7 Episode results for "Tim Pace"
eps.059 - LIVE - The State Of Crypto
"I guess I should turn my mic on. I lack give my money. What's up everybody it's your manager of Blackburn Burn? Welcome to the BITCOIN. Our and we have some fun things we can talk about tonight. It's just me you know if if things get a little fun and crazy maybe wide somebody on here are there but I definitely wanted to address a few awesome things that I've been kind of putting together coming into twenty only twenty that. I think that will really inspire and bring a lot of anticipation and excitement into what's going to happen in the New Year. You know what's been going on folks a lot has has been going on and I you know I I saw. Obviously we covered a little bit from that dip down a sixty six hundred ish whatever and and you know most of that had to do with the impeachment announcement right. I mean if we're honest that's what happened. I mean the the bad news of the world is bitcoin. Best friend as price moving price movement goes and. That's not a good thing right. That's not what we want to be all right so I'm GonNa talk a little politics night. I usually don't and I'm not going to be divisive. I'm going to be very inclusive in this. You know my personal profile is very different for those who are friends with me. If you're not friends with me you can follow me on facebook. I'm get close to my Max on friends again. I did go through a purge not too long ago and I do have some extra room so if I know if we've been friends for a little bit if we've been talking for our quest to try gotta make sure you felt those last few spot I wanNA start off with. I want to remind everybody that you know in about five months year. Five and a half months six. We'll call it six months from now we're going to have. It is six nine. Actually we're going to have the having right the having the have the housing what's Ryan Go gators Chop Chop Ryan is on that Bravo coin train. I don't blame you man. I'm going to have at a Bar Lamont again at some point soon probably insead. He's got some things is he wants to do for the community. So we're going to do that. I think what what Adams been doing over Bravo has been you know. Second to none in Crypto at the moment and I'm proud of him but I I WANNA I wanNA stay on a little bit of topic here and that is you know folks. We are a very unique blend of the world. What the the the crypto the CRYPTO versus? We're we're a group of people who for the most part are here for financial gain if you're honest right right but you know have accommodated the opposing view because there's a mutual interest and I just don't think it's that hard to replicate in real life. I don't think it's hard to replicate that excitement. That that that joining of hands that Okay I know we disagree but look we're all on the same team. Look look what's happening. It's so awesome. Life is not that bad folks. I mean I'm speaking speaking specifically do Americans here in this case but I definitely want to make sure that you know that. I'm not only talking about America. I'm talking about the CRYPTO verse. When I I say this? Bitcoin is not going anywhere. First and foremost. Let's make that very clear. The having is coming up. We've got the election coming. There's is going to be a lot of news is going to be a lot of really positive. Things happening for Crypto. I mean we're not done with the Lieber stuff I know it's been quite for awhile but levers there's been a lot of money invested into that already. It's not just going away. What's up Adam? Thanks to join a man There's just a lot of really cool things that are going to be really positive. I think for Bitcoin. In one of those positive things is the negativity that facebook and Lebron Culebra the wallet. They're they're they're they're going to. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA soak up that negatively and there's GonNa be lots of room for bitcoin growth there's a moment in the Bitcoin Crypto blockchain time period where things shifted and this is. I'm speaking historically here. It went from Bitcoin coin then it went to light coin. Does you know among a few others. bitcoin dark this shift. And there's something else allowed people to be open minded enough to watch the ICO market market. They had gotten into DOJ early. Guess what you'd probably be pretty rich right now right. I mean and you didn't Doj wasn't oh I see oh does and like coin I mean these were mimics and they were forks of love of Bitcoin. And so what's up nick. Going to see watching from Jamaica. Now you are Mr Baz the scam man. How's it going on jaw? The Canadian says how do I get on Rob. You WanNa get on tonight. How do I get? I'll I also give me a minute. Let me let me kind of a shape this episode. But if you're GONNA be around I'll I'll let you on for a little bit. Get set up. Man Put some headphones on. So I don't have an echo if you have some if not I'll deal with echo but you know I'm kind of everywhere at the moment but it all leads. The one thing is twenty twenty is set up to be that historic movement that we've witnessed. I know look for you. Democrats listening. I'm not talking about all you gotta in a low sensible democratic and liberal friends and I'm not here to talk shit about you but what I will tell you. The party has deteriorated rated into this and tolerant. You must abide by these rules or else and the Republicans literally just went through a shift. That's the exact opposite it. They had these rules and guess what happened. Donald Trump stopped all over sixteen candidates on his way to getting the nominee nomination for the Republican candidacy to see and then ultimately the presidency. Think about that. That's you right now and if you think I'm wrong you're an idiot and I'm I'm not joking when I say that your party is where the Republicans were after the Bush administration. I don't WANNA call fail failed regime or anything and I'M NOT GONNA get too political. I don't want to be divisive here. I'm telling you the Andrew Gang or the Tulsi Gabbard is not wrong and that's the unifier for you. That's the the one that's shifts people from the center from the even the the leaning right into sensibility. Donald Trump knows exactly glee. What he's doing every time he trolls every time he laughs every time he does something and I really really really want people that take a a strong look into this and say we have a chance with someone like Andrew Young? We have a chance with someone like toes Gabar to at least unify conversation nation. And I and I am very very proud of many of the friends that I know in the in the many of the friends that that have have come to me and said these things and so it's important to be said and also bitcoin is going to be part of this conversation. And so I do think Andrew probably about fifteen years ahead of his time and I'm a personality. They have a conversation about these things. And I've always always always said that you know dividing is the is the wrong answer but look we got. Ah Crypto is going to become political folks. We're going to be political. I see your comment brandon. Feel man like we look. There's a difference in this is is that we've gotten to a point now where things need to be talked about and I'm not sitting here. Saying trump is the should be the president. I am telling you though. I'm telling everybody. They were in a position in Crypto. We we are shaping the future and we've got to recognize it and we cannot be blocked in or we cannot. We can't can't pull ourselves into a position where we're not able to function at a at a any level because we're so set on a certain topic topic you've got to keep an open mind in this space folks and I'm not just talking about so bitcoins price can go up. I am a decentralized minded minded person I want government to be as involved as minimal as possible period if the government doesn't have to be either keep them out we don't need government we can self regulate and that's the free market that exist. Guess what we're sitting here. We got scammed crypto currency. ICO's Oh what a scam guess what it is what it is. Take your licks. Learn your lessons and let's get better. Let's not look back. Let's not sit here and complain. I and I will say over the last four months. It's been a lot better. People have finally finally gotten over. Look I'm I am just as freaking pissed as everybody else. I'm just as mad that my money or my investment or whatever it might have been went to zero okay and probably never to return but a kid over it. I'm over it. I'm moving forward and this is really what I want. This episode to really encompass folks I want I want people to really take a look at what is the future of the blockchain. It's not only bitcoin anymore. No matter how much of a maximal issue might be. Bitcoin coin does not only do the blockchain there are thousands upon thousands good and bad projects running around being in crazy doing what they wanna do a free market and if that scares you get out because you weren't made for this space now that's not to say regulation should be there regulation can start with us though and we've learned these lessons and let's implement them into education into opportunity into fixing things that are broken because we all have a very similar goal in mind and most of that is usually usually on a monetary level. And I'll be the first one admit that I hope bitcoin goes up. But that's not the only reason why I'm here. I'm here because this space Has Allowed a certain level of future. Hope if we don't capture it take advantage of it and seriously do something with it that makes sense. That's not here just for profit. We're talking about the future of our liberty and you know what it's always really funny to me. I mean I I'm guilty of this. This is not like a skull. The Republicans and Democrats maybe the most hateful all people towards each other in the whole world when it comes political parties aside from regimes like North Korea etc aiming knowledge them. But if you go talk to a I don't know a Frenchman all right or someone from Norway they there's not a huge difference like they of course Europe tends to be left leaning. So you know they'll see like an Obama or a hillary as as as progress but they don't see them as the answer right now like okay. Okay Americans finally getting it. The future of politics in the United States is Andrew Wong period. It is if you disagree with that. You're not looking back in history. Republicans today would probably be considered Democrats of twenty five years ago. Andrew Yang has some forward looking statements and this is not an endorsement. This is not anything. This has really unaffiliated to the twenty twenty election. But what. I'm trying to point out in this. Is that if we if we recognize the leaders of the space and as minimal as Andrew Gang is ever been involved in Dan a A blockchain he's aware that it's really important folks and we have got to take accountability for the space and build it on our own. The more the government gets involved the slower. It's going to be the longer it's going to take. And the more time for big corporations for big data to come and steal your shit and make it a law because they will pay you for they will pay them for it. The opportunity opportunity to continue to do that and rob just on. Cue says bribery works. I'm assuming that's what you're talking about but I am so so motivated right now and it's taken it's been this is unaffiliated to the political situation is truly watching. What can happen in twenty twenty? It's got to be our year and I'm not just pretending I'm not just saying that I'm not trying to write anybody up. Twenty twenty has to be our year but and I need you the listener. The viewer the common person. I'm a common person. I don't pretend to be the smartest dude in the room. I know for a fact that I can go and make some stupid comments makes them think I'm evening bitcoin right. I'll go on there and be like Yo. How do I get? I literally ask somebody how I get. Oh my bitcoin onto the lightning network right and I had to get walk through that. This was about a month and a half ago so I had to get help from somebody to literally get bitcoin onto late night work. I should have done this a year ago or whenever February. I didn't know right and that's okay. It's okay if you haven't done it. You're allowed to be ignorant to that for that moment in time but I put it off too long. I learned it. You need some so help me. A message. Point is this twenty twenty has to be a year that we captivate pull together as a space. No more of this post about this coin and everybody says it's a scam. ACCEPT EVERYBODY WHO's bought into it who they're fighting with everybody. That's the stupidest what if your mom walked into that room and saw that happen. She was like what are you doing. Why how could you possibly? Why why would you put your money there while pinching you can you blame her? I look we have got to get our shit together. Folks we are we. We are thinking and accepting that there's a higher level of doing things we recognize. We're not there yet. You're waiting waiting for everybody else to do it for you. And that's just simply stupid. Do your part and you can start by basic basic basic beginnings. Thanks and that is stop being so immature and and just a target of people's you know I like this coin or I don't like this coin it's really simple just keeps growing folks now. Don't get me wrong. Is there another big connect happening. Yeah what what we just saw China. Just go through two billion dollars rob. I'm going to send you a link here. Shortly and anybody else and and Brandon. I welcome you on tonight too. By the way I would repeat. He's a tropical. I don't agree with that but that's funny. I laughed I was that was good. That's actually the first time I've seen trumpet Compared to the connective probably isn't the only time it's been done but It caught my. I'm GonNa Bring Rob on. He said he was ready to come on a nice on my let them come want brandon. If you WANNA come on just send just let me know in the in the comments so I can see. What's up Adam gase? Hopefully you're still watching folks. bitcoin join Crypto blockchain. That belongs to us. I mean look not everything in blockchain is decentralized and that's supposed to be you know I mean not everything needs to be centralized regulation or some sort of regulatory aspects of governance. Humans crave that Shit. Right I mean go look at the most basic primitive examples of this and go go go into the go look at guerrillas. Guess what there's a basic governance there as primitivism might be. You know there's instinct in that. Somebody's in charge there. And whether it's a body the of governance or whether it's a person or whether it's something it's getting to the point where we understand and conceptualize what is governance. What what does it mean on the further blockchain and how do we get to a point? Where as a collective unit regardless of political opinion we can start understanding understanding the politics of Crypto and blockchain? There is politics that are going to be very important. If you don't believe me go look at facebook. They're dealing with the politics of tripped out now. Beautiful thing is you can't call them the. Oh bitcoin right so she ain't showing up and he's not the CEO. However there's a lot more benefits than just a decentralized currency that blockchain enables? And I look I got plenty plenty of maximum friends that say. What are you talking about any other coin for man? Look that's your opinion but if you don't think the blockchain is going to do great things for this world and is going to be the savior of the technology technological data boom. We've got to pull back our own own data man shut up and I'm a maximum. I don't believe anything needs to be bigger than bitcoin but I will never take it. As far as has nothing shell should exist all right. I'M GONNA go ahead and post this this link in the comments and rob just copy and paste it. You gotta use a chrome browser anybody else. Who wants to jump on? After Rob's over you're more than welcome. I want your opinion. I want here Adam Gambro. I'm waiting for your your debut Lisa House ago and doll signal. Oh please join me Lisa. All the way over there in an Aussie land all right so well. I'm trying to. I'm sure rob trying to figure that out right now type in your name rob once you get in you know I I love to Patrick. He's got the song stuck in my head can't tell me nothing. So he's got me really motivated right now. You're the song it's good. I'm not gonNA play because I'll get booed off of a facebook. We'll make that interesting. Jim when you hear this. Please make can't can't tell me nothing by Kanye West. The interesting all right we got we got we got a visitor. Everybody Ho Ho Ho. What's up? Hey on on no I can hear you. You sound great and I love your Black Santa Hat. How do I shut this? The other thing off. He's going to click out the there. We go hi how are you doing. That's better what's up Daddy. Nother Day drove headlong. Actually they drove a six hundred fifty miles today for my day job from where to wear from Salt Lake City to Saint George Utah. which is almost Las Vegas and back okay fair enough so for having a day job driving a lot you sure. Do have an awesome setup. They're Nice Mike Nice hat. It looks like you were ready for this. What do you? Why do you have a podcast? I really am. I go just the Rob McNealy program at rounded nearly dot com. Look Danny sesame showing up on Q.. What's up Danny? Danny's Anna Anna comments now but I just got the mike yet. The New Mike yesterday which is actually the replacement from my old Mike which I sold a couple of years ago but I really like the way in our e twenty. Mike sounds better with my voice than a Nessa on seven be sure but I like the twenties a lot with jet well and for those of you and as you can see in his name he is the CO founder of Tusk. I got a chance to to meet Robin Person In in Vegas really genuine dude. Now I'm looking forward to what you gotta say tonight man. What's going on all I? I just the pop in man. I got all sorts of opinions about stuff and I'm usually a heretic and Maxi's usually hate me but the one thing I wanted to piggyback doc on you said earlier about some things in blockchain's should be centralized. Here's the thing I think. Customer Service should be centralized because people like to do business with people people they know like and trust and this is the one thing that a lot of autistic kind of you know people that don't want to deal with people they don't get that the fact is people want to talk to people. People people want an eight hundred number. They want someone helping with customer support face to face income in their store and help them onboard Cry You know their story in Crypto into their retail environment And for those who say that doesn't matter I would say they don't know what the hell they're talking about and promise. Most people in Crypto aren't actually sales marketing people or product launch people or Business Development People. And they don't understand those things. I always say this. I'm not gonNA tell our development team how to develop but I also tell them that they probably should let because because you know developments like a skill right charts so is it's not just a skill. It's highly highly needed skill at the moment but so is business development element marketing and sales. Yup Well said well said now. Okay so I hope I do want to. I'm going to butcher. This CMO Ahmed He asked why bitcoin crashing in between nineteen look. Let's be real here folks. Bitcoin doesn't crash. It just exists exists and you the consumer the user the holder you put the value on when to buy and sell right. It's a free market so so is it crashing. Well this time last year we are around thirty one hundred thirty five hundred dollars in. I'm not gonNA pretend like you know life. I wasn't a little bit bleak at the moment least financially speaking so when you say crashing. I say we're up one hundred percent bro but if you bought two years ago you're down a a lot of percents but what if you bought three years ago. Maybe not. Maybe there's plenty of people who have bought into but it's relative right so I think store value she. She'd be a little more consistent in flat. That'll than that metal come regulation. Maybe I think I think really and a lot of people. I don't think understand this. But why is the dollar so stable and and and the reason is because people use it everybody uses it and I think what happens is so much of the fact that most of these crypto currencies out there in fact all of them right now. No one's really using them for buying and selling goods services and I do believe whenever never the winning cryptos that actually cracked the killer app of payments actually manifest. And we don't know which ones are going to be that one yet I do believe that those Ios Cryptos the ones that are actually being used are the ones that are probably more get more stable quicker than projects that are speculative investments. Because that's what's driving the volatility. Elodie absolutely no look. I cannot agree with anything he said. I offer and a spectacular display space. People aren't here to sit around and say EH. Yo Look I want this price of just say stay the same. I mean if you were just doing that you would literally only doing business on a transactional basis. And that's that's what you would need. bitcoin offers a little bit more than that. It is unstable it is volatile. It is violent you know and In in price movements events obviously not natural physicality although unfortunately at times it has given people the reason to be that And I don't condone that anyway just for the sake of argument argument but You Know Rob. You're somebody who I think has has conceptualized the needs of this space. Obviously with Tusk and what you've built you know what you're putting Ford Lord you know you have some some reasons for these things. What do you think? Bitcoin is missing the Mike. I mean you know to go and I'll I'll say this every project that it comes out on the blockchain whether it be any RC twenty token whether it be off. And I'm a fan of Komodo. I think they're they're they're chain is a blockchain is fantastic among and several others. You know I'm I'm a fan of a lot of projects and I just want a few of them to succeed and I will support all of them and they're going to eat each other up at some point and there will be some some giant corporations style blockchain's at some point. It's just the nature of a free market. But what do you see. And why would you have the audacity to go and create something else. Well it's funny. I actually got excoriated yesterday by a maximalist about that exact question and I said in this debate because that it was the question. Why don't you just do this on Bitcoin? I said okay. Well why who am I gonNA put in my My travel expenses to if I tried to build it on Bitcoin by the way You know most of the people that say that have never launched a project don't like and typically don't like marketing and sales functions and don't like marketing sales people and they don't even view them as legitimate things or see those professions so it's hard to relate to a lot of those guys but so what do I see the problem with a lot. CRYPTOS is run by developing teams. They're they're not run by entrepreneurs and not run by marketers and so I think the fundamentally they don't value sales is it marketing and how important that is to getting mainstream adoption of their product A lot of the guys in this space believe that build it and they will come as a thing when that's horse shit anyway anybody. That's in sales marketing. Your Business. We'll build in the comes nonsense especially with a new type of product or a new technology That's why you know if if word of Mouth Marketing Marketing was the only thing that would work with new products. Then you know Google and Microsoft and Tesla when do any marketing right and facebook when do any marketing and they all do Extensive there's been millions and millions and millions of dollars marketing their products. That may not even at that innovative because markings thing and it's facts a. Hey you have to do so. I think part of the problem is either completely decentralized teams that have no team they're not performing the marketing functions in their projects and in fact in the development teams that I've talked to over the last couple of years. They absolutely hate marketing sales people so if your marketing sales if you're you're you're crypto project Jack which is led by a developer and go to go to go to coin market cap and look at all the top products that actually have teams somewhere in behind them and look at the makeup of those teams. You'll see lots of developers. You might see some legal advisers somewhere along the line They might have raised a billion dollars. You you don't see marketing people on their teams at least high level positions and to me that means a couple of things that that team doesn't value those functions and the team the organization is not performing those functions and I absolutely believe that sales and marketing are really really vital now. Look I can't can't argue you as far as you being wrong. I can say that there's a time period for certain things but you know one of the things that you said is is look facebook will get you know Microsoft. These people market market in some capacity or the next visa. Absolutely there's Mastercard Amex Louis so does pay pal absolutely and like you said. There's a reason why they they do it. It makes sense and the amount of money it takes to play. That game is substantial right and there's probably only a few companies companies and one of them you know and unfortunately or fortunately depending on if you're a holder you're just somebody who loves decentralisation ripple is probably one of the only companies that is capable bowl competing at that level and I've heard rumors that they're actually going to be one of the main sponsors of the next Olympics. We'll say either way. I don't think that's a bad thing. I look. Let people hear about Crypto let people find it credible and then let them start exploring it. There's gotta be a bridge somewhere. There has to be. Well I say this and this is when the the focus focus with our test project by the way we are going completely two main net this weekend graduation so I wonder if you wanted to come on the show. Actually I was just literally about about to go to freaking sleep and then you came on like all your things lit up. 'cause I'm only six thirty six thirty. I'M IN UTAH. Saw Mountain time but I got up at four thirty where you're at. No it's five thirty five thirty. Okay okay so I got up and drove six hundred and fifty miles. Did some work fares entertainment. So I'm just telling I'm not I'm just giving but but if you ever you make really good points though and to me I say one you don't have to do the quote Unquote Marketing Marketing. That visa does right. Because you're starting you don't have to do it that way. I think part of the problem with the other thing I think is missing from a lot of Cryptos is that again the build they will come mindset which is nonsense and I don't care what frigging Maxi wants to argue. They're full of Shit if they think you're going to get a new any new service or product in the market decentralized otherwise without sales and marketing you're full of Shit and I'm I have no problem saying that and their argument rebuttal to that is. What is Bitcoin Gone With no marketing? The bitcoin has not got massive option for payments with no marketing on a look. I'm not saying that but I'm telling you right like it's worked. Go in. There has been no marketing. It's been self stealth marketed. I'm not disagreeing with that. And it does have network effect but that network effect I believe with Bitcoin. Core is actually being squandered when they changed range from the payments narrative to the store earlier because that payments narrative makes a lot more sense when you have huge network effect. But here's the thing if you WANNA switch your market that bitcoin was it's like two bucks and it made sense. So but here's the thing right like how many people are gold bugs store value people versus how many people use paypal and ah so to me market sizes. But here's the thing that I think that a lot of people in crypto are missing. Is that a lot of people word of mouth or any other marketing. I think they're missing. This thing is that they're trying to get people. That crypto dozen solvable problem for them anyway and they wanted to try to pitch those people and that doesn't make any sense in fact at this this point and for a whole lot of reasons and crypto creates more problems for most people and if you're trying to create a product or service that creates more problems. I'm from people that just kind of a waste of time. So at least with us the task we're focusing on you know. We're starting with an industry that has a recognized problem so if you're trying to oh create a new product or service. That is a little more complicated or difficult or challenging than the existing paradigms. Never that spaces you need to focus on people that have recognize. Problem and people in Crypto aren't focusing on that and I think that's probably the number one thing but they're not marketers. They don't think that way. I don't think in terms of market segmentation Asian martial transitioning and product launches. And things like that. It'd be hard for anybody to technically. You know say that you're wrong like I think that there's a lot of companies trying And and I'll give a shoutout to orchard taking client has been a member of C. C. or some time You know she's been a member that team and orchard. I don't I don't have a ton of knowledge about it but they have marketed well to the crypto verse and they have built a certain style of credibility that has been very unique. It's been for refreshing to kind of see something else step in and and nobody really have a positive or negative opinion about it. That's that's a really to me. That's a really good thing you know and too many companies come in saying I'm GonNa make you rich and although older they may not say that outwardly that's what their intent and their marketing style and the perspective is what attracts a certain style of investor. which is I want to get rich? Quick that's got the change to to that. Perception is being squeezed right now. We're finally getting to the point where I think people have. I don't WanNa say realistic expectations because they have overly pessimistic expectations. And you probably dealing with that on some level or the next with Tuscano but I know your goal is not on a personal of just from the minimal interaction that you've had rob job. I've been impressed with your your reasons for existence. Your reasons for building something different. It's not so you can get rich. It's so that you can build something that's going to allow now. You know a a hold refilled the focus. I mean we've been in the space for two years not ICO We bootstrap Air Sea Twenty Fokin All the people working on the team have actual fulltime jobs The everybody's working I call them. Incentivize volunteers all the development team. They're getting a little chunk tokens for their time and hope that they'll go in value but And we're quite. I don't hate to interrupt you but not really I wanNA make appoint wake the same people who will sit there and say oh the founders. Gooden all his money are the same people who are GONNA be like. Oh look they're not even fulltime devs. What are you talking about how people wake up being such an asshole? This is what I tell you. If you're you know and I'm not trying to pick on any product but there's like you know we we talk about fair launch occurred like Raven client. Is You know Tron. Black is one of our develop as one of our advisers but the entire Raven. QUAINT team was completely paid for. It's still is there fulltime employees MEDICI ventures. It's not even listed on the website. So okay technically. It's open source and no one owns it but there's a corporation that's what millions of dollars you know covering the cost to build that you know and in our case we didn't. We never sold a token. Everybody literally volunteer. Now I can tell you it takes longer to get shipped on but I can tell you that we're once we're may network completely sustainable. Every we don't have a burn rate. We're chasing We don't have any overhead overhead. There's no president at all on chain governance And so to me I feel like dude. It was really freaking hard and you know what. I'm fortunate that my wife and I do pretty well in our personal lives and Rahmael consulting company and my wife's a medical doctor running a big thing out back east and and so. I'm fortunate that I don't have I. I don't live paycheck to paycheck and I can literally basically work fulltime on Tusk for two years without having to make money from it. If I wasn't able to do that tusk wouldn't exist. Chimed the one that's going in and by the way I spent more focused on the US gun industry. And I go to more gun conferences than I've crypto conferences because that's where our customers are by the way there's no one else from any other crypto project at any of the leading gun projects. The Gun Rights Policy Conference. NRA Conference of the The SR Sir at an forget national shooting sports foundation their retailer Expo. There are no crypto products at any of them. I'm the only one there well and by the way as a as Zeh Second Amendment Not just advocate believer right As a inherent. I can appreciate that but obviously you got a lot going on. Tell her where they can find you. Because I got a couple more people were going on here shortly. Robin. It's been a pleasure to finally see again man. And I'm hopeful that you're able to hop on the night and join us and be part of the The conversation and you know we'll have maybe a more in depth conversation about this on bitcoin radio but let's let's where can people find you. Yeah you can check us out a TUSK DOT network S. T. U. S. C. DOT network stands for tough stands for the Universal Settlement Coin. Absolutely man I appreciate your time dude. We'll talk to you soon. And Good luck with everything Alma. Happy to hear that you guys are may not and I look forward to seeing the success. Thank you so much. You have a great day. Absolutely bro season. All Right Rob dropping all man look a got a Danny sesame from the crypto show. He's going to be a little bit later. Here in a minute Happy to allow others to jump on a trip all him. Tim You're always welcome as as you know Baz likes to run his mouth but he won't he doesn't want to hop on. Just kidding Bassett thing probably about five or six times David Dave come. Jump on 'em I'd love to hear your thoughts on what's going on with the market anyways but Moving forward you know it takes people like level rob said just a second ago. Is that you know without him being able to you have a full-time job. And be able to sell self-sustained himself between him and his wife's income you know his is blockchain. Wouldn't exist in to me. That's exactly the way that you should build something you know. That's that's how you want to build something that's how you want to be perceived as that you built something because you knew that it was needed. Not Because you're GonNa make much money and you know we're we're all fine with it when we were also making money but now it's like oh they're making money and they stole all my money and look at this as a scam now. I don't feel sorry Tim. It's all good brother. You know I love Eh. You're you're doing your own thing and if you're not tim pace everybody on on social media an all or on trading view Tim. He's been he was one of the first the first three guests three four five guests on bitcoin radio. This dude came from. I've never done my life and within three months had had become the number one most followed person or at least shared. I can't remember what it is. I don't want to speak for you and I don't want to lie about it but the the number one bitcoin charters author you know not necessarily saying he's the best. There's nobody else that's doing a better than literally saying I. Tim Pace optum Pacer here. I'm Tim Pace and I'm trying my hardest and I'm GONNA literally put my my whole journey of never knowing the TA whatsoever to literally knowing Ta Right now and and I'm GonNa Learn in front of all of you and and let everybody make fun of me and let everybody tell me how stupid. I am. Folks Social Media's a pain in the ass it was number one for the binds charts. That's right it was thank you number. One bitcoin author for the Binat starts in. Like for your I mean it takes people years to get to that point still am Atta boy. Heisenberg BTC anyways. But this. This is just a small piece of the Pie. Folks Twenty twenty. It's GonNa be fun. Twenty twenty is going to be fun. I'm not saying that Bitcoin is going one hundred K next year. But I'm not saying it won't right. That's not the purpose of that comment. Though the purpose is to say there are things going on and right now that are drastically going to help the credibility of Bitcoin when I hear about the US government and this bipartisan partisan Louis Printing allowing money to be printed at the level that it is. Let's just say you have ten thousand dollars and you put it. In the bank and traditionally fifty sixty years ago grandparents. They can put money in the bank. They're gonNA make money on that not to mention it only costs like a the one hundred and fifty bucks a month to like to exist. You know But today's a lot different than that day. Because every time they print that you know billion or trillion dollars you know extra money over a certain amount of time that devalue the dollar that already exists. They're not getting rid of any burn. It keep that in mind right there literally printing on top of an over saturating the market anticipating that the world is going to continue to use the US dollar and whether the year that you're the euro whether you're the Chinese won't want you on and And and so forth you're going to be subjected to what your government does to bring about stability and growth the man stop putting money. Start destroying money. Let's see what happens if what if the government started this. Am like we're just going to start. We're GONNA start burning our dollars right like like a token burn man. I mean like that's never we're going to happen folks. Every dollar that exists will always exist. And when you lose your dollar. That's one dollar. They don't have to account for idiots. Let's stop losing dollars. Stop writing on dollars or or riveting and half to do magic tricks crazy call the. USDA stable coin is an oxymoron. More on not bad tempests. Yeah agreed I don't think anybody would be surprised if that comment And less you don't know about bitcoin and and then it's just the same and you just see prices of everything else going up. And then it's the government's fault it is but it's the backwards reason why it's the government's fault. Is that the government's fault because they're raising taxes axes our prices necessarily on a certain. You know my milk. I go by gallon of milk is five dollars. Go Buy Coffee at starbucks is eleven right crazy crazy but why is that is it. Because the companies can but the company's blame it on how much everything else is costing the new taxes but it's really inflation folks inflation Fiat burn recipe. Says David Hoberman. Dave Dave please join me my man if you get chance. I'm sure you can't can't world. She would already done it but I don't hate the dollar I use dollar. You know I pay all my bills and the dollar. So this isn't a dollar hate fest this is. There's plenty of the people you know you got randy or you got rich. They'll sit there and I'll tell you how bad dollars stupid well that may be true. But it's all relative great L. dollars done pretty good for a lot of people right dollars screwed anybody over at a high level just long level of screw you over. So so you've timed out wake up in other words you know. They're not doing it tomorrow but inflation expenses but not your salary. True story you know and that. And that's that's that's another thing like Bitcoin as a deflationary concept perfect man what if they only made twenty one million dollars the US dollars ever think about that folks Tristan join me and I became the links above the comments but You know between people people like Baz view who. I've learned an attic. I talked about last night. Right bows or on the phone. He's given me inside. He's telling me that he's telling me he's perspective you know he's giving give me some hands on what he thinks he's GonNa be buying you know and I and I'm coming back. I'm telling them this you know and you know but that's a fun conversation to me to this day bright like if you don't love this space and look for that opportunity not to make money necessarily to be in front of the future. That's what blockchain's doing folks. That's what it's doing and it's really important to me that the space exists for my future for my child's future for your children's future. The blockchain is the path of freedom. We lose freedoms every day. Don't let any politician ever tell you. They're removing laws like. When's the last time that happened? Like even when they like decriminalize criminalize marijuana right there decriminalizing it. They're not just saying hey. This doesn't exist anymore. Like Yo we're GONNA make a law law that says you can no longer criminalized people for this what. Fu It's a plant meets your best always to my point. Twenty twenty has the recipe recipe to be incredibly successful. And I really am not telling you it's done going down but I don't care there. I will by five dollars every day. A bitcoin for the rest of my life. If I can if I can do one hundred I will and I regularly rebuy. bitcoin unfortunately not everything that I do in America accepts bitcoin. I do you pay my bill and Bitcoin by the way. But that's even stupid but I I make my living I. My means of of survival is from the blockchain at this point so unfortunately I have to utilize the value of the cryptocurrency known whereas bitcoin usually to to to suffice. Now I I do sell things from time to time on on Ebay or on craigslist. And you know make ends meet if you WANNA call it minus eighteen degrees Celsius A. What does that even mean Bro? I do Fahrenheit. That's like a not a nine hundred degrees below freezing to me. If a website with my crypto currency closets so what will happen to my crypto. It depends too good question. Seema is a wallet with recoverable keys. He's on another platform. You should be able to recover that if it's twenty token you know I mean if it's if it's actually stored award and a wallet that it's not accessible anywhere else Batman. I would need to know the details before I gave any opinions. What is a blockchain? All New and exciting tech innovations. It is often just a buzzword thrown around a define and market many different things that is not. We'll send them. The term blockchain really only describes chain of data is not Bitcoin Cryptocurrency a distributed ledger. Smart contracts or PCP network. What makes blockchain innovative? You've and beneficial is that structures data in a way that allows applications to easily verify the integrity of the data. He says that. But I haven't thought doc in the chain and turn and turn CR I. I like this comment. It completely exonerates from having to worry about what my face is doing. Just whatever but I got a secret weapon show up right now. He's in the lobby. David Robert Coming on. Hey before David comes on let me talk. Let me talk about this dude. Real quick this guy the best beard you know the coolest coolest hair in crypto the most awesome genuine nicest wife ever everything else. Kinda sucks all right all right just getting getting David you know I love you. Oh for sure. Oh did you see that back to the show. Show Bro Way too long man myself. It's man I'm telling you what I just did. I conditioned it today. Pillow beard oil and and man. It soft real soft Baz wanted to remind you that you got waxed. I've actually left that. They learned the few fund. You should be like the wax banners of me. She just like own it dude. At this point you saw it in our in our modern the mud chat. I mean I'll throughout Hashtag Bog Bald Eagle Day Bald Eagles checking in Bald Bald Eagle and that loving wife that I have had so much joy from that you did. You appreciate your introduction. I did I didn't. I'M NOT GONNA lie man. I've been in I've been in the cave. I haven't gone out much. I'm really really Pale. But as you said I've been digging through data and just building some mad science mad science stuff actually. Did you hear that. Ding by the way did to trades. Just one I love it and for those of you who are just brand new today would oh. You probably shouldn't be but if you are guy he's a in on the leadership of a company called sync. They're doing a lot of really awesome stuff with Trading data and and feel free to plug yourself here shortly. I don't want to speak for you or introduce you. It wrongly man go actually just go ahead and just just give it just giving overview quick dave kind of like recently transitioned to the position of of sync. I'm CO founder and the chief investment officer within Rica. Okay with my man within riquet and Enrico about everything else. EXCEPT CRYPTO in Crypto. Yeah I know I which I appreciate. I think he's yeah. Gee I tell you what Enrica doesn't agree with many people however his thoughts are well like there. Yeah Yeah he's he's definitely not as well and try to argue with them and like yeah anyways one of those really cool dudes. That like won't miss. If he knows he could. Just whoop your ass. He's humble enough. I'm not GONNA mess today. I'm not going to get pregnant. I look at thank you and I like. I've seen it happen. I mean I've seen you back off for conversations scared boy I'm just kidding. Now but entre we take a rick as the mad science scientists and taking sentiment data and unlike unlike other places that you know count tweets or whatever They what we we do is take it. We take the data we take the sentiment. And then we correlate market action. So it's not what was said. It's not who said it but what happened after and we've taken that and for the past probably two and a half months I've created my end is creating automated trade strategy. Based off of this relational data the state gives us projections price. Rejections on where. The market's going. What price vice? How long and we've got three Stroz hold on before you Adam wants to know David where or how do you source your data everywhere everywhere? Any Public Forum reddit twitter Any Public Forum where it's publicly available. We do not buy data anywhere a seem. Oh by the way Mohammed. I'm just GONNA call you C mo because it's a coup who asked name so seem I was your name from here it just because it's so much easier for me to say but C mo says. Hi David what up CMO Tim Pace. The Genius says he's Seventy K.. How do you feel about that? Who by Bald Eagle Ballsy No I don't think that's ballsy. I actually think he's. He's playing it safe there or maybe bring risking missing out on a nice move up man. I don't WanNa be Debbie Downer. But I guess I'll note speak. Oh you look like we've had enough discussions David. I'M GONNA disagree with you if you think it's going to go down only because I'm looking at the five year period so it it depends on timeframes and so forth exactly overall. We're going up one hundred percent. Sure I shouldn't say our percent ninety nine point yeah. We wouldn't be here if we didn't think that there was something happen. Yeah so I think I mean kind of like big picture thing when we saw that you know that big move down and we saw six K sixty eight hundred that really strong area. I was tracking multiple people. Making huge cash buys but but also some pretty big cells at thought that possibly could be a form of distribution and then we went lower bounce back up and I think were an an accumulation rain right now. Here's a little low pro tip. I've got an average of sixty eight fifty by a long from. That's where I'm on from. Yeah now we could have some and pumps up till some pumps in front of there but nothing too crazy. Kim assisted by the way all right. So so let's let's just let's just back off and let's let's look big picture real quick shirt when you see this chart and I'll be the first one that had met. This looks like a descending triangle where it's a it's so it's a it's a bullish at the end of the triangle but farish and the the in the in the way that it's going to move right. Yeah so you know we can see that it went up really high and that is two years ago right you. Can you see my mouth. I don't know if that shows up on the screen. I don't cite your mouth. No but I all right where it goes. Okay well obviously we experience this. We not only see where it went up and we were there. We all just got super rich and we were GONNA be millionaires. There's in you know forever and it was Never GonNa Change and then obviously That's a steep decline as as almost as steep incline that we had We we saw it drop We've seen recovery. We've seen dips we've come back up. Come back down you know right around that What was it early? Twenty nineteen mark is is the Bald Eagle stage and Almost a cup and handle and it's just continued to go up. We had a nice run almost a fourteen. But you look at this and you got to say if we don't make a move who've quick than we are in a descending triangle it is bearish until it isn't and And the trendline. Although we could definitely still go play with ten eleven thousand thousand hours easily tomorrow you know. Just based off of of of charts more likely. We have a an a redress of a bottom of four thousand dollars. There's a very good chance that that can happen. That's a realistically speaking now. I don't believe that I do honestly believe that. We're on that I end because if hold on I'm going to pull us up. Give me one second long time ago a long time ago this chart right here looked a lot bigger and this is something people people forget is this is not relative to Actually what it was doing you know I remember you know not this price to twenty six but I do remember seeing Bitcoin two hundred and I do remember seeing Bitcoin at one thousand here and then You know playing with that and going up and down and touching it and I remember when I bought Bitcoin Thousand Dollars David that it went down to not this price. This is I. I think I was November of two thousand thirteen. So let's find it. That's my buying right here. That's actually me right there. The yeah that was me And of course I probably got some horrible price because I bought it in. Pay Pal the guy money. Not only did I pay their fees but this guy probably gave me whatever pricey decided Ziming. Bitcoin hey coin right so I probably paid closer to like like twelve hundred like the most expensive bitcoin ever by the way. Probably I wouldn't be surprised but then you know it wasn't it wasn't always great after that we quickly you know retested a bottom and my. It's not really doing what I wanted to because the timeframes on properly happily but anyways the point I'm making here is this. Is that what I think what happened. Sometimes does oftentimes doesn't kind of cornered that market a a little bit in what you experienced and what you've told me and I would love to know what your thoughts are on a big scale right on the big time frames and then also you. You know what what what what people should be expecting. You know on a short term so in other words should I buy or sell right now it depends on it depends on anybody. Let's just clarify. I'm not giving any financial advice or anything like that. Just thought wine negative negative give I guess before we can. We have a drink and we opinion. Quick you can't give you take a drink of Tito's I'll we'll have one. I'm GonNa pour one right now. Go ahead go It's kind of you know it depends on the picture in in what you're doing if you're just buying like ten twenty bucks here and there a Bitcoin you're not gonNa try to you know use it and it's just a little trading yeah not trading. Just if you're truly investing you know just going to buy little bits throw some away. I see what happens. there's any times a good time to buy right now later if you're just doing a twenty bucks every month whatever. It's not a bad time and hold on before you go any further. I think it's a very very big deal. What you said? There's a relativity t- to what your goals are folks if you're stepping into this saying I'm GonNa Buy Twenty five thousand dollars. It's all of my i. Ah My life savings and I'm going into bitcoin well first off. That's the dumbest Shit. Me and David would agree on this. That we've ever heard in a pretty should be diversified. You you should be safe and you should be putting yourself position to not lose money on multiple ways and if some of them work out and they should if you're smart and if you wonder lessons you know you should should. You should do. Okay you know People WanNa speculate all the time because they want to get rich fair enough but relative time periods. Are you talking twenty years folks. Are you talking twenty days. Are you talking twenty minutes which is honest time. Period and Crypto is not David Up Dude and twenty minutes and and you can live and dial twenty minutes. I've seen people make a hundred thousand and lose two hundred and twenty minutes and David. I'm GonNa let you actually have the screen in for a minute myself. I need you to handle this for me. Okay actually got to take a phone call. That is really important family matter so let me do that but I will be right back on Twenty seconds sure sure. Sure well welcome to my show. Everybody cycads show any who Look at this chart and understanding understanding the fundamentals and the things that are kind of playing behind the scene I think personally that this this range range that we're playing anywhere from here to all the way down to like fifty nine hundred fifty eight hundred. BTC If you go back you can see. I can't see the dates aids but we're we're really tracking this Around the fifty eight hundred the backup to That sixty now ten ten a little bit over comeback down. I was watching some like really big injections come in And then very large cell of cells come through and we're just talking trade volume so I took at as a distribution period where others a lot of people have accumulated probably cumulated for the past. You know however many years year maybe they're mining. They just wanted to liquidate. They saw the writing on the wall. They've been through this market cycle before where You know we've seen a thousand dollars than we've seen two hundred bucks. So I saw that area that time as a distribution period coming through a pretty big dip and now we're kind of coming back to six K. area. I think it's going into former support. Fifty eight hundred six K.. As where kind end of like I'm if I go along and we dip a little bit below I'm not thinking we're going to go all the way back down to touch that three K.. Again I'm not willing to bet any hair on it but I it's just kind of what are what I'm seeing right now So really I'm kind of happy with what we've done when we needed to come back after we broke through that six K.. Mark five point eight six gay once. We broke through that the first time we really needed to come back down and test it again former resistance turns to support efforts been tested and hold so with that being said you know I'm okay with where it is. Ta Judo's painting a pretty picture that that could say. I'm wrong but you never know it's it's GonNa be interesting. We're at a very interesting point right now where you know. This is where if I had not witnessed the actual horrible pain in your eyes. During the accident I would be waxing. Betting you again but You you you paid your you paid your dues for everybody that day a Including me I could just as easily. I will openly admit that I I was basing my my observations off of public sentiment and that conventionally had to be a move up right And you're basing off of Off of similar concepts and there was a lot of negativity in the market. Don't get me wrong A in Bassett. I just bought some. Tito's cheers brother. Ask but you could just I mean. I'm not saying that this is going to happen. I mean unlike I pointed this out for a reason and I drew that those those Those trend lines you know which are the most basic turn lines. And they're not even right. I I mean this is a pretty big time period coupon off. Yeah this long form but this could easily and hopefully it would it would sustain you know in bounce off a forty four four hundred if we felt all the way today but every day that we move forward it gets a little higher in rural higher that bottom should at least breast too right but also the the ceiling gets lower or lower but when I see the ceiling get lower. You know the means. It's easier to break it. It is with me. So I'm how do I put this. I respect Ta and I respect certain technical indicators for this market specifically crypto currency given given how emotional the vast majority of players are how the the unregulated nature of it tends to bring out more motion and more fall mo and so forth so though ta I will say Ta. There are certain that I use on a daily basis under certain indicators. I don't use news but there is something to be said about it because if everybody believes it it's true regarding exactly you know so. Yeah I I I like it and I what I worry though is so I'm kind of not necessarily tinfoil hat theory but we're all familiar with bit fanatics and the USD tea or tether there and everything that's going on in the news and so forth so I would. I would pose this question. Joe That that top of the the very very top when you and I were dancing drinking and dancing at nine hundred million bro. We're we're going to have to worry about money again. Yes is up here by the way. I'm like shaking this this dotted line okay. That's not that's not how we feel today right us to how we felt good all right. Yeah and then we visited this Eh. Oh man those are some also to. They made us tough. Who still standing though? I mean that that comeback all the way down to three K.. If you're standing after that I mean you know. Where's where's where's all these influencers Stilo Pez whereas these guys who were super big and encrypt oh they've moved onto different industries. I don't know where you know. So we're still here shows one we said something onto we've endured kind of are somewhat smart if we've endured or nineteen all the way back down. But what if I told you that. Nineteen seven area one thousand nine hundred eighty. What if I told you that wasn't true through but if I told you that because of potentially allegedly manipulation and if you're talking about maybe like here that that seems more normal right that's even or even here I atla but what does this eight thousand here? I look November November October. Okay this is this is the thirty first. I about two thousand seventeen right here. Seven seventy six hundred bucks right. Thanksgiving was like right here. Sixty eight sixty nine. Okay all right. Let's give maybe not thanksgiving Let's talk over anyways. So November happens thanksgiving issue time two thousand seventeen. I remember this vividly right and like a a matter of a few days. We were here right so agreed. I love this concept okay. So I'm just I'm just I'm just visualizing what happened happened okay. So what would you say did happen then in this in this magic world I mean if if I were to say true money dollars to doughnuts we went through a very parabolic very trend this first times we first times we saw CNN Fox. I mean news agencies talking about Bitcoin out your know your sports guys Barstool Sports. You got pres- talking by you know so I you know I'm thinking. Hey maybe maybe maybe fourteen k maybe fourteen was really at maybe twelve to fourteen area so you would say okay. I don't disagree with you so fourteen. Eighteen Foam Oh and that was still a photo. But that's a natural from all right. That's a big fall mo but given Bella make a lot more sense where we're at them given all the other all the other external factors may news coverage I mean everywhere. All you heard about was bitcoin. I'm in a small town in the Midwest best and I've got. Am guys on the radio. Who who have trouble turning other computer talking about bitcoin? What is crypto currency? And what is this blockchain South Yup Yup that payback movement though unnatural unsustainable. If you will I think that was real. I think the the little bit of the juice on top top. There's something funny going on. Well you know I mean it's a free market. It's people can do what they want and it's not technically manipulation really isn't it could be whatever I WANNA do if I want to talk to my friend about it if I want to do whatever. There is no rules. Okay now now. Is that right or wrong. Obviously in the stock market. That's very wrong. You know who made those roles people who don't have any information right. They're the ones. Yeah I'm not signing into a mono- hold on a second. I'm surprised you not night mode by the way if I was actually signed in in time order to place you know what I mean. Actually close these charts up but yeah you're absolutely right though about it. Being a free market not regulated. I mean and proof. It is in the fact that there was a point in time where I specifically called out a couple of different people. Who I- alleged did some things that were or little uncouth if you will? Maybe a little their morality issues however I never accused them of anything illegal so when they tried to sue me for slander. They couldn't because I it really wasn't slanderous what I said. I don't know about this by the way I don't because I will. I've always got your back first and foremost and let let somebody make an enemy of CCT right. That's the last place you ever want to not be like. I mean if you want me to talk awesome smack which got I mean we've all you just looked at something I didn't have clothes on and as close on. Okay okay all right. I thought maybe your wife showed up and she was like time to get off. No No. You're a baby making machine bro. I mean there's there's very few things in life I do well making big beautiful. Babies is definitely one of them so unfortunately and for everybody else sorgess mark off the mark. Yes yes you know it must be real. Let's be real. It's your wife. That should be like. I'm sorry. I'm off the market and you should be thanking everybody being all the market. Was it real. Tell I may make sure she knows. I gave her a shout as as the as the introduction when I broke when when we went live. I don't know if you're watching but joe gave you a very amazing shout in the morning and the threat her know that Ed thought you were talking. I was GonNa talk about you and I was actually talking about. How awesome she is? You can tell her that off camera. It's Ok your manhood again by all right. Look we can win this down. Let's let's let let's get this last. I I really appreciate your Your perspective David and you know how much respect for you as just a a person but as someone who's doing something for the space the better it is selfish selflessly as possible. I mean you've been doing this cyncially you know for for the hope that this works out one day right and and I'm very very grateful and and obviously you have a beautiful family beautiful child beautiful children But you got a life to look out for but you still believe in this enough right where you're GonNa be huge idiots because I'm in the same position by the way we're going to be the biggest baddest genius as ever in I and our kids are. The air is super gross. Right but I mean you and I both walked away from good careers. I mean you were in what your oil asks right here. I guess I had family trucking business real estate gambling all the fun stuff you know and if it was if it was not for my wife and this. This is all sincerity. Now she was on pushed me to be happy rather than to change. I remember the phone when you called me and told me that. Yeah and that was it. I had been in struggling year year over year day in day out studying reading charting learning while working and and finally she was just like I want. It'd be happy so do what you gotta do. I was about to say God is good and he is. Don't get me wrong but are we really happy. Shit struggle we'll have our lives what makes us Yeah it sucks that I haven't. I've got a paycheck in about two years Brooke breath breath purchase at preach. But but what we're here about and what we're doing is every indicator that we can look at news technology technology Amazon. Pay Pal look at what coin base just did where you care. Brian Armstrong just patented away a to e mail bitcoin with in an email I mean. That's that's something that grandma can use. That's something that can touch anybody. I I am getting some love respect for your wife. David see my house a question. And what effect quantum computing bitcoin. That's a question for Asheville. Oh I'm not gonNA touch it. NOPE nope because whatever you say Joe or whatever I say you know demon wrong is what you could have done this. You should the actual asphalt. I look I will ask her myself for you. CMO And I will personally send you the DM with a response about that just DNA and remind me all right David Final thoughts where we are we. Are we I know long term. I know that you're bull short-term you tend to be a bear which which has proven to be more profitable than being abol minus. The ten days at Fred Krueger was talking about Yup Margai Frederick giants I love that Dude. I think if you're here now and this is your first time take advantage and learn. Don't listen to me thrill. Don't don't listen to me. Read on your own if anybody is a true testament to what you can do if you put your mind and and truly your efforts you actually try look tempests and then you and you said it earlier. I sent him a message. I don't know how long ago was like Tim. I don't care you're what anybody else says what you are doing. The exact path Joe took exact path. I took Yup you yourself there you tried. You kept doing it anybody can. It's all amount of effort. They put in. So if you hear now your first time put forth effort You'll get ten x out of it if you put it in real effort. And if I don't mean to interrupt my like I did hear you say to the D. or something when I had to take a phone call. I which I thought was funny. I just said Suck Joe. I didn't say Joe that's right. That's right that's right. Oh really implying. Come on what he told me to suck. Man I got I got okay. You got kiddos around. You know what that's the only time period in your life that you can get away with that the funny I'm GonNa give it to you all right fight. You know actually inviting Sean. Hold on let me. I want her to come in an accident if I hopefully I suppose right had had to Tito's now so I will take notes when ask speaks about. Technology is specifically a quantum computing. And so forth. I take outs can have if I'm not sure kill you. Yeah mashed isn't a and ash is not a human. She is part of the Matrix and she might even be connected to the Almighty mighty in some in some capacity. All right that being said hopefully she missed that Because that was not a compliment. That was a that was fearful statement. It it is the mother of Crypto. Everybody as role said. There's a question. Oh you got to fix your audio Asmat. Actually turn off the facebook close tab might even be connected to the Almighty in some Ash. You've got to close the TAB. What tab all right okay ash? We have a question for you from CEO Might Phone Computer Cmo. Did I say relatively close my close Muhammed Lemani oppy. I can't pronounce. That's for sure I got it. I handled it. Let me we know how bad a mess it. Okay ashes all yours. I have to answer that. That's yes that's why you're on here. Oh we weren't gonNA touch it. No Oh you literally because we knew the ash would let us know how stupid we are. Afterwards so quantum computing doesn't necessarily we have any affect on bitcoin. It has an effect on encryption. And I know that's kind of semantics but the encryption then that bitcoin uses can be upgraded so to say that it's automatically in the have an effect on Bitcoin isn't exactly accurate. We've we've already seen upgrades to the address types Over the past ten years as about account how many years it's been since Bitcoin launch and ten. So I know we're we're literally coming up on eleven January third. Yep Yep God odd Ashley over to our ask keeps her birthday by the amount of years. Here's the bitcoins been around. Both of you are older than me. Oh I know but it's so funny because you you're the mother of Crypto. You're you're almost grandmother. CRYPTO is coming up. I still don't know if you're a real good with four K.. Looks a little bit weird background background like you can tell that. That's not even what she looks like. She's GonNa beat her ass. I know I'm just doing this because she she will. She will not say certain things on a live stream but she will definitely let me know shortly afterwards but but I get a moment of I got I win one. He thinks he does sweating over. Here I'm not lying why I'm actually having the best time of my life today Rolston the private keys in in public keys so the biggest fear is that private keys. We'll be able to be gotten from public keys without you know generating the private key and then would they be able to do that though. Like what is the actual basically reversing. The process does are so powerful and smart they can just figure it out well. Quantum computing allows. What's called superposition? which is kind of like the Schrodinger of problem solving? So if you have zero and wine as a bit in traditional computing everything is either zero or one. It's is true or false either exists or doesn't exist while in quantum computing both euro one. He's a simultaneously it's called Super Position Chen and that's why quantum bits are different so it would not only can it be zero or one it can be any value between zero and one which allows a much shmuel complex calculation set but also with quantum computer can repeat that. I'm taking notes quantum computer. Why do I sign up for live with both of you already know amador good one? This is the good son. So the there's something called Grover rover operators which let's say you have one hundred possible answers that could be the answer Grover operator can reduce that by thirty percents. So now you only have seventy possible and then it reduces it by another thirty percent and let's minus twenty one so forty nine possible and you reduce it by by another thirty percent. You know each time you run these different calculations on it reduces the possible possibilities by a big chunk instead of going okay. Let's try this. Let's let's try this. Let's try that so traditional computer to break something like a bitcoin. Private key would take billions of years. Okay we're like hundreds of millions but whatever not a reasonable amount of time and when you look at quantum computing. That's the risk for it is. Is that okay so for you. They finished that statement. Like what's weird to me is like we're jumping like we're like going from. I'm driving a car to going light. Speed and space. That's the difference between quantum computing and and regular competing. I think it's a regular joe way of explaining Nash. You don't have to actually do the math and tell me how wrong I am. Okay but you know when you think about it. What's inbetween that? Why isn't there something? Why aren't we trying to progress slower? Like what the F. is going on. Well the thing is is that we have. We have done stuff. That is slower If you look at Computing Circa Nineteen Fifty Fifty S. You know if you look at everything that's happened since then. Can you like imagine taking the Internet back to the nineteen fifties is I can. I can actually give a real world. Example of my grandfather worked in our Case Western University St Engineering and online school heads. No he worked on a computer cuter that gave you digital outputs by papers holes in them and lights flashing on a wall. That computer encompassed compass three stories of a full building and because there was like a higher a little bit higher magnesium concentrate in the area. All of the computer guys lost eyebrows because of breathing in the museum. And we're talking you know that was. He said what he could do now or and I just had this conversation with them not even a couple months ago but he was basically saying he saw the beginning of what computing was. He said. There's nothing you can really compare that to aside from a pencil and a piece of paper to where it now well and you know. It's not just that but there's an example that I always like the computer that launched the M- Mars mich- or not the Mars mission Jesus Demand mm-hmm and the Moon mission. Yeah now going to Mars. We are the Apollo mission. There you know the the computer that that launch those our phones have more more processing power more everything than these computers that launched Moon Moon missions debt. And yes daddy. If you're going to go after money why not go after the banks and actually there's a lot of people people that are without quantum computing. Certainly if you're if you're smart enough to handle a quantum computer you're not trying to screw over bitcoin. You're already part of the Matrix. Bitcoin in your probably Ashtros and probably has a couple quantum computers asks. Have you tried to build. One be honest is that now you can build one but the build one over here just one conduct. Actually she looked into it. I have ears ball seriously dave. Nash Aren't that far away from each other. Like y'all could I mean you can because we're supposed to meet in the middle which is Chicago and guess what she'll leave ever heart forget. The tightness is in Chicago and I was like oh I forgot to tell you that you don't whatever vegas then. I left her breath. I wish I could have been there. Well I was there at Ashley. Okay Lennon Vegas. I don't know if I'm going to see you or not because I just don't feel like it. I was like what doesn't make sense. I'm not that meet. I didn't say it like that. First off I just made you sound nice and and there are a lot of people who you have blocked. That would completely disagree with you. Gave you shut out of the Game Amos show anyways all right. Look I think it's been a very informational fun and exciting show Ash. Thank you for joining us as always your interpretation of the world and blockchain itself is is always a pleasure to hear Q.. Is Awesome Inga. I like playing a look like she's a local. She lives near me. This awesome bad ass finger is is developing IBM near the Baton Rouge area not to put her business editor at that out of the actual podcast. You've I think I think we need to do this again here pretty soon but I think I needed shrank. I didn't know remember you had to go and I was here and I was you know. Yeah I gotTA call you up any last words quite I bother signing up in both star Trek Art Star Wars. There's a right answer. What is it ashish? It'd better be the right one star trek girl flight. What why aren't you if you believe such weren't you actually at the movie right now because it's been bastardized but that's a whole different story? Boy I mean you can't even go into that and actually enjoyed at this point like everybody's told you it's horrible so by the way I've heard that for the last six episodes and I've enjoyed every one of them for the record so it's Kinda like one of those things where if you're a purist versus arrest stopping we asked another topic. Sure all will get rid of your beard. Gail goal way. He's it is beautiful I will. I will admit I did have about a half inch taken off of it Just my ends were little but But it's looking good. Now tell but the way for those for those who have heard me drop dropped it once When it will go oh away but it it? It's it'll go away when the time is right. I have a goal is set. Did this as a form of civil disobedience to the people people who said you have to be clean cut where suits look a certain way to to be somebody to pump bump bump bump exactly bound on the name of out. Well you know. I've just growing up here. The name of two who is they were hoping. Beer DOT COM uh-huh. That's good back. Then they didn't love him now he's hot they all on him But right ash no. It's what you did. You see Brooke's comments on his feared she loves it she doesn't she says that legacy just coming she no Tartu no no no. I'M EXCITING PORNO OUT ENOUGH ASTEROID. Who something he you know he's going to disagree with? There is nothing nothing there is not enough money for me to be waxed again. There is face no I mean I. It's a it's a little. This is a sensitive area. I didn't shave wax them. Face on the Bald Eagle after the Bald Eagle. Your boy ain't even getting his eyebrows waxed for all right. This is getting out of hand all right. Let's let's let's let's close it out all right. Thank you for. I think star Trek. It's it's I completely agree and it is the future of humanity. David you can continue living in a galaxy far far away and until next time bitcoin radio go ahead David Ebitda any Any anything else you WANNA say Working People find yet your question. Can you hear and see. C. T. Cinco. Yeah that thing dot tech and you can you can find me in the crypto verse Sometimes I popped my head up. I'm going to be I'm GONNA be around. Mark Dow Jo- never on twitter though. Hey did you see as professor I did I okay. I share. Didn't think it was real. I honestly did not think it was real. They shared it on purpose. I know I know. And it's my only way of trolling without being wrong. Like she can't say anything because I'm just being in front and I said follow her like people need to know who she is. I gained like one hundred fifty followers since then to David David underscore. How would have been more Eric? So you block the other two thousand people that would have David underscore that wall willow you here. We are going to have to broke his standing with two waxing strips. Hands Right now the brook him. You're right now. Let tell her I wanna see the Rook Joe to see right now. Hey Brock he said he said Hi God man you you just made me the happiest man on earth here. You just made me the happiest man on earth. I had flashbacks to the best day of my my life. It was pretty amazing wasn't it. Oh man we we enjoyed it. It was like how he was not trying to curse. Because Theo's like odd maker of great babies and dealer with David. I appreciate you always and just I just know this you are. She's like used to it. Dave like you can't hurt. I know it's seriously scared. Brooke lampey girl all right Ash. Steinbruck David Sign Assault Man. Sign US off. You can hear me sign us off. Tell me what's up. Say Goodbye say goodbye. Everybody lives everybody. BTC He's having trauma flashbacks. Right now. I don't know what just happened. All right gets even more out of hand. I mean we've had a great show. Thank you for joining us. Dave as always a pleasure man into everybody else looking looking around you. You're looking at people who are doing things in this diverse. It is our job. Take care of it. I look around. I surround myself with people who are doing. Awesome things for it. Why aren't you until next time on W._D._C.? Where bitcoin lives? We'll see you soon.
eps.049 - LIVE - IS BITCOIN DEAD!?
"What's up cream Radio Ismat Joe Blackburn? Joined with me is are the managers. Can't Paulie what's going on Jim. Oh my goodness what a week. The game boys pack it up. Qurna go home bitcoins done see Aleida a `love' `love' Jim. Great great great use of that awesome system. You've got back over there well what's up. WBZ Say thanks Jim for that. Awesome intro in that that welcome. Obviously obviously bitcoins. Could've been a little bit steadier. Seventy one hundred seventy one fifty. I feel like if we stay at this price for pretty bullish actually moving up at some point. Of course it's opinion. I'm always bullish Polish. Shut up jam. I don't WanNa hear all that Jim shaking his head for those less. Now I've been reading. I've been reading the facebook posts. I've been reading a a game over dude back it up. bitcoins done bitcoins bitcoins. Dead and buried my dude. I did hear some things but we'll get into that here shortly as people may notice here for the Thanksgiving. I'm at my folks house. I'm borrowing my dad's office. I'm sitting here trying to make Internet connection work down here in the state of Alabama Obama and Jim. I know you're back home in your typical Jimmy Fallon Studio so As this holiday we can get caught up you know and we get there on Thursday and happy could drive the be respectful. Losing me. Now I get you back your back. Yeah be respectful and have a safe holiday. I mean this is a holiday for the the. US folks we're talking worldwide. But I mean in the stop and take a second to just think about what. They're thankful for the United States and for me. That's how foolish I am on Bitcoin and Jim's got all these really crazy ideas because old new Jim. Oh there's been scouring Internet finding everything he can about. bitcoin is going down to two thousand hours. So tell me what you've learned. Yeah Oh yeah you know what I did see. Some people. Saint Two thousand a lot of people were saying thirty five hundred and then it'll bounce awesome. Then it'll die like it's GonNa Bounce just die again But yeah you know what two thousand and I feel like that could be too because the price is going down pack it up. BITCOINS joins over game over man. It was fun while lasted. Or you know Y- Gem I the thing is I understand and I appreciate the way. I don't think Jim actually feels feels that way. People were gonNA pretend like he does tonight. I don't think that's actually the case. But I love his ability to be the devil's advocate here. And we're GONNA have a slight discussion about this. You know your your thanksgiving. You seem bitcoin go down. Guess what twenty seventeen. We had an awesome Thanksgiving everybody but that twenty seventeen. The price was just about where it is today. Jim and that's what's funny. Is what a difference that feeling is because we were coming from the bottom of what we consider a low but it was really a high at that point which was at twelve fourteen. Fifteen twenty five hundred three thousand five thousand or runs next thing. You know November twenty seventeen Jim. Guess what. We're at six thousand bucks. Well guess what two years later. We're at six seven thousand bucks. Guess what last year I I think what we were around six or seven thousand bucks. You know I mean it's it's been pretty consistent how this the November's have been around this price regardless list of which sit at what sediment you feel. It's been steady at this price. Isn't that interesting. Yeah Yeah I mean I have heard the other side of it is people say it's just the holiday holiday sale. It's just bitcoin. Though the Black Friday came early for bitcoin still just slashing prices. So you can get in on it now. Is there like you mentioned you know Thanksgiving you know we're we're. We're on the cusp here. Now for the people that do go home for Thanksgiving and you you try to talk to your family about crypto. Now if they get a little wind of this you have to try to explain yourself now with this. I guess the Fund is the right word shirt regularly yet. No I think it's a great question especially because you know. We have bitcoin for Christmas right. So mouse felt myself. Jim Josh Donaldson View. Others Ashley Meredith. Obviously in all the great work with mouse vogue is the developers. You know we really All pitched in our thoughts ideas we put together all these things to be able to have this conversation with folks and although it says Bitcoin for Christmas I mean it's irrelevant with the holiday is or whether it's a holiday or not. It's just a place to go and be able to have resources that allow you to not only see. Hey this is a way to to be able to Explain certain information but the guide allow others to figure it out for themselves. which I think's really special? It's important that we recognize that. This is hard to understand. It's a concept that people we are ready probably have a generic idea about and if they had thought really highly of it already began. So everybody you're talking to hasn't bought end right folks so that that population that people that have not bought in they they need to be spoken to and you don't have to fight with them to get your point across right if you start arguing you're going to be like oh big ones right and there'd be like bitcoins wrong just because people just argue they all have this idea that we're all on the Internet still and at and a little bit of money instead of flavor you're GonNa get a recipe for disaster so handling yourself properly really important Jim to to your point here. I think it's very important time for people to get caught up refresh on the basics of bitcoin. Why does it matter? How does it work? What is the expectations? And what was Sushi's original intentions. What we're his? What was the reasons why he was doing this? And if you think back people if you go back to two thousand eight in there in the financial crisis does it surprise you. That two thousand nine you know the to- she's worked began and then by two thousand ten January two thousand ten. You know we were really up and going going in two thousand nine. We're up going January. And then she did. We made our our first one year anniversary of a a working product. That's why we are here today right so think about that not. Bitcoin was literally born from that moment in time that financial crisis whoever they are that person he or she or non binary as as Actually likes to remind me It it's irrelevant. Who Said Oh she is I just know this? They saw that there was a problem. They fix it they say. Here's a solution rather than complained rather than vote for this person that person who has done nothing they just fixed it and we're used but yeah but that's kind of my thing though. Is that the monkey wrench into the idea of Bitcoin for Christmas. Because does it make it a tougher sell right now because even people in the community acts acts like it's dead and I understand that just because the highs and lows of you know watching the charts and all that but it's almost harder to talk about now when you have it's like you have more of a barrier to go up against the try to explain someone not in the space because if you tell them about bitcoin and then they google it and they see we all these articles that are about how bitcoin going down the you know how do you do. You have tips to overcome that or just kind of focused more on the other positives positives behind something like rather than the pricing yet. Though I mean obviously as we all know don't want to get shot Josh Danielson good to see you man. Tim Pace AC- the Andrews on there. I was just arguing. We I think we were kind of arguing about Tesla but we really we weren't. We're kind of saying the same thing so good to see you as always ap but look the barriers the expectations of a conversation. How to to to get in how to how the new words it comes down to this gym Jim and this is my honest opinion? Is that you can't force this concept on people now for Bitcoin for Christmas. If we're smart what we're doing is buying five or ten dollars for our friends and family and giving that away. Bitcoin for Christmas is my in my opinion. It stands for me giving you Jim or getting my brothers or somebody. Bitcoin and there is no better way of getting through somebody then saying here. Here's some bitcoin for free. Even if it's just five bucks right yes everybody not not not. Everybody's able to incapable of doing that. I get it. I'm not in your to pass judgment or say say one thing or the next I can at least portray this image though in that as a magic. Everybody in crypto giving a little bit of Bitcoin and how how many people are going to have them start paying attention to what bitcoins doing and if they start seeing maybe it's going up maybe it's going down. Maybe they're starting to to put into perspective. How this thing works? Maybe they're trying to send it to their new bitcoin wallet because they wanted to add some more. Maybe they're now able to explain to somebody. Hey I got bitcoin and it becomes popular. Hey look someone gave it. I've got it actually. I think it's up a little bit. Like five like fifty cents. They only give me two dollars. But you know that's that's the beauty of this whole thing is that it's it's it's always been you know peer to peer even marketing right. There's nobody marketing Bitcoin Actually I take that back If you haven't heard or seen it yet folks you're going to see a very soon. And that is the white furred Verte. Football Club from the Premier League is Bitcoin on their sleeve. You know and I mean. Think about that. If you're in the premier league every time someone from that team scores and they raised their hand and excitement. You're going to see big went on that shoulder. A Little Birdie told me you can get more information about that on Friday show by the way. Oh Nice be on the look out. So yes and of course. I just interviewed them as Jim. The the One of the producers and editors the entire show. WHO's listening to every single word probably more than me You know he's he so kindly let us know that. That's the Friday show so be excited about that folks. 'cause it's GONNA be exciting. Hey Do you think that's a decent understand like that's the way I portray it to answer your question like what do you think Jim. Is that good enough in your opinion. Yeah I think so and I guess it's just the tough thing like putting it in those terms though is if you give like I'm just thinking more from the I guess quote normally perspective affective because I i. I'm not quite enormous. I'm still a little new to the space but I'm not enormous me. I'm thinking some that only knows of bitcoin because they see the headlines and they vaguely no. It's a thing the tough sell. I feel like especially right now with with the price. The price is always going to be volatile. But like with more on a downtrend. Downtrend is if you give someone for Christmas like Hey. Here's fifty bucks in Bitcoin. And then they look at it the next day and it's like thirty Bucks Bitcoin to them they're like This is weird weird and does that like immediately turn them off or you just have to really just keep pitching the other side of it and rather than the pricing well. Well there's two sides of this number one. You should know their address if you sit the Bitcoin so you can keep adding to it. Like a dog barks right like I mean. They'll never see a fall right like if he really needed to address that but yes to your point. It's a very serious one and I agree like if they just see constantly falling. which is what happened to a lot of people including myself? I gave it to my father in law take. My brother-in-law gave it to you. My friends family and they saw it go down and they mentioned that to me several times. And it's not unwarranted. Right it you know I put Michael Sausage a post op or is comment. I think it's really relevant. He said would be safe to say that. People's general perception is that it's not a future of currency but rather a specula- speculative asset and I say that's absolutely what it is right now. I mean that's the perception isn't perception's reality if you're looking to grow something and so whether you're a celebrity TV host and you're trying to get the next big GIG or your musician and everybody thinks you've music sucks when I was gonNA play or no one's GonNa hire you know who's GonNa Bring you about. No one's GonNa buy or use you. If they think you're speculative assets keeps going down so great point Mike on whether she wrote that But you know I look at this like I have never had a problem at least explaining the basics and what bitcoin able to do gyp right and we've conversation numerous accounts like you came in here a little bit. I don't WanNA say risk is you're pretty level headed dude but you know you came into a new space as someone who I you know we. We talked about you coming on the show because I know how entertaining engaging in what's we unleash you to this crowds this group. You're going to be a a national treasure. Is your to bitcoin space right. You're just really exciting. Jimmy Fallon style. I appreciate so much you know. Now you hyper me up over here thank you. I also compared you Jimmy Fallon which I hate so you breed 'em all yourself. He's literally right there fair enough. We talked about this every time about the finish statement up. It's this it's that. Is bitcoin spectacle of it is. It's absolutely speculative speculative even if you don't want it to be speculative too bad. Had your speculating. That is going to go up. At some point you know and you know so because it is what it is and because it's it's that in that area once it becomes was non speculative it becomes a very stable asset. And you know let's be real people the fact that is volatile even when it's negatively volatile and when it's going down it's still leaves these hope that it's GonNa be volatile back up right. So that's we gotta take the good with bad because it can go down also allows it to go up. Yeah yeah like Tim Pace Ace in the chat whether they look at it and at seventy five. That's a great point because that gets people even more excited and I'm glad you brought up giving it to your family members in the path and I mean I'm sure you're known amongst your family as the Crypto Guy. Because you are the Crypto Guy Your your your Maine Man Joe Blackburn. The cryptovest belongs all of us but especially especially blogs Joe Blackburn. But do you have those people you know people. There are a lot of people that talk about how they dread the political discussion or something coming when I get home but When they go home for the holidays do you have someone in your family? That's ready to like pounce on you every Thanksgiving or Christmas to be like ha ha. What's up with your bitcoin? Coin now bud or someone who has been like on you about it and how. It's like not a thing and all that shit see it's really interesting thing like I'm I am the person who does that to everybody else right. And I'm so versed in arguments in so composed in being able to articulate. I thought that nobody messes with me right. If they're going to talk about it they're going to do it behind my back which is fine. Because I'll find him anyways and I'll hear about it but I don't I really don't I don't have the fighters now. I do have friends that I'll see during like Thanksgiving break that they're like. Oh bitcoin didn't they fall from my twenty thousand and they just make jokes. But it's I don't really deal with that the hateful a lot of others do have to and so. I'm more concerned about that political discussion before. I am a bitcoin discussion but I also have a lot of people who support me and they also have seen what bitcoin because I wasn't talking about them about Bitcoin with them at twenty thousand. I was talking to bitcoin talking to them about bitcoin. When it was five six seven hundred right so get a little bit of credibility with between there between those those this price about mark's? Yeah Yeah and I guess the tie it all in it comes down until like you know. Never mind just the normies because again. I'm I'm basing it from a newer perspective and I see a lot. The people in the community get pretty down because the pricing which I understand you know people. It's an investment people have money and it's it's like a lot to ride on sometimes but it he feels like people get super negative or just Kinda shut down a bit and then I feel like so what are what are your tips to keep the fire alive so to speak in some of these not as exciting times so you know we have to change changed the discussion and Jim. That was a really good point. You just made to like the conversation has to be able to continue right. There has to be that moment where you as an individual you'll figure out these are. These are the points that really matter about bitcoin. And that's an ideological and political comment con. It's a political conversation and and I mean it's not a political in a way that Americans politics. It's just a complete change in the way that you want to be governed and how you're explaining that to somebody else. Why that's that's important to you so mixing that you know without being confrontational and shutting somebody off? It's very very delicate. And the moment you start talking about if you're talking about price you kinda remove all the politics right. If you're talking about ideology it come. It becomes a political comment. It becomes a political conversation ideological conversation and audio ideology and politics often. You know that's kind of the same thing right. You know. We find out real quickly where people stand when you start giving perspective on why you believe in something or why you want this candidate or something right and it is no different than when bitcoins doing. Because when you start talking about your your privacy people can relate to that people can understand. Oh shoot yeah part privacy. Oh look at what facebook did and they had to go to Congress and explain themselves look at Cambridge Analytica. Look at all these other things things that have huge effects on our life right now. How do we change that? How do we take hold of that in cryptocurrency blockchain bitcoin allow that concept of starts seeping in right and so to me? It's supporting a certain style of interacting with people that I don't want to interact with right. They're going to try to interact with me one way or the next whether it be a marketer whether it be a a hacker whether it be somebody how do I protect myself in the most ways possible and this is a very basic way explaining. I know ashes watching. She could probably say thousand things to me right now but how I'm saying it wrong but I like like to keep this really simple. When you're opening up the conversation it has to be number one interesting and number two if you're gonNA fight with them they're not gonNA walk away with a pleasant attitude? Yeah I mean I have. Jim was the last argument with something about something with somebody that you already kind of disagreed with or did really find as a relevant or even maybe even then a credible point and be like. Oh well we just had this huge argument argument not now. I completely understand rare. especially if you're getting into Internet argument demand like it's even it's going to be even worse absolutely so you know it's funny because we briefly talked about ripple just right before we went live but I'll bring ripple up if I if I talk about P with somebody who does not know anything about bitcoin or Crypto. They're always like Oh yeah but but extra ripple and that's something I'll well listen. This is something I'll listen to and it's so funny to me. I mean not. Because they they they don't understand the reasons why I may have certain prejudices against it or whatnot but you know they. Hey look at it. Even though it's had a very similar path than going up and then coming back down as Bitcoin heck the bitcoin is gone down less than go has from. Its all time high which was three dollars and you know like sixty cents or something and now. Today's like twenty five twenty eight twenty nine cents something along those lines and you know I bring rip or they bring up rebel to me and it's a very different conversation because they feel so much more safe about potentially what ripple might do for the whole world and it's simply because of the affiliation with what banks are doing right. It makes them feel safe. It's familiar familiar. It's those same things that that crypto struggles with because the US isn't great ripple is familiar. It's something that they could feel like they can relate to or it makes it a little bit of sense and it because it has a practical application from the minimum that they know about it minimal amount that they know about it but even though that has such a negative in horrible you know Price price differentiation from. It's all time high the price of this today it they don't they don't take into effect that the same things that they do for Bitcoin like they forgive ripple certain things which Chom fine with forgive him get him in let them learn about the space the ripple. That's fine by me because a lot of them will then take except like. Oh Wow I see what the space is doing. So I don't have a problem here. Expertise even lower than I thought. Twenty two cents right. That's what Tim says anyways but Sorry for the long Turner. That's completely fine and pardon my ignorance a and obviously you don't have to get to do it but what is it about ripple that defended more or that is more familiar. Is it just what what is is it. Just well let's let's back up a little bit ago ripple and Ex Arpey are technically not the same thing. Okay okay there's a difference the the the the ripple network ripple blockchain okay is is is different than what the X.. RPI token is right now. I will admit sometimes oftentimes when I'm transferring. A certain amount of of of anything of of any CRYPTO is consolidated in the ripple. And then I send it because is fast and I love being able to explain to people how fast ripple as I have no problem problem with the the use case ripple It it exists. There's there's something and it to me the only use case I found a ripple is literally you know. Sitting my tokens for point eight. The point be and then disseminating back into other other coins or wherever or caching something out of I need to but you know ripple I do I don't want to hate all on ripple and say everything. The thing about them is bad. But what makes people feel familiar and what they okay themselves with is that it has affiliation with banks that is built around around transfers for banks from bank to bank transactions at a large scale right and to me. That's a really strong and great great conversation opener and I hate to encourage ripple in any way but if that's the way that you have to have a conversation with somebody to at least have them take you seriously I think that's okay right now. I mean I go on and on about things I don't like about ripple I I definitely have issues as what crypto and blockchain and and Bitcoin are supposed to or what they were intended to be. But that is that's very quickly dissipating like the blockchain is for whatever use case you want to as long as it's legal right and I got no issues whatsoever with with people having a conversation about about report early on right. It's just important that you also mentioned why there's differences and that's that should be its own show. That's probably something I need to bring Ashworth back on so she can explain. She doesn't really well. So yeah you think X.. Surpise going to rise from the BTC ashes or what since BTC's dead. And all I have to have to remember that we're on camera here I would definitely Glenn not here lies. Bitcoin a good run saying years. Ten Years Right Patrick's gotTa kill you in the early beloved. We are gathered here today to lay the rest bitcoin. I want straight crypto currency that drops below seven thousand dollars dollars and everyone says the sky was falling anyways. Yeah that was just like wicca. Further record everybody. Jim was actually playing the organ there so ashes on strike affair enough Exactly ten they only want it because they think it will make them rich. Yeah and that's a good point. Here's the thing. Yeah I mean if you get something twenty a sensor whatever yeah there's a lot of potential upside I suppose I- ripple has a at least one major run in it because ripple does have that quote quote unquote affiliation with the banks at least perception. I don't want to encourage anybody to buy by ripple and hold ripple long-term or anything like I said I use it. I sent from Point A.. Point B. I it's fast. That's what I like about. It ends there right does ripple have really big potential to at least reach. Its all time high. I personally don't think ripple will get much higher than it ever has already but there's a lot of space between here and there and if it just he reaches halfway to what it was which was three dollars and like fifty seventy cents. I don't remember you know that's almost two bucks. A dollar seventy right. And it's twenty two cents right now. Wow that's a lot. So on a investment side you know on a personal level. I look at that. I could see why it might be enticing. But I've been saying that since fifty cents and below right and all it's done is dropped dropped fifty percent in value or more at this case so when is a good time to buy it. I don't know if there's ever a good time to buy it because it's so I mean weird. It's weirder than all the other cryptocurrencies currency's my opinion. Yeah I mean again. I don't know a ton I it's definitely the one I always hear about. And even before I was Ah Looking more into the community in space. I'd seen it but again I I'm not a no way an expert obviously this. I'm not giving an investment advisor but you know on a personal level again. You know if I'm looking at ripple then look at Star lumens accelerate And the women's is something that I I love what they did last month when they burned. You know a third of their supply or even more I thought that was really nice of them to do. It said at least and I was really impressed with how they did that. An adult surprise Tony Body. They were doing it. You know so it was cool. You know I so if you're GONNA look into one of the aucoin like ripple at least go look at stellar but we could move on past that I just think that people should take ripple seriously in conversation because it's very familiar. People be prepared. Explain to them. Don't have to fight with them. Maceo don't buy ripple it sucks. No Man let them have their conversation if that interests them let them have that way of a bridge. It's an entry point into the blockchain space. And you you know if that's what it takes. Let them do it man. You know they'll figure it out or they won't mill. You're also kind of saying like you don't quite understand if someone can like try to shit on Bitcoin. And then and because they're like well you know look at ripple you know what I'm saying because it's like they're going through their own growing pains and drops and rises as well. It's all it's all kind of part of the space in general right. Yes I I'm hesitant to go into too much detail at on a big level but it does it does piss me off that people are so okay with having. This is where the media comes in the media is not against ripple the way that it likes to make make fun of Bitcoin. Right Adam obeys here everybody. I post thing here extra. Here's his comments. I'm unaffiliated affiliated with With any of these comments whatsoever and so within radio the laser Dude Adam obey see. He's saying yep now Adams good dude. He's been part of the community for a long time. Look let me let me give the extra appeal Army props if you literally attack them they they will forever never ever forget you and they will always be there to remind you that you said you hated ripple so you always built a careful so anyone have ripple radio DOT com. Ouch but that's really funny. Someone's going out now. Someone parked on it. You could buy it for thirty thirty three hundred dollars. If you're in the market guys fair fair enough all right Jim so let me let me ask you because I think your perspective and this is not just relevant. I think it is the perspective active. That is probably most necessary to at least Here here from because you're in between like you believe in you. You like this space enough to have interest. And you've sustained some interest. Chris and you're in you're out. You're still here right you know. And and your banking on your time being worth it at some point whether it be actually owning some some bitcoin cryptocurrency or participating bitcoin radio and being producing the show. And and and editing. All these podcasts. You know I mean it's not just a money space for you. There's some things that attracted you. How would you explain blinded like and you don't have to go into details but like do you find this as an embarrassment to you right now like if someone asks you you're like Oh man I hate having explain this or are you still fired up does this? Even you've been concerned you in a little bit no I mean mostly because You know hearing from people like you and other people in the space aced and of course listening to Bitcoin radio and hearing Whether it be I mean obviously we had said on this very show in the past like bitcoin. Bitcoin isn't necessarily the same as blockchain but just knowing a little bit about the technology where things are headed. I understand that kind of chain. Well you know what I mean like. It's not like bitcoin. has its own things in blockchain as its own things as well like seperation of two and also I guess ask from having some throughout the summer and seeing what happens like I like obviously this kind of on the lower and from my personal experience where I've seen it but I'm past the point of like staring at the price all day like like the first like month or so that I got a little bitcoin whereas I was just looking at the pricing and charts and being like. Oh what's this. Oh what's that now. It's like I'm like shit that sucks. It's down but I'm not like concerned -cerned really and I don't know I guess that's a good thing until maybe unless I ride all the way down to zero and then I'm like fuck I shoulda the known shouldn't listen to Joe Blackburn. Well on that you know. It's just like Jim. You got in at a time period. Heard where for the most part people were so pessimistic but they were momentarily happy right now because bitcoin had rose all the way up to almost fourteen thousand dollars. It was amazing. It was great to see that. Come back and if you backtrack all the way back and we bring this up several times at least a month you know if not every episode that we were at thirty to thirty three hundred dollars at one point this year. Yes that's the other piece to just knowing that where it was before Laura. I know it's still kind of coming out ahead of the game and then kind of seeing where it's going to go from there so even if you go back to January of twenty seventeen right and you say command. Bitcoin was at eight hundred bucks and then fast forward January twenty eighteen. We were like you know I don't know Eighteen eight thousand bucks right and then we came all the way back down and January. Twenty nine thousand nine. We were at three thousand something bucks right. There's one big big huge difference in all of those prices if you go back from the very beginning of Bitcoin all the way to today. There's only one year that that ever happened happened right. I mean it's literally just one year and it was January twenty eighteen years. You have major price differences. But they've all been positive price differences for the most part. It's just that one anomaly. And if you go back and remind people hey January two thousand eighteen or twenty eight hundred dollars you know January in two thousand and nine thousand nine hundred thirty five hundred bucks and he just eliminate that one huge price runup bad. You're not having this conversation at all. The worst thing that happened to Bitcoin and the best talk bitcoin is it went to almost twenty K.. Right that makes sense. Yeah Yeah and again from Michael in the chat. You must watch the price all day if you want to understand it. It's fluid ebb and flow prices. Part of its allure right now. I kind of get that. What I'm saying is like I have? I guess I'm not GonNa say the me I'm I'm holding. I'M NOT GONNA say the Meam says I'm just GonNa say it now. I'm not GONNA do that. That's that's to me now. I think bottle normal Normal so I know I'm just holding so I get what you're saying like that's Kinda understanding like what the market's at but I'm not at the point where I'm like stressing over right. I mean I guess if I was like a day trader or people that do that type stuff. Obviously it's all different story But I guess I'm just confident enough that I feel like it's GonNa Bounce back a you know the back story on Hoddle Jim since I mean sometimes I forget that you're you're probably not aware to all how all the stuff started are you. Were you around. Assume I. I assumed it was something like tone in the video game world where people would just mistype than it would travel and become much. Share this with you okay. So so I'll talk when Shirt now is going to say okay. Let me find the post. Let me find the post. I'm getting folks. I'm honored to be able to be the person that explains this suggest history. I actually kind of cool all right. Yep So hoddle which I thought when I first got in salt for the first time I thought I thought it meant something like hold on for dear life right and that obviously is You know it makes sense. And I'm not the only person who thinks that you know it looks like an acronym it doesn't say hold I mean if we're just holding something we would literally just say. Hold it right you know. But there's a reason why this exists. So I'm you know I'm going to send this to you right now. It is bitcoin. Talk Dot Org Forum. Hold on I hear Shit. Goes down the big Wayne talk form though he said it was yes. Bitcoin Talk Dot Org and that was the the original. Bitcoin you know. Hang out place. That was the decrypt coins writer of. Its Day right so here. It is the origin of Hoddle. And I'm going to send it to you and you. You should even read it out loud. How about that? I'm going to put it in the chat up. Actually just ask just put it on there. But I'm also putting in the private jet crash if you can click on that Jim I think you'll or copy paste that. Why don't you read it out loud for us? So is the the main. I don't have to read all these threads right. I just have to read this first thing. Yup and I want to read read the title. Okay keep mine everybody. If you're new to Crypto Ash Ashes posted the link But you can find all between bitcoin. Talk Dot Org work It's it's just search talk dot Org Hoddle and And two thousand thirteen separate t two thousand thirteen almost a year. Go ten. AM my time. I don't know what time it was where he's from He wrote this. I am hobbling go ahead and he obviously missed everybody. Just the record. Yeah Yeah Okay title. I am heartily I typed that title twice because I knew it was wrong. The first time still wrong what jeffs out at lesbian bar. BTC crashing crashing. Why am I holding Elia? Why because I'm a bad trader and I know bad trader? Yeah you good traders. There's can spot the highs and lows pit pat fifty wing Guangming Baton McMillan Mill No Bucks Chairman Lien. Their million in bucks. Sure no problem bro. Likewise the weekends are like Ohio. It's going down. I'm GonNa sow and then they're like doc. Oh God my astle when the smart traders who know what they're doing by back in but you know what I'm not part of that group when the traders by back in a Mardi par wait when the trade back in. I'm already part of the market capital. So guess who you're Cheating Day traders not me those time threads saying ooh you should have sold. Yeah no shit no shit. I should've saw I should've sold mall before every fell bob moments before every by but you know what not everybody is cool is as cool as you. You only sell in a bear market. If you're a good day trader. An illusion knew the people in between hall in a zero-some game such as this traders can only take your money of yourself so I've had some whisky actually on the bottle. It's spelled whisky. Whatever sue me but only if it's payable and BTC so what did you say man? This is great story. I mean I guess I was Kinda correct I was a little right. I knew it was like something to do with probably Typo but yeah I like that. He the stories a little bit deeper than that because he kind of saw the Typo but he was just he was is drunk he was just had it with this kind of had it with it. But he's also given in and resigned himself to the life he's living and spilled his guts out on a form orm everyday appreciate that now and Jim. Obviously I should have shared that with you in private private. So you're not seeing for the first time but I think it's catcher that and it's raw element you know but to me that's a really important aspect of where we are today like. That's they I that mentality is the holders mentality right. That's the way that you should be thinking about in a lot of ways. You're I'm not. I'm already part the mark capital. I'm not adding to or taking away from it right and guess what if everybody just quits stop selling bitcoin. I know Ashley Argue with me on this but if you just quit selling your bitcoin folks becomes more rare and if everybody just stopped selling bitcoin it would almost be priceless like there would be no way to put it market value. On right right you gotTa have some cell but just enough just to keep the price going up right. Stop Selling Your bitcoin traders. This is really on you. You know when when when price goes down it's the traders is the sellers Utah Utah causing your go down and this community small enough where you could pretty much go find everybody who sallied Bitcoin for the most part and you can see the wallets that are dumping their bitcoin. Bitcoin and therefore you know you should. You should be really You should be really aware that you're hurting everybody. When you're selling that much but nevertheless it's free market you can do whatever you want? And that's just my opinion. You can do whatever the hell you want to do. I can't stop it. Yeah Fair enough. But you're taking food out of my child's mouth who just being dramatic I do you take it out of my child's house arrest In Tim obviously in terms of trade or one of the great ones. He's somebody who I respect respected journey and I think it's amazing obviously trade myself and I'll sell bitcoin. I got paid for something you know so I mean I'm not immune to to selling bitcoin. I just think that you know the traders focused on the price to an extent that it really manipulates it. Down Right people are going to assume it's going down so they're trading and they're selling more than they're buying right now because they expected go down because the sustainable influx of new money. It just doesn't there and so by default you're not going to have the Bulls win more than the bears. You're just going to have the Bulls win in massive droves for short amounts of time because the bears will drive it back down and that's the problem I have with it all. Fuck the bears right it. Yup Yeah in every cell is a by everybody has a cell. Liquidity is crucial. I understand that concept but what if we did not sell I mean it just makes it harder to buy it makes it more rare and at some point we're going to be in a situation where it is rare and people are not like how how I mean you could always go find gold right but people aren't just taking gold the gold market and Saint by my gold and then buying it back or selling selling gold and buying it back. No people do trade gold absolutely right but but they're not doing this on a on the magnitude of Of the way that Bitcoin is at least in the in the sense in they. If you compare the amount of people buying and selling into the actual size of the cryptocurrency space and then take the gold space amount of people who have bought and the amount of people who are trading it. It's a much shoe. It's a huger way way bigger a massively. Bigger amount in crypto than there is in the golden silver markets that are traders that way so well at at the end of the day. Then do we panic or do we not panic. No you just wait until everybody realizes. Bitcoin is the thing to have again. And then it reestablishes a new a new bottom autumn and a brand new all time high and I think that all time highest one hundred thousand dollars very is there a price point where it's okay to panic. Let's say how do you go if it's if it's below if it's at like twenty five hundred. Do we panic a little bit. Well that would mean that we lost our previous bottom right so a little concern. Obviously when you're at twenty five hundred dollars compared to seven thousand dollars at twenty five hundred our bitcoin you know every hundred dollars is a lot more of a percentage than it is right now right Orange Virginia to buy more well it is I mean. Look what if you told people people in July that you could buy Bitcoin at twenty one hundred dollars right now set of fourteen thousand. How would people feel so the relativity of the the the price ice is is immediate for people right and look? I also agree with Michael What he just said margin trading killing the Kripa space? I think it does bring a really negative additive in pessimistic. Bearish tone to the whole space. Because you're you're first off your trade with Bitcoin not yours you're borrowing and secondly you know the crypto exchanges They want you to lose right and You Know I. It just adds to this negative sentiment and long-term you'd a lot of newbies go and Blues Bitcoin and then it goes to people who are going to sell it you know rather than hold it. Most people who go and lose bitcoin exchanges are not you know season traders obviously because those people know how to limit themselves not how to take big losses. They know how to to set themselves up for wins and be happy when they're up one percent rather than fifty percent you know some people expect and a hundred dollars and you want to make a thousand. That's four hundred percent profit folks can happen. Sure you gotta be exactly right though every every time you can't lose and you gotTa make sure stop losses and you know if you're only bet with two hundred eighty bucks. Fifty Bucks isn't enough. Even though fifty bucks on two hundred fifty s twenty percent you know shit I mean I it's relative but it's you know people lose that when they go to Al do it. Look I got one hundred extra dollars in Crypto. Guess what I'm doing I'm GonNa go roll my dice on the Great. BITCOIN exchange called oil. If I was allowed to it'd be I'd go to bit Max. And then one hundred x one hundred hours and try to make a thousand bucks a day just off one hundred dollars because it's fun and it's engaging keep my mind busy And you know up to Michael's point ultimately it's cell I lose and then it's automatically going. I went to an exchange that selling it you know. Well Shit. I lost my thought was going to say is I. I guess one of the better places to be and I'm saying this kind of facetiously. NBA little sarcastic is to be that guy on the sidelines. Because you know there are those those guys on the sidelines like you said when it was hitting you know thirteen in July or whatever the fuck I wish I bought at seven but then when it drops at seven like like how many of those people actually do buy at seven. They're kind of like those are the same people that are like well but it's done game over it. Yep Now It's a good point Jim mcgann and it's people they ride on their motions in this. You know. Think about the person who bought five years ago closed. Her eyes is closer computer and didn't look at until today. How how do they feel right? When big was at four hundred dollars you know six hundred bucks whatever it might have been and you know again ashes furniture after? I know that I'm gambling on that and I'm expecting to lose one hundred dollars for Tasha's point. She says the difference is that you know you're saying that you know capital letters gambling and and tempests. I I hope you you You get the Sarcasm in gyms pessimism in some of his sarcastic remarks about bitcoin dying you know. Obviously he would be here if he'd literally thought that and if he was We would have an honest conversation about it but I don't think he actually believes that. I don't want to speak for your job. No I'm just I'm playing up. The I'm just kind of playing devil's advocate advocate to a lot of things. I'm all set holding up the environment. What I'm seeing people in the community animals will just trying to get Joe Blackburn? A little fired up. Get them a little rowdy. See what he's GonNa say. Well my folks house. I can't get drunk as I'd like to It's a I got my kid and You know I gotTa Take Care of her so I gotta got to be low responsible so I can't get as loose as I'd like to but but also to what you said Jim is that it's also important for people to hear me. Have that conversation with Jim Right. I think it's I mean we're we're we're keeping it simple and we're not gonNA have a super long tonight in fact we're probably GonNA light winding down here shortly but But I want people to feel like they can reach. If you're having a problem with with something or if you want to explain something specifically I know myself as Rolston ten pace among many of the people that are watching tonight and commenting you could just find one of their comments and you can probably feel really comfortable going with them. you know and You know we're going to them and asking them to help you explain this to somebody you know. Tell me what. Your problems are. Common Questions We'll have this conversation conversation. We can have it with them. Bring them on live. If you want to do a live over Thanksgiving dinner. Let me know that could be great. TV Bro. I'm out you know and and ask them in my dad's office. I'm not in mind so I mean I don't mind showing hold on. She wants to see you know line over there. There's another one over here and it's hard to see him. I'm from this point. Those are Alabama Mississippi. Dear the way that I like to. But we're very proud of all of our animals and we are outdoorsman and we respect the environment that the the wildlife and the the wonderful thing that is The Woods I mean it's just it's it's in my blood right so we like to. I don't like to go and bike helmet. That's been through the processor Jim. That's that's that's been injected with steroids. And I like to know that I have honest real meat coming. I'm from you know the the God given you know environment like I love it. You're going there. You're chopping them up and going through the the whole butcher. Sure thing like you're you're you're buring it. Yes it's too Yucky. It's not it's not like somebody's got to do it right. Oh no no I agree. Someone's it's almost like against I'm not against like eating meat or hunting or anything like that. But I'm just thinking like Yucky is until Oh you realize like everybody in human existence until like a couple of days decades ago was doing this to survive literally daily habits. They they had to keep by. They didn't have refrigeration or freezers. Either a hundred years ago they killed it and ate all of it or they smoked it which took a lot of work to you know. Oh and so. Many people were saying here about Bitcoin on computers and Internet money and Christmas. And how you get argue with people and we're not talking about. How are we going to eat tomorrow and staying alive for the next winter right? I mean we're really lucky to be in this day and age. I mean life is Kinda cool. I've seen into the wild he. He killed a deer but he didn't know Even up in Alaska. You didn't know how to keep it fresh enough so to get bugs and maggots already lost it. All right. Yeah and he was really upset wasn't he. Yeah that's why he died exactly. Why Fortunately Got Russell or apparently but anyways we can move on from our delicious talk about meat I know not everybody? I'm not trying to get into arguing about that. Joe Wants can eat him alive. I actually don't chicken. which is odd? I mean I'll have some chicken. I'm not against chicken. I just don't like chicken from the store. I don't have a problem with it so manella but that's not to say that I won't go to Popeye's and get chicken sandwich overrated. I haven't tried it yet. Yeah me neither. That's what I mean it's overrated overrated. Well I'm not but I know I know it ain't worth I mean I know we're we're not talking about crypto right now but I know any worth waiting in line almost getting beat up or whatever. I know. It Ain't worth that especially you're definitely get beat up Jim. I'm sure you could talk your way out of it. I would just be like get out of my way by Bitcoin. What give my chicken sandwich? POW is now but CHICK-FIL-A. I'm not I'm not a big chicken eater so I don't go there very often. I do like how they put their pick on there. There's just something about chick-fil-a tastes. I don't really love their fries. Which I'M GONNA get probably killed over so I don't go to Chick-fil-a that often I do like Popeye's because they sell shrimp and I like shrimp so I'll go to Popeye's Popeye's before ever go to a chick-fil-a but I mean I I try not to have this conversation too but I just I find like Popeye's probably does chicken sandwiches pretty good because they're really good at making things really fattening and really yummy? I'm sure it's good. I'm sure it's good. I'm just I mean maybe the hype died down. I'm just at the time when people people are waiting again in our line or something like that. I I ain't about that life experience it's about the experience lame experience I mean but there's many the things that are Lennox differences that individuals find. That are cool. What would be a cool experience? I'll wait in line for Disney ride and that's cool and kick gas okay not waiting in line for a dumb Popeye's Sandwich Marshall. If you're listening right now you wait in line for more than thirty. He minutes for a sandwich. I don't like you well I will say what would you wait in line on when it comes to food Well I have have waited in line at trendy spots before I can't think of any of them offhand ooh I waited at in Nashville. What's there it's the touristy chicken that they have had he beats? I waited in line for that. I don't think it was that long though but I mean at what point do you find Jim like like this is too long of a wait. it's a good question. That's a great question I guess it depends. You're talking about just for food. Yeah just for food like I've been let's say I'm not saying it specifically to a restaurant not Popeye's but like if you wanted to go somewhere what's the point where you're just like it. This isn't worth it probably. It's it's tough because if you had a sit down restaurant you're fine with waiting but you're talking specifically waiting in line nine. I mean whatever I mean I'm not being generic here. Is there a certain a point in timers like okay. Eighteen probably thirty minutes thirty minutes would be the cutoff. Okay Fair Enough Helena. DRUCE has had Abe's was put chicken would open on Sunday. Yeah we agree. That's part of the visas. Great Ahead Hattie B.'s. Aren't you an even a Nashville boy right. But I'm not a chicken eater so Gotcha Gotcha but I've heard several great things about it. You're not the first person bring it up. It's it's or at least nationally famous and I. I don't mind waiting in line. I JUST WANNA wait in line more than like ten minutes so if I automatic I don't I I actually have more patients than you for a line. I mean I was in Austin in September and I was almost going to go to Franklin's barbecue where that is pitched like you're gonNA wait in line but it is like you would. We're saying an experience lead supposed to be part of it but I ended up going to a different place. Ace where the guy was taught by the same person who taught. Franklin's argues amazing of course and a lot of his touristy now news but barbecue is one of those foods is that I will wait for And I won't complain that much anyways but we're getting way off topic. We can wind up on the hour and I know we both have things to do. And I'm at home with the family. I know a lot of you are finishing up work. Maybe hit home tomorrow again. Folks please be careful. Please be safe best-case if you're not necessarily celebrating the American tradition of Thanksgiving you're somewhere or else or you just don't WanNa do Thanksgiving whatever. I still hope that you have a wonderful week and I and I hope that you're telling everybody about bitcoin. If you need help go to Bitcoin for Christmas there's a budget documents Humi- you know. I know you could reach out. People like Ash. She's got a wonderful educational thing with cryptic and you know obviously friend moderator drew. Michael might have some news about him. Coming up drew. I'm glad you watch tonight anybody else. If you guys got things going on Andrew P I would talk great things about you but I have nothing to say. Oh God him. anyways now may manager tend to go back to back and forth all the time and I appreciate his insight fullness. I'll leave it at that and we'll and we'll we'll until next time all right jam. This is bitcoin radio everybody they'd BTC. Were bitcoin lives. What we Miss Jim? Anything else why you just want to call it. I think we got on that food tip because we're already in Thanksgiving mode so we're yeah. We're already getting ready for a feast east but yes the CRYPTO verse people. It belongs to all of us especially you're in these Down Dark Times even. This is obviously not the darkest time but I'm just saying people get pretty down. But the crypto verse belong to all of us. We know we're doing for we know Joe Blackburn's doing for it what are you doing for it. 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But we can kinda just talk because that's what we do is old friends and just cover anything. We write we wander. Yeah. We do kind of wonder, you know. Yeah. That's the point of those conversations right structure. Just kind of like go where your hair moves? Everyone that download the show going to say thank you, everyone that plays the archive of show on your internet station or terrestrial station. Once they think you you guys also to our PR team the PR reps that do reach out to us. We are talking about your product. Whether it's through social media or the plug on the show say, thank you. Also things have been picking up. They usually pick up a roundabout showing a roundabout. Just prior to Father's Day, you know, dads and their their gadgets. Right. That's when it starts to get a little heavy, but. Other than that men. A couple of topics we won't cover. When try and keep this. To decent timeframe. Because tonight, I'm heading cube on his high schools being honored for. Yes. Like some type of honor roll she makes like the the dean's list. So there's something happening tonight. And then also on the fourteen. And I will tell you this. I had I had to go to tonight because I usually go to like the bigger agains on Thursday night. So hadn't been is tons of vendors and everything else like this, and it was focusing around the world of fitness and technology, and I just said. I'll catch you next year. You. I would never be able to live there. You know? I mean, right, right. Father's Day is on next month. No this with them the black nickel decision. Right. Exactly, I was like. Showing we were at the point where I had the two options. And I said we're we're in the end-game now. Right. Who is like I've got I said I've seen my future. If I choose the wrong option, right? And he getting blasted by every member of the family or and having away talking nonstop not near fever, right? But here's the thing. The the worst of that to me is what you think is over it. Come back randomly like you heat Foy for the first few months, but the next two years like when you think it's like, it's it's it's the as you at like barbecues while you have necessarily you know, what I mean? So it's it's destined thing that will professionally return like a. Infinite boomerang, so. Yeah. The wives Royce to make. It's the side with with going to the. Family affair. Yeah. And feeling family members that do with the to the pied. I'm just joking right now. Syria's with? No, you know, the the ingong references to the movie because you know, somehow, it'll get back, and then the mission will be listening to Chuck. Oh, I heard the show where you were talking about choosing, you know, and I'm like. Yeah. Yeah. So. Couple of topics. Some of this stuff will take a little bit longer. Some of the stuff we can dive deeper into. Want your take on game? Well. Well, it's it's been. Well, let's talk about spoilers, right? So yeah. I was watching something a couple of days ago where they were they were talking about how. TV spoilers is different from movies spoilers. Right. So game of thrones people like have a different timeframe. Whereas I will I will crew we have a ten day window, right? So we don't talk about like these things that take the like take to the to the community. Like, this this movie has right? So a movie that everybody wants to see not everybody's gonna see it opening day. So you get people like a week plus some right? So ten days you'll squad might have two weeks. But by then people begin to begin leaking. Right. So this past week one of the Roussel's said what we were doing right? He said ten days is good. Because people wanna talk about it. You can't not not talk about it at the same time. You don't wanna be, you know, disrespectful to your neighboring your friends who haven't seen him if had to work late wanted to see them with their spousal was away or whatever the case. May be having said that right? What past the ten day limit? So. I want to I wouldn't even know how to tell your listeners to plug up the ears and come back, but ten days. Thing. Yeah. We're beyond that point. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. So in trying to be polite to them and be the understanding of their thing. But if it's beyond beyond two weeks may two nights it's made a billion dollars in change your lawyer. So this movie two billion where oh, wow. I don't like to bury money. Disney owns your childhood or the did the Snow White Princess book. So the girls all the superheroes up for the boy and all those who like both. And you know, what I mean? And if you don't like, none this other stuff on you that Disney add this it's crazy how how so connected. That company is in like the growing up of all of us. But I I remember reading comic books and talking about these books like the other comic book kids, I'm talking about eight and nine and ten, you know. And you would think we used to talk about how you you couldn't make these movies. I've been which vitamin came out on television and captain America with the television show, and they won't horrible would nothing like the comic books and I loved them. Anyway, you know what I mean? And now to see this thing like I think I can tell you the best seen in all these movies these twenty movies over the past ten years when sandals in the in Infinity wars the last movie when Sandoz hit iron man with a moon. Right that whole scene when I want I watch over and over again 'cause it's such a comic book scene. Like, it's so over the top doesn't cover it. But over the top sounds insincere and and disrespectful to like. The idea of what comic books are about. Right comic books are about the bold idea. The big gesture willing to risk. Get all these. And then when you fight even a has in the carbos, we read his kids you beat the ever living stuffing out of somebody. But no one ever died. All if they did they came back like Debra Zysman back backing all this. So this is the magic of comic books. Right. So the the idea that and it was he he. He's standing there like grip like grips the moon as the moons that our background and there's another shot from like the moon in the foreground with where they are. You can't see them best the planet that they're on. And do the close up of the moon just beginning to you've seen it just begin to be affected by whatever he's doing a million miles away. And then they cut back to him. And all you see these comments from the bits of the moon. That was like that is whoever wrote that scene on the comic books. Right. They were one of those comic book kids, you know, long before they knew what heartbreak words in rent was and bad bosses were you know, they were embedded in this war. And that seems to me speaks all these movies. Right. So now getting back to the the. What would you call this? I guess the capstone on this album called the masterpiece films. They're all not for stars. But the worst of them like everybody's going on about the dock world. It was not that bad movie people in we Americans like the hate stuff. It was not that bad movie and some chapters in books are better than other chapters in books, and that's how you should you this movie. So was it weaker? Yeah. But it was still a great. Well, it was still a good film right in. It was still a good film amongst great films. So now you take in game which. I felt like I had taken something before I saw it. 'cause I left big about it like. It existed. You know, like like you ponder why? World War One happened. Well, well, Archduke Ferdinand wasn't that big a deal? And so what do I like this girl, and it was just proxy thing? Just like we have proxy wars. And we have a third World War because nobody because I have a personal warm, but but but you'll go real world issues that that affect you. If you follow politics follow politics, but I walked out of that movie with the same kind of intense like need to figure it out at in this movie because I mean what what's me about five movies. The unlike not by movie, but time travel movies is in this particular is they denounced one set of time travel kind like floppy, the the the fact that the future deal, which is if I go back in time, and I break up your mom and dad, you don't exist. Right. That's there. I thought I interrupted like what should have happened whereas in in Infinity ward, the idea is if I go back in time to break up, your mom and dad your mom instead so many in our time line. But now right that they branch off. Right. So now, you instantly you no one noticed it as it happened. But like it's like what if Hitler may three decisions right versus all of them wrong. Right. And then all of a sudden, maybe he doesn't rule the world, but Hebrews all your right? Maybe America know this thing. So it's it's sort of li- off in this this way, which I buy fine. You give me another interesting narrative, I love what if but then the tie back up the way they tied it back up. I can only think that all those things are for the next batch of movie, right? 'cause there there are a lot of questions are asking about it. And if that's the case, then these guys are brilliant and many are America. Yeah. Jose. They are they are brilliant. And yeah, he should run America. Because I think he said we are still asking questions like, okay. So what does this mean now because I mean, they were laying to many different breadcrumbs. Yeah. I mean, I near that the idea that what's her name good is the one from the past who's now in the future Massey's. I mean, all all the all the bars that she had no longer exists because she didn't create gone. Yeah. But now she's not in. She's she's she's from the path but not not only from the past. She's in a different time line you. So you could take story in several different completely ridiculous directions. I mean, I love the fact that was going to be in darkwa. If James Gunn puts them in right? But the idea that. They they did some that. I'm a number at a lot of science fiction. You know, but I've never seen someone go from the past right to the future. Into a separate time line. You. I mean, just that scene alone. What could just explode ahead? But yeah, that movie is about that's what I I walk away thinking about most. I mean, I mean, the movie had a thousand good things, you know, the cabin Margaret vice captain Margaret thing was beautiful, and, you know, the senators, but yeah, what I got stuck on. It was it was it was a good movie. I mean, there was some tears shed so issue with his mother you wondering why it's Comoro could survive rocketing, his mom, right? So all these kind of questions that. A good movie will make you ponder about one. Make you want to see it again. Because the first thing about movies, and the first thing about any good meat media is the suspension any good fiction media all media because we have news agency are doing this. But it's the suspension of disbelief, right? It's the idea that you buy the premise like a joke. You buy the premise you buy the bit. So if I told you like a ridiculous racist joke, for instance, I tell you a racist joke, and you're like, I don't like racist jokes. I don't like any of these appropriate jokes. Rape Joe's in your that. You're not buying the premise, so so you're going to be angry. But one of these guys where you know, you're lay back, you're like all the comedians thing, you should be able to tell all kinds of jokes. No matter what. So embarrassed community off, you know, they don't want any censorship's under comedian community. They buy off premises for the bit. Right. So here we are. I'm like when I see these movies, I instantly. I'm like. All right. I met with disbelief until you until you pulled me out of it. Right. And I ask them questions, but that doesn't necessarily pulled me out of the fiction. It's gotta be something super ridiculous. The pulled me out of the fishing like a coffee cups in your game of thrones. You know, she might have had left a high pod on the table. Then I'd have been like all right. That's just lazy in wise. You know? I mean, it's not even a macguffin. But mcgovern's are these things that they put in scripts to further the story, they they serve no purpose. You know what I mean? Like, a good macguffin in the first Star Wars was Di Di that the boffins many boffins guide to bring these tapes to the and you're like, oh, who are they? We don't have to tell you who they are what the all what they did they help get the story to the next level. You know what I mean? But it's that's that's what stories are, you know, you work hard all day. You have a beer with your boys. You commiserate that's part of life. You know, you sit and have a tender moment which. I loved one, you know, that's part of life. You watch these movies to escape into syntactical realms that part of life and all these things after the nice moments or bad moments. Whatever you know, you serve yourself. Well, if you if you think about go hung, this was a nice moment. And that's why was nice moment. I'm going to look for more these nice moments in life and see if I can, you know, Jack him up, you know, cheek the machine if in fact case, but. It's if it's just good. Good old fashioned newfangled fairytale myth making American them. This this comic book world, you know? 'cause like if like skateboarding that like white poor kids in California came up with in the early seventies. It's like rap music that black kids came up with in the late seventies. It's this unique interesting American thing that the world of this for and that we should be proud of. And we we shouldn't so much treat it always I'm preaching. Now. We shouldn't retreat always as as idiots fair for, you know, but at one point in time the stories of Cinderella in rose red, and you know, those were new story too. Right. I mean, it's just it's just good storytelling. I would totally own that movie. And I see it again and there twenty of them if quite a sit down. To watch. But man. Yeah. The the old comic books USA trail travel like parallel to like the civil rights era. This idea of mutants who are considered like black people. Why didn't they have rights and all that stuff? And I thought that sort of angle of it all began to get preachy. But this marvel avengers Tony stark. I am an aunt, ma'am. Atman my favorite of them, by the way. It's not as big in splashy. Let me know when I'm going on too long here, man. So it's not like ant man is not that big and splashy like all the, but it's it's did the heart to it and the little girl who's ended does a sweet job and defense. Got forget his name. It's hysterical. TI's pretty good in it. It's it's a nice. I mean, the villains are are kind of like week sorts, but that's fine for the for the temple of it. It's just a great action. PG I would call it G actually superhero movies compared to some of the grittier like I would say of these marvel which one I I would say the first arm man would sort of gritty and actually more comic book of of most of them to get most people on board. But it was also a fair amount of of propaganda film of American war, especially -ality, which is fine. I mean, the weapons of. Fine. I totally get that in the story. But this movie is just about a guy trying to get back to his daughter, essentially is is and everything he does in that is is designed to that end. He's got I've got three days to get off a house arrest and and be able to take my kid awhile. And that's that's his motivation for that whole movie and through the court. So that he loses the suit, and you know, he gets intercepted by these guys who what I'm talking about ironman too. I'm an aunt man to with watch the watts while that the whole arc of those two movies are kind of my favorites. But this one the comedy, and this one was good ragnarok was is my second favorite. I'd have to say, and because like it gave hope a chance to like speak in and like tell you what he was coming from. And then how they explained the whole. You know hawk thing is good too. I mean, those guys did a stellar job. I would just love to see. So it's twenty film kinda what do they call them? Not not when you get somebody to script. No. But before some of that, they specked like in Hollywood, they give you a spec script just like twenty thirty pays of what the the the script and gonna be just so you can get kind of I guess the money people can get a feel for it. And then there's one a battle with. I think it's ten pages. But I just level. They they're not writing Tim pace get for these movies because they've they know they have the backing for it. But yeah, like you get these spectrum of all of them. I'm pretty sure the spec script would like one hundred pages and all the actress scripts have to mount out if every move is ninety two a page on a minute on the screen at the page in the script. Right. So if every movie is an avenger in game was three hours. So that's what. Is that non eighteen I'm trying to do the math in my head about that's like three hundred pages of script. So that three hundred pages. How many pages was arm, man? Those who movies, right? You end up with a movie script, that's like fifteen hundred two thousand pages of all all really in a man when they when they start releasing this up in ten years by the script, but Disney is gonna make another ten billion dollars because I hate to say, but I may need the hard bound scripts of all these movies as well as in, you know, they're going to change the format now using DV not about say DVD, we stopped using DVD had them all on DVD. Now that you'll get them streaming. And then the next ten years, they'll probably be selling them to you in holograms, and you can sit amongst the the battle of New York amongst the rubble is arm and endorse. Do that thing around you these movies are the new, you know, the new? Fairy tales of our age when you could just. Cut your brain often go to something task world like my dad's age, I think it would swashbuckling movies right in the thirty that was Errol Flynn. And like, and they all did the the big move back in with like the jump on a pirate boat chip rather? And and slide down the sale with a nice, remember those things. So all these things are just I mean. You can be proud of him. But you should you should show them a fair amount of respect. But you shouldn't take them seriously. You know what I mean? So Jesse called you don't take him play doesn't mean you don't respect them. I mean, the art form and how much stuff way is it's intesting, but the people who are talking about it promotes violence, and you know, it it causes shooting. It's ridiculous. 'cause no one's also flying off a building they'll getting into giant car chases on trying to raid the mid with their ragtag band of of mercenary that are always in a a vengeance movies right into this question to me into the gate. We did you feel it was necessary to have that the the genocide approach included into the movie, you know, the just the whole premise of the Santo snatching. Yeah. Ten. Call each other side because his here. The thing genocide is sort of a loaded word and genocide also I I would use extinction. I'm gonna use extinct. Extinction is everybody Jimmy inside. Generally is about one particular group of people. So if you wanna say he did the snap and got rid of half of humans. Okay. That's a genocide. But he was talking about half of all life on the planet. So half of the birds half of the bees half of them in half of the women half of the frog. So half of the you know what I mean? So. I wouldn't call it a genocide. But I would what I call it population control, absolutely. So it's the hidden message about that is this this little model that we're on swinging around the sun shooting through space. It's getting overcrowded, and the people who tell you that, you know, we'll just go and live on Mars every dicusss. And that's that's my take away from it. You know what I mean? So what do you think you think you think Thanasis a Republican or democrat? You know, I hate to say it, but why would panels be a Republican or democrat? But something totally and completely new. I think sandals wouldn't be either. I think fantails would likely be Putin. Right. I mean, he's about getting it done. And if you're not gonna well not who who who is who from my who held of cover gene together with dark measures and bold action. And the world was feared to deal with them. Right. Her. Wow. If you could sort parts and all these characters who who be right. Who would be captain America who would be the the world villain? But even Santa's has support right? I mean people. Danielson is is a villain. Like Darth Vader was the villain. Right. You you sort of had disrespect the doctor. He's not a Bill in like. Like any of these? How can't come up with a wrote bad guy? Who'd you just kinda just? Hate to hate. But not like respect, even though he's the bad guy. But. Yeah. You know, bad guys are not supposed to be you know, who started this trend Alan Rickman when he was a bad guy in in die. Right. He was smart clever like he dress. Well, he wasn't this schyster bum right before that like, you could be a mobster and taught well have all the night stuff. People like fear you and without your way. But they didn't like you bought the with the money that stuff you had, you know, they love you because you are mobster. But this this kind of energy is different. Right. It's it's willing to if someone said this guy the bad guy. You would be like who him. Nah, I'm at or you would know that go, but you would make excuses for that guy. He does this a hold us again, the, you know, you oh sorry about that. So it's it's this kind of thing and San hose is this. He's not like I'm trying to rob this. Bank to get more money to get these women and to get this space Bentley or whatever the case is he like, you know, the world was beautiful like his his his his motivation in not engage in. I forget the name of it. But he tells you like. You know, then you weren't daredevil and the, but it was hunger, and there were too many people in this world, right? And then he he had the problem on his world. And then he realized the problem was just greater than his world. It was every place, and you know, being an all in type of cat. He was like, well if this here on not Bandar, it is here, titan everywhere. I die. Thank you. If is here on titan in the problem that site in the problem is every place. So yeah, I mean, I think San hose in the last twenty years one of the great villains of American cinema. You know, I think we were needing one b but we you know, we reinvent like somebody's business. We need. We reinvented the hero with Sigourney Weaver. Right. I mean, God love her. And now all of a sudden, everybody's like gotta have a strong women characters this movie that doesn't go anywhere affect you know, they don't wanna give her credit. But like if you I dare you. Put a woman in a movie, which is like, we're the men who will save me. And then she goes to run it like in the fifties and chips and Paul women with them minds. They will March on Washington on what the heck do you? And they'd be absolutely right. You know, we're not trying to go back, and the is that you know, you you will put like if if you did put that character in a film, it will have to be opposite that the strong female character. Who's like, I can do this myself for or whatever many virgins of that strong character than not always punchy you in the face right there solving problems there in in Jurassic Park. It was. Oh my God. What was the name of those ladies? Anyway, when when they needed them, the lock the door, the young woman got on and and ninety two reinstalled the locks on the the gates in the perimeter. And. Forgotten name the other woman that is you know, anyway, but this is, you know, this is the new the new thing and. Man. It's it's it. I wonder how they're going to do. The black widow movies because she's not super powerful. So not. It's gotta be interesting. And the good thing about Marvel's. They have so many type of heroes, right? You can make a marvel heroes movie about horror movie, right? You can make one about love story, you make one about science fiction, you make one that's more realistic about like some of them you into like instead of being able to let like housing and building cars, some can only lift pencils, and papers and move coffee cups. Right. That's that's a totally different set of movies. So this is just going to be, you know, and I kinda getting burnt out with other the the action movie stuff, but the superhero movie stuff, but you know, I gotta say I saw that Spiderman trailer, and I was like, okay. One more. It looks good and spider spider-man's always been one of my favorites. And though his movies were good in Florida. Ho wholesome, and you know, soak to the idea of not giving up in and get into the next age. Even if you had to do it gets off, you know, and no one fuse you 'cause it in in the first Spiderman movie, he was saying I'm trying to tell you that this guy vultures is is a problem. You should look into them. Right. And they're like now, we got it don't worry 'cause they're in the middle of moving. Remember that you had him and happy and Tony's too busy form, and the whole idea of that is very much like the kind was idea at may doesn't get it his. I mean, his girl begins to get after she finds out what he's doing his his all time. But that's a tragedy of that character. I love that character as a kid, and then you gra- got out of high school and his life. His life fell apart knows like he's supposed to be extra smart. He built these webs. Right. He saves all these people. He does all these things wives. He perpetually broke and unhappy. Why woman always give it some something graduates high school and college vitamin become just kind of like the one of the latest characters and and comic book history. People penalty broke and unhappy and most every other character. I mean, he wins. But at every every book is that such a cost. It's like why do it? You know what I mean? So it's did you see in China version? Into enjoyed it. Did you like? Oh, I did. I liked it. A lot. And and for very much the same reasons, but when they did miles Morales, even though they made him black and Puerto Rican kids, it was still what made may ridge new, Peter Parker popular, right? Peter Parker, all the other superheroes. That I've never eaten superman was an adult. Batman was an adult, right? Or if they were kids that were sidekicks Spider-Man was the first one I ran across a who got his powers in highschool. Right. And according to the law, it was like a field trip when night grade sealed so he had to be around to thirteen fourteen somewhere around there, and the idea that you know, he keeps trying to do this thing as a kid, which is why his hit statute will always small in these books compared to everybody else. I always thought was interesting and. You know, like I said. The character. Sorta is a latchkey kid like he he's he's an orphan in like pass dine in a Himalayan plane crash. I'll enough 'cause they were missionaries. I think and he's saying care by his his grandparents on this Queen Street. Right. We're from queens. And it's is that kind of just small town. That's why I think he got me. He was and it's. It's the idea of perpetually trying to feel a the even as you see him in all these kinds of books. Get like, you know. Get get punished essentially. So the mama Rawlinson into this fight averts is sort of the same thing. Right. He's trying to be his own per team trying to do his own thing. He stuck with what his parents saw him to do like, Peter Parker was right? You know, great response with great power congregants possibility. He tells them that not knowing he'd superhero, it's idea that, you know, be responsible person do the right thing in the world. Despite what people say about you like try not to give in you know. I know your dad was in there for you. I know your mom they've not liked you. I know. But you know, there you have to if you've got no, friends and family you have to look. To you. So that that means maybe you have to read more soft, right? Maybe you have to save more here workout mo-, their take on it. But the idea of of of that I think if I had to put it in a base thing is is is sort of this inner positively not confidence confidences. Is a is another thing. That's highly. Right. But this this inner kinda call on yourself to solve a problem versus falling into what we need is. Which is the thing. And don't get me wrong. They what was me exists in the world because it's needed right? It's a balancing thing. But you don't you don't need to main line it? You know, what I'm saying need to to get a six pack of every day because you don't like your boss or your man is being cool to you that day or you don't know what the heck to do with the kids. Right. That whole the whole idea of is if you if you want disgraced power, and this great responsibility, you have to mold yourself into the person who can be about right? So this is this is at least what I took from it like reading these books over decades and revisiting the idea of Spiderman. So now, you get mild Morales who has the same thing. His dad is like you're not in the movie. He's like, I love you. He's like he's like, you know, that's kinda that's that's kind of one of these. Great Pablo great responsibility things as lane as it is. You know, the power of love like say is is this magic thing. So your your mom kissing you in public man, barris you in front of your friends. Right. And they may they may give you grief later as your eight nine and ten, but you learn to take the slings and later on when you're thirty and someone makes a joke not sensitive abide because these things happen incrementally. You're slowly able to carry more weight you're slowly able to push heavier load your slowly able to to run a longer distance over the course of time. So it's it's these kind of things that I think we lose in our society with with. Is idea of of taking the short route which a lot of us. Do right hip. Hop is all about getting that money. And it's like don't you care? How you got the money to work. Here's got that money. It's like, yeah. But you you were kind of a person. And now you're hanging out at the Mets gala, but you know, what? I mean, it's like what is the standard? I even when they guys had his idea of mobility, people weren't righteous people. Right. This idea chivalry people want righteous people. But like some people tried this strikes me about this whole mob. Morale is Peter Parker kinda but I have homework, but I want to do this. I'm gonna see this girl. But I, but I can't let this weighty thing. Go because I was I am the type of person I was raised while enough alert and well enough or educated while it up or invested myself in something while enough to know that this will bother me. And that means it will follow me. If no one knows that. I did it. Why didn't do the thing that whatever the thing may be? I will it will revisit me. You know, like how we saw your show earlier today. If you don't go up to the family event, it will revisit you like so you'll sit there and you'll go I think that should have done this. Maybe I could have said that like if I. Didn't have such a temporary you can work on your temporary and people do that. But people people hit their level and the happy and some people. Time fight through these things and like ultramarathons who run hundred mile versus twenty twenty six point two birds with guys who kind of like do five ks right? Like, these are these ladders, right? Like chaos is the ladder. Yeah. But you know, so it's up achievement. So this all started because you asked me about mog Morales. Can you believe it so miles Morales very much like Kita Parker, and the idea that you know, you get a universe with a lot of characters Gwen Stacy lots fighter Gwen spider. New are all these characters are essentially the same template. Right. They have that same sense of doing the thing that needs to be done. No matter. What? And. Yeah. So I mean. It's just it's it's a really good movie and the soundtrack is fire. So yeah, definitely definitely definitely definitely. He wanna give her a second. Yeah. From late night. Parents. Somewhat serious topic. And we've been seeing it more and more and more and more and. We're seeing people. Falling off cliffs people hurting themselves. And for south e you know. Yeah, I get it. I get it. You know, you wanna be leaning maybe off of a boat or you wanna you know, you want that perfect. You of the pitcher, and guess you using the Sophie, I don't know. But it's troubling. It's troubling that. We're seeing this. And it's it's it's different. It's it's once in a lifetime where hey this accident happened. It it starting to be more the norm. Yeah. You know? Well, I can take was gonna people are not paying attention to their surroundings. Right. Like. It's like a couple of weeks ago. I come to on the maybe three weeks ago. This woman walked out of a club. Or I I don't know if it the club but walked out of a public flavor. I wanna say at the club if I'm if it's not a cub, I Pol guy and stepped into the wrong Uber, right? It wasn't. Even an Uber was some dues car, and you had to house safety locks on in the back. And this is because it's this idea of of people not really paying attention to this around ings kinda like just sleep walking through life like putting some stuff on autopilot. And sometimes like there's video of this unused like online people like look at their phone and walk into a foul in. That's how you know. Silly silly look at what you did. But other times people walk up clips of fall off up and then because a death. Happened. You can't hot right now. You have to look at it look at it more seriously. But at the end of the day, what happened was people were not paying attention in. Yeah. So I think I think that's what it is trying to lean and. Really balanced like lean up against the real. And here's the thing about all of a sudden finding the human body, find yourself in a new balanced paradigm. Right. Let's call it that which means I'm fairly fit and athletic. And I don't mean that in the sense that I can outrace Hussein vault or like, you know, but I'm saying, you know, play some baseball play some football rollerblade, skateboard it. With the jogger was runner. Play Hamble platens. You're all the stuff that we did growing up ca climate trans to the states still I've met people who could not catch a ball, much less. Throw a ball. And it's this is just hand eye coordination thing that you kinda get good advocate. And if you don't do it I've met you could not run they their coordination for running. You know, me them in a bear. I can jog away to safety. You know them running is all motion and no efficiency. So it's you you get into this kind of kind of place where you know, you don't really know the sense of your body when it's not just standing up or sitting down, and you lean against the railing, and if the railing shift, you gotta be like, oh, you know, that moment is you can catch yourself or grabbed you know, like the kid who about the v a rail grab the grad by guy or grab your guy or any of these scenarios. But if you're not if you're not hand eye coordinated body, but I'd say body confident. I don't mean like how you looking at dress. I mean, you know, if someone tosses me something I can avoid it or catch or the it, you know, and if something happens, you can grab the real by. Oh my God. Almost all of that was close that happens. I would say a thousand. At times a day in every neighborhood in America. But one of those thousands people miscalculate and break a wrist break on fall down, and it gets worse as you get older. But when you add that to not paying attention, and you have to be one of those people, I think this is where we get especially when you add alcohol, so like we had this happen a couple of weeks ago with an an older woman who I was like, well, you know, it's the same thing, you you get body body, you get balanced issues, and you know, you're in this place, and I could see a misstep and not being able to to hold yourself up because of age, and like we some arms, I totally get that. But also, you had a twenty three year old woman who fell out of a belltower at Fordham and died, which was tragic, and you know, and then you had a a young women who was drinking alcohol involved in that. And she fell. Overthinking? And I mean that was last week, and you know, a private information. I have a friend who went to a party who fell off a roof. You know, like it was just one of those things where the why are we blaming it on and he fell off a roof? Is it the hall is? Did it every scenario is different. Right. So my friends case, it was a rooftop party. He was he was always the life of the party and the way to story sows is. He just lost his balance. You know? I I want to say on a fire escape or or, but they weren't sitting on the the this was in New York. They weren't sitting on the of of the the the rooftop, but it was kind of like. You know losses. Balance took a step inspecting a little more ground to be there. And it wasn't. And then he tumbled over the the side of the thing. Right. So it's that it's like who I need four feet to recover from this stumble. But I only had like, you know, three and a half. You know what I mean? It's it's sometimes it's that sometimes it's stone drunk in goofiness. And sometimes it's people who are just not paying attention. All things are not equal. So yeah, I mean just because where are standing here facing the Atlantic doesn't mean you got hit by the same way. Right. So they all have these falls. But in the story that I told one was drunk one was a little older. And and I don't want to say in fern, but a little weaker one was just a college kid who was climbing Taba, which I don't even understand how that happens. I think that would become a quarter of coordination. Now, we're talking about people don't have physicality and one was a girl taking a Southie. Who you know what I'm? Mean? So you you get these people who are off in the same hospital room for the same thing. And you don't know what happened and everybody's got different regions how they ended up in the very same position. And I think a lot of it is silly this bad. This bad judgment while I'm going to. Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if you fall off a roof, it's bad judgment. Okay. Oh, so, but yeah, I think look I've I've had my fair share of drinks on Brooklyn rooftops, and I know my level, right? And I remember having to climb up through the ladder back before if you guys don't know Brooklyn buildings, right? Sometimes you can go out to apartment and go up the fire escape, and then climb up onto the roof sometimes have Brownstone, and they have five or skates on the. But sometimes they don't and at the top floor. This sort of of that ladder that you climb up. You flip the trap door up to the roof open. And did you climb all that way? Right. So you always have to watch women in sundresses because it's you know, fundraisers and ladders the y'all get up there. And then you gotta 'cause nobody really supply. To be up there. So there's no. There's nothing for you up there. Like normally if you have a stairwell up to the roof, you have tables and chairs and a place to sit Bob days. Just that's why they call it tar beach. So just par and sometimes in hot some of the target unite stress on your shoe, this thing it skin or this thing. So you only really go up to be like, hey, man. It's eighty degrees and the moon is out and we got some jazz cigarettes and some whiskey. Let's go on up in somebody goes like, yeah. That'd be up to the rooftops. So you get all up there. And you're trying to make you move on these girls girls test to see if your movie be made on them on his rooftop you talk to smoke. You talked his dad new go-to skyline. And you see the full moon that you talk on this thing. And then people always want to go. Let's go over to the edge. And and look over. I gotta tell you. I mean, maybe I'm a square, but if I I've never had that in my. In my DNA to wanna go. Hey, let me go angle we're here. No. But you know, it's it's you know, it's it's like everything like you climb trees before. Right. So yeah, I used to climb trees, and this is how I know my level, right? Some people wouldn't climb trees. Some people would climb to the first thing, but like non good some people will go all the way up to the freaking canopies the very tip top where I'm thinking the branches are weak. I would climb about mid level to just below mid level. And I'm like because I begin to think how am I getting down from here? It's always easy to get in it in the into the problem to get out of the problem is give me and that intrigued just like that. So I would get up. I sure how am I getting out of here? And then my you'd later on that all these kids who were skateboarded to never climbed tree the Inya that stuff, and I was like, oh, and it's it's you know, every generation tests themselves differently, right? Every I don't know about girls. Every generation I'm assuming girls have that way of doing the same kinda like right path is stuff too. But you know, every generation test us up with something. I think the last time we spoke we said down flying down deadman's curve like without touch, then they until. Yeah. Yeah. It's all these kind of like silly things you do as a as a kid. I think I think that let's, you know, a lot about where you are like so like I can get I'm not standing on the the what is the eve of the building looking over. But yeah, I would put my foot on the even give a good glance. But they will always these people who would do stuff like. Like, you know, how people would take you shocked dot shocking, but like abruptly to get you to kind of look like that and grow. I got you like, it's all these people who are always the problem people always play games around around areas. Like this, right. So yeah, you go up there. You talk about with girls you look over. You you see like the Neo safe from different angles of the buses going by with a number on the top of them. You see bird's nest up high up in the canopy, you can look up into like, you know, the rooftop of other buildings and intellect the top floors of like the high building that you normally wouldn't see on the ground floor and be like, wow, they've got like XBox. And this that and all this stuff, and you just talk smoke. People are cooking dinner and used to hand after you're up there for like a half an hour you go back down the ladder. You have more drinks. And that's Jimmy the way it goes. And then the bug gets out that people up there, and then all these people who shouldn't be up there. It's like the VIP action all of a sudden on your roof. Being goofy too close to the edge. And then one takes a stumble. And before you know, it you're talking to the cops about what happened, right? It's who you invite to your party. Everybody always wants to Ogden at where there was sitting on your people at the old, Akiva studio in under in Dumbo sat out all those guys were ever any of those parties. And I remember once having to talk to the cops because I have copy experience because they sound like a squad car up to this warehouse where it was fifteen hundred people partying in in like, the first two Floyds of it, and the neighbors, and they will convert it to apartments then were complaining about, you know, the noise, so yeah, man, it's it's always it's always the idea of a party right in by party. I don't mean a good time trying to meet the car. I mean, a party of people doing something. So you'll have your intelligence people. You're thinking people get your people who are group. Tim silly all in this party as they migrate point point. And in this scenario, I was trying to migrate, you know, the trying to up the level of the party. Oh, man. This party is great. Oh man did for your great. And I met this girl. Oh, man. This is great, Emma. My man a coup girl. Hey, let's get some stuff. Make party extra. Great. Get this jazz cigarette. Get up to the roof of this Brownstone and just us five or six talk about it. In a half an hour later, you've got like twenty people on the roof and ninety being to worry about canvas roofs tolerate twenty people on it as more people wanting to come up, and then you're trying to keep it cool. Now, you got to be the teacher because it was dry d ah. Hey, we'll we'll nobody needs to be dazzling up here. Why you loud it's supposed to be like a Serb pitches thing. And you got all these people who are not native to doing sketchy stuff like, you know, some of us X graffiti, audits word sneak into places, and they're just in New York because they always wanted to. Live in New York from God knows whoever the heck they from. And you know, they ruined the whole vibe. And sometimes this is what you get look at me. I'm ruining the vibe. I'm taking pictures to closer to Ed boom. Wow. Whose friendship who invited her somebody? Call an ambulance. Where's her mother who who's gonna go to the hospital with her? You know, what time who owns this house where the home on? You know, what I mean all these things come up with one person, you know, crashing like, listen, I'm not trying to like situation making nine with with saying this is where it comes from. It's not making library. No, no, no, listen. I'm not trying to make light of the situation. But Britain's win we would say who's managers. Exactly exactly who what you to this set who rose. No. He's got to go, and you can go with them. A lot of this thing in the in like hip hop. Original hip hop. I tell people all the time the stuff you hear on the radio today is rap music. It is not heavy out. Hip hop cultural thing. It's connected to the people. Right. So you may hear a bang your song with rap music in it that is rap music. That is not hip hop. Right. So in hip, hop, if I had a party, and I invited you and you brought six dudes those six do on your good credit. Right. And I'll be like, oh, one of those dudes in fire. He's mad cool. But he becomes an and they did bring somebody that on his credit. What you don't do is bring people to people's parties, which always held that their house who are cleft those and violent. Knuckleheads. And just all around. Ser Kutner excuse my language, you know. And then when all counts breaks, go. Oh, man. I'm no, it's it's on you. We all in the community know this. So when you have wider parties with other cultures you never really know how they get down and other cultures. Like, for example, the idea I've fallen asleep around your I don't know how many times the idea when I went to college that I found out that white kids will fall asleep at a party and other white kids draw on their faces and permanent marker. And how was I thought everybody I know until you like this'll be a police incident, and they were like you need to have its permanent marker. I don't even have a sense of humor. That's crazy. That says I can't trust you in all ways. How did that not say I can't trust you? You know what I mean? It's it. It says things that I love I can't leave around you. You know, what I mean, I can't fall asleep. Where did I know goddamn well by the camp fall asleep around? And you what is going on in this by of bear party community versus our five. Now, we've got stuff in our party community that I'm not a fan of. And I'm sure they'll look at bango what the heck is that? Right. But at the same time it's being introduced to to new let's go to the new paradigm, and and how one gets down with their friends. But then when you do that you go this is my limit. Like, I don't do practical jokes or anybody. Who knows me knows don't pull a practical joke on me. I don't do them. I'm not trying to get even I will curse you out. And that'll be his back went cell phones. We're new right? There was this guy and I used to be a bar guy for like sixteen years played pool. Dead shot dots darks there were just perfect in my speech game at the bars. Like, I'm Socrates, right? So disguised who I knew who just from the bar. I played a couple of games with him bought me a barricade, and I bought him a barricade, and they paid a couple of dogs. Never really had anything comments. I get this phone back in the day was like a new one the new iphones, and he's like, oh, man. That's a new as old again. I cannot get sure. So like, and I don't even know why I don't I don't have anybody by phone anymore. But I haven't had my phone. He looks at it. I think it's in his like thumb do some Lippi flips up, and then he goes hand the docking with a smile on his face. And I look at it and everything in Japanese, and he had gone into the setting and switch the language, right? And he was obviously more adept at computers and stuff. And I was like cook. He knew that that was in there, and I had never. Get that that was in there. And I just looked at them on with change it back, and he like it was a joke, but I wasn't feeling of. And he like it was just a change of back because like all right, man. Don't get just a check. I just kept telling him change it. But every time he began to utter a sentence. I just say change it back. So he did it really quick clip the back, and it was and I looked at it. And I just looked at him. Like, why why would you think you could do you know what I mean, it was an after that day? It will I'm done with them. Right. And it was it was idea of you know, not that. I tolerated him we were in a public place together with for the tolerate each other. We we didn't have anything that made us friends, and we didn't have anything that made us enemy. We were. He was just someone that I knew and and people I knew him. But the fact that he he did this to this thing too high on that was brand new and he was person that. Wasn't that close, and I have these boundary issues because like, you know, black people have little so this is property what you know, all these kind of things played in mind, you that's on top of this being a bar where I'm obviously drinking that night. And all these things had played into that that interaction of of my cultural thing of of I don't know you, but I'm cool with you and his cultural thing of, hey, let me play this practical joke on this guy that I barely know where his thing not knowing that we impractical jokes. Don't get along. I I've seen jokes that I think are cute, but ninety seven I think, I'm mean spirited and dark. Show. So I mean, I told that story because. You know, we we all pushed in in in our our conference old. I guess by by randomness of and it comes out of out of the blue. So how do you have it? Should I punched him in the face dot have been totally. Would that have been appropriate? I'm thinking with the bar late. Yeah. I think totally would have been appropriate. I punched him in the face now that I think about it. But then I'm gonna have until the file well. Well, yeah. Everybody always falls charge. There. Everything's while Christ charges like we knew. When keeping it real gold wrong, right, right? On change. My language is phone. Yeah. Right. But really that's your problems six months in jail. Stupid. Congratulations. You could have went to the hype bumps on had the undo it. I tell young cats all the time. Look, I get standing up and having having the brawl when it's necessary. But I look at this stuff in eighty percent of this stuff is not necessarily, you know, cats talking about our I'll kill her, dude. If you hit the X Y Z, I'm like, you know, what? All right. I mean, it just doesn't make sense to me if I'm killing dues, you know, you'd better had affected a woman in my family. You know what I'm saying? Where when I'm standing up in court. The jury goes back that makes perfectly good sense to me versus you know, he's dating my ex. We're kind of nonsense are these, you know, and they're always the same type of character always the same type of character. Anyway, that was that was my I'm off that rent. It'd be moving. The Capital One saver card you in four percent cashback on dining and undertake -ment. That's four percent cashback on we scream for ice cream. I was very and four percent while you're screaming at the amusement parks. The Capital One saver card earned four percent on dining and for percents on entertainment. Now when you in the family, go out you cash it capital. What's in your wallet? Terms apply. Kevin one Bank USAA getting tired of your lunch options change it up with Vittal Caesar's hot and ruby lunch combo. Well, we the winds of change voice slices pepperoni deep. Deep dish pizza, plus twenty streaked now for only four bucks. Good by here you going. 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eps.003 - Tim Pace - #1 Rated Author For Bitcoin On Trading View, Crypto Coin Trader
"<music> what's up everybody ready. Welcome to bitcoin radio. This is the bitcoin our i'm your host joe blackburn and i'm so proud and so excited to have on ten pace that he's going to be joining us shortly split kind of a good week for everybody nobody for the last seven days now that we've seen this bob and hold into the eleven thousands and we're going to talk a little bit about that today baby if i can get him to agree <hes> but nevertheless let's go ahead and get started. I'll go ahead and introduce tim. Tim wants you say hello. Hey what's going on everybody. It's good to be here glad to have you on him. Tim you've kind of gotten a little bit of notoriety recently. Oh you were <hes>. The subject of a part of the conversation between me and jeff flake is from c._i. And <hes> you know obviously what you've been doing. This kind of taken hold hasn't it. Yeah it really has joel <hes> very very encouraged by the following have and you know by the progress. I've made and people are learning right along with me and it's a good thing tim. I kind of feel like your journey. Your are your experience over. The last three months is one that is like how how people get big right. I was thinking about this yesterday and we talked on the phone yesterday and <hes> and when we when when you first started this and when i as sort of watching you it's like do they could make a movie out of this guy. One navy turns out to be like the next genius. You know it's interesting stuff while i appreciate that joe immune to live coming from you but no doubt brother okay tim. Why don't we start before we even get into like the whole story. Let's just start with. What do you do right now like right now. You are a moderator on c. c. T. and let's kinda start about from the beginning like how did you. How did that happen for you from your perspective started posting c._c. T the my main goal was was to not hinder anyone like whenever i saw new person posting i went out on my way to help them in <hes> you know i think that started my journey. Crypto crypto was my desire to help people and it's also transferred into the trading but time progress y'all were looking for new mod- and you called me one day a and i was i didn't even volunteer for the job. I didn't think i had a chance but whenever you call me. I was very her memory and you know i was. I appreciate associated to call. It meant a lot so <hes> whenever i became a lot i took it serious and i figured i better create some good content and show him. I mean business <music> now tim. I remember very clearly like most people don't even know this. They won't remember it but <hes> maybe a few of you will but i'd made a post that we were actually looking for another moderator. You're in crypto coin trader and i had aren't we actually were looking for too. I think and your use specifically he was one of the people i knew for fact wanted like would want the position right and then i looked everywhere i didn't get like from you. I didn't get a comment. I didn't get anything. I was like way else. Talkative barlow's like been. Tim didn't because we knew him. It already talked about you. Tim didn't even acknowledge the post. Maybe he doesn't wanna do that. Kind of stuff you know and i was like i don't know i'm i'm still gonna talk to him. I at least gotta give them a chance to say no to me. I mean i'll at least do do that and so i called you. I was like i think what i said to you initially was tim. Why didn't you even like respond to back to the post of you're interested in a reason why i saw a few people that really respected and i think they were really joking but one of them volunteered to be ahmad so i stepped back because i was like well. I really respect her so but she would joking joking. So i mean you had told me that over the phone so it was one of those things where i kinda backed off because i have a lot of respect for the vets in this community and in but it worked out for the best. You know i mean i didn't want to. I don't know why i didn't comment. I should have commented. I really did want to be the mo b ahmad well it. It worked out great for both of us. I think and we'll we'll take that into the next subject and you know tim. I'm going to kind of process a little bit so just give me a second is that i i really want everybody to listen to tim story tonight and and really take it seriously like tim did not join c. as a traitor he didn't even join as has a moderator as a true trader he was just somebody who enjoyed crypto was very active probably thought he no. He knew a little bit but he was very very. I'm sure that he didn't know a lot of it and i think it's fair to say how to yeah for sure joe. That's perfect wakes. Put it fortunately i've got a chance to know you pretty well over the last year or so but <hes> but it took several months for for although tim you jump right in you became a great moderator and very active and very involved in and very thorough and the expectations -tations that we have for moderators <hes> and you know. I don't think outside of just some some pointers. Maybe some feedback. I don't think we've ever had any disagreements or even moderately like harsh conversations. We know it's been a great journey joe it. I enjoyed every minute of it me too. <hes> i absolutely agree with that statement but something happened about three three and a half three months ago somewhere between there where tim come just took the reins himself and said i'm gonna learn a trade. He was tired and i'm. I don't want to speak for ten too much. Everybody was tired of just not knowing what to do and we'll get that from his own words. I know the story very well. <hes> so obviously tim. I don't mean to tell your story for you especially while you're on the call but <hes> but nevertheless tim tim went out of his way to publicly <hes> explain to everybody that he didn't know what he was doing and that he wanted to learn a trade and thus began the hashtag w._t. Not f i d k which means what the do i know right right. That's right. That's right you know the. I started and i wanted to make sure everybody knew i. I didn't really know what i was doing. So that's why i started adding that to my post. Nobody really cared at the beginning. I mean actually started trying to post charts long before three three months probably about six months ago but it took months before i actually started even getting a understanding of what to do you know that was my that was my goal was us to post a chart and get ridiculed for it and learn from that ridicule and if it were to you know <hes> i think the community really took hold once they started learning and they saw me learning and they were like oh we've seen this guy go from absolutely horrible to somewhat decent. You know and i have a lot of people thanks for that but it's been a very intriguing journey absolutely tim well. I'll i'll i'll say this about you to tim is that your persistence to learn has has been unmatched. As far as i'm concerned you know <hes> i. It's not easy for people folks listening. It's not easy for people to put themselves out there in the crypto space <hes> the moment you say something or the moment you say you don't know something. Oftentimes you know you're held accountable to that like forever and <hes>. Tim took a quite different approach which i would even say one of the most unique po post <hes> that i remember that you've written kind of overview. The entire thing that we're talking about right now tim but that post to me was was very endearing and very impressive for many different reasons but essentially said this again. This isn't word for word but it was that you know my name and i don't know what the hell i'm doing and i'm gonna learn to trade and i wanna i do and i want you guys to learn with me. You know i don't remember the specifics. I just remember that was the context and that's what you meant and i loved it to him and you didn't. You didn't even get it approved by me or anything you you just said. I'm doing this and i was immediately. Attached immediately wanted to follow you myself and thought. How awesome is this journey going to be tim. What was the inspiration behind this. I know we kind of touched base on a little a bit but let's let's specifically talk about. What made you eventually say this. You know i was talking to some people one day on facebook just having a regular chat and they we started talking about trading a bit and it was like a in the comment section of a crypto page and <hes> you know they started using terms like m._a. Moving average and i didn't know what m._a. Was and i was really embarrassed to even ask them so you know it was just a it was time for me to learn some of the basics of t._a. Okay so. I didn't look like such a fool when i was talking to people because i've been in industry awhile and people have seen me progress but just haven't taken the time to learn that side of it so whenever i decided i'm going to learn this and i'm going to learn at least the basics and just went from there. You know i said you know this is actually more interesting than i thought it would be so just started posting charts and getting feedback and the feedback really helped me grow from c._t._o. The members of the c. c. t. a. lot because all of their different styles has molded me into the trader. I am today for sure town. I think that was a great way to explain it to and <hes> and i'll say this to the audience is that what most people forget about ten is that tim has not had any. There was never a point when tim's like. I'm gonna do this for fame. You don't know you don't realize the humbleness. This guy possesses and i've had to like convince him at times. You know that he deserves serves. The attention i think even right now like your your charts temp for even though you're just learning and based off of all the things that you've gone through the last has three and half months and obviously the progression has been fantastic but you're nowhere near great trader yet. You yourself admitted you know you're getting better. You know i know you feel comfortable with where you're at and you can kind of go into detail on that in a second but i know for a fact that you don't ever have never thought that you're ready like think you even think that even remotely yet. I think you know you can go and do things but you're still missing a whole bunch and i say that to the audience for this reason is that i've had to convince him that. This is a story. We're telling i've had to convince him that he's he's doing something. That's that's really special and the results have showed set or have showed that because who's the number one bitcoin author. I now trading view heisenberg b._t._c. e oh really you're the number one bitcoin author for trading view. That's the truth is the truth for the last three weeks. At least yes and how the heck does something like that happen heisenberg you know i think it's mainly because of my analysis. I try to be myself when i explained the charts and i think a lot of people appreciate that there. I'm not trying to blow smoke up. Anybody's you know i'm just trying to explain how i feel about certain things i see on the chart and and you know and people could see me progressing growing and i've noticed my following whenever i became top author might followers went from less than a hundred to a thousand and twenty overnight yes and it was just amazing to see the response you know and tim and i know this about you know you have have felt undeserving of that attention but you recognize that that that stager now on and people have really been attracted to this journey including myself. Obviously we're friends but i've also watch this from audience member not as just your friend is someone who's who's been very fond and very proud of your progression but also learning myself. You know there's a lot of things that i've learned through either you that i was able to reaffirm that i didn't know to using that way or if i if i just simply didn't know something at all right and i think that you brought attention to this in a way that has not been done before that also you know that there's a reason why you didn't want bitcoin author trading view and i think it's because of your interaction interaction and how much time you spend with the comments in the comments commenting people but also you're right and <hes> you know i spent a lot of time with my <hes> followers on trading as well when they comment on my charts. I'm always willing to converse with them and i think they appreciate that as well. Everybody's you could tell well i mean <hes> people are starting to post their charts on my comment section to get attention so you know it's it's flattering but at the same time i know i still have a lot to learn so i wanna take this one step at a time. I don't want anybody to think that when i posted chart that you know this is from a very experienced trader and you know get messages all the time that as the you know ask for my help asked for my assistance and stuff and i'm just not ready for that you know <hes> i'm take this one step at a time and you know start start from the bottom and go up absolutely and that's your responsibility right just like your mind or anybody else's to admit when you don't know something and to make sure that people recognize tim that that you're doing this as a learning experiment as much as anything else. It may not be experiment to you but but you are you're aware of this is an experiment that is happening for your followers and this is another point. I wanna make sure that the audience is listening in really pays attention to is this is that you know no matter if he's great he's bad at ta no matter if he's not progressing at the same rate as he was a month ago or slows down and where he gets to it's the interaction and the ability to watch and learn and be aware that these are the simple mistakes these mistakes that are common. These are mistakes that are hard to identify. You're all those conversations are happening. Underneath those charts that you're posting you know not every partner not every chart blows up the same way not every chart gets as much attention as the other one before but but it's that that sequence of events that leads to that pop or that sequence of events that leads to that drop right and that's when you can kind of go back and say hey tim has been talking about the potential of this happening happening or he missed this one bad because of this reason and then you go back through and you say hey i miss this right. It's that journey. That is so incredibly engaging. You know it's just it's it's a different. It's a different way of of learning in. It's it's live. It's been happening in real time. Yeah i agree joe in you know every time i posted charton i i had no has potential. Nobody wrong and i know i have the potential to be ridiculed and i'm willing to accept that you know that's part of though as part of the journey you know you try your best to avoid it but an also helps you sharpen your senses. You know you just don't want it way. A chart down and everybody see you're wrong by amr. Guess what i'm gonna learn from. It and i'm gonna go mama and that's all there is to it so yeah. You're also not hiding from it either correct correct. I always admit when i'm wrong. I'll come to that chart and say well. I was way the off here and you know. I think most people are are they. They recognize that you know that you're not posting something that supposed to predict and b. b. b. b. right. I mean notes coach. No trader or know charter is going to be right all the time no matter if you're the best charts in the world or you're a beginner you're going to be wrong. Sometimes and you know i think any any of the the the people got a following your charts. They they obviously recognize. You know that you are still learning because you tell them and you remind them so often. But what would you say like the most common things that you're hearing from these people. Are you making the same mistakes are do you feel like people are actually learning the most common thing people ask me or that. I come mm across seems to be. You know just people asking basic questions about t._a. Like why is this line here or why. Did you do this here. What is this what is the fifth naci for instance and you know it's a it's just the basic things that you learn as you progress and you know that's one reason why we mean ben started a t._a. Group where we're teaching beginners the wage trade and we just started it like last week week and we're at the beginning but we are progressing were teaching. Some people just the basics of t._a. You know that's all i can really teach so tribuna know what a moving moving averages an m._a. Like i said that's what i was. That's really i remember somebody telling somebody else in may during a conversation i said what the heck is the m._a. And i just didn't ask them because i look like four and there's a lot of people liked the inner worry to ask in a open forum like c. c. t. i think sometimes because because there were they think they're going to get ridiculed and it's not allies. Sometimes people are trolls and you know it's. I want people to understand. I'm not going to ridicule them for asking missile questionably yeah and i think there's a big distinguish you can you can distinguish what you're doing and which what somebody who's giving signals or trading advice. That's not what you're doing and i've i've been privileged to hear you conversation and been part of some of them about like the goals of this group that you're doing and you know it is for beginners and it's just the foundations. It's what is resistance. What is what does support trend line. It's the basic core principles to prepare you to learn a trade and i know that when i made that post tha ah to gauge the interest how big was that. How big was that response to man i think i think there were six hundred comments total. It was out of that. I could not believe how many people responded. I was overwhelmed yeah. It was passed six hundred. I think even got cross seven hundred at some point but yeah i i completely agree. I was actually really expecting two hundred three hundred you know engagements. I mean if you include likes and loves and and hearts and probably laughing faces it was it was probably well over at one point five thousand reactions of some capacity and you know there. There's there's no substitute to affirmation than engagement that way and it was a testament and people more like it was like your elvis presley walking around. You know like they were. They couldn't wait to hear from him and to be part of this group and we made it clear that we were going to try to keep that group around twenty five people. I think we're just around thirty just because there was so much a response we try to. We try to keep it <hes>. We don't want to be a we didn't want to exclude people that we know are we where we have certain relationships with and i know mr frederick frederick mayer racist hand to <hes> to to ask if he could also assist help with group at <hes> the point i'm making here is that you know the idea of just creating a foundational experience for someone who wants to learn to trade is a really important one and i really commend you and ben for stepping out and saying hey let's start with the basics and give these people an opportunity at least for the first twenty five people you know and i know the idea behind that keeping his mind too if you ask while twenty by people number one this is dubbed no charge and this is this is to help create an educated enough mind to take the next step into trading when you leave this group i i. I'm gonna speak for tam embiid barlow. Who's not on the call but i'm going to speak for a year for for a couple different reasons but we really need to make a disclaimer here. The idea is that you're not going to get the signal and make money the ideas not that you're going to be equipped to be a great trader. The idea is that you understand the terminology and a enough to know oh. This is where you get started at this. This is how i can go learn now. I'm prepared to at least understand the conversation which is very different than what most traitors experienced when they first start. Would you agree. Yes absolutely that's why i mean i started six months ago and i didn't even get a grasp of it until three months ago and i got a lot of help from the community utah blackburn ashra lston ernie bills all those people stepped up to home and i really appreciate everything they've done for me and if you know but it took a long time for me to get it because i did a lot of it on my own and with the if i would have had a class like this one i think it would have ushered mean to where now much faster agreed. That is an obstacle. That is very hard to overcome as you just admitted. You know what's an m._a. Like you don't even know where to i mean you might be able to go and even google search. It sure you go google search ah but then then what do you do with that information. You know there's a lot of things that indicators and names and words that need to be understood as a group to be able to truly take this seriously and you know identifying and then even becoming comfortable with what these words are actually doing or what they mean is probably in my opinion as someone who went through this myself at one point is probably the hardest part to get past. It's just that that learning curve of learning curve of what do i do with this information. Okay i know i know the fifty day. Moving average is now now. What do i do with it and although you're not going to sit there and you in both aren't gonna sit there and be like okay because this happened now. You're going to go long. Congratulations us made a little money. No absolutely not as much as people might like those things because people don't wanna work hard you wanna reward the ones who we're willing to work who are really really excited about this and who are about to put themselves in a position to at least have that foundation of knowledge to get started to the next step and like you mentioned you ashra olsen todd blackburn right these are people that have been instrumental might personal growth as well so to have people like that to look up to and you know obviously i know todd's videos were pretty inspirational to to to hunt him. Yeah absolutely joe. I remember watching one said the most important lesson for a traitor to know. I think that's what the name aim was. I remember when i watched it. I couldn't even stop. I had to stop watching halfway because i got so excited i rancho trading view and add to go play with the charge a little bit i was i was lost until i watched that video sure and that's something that we need a riposte and see steve pretty soon but <hes> i may even put it in the comments for anybody who who listens because i agree that i remember that video very very clearly and i know also that that tied <hes> he he's been kind of <hes> talking about potentially moving his channel away from from youtube to which would mean that won't be available bony more but you might wanna watch while you can't in other words people <hes> but we'll kind of shift a little bit tim to this part in that. Is you know what are your expectations of of what you've done like foundation that you personally built right and now you're helping other people. What do you think this what's next for you. Where where do you think this is. Gonna take you you. You know joe <hes>. I'm really playing it by ear because i haven't been doing it that long. But you know have a lot of things in mind you know. I'd like to help people more as i grow but i'm not in a rush to do more advanced training because i still need my own. I still need my own experience. Experience only comes through time so i'm i'm going to need to gain some experience by looking at charts and it's gonna take a long time before i'm always confident enough to start a more advanced class for technical analysis analysts were i actually you know something like todd would for instance but <hes> for right now you know <hes> taken in one day at a time a ah taken as far as i can gio. I really didn't expect a response. I have right now and <hes> it's overwhelming but it's flattering at the same time and <hes> i'm i. I'm enjoying every minute of it so my plans are to keep enjoying it and <hes> as long as i keep enjoying it and maybe i could make some money owning it too but that's my main goal on my main goal is to help others in enjoy and if the money comes that's great absolutely you know that brings brings up a good point. Tim and this is something i profess for very long time right now. Is that a lot of cryptos bic. Bitcoins issues are the lack of understanding and everything not just like you know how to trade but it's just an uneducated in very immature market now if you look at from from that today's date compared to twenty seventeen eighteen. We look like you know a little bit more grown up. I would say that i would i would even go as far as we've matured at an exponential rate the same way that bitcoin has matured. It's there's there's was another step each way and you're always going to attract in this industry right now. You're going to track people who may not be here for the right reasons and that's that happens in anything where there's an opportunity to make money potentially but overall the communities are becoming way more aware of what's right and wrong. The influencers are being you know being being held very accountable as they should you know i know i had to grow and i know i needed. I needed to mature in my own development and my own presentation of of my thoughts and from twenty sixteen twenty seventeen where it was. You know what's next coyne. I'm going to buy it's now more of an ideology. I have watched the space. Get get more and better prepared and <hes> for really i'd say since really the beginning of the bear market when real realistic expectations began to kind of settle in to where we were and that these these all coins weren't going to go up for forever. It was very easy to be right in two thousand seventeen. It was very easy to be wrong in two thousand eighteen. Even the people who typically i would say are always right the ones that actually know what they've been doing. Those people took a hard hit and you know. Some of them lost their credibility. Some of them deserve to lose credibility but a lot of them. You know were especially ones ends up with it for the right reasons. They had a very hard twenty eighteen and you know it helped. It helped a lot of people to understand. Don't be relying on person. Don't you dare just by something without doing your own research wjr and you better make sure and i'm going to say this. I'm going to be very careful how i say it but you better make sure that you take responsibility you know and people don't want wants to place blame right. They like to not be wrong. They like it to be somebody else's fault. They like just cycle psychologically. They want to not be at at fault for their mistakes. Now twenty seventeen and beginning of two thousand eighteen it was it was it was just trusted everybody right. I mean if they've been right a couple at the time boom. I it's worth. It's worth the risk but then everybody was a lot of people would be a little bit disappointed. You know a as two thousand eighteen world around. Wouldn't you say tom yeah you know in twenty seventeen you throw a dart in with the blindfold on a hit a i._c._o. Or hit a a coin that was going to multiply fifty times you know and it was just an amazing time when i when i first got in i got in november. Two thousand seventeen and i put some money in bitcoin a._t._m. And atoll it all. I started for me but you know i really didn't find out much about alz until all season was over but it was still very exciting. You know i remember member road bullish huge back then even the people at my work. We're talking about people that never talk about. Cryptocurrency was talking. We're talking about ripple and i was always intrigued by when i was a ah still new back then you know what i was looking for the next <hes> you know get rags to riches coin. Sir ripple did do that. That's for sure you're right. You know twenty eighteen was more of a <hes> defining year. I think if you stuck around and you hung out through twenty eighteen urine my respect addict agreed that when we fall in that category and we have a lot of friends that did influence or not i mean moderators are not a lot of really great people especially in the c._c. Community but i mean other communities say like jeff's over that time period thomas a lot i think especially as the trading side goes you. You know if you're a good trader you could you could still make money you know where a lot of the holders. They suffer tremendously and i'm. I'm way more of a holder than i am. A traitor and i'm still feeling the effects of that whereas has trades sometimes great. Sometimes i did not so great but i was still doing something you know. The holding was just constantly negative for the entire year. I mean there was no success in twenty eighteen and that carried over until early twenty nineteen where before we broke out of that bear the bear market correct correct in february. Actually i think it was february february eighteenth when it started turning around by the way for the record on january six. I made a post. It's still out there. I said i personally believe in my opinion that winter is over so only post xybernaut about one or being over and i call it on that day now actually think that i knew that a couple of days before i think there were indicators. I don't want to like i'm no. I'm not but i could feel the tide turning in like you said in february we finally did there's some signs of life and then when we broke out of that that <hes> what was it we had to break thirty eight hundred or forty two hundred. I can't remember now thirty two hundred yeah we went way down thirty two hundred that's for sure but when when it had gone back up i think once we broke through like forty two hundred or something like that i think there was a little bit of like really early like glimmers of hope at that point and i can't remember what actually was the price when we actually broke out of the bertrand but regardless we did to him and we're here now. We're sitting at eleven and a a half. Ish you know what's what's next bitcoin do. What do you think i mean without giving numbers you know. I think there's a lot of room for bitcoin to grow. I'm a very big fan of bitcoin bitcoin. You know i've done over one hundred coin reviews and a bitcoin is the only coin i touch so i should tell you right there. I don't trust all all coins as much you know it doesn't trade him but my main goal is to obtain more sats nothing more if i'm gonna trade all at all. I'm gonna use it for. I think bitcoin is going to grow. It's going to grow very big. It's going to be like gold in my eyes. I don't think it's going to be a medium of exchange. It could be whitening network catches on but i mean that's that's a whole different podcast but <hes> absolutely you know the i think at the end of the day bitcoin gold in the fact that is the store of value and if it if if if it turns out to be historic value i think bitcoin wins dude. Were on the exact same page. I don't even think that it worked and it. It doesn't even need to work as a means of payment. You know there's there's plenty of opportunities and i think stable coins will pr- probably own that department but like you said to me. Bitcoin is digital gold. It's very cliche to say but there's absolutely no doubt my mind that it serves the purpose of a store of value in that department then does better than a ah cryptocurrency in in means of payment. It just doesn't have to do that to be successful. You know it's limited. It's finite. It's decentralized. We need to have value away from governments away from stable coins which tend to sometimes be be more manipulated than they they are stable and we we see that with the dollar the u._s. Dollar is supposed to be stable able in theory to an extent but inflates you know why because they print more money and you know when you have something like tether which is stable. It's honored as such but can contenders contenders contenders mode of <hes> of of printing actually sustain. You know i mean what if it goes back down at all that teller's leftover over what's going to happen to it right. I mean it's the same concept that same principle in which we deal with the u._s. Dollar <hes> you know. I don't want to get on the u._s._r. Bashing incident because i am an american and i use u._s. Dollars hours all the time but it'd be crazy not to admit that there's some big holes and faults in it and is that success of the u._s. are sustainable. You know that's one reason why i love. Bitcoin bitcoin is that we know there's only going to be twenty one million bitcoin ever minted and or mind. I'm sorry and it's nothing are the u._s. Dollar is just printed nonstop. It seems like and there's no accountability. There's a lot of accountability with bitcoin. We know exactly how it's gonna work. Mathworks works wonderful and big point is a perfect example of that absolutely absolutely and i know we both we both share that same conceptual -ality of what critics chr crypto and specifically bitcoin can do for for this planet <hes> but let's and we kinda sidestep a little bit here too because this is one of my favorite topics you know we we have politics that go on we have you know wars and <hes> disagreements between nations but the one thing that always comes down to is money and when you can offer a more simplistic simplistic and fair actually simplistic may not be the right word but a more fair means of <hes> of transferring wealth whether it be from country to country or person to person without without the need of the government to oversee this you know of course we all know the governments don't like the idea of bitcoin they would. It would be bad for them in a lot of ways right so business. Eh governments make a lot of money and taxes in other ways <hes> that i won't get into a method moments <hes> but it's a topic that i enjoyed talking about and like you said that's almost almost another podcast in itself. Yeah you're right joe. It's a there's a lot we could go over on that subject and we'll have to do at some point because i like doing it as well going back to kind of the purpose of like highlighting you in this podcast. Tim is <hes>. Let's let's give the audience a little bit of things to to kind of to oversee or at least you know. Give them some insight into what that ta group that you and i are going to be doing on that small small audience that you guys are put in that group. What is it like. What would you say is your number one priority as far as you know the knowledge that you're going to be sharing well. I want these people. They come a lot of these. People are coming into this group. Some of them have bearing knowledge and <hes> <hes> you know they're but they're still basically beginners. That have no idea how to read h._r. Properly and that's what my goal is is when they leave this class. I want them to be able to look at a chart with confidence and understand that what they're doing is what other traders are doing. What it's all about. It's like to me trading is like like a pack animal kind of thing where for everybody does basically the same thing and we come to the same results and that's why trading works because it's a self fulfilling prophecy and <hes> you know i want these people to understand dan that when they look at a chart they need to be able to identify a trend be able to throw him a nazi on there and be confident what they did feminine auntie through on there is right. You know a lot of people ask me. That is my fibonacci place right or you know what i mean. I want them to be able to be confident that they did it right. You know i think another good point that that i should make here is that this is all still so fresh on your mind you know if you've been trading for six years and you're going wanna teach new person you might be a great teacher may be very natural for that person to be able to explain to a new person but a lot of really good traders. They never went a lot of them. Don't have time to help you and number two when they do help you. They may have forgotten what those early obstacles may have been and they they may forget that this is important or the way that these things need to be explained is so so much more simplistic them. You're explaining it <hes> or that. You're missing something completely altogether right and i think with your experience and how recent is and your success you know that this is something that that will come very natural and easy for you because that's what's been on the forefront of your mind from day one correct i guess fresh on my mind joe love sharing the knowledge i have have so far and <hes> you know have enough knowledge to teach people enough to get them on chart and have a little confidence so <hes> with with ben in my back but i had a lot more experience than me so we're making a good team and we're gonna make a good course and <hes>. Hopefully i plan on doing this more than once so i know that a lot of people were kinda bummed out. They didn't make the first class but i mean we will likely do this again. We're trying to make content that we can share over and over. You know what i mean so <hes> don't <hes> don't tread don't be upset. You will get your chance pressure man and as we wind down this giveaway for the bitcoin radio <hes> <hes> launch you know it's been really special to me that the support that i've had from the community i know that we both share that same sentiment because you're dealing with a a lot of the support that you've gotten and it really motivates you. So <hes> i appreciate you coming on and helping support meantime. You've always been one of the <hes> the the people several of you of course. I don't wanna leave any out but you've definitely in that group. That's always had my back in been encouraging for me to do this because sometimes the same way that you don't realize why. Are you doing this kind of the reason why you know i have some more thoughts. I don't know if i'm really that good at what i do right. I have a lot of confidence at this point and i will admit podcast very different than just do my videos in front of the audience that i'm so oh comfortable with and and know how to entertain and also i feel like half my half my values just watching me look like a fool. I'm video. You know it's fun <hes> but nevertheless man. I can relate played a lot with you tim well. I never miss your lives joe. You are a good you're good. You're good on camera. I appreciate that and also it. I'll even goes far to say like you know that's. That's something that i know for a fact that i wasn't always good at doing. I wasn't always great at that and you know. I just had to do it right and it's the same thing that you had to do. You had to just get out and do it. Start taking it more seriously and start preparing yourself and you did matt and the success that you gained from that. Tim is not just as irving. I can't think of a better person to to to be doing how you're doing. It like you're the only person i've ever seen in my life and i'll even go as far as to say this house. Has there ever been anybody starting brand. New you like the way that you have and i still consider you brand new to the big the big picture here <hes> end up being the number one author bitcoin and trading view. You know i don't know anybody somebody joe. I i get kinda. I don't like to brag but you know. I did go to number one pretty quick and it was a humbling doing just see my name that high and you. You're the first person to admit you're not number one because you know exactly what you're doing. I think i think you <hes> you kind of pegged at your. You know your number one because you care right. I think people pick up on that and you know also my analysis is a really genuine in a way so. I think that they appreciate appreciate the way i describe the charts and you know it's just it's developed a good following so i'm very implicit and i'm. I'm happy to see where this goes absolutely do all right so i'm gonna wind it down from here tim. Let's let's make sure we end though and and you can tell everybody where to find you. Okay yeah you so you can follow me on facebook <unk> tempest t- i._m. P._a._c. and <hes> or you can follow me on trading view. It's heisenberg b._t._c. so if you want to follow me on trading that's where most of my followers are also on twitter. You can follow me at ten thirty. That's my handle. No underscores no anything you think no no ten thirty on twitter you know the cool thing about tim basis twitter. Is that all his trading view charts. They actually get posted it to twitter. He's got. He's got got a saint up so i followed him on. There and i'm very grateful makes it easy for me to know kinda. Get alert when ten posts so. I can go see what he's doing next. You know even though i see it on facebook to see it in all areas but i also support you to tim. I appreciate that joe yeah. I post to charter d._n._c. c._t. That's my sometimes more sometimes more yeah man. I'm really grateful for that to who tim i know the community appreciates it all right anyways tim. Thanks a lot for coming on bitcoin radio. It means a lot that you're listening. I hope you really enjoyed today's podcast. It means a lot to me to have. Have someone like tim. Come on as i've said before he's a friend he's been instrumental to some of the recent success of c. c. t. he's poured heart and soul and he does it for free. He does it because he cares. He wants bitcoin to be successful. He wants to be successful. Some people argued people folks and you're and you're listening tempests. Who's one of those people tam. Thanks again man. Hey it was great being on his show joe dude. It's my pleasure. It'll happen again. We're following you closely tam and can't wait to see what happens next. I look forward to be on again absolutely all right the radio they scan. We'll see you next time. 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"From NPR and WBZ I'm Robin. Young. I'm Jeremy Hobson. It's here now tonight at the Democratic National Convention Joe, Biden's running mate Comma Harris will accept her historic nomination to the Ticket Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will also speak and last night we to look at two competing wings of the Party a longtime ago. It's ancient history now but again, Bill, Clinton was introduced to the country with a yawn inducing lengthy convention speech last night former President Bill Clinton was the elder getting right to the point comparing Biden's leadership abilities with President Trump's. If you WANNA president who defines the job is spending hours a day watching TV and Zapping. People on social media is your man and progressive newcomer Alexandria Cossio Cortez with her one minute speech seconding the nomination of former Biden rival Bernie. Sanders laid out her vision for the party left her supporters demanding more airtime asthma holidays, NPR national political correspondent, asthma would you were you struck by this old guard New Guard we seem to be seeing last night it yet robin I will say I don't know that it's even just unique to last night. The overall tone that the conventions taken so far has been one I would argue that many young young Democrats are saying is just too much nostalgia for them. There aren't very many. Convention speakers at all under the age of forty. Representative Alexandro Cossio Cortez was one of them and they certainly wanted her to have more speaking time but some of them have also expressed frustration that there are just interview too many Republicans or you know some former Republicans. Who are getting airtime at the expense of some of the younger leaders of the Party and and that extends even in their view to you know what we saw, when had a seventeen person keynote speech that you had all of these young rising stars condensed into one keynote speech and when you have that, how can you really have a breakout moment for a young rising star? The way that we did see Barack? Obama have in two thousand and four. It. was like a chorus line. Well, Oku Cortez spoke of the causes she feels where elevated by the Progressive Movement in the Party listen in fidelity and gratitude to amass. People's movement working to establish twenty-first-century social, economic and human rights including guaranteed healthcare higher education living wages, and labor rights for all people in the United. Well. So what do you think happens here, asthma is this a projection of the power these young progressives might have. If Harris and Biden win because also the other element here is that Republicans are using. As a Cudgel against the Democratic Party sure right and I recognize that there is a liability in. Perhaps thinking that they might be over exposing themselves to the sort of concerns that the trump administration or that. Republicans have around some of the more left progressive wings of their party. But but I would say you know whether or not. It's a see. There has been a pretty steady chorus among young voters and I would say this predates even the convention a frustration that they feel that the Biden campaign has not been reaching out to them so much. I, mean one of the. More outspoken people have seen recently on twitter. She was actually the millennial youth vote director for the Hillary Clinton campaign and she feels extremely frustrated that the biting campaign has not reached out to young persuadable voters and they just don't feel like the outreach has been there by the Democratic Party to elevate and contact these young voters. So what this will mean in the future you know who knows I also thought it was interesting that one of the young people we did hear from yesterday. WAS JFK's grandson for many of these young voters. That's not exactly who they see at this point it's kind of the beacon of the future of their party. A. Mutual political called Joe Biden's address the speech of the night a passionate defense of her husband for rising above the deaths of his first wife and young daughter in that car crash years ago, and then recently after the death of their son Boda brain cancer. I know that we entrust this nation to Joe. He will do for your family what he did for ours. Bring, US together and make us whole. Carry US forward in our time of need. Keep the promise of America for all of us. Asked me your sense of how she came across. You Know Robin she is really the most effective character witness that Joe Biden has, and I think that that is what we heard from her last night. She didn't spend an extensive amount of time I don't believe she had all even mentioned Donald Trump by name her focus was to emphasize the qualities and traits that her husband could bring to the presidency and as we heard there, she suggested that he is a man of good character who she believes it'd be able to stitch a country back together again. Asthma. We just a few seconds but. Kamala Harris speaking tonight I think we can expect her to mention Donald Trump. I would imagine. So that is often the job of the running mate is to be that prosecutor as she as she has been and to make the case that the Democrats. Will be able to defeat Donald Trump, and some of his weaknesses that the Democrats have been trying to highlight. So I anticipate you will probably hear quite a bit about US Mahala national political correspondent for NPR thank you. You're welcome. Was Job losses, mount and many of those with jobs continue to work remotely nearly one fifth of US Office. Space is expected to be vacant next year that's according to a new forecast from Moody's analytics out this week. Victor. Kellogg is head of Commercial Real Estate Economics for Moody's joins US now on skype. Welcome. Thanks for having me well, and what do we know so far about The pandemics impact on Commercial Real Estate? Interestingly, it's really hitting some property types much harder than others I. Don't think it's going to be a surprise for me that share that retail and hotel are being hit disproportionately harder for performance metrics in sectors like multifamily and office. It looks like the distress not quite there yet although there are some cracks appearing in the system, we'll get yet. Sounds like the operative word because I imagine a lot of businesses that are using office space are waiting and seeing what happens before they decide whether they're going stay in that office space or give it up with that's exactly right and I think some businesses have already made decisions for example, Rei that was building a massive eight Acre campus in the Pacific northwest build the suit for their. Organization employees basically decided to walk away and said, we're going to put the property up for sale, and so I do think that the evolution of office space will happen a little bit more slowly asked Lisa's get renegotiated. But yeah, there's a lot of companies out there really thinking about, Hey, do I really need this much office space now that we've proven that we can work from home? So when will we know do you think or what? What are you forecasting in terms of when we will know what is going to really happen with office space I do think that the next twelve to eighteen months will be telling a lot of companies are trying to get back to the office I. Think a lot of folks are realizing that there's a big benefit to work in side by side in an urban setting, right but will they be able to sustain this kind of working environment if reinfection occur There will likely be lawsuits from employees thinking that they were unduly pressured into. Colton. Go back to work how do you handle that right and so there's a whole host of complications preventing. Employees from returning to the offense and our estimate is that there will likely be only between twenty to twenty five percent for example of office workers returning to New York. City. By the end of the year, that's the largest office market in the country I'm telling you it's likely going to be seventy, five percent empty, and if it's seventy, five percent empty that means fewer people going to all of the businesses outside the offices for lunch are we're going to be seeing that or are we already seeing retail space on the streets in cities start to go vacant? Yeah. It's really under assault particularly for restaurants and food services. These businesses are never run or rarely run with high margins anyway now that they're trying to reopen and they find out how the ecosystem that supported my business in the first place, which dependent on density and turnover right? You don't WanNa keep that table occupied for too long. It's just not there and it's going to be a real challenge. Are you expecting a bounceback of? Do you think that at some point over the next couple of years that? All these offices will fill back up again. We're not projecting one hundred an increase in vacancies to one hundred percent, right so we're not projecting that office will completely empty out but I think the interesting dynamic here is wear will occupancies be relatively stable? So as an quick example, if I have my headquarters in downtown, New York and my employees are really hesitant to come over but we still need office space. Maybe we give up our space in downtown New York for cheaper suburban space twenty, five miles away right? cheaper suburban space may well actually be leased out. In terms of greater quantity because now you can't pack people cubicles anymore you want six feet of space and so on and so forth. So I think it'll be a really interesting dynamic that will observe articularly in the real estate market's because it's hard to observe the movement of people and businesses in real time I. Think it'll show up in the real estate's mystics as to which geographies appear to be benefiting then which geographies appear to be hurting and do you have any guesses as to which will benefit in which will hurt? Yes. So in general, our forecast suggests that you're going to incur anywhere from fourteen to fifteen percent decline in rents. If you are in central business districts if you're at suburban base, which represents about sixty five, seventy percent of the stock out there rents are also going to fall but by an appreciably lower amount anywhere from seven eight percent but central business districts are likely to be hit at least in the short run more severely. That is Victor Kellogg the head of Commercial Real Estate Economics for Moody's Analytics Victor Thank you. Thank you for having me. The new old ninety seven's record is about survival singer-guitarist Rhett Miller bassist Murry Hammond Guitarist, Ken Buffet, and Drummer Philip People's have been making music together twenty seven years since forming in Dallas in Nineteen ninety-three, their new music reflects the ups and downs of that journey health problems for buffet and people's in recent years Miller marking five years of sobriety the new old ninety seven record is called twelfth. It's their twelfth studio album is out Friday and Miller joins us to talk about it. It's good to have you back on the show Robin so great to hear Your Voice. Well Yours to suggest that you cut right to it is a different voice. Is it? You know we all know people who've gotten sober and it know you can either be a new completely new incarnation of the old person or how would you describe this for you? It's a lot clearer out here but as you alluded to in your question, sometimes that clarity brings with it, its own set of problems because I have to. Suddenly you know look at myself as an artist in think. Like. We'll. Who Am I was I was I always just someone who is leaning on this crutch of You know the I'm I'm the party I'm the life of the party. I'm bringing it. Let's sing about whiskey and weed, and this is this is what life is. Fun is built on and I mean I love fun I. Think Music should be fun I think live performances should be fun. Maybe the hardest part of all of it was getting used to the idea. That there is fun that can be had. That doesn't involve you know passing out at the end of it. Well we heard the song dropouts. One of the lyrics that's all right turns out. You don't need wings when you've got Whiskey and guitar strings would mean if you did the inverse of that. You can't have wings if you don't have whiskey guitar strings or something like that. But let's listen to a little of a song on the new record which sounds like it reflects the new sobriety. You tell me it's held I like you better. and. Mascot. To make my vision on clear. About you. Toss a few bad. Do. More. I. Like it better than beer it goes on. Is this liking you better? What what what is this? That's so funding that you pointed that out I. Got It's funny. Just just listening that tiny clip. Made me feel the emotional sitting in the exact spot where I? wrote that and talking to you right now and. You you may well be right because. I didn't come on your program intending to be some giant advocate for sobriety and in my life, it's not like I'm. A missionary I think a Lotta people can handle it and I, think for. It worked for me. Fine. You know and eventually it no longer worked for me and. But you know the terrifying thing when people look. At a life without you know whatever kind of substance they're dealing with its once you're on the other side, it's really a beautiful place to be, and it's not as scary as you thought, it was going to be. In back to this new album which seems to be. Berthed in part by this transition you've been in. We see what you did here. It's called twelfth on the cover. There's Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach. Number number twelve. So see what you did there, and this has something to do. You told Songwriter of magazine with the idea that you grew up this artsy kid in Texas and that was one of the few ways to bond with your dad over football. Sports. Are something that my dad and I could. Talk about and we weren't talking about why he didn't come home and we weren't talking about you know how I wasn't going to be the attorney he wanted me to be or the you know for the football player he wanted me to be but we could sit we could sit down on a couch and we can watch Roger Staubach you know throw sixty yard pass to drew Pearson and we could both agree that that was awesome. Am I want to listen to another song? This is. All. Deal. Town. Was An ruins nats do quite well. The windows were. Stern. Madman and Was Roman. Swimming move. Waterfalls and Then Brandon you. Now, you've said this song is a kind of a microcosm of the whole record. Are you also a renovation you mean. The Belmont Hotel was a motor court style motel in the fifties in a neighborhood called oak cliff. were. St Rendre coincidentally. But this motor court in the nineteen fifties was not a fancy hotel. Clearly, it was court cut to the one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s when the old ninety seven's were doing our first photo shoot in you know some of our first band photos were taken in the parking lot of the old Belmont Motor Court. then. Fifteen years later investors came in bought Belmont Hotel and it's so beautiful. Now Robin it is like it's it's this really cool hip artsy hotel with a view of the Dallas Skyline and. I was staying there one time. And it hit me as I looked out of the window. onto the parking lot where. My Band had shot photos specifically because of how terrible it looked back then and now it was so beautiful I just started thinking about the metaphor of it you know if you. Don't give up on something and if you put in the time and if you put in the work, you can take something that could easily be abandoned like a band like a marriage and you can make it beautiful. Again, you can breathe life into it and it just it. Really moving to me as just sort of an object lesson and. I was so surprised that my bandmates liked that song because it seemed like such a delicate little flower of a song and they tend to go for the things that are more broad and muscular but they did such a brilliant job of letting it breathe and letting it be this disconnect. Beautiful sweet moment in the middle of our album. Let's listen to another song and this I've wondered how many people knew it a bottle rocket is, but here's bottlerocket baby. Battle of War Dallas is a warmer. More she. So a little bit about Dallas there, and it reminds me guys don't live there anymore. But you've been together as a band nearly thirty years. What's that like to have that? Long a relationship that kind of a shared history it's like a lifetime together I'll be fifty years old September sixth, and it's over half my life now. I couldn't have asked for. Better brothers. The. The life that we've shared has been so. Rich and filled with adventure in the fan base that we've cultivated over all these years we've never really stopped doing what we're doing and. And we've got now you know kids that are named after members of our band. We've got you know generations come. Together to our shows or they did it's It's a whole world of people and I I really care about them and it's spin really sweet beautiful ride and I'm pretty lucky not many bands stay together for twenty seven years and I'm not exactly sure how we did it but. Knock Wood. Thank goodness we have. Will. Let you go read Miller. Album. Just one very less thing you also told, American songwriter you are a songwriter and When you write a song, you say I'm singing this thing but I'm trying to make something you want to sing to. That's is that what it's about you on other people to sing your songs back at you. Once you've created it, you release it into the world and it goes into the lives of the minds, the hearts, the ears of people, and ideally it kind of takes root there and it grows in NAM and becomes its own thing in their lives and if they show up at my show and I look out and they're singing it back at me, it means that it's no longer mine it's theirs and. They're giving it back to me and that that energy honestly Robin that is the main thing I miss in all of this is being able to go out and look at the people in. Congress come together with the people and we're all singing together. I saw the list of the most dangerous things. You could do that to spread the virus in at the top, it was congregating in large groups in singing. My job, what I do. Someday someday, and now we all know. We'll sing back Rhett Miller he and his band, the all nine, seven, seven, new record called twelfth read. Thank you so much for talking about it. It's it's terrific. Thanks so much for having me back here now Robin. You're great. Pieces, won't we? saw. Wave. Breaks down. down. Ladies. No, you're great. It's here now. London's Heathrow Airport one of the world's busiest debuted a new cove nineteen testing facility today news comes as the airline industry is trying to get governments to allow negative tests to stand in for mandatory quarantines for international travelers. Those orders have kept would-be travelers at home here. Now, transportation analysts, Seth Kaplan joins us now and set. If you travel from one country to another right now, odds are at least one of them will require you to self isolate on arrival. How much has that slowed down international travel Dramatically, Jeremy, I just took a look at the current data for this month. The number of seats scheduled compared to the same month August of last year domestic seats are down forty three percent of a huge number obviously but international seats from the US are down eighty percent that according to cerium scheduled data. So that's the difference between with domestic just kind of having a comfort level with travelers. Obviously, a lot of people still don't have an with international it just basically being illegal to travel or nearly. So in a lot of markets. So the airline industry is proposing this idea that a negative in nineteen tests on arrival would let you skip quarantine. Tell us more. Yeah or or some variation of that depending on what they can agree with with governments. But right, they feel that these quarantines are just a really broad stroke that don't necessarily solve the problem they feel like testing would really in their view anyway get to the get to the heart of the problem. Of course, they're also trying here a stimulate demand because essentially when you think about fourteen day quarantine, most most trips lasts less than fourteen days. So is that that would basically it to a point where people would be allowed to travel again, internationally, being virtually not allowed to travel a lot of markets right now. And by the way in Hong Kong right now, when you arrive at Hong Kong International Airport, you have to go get tested. Then you have to wait for your result to come back, which is supposed to come back within twenty four hours, and then if it's negative, you than are monitored for fourteen days and have to make sure that according to you're doing both to make sure that Hong Kong doesn't see a spike in cases from international travel but there is the issue of the tests right now you know getting a test result back in a day is not exactly something that happens all over the place what are the airlines doing to address the tests? Yet not at all, there's also the question of the cost of the test, right? Who's WHO's going to pay. These are airlines that that obviously. Wouldn't see themselves in a position to do that right now. You've got to test going on at at Heathrow proposal there where you'd have a quick test when you arrive Results Back Bay in seven hours something like that they say, they contest thirteen thousand people a day right now, and then there would be a follow up test several days later, and that's when you be released from quarantine maybe five to eight days later. So it's not as if you're just for you but rather in fourteen days, maybe less than a week at least if you have those two negative tests in a row because obviously the question. Eyes of health authorities perhaps false negatives. You know it's interesting. We're talking about this. Sort of as if you are the US traveler going abroad I, imagine if the US does get coronavirus under control and there are still countries out there that don't have it under control. This is really going to be an issue that the US is going to have to do with in our airports to test people upon arrival and make sure that absolutely a we squash out the the virus that we don't have it come back from an international traveler Kaplan here not transportation analyst. Thank you. Thank you Jeremy. As the pandemic continues to dampen economic prospects around the world. The two largest economies are in a bit of a fight China the United States have been squabbling over the virus trade, Hong, Kong and territorial disputes in the south. China Sea and Kevin Rudd. The former Australian prime minister is worried things are getting out of hand. He's currently the president of the Asia Society Policy Institute in New York and has written about his fears in the current issue of foreign affairs, which will in Q. Two at here and now dot org. Kevin. Rudd joins us from Brisbane Australia Prime Minister Welcome to here now. Could to be with you on the program when you write that the growing tensions between China and the United States could lead to a crisis even armed conflict. Do you really see that happening? Reasons for writing the article. Is because I think the risks on now rail. Political tensions between the two countries are going all time high at least two. Years. Who are in the midst of a presidential election campaign in the United States? And Xi Jinping within Chinese politics is under internal pressure. So for those of us who look up this relationship closely, it's important to Simply pose the question. Be careful what you wish for at a time like this because of crises erupt erupt. Then crosses management becomes very difficult and date. Well, our listeners obviously know about the domestic pressure on president trump at tell me more about the pressure on President, Xi in China domestically as you see it well, in periods since the COVID Danton crosses hit in China a Xi Jinping himself has come under considerable internal criticism of his own handling of the crisis then with the slowing of the economy with rising unemployment. And of course, for the criticism as well in terms of the deterioration of China's relationship with a number of countries, not just the United States but with Japan with various countries, in South East Asia with India on the border and various the Europeans as well Canada and Australia to be thrown into the mix. So for these various reasons has been a reasonably fast and furious debate underway within Chinese politics very little of this is fully visible to the external lie, but there's enough indication to suggest that President Xi himself is under some internal pressure hence why? Questions which arise from a crisis a difficult to handle the times like this. He's also facing an increase in the heat of the rhetoric from president trump. Let's listen here to president trump a talking about the corona virus, which he's called the Kung Fu and the China virus areas speaking last month it came from China it should have never been allowed to get out and could have stopped it stopped an easily they chose not to does that kind of rhetoric matter In China does that matter in terms of the relationship between the US and China or does president she just see it as talk Will in Chinese politics when these things said, it does mass within Beijing, and because of China's own sense of nationalism sponsors therefore need to be delivered. Therefore it does contribute to overall further deterioration in the relationship Meyer role point however, and the article that I've just written is that if the political nature of the relationship between Beijing and Washington continues to deteriorate if he's in that context have incident and unplanned incident and Accident Sea? or in the air and have been so many near misses of Lahser years than the politics of all this just makes it very difficult to handle escalation and then to de, Escobar? Well, when you talk about a near Miss of ships hitting each other or aircraft in each other I assume that the place where that would happen would be around these islands in the South China Sea parts of the South China Sea which China claims sovereignty over even though a lot of neighboring countries also claims sovereignty over what's happened with that area in the South China Sea during Covid nineteen while we've all been focused on the pandemic Linda South. China Sea where you do have multiple Clement states. The United States has intensified its number of freedom of navigation operations, deploying naval vessels through the area. Several years ago it would have been about to such operations each year. Now we're up to about nine or ten year. and also in the case the US they'd go in the twelve mile limit which China has declared surrounding its territorial claims in the South China Sea. in response to this increased activity by the United States that have been for the deployment of aircraft by the Chinese Air Force and on top of that the United States issued a change in its declaratory position. On the legal claims or the foundation legal claims issued by China about its territorial position, the area as well put all these factors together. It does contribute to a series intensification and that's why many of us who follow this relationship closely have been issuing alarms of one form or another. What do you think could be done to de escalate the situation between China and the United States not just on the issue of the South China Sea but also the trade war also, Hong Kong also other issues that have come up between the two countries. In the case, solve the overall us, China bilateral relationship, the list of disagreements. Now, the fundamental nature is a very long one run across the national security space brought across foreign policy economic policy trade investment technology. While Way Human Rights the list is familial. If. Any significant improvement was to occur relationship both sides would need to agree to push the pause button and to engage in some level of reset. As far as China is concerned, for example, a positive way to improve the relationship with the United States, would be to stop any further repressive measures in Hong Kong if China serious about wanting to improve the dynamics of the political relationship with Washington, it could start by as would de escalating political tensions within Hong Kong itself that will be positive across the board. Do you think that China would ever do that. In of how Beijing is now looking at the overall dynamics. Chip Washington it is difficult to see what China's next steps will be the next three months in the US presidential election context. Luma's the most dangerous of all because the political stakes in Washington. Hi there. Hi, in Beijing as well. On the Chinese side I think they are trying to signal that they would like to see an overall de-escalation the immediate period ahead but speeches a one thing concrete actions for example in Hong Kong. Are Another we would need to wait and see. I just want to ask you about one other thing we have you because you're joining us from Australia, which has had a very different experience with covid nineteen than the United States it has been successful for the most part in keeping the virus from getting out of control there have been fewer than four hundred and fifty deaths in Australia. My question to you is, how do you think Australia has been able to do that and also do you think that Australia and the United States are GonNa be separated for some time to come because the virus is still? So out of control in the US, there's not to be able to be the kind of travel back and forth that they're usually is. Well cover dine tain has affected all countries that's true has not escaped that prison. There are still considerable concerns in Melbourne the capital of the state of Victoria. However, the problem here in Australia is relatively small compared with what our friends in America been going through. as for the future in terms of the lifting of restrictions on travel between the two countries frankly that will depend entirely upon the further success by the straight of parties and bringing the situation Melbourne under control. And the reverse in terms of the principal arrival points in the US for flights from Australian. That is what will the situation be an LA and San Francisco in New York and elsewhere I think we are a long way. All we in this country hope that we will get pastas sooner rather than later. Does it feel like a strange time in Australia even though the viruses is not nearly as widespread as it is here. So here in Australia or it is very much an unusual sense of this country, which is a long way from most places in the will feeling more. Than than usual and we'll look forward to the day. Then when all of us can get back to something which begins to approximate normality. That is Kevin Rudd the former Prime Minister of Australia now President of the Asia Society Policy Institute in New York. We will link you to his article from foreign affairs about China in the United States adhere now dot. Org. Kevin Rudd thank you for joining us. On the program. And it's summer harvest in so many parts of the country, a burst of the familiar hello cherry tomatoes in a world where the pandemic has upended. So much of our lives, corn tomatoes, that overflow, of Zucchini, that Gardner's Mike Complain about maybe another years but our treasures now meaning the world is still on its axis and here now resident chef Kathy guns has thoughts on what to do with it Kathy. You have a gorgeous garden we've been there Hausa, it growing. Well Hi rob and it has been a very hot and dry summer It's almost drought like. The perennials dying. We have been out there watering and trying to keep everything going, and you know this is a difficult time for so many with fires and storms and drought. But if you're lucky enough to have a garden or access to fresh produce, this is the time to celebrate and we should say you're up there in Maine look let's start I could and do just take the tomatoes off the vine and trump on them but you have a new recipe let's hear corn and tomato tart. Corn Tomato and Basil Tart. So let me just start by saying by a premade crust. No judgment. Make it easy as you want you want to make you. Mean listen we need easy right now something to make life feel a little bit easier. This is a gorgeous tart. That's quite simple. You shuck the corn off the kernels you mix it with some eggs, Parmesan cheese fresh basil, a little sour cream, and you layer it into the tart crust you layer gorgeous ripe summer tomatoes on top, put it in the oven, and then just before it's done, you scatter some more raw corn kernels on top. So it's this wonderful combination of textures and sweetness and colors and boy. This is a very, very delicious summer dinner and you know what? You can get the the crust in. Another cross the what are you talking about the the pie press in a in a Tim. Pace because tin and you can get it on just kind of rolled out its in the refrigerator section. It's fabulous. You know it's just great but you just said you know these corn kernels you're talking to the person who had a great unfortunate butternut squash cutting incident. Cutting if you're cutting your own fresh corn, what's the best way without an unfortunate incident? Quite simple you go outside work over your garbage pail you want to strip the husks cloth and the Silk, the thin film it then you WanNa take your corn you're cob of corn, put it in large deep bowl, and with a very sharp knife, you want to work your way down the sides of the. Corn releasing the Kernels, I usually have the narrowest part of the COBB on top worked my way around, and then I flip it over in case I miss some because the corn is so precious, very easy and then don't throw away the cops because you can make a very simple corn stock, which can be the basis of a chowder or soup or sauce, and you can freeze it for this winter. Okay Zucchini. Let's move on There's so much of it, but you've a recipe that isn't Zucchini bread. It is not impede. This is it called Zucchini Soup with Basil and Mint Basil, and Minter actually members of the same herb. and. They complimented each other beautifully in this again. Excuse me this is ten minutes soup. You saw -taying onion you throw in Zucchini squash fresh basil fresh mint world up with some chicken stock, and then on a hot day it is so refreshing topped with a little Greek yogurt and fresh sour cream or creme fresh. Really, really simple and delicious do not doesn't don't people know that Kathy is on the air. Listen. You said it up to you. You mean in in a blender. Yes a blender or a food processor, or you can use one of those wonderful tools called an immersion blender. They are so great. You just hold on your hand. This sounds like a great if you're getting bored with cucumber soup, which I am, this sounds like a great replacement. Yep Go ahead go ahead. Well I just love soup. Yeah, and it sounds like a good cold one. You have a couple new recipes for Korn to. Yes quickly. I did a spiced Zucchini and corn relish I used many of these spices from India tumor, fennel mustard and Kumon seeds I, similar those in some cider vinegar and then add chop Zucchini onions, peppers and chillies absolutely delicious on everything from a cheese sandwich to a burger to a curry to a piece of grilled fish, very easy and simple, and then this was a revelation I. Sauteed fresh corn kernels off the COB. With a little bit of butter and fresh ginger and white me so paste. So me so is full of who mommy it's very, very full flavored and I thought would be so in corn work well, the answer is absolutely, Yes. This is a five minute recipe that you can eat on its own again sprinkled over grilled fish Rahman soups, rice dishes, really straightforward I think that's something that Jeremy and actually working in his kitchen Jeremy. I sorry. I was just calling Kathy to find out about it. To me for it. Sorry Kathy that was me. Kathy goes will have everything at here now dot Org Thanks so much Kathy here. Now action of NPR Wvu are I'm Robin Young I'm Jeremy Hobson. I'm robin young former, US Surgeon General v that Murthy has long believed loneliness is a public health evidently, but now with. So many of us physically apart, we could be at a turning point. We can choose the path out of social recession social revival and can use this moment cask ourselves. We're we want people to fall in our priority lists. Next time here now?
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"What's up bitcoin radio. It's your man joe blackburn and you're listening to the w._b. Where bitcoin lives people. Today is going to be fun because i'm sitting here with jim. Scam police say hello jim. Hey what's up. It's major skimpily. Jim is the creative director for <hes> for bitcoin radio and me and gem among others. We'd all have conversations about. Maybe like like having some fun with the show at some point and you know we thought why not i mean it's after the mcafee of you know is a big one for us. Obviously it's been done wellness charts and and we are the types of people that want to relate and we wanna be you you know. We don't ever want to be too big for ourselves. I think it's really important to me specifically that you know that the the tone and the nature in which bitcoin radio began is maintained and that is because has i'd love talking about bitcoin. I love talking about the ideology and i like talking about this with with regular people. I want to be the bridge. I want people to see me as a bridge and so you know jim was like joe. You know so. Let me interview you you know. Let me let me host shells all right jim. It's your show man in fact a right now. It's actually apparently you know from everything. I've been told. It's your show as of now so should just stop talking. What's up damage your show while you know i just i stepped into the meeting after the mcafee interview and i demanded. I said all right well. You got mcafee mcafee you you you caught awale. You got a great big name in crypto. Let's fall it up with a complete unknown me absolutely well we service ad and then i was like editing it so let's do it but then i also wanted to flip the script because you're not going to interview me. I should interview joe because here we are. We're ten episodes in. Let's get a little bit into who joe is what his thoughts are on the space and you know maybe give a new perspective effective because i know of course we got a lot of whether it be traders or holders out there but you know their new people coming in to crypto all the time much much like myself. I've only been kind of picking up things here and there <hes> the past six to eight weeks so i wanna learn. I think you can all learn. Let's let's get down to it. Yeah and i also think for the record to people just a little intro and background on jam is a gym. It's not like this is brandon him early like i said he's the creative director is like he's been doing things like like this for a very long time probably close to a decade jim. Oh absolutely i've been too long. I guess if you'd asked me so you'll know like i mean you'll be able to tell i mean he's. He does a great job bob in all of this and <hes> you know he's also he's gotta show is called jim in them. <hes> and you plug that you know jim what real quick out of people find you jim in them. Well you can go to jim in them. Dot com <hes> <hes> i host a pop culture entertainment comedy show. <hes> you know the be wary. Sometimes we don't we get a little blue use. Sometimes we do curse so just keep that in mind but i think it's very funny entertaining show. I don't say so myself and i've been fortunate or unfortunate at times the have to listen to it but i've enjoyed it. It's a lot of fun and i do encourage anybody who especially today after you get a chance no general bit you probably you might want to be <hes> interested in how he does his his shows. There are very different the bitcoin queen radio. That's no doubt but anyways all right your show from here on out. I'm gonna shut up now. <hes> for those that don't know joe blackbourne is i mean he's one one of the guys when it comes to social media when it comes to the crypto universe bitcoin especially. You got my man over here now. I know most people out there like bitcoin. That's the thing that i heard about where you can like make a lot of money. Isn't that like ripple. They say isn't that like a theory and they say now. It's bitcoin might do. They're all crypto. We're gonna learn about it joe blackburn. Tell me a little bit about yourself. What's up dude yeah man. Thanks for the intro and just just just to make sure we're clear you know i never i'm a pretty humble guy. When it comes to this stuff but more importantly i i love crypto and i'll bitcoin because it's done a lot for me but i don't pretend to know everything either and i i hate to preface things that way but it's the truth you know but nevertheless yeah man my name's joe had come from <hes> from the south east corner of the united states <hes> i've been in crypto currency in blockchain bitcoin space since about the end of two thousand thirteen got a little unlucky initially back then bitcoin when was only one thousand dollars but right after body guess what we had this drastic in tumultuous drop down to two hundred fifty dollars. I'll never forget. I was the biggest idiot in the world right but ever since then you know i was able to. I just believed in it so i i didn't tell my wife <hes> that we lost seven hundred fifty bucks. I just kept moving along and i would add five ten dollars. At a time you know of course bitcoin was cheaper back then but <hes> and then i forgot about it for a couple of years right <hes> fortunately i got an iphone again a new iphone a few years later as noted and you know how i cloud shows you that little cloud. I don't love you even have an iphone jam but so yes right yes right because we we got that blue within blue boys. That's right. You know whatever i see like a blue non blue tech. Who is this full right. We all do you that we won't it may may we may not all admit but we definitely do that. I'm like man. Why don't you have an iphone. Anyways samsung haters out later but <hes> but anyways just kind of gets. That's the point here is that i was able to really start taking it. Seriously mid twenty sixteen. I really bought into not like physically bought in but i really mentally i guess you could say they bought in into the space and what i thought bitcoin what i believed in and then we just kind of take it from there. We'll see like here's the difference between me and you my man joe blackburn <hes> i feel like i had my first brushes with bitcoin like around the same time i think it was. Maybe it was twenty. Maybe it was even before for you but <hes> like maybe twenty twelve or twenty thirteen through little avenue. I like to call the silk road. Now i know all the coin novus is out there when they hear bitcoin they think of two things crime and they think of <hes> like pyramid schemes or a ponzi schemes star ponzi schemes now because at the time my brother would use the silk road to order marijuana off the internet. Now i mean i think about the statute of limitations. I feel are up bless. Maybe it's just a story of making up so knocking at my door just kidding now. I only delved into it for at the time to to buy people's hulu log ins and net flicks log is like this is how small minded stupid i am 'cause i'm like oh you use this thing called bitcoin but use like fractions of it because at the time i remember bitcoin was like eight hundred bucks. I think <hes> and i was like ooh who would ever spent eight hundred dollars in my mind. I'm like who will fuck would ever spend eight hundred dollars on bitcoin. I'm buying someone's netflix log in <hes>. I'm participating in crime. I don't worry hold on one second. Hold iran so like you were using bitcoin just so you didn't have to subscribe to netflix account six dollars back then it was like netflix hulu bitcoin where you said he could probably cost as much transaction fees dude. I'd have to pull find my logging. I would love to look up what what the like what i had purchase at the time like what it was worth now because you're telling me at the whole truth because you were buying that blog ends i mean it's not like they're twenty dollars twenty dollars today here's where it was netflix hulu. I think oh it was also n._f._l. Yes like nick but there's an international version so it was like i had a v._p._n. And in europe you could get like a game pass that was like sunday ticket but obviously direct t._v. Has stranglehold angle hold so that was one of them as well. It was just basically loggins because i was too afraid to like my brother was buying weed and getting shipped through the mail and like oh that's bad news. I'm way too afraid of that but yeah in my mind i was like holy shit eight hundred dollars for one fake thing <hes> i don't know about that my guy and and fast like i only did that for a little while then fast forward like three years later when all you're hearing about on the news is bitcoin as it's like eight thousand dollars ten thousand dollars twelve thousand dollars and then i'm experiencing foam. Oh if i could use some insider language well. I guess i wasn't really experienced phone because i didn't try to buy in because i kind of understood like game. The game aim was over. I think i bought a little ripple because i was like oh ripples the next one of course it wasn't but yet it's moments. Though i mean it went there was some the report made a lot of people a lot of money at one point. Yeah i think so yeah because i heard a little bit about ripple in a theory but i i mean i guess i was kind of the classic mark mark that like a lot of these bitcoin maximalists is out there called maximum maximalists because i've been hearing you use that term a lot and i'm like oh oh okay so from my understanding that someone that kind of puts bitcoin above all else correct i kind of use it my own definition for it because i think the the the definition has shifted a little bit but yeah you're pretty much spot on. It's essentially a true. Maximalist thinks that there shouldn't even be another coin right. I mean that's like the extreme. I mean that that's the original bitcoin maximalists which has evolved because back when bitcoin maximalism. I came into action to be an actual word. There wasn't all these all coins. There was like a few right bite vita that has now shifted to where big between maximalism essentially in the maximalists the true maximalist won't agree with this but the majority of the crypto world will bill and that is that you see bitcoin as like the daddy like it doesn't it doesn't go any further without it. Okay the i mean i guess ideally the lee endgame would be one one coin to rule them all whether it be bitcoin or if you left something else that has to be kind of the end goal correct <hes> you know it's it's kind of weird to. I say that because that's where we were at one point right you know we started with just one and we've evolved into a economy. I don't believe that's necessarily true jim but i understand why you would ask that especially someone who owns crypto who you know probably believes that we've talked enough where i believe that your overall your fan but you know you just. I don't have time to really put into it so you know because i understand why you asked that question. I'm gonna shape it like the answer to that is that i don't think that every crypto needs to go away but i think a lot a lot of them will die off right i mean i think it's healthy market for it's it's a capitalistic mark. It's a free market. You know you either going to survive because you're doing things right and people need. I need you or you will die off. That's the nature in which a free market. It lives <hes> because of the idea that there was this gold rush in two thousand seventeen. It got very perverted. The the idea of what crypto and blockchain was and you know that that i always say that you know people just assumed it was all going to make us rich. You know <hes> and it makes a lot of people rich but <hes> to answer your question. I don't personally believe that not no other coin or no. The token should ever exist us. That's not necessarily my stance. Okay well yeah but kind of what i was saying is like i guess i was kind of ideally like in a weird way whether it be that you're into crypto because you believe in the freedom and the potential. That's there or you wanna make money and i think a lot of people are in it for both <hes> i think i i initially i was that ideal mark like you kind of want a person to be a market. I where they're just hearing the rumblings. They're seeing the the <hes> <hes> the click bait headlines about all this money you can make so they start buying in but by necessity than buying in helping everything because now the price is going up <hes> because even like i do work as tech support and i remember at the time i would have people connecting to me because they're they're trying to set up there like bitcoin mining computer and they don't know anything and i you know and i barely know anything but i know more than them and i know they're kind of dumb and i'm just seeing that people are like they're having people remote into their computer to help them set up their crypto on like security wise. You're out of your mind. What are you doing but you know. That's the thing about especially early on in the in the crypto community. I wasn't really worth that much money right and so you didn't have a lot of people who had tons and tons of bitcoin <hes> who would who would really be at risk that way <hes> i mean the first bitcoin amount of bitcoin when i ever bought was through pay pal transaction from stranger on the internet you know so i mean i can relate to that anyways. I didn't mean to cut you off. Oh no no no that's great because like i don't know so if this has gone over gone over this or not or if this is a known thing but like what was the perfect storm that caused this big run was was it just the quote bulls at the time in two thousand seventeen decided they're gonna start pumping money into into crypto or was it just <hes> <hes> you know a a chain reaction of events just kicked everything into motion. You know looking back on it. I was still relatively learning in two thousand sixteen right. <hes> a theory had just been created. I don't even remember if it was the end of two thousand fifteen. I think it was like november. Twenty fifteen ish i mean these days could be wrong but when when the theory of i._c._o. Completed and it went into existence and they minted the <hes> in the theorem network was was live. <hes> theory really was i mean like we had other other all coins. Keep that in mind like coin doj among others <hes> bitcoin dark <hes> which <hes> you know which turned turned into eventually. I think it turned into dash could be does either way. There was there's several different coins early on in the in the early days that that started to exist right well mayor forks a bitcoin coin meaning you know they copied in pretty much <hes> just copied and pasted not cut and paste but copy and pasted <hes> the the bitcoin blockchain all right. That's the easiest way to explain it. I'm not i'm not a tech guy anyway so for me to explain the intricacies of it would be fail but to copy and paste not cut and paste the copy and paste the blockchain. Maybe make a few little tweaks a few sentences in between you know make it your own and and have maybe what they would consider some improvements. That was all that existed. Go back then write. When a theory came along it opened up this crowd sourcing crowdfunding <hes> style of of raising money. I mean we'd never seen anything like it. So there was no regulation minimal. At least you know would would be would be the best way to say it and the expectations were were not even there either. What is this going to go up. Maybe you know who knows well when the theorem. I remember the first time i even purchased the theory move six dollars and i was late to the party. I could not find a single podcast. I couldn't find but two or three decent youtube videos that could explain to me and i was calling it lethem. I remember this if the rim all right <hes> what does this either rio sitting there like asking siri like what's either you know oh and nobody can tell me anything and i couldn't really get any honest answers and you know what i everything i was hearing. Was you know about how about things. I didn't understand you know i i just wanted to know what the frigging thing was going to go up you know and so when i first bought it six within a couple of days it already gone up to eight and this is a year and a half after the it's not like ethereal theam had just come onto the scene or anything but it did just get on queen base right so there was this exposure to a theory on that had not been in there before but what happened with a theory was that a theorem created. I always describe it like this. This is not necessarily the best analogy but it's my favourite favorite all right and that has bitcoins the king okay. You got this bitcoin character sitting up top of this mountain like zeus crown on holding a sceptre. You know just like i just controlling the the the whole cryptovest and then you've got the city and which bitcoin rules and that city is called a theorem okay an and inside that city you have all these little shops and stores and businesses and those are what if theorem allows to exist is all these a little side projects these these these these businesses these companies that you can walk in say hey look i wanna do this and then here's my theory i'm that i'm gonna use in the city city of big or in the inland ruled by bitcoin and so you know i used that example for people who are just coming into the space who want to know what the heck does a theory of do what do you mean. It's a platform platform. I'm for what platform like. I need to go sing a song on the platform or you know. What are we talking about here and i i like to use that analogy for for several different reasons but ultimately comes on this list it explains in to answer your question which i've kind of rambled on about which i know it explains why people started becoming interested in a theorem and that was all these cities are the city's allowed all these businesses the pop up and then all these customers with all this a theory. I'm were going in there and purchasing you know from the stores in the. I hope that you know whatever they're buying was going to actually increase in value what you did and twin six twenty two thousand seventeen. You know we saw this. This incredible run all the way up to. I think like the theorem got thirteen or fourteen hundred bucks at some point and you know the idea that people were going to continue to make money kept bringing new people and new people and people telling the french tape man. I made a thousand dollars today. What thousand dollars on what on this internet money this magic internet money what bitcoin yeah what about what does this theory you know like you could use theory you can buy into this coin and then they're gonna. They're gonna launch and then you're gonna make money on it because everybody else who didn't get it on the <hes> the i._c._o. Is is going to now buy right and so you had this inflated idea of the value of of a theory but guess what at the end of that in into that cycle now you had all these projects sex with also theory. I'm who had to pay their bills right or the scammers. Were now just selling everything but you had all this at the rim initially that was bought and paid and then once that theory was released released into these companies hands then you had this humongous wave of selling a theory and so that's why we saw him. Go all the way back down ninety. Something bucks eighty. Something bucks at one point. Yeah yeah no i. I don't think rambling because i think you have to get into you have to put it in terms like that especially for someone like me or some of the some of the common folk <unk> out there to kind of put it in perspective so i do appreciate that and it does it feels like at least now and for the time being bitcoin is is like that brand that brand recognition. It's like the band aid or whatever where it's like. Oh get me some bandits. Get some bitcoin but you mean ripple or theory or whatever might be now talking about blockchain because i'm still like even trying to wrap my head around like what that entails. I mean obviously i'm not gonna ask issue to explain it but but what do you think like as far as a lot of people in the space i mean obviously there's very intelligent like you know technologically minded ended people in the space but when it comes to the voices what percentage of that are even people that are of that mind in or versus against as being more financial where they they they couldn't necessarily explain the blockchain nodes and whatnot but they just kinda understand financial sides of things and how that works sure i kinda fall in the middle of that myself myself right and i would say anybody who's still in this space that has someone jeopardy is past the point of the pretenders right. I would say even to the point. I would go as far as i say this. Anybody who's left that has longevity in the space at least leased has a pretty good understanding about what they're doing. Okay by default. You're not gonna spend two and a half three four years in the space on active level and not learn like a pig would know what blockchain is at this point right so you know i mean you know whether you're wink. Wink pig in in your in your mud hut in your sloshing around eating your your leftovers from the farmer or you know whether you are associated self or metallic for that matter. You know you're gonna learn learn along the way so i don't wanna talk bad about anybody. There are obviously some bad bad characters backers but those people are ten and i don't even want to put this on all because this could blanket traders and that's not what i mean but if you're only focusing on how much money did i make today. That's not somebody who i'm going to be attracted to just in general because i i like the ideology behind bitcoin. That's what i do here right is. I like to conceptualize what this does for everything <hes> and you. You said you know you didn't want me to truly explain the blockchain but let me let me simplify this. The basic principle behind a blockchain is the word trust lewis when you hear that word jim. What do you think trussell russell. What what does that just don't don't don't pander to like what my question is but just as a regular job you know what is regular gym just think about when he hears the word trust. Do you like your friends or something or <hes> you know. If you got like or an email you gotta spam list and you got like you're safe. Centers or something like that you know so trust lewis in the blockchain space means something very different and i would agree with that description. If i heard someone say that trust less or that's trust louis entity or whatever i'd be like like a negative that that's something that you wouldn't want to trust that person but in this space it actually means something a little bit different and that is there is no such thing as trust because it doesn't exist in this. It's trust less like you don't have to trust it because it's it's permanently perfect. There is no alter <unk> own terrier. There's no there's no other option. It's literally not something you even have to trust. It's guaranteed okay. I was hearing trust list. The list of things trust less restless. Don't pay no mind to my answer yeah so that's my mississippi br. I i feel i feel your thoughts on your saying. Trust less trust less less l. e. s. s. trust less and i don't know if your answer would change tremendously but l. let you kind of if you want to interject possibly what your answer would be trust louis. Oh yeah that would be like like a villain someone. You don't want to be around yeah. You know what i mean like untrustworthy untrustworthy great great answer and that's kind of what i was saying anyway and that's kind of how i was interpreting what you just said to me anyways but but it it comes down to this. What does a trust less the way. I just explained it. What does that mean now you. When you hear the word you don't even have to trust at its permanently perfect in this circumstance. How do you feel when you hear that yeah okay so now it is breaking down to that. There's <hes> it's not even a factor factor. It's not even something about because it's already just kind of assumed not even assumed it's just known it's. It's something that doesn't even have to be addressed. Yes you do this action. It is guaranteed now. The problem with humans is this is that we don't know what that feels like we don't have we've never had that option before right. I mean i mean the closest thing we have to that. Is i'm hungry. I eat something. I'm less hungry which isn't always true right. Yeah i mean sometimes. I'm still hungry or that's so good. I'm going to keep eating. I'm and i use a us. All these examples for just make things really simplified here. Is that when you have a ledger and in those of you who might be listening who don't even know what alleged means. If you have a document a piece of paper right you got a piece the paper and on that piece of paper you wrote down all the people who owe you money or all the people that you want included on your birthday party or all the people that a sense you mail this year and you know for a fact that you didn't miss a single piece of of of lettering like you didn't miss any may or you've got every person that you wanted to go your birthday party. You didn't missing soul. This document is now perfect. Oh i know exactly what it is now imagine if you never had to do that now obviously there has to be some input put but if you put everybody's name on there they were guaranteed to get their invitations or they were guaranteed to get their mail and it is documented that invitation left at this day day at this moment in this time and it was received by them at this day at this moment at this time for every single person. Let's say that lists us two million people long now not just seven eleven or twelve. How beneficial would that be. Maybe for voting right or how beneficial would that be for for on leisure side for gaming you you know and not to mention the most obvious use cases currency but gaming blockchain and gaming go hand in hand look politics. Maybe not everything in politics should be should be absolutely on the blockchain but everything that the government does might need to be on the blockchain right yet. Maybe not everything because i'm okay with government being a little but shady. They're doing things that protect this country but where does that line drawn anyways that's another shelter but and lastly supply chain where did this fake louis vitton come from and how did i get sold to it in a store at louis vuitton store as a real louis vitton that happens and people don't wanna admit because they just bought a fucking fake louis vuitton yeah so well because this this this ah i'm glad you're bringing up this because this kind of ties into going backs your mcafee interview because on the outside i didn't actually a lot of the talk i mean it's in the name crypto currency. You think you get this feeling that it's encrypted that it's like protected that it's private but he's opening up this idea that like you know even though he's a big supporter of bitcoin reaching the moon financial it opens up actually more privacy concerns now is that like where the blockchain comes in or is it that more is that more particularly to bitcoin and other coins are like what is the referring to their man. He used a great example on that interview and if you haven't watched it yet folks i would listen to it. I would highly encourage to because he actually brought up some things that even myself. I think about this stuff all the time right. I really proud of what i believe. The blockchain's gonna do for humanity. <hes> i'm libertarian. I'm liberty minded minded. I want people to be able to be who they wanna. Be without government intervention. I believe in government. I just believe in very small government so for that for that and that's that's an ideology that both me in being back if you share now what maccabi was bringing up was if the problem with the blockchain and and the transparency that the blockchain does provide is that you can transact this way and you can make things really simple for yourself but everybody everybody in the world who knows your address now knows all your business every bit of it and although those addresses that bet bitcoin has they a may not necessarily have a name on them but if you're familiar with who's addresses what or you know exactly how you are. What's the word and <hes> if if someone knows exactly where to find your bitcoin they can track every transaction you've ever made on blockchain because it's permanent and his trust 'less. You don't have to worry. It's it's literally all on there. It sounds good for government sounds bad for my personal interests right yeah so what mac the point mcafee made was. If you have a plumber come the house to do to do a job and that plumber comes fixes your toilet fix your sink right. He leaves. You know you send them some bitcoin. He can now look up every transaction that addresses ever use in an instant in its entirety now. I'll say this as bitcoin goes. I love it. I think it fits what bitcoin supposed to be long-term perfectly and that is this a store of value gold digital gold right ah you know i would. I kinda wanna know if i was going to invest in gold. Where did it come from. Was it from a spanish ship from long ago. Which is kinda cool or was it stolen from fort knox or we're ever probably not fort knox but you know where did this gold come from and to have the history traced. Forever is actually not bad if it's gold because i'm buying that as a store value because i personally believe you know that that's going to maintain value if not just maintained grow in value now. I don't like it as a u._s. Dollar replacement and i don't want it to be i've never thought of bitcoin is that and mcafee made the point that you know beyond everybody knowing exactly kalihi what in who you've been sending money to and how much it was and how much you got in your account right now you know because now you're not only that now potentially target right to be kidnapped or whatever but you know there are other alternatives and those are the privacy coins which that that is a i mean. I don't mind talking a little about something. You want to get into a bit but <hes> but that is a very very very very big hole that we can fall into yeah. Okay 'cause yeah now you get into more. I guess a cryptocurrencies like yeah. We don't get like super into it but it just kinda works differently on that end untraceable. Just i mean the same way that i i would say permanent a- and for sure you know trust 'less you it's guaranteed <hes> it's also you can guarantee privacy as well now. I wouldn't everybody use that well. It's a little bit. I don't want to say complicated but it can look a little bit more sketchy especially when someone who i'm in the united states as you are <hes> yeah i i. I don't think i'm doing anything wrong whatsoever. I try to abide by the laws of this land. I don't i have a freedom of speech first amendment <hes> and i practice it quite regularly and <hes> i also you know have of a of a right to privacy in my own home and things that i do and i'm not doing anything wrong right so i don't mind necessarily having conversations about it but i'm also not trying to become a target or try to look differently either. You know it doesn't mean. I'll never use privacy coins but i just don't need them. Yeah i mean i could see how it could be scary. If someone kinda ask your business or its own kind of has an idea suddenly of like all right so you get x. Amount of dollars in your x amount of bitcoin in your account. That's interesting interesting. I'll keep some tabs on that now. I you mentioned ledgers earlier and i have like a basic understanding. It's basically like a like a hardware wallets well. It's like oh is it is it. Is it almost yeah i was going to say. It's like a flash drive basically okay so you're coins actually never technically leave the network okay but your private keys ensure that you own those coins so no matter what you do as long as you have your private keys you were able to keep them safe. Okay so if you were to go to a bank and you needed to safety deposit box right and let's say that bank built a new bank and they removed all those safety deposit box to the new bank but kept the safety deposit box right. You saw your key your long who has a key right. If you lose that key what happens yeah now now. They have to crack it open or they got a crack it up. Yeah need some bad ass hacker or some really awesome equipment. Okay same thing thanks same principle. You can move it around as the key in your the only holder of that key your stuff safe. It's safe <hes> and that's essentially what a ledger is keeps. All your keys safe yeah because i mean like it 'cause noobs like me. You know we use coined base. We just we just discovered a few weeks ago. Coined bass pro makes yes. You feel like you're like now. You're li you're now. You're now you're trader. You feel like you got some cloud. You understand what's going on a little the time to make some money but yeah you know you see people whether it be like c. c. t. that's that's joe's group of course joe's hosa bitcoin radio also <hes> the crypt coin trader when people talk about like you know the exchanges coin base or i don't know people finance or i don't know crack in one of them and there's there's all kinds of things like i don't think a lot of noobs out there understand that you know when you're when you're monies in the bank like get your money's in the bank yeah. It's technically in the bank but it's not really like when you have your money on an exchange. It's technically not or your your cryptocurrency. It's technically not your thing right and let's get it on like a ledger or something like that. Yeah i mean it's not just ledger. There's there's several different ways you do. It ledgers you same thing as a as an app wallet. The has the same things okay <hes> quin base and look well. I i'm going to give a huge shot coin base. Nobody has done more in the united states and the united kingdom for crypto and bitcoin than coin base. They created an entry and exit point that was very simple familiar and easy to use for the average everyday person i don't care or what anybody says or how much their fees are they have made it super easy on me and my entire family and anybody else i've ever known to start and learn to start learning about bitcoin and crypto and buy some they it's familiar. It's like pay pal. It's like logging into your bank to an extent. Obviously it's different. There are some things that you might be unfamiliar with when you get there but overall the app is beautiful. It's seamless. It works it's. It's absolutely the place that i don't care who you are. What you say or what you're coming to me with or want to complain about quaint base absolutely provides entry exit point that makes it very easy for anybody using it for the first time that being said it is not a place to go trade coins. It is fees are high. Will it will take a lot of ups and downs for you to be able to buy and sell into actually make some some money and it would be very <hes> immature or very amateur. Maybe should i say of you to think of it as something nothing more than that. It's an entry and exit point and that's all i've ever viewed it as right now. They also provide some insurance two hundred. I think it's like two hundred fifty thousand whatever the minima it's like a bank. If you have your coins in there and for some reason something happens. That's federally insured that for two hundred fifty thousand well guess what that's familiar familiar for people as well and they feel comfortable with that because that's what they're banks. Tell them right now. That doesn't actually mean that if you've got hacked that you're insured that you're stuff's not going to not be it's someone logs into your account takes. Your bitcoin quimby. It could be like bro has has nothing to do with me. It's your own fault. You know you better keep stuff. Put back together. They're not going to replace your stuff. What what they're saying is if the bank went down and burned to the ground that the that that the money that was in that bank is insured to this amount it has nothing to do with your bitcoin and bitcoin is not backed by the bank either. Your bitcoin is backed by the price of the market and whether or not you didn't give somebody password right so i think it's very important that people remember those things. I don't want to speak as if i'm an expert in that subject but but when it comes to like this other wallets and you know i personally i. I have a bread wallet b._a._r._t. Well actually used to be called bread. It's called biaggi wallet now and she is very simple very easy and very familiar to us to and it's it's got a cool concept so i've been using i've used bread for some time since alex although he's no longer with the company nothing negative or anything he's he's off to other things. He introduced me to be already a long time ago and that's what i use is a very easy app to use yeah okay yeah and i think that's i think that's a good point because i'm at least the understanding standing just from reading around like i do get that i'm using training wheels or whatever <hes> and then when i when i don't wanna be lazy z. and wanna really like get down to it. I'll do some research and see what the best option is to kind of jump off but i think everything you said is true because because as someone that you know only saw bitcoin through crime and through different click bait articles goals when prices were rising. You look at something like coins and he's like okay yeah. This is easy. Okay i understand <hes> but then if when you try to cash like wait a minute what it's charging me this much because the the main idea even from the die-hards out there even from the people that would like scoff at using it. They have to still be of the mind of like what we still need more people we need. We need for especially if the idea is whether it be mass adoption or because as i mean obviously flee the the very obvious parallel is stocks and not that i really know anything about the stock market but obviously they use similar terms that kind of seems was like a lot of the the the whales or the bulls or the bears they all act the same and we kind of the idea would be to get away from that for lord to be more of a like legit currency correct yet. I mean and what you just said is very common. I mean i hear that all the time and this is where there's two two different perspectives like i come from a holder and believer in bitcoin perspective right and that's a traders perspective right it that that is the person who's he's coming in. I wanna day trade. I wanna make some money. I'm gonna i'm gonna get in get out. You know have some fun with it. Maybe it's a long shot but you know people who just don't don't rationalized is the blockchain and bitcoin for what it can be long term. Now i do both honestly i don't want to pretend like i sit here and do not doubt on each side as a holder or whereas the trader but what i do i keep i my perspective of what i believe. Bitcoin is going to do long term and i'm not gonna move that bash. I'm gonna keep that no. That's my security blanket. That's that's the that's the treasure chest had hidden like you know twenty five steps north you know three steps to the west underneath log doc. That's where i wanna find out here. In the woods you see right with woman in the kids and the dog in me and you know down here in mississippi bro you wanna find my bitcoin search and i mean the swaths bro right but you know that's that's kind of job obviously but not really want to bitcoin. It's not gonna be my house smart smart in that but the stock market comparison is a traders perspective. I'm a holder okay. I trade. I use these terminal <unk> terminology. I trade. I practiced the same concepts and and i've learned from the stock market. Most people coming into the bitcoin era or the bitcoin world were in a stock market market era at some point that have some perspective of what the stocks did or penny stocks or what it might be to go trade. It's going to go up from here. The traders shape the the day-to-day markets. Okay they also can induce a a sell off or they can induce a by up right. They can induce a bull market but ultimately comes on this supply and demand. Do people believe in bitcoin deplete people believe in apple. What what makes a stock go all the way down bad news. What does it have to do with the trader just getting getting a fear. I guess right and there's a lot of manipulation but honestly speaking you know. The news constitutes the base price. What is the base price of bitcoin well. What is the price that it'll go down to until everybody thinks it's a it's a steal a deal the traders leaders and the holders they work together holders. Keep it rare. The traders make money off everybody getting in and out they don't most holders like you care if you bought it at at six thousand or six six thousand seven dollars at this point no but to the trader every dollar matters every cent matters they wanna get as low as they can where they want to they want to sell it as high as they can in buyback low right and i'm not meaning to get into the margin shorting longing cetera but there's there's. There's a lot of different perspectives. I just you know it's really important for anybody walking in especially if you're if you're comparing into stocks that's a different perspective than i hold. You know. I'm i'm holding it because i think he's gonna be hundred thousand dollars at some point soon you know well i mean i guess it's not that different from currency in general all because what people with enough money do with the similar thing with currencies and whether the dollars low they want to buy dollars and they'll put it into something thing else because they see that come up i mean i'm not that wealthy of a person to have a lotta knowledge on that so i'll just throw that out there. I mean when i was going to tokyo. Oh i've been at tokyo though and that was great because i'm buying all this yen yet thousand written and i'm like i'm sitting here i mean when when i was in tokyo i was still even confused when it's like ten dollars and i'm giving them like <hes> you know basically a hundred bucks but i'm thinking it's ten dollars hours yeah so you know that's coming from sometimes but then when i went to london i'm like what the fuck now. My money ain't worth shit <hes> so yeah same same idea i suppose and yeah i get the like i see the the holders or the holes whether it be in your on fridays i like that yeah hodler's and i liked that i liked that point of view <hes> because that kinda shows people are in it for the long haul long-haul they believe i believe in the potential and like i guess the freedom that it could bring but it's got to be tough because it's it's from the outside. It just completely looks like stocks and that's why you go into you. See people with their charts and you see like the hourly or the daily or what have you and i'm i'm sure this has been touched on. I think you've even touched on this and bitcoin radio. Is there a lot of fear because i know a lot of people think we're on the road to one hundred thousand or depending on who you talk to. You're on the road to a million. There must be a lot of fear that there are these other people that have been waiting since twenty seventeen twenty eighteen to i just dump because they feel like they lost a lot of money when it was at the all time high now there's got to be this idea that once it hits the previous alzheimer a lot of people are going to dump trump. They're shit or do you think they've come around in this time where they're they believe in it. Now man this is this is one of those human psychology questions yeah yeah and i always i always tell people. I'm a really good example of this because i have. I'm really passionate person. I'm very susceptible to foam. Oh right <hes> i will buy at the peak at times even to this day like algebra whatever you know if i'm buying and it goes back down hauser's because i believe in this but i don't want to miss the train so this is what happens though and i'm just gonna shake this for you all right jim. It's twenty seventeen flashback early. December sixteen thousand dollars bitcoins headon. I'll wait would you don't know this yet but bitcoins go ahead in nineteen thousand six hundred dollars but she bought a whole bitcoin for sixteen grand. You celebrated christmas had a good time. You know get your bitcoin is going up still eighteen thousand dollars and you know you wake up in january after your hangover from january first and all of a sudden you start seeing bitcoin good and you're like oh man <hes> let's okay. It's gone up three thousand bucks two thousand dollars. You know no big deal before you know it's february and you're down two thousand bucks. We're down back down to thirteen fourteen you know and now we're down at twelve and it's an it's an it's march and before you know it we're ten thousand and you're down six grand off your one bitcoin purchase but you committed to this. Oh man whatever never it. Maybe i'll try to buy some more. You know i i believe in this or i'm not gonna put him more but whatever but now it's january two thousand nineteen year almost year and a half later not quite a year but a year later excuse me and it's three thousand two hundred dollars and you haven't sold yet. Have you sold no. You haven't sold you mean. It's not worth it to sell now right of course not no way. Hopefully you bought a little bit just the average down but yeah but of course you didn't jimmy because you're just like everybody else and they didn't you know but now queens going back up and now it's march april may june and we're back eight nine thousand bucks and before you know what we hit thirteen fourteen all right so we've got back down what around ten thousand dollars they don't know exactly where we're at. I mean look at charts today but at this point if if you have not sold and then you watch this trek back up and everybody starts talking about thirty six thousand forty two thousand dollars potential bitcoin and we actually get back to where you're even. Are you going to sell now yeah now especially if you laid it out and i'm putting myself in that mindset it's it's like well. I've already. I've been at this long and it feels like things are on the come up. Let's ride this out. Let's ride this bitch and and what what is that in in human instinct. What is that that's foam. Oh that saying this is. Why about it the first time i had to wait a little bit longer to get there but now everybody thinks it's going to go to three six thousand which i also agree agree with that. I think i kinda pegged if we if we come back to all time high and pass it and can can sustain some growth over the ultimate icee thirty six thousand is very much an reach that is not a prediction that is just how i look at the charts and how i look at cinnamon right now and say that's what people believe is going to happen so because of that people were going to buy and hold people. We're gonna start buying right now. They're going to sell them. They're going to make you know three x three hundred three hundred percent because they're going to be smart and they're gonna hold on to that point and then we're going to have. We're going to struggle at certain at certain. Didn't you know roadmap. You know benchmarks that you know. I mean twenty thousand dollars across. That's going to be difficult. You know why because humans value that two zero zero zero zero as o._c._d. Mark where it's kind of difficult to pass and people are like i'm happy at twenty thousand so we're gonna touch bernie. Come back down or we're going to just bless right. I pass it like we did ten thousand. I remember when the first time we hit ten thousand dollars you don't happen. I was like oh. I'm selling right now. Like ninety eight hundred like i mean i was riding along for my sixty six hundred bucks right. We had ninety eight hundred tel. We're going to ten thousand like oh man. It's going to hit ten thousand. It's gonna collapse. I better get out and before you know it alls buying back in the eleven thousand dollars yeah again. Stop and you know my favorite is just from like an outsider's point <hes> perspective like reading c._t. And stuff like that because you know everyone's runs got their charts and they're interesting to look at you could tell that some people put like a lot of work in like shadows the tim pace i like that and he he puts some good stuff out there and then other random but some stuff up sometimes it's thrown together but you'll always see the commenters that are like nah how fun it's going to three and and i but i i feel like there's a few like <hes> places. That person comes from. It's either just straight troll which is fine. Those are fun or it's those people that are hoping because they already sold at eight or something and they're like faulk. It's going down and they're just they feel like they can maybe put that energy out there and mike scare people and hope it'll go down so they can buy back in because they know it's going back up. Yep now. What you just said is essentially true but you're missing of really key component in that's the day hey trader okay. The person who do you and this is obviously. I don't know how much i know that it's minimal and the investing world has admitted earlier but do you know what shorting is. I have like a basic understanding where like you you might even just by at say. It's at nine thousand you buy nine thousand then like what cell when it gets to like ninety five and then it goes down and by again like with the extra money or something is that so it's like this. Let's say and we're just gonna use even numbers here because it's simple but let's just say at ten thousand dollars. You don't think is going to keep going up so what you do. Is you have zero bitcoin. All you have is cash. Okay okay but you're gonna bet that. It's gonna go down so what you're gonna do is. You're going to take your considering the banks. The banks bitcoin you're going to actually borrow bitcoin coin from that bank and you're going to sell it back to somebody else okay and what you're gonna do and then hope that it goes down and then all you gotta do is return turn bitcoin you borrowed so if you borrowed one bitcoin right all you owe the bank is is when bitcoin all right but you soul you borrow the you borrow that that at one bitcoin from the bank but then you sold it to regular people or whoever it was that bought it from you and then after it goes back down to nine thousand dollars you then by that one bitcoin back so now you've got that bitcoin at nine thousand dollars but the bank doesn't care they just want their one bitcoin back pocket the different house and bucks okay in two thousand dollars right so that's what shorting is you borrow the bitcoin. You don't have to have any you borrow that bitcoin bitcoin you then sell it to the open market and then but here's the thing is if it goes up now. You owe the different so if it goes eleven thousand you bought it at ten. Now you're down the extra thousand bucks. Hey hey that's the risk you take now. I ask that question because i explained that because that day that day trader who's on that who's in the form saying oh you know what's going down to ninety two hundred dollars today like short it now because he's trying to pile people on so you just turn that long potential long buyer person who thinks it's going up into on. Maybe i'm gonna short it today or i'm gonna tell my bitcoin and help the price. You know have some pressure half suppress the prices. You know where you're you're. You're selling into that that market which which is one less person. That's going to help the market. Go up you know and you're in essence what you're doing is you're trying to manipulate the market and this is anybody who ever talks talks about market period. You know everybody has an agenda everybody. Some people do just give their opinions. You're like oh. I can look at the chart doesn't look like i would buy right now. Okay that's a fair. It's a fair assessment but when you say it's going to go down to nineteen hundred there's probably some facts behind that typically the people who get prices interest forever right so you can kind of go back to i go back to people's predictions all the time including my own and just to see where we stand compared to to to what i was thinking back then but you know there's there's a excuse. There's a reason why people say these things yeah well. No that's great because it's like a great parallel for just like life in general. It's like joe. Who do you trust man. Who can you trust out there. Some people come to you smile in your face and they tell you it's gonna go down to five thousand and you better cell right away. But are they right or are. They just trying to get that fear and you 'cause. They're trying to make something themselves <hes> well. I mean i don't know how much longer you wanna go. Oh but maybe i hit you with my own version of quick fire here. Go do it bro scared and i don't think you're getting you know what and before. I even asked this question. I don't think you're gonna answer threat because go ahead. Here's my thing with joe. Blackburn joe blackburn gets pretty political. Sometimes sometimes not political political but i mean like like a politician. I we you rightfully. You know you wanna be you got that southern hospitality. You're polite man and that's great but joe blackburn. Who are you beefing with right now. Who are you beat. Who do you got beef with the devil the devil i mean here's the thing is that i do not hold grudges or people that that i have gone back and forth with but the thing is the haters make you famous. I mean look donald trump got elected because c._n._n. Wouldn't stop talking about him. I stand by that. I don't care who you are what you say c._n._n. Made everybody either love or hate donald trump have they just never even talked about donald trump. I swear to god he wouldn't have even been the last three so let's thing if someone's beeping with me i mean okay with it you know. I don't think i did anything wrong like i'm sorry bro but no. I think that's totally right because if you if you if you look at something twitter for example and if if you see someone someone's name trending a lot of times it's just people either saying like why is the sky trending why is so and so training wise those trading real not realizing that they're making that person trend like you and they probably hate. They're like hey this person why they try and and it's like well. Why are you contributing so and then we'll get on and then you're like oh yeah. This person sucks you know just contribute to the madness exactly now. You don't have to answer this one but do you think anyone's beefing with you. Oh i hope so yeah that's good answer. John mcafee are beefing that star some beef of bat mac i would i would. I would inherently just like lose that like there's no question it's not something i can win but but i would love to have some beef with something like that. Donald trump beefing it. You wanna call 'cause. He called him out actually yeah that's good though because then you get like a bunch of people that hate them just on your side immediately easily. They don't even care anything else about you. Just don't like trump and for the record that's not. I'm not like talking bad about trump there. I neither love or hate donald trump. I'm not like your typical oil merican who has just one set opinion <hes> just as a preface or as a post disclaimer anyways but hold on hold on to my answer that is verse off. I also i did call donald trump recently. I said next time you talk bad about bitcoin. Can you please tag me yeah. Let's get call now joe blackberries dont have you ever had your heartbroken of course not harm stung bro the kid dude things are perfect all the time. I'm not even not in like junior high like man yes of course now obviously i was just being bad ass yeah dude we all we all. We've all had some some something like that but i'll tell you my biggest heartbreak has come from the university of florida florida gators football team which <hes> when steve spurrier left the gators <hes> <hes> to go to the n._f._l. To be the head coach my heart was genuinely and real like no joke. I was depressed. I didn't come out of my room. I was mine. I was like fifteen of time but i was really disappointed. I remember exactly where it was when he said it and then reminded it to me afterwards so say what you want those were by biggest heartbreaks why you could tell that that's that's real talk doc because you like remember the time place you remember where you were. It's one of those you know. Do you remember where you were. You were when kennedy was shot type questions as a confined exactly right and i'll tell you this to to kind of add onto that is that when urban meyer actually retired for the first time my ex girlfriend at the time was a pretty recent ex girlfriend made sure that she was the very first person to let me know that that happened 'cause she knew how much you meant to me sweet the one that got away no no no not clearly yes. I know just mature milwaukee. I've met joe's family is a wonderful family is the lie he has a lovable wife's sweet as a button <hes> great home <hes> <hes> <hes> now now that i say that forgive this question. This is a couple of weeks. I got a couple of blue questions to ask you. <hes> are you tired of dick's pussies and astles a couple of them all the above a couple of them. I mean it is what it is you know grown ass man and and <hes> the last one this is just this is what i i asked these questions to anyone. I have on my heart questions by the way you are not going easy on me. I've i have a few other ones. I can't remember off my head. There's other one when it comes to porno now. If you ever did partake whether it be pre-marriage whatever you prefer a storyline nine or gonzo where scene that's that's a really interesting question. <hes> you know i'm <hes> i'll have to answer this like you know. I'm an amateur podcast saw. The amateur amateur aspect would probably be what for me best. I appreciate you even even even attempts to answer my questions. I think are very relevant to everybody. Nobody who listens to this show at one way or the next i i mean i guess i think that about does it is. Is there anything you think we might have missed on that we should we should get into no you just killed at jimbo and i'll tell you this to hopefully there will be many instances of our you know tag team combo on this stuff. I didn't really get to ask you a lot of questions this time but i'm sure we'll kind of go back and forth and we'll have more than one opportunity absolutely no. This has been great. This is a blast. I hope you had a lot of fun as well joe. Thank you so much for partaken some wisdom on me <hes> especially when it comes to the crypto verse i feel like i feel like your passion and your knowledge. It's it's it's infectious. It's it's easy to pick up. I think that's why <hes> your perfect to host the show like bitcoin radio and <hes> thank you so much well jim. That goes both ways you. You did a phenomenal job. I hope i did not bore you too much and until next time i am so grateful and we'll look forward to when we do this again all right bitcoin radio. You heard that you heard it from the man himself. Not me this time but jim scamper away jim. Thank you so much today for <hes> coming on and having some fun. I know you enjoyed it. Oh yeah absolutely i. It's very knowledgeable and thank you for having me on a lot of fun absolutely all right. Look bickering radio. Listen you know what time it is. It is time for you to hear how the kripo verse belongs to all of us and what that means is that means. It's it's our responsibility to take care of it. Don't you dare faltering those responsibilities. We gotta do our best. We've got hey we are the perception of the public. So every time you get a chance to learn learn to listen to get better at explaining these things do it and hopefully i was a decent example and for all you haters out there. I like you too all right until next the bitcoin radio we'll see you soon as again jam for the awesome time. It was amazing and we will back at you and a couple of days. Wait till you see what's next.
Episode 21-2 PlayStation Power Hour
"Hello and welcome to rhythm in pixels Video Game Music podcast episode Twenty Dash to where your hosts my name is Rob Nichols and I'm prevail. Every week we hang and listen to great video game music of the past and present. And if it's if it's good we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA listen to it all over the place just music jamboree. Sorry Baby. Yeah it's it's just everything right. Have you been playing anything new. This past week Yes and no so Review Wise. I've been getting my games in here near I didn't play a ton. Recently I played hero land which is a cool little game where you are an employee working at an amusement amusement park that people come to fight monsters in dungeons but the mosses are people dressed in monster costume a very interesting. You played employee at the that the place. Yeah you play the tour guide so as you're leading them through the dungeons you have to make sure they don't get killed as their rang through being heroes so you can only heal them and give them guys like. Hey maybe so you wanNA target that guy. That's how you succeeded. This part is like if you go like an amusement park a normal amusement park and you go on your whole goes from here to the end of the haunted in house or wherever you get that one guy came solve the puzzle. There's room in the Guy Comes out the Dracula costumes. Like break schedule's like so which you want to do is actually apple to apple apple actually triggers the door. So you're that Kinda go. Oh Okay and in a Cypher met. I've been slowly prerogative through. Poke Amman Jordan Shield. How's that going? But I don't even know slowly very slowly which is not good because I need to be ready for Mac. Best Steel guy there. That's just a couple of weeks three weeks real fast. It's coming up very fair and only just beat. Fourth gyms might have to marathon this weekend or last weekend when you're listening to this show To try to like just speak be through some of the stuff and just get to the end. Because I've been addicted to the wild area just running around and fishing and checking those stupid Krista. Selene the pieds what the hell. They're Co.. I I have not seen any of this so I'm going to take your word for it. It's a fun game around looking for tide pods. Yeah the tide pods the laundry. Pok Mon as right laundry. Mom Why is there no Rotan wash. There is a laundry house like there has has to be right. There really. Is Roy Tom Washing machine. And he's actually one of the most popular pogue Amman to us and the Meta game. Yeah okay so it's like I'm not sure if he's in certain shield or not by the Meta game prior to sword and shield. He showed up in a lot of tournament teams. That's pretty cool for good reason as it jerk I I have I got back industry fighter five a little bit. I don't know why I saw. The new update was coming out and I was like I wanNA play some more so I picked up for you. Did it already happened. 'cause I know now that the cold the full version on disc is February. But I think you said it could the DLC this month yes so the full the full version on disc February. If you own on it already you can actually buy the update now before that disc release comes out so you can get like. I think it's all the season season five like updates. I don't think Gilles in it yet. Like the newest characters and stuff are going to be until February. But you get all of like all of the patched it's like moves and trigger. I don't think that's either. But like the the the scaling and all of the waiting and then they do have everything so I don't know it was still working. I guess the first night I went to put it in I had to do an update and took over an hour and then I finally got the game going And then all of the servers were down because of the update so I couldn't play online it. Just it was really frustrating versus you beating training Dummies anticipation. So that when you get online burst I in burst forth with rage and just like decimate everybody. Yeah it was I I was really thinking. Am I going to play this again. So I mean yes I probably I. Meanwhile they're applying was ended up being Cami Because I like how much faster she wasn't everybody else in. Just can. And it's Kimmy. She's cool but now I'm thinking I want to change it so I must stick check with Rhea Yami Jammie. Play Jammy or Hammy. I'm Jammer Lamey. I wish should be lambing. How is that not a fight but before we chase out what mentions because it just came to mind keenum but it reminded me that I should say so for folks who are thinking about this I- patrons and whatnot? Not He let me say at the end of the episode but just figured knock it out so we were talking earlier about the Patriot episode. Yes and it's going to be. It may not be at the same time as normal. Might like the very first week of January because the holidays being what they are is going to get a little wonky donkey. Plan that both for us and for you guys how. Oh ever topics whom got. I got the topic for this month. And I'll just tell you the topic for next month to though obviously I can just bring it up again next year so far. A Patriot stream topic Is Gifts to friends and loved ones by that being music. Big think of it like a shoutout episode. Oh I like that so it'd be like hey to if you have if you have a spouse to my loved one I give you this track because I feel in the way it sounds makes me think of you when I listen to it or this track because reminds me of you or this track because you need need to get gear. We do like old school radio deejays or it could be like this one goes out to such and such a because they gave him free Guacamole when he was at chipotle nailed it yes perfect. Uh Be Fun I like that. Okay Wafer that was so that was going to be gifts. Gifts to friends loved ones. Romans countrymen Yep and then the next one for January. You worry we'll be a little weirder fine. New Year's new starts new games. And by that we mean new Retro Games so Games Games that you feel as though Robin I should knock out or at least attempt twenty twenty get us on the right foot with good game and of course being rather than pixels linked to good Games as great tunes so it is that with tracks from gays. You think we should be playing or give a shot to yeah because twenty twenty do more streaming because I was a lot of fun and so I think that'll be like a good like. Hey we should do these games. So some some of the things about so and one more thing on the top of the show Oh to just sort of all this housekeeping stuff so the end of December into January is going to be difficult with episodes so that means that our livestream episode for December for Patriot members will probably be the first week of January. So that's that's what's happening. There are also the release date release dates of the episodes after. This one is not going to be Monday anymore because I need to give myself more time to did you breathe into a human being. Yes so we're going to move it to either Tuesdays or Wednesdays instead of Monday so what that ultimately means. Is You still get a new episode every week. Yeah it's not the top of the week so if you need it on Monday back yourself up a week on Wednesday. Listen Monday back yourself. Up Just babble. Ah Week back it up. Yeah so that's it. I mean it may not sound like a lot to. You means a lot to me. So we're going to do that so after this week. That's one it'll be coming Out what might be some short. The next two episodes might be a little bit shorter as well just again because pronounced traveling. And then I've got you know. wirkstoffe holiday holiday is not more holiday madness than MAG fest madness bougie which there might actually be some fun specials from that because so many of your favorite podcasting friends the best this year time Rambo the dancing dice and I don't know that other guy shirt it'll be there and bleeding gums murphy. We all love to no one loved bleeding gums doctor. Barbara Monroe. So yeah. That's that's that's what's going on this year lifebeat cre- life being crazy. But this week's episode topic is the playstation. It's the twenty the fifth anniversary of the playstation brand the playstation. One brand. Right that's right. It's the very first playstation Pro with what was your experience with the first the first release of the playstation. Well actually. It's funny because like I think about that a lot and like on just in general so. ps one I came out back in and say I actually wrote down mentioned it but the song. The system came in America on September ninth. Nine hundred ninety five which is funny because I thought for is I thought that was gonNA nail the nine nine bit but nine nine ninety five hours of nine nine hundred nine anyway. This came out on that date. I didn't even no. It was coming out. I heard nothing of it. I got gay magazines. I never anything about this system Just happened to be at a friend's house. What were you playing at your time? What was your game named Jam on the? Ps One before the PS one came out like around the time that came out reporting tendencies. You're not on the superintendent. Yeah skip the Saturn. Because I believe the Saturn in came out in ninety four I'd skip the Saturn because it was too expensive and I ain't had it kind of miles bro. Yeah but Super Nintendo was still kicking off some amazing titles such as like you know Mario. RPG Don't think CR- trigger come out yet. I'm I'm almost positive. jeod come out by or was near anyway. Point is there is still hot. Titles coming On this console and I was still playing so I didn't feel the need to upgrade also genesis. I was playing as well and the sixty four wasn't gonNA come wasn't released until ninety seven. It was a rumor at the time it was still recalling the ultra sixty four and you were talking about how great it was GonNa Right. Yeah but I to a friend's house that okay a month or so. In and one of that friends friends brought over his playstation which he had purchased and he had a few games he had well one one which I'll name for my first track leader but he had jumping flash he had. That may be the game. I'm going to name yet jumping flash and that's IT. He may have other as bound think about that. That's just Oh. ESPN extreme games. He had that too and I was playing it but I wasn't really feeling it. My thought back then was how a lot of more are younger listeners. Now were probably feeling about when Microsoft hit the scene. Which is Bruce? There's guys yeah. We got Sega with Sony jumping in four. Get back to making televisions. We don't want to get out of here. It's crowded and then out out of nowhere you see how that turns a pretty squash faces and take names and there's all she wrote so when this key for me when this came when the the playstation was released I wasn't playing a lot of video games. I had a second genesis and I was playing a lot of that but in high school high school we were in high school. I got really involved in Atari so I was into Retro Games. These games retro. But I was in a retro Retro Games so I was collecting Atari Tari Twenty six hundred collecting fifty two hundred seventy eight hundred games. Oh Cool Waco. I know only had so much of my bedroom. So I was playing a ton of Atari at the time and then Suddenly one of my friends was like I said what were they. I think they got except for final fantasy seven. And that's when I started seeing all my friends he's having this thing and then I believe it was ninety seven ninety eight I was on the school. alway wow wow holy moly. It was ninety seven because our high schools changed because our high school is being renovated. We were going to clean up. Okay your claim it was like this. I don't leaving. There isn't so there. I wasn't affiliated that district but my friend who decided that's out of town ended up going there so I knew about the whole transport through him. Yeah so we had to go to claim on and so I. I was suddenly having to take the bus before I was either driving here just walking because I I live so close and this this kid on the bus. He was a year younger than me. He was trying to Make I think he was trying to make some money for school trip. And so he had a playstation with an extra controller wipeout wipe out or wipeout excel that tells you that the date and then like some madden game. I didn't care about and he was going to sell it to me. If like fifty bucks Ooh and I was like Oh my God I actually have actually have the money I can actually do this. I'm like in my mind I'm like I'll I haven't had like a legit game system for myself like ever. I don't know where this guy got this playstation basil for like fifty bucks although it other than the Atari that that I got a flea market and like genesis which was technically my brothers so I was like yeah. I'll do this and I immediately fell in love with wipeout and then I immediately fell in love with pirated games. Yes yes I'm part of the problem. But is he back then. We all work. Because let's be blunt piracy at the time was knew there. There was no protection on anything. It was the wild west if someone had a gate. You would go to blockbuster video rings a came Bernie Burn it and then just take it back the store. Yup that's how simple. That's yeah I mean for better for worse like that's that's what we did. I mean that was my entry point into a lot of systems because 'cause I just again. I'm just frugal to a fault. And I I'll have more memories later on in the show but My all my picks for today's episode are from the Launch Games of playstation in America. And Mine are not I what we were talking about the topic. My brain was originally thinking one go bonkers. And that's our thinking twenty five twenty fifth anniversary of playstation the brand or the console. Oh and my thought was so I ended up picking tracks from across the different systems based on my time of getting the system or playing my first game on each respective council so some fun stories that come out of each of those little bits to hear them. So I'm GonNa Start then with This is a even-numbered episode. I'M GONNA start with with my first track from an absolute blast of a game of an a great multi player game and I'm so glad I no idea it was a launch title. It makes sense 'cause they all the launch titles like there's like the loss range from fighting games kind of fighting gave shooting games racing games and then this game which is kind of like you think about it. It's kind kinda like a Kart Racer. This is twisted metal for the Sony playstation composed by And I'm not sure which one exactly. But we have chucky Myers Tom Hopkins Lance Lennart Art. And this is the roof top battle. Aw Yeah Uh Sir Yeah. uh-huh that was rooftop battle from the game. Twisted metal for the sunny playstation composed by Chuck E. Myers Tom Hopkins and Lance Leonard. That is just the biggest biggest biggest track ever in in a game. That's just you driving around in cars shooting missiles at each other and one of them's like an ice cream truck a sweet tooth sweet tooth. Oh my God the game death we had so much implant we just hours just Multi player over and over and over again and you get to this the stage there were before this your parking lots and you're in cities and it's just fun driving around being all stupid and blowing stuff up at this stage you're on rooftops and you're like you're knocking the people off of like the ledges and stuff. It's like jumping between rooftops you can. You can like you'll grew real fast and like scoop from rooftop the rooftop and it's super dangerous and it's just it's really cool. It's got an interesting mistakes. I remember I never got the play. Twist the mental side from a bit of the second game. But I do remember that. The premise of it was. There is a guy named all Nathan Calypso's ridiculousness. There's a story. Yeah there was a story that twisted metal mel term it was ran by a guy named clips. That was pretty much demon and the whole concept. If you win the term me he'll give you anything. You want fries but what. Maybe my memory's a little johnny because I've been trying to read up more just to get my memory back on it but I recall all almost all the endings being like a monkey's paw sorta thing why I want this and he's like alright me give the team. There's a downside to kill me when I eat the cake. I treated this game like a fighting game. It's like yeah there's a story maybe but like the fun was just playing with your friends. I felt like a car racer but me go back to look at these these old three games. Now they're hard to look at it. They're dark and Kinda grady and like all of the ankles. Jagged didn't look great but they were. They were despondent. He's all about the fund them all about the fun. So we're going to mean the playstation was. It was like like that right like a lot of these games are just. They were early three early or beyond like say with Brio was attempting where it was like mostly two d barely hobble. The three of those among it was an earthquake. But this is this is the time where they were like. Okay two CDs system. But we're not gonNA make a whole a bunch of full motion video like garbage right. Yeah they were officially stepping out and I guess why like a lot of the early. PS One gains. Always that questionably duties games hold up because it's like early three D modeling. Yes so like big like wild arms battles. The battle rooms from in wild arms or resonate will one where you were walking around and all the cared. We're kind of moving her arms and junk or even like some of the fighting games in the system. We're all just like these like we're like blocks. That were slapped together. Throw back then. He looked cool. ooh because that was the best we had and it was awesome to see them. Even get to that point. So that's also why flat out like I've seen some by pose. Recently Nelson Asan resonable threes remain and it had to earlier this year and of course I was one half of Jillian remains but like people were like. Oh come on get real sick. And he's remake them like no. I'm sick of PS three remakes. And I'm sick of you know this game. Now's the game of the year version but PS one game. Yeah and Saturn Games with their early three they. All those deserve remix was anyone that was interesting. My like I played resident evil two athlete three but I didn't really really like it through them until they were re released on the second dreamcast. Yeah and that's when I played them and and well Code Veronica. Annika was dreamcast right. Yeah that was released originally on the drink. Yeah and I was like wait is too too was on the dreamcast right. It was but it was was. Yeah one into and I think even three got on there but they were all just ports. There was nothing new or special. Aetna they were smoothed out and the VM view in are turning to episode episode. When I love what I loved about it was that in the original Resident Evil Games? The only knew how hurt you were about. How many how yet either go to the many or he hit a look at how your guy you how you guys walking hobble inmates? EMU was had a little LCD screen on. It always showed holes in it. Showed your pulse right on there. It was amazing because a lot of changed changed the game I was like what could they put us on the screen like but there was a there was nothing wrong with the dreamcast. Doing the VM. You it was cool. But that's the put put out putting it on the screen. I think would be a disservice because if you're fighting Zombie or dog or something if you're a health bar was embarrassed. The president on the screen. I think a lot of attention with couple go away whereas if you get bit you're running from the guy you're moving and then you get your odds you're safe. You're all by the way you go to the movies. Like how am I doing. Oh I'm still in the green. I just remember so well looking at the controller and being like this is a quality of life thing they just did for Iraq. It's much better had her about this. But we can move on from that and because I have some some interesting playstation stories. Don't let me forget on about my friends. I WANNA call him out because there's some nefarious things that happened wasn't applejack. APPLEJACK applejack applejack. It wasn't Ragamuffin. It did it. Did take place at the back of a bookstore was ragamuffin was was totally ragamuffin. It was it was how Teenage kids made some extra your money with the playstation store. You'll have you'll have to tell to look forward to that right. So what's what's the person that you're going to go with. So my first track is going to come from the game name Bell Arena to Shit yes all right and track is the Cayenne ammo theme not the character I use but it sure heck sounds good anyway anyway. I don't remember I remember this game but I don't remember really playing it that much to have like a good memory of it. I'll get an idea. I'm in the same boat almost but the composer of this track is Yasuhiro Nakasone. Tom uh-huh I don't back. It took Dan the old. HOLD UH-HUH DOC DOC. Washburn the sound on them. The left The long the the man. That did that boo. Oh that was bowery to ship The CAYENNE ammo theme composed by Yasuhiro Nakazono. Originally I was going to pick the team because that characters who I used to frequently use in the game and also that is the track most most remembered from the game but this one's knocked out of the water this is. This is a personal track. He's got that get that swing. beat got that accordion. Ted that crazy crazy drum solo banger. Hotel Burnell this is. This is a one of the early. Three D Games ahead ring outs. So gimson just end after you knock your life down. Games could end superfast by tossing out the ring. So if you're fight got to the point where he got to that Drum Solo. You're doing something wrong. That's nice do use Ellis. And my memory's a little hazy as to whether or not I asked you was pulling offering whereby deathly user to keep the pressure. She basically was like a speedy dual dagger wielding in character. And that's that's the characteristic. Exact right professed super weak exactly all about tapping so this game launched with the PS when this was a launch title and Janki three a quiet time it was amazing because three fighters holy cow and my friends reds would play this and back then I was very anti fighting game. D- Didn't play streetfighter like that. And you're still not excited about the now but I was even less open event and But this one was the first fighting game I came across. That really did the enemy flash hiders on the on the on the turbo graphics. Could this has this style to it but they really have that animist. All they were going for now there was an anime movie that came out right. Yeah but the animated movie for Ocean Net. We gotTA use releasing everything. Everything did that come out with the game or like the Arcane later I came later it was one of those things. There was a number of anime adaptations that happened and as enemy started to pick up more in the states rates which was around late ninety six suncoast video and it's a wall. VHS tapes and most of them were in the adult section for no reason. No reason it's anime. I want to buy Ron Molin half need to see your. Id Sir like come on. There's how about the counter. This is not adults. I don't know y you're making me show by. Id even adult so just sell it to be clear. This is a children's cartoon and I'm an adult by this is so ridiculous but like as though as it started becoming popular are made the invisibles Biz and eighty vision. They were the two. That's right. Yeah I unfortunately not around downtown and these were the guys that were putting up the majority of of the anime releases and I'm almost positive that Toshiba was more likely eighty vision released but if not it was this was neither of those in holy cow maybe media house or something did what point is a lot of these. Like video game adaptations work a Good Bridge to get people on board. Okay did you like Samurai showdown. You're the Samurai showdown animated four years ago. But now we're giving us you know people WanNa Watch them now and and of course there was always the famous street fighter movie which I think the cut was like the big dog for like fighting video game into anime movie even got like the frigging the US soundtrack with Rob Zombie MSN. Wait a minute. The the the anime streetfighter movie. You're talking about yes. Yes I don't know what the soundtrack for that was. Because because I just discovered the soundtrack to the American streetfighter live action movie. That soundtrack is crazy. Good the movie movie the game for the the the movie. Not The game based on the movie titled Street Fighter. The movie the game. Well that that's this I mean if you're okay with it I could be my segue into my extra high at the guy of okay with it. I guess the First Street fighter. The movie was a movie with Jean. Claude van Damme row Julia and Kylie Minogue as Cami and one of the most famous lines. I can think of when people say like like you. Burn my village destroyed by home for me. That was Tuesday take me. He played that like so over the top. So that soundtrack the movie the contract to the actual movie has a ice cube has the far side has rally row has all these amazing classic hip hop like like people on it like the entire soundtrack. Almost rap like old school road game for the movie for the mood. I gotTa tell you flat out. This is not in digital. I'm I making these. So it's it's really cool So when they decided to make a game based on the movie about the Game Steve Not the mood they did. They went took a completely different tack. Because moral combat was hidden your kids and making a big big fan in the arcades. Right so what they did was he. He did They took images of the art of the actors Except for Julia who at the time was very very sick and could not be in the game. It was his last movie. Wasn't it this last movie. Because he got very sick and couldn't do anything so they wanted him to perform some of the moves and they can do the motion capture for the game and of course the junkiest nineties way possible but he was not able to do that so they got some forget the other after they got to do it. I think it's the guy they oh I think I know. Who did it sucks? I'll pass he got the Honda Acura's perform a flying. Headbutt was a meet now. He was in the hospital for weeks. uh-huh he deserved he So yeah so the So they got them all to do. The looks like a live action game of streetfighter but of course it doesn't really play that group it was first released in the arcades. I didn't know that that has its own soundtrack. Then they made they took that reported it to the second Saturn the Panasonic three. Do which is how. I I discovered it and then also it was a release game for the playstation launch. Title is a launch launch title for the Sony any playstation. I did not know this and I believe that this also has its own soundtracks. It's not credited at the end of the game is credited in the manual not even like a Bun bun sort. You know where I even reached out to the powers that be electric Google. I mean I couldn't find it if you can't find it. It doesn't exist so we know it's Capcom. Though it was developed by Capcom it was produced by acclaim current. So there's some weird stuff going on there as well saw aw days claiming delude so this does not have ice cube on it. No this does not have the far side. This is ice coffee. This is a capcom have comp reduced Music Capcom Produce Music. It's iced coffee so I chose the theme for the character. That's not in the original game. This was originally intended to be like the face of street fighter. They wanted to make this character. Be The like. Oh this is the new street fighter this is like bringing it to a new generation. That's exactly but instead we got Sean Claude Van Damme. The All American style might of the muscles from Brussels is actually are all American hero. But this is the Captain Salata who had like three scenes in the actual movie youth and they made him a character in the game but was he a good it character in the gate he's hilarious. I'll link you to some some play. throughs of there's a there's a youtube show called super couch fighters that's amazing and they they pick him over and over again because he's so funny but he was in the movie. I believe it's this actor. Who did the motion capture for M Bison since Raul? Julia was too sick to to actually do that. In Japan this game was also released but not as it was not released as street fighter. The movie The game because of the movie he was an anime in Japan. They call it like something else. I think it translated to street fighter the real people movie dumb name. The game humans that punch. Yeah but it's still released their instill. They actually had reversed the names again. So Vega and Bison Ball Ron Paul Rog. They were all flipped around again understood why he did that. In the first place I think I think it's because m bison and Mike Tyson or or too close together that's a good point that's my guess anyway. So I'm bison this is the theme of Salata my boy Kevin Sawada from street fighter. The movie the game for the Sony Playstation Soundtrack. And this is actually. I really liked the soundtrack. It's like one of my favorites but the composer is unknown so we can't credit them. Yeah Yeah Sir. The the theme of Captain Sawada from the Game Street fighter. The movie the game for the Sony Playstation Soundtrack Trek visit. How track composers unknown? I love like it's got the cool sound effects like this clearly takes place like in the jungle or the elephants. Maybe maybe elephants in the background. Like you I listen the more. This is really good. This is this is Capcom and this is like classic Capcom. Miss Sounds good. This is like a Marimba or something. It's really neat. It's got it's got everything about Capcom Arcade music all right so my story he is and I'm elise out of it but there's a call rack imaging toward towards the end of high school so he worked at a local bookstore. You're in the old CDs. Let's call them the totalitarian the totalitarian and you would bring your playstation to him mm-hmm like in the daytime and behind the counter. You had a soldering iron and a bunch of tools and he would modify your playstation on on the clock on the nice and it back to you and then not playstation will be able to play whatever you want it on. What year would you say this way? I seven an and I wish I knew you'd be using the keycard method. Becky was the end of highschool. ESO This way for the game for the playstation play a non branded discs has started the machine up. They would read the disk this if it was sunny or whatever and then it would stop it so the way around that but I think. Ucla you probably you probably expect like a thing into it. Yeah I used to use the spring and the keycard method. Though if you didn't have those some people paperclips yeah you suck a paper clip in it so that in the The trae the CD tray stayed thought it was still down while you open it up and switch the game. New in this one was just you could just put wherever you want until it just spin right up somewhat nor the chat. Yeah so he made a little extra money on the side just by doing this. I think I still have that. He gets on the basement. It's it's a place to pray playstation with a little walk mark on any of the sharpest. Remember which it was. I just kept it forever. I doubt it. I doubt it still works but it was down there. Ellie had only did one hard my my to a console ever now is my dream has about we keep taking it back to you. Know what like iheart bought it by dreamcast and the frigging battery died so in the end I got my next dreamcast. I just use utopia this but it was very nice to me and say I WANNA put the skin press power. It would just run no. We're Janke nece no worries. He takes his. Do what what you want with it. You know as a kid with a lot of money like it's it worked out and then I went to work at the arcade and one of my birthdays Another friend of mine who I will not name again. Turco EP. Turquoise Pete surprised me I wasn't expecting anything ever got me birthday. Presents like Turquoise peak week he showed up with a bag it was a bag of disks ice. It was melber solid it was syphon filter. Her it was both odd World Games. he was a bunch of games and it was and he had like printed out like the he he printed out the covers of the CDs. Pasted them on the CDs themselves he went all in. It was so nice I was like it was the nicest gift it was so great I treasured it and I I. I played the hell out of those games. Like I've never played as many games as I have that one time like odd world you're saw that was also the year the first year I got my own share living at home so billy ever have ever ever only ever had one. TV in the house except for the little tiny black and white TV is playing Atari Arjan Flea markets like five bucks but no I got my own TV stuck with my own room was able to just to play metal gear solid for as long as I. I want to look back on my house. Poor like no money like I think back a funny because on one hand I would say the same thing but I think it just the way to circumstances that made a difference because what happened was my family was didn't have a lot of money but I lucked into a good job at eighteen years. Sixteen because my mom worked at a bank and she was she was friends with a former bank employee. That end up getting a job. Working corestates does like the most Delaware thing ever pretty much and it was like. Hey someone we process credit card payments here so they you just threw me near. I got a job working mayor so it paid very well. Yeah that uncle right now goes into games to. He's up until the. PS when the place can already talk about the Super Nintendo in genesis though. He was a number one. Eric but by the time the playstation was the thing. My Goat. My Ski My luck came in the fact that getting this job. I made enough money that I was like you know. I can afford my own food. 'cause I was buying my own groceries at the time and sometimes Michael clothing actually can also fort cool video video games so I was buying a lot of games almost every game and What happened was I learned about the fun that magic in front of burning? So what happens. I'm good at blockbuster. In the bunch of games that would burn them at home. But what would weird is that should also be said at this time. CD burners were not super comment and the ones that we had were like running at such a slow spiezio every once in a while they didn't work you would spend like ours burning a disc only to find that it failed and you'd have to get this house. He think back on those days now. You burn burn a disc within minutes back then if I were to burn a PS two gang. PS One game which was never more than six hundred megs. It can take me about three hours to get it done. And then I'm rolling the dice on if it worked or not on the computer you can ruin it. Yes there was a I was like a high school band. I'm doing air quotes band and we we recorded some music and just getting on a CD was a triumph. It was like no one walk around the computer while sheared but getting it on a CD with like it felt really good. It was like this is a thing thing now like are stupid. Noises that we made cannot be played in a stereo or car. It was Gloria played music and classroom. Yeah like I go and I would burn all these gates spindle gain all my neighborhood. Friends role impress McMahon whiz kid genius. Because I was the guy I could get all these games for for them but for me personally take them home and I would try these games output in this case gave it away and go back to the Games. I thought that was when I learned and that my attachment worked for nearly with this stuff like I was more interested in playing the games I bought then the birthday were just kind of got all the Games right playing them back that did change though when importing became a thing rights because imports. One stupid on Monday. You said when importing became a thing is it because disease de mean to say it's when you discovered Jr PG's no. I mean literal imports. Like when I went to was that convention. No CONNEC O'Connor are nine thousand nine. I met a couple of particular people. blend Brown and Eddie Leka and number of individual at the time were like the only seen her like Japanese rhythm gained back thanks to popular music too and Buster Group to to which at the time I didn't even know got a sequel. Yeah I lost my stocks. Can I get this sequels like wolves only Japan but we are ways we gotta find in a way to get those. We'll play those onstream still own. It we all those on a stream all the wire shake again like I mean it was just amazing to play these games and I wanted more wanted more so it was much easier to have friends. I got pop music too. I'll burn you a copy or Bob in three outbreaks copies by fighting importers to get copies of games. That's how I was able to get all the DVR versions because The the American DDR on playstation do. I it didn't come out until forever the first one. DVR Can I be our nominee economics and it was that was like even even when that came out like we. I think we were already playing fifth. Mix fifth. Mix Ran at sixty frames a second which I mean. It's just arrows. Moving on a screen people. How hard is that but comics was still like the Jianqi thirty frames a second like the timing was possibly? Yeah that's the first home. DDR Game didn't even happen till the PS two with Max v was good. I guess a fifth was when V came out fifth fifth in extreme. We're the first game where you could actually like time and and play well. I played for score well so v Necks and but then I let me fifth mix and then maximum Max. Too Extreme. Yeah right yeah then. Extreme extremes want my baby. That's the lineup. I play put so many hours in the Max to insane amount of hours in the Max because Max when when Max came out the only the only are Cambridge Sand knew about was fun. The old funding Games are K.. Way Up close to New York up in New Jersey on the net the break now it was further than the break of his up and it was called fun and Games and then the break got next to an Imax. You shut yeah pretty much everywhere. I actually just play Baxter with X.. Mall was traveling last ventures for music game. Yeah Wow we do that a lot. Yes I I feel like that like when I when I first back around one felt like the same. I was like drama. Wonder if they're going to have one you know. I wonder if it's going to be there ready to play. You'll love of this by the way they just opened around one thousand Maryland right. Yeah so I'm thinking Yay they'll have music as maybe they'll get the pop and that we didn't get because you know we're stuck with nineteen or wherever which sells what's worse than themselves much better than it actually is but turns out they got nothing I think you have a Dvr Dvr pad material shortage or something going on and apparently it's there you know dance machines. Yeah Jap- Japan's only. They've only are releasing so many machines to America like they're the only ones producing them there. They'll they're only releasing them so many places and aid definitely hit this putting the squeeze on them because they haven't gotten we say no dance machines only have two. DX apparently not rhythm game they got no comfort up no dance rush as the only got to the X.. X which blows my mother's side of the coin like ninety even fifteen minutes away from extent is the fashion district in Philadelphia. Yeah I saw the sign up there. I was after packs unplugged. They have one was there. I'm sure our listeners are loving this right now I Qatar Dora Drain irreverence called. But it's like the last version where it's two guitars plus the machine. We got a good one and it's an enormous stage. Set like people are like actually breaking breaking into the mall but like putting their cameras behind on the doors to like say like. This is what they've got. This is what they've got they've got so it's not open yet but they're still setting it up. Yeah the the The people in the Philly rhythm game scrape on facebook some workaround line. And there's like you're getting pictures. They have a good pop music. That will be going there for the other two x machine. They have is like half destroyed. Apparently there's like a machine that was like beat up the hell and it just just keeps getting radio passer location location but they have like three of them the accident one. NPR Sta- they're keeping me like whatever. Beat mania yeah just give us a good cop. I talked to other people in a rhythm games. And they're like P media is not. The news is good. But it's not real game isn't fun so that's exciting excite. Yeah hasn't changed for twenty years. I'm beating any. I don't enjoy playing. I like the music. If you could put all that music and pop and I'd be happy camper different nine. It's not how are we should. We should keep moving on up. We've heard this song twenty times. Sorry guys hope you enjoyed the gap Agai-. Hey all right so we are onto your second track so moving up from the playstation one. We had the playstation two assessment that I purchased on Release Day on Tober Twenty Six two thousand system and I almost quit my job for because I preordered it in February and then they told me. I wasn't allowed the preorder months later because employers. I will if I can't remember the employees I quit. Wow we'll buy it because I was working on track. Ot everywhere in the same law. It was amazing that they were trying to pull them. I know what my system give it to me So I got it and then also the rest of story when the next track is let's get to the talking the benchers of cookie and cream. ooh Good one boss four from the water stage for Pedo. The jerk baggage fish is not the name of the track but that is where the components of this game or Kota Hoshino. Any Ichi no itching okay awesome. uh-huh Yeah UH thirty. Yeah welcome back. You're listening to the boss theme being for world for water state from the game the adventures of cookie and cream playstation two composed by Kota Hoshino. And Ichi no hints the microphone in the whatever. The paper daughters your microphones drooping again. I have not I need to get a new boom off so cookie and cream was not a launch game for the PS two. You introduced this game. Yes and for this was actually one of from software's earliest games. Oh yeah no one talks about it which is said because this is one of my favorite Cooper Games now when PS two came out. I purchased it again on launch. What most of the Games on launched? It really appeal to me. There was like this one game based on the anime coal orphan which I didn't bother to buy those anime weird ever Greece which I for some reason that was also from software. Yeah that that was a that was like a first person but RPG. Yeah I'd Buying Essex Snowboarding. That was fun which is odd because everyone everyone says. But I couldn't get into it and you WANNA know why. Take one shot in the dark. I bet you'll guest music. Yes I couldn't. It was all licensed stuff stuff they care about. I was GONNA do it while they did have even though it was a cool mechanic at the time I didn't appreciate it. which was how when you went up? I got up. Got Air Tony. The music just drown out not join the music but it is also dropping out. When I got airs I was like this is not about feeling sex? Thanks instead of making the music adaptive with differently pieces of melodies changing here and there during certain points game actually create it with like filter. The sounds Dole. All this weird stuff based on what you were doing is almost like being up in the mountains or whatever like it gets quieter. Sound dampening room. You're back on the track. It got me I was way into Detroit cookies and cream. That was a game that was two players put on the same controller right. Not Nick is not exactly that you could do it so I i. Maybe it was the way you showed it to me or the way I read about it was that you actually play two characters at the same time using each of the door analogs to and that's why I was. That's why I was. It was kind of cool. You pretty much nailed it so this is like a cold or something so it's not. I'm sure I'm sure I'm awesome. Elicited remains messing with you so like so. This was the first game I thought post and it was the first game that I fell in love with on the system and and it came out on April thirty two thousand one so nail that one day I was my. PS Two is pretty much collecting dust from October. Twenty six two two thousand to April thirtieth two thousand one. I was playing dreamcast instead. What this was the first game on the system made me go? I WANNA play. PS Two and rob said it was a two carriages at one time on the screen. The screen split down the middle right and you were kind of controlling the both. If you're it was meant to be played with two players see them with their own controllers or with the same controller holding hands. But if you're playing a load me typically the idea was you would play the same controller controlling the one character the left hand in other girl character with your right hand and that mascot confusing you're taking one rabbit making grab a Leverett and pull you. You can get the crocodile rock across the street and you're trying new raw. Two hands became like a like a mega brain bender. It was really cool. It was a fantastic game but of course the clock to where if he ran out of time Hungary clock. Masa with chase. You and now you've got one hand making one rabbit. Dodge the clock while the other rabbits manipulated switched to get the chafed saith rabbit the crossing the street it was ridiculous. You got this in two thousand one. I remember you brought this over. When we moved into the conduct that was back in Oth four four three zero a four cookies and cream? Eternal it was. It was not soon after we got married. We're not not not so far after we got married. And you were like all right. You have a playstation two. Now got play these games. That's all I had was like Greg SMO- spoiler still playing of those. There's two games gets one leg. I've actually stopped play ten. I'll probably get if I ever get back into a stressful time in my life. I'll probably start playing it accounting. So you'll enjoy this statement though. At least I got chastised. Hard for dishing splits ball not to go on a foreign a real. I mean you know what it really actually sir. If you choose your T- wisely is a very foot game like what I what dimension of I stepped into okay I played forty four forty four or forty. Five Cams Cams and I counted them. Because I didn't WanNa play any more than that like not fun like I figured it out. I understood where the challenge is coming from. I realized realized it's like a sports game. It's sports game. I'm not into saving a fun sports game like I get what they were. Gunning for the attempt was but what does just because they nailed. The intent doesn't mean the intent is fun. I'll say this. I learned how to cheese the computer. It's just to get through the matches if I didn't learn that and actually had to like play through the game proper it would have been so much longer so much more so much more anyway. I'm not fancy time again. I've done enough of that of this show. Also one of cookies and cream you coming to my house saying you in Christie Argo game. We played it a few times. We didn't we didn't really get into it for whatever whatever reason because I was trying to get them into a great couples game this is. I don't know anything about being a couple. I'M GONNA give this game to a couple of what they think like look at this game relationships literally what it was like it. What Rabbit Bulls a cable the other rabbit cross? WHOA that's cool it's a it's a really cool game and this is really interesting? It sounds like the other rhythm the rhythms almost kind of off like it's there's so much happening on one time. Yeah Boston's really pretty chaotic because whereas the rest of the game you're always on separate screen. Yeah but it's always. It's all linear still moving forward. Start to finish yet. The boss is usually some form of Rena in both ravaged during the same environment together. Though sometimes one read it will be a kind of isolated like for example. Just one boss. Where so you're like? You're trapped in like a gladiator arena and the other wraps up on the rafters and one of the arena has to lead the boss towards like these wooden pillars. There's and then the upper level rabbit has dropped pillars on top of the monster when he's running under something like that so in the case of this balls I barely remember. I know you like He. He's like jumping out of the water. And trying to eat you and like you were trying to get to pull with court sweep anyway. The point is boss spices game. Were very hectic because you were trying to figure out one what the heck they want you to do puzzles in the sense than to coordinate yourself and make both ravaged supposed to lead bosses and fake. I hello this is another one account to play still good like I would like to play this again with you because I feel like we would be good like coordinating and yelling at each of I will say eh we play. We WanNA match a while back. We play lovers in a dangerous base. Time would play that today. That was awesome but we also played overcooked. Also so awesome. It was good. I just because you and Matt knew what you were doing. I felt like I was just being like like a sous chef right like rob go here rob go there talk show there. That's why the overcooked. This is just work like you guys are having fun. I'm Gordon Ramsay admitted two hundred eighty stat which move the plates moving over there. How hard is it to make a salad? Or I put the ingredients. Their free would happen up oath cursing like a sailor so yeah of course that gave brings out of A. I was like what I tell you about cooking properly. What are the the five steps of proper cooking etiquette to quickly do it effectively? Don't step on racks. Don't spill the food. Watch it three stars and watch. The tutorial wants to do to the love that game so Reagan I saw. Let's let's move on to my final track. This is from One more row release game. It was called right right in project. So ryden was an overhead vertical shooter in the Arcades of Reading Project. I think was a collection of the Rydin Games for the Sony playstation. So this one is called by the right way in front of me is the first stage from writing to called repeated tragedy. which is they all got crazy? Crazy names An assist for the Sony playstation uh-huh yeah. ooh ooh uh-huh. Yeah this track I I I love this part so there are times this while the and Malivai this is called the repeated tragedy which is the first stage from bright into on the game. Raden project for the Sony Playstation Cobas by go Satoh credit as rise. This sounds anything this L. anything like a tragedy. This thing's Macula is really good. So my guess is that goes right into also in the arcade on its own hardware so like you imagine how an arcade game with sound in the ninety S. This sounds way cleaners. I think that they like arranged it on the original regional synthesizers and then recorded it CD quality for the game on the playstation because it sounds really clean. I gotTa admit to this to rob real quick. What the Heck is personal? I keep looking at my cellphone. Yeah what's what's happening. You're you're poking monning it up. Aren't you right now. What is happening right now? Apparently the game awards on and arranged alright so random. His show in listener of the show Matt is text me by the way the gave awards. GimMe the Dietz. We're recording but if anything crazy happens you got a text it to me because on one hand I'm not generally big on like awards aside from like the General Gospel of white hearing about things. I like winning awards like control getting getting game of the frigging year which was unexpected but remedy. The game sailed deserve that mess. Control looks cool. Yeah it's really good but It just means we want somebody who Texas. Oh what's going on. And he's like nothing yet but it's coming just tell us as you're watching offered for for updates. Yeah I want to hear. There's rumor that they're GONNA do next smash character isn't I'm genuinely rumors had been swirling on nights you you just take a picture of yourself. FRIGGIN WISH I. I would love to be a smash brothers characters so much. I wanted to be a fighting game character. Just because I want the the absurdity of a move sick and and how cool would that be to have a moose. Maybe that'll be the next game that I work on as I just like all the pictures that I have of you already for the podcast photos that I do and I just digitize you and so like a mortal combat style game but then we had the most being otherwise it will make sense. Yeah I'll be there. I'll be in the background like going like the League. He can throw throw wall turkeys onto the screen. Your back like killing a chicken. I can the back the back of Charlie stage anyway so I I chose the project tasted. I'd never really played a lot of writing although I like. Oh I love the style of the whole lot. It's very classic Classic Space Space. Shoot em up type game but this track reminds me so much of the modern a sense of movement movement happening right now with bands like a gunship and time cop nineteen eighty three which I am quite. That is the name of the band year. That's the name of the band it's one guy with. I think some other guest artist artist. That's called time cop. Nineteen eighty-three Mega. Music is awesome. What are we calling time? Cotton one thousand nine hundred. Three's at the year you decided you know. It's so good just the year I want. Let me known but when he first when you hear this opening chords on this track like it's so big it's so smooth and that the first lines of that keyboard aboard hits it it feels good to me. It feels really good then. This really cheesy sounding drum fills a tedious. Jesus that is a mess. Let me made me feel like back in the nineties. Radically skating down that cool hat. Fight looking for the next big curl making up words. That don't make sense of those things like I don't know about you but like the playstation was just hooked up to a TV and just those TV speakers. We weren't getting this this this level of like hearing the full surround like hearing the full stereo during the full spectrum of the Bass and the treble like we're just hearing what was coming up. TV speakers back then. I had a twenty five inch magma's which I bought with my very last. Kb Toys paycheck And there was blessed before that I had strep rabbit ears window take that KB toys. You're actually had that. Td for a long time. I didn't replace it. I bought it nine hundred ninety eighty six and didn't replace it until two thousand seven. You have a TV upstairs in your room. snout right still still not that one. But I'm about to ditch that and replaceable. Another to give me a Sony wager which is only on top of the line. Back was downsized what to do with this tube. TV because it's not really to get rid of two TV's these days people who play competitive smash brothers on the Gamecube. They're GONNA want it. Yeah so if you're listening and adding throwing it out illegal dumpster yet if you're interested past guest of the show Mitchell Wong and Dan game composer of game kind. That just came out yet. They they love smash. I don't know if they play that version of smash but I'm you like mailings smashed. Go for but they might be into it. So we're onto your final track playstation one playstation two. They stationed three pry one of the more humorous have playstation releases. Because there's a history behind that which I'll get into while this awesome track is playing because because as many times I can listen to loop the better so this comes from the Game Skyhawk three I want to say was absence of justice and the track is titled Modern Tones composed by my buddy. Tim Pace is not really my buddy buddy his buddy he had never even had teen facebook messages and he keeps you know you know. He's reading it. He's he's he's happy messages the four UH in Yeah uh-huh Pau Welcome back you're listening to modern Saturn. Tom's from the game. This guy. Three absence of justice impose by Sato for the playstation three county. So for I talk talk about the game itself. Let's talk about the playstation three so for those in the know maybe those who are not in a new we know that the place Asian to was was pretty much the key ninety cuts above the rest when it was at his peak a playstation two was a fantastic concept tons of uh-huh fund mainstream games tons of fun wacky games tons of crazy. How Innovative Games that never made it to the states? Yes lots of good stuff so as a result you would have thought that Sony can do no wrong. They can put a ticket. Take a Kleenex box. Put a CD drive in and people would via as the playstation three. Unfortunately Sony also knew that so what they did was they decided to release a model of a consul charging six hundred dollars for it. Oh my God date of release of course being November seventeenth two thousand six at a whopping price at the time of six hundred dollars. They told you flat out in a press conference second job for the system was the what was the date that it came out again November seventeenth two thousand insist right. It was a cold cold rainy night that at the moment was released because I was working at an office right next to a target and the night that that came out people were camping. What are you lined up they lined up and they were camping in front of the store? There were tents and people like in like the sleeping bags like in the street and it was disgusting outside and according to an unprecedented for personnel scenario. I was not one of those. You're not there. I skipped the living daylights out of the PS three launch. Because quite frankly guy was arrogant the price is too high and I just wasn't having it and it's funny too because I genuinely at the time liked Ken Kutaragi. He was like the father playstation. I liked his mantra of he wanted to make a game console franchise wherever that was respected by Dulce just as much as kids which at the time of the PS one but just make a giant consulate looks like Oh ps one built he. That was a okay. He wanted to have a constantly that bullet with the PS three. I was like no. I'm not paying six hundred dollars. Get a second job. Just my kin. I ain't getting down with that. Massive debt massive crabs began. That crazy line was famous like press conference on the road reviewing following games games this time it was like a game called K. G. E. O.. Hit the crabs weak spot hit the massive enemy crabs weeks by for massive damage. Some funny line that people still say some time but I ignored this system or a long long time. Unfortunately during the window which I was ignoring it they stopped putting the PS two hardware hardware system so it lost the hardware backwards compatibility which was a part of why the system cost one hundred. Which I didn't get back then? Still in the box chief jer anyway. Bass four four to two thousand eight when two things happened one. They released a version of the playstation. Three that moved from hardware where in the. PS Two or hardware play the PS two emulation of the PS. Two a little bit of a price cut cutting with metal yourself the Ford. I've still never played and announcement of disguise. Three a franchise that at the time for me could do no frigging role. I was obsessed with this Guy Games. o s t the sky and the promise of software emulation of the place into was like it. Just sold you on this thing that is correct. Good certain and at the time Walmart only in Maryland at the time had a really good deal going on to get one so I drove quite a ways to get one of these. PS three where Maryland. But still do you like. Don't worry about it was it was crazy in the wild sixty eight big state lots of crazy stuff but drove down there. I picked it up. I'm driven from. JPs to also at this phony. I was a longer driving and had the beggar. Frankly you have a car back then It was amazing like I drove it in there and got the system. Hooked it up and then got this guy three and I got lost in the sauce for this thing. I was obsessed with and the premise of the game is ridiculously particularly stupid. So the idea is all of this guy gets typically involve the Netherworld in some capacity demons hanging out doing dini stuff cartoony premise. If this guy three was going to a place called Evil Academy a school for Demons. But he's wacky costumes to rage rape sits because the most well esteemed demons never went to class so to be a good student. You don't go to school. They still at home room teachers and they still had people to know that you didn't go to class. And so all of the all of the IT infrastructure was like their entire school that no one to ten. How grades you buy your e q your evil quotient? That's funny. It was weird stuff there but the track particular here this is. This is fun this track would play in class. This is the class. Of course it has to be in class but displays in class. Yes so this guy gave strategy strategy role playing but they always do weird mechanics to make you want to Max Max your care to get the most damage possible muscle wherever yeah and the case this game one of the mechanics. Sport was classroom system. You've got a class in every character in your party. Had A seat in class. Let's and you had a homeroom teacher. Each homeroom teacher affected the kind of stature. Class would actually build up as they leveled up. In addition if you set students next to each other at your desk they were more likely to perform Combo attacks on the battlefield. So you're sitting there. Determine what students you sit next to who who who not to put such students on the battlefield that you that you weren't normally in class with sitting next to they would not do Combo attacks and they would it just frequency frequency. was there like if you put like four kids next to each other demons next to each other like a t formation the seats you break it like a ninety percent chance of all four of them joining together you have to get on the field battling somebody. So how'd you feel about this. I was obsessed with it white fond of moving people around the desk gain the right classroom. Configuration set up. Well listen to this banger track. Yeah this yeah. This sounds like something that I know. You'd be into got a surf. Rock kind of thing to button the temp temporary Sato. Yes so it's like it's got that production to it you know with the extra keyboards and drums Hessel. is such a good track and I still like make fun of main characters voice in the game because it was so funny like what was it. He was like e the most evil student at Eagle Academy he was also the overlords. Half name was like Mao talking lending home. I am so intelligent I have an I q of one point eight million. You need Q- There. Was this amazing voice. Subtly you trying to do the Voice of Chris Smith tending to be like super nerdy way. Let me which we are but like it's so that's fine sir. What was your sprays her? This character's voice guiding Pernille right. Yeah and he has this voice that what he's trying traumatize another guy. He sounds like this one hit that note. Like alas wavering voice gotta get it right who Goo Goo Goo was so crazy. I Love Your Voice. I think it's time for the bonus round the bonus round is the part of the show. Replay play Covers and remixes arrangements on our theme and our theme this week is playstation or playstation memories. Honestly are fond memories of early playstation Sundays. So my last track is coming from Ridge Racer one racer which was also a launch title. I didn't realize that so ridge racer was has has. It was mostly composed by singer a fantastic composer and this is an arranged album. That came out in two thousand. Thirteen is is a lot of great composers on it has rob PTA. Who's going to be at McVeigh's this year? He's coming from. He's so good Josh. Remorse Andy Lofton and and a few others blind and TJ cut man. I think it was released by game. Chops blind was on this. Yeah oh the album okay. I was like wait a minute. He could for Ridge Racer for the with your And so All the tracks from different game so summer from racers from Ridge Racer two and type for this is from this is a gear shifter which is from Ridge Racer one composed by Shinji. Shinji has so and it's arranged by Joshua Morse and Anthony. Anthony Lofton the doctor. Okay the uh-huh Talk uh-huh it uh-huh yeah Yeah it all EH. Just feeling the music. I was a group that was gear shifter from the Album Ridge Racer arranged the two thousand thirteen composed by Shinji so a and arranged by Joshua Morse and and the Anthony Lofton. That was one arrangement. That's so good it's got like the synthesizers this is is the drumbeat. They Qatar the piano. It's all there made. It wasn't a perfect amalgamation of glorious yet. Jazz has jazz chip tune dance music. It's like it's all gravy of corn green beans Turkey dinner time all the stuff. Duffin stuff all the fixings are in there. That's so good. I hope you enjoyed it. I'm surprised surprise. I haven't played more from this album. Like like that's about eggs are wagering. I think so all right so you brought something a little different right. Yes and I'm not GonNa say what is just yet. I'm just going to announce what the track title is this. This is from the game castle. Vania chronicles it is bloody tears. We all know a bloody tears and is composed rose by Akihiko Honda or key Hero Honda. I'm sorry aw Yeah Sir the finder home. It was good now. Welcome back you're listening to bloody tears from the Game Castle Astle Vania chronicles for the playstation one couples but ocoee hero Honda. Now you might be wondering what the heck that thing was at the beginning leading into this yes for now so interesting story so couple of days ago at the couple of days prior this episodes recording. Anyway there was an article that came out on the hard times dot net which for those who parody website video gays music just pop culture and the article's title was piano empanel a classic pianist. Not all that great. Because he can't play Castle Vania music so it was a running joke. Everyone was laughing at it and one of my friends shared it with another friend and friend Nichols Bunny Richardson or Pella and he heard he read the article and laughed and then like kids. Visa or rather his wife said. Hey I got I'm gonNA come home. He's GonNa practice believe it so of course that evening. He's working on it now. I even think it was almost immediate. Actually got home from work. Sat down at the piano tries to do with it so he decided to create when he never titled So I'M GONNA call prelude allude bloody tears. That's the name of the track that I just can't what today because it's as simple but he decided to see what he could do. Just kind of randomly come up with a leading to bloody what he tears and then he started playing bloody tears all just on fingers like I can do this amazing thing and now to sound really really good to me but it also won the spur of the moment just him. I'm GONNA do this. Which shows insane amounts of talent it also makes me want him and other people for that do more stuff like this? There's just something cool about being able to say I've heard this track. It's the new viral. It's the new viral social media thing. It's the bloody tears challenge buddy talents. Don't worry about throwing ice water on your head. You can get an jeers. Her tears on your Doc Ticket Instrument Guitar Violin. Piano wherever you're good at and try to own wing a dinghy with tracks you like like like in his case it was like a lead into the the classic trek so it was like chemists prelude make something else maybe like a rock ballad lead into like something you like that you are listening to something that just adds a little extra creative you already love. He take ticket from Cornell a guy who can't play any instruments but Detroit's for good 'cause 'cause it's it's laughter yeah it's for children's laughter. It will make children laugh at you know with with you. Of course while for more information on the bonus round part of the show rhythm and PIXELS DOT com. We'll have links to the sound clouds and band camps and web pages everywhere where you can go and download the music by the music and support these awesome artists. Hi thanks for joining us on episode twenty one dash two of rhythm in pixels. This is our we. Were calling the playstation power hour. It's very powerful episode. It's a beautiful beautiful great episode. Yeah so yeah. This is just really like just you and I are getting all nostalgic about pleasant playstation memories is like it was a fantastic system system franchise and so many wonderful games have come through this machine that have been the foundation. You for a Plethora of memories that are carried to this very day. I stand by my belief that if it were not for the police station and success how things took a place on it Jay. RPG's in America would not be where they are right now. No that's true. I feel like the the the sunny playstations where they really got hold. I mean the foul L. Fantasy seven I think is really introduced. More people to it Leading up to that like there was wild arms we coton beyond the beyond typically. Don't speak of that but there was just this boom and it was all on account of that machine. He said fancy seven was the Juggernaut. That despises did. You know what these games can be profitable. They're less released a crap ton of and then we got everything including things like Knighton babying hurdle is. Is it just a lot of random gays. You've never seen come out in America up to this point. A lot of them are probably with money now I wonder I wonder. I wonder maybe in the episode can find that picture years ago of every. PS ONE RPG. I still own the cases of and I think I have like fifty something and I know a couple worth the ARC backlash nar to find that picture a picture again. 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This video games is a pretty time consuming one time consuming hobby and you might have your moments in there where you might find yourself thinking can really should have been doing something else with that video game time I could have done. That could've been an astronaut. That could have been Soccer store something and not as far fetched but also authentic. But it's worth remembering that. There's no saying that time enjoyed is not time wasted. Did and though you may not have these things that what you wish or believe you could have had. If you weren't into video games you did get something else instead. Instead by being into video games that being the experiences that came from them the memories you built by playing them interaction social you acquired by it being video games yes the such a good community and through the Bgn community far less toxic than the community at large. So thank heavens headed for that but there's so much that does come out of video games and most importantly of all if you're feeling that way about it evening once you come out of that state it's not too late you can still may change. You can still grow as a person and still do those things you wish you did prior. You're not dead yet. Keep moving forward and see what you can pull off with time. You have have fun in work hard. Play hard when if this is kind of like Like an eighty s Christmas music movie featuring the wizard. He's Flying Rosie. Santa Santa's here now he's over there. He's on the roof. Get my gun or no. We all learned new lesson. Make sure to cover the chimney fluey for would be invaders marsh. Aw Aw