16 Burst results for "Three Thousand Four Thousand Years"

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Bald Move TV

Bald Move TV

07:40 min | 3 months ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Bald Move TV

"I think is good because you had a lot of these same tone scenes in two towers right word. Like sam's mistrustful. Whatever of of ghalem firdaus not right for a season as pathetic and something can be helped. Whatever a guide for them. this escalates. because now he's heard it from meals own mouth right. And i think that was the difference before he was suspicious. Just because he's suspicious now he's actually heard smcgaels. Speak the words I think that's kind of necessary. Because then you get more on sam side right. Yeah it's real attention to like an analogy that like Golic shines on when frodo looking leads them away and he looks back like fucking gotcha. Now that it's great and like all of golden's reaction so exaggerated like when he sees his own blood acted scream and he's got this exaggerated. Tear the the stupid fat hobbit whatnot. Free there's a lot of really cool details in extra scenes. They're show more of like the fact that like most used to be a province of gondar. It's just the neighbor has gone the shit and you can see like where they great statues of men that the orcs of like saw their heads off and like replaced them with like these ugly rusted like twisted heads and stuff and and is typified by meanest mogul the former Outpost city of god door. That's been taken over by the witch king. His territory and you can see it's still like the gleaming white edifice and it's like this exquisite architecture but allen lee and john how the the production designer i think allen lee was motivated by a really bad okay all the dentists in the audience. There's a couple of cover years but he was traumatized by bad tooth job. This this bad root canal that ended up doing bridge work and like him looking in the mirror and seeing like his pristine white teeth and circled with this metal and like the gums inflamed and kind of all upset and he designed to be like okay. Take like municipal the white city and then like put a whole bunch of rusted metal like digging into that pristine surface and there's rust stains running down at like. It's a tooth. Traumatized tooth is being corrupted in things carved away from it and and I it's it's cool. I think john house said he wanted he was going for Haunted mormon temple great dipa salt lake like that only with sickly green light on it. But it's it's an iconic design this staircase. I think like. I always thought in a book like you know what is a staircase actually looked like this endless stair but god damn it that's exactly what it looks like like. It's just unbelievable that you could climb that thing. It's just believable. You could call that stairs. Yeah yeah it's a sheer rock face. Essentially it is easier to tom. Cruise in your way up the bare face. But it's the fact. These hobbits are sleeping. I i get last week in the knees. When i especially i see a big screen. Tv and high def flake. Yeah they sell the the illusion every time you every time you cut away from him. They're like another mile in the air. And that that that the mortgage is even smaller and climb everest and like sleep in in sleeping bag cots sort of like carribean beaner to the side of the mountain. I've seen us is so fucking steep and there's nowhere to go but they got asleep. It's terrifying. yeah how you ever do like i. I like an adventure. I do like going out and camping in roughing it in the wild. But i've seen those shots of guys like to sleeping against bear face while in. It's like crass how you get a wink asleep at tono But it's cool and all that stuff like the meanest mortgage coming to life and the the witch king writing in the battle And like the spire of which light goes into sky and the the the it flinging gates opened his disgorging as a massive orc army is super iconic and it ties the action together to the previous duffy talked about and i also think that elijah's performance of like wary distrustful frodo like the first time when sam asked to carry the ring the way the It's such a great reaction. Shot this kind of leg demented side. I he showed a he he. He he Fires over at sam. And we already talked about the you. Know the fact that So this hasn't happened. This tension between frodo and sam the boils over and sam. Banishes him doesn't happen in the book. But i listened to same jackson had that same jackson. Peter jackson had like a couple of reasons. Why like number one. It's inherently scarier to go into a spider tunnel when you're by yourself. Sure so like i wanted. Peel him away from that. I also wanted to have like some actual tensions. Not just like sam and frodo holding hands all the way to crack a doom l. Said also wanted to subvert the reader's expectations. That's always a bad like anytime you change something just to subvert it by worsley. The thing it does is it. It cracks. Open that unity that everybody's showing right like if that's the thing that sarah on feeds on is the disunity between the forces of men will then you got that in a microcosm here between sam and frodo and i think that works really well I i like the the between sam and and Ghalem here like i. I don't know if. I believe that gullam could take even a single punch from sam without turning into pudding but like wire man string like you a wiry old man string give it three thousand four years to mature. It's the wire is. But do i believe that. Like bilbo lacking the ring can take a punch for sam not sure not sure about that. So golub even being more twisted in sickly. I'm not sure he could. But it's like punch in coal and steel cable. I don't i don't know But the the shalah's layer i. I'm very afraid of spiders. In fact it was only about a. I think i really watch this trilogy with the rift tracks version about two years ago and so first time ever i was able to watch salah actually sting frodo like every single. Time like I my my go-to moving watching. Some scary is i would just kind of like Look down into the right and kind of like lose. Focus for a while but every single time. She liked crouched over him and that stinger came out. I'm like no okay. I'm going to wait until frodo starts like spitting out alka seltzer. I'll come back to the movie but this spider is the fucking worst. It's the grossest scariest spider and all of movie The prove me wrong. You know a cup of coffee right here. The bill so good man like him getting stuck in those webs and have like the spider appearing behind him to cut his way through The web's like he's he's freaking out. The webs are like grabbing him even more as he twists like. It's terrifying for end in the first scene. You see of lob one of those like Alien a curled up in pipe scene. It's like she's there but then the light hits her in like one of those legs that she starts crawling. It's like it's just you see the legs right and then she crawls out the whole christ i like i said i..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

News & Talk 1380 WAOK

08:55 min | 10 months ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on News & Talk 1380 WAOK

"Mon day gold one another three thousand four years then you know what we can put in the same conversation as Jordan bulls but they're not here yet no they are not sit down Phoenix Arizona Chris is up next these on CBS sports radio okay as there you go and was out in monarchy migrants are want to talk about one of the great team because the three year run the number one all the way although my my son's from Oporto seven I think they're a great great example great example they Steve Nash Maurice Stottlemyre Ashura Marion Phoenix Suns for sure the seven seconds or less offense a team that went to the Western Conference finals of lost the San Antonio Austin Dallas I should say and then of course that series in which a Morristown Tamara came off the bench had a chance to take down the San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix couldn't do it I would agree with you Chris for about a four year old Phoenix wanted best teams in the league never found a way to an NBA final yeah we really got well we still sold are you so you celebrate but you know commemorated the thirteenth anniversary of that he tried to talk about what we got close but I want to talk about that yeah basically yeah we offer the the balance and then we also the spurs twice in those run by your mascot is Q. M. B. P.'s thermo Grimes Amari was amazing so Marion you know we have Joe Johnson and we did that you know ill trade but we could get the outback men over some corn exciting team to watch in our order race here in Phoenix I was looking up the dorm so most playoff games are super exciting but avoid we can just quite quite just couldn't get it done Christian out wrong and even think about Phoenix in two thousand and nine with Alvin gentry day found their way to the Western Conference finals against Kobe gets all the Lakers game a good series what is a lost that series in six games in the Western Conference final but I remember being a fun entertaining watch what was it two thousand nine two thousand and ten season and now is he a Phoenix actually swept San Antonio four straight games they finally got past the Spartans once Mike d'antoni left that was when they finally get past San Antonio I'm a problem if you still run circles around Antonino series book two thousand seven was the area I do believe that and if they win that game five at home they win that series the model I mean at the very least we do look at a game seven between the spurs and the sons so if I'm a son's friend I would hold me still to this day they sit down all I know Robert is up next the joins this season on CBS sports radio what's up Robert how are you going to yeah pretty good thanks for taking my call I was taking a nap when I woke up in the middle of your shows off all of that all but I want to take a different twist and get you to fact check me here but if I'm not mistaken the tune titled Houston one was doing the Jordan retirement era that would only be three ninety four ninety four ninety five right and I'm not trying to do a good to take away from you so that was a great team but if Jordan had been there they probably would have been part of that group that's a great question you know I'm not sure about that Robert I feel would say they probably don't win a championship and I'm not trying to throw cold water on Akeem Olajuwon is great all time player a game that you know ninety three ninety four team that Vernon Maxwell a Kenny Smith and Robert or it will good book yeah there was one was in such a zone I mean I don't know about you Robert if you played a full year and was in basketball shape I would have bet against them now would you not not at all I mean the No Way Out yeah no no joint venture will join fan at all but the truth is the truth and I don't know I just don't know it's one of those great questions that will never have an answer to a field a hypothetical I mean we never gonna have that concrete answer to why Michael plays ninety three ninety four ninety four ninety five bowls one if he and Scotty and robin and fill all stay together after the ninety seven ninety eight year they won again the next year there does come a point dell and I believe this towards the end of the second three peat where the mental physical drain gets the so I think the bulls would been far more vulnerable then then they would have been let's say ninety three ninety four ninety four ninety five boat joint Elgin maybe the best thing form was kidnapped law a lot of no escape allow him to get his mind off basketball even all the idea of the greatest NBA point maybe of all time going to play baseball seem ridiculous for fashion kind out of left field it was like the mental health break in many ways that he needed then came back I was a Lil I save ninety four ninety five but we saw what happened the following three years dominance every which way they down Louisiana jail next on CBS sports radio one of J. Walmart are you doing today J. I'm doing alright man your urges or communion a great show and you're bringing you're saying that is cool yes I should be I appreciate honored the generations I think between this generation of fans you know compared to the other generation of players little you know do you see the brown is the king in the best apple when Bennett in Jordan I don't I don't know I think judges both great you should just leave it at that well I mean but I am fortunate on this world that we live in I think everybody wants to you know have these gold discussions that's just the way it works we have an NFL quarterbacks we had the with NBA players as far as the best to ever do it and I see your point I like looking at the dominant player of any error and I think you know you think about the nineteen sixties the dominant player of that era is going to be bill Russell then in the seventies in many ways it's going to be Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the eighties it's the era of magic and bird nineties it's Jordan the early part of the two thousand seat two thousand is probably the most complicated decade two thousand two thousand nine a fine all right what a blog you could say Shaq could say shocking Colby I thank your majesty on Satan's Duncan I mean look at what the doctor was able del and when all these changes with San Antonio Spurs for my money Shaq Kobe Duncan I could have one of those guys I'm taking long that's how dominant I believe the walls and look at what he was able to do in San Antonio and the amount of time he was able to build credible watch city California Bobby up next these on CBSSports ready up Bobby take it away what are you doing here Jack Bobby I'm all right now we'll check brought I got a little bit of the Libran being the best player on the team for all the finals and and probably not being at the true but during the repeat era that the files were in the Western Conference and in many of those probably with the background again never dispersed areas where Kobe with the bass player there's a Sacramento theory where Colby was the best player game seven against Portland the first final he was the best player when I got to the finals they played the metal bands like like the knack and the same ones were so over matched it wasn't worth discussing and you could even bring up in the Indiana series Indiana I want to stay in game four Colby had this to roll a performance late in overtime I want to see Shaq found out of the game and he played great the end there are willing him to victory Bobby I'm not trying to diminish what he brought to the Lakers because I totally get it he had great games he had great playoff moments in grey plastic tastings but the first guy I think of with those three title teams from its dominant force from the guy who had to worry about from the guy who had a game plan around it starts which Kiani now everyone knows that the most dominant force them and an honor I'm thirty five and I've been alive at the meeting but there's there's more than dominance that plays into it he couldn't touch the ball.

Chris Jordan Phoenix Arizona CBS
"three thousand four years" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

11:33 min | 10 months ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"Is the best bull riders take the grand staging Guthrie Oklahoma hold on tight and three words victory in inches closer to the top of the leader board don't miss P. B. or Lucas oil invitational on the twenty four hour home of CBS sports all the NBA's not alone name featuring teams that are quite good over a period of time but don't end up winning a championship for example there are two yeah actually I could think of in baseball in recent history who fit that description two they've seen a time coming down the other is still kinda in the middle of the Iran right now as we speak who wanted to I'm talking about over the last twenty five to thirty years that would be the Cleveland Indians at a Seattle Mariners about this with Cleveland they go to the World Series twice devil leading game seven of the ninety seven World Series in the ninth inning that's the team of course many were Mira's chin Paul may you go back to the ninety five team was Albert Belle and Kenny Lofton in Carlos by Erica but that ninety seven PM more keys Grissom for candy often that Matt Williams playing third base that that great mob is Kelly shortstop Tony Fernandez was great for that team saying the Alamo was great for that team they're real good group and they will force from nineteen ninety five to about two thousand one I mean the Indians were white there is one of the top teams in America only they got through the Yankees once they matched up heads up with the Yankees twice in postseason play Donovan ninety seven one storm when the Yankees were so dominant nineteen ninety eight but if I'm in any event what would eat me is ninety seven I think you win a World Series that year I got a lead in game seven of the World Series and I did and I got to win that game doesn't happen and they had so many hall of fame players so much talent that hurts Seattle is another one of those teams not Seattle get two World Series what do you think about some of the guys that were playing for Seattle in the late nineties Ken Griffey junior Randy Johnson Alex Rodriguez J. B. R. Edgar Martinez then you see the rise of a player like insure all in two thousand one quite remarkable as mariner teams never got you won a World Series said a Vancouver Washington pony is up next these on CBS sports radio without a dog yeah I am so sick and tired about hearing how much better today's athletes are than they were in the nineties if I am mistaken the two highest vertical leaps in history are tied between Michael Jordan and a guy named Darrell Griffin your call doctor Duncan signed up forty nine inches you know lebron James will be a great defensive player with the mullet that Kevin Durant was putting a slam dunk contest learning and do whatever you wanted in the finals of the brown broke and on that white board if you can't cover Durant how in the world could you cover a guy like Jordan what's the most explosive first step one godly all skill they could jump out of the gym at the greatest hang time in history it would be embarrassing Michael Jordan would embarrass lebron James that's my opinion and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be telling I think each individual era basketball is so difficult to compare and I know that might be a little little bit of a cop out answer for a lot of you listen to the show right now but it's not gonna tell you why it's now nineteen sixties basketball compared to nineteen eighties basketball compared to nineteen nineties basketball and now basketball with a three point shot each individual era has like its own nooks and crannies that a very very tough to kind of account for yeah I do Michael Jordan B. score forty points a game in his minor NBA basketball I also think the defense Chicago was able planet would be applied so it's one of these like Oregon is that we can bring up and have some fun with the reality can never get enough here's what I do now the stage the moment was never too big for Michael Jordan and he was willing his teams year after year two championships that idea being great it's hard to do two three peats six titles in eight years may never see some like that ever ever again even as well like the MTA which caters to dynasties all the warriors as good as they walk now maybe they will have more success and we'll get into a a story I saw involving the warriors and the tenure with Kevin Durant that's coming up a little bit but the warriors one three titles got five straight NBA finals and it's Lauren component latest on other why aren't they going to win another three thousand four years then you know what we could put in the same conversation as Jordan bulls but they're not here yet no they are not sit down Phoenix Arizona Chris is up next is on CBS sports radio cars there you go man Chris I'm doing fine and was out in former promoters are want to talk about one of the great teams are the three year run the number one all the way although my my son's from Oporto certain I think they're a great great example great example they Steve Nash Maurice Stottlemyre Ashura Marion Phoenix Suns for sure the seven seconds or less offense a team that went to the Western Conference finals and lost the San Antonio Austin Dallas I should say and then of course that series in which a Morristown Tamara came off the bench had a chance to take down the San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix couldn't do it I would agree with you Chris for about a four year old Phoenix one of the best teams in the league never found their way to an NBA final yeah we really got what we sell so I so you celebrate but you know commemorated the thirteenth anniversary of that he tried to talk about what we got close but I want to talk about that yeah basically yeah we also have a good balance and then we also the spurs twice in those run by your mascot is Q. M. B. P.'s thermo growing Amari was amazing so this Merion you know we have Joe Johnson and we did that you know ill trade but we could get the outback men over some corn exciting team to watch in our order rates here in Phoenix I was looking up the road so most playoff games are super exciting but avoid we can just quite quite took couldn't get it done Christian out wrong and even think about Phoenix in two thousand and nine with Alvin gentry they found their way through Western Conference finals against Kobe gets all the Lakers game a good series one is a lost that series in six games in the Western Conference final but I remember being a fun entertaining watch what was it two thousand nine two thousand and ten season and that was via Phoenix actually swept San Antonio four straight games they finally got past the spurs once Mike d'antoni left that was when they finally get past San Antonio I'm a problem if you still run circles around Antonino series but two thousand seven was the area I do believe that and if they win that game five at home they want answers the model I mean at the very least we do look at a game seven between the spurs and the sons so if I'm a son's friend I would hold me still to this day they sit down all I know Robert he's up next the joins us he's on CBS sports radio what's up Robert how are you going to yeah pretty good thanks for taking my call I was taking a nap when I woke up in the middle of yourself lop Paul John all but I want to take a different twist and get you to fact check me here but if I'm not mistaken the two titled Houston one was doing that Jordan retirement era that would be three ninety four ninety four ninety five right and I'm not trying to do it took to take away from you so that was a great team but if Jordan had been there they probably would have been part of a group that's a great question you know I'm not sure about that Robert I feel would say they probably don't win a championship and I'm not trying to throw cold water on Akeem Olajuwon is great all time player a game that you know ninety three ninety four team that Vernon Maxwell a Kenny Smith and Robert or it would good book yeah there was one was in such a zone I mean I don't know about you Robert if you played a full year and was in basketball shape I would have bet against them now would you not not at all I mean the No Way Out yeah and trust me I know Jordan brand hello John fan at all but the truth is the truth and I don't know I just don't know it's one of those great questions that will never have an answer to a field a hypothetical I mean we never gonna have that concrete answer to why Michael plays ninety three ninety four ninety four ninety five bowls one if he and Scotty and robin and fill all stay together after the ninety seven ninety eight year they won again the next year there does come a point though and I believe this towards the end of the second three peat where the mental physical drain yes the so I think the bulls would been far more vulnerable then then they would have been let's say ninety three ninety four ninety four ninety five book join tells you maybe the best thing form was kidnapped law a lot of noise scape allowed him to get his mind off basketball even all the idea of the greatest NBA point maybe of all time going to play baseball seem ridiculous for fashion kind out of left field it was like the mental health break in many ways that he needed then came back I was a Lil I stayed ninety four ninety five but we saw what happened the following three years dominance every which way they down Louisiana jail next on CBS sports radio one of J. Martin are you doing today J. I'm doing alright man disorder communion a great show and the European Union you're saying that is cool that's how it should be I appreciate honored the generations I think between this generation of fans you know compared to the other generation of players little you know do you see the brown is the king in the best apple and better than Jordan I don't I don't know I think judges both great you should just leave it at that.

Oklahoma P. B. Lucas NBA CBS
"three thousand four years" Discussed on WEEI

WEEI

08:07 min | 10 months ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on WEEI

"Network is the best bull riders take the grand staging Guthrie Oklahoma hold on tight and see horn's victory in inches closer to the top of the leader board don't miss P. B. or Lucas oil invitational on the twenty four hour home of CBS sports all the NBA's not alone name featuring teams that are quite good over a period of time but don't end up winning a championship for example there are two three actually I could think of in baseball in recent history who fit that description two they've seen a time coming down the other is still kinda in the middle of the Iran right now as we speak who wanted to I'm talking about over the last twenty five to thirty years that would be the Cleveland Indians about this with Cleveland they go to the World Series twice devil leading game seven of the ninety seven World Series in the ninth inning that's the team of course many were Mira's chin Paul may you go back to ninety five team was Albert Belle and Kenny Lofton in Carlos by Erica but that ninety seventeen a more keys Grissom for candy often that Matt Williams playing third base that that great mob it's Kelly short stop Tony Fernandez was great for that team sandy Alomar was great for that team they're real good group and they will force from nineteen ninety five to about two thousand one I mean the Indians were right there is one of the top teams in America only they got through the Yankees once they matched up heads up with the Yankees twice in postseason play Donovan ninety seven war storm when the Yankees were so dominant nineteen ninety eight but if I'm in any event what would eat me is ninety seven I think the one World Series that year I got a lead in game seven of the World Series and I did and I got to win that game doesn't happen and they had so many hall of fame players so much talent that hurts Seattle is another one of those teams not Seattle get two World Series but you think about some of the guys that were playing for Seattle in the late nineties Ken Griffey junior Randy Johnson Alex Rodriguez J. A. B. honor Edgar Martinez then you see the rise of a player like insure all in two thousand one quite remarkable as mariner teams never got you won a World Series set in Vancouver Washington Tony is up next these on CBS sports radio without a dog yeah I am so sick and tired about hearing how much better today's athletes are than they were in the nineties if I am mistaken the two highest vertical leaps in history are tied between Michael Jordan and a guy named Gerald Griffin your call doctor Duncan signed up forty nine inches hello Brian J. just told me this great defensive player with the mullet that Kevin Durant was putting a slam dunk contest money and do whatever you wanted in the finals of the brown broke his hand on the white board if you can't cover Durant how in the world could you cover a guy like Jordan what's the most explosive first step one godly all skill they can jump out of the gym at the greatest hang time in history it would be embarrassing Michael Jordan would embarrass lebron James that's my opinion and then they wouldn't be able to get only I think each individual era basketball is so difficult to compare and I know that might be a little little bit of a cop out answer for a lot of you listen into the show right now but it's not gonna tell you why it's now nineteen sixties basketball compared to nineteen eighties basketball compared to nineteen nineties basketball and now basketball with a three point shot each individual era has like its own nooks and crannies that a very very tough to kind of account for yeah I do Michael Jordan B. score forty points a game in his minor MBA basketball I also think the defense Chicago was able plan it would be a little black so it's one of these like Oregon is that we can bring up and have some fun with but in reality it's never good enough here's what I do now the stage the moment was never too big for Michael Jordan and he was willing his teams year after year two championships that idea being great that's hard to do two three peats six titles in eight years may never see some like that ever ever again even as well like the MTA which caters to dynasties all state warriors as good as they walk now maybe they will have more success and we'll get into a a story I saw involving the warriors and the tenure with Kevin Durant that's coming up a little bit but the warriors one three titles got to five straight NBA finals and it's Lauren component latest on other why aren't they going to win another three thousand four years then you know what we could put in the same conversation is Jordan bulls but they're not here yet no they are not sit down Phoenix Arizona Chris is up next these on CBS sports radio okay as there you go man Chris I'm doing fine and was out in former promoters are want to talk about one of the great team because of a three year run the number one all the way although my my son's from Oporto seven I think they're a great great example great example they Steve Nash Maurice Stottlemyre Ashura Marion Phoenix Suns for shore the seven seconds or less offense a team that went to the Western Conference finals and lost the San Antonio Austin Dallas I should say and then of course that series in which a Morristown Tamara came off the bench had a chance to take down the San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix couldn't do it I would agree with you Chris for about a four year old Phoenix one of the best teams in the league never found out what I want to be a final yeah we really got what we sell so I so you celebrate but you know commemorated the thirteenth anniversary of that he tried to talk about what we got close but I want to talk about that yeah basically yeah we also have a good balance and then we also the spurs twice in those run by your mascot is two MVPs thermo Grimes Amari was amazing so Marion you know we have Joe Johnson and we did that you know ill trade but we could get the outback men over some corn exciting team to watch in our order race here in Phoenix I was looking up to go to so most playoff games are super exciting but aboard we can just quite quite took couldn't get it done Christian out wrong and even think about Phoenix in two thousand and nine with Alvin gentry day found their way to the Western Conference finals against Kobe gets all the Lakers game a good series one is a lost that series in six games in Western Conference final but I remember being a fun entertaining watch what was it two thousand nine two thousand and ten season and now is he a Phoenix actually swept San Antonio four straight games they finally got past the spurs once Mike d'antoni left that was when they finally get past San Antonio I'm a problem if you still run circles around Antonino series but two thousand seven was the area I do believe that and if they win that game.

Oklahoma horn P. B.
"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

13:11 min | 1 year ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"Bias. They actually create more bias. They're doing this now with the SAT's as we head into the summer, monsoon seniors graduating going off to college in the like they put the SAT's behind them. If you're a sophomore junior, you've got this to look forward to. Right. And they have a new adversity score. The college board is the one that had ministers SAT exam ano-. It sounds like a government institution, but they're not it's a nonprofit organization, a New York. Anyway, they're going to try this new adversity score on SAT exams that are going to reflect family income, the kind of environment, you grow up with, and whether your school sucks are not. And that'll give you an advantage on the SAT to kind of level the playing field as they say. But I think it creates a whole bunch of problems that no one's going to lobby against because it's for the particular camping the right crowd with David Dillard is. A college prep expert and with Katie college prep. They do this countless times every year to get kids ready for the SAT ACT, David Moore, and welcome back to the show on the acute hearing centers dot com hotline, how you been good barn. Scott. How are you? I'm doing fine. Hey, before you get into this, I wanted to talk about the coolest thing ever. But it's also emblematic another problem Morehouse university down in Atlanta, which is a historically black college. The speaker there announced at graduation, that all four hundred graduates in that class, we're gonna get their tuition picked up by him. He was gonna write a check for forty million dollars to pay off their student loans in obviously the young people were in tears because they calculated was gonna take a number of the kids in that class majority of kids class, actually almost the rest of their life to pay back the college loan. They took out. It's incredible. The amount of money being saved. But again, emblematic of a bigger problem is that should you be in debt the rest of your life to pay off college loan. That's, that's the bigger question. There. There were three thousand four year colleges out there. They're bunch of great schools out there. There's a way to shopper colleges and be looking for the for the greatest value. So these students have ended up with, with a lot of debt, did they have to that. That was the question. It is. It is a major problem. The cost of education has risen at a string -ly fast rate. But, but that's that's a that's another issue and frankly, the different different interview. We don't have enough time for that. I it was just the coolest thing that this guy said, I'll pick up the tab, and but, but again highlights bigger problem, you see all the time is yeah. My kids may do really well on the ACT SAT, but how the hell they gonna pay for this thing. They're going to be essentially indentured servants the rest of their life. And but, but that also is kind of push back. But I think that's part of the bigger problem here too, that we see what the college varsity blues scandal, which I think, leads to lead to the decision by the SAT people to college board to with these new indicators. They did a beta test last year. I believe in now, they're going to start rolling it out this fall. So when it comes to the Ed versity score, which basically gives you points. I think based on what your background is from where you grew up, who you grow up with the neighborhood in zip code. How's this whole thing at work, they put together? Will what they're doing is, is coming up with score one to one hundred. That is measuring the context of the adversity in which that score was created. So they're taking a look at your vaber hood. What crime rate was with property rate was housing values vacancy rates. Things like that. They're taking a look at the family environment of the neighborhood. Median income. Perc- percentage of single parent families the education level of the families. They're also trying to take the context of high school, you're coming from. So they're looking at the rigor, that was offered the percentage of free and reduced lunch students. The number of AP courses offered things like that. So they can tell what type of environment you were you were coming from in a high school and, and extrapolating it into some mystical stores. They're not telling you exactly how it's calculated David. It's proprietary, it's proprietary. You don't need to know. Yes. And they're not telling the student what the score is. They're telling the college, but they're not telling the student, and so it's getting a lot of scrutiny because of that there, there are a lot of criticisms that are that are coming up about this. I mean, some people are saying, you know, this isn't going to make up for a lifetime of, of adversity challenges. No. Does some people are wondering, you know, all the alternative agendas that college board in and David Cole CEO have because they they've had a lot of skirt Lee lately. But this is not happening because of our St. believes this was in the works long in an ACT is working on a similar tool. So, so the, the, the real question is, who get squeezed here, will the, the ones that are really getting squeezed are are the, the people on the bubble. And so if you have a if you come from privilege and you, you are not an outstanding came at you're just an average candidate then yes, you, you may be one of those that that's being bumped. And so the, the real question is, what do you do with that? What, what's the advice the give to, to somebody who's about to apply to college? Will you have to deal with? I mean, this is this, you have to deal with the environment in front of you. You'll have to deal with it in the real world. When you get the job market, same thing here. So my by students right now is, is to do your research, develop a broad list of colleges that meets your standards that will give you what you need and want to prepare you for the next day July's, you'll have some that are reaches. You'll have most of them that'll be good matches for you'll have a few that, that are very likely acceptances for you, but you'll come out of it with, with a group of acceptances all to schools that you would be happy, you could be successful and you could prepare yourself for for the. Beyond college. And if you're doing that you're not buying into the assumption that there is only one good school or that I have to go to school. It's on the top of the US news and World Report list. It's a school that actually meets your needs and, and, and we'll, we'll serve your purposes. So don't don't, don't look for a college. That is somebody else's idea of, of the answer. Mitee if you can get into Harvard or Yale Law, that, that's wonderful, and it's gonna open a lot of doors for you. But by and large outside of the what you can can you maybe your fingers impossible, your toes? David Dillard, where you get the degree from really doesn't matter. Does it? I mean you're going to get that first job, job interview you get the job, it's going to be your track record, who you network with. And also what you know, for most jobs. It's very, very small percentage of jobs. There's a prestige in where you went to school could be, you know, for medicine law engineering, the stems, but for most graduates uses over ninety percent of them, it doesn't really matter where you're getting that degree from. Well, it matters that you get a quality education, but I have seen too many students, you know, having worked with nearly seventy thousand families over the last quarter century. Plus, I've seen too many kids that come from from schools that, that are not at the top of the US news. And World Report. And end up building businesses that hire people that graduated from Harvard. Right. So, so there's more than one track to take it would be best for student in, in, in not all students are the same the key is used used whatever environment, you're in well, network, build relationships, get get the education and preparation that you need to, to, to help. Show up for work early. Leave late. And how about paying attention and act. Like you care, not being entitled to me, I would rather have college grant or even a grand, I would rather have a worker like that. Then someone who feels entitled because they got their degree from privilege school. They're going to go farther than another person's. Yes. And those are skills you learn in kindergarten. You gotta work. You gotta put your nose to shoulder the wheel. David Dylan is with Katie college prep. He's accounts expert and this is gonna thank you appear in of a kid, who's headed towards college, and that would be the college board who administers, the SAT exam, which is the end all be all when it comes to getting into school. They're going to add something called in adversity score. Basically, it's a calculation proprietary formula. I'm guessing based on where you live based on your neighborhood, the quality of your school, and a whole bunch of factors that go into giving you, I guess an. I would say an advantage on the SAT do we know exactly, what that would be. Is it more time to take the task you get a certain number of points? How would how do you factor? In adversity scoring attest. It's not a direct relationship. They're not adding subtracting points from your your tests. Specifically they're there. It's a separate score reported along with your SAT score on their dashboard. So that, so the college can see your score and then get a sense of the adversity that you may have faced create that score. Shouldn't that and always has been, but why isn't this the job of the college last time, I checked, if you're taking the SAT, it's whether you know, the answer to a math, a science a history in English question doing an essay, I it, it's, it's the memorization rote memorization a lot of it and spinning back what you learned over your substantial undergraduate life as, as a as a high school student. So that's the SAT. Why is he exam provider addressing economic hardship? Shouldn't a college be responsible for doing that? Well, the college does, and they take those types of, of, of issues into consideration and the admission process. This isn't it already doing. It is it is. I guess it is because it is making it easier for them to take these things into consideration. Lesson research. I mean, the the actual amount of time that they're spending on each application is, is relatively small, they're not spending hours on every kid. And so this is this is a quick way for them to get some context of, of the student's background. They have always been taking these types of things in consideration. They're getting a profile on every high school that's being sent with a transcript. So they know the, the environment to some degree, but and, and they know the schools in general. They know the backgrounds of schools because they're accepting students from the same schools year after year. But, but this is trying to take it to another notch. This is way for college board to try to endear themselves. And keep them selves, relevant. So, so there, there are a lot of other agendas going, this has nothing to do with fairness and balance and getting the right kids. I mean look at happen with Harvard in back back to Harvard discriminate against Asian American applicants, because they held onto a different in a higher standard in people. Well, that's, that's fair. How is that fair? It's not. No. He said. So, so if, if I have a student who's about to apply to college. I'm I'm just saying. I understand that these things are out there. I still have to perform still have to show my best self. I still have to represent himself will everything that I do. Let's go do it. The older, I get David is someone who has a four year degree, the older, I get the dumber, I think colleges. Well, it, it is something that, in many cases is preparing is giving students a little more time to mature and to understand what their goals might be and to quick themselves. But you and I, both know. There's, there's a lifelong education going on. Right. I the problem I have is, why would it cost me forty thousand dollars a year to figure out life? Why would I pay for that? It's something that happens naturally. Anyway. David Dillon with Katie. Thanks again, for coming on the show today in, in sharing what you know, about this issue. You're welcome a great day..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"How are you? I'm doing fine. Hey, before you get into this, I wanted to talk about this the other thought it was a coolest thing ever. But it's also emblematic another problem Morehouse university down in Atlanta, which is a historically black college. The speaker there announced at graduation, that all four hundred graduates in that class, we're going to get their tuition picked up by him. He was gonna write a check for forty million dollars to pay off their student loans in obviously the young people were in tears because they calculated was gonna take a number of the kids in that class, a majority of the kids in class actually almost the rest of their life to pay back the college loan. They took out I it's incredible. The amount of money being saved. But again, emblematic a bigger problem is that should you be in the rest of your life to pay off college loan. That's the bigger question. They're, they're over three thousand four year colleges out there. They're bunch of great schools out there. There's a way to shop for colleges and be looking for the for the greatest value. So these students have ended up with, with a lot of debt, did they have to. That was the question. It is it is a major problem education has risen at a fast rate. But, but that's a that's another issue and frankly, the different different interview we, we don't have enough time for them. I know it was just the coolest thing that this guy said, I'll pick up the tab, and but, but again, highlights a bigger problem you see all the time is. Yeah. My kids may do really well on the ACT and SAT, but how the hell they're going to pay for this thing. They're going to be essentially indentured servants the rest of their life. But, but that also is no kind of push back, Dave. And I think that's part of the bigger problem here too, that we see what the college, which the varsity blues scandal, which I think, leads to lead to the decision by the SAT people to college board to with these new indicators, they did a beta test last year. I believe, and now they're going to start rolling it out this fall. So when it comes to the adversity score, which basically gives you points. I think based on what your background is from where you grew up, who you grow up with the neighborhood in the zip code. How's this whole thing, work do put together will what they're doing is, is coming up with a score one to one hundred. That is measuring the context of the adversity in which score was created. So they're taking a look at your neighborhood. What the crime rate with property rate was housing values vacancy rates. Things like that. They're taking a look at the family environment of neighborhood median income, perc- percentage of single parent families the education level of the families. They're also trying to take any context highschool. You're coming from. So they're looking at the rigor, that was offered the, the percentage of free and reduced lunch -tudents the number of AP courses offered things like that. So they can tell what type of environment, you were you were coming from high school and, and extrapolating it into some mystical. They're not telling you exactly how it's calculated. David's proprietary, it's proprietary you don't need to know. Yes. And they're not telling the student what the score is. They're telling the college, but they're not telling the student. So it's getting a lot of news. Brittany because of that. I mean there there are a lot of criticisms that are that are coming up about this. I mean, some people are saying, you know, this isn't going to make up for a lifetime of, of adversity and challenges. No doesn't some people are wondering, you know, all the alternative agendas that college board in and David Colin that see you have the because they they've had a lot of scrutiny lately. But this is not happening because of this was in the works long in an ACT is working on a similar tool. So, so the, the, the real question is, who gets squeezed here, will the, the ones that are really getting squeezed are are the, the people on the bubble. And so if you have a if you come from privilege and you, you are not an outstanding came you're just an average candidate then yes, you, you may be one of those that that's being bumped. And so the, the real question is, what do you do with that? What, what's the advice that you give to, to somebody who's about deploy to college? Will you have to deal with? I mean, this is you have to deal with the environment in front of you. You'll have to deal with it in the real world. When you get the job market, same thing here. So my, my students right now is, is to do your research, develop a broad list colleges that meet your standards that will give you what you'd need and want to prepare you for the next day July's, you'll have some that are reaches. You'll have most of them that'll be good matches for you'll have a few that, that are very likely acceptances for you, but you'll come out of it with, with a group of acceptances all to schools that you would be happy, you could be successful and you could prepare yourself for for the. On the college. And if you're doing that you're not buying into the assumption that there is only one good school or that I have to go to school. That's on the top of the US news and World Report list. It's a school that actually meet your needs and, and, and we'll, we'll serve your purposes. So don't don't, don't look for a college. That is somebody else's idea of, of the answer. You can get an IT if you can get into Harvard or Yale Law. That's wonderful, and it's gonna open a lot of doors for you. But by and large outside of the you can can you maybe your fingers impossible, your toes? David Dillard, where you get the degree from really doesn't matter. Does it? I mean you're going to get that first job, job interview you get the job, it's going to be your track record, who you network with. And also what you know, for most jobs in a very, very small percentage of jobs. There's a prestigious where you went to school could. Be, you know, for medicine or law engineering, the stems, but for most graduates was over ninety percent of them, it doesn't really matter where you're getting that degree from will it matters that you get a quality education, but I had seen too many students, you know, having worked with nearly seventy thousand families over the last quarter century, plus. I think too many kids that come from from schools that, that are not at the top of the US news and World Report and end up building businesses that hire people that graduated from Harvard. Right. So, so there's more than one track to take it would be best for students in, in, in all students are the same. The key is whatever environment. You're in well network build relationships. Get get the education in preparation that you need to, to, to help show up for work early and leave late. And how about paying attention and act like you care, or not being entitled to me, I would rather have a college grant or even a college grad, I would rather have a worker like that. Then someone who feels entitled because they got their degree from privilege school. They're going to go farther than another person's. Yes. And those are skills you learn in kindergarten. Show up. You gotta work. You gotta put your nose to your shoulder to the wheel. David Dylan is with Katie college prep. He's accounts prep expert. And this is going to thank you, your parent of a kid, who's headed towards college, and that would be the college board who administers, the SAT exam, which is the end all be all when it comes to getting into school, they're going to add something called in adversity score. Basically, it's a calculation a proprietary formula. I'm guessing based on where you live based on your neighborhood, the quality of your school, and a whole bunch of factors that go into giving you, I guess, in a I would say an advantage on the SAT. Do we know exactly what that would be isn't more time to take the task you get a certain number of points? How would the how do you factor? In adversity scoring to a test. It's not a direct relationship. It they're not adding. From your your tests. Specifically they're there. It's a separate score reported along with your SAT score on their dashboard. So that, so the college can see your score and then get a sense of the adversity that you may have faced create that score. Shouldn't that and always has been, but why isn't this the job of the college last time, I checked, if you're taking the SAT, it's whether you know, the answer to a math, a science a history in English question doing an essay, I, it's, it's the memorization rote memorization a lot of it and spitting back what you learn over your substantial undergraduate life as, as a as a high school student. So that's the SAT. Why is he examined provider, addressing economic hardships? Shouldn't a college be responsible for doing that? Well, the college does, and they, they take those types of, of issues into consideration admission process. This isn't it. It is it is. I guess it is because it is making it easier for them to take these things into consideration research. I mean, the the actual amount of time that they're spending on each application is, is relatively small, they're not spending hours on every kid. And so this is this is a quick way for them to get some context of, of the student's background. They have always been taking these types of things in consideration. They're getting a profile on every high school that's being sent with a transcript. So they know the, the environment to some degree, but and, and they know the schools in general. They know the backgrounds of the schools because they're accepting students from the Saint schools year after year. But, but this is trying to take it to another notch way for college to try to endear themselves and keep them sell. Relevant. So, so there are a lot of other agendas going, this has nothing to do with fairness and balance and getting the right kids. I mean look at happen with Harvard in back back to Harvard discriminate against Asian American applicants, because they held onto to a different in a higher standard. I in people. Well, that's, that's fair. How is that fair? It's not. No, no, no. He said. So, so if, if I have a student who's about to apply to college. I'm I'm just saying. I understand that these things are out there. I still have to perform still have to show my best. So I still have to represent myself will in everything that I do. Let's go do it the older. I get David is someone who has a four year degree the older? I get the dumber, I think colleges. Well, it, it, it is something that, in many cases is preparing. It is giving students, a Lou more time to mature and to understand what their goals might be and to equip themselves. But you and I, both know. There's, there's a lifelong education going on the problem. I have is, why would it cost me forty thousand dollars a year to figure out life? What why would I pay for that? It's something that happens naturally. Anyway. David Dillon with Katie comes from thanks again, for coming on the show today in, in sharing what you know, about this issue. You're welcome. Never great day in happy, Memorial Day is a joke. The older I get a freaking joke. So the SAT the, the college, they're going to somehow reflect your family income, your environment, your educational differences, and all that, to level the playing field offer some parody and certainly, if you come from a disadvantaged background tough. You know it it's extremely difficult. There's no question about it. And I'm not diminishing those who come from troubled backgrounds who come from areas of town, where I don't know. Maybe there's one there's a single parent raising and there's not enough money, your mom or your dad. Whoever it is, is out, busy working or doing whatever and not paying attention to you or even worse. They don't care about you and somehow you're able to rise up academically and be gifted that there should be an opportunity should be factored. But I think that the college should do that. And if the San I'm sorry, we just don't have enough time to do this. Well, wait a minute. How much money are you spending education? And you guys don't have enough time to, to find out what kind of students come into school. Even though you tell us it's important to have that, that resume of all in tearing in philanthropy, and as well as grades in athletics on there too as well. So you have this well rounded application, if you don't have time to look at that one, I do it in the first place. And I think even bigger the net. And here's why I want to work in your calls at five one three seven four nine seven thousand eight hundred the.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

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08:48 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

"Princeton review online at Princeton, review dot com, and a nationally known expert on the entire notion of admission into higher education, but have some calls to take for you here. Let me ask you about the the two methods that were supposedly used here. One involved actually paying off an SAT Proctor. And the other involved faking athletic accomplishment. Your your thoughts on those two approaches were not obviously asking for an endorsement, but simple your thoughts about it. Quite frankly, how how likely you could pull this off. Jim I'm so appreciate the question is just despicable on both both sides from the admission side through the athletic channel. And then and then the SAT and ACT before I mean, I have been an SAT ACT instructor for a long time. And there are a lot of us on this side of the review, and we're just overwhelmed by how despicable this. This whole thing is the real loser. She had a real victims are students who worked really hard both in in highschool for good grades in rigorous courses and did really well on the SAT, and the ACT Biden cells, and you know, being rejected over other students who were dishonest about their applications and on the admission side of the fence, this is really hard to change your perception negative perception is very easy to create you know, in the higher Ed side of the fence. But today change perception that this is a good and a human process is going to be difficult or not only in the next year. But over the next year, I don't in the case of of huffman's daughter is. As reported that she's scored a fourteen twenty honor SAT, which is over four hundred points above her PSAT's. Preliminary test kind of a red flag, not necessarily another. I appreciate the question. Your students that prep eighty regularly candle up, you know, several hundred points, I would want to know that they that they had prepped ahead prep diligently. But the point average doesn't doesn't surprise me. And the really means to two different things they can change the schools that a student can't get into with a big bump in scores and the scholarship dollars associated with those with those those admissions the second call from Don in Albany, Oregon on the Jim Bohannon show with our guest. We're fine. Thank you. Go ahead. I just going to say, it's my understanding that there are people who go to college by a computer. Never having to set foot on a college national college campus. Wondering would they still have to pay some kind of tuition? People who go to college online. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they they pay they pay a fee. I'm not sure how online fees compared with the in person fees mister frantic. Yeah. You it's it's a good question. There are lots of colleges that offer online courses some of them are hybrid courses, which you know, it'd be some in classroom, and then of course, online and there were a couple of years ago. And this might be done what you're referring to you know, mooks which were sort of really large, you know, really large schools where where students would pay either a minimal fee or no fee at all to get that to get. But most of the four year colleges, certainly the ones that we're discussing today, you know, would charge a per credit hour just as you would in the classroom courses as well. All right. Thanks for your call. Don, I note that no no schools have been charged. Do you see any basis for charging school, certainly indicates of of the SAT scores, I suppose schools, frankly, you get you get an SAT score. Mean that's considered a platinum lined. I mean, how can the school say, well, they didn't really get that. I mean, how would you know, you're you're right. You wouldn't know is schools require that students. Applicants would send an official score from them. Whether they're taking the SAT or the ACT or both exams schools require that you submit that that that officials scored directly from from those testing organization, so you're right. They wouldn't know. But as we start to dig into the allegations of this of this story as you were saying at the beginning part of our discussion, you know, this is really the breath and depth of this kind of scheme is just staggering even for folks like myself have been higher education for a long time. It it is it boggles the imagination Charles in southern Illinois joins us. Hello, charles. Hello, john. Nice to hear you again. Thank you. My question for you. And your guest is what surprises you more about. This is that they did or that they were actually caught. Well, I'll be I'll give a quick answer. And then the educated answer for Mr. frantic that they that. They did it I suppose nothing much surprises me anymore. My my cynicism is is a deep and abiding that they got caught I'm pleased that they did. I honestly would have would have thought it would be rather difficult to pull this off. And and not get caught Mr. reineck. Yeah. I totally. I totally agree. You know, the idea around. Wow. This could happen that they could actually do this. The, you know, do this act is despicable things that we've been discussing around college admission testing as well as the actual admission to to a school. There's such frenzy around college admission, you know, over the last few years, you know, even over the last decade, we could we could say that frenzy really exists for the one hundred most competitive, college and universities in the country. So there is some south. We can take a breath that that, you know, this is a certain subject subset of schools. Many of those names we will no one. No. Well, but then just a, you know. Again, how endemic I don't think this is an endemic to the to to college admission in general, but the breadth and depth again as we were saying is really just staggering. And how could they not be caught because of that? All right reform. Of course, we all want a quick answer. Give us an instant remedy. I'm not sure there is one. But if you have any thoughts, please let us know. Incident. Remedy. I wish that there was one. But the thing that we go back to with the Princeton review is saying visibility in the process, right? The college process is a noble ineffable process as we talked about. There are quantitative metrics GPA regret of courses, SAT and ACT scores. Even SAT subject tests for those schools that are requiring them, but then the human process of college admission is there as well. I've been working for a long time in higher education for many years. And I still believe that this is a human process that is access that has access to all students. Not just the wealthiest students with the best advice and guidance, but truly any students. Well. Do we overemphasize testing? Because I mean, let's face it a a c plus at some high schools is the equivalent of an A at some other high schools. You can't just go. Great point. You're absolutely right. And just the. SAT ACT are deeply flawed exams. You know, and I think he Jim you, and I talked about that in the past, but they are a blunt instrument that is still useful to nearly two thousand three thousand four year colleges in the US because you're right schools are all created equal. You know, if you grew up in Chicago, I grew up in New York City, one of your listeners grew up in southern California. The likelihood that all three of our schools would be exactly the same would have the same offerings. We grew up in the same community would be nil. So we need or many schools still say that they need be it, you know, a blunt instrument and a slot instrument. An SAT ACT fulfills that standardized tool that we can use to level the playing field for all students, would you expect ramifications down the road of the prosecutions are going to be major changes in college, admissions methodology. I don't I don't know if we're gonna see a method methodological change. But what we will. See I am sure that we're already seeing it today is much more visibility into this process. I think schools certainly those named in the well the school names in the indictment as you had said before it was the coaches and some other professionals there, no schools renaming the diamond, but some schools that were incorporated, or, you know, named named at least in part of this case, we are hearing it from their university chancellors and of mission saying, this is our process. It is a human process that we stick by. We are a moral and ethical organization, and we are going to stick to the rules that we have signed up for it the beginning. And I think we're going to hear that message continuously Robert frantic editor-in-chief at Princeton review dot com. Back in a moment. WB AP being able to hear what's going on in the world around us is important to your health long-term. Maybe you have elderly parents where their risk of falling increases with hearing loss. It can also lead to more serious problems like Alzheimer's and dementia material solutions out there at Carson hearing, Karen. In Fort.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

06:29 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"College can't not we'll call us campus. But you're wondering would they still have to pay some kind of tuition? People who go to college online. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they they pay the pay a fee. I'm not sure how online fees compared with the in person fees mister frantic. Yeah. You it's it's a good question. There are lots of Scott colleges that offer online courses some of them are hybrid courses, which you know, it'd be some in classroom, and then of course, online and there were a couple of years ago. And this might be done what you're referring to you know, mooks which were sort of really large really large schools where where students would pay either a minimal fee or no fee at all to get that to get that content. But most of the four year colleges, certainly the ones that we're discussing today, you know, with charge a per credit hour, just as you would in the classroom courses as well. All right. Thanks for your call. Don, I note that no no schools have been charged. Do you see any basis for charging school, certainly in the case of of the SAT scores, I suppose schools, frankly, you get you get an SAT score. I mean, that's considered platinum lined. I mean, how can school say well, but they didn't really get that. I mean, how would you know, you're right. You wouldn't know schools require that students. Applicants would send it official score from them. Whether they're taking the SAT or the ACT or both exams require that you submit that that that officials scored directly from from the testing organization, so you're right. They wouldn't know. But as we start to dig into the allegations of this of this story as you were saying at the beginning part of our discussion, you know, this is really the breath and depth of this kind of scheme is just staggering even for like myself have been higher education for a long time. Now, it it is it boggles the imagination Charles in southern Illinois joins us Charles nice to hear you again. Thank you. My question for you. And your guest is what surprises you more about. This is that they did or that they were actually caught. Well, I'll I'll be I'll give a quick answer. And then get the education dancer for Mr. frantic that they did it I suppose nothing much surprises me anymore. My cynicism is is a deep and abiding. If they got caught I'm pleased that they did. I honestly would have would have thought it would be rather difficult to pull this off. And and not get caught frantic. Yeah. I totally. I totally agree. You know, the idea around. Wow. This could happen that they could actually do this do this act. These despicable things that we've been discussing around college admission testing as well as the actual admission to to a school. You know, there's such frenzy around college admission, you know, over the last few years, you know, even over the last decade, we could we could say friendy really exists for the one hundred most competitive, college and universities in the country. So there is some solace. We can't take a breath that that, you know, this is a certain subject subset of schools. Many of those names we will no one. No, well, but then just the, you know, again, how endemic I don't think this is an endemic to the to to the college admission in general, but the breadth and depth again as we were saying is really just staggering. And how could they not be caught because of that? All right reform. Of course, we all want a quick answer. Give us an instant remedy. I'm not sure there is one. But if you have any thoughts, please let us know. Remedy. I wish that there was one. But we go back to the Princeton review is saying visibility in the process, right? The college process is a noble ineffable process as we talked about. There are quantitative metrics GPA rigor of courses, SAT and ACT scores. Even SAT subject tests for those schools that are requiring them, but then the human process of college admission is there as well. I've been working housing mission for a long time and in higher education for many years, and I still believe that this is a human process that is accessed that has access to all students not just the wealthiest students with the best advice and guidance, but truly tha EMMY student as well. Do we overemphasize testing? Because I mean, let's face it a C plus at some high schools is the equivalent of an A at some other high schools. You can't just go. Great point. You're absolutely right. And generally, the SAT ACT deeply flawed exams. You know, and I think he Jim you, and I talked about that in the past, but they are a blunt instrument that is still useful to nearly two thousand three thousand four year colleges in the US because you're right schools are all not created equal. If you grew up in Chicago, I grew up in New York City, one of your listeners grew up in southern California. The likelihood that all three of our schools would be exactly the same would have the same offerings. We grew up in the same community. Right. It would be nil. So we need or many schools still say that they need out. Be it a, you know, a blunt instrument and a flawed instrument an SAT ACT fulfills that standardized tool that we can use to level the playing field for all students, would you expect ramifications down the road of the prosecutions are going to be major changes in college, admissions methodology. I don't I don't know if we're gonna see a method methodological change. But what we will see I am sure thing today is much more visibility into this process. I think schools certainly those named in the well the school named in the indictment as you had said before it was the coaches and some other professional there, no school renaming the diamond, but some schools that were incorporated, or, you know, named named at least in part of this case, we're hearing it from their university chancellors and their deans of admission saying, this is our process, it is a human process that we stick by. We are a moral and ethical organization, and we are going to stick to the rules that we have signed up for it the beginning. We're going to hear that message continuously Robert traffic editor-in-chief at Princeton, review dot com. Back in a moment. VR? Family. The high folks Tim Waiheke here, and if you're an RV enthusiasts, you know, it's RV Showtime across all the midwest. The RV show is are in full swing..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA

NewsRadio 1020 KDKA

08:25 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA

"Princeton review online at Princeton, review dot com, and a nationally known expert on the entire notion of admission into higher education, but have some calls to take for you here. Let me ask you about the the two methods that were supposedly used here. One involved actually paying off an SAT Proctor. The other involved faking athletic accomplishment. Your your thoughts on those two approaches were not obviously asking for an endorsement, but simply your thoughts about the quite frankly, how how likely you could pull this off. Oh, boy, Jim I'm so appreciate the question is just despicable on both both sides from the admission side through the athletic channel. And then the SAT ACT before I I mean, I have been an SAT ACT instructor for a long time. And there are a lot of us on the side of the Princeton review. And we're just overwhelmed by how despicable this this whole thing. And I think you know, the real losers. The real victims are students who worked really hard both in in high school for you know, good grades in rigorous courses and did really well on the SAT, and the ACT Biden cells, and you know, being rejected over other students were dishonest about it applications and on the admission side of the fence, this is really hard to change your perception negative perception is very easy to create you know, in the higher Ed side of the fence. But to then change perception that this is a good and a human process is going to be difficult or not only the next year. But over the next year, I know in the case of of huffman's daughter is. Reported that she scored a fourteen twenty on her SAT, which is over four hundred points above her PSAT's the preliminary test kind of a red flag, not necessarily another. I appreciate the question. Your students that prep eight regularly candle up, you know, several hundred points, I would want to know that they that they had prepped ahead prep diligently. But the point average doesn't doesn't surprise me. And the really means to two different things that you can change the schools that a student can get into with big bump and scores and the scholarship dollars associated with those with those those admissions, let's take a call from Don in Albany, Oregon on the Jim Bohannon show with our guest. We're fine. Thank you. Go ahead. Just going to say, it's my understanding that there are people who go to college by computer. Never having to set foot on a college campus. Wondering would they still have to pay some kind of tuition? People who go to college online. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they they pay they pay a fee. I'm not sure how online fees compared with the in person fees. Mr frantic. Yeah, you it's it's a good question. There are lots of Scott colleges that offer online courses some of them are hybrid courses, which you know, it'd be some in classroom, and then of course, online and there were a couple of years ago. And this might be done what you're referring to you know, mooks which were sort of really large really large schools where we're students would pay either a minimal fee or no fee at all to get that to get that content. But most of the four year colleges, certainly the ones that we're discussing today, you know, would charge a per credit hour just as you would in the classroom courses as well. All right. Thanks for your call. Don. I I note that no no schools have been charged. Do you see any basis for charging school, certainly in the case of the SAT scores, I suppose schools, frankly, you get you get an SAT score. I mean. Oh, that's considered platinum line. I mean, how can the school say well, but they didn't really get that. I mean, how would you know, you're you're right. You wouldn't know schools require that students. Applicants would send an official score from them. Whether they're taking the SAT or the ACT or both exams require that you submit that that that officials scored directly from from those testing organization, so you're right. They wouldn't know. But as we start to dig into the allegations of this of this story as you were saying at the beginning part of our discussion, you know, this is really the breadth and depth of this kind of scheme is just staggering even for folks like myself have been higher education for a long time. Yeah, it it. Is it boggles the imagination Charles in southern Illinois joins us, fellow Charles. Hello, john. Nice to hear you again. Thank you. My question for you. And your guest is what surprises you more about. This is that they did or that they were actually caught. Well, I'll I'll be I'll give a quick answer. And then get the educated answer for Mr. frantic that they that. They did it I suppose nothing much surprises me anymore. My cynicism is is a deep and abiding that they got caught I'm pleased that they did. I honestly would have would have thought it would be rather difficult to pull this off. And and not get caught Mr. reineck. Yeah. I totally. I totally agree. You know, the idea around why how this could happen that they could actually do this. Do this act is despicable things that we've been discussing around college admission testing as well as the actual admission to to a school. There's such frenzy around college admission, you know, over the last few years even over the last decade, we could we could say that frenzy really exists for the one hundred most competitive, college and universities in the country. So there is some solace. We can't take a breath that that, you know, this is a certain subset of schools. Many of those names we will no one. No, well, but then just a, you know. Again, how endemic I don't think this is an endemic to the to to the college admission in general, but the breadth and depth again as we were saying is really just staggering. And how could they not be caught because of that? All right reform. Of course, we all want a quick answer. Give us an instant remedy. I'm not sure there is one. But if you have any thoughts, please let us know. Remedy. I wish that there was one. But the thing that we go back to the Princeton review was saying visibility in the process, right? The college process is a knowable inevitable process as we talked about. There are quantitative metrics GPA courses, SAT and ACT scores. Even SAT subject tests for those schools that are requiring them, but then the human process of college admission is there as well. I've been working how mission for a long time and in higher education for many years. And I still believe that this is a human promises that is access that has access to all students. Not just the wealthiest students with the best advice and guidance, but truly EMMY student well. Do we overemphasize testing? Because I mean, let's face it a a c plus at some high schools is the equivalent of an A at some other high schools. You can't just go on grade point. You're absolutely right. And. ACT are deeply flawed exams. You know, and I think Jim you, and I have talked about that in the past, but they are a blunt instrument that is still useful to nearly two thousand three thousand four year colleges in the US because you're right schools. Are all not created equal you if you grew up in Chicago, I grew up in New York City, one of your listeners grew up in southern California. The likelihood that all three of our schools would be exactly the same would have the same offerings. We grew up in the same community would be nil. So we need or many schools still say that they need albeit a, you know, a blunt instrument and a flawed instrument an SAT ACT fulfills that standardized tool that we can use to level the playing field for all students, would you expect ramifications down the road of the prosecutions are going to be major changes in college, admissions methodology, I don't I don't know if we're going to see a method methodological change. But what we will see I am sure that we're already seeing it today is much more visibility into this process. I think schools certainly those. Well, the school names in the indictment as you had said before it was the coaches and some other professionals there, no schools renaming the diamond, but some schools that were incorporated, or, you know, named named at least in part of this case, we're hearing it from their university. Chancellors deans of admission saying, this is our process, it is as human process that we stick by. We are moral and ethical organization, and we are going to stick to the rules that we have signed up for it the beginning. And I.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

10:29 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"If you've got a kid of a certain age or are about to. You can't start planning right now. I know your kids, by way, we are. We got the five twenty nine going. I wish I had done that. I never did that. That's a great idea. Play. You're starting to think about where they're gonna go. What are they gonna do? We're talking about best value colleges. And when we start talking about that stuff, we talked to our good friend. Rob frantic from the Princeton review. Ron was pleasure. How you doing buddy? Hey, fellas. Really good. Thanks for the invite back. So I wished I had to five point nine grade point average as well. So rob when we're talking about value colleges around the area, and we're in right here. We're at it's a weird location because we got the tri-state so high obviously can tell Kentucky Indiana what around this area. Let's say within a hundred mile proximity hundred. Let's make it a hundred and fifty because I don't include Columbus and Louisville and Lexington and all that stuff. Oh, yeah. Oh, many. There's only two hundred schools in in the book. And then just as we called best value colleges. Two thirds of which are private the other third are are public. There are nine of them. You know, high oh alone. And we started out in in in the past from university of Dayton, Ohio state child big personal favorite Case, Western I I think Cleveland, they're just so many schools, but some of them. Mistake. Many students, and parents who are college bound make crossing inexpensive school off of their consideration. For free out what the dollar scholarship perspective could actually make that school more affordable than a local public local City College. Yeah. Rob frantic is our guest to rob. We talked about that before. And what my kid just did. And he's always said he wanted to go to UC. But I'm so do yourself favor. You're going to stay in Ohio. That's all I care about this because I don't want to pay the out of state thing. And I like go tour around looking a few schools. Well, yeah. Okay. Blah, blah, blah, blah, sent in his whatever resume, whatever you call it to UC, and oh you and he was going to send some other stuff out. Oh, you accepted him soon. As you see k goes, I'm going to UC. Good idea though to make almost gonna make them go. But there's nothing there that necessarily is what you wanna do. But go look at it. Anyway. Absolutely. You have to think about a wide range of three thousand four year colleges in the US alone. You're right. That's the one thing you might think about in your freshman and sophomore your high school since you're a little kid could ultimately that'd be the best fit for you. But there are other candidates out there that can be fit on several levels, academics culture. And then what we're focusing on investigating colleges it late fit and a career services would argue getting great return on your academic. And then and then you and your parents financial investment if you're. Romi SU. This our colleges in general are d- do their tuitions in again in general, keep going up and reason I asked I am pretty vocal about this. Everyone always talks about how you the detriment that is college loan debt, it cripples a lot of people people still north thirties can't pay it off. And I feel like the school's always just skate free. They keep raising tuition rates intuition. You know, take my alma mater, fringes Notre Dame. Right. They're all raising tuition. They got a thirteen point one billion dollar endowment raise. I mean, am I mean Harvard is twenty two twenty three billion dollar endowment where do these schools going to start getting some flack for continuing to raise rates when they have more money than God. I totally hear you and just to give you know, some broad brush BUSTER college tuition has actually leveled off slightly over the last three or four years. But when we first started a couple years ago college tuition would increase in time two to three times the rate of inflation every year for twenty years and that ended about three or four years ago where it started to level off that you're right. I mean when we to look at bicker costs there's so many Notre Dame being a good example, those schools are approaching sixty sixty five seventy thousand dollars NYU here. I live in New York City, seventy four thousand dollars versus southern California seventy five thousand dollars. So so those are just walked. But the truth is that there are some of those many of those schools that have the financial wherewithal literates endowment or just good clear planning. I know. Listen to books number nineteen hundred school in Ohio University, huge favorite of ours. Adventure financial aid can sicker costs. Locked then dollars after students and parent to make affordable the abbot in rob. What is the Kazan? We've talked about this before. But I think is good to continue to inform people. What's the best way apparent can can look at a college and see what sort of incentives, they give back because I feel like there's so many things that you're trying to digest. But it was the best way is it. Okay. If I if we'd get this this, and this we can get whatever, you know, four five six grand off that make your head spin, man. You try to go through all can't nuts. Absolutely. And I'm so glad that you've. That's why we do. I mean that might review that's have simply done the homework. Four college from their parents, and countless helping them along the way because likely although it's probably not going to invest in any usable state for the average parent. And you're right three thousand schools is overwhelming. We started with a thousand schools is a first cut off of it. And then what did it down to the two hundred? But let me tell you. It's a great financial aid each one of those two hundred school, and then you can look at your cancer. You can look at things like sticker caught average loan. Didn't you take me out, and then average merit based scholarship money? They don't have to pay back and our students getting chops after graduation better absorption. Yes. That's that's a key factor as well. People want to know more where can they go? What can they do? Apple. I mean prince review dot com, certainly has all the information that we talked about it. You'll see a big logo for the book that college. It's available in bookstores and online nationwide. Thanks, buddy. Always a pleasure. Thanks again. Thanks, rob. For an the Princeton review says soon, you did all that that you check up all the different ways. The or maybe more limited when it's in state. I gotta tell you. What we yeah. Yeah. But I got to tell you that was all Deb's thing because he he did it all why initially when Jack was going to school. I went through all this stuff and all those loans, and all the things you can apply for and you find out pretty quickly that a lot of it's not applicable to you. You know, you don't qualify, you're overqualified. And it doesn't take much to overqualified. Let me tell you that right now. And so she knew the drill. So now that Lucas senior going through it, all and bub-bubba. And like I said he's always wanted to go to UC don't know what it is his buddies are going there, his brother goes there, and for whatever reason to appeal storm. So am I gonna make them go someplace, you gotta go in butter your, but at the same time, but all the colleges more or less are of the same cost factor. Like, I mentioned, oh, you talk about some of the I mean Dayton is too is too expensive for our blood that type of thing. You know, you ain't gonna go there, but Ohio states reasonable as for him. What he talks about reasonable, whatever you call reasonable, right? Ohio state. Oh, you Cincinnati Ohio. Toledo all this. It's all basically the same. It's a wash. Okay. So just kind of going to the place has the majors you like has an important to you. Whether it's a smaller student body bigger student body stuff. And like I said, I think there's a comfort factor involved being around home is going to live on campus. I don't agree with it. He doesn't know this. He look if you're listening. Here's I presented this to my wife. I go what if I buy him a car, a new car, and he doesn't live on campus. And he lives at home, and drives it. What do you think about that offer? I think that's a pretty damn finder. That's a pretty good. I mean because he's going to save you money in terms of paying. I mean, I'm sure he's probably kicking something. So he would that would save him money on that. Right. So that's a pretty good deal. I dunno throwing it out there, especially if you've got some buddies, and this is kind of what I did like Notre Dame. As an athlete you can't live off campus until your senior year. Now, even my senior year. I kept kept my dorm a single on campus. Just because I was leaving. I was going training for calm offshore stuff. So I just didn't want to have the hassle with retinal that, but was great as I had my own like space where I get some peace and quiet. But then my buddies had the apartment that go there, we racket tear it up, and then I go home and maybe sleeping in filthy cesspool. When I'd go home and do this. He should look at it like that go gear buddies. Let them have the party house. Do all that nonsense. You go there reap all the benefits. And then we all the benefits of staying at home with you, do you realize we've been working together for a year and a half now steadily. And we've known each other for better part of four or five years. And you think for one second I believe you went over to that room by yourself to quote, unquote, meditate get away. Nine hours. I was born night. It wasn't last night as they say, they're rob. What do you have from the UC health traffic center? Looking for a primary care doctor near you. We can help call five one three four seven five eight thousand one that's four seven five eight thousand one. Westbound seventy four is backed up due to an earlier car fire from past the Brookville exit over to the Indiana, Ohio State line. You're also slow nor seventy-five from the lateral to paddock south seventy five Mitchell to seventy four then liberty to the bridge and a few accidents in this afternoon Jefferson at Brookline and Martin Luther King at Clifton. I'm rob Williams. Newsradio seven hundred wwl w. The forecast from the seven hundred wwl w weather center for tonight. More clouds moving in chance of snow showers..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

04:46 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"So it means a lot to me. Listen, I was like a kid, you know, everybody here. Mas. My friends. Lot to me, and they were here against Charlotte as well. Then I came out just cooking. I'm like, no matter what the Hornets sewage. Sixers do he says like I'm here to play for my family, my teammates. So it's just the Christmas period. Hello, Kyrie Irving. And I know for a guy that hit a soul-crushing shot in oracle that basically snatched the Larry O'Brien trophy away from the cold. Stay warriors. I don't think that Kyrie Irving merits lot of animosity from warriors fans 'cause he's so damn good. And just watching kyri breakdown guys off the dribble. The way a tax the Cup. I mean, obviously Steph comes to mind as one of the best in the game to do it. You know, Alan Iverson, a little more under-sized, of course. But there's just you know, that shortlist of guys, and it's not like the harden attacking a he's just looking to initiate contact and get two free throws. Hiring is looking to finish at the ladies got range. I mean, what a what an absolute fine for the Boston Celtics to be able to consummate that trade with the Cavs. That will go down as one of the worst trades in Cavs history. I think in just another example of a guy wanted to get out from LeBron James thumb while I respect what Toronto has been able to do. This year. And they're clearly a better team with quite Leonard. Anytime you can out finals MVP, that's obviously a very positive development. I still think that it's the Sixers and the Celtics in the east I really do. And that's why yesterday's game on Christmas day. I think was the Eastern Conference finals preview. Now, maybe Toronto is gonna show us something different this time around because they got some new faces there, and and don't sleep on the job The Danny Green's done there. And you know, guys coming off the bench like Feddie, Freddie, vanfleet mean, they're they're a deep team. And they're going to be a tough out for anybody that has to play them. But you know, when I just look at the way the Eastern Conference is constructed now. You know, the box. Clearly, you can't sleep on them with Janas, and they're learning how to win they're seven and three in their last ten I know the Pacers have become an on strong and depot to me is a guy who's taken his game somewhere. Where I I wasn't sure that he could be the central point of a team in a superstar deleted team like that. But I think only depot is I know they got other other star players there, of course. But. It really comes down to the Sixers and the Celtics for me. It does. They're the deepest teams. And matter of fact, since Jimmy Butler arrived there thirteen and seven are the Sixers and in the NBA nine hundred nine out. And this is the same reason why I believe in the warriors. And because I've seen them when three thousand four years talent, man. And I think the Sixers and the Celtics have more talent than anybody else. The playoff failures of the Sixers last couple of years trying to get over that LeBron hump. I think are going to serve them. Well, we've seen him play the dubs tough in the regular season. Every year. Now, the Sixers on the other hand to me. The Jimmy Butler acquisition was so important for them because they needed somebody to kind of police that locker room. Now, you could argue that Jimmy Butler isn't the guy to do that. But it because you know, he's demanded to trades in like two years. So there's that. But I think with Joel Embiid being a young player. He's a superstar. He's an agnostic. But I also think he still has a lot of learning to do a lot of maturing to do a lot of growing to do. And look no further than post-game yesterday's teams. Just lost the game in overtime. Normally look at the warriors when they lose yesterday guys. I gotta be better. We didn't do enough guys say I need to be better in this area that area. It's not. Oh, yeah. They didn't get Iraq. That's embiid. And that's why while he's a great player. He still needs to find the next level of maturity, and maybe that'll come with time. Or maybe that's just we is. Let's hear from Embiid yesterday. I didn't really like his post-game comments Cairo airman's loved him having fun families Aaron about to act up. That's great. That's what the NBA's all about show me baby. Joel Embiid, not so much. Like, I could have done more being the ball farm in over Tom. So in those situations, and I got ashore. But then also I gotta be pushing the licensure she has to be able to live. I wasn't in the license. So. Could have done more. We lost. This.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

08:08 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"I interview at different exonerate every week and help them to tell their incredible stories of tragedy and triumph against impossible. Odds you've got to hear it to believe it wrongful conviction from iheart studios. Available now, I heart radio. Like me. And you got a kid who's a senior in high school starting to think about what they wanna do in college. If they indeed do want to go to college, right? Look, this is important because I think choosing a college choosing what you wanna do with your life. There's a balance between doing what you love, and what you want to do and following that pursuit. But also considering you know, financially how much is that going to bring you because there are things out there. If you get a fine arts degree, right? That's that's fantastic. If that's what you wanna do. But as something that may not pay a ton of money, and again, there's not a right or wrong answer. But I think sometimes people need to see the differences in that right summer, high are in high demand, and you step right into a six figure job others as you said, you know, after a while you might make thirty five forty grand right nothing wrong with that. But you know, what you're getting into war. Yeah. And here to discuss David soda from the Princeton review. David welcome aboard. Hey, get to hear you. We talk to you guys all the time usually about different schools, and such but David talking here about majors stuff the two kids going to pursue what they wanna pursue. Boy, you kind of want to steer them in a certain direction too. Don't you? Absolutely. You hit. You hit the nail on the head. I mean, just finding a school to send your your son or daughter to is is a tap gonna sell to three thousand four year institutions in the country are just whittling down that list of single one or group of five you might want to apply to you is hard. Then when you get to school figuring out the right major it certainly a task. Luckily for those students, and parents there's a ton of information out there for them, including now salary information on what those majors might pay you after you graduate. So it's a noble process. It's a teachable process, but certainly daunting at the beginning now David is there a degree or a field of study that has just exploded where maybe five ten years ago there wasn't a demand for? But now it's kind of the thing to go go into because there's not a lot of people gravitating toward that. Yeah. I think there's a a buzzword out there right now, it's called stem. So it stands for science technology, engineering and math what we've seen over the past. I would say ten years or so is a real explosion in the in this area. So students are really gravitating towards this area. And I think part of it is being driven by a little bit of fear. So since the financial collapse in two thousand eight students have parents are really realizing that you know, we we better choose a major and choose choose a career that's gonna really help pay for this expensive education. So I think there's a real practical move, I wouldn't urge all students and parents to go into stem certainly humanities are on the decline, but I would say that they're still holding steady. So I wouldn't discourage a student from going into a creative field. But I think they should be armed with the information. They need to know again to help paper college and be gainfully employed afterward, the humanities you mentioned is is that just gradually just going to kind of a whittled away. And I even be taught in schools anymore because we're seeing that at the height at the junior high and high school level. Yeah. I think there is a there is a decline, and I think part of it again is driven by a real practical sense of I will I will have a job after after I graduate will this sticker price. It's a pretty hefty sticker crisis. That's he's four years schools. Will it be? Will it be worth it? I think that in the long haul. I think humanity is are certainly here to stay. They're not gonna go anywhere. But I think you will see new major start start trickle up whether it's data analytics or one of these stem degrees. We put out a list of forty eight majors in a book that we do. Call best value colleges. Some of the major things here a relatively new some have been around forever, petroleum engineering. For example, students for earning about ninety five thousand a year nursing students really reputable field fifty eight thousand a year political science. So so these degrees are still familiar, but there are a lot of decrease cropping up to kind of. Kind of fuel that that creativity and that interest from from new students parents now David every day. There's articles coming out about automation and robots AI is taken over or jobs knows game. Many jobs are there any robot-proof degrees out there. If you could recommend to people will you be giving us a great idea for a new ranking lists, the we're we're gonna we're we're going to start working on that percents. Go ahead. I do think I do think that the jobs are safe, but again mentioning the stem stem degrees. I mean, I think those are those are very real science technology, engineering and math and acting students are learning these skills at a very early age. I've got a nephew who's in eighth grade now, and he he knows more about computers than than I do. He's taking the programming courses that he's he's really learning. I think the skill he'll need to succeed not only in high school. But but in college and beyond so, I wouldn't I wouldn't be worried about losing losing your job quite yet. But I think it's it's really important to. Tuck kind of arm your little ones with with the information that they need to succeeding in high school and college and beyond how about a medical degree. You know, you hear so much about you don't know what's going to happen aging baby, boomer, right? But as far as you know, the whole field goes and how we're going to get coverage. The whole insurance thing we don't know what's going to happen in the next ten years. And and I'm hearing some of these doctors, it's the it's not worth it to him. Yeah. It's it's an interesting point. And you know, I mentioned nursing fifty eight thousand dollar starting salary another stat that we report out that I think is really worth mentioning, you know, acting people tend to be star struck with these salary numbers. We collect this data point called high. Meaning so meaning that, you know, I'm satisfied with my job. I'd like what I'm actually doing nursing graduates and students on average are reporting eighty two percent Heim meeting in their careers. So I think there's something to be set for that equally. Physician's assistants are earning eighty eight thousand upon graduation and similarly have an eighty two percent hijab beating after graduation. So I think the medical field is is is strong. But I think you're seeing a lot of students and parents moving into that area. Physician assistant nursing or nursing degrees. David last is there a degree out there kind of a Corky? One people don't really think about but boy, you can you can make money at it. It's a good question. I mean, I think some of them some of them though, that we think about here at the at the Princeton review a game design is a is a new major that we are paying close attention. There's lots of applicability across all different types of types of discipline. So we do a ranking list on game design, and again, my eighth grade nephew is so excited about that. Because he can tell his parents now, listen, I can get a game design degree and earn seventy thousand dollars right out of college. And their parents are shaking their heads saying that. A degree you're going into. But there is legitimate. There is legitimacy there. And certainly it's a it's a an area that's growing pretty fast. There's some schools that are offering scholarships for game design. Actually game play play. Yeah. It could be an NC double A's four before you know, it. I mean, I think the the gaming industry is really really picked up a lot of momentum. And we're we're kind of trying to stay on top of it and provide students appearance with the advice to apply and get into those colleges because there's a lot of them out there. Now, we.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Mason & Ireland

Mason & Ireland

03:47 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Mason & Ireland

"There have always been dynasties. There have always been teams that dominated the league for several years like this is not new at all. If anything, this is a pretty darn good era because yes, the warriors are a dynasty. Yes, they are kind of. There's not a lot of suspense once we get to the finals, but most of the time the Reagan, she's pretty darn good. Agree. Pretty interesting. Like the Lakers one they had to. They had three Petes. The bulls won six titles. The Celtics won ten like this is not new at all. If you look at somebody like Malone instructor. Like the bad luck. They had of not just running up against Jordan's bulls, but they had the Showtime Lakers. They had the pistons that went back to back rockets that went back to back. They had the Spurs that would win like every other year, every few years it's always been dominated by a handful of teams, and it's what era did you play in and who ruined your chances of winning. I mean, that's, you know, with Michael, that was why Michael Jordan had such a great career art because he could never beat the pistons. And then he finally beat the pistons because he changed and he got his teammates involve a great narrative arc. That's this, and it took like a long time and nobody said the pistons are ruining the NBA. I mean, this is just the difference now is we have a much higher metabolism for storylines for narratives for teams or anything like this and what you like most people you watch the show and the first season's. Good. And then by like season two, Westworld, whatever, mister robot. I couldn't get a barely made it through season to bear shows. Yeah, just we don't have people. Sustain anything any longer because you had this like exciting time in your life. This one time when the first it's like the when everything came together and then you can't sustain it. The fact of the warriors have won. They won three thousand four years. That's actually a pretty darn that's a long run. But in the in the context of NBA history, they're just they haven't done anything yet. The comments though that he had about the culture in youngster, you've been around that team absolute. I -gree with him. How close do you think the Lakers are to building their culture and getting to get into the place where they want to be? Well, that is a great question because it is not about what just happened the summer with just the biggest thing that happened to the front. They built a culture that LeBron wanted to join, but the culture's going to change and it already has changed overnight like the culture that Luke Walton built and I gave lucado the credit because the two guys hired him are no longer here. And I would say, you know, magic and rob, like as much as they get some credit for it. Weren't on the ground floor. This is really Luke Walton culture. Yes, just like it was Steve Kerr culture. Right? And even even the Steve Kerr comparison is not quite valid because he took over from our Jackson who had laid some of the foundation for this. I think like that had that was a great young culture that had been built, and he finally had turned the corner on it pro second have last year. After the whole nine game losing streak where they turned it around the and you know, guys really started to believe that he would pull them out if they play defense, the count ability started to be there. They were winning with whoever they would put in their tolerance with star point guard this still win, Alex Crusoe not not so saying anything bad about the ball mom by now you have an affinity for any of the ball guys who, but boy like that was when things started to change, you didn't have to have the stars that was like a sustainable culture that that succeeds no matter who's in the line. Do you think it's there yet? No, not even close. Yeah, because there's a lot of people who are going to say, well, clearly it's been established because LeBron joined and obviously getting LeBron's a big part of the, you know, it's a big part of the puzzle, right? It's a big piece, but the reality is LeBron was going to join in this place was dumpster fire..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on Mickstape: The Barstool Basketball Podcast

Mickstape: The Barstool Basketball Podcast

03:14 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on Mickstape: The Barstool Basketball Podcast

"You can most of the time. There are some stills of old, ask venues that will not allow this, but most of the time probably we're probably reaching like eighty percent Mark. You could just aloe the tickets right to your phone. So you could be like at the event, like k, I'd like to go into this building is by the tickets. They download your phone, they scan it. You go right in like I used to be that person, so I get it. It's like, as you're going into a game, you see, some, I like fumbling pulling out paper tickets, like unfolding MSI, man. Oh, man. Just the sound gap. What are you doing? I always wonder where that person like, got that printed see that that was really why quit doing it. I was always like Manno ma'am. Phones gonna fill, and I'm not going to be able to see. Milkman gopher three thousand four years. Let me proud this paper and let me go to Staples pronounces payback. You know what? Let me just get the gig is a good idea by me. Yeah, that's well, like I, we kinda live through the entire printer generation. It was like. Did you ever have like the perforated edge? Is that you have to rip off yourself? Oh, yeah. Yes. There was that piece of shit. And then there are the incredibly slow ones that would like shake back there were sexually just typewriters doing it for you. Yeah. Like I don't know how many reams of black white paper. I bought my life but way too many that again, save some trees. Please. Do the right thing with this ten dollars, you save promo code tape and put it right in the hands of a mother and father milkman. Given us so much. So much, the least you can do is promise that in input right in there. Yeah, they've given the world a gift now, rare that is. Very rare. Our other, our other friend who wanted to sponsor this particular program. Is MVM t. we've already talked about once on this, this particular program. So do the ad fuck. No, you guys have heard me anti-litter talk about MBMD also noticed movement. You know, the two college dropouts may and weather's, oh, wait. Who that started their own watch company. Yes us, yes. This company has grown like, but ENZA and now with a most to 'em watches sold in a hundred sixty plus countries thinking mega millions Coley smoke. They continue to revolutionize fashion on the behalf. That style belief not behalf. We f- would make much sense there on the belief that style shouldn't break the Bank. I agree. They should get into the gold rope, Jane game. Don't step on the end. I don't know if you have checked the site out..

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on The Lowe Post

The Lowe Post

01:32 min | 2 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on The Lowe Post

"The warriors are about to win their third title in four years if you want to separate it into pre katie postgame wherever three thousand four years dave outscored opponents by ten point eight points one hundred possession in the playoffs they the best defense in the playoffs by far that ten point eight number since two thousand fewer of the only teams that have a better playoff scoring margin the spurs in two thousand fourteen plus eleven point six one hundred last season's warriors plus thirteen point six which is the greatest of all time which i didn't realize until i looked this up today and two thousand one flip this which lakers thirteen point five just below the warriors so the warriors three out of four titles two of the four greatest point differentials of the license say twenty years rounded up day it's time to start talking about now they'll have chances to win four out of five five out of six or seven ever where they where they fall historically if they win zooming they win three out of four day pass the heat they pass the bad boys they pass the rockets the probably pull even with or pass the celtics one three and six years the spurs you could frame the spurs lots of different ways the spurs either one five and fifteen years or you colli want is sort of a different year they won four in nine which is pretty damn good.

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"three thousand four years" Discussed on The Bobby Bones Show

The Bobby Bones Show

01:48 min | 3 years ago

"three thousand four years" Discussed on The Bobby Bones Show

"Since i it's twenty teen it's not like the sixties when you were no material first of all i was born in the eighties when were you born kelsey nineteen ninety four snag she wants to be yeah now the snag wow it out on the kids okay so you're born in nineteen ninety four four thousand four hundred laps time here so so you're a new teacher how'd you like twenty four twenty five and twenty three thousand four year old on me the last time again here the ten year ninety four than two to four the of fourteen and eighteen that's twenty four birthday later this year cannot that crazy on born the sixties relax relax at six twenty eighteen it i mean what are they using from back when i was a kid the mountain high school malvern arkansas you got one food then he was on a tray if you're lucky if they didn't just dump it in your hands flop kelsey what is it what are they get to choose let me guess that you'd have duct this your some pop rica style yeah go ahead there's pizza hot dogs sometimes they have chicken and waffles it's like a bag of the many eggo waffles and chicken nuggets that's still walkout acute hey let me ask you this question you talk about what was pizzas square pizza still let me guess square just easiest to bake that way go up to cut that way you just wanted to.

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