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"todd schultz" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"Guests her fucking name. No, it can't be another megan it is Megan within a weird a that does not need to be word as. Anyway Megan goes by she heard they, which is Super Fun I. Love When People Pick. That's fun Thank you for Normalizing Pronouns Megan I'm sorry me. Your subjects line is who doesn't enjoy a double murder that cancels Halloween. ooh ooh goodness. Okay. So this is what they say. Hello you will definitely probably need slash want a drink after this one. Mia Again I like this was going. I grew up in a small town in Ohio Logan Ohio H. I. O. of Logan. Do you know L. O. N. O. H. O. L. O.. Quite where it is, but I've heard of it well, it is about forty minutes south of Columbus. That's literally very close to me. Then I think it's commonly referred to as the hocking. Oh. Okay. What that's literally where I'm going where blazing air celebrating our anniversary oh great i. hope you go to the exact location holy Shit. That's the that's why I know Logan because we literally just booked fucking cabin there. Okay. Well, now, everyone on Halloween go look. Not, on Halloween, it comes out or we're going like two days before on the thirteenth anniversary two days before this episode air. So like Oh. Okay. So it's already been done already been done well like but also happening I don't like that. Okay. So on your, we've listened to my sultan voice telling about its. bursary. That's what I always do. I was there to ruin your wedding wasn't night favorite activity. Okay. So Sh-. So she slash they lives in hocking hills, which is mostly known for its amazing hiking trails and scenic landscape. Any who in nineteen eighty-four too young locals named Christine and blaze stopping. We're reported missing Vuk. The mothers of the local teens weren't too worried when the teens did not show up curfew they both thought that their child had fallen asleep at the other person's home. It was not until the next day when neither teen was home that the families began to worry the families call each other to check in with one another, and after realizing that neither family had seen the teens both families immediately began looking for them and finally decided to report them missing what was found what was found next would changed the small town forever. uh-huh. Christine. Time that October which is what it is. Ten days after the disappearance of the teenagers, a net cooper, Johnston, and todd. Schultz. Torsos. Were even like Eva somewhere going like Oh fuck I didn't realize. Hit..
"todd schultz" Discussed on Wrongful Conviction Podcasts
"This sounds unbelievable. But you see the judges are nodding along. There's no whether buying this. Is there a after a very short deliberation? The judges apparently believed the testimony of the Prosecution's anthropologists who put you right at the scene of the crime. They convict you. And you are sentenced to death. The store you just heard is based on the murder of a net cooper, Johnston and todd. Schultz. Dale Johnston was wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death nine, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four. He was exonerated in nineteen ninety. Over twenty years after the murder, the true killer finally confessed. But even then the people in the town of Logan still chose to believe the deal was guilty in one way or another. On today's episode, we're going to examine how supposed footprint put an innocent man on death row. I'm Josh Dugan Civil Rights and Criminal Defense Attorney and Innocence Ambassador to the Innocence Project New York. Today, on wrongful conviction junk science, we examined footwear comparison evidence even when done correctly impression analysis of evidence like shoeprints and tire tracks as purely subjective. Many experts recognize its limitations but one. So called expert in particular push the limits of this forensic discipline to produce horrific outcomes. It turns out the Dale Johnson wasn't the only innocent person to be convicted of a crime based on faulty footwork comparison evidence. We create these podcasts with the aim to educate as well as to inspire action. Now, we'd love to hear from you. We'd love for other listeners hear what you've been inspired by winless into these incredible human stories and what you've been inspired to do. Have you written a letter talk to a friend or parent about it? Have you donated money or dedicate some of your time? What's he? Gore story. Come leave all of us. Note in the Review Section of Apple podcasts tell us how you've been moved. And remember, and I truly mean this no action. No story is too small to share. What's yours? In nineteen seventy-six archaeologists made one of the most exciting discoveries of our time. They've found footprints dating back three point seven million years immortalized in the volcanic gash in. Tanzania. And they looked like, Human Brent's. Archaeologists were thrilled. They thought these footprints shed some light on when Human Beings began walking upright on two feet. Lewis Robbins was an anthropology professor at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. She too was excited about these footprints and want to know exactly who left them behind. Louisa been acting her own studies footprint analysis. She started collecting footprints from people who still alive five hundred people put ink onto their feet and then stood on a piece of paper. Based on. Those prince. Louis. Tried to find characteristics and feet that were specific to age sex stature and weight using her own system of measurement. She would then compare those characteristics the footprints found in the caves her conclusion. No to footprints are the same. In fact, she thought she could tell a great deal about a person just by looking at their footprint. Her methods were never tested by their peers. Nor were they confirmed by other scientists but Louise, she thought she was onto something she claimed do something no one else could identify a person solely through their footprint. And so in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight, when a team of scientists went to excavate the site in Tanzania where the prehistoric footprints were found. Lewis. went to. When she saw the prince, she claimed that one of them was left by a woman that was five and a half months pregnant. Now, other scientists on the expedition scratched their heads. It was hard enough to figure out if the prince that they were looking at were. At all no one had ever claimed to know the gender of the person that made the print. Let alone of that person was carrying a child. Then Louise took a dangerous leap. She positions herself as a forensic expert authoring a book footprints. She didn't write this book with her. Peers in mind but charade for law enforcement and crime labs. Only. Five pages in this book were dedicated the analysis of actual shoeprints and yet based on these five pages Luiz claim that she was an expert in this area of forensic science. Lawyers began to hire her as an expert witness. They told judges that her work was on the cutting edge of forensic science. Critics over war called it Cinderella analysis after all she usually made sure that the shoe fit when she matched the suspects foot to the shoeprints found at a crime scene. In the more than twenty cases for which she testified twelve people, some of whom have since been proven to be innocent or sent to prison. Including Dale Johnston who was sentenced to death. A Dale Johnson and his wife Sarah at the time. Down to Logan several days after the bodies have been discovered and the they came to the local police department, they wanted to be helpful to them and Dale immediately taken up to an interrogation room. Is boots and the his pants shirt. We're all confiscated. So he was sitting there in the chair in his underwear and they were bombarding. If you did it didn't you? We know you did and over and over again he gives they know I have nothing I just came I came into the. Try to help. Here today is billow since key a journalist who covered the Dell, Johnson case for years and wrote a book about it called guilty by popular demand. So bill tell us a little bit about yourself and how you started covering this case. For nearly forty years I was a reporter worked for eleven different newspapers around the country. I. Worked for the Akron Beacon Journal that time, which is nearly two hundred miles away from Logano where the murders took place. But in those days, newspapers valued a major story and would make that kind of investment in time and resources to cover a a widely publicized case like that. So bill you actually went to Logan Ohio to Coverdale's trial. What was that like? Drove into Logan, which is about five miles south of Columbus Ohio never been there before and I drove in on a January morning and it was one of the coldest days I can't remember temperatures were well below zero and I went to the Center of the little town and found the courthouse in here. You know eight o'clock on a weekday morning news a line outside the courthouse people were standing in.
"todd schultz" Discussed on Dans La T�te D'un Coureur
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"todd schultz" Discussed on WGN Radio
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"todd schultz" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"Extra increased tariffs lead the higher furniture prices. There's much more to the story the furniture getting all the press is made in China and yes, higher tariffs will cause prices on Chinese made furniture to skyrocket. But we're not worried because penny mustards furniture isn't made in China ninety four point two percent of our furniture is made in the USA. Our US made solid wood, sophisticated penny mustard. Strong furniture will last generations longer than the junk maiden China. Now that headline mustard dot com. Eight twenty eight at WTMJ Steve's Kapiti is in Alaska. G Miller is in France, Scott worse is sitting in the big chair. Here we are in the contiguous United States. Yes. No, the phrase that you guys were talking about because I've got the audio the phrase that you were talking about that OJ said. And that heartwarming Father's Day. I've got a Twitter account. Follow me it was quote. I've got a little getting even to do. Oh, that's what it was not scores to settle. Well, six one generation a variation of. Yeah, gosh. So twenty five years ago tonight was the chase do you guys remember exactly where you were? And if one of those wherever you went moments that I know it is for me. I was out. And so at that time, there weren't televisions in every single bar that you were in, like there is now. So I don't remember even being aware of it until the next day. Really? And I thought they let him dry for that long. And nobody shot them. What about, you know, I do remember it. Because it's like my first news e kind of memory, I was at my grandparents house on Brown, shag carpet, watching basketball and thinking why did they go away from the game? Like, you know, your, your mind when you're young. You don't understand why they're doing this for a while before the split screen. Maybe it was one solid stream. So I remember being what what is happening right now. Do you remember the game not not as much as the chase not as much as the split screens the first time I ever saw split screen? I remember that I think calling it a chase is is a is inaccurate. It was a follow follow. It was a slow follow it really wasn't a chase. You've getting away, much them. Yes. Well, we're going to spend a little time maybe reflecting because again, the question of the question, where were you when is just a, I'm always fascinated by, like, Mike? Like you said some of the vivid details. Obviously nine eleven. Is one of the big where were you when moments and I think all can have a specific. I was I was sitting here I was drinking a Cup of coffee. I was what, what we'll do that in the eleven o'clock hour because I was talking to Jordan. Nineteen Ninety-four that was the year of OJ and gosh, twenty five years later, and obviously OJ still spending a lot of his time still looking for the real killers of Nicole, and Ron and, you know, God bless him for that effort, except for the whole writing the why I did it book that in the Gulf. Yup. In the anyway. More power to them. We'll get into some of that. Talking about law enforcement. A couple of fascinating stories over the weekend, one at that Costco, shooting in California, another what happened to that family in Phoenix. And I think it's a situation where everybody just needs to pump the brakes a little bit let developments and details unfold and then we can start to draw conclusions. But we'll go through some of that eight thirty till noon. Scott Morrison for Steve gefitinib. We'll get going in just a moment. But first over to Mike to get caught up in the mornings headlines. Thank you, Scott. A home on Milwaukee's north side, heavily damaged after a fire. The fire department on the scene near seventeen in Atkinson at about four thirty this morning. No injuries, being reported is the home was vacant at the time of the fire Racine. Police say an eighteen year old man who was shot and killed by a Mount Pleasant police officer was armed and ignored wreck. Our commands to drop his weapon Racine deputy police chief Todd Schultz says the Mount Pleasant officer confronted tirees west early Saturday morning. He says the officer observed a short chase that the west was armed though. The statement did not say what with what kind of weapon, and the lights are back on across Argentina, Uruguay, and Paraguay is following yesterday's massive blackout. The department of energy says the outage began with a failure of the country's interconnection system energy officials tell the Associated Press that the results of an investigation should be available within five or ten to fifteen business days. Time for the WTMJ Drake and.
"todd schultz" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Right. That. Let's, let's that tangent too much. Let's go on into our, our topic for the evening. Oh, so sorry they might tangent too much free. Yeah. Yeah. Bring it down. We'll give you if if you are here at like the eight minute six-minute. Whatever minute Mark, this is why they talk a lot. I mean we're gonna talk about the artists now right now right now right now. But we need to warm on it. Yeah, we warm up. We drink a little bit. We tell you about the fucking beer. We think we're hilarious. Yeah. And then there are friends like us. I mean, like people do like us, we do have friends, I swear to God we did. Before we get into it. I probably should slight my sources site. Just thank Mrs Thors, says, was, I was a documentary called heaven, adores you, which is all about Elliott Smith's life and these cities that he lived in during his career. And also a book called torment Saint by William Todd Schultz, which the book itself was really good audio book. Narration not great. All right. You live. But whatever I mean I should've read it instead of listen to it. That's my, that's my problem. Well, I mean time is not a friend of ours. We need extra day just to do. All the shit, we need to do. Ba let's get into it. Yeah. Hopefully we're helping you get through your chores. Hopefully I mean I mean I don't know. I mean I might just make you sad. But maybe. House chores while you're listen this episode. So Elliott Smith is truly one of the most depressing musicians that has ever existed t h full disclosure. Yeah. One hundred percent is you need a good cry or man cry. I cry Elliott. Smith is gonna get you there. All right. There is something about his music that could put the most bubbly of people in bed curled into the fetal position and crying over all the feels that they have all he had some truly horrible demons that drove him to create gorgeous haunting music and at the same time fueled his addictions to alcohol in hard drugs. No. Yes, it's a heroin episode over heroin episode. We cannot glorify. No, no. It's like it's like when you true crime podcast, and they're like, you know, this is a gold star this heroines Darwin, sir. Black tar star up and we'll, we'll think of a good name for it. What can we get there? He said, once that he was the wrong kind of person to be big and famous. And he was absolutely right. All he was never a big fish in a small pond. He was a small fish content with a small pond, just as long as he had his own little corner to swim in, but he was thrown into the limelight. Unwillingly anyway, with disastrous consequences. Elliott was actually born Stephen pulse myth in Omaha. Nebraska on August sixth, nineteen sixty-nine not August sixth. You would Hutter presents at August if. Not as he is not a Sieff. Oh, no. I don't think he's any type of for Caesar. No, no. By the time he was one year old his parents had split up any move to Duncanville, Texas with his mom bunny, which is a fucking Torvill name. That is acute. That's a real cute like fit. Texan lady name. Yeah. Yeah. Like bunny and kitty are like ooh adorable. Texas fifties kind of housewife love it. I'm here for it. Things were great for a while. He was a happy kid that loved music and bunny being a music teacher meant it was a big part of their lives. But of course, things always go downhill, no bunny, remarried, when Elliott was four to a man named Charlie. Welsh, Charlie was not a good person. Oh, cool.
"todd schultz" Discussed on True Crime Garage
"Molester. Well, all right, this. This is really sad that the young couple was the Lord to a cornfield near Kenny Lynn, Scott's house. Allegedly, after more partying went down McKnight was high on LSD and cocaine, and he told Lynn Scott that he was planning on raping a net and is sounds like Kenny Lyn Scott was into doing the same. The four of them left Lynn Scott's house. And when they left Lynch got handed a twenty two caliber revolver to Chester McKnight. And he said, if Todd Schultz puts up a fight us this gun to control him. Well, they did start to assault a net and as expected, Todd Schultz came to her rescue and started to protect his girlfriend and so- mcnutt McKnight shot Todd six times twice in the head and a net started to scream, and that's when MC. Night panicked, and shot her in the head and neck. The men then grabbed a machete from Lynn Scott's garage. They stripped the bodies McKnight masturbated over the body of the female victim wasn't prepared for that and Lyn Scott held the limbs while McKnight cut away at the bodies. At one point, McKnight apparently slipped badly cutting, Kenny, Lynn, Scott's arm. The men then loved the torsos to the riverbank and threw them into the Hocking river. Apparently the men washed up in the river and went back to Kenny Lynn, Scott's house. Afterwards. McKnight says he let the body parts li- saying that he left the home at some point and at some point, Kenny Lyn, Scott must have returned to the cornfield and buried the remaining limbs. Investigators withheld a witness report that a man not Johnston, followed the couple into. To the cornfield and then heard gunshots and screams that man that was reported to police back in hundred eighty two was Kenny Lyn Scott, but the caller didn't know Kenny, Lynn, Scott's name, right. This was the lead that should have been followed up on instead of honing in on Dale Johnston on September second, two thousand eight McKnight and Lyn. Scott were both indicted on charges of aggravated murder. McKnight demanded lethal injection to pay for his sins, but later ultimately accepted a pair of life sentences. He will die in prison with the case against him, shaky given mcknight's varying stories. So keep that in mind McKnight was giving multiple stories and confessions. It had been a long time, you know, I it had been over twenty years, right? Lynn, Scott forty, eight years of age at the time, pled guilty to abuse of a corpse and was released from prison after. Only serving ten months. So to put this in perspective, Dale Johnston who killed nobody served a longer sentence in prison for the death of his stepdaughter and her boyfriend then Kenny Lyn, Scott who participated actively and willingly participated in events that led up to the murder and led to the concealment of the murders right Johnston served more time than this guy. He lost everything and then Kenny Lyn, Scott, it's ten months. And both these killers actually remained free after killing these two young people longer than the victims lived on this planet. It's a sad, sad set of circumstances, but just because there's a rest and this case, that doesn't mean there's Justice, right? They're they're actually feels like there was no Justice in this case. Now, Kenneth, Robert Lyn Scott. Lot of Logan, Ohio passed away on Monday, November twenty. Fifth, two thousand thirteen at the age of fifty two. Do you have any recommended reading for us this week? You know that I do captain this week. We are recommending the acid king by Jesse p Pollock very, very exciting stuff. Captain. I cannot lie though. I have not actually read this book because it just came out yesterday, but I have ordered my copy and Jesse is a great author and a good friend of our show. We've had him on before the captain had him join the captain on our other great show off the record, and the acid king is about a murder in a small town that local police in the international press dubbed a satanic sacrifice. The short of it for teens went into the woods and only three came out the long of it, the murder became the subject of several popular songs and TV specials. Addressing the issue of whether or not American teens were practising satanism and debating the symbolism in songs by ACDC and Ozzy Osbourne. So make sure you check out the acid king and support our buddy. Jesse p Pollock and thanks to all of you for supporting the garage until next week. Be good, be kind and don't let.
"todd schultz" Discussed on True Crime Garage
"That Satan is killed. The victims the judge is permitted testimony from a specific witness in this is key to this trial. This is the witness, Steve, Rhine. We've talked about him already now to go a little bit more in depth with him. The first time that Steve Rhine was interviewed by sheriff's deputies. He was not sure of the day that he was quoting. He was not sure who the kids were that he saw when he later referred to the teenagers that went missing them were murdered or who the person was with the. Kids that he saw. So really, he knew nothing. He was also captain on paper. This is on in the police report. He's also not sure of the kind of vehicle that he saw. Basically, what he says is he comes forward to the police to the sheriff's deputies and say, I have some information that might help the case. This is before the arrest was made right. He says, I saw two people with some guy getting into a car, and I'm not really sure what day it was on, but it was in that cornfield where you found those kids. Right. Well, the sheriff's department that's when they decide to hypnotize him because sometimes you can hypnotize somebody and drawl details out of what they can't seem to remember. All right. So we have get out your crystal ball already in this case. And then on top of that, get out your pocket watch and you're getting sleepy, very sleepy. Well, what happens here? Captain is. Is Steve Ryan, who would eventually testify at Dale Johnston's trial and which lead to the arrest of Dale Johnston after he spoke to detective Thompson several times and was hypnotized. Now, all of a sudden he is telling in his statement. His latest statement is I saw a net Cooper and Todd Schultz who eventually were murdered forced into a vehicle, and it was Dale Johnston, forced him into Dale Johnston's vehicle in that area on the day that they went missing. Well, you know what? This is right. This is Hala weaned miracle. That's right. Well, this is going to lead to Dale Johnston being convicted and sentenced to death. He is going to appeal this and he's actually lucky. I believe that he got the death penalty. Now keep in mind. This is high. Oh, back in the early eighties. So he sentenced to sit on. The electric chair. Yeah. These appeals will eventually grant him a new trial. And this is because the prosecutor and investigators it becomes known that they withheld statements and evidence from Johnston's defense team that could have cast major doubt on his guilt and that they failed. This is the investigators failed to pursue leads that could have helped to exonerate him. And what that means is investigators when they took tips when that phone was ringing off the hook, they were listening to the ones that said, hey, I saw Dale Johnston, do something right. They weren't really working. The leads it said, hey, I saw something else going on and it didn't include Dale Johnston, right? Like I've said before, it's it's classic tunnel vision. Well, it was determined at a new trial captain that Johnston should have been found not guilty based on the withheld evidence which included eyewitness testimony that placed other individuals at the cornfield and not. Johnston as well as the testimony that was alternately ruled that should not have been allowed at trial since it was only brought about by hypnosis so eventually Johnson is freed in nineteen ninety. Now he would go after the state for wrongful imprisonment, claim in nineteen Ninety-three this is denied by the state and technically, well, it's denied on multiple occasions in technically, to kind of sum it up best that I can Johnston still to this day has not received a cent from the state for the years that he spent not only in prison but on death row and why find it. So hilarious. It'd be like given me the power where I could punch you. And then I said, well, I know I punched you, but you can't sue me well in the thing too is that there was language that was put into law at a later date that basically says people like Dale Johnston while. Technically, as it's written somebody that's wrongfully convicted can and should be rewarded money by the state. However, they've put language into that that it's, they make it damn near impossible that you're going to get paid for anything. And the sad part of this to me and we still got a bunch to get through is. But before Dale Johnston was sentenced to death in nineteen Eighty-four. He had a wife. He had kids, he owned fifty three acres of land. He had no debt and no pants on. But when he was released, he was released as a free man, and he had nothing other than an old pickup truck that was given to him by his lawyer. Look, if you're going to take the right away to be sued if you put the wrong person in prison, then you need to spend more time trying to put the right person and prison. Amen. I also wanna point out too. We talked about his wife, Sarah going and seeking treatment because she was had fallen on hard times to say the very least they would end up getting a divorce. And I think this should point out to whom I believe the real Dale Johnston to be. They got a divorce because of him. He had nobody. He's on death row. He had nobody. And he told his wife who it seems like he loved very much right. He said to her, he said, Sarah, we need to get a divorce because I'm locked up. I'm the monster that they locked up the monster that they think I am. They locked me away, but you're on the outside and everybody thinks you are a monster, and you've been ostracized from town and everybody hates you and you having my last name and you being married to me is going to destroy the rest of your life. He says to her, I would much rather have a friend that I got a divorce from then to have a wife that ends up committing suicide. And that was the path she was on. Yeah. And even once he was released, she continued as well as her daughter. Michelle, the living daughter, they continued to support Dale Johnston all of this time through all of his appeals and through his release. They were there to greet him. We should point out to remember Michelle who was taken from her mother's home placed into the foster care system in a different county when she was fifteen or sixteen years old and the day that she turned eighteen and was released from foster care. Where did she go back home right back to her mother, right back to her mother and that again, kind of points out that maybe some of these rumors weren't true. Maybe they just were not true. Well, Johnson after he's released and he's broke and he has no land. Nothing. He does go to live with his mother in the village of Asheville pick away county, which is twenty miles south of Columbus. Yeah. He said that he. Still was receiving quite a bit of prejudice from the people of that area. And he decided to Asheville was not going to be where he stayed. He was still very much under a cloud of suspicion, you know, and even the people that didn't believe that he was guilty of murder, they still thought and still suspected him of molesting his stepdaughter before her death. He would eventually tried to move on with his life while in prison, he did commit hisself and his life to Jesus. And after his release, he actually became a head usher at the First Baptist Church and grove city, Ohio, and later a member of the congregation. This is Roberta Crocker. She took a liking to the head usher. She said in an heart ical quote, he was a handsome, dude. So in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight ever get married. Again, I hope she says, hey, he's one, handsome, dude. I would just love to be described as a handsome, dude. I strive to be a hand. I wanna make sure with your face on it that says, handsome dude. Well, I'll give you the short of it. Captain Roberta in Johnston's relationship grew serious over the years. Eventually they were married in June of two thousand and they lived in a home in grove city, Ohio. This was not without Roberta's sons blessing who is Bryan Corbett which was the pastor at the First Baptist Church. He had heard the rumors and even her Johnston talking about spending time at lucasville which everybody in Ohio knows, hey, lucasville is not just a prison. It's maximum security and oh yeah, there's death row there too. Yeah. So he did a lot spent a lot of time with Dale Johnston getting to know him before he gave his blessing for the. Marriage to his mother. The strange thing here, though captain is after he's released after Johnson's release, this technically becomes a cold case. And people would still speculate as to Johnston's kill an a person that refuses to there's an evil person that continues to haunt true crime garage, and his name is William wick line. Yeah, he has been considered a suspect in this case by the public for many years, once this became a cold case, and he is William the butcher wick line is his nickname, he's in animal. He was found guilty of murdering decapitating and dismembering, Chris and Peggy lurch, and he was free at the time of a net Cooper and Todd Schultz's murder. Yeah. And so he was long suspected of this case he has been executed by the state of Ohio, so good luck investigating that at the time. Yeah. If you haven't looked wick line, you should because he is. I mean, he is a scary monster. You. If you wanted to write a murder book or a mystery book, right? You could, you could look his life in base a criminal or murderer after him and have a have a good selling book. Now, out of nowhere, captain there is a break in the long cold case. This didn't come until June of two thousand and seven. This is when a woman sandy Lyn Scott, she is visiting her probation officer and they're talking through some things, and she says to her probation officer, I think that twenty five years ago that those two people that were murdered Todd and Annette, I think they were at my house the night that they disappeared. And I think that they left with my husband and a man that she, she didn't know his name. She described the man as looking like a chipmunk. Okay. Okay. So you want to be described as a handsome, dude, and not a chipmunk right note self. Well, her husband is Kenny Lyn, Scott. We've heard that name. Before haven't we? He was the man in the corn stalks that were watching the police when they found the bodies. Yeah, and they questioned Kenny Lynch got the cut. And she says, when her husband Kenny came home that he was covered in blood and he had a bad cut to his arm. But he refused to discuss what had happened investigators very quickly zeroed in on Kenny Lyn Scott. And then they also zeroed in on the man that looked like a chipmunk. And this was Chester McKnight who was in prison for possession of child pornography and attempting to arrange sex with an under undercover officer posing as a teenage girl real winner. Now Lyn Scott, Kenny Lyn Scott told investigators, there was a chance, a small chance that the murdered couple had been at his house that night and that he might have even been in the cornfield with them that night. But he said he did not kill them. Okay. But what happens is once they zero in on this McKnight guy, that's in prison already. He very quickly says, I killed them and Lyn Scott helped me really? Yes. So do you want to hear how this goes down yet, but do we have a why we do? And this is this is what is so sad about this, our show and about our world about these stories. A lot of times, it's very clear that these murders are just senseless that there are people that are wiped off of this earth. They are taken from their loved ones way too young and almost for no reason at all or reasons that don't make sense to to good people too good, normal people, right? This is the story that was told to police the on the evening of October fourth nineteen eighty-two Todd in a net went to a local small time, drug dealers house. This is Kenny Lyn, Scott. The thought was that they were there to purchase a small amount marijuana and have a couple of beers. They're just going to have a little party a little get together. They're adults. We've all been there. The drug dealer, Kenny Lyn, Scott. He had his friend at the house. This is Chester McKnight at the time. McKnight was a drifter who was also nicknamed Chester the molester.
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"Well, this is not going to sway the sheriff. He. He still believes that Dale is the killer and his team of investigators gay. Gather more damaging reports of Dale. A lot of these are starting to get stories of Dale owning a large amount of knives and guns, and we know that they were shot. We know that the victims were dismembered, so this is not look good for him. Now we have thirty one year old, Mike Jiddah he alleges that Dale Johnston is a is a satanist or at least involved in satanic activity, right? He doesn't baseless off of anything. Well, I can't say that he doesn't base it. I don't know what he's basing this off of a dream, but he's he doesn't tree. He doesn't put forth any concrete evidence to to back up this statement this this again, we just have another person that lives in the area coming forward with information that we have no way of deciphering if it's true or false Brian. Again with this Tommy and so small, the rumor mill is going to just keep going and keep going. Then. We have another individual and I'm going to totally screw up his name. I can't figure this one out twenty five year old Scott, Fujitsu, I think foo- get. I'll spell it again if anybody wants to look. This sounds great f. u. g. e. t. t. I'm probably getting that completely wrong, but so this twenty five year old man named Scott. He reports Dale Johnston, fired shots at him when he rode his motorcycle on DALE'S property this again, not looking good for Dale at a town meeting. This is a town meeting of two hundred and fifty citizens. They are vocally outraged about the killer, not being apprehended and the lack of police officers and Logan. So this would fully point out the fears of the citizens of Logan at that time. Not only are they saying, hey, we're afraid because you haven't arrested anybody, but we're also afraid because we don't think there's enough law enforcement. In this area, but we know that we know that they were getting help from Columbus PD. Unofficially, right. And and maybe sheriff Jones didn't want that quote unquote help. Now, the meeting ended with the citizens of Logan, demanding the arrest and conviction of the major suspect who they considered to be the major suspect Dale Johnston, regardless of conflicting views and regardless of the lack of evidence. And we've seen this in Ohio before up north withhold Dr shepherd, right the the, you know the public outrage. And so then it's weird how public outrage actually gets the criminal Justice system moving. Yeah, it's the public, controlling the hand of the law or the media, directing the hand of the law by the sheriff's department shows up at Dale Johnston's property. This is unannounced. So he's but negative. Well, what I will say in his defense here, one thing that points good for him and his direction, they show up unannounced and Dale says, go ahead and search the property. He's he's willing to let them he doesn't fight it. You know, he doesn't say, no, you need to come back with a warrant. They don't specify by the state of circumstantial evidence, but they what they stay is that circumstantial evidence was retrieved from the edge of the property that links the stepfather to the actual murders. All right. Let's talk about this here captain because we have no list of what this circumstantial evidence is. It doesn't exist, but I like I think this is where you have the sheriff's department going. Look. We did a search and we found some stuff. We've found some shit boys. Okay. So the the citizens have pushed our hand. Now we're. Going to release this information conveniently to the media, which is again going, it's going to keep the cycle going. It's going to keep the circle going, right? You wanted us to find evidence. We found well, then we have a statement that's very interesting. And this is where I think we can come up with an idea of what that circumstantial evidence may or may not be. We have FBI ballistics expert. This is Thomas Nicholson. He reports publicly that Dale Johnston quote might have committed the murders. All right. Well, what is this guy's job? He's a ballistic. Sex s. expert, right? The stuff that's he's the risk case. Well, we also have this guy earlier that says, hey, I was writing my motorcycle on Dale Johnson's property and he fired a couple shots at me. My idea here is that maybe they recovered bullet casings from some, right, right. And these bullets could have been twenty two caliber ri- could be done. On the edge of the property because he was shooting at a guy to get off his land or somebody not Dale Johnston was shooting their gun on the edge of his property. Dale Johnson's property is depending on which report you read. It varies from fifty two acres to fifty four acres. I labeled it as fifty three just to be kissed him. So Bakkal dude, fifty three acre property. You can't. You don't know what the hell's going on on your property. That's a huge amount of land. Anybody could be on the edge of your property firing a gun anytime. Now, let's say it did come from, let's say it was from Daryl. Dale Johnston, target shooting shooting, hunting animals or shooting at this motor. This motorcyclist now where he could be going out there, you know with his Dong flapping in the wind, and he's just firing bullets up in the air, you know. And I think he has the right to says land. But a twenty two is an extremely extremely common gut, yes. And to the point where that's you have the FBI ballistics expert. Thomas Nicholson stating Johnston might have committed the murders and he's basing that I believe off of them finding casings of twenty of twenty two caliber bullets on the property. At some point also seems like they haven't done the tests yet because the test would prove if it was that gun or not. Well, that's why I think he had to publicly say might because I bet you they did do the test and they didn't match. But because they were the same caliber of gun, he saying, well, he had access to twenty two. We can't prove that they're the came from the same gun, right? But maybe they couldn't prove that they didn't come from the same gun. Therefore he might have the thing that the reason why I include these tidbits. So captain is all of this stuff is finding its way to the media. There's nothing that happens. In this case that doesn't get released publicly. I mean they, they did lock up the autopsies. They did seal the autopsies, but outside of that, any little inkling anybody had of Dale Johnson being guilty finds its way to the newspapers bright, which is very interesting to me because in Ohio, we have another set of murders that people have been talking about lot is the pike county murders, and that's a very, very small town, and there's not there's not much happening in the media about that case. No. So it's kind of the reverse. Now we also have Dr Louise Robbins, a forensic anthropologists reports that Dale Johnston's boop matches the print found at the crime scene, and then we have nineteen year olds. Steve Rhine. This is Todd Schultz, cousin. He comes forward as a possible eyewitness later. He is hypnotized by police and well, not by an actual police officer, but I'm sure they. Hired somebody to hypnotize this individual. And during this interview, he says that he saw Dale Johnston force the two teens into a car on the evening of October fourth. So now we have eyewitness. We have an eyewitness that vocal that name's David Johnston, Dale Johnston. Now Dale is interrogated. He's a, he's picked up for this. He's interrogated in what is later reported as a smoke filled room for seven to eight hours during this. And I don't think this was by choice captain during this he's wearing nothing, but under shorts and socks, he's film good. Well, they basically tell them to strip down. He wants to get in his element and they're going to interview him in his undershorts and socks. And the reason they did this, they were convinced that they would find some kind of markings on him. Scrapes bruises something. That would have been defensive wounds. There was no, there's no sign of trauma to his body at all. He while there's signs of trauma to my body, he continues to deny the allegations against him agent. Remember agent Henry from the FBI he disapproves. He publicly comes out and disapproves of the way that detective Thompson interrogated Dale Johnston. He called it barbaric, right? But he he has his suspect in his sights. Right, right. So, I mean, this is a classic example of people in tunnel vision and not jumping on board. During this interrogation, the Logan police detective constantly. He just kept telling Johnston to confess, we know that you killed the kids, you know that you killed the kids. You need to confess you need to make this right. Make it easier on yourself, and he kept in. He kept reminding him that the town was in fear. The whole town was in fear. Can you help us out by confessing to this so that the town can continue to go on? And he said, hold on a second. Let me take off my socks. Well, they also brought in Sarah, his wife, and they brought in his other stepdaughter. Michelle, Michelle was reportedly kept in a room for eight hours for a solid eight hours. And what I mean by that is during that eight hours, she had nothing to eat. She had no restroom breaks. And according to Sarah, her mother, she said that they just grilled and grilled and grilled Michelle until she finally just shut down. She just wouldn't respond anything. Right. And that's what we're talking about. The other day on off the record is. You know, if you're if you don't have any information or they're accusing you of a crime and you claim that you're innocent, how many times should you have to claim this before they're forced to leave you alone. And I'm curious as to her age, we, I know that she was not an adult. I believe that she would have been fifteen or sixteen at this time. Now what her mother, Sarah would later tell us is that the police, the sheriff's department, they were angry that they couldn't get anything out of Michelle. They got nothing out of her out of eight hours of grilling her. She confessed to nothing and Sarah says that what they wanted her to say was that she was there that she had witnessed the to being killed or Saul them after they were killed and that the mother Sarah had cut up the bodies or helped her husband Dale cut up the bodies. Yeah, it's. And if you have no evidence of this and they must have believed that this is how it went down to try to get this teenager to turn on her mother. I mean, it's one thing to turn on your stepfather, especially with the rumors around town, but to turn on your mother as well. That makes me really question if DALE'S guilty or not. I almost feel like this poor girl that's grilled for eight hours. It could have been easy to turn on your stepfather, especially if there was actually any kind of molest Asian or sexual abuse going on in the household. If how long would it take you to tell them? Hey, yeah, I do think he did it. Maybe I didn't see anything, but I still think he did it. You know? So it makes me question his guilt, but he's arrested. Dale Johnson is arrested. He's denied bail the same day that he is arrested. Michelle, the other daughter is picked up and placed in foster care. This is in another county. They take her out. Out of the area and we have the, the wife that remains Sarah. She is basically ostracized in town. Right? They she bannered a murder because she married a murder, and now they don't end date think maybe she's involved. So they take her daughter away the towns. People seem to think that she is involved in maybe the police just don't have anything on her in the course of weeks, man. This woman, Sarah lost her daughter to to being murdered her husband to the arrest of that murder and her daughter to foster care. Ladies
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"Margaret and net Cooper later in life. She would go by the beautiful name of a net and that was born June eleventh nineteen sixty four Zeena, Ohio. And that was a pretty blonde many referred to her as a local beauty. Other said she had a bit of a troubled pass after high school. She was off to Hocking college and eighteen year old student full of life and dreams, and as of October nineteen eighty two. And that was in a year long relationship with nineteen year old. Todd Schultz, Todd from Nelson Ville. Hi. Oh, he was born just less than a year before net and their relationship was pretty serious. What started off as a courtship, based off of mostly physical attraction had blossomed into a possible wedding engagement. Todd's mother said the two had not made it official, but they were certainly talking about it. Now. Todd was a good kid with the Grayson's of humor, and everybody said that he loved children. After high school, he went to vocational school and studied graphic design. It was well known that Todd was quite the photographer. He hoped to find a career where he could get into something where he could take pictures and write articles. Todd was nineteen years old and a volunteer firefighter. There are typical teenage couple from a typical small town. Now leading up to Tober nineteen eighty-two net was living with Todd and his family at Todd's parents house. She shared a room, Todd sister, Kendra an came from what some if not, most locals referred to as a strange family, and that's family was for the most part considered to be outsiders to the people and the community of Logan. And anyone from Logan will tell you that still to this very day that most people born and raised in Logan, don't much care for transplants or outsiders and that Scholtz her stepfather. Dale Johnson was very much considered to be an. Outsider by the locals of Logan. Several years before the fall of eighty two Dale Johnson and his wife. Sarah left their previous marriages and together they moved from Zena Ohio to be together and race, heirs to doctors, Michelle, and net question for you. So you're saying that people from Logan don't like outsiders, right? But a lot of people from Logan drive to clump his for work. Right. Okay. Dale and Sarah purchase. Beautiful fifty three acre farm situated on an unpaved road just about ten miles from downtown Logan. It was known to others in the community that Dale and Sarah occasionally embraced a clothing optional lifestyle on their large secluded. Property free Bolland. Dale was a country boy, and he loved being outdoors. So so much so that when the four of them moved to the farm, he his new wife and two stepdaughters. They actually lived in tents for a while. This was to enjoy the land and to hold them over and until their trailer arrived for the property. Once the trailer arrived, they packed up their tents and moved in. They built a barn and used it to house horses, and the horses could often be seen running and drinking from a stream running through the property. But there was a nasty, rumor going around Logan, one that many wished not to discuss, but obviously they did the rumor was that Dale Johnson was molesting his stepdaughter net and it was widely believed. The net was now staying with her boyfriend and the Scholtz family because the rumored accusation might just be true Monday evening, October fourteenth nineteen year old, Todd Scholtz in his eighteen year old girlfriend. Net Cooper left Todd's parents house. They didn't tell anyone where they were going, which was a little out of character. But what was eve. Even more out of character. The two usually very reliable young adults did not
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"But not like that you know he's not like was great d for the one to big ten has a one year jj watt ryan kerrigan then the big fall from ohio state the he's not like that but he's really really good or visit backers felt it all three aspects of the game offers defense a special teams but the think that he's going to i guess catch the are the heisman voter more sold then a quarterback from louisville or in eighty even if the show wants a from clemson if you stars to show up again or the running backs in or out there i don't know i understand these are the second favorite but it's really if the quarterback from little dollars or buddy hell's here's the thing about charles woodson i'm in nineteen ninety seven when he won the heisman yeah how many touchdowns you think he scored that you're just outta curiosity because i didn't know this i just went back and looked at up couple returns a couple i'll sit for exactly what it was it was two receiving one rushing and one return in four touchdowns but he had seven interceptions and gabriel peppers i don't believe has a career interception but the key to go zero and one i don't know what the number is he had a he had one in his hands last year and dropped it and he got back to the locker room after the game and there was a text waiting for him from charles woodson that said when we get our hands on the football we catch it well and peppers head is nowhere that with that two point conversion yep well the return anywhere missed estates ill three to two point play at the end of the game but it's not it's not nearly as good as charles woodson going up to the sky and picking off todd schultz it's part the stadium right and what do we what what you're four picks.