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Kimberley Johnson on How Trump Ruined Bipartisan Mainstream Media
"We you pointed this out, but it's just this mainstream media stuff just drives me insane. You were saying, I don't even hear them cover. They've covered Democrats doomed so many times. I know you're missing the Democrats and pulled ahead in generic polling. There's new polling showing Biden and Harris beating Trump beating desantis showing Harris beating desantis. And they just don't, they're so hard. They never report on that. Yeah. They're just so we D to this storyline, right? And meanwhile, like you said, I think roe is a huge thing, but I think it's not even the only thing. Like, look at the most legislatively successful president since LBJ with a 50 50 Senate. I mean, it is truly every barometer 50 year low in jobless. I mean, the jobless numbers just came out Friday. I mean, I don't know how you can spin it anymore that Biden is an incredibly successful. What do you make of the approval numbers for him because to me it's just this relentless mainstream media coverage that I don't know how we overcome it? Yeah, I mean, I think I know CNN, the guy who wants CNN is like Friends with Donald Trump. Obviously, these people who own, I don't know how many there are who own the major cable. And then obviously the big papers. You know, they're wealthy and unfortunately in some cases wealthy business owners, which prefer Republicans because they get all the tax breaks. And you know, and then they have the friendships and whatever. And I don't know the behind stories, but yeah, there's, you know, the fairness doctrine going away. Right. And 24/7 news that is reliant on views clicks and attention. I think that's where it's coming from an unfortunately people are more concerned about clicks and dollars than they are about just getting the news out. What we used to be as a country where it came to news and we could all no matter what party you were in, go to that ABC News NBC News CBS world news tonight, whatever it was. And we could all just, you know, we might not agree, but we all believed them. Right. No longer happened. We killed that. Right.
Democrats hit roadblock, but push Biden package in Senate
"I'm Julie Walker Senate Democrats push President Biden's health and climate built up passage in a stunning election year Turn around with the house to vote next the yays are 50 the NASA 50 the Senate being equally divided the vice president votes in the affirmative and the bill as amended is passed Vice president Kamala Harris who cast the tie breaking vote announcing the legislative victory The estimated $740 billion package is less ambitious than President Biden's original domestic gold but it embodies deep rooted party dreams of slowing global warming moderating pharmaceutical costs and taxing big corporations debate began Saturday and went around the clock into Sunday afternoon Democrats beat back some three dozen Republican efforts to torpedo the legislation the house seems on track to provide final congressional approval when it returns briefly from summer recess Friday I'm Julie Walker
Acuña, Rosario lead Braves past Mets 9-6 in NL East showdown
"The land of braves exploded for four runs in each of the first two innings and held on for a 9 to 6 win over the mets Eddie Rosario had a three run Homer and an RBI double Michael Harris two hits including his tenth Homer and he knows Atlanta trails the mets by three and a half in the NL east It means a lot It's a lot of history between us and the Met so you gotta go out there and try to win the series dominate early Like we did tonight and just try to get at least three more wins the rest of the series Why don't the Cunha had four hits met start a Taiwan walker allowed 8 runs getting knocked out in the second inning Mike mancuso New York
Democrats say they’ve reached agreement on economic package
"I Mike rossia reporting Senate Democrats say they've reached agreement on their economic package Senate Democrats reached agreement Thursday night on changes to their top priority economic legislation setting the stage for votes over the weekend Senator kyrsten sinema of Arizona said in a statement she had agreed to changes in the tax and energy provisions Earlier set up majority leader Chuck Schumer The American people overwhelmingly support these steps But Republicans led by minority leader Mitch McConnell appear uniformly opposed to the package Americans don't want it Democrats to regulate us into an even deeper recession With cinema on board Democrats expect to have 50 votes in the evenly split Senate with vice president Kamala Harris holding the tie breaking vote for passage Mike Gracia Washington
Dems consider changes to economic bill, weekend votes ahead
"I'm Mike rossia reporting Democrats consider changes to their economic bill with weekend votes ahead Senate Democrats are pondering changes to proposed taxes on the wealthy and big corporations as they ready for a weekend of marathon debate in the push to pass their election year economic legislation Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer Soon the Senate will vote on this groundbreaking legislation The bill includes hundreds of billions in spending tax credits to promote clean energy Beefed up tax collections and curbs on drug prices but Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell says Over the next two years and they do nothing to cut inflation in the long term With Republicans on track to uniformly oppose the legislation Democrats need all 50 of their caucus on board and that means getting support from Arizona centrist kyrsten sinema If cinema is on board vice president Kamala Harris would cast the deciding vote Mike Gracia Washington
Thanks Joe, But Dems Are Ready for More Energy Says Maury Blackman
"Let's talk about the democratic side, more, 'cause that's the other thing bob cesca or friend tweeted about this morning about polling, I think, has a lot to do with how the mainstream media portrays the Biden and politics in general. But secondarily, he said, you know, this is what I like about alpha liberals. It stands strong and stands strong for your leadership. If anything you're polling shows, is this a cult of Trump? They stand by Trump no matter. I mean, it doesn't matter how many crimes out crimes he commits, whereas what you're polling shows in other polls have shown, of course, are that Democrats are nervous already about Joe Biden. First of all, as you know politically, 2024 is a billion years away from now, right? But the thing is, Democrats are nervous, right? That's what basically came out of this. You have, here it is. Democrats have a clear message for President Biden don't run again by a margin of 23.61% to 38%. They reject another Biden run. The preferences include Kamala Harris at 21%, Hillary Clinton at 19% Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg's tied for third at 9%. Where do you see that coming from? Is it generation is a generational? Is it that, you know, but again, Fox News, all they cover 24/7 is Biden old Biden dementia Biden, you know, I mean, just first of all, a bunch of stuff that's not true, you know? But I don't know how much that plays into Democrats nervousness. What do you think? Is we love you? You did your job. You got Donald Trump out of office. Now we're ready for a new type of leadership. I think it's very clear to Americans that Joe's lost a little bit of a step and they're ready for a more energetic candidate in 2024. That's just my take.
Harris to announce $1B to states for floods, extreme heat
"The White House will make more than $1 billion available to states struggling with extreme heat and flooding From deadly flooding in Kentucky to wildfires in California the Biden administration says climate change is leading to extreme weather It is literally not figuratively a clear and present danger After the president last month announced his administration would help communities deal with soaring temperatures the vice president today will unveil grant programs to help areas handle climate related disasters She'll make the announcement in Miami after a briefing at the national hurricane center Famous chief says much of the money will go directly to communities that need it most Sagar Meghani Washington
Should Men and Women Be Separated in the Military?
"Always thought that men and women in the military, especially when you were co mingling them in certain things, it's not a good idea. And then you have women complaining about sexual harassment and all this other stuff. You do not need to have men and women in my opinion to be in the military together in certain situations. And people are going to get upset with me. I do not care. It's my opinion. And there's a lot of people that I like, and I may not agree with everything they say, but I don't go, I can't listen, that person not because I am. It's just true, man. A lot of police officers say the same thing if they wouldn't get fired over it. You know, he's like, nah, man. No, I need the baddest. I want the baddest dude on the police department. The baddest man you can find next to me when we have to go into the school.
Caller John Weighs In on the Female-Male Standards Debate
"John from Dallas Texas, welcome to the off Tatum show. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, thank you. Thank you for doing this service to our country. I just wanted to say that you're saying the things that conservatives are thinking in their mind. So thank you for that. Great question. Yes, quick comment on the women in the police force that you brought up earlier. I spent two tours in Afghanistan and I got to tell you that women do not work in combat too well. Emotionally, they're not the same as men and also physically. And then they had a study going about three years ago about women and special forces. And if you recall, they allowed women to start army ranger school and then they could stop any time they wanted and pick up where they left off. Well, after three attempts with a group of women, they finally decided that they had a lower the standards. So the standards are now lower for army ranger school, which now means that males who are who are now army rangers should not be army rangers because they have lowered the standards significantly to bring ladies in. And then I'll make one more comment and I'll let you talk. Guys have about 6 to 7. Sometimes 8 times more strength than women do. And I agree that there's some jobs that women should not be in. I'm not misogynistic. I'm not anti female, but I'm just saying that there's when it comes to war, you've got to be on point and you got to have the most lethal force on the battlefield that you can possibly derive. That's all I want to say. I'll let you let you talk. Thanks, John. I appreciate you letting me talk. I'm just choking. Thank you for the call. That was a good insight. I agree. I'm glad to hear people be bold enough to say it. And unfortunately, people do feel like they have to preface it and say I'm not misogynistic. I'm not anti woman or nothing, but let's just keep it real. There's not one woman that worked on a police department when I was there that I wouldn't rag doll. That means if I was a criminal and I want to fight them they have to shoot me. They had no chance against me.
US Offers to Swap Russian Arms Dealer for Griner and Whelan
"Brittany griner, I was just in the break in shout out to Sean for sending me this these articles. They are going to swap a convicted arms dealer, his name is Victor bout. I think I'm saying his name, right? They're going to swipe him or swap him for Brittany griner and also a U.S. Marine Paul Willem. I think it's probably, say, waylon. Waylon, I mean, waylon. Lord help me. So Brittany griner and Paul Whelan. I could be saying that wrong. That could be wheeling. I'm a call him waylon. Unless somebody tells me something different, but it's interesting that this guy Paul, the U.S. Marine was convicted or charged. It says that he was charged arrested on a ledge, espionage charges in 2018 and sentenced to 16 years in prison and a trial that the U.S. officials have called unfair. This man has, I'm assuming he has been in jail since 2018. And they said that the Whelan is Whelan then Whelan. I got bout right, but we live in it was wrong. So 2018, he's been in jail for that amount of time. And they ain't got nobody to swap out for him. This is stuff that I just don't get. This dude is a U.S. Marine, a former U.S. Marine. He served our country. I'm assuming he served us honorably. He goes over to another country and get caught up on some espionage stuff in 2008, and they ain't thought about him. But Brittany griner, go and take hashish or to another country that she know better than to do that.
Female Police Officers Are NOT the Same As Male Officers
"Back to the subject at hand, my little rant about female police officers. I just think people just get fake. I don't know why we gotta be fake as a society. You know, female police officers generally speaking aren't the same as male police officers, generally speaking. There's a few female officers that are bad to the bomb. I would agree to that. There's nobody that can deny that. And there was a few male officers that are not bad to the bone at all. However, I really do believe that we need to stop lying and everybody getting a trophy. We should have one standard to be a police officer of one PT standard. If you can't do 50 plus push ups, you shouldn't be a cop. Well, if you're gonna make the men do it, then you need to make everybody do it. Because I've been in plenty of situations where the female police officer was absolutely zero help. In a fight. They might as well not even been there. And I know I'm not the only police officer to say this, and I'm not saying this every female police officer. So don't get in your feelings. I'm saying that I know officers have experienced this just the same. You get on the call and you hear two out of 7 7s. I mean, Ralph. And you're like, oh God, I hope the God. Tatum show up with somebody show up because if I gotta fight this guy, we're gonna be fighting by myself.
We All Know They Were Doing 'Pay to Play' When Biden Was VP
"Know we talk about this all the time and I know every host probably talk about the same thing and beat up Joe Biden, but I mean, this guy's the president of the United States of America. His son is smoking crack off the back of prostitutes. We all know that they were doing pay to play when Biden was vice president. His son is making millions of dollars off of companies and foreign countries. Messages from him claiming that they need to pay 10% to the big man, everybody know the big man that Joe Biden, I mean, if this was Trump, it'd be over for him.
Was COVID-19 Real?
"Was COVID-19 real. Yeah, I think it was real. People actually died from it. But I don't think it was any worse than the common flu. Meaning that people were still dying from the flu, people would still die from the flu next year. It was strategic, it was wrong, and I hope people go to jail over it.
Dr. Deborah Birx Admits to Overplaying COVID Vaccines
"One of the things I want to talk about right off the bat is the doctor, I'm not sure if she's a virologist or not, but she was in cahoots with berks where berks is her name and she was in cahoots with Doctor Fauci when they pushed the agenda of the vaccinations and pushed the push the agenda of shutting down our country. But I want you guys to hear and I hope that we have the clip. Let me know if we have the clip. I want you guys to hear what she said on the news as far as and this is on Fox News. As far as the vaccine heard knowing that the vaccine wasn't going to work. Sean, do we have the clip? We'll get the clip here in a second. You guys are going to hear her make mention that she knew that the vaccine wasn't going to work. And it our government, the people we're supposed to trust to a certain degree, overplayed their hand. That's not the subject here, in my opinion. The fact that they did it, the question to me is why did they do it? Knowing all of these things, why would they push this agenda on the people?
Indiana abortion debate draws protest crowds, vice president
"Indiana lawmakers have begun considering a Republican proposal to ban nearly all abortions in the state thousands of people on both sides of the issue surrounded the Indiana state House Monday as vice president Kamala Harris met with democratic state legislators saying abortion is a personal decision The government should not be telling An individual what to do especially as it relates to one of the most intimate and personal decisions a woman could make the legislation would ban abortions except for in the case of rape incest or the life of the mother but Bill sponsor and Republican state senator Sue glick says she expects amendments to be considered that would tighten those exceptions I'm Donna
Riley, Wright lead streaking Braves to 7-2 win over Angels
"Kyle Wright picked up his NO best 12th win hurling the braves over the angels 7 two right showed rustiness through the all star break but a limit of the angels to two runs in 6 innings striking out 8 It's a little rusty at first but then once I got going I felt like I was kind of right back to where I left off so it was nice to use the brake get some time off and then take it into the second half now so far Austin Riley had three hits including his 28th Homer and Michael Harris said to RBIs to power the braves offense They secured their first three game series win over American League team since August 2020 Jim Hart
Kamala Harris Uses Joe Biden's Positive Case to Promote the Vaccine
"Now here's Kamala Equals articulate cut to go I do want to speak about our incredible president Joe Biden Go ahead He is in good spirits He is feeling well He is doing well He is fully vaccinated and twice boosted and of course he is And as everyone who would encourage who was eligible would do the same And he is working from The White House This is an exactly A perfect time to promote the vaccine Is it rich
Tony Perkins: Midterm Elections Are Looking Good for Republicans
"Tony, before we let you go, how are things looking for the midterms? What are some of the issues you're hearing from your constituents out there? John, I think it looks very good. I mean, you're in touch with people across the country every day on radio as I am and look, these issues of inflation, these issues of high gas prices. I mean, these are real issues. And what does this administration focus on advancing abortion, transgender children? Everything, but what they need to be doing in government. And I think we're going to hear the voters respond very loudly in November to this radical agenda that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have been pushing. Could not agree with you more, but still we're urging the candidates campaign like you're 20 points behind. Oh, absolutely. And every voter needs to vote as we tell our folks vote your biblical values go out and vote, but take somebody with you, don't drive a Volkswagen to the poll to drive a school bus. Fill it up with folks and take them to the polls to vote. Legally.
" harris" Discussed on The Harris Beach Podcast
"Our cannabis industry team at haras speech monitors developments in medical and recreational marijuana across new york state in late october. The new york department of health released a slate of long-awaited proposed regulations for the hemp industry. The regulations attempt to fill in the gaps of the hemp. Bill signed by governor cuomo in january which left many growers and processors confused about how they should precede. I'm here with magazine. A member of our cannabis industry team at harris speech to discuss the most notable and actionable regulations. Welcome to the podcast. Megan thank you for having me so first off the new discuss. Why trump is such a heavily regulated product in new york and new york state's overall stance toward the industry short so ham contains what are called cannabinoid. The most well-known candidates are tetrahydrocannabinol or thc which is found in marijuana and cannabis doyle or what's come to be known as tv. Thc has been heavily regulated harmful recreational drug for years and hemp sorta got lumped into that drug class category only recently did the federal government decriminalize him but it will continue to be heavily regulated federally and state level for at least the foreseeable future. Now the new york state department of health recently released draft regulations authorized by new york hemp. Bill what are the most significant proposed regulations for him so for backgrounds. And we discussed this in a previous podcast. The governor signed the head. Bill as it's colloquially being called last january of twenty twenty that bill stated that have manufacturers growers and retailer or going have to obtain licenses in order to do business in new york and authorized the department of health and the department of agriculture and markets to draft regulation detailing. What those licenses look quite so late. October twenty seventh. That department of health finally released its proposed regulations. The regulations to application formats one for processors or manufacturers and one for retailer as part of that application processors will be required to retain a third party auditor to provide proof of good manufacturing practices or gnp. As it's called which is the federal term of our standard for manufacturing processors will have to test statistically significant amount of products per batch submit monthly the department how and maintain a certificate of analysis from labs for each batch indicating..
" harris" Discussed on The Harris Beach Podcast
"Under the old rule de far an organization, could self certify to being compliant with the law so they? You basically say I'm doing good I'm good I'm so give me the contract. I'M A guy. And and that would be adequate under the CNN though now you have to have external certification by A. Person Authorized give that type of certification, and they'll come in and do an audit and make sure that the controls are in place so. You know I think there are a lot of companies involved in the defense, industrial base and I. Don't think they're that. Many people doing the assessment, so you definitely want to start getting the controls in place and start thinking about how you're going to get certified so that you're ready to bid on contracts when they come. In to elaborate a little further on that and. I was that last piece is absolutely critical to this whole thing because it does require someone independent of your own organization to verify that you're doing these things. And Ellen Reference Heart attack earlier in our conversation. You know this is being phased in over the course of time. But come this summer. Contracts will begin to establish what level of certification is required for an organization to bid on it, but there is. Theoretically sometime for they should get this thing going, but they will start to see this process start rolling out over the course of the the months ahead an umbrella into the next couple of years. It's hundred percent mandated across the board. We're always ready to work with manufacturers in the area I think the pause for Covid has generated a lot of interest in getting their houses in order. So. We're working with to manufacturers. They'll be kicked off the past two weeks to help them. dangerous EMC level three. Audit Capabilities Audits don't begin theoretically until this fall. We have an axiom unit. You never went undergoing on it onto your assured that you can pass an audit. Try to help them. get their a level three certification and walking them through the process, actually one of them. We did a gap analysis for them last year around bars or dating them with the new CNN. Sea Level three controls. As starting to rate their system security plan so. We're seeing a lot of activity. In American place during Calvin organizations trying to. figure out how they get their security by has written and prepare for these type of want it's we are to Harris Lotto companies realize that they've got a lot of risk right now and they've changed the way they're working right the everything in their network everything has changed, and so you know a lot of companies are actually owning that and recognizing it and taking steps to improve their their security profile so. And then maybe you know. The beginning of this thing. Maybe it's because to some extent. There they foresee a more remote workforce. Going forward or you know 'cause there. There are some benefits to working from home. There are some. You know you need you need to look. Let's space there. There are benefits to it that I. Think a lot of companies are talking about how to how to carry forward even after all the lockdown. And what's interesting for from my perspective is you know when I think about this or I I heard about this mandate? I was thinking it was going to be geared towards the small to medium-sized enterprises that play in the defense industrial base, but You know anecdotally. We were contacted by a very large government entity just last week..
" harris" Discussed on The Harris Beach Podcast
"But due to recent events triggered by the cove in nineteen outbreak. A portion of this episode has been updated. I'm joined by Joan Sullivan Harris speech partner and leader of our government compliance investigations. Practice Group. Joan. Thank you for joining us again today. How is the pandemic affecting the lobbying community in New York? Thank you for having me on again. I just want to say that. The lobbying community consists of many businesses both large and small healthcare systems not for profits. All of whom are grappling with the covert nineteen outbreak. Just like the rest of us as we all know. No one is immune from the business interruption and that includes the regulator which is Joint Commission on public ethics. So they're not now operating remotely As well They've done a few things In reaction to the crisis one of which they've extended some of the time to submit lobbying filings so they were filings for the january-february period that were due on March fifteenth. And they've now extended that deadline until March thirty first. So if you are a filer I would suggest checking with the JAYCO website to make sure Whether there are any further extensions the other thing I've noticed in reaction to the current crisis is I've gotten some questions about gift giving by registered lobbyists. So there's definitely been an increase in the spirit of giving Many of these companies are very generous. And they WANNA help in any way. They can to the relief efforts by giving to their state or county agencies that support our community however onto the lobbying act..
" harris" Discussed on The Harris Beach Podcast
"You're listening to the Harris Beach podcast show that explores evolving issues in the law and how they shape organizations the way businesses conduct Voted in how we live and work the information provided in this episode does not and is not intended to constitute legal advice instead all information content and materials or for general informational purposes. Only thanks for listening here's Today's host my name is Melissa. Peterson and I'm sitting down with Beth Wilkins partner in our corporate practice group who was retiring this year after spending over four decades here at Harris Beach Beth what made you want to become an attorney Ashley at a time when there were not as many women attending law school or entering the profession it's odd because it was sheer luck I really we had no intention of ever becoming an attorney and I got to the end of college and decided maybe if I went to law school it might help me get some interesting job I got to Cornell and within about three weeks I realized I loved the whole way of thinking in the law really appeal to me so at that point I sort of did a three sixty turn and decided that maybe practicing law would be something that I would really like to do I was lucky enough to fall into it I hadn't really thought about they're not being that many women in the profession. I just always been optimistic enough that I could make work whatever happened so maybe a little foolishly I I just forged ahead and did it and had a great law school experience at Cornell one of my instructors there was a partner at her speech who came down to teach seminar once a week Com Hamson and I had so much respect for him really enjoyed him in his approach that ultimately that's what linked me to hear a speech so I started my career I summer clerked in New York City and then started my career permanently appear in nineteen seventy four and it it has been a terrific experience ever since the firm has been wonderfully supportive and open the most important thing me was let me make my own way sort of define my career the way I wanted to define it when I came out of law school I was pretty sure that I did not WanNa do litigation Shen I have ultimate respect for litigators but litigation is a very difficult process for both the clients and for me it would have been as a lawyer because ultimately even if you succeed you lose because it's expensive it's time consuming it's emotionally draining being in its people who essentially haven't been able to work things out and you have a a defined set of facts to work with and I much preferred the Dan kind of work which is really unlimited opportunities to be as creative as you can to make things happen in a positive way for your clients and ultimately as corporate lawyers what we really try to do is work out beneficial arrangements for our clients that have to benefit both sides of the really gonNA work people tend to have better long term relationships because they're always a something you need to work out later so having built relationships as you go as a really positive unhelpful thing what I call front and work or corporate work is really planning trying to avoid big problems trying to keep your clients out of trouble and really in the most fun way trying to be a strategic part of your clients direction so the specialties you show is like bankruptcy securities banking and finance have placed you within a male dominated client base how did you approach or maybe embrace that challenge actually found it to be an advantage I came out of law school would a time when there were a large number of women attorneys the result was oftentimes if I would go to a meeting or if I would be in an event there would be a whole room full of guys what I'd call all at the room full of gray suits and then there would be me sometimes see head to hold your breath a little bit and get up your courage to just go in and do your thing but out of that meeting or out of that event people were going to remember one person because you stood out so if you didn't do a good job you were sunk for ever but if you really well prepared and on top of things people remember you and two years later they might not remember the other and guys in the room but they would remember you because you were different and so to me it was an advantage because it just gave me an opportunity sometimes to surprise people who didn't necessarily assume that I would do a great job and then realized Oh wait a minute this person is competent and so they remembered part of it is attitude I think if you are confident in yourself and your abilities and that means working hard and being prepared trying to be the best that you could be and if you're confident in that clients they bias for our legal skills they bias for our expertise but they can get that in a lot of different places what they really highest for is trust they really want us to be able to understand the end them but to have their needs at heart they really want someone who can help them sort through things in a way that's meaningful to them because for many clients allies kind of mystery it's overwhelming doesn't seem to make a lot of sense it's often something that is asking them to do things that they don't want to do whether it's a regulation or whatever it might be and even if we can help be an interpreter are not necessarily to justify an unreasonable regulation is there but to try to help our clients understand what might have caused what might have led to its passage or what the whole context was they may not like it but they may be a little more except adding and oftentimes when as lawyers we lay out what the options are for clients they don't have a context to put it events so we can where you have these five choices well they don't necessarily have all the background the understand where we'll each of those choices lead the down the road so part of our job is again is to try to interpret not just this is what at the law says or this is what the cases are but what does it mean for you and how's IT GONNA play out for you over the long haul and that's what I mean about building trust that our clients need to trust us to help them sort through their problems in in an appropriate way if you can talk through something with your clients the often know what we're trying to get but they don't know they ask a question but it's not the real question and so if we talk we can often sort through what it is they may have asked a question thinking that that'll get him to what they're trying to accomplish but it's it's not really the way to get right there in only if we talk can we figure out what's the way in the longer that we can work with our clients the better attorneys we can be because we really start to understand the INS and outs of their businesses what drives their decisions even knowing their family relationships we represent many privately held companies and having a sense that someone trusts their child to take over the business or hopes that their child will take over the business in thirty years is very different than someone who we know loves their child dearly I wouldn't trust their business with them to save their soul and that's not something that you just go in and ask somebody well do you trust your son it's a sense that you get by word with somebody over a long term and you really learn what drives them and what's behind a lot of their decisions what worries them why do they make a particular investment I don't WanNa make a particular investment even though it seems logical maybe they're not making the investment because they're thinking that they're going to take the in different directions sell it or whatever it might be so we only learned that through talking given the importance of listening building trust and figuring out what might drive a client can you give an example of a time you help the client solve a problem or overcome challenge one example would be a client that we had who had essentially built up of a successful manufacturing business had an outside fund investor that the time had come when we needed to buy out the fund and started looking for as to do that and the client though at that the best way to do it would be to sell the business as we went through the process of working with potential buyers and really looked at how the business was positioned and what its opportunities were it really could do we ended up reversing direction midstream and working out arrangement where the client actually kept the business with figured out way to finance out the fund that needed to get out we were able to do some good things for some key employees as part of that and the result was is that now a number of years later the business has probably doubled tripled its far exceeds the value that we would have sold it for and it was really by trying to be flexible and at every stage looking at wizard better attorney that would better suit our client you were elected president of the Monroe County Bar Association at age thirty four not only the first woman hold the position but also the youngest what was it like to fill that role of leadership well I I have to give a lot of credit to the Monroe County bar because the leadership at that time was wonderfully open to the idea that the bar needed to spread it's ten and to a broader constituency and there were more women coming up in the profession at that time so I give them a lot of credit because it took some courage to make somebody president who is probably twenty five years younger than most of the people who who had served in that position people were wonderfully support I and it wasn't a problem I had an opportunity to put a couple of women in his chairs of a couple of key committees of the bar we had the first woman share that Court Committee for example but we also had a lot of wonderful men who I worked with really well the year I was president was a year that we actually as a minority county bar adopted our first antidiscrimination guidelines and there was a lot of thought that it went into that has the bar head traditionally not taken positions on quotes social issues had really more focused on things that were her purely evaluation of judges or things that related more specifically as a profession itself end building a consensus that these kinds of guidelines were really part of what we're all about and were intrinsic to what ars should be I'm I'm very pleased that we were able to do that and in conjunction with some other bars later that same year we also were able to get some sense Muller work done at the New York State Bar Association through the House of delegates so it was a it was a something that I'm really glad sort of started process what advice do you typically share with attorneys who are just starting their careers in many ways. I've been unfortunate. I've I've been in a large firm I've been in a firm that was very supportive I've had wonderful client relationships and that's not always true for all women in the profession so I'm very aware that there is still discrimination in summer areas sometimes over mostly covert what I really hope we can do is continue to show that women are just as good or better so that we aren't hiring someone because they're a woman were hiring someone because they're really good and to me that's the real benchmark and we have a lot of women who are really good we just need to keep working at that it's interesting because we come out of Law School Oh and we know nothing practical we might be able to make a theoretical argument for the US Supreme Court that's about it but drafting a contract doing a trial closing a deal those are all skills that the law schools have been very slow negotiating a very slow.
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"After hearing you and Sam Harris on the Joe Rogan podcast and April seventeen some very new to the practice. And I really wanna thank you floor speaking and teaching about meditation like you do because I was a super skeptic like you and swearwords help on a side note, my thirteen year old son read, your book and half the time. I listened to the audio version and he loved it too. And again, I think this were really help funding, meditation and yoga and minimalism in the last year and a half have really brought some positive changes to my life. And if thankfully caused me to take a hard left in the way, I spend my time how the world like kids who are thirteen and ten and how I exist. Like question is how do you work still in such a cutthroat profession? After reliable on your journey of enlightenment. I know you guys say one is in lightened or not. But I think it's a journey for me, you know, on a spectrum upon which one grows and progressives. If you met me five years ago, I wasn't even on trim. I do gravitate towards living in black and light. So it's hard for me to work in such a competitive field that I do medical sales and feel good about what I'm doing. We in the business call it the golden handcuffs. I try to find a deeper meaning tell myself and helping people when most of the time I feel like I'm just feeding the I thought maybe it was like that for you. Or that you know, what I mean, at least, you know, how do you do it? Thanks, Dan hope to hear. The great voice mail. I really appreciate it. Now, I wanna go to your part of Texas. I do love Texas just wanna react to things in there. I swear words I'm glad you're thirteen year old son liked it, some not everybody likes it. So the get some positive feedback on that because I get negative feedback. And I totally agree with you about the spectrum of enlightenment. Look I've been pretty clear about my stance on enlightment, I'm agnostic. And but.
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"Apologies to those of you in line is the way karma works apparently. Karma date. Various forms of meditation exist and just curious are they all created equal? Or do you have specific advice on? Well, they're not that there are different forms, which have different purposes. So there. To use the Buddhist framework here there are there are concentration practices where the goal is to focus one pointedly on on some object could be the breath, it could be a candle flame, or you know. Inner visual ization and the goal. There is really to focus so one pointedly that you notice nothing else. So thought thoughts really are the antecedents of that practice? If you're thinking, you're not focusing, and you're you're you're failing in that moment. And that kind of concentration becomes a tool that can be used for practice like mindfulness. But that isn't it's not the same as a practice mindfulness mindfulness as much more about you need some concentration, but it's much more simply noticing what is arising without having any expectation that any thing should or shouldn't arise and that begins to change the character of your experience, and you begin to have various insights, but I concentration practice is much more narrowly focused thing, which is a useful skill. But it's just. It is the thing that becomes in the end of the day. It can seem like an artifice is more like a drug experience because when concentration really works. It has become a novice with very pleasant states of mind, and you kind of have this sort of heroin addict like attachment to the pleasantness of meditation. But then it's it's transitory when you're no longer concentrated. You're no longer getting that high and so the so the other type of practice is called insight BRAC, which mindfulness is the technique and there it's not about prolong any specific state. It's about about actually seen what is common to all states of consciousness, and therefore no longer clinging to one of the things that's common their impermanent, and you're no longer cling into the highs or pushing away the loaves I'm gonna soom maybe wrong, but I'm gonna -ssume that under girding. Your question is kind of sense of what kind of meditation should. I be doing. And I guess what I would say to you is at the beginning. There can be a real sense of like wanting to try everything which I think is cool. I think you should try a bunch of things and see what speaks you what tradition. What's slave meditation speaks you the most? But then I would stick with one thing because if you're jumping around too much for too long really can't get a clear clean signal of what what's working, and I would do it for a little while a couple of years and see what the benefits are get grounded one tradition before you go flitting around too much soaring to bring this to a close. But thank you all for coming. It's really honored. That was a lot of fun big thanks to Sam for doing that. And big thanks to the folks at the screwball cultural center in Los Angeles for hosting us that they're truly beautiful facility. Okay. That does it for another addition of the ten percent, happier podcast if you liked it. And I know we say this and podcasters say this all the time. But there's a reason we say it if you like this, please take a minute to subscribe rate us Telefe Renta's about us because all of those things that ratings this trip numbers social media love that makes a huge difference for us and helps us continue to do what we wanna do here. Also, if you want to suggest topics that you think we should cover or guests that you would like to bring on a hit me up on Twitter. I actually look at this at Danby, Harris importantly, I really want to people who helped produce this podcast that includes annual Johns and Ryan kesler and the rest of the folks here ABC news who help..
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"Yes. Do I see some of the hypocrisy of the, you know? Of the folks that you're referencing. Sure. But I still think I still think it's it's a it's a better thing for the world that we're seeing meditation seep into areas that are way way way way outside the Buddhist ghetto. Yeah. My question is about well have either of you ever incorporated? Sensory deprivation tanks into your practice. And if not what are your thoughts on that. As far as depriving your senses and most of the practices to be aware of sounds and sights. It's been a very long time since I've done it. I my friend. Joe Rogan is a big believer. Actually, you didn't. Okay. Texting? And that was in LA because going to go on his podcast, and he said come why don't you come a couple hours, really get my sensory deprivation tank. And I said, I don't wanna do that. And he called me chicken. And so I did it. How was it? My. My question would have been how often do you change the water? If you're using Joe's water. It's salt water. So. Suppose cleaner. I don't know. It's like the Dead Sea. I did find it pretty powerful. Yeah. But I don't know I need. How long were you in? I was in there. I think he only made me do it for an hour. So let's still something. Yes. Nothing. I did I did find that. You know, what I need to do more before I can develop a real opinion about it. But I can I can I could get a glimpse of the value would just got the signal down to our last questions..
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"Just just give me those leftover drugs. Exactly. I, you know, they're they're really interesting. Studies going on right now at Johns Hopkins of using Silla silent on long term meditators. And and I have friends who are experienced meditation. Teachers who lead retreats that mix Iowa ska with meditation. And so I'm quite convinced that there's a lot of their there. But I'm not as a public figure going to strongly recommend it nor have I done it personally because it might entail. Either more panic attacks or divorce or both. Briefly. I have not done I go, but I know many people who have it's very in vogue now and people are claiming to get a lot of benefit from it. And I certainly don't doubt that I think that the most significant benefit I got from doing psychedelics back in the day. It's been it's been many years since I've done any anything like that more than a decade since I've done any psychedelic. But what what I got from them, which I couldn't have gotten. I don't think I could have gotten otherwise, I I was certainly not tempting to get it. Otherwise is the conviction that it was possible to have a radically different experience than I was tending to have. And it sounds like you already have that conviction because you're already going to sit ten day retreats. That's not to say psychedelics couldn't be useful for you. And there are certainly people who would argue that they're they're further benefits than just being convincingly advertised to that there are other states of consciousness that you'd rather inhabit than the one. You're into. But the reality is that whatever psychedelic you take no matter how good the trip it will wear off. Right is impermanent by its very nature doesn't give you. It's not quite the same thing. As building a skill that, you always have recourse to and there's the other part, which is that it is the experience you have on any of these drugs is somewhat haphazard, no matter how assiduously you control your your sentence. At in me, you can you can have the exact same set and the exact same set in and have two very different experiences. One being absolutely sublime in one being heroin -ly awful. And it's in the end. I mean, the reason why I stopped taking psychedelics more or less totally is for me. There was it's felt like a kind of psychological Russian roulette. I mean, it was just like I had. No, I had no way of expect. Eating what I was going to get. Because again, I I couldn't control. The variables that seem to matter. Dan earlier you'd mentioned like the bad marketing or the flowery message that meditation had in the past and like in my perspective, though, there seems to be something more peer in honest about the peace. Love the hippie approach to it the wearing the world's long hair like Sam did not to be cynical. But it just seems to be somewhat dishonest or like when you hear these CEOs make these ridiculous salaries Milton about like, oh, yes they met at team. They have guided meditations and stuff like that. So I mean is there sort of like a legitimate practitioner versus an illegitimate practitioner, and like, how can we nudge, you know, the people in power towards more, you know, giving up their possessions type direction, meditation, so. Look, you know, it's been a big challenge for the traditional Buddhist community. I. I consider myself a Buddhist. So it's a big challenge for the traditional Buddhist community to have. Their beloved practice spread out to the masses. I always joke that. We would suspend so many years assiduously sending you know, good wishes out to the world. May you be happy may be safe? But turns out there was an asterisk all along. Which is if you do it like me, and look we could take issue with the way some high profile meditators choosing to leave their lead their lives. But I'm still of the view that the end of the day more mindfulness is better than less mindfulness. So I'm not gonna trash talk in less Uday who say take up the practice of not gonna get into the business of trash talking her nitpicking every public meditated unless I I think. think they're doing demonstrable harm in the world..
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"It seems like a lot of the ailments that plagued humanity are this same types of ailments that arrest loose mind experiences. We fluctuate from war to peace to polluting the environment to trying to clean up the environment than polluting it again to. It's just chaos, and we don't quite know where we're going as species, I'm just wondering if you guys think that's a helpful metaphor to to you where we're at. And do you think there's some kind of collective meditative state that we could we could reach some kind of way that we could structure society or some of our institutions that take some. That take mindfulness and meditation and those and what that can bring you the level of awareness that can bring you into account if that makes any sense, it doesn't take long spending time in the meditation world before you hear claims about how meditation we'll fix everything. It will surprise you to hear that. I don't believe that. I think however that if we see a broad societal embrace of the practice. There will be salutory changes. If we had the same. Proportion of the population practicing, mindfulness that currently engages in physical exercise. I think we've probably see real impact on things like. Road rage. Bullying type of comments you see and social media. The quality of our politics. I don't think it would make everything barking unicorns. But I do think you would start to change things. Maybe ten percent at a time. There harris. So so I I do actually think I'm not a utopian by nature. But I do think that broad embrace of mindfulness could make a difference. How much I don't. It's interesting to realize that we have virtually no norm around mental training like mental training is still a totally esoteric concern. And yet physical training is is just an absolute norm where it's impossible to doubt, the utility of whether you exercise a lot or not there's nobody who's living in doubt as to whether or not there's something to be done to be physically better off most of the time. And it seems should it seems obvious even just thinking of it in physical terms, the brain as an organ, which changes depending on how you use it. And we're training ourselves all day long based on how we use our attention to fixate on various things, whether it's social media or so much of it now is is driven by the phone. We got in our pockets and. You can get better at doing anything you care about you can get better at having conversations with people you can get better at in your relationships, you've your marriage can get better. The thing you're doing by default is rarely the best possible version of that thing. And when you this becomes so obvious in athletics because you're learning to play a new sport that you don't know how to play and you're not in that in shape for that sports say, and so everything you do is wrong. Right. But most of what we are doing with our live go through school, and you get to a point where they say, okay. There's no more school for you in this on this topic. So you're done now get a job. And there's no notion of mental training the on that you're just basically who you are trying to figure out how to live a meaningful life after that and the traditions out of which practices like meditation. Come a very different picture of what? Life. What's possible in terms of the comfortable here in your own skin as a as a human being navigating social space with other human beings. I think if if we just acknowledged that emotional and moral development continues throughout life, and even in predictable ways, if you if you apply attention in certain ways, or you think or you just forget about meditation. Just reframing situations conceptually can do enormous work in terms of how you feel. It's like road rage. Is the perfect example. That's a it's a it's a cliche that we've all become right with we've all experienced the saying, we're just magically you're in a car and somebody does something in front of you or just driving too slow and a part of your personality, emerges that simply does not emerge in other circumstances when you're not surrounded by glass and metal you never never comes out of you. In an elevator with other people right unless you're total sociopath. But you're seeing the safety and relative privacy of your car all of a sudden your day Hussein and mindfulness is useful there, but it just reframing the person who just cut you off maybe on on on route to some medical emergency..
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"Experience of now you're in the presence of some kind of emergency. But how long do you want to suffer the results of that hormonal hijacking of your awareness, and what we tend to do is we keep these these emotions alive in our thoughts for much. Much longer than their useful. And it's just one of these truths. You can notice about the nature of of the mind, and you really can only notice it by learning to meditate if you don't get lost in thought about the reason you have to be angry or fearful or anxious or whatever it is. You actually can't maintain that emotion for more than a few seconds at a time. It's impossible to stay angry. No matter what it is. I mean, no matter how grave the injustice that merits anger. It's simply impossible to stay angry for an hour much less day, so becoming aware of the mechanics gives you a choice in the end, you can just you you can decide. Well, how long do I wanna be energized in this way? But this stream of thought, and I think most of us given that ability will want to get off the Ribe far earlier than we do. But I'm not I wouldn't say that negative emotion is is never. Appropriate or never useful. I think it's been classically negative emotions like anger or fear. I think occasionally that we need we need that energy is just it's just you know, what you do with. It is is something you you want to be able to wisely. Choose. Yeah. I the more I practice in my for myself. I the more increase the the more convinced I become of the disability of things like anger. I agree with Sam that there is a galvanizing quality to it in the face of pretty much everything we talk about on the news. But. I don't find that. That is the most constructive emotion out of which to act. Sam talks about this. I don't you probably don't even remember saying this. But I quote you on this all the time that that. We we experienced anger, and then we re up at through compulsive neurotic thinking, but if you can cut down on that on what samples the half life of anger, the amount of damage you can do in an hour of anger versus two minutes when that reduction is just incalculable, and I've just found that for me cutting down that has been a huge game changer. It's not to say that I never experienced anger. I spent I spent time in anger today. But and so, and I don't think it's the type of thing we should engage in much of self-laceration over because we're experiencing it. But I do think it in my own experience. Having now investigated at length. I don't see much use for it beyond what Sam described the in terms of like taking action in extreme situation. Thank you. Ignace thanks for being here. Big fan of both the questions taking things on a little bit of a different direction. But it's not a perfect analogy. But if you were to look at the human race is somewhat of a hive mind, so we're collective consciousness..
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"Hey, guys. I I wanna thank you for getting me to meditate Sammy sparked my interest many years ago, and then you're up finally got me to establish a practice and eventually go on retreat. I know you guys are big fans of I m s and spirit rock as recommendations. But for someone like myself, I found those prohibitively expensive. So I turned to the going Cova pasta those ten day retreats, and because they're free, and you can donate a which I do to your podcast. It's just like that in that regard. So I was wondering if you had any opinions on the going courage Frey as it contracts to the other retreats, I know there's walking meditation and you only do forty five minutes. Max, I looked at the schedules a little bit wondering just if you had any opinions on their methodology, and perhaps any alternative recommendations that something might be more affordable. Well, what I would say, but I m s spirit rock to retreat centers that you read. Referenced one is called the insight meditation society based in central Massachusetts Joseph Goldstein lives. Spear rock is. North of Marin, I think they're they're kinda sister organizations that I believe they have scholarships. So we do so that I think is worth investigating because I need to keenly aware of the expense. And so they'll actually charge people with means more and as a way to subsidize others to go. I think it's really kind of beautiful. So I would look into that. But every you know, everything I've heard about going retreats is that they're great. So I think you're in good hands. Good luck. Hello. Thank you for being here. I have a question for both of you given that you're both seasons. Meditators curious. If your thoughts have shifted regarding the value of emotions, specifically negative ones. Well, they might have shifted. But I think shifting back. Briefly imagined that expressing anger may actually be a good thing in certain contexts. What do you think of reciprocally? But no, I think there is I think negative emotion is certainly appropriate and useful in certain contexts. I think it's also useful to get over very very quickly. I think so I think it meant anger can be energizing outrage. Moral outrage can be energizing fear can be energized. Invent fear is totally appropriate. You know, if you're in a situation of potential physical violence say or a lion gets out of the cage at the zoo is totally appropriate to have the full adrenaline is d-.
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"We want that long while QNA's. So it might be the moment to transition to that. It's a brave young gentleman. I'm niko. Thanks for coming in chatting about meditation. I guess my question is when you've gone on these long retreats, and I guess Purtill you Sam who's been away for ten years going on these retreats on and off. What point did you decide this time to come back given that meditation mindfulness is such a critical part mental health, and if you were in those moments of mindfulness being super happy, mentally when when you say, hey, you know, what's actually tend to end this and come back. Well, I was writing and originally I thought it was going to be writing fiction, and if you're writing fiction, nobody cares that you dropped out of school and didn't make much of your academic career. But the moment you transition to nonfiction all of a sudden, it becomes highly relevant. How you know anything? So I decided I just had it. I couldn't keep just sitting retreats and being entirely self-taught to write what I wanted to write. And it was very useful to go back to school to do it because I was not had that point all of the liabilities of being self taught in every area that was relatively at that point apart from detention, and now I just have some of the liabilities of being self taught. First of all, thank you guys very much for doing what you're doing. I think like what you're doing in the public sphere. And your individual ways is immensely helpful. For people like me and probably people here. My question having to do with meditation is how often you Bledsoe in your practice, and how do you deal with that? If at all. Wanna take sure with the caveat that I'm not a meditation teacher? I'm just a guy writes about meditation sometimes, and that Sam knows a lot more about this than I do with that caveat. I think plateauing or the perception of plateauing quite common and probably not that useful to get too hung up on. Our mutual friend and my meditation teacher, I was introduced to by SAM's got him Joseph Goldstein. He's been on sans podcast at least twice which I recommend to everybody. Because those are rate interviews just seen often talks about this habit. We have playing what he calls the practice assessment tapes where we're just obsessing about the state of our practice right now. And have we plateaued or has our concentration level, actually, maybe diminished is this whole thing wasted time. I- helpless case, blah, blah, blah. This is just. To put it in Buddhist terms. The classical hindrance called doubt, not doubt in the positive sense doubt in my line of work as journalists is quite positive with this doubt majority, which is this quagmire this quicksand of. Useless self questioning. And so I would just put that flag out there for you to to be aware that a certain amount of practice assessment is healthy and might be worth talking to a teacher. But in my experience, this can turn into rheumatism spot spirals that are entirely unconstructive. And to know that the way Abraxas goes over time is, you know, some sometimes based on whatever factors exaggerates factors your life. Your ability to concentrate, isn't that good or maybe actually you feel like you're not able to apply to lessons of meditation off the cushion and the rest of your life. There are many factors that go into that. But my experience over time, it's sort of wavy line. But it does kind of go in the right direction. Thank you. Thanks Ariston Harris for sharing this with us. Dan, I wake up to you on my you're my weekend home..
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"Did you get your own? I can drag back. That's so the question is what is the aspect that you thing you emphasize different aspect here? Which is the thing that you were saying before could can be seen on the on the subway, which I agree with, but it's a different thing. Or no thing at all. So this is really the truth door versus the useful door utility door. There was no guarantee that scene the character of your mind more clearly, which is the same more accurately more. Truthfully would be useful. We could live in a universe where it would destabilize you somewhere. Right. It could be an may. In fact, be bad for some people. And I think they're probably people who certainly people who shouldn't do intensive retreats. I think that's can exacerbate certain psychological conditions. I think there's trauma. Yeah. There's a enemy. Demean that is that it is something you should talk to a professional before. So then there is a very small literature on people who feel like they have been harmed by doing intensive practice because they just thrown in the deep end of the pool and didn't swim. Well, but that those are certainly minority cases. But if you get a group of two hundred people together, there's very likely going to be one person for whom it was a bad idea to do an intensive retreat. I guess is conceivable that's true of daily practice. But I think it's very unlikely that sitting in the middle of your life for twenty minutes and paying attention as we just did would be bad for anyone. But if I guess the disclaimer is valid if you find that it seems like it's not doing anything. Good for you. Then or doing something bad for you. Then you should consult a psychotherapist who knows about these things and many now do mindfulness is has invaded the psychotherapy. Puta community, and it's understood by many many of them, but they're just is a fact that scene. Certain features of consciousness more clearly seems to be very helpful psychologically, in many ways doesn't help everything. I mean, you can still at whatever level of stability. You are in the practice use. You're still going to spend most of your time lost in thought. And then you are hostage to whatever. The character of your thoughts are so if you if you're on your thinking, well, then you're probably still in most of the time. But it's PA is possible to punctuate that with a very clear scene of some surprising facts about consciousness and one is that consciousness it self just the sheer fact of knowing anything whether it's visual perception or an internal appearance like a thought that condition of knowing in and of itself doesn't feel like a self. It doesn't feel like I doesn't feel like the subject that most people think is riding around in their heads. Having the thoughts and the experiences and appropriating everything from this position of being a a subject inside the head and is possible to recognize that and that is freeing in a fairly radical way all of the high falutin language, you get from the contemporary traditions. For the most part is anchored to that kind of insight that the ego is an illusion or the self is an illusion or the duality subject object perception is an illusion and it can be a very ordinary realization. It doesn't have to come with all the pyrotechnics of kind of psychedelic experience. If you don't have to feel like you're on acid in order to have that that insight, but what that does is. It does does radically interrupt this identification with thought and with and with all of the the things that follow from being identified with which all the mediocre emotions that play us so much of the time one way to to get this is with Sam was sang before when he was guiding us in meditation. I had us just listened to the sounds in the room..
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"It owns you. And so that moment where the conversation the my inner conversation that chatter had come wave way volume came way down that was really interesting and led to thirty six hours of some of the curious happiness I've ever experienced. And then it went away as things too. But I came away from that retreat with in. This is a loaded phrase word rather in your present Sam, but I came away from that retreat with a lot of faith in the practice confidence that this is not like, you know, the mental version of hacky sack that just something that hippies due to pass the time that this is real right, right? You know, that's that's a fine. News of faith. I'm not allergic to the word. It's confidence that you are not uniquely cursed that this this sort of inter landscape. It has been well mapped by other people. And and described you if you if you perform this experiment on yourself, you will have similar results it it seems to take. So before you went on retreat. You you been meditating? Did you retrospectively feel that you really had never been meditating before you did the retreat or did you because I had that experience where once I did a ten day retreat. I realized that for the previous year I had just been sitting cross legged and thinking is. And I think I had never had never broken through to anything other than you know, boy feels good to sit here with beads on. I want those pictures. Look, I actually think that that's a again, I'm going to I'm going to revert back to realize counter program into the message that yes one minute days. Yes. So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get back on the program because I actually think that there are like any skill any any field of endeavor, there are levels to it. And if you sit and try to meditate and notice the become distracted and start again, and again, and again that is meditation it's meditation and your deriving a lot of benefit from that. Because every time you see, oh, crazy or the craziness has less power over you. And that can happen for anybody at anytime anywhere. And so I don't I will not back away from that. I will however concede that for sure that you. Once you put yourself in a container where everything about it is designed to support your meditation practice, you have no other responsibility being fed. Housed. Instructed that you can reach levels that are for for me, at least unavailable on the subway. So I've come full circle on this where I feel like the thing that is most important to glimpse in the practice that many people only tend to find on after intensive retreat is the thing that you can see on the subway. There actually is no connection to retreat disappears. Ultimately, and it need only last a moment to be extremely valuable. Let's talk about the crazy side. Into that for because there the thing about meditation one of the many things meditations so interesting to me is that you can you can emphasize different aspects. So I tend to emphasize the aspect of seeing how crazy you are. Because because I hear from people all the time say I can't meditate because my minds too busy. And so I I've made it my business to tell those people know, you are meditating. The fact that you're noticing that your mind is busy is success. What you're calling a failure is success. And here's why it's a success because every time you see distracted. You are you notice something about your mind, which is that you're crazy? And then the crate then went anger or distraction, or whatever ambushes you later in the day. You have a better you have better odds of not being owned by you emphasize, a different aspect, which I think is. I think is this is the thing you were about to say that you can see on the subway. Which I agree with you. But it's hard for people to grass, right? The talk you write about this brilliantly in waking up which I've read like maybe four times. But I think it's hard for people to understand what it is that you are emphasizing. So maybe make a run at that. I know your questions, but now I realize I'm outgunned here. I'm sitting next to a professional journalist. This was bound to happen. How many minutes did I laugh? Well, let's let's talk about the crazy for a second. Because the crazy sounds like an exaggeration..
" harris" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"There are many levels to the bed marketing, but in just to dress the level in which you're speaking is that just comes with all this cultural baggage that for people like me is deeply off pudding. And as I have written about the fact that my parents were hippies and maybe go to a yoga class when I was little and the teacher didn't like my tough skin pants, and maybe do sunset, you -tations in my tidy whitey's and created a life long to anything like that. And so I really hated that stuff and meditation just never even came on my radar screen till I started seeing science and that there is. And we have to be careful we talk about this because it's still in its early stages and some of the scientists, frankly, just not of a high quality. But I think I think we can safely say is that it strongly suggests that meditation can confer a long list of tantalizing health benefits. And that to me was really what started to change my mind and meeting people like you plus interesting because it seems to me that there two doorways into this at least two and they're not they're not the same. And so the first that you've just described is the the usefulness of the practice, and so then that extends now, as we know at least some medical claims that seem fairly well-founded, but there's another door, which is the door. I took which is really the still what I emphasize in my thinking about this, which is just the door of what is true about the mind from the first person side. So what is it actually like to be you? If you. Pay attention and win. What you find? If you're if you're new to this practice, and even for the longest time is that it's very hard to pay attention just get into the place where you can notice anything is quite a feat and takes takes training, but you can spend you can you can go through that door and not necessarily care that much about the benefits. And I often think that I would still be interested in meditation. Even if it were not good for you. You know, even if it were a little battery their people who get into sports, which are clearly not all that healthy. But they still love the sport. And this is a kind of intellectual sport in a way, which I think you you can become fascinated by even if you're not sold that it's that it reliably reduces stress or anything else that seems to do. I agree. My intuition as a storyteller also Rak Titian, and now as what sort of semi physicians used the word evangelist for the practices that it's I think more widely attractive to talk about the benefits the bigger door. But you many people quickly get to what you're talking about. Which is getting inexperience of what our minds, and therefore our lives are actually about and that comes of. For many of us practitioners becomes extremely interesting. I also think as it pertains to the science that look I think as an endeavor it's very good field of interest. But for me as a as an evangelist, the scientists useful as a way to get people interested in might not otherwise be interested. But it's doesn't have much of a bearing on your actual practice like as I like to say that you might start meditating because you see the brain scans. But you don't keep meditating as you think your prefrontal cortex would look different different in it. And then FM right now, you can't meditating because you're to yourself and others. And that is the metric that matters. It occurs to me. Now actually do lead you to that being? Yeah. They can still being fined. Rather regular not you. Our wives are both. Here's if we want to flesh out this part discussion. Get a Mike to them curse me. We might want to just sit for two or three minutes. Just so that everyone knows what we're talking about. So many people in this room have at least had some experience with meditation. But if not let's just do it for two minutes. So we are on the same page. So you might close your eyes. You don't have to close your eyes, but many people like to do it that way and sit a little more erect just comfortably. And.
" harris" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"But this one is much more topical about meditation and lots of related issues. So I really enjoyed taping. This and hanging out with salmon on AKU and my wife backstage beforehand, and I hope you enjoy this conversation. The first time we met was the American atheist convention, which I was covering a journalist, and you were there as a card carrying is. And. Although that you've got up at that event actually gave a speech that you later described as the first time that you began with a standing ovation ended with booze because you you said today is first of all I don't think we should be using the word atheist, and then you went on to say that that there are forms of spirituality that they had closed their mind to I didn't hear the speech. I just met you outside front of all these t shirts like that said like Jesus save us from your followers and. And. I was not wearing one of the. That was I met you. And we hit it off. It was short encounter in. Then I saw you backstage at this debate. And we really started talking. I just got into meditation, and the fact that you were into it, which I did not know because I hadn't heard this beach was hugely validating because you struck me as the prototypical skeptic, and so that that really when you told me you should go on a retreat and Ana. Also, quite skeptical said, hey, you're gonna retreat I took it serious. And plus I was writing a book, and I write about so. Although I Rana because I got into meditation so much earlier. I was I was nineteen when I started, and I had no I had no real scientific training to speak at that point. And I certainly had no persona as an atheist wasn't ATS. But I didn't think myself as Nathan. I didn't go into it. With your level of skepticism may all the things that you're allergic to talk about the Julie oil and the bad music. None of that was an impediment to me. So you are what's what's what did you do music? And I went to India and I walked around in pajamas for a long time. But it was I had you're trying for for one of those pieces. You did you were trying to pry photos of me with long hair out of my reluctant fingers willing to give it to me, but on Akot being and the only reason why there's not hippie photos of me out on the net is because my wife wisely saved me at the eleventh hour, so I was a teenager, and I got into it. So, but you one of the things that's so useful about your books is that you prove that there is a doorway into this concern and this practice that is narrow enough and and brightly lit. It enough. So as to not admit any, and that's and you don't have to take on any cultural trappings and be fascinated with with eastern religion or anything to find this useful. I think it's just an incredibly important thing. To know. I often say that meditation has been the victim of the worst marketing campaign for anything ever. And because it's been presented to us in this very flowery, way and. Actually there..
" harris" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"This is a live conversation between me and Sam Harris. Sam has had I say this a lot about our guests, but happens to be true in this case, especially Sam had a massive impact on on on my life in my meditation practice Sam if you don't know him, he's he's got a long resumes. Neuroscientist he is an author of some bestselling books, including the end of faith. He's a very prominent atheist. Atheism was at the core of the aforementioned and defaced. He's a podcast or he's got a podcast called waking up. That is just now switching the name. He's actually changing the name of the podcast for reason. I'll explain it a second to making sense one of the most popular podcasts on the planet. So was waking up now it's changing to making sense. He called it waking up because that was actually a name the name of another book. He wrote that meditation was at the center of that book, waking up as amazing book. I recommended highly and unreservedly to everybody, but he then went on to found a meditation app called waking up so he decided to change the name of his podcast to making sense. And he also now has this new app called waking up, which I'm a horrible friend. I haven't checked out yet. But I can guarantee you is excellent. Just because everything Sam does in my opinion, happens to be excellent more about how I got to know Samsa. I met him. Oh, I mean, probably well over a decade ago when I was covering the religion beat at ABC news. And as part of that, I did a big story, but atheists and met Sam at a big conference of atheists and just really hit it off with him. I wouldn't call myself personally in Theus, I would say use the term respectful agnostic, and Sam is much more as much more personally provocative style than I personally would adopt. But I just found him to be very interesting and intriguing. And over time just got to know him personally. And and we've become friends and friends with his wife, Ana Kaz. Well, who's been on this podcast before and will again be in the future because she is in our own, right? Fascinating human being so overtime, salmon, I became friends, and I got to learn that he was interested. And I talk about this in in my first book ten percent, happier. When I found out that Sam who's the ultimate skeptic had a long history of meditation. Dating back to his college years and had done weeks and weeks and weeks and months of silent meditation retreat, I was at a sort of a tender moment in my meditation career was I was trying to figure out how seriously I was gonna take this thing. And and I saw salmon, and I think it was the second or third time. I ran into him. And he happened mention to me that that he had as long as meditation, and I thought, okay, if this guy's into it, I can get into it. And he really encouraged me to do my first. Meditation retreat and introduced me to his friend Joseph Goldstein whose subsequently become my meditation teacher, and so just over the years talking to Sam about meditation practice, and how it shows up in his life and getting his advice on all sorts of things has been incredibly meaningful to me. So when the kind folks at the skirt ball cultural center in Los Angeles invited us to do a conversation in front of a live audience. I left at the paternity because anytime we can spend I can spend Sam is time well spent so this coversation we talk about what meditation is, and what it isn't. We talk about the experience of being on a meditation retreat, something I know a lot of you are curious about and we take a lot of questions from the audience, and for that reason, I am not going to do voice mails this week because we're effectively doing it within the body of the episode anyway will resume our voicemails next week. But there's you'll get to hear people ask very interesting questions. And luckily for you won't just be me answering them you'll you'll be hearing Sam Harris's well for those of you want to hear more about SAM's personal history. He's been on the podcast before you can go back and find that..