty seven Seeing this in the theater scared the fuck Outta me, it's still kind of makes me uncomfortable and nervous, because it's so easy to put yourself into this suits shoes, and the the the other horror that would be if you had to endure this and the Stop Motion Animation I. I maintain is one of the most scary visuals ever committed to movies or TV stop motion, which is kind of a lost art. It is a lost art form. I haven't seen it since no since I dare and brought it back for those rock, monsters and Noah, but it just gives that creep factor elevated so goddamn creepy, so here we go, this is. Owns? Come on Click, Click Click clack. Click clack already yeah Brian. I'm ready to go ready. Let me see if I get another error message here we go. The enforcement droid series two nine. Is a self sufficient law enforcement robot. To Oh nine is currently program for urban pacification, but that is only the beginning. After successful of duty in Detroit, we can expect to Oh nine to become the hot military product for the next decade. Back McNamara arrest subject getting. Yes, sir. His hand please Yes sir. Kenny is going to help us stimulate a typical arrest in disarming procedure. Use your gun in a threatening mapping. Appointed boss. Pointed at Ed to a nine which it looks like a giant microphone with guns. Holds it up to a to a nine here? Put Down your weapon. I think you'd better do what he says Bitch Kim. turned. into. Little more than physical force I'd say. A little a little a little beyond physical force. Nineteen eighty seven's robocop directed by the aforementioned Paul Verhoeven. This robocop is is. I I think it's my favorite movie that he that he's ever made. That's not called starship troopers. It has to I just I love I. I start. A little more, but this until we're recall these these are three great movies. I here's another fun little. Fact is robocop. All one word with the capital see there in the Middle Right, so is Robo capital, c. up and then wargames. All one word with the W.. A capital are I mean capital G. for the for the war, so it's W. A. R. Capital G. Weird, weird that that is probably very few movies with that kind of spelling and capitalisation in odd places and two of them on my list this week alone and I should tell you. Brian analysts nurse You can see idiosyncrasy on cinemax right now, and this is going to blow your mind. You can see robocop the original nineteen eighty-seven on you guessed. It stars killing it just crushing crushing. Next week top by movies with a capital letter in the middle. I think there's only two or three. I didn't even realize but cinematics getting a lot of plugs this week and I'm not trying to do that. It just keeps coming to mind I I have that that's how I suppose cinematics, the capital, a right there in the middle, and maybe subconsciously did that because the old robocop I don't know but Ed Tunein, terrifying, indeed locking those squibb's or intense man. That guy was torn apart. Don't act like you're in the movie Biz with your squid's boys. Squibb's is not advanced. Number five for the Listener Brian now listener list number five is Monty Python, and the holy grail the credit scene. It's fantastic very fun. Little seen absolutely deserve it. Dr Strangelove or are style learned to stop worrying love. The the bomb won't release their. That was all my altruistic. axe. Number of weeks ago if you recall slim pickens riding the the bomb there. Jurassic. Park has their number three losing power. That's nine point, two percent of the overall vote or just under twenty percent of the top five office space. This is a great great bacon, then once again. By Mike Judge. WHO DID IT CRECY? He he gets the the the snafu, the Technical Snafu, and this involves a PC loader letter with eleven point three percent of the overall vote just under twenty, just over twenty four percent of the the top five and then Dark Knight. The hospital bomb doesn't detonate. Little snappy, who it is a real snafu and I think that's where the listeners were going with that one, because I actually did happen in the movie It wasn't supposed to happen that way, but he's ledger being the pro, and just being completely dialed in like he was, he just went with it and continued because it was broadly by far and away the largest pyrotechnics they had. The entire movie couldn't do it again in initially. Initially didn't go off instead of him. Just being like our, let's go on. Is that a kite keys kept being the joker, thank God, and they got it so I'm sure that they had other angles they could cut to. I'm sure they had tons of coverage. But that's listeners number one twelve percent of the overall vote, and just over twenty five percent of the top five very nice also rans for me. ghostbusters where they accidentally released all the goes from the from the vaults, although that's more human error, Jurassic Park. Of course, one is Anchorman, I'm Ron Burgundy. Question Mark Superman three. The machine goes haywire at the end and bad things happen to that woman, wizard of Oz, when the the the pay, no attention to the May mind the curtain. Gravity, Mya technically. Yes you mentioned the joker. A bomb seen in dark knight, also a similar scenes. Ocean's eleven happened when the batteries did not work on the detonator, two thousand and one of course syringe Love Yeah. poor Dr Manhattan gets created when there's mishap at work and watchmen and lease eum also poor. Dave in gets locked in the Radiation Chamber. All, my other also rans have been mentioned as far as I can tell with the exception of the electrifying seen in short circuit, which leads the entire plot of the movie was. Was is on HOOPLA and it turns out. It's on my Hoopla because you never know with Hoopla when it says on just watch that it's on HOOPLA canopy. It's always still a shot in the dark, depending on on what city you're in but it is on the La Hoopla Los, Angeles or something I don't know how they break up the regions, but I watched the first hour of short-circuit with my three year old and. And that's one of the reasons why I called you. Brian because he was into it, and he wanted to finish it with Daddy, but he had lots of questions along the way, and he knew that he couldn't continue to watch it without me, so I was going to see if we can push, but we already have two episodes to do so I just wanted to take your temperature and see if you're like. Yeah, I'm the middle of something. But you're like I was told five fifteen, so I had to pause that Johnny five is live, but it holds up. There's some very very funny moments very very. I was laughing out loud when he was when he says. Are we cool? We cool. Despite the fact that they have a a white man plane very very Indian man I think everything else is Stevens right. Yes all right. Brian some news happening now and I I didn't realize that until. Until this week actually, but that is I know the outcome of the gambling before the episode begins because I have to do the research and do the math and I don't have any input I can't control it one way or the other, but I can tell who won before we even begin recording, so how that's changed things is. At least this week, I had three different movies to assign you. And I was going to wait to decide on how the episode went. And how many times you infuriated me and. I was going to assign accordingly. But you only piss me off once really with the with the two movies, which is just a your new normal. That's your new normal. It's hurtful. It's truthful. Dog Tooth is what we gambled on last week. What percentage of the listeners that you guys have seen dog shoes I? ridiculously said forty eight percent you said twenty three percent. The reality is thirty eight percent of our listeners. Have Seen. Hard to believe. I. I don't think so I mean we talk about that movie a lot and we have real film lovers that watched that movie plus iago's. That listen to this program and IAGO slant. The most is no longer a An obscure a foreign director I mean he's he's. He's got a household name now amongst people who know more than their average about movies and I would imagine a lot of people have gone back to to check in on his earlier. Don't do that with the Al. Guess what it's. I guess thirty eight and it is forty eight. Wait, it's you guessed. Sixty two. Yes, you guess eight and it's for I'm sorry. So I guess thirty eight. Forty eight and you guess twenty-three sorry. I got mixed up there. I guess forty eight percent just under half of our listeners have seen it, and it turns out only thirty eight percent of so I was by ten points you guests. Only twenty three percent, which was a pretty good guess, turns out thirty eight percent of seeing it so as you can see, they're fifteen points off of your guess as opposed to ten percent off of our ten points off of Mike I was I was the. Math in this episode, but you can just tell me you're gonNA. Tell me what was. I want so since you didn't infuriate me. I'm going to give you one then now this does. This this does require you to get a subscription to shudder. or at least a trial subscription, which I think that you could probably get if you have not already gotten shutter in the past, so. This movie! Yeah I'm sure you can rent it, but it's called. One cut the dead. I've been told by. A number of listeners to to watch this movie. I credit to my buddy, Bruce. who was the first one to say you're GonNa love this movie but a number of you have since said one cut the dead. His movie that you need to see, it's a it's a it's A. It's a foreign language Zombie Film. This now you do not say this. I have not seen one dead, but we're going to be watching it this week and talking about it next week. All Right? What do we gamble on this one fuck man? The for the first time in a long time, kind of a notable movie is coming out. The. King of Staten Island. Do you want to gamble on that Oh yeah. Oh yeah percentage, wise What do you mean do? Critics remember how to we're GONNA. Burn back to our roots with the rotten tomatoes interesting out perhaps not. Because I mean we can't say what percentage of seen. It hasn't come out yet. No, no, no, we're GONNA. Guess the critics score. Okay yeah all right. Let's do that. I got a number. We ready. Right on three one to seventy five. Seventeen nine and WHO's looking up? You're me Oh. I guess me because you have a crippled I. I I have A. I have a lot to all right. Seventy six. Year I feel like you cheat a lot as Long as she hits long as shit. Seventy, seven seventy seven is what I'm. Yeah, it's two hours seventeen minutes. That's a long movie. Brian Just says on Google earlier. Seventy seven percents all right cool. So, You're winning better. Hope, it goes up change. Thanks Brian I know. How do math thank you? I'm just learning all right. Yes sir. Let's hung here. Anderson, we recorded episode. Feel good about us. Thank you very much to Sean Williams. I haven't pushed I. Haven't pushed. Stop yet. Okay well. Be Sure you do that before you checked it. Shaw Sam also I don't know why you're saying Sean. Sam Sam. Get, the credits correct. Thank you Sam for the art this week. It's very very good as always Anderson and Brian. Dot, com where you go to check it out. Thank you also to the quotas and mystery kid. They're the featured artists. 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Episode #19 "The Happy Wanderer"

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Episode #19 "The Happy Wanderer"

"All right. WHAT'S UP BUDDY? How are you today? All right. We got a great show first of all Stephen I want to thank all our fans for the support. They've shown Photography Sopranos podcast. You guys a great. We love doing this show and very happy like what we're doing. Thank you for the love A lot of people have been asking us to create some talking Sopranos Merchandise. We did here is the official Talking Sopranos. Shirt. got the official Mug so. You guys asked for it. You got it. You could get your official talking Sopranos Merchandise Right here on the talking Sopranos website. You can get a t shirt, the one I'm wearing. or You could get like fish. It's easy. Go to our website Talking Sopranos Dot Com. You Click on the official talking Sopranos Merchandise Button. And you get whatever you want for yourself or a loved one. It's very easy. Stuff. Looks Great. Thanks again for your support. Keep listening. WHAT'S UP METEORITE Now you're not. Is something bothering you know What it'd be honest. I'm going to be honest I guess the honest. So I get this. Beautiful. Talking Sopranos. Shirt. In the mail and what does it say? Talking. Sopranos with Michael Imperial. Ideals are. Not Approve. This shirt Michael. What's the problem? Okay. I'm supposed to be your partner but everything we do in the last twenty years we've done together your name is I your name I and I'm like the second that all the time down on online and it's Alphabetical Steve. Both user alphabetical end before sl before us, you give me the Bull Shark because Dr not, Abbott and Costello Lewis and Martin crammed into Norton. lennon-mccartney it's all alphabetical. McCartney still, not happy about that. Believe this year to make you think he. Absolutely Grudge. I'm burying I'm burying a grudge because you want an end the award you are nominated for couple of Golden Globes euro five episodes. You've retirement this in my face for years. I know with this is about. I, I. Know, it's about the first day on the set you still you gotta hair appear ask because you wanted some big roll out the red carpet hero's welcome because it was your first day what I was told. By upstairs to keep my distance from you because there was Intel out of Vegas. There were reports, there was a disgruntled comic. There was some. Point shaving some bullshit listen you WANNA present some choirboy image but I don't buy that and I've never bought that and the fans don't really buy that. You can hold up dogs and kiss babies but that's not gonNA change things. Okay, not a problem with these thing Andy why don't we send them all back and make Steve Happy because obviously this is an issue. I. Don't really give a shit. I never asked for it. Alphabetical. I just assumed that's how they chose. How do you know exactly what you're doing? You play that little little fucking act that you play. Yeah. I know what you? Of the strange from I'm. Not. Pulling. The next batch I'd better get approval all withdrew. After want I don't know if they'll be a batch, listen go talking Sopranos, Dot Com go to the official talking Sopranos Merchandise Button and order some stuff get while it lasts. Nice shirts. After. This I'm good. See this jacket. Yes. This is the jacket I wear in today's episode the Happy Wanderer during the card game. This is Armani suit I have the pants to wow. Yeah and it still fits you. It's a big I. Don't know how but really. I don't know. Yeah. It's Nice I'm thinking maybe selling it raising money for maybe the jazz foundation all that'd be nice why and you wear it in what June. Sees exactly. Do you remember what you see the car game when the Card Game Starts Executive Card Game I'm wearing this. Need in the fish in the fish market may be to. Robert Patrick. Comes to the door. All right. That's nice. So but even more exciting, much more exciting than this Giorgio Armani jacket is today's guest. it doesn't get much better than this. You're only going to get this kind of quality. Guest, on Talking Sopranos and it's a real honor because she's the show would not be surprised without her just would not be. born in Bay Ridge, grew up on long island moved to France after high school worked as a fashion model appeared in several films early but the break Bake Brit, big break of course was goodfellas. which she was nominated for an Oscar, Golden Globe nominated for four EMMYS and three Golden Globes for the panels. Other films include someone to watch over me medicine man. Basketball diaries which I also was in. The one and only Dr Melfi. Lorraine, Bro Yeah Hey. she is. Harder. Michael How Great. Let me just start off by the only card game I remember you in is in Goodfellas. That's right. That was. That is one that you were wearing an Armani suit. But I remember that one very well. I know that's that's become one of the Classic Card Games in Cinema History I guess no shit. Sure. And the right now did you guys meet on Goodfellas? No, I mean I know you don't work together. Did you did you know each other before the? Sopranos Now, we didn't meet before the we met somewhere maybe basketball diaries I met you I, think maybe. Show the rain. So we got a whole bunch of die. Soprano listeners we've been doing this for a while I mean we got millions of people honestly and they they don't they know about us Dr Melfi. So you aborted Bay Bridge which I was born close to their you grew up in Long Island. Yeah, my parents moved. When I was about eight years old to Long Island. Okay. So so you grew up there mostly now when you were young, did you want I? Know you're a model? Did you want to act or did that just how did that come about? was voted the ugliest girl in sixth. Grade. I think the modeling thing was big on my list. Really. And I modeled for awhile I went to Paris and lived in Paris for a while and all the art directors and big photographers that I worked with always said to me. Go be an actress. Goldie. An actress even one night at dinner with. Catherine do not she said to me Oh? No, you're an actress. Really. Yeah? No No, I'm fine. I'm happy. I just felt that I could never. I could never make it. I wasn't I was a new diehard New Yorker as we know. I didn't see myself in Hollywood anywhere. Any how And You lived in Paris for how long. Ten years wow I flew in dry. You speak fluent French we on them. Very good. So how do you make the transition happen? From Model to. TO FILL TO ACTING Okay. So when I was in Paris I took some classes with John Stress Burghley Strasbourg son. And I had done a lot of commercials in France. So I was you know. I was like the girl next door in. France let's put it that way. And then I started to get these calls from directors to comedic them to be the American. In Paris also, it didn't hurt that I spoke French and So I did a couple of little really bad movies. I was bored to tears because all you do is you know as we know sit and wait I didn't know about building character or any of those things. So it was very boring to me. So then you get so you get started you comeback now goodfellas did you audition how that come about will do anything before that? Did you do movies or plays before goodfellow happened? What happened was is I met Harvey K tell in Paris. Any said Oh my God I can't believe I had to come to Paris to meet a girl who's from Brooklyn. So we hooked up in, we spent seven eight years together and. in Paris one day John Around, and he said, listen I gotta go home. My my work my life is in New York and currently me. So So I went and I sat at the actors studio for a year with Harvey. Special permission. Now. What did you do someone someone to watch over me before Goodfellas? I'd love that movie before I even met you I'm not kidding you I love that with. Tom Barringer. You played you know the Blue Collar Girl I love that we'd LE- Sky. God while. It was so good. So good really I did that after Goodfellas I'm all confused okay you're allowed. So Harvey introduce you to Mardi is that how that happened? I admit Mardi socially yet. Okay dinner with Robert Mardian, who else and then one day. He asked me to come read for the movie that he did before Goodfellas with Griffin Dunne after hours after hours and I in and I really thought I gave a really good audition was like even happy with myself, which is very rare and I came home and they said the harvey idea really good job nailing this. You Know Soho artist you know at the time I lived in Tribeca it was my meal. And And Mardi called me that night and said I really like you. I'm not giving you the part. One. Of the big reasons not giving US 'cause you're not experienced enough and I have to bring this film in on time I'm in trouble went over on lots of other movies and I have to really behave an. I'm a little nervous, but we're gonNA, work together. was. That the Rosanna arquette part. No. Dark haired girl. Oh. Was Linda Fiorentino. Tina But at the time. So when he told you that, right, we've all heard that right? Like you I love you. But you know you didn't get it. Hundred Percent I. Hung up the phone and lifted. KFI. That's Never GonNa Happen Blah, Blah Blah and it's a funny thing. I've always had a sense of a director who would like me because I'm not you normal kind of girl. So when I saw me raging bull in Paris on the Shaw's Eliza when it came out, I said out this director would like me. Like you know from photographs, you know is it Chagas will like me I just kind of new people who would be and not get. Seeing. Raging Bull I said this guy of get me and so I hung up installed cursing yelling you know as usual and And then. He called up. And said. We descript. But Robert Deniro at given me the book before and said to me read the book. Wiseguy, which is called why is political philology riding pelagic? So. Am I read the Balkan look it Robert and Harvey, and I was like I get it I'm from Long Island I was drawn up in a Jewish neighborhood which I thought was. Really, good for the role and markle asked me to come meet him at his apartment To Talk. Right well, this is good, right? This is true. Is this can't hurt. I said I can only shoot myself in the foot at this point. So I go up and Ray LIOTTA IS THERE And basically. He. Just wanted to see reaganite together. Chemistry read read like I never read for now. For see the chemistry between the two you if it worked. Law, obviously it's early did. Rain I got along really well by the way was a rock for me through through the whole movie. There's no ifs ands and buts about it. You know can't shove me in my mark he would you know He knew I didn't have that much experience. You know it's like I'll never forget one day. When I was working on someone to watch over me, the script girl came over and we were doing this scene in the in the In the cafe where I end up in the parking lot hating him but in the cafe. Eating and a girl comes over after the first ACHIM. Okay. So you did this you did that and she's telling me that I have to repeat. Actions my words. And I was like. It's really hard. People don't realize that. What is that? So I started to cry. I didn't even know what it was. You. What's the matter as? The actor. Right They don't teach us. Thinks. God bless Ridley Scott which is one of the reasons I adore him he said. Just, do whatever will I'll figure it out. That's a master filmmaker instead of making you totally crazy in trying to figure out. He I was. I didn't know I never even heard of. Yeah. But if you had to think too much about that stuff. Would have been terrible in Ridley knew really knew that you know and I said I mean I never even heard of that I mean I was dumbstruck with fear and really just. Don't worry about it do whatever and I mean I was saying sat on my hands so. But. But you know being Italian you see. But. Learned. A great lesson there. And the rain. So then you get nominated. For an Oscar that's gotta be. I mean this is your first big role like you said you green and then you get nominated that's crazy. That had to be like a world. Win Of all the award shows the hope Preston whole shut. You know what happened I which is, yes it's crazy and it's fantastic and you know I'm I'm I'm I'm proud of myself. I want is. The best part I think was night was nominated for Golden Globe before the Oscars. And everybody was calling and sending flowers and sending cakes coming over and everything and I whispered Harvey which a Golden Globe. A. And You Know what was shooting with Marty he? I mean I spoke about this on this show that he Didn't have a lot of experience in film and I mean I had studied for a long time. I did couple of little things but he made it. So he made me feel so much that I belong there and nobody knew me from from anywhere. He made me feel like I belong there. I was an actor and I should just have fun. You know and I. I'm forever grateful for that experience because he could have destroyed me. You know if he was not who he is you know what I mean but I felt like I could do whatever and try stuff and I felt so welcome and by the cast to by Jo and Ryan and involved it was wonderful. Yes. I must say it's funny because Sebastian Man skull. MANISCALCO, nine scalpels called me when he had gotten the part for The Irish Irishman, he was petrified I`Ma. God what am I doing i? You know I'm I don't know low and I said listen to me. These guys that you going into read we. Want you to get the job. They do not WanNa. Fuck you over. They do not want to hurt you. They want a best to you. And he was like. Shocked I said no, no three relax. No you lines no. Where you want to go with the character, you'll be fine and he did a really good job then. Did set to me after you know he said, you're right. They wanted me to be good name for she best out of everyone. That's that's Mardi job. Morio. Away says what ninety percent of his job is good casting. For that's what good director. And then making you feel welcome. So you're relaxed. So you will create and you will open. You won't shut down because when there's tension. I find I shutdown. Of course we all do. Does and you don't WanNa take a risk. You don't WanNa. Take. Chances. Kane now. Once you what you lose that. Enthusiasm on that confidence or the courage with kid. Absolutely. Because we have to open you have to. Allow Yourself. To have any kind of creative movement. Whether it physical weathered speaking whether it's costume whether it's anything. Suzanne Shepherd played your mother in Goodfellas Eddie's mother in Sopranos at my mother on. Blue bloods I love it. That's pretty funny. She's great. Extremely good roles scrape so so then. The Sopranos Come. Did you read for the Sopranos. Addition Yes you did. Tell me what that's about. I think it was more Chris own dragged bringing. Jimmy. ME. Jimmy me to La. And David the three of us I think we went. you know was it a reading I don't know if it was really an audition but I think Chris Albrecht just wanted to see us in person. I think it was more of that kind of thing but I went in and I read with. Jimmy. And You know. I through the monkey wrench David when I said I've played Carmelo. GonNa have a hard time doing that again in a different way your better way or whatever. But I'm a very different women now. I WANNA play Dr Melfi. IDEA. Yes. Wow. So you read for Carmelo you did read for Carmelo never. I didn't. Read. For Melfi with Chris, David and Jimmy and they brought is to. Say were interested in new Carmel that was. and. Schiller Jaffe sends me the script and I. It's a Mafia thing I listen I have refused the last ten years or whatever. It is every mafia script every I don't WanNa do that. And I said I don't want to do this. Sheila begged me please please read the script at least just needed he just wants to meet you. No no no no. No, and finally she was like listen do I have to get on my knees and beg you to read this stupid script I said, no, I'll read it okay. I read it and I was like Whoa. WHOA wait a minute. This is. A great script I said, but I don't want it took me agents. I don't WanNA play Carmella they like pulling out their hair. What do you mean? I don't WanNa do that. I. WanNa play Dr Melfi. And I. Remember that works this. This title is the Sopranos Not Dr Mouthy A. Bad advice right now, I say advice from the agents. So they big me to go in me him but don't jail him that. Earn out right. So one of my big reasons with David was. I gotTa tell you. I'm sure you want a nice. Lovely. Ethnic Person. In this role. But you never see. An educated Italian, woman. And I would like to do that. I, WanNa be that girl. That woman. So we talked about therapy bidding therapy talked about man's on meds. You know we had a lot in common. For that and I, you know, I, Kinda convinced them. I, did wanted. Melfi. Melfi or nothing else. We talked about having when people were knocking you know stereotypical Italian stuff we talked about that in previous episodes that here is an Italian, American that's smart and educated, and you know we talked about that that was a really big move and I think. that. You know the stereotype stuff it was always malfeasance Italian. He's Italian you know. And I think you know and I think he understood that. One coming from a woman, a mother. An actress I, say you know we've more than just you know making pasta in the kitchen. You. There, and here's a perfect role. Her. As other thing that I love about Melfi and Tony was that. It's a very intimate relationship. It's very personal. It's very intimate. Any asked trust her and I think he would trust. Somebody that it's from the hood. Now Yeah. How did you prepare for it? Two psychiatrists. In Life in real life and I stole from the both of them. That'll do it I took. In the Were they both women or was One man, one woman. You know you did so well that you know the you know this, the show got awards from like PSYC- psychiatric societies and you know all that kind of stuff. Yes but you know what? I did tell David from the get go 'cause I for me. I said listen. I'm not sure it would be sitting here. Talking to you if I didn't have a good shrink in good medicine I went to a really really hard time in my life and I said, but if you WANNA make Kerr the psycho killer sex addict. Blah Blah, Blah. I'm not your girl. Nike Bureau. Go get somebody else for me. It was very serious. Life turning experience. J.. Tony Soprano I don't know I don't know but I want her to be serious. Because you don't know when you read a pilot script or I don't know where it's going to go. But. I did say that my meeting. You were able to. The only known actor on the show I mean had you know you're an Oscar nominee? I mean no one really knew anyone else for real. You were yet goodfellas fill is one of the biggest movies especially if that John Mara not a whole lot of people could have done that but you Know you stay that Steve But. That was my God. Does. My Gut for this role. Made no difference what I done in the past. It was cool. I was in front of David. Talking to him about his script, his character that he wrote. Along the way, did you have a lot of input to give David any input on the? We know how went with with my character? Michael's carry about about you. Know I I guess one. How does he pay her? That's a good question. That was my thing. I asked him just as he pay her does he have insurance I? Mean he might through the Union do the whatever. was. Erica as a funny. Question how? Can you see him? Throw the money. Right. Now did you hit it off with Jim Right away? Yes you did. You didn't have to build that relationship so much guys kind of clicked. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Me Too I. Think. I. Think one of the things that I. First of all, I said his last name correctly, you was very happy about. That was funny. He's thank you for saying my name is my pleasure and I said you know I'm going to tell you something. I saw you in a play. Was It on the waterfront with Alec Bulled Win, Oh Streetcar? and. You had a SMOO- role I. Remember I can even remember where I was sitting in the theater and I said during the intermission I took out my playbill. And I looked up. WHO's this guy? James Gandolfini. Though I said so I remember you you know. I saw him in on the waterfront, which was a flop, but he played the lead J. Cobb. The friendly I guess is the name I think he played that role. After you could give him anything. Absolutely. Me When we did all those Melfi now look I didn't have all you guys. I just had him. Yes. It was a very. He was. Times what he would ask for was. For the film to be really long so it could do his most of his part like in a monologue. He would ask for five minutes of you know to have an you know in the in the camera junkie rolling. So he could just one like one sought. and. Once in a while, I would catch myself. Not, being Dr Melfi, but just being the rain Bronco watching this actor hum. And then over said, be Oh my God. It's my part. while. I was in all I mean I caught myself. I would say, maybe three times over the. Over the span of this series, but I've down downright with my mouth open. Yeah because the majority of your stuff was. So that kind of pressure cooker contagious you and him in that room in those chairs, you had scenes outside and with Bogdonovich and with your kid accent. But primarily, that was the crucible right you guys just in that. In that, you know our stuff was always all over the place and locations and different physical physical things and So it was a particularly specific intensity, I would imagine right all the time. Absolutely and you know I mean he he always came in the end. Neither. Monologue. My. How do you feel? How you accepting that I mean you know and then he would go on his out. Is Tangent of whatever you know. David had written for him. Did, you usually shoot his side I or what you shooting both you know did you do a master and then both sides at once or work? This is where I get your curse him. So we would always shoot him. I was the storyteller. Always you're always. So to cameras everybody blocked off dark dark dark everything dark. All everything dark behind me. So it was no movement or anything like that, and then we turn around and that bested. Would take his clothes off. He would do lots of things with hands and tongue and mouth and. Ready could see him except for me. That's funny. Like Hey, excuse me. Excuse me he's doing things. With My. Hollering. Come on. Let's go. Your. Show me. Which? Is Russ more in. Always. Right, now, date you a lot of times shoot stuff on a Friday night. We'll definitely it. Well, the pilot I remember we sweet finished very late tonight. But yes, whenever I would show up on the said, he would curse me. was later naive. Any he always had. Amount of dialogue up one time. He picked me up. I was all nice entreaty Brown and Suntan in a little nice summer dress and he literally picked me up, threw me across the makeup room and Said who? Gave you this. Because you only work one day and episode usually. You had the best job in showbusiness. Sho- business I remember you telling me in one of the episodes I had like ten twelve. As you said, you'll work more this episode I will in the No he used to like growl at me. But you had great stuff every week envy. So. Not to say this the rain now and I've said it in interviews. Now that I'm older, I think I enjoy the Melfi stuff with him. I think I understand that better and it's so good. So. Good. This episode what he says, he wants to smash you. Face it with a brick. Make hamburger out of you. It says you're the look on your face it so fed so good. So good I can I feel? And I'm sure you do too. Stephen Michael and I'm sure everybody in the cast. We Will Kinda blessed. Oh, Gosh in a lifetime one. percent. And the fact that I consider all still pals. Absolutely Yeah I haven't seen Tom Barringer in thirty years yeah. You know we have stuck together. Absolutely. Loved that about us in I don't know if it's. The show I mean on the successful things but. No I don't believe it was just show I. Really believe it's. Who? We are innately. I also think David Somehow consciously or subconsciously put us all together kind of a lot of the same background you know. Yeah, you know. and. Like you said, and even though you'd never worked I never worked with you and Michael you never worked with the rain, right? Now we're in a couple of movie. Oh You weren't. Oh, you worked with Jim EADIE. Pete about Donna Vich and then various other characters but that's it right? Yeah. Mine. Would see you at the re through we did a million appearances and things together and charities and all kinds of stuff I mean we did a lot of a lot of stuff together. I always said I was the Shirley maclaine to your rat pack. That's a good way to put it on. Foxwoods, we had so many less than so much fun. Seeing in Florida which was amazing. Amazing. Finale. How about when we were in radio city musical We were stunned by this success. Six thousand people I remember in. At the finale we were down the hard rock watching it. To over ten thousand people in the lobby member and even Steve. Van Zandt who's obviously played in front of. Impressed he was even. The red carpet. Yeah. Went on and on and on and on. It was insane. Halley so many laugh so many drinks. Games. And you WanNa know what also was fun for me my Pant I always brought my parents. Yeah. Yeah. They were great. Great I loved meeting them and they. You know what was great for me and I think you have this with Your Dad Michael. was they got to see my success. Yeah Yeah. Is it your wife's Dad Oh both yeah. My Wife's dad was around a lot Richard Yeah he away way but he was he was with us a lot. And my dad was with us a lot to yes and that was something very special about that they were able to. Really be a part of that. Mardi almost cast your dad wasn't interested in your dad playing Paul Vario or something like that. Robert wanted my father. Your father, but he had already cast. Paul Savino. Wow. I would have been interesting. You know but. But. You know when we did those appearances, they were so accommodating like you said, your brother Sal used to come a lot and the rain and and I have friends of mine calm and. Get a kick out of 'em enjoying it. Oh, absolutely. Woods would. Families foxwoods and. that. That felt my success. Really. Yeah. Absolutely and who else. took all my cash. Your family was your was the entourage which could be better than that. You know we ate and we drank only did the appearances and people had sweets and. Big. Things. In lobster in their room and and and if you can't share it with with the. You know. I. Wanted to ask you this question if you add to take one scene. That's you're the one that eases your favorite maybe the most difficult the one that means the most the ones that if you. had. To choose one as like to really be to remove to memorialize Dr Melfi which one would it be. Good Question Michael. not an easy one but because there's so many. So many. Heavy ones. Or an episode maybe that might help narrow it down. Forget. Me My favorite episode is with you when. And Only, pine barrens embarrassed. By far my favorite episode ever is God I loved it. Wasn't clearly the month the most difficult and challenging for you. You know I wanNA say the pilot. Because I always felt I was the weak link. In the show. Wow. Well, that's not true. That's your own actors. WHO's GonNa be interested in listening to do people sitting in a chair blah? Blah. Blah, Blah. Every may discharge. Different who would be interested in everybody? Does. That was the whole thing. What's the show about a mobster who's got problems with his family work is above above goes to therapist. Other Yeah, not it would not have been the same show without that component without. Let. You understand going into it when? You know you and and eating and the. You know there were great scenes you now if India. In. The pilot. I will tell you this. Called a David like eight, nine, ten months after we did a nice. What's going on? Don't they have to pick us up or let us go or whatever, and he said, yes as you know, it's very expensive the show. But why don't you call Chris Albrecht Will you friendly with him? Afterwards yes you're friendly with everybody, but I am so I said alright champions number gave me his number. I remember walking around my house. and. You know I never called an executive before. ooh nobody. So I could call a lot demand we speak to Chris all breaks. Out I think I was sweating. I said I could. Get on the phone right away. Hey, lorraine how I said Chris. What's going on I? Said you know I think we we all need to know it goes it's very expensive. I said okay. I said, can I see? Will you send me a copy of it? Right away I get the copy I watched the show. And I myself. Screaming jumping on my bed that this was the best thing I've seen in ten years. No matter what television show no matter. What movie I was. I was. Beyond. Thrilled I. Kolba Chris Up Act. I said I you kidding me. This is A. It is unbelievable and never seen anything so good take it up. Pick it up. I Must've listened to you. Know God. You. And I called David and I said, this is the best thing I've seen in ten years. No. Movie touches this. Wine, the right. How'd you like working with? Peter Bogdonovich she played your therapist I was at. Peter. Was a great scenes with the two of US old school. He was. You know. He enjoyed himself which was fun. I know that at God rest his soul. I think originally they wanted to cast. Lipton, which is named James. Lipton inside the actors. Studio. I have to really like him I. Think he's very pretentious and I would have had a hard time with him. Peter was much better choice. was really wonderful in that room. Rate. I think he's phenomenal in this. Guy He's a lot of he so interesting, it's So knowledgeable about filmmaking and and who in wine, and you know the fact that he can do those accent is kind of it. So cheeky accents, I don't think he can do Jimmy Stewart. He can do. Impressions my that none that. I've never heard that Oh my God you'll flip out he's. Going to have him on we're going. He's GonNa come on so. Tell me also about your project on which it. Discovery home what are we got. HDTV. I bought a house a one year old house in Sicily. Is it finished. Yes it is. That was fast. Air This this fall the how has done to. You like the way it came up. Back that's fantastic. So you're bought the house and the shows about remodeling it isn't it? We bought three rock walls. Yeah. Oh. That's how old is the house they original walls and stuff. Nation Eighteen. Seventy As you designed to. Help Out But yeah you know. I did everything you know that. Everything old everything reclaimed everything was great. In your forward to seeing that you're GONNA love it. It's great. I'm one of the few actors who has the distinction of being directed by you right I bet a lot of people don't know that. In the little thing that we did with. Barbara. But Barbara King we did a short movie that Lorraine direct what was the name of that? something. With the cars. Yeah. I mean look I had you had James Cameron I had. Octavia. Spencer. Melissa McCarthy. had. Robert Downey junior allow and buy stuff on Washington Square. Park. And it's a fall. It's a feature film. No, it was a little short. We did. We did this twenty years ago or negative. All Star cast all star cast. Can you imagine? Yeah I didn't. I. Didn't like it. For you. Yeah it's not. Easy. Well listen. We're really really grateful that you came on today and we really appreciate it and the fans have been asking for you like crazy realist like when is the rain coming one lorraine coming so Much. I hope you'll combat. Thank you for joining me. Of course, the rain we're just started. So before this is over, hopefully, you'll come back one more time I would do anything for you. Steve. Echo might live anywhere. Any time I love. Love. Love you guys. Thank you very much. Take care. Bye rate to see. Wow now, that was fantastic. Talking to Laurie fantastic interview. She's a great interview, a great story, great energy and and a good friend. A really good friend and big Yankee. Fan. I've gone to numerous games with are amateurs really good. She's got so much and we'll have a back on back. We're just starting out. So all right. We'll take a break Franko thank you lorraine. We'll take a break and we'll get into the episode support for Talking Sopranos is brought to you by Manscaping who is the best in men's below the belt grooming manscaping often precision engineered to for your family jewels they obsess over there analogy developments for provide you with the best tools for your grooming experience. I don't know about you. 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They said Hi Michael Please tell your Buddy Steve to go easy there. Laddy Buck. Don't understand why he's so bent out of shape when the truth is right in front of your eyes, the cut to black in the last episode is Tony Waking Up from the dream. As you go through more and more the episodes, this will become very apparent at least it should I'm not going to spoon feed you the signs along the way but if you need, I could perhaps be persuaded to discuss it live as a guest on your show which I am loving by the way. Really. Now. Keep fucking going keep going what else? Maybe we should have this guy or David Chase I'd WANNA fucking. So it's David Chase. I don't think it's David but for now please ask Steve. And this is where it gets really crazy. If the maternal mothering elements of bobby's character would deliberate choices by him made with the understanding that bobby is indeed surrogate mother for junior. The fat suit with breasts and pregnant stomach of course, being the more obvious of the clues but go a little deeper and it's clear. Junior was a chase Ian Avatar. Of oedipus sometimes pronounced oedipus. Gala is. Of course corresponds to the tuna and Sushi references Tony Makes Livia is the mother that junior wants to marry but the moment she is incapacitated bobby arise as her surrogate Tony represents the father oedipus wants to kill. Juniors most definitely impotent cannot perform intercourse, which is why he relies solely on link as the sexual expression. The most common position of such is lying prone in front of the women's spread legs mimicking an attempt at re entering the womb juniors relationship to the maternal runs far deeper than Tony. So my question is if st was hip to all of this and interpreted it into his Nurturing and protective physicality over junior or just steve just do what's on the page either way it works for me and was most effective over and out boys and PS I am not a pundit although feel free to call me that I, liked the name in truth. I am a gentleman and a Scholar Yours truly a s Aka the pundit. Now I'm thinking as is Anthony Soprano. Give me that. Me Send me that paper are white my s with it. That is just a bunch of Mumbo jumbo with a guy got too much unless that's from David Case. It is. I don't WanNa hear it I. Don't believe it. Is All Mumbo jumbo guides got a lot of free time on his hand don't know there's A. There's a little bit of you believe it i. think there's something there. No I think that you're breaking my balls because somewhere you like to row me up I don't like anything I'm reading you what this person said. I don't know. Yeah I'm going breast Free Junior. That's what America needs to see I'll hold you in my arm. Bald head and he ca. I. Guess that's what this guy's going on. They're going deep they looking into their they're really looking could be Andy Schneider was a writer on the show Diane. Andy call me I like Andy very much if not. Send it to me. Next episode are white my ass when it on camera. When I think about I love Al Enza maybe it's him and Annabella Shura could be a s so you fuck you did all. About. The initials Amari Studer Meyer he's a big soprano fan. No. How about Adam shifts the congressman Arnold Schwarzenegger. Adam Sandler. Andy Circus Alexakis off was a DP. Maybe he was. He was RDP maybe it's him. I love to hear if it's I don't know. So you are not buying this. So you tell me that I'm juniors a nursemaid what Not Literally. But what about Livia what am I going to do in Libya? Replaced, her as his mother figure because she soon as cheese incapacitated bobby buckle shows up. Okay. Really and you believe all this I. Don't know if I believe I'd say know that junior could only perform cuddling your study can't do anything else has been stay I don't know but she never makes it an erection. They don't really that do they. Move on man. You dig a more restart on my head to write that I. Don't know I. Don't know what anybody does. You know I'm just saying it's an interesting theory certainly stare onto something. Let's see. They get back you. Were on. The most important never. Hip to any of this motion. The most important thing whoever that person is said that he's loving the show that I'm happy about our show. Yeah. No big love the show. Thank you my friend felicity. Say. Season Two episode Save Me Pat Cooper wrote that motherfucker now I don't think so ma. Gets, you think Pat Cooper is now analyzing the Sopranos your character like he's I don't know I I. Don't know now you get now you're getting a little. A little crazy steph. Happy. Wanderer fantastic episode season two episode six first aired February Twentieth Nineteen Ninety nine written by the Great Franklin's Rulli number seven out of the eight episodes he wrote directed by. Our our friend John Patterson. This is number three of thirteen episodes and you know one thing I wanted to bring up. A big theme of this is gambling addiction which I wanted to ask you spent so much time in Vegas. That's something you saw firsthand and how devastated. Absolutely, listen I've always said this I lived at various for twenty five years of all addictions. You know drinking gambling drugs gambling worse because it's never ending. You know you know you do too many drugs. You'RE GONNA die. You know you do to your drink too much. You're going to have health problems going to be sick gambling just keeps on going. You know you know there's never anything you start stealing you still from your friends and family and parents which we we see what this guy starts knowing but. It was a there was Vegas in Vegas. A lot of times. There's the local bars and you got shot to double your paycheck. So on Fridays these guys were going the Baugh, they spend the wheel, you W paycheck all you get two free drinks. and. Then they would be in this bar and they would blow the. They got a handful of cash from two weeks of work. It's a Friday afternoon. You know they get off work to three four o'clock in the afternoon and they would blow the entire thing. The entire thing and I've seen so many people in Vegas destroy themselves that live there that work you know work in Vegas and it's not just world. You don't gamble. You weren't GonNa Casinos. I'll being gambling is a terrible. My father was obeyed bad gambler and then the excuses calm and the cons and the thing and I saw it a lot and people on their lunch break working to casino a dealer go of course, street chester check gamble the entire two weeks pay and then go back. Wow. So what you had an opportunity to w paycheck and a gang gambling game yeah. Yeah. Know you would go in so you. Cash the check go to the bartender. You say you made a thousand dollars two weeks pay whatever whatever was two thousand dollars you'll go in they cast your check your cash. Then you spin the wheel you know they doubled it. Know you gotta shot the double it. So if you bring them a thousand dollar paycheck and you hit the number, you're going to get two thousand. And they give you two free drinks. So you stick around you have the two drinks. Some guys Emma call the dealer by drugs and on and on we go. You know I remember at the Riviera where I worked you get paid on Sunday night and a lot of times you would see the guys whites lined up outside. You know soon as the check's came out the wives. Or the husbands would pick up to check because the wives or husbands had gambling problems. So they wouldn't blow it Iraq and those those poker machines. In Vegas Yeah, but they weren't there when I when I first got that you know one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty they started coming around. You know you know later on a little later on and you know it gave people that were intimidated to go to a table and play blackjack or craps. Now, you could play at seven eleven. Now you could playing the local bar you drink for free you buy twenty dollars worth of coins you drink for free a lot of time to eat for free people that wouldn't normally be gamblers became gamblers. That happened a lot and never ending you know now atm machines they keep on being that out now you can gamble online so you can have a few drinks you wake up in the morning you're down five thousand dollars. So it's not. You know people always say it's just a the peop- the tourists that come and gamble it's the people in. The industry locals have problems. You know the people that can you know the people that? Can Control it and you know enjoy and you know limited like you do you like to play I. Don't I don't like to gamble online at all I get I get very bored I don't get I. Don't like it I. Don't like losing the money but more than anything I get bored from it. But yeah it's a problem. and. So here, we opened up the episode School College night, the different recruiters command they talk to the kids guy from Brown at first, which is our producer. Eilly Landry says Alma Mater, Brown you know really yeah. Yeah. Yeah and You know and should I remember going through with my two daughters? It's a lot of pressure on these kids to get into the right school the best score. And there's a lot going on and the parents the school bedtime Tony the battle joined by. Davey, who is a Robin Patrick David Cotino from. Terminator two, all kinds of stuff disguise in every. Time he's terrific actors. Not Good actor strong actor is already did the catering. Johnny makes a whole meal out of like a stain on his like he always brings something physical in every moment like no matter what he's doing it's it's really specific. He's got the stain on his jacket in the bathroom. The next thing he's brushing it off I. Don't know what he's got, but he's Always brings that it's great. They. Davey. Who is kid is also goes to high school with meadow. Their classmates goes to Tony, and his asking him Who's he liking the game tonight Tony's his you know who he likes. Tonight Tony's Dafur his daughter to try to get into the best college possible. Listen to what's your best place for her they wind up at the school hallway. Audie lays out the pastries because he always gets roped into. You know doing the K. doing that's volunteer stuff. Obviously, it's on the arm he's not absolutely. He's hearing good things about Brown David's son Eric says it's a good school lots of Star fucking which I guess means there's a lot of celebrity kids are always there. At Brown I, know JFK Jimmy but a lot a lot of celebrity kids go to Brown. Which is I believe up Rhode Island Providence. Now, this is something Tony says, what's your don't quite understand. In. High School. They were Waie tiddle Joe Nemeth. To place now, the Allen, all the and Phil Donahue, what does that I mean? Well, I think why tiddle was a quarterback as well? Yeah. Obviously. Joe Name is was quarterbacks are always the big study position in. Football. Right. You know like popularity maybe they. Missed a popular and now they kind of milk toasts Kinda middle of the road white bread I don't know. To me. and. All these happy ought he's not happy with that. Analogy all. On his face he though, yeah, he changes he doesn't like it at all. Yeah. I don't know it's a little mysterious I. Kind of struck me as a little bit strange when we have frank rich Juliana gotta ask them ask. The doctor, the school hallway David talks with Tony. Here's through the grapevine taking over your uncle's game the big one, and he likes to play Tony as a friend. And, and you know someone who's kid also goes to school. He's telling him. This is not for you stay away. He. Just he's always sympathetic to them to absolutely very understanding and he says believe none of I like to believe none of what you hear and half of what you see which is in the song through the grapevine by Marvin Gaye. But it's actually a quote from Edgar Allan Poe from his short story, the system of Doctor Tom Festive professor fether. But Tony I think is referring to the song. He is he says like the song says. But it's a big deal. The big deal here is that Tony's inherited this game. Now he's taken over this game. This is and we'll see it's a big deal for Tony Yes. Yes. Legendary game that his father started with junior years and years ago when they were kids hands and it's a big deal. Murphy this is a great scene Murphy's office. You WanNa tell me what you think he's just. I don't think you want to know I'm thinking, I'd like to take breakage break. Your face to fucking hamburger. Very my God. I mean Jesus and the look on her face I. Mean She's dinner. It's just it's just so good. So good. I got the world by the balls. I can't. Stomach a loser. Now. And then the famous quote. He ask you know she asked him he told him when he was feeling is this a woman thing? Feel I tell you feel and now you're GonNa talk me with it just an incredible line. It is a really good line. You know. I mean but he does I mean the big question here is he does feel he's got the world by the balls especially now with this card game, he's making a lot of money. He's got the potential make more money. and. It's not enough. He's not happy. It's a very spiritual existential problem. I guess while she also says your parents made it impossible for you to feel joy? Yeah, I. Guess I don't know. Do you believe that stuff? Absolutely that it's I. I dig especially his mother. Everything's negative negative negative. I honestly believe that. And also Tony's pissed. I think this therapy is working. I think he wants to magic fix and I don't think it's happening. We're going round round and round and round the mother the mother he don't want to hear that. pissed off, it's just not working. He's expecting better is expecting results I. think so and they're not happening I card game ardy. Rich appeal veto spadafore is at the first appearance as of Joe Gannon school he as veto Spanish as Vino spent the first one we saw him as a different character in the bakery right when when When I shot, the guy shot with Chris shoots the guy in Tony. Serie Kohl's paulie walnuts real life brother is dealing combine com. Rico's the other good guy. Retired guy he used to like we talked about Lorraine, he would come with us on some appearance of. Brooklyn guy a funny guy and he got a a role in their. You know what makes me laugh here ardy who you know is completely pussy with. by. Amazed show mean he's playing. He's. He's having fun that's not a big game Agassi. That's. No Fun game, but he went some money and he scrammed. And Richie's their land in I mean it's his car. It's Ritchie's card game or is or is Ritchie just stared alone money. Card it's card game and. Seven. Grand David is into him for seven grand. So it's not that small game he's a degenerate. We see what a degenerative guy really is. I mean gambling on the mind here. Meadow and Eric practicing a song. Gone that's a song doing a song for Miss Saigon. She said we got our work cut out for US I. Know You're disappointed. Metal wanted to have a solo, she checked off the box and obviously they didn't give it to her they gave it to. which very interesting name. Gets a solo she's important for Howard College to have a solo and. Now he's. One of my favorite scenes. the doctor's office. This is Tony and juniors. Relationship is all about this is the best of uncle junior and. The talking about Tony's of the executive game and he's breaking his balls in he. Kind of saying you could run it. If you want knowing that juniors under house arrest wearing an ankle bracelet, immedi junior doesn't really have a choice here. You Know Junior explained that. He'd been Johnny Tony's father started this game thirty years ago and. What a great how shop Johnny was how great This man he was and that they had started this game So many years ago, and he says, Tony says, well, if he were so great. All left us was Chichi beans. Chickpeas right. US You know in other words left us nothing and he says, are you kidding me? He left he left your mother a package that could choke in elephant. So there was money, but there was there is. There is we they talked about it earlier episode with Janice. Maybe there really is some money. And then, and then they bring up for the first time on goal. echoey. The younger it's a juniors. The oldest Johnny was the younger brother and equity was between. Johnny and Corrado Junior. And Tony knew none of this. What he's got that Green Line you know he says You know I, remember my mother father arguing as she kept talking about fathers feeble minded brother I always thought she met you. That's a laugh out. Loud. And they say actually was strong as a bull and looked like a handsome like George raft which. It's always you know every you could tell this is a soft spot judy really he brought it up doesn't WanNa talk about it. You know Tony says you open this clan and no, he is right back. Then back in the day, the these these kind things are very, they weren't handled they. They didn't have a lot of reference points and He says, you know they barely spoke to language, but she found a good home and I remember when I was younger, there was quite a bit of this kind of stuff. Yeah. Parents couldn't handle. Someone mentally challenged at home you know and and they went into homes and stuff it completely different era and he talks about Livia. She's like the woman who has Virginia Ham. On the room and complains about not having read something to that affect and Tells, Tony. Some people are so far behind the. Leading. The Great Lights? This is a great. And he says that Ackerley. was as sharp as a Cubal and here. My friends at uncle likely was memorialized with the Echo awards and he you know this is the first annual echo awards were given out the night before the emmys. Soprano parties we had a brad grey our producers house. was just for us and we would show what we show bloopers right or were is the captions and I think it was the right as much. Certainly Terry victory winter was behind it. You know he's got an incredible sense hume, I remember being so funny so good and he did everybody's everybody got something. Everybody running an echo award it wasn't just bloopers. It was you know I showed him. The Echo Award nomination the. Best acting with telephone goes to James. Gandolfini and then you see that you know him. For something like that was so great. I think I showed one. Earlier on but this is the first annual. This isn't real collectors I I. I think there's one in the Museum of TV in broadcasting. Smithsonian shop is a Cubal really great scene, and also they talk about juniors percentage in the. Executive game and he wants twenty percent. And they settle on fifteen I mean Tony's just taken over Bass. Guitar Tony also days when he tells them about their sung-chol that he didn't know about. Hard. He's like days when he's saying, yeah fifteen percent whatever mean he works out of there he got punched. Got It. No doubt let's take a little break look with everything that's going on right now a lot of people are asking if it's even possible to buy life insurance at all and the answer is, yes it is still easy to shop for life. 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So he's just he's like a black cloud that just I mean it's he's You know I don I his concentration and you know he's just The presence. is so strong that he really created an incredible character and this he his when he hits the screen, he is scary thing is people probably think he's really liked that David's a sweet. died that laughs a lot. He's not that guy yeah, he's not that guy and. It's so good. He comes on screen you're scared. So he gives them the envelope in a he comes in for the vague he's. Now, is he two thousand shy? Doesn't he say to see? Yeah. Two, hundred, hundred see note. Yeah to. Sean yet. And he says, you know the principal gets tacked on top the minute he says that he shy you know like off bad in a ritchie this is bad news. He seen this before he says, what was I born ten minutes ago he knows he seen how this movie ends. You know guys already. Already I card game the guy's already short. He said it's a stutter step. He already took out a second on his house. And he says. This is what you were talking about in the beginning and he's a con man, he's alive. He's alive but that's He's desperate. He's a Desperado. He thinks he's going to have a run and make everything back and then some and get a absolutely. You know they've Davey is a flat-out degenerate gambler and he's in over his here and he's fucking around with the wrong guy. Absolutely. Absolutely the fish market Chris comes in with Sean is to flunkies. Yeah. This scene. This was a kind of disaster I was in La for the weekend. For something I remember it might have been to do a Dennis Miller show as talk show or might have been a I. Don't think it was a what might have been awards I'm not sure and I flew in late Sunday. And I had to be at work. Thing and I got in. So late I went right instead I figured you know what? Let's not go to sleep and I went to the bar. At I own at the time, my wife and I owned it, which was still open. This is a bad story I go to the bar and it's like three, three, thirty and I think I had to be picked up at five o'clock. So I said, let me go to the bar I'll stay awake I'll have a drink 'cause I got an really late. And I literally put down the shot glass and got in the van and went to work. Bad. Move. I was so tired. John Patterson had to make I couldn't remember the lines and I've always known my lines. On they had to make cue cards from me. So when I'm talking to the guy behind the counter, these big cue cards and I couldn't do it I couldn't read an act I mean there's no way you can req- cards and Acas you act looking at the Persian. Taking Do that we had to do it. I mean I look fucking white as a sheet. You could see it I mean I'm so I'm so exhausted hangover now now it's it's the worst. Somehow. We shot it like line by line and John Patterson God bless. Rest in peace and God bless his soul he was so patient. Got Me through it and and the guys, Lebron Kado and Chris Cardio were really supportive and and We got through the scene because it was. It's a lesson that I learned I never ever ever ever did that again, but it was it was kind of a nightmare for me. But you know what I it seamless you would never know in a million is now. So you know, you don't know anything you don't say wow, what's wrong I? It's so great. And You know you. You S, if it's fishy and the kids as Well it's fresh. And CASSANI probably said to make sure you get some fish don't get something fishy. You know obviously that's in his head it can't be fishy whatever it is. You know, Chris. Expires. You had a lot of lines. I had a shadow two lines along man. Job Patterson had your back there. He had my back one hundred percents, Chris. Explained the game to the guides what's going on? Students Talk to Sylvia of the warning though talk Silvio he's crazy when he's gambling when these losing and Matt doesn't like it. You tell them to pay for it and he said, what are we piss? Boys? Feeling under appreciated and that's been going on they they get close Tony they feel like they're you know pissing Sunday, they're ready to step up in this. You know this is laying the seeds for what's going to happen later on in this season but these guys really want to be you know they WANNA be where? Basically. They're going to be You know they're basically gophers in the Kagame. Johnny needs. Somebody's gotTa do it and they. rounded. A lot of guys sought out that way. It's funny Chris puts the matchbook does to show ya nickel and dime. He always trying to get over these guys and he puts the guy this back you puts. Puts the match but the scale and He says one you'll get your finger on and any kind of forces the guy to give them a better deal. Any accuses the guy of cheating him. Region is small potatoes. The guy you know, what did you say you know six dollars you know maybe data small date we're in the hotel that we had. We saw them in the first season as hookers now obviously. They took over the whole place is a mess should. See the clerk. Rings the bell that Paulie Walnuts beat the REO with season one. Bell and he comes out and he said you ruining know ruining the place. He says that your father made the business deal and obviously he says, we need the room with the story over the other two behind it. They've taken over the hotel and it's all gone to shit and hucker comes down and Furio. says. You know guys completing the his seat and. He. Answer you know do you take care of this guy and Very. Obvious. She says his beanie spins. I make his beanie spend when I take care of. I think that's a figure of speech though don't think it's. Corrupt. Today I'm not fucking. Around how do I know that you're not a yes and you didn't I got nothing better to do right. Fake stories about you know I got to prepare for episodes I'm writing. Monologues for for lunatics. So the guy wrote it on. INSTAGRAM. And because I'm the one who brought it up some fishy besides then fishing. I got nothing better to do I got all the time in the World Steve. I'M GONNA. Make, up fake people writing into the show. I duNNo. Okay. Pauly. The, we're kind of psycho you think I, am. This is this is what I do. My spare time invent faults I at people who call in right into the show we'll have him on will prove it I. Don't know if you want to bring him on the show when you only have guests only people come on this show maybe we gotta make an exception people that were involved in the show navy he is. The people that made the show. Great. That may be the Schley if they reveal themselves to be one of those. I. Let's see. We should. He's a if he's a writer producer. Sound man if he was involved in the show, not an outsider looking in, I'm okay. I mean listen just because you don't agree with his theories doesn't mean you you know we should just dismiss him. Okay the. Outside in the streets polling full of police. All he says, what are you hear what you say which Tony and Steve Van Zandt boat like to say they were James Cagney. Fans. That's James K I was James Cagney thing a quick James cagney story I don't know if you remember this Tony's the biggest James Cagney Fantoni Rico the biggest James Cagney fan and we were in Detroit member doing. Doing a conversation with the Sopranos Right and. I told the owner I, said, you know what it goes to the question and answers. You know Tony asked him a question about James Cagney he's a big Fan. Joel, the owner of on the ammo Nice Guy He. S A question he says, Tony my uncle was friends with James Cagney and he said he was a cross dresser. Totally says show you're. In front of thousand. People Shake Your Combust, did you tell them to assets? Did. Not I should say a question about James Cagney I, say about the chronic. He made that up. That's not true. Tony. He was breaking his balls a little bit and Tony focused break. It was a break in the show folks. Tony Points. paulie points. Got It cop. Cops on the take concerns we care for don't make noise. And now we're at the hotel executive game. This. Is. A great cast of characters here I mean it's just We got A. The Legendary Director Paul Mazursky Brooklyn College. Brooklyn College Guy Like yourself nominated for five Academy Awards started out as an actor. He was in Stanley Kubrick's first movie, which is call fear and desire. But directed at one of my favorite movies Harriet Tanto starring are Connie Art Carney won the Oscar best actor for that and Paul directed that movie and it's just a it's a fantastic movie if anybody's having seen that you have to, and also another one of my favorites enemies a love story. which was Lena Olin and Joe Mantegna but written by my favorite novelists in the World Isaac. Chevy singer Paul got to spend time with him and meet meet him but. Also present Frank Sinatra Junior. Who was, did you he invited us down Atlantic city to see his show after he appeared on the show. He's he's a pretty good actor. He's a good actor. We went to see his show we went backstage and he had his security gets in or out of my dressing of them when the Sopranos come in, we hung out backstage. Antics city now, but I saw him in Vegas would Steve Van Zandt and. He was at the MGM and Vinnie Pet Store And he was wearing a members only jacket, we went backstage and he didn't really talk to us. Invited us back then just really didn't talk to us and he had the same bodyguards. Merrill Kelham who was his father's bodyguard was also Dig a police Lieutenant Atlantic City traveled with him later on another guy and yeah, they really say much we saw his show but he's a pretty good actor I've gotTa tell you. He did very good and the other guy president. Louis Staten Island a really has done a lot of great work. On Broadway, he played Groucho Marx to a lot of claim play call Minnie's boys on bright but he he Replaced Nathan Lane and the producers as Max Bali stock. Did He? Yeah he's really. Even in this, this has gotten into freed the urologist. It's such a great. Cast it's just and then you know. Silvio Dante who is just get psychotic. In this breaking police breaking Dr freeze balls because he's A. Penal. Implant Dr. Penal. Implants. Yes. So he's he's giving him the jokes and those about to do some joke and he goes like this, which is. Yeah Yeah. Everyone's dressed up. This is a big deal Tony's eating shrimp cocktail You know it's it's a big poorly called Frank Sinatra junior cheer boy of the board a great line. I. Cheer. Boy. Tony's given instructions to Matt and Sean. Matt. Coles t Tony Wrexham. It says Tony On. The Games have been going all night. Silvio's riled up. He's losing. Now Tony Tells Matt to sweep up on the Silvio's. Feet and he smiles. Does he know that Silvio's GonNa fucking go off on I think this is Sylvia does Routine when he plays when he's losing, he throws his food on the floor. Gamblers are very shopper status. You know you don't They have to do everything the same way in oh they have. You can't mess with somebody's system or routine or do anything distracting 'cause they flip out and somehow that's going to affect their luck. Although Sylvia's luck is not. He's pissed off because he's loosened. So anything. That he can. You know unleash on he's going to and Tony. Knows that sense but he says I'm over I think to break his boss a little bit. Christopher. Already. Won Them All. What's he gonNA do the kids. Twin rocket hard place. The Boston shows you to sweep up under his feet of the Soviets feet. He does it and he goes off on him. Obviously he's nasty. He's crazy. He's fucking screaming. It's hilarious. It's. Where do you get these fucking idiots what are you Hazel he's those a reference to a eight, hundred, Sixty Sitcom said. got. Early booth right early booth and she's a made It's a really really good seen and it's very funny and But. It's a big deal even. With the boss of the family be at this game. I think it's a big deal for him I. Think it's very personal besides being they make eighty grand besides being very lucrative. It's very personal. You know when you're dealing with Frank Sinatra junior I think maybe he wants to see the boss there. Yeah. I just I just thought it was you know Navy grand when you think about it, you gotTa Give Junior fifteen percent. You got to cut it up a lot of ways I mean, it's good money. It's not. Not Bad that's not a bad night's work. Is that what you gonNA. Do Start Having Poker Games taking a cut. I should. and. Steve Great in the scene though I love He. So psychotic, he gets so I mean you don't really haven't seen him angry in the show you know he's the voice of reason he's. Only, and now he just goes off you cheese. Fuck. With. Jesus fuck me more food meadow gets picked up by Eric where at the Soprano House in the morning she's pissed because a friend of this Rachel Weiss Guy accepted into Wesleyan. A big school in Connecticut and Rachel is is if I think it's before I guess she was known as an actress I don't know if they would used that name after she. I. Hear You The executive card game. We go back to that. Chris Wakes Up Tony. Tony Continues Nine o'clock in the morning they've been playing for at least twelve hours. And what what I forgot to say was. Robert Patrick David's Cotino comes knocks on the door earlier and he says. Outside the door and he says. You know I'm friends with Tony. Christopher. Answers the door. And Tony comes to the door they go outside and talk he tells them to go away go away go away. And he weasels himself. In. His way in and they give him five thousand to get started. Right? Right. Off. Chris Wakes up. Tony to game is continuing how are we doing with slowing down to money says, how much is he into us for forty five boxes of? Forty five thousand dollars, and that's not that's real. That had a lot of money. And he tells. Christopher tells Tony he you will kate he said you okay. The last ten which this guy's just a liar degenerate you know a desperate guy. Ritchie. walk-in and and immediately. The fact that Richie shows up the tension just jack up in the scene as you go along it's kind of the card games there and it's funny in the last scene and it's going on agrements tied and all of the sudden. Here's. Now. Let's ratchet up times a hundred because he walks in look at this fucking lineup which I love and it's what nine in the morning nine in the morning and then he says, Hi Rich, which is the wrong thing to say I he's avoiding him. And he says, Hi Rich and David David pro vall which appeal just says Hi Rich Off. And then and he threatens Chris Chris tells of to take it easy whenever he gets in his face he doesn't get in Fuck Donald threatened me don't forget Christopher is not a made guy he's a killer. In his own right he says. Head he goes after he goes after Davey. Richie appeal. So. Good seen. Richie appeal. Then kind of in a good mood kind of happy. He woke up he slept all night. These these guys are all fucking smelly and stinky and had. I remember when we were on the set. And David. David was just talking and we were sitting beats between takes or something he goes. You know I just woke up I'm fresh I had a good night's sleep I went to the diner. He told me that I started out of Spinach Mushroom Almond. The guy made it. Just the way I like it soft in the middle and cooked on the outside with some whole wheat toast potatoes and I'm I'm ready to go. Yeah. No me that he had. He thought about all that shit before his backstory. Absolutely. He knew what he had for breakfast that day. Forget that you remember if all of that was shot in one day. I think. So yeah. Yeah I think and it wasn't a hotel obviously was shit was on a Silver Cup, studios? The game breaks up after after Richie. Grabs Davey that's not Frank Sinatra junior doctor free. They had enough. They know this these wiseguys don't want no part of this they're coming. Oh No, they don't want. To hear Bush bub-bubba Tony Tries to talk him into saying the game's over Richie, and Tony Talk outside and he is pissed at Tony does not know this but Davey old shame eight, thousand dollars olds which. He, knew that he wouldn't let him in the game. You think probably not probably would have said I would think Tony probably would have said 'cause he reluctantly let him in any way. Him first he didn't come with cash. So so you owe him a thousand and now you WANNA borrow more from me. Right now, the guys in fifty, three, thousand dollars between. Richie Appeal and Tony. A lot of wounding minutes. Richie is nuts. He wants to beat up Davey he says, sometimes you forget I forget what business you're in. And he said I'm not the only one ask. He said, you know you Tony says, what's bring it on whatever and he says don't be so dramatic backs off a little but then as he's walking away spits on the floor and he's so fucking goodman very disrespectful disrespected with the do that to the boss. Very disrespectful. Tony goes back. He's in the hotel bed babies washing up. He talent he wants to give you one day to sleep. Then you get forty, five thousand dollars and you know what? This is all about to. You know Like junior talked about early about the credit card companies they don't want you. They don't want you to pay in full. So you know. That's where they get. You know now you're you're you're you're shylock in the money to them. So forty, five, thousand, five, percent a week, and you don't touch the principal. So what's that Forty five thousand that's. Nine. Twenty two hundred a week is that what it is? Five, ten percent or forty, five, forty, five, hundred. So yeah. So there you go. So that's every week without touching the principal. So you gotTa, make that twenty, two hundred or whatever. It is all week every week, a Lotta money and a lot of times you can't come with the principals. So you pay this forever for years and years yeah. Worst credit card companies you know worse than mortgage company you know but this is this is what they want. You know that's that's how they make. This is what they want. So Tony, let's know listen. He's washing up to Tony pissed off. Then he brings up something. Brings up something about his. Something about. Boden. In College. Yeah. How'd she do a boat in or something about boating they Tony says what What are you fucking talking about Tony is pissed this guy. He didn't know he owed Richie, Prio money he wants this money two days and that's it. He's going to send somebody over there. Five percent every Saturday. Yeah. The eighty grand that they made at toasting they're having Champagne Avenue breakfast. Did they make that they get cut of every pot? That's how that works. They raking. Every part, they get a cut and You know that's why they had to what? Exactly what it is, it's different everywhere I know I don't know exactly what is is, but the they're playing for big money here. You know there's the one thing, twenty, four, hundred Bob over and over and over it's a lot of money these pause. Well, if it was eighty grand if it was ten percent and that's eight hundred grand. So a lot of money I don't know if it's ten percent I don't know if establish money but that's where they bought all the fish and the shrimp thing and the liquor it all comes out of that off the top and they're very proud now Silvio is in on it he's in on the cut even though he was gambling as was Paula gambling. I'm not saying they were cheating by have fun but. They were in their keep these other guys going obviously. That's what they do. Show they deep bodies. Keeping them going I mean who was playing Davey. was even efforts, Doctor Dr. Frank Sinatra Junior. Meserve Sqi or is he just dealing for the house, right? So Mizuki characters. Name was sunshine just three guys. Tony's very proud of it. He says, you know member uncle junior was you know tricky ten he used to chase them soprano house meadow and Erica rehearsing. Erica Rehearsing Tony Banks on the door. It's streak twenty PM. Now. The Avid Theory about three, twenty, eight, hundred. Three o'clock. I. Don't have a three I think you're now you're reaching Steve You know you. A little bit with these. Looking for stuff everywhere now. So. He says he she says, Oh, by the way, Uncle Bob's. Father in law. Dom Tom Tom's. Barbara his bits Tony's brother-in-law's father. Yeah. and Tony's like what did you find out anything what how you know like she doesn't achieve. Genuine signals great in this, just like a teenager. I don't I don't know what the fuck you taught that big of a deal. Yeah. Tony's explaining to Melfi Melfi office cost to win not supposed to win and member the as Abella episode wins kind of a harbinger of death and we're talking about wind again she brings up Carlos. Castenada. Who I've read every Carlos Castenada book I was having for well yeah. He's the first one was the most famous teachings of Don Juan but he was ucla anthropology student who went to northern Mexico and met with a Shaman who didn't know is a Shaman I and went through this whole apprenticeship training in this. Ancient toll tack. Told Tech's indigenous people in northern Mexico. Toll. shamanistic training and went through all this stuff and then taught it in in the to certain like disciples in the US for many years. Incredibly interesting. So she quotes that and he says who listens surprise fighters. So who does he think she's talking about? Karl I. Joy to look up a name that. Could that. Kapros. Price. I'll e maybe. I. I have another uncle and She's he's expanded to sixty five years old blown off the roof. He just retired a day ago and I looked up Who might be the Fire George? Travel. Golo he fought him I don't know if that's if that's what that is. Ali for George Kavala after he got out. After the break. So he explains the Molefi about that. The happy one of those. How you could join join the rest of the Douche mix right. Any bring also brings up Uncle Luckily. actiity that he's got this Akhil that he never knew about is that make you feel better coming here? I don't think it does. Doesn't make him feel better does. No? No No, and I you know. I don't why Tony So. Hung up on that I mean I you know I mean. I guess that they kept it for all these years. I guess it's a heavy I guess. Yeah. Be Personally I don't talk to my father's two brothers. So I could give two fucks you know right to be honest. Tony Stories. This week. They give homes, Talbot said. I. Didn't know you don't give a boost. At a funeral well, listen Oh. Okay. So people we talked about a boost in the past stats that weddings money come wedding community. Birthday. You give a boost I. It's an Italian thing but it's more of a back east thing more than anything Jewish families at their events for Mitzvahs and stuff you give a boost which is cash show a check in an envelope and. You I never because but usually usually. You give it if. You, know if the family maybe can't afford the the widow or something. Yeah. Katie's Thomas collecting it for probably the widow of he's got kids to pay for the funeral, which could be quite costly. So they give it a boost ritchie. Antonia given a boost And and you know the to help it along sometimes they'll pay for the whole thing but usually depends on that. Yeah. So I did see one funeral they X. forward in the email. kind of like a little different because then then you're saying that there's some need here in that want to help you can help. But just as as the thing because this, this is an older guy he's leaving a widow she's old. Dinner citizens to help out to help funeral and you know Tom, the actor was. Thomas Play Ed. Vitale. Who passed away in two thousand fourteen we talk about him he was A. Sweet Guy I worked with him in a very. Numerous senior him. He was just sweet sweet guy and member of the labyrinth. Theater, which was which is A. Very. Well known in Great Theater Company in New York that you'll ask as part of Philip Seymour Hoffman was a member of and. Stephen Adly Girgis. Is Done. They've done a lot of his plays and it's he was A. He was a member there and there's a lot of great work with. He didn't know he died a few years ago. He's a young guy and of Nelson fourteen a really good guy I did not know at the time you know so. The Father Moore is dead Tony Wants to leave Libya is crying. She's hysterical mess I mean how close could live you? Know and he tony. And you know I mean Do, they give the boost commerce trying to calm everything down she's taking charge. then. They go back to talk Tony and Richie, and now you're Tony's Kinda re reading of the riot act and says that I get mine I calls him a jerk off right says that's your fine. I get my first but. He backs off a little. How's it going to look at the end? Right instead of just saying I, Get Mine I. Know Yoed Richie, I Tony Second but Tony The boss he's getting paid I. That's how that's GonNa work. How's it going to look and he don't like that she don't like it and let me tell you some I gotta. Tell Ya. I think in real life. If he would have did that to the boss, Ritchie would've been gone. Maybe, he would spit it the boss. To what he's been doing I think Richie would have been even though he's the brother of A. You know? Maybe, that's why he's getting a pass I. think that's it. I don't respect. You know certainly not 'cause he's with Janice that would no no but Tony Worship Jackie a prayer as we know I, think it's that it'd be a pass. Their sleeping in the car. Leaving the funeral Livia sleeping and. In. There in the car and it comes down to stirring shit starring it mother does the entire. She does it the Balk La later on she does it the entire way of the series he said they tony being actually gave me fifty thousand put on the street and she talks about her father. Give. Someone fifty thousand thirty years ago, which was five hundred thousand back then and mailman make more than that. She says, she really just sticks. And Me Jesus fucking and you see it gives us some dirty looks. She is just a fucking evil troublemaker Janice. I gotTa tell you. They're both evil yeah to acid. A match made in heaven and Libya's cold and live out call. She's exhausted from all the crying sporting goods saw tony walks into David Davies. Office. What do you think I'm still on the school bus. As our tapped. Tony Punches him I guess. The babies crying and he's a con man. This is what they all do I'll. Only doesn't WANNA. Do this let's. Guy knows it and essential to collect. And he disappeared. so He's playing games. You know maybe you know maybe he's disrespecting Tony also. He's not paying all these restaurant. Already Buco to borrow Tawny GLUCO. Great. Definitely. Definitely knocking he's barking up the wrong tree. It's a great in he swears on his kids. You know. Already says, would you knock up to the tai-bo broad in in in the store? tai-bo used to be a kind of. Exercise I did take billy banks really. Good Guy Good Gal. You did a video with him know. What you just said, you did a thing with look. What the. Fuck. You're doing doing videos, tai-bo guys you just sent it. Would you? Say did appear a trend well, I didn't appearance in. Lexington Kentucky with him. He's a good guy. What did you do? There appears for what? Like a bunch of different celebrities, you know you billy banks in Hama half inch celebrity billy, banks Dominique Wilkins. Some soap op. You know like we did in Pittsburgh with Franco? Harris Franco Harris I was one of those and he was a good guy. I'd like to very much great song in this scene by the way, love is strange by Mickey and Sylvia Classic Really Good Luck David Driveway Davies driveway pulls up he sees his sons SUV. Excuse to take it from A. Really really horrible seeing scumbag desperately yelling at this. Look what you're doing. You're you're you're completely lied you know. The mother's gone you got to apologize. Does, the mother that Oh it's going on maybe. Sometimes. P people want don't want to see the truth they keep your head in the sand maybe maybe he hides it as best he can who knows but it's it's really sad I mean he's got a good business I mean it's a big store. It's like one of these big five's. It looks like something that might have been in the family like his father might have started and he inherited that kind of thing in in in the neighborhood for years. Fixture. There forever and he took it over because he was into sports which we find out of the episode but it's so sad and it's probably a good business but the way he's gambling there's no getting out. I mean you know? Now, this is something so He pulls away. Obviously he's GonNa. Give destruc- as partial payment or what do you think he gets with the truck on off off his debt so IOS forty, five, grand twenty no maybe WanNa maybe twenty I don't know at the time of the cause something like that, right? It's pretty new. Sons Struck. Now. This is something that I got a question. Tony's judgment. Would you give that half? Classmates truck maybe should've had a painted I may not be dead serious now come on. This is a little. I mean I think it's in bad form man. I. Mean you're giving. G, she thinks it's a bad for why I have to agree with it here. Giving I, mean why don't you wait till? They graduate way down the road bring the you know the liver, the truck being leave Dan, I mean, right. Then there the kid had the truck that morning and now you're given a classmate she's GonNa drive around with it. Bad for during a bad position, he should have painted. I painted what it did put you know what I'm saying she knows right away that it's Eric. She wants to have room very big kind of A. Tony Soprano does it make moves like that? I'm surprised I'm a little surprised. You know. Cloudy judgement clouded judgment and Tony Tony Blames Meadow Kinda the saying. He didn't do anything to you. What does he have to do with his father and then Tony says the commodity see this as you talking? And Carmella says just letting you know his wife is very close to the brother-in-law of a provost at Georgetown you needed so insane. So insane she zone saw another words. What are you doing say away from him she may not get into Georgetown because of this. Exactly and he caused both of them on their shit. And just says you know you guys benefit you get every every luxury and everything you want based on my? How I make a living and you have no right to judge me. Take a high moral ground sleep in the. The bus station but I mean so just let's US first second analyze will come out with says so. Davey owes you money. and. His wife, why Carmelo doesn't know how much no I understand that. But still if you fuck with Davy his wife knows approval she could the brother-in-law what is His wife is very close to the brother-in-law of a pro. Life is going to call. The brother-in-law and say listen just. So you know put in a good word for meadow soprano. or a bad word his. How far this fucking with my son and husband make sure she doesn't get. Please tell the provost. What the fuck are we talking about School Auditorium Tony. and Aj awaiting medals performance again, Ritchie Janssen Livy Levy looks twisted you. There's this the shot of her sitting there in the back of the auditory she just looks like twisted man. Though great it's Flowers Richie brings flowers. He's scary even when he's dressed up and bringing the followers Richie of Brielle. Something looks out of place no matter where he actually yeah I mean here he is dressed he's at the high school. Auditorium you. Backstage Eric You know your Dad's an asshole. Fuck you fuck you gangsta father. Not. Her fault. The. Kid does know what his father did I guess. You know it's a bad bad deal there man the kid walks out. He's not GonNa do the duet now it's really bad. They announced that Eric is not GonNa Perform and Meta will get the. Solo. That, she wants a come eller a lucky break. She gets to solo that she originally wanted that we talked about. And it's the second titanic reference that you get that it was the second one one t Paulie Wall has the Viagra joke that they're going to put it in the ocean to race Italian Tannock. Great episode. Yeah and the last song is the happy wanderer by Frankie. Yank. No relation to Weirdo. Very good episodes. I gotTa Tell Ya. You gotta be fucking roundup to I'm not trying to I'm just relaying I'm the message don't kill the Messenger Amari Sonthaya wrote the fucking letter I love research. He's a friend of mine. That's what I'm saying maybe he's doing it. Too. I don't know he's a soprano fan. All right. It's time for the talking soprano. Ask. Me Anything segment. Okay. The winner of our ask me anything best week is Daniel. From Stephanie Australia where we were year which logging. In conversation show. We're sending Daniel pair of bose headphones like the ones will wearing both. So Daniel S. During your time to show what was the response from the Italian American community at this time was it negative as you were portraying the criminal stereotype or alternatively? Was it one of admiration as actors of Italian descent were part of such groundbreaking TV history? Love you guys pies odd from Australia. So you both when you hear brilliantly insightful podcast, I'm only twenty six, but the show was timeless God bless. Well. Of course. I say ninety nine percent of Italian. Americans loved the show. Really love it though really love it. It's In Tien Americans in the Italian American community I think and I, and I think a lot of people related to it. I think a lot of people. saw some in their families or new people from wherever in their neighborhoods So I think ninety nine, maybe more percent. Loved it. But there was some blow back. Some of the season's about. the Italian Americans thought it was portraying stereotypical mobsters sh. and. I had a little. Addict might have talked about it. I'm not sure but you know I wrote. My first book was combat guy to life. and. It was Kinda hitting the Italian stereotype on the head it was a Comedic Book Joke Neck But then I also wrote Nicky Deuce which you were in that movie and I told you I was doing. A book signings around the country and there was some one writing letters. Signing, his name to it some Italian American coalition. Saying that I was pertained just it was a kids book. But Nicky deuce is all about debunking stereotype. Absolutely absolutely focus about the appearance is deceiving don't don't don't judge a book by its cover, right? Right. So that's it was about. But of course, nobody pays say he didn't pay attention to that this guy so i. You, know he was sending these liners I mean I was still doing the book signings. And I called. Towards. Your unhappy tell me how we can make this metal wh-. What is it? You know you. WanNa meet what is it? I said listen this is what I know. I know this is the life that I know I grew up around just like this is. The Sopranos are part of Italian American culture. It's true. This does exist. It's not all bad. They're not cartoon characters playing ridiculous are real characters that I think needs to be told. So tight Americans are slice of tying American life not if you believe that every italian-american is a gangster or in the mall, but then you just ignorant eyebrows that's not true. Okay and so I told this guy I said, how can we make it better? This is what I wrote about. This is what I know. I'm not gonNA write about some upper-crust Wasp family that I know nothing about I didn't grow up in I grew up. You know lower middle-class broke in this neighborhood and he said, well, maybe if you make a donation to the coalition. Shake where the guy he was. Trying. To shake me down and another thing a lot of times I would run into people and they would say. You're on that show I don't watch that show. And say, why not while I have you know Olympics Italians bet. Did you see it. No but I heard. Now, your yourself listen to show was not for everyone. A lot of people didn't like the cursing. A lot of people did not like the violence or the sex I get it, and that's okay that. Not. Everything. Is Everybody right? Absolutely. But to tell me that your friend said Blah Blah Blah, I don't listen. To Americans not all of us that'd be they weren't making this look we want. No of course, not I mean I went I remember early on I went on the view and Joy Behar said you know The. You know why is it? Why these things always making the Italians look bad and I had to explain and just say. You know we're not saying all Italian Americans are gangsters at all like you know I mean we spoke to Lorraine about just saying. Melfi is a great example. That the show is not just about gangsters and. If, anybody has a right to complain about that. Then it's the gangsters but not it's not meant. We're not. It's not meant to represent the whole experience of being italian-american. You know what I mean. Was, a bus driver you know no one's confusing him with a gangster wasn't like that but this show. I think like you said, ninety nine percent of Italian American fans and all the fans for that matter knows that it's not meant to represent. We're not staying everybody is and it's The one episode did you write that episode of Kolkata Christopher about the Christopher Columbus, all that whole issue which we really David really wanted to. basically roast all those people like you're talking about who are these coalitions because it was a couple And he just wanted to basically you know torch them and that that was the whole point of that episode. You know listen fifty years before the Sopranos was very different story with the Times because they hadn't really assimilated they were discriminated against when they first came over here. And it was very hard for them to you know rise in society and climb the you know the ladder in the hierarchy and it was you know the but. By the time. Zone is a very different story in Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean listen. People. Some people like to complain you know me now whether they. Really felt that way not all you say I mean I. Don't know you know if you don't like something I know the way I am. If I don't like it. I turn it off. Something offends me watching or I don't like a restaurant I never go back Blah Blah Blah I. I'm that guy. I. You know so. There you A. Wonderful. Question I. Love Sidney hopefully what we back there. And enjoy a bose headphones man. Thanks for listening. New episodes released every. Monday please subscribe to the Talking Sopranos podcast wherever you get your podcast, follow us on twitter and instagram and please like us on facebook. Are Executive. Producers. Jeff sussman producers Andy Evert Rahm our music was composed and performed by Elisa Amazon you could hear more allies as music by clicking the link. On, our website Talking Sopranos Dot Com. Production crew includes Eric Dizzy Bobby Hutch Frank Mackay, Tivat Rahm, and Sierra Sharia Talking Sopranos is a pajamas production. Right Pal. Thank you very much to Lorraine Bracco who was just a wonderful guest. Great guests. Great to see her and hopefully she'll be back and you do your investigation and Michael. On it. All right now talk to you don't you?

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REShow: Glenn Howerton and Kevin Harvick. Hour 3 (09-03-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Glenn Howerton and Kevin Harvick. Hour 3 (09-03-20)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. Let's have a little fun with Matt. Ryan, before we send him on his Atlanta. Rich. Eisen show. So what's your favorite sports movie Paul Man? Suggestion for you match. PODCAST, at richeisenshow DOT com. The natural. Rights. On the show Lion's head coach Matt Patricia Pro Football Hall of Famer Terrell. Davis from the Tampa Bay ties rick strapped coming up from peacocks AP bio actor Glenn Howard Plus Nascar Cup series driver, Kevin Harvick, and now. You're rich is. Final hour of the rich Eisen show here on this Thursday, we'll take some phone calls in just a few short seconds here to kick off our third hour. We've already had Matt Patricia of the Detroit. Lions the Detroit lions joined us to kick things off Terrell Davis and Rick Stroud Pro Football Hall of Famer Terrell Davis saying saints and chiefs are going to be his super bowl pick for this coming season. Rick Stroud of the Tampa. Bay Times did nothing to did nothing to throw me off the scent of Taking, the Tampa Bay buccaneers. But. Super. Now, there's a pick right there twelve to one for the Donald K. Glenn Howard Tan of AP Bio, which is back for a third season after being canceled after two seasons, Peacock Razor Hanson. Let's let's make a third season and put it on peacock going on September third today's that day. So to celebrate that. Little Peacock Party. With Glenn Howard Tan Kevin Harvick, who's won seven races on ask cup. NASCAR Cup. Series. Circuit. Playoffs start the ploughs, start this weekend. In. Darlington. And I believe if I'm not mistaken, let me get my ducks and rural that'll be on. NBC has in. Five hundred times when the coverage starts on NBC. ABC. Last hour we spoke about that gentleman's Dad Bart Giamatti. Because of the cubs and draft kings coming together for partnership and what what Pete Rose might think about all that can't believe it. And live phone lines up eight, four, four, two, four, rich number to dial. And we didn't even hit on Steve Nash named the head coach the Brooklyn Nets. So Hey, guess what yet another former player, another point guard who's never been a head coach anywhere before work for the warriors in and. And Steve Her. And so the head coach, it's going to be given the gift of Durant and Kyrie Kevin in Kyri. In In Brooklyn New, York not bad. Not Bad for your first GIG, it's going to be the. Most. Recently was a soccer analyst for her. Pardon me champions. Leeann. Go. That's how we kick off our phone calls here in our number three will also get the question second I promise Sharon in Vegas here on the rich Eisen show what's up Sharon Sharon. I'm so excited to be on your show. I'm excited. Excited then. You're like a ritual morning ritual, Bernie. I appreciate that Vegas morning ritual. Thank you for saying what's your mind. So I was just really surprised and shocked that even nationally with the now going to be the coach for the Brooklyn Nets. And I know you share conduct but there were so many other coaches out there that I thought would be considered for the position. So I just wanted to conversation have a conversation about that. You think it's just again Sharon that that we used to. It's a copycat sport just like any other Copycat League that you call the NFL. It worked well for for Golden State. It's it's worked well to have guys that might not have had any experience coming in. We've seen that in Major League Baseball working out for some of the managers that have been hired and Major. League Baseball and I mean Steve Nash's basketball IQ I. Q in General being a Stanford. Cardinal Right. I mean that there's no, there's no. No question about all of that. So. He's definitely somebody that can. Bring. Maybe Winston. Durant and Kyrie would respect to to get their direct from. Yeah. inkyk who has a great pedigree for pop the Nellie so an working with her I suppose you know probably will work. But your thoughts. Thank you. Appreciate it. By the way went to Santa Clara, which I think is the Stanford of that portion of. California. By or drive. I maybe that's again was given World Hey Kyrie. Do. You think he might take a point or two on bill playing the position from Steve Nash who knows. I should ask a cell phone I should ask itself and asked me about Cairo edit. He's been in California's been hanging on a very long time. What's going on Ed? Hey rich enjoy the show. Thank you start to just wanted to touch base on what you said earlier about the officiating that took place and last night game sir. It's You know it's kind of tough as me being an official for twenty four years at the high school level and you guys criticize these guys. It's tough in a job to do as it is. But Not really understanding the rules and what legal guarding position is and as officials you're trained and taught to protect the shooter and that's exactly what Mark Davis did yesterday and as everybody knows, he's a crew chief out there. So you know he's picking up the other guys that maybe don't have the stones to really make called in a tough situation but as an official trust me, that was the right call. So. How is it protecting the shooter when the ball is released and gone it doesn't affect the shot at protects and because his right side of his ribcage is exposed and you need to make a call to keep people off of that, is that what you're saying? Well also, you re even though the shot is released, the shooter has to return back down to the floor. That's when the shot attempt to end but. Also you understand even if he did release the ball in return back to the floor if defender crashes into him, it's still a thou-, and in that instance, it wouldn't be shooting foul. But at that point of the game they were out of thousand went to the line. So because it was a bona situation is what you're saying. Okay last one for you. I. Feel I'm rich Eisen show interviewing in from California former former or or maybe a current high school official. So what about swallowing the whistle? What about this being? One fourteen, one, fourteen what about you know that? and. It's a great question and as a high school official doing big time playoff games there other. Crew members that I've worked with, and it's a last second shot. There's a time out and we come together and I worked with guys who said, make sure you just swallow your whistle I've heard that term mentioned. So that does exist. But for me if a foul is about the GONNA call it, I'm going to blow that with. Depend on, you know the feeling of that official working the Game Ed. Thanks for the call really appreciate it. Let's say in California giving you a zebras point of view and I by all of that, there's no time left. We're going over time because the guys decided in the extra time why come on now? Mark Davis should know that. You're partly, it was already blown up. Or? We're. Seeing. That wins I. How did that Bucks Oklahoma City? Westbrook should be deactivated. Triple play of yours workout yesterday. And then go. That's why I'm here with you rich. Not, in the desert I, if were outside Wrigley Field Right now. Okay let's go to Ryan in New York. You're here on the rich Eisen show. WHAT'S UP RYAN Put Ryan back on hold for second put Ryan back on we'll give them another shot. We'll take another phone call on a second. We haven't done the poll question yet Christopher we no. It's been. It's been up Charlie Sheen's fifty fifth birthday today. So we're just throwing this out there. What's the best thing? He's done work wise Okay Platoon Wall Street wow. Major League. I mean three just ethics from the eighties and two and a half men will. TV. TV. Run at richeisenshow vote right now. Now he was at the very defers. super-quick Cameo at the police station but No, I got you the thing Charlie Sheen's done platoon wall, street major league two and a half hours. It's late in the game. So I gotTa have to I'M GONNA. Have to put my thumb on the scale. Do it. What do you think? I don't know how? Games do it. I don't know how you don't. You go with anything but platoon. Exactly. Ritchie's on. Wall Street good platoon is his Wall Street. Play his platoon is it's you know is Oliver Stone's? Biggest. First thing I mean he that's where he really came on the scene I. Think I mean you thought that apocalypse now was the pinnacle of Vietnam Film. Or that you couldn't see anything that would make you feel. Like. You're in. The, you know what? That was platoon it really wants. And Charlie Sheen was like. An and the connective tissue with apocalypse. Now, being that Charlie Sheen is Martin's son. To basically saying I'm going GonNa go and do a film about the Vietnam War. And it's something that's going to be a seminal work of mine and it's going to be. As good as apocalypse now are mentioned in in the same Voice of what movie my Dad did. Well. Yeah. Platoon. It's tough for me not to, but bud, Fox and Wall Street is I mean remarkable phone I understand? What Major League means in the sports film landscape And what he you know wild thing and all that and. Two and a half men. Can Buy a lot of tiger blood with two and a half men money. So. That's that's up there. Up there but I can't i. I'm clicking on platoon I just click job rich. It's losing. Platoons third place. No love for Wall Street which I love that Major League weeds right now forty six percent oh wow says our audience. Our audience is something a group of People I. Adore thank God for our audience. But they map and they have been patently disappointing on the subject of. The last few weeks and I'm beginning to feel a little bit dismay. That's all it's lomb losing I'm losing my grip not personal grip. Let's see Fry New York's back on what's up Ryan. Ryan. All right. Let's put them back on hall. Let's go to Aaron and Key West Florida. What's up airing? Hey rich how you doing what's up brother? Am A lifetime read San I can name the whole starting lineup, but the only pictures I know about Tom Seaver and Pedro Borbon. Really sorry to hear about Tom seaver passing today man me to. A Gift I know heroes into the hall of fame. How's that? Here's what he does. Calls, a press conference, a public announcement whatever. He says I was addicted to gambling I had a problem he admits it. He's he apologizes. Everybody has addictions, alcoholics, sex addicts. Some people are doing the shopping pete was a gambling addict. I'd say. He's in the hall of fame. Next year Erin I said you know when I said this? And this is what I've been saying for for years. I don't know what platform I really had because it was on sports center at the time when Mickey Mantle or I was always just coming up in the business or whenever Mickey Mantle went on his tour saying that he had a problem with alcohol and he basically said, don't be like me. And talked about how His Battle of alcohol was something that everybody? Should understand led to a whole bunch of choices that he regretted in life. If Pete Rose had done that like literally had sat down with. In Donahue name it in in any. If he had done that, and then he had a chance after he wrote a book, We got a Bookstore and had another chance at it and never. gave. Much quarter he's been on this show Pete. And you never want never wants if he basically said I, know the problem of gambling I know about the addiction of gambling I know how it can destroy careers. And I'm sure there have been families out there and this is what I did to deal with it and don't be like me. I just don't know if that's all I just don't think that's him. That's just that simple. Not Stubborn. Thanks for the call. That's Aaron and he was Florida on the rich Eisen show. Let's go back. Let's go to. Thomas in Pittsburgh here on the program. WHAT'S UP Thomas? Johnson how you doing I'm doing well, what's on your mind? I was calling to see if you Calling the take your thoughts on the. Well, I'll I'll repeat it again. I think I think. I thought he would've been a great fit and thanks for the call right where you're calling from and Pittsburgh. I. Thought It'd been great. And anybody. WHO's out there go? We're set it running back. No, you're not. NOT RUNNING BACK Not, even not even he. What Tennessee said it running back? You could say Baltimore Dallas at no teams. Dallas is not I mean I guess Dallas Running Back Dallas the Ravens. Ravens they love Dabo going to. Say. No teams that are running back hammocks a handful handful. Guesthouse the Senate running back is that what? I what I heard. I. Do because I'm still pissed off about. Zeke, coming off the field. Nineteen Times a game last year. Snake does. Not Me being on the edge it was literally my fantasy self. Still, not able to give up how my year was destroyed by Michael Fabiano telling me take. Zeke over. Christian. McCaffrey because it's not a PP. points. Not ever go through your head yard apps was telling you that just to throw you off. So. We're not taking Elliott next week. No, you're not. Okay. No, you're not just like who is. Again the four nine this is all about Brady keeping them upright. Getting the run game going. I said in the first hour guys tremendous at third down pass pro. He is great at pass protection. He that's why he was. So Turnkey coming out of college ready to go. This is he's he's he's terrific added. In Rick. Stroud the Tampa Bay Times on last hour. You mentioned how Robert Jones missed a couple of past protections in. In practice recently. Let me ask you this question TJ Jefferson. How did Tony Romo break back. We know he broke his back once. With the preseason. Remember another time somebody came Scott free in. Yeah full-back missed the blocked any. Against at happened. Spinal. These things happen we do not need that when your quarterback is forty three and you've put every last bucket near egg in the TB twelve basket. Four hundred seventy six catches last year to. Like. I like it. I have is just right now right now and I gotTa Start Choosing who is my own Super Bowl? Team. On I'm going to do. Don't take a Labor Day weekend I think about it. Right now. The. Mold. Over. Be All, in otherwise I need to pump the brakes as they say. But no Zeke right nosy for the allison jeans. Don't rule him out. So good I know he's he's He's trying to trigger me. He knows how he's I know what he's doing. Is trying to trigger me I made a decision after last year. That just in Zeke could go and twenty touchdowns I'm totally cool. I'm just trying to get you know but you know you know last year I took Zeke and. He's one of those guys who whenever I saw him on the set of Thursday night football. You'd always talk Ohio state to me or he holds it against me to be in Michigan Wolverine on more than just that I know I, wear it on my sleeve on more than just that. So. He. grinds gears a little bit. The fact that I chose him. Yeah. Last year and I made a decision I'm going to choose people who makes me personally happy to have. I don't have it phantom in me. Choosing between. State and pence but Saquon man love for him it's Saquon. And that's why I told the MS yesterday. When he came on, he's got the third he's and we'll pick after his enjoy zeke. Let's take a break. A Glenn Howard of Bio will join us. It's on peacock starting to stream today. That's next on the rich Eisen show on peacock. 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Our one of the stars of vile along with very funny Patton oswalt very funny cast. On. This program. Did you take ap bio back in back in the died took I took AP CALC and AP history. Mike were you ever advanced placement yourself In television. Do any. Audio API. TV and I never had to do projects the teachers let me teach the other kids had to be thought. You were being facetious one hundred percent dead on. There's no such thing as advanced placement it was it was called. You didn't do projects like the it's you actually. taught people how to be was that the official? Education titles I can. Direct and mixed. The show for us is in college or high case going college I started in basically eleventh grade doing that never stopped I believe I believe that I was the best in the class of. Thank God. I was blessed to do one thing this advanced placement, a p divorce he eventually. I got I got a dog. Forget advanced placement. Doctor. Please Welcome back to the rich Eisen show everybody on NBC and. A fans of AP bio. We're thrilled to be on peacock. It's really given the show, a complete new lease and we're thrilled to be on an AP. Bio is now available on peacock. The third season that many fans thought would never happen after his canceled after two seasons on NBC the third season, of AP, bio premiers today right here on the streaming service on Peacock and here to celebrate that a little peacock festival. Here. On the rich Eisen Show Glenn Howard. Zinn how are you? Glenn? Hey. I'm good. Can you hear me I can hear you. Can you hear me Sir? Yeah I just you know technology these days most of the time when I tried to do something it just absolutely fails. I'm glad you can hear me well, I'm glad you can be hurting I'm glad you could be seen on peacock where we loved streaming service and And the fact that peacock exists so ap bio third season and hopefully many more congratulations on thanks man yeah. No, it makes me very happy I, our audience right from the beginning felt like more of streaming audience It's a slightly skews a little bit younger and You know the show the show was that was originally streaming on Hulu when it was doing really really well on Hulu much better on Hulu than it ever did on NBC. So yeah, I'm I'm excited that People are going to we're going to be able to give people a third season. It's great. It's the great season. So how close are you to the character you play on this on the show? Glenn, is there any at all? Grumpy, grumpy like him. Not Right now though I did not get grumpy Glenn Howard Tan and this phone call you're not you're not getting grumpy. Glenn. Howard. Glenn. Howard. Tan is usually right when I wake up and grumpy Glenn Howard. Zinn. Usually hits around two thirty in the afternoon after. That's when grumpy Glenn Howard is. That is worth. Okay. But that's that's your only comparison to the disgraced harvard philosophy scholar Jackson yeah, that's cut it. I mean I I'd say that you know. I think I I think I must probably have some narcissistic tendencies. In me up because I feel this overwhelming. Urge to play narcissistic characters and I feel like in some ways, it might be me. I don't know exercising my own my own demons or or something that that I'm afraid of. Like almost like I'm afraid of being narcissistic off to make fun of it. Well, there's one thing that you in your your character and me we have in common is I like wearing cartoons sometimes you know again, this shows just started launching on peacock and it launched in the middle. Of August, it's not appropriate to where it yet. But on occasion I will rocket Cardigan on. CAST. I'm the same way and now I feel like you know not I've got a closet full Cardigan and I feel like now I I'm not sure if I can wear them anymore because. Like, oh, he's just like his character I. So I kinda So it's it's a mixed bag I mean I like I like that I get to wear it as a character, but it's Kinda ruined it for me as a as a human being. You Got Glenn Howard here on the rich Eisen show Known for being a Dennis Reynolds and always sunny in Philadelphia Danny Devito on last week. What was it like working with him? advantage to the best man he he's just he's just great i? mean he really is. Not entirely unlike sort of the the personality that you expect him to be you know he's like a he's he's genuinely happy hollow by the way he's a little grumpy sometimes. Well I think we might have gotten him post trampoline that day he was in a good mood. Okay. Good. Good Post Trampoline and he's a trampoline. He trampolines funny. He mentioned that to me too and I I. I said You know that's great. It's supposedly it's really good for circulation. said. It gets your. I. Don't know what is it? You're you're you're glands it gets your glands moving. It's good for your immune system, right? Now I. Think this is turning into AP bio right now. Glenn where. I didn't expect it talk about glandular reaction to blood circulation, but it sounds like. Now, he's the best man. He's. He's an awesome. Awesome awesome guide. He's been very cool since the very beginning, I mean one of the coolest things he said to us because we were nobodies when the show started and when when he came on in the second season, he made it very clear to us from the very beginning it was like, I, I don't want to come in and I don't want to change the show. I. Don't want to become the leader. Of the show I don't WanNa take over I. Don't want to be the eight hundred pound gorilla on the show. He was like I just WanNa be a part of this cast just want. I. WanNa be a part of it. I don't expect to be bigger at you know what I mean and he may so right from the beginning he he just made it very clear. He's like it was almost like his humble way of saying I. Know I'm a massive massive star. But I don't want you to think that I think of myself that way you know what? I mean sure here Glenn Howard in here on the rich Eisen show and also your on Fargo right when a season of Fargo of several years ago was yeah. Yeah. I got to do the first season of Fargo Yeah that was really cool. So that was obviously affects show. And You, know the the. The president of facts are the the guy who runs a facts, John Landgraf He he you know I've known him for years at that point and You know he knew that that that my background wasn't really in comedy. My background was actually mostly in drama before I started doing sunny And he was like, yeah we should have you on one of our dramas one day I was like yeah. It'd be great and he just called me up one day and said, hey, we're doing fargo and Aussie my first reaction was okay. Well, that's one of my favorite movies of all time. I. Don't know if it's a good idea to make a show that but. you know but I was like, Hey, you guys are smart I. Don't think you would do it if it wasn't working. So you know and they sent me a couple of scripts and that just I mean it's domino holly the guy who who show runs that show and created the show version. his just like one of the best. Writers I've ever I've ever read. I mean the scripts were so good that I was almost worried that they weren't gonna be able to make the show that good. but Yeah. So I did I did like maybe half the episodes and the first season it was it was awesome. Yeah. We had a one of a friend of our program is Colin Hanks whose tremendous was nominated for his role Billy Bob's been here to it's just been amazing year. You've been in a ton of great stuff and the fact that a show that. appeared to be no longer gets revived on peacock is something that we can. You know appreciate and This is pretty cool man for the fans of the show helped save your program. This is a gift when these things happen and television it really is and I have to say like I'm I'm I'm super stoked that when I turn on peacock and I, look at the selection of things that they have it makes it almost makes me feel like I'm on an even cooler show then I I was because everything on there. So good I mean, it's such a it's a really strong service like I mean with so many services that are out there. It was just kind of like. Doing another service, and now we're just going to be on this other service and is anybody GonNa care. And I feel like they're kind of killing it over there I mean they they. They just got really cool stuff. So I feel like I'm in good company you are I mean the shows on it Glenn. Exactly. I and rich Eisen. So I'm happy to say You know this is kind of about us to. It's absolutely absolutely about you. There's also an eye and juilliard So how many fantasy football leagues are juilliard? acklin other other any juilliard fantasy football leagues that I'M UNAWARE OF You know you'd be surprised I. I will say you would be surprised at the number of I thought it was gonna go to acting school and everyone was going to be really artsy fartsy and you know super actor he and you know I mean I love all that stuff but but I'm also I. I don't know I'm into a lot of other things too and and I was surprised at how many sports fans there were just sports fans everywhere so Yeah, I mean I think you have a certain thing in their mind about the type of person that goes to juilliard but yeah, I found it to be. Fairly well, rounded Manganiello go to juilliard. Does it what you just said to me Chris. Brockman Joe Manganiello did juilliard is. No actually Joe I just did a movie with Joe Actually. Coming out in December I think There we go. Joe's Great I. Love that guy on Sue. Great. I don't know if you've heard his Schwarzenegger impersonation but it's an incredible i. said it does he just take shirt off or Is that a short snickering person or he actually sounds like army. No Yeah. He actually he actually sounds like he's one of those ones where he can do it too. But mine just sounds like you know a a bad. Characterization his he he really sounded exactly like. but but no joe, Joe actually went to Carnegie Mellon. Okay there another. Prestigious Institution of Yes of arts. Well, look man congrats on on the peacock third season It's hilarious show congratulations on that Patton oswalt funny. As they come Paula Pell I mean it's a gasman. So congratulations on all that I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for calling. We'll get you back on. Yes and I just tell her let everybody know that it premieres tonight deed could start streaming. Extreme seasons wanted to now. But I think the premier season three I think it's tonight. Maybe out shit. Might be already well as soon as as soon as this show's over in two thousand eight minutes, you can get off the NBC sports on Peacock standalone that this shows on every single day and then go check out the third season of AP bio that peacock made happen. How does right wait? Twenty eight minutes twenty right twenty, seven minutes now I appreciate that thanks for the call. Glenn. You take care brother. All right. Good talking to you Glenn Howard Tan ap bio premiers today. Picot. This. Great. We're peacock talking about what else is on P. Con. It's like a big asher painting by the way look it up. Thank you. S Your print. Painting and he's BAD IS A. TV DOT COM or download the APP go get it. It's great to see and it's free Oh. Sure. Thank. You J this side of the State of the studio and I never have much more high Falutin than that's i. mean you brought me in for a reason right? Honestly brains the guy who said that he Prior to come back on the NBC sports. Net. Feed why we were kind of chuckling. I asked Mike del Tufo what he was eight. What he took an AP said he took AP TV. And then I said, you were really AP divorce. He said he's got a doctorate in that Oh yeah. Your doctor divorce I am Dr Divorce I should have my own. I teach people what to do what to do DR divorce everybody. Yeah. He's in three on peacock streaming now starring Mike Del Tufo. Coming soon I mean the peacock, let's go back to the phones right here. Howard in Fort Lauderdale Florida. You're here in the rich Eisen show what's up Howard? Careful. Yes. Sir. I would prefer that because I think we're we're a touch delayed it gone. A never happen our what's up Hey how are you? I'm fine. I, think it's a Real problem. With what's going on with Wrigley. Field. I've been there many many many times doesn't matter what the location is. The main issue is. Compulsive gambling. And, what it can do to your life and I agree with the gentleman in quest. I haven't gambled in twenty years. But the damage I did before that. It's just I hoped was repairable and in the case of my children, it was in the case of my wife was not. It's just not something that should be involved in the in in sports. It just should not be evolve involved in legal gambling on sports with Pete rose. His deal was. He never put. himself. Starting, in eighty nine. To admit that he was a compulsive gambler. He never did a thing about changing himself. And in my opinion, the only way to change yourself. is to go into a twelve step program not a thirty. Day Rehab. That's nonsense. This is something you've been doing for years. and. I'm from south Florida I know Pete was living in Boca. Raton and he was seen at the race track all the time in the nineties. He. I don't think he's sorry for what he did. I really don't I I I kind of would take the same interpretation away to Howard. I. Really wouldn't I thank you for the call and I thank you for sharing. Welcome you bet, imagine against somebody like our wanting to go to Wrigley field and then. We don't think of that. You know we don't think that. Yeah. That's true. Is. Still hang out at the like memorabilia spot in Yeah Mandalay. Was it Mandala thought it used to be a Caesar's? One of those and the shops. He's always signing. I don't know I I. Don't know I mean I. Don't know anymore. But again, I mean if you're GONNA start, making deal if you're GONNA start having member clubs make straight up deals for like what nine figures is that what it is. I don't know for a significant amount of money like that and at one hundred, million dollars. That's. On the cubs. So that's what you're. GonNa do I mean. Maybe. It's time to just say Pete. You signed your assigned away and whatever. Rigid served. You served off I I honestly. You've served enough. because. There's enough fans that think he should be in the hall and just put his damn plaque. They're already and put it on the plaque. It's a museum put it on a plaque. Put It on the plaque. Him, all bonds and? You mentioned bonds and clemens these guys have never. I mean there's been a lot of man you know what? You can put the word suspicion especially. Yes. I don't know getting. Getting, it's a museum. Possible. Let's take a break Kevin Harvick's GonNa join. US Guy only leads an s cup circuit as it heads to. Playoffs on NBC `send this weekend. Do you own or rent your home you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home, go to GEICO DOT COM, get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GYCO. Easy visit GEICO DOT com today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM. We're back on peacock right now on the rich Eisen show eight, four, four, zero, four riches. The number to dial had some interesting conversations today with a lot of our fans who um when they call in make a ton of sense when they vote on our poll question involving movies and TV sometimes a little off. where. Does it stand right now Chris Charlie Sheen's fifty fifth birthday. What's the best thing is done right tune Wall Street major league two and a half men fifty three percent now say major league. Twenty percent two and a half men seventeen percent platoon ten percent was. My God. I, Love Major League as much as anybody else. Platoon in in Wall Street you gotta be kidding me. They're. Still troubles lamb we I think we even have a drop of Dennis Bird, when he came on our show I, think you're right. He does like we can do welcome back. Mike. Hold on. Hold on mikey complaint in one second. You're listening to the rich Eisen show. Very good. Charlie were dropped. Seventeen eighteen platoon he was young. What an incredible performance to I mean when incredible movie Willem Dafoe did willing to win an Oscar for you. Got The FO. Amazing John Sigma. GimMe won four Oscars. Put Johnny see was in a to johnny season every season. These right. So at one best picture I, mean director sound and film editing. Tom Barringer. Nominated going phone. was something else by the way? Tom Birger. Might have lost that Oscar buddies winning the rich Eisen show poll because imagine majorly cake Taylor. Sorry, for way. Hey, look you can't win them. All Oliver. Stone you won the Oscar for a tune but you're losing the what's the best thing? Charlie's Sheen's done poll question on the richeisenshow Umberto Golden Globe that year. Oh very good. Well. This man's winning a lot and he's joining us right here on the rich Eisen show as the NASCAR. Cup series playoffs kicks off if you will or I guess. Takes to the although at Darlington on the cook Sunday cookout southern five, hundred at Darlington raceway can be seen on NBC. At six PM. Eastern time on Sunday five pm for the coverage to begin seven wins the second most in his career one, eight and twenty eighteen. He's won three of the last seven races. He's Kevin Harvick here on the rich Eisen show how are you Kevin? I'm doing great guys. Thanks for having me. I'm fine of thanks for thanks for being on your. I apologize actually though Kevin because I I wouldn't have done that to a major league baseball player, which is talks about wins and stats and just did that with you. Are you superstitious like that that I just do the wrong thing by talking about the wins that you've amassed so far this year not at all look I when I got into the sport when I took over for Dale back. In two thousand and one Richard childress was the most superstitious guy that you've ever met in your whole life. It was fifty dollar bills. It was green race cars. It was peanut shells and in two thousand and six we won in a car that had peanuts all over it and I'm like there is no reason to be superstitious anymore just go do your job in can be done with it. What do you mean by peanuts fifty dollar bills, Kevin Walk me through what this? What do you mean? Yes. So Dale earnhardt thought that fifty dollar bills were bad luck. So he would not carry in his wallet and Richard Childress the car for Dale and and who was my car as well when I started he would not carry a fifty dollar bill as well. So I I I you know he's a team owner. So I bought into the into the fifty dollar bill okay and and apparently he nutshells broken peanut shells were bad luck as well. So if they were on the shop floor You're in you're in big trouble. it was Those were the two things that I learned really quick that I just needed to get over and and usually fast cars make up a four foot things going back. But I'm sure you can't look at a fifty dollar bill same way anymore pretty much i. I. Honestly. I, don't see many fifty dollar bills because you know I, just I don't use cast very much anymore But but when I when I do see a fifty dollar bill I will not put it in my wallet to This Day just because just just in case. So does that mean we might see on the hood of a car of yours very soon like the the Venlo. Anytime. I can flash my apple pay or. It could at at at the machine I'm always. Kevin Harvick here on the rich Eisen show to what Du of the win success that you've had in recent days and years Kevin. So I think when you look at two thousand and twenty, it's it's just an it's an odd year. You know obviously we all understand the circumstances that we're in from from the covid standpoint and you know I think for for us it's Really, kind of played into our hands this year a little bit just because of the experience that we have is a group my crew chief and engineers an organization. We've all been together going on seven years now, and we know each other and have a whole lot of confidence in each other as to what what each other is doing whether it's me in the car or. My crew chief, Rodney Children's up on the pit box and making the calls, and for the Engineering Staff putting the setups underneath the car it. It was just a a group of guys that have been together for a long time and you know we've been fortunate to capitalize on fast race cars that they bring to the race track with no practice and no qualifying and and take him to victory and seven times this year. So it's been it's been a great season and and it's been a great relationship over over the last seven years and continues to evolve. You've already wanted. Darlington this year. Kevin. What do you like about the track? It's you know it's one of our most historic race tracks. Darlington's been around for sixty some years and and I think you as you look at Darlington, it's built around upon. So it has really weird. Corner on one end because they couldn't they they could move the pond. So they had to make one in very narrow and the other ends a lot lot more wide open as far as the radius of the corner and it's the narrowest racetrack that we go to. So it's just a it's an oddball shape racetrack that we go to. has a very high tyre wear You know that that goes with that. So from the driver standpoint is very challenging because it's narrow and the car drives different every lap because of the the fall off in lat time that that you get with the tire. Kevin Harvick here on the rich Eisen show. So you're the top seed in these playoffs. Does that change the way that you race I mean how does seating? I guess factor into. how you're going to operate over the next. Races. So basically what's happened through our first twenty six races you accumulate points that that go towards the postseason. So if you WANNA race, you get five plow points. If you win a stage, the race, you get one playoff point and those accumulate through the regular season to give incentive to guys throughout the year to try to win races and do the things that it takes to accumulate points. Now, I get to carry those points into the last ten weeks of the playoffs, and hopefully we don't have to fall back on those points, but you never know because things tend to get a little bit crazy with the three races eliminate four cars and three more races and eliminate four cars so. Hopefully we can use those bonus points. Playoff points that we've accumulated through the year you know to to be on our side and make it to the championship race in Phoenix and what a what a year man I mean. Again, that's just the wins, the number of wins, but sometimes the manner in which acquired them. At Michigan. You won both races on a Saturday and Sunday the last driver. To Win Nascar Cup series races on consecutive days was Richard Petty Nineteen seventy-one Kevin I mean, that is ridiculous. Stat. Now are part of, did you ever think that you'd ever have stat like that associated with? Well you know we we've done so many things this year that are so out of character from from what we would try to do as a sport right and you know racing races back back like you know they did in the seventies and sixties and fifties, and and you know the things that we've been able to do this year. But time that you have your any any type of staff that. Is Compared to Richard Petty and Richard Petty alone. You know that things are going. Okay. So it's been It's been a great year, but it's also been also been a you know just a little bit of a you know trying year in a sense that you know you don't. You don't let us around our pit crew guys and you can't share those wins with the guys that are in their. Battling with you every week and and trying to you know be a part of something that that you can't be a part of because of the fact that that we can't be near each other because of covid. So it's been it's been a strange strange. It's been very successful obviously that helps take a little bit of the the awkwardness away from you know everything that that Cova has. Brought but you know in the end where we're able to do our job and and we can't celebrate together. But someday, we'll look back on this and talk about you know everything that we're able to do in thousand and twenty in the way that it changed Nascar I heard your son Keelan right is now at made a go cart debut. Was that a true story at age seven recently Yeah. He did. All right. So he So Cova does not only changed the way that we race, but it's changed everything that that we do and our personal life as well. you know at the beginning of the year we were. We were not doing anything like that and he came to me one day and he said that let's go race carts and I'm like, okay. Well, let's go race cars because we don't have anything else to do right now. So let's let's figure out how we can do that in in our own little bubble and and try to and and try to do that. So he has raced in. The middle of April At least two or three times a month and and that's kind of our our family activity and school is is done in front of a computer. In a room at home and and so it's it's it's. You. Know it's changed everything but I feel like we've we've adapted you know well, and and hopefully we can sleep and keep adapting and this whole Nestle goal I soon is it true that he refuses to race with half dollar coins in his pocket Kevin is that is that true? and. He hasn't caught onto the whole. Thing. Leaving every week, maybe we can steer clear of that and we cannot corrupt his mind. We should leave it that way Utah You sir, are I think you are about to turn forty five or you are forty five years old? You're about to turn forty five in December and Jimmy. Johnson. As we know is that age and is no longer planning to. gracie's retiring or he's going to race, but he's retiring. What about you? What about you? With your your career, how you've unit Long-haul so you know look here's here's the deal. So I don't have to throw a ball a long ways and I don't have to run very fast and and you know I have to keep up with with the things that you know I do from a physical standpoint to you know to stay in shape and do the things that I need to do and stay in the car but they just they aren't to the magnitude of of what you need to be a good nfl player or major league player or anything like that, and and so in our sport. experience you know plays a huge factor in in the things that we do on a week to week basis. So as we go through the seasons and and for me I tell everybody on the late bloomer I've been fortunate to find success with Stewart Haas. Racing over the last seven years and let's face it winning fun. I enjoy being competitive and there's there's nothing that beats winning and you know I think as I look at that and I look at the Group of guys that I get to go in there and try to avoid that week in and week out. It's just fun my family's supportive and and things are going well and we're gonNA keep doing it is as long as as long as I'm having fun and we can we can maintain a good personal life at home so. Right now you know we're we're signed up through the end of twenty, twenty three and we're gonNA keep racing hard and having a good time doing it, and in meantime your your son just keeps getting pole positions and on go kart racing it's all good in the hood for the Harvard Family I. Right amazing. Thanks for the call Kevin Good luck this weekend on NBC. Am Eastern time on Sunday with the cookout southern five hundred at Darlington and and good luck beyond that to. All right. Thanks for having me. You got it. That's Kevin Harvick on the rich Eisen show that was a lot of fun. It's great having somebody who's at the top of his game and it's great to have somebody who is. A favourite to win playoffs it's about to begin on a partner of your show and one of the main reasons why we do this. So you know as we love to be current, we looked to pivot as they say. we like to be current. And now that Kevin, Harvick has been on the show. If he wins, we can take credit for it. That's how we handle our business on the rich Eisen show right smarter not harder. Thank you very much. You should put that on your greaseboard. Tomorrow. Although I just realized that says you don't make that call on an MVP, that's your way. That's your. That's your take on the honest foul Yes. You paid the cost to be the boss snoops it so shouldn't get that call. Okay. Tomorrow, you know what I'd like. To, have you do on this program because I'm about to leave here to go up to the NFL Network Studios Once passed through all the protocols that they placed there by the way. Are you GonNa? These protocols to no no, no no, I'm just. I I don't know if anybody even at the first time back for you. During? No, since they've set up protocols. Yes. Yeah. I mean last time I was there I think was the Wednesday of free agency. When light because I did everything else from home from the draft, right? Oh you know last day of free agency which was particularly frenzied. Because you know the Free Agency Frenzy Oh? Yeah. I'm going to go host with Michael Irvin the top ten cowboys of all time topping the list because the cowboys celebrating their sixtieth anniversary this year, there's a top sixty cowboys of all time list that has been created by. I guess riders, reporters, and people note. And I would like you to write down who you think the top ten cowboys of our of all time and then on Sunday when it's revealed at six eastern, we'll see how right you are. That'd be my posits out. Just know this you have to have at least four years of service in Dallas. So we confront road Lee angry tweet from Tara Tara loans while he's not on the list. Okay. Damn Act together I just know that on rich. So that'll be tomorrow we can do that tomorrow. The great idea. We'll do we'll see how it. We'll see how accurate you are just to be clear. Who I are the top ten greatest sort of my favorites just. Every list has this whole thing because the ten greatest won't mean there's always like top ten greatest. All because. Then like Dat win. Wondering. Wondering Jason Garrett, is available as a quarterback, not a coach. Had eight years of service though I know that's available as a quarterback. Okay. Thank. You I'm on example emmitt Smith should be number one. There you go. Done. By del Tufo. K.. G. Mike you really stretched on that. I'm just saying, here's an example you in. The top five can neither confirm or deny. Thanks to Matt, Patricia Terrell Davis Rick Stroud Glenn Howard and Kevin Harvick John Leguizamo. We'll be on tomorrow's program on the rich. Eisen. Show it'll be a great Friday show. You should join us we'll see you then on the quad cast. covid nineteen spreading rampantly throughout the world almost one million deaths african-americans hit harder than others double whammy. I'm Jay Jay Green. I'm black I'm Chris. I'm white join us on colors are new podcast is Dr Anthony. FAUCI gives us some straight talk about race risks and vaccines on colors. Episode twelve subscribe to colors on Apple's spotify podcast one or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Hour 3 - Bob Uecker (06-26-20)

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Hour 3 - Bob Uecker (06-26-20)

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Do Their home games coming up and when you when you think of Bob Euchre well. He was an average baseball player. And I think he actually got traded because he was a good personality. Not a good baseball player I think he was traded to the cardinals because he was considered a guy who was a good clubhouse guy. And you know He. He was below the Mendoza. It should have been the EUCHRE line like. I think. He was right at the Mendoza line and even two hundred for his career, so he was Mendoza before Mendoza. And But he parlayed this into. He was on late night with Johnny Carson. And he was just so funny because he made fun of himself. Self, deprecating and Carson just let him go and loved him. Then the Miller lite commercial he was on that, and then he was in the major league movies as the announcer. A household name and but he was also the brewers broadcaster. and. He just he has that great ability to tell a story and have fun. So I thought it would be great to send you in to the weekend. At least thinking of some positive things, some fun things about Major League Baseball so bob will join US coming up in a little bit eight seven seven three DP show email address tps Dan Patrick dot com. Spent a lot of time on some different things including the decision, the back story with Lebron James and the decision. We're coming up on ten years ago. Imagine that each twenty-five Lebron. Had the power to be able to say ESPN I. Want an hour to make my decision of where I'm going to go now. That was the first mistake. was you needed an hour to do that? Because Jim Gray had to ask twenty three questions. Before. He got the answer of where Lebron was going. I mean it was poorly produced, but the power of that and that kind of opened the door I think for some of these athletes to be able to go. You know we can kind of control the story. Derek cheater with the players. Tribune just had a lotta these but tiger woods controls. You know his press releases, but That was a fascinating story at the time and Don van Natta by all accounts is done a really good job on the decision. That'll be Sunday night on ESPN. Then I ask him. What's what's the next thing you're working on? He goes well. We're. Pretty deep into the detail story I went. Oh all right. I'm interested in that. So Anti Tale Played Notre Dame and got catfish I never I never knew the term catfish until mantle tail. And? He got catfish because this great story heart warming story it was you know right out of a Hollywood movie? got a girlfriend. She's in a car accident. She's got leukemia. She has her phone on her hospital room. Mantar tail has his phone on, and he falls asleep and they talk to each other. And then we find out that he didn't have then his girlfriend died, and this is while Notre. Dame is playing for a national title with Alabama. So that will be an interesting one with the. backstory with Don van. NATTA, but will they get. To cooperate. Because the decision Lebron James is not in the decision and Jim Gray, who hosted is not in that. Story as well, yeah, Paulie. If you're anti Tayo and ESPN said nine. We'll do this. We'll do a thirty for thirty around it. Would you participate not? It's kind of in your ear now. The. No gotTa move on now upside. No, no, no. No. Yes todd. What if meant I tell it says I don't believe ESPN I'm not gonNA. Get Catfish again. You're not really doing a documentary on me, so I'm not going to. Do well. That's not even that might be a little bit of a stretch their. Bob Euchre's career average was actually one nine, nine seven, so we have to round up to get to two hundred there so. We'll give him that. COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS HERE FILLING INDIANA. Fill you for moon. Dan It's always a pleasure. Your First Class Guy I wanted to comment on mant Te'o. The I lived in south. Bend at the time, the hot story there was that he'd found out the night of the heisman trophy presentation, which he came in second, and then he still when they interviewed him during that night, even though he had found out, he was catfish, t still commented on his deceased girlfriend so I just another `nother goofy twist but I just thought I'd bring it up all right well. Thank you Phil. I did not know that. It felt like. In and maybe he's acknowledged as polly that man. Continue the hoax. The in his interview. I, think it was. Oprah did another interview. He apologized for not clearing it up when he knew which was late November he knew that this. He's been played in and. I think that he just kept going, and he tried to downplay and talk about it in. Yeah, but deadspin had the expose on this and I reading an to read it again because I thought. Wait, what are they saying? None of this is true. is any of this true? He's true I. Don't know if anybody else is true here. We also talked about Vince Carter and his career and his impact on the career. I guess. There was discussion. In the sports world yesterday Vince Carter not a hall of Famer and I went. Unless it's another sport we're talking about. Of course. He's basketball hall of fame, but We're talking about best dunks. Is The dunk over Frederick Vice? The best dunk ever. I mean it is in game. It's in the Olympics. mclovin but the Olympics is not the same as NBA game. It's still in game, dunk. It's in the top ten house that he jumped over a seven footer. I think it's number one. Is High with a crater the cradle. Dunk by Dr. J. Over Cooper. Felt bad for coup. Because that's when you you know, you have good intentions, I'm going to go after this. And then all of a sudden, you could see coop just kind of. Out of the way, because doc was going to cradle, and then he. Was An awesome sunk. Ivory take something away from the Tom Chambers dog. Because you know if you ever jumped off a wall dunk, he was using Jackson as Legros. No I know I know, but he's still put his foot in Mark Jackson Sternum and then dunk donning. Brenton Texas joins just hi Brentwood he have for me today. Best Dunk of all time nominee. Ninety two Western, conference finals for your Sonics the one known as the lister blister where Shawn Kemp. The top of the key in Seattle dunks over former. Sonic Alton lister than as the double pointed him before heading back down the floor. Love you guys, thank you, bye! Yeah! That was harsh Shawn Kemp. God Shawn Kemp had a lot of town. He. He could have been great. Great NBA NBA player. Association announced the COVID. Nineteen test results if you've been waiting for those. In tests conducted of three hundred and two NBA players on June. Twenty third sixteen players have tested positive. That's that's all we know so sixteen of tested positive out of three hundred into. They'll. I'm not good at math is at five percent. Does that sound bad or I don't know? Who is tested positive is more interesting than how many tests positive. You know star players and who they've been around practicing with. Yes, mclovin! The Satish Nate Silver said that the positive test rate is usually about seven percent now so. But, so five percents in range kind of. What's going on out there? Jonathan in Florida he Jonathan. What do you have for me today? Would it be gentle. A happy meet Friday use the nets got a couple other good dunks I still think Vince Carter wants the best in Game I've seen just because it was on a world stage or just the setting. I think that was just crazy, but Another good one is Scottie Pippen over Patrick Ewing Ninety four playoffs. I believe that's probably the most. Clever teams yeah to the floor and then tell spike Lee to sit down. And then another another good wanNA sneaky one is Davis or Dre Chiro Minka and twenty two thousand seven playoffs. Just 'cause the crowd of you're just gone crazy after that and Andre Caroline Linko AK47 was supposed to be He was a great defensive player. Thanks for the phone call Jonathan. He's always up there and blocks like he was. He was a good defender, didn't he? Get the whole pants from his wife wasn't. Memory that you remember it. It's like nine years ago. It's Eh. Didn't he get a one? At one time only or a yearly hall pass from his wife. They still married. TJ In Colorado Tj, how are you? Good morning data morning time long time so I have one question or a two questions about the Kobe nineteen deal one. How big that Astra is going to be if Lebron test positive the week of the finals. And to would it be bigger deal if brady tested positive, assuming made it to the Super Bowl? I can't go that deep. Come on TJ of Friday a made it to Friday. We gotta think positive. And the deeper you go into the playoffs in NBA The less likely. I think that you're GONNA test positive. Anybody, who wins the title given? What is going on now? You earned it. I care who wins baseball you earn. College football urine football nfl you earn. NBA You earn. Absolutely. I think that's coming up. That's going to be the most of the most surreal videos of the year. Whoever wins the NBA title? They're going to celebrate and go nuts. It's one of the biggest days of their life in front of forty or fifty people in a half size Jim, in Orlando, Florida on Disney's campus and I don't care what sound they put in what they do to doctor it up. It's going to feel like when a team celebrates the summer. League in the NBA Times Twenty. because. They're going to go crazy I'm. A shoot confetti in the air, but you don't have people celebrate the NBA finals and the media Russia's. Going crazy. It'll be the exact opposite of that, but you're going to get these cities celebrating right, but not the moment a lot of although i. don't I mean you're not gonNa have social distancing when it comes to celebrate, it'll be in mass downtown wherever I remember being at staples when I was at the mothership and The Lakers won the title. and. We went into our broadcast truck. and. People were pushing the broadcast truck. And one of the people in their said show your face. and. Like I! It didn't register like I you, know they? They were burning a police car and so. One of the people in there I don't mentioning any names, but said to show your face. And I I stepped out of there are truck our TV truck. And they saw that it was me they for some reason, and then I just said Hey, guys stopped though, and and they did. But I we were worried that this. They try to chip over the TV truck. And so. When? Somebody says show your face I know. Do you want me to go down on. Oh Okay my bad. Don't worry about it, 'cause. You know we leave the building. Get in the truck because it's. It's getting crazy out there. And I was like Oh boy. This isn't how I want to go. Josh in Indiana. Hi Josh Woody today. Hey Dan. How's it going? happy me Friday. Thank you Josh. Hey I just wanted to let you know. co-worker, Mars and and union brother of ours is retiring today and I just wanted to give give a shout out to I'm GONNA CHECK IN I. Don't know if it's. import correct, but I'm GONNA say six foot two hundred pounds for From State Monitored Indiana he's He's retiring today and I know it helped a lot of us out I've worked with them personally for six years and I believe he's worked with us for twenty seven years and I mean a lot for everything. He's helped us out with, and I know he's a he's having listener to you guys, and and I think he wanted to call. I suggested for to call today, but he said he didn't think the chat room, but let them through so. All right, we'll Joshua, good coworker, Terry, congratulations, and good luck and retirement. They're. Jake in Wisconsin is back well. You gotTA. You GotTa Bob Euchre story for me. I've got a of those stories for him, but. One of my favorite things while working at the stadium, you always call your kid. Kids go over album out. Do whatever you needed, but the to the dude has so much poll and respected the stadium. He drives his corvette in parks. It literally in the side the stadium you parts it. All the way into the warehouse walks right into the city like the dude walks around like royalty man. He's earned it. All absolutely he's got a statue outside the stadium for crying out. But one of the nicest guys I'm super calm, you gotta mind and they can't wait to get on laugh at your advantage. Appreciate, thank you, Jake great to hear from you. I saw this with the bubble in Orlando. Local state and federal law enforcement plus former special ops. Forces will be employed to secure the bubble site and keep NBA personnel safe from any intruders. K.! Not GonNa let anybody off campus and not GonNa let anybody in teams are expected to begin arriving to the Florida complex on or around July seventh will go to Anthony and Ohio. Then we'll take a break and make way for Bob Euchre hey anthony. Hey DP, tough to tough to open up for Bob Euchre, but I'll do that. I suck at row. And then I had a dunk sawyer was won't shake was with the Lakers, and he dumped on Chris Dudley so bad deadly with all of them. Think he he not Dudley over right. Yeah, he didn't. Dudley I mean shoplifted his legs up and the whole. Hang on the RIM, saying and got some embarrassing within the ball out them and getting beat up Thank you, Anthony when Chris Dudley politician. When he a politician somewhere with all right? Yeah, but I I thought he held an office. Maybe one of the worst free throw shooters NBA history. What expect from a yearly? Wow! Dartmouth Trash, trash-talk right. Yeah, man, you're! You're crushing him. Now I think. I think Chris Dudley. He's listed as retired basketball, player and politician. I don't know. What do you have to be in office to be a politician? Can you call yourself politician if you're between gigs? What if you run for office, but don't win? Are you a politician at the well? This says that he ran for governor of Oregon. But? Did he get elect now won the primary, though it looks like yeah, but okay. What constitutes being a politician? If you get drafted in the NBA and the team doesn't sign you. Can you say you're a professional basketball player? That's what saying you gotta get a cheque. Right at one check one check. You gotta get something that says to the like the governor of Oregon sworn in. Even if you're ousted from office, not nothing like that would be Chris. Dudley, but if he was would have been governor Chris Dudley. He was like a forty one percent thrasher think. You did nice out of Mary's the nicest guy in sports. I can't believe he was a politician. Chris donelly. He had he had a good run. Who would've thought we'd talked about Chris Dudley today when you rather be journeyman. NBA Senator or governor foregin I'd rather be a journeyman Senate. How Governor Four? No. I don't want to be a governor. You definitely add one your fantasy teams. I could tell no. I did not have Kristalina my fantasy to like rebounding guy. I remember yeah. But. He would kill you in every other category Yep. We're huge in Oregon I think you could run him. Probably win if you chose to. What a great state to be a governor! I know it's. It's it's, a thankless job. Yes yeah, you don't want any part of that. In the right State Montana No. No I don't. I don't know I. I can't not good. What about like Senate. No no I, mean some of the jobs sound easy. Sounds like you've just cashing checks time these kids. Want to be a politician. Like, somebody asked me if I wanted to open a sports bar and I go why. Way Yeah can't wait to get sued. Doesn't when you put your name on a bar. Doesn't it scream? Oh, now who to sue. At this guys, you should open up a sports Parnell, why so I can go in and talk sports. He goes on ago. I do it every day. You can host your own Trivia night. Welcome to Dan Patrick's I'm Dan Patrick Wednesday Trivia for you? GotTa get way to Talk Sports with drunk. Guys come on and sent wing night. Come on, man, I'm on. All, right, let me take a break Bob. Bucur set to join us. Coming up. Think that burgers ready to come off Traeger Grill I. Think, but we gotta wait twenty minutes after Euchre. Then we can have the burgers. We'll take a break back after this on the Dan, Patrick Show, thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday morning nine to noon, eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio Find Your local station for the Dan Patrick Show at Fox Fox Sports Radio DOT, com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching. F S are because I don't want to be stuck, wearing my old outdated glasses because I want to wake up and just be able to see because enough is enough at the center. We've heard it all all the reasons why it's time for Lasik over the past thirty years. The eye center has helped tens of thousands of people. People realize the Freedom Lacy provides now is the time for lace with twenty percents off for a limited time with one of northern Virginia's leading surgeons plus get an additional eight hundred dollars off. When you schedule within thirty days, register for your savings and schedule your free consultation now at the center dot Com. Some restrictions apply you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. 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No pressure on you, other than I wanted to have some fun with baseball in there hasn't been anything fun with baseball's of late so. How are you doing? How's your morale? I'm doing okay. I'm glad we're going back to work and It'll be my sixty fifth year over all in baseball. You know as a player if you want to say that, and and of course calling the games here in Milwaukee, I worked a couple of. I worked a couple of seasons with the braves with Milo Hamilton and Ernie Johnson before bud brought me back to. Brought me back to Milwaukee, but other than that. I'm the hanging around and I'm waiting to go back to work. I. Just saw where your official batting average in your career was one ninety, nine seven. I you know that I couldn't. SPONSORS WOULD BE UPSET. If, they dropped below two hundred Because at that time and tide me with another sports, great, averaging, two hundred or better for a ten year period, and that was all the same Bowler Don Carson. Blow that off, but but we're you the Mendoza line before the Mendoza Line Bob well. Yeah, but she's got a job in baseball now. I think she works for the mets doesn't see. That's. That's a different Mendoza. Okay. Tell me if this is right. Did you get traded? Did your baseball career get extended because you were a good clubhouse sky? Oh Yeah I. Got To be done. I mean for a couple of extra bucks a month. I was making I was making below the minimum. You know that And and selling other players equipment got a couple of bucks doing laundry. There's a lot of things that you can do without playing I actually thought it was an infringement when they asked me to play a game. But I thought you got traded to the cardinals because you were going to back up carver and you might have had a better arm, but they liked your personality. And and. I think arm wise. I had one on each side which was. But yeah to back up to me. You remained a great friend and Of course you know, we went to world series that year, when I got traded to Saint, Louis and I'm not. I'M NOT GONNA. SAY ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T WIN ONE BE. What I. Something had to be working right when you. Were when you were I. Went went on on Carson first time. You're on there where you still playing baseball. No I was I was done and as a matter of fact. The first show I did with Johnny was in New York. They had to move to the West Coast you. Think it was in nineteen, seventy, maybe sixty, nine or seventy. How'd you end up on the show? I I had been friends with a great trumper, one of the legendary trumpeter of all time Albert. And I did a couple of jobs with him. I was traveling Alex Karras. Was a guy that I work with? He was there because he's a great. Player I was I was the wind up speaker, but I did a couple of jobs in the down hurt, and he told me it was going to be on the tonight show and I said Oh. Yeah, sure well I. got a call from the tonight. Show about two weeks later. I went to New York I had a I had auditioned with a talent guy and he went in his office and he said what do you do? I said nothing I'm. Still see some of your stuff or let me hear what you're going to talk about. Saw did a couple of things. He told me we'll call you back. Two weeks later. They called me back to New York and I did the show Johnny. And I remember the one thing that was funny about it. Dan was at the end of the show when you know saying good night and everything. I heard Donnie. Saito had after we good nights did that guy really play baseball? I think so. I went back two weeks later and. Did another one and then I. Got To be kind of a pretty regular with with Johnny we had a great relationship, and I I still do with doc. Severinsen and A lot of the guys in the band. I I would go over and do a tonight show. When we were playing in Anaheim when the brewers were playing in Anaheim. I would go over and do it tonight. Show and then come back I'd get back maybe in the third inning. And some of the guys would come up and sit in a booth at the Ballpark, so it was I I had a great time with tonight shows all the time. How did that Change Your Life? well, it raised my salary by two hundred and twenty dollars a month. that was a big thing. I had a pension. You know the screen actors guild so I wasn't worried about baseball anymore, Did you know I stuck around baseball six years I? Guess had a great time doing it. May great you know really great friendships and putting yourself. And your crew there but. all of those you know. If I ever had a good year, really screwed me up later. Couple Times got off to good starts. I had to go in the tank. Well yeah, nobody, there's nothing funny about getting off to a good start. You know like batting. Two twenty five is not funny, but one ninety seven. That's funny exactly exactly and you know sitting in the other team that dugout. Not always all that pleasant, but it was still the game. wearing a load uniform at home. But Carson. Introduced you untie when you think of great baseball players, a lot of names come to mind Bob Euchre's not one of them right. And he called YOU MR, baseball. Yeah and that kind of stuck around he. He I I have a great picture at home. You're the elston Howard and Roger Marris in New York and and Mickey's all Johnny and Heath. He's got. You gotta a Yankee uniform on and it. It looks awful on him. The ways wearing it the socks. Are you know down on the ground? But he's with them. When he had a glove on I think he tried to throw batting practice. To those guys at Yankee, Stadium Really Yeah Oh yeah. He He. He, he was a great guy to to work with. Dan, and I like I said before. I always had a great time with he treated me. I never got. Bumped off the show you know I always stayed on and somebody else got bumped But we had A. we had a good relationship. The fact I went out to The University of Nebraska he built a, he built a studio and A. Really Nice out there for you know people who want to get involved and movies television whatever it may be and I went out there as part of the opening with that with our without owner Mark Attanasio. It was a matter of fact and had a great time. They did a lot of shows you. Tonight shows that Johnny I. I could break his chops man. I make him laugh. I just saw on I just sent me one of me, and it was a picture of me and Bob Gibson holding hands I love that picture. So that's, that's the team picture. So Gibson was in on the joke. The team picture with the hall of fame. Pitcher, you're. You're holding hands with Bob Gibson. Who seemed like a very serious guy? He was. Really good the great friend as a guy getting ready to shoot to shoot the photos, I just reached over and grabbed his hand, and we both started. Was Really Good I love it. We're talking to Bob Euchre his fiftieth year with a the brewers and people should know like you did have some legitimate moments there. You homered off Sandy Colfax. I mean that's that's real at Dodger Stadium Right? Yeah, but I you know every time I see him apologize. Keep my whole family was really worried about that? Is that why Sandy doesn't do? Interviews is because he gave up the home run to you. That's part. That's part of it. Yeah, I don't know why. I hit him fairly well. I really don't Maybe was. Probably five thirty. Well you didn't want those shadows if Colfax was on the mound. That'd be troubled, did you? Did you have to audition for the role of Harry, Doyle and majorly? No you know I was doing a game in Chicago against the White Sox with the brewers and. and a security guy came in and said there's two guys outside WanNa. Talk to you so when I got off for my innings off. I went out in the Hallway Comiskey. Park And Chris. And David Ward were there and they had the script for the movie and asked me if I would consider it. So I'll look at it which I was going to do it anyway whether it was good or bad. but I looked at it and read it and they told me Oh. You do whatever you want. You do the script do year stuff. Do whatever you want. And I, did and I had a good time. You know I met a lot of good people and the movie did good and Major League, two major. Major League three was on airplanes adapt. We've finished. Those terrible yeah, did you know at the time when you did the first Major League? That was going to be good? you know it had some really funny stuff in it in watching I met Sally seen the first night. The bruins came back from a road trip and the ready set up county stadium for the movie and. They would ask me if I go in and say hello to Charlie and you wanted to say alone, and so I went and his trailer and talked to him for a while, and then when I watched even throw, I mean he threw pretty good. He really. And watching Tom Barringer work behind the plate and Steve Ager deserve a lot of credit for that, too, because he really worked with with Tom, but you know the the script was kind of funny I didn't use any big time. Curse words I was kind of. shocked when I heard the first one, but other than that. You know they kind of let me do what I wanted I. I did their stuff and then they. They made the picks. Yeah. Great stuff in there. Just just a bit outside was a natural man. I mean you know. I'm doing a radio game. You're looking at a movie, but you know when you're on Radio Dan. You can do anything you want. Nobody can see it. Were you ever of a beer. Guy On the air like Harry Carey wants. no, not really I was in to. Jack. The team was it depended on how bad the team was that year what you were drinking? The team was here. Put a lot of times. I was still doing the game. But I remember listening to Joe Nuxhall and Joe Nuxhall, you know. God rest his soul. He always say the left hander rounding third heading for home. He spilled beer on his scorecard one night when I was listening to him and Marty Brennaman, and it was just so funny because we don't. We're listening on the radio and Joe Spills it. He's not. He's not describing what he just did. And you just hear him. He's mad. Marty Brennaman trying to call the game, and then they eventually got around to Joe had spilled his beer on his scorecard there. Were there. They were great team. Dan, I, you know what his name for me was blassie remember remember blast lance. Oh my dad drank flats. Yeah I called him black. I never thought. Great friend who man what a guy. Team. Great. Team I'M GONNA. Miss Marty this year. Yeah Hall of Famer. On a serious note You know this this virus here, Bob. How concerned. HOW CONCERNED ARE! Well I am I. You know I feel bad Dan for all the people that got furloughed I don't care if it's baseball or anything else People that I've worked around here at the BALLPARK growth for a lot of years and and got furloughed and I. You know I got furloughed when I was in the army that was that was about it for me and. I was on our side to want that. But. I had when I when I see what's happening. We're going back to work. very limited basis My Partner Jeff levering and Lane Grendel will be totally separated. We all be separated by a big piece of plexiglass in the booth. And you know what our booth looks like in Milwaukee so. And the engineer we'll be separated from us It's I have to go in a whole. There's a whole different set of rules. To do this stuff you know you got to be tested every other day I. Guess Matter of fact I'm going to get tested tonight. my wife and I and and our our trainer. Roger Capping is going to do that. but You know I get I, get a second look a lot of times because I I go into a store once in a while and I'm I'm wearing my catcher's mask. I don't know if that's approved by the CDC there. Well, it's it. It saves the pain from punch because they're. Living, that saw me place. Take. Do you think you would done steroids if they were around. I maybe. I don't think so I don't think so suppositories May. Not Steroid. Does your wife. Do People. Get straight answers out of you. Sometimes. Okay. That's what I figured. You'd never been arrested. I. Really yeah got to the game. Well it'd be great to have you back and thanks for just a smile on people's faces today. You great to talk to solve. All your gang there and thanks to you. Thank you, Buddy. That's BOB EUCHRE MR baseball there. I love that he homered off Sandy. Koufax and he apologized to me. He's eighty six years of age. So got his fastball. That's good. But it was a big deal when he was you can. You can google this Bob Euchre. On the tonight show. and. It's a U. E. C. K. E. R.. In case. You haven't problem spelling that but. Just he goes out there and Johnny Carson was A. You know you look at Letterman and. All these other guys Leno. Carson was a big deal and to be on on The biggest TV show in America and he went out and killed. He slayed. I. We'll take a break last. Call for phone calls what we learn. What's in store? Marl and if you're watching on youtubecom by the way Marvin. Who answers our phones among other things? He does made his YouTube debut. He gave his stat of the day roaring success. Yeah, yeah, well, it's either rooting for him or Ormeau Areo and chat rove course hates areo, but Marvin Marvin made his debut, so he He had a stat of the day email that brought to your attention. If you're watching on Youtube. which you see, we're taking off the trigger. That's coming up next. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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TechFan Episode 404 - Blockbusters of 1986

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TechFan Episode 404 - Blockbusters of 1986

"You're listening to another great podcast in the my neck podcast network on your egos writing checks. Your body can't cash you've been busted. You lost your qualifications of section leader three times put in hacked twice by by me but the history of high speed passes over five air control towers and one apples daughter it is technically podcast number four four and this is going to be a little bit of a shorter episode. <hes> David Coen's owns here with either. That's not the problem. The Problem David is I've got a wake my wife and sunup really soon because he goes to camp for a week and <hes> the we can't be late for that not an important part of the summer ritual the kids people <hes> Alex on this campaign about about month so we've got because Chicago and Max talk in a couple of weeks and then a couple of weeks off. He's going fun yeah. I never really went to camp as a kid. No I did a couple of things that weren't really fun can't they were army style camps and they were they were more meant to be carried to building them fun so nevertheless no other Alexander's he lives every year he talks about it. Being he's real hyme which is just pointing to they. Well kids are <hes> I <hes> when I think a camp I think movies that depicted camp way back in the eighties that we we didn't have those camps here in the U._k.. so that was the only exposure we go to them. was you know things like Friday the thirteenth. Let's not quite the camp that I was thinking of God. I'M GONNA call wash before he leaves so what's funny was ahead a a <hes> as part of work at a vehicle I had to deliver and it's for a tribal government and so I they couldn't come pick up the vehicle because if they came and picked it up they have to have a plate on vehicle. They have to have insurance on vehicle and because there are separate government <hes> than the United States <hes> if I take it to them they don't have to pay taxes. They don't have to prove that there's insurance vehicle. They don't have to have a plate. I just put a dealer plate and drive down there. It's about an hour south of work so when we were coming back because I had obviously had has someone come with me. Because what am I gonNA Walk Doc <hes> we decided we were in landcruiser eighty five thousand dollar Land Cruiser. We thought it would be cool to take a couple of pitchers for social media <hes> of the vehicle itself by this lake because because we saw this scientist says lake access try it's kind of in the middle of nowhere this place so we went down this road and I it was really weird. It's like we're in the country open-field woodfield than these tree show up we go through these trees and then all of a sudden speedometer speed limit says ten miles an hour. We thought we'll do we like go down to private road or something but no clearly not because it's public access yeah and sure enough. It's a summer camp and we have to drive right through this summer camp and there's all these teenagers and there's a lake in then there's these tennis courts and there's this little stand that looks like it's like ice cream or something and I thought wow this is like a an eighties John cusack movie type of summer camp. I mean that's what it looked like the way the kids addressed <hes> it was it was bizarre. An Alex was was with me. We're kind of looking around like wh what what just happened here but we both agreed it may have been the coolest look and camp we had ever seen I mean for all we know it was it was crazy you know cultists and they're planning on overthrowing the government or something I don't know <hes> but it was it really hearken back to the eighties which brings me to our topic this week. <hes> thought it would be fun to kind of you know right now. David everyone's talking about this summer blockbusters blockbusters how big it is this. This might be one of the biggest summers for movies and it really is. I mean Spiderman. Far from home is looking to pass the one billion dollar mark <hes> avengers <hes>. They're like the second top rated movie of all time so in other words Disney and Sony are making the money. Everybody else's Kinda hurting a little bit but there's some really good movies out there. So what was it like when we were or younger so let's go back to one thousand nine hundred eighty six and kind of see what were the big ten to ten big movies eighty six. Can they compare and quality to what we've got right no