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The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Knowing that tito ortiz would never make weight knowing. He's way over his attempt to make that way so now only we get a big chunk of change. trt's is going to be severely dehydrated. He's gonna spend most of this training camp not working boxing but he just got me running cutting way you know just getting sweaty and making videos about how we will make way so and this is over it again tonight. I is he you know. World champion boxer. No but i'm happy. He's picking his fights wisely unlike some of the other competitors but He's picking his why you speak in his fight wisely and he's performing and it's a pleasure to see a happy ending so even though we didn't we talk about this once he did. Knockout tito was me or did anderson. Almost look kind of bummed. It was so easy he wasn't he didn't do any thing you just like. That's it he knows. I i can't. I felt a bathrooms. And i think anderson was actually kinda hoping for a new of this is a big smiley fun guy but hey guys still a fighter he wants to get. You need to get down and dirty. You know you know he wants to get in there. I was just looking at old pictures. When he fought shell in the first fight and after he won he was just his angry mad like ferocious face and cheetos anderson's and i was like man. I'd break a sweat not fun. So we're going to definitely see andersen back and High profile matches and hopefully big money fights and the man deserves getting big checks. If i had to hazard a guess as to why maybe anderson didn't react in the way that he had reacted in previous victories. I think a lotta people like looking through twitter a lot when i was doing the twitter as a lot of people were just predicting anderson. Just wash tito as was. So maybe anderson news gonna be that easy to so when he want. He's like yeah. The sky is blue waters wet. I knockout tito ortiz around one. Maybe that was. I'm just hazarding a guess. I did not see one person. Picking teeter to win this fight. Especially given that anderson beat julio cesar chavez junior who i am a vocal i am not a fan of hulu junior as an individual officer but he is. Legitimate is a legitimate resume in the boxing world. An andersen did what he did. The ufc two professional boxer in his home country that i thought he was going to have the home cooking but i think a lot of people picked anderson to win so But from here the question. The question is who's anderson silva fight next a lot of people online guy. Believe closest yields mukisa and ask. They are all calling for anderson silva vs jake. Paul i know cheinal shots. Maybe logan paul because he's a little bigger the post fight press conference The the he was present when boxing oscar de la hoya anderson said. I think vito has some unfinished business with oscar and he just wants to go home and spend time with his family gave a gave. The answer that we as journalists hates is wants to tell my family. And then i'll get back to the drawing board gave absolutely nothing started every since with word. Wow so that didn't change service. Ufc days so stephen. I'll start with you if you are anderson's team and you could tell him to find anyone that makes sense. Who should he fight again. Five minutes team. I'm jake paul. I mean that's the biggest may day you know even after this fight like what somebody said. We're still talking about. Jake pulse Narrative coming out of this bite. Who's been a fight. He's the guy who wins in the end again. So if i'm not might wanna see him. Make the most money possible And i think that that's a you know the the reasons. Casey said notwithstanding i mean. I feel like it's a competitive. It's a great fight for him in. I actually think it's a fight that he can win and should win But i think it'd be logano j honestly so there's a competitive side of it financial side of it and from anderson silva side. I would much rather be anderson silva than than j. paul anderson silla. I want that fight of jake paul. I'm thinking twice. Because is anderson gonna bring the the eyeballs is he gonna make it seen at a spectacle so i agree with what casey said before. I don't think it's completely lega like a nobody Or it's not going to do any business at all. Anderson was a top a draw during his heyday. of course. it's not as it's well past. Hey now but that being said the guys had some great performances in his a lot of is so me. personally i would love to see Invite jake logan paul for the competitive reasons. Do i think that happens. You know unless confident about that. Sure i would. I don't know if i if i'm andersen. Obviously the money fights. Jake paul jake paul. Probably gonna fight. Tommy who is probably the worst boxer of everyone we brought up including the Including paul brothers. Casey if you if you had to if you're anderson's team which direction you nudging him towards i know he probably won't get. I know jake. Paul probably won't accept the fight so taking the paul brothers out of the equation. Is there another option. That is actually reasonable francis over Next man if i wanted to see tonight anderson silva vs veto belfort. If i actually wanted to see actually made more sense that was pardon me more competitive our still anderson but i think it would have been more competitive I don't think. I think from a monetary standpoint price standpoint. Of course jake. Paul is the guy the the fight to make for anderson. But i just find it so weird that if you want gone gone back in time a year ago or say the aspirin fight when pau aspirin like it would almost be insulting insulting to anderson silva's legacy to suggest that he schiff i jake paw but now we're like. Oh jake paul you fight me. It's just crazy. How the how. This works in combat sports. Now all these beautiful belford these legends. These these these pioneers of mixed martial arts are basically. Hey mr paul. We fight me so i can make money. I just find it. It's just crazy. This i hated. I hated it. I hated everything about veto. Bill fords Press conference and comments inside the like he's offering thirty million dollars like winner-takes-all to fall and then he's like forty million dollars for canal on like do first of all you fight at one hundred eighty five pounds cannella fights at one hundred sixty pounds. Yeah and you're saying that canal hours. The powerful pound best fighter on planet earth would be would is chicken if he doesn't take fort like i'm so confident that i'd say canal take a month off. Come off in just dust vitor belfort it is. There's no question in my mind that that happened. So i hated every and then this whole thing of j. Paul doesn't take the fight that means all his fans have become my. I'm like my guy. I i'm really. I'm also really confident when i say. None of j. pulse fans watched this fight so no one knows what you are saying. And no one knows who veto belford is. And that's i'm like that's unfortunate. Because veto belfour is one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters who has ever lived top five middleweights in the history of anime one of the greatest opinion high near like the definition of pioneer. Like like the first guy in the afc that that had blackballed let black belt. Level ju jitsu with elite level striking so when on sale. That's not that's not a knock on veto. it's just a different world vitor. I'm sorry you're not gonna fight the paul brothers. I'm pretty confident that didn't even hear you say that. Yeah so that's his mind with that we're going to move on to the main event. Where's this trailer bag. This briefcase of thirty five million dollars and the guy that went thirty nine thirty five meal. I know who he twenty five million and then this guy is ran in a five million dollars for just add to this ridiculous bet. Like come on man like logan pause fighting on showtime boxing which is an established. Name the box like now. The hbo is is out of the equation. Is anything bigger than showtime boxing. No but they're the new york mayor broadcaster in boxing fox..
MMA Fighting
"tito ortiz" Discussed on MMA Fighting
"Love you through a musical act there again. I i know. I'm in the minority in this. I can that may fans rebelling actively rebelling as they listen to this but does anything do mix it up just to break up the monotony of his show. I think it's cool. So like i said i don't know how long trail is gonna last but i think there are people who are going to steal a lot of troas ideas in the future and just thinking about seriously if like if there's a big knockout you know either. The main or co main you know is going to be. The big viral hit is trump's call knockout and him going into a trump repression but no but ijaz imaginative tito gets knocked out cold or is knocked out cold or you know whatever and then trump you know doing his. You know joe rogan. You know all that stuff so it's great promotion by trailer and i saw like teams e. They won't bracha. Mom do it to the next time you know. Whatever but good luck. We're talking about it. We're talking about him. we're talking about it. We're talking about the show. And we're not the other ones i guarantee. There's a lot more people who became aware that car was even happening. Be of trump's involvement. So if this chiller a few extra buys i mean i hope it was worth it because it it very well could very good. It's not a terrible. It's not a terrible strategy at all. I the parents we got a couple of the. I don't know if we're getting mike back. So i thought you went to fair Real quick we talked this material missing. Way yeah I don't i never if you watch tito's very first press conference Slow virtual press conferences. Too late about you know. He talks with thirty minutes about ten minutes of that was about how he lost. Respect for anderson for making him cut way and basically he was laying out the excuses of him. Not making wait so this was not a surprise at all. In fact he got. The two hundred honestly was was a surprise to me To me was. This was a strategy by anderson silva to make tito basically train on cutting away and not train boxing. And this is boxing monsters. Don't actually see as much as may. Is they definitely. Don't as much way as wrestlers zoo because there are so much head trauma and you need that fluid in your brain to cushion it because it's gonna be bouncing around a lot so I hope tito actually was in florida. So which would be good. But i hope tedo passes his Post-weigh-in medicals and all that because i don't know if they're hydration tests and things like that but that is that is that to me. That's the safety concern rather than holyfield because wholesale is fighting at his. No walking white. Tito is dehydrated..
MMA Fighting
"tito ortiz" Discussed on MMA Fighting
"You know just like what you want to get out there and have fun do it. You know you know the risk you know. Prepare yourself and go out there. That's all. I see someone asks did. It did mike. Was he blocking the handicap access. Yeah maybe that's why he got kicked out. We'll try and get them back as we head off my some questions i don't are we doing. A pre fight are we gonna do appreciate think we are actually okay but there will be a show can bring some comments so they're probably get a few cousins and now guys are probably won't be right so we'll answer some questions here because he i don't know mike is right now. So what jack and guys member. He's on site in florida. Literally anything can happen. They're they're letting our i heard they're letting up under holyfield box. So that's that's the motto of florida. Anything happen. I don't know apprentices. We let a vendor holyfield box. That's going to add that they're going to add that to the website like all right. We have some very reasonable questions. Asked us a lot of questions. Very reasonable questions and concerns We saw a lot of that. We saw that. I was e- originally on the car. Like how did you find the musical acts. Like i was wondering about that. You know a shot up. Shut us too bad left. Hook dot com. Who had an update on that. What the music weeks go sniper. Yeah so Oh we need to talk about this. Needs to be talked about yes. I'm sorry that's once the circus won't people pay just to hear trump commentary haha. Thank you peter for the question. I don't know that's laughable. Because i do think there are look how many tune into the trump commentary will hold. Its full disclosure. I'm not a fan of donald trump from pretty anti-trump. I'm just going to be so take my opinion with that with that particular grain of salt But i do think that there are a lot of people who are fans of the you know. The previous president who. I don't know if it will make them want to necessarily there. Were on the fence. Live with people on the best. They might be compelled to check it out. And i saw questions earlier like will he mention the stolen election things like that. There's prop best by the way for all these kinds of stuff. Guys find those products on. We'll trump say this trump. Say that. I think he's gonna say all the stuff you're looking at prop bets. Par lay a bunch of stuff they can find a joe biden stolen. There's a there's a split dunkin. Oh my gosh she'll jump. Right in there. The recounts count the ballots..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Was training to cut way so In for anderson all you do just work on his boxing. He just basically. He's basically fighting at his in shape weight so to me this is all anderson silva and he should dominate tito. And yes. he'll he'll be around. I mean how many how many rounds changes all the time. What does this mike. Eight rounder eight. Two minute rounds two around so yeah okay with two minute rounds might make it more difficult. But let's go six round knockout anderson so okay knockout a ko not a tko account knockout. Hang mike what are you saying. I'm assuming you can celebrate. It's gonna get you picking a finish now. I think he went to decision. I think he went to the decision. One of those fights we're going to be like he showed up teach shuttle heart there at the is it gets to be one of those situations but i think anderson's comfortably i think we'll look like you. He won't look washed. I mean i think tito will look like a guy who wants to knock out his opponent but it's just you know he's financial silva that's all. Yeah i again. I would love to be surprised and for this to be more competitive fight. Maybe tito as some crazy hands that we've just never seen before. But i think you're right. Casey that like he's had no time to prepare as much. The properly should be able to boxing about. You have so much of this funding away so But i'm with mike. I don't think we see a knockout. I think it sort of more of a convincing. Selva decision may probably i. I possibly a shutout possibly eight rounds to nothing at worst probably sick rounds to to but i would be shocked if If tito one more than around just is this. Just seems like a matchup tailor-made for for anderson himself outside of the size i could definitely see Tito winning some rounds. Mostly due from anderson being very patient at the beginning and just kind of you know letting tito kind of show his hand before anderson you know. Let's lose which is done before you know anderson kind of you know is a slow starter on purpose. Not because he just isn't warmed up. But so i expect now might get your onsite. You're more deeply immersed in this card again so we also have david. Hey fighting a joe. -fornia who was on a previous trailer card and evinces versus john carroll anti-chavez versus dual dual logan. I'm sorry definitely butchered. That and we had undercard while eleazar. Silva and terry roscoe so I guess there's probably obvious. Choice of of what other kind of deep cut their risk but outside of the two main fights you kind of what you looking forward to. I mean i think joe was the star of the press conference yesterday. He was hilarious. Earn emma david hay ever relate. It's they're selling. It is friends become enemies but enemies are also friends. 'cause apparently they were having like some some food. And a couple of debbie's together last night so But yeah. I mean david david. Hey fighting on this car. I don't think a lot of people expected that to happen in. the lobby. were surprised when they found out this week. That he was so To me it's gotta be that An outside of that. The deepest cut is seeing. Snoop dogg do a performance with marvin gaye is bring it back. Marvin gaye maze marvin gaye. Who who died in nineteen eighty four will be performing with snoop. Dogg got is the i. Guess the headlining musical actor for anyone. Who's not familiar with trailer this trailer. Does they give you they give you boxing or are they give you a combat sports. Entertainment experience It was loaded for the very first chiller fight club with very current justin bieber the black keys a doj. They're black and other black keys. Adoga cat showed up. Whatever major lazer. Yes major lazer rushmore pill note mountain west more. The supernova snoop dogg and ice cube and several others will. We'll be coming back. I believe is also kind of serving as like the m. c. I think he'll be performing yes with. We don't know with marvin gain. Some capacity could be a very basic like marvin gaye on a screen. A lot of people are hoping hologram audran cross. That's the hope So it could be a very basic setup. There's so much things you can do with with technology these days outside of that. Tell me if he's anita with two ts lou. Looney looney ni- and apologized ministration and hesitate the zona so a lot of latin flavor. We've gotta get anita's from brazil From puerto rico and hinted on from cuba. So i apologize. I'm not familiar with these musical acts guys. If they're these really spicy musical acts i i. I applaud ignorance. But i think that's up. Sounds like it'll be a fun. Show fund high energy. Show outside of it casey. I want to give you the chance speaking with the whole circus around it. I wanna you the chance to speak on. You felt very strongly about sort of how legends lessons have kind of been treated and talked about in the lead up to this event Compared to other other combat sports to sit what do please floors with other combat. Sports talking about was actually pro wrestling so spore go for no. I was just your sports real sport. This more in. I'm i'm putting blame on the media. Jumping blaming me. Oh fancy. I'm not just saying you. What you okay but just i was more just interested in just how things are so different between because i just saw the all out Aws all out paper view last week last sunday and that was actually the first pay per view. Actually all right. Here's my money. i'm gonna watch pay per view and had lots of veterans. I obviously made his return. Thinks punks like forty. Something chris. Jericho had a great match minorities. Yuki guys right forty five plus you know and the way just the fans just can came around and just gave these guys just enormous pop and just had this incredibly awesome energy. I just it was just very refreshing. And then the judge position from that straight into this week where it was like these guys are all day. Suck. why are we watching these old people fight and it was just edges felt like it was very negative vibe and especially if the move the florida and banner holyfield coming on you. Know kind of suggesting He's no he look. He came as a complete senate without taking two hours to say it. We lost mike..
MMA Fighting
"tito ortiz" Discussed on MMA Fighting
"This is the main event. This is the fight more. I'm more fascinated about this fight with this fight than i am with the main event and assignment close. It's not even close. So i like it. I think it's of like you're not going to get anderson to to get into that sort of battle with the trash talk and things like that. But i think tito had some good lines yesterday i think maybe the appearance from donald trump junior and then trump on the phone before he gave his prediction may be inspired him a little bit more but i fully thought with one with the wake got into just taking the As seriously as possible. I didn't think we're gonna see much of that. But then we got some some glimpses. We got some of that. Tito gold at the end of the press conference and Even speaking with the math awards. So it's been pretty good. It's it's it's pretty much. What i hope for heading into this thing and to me this is. This is the main event in my eyes. Just because of what. I do and what i cover so i'm looking forward to it Casey who's going to win this one. Who wins the people's the people's main event the inmate people's min- annus over versus tito ortiz at a catchweight of one nine thousand five hundred hour. Whatever anderson sherwin I don't i don't I think he'll wanna easy decision. It'll be i. I kinda wanna see a knockout. I mean i don't know. I wonder and the anderson's chavez by it was fun to watch but i feel like We've been seeing all these kind of immi guys come to boxing. And this is this the first one we have actually two. Mma guys doing boxing. I know we've of have always like searches. Matches kind of hope. High profile has to be the most high profile just to to high profile hall of fame. M may dudes boxing now. I think it's still weird. Why can be an ma match right there. Come on guys this switch clubs out this is doing. Emma may match but couldn't have made this one that or trailer hard on the same guard. Yeah i just think it's just a weird everything's weird. Everything's weird about this Anderson show. When there's i mean we've we've all seen enough of them in their stand up to know the anderson is a better striker just of hands alone If this if this was an emmy match maybe. I was still actually pick anderson. But obviously the al-jahbi eleven to one but just just hands. Boxing only anderson should win this easily. And tito like like you said it. Mike said tito is he. I mean bob. Tito's thoughts physically physical specimen. He's a big dude..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Do things a little too high considering both guys. Essentially you know not boxers Again so that's minus. Eleven hundred eleven to one favourite for the two high eleven's of one for eleven to one. Yeah okay yeah i mean. I'm i'm very confident. Anderson's gonna win but man in the one that doesn't kind of crazy considering the Just the size difference. But i mean we should. We should say anderson came in at one ninety. Two point six was given about eight peddle a little under eight pounds more and more. When the more i mean he. He's going to be fighting. That weight tito is going do when you walk into the ring. He expect. It'd be over twenty five or so so yes eleven to one favor is kind of crazy but No of course. Anderson should be the favorite. You know i. I would expect that. Yeah again. he's he's a favorite again. I don't see why why we wouldn't think you should be. What do you guys think of. The prefight hype. I think it's using. I think I think there are some good quotes from both sides. I mean look. We give tito ortiz a lot of crap for I mean not just his opinions. But he's just strictly talking about five hype. He's had some comical unintentionally comical moments. That i feel like i feel like for the most part you kind of voided that i think that i kind of thought the bruce lee wing chun line was kind of funny and that anderson silva played off really well so trash talk. Wiser and and hype is far. Because i just actually this actually has had the chance to really unlike belford holyfield Mike have you kinda liked the bills to this. This battle of former ufc champions. I'm viewing this personally. Because of my job in what i cover. This is the main event. This is the fight more. I'm more fascinated about this fight with this fight than i am with the main event and assignment close. It's not even close. So i like it. I think it's of like you're not going to get anderson to to get into that sort of battle with the trash talk and things like that. But i think tito had some good lines yesterday i think maybe the appearance from donald trump junior and then trump on the phone before he gave his prediction may be inspired him a little bit more but i fully thought with one with the wake got into just taking the As seriously as possible. I didn't think we're gonna see much of that. But then we got some some glimpses. We got some of that. Tito gold at the end of the press conference and Even speaking with the math awards. So it's been pretty good. It's it's it's pretty much. What i hope for heading into this thing and to me this is. This is the main event in my eyes. Just because of what. I do and what i cover so i'm looking forward to it Casey who's going to win this one. Who wins the people's the people's main event the ma people's min- annus over versus tito ortiz at a catchweight of one. Nine thousand five hundred hour. Whatever anderson sherwin I don't i. Don't i think he'll to easy decision. It'll be i. I kinda wanna see a knockout. I mean i don't know. I wonder and the anderson's chavez by it was fun to watch but i feel like We've been seeing all these kind of immi guys come to boxing. And this is this the first one we have actually two. Mma guys doing boxing. I know we've of have always like searches. Matches kind of hope. High profile has to be the most high profile just to to to high profile hall of fame. m m may dudes boxing now. I think it's still weird. Why can be an ma match. I mean come on guys this switch clubs out this is doing. Emma may match but couldn't have made this one that or trailer hard on the same guard. Yeah i just think it's just a weird everything's weird. Everything's weird about this Anderson show. When there's i mean we've we've all seen enough of them in their stand up to know the anderson is a better striker just of hands alone If this if this was an emmy match maybe. I was still actually pick anderson but obviously the odd be like eleven to one but just just hands boxing. Only aniston's should win this easily. And tito like like you said it. Mike said tito is he. I mean bob. Tito's thoughts physically physical specimen. He's a big dude. I i said you get him going down to a to a five as always impressive impact when he fought chocolate del the gym i was training at tieto. Will come to that gem and grapple at night and i'll just watch him wrestle like dude a he is a beast wrestling and then i know i've seen a huge. I'm pat patted workings of nothing. Kinda blows you away. Doing bad work and stuff just just knows earning pictures punches. But it looks. It looks like you knew what he's doing. He looks like you know. Just just nothing. Nothing was crazy just fundamentals. Were there but anderson and anderson still understand still. he's still a once in a generation once in a lifetime. Type of striker so Yeah anderson sheds should style on tito and actually. I'm i'm going to go. I'm gonna go. He's got he's got knocked out. Mostly because i think anderson is smart and i had. I don't believe anderson when he says he thought he was gonna make one five. I think the hope was my in my my opinion. He cuts down. Doesn't make you still got a good chunk of change from that way in Weighing the money is the way because at twenty percent and he does now extra dehydrated your brains gonna rally low more and now tito spent so much of his camp not actually boxing but he spent most of his camp doing road work and just trying to drop that weight so he just didn't train. Boxing is my..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Okay people people can can judge their work of his work. Regiment that has restored him in this way on their own but But we're guardless. The veto that i see going in here just looks more youthful faster. I know he's nowhere near the level of boxer holyfield is. I just have a weird feeling. He's going to hurt him. He's going to do enough. Is he. going to knock him out i. I would also doubted that you guys are right. I don't know if there's enough incentive either has enough gas to kind of to kind of go to that next level and actually put the other guy away. But i think he took it hurt on and there's there could be it. Hurt him enough to win a noncontroversial decision to a comfortable decision. That has Kind of wanting to look forward to detours next boxing and kind of hoping that holyfield box again. But that's me. I don't know if that's i. I'm just kind of being the dissenting opinion here. So we've got to holyfield's and the one belfort. Let's talk about the coleman guys which to a lot of the may fight and community is really the main events i mean. This is the fight that most of our listeners. Readers viewers are talking about anderson silva vs tito ortiz. Now was when it was booked wasn't most people's but number one choice for For after the the win over. Julio cesar chavez i think people had a lot of other more creative ideas in mind dido was a bit of an odd choice that guy not known for striking and a guy who was not really near anderson silva's way class as we found out today at the way ends when not weighed in at two hundred pounds which is five pounds over the contracted weight limit and he will forfeit in in very ma style will force twenty percent of his verse to anderson. Self but So i ask you mike. Do you think at any intention of trying to make the way and do think anisimov Knew that he wasn't going to make look t- tito says a lot of things and i can tell you firsthand that i was the third person that interview tito after the press conference i interview. He said he went to sixteen the second interview. He said he weighed two. Oh five i was the third interview and he said he wanted to eleven so take that you want a man between okay. Wow the human body is crazy. Okay so at at at the same time that do like. Here's one here's one thing. That's interesting about anime and pro wrestling all this stuff like you watch these guys on tv and you don't really see them in person when you see them in person like you get to actually gauge like how big they are tito. Looks like ingratiate on scrape on tv. He's a muscular. Like average guy like but really good shape. He's a fighter. You kick the crap about people but tito is a big do like he is massive. So i'm looking at him. Like how in the blue hell is there any chance. You're gonna make one ninety five. Like i don't know how he got two two. Oh five how big was like i was just. I was amazed. I was shocked at how big he is but he got down to two hundred and he stepped on the scale beforehand and then drank pedialyte. So there's a very good chance that he got under two hundred pounds and just couldn't do anymore which is pretty amazing with a guy that and he taught and one thing that was consistent about all these interviews and what he said the beginning was when he found out about the fight was to forty so he cut forty pounds in just a few weeks to get here and i asked him in the conversation. When was the last time you were under two hundred pounds over to over twenty years over twenty years. You've been over two hundred pounds. So i don't necessarily buy into the fact that tito didn't give this any effort because i think i think he did. I truly think he did when i saw him this morning. Yeah he was bouncing around in good spirits when he stepped up on the scale and did that test way. He looked pretty rough. I don't think you go to cut another out. So i will give him all the credit in the world. I think he cut his much as he possibly could. But i do understand at the same token if you sign a contract to fight at one ninety five. You're saying by putting pen to paper. I can make that way. So i get why anderson silva was disappointed. I get why people would be upset about it because you signed a contract by the same time. After standing next to that man. Yesterday i was like. There's no chance he gets to one five. She's not physically possible. But so i do think he gave the effort. But i just didn't lose any chance. I even have sanderson what. I interviewed him. After the way. And i'm like you really thought it was gonna make it. You actually thought he make any said you signed the contract. You're saying you're going to make it so there you go well. We haven't seen the purse information yet. But i would feeling anxious gonna enjoy the a twenty percent that he gets from dod ortiz bought. I think in boxing. I'm pretty sure he has a flat rate to. It's not it's not like where's the show the show and win so that twenty percent is actually probably a much bigger twenty percent even than we're thinking so because you know usually your your your salaries cut in half if you lose so he gets a flat rate so it's going to be even more so good good good good business combining literally right now out there. He heard guys. Here's talking about them here about well. I think i think are are calming. Ernie pretty glowing about. I could be wrong. I don't know what you guys are going to say. I'll say now. some. I've seen him as high as a minus. Eleven hundred favourite on some of the sites Tito around plus six hundred underdogs. So i think when i don't think expectations have changed much from when this was signed again. This is one of the greatest. Strikers may history was the guy who is more known as a wrestler grappler and again. We just saw him very nice boxing. Performance against julio cesar chavez junior so Casey what do you think of those odds. Do you think that that's sarah around the right number..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Break this down. Break this down scientifically you. Can't i do it. I mean this. All right i mean. Here's the deal. You have vitor belfort. Who is gonna come in there. And he's in a big spot. He's gonna make a lot of money in it's it's it's what is it what it is and then you gotta enter. Holyfield is going to do what he's doing. And that is what it is. It's boxer versus mma fighters so clearly when it comes to like oxen skill of and early field is going to be a thousand times better for just the way. It is however wise youth wise that goes towards e tour but again. We're looking at a lot of money's probably coming in from the enemy community on tour. That are not necessarily familiar with boxing. In how oxygen works and how fight week's work okay. I noticed that i mean. This is the first major boxing event that i've ever and it is very different much different than covering a ufc car covering a ballots. Regard is much different. So i'm learning as i go along with everybody else. At the same token i understand the concern. That a lot of people have for bandra holyfield at the same token. I believe there's concern from veto as well retour. I asked me toward the other day. Is the criticism. Fair is the concern. Fair and he was sort of follow up like you know. Are you go out and try to hurt this guy. I don't think he is. I think veto is very cognizant of who he's fighting. I think holyfield is going to go in there. And what i think is gonna end up happening even though it's sanctioned as a professional bout what we're going to see is eight rounds of a hard match. I don't think we're gonna see a full-on boxing match guys are going to go out there and try to knock each other's at heads off. I think you're gonna see that in the other fights throughout the night you'll event. I don't think you're necessarily going to see this one here. I think you're gonna see two guys who are going to go out there and they're going to give you some work but i don't think we're to see two guys giving it one hundred percent and trying to put the other way so i'm going to lean slightly with holyfield based on how i think this is going to go. I just i think it's gonna be hard sparring match. I don't think anyone's going to go out there. And try to knock the other out and i think if it's just a pure boxing sparring match. I think only win. So i think all failed squeaks out like a split decision. Maybe a little bit home-cooked in from the boxing judges. But i mean we're going to be seeing different failed gravy singing a different tune tomorrow night in regards to despite being this is not you know the major damaged vander holyfield that everybody thinks i'm big. I don't think it's gonna be as bad as people think it's gonna be. What's what's the official hack. What official pick. I just sat holyfield slowly field. Only going to squeak out decision that we're going to argue about more mike. What do you think we. We're getting glorified sparring match here. A lot of respect letters. No one really wants to each other. What is the the gloves to use. What you said the big labs using sixteen. What are they using. It gets fourteen fourteen fourteen so normally. This is a normal match. I think there'll be using twelve. I think So using four twelve eighth and not sure actually but so you think fourteens which is almost almost sixteen which is like sparring gloves. How much said of andrew come in at two thirty two twenty five twenty five to twenty five point four v tour at two six point two zero six months. While on scott's automatons gloves turon okay. That's what that's what the commission said. That's a big labs i was. I wasn't sure Okay bigger. I believe though right. Yeah yeah. I think normally they're five to eight ounces. I think I'm actually i thought would Vandor said during the press conference kind laid it out pretty well. I think it was a press conference. So maybe it was interview but we said if this was a fight. A- fight of course door kicked my butt. He knows how to fight. A hotel is a boxer. This boxing and and i think vander he's he's he's going to be the longer bigger guy and he knows how to box. He knows how to do this. And i think it will be a actual pretty boring but dominant decision. Victory for van oldfield. I think he will. He knows how to use his way. He knows we he's he has. He's a veteran. If he does get a little bit of trouble he knows how to tie up arms. He knows how to clench in boxing clinch. Not more tech niche a knows how to use that way and get toward tired and he is going to be a significantly heavier guy. This is this is a vendors. Wait in ways. Be tour is a essentially a one eighty five or who's just not cutting and he's fighting it to a five to six right now so so we got thirty. Something is going to be good thirty pounds good muscle i think evanger will have on the tour and i don't maybe a twenty five year. Old door could overcome that boxing gap. But i think this age before yeah. He's dangerous obviously but only if his hands he won't be used as kegs won't be No ground game. I think that's enough for evanger to I honestly when a lackluster decision using boxing. And it's going to annoy people because Boxing the way evanger. I think we'll win. The fai is not entertaining to watch but I think a banner will win. And then he's gonna make it easy guys i think. Presents compelling arguments for Holyfield there i. I think i'm gonna detour. I'll do it. I'll be that guy ali that guy. That's official guys when when you see predictions that saturday morning. Call me out. If i change it but i think i am going to lean towards detour. The fifteen years is just so much of a difference. I used. I used to think about like how much i used to. When when remember when mcgregor and may were those happening. I think about how old would mayweather have to be from gregor of a chance to be a boxing. And maybe if if floyd seventy five years old f singer yes so. We're kind of in that range here for me with this point where i'm like. How old would vendor holyfield have to be for me to give veto bill for a chance against him and i would like sixty sixty five. I know he's still bigger. I know he's still an awesome shape. That's just a lot and look sixty five on that. I mean did he looks fifty s. Gal you didn't tell me his age gone guys forty two years old same age as detour. I would go okay. I'll veto now. Looks like he's in his thirties..
MMA Fighting
"tito ortiz" Discussed on MMA Fighting
"Everything you've been doing. What's how has the vibe out there man. it's kinda hard to explain the vibe because we really haven't been around fans or anything like that. It's just been other media members fighters themselves and the people who work for trailer and who worked in people covering the event. So it's really hard to gauge like an actual five from what i can say locally around here. Not a lot of people know that this happening in their backyard. They really don't have taken lots of buber's and they're like. Oh what are you doing here. And told him they said as vendor holyfield's comeback back to box. They said he is here. I should bought tickets. So i think it's sold some extra. It's uber drivers targa gauge actual live. From what i mean just being here. It's been a strange week. But i will say this. For an event that has changed events that has changed and use that has changed coasts. They have done a pretty remarkable job. Organizing this whole thing like everything is organized as chaotic is like the card seems to look on paper the event itself all the the things surrounding the event have not been chaotic. At all. it's been very. It's been very interesting. Everything's been on point. They did this all in like three or four days. I mean i came out here tonight and this all happened friday. Not not not. A lot of this was finalized until friday night. So on that end. They've done a pretty tremendous job so my hat goes off to them there. You are In terms of like biden the people. It's kind of hard to gauge. How could anyone really. I wonder how much advertising they have around the city. And you know because again like you said. This was a week ago. This wasn't not only this is not only a different flight. This was in a different state. 's in that in california as Casey casey i'll ask you is do you sense any disappointment. That's not happening california but more so more. So what's what's you're looking at like social media and just kind of things that you've seen and reading. What do you speak for. The casey basically the vibe is about fifty different versions of the word train wreck. That's about it if you know. If the event took place in la it was still had a train wreck phil but it made more sense tito from huntington beach which is only about forty five minutes away from here Oscar being you know. La know there's a frigging statue of oscar outside of the form where he was supposed to make his comeback fight so it everything kind of made sense obviously a lot more media attention here. The band i mean driller made yet sucks also got sick. It's good as healthy. He's getting healthy rather and hopefully hopefully fights. I guess i don't know if it's gonna be tour again. I doubt it now But it just yeah just basically train wreck but driller. They made a decision to take the florida. Go commission shopping. They they feel like holyfield is a a good replacement to dated with the whole lawsuit situation. I remember reading that before the fight happened but hold filled in some legal issues about having a fight. So i don't know if you guys can talk more about that but it's weird it's happening so mean we're here to talk about it but it's Yeah trainwreck it is apparently happening. I thought that this was never gonna come together so quickly. I forgot about the power of money and a trailer and of the great state of florida..
MMA Fighting
"tito ortiz" Discussed on MMA Fighting
"Am your host damon martin. And this week i'm joined by. Ufc veteran invicta veteran and be kfc superstar pearl gonzalez pearl. Welcome in how are you had. I'm amazing how're you on for us. Thank you so much for taking the time Obviously with the podcast where we're talking to fires from all over the place and and we're going to talk a lot of boxing stuff this week. Obviously veto bill ford fighting evanger holyfield tito ortiz fighting anderson silva and last time we spoke of course coming up your big win and your care see you actually told me you were thinking about crossing over nebraska's well yes absolutely. I think that right now. Boxing so You know Overall it it's just a really it's really popular. It's i mean it always has been. But i think crash dovers is a better way to put that crossovers right now. And he's super fights are just so popular right now. And i'm having a blast. I would absolutely love to at some point. Have a pro. Boxing fight Obviously trained now is boxing for bare knuckles. So i'd like to test myself professionally as vaccination in and i'm sure many others are the same way. Yeah we're seeing it so much delicious. Get into it right now. Talk about this because we've seen it so much lately. Just turn woodley crossover and fight jake. Paul i was at that event. It was so much fun. It was a blast. It was just awesome to be there. The crowd was great. I said it. Before the youngest audience i can ever remember seeing a boxing show It was just a lot of fun. Obviously we've got you know You know vitor belfort about to make his. Boxing return actually had a fight years ago. But i'm kind of saying his return this weekend for a vendor holyfield. Get tito ortiz. Fighting anderson silva anderson of course had an incredible performance early this summer. And i think it's i don't know it's weird like all of a sudden is happening all the time and i'm kind of i don't know i'm not sure if it's like there's a there's an interest obviously there's an interest in doing it and i think a lot of fireside interest just like fighters who are wrestlers. They want to win olympic gold in wrestling. And they wanna win golden mma. They also there are people who are interested in boxing. Who loved the challenge of doing. I'm here chris. Lytle did it. Years ago he went over and crossed over and did boxing and have fun with it. But we're seeing it so much more lately. Obviously there's a money factor. We can't deny there's going to be money made some of these big fights but it's also a lot of people are just interested in. I don't know what do you think birlik. Why are we seeing so many mixed martial artists suddenly so just the opportunities there like what is it. I believe it's the opportunities that are there. I think that right now especially after going through the pandemic and and having kind of a halt to everything you know. I think us as competitors me as a competitor. Personally i can speak from. I need competition. I want competition. And if there's an opportunity to present itself in another area of my sport which is press prominently ben. Mma you know..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"You've been spending just pointing towards cases suggest obvious bias in nonsense we finally. I've been saying for years now. We need a judge who's going to call it right down the middle. We got one and look what happens. Let's be clear here. I knew there was very little chance that'd be lone guy without actual may fighting size. That's bs that is how dare you insinuate that. I hate jed michigan for you. Even i just met. Mike heck ak i probably would have given it to him. 'cause we're fucked up and guess what you're from canada to you. Don't think i wanted to give it minus ten points for having the product. The back of you. I must say so. You're already behind the ball But no i. I called this description. Don't shout no some stack. Hey scribe blame others for your For your choke job their job. You offered up a fake phone. I mean really. You think conor is gonna fall for that nonsense. No we need to be practical. Needs to dial it back. You spent enough time with this man at a time with this man the minute and you need to stop this keeping your crazy. Because he thinks he's the king of the world that's you just say not punching old dudes so the decision has been made and just like in. Wwe was at its highest point. The referee's decision is final. You could file an appeal. We have had appeals filed with the beat the al championship committee. Jed knows that. Sometimes i mean every time. It does not go well so not. Well jedis tried and failed. Multiple times on this program. So with that jed michou. You don't get money you don't get a belt you already know this but you get a week or actually five days worth of acknowledgements that you are the man that you are the winner and you get thirty seconds to talk about whatever it is you wanna talk about good bad indifferent. In the sport. Obama may go talk about two things. I i just don't feel like anybody else saw this. What the signal boost to the world. Tangible.
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"You sir are going to be the person in charge of public public relations. Excuse me for conor mcgregor. He has been on a tweet. Delete rampage as of late. He's been sort of all over the place he was all place leading up to the fight with dozen emporia. It's been getting worse since the lhasa dustin pedroia he's targeting everybody formed us emporia his wife to habib and his family to even daniel cormie. It's gotten a little crazy. So jed conor mcgregor sitting right in front of you have a scheduled meeting about his behavior. And you only have one minute to speak to the man. What are you going to say one minute on the clock we track it on my phone. We don't have casey's bells and whistles your time starts now connor man. can you just. Can you give me the twitter password. Just just to me. You can't okay. I'll say this color. You stopped counting old people in the head and that that's a win. Unequivocally it is better for you to talking shit about daniel corrie who was kill you and we'll never fight you than it is to punch old people in the head on camera. Feel like there's there's a middle ground here where you can just not say horrible things about another man's wife and family. So can we dial that back because the rest of it. I'm okay. I'm okay with the daniel for me. It keeps your name out there. It looks a little desperate. You are little desperate so it's fine to let that be. But what if this is what has to happen. I guess i can live with demand. That's my job. My job is to clean up your ten seconds just so long as you stop literally getting arrested because that is a much harder thing. Fix you getting arrested..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Jed michou question. We're crowding the winner via fan vote. Is that correct now. That was last week. Show okay so you're taking a winner. I just picked. No no no no. Don't don't don't don't you worry about that. I got that covered. I got that covered and you. It will all be revealed in a matter of moments da before we move onto that great showing from my best friend super close battle. But jets gonna move on ak. I'm sorry my friend hell of a job like this is normally where i questioned the whole system and throw out all kinds of insults. That anyone within earshot. But i i really feel like Jed was the better man today. I hate to say to hate to admit it. But that is the case This should by the way on my record. This is a triple threat. Outside of the single. Tell casey producer casey. When it's time to tally my record. This does not count Listen i need to get better. I was not. I was not my sharpest today. Mike i appreciate your comments. Today i will get better. That's the only that's the only way to prove chil- kids. I know there's a lot of i know we have a lot of young listeners. Out there you've got to accept your own access for the children your shortcomings and your mistakes. It's the only way to get better And that is that is. That is the the lesson of the day all right. Thank you. ak we appreciate your time. And i'm gonna stick around and watch all right so now it is time for the knock around for those who are new to the program. One question will decide at all. Neither these gentlemen know what that question is and they will each have one minute to give their response. Once that is done. We're gonna turn it over to a very special guest judge. Who's gonna join us at a matter of moments. Casey line is not here. I don't wanna leave anybody hanging. I don't want to have to make this decision. So i have called upon somebody who has guaranteed to call this thing right down the middle. The requests has been sent. He will join us momentarily so until so until he so not like this until he comes on Just to sort of update you on. What's going on with with with the podcast network. And everything going on as you may have seen what the heck no longer happening on tuesdays. This show will now take place on tuesdays thursday. We have something big plans. Were cannot reveal that information yet. Next week we have something special planned for thursday Something that i've been working my ass off on for several weeks It'll be a write up and also a little mini dock. Podcast that put together. It's just wild. The whole stories insane so that will drop next thursday wednesday more information on. That's it's kind of a wheelspin. I guess that's the best way to describe it. We're calling it wildcard wednesday so be prepared for that and then the pre imposed by show coverage That will all continue on so this is all very exciting stuff as we await our very special guest to join us who will be the ruler and make the final decision. I believe he is in the waiting room right now and there he is very is ladies and gentlemen the man who will bring the biggest show in emmy history back to your life this monday. August sixteenth live on. Mma fighting the return of the anime our mondays and wednesdays beginning just a few days. Let's say a low to the one the only aerial aerial. Thank you sir. Welcome the day we have been waiting for is is nearly upon us man how we doing. Oh this is great. This is so exciting to be here on this program. I've been waiting what a year changed to be finally invited and i guess i had to join the squad to be actually invited and to be invited in this final round. I do believe unless things have changed in. You didn't tell me to be a judge is Is quite the honor. So it's great to be here spencer. Good to see you actually in person. I feel like it's been a while. I have seen a kaley quite a bit on my screen. Jedi rocking a ponytail there. What's going on. Are you the heartbreaking. Wow that is something else and the fighting share to just like i like that. Get a few brownie points. That shirt was made famous by the way by the great habibur magomedov. Who for a stretch. A couple of years ago seem to wear it every single photo. Op bizarrely enough In any event. I don't want to hijack things. But i appreciate the invitation mike. It's great to be here. You do a fantastic job as a host moderator. Here and Yeah it's it's great to be officially part of the squad again all right and By the way. I have invited to be on the show so many times. The point of annoyance people up screen shots. Because i got so badly. But you're a very busy man. I get that. But one thing. I will say just to keep the judging aerial. This is something. Casey lied and needs to learn from when he does this from time to time. You're not judging or whether or not you agree with the person making the statement. It's who presents their case better so you'll be judging on that you'll be the hefner of the proceedings if that sounds okay with you i prefer dave heppner. Okay being honest the evil referee. I don't know if everyone understands that reference. That's usually my style not surprised to hear that Casey employs a more biased and corrupt style of judging not surprised whatsoever. typical e. casey banal. I'm gonna call it down the middle here completely unbiased no-strings-attached no no no favorite. So the floor is yours. All right so spencer you are. Of course the man who has the most recent victory on the show three of them. As a matter of fact you have the champions prerogative. Do you want to go first or do you want to pass it on jed. Well i i want to say hello to my countrymen the returning area halawani who in addition to rejoining the great emma may fighting. Ranks launched his stock officially. Today go out and subscribe to it as i have good to see you. We've spoken a couple of times but it is nice to see you with your glorious backdrop. thank you hopefully. The screensaver doesn't kick in while. And as i learned the first of three times that i won't alex keighley's backside when you have the champions prerogative you let the challenger go i and stumble over themselves so jed i turn it over to you and your spicy hot takes. Oh and we have quite quite the question here. So jed you up no surprise here. We're gonna do a little role playing.
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Mean like you said it's it's impressive to see a guy go out his age with the miles he has on him down a division from where he dominated where didn't start great. And how the performance like that against a guy that has been a stalwart not top ten for four or five six years now and pedra knows who just racks up. Fight of the night performances. Who's in who's a tough out for anyone that shares the octagon with them to go out there in constantly beat him to the punch and win a clear clean. Decision was was a tremendous showing. You know kind of reminded everybody that the josie aldo is still very much in the thick of things here at one. Thirty five. What i want to see next is dominant cruise. Because there's a part of me that thinks and look. I'm a big pedro munoz advocate. But there's a difference between beat beating pedra munos and beating those guys in the absolute upper tier of this division. Light t. j. Dillashaw like rob far like corey send hagan and like the two men that will fight for the title. Later this year. And so. I want a little bit of that nostalgia i want josie aldo dominant crews old school. Wbz throwback get joe martinez announcing it. Maybe even do the little blue cage. Setup get dave schaller to come back and hang okayed side and just love it. But i think we're to see him. Fight one of those guys that isn't in the title picture. he asked for. T. j. dillashaw. It makes a lot of sense both in terms of the name value of both guys where both guys are at in terms of the division in terms of kind of waiting to see how things shake out by kinda just feel like if he gets matched up with dillashaw or with or with corey sand. Hagan it gives us a little bit of a reminder of that pure yan fight where it was competitive early but then it just can't be competitive late because josie aldo. Just doesn't have the juice to hang. With the absolute elite class of this division anymore ak josie aldo continues to go out there and impress. We talked about this onto the next one. So you have a little bit of an advantage here. Have your thoughts changed on this. I mean waxed. Poetically what josie al did on saturday. And what is unequivocally the fight to make next for josie aldo junior. Just although is still like the best striker pound for pound in like in the world. I i just i really stand by us I i know there's You know there's evidence again. There's empirical evidence against we've seen him lose fights we've seen him lose fights to mac holloway twice. Okay so i understand it but from the tech from like a technical aspect and just from gosh. There's something musical about the way this guy strikes when he's fighting and it's and it's so missed you know when when when we don't we don't get to see him flight often enough and it so it was great soon back in action. I don't care so much about ever. Seeing him compete for like a title again. If it happens great you know. But spike spencer mentioned like we can compete with the top guys at At one thirty five anymore. There's reason to believe that should fights go into the fourth round fifth round bit up there in age. He's got a lot of mileage. Those those are not ideal scenarios for him because he was putting up a great fight with john. I just feel like periodic lesson in periodic great fighter fine so i'm totally for putting although almost as legends rotation but again with other guys who with one or two wins could be back and you know could be back in the title picture. I'd love to see him. Fight frankie aggregate. I know that story's been told to fight. Give hasn't one thirty five. I just be cool ahead of that. Of course a dominant cruz does the fight. We all want. I don't believe at all in the a although we will kill crews at the state of the careers. I don't understand that all. That's what i dream fight. It's a fight that we should all be clamoring for not not shaking our heads at like. Oh i know who's gonna win this one no you don't. It's not big fans. i'm just debating with. John may not even spencer anymore. And then of course. There's the possibility of dillashaw fight which absurd dillashaw. It'd be amenable to as well because he's a big name and of dillashaw has to fight again. Forgetting to tell the shot he probably would see although those a winnable flight which again on what that Against someone with the with the kind of reputation and you that dilshad wants to give him these older guys. I don't need to see although there necessarily with rob haunts or like. I'm miranda vollers. Maybe some way down the road if he really just wants to stay busy You know but give him at this stage square. Give him these. These magical dream fights that we've been waiting for and if he falls backwards into a shot more power to him but otherwise just let me watch the man. Cook let me. This man is is a chef of striking. Let me watch him cook. Few things have given me more pleasure in my and my m may found on the scene shows although so please get matched up with people his own age who are who are still contenders jed. There's a few things people know about you when it comes to the show you've been on quite a few times since its iteration. We know how you feel about steep amiach. We know how you feel about brian. Sega sucks we know. How you feel about josie yaldo and what he has done in his career. And you're gonna get the chance to reiterate that in a moment more vividly but what is the fight to make for him now after this performance you know what. Let me add this. Just make things a little bit differently with the rematch between algebra sterling. Pyongyang your favorite rematch of all time. Being now official for october. Thirtieth is josie aldo. Now the big jemaine sterling fan on the planet. I want to answer your question. I really do. But i can't. Because i will not let this. Slander go unpunished. This is absolutely horse. Shit about the greatest. He goes need a legends tour. He needs to get a title shot. Joe the jersey aldo from the other night he would whip the shit at algebra main sterling. I don't need any of this. He needs to fight old guys and dominant cruise. You know what. I'll be the anime voice here. I'll be the fans for you. Ak josie alderwood wit the shit outta dominant cruise. The only reason. I need to see that fight is because it's always enjoyable to watch dominick cruz out of that. Because it's a guaranteed win from a boy and i don't want josie aldo to made me lose to somebody because yes he can lose two other top bantamweight but you know if the the balance of jersey aldo is. He can't be peter yang. Who might be the best bantamweight in the world. He's not algebra technically is but maybe on that dude also that used a bad style macho form and aldo was whipping yards asked for three rounds and the way john works. It's not about going to the fifth round which both of these gentlemen seen thing is the problem for although it's not. It's about an escalating amount of violence. On the other end of things. Max holloway didn't beat josie aldo. Because they were in a five round fight. Technically did that. I one because although probably wins the first full on the judges car. Even though things started to turn he beat him. Because max max. Holloway is snowball rolling downhill. And it's not the he is still as good in the fourth-round is in the i. It said he is better..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Spencer. Kite he is playing with house money. Bear he will get to the final question now. Let just add. This will nice. I listen they they they love you. Everyone was very kind in their answers and their responses. I love ak but spencer just just had the argument. They agreed with him. And that's that's at ak i'm sorry don't possess ame- apologized to all the people who supported me who are feeling so rob right now whose voices are not being heard i. I'm not going demand recount. Not in this climate that we're living in today. But i'm just saying i i would love to see those i would love to see those actual numbers mike. I would love to see the numbers. It was very close. Ak it was a very close back and forth But people just know was mean about it they just some people just loved you ak and picked you because they love you and most people just went with with spencer in that and that's it was a very close thing but i will say that will not happen this week. I have put a contingency plan in place. Since casey liden is not here he will not be here so that will absolutely not happened again. This week we will have a winner. More on that later on but spencer congratulations. Let's have a bs contingency plan. Were sean shoddy comes in and late and is the judge specifically so he can give me a loss. Despite the fact that i argue circles around life on it now shana shoddy will not be here today. i can guarantee you that but spencer's in the knockout round. Jed aka. only one of you will make it to the knockout round. This week one of you will be going home and only one of my wonderful colleagues. We'll get to that final question. And and i will judge the four rounds as a whole so. We're doing pride rules this week on sale. Just to keep things on the up and up. There'll be no tom foolery. There'll be no ties at the four rounds. I'm judging on the whole of the episode all right. So let's get into this gentleman. Let us discuss the fallout of ufc. Two sixty five this past saturday night. Let's talk about the official coming out party for one zero gone completely dominates. derek lewis. Striking numbers were outrageous. This was a masterpiece from zero gone. He is now the interim heavyweight champion of the world jed. We'll begin with you. Let me just start here. Did the way you. Viewed sierra gone after that wind. Change a lot in your mind compared to where it was heading into it. no i it just reinforced. What already thought like i mean. I've seen that narrative a lot in a little surprised because To be frank was stunned by how many people pick who is coming into this thing I think most of our staff felt the derek lewis was. He's going to do it in a love the optimism. I love the hope I've i've been a fan of animated for far too long to have hope and it was very obvious to me as you're gone is a much better fighter than derek lewis and is not you know def- he's not deficient enough or dumb enough to walk into a big right hand. Who's going to win like this. I was a little surprised how quickly he was able to turn. Turn the corner right. Like i thought Gongs gonna win maybe a late stoppage but you know probably a A decision but when he when lewis is leg gave out on him Gone gone smell. Bloody finished it. Such really the only thing that impressed me or i guess not impressed me because all that impressed me was a great performance by as the only thing that wasn't entirely expecting just how fast he snapped on that killer instinct But yeah i came into this by thinking. Zero gone was arguably the most difficult challenge for francis out who in the division. And i left this fight thinking. It's exactly the same thing. What did you make of cyril. God's performance spencer. How much did it did that. Performance change your view on him. Same as jet not at all. I mean i i picked going in. I've been i've been as high on this guy is you can possibly be from even before the ufc fighting appeared in tko in montreal and looked good to go through the progression. He's had as quickly as he had. There was no way for me to like. The only thing for me was figuring out where his ceiling sets. And i still don't think we have. Jed said to go out there and have the performance that he did to have that opening create that opening to finish and then pounds. We saw that early in his career. Or the couple submission wins. He had those couple decisions. Where the guys he was fighting didn't really give them opportunities. They played it a little bit safe. They were a little bit back in and kind of just made it so that he goes out and gets twenty five minutes of of time he looks great and derek lewis. The fight played out a lot of ways that i thought it would except for that third round. Finish where you know as soon as you saw derek. Start to mess with his little bit when he got punched a couple of times and they were both from punches. The legos and cereal gone just just jumps right in and shows us that he is the elite heavyweight. We thought he was or a lot of thought he was going in and sets up. Ideally fingers crossed knock on wood. A match up with france francis and that is just amazing to me aka we. I mean we've talked about this event in this fight a million times at this point and we got your thoughts on this on multiple shows. Heavyweight has always been batman on the planet scariest guy always has that look of just just scary individual and gone still wants to be the baddest man on the planet but his approach to the game..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"September twelfth. what fight will we. Will we be talking about being the more competitive fight. This fight between anderson silva and tito ortiz or jake paul versus tyron woodley wish for which is more competitive which fight will be the more competitive fight man. That's you're really. Put me on the hot seat without one man. You know i'm pro. I'll probably lean towards jake. Paul entire woodley being the more competitive fight. I mean at the end of the day. And i think anyone. That's picking anyone that's thinks jake. Paul is just gonna get dominator decimated by tire. Woodley's either i mean i i really think i. I'm not saying jake's ever going to be a world champion but jake's taken seriously but tyrant is a fricken former four-time champion. He's legit legit power. He's not been asking So i think this'll be a lot better fight than that. But yeah like. I don't know the anderson will knock out tito. I don't know if that will happen. Maybe but i think it could be a pretty lopsided you know couple of ten rounds in their kind of performance and at the end of the day that could be even more lopsided. And here's here's one positive way to look at this fight. Ladies and gentlemen if you enjoyed the smile on anderson silva's face when he took on julio cesar chavez junior imagine how big the smile is going to be come september eleventh when he is in there just marching around and dancing in there with tito ortiz. So get excited. I mean it is what it is. Make some money go ahead. And let's not forget. Like i said they're on this car together. I mean the potential here. Let's say because right now the delahoya belford odds are pretty close. Belfer open is a favorite over de la. Hoya you know what i mean. Let's say bell for goes out there and knocks out oscar de la hoya and anderson styles on tito ortiz. Those are two of the biggest stars ever in brazil to the biggest stars in you have see history easily. Put those two in a boxing match. Tell me that's not a massive massive card. Let's say de la hoya beats bell for but it's close or either. It's a competitive fight for several rounds. They get the better. And then anderson goes out there and styles on tito. Are you telling me they wouldn't potentially book anderson against de la hoya and you're telling me that wouldn't be a massive fight especially with anderson now to know you know in recent boxing matches so in a way. This is a plan for the future as well. And as i said. I've pretty much given up on the whole sanctity. This thing i was like they're healthy and they're not going to get hurt doing it. You know go for you know. I mean you know. I don't know if i'm ready to sign up to us. Chuck ladele do bare knuckle boxing. But if we're gonna see tito. Box anderson sure why not and then the other options we could see tito ortiz. Fight oscar de la. Hoya i mean who if what what a world we. The options are endless damon options. This would be the ultimate payback for golden boy. Mma only going one card alternate promoters revenge when he goes after he goes after it forever. Promoting golden boy. Emma may to so many storylines to get excited about but they haven't staples center in los angeles september eleventh oscar de la hoya versus vitor belfort anderson silva vs tito ortiz trailer. Fight club event. It's happening and honestly. I hope i get the hot tag to go. Cover that event damon. It should be a fun week. In la. La land but damon. Thank you very much for damon. Martin mike cac. Thank you for listening. Who knows what kind of news will be reacting to next. You're listening to the vox media podcast network..
The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"tito ortiz" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
"Know what it is but it's something but of course as you. Although by now anderson silva returned to the boxing ring not too long ago. He pieces up. Julio cesar chavez junior he looked amazing doing it and tito ortiz hasn't fought since he beat former. Wwe wrestler alberto l. patrol four camacho america. Unless you count his city council meetings but here we are damon martin. Let us bring you in here. Anderson silva has one of those moments that we were all very excited to see the smile on his face. He had the swagger back in that boxing ring. There's talks about him. Maybe fighting logan paul and now he's fighting tito ortiz in the boxing ring. So you'll one of the folks who confirmed this fight. What went over you when you confirm this information. I i was at first. I was a little surprised with that. I was like why am i surprised they. Why why am. I surprised at all that does is happening. I mean this is the day and age. We're in in terms of You know. Boxing and celebrity boxing and even mixed martial arts with a certain extent depending on how deep you want to go on other signings. They've been made over these last few years. But listen a part of me when all these five sorta i coming together. A part of me was like oh. It's ruining the sanctity of the sport. I don't like seeing these kind of freak show fights but it over time. I kind of realized you know what we've always kind of embraced freakshow fights. I mean you could argue that you know the great. The late great kimble slice when he signed on and then was doing fine. You could say well. That was a bit of a gimmick and you obviously see him punk signing. Ufc was again make. And there's all kinds of gimmick fights out there so who am. I going to begrudge two guys getting paid. I'm assuming a boatload of money to go out there and box each other You know anderson. You mentioned it mike. Anderson looked happier than ever in that boxing match. Julio cesar chavez junior like i was and it was a joy to watch a guy. Who's covered anderson for so many years and and and i'm with everybody else. Consider him one of the greatest fighters of all time to see that guy looked so happy and so joyous like doing his thing again Who am i gonna begrudge him going out there and and listen. This is a low risk. Fight tito's not a boxer by any stretch of the imagination. I mean he. He's not that what he's never been a boxer so it's a low risk fighting that regret. I mean he just pieced up as you see peace. The julio cesar chavez junior legit boxing champion over eight rounds again. You know why not why not do it. And and tedo. What i wrote the story i had to kind of remember. He's a three five win streak. He'd be chelsea on any beat ab and obviously. I know alberto l. patrol and chuck ladele of twenty twenty one or whenever they've on twenty twenty nine hundred twenty eighteen. Is it the chocolate l. But still three five win tweets. He can't say the guys on the downturn of his career and he's too old to do this so why not look. I mean i get it. There's an audience for this. People are talking about it. We're talking about it. Chiller wants to low this card up with names. Stella delahoya return totally understandable. Is this victory lap kind of thing for trailer being able to put this fight together and putting it on this card like is this something. They should be celebrating and shouting from the rooftops. We got this thing done. This is a big deal. Yeah i think to a point you after. I mean Air anderson because of what anderson did the child as junior anderson's next boxing match no matter who it's going to be is going to be buzzed about and no one is going to say it shouldn't happen because we saw what he did to. Julio these shabas junior i mean that was a legit boxing match and even though it was rendered a split decision as a joke it was a unanimous decision anderson easily won six. Maybe even seven of the eight rounds No one can say he shouldn't. Yeah there now. I'm not saying you should put them in the ring and say we're going to have the matchup with cannella where we're going to fight you triple g or some crazy like that but tito ortiz. Where's the risk i mean. Where's the risk factor in this. And then you know tito. I mean you know i mean listen again. The guys legitimately on three five win streak. And obviously he's taken an l. Off the huntington beach city council. But that's a whole other kind of thing but I listened to guy tito is still relatively active fighting recently. And we know he's still training and again i don't i know this sounds weird saying this because obviously you can get hurt in any combat sport. You're doing but i feel like this is a far lower risk for these two guys to box each other than if you were going to tell me. Hey we're going to book anderson silva against riot hall in the ufc. And that was. That was tough to watch. Seeing anderson lose that way and his last year of c fight. That was hard to watch man. I i hated seeing that in this particular case. It's it's it's low risk and high reward right now. At least from what. I could find the opening. Odds have anderson silva as a minus five hundred favorite the comeback on tito ortiz. Plus three fifty. I was surprised by this line damon. This line should be much larger for anderson sufficient. It like we should be looking at like minus seven eight close to a thousand range in this case. I mean i understand the tito's on three five winning streak in anime but he just seems like i don't know i. It just doesn't seem not that he doesn't belong but it just seems he seems like the one of these things is not like the other. Tito's like the other in this case like in my crazy. no actually. That's the prizes me i. I don't bet on fives. But i feel like i need to take out a loan right now. The money down on this one because innocent should be a nasa favourite. And that's no offense to tito. It's more recobbled into anderson me anderson. We saw what he just legitimately did to a book too legit boxer and did it very well. I mean you could argue. Maybe the size difference will be a little bit. But i mean you know they're gonna find a catchweight some even though tito will probably come in and have if twenty pounds on him. I don't know doubt really matter in the fight. And i mean let's let's not forget. There was a time years ago when tito to re-sign as uc contract. He made dana white commit to a boxing match against them and then the boxing match fell apart. And data's claim and i know this is dana. White says the data's claim was is he actually put a real legit training in and and went out and worked with real boxers to get ready and tito didn't really want to do that. Because it could potentially be an embarrassing situation petito to lose or to have a close boxing match with his boss from the ufc into never happened. So yeah i have a hard time believing. Tito's going to do well in this fight. I think anderson as i agree with you should be probably i mean. Let's just say let's be hypotheticals. Okay tito has been a size on and maybe a little bit of power. So let's mice eight hundred nine hundred but yeah i mean yeah minus five hundred like i said. I'm taking out a loan to put some money down on that. Because anderson anderson should be a massive favourite in his fight. What a fascinating time. We live in damon. Let let me let me throw this out. There just got feeling whatever comes to your mind come..
Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz face off on UFC Hall of Fame red carpet
"Saw the chocolate dal tito ortiz staredown tonight before the hall of fame inductions for the ufc there was intense staredown between the ice man and tito the huntington beach badboy for their third the trilogy fight in their barring series the first two fights were terrible looking forward to this third fight you can tell mafias excited about it listen so your boy the iceman who is an old friend of ours says he never gets tired of hitting tito ortiz he's always running his mouth i really don't like him he said he's getting paid fat money to do this fight and carver high's having none of it listen having none of it you back ufc's event this week to try to launch their own promotion for their crappy fight going why can't even afford their own press conference for.