17 Burst results for "Toby Ziegler"
"toby ziegler" Discussed on Parenting Roundabout
"I am with this. One or richard. Also <hes> in the very the end of the previous episode richard schiff as toby ziegler has confessed to being the leak about the space shuttle and so this is everything everything that happens once he's made that confession and i mean it it when we listen to the west wing podcast a couple weeks ago they had the director alex graves on any talked about how unlike the script but then once he figured out how to shoot it he was fine and then in the podcast for this week they talked about how wonderful on amazing it was the way he shot it which was first of all in the dark and second of all nobody was ever seen like head on normal. Everything was like through open window through a mirror. You know through the doorway you know you're looking at the back of someone's head when they're the one who's speaking. Yes i ooh my goodness and it's like. Isn't it clever that we'd never almost the entire episode. We never really see mister frost psyches this mysterious figure except that he's been browbeat browbeat. He was talking to vinegar in the men's room he was talking to c._j. In our offices not like we were seeing this guy before is managing bailable so it's it was just all so oh self-consciously you know okay. What's a non typical way. We can shoot this scene. I know let's do it from the floor from under under the desk and look up c. j. skirt they do that one. Thank god but i think it was probably on the on the list. It's just <hes>. I didn't remember until you just set it that that alex graves said he had a problem with the script until he figured out how to shoot and i think this is the way it went. He read the script and he said oh my goodness this. This is the worst pile of steaming fo- sorkin we've had in the years since aaron has left. There is no even the best actors in the world are not gonna be able able to make this work. The only hope is that if i do enough weird camera angles and shots that's what everybody will be talking about. The <unk> c._j. Is practically singing gilbert and sullivan to the guy in the sit room. The who we all hate <unk> kate is making little cutesy quips there. There's no way to professional women in that very testosterone heavy. Sit room would be doing any of that but i know let's shoot it from the light fixture. Let's shoot it through the the back of the just like the script was horrible. The writing was so bad and the aspirin at the plot. Yeah i mean i'm not even get into the plot development yet. Just it was it was it's been difficult the writers of an having difficulty with the language for a long time this was i think the worst there was just so much porce poor allison janney had say these he's lines which given the emotional nature of the timing if you are not in the mood for hutchinson to be giving you lip you know. I don't think that you're gonna go often to a five minute. Circus circuitous word salad to tell him that is just awful. It is awful from beginning to end. It was awful because i don't like what they did for toby and i don't believe a word of it. It was awful because if he were going to have bartlett be nasty to him then then let bartlett be nasty him man. I want there to be blood on the floor. I want there to be swept flung about. I want seventeen people. I don't want this sort of well. They have on the script that i need to say these nasty things so i'm just gonna read them off the piece of paper and then send him on his way just everything about it was wrong but in an effort to be a more positive person i am trying to do. I would like to call out a few things in this episode that i enjoyed enjoyed. I usually enjoyed the moment where toby is escorted to the roosevelt room and they have to clear out a meeting and the people having the meeting like we had this room there was nothing else on the schedule and then they get out and then they all gather up their doughnuts and cups of coffee and the paper right take a little bit of business getting out of the room. Yeah i enjoyed that that was shot normally so much. We didn't have a coffee cup cam as they left. I enjoyed whether it was kind of a missed opportunity but i did sort of enjoy somebody asking for it and larry's last names would have just just completely changed my opinion due to the episode if toby had said you know. I don't know if they have lost right. It's larry but they in writing it down because we should not have the satisfaction of knowing they're less impressed but still that that was good. I enjoyed that and i did enjoy the second whereafter whereafter elliott made it clear why they probably want to get married really quickly as i'm saying oh my gosh is she. Drinking champagne abby took less safe way self-named peo- dr bartlett yes <hes> and <hes> and it was just a very like she just moved it has has it not just just a just as she's walking out. I really liked that and i did also kind of get a giggle. When the the president was giving his his his announcement to the people about the leak which just seemed weirdly spoken. Just i can't imagine it. It just seemed wrong the way it was being said in half toby the right at forum that's right well whatever but he he says talk to a reporter at the new york times newspaper so casey really thinking it was the new york times t._v. Show as you want to be specific. It was the new york times. News was a newspaper while i go. He ladies lock it out hearing that going. Oh man he's also used. He used the term <hes> fired which i don't think he would use at me i think he would. I'd say you know was i don't know yes. He was terminated. Are something abrupt c._j. Got a gander of that in its why she rushed immediately to will's office drag earning that. I enjoyed that choice of words. That was kind of awesome. We've seen c._j. C._j. dragoon people before but i don't think she's used that word for it. So <hes> so those were those gave me a little a little levity in the course of an episode that otherwise i just thought stink to high oven. I just i hated. I hated the filming. I hated the things that were happening. I hated the a the script most of all just it was awful episode and i'm stunned that on the west one weekly podcast this. This was like one of their faves. No no no no no no not not good at all and i mean certainly the acting <hes> in that initial opening scene and why they felt they had to repeat the entire scene from the week before <hes> yeah other than just i mean it was interesting testing to see that at the point where he confesses. It's sort of like the you know the temperature of the room drops twenty degrees and then she's got the the guy from the counsel's office in and they've got to just sit there staring at each other and i guess you sort of need the first half of the scene to get that second half of the scene but i think you could have put that in previously i think we would have remembered from the week before yeah paulie. I have done this before but yes usually a little shift in perspective or they do it slightly different which didn't really here yeah and it's also made me think of all the other times this show his so gloriously used odd camera angles you know ian in in moderation to back like there's one where somebody's telling the president something through a window as they did here but it was so much more effective wasn't he was either telling him that mrs landingham was dead or that <hes> that that zoe had been kidnapped. I don't remember which but i remember seeing leo give the president bad news and he kinda tilted his head and you could see this through that sort of model glass so don't give that to me again with your cheap cheap bag directs and the the what is the episode where they're they're all walking through the halls of the white house while brothers in arms plays and you know it starts out you're looking at their feet and then it slowly slowly you get the whole thing of them going gets to cathedrals and that was so it's like you know don't stay. You're already destroying toby. Don't stay a member of all other other good episodes where this show did that so very well because they know that you do not have to be doing it the entire episode so i don't know i feel very very very very grouchy about this. Whole thing. I feel grouchy about the episode. I feel grouchy about the west were widely podcast episode. I'm glad richard schiff came on there to explain how disappointed he was was and how as much as ritchie kept saying no see. This is how i figured it out. This is how it works seat seat. Don't drag it now. He's going no. It's still as you are wrong. But i mean you can fan went this. All you want you can come up with with explanations for why toby my dude a lot of people who've have come up with lots of explanations for who he is taking the fall for and why and okay that's there's a whole there's a whole industry for that. Go ahead have a good time but should is exactly right that you have to lay the groundwork for any of that. If you want to say okay i see reasons. Why toby would do that then you. You have to see toby thinking about it. You have to see toby. You know you can't just bring it out of nowhere and i i mean it's not an issue is rushing with saying. Oh westering is so smart it. Lets people think for themselves. Island think for myself. I don't have to script for myself. I don't wanna have to you have scenes in my mind that they skipped over. It's it's it's it's character development. You can't skip character development and this is a character that that we've known for some seasons example. We can't change how he behaves. Eleven you our cannot cannot you cannot it would have taken one seen them talking to somebody about it or one scene of him watching something on t._v. About it and looking looking concerned wouldn't have taken a lot like we are smart as viewers but it's got to be something when you think of all the the false all the red red herrings. They threw all over c._j. All the time they spent building up wife she was the one who did it and then no. It's this guy right but and now our left with. Why did she call greg brock seventy billion especially since restore establish the greg bogue brock has a wife and child. He's leaving as he goes to prison so you can't even think it's that yes so exactly it's just tons of open plot threads and then we're supposed to just tie them up as we see fit. It's sloppy. It's terrible. I hated at you feel about the episode. I felt much like you did. Dan and i was glad that we got to hear directly from rich. Yes by listening to the west podcast on even if we had to listen to for five minutes of josh rushing defending the episode we got to shift <hes> but but <hes>.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120
"It's projected depending on who you talk to somewhere between twenty thirty two and twenty thirty four the trust funds going to be depleted. And at that time, if congress doesn't do anything. In the meantime, social security benefits are going to be cut twenty three percent across the board. And that's going to result in a tax increase of twenty five percent for working Americans as congress tries to prevent the benefit cut that is going to occur to retirees. So this was nothing new west wing was covering this on its series twenty years ago. A number of retirees is going to double if we do nothing. The trust fund will go broke. I've been telling you that on this show for how many weeks now on the program and Toby Ziegler the commute. Indications director to president Jeb Bartlett was saying this back in nineteen ninety nine social security is the third rail of American politics touch it in your guy. And that's exactly why nothing's been done about. This. Are you willing to let the trust from go completely broke? Because let's face it that will lead to the mother of all tax increases or the total collapse of the system. And that's the message. We're trying to get across to American consumers. This isn't a problem. We can afford to ignore if you ignore it. It doesn't go away. And part of the reason that people aren't dealing with it is because people are confused questions. All these reports say it's going broke if we don't fix it. But if we all pay into it. Why don't we just get our money back? We retire your social security taxes for today's retirees somebody else's taxes paid for my are tyrant because when that baby boomers retire. They'll only be two people working for every retiree down for forty two workers per retiree on the system started. And that's really the crux of the issue. We can blame this whole thing on longevity and longevity the notion that people are living longer than ever isn't anything. New Americans are retiring in their sixties living until their eighties. I didn't intend to pay for twenty years shuffleboard. And so, yeah, we've got to fix this. And yes, we are going to fix it. There's no choice. The only question is when do we fix it? If we fix it. Now, the difficulty in fixing it's not that big a deal the tax increases the benefit cuts won't be very significant or severe. It'll be an annoyance not a crisis the longer we. Wait to fix it. The bigger the crisis becomes the bigger the benefit cuts, the bigger the tax increases. So we're going to fix it. But when we do don't expect anybody to be terribly happy about it. It says here that before social security half of all seniors died in poverty, and now almost none. Do. You must have been a pretty great day when they passed it during the Florida bait one Republican called it the lash of the dictator. Slave workers. On the far left dismissed it. As a. Cop-out to plug holes in a dying capitalist system. And so here we are twenty years later, we are still arguing over so many of the very same social and political issues that vexed the country way back when the producers of west wing that EMMY award winning TV series, we're dealing with back then so I guess a couple of morals to the story for us. All number one. Let's take a deep breath and relax that while we are wringing our hands and wrangling over these very serious issues. We need to recognize that we've been dealing with these issues before for those who say things are far worse today than they've ever been. No, they're not they're the same. They're serious as serious as before. But don't walk around saying things. Are far worse than ever. And that the political climate has gotten so terrible. The political climate is what it is. We've been in this political climate at least sense west wing was produced and that's twenty years ago. And let's also recognize that. Yeah. Progress believe it or not. Does get accomplished. There are three I'm sorry to say only three that I was able to count political issues from the TV series west wing that have been resolved same sex marriage. That was a big debate during that TV series. Of course, we now have laws allowing same sex marriage. The military don't ask don't tell policy towards gays in the armed forces. That was a huge debate in the early two thousands that has been resolved and assisted suicide in the state of Oregon that was a huge debate in Oregon. It remains a big debate nationally, but there's been resolution at least in the state of Oregon about doctors assisting with suicide it demonstrates that. We are in fact, capable of resolving intensely fierce debate over significant social issues in our nation. And that is why we must not give up. Hope we must not stop trying. We must continue to communicate and coordinate with our political adversaries, not our allies, but our adversaries so that we can reach common ground, and that is the work that we're doing here at element Financial Engines in conjunction with the bipartisan policy center to resolve the social security crisis that we're currently facing and we're not alone..
"toby ziegler" Discussed on Buzz Burbank News and Comment
"One of the most fascinating leads in that series. Was Toby Ziegler played to perfection by the great understated character. Actor Richard Schiff as the White House communications director Toby was among president Bartlett senior staffers holding a position at a similar rank and importance to Josh lyman's deputy chief of staff when we learned that hope Hicks, a former staffer with the vodka Trump's fashion. Brand was appointed to be Trump's communications director Toby's old job. I was genuinely shocked especially after Hicks confess. She knows very little about politics. Washy was significantly out of her gap than every way. There was comfort in her incompetence. How much damage could she really do at worst? She could make Trump look like an idiot in the press in that regard. He was doing fine all by himself. If hick sabotaged her own boss, I was fine with that. However, I had no idea she'd involve herself in a criminal conspiracy to obstruct Justice today, we learned to further confirmation that Hicks apparently aided in the president's obstruction of Justice in the wake of the bombshell story detailing how Don jR, Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with a fleet of Russians at Trump Tower to receive stolen documents hacked by the GRU Russia's military intelligence agency, Trump's former White House lawyer, Mark Corallo appeared on ABC news is the investigation podcast and detailed. How Hicks with the president in the room appeared to orchestrate a cover up of what really happened at Trump Tower in June twenty sixteen if you recall. Trump himself allegedly dictated a White House statement falsely claiming the meeting was about reopening Russia for adoptions. This is a big chunk of text. But I urge you to follow every word of Mark Kerala's description of what happened that day. And I just pointed out that the statement that they put out on Air Force One from air force. One was inaccurate that this was not going to go away. And because it was inaccurate. And an inaccurate statement. It was only going to inflame the story over the next few days, and eventually the New York Times and every other media outlet was going to get the truth. And then they were going to well the way they did. And so I pointed out that that the statement was inaccurate. And that there were documents that I I I understood there were documents that would prove that hope Hicks replied me when I when I said, look, they're, you know, they're documents. She said well, nobody's ever going to see those documents. Which made my throat dry up immediate land. And I just at that point. I just said miss president. We can't talk about this anymore. You've got to talk to you lose. And for me. It was just the fact that she was even that you would say something like that in the presence of the president United States that you would not be aware that that could be construed as obstruction. Right. The threat to withhold documents. Like, what does that mean? There's no one's ever going to see him waiting to destroy him. She complete lack of understanding of the situation was over. Ed Corolla went on to say that while they're apparently wasn't criminal intent this could become an issue in terms of an impeachable offense..
"toby ziegler" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio
"Like Justin slept. The basically just like oh God. It's coming in of all these chills and things go right up your arm. And then Danny Carey comes in. And it's ready to go go tongue. Judge. You would appreciate big tool fan. Yeah. I really care. I see this is if you understand what understand why I use that phrase right now as you've heard me say before. Yes, it makes my soccer often. We're all someone does that make your socks now. From the west way. Toby Toby Ziegler line uses at one time in the west wing. God I'd probably incorporate about ten or fifteen different lines in the west wing of really into west wing, not really into prince or tool. Yeah. Correct. Sound like my grandpa? All right. Eight eight seventy nine ninety four ninety four Paul charts in at twelve forty five to get back to the phones of Bruce the weatherman, Bruce. What's up, buddy? Hey, I haven't talked to you guys before I usually talk to your the show after you. But. I gotta tell ya. You gotta I gotta tell you listen yesterday. You said something that really stuck in my crawl Joe. First of all, I want to tell you how much I respect you for your knowledge. I'm in my seventies. I'm a retired meteorologist, and I think I know a lot about sports for all these years. But when I hear you beat the hammer, it's just unbelievable. Thank you. You're just unbelievable. I you're very kind. Thank you. But it's true. Get back. Now, let's stay where we were wafted house. Joe good. Unbelievable. Thank you, sir. Thank you before. We're gonna make you stick to the show. Well, you know, what do you got? Phillies Bruce all right on on the field. Oh, is that is that? What is that? What James told you went? Mike travel. Tell me whatever you wanna talk about. All right. First of all Mike trout is good friends with Carson Wentz true. And I since I'm in the meteorological community down here nor'easter. Nick Pittman is our meteorologist on local Atlantic City TV, and he knows Jim cantore very well from the Weather Channel and Jim cantore. He is very good friends with Mike trout. So you see this connection where we're going with this? My my buddies been trying to get him on local TV a long time, and he's still working on it. Now since Mike trout is here home in millville, which is just a few miles from where I live. So anyway, I can tell you that it has been said and and the word down here. Amongst us locals is that he doesn't wanna come back, and he would take less money to come back here to play with the Phillies, and because you could live at home with this parents for eighty one days eighty one games a year, and he's already made a massive fortune. Of course, and he's just not really that much inclined to want to just be the biggest here's the best player. But it's not it's not important to him to had the biggest salary. If you know what I'm going to be the biggest star certainly that. That's been pretty clear he you can be the best player without being like Odell Beckham is clearly into being a star. And it doesn't seem like Mike trout. Really cares that much in a way that appealing more here. I wanna. Tell you something yesterday you made a comment about well. When's this gonna want this amount of money, and that amount of money and does he really deserve it. Here's what I know about Carson Wentz from coming back from the other direction. Carson Wentz is the kinda guy he wanted to win that Super Bowl so pit and he knows he needs other players around him to get back there to win one. So he's more inclined to take less money. Then you may think he is. So that we can low back up the offensive line in front of them. Get some deep threats and be able to play and say, listen, I wanna make us money anyway might bay Bruce wonderful, call calls more often. We appreciate that. Great call man. Listen, maybe I think that's a factor with him. Maybe. But I don't I don't assume it I mean, here's the thing. I've always found this to be a strange dynamic the like when a guy for lack of a better way to put it. Sure gets to choose how much he wants to make. Because that's essentially what Bruce is saying BRUCE'S saying, basically, he can get axe. He's willing to take X minus something and he'll take x minus. So let's say it's like he could get thirty million. He's like. I'll settle in at twenty four million a year. Now, maybe he will. I know this. Don happen that off. Right. And I don't I don't think it's going to happen this way. But I don't think he's going to make thirty million either. He'll get I mean, you can get more. James he wants it. Yeah. And that's been and that's been my point is what it's worth. And I agree with you. It is so rare. I mean, cliff Lee that was one of the really rare situation where he actually took last two gummier was also tied into his daughter, Lauren. And all that. What I will say is of all the players who these types of things are talked about Mike trout does seem like the type of dude who cares about other things more. So than I mean, and and again, this is all like, you said, usually they just take the most money the players union is going to be fighting for him to take the most money all that stuff. But Mike trout does seem like the type I mean with all the major league baseball wanting to promote and using one. We'll say, okay. Let's talk to Manny. Manny, you're on wwl pay. Hey, hi, no, good. Many good hearing from you. Manny great. A question that they've been Padron on my mind me. Okay. Is it a portent for Carson Wentz to make the playoffs this year to get that playoff area hundred percent men? Yes. I think he absolutely. We need to see that. And I think he needs that in his in his career, right? And you know, where I actually think it matters more Manny than what maybe John leading to. I'm not sure. What the chatter will be if he doesn't not maybe the actual reality of him playing whatever that playoff experiences, which I guess matters. But you can just roll it forward pretty easily where if they don't make the playoffs this year. Now, you're in the next year. Let's let's just say spin it for let's say they make the playoffs but don't win a playoff game next year. And that's no no guarantee that even make the playoffs. Now, you're entering your five. And you know, the conversation out there amongst psalm is going to be he's never wanna playoff game. And now you're off to the races. Sure with the kind of criticism that sometimes not always, but sometimes can kind of start piling up on a guy, right, right? That's that's how I said you agree. Yeah. I agree with that. I would just thinking I was just wondering, you know. Do we need that experience male? Or do we roll it? I mean, I think the I think the bigger thing is how much does it actually matter. And I I really don't know the answer to that question. I mean, we we saw Tom Brady have more experience than anybody ever last year and lost the Nick foles. Yeah. Played in one playoff game. So I have long wondered, you know, how much does experience actually matter in sports, and I don't know the answer. I don't know that there is an answer. I guess we could do some kind of study and take thousands of examples of an experienced person versus a non experienced into not. People look just better in those situations and others. There's also this factor. If you wanna get analytical about it, the experienced person is probably typically better than the inexperienced in that. They. Great before finishing their better. I mean, just you know, no, Russell Wilson can come up quick make the playoffs for the first time. Second time win the Super Bowl. Yeah. So there are exceptions to the rule of lately. Manny hit me up here with the famous. I okay, let's go back to nineteen seventy nine September two seven the first ESPN show. Just an answer it there. It's a very, and I believe I think I know the first person appearing to I believe it was George grant. I think that wasn't what I was gonna say. Think George Graham was one of the first and can I don't remember George grant at ESPN? I just remember hearing about it when they show him. I think I think of George grand with something else tied in Philadelphia sports baseball. Can you name it? I can't bartered George grant and baseball can't. I can't yours grand. I am almost certain was the let's call a master of ceremonies at Cooperstown. When Richie and Schmidt. Yes. I am almost certain George GRANDE was that guy because he made a hit some line about. It's a Ciaran everyone went wild. And I go back and watch Richie speech. A while. I've watched it. Oh, I don't do it often. But I've seen it before facing back, especially the final minute final minute of the speeches. Just magic just he's he's waited so long to. Yup. Tremendous softer Todd in south Philadelphia. Todd, you're on WIP EEO guys. How you doing? What's up? Nothing much. So Jalen mill may not be the hero that Gotha. I mean. Philly deserves right now. But he's the one that it needs desperate green gob. He's not the green goblin. He is the dark Knight. He needs to change it. He is here that the city needs. Because the thing is this defense is hurting without him. He's an energetic player a leader east great in the red zone. And everybody was yelling. Give us your still versatile came into play pursued bad. We see why they didn't want him playing. We need to come back into the Cowboys next week. We need him back to you know, what? You notice motto should be what how you like me. Now. Yes. Just like in Batman everybody for short period of time. Everybody was hunting Batman. And that's what he is everyone hunted and throughout the first eight weeks of the season. And now we need him back in order to make this playoff. I'd say whatever combination of those guys, and I put more stock in Maddix than Sidney Jones at this stage getting those guys back. Some combination of them are all of them is I guess, it's the innocence. The main thing that gives me hope that they can actually become let's say a balanced team where you can eliminate a massive weakness because they're taking the field right now with guys that are just I mean, it's just ridiculous. Some of those guys in the defensive backfield right now. I mean, it really it's it's the defensive backfield of the eagles right now is akin to the types of players. The Sixers had playing for them when they were tanking just guys that don't belong. That's what it is. It's it's Jakhar Samson. You know what? I mean. It's pick your don't pick on my boycott, whoever. Henry. Yeah. It is Alexei fed. All right. Gimme a famous. I give me a Bill Walsh with the first real west coast off ability, by the way, we were you are right. And the guy I had in mind was Leonard who is on the broadcast was the name to how about that. So. Yeah. Score another one for mayor. And is that is that where again another half a one four why half because it wasn't just m solo. That's almost say, okay. You say so keeping you in check. Let's talk to Grayson house, Grayson Allen doing this year, by the way anyone following him. Who's he play for? Give me Grayson Allen update. He got drafted by someone head. Yeah. I thought he get drafted by minutes to find out how Villanova players doing. I really haven't. Like what what's what's going on Brunson? I gotta look into this with the jazz. That's right for doing Grayson. And he is check all these currently averaging ten minutes tonight. Grayson Allen, four points point, two boards. Sobe out of the league in about four years. Let me tell you something..
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Look at this show that is entirely a behind the scenes. Look at the White House staff and what we get through this is restricted access. So for one episode, we get to see less than what we usually see because we're part of a film crew that doesn't have full access is just inane perhaps in anticipation t. reaction the first lines of this episode. Are why? That's the right question. Wow, that's almost too on the nose kind of is right. She's asking, why are we doing this? They should have ended it there. You know what? CJ you're right. There's no reason to do this. Well, I think conceptually this episode, I don't know for this fact, but I'm gonna speculate that this episode actually has its roots in an ER episode. The season opener from season four episode. One of season four is an episode called ambush in which a documentary crew. I feel like I've seen that episode and forgot about it. Yeah, yeah. Posts up in the hospital and they follow everyone round and there's an interesting set of overlaps in that the entire the same croon, its entirety of your mazing. I think both of these shows must be John wells ideas, but some interesting tie-ins besides just the concept, the episode guest stars, Lisa Eggleston as one of the directors of the documentary also guest stars, Nick Offerman. Plea, but the beast, one to me is the the episode was directed by Tommy Shlomi. Interesting. Wow. So a lot of shared DNA that episode, whatever you might want to say about the conceptual conceit. It was a huge, huge episode for ER. I mean, a lot of press or huge audience audience, all of that. Yeah. Well, I think so, I, I mean, I can understand then where the creative spark might have come for John, but I would have thought after a couple of minutes discussion, it would be clear that bringing a camera crew to cover CJ and her band of aids that we've never met before would be less than eliminating. I don't understand how that idea got out of committee. Right. I mean, I think it's fair. I think what you said is exactly right. I completely agree with you about the idea that the notion that a documentary crew is there to give you an inside look at what it's like to be a staffer in the White House is like, well, we've been tuned. This is season five, right? That's the premise of the show John. But one thing that I thought was interesting is that to have an episode that exists kind of outside of the world of the west wing, like we're all watching sort of within one framework of of the world, you know where we get to go behind closed doors because we're there with the characters were watching this TV show in which the characters, but this imagines a world outside of it. I think it's interesting because it gives us a chance to see how people who are not watching the west wing, get to view some of these people. Like if you didn't watch the show and and you're in the world of the west wing, what is your actual perspective on Toby Ziegler? It comes through things like this. So as a sort of an artifact of the world, I think it's really neat. I actually liked the idea. I probably would have been one of the people who voted out of committee in terms of the strength of the concept if that were sort of leaned into more, you know that this was presenting the conceit of inside access, but. Actually what it is showing what people outside of the White House or actually given and delivered except that even in that fictional world, we're told that they're seeing this after the Bartlett, administration is no more, which is also strange conceptual thing for this..
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Would you mind talking to me for a while and letting me just listen. This also reminded me of Dan in sports night. I don't know if you remember this isn't the episode Shane episode nine that just getting it's the hit and run Danny episode at the end. He's, you know, Dan is really discombobulated. And at the end, Casey says, do you want to find someplace in talk about it? Dances. Would be okay if I am. Just sit down. Shut down for of course. It's okay. What's going on. It'd be periods of time the conversation when I don't see anything. Funny. Long periods went on saying. It's also really nice moment, and I know that this is the era of Sorkin is over, but as Lawrence, a crossover, I thought both those, he did a very good job of it's interesting that he would touched on similar emotions. Yeah. I mean, I think this would have reminded me of Dan, regardless of what show I was watching, but the fact that the west wing made it feel more poignant. Let's talk about the the rest of Toby's storyline in here. Sure. He has to deal with the reps from the AFL CIO and I re- I like even at the very beginning of that part of the story, the way that he greets them in the lobby, you know that he's friends and familiar with these folks. He's friendly to everybody. He's saying Hello and he's starting to talk. And then he sees somebody else and he's like, oh, and he shakes their hand. Yeah, I loved all of that. These are his friends, really. I mean, like there's so many times when Toby has meetings where they're going to be contentious and he knows going into it, he's like ready for a fight. It was nice. See the figure. Toby Ziegler is a labor guy. Yeah, of course. It was a nice way of. Bringing that across without having to say Toby. Ziegler's of labor guy. Yeah, exactly, right. You see it, you feel that these are his people. Yeah. And I thought Ron dean was good as the sort of hafa esque spokesperson for the AFL CIO group. Yeah, right. The full disclosure page on IMDB features. He's still have me for some reason I'm telling you because will plays the pivotal. I don't wanna get too, don't own that. We're going to build up to it excited. I'm excited to find out how. While Toby is trying to go into the meeting with the union guys and Larry meet him and they, they wanna give Toby this info on China and the trade deficit, but he dismisses them. He has kind of a feel like TV in yuck neck of this. About politics won't help. Right? Yes. I read them that line to. Did you write knickknack? No, but that's what I was thinking. I was disappointed that at no point there was a lame joke made about artificially supporting a sagging Broad-market felt like being talked about the whole storyline was was leading to something along those lines and it never happened. There was a funny line though that Eddin Larry being the right guys to bring in to discuss bras. It was just weird. The experts. First of all, Richard performance of just the word bras is great. So end Larry then go to the other meeting and the other plot go from one be storyline to the other. That's right. They get into the base closure meeting that Josh is running and that Ryan keeps trying to sort of insert himself into. But there's a great part. Then when when the bras stuff comes up anyway, it turns out he has to he, he does need them. And so then Josh Gibson and says, hoping needs to talk to you about China. And as soon as he says, China, William Duffy, Larry looks at and gives him a grin like see with dole that guy to give up. Right? He's vindicated. Speaking of Bush, not Josh's finest moment when he inexplicably says the Chinese even need bras what the Josh that was that was the that was more than bumping on that was the needle. Scratches the vinyl record, the sound of extra me. I rode west stop talking. Why? Why? How? How did that make it out of committee me up? Oh, I know I had wrote Britain just stop talking because he had also said previously because reviewing cost benefit analysis for every military base in the country is mind numbing as Radiohead concerts..
"toby ziegler" Discussed on Rose Buddies
"And yeah i don't know it's a it is a fucking perfect movie there are so many things about it that are so like a head of its time and the fact that it did see g and sort of introduced it to like hey you can make movies this way and then for i don't know man eight years after words nobody was able to match the ads true it's kind of incredible and it was the only drastic park movie they ever made they made that they made it stopped on that high note the made it i don't know i haven't seen lost world or wait was three lost world which one vince vaughn in it i don't know anyway the first one's really good it's really on netflix right now to the original jp hell yeah let's tomorrow let's get henry like early into the dining think it'll be a little scary it's scary and big t rex only thing ever happened killing that goat that's fine the only thing i ever scared me an address park movies richard schiff got all eight up richard two oh he come on that's got to like combine a couple of your fears right it's probably why scared me so bad is because toby toby ziegler dig it at by the big t rex having somebody walk on all but it's not just like somebody like barging in like oh excuse me and then walking right back out it's a big dinosaur that my body shoot hey do you wanna hear some submissions from our friends yes i do okay mattie says even though they are a lot of work garage sales are wonderful seeing your old treasures finding homes at any price always makes me happy you got any fun garage sale memory did you your family ever do a garage sale when you're younger.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Those aimed at yourself all almost all of them but in that particular case the real goal was again it would be several episode process of introducing will to the audience getting him to be one of the gang i knew it was going to be important that i put him in a room with sort of the toughest guy in the jail yard right toby and he was going to have to stand toe to toe with them he's going to have to take a toby ziegler punch to the face and then respectfully punch him back and that's you know how he would be one of the gang well speaking of the the punch in the face we have a message here from richard from the punter actually about both to scenes that we've episodes we've just been talking about arctic radar and also twentyfive hello richard schiff i am contemplating season four our shortens writing which still sticks to my phone's runs in my blood two things come to mind that made me feel honored and grateful that season one arctic circle the episode where toby meets will when i read that episode i immediately recognized that aaron entrusted in me his personal nightmare the inability to masterfully put words to paper that his or her ability to create to compose has been lost and despite his stress and anxiety and the impossibility of acknowledging talent greater than his own the utter relief fields that help has arrived that led to one of my favorite scenes with josh molina in the cafeteria yet revealed for me the absolute sensation of feeling utterly and completely alone for toby street tilleke is now seeped into work which has been salvation from the personal frustrations with andy.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on Straight Talk with Ross Mathews
"Z's our investigative reporter he goes deeper than anyone else if that is so deep it's bone russ's stretch okay sure no they're thinking about bringing back the west wing reboot john and i did see that richard schiff who played toby ziegler was asked about it recently and he said it was top secret which was not a now that's that's right i would imagine and i hope that maybe like bradley whitford characters now president or something like that running so i don't know what's going to happen spoiler bradley whitford dozen i don't but people do die i think but yeah it's interesting that i'd be watching that now and they're talking about a reboot just didn't know if you heard about it are you excited are you gonna go see overboard overboard did you no not the new one original of course who's redoing who's doing the new little sorry the bill background for the people overboard is the classic oskar winning film just getting oscars but it plastic kurt russell and goldie hawn just eight bug baby if you have a baby will be the baby already gone i love of classic yes yeah so who's redoing ready eight is vaccine you can tell i don't know i don't know the name of the actress go ahead neo is and on a ferris on a ferris is the country bumpkin air e e dare bez is a rich socialite guy and then it's the same story is like the switched i don't like this already an angry they're saying that the pay amish to it like they pay homage to the original so i was just curious do you you're gonna see would you wanna see it.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Yes i have a little thing just a little minor thing but i'd like to find any kind of scandal west wing crossover who know that shonda rhimes is a big fan of the west wing and that david rosen the character that i play on scanning please was kind of an oma to david rosen who is mentioned as having been offered toby ziegler job i who i met when i met the real person at the democratic convention this last horrific election cycle when tell us about that now he's not that interesting apology and i guess did know is a fun is a fundraiser and he introduced himself as i'm david rosen from blah blah blah and that's it okay okay that's enough i said there's a little bit from josh it's it's the whole trying to get joe quincy to correct and say no i'm not a saw bones and then josh is a little bit competitive because he knows that donna thinks that joe quincy is cute and is a biscuit practice long i help a loss i write the laws and make the law i am the law in my mind this is echoed years later in my dialogue david rosen's dialogue on scandal you know what i love about my job i'm the good guy the law is on my side i am the law the law is me i it's more scandal style that i believe that's plagiarism you tell shonda i think she just aaron seventy five thousand dollars.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Oh by the way suzy cream cheese frank zappa singing about is a real person so toby ziegler is talking about says you she's there and her real name was susie zieger ear isn't that weird oh i didn't know that i gave you the two seder references are she said something blessing the soup i think this has nothing to do with normative judaism but mentions dipping twice at the seder we dip twice we tip green vegetables and salt water symbolic of tiers of our ancestors as they worked under slavery and we dipped the bitter herbs into rosset as we say in gaelic rosset rosset which is meant to look like mortar bricks and it's wine and nuts and for the buildings right virga that your ancestors made well i don't think there's any archaeological evidence but it's in the book i appreciate that cj is trying to hang with jewish friends making passover references i felt like i relate sometimes you get a since step on your jokes you've heard of a crossover episode passover episodes i just thought she was coming onto me at this point and so we're really talking about the title of the episode and the evidence of things not seen and the story that will tell so we find out later that will off to shine to fund these guys who didn't fire at what might have been an incoming north korean missile and what in fact turned out to be a mediator and i think there's a great view of this question throughout this episode and i think aren't talks about this feels weird every time i say because i like you guys are not on but anyway president aaron has a great view of this where if you have a prime directive which is to follow orders who you gonna do disobey them in order to do the right thing it comes up a little bit with the vicki hilton subplot that that was earlier and then here again with these guys are they in fact going to be court martialed for saving a bunch of lives for arguing this was our crimson tide episode.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"It was very i serve at the pleasure of the president and i remember each person stood up and i particularly you use book particularly movingly lead yet tears in your eyes and there was some question as to whether people wanted even to continue without tommy at the helm and erin as the creator writer of centrally every episode and i remember it finally got around to me and i was like not to be a buzzkill i just got here and i would like to show to continue still i'm very sad and you should know that i wish you guys would stay and then the meetings sort of banded on that now as as it should i'm a huge fan of yours and as i re watched this episode started acting like it getting mike i'm a huge fan of yours as soon as we're off mike i watched this episode but i could watch episode of toby ziegler consumes a lollipop there's something every moment is so fully invested and there is a lot going on with you even as you just look at cj and it's reflective of also what happened earlier i notice that in the fight or flight response competition will lose his handily and the pressroom because as the shots ring out we'll just hits the floor toby make sure that cj down and sit outside if that's not what happened you're an air force guy come on look boyle has contestants of mind to say it was three shots came from this direction but if you'll notice as soon as the shots rang out he's saving himself.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on How Did This Get Made?
"We'll we'll look jason what's up jerks how are we doing jason i i'm doing closer to the piano do you want you can move your chair no this is not gonna end up i gotta say gerard butler killing it baby live unstoppable i to say at a certain point i stopped taking notes because i was like i love this movie then love geo storm t us there was a moment in the beginning of this movie whereas like oh i thought it would be crazier and then forty five minutes and you're like oh there goes and toby ziegler coming wheeler alert never to be seen again senator toby ziegler this is a great movie especially that to become a thing oh like for people to just start screaming geo storm in public and answering questions as to why you did it i feel like the proper response to be to yell back kuma tei i feel like that would be the call and response apps or hurricane heist oh which come in for you hurricane heist any sewage you're up to we're coming for you it is coming to this podcast unfortunately was not in his long enough for us the coordinate a podcast recording but don't worry we'll be in you it'll be in the it tune stores soon enough.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"That she looks she looks a lot happier at the reunion red after well i touch deserve a kind of if you're going to go into the past and it is a high school reunion lust tasks to be lost with so much part of high school sure it back to his all about school really was lots taste except for math with lush tree and did you pay attention to reaction when the episode finally here i don't remember the reaction i remember someone saying to me that's the best non episode of the west wing i've ever seen that episode west but i didn't know what that even met i was proud of it but i have a deep scepticism of reactions there's something very punishing within me that insists on marching with my eyes straight ahead you must be the only writer of the arun era to have written an episode solely on your own he notes a one off so i note stands out in that sense one of the things i feel watching it is as is getting towards the end i'm sad because i know we're not going to go back to this place and to these people and this kennedy sucker punch of wondering how much cj is going to see these people again she says don't at one point us he next week we know she's not going to and it's the kind of like a doubly gutting to know that this is just an arena we won't see again not so sure cj well i would have liked to have done more of these sort of strange trips to wary to take responsibility for their other internal lives personal yeah yeah like uh i loved uh the president secretary so much amiss slamming how like i would have liked to followed her home of a night in an episode just before this be get a little taste of toby ziegler a richard schiff and his dad played by jerry out there in that that would have been another place that absolute the could have merited an entire episode i'm sure of course richard was miffed isn't richard way as i said but then i put him in a movie the next year called people i know they got to play with al pacino for a couple of hours and i think felt much better.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Was jakko which was close enough to josh were that you know we were constable rid business gets up our efforts let me ask you this was jakub the jokester yes he was the son of the real jokes that you're referring to my greatgrandfather who was one of the great pranksters or are times who rally insure yacht did things such as pretending to the a deafmute of motioning to two young women although re side that he couldn't talk to them but that kind of explaining that he needed to get home all the way up in the bronx that that he was a death new kind of not beauty capable of handling things favoured comey with him on the subway they will take him or her way home up to historic bridge point restarted say tanks a severe bags baths really were did you ever consider a calling josh yongchol no i didn't know until this episode that yongchol was the diminutive for jacob somehow it i don't know how that i missed that while one last thing a enough we can go there this episode of course and the the set in the fifties but we realise that's an anachronism as murder inc a kind of dissolved sometime in the 40s it's a bad toby ziegler and his discomfort with some of the doings of his father with regard to murder inc we have some connection do we can you speak obliquely of it well we we we did have a member of the family who had but i suppose i will say were some shady relationships among them and involvement in murder incorporated it is neither at one in the same time the highlight of our family history nor by any means something that we are thinking of a vino ashamed up i think it's if there was one thing that my dad pie to make clear to me early in life.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"With eric dickerson so now this is very interesting so z kiel elliott of the cowboys he comes back what in two weeks two weeks right two weeks so his agent so what is what is he been doing since he's been off do you know that uh what his agent contacted me actually about three or four weeks ago and asked me about coming over to cobble two diamante resort uh eddie toby ziegler the you know been working on 900 me that at long thus him in i don't know if i may it over so yes me lansing make you make it over you know just for a day for mexico golden echoed kawkaba macab of san lucas i said okay komo for day so i went over uh when i go through that what is the day i forget today is not thursday so i went over on tuesday when it won't tuesday and spent the night uh we know we worked at worked out a little bit that day hannah zekan ah and i talked to him you know i i just had to talk with digital about live footage out talked a little bit of everything you know i talked about along with an joe talked about football and atto asked him i said what do you want to do would you expect he surmised when it went play football in on what they know about this kid is that i i liked him i i do like men again i just built it we first came out i think he was a fool of himself a lot of the side 22 years old and we often forget that we were 22 years old once upon a time and um he was like i just wanna i just wondering playful by automobile exhaust gas it as the most important thing i said you play for the dallas cowboys in a we might not liked the cowboys but the cowboys a here and the rest of the nfl is kinda right in terms of in terms of spotlight you're absolutely right true institute truth essen you have an owner that cares about you he key loves his football players as they play for some of these owners in the league that don't care if you will like the ones you did you will see the difference right quick assay so as a man as a you and.
"toby ziegler" Discussed on The West Wing Weekly
"Josh you want to know some real h khan resolutions from our current one hundred and fifteen congress yahya h khan resolution thirteen supporting the local radio freedom act h khan twelve supporting the designation of the week of september eleven through seventeenth as patriot week this one i thought was quite relevant for our episode h khan resolution eleven expressing the sense of congress that jerusalem is the capital of israel and therefore consistent with location of other united states embassies the united states embassy in israel should be located in jerusalem who that is not a neutral age gun and a very good example i might say you could get into quite a debate about whether that view makes you a friend of israel or not that one is no resolution remembering the life of george washington yeah but they did have some more innocuous ones like directing the joint committee on the library to accept a statue commemorating the hungarian revolution of nineteen 56 replacement in the us capital while authorizing the use of the rotunda i ceremony for the presentation of the statue and directing the architect of the capital the places that you in a suitable permanent location in the capital earn another part that made me laugh really hard that whole seen the foreseen where they're going through the book i thought was really funny what we're doing is making out anything bigger smaller it's wrong anything i can use to taecker don't okay well right away i see one what i'm larry he's said i is that the first explicit i kanto at from larry joke no i think it's the second i liked it i liked it too but the combination of the joke you know where siege as saying um i can't make the joke funny but i just want to talk about what a joke is so funny when larry says harlow was playing a round of golf with toby ziegler the prickly mumbling communications director whose inner bitter darkness spelled the breakup of the one marriage we know about.