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"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"John Chang has a review of the new Russian movie beanpole which he says is one of the most exciting discoveries. He made at last year's Cannes Film Festival. The movie won a prize at Cannes. Fritz grits twenty-eight-year-old director customer blog of and was shortlisted for an Oscar. For Best International feature it said Leningrad shortly after World War Two. Here's Justin Justin one of the first things you hear and beanpole is the sound of a woman gasping for air. Her name is Eah and as she comes into view. We see that that she is staring into space experiencing something between a seizure and a few state she has these episodes every so often. Her body freezes up for for minutes at a time immobilizing her and making it difficult for her to breathe. It's an apt metaphor for this bleak and beautifully acted drama which takes place place in Leningrad in nineteen forty five a moment. When the shell-shocked Russian populace is struggling to catch its collective breath LIA brilliantly? The play by Victoria Miroshnichenko is the six foot tall beanpole of the title but although she's physically imposing she's a quiet recessive presence. Speaking rarely and with her is almost always cast downward we learned that she was briefly stationed with the Red Army. It's not entirely clear what her role was until she was diagnosed with post concussion syndrome and discharged now. She works as a nurse dutifully tending to wounded vets and coming to life Only in the presence of her young son Pasha early on E. Brings Pashke to her hospital ward. Where the soldiers engaging the boy in a game of charades it's ask him to imitate a dog but as one of them points out Pasha couldn't possibly know what a dog looks like? They were all eaten during the war. Not Not long afterward. Something unbearably awful happens. The latest blow of many that era has to absorb beanpole directed with extraordinary intimacy missile by the gifted twenty eight year. Old Filmmaker can't Amir Balogh of is about how the trauma of war lingers and seeps into everyday life even after the award self has technically ended. The story really gets going when he as army POW Mashah played by an excellent Vice Lisa perilla Geena returns home from the frontlines. The two women couldn't be more different and not just because e towers over mash physically where e is shy and withdrawn Ron. Masha is fierce and determined her dark eyes. Blazing with mischief. Yet you can tell by the strange semi crazed smile that sometimes crosses this or features that she too has been deeply scarred by her own. Wartime Experience Mashah tries to pick up the pieces of her life landing Shaab alongside e at the hospital and beginning of flirtation with a quickly smitten. Young man named Sasha but the true focus of the story is her friendship with LIA era. These two went through hell together during the war and for better or worse it has forged an unbreakable bond between them. beanpole is about the secrets they share and the feelings of guilt confusion and jealousy that ricochet between them as they try to move forward it still somewhat rare to see a war war movie that focuses not on the heat of battle but on the difficult grueling aftermath. It's rarer still to see one. This attuned to the emotional and psychological trickle dynamics between women but beanpole is exceptional in every way. This is only the second feature directed by blog of who wrote the script with Alexander. Terry Harry Hof and was inspired by Lama. Alexyevich's twenty seventeen book the UNE womanly face of war but a lot of works in a deliberately paced dramatically dramatically. Spare style that admirers of Andrei Tarkovsky Alexander. Sokolov and other purveyors of austere Russian art cinema will immediately recognize. Yes he's also a master of texture atmosphere. You can see the horror hopelessness etched in the anonymous faces of the men and women in the background. The ones who move alongside e and mash at the hospital or silently lineup aboard streetcar in the Public Square but for all the suffering he shows us but while off also has a remarkably beautiful i. He brings a warm painter Lee sense of color to the rundown apartment that the women share and he dresses versus the actresses in the same bright christmasy shades of red and green. That we see the peeling wallpaper. It's hard to explain. How a movie this tough to watch Chatham's could also be so strikingly lovely to look at but I think blog is attempting something both difficult and profound and it comes into focus in a final anal scene that for all its sadness is also tentatively hopeful? He shows us that the friendship and love between these two women even when it leads them to commit desperate. Desperate self destructive acts can be a life sustaining force without sentimentalism his characters or their circumstances he shows us that the devastation. The station of war can be beginning as well as an end. Justin Chang is a film critic for the L. A. Times on Monday show our guest will be Michael Pollen Alan who's written bestselling books about the origins of the food. We eat and how psychedelics are helping scientists understand consciousness and the brain. He has a new audio book about Caffeine Caffeine. Its effect on the mind and body as usual. He immersed himself in his research quitting coffee. Cold Turkey hope. You can join us. Fresh air's executive producer is Danny Miller. Our Technical Director and engineer is Audrey Bentham with additional engineering support from Joyce Lebron Julian Herzfeld our associate producer for digital digital media. Is Molly seavy Nesper. Roberta shorrock directs the show Jerry. Gross and.
"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Like to direct both Deniro and Phoenix Walking Phoenix together with a both able to arrive at the place they needed to be In terms of getting the character in the the same way at the same time you know like some after like to take a lot of take some actors go to extremes to get enrolls both phoenix and Deniro have either rather lost or gained a lot of weight paroles. I mean they both had very deep into the characters. They're playing but did did they sync up. Yeah I mean as much as you want Murray and Arthur to sync up I mean th. They didn't really have to be in sync. That scene is one giant cringe really the psych. And and so that you don't necessarily want them to be in lockstep with each other but yeah it was. It's amazing to witness somebody like Deniro. Nearest approach as opposed to somebody like Joaquin's approach just in general But again I've seen that before with actors not with Robert Deniro which was just mind blowing. And could you describe anything about those approaches without violating their confidence. I mean you know. Walking has a lot of questions and really likes to go really deep on stuff. I jokingly said this about Joaquin to his face so I could say it now I say Joaquin is the tunnel at the end of the light light. Just when you think you know you're you're you've you've cracked it there's a whole nother layer to kind of peel back and Deniro. At least again I can only speak with my experience on this movie with these two characters. You much more matter fact about it Kinda gets it on the first bounce understands who murray is you know and and where Murray comes from and okays been on the air for thirty years. It's just two different approaches. But but again I just want to preface that by saying or or say that. I think that's how walking in on this movie. I don't know that he's like that on every movie what he needed for this character. You create some real mayhem in joker and again without giving away too much but I know a lot of our listeners have already seen joker has become an. He's taken some vigilante action early in the film and become something of a hero to a lot of people who are feeling like angry and resentful and disenfranchised franchised and out of work and you know and they just kind of have a demonstration and erupt. And there's a lot of mayhem. Can you talk a little bit about creating that creating that both the story part of that and then actually literally creating it onset. The movie was primarily shot in New York in and around New York City the Bronx Brooklyn areas that have yet to be totally gentrified. Although I'm sure it's coming The where we shot the the mayhem that you're talking about at the end the very end was Newark. New Jersey on on the street called Market Street. There's a great five block stretch in Newark where we were able to take takeover and Mark Friedberg our production designer. Really able to to to build out What the city would have looked like in? Let's say again nineteen eighty one one And bring in five hundred extras and dress them in clown masks and makeup and others in different things and just You know almost approach shit like a war movie. Okay you people over here. This is the the crew that's going to break windows in this crew over here is going to have fire in the snow and you kind of With stunt coordinators with with your ad department directors. We just created this mayhem. I mean it's fun to do. We shot Nights in Newark probably three nights freezing freezing nights over over the course of that a definitely a fun thing to create But it's also scary five hundred people going crazy and you want to be safe and there's fire around cars flipping and you know things happening but it's it's an electric feeling To shoot it I imagine it. It's almost like shooting a war movie or something before I'd seen gene joker which again I wanNA mention. I liked a lot Just superior clear on the direction from which my questions are are are coming I'm already heard reports like a too violent will cause violence and so the trailers I saw before joker we're trailers trailers like for movies with like action movies of a lot of CGI. So I remember like one scene where somebody's basically run over by like It's it's either either a tank or some kind of like large futuristic iron vehicle and after being run over to gets up and starts running away like this is absurd. The there are so many movies like this in movie theaters. Now where where people just can take any kind of violence and still survive and it's so unrealistic that why would a realistic depiction of the consequences of violence. Be The movie that presents the problem. I know it chuck us as well and you know when we came out in a in a summer after you know a another Rambo movie or John Wick Film and again. I think these films can exist should exist people. There's an audience for them but you talk about celebrating. Violence and joker is woods. Joker is is was guilty of is presenting real world implications of that violence and to us. And maybe this was short-sighted that felt like such a more responsible way of dealing with violence I think in the end of the move by the end of the movie. Seven people die in our film All people that did him wrong wrong. Nobody random dies. He doesn't he doesn't shoot any you know in his head people who who screwed him over whether he's right or wrong that's another question but he's not killing people randomly It's not you know Large level mass killings is a guy I mean this is essentially you talk about the movie being inspired by taxi driver but really we were inspired by a a time of films and I would say there's as much death wish in this film. It's a revenge film as as much as taxi. Driver King of comedy network. One flew over the CUCKOO's nest. All these movies that inspired us But anyway I it just felt really surprising when when we started getting attacked for it being too violent. When you're like wait a minute? Walking Phoenix lost over. Fifty pounds For this role Like he kind of did in the master. And when his shirt is off he looked so undernourished and can you imagine his leg emotionally undernourished and spiritually undernourished that he's under nursing every way like his his his bones jetting out. It's kind of like a metaphor for his the whole his whole existence How did you feel watching him lose that much weight? It's not a healthy thing to do. I I understand his desire to do it for the role and it really is. It's very disturbing to see it very effective in the movie but were you worried about his health when he was doing it and did. Did you feel very responsible Okay so I I should say he did not have any desire to do something I asked them to do. Oh really yeah he he he came to me early in the script it was written. You know that Arthur's I don't use these words but malnourished and wolf like in his appearance or coyote. I don't remember but I was always really important to me that he was bone. Skinny Joaquin came to me early on in those initial meetings. Things we were talking about doing the movie and said you know what do you think. If it's the opposite. What do you think if you sort of like heavy joker just kind of because you know he's on all these medications and sometimes the side side effects of medications as you gain weight and I said no I really think he needs to sort of look? Hungry all the time or as you said just malnourished And he was bummed because he knew how hard it was because like. You said he'd done that before in the master he lost a bunch of weight. I was only concerned because he put it off for for so long. He didn't really start losing weight until I think may or June and we started shooting in September. And saying. When do you start doing it? He's like don't worry. Don't worry I learn how to do this. I've done it before and so I was only concerned with the speed at which he did it. which really he lost fifty two pounds in three months? I think And now I will also say he. He had to lose twenty meaning even Joaquin would say he was twenty pounds overweight at that time for him. So so so you know the twenty. We're like okay. Good now he's back to how he normally is but then to lose. Those thirty was no joke. Tara Phillips thank you so much. It's really been great. Great to have you back on the show. And congratulations on the success of the film. I mean people are very passionate. People are divided about it. But it's provoked a lot of really interesting conversations conversations and for it's a it's a great piece it has definitely yeah is definitely struck a nerve and I really appreciate you having me Ontario. It's a thrill Todd Phillip. Speaking with Terry Gross in January he produced directed and Co wrote. The film joker which is nominated for Eleven Oscars. The Academy Awards ceremony. Is Sunday coming up. We remember actor Kirk Douglas who died Wednesday at the age of one hundred and three also justin. Chang reviews the new Russian movie beanpole poll. I'm Dave Davies. This is fresh air. Women in America have long vied for the highest political office the presidency this week on through line how now things have changed and not for female presidential candidates throughout American history in through line from NPR. The podcast where we go back in time to understand Dan the President Kirk. Douglas a leading man in Hollywood in the nineteen fifties and sixties died Wednesday at his home in Beverly Hills. He was one hundred three years old. Douglas was known for his muscular. Good looks and a voice that often broke with emotion and dramatic scenes. He grew up in poverty. The the son of poor illiterate Jewish emigrants. He started acting in college changed his name and got into movies after serving in the navy in world. War Two he would eventually make more than seventy films winning three Oscar nominations for best actor but never capturing the prize in Nineteen Ninety six accepted a lifetime achievement award at the Academy Awards awards ceremony after coming back from a debilitating stroke his son is the actor Michael Douglas. Here's a sampling of some of Kirk Douglas's memorable performances. He was a trumpet player in the Nineteen Fifty film young man with a horn..
Oscars 2020: Watch the Best Supporting Actress nominees
"Let's start with what will be the first award on Sunday night and that will be actress in a supporting role you gotta go through about ten others before you get to actor in a supporting role and then at the end of the show you'll get actor actress movie or what they call Best Picture and director so we'll start with actress in a supporting role Kathy Bates Richard Jewell Laura Dern marriage story Scarlett Johannson Jo Jo rabbit Florence pew little women Margot Robbie bomb shell share your first Laura Dern marriage story okay I'm gonna take Laura Dern merit story also Megan Scarlett Johannson judge a rabbit and Kay were put in an right there for Megan not for missed you know Margot Roby or Robbie in that bomb shelter that's about the fox news sex was no accusation paying it is Hollywood so you know you know but then again so was already one stain so actress in a leading role Megan your first simply a Revo Herriot Scarlett Johannson merry story Siri thrown in little women Charlie Sperrin bomb shell Renee Zellweger Judy I'm gonna go Renee Zellweger and Judy I'm gonna do the same thing same here all right so there's three of us all in accord actor in a supporting role charity Tom Hanks beautiful day in the neighborhood Anthony Hopkins to popes Al Pacino the Irishman Joe Pesci the Irishman Brad Pitt once upon a time in Hollywood Brad Pitt is going to continue his winning streak I'm gonna go the same okay you lost me on that what is under is winning streak dizzy on a winning streak yeah I think he won whatever last award show it was okay I thought you meant in as far as Academy Awards the only one can mean weren't you would think he would have by now yeah to give anyone just take his shirt off in a he's not in well you took off to and want maybe there's the thing they're going I go to brand also I think he would win it out right but Pacino okay she you're going to cancel each other out for starters yeah act actor in a leading role I'm Bonnie band banners painting glory Leo once upon a time Hollywood Adam driver marriage story Joaquin Phoenix joker Jonathan Pryce the two popes Megan boy that's that's a tough no that's a very easy one some how my mom I think I'm going to go with Joaquin Phoenix yeah well of course yards so is charities online didn't even need to ask lastly directing the Irishman Scorsese joker Todd Phillips nineteen seventeen Sam Mendes once upon a time in Hollywood Quentin and parasite bong joon ho cherry salmon does nineteen seventeen I'll take Sam Mendes nineteen seventeen Quentin Tarantino once upon a time in Hollywood once upon a time in Hollywood if Sam Mendes wins for directing that will be the biggest gap between two directing wins in Oscar history he won in two thousand for American beauty and here it is twenty years later in case you're wondering what the current record is it's a fifteen year gap actor Billy Wilder one for the lost weekend nineteen forty five any apartment in nineteen sixty and one other quick side no we were talking about those swag bags and people thinking that everybody gets one no it's just the twenty five nominees the five nominees in each of the five big categories you may have bought when we were revealed that earlier wow Scarlett's gonna get to because she's up for Best Actress and best supporting actress no one in case she just gets one I give her
Oscars 2020 Preview
"HI everybody. It's Peter Travers. Here here with this special edition of Popcorn which we're calling the Oscar popcorn because this weekend on February ninth exactly everybody will be watching. Being the Oscar telecast on ABC and probably having their own little ballot. Like I have here trying to figure out who's going to win this damn thing and if the person I don't like winds pushed I put my money on. That's what really happens. That's what people ask me on the street. So I'm GonNa take you through these main categories and and we'll see what will win what should win and we can argue. You can find me somewhere and we can argue about it. But I'm going to start with with best supporting actress. Because that's how the Academy Awards those that's always the first award that we say Kathy Bates in Richard Jewel. Laura dern in marriage in story Scarlett Johansson in Joe Rabbit Florence Pew in Little Women and Margot Robbie in bombshell so look. There's it's a lot of good people here and I have to say right at the outset. That Scarlett Johansson is one of those rare actors that has a nomination as best actress. Chris and best supporting actress marriage story for Best Actress in here supporting which usually gets you to win one and that usually that it's usually that one but it's it's not going to happen you know I'm sitting here saying did I read wrong. What happened to Jennifer Lopez and hustlers? Hasn't she been in this game since the release Lisa Hustler she has and yet the academy you bad people have decided that J.. Lo just wasn't Oscar material while you're wrong but look we we have to deal with rats here and I'm going to say that the person who will win in this category is also the person who should win. And that is Laura Burn and Laura dern in marriage story plays a divorce lawyer and she's a tough one and let's think of all the Hollywood people that are voting for this award and how every single one of them I'll wager. A BET has their own divorce lawyer and has been through this process. Maybe more than once. Maybe two we're three times to do it. And they find Laura Dern Dunn's in this movie something spectacular it's also one of the few awards. I think that marriage story story is going to win. But Laura Dern has never won an Oscar. This will be her first time. Everyone loves her. We all love and big little lies and I think this is her time on so let her have it all right. I'm moving onto best supporting actor. Tom Hanks in a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Anthony Hopkins in the two popes Al Al Pacino in the Irishman Joe Pesci in the Irishman and Brad Pitt in once upon a time in Hollywood. Look you're talking to a big Irishman fan here so if it was me saying come up for the gold it would be Joe. Patchy I know Joe Pesci doesn't do any publicity. He basically sticks fix to himself. He's probably tough guy in real life as the gangster that he plays in the Irishman but that performance is amazing and won won his first Oscar for another score says he movie goodfellas where he was the most scary gangster. You can see here. He's kind of quiet dawn. So if I'm I'm giving them it would be Joe Patchy but the academy is giving this award and no one. No one can win. This except Brad Pitt. These other people here Tom Hanks Anthony Hopkins Al Pacino and Peci all have won Oscars so they already have the gold. Do you realize his full career. Brad Brad Pitt has never won an academy award game over people. This is it Brad. You're going to get in once upon a time in Hollywood playing a stuntman. It man playing somebody who's been around the business. I think it's irresistible for Hollywood to say I'm going to reject one of my own. Plus he was great in the movie. You seem to hear my voice that I have a little bit of a problem. Yeah I do. Because that's not a supporting performance at all that his part is the equal who of his Co Star Leonardo DiCaprio's WHO's nominated for best actor. So why is he in that category. I think they want to win. And Brad you might as well prepare repair your speech right now okay. I am now moving onto best actress. Cynthia Haribo in Harriet Scarlett Johansson in marriage story. Sir Sharon in little women. Charlie's Sharon in bombshell and Renee Zellweger in Judy. What Best S. actress award so far from the Golden Globes to the critics choice awards has it Renee Zellweger one? She's won all of them. So is there any possibility ability here for something else. I mean. Look what Charlie. Stern did in bombshell. She not only plays Megan Kelly. The makeup geniuses have made her look exactly exactly like her and Charlie's has talked exactly like are they love bio pics there so she should be really strong. Social Ronin is like twenty five years old. She's he's on her fourth Oscar nomination. This is incredible and Scarlett Johansson. Like I said nominated for best. Supporting actress and Best Actress. Cynthia revolt is playing Harry Tubman and she also wrote the song from the movie which is nominated. That happened to somebody last year. Didn't it yes it was lady. Eating Gaga Lady Gaga was nominated for writing that wonderful song from stars born and his best actress. But what did you win. She won best song and that was it so I have to say that again. I would give this award person late to search for Ronin just because I think to be that young and to be that consistently brilliant is amazing and her performance in little women. Is that good. But it's Rene as I talk about. How Hollywood would love bio-pics this is? Judy Garland that she's playing judy. This is one of their own. Did they ever give. Judy Garland her own Oscar Competitive Competitive Acting Oscar. Never and I think for that reason not only will renee Zellweger win best actress but she will win for Oscar. Judy Garland on never had. It's their way of saying Judy. We love you. We were so stupid not to give it to you. And we're going to give it to Rene in honor of you. This is how Hollywood works. It's really crazy. But if you're betting on this you have to bet crazy. Aright best actor Antonio Banderas in pain and gory. Leonardo di Caprio in once upon a time in Hollywood Adam driver in marriage story what came Phoenix and joker and Jonathan Pryce in the two popes. I look at this category and before I get into. Who Will Win and who should win? I've I've got to say academy what you have against Comedians. And what do you have against Eddie Murphy. That he's not nominated for Dole. Might as my name what you have against Adam Sandler who proved his dramatic chops in uncut gems. Like nobody can believe and yet they have it they only like to give Oscars to actors serious actors who played comic roles. Ause they hate anybody who's making a living as a comic to actually win this war so this year's been going along I've had this feeling that this was Adam drivers to lose that performance in marriage story is one of the best things he's ever done or that I've seen this year and yet there's this other guy and who's that other guy he's Joaquin Phoenix plane joker. Sometimes there's that kind of performance sometimes. There's there's one that just so dominates the screen. That is such an act of immersion of from an actor in a raw. Yeah Joaquin was scary. He was sometimes funny. He was always touching even though he's playing somebody who's totally out of his mind and a lot of this movie his in his mind. What Cain has been nominated several times before and never one Joaquin? This is yours. I can't believe any set of circumstances. Stances if you WANNA bet the whole house on something and somebody to win it's going to be Joaquin Phoenix as best actor for joker game over all right. We're ready now to move on. I'm going to best director now. This is one of the most exciting categories because these people will these particular men and save and because Hollywood as wont of decided that even though there were more women directing movies than ever before four last year. They couldn't find any to nominate which is of course absurd because Greta Gerwig directed little women which is nominated as best picture and they. I thought no I'm just GONNA do five men like we always do what happened. You people sort of learned a couple of years ago when you nominated Greta. GERWIG quick for Ladybird didn't give it to her. But you nominated her. The KADEMI is ninety two years old. Now how many women has given an academy award for directing one. And that's Kathryn Bigelow for hurt locker. Ninety two years one award hang your head in shame name anyway not knocking any of these men that did get nominated. But there's one in there that I would sacrifice for Greta Gerwig but you you try to guess who that is anyway. Here they are. Martin Scorsese the Irishman Todd Phillips. For Joker Sam Mendes for nine thousand nine hundred Seventeen Quentin Tarantino eighteen. O for once upon a time in Hollywood and Bung June hope for parasite every one of these guys you can make a case for. Martin Scorsese Z.. To me is a master the grandmaster who only has one Oscar for directing and then the Irishman is doing some of his best work. Ever Quentin Tarantino. Not No with once upon a time in Hollywood is also a peak form and yet I'm saying this category is going to between two other the directors one of them being the South Korean Vong June Hall for parasite a Foreign Language Film. That seems to have got everybody excited about what's possible and then Sam Mendes for nine hundred seventeen a world war one movie that is constructed to look like it was done in in one continuous. Take how do you resist that. You don't even though I think they would really like to give their best director award worked. Bon John. How it's going to be for Sam Mendes for creating a war movie like no war movie we've ever seen before so sam I think think it's yours but if you're getting out there and you WanNa go to Bung Jun Ho? You know you might do it because there's always a surprise in these contests we can't go. Oh by what the odds are we have to go by sometimes the academy saying I have an instinct for this. I have a feeling this is the right way to go all right last category. Are we ready best picture of the year Ford versus Ferrari the Irishman Joe. Joe Rabbit Joker her little women marriage story nineteen seventeen once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite here is is the one you know every year I do this. It's between one or two movies this year. I can't reduce anything to to the Irishman my estimation a classic one for the ages. Martin Scorsese. Ed Is Best Robert De Niro Pacino. Joe Patchy making a mob movie about old-age age about the end of a mobster. This is the punishment that they get for the lives they live. There's nobody in their lives there alone. It's a tragedy Quentin went and Tarintino. Once upon a time in Hollywood is writing about Hollywood in the sixties and about a time that he thought was the last creative burst of Hollywood Hollywood and doing that. Nineteen seventeen again the World War One movie shot to make it look like. It's one continue steak and parasite a movie about a Korean Rian family in which they exploited the people they work for and then are exploited by the people working for them it is a classic. These are four incredible classics. So what am I gonNA do. What am I going to tell you? What's out there that you have to say? This is the winner and I'm going to go with with all excuses. No excuses in fact to my love for the Irishman. But I think this is the year of Quentin Tarantino. I I think once upon a time in Hollywood being a love letter to Hollywood and being voted on by people who live and work in Hollywood Quentin Tarantino despite right brilliant work with pulp fiction inglorious bastards reservoir dogs Django unchained has never won a Best Picture Oscar or a best director Oscar. Never it's never happened. What better time than now? When he saying Hollywood I love you? I think it's time Hollywood to say to Quentin Tarantino. I love you back back. So you've got it watch the show and afterwards we'll have a discussion.
Oscar Nominations 2020: The Complete List
"The twenty twenty Oscar nominations are out this year it's all about Todd Phillips is joker which leads the pack with eleven nods including Best Actor for walking Phoenix in fact the sing real movie is on track to match the records of Titanic the lord of the rings the return of the king and Ben Hur by winning eleven total awards as expected from Mars also include Martin Scorsese Irishman Sam Mendes's World War one epic nineteen seventeen and Quentin Tarantino star studded once upon a time in Hollywood are right behind joker with ten nods each side became the first ever south Korean film to be nominated for Best Picture getting six nods along with Joe Joe rabbit little women and a marriage story of course there are a lot of snobs first and foremost women were totally snubbed in the best direct the category for the second year in a row despite great movies like little women and the farewell coming out last year Jennifer Lopez in get a nod for best supporting actress in hustlers even after scoring Screen Actors Guild critics choice and golden globe nominees and Adam Sandler was almost unrecognizable in this type of role on jams and fans are rooting for him to get his first Oscar nomination thanks to the road but he's not on the list
Oscars 2020: Joker leads pack with 11 nominations
"Joker leaves the Oscar nominations with eleven APR taming correspondent margins are letter has a run down of some of the big nominees for this year's Academy Awards bring me now can you introduce me as joker joker gets a Best Picture nomination with star Joaquin Phoenix up for Best Actor and Todd Phillips up for Best Director the Irishman once upon a time in Hollywood in nineteen seventeen have ten nominations each including Best Picture the other Best Picture nominees are Jo Jo rabbit for versus Ferrari little women marriage story and parasites the Oscars are February ninth in Los Angeles I'm arches
Oscars 2020: Joker leads pack with 11 nominations
"Joker leaves the Oscar nominations with eleven APR taming correspondent margins are letter has a run down of some of the big nominees for this year's Academy Awards bring me now can you introduce me as joker joker gets a Best Picture nomination with star Joaquin Phoenix up for Best Actor and Todd Phillips up for Best Director the Irishman once upon a time in Hollywood in nineteen seventeen have ten nominations each including Best Picture the other Best Picture nominees are Jo Jo rabbit for versus Ferrari little women marriage story and parasites the Oscars are February ninth in Los Angeles I'm arches
The Oscar noms are out
"All right. Let's just dive into the nominees for the Oscars. Isa Ray and John Show announced them at the early hour of five eighteen. Am this morning. And now I'm going to read them to you right now. Oh okay the best picture. Nominees are Ford versus Ferrari the Irishman Joe. Joe Rabbit Joker little women marriage story in nineteen seventeen once upon a time in Hollywood and parasite for parasite this is actually a history making nomination. This is the the first ever. KOREAN BAST picture nominee. Okay here's the directing. Nominations Scorsese is nominated for the Irishman Todd Phillips Phillips's nominated for Joker Sam Mendez is nominated for directing nineteen seventeen Tarantino nominated for once upon a time in Hollywood and Vong June. How is needed for parasite just in case? You didn't catch it. Those are all male directors. No female directors got nominated this year. Okay here's the nominations for actress in a leading role Cynthia Areva has nominated for Harriet Scarlett. Johansson nominated for marriage story. See your shirt. Ronin women is nominated for little women. She's actually the youngest four time Oscar nominee in history. Now she's only twenty five. She's gotten four nominations. Pretty Cool also nominated donated. Is Charlie's thrown for bombshell and Renee Zellweger for Judy. Who is my personal favorite? I mean everyone in this category I I think is fantastic but judy is for some reason. My favorite movie of this Oscar season I just. I don't know somethings like broken in my brain because as I feel like I'm the only one that thinks judy is the best movie of all time but I fully acknowledged that my taste in movies is you know not normal anyway now for actor in a leading role we've got Antonio Banderas for Pain and Glory Leo DiCaprio Aka. LDC is nominated for once. It's part time in Hollywood. Adam drivers nominated for marriage story. Walking Phoenix is nominated for Joker and Jonathan. Pryce is nominated for the two popes oops. I'm sorry we're going to get to the snaps later but I have to say I can't believe Adam Sandler didn't get the best actor in a leading role nomination like come on uncut gems tmz is so good The two popes guy beat out. Adam Sandler Tam okay now for best actress in a supporting role we've got Kathy Bates dates for her part. In Richard Jewel. People are actually talking about how her nomination is one of the surprises of this year's nominees. Laura DERN got nominated from marriage story Scarlett Johansson has her second nomination for this supporting role in Joe. Joe Rabbit. Florence PUGH got nominated for a little women and Margot Robbie got an obligation for bombshell. Of course we all know. I'm a big flow pugh Stan. I mean hope she wins this category so bad. I'm at the point if my like Phantom of Florence Pew that have started following like Florence. PUGH twitter stanton accounts. I can't wait to see her. And Zach braff on the red carpet. Please please take Zach Braff to the Oscars come on Florence. Please all right now for best actor in a supporting role. We've got Brad Pitt for once upon a time in Hollywood al Al Pacino for the Irishman. Joe Patchy for the Irishman. Tom Hanks for a beautiful day in the neighborhood and Anthony Hopkins for the two popes. So I'm I'm not gonna read the rest of the categories You can look them up online if you want but the big winner for the nominations at least is the joker which has walked walked with eleven nominations. Next place is the Irishman which has ten nominations nineteen seventeen also got ten nominations. So did once upon a time. I'm in Hollywood denominations and behind that Gioja rabbit got six total nominations. Little women got six total. Nominations seem with marriage story in parasite recite which also both got six
The Return of
"Welcome to the frame. I'm John Horn. It's Academy award the nominations mornings so we're out in the field when the lowest feelers bureau of the New York Times with a carpet bagger Kaya can kyle. I brought a Muffin. Thanks for having us over where this morning. Yes I'm eagerly consuming that Muffin. I need all of a sudden it's like can get after. Today's crack of Dawn Oscar. Nominations we have both been up since very early this morning. And even though I think we're still relatively awake and conscious I still think these nominations don't make a lot of sense. So where do you WANNA start. Let's talk about the movies that didn't get any love. I was shocked that the farewell did not make it into the best picture race. And that no actors from the farewell or parasite or nominated. Yeah I loved the farewell which came out this past summer. I would've loved to see Aquafina or Josh Suzanne who plays her grandmother in that movie get in unfortunately. Yeah Yeah it just missed out on everything. Eight twenty four which distributed the farewell to very hip indies studio. But they haven't shown an ability to get any of their summer movies ever into the Oscar race in a major way. They had the same problem with eighth grade and first reformed last year and now the farewell. Meanwhile though you've got neon a sort of comparable tae twenty four which parasite six Oscar nominations no in parasite. It is not only nominated for best picture. It's also up for best international feature and best director for June Ho if it wins the best picture prize and and I gotta say it has a shot. It will become the first foreign language movie to win that top prize. But let's look a little bit more closely at who didn't make the cut so bond Jun Mojo was nominated for director. Greta Gerwig wasn't and Todd Phillips was for joker. Joker had the most nominations with eleven. How do we start to talk? Talk about joker. Well I don't know I feel like we will never stop talking about jokers thing I it's been that sort of movie since the beginning running since it was announced since people got with its themes and especially since it became a billion dollar grosser at the box office which is crazy for a movie. Yes is about a famous comic book character but it doesn't have action scenes. It's Graham it's upsetting and now it's a best picture and best director nominee is. Is it going to win those awards. I don't think so. Maybe I'm protecting myself from thinking so I do think though that Joaquin Phoenix is near lock for best actor one of the first acting. Nominations that was announced. This morning was for best supporting actress. Kathy Bates in Richard Jewel. I don't think anybody saw that nomination coming. And it did seem to suggest what was going to happen for the next nineteen acting nominees and that is only one one person of color. Cynthia Repo played. Harriet Tubman was going to get a nomination. Yes initiate to Kathy Bates but the fact that she made it in and Jennifer Lopez didn't for Haas players. I think that's one of the big stories of this morning. I personally love Hustler's I thought Jennifer Lopez was giving fantastic robust movie star performance. It's in that film for some reason. While for a couple of reasons it just did not seem to catch on as far as that award season reconceptualise ation that needs to happen. When you've got a a big hit and then you want to prove that you more than just a hit the academy with the exception of little women? This year were turned an awfully cold shoulder to female ensembles and female all directors for that matter. There's there's quite a few nominated in best documentary but almost nowhere else including the big best director category. I just it. It bothers me that I feel like stories that are made by women that star women are not afforded. The same sort of canonical. Wait we so easily give similar stories about men. We're talking with cow Buchanan from the New York Times about today's Oscar nominations when I was at the La Times before I came to KPCC along with a team of reporters spent a year investigating the membership of the academy. At that time we found that it was ninety. Four percent percents Caucasian. The median age was sixty two. It was seventy-seven percent male in the years. Since and certainly on the heels of the Hashtag Egg Oscarssowhite the academy has gone to incredible steps to try to diversify its membership but the academy like the Mafia. You're in for life life. Do you think the voting today really represents that older demographic in the kind of reluctance to embrace anything outside of parasite that feels like a modern movie. Well I think that's the thing about the Oscars and that's the reason we keep talking about it. Every year they make steps forward they make steps backward record. It is a big organization several thousand people so as much as you diversify it. There will be diverse opinions. You know last year. We had add Oscar history with them like Black Panther where it won best costume design best production design first time. A black woman had one those things you also had green book win which many consider to be sort of a retrograde racial issues claptrap. I think the academy is big enough to to be able to stay in both of those points of view and it's worth noting that the academy doesn't really run the business in any way it is only recognizing the movies that we're getting made and the jobs that are being given by people who run Hollywood today. La Mayor Eric. Garcetti unveiled an initiative to try to promote lat next talent he hopes up to double Latino Representation in Hollywood by twenty thirty. But what is it gonNA take for the industry to start making more diverse film so that the Oscars can recognize more verse films while the Oscars don't make movies but they affect the movies that get made and I think it's important to talk about that because this is sort of a cycle where all of these things feed each other movies that are greenland movies that are cast with certain people were made by certain people. They're made that way often. And because of what we are told important by the Oscars as much as the Oscars sort of say. Well we can only do so much given the films that Hollywood gives us. The Hollywood gave them plenty of amazing films. This year that were sort of disregarded out of hand I think because we don't again ascribe the same wait to certain stories. Outside of white men doing violent dramatic weighty things Kyle Buchanan is the carpet Arpey bagger The New York Times Kyle. Thanks for having us over to the Los Villas Bureau of the New York Times. I'm glad you guys could come up next on the frame we hear from Oscar nominee. Cynthia revox Vivo and Renee Zellweger. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John Horn British actress. Cynthia Revox is an academy award nominee for her performance in Harry and she's the only person of color among this this year. Twenty acting nominees. The movie directed and Co Written by Casey Lemons tells the story of how Harriet Tubman escaped from slavery and became a heroic. ROIC abolitionist when I spoke with a revox about playing tubman. I asked her how shooting in Virginia. During a cold autumn helped her get into character. It was sort of imperative for me to try and do as much as I possibly could as authentically as could do it so I opted out of the wetsuit opted out of any like extra extra warming things was doing the activities just because I didn't want to I don't want to feel comfortable really I I liked the uncomfortable of the of the work that I was doing. Because I felt like it made me I guess it gave me the space to be more connected to her connected to what what she may have gone through So that the reaction was genuine and felt real. So yeah I do. I do think it really helps in doing these. Actions to to be connected connected to the
The joke’s on us: Joker dominates this year’s Oscar nominations
"Joker leaves the Oscar nominations with eleven A. P. entertainment correspondent margins are allowed a has a run down of some of the big nominees for this year's Academy Awards bring me now can you introduce me as joker joker gets a Best Picture nomination with star Joaquin Phoenix up for Best Actor and Todd Phillips up for Best Director the Irishman once upon a time in Hollywood in nineteen seventeen have ten nominations each including Best Picture the other Best Picture nominees are Jo Jo rabbit for versus Ferrari little women marriage story and parasites the Oscars are February ninth in Los Angeles I'm arches are let off
Oscars 2020: snubs, surprises and snippets you may have missed
"Some more of those Oscar nominations to pass along to you they started dancing this a little while ago on Hollywood and now we have the names for Best Director the nominations Martin Scorsese the Irishman Todd Phillips for the joker Sam Mendes for directing nineteen seventeen Quentin Tarantino once upon a time in Hollywood and mon jun hole for parasite those Best Director nomination as Best Actress Cynthia hero for Harriet Scarlett Johannson marriage story saris ronin little women no I'm not pronouncing that right that's why dean Richards will be here after eight Charlize Theron for bomb shell Renee Zellweger for Judy and the Best Actor in a emanations Antonio Banderas pain glory then I read the Capreol for his role of once upon a time in Hollywood Adam driver for marriage story Joaquin Phoenix the joker and Jonathan Pryce the two
"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"DOT EDU slash podcast. It's just me getting crazy out there. The city is going crazy and the main character is becoming increasingly unhinged in the movie v Joker which won two Golden Globes for best actor in a movie drama for Walking Phoenix and best original score. The movie just came out on DVD. Blu Lou Ray and four K.. Joker was produced directed and Co written by our guest Todd Phillips who also directed the hangover films. Joker is an urgent urgent story sort of for the villain in the Batman Comics and movies. But the movie isn't a Comic Book Story. It said in Gotham city in nineteen eighty one. But Gotham looks very much like Manhattan. In Nineteen eighty-one. The main character. Arthur Fleck played by Joaquin. Phoenix is a troubled man with a history of serious is mental health problems. It's Arthur's dream to be a standup comic at the beginning of the film Arthur dresses in clown costume and makeup because he works for an agency Z.. That rents out clowns for parties occasions. One night on the subway. He's attacked by three young white men in suits. He defends himself with a gun an and kills them. There's so much. Crime in the city and people are feeling so victimized that Arthur becomes a hero to a lot of angry people and and those people start wearing clown masks in tribute to him. Meanwhile the city is so broke. It's cutting social services and for Arthur. That means he's forced off his meds because his assistance has been cut the deterioration of the city and of Arthur's mental health feed off each other in a disastrous way. Todd Phillips Welcome back to fresh air joker has really divided audiences and critics. But it's don't fantastically at the a box office on one other people who think this is a terrific film and a very serious film. You said that you made the character joker in order to make a serious movie movie. That's kind of about a comic book character so you could get a bit budget. It was it was a way to sneak a real movie into the studio system under the guise of a comic book film. Tell us more about that. Started think films that I grew up on group loving that how hard it is to get those movies made nowadays and how not just because studios. Don't make them people. Don't WANNA show up to them necessarily and I started looking around at the state. The movie business about what people are showing up to clearly superhero films have taken over the comic book genre. Didn't even exist. When I was younger right there were there were horror movies? reas- comedies romantic comedies dramas. But now you know the the comic book movies its own Genre and when you're making a film you know whether it's good or bad It takes you two to three years and it's disappointing when audiences don't show up and and so it to me. It was a way of kind of wrapping the movie in A way of cutting through the fog so to speak you know nowadays with net flicks and all the content. That's out there. Films really have to kind of cut through all the noise to get people to show up to the theaters so it really started as an experiment so to speak is like well. You know maybe you could get one of those kind of deep dive character. Study movies done nowadays in the studio system. If you I guess disguise it as a comic book film not that it was a trick we were playing. It was just something of boy you could do. A character study if it was about one of those characters that makes sense. Yeah does to me. So joker is always described as an origin origin story for the character of the joker. But you know the movie's called Joker not the joker. It seems to me like you're hedging a little bit. It's like yeah. Akis joker he's not necessarily the joker well I mean I think `ambiguities is a fun part of this film and and I think films in general and we do like putting little things out there if you actually see the screenplay we wrote on the cover it says joker and under it says N. origin not the the and it's not like a hedging our bets as much as it is saying you know joke around and how much you know about the character But he's famous for are not having an origin story. He's famous for saying in one of the comic books of killing joke. Think where he says. I prefer pass to be multiple choice. We knew we were going to have some pushback back from or we thought we were GONNA have some pushback from Comic Book Fan Saying Well Hang on a minute you know this is sacrilegious so to speak. You can't give origin to joker. That's that's part of the fun. One thing about joker so the film is set in the early eighties in Gotham which has been to be Kinda like New York in the early eighties. You're I think. Ten or eleven in nineteen eighty one in the film there is like a garbage strike. There's tons of garbage piling up around the city super rats. Let's have infested the city. There's cuts in social services unemployment anger hostility. The mayor's declared a state of emergency. What's your connection? The two thousand nine hundred eighty one and Manhattan and also to the decay and despair and the crime and poverty and garbage garbage and chaos. Uso stay with Gotham in well. I'm in my connection to it. Is You know having grown up in New York. I wasn't in in Manhattan when I was ten or eleven. At that point we had moved to Long Island but my mother worked in the city. And oftentimes I'd go in with her to work When I had a cool day off and she didn't we didn't have a babysitter? 'cause you know. I grew up with a single mom and two older sisters. So oftentimes go with my mom and I do remember the the city back at that time and it feeling like I'm kind of a broken down city on the brink and to us it felt like I say uh Scott Silver and I who wrote the script it felt like the right setting for creating a character like Arthur flex slash joker We wanted that kind of hopeless feeling. We wanted everything to be kind of coming down on. Arthur the mounds of garbage everywhere. I mean these are obviously it was based on a real time in New York there were real garbage strikes in New York. New York's always had rat problems. I remember seeing the cover of the New York. Post one saying super rats So you know you pick and choose and you take things from your past us and of course you create new things and you build off of it. Let's talk about your vision of joker the character of Arthur. He initially paints his face like a clown because he's employed by an agency that basically rents out clowns palm like for your child's Party or for like the hospital children's ward but for for reasons. I won't explain. WanNa give away too much stuff. You know he loses his job but he continued to paint his face and he has serious mental health problems. There's there's a history of mental health problems in his family and he soon off his meds because he can no longer afford them and the city No longer help him. 'cause they're shutting down social services and his mental health deteriorates as the movie goes on. Why did you want want this joker to have a mental health disorder order and well? Is it a specific disorder that you've given him well. It wasn't that we wanted him to necessarily have a mental health disorder. What really we wanted to do? And what really the whole m o of the film was. Let's make a comic book film where we run everything through as realistic a lens as possible. So so why does joker have a white face and green hair. Well in the Comic Book He fell into a VAT of acid. That didn't feel very real to us if you fell into a vat of acid acid. I don't know that your skin would turn white and your hair would be green so we came up. We sort of backwards engineered everything. The mental illness was also a thing of going will a little bit like. Where does his laugh? Come From and if you see the movie realize he has a condition joke. You know the the joker character in the comic book world is famous for the green hair. The white faced. Ace the laugh so we really just wanted to give everything Real world reasons so so the deteriorating mental health gives that was okay. So that's a different question two parts. The first thing is we didn't ever really discussed specifically with Joaquin. When I say we again me and Joaquin didn't didn't really discuss what we want to put a specific label on what his mental illnesses outside of his affliction that gives them the laugh which is something that's called caused from Head trauma early on in life it which is a real thing you know nowadays it's called. PBA PSEUDO bullbar affect But back then. I don't know that Stephen had that name for it. But it's a real condition so we thought once we found that condition. Okay that answers that as far as the mental health thing you know we really wanted to make a movie that says something A statement if you will on these modern times Yes it takes place in nineteen eighty one the fictional city of Gotham. But we wrote it in two thousand seventeen in New York City and oftentimes you know movies are mirrors and they reflect what's going on whenever they take place and and that was something Scott and I really was important to us that we are dressing things that we feel or I felt were going on in the world in two thousand sixteen and Seventeen is we were writing it You know we all know the big changes in this country. That were happening them. I I can tell you you. When Obama was president we wrote three hangover? Movies went when everything changed. Suddenly things felt darker You know anyway. So the the mental illness to us was a lot about what you hear about when social services get cut what what happens to these people. We really thought it was important to shine a light on the system. You know I think Like a lot of people the system's broken Okun and why not use a film to make a comment on that and in that sense one. He can't take his meds anymore because the system is broken. There's a lot of damage. I make sure that is done as a result and not just to him. Yeah I mean really the the real world implications of these things it just felt like a great thing to explore if we really going to turn the comic book Genre side down or or or maybe. That's too big a way of saying it but if we're really gonNA dive into that sandbox you know let's do something let's make something meaningful The hangover movies that you're famous for our comedies and take joker although the main character sees himself as a comedian this film's far from.
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"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"A lot of weight for roles I mean they both get very deep into to the characters. They're playing but did did they. Sync up yeah. I mean as much as you want. Murray and Arthur to sync up I mean th they didn't really have to be in sync. That scene is one giant cringe really dislike and end so that you don't necessarily want them to be in lockstep with each other but yeah it was it was it was amazing to witness. Somebody like Deniro's approach as opposed to somebody like Joaquin's approach just in general But again I've seen that before with with actors just not with Robert Deniro which was just mind blowing to me. Can you describe anything about those approaches without violating their confidence. I mean you know. Joaquin has a lot of questions and really likes to go really deep on stuff. I jokingly said this about Joaquin to his face so I I could say it. Now I say Joaquin is the tunnel at the end of the light. Just when you think you know you're you've you've cracked there's a whole nother layer to kind of peel back And Deniro at least again. I can only speak with my experience on this movie with these two characters much more matter of fact about it kind of gets it on the first bounce understands who Murray is and where he comes from an okay. It's been on the air for thirty years. It's just two different approaches but again I just want to preface that by saying or wouldn't say that I think that's how Joaquin is on this movie. I don't stories like that on every movie what he needed for this character. Joaquin Phoenix lost over fifty pounds For this role Like he kind of did in the master and when his shirt is off he looks so undernourished and new imagine he's like emotionally undernourished and spiritually spiritually undernourished that he's under nurse in every way like his his his bones jetting out. It's kind of like a metaphor for his whole his whole existence. How did you feel watching him lose that much weight? It's not a healthy thing to do. I understand his desire to do it for the role and it really is. It's very disturbing to see. It's very effective in the movie. But were you worried about his health when he was doing it. And did you feel very responsible Okay so I I should say he did not have any desire to do. That was something I asked them to do. L. Really Yeah. He came to me early in the script. It it was written. You know that Arthur's if we use these words but malnourished and Wolf like his appearance you know or coyote. I don't remember but it was always really important to me that he was bone. Skinny Joaquin came to me early on in those initial meetings. We were talking about doing the movie and said you know what do you think it's the opposite. What do you think if you sort of like heavy joker like you know just kind of because you know? He's on all these medications and sometimes the side effects of medications that you gain weight and I is it and I really think he needs to sort of look. Hungry all the time or as you said just malnourished And he was bummed because he knew how hard it was because like you said he'd done that before and the master lost a bunch of weight. I was only concerned because he put it off for so long. He didn't really start losing weight. Until I think doc may or June and we started shooting in September and I kept saying. When did you start doing it? He's like don't worry. Don't worry how to do this. Have done it before. And so I was only concerned zone with the speed at which he did it which really he loves fifty two pounds in three months. I think And now I will also say he he. He had to lose twenty meaning even Keane would say he was twenty pounds overweight at that time for him. So so you know the twenty. We're like okay. Good now he's back did how he normally is but then to lose. Those thirty was no joke. Tara Phillips thank you so much. It's really been great to have you back on the show. And congratulations on the success. The film I mean people very passionate people are divided about it but it's provoked a lot of really interesting conversations and for it's A. It's a great piece that has definitely had has definitely struck a nerve and I really appreciate you having me Ontario. Thrill Todd Phillips produced directed directed and Co wrote joker which comes out on. Dvd Blu Ray and four K.. Tomorrow at we take a short break jazz critic. Kevin Whitehead will review a new album by Michael Formanek. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from K.. Bucks bound in support of the David Gilkey. NBA ULITSA Manga Memorial Fund established to strengthen NPR's commitment to training and protecting journalists in high risk environments. Hi It's Terry. 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"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Of those things that came out came out before people saw the movie. I don't really believe people think that after seeing the film but I do think it's divisive. I think you know they're set famous quote with sometimes you know Art Comforts the disturb and disturbs. The comfortable. And I think You know choker tended to do that with some people to us. It was really. It was surprising the reaction because didn't feel like by making a movie about something. You're celebrating it you know. Representation presentation is not endorsement. So it just. It always felt very off to us before I'd seen joker which again I want to mention. I liked a lot On just two Superior Clear on the direction from which my questions are are coming I'd already heard reports but like as a too violent while a cause violence and so the trailers I saw before joker we're trailers like for movies with like action movies of a lot of Siegi so I remember like one scene where somebody's basically run over by like It's it's either a tank or some kind of like large futuristic Iran vehicle and after being run over to gets up and starts running away and I thought like this is absurd. The there are so many movies. He's like this and movie theaters. Now where where people just can take any kind of violence and still survive and it's so unrealistic that why would realistic depiction the consequences of violence. Be The movie that presents the problem. I know it shocked us as well. You know when we came out in a in a summer after another Rambo movie or John Wick Film and again. I think these films can exist should exist people. There's an audience for them. But you you talk about celebrating. Violence and joker is woods. Joker is is was guilty of is presenting real world implications of that violence and to us. And maybe this short-sighted that felt like such a more responsible way of dealing with violence I think in the end of the move by the end of the movie. Seven people die in our film All people that did him wrong. Nobody random dies. He doesn't he doesn't shoot any you know his head people who who screwed him over whether he's right or wrong that's another question. But he's not killing people randomly It's not you so Large level mass killings as a guy. I mean this is essentially about the movie being inspired by taxi driver but really we were inspired by a a time of films and I would say there's as much death wish in this film. It's a revenge film as much as a taxi. Driver King of comedy network. One flew over the CUCKOO's looseness all these movies that inspired us But anyway I it just felt really surprising does when we started getting attacked for it being too violent. When you're like wait wait a minute? It's interesting that you say that the movie is so much about you. Know empathy in the lack of empathy in the world. And then your movie comes out and people a- so divided added about it and there's so much anger between the two sides the people who love it and the people who hate it and think it's a reprehensible movie like everything is so divisive now. Yes yes how did you react to that. How did you feel about like witnessing is really divisive reaction to your movie like on on Twitter or oh you know well? Luckily I'm not on twitter right right right those able to avoid all that but I definitely I definitely got heard back about it from friends friends of mine that are on twitter. That love to report when you're trending for some reason But but yeah no it was. It's a tough thing to to go through. You know because because we know are we knew our intentions in in making the movie It kinda bummed us out that it was so divisive but it does seem to be that we live in an age of outrage rage. Now when people look for things to be outraged about and they're going to be outraged. Just about that comment. Probably you know it's it's it's become a thing The good news. Is You know the movie obviously struck a chord and people were having discussions about it and arguing about its merits important about outrage outrage. Yeah it really is so yeah. It was not lost on us but it was something to go through for sure and I. It was stressful but it was also at the same time. Luckily the movie was released. Luckily most people sought for what it is a movie about about childhood trauma. A movie about the lack of love in the world a movie about the loss of empathy in society. Most people saw that for what it is. I can't tell hell you the amount of emails or messages. I got on on my instagram of people talking about how what a wonderful depiction of mental illness. Yes it is you know the the thing that seemed to resonate most with people is when Arthur writes in his notebook. He writes The worst part about having a mental illness. People expect. Expect you to behave as if you don't and that really spoke to people that have it because it's your suffering but you're not wearing a cast your suffering but that you're not in a wheelchair so people think what's wrong with you. You're fine and I think that really connected and and resonated with people in a meaningful way so so that kind of thing makes it worth it and not not that that that it erases everything else but you know it it it connected with the people that had to connect with. Let's take another short break here and then we'll be right back if you're just joining US my guests Todd Phillips Director of Joker. We'll be right back. This is fresh air support for this podcast. The CAST and the following message come from the American Jewish World Service working together for more than thirty years to build a more just and equitable world learn more at Aj J. W. S. dot. Org Did you get a smart speaker for a gift for the holidays. Well consider it the gift that keeps on giving right because it can help you keep up with the news I just say play. NPR to hear your local NPR station. And all your favorite. NPR shows as well. This is fresh air. And if you're just joining us my guest is Todd Phillips Director of Joker. He also directed the hangover films. You've said that there are a lot of films and filmmakers who were influential on you. In the making of joker ochre but adding the one that really stands out the most Scorsese in terms of impart how the film looks. You know. You've got Deniro in the movie. And he was in taxi driver and King of comedy. There are some shots and some things that are so Reminiscent of shots in taxi driver. And even there's two times times like at the end of taxi driver Travis. Bickel puts his finger to his head as if the finger as a gun and then within some he kind of pulls the trigger. And this you you know imaginary gun so another lex quasi references the fact that There's a a late night tonight. Show kind of variety show that's Arthur's Arthur's mother's favourite show and offers grown up watching it and he loves it too they watch it every night together and in King of Comedy Scorsese's film Deniro as is the obsessive fan of the late night. Show which in that movie is is hosted by someone who play by Jerry. Lewis and Deniro kidnaps the Jerry Lewis Character. Her And and near goal is to be on that show himself and in joker The joker character gets on that that late night show that Deniro for very misguided reasons on on the hosts part so just WanNa play a short clip. And this is you know so So you know Arthur. The Joaquin Phoenix character. The the joker character shows up after his invited on the show and he's wearing so you know joker makeup and and you'll look the full luck and the producer of the show. The Fred de Cordova type laid by Marc Marc Maron is like horrified and the Johnny Carson type played by Deniro's kind of like. Oh No we can make this work. This could be fun. The audience will enjoy it. I think think there's one more thing we need to set up an town. I'm GonNa let you do it and give away as much as you want to about Why they're suspicious of him dressed as a clown well? Basically that day there happened to be a big Protest Planet City Hall. So there's a lot of people dressed up as clowns in this joker look which was of course inspired by him early early on this description given of of him from those initial Subway killing so you'll hear them reference you'll hear Marc Maron reference this sort of protests. That are going on in the city city in how somebody actually that day. Not Not by Arthur but was killed by a policeman in a confrontation. So here's that scene between The host De Niro whose name is Murray. The producer played by Marc Maron and Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur joker. What's with the face the mean you part of the protests? No No. Please don't believe anything Sunday Sunday because my act for your act and you hear what happened on the subway some clown got kills wherever that either with it you know I had. Yeah this one tell the audience go crazy. If you put this guy I mean maybe maybe for EPA SEGMENT G. It's GonNa work schoolwork going to go with Marie. Murray couple of rules no no cursing wolf color material. We do a clean show. Okay go on right. After Dr South I loved our good. It could come and get you good luck. Thanks very good one small thing when you bring me out. Can you introduce me as joker. What's wrong with you real name? That's what you call me on the show. A joker do you remember. I don't know if you say so. Can you don't jokers thank Mary okay. So that's a scene. From joker my guess is the director and Co writer. Todd Phillips what was it like to direct both Deniro and Phoenix Walking Phoenix together with a both able to arrive at the place they needed. Did to be In terms of getting the character in the same way at the same time you know like some after like to take a lot of take some actors go to extremes to get roles both phoenix and Deniro have Either lost or gained.
"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"I think music is such a good representation. Representations of what we think is going on in his mind it's very dissonant it's very disturbing zoning Drumbeat it sounds like Sounds like a death march or storm is coming. I Miss Coming. Yeah interesting things about the that piece right. There is You know normally when you make a film or at least what I've done normally as you make the film and you start sending scenes off to the composer and they start. You know writing music for the scene that that you've vetted together but with Hiller. When I contacted her to do the film I asked her to just read the script which she really responded to and I said I want to do something different would you would? Would you just write music based on what you read. I'm talking. This is five months four months before we started filming and she started sending me pieces of music just just based on the feeling she got from the script and as I said to her the music and Arthur's head so we were able to have that music when we were shooting. which is you know? I've never had before. Most people don't do it that way and it was really Beneficial to us and it was liberating to us and it was it sort of infected acted and affected the set in a great way. It was playing in the camera operators ear. It was playing for Joaquin so he was. You know dancing to that piece of music doc. In that scene was really really special. Did it help you establish the tone of the movie in your mind. Oh for sure help I mean just. It's it's just a shortcut as music often is in movies and for us you know I was. I mean I was playing that music all day every day on set to the point where it was it was probably offensive and most of the crew and it wasn't a happy place to be around and and just that music running through the day Or if we would watch playback we would play the music or we would rehearse her secene. We'd be playing the music It just it just kind of seeped Wayne the DNA of the film and the rhythm and the pace of the film. You you create some real mayhem in joker and again without giving away too much but I know a lot of our listeners have already seen joker has become an. He's taken some vigilante action early in the film and become something of a hero to a lot of people who are feeling like angry and resentful and disenfranchised is an out of work and you know and they just kind of have a demonstration and erupt. And there's a lot of mayhem. Can you talk a little bit about it. Creating that creating that both the story part of that and then actually literally leak creating it on. The movie was primarily shot in New New York in and around New York City the Bronx Brooklyn areas that have yet to be totally gentrified. Although I'm sure it's coming The where we shot the mayhem that you're talking about at the end. The very end was Newark. New Jersey on on the street called Market Street. There's like a great five block stretch in Newark where we were able to take over for and Mark Friedberg our production designer really able to to to build out What the city would have looked like in? Let's say again nineteen eighty one And bring in five hundred extras and dress them in clown masks and make up and others in different things and just You know almost approach it like a war movie. Okay you people over here. This is the the crew that's going to break windows in this crew over here is going to have fire in the snow and you kind of With stunt coordinators with your Ad Indeed Department and assistant directors. We just created this mayhem. I mean it's fun to do. We shot Nights in Newark probably three nights freezing nights nights over over the course of that a definitely a fun thing to create But it's also scary. 'cause you five hundred people going crazy and you want to be safe. And there's fire around in cars flipping and you know things happening but it's it's an electric feeling To shoot it I imagine it. It's almost like shooting war movie or something. My guess is Todd Phillips who directed and Co wrote joker which comes out on DVD BLU ray and four K.. Tomorrow we'll talk more. After a break and jazz critic. Kevin Whitehead will review a new album by Michael Formanek. I'm Terry Gross. And this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from Uber. Uber is committed to safety eighty and to continuously raising the bar to help make safer journeys for everyone for starters. All drivers are background checked before their first ride and screened on an ongoing basis and now uber has introduced a brand new safety feature called ride. Check which can detect if a trip goes unusually off course and check in to provide support to learn more about Uber's I commitment to safety visit Uber Dot com slash safety. Let's get back to my interview with Todd. Phillips who directed produced and Co wrote Joker which won two Golden Globes last night for best actor in a dramatic film that went to walking Phoenix and for best score the movie comes out on. Dvd Tomorrow Phillips Phillips also directed the hangover films the hangover movies that you're famous for our comedies and joker occur although the main character sees himself as a comedian. This film is far from funny Very grave movie and you. You said that you made a drama and part because it's hard to make a comedy nowadays torture right comedy with woke culture and like you know comics very afraid to offend. You can't argue argue with thirty million people on twitter. Have you gotten pushback for your comedies. Or were you just thinking of other people who had a no in that quote of mind that that I was really referring to very specifically maybe ten or eleven things me and the writer were talking about that. Were in. Let's it's a old school or the hangover film that you literally couldn't do nowadays that I wouldn't do nowadays by the way and probably shouldn't so it was more about that it wasn't a it wasn't a statement about comedy in general We're really misinterpret. If that's only misinterpreted I know in the problem is I don't have a twitter account to set the record straight or it and everything goes away because it seem like oh you cannot be funny anymore because of woke culture and that's apparently not intended to send not at all. No I was leery talking about ten or eleven things we were going through in in the in those movies that you just couldn't do nowadays so it wasn't it's not so much a statement on the state of Comedy Joker Joke. I actually if you re watch the hangover movies and I'm not suggesting. Can you do this but if you watch all three in a row they get progressively darker the more freedom we had the boulder we got with sort of almost jumping genres and playing with the darkness. A little bit hangover to wear darker than the first one and the third one is barely accommodate intentionally. We almost jump genres in the film. So that's just a little bit more where my tastes were headed. It's not so much a reaction to You know the state of comedy or or or granting but yet joker is clearly much it's more a tragedy than a comedy and in fact a lot of the movie is about you know just that about you. Know is his life a- comedy or is it really a tragedy you you know you've made this like tragedy is you say about someone and wow. It's been so controversial. It's extraordinarily at the box office. People are so divided Vita about it and and divided about what you're trying to say and what it means like the film has been accused of celebrating in cell culture and insult for okay. Let me just explain for people who are out of the loop on this. It's a shorthand for involuntarily celibate referring to like young men who don't don't have or maybe never had you know a girlfriend. It's connected with Misogyny and racism and anger and resentment so people have accused accused you of glorifying that because that's the part of the culture that this is set in but I mean again the main character. I don't see him as an insult inside. Sam As somebody. Who's really becoming unhinged yeah I mean to be honest with you? We didn't know that term ourselves when we started getting accused used of of making a movie four in cell culture was it was new to us. That definitely wasn't the agenda. It's not I think anyone you know. I think a lot out.
"todd phillips" Discussed on Fresh Air
"From whyy in Philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air today. Todd Phillips Producer Director and Co writer of the film joker which one one Golden Globes last night for best actor in a movie drama walking Phoenix and best original score. The movie is a sort of origin story for the villain and the Batman Batman series but joker is not a comic book movie. It really started as an experiment so to speak is like well. You know maybe you could get one of those kind of deep dive character to study movies done nowadays in the studio system if few I guess disguise it as a comic book film Joaquin Phoenix Plays Arthur Flick a party clown and aspiring stand up comic in a city overcome by garbage rats and unemployment cuts in social services have left him unable to afford his medications and his mental health is deteriorating as the city deteriorates just me getting crazier offer. The city is going crazy and the main character is becoming increasingly unhinged in the movie joker which won two Golden Globes last night for best actor in a movie drama Joaquin Phoenix and best original score. The movie comes out on. Dvd Blu Ray and four K.. Tomorrow Joker was produced directed and Co written by my guest Todd Phillips who also directed the hangover films. Joker is an origin story sort of for the villain the Batman Comics and movies. But the movie isn't a Comic Book Story. It said in Gotham city in nineteen eighty one. But Gotham looks very much like Manhattan Hatton in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. The main character Arthur flick played by walking. Phoenix is a troubled man with a history of serious mental health problems. It's Arthur's Arthur's dream to be a standup comic at the beginning of the film Arthur dresses in a clown costume and makeup because he works for an agency that rents out clowns for parties parties and occasions one night on the subway. He's attacked by three young white men in suits. He defends himself with a gun and kills them. There's so much crime I am. In the city and people are feeling so victimized that Arthur becomes a folk hero and people start wearing clown masks in tribute to him meanwhile the city media so broke. It's cutting social services and for Arthur. That means he's forced off his meds because his assistance has been cut the deterioration of the city and of Arthur's mental health feed off each other in a disastrous way. Todd Phillips Welcome back to fresh air joker has really really divided audiences and critics but it. It's done fantastically at the box office on one other people who thinks this is a terrific film and a very serious film. You've said that you made the character joker in order to make a serious movie. That's kind of about a comic book character so you could get a big budget. It was it was. You said a way to sneak a real movie into the studio system under the guise of a comic book film. Tell us more about that started. I think that the films that I grew up on grew up loving that how hard it is to get those movies made nowadays and how not just because students don't WanNa make them people don't WanNA show up to them necessarily and I started looking around at the state of the movie business about what people are showing up to clearly superhero films. Have that have taken over. The comic book Genre. Didn't even exist. When I was younger right there were there? Were horror movies comedies romantic comedies dramas. But now you know the the comic book movies movies its own genre and when you're making a film you know whether it's good or bad It takes you two to three years and it's disappointing when audiences don't show up and and so it to me. It was a way of kind of wrapping the movie in Away of cutting through the fog so to speak you know nowadays with net flicks and all the content. That's out there. Films really have to kind of cut through all the noise to get people to show up to the theaters so it really started as an experiment so to speak is like well. You know maybe you could get one of those kind of deep dive character. Study movies done nowadays in the studio system. If you I guess disguise it as a comic book film not that it was a trick we were playing. It was just something of boy you know you could do a character study if it was about one one of those characters some accents. Yeah test to me. So joker is always described as an origin story for the character of the joker. But you know. The movie's called Joker occur. Not The joker so it seems to me like you're hedging a little bit. It's like yeah. He's joker he's not necessarily the joker. Well well I mean I think `ambiguities is a fun part of this film and I think films in general and we do like pudding little things out there if you actually see the screenplay screenplay we wrote on the cover it says joker and then under it says N. origin not the and it's not like hedging our bets. That's as much as it is saying. You know joke around and how much you know about the character But he's famous for not having origin story. He's famous for saying in one of the Comic Books Zero Killing Joke. I think where he says. I prefer my pass to be multiple choice. We knew we were GONNA have some pushback from or we thought we were going to have some pushback from Comic Book Fan saying saying well hang on a minute you know. This is sacrilege so to speak. You can't give an origin to joker. That's that's part of the fun thing about joker so the film is set in the early eighties in in Gotham which has been to be Kinda like New York in the early eighties. You're I think. Ten or eleven in nineteen eighty one in the film. Tom There is like a garbage strike. There's tons of garbage piling up around the city super rats have infested city. There's cuts in social services unemployment in anger hostility. The mayor's declared a state of emergency. What's your connection to nineteen eighty one and Manhattan and also due to the decay and despair and the crime and poverty and garbage and chaos? You associate with Gotham Well I mean my connection to it. Is You know having grown up in New York. I wasn't in Manhattan when I was ten or eleven of up at that point we had moved to Long Long Island but my mother worked in the city and oftentimes I'd go in with her to work When I had a school day off she didn't we didn't have a babysitter? 'CAUSE Grow up with a single mom and two older sisters. oftentimes I would go with my mom and I do remember the city back at that time and it feeling like I'm kind of a broken down city on the brink and tell us it felt like I say uh Scott Silver and I who wrote the script it felt like the right setting for creating a character turnpike Arthur flex slash joker We wanted that kind of hopeless feeling. We wanted everything to be kind of coming down on. Arthur the mounds of garbage everywhere. I mean these are obviously it was based on a real time in New York there were real garbage strikes in New York. New York's always had rat problems. I remember seeing the cover. Cover The New York Post one saying super rats So you know you pick and choose and you take things from your past and of course you create new things and you build off of it. Let's talk about your vision of joker the character of Arthur. He initially paints his face like a clown because he's employed by an agency the basically rents out clowns silence Like for your child's Party or for life the hospital children's ward but for reasons. I won't explain. I don't want to give away too much stuff you know. He loses his job but he continued sometimes to paint his face and he has serious mental health problems. There's a history of mental health problems in his family and he soon off his meds heads because he can no longer afford them and the city can no longer help him. 'cause they're shutting down services and his mental health deteriorates as the movie goes was on. Why did you want want this joker to have a mental health disorder and well is it a specific disorder that you've given? Yeah well. It wasn't that we wanted him to necessarily have a mental health disorder. What really we wanted to do? And what really the whole Mo of the film was. Let's make a comic book film where we run everything through as realistic lens as possible. So why does joker have a white face and green green hair..
"todd phillips" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"Isn't it interesting that the funniest comedians are are funniest satirists are or you and I wonder how much in in maybe you studied this too. Because you know you've made some of the some great comedies and in my opinion Hangover is easily in the top three of the modern day. A thank you film comedies. I think you know Now what are the other two bridesmaids right. There's something about Mary I would say Borat stepbrothers stepbrothers. I don't know where to put Borat because it's kind of a and I was a writer on board. I can't be word for it. Yeah Yeah Oh my God um worked with session that I started working the whole idea out with him. Yes on very early got. Yeah what was that like. It was amazing I I met him early and I and there's another angry guy again I mean it does. It's a lot of I mean because you know comedy is based in Truth and sometimes truth makes you angry and you know truth. Nowadays days has become offensive. Comedy is become offensive. And it's very weird got to live Yeah but comedy has to be offensive yes US otherwise because comedian. It has to be a reverend reverend. Yes but comedians are saying things the rest of us are afraid to say they they literally the job. Yeah so you're setting yourself up for you now Maybe you know maybe we weren't GonNa White me if I say this but it's If some of these things don't get said no matter how painful it is to listen to them. Then I think we're the worse off for it. Now that's my feeling about that but I think that that I don when I say you know like your film like hangover or brides were. There's something about Mary or or some of the others. So you mentioned Borat. Stepbrother is a brother to me was the most remarkable. Connie I also believe as filmmakers Oh makers because people will say to me Mike you know what I mean I. I don't make the films you make. These issues are important and and I'm like no no. We might belief as all of us as filmmakers if we do nothing else than after the end of a hard week. People were hard. We work longer hours in this country than any other country at the end of the week if we can give them a couple of hours of of joy course first of of of any of a range of emotions crying but they get mad any of that. We've done a service I think. Yeah I've I've had that so many times where I made old school or the hangover movies or where somebody would come to me and be like I got to tell you so your movie. I'd been in the worst mood for two weeks. Assure removing it just made me forget everything and laugh for two hours and I literally feel better after. There is value in Sullivan's travels right Preston. sturges right right. It's there is there is value. You're adding value to the world when you can make a movie like the hangover made so much many around the world you'd do the math you go. Oh you made ah eighty million people laugh. That's not nothing no. I think it's really something and I think that actually Sullivan's travels was on TV this week. Oh I just happened across process I watched it again. And and if you haven't seen the film it's Basically the the long the short of it is a Hollywood film director. This is the settlement forty. Yeah late late. There Yali Thirties the depression And he decides. He doesn't WanNa make frivolous comedies anymore. He wants to go make a brother where art thou of serious social minded film about the hard times. Everybody's going through. And and so he he goes out. He decides to become a be called a Hobo right back then. There is like a homeless person but then it was a Hobo and let go undercover as a whole undercover cover. So imagine like Hollywood director today deciding. I'm going to go undercover as a homeless person in downtown. La Right and out of that. I'm going to make my my my main masterpiece by opus. And and so but what he finds out along the way just to skip to the end of the movie is that in the end and of course he's been arrested. He's been imprisoned right there. He's on working in the prison and he's and the prisoners are being taken to a church. Where it's you know Monday movie tonight. They're showing it on a wall movie with all he's there with all the other prisoners and he's so upset and he's just like and and it's A. It's an old early early Walt Disney movie. Yeah right so he He notices everybody is so happy and it's a black church. Yeah it's it's people. People who in the thirties would be having the worst. Not that it's available. I better now bright as quickly any looks around the church and everybody is laughing and smiling and touching each other like oh this is right on the back. And he's like Oh wait a minute. I used to do this. I used to make these kinds of films uh-huh and And he came to that conclusion. The yellow said there is value in that he decided to go back and make a comedy because people needed relief. Yeah from especially during the Great Depression when they were all going through. Yeah so so so you so you start while we actually. She started out as a documentary. Filmmaker I did. Yeah I did. I started out doing documentary graduate from Film School. I didn't dropped out. You dropped out. Never Finished College College. No I didn't finish NY NYU and the the reason I dropped out wasn't some big rebellious reason. It was literally. I couldn't afford the college to end. Finish the the movie I was making so the project started as my junior year Pro Documentary I I went to Nyu to two ways. You can go. You can go narrative or documentary culinary. I literally went the documentary route. Because I didn't know that I had it in me to write scripts yet I feel like sometimes you go to film school in a lot of eighteen year olds. Don't have much to say so. I always viewed documentaries as a way to kind of live life on fast forward to get life experience. You know like to be in places and do things you wouldn't normally do and at the same time. Make a film film. I mean the first movie just to backtrack that actually made me want to be a filmmaker. Was Gimme shelter You know maizels in Charlottetown wordings film on the Almonte and Yeah Sixty Nine. Yeah Rolling Stones Tour and the reason why that was is because you remember that move. I saw it on. VHS I said a friend's house. When I was like twelve years old his dad had it would they filmed in the editing room to remember that amazing where they brought the cameras in the editing room showing the stones? What happened that Al.? Yeah with the stabbing. And I'd never seen editing room. And it was the first time I understood that there are people behind movies. You know what I mean like that. And that's how movies made and everything big machine. It was an eight plates Steinbeck back then and I decided that's what I wanted to do And I just went the documentary program at Nyu So I started the first film. I made his film called hated Gijon in the murder junkies about this punk rock band in On the scene in New York although they weren't in New York band he was actually in Detroit. Who's he got arrested? And he was in jail in Ann Arbor Michigan. When we started the movie I'd written him in jail? Said I WANNA do a movie value. He was going to get out in three months and And he broke parole to come to New York and do the movie so the movie was about him putting his back together the documentaries about and tour a fresh out of jail Hindus it was in this was in ninety one ninety one. Yeah Yeah. So he breaking parole in Michigan and ninety one you know the state was already broke right. They're not gonNA track. There's nobody he left. He literally called me from jail. He's like well. You know you guys either come out here and do something parole. And I can't leave the State and oh I can't bring like three crew people out there. I had no money to make this this year. Who've your junior and junior in college at Nyu and he goes Well if you send me a bus ticket I'll just come to New York and we'll do it there. And so I literally Fedex one way bus ticket and he came and we started the move here and he started putting his band back together. And that's what the movie's about so I dropped out of NYU because they couldn't afford the tuition at Nyu. Obviously the end. Finish this film So finished it and and that's how I got started so so you dropped out at Nyu. Your Undergrad yes oh yeah. It was in the UNDERGRAD. UNDERGRAD program. Go back you don't have a degree. No okay interfering people listening to this. Who are out? We're paying forty thousand a year master right. I was in New York City resident so I got a ton Hana financial aid so really I was only paying three grand a year to go to NYU. Wow Donald people that either but I still had those still to get that three granny do loans alright finished but so I needed that. Three grand of junior and senior year actually finished the movie But but in fairness I I should say that when the hangover the first hangover one Golden Globe for best comedy comedy. Yes thank Eh parentheses comedy. It won the Golden Globe in the dean at the time of NYU sent me Fedex diploma with a letter. And she said can you please stop saying you didn't graduate from Nyu. Oh my gosh though is really sweet I should say I dropped out in my sophomore year of University of Michigan Flint Lynch brand. They have never sent me a really know anything. In fact Michigan State notes. That Michigan had never done that for me so they they gave me an honorary doctor years ago but But anyway so okay so so you start with documentaries you start with this one. Yeah then when I first met you yes was your second. Yeah second movie that we did for HBO and When I was doing it's called Frat House and It was sort of this look fraternities and hazing in the in the mid to late nineties there and when I was doing hated After I was also interning for Sheila Nevins the Great Sheila Nevins Adrian Focus was obsessed with documentary. And I knew if I get in there I can see how these things are made and you know And Sheila was amazing to me new. I dropped out of school and still let me in turn when I was dropped out for another year there I was with her for two years and then I brought her this idea with a friend of mine to do Frat House and she gave us the money to do it and we went and made it and it ended up winning the grand jury prize at Sundance and dance. where I don't remember if you were as on the judge if you were in the jury I can't remember if that was the Arizona? I know Nick Broomfield was on the jury where you yeah I well I it was. I was there that year. Also because I I had made A documentary where I traveled across the country on a book tour? Yeah and it was called the Big One right and and you know what I most remember about that. This is January of ninety eight right up okay. While were there that week at Sundance the news news breaks about Monica Lewinsky and the whole thing right led to his impeach right be began members we were like going to movies and then trying to watch watch. TV right holy crap. What's going to happen? Yeah but so so. We have to remind me how we met so well. I just met you. Because you're Michael Moore and I've been obsessed awesome you because I know documentary filmmakers the way some people know rock singers. You know writing you and Nick Broomfield there for me was was not a small thing so I still. They'll have a photo of you and I think it was your wife at the time I'm standing in between you your arm around me and his beaming smile. It's literally my office in L. A. A Yeah that's yeah now. Obviously you somebody. I can't remember a picture with but It was a big moment for me and yes but but my arm was around you..
"todd phillips" Discussed on Collider Movie Talk
"Today Alive Zona Collider movie talk. We got more joker. That's right the might be sequel in the works and then we boldly go where nowhere has. No one has gone before these no hall is going to do that. And then there's a trio of marvel castings involved called and Steven soderbergh's throwing down for them as well talking about all on collider movie talk. Suzanne LOGO COME ON LOGO. Get outta here alright. Hey welcome everybody. John Sal Rocca sitting in the host today again hosted the rest of the week but while Perry number off is having some fun down Kabo. That's what I'm seeing from those pictures a lot of fun. Hey Kabul is great but in his greatest hanging out with these two gentlemen today. We're GONNA talk. Meet them now. That's the silence doesn't have great. It's good to see. We put a star trek story on. And you're like super excited. We're yesterday what happened. I was like this is going to be one of the topics tomorrow and I love what silence gets animated because it means we're in for a good show and you know this guy this next guy I he looks so good and his newsy hat. He's got himself a new comedy special. That just dropped that guy right there. Mark Ellis how are you. I'm great John John I gotta say Hanging out with you gentlemen. It's nowhere near as nicest Kabo sit. I think we all would rather be on vacation in Mexico right now. Otherwise yes I agree to do this. I thought I was booking myself vacation to cop replacing period for a day. So you're doing a great job mug right there thank you. Oh that's right I am who I am and I appreciate you both stopping by absolute. You only GonNa have some fun and we're GONNA get into some topics right now. Let's do it I. That's the joker joker doc. It is coming back possibly as a sequel to teach or and sources. TODD PHILLIPS IS LIKELY TO RE team with walking Phoenix on a follow up to this one billion dollar making film if you read the Article Todd villages already. According to sources made one hundred million dollars off this film I would retire but anyway he went in to talk to toby. Emmerich the Warner Brothers. A pictures group Chairman Abou- after the opening weekend after they made ninety six two point two two million dollars opening weekend about getting the rights to develop a portfolio of DC characters origin stories. That's right Todd Phillips. He tried to big time here at waterbirds in DC and be like. I'm going to create the Todd Phillips Verse of the DC verse. That's some guts and I really appreciate the stones on that kid. But he when he walked balked at this said no so but now it's according to teach our it seems like a sequel is in the words they approved that Joaquin Phoenix is signed on to do a possible sequel as as well according to this here and then taught villages coming back with the writer Scott Silver who joked the joker scream. Who wrote the job the joker screenplay? So I mean I'm looking at you. Mark Ellis as our own resident. Joker what is your your thoughts on this. Do you like the idea of a sequel. Did you enjoy that. This was a wanna I enjoyed. It was a one off. Yeah and and even when they were talking during the press conference rounds before the movie was released about. Hey I'd love to come back and revisit this character I was like I thought that we were just making in a small little movie and it was separate from the rest of the DC universe. Because I think that's the big question a lot of people are gonNA have. Is it when you hear the term sequel. You're going to assume we'll now this has to tie into something else. It because of the way that the first film left us off and we said Oh maybe there is some kid activity with some sort of university and if it's not the one that the D. C. The EU wanted to be going forward. So the person. I'm really wondering what their mental status this morning is not Todd Phillips or walking Phoenix it's Matt Reeves is in his office visit. Somebody knocks on the door like what we got to put that. Jesus Christ like. He's already got nine villains his Batman movie and now he might have to work in some sort of like there's some back channel with joker thing so I I'm fine with the joker too because it is interesting to see where that character and where his influence goes Other people in Gotham city. I would prefer that they stay separate from whatever Matt Reeves is doing with his Batman. Yeah and you know we saw in the movie first of all. We saw the origin of Batman. And they were Thomas Wayne Shooting. Ironically I mean. I don't Know Who Shoots Somebody After Zorro. The Gay but that's pretty angry person But we saw that happen but then we also had the letter that implied the joker and That Arthur fleck and Bruce Wayne might be half brothers might not be half brothers. It's Kinda thrown up in the air so now it could land here here Silas with Matt Reeves having to work this. Remember Tom Phillips. Couple of weeks ago did say that. He thought that the joker in the movie would inspire. The joker would be the. The Joker for Matt Reeves is the Batman. But now could it be walking. I hope it isn't yeah. I think it would be a mistake. I think DC has found that they can make a movie like joker not have a touch continuity all have it be an incredible success and then they can do another movie. I mean for everything we know. BIRDS OF PREY is not connected connected to the walking Phoenix. Joker the joker whether or not he appears is going to have an effect on that film. Yeah well it saying here that he won't be exploring exploring back Batmans back story with his sequel. That's what T- HR's reporting won't be about that. So what does that mean. Does that mean that we just go see on the continuing attenuating adventures of joker joker without the Batman. I don't think as interesting do you think or do you. Do you really WanNa go on the further adventures of the joke anytime you you say. Hey Mark you want to go see a Batman movie. I'M GONNA say I don't care if Arnold Schwarzenegger's play Mr Freeze in it man. But with joker there there was clearly magnetism to Joaquin playing this character. That audiences responded to because you do not cross a billion dollars without repeat box office business. People love seeing him. Play this character and there was a level of refreshment. I think two people saying I don't have to worry about. How's this going to connect to to Batman wonder woman or a Superman GonNa come and making cameo it's like Oh this is just about the joker so if you can walk that line again yeah which ochre to? Then I'm fine. It would be interesting to see where that influence in. Gotham and. I think that audiences proved with the successive excessive. This joker film that they are savvy enough to be able to separate that. This is something that a standalone and does not touch the Matt Reeves Batman at all. I think it's best to keep those. Oh separate and you just hope that whoever's making the decisions of Warner Brothers can be that savvy as well because in in recent past the people who were making decisions at Warner Brothers. who no longer doing that? We're like Oh God we've got to keep up with marvel now you. We would've loved taking our time with Batman and Superman. Now we gotta have them fight each other in this movie because everybody loves comic team ups as long as DC keeps playing at their own pace with their own style. I think this movie can work joker to into darkness. I don't know I don't know if we're joker to electric BOOB. I don't know if I liked it even do batch. Man Come on does have two jokers. That's bad that's fair but according to this article article as well from T- HR. As I said he went in and and wanted to do storage. For a bunch of DC characters he did walk out with the rights to one other characters actors and now the speculation begins what. Who is he going to do? What villain would you like him to Todd Phillips to kind of do here afford? DC for Warner Brothers. Silas I would like to see so so and I'm one of my favorites is always been scarface. I think is a cool villain. Oh interesting I I think that bizarro would make such a cool movie. you let's see specifically Batman Universe. I have been saying being. I think people were saying it was a bad idea but after mandatory and maybe their opinions have changed Verna Herzog as Mr freeze really. That's interesting. Let's see. I'm going to freeze you until that works. Necessarily what about you mark. Do you have a one. You'd like to see maybe some off the wall choice to see where scarecrow went to medical school. I think I'd be interested to see that back story. The Klay Guy I I you know. I don't WanNA get too down the road with origin stories becoming major films just because again these are villains that I was raised sympathy for and so on my watch joker on screen on my supposed to be running against this guy like those Wall Street idiots either so make me feel conflicted about one of them not all of them. Could it be a hero. Could it be a hero. Because it just says the rights to a DC character route. One character did they know and they're is not telling US doing okay. It's one character it says here. The Phillips emerged from the meeting with the rights. To at least one other DC story so it could be another character. Obviously you'll get the sequel. WOHLFART joker but will he be developing something else. That's the question that's now in play was Jarad leto on the lot. Like hey if you need somebody to play another joker to play the joke it was influenced by this joker signing up for the role or is it. Another Warner Brothers property that like King comedy he's going to put the Joker Kerr into A. Wow that's interesting thing to think about as well. What what he slighted mint I? Maybe it's Dumbledore to be any warner brothers property. Guys Grendel Grendel. I'd films get his hands in the Harry Potter. You would be an interesting thing version of Harry Potter. Just seeing a albus dumbledore dancing on the stairs. That would just be perfect with Grendel all. Why not just walk into that story? The walk into that to see what's I'd I've Phillips does with the DRACO malfoy graduates hogwarts. Because Tom Felton came out and said that he would like to come back to to to the Harry Potter bears and do the Prequel of Lucius. He would like to play Lucius. Malfoy with it was interesting to play your FA- for your son Play The Sun and the Dad. That'd be very interesting as we see if you haven't seen a certain film with Sheila booth. It's very interesting to see that happen. So what Jackson did with I straight OUTTA Compton. Write your own father. I I would like to see. I think Todd Phillips in in all his films sort of accept joker has been really good with groups and like it it. It's a trio in hangover. There's a back and forth in a due date. Old School has his great great. I would love to see other characters. Brought in the only thing with joker is. He's such a clear focus of that movie. Yeah and he doesn't relate to anyone. I'd like to see some way to have a group of people bowl that he could connect with in some way..
"todd phillips" Discussed on The Empire Film Podcast
"I was little boy until people I was going to do a joker spoiled podcast spoiler specials this one is dedicated to Joe Girly standalone movie that tells the origin of the clown Prince of crime conveniences Arthur flick or does it etc etc joining me to discuss the film in Spoil Review detail are three of my finest colleagues such lethal cunning I up why so serious Ben Travis I don't know I'm not I wasn't prepared humphries on disgraceful all right welcome to the podcast panicky second of all where do you get those wonderful toys terry white you've been so much more appropriate for Ben why because he's a child especially with toys nor wonderful sex toys living just because it's colder squiggle doesn't mean it's the sex toy God's Oh my God addresses full my cell preparing for child thing are you kickstarter in your your baby toy collection yes if.
'Joker' Returns to the Weekend's Top Box Office Spot
"The joker is number one again at the box office Todd Phillips already comic book hit regained the top spot at the weekend box office in its fourth week of release narrowly besting Maleficent mistress of evil the Warner brothers sensation starring Joaquin Phoenix took an eighteen point nine in ticket sales that came in just above the eighteen point six of Walt Disney's Maleficent The Addams Family came in third with eleven point seven million dollars
"todd phillips" Discussed on Filmhaus
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Director Todd Phillips Blames 'Woke Culture' For Killing Comedy And Leading Him To Make 'Joker'
"Joker movie has just come out and I have no interest in going to see it I just want to crawl into a safe space known as Downton Abbey the movie just keep watching it and win saw that I just want to also I need to be soothed by things that are British and old timey radio I don't know what it is such just what I need life but I just feel like I don't know the joker is about just awful people murdering violence I just feel like it just feels too much life right now I just I are we on an upswing like we just want to be entertained and taken away from what we're stressed out about so and then also just the fact that the director of this movie Todd Phillips who I think he directed like hangover and hangover and whatnot these oh comedies and he was quoted Van Vanity Fair saying go try to be funny nowadays with this woke culture there were articles written about comedies don't work anymore I'll tell you why because all the effing funny guys are like F. This shit because I don't want to offend you wow I just is he canceled now he's canceled now I there's nothing that drives me more crazy than when maybe it sounds meaner ages I'll start to get older within the industry or whatever it is yes and they start to resent younger people you know or people who are more aggressive or whatever it is like I remember watching Dana Carvey Ashland somebody like came in late and they he's like oh you're probably a millennial blah blah blah and like went on this whole thing about millennials and I was like you just look grandly thing I refuse I try not well I probably do it sometimes I try not to do that because I never wanNA feel like I'm separating myself from an audience by sort of not the aging retain our youth yes bring it all spring each other to get together also in this same article I didn't have my glasses on speaking of glasses my readers on and I they were talking about his certain brand of Irreverent Bro Comedy and I was reading it and for real read it as irrelevant bro Comedy and I'm like actually leave these glasses off because that's kind of point I think the issue is that Sir those movies those the hangover movie served a time and place they were bro Gross out movies I think I think we're just tired of it we've kind of moved on and I will say you know like bridesmaids kind of like Moved the needle as far as like Oh yeah no we're we're movies and we WANNA WE WANNA see some serious ladies
"Going to be a podcast her everyone laughed at me well no one's laughing now and Stewart and this is the host who always has negative thoughts Jacob joker a movie that I could not believe have the height around it that it did I can't recall the last time a superhero film was Ben so polarizing I mean people worried about shootings in theaters people saying Joaquin deserves an Oscar yeah it was all over the place coming out of Toronto Oh this is going to be the film of the year it's going to get all the Oscars and then Todd Phillips director opens his mouth and got a lot of backlash for what he thought we're comedy was these days yet all the place with this film that said I got to say this one took me by surprise I assumed that DC was in free fall. I mean we have all commented on how their output has been inconsistent can we all agree at best putting it nicely right that they have not had the scene unless nece that the Marvel Universe has been able to bestow on all of their works when I heard they were doing a one off joker movie I was like that sounds like a bad idea story are you getting those marvel paycheck saying they're in free fall I mean wonder woman made one of a billion dollars off man made a billion dollars what kind of free was that will somebody say well I don't care what the hardcore people think the truth of the matter is a lot of their movies have stone DOC and they've not consistent the fact that we have a one of joker movie this joker that we're told will never appear with Batman what the hell are they doing marvel would never do that is what I guess I would say sure but I don't mind that like what is the best spider man film Spiderman entered the spider verse like that is not connection to the m. c. you or what Sony is doing with Tom Allen's spider manoeuvres etta any of that so I don't mind a one off if you can just pull off a good movie I don't care if it's in any kind of continuity villain standalone movies making a Superhero movie without a superhero has not been something I've thought has worked before I mean Holly Aries cat-woman Tom Hardy thinom they could never figure out how to do sinister of six I mean you could even probably throw the Star Wars prequels into that concept having the super villain story told without a counterpoint of heroism where's our entry point who are we supposed to be with and what are they going to accomplish the you mentioned marvel I think that DC here is taking a cue from Marvel's newest acquisition Fox Todd Phillips talked about how it took a lot of convincing at Warner Brothers to let him do an R. rated joker movie but that was the only thing he was pitching and he's literally hearing responses from Warner brothers like we sell joker pajamas at target what are you going to do to our character that might hurt Pyjama sales and look at the roads that deadpool paved and I think even more specifically logan going more dramatic and being R. rated you can't beat marveled by playing Marvin those game the way you beat marvelous by making your own Fox did that and nobody is even see new mutants because nobody knows what to do with it again the X. Men horror movie yeah they've experimented sometimes those experiments have been successful I'm just saying approaching this project hearing the we're going to do a one off film about the region of joker seemed like a waste of time I was not excited about this movie at all until I saw the trailer Yeah Al admit I mean after seeing what happened to jared Leto in jokers role in suicide squad. We'll see at that movie he doesn't think he was in that movie enough he's got a scene it was not overly excited to see what they would do with joker now what I will say is somewhere at this very moment jared Leto has pissed Yeah Joaquin Phoenix get attached this because that's what I would have gotten excited you know he's one of those actors like Tom Hardy who's like a Nicholas cage who is just going to make some decisions and go with them they could be czar. They could be captivating like that trailer yeah they really tapped into Martin Scorsese in that taxi driver field but I was even more excited about Joaquin Phoenix playing this role and should be pointed out he is the man that would be doctor strange he has quartered comic book movies before and walked away saying this is not really for me why do this one he was also offered the role of Bruce Banner the reason he didn't do them he didn't WanNa sign multi picture contracts he didn't want to do what Chris Evans and Robert Downey junior did where the next seven years of your life you're working basically as a day player for marvel here it's a one picture deal and the ways they got him on board for this one it was Todd Phillips again Joaquin was connected from the very beginning and the Pitch Phillips gave him is we're going to make a real movie but we're going to get warner brothers to fifty million dollars for it by calling it fucking joker yeah how did Todd Phillips and doing this because I've seen a lot of his films old cool that hangover trilogy these are not things that I associate with a Gritty New York Scorsese style film you saying that and coach when I look at this filmography I hadn't seen most of what he meant. Yeah they're bad comedies well he makes kind of comedy I don't patronize the I'm not ever interested in watching skin hutch that's just not something I'm going to see I did see war dogs which I actually thought it was a little underrated I thought it was pretty good it's okay yeah kind of fell apart at the end yeah thought it was decent as well and it was four dogs that actually got this happening as he was at an early screening of war dogs with Warner brothers and realize is is exact phrase was war dogs wasn't going to set the world on fire as so he started talking to Warner about what could we make that's going to really get attention and do a little bit more be a little more provocative look way down on his resume his first film and you might actually see why he really got the Gig I was doc I didn't realize I had always heard about this documentary about the punk icon singer G- yeah I did not know top Phillips did that I have seen it ooh those are some live performances you wanna be careful with he strips down throws a species tough stuff to watch yeah I watched the movie I was like Oh I've always wanted to see it this gives me an lent reason it may be the closest of all his films to joker it begins with an actual endorsement from John Wayne Gay see another killer clown so yeah brutal I don't know that I'm telling people I recommend that experience be prepared I don't say this lightly it is very punishing it is very hard set is provocative and ways a lot of people probably want appreciate but you can't see a director who's very much trying to confront a freak entertainer and I do think at a core G G Allen and joker are two sides of the same coin so I would be interested to see a guy that came from punk rock bring a punk rock aesthetic to of joker movie if we must Gotcha Joker Origin Story. I WanNa say though I'm hesitant because I mean I always liked the way Keith Ledger played it how did I get my scars there's a danger and telling US definitively how joker came to exist right. There's something about the mystery we want to leave I've always liked the mystery the funny thing and you can go back to books and Nachos where in our talks about the killing joke written by Alan Moore the joker says I always change my story but here's the version I'm going to tell of my own gin and they tell an origin story and then just as origin story we're just GonNa make that the real thing but yeah I've always preferred him to be like Batman rewritten so obsessed with origin Martha Thomas Wayne Getting Killed and the pearls and walking out Zora all of that that has been told so many times joker being the opposite of Batman I liked that you just this mysterious chaotic clown figure that comes out of nowhere yeah I've definitely was thinking the killing joke when watching this and how it took elements of that in that Comic Book Joker was a failed stand up comedian who was kind of down on his luck in a rundown older Gotham city but I came in I think we might be seeing virtually and adaptation of the killing joke minus all the Batman stuff no they definitely go in a different direction with this but it gave them a good starting point and joker said he likes his origin story to be multiple choice. DC is having both ways they're gonNa make their continuity multiple choice switch movies do you want and continuity go ahead that's weird for me that we're seeing something that I should not think of as a comic book movies essentially what they're telling me don't worry I'll have nothing to do with Zam Aquaman wonder woman and all of that I mean did they even have that DC logo they have that old school Warner Brothers logo show up no DC logo okay and yet I mean it's not just your average comic book movies this movie's doing bigger than a lot of films I mean it's opening bigger than the average thor film it's maybe not topped here it's not spiderman but I'm not really it's no atman though it's beaten that man right yeah this is going to have a ninety million joining in the US. The biggest October release of all time is it Halloween in the mood for something kind of scary after it we want another killer oh but it's shocking to me the box office for what essentially feels a little art film is so huge and that it's rated R. You can't get teenagers in which is where marvel makes its money is they are aiming specifically at thirteen to seventeen year old market with their PG thirteen films and yes adults can like it in younger kids can like it but they're keeping that content for a rated R. Film in an error where in my experience it's much harder for young people to get into a rated R. Film that it made this much money is shocking to me I expected it to do well I didn't expect it to break venoms record
Already courting controversy, 'Joker' looks to open huge
"Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter and Matt Hat Joker Joker from Warner. Brothers looks like it is going to open really huge. This is a movie from Todd Phillips. It is very very dark and there has been a lot of alarm about whether this movie could incite violence and I hate to talk that way about a movie that hasn't opened yet that people people haven't seen but this is escalated into a serious thing and it's a thing that some of the executives at warners apparently were concerned about when they decided I did to make it in the first place. Yeah I have seen it and I understand why people are fearful of this movie. It is extremely dark extremely violent. It does offer a sympathetic portrait of this villainous killer but it's also extremely artistic and well-made and impactful impactful and if you talk to Todd Phillips he says you know it's not my responsibility to think about what the impact might or might not be of this film. It's is my responsibilities and artists to make a great film and I think that's where the debate is. Yeah I mean I I had heard from my sources. You know going back to this issue. Shula the decision to make it that warners kind of ambivalent about an actually came up with a low budget a relatively low budget about sixty million. I think maybe hoping hoping that it would kind of get killed because Toby Emmerich runs warner brothers and whom had to make this decision you know he he doesn't want to not be filmmaker. Friendly especially Todd Phillips has delivered some successful movies hangover and so it so he was a guy. They want to be in business with at the same time. I'm sure they're thinking about the brand and does this do something thing to the DC comics brand in fact the head of DC comics. We heard was initially very concerned on supposedly ultimately came around but he so whatever low the budget he may have said they they met it or they came close and and the thing did get made. It's almost like you know. Maybe he got toby. EMMERICK got a little bit pregnant with by saying I'm going to try and make this. An undesirable date and Todd Phillips is like I'm there for that day yeah and now it's probably going to be a big success. I mean I the movie got amazing reviews out of Venice one the festival it was named best film at the Venice Film Festival and it's probably going to have an Oscar campaign as well so right now it seems like a win for the studio but there is this other side where if you are making a movie that is based on Conic Comic Book Characters and and you take that Ip and turn it into a dark violent nihilistic and really disturbing portrait talk of a mentally ill murderer. Do you have any responsibility when you put that out into the world and and we'll say that warners has been very clear. This is an R. rated movie. It's not for children. There are no toys associated with this film they they are making clear in the marketing materials that it is not like your typical. DC comics movie but some kids are probably going to see this year. Yeah I mean the other thing is that they clearly were somewhat nervous about it because they sold old off half of it to other investors and there's other investors are probably happy right now and worse. We'll still make a lot of money but you you know that was a hedge against what if people really react negatively to this but however based on the early tracking the box office is going to be huge I will say. I don't know if the academy how they how how they react I mean they've done dark movies before. Joaquin Phoenix is seen as favourite Oscar race but sometimes controversy is bad for for for Academy Award Contenders sometimes and sometimes it might be the thing that breaks through the clutter and this is a visionary film so it might be the distinguishing factor yeah. I just hope this all this talk about. The potential for violence doesn't increase the potential for violence. Thank you matt. Thank you Melanie aditorial director of the Hollywood reporter.
"todd phillips" Discussed on Collider Movie Talk
"And see Asian characters that were not the the way they're portrayed as Mickey. Rooney is in breakfast at Tiffany's. I really push back on anybody tries to tell me that that's from the time it's just like people say slavery well. That was is the time no abolitionists were around. When slavery was around do your research there is always there's always a group or a culture that saying what you're doing doing here is racist or misogynistic or homophobic and wrong just because it isn't them mass culture and large amounts of people doing it doesn't mean there were people who knew what you were doing was wrong? Just everybody finally comes around doesn't mean all of a sudden oh now I see a very good point and I think we have to embrace something like that. Because whether it's a more vocal group or smaller group at whatever time period we're talking about anybody being aware of something being wrong done in cinema or anywhere in in the world constantly hearing that is how we evolve and going back to something you were saying as thinking about certain comedies that are doing pretty well with this kind of stuff on the big screen think about. Seth Rogan what he has done with his craft and his career and he had long shot come out this year long shot. I thought was very very funny but I was going back. Can I was looking at some of the quotes he had given. I believe in two thousand sixteen about super bad and he had even said then that the two thousand seven movie he said some of the rifts chiefs in that movie are some of the rifts in the movie border blatantly homophobic and he had said it's funny looking at some movies. We've made in the last ten years. There's under the lenses of new errors new social consciousness. There's for sure some stuff in our earlier movies and even our more recent movies where even like a year a year later. You're like maybe that wasn't the greatest idea so here's an example of a filmmaker who is just you know looking back on his stuff taken the times into account and he's changing with it and I think he's changing for the better and he's delivered some great stuff this year. I liken it to the Beastie. Boys right first album licensed. Their first real big got licensed to ill lot of offensive stuff. They said about women a lot of stuff they said in that on those tracks but then as they get older their music progresses their music changes they started talking about more positive stuff and then they issue apologies for some of those tracks on that album saying we were young young. We didn't understand now. We're more we have more knowledge in context and education about women in this society and the culture and so we apologize for that will work harder to track the don't do that and they didn't and so that that's progress. That's what happens you get older. You understand you make a mistake your podcast you learn from it and and you do better with your art. That's nothing wrong with that can filmmaking in general. I feel like when you're challenged. Boxton is the wrong term but I don't know I'll just stick with challenged. I guess sometimes you find line that hidden magic that you didn't even know what you're capable of so with this boils down to for me is that Todd Phillips didn't feel like he could pursue his reverend reverend material in the comedy genre. He went to a different genre and you know no matter what you think about joker. I think there's some great craftsmanship in that but this common almost makes makes me wish he would make another comedy next because I wanNA see him test himself because no matter what we think about certain jokes movies looking back on them right now he found great great success in the comedy genre so if he forces himself really challenges himself to evolve who knows what could come out of it so I'm Kinda wishing he does that next now I don't. I think it's to be honest that hard. Maybe it's just because it's coming from me and it's one of those things where it's like. It's not hard to not be completely insulting and just plain clain on funny and rude towards different groups of people. I don't think that's very hard to ask for it. I mean that's just to me. Common Sense I mean there was an interview with Merrill. I don't know if you guys you know who those two guys two guys who who have a podcast day boys and their stuff is very offensive but they were asked what do you think about. I think it was on on hot. One shout out to Sean Evans on hot ones but it was about like this woke culture and they were like no that's fake man like all we have to do is use commonsense in you can still be funny. Johnny this whole attitude towards like. You can't say that anymore is just not true like we can say whatever we want. We just know how to say it and we're just not going out of our way to insult certain groups of people because that's an simple common knowledge that you don't do that. I don't think you could still be very offensive or or or counterculture edgy. Whatever word you WANNA use and still be funny and not be insulting and not be degrading not like persecute a certain group of people people. I think that's not that hard to do. That's just my opinion but I think this attitude towards like it's destroying comedies. Just not not true especially with the stuff we see nowadays tale tone you comedy. TV is some of the best it's been yeah comedy on TV comedy on the big screen. I mean just thinking about you know long shot. We had good Mboya. We had book smart it has been I mean maybe not necessarily at the box office but it's in a fairly good year for comedy is as far as quality is concerned. Kennedy one thing to on on a side note like I don't think and there's already this attitude obviously on film twitter where we're at where it shouldn't take away from the movie itself. I personally haven't seen the movie you guys have but I feel like there's this attitude where like all taught Phillips said that I I'm protesting joker and it's like really guys that we have to use this as like this weird flagship flagship attitude towards like now that taught Philip has said these comments. We're not gonNA see joker or or now. I'm going to look joker with the different ice personally as someone who hasn't Seena. I want to go in there. No expectations blind. I don't care who directed this movie. I don't care what he said. I just WanNa see the joker with Joaquin Phoenix like that's what I wanNA. Let's see I don't want this to be like now. The Todd Phillips said this don't watch joker. If you're if you're the coach that's to me. That's like a B. S. Line and it doesn't work. It's a very challenging thing because like press and marketing go hand in hand with actually making and releasing a movie so I mean that that's why you know. Pr and having a good team behind your baggage super important. Do you think that's what's dangerous here because todd you're talking too much. Just let your film stand for itself and then afterwards when people having these kinds of conversations who've seen the film then at that point you can have more nuanced interviews and talk about the film and what people are getting out of it what your intention attention was what you hope the messages of the film that people take away from it all those things can happen but doing these using the film to kind of be a symbol of what you want to change in the culture. I think is very dangerous because then you're trying to manipulate the message of the film before you even walk in there and people need to go in like if you'd like I went in last night all the controversy I try to see as little as possible and I wanted to take and savor the film as as a fan of films I wanted to watch it and enjoy you it and then come own opinion and I think more people need to do that. The more he talks the less it's possible because people start to turn against him and I think that's a mistake to ask your opinion on the share. I liked it the word and you said this. They enjoyed it impairs. That's strange. I didn't think the word would come up but I enjoyed it. As a fan of film like as a fan of seventies or my favorite were decade of film period. There's no decade that I go back to a watch films more than the seventy s because of how they attack the system. I'm I am a natural rebel and so to me those films from the seventies or speak to me still about attacking the institutions in the corruption within them to keep certain class asked and certain poverty levels down certain color assert minorities rather down. I believe in that and so that is what seventy so we spoke to me. This was very very much as a companion piece to the film that is a companion piece to the seventy S. Hawking's incredible cinematography is incredible the score the the score is not since man is still have. I wanted to immediately walkout film and by the score than I did with with joker and I think Todd Phillips Directs One hell of a movie and if he doesn't get nominated for best director for this I will be absolutely shocked that being said I really really understand why people walk out of this film questioning whether it should have been made whether it should be out there with our culture. I'm never one to stop people from making art art because you're afraid of what people might say how might affect society. I'm more aware of the effect of it but I would never stop someone. I'm from doing it but like I said I totally get. Why if you walk out going. I don't know if this is the right time for filming. Yes I mean. There's no doubt this movie is going to spark some very interesting conversation all through the weekend and then also for the next couple of months because like you said Oscars this has major Oscar buzz and you know between certain comments behind the AH like not pertaining to the actual movie on talk shows and interviews what have you it all adds to what the movie's real chances are to get the nominations in certain categories so you can bet on collider. FDIC we will be tracking all of that all right. Let's move on to our next door. This is like the biggest shift in in the world talking about these Todd Phillips quotes to the home alone reboot so part of the reason why we want to talk about this a little bit today of course they did just bring on the director Dan Mazer officially but I wanted to talk to you guys a little bit about this this whole idea of what the movie's about because I am conflicted about it as a die hard home alone fans and just to reiterate here. The script is expected to follow a married couple who go to war with a young boy boy who has stolen something from them. Is that like a reversal of home alone. That doesn't feel like why call it home alone. If that's the prentice whose home alone in this I can't lie. I roll my eyes really hard when I get the whole. Ip Aspect of it that Disney wants to take certain Fox Properties and take that I pee and develop new movies especially movies that are a little bit more kid centered and kid friendly or directed towards kids because that's what Disney's known for but just I don. I feel like home. Alone is going to say period. I'm sorry it's it's a little outdated right. Am I wrong. Say You have to update the story..
Concerns over 'Joker' screenings
"Well the controversy is beginning. the joker starring Joaquin Phoenix causing controversy before it even hits the theaters. six are calling the origin story dangerous. responsible propaganda for supposedly empathizing with the kind of socially isolated emotionally disturbed individuals they have gone on to harm others. now that includes articles well Vanity Fair anywhere all over the place and most recently a letter from the families of the victims of the Aurora shooting which of course was in two thousand twelve that took the lives of twelve people at a screening of the dark knight rises which by the way was not the movie with the joker just putting that in as a cabbie ought. the upcoming joker film will not be screened at back Colorado theater due to concerns that it may inspire a copycat of the original incident. the families and other critics worried that the violence in the film glorifies the trouble joker character and that the studio has a social responsibility to keep us all safe. now Warner brothers Joaquin Phoenix director Todd Phillips have all responded to it and while they all agree that gun violence is a critical issue in society they insist that the movie is not an endorsement of real world violence. and at the movie does not hold the character the joker up as a hero. among the many things that Joaquin Phoenix said quote I think if you have somebody that has that level of emotional disturbance they can find fuel anywhere. I've got mixed emotions here. let me start with the fact that. if we start in this country. if we began canceling television programs television episodes movies. dad coincidentally coincided might be redundant if canceling television programs television episodes motion pictures that reflect what you know some of the tragedies that are going on in the world. getting rid of those. we won't have any entertainment we won't have anything to watch. then again I'm not a. victim obviously are a family member of anybody who was in that theater in two thousand twelve. so I don't know. at the very least I can understand you know them demanding a beefed up security presence at you know these theaters which are showing see I don't Kerr with that where do you and you know me I'm not big on the well if we do this here's what's gonna come next I'm not I don't like that game of looking down the road what's next what's next what's next but that being said what are you gonna so I mean how are you going to visit who's going to make the decision on when you need to beef up security and when you don't well when alarms are ray is when you have the army warning soldiers that mass shooters could show up at screenings because of what I once again big proponent of the military been there done that what makes them experts on this
Is Joker a 'Dangerous' Movie? Director Todd Phillips Responds to Critics
"Director Todd Phillips Take on the jokers starring Joaquin Phoenix is bringing bringing up a now familiar conversation what is Hollywood's role when it comes to gun violence and how should the industry respond to concerns about excessive violence in film NTV Brent Lang is executive editor for film immediate variety and he wrote about why the families of the twenty twelve Aurora theater shooting are concerned about joker oh car. Hey Brent Hi John can you I set up a little bit of the premise of joker and how violence is part of its story sure so joker is is an origin story and it it takes a look at this man who's a mentally disturbed man living with his kind of crazy mother and a very rundown rundown part of the city and he has kind of aspirations of being a stand up comic and you know without giving too much away those those dreams don't come to pass and instead he kind of gradually loses touch with reality and a lot of violence ensues and but as part of that he kind of inspires this anarchic uprising in Gotham city and it is it is a very violent very bloody very R a-rated comic book adaptation so how much of the premise or the violence is behind the families of the Aurora shooting victims to write this letter and Dan share their concerns well as far as I can tell the families of the Aurora shooting victims have not seen the film they're they're reacting to kind live coverage of the pitcher and and they say that you know when their letter they say that that they've heard that it presents the character as a as a protagonist with a sympathetic origin origin story and and that gave them pause and they're they're very clear though they're they're not asking Warner Brothers to not release the movie they say that they support the right to free speech and free expression but then they also sort of take a page out of Spiderman and say with with great power comes great responsibility so they're using this film to Urge Warner Brothers and its parent company Warner Media and I suppose at and T. as an extension extension to become more involved in the issue of gun reform and they're asking for the company to support of certain in sort of specific means of of social engagement they're asking them to end political contributions to candidates who who take money from the NRA they're asking them to used their their clout and their platform to pressure Congress to act for gun reform and they're also asking them to help fund survivor funds and and gun violence intervention programs and it seems like the conversation around joker is part of a broader conversation around violence in Hollywood your or editor in chief. Claudia eller wrote an op Ed for variety around the time that blunt house productions film the hunt was dropped by universal pictures. The headline on that piece is why it's time for Hollywood to reconsider the amount of violence on screen so even if the families from Aurora are not really asking Warner Brothers to limit the violence that is in their movies it does feel like these things are starting to percolate up and there might might be a bigger conversation. That's either about to happen or is already happening. Absolutely I mean I think that that this is a conversation that that's been happening for a while. It's interesting I talked to someone named Igor Volk Street and he runs an organization called guns down America and he helped craft this letter and I actually asked him sort of specifically if they were implying that that there was a connection between onscreen violence and and and gun violence and he was very careful and he said actually science doesn't back that up and that that they aren't contending that but just because he thinks that it doesn't mean that other people don't and I think it's a debate that's going to continue through the release of joker and onto the release of other violent movies that Hollywood backs. I WANNA play a a little bit of what Joker Director Todd Phillips and star Joaquin Phoenix said about this issue in an interview with the website jeon. There have been a lot of pieces written by people people who proudly state they haven't even seen the movie and they don't need to. I would just argue that you might want to watch the movie you might want to watch it with an open mind. The movie make statements about lack of love childhood trauma lack of compassion in the world and I think people can handle that message. It's it's it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable for for all of us. I think we all are aware of these issues and we are concerned. I think that's why we talk about it I. I don't think that we can be afraid to talk about it so they're offering this defense but it feels like this debate is probably GonNa get a lot more interesting really soon around movies like this absolutely and as you mentioned it already existed around the hunt now I will just say that as somebody. I'm not a critic but I did see joker and I can't say that I thought that it had a lot of profound things to say about violence in America or what what what Spurs people to violent action I didn't think that that anything there was was terribly deep to me it sort of played like a riff on Scorsese films like taxi driver or King of comedy movies that had a little more depth but that's my personal opinion and is it possible Zabol that this whole debate could affect the way the film has received might have some consequences. I think it definitely could it could have consequences on the box office. If people you know have safety concerns of some kind I it could have consequences on its awards chances because joker is being positioned as an awards play by Warner brothers Joaquin Phoenix who stars as the title character's was received a great deal of claim but if the film becomes too controversial potentially not that that kills its its Oscar chances so there's a lot of impact financially critically in in terms of awards Brent Lang is is the executive editor for film and Media at Variety Joker opens in theaters October fourth brand. Thanks much for coming back on the show. Thanks for having me.
"todd phillips" Discussed on Collider Movie Talk
"If due date eight was inspired by the making of the hangover junior said he was in a way playing Todd Phillips in that movie and that movie sort of Todd Phillips it Robert Downey junior forced was to travel across the country with this unbearable clown played by Zach Galifianakis who is sorta doing a heightened version of his performance and tormenting Robert the opportune junior the entire ride. It's interesting. He went on to play the joker in Lego Batman only only you only you would be able to express that in a way that actually makes sense talked. PHILLIPS ANZAC BACK together to make another DC villain film origin story. I actually wouldn't mind at seeing Phillips hone his craft by sticking with that like not necessarily making another joke movie but sticking with one or brothers and making more movies in the style and tone for other villains so if you guys had to make a guest right now hypothetically joker comes out beginning October eight is a smash hit. What do you think the next next announcement regarding these darker. DC films that WANNA brothers is going to make. I don't have any guesses right now at the U. I think we're going to need to wait a while before. Are we get any sort of confirmation just because even with this hitting we're GONNA get birds of prey very soon thereafter and the question is quickly going to become is this specific dark dark stylistic approach what's working or is the variety of the DC universe. We're building. What's working? I think I'll take it a step further further and say that when this movie comes out and when it is a smash head they are going to announce another movie done in the same style and tone for another bill and I think they're going to do it within maybe two weeks the movie's release. I think that one of brother is going to go to the more adult mature route while Marvel's going more family friendly so to speak because all the marvel films are pg thirteen for for the most part and so you know warner brothers and seeing something work here. They're going to keep exploring that. DC In Warner Brothers is actually a good position where again when and this movie is a success. They can have both sides operating because they've still got aquaman coming out. They've got they've got a lot of family friendly fare and now they can have the darker Parker stuff too so they are in pretty good shape right now. I wouldn't even mind seeing this approach being taken to characters that exist in I mean getting eating Michelle pfeiffer back his cat woman would be amazing you could do a cat woman movie stylized in a certain way that who wouldn't WanNa see that. I think you almost ruined the Post Joker announcement that I'm predicting because if it's not that I don't think it's ever GonNa hit that level for me that right there is what I want to be. Ooh Look like she says post. Batman like everyone's just old. I mean I just saw my head. I'd go to like different meals year one and take that version of cat woman woman mix it with the Michelle pfeiffer version Intel Oh my God. I can't remember that version of Kelman at all. I read that too okay. That sounds interesting on the last very into it Silas. Why do you have to make my expectations so high. Why can we bring back Michael Keaton ratify. We're going to do all that absolutely dark knight returns but with Michael Keaton. I mean Okay Yeah Yeah. I would love to see a Batman beyond adaptation with Michael Keaton. I would never say no to more Michael Keaton. Although I am very much looking to seeing Robert Robert Patterson's interpretation and as much as I want Michael Keaton I wanna see him get the spotlight for a little while so stick with Robert pens and I would also say in the Pantheon Jonah DC villains the ones that have been really emotional to me in the past primarily because the animated series are Mr Freeze and Klay face and both of those would be amazing into exploring. The film haven't gotten Mr Freeze right yet so we still need to do that. Maybe they'll bring Arnold back to to give him another go. Originally Louis Not Arnold they were Patrick Stewart who still like carousel would be amazing. Yes I agree with that one thousand percent okay. We've got We're we're all in agreement now. We want Michelle pfeiffer back as cat woman but we want the Patrick Stewart version of freeze sound good Patrick Stewart version of anything. I mean honestly he's so good feeling many out. There were two MR freeze especially. I think that actually suits him really really well. I don't know now I'm into it. we've got a lot to look forward to with the the blossoming of the darker. DC movies. I'm excited what they do next. How many of these do we get to have before people get exhausted Austin because it's like you said it's very very but the thing is you can you can keep doing a marvel tone for years and years and years because it's it's like it's positive is it. It's enjoyable but like the jokers are very dark dark story. I haven't seen it yet. You have but like I am. How many of those can you have before people are like okay. This is there's too much. I think it just comes down to what you have to say by. Challenging your audience with material like that. It's like if they continually come out with these really dark doc films that have something to say and continue because one of the cool things. I think about jokers no matter how you feel about it. It's going to be an interesting conversation. That's going to continue now now through award season. It's GonNa make you think it's going to challenge you and if they keep doing that and if they keep inspiring interesting conversation I think it could go on for awhile but it is. You know it's a fair fair point that when you have a crowd-pleaser it's like candy you could pop in your mouth over and over. You don't have to ever have enough of it but this this is something that I think will be leave very interesting too. Many out there and you know like it to me. It might upset some people out there and it's just gonNA lead to a really interesting conversation soon enough. I'm curious to know what you guys think when you see it too oh. I want to know what everybody thinks right now. Though I want to know what you guys think about Peacock I get why they did it for some reason. I'm just having a really tough time. I'm just rolling with that title but that is NBC's streaming platform and they have announced a whole bunch of new projects some older films and older shows that are going to be available the big question though with this is we have so much streaming content out there. We have Disney plus on the horizon. You Know Warner. Brothers is working on their thing. You know there's Hbo Mex- There's APP I go on and on with a list of streaming services that you could sign up for right now. Is there anything about the peacock lineup that makes you think this is a must. They got my money kind of I mean honestly the list. Disney stuff came out and while it's great and certainly worth the price they're charging. I did realize that as somebody who sort of hordes physical media my apartment's like like Hugh Jackman prisoners with food dude I have that with movies and I realize I own most of these movies that I care about already from collecting them and there's something about just sitcoms that that is kind of what I want from a streaming service I WANNA be able to turn it on in the background and not necessarily pay a lot of attention and it looks. It's like NBC's exactly that I'm like you. I have a lot of physical media but I like the idea of being able to like one of the cool things about Netflix before I get on a plane for instance is to download the movies right that that that you know and so with NBC if they give me that same option of interface is in just a muddy interface if this as sensible and simple as net flicks. I think it could be really strong and really cool like to be able to take all of frazier with me on a plane and just watch that for an hour twelve hour flight. I think that's awesome. Definitely comes is down to the content available but the downloadable feature to me is one of the biggest game changers because he s we all have Wifi in our lives almost twenty four seven but it's the time that you don't have it that you want something to occupy yourself like when I'm on a plane when I'm somewhere where there isn't a great connection and the movies and shows that I have found myself prioritizing or the things that I can download and guarantee. I can watch wherever whenever I want so in my mind at this point I really I'm up to my eyeballs and streaming service. Fee Is between you know. We have net flicks. That is a big priority to me. I'm not GonNa let that one go. Of course I love my shudder. I'm not letting that go i Aku Amazon and now Disney plus coming out I look at this and unless there is downloadable feature sure I can't necessarily find anything. That's GonNa make me jump in the battle. Star thing has me intrigued saved by the bell has me intrigued but even when I look at this lineup the films that they have for launch and I know they're going to add to this library. I mean I'm not even that big into physical media but I I own a lot of these yeah. There's a convenience factor for instance for me. I have the box set of breaking bad like the whole thing with the oh the barrel the barrel. Oh yes thank you and to load up a blu-ray for one episode would take like five minutes was the most aggravating thing whereas and I timed it I put on Netflix expl- breaking bad and it was like loading in two seconds a bypass all the garbage of what it takes when you own physical media which is so infuriating because I paid for are you. Why can't I skip. The warning can't skip all this crap and why can't blue is remember. I was last at like. It's so irritating well. That's a fair point seems like you know like why don't you just put the energy until they you know finding your place so that you don't have to spend the money but if I'm being honest I've done the same thing where I've bought something that I've owned just because I don't feel like getting up and putting my dvd player. I think this is the future though I feel like we're we're. GonNa have a like we already see it. There's going to be a bunch streaming services agency to come down in price because then we can have all of them and then it's like having channels again. You know we just swapped between services. Basically is yeah I mean and you get to choose what you WanNa have cable all right until we get there. I like playing this game with panelists especially now that we have another one in the mix now if you had to only subscribe to three streaming services says what would you choose and why Netflix Disney plus and probably this..
'Joker' Is Getting Serious Award Show Buzz
"This being the Oscar show we are of course talking about movies that may or may not contend for Oscar's just before we get began recording we were we're discussing the Venice Film Festival's winner of the Golden Lion and that movie of course Amanda is called Joker now jokers for those of you who've been sleeping under under a rock todd Phillips's. I guess you just described it aptly as a remake of taxi driver but with the joker we think that's what that movie is going to be. Neither you nor I have seen correct and until we see it. I think is going to be difficult for us to weigh in specifically on whether it's a problematic movie whether it's a wonderful movie. I don't know I also also just candidly I'm looking forward to it. Though I think we've started on the show a handful of times were not looking forward to the discourse around the movie that we don't have to look for it. It's already here. It's here. It's here I. I'm not really a part of it and I said that I would not be a part of it. I continue to not be in part because as you said we haven't seen it yes. We're only citing it here. Because the idea of joke entering the Oscar race I think is significant. I noted this over the weekend but just four of the previous forty Golden Lion winners have gone on to become best picture nominees two of those four of them in the past two years. Those movies are the shape of Water Roma both of which were if not major favorites significant contenders so it's possible that as as things evolve maybe Venice's evolving into perhaps a bellwether for the academy I it's very hard to say because in addition to joker being acknowledged they also acknowledged alledged Roman Polanski's new film officer and a spy which won the silver lion and it's notable that the academy expelled Roman Polanski last year from the academy so I do think that a festival like Venice which you and I discussed a couple of weeks ago as we previewed the season has the chance to significant significantly influence where we're going the season and I feel a complicated question in the sense that you and I are having this conversation now and a bunch of people lost their minds on twitter this weekend about joker winning the Golden Lion. I you know I think that happened on Saturday afternoon. A PS and you watched all the tweets role in it. Everyone being like Oh. Oh Shit Oscar racist change like Fam- It is early September calm down you know that is the nature of the Oscars at this. Wayne is like a bunch of people just like hidden at retrieve Biden and being like game changer so I guess it's a game changer I also so there was instant hand ringing ringing of being like a Venezia's responding to the discourse and they are saying no you will not shame us we will not that'd be politically correct which is like. They're not at all. It's Venice. It's just like a bunch of people taking boats around and being like we're having a nice international time like I promise Lucrecia Martel who is the president of the jury this year like did not read your tweets and doesn't care so to the extent that all of this okay so you're just you really feeling it right now and it's great. I just like Lucrecia. Martel was just chilling in a boat somewhere. That's what you're saying. She was in a Gondola. I hope she had what a great time watching hangover three director. She deserves it. I hope she got some time like on a plaza somewhere with an imperative because that's what you gotTa do when you go adventist okay it's not read stupid people's tweets about like what joker reflects about the twenty first century masculinity or whatever she doesn't care they. I don't care so in that sense no but in the sense that we are in a prison of our own making and all of the Oscar discourses now but because of people reacting and just kind of shutting each other across the void I just did a monologue about it and the Oscar Shell. You're participating of course participating and we say we're not going to and then we do. I think you definitely put your finger on something very smart. which is that the reactionary nature of certain movies or at least the way they're perceived to be reactionary canary invariably influences the races you know the green book conversation happened in part because there is at least the expectation that older members of the academy did not not want to be told what they could or could not like now joker is not exactly the same as green book even though we haven't seen joker? I feel pretty safe assumption that they don't have the same posture. Let's say but I do think that there is a chance that a movie like this could sneak. Its way in because of what you're saying because there is the sort of like. Don't tell tell me what kind of a movie I'm allowed to like not like. I'm not totally sure. Todd Phillips is not necessarily historically known as a awards filmmaker and Joaquin Phoenix INEX- is a bit of a circuitous personality in the world. You know he's not the kind of person who I think is going to go to one hundred after parties and kiss babies to get his nomination despite the fact that he's understood to be the master of his craft etc etc.. We'll have to just wait and see you know we're. We're not far away from seeing this movie. The only thing I would say flip side of that is that it would be so Oscars for them to finally recognized the Superhero Genre with this movie that is a remake of an odd to all the seventy s movies that these these academy jokers grew up on. I don't think that that would be a fair recognition of what soup the superhero genre is in the industry and I don't think that would be a fair recognition this movie which I haven't even seen but you can see you can see them get. The one thing I'll say is though there's one thing working for them working the thing working against it. The one thing we're going forward is the sort of like elevated seventies thing that you're mentioning which gives it a perhaps a measure of credibility in some people's minds. The flipside is this character has already been celebrated by the Academy Heath Ledger already one thing this character so we know that the academy is maybe more open to the idea of a chaos agent in its mix. You know what I'm saying yes but the academy recognizes like the King of England and a character like every three years so that doesn't doesn't really matter okay the one thing that we can say about joker is that it's clear that he is this week's winner of is he running because joker is running. It is clear the joker is here to stay for the Oscars conversation so we'll get into him more. I suspect that we'll do a little bit of a deep dive on the show in October. I WanNa ask you about the article the because it's very clearly titled Joker and calling I mean I understand that the joker is the character but I think they're also trying to do something by not having him be the joker. It's it's a word play has also he's a joker because we're all joker rate so the collective joke asking you. I want to set some intention for Oscar season. Are we going to call him. The joker are we just going to call him joker. Can we just see the movie and find out what if he's not the canonical joker. Tell okay. It's Ah you're editor. Brain is working on this Monday morning. We'll just have to wait and see because it's completely plausible that this is not operating in the traditional Batman Mythology. Oh Gee and so thus it's just a reference to how all leaders and men with power jokers of the world listen. I'm just trying to respect the film and the filmmakers occurs and engage with the text people. Don't think that I'm going to do that was movie but I am well. We appreciate your your candor. Openness and
"todd phillips" Discussed on Collider Movie Talk
"Today on movie job. We're talking about the recent interview Todd Phillips Talks about the joker and Batman movies not not connecting and of course we've got more news on tank girl. That's right Margot. Robbie is rebooting this thing we got director now. We're going to talk about it. All on collider movie talk moving to look at look at the way the local vibrant talk talk. Let's talk about this. We're GONNA do it today. Once again John Rocca sliding in four Perry Nemov Ralph we still up in the great white north doing God knows what's in God knows what she saw joker last night so follow her on twitter she's been dropping her reviews and we got a lot of reviews on the collider dot dot com YouTube channel as well with Perry telling us about a lot of the movies. She got a chance to see up there. I'm super jealous but hey I'm okay handling things down here on collided movies because I got to incredible notable people riding along with me here Haley back again after yesterday's survived and Marc Riley. Is there as well horry mark on good happy to be here as always yeah yeah the job. Thank you Haley. I'm surviving the TIFF crazies. We got a lot of reviews up on the DOT com to which means we got a lot less staff and it's Jeff Fun Time Yeah Yeah. It's a hot everyone at this table. One of the one of the things that happened at tiff was to the joker movie movie screen that was last night. A lot of people got who didn't get to see it probably in earlier screenings for Warner Brothers so already there have been some tweets out there from some newer critics who got had add their thoughts about it but we want to talk about this interview Todd Phillips did with variety he spoke with them about the Batman about joker movie and he was asked about about whether the Batman this is on the red carpet whether the Batman Mary's Batman Will Cross over in the joker movie where we see something in the bad man that is tied to the joker we will hawking walking Phoenix and Robert Pants go at it on screen. His answer was no definitely not and he went further with this and this is from Haley vouches article there on Dot Com. He reiterated the statement during a Qa at a tip screening on Monday night saying I don't see a connecting to anything in the future. This is just a movie. Well there you go. That's what you hear from from Todd Phillips. Hey let me go to Houston. wrote that piece up on this situation and these these responses from Todd Phillips a do you liked it. They're not connected. The Batman had an joker movie and to do you believe in a yes I do like that actually been pretty vocal supporter of this new direction. DC's going with no more insular filmed river film maker driven films well there is in there but but it's something I prefer to see right now and I think is leading to some interesting results especially based on the joker reaction that I I really enjoyed opera man. I I really enjoyed those movies. Are you know connected but they're they're very focused on one story and I think that by stepping even further removing having those connections at all you get to be weird or you get to be bolder you get to be R. rated and push the envelope and that's that's something that I find very exciting in addition to what they're doing in with like all commander-in-chief Zam so I'm all about that. Do I believe it. I believe that he believes it. I also believe that those aren't necessarily his decisions to make in the long run. Which is why when I wrote my article it was very much? He says you know very strongly at no but to answer answer a question that said anytime soon and things there's always wiggle room and and ultimately it's up to the studio so if they if they see that that's the best path forward than that could happen down the line but I definitely. I believe that it's not something we're seeing soon yeah. I think I'm I tend to agree with you. I have a hard time believing they take this vibe. Joking we that was from the beginning said to be something out of the mainstream out of the connective tissue of this universe and have Abbott on its own to all of a sudden now tie back into the Batman and is greatest would be this Robert Patterson and walking Phoenix go at it. I wonder Riley if this is something that we're missing. We're going to miss as fans getting a chance to see because of how this whole joker was presented and shot yeah. I don't know I mean mean the on one hand I Echo Haley sentiments. I love that they can go weird and have the freedom to do this without being tied to a universe universe that would include because if you're looking at Joaquin Phoenix he doesn't look like he fits in the world of an awful manner. Shes am. which is what I'm assuming Matt Reeves? Batman is going to somehow connect to the overall L. D. C. You so but take that out of it. I like the joker being a character study right now and not needing Bam having little Easter eggs in there because I believe Bruce Wayne earn persuade but Bruce Wayne's father so that's great now whether or not he shows up later and Todd Phillips is just line or or you know not mentioning in this yeah again studio politics. Maybe it's like further down the line I but again. Why do we need it really when it comes down down to this movie getting fantastic reviews right now I cannot wait to see this movie? Why be bogged down with that need for Batman? We're getting Batman with Robert Pattinson Hanson in another year or two fine. This is something that DC is doing that is separating itself from marble which is guess what we are going to make. Some weirdness ordnace happened. Call it whatever you want. DC ELSE WORLD DC dark whatever it may be. This is just a win win for fans that we can get a joker here. That's a wonderful wonderful performance that could be nominated could be an Oscar an Oscar for best actor for Joaquin Phoenix with the supporting actor for Heath Ledger and we all have that a- As fans and then years down the line we get a Batman movie with maybe paying win Navy ridler you know some of the reports are saying with not ribs or rumors I should say and then that sequel introduces a new joker whether it's jared Lehto or not or not but I don't think it's going to be walking Phoenix. Joaquin Phoenix wanted to do this because because of the character study because I don't think he was going to be roped into a number of films and have to do all these things because if you go back and I believe collider did some of these articles and revisiting doctor strange they were mentioning Joaquin Phoenix being up for doctor strange and he ultimately passed because I don't think he wants to as an artist be roped into a shared universe where it's like you have to show up in a new vendors for five minutes and say a couple of lines whatever it may be so this is just good for the fans more movies more weirdness more everything that we can have Batman we can have joker and go on from there yeah. This is all happening only because Robert Pass it didn't previous interview with Eddie where he kind of felt like he maybe unleashed a spoiler and then had to take it back and so that started the speculation it was the New York Bureau chief for variety Roman Sotoudeh he said at one point our conversation patents pants and offers a mundane comet of walking Venus who stars in Joker but movie he hasn't seen yet before asking to retract it. Oh Shit. He says adding that he's not accustomed to thinking about spoilers so people went insane with this so todd Phillips has to to address this situation. He wanted to bring that up because I think he's just he even said it. I'm not used to this kind of situation yet because I think even back in the twilight days. It wasn't like you know I wonder if you know that where Wolf is gonNA show up in in in the next movie or whatever it may be he might have made some kind of comment about Joaquin Gene Phoenix and then like oh just like star wars marvel and it. We can't talk about anything so let's not like. Can you please retract that. It could have been something so you know. Just a non sequitur could have been something just nonchalant. Just I would love it one day to have Joaquin Phoenix says I I respect him as an actor and then you know. DC DC don't do that. You know whatever it may be. I just don't buy that I I think he just made an off comment Haley if we get if we going all go see this joker moving it's incredible and it does win a best picture or best actor or what have you does that change the narrative here because if Matt Reeves Batman comes out and it feels tells like a gritty seventies eighties whatever gritty film that feels more in line with an art house film or the greatest of the seventies films then at that point we'd denying hang ourselves this possibility of seeing Joaquin Phoenix Joker Anna rubber bands and Batman in a better in a better constructed film that feels more. You hate that term but elevated what we've seen before maybe but I think that's one of those things you have to take. Take it as it comes. I mean we don't even know for sure the time period of Robert Film so we don't even know if that crossovers possible or it would make sense and I think that really you do eventually run into the problem of what Riley was talking about which is that walking Phoenix. Just isn't a franchise guy so there's there's a limit limit there too. I think how long that can go on unless maybe he finds that he totally loves this experience and and maybe you know warners as willing to really hold back on press in some regards to accommodate that actor that I could see that happening if he wins the Oscar and all of that but I just think that ideally really that's something you come to after both films are released and then you re address where your you know where your film franchises at what it needs what it doesn't need and what suits it's the story for both characters and certainly would be interesting. If by the time the Batman comes out pattison might be what thirty four thirty five at that point by the time it comes out walking a little older so now if the if the possibility of the future where you get an older joker against a younger Batman. There's some real interest on that point but yeah I think what you say initially is Greg Phillips back to some he he had to chase him down. He didn't WanNa do multiple things and multiple movies yeah. That's how you got Joaquin Phoenix this. This movie is by all accounts weird takes. Chances is making people feel uncomfortable. It's it's it's people are throwing out masterpiece. These there are things that you associate with Joaquin Phoenix. You think a studio like Warner Brothers whose Batman was needed to be added to a superman movie because they were worried worried about the man of steel box office so they had dawn of justice. Come instead of Amana steal too right. I don't think I don't think Warner Brothers Batman. Is there like there everything. I don't think they could get Joaquin to be interested in a movie. That's going to play it for the most part a little bit safe right as far as the Batman character is concerned learned Morse mainstream of pro game. They not mainstream for their superhero movies. This is a chance this is taking a chance for sure but that's how you get Joaquin. If if you WANNA get Joaquin in a joker in Batman movie make a Weird Batman Movie aac Batman movie that takes chances and do it that way but I don't think warner brothers would ever go there because he's the crown jewel of their characters yeah well we're going to the joker comes out October fourth so you know all of us can't wait. Hopefully we'll get early screenings. We'll see but the Batman is scheduled to be released on June twenty fifth twenty twenty one one less thing. I want to throw in here which is pretty incredible. He Phillips another interview here where we talked about things things with the New York Times he talked about said he was walking was not keen on jumping into the costume at any comic book movie he kept trying to ask him over and over again and he didn't he net walkie. Lucky never said yesterday the role he just kept asking questions until he got all the way onto the set so we never officially ever said yesterday was going to be the movie and here he is playing the joke movie and the one thing thing is struck me as well as he lost fifty two pounds to play this character and when they asked with anyone else he wanted to be in the character to play the role Phillips said we wrote it for walking. Yes no one else they wanted in. If I've got a couple of chat things here okay king and commoner says what other villain would you want to see an out of Universe standalone movie are- four like mister freeze possibly are we talking. DC or retarded with talking any talk okay. That's a good question also I I well. It's not one but I've always really wanted to see a Harley and I leap ivy movie that way top of the list for me and I know we're getting birds of prey but very specifically the pairing Harley and Ivy is a passion of mine. I like that idea..
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"todd phillips" Discussed on Kickass News
"Can you tell us anything about that? I'm sworn to secrecy. But but I do believe that keen Phoenix will probably win an Oscar. Okay. He's not he was so in character. I was there for five days in the same room. He never hid him and said hi or by he never looked at me. You know, there was one point. He looked at me because we have committed thing to say. But I I was just I've never seen anybody that committed. Well, just like is this kind of friendly or whatever not in character. I was like all right. Well, I'm definitely not that kind of actor. I don't know how you do it. I mean, I think he lost a crazy amount of weight. And but he's so good like he says so unpredictable and so good in it and the script is like Todd Phillips is so funny too. Because I said to Todd was like, how do you write a script like this, dude, you run it with that guy wrote eight mile, you know, he's like, well, this is the twentieth draft or something guiding how long take it. Right. Your special like, oh, yeah. Two and a half years. Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah. That's you know, but he's he's taught is this is I'll say this about the movie if the script is any judge. This is a this will prove what a versatile. Great filmmaker. That guy is is funny. It's it's that's the wrong word. Okay. Well, I just have to ask because rumors the backstory is that he's like eighties failed eighty standup comic. And that's the like, and then he goes bad or something that'd be like saying basketball is taking a leather bladder and throwing it into a net. It's so much more than that. Okay. Okay. It's a it's going to be a really really good movie. We'll Brian's comedy special complicated..
Netflix Sets Title for ‘Haunting of Hill House’ Season 2 – Which Is Definitely Not About Hill House (Video)
"The hunting of hill house season two is in development. And we now know what it is going to be about Chris tell us about it. Yeah. There have been rumors that Netflix was interested in a second season. And at the time, it seemed kind of unlikely because the first season of he'll house wraps everything up pretty well and adapts one book and so on and so forth. But now we know there is a second season and rather than taking a traditional approach, Mike, Flanagan and Netflix. They're gonna turn it into an anthology series sort of similar to what AMC is doing with the terror. So each season is going to be a new story and while the first season adapted. Shirley Jackson's the haunting pill house season two will be adapting Henry James's the turn of the screw. Which is another classic ghost story. It's been adapted into a film into films. If you times before the innocence is probably the best example of this, very spooky black and white are movie. And this is really cool. I'm very excited. This I loved the haunting hill house per season. And I really liked turn of the screw. I think Mike Flanagan is very talented and undis- gonna assume because this is what I hill house. Did it's going to take a lot of liberties with the book because he'll house only really took like names in certain ideas, and then created its its whole like new thing. And I'm guessing that's what they're gonna do with this as well if they're taking that many liberties, why do they even need something to adapt with the second season. I mean, you know, there's brand recognition. I guess I guess it's also like a framework. Work because he'll house it borrowed ideas and frameworks stuff from the book. And I'm guessing this is gonna take that singer a framework where turn a screw it's about a governess who is hired to watch over to orphans, and she becomes convinced. The the mansion she's washing them in is haunted and the kids could see them. But at the same time, the book is very ambiguous in that. Maybe there aren't really go species. Just crazy. So I'm guessing they're going to use that formula where there's a woman who thinks house is haunted, but maybe she's nuts. That's what I'm guessing. They're going to use that as a springboard to create something new Jakup. I know you were a huge fan of this first season. What do you think of this news? Yeah. The first season's phenomenal. Mike Flanagan is phenomenal. I love this idea. I have not read the turn of the screw by have seen the innocence. And I feel that we have this idea the older horror films aren't scary. There could be spookier interesting. But the innocence is scary it holds up as a genuinely unsettling go story. Even though it's my God. Six years old now. So it's I'm very excited by this idea of with funding did in extent what Chris said is he took what Shirley Jackson was with the hanging Phil house and took two Matic core. And built it out in ways that were more personal to him or person was writing staff and transform those ideas into something that was passionate and personal to him as a storyteller. So like, I'm taking this. This very different goes story with very different ideas. And you know, remixing through his lens in the style of the first season that is incredibly exciting. And I am all for more. Great anthology driven hard to sounds like it's such. It's such a great idea to get more cool go stories in front of right
Hulk Hogan biopic in the works at Netflix with Chris Hemsworth to portray Hulkster
"Pretty crazy. Chris Hemsworth is set to play hulk HOGAN. A movie about hall's life. Yes. Todd Phillips to drag movie while Scott, silver will write it. The two are currently working on the upcoming DC comic movie. The joker sources say the biopic is going to focus on Hogan's rise and is described as an origin story of the hawks are