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The Sri Lankan Civil War Part 1

Brief History Podcast

34:56 min | 1 year ago

The Sri Lankan Civil War Part 1

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second beatty helps us so pleased associate haven't already make sure very subscribe to back catalogue is available to listen so the first absence day is shrunken civil wars going to be two parter so so we have done previous absolute by side apsar shrine can civil war on the timeline in may wanna listen to that before you listen to this one don't don't worry he won't say you have to accept so can be listened to in relation so don't worry so thank you so the shrine can civil was a civil war on the islands sherline cap it began on the twenty third of july nineteen eighty-three there was intimate insurgency against the government by the liberation tigers of tamil allow the lt also known as the tunnel taika against this was fought to create an independent tamil state called the run in the north east of the country after twenty six twenty thirty six and military campaign to incriminate she defeated the tamil tigers in may two thousand nine which brain brawl into the civil for over twenty five years the woolco significant hardship to the population environment and the economy the country who've initial estimate uh-huh eight thousand two hundred thousand people killed during its course in two thousand thirteen the union you panel estimated an additional channel dash during the last phase of the war to around forty thousand wall of independent reports estimated the number civilians dead to accede hundred hundred thousand join you part of the conflict the sri lankan forces attempt to retake the areas captured by the lt the tactics employed by liberation tigers of the thomas allom against the actions of the government forces resulted in listen as a tour terrorist organization in thirty two countries which included united states inject canada a members of the european union the shoreline can government forces of also been accused of human rights abuses systematic impunity for serious human rights violations lacquers carusi respect for habeas corpus in arbitrary detentions enforced disappearances after two decades of fighting unfold file tries at peace talks including this unsuccessful deployment of the indian army indian peacekeeping force from eighteen sorry nine hundred ninety seven to nine hundred ninety a lasting negotiated settlement to the conflict appeared possible when a ceasefire was declared in december two thousand what on a ceasefire agreement signed with international mediation in two thousand and two however limited hostilities renewed in late two thousand five and the conflict began to escalate until the government ought to number of major military offenses against the l. t. t. beginning in july i two thousand six joan lt out of in top eastern province the island the lt dan declared they would resume freedom to struggle to achieve statehood in two thousand seven the government shifted its offensive to north of the country unfortunately announces withdraw from the ceasefire agreement on a second journey two thousand eight alleging the lt violated the agreement over ten thousand times since then aided by the destruction a large number of arms smuggling vessels the belong to the lt not a national crackdown on the funding for the tamil tigers the government took control of the entire area previously controlled by tamil tigers including the de facto capital cannot cheek mainichi best military an entire a nine highway lead into the lt not to find defeat on the team for may two thousand nine following the lt defeat pro l. t. t. tamil national alliance drops its demand for separate state in favor of a federal solution in may may two thousand ten mahinda rajapakse than president should anka point the lessons learnt early consideration commission that l. osei osei to assess the conflict between the time of the ceasefire agreement in two thousand and two and the defeat of the al t t in two thousand nine the origin of this ranking civil wall lying continuous bliscoll ranko between majority sinhalese and why not tunnels the roots of the modern conflict lie in the british rule where the country was known as salaam that was initially little attention between shine kunes two largest ethnic groups descending lease tamils when hamdan are in a balloon attempt was appointed representative of the lease as what is the tamils in national legislative council in nineteen nineteen major celebrity's he's in tamil political organizations united to form the lawn national congress from the leadership of iran a charm to press the colonial government the more constitutional reforms however british governor would imagine actively encourage which the concept of communal representation and created the colombo tom seat in one thousand nine hundred twenty which alternated between the tamils under center sinhalese after the election to the state council in one thousand nine hundred ninety six the line kasama summa aja party the l. s. p. members and impera philip demanded the replacement of english as has the official language by sonali and tamil in november nineteen thirty six the motion that quote in the principal unplaced coast also the island the prestigious should be vernacular and quote on that entries in police stations should be recorded in the language which they originally stated unquote will pass by the state council and refer to legal secretary however in one thousand nine hundred forty full oh RJ geraldine moved the state council the sonali should replace english as the official language in nineteen forty eight immediately after independence the controversial law was passed by salon parliament called salaam citizen act which deliberately decriminalized against the indian tamil ethnic minority by making it virtually impossible for them to obtain citizenship listen ship in the country approximately over seven hundred thousand indian tamils were made stateless over the next three decades kate more than three hundred thousand indian tamils were deported back to india wasn't until two thousand three fifty five years after independence the hoop indian tamils living in sri lanka was granted citizenship but by this time only made up five percent of the island's population nineteen fifty six president asks w all day durang cath pasta slowly only the act which replaced english holy as the official language of the country is seen as a deliberate attempt to discourage this line contam- most most from working in ceylon civil service and other public services the tamil speaking minorities along chalerm contaminants indian gin tama sunshine can view the linguistic cultural and economic discrimination against them many tamil-speaking conceivable servants public servants were forced to resign because they weren't fluid into nali this was polluted into the nineteen fifty six six gal oya riots in nineteen fifty eight widespread riots in which thousands of tamil civilians parish the civil war was a direct direct result the escalation of the confrontational politics that followed in late nineteen sixties documents relating into a separate tamil state of tamil allow begun to circulate at this time untung an employee of the british high commission in columba begun to participate in separatist activities he later migrated to britain where he became the chief theologian the l t t the late nineteen sixties several tamil youth among them fellow pella uh became vote in these activities they carried out several hitmen operations against pro government tamil tamil politicians shoreline completes and the civil administration during the nineteen seventies the policy of standardisation was initiated under the policy students were admitted to university in proportion to number applicants you sat for the examination in language officially officially the policy was designed to increase the representation of students from rural areas though in practice the policy reduced number should in contempt students that were previously based on their examination schools alone gate mission in a high proportion on their participation in the examination they were not required to gain higher marks the insignia release students to gain admission to universities for instance the qualifying mark for mission to medical facilities with two engine fifty four hundred for tamil students but only two hundred and twenty nine sinner lease the the numbers show lankans tamil students entering universities the foul dramatically policy was abandoned in nineteen seventy seven of the forms of official nation against shrank in town was included state sponsored colonisation a traditional tamil areas by senegalese peer peasants binding of the tamil language major on the presence given by nineteen seventy eight constitution should linked into buddhism the main religion followed by senegalese pra karen scavenger shetty tama bless alarm while down criminal from the talaq daddy jaffna from the tamil new tigers the EMT in nineteen seventy seventy two this was formed around the audiology back to the first millennium empire the tiger was the emblem of that empire via southern movement that ilam revolutionary organization the students are formed the manchester dr in london became the backbone of the elements movement in disapora arranging pass bills in employment imigrants levian it's heavy tax on them it became the basis or lee malysz logistical organization later taken over entirely by the al t t the formation that tamil united liberation front the t t you would cody resolution edition one thousand nine hundred seventy six lead to heart and innovates choose the resolution called for the creation of the secular socialist state of tamil alarm based based on the right of self-determination the t you at f- clandestinely supported go to the arm actions young militants it would dumped quote all boys unquote t you laugh leader a pa- palley arugula a ham even provided letters reference to lt into other tamil insurgent groups to raise funds are f la haine gob introduced parham to the NS krishnan who later became the first international representative of the al t t it was krishna who introduced practicum to anton him who later became the chief political strategic chief negotiator of the al t t the boys were the product of the postwar population explosion many partially educated unemployed tamwe fell phone revolutionary free solutions to their problems the leftist parties had remained on communal for a long time but the federal policy as offshoot TULF laugh deeply conservative dominated for villekjaer catechism did not attempt for national alliance with the leftists napa point for language rights from the sweeping electrical electoral victory the united party the UN pay in july nineteen seventy seven t you laugh became the lead in awkward position party move around six the total electrical vote the party platform of secession from sri lanka after the nineteen seventy seven writes the j. jerry winding winding government made one concession to thomas population in lifted the policy of standardisation for university admissions the driven many towel tumble chiefs to into militancy the concession was regarded by militants to be too little too late and violent attacks continued aw by this time t- you laugh start losing its grip over milton grapes i'll t- t ordered civilians to boycott the local who government elections the nineteen eighty three in which even t. u. n. f. contested voter turnout turnout was as low as temps thereafter tamil political parties were unable to represent the interests of the tamil community supported wanted bot ongoing pillow politics of conflict in salunke politicised tamil youth in north east start to for militant groups the grapes develop independent colombo tamil leadership and in the end rejected them the most prominent into these groups the chin which changed name to liberation tigers a tunnel elim the lt in nineteen seventy six the LTTE initially carried our campaign of violence against the state particularly in talk tim policemen and also moderate tamil politicians who who attempt to dialogue with the government the first major operation was the assassination the mayor jaffna outfit dora power in one thousand nine hundred seventy five by pregnant karen l. t. t. e.'s modus operandi of the early will was based on assassinations whereas the mode of operation for the u. n. p. with through a series of checkpoints set up around the city the tented assassination in nineteen nineteen seventy-eight of a tamil member of parliament and can current tom was carried out personally pirate koran deleted the not eighty eight in may nineteen eighty-one the burning the jaffna library by politicians from the ruling party using police and parliament the monitoring forces resulting destruction more than ninety thousand books included palm leaf scrolls of immense historical value this is present example ethnic cousin was a major turning point in convinced the tumbled people the government could not tech them will that cultural for heritage and persuaded many of them to back a separate states in july nineteen eighty three the lt launch a deadly the ambush on sri lankan army trowel full full bravo outside the town of kaleida can offset twelve soldiers using nationalistic sentiments that advantage the jayawardena organized massacres pogroms in colombo the capital capital announce where between forty two thirds to three thousand tamils were estimates to have been killed a more many more fled sinhalese majority jordy areas this is considered the beginning of the civil war paul from altea t- that initially was is a flotilla of military groups lt position adopted from one of the up was out there should only only be one initially lt gained prominence job due to devastating attacks such as the dollar farm massacres in nineteen eighty-four where hundreds of men women and children attack jordan night as they slept were hacked to death with fatal blows from the access on their our on harare massacres nineteen eighty five while the LTTE indiscriminately opened fire killing wounded one hundred forty six billions with giant mahara good but this shrine the moscow is apparently answered by government forces assist with massacre which over twenty three tamil civilians died over time the al t t e merge each with a largely exterminated almost of militant tamil groups as a result many temo spin two groups ended up working with shrinking lincoln government as parliamentary or denounce violence enjoyed mainstream politics some legitimate orientated politician political oh potus remained all opposed to lt vision over independent states peace talks between the l. t. t. not on the government began in tim in one thousand nine hundred eighty five they suit filed on the war continued in nineteen nineteen eighty-six many civilians massacred as paul this conflict in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven government troops putsch l t t e fighters the northern city jaffna in april nineteen eighty-seven the conflict exploded with ferocity as both government forces in al t t CAT fighters engaged in series of bloody operations the sri lanka military launch offensive called operation liberation your may to june nineteen eighty seven to regain control of the territory in the jaffna peninsula from the TT this first conventional warfare or insure lincoln sources independence the offenses would offensive who's successful in l. t. unseat tied the league seven assess elliot's susa usa narrowly escaped from advancing troops key military personnel involved in operation was tenant colonel projector left sarath girardi colonel VJ women attorney break general denzil cobra coa in july nineteen ninety-seven the l. t. t. e. that first suicide attacked captain miller the black tigers drove a small truck current explosive through the foot fleishman can army camp reported killing forty soldiers lt not carried out three hundred seventy suicide attacks when the largest suicide campaigns in the world the suicide attack trademark of lt not on a characteristic of seville involvement was particularly strong in the indian state term non undid for indian intervention where ethnic kinship led to strong support for the independence shrank could tumbles throughout the conflict injured sexual state government supported both sides in different ways from august nineteen eighty-three until may nineteen tonight eighty seven the indian government through its intelligence regions agency research wing are w provided arms training training to six roland contaminants groups including the l. t. t. eight tamil eelam liberation organization nations t. e. at people's liberation organisation tumble the p. l. o. t. e. r. revolutionary organization students uh eve ROS elaine people's revolutionary liberation front EPA liberation army the t. e. ES l. t. t. royce is wardley attributed the initial backing it received from the RAM alright w is believed that by supporting different minutes groups the indian government help to keep the tamil independence movement divided babble to exert control over in gyp came more actively involved in the late nineteen eighteen eighties on the fifty to nine thousand nine hundred eighty seven the indian air force dropped possible to jaffna while it was under siege shrunken forces at the time winter can government state and it was close to defending our TT india dropped twenty tons of food and medicine bipasha in areas held by lt indirect move support of the rebels negotiations were held the industry rank resigned in the twenty ninth for july nineteen eighty-seven by indian prime minister rajib gandhi inter lincoln president did jay awarding under this accord the shrunken government made a number of concessions to demands including devolution your power to the provinces a merger subject to lay to referendum on november an eastern provinces provinces in single province an official status for the tamil language injured greater establish all during the northeast through the indian peacekeeping force i p k f unto it is cold at at to cease assistant tamil insurgents militant groups including al t t although initially reluctant agree retur surrender their arms on the IP KF which initially overseas for a modest disarmament of the militant groups signing the indy langkah code so soon after JR jerry dean's decoration the i would find engines the last bullet led to unrest in the south the arrival of the i pay k. f. take control of most areas in the north of the country enabled shrunken government to shift his focus to the forces to the south to quell the protests this led into a by gennaro fabric peramuna in the south which was put down blood league over the next two years while most terminal militant groups lay down their weapons and agreed to seek a peaceful solution to the conflict the lt refused to disarm its fighters keen to ensure the success of the court that the IP f than tried to mobilize the lt by force and ended rapin full-scale conflict with them the three conflict was also mocked PK have been accused of commission various abuses by many human enright scrapes as while there's some we've in the indian media k p k f also seen met stiff of russian shen from the thomas simultaneously nationalistic sentiment sentiment than many similar release to oppose the continued indian in presence in sri lanka this led to the sri lankan government's cool for india's quit the island and the government allegedly entered into a ceasefire however the lt an IP k. f. continue to have frequent clashes in april nineteen ninety nine he she para mudassar government over to the sri lankan army to come to sternly hand over on contingents wants to the l. t. t. e. to find a PK and its proxy tamil national army the TNA although casualties among the IP PK f- and calls for the withdrawal of the IP k. f. from bo sizes shrunk can conflict grit gandhi refused onto remove the p k f from sri lanka however former is defeat in india parliamentary elections in december nineteen eighty nine writes the new prime minister v. pacing or the withdrawal of the IP kayak last ship left sri lanka on twenty four march nineteen not north to the thirty two presence the k. a. k. f. enshrine can result in the deaths the twelve hundred injured indian soldiers over five thousand trinkets the cost the indian government was estimated to be over ten billion repairs support for the l. t. t. e. injured dropped considerably nineteen ninety one after the assassination the ex prime minister rajiv gandhi by female suicide bomber the indian press subsequently reported that power karen are indicated to eliminate gandhi as he considered the ex prime minister to be against tamil liberation struggle infanta might rian deduct the i p k f which term the satanic close if he won the nineteen ninety one indian general election in nineteen nineteen ninety eight india presided over by special judge them from the lt of its leader philip pella crop karen responsible for the assassination in a two thousand six interview the lt ideal untung darshan expressed regret over the assassination although he stopped short of outright acceptance of responsibility india remained outside observer the conflict after the assassination thank you for listening to the first part of the shrank franken civil next week will hit the alarm civil war the nineteen ninety to ninety five the third to the wool soda alum will three nineteen ninety five to two thousand two on up to the early peace efforts on on up to the peace process which have two thousand to two thousand six which had everything included in the ceasefire right up to modern day times him today that would also talk about the space the al TT snoqaulmie the hit christmas december twenty six ninety ah two thousand four from the indian ocean would hit the alarm will four two thousand six to two thousand nine back further volume is in talks effort a peace process the water disputes while will be covered fully sometimes the peace talks the lt retaliate should the government did after that in north and south and right up to modern dice so thank you for listening to the first part of this episode listen not next week for the second we will also have another bite side history on on thursday to listen to that one also subscribe subscribed that way you'll be notified every time napster drops below solicit talk back to if you haven't already done so please leave a five star rating are makes a massive difference second but please do not it will be very much appreciated if you could do be great this absence direct correct response if somebody getting contact with us on social media asking for really happy to do that you won't hear so last now give us your suggestions gestures on if you wanna talk about any previous episodes please do too so we love to 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Episode #14: Hi-Performance Heritage - The 1978 Dodge Li'l Red Express

Talking Mopars

35:24 min | 1 year ago

Episode #14: Hi-Performance Heritage - The 1978 Dodge Li'l Red Express

"Welcome to episode number fourteen and the second edition of high performance heritage these are special episodes where we take a closer look at a car truck or person that embodies the high performance heritage komo par on this installment pop the hood on what was considered in the late seventies the last american hot rod the nineteen seventy eight dodge little red express we also have our normal weekly segments too so get in sit down shut up and hold on you're tuned into the best mo- part theseus driven podcast on planet earth and i'm your host chris albrecht better known as the mo opa hunter and this is talking mo- pars and you're listening to talking mobile ars with the hunter your direct mention to all things mope aw we are back with installment number two of high performance heritage which we will get to once we cover our weekly segments of projects arve the week high performance parts and listener stories but before we get into all that i wanna talk about a very cool car that i saw on social media this past week i was browsing through my feed when i saw that my buddy johnny moped shared a picture of a ratty sixty nine roadrunner setup for drag racing posted by true street productions if you've listened to most of if not all of these shows than by now you know me and you know that i love me some ratty mo- parse there was something about this roadrunner that really piqued my interest and i had to do some digging i found out that the car has its own facebook page which you can find if you look up project tetanus sixty nine roadrunner turns out this road runner is owned by a guy named ralph and this bird does most of its dirty work on the streets the car is a wild animal period that's all there is to it i also learned that this thing has a hemi now i really wanted to know the story on this car so i reached out to ralph and spoke with him on the phone about coming on the podcast and telling the story about the car which he was open to so i'm happy to announce him as future guest on on this show and like all the guests i'm lining up i am very excited to talk mo parts with him and speaking of which to everyone out there listening that i've reached out to about about being a guest on the show the time has come and i will be in touch with you to get you scheduled to be featured on the special editions of the show that i called direct connections i i wanna be clear when i say that talking mo- pars is for all mope aren't suzy's as such i want to make sure that you understand that i wanna be different from other shows by being inclusive lucid to you the listener so i say again if you have a mo- par story that you wanna share with me that i will share on this podcast email them to me at chris at talking mobiles .com the same goes for you if you want to be a guest on the show email me and let me know why you think you'd make a good guest because direct connections are coming soon and most of the people that are going to be coming on the show i've actually reached out to myself but i'm also open to suggestion so if there's someone out there that you think i should talk to on the podcast maybe you want to hear more of their story or more about their business or what have you email me and i'll reach out to them and see if coming on the show something they'd be interested didn't so that's that and back to project tetanus this car is awesome like i said it's set of drag racing it's caged up it's got racing seats no from bumper no hood hemion nitrous this car is a straight up savage and guess what you can see it in action there is a slew of street racing videos on youtube you buy a production company called sixty street that's the number six and then sixty street spelled out you can see project tetanus doing work on the video title no trailer number five so if you go to youtube and look up sixty sixty six sixty street say that ten times fast and then you look look up no trailer number five you'll find the videos now you will see one that shows project tetanus the sixty nine road runner on the cover photo although with a mustang so check out that video check it out see see the work it does it's a really cool car i really like it i love ratty mo- parks because you i can see that this car you know it's derelict condition i don't know the whole story on it but you know when i see car like that i imagined that it was sitting somewhere and you know ralph saw bought it and brought it back to life in a different way than your average restoration he took this car and made it a monster her which i respect and i can't wait to get the full story on this show because i really don't know the story of the car i kinda ralph and i had a brief conversation and and i realized that he was full of stories so i'm really excited to get him on the show and i'm really excited to hear about this roadrunner because like i said it piqued my interest and i needed to learn more and the more i learned the cooler it gets so hopefully we can get him on the show really soon i'm not sure when but really soon i'll be reaching back out to him but while i'm talking about this if i ever mention a business person or anything released pacific i try to remember to put links in the show notes or show description so that you can check it out for yourself so if for some reason you hear something that i talk about on the show and you don't see links in the show description contact me and i'll be sure to direct you to the right place or give you the links myself and i will add them to the notes section because sometimes i forget i try to give credit to where credit is due but sometimes i miss it and i'll be going back to some of my previous episodes because i'm sure that i've missed some stuff there and i just wanna make sure that everything is linked in the show notes anyways always i'm a fan of the street racing scene around the country and i'll admit that i got sucked into the rabbit hole youtube street racing videos on more than one occasion and doing research coach on project tetanus was no different i had to see the car doing work on the street and i spent quite a bit of time watching the videos you watch these street racing videos as long enough and you're gonna end up finding yourself in the garage tearing up that piece of cardboard with all your plans for your car on it i'm telling you you're gonna be you know you're like you know what screw screw screw it were tub in this thing you know we're back having it you know what i mean when i see these street racing videos i'm like man i need to do that you know as i'm watching these cars pulling wheelies losing it halfway down the track i'm like oh yeah maybe i should try that you know but street racing really talent a lot of people think they can go out there and do it and you get that some of these high powered cars and you can see how much skill it takes to keep these things on the road and my hat is off to any of those guys who really have beast cars and and have a hard time keeping them on the road i would like to get into racing i have this dark and although i wanted to be a streetcar i'm leaning towards it's making a you know a fun track car i don't really know of any street race is going on around here the cops are pretty strict but i'm sure some of you guys up in washington you know you you have your finger on the underground pulse so if you do let me know i'd like to go check him out sometime but project tennis is a really neat car and i'm looking forward to speaking into the owner ralph so all right now that we're all warmed up let's get this show on the road before we get into project car of the week i want to be sure that you guys know where you can see the cars that i pick on the segment i choose who's project car of the week based off of cars that i post on the mot part hundred facebook page the week prior to the episode being released so if you ever want to see the car chosen just go to the mope one hundred page on facebook and you should be able to find the link to the car on there i'll try to remember to let you know moving forward what day and what time the car was posted so that it's easier to find so now that that's out of the way let's get into this week's project car of the week with over fifty thousand people reached and over over eleven thousand engagements on facebook this week's project car of the week was pretty easy to choose and it is the nineteen seventy plymouth khuda in mana hawk in new jersey jersey that was posted at nine AM on friday the seventh of february this is one of those cars that is a high price at fifty five thousand dollars but is a rare car that i believed to be worth the money if you bought it for a long term investment so let's let's get into it let's read the ad nineteen seventy v recode shaker for forty six pack four speeds sublime saddle leather fifty five thousand dollars mannequin my nineteen seventy vico numbers matching in khuda this is a very rare car most people i've spoke with told me it's most likely the only one made numbers matching four forty four speed factories six packs shaker limelight green saddle leather interior car is a project as you can see motor is dated eight fifteen sixty nine both top pad and vin pat have the butterfly marks from the factory bill date on car is eleven fifteen sixty nine i do have the gill rocker molding and the shaker only part i am missing is the six pack set up and and the manifold i have headers for car rolls and steers tires hold air clean title in my name has been off the road since the nineteen eighties the drive train motor order and trans were stored inside along with the hood since the eighties the hood has zero arrested it's an amazing shape grill has no cracks in it title vin tagged or tag vendor tag broadcast sheet motor trans all match that's pretty much the end of the ad but the seller does break down the fender tag and vin and i'm just gonna go through a quick highlight some of the cool features so here we go the vin that he supplies does identify this car as a khuda v v code car so that's a plus and then he goes into listing all the options and all that good stuff so some of the stuff here it's a long long list so if you find the ad you can see the fender tag on there and he has the full breakdown but some of the things that stood out to me were d. twenty twenty one on the vendor tag that's four speed it's v code car which is the four forty six pack excuse me the four forty six barrels since it's a plymouth limit it's f j five which is limelight green so that's cool that's a high impact color which adds to the value it it has saddled tan interior that's the t five code on the vendor tag and that's actually a really rare interior color i personally have never seen a sublime time or limelight car with a saddle tan interior or tan interior i've never seen that so that's really cool it also it's a a super track pack car so it's four ten gear ratio with the dana sixty and assure grip it's got rallye gauges it's it's got three speed wipers it's also got the c twenty six code which is the overhead console which is really cool i think and it's a bucket see carts it's got hood pins it's ninety six code so it's got the shaker hood so that's legit the cars just really cool when you start breaking it all down and looking at all the options i think this car is worth the time and money that you'd have to investigate this thing you know back in dan primo shape fully restored so it's a really cool car and of course fifty five thousand for someone who is mo par broke like me there is a little bit of a sticker shock but this car is a high impact color shaker hood v code six barrel four-speed khuda it's scott tan interior the overhead console i mean this car in my opinion has plenty of reasons why it should be restored and you know me i'm the i'm the guy who's always saying you know just get the car running and driving safely and then drive it until the wheels fall off but this car definitely deserves a full restoration owen how can i forget the fact that the car has is the fender tag the broadcast sheet and is numbers matching you know case closed someone needs to save this car and unfortunately it won't be me because because i'm not scrooge mcduck and i don't swim in gold coins but someone out there has the cash and i think this one is the one to get i'd like to find out if the sellers claim that this may be the only card like it in existence is true because that's another reason to scoop this thing up what a cool car you would have to find some correct exhaust manifold and the intake and carb setup but in the grand scheme of things you know that's not too big of a deal when you consider the fact that anyone who can drop rob over fifty thousand dollars on a project are probably has the means tab all the parts hunted down and have the restoration done right so that's the project car of the week in one thousand nine hundred seventy f j five limelight four forty six barrel shaker hood khuda with tan interior and a hurst pistol grip for speed what a a cool car what do you guys think you think that things worth fifty five thousand what would you pay for me fifty five thousand is a lot of money money when i think about okay let's just pretend that i had the money would i try to make a deal of course i'd try to make a deal with the guy probably hit him at twenty five or thirty thousand rosen because i'm a cheapskate and see where he goes from there but if he was firm fifty five thousand i'd probably just pull out the water cash and handed to them because this car done and would be really really cool i i'm still curious you know the seller says this may be the only one in existence and i would really like to know if that's it's true does anybody out there know of any limelight kudos that are shaker cars with the six barrel and a tan interior i really wanna see other cars with these options and if this is the only one in existence in in that you know in my mind it ups the price a little bit so this car is definitely cool definitely worth saving and it's too bad that it wasn't in better shape to begin with you know if this thing was in running driving condition you know and it was all complete for fifty five thousand that'd be a steel in my opinion you know even if it was ready you know so then i would say okay you know maybe just get running and driving all original drive it until the wheels fall off or until you can afford to have it restored right but you know how how it sits right now i think you already at the point where you might as well just get it restored you know what i mean but you know who has fifty five thousand dollars laying around i i sure don't but if you do i would go get this car but i ask again what do you guys think it's worth would you buy the car is it worth restoring i wanna know so so that's project car of the week let's shift gears and head over to tinseltown welcome to the second installment of high performance parts the new weekly segment where we briefly shine the spotlight on a mo- par from TV or movie history this week's high-performance part belongs to a sleek and mysterious car that in the late eighties looked like something from the future the movie was the nineteen eighty-six sci fi five film called the wraith it starred charlie sheen is a teenage kid who was murdered by a gang and came back as a ghost driving a wicked looking sports car to get revenge inch on those responsible for his death because you know the eighties the car was a twin turbocharged concept car known as the dodge m four turbo interceptor 'em for stood for mid engine four cylinders sports car powered by a two point two liter four cylinder with a cosworth sixteen valve twin cam cylinder head ed being fed by twin enter cooled garrett t twenty five turbochargers built to be the dodge PPG indy series pace car for nineteen eighty five and eighty six it was commissioned as well as paid for by p g developed in one thousand nine hundred four by chrysler and built by specialized vehicles incorporated with four hundred horsepower and capable double o of a top speed of just under one hundred ninety five miles an hour on a stock block mind you this car not only screamed eighties but a screened period a reportedly got grace grace it reportedly got grace gas mileage it reportedly got great gas mileage to something like twenty seven miles to the gallon when driving miss daisy and thirty cruising on the highway only dropping to twenty three miles per gallon win exceeding speeds of one hundred fifty miles an hour it really is a cool car if you think think back to what was coming out in the nineteen eighties and although quite futuristic looking at the time when looking at the car today it just has eighties written all over it and end i dig it there is a lot of information on the web for this car if you search dodge m four s there's so much info that i'm actually even considering going into you detail on the car in a future episode because there's a lot of cool little things to learn about it if you haven't seen the car be sure to check it out in the movie the wraith and if you don't like cheesy eighty s movies like me just google it it's a pretty neat car it has a tilt front end tilt rear end and it's got scissor doors like a lamborghini it has a very exotic eighties kit car look and feel to it and it would have been interesting to see this as a kit car available to the public but i tried to locate one and they just don't seem to exist it sounds like there was some rumblings about making them available in the past but nothing ever came to fruition i would like to see the you know okay so let's pretend get one of these okay let's pretend that it's all built in all i need to do is put a motor at what what engine do i wanna put in this car i could go the supercharged hemi route but i wanna keep it interesting i want to keep it throwback style and i i would i would keep the turbo four cylinder and i would go with an s. RT four two point four liter double over red camp turbocharged four cylinder i think that would be fun a lot of people are squeezing some serious power out of those turbo four cylinders don't get it twisted but that's what i would do that actually would be really cool car but anyways that is high performance parts for this week the dodge m four turbo interceptor check it out it's time once again end for listener stories and this first listener story is one about a plymouth duster sent in by matthew monroe here is his story this is my nineteen seventy-one plymouth duster base has the original two twenty five minute my dad and step brother bought this car together when i was fifteen and worked on it together until i was sixteen they decided to try and sell it i attempted to by then but my mom told me no it's a muscle car fast forward sixteen years stepbrother stepbrother ended up keeping the car but it ended up part at his mom's house by a lake for around eleven years never moving i took my chance shot him and offer while he was in town and he took it my wife and i went and picked it up and brought it home washed it change the oil ports and fresh gas in knocked loose and shot back out all the wasp nest and fired it up and was able able to drive it around the neighborhood fixed other things along the way and i've taken this car hundreds of miles in a day for business meetings to shows and toy drives the duster never fails to draw attention in matthew monroe thanks for sending in your story matthew i love that you managed to get the car after sixteen years and that you're now finally enjoying it it sure beats letting it sit and rot down by a lake you know i really do enjoy stories where mopeds eventually saved because those types of stories give those of us who have kept tabs on mopeds in our own areas that just sit and rot a little bit of hope someday you know before hopefully these cars rod into the ground the owners will finally let him go to people like us mope who will treat them as they should be treated at least most of the time some of us will buy them and let them sit and rot out in backyard but some of us keep them in garages and we'll get to them eventually like me but stories like yours matthew give those those of us in the community some hope that someday we can actually pry these cars out of the hands of people who don't have the time money to bring them back to life so i'm glad that you were able able to do that with your duster and sounds like you're going on some adventures with it so that's really cool thanks for sending in your story our next listener story comes from stephen sweney i hope i pronounced that right buddy lord knows i have a tough last name myself albrecht and i hate pronouncing other people's names wrong so if if i did please let me know so i can correct myself and that goes for anyone out there if i read your story and i pronounce your name wrong please correct me so i can get that corrected stephen is as a lifelong moped enthusiasts with an interest in the obscure mo- pars and this is his story my mo- par story i grew up in a mope our family both my dad and grandpa were loyal mo- pires even if they weren't die hard kar nuts my grandfather had a nineteen seventy four dodge corn f for as long as i knew him and my father's mo- parts ars that are growing up included in nineteen sixty four plymouth fury four door a nineteen seventy six plymouth fury two-door a nineteen seventy eight plymouth fury four door x. calgary police police service cruiser and a nineteen eighty-one plymouth reliant wagon to reliant was only the third new car my dad had bought his first was nineteen sixty four plymouth fury convertible and the one i love to hear stories about in my youth growing up i loved all old cars there was an infamous incident my family when at age three my dad's sold our nineteen sixty four pontiac i was so upset set that i cried and cried about it but as i drew closer to legal driving age i realized it was old no parts that i was drawn to above the other makes my first car was a nineteen seventy dodge charger five hundred purchased from local recor it was originally a three eighteen car but had a four hundred big block in it when i bought it for fifteen hundred canadian even though it was a bit of a basket case with a half inch of bondo covering the quarters i can't imagine buyer running driving big block nineteen seventy charger for fifteen hundred today as years went by upgrading my mo- park election by buying a less of a basket case nineteen sixty nine dodge coronet five hundred three eighteen two door hardtop which became my daily driver while attending college it was one of the most reliable cars i around my first nineteen sixty-nine coronet led to another uneven nicer nineteen sixty nine dodge coronet five hundred three eighteen two door hardtop the second one was why to yellow black interior with black vinyl top i was the second owner in this part was nice enough for cruising carshow duties i really miss this car but life events intervened intervened my daily driver at this point was in nineteen eighty dodge ram charger as it was fully loaded with a three sixty four barrel it even had a little plaque on the dash said renfrew chrysler showroom vehicle unfortunately it was not very good on gas and was starting to develop reliability issues i needed to find a new daily driver my criteria were it had to be a mo- moped it had to be interesting and it had to get half decent gas mileage my search brought me to a nineteen eighty-seven dodge shelby charger this is the car that got me hooked on shelby dodge up until this point i had only vagner knowledge about shelby's relationship with chrysler in the nineteen eighties it was through owning this car that i learned of the existence of the whittier cars real deal shelby's they were never sold in canada so it wasn't until the advent of the internet that i heard the four letters GLA chess i was hooked i wanted an eighty seven even in a bad way the search took a longtime see above life events but eventually ended up finding number zero zero seven five on ebay it was a california car was seventy thousand miles and very original i bought it in january of two thousand nine instill own it's numbers matching engine and even more surprising given the delicate nature of a five twenty i five transmission this car such a blast to drive it's like a go-cart for the streets the shelby dodge bug had bitten me hard i found some fellow enthusiasts and together we formed a western canada ended a chapter of the shelby dodge automobile club through my FDIC connections i became aware of a one thousand nine hundred seven shelby lancer for sale and oregon thus lancer number one hundred hundred seventy six was added to my collection for this shelby my dad and i purchased one way airfare to portland and drove the eight hundred miles back to calgary this was a great bonding experience for my dad and hi and will go down in history as one of my favorite memories at this point in time i think it should be said that i've come to the realization that i liked the obscure the underappreciated the unknown i i like three eighteen l. a. engine cars i liked ram chargers before they were cool and i love to point to turbos many years of living the shelby dodge life i found myself getting the issue for something older again i missed vent windows calvin and foot high beam dimmer switches like you chris i find myself searching the classifieds well in late summer murph twenty eighteen i first spotted a gee-gee ad for nineteen sixty five dodge polara eighty convertible it was a beautiful hair on blue metallic paint with blacktop and look sharp i tried to resist but the ad kept calling me back as uncle tony recently said in one of his youtube videos the right number of mope is one too many so in the spring of two thousand nineteen struck struck a deal and the poul-erik became mine it's a canadian car so it is a little different than the US polaris it's a three eighteen poly so my old nickname of three eighteen steve applies again again as i've become familiar with the car researched it what i like the most is that it was a one owner car up until recently the original owner purchased at new in nineteen sixty five in my hometown of calgary he owned it until the day he passed away the estate sold it at auction and spring twenty eighteen to a car dealer in edmonton whom i purchased it from about a year later in local circles i've become known as the obscure here dodge guy a reputation i take a lot of pride in sorry for the novel but my mo- part story has been a very long and rewarding journey stephen sweney hey steven thanks for sending in your story i imagined that there are a ton of moped enthusiasts out there myself included that wish their first car was a nineteen seventy dodge charger i could never imagine finding one running and driving for fifteen hundred bucks either man i might pay sixteen hundred just so that i could give the guy a hundred dollar tip for the bargain you know but i'm also a fan of the turbomeca cars and i can't wait to get into the projects that my dad and i have sitting around that should be a lot of fun i love that you made a special trip with your dad that's cool and i would like to do the same thing with might add some day go pick up a car that just sounds like a cool bonding experience to me and i agree with for the record i agree agree with uncle tony one hundred percent the right number of mope ours is one too many that's hilarious and those of you who actually haven't heard the story now that i'm thinking about it i got the blessing to use the name talking mo- parts from uncle tony who was originally going to use it but instead went all in on his youtube channel called uncle tony's garage if if you guys haven't seen that or heard of uncle tony go look up uncle tony's garage his videos are great and he's a funny guy but he decided to do the youtube challenge just go all all in on that which i respect and he's doing great so thanks for sending in your story stephen i enjoyed sharing it and i'd actually be proud of being the obscure dodge guy too so where that badge with pride my friend that does it for this week's listener stories if you want to hear your story shared on the show send it to me chris at talking mopeds dot com it doesn't matter if they are short if they're long please don't make them too long but please remember that the story is only i'm going to be read as good as you can write it so please make sure it'll be easy for me to read and thanks to all who have submitted their stories and if i haven't gotten to your store yet don't worry i will bill i'm still working through the stack it's time folks let's close is this show out with another installment of high performance heritage wants nineteen seventy-three came around the muscle car era dominated by flashy paint and ground shaking digging horse power was basically just a memory of good times past with the oil embargo of nineteen seventy-three sending gas prices through the roof at nearly four hundred percent percent increase the days of high performance were over compression ratios were lowered gas prices in insurance premium soared that is until nineteen seventy eight went dodge the fired back at the struggling times with a little red truck that would make automotive history that brings us to our featured vehicle for this edition of high performance heritage enter the nineteen seventy eight dodge little red express it was a bright canyon red pickup truck with clear coated oakwood panels that dress the sides of the utilizing beden tailgate this thing also oh had to ridiculously combed out giant stacks right behind the cap and you know those things like they belonged on a semi truck rather than a two wheel drive pickup but the truck also had gold pin striping and gold little red expressed truck door logos and the words little red truck in gold on the tailgate as well it was clear that dodge really wanted this to stand out in the crowd and well they succeeded along with a giant chrome stacks the truck was also adorned with fifteen inch and chrome five slot wheels fifteen by sevens in the front and fifteen by eighth outback chrome front rear bumpers chrome sidesteps were the exhaust protruded from a chrome plated lated air cleaner chrome plated valve covers it was clear that dodge wanted to send a message a boisterous wanted that the funding stop the exterior either the interior also had some pizzazz azaz such as the tough steering wheel which was only available for the first part of seventy nine and one of my favorites of all time of almo- pars the optional the bucket seats in little red express trucks and other dodge trucks as well those seats are really cool i would love to get a set some day but i'm not quite sure where i sit on that with my seventy sixty sixty one hundred but anyways back to the little red express other than a few options the truck was pretty loaded from the factory for a base price of seventy four hundred which at the time was was not a low price tag but the real fun begins when he turned the key but before we do that we have to understand the importance of what you are starting to understand that we have to know who was responsible for such an outlandish pickup truck at a time when performance was all but a distant memory enter tom hoover tom hoover vers remembered by many in the moped community as the father of the four twenty six hemi tom was an engineer chrysler corporation and was the main weapon in the fight against the government's emissions regulations relations that had killed performance tom had found a way to create a performance vehicle through a loophole in the EPA's rules see the rules for emissions didn't didn't apply to trucks the same way that they did two cars for example if a light duty truck weight over six thousand pounds it did not need to have a catalytic converter so with the help from dick maxwell and dave call the low red express would receive the e. h. one three sixty which was a modified version of the high performance e fifty eight police coat three sixty sixty this special three sixty was equipped with three forty camshaft e v DA cylinder heads and a four barrel carburetor which resulted in two hundred and twenty five net horsepower thirty eight hundred rpm and two hundred ninety five pound feet of torque at thirty two hundred rpm sent to the rear axle through a seven twenty-seven transmission out to assure grip equipped rear with three fifty five years that would allow you to burn off both raised white letter goodyear ilar sixty fifteen's with ease the little red truck turned a quarter mile in fifteen point seven seven one seconds at eight hundred miles an hour it also holds the nineteen seventy-eight car and driver title of fastest american made vehicle from zero to one hundred miles an hour beating the corvette corvette porsche nine twenty four transam saab turbo and a thunderbird the little red express trucks released in march of nineteen seventy the eight and only twenty one hundred eight were made compared to the you're following when five thousand one hundred and eighteen units were made though there were some changes made in styling alien performance in the second year which was also the final year of the little red express it was still a quick little truck and i believe it to be one of the most recognizable trucks in mope our history and and to be honest one of my personal favorites you know right alongside the rams RT ten and the other similar trucks dodge produced during that time which were you know the midnight express the warlock trucks those are awesome trucks all in their own and all of those will also get their own episodes of high-performance heritage because they're all that cool so that's that's pretty much the nineteen seventy dodge little red express in a nutshell and this has been high performance heritage that does it for this week's episode of talking mo- pars high-performance heritage for more information about this podcast or listen and subscribe to the show please visit talking mopeds dot com that's the best in easiest way to help me spread the word about this podcast is to share the website and you know tell all your buddies about the show anybody who loves mo- pars wants to learn more you know you might not learn a whole a lot on the show while you're gonna learn little bits and pieces every episode and then hopefully you know by episode one thousand you might know five percent of what there is to know about mo- parse uh-huh but ratings and reviews are always nice to they helped me keep this show moving forward and getting better so i appreciate associate any ratings and reviews that you guys give but before we shut this podcast down i want to remind you guys that i still want to hear from you and share your stories on this podcast so e mail your stories 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Kyle Larson Controversy + Remembering Mike Lavallee

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Kyle Larson Controversy + Remembering Mike Lavallee

"You're listening to castle car. Cast on podcast one. A guys welcomed a car. Cast our. We're GONNA have a good show today. We're GONNA talk about Stirling Moss and our friend Mike Lavallee who unfortunately passed a little bit of mock e talk and all the craziness that's going on with the with my Ford lightning and trying to get some axelsson stuff made but before we get started. Let me tell you a little bit about Geico. Maybe you own your home or you rent your home or either way could be a lot of work. Well you know it's easy to bundling your policies with Geico Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy and that's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home already so just go to GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEIKO DOT com. Hey guys welcome to car cast. I'm Matt Motivator the Andrea With Bill Goldberg. On the line with us for me going to be recording some video for this. You Guys WanNa see us sitting around our homes. You can do that as well as as well as the here's the podcast. Abso- we get started. Just a shadow to our friend said dodged with dodge power dollars for every horsepower. Dodge the Oakland purchase. You'll get ten dollars off so peeling out in twenty nine km dodge charger archie. Scott Pack you just got four thousand five hundred eighty bucks offs all right. Well good to see a bill. How's How's the? How's The ranch? Ha? You know it's it's great like I said I feel guilty that I'm currently forty agents so there's always something to do and I changed my daily driver from these challenges to a promoter. So yeah there is a plethora of new this properly but it's all good figures crossman. They eat about the timetable. Change difference in your car. You're already off your out of your work out there for a few hours already before leaving. It started yeah. Well you know a site side note if you've been keeping with arch archer three-legged she last night. Last night was the first night that he hasn't been here at the House. We might go of the That Assistance WanNA take him for a couple of days and so needless to say I got my first night of sleep unabated by sheep wanting to get said in the middle of the night so long I was up early. Bright early on at six thirty so you number of hours. Us getting on this ice. Follow I follow your wife Wanda on social media And she's just constantly post saying about of course all the animals but but this sheep and I it talks tough gig tough Gig for you chop gig for the sheep but adorable always looks happy playing around with the dog all the time Of course she's not posting you guys getting up in the middle of the night while crying and you're trying to know if you've seen sleeping now now it's been turned over to me. What what her husband or a baby a three legged sheep. Wake me up thirty in the morning. Hundreds that all the. It's all good man. So gauge gauge is not really into getting up tonight. Getting me right. This this social distancing thing with the schools being clause if he gets up by eight o'clock. That's that's very unusual but I'm going to start going in there in his clothes hamper getting his dirty underwear on his head about seven o'clock in the morning just to be nice wakeup call to tell him he needs to get off his ass. Yeah help out around their move. Move stuff around. Glad you guys are doing well over there. And how are you over there in the land of the lost good surprisingly because you know I live? I live in Venice out here in California. Things are still pretty active You know obviously the freeways far less cars and and people around and everybody in the stores wearing the masks and stuff like as you would expect still like a surprising amount of activity. It's not like night of the comet out here. It's not like it's horrible. Ghost houses just like the old tumbleweed blowing down Venice Boulevard. Like right extraordinary. They're building an apartment complex. And you're gonNA hear it throughout the show's concept construction boring into the ground and digging up underground parking garage and there's cars out there so it everyone's doing podcasting just from home it just It is it is different. Just honestly just doesn't seem quite as I duNno. Ghost tally as you would think. I guess there are a lot more essential businesses than we realize you ask I. Would I just read yesterday? I don't know what's going to be speaking of essential or not essential. I just read yesterday that. Wwe was was deemed essential in Florida in Tampa originally and now it is obviously no my thoughts on that anytime you can get any entertainment out there now. of of normal. You know Kinda as normal as as productions were prior on anytime you can get content out there. It's it's good for people so you know it's it's a it's again you're between a rock and a hard place responsible or do you feel like you're providing a service you know there. There's a little bit about. You're not gonna be able to say. She ate everybody in the world. But the reality is you know. It's one of the only things going and yeah and it's it's valuable content and I'm sure they have you know at a very lengthy legal deals with Fox. Putting on a number of live shows through that probably falls into it also but hey when I was there and whether they had somebody tests positive or not Day Did as good a job as humanly possible of cleaning and disinfecting the performance center literally between match. So they're going above and beyond you know it's left up to each individual in their opinion about it being unnecessary business you know but They are providing content and they're providing people in escape and they're doing it a responsible way so let's please move. Yeah look let where. We're trying to do that here as well what? We're going to be trying to do that here as well So unfortunately this week and as of today just a few hours ago we got word. `Bout some some sad news in our world I it's it's out there for for for days. Now that Skirling Moss legendary race car. Driver had passed away. He was ninety years old. He was a he was a tiny ball. Guy That you guys have seen out there but Just yeah we saw a good. What is well and on Maybe the younger audience doesn't know him as much probably hurt his name. Not a lot of people are rolling around the name Stirling Moss Kind of a kind of like news like Phil Moss would you? Would you know him right? Like his or Fiv Moss right like you know. He was guys sterling. Yes early Moss and You know it's funny because also like Parnelli. Jones Bardelli's is meddling so and so memorable is our Nellie because of not so strongly moss who is a great formula one driver who's really regarded as one of the more technical drivers out there Surprisingly had never won an f one championship but But had a fantastic career sixteen of of of sixty six F one races. He was he was just a fantastic fantastic guy. He he was in a a pretty bad accident way back in the day when he was thirty one years old. So here's a guy that crashed in nineteen sixty two and I believe was left at home for a while. I don't know exactly for how long And it really kind of ended. His professional racing career clydes you know manage to keep himself in the limelight and relevant the racing world by just being a good guy. Good Racer for for sixty years after after after retiring. So that's longevity. Yeah it is and and I think we'll later in the week out of loud. We'll dig a little bit deeper into Into the stirling loss career So you guys want to check out that Maybe I'll Friday that show but You know I look ninety is a hell of a long time. I. I'm a lot of us. Wish to get to their of this guy. He did it and music dude racing when they when they had no seat belts for. God's Sakes Oh yeah I mean yeah that might be taken it a little far but you know the safety restrictions were were quite different back then. He was raised took to know that he lived to ninety years old after all the stuff that he went through. I'm sure those unbelievable ninety years. You know you think about the car back down to technology. The safety event the helmets everything. It's just amazing that the different generations do these guys the Mario Andretti's of the world as well he was love after this but It's amazing what these guys were doing. And you know in the fifties under the circumstances. Why out right in the fifties racing but anyway he he will be missed and Just a good all around guy and then of course That you guys made no guy need Mike Lavalle. Fortunately Michael Valley at suffered a stroke a few days ago and I believe it was Tuesday night is trying to do the math of when you're listening to this Tuesday nights unfortunately he passed away and leave his In the hospital still Mike. Lavallee was a fantastic painter. Air brusher a few guys are bands of of overhaul and he had done a number of episodes of overhaul and he kind of mastered the real flames. Like the real fire of flames and With this just an amazing airbrush guy in talented painter. A Honda I. I met him never had a chance to have a little conversation or anything with them. But everybody that's ever worked with him You know at loved them said what a wonderful guy. He was an indication. It's like you go and you do something especially in the professional world right you you you know. Let's say bill you do a commercial or you do a TV. Show our guest spot appearance on something. It's all about that second tank. It's it's do you get invited that because if you get invited back that's the impression you WanNa give people like you WanNa go to your character in your work. Yeah if somebody goes. Hey I liked this guy. This guy works. Hardee's fun to be around. Let's get him back here and I don't know how many episodes overhaul on on Mike Lavallee has done. But he was always welcome back again and again the people. So that's always just sort of a good indication of like dude so I don't recall how old he was but but he will be missed. You guys can see his. His website is killer paints dot COM I don't know what what what happens from here. It's all very new but you can certainly still go to the website and And Mike Mike was a friend of mine. You know. I've known Mike Years in He was a wonderful guy. There's no question about that. And there's a guy we that's that's Garage Mahal with Brooklyn and I did. That was actually the first episode that we shot a garage. Mahal right there. Yeah and if you feel the airway for like fifteen seconds I think about ten feet away from me as a Michael Alley helmet creation so quick. Yeah Yeah Okay it's It's kind of interesting on Well it was grabbing it. Mike with sixty was six. Yeah yeah sixties young man. That's a tough hands to get to get down for for such a good dude I WANNA say that garage Mahal is probably and years ago. Yes this was my first Mike Lavallee creation. Yeah like that no no flames but I think he got Gobert. Who's next thing? Dial in pretty damn good. I mean the only thing that was better about Mike and his ability was his character and he was just a terrific guy. And you couldn't have said it any better your performance. Your livelihood is based upon getting that call back and this was the first in. It's surely was not last the helmets of these kids and I he was a staple on overall. And like you said the only thing better about his meeting better but him than equality was his quality of. Person Day was so to his friends and family. Mad You know condolences. Yeah and and and I apologize to you as well because I know he was a friend of yours and you're just finding out basically now on the air that that's that I knew through Chris Jacobson. His site is instagram. This yeah my full clip. The I didn't know how serious it was. Yeah NOT GUYS. Been reaching out Aaron Hagar that. I knew stare with was related. Errands is a fantastic artist and painter near Blanchard does Howletts and he had a big background in set building movies and TV and stop so he knew. Mike Pretty well So he was. He was tax in this morning going. Hey guys bad news You know why. Bites on that Anyway you mentioned You mentioned your yeah you mentioned garage Mahal which was about ten years ago. I want to say that that's probably the first time you and I met person. I mean you probably were big fan of mine and Bert about me. For a long time stalking but garage Baja I think we We did a bill over at At a studio back Apple. The studio and I had work I I. I don't know if that was the first thing that I work with. Blood breeds but Brockman is a television producer. Is that a million shows. But he kind of really started the mainstream automotive. Tv stop with at show rides. That's that's what interests me about his work I wanted to. I wanted to meet him and I ironically outside autographs somewhere where he had somebody also signed autographs and I got. He was the man in black. Everyone anything black now. That's the problem with you. Know by enemies but Yeah I met him there he you know he's an interesting guy for sure he got his own way of going about business but he's very successful in that car space unparalleled yes and. I know he's ended up doing a bunch of other shows by Overhaul and originated with him. Rides originated with him living the low life of low rider. Show a number of other shows right now you did the one with Bodey Stroud in a row the RV we did OPTIMA together. Oh that's right OPTIMA. That's where I met voting. Yeah that's right. The guy says well so he's not shows. I think the new overhaul and shows might be bud men as well that are on motor trend. App But yeah we met on garage Mahal and Adam had like. That's kind of a little car area in the back of his studio and in head. Delta like a countertop like the length of the of the building the width of the building out back. And there's a bunch of guys over there just trying to like. Take out the screws and get it all done. But Adam had a pretty overbuilt because he was figuring into a lot of Wade stuff on and I wasn't going anywhere I remember. You just went over there as on Cisco just just mash top of it just gave crumbling down that you just all off the off. The Wall and it was done. That was just cleanup. Crew that you just you see I dared still had. We don't have all day. It was. It was fantastic. Actually sent me a huge favor. Just chaired off the wrong. The walls brands going to be fine. It worked out. It worked out Do you guys think Jay Leno's garage as well his personal garage. Yeah we did. We did the one at his house and put a turntable right in the middle of that damn thing it was it was a. I love that. Show they kind of Bait and switch me because I thought it was a complete garage show deemed garage. Show where we go and you know guys kid was in the BMX bikes. We turn it into the garage actually. Aren't we the first one was but Yeah it was. It was a great show a lot of fun and met some great guys met you. Met Lavallee boaty met met a bunch of Great Johnson Automotive Space Turn. I've been talking about. He boaty Stroud. You guys norm on car. Cast a quite a bit of snow but Talking to boaty recently. And and you know everybody's kind of shut down but he's just popping over his shop and by himself and doing a little bit of work here and there and some of the car projects he has You know any of these hot rod shops anybody out there. It's like it's not like you're sitting on the money. You've gotta still do some work when you can never doing podcasting and and you know you try to get the business running. You have some kind of income going on but you know we talk a while on on my truck about upgrading steering doing a quick ratio steering box and I got the Fox's blaming river and I did all the measurements on it the box size the pitman arm Slime County Angle. All of its the sang except the mounting bolts or different before bosses three bolts jam. Box has four balls and the frame has like standoffs on it where you where. You bolted The the steering box onto so the frame needs to be like the imagine the auks rain the the inside of it needs to be cut new piece of metal welded on. That's by voting new. A metal welded aunts with new mounting bolts. And then you can get the same work so We're just trying to figure it out that I think he's going to do the work for me. Because he's fantastic fabricator welder and and You know maybe I can just drop off the truck and leave the keys and the next day you. Kinda just POPs over into a shop in the truck will be there waiting for him. And everyone's social distancing and still getting some stuff done by you know we're we're talking about trying to figure it out but You know he's also home in this family and and doing some stuff by Your bill is so entertaining. I gotTa tell you victim to you. Know what we all victims. You know you get one part. Yeah you have to replace everything that's connected to so you're providing me with a lot of entertainment throughout it's a. I've just I scratch it from the beginning. What you said about how far you're going to go with it and that all yes. Doug always changed daily changes hourly you know. Yeah it really does and you guys know that. I've been talking about this speed sensor and the gauges that on the back of the gauge concerts there sustained call the P. Som- yes and it's it's it's a board. It's like a computer board ties into the vehicle speed sensor in the rear differential basically it controls the shift points of the transmission electronically it controls the APS rates and controls the accuracy of the speedometer and with sensor on top of the rear axle housing. I inside there. There's there's a gear. There's a a like a a rain. This This tone rings and the sensor on the on top of the housing is basically like a magna and as these teeth swing by it. It it pulse an accurate readings. So what's happening is replaced the sensors to different ones to try to get an accurate reading. It still not accurate which means unfortunately the tone ring itself is probably damaged worn down or chipper two or something at although I I just had the rear brakes installed Had the the eating true track differential afford three fifty five years? I did all of that work. Could nobody really notice the telling year in there so now after the tone which means everything has to come apart again so to your point? Bill is yes I was like. I don't WanNa have to pay you know. I don't know how much money to pull that whole thing apart. Place one hundred dollars telling rang so I so now I'm going to replace. The axles is well now. I tried to do this before. Lean and and I was thinking about it. Mostly because when you had the guys from gearhead fabrications come out and swap the rear differential on your on your car. When that broke I was thinking. Yeah maybe a little bit of preventative. Maintenance here is is the right thing there. There aren't any over the counter at four the ninety five light I guess just. I don't know if it's the winter the way it set off the axle houses or whatever So there has to be made. So I've got this form with that. I posted on my social media. It's got this crazy forum with all information and you gotta take all the measurements and and send it over to To somebody that builds axles and right. Now I'm talking to guys bark willing saved all the fantastic acts all. It'll still be thirty one spine but much stronger And this is the part I didn't know. So the axle while the axles go in. And there's a scene clip that snaps on that part. I knew and there's been upgrade for a long time. See Clint eliminator. And it's like a burying. It's like aluminum housing Scottish bearing in there. And it's much stronger than the flimsy little seek clip so my thought was go with seek libel imitators really strengthen it up and with the new axles and hardened steel it'll work rape But in talking to a bunch of these guys that that Build the axles. They're saying Hiddensee Clip eliminators good for drag rings but on the streets or even hitting a non across a road course that bearing in that accidents in their ships a little bit and it causes that holds bearing thing to leak so a fix now is would. Nobody wants that. Do Not meet. That's great. Thanks as we gotta take the Take axle housing. The ends were the flanges. Are Those who will be cut off new upgraded flanges will be put on there that eliminate this eclipse and the secret eliminators at all. It's not it's the ultimate six to doing all of that so we're gonNA have plus the Max's made we're going to have new and New Sledge's welded onto the housing. And the whole thing book packed together. But I'm you trying to get the measurements Schreer Axel House Sega. All things you need to get. It's not just the total with just the space between the flange and the brakes and the is irt. You know a little arise for the for the bearing seal and and trying to get these measurements of the whole unit. Let them that's what I keep trying to tell them. Why don't I just send you guys this thing because the idea of like China drive the truck to the shop? Put IT UP ON. Jack Stands Polo wheel off start measuring and seeing what's accurate because the brakes are still on it and everything like you should take all that off to get an accurate measurement. You're you're trying to do the math like the the rotor is. You know three hundred seven inch and then if you add add to the total you know this is sum yourself all. I have to say good luck. You know it's nothing with nudging I'd I dug into. I did it all yesterday and then I emailed the guy all the information and then he's like yeah this maps on adding. Then why don't you do it and I was like okay? I you know I believe you and I was like. Hey man this is what you guys do like. Don't you have some catalog measurements? He's like well. We don't have the ninety five lightning in our catalog. I was like yeah. I know that what you're telling me that the BRONCOS and the F. One fifties is not a million of trucks out there that have basically the same rear enders no way that the ninety I lighting was so special. Or THEY'RE GONNA go. Hey we're gonNA do a whole custom rear end and and you know charged nine hundred thousand dollars to truck back then. It was like. There's gotta be some catalog of information out there where the guys go A. I think you meant this like we've seen a hundred of these rear ends. I think you meant this was the size but I. I don't know we're we're we're getting into it and and you know if if you would ask me right before we started recording. This I would have said the axles. They're going to be made but You know thirty seconds before we started. I got the email back on. Yeah he's measurements. Aren't right so back to the drawing kind of back withdrawing but I spent like happens day yesterday. Eight minutes apart and pulling the Roeder's off resolve I don't know it's just a pain in the ass near it again and I I don't know but that that's that's kind of where we are with With economic craziness. Anyway we'll we'll we'll we'll keep going because I can all day about that stupid thing. What's going on in your garage over there? I see cars back there. You get anything done or just working on rich there. Well No. I'm not getting anything done on these cars. But you know charges down at your heads. Applications parents shoot mechanism everything mountain properly on my daily driver. No you know. They're they're I think defenders were sent from speaker down a do. Believe you're doing all the plumbing the turbos right now sixty to ninety days. We're looking at complete so you know probably when this when everything's lifted I'll be able to have my cutback. Let's see. We'll see yeah. There's there's lots that were decided on right now or deciding on the rear wheels. The width of the tires offsets. Just every little single you know about rebuilding the car's paint scheme on what we're going to do with the carbon-fiber I think we may go a different color with the carbon-fiber as I look at the the Challenger. That speaker did in your aggregations there. You know it's it's Mitch should but I don't want a car exactly like so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA change the paint scheme up a little bit. Do some exposed colored carbon acid favorite color is blue. So I'm going to throw the DART Bluer little maybe petty kind of blue or something. That black man. It's GonNa look good. Yeah I think that looked pretty. Good the The black Wide-body the carbon-fiber are challenged her. That you had At Sima Dad came out fantastic because the cars lacking honestly the carbon Pretty close to being all all black by they did the right combination as you can see now is in leaving some of the carbon fiber exposed but then showing off arts and then sold on the black car so that presented really well. But you're right you know maybe like on that. Challenger right there. You have the The carbon fiber fenders on it as well. So it it it. Can you have the the The esotique stripes done in carbon-fiber. Doing a doing a red carpet or balloon carbon on that. But I is is the charger getting carbon-fiber fenders or just a wide body is all body. Widebody Enzi of the flyers lightbody hood stuff like this same thing minus defenders. Yeah I don't know if they even do fenders yet for the for the charter speed. Anybody speed course. Yeah they offer of yet. But but that's a good question it's probably gonNA show up on their menu at some point but because the the the all wheel drive Turbo Car. That was in the magazine. I don't think that was all carbon fiber. I don't think it had the carbon fiber fenders everything. I think it had the other stuff that you're talking about the flares in the hood and stuff but that's only might have done like a front bumper covering because I remember having a cutouts in it for for the for the intakes turbos. Yup Yeah I gotTa look at more more in detail. But I'd be curious to find out if they had ever building on those carbon centers Anyway before we wrap up I know you're a you'RE NASCAR guy. He's been quite a bit with them in our friends over at At the track over there gave us some some some tickets to the racism. We send people out. But everyone's doing the ice racing or virtual racing simulator racing last week Adamant I spoke to Simon Passionate From his home he He did a video chat with us. He was telling about the racing program. And rescheduling of the indy. Five hundred to August and he built his whole array of the I. Racing thing with three monitors and all that stuff and and by the way his dog. Norman passionate got so famous after indy. Five hundred from all his photos that he got sponsored. Norman passionate norm gets advise zones food. Now let's see if we can get chargers sponsored charger. Deeds against sponsored. He's he's his fee is a lot His his expenses are allied greater but Anyway right over at At NASCAR I don't know if you had a chance to meet Kyle Larson but Kyle Larson was was participating in The IRA saying. I don't know if it's I racing specifically that they were doing. They were doing the virtual racing some entertainment for everybody and I got himself a little bit in trouble. somewhere during the broadcast. He was talking to. I believe he was talking to like his spotter and he said Hey. Can you hear me n word? And he used n word. I don't think he was just doing it. Like jokingly because obviously is doesn't matter. Yeah but it didn't go over well At not even share like like first NASCAR suspension. Then he gets fired yesterday. Yeah so what was happening was right. Nascar suspended on saying it's kind of out of line especially for something that's meant to be kind of fun and in lieu of of Racing. We're trying to fill the gap but some innocent virtual racing and it wasn't it wasn't like he was arguing with somebody or yelling at somebody was talking to was in the militias tone. Now he wasn't but the whole life still stupid to like. Why why? Why do it right. Nascar needed a suspend him and then chip Ganassi who is a fan of his obviously in runs. The team that erases for he was saying Kyle bad news man Our sponsors are calling and they're all saying this is this is not only flex in of of what we want our athletes debate. I think this is an important thing. you know you being You know building a career as as as an athlete is I do agree. There is some responsibility to public athletes. That are of course are being sponsored with with future brands and money if if somebody's coming in and going. Hey Tiger Woods of Nike or so and so You're going to get paid. A bunch of money doesn't matter if it's five thousand dollars or fourteen million dollars when you accept that money you're representing that company and there should be some standard that you need to be hell to be saying. Hey we're representing because we like you. We think you're a good guy near could athlete my tune. If you take our money you need to uphold these values. I think it's that's an understatement. I mean there's a huge responsibility or someone such as myself or Kyle Larson or Michael Jordan or whoever it may be I'm an amid no way shape or form comparing myself but you have a responsibility in the Pequoima who employees to the people who you are an extension of their product. You have a huge responsibility also as a human being of conduct yourself in a proper way in two thousand twenty. Yeah I'll just I'll just end there. I mean it's a responsibility. That should be upheld. And if you don't and you know they're they're sugar-beet thank God. There are repercussions and surely he can make his way back. There's no question about it won't be a thing believing second-tier that's the thing is is chicken. Asi says Love you kyle. This is unfortunate. What happened here. You should've never said that sponsors are pulling out of this. I have no choice but to let you go. Otherwise I'm I've still got to run a business. I've got to get a car on the track. And and all this money's GonNa walk away if I don't let you go right. So so he's out so he basically gets gets gets fired doesn't mean there's not a future for him at some point with chip. Ganassi or another team. I'm sure these eight adobe bring him back you know. They're they're saying they're they're open to it for sure and and look another team. He's still a good driver Another team could pick him up It just means he's GonNa get picked up at a much lower salary and say. Hey we'll we'll take a chance on but of course. Now you know you have to be on your best behavior and the only way to earn those big dollars again. This is now it's going to take years for you to get back to where you are so the question that I think people are asking. What he said was was not good bite. He didn't say like in an argument or malicious attend like you said is the punishment exceeding the crime. Or It's a business. You your sponsors backout because of a driver. That you employ your. You're not running a fiscally responsible business because you're not. You're not filling positions with people that you should be that should be representing your company if they act in a manner such as that whether it was a mistake or not. I I understand the difference between being malicious and just have a a goofy adolescent mistake. But you know you should be. You should prepare yourself in every situation for the works and make sure that never happens and his train of thought leaves you checked. You know it's it's it's your right and from a business standpoint I would say overall it feels like the punishment is too big but not from the individual business standpoint because emphasis sponsors McDonald's and credit one bank where I believe or to the sponsors Add an Chevrolet is well. They may say okay. This is bad. We don't think you should lose your career over this but something needs to be done but there isn't one of these companies that can be exception to the punishment rule. So if Chevrolet says you're out and credit one bank says you're out but Donald can't say a we think you've got punished enough. We're good with you because they're McDonald's is going. Oh so you endorse this behavior. So each one of these companies needs to look at it individually and because of that it all piles up and says. Unfortunately you're you're out you know. Would perception means everything these yeah it does especially when it's a sponsor relationship it's all about me getting the word out there to publicly right. That's that's what it is if he was scientists that he was building the cure for Kobe. Nineteen and he said something stupid. I can understand the pharmacy going. Hey man you need to get a unique to get a hand slap here but also you need to get your ass back into the lab right. Maybe your child is now easily. Yeah your job is no more press releases right. I you know if you're a a CNN anchor or a racing car driver or whatever like you have responsibility publicly so anyway of A whole unfortunate situation and unfortunately it's it puts like Nascar these sponsors it all in a little bit of a bad light because it's you know why not just be nice right it would have been a great event but instead of all the press surrounding. The event is isn't analysis. Now it's now it's now this but Anyway so I was going through the news going through more new stuff. And unfortunately there's more like bad news companies downsizings of so before we wrap up. I'm just GONNA leave a bit of good news for US enthusiasts in the car world and I went to the to the launch of the Ford Mustang Mach e even not called the Mustang. We've done this discussion. The MACHI is the electric little. Suv looks good. It had some good performance numbers and now that some of these Specs are starting to get leaked to the dealers on because you're prepping dealers how to order the vehicles and stuff. It looks like it's going to have a little bit more power than forward. Initially thought it was going debate. That's now and it's it's not massive amounts where you're looking at fifteen sixteen. You know extra horsepower in other another ten twelve pound feet of Torque by it just shows that They set some goals for for certain ratings like with distance and performance and and they need of balance that in our cars. The cars behind you there. There's always a balance between a miles per gallon and and emissions versus the performance of vehicle. Can you make that? He thinks that extra performance. No it doesn't seem like that's why they were able to release the higher numbers is they had the benefit of saying. Hey we can still achieve our our whatever two hundred thirty mile or two hundred eighty mile overall distance on the battery and still increase performance. You know now. Instead of five point five seconds it could be five point. Four seconds zero to sixty and that translates to a little bit extra horsepower but extra tour so That's kind of Redo it and you know that the red the red eye behind you if you just bought a red eye off the showroom floor for five hundred bucks you can buy handheld tuner and add some horsepower to it by just changing the air fuel ratio. Whatever right is it as efficient? May you know do? Do you still get is you have these red is. Don't give a fine flip about efficiency right so what we're really talking about. Is the manufacturer releasing the car in a very usable state between efficiency and horsepower performed truth and then as owners? We have the luxury of going. Great now I want to alter that so Ford is saying. Hey if we met the two hundred eighty mile range but we re Lunaga a tenth off zero sixty now. We can reconfigure our numbers and say that it's a little bit more powerful. So that's kind of NEAT I. I'm still a fan of trying to drive one of these things. When it comes out you know again. I don't I don't care if it's called the Mustang or not but I liked the idea for doing an all electric vehicle. I'm not necessarily there yet on buying the all electric vehicle. I I kind of like what I like. We all do everything I have is old out. But And and apparently needs axles but I've driven the Tesla and a few other vehicles and I am curious to see how this perform I was in I rode in the mock e but haven't had a chance to drive it but I did drive like I said I. Test drove the Jaguar. I pace and this feels as close to an eye pace as there is out there. That was fun. Arrive Interesting comment because that that I heard nothing but great things about and so the pace is interesting in it it. It moves grade the electric vehicle. It's fast it's a good size especially for for La for city. It's got a little bit height to it so you know when you're hitting a bumper you know You know in and out of the driveways and the speed bomb. It's not an issue but it's not like an SUV. And and the Mach e- seems to kind of be the more affordable version of that and A little more. He's one of those that's for sure. Yeah and and so. Why not so? I'm a fan of having that out there. I mean you're never going to take away the toys that I have the toys that you have that love but I I can see commuting in a in a mock e to the studio a few days a week when this whole a- lockdown lifts and then. I got my car here that that you know I fire up into a lawn and have some fun with and you know It's all good but anyway this interesting news about democracy and I think I think the performance of those vehicles you're gonNA find better numbers than they initially thought when these actually a hit showroom floor so anyway Fun Staff we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA wrap it up so I can go into a another podcast Before I do just a shout your friends at Dodge again Did reach out your local dodge dealer in our guys over there. They bring you performance technology and great deals. And there's never been a better time right now because dodges offering power dollars with power dollars. You'll get ten dollars off for each horse. Power of your new car. That's every dodge charger. Every Twenty Nineteen Dodge Challenger. Doesn't matter made you can pull away in a twenty nineteen dodge charger. 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The Return of Matt's Ford Lightning

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The Return of Matt's Ford Lightning

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Jabber man, but I'm not as happy as you are. Delivery of. Mere minutes ago, mirror minutes ago I'll tell you guys about that finally picked up the. picked. Up The four lightning with the latest rounds of modifications. But before we get started, it's it's time for dodge power dollars that means for each horse power. You get ten dollars off your purchase of a dodge charger challenger or Durango. So come on in for Dodge power dollars today for pretty sweet deal. Yes so It's interesting that not a ton of new car news going on right now but. I wanted to go and pick up the truck. As you guys know just a little recap is. I took the four lightning in I'm taking it then getting stuffed on bringing it back, driving it working. Instead of just taking a project off the road. Bill, you understand that you you. You take a big build like that. It sits for months maybe year you're just trying to get updates, but especially when it's at a state. You can't even see it. You can't even visit it. You can't figure out what's you know what's really going on? There's a good and the bad part of that. Yeah. Is So. You know like like the Mustang Cobra that I have I wanted to do so much of that work myself. You know life gets in the way time gets in the way. I find now. There's been so much. So much. So many changes in the shop over here and we're moving to the new building at. Some point but. That was tied up in permits, and now there's just pallets of stuff like wrapped in cellophane and it's tough to find tools I went in a couple of weeks ago to work on the Mustang and. I spend way more time just looking for tools than I did anything else. We just don't have anything like Sean obviously has his box which rightfully. So nobody likes to touch other people's tools right? So he's got his box huge thousand dollars, worth of stuff all locked up and I have some tools. And, then we have sort of a sort of a grab all box of tools like if you're going to the track, you can grab some stuff out of their throat in the mobile box and. Because we had done attract day and then the mobile box get emptied and that's locked away someplace. Anyway it's it's kind of a mess. Oh So for the lightning I. Have done a lot of the work myself on the vehicle mostly on the interior stops certainly stripping the interior and all the Hush Matt and all that stuff. And and redoing a few things that todd who cover and stuff. But Going back and forth with a friend over GALP and auto sports on getting some things done they installed the suspension that I. brought it back and then I did some changes to the super charger and swap out and set it out for the rebuild and brought it back and. The latest round was. The steering I wanted to improve the steering. And I wanted to attempt the fix the vehicle speed center that's mounted not on the transmission like a lot of vehicles it's mounted in the rear for housing, right? So Yes. No, this is where is. Is In regards to the speed. Center. The guys did everything. They put the tone ring in the you know on on the differential. And, put the center in the housing, and before they they sealed it all up they. They made sure that the gap between the basically the magnet on the sensor and the tone ring was was perfect and. They can you know you can you can basically see it while it's in there they put it together and the ABS light was still on and then they said the speedometer still wiggling a little bit and I said. All right. We'll look at if mechanically you think everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be everything is suspect mechanically, that could be some sort of computer issue I said. So don't worry about it for now because we're GONNA do the engine swap and the transmission swap. But so they said, hey, we just can't figure figuring out. Without getting into the computer or something and I said no problem if mechanically, you got it. Then, don't worry about it. And they said fine and then. They delivered the truck to me. With the ES light on and I tell you I. I just drove it here and doing the you know twenty miles or something on the freeway and getting it up to speed I. Think was an getting it close enough to to put some miles on it. So the computer can relearn what's going on and it's as frustrated as they were with the APS light on. It went off and stayed off so far. It's off now. So that's good. That's good for two reasons one. Is when the APS light is on, the Rear Aba doesn't work. So right now it should work so good a little bit safer you know. To this shifting of the transmission which is controlled by a board on the back of the gauges which is controlled by the the vehicle speed sensor the BSS. It seems to be good. It seems to be on point now, the little wavy speedometer needle that's going on that oftentimes has to do with the distance between the center and the tone ring it it does get crazy open that. Seventy mile hour range so. I'm less concerned with that. If the ABS light is off and the shift points are hitting, I'm less concerned with the speedometer thing I can use a gps on my phone I could not care whatever right. mm-hmm. So. So far that seems good. Now, of course, when they rebuilt the rear end for me, I had them upgrade to the Mark Willingham axles and I measured that guy and two or three times and I was like I. Know if it's a hair long or hair short, we can work around it. And It worked out fine. It wasn't one hundred percent bolt in it I. Guess it was a hair long and what it did is wasn't making a real difference in the Axel Housing and all that stuff or even how it spacing the wheels all it did was move the break, move the brakes a slightly, and that was pushing on him. They were skewed a little bit so we had a machine. Tiny Spicer's just for getting the breakout look if that's all we had to do. That's a win in my book. So now we've got that rear end button up I've got the eaten Pasi differential in it. I've got the new tone rank three, fifty, five years or all brand new got brand new Mark William Axles in it. Here. Okay. So the steering. Is is good. So what we ended up doing was The idea was to get a string box inflaming river. That was a really quick twelve to one ratio. Cut, the, frame our own mounting and make it work. What we realized was this has a reverse box in it. The Ford is a reverse box. So the pitman arm basically pushes forward instead of rear. I believe it's four I gotta look at that again Well, the steering linkages in front of the box now behind. So it it the box and the pitman armor where you would normally see it but instead of bolting to the back of the pulse to the front, which reverses this sharing. So when we put the box and you would turn the wheel left in the car would go right so. There was no way to fix that there is no reverse gear set for that. Four flaming river for the twelve one. So we reached out to all the locals out here. There's a group called lease. Power steering. They. CUSTOM-MADE A box. For us it is a pretty conventional GM box. They. They've evolved it. Basically to St SPEC. Street performance specs the way, the vehicle and whatever. So that part's good. It bolted in. where the GM flaming river boxer us that that was not the issue. But they they don't have a twelve to run reverse gear set. They only have a fourteen to one which was fine. We were at like sixteen or something sixteen and a half or whatever stock. So. I wanted it to be tighter now. We didn't want to cut up the whole front end and do a rack and pinion steering like you'd have to hold a whole new suspension everything for it. That could be something we can do down the line who knows I wanted to find an easier solution. So. The new boxes and they made some new power steering lines for it. They put a new cooler on it. And then the steering shaft, which the Ford Shaft is a collapsible peace with Iraq joint on the end and with the weight of the truck and the performance driving the Rag Joan, would wear very very quickly. So I brought them. A. Flaming River Universal collapsible solid steel shaft with two new you joints and I said, let's see if we can make this work I think I got it specked out the right spine counts at the firewall and the stair in the steering box. Let's see if we can work make it work. You're to have to cut the ends. You know you basically get the collapsible portion in the center and then you cut the ends to length and I said if it doesn't work I did buy a new stock. A steering shaft right so you could use it Scott the rag joint maybe somewhere down the road, you can switch the rubber joint to urethane joint or something, but I said if we get the steering solid after work. Went in no problem. That was fine. So now I've got a brand new steering box I've got fourteen to one ratio I've got a solid steering shaft. And it is fantastic driving it on the way here. So much of that slop is out. It's not completely gone just because of the. The antiquated steering setup with the really long arms and this and that. But Oh, my God, what a what a difference imperatively. Nine dates like when I just got my chirping? Yeah. It really it really is and now what you're going to feel a little bit more of the road through that solid shaft, right? There's no you know. Honestly a lot of that I think would be as I make revisions to the suspension maybe go to a coil over jousting the shocks and things like that everything's non adjustable rate. And organ. Right I really think I can improve on that a little bit but what a night and day different so What I recommend anybody do this and pay attention Mr, Stone Cold Steve Austin, because he's been following for his Rocco. Other. Route Man I would say, no, don't do it the way I. Did it don't go to this box One I do like the solid steering shaft, not for everybody but I do like it it. It's given me the feedback in the performance that I want. I would find out from lease or somebody else if you can rebuild the Stock Ford box to of quicker fourteen to one ratio I. Don't remember I remember when I called around everybody was telling me no, you can't. They don't even make that gear said but I think I was calling around and asking for twelve to one because I wanted the original flaming River Spec twelve to one and everyone was telling me no, I don't remember if they said you can get fourteen to one right if you can get gear set for that Ford box fourteen to one that's your solution take the. Head all my God you know cutting the frame anything and because I couldn't get twelve one anyway if you can rebuild the box to fourteen to one, just take off the stock steering box it's pretty simple. You don't have to change any of the lines and the and the cooler. It's not really like a cooler just got like a squiggly line like an s shape line and and and and it's kind of in the path of Aaron it's sort of their their their power steering cooler. You can get the box rebuilt fourteen to one I say do it, and then that'll help and then step two would be while you're in there at least replace the rag joint I would see if you can find a a urethane rag joints somebody like Profane or energy suspension probably makes a universal urethane rag joint and I think what you'll get is you'll split the difference. You'll get a little bit more feedback a little bit more vibration, but it won't wear nearly as quickly and it'll feel much tighter suspension so. Y-, instead of spending thousands of dollars like I did are in being this I would say try to rebuild the box you have maybe the stall hearing shaft or the urethane rag joint and you'll be you'll be happy with what it is, and if you're just driving around like Steve dozen his Bronco and he's around town or whatever it'd be fantastic. He's not gonNA drop the truck or swap the engine or build the thousand horsepower or you know what I'm saying. So he doesn't need this road racy suspension look I. His case study over these past three months. No. But every time I post something he's I, get a text or a phony. So I'm keeping an eye on what you're let Mike Musto. He's doing the same thing. He's very interested with his Bronco. He's got a gorgeous Bronco and I'm telling you guys I would just try to rebuild the box. If you can't rebuild the box, you can do what I did. I don't know that. It's the most effective solution. You you might WanNa just make the jump to a whole new suspension and I've looked around everywhere For Bolt on suspension kits front and rear, and all that stuff. There isn't really anything out there. But there's a shop in Arizona. I. Forgot the the name of it like it's like I don't know fat tire fabrication or fat man something fat something or other, and I spoke to the guys a little bit just an email and they say, hey, we have a four link coil over conversion with a with a notch frame kit. It doesn't require a whole tub kit whatever it just notches the frame just enough to that. You won't be bottoming out like ice still have a little bit when I lower the truck, it was great there. So we shorten the suspension travel so much. It just makes a little bumpy. I have some ideas on how to fix it on what I'm going to do next but these guys have a four link and I talked to them about a front suspension. They said, we don't have it yet. We are working on it. They make a full frame full. Full. Frame a conversion convergence upgrades for Ford Bronco and a bunch of Ford F. One fifties and Ford F one hundred's there are all over. Game and and they have like a front clip, the rear four link, and they've done it for almost every generation Ford except for this. Right so they're going to just take what they've done. He said it's probably going to end up being. Like a rack and Pinion steering conversion and stuff, you can't do the rack and Pinion steering conversion on the twin I beam setup that's in the truck. Now because there's just too much movement, you would you would just throw off your bump steer. Pretty pretty drastically and I know you can do that whole. Like Crown Vic Front end swap but. It's it's not it's not the best. So what I was experimenting with was, are there some baby steps some smaller easier ways of improving the ride in the handling of truck like this without cutting off the front and her doing a whole front end conversion? The answer is, yes you can lower you could you can. You can upgrade the steering box right? There was so much slop in the steering to begin with not even just the ratio just the slop alone just by eliminating all of that. It felt like night and day difference and then having a little bit quicker ratio. Is is is huge. I still would've loved to gone to a twelve to one. Right. Twelve and a half to I would have liked to have seen that but. The the the next step for me or the only step beyond this would be a front end kind of conversion with rackets and I'm sure it would be different and I know all the guys doing. A. Auto Cross and road racing their trucks and stuff. You know all the C. Tens and the early fords and and the guys at ride tack and Qa off and they've all have just like a whole big conversion for it. They just don't have it for this year truck. But I think it's coming I. think it's coming because these trucks are. People are starting to see. There's a lot of them out there and they're looking pretty cool. The. The gauge issue with with the speed ometer jumping around is I've gone back and forth a few times with Dakota digital, who will can custom make ages and stuff I. I've got it in the Mustang I've used them before and they can they. They have sort of a custom shop that can do this stuff. and. It's not something that they offer over the counter because of that board on the back that controls the shifting and all that's not. So they would have to they have a device I forgot what they call it, but it's sort of simulates. The feed the. From from vehicle speed sensor, and they can put it in sort of a patch right? It's sort of clears. Cleans up the signal. But. I'm having the I'm having the transmission built by Bullard transmissions. It's a four eighty E. G. M. Transmission. We're probably GONNA run a gear vendors unit on the back that's going to require a standalone computer. You know transmission controller, right? So I'M GONNA. Take the Ford shifting controlling at a you know from the gauges out of the equation. Okay. That'll help right. So now I can control the shifting all on my own with that computer. And then when I put the new engine, because this is a is not a mass airflow systems the speed density system, the fuel injection system in this truck is shit. So when I when I do The Big Four twenty seven and and Super Charter I'm going to go to a holly fuel injection system. So now I'm taking that out of the equation that standalone itself. So all I have left is the vehicle speed sensor. Talking to the speedometer and the APS breaks. If. I can get Dakota digital to make me a brand new gauge cluster, light it up the one I. Want I want all that stuff if they have their device that simulates the vehicle speed, sensor signal and makes. My abs breaks work. Then that's the only thing because now the speedometer is on them, I just WanNa cable in there. I don't need to do it all electrically and Blah Blah Blah I'm good to go so all I need is Dakota digital to solve the ABS break issue now I could say hey I don't want to run ABS breaks and on just run it like a racing car no ABS, which is which is fine how maybe I can even put a switch on it and go Off and on depending if I'm going to the track or not, right. But. Adding more stuff to go you know. But if they could solve the issue of of the in the V s then. It's not a bad idea to just have them. Worthy. Of Subic Dakota. Dakota. Stupid Yeah. I I. I I haven't been out to their place or anything like that. So. I don't know. But I've worked with him before I know a guy over there. They're very nice. They're pretty smart guys. They're they're far more into electronics than they are some of the gauge manufacturers. Get these guys on the show and yeah. Let's all learn about it in real time. Yeah. It's a good idea and because they're gonNA, they're gonNA I. I talked to them on the phone I said Hey let's make a gauge cluster in like it's not that easy because that's stupid. Cluster has the board on the Computer Board on it and and it controls all this other junk and it gets it gets messy and whatever. So mechanically I'm getting a good feed we know that so. I had my gauge cluster rebuilt said it was fine. But. The brand new Ford Motor craft speed sensor, not some knockoff. Brand new tone ring. Gaps perfectly mechanically it's fine. Right, and now the BS like off. We'll see how long it lasts. I'll drive it. That tells me. There's something going on with the gauge cluster and the speed dominator or or the cable or something like that right? So that's That's the least of my worries because of its shifted right and the brakes work right so That's kind of where we are and. I just picked it up this morning before I came here. Of Trial and error with those with those guys by the guys at galloping. Absolutely nailed it. There is something to say with. With a let's say, a customization shop or a hot rod shop that is also part of, let's arguably a billion dollar a year. Dealership network the Galveston family, dealers. The amount of years they have. Modifying vehicles not just fourth but modifying vehicles with with this particular instance. Yeah. There's always like the one guy that's like, yeah, I've been turning wrenches on forge for thirty five years I've been. Calvin for twenty seven years and he goes I remember working on these trucks when they were new and they would come in and it goes by the way when you when you put the sensor in there. The bolt need to be torture a certain SPEC, which isn't in the manual, and you only need to use this type of thread lock. I suppose. So whatever because? It it screws up the sensor otherwise or whatever. So it was nice having that guy there. which is good. And these guys stand behind what they're doing. I told them to drive told him to test it. I told him A. And and they did so I think I think we're in pretty good shape with all that stuff of course right when you get it, I've been driving different press cars in the Volvo the pulse stare pollstar everything else. I. Got into this thing rides rough is just so loud. I realized it's twenty five year old truck. But. It's both the willies out yesterday. In half. Drove around the properties of the first time you know Noah emergency brake on it which makes the hills quite interesting. Yeah. when things stalls on your but man I'll tell you what The simplicity of those vehicles you bring them out. You know it's. It's I don't know seven eight days of one hundred degrees and above here's about own out any of the classics. But. This sound bitch. This is what this was made. And taking it out yesterday man it just rekindled the fact that these cars path they just don't build them like they used to nurse so much and they're easy to break and work on until you start hanging suffer. Taxicabs Yeah Yeah. It's funny. They don't build them like they used to for good or bad. It's it is what it is. Right it's just meant. It's raw. It's it's it's. It's so simple. Yeah. It's Larry but it's it's just so much fun. So it brought back that. Feeling. Are you using it just around. The property is it. It's funny when you pull that thing out, does that ride better or worse than one of the UTV's you'd run around on the property rights better I mean. It's got its advantages and disadvantages for sure I mean the height in there of the things you know built for people such as yourself with the stature of. Fifteen year olds but. So. So I mean, but you know the type, the the the normal normal issue tires. Single go through anything absolutely anything but in reverse and you can go reddening. But. Just. The ease of of entry and exit of the vehicle alone makes it not practical to us out here. Doing. So I mean, it's more of a tour vehicle round the property on the use it as a workhorse by any stretch imagination plus the amount of money that I put in the restoration. It's more of more of a just drive around. The camera car. It'd be a camera car. I had a lower my truck just get in and out of it. Now Walk to it. Trampoline to get into this guy. Sure. I'm sure how's the? How's the Dodge truck running the? Trucks running great. The problem is I can't take it off the property because I lost the title and I can't I have to physically be back in California to replace the year. Yes all that story. So yeah, I use it on the property also. But as far as a RV on the highway other than. Being chased by the police which I don't want to have happened because California to act expired years. So I I'll have to check in later on I. I've had I've had the lightning for a year now because the the registration just came in the Mail on my brother. Got It in Arizona because you don't have it registered in Arizona and. You know I didn't do anything special when I when I when I registered it but now I'm like, yeah now, I I've got it for keep fighting, get custom plates or personalized plates I, pick a color and get it in black or whatever doesn't that put it in perspective that you've had it for that long. Actually, how long have you driven? It seems like it's still really new to me because I don't have a ton of see time in it but I'm thinking back like right when I got it I took it apart. I- thrashed on that thing we took it to Sima. Drag it a couple of hours north to get it painted and brought back and I stripped the interior into the entire. You know all the hush mad sound deadening layers and the audio system in it and had all the custom stuff in the interior the you know the swayed on the door panels and. Lowered it and you know took the bed off and painted part of the frame underneath the bed like all this shit. These guys when. When they took the rear out when they took the rear differential out and they were cleaning it up they were just scraping it with the wirebrush on this is not going to happen so. They know be well enough over there. So. Tommy is the general manager. He Goes Hey, I walked up and go hey man this differential housing. Good. He's like, yeah, it's yours. Want US trying to clean it. So I just sort of made an executive decision. Had It sandblasted powder coated or gloss black because? I? Didn't think you'd mind now this is a great idea I was GonNa ask you anyway. was already there was done. Yes. So already this truck has gone through so much stuff, but it's still kind of feels new to me and. To just the seat. Part and bad part about getting cars worked on right. It's bad that they're going for that period of time because you want to drive out of sight out of mind you know if you got another vehicle to drive or you know as he gets thanks for taking time. Twenty four hour stay. It's in front of ice the law, right? Yeah I. Oh yeah. I haven't talked to Marcus in a month. Right, and in all honesty, the car's probably being finished about looks pretty done. I think just recently he posted something on on instagram and it looked like it was like on the ground wheels and tires but. Absolutely no. I, know. I so I kind of put it in the back of my mind and I forget about it so that when I do think about it, it's a positive instead of negative, right? Yeah. So There's a good a bad part of this car restoring Business Hobby addiction whatever we got going on. So sure well. So speaking of where to put it. We saw we saw the rendering stuff of the garage and we we saw the guys from Metro and posting a few images, little teasers as well and. You know we like to check in with you when you when you start laying some foundation over there when you start. Well. There's maybe there's There was there was yet another hiccup in. The. The plan filing because I took it upon myself to investigate the possibility of solar. Yes. And after two weeks of going back and forth with sober I've scrapped the idea and that's done nothing but put the papers five again why it seems like a good idea is just working like a great idea except for the fact that what I moved to Texas, I didn't take note of the fact that there's no solar on any house. I haven't seen solar on one house now how it's completely different. Yeah and out here, I can't understand it except for the fact that he might certain situation the benefit that I was looking for for solar was to be able to bank power and to use it in my bag. Yeah just. So that I could be off the grid case God forbid some after lightning storm, you'll get the battery backups keep charge get at least. Twelve hours or whatever of power that's yeah. Then I have to retrofit my existing house and connect the two and then by the batteries to be able to bank the. Correct Yeah I'm. Arguably say I'm a quarter mile away from where by your. God only knows what's GonNa, cost routing something under the ground that's insists of ninety eight percents rock. So I what I'm doing is what we do a microcosm with our cars. One thing ends up leading to another young. We make one decision then we're like, oh, we'll. That areas taken care of, but there's an assisting area that also needs to be addressed. Right. You know so I mean, it's just a continual process. So I came to the point yesterday where I said the last thing you. Do not and I repeat do not let the take any more nutritious. As I'm driving myself crazy on. We'll bottom is Z. myself and I have no one to blame but myself. Because I. You know only you'll get to do it once right and so I wanNA. Make sure every you guys are going through the same and these issues and everybody has. Bill Houser of Doghouse you. WanNa. Do it right the first time? So you don't have to go back. So you know there's so many things to cover on on a structure like that houses that many beat you guys know you in Cro. We're doing a real time also so it's just you want to get it done right. But at the same time, you want a damn thing started because it can't be finished until it start. Yeah. So why? To delay an answer I'm still live. Why? And Planning. Still Permits Fire. Why do you think people in the area? And I don't know if it's statewide community-wide citywide. Why is it that? No one else has running solar is it is it a permanent tax issue? Is it a? Is it so many incentives out here for and in all honesty? Looking at fifteen thousand square foot structure and the way proposed it I mean, it wasn't. That huge of an investment to begin with. Yeah it's just. It's just again it's more more. Building in more plan and I I've had an. Just completely had enough I can't take any more delays at the at the end of the day. The benefit I think is gonNA. Isn't going to be enough for me to. Push. Another two weeks another bunks you know they get or plans drawn up is continue to make this thing lobotomize. It was my idea I came up with two three weeks ago and so I have no one to blame a myself but you know again. Yeah. I don't know. I can't answer at the question as to why there's no soul rally I really don't know whether it's right. or whether it's businesses or whether it's you know homeowners, I don't know the incentive so huge. And the sunlight I mean, my God we're going on Saturday of hundred so Yeah. I? Don't I don't know that's kind of interesting. I'd be curious to look into that a little bit more. I'M WHY More people have in it and. Not Not to beat around the Bush where you live in the surrounding homes. Are you know there's some wealthy people in that area? So it seems like some of them have considered this type of investment before I go. Hey, we've got a lot of square footage Tatas hell out here. The cost to keep everything. Cool with air conditioning must be a fortune. So why? Why not take advantage of of if you're saying there are incentives. State or city wide. I wonder what it is. That's that's going on I. Wonder if like something that was done on all these houses back in the day where the cost of retrofitting doesn't make sense or or what I. It's. It's it's an interesting thing. I mean, it's not really correlated for us but because we're going off on this but it's just kind of. Kind of kind of interesting to. Yes listen. There's nothing points to answer. In in California they're they're starting to make almost mandatory I. Think I think new builds build something new residential place at least in Santa Monica. It's a requirement has to have it. There's not going to be. Santa. Monica was one of the I say yeah. If you're going to build a new house, you gotTa have it. You gotTa have some solution so. I don't know what the rules are completely if let's say. A new house has to have solar or has to batteries. Or both. Version of the grid charges, your batteries, and then when you need to, you can use the batteries. Let's say at night or whatever, and then it recharges. So it does. Kind of lessen the blow. If you will also keep in mind that California's infrastructure out here, we have no way of. Of. Capturing, large amounts of power. So if everybody out here got solar and we sold back energy to the state, they got no place to put it. They have to sell it off to Arizona or whatever. Right? So they have to. Do all that but. So their system is super antiquated as well. Anyway by point was speaking of Arizona was. The registration and I qualify for the electric car insurance and is I told you guys I've got catalytic converters and all that stuff on it and I kept all the emission stuff but it is registered emissions exempt. So I don't have to fuss with it. And no front license plate in Arizona, which is nice. And the new registration because the truck is twenty, five years old I register five years. I got five years in advance and it's like hundred, eighty, five bucks and even when you get personalized plates and you pay the fee five years, personalized plates, emissions example like three. Hundred. Bucks. So got that don plates in the mail. Ready to go on that and you're right during this. During this downtime, if you will away from the truck, of course, it's local. So I was able to visit and take pictures and check in with them and all that was. Allowed me. To, focus on getting, you know getting the BMW three dial getting it ready to to sell I just dropped it off at. At the body shop guy that was just too small things there was there was a little tiny ding on the on the trunk lead. I don't know just what it was in storage or somebody rested. Who knows what but just the painless dent repair guys just GONNA knock that out very, very subtle but I can see the bugs me some doing that. And I guess what's pretty common on these cars when they when they're outside and get a Lotta Sun, the the the gasket, the black trim piece around the front windshield sorta deteriorates and get a little gummy and sticky and whatnot the windshield is fine and it's the original. BMW. Glass. So they're going to scrape off that seal and put a new BMW piece in there that we ordered up and. Then the. Big Difference it's not yeah it'll. It'll. It'll look I just wanted to to get it cleaned up as much as possible I. I want somebody to buy the best version of this m three that I can make for them. You know. So we'll. Get back in a couple of days you know I I've been driving it a little bit and it's fast. That joss screams man nothing halls. And? So it's GonNa look it's going to run good. I would like to I. Don't know if I have to do anything else mechanically on it. It seems like it's all pretty dialed in I I. It sat for a few weeks. I. Had to put a new battery in it. So that's new. I'd like to get it over onto the Dinah. We've just been struggling with scheduling that done just so I can get you guys. You know a nice rear wheel horsepower number. Two to go with with the sale of this thing, and then it should be good to go. It's just turned twenty seven thousand miles. It's basically new runs. Great. So that'll be that'll be. That'll be kind of the next step. Waiting, for Diana, numbers. Should be I would think within the week we got the K. W. suspension in in from Germany. During measure on virus. Finally. got that installed those guys. bharioke stuff. GonNa fire under his ass. Neutral. Enough. Taking up my lift over here. Let's get this out of here. Get, another one. I talked to Survive Zhou. We got a jury thrones wheels on it and I still won't tell me what schemes GONNA look like. You know here's another issue with getting cars on when you put it in someone else's hands to be creative. You hadn't. It increases your anticipation. Absolutely. No he asked me what finish on the wheels Nice ally how the hell am I going to make that determination when I don't even know what it's like? Yeah Yeah. That's good. Point on the aesthetics of the car and. IDEA when it's Dark. So that's another caveat of. It's like Christmas I I called him and offered by their Mustang convertible and he was like, yeah. Yeah. Let me let me find the guys that I'll get back to you. crickets, crickets, crickets I don't think he'd like my number so they don't know what it was, but that was a bad car I probably don't need it probably shouldn't get it but. If, you want to do for the view of W I really would and to tell you the truth is like I don't know a supercharge Mustang with an automatic transmission sounds boring but now it's like it sounds so easy eco-driving. Thanks so easy every day and now kind of like, I don't really need it. I probably shouldn't get it but if he called and said, yes, I do it. I would. Second, I would do the deal. 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Speaking of this week, t-rex. T-REX coming soon right. When's the announcement seventeenth seventeenth seventeenth the the Ram trx, which is arguably the raptor competitor. I'm assuming we're all assuming some sort of how cat engine in it you know. I think which is the way listen. If they drop seven seven horsepower into that truck. I don't see how the next raptor isn't v Eight supercharged it has to be. They stay along their course. They hasn't had a certain mode of Operandi the whole time, right? Yeah. We'll see how they how they respond. Yeah. Like. If they do that at least it makes it up the Gen one raptor would be naturally aspirated v Eight, and then we go to twin turbo six and then to supercharge va I, love the I like the idea of the competitiveness of that I, can't wait to have allaster weaver in the studio going Oh yeah, we took a trx at a new V, eight supercharge raptor out and put his head to head and have them goes. We've been waiting at wait for that for ten years. So let's Bring this thing out if it if it makes us forget about it not coming out as abrupt. All right. Well, in the meantime that's from that's for my. I've been begging for this damn thing for. Chuck exciting. What do you got seven of them on order? Just one. Of We mentioned that Tarango we were talking about the. Hell cat. I believe it's coming in at seven, hundred, ten horsepower and the drank. Oh but now we have some pricing information. It's going to be eighty, one thousand dollars in space and. And then from there. Interesting. From from there. So if you got an all wheel drive s RT model. The difference between that and the hell cat is eight eighteen grant. That's what you're paying for all the little up not just the suspension whatever the break engine suspension, the brakes, interior treatments, and all that stuff that you can. You can get for it. You can option it up with a few things that Outta. You don't necessarily need. You can get DVD players for the back. You can get a red upholstery upgrades sunroof trailer tow package. The racing stripes which I told him really like it with racing stripes I. think it just looked better. All one color. You can get all season tires if you want. And you can get up to about ninety five grand fully loaded, which I think puts you right around that track. Hawk. The Jeep Track Hawk territory maybe the Track Hawk and knock on the door. You know one hundred thousand. But. Anyway. That's that's right. You you. You want five people you gotTa Track Hockey Seven people you gotTa Tarango or maybe you just like the look of one over the other. Who knows but anyway, just wanted to give you guys that pricing information. Do we have any idea bill on the pricing of the trx do we have sort of ballpark over this is going to be we don't know. Now I mean we can guesstimate. We can gas I mean if you're in Raptor Ranger in the sixty to seventy range, I guess summer of sixty five grand maybe it's gonNA premium with the big engine. That unless you get it fully loaded but I think they're gonNA. Be. Very competitive pricing well. We if it's If it's any comparison we're saying eighty-one grand is the starting price eighty, thousand, nine, hundred five is a starting price of the Durango. So. I don't see being up there. Yeah. I. Think it's GonNa come in a less I can't. I don't know if it's GonNa have six in front of it but I think will have a seven you know could be seventy one thousand could be seventy, seven, thousand, I just you know I don't see it having A. See in having I'm sure you could get it with todate. He. Yeah I think the face price is going to be a little less than that All right. So let's let's go ahead and wrap things up. I'M GONNA put a little more seat time on on the lightning and keep you guys a little bit more feedback. I'll post some pictures up on. On social media as well. The guys at Galvin gave me a call while I was sitting here. So now concerned because I was like I literally going into the studio right now. To talk about going to come back and be like that it's not your truck took the wrong lightning. Who knows what a or he's going to be like you forgot to pay your bill on the way out so Anyway, we'll we'll get into that more next week. Later, this week on car cast Adams coming into the studio we're going to give you give you guys a recap of the Laguna Seca weekend driver appreciation day bringing the different drummer five ten up there shaking down it was a lot of fun great group re ran into a few small issues, but it ended up working out well so we'll get into all of that. Next week looking at the sun out there man it's bright. babysitting Bob Oh bob the tiny bird. Yeah I see. 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Ep. 205: David Hoots

NASCAR on NBC

59:12 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 205: David Hoots

"With the NFL playoffs. Just around. The corner now is the time to subscribe to Rutta World Football podcast every Monday morning. Recap every game from the weekend. Tuesday help you on waiver pickups cups then go to game and Matra previews on Thursday and Friday so download the railroad football podcast right now. Hi It's neat so just some background on. This episode was taped on October. Twenty twenty four th two thousand nineteen. That was the Thursday before Martinsville speedway race weekend for the most part. It's not that dated but we do make a few references. A two at what point in the season were at so. Just keep that in. Mind as you're listening and then the second thing is this was taped at the world famous big Oak Table at our NBC Sports Charlotte Office which is adjacent to try on Street in Charlotte and the windows that face that street or directly above the big Oak table and so there's a lot of ambient noise that can be heard throughout the taping. Tryon street can be quite a busy thoroughfare in late afternoon afternoon early evening. which is the timeframe for this episode being taped we did pick up quite a bit of ambient noise at times? So hopefully that wasn't too distracting from this conversation. which happens to be with someone who actually made quite a name for himself by constantly talking over the dean of race cars at two hundred miles an in our so nevertheless enjoy a welcome to the NASCAR? ABC podcast. I'm your host Nate Ryan here at our NBC Sports Charlotte Studios we just wrapped up NASCAR SCAR American motor mouths and one of our guests. Today was David Hoots. Who is a legend in the NASCAR? Officiating World David. David thanks for being here me alleged to be this is the second time you've been on Nascar America and wanted to have you on the podcast as well to talk a little about what you're doing now you called your last aspiration Nascar the twenty thousand nine Daytona five hundred since then. I know you've been doing a lot of work. On the sides business of your own working potentially doing some consulting with race teams on her. You're also working with some rule books and some series. Tell us about what you're doing now. Well the one project started completely one working on others working working with series and taking a different set of eyes in reading the rules. It's interesting that sometimes it's it's like you can't see the forest for the trees and when you read it if you read their rulebook and you'd read it literally than you would read it grammatically and I'm not a grammatical expert by no means but is this what you're really trying to say. And then apply your knowledge and experience with high I race is operated or officiated and try to clean it up and then at the same time. Take your experience. And look for the LUPO was competitor's would look for so you would go through it and read it that way two or three times then you make recommendations and then at that point I let the series decide add. Is this the direction they wanna go or is it a direction over here. They won't go and again. It's just take another set. Is that As you're I'm reading it you really don't know what their whole direction or hurt. Their you know their goal is to run a race but how they're wanting to run the race and is it explained because it's the single source of information that everything that's done around race is evolving around so trying take it and apply that experience to it and is this really what you're wanting to say and it's the best is the best way to say it or have you experienced searched for saying another way may be better and you offer that suggestion then you go through it and and work on it and try to try to consolidate I. I think one of the things that I've learned over time. People have a tendency to over explain. And sometimes it's just a lot more clear and crisper with less words not take them down past that they don't want to let them understand. What do you so trying to plow that and put it together in a package? Remember that okay. This is what you're saying over here and five pages next. You're contradicting yourself. So let's clear up. We want to just where do we want to do it this way. So there's continuity through do it hallway where do you think in terms of rulebook language that auto racing series get themselves in the most trouble with too many words or having confusing contradictory language. Sometimes sometimes just in the style of the writing it needs to be written. I would say take out the legalese. There's words some people use. They're very descriptive but they don't have to be where you need to open up a dictionary and review what the word means a better word is it is a simple not saying anybody. That's out there that's reading it. It's it's is simple minded but the rule book may have to be applied and certain areas in the back garage of a lower series at eleven o'clock at night the inspector or the official doesn't need to have to try to explain what it made. Its it needs to be simple enough that the competitor can understand what the rule is instead of a bunch of garbage. How many series have you been working with? I've I've been working on this the way the second one I've reached out to some different groups to see if they're interested some series is haven't wound up the season. Some seasons are some series half and she don't know when that when their season ends up what's their Tamla Hamlin. Is it a printed book as own line book. If it's a printed book you have to have a bigger lead and it may be by the time. I reached out to him this year. They've already started process signatures rulebook. Well there's always opportunity next year or read it in the start of the season. Sit there and say. Have you thought about this this and this us and if you can't it's not try to say this is right or wrong have you considered Diaz and is better way to say. Are you concerned. Mostly David with just last race procedures in the technical side of the cars and how they're I'm far far more experienced with the race procedure. Right over the the years I started out as an inspector and worked my way up and as you work your way up the short tracks you had to know the inspection part part of it but as you were migrating over to the management of the race you started learning more and more on the procedure side and have watched over over the years in my career at at Nascar for forty six years. How that has evolved? It was. We found a copy of one of the I wrote. It was four pages and the race procedure was probably less than that it. It it describe just the flag rules because the flag rules is back in when racing I started was the only communications that the officials to the competitor. Right have radios half caution lights. You just sit there and the flag was telling the driver what he could do what he couldn't do and it's above and as as the race has involved. The rules have had to expand Dan sometimes One of the things that I I mean experiencing now is that you feel like it's being over officiated with all these little rules. Aw that are put into it and it shouldn't be the competitor doesn't understand and then there's miss applications or they think this is the rule or or this or this is the way the rule is applied at dish track. And not here. So there's this element of confusion in there. I don't think anybody intends to do but it migrates out to the garage in in that In that way you need to try to clean that up on one of the easiest ways is to simplify the rules. The other the thing like in the short track world. The Rue may be addressed in the driver's meat and never addressed in the written word so when the new competitor shows up is he aware of all the rules that are in place and the likelihood is no no. He's not if you can put it out in a simple form in some type of documented deal you know we're we're going away from paper and online stuff and be able to read review it it and its simplified. It'll make it a lot better for the for the competitor and it also makes it a lot more fun for the for the spectator Taylor who as you elevate your way up there you'll see more rules and more rules and more rules and it's because the rules have been written due to situations. Aw and trying to go down that path in in lower series is probably not the wisest things you're writing a rule and you're trying to explain it for one and a five hundred opportunity for to happen short tracks very many very few of race live under a yellow flag. They don't have live pitstops so you don't have to have all the the mechanics that that NASCAR employees on pitstops ops pit road procedures and whatever Just layer upon layer of complexity element. Does that help the race. Now in in those NASCAR NASCAR series. It's important because it's protecting one competitor from taking advantage of another but it seems like also as you as you though Oh the yellow and you pack the competitors up. There's as much competition right there because the race never stops and that's one of the things that's unique about race. It doesn't have a stop it just slows down onto the caution but everybody still advancing to the end goal. which is you're finished position and still can gain and lose so so it's a totally different animal? The any of the type of competition baseball. You have a natural stoppage football basketball and other the other other kind of thing that unique about race is that there's forty competitors or the starting in racing against each other. Were all other sports for the most part is one team against another team or one competitor against another competitor evening football because he had the offense the defense. It's still one on one it's is not multiples against multiples in and then the other part of it is most Stick and ball sports. The field old are the playing field is the same. It doesn't change every week you can you can have. You can have a muddy field or you can have a dry field or a fast west Enfield or a slow infield but both are week-to-week as the different tours go to different tracks. They present challenges with which a lot. The town for address ballrooms. Yeah I think that gets missed a lot. I mean obviously baseball stadiums. That dimensions are different. In terms of how far the walls general shape is the same whereas you can go to amount half track or short-track of course everything is different ended. It all plays into it because in not just the outside of outside sidewalls in the outfield but the foul territory on both sides. It's some places. The catcher takes two steps and he's terminent tumbled over a fence and the next thing I think he's got a forty acre field to catch a fly ball so it's those things they're important and they're addressing ground rule meetings with the referees threes in the managers but erase. This is moving week to week to week. Different different venues. The rules that you race under at Talladega are completely different. Almost complete either. But I'm not allowed borough political tomorrow or vice versa and the car's not the same so there's no yellow line rule as we speak here the race this weekend at margin no yellow thankfully so you hit on something that I think is interesting David in the amount of rules that especially like the major league erasing series have and I feel like this is a discussion. It's come up more and more last few years where you hear it from not just cup but indy-car f. one. They're developing hoping lots of rules to govern how these races are officiated is somewhat of a byproduct of as you go up the ladder. Two major league racing series that you're going to have have more sophistication better teams and they're just going to be better at sort of finding loopholes and finding ways that you need to develop rules to like keep them in a certain box Fox that is legitimate for competitive integrity. I think it is definitely a by product of it If you go back into the early nineties the clothes into the pit road established it was done. Just be able to manage the race. Put the caution car in the fright position in front. The leader that was that was the reason for the by product of it was though all of a sudden it allowed a lap for the cars to catch up and get nose to tail L. to come on pit road and beforehand. It hadn't been it hasn't been that way because you could turn down bit road. At any point. There was a risk versus reward. If if you could pit early get back out and have to wait for it to secrets through. You could gain track physician when you close the pit road. The BIPARTI was is that you shifted the ability not to gain spots a lot easier pit road by the speed of the crew the second compounding factor was when you had a major accident and a fatality on pit road you had incorporate more rules. You had to hidden box because at that time you had a way to manage the speed. We it was it was it was a manual calculation with a stop watch but it wasn't very active so the rule was you had to pit within the box that ruled still there. It was to make the driver half the car under control. We pulled into the box. There was. There's there's been games ship on pit road from the first time he ever came on. Compare where you would leave a tire or were you leave the Jack Everyone. Precipitated created another room that somebody had to manage NASCAR's S. Kars gone through this evolution this year of the control tower that uncontrolled tires been there for years and trying to manage it in a black black and white illustration is. Har- it it. It's it's still has subjective nature to it but I think right now it is as it's managed as well as it can be but it's not black and white and it never will be black and white you have to to me. You have to let the referees have some discretion on on how they're calling it when I when I started working my way up. I felt like every rule. I'll be blacula ever rule ought to be black and white and now I would sit there and say no. It's it's it can't be black and white you've got to trust the people that you put in charge and give them the authority to make judgement calls and they will second guess themselves to the cows come home they they they they wanna be right but if you if you took the famous survey forty nine and a half percent say they're right forty nine and a half percent so the so the official is working at one percent opportunity. He's sitting there on the fence. He's he's kind of damned if he doing. He's damned if he doesn't but he's got to make a call and let's live with it and move on and a lot of times. The Court of public opinion is more to you. Hurt my favorite driver. But you didn't help my favorite and as you're as you're going through the penalty process process. You can't turn your back on a penalty and in the calls if a a violations there and you don't call your penalizing the rest better if there's a pounding you call it you penalize the guy that created the violation. Somebody's GonNa win and somebody's going to lose. So you're better off Colin all your violations. The point being is that there's no way you're GONNA get consensus of opinion every time it's just not there and and you can look at something you can look at the visual optics Thank you go back to New Hampshire this year where it didn't look like when in Forget the car that came on up but it was right to the rule but the optics for term but the rule had been adjusted a couple years prior people. Watch that illustrates great. Well this was the rule five or six years ago. Well that's wrong but it was what it was five or six years ago. Now it's this is what the rules so have it in way that is simplified in numbers that you don't have as many rules as you have and other things make them as crystal-clear hen is is is to officiate as you can Talladega with its position at the start. Finish line is a good place to try to apply room and see if it works. Because the way you're counting the lap to the start finish line. It really challenge a time penalty or lap penalty. Because you're before you get there so the thing you just mentioned about new Hampshire that was Eric Jones had pitted and the controversy around it. Even the team wasn't sure if he was going to get penalized because essentially like it was one of those this he had faked going in and the commitment line rule had changed years. And there's been a lot of instances like that over the last ten or fifteen services over the years and night. That's one of the reasons. I think there's opportunity there to help the race. Teams go through these rules. And and and even though the the rules are put in the rule book and they're highlighted or what's changed if you don't go back and read the rule or for the way to help your memory if you've got some kind of story to go with it it'll it'll ingrained in your mind to how the rule works if it's well this is what the rule lose it. You don't take it as her and and having watched a lot of these rules being developed over years and how it happened in knowing the back story when you share that that makes perfect sense. While you're doing tally. So if you can if you can explain the rule and apply the methodology behind minded. You can help the team and it's to me the the way. The teams are in the competition. One saved violation during the race race because each positions could be forty forty points. I did a analytical study of last year's violations the championship organization had twenty two violations which is over thirty six races in in three cars is. There's really nothing this lagaras number twenty two. I say orders H I did it by pentecostal work and they you know so joy one but used a used that is as the the difference. I looked at another team that has championship contenders this here. That had seventy eight seventy eight times at an average of thirty. How many more passes did they make to have to get to those points with some of do you can't? You can't educate him to stay out of the penalty pitting early if you have a damaged vehicle and you're coming with the flat tax stuff like I. I can't eating. He gets extent speeding. Speeding is one that if somebody was educating the driver I think and a manner you would educate them wins. Is it time to apply at risk to try to gain rewards right and when is it not because tells the worst you WanNa do probably is to positions but if you lose you're GONNA go back fifteen or twenty whatever's in the lead lap so educate them adjusting the digital readouts to give them a little bit more and then the other part of some people you just can't help they'll get caught up in it but those kinds of penalties. You're going to encourage them. I can't teach you other ones. You can avoid them or you can. You can sit there and begins to manage them better. Go back to Atlanta this year when the caution came out during the round greenbacks. Let's use llegado getting if he realizes that the wheels was loose he could have came in owned the next yellow in in lined up one position behind but his goal was to restart on the outside. Because it's such an advantage vantage at Atlanta on the inside row. That was the goal that was the focus. Anita get out. I'M GONNA lineup restart on the front on the outside. I'm I'm Dr Love and you will. But he could he have come back. Gave two positions. How many points did you just gain? He might not have won the race. But how many points we have gained and other than taking the unscheduled pit stop later the same token with a withdrew his car. He's own pit road could he have drove through came out and bid at the end the laugh instead of getting our lap down and having sort of the back. You don't know it. But at that point if if the spotter his educated and skilled and the crew chief has entrusted him to be able to make that split second call or crew chief because true chief. A few is therapy their tear you. Hey you you make oh from finishing tint to steal an erase all above board but you have have to know how it's all applied the the other part of you. I think I can help as you walk through the mechanics of how things are done. Why does it take so along for this cost kilo? This information is being fade into whether it's coming in from the attorney spotter coming into the fire truck and it's being relate aid to the emergency services director and he's telling the race director. There's something over there or the TV camera pans or you actually see you. Don't the time lapse from when it's d'oeuvres to get it to the person that's making this person or persons is reconciliation. It doesn't matter. Yeah so this is what you've been doing this this research and offering to console teams and help them like that. That's advocating the watts. Who Will Book and again I? I'm glad you brought this New Hampshire example. Because I did. I talked to Eric Jones chief. Chris Gayle that day about it. And you know you talk about that difference between Kim. The positions make a difference. I mean he finished third that day And what happened. There was NASCAR had changed the rule. Where in the past they can have to tyrus below and they had to pit? Where and and NASCAR? I changed the rule where only drivers with four tires below the line had to enter the pits so Jones had gone over the box with his left side tires below and the the team and him both the thought he'd screwed up and then realized no we hadn't so he ends up finishing third. I put him in a really good points position down. The stretch helped him win at Darlington. Make the playoffs and all because has or in this case they didn't really know the rules probably situations like that you're talking about that can make a big difference. It make a big difference. The second thing is played at laugh. Laugh out now. They're not sure so. You have stopped. The thought process owned the pit box. Do I pit or do not it. Okay I'll wait another lap and three more hit that are in the lead lap now. We'll start back even further because the race hasn't stopped. The concept also. Goes along the same lines if you watch major league teams in baseball football. I'm sure somebody's paying somebody to come in and explain it in. Welcome through the rules. Whether it's the league whether it's Major League Baseball I note occurs in college football. Especially in the in the scrimmage games that the referees will come in and talk to them this this room is different. This is how we've all agreed that we're going to call holding or or whatever. The penalty is We we won't go down pass. Interference S. seems to be a whole nother different topic but again the player and the coach understanding. It helps because they're making real split real time decisions visions based on that. There may be that that outlaw rule that quirky rule some kind of kickoff for punt on the kickoff that you if you did this you got a free kick or what I mean the free kick rules in football. I haven't kept up football but if you do this you can kick a field goal. I not recently it was the panthers. Yes yes they didn't know it was some sort of situation. Where the punter something and Ron Rivera new? Hey I can have my guy attempt a field goal from this spot spot with just a freak. Basically that's three points that may that's the winter the the difference of winning losing knowing those roofs this. This is what I have been working on. This is what I'm continue work on with the goal hopefully to have it up completely running and being able to communicate with the teams before next season and see if there's any interest in if if they feel like they have a good handle on it fine. I got a feeling though. They won't have the the knowledge of the experience overcome because it seems like it's a younger group coming in. There's a bunch of very smart engineers making decisions they can analyze. I analyse stuff but if they haven't seen it to ingrain in again they're looking at a bunch of computer monitors and they go back on Monday mornings and I'll go back so your days at Nascar you'd be called on your vk. Can you help me through how this happened. We're looking at our data and sometimes the data data is correct but they're applying the wrong application of what it's telling them and they're seeing can you. Can you explain it to me so I think there's a big benefit there I would. I would go. Safar say they would probably be race directors at lower levels. That could help them. Instead of. This is the rue aw hey you understand but the understand. What's behind the room while it's done so it's it's like let's take it a level deeper and see what you can do? All that context helps. So you're very much. It sounds like an early days in this process so cup teams expanded teams truck teams any team. That would wanNA help any team. How also looked not like lower levels with? I don't know I don't offend anybody but let let's say there. Some series is that have rental cars ours and they get the sponsoring father or family or company to come in and rent the car for the weekend. Are they going to try to invest all. They can't into helping that driver his best finish or they sitting there saying uh. Let's hope that vehicle is put back on the trailer and we don't have more work to do and my guess is they're not giving him the absolute. Aw best consultation they can. I don't think it's done deliberately. But that would be there in here. Here's Joe crew chief. This is the first time I've seen San Antonio showed up to shop and we were fitting for the seat and let's get all of it. He's he's mechanically worried about it but the finish physician is really engaged now. The the next level's up. I think it's no question. They're trying to have the best finished but too often kind of see that in in the in the back half so we talked about the the number of rules and that being I think a hot topic often throughout seasons now. Is there anything that could be done. Do you think less than the rules rules. BE AT NASCAR INDYCAR. Any I mean. Is there any guiding principle that you can see that maybe if they were to overhaul a rulebook like here's what you you should do to to strike out some you. Can you can suggest some things but again you gotta think the sanctioning body has to take a look at. What's their angle and eh they don't feel this change is beneficial? They will leave it as I'm sure that over the years I've suggested things to NASS CAR DR. That hadn't been implemented. I think my personal opinion it would it would make it would improve the product. But it's not my decision. My input is. Here's here's my suggestion. You can take a look at it and at the end of the day. You're managing it. I'm just trying to give you advice Pinon Roebuck. You said you found that was four pages without have been the forties or fifties. I WANNA say it was the fifties early fifties early fifties and it was uh very simple very simple. It didn't have no black. Flag would wipe crawls it didn't have anything about stages ages or or freezing the field or are these things it was it was go. Brain turn left comeback which which at the end of the day is what race should really be about two two or three people competing and trying to pass each other again. You've you've got all these parameters unders you're dealing with and all these different stakeholders in the things it affects. Does it help you to go back. And look you said when you sit down with these teams and show them. Here's why this through existing here's what the actual context when you look back. Historically does it help to see how things evolve I mean. Do you ever go back. And look at rule. Books not just fifties or whatever other decades isn't say let's let's figure out the the progression of why we're doing it this way officiating. I've got a collection of all the printed ruled that I had over the years because it was part of of Your membership yeah which takes me back to seventy three and it went from a little it would fit in your back pocket but it would barely hanging out to fit in your back pocket. It was about three eighths inch thick. It half of it would fit in your back pocket and hang out and it went from a handful of pages and it just kept growing but To the defense what's going on. Everything kept getting more sophisticated and had to be detailed in greater detail. I think one of the things that that NASCAR'S NASCAR's doing now You're you're still having to write a written ru. But the USA cad drawings has has evolved I just I think back though of the of the day of the mechanic and some of them were extremely smart. I don't know that smoking unique was given even enough credit because a lot of his information was reading airplane research stuff and applying those kinds of scope so did smoke Heaven Engineering Krino but he was smart enough to read it. Then you look at the next guy and I can't name comes to mind but I do know that there was mechanics antics. That could not read and write but if you sit there and said hey nate what branch dot org if you rest what range dining go over and get a nine sixteenths boxy Dan and and get this and you can take that apart or he would lay up under the car at night and this is where the innovation has been lost and figure out bump steer angles and geometry that he named know what geometry meant he just knew what these two tires for doing and what they were doing when they turn turned in how could he do. It could take. It overheated up bended and repositioning make it work and did it last that innovation I think is somewhat lost. It's even more so now because nobody's taking a part that was from a stock car. It's all specialized part so that innovations gone. I don't know the engineers sitting there doing the same thing the way he's doing he's doing cadrone. These tournament printing them in a plastic. Three D. Printer looking at it so he can touch and feel it but it's not the same and then with that same thought you lost all these characters that racing the head if you if you went back and look at the great engine. Builders there was there was twenty out and now it's three companies three or four companies. Aw and you use a reporter you go talk to this guy or you. You would talk to Dale Senior. Spanish built this great engine down here in the shop name name. He leads by whatever they need here. Robert Gates had been over here grand in for three days up in Kenya shop when he was up there. And it's it's like yeah. All that's goal. Well Yeah so you've lost these characters or somebody out to sit down and record everything that Leonard would ever says. I mean that is that is a Bible eight Z. A.. Hey you got from here to here. There's all this tribal knowledge there that needs to be like you said like smokey scenic didn't have computer animated drawings but he had his own versions of laptops in engineering simulation. It's like you said it was but he could have been on a dirt four four. Yeah or or in Leonard's case what what is it Is it a birch tree the birch tree out in the yard that still there that they were they would work onto the car or you or oh you would remember back when it was a straight axle you would heat the acts love Hook it to a chain and try to bend the axle. It's just as crude is whatever but that's the way it was has done back in the day you look back and I grew up a Glenwood Fan. They were smart enough that they moved the seat back for the white transfer Glenn was never a large man. He was probably one hundred and forty pounds dripping wet but they knew that if they put the weight on the left rear tire that was the drive tire coming off turn it was straight. Asa Car of the cargo through the the Left Front would lift and it would never touch the surface going around the turn so the right front was doing all the work but it was. It was all school or the woods for were very instrumental. Understanding Tire Stagger with with Pearson and that heyday. And it's a simple. It'll take a styrofoam pop and watch what it does when it rolls knowing that succumbs now you're measuring you're you're not missing sconces much year. The spring rates of the sidewalls with a with a tenth of pounds of pressure is does that make for good. Yeah it makes for good racing. But it's it's so how is there any way to recapture sure that innovation that you're talking about as NASCAR's obviously is moving toward a more SPEC type series with this next Gen car. Is there a way to keep some stuff. You're talking doc. You would hope so. But what they'll say. And how do you unring a bail or take a bite provided backing. You can't untrainable the direction that it looks like. They're hidden. I think in one hand. You don't want more inspection but as you bring it closer and closer together to keep the playing plainfield. Even you're GONNA have to have it because you have forty NASCAR inspectors. Helms say competing is not the weren't trying to work but they're trying to keep corralled two hundred engineers. Bright in each engineer has twenty five crew members always outnumbered always outnumbered number two. They're totally outnumbered. It's it's it's like probably the Pinski group with their engineering and probably Stewart Haas. They have a large injury. Sources of engineers and even more so in Stewart Haas with the F.. One on at the engineer. Find something here on the F one car and he's in charge wheels somehow or another. It's going to go over to the cubicle to the next engineer or vice versa. or He's he's just totally focusing on wheels or gidgets religious. So that evolutions go to come when you're when you're measuring something to thousands back in the day when when coach Les Richter had me go do Iraq races i. I went to Michigan one day and it's drizzling. Not Walking around the garage. They're looking at the first time I'd been at Indycar race. They had a platform with a domino effect. And it had rifle cases with micrometres in. Mike's meason the the frame rail heights and this is not a good sign. I was still used to watching the guy pulled out a tape. Measure and a little thin tape and do the circumference of the tires and and the white for probably calculated feed meal scales and now everybody's got these platforms. They do this and their Mike prompter net and yes. They're taking it to them to the NANU inch his. It really improved probably. Yeah Yeah. That's that's a big question. I think a lot of people have to ask. I think there's some of them a lot of people scratching generic about it so you spent thirty one years in the Tower David Thirty Years in the tower eighty eight to nineteen. Yeah Yeah thirty. Yeah Yeah So. How involved were you on the rule side? Obviously everybody knows your voice on the radio and how familiar you were there the word of God when Cam to educating the flow of the races but the rulebook side. Maybe we didn't know about that as much what were you involved with as they may changes procedures intimately with everything they did there. Why tailed asked me to join Nascar? fulltime and I was still driving the ups truck and I needed to get to a certain couple of certain plateaus as far as the benefits retirement stuff but being at ups for twenty some twenty seven years ahead of Breath Bank of days off and as we started adding rules we would start scaling working on everybody. That's it's using the computer now knows the term of cut and paste. We were there with mimeographed sheets back in the day. Cutting out two lines off off one and pasted it in there because you had the now xfinity series and now monster energy were being written by two different directors. The end result was that you probably got there. It was hat was saying you didn't get there so it's like you're reading to different rules now. The end result and so we started working on consolidating. That and simple finding so. If you're saying it over here against again for the continuity for everybody we started work on. This was back in the early nineties that we would schedule a couple of days as and you'd go down to Daytona all site somewhere and work on and we would get locked in in a room And work on on the roofs and it was sticky notes tape paste before you had computers. A vivid memory of the rule book meeting was we were in Richmond but the rich and raise when the nine eleven tragedy happened and one of the girls from the office called me. Are you watching the TV. No what's happening. A plane just crashed in the World Trade Center so we stopped taking breaks. What's going on the next one? Crashes but we were there we worked on it the next day and then some some of them left and went back to Daytona. We stayed extra and said okay. We're going to. We're going to drive breath by this time. They've grounded all therefore we're going to try to New Hampshire so group office right up We leave Richmond we get about to scranton spend the night scranton drive and get within our of New Hampshire racist been off so instead of having some of the dental sees that you have out of New Hampshire. I'm sure with the with the the lobsters. Whatever or sitting there eating lunch at the Wendy's turn around and drive back to Scranton at the same motel? We just checked Out about twelve hours ago then came on the Dick State but that evolved and they would be sessions that you sit there one of them. It was quite boring but you had to describe all the bars of the cage. A BAR B Bar. I mean this is a lot a fun and everyone of you'd have to you'd have to right. It's got a convex shape and it's made out. FCS Industry Standard Ninety Right Three forty-seven Bluetooth whatever whatever medal. And then you'd go to the next McCall's the bars were not named. And you were getting different pilot Salman mm-hmm and whatever to to standardize so some of them were were quite intense. Some of them redundant and painful. But you also could talk about things that would happen during the course you'd take your rulebook and you'd make a note. We need to work on this or we need to work on that. And then you you would work on it. Then you'd move forward in. Some major procedure would change Aka like racing back to the flag black. So we have the race again New Hampshire. We make the decision to go down the road of freezing the field were sitting there. John Darby that Adorn D. Center at a couple of others. Can we put this procedure together and Friday Eddie. We rolled it out at dove shooting from the hip to try to figure out all the nuances. Yup We do a pretty decent job until we get to Rockingham the next spring bring because we hadn't accounted enough for the pit rope. have some issues with that. We go back to the drawing board at work so we knew that anytime. You make these kind of changes. Amy's there would be at abolition. There would be some painful growth to try to get it right. It's pretty doggone close the next step would be toward calculations could be should be generated by. GPS and not back the better part of the of track. And I know that NASCAR is working. It would be the that would be the next steps. Something had happened back in some tracks quarter mile back and others. It's two one hundred fifty yards. If you have a real time freezing of the field where you know where every car is every moment of every lap then wade loops it would be a lot easier it it would be a lot and if you had that you would never had to institute to root of clothes in the pit wrote because you always knew the leader. Well yeah I mean so. It's there's nationalist analyst Eight Thousand Nine Hundred Twenty nine years down the road so it's it's an evolutionary process. I remember that that that meeting since September. Two thousand. Three the New Hampshire races where you guys made that decision and after Dale Jarrett was almost in a really unfortunate situation racing back to the yellow almost got hit. You guys made that decision. We're GONNA start praising in the field we're changing the way no more racing back to the caution remember Dover you guys had a meeting. Reporters weren't allowed but we stood back about one hundred feet and there must gone for like a half hour and I don't know probably two or three dozen questions drivers about it going. That was that when you look back on major decisions you were involved in in terms of rules changing aging in the way Nascar races were running that probably the biggest ones was changing. I would think that would have to be down because it has to be because it changed all the dynamic she. She went from something that was. It's very simple race back. It's it's not subjective too subjective system and then all all the off shoots of that again it magnifies. What's being done on? Pit Road at allows movement of safety equipment. Devolution of of the all the safety initiatives justice and those type things. It was funny in in that meeting. Brian France was in attendance drivers. Me and I had at work with Brian But I. I can't say that do the next day. I got a phone call. And he left me a voicemail telling me thanking me for doing a really good job because it it was. You're right it was about twenty five minutes of I won't say all the cuff questions but to be fair about it. Mike Helton John Darby. All of us were working working on we. We came up with all these questions that we had we brought in our scoring team for the y'all thing to try to get it all worked out no no really different then what we did. We went double file shootout restarts and worked on that. We figured out what we wanted to do. I think as much which is a bigger project here in Mason Cup. Who handles our training had to put it up and making movable powerpoint to illustrated and what she had to do sit down? Sit and everything and I'm still not sure that it was. It was painful week the we had like a week to put together. Because we'RE GONNA show this ad hoc had another meeting I think Saturday Morning Post. Here's what we're getting ready to. You'll see the same thing. Yep Right now it's kind kinda it's it's not a double throwdown closed-door meeting but ask questions and here's the illustration but the illustration and we'll tell you more than trying to have a long own brown out explanation of what what you're doing and to this day. The rule book says this is the order that you line up. It doesn't tell you the nuances of it because you can't explain you get here and you get there so the only way to do is a workshop. And that's that's amazing. Because he had double file Restarts Institute in two thousand nine and and goes against basically what NASCAR was founded in nineteen forty eight. So you're talking about sixty years of history and racing back to precaution two thousand three fifty five years of love. This is the way it's been done. In both those instances you're basically changing five or six decades of way competitors are used to and it's like we had the support of the whole Daytona team in the team working on both projects. We're going down a path that pretty dramatic. Yeah Antillean precedent and and at the same time. We quit freezing the field. We had no technology to help us know technology to help us. We we brought in so we changed I don't remember the order but four or five races later. We're going to tell you so we come up with this plan that we're going to bring in extra help. We're going position them around the race tracking the idea. was that the help around the race track would line score the segment that they see in. which in theory makes all the sense in the world? A say up that at Talladega while you're three wide fifteen sixteen and there's no human can do this. It's all you can do to take the video camera. Yeah so everybody's got an assignment to do what in on the second channel they were to college polity and and Mr Hilton volunteers to be the one cool eight data. I don't remember if the pencil went across the room or whatever he comes up sometimes dirty racist money you get down and you figure out what we got to get to get So no expense. I'm not doing this. We knew it wouldn't work. You could I won't say you could bluff love your way through it but you had a pretty good idea on some tracks but not there we kind of move forward. We have a wreck. We have a big on the back straightaway and I don't remember if it was Elliott Sadler or Dale Jarrett that we flipped the car on the back elmo Langley. Driving to college and car we blown back racetrack racetrack. We've cleaned it all up. We're still with about ten to go trying to get the order right. We're looking at video and what we got. And let's just like we're pushing pushing rock up a flat rock and also we'll track elmo. I think we need to blow it one more time. I just do the the figure out how to try to get is now is good as all you can do is go down and tells a competitive. This is what we're doing. Yeah nobody nobody sit there and said you know and and they understood. They understood exactly what we're getting up to or and in two years later we put a pit road speeding and that was another project that we had to go out and install the equipment. We had a good team. That did it and we get there. Were announced or go ahead. We're going to monitor pit road speed and remember Martin saying this and the clash drivers me or we're going to practice it today. He said. Can we reconsider this. I don't know this I said Mark Sometime. y'All need to be careful what you wish for because you might get you got this. Because he hit you know he had figured out. This is not going to be India. It'll be good in the long run but in short haul it's going to be hard so I'm okay with stop watches. Yeah so I got one more freedom as we sit here. Four races left in the twenty thousand season. What's it been like for you watching NASCAR in a different way of and you had the past thirty one years I still find myself? Officiating appreciating and I still find myself because of the of the other projects that I'm working on trump stay in Kern on the rules and I may notice things that maybe the General Fan Dutton. It's not because I'm any smarter but I knew how going to officiate. It or what I was looking for when I was officiate. So you'd see something happened or you knew that this didn't happen in the right sequence. I don't know that I necessarily missed the travel. I do miss the relationships I had with a bunch of people racetracks. Some of them. I have worked with more than forty years. Clay Campbell comes the mind since we're going to march for this weekend. One of the things I did up there in the first couple of years that I worked up there I worked in the PR department and his granddaddy Clay Earles Haddish. Unique way of teaching him he would sit down and say I want you to draft on this person which meant he followed you all all five days to see what you were doing and I think that's one of the biggest things that helps clay with his understanding a promotion operation of a race track. What the fans won't mournful is is is a historical racetrack trek? People don't think about it. was there the first year. How many racetracks can you name quickly? That have been running since the forties Indianapolis Annapolis Motor speedway. If they're still racing at the Milwaukee Mile there's there's just a short list is very shortly and with the way the growth has came over the years for it to remain and be there and be really one of the jewels because a lot of times. It's one of the best races of the year and be able to modernize something. That's that's got a lot of space. Have Garages or the Garages Fancy. No they're they're not as fancy as some of these new venues but but they're very functional and you're putting you're putting the four forty dollars the fans don't have you obstruction. which was one of the things that Mr earls would fight against? He'd he wanted his fans if they were sitting on the bottom of to see across that racetrack because they were there to see the whole thing. And that's that's the beauty one of the beauties of a short track race. You you can see everything walking out this spring from March. I left early. I'm go to stop right here. I'M GONNA stand in term one. Aw I watched the fans and they were having just absolute who similar to what you'd see in some video clips that was put in from Bowman gray they were having a ball. That's what we're here for the entertain those folks and to have a good race and when you you see that double file restart coming taking the green. And they're driving off in term one it's something to behold it now. Same thing can be said if you're sitting in the trial of Daytona Daytona watching him. Come over the ashes and watched it at. We'll kick up. It's still enjoyed and I will. I don't have. I miss some of the things that I did. That was I look at it this way. That was my golf golf game on Sunday and it wasn't work Monday. Through Saturday was work some of was tedious. Some of it was painful. Staring at roll gauges that was working charitable caters right and rules. That was work. Yeah but the word got me to be able to do this other thing that I enjoyed and I enjoyed it because I worked at that craft to pride to be as good as I can be. I wasn't perfect. And there's there's a lot of help in that position because one person can't he's no way you can see it all but he's taking information from five and six sources and he's trying to process process it and push it out just as quick as you can take an extra lap takes away from the fan. It may take away. The ability of the competitor to use a new set of Tires Aka Eric Amarillo at at at the road course as whatever taking so long to that long but he lost about two laps his tires for losing the good and other guys tired for probably getting rid the bad and then when it was time to go all of a sudden he loves seventeen terms that he made. It could advance them now. Now you can say that one race didn't cost him and it's it's the body of work is the body of work and steal a racer doesn't think of it that way and did you call me this and that was i. It's nobody's intention. They ever has directed or officiated rates never to cost anybody but the the percentages were against you at some point. You're not going to be perfect and you weren't but never job. I never never never thought I just wanted voted to try not to make the same mistake and be humble about it. If I'll tell you I made mistake and go out and try to fix it. There's there's some mistakes that are made in a race that you cannot equitably correct you can try to correct but you can't it back perfectly and you have to accept it but then you won't take that don't don't discount it. Try they improve on it so you don't make the same mistake voice. Are you going to work with NASCAR. And I don't think I'd chance the series you're working with now are. Are they lower their little. Okay Laura Okay any chance that you would work with the series we've heard of in the future or I'm open for anything. I'm sitting in over the summer. I went through a list of things that I needed to catch up around the house else and now all those are done. We're we're getting pretty close to the wind. Storm came through the night. And there's two more trees to get cut up. Okay I'm getting there ear and the Nice thing is it's not anything that you know. I'm not getting the pressure from my wife to do them. These are things that that I wanted to get done. So there's there's time available. Hopefully we can find avenues to only eat. I won't continue to use my knowledge and whether it's helping helping the broadcast because I think sometimes like Sunday's race at Kansas. The guys respond on their explanation. Now there's other times that I think it could help them. If you pointed out something that they didn't recognize not not to call anybody out or say somebody made a mistake but it everything about race is cause and effect and and if this doesn't go right this is affecting this this is affecting that or whatever. There's an opportunity there. I don't necessarily care about traveling again. It's went somewhere this summer and did some work at a racetrack on the airplane. Sit there it was four good flights four good flight. What am I doing? Initially I did miss that at all. Well I'm certainly glad to hear you are up for sharing your knowledge because we'd like to keep seeing at the racetrack can we. We love to have you on the show here today and appreciate you spend so much time sitting down on Antonio these stories David and I could probably tell you a few. Yeah all right well. Maybe we'll do it again sometime all right all right. Thanks thank you are. Thanks again to David suits for all of his insight and time after thirty one years of virtually running the show in the NASCAR scoring tower. The man has a lot of stories. We we appreciate that. He shared some of them with us and also interesting to hear about his post NASCAR career in consulting with ray series and teams on how to write and interpret rulebook language. As you heard David who is a fount of knowledge when it comes to race procedures so he has a lot to offer on those fronts. I I hope. Continue to see him involved in the industry and if so I hope he comes back to join us against some time on the NASCAR ON NBC. podcast tell us more of those stories so speaking of the podcast think of this episode as my off season end of the year holiday gift. I don't know when we return with another episode or whether it'll be narrative over conversational style but I promise we will be back and as always I appreciate everyone's support and I hope everyone has a good holiday season and a happy new year at any feedback. I'm always listening on twitter by the hat. Nate Ryan thanks again for listening to NASCAR AN NBC podcast.

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So Adam is a guy who I ran into last year. Believe Karl or from Superhuman Radio introduced us because he specializes in all things hormone optimization particularly for males but I believe that that his company works a little bit with females as well and he's just spent the last ten years Exploring the whole process of hormone optimization through things like stem mm self peptides hormone replacement therapy a whole lot more in kind of systematized all of this hormone optimization clinic that worked with people virtually a called renew life are ex also is a book that we may get into today called better than the binge sold out the social obligation of alcohol in how to get past that and perhaps most importantly He's a devoted husband have over twelve years. He has an eleven year old son man after my heart because I have a couple of those myself and a seven year old daughter and so he's not he's a family man. I keeps himself in peak physical condition. And he's he's a real wealth of knowledge on hormone own optimization. His name is Adam Lam and everything we talk about today. If you get Ben Greenfield fitness dot com slash Adam lamb You'll be able to access the show notes. Learn more about his company ruined renew life are acts check out his book etc so Adam Welcome to the show 'em they banned. Thanks for having me Exciting night they're watching the fight. It was a good fiber. Actually yeah to tell me something like that like like one night of sleep deprivation vacation or one night of more alcohol than ones used to consuming. Have you ever had a chance to do like pre and post tests. Look at what actually happens to hormones after just a single incident like that. Yeah and so you know that our hormones can kind of go up and down like the system right throughout the day you know with sleep and things like that activity and you know you've covered it in a lot of your your show. I in exit even your most recent podcasts. You talked about natural testosterone. Where you know it would folks Progestin Jackson in the kind of ask about the natural things that they can do in your number? One is acting active right good activities especially using legs legs Number two is healthy nutrition. which would you know? Alcohol can lower testosterone and things like that on the other side good hydration proper nutrients of its sleep right in also sexual activity like regular sexual activity is good. The one thing I'd be curious about in your situation is is a part of me like a love fighting in an ice be fighting space x at work with a ton of retired guys. I also got got like violence and stuff like that. But there's when you're watching that stuff it was just like primal male party you like instinct. That fired up. You know what I mean. I would be curious if to stock levels would increase in those moments right like you're getting ready to get flight or like just being in that right like environment whether it's adrenaline only or adrenaline just Australian. I'd be curious out bath. Yeah we'll aren't there. Some MM studies that show an increase in. I don't know if it if it's salivary testosterone or what when guys are viewing pornography. Yeah Oh yeah for sure. The it's actually Blood pressure heart rate increase in all that kind of stuff is well absolutely. That's why sexual activity is good for is you're you're you're getting your body to practice that the the process of arousal erection and Dan Orgasm basically which which also helps stimulate a natural testosterone. So tells me yeah. Yeah except the. The neuro transmitter met her not not mentioned in the The social implications of a regular pornography habit That's probably not the best way to get your testosterone levels of and maybe maybe responsible civil viewing of UFC fights could bump it up a little bit. But you're right a lot of these things like lifting with your legs. High intensity interval training proper sleep proper nutrient management etc are a lot of this stuff I've covered on on previous shows are of course the foundational principles I just recently did a podcast That was the thirty two different ways to naturally increase testosterone. And you know put folks listen to that. I'll put that in the show notes because I've kind of addressed that that side of things but But what I want to get into with. You is more of the science of hormone optimization from a laboratory standpoint from a testosterone utilization standpoint KC. So an by the way before we jump into that. Do you work with women as well as men with renew life hundreds of women that okay. I've got some questions. Nations for about that too excited to answer. Okay cool so so first of all in terms of quantifying. Obviously I would imagine step one. John is to actually figure out. What's going on with your hormones? If you were going to test and some of these questions I realized rabbit hole a little bit but we have time. So what. What exactly besides just looking king at testosterone are you testing and tracking when someone comes in and they just want to know how endocrine system is functioning? They're concerned about Libido Oh energy levels etc yeah it's a great question and I'll dive into like specifically Cannavaro. We look a phase. One test really is like you know sir. We'll we'll take what we do almost everybody. We have a different one for male female. Obviously and then if there's red flags or concern on on something then we have like this his face to where we dive deeper right. It's like you don't have to go to the ends degree with every single person if they don't even have symptoms that potentially are in that space space so part of the process before I go into the blood work part of it is really having a a story about. You know what's going on in your life when your symptoms uh-huh and things like that because then we kind of goes into those notes for the physicians to review as the results. Come back as well but we've kind of over the of course time. Yeah we've we've replaced Kick certain panels out and added new things and we don't have like a seventeen page every the some of that stuff. The reason being is costly number one by a few have like we still we take care of some of these crazy unique folks zip. People just haven't been able to help the like fourth place in sometimes it. Just because we have the experience we've worked with thousands thousands of people over the course of a decade that we have cadet so I should say you know. We're we're kind of technology companies while so a lot of the reason why we do stuff is because we look at the data and see how it comes out so going into like men we check the CBC differential Platelet Metabolic Panel Lipid panel with cholesterol. Uh Stroll obviously HDL the total chaos. Room A. T. S. H. I. G. F. One F. S. H. L. Age. PSA HE ESSAY ASTRONOMICAL IN S. H.. BG just kind of the phase one check in unless there's through conversation we. We noticed that there might be a couple of things. We want to add the diving into the thyroid bit more. We're diving okay. GimMe Gimme a thirty second overview for for for each of those parameters on why you chose those specifically for a hormone panel and also not not the complexity of this question too much. There are a couple all things I I didn't hear that would have expected to like free testosterone and. I don't think you said Estrogen said you know what I said. Total total testosterone. I thought he's GonNa ask about what I s I saw filming on each of those. Nyu Test them in you. Don't test those two that I mentioned. Yeah for sure. And so the you're going through the CBCP's is you know just standard health right. We WanNa make sure you're healthy. We want you know going being into a lot of folks. We work with fifty percent are new people right. They're they're not in the fitness space. They're like man. I just WanNa feel better veteran feel more confident and I want to have more. You know excitement in my life I WANNA be more playful with my wife. Bills are our favorite clients. Because they're not trying to achieve some kind of physical goal which unite from the bodybuilding. Space is something that's some obnoxious and also fleeting right. You just never really get too happy. But so we the overall WANNA make sure they're healthy Going to you know the CBC giving Baseline Working mclovin hematic credit red blood cell and those kind of things prior to treatment and then the with metabolic panels while lipids cholesterol. It's another thing like healthier Rule number one clinic is yet to be healthy. I number two. Who is wearing a Jiffy L. We'll talk about that. A little bit later with disaster owning cardiac disease. Those kind of things that you're responsible. That's not really miss. You going into the eighty eight to something we've seen over time. There's a lot of our clients to like high stress high functioning young guys like you. That are zillion miles an hour planes every other day type thing and we just noticed that depletion. DHEA will restore that or it actually put it in optimal symbol ranges. They sleep better and feel less. They feel less stress on interrupt. You buy real quick because I've actually From what I understand and the. Da is something that if you replace that alone like like in one of the podcasts. That I did The the one at the forum. I talked about missing nutrients that that would be a good idea to address foundationally before you actually begin on something like two Sasa replacement therapy and it's creating boron vitamin D A magnesium and. Dha was one of those as well. But do you find in some folks that that something as simple as restoring. The like whatever twenty twenty five fifty milligrams Dhea is something that often reduces the need for. Actually using testosterone is a good question. I'll say yes or no in I'll say yesterday think of somebody who I guarantee we bury a famous popular marketing guy. who had he reached out? It's just like subbed off. And he's like fifty one fifty two like in our head where like just Austrian but he didn't WanNa go that route and we just did some. We just recommended a good quality. Aga brought up to take about a couple hours before bed and it helped his circadian rhythm and his his biggest concern is he wasn't like wanting to get get out of bed and this is like a motivational guy who that's what. He lives in breeze and he found he kinda lost it in that helped restore the in. It took a couple of weeks but that that's that's all we did and he said he felt like he was back now. We know popping amounts of disaster or something like that and doing a going through the full blood tests. It was just like a recommendation. Hey try DJ before betsy self-regulates in that helped him but if your disastrous low and you have symptoms of low testosterone we wanna right treat symptoms over just blood levels and we'll talk about that a little bit too but it at the end of the day. You're you don't feel good. What's the what's the whole purpose of makes sense okay so in addition to Dhea? What were some of the other ones that you were talking about that? You're looking at it from a from a lab test standpoint for your basic intake. Yes yeah. So We'd total Stran- total to stash from has always given us a good vision of the state of your body basically were your body's at from two stone awesome standpoint free tests. It's not as important when you're looking at S. H. G. and we'll talk about those what i WanNa do with his Co. through reference ranges is that where we the priority is what you should be testing And then so the. TSA is another one. The thyroid's million just to see like if it's buried or if it's higher than normal we know there's an issue. We need to dive deeper if there's not a world to believe that thyroid medication is that number number. One kind of abused slash overly prescribed hormone medication In this country like everybody's got a thyroid issue rallies. Not Everybody's thyroid issue. The the you know it fluctuates it may just have some other issues. That are they have to do with her thyroid. And so that's something that we we test but in May look deeper into like the t t three t four free and In some of those different ranges. But it's pretty rare that we have to do that in a lot of times people coming up coming off once. They're just aspirins optimize in coming off their thyroid medication. Because the reason they took the thyroiditis they wanted what the gives them. So it's it's an interesting thing in it was like I said this is all morphed over time of experiencing collecting data data in all this kind of stuff based on how we do it to get that best outright. The next one I think Super Bowl not a lot of people look at his idea of one one and so we we look at that with everybody and that'll tell a lot about sleep stress in for folks that are in recovery recovery. You know things like that from a muscle building or strength in those things are endurance and stuff like that that help is jeff one levels decrease significantly as we get older but also a lot of lifestyle things have to do with it. The other part of checking the idea one is though red flag up potentially for a two-tier Terry issue. That could be ause of all this stuff right meanings. Meaning if I if one is is super low it could indicate to Terry dysfunction that would affect overall testosterone don't production or super high. Yeah I mean we've we've had a few folks have come through in there just other up in the three hundred four hundred and they shouldn't be not because they're not if they're taking a decent amount of growth hormone they would be but they're not in so that's kind of a concern and we'll we'll advise that they go see interconnect gist and get get a mariah brain. We've had I don't know maybe half a dozen boats come through. It never thankfully ever having had cancer but we've had people that tumors that were not in cancer on there. We discovered what I've been doing interviews with with people about about testosterone for longtime in one of the first guys. I interview that. That was actually his issue. was he had a tumor at turned out. which which of course is typically not the cause of low testosterone? But it. It certainly can't be something to look at. I didn't realize that I G if one could be a measure for Chorley that just it's it's one of those things that you test something for multiple reasons in but if we see something like Leica three fifty four hundred order you know. Obviously we get people that are. They're doing stuff on their own that they're not telling us about what's up with that. You know we hope they come clean. Uncut scare them with a there could be Issue we want you to go see an analogous locally will find the no qualitative growth hormone that I get from. That's like okay that's right and so it's allows US dude help The state of them because folks don't sleep real well every every single time people that we can look in there in the low one hundred's and even beloved dipping below hundred. They all have sleep issues. I mean you take a sleep apnea person who's not look at the right jeff when levels compared to someone like great man eight hour solid number wake up those. Those people are always higher so we see that from a data collection standpoint that I just want you in the one has to do with recovery and things like that as well. So if you're always so you're not recovering you're tired you're not getting good sleep Like it's it's all kind of hurting. It saves time and that just get a lot of that data just idea one that I know a lot of these. These growth hormone releasing peptides or or growth hormone precursors. They can often help people with sleep as well when they when the US sleeps. kind of goes both ways absolutely. Oh for sure that you and then the next thing we look at Mrs Berman is F. S. H. in L. A. H. so follicle stimulating hormone hormone. In part of the reason is is it also tells. The story has like a function are are those function because usually if they're functioning healthy properly your natural testosterone good and that communication from the brain and interesting is happening. How it's supposed to but sometimes it's it's way low in sometimes it's way high in either way? It's it's not a good thing thing. If you have the communication is like if I give you directions and you still show up at the wrong place or you just don't is my son to do something like five times. That's that's the I'm doing doing my job by telling him but the message isn't working right and so I'll probably use a lot of allergies. I apologise that's my goal is to dumb down. A lot of folks understand but so ellie the geneticist h it gives us a good baseline too because those levels just about always drop depending on the path to saas term therapy go on but usually usually on there so we know where they're at in because we also like to help people throughout the course of a year will usually have folks come off and do kind of like a reset to show them that he can get you back to where you were prior to therapy because you have to his broker right in dancers typically no but a guy. It's thirty five is gonNA bounce back easier than the guy that's sixty five. So so you'll put someone on testosterone and get their levels up and then gradually take them back off the testosterone gradually. We're just at the belief in just with anything like that shouldn't be done always We want to. We want to see what the body does. The just me personally so October I come off to Saas Room completely. Do like a reset get simple similar to post. Michael Therapy type thing. Wouldn't let us at terms. It's usually associated with steroids abuse boggling. But it's very similar structure and then after that doing labs there's about a week post reset and showing. That's that's really where your natural levels are going to stay as opposed to somebody who might go onto awesome. Come off whether it's financially or some other health issue happens in a have to come off and then there Pavlik in this. Low York's the national functions not shut down Flett And it can be shut down significantly. her based on the You're putting into your body and so we just just pay attention to the L. A. S. H. Baseline for us to see where you were out in Sometimes they come in. It's their point. Four L. H. Point Eight F S H. That's low in the we might be able to get your testosterone backup just by increasing L.. HFS Hd may be like H G or climate protocol or something. Look that Gotcha or of course for L. H.. NFS A big part of that from a Almost a very similar like HP access standpoint would be things like stress sleep nutrient management etc Because the the issue there would be the actual message from the brain in getting delivered to the testes to produce testosterone not happening properly. And that's usually more of like a stress issue if if it actually is impacting L. H.. FHM dramatically all right one hundred percent. It's funny as you would think it in any any client of ours you talk to you. It will tell you we talk and ask a lot about a lot of delight that they don't typically get when they go in to their standard. You know family practitioner in because we understand Ek stress is massive especially especially erectile dysfunction. That things like that where the guy I've had the medication doesn't work or the of these other estrogens is to hire Massachusetts to lower. I'm not enough to start. They WANNA blame the drug but you conversation in lifestyle like and they're stressed out in like if I put a gun here head I don't care how attracted you are two opposite sex. You're not thinking about Dr Fairly we have these firefly things on sometimes you just. It's part of our life if we don't realize it in stress so massive I mean to your point with a lot of the symptoms that could be related to low testosterone case appoint. Why cassation alleged another thing to look at these testing and then what what else after L. H. NFS hr you're looking at a PS as one? That's Ordin we. We want a good baseline. I don't I can't recall obviously see everybody's stopper here everybody from a patient standpoint but we we try to keep everybody everybody under one but we also WANNA know guy. It came across recently a friend of a friend of mine so I want his guess aching back really high in had he do not come through our process who discovered it he had to go in and had to get a prostate exam and get things checked out thank God he didn't have cancer anything but it was something to look into it right like had he. If there was a situation you know maybe it would have been caught early instead of something later in so it just gives us a good baseline because too much Austrian a Lotta Times can increase prostate to a bad spot but also too much which two high allegiant. FSI We've seen Convert over to hire folks. Who that Kinda come with really Higher than normal alleging NFL Higher prostate levels while so again kiss eight for baseline we WANNA make sure Therapies not causing a negative impact in in most cases it actually lowers their PSA. Okay got it so Anything else. In addition to PSI ops the next would be the ESTER dial. There's a good again a good baseline piece of where we WANNA be to to find out how their body may react from like Enron position attention to to Saas Jerome in. Were they start. You know some guys come over twenty over forty three Finding out the lifestyle diet things like that we stop outdoing total estrogens. Part of it is so much stuff that can affect your estrogen levels. It's not as important. I mean if if you eat soy regularly if you have a guy just quick story for listening head almonds was like his snack on his desk in his estrogen was like three hundred which super however guy and we couldn't figure out why we just talked while he's talking to these eating amok would eat music almonds and I said well that that's probably converting because lagoons and things like that have been shown to convert estrogen. He came off a stop eating almonds and he was eating a lot of all for the record in his estrogen. Without under a hundred. That was the only thing changed interesting. Well no estrogen is related to inflammation as well and if the almonds were from like a trail mix and in many cases those things are coated with vegetable oils as well. Sometimes there's things coming in along with the nuts that dynamic and impact as well yeah for sure. So it's just everybody's body you know there's one thing a two with this whole space that any absolute only absolute is any absolute for anybody is wrong right like what works for you in works. TREMAIN works for the guy down. The street can be different right. So everybody's body Utilize certain things differently absorbed things differently can respond to things differently and so we just really try to. We measure that throughout the process with our clients every two weeks. We have follow up specific questions related out where we think they might be the journey to get data to see if the physicians want change dosing. Increase something take away something. Add something something like that and most of them I think about eighty six percent of time we have dialed in initially which is good and then the last thing which is potentially the most important thing is sex hormone binding finding Lavin. Shp Gee that's something we've been super focused not like hyperfocused. I'd for like the last four years. We started really looking into two years. In kind of like been hyper focused on that because we've seen it there for like the quote unquote happy like feeling of of somebody on US US Ron or not artist. astrum really is correlation of a ratio for SHP g Ostro and with guys that have highest age. BG Hello S. H. BG either or can have this low testosterone a symptom in just has to do with the ratio of the total to Stash Shaun S. H. P. G.. We've just found that whether it's high and they may require higher doses disastrous to get that down as opposed to trying to press it down or if it's as low trying to bring it up first before we put him on therapy. It just works well. In many cases in in from what I've seen in folks that I've I tested and worked with high sex hormone binding. Globulin is also something that seems to pop up over and over again on a high fat low carb Diet it and I've seen some evidence that it may be because insects woman binding Globulin also somehow is involved with the the transportation of fats through the bloodstream or the interaction With the fatty acid metabolism. And sometimes you might see artificially elevated values all use of SHP G in state of a high fat low carb Diet. Have you run across anything like that. not specifically we. You know there was a lot of talk to like obesity was tied to HIGHEST HP G. In some guys that we've seen with with actually total contrary two with highest HP G. R.. Like super-quick guys in what we've seen. Is that allow the guys will see. Let's say they're forty astros seven hundred right so anyone else usually have the planet would say a man you're fights That's great but the H.. One hundred thirty in what we found is that usually to conversation the those guys are all have always been muscular athletic. You know like when you think of like a eighteen year old Lebron James. That didn't have nine hundred to Saas from eighteen hundred until we've been doing a lot of testing of exists in the system. We could talk about food food with with younger folks like athletes to kind of show them like. Hey Man when you were twenty two beast your testosterone seventeen hundred because you're not gonNA look at different athletes in people talk about August got good genes. Yeah it's his is just asteroid function in recovery and growth hormone. All those things those those are the those are what we're talking about when it comes to like absolute beast athletes in our house younger. Some of these guys that knew that were like lease due date. Pizza drink ear look like bodybuilders two weeks out and it just had a a good genetics but a lot of it was known. We're not testing to saas thrown in eighteen eighteen nineteen twenty. What my my son? I'll definitely do that. I understand that difference in some. Actually you mentioned Carl. Carl talked about a lot. So we're we're working with a young athletes to do their blood work. They're healthy no symptoms fuel amazing right crushing goals and things like that to see what that looked like then so ten years from now if they don't feel like that they can compare right. have an understanding of what might have happened. whether it's just natural testosterone gold lower or with fighters for example like Yosef fighters these guys after we get so many concussions not be. Is things like that. You'RE GONNA it's GonNa Affect your system. which can ultimately lower your testosterone so used to be a fighter at fifteen hundred disastrous Three fifty five years later because you've been pounded heavily times so stuff like that that we've just we're looking into testing because it's interesting for us. We like to data. Okay got it now. Now you running all these with Blood measurements or using anything like saliva or urine. That's a great question. We've always San but we always done it with the blood work in. It's like a trusting like we just we trust that data. I think that we would be open to doing some different urine stuff or different saliva step. 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Their their morning blood levels of Cortisol Oh elevated which is the case naturally in many people but perhaps cortisol is is extremely low the rest of the day after that morning rise. I mean how is it that you wouldn't want to look at some of those variations throughout the day yet. I think it's a you're you're totally right. A lot of the we were a lot of trainers at refer clients glance over in particular. Has Everybody do the the Dutch test first. And then ultimately they come over to us because it's likely to Saas Toronto deficiency efficiency but win you know like I said these are surface kinda tests in that. If we have to go deeper we we refer out you know like I that we got it. We're not experts at certain parts of certain areas are experts In everything were really good in this stuff that we do. But the The biggest concern that we have these baseline's we have everybody do fasted testing. They do it in the morning. And that's the items that we look at and then if we need to do out treatment detest other things we definitely about. You know. There's folks we get blood work every thirty days. I'll every ninety days and just about everybody goes every six months every six months would be like gold standard for for the the minimum amount of time between tests or the maximum time between tests. And even you know there's there's folks have worked with us for five six seven years in like they're they're south experts. You know which we've empowered them to really and understanding their health. What works in we still have them? Go every six months to make sure because something else can occur in your life if I think of it like if the Viking get folks to check their blood work regularly think of how much disease or other issues that we could potentially identify early Eh for them. That may have nothing to do with hormone therapy but for me. It's like doing the right thing and do a good thing by making them get their blood work done Regula uh-huh you testing anything different in women versus men like with everything you just described as the typical male panel. Would that look different. If you were testing a female it women will look at things like pregnenolone progesterone We do look at total estrogens with women. I'm not dials much but other than those that I just listed it. It's pretty similar. This fars that we will. Experience is a lot of people. Don't like to statement. Is We just. The women are typically taking everything under the under the sun except for We've just seen to stop. Don't be that way I couldn't tell you how many times aged women that are taking five nine twelve days in they still feel like crap they still have all the Simpson. We take them off. It usually having like a thirty day. You just slyke clean the body out detox and just do like a low dose to stockroom green light up. This is what I've wanted for nine years. You know you have. Women do a low dose testosterone cream. That's the usually the first place we go and even northern progesterone. Oh yeah without a doubt now with interesting it yet. One of the things we've actually seen too. It's very unique with women. Because here's the deal if you're if you're a guys we don't work with guys on thirty maybe unique rare cases we've had guys have certain issues testosterone. Just GonNa. It's GONNA help them. Most guys under thirty are usually like want to be bodybuilders in their goals. Don't light up with our ideal client goals right of people just want to do a great deal be healthier feel inspired but with women the women after having a baby can have just a total wreck of their hormone ONS right and so we've seen where we've had younger women come aboard to stop shrooms entertaining estrogen in the tank a Tank all these things in their body still in like baby making years right baby making baby making commode but baby making years and so we found that instead of giving them differ patches and creams and pills and all this other stuff that just doing to stop Stroh it's Calicut authoritative hormone that once it's elevated to optimal levels. The estrogen falls back into place. That suggestion falls back into place. Recycle is is now normal again and then if they're younger the great thing is we we can bring him off to saas thrown in the body. Just that it's like the clock. The timepiece keeps ticking. In you know obviously if we we had him at a fifty two stone now they're down at a forty but before their four but they're doing it naturally in that we've scene Women like come back. Wouldn't vote with guys. It's tough Unless it's an L.. HFS H situation. But a Lotta Times women to one of the biggest goosing with menopause is is just Optimizing their to stop thrown eliminates the symptoms of hot flashes. Night sweats that your ability the vaginal dryness all that kind of stuff. Just just astro cream and if you put five things especially women. The men are certain things that we know what needs to be there. You can just have one legged stool but with women it will always start with one thing. I usually testosterone or yeah. Maybe it's thyroid's on but typically stops room and then as you know depending on the feedback. Sometimes they're great. It's problem solving. What would have more drugs right right but other times we may add some things as we go so that we have those reference points of like? Oh Hey I'm having trouble sleeping. Our eighties hot flashes came back. Alright will pull out. The weather's the whatever it might be in just really measure that stuff as we get Austrians like the the main number number one thing that we do with the low dose and when you say low knows how much is that do you think of like a average male to saas thrown is like two hundred milligram of females maybe two point five two before milligrams of of time ahead a client. WHO's retired tired bodybuilder? Like she's abused her body with tons of drugs but she's like in her fifties now so she needs a little bit of a higher dose. She might be like a five milligram rider. Canadian as high as a seven point five or something like that so it it varies but like you know suzy down the road hundred twenty five pounds. Just kind of menopause. Nick maybe even a two point five milligram cream that will we'll do it okay. Now now that kind of leads me to question wanted to ask you about and that that would be. Let's say you ultimately determined that testosterone does need to be replaced in In in a man or woman who you testing and you mentioned the cream and I'm curious because there are a lot of different methods out there from injections to pellets to gels creams What are your guys go? To's as far as the actual method of delivery if you find that testosterone is low. You've already addressed foundational principles like nutrition sleep deep stress the type of exercise someone is doing it. CETERA is still low so at that point. What would be the form of delivery that you would use? Yeah so I I would say about eighty percent of men women we there might be two women that do very small dose injection has to do is. They're having Kevin transdermal. Absorption issues like two of hundreds of We work with we like the cream. That's eighty percent of our tale patients for example do cream sauce from green to reasoned eight. We believe it's the healthiest safest most effective way Be Be a lot of our guys are just. They're not put like I'm not putting a needle in you know they're not comfortable Guys like you and I were experimental. We've been in the space as longtime like it's not scared at Avenida but most people are like they shake United The thought of that in in in. That's a lot of the reason why they don't pursue just awesome. Say think they have to give go to the doctor get injections every week or they have to take Andro Gel. Something on a lot of the gels just are are great and so we use a cottage Green in the cool part is you can adjust the dosing right. We've guys doing three in the morning three at night or two in the morning at night two and two is probably the average. A maybe it's one one and a lot of has to do with like. Where did they feel the best? Because for me I I feel like in the eighteen. Hundreds is probably my number like eight fifty fire to just pick one where I feel the best higher than that. I'm a little like Libido distracted. I'm probably a little bit more intense. You know in under that. I'm kind of a little more right. But some guys they need to be two thousand eleven hundred or twelve light in some guys if they get get up to eight hundred they feel anxious and a you know. They're finding themselves distracted or something like that. So finding that the cream allows us to help adjusts this dosing Just based on that feedback loop that we get from them in injections will do you usually do like a split dose during the week week of injections the once a week is not ideal. You're not. You're not combining injections with a cream. You're doing one or the other. Yeah we we've done a couple of hybrid bread where you'll do like to have C- c- of To Saas Room for example into like a a one pump at night type thing. We've had some folks do that. Were a lot of folks. Are traveling comfortable taking you know. They're going overseas regularly at that. It didn't want to travel with the injection to have like a travel cream type thing that laugh and do that helps keep those levels optimized It we really liked the decree really gives that like that natural testosterone pulse. And that's what we see that being most effective new. You mean the natural testosterone Poulton that testosterone pulsing a couple of times a day for example in the morning in in the evening. So when someone's using a cream using a cream like apply to the out imagine the testicles or an array of high blood flow in the morning and then also in the evening. Yeah and so. We'll talk about the SCROTAL application a second. But the you're exactly right so that that night and morning mimicking to to the point. Where if you do it? Think about when you're breaking down this dose as opposed to like one hundred milligram injection right twice a week. You're bringing us those fourteen milligram injection right like twice a week or twice a day or whatever the the euro sneaking it into the body in. It's about green so the body there's less Less disruption let's change as opposed to if you take a guy that's doing a onc- injection every two weeks the side effects title worth Right and so in no way matches the natural fluctuations testosterone like doing a huge boas at one point versus doing smaller doses morning and evening on a more frequent basis. So it will. We'll see a guy it might feel like superman for five days and then a little bit normal then feels like crap again but his hemoglobin hematic. They're all shoot now Cow L. H.. H shut down because the other At one time. So they're getting all the negative piece in like Kinda some of the positive but with the with guys do to stop strength cream that they're eligible elhage. NFC don't even go down. They stay there. Because it's it's the proper dose. That's Kinda with that natural disastrous pulse. And so they. We don't need more drugs. They need less jar and so so that would also be be a situation which would be less likely to blunt the body's natural production of testosterone when you're using testosterone therapy if you're using cream okay and you and you said that the best place to apply the cream would be scrolling. Let's I know that that's been super popular We actually have votes. Do the back of the knee or forearm or personally do shoulders. Absorption but but everybody's skins different body weight You have a higher fat content the absorption can be a little bit different So we I know that. There's this guys do it. That's not our path. I know that it works well of putting it on the back of my knee or on my forearm or might you know a shoulder something like like that so I think the last place in my body I want to be a problem is down there because everything works really great and I know that putting the cream on my I children's for example Works really great too and so we don't necessarily vise that but I know that we have guys that do it but I'll tell you recently a guy who's been a clever couple years he's always been up forearm guy and he started doing it slowly in any actually is Ezra dial went up like strangely after he'd been doing that for about ninety days ish outset members time for is a refill on a mentioned that in through trying to figure out like what's going on how why why why this sudden change I mean. We're lucky we talked earlier. We're going to diet sleep pattern nutrition like eating something different in. I don't know why it took up to the end of the conversation. But he's like oh I switch switch to scrotal and so so we switched them back in the symptoms away. Not that that's going to happen. Everybody Right Eh. But we just kind of mentioned that it whether it's absorption he's absorbing more it's peaking higher those kind of things we we wouldn't know without doing significant begin testing into it. We just know from our patients who've been working with for so many years doing it this way it's worth while So we usually just said forearm arm shoulder back in the But it's each their own I personally Guide I I've never done it and I don't know that I would Like I said try it in for for women is still Badgley now. Same thing back in the forum in women are our the biggest challenge sometimes. Is that just making sure that their bodies they'll use lotion and things like that. Like you WANNA make sure. Absorption good or the area's clean and dry But never never ever any physicians ever had put it on Bachelor. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying we've never done it because we've never really had to write. We get the results without one concern. That people might have because the this recently two different research articles recently came out One in early American Medical Association and I think the other one was the annals of of internal medicine where they were dressing testosterone replacement therapy and talking about an increase in cardiovascular events or an increase reese in inflammation or or some other concern from medical standpoint. Did you see either of those papers. I heard about them. Actually some up for mutual friends uh of unify. But there's you know some of the studies we look into. I think there's got to be a lot of responsibility in two stops from therapy. It's like handling a gun right you need to Are Bad you have to understand the gun before he ended up driving riding. You can't just get a copy like cars. You need to understand how the car works in the same thing with just ostro therapy anything. You could drown in water but just any water to survive right and so we really do the job. In in my opinion of making short I said early for Scotland You have to be healthy. I before national therapy because if if you're eating pizza every day drinking go to two liters amount due and sit on the couch. You don't exercise. You're fifty pounds overweight. I blood pressure. Cholesterol stood the roof. Like you need Tony Robbins. Not Hormone therapy like you. You gotta get some things together. I do your point like the National Health Aspects of getting active getting your body getting the right nutrients in your body of doing that. I and I think the problem is is a lot of times in the situation at those studies that they're not those folks that are just ostro there folks that don't don't have the best health situation or you know regular healthy lifestyles. These are people that maybe have not just their lifestyle but that are using using testosterone replacement therapy as a band-aid and what we'd have to see actually is is a comparison between people who use to Saas replacement therapy and also have set up all those foundational foundational principles from nutrition and low stress sleep it Cetera and those who simply are slapping and on and contained sleep five hours a night and you know fly all over the world and Anita Crappy Diet and they're just basically using testosterone to cover up some of those issues that it's probably going to be a different impact on our health and PSA and you know in all the other the things you know like inflammation that some folks will say testosterone replacement therapy will cause it will be interesting to actually see what happens with healthy people who use something like this. Yeah and and that's the first part the second part in our our panel docs is of the In agreement that like ninety percent of Therapy therapies not done properly. I mean we see it because we have these guys that are on therapy and they they kind of find our clinic through one of our clients or something like that after single guy recently getting three hundred milligrams to saas thrown every three weeks that that. If you do that you're GONNA end up with cardiovascular issues. Is Blood was a mess and the guys like thirty six years old. It shouldn't be because he's athletic Health conscious are ideal ideal. Person is the guy that's like he made. You're exercising regularly for the most part. You're taking care yourself most your life Athletic you're eating the right things. You're paying attention like you know who ben Greenfield is noted Kito Diet. Is You know intermittent vest after paying attention. But they're still not getting results. Those are the guys we hit home runs with because his they they know their body they know their health. They know the things that they're doing. And it's just not adding up from a results standpoint a in almost every time that cases you know it's a it's a hormone issue right but sometimes you look at these cardiovascular studies like it could be somebody who's just not healthy and then adding to stop strewn to it isn't isn't GonNa make you healthier buying books not reading up. It's not GonNa really do anything good for you except for take up space now do could any of this have something to do with with the actual form in which the Saas delivered or what's Co administered with it. Because I know a lot of doctors are administering everything from like H. E. G. to Dhea she a to other compounds entered along with the testosterone. Do you do you think that's part of this at all is well like administering testosterone by itself versus things things that you would normally have accompanied with testosterone. Yeah for sure. There's so many variables in those studies. And that's that's why we don't you know there's a big a big thing recently Probably last year about a anti-oestrogen and things like that being the worst thing for you and stuff like that. We're not of that leaf. We don't we also don't believe everybody everybody should be on something there it just a matter of what your. What is your bloodwork? Tell us. What's your what's your past health history? Tell us which your follow up lab work. Tell list based on your word. We need to adjust where we need to add. Is there something we need to do. Now is eight. CG for six weeks every six months or maybe you need one S. resolve Every ten days maybe you need to a week I personally take a half milligrams twice a week at what I did. My blood work rotates inhibitor to keep from excess estrogen correct yet taking it yet so if if I win two weeks without it I don't I don't feel as good overall just my body in that some people some people don't and you know the people bring up studies. Where will it showed you know? Bone density went down Scientists friend of mine. We were talking about that. He actually did the decks skin in his bone density didn't but also in that study were those people all onto Stachel. No Right which we know can help bone density. It's a some of these studies They're good I think referencing paying attention to in sparking the collector research rabbit trail for yourself but I think just being going into hormone therapy of not aggressively but monitored healthy people. That know what they're doing. I think that's the best way to do it to avoid being one of potential statistics. Gun No renew life. Are you guys using things other than hormone replacement like if you delved into Peptides or stem cells or any of these other things that that often are used. Just kind of in that same type of anti-aging cocktail. Yeah so we do a lot with different. Like growth hormone releasing peptides on BBC One fifty seven and things like that for healing a sister company. Here where I live in the Houston area called regenerate revival we do regenerate medicine so we'd do tissue derived allographs themselves in Indiana fluid. KP those kind of things are separate entities but Kinda all under the same same philosophy of care type thing but as far as the renew life Rx the hormone optimization. You absolutely Just game changer. Amazing that that can help votes but also making sure there's the right resource right supervision with them to to get the best out of them uh-huh and stay healthy too but to give example that I I would love you to delve into because I know you guys have like these different stacks. Peptide Stacks There were there was. There's one I saw on your website like a fat loss. Peptide stack would be in something like that. So I think in the memory but something like A The law screen. That cream really helps with localized lies fat and cellulite loss. So there's different stuff based on different goals that the usual focus is for us is like fat that loss lean muscle gain recovery. Work with guys at train like animals like you that their bodies is not keeping coming up with it. Maybe there's a jeff deficiencies Things of that nature and so those are things that we look at when it comes into the peptide row in recovery and I I just pulled up this fat loss peptide stack on the renew life Rx website and it says that that's three things an anti obesity drug drug injection that says it helps to immobilize fat cells a C. J. C. Immoral an injection to stimulate growth hormone secretion to cause fat loss. And then this transdermal fat loss cream. It says it's glycerin. CYNIC ACID Amino filing trans dermal fat loss cream. What's a anti-obesity drug? Because there is a peptide called Ao de that I've heard of before is like an anti obesity peptide. But I've never really dealt into it or asking about podcast. Yeah and and so that is actually what it is. And that's why I apologize for more of the business structure guide. I let the Smart Science guys do theirs as well right but yeah it is it's a ODU injections are doing the Injections with the C.. J. C twelve ninety five morale Roland and The vaccine which a lot of really get results. Yeah I'd be. I'd be curious to see if someone could lose weight on that like doing waking up in the morning doing something like a facet morning workout. so you mobilising fatty acids using something like this transdermal fat loss. Cream that apparently can almost spot reduced fat in target areas and then doing like the growth hormone secreted at night like C. J. C. EPA Marilyn Have have you noted that was something like that people actually he can accelerate significantly. Or are you guys. You're still kind of experimenting with a right now. Yeah so for me personally. I haven't done the Eo de we've had everybody that's used that to my knowledge An ULTA pull up the data to look into apologized Pair to give you that specific feedback but for me for example I use. I'll use the fat green in the morning. Get up I put it on. Go grab the Coffee Attorney Infrared Sauna and then I go sit in the sauna. It's five fifteen minutes or so. After I put the cream on and I noticed for sure my midsection personally usually at night before bed do I rotate between I mean the C. J. C. EPA. Merlin before I go to bed and Marilyn first thing in the morning and I'll do fasted. Workouts do intermittent fasting. So Oh I don't eat till noon. I'm so new personally. I know that journey as far as the results but and then the blood work and that kind of lifestyle story that we get it from the clients but I know that it became kind of like you said it's on. Our website became something that we talked about because we had a lot of results Good Resolve folks doing it. Yeah the marlins interesting because that's a pretty potent. If a fat loss muscle gain type of peptide from what I understand and I've never word done something like this myself so curious to ask you would you. If you were going to do something like that could you could you use testimonial as a peptide in the morning for like a morning workout offer muscle gain of fat loss and then for the growth hormone secretion during bed and the better sleep than us. Cj See Marilyn in the in the evening and stack those three together other. Yeah and we've we've had those. Actually I think one of our physicians that in the I jeff levels. I get kind of higher than necessary. So you so you may be in two anabolic estate or risk for like too much activation for like our goals right for the goals of what we wanted function as the clinic that can that can happen. Yeah and so. I always take everything back to me personally. Like I wouldn't do that I could you know but I just don't I just think a little less more we got. We want to like get the best results with the least amount of drugs Oswal. Okay got another one I saw on your website was the Benjamin Button longevity cocktail. What is that one? Yes so we kind of hopped on that was more of like an attention catcher because I think he he probably mainstream news and that's why we hopped in there was a conversation about growth hormone metformin. DHEA being the like showing signs of reversing aging but the study was done in like nine people but we had that as a we want to have that conversation conversations. Like you WanNa be the Dad. That has a conversation about sex with your kid not the neighbor kid. Having the conversation like what he learned from his older brother is. It's the same thing like we kind of did that internally in obviously we put that article externally because we want to have that conversation so people aren't going and making assumptions are poor health decisions going down the wrong track of something that maybe wasn't studied. This could be and what what was in that. Cocteau the Benjamin Button Cocteau yes growth hormone. DHEA in Metformin okay. Yeah Yeah I know I know this study that you're talking about right now. I talked talked about that one on a podcast and mentioned that you know what I would like to see is perhaps using some more natural substances like you know for example colostrum Instead of the growth hormone and you know maybe see something like some bitter herbs or spices like bear brain vinegar cinnamon and then Ah The third component was DHA. Maybe leave that in there. But you know replace a couple of the more hefty pharmaceuticals or growth hormone with something a little more natural and see if he gets. It's somewhere results but yeah it is interesting that that they pretty significantly reverse the EPA genetic clock in that study by something like two and a half or three years right. Yeah it. It's interesting and we'd like to see where that goes. And it's stuff that you were always looking into that. And I think actually how I met. Let's Stoop Hector Lopez. WHO's a closely in a like? We're we're constantly looking in there. That's the backside conversations that Address the art. Our team looking like is this. Is this real is. It wasn't a big enough study. How can we look into it? How can we quantify how could we? They got a better way to look at that while those things but nonetheless it's a conversation that now makes ABC and Fox News or whatever we have to be prepared to have that conversation so people aren't out there like trying to misinterpret information that they saw the news. Yeah Hector's Michigan actually had him on the podcast. So I cast. We did a show about kind of like the the dirty back. End of nutrition supplement companies and how supplements are manufactured in the difference between CGIP non on CGIP and crazy ingredients. You can find in supplements that aren't supposed to be in there like we actually a pretty interesting podcast couple of years ago. So I'll remember to put that one in the show notes for this episode. Good again which I had been green finished dot com slash Adam lamb I also wanted to ask you about this idea of alcohol. All and why you wrote a whole book about overcoming the social obligation of alcohol. Obviously also since I'm in Vegas Something that's top of mind because I think have to cities walking around with a giant cocktail cup with curly Straw. Sticking out of it right in like we're Yoon are gonNA similar as I've been like a lifetime lifetime you know body. Hacker Bio Hacker. Whatever you WANNA call it? It's a constantly like. Where can I be better Ryan in? I'll try different things in you know some stuff up tried to cardboard i. It doesn't work for me. I've tried the Kito giant Doesn't work for me. Like cleaning works for me intermittent fasting. I don't eat till noon everyday. I stopped at eight but this is a done it for like four years now and it and it just works for me so that the alcohol thing was alcohol apartment life. My younger years is departed a negative side at a alcoholic. Father would always Kinda was like in the back of my mind. A saw dad left. Dad wasn't around always about out debt. No dead chose alcohol over me type thing so that being a father myself supporting the world is mine vomit in the lives of my kids and so it's it was just always there like the elephant in the room room and I'm a guy you get up in the morning bested training on the bridge into teaching about this stuff since like I was in high school in so it didn't make percents that I drank regularly and I drink too much in my twenties August. bartending nightclubs like partying. Do Not GonNa stop bribing. Yeah I've been to Vegas like where you're at now not seen day for a couple of days like just just over that lifestyle but black into the time when quit drinking it was it was cut off a summer. We lived in Michigan. Lived in the late where you just kind of get on the boat. You're just kind of drinking. Because that's what everybody's doing that was like man sick. I don't remember less they. They didn't have a drink and so I I was like I'm going to go thirty days so I stopped drinking for thirty days and I went to Vegas threes actually for the Olympia in some other stuff and I was clogged went through. That didn't drink. I'm going to try another thirty days. Sixty and then ninety to ninety days and I was like I'll never drink again in that decision like like I don't know man. It's a weight was lifted off my back to just look I don't need it and it doesn't add up the night. People told me like younger. My mind was so much more clear. I was coming to solve problems faster and I was like holy cow Beyond something and then I reached out to Mac says he's he wrote his book. Visser appeared hell. So He's a buddy of mine I want to write a book. He helped me. We'll have a company that does it at the time was called book in the box. Sorry I don't remember what it's called surfer somewhere over there to to bet if you want to write a book it's incredible process in so Tucker's team helped me write the book better than the Banjo. because I didn't want to be the guy that's like sitting down with my friend that once a beer in discussing I was like I want to just create a comfort area to have this conversation if you you think you have a bad relationship with alcohol. Here's what I did to stop drinking Walks everybody the process of removing to Kinda get around that social obligations. A lot of folks are now get good. INCI hang out your co workers and things like that everybody's gotTa drank obligated. Then I don't feel it was good I'm disappointed in myself. Drinking what whatever it might be and so figured out wait. I've coached a few hundred people through quitting alcohol. which has been Kinda neat? I'm I'm not anti alcohol. Actually buy wine for my wife because she doesn't know yeah I was GONNA say I've I've seen some evidence that you know. Small doses may actually well partially be take effect be healing for the blood brain barrier. And of course we see you know moderate or low to moderate alcohol consumption a lot of the blue zones and protection gets longevity dementia and and gloom fabric drainage during sleep like. There's there's a lot of benefits I think to to low to moderate consumption of alcohol But I do think that if if it's if it's becoming a fallback for you to decrease dress at the end of the day you're getting to the point where you're at two three drinks at night You know it. It is something that I think should step back but I I personally drink just about three hundred sixty five days a year one serving of alcohol and probably probably about once a month or so. You know kind of like I did last night. I'll have two or three drinks but it's pretty few and far between and I think that concept of microdosing with alcohol alcohol is beneficial. Not only. Because you know some of the polyphenols and Anthocyanins and flavonoids that you could arguably also get from you know from berries or something something like that but also because of that mild hormetic effect. You know what doesn't kill. You makes you stronger you know just like a little bit of radiation a little bit of Uva and you'd be a little bit of extreme extreme cold and extreme heat. I was talking about that at dinner last night. I was saying that when I used to drink regularly I never got sick sick more. You know maybe once a years something like that since I quit drinking but also moves to different now went from Michigan. Texas just different allergies this about that but I think that you know what I tell folks that are curious cnet like you just mentioned like having a drink through and sixty five days year no problem like your relationship with. Alcohol isn't bad but some people. The relationship with alcohol is bad but because socially they have five other buddies that drink more than they do they justify their three to five drinks. Cause that guys guys drug Taurus with you is not me so i. I don't have a problem but maybe they do it kind of the the temperature gauge. I always give folks is like if you drink to intoxication often. You have a problem if you drink intoxication. What's a blue moon like? You let things go no big deal and if you never talk station you definitely don't have a bad relationship work. I'm keeping my is quite a bit on some of these Potential alcohol replacement cocktails like at the at the Boundless Book Launch Party in New York City for example we twelve drinks on the cocktail menu. None had had alcohol. They were all adapted jains botanical Z- nutro picks and you know everybody was drinking and felt absolutely amazing. You saw that feel. He'll be at a cocktail party but there was no alcohol in these things. There's there's companies like I think Ken is one popular. One that's out there right now. That's making being these These products he's these drinks. That are meant to simulate kind of like what alcohol would do. But they've got different effects like in one for night live one for sleep one for you know like like being cocktail party. Whatever but there that that one's called kin and then I'm right now in the midst of looking into this new molecule called D.? One three butane dial. It's a key tone to kitone esther that's bonded to Beta hydroxybutyrate actually beauty rate but apparently actually have some waiting for me at home when I get home. It gives you a buzz very similar to alcohol. But it's a key tone induced adduced buzz that does not result in the toxin acid hell to hide formation. And so that's that's one that could be very interesting as well almost like like a Kito Genyk Nick. Non Alcoholic drink that that I think they actually call it Kito Buzz and I haven't tried it yet but some of these alternatives cocktails are pretty interesting too. Yeah and I'm not super familiar with them. I become like a sparkling water snob of like my. I have a fridge. My garage that gives his bring over like weird different rain and migrated into different sparkling sparkling water with caffeine in its naturally flavored with Apple. All these wild different things. It's kind of like a fun thing. That friends will come over. Also something just brings some unique thing but I was at a dinner last night. I didn't really know. Eileen one couple at the dinners affirmative birthday. I didn't know the rest of their friends but they didn't know I didn't drink. We're about halfway through into some conversation. Asian got he mentioned that up a book we talked about it but the the point was like they didn't realize I wasn't drinking with them and it wasn't intentionally but you know usually what I do of coffee which is little bit uplifting especially in the evening meal in like I have a period in its the guy poured in the wind last. I'm not trying president Past that people are looking into their final. Just have fun and have conversation outgoing Guy Anyway so like I don't need alcohol to open the APP and Led Me to remove it up right above just to kind of create a safe place for someone to ask questions or you're thinking about right. Yeah yeah and I'm even carefully him having alcohol like like here in Vegas last night. I was drinking mess. Cal With a little bit of Soda. The water lemon and a splash of bidders Mikhail's like micro filtered super low in sugar and it's almost like a like a kito friendly alcohol and so there's you know there's certain things I'll look for or when it comes to what I choose. I am drinking to ensure I've I stay as healthy as possible and nonetheless still always pop the deactivated coconut charcoal charcoal. Once I once I get back to the hotel room so so yeah okay. Alcohol's GONNA be different for everybody but you know I. I'm still a fan of microdosing responsibly. Possibly however I want you got your book I notice it's a I think it's like free with unlimited kindle subscription on Amazon right now We'll cool we've been going for a while so There's there's so much more that I could delve into with you about growth hormone and peptides and some of the things that we just read a whole on forever but but For now what I'm GonNa do is a I'm GonNa Pearl the show notes over at Ben Greenfield fitness dot com slash Adam lamb that's been dot com slash Adam. Lam and then be A. I know that you're offering everybody a fifty percent discount off the initial labs and initial consultation consultation with renew life Rx. And if folks want to do that I'll put a link in the show notes or if you wind up on their renew life Rx website. I'll just give you the code. 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Worst Presidents of All Time

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Worst Presidents of All Time

"Downloads of this show are available on pot dot com and the pot Matic mobile app. Fully sweet mother of God shit. Hello. What what are you doing? By hope. No one's eating dinner. The next best thing every Monday night from ten until midnight on Radio Free Brooklyn fun for everyone except for dear Jesus seven-night that can you hear me one second testing one-two-three on great any who before we get into what's going on in the news. What's going on in the world? Let's do the housekeeping that we always have to take care of. Let's just get it out of the way right off the top. You can tweet at us. We are at next best radio. That's at next best radio or go ahead. And like us on Facebook, follow us on Facebook. A lot of stuff gets posted on our Facebook page stuff. The we talk about in any given episode information links to pertinent sites all that stuff usually goes up on our Facebook page. That's Facebook dot com. Slash in BT radio. 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Mark, we talk, and we celebrate we talk about and we celebrate the best presidents. We've had but we often just kind of gloss over those failures those real, you know, shit holes that we like to pretend never happened. If you know what I mean? And I know you do but tonight we're going to talk about those sons of bitches because how could we not I mean in the world we live in in the climate? We live in here today. Good presence. They just don't seem relevant. We have a great guest coming in my good friend. Crystal Grabowski is coming in. He and I worked together, and we often debate various things we debate things like he is a huge fan of FDR and he likes to show. Shit on my main man, Harry Truman, what is an I should tell you this up front before he even gets here. Good friend of mine Christo Boesky. But the truth of the matter is that he is a little. I'm just kidding. He's really not crazy at all a very smart guy. Great guy looking forward to having him. We'll talk about all of the horrible all of the worst presidents, and they're not just our opinions there who are consistently ranked by the various polls and scholars as the worst presidents. We've ever had Donald Trump has been a gift to all of them. How could anyone look bad compared to who sitting squatting whatever you wanna call it in the White House today? They really couldn't you have a guy like Richard Nixon who regardless of what you think of his presidency. He did go down in flames. He was a ironically enough he wasn't crook. But you know, if you're looking at him or Donald Trump, you look at Donald Trump, and you think God, no, I'll take Richard Nixon any day of the week any day of the cutdown week. I tell you. You're listening to the next thing on Radio Free Brooklyn. We're gonna take a quick break. And we'll be right back. Right. 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Let's talk about some of the past horrible presidents because it is president's day. Am I guess tonight? As I mentioned earlier is still Grabowski. Explain your home store your from North Carolina, my family, we we have a house in North Carolina. And when I was younger, I did grow overseas always in Africa, but jumping around a lot from country to country. My dad does NGO work. So we just followed him wherever he was posted in that sense for non-governmental aid work. Centrally. So save the children companies like that that's real company. Yes. Oh, my dad worked for them for a long time. Wow. But yes, we have a house in North Carolina, which is kind of our base of operation. But you really did grow up Africa. Yes. Yeah. I moved to the states when I was eighteen years old came here for college. So naturally, it would make sense for you to come here tonight to discuss American presidents. Yes. Because clearly. An expert on actually. Yeah. No. I I I'm a history person in general, I find history fascinating. US history is definitely not my forte because it was not a part of the curriculums at the schools. I was going to we've talked. So let's I gave a little back before you got here, but we worked together, and we have a very, you know, that bygone debate that everyone has about how great or not so great Harry Truman FDR. We do. We talk about that a lot. Actually, let's talk about it really quickly. Now, we have some time for so why do you think Harry is June was so much better than FDR that does not in opinion that I necessarily you hate Harry Truman? I don't hate hairy. True. Mighty hate him so much I my feelings. I mean, you know, I it's it's an obvious argument to make. But I also think it's a strong argument to make is you know, he ultimately had the final say in how the atomic bombs were were used where they were dropped on how but whether or. Not. Well, yes. But but how they were employed. And that involves the decision, you know, do we drop it on a purely military target or do we target civilians? It was a circumstance that was extreme. I certainly can't speak to what I would have done in his position. But you can't no. But he ultimately, you know, he made the choice to drop the bombs on civilian targets. And I personally find that hard to excuse. That's all now. Wait a second. Yes. See your issue, isn't that? He used the song bomb. It said he dropped them on a non ideal target. Yes. There were military bases in Hiroshima. But you could or he could have chosen. I believe to have spent more time seeking out military targets that were not in a heavily populated civilian zones. Okay. I do think that his generals and stuff probably influence this decision. Of course. Of course. I mean, I'm just saying ultimately the final. Say, hey, mom. I get that. No. I mean, I hate the atomic bomb to my only problem is you love FDR. He's the one who ever saw the creation of it. And he would have used it. How to live? I it's. Okay. I don't. Well. That's after you are I think I have a lot of respect for his many accomplishments like four terms. Yeah. I mean, that's that's impressive. Look at the end of the day FDR, it's entirely possible might have made the exact same choice that Harry Truman. Did he would've? I doubt it, you know, honestly, when you look at some of his his other ideas about how we would treat Germany coach World War Two. They were pretty scary. And draconian I mean, he there was one of his arguments. I think earlier on was he wanted to essentially bomb them back to the stone age. But you don't okay. So here's the thing. But here's why I love Harry Truman, so goddamn tell me I would love to hear have you heard it before. But I'll tell everyone first of all they're both usually ranked very high Harry Truman. I think when I was looking at these most recent lists. Came into like six I think FDR averaged at five so literally their neck neck. I'm surprised that people like FDR so much after the Japanese interment camps. The fact that he was in office for Tilly literally till he dropped dead. Yeah. But here's my like Harry Truman said so he was FDR's third. Vice president they really didn't know each other, no so much. So that they hardly even spoke. I mean, literally they spoke like once or twice ever. So he picked Harry Truman out of obscurity, probably for some political reason Harry Truman had been had been a very modest Kansas City in P really had been like a failed general store manager. Suddenly he went goes from being a Senator to being vice president. And then goes to the White House is summoned to the White House is told by Eleanor Roosevelt my husband's dead, and he goes, well, I'm sorry. Is there anything I can do for you? And she says, oh, no. Is there anything we can do for you? You're in trouble. Now, he literally had to become president without even any war. I mean, like it's like, oh my gosh. I'm the vice president how crazy is this. I'm president. And then you know, containment of Russia. It was like communism versus capitalism that was handled. Well, plus, he also put really good people around him and just use common sense. And I think that he did a remarkable job in that way for being thrust into it. And I think it was a dereliction of duty of FDR to literally be knocking. It's not like he had a heart attack on the campaign trail and drop dead. He knew he was going to die, and he and no way prepared vice president to take over didn't even tell him that they had been building. This new thing called the comic Bom. But we do have to get it has I want to get all these guys. Let's let's get to it. So everyone's favorite president is Millard Fillmore. Absolutely no, people could never pick him out of a lineup. I probably couldn't. I don't think. I could. Yeah. He was the what the the fifteen thirteen we're going to give her opinions on these guys. But these really are taken from a general spoils of like taking annually by scholars by various, universities and stuff. And these guys are almost always ranked in the bottom cellar-dwelling. So here's a quick recap of who this really guy was number thirteen Millard Fillmore week eighteen fifty to eighteen fifty three fifty years old from New York. Unlucky number thirteen. Millard Fillmore was an accidental president some have called him the Gerald Ford of his day. Considered so unremarkable a Millard Fillmore society used together annually at his gravesite to lamp Woon his forgotten presidency. He was a rather strong president considering the fact that he was a accidental president and not and those presents always have a difficult time establishing their their Mark. Millard Fillmore hadn't even met Zachary Taylor until after they were elected seen as Taylor's opposite Fillmore was picked merely to balance the ticket geographically and politically. Fillmore was a northerner an affable man who was always dressed impeccably. He was a bookworm and a hands off manager. He aim to please. And appease rather than lead. He was a kind of colorless character who believed in compromise deferred to congressional leadership. According to most observers planned friendly willing to make you feel that you had said something important and just generally fitting in. And yet behind this amiable personality lurked Amand with backbone. Bitter feeling overlooked by Taylor's cabinet, fill more fired all of them. Fillmore continued to exert his newfound power by reversing the policy of his predecessor and signing the compromise of eighteen fifty into law. The most. No, I'm in now, and I'm going to change the government's policy. Taylor was all wrong about the compromise of eighteen fifty. Fillmore supported slavery because he believed it's listen would lead to a collapse of the southern economy. Sixty percent of US exports came out of the cotton states by eighteen sixty situa Bala Schleyer was to abolish an economic system. Fillmore also believed that slavery was protected by the constitution and that by signing the compromise. He would somehow put the issue to rest forever. What he failed to grasp where the moral consequences, and he blamed abolitionists for making slavery an issue. He was totally opposed to the abolitionist thought they were troublemakers fanatics. Fillmore was content with the compromise because he thought it would preserve the status quo for some. However, it only served to strengthen their resolve against slavery. By supporting the compromise Fillmore hope to please everyone. But instead he ended up pleasing no-one, including members of his own party. In the election of eighteen fifty to the Whigs wouldn't renominated. So Phil Moore went home to buffalo leaving behind one of the most forgettable presidencies in American history. Millard Fillmore my man what an exciting guy so an accidental president. So as I mentioned Zachary Taylor, they hadn't met until they were elected. That is really crazy. What I mean? Yeah. I mean, I also one has to think I mean, you know, that's a product of the times they lived in. Well, I know that like way back, you know, in times of Hamilton and Jefferson and whatnot. The vice president was just whoever lost. Yeah. Which is crazy as well. Can you imagine vice-president Hillary Clinton this motherfucker getting a prize for actually that'd be great? That would be in this nation. That would be great. So Miller Fillmore his big problem was he backed that compromise of eighteen fifty which allowed slavery spread that was his big otherwise he was just he tried to. Appease everyone could appease anyone he thought that slavery ending slavery would cause the southern economy to collapse that was his thinking with each of these presidents. I want to understand the thinking behind their horrible decisions. Right. He believes it was protected by the constitution slavery. Now. How could he possibly an expert in the constitution? But it would be really hard to convince me that that was somehow written in there or that. There's anything could have been construed as. Oh, yes. Slavery protected. Yeah. It's actually, you know, I it's interesting because when you look at American politics, you know, up to this day, there's this constant battle between the idea of America. As is forward thinking in a free society and also. This strong connection to our roots it, which is so much strong respect for our founding fathers, and you know, I have a lot of respect for the founding fathers, but they were also product of their times. And it's always interesting to me when people look back and say, well, you know, this isn't how they intended the country to be run on like, well, of course, this shit in the seventeen seventies. People's ideas of how the world worked were so far removed from our own day were smart enough to know that yet. That's why we are. That's why there are amendment. Yeah. Why it's built into that? You can make changes to the system as times change these fucking people and some of them like originalists like Antonin Scalia. Who cares? What you know what they meant. Exactly when this was ratified in seventeen ninety one times have changed, and they most most I don't wanna say all ever, but most of the founding fathers worse smart enough to know that times would chain. You know, like, I I guess there's this. Sentiment that, you know, the the principals in the beliefs that led to the creation of of this nation were so strongly guided we're we're so so morally right to stray in any way from that they weren't deviate again that that's just an idea that obviously some people have you know, that that sort of we created this country, and it was this beautiful concept, and I would agree with that. Yeah. But, but that you know, that you don't want to stray away from that because any deviation leads to some sort of moral decay. I, you know, I, yeah. But that's the sticking to the general spirit of the fill in the blank is one thing. But I'm talking about people who are like, well, the second amendment says this this this totally misinterpreted, by the way. Yeah. So they're talking about sticking to the original. Meaning of every word when they clearly I'm thinking very specific type of person right now when I talk about the second. But you know, what I mean because there's other people when the trying to use that for anything, you know, like integration segregation. They did all that stuff. You know women warranty really included in the fourteenth amendment. I mean like it had to 'cause there's no mention of gender. Yeah. I mean change is always scary. For some people, you know, the idea of moving away from the guiding principles of a nation. So or sometimes just straight up races. Like, yes, then there's always that element to it. Like some of these presidents. We're gonna find out. It is interesting to me the comment about him blaming abolitionists for making slavery and issue because they were raising. They were raising hell about it. It just it just I it speaks the idea that you would think slavery is not an issue just because someone's not complaining about it says a lot about okay. So, and I I don't know if I mentioned this. But a lot of these horrible presidents that we're celebrating today came around the time of ABRAHAM LINCOLN, which I think is interesting. Yeah. It's actually because right. We've got your Johnson will Fillmore was thirteen next up who got Franklin Pierce at number. He was the he was the fourteenth president. He just happens to be next as well. So let's hear a little bit about him. It was eighteen fifty two and the tenuous strands of the compromise of eighteen fifty were barely holding the nation together. Franklin Pierce appeared to be the perfect feel-good candidate. He was a northern democrat with strong ties to the south. Voters in both regions thought pierced would bring balance and peace to the nation. He was known by everybody. Everybody knew everybody liked him. That's how he got to begin with. There was anybody who didn't like him. Number fourteen. Franklin Pierce democrat eighteen fifty three to eighteen fifty seven forty eight years old from New Hampshire. Franklin Pierce was practically handed the presidency because he was offensive to no one he would leave office reviled by all here's terrible timings radish life, even timing. When he got like, the president was was poor. Everybody called him handsome, Frank the word that was used often in describing was elegant extremely outgoing very charismatic leaving people didn't like him felt he was wonderfully charming and your person. Pierce was well known as a man about town the social and political butterfly sorts with a pension for drinking often to excess. Being involved in politics meant being in taverns, meant slapping, people on the back, buying them, a drink and the drinking culture in America. The storm was enormous. I mean when scholars follow that the alcoholic Republic. Whether alcohol it is hard to to judge today. But he probably was they were times in this life. However, when he did not drink, and when he alcohol did not seem to play an important role life, and that includes the time he was present. By all accounts appears managed to stay sober during his presidency. But some believe he was not emotionally stable because of a terrible personal tragedy. He suffered just weeks after his election. Fierce his wife, Jane and their son. Benny were in a train wreck. Here's his wife for unscathed. Their eleven year old son was killed. Top of his head literally been taken off. Right in front of his parents Franklin Pierce grabbed his cloak and threw it over benny's potty, hoping Jane wouldn't see it. But she did. Of course, was a terrible tragedy to them. Pierce and his wife had already lost two other children to disease. Benny was the last surviving child to have your remaining sign the light of your life. Benny killed in front of your eyes in a train accident who can imagine the horror that that would instill in any way. Added to Pierce's troubles was the death of his vice president William Rufus king six weeks after the inauguration. And things were about to get worse. Early in eighteen fifty four Pierce received a visit from members of his own party, including Illinois Senator Stephen a Douglas, Douglas informed Pierce. He was sponsoring a Bill called the Kansas. Nebraska act. The Kansas is one of the key moments in all of American political history. The act was designed to repeal the Missouri compromise of eighteen twenty which banned slavery in states above the southern border of Missouri. The intent was to let the new territories of Kansas and Nebraska, both north of the boundary decide for themselves if they wanted slavery or not. Douglas promise to make Pierce's presidency living nightmare. If Pierce didn't support the scheme. The president should have said no opening a can of worms a hornet's nest. But no pierces week PS can be bullied and Douglas forces in basically say, okay, the administration will support this 'em, so Pierce, basically, caved into them. And as a consequence most of the northern Democrats in the Senate and exactly half of annoy Democrats in the house supported the Bill, and that was just enough to get it through congress. In the north just went berserk over this Bill. They went ballistic. Among the outrage was a little known politician from Illinois, ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Lincoln was so angered by the blatant pro slavery act that he helped create a radical new political party. All right. That's about as noth- as we know. So his fatal flaw was he was a whim. I mean, the fact that a Stephen Douglas, a Senator could come and be like us on a yogurt of support this or we will make your I will make your presidency miserable. And he was just like, okay. Like, I'd say you get the fuck out of here. I mean, he says Senator first of all you don't be pushed around like that number one number two. This was a horrible idea. It was basically imposing slavery on areas. Where we some were we didn't know if they would want it some we knew they didn't want it. So it was going to piss everybody off. He didn't have any any gumption. Yeah. That's it's it's hard for me to understand how he was ever president. Well, I can see how someone like that would be elected in the first place, right because those being affable and charming and sociable, and you know, as he said, there is a drinking culture, and he was a part of it. So obviously a really likable guy, which I actually think it is a huge issue. We have with the way that we elect our officials because it's not it's often the reason that people vote and the things we elect people for I it's not about the actual issues. It's a popularity contest. I mean, we see this all the time. We certainly are seeing recently where the you mean like when George Bush, well like to have a beer with them. Well, sure. Yeah, exactly, you know. And if you're if you're an affable friendly candidate that's going to go along ways because of the way that we campaign, and we present the issues to people, and I understand that it's hard wasn't the same back, then, but you have three hundred million people in the country right now, not all of them are going to be able to pour through. All the issues and make educated decisions about why they want this person over that person. Yes. But so what you end up doing is is you know, you played to the lowest common denominator, and you just present very simple strong message. Again, that's one way to do it. You can be charismatic and now going in like doing the slap and people in the bags of and not be a complete worthless. Moron. Sure. Yeah. There you can do both. And I have to bring this up. Just because I like to be controversial what I think JFK is a great example of a president who was elected largely because of his looks his looks his charm, his appeal his family guy. I mean that played a part, but he was smart. He went to Harvard and Stanford served in the navy was a war hero was a congressman. I'm not fully convinced that he was a very good president. Why we didn't really get to see much? Much until his head got blown up. Well, for me, the big thing is the Cuban missile crisis. I it certainly ended. Well, I we're still here. His generals were telling him this to start a nuclear conflict the thing with the Cuban missile crisis. At least the way that I have heard the story told it's there were multiple options presented to him. And he was not in a state of mind where he was able to pick one of those options when you see on the state of mind, you just indecisive or drunk decisive and on medication for his back. Yeah. And willie. Let's be clear about that. He had lifelong medical issues. Yeah. But Franklin Pierce. How do you feel about the fact that he lost his son months or weeks into his presidency that horrible story we run back to the? Yeah. I mean that. I have real sympathy for him. I can't you know, I cannot even imagine what it would be like to suffer a loss like that. And while you're in a position of authority, and you have to show up to work every day. But you do and make of course, that's the thing. Him from his Abe Lincoln his whole life is tragedy truly he lost all of his kids except for one. Yeah. In childhood in one group to be eighteen. That's not old. Yeah. I mean any in a psycho wife. You're also, you know, you're looking Abe Lincoln, obviously, a remarkable individual remarkable visual. But also severed with you know, he and a lot of he was gloomy at times, they say he was really melancholy he'd suffered probably from clinical, depression, if we had those if, you know diagnose back, then, but also knits not just the fact that you like he's an outcast in terms of like, his achievements. He's also an anomaly in terms of losing so many kids being married to the psychopath like truly married Todd was a nightmare. Yeah. I mean from what we've from what I've read and he was leading at a time of real importance the civil war. He had to end the civil war. Yeah. I actually think you know, certain individuals have a disposition that allows them to fight through tragedy and often those are the kinds of people who are rise to the level rise to a certain level. And you know, if you're fortunate enough that they happen to be in power at a time like that are able to step up to the plate. Abraham lincoln. Is a great example. And then he was murdered. And it was still an important time. And we're not gonna listen to the whole thing about his successor. But he is next unless he's usually among the top three horrible presidents, Andrew Johnson. I mean, he's called one of the most racist presents we've ever had up there. Andrew Jackson, totally totally fucked up reconstruction, you've gave the south a pass, basically when they were they were a defeated people. They were ready to take whatever we gave them. And he was like he was a sympathizer with the south gave the freed slaves. No protection. He also like his first while in office. He told congress, you know, like, yeah, we'll work. This all together. You guys have nice break. They went on break. He put together his own plan for reconstruction. And when they got back he said, it's done off truly man a mission and Thaddeus Stevens. I don't know if they weren't seeing the movie Lincoln, but he was played by Tommy Lee Jones. He was a hardcore motherfucker he was not happy with this. And he wasn't having it. That's why Andrew. They actually created. I think it was like the I can't remember what it was called. It was like the tenure of office act saying you can't like you can't fire anyone from your cabinet without congressional approval. Which is crazy, but they they enacted that he fired someone who is a Lincoln holdover, and they impeached him you barely he barely escaped Senate conviction and thrown out one vote, but he was horrible. He was true. Unlike Lincoln who has told stories and try to would talk to anybody Stephen Douglas, who is the guy who actually made that threat to Franklin Pierce, the famous Lincoln, Douglas debates that fucker was you know, look into it power. And he was he was not a nice guy Lincoln dealt with him. That's the thing you have to be able to deal with people and Johnson did had no interest in that. He is a real recluse. Racist. Now one thing I will give him credit for he never tended a day of school in his life. You believe he taught himself out of read, which that's impressive. I don't even understand that self taught individual. How could you teach yourself to read down get? Well, I mean, you know, I can't even teach yourself like what what do you you had access to specific these he group in a log cabin. Exactly. So sort of had to I mean, again, you were talking about remarkable individuals, and obviously not a great president. But clearly a man who's very driven and ambitious and able to achieve things you know, what I will put it Lincoln's fault. Why was he ever vice president? Well, it probably was because at the time he seemed like a good. No it was early. It was purely political reason exactly. But that's why you pick a vice president not always. I mean like, they couldn't have been more different. I mean like, yeah. You know, like, okay, look at okay. So John F Kennedy picked LBJ as vice president because first of all they found it out for the nomination number one. But they were at least members of the same party in kind of like. Kind of ideals and whatnot. And they're ideologically they would out them. Totally different. Yeah. Texan versus Massachusetts northerner and whatnot, but win Kennedy died in LBJ took over it was pretty much very similar. You know, the Civil Rights Act continued to be fought for you know, it wasn't like this win thinkin died. Suddenly this guy comes in and he's like a southern sympathizer, which didn't make any sense because I don't think he was actually southerner. Not that I'm aware of moving. Okay. Is Warren g Harding. He was the twenty ninth president the funny thing about him is he died. He wasn't Pesident long and his reputation was destroyed after he died here. We'll learn a little bit about him. We're learning a lot. You're listening to the next best thing on Radio Free Brooklyn, by the way, and we're discussing the best horrible presence with ever had warned g Harding. But nineteen twenty Americans were tired of war abroad and progressive programs at home, the high minded rhetoric Woodrow Wilson had lost its appeal. The country was in a conservative move. Number twenty nine Warren, g Harding Republican nineteen twenty one to nineteen twenty three fifty five years old from Ohio. Warren Harding is the only president to be elected on his birthday in his successful campaign. He touted a return to normalcy. We're not gonna do anything big vicious. We're going to create a period in which things are quiet and calm. A former newspaperman Harding was the seventh president board in the state of Ohio. No one ever accused him of being cold fish. He was an extrovert a gambler a drinker and allegedly a womanizer. He also played the Susa phone. Want to be around people like glad-hand slot people in the back. That's actually a rather valuable political skill. Harding has been portrayed as someone who wasn't fit to be president elect intellect and ambition people will say that he didn't want to be president or that. He didn't have the self confidence to do it. He did want to be president. He was savvy man, and his politics, and he did have a very strong sense for what he wanted to accomplish Harding wasn't the type of president who thought he had all the answers. Mr. hurting said that he was inviting the best minds into the cabinet it, very real sense. This was the case. His secretary of state was Charles Evans Hughes who was a distinguished, man. His secretary Herbert Hoover. This was a good cabinet. Harding's most important achievement was the budget and accounting act of nineteen twenty one. Past Harding's, urging it gave the executive branch greater control over federal spending. And for the first time in history required. The president to submit an annual budget to congress. Harding, scored the other great successes presidency. When he convened an international conference in Washington, the resulted in an historic arms reduction agreement between the naval powers of the world, the Washington naval conference was the only serious arms limitation arrangement that was made in the twenties and thirties that was Mr. Harding. In the summer of nineteen Twenty-three. Harding took a train trip west becoming the first sitting president to visit Alaska. But his health was failing. On July twenty ninth. He arrived at the palace hotel in San Francisco and checked into the presidential suite to recuperate. Four days later with his wife Florence at his bedside the president suffered a heart attack. Florence pleaded with the doctors to save him. But it was too late. Harding was dead. Those people who have any of Harding at all remember him as a kind of joke at certainly failure Bihar for such people to understand the enormity of the response to Harding's death. It would be short-lived period of grief and reverence less than a year after his death. Several scandals came to light that forever, shattered, Harding's image. The most significant scandal involved. Harding secretary of the interior Albert full. He was accused of improperly leasing navy oil reserves at elk Hills, California and teapot dome in Wyoming to a pair of wealthy oilmen in exchange for an illegal kickback. Teapot dome as the affair came to be known was the most infamous presidential scandal prior to Watergate, I don't know if any evidence that Harding actually was complicit in these scandals that he personally benefited from them, but he certainly was guilty of appointing mediocre. Not very honest people very significant positions Harding's reputation was further. Tarnished by the publishing of two scandalous books. One whatever. Yeah. People wrote books about her he cheated on his wife. He had a lot of extramarital affairs, and he was totally corrupt. So so this is actually an interesting argument, you know, sort of what what does or doesn't make a great president versus a great individual because the arms reduction agreement that was something that was important. Yeah. No. I mean, the idea of a return to normalcy after a period of high instability. So he was number twenty nine twenty eight Wilson Woodrow was it. Okay. When he was literally incapacitated. Yeah. So the thing the thing that I always because you look at presidents who have gone through scandals Bill Clinton, right? Greg sample of a president who you can judge by his his moralities scandal was that one that was a personal slice scandal. This there was the extramarital affairs. But also he had a he put corrupt people in his cabinet. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So like with with Bill Clinton really bothers me because the only big scandal that they had was the fair when you didn't affect politics at all. Well, the argument that people make I kind of disagree with this argument. They argue that people make is is you cannot be a good president. If you are in immoral human will Republicans say that until they get caught, you know, giving blow job, but I think a lot of people feel that way. And I think so too isn't extent. I think you have to have some kind of moral core and be person. Sure. But I also think, you know, at the end of the day politics are separate from your personal integrity. It is a job. Yes. So being president as the job of being president is to protect the country. Yes. To you know, deal with foreign leaders to me, no make create trade deals like NAFTA and whatnot. You know, what else is job being a professional baseball player. If that guy has had six wives, and is actually gay whatever not gonna affect how good he is on the baseball. Exactly. Yeah. So so yes now when you look at like Harding when it's infecting his cabinet or Nixon by the time like as Watergate was really totally overtaking him. He was like wandering the White House talking to portrait's, you know, like drunk. Yeah. No. That's not good. A lot of times. I think these people's scandals. Dr to their ability to to perform the job if there's truth to them. I mean, I used to saying, you know, like, like, Monica Lewinsky thing. Yeah. That was very stressful in history off. But even you know. Yeah, it was true. But again that is not that is a personal exactly. And that's that's what I'm saying. Like icy that I personally see that as separate from his career as president. You know, I look at at what he achieved as a president. And I'd rather judge that separate from what he chose to do his personal life as much as I obviously not thrilled by his personal choices. Yeah. I just think you have to have some kind of separation between your professional in. Individual unless they overlap overlap. Yes. And certainly, there are cases I think also part of being president is that you have to present a certain moral core. So that your people feel like they're being led by someone who is should be real. Here's the thing. So if someone chooses to do something like, what Nixon was, you know, like, yeah. Like actually chooses to participate in this scheme to like break in and kind of Nixon's case the scandal is political. But it's also I'm talking about just the okay, let's say he chose to be in on the scheme to rob a quickie mart. You know, anything like that choosing to create again and steal stuff. Yeah. Is different than choosing to accept a blow job. Do. You know what I mean? Like like people make these mistake. I don't know. Like when I when I see someone choose to, you know, like money launder or tax evasion or something that's chosing to commit a crime. But when it come. Into someone's personal like sexual stuff. It's like, I don't condone cheating. But like, I know a lot of people who have cheated. I mean, I think in his case there is also the extra element of it's not just cheating with someone you met at the park while on a run. I mean, you're cheating with your intern at the White House win the same people who judge him for that. And then twenty years later trying blame Hillary for that how moral is that? No. I mean, there's all horse shit. Well, it's easy to take a moral stance. When you already disagree with someone. Right. If you disagree with someone's politics, you can easily look at them and say, oh, you did this this thing in your private life. And that makes you a terrible person. And I was right along and it's easy to forgive. But you know, I mean that that's that's just common knowledge you want to like someone or you don't. Yes, very easy. I was a huge fan of of President Obama. I really respect him as visual. But if it came out that he was selling fraudulent smarts memorabilia that would affect how I think of him it really will. But it would also I can speak for myself and. I I I don't want to speak for you. But like, I know that it would be easier for me to find a way to forgive him. Then it would be for me to find. If that exact same scenario was let's say. George W Bush who I'm not a huge fan of it would be a lot easier for me to look at him and say, oh, well, you know, but yet I get what you're saying. But I don't see it as like it'd be easier for me to forget like if I found out, and it was it was undeniable Brock Obama had a side business of selling fraudulent sports memorabilia what business. Well, it was like I do not gonna think that's a I can't be like. Well, it's okay to sell fake sportsman the memorabilia, I hold firm to that. I don't think I could justify it. Now, if it came out like he actually wasn't doing that. Like this hoping Ghazi thing will you forgive Benghazi. Well, that's because what you think when you say Ghazi didn't happen because there's all these false equivalences. You know what I mean? Yeah. So like Hillary was not scheduled to be standing guard there that night, and that's what they act like it's not so much what you can forgive who you like or don't like it's what you make up. Yeah. But that's, but that's always based in personal bias, right? And I mean you look at it today. We talk so much about you know, what is or isn't fake news. A lot of that judgment is based on what you already want to believe. Now, obviously, there are sites that you can easily look at it and say, okay, this is clearly there's more empirical evidence to prove that they have some basis in factual truth, but it's hard to determine what absolute truth is. And so your bias is always going to affect which sources you choose to believe over others and slight variations in a story can affect whether you think someone's actions were really morally reprehensible or morally questionable, but excusable. Yeah. You know, it's funny because I have to be honest with you like for everything we said about engine Johnson, grossly racist stuff. Yeah. I think that I think his impeachment was got, dammit. I'm so worked up about this. No, it was complete and utter horse shit to come up with that tenure of office act, which is just nonsense and impose it in the middle of his presidency. Yeah. That was the kind of radical change that you would want to enact they did that in retaliation for what he did. Yeah. It's it's a it's an act of spite. But I'm just saying I recognized that that was horse shit. Yeah. He was a horrible president. He was a horrible probably human. But that impeachment was bullshit. Bill Clinton kind of speaks to the question of of you have a system that set up to allow in individual to have a certain degree of power in a certain amount of time and assuming there's been fiddling with with the voting. You believe that they have the the the the will of the people he would act their changes. We'll he wasn't elected. I know in his case. But but the system allows for vice president to take charge after so technically speaking, right? He was the person that we had chosen as like, okay? This is our second guy, right? You know? So it's like if if you in the moment realize oh God. This is going horribly wrong is it within the rights of congress to in the moment will quickly cut. The course they didn't have the twenty fifth amendment. Then they didn't. They didn't listen. Yeah. So no, they really had no recourse other than to create this thing. I don't know. I just think that unless it's a imminent emergency. Like now. Yeah. We can talk about that in a minute. Be there before we get to Donald Trump. I wanna skip ahead George W Bush on this list, but we're gonna skip him because people know about him I wanna get to who is constantly until now I think consistently on every list I've ever read ranked the worst president effort. You know, it is I have no idea. James beacon, number fifteen. Okay. So again, right before ABRAHAM LINCOLN. I'm detecting a pattern here in terms of the time period. All the president's just before in right after ABRAHAM LINCOLN will Harding Bush and Nixon clearly there there is a time period in which there were a number of presidents who reviewed well. I very negatively I could see why the ones after him would be but all the ones leading up to him. Well, I mean, I obviously we'll hear about about began in. But I'm going to assume that once again slavery is going to be one of the defining issues, which makes it is to this day, one of the most problematic aspects of our country that that it existed and that we continue to feel its repercussions. You the first president to really get the ball rolling on civil rights was wasn't. It is Harry Truman. He was. He was he was is in Howard. Our he's from Kansas. To by the way. Yeah. I know you're probably right. The ball was probably very true. And he was when he said that race and something else couldn't job discriminate, which was the very, you know, early step. But that kind of got the ball rolling with the sixties. Yeah. You gotta start somewhere. You gotta start somewhere. Okay. So James Buchanan, this poor son of a bit. Let's hear about them number fifty James Buchanan, democrat eighteen fifty seven to eighteen sixty one sixty five years old from Pennsylvania. Buchanan is often ranked at or near the bottom in these polls to determine the best in the worst of the American presidents. I think the reason that he's often raided near or at the bottom is because actions that he took his presidency. Probably hasten the coming civil war. He did fail. But I think he failed integrity. And I think he needs to be given credit for at least try I think that he should be maligned. But we've got to get it. Right. Really what he deserves his last place braiding for is near treason. James Buchanan, was one of the most politically accomplished presidents America has ever had. He had been congressman foreign minister Senator and secretary of state. What he achieved in life was due to hard work and a fist idioms nature. He would stay up late at night to attend. The smallest of details. Buchanan was different in another way. He never married and is often referred to as America's only bachelor president. They are folks in the United States who say that James cannon is our first homosexual president. The allegation arose from the intimate friendship. He had shared with Franklin Pierce 's vice president William Rufus king a man he had lived with for sixteen years. There really is not a lot of hard evidence there three or four mansions at the time of Buchanan and his wife or Nancy. These two men are aunt Nancy's. Now, what part of circle of dandies. And. The certainly was some sense in this group of men that they were having homosexual relations very hard to make any determination about something. Like that even about someone living today, let alone someone living in the eighteen fifties. Cannon had his charming niece, Harriet lane serve as his White House hostess since Harriet wasn't Buchanan's wife. She was called the first lady a term coined to describe her role. While Harriet presided over social life at the White House Buchanan presided over a house rapidly dividing. His decision to endorse. The constitution written by the pro. Slavery settlers in Kansas made Buchanan appear to be a supporter of the south and a traitor to the north. The idea that the president would try to force slavery into territory where it's clear that a majority of the settlers don't want it completely discredits his administration in the eyes of large numbers of northern is including northern Democrats. Not just Republicans everything that James you can and does for the last part of his administration is so pro southern that he does not do in the classic presidential oath. Preserve, and defend and protect the United States. Ultimately Buchanan's management of the battle in Kansas. Did nothing to settle the slavery issue. It only made it worse slavery couched in the mantra of states rights was now the defining issue in the historic election of eighteen sixty. November six eighteen sixty ABRAHAM LINCOLN was elected president. It was now only a matter of months before the south would lose its ally in the White House. Into submission of an anti slavery. President South Carolina seated from the union on December twentieth. Eighteen sixty. As a lame duck, president James Buchanan denied the legality of secession. But didn't do anything to stop it. Was he being weak at that moment and indecisive probably was he scared to death. Certainly did you have a sense that this was an incredibly dangerous moment. Definitely. Within weeks? Six more states left the union and eight slaveholding states sat on the fence becoming border states. February ninth eighteen sixty one the confederate states of America now composed of seven states elected Jefferson Davis as their new president. One month later Buchanan's presidency came to an end tremendously relieved to set aside the burden of office and handed over to Lincoln. On his last day Buchanan said Lincoln if you were as happy to be entering the presidency. As I am to be leaving it, and you are a very happy, man. How witty was that he really redeemed himself with that one. Let's say points on the out. So when John Quincy Adams became president, his father wrote him note, that's his father John Adams who had been president. And wrote him a note that said no friend would wish the presidency on any friend of his. So basically we have a trend here. Yeah. Even Donald Trump was asked in like a forum at liberty university or something if you could go back in time and into your twenty five year old self give some advice. What would it be don't run for president? I don't think people really enjoy being president. It's a horrible job. Yeah. I know there's no I think the I mean the whole point is to be miserable. No, the whole point is it's to serve right? I mean, obviously, there's a lot of appeal. Yes. Let's discuss James. We can sure. So because he really has considered the worst. Now. He yeah. So the heard that women say. Near treason, but you saw treason in terms of the south United States. You know what I mean? Well, it sounded to me like maybe what she was implying was that he was guilty of treason for not protecting protecting the United States United states as as a pole. Yes. Yeah. Worse would be not protecting that states from. I don't know Rasha. I'm serious. I mean, that's a whole nother herbs. How cool is it that we've had a gay president too bad? He was the worst ever. I mean, really that's not fully convinced that that's not a factor in some people dislike him so much. Your home. That is the complete opposite. They listed there reasons. He was you know, he. Yes, he had. No, look, I mean, sure, no spine. Okay. So I think it's really easy to look at someone in hindsight who is living in a moment. That is unprecedented. Right. I mean, I I mean, there's there's no you can't fall back on any prior experience, right leg. Visit never happened before the country was Lee itself apart. And now, I'm not I'm not excusing this guy. But I don't know. We've had like think about our history. You know, starting with Washington we were a literally a baby country. Yeah. We had to get off our feet and like that was a difficult time. I'm sure. Yeah. Washington wasn't was another extrordinary individual. Yeah. Okay. We had World War wine roller to the civil war war of eighteen twelve. Yeah. We've had Vietnam which did not go. No not handled. Well, again, going back to JFK just to remind him. The reason we had troops on the ground. You know, what it visors? You're just a southern I I love hating on JFK. I want to point out though. So we've mentioned these literally with the exception of GW be who we all know why he's included. He's included because the war in Iraq. We started very expensive started under false pretenses. Yeah. I would include the especially after seeing the movie vice you really understand the he was totally subservient to his vice president, which is never good. I mean, Dick Cheney was oh. The guy in the shadows behind that government one thing to point out the okay Miller Fillmore Franklin Pierce Johnson. They were all horrible presidents for reasons, you know, whether it was a compromise of eighteen fifty being bullied into the Kansas Nebraska act, something like that big decisions that had bad, you know, consequences, but they all kind of you know, tried, and they are, you know, like, James Buchanan. Terrible president. But he had been secretary of state Senator. He he was smart he stayed up really late trying to learn stuff. Yeah. In go. Well that leads us to today. And it's just I just want to point out kind of the difference. My whole life has been about winning. I'm not I'm not like so many other people that you talked to that are essentially losers. Okay. You take a look at her. She's a slob she talks like a like a truck driver. People are soft and weak, and frankly, stupid and incompetent. I'd like to take some money out of her fat ass. Pockets to Senator is nothing. I like to see people fail. Rosie is a loser. The I mean I'd look at right in that fed ugly. Face vers, you fired. Certain people are zeros. You are stupid. Yeah. It like it is. Yeah. I mean, there's no there's no I mean, we are we talking about try. Whoa. Is that what we're doing? Well, you talk about being an unprecedented time. Yeah. Seriously. I just can't get over it like where we did this emerged. We're gonna take this go to the district. We'll get about ruling have that rule. It's like what are you talking about? But look, I I kind of want to go back to you know, I had briefly mentioned how we how the system is designed in terms of the campaigning. Yeah. That this was it is this is an unprecedented scenario we're in. But I'm not that surprised honestly because we really up units by what by the fact that we somehow manage to elect this individual edgy. Well, okay. He didn't win the popular vote by three million a lot. Also, like the electoral college has been around for a while. Like, right. The issue of it hasn't been around for a long time. Let's hear meddling from other countries and us just kind of be like sure, I mean, I we won't know. Well, we know until we do here's what we do know is let's say even with any meddling taken out of the equation election was one on a razor thin margin closer than any ever. I mean, we're talking about like thirty thousand votes in Michigan. So we know that in terms of numbers. We also know that there was Russian bots and stuff putting up Facebook ads being like Hillary runs child. Pedophile ring in this pizza shop. Now, if you see an like that what effect does it have any do you even remember it who knows going your subconscious or whatever people see that might have the most subtle non noticeable influence might have. Have a lot you might some people might say it'd be like what he's doing God. And I think that plays into what I'm saying. Which is vote we vote for people who appeal to very basic arguments and instincts. But how could he have appeal to anybody based on what he was saying look at his follower base? I mean there when he gets them riled up. They become rapid. There are people who really truly believe his very and he uses such generic language. No not generic. It's very like that bringing drugs. They're rapists. No bit. Yes. But he he creates these broad categories. And then he sort of changes his message. And I mean, the whole make America great again. I mean that what what does that mean? What specifically are you saying you will do aside from your wall that again there were there were no specifics of what that will actually was going to be your who's going to pay for it was specific about he's Mexico? Oh, but you know, we'll know changed. But that's the thing though. He said in Mexico's going to pay for that wall that was specific. No. But again that is generic comments because he's not the point the point that I'm trying to make is is as you know, someone who I would like to believe how to good education and try to I try to approach issues. Intellectually, I have never really understood. Why are politicians I understand it? But it bothers me that our politicians try to appeal to our base emotions by making just very strong comments about what they're going to do and what they care about. But don't actually discuss the specifics of why those issues are important and how they're going to fix the games are not asked about it. The media doesn't that exactly? Because our entire because we don't care because what we want is the little bite sized chunk of how you're gonna make everything amazing again. And you're going to be the best person ever. You don't actually have to prove that you know, what you're talking about. Or you have a plan for all the things you intend. I do. Sure he couldn't have anyway. Exactly. And if we forced our candidates to actually present cohesive plans. Ernie. Couldn't have done it either. Sorry. Maybe not honestly. No it did by remember like because I was kind of drawn to some of Bernie Sanders arguments. I mean, I have oddly socialist-leaning Tennessee's, but I did get frustrated because I remember, you know, his campaign, and we're talking about all the billionaires and the billionaires and the bid, but I was like, okay. But what what specifically are you going to do to change that situation? And I think he just used again, it was a very populist message of rise up and will overcome it. But how who like when it's like free college. Okay. I like culture and how. No. And also, how'd you actually implement because there are logistical challenges? You know who did have plans? Hillary. What were they they were out there? No one cared. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. So when you say that, you know, they didn't present them. It's because people's attention spans are so short and incredibly low. Yeah. Yeah. And like make America great again that is that is a direct implication that you want to go backwards. You know, America was great at isn't. Now. Let's go back to be it the nineties eighties. Fifties doesn't matter going backwards. Well, we I think we touched earlier on the idea of this conflict between the idea of America's this forward moving forward thinking nation, but also that is so drawn to this idealized version of our roots. You know in its traditional American values, which there's an appeal to that. But also, you're ignoring the truth that traditional American values existed in a time when people had hopefully, very different ideas. But when we traditional like that could be taken as having a family unit and having the American dream could also be taken as rampant racism exit. We'll know exactly. But that's that's the thing is you're ignoring the reality of what traditional American values war because you're choosing to see the city on the hill and all the good side. And the reality is I mean, we were and are in imperfect nation because there's no such thing as a perfect country where you've got everything right? And that's why over time you constantly try to improve change. What's what's sad is that even before twenty sixteen every campaign democrat Republican Ross Perot, they each they all spun their message to. Optimistic that shining city on a hill. That was what people loved about. Ronald Reagan was his kind of delusional picture of America as everything's perfect and hopeful and bright, and yet, you know, his policies were hardly that you know, what I mean like that did not the Reaganomics trickle down that was hardly putting people in all people in a position of pope and perfection. But, but at least there was that idea with with Trump American-carnage, nobody I alone can fix. It was always a message of like, oh, my God, invasion of the Mexicans. Yeah. Rapists, you know, making fun of people. Yeah. I saw all these people celebrating nine eleven horsh it. It's like, I mean, negativity negativity and fear sell very easily yourselves. But like, usually the hope and change thing when I say hope and change people. Think of Obama. Yeah. Bill Clinton had that same slow. I mean, like hope and change is not a new campaign slogan. Like what also when you look at our past. It's never imperfect, and it's always been kind of slow moving progression. Yeah. But like we have at while we've had to drag some people kicking and screaming like George Wallace standing than there on Alabama campus blocking integration physically literally blocking. Yeah. But eventually schools were integrated like all this, you know, all the religious, right and gay marriage, and God hates facts and stuff. Well, now marriage equality is the thing. Yeah. This I've never seen such a clear thing of like from Obama to where we are now of like not just coming to a halt, but truly moving backwards in. It is kind of scary. It's such a strong reaction. I, you know. Obama. I always viewed him as something of a mediator. He always seemed to be. I mean, obviously as very strong message of hope and change and leftist ideas, but also seems very well suited to trying to bridge a gap between the two parties you wanted to do that. They wouldn't let him know exactly. The reaction was so visceral, and so strong, and now, you know, the pendulum swings in the complete opposite direction. Mitch mcconnell. He went out there and said we need to president. Speaking of like, you know, we were talking about Dick Cheney being the actual Mitch McConnell. What he that? I for anyone who's a fan of his that, man. I think is the devil. But he's so worthless. All he really does is. It's like he doesn't seem to do anything enable or obstruct Trump he obstructed, which is frightening because he's actually a really smart so individual. Well, no. Here's the thing. It was like Trump is Trump scary. Yes. Sure. Do. I get him. Yeah. Trump is really just in it for himself, and he'll do whatever it takes in the moment to feel good about himself. I mean, that's you know, it's classic narcissism. Mitch mcconnell. The extent of my knowledge is is sound of mind. Yeah. He used to say for the he was for civil rights. It's just that he has chosen for some reason to stance that he's taken which is. Yeah, he's he wants to be obstructionist or an enabler. The fact. This out and said that like declared Nelson merged would not be a good thing. I will support him. Who are you? What is the point of view? Yeah. I mean, really you you know, this period, whether it is in twenty twenty or twenty twenty four or twenty thirty eight who knows boy. Yeah. Like, we'll end eventually, and this will be looked back on and what are you going to remembered for? Yeah. You're going to be removed for letting this happen. Yeah. I mean, this I think regardless of the direction that we take a country. It'll be fascinating to see what that direction is. There's no way to not look at this. As the breaking point of what would America USA, at least think it stood for and represent and the direction we're going to go in. I mean, you know, this is Red Path of divergence. It's it's it's frightening and exciting time caged animal, Trump are McConnell Trump. Trump mcconnell. His tweets his tweet every day. All all caps is the worst SNL. They can't get away with this. Oh, yes. In the comedy police. What are you talking tweet as pathologically narcissistic rethinking he says? And does. His intense desire to be noticed. And to be noticed. He's the president. No. Yeah. That's how he got there. I mean, the man is is is a wack job, mentally unstable. But just unstable like this is becoming a real like psychosis type thing. Yeah. Like when it gets worse and worse every day. I mean, you see the fact that like he's a Fateh. He's clinically obese now. And yet he has atomic don's coming out to be like he's president ever. Yeah. How could he be so fucking how he's obese? You can't be and be again, it's, but why are they saying it why other people saying it? I there is some people are jests certain people are zeros. But anytime you have a cult of personality, you look at the individual that that cult revolves around, and they're not usually I mean, they're never sound of mine they are able to surround themselves with yes-men with saikin's who boost them up because when you see someone star is rising, and they're an individual that somehow people are drawn to because of their careers are not I'm just gonna call it charisma that you you are able aid to light yourself about who you are. But you're also able to convince the people around you that you are what you say you are because they know that if they don't say that their jobs and lives are at stake. That's scary about it. You know, it's fascinating. Because there's there's fighting flight. Right. And we all know about that. But I was talking to a mutual friend of ours. Interesting. There's actually two other actions. I don't remember what all the definitions were. But one is submission. And that if you watch footage, I don't know why I've seen all this. But if you watch what people being taken out to be shot. Oh, yeah. They don't run. They don't fight. They just quietly walk, and they get on their knees when they're told and they make they don't make a peep their shot in the back of the head. And it's just, you know, and that's an extreme example. But there is a human tendency to go, and you feel overwhelmed by something when you just think this hopeless. Yeah. When you think, well, I can't do anything about it is instead of trying to find ways that you can enact change, you just kinda sit and let it happen. That's terrible. Twenty. So Trump is a gift to all these horrible. President is now. When cannon finally won't be worst unless when anyone thinks about presidents there. They will only be able to think of one person truly Trump. Thanks for coming on. Yeah. Yeah. This is the next best thing. Don't go.

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Which owns a bunch of different sites and mainly? He's at Racing Junk Dot COM. Right now. Which is a fun place to be working? He's also a standup comedian. Who Tours all over the country? He his own three Ford Taurus. Sho's which automatically puts him on the running for weirdest and most interesting people of all time. We are covered a lot of ground on this show but I love having them in studio. It's Ralph Garage Dr Podcast. We're in the world we're in the cloud we exist. What's happening? Good man? You look great entire podcast. Thank you Ralph. How much Lbj Down. I don't know I don't go on scales. It fucked me up. Wow I'm going to go on a scale. I think probably the February you. Thank you The Tequila it's it's the it's good for you. It's the only alcohol that's like an upper. So you get honestly it's It's bad news bears sometimes. Because it's like you you have one drink. You're like Yep I can go for hours. Is My friends that do cocaine. It's their drink of choice. Way To call me out man. No but my your cocaine. Doing I have friends that I put in that category. Yeah and they. They always go for the corridor as always. I'm not rich enough to have a cocaine habit. Well there in that category because they have t shirts on the back and like you know team logo cocaine cocaine. No uniform is the t shirt. Hoodie John Vetoes. T T shirts and then those leather bracelets that have the SORTA fishhooks that connects them. Oh my gosh. That's the team. What's the case more than one in hard like if you're oh cocaine car on Sunset Boulevard? It's gotTa be a g wagon or Range Rover right allowed fast. Suv I'm big wheels. Yeah in La Anyway. In other cities there could be differences. Like what do you like? The cocaine car in Houston is different. You're right you're right. Yeah that Hennessy. Or depends on the level of course. Oh or the What are they called slabs the Houston last night With the things we fucking yet with the the scaffold. Yes KAFFA leading the come slabs right. Zack were the MA. And when you when you turn a slab into In motion when you drive a slab I think you're Swang US sweat swinging swinging. I think you're swinging on this podcast on a Thursday high. Ralph Garra. We'll show hello. Hello we're opening with Swang and looking at three hundred man the three hundred look at the fucking orange either villain in like the little rascals driving next to the car trying to fuck up the Derby right no this. Yeah that those are meant to shred shit. I think but apparently those are legal in Texas. I really liked that second. One down the Eldorado opera convertible with the with the spare tire in front there. Yeah that spare tire thing I mean not the Funky Swang in rim but the spare TIRE IS FACTORY TO FOLKS. Those folks back. I love that. Shit that is yeah. That's Texas Coke Vanilla Ice Dude. That's that's wall. Oh yes a lot of weight. Is that Really Powell? Powell does look thin. Yeah the People's Champ but does Take a left to vanilla ice. Did you see that? He apparently owns had restored. The Oh yeah good. Call Ralph. That is Paul. Can you pull up? Pictures echoed the vanilla ice five Mustang restored from the ice debut. Apparently vigneault is is going to cars at coffees and Florida. This I fucking Internet show kind of I remember him. He was like from the nineties. He's like breaking down like cosworths and stuff really. Yeah no way the house flipping thing and he definitely makes bank flipping houses. He didn't really know about cars so he's like how much. Hp's bitch put out some British guys like But I I don't know where he got it back from or if he owned it the whole time but apparently it was restored. It's restored to IB SPEC size babies. Spec WHAT IS WE. Take the ponies like the. It's got the five stars. I like the Momo steering wheel the most though the Momo Steering Wheel is Oh those five stars. Those are American racing. I think or Salinas Salinas. Look at the most. The rest of the leather allred with white access white vents red with white leather wrap vets but during meal. I had that steering wheel in my Hummer h one but it was wood grain was hauled another cocaine carjon. Let's classy though. Oh you like how he did the Round Gauge Update from the S. Ninety Five. Those are still I mean. They're still not great gauges though no. They're not but they're better. I really like that Vanilla. Ice just has this. It makes me go. Rob Van Winkle. Yeah You oh look whoa. Oh my God. That's the engine. Some rich are he's got a a blower on it but then he's also got this white kind of engine cover. That just really covers up the entire. You know what's at the blower blower peeks out the intake wrapping around the throttle by an Angel Logo Logo. No that's that's like a cupid angel with a What they call it. A bone arrows thing. I wish I could hear him. So does this does this five. Oh just shoot shoot arrows into the hearts of House. South beach or just shoots cocaine. Is that Cuba just blowing? Yeah that's not a bow and Arrow Zach. Oh man what's going on Ralph Not much man drove up in a Fiat. Got The bar is low. I had to stop. You isn't Angel. Holding a New Jersey. Oh Yeah as you were. This is cupid holding a newsy Mogo. It's an angel with vanilla ice hair and baggy pants holding. Oh my goodness also. It's flying and shooting up right at point aircraft Fucking ICARUS from my house. Goddamn planet drone over my house. My Goal Tulips. Sorry I interrupted but that was out to talk about a Fiat which is really for always into moment. I bought I bought any to the Barth. Barth the moment I bought it. I was just thinking of all the times of you just driving around the St being. Like it's the better car and I get looking echo in your but it's just like it's the same person the same person the Bison of Barth over an st the same person that bought a viper ninety eight over like nine eleven turbo era vet. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean I can relate. I bought a mini. John Cooper works instead of a Subaru. Sti in two thousand and seven so it's the same kind of thing except it's much worse car. It's not sorry I mean yeah. It's not a bad car it's not. Here's for what it is also driving that thing around in like looking for parking in Los Angeles and the best thing in the world I agree with you for small car in the city is Zach Zach says that they sound like Cessnas running out of gas which is the best most accurate statement ever made about. Just a dying pig idling. It's so sad bad. I laughed when it like POPs at twenty two miles an hour. Bmw going on the street the other day that had the burgalies fucking bourboule tune. 'em Four with like Voice Steiner everything on it and the guy was was creeping down the street at twelve. But my Bob. That's too much sounding in new cars. Because he doesn't know that what's going on here. You turn on news engines engines out because I was updating all of our stuff yesterday and one of 'em three forty like a long time ago and that guy had crazy burble to know when I got in the car was like is a twenty. Tinos like this is not that loud inside. But you don't know what it's like outside like you'll watch the drive bys and it's very popcorn burgalies tunes. Yeah I you know what it's it's it's got the so got no mufflers. Obviously so stock. Is it just dropping oil into the is out? It's doing his dumps fuel. Carry bombs into you. Know what I like that better than Ford funneling in the noise and of the cabin. Yes so yeah I agree with you. I hate engine noise in the cabin in principle. I've had it in a couple of cars where I've just turned it off. And who else does that a lot more really BMW GM does it The new corvette has it Audi almost Saudi do it. Does Jay. Aston Wow war. A lot of a lot of them do it. I have my focus Rs. I unplugged it. Had its own fused. I unplugged it. Yeah fifteen minutes. I plugged them back and I was like. Oh that's the thing about newer cars right you. Just you're just missing that kind of visceral nece turbo cars. Just don't sound as good. I mean fucking Fiat is like fuck no muffler fuck it. That's the way to do it. You know what I mean but a lot of other the turbo cars is they sound like air moving and so they burble tune they do the exhaust into the cabin with the fucking Porsche. Does this the to this trumpet. Thing that It literally is a trumpet. That comes off the intake and it's just on the firewall and they managed to the intake. Sound into the cabin with out doing it electrically in the nine eleven the new nine hundred. Pretty fucking cool actually. Jason Kameda is the king of this. We were talking about this yesterday with these many guys. Jason is the most hyper sensitive person. Like I don't mean that. Like like yeah. Like he's not snowflake see percent he he he he can feel everything in the car he can be like. The sound is coming from that speaker. And it's it's it's he said it was recorded from a drive by night. Like all the littlest show he can do. He's your guy to solve that Interesting but Fiat's just loud and they're done guns. Oh I know you gotta use presumably right. Did you get rid of the shows? You didn't show show and Mike. Handle so many people are gonNA log off right now I do. We had funny. I have you on this on your leg all the fucking show enthusiasts come out of the fucking Woodward Oh yeah well. Here's the thing is like I've had. I've had three of them going to have another one. I just what happens? I I went away from it You know I couldn't have fucking three cars. You know so you know so. I sold it to this kid in new drove to nor cows. Hey whenever you sell it now And the previous owner that I bought it from from nor cal He's like hey man that dude selling our show He got he got an accident off fucked out. No yeah so you wouldn't. He probably didn't want to you. Don't want now either. There'll be more he'll come out of the woodwork. There's going to be barn. Fine shows insane man these guys are. I mean you really. They're such finicky. Because you have to do this. Sixty thousand service. Which is everything. Is it really expenses? Yeah it's expensive. I mean honestly it's just time consuming You know you do it a buddy in a garage and you know it takes a long long time. Timing Belt Service Everything belt the water palm Little sensors gaskets and all that. But you have to do it. Yeah Yeah so bad We just did that on our van in the DELICA. Yeah it's timing belt. Water pump gaskets spark plug the major. It's a major service. Yeah we got one for the for the shop and for my wife than for him to drive really. Hannah fucking loves it. I Bet I'm in theory. It's a business vehicle but I'm I'm going to have to pry it from Hanna. Hanna has an alternate can be driving either a beautiful Jaguar F. type or the delicate and she prefers the delta. There is it's just. It's so great so cool it's sun ever ever ever in space van. If you haven't watched my video I put a video of it This Wednesday go watch it. It's very friendly. Van Like the size of everything looks durable and capable. But it doesn't look like an asshole. No it's style it at people smile when they see it very charming Hannah just thinks it has like it has the most personality like everyone just fucking loves that. Yeah strongly recommend the Delta. It's just really slow is it? Yeah Yeah but Zach. I think you're showing our screen right now on the fucking feed. What are we doing bro? Get us back. Thanks The yeah it's eighty four horsepower. Slower than you think you will like when I when we were doing the shoot and I was like all right. You can pass on leftover here and I was like. I'm going pretty slow and he's trying its performance vehicle. It's okay though. It's fluffy little man sitting in traffic in. La Cool very cool. It reminds me of those old. Suzuki's like Sidekicks yeah yeah. Had that Samurais gets Kinda got. That vibe is what Daihatsu Rocky. Oh yeah on the fucking highway or should I be using years. Those you'll find those on craigslist for twelve hundred dollars always always twelve. There's one of them. One guy wanted to these. I was a soft top they were. They're rough man. Yeah these widebody that's like is that the The Daccarett from all the keys into it you guys remember all the old rap videos where the dudes were hell. Yeah those are so funny they the I think the taste of rappers cars over the over. The years is real funny because they went inside. They went from sidekicks and mini trucks. Two six four impalas. Yeah and then kind of into mainstream cars. Just with huge rams. Yeah and now. It's just like full on luxury cars and then and then Like now it's like chaperones like you've gotta be like Mugabe's do in my My apartment building Lil Pump. Who's this rapper? Oh Yeah is is. I'm coming home late from a show at like two. Am and he comes out of What's the top Bros? Rice like Phantom. It's a fan of yeah. He like stumbles out of the Phantom. So high like parked in a handicapped spot. He wasn't driving his buddy was driving. And I look like the fuck is little pump doing in my vision. Yeah in my apartment building and Yes I apparently I don't know why maybe he owns a place there because it's right next. Lax He probably has good taste in in vehicles. Is that him. Yeah he does drugs. Yeah man that is someone who does real drugs. Drugs person is drugs. And that's a mumble rapper. You know what I swear to God. The last time I was here. We're talking about Wilpon pump really because I have yet because now it's coming back to me. He looks like the Smart Gremlin. Oh yes we did talk about that last night. That's so weird that's really it's cyclical but he hasn't phantom so he's good taste there's There's Oh yeah. Plead that upset It's weird when celebrities like that just appear in places you don't expect them to. I was sitting on the porch and Malibu. Yesterday are two days ago and Ray liotta cruises by. Yeah looking like an old ray. Liotta and you don't want to bother bug radio to put like Tam. I want to so bad but it just like you know. They are having a sandwich and Henry Hill just cruising yacht to say when he was a bath though like every character played like like open to conversation. Look like if I went up to him he would hit me over the head with his. Like marine layer shopping a- spike just spike was there. It was like the only time I've ever said anything to someone was shack. I was walking my house just like he was dressed up like a cop. Because it's a psych. Yeah Yeah I was at a party like El Segundo at the hotel and he was like walking by and his copy uniform any like fourteen bodyguards All little dudes at New Karate and Bruce Lee Society. I was like everyone. It's the guy from Kazam. Oh man didn't work out now he will send the Ninjas on you know he just he just pointed at me and gave me this fake. Like I'd kill you would show you wouldn't. Shock has a Ninja militia. Yeah with actually smaller residuals next to him. Six seven all five seven Ninja Militia Ninja militia Yeah kind of is a cop. Isn't he lives something or other kind of cop. Oh Yeah So I got to tell you about these cars zaken. I drove yesterday. We went up to pule. -Ten Soup Andersen's Oh men forty miles past advertise that for boys. He's always said No. I mean there before. Those gross predicted that. It's in a spot where there's way better places to eat there. Yeah fourteen better places right in. The heart of one of those places bought a billboard every hundred miles now even on a highway that you're not on the five inch. Hey piece Uber's isn't that far. It's like wait. Isn't that like West fifty miles out of the way? Yeah but but have you tried this soup? They put Bacon. It never had in the forties. It was amazing. Exactly Coolant also in the thirties. It was just like we're a restaurant that's still open and everyone's like Oh my God no. We went to this place. Guildford racing up there that builds these bat shit minis like us and so they have. Yeah I saw the picture that they had a variety of little nutty minis but that little of that read one in the back of that picture there. That's the one. So Zach Zach had a go in a mini that had a Honda CR V. Powertrains SWAP ALL WHEEL DRIVE ALL WHEEL. Drive all wheel drive. Beat hundred horsepower. Kind of NEAT. Yeah Two hundred. Twenty four cage had good way like what eighteen hundred pounds two thousand? I think with like yeah and then so he drove that and it was pretty cool and then I drove this while while which is look. It's IT looks pretty stock. But it's red will but it's read. The book. Genius has got kind of a wide wheels and wide fender flares. On Him as our knowledge. I've no it's rear wheel drive rear engine rear. Drive row tricks supercharged. Three point five liter acura. V Six with six speed manual. Oh man a limited slip differential and it makes five hundred the wheels and the car weighs two thousand pounds with heat air conditioning touch kilos go and heated and cooled seats and the guy was kind of like who built. It was kind of like you know. I mean he didn't sound fucking like Down Syndrome Lou. He was like no he was like. Look Sing. Has a monster engine and it runs tens by the way the ten second quarter mile and he was kind of like I wish it was. Lighter is two thousand pounds of five hundred horsepower. He's like yeah. We could probably take two or three hundred pounds out of them like please don't don't because it has. It has like a suede interior engine. Come in the back is covered in sweat like. It's a really really nicely done car. And if you're not on the throttle it's actually reasonably refined like a conversation there right but if you sneeze or breathe and touch the gas or the break or the steering wheel it like because it says. Short Woo boy. It's fucking so crazy you have the raw on this Computer Zach. Can you play just like a couple of seconds of Rof I can? I can get it you have to get. Is it handy? Is it worth it? I don't know if it's worth it. I think it's worth it's that can find. It goes like so stock. Wheelbase was eighty six inches. Eighty eighty inch wheelbase. Wow okay five hundred horsepower with the engine in the back so the steam steering is so twitchy and fucking shady and like you know. They're doing their best. It's in development and It's it's really hard work to drive it and so I wonder what made them go with the engine choice. I mean it's just it's just crazy I think I it is a mother fucking experienced subdued. I mean I had a lot of adrenaline for about half an hour. Forty minutes after riding it and driving briefly like the ride back drove it to say I mean I I drove it. Zach drove it. What's that came back from driving it? He was like you did a really good job of talking. About how fucking much work thing is no. I had a real approach like you are a better driver than me. And I'm just like but but honestly it solidified like there's a smoothness that you know you get you obtain as you get better and better and better and it showed because when I got in I was like all right. This thing looks like a little bit or move to shift in your hand because it's short wheelbase with big tires so it changed direction real quick. Yeah when you lift when you lift and you load up the weight on the nose. And they put you know they've got a cooling system. They've got the air conditioning and they've got a fuel cell in the front so there is something up there but you have fucking really changed the way distribution and so when you live especially if you're on it you know what I mean and you've reared back now you lift and it's one of those you know what I mean. It's it's really really really really gnarly really really fast. But it's a really great experience fast like new New Carson. I feel like a real stiff. And you know they kind of just squat and go and it feels like overly sprung and everything and this had a really nice like gentle sag to the back and then stopped and just set and just fucking tore like space. Time just moved through air. Molecules was so good for a car from the Seventies. I mean I don't know if I've been in a car. That's data old. That goes that fast. Oh I mean even yeah. That's not true I was Josh. Kayla's Camaro trust kills fourteen hundred pounds. That went that fast. But this thing this jumps out at different especially because like if you think about a Japanese v six it doesn't have a big Cam. It's boost based right so at idle. Yeah it's quite it's a fucking quiet will be sixers whatever and even even off like live but you get into the pedal and it's like Hellfire it's fucking great so like the throttle response like even if you like. Are you going through homeys iphone videos Okay we've fastest thing. Okay here listen. Listen to this little fly by. It's an is. The car is far worked and he just handed over the over the keys. You know special instructions nothing. Here's a sound up. Oh man this is a nice little sound very good sounding. V6 is so fast dude. I I'm not explaining it very well but like all the gears feel about the same. And there's something about the way it's sprung and the size and all of it that like really contributed to the overall experience of driving it and how quit was and and it was done really well and worked in. The power van was like perfect ten second car that weighs two thousand pounds and a ten second car. That weighs dude. You're doing you're shifting your shifting four times. You're you're doing. You're doing ten seconds and you're you're the top fifth when you get there and he said he's running low tens at one hundred forty miles an hour. That's insane we. I mean we went. That fast. Allegedly allegedly close close close. We went that fast allegedly and it is very very intense. I'm just like the drive bys I think that's what they use. My palms were super sweaty. By the end of the drive. It was very video so gnarly and actually we made it video with the all wheel drive. Car Zack trying to and it. It was little under braked will underpin YEP and so it was It was a little hairy for You Know Zach is a very good driver as well and he's he's really carrying some speed and I was a little lazy with setting my harnesses and really as tight as they could be in. Zach was kind of pushing the limits of the brakes a little bit and a lot of room we've We ran out of room. We've got a problem. Yeah you always have right enough room. Right I mean it's in the video but they didn't the all the car I drove. They didn't fully built. They were just like tuning it for somebody by somebody else. Selection story the full story. Is I the car I drove the car? I was supposed to drive the redcar correct. The Car Zack was supposed to drive. Was A fucking stunning It was at that blue one. It was a stunning classic mini with a Ford one liter ecoboost swap. Oh and it's so it had that ego boost powertrain kilos start but it also had like all is beautiful suspension work and it had baseball glove. Interior like Rawlings baseball allow. It was beautiful really really good like the invited. Us Out. Who worked at the shop was testing it the day before we got out there and got rear ended by somebody and the Union bodies totaled so the good news and it was a customer car. No DISASTER THERE. It is hiding in the back of that picture. There The bummer. But but it's it you know the the good news is it's the they can get a new university and because it's front drive. Everything else can just go right on the new unibody and it's like totally salvageable and not like the end of the world but it meant Zach. Had the drive backup car. So they're like we have these seven other cars and the most interesting one was the all wheel drive. Yeah because they. They had a couple of rigid ones which are interested the stories interesting. But they're like forty sixty horsepower. Yellow one was kind of cool. Go after yes drive like the same car and they had an original turbo car which was the most powerful car that That the British motoring company ever made like in the original minis which is only like one hundred hundred ten. And it's just funny that like that was like the most that they were like. This is okay anything more than your mind. Any of these guys are like about five times. That have some booker's in your makes it really made me also just really coughing in that power like that engine in Combo like I would really be considering that for any type of like performance allocation is really because there was massive power delivery out of a fairly mundane engine with a basic bolt on you know Road trucks has really good Sounds to it just. It had a lot of good sounds to it. You know there's one it was really crazy. Those guys Gilbert did a fantastic job. I mean they. They built that one. We'd build one just like this for a customer. They said it would probably be like a hundred and fifty. G'S TO BILL. That honestly worth it. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah to be able to write a check for duty. He brought that motherfucker on fastest car on Netflix. And he won the drag race. He beat our friend amber in a McLaren. Lt Drag race in that fucking many shifting fuck. That's a mother thought right there. Yeah that's baller. Amber had a six seven five. Lt With launch control in his car was like a turbo. Gto and something like it bought it. Beat some serious stuff and it's just it's a it was such a memorable experience. I'll tell you every car drive if I if I owned a singer nine eleven. I wouldn't lining up against that in a race in on it. Yeah All Day. What a drag race man so it puts the power down fucking squats so they had a really good clutch engagement when I launched it like. You didn't have to dump it like you. Kinda like engage go like you know what I mean when it rolled an inch you could give the rest away and just yeah I would say in hindsight I was thinking about it because a steering was really twitchy when you transfer the weight in hindsight I would say because I think they're running a square stance had big fatty front tires. Take twenty or thirty out of the front tires. Yeah because understeer was not the problem. The problem was extremely aggressive. It never it always steered more than you thought you had plenty of steel like we're all full on steer. Do you think your nine thirty. Turbo is just too mundane and sedate. Are you comfortable with the handling characteristics of the nine eleven? Gt to on worn tires and need a new experience. So who's the customer that that would buy this? They said the one of the problems is it's not like nine eleven people where they'll spend all the money you've got a couple of guys who are out of their minds and everyone else wants to keep things pretty reasonable and affordable. Because I feel like. There's a lot of many purists out there that you know wouldn't touch anything like that but these guys say different these guys say different. They say minis many owners are not that pure And are more than forty years and like you know. They kind of got their name with rally another racing and so I think Like Porsche a lot of people came to love them to group them because of how they performed and some came to love them because they were just these cute little boxes. I think there's enough of them that you can find people in both camps I could definitely tell you that if I had all the money a thousand percent would I want one of these and I'd want someone like Lee or or a like a really good racing driver to set up the suspension and handling like I. There's no reason I wouldn't want only like that if I had the money. For one hundred and fifty. Jeez that's a value. I'd like to drive one with like a really good front engine. One that has one hundred fifty to two hundred fifty horsepower to see what that flavors like because they need the rear engine. It feels great. It's really cool. That would just be curious what they feel like when there. But it's not a little more you know. That would have been great for that one of it. Yeah it was really sad halmi literally the night before we went. There sent me a picture of the car with it. Didn't look that bad. Like the rear hatch was kind of smashed into the tail lights like it was definitely drivable but it was fucked It was not the singing would feature in a video and then next victory sent him hospital bed with a neck. Brace on 'cause like no headrests on you know what I mean old mini no fucking headdress but But these guys were you know as they were a class. Act Man They I. I really respect what they were doing. Up there and And they really put a lot of pride Finish behind their their products which really appreciated and they said. The next move is to build a new power train. They like this V six set up a lot but apparently you can get a Honda. K Twenty or k twenty four With this row treks on it and make almost as much power but like a hundred and fifty pounds less and still put that in the back yard which they say is possibly the better setup it might it might have less effect on the way. Transfer fucking nuts dead. That's really cool highly. Recommend you get a chance to to to to go check these guys out there and Butin. Oh there's the all wheel drive car isn't it or is it. The one leader the Isn't that the all wheel drive now They're they're in built in which is kind of in the middle of Nowhere. But it's by solving and you can go drink wine as he sou- pay soup this by the farm. Okay you know the EMA FARM. You can go petty moves and Shit Whoa There's your here's a Zach pulled us over. Here's a side by side The blue car. That Zach is driving. That's the all wheel drive car. It's got defenders are like twice as wide as the five hundred horsepower. One which is kind of nuts. It's about two to three inches longer. They hit pretty well. What Yeah they channel that Front Bonnet and the extend the nose like three inches to fit the all wheel drive next to another mini. To tell the difference though is where you you play dry. You got the audio sounds like a Honda. Yeah yeah it really. I hadn't. I've only ever driven kind of a regular many. I've never driven a crazy one. And so I I really really appreciate an old one and I've driven an old one. Yeah I fucking I really like the way they look on my do. I hadn't I had never driven an original one. Classic one like that before had been around in like that but I liked how roomy it was. I mean I you know it was a little tight when Zack and we're like next to each other but I was in that red car by myself like totally decent. It's so much headroom. Ya Lots and lots of headroom. Lots of headroom lots of leg room and it had those really great eighties. Ricardo seats with the basket. We've had rests. Oh my God after bowl. It was really nice when they made the car they. The idea was it had to fit for people but they wanted to be for adults specifically so it wasn't like a two plus two where it's like. Oh Yeah and behind. You can sit a tiny teacup poodle and that's child. It's like four adults. I mean you'll your knees will be up a bit if you're behind tall person but they still got two more taller brand now like that's true. Fiat's Patou Italian guy very good five seven yeah average true but Yeah what a cool day that was. I really really liked that I. It's not off. Oh there's the baseball glove. Leather seats didn't get to sit in. But look how nice that is. I mean that's fucking fantastic. Really good leather work There's a there's a whole things that there's a whole thing happening there and so tiny they're so little. Have you been out anything cool recently I did For what for horse cars no Having any interesting question no sir what have I been in At work Racing junk where I work Where we found a In the garage. It's a a Camaro that was repossess. The forty fifth anniversary Camaro And we're trying to get It's like a it's in this weird like we don't own it like we kind of own it. The bank doesn't own weird limbo. Like I can't touch the streets. Bank exists still. It's a bag. Yeah you've communicated bank may was like hey guys you you this is yours you deal with this focus can get a title bond. That's the move. Learn about that until recently. What a pain in the ASS. Those odd but the problem is that our umbrella company just Acquired WEB MD. So like they they're valued jacked way up so they're worried about. Us driving the car getting closer. Like hey you guys on M. D. Boom you know we hit you with you know so. That's that's kind of like the problem right now but like you know we were trying to like figure out some some because we're at MPM. See where you know you like. Hey we're media. We want to get some part of blower for this they sets go to Qa wine. Let's get some suspension for it or whatever but like you know. We don't really know if we have it or not. So it's like the big thing. When I bought my delorean. I bought it out of a storage unit and the guy the first owner had bought it. He obviously had some problems with because there's a lot of receipts for repair visits in the first year. He when the company went into business with the company went bankrupt. He had alone on this car so he stuck it in the storage unit. And I don't really know what happened. Yeah but when I bought it there was still a lean on the car from a bank. That doesn't exist anymore So I go get a title bond against the car. Sos paid ten percent of the car's value to this bond. I get the title but if someone shows up later and says this is really my car. Yeah they pay them off. That's how it works. I never even heard that before. Yeah Super Weird For people who've never heard of what raising junk is because I know what it is. What's racing junk It's primarily classifieds site right so You know they sell everything from I mean God race. Cars tracks cars trailers parts. He did say tracks are tracks. There's a dude on the site that's trying to trade his private island. He's been trying to traded for so long. The car keeps changing. It was like A. Gt G. Two are asked like if you type in. I want to train my island for Gtri Island in the search and he keeps changing the car. Yeah so these are all these want to trade. He wants one so this guy wants to trade his island. Ford enter of private island for sale three acres survey ready for development south of done. Lawton causeway In Florida a million dollar valuation tr. Or he he puts it out at Coon. Tosh Bro. I'll trade for his island. Which is a million dollar island? But he he'll or he'll traded for two thousand by a fucking events door. I mean nothing is four hundred grand. What are you doing? I think the price is just whatever can just like I like that you can buy the one of the most Holler then and one of the most interesting things I've ever found on racing junk is an entire race team. That's my favorite where it's like two cars. Ten engines of trans-border fifteen sets a wheels. And it's like thirty five grants. Get me out of this league. This is a great site because I I don't know before I found it a long time ago. I didn't really think of. Where do people get like funny cars? I guess they just build them when they go to the funny car store. And it's like you know the search term on racing junk roughly twenty cars a good one. I mean I always go to There's other monster truck. Oh Yeah Oliver others got to be a great place to fuck and look racing items racing to the people put the weirdest shit on your own. My God I love it. It's it's so it's it's hilarious like truck. Oh we're gonNA racing opinion. Just go down and has everything. Yeah just yeah. There's all kinds of people put most bottles. We'LL SHARE SOME TRACK. Northstar speedway track right. Yeah North Star speedway Palmer Alaska Alaska Alaska. Lasca seven hundred forty. We were talking about this last week. That Dude Cletus McFarland track and Florida. It seems like it's a pretty crappy track but fuck it. It's track. Yeah it'd be so fun. What's up with that? What's up with this track for a nine hundred gs in Alaska and this is literally the photo of the track without a picture of the guy before. Cas DUMB ASS. There was a different ad here. Motorsports manager point four million. That's that's a real track. That's gotTa wrote several tracts. There's a there's a an oval dirt track there's a skid pad Wa. I love when people go like we got the shack. Stan you hook up with some Chili Burgers. That's great two point. Four million. I mean that's that's lot of track for two point. Four million all right. Where is that place that would be albuquerque? Worst that's not the worst. That's I mean traffic conditions than Alaska Yeah but there's you know as a civic race car for nine grand. Yeah I mean you can waste all time on this one hundred percent and also second hand trailers and tools and stuff like that are very the number one thing people buyer trailers trailers trailers and towed her homes and And Monster trucks really. Yeah officers term at least really people just love just looking at monster trucks. I think someone who did a An Arrow Star. It was What's the hot Air Aerostar with tracks? Oh my God oh there it is it is. That's not like that's not. I wouldn't even call those tracks like those tracks. I think like the Matt tracks. Oh yeah that's a tank tank those those look like the thing on that ripper that the thing they made for years but Yeah just says tank hundred ten thousand you click on it and then it's a Ford a white Ford Aerostar van with giant angry tracks on either side. Oh my God that's amazing. Well Bravo to whoever is still very way owned Zone it's a fucking giant. Chevy Motor cars setting it's That's assist to other two of them. It's at least you would be right. Yeah I think there's a picture of it very light on details. It's kind of funny. That's talk show the picture the money or you don't from famous racing team you all know bigfoot and then story bigfoot steam over time. That's why I just went to Monster Jam a couple of weeks ago for the first time L. Really. Yeah it was pretty fun. Wow it's a flip top cheese Cool I just went to Mazar for the first time ever. It was pretty cool. Yeah but it's about thirty exciting minutes stretched out to two and a half hours. Yeah and also there was an overtly political swipe at Colin Kaepernick started which I thought was a little cold especially for Los Angeles Yeah but I mean everywhere. Outside of I know Los Angeles then found out that it's Disney property. Basically I then found out that there's eight monster Jam's era that operate around the country dope name take and they have a really interesting business model. Which is that. They ran the they rent. Baseball stadiums all winter. So they've rented like the dodgers stadium for a month and they do like twenty dates over a month and monster jam. They'll do like supercross and these all these series. Fill the stadium with dirt for the entire season. I mean everyone wins. Everybody everybody win. Everybody wins. It was kind of cool. I mean the the freestyle portion and insane. Yeah like the stuff they do now if you follow like Yehuda Instagram. Or Son of a digger. We filmed a bit for Dr on sports this past year. Where SPINELLI got to drive a truck at Moscow university like it's fifteen hundred horsepower. And there's no training car before that just like we're like how different is this from the actual competition. Chuck Thompson. Same frame. Same engine in a lot of it is like SPEC for the for the competition training sport. It's Kinda like You WanNa go go. How are you comfortable rolling level and then there's like you are son of digger with land in and jump in the front wheels? Come up and then they can like hit the brake and then turn those really. There's inch forward like you're staring at the ground holding fifteen hundred horsepower. Like just deller man. It's cool but it's but they could condense slaves. It's for people that put down fifteen years. It's not for people that booker and their sub five-year-old children. Oh yeah that's pretty much. Oh eighty-five Geez for that fucking send it old school. So that's some full on monster truck with like eighteen shocks per corner. Yeah it's called the Alberta Outlaw. It's like an old school like forties body. Eighty five grand man. Good time you need like people to run it from what I've seen but do you need withing six people to run it. I mean you need people to like help. You start like maintain it. Everything's very big. I took a photo of the bolts on that thing like they are like this microphone. Stand there fucking. Here's a jet truck for Ninety Geez. Looks like a fire truck. That's got a fucking jet engine at the back of the guy selling his Maybe not anymore but it was a school bus Drag racing like. Yeah like with the whole team. Yeah Yeah you get the team the whole the whole the whole operation whatever it is like to to to send them to you know. Take it to a middle school. And if it's fucking freak out by the way. This is the only fire truck. I think they're really actually accurately represents the name firetruck. Yeah when I was five years old. I hear that firetruck. I'm like that's what I imagined. Fire the fire to turn out there. I like whatever in a movie they talk about. There's a fire and they talk about lighting a huge bomb to to stop the fire. Oh yeah there's I mean there. There's a lot of monster trucks on raising. I mean there's really pick your pick your monster try. I mean there's so much there's so much of that even know about like Like the the swamp drags in like the whole that kind of stuff. Like at the redneck. Yacht Club Yeah. Oh yeah that's that's that's that's that's basically where you put. Like huge tires on your. Yeah Diesel Bro Truck. Yeah and drive it through a swamp. Yeah I'm sorry. Y'All talking about mud racing. Oh Yeah Law thirty G's Chevy Colorado mud bog Yeah you gotta see these guys at fricking King of the hammers. They're all frigging blowing through. That thing is pretty. Cool Kid rock. That was remember the video of the Sherpa that like we went to a mud bog and everyone was just like what's this thing and it made it across all these trucks get stuck like you just floats across it. Kinda cheats. You fuck does anyone. Can YOU SEARCH FOR SHERPA TAXES? It was resold sharp yet. I don't know I can't imagine buying a sharp and then deciding you're unhappy with it. Yup Zero results those things. Have you seen the new arc we talked to? Do you know what a sharp is right. It's Russian thing. Yeah it like floats goes through like frozen is up so they they came out with this thing called the sharp arc which turns this four by four sharp into a ten by ten cab and trade and powered trailer has all the same capabilities. That irregular sharp has ten by ten. It's how much does go for. It's like three hundred grand or something. Okay that's actually less than I thought. Oh yeah everything about Sherpas way less expensive than you think it's going to be. I thought it was like eight. Hundred grand no no. No irregular sharp is one hundred. Nineteen Thousand Bucks. Boy that's it. Yeah Yeah you know yeah. Regular is like shockingly cheap. I think it was like four hundred thousand dollars. Thought if he I said I said we when he told me how she might go. Let's turn off the cameras do. Are you aware of how short you're selling yourself? And he said something about how they're very honorable people in Bemidji Minnesota and he didn't want to mark it up. He said he wanted. He wanted to match the global price of them So all right so that's nice okay. But it's only one hundred nineteen thousand dollars. Which for one of those fucking kidding me. It's amazing like there's some like those gnarly are are are gnarliest. But there's some gnarly armored trucks that are like what's that one armored. No it's not armored. It's not no. I mean if floats and stuff. But it's not armored in terms of like military armor. No no the night is the armored one. The night Conquest or something like that night xfi based off the F to fifty and then there's a version of that there's something called the US V. Rhino. That looks just like that. But he's not actually armored. That's the poser. One someone has that in Playa Vista that I see driving around no fucking way. I haven't seen him down. No maybe he was Girka to which everything gars the Teradyne. Girka is. The is the other one That one's actually armored. But the one. That's not are actually Playing four zero. That was the most disappointing thing I ever bought. Riphil yeah yeah well because they don't. It's a truck not. It's not actually now that I was like you know what you know take. I'll take a six hundred pounds off of it and superjet Girka Super Jared s stupid Hey folks if you WanNa fuck and talk to us get in the super chat. We'll get your questions in just a second. Cheers cheers coming to visit us. I'm in How'S THE COMEDY WORLD? Trade? Good Man I'm going to Connecticut for the first time. Where can I get Hartford? Oh Nice she'll never been there Washington. Judging amy really to show no No Harford's all right good. What Club are you doing The Funny Bone I. I've been there. Yeah that'd be cool Hartford I'm doing a lot of weird like Jacksonville is that well look at your website. Yeah Man Look Fat Jew there. Yeah well the aftertaste original content of what we did. We just see the fat Jew. Make a terrible cameo in. I just saw him make an awful cameo in something Faulk community but that was something else. Oh God dammit. He sold white girl. Rosetto forty million dollars discredit him for doing four hundred million. A lot alive like jetty is like I don't give comes. I'm stealing content. I'm doing this and I'm putting off and I'm selling Rosaiah to Mike. I mean he didn't steal say that we like comedy thing but I was really glad that the community came out in like kind squashed his comedy central deal partner with. I think paracels from right. Yes but now it's like all right. You made a product. You made a business totally fine but it was. You get do overs. Just not just now. That yes. And some people like and they. The comedy community tried hard to cancel him like they tried hard. Like get rid of this dude that it Like they're trying to like you know. People are like picketing shows and stuff. Oh really and then but like you just can kill him. I mean when you sell wine drug dealer win. Do you get like worried about that because like with like going like you because you've been doing this podcast for what eight years nine. Yeah and years. Where is this episode? Five Oh one hundred and one guy going into the archives and finding some weird shit you said and like no. I'm not I'm not running for office. I don't work for anybody honestly. I mean there's some shit that I would probably cringe if we went back and listen to it. I don't think I've ever said anything. That offensive or Trans phobic. Or anything like that where I'd really be like. Well God no yeah. I think anytime we did stuff like whatever that could be looked at badly. I mean it's kind of appropriate listening to Joe Rogan discussing people accusing him of being transphobic yesterday. Yeah he's he's you know if you're trying to if you're trying to be funny we're always on this show. Try Me funny entertaining. Especially the first couple of years. We were like drinking and smoking. We whatever and it was like. Let's go down this avenue and if if we're all laughing it's funny like that. That's what we were doing so I don't think any are going well. These are the principles we stood behind and we wrote a constitution about it. It's like that was Three moon shines a lot of people. Think it's at the everything's about to switch like the P. C. is GonNa start you know because it's you know Hollywood's getting tired of it you know. What do you mean I'm saying like I'm saying the people that are making decisions? You think there'll be a backlash against the me things I was just. I wouldn't say backlash against me to. I would say that. Like as far as just like being politically correct. Oh is gonna I mean I think especially like the Dave chapelle special and the bill Burr special like really like pushing against the grain? Dave I thought it was really funny. I mean you got a bunch of critics that talk shit and then he's WanNa fuck an emmy goes globe won a grammy. Yeah Mark Twain Award special but it was like something that it was the first special to start tipping. Yeah. I didn't love his Louis Joke. I didn't think that was a great joke. I thought I thought it was. I thought he you know where to go. Well what's weird about Louis? Thing is I've talked to a few comics. It's weird because the Louis thing apparently was super well no long comics. Everyone knew about everyone. Who's a comic knew about it? If you weren't a comic I didn't I didn't know about it so to me. It was weird because Louise Entire Act which I loved. It was all this sort of wink. Wink here's all this horrible shit. Were thinking thank God. We're all just thinking it. No one's doing it. Yeah but then yeah. He's actually act doing some creepy shit and so that kind of breaks down that that basis of his comedy. Which is we're all thinking this creepy shit. Thank God. We're not acting. Yeah you write a joke about Jumping out of traffic and killing the dude in front of you. Yeah only funny. Because you're not doing it. Yeah they find out later. You're doing it just murdering Rhodium. He's he's a while he was. He was joking for years about being a total sexual deviant like hol- hold on a second. He's actually a total sexual deviant like that. That doesn't really reconcile with me. You know exactly that is kind of why I didn't like Dave's joke about it but I thought but that's fine I was. I didn't go on twitter and say nobody watches shit which is not a hundred percent the perfect reaction to them to a joke. That you like. They have a reasonable disagreement with this. And I'm going to go about my life but you still think Dave Chapelle is funny. You just do like he did. Forty jokes right. There are a couple of hours going who and then laugh really hard jokester so good. But it's like yeah you if you don't like one be like thirty nine. B. E. NO comics are allowed to miss absolutely miss and I don't think but I just think I have a weird thing with the forgiveness of Louis by Comex because I guess it's because they all knew about it and the rest of US did end but biggest thing for me is like fucking weird 'cause like for me is like I would see so many comics that Would Talk Shit about him afterwards? But those were the same guys that if Louisa. Hey would you open for me here? They got guilt. Yup Yup. Yeah I mean that's just like classic power stroke. Hollywood money freelance gigs. You know what you know. It's tough climbing the ladder. I know it's it's it's a it's a it's a weird world but it's Weird. I mean you know you guys are are are in a different but sort of parallel world but like you can't get fired productions chairman. You know what I mean. We're here canceling this. We're here I got. I got a connection to the Internet and the microphone. Good it's tough man because especially like entertainment you meet so many people and you're like Oh this guy's this guy's dope this guy's my friend and then all of a sudden it's like no this guy you know had a better opportunity or this or like you know then they they start talking to these people because I want to be seen with. These people are not these people. It's like a weird so weird world everyone. Every comic has a very tight circle of comic friends very tight. Joe Has Been So nice to me and introduced me to some of his friends. And they've all been the nicest people I've never felt in the back bar. The comedy store in the back the back bar. This is fucking looks are hanging out this fucking heaven back here to like Brad Williams back their addresses Abraham Lincoln. The fuck is going on And he's he's he's another person that got that got fucking. Joe Noah Williams. What did he do July it was like Six or seven years ago you on a podcast and I you know I'm I'm I could be wrong but He was talking about this joke where car he was opening for Carlos. Mencia this joke where It was it was getting high getting Doug with High Susan podcast They're talking about stories and he's talking about Um Carlos Mencia would be in the room with the girl having sex and then he would like tag brat in and so then Brad will be having sex with this girl and then And then everyone was really quiet. And then Brad just like nervously laughed and it was Okay well that's it so I was like seven years ago. And then someone pulled it up from the archives and it was like. Oh the skype girl. Oh and Oh. I guess that could be interpreted in a very rainy way. Yeah that's true being serious or was there a joke like so. That was how it was trying to so he was saying he was trying to to to fit it and have a funny joke and make people laugh. And but everyone's like this and this and it's it was so it was such a bad time into his kid was just born and this thing comes out and like I mean so. Many people are behind him. But like it's just like a that's I suppose the actual facts of that event matter more the joke in that play. You know what I mean but I don't know but that the okay yeah. He was if he's still canceled. I guess because he was dressed as Abraham Lincoln and the backboard fucking thing. He was not doing material but to me. I'm like there's no way a girl would confuse the two of those people. That's the latest movie pirate radio. It's a joke in radio. It's kind of a rape joke. But it's a joke that was that was the sex joke growing up was always waving at them from the thing and everyone thought those the funniest thing in two thousand and two that's rape now but I think it was yup bullets rape then put it will. Here's the thing a joke right. But now you can't joke yeah But UH with fucking of the most recent one they were talking about. When I was at the comedy store was chef will about Kobe. Which actually Joe King Joe Did Express some disapproval over. He was like Oh that one was gnarly and I guess whatever he I guess whenever some celebrity dies he does. He writes really mean things about them. I think that's a thing he does or at least it was presented to me as a thing that he does. I don't follow him close enough to no. I don't either with Joe set and I'm going to take Joe at his word. Yeah and and I guess He got something to the effect. Twenty thousand thousand death threats and there were death threats Being phone into the comedy store the bartender at the comedy store was again people in calling here. Death death threats for Ari like Whoa. Yeah he had to shut down all of his so many dates and his agent dropped Like Afrikaners Age attractive and so two special. Yeah oh wow everything. Well maybe he did find out where the line is. I guess I guess he found it. Yeah I mean it's just I it's because it's because the daughter died always other non famous people you know it's like yeah. It was like Even even people that that that toe the line. We're like Yeah No. Even Joe who is like the ultimate defender will comedy attempts no matter how much she was like. Whoa you know. He didn't say that like you shouldn't be allowed to do it. He didn't go that far but he was like that was some Shannon. And here's the thing here's the thing. He opened the window for all these people. That didn't even know who are fear was and then when you never know when you've never seen our fears act and you jump into what he's known for Jump into like the amazing racist and all that and you pull that out of context or just like what fuck. Yeah no people can if they pull compilation video together. It's not good comics. Basketball League with him and his number was nine eleven. That's our fear. That's gnarly yeah. He's actually a really good basketball. Actually really get really remember. When there's a fucking video of Adam Sandler passing the fucking basketball and it got like three million views is a good pass. Man's becky balls Let's go to the fuck and people. What are we got? Was that Joe. Leonard that says you know I read that name totally wrong Joe Leonard Said Mark Norman mention he would be on the podcast on Rogan recently. Will he be joining US soon? He will I hung out with mark. Normand last week. I didn't want to ask anything of him. I heard him talking about cars on Rogan. He knew what he was talking about. He knew shit and I was like Joe gave me the number. And so I hit up Mark Norman and he came out on Lamborghini exercised day with me and we had lovely little afternoon and Yes next time. He's in town. He's going to join US program. Mark was great checkout his appearance on on Rogan. It was It was very good. He's a fucking funny guy man. I like that dude a lot. He knows his cars. He's good Josh says I have seven thousand dollars worth of automotive fund money. I've got a stock fiesta. S. T. I love and I wanNA keep it a long time but I want a bike again. Should I go half on Cobb stage? Three kit for the fiesta and half on the bike where leave the fiesta loan and get a nicer bike. Ooh I like your thought process. Josh had to say I we had no regrets on the COB Stage three package on the fiestas. T the one thing you don't want to do the fiesta. St Is Fuck suspension. They really nailed that from the factory. We did some things that are suspension. It didn't necessarily make it handle any better. It did make it a little creek year over driveways Yeah so the question is does is a is a seven thousand dollar motorcycle a way better experience the thirty five hundred dollar motorcycle right. I mean depends what you get. I mean I think three thousand is pretty low for a bike. Four five is where bike? Start getting to be like Nice. Yeah so I'm what I'm assuming he's talking about Crockett's if you drive if you're probably young enough that's what you want. Yes three kinda cheap. You would have you'd set cop stage to don't go don't go through. Down is down. Pipe power on the inner color. Right as what you don't get I believe. The difference is the inner cooler. I think your top and we'll be very much improved with stage two with a better down pipe in a new tune in stuff. You'll get like a lot more power and Torque and then you have five gs and maybe you could find something in the middle. Yeah like five five six four four five six is where you start getting. Cut diese difference. I don't know I don't really know what sport bikes go for. But like there's the difference in four and seven is significant. Well it's funny. Bikes is you can spend two thousand dollars in nineteen ninety leader bike. That has one hundred eighty horsepower. And we'll go in a straight line like almost as fast as they knew one they won't turn stop as I've I've been looking for. Cb X.'s and they're they're tough define man. Everyone wants a lot of money for them. And and I don't want to spend a lot of money on one But Yeah I'm with you. What can you read? I can't Rinku what's up man. Good to see you again here. Like every time Thoughts on busy motives bonkers nine thirty five and on Noise. How ABOUT PIPING? Real-time easy motor noise into the cabin. Tesla drive units actually screen pretty good at wide open throttle. The cars are just too deadened. You know We saw if you pull up my Graham Zach I was at Porsche experienced center last weekend and I saw busies nine thirty five there. It is on the right so this is very very cool. It's based on a nineteen eighty. I think nine eleven. Sc Eighty or eighty one And he's removed everything and he's putting a Tesla of rear-drive unit and a nice battery in is apparently aways twenty two hundred pounds. He said he was fastest car. He's ever built in a straight line. Which says something for him. Yeah it's a single speed forward averse and he said it has manual breaks. Could've fucking punched him he loves loves his mucking. Fucking manual breaks. I keep telling guy busy is it have real breaks because you was met your cue me. He's Nigeria and he speaks. He's doing voiceover. Because Matt you're going to carry. I have put manual breaks for maximum. Feel and I know I fucking hate you. Busy power breaks that have great field but he did say that. I'm he said when it is ready and dialed in that. I may have a go and he did say in front of another media outlet that I can have ago. I so I will be the first person to drive this thing. I'm very excited by it. It was so cool when he rolled up in it. 'cause I mean it looks amazing? It looks like the kind of thing they should have. This hot idle you know and be burning race gas snub nose. Yeah and then. He rolled up just nice and silent and and I saw him. Give it a little squirt and the throttle and man. It's scooted out fucking got going. It was cool because that thing weighs twenty four hundred pounds like to look at that and then the truck and go. How do these things weigh the same and have the same power plant? Yes for very different purposes. Really interesting stuff but yeah we will be having a go. Yes and the second part of his questioned. Pump plumbing in EV. Noise so the tie can has this sort of jetsons burum like It's literally like the jetsons like it's a friendly. Were it is really really. I think that's right. You'll get described me losing my virginity when I was sixteen thousand friendly. Were this okay And Yeah I mean I feel like with vs I feel like fucking lawns. Dropped all these stupid little APPs that would be a cool thing if they could. If there was an APP that would overdubbed classic engine noises or go right. Because I'd be thinking start that APP. Homey Tesla Motors not allowed. Because the truck I drove had nobody was a frame with an engine like no one can hear the that motor better than I could. And it just goes. Yeah the light gear one. Yeah right gear wine so I think someone needs to start like creating those sounds and matching your speed and throttle. That's got to be something that's like. Our friend gets music from that place and like someone could do that similar kind of thing. We can talk about this later. Sorry Cod podcast. People like there's let's just say there's ways to extract music from xboxes. There could be a way to extract audio of cars from xboxes that were similar and that could be then patched into an vs like sold on TV plug in where you plug it in fricken civic sounds like a V8. Yeah I do that ever work. I never actually saw one being either. But without that's the that's paid. Who's that guy that buys that I don't think anybody just just mud vayne definitely heard the word mud? Vayne free via why any Travec oh says what makes a comedian standout to you. In your opinion who's the most underrated. Comedian Wow I think the most underrated comedian right. Now is probably John Mullany. Oh He's fucking great. He's so good he's not. Why do you think he's underrated because he's probably famous? I think he's he's famous and he's getting but he's getting a specialist but people aren't talking about him talking about him like they do the other people like he. I think he's going to go down. And the goat like I think. He's his the Ma- the the quality of specialties. Putting out so far And he's just getting into you know the the marriage and everything like this the the the materials just like but he's so tight and the jokes are so like precise and so good and so funny. He's he's kind of like And he's pretty clean. I in a way but not in a way. That's Regan is the funniest live show I've ever seen in my life. And he does not say he says ass. Maybe but dude I mean Seinfeld Ri- Steinfeld is clean and he had the heaviest hitters. Yeah no I thought HORSING HOSPITAL BID. I saw is incredible because that's an incredible bit written down to the world where he broke student loan debt. Yeah he's awesome. It's yeah I mean so yeah. So he's he's only underrated. I think in the sense that I like more people need to be talking. He's not a household name here. One Yeah I think there's talking to your too but he's one under. I like Chris. Porter who was who came as an underrated comedian. He's played on my buddy. Yeah he's very tall. He's probably decent Yeah it was really good He his special ugly and angry is amazing. Yeah there was some Rick Glassman Brent Morin Just the Comedians from that Amazing basketball players. I remember guarding Brent. Like I'm just hung over and he's just like I think my girlfriend was watching me play to like it was bad like we broke up like three weeks later and like. I feel like I had something to do as she's dating head of defense. We missed Felix's question. Yeah I'll be going to school in Long Beach and I want to visit family in Utah every once in a while. Seven hundred miles away. Would you recommend a stock 2013? Focus? St With maybe some bolt ons later of five eight and one hundred and fifty five pounds. Yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't tell you to avoid one Banney front wheel drive car. If you're talking about highway drives is not gonna be as Cruzi as barth. You're driving shorter wheelbases. You know they wrap higher you know I would say maybe consider like a BMW. Three twenty eight to four cylinder. You know it's a little more relaxed on those highway drives or something like that but nothing wrong with the focus has t if you fit in the seats which at five eight nine hundred and fifty five pounds. You WanNa keep it for you like a a mercury Marauder. Oh Dude you gotta really get good seats. They're gonNA have some fucking just sit on a couch. Not Good What else you got Stitch says seeing how underpowered the delicacies. Do you have any plans for a mild tune just so hills in merging with traffic is less stressful tune in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one game genie on. Inter cooled turbine. Just take your laundry out of the back. Fuck Outta of here you. Doesn't you hook up in different car and it does. Yeah Dave says I WANNA get into driving. Simulators is the Logitech wheel. Set a good way to start or should I spend more money you fucked with the simulators more than I did. When we had them we used to. We started with the logitech setup and then we went to a fantastic setup and and I think the Logitech was totally adequate and good. It's it's your thrust master but the Because we had that we thrust master then logitech now is fantastic. Fantastic the high-dollar most expensive one but also as long programming. And you gotta do shit with it. Well the lie detector. Nice 'cause they're belt driven and they're like aluminum gears so you there's less slop and stuff As a full seat to everything. You buy the chair separately. There's a what's it called A. Place heat place makes the chair and the Mount. And then you biennial pedal simulates. No No. That's just a regular chair. If you WanNa talk you want motion. Now you're talking fifty thousand dollars. That's a whole other. Yeah yeah no my friend. My friend Nick has a pretty sick set up. That's got three monitors fantastic paddles fantasy wheel with a manual gearbox and A. Handbrake and a proper big P. C. That he built fort and that set up was like ten g's she's that's no cruising USA. You can get into you. Get a really nice setup for probably under twenty five hundred bucks all y'all in I mean Columbia including like TV an xbox under twenty five hundred total. You get like what's the are if he wanted to for that much just pretty. You can text a good way to start. Don't ever buy the cheapest of anything. No always start in the middle I think. Sam Smith got a setup and he instead of getting a big screen have the space he went with just like the Vr setup and a Logitech wheel seat and everything and so he plays Irish thing like that and it's like it's pretty legit. That's actually great advice for life. Never buy the cheapest of trying to wrack my brain like there must have been one time. I bought the cheap anelle. No never. It's never worthwhile. Never it always costs more in the end by the cheapest thing Vodka is this topic. Except when you're making jungle. 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I mean there's definitely something for like a bill sixties big block or even small block like it's it it sounds a little bit angrier solid. I think the smaller displacement sound amazing. I like the I like the revie one to twelve and I think I'd get off from that engine veto best V ten. I mean you know perform aunt perform Onta- what about Tritan try. What about what are being fifty? Are Straight straight tight writing. I love and the Best Sounding v Twelve. Well that's just there's just too many to even off. I mean they're just all all twelve really. The ZONDA comes to mind but you know video on twitter today of someone driving an old S. six hundred that straight street drifting it very well so if you hear the sound and you think one car and you see around the corner not fast sideways. Exciting you bring. It's very confused those things like. I can't imagine that's that's a perfect Internet car. It's probably terrible to drive that every day. 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Take a weird place to drive Alley meeting here in the garage. We're driving in the garage. Yeah okay sure. Yeah I've I fully got impersonated. We were we reported this guy. A kid with a with a Chrysler seabrook with an intake is like yeah. I thought he wanted to drive it. Always wearing my face as I drove one already. That had the hardtop. This one is the soft top. It's totally different. You know I just get emails all the time from people that are like you drove this thing. That's very similar to what I have except for this one difference that I swear makes all the difference in the world but it's been four years since you drove that last one so even if it did make a difference you'd never I honestly my favorite thing about the whole one take series in its entirety is is is the people like me. There's two types of them. There's the person that's with. Usually they have the cooler car has never had a conversation in their life. 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Tiger, Reuben Foster, and Thrones

The Kevin Sheehan Show

1:55:42 hr | 2 years ago

Tiger, Reuben Foster, and Thrones

"You want? It you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now, here's Kevin. All right. I am here on this Monday. With Aaron this shows presented by window nation. If you're in the market for windows. Call eight six six ninety nation or go to win donation dot com. And tell them that we told you to call. Okay. Quick tweet errand start the show. So we can get a ruling on how to handle the game of thrones discussion. This was from Greg in. Greg wasn't the only person to ask us to at least give a spoiler alert before we start talking about the previous night's show. Amiss was his tweet. He Senate on Friday. He says what's the game of thrones policy going to be on the on the Kevin Sheehan show podcast. I know you are going to want to talk about each episode HBO etiquette says you have to wait a day, and Tom Lavera is not going to sit through a dragon. Laced recap. That's true. The really really fun. If we tried. He said will there be a regular Wednesday segment? I had no idea. There was an HBO at thing. Is that a real thing? I don't know. That's real that. Can't be right. I don't know. That's riddick. Here's my take on it. At least especially for this final season. When it comes to premiere TV like this. You treat it like a live event. This is it's not a movie, it's not something you have to pay to see. It's no different than the masters was yesterday. It somebody could have recorded it recorded in to avoid it. Right. What we will do though we'll say for the very end of the show. That's all the sports out of the way and save it for that. I think that's a reasonable compromise. I mean will will do it on Mondays end the show. Spoiler alert. You know provided in advance. Yes. That'll make it easy for those of you that care and just as easy for those of you who don't care, and I want to by the way, I will make I put something together. It will be very clear when we're about to start talking. Game of thrones. All right. You can bail very good last ten minutes or so of Monday shows than for the next six weeks. I just a short tease I liked last night. And not everyone did. But I did. All right. That's a quick teas, and you can save your thoughts for later on. We'll start the show with sports, and we'll start the show with Tiger Woods, which I think watching that yesterday was one of those memorable sports watching moments of of my sports watching life. I don't want to exaggerate this at all. But I think when people say about a sports event on never forget when yesterday was one of those. I'll never forget the day to Tiger Woods won the master's after eleven years without a major. I'll never forget that. And I think most of you will never forget Tiger Woods winning yesterday's twenty nineteen masters. I mean, there's a lot of those. I'll never forgets, you know, taking. The local stuff out of the equation. Like, none of us will ever forget that we're around for it wriggles run in Super Bowl seventeen. I mean there lots of Redskin plays. And no one's ever gonna forget the caps winning the title. You know, what for sports fans, I bet. Ovechkin one of those moments ever all never forget when Alex Ovechkin finally won that Stanley Cup. You know, I'll never forget when Hank Aaron beat babe. Ruth's record or Ali beat foreman or the miracle on ice or NC state beating Houston or Villanova beating Georgetown in golf. It's you know before yesterday was all never forget the eighty six masters and is run on the back nine to win. The eighty six masters at forty six years old. It's it's in that category. It is I don't want to. I don't want to overly you know, exaggerate it. You know, I don't wanna put it. I I I don't wanna put it in a place where it doesn't deserve it. But I think yesterday Tiger Woods winning the masters desire. Serves it. It moves the needle. He does. Tiger Woods does. Like, no other athlete in this country. Let alone may be. He may be the biggest needle mover in the world. I mean, somebody may say certain soccer player playing certain game would be the biggest needle mover. Maybe the completion of his comeback is the greatest of the mall, the greatest comebacks of the mall. You can scoff at that and say, well, it's golf, but the man could barely walk three years ago. He's had four back surgeries. The last one was a fusion of his l five s one back disc for those that have had lower back issues. And I'm one of those I've had to l five s one surgeries, you know, that there is very little from a pain standpoint that compares to nerve pain. It's the worst. He had no quality of life couldn't sleep because he couldn't comfortable enough. To sleep. He was on painkillers maybe even addicted to painkillers. He couldn't leave the house. He could barely function as human being the pain was debilitating. And he was trying to do everything he could to just limit the pain. So he could sleep. So that he can leave that he could leave the house painkillers sleeping pills. Zanex all of it. I I'm not gonna make this about me. But I do wanna share a story that I've shared before. Because it if for me was personal and it weighs into what we saw yesterday in my claim that yesterday was the best comeback of them. All in terms of athlete comebacks some of you. Remember that listened to cooling I on radio he showed up for his tournament at congressional the PR day, which was a few months in advance. This was about three years this was three years ago. And we had scheduled an opportunity to sit down with tiger. Later and recorded interview, our show is over and we recorded the interview and he walked up to where we were and he started walking over towards our table. And there was an uncomfortable. Look that he gave towards the chair that was seated in front of us, and he looked at the chair, and he looked back at the person that had walked over. I guess it was somebody from his group, and I got up because I knew exactly what he was referring to the chair had no back. It had no back to it. And he wasn't going to sit there. And I said don't worry you're not gonna sit in that chair. Go get you more comfortable chair. And I went and found another chair for him to sit in and while I was away CJ or cooler, somebody said Kevin's had multiple back surgeries too. So when I got back with the chair, he asked me about it. And that started a twenty minute conversation with Tiger Woods about our back surgeries. I'd had to l five s one disgust Amies. He had already had three of them. And the next one was going to be and I remember saying to him. I said if you need it again, it's going to be a fusion, right. And he said yet next one's a fusion. And we talked for twenty minutes about our respective back surgeries and talked about how much the pain affected and impacted his life from picking up his kids and holding them his kids were young, which by the way parenthetically is one of those motions that can completely wreck your lower back. I remember when I was going through to my youngest was still young, and I had to be careful about bending down and picking them up. In fact, Jason day in the opening round of the masters the other day through his backout, you know, how he did it picking up his young son or daughter young one of his young children. So tiger that day talked about how he hoped that. His most recent l five s one surgery would be enough. But he wasn't sure. And I remember him saying. When I asked them about the fusion, I said is is a fusion surgery next. He said it it would be I'm trying to hold off on that. Because if I have that surgery probably means I'll never play competitive golf again. And the fusion surgery is supposed to take away certain level of explosiveness that you have with that lower back. But he said if I get there have to get there because I have to be able to live more comfortably. Anyway, I'll never forget that conversation, and I told him by the way before we ended up starting to record the actual interview. I just said to him I go lots of ice, and he just smiled and said that ice packs had become his best friend. So this is the greatest comeback story ever from my perspective Ali one a title at a very old age. But he beat Leon Spinks. Peyton Manning appeared to have an injury that wouldn't allow him to throw a football again that was a remarkable comeback in the first. Year in Denver in the numbers. He put up were amazing when they won the Super Bowl. They did it with primarily defense Jordan came back after two years of trying to play baseball. And he was still at an age still athletically, gifted Agassi, Andre Agassi fell out of the rankings and Phil so low in the rankings that he had to play satellite tournaments before returning to the main tore for what turned out to be a monster second act of his career actually made his third act in it was unexpected. But he was still relatively young by the way Agassi's career ended in part because of age but mostly in part because he had major lower back issues going on towards the end of his career. Tiger Woods had to take shots had to take painkillers had to take, you know, a high level, you know, anti inflammatories. Just a function where a year and a half away from him. Not even being. Able to swing a golf club. That was just a year and a half ago. This is the greatest comeback ever. And it was completed yesterday. He's been in the process of making it the greatest comeback ever just by competing at the level that he's been competing at remember. He was in the lead at the British Open last summer on the back nine in Molinaro ended up winning that tournament. He shot sixty five on the final day the PGA championship in August. In nearly beat Brooks KEPCO from behind. He won the tour the season ending toward championship in Atlanta. You know, it was all ready close to one of the greatest comebacks of all time and he just completed yesterday. It was an amazing sports moment. An amazing sports moment from year and a half ago. Not even being able to swing a club from having to go to a surgery that a lot of orthopedics would tell you took away a lot of his his explosiveness, and some doubted that he'd ever be able to compete at that level. They did say remember we had actually my worth the PD surgeon on the show, and he's become a good friend of mine in he said he'll be able to play golf again. It's just a question of whether or not he'll be able to get it to the point where he can play at that level. Although he didn't discount it a couple of observations from the tournament in from Tigers day yesterday that I didn't wanna forget to mention first of all I'm surprised that Molinari fell apart. A he appeared to a been a machine. For this entire tournament by the way, coming into this tournament he's been playing so well he won here for his first win ever at congressional last summer and then went on to win the British Open. And he's been you know, he's been a monster. Every since I was really surprised he fell apart. You know, you hit it in the water at twelve and then hit a branch knocked it into the water into the creek and fifteen and he was done. I mean went from a two shot lead to a to shut deficit in a few holes. I was also very surprised that kept ca missed the putt at eighteen. I thought he was going to make that putt and force tiger to par eighteen to avoid a playoff. I at the beginning of the day. I felt KEPCO was gonna win. He's become the clutch performer in the sport. He had won three majors in the last seven two of the last three coming in. And he had had some injuries. He didn't play in the masters last year. He looks to me like the guy that's gonna win, you know, six seven majors not for. Eighteen or fifteen tiger got his fifteenth. But I thought most of the day the winner would come from either kept cut Ramallah Nari. I really didn't think watching it. Tiger was gonna win. I was hoping it was a compelling watch. But the tournament really changed at twelve when KEPCO I in the group before tiger, Molinari and female kept the hit it into the water. And then Molinari did as part of tigar's group and tiger hit it on the green and two putted for par. Second ob- survey Shen about yesterday's that tiger didn't win in fluke fashion. You know, terrible weather or the best players were out of the field or most of them didn't play. Well, I mean Rory didn't play well this weekend, and he was a prohibitive favorite. And rose was either the second or the third favourite, and he didn't make the cut shockingly, but tiger one against many many of the young ins playing great KEPCO, Dustin Johnson day. Female Rahm Zander Shaw flea who was in. It can't lay was in it. You know, again, Rory wasn't a factor this weekend, but tiger survived a push from some of the world's best on the back nine at a major. It was not a gimme was not a fluke. Not at all third observation about yesterday in watching this. I was not sitting there on social media. I just when I'm into something. I am not sitting there tweeting about it unless it's a Redskins game or game of one of our local teams. My son was and he's like he's blowing up Twitter, and I did have a sense not even being on social media that yesterday even though it was a Sunday morning early afternoon that the whole world was watching, you know, it was an odd start because they wanted to beat the terrible storms that came in yesterday afternoon for a lot of people in the southeast and the midwest. But you know, it just felt like you were. Sitting there participating in watching something as tiger took the lead in the back nine that if you're a sports fan, casual or or you know, really into it or just anybody in the world knew what was going on in Gusta Georgia yesterday late morning early afternoon. The next observation about yesterday. There is nothing better than a redemption story in sports in particular, especially when that person or athlete has achieved a level of greatness previously that few of achieved to see that person have a second act, third, whatever whatever it is. You just it's there's something so incredibly compelling about that it doesn't matter what the person did most of us route for that person to fight back and win again tiger cheated on his wife with waitresses and porn stars. And just about anything that moved. And none of that mattered yesterday. The significant majority of you the audience wanted him to win and have been rooting for him since he came back just over a year ago. I mean, Michael Vick did one of the most heinous things ever something that people absolutely said he they would never forgive yet. Many were were really rooting for his redemption story when he started to play well in Philadelphia there really is nothing like a, you know, someone who's fallen the way tiger had fallen personal life professional life, physical health, and then comes back from that people love to watch people come back from, you know, rock bottom, which he was at in two thousand nine two thousand ten the next thing that I wanted to mention have you ever seen. Anybody of Tigers Zilk one of the most famous people on the planet. A must watch performer be such a boring interview. He has nothing to say the attraction in Tiger Woods is solely in him as the performer the attraction of the attraction to him is his greatness as a golfer the recent attraction him as as mentioned is also, you know, sort of what's involved in that is the journey back from rock bottom. That's a big part of how people feel about him now. But watching him pursue it and is different than watching him talk about pursuing it. He is truly truly one of the most boring interviews of anybody with that profile that I've ever seen Ali was must watch in the ring and outside of it, Jordan. You know, I know he didn't have a lie. Lot to say in. He was so narrowly focused on everything, but Jordan had some incredible charisma to him. You know tiger in an interview. There's nothing there, man. I'm not saying, he's not smart. I think he's very very bright. I just think he has this very protective shield like it's a very he's very mechanical in the way, he handles these things. Anyway, that was just an observation. The next one is this about him in yesterday in the question of will this lead to more. Nobody nobody knows if he'll win another major. But I think that it's like unquestionable, by the way all of this presumes health, right? I mean, we're having a conversation about his future. And obviously the the assumption is that he remains healthy. Because if he doesn't that he's not gonna win anything else. But if he remains healthy he's going to win more tournaments. I don't know if they're going to be majors, but he's gonna win more. You know, he's going to contend at majors. He had already contended at the last two coming into the masters. He had the lead the British is as I mentioned and had a chance to win from behind it the PGA August, he's now had a legit chance in the last three major championships and yesterday closed it out and one I don't know will it opened up the floodgates. He's playing Bethpage next month in the PGA championship, which if you didn't know has been moved from August to may Players Championship got moved to March. So you're going to have in order now moving forward masters PGA championship US open and the open championship the British Open in order. So the major championships in golf will be over by the time we get to late July. No August, you know, they're they're not. They don't wanna they didn't want the PGA championship to compete with people on vacation. It was the last. It was the least important of the four major. As you know, believe it or not preseason football had already started when and people actually watched that, even though it's the worst product and all sports, I think, but I don't know. I mean, he's had a chance now to win three majors in a row. I of course, he's going to contend yesterday wasn't a fluke as I mentioned it wasn't against a soft field. It wasn't against some sort of extenuating weather circumstance golf is nothing without him to most of you. And now with him in it got it makes next month PGA championship at a place. He's one Bethpage Black a must watch. He's one at Pebble Beach. That's the US open in June. Best thing about a west coast. US open is you're sitting there watching it into the late like ten o'clock at night. It's still going on. It's it's in on the east coast. It's a primetime event. I got news for you right now, if you wanna see ratings imagine the primetime ratings. Of a US open at Pebble Beach with tiger in contention on Saturday night and Sunday night. That will be the Alzheimer. He's fifteen now, you know, Jackson eighteen and now that's really what the rest of this is about Willie get to Jackson eighteen he's forty three years old. He's got three more majors this year. He's got five to seven more years of playing at least four year, maybe more than that. I mean, that's the thing about golf now he stays fit. He's got twenty eight to thirty eight more majors in them as a legit contender potentially. And he's only got to get three more to tie, Jack. You know who had a good weekend at forty eight years old. Phil mickelson. He was in it. He was finished after day one. He was in second place. He had a good weekend. I would bet you right now that if he stays healthy he will in his fifties lead a major at some point fifty one v. Fifty three fifty five years old. I mean, Tom Watson led the British Open at fifty eight or fifty nine years old whenever that was what a day what a day Tigers masters. Win of twenty nineteen is one of those sports moments as a sports fan that you'll never forget never forget. You're not a golf guy. Right. I'm not a golf were you watching. I was I was in the press box that NATs park and ills lengthy it such a big thing, they even had some of the TV's on the masters, and I pulled it also pull it up on my computer. I can only imagine that they had it. I mean, they don't normally put stuff up on the other TV's nobody wanted to be anywhere yesterday. If they had to be other than in front of their television watching tiger do this. I still going back to my first, you know, point. I I'm surprised you want. I didn't think he was gonna win. I thought he needed to be in the lead after Sam. Saturday, and he was in the final group, which was a big step to get into that final group in the only reason he was in the final group was because of the weather and he got into the final group because they went to threesomes teeing off front and back nine to get the final round in before the weather. The expected weather was to come through if it had been normal. Whether he would have been in the next alas group fee now and Molinari would have been the final pairing because fee now got his number. I first in last out tiger would have been in the next last group. I wonder if that would change things if Molinaro and fee now had been able to go around without tiger in their group. You know, there was clearly, you know, there is an impact to these players when they play with tiger Molinari came through it at the British over the summer, but tiger I felt going into it needed to be in the lead. This is his first major championship coming from. Hind. The previous fourteen were either with him in the lead or tied for the lead in the final group on Sunday. Anyway, incredible sports day. I love by the way, just loved it that started and nine in the morning yesterday was great. Oh, I I definitely like that a lot better. It's one of the I know it's not good for ratings. But it was great as of your. Yeah. I I don't know have the ratings come out yet barely it was a point lower than last. Yeah. I mean, the the time of day was going to impact that for sure they also replayed. It it reared. But most watched it in the morning, but I'm sure that I wonder if there is a way they could combine the rearing with the whatever I love the British Open never rates. Well, because it's a morning telecast. But from a convenience standpoint what's better than waking up on Sunday morning and watching the masters. It was great. We'll get to March layby who is there. A Mark, of course, has been with ESPN forever and has been one of their key college football writers forever. And I've had him on the podcast and the radio show talking college. Football. But he covers golf for them as well. And he was there and we had Scott on last week. We'd sands on on Friday. I'm going Scott will be on again Thursday. So we'll talk a lot about the masters when he's on Thursday. And we're going to try to get buried some point who is there covering it for the post as well quick word about window nation. It's window nation spring cleaning sales event right now are your windows having issues cracks hard to open unusual moisture or you just window shopping. If so call window nation today and schedule a free in-home estimate. There's no risk of free in home estimate window nation will save you. Thirty three percent off your entire purchase. And that's window siding and doors, get up front pricing. No hidden terms. 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What was it like to be there? You've been at a lot of big sporting events over your career. What was yesterday like? It was probably at the top. I mean, I I've been there before when I was at the Atlanta Journal. I was there when Ben Crenshaw one. I was the first time. I was there in tiger. One and two I was there for eight Norman's collapse goes in college at the time, you know, and I've been Super Bowls and was there for game six when the cubs won the World Series. And so that was huge. But I mean, just the, you know, just the backstory of what he's come back from it self inflicted, you know, at that place, which I think is most special place, you know, sporting venue on earth and just listened to the the galleries and the patrons roar every time and the and the way he did it coming from two shots back at the start of the day. I think he was down three after eleven, you know, it's good for golf. It's it's it's really good for the PGA tour. I think to see guys like Bernhardt longer, and Justin Thomas and Bubba Watson. You know, waiting around to congratulate him. I think they I mean, it's. You know, the ratings speak for themselves speak for themselves the interest. I think he'll be back up. And now, you know, we've got a race or chase to see tiger can catch Jack Nicklaus. AT majors did to some of that here in a moment. Watching the tournament. I felt like I didn't believe that Molinari was going to break. He did at twelve. And I definitely didn't think that KEPCO would miss that putt at eighteen. In fact, the whole day is I'm watching it there with my one of my three sons, I just said it's going to be kept at the end of this. This do just seems unbreakable unflappable, and it's clutch performer is there is in the sport right now. Which of those things surprise you. Did you did you have a similar sense watching it, or did you think tiger was it was going to prevail? Eventually, ultimately, you know, you're sitting there Saturday, and one of my editors that you know, you should start riding a tiger wins column. And I was like he's not gonna. Win. And you know, watched how the rest of the day transpired where you have four or five guys within striking distance Tigers just a couple of shots back and just in my gut. You know, I just felt like it was gonna happen. You know, meant to happen. It was meant to happen for him. It was meant to happen for for golf. And so I started writing Saturday night and had to Colorado to go right with plus so on eighteen, but you know, Molinari's was the biggest surprise to me. 'cause the dude is an absolute machine one boat in the first fifty four holes. Hey back on Thursday. You know, he made putt after putt after putz the front nine the first nine, and it just seemed like every time you thought tiger was maybe gonna get a stroke Mullen, drain one from twelve or fifteen feet and to see him Plunkett in the water on twelve and then click the tree on fifteen. You know, it was it was really surprising because he has been you know, since the open champ. And ship last year. Probably in ROY the two most steady players in the world. You know, I wrote Saturday night when we were picking we thought it was gonna win I picked tiger. And I said that you know, one guy was going to sleep better than everybody else. And it was gonna be Tiger Woods because he's been there, you know times. And he knew you know, he'd been there four times he knew what it took. He knew what it was like two to play in front of galleries were the patrons thirty deep and windy conditions with the storms coming in. You know, his course knowledge and just having played it so much one there. I think I think he's put him over the top. But I grew with yacht kept up. I mean, you know, he he may get a couple of Ichi may get best base. But that guy, you know, he doesn't get enough respect. And it'll be the first one to tell you doesn't get enough respect and just seems to thrive off of it. You mentioned about some of the players who were sitting there waiting for him. Poulter was sitting there waiting for him. I was surprised. But KEPCO is there, and I thought Tigers embraced with him was his warm as as any of the other players did anything did any of that surprise you people who were there? And was it a surprise that someone wasn't there? Where did you not give it much thought? I it was. Many. I think that people don't realize, and I wrote about it McCollum so gosh two years ago tiger thought he was done. Right. I mean, he had that that's final using surgery and basically had to come by from scratch and the first time he said this week the first time he had a driver it like ninety oars, and he was afraid to take the full swing, and it was guys like Rickie Fowler and DJ JT and kept got guys like that who were playing rounds with him down in Florida just to get him back into the to the. Rhythm of playing and playing competitive golf, and you know, Johnny Kauffman said this week, he's completely different person. And again, you know, a lot of the stuff you went through with self inflicted with his ex wife, a DUI and some other things, but you know, I it humbled him. And they say is completely different guy. You know, he talks a lot more to his playing partners. When he when he's internal. He's a lot more interactive with the saints. He's friendly with the media. I think he is a change person. And I think that's what you military does to think I think he's learned a lot of last year's all right? Let's talk about what's next. I think all of us that have watched. And I, you know, since his comeback, you know, a year and a half ago when it started. I I I've missed very little of each round. He's played everywhere. He's played in last year. Was so exciting at the end in Atlanta. And you know, when he had a. Chance legitimate chance with the lead on the back nine against Molinari at the British and at a chance with that sixty five on the final day against kept at the PGA. So he has contended. But I think so many people thought, you know, including me, I don't is he going to actually come through and win a major, by the way. I don't think anybody doubted that he was going to win at tournament especially after seeing him last year and a couple of those key spots early on when he actually did contend. But what do you think moving forward? I mean is Jackson teen now much more in range than maybe you thought it was before you know, what what's the what's the post master's twenty nineteen Tiger Woods career. Look like. One at Bethpage where the next month. He's one at Pebble Beach having US open one about fifteen strokes. There's a long time ago. But you know, he he said yesterday that when he wanted Atlanta the two championship that it proved to him that that he could win tournament. And then this past week crews doing that he could win a major. So I think he could grab Bethpage. I think he could grab Tele beach. I don't know that that will Porsche fitches game real. Well, I don't know if anybody knows never implied there. But you know, I just I think you get one more. But I think, you know, I don't think Brooks Kapka Ori McElroy, Dustin jobs, Jordan speech can get his game together. Those guys are gonna just step aside. But I think if he can get one more this summer, you know, I think he's got a legitimate chance. And you know, he's forty three years. I think he's got five or six more years ending his back holds up and he doesn't. Any other health issues, you know, Mickelson's about to be forty nine. And he's gonna be a factor every time he goes to after. So I think you know, I think I think Jack's record is is in danger. No question about it. Yeah. I mean, the thing about the sport, you know, obviously all of this conversation assumes health because if he's not healthy that changes everything. But if he's healthy, he's forty three he's going to play competitive golf, meaning four majors year for at least the next five to seven years. And we know this sport that we've had guys in their fifties. At the top of the leaderboard, whether it was couples, you know, you're near the top of the Libor boarded at Augusta. I mean, hell, Greg Norman, Tom watt. Tom Watson was Layton his fifties. I think he was fifty eight fifty nine when he had the lead on the final day at the British whenever that was ten years ago. He's he's gonna have so many chances Mark. This isn't a sport where you know age that the end is coming that. It's not the end age wise is still in the distance. If the if these hold up and the back backhoe the back, right? But you know, he. He played. What was he forty four th and driving this this week? He's this guy that used to hit it forty yards past everybody. And I think he's a da- pted his game and adjusted and he's relying on you know, Tita green, and he's relying on his putting and that was the big question for me coming in the week Connie's because he hadn't really putted. Well, when he when he played so far this year. Yeah. I mean, it it. It's gonna be fun. And I'm glad I'm covering off hits fitness into the college football because it's it's going to be great. Yeah. I mean, you've got to to my favorite sports to cover. What's more likely that he gets to number one in the world again or he wins? I don't know two more majors. I think the majors I just don't know if he'll play him off right at the number one. I think he's gonna pick and choose. I think he probably goes the Charlotte before the PGA. But you know, I don't think he's gonna be playing as much as young as I think what six go to sits this morning. Yeah. Number. Yeah. Twelve to six I mean, you'll get in the top five. But I still think there's a lot of good players. I think Justin Rose terrible week is going to be the top CAC amok with you know, guys keep playing the oh guys coming. I mean, it's only a matter of time for Zander Shaath leave, you know, some of those other guys that were up near the top. You know, it's it's there's it's deep and there's a lot of talent. I just don't know that there's a dominant player, and I think that gives tiger chance. All right. Well, yeah, we'll finish up a finish up with a with a college football question. I it is going to be bam and Clemson again next year or not. I think the two favorites. I think certainly Clinton with the wars going quarterback. You know, I said before last season I thought he would win two is monds at least. And and I think we saw last year that he's certainly capable that. I think is good at the Shawn Watson was Trevor Lawrence as as a generational player. I think with the size and the arm strength, and the mobility and his confidence. I think you know, you're gonna get shot. They play all defensive linemen, which isn't gonna be easy. But I just don't see anybody in the ACC who can really compete with them. Bama to got to stay healthy. I think he was banged up at the end of last year replace their entire secondary. You know, I don't think there is talented. They were maybe five years ago. I think the recruiting slipped a little bit since curfew smart left, and generally prude left and some other guys and a huge number of of new coaches again this year, but you know, I think I think. Alabama's probably one in the SEC. I think Georgia's probably two and Georgia's just gotta prove they can beat Bama over the home and a high of states can have just in fields as their quarterback next year in the big ten which will be interesting to watch. I always love catching up with you on college football. But really enjoyed the conversation about tiger. You're you're lucky enough to be there yesterday. I can only imagine what it felt like because the electricity at the end. There was incredible watching it on television. Thanks so much, Mark. As always appreciate it. Like I thanks to Mark someone who was there yesterday. To gust. I'm gonna get Reuben foster next quick word about launch workplaces. 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Now, if you call and you mentioned my name, you'll get an exclusive free two day trial at the Bethesda facility to four zero eight hundred sixty seven fourteen or visit launch workplaces dot com today that's two four zero eight hundred sixty seven fourteen or launch or places dot com. All right. Let's get to Reuben foster. The league announced Friday that will not suspend Reuben foster no suspension. Very surprising to me I predicted. He would get suspended. I thought he would even after the charges were dropped off the Tampa situation on the league found that foster did not violate violate its personal conduct policy. But they did find him to game checks for violating conditions that the league required of him after he was suspended for the two games last season to start the year in San Francisco. So Reuben foster no suspension, I'm gonna start with this the no suspension in the moment. Makes Bruce Allen and the Redskins. Look good. You know, it makes them look. Right. There's really no other way to spin it. You know, I Tommy is going to be on with me tomorrow. I I'm I know he's got a spin of his own. He wrote a column sterile. And we'll talk more. In depth about why he thinks they're still red flags everywhere in there are but for different reasons from his perspective, but it's really hard. I don't even think Tommy would debate that Friday's news. That Reuben foster wasn't suspended made the Redskins look good. And right. It really. Did. It doesn't mean they were right. But it makes them look. Right. And for them. I can promise you this. There was celebration. You know, why? Because while they had some level of confidence that he that this latest situation. Tampa was really nothing that would come back in haunt him in the in the way of an arrest. And they thought that he would be vindicated and that they would look good for what happened in Tampa. They weren't totally sure they took in picking him off waivers a risk. They were one of only thirty two teams to do it. They took a PR hit. They took a business it, but they believed in the moment that it was worth the risk. And for now, it looks like that risk has started to pay off. So I will start this conversation by knowledge in that no suspension for Reuben foster makes Bruce Allen and dance Neider in the moment. Look, right. Look good. I mentioned those two because I don't think anybody else was involved in the decision. They love. Loved him in the two thousand seventeen draft and when he became available. They did some quick due diligence got comfortable enough after talking to some of his former teammates were also red skins. All right. And they did they talked to some of them. They talked to Shawn Deehan Hamilton. They've talked to Ryan Anderson guys that were in the position group meetings in knew him and they got comfortable enough to claim him. It's paid off so far in the form of his availability. His immediate availability. He will be available to the Redskins with no suspension. We'll see if it pays off in terms of performance that still the come in for those by the way that thought it was stupid to claim claim him because he's not even that good. I said at the time those people are wrong. He is a talent. I think he's got a chance to be a very good player. Of course that implies that he stays out of trouble. Now while I believe that Friday was a good day for Bruce. And Dan it still does. Not change the fact that they handled it poorly. These are two separate conversations some of you struggle with this. So I'll say it very slowly the conversation about how they handled it is different from the conversation about them doing it. Don't tell me what I said. And didn't say back in November. I know what I said. And I stand by it, I never presumed guilt or innocence. It was never about that. I didn't think the skins should be the team claiming him on such short turnaround. I thought it was the wrong thing to do. All right. They've proven themselves, right. And they've made themselves. Look good in the moment. By the fact, that he was that the charges were dropped in the league didn't suspend. I thought it was too much of a risk. I was open to the possibility that the Redskins knew more than anybody else because of his Alabama connections with teammates. In their locker room. I said there was a chance that they may be had information that could fully exonerate Reuben foster. But I also said at the time that I hated the way to handle it. I hate the way they handle a lot of these things I think they're cowardly and the way they handle a lot of these things, including the Scott McLean situation. And the anonymous leaks to the postie they did smear him in the post with anonymous quotes, they did that was the wrong way to handle it understand this though, they were justified termination, and it was proven wrongful termination suit against the Redskins was not successful from Scott McLean standpoint, the Redskins prevailed on that I predicted that at the time even though at the same time. I thought it was incredibly mean spirited and low rent with the anonymous leaks to the post about a guy that was really struggling with alcohol issues now on this particular situation at the time it. Was much more about the Redskins handling of it. I hated the way they handled the Reuben foster thing they stuck dug out there, and he messed up and then had to apologize. I believed instead at the time that Bruce should've gotten out there, Dan, but more likely than not it would have been Bruce as the team president, Dan doesn't speak. He's a recluse. All right. Bruce shoulda gotten out there and face. The media manned men and women and said, we did this because we wanna win he should have owned it. And by the way, he'd look even better today if he had owned it we did it because we believed he could help us win period. If he did these things he was accused of hill never suit up for us are signing of Reuben foster doesn't mean we don't domestic violence, not even close to that. We don't and then he could have listed the various charities in the events that Tonya Snyder in the team at and everybody of supported over the years, but it should have come out and been direct and said the league's going to conduct its. Investigation. And they'll tell us if he's eligible, and he might play for us down the road, if he's eligible, he might not he may he may not meet our requirements, but you're going to rip us, regardless of whatever we do. And our only goal right now is to win football games. It's the only way out of this mess that we've gotten ourselves into over a decade. Plus, we think he can help us win football games. If he's innocent of these charges questions. That's how should have been handled. I didn't like the way they handled it. I also didn't like the risk. They were taking. I was with the other thirty one teams that didn't take the risk. I don't think the red skins should have been the team taking the risk. In addition to. I thought the risk was too high. But for the moment right now, you have to say, I don't think there's another position to take that that dropped charges and the no suspension by the league is a result. That makes the Redskins right now when it comes to Reuben foster looked like they were right to sign him. Again, doesn't mean that you can't have a problem with the way it was handled handled cowardly by Bruce Allen. And Dan Snyder, shoving dug out there. There were other ways to handle it. They have not gotten that part. Right. They may have gotten Reuben foster, right? He can play. He can absolutely play. And you put him at inside linebacker, maybe with Shawn Deehan. Hamilton and pain and Alan in front of him. And who knows Ryan Anderson on the outside. And I mean, it's just this defense. Landon Collins in the back, you got a lot of Bama players. You got a lot of players that have been very successful in college. And at least two of them so far in Alan pain have been very successful. Or at least the beginning would appear of successful and fell careers. Ruben fosters talent, man, he is a talent the Redskins made this statement that was very to me. I I liked it in that. They did not south congratulate at all that would have been the worst mistake to make. If they were, you know, trying to shove this in the face of people that that that said that it was the wrong thing to do a self congratulation for them should never happen. There's nothing to congratulate themselves about until they start to win. And I'm talking about winning. In January and February which hasn't happened in years to be exact fourteen years since their last playoff win. Right. Fourteen years. Right. A witness two thousand six January two thousand six when they went to Tampa and one that's their last playoff win. So it's going to be fourteen years this coming year, but they also talked in their statement about a lot of things that Reuben foster has to do and some restrictions, and there it was a very protective written press release about how despite the fact that there's no suspension and the charges were dropped. They are still going to pay attention to the issues that he's had and try to be protective of him. Tommy wrote something about well. If there's nothing to worry about why do you have to be so protective, but we know why they have to be protective. He's had multiple arrests charges cetera in just a few years. So this is a guy that's gotten into some issues. Now. This particular issue with this particular woman could be much about her even mostly about her. But we also know that the northern California district attorney after she recanted. Those I the on the first charges. They all thought that she was beaten by him in that first thing, but talked about how victims of domestic violence often end up being put into that position of having to recant for a lottery since but anyway, netting it out hard argue that Reuben foster no suspension makes the Redskins look anything. But right in the moment as far as football goes again, not to be dead horse. He can help he can help a lot in it looks like he's going to be able to help from day one predictions. I'm not going to predict because you know, what the truth of the matter is it's fifty fifty on him moving forward. It's fifty fifty on the personal side of it would any of you disagree with those. Odds right now that there's a fifty percent chance that he never has another issue. And there's a fifty percent chance that he does most of you would put those odds heavily in favor of more likely than not there will be another issue. So it's fifty fifty at best as a player, hopefully, you know, he performs which he can't. He's got terrific talent. Maybe this was the perfect team. Because of the relationships he has with his former college teammates. Maybe this is the team he needed to go to to get his act together. You know, we talked about Tigers redemption story, certainly this wouldn't compare necessarily. But rooting for second chances as always been something that I think is human and empathetic, and certainly anybody that's rooting against him has something wrong with them. I hope it works out for him. I that's that. All right. We're going to do a ton of draft talk over the next two weeks. We're actually ten days away from night one of the draft in Dane Brugge ler who is a draft analyst for the. Athlete. He joins us now Dame. Thanks so much for making time for us. I wanna start with Redskins related stuff. And then we can move on towards everything in and everybody else. First of all they've got nine picks in this draft and lots of needs yet much of the talk among fans of the team. The fan base is whether or not they'll use one or some of those pics to make a move for Josh Rosen or potentially move up to take a quarterback earlier in the draft. What your guests on what the skins do at quarterback as of as of ten days before the draft. Well, earn such an interesting spot because they don't have a top ten pick five BIC, you know, they're picking squarely in the middle of the first round. And so, you know, they're kind of at the mercy of the first fourteen teams in front of them in terms of how the quarterback off the board. You know, how many quarterbacks are available the right quarterback. There do any of these quarterbacks. You know, impressed them enough worth worth packaging picks to go. Get your guy, you know. There's so many different variables here with with the Redskins, and how they're going to tack this quarterback, you know, situation because you know, obviously with the depth chart the way it is. You know, I don't think that they feel overly confident in that. But you know is Josh Rosen a possibility or do they have their eye on one of these quarterbacks? Whether it's through locked in Missouri. Dana Jones from doing, you know, I think the toughest part. About you know, when you're doing a mock draft or you're trying to project these picks this year is just figuring out what the quarterbacks are gonna land. I think we all feel semi confident that calorie will be the first pick Arizona, but you know, at this time last year, we felt confident Dom would be the first pick the Cleveland Brown. Right. Number one. So it we just don't know. And after just say does go one who's the next quarterback off the board? And where does he go is at top ten did the giant that six the Broncos at ten the Bengals eight it's really a guessing game at this point trying to figure out where these quarterback you're going to land and the Redskins right there and then mix so it's really hard to have any confidence about how they're going to attack the quarterback position in this draft. Whether it's going to be in the first round or maybe they wait until the third round and get a will Greer someone like that? So, you know, I I it's really hard that many confident even you know, we're under two weeks. Or just or close. Yeah. Two weeks now before the draft and even now, it's hard avenue coffin. It's about where would Josh Rosen be on your two thousand nineteen draft board of quarterbacks he'd be number one. But the judge throws in discussions it's difficult because I'll be the first to admit that all of us on the outside looking in. We only have so much information in terms of how to evaluate the quarterback this because so much if an intangible position, you know, so much depends on you know, how he interacted with teammates the leadership skills. You know, how he does during the week, and, you know, more so than any other position where you know, you can really go based off the tape, and what you hear and all that. But with a quarterback, you know, it's what Patrick Mahomes coming at Texas Tech such difficult evaluation for everybody else because we don't know how he did on the whiteboard, we don't know mentally where he wasn't a development when he was coming out of college. And that's kind. Josh Rosen the tape. There's a lot of like there's a lot to like about skillset physical skill set when he brings the field, but there's also some questions about, you know, just the leadership how interact with teammates, and no one has a better idea that than yours colonels who had him in the building the last year. And I'm gonna understanding of how we how does the situation. So while I do believe that he would be the first quarterback on my board, and this strap we only have you know, so much of the information. And it feels like there's pieces of the puzzle that are just missing for those about the outside looking in. You know, you just mentioned something that's so true. For those of you who do this in those of us that follow it? And and talk about you know, we like and who we don't and for the teams as well. But on the outside looking in. We don't get the chance you don't get the chance to do the the due diligence required to make sure that you're not just drafting a guy with great. Physical talent. But you're drafting a guy that loves football. It's going to work at it. It's gonna be a good teammate that has leadership ability all of those things that you know, as an example, the Redskins completely whiffed on when they made the massive trade in two thousand twelve to trade up for Robert Griffin, the third they missed on all of those, you know, for the lack of a better description, psychological do diligence checklist items in so we're all guessing like we've heard so much about Rosen and his interests off the field, and does he really football, and he comes from affluence and all of that stuff. But we don't really have any idea. But what you're saying is on the physical side. He would be your number one quarterback in this particular draft. But like, you know, I think it's just a fair point. This is such a crap shoot for all of us, and it is to a certain degree for the teams to and they get a chance to talk to these guys and their coaches and their teammates. Right. Exactly as you know, I do this for a living. I mean. I do this twenty four seven three hundred sixty five days out of the year. I am watching tape working on players, you know, working my contacts or the league. And you know, I'm not arrogant enough to think that you know, I can nail these quarterbacks because you know, like, we said, we're we're just there's a piece of the puzzle that we're missing 'cause we don't get the fully understand where they are in that mental development and just how they interact 'cause again quarterback. It's seal franchise it's more so than just a physical traits and what they do in the field. There's it's so much. So such an involved physician. I it's an intangible position so much goes into it. And so, yeah, I it's it can be difficult because like you said even team that spend a lot of money a lot of resources with colleges than you know, just all these different resources that are disposal to figure out what makes a quarterback tick. And you know, just coming from the college level to the pro level, and what they were asked to do in college. And how different it is. Compared to the NFL. You know, there's it's so involved in you know, that kind of the discussion with column, you know, he's coming from an offense that was tailor-made for him in a conference that didn't play defense. And so that's more than just the size, and some other factors that the bigger worry for me just how he's going to translate coming from that offense at OU Lincoln Riley and going to face the speed of the NFL in offense that maybe that perfectly tailored to his skill set. So the quarterback position so fascinating. And you know, the Redskins right writing sick of what's fascinating is which you also said earlier in that is at this point last year. Everybody had Sam darnold essentially as the top pick. And then it became Baker Mayfield. And for you know, a month. Plus, maybe two months now there's been this assumption that because cliff Kingsbury is the coach in zone that the cardinals are gonna take Murray. What percent chance do you give it right now? Ten days before the first round the Kyle. Murray is the first pick verses. We get a so much happens here over the final ten days, and it's a complete shift in it ends up being someone else. Yeah. And you know, I it's tough. I I would say seventy five percent. You know, it's try to kind of be very weary of what you hear this time of the year. There's a lot of misinformation out there. But I, you know, I think the fact that there's so many bread crumbs here. The the fact that calamari chose the agent that he did sharing an agent clips Kingsbury not a coincidence. You know, the the fact that the cardinals are an organization that have shown they're not afraid to move on from a decision just they made a year ago and fired their head coach after one year brought in cliff Kingsbury and not not to say the Josh Rosen. Wasn't it just a total failure? But if they see an opportunity to upgrade at the sports at any sports, most important position than makes sense that you would do that. And so, you know, I get why they would why they would make this move. If they feel like it's an upgrade at the sports wasn't -portant position. So. Right now, where we stand I will say seventy five percent chance that calamari. We'll be topic. Let's go back to the Redskins for me. Because I said we're gonna start with the Redskins. And then I got sidetracked based on some of the things that you said, but right now, they stay at fifteen, and they don't trade make a trade with any of their other picks to try to acquire Rosen right now, and you can read and subscribe to the athlete, by the way, we're deigned burglar has you know, his mock drafts out there. But can you tell us right now on your latest mock who you have the Redskins taking it fifteen? And what would decommit gas wide receiver bowl miss who is just such a physical freak? He's unrefined Maria's route runner, you know, he was only asked to do so much illness offense. But you know, when you run a four three and you're six four hundred thirty pounds. You just you have these physical gifts that can there's so much potential there, and it's really hard to find a an apple apples comp for guy geeky Metcalf because he is so freaky. He's almost like like a beefed up. Ted Ginn, you know, because he has that vertical speed where you can take the top off defense, but he'll have the size. He you know, he he has stars where he can box out and use that link to take, you know, give the quarterback, you know, huge passing window that DB's can't really affect. So with decommit company. It gives you a lot of option. I think you know, right now. He's going to go somewhere in that fifteen to twenty five range is my guest. And I, you know, I think the Redskins that when they're looking at, you know, helping the wide receiver position, I think pass rusher is something that I looked at there's well that they're gonna be right there in the mix and the mid first round for Brian burns Cleveland feral those could be options as well. But in my latest mock, I went with the wide receiver on McCaffrey moment. 'cause you use the word unrefined. I think that's what you said Chris Cooley who was my partner in radio for few years and comes on the podcast usually once a week. And does a lot of his own sort of film breakdown in preparation for the draft. He's he essentially referred to Metcalf in the same way said that he they're just more natural wide receivers out there, including AJ Brown his teammate and ole miss in their better hands catchers than decay Metcalf. And they're just guys that look more like natural wide receivers than Metcalf. Does a physical. You know with with measurable 's kind of kind of guy that just, you know, did incredibly well at the combine you see that in him. Is there is he the first receiver on your board? Would he be be the first one taken at fifteen or would marquees Brown? Go before him where someone else it on my board. He's the first one my my top one hundred board. I actually have a e k met gaffe marquees Brown AJ Brown, very close together. Deka f twenty seven overall Markey's Brown's twenty eight and AJ Brown. I believe that thirty one. So I not a huge fan of taking a receiver in this class in the top twenty five, you know, I think there's excellent value waiting to second round around finding some talented receiver position, but you know, with decay. I think that, you know, everything, you know, we said is correct. Because it's you just tape, and it's just a high volume of vertical routes, you know, go rows curls comeback. Those types of things didn't really, you know, there wasn't any complexity what he's doing out there. And it's gonna take some time for him to learn that, you know, needs to just fine tunes and things and they're also the factor in the medical three years at old miss two of them ended prematurely ending injury. Most recently the neck injury. So, you know, that's something that the doctors the sign off on as well in that kind of brings us the market Brown who had a listing surgery in January. He's supposed to be full go before training camp and over the summer, but again hundred six pounds long term, durability the question, you know, I it's where do you feel comfortable taking a player like that explosive ability that he brings us off the charts. And he's basically Sean Jackson type of type of performer with that vertical. Speed is tracking skills start. Stop quickness is really really a weapon that you can use all over the football field. But the size the durability something at the. Actor in and AJ Brown. I think that I think you're right. But he's one of the more natural guys, and he was basically receiver at all miss. That's how he was used but very natural routes very natural hand, see some juice Shuster in what he does. So I think there's plenty to like about him and not let it profile for again at six foot and a half to it or in twenty six pounds. So really well built kid, and he ran a four four, you know, his three cone with seven flat so solid time for a guy that size AJ Brown. He's worth for from pick in my opinion into Strath. But again, I none of these receivers our top twenty five picks my mind, but it it'll be instance, he really come off aboard. I think I think Washington fifteen might be the most realistic spot for the first receiver to come off the board one more in the wide receivers. 'cause I wanna go back to the pass rushers that you mentioned here a moment. But on the wide receivers, you mentioned marquees Brown is. Sean Jackson, look like, and I said about Brown and Campbell that both of them Paris Campbell. Also, just remind me of Sean Jackson, you know, the Redskins had to Sean Jackson here for few years, and they have missed him dearly him NPR or sewn quite frankly since they left. I don't I don't know what Garson had left after he after he went to San Francisco, but Paris Campbell to me out of all of these guys at least based on all of your mocks, yours and everyone else's. He's the guy that could be available for them in the second round. You agree. I think it was good. She goes in the first round it just, you know, I think twenty two Baltimore they possibility. I know they like him. They're trying to look at their wide receiver position. And how they can help them are Jackson. He's comes in. I can't remember forty three over all of my board. You know, he's the guy who was that H back in a reminder offense at Percy Harbin type of role a lot of jet. Sweep a lot of screens bubbles thing underneath pattern. So the question was downfield can track and football can you run vertical routes? We know we have the speed. But what he did the combine and not just the forty yard dash. But this drills the way, he did run downhill routes and track and football and catch the football that really impressed evaluators. And so I think Paris Campbell more. So I mean, the four three one was obviously outstanding especially for a kid that six foot two hundred five pounds well built, but what he did in the position specific drills. That's really what I. I think caught the eye evaluators why he's being talked about as a top forty picks on the pass rushers. You mentioned burns you mentioned feral. The Redskins Dane have not had an edge speed rusher in forever. Ryan Kerrigan's power rusher. Preston Smith, you know, sort of the same thing they haven't had a fear inducing edge pass rusher in so long, and it's been something. That's really hurt them over the years. I'm wondering of the guys that could potentially be there. Fifteen who's the best speed rusher that could be there at fifteen. I know burns certainly got edge speed and explosiveness who else in this draft are among your top guys are speed rushers versus power rushers and I'm talking about true outside linebacker, three four von Miller types. I mean, not von Miller, but somebody here approximating the kind of player is with that, you know, explosive SP. Lead. I really come down to Brian burns. I really does. I think Nick Bosa Josh Allen sweat on good chance. Those three guys are gone somewhere to talk while picks. And then you're looking at okay, we're Sean Gary go from Michigan. He's not exactly that that speed rusher. But you know, we have a lot of traits that are appealing clean Farrell from Clemson. We haven't seen him. He hasn't run a forty this. This pre Predrag processed got turf toe. You just you know, he's not that quick twitch guy. That's not who he is it come down to Brian Byrne. I mean that that that's his forte athleticism. He can stand up in space. He can move around. He has that instant bursts dip around the corner. There's a lot about what he brings to the table. Especially the fact that he came into the combine the two hundred and fifty pounds. That was a big question. What was you know, he played around two twenty to thirty during the season got up to fifty. And it's testing numbers did not. He did not sacrifice that lettuces them. Get up that weight to fifty now can you hold that way to fifty and still perform at a high level. That's something we don't necessarily know at this point. But I I think there's plenty to like about him as an athlete. He was productive over ten sacks this past as junior for Florida state team that really had a poor season. Not a lot of town on defense. But Brian burns of the leader for that that squad so has one of the biggest wingspan entire draft. Right. Eighty three and a half inches. So there's a lot like Brian Byrne. If they Brian burn it off the boards. They he goes, you know, one pick or two picks before the Redskins pick clean feral. You know, I could go in that direction. You know, he's ironically, he reminds me a lot of precedent person that I think that's kind of who he is. He's not necessarily the the quick twitch rusher. But he's well-built he understand how to use his hand. He doesn't nice job. Breaking down the rhythm of blockers with the you know, more than just. Athletic tools. The understand the Pachauri plan inter stands what he's doing up there. So, you know, I think there's plenty to like there. But again, if they want that more that quick twitch guy, then maybe they're waiting to the second round. And you're getting you're gonna go after maybe chase winner bitch. You know, a guy in the third round max Crosby. But if it's if they wanna speed rusher in the first round, it's probably Brian burns a bust. You know, I've been looking in reading all of these mocks, and you know, who the hell knows obviously. But I I'm hopeful that there's still an outside shot that sweat could fall fifteen. I don't see it happening to me. He's the most I actually think he's as explosive and maybe even a bit more explosive than even Josh Allen is I don't know where you have those pass rushers ranked at the top of the draft, but sweat would be an unbelievable gap. If he felt a fifteen for the skins. Oh, there's no question. I he's number seven overall my board. I think he's a legitimate. There's so much to like about what he brings to the table from size speed length standpoint, you know, he had some demons in past, you know, he didn't laugh at Michigan state because of a lot of weed issues, you know, just didn't get along with the coaches all the time. And so that was the kind of divorce that needed to happen. You talked to people at Mississippi State and talk very highly of of who he is. And so I think there's there's plenty to like about month, sweat, and maturity and kind of player he's grown into the heart issue is something that will be looked at differently by different teams, the heart condition that was flagged Columbine. I talked to team that told me that that it's not going to affect them that the doctors consider it a low risk dishing. So you know, that something that could maybe drop them a few spots as possible. But I I would be very surprised not only t top ten twelve caliber player, but he plays the most important position on your boss. Stor besides quarterback. So those guys those premium players go. Hi, I it would be a long shot him bailable fifteen. Do you have Alan rated ahead of him or not? I do. I I have both one on my bore Josh Allens three and then month has sweat seven. But those would be the talk three pass rush. I wanna talk about safeties for moment 'cause the Redskins have in need there. I loved watching the missing part of why love sweat is. I thought Mississippi State had the best defense in the country. And the most entertaining to watch all season long is Abram agai that. He'll be there at fifteen. It seems way too early for for a safety in that spot, but gimme or safeties. And and how high they go. I think they're at least four or five of them that are potential Redskins picks in the second round. Yeah. Abram he's he he leaves a little bit to be desired in coverage. And what are you gonna right there? But he plays so much energy lies around the football field. You know, there's a lot of like about just the presence that he bring watching him on tape was very fun. You know, just fun football player to watch. He genuinely enjoys the energy that he plays with, you know, working with everybody. There's so much about Abram. But again, he's not the one that you're gonna trust as the lack line of defense in pats coverage making plays football. That's just not really his game. But again, that's why he's viewed as more of a early second round or not a lot for from picks. So a lot like about the neighbor if he's there in the second round, I think that'd be terrific pickup. Second round really sweet spot. These safeties Chauncey Gardiner Johnson from Florida the best nickel in this class. He played straw. He played free. He played nickel. They call it. The star position Florida. So we've got a little bit of everything the aggressiveness plays with the ball skills toughness. Really like that Taylor rap from Washington at four seven nine. It was a four seven eight official forty at his pro day that's gonna knock down a little bit and their teams in the mid second round kind of pumping their fists, and they thought four seven thinking that okay wrap might be attained player for us now in the mid second round one Thornhill from Virginia's in that. Nick, the on Thompson from Alabama. So that second round is really sweet spot for these safety. I got a chance to see Darnell savage junior. Play a lot here with Maryland. And I'm not surprised that he's flown up the boards after workouts at cetera. He was he was a playmaker at Maryland. And one of the few that they had a defensively where does he fall for you? Where where does he go is? He is he a third round is is he a second day guy. Or not definitely a second guy. I have. Him. I late too early three. There's so much like about him as as a defensive back. Whether he's gonna play corn or you can play safety by nickel can do little bit of everything I think the size, whereas you a little bit under five eleven under two hundred pounds. But speed that he plays with watching him on the Jairo state watching him on tape against Texas. He he showed up and quickness to the to the ball. You know, sometimes you little late thing it, but he more than makes up for it. Because he's so quick to that speed hit closes so fast on the football. He'll make plays so d'arno savage might not be a top fifty pick. But he's gonna come off the board right after that between somewhere between fifty and seventy I would get is. We're Darnell savaging to hear his name called. All right. A couple more what you're running. I appreciate the time. Would it be too early at fifteen overall if the Redskins selected Hawkins? The tight end for my w-we, not at all. I mean, I think Hogson at the top ten player in this route. He's one of the cleaner prospect, you only get a high floor. It just comes down to do value. The tight end enough. Or will you in Willie make that impact on your team? Are you going to use him? So you can justify using that have pick on him. And I think as long as you can justify that. You can't go wrong. Taking Hawkins fifteen. He's if you had their those the, you know, a can't miss player in the draft. There's there's no such thing. But if I had a bet on any one of these players in this draft, he near the top of the list because the blocker as a pass catcher. He's high care guy. I were coaches just rave about him. There's heated very clean player. I it's hard to see TJ Hopkinson busting and wait for a lot of reasons. So I if they're fifteen I I know it's might not be the sexiest pick and there's questions about. Okay. Do we value? Enough to take him there. But I think you're just getting out standing football player on the corners. Who do you who do you have ranked as your top corner? And is there any chance that players there at fifteen? Yeah. I think there's a good chance that we don't see a corner off the board in the first nineteen picks. I there's a good chance that we don't see the first corner drafted until twenty the Steelers the corner from me Byron Murphy from Washington, but he doesn't have ideal size at he's under five eleven and he ran a four five five at the combine so short, and you don't have ideal speed. I think he makes up for it because instincts toughness that the competitive nature that just everything else that he has. But because he doesn't have the height because he doesn't have the length. He doesn't have ideal speed that's going to knock in on a lot of draft boards. But there are teams in the team in the twenties. It really going to get a good football player this corner. Class is really interesting, greedy Williams, his wards from LSU, I really like rockets sin from temple wouldn't shock me. Appease the first corner drafted so somewhere in the back half around one. You know, we're in corners come off the board and. It's anybody guests the order. They come off aboard who's the longest armed corner in the draft of the top guys. The top guide. I believe it is. I mean, rocky standing thirty two inch arms Justin lane from Michigan state. I think he he had thirty three in terms. So he's a former wide receiver. They moved a corner. Still getting things worked out connecting the dots. There's some spacing issues there. But because he's six and a half because you know, he's a really good athlete with thirty three and charm. I think he's right there not fifty mix. Someone's get take the upside pick with him. Lastly, sorry one more question. Just give me your quarterbacks in order. And you know, that's it. It's this way with every drafted seems like the quarterback conversation. This one's really interesting because I'm hearing Cooley came on here a month and a half two months ago. And he said the guy that will drop significantly before the draft starts this was he he sat there for six hours and watch Tapie said Haskins is gonna drop he's not going to be the second quarterback taken. It'll be lock where. What do you have right now? And gimme just sort of the the the projected coming off the board order. Yeah. It really is. I think Dwayne happens to me he's my quarterback. And because I believe in the arm. I worry about the lower body. I worry about his ability to find those second chance throws to maneuver through. You know, confined pocket those are legitimate questions. And in the NFL, you know, there's really no such thing as a clean pocket, and you have to be able to navigate through the mess, all the noise. And I think with has gins you don't him get better Caesar went on. But you're talking about a small sample size. And I think his issues are more experienced based not talent base. So I'm I'm trusting the Armitt Haskins. Not just the velocity. But the accuracy, I think that the average. So I'm going to bet on that. But I think that you know, who right? I mean have wouldn't be surprised at all. If he's third quarterback drafted or the fourth quarter backdraft. Did opinions all over the map on him small sample size. Definitely part of that. But you know, there are a lot of drew lock van a lot of Jones fan and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And that's so true with these quarterbacks in so it's really the wild card of the first round of where these quarterbacks are gonna land. And it's going to be a lot of fun on Thursday night. I in the draft to see where they do end up day. This was great. I really appreciate it really appreciated. Follow Dane on Twitter at DP Brugere VR, you G L E R, he writes for the athletic subscribe to that and get his mock drafts and his draft analysis. Really? Appreciate the time. Anytime enjoyed it. All right. Thanks to Dane burglar will continue to do a lot of draft guests here between now and next Thursday. Quick word about the podcast. If you haven't rated it haven't reviewed it on I tunes if you'll do that. That would be really helpful. Also, subscribe really helps us doesn't cost you a thing and mentioned people that the Kevin Sheehan show podcast is also at the Kevin Sheehan show dot com, which is an easy way to listen. It really doesn't matter. How you listen as long as you listen that rich helps us if you listen for a portion of it every day and most of you listen for a significant percentage of it every day, which is nice. So we appreciate that. But again review and rated that really helps us on I tunes or anywhere else. You've got the opportunity to review it and rate it all right before we get to the game of thrones episode one season eight recap our conversation about it. Let's do a little bit more sports with. Weekend. DVR is you have a busy weekend. Don't worry. We've got you covered. It's a weekend. All right start with the caps who got the overtime win on Saturday to take it to nothing lead. I think the biggest shock in all of hockey, though, is the fact that Tampa Bay is now down three nothing to Columbus. This is the nature of this sport. You know, whenever we've had these conversations in the past. And people say, you know, you talk about the the results in the postseason being random way too much. It's not that random. Well. It's the only sport the only one in terms of long form with best sevens. Baseball, NBA and hockey anything can happen in a one and done. But it's the only sport were eights regularly beat once like it happens. Every few years is Detroit going to Detroit have any chance gets Milwaukee or do the clippers have any chance against Golden State zero. And you know, who had a better regular season than Golden State and Milwaukee Tampa Bay in the NHL they're down three nothing to Columbus. But back to the caps. And that overtime win on Saturday. You know, that was I think what we've seen in these first two games in. And you can correct me if I'm wrong, I think we've seen to fairly even teams, you know, the hurricanes got behind the gotten behind now in both of these games early on in game one three to nothing at the end of the first period. It was two nothing at one point yesterday. And they've come back and in the case of game one. They had multiple opportunities to tied up and force overtime in game one. They did it yesterday and the caps got a Brooks or pick goal in overtime to win. He's been since asional in these first two games for the caps game three tonight and Carolina. Yeah. I definitely agree. It doubly been even visible arming things for the capsules as good as they've played on especially the two way hockey thing that the power play has not been good. It was bettering game. One sport on their first two. Opportunities in game one. They also had a couple ones where they had no shopping and yesterday, they had the the five minute major where they didn't look good at all on that one. So it's been a little hit or miss throughout. But you know, overall not much to complain about. Yeah. I to to even games caps in game. One at one point really didn't. They carry the action for that one stretch in the first period and that turned out to be enough. What a pass by coups nets, by the way, the game winter which overtime and Backstrom already off to just an incredible start to this post-season three goals now for Backstrom. And he was he had an assist on the Wilson goal that gave him the lead in the third period on Saturday, so caps and canes canes, playing their first home playoff game in ten years. That's going to be crazy tonight. It will be but the caps now. Looking ahead. I mean, they've got the islanders who are total command their series. Against the pens three nothing in that series of right after their win yesterday in Pittsburgh. So right now looks like berry trots, and then who knows in in the Eastern Conference finals. I mean, the path seems to be opening up for another Stanley Cup run for the capitals they gotta win a road game. I mean, they get split here. Come home and win it for one. Seems like you know, what may happen here? I don't know Carolina's been feisty and these first two and these series change quickly. Like, I I'm saying that it's over in the Tampa Bay series. But it's really not Nakae. It's really not Tampa could still win for and a it's happened. Well, when's the last time that happened? It have. I mean the last year to last in the first round. No, they weren't down three three three three nothing. I thought you were four in a row in general. I mean was the most was the most recent three nothing whole the Red Sox over the Yankees or not or was there one in hockey more recently. I. Probably have to look that up. But other things from from over the weekend. You know, I I watched the NATs, you know, load up the bases with one out and not be able to not you know, the the game tying run home against Pittsburgh. They lose that series two of the three against the pirates at home. And there was one other thing. I was going to mention sportswise before we get to game of thrones. Wade. Oh, yeah. We'll wait. My god. Will wait. It was just snuck in there. We'll way the LSU coach reinstated. Yeah. I don't know when they put really. Earlier in the day. What it turned out? It was ten minutes before the game of thrones premier was it, really. That's when they put it. Yes. That was definitely planned yet. Because will Wade who basically paid players, or at least we thought he paid players being reinstated. LSU thought he was definitely going to lose his job at LSU, but has been reinstated as the LSU basketball coach. So there you go on that. Oh, the other thing it was the NBA playoffs from the weekend. That was the other thing. I nearly forgot to mention that. I have a feeling a lot of you watching a lot of the NBA. But I know some of you do like like, I do I'll be honest with you. I was watching so much of the masters both days that I missed a lot of the NBA games. I did watch Golden State and the clippers man was that a feisty affair a whole lot of jawing back and forth. I mean any game that includes Patrick Beverley is always going to have some level of comp of high level. You know over the top. Competition, but he really tried to get up into Durant. He'd tried to bother Durant all night long. They both got tossed late men Durant fell falls for the bait so easily, and I think sometimes tries to be missed mister tough guy. He's not Mr. tough guy, and he doesn't need to play Mr. tough guy got tossed from that game two technicals. And I think it six if you go beyond six she gets to spend it a game in the playoffs. I also saw some of the magic raptors ending you had on Saturday three of the lower seeded teams win three of the road teams one on Saturday yesterday. You saw typical playoff score. I mean when was the last time in the regular season you saw eighty four seventy four, but that's what the Celtics beat the Pacers by. I thought the thunder were on the wrong side of so many calls in the Portland game. Which is really the only game. I watched kind of start to finish of the playoffs and the bottom line in that game is is is the thunder shot five thirty three. From behind the arc and Paul George was awful in that game. He was also hurt going into that game Portland wins for the first time in you know, they'd been swept in their last two playoff series. So they went to play guy game for the first time in a while. Anyway, you had the four games on Saturday the four on Monday. And now we get to that stretch of the schedule where you barely get any games. You get you get series that could have been over in a week and a half that lasts two plus weeks or certainly right around two weeks. Two games tonight. All right. Let's get to the game of thrones. Which you've been waiting for all show as have I and go ahead and play the spoiler alert that you put together for it. There. It is. That is our game of thrones. Spoiler alert. So if you haven't watched it, now's the time to go back and listen to another part of the podcast, or maybe Fridays podcast or Thursday spot cast, you can do that too. We're gonna do this at the end of the show, and we're giving you fair warning to check out. Now, if you haven't watched I can't imagine that people haven't watched it that had to be among the highest rated television shows of all time last night. I would think certainly for cable have any ratings inter from information. I haven't seen it yet. But between streaming and that it has to be ridiculously high. All right. So here's what I wanna do. I wanna go through this in some subli- of with some semblance of structure because there were so there so much we could just throwing out and stuff, and I wanna keep it to ten to twelve minutes here, and I'm gonna start with a high level question to you. I liked it. And I mentioned that at the beginning of the podcast a lot of people that I know did not like the first episode of the final season. What did you think I liked it overall? I understand the people who are disappointed by it knowing that there are only six episodes in this season. I didn't think that they could have done the typical for CEPA, which is what they did. They did they kind of table setting episode where stuff happens. But really just all right. We're putting the pieces in place, and this is where the pieces are going forward. I think you wanted or people wanted something a little bit bigger happening knowing that now, there's only five episodes left and a lot has to happen in those five episodes. I liked it. Because at every turn. There was something else there that we had waited two years for now they did get a lot into it. The only thing I think we were waiting for that we didn't get last night. And maybe it was too soon to get all this. And if that's the criticism of the first episode have at it because you'd be accurate. I'm just not overly critical of it. I didn't really care where I got it. And it. Didn't feel rushed to me. There were couple of scenes that seemed a little bit awkward, and maybe it's because they were rushed. But the only thing we didn't get in that first step Assode e in. We got it at the very end. But how it plays out will be told in episode number two is Jamie's return is Jamie's arrival in the north. I mean, we get him and prince staring each other down that's could Shah. And it's such an it's such an interesting show in that that is like, you know, a first so much of what this last season is about ties back to the very first episode of the series and season one. You know, it really is amazing think about and the second thing I wanted to get to where all of the reunions last night in all of the reunions, many of those reunion stem from the last time they saw each other were episode one season one John aria as an example. But. The Jamie and brand staring each other down at the end of the episode ties back to Jamie trying to kill brand in episode one season one and by the way ace significantly pivotal moment in the series almost every pivotal moment came in Kosovo one off episode one. And then of course, you know, a significant moment was the last episode of season one in that was Joffrey deciding to behead Ned stark, but pushing brand off that you know, that cliff and him surviving snorted everything. Yes. When you think about it started everything? So that came at the end, that's the only thing we didn't get resolved last night. And when I say resolved in terms of, you know, things we were expecting to see in the first few episodes, which leads me into sort of the second topic, which is the reunions. This is going to be a matter of personal feeling. I. Thought one of the most emotional moments of this series was when Sansa in John reunited it was. So, you know, it's that sibling thing big brother younger sister. And there was no reunification reunion. I'm sorry. More intimidated than John and aria sing each other. They had not seen each other since the first episode of this series and season one, which is stablishment this relationship that they had which was aria just in love with her bigger brother, not in in love in the same way that much of the other parts of the series of the sibling, they were so close, and he she was chief the baby. And and they they didn't last night was the first time they had seen each other since the first, and that was the part that I thought was a bit unrealistic in that she watches him and denarius come in. And he doesn't see her. And they've got the big meeting. With Sansa, and John and denarius with all of the leaders in that room in which you know, little finger was, you know, sliced apart, and, you know, lady more Mont had stood up. We know king of the north the whole thing it we've been in that room multiple times now and the last seasons more model so got some great lines to again. But that that room aria wasn't there either it took until halfway through the episode to get John and aria. And then it was even a bit awkward in the way, they sort of interacted, but it was a motion. I thought it was definitely emotional. And it was definitely awkward, and I think part of it was kinda show that both of these people had grown so much. She had the line those like know you look shorter now because I've I've grown so much. And then his response they talk about needle is like have you ever had to use? That thing they've become such. She says she says once or twice, right? Yeah. They've become such different people that you know, it was meant to foreshadow that they have their relationship. Can't be exactly the same. But because of that also was a little bit awkward. It was. But it was also when they you saw aria like sausages run to John and jump into his arms, and that is you know, that big brother younger sister, you know, and what the two sisters have been through through seven years. I mean is just this is why I think so many people love the show. I is that and I've tried to explain this to two of my good friends, Tom and Scott who mocked me for watching this show that in this is for others that don't watch it, you you may not be indefens- shows these kinds of shows, but it's so much less on the fantasy and so much more about the characters. That's what makes the show great. It's the characters in their journeys in their relationships and their desire for power in their quest for power and all the things that happen. It's not about really dragons. And. White walkers. They're important of story. Don't get me wrong. But it's it's these relationships that you've you know, you've been waiting and watching in. I don't know they're the reunion of John aria was emotional. Although awkward, I will grant you that the reunion of Aryan Gendron Ari and the hound were also interesting. I love that seeing the one I've been my favorite with the hound or with gender Jit just that whole scene with the two of them there and going from the one where it's you know, of the grudging respect for each other. Yeah. And then to over to gender where it's, you know, have almost the sexual tension between the two of them. Well, the the discussion between the hound aria was I mean that relationship was so odd because he was a protector to aria at the same time. He was hopeful that hurt he was gonna bring him a lot of gold. Right. You know, at the end, she she was you know, she was an asset for him. But their relationship through those those seasons or that one. Season was was interesting, then there was salmon, and John you know in their their reunion. That was an how about sunset and remember, you know, in terms of number of episodes. It's only been a few episodes since John left to go south right and ended up bending the knee to Canarias, but his return was also also important for sunset again. And of course, John's return brings areas interior Dow winter, I love that say what the Tyrian and Sansa seen. Yes. Yes. Yes. That was a great scene which also produced I think one of the more revealing things about what may be to come in. That is aria tells John that Saez, the smartest person that she's ever known. And remember this comes in total episode counts of three or four from when we thought are you might wanna kill saadah. Right. All right. And John knows that Sonya smart because she saved. The day in the battle the bastards by bringing little finger in the Vale. So you know, that she has figured these things out here over the last, you know, eight episodes know, year and a half of episodes of she's now grown into, you know, an adult woman with power, and it's now becoming apparent that? She was incredibly smart to survive. She had these incredible intuitive survival skills. Remember in the first couple of seasons. She hated the Lancasters, but played it the right way to survive, which took brains. You know, even Tyrian had recognized that she was, you know, fairly clever, but the the the scene in which aria says that and then she says deterioration, you really think, sir. Sees coming north with her troops. You used to think at one point you were the most clever person. I knew. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That was the lynum paraphrasing something like that. She knows she's the only one apparently that knows Jamie's going to tell everybody, of course in the next episode. But she's the only one that's figured it out. So of the reunions that was the next category of things I liked. I however awkward however, late improbable because I think one of the first things John would have been looking for when he returned is where is REI here. But he didn't he waited until she found him, which seemed improbable, but anyway, that was an emotional moment. Yeah. I mean, it was all just really really good. And then like you said it's really the backbone of what the show is built on the character relationships. But again like as good as it was it also kind of the table setting. They're all of those little conversations set the table for what I think we're gonna get big time next up sewed, which is how do the past relationships now apply in this new world. Basically clearly there is tension between Sansa and everybody in the north and in area wrecked and into threatening everybody that she's brought with her not just everybody John and Sam as well. And John with Sam for sure now that Sam knows well is basically everybody versus narrates at this point. Yeah. And sir c sitting back there now having having relationship relations with with your on great joy, which is just he such a repulsive figure in this thing. And by the way, that just as a side note, I was happy. Happy theon got back. We expected that to happen to and it wasn't a significant part of the story line, but to come back in free Jahra, but then yard essay go join essentially your family in winter fell. Right. That's louis. Yeah. But in thinking about that, obviously at this point well sant-, so we'll know what theon did. John still still does not believe that theon spin helpful in any way. Right. I think that's right anyway, that'll be interesting. When the-an gets back. I wish the United States with his sister and figured out. How to just, you know, be a force in the iron island. Yeah. Or somehow convinced the entire iron island fleet to come as I think yours very underrated figure in the series. I I've always she's a bad ass. She's a bass. But she's been such a shallow character that I have no real feelings about her art significant events, by the way, the best line of the episode is when Sanga and is talking about, you know, enough food for new armies and the threat he and the dragons, and she says what dragons even eat and denarius says whatever they want. What they I was kind of partial to sir c I wanted elephants. Oh, yeah. Wanted elephants. I wanted elephants. Like that was and by the way, I mean that was that was a shallow and very much of a stretch. How he goes from you know, she goes from saying when the war has been one you'll have me to him essentially talking talking his way into into her and her bed of that though was showing I think you're showing her mindset that she has no allies. She has she has nobody nobody other than in the mountain who are hybrid in the mount Khyber on the mountain is it, exactly. So even if it's something that she really doesn't wanna do. She's just like, okay. I kinda got, you know, keep allies around got people close to me, by the way. It's the second time now into episodes, the last two episodes of the mountainous step toward somebody and then step back you, sir. She decided that Jamie would live and that and that you're on wood wood wood banger that night. And apparently it went pretty well for. Him or at least thinks it did sheet. One point says, you're the most arrogant man I've ever met, and I like it. Anyway, the significant events last night, the most significant event other than John writing dragon, which everybody says should have been some sort of foreshadowing of he's you know, he should know himself that he's tar guarantee Dr Aaron 'cause he's writing dragging that never occurred to me. Here's here's the one thing about that. As a book reader in addition to the TV Scher there have been non-target Syrian dragon right in the world. I didn't know that. Yes. But Sam tells John Sam tells John that he's ATar Garin. And that you know, he John seems I mean he surprised by it. And what's interesting about John all along is that he's been reluctant, maybe maybe because of the bastard upbringing, and the fact that he was always relegated to you know, sort of. Second tier? But he almost seems like unwilling at this point to say, yeah, I'm the rightful heir to the throne. This isn't in what we should what this should be setting up for. But I'm not sure will is for him to ask scenarious Debendra need him. And that's what we're going to get to. Had the conversation about how they've slept with each other as and nephew for her. That shouldn't be like that's not. She's goes shrug it off. You say, you know, that's what the areas do. Yeah. But this was the one I wasn't thrilled with I thought it was I felt it was rushed SO. I I thought it was strange on him. Yeah. I thought that the way they did it. It was interesting that Sam was more wielding as a weapon against the narrative as opposed to. Hey, this is who you are. It's well, right. But he's found he'd he's not very happy with xactly, and they set it up specifically that way I thought that was interesting that they chose to go in that direction that it wasn't. You know, them trying to push up John as much Sam SAM's is this is how you bring the nearest down as you tell Sam this heritage and how he should be the throat and that brings the nearest down. That was interesting, and it was done for a reason that I haven't quite. Figured out yet. I I didn't spend a lot of time trying to think as many of you perhaps did where this is going from here. You know, it could be I mean, you know, the the odds on favourite chew to sit on the iron throne was brand. Right. I John were kinda brand John denarius like they were the top three favorites. Followed by Sansa, and maybe even Sam aria I was up there a little bit. But I think most people think that aria if if if a stark sits on the throne unless Sansa dies, right, which certainly could happen, but the. I don't I don't have a prediction about where it's going based on last night. I think right now, I mean, you you have the white walkers bearing down the night king bearing down that wall. You know, got busted down by the, you know, the the dead dragon at the end of season seven, and so they are how is that were going to be fought. We'll Jamie join the group will they will there be a short term relationship to beat down the whites and then somehow figured out afterwards. Like part of me to be honest with you would love to see the threat from the north eliminated as part of the show and then moved back to the seven kingdoms. And that seems to be where we know the flights happening episode three we know that we do by title. Yes. Oh, I didn't know they think you did tell me they they've already announced that it's the law. It's going to be the longest battle scene in TV or movie history. Well, the white. The white walkers the night kings, not winning that battle. I mean, can we it would be shocked if they if they knew then what happens then they go sell the fact that it's the fact that it is episode three gleed some possibility to they have to retreat back to the south. They don't kill everybody. But the prominent players after retreat to the south, and then battle that's possible to I guess that's possible. It's the least of the possibilities that they wipe out. Everybody in the which would include then the Starks that the denarius Jamie, everybody else's their theon would be back there at that point. And that somehow it's now, sir c and the great joys and and against against the the white Walker as someone pointed out, you know, they done so many shades of grey going into the first few seasons. There's not one clear protagonist. Now, everyone who's remotely sympathetic is on one side. And you have zombies and demons on one side. And you have crazy queens and pirates and all that, you know, all the evil people on the other two sides. Basically, there's one very clear. Good side. Right now there is anyway, I enjoyed it. I I guess I understand some of the criticism. But I didn't sit there at the end of it and feel like some did that we were two years of waiting wasn't worth it. I thought it was very much worth it. And I can't wait for next week is next week in our to. Yeah. It's the first three or an hour or two are an hour. And then eighty and then we get full length movie. Not not in the final eighty minutes for the time for getting quite neck next is going to be awesome. Because it's all it's all about Jamie. It's gonna be all about Jamie in two. I did you catch. I caught like the very first I try not to watch the next week on. But I call it like the first scene or whatever Jamie admits to pushing brand how is. I mean remember for a long period of time. They thought it was tearing. Well, I I mean cat thought it was Tyrian to begin with. I think the big thing more than that one is going to be. Jamie killed the nurses father. Yeah. Like, that's that's going to be the big king slayer, my guess based on how they've kind of built this as denarius now, very hotheaded. You can't trust her especially with the Sam thing, right? Is that she's going to want to execute Jamie on the spot, and she's going to have to be talked down? Jamie's become over the years. One of my favorite characters. I think everybody feels the same way. I was reprehensible for the first, you know, year to year, I really enjoyed cocky, pretty boy Jamie, though. Well, I also I think that they're still we're we're brand went south remember sunset brand self. So there should be a return of brand to at some point. Yeah, we're is brand right now. Well, remember Sonya sent Brion south right before they killed little finger at the end of season seven, right? So because I don't remember that seem brand says I need to be here to protect with John not being here. And so to see Brian in Jamie reunite interesting because you know, I think at the end of season seven, sir c believes that Jamie's leaving for two reasons. He's leaving to basically uphold his the word that he gave. But he's also leaving to go. Find Brienne maybe to a certain degree was wasn't. She supposed to be with the nearest Jonah them because she was part of the the dragon Pitt. Yes, had sent her. That's right. There for that. But then the promises made the deal was made John's gonna live up to that deal in part because he made that deal with Brian to she was there for that. Yes. God that was such. They played that final episode season seven. I did do I have not seen that final episode in a while. God that was good. Yeah. That was so good. I don't know where it goes from here, you know, gates unpredictable but last night, I it was satisfying for me and can't wait for next week to see how the whole thing with j. I would think somebody dies next week somebody probably dies next week. It could be Jamie. You're right. It could be going to Jamie, Jamie has too much and you set up too much with the with Braun having to being paid to kill them are that you have to he won't eventually come. I don't think but you have to give them that choice. And all the while here come the army of the dead. They're they're plotting their way southward with a dragon, and a whole lot of people that they like wall art, they like it. All right. That's it. What else? Do we have from today that was it? I mean, I had significant moments reunions and just our overall thought on the show. I definitely would give it on a scale of one to ten I'd give it a premier solid solid eight was satisfying. But again, just with only five at the soaps left to do or we did forget one other key seen, and that was Braun Khyber n-, basically bribing Iran with you know, to kill Jamie and Tyrian. Yeah. That's why I say J interior and have to live to give him that. Yeah. Possibility. Even though I don't think Ron's not gonna kill. He's not go either. One of what you have to have that scene where he has the opportunity to decide not to all, right? There you go. That's it. Game of thrones discussion season eight episode one was more than ten minutes. Probably more like fifteen or twenty. I think it was about twenty five there. Whatever. It's a podcast. We don't have hard breaks in this business. And those of the breaks we're gonna talk about what we wanna talk about. Hopefully enjoyed it. Hopefully, you watched it. We'll do the same thing next week to hold it off until the end of the show. Thanks to Dane Brugge ler. Who is on the show today? Also, Mark Schley by thanks to Erin. Enjoy the day.

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After the final Ryder Cup

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After the final Ryder Cup

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I talked about it in the few minutes that we did last show before kind of leading into the Greg Norman interview, how he has every right in the world to be sort of above us to walk around in his own world to be largely impervious to everything that's going on around him. He was not like that at all, aside from everything about him and he's awesome. He's worth three hundred million dollars. Yeah, that number doesn't make any. He doesn't have to come into this godforsaken hellhole of an office that we haven't come talk to us for a full hour for no reason for no reason for no good reason. He just came anything specifically. He's just like, I never knew line a word to us about promoting a new line of shark gear coming out. He's just in town and he wanted to come hang out with us, where do we sit and what are we want to talk about was pretty, it'd be more in the mix. Like even when I went to go to the pizza view with him, he's like, when are we doing this again? And I even asked his publicist like, why is Greg doing this? Like I said, that's why, because I have that same question whenever we do something with these guys, right? Like sometimes we'll go to the, these guys will have to travel and sit in these cars, and sometimes they'll municipal like pizza views like in queens and chips. Like these guys are worth like hundreds of millions of dollars, right? Why and what are they doing with? He says like, he just can't stop like he didn't. He couldn't stop. When he played in his career is what he told us. Like if a guy had five hundred practicing seat hit seven hundred, like he just can't stop twilight. Paul McCartney's still comes out with new. Music and towards just what they do. It's just like they can't live, Greg Norman can't live without just talking about golf around work and work ethic and just owning life. Can you imagine owning lifelike that now he's in inspiration, just put together a nightstand in my room. Yeah. Do move to New York before I knew move to New York. Wow. It's morning, eight minutes, six minutes. What was your commute was like an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Door to door had like my dad dropped me off. We were rushing. We were making. Sometimes we'd see the train coming and I'd make him just like shout to my dad who would always dried, make him just drive on the other side of the road. I mean, talk about like waking up at seven o'clock in the morning drive on your side of the road. Where do you like. At the at the station that we go faster, you're driving. Station, we get to write. There's a spot where the tr- the things come down for the train tracks. So all the cars stop and we need to make a left before the train check. So I would always have him. There's always be a backup, and I'd have him get on the other side of the road and just speed before a car comes our way, and we'd make that let than we'd like catch the train. But that was an intense couple of a lot of stress every morning. My dad's like sweat and tech someone on the training like, thanks for that. I don't know why they put me through this. So yes, a lot easier, but took to my point. I put together a nightstand when when you open up this box, you see a million fucking nuts and bolts. I couldn't believe what I had to do, but I felt so accomplished after I'd worked so hard and I built it, it's kinda like like you just you just feel good when you're working all the time. Right. Just totally him back from work. And then I worked at night and I did that nightstand Greg Norman's just working. It must feel great to just like work and be successful. Yeah, leave New York. It'd be like, man, we dominated new to all these different places. We gave all some interviews. People love us. We're talking about Greg Norman's like the most likeable dude I've ever watched on video. He is awesome if you have not listened to that interview for some godforsaken reason goalless into the Greg Norman interview. We also so it's it's off season right now for golf, it's the low season. We're cutting back to one show week. We're going to obviously work to get guests. We're gonna fill those shows with as much awesome stuff as we can. If you remember last winter, we had Gill hands on who talked all kinds of awesome course architecture. We had Steve rabbi do who's the course superintendent and wing foot, Steve Ravindu. Awesome. It sounds like a boomerang. So we did all kinds of cool stuff. We are talking still with with the shark and with his folks about doing more of an in-depth like Greg Norman unchained episode where we may be throwback a couple of cocktails beforehand, then turn on the cameras. Turn on the audio, turn on the record button and just let it fly. So there's been talk about doing something. Like that with his people. So it's going to be an awesome offseason, but we're cutting back to one show weeks. We're gonna cram a lot in there. We have maybe the longest outline I've ever written with stuff to talk about all the Ryder Cup. We had to shelve a bunch of it because the shark, we didn't want to obviously clutter last Thursday's show. We want that one to be clean. It also works better that way for the archives. Like when somebody goes back to, you know, listen to the Greg Norman interview. I don't want there to be thirty minutes of random Bs on there. I want them to be able to just get the Greg Norman stuff. So we shelved a bunch of stuff. A bunch of Ryder Cup gossip a bunch of drama, a bunch of back and forth. So we've got to get to that. Okay. This weekend. I play chenecocs. Jay did not. Gil I have is crazy, but yeah, kinda came out of nowhere. I started posting about people like what is was happening right now couldn't believe it. I usually I'll like send you a message. I'll like reply to Instagram, like, wow, I didn't even wanna do that for this one. He knows rigs knows and he didn't even like you knew that everyone knew where you were playing because you didn't tag it, you didn't? Right. That's what I found very interesting is they're going to see the clubhouse and be like, oh, that's where he is in both any edge. Put the picture up. It's like the first pictures, just like whatever hole it was like their whole like Darius. That's like, that's just what I have to say. So Shinnecock you know, the first time that I was ever there was when we did the mulligan challenge with Dave, and I had been all jacked up for weeks leading up to this because we had two spots in the US open media day. Thanks to our close personal friend USGA. We had two spots in there. It was all set up as a Monday. We're gonna play Shikoku to be able to talk about it three weeks before the US open. I'd never even seen the place that never been there. Couldn't wait and we got there and like the day before I was the US j. caught wind of the Morgan thing, Dave hijacked the whole day, which to be honest, we ended up being like the best thing that's ever happened to four. Blake got credential, US loved us. We use the US j. relationship and showcased how well it went to get credential to the PJ and the Ryder Cup, so it couldn't have gone better. But in that moment on that Monday, when I realized like a whole end of the thing to holes into thing, I'm trying to hit an approach shot from like one forty. I look up and the flag sticks out. There's one hundred golf balls on the green five cameramen Dave's Aaj running around the house. Like I just can't. Fuck. I cannot play the golf course. I just can't play golf course here I am at should've Cox. Bosa play cock can't play shuttlecock. So a couple of people that were up there that we became really good friends with were like, look, I know this sucks for you when it gets you back out in the fall in the course dies down while bomb. So I cashed it on that ticket. Shinnecock is seeing it without all the tents. Bullshit. It was a different place was spectacular. It is. Is the best golf course I've ever played. It's not that's different than my favorite. My favorite is still Cabot cliffs, but it is the best golf course I've ever played from an architectural standpoint from simplicity, doesn't rely on these crutches or like views or anything. I love us and all that stuff, but it doesn't rely on any of that stuff. It's just built so perfectly like that. Dark like dark Brown Shinnecock fescue only look that it has that only Shinnecock looks like that just makes it stand out in all of that with the club houses. Just constantly in the background like the clubhouses like the north star and it just that every point on the golf course, you can see it. All of that how open it is an expansive older runoffs around the green like people gotta. Remember there's like no rough, really around the greens, like your ball just catches on slope like you put it like three feet past the pin. You're going to have a three footer coming up the hill. You've got like forty feet and you have a chip over a bunker apologised caught a fucking slow, so so. So playing it experiencing it in in its pure form was one of the coolest experiences of mine tire life that plays. Now I can see why Greg Norman the shark said on Thursday show that I was like, what's what's your favorite golf course in the world? There's three of them in Shinnecock was one of those three s crazy completely make sense now play not good, not good. So what tease did you play for? So a lot of people chirp me about this on my Instagram that shirt me for playing the red tease, look dumber people. The red teas are the tips they're. Oh, so there's the, there's the, there's the open teas, and then the one t's closer to that, which of the club tips are the red teeth. So we played sixty nine forty as what it was. Nice fairness, pretty deep, hush. I eighty five. Oh, and it was I had dude. It was the weirdest round of golf. I had like thirteen just tap in bogies is like every hole tapping in for bogey at one double on the. Eleven th hole. I hit it. That's the one the the part three ever be. That's their big lines. Open, shortest par par-five in America. They always say it, and I made five. Hit in that front. Bunker hit a great bunker shot out of there to like twenty feet above the whole front, right pin of it off the green into the rough. So that's the one that was by our radio with the with just a fucking crazy. That's where Phil. Yup. That's just like Razi town Il just like disrespected the rules on that whole? No, that was on that was on fourteen now that was thirteen. Okay. But that was on the other side of where you're talking shooting it up? Yup, you hit it up hill. It's like one fifty, five. I had an eight iron that came up like a foot short to this. Like we're all look like that looks really good, and it was the kind of bounds Irwin. Oh, in about straight backwards in one of those huge bunkers again, hit a great bunker shot had like twenty feet down the hill for pars all jacked up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk and beat this whole. Let's go piloted into the rough legit off the green got up and down for their for double. So I had one double. I had probably fourteen bogies a double in like three or four parts that were. That's not that bad of a day from the, you know the club tips it. Honestly, I shot my titles 'cause I drove the ball great. I just was struggling to like hit just to hit greens. And when you're missed greens air, it's like, yeah, what can you do? Yeah, barely putting off course. So I I would have on a tunnel holes. I had like twenty five feet for bar as lagging up, their closed tap in bogey, wrapped in for bogey million times. So anyways, Shinnecock fantastic. Read tease you guys are idiots. Sherpa me dumped. You. Look. You must feel like idiots. I have my own hole in Scotland. I saw what is this? Yeah, some guy emailed me and he's like, you have a whole with your name on it. It's Largs golf course on the west coast of Scotland. It's a the thirteenth hole three hundred eighty two yard par four and it's named Riggs. The guy had a series of the boys flag to offer the odds at like the guy's playing that whole a huge bar. So fan knows enough to like be go rigs and like combined with you. And then he happens to have just are merch, I'll storm. So one. Another guy was tweeting at me and was like, dude, I live like twenty minutes away from that course. I've played it one hundred dollars. I never knew it said rig. Yeah. So anyways, got my own hole if you ever played Largs l. a. r. g. s. but you're going to get a lot more pictures now because a lot of people probably just went right by new idea because who reads like the whole us, look if there's like a picture maybe and then you just buzz right bought, you'd never see it. Actually, when he sent me the picture, even see it. I looked at a picture like thirty seconds the boys. That's good, right? But he's like, it's named after you like, I don't. That means that eventually I saw rigs right in the middle of the picture. So that was cool. Like lar Largs is the town Largs. Really? Yeah, rot. Largs is Bri the golf course to true because you're not uncommon like have a town golf course in the town to Carson named after the town, like Bethpage Black thirty goats in Bethpage new right kerryon kerryon Largs golf club. You act like you're like, you're like telling me I was wrong. 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I think the reports were out of DJ and Brooks, but like not all of them, they're like, maybe there was a toss Abbas kind of it. And then I, I was at the airport in France, still, excuse me. You guys were here that were that was legit over a week ago that that will happen threat. We haven't spoken about any of it sense. I don't even know where it really begin with this star, the gym furic interview. I watched this whole thing today. Jim furic did a big sit down with Tim Rosa fort of golf channel. First of all channels website in terms of the video is one of the hardest things navigate in the history of the internet. They have one of those weird video players, right? That's I hate those things. I really do to navigate psycho proprietary video player thing, and it just, you know, it's one of those where like the ad read plays like three times before I can see a video and then and then when you finally get to it, it's like a two minute and eight seconds lip and you're like, okay, so it was just give you the raw footage on on YouTube or something right? Or let me watch like one little add the beginning, and then I should be good after that. Let me coast after that. Now it was a war of trying to get it and they had to kept scrolling through their player thing in it was like if they had like ten different two minute clips. So I spent, I probably spent half my day to day watching golf channel ads. Keeping their lights on for, oh, man, it was a battle. I started tweeting them out and then a couple of their writers dmt me the link to the full thing. So I tweeted that one out so people should be able to find it. Jim furic, full interview. It was done in a way like there was just a tragedy struck, and it's now been a week since the tragedy and they're, you know, kind of breaking down second up the pieces. Yeah, that's kind of how it came off your. It's like it was almost weird in that sense. My main takeaway from this thing is, Jim furic does not have a brain like he. I like Jim Feerick. I've always been Jim Feerick fan. He doesn't have a brain like they're asking them. One of the questions he asked him about the team and all that, and his quote was I'd still take those twelve guys into the fire any day on any golf course. So I can understand that answer because he doesn't want to ruffle any feathers, but that's not true. That's not the real answer. He's either being disingenuous or he doesn't have a brand. He's being disingenuous. He has to. Because one of his other answers they asked him. What was your biggest concern going? And he said the golf course, and then it was spoken about leading up to it about the golf course. Brandel Chamblee on this very show talked about the golf course with people. Don't understand how tight and narrow it is. If you cannot miss fairways you're fucked. If you do then during the whole tournament, we couldn't hit fairways and we sucked. We weren't even close and then afterwards everyone's like, well, he picked Phil Mickelson Phil Mickelson literally in the two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen PGA tour season. There were one hundred ninety. Three players who stats. They Cup for driving accuracy. Phil was one hundred ninety. Second out of one hundred. Ninety three. Do we know who number one hundred ninety three with Ricky Barnes plow Rikki Rikki Barnes, Phil Mickelson and then everyone. Everyone else. It's not a good combo. So you're telling me you're telling me watched all that Jim Feerick the whole thing. And then your takeaway was like, I've just run it again. If we ran that same event again with the same twelve guys against their twelve guys, we would lose a hundred times. I would like look. At the twelve guys. If I was fear, can I gotta do over? And I would take the opposite of all of those twelve guys because they just the ones that he picked the hundred ninety two hundred one ninety. Three is a perfect example of a guy. You should not pick if you're that concerned about the golf course completely like those two things. Jim furic just do not make sense. So his interview was just pissing me off sitting over there my desk fuming as like, what is he talking about that he watch what happened? I watch what happened. We're missing fairways left and right. And then one of your four cabins picks was a guy who's the one the the second worst player hitting fairways in the world basically. And this is the guy that you chose out of your forecast. It's tiger you had to pick Bryson d Shambo you had to pick. He had just won two in a row and Tony fee now played great during so fine. You could say those three fine. You had to take those three. Phil Mickelson people were questioning beforehand being like he doesn't have a great a Cup record. He's been playing like dog shit ever since he won in Mexico earlier in the year, and he's old. He's forty eight and he doesn't hit the ball straight. Not only does not head straight. He's the. Second most crooked guy of the PG twice. Statistically like the worst driver. The only guy worse is Ricky fucking Barnes. That's who's one Ricky bars is now part of this conversation to talk about RIC what back Ricky Barnes gets brought up in any sort of capacity like that. We're that we're comparing Ricky Barnes to anyone and the fact that it's Phil Mickelson and the fact that it's the Ryder Cup. That's not a good. Some of the things tells you about Jim furic is that he just has no balls like he saw the evidence. Jiffy oracle, he saw the evidence of what the course is going to be what Phil Mickelson was, and he made the pig because we were like, oh, tiger and Phil played on the Ryder Cup. That's cool, correct. One hundred percents where you can't do and his whole answer when Roosevelt pushed him about Phil and people. Second guessing he ever Gretz or anything like that, and it's all answer in justifying. The Phil pick was he was like, people have to understand that Phil brings so much to the team and the team room, and he went on and told this anecdote about how Saturday afternoon when Phil had to sit how he was out there ruin the guys on. Phil can do that as an assistant captain enough. Fucking Gulf card in like a winter hat and those gloves on that he's wearing. It doesn't need to be playing in like, what are you talking about? Jim Feerick. So I was losing my mind. I was fuming watching this thing like, I don't mind that we lost an admitting that your strategy and your captain's picks or whatever were flawed and that there's ways to change it. Would I mind is him sitting there being like, yeah, no, we totally knew the golf course right concern. We picked the wrong guys, but we would definitely run it back, you know, get killed if we read it, but those are two too many different things to be like I had the strategy going into it, and that's how I was gonna pick my picks. And then I'm like, Phil Mickelson off the board. That's crazy, and it was the buddy buddy stuff so that that part of the interview drove me crazy. Now the other parts, and there's a ton that kinda get into it with him about all of the different drama. Brooks CAPCO Dustin Johnson. So kept came out at the Dunhill links, which is one of maybe the MO, the single most. I think I saw shame bake tweeting us and he's right. The single most underrated golf tournament in the world is the Dunhill links where they play the old course kings Barnes and Carnoustie, and then they do the final round at the old course at Saint Andrews on Sunday. It's hard for us because we're obviously in the US it's football season in the key in the fight and all that this weekend. So it's like, what am I going to get up at six AM on Saturday and Sunday and watch golf. No, I didn't. I was hung over. I slept in, but I watched. The highlights is very cool. But anyways, Brooks CAPCO was at the the Dunhill links like a day after all these rumors are going out that him DJ basically came to fistfights over Paulina Gretzky, which is how golf digest painted it. Yeah, they, they really, they snuck down one in there. I wasn't willing to go there when I blocked about the Brooks and dozen thing, but they golfed. I just were like, Paulina was at the center of it and I couldn't decide, and this is the reason why they did it if they. Meant she was physically in the middle of it, like trying to break it up or she was the reason they were fighting credit. It's still unclear credit to them having the balls to just be I, we're gonna get listened a threesome clicks. Basically, we are in the click and I'm mad that I didn't think about it. Yeah, genius move by them because they didn't. I don't think they overstepped in a way that like that party the the party of DJ in Brooks could be mad at them, right? But they did get those clicks and they did make you you. When you looked at the headline, you were like it literally said, like DJ Paulina Brooks Kapka separated at parties. I was like, wait, are they were like dozen Johnson getting the fight and Paulina Gretzky at the center of it. Like what I mean? We cover golf for a living, and I knew all the details that were in that piece and I still click on it like five times what happened in here, what is going on. So and they did a great job of that Brooks cab cook came out and just adamantly denied everything is there was no confrontation. I don't know what we're talking about is actually text with DJ today, like were best buddies all. That stuff, then Jim Feerick reaction to it was because I guess the their other reports came out that the two of them got into it a little bit on the plane over there and that then they got into this. This almost came to blows in the European locker room on Sunday night after the tournament concluded. So all these reports are going on. I think it's pretty simple that these guys are indeed like best buddies. I think they were boozing it up and prod got into it over something really stupid. And then Jim furic said that the two of them even gotten a cab afterwards, like went out that was his quote, went out together. People don't seem to think that like best friends or very close friends can fight like I would actually argue that that happens more often between good friends than someone at a bar like that just happened if you're uncomfortable, if you're not gonna, like confront evaluating, make fucked back. I'm never talking like what a loser, that guy like that guy. He's not my friend, my friend. Are you a fucking getting face in idiot, you're not going to back out right? And you get these to meet has neither one of them's going to back down from each other chance. Next thing, you know, they're almost fighting and killing each other in the team room. There was a part of me that in the article that I originally came out, it said that this happened in the European locker room. I thought maybe some European snake may or may not be Poulter like got in reporters. Ear was like, I saw Dustin and Cup ca fighting just so mean a little bit more. You know, a little bit more trouble in the United States, locker room. I wouldn't hate that because this is after the Patrick read and Jordan speech stuff. So maybe they were like that might as well throw some gasoline on the fire or did that credit to him. Smart MU. Yeah. I'm just saying that's conspiracy theory endorse law walking away from the like the gas station like the and the the flames. Just go behind you. That's just like a movie scene. That's what Paul Poulter walkaway and his visor. Like laughing. Yeah, his spiked hair. I agree though. I think something definitely probably happened, but it's what I think it wasn't a big deal. Right? Like they were. They were painting it as something happened as basically a culmination. And a representation of the entire United States team, and it was hard not to fall into that because like you said, we had the read speed stuff going on. Justin read that fucking lunatic was like firing person, fire and missiles off on Twitter, talking to the New York Times. It was crazy, see that video that went viral of the girlfriend that keyed the guy's car. Yes. Yup. And she just like maniacally laughs and she's like, I don't care anymore. I don't care. I don't care runs after him. That's exactly the guy. Just the guy heals your, you're kidnapping, you're kidnapping me. That's just the. That's what she does. The Patrick. She, she blocks him in. He can't get out of the car and she just tells them what he's gonna do today. Yes, I think that's correct. I have formulated a the the same theory, but even to in more extreme degree that I actually don't think. I think Patrick Reid is incredibly more normal than anybody gives them credit for. I just think that she operates his entire life and his movements and is the puppet master and their Westworld has his laptop yacht open. And she just tells him exactly what kind of emotions he can have and what exactly. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to because I look at a guy like Patrick read, and I think he should. He's just like a normal dopey guy like he, I don't think he's very controversial and he shouldn't be, but he's got, you know, just seen behind the scenes kinda pull in the strip. Yeah, and he, you know, he's kind of a victim too of like the way that he looks. He's got kind of Dushi look to him. You know what I mean? Just like that. Look, he's cocky. So who else has that? Do she looked that we just can't explain. Yeah, I know what you can say show by disagree. Will you kind of just went into like a little spider trap there and you can't trap me your Mr.. You trap your cell phone? I always do kinda just like, explain why we always say, we hate Bryson. You're like, you could get you say you hate Bryson. You have to have a reason and he's always cool and he's different. And I just said like, he just looks like a douchebag and you're like, well, it doesn't really make sense. But if look, if yet was your big thing where you were like, I'm going to hang my whole thing on the fact that he just don't like it certainly start. That's fine. But I've argued this with you before that your, hey. And you've tried to get out of it being like, no, I don't just hate Bryson. There are legitimate reasons to, and I've been like, no other now you just ate price and, but what goes into the whole science thing. And I think it's part of his brand and he knows it, but I'm just saying it all started at the route with like, has his hat. We're not going to have to do the whole thing, but I just wanted to let you know that you were creeping on the edge of may be coming over to our side. All I'm saying is that there are people out there that do not like Patrick green largely because of just the way that he looks. He just comes off with like a Dushi. Look, we have the whole top five comment. All of that just made him seem significantly more Dushi I think than he actually is. And then when you have the whole, Justin is actually the Westworld person programming him on how to interact with people and all that. It has fed to a very poor narrative. I have it on very good record from someone that I trust very, very, very well. Well, okay. Who spent six out of seven days with Patrick read during US open week, which I must note. I must note that Patrick reads wife got sick that week and was not around. Interesting, and I have it on very good record that week of the US open that a couple of different sources went in and they were like, look, we went in with this whole the same exact stereotypes and rumors, and everybody else had. We were like, this guy is going to be a douche there. He was the nicest guy in the world is said he was incredibly kind. He was polite. He was an open book talking about a lot of them at scandals and stuff that have like been written about over the last several years said that at the driving range, he was the only player on Sunday when us preparing for the final round member. He was like in contention on Sunday at the US Open that he well, maybe Saturday, you shoot himself out Saturday. He's playing pretty well. These open and on Sunday on the driving range. He was the only guy who win couple of guys that were working in the range walked by him. He took his headphones out and was like, hey, guys. I want to say you guys have done a phenomenal job this week. Thank you so much for the help and all of that. So I heard from multiple different folks. They had great things to say about Patrick read. I don't think it's. Coincidental that what's her name was not around. And so that kind of lends itself to my whole theory. And I think that Frankie was saying it too. It's like she's just got the Westworld thing going on. There's not much he can do about it. That's just what is world is nice. Everyone kind of knows. I mean, I don't know, maybe not, but I have like a family friend like, and I feel like this is in every family group or friends group where like a wife or even a husband, it can go either way. But in my in my case, it's like a wife of a family just like controls every year. And it's. Super. Like just like gets in fights with the the rest of the family. And we'll like not talk to like sisters and brothers and like make the family not show up. And then you see the husband and he may be or the wife in any situation. But in my case and the husband, he looks like he's just like, you know, going along with it, but then like you, you see them at parties and stuff, and and there he's like the nicest guy in the world and you say like, God bless this man for dealing with this right? Like he's, he's like, they'll in scenario like this family would just like walk out of a party and like you'd see him just like pick up everything just fall. Following back. Sorry, we're gonna leave coming back from the curse. He's big. You have like all of the president. That's exactly. Yeah, everything all the leftover food, the bedrock, and he's thank you for having us. He's got nine hands worth of stuff in two hands and he's carrying out of their kids are getting thrown out of the house. Like she's like, just pulling everyone the credit. We don't need this situation. I listen, it's it's, I don't know. This is just what happens every year. So, and I've seen it at, it's been, it can be. The husband can be the crazy while s wife could be the crazy one, what you're right. Everybody's seen that situation with a couple, whatever. This just feels issues feels like one of those way too. He's getting dragged whichever way you want to say they drank. He's getting dragged too much in getting connected to much like his spouse. Like this is Patrick Reid. He's the golfer, he's the guy who has the mic in front of him. He's the guy who has the golf club in his hand. Why are we? Why is he letting this happen? I don't know, but it's gone way too far. It's also it's tough because he did win the masters this year. So it's like, and then she wore like that ski off it. Yeah. Maybe he needs like a crazy. You got the win, so right. So maybe I don't know, but it is. It is tough. I was because I was I was at the bar Saturday night, talked with a couple of buddies about this, relaying this information and the buddies were like God damn it. I really didn't like they're really thought we were over the hill now that we could hate Patrick read. But again, I gotta go off what a year. It does sound like, you know the type of situation we're describing. So we'll see what happens. However, we're here for you. Patrick airs. You need any Patrick and we'd love to have you on the show on my guard up. I'm no, I agree with you. We're not like all in, but just I'm trying to present the information. That's that's fair. That's very Fairview. Fi withheld that information. I don't think that would be fair to Patrick read enough. So I did not withhold the information. I did notice that he I went through somebody pointed out that he one of the tweets that he liked on Twitter. He's only liked in the last like three weeks. He'd liked like one tweet and it was a tweet that said, Sergio had the worst form of anyone played four matches in one three. He lives for Ryder cut reach should have played all five match. Scrolling through Twitter's like this fat Dom. That's the one that won that guy. Nailed it. So we had, obviously the Patrick read or just sent him that like right now. Yeah, I just. Definitely has access to his Twitter. Thirteen. Twitter, you're definitely right. I don't think that she basically runs his Twitter account, then you're crazy. Smash you guys his dream, but one hundred percents downstairs like shooting pool and I came upstairs and it's just like, hey, like, why am I getting so many tweets about this? Like like that, then she's just like sitting there, live cross my mind. I would not be shocked. Patrick Reed doesn't even know. He has a Twitter, she's just on there and he has no idea. So it was it her that tweeted the thing about the tickets, the Red Sox game, you think she definitely motivated it. Oh, are you kidding me? Of course, I bet she tweeted the whole. He's he's not even a person at this point. We don't have anything strike you as a guy who like, I don't like, I don't care where we said. That's how he strikes me. But now with all this stuff, she definitely was like, I can't believe these seats. I can't believe the way they're. I mean his last tweet. Well, no, there's one that's very I. It's just looking forward to a great week the courses in great shape tour championship. But then the last one is that tweet like she, she has that just front and center. Thank you to the PGA tour for tickets and the Red Sox game tonight. I love how you put my wife. So that's the first line. I love how you put my way. Was myself in the lie in the line drive section, we paid six hundred fifty dollars end up in the same section as the rest of the tour hashtag front row and like she's the one taking the picture selfie. That's her tweet. Patrick Reid, if you if you look at the tweet, I mean he has no idea. He's happy as can be. She's like, hey, babe. Let's take a self, takes the self guys. A great time of the SOX. Ballparks my buddies on the tour is wearing the Ryder Cup. Garrett drinks it so much more whole plan. There is so much more TS like Patrick, we got it free patchy ventriloquist Dolon she's just talking for him and tweet, man. We gotta find a way to free that man, poor guy, Jesus Christ as bad as we think it is. It'll it'll end ugly, she a hundred or so he doesn't even know about the PGA tour ticket thing. He doesn't even know that existed. So he's getting probably getting asked these questions. He's like, I don't know because talking about great. What is it tweet? I don't know what any of this stuff is. Four, Patrick, we really. I mean, if you listen to early episodes of this podcast, we probably do not treat Patrick read all that. Well, have you listened now? It is. We finally figured out what's going on, but we feel bad for him it again. It's not like he's the single most likable guy in the world, but I don't know that he's as bad as he's being painted to be in. These got the, I don't wanna take this too far, but we were all shocked when he went to the New York Times after the Ryder Cup instead of bringing something up. I would imagine just maybe like, let's talk to this New York Times reporters. See that's going on. Definitely. I mean, she runs the show. He just does what he's like. Let me just play golf at place, all the win. I want to be top five. I wanna to win made. That's it. Like I wanna play with tiger tiger's my body. I wanted to play with them in like who wouldn't wanna play tiger in the in the Ryder Cup, which were Jim furic said because he was asked about the whole splitting up j. are splitting up, speak and read, and he said, look, that was that decision was made weeks ago. Those guys knew that they were going off. He said it was to the point where he had messages with Patrick read from like weeks beforehand about like which time slot. Tiger and Patrick. We're going to go off of go off in terms of times like they all knew they're playing together. I again, it's almost like Patrick reads, probably like one of the boys and all that. And then meanwhile, like as all this is going on, he's got just just sewer again behind the scenes. He's like what the hell is going on here. So so Feerick did say that he said that he made some interesting comments. He said, basically that if tiger didn't make the team, then Patrick Reed and Jordan speeds would have stayed together. However, since tiger made the team, it made way more sense if he split up speed and read that instead of having one really good team, he would have to really good teams is kind of the way that he described the whole thing. It is hard to knock that whole decision because JT dominated, right, right. Fifty percent and tiger just wasn't the same guy. He was literally five days before that. And Patrick Reed was not the guy that he's been in the Ryder Cup or that he was at the masters, not even close. So I think. I think Feerick did get a little bit just unlucky on that one. And you know it is hard after the guys struggle to just abandon them on day two and be like, we're going to totally blow up the whole teams. Now, in hindsight, that would have worked way better than whatever the hell they ended up doing. So those were his comments on that. Again, you can check out the full interview on golf channel. You've still got Ryder Cup, fever and whatnot, but it's it's interesting. It couldn't have possibly gone worse, really. And it's funny because Jim fury communities, he's talking about it afterwards and it's like this guy spent. This is spent literally two years basically like preparing for the Ryder Cup, getting his team ready. The captain's picks gets so scrutinized, the pairings, what are you going to do all this stuff, the fallout and all that. It could not have gone worse. No more like responding. Like he's incompetent of doing anything like me. I'm said he hadn't didn't have a brain. I'm he might not have a bright like I was sitting over there fuming at my desk. Someone put him through coaching school and he just can't handle it. Right. Like he was like the type of reaction and the answers to give. Everything's very just. Yeah, like I would go out, put these guys in the fire any day of the week. Any golf course. Like dude, we need some transparency here. We need you to be able to be a little bit more genuine when the entire country got embarrassed. And you know over, you're not going to be the captain again, like burn every bridge. If you were burning bridges, just be like we fucking sucked in like, this is what we could have done better, like you were saying in the beginning, like it's just insane to just do this PR one. Oh, one bullshit and say, yeah, I'd take the same guys and this is all our team. We're gonna go hand in hand insane. It's, I mean he told a story that Phil was out hitting balls on Friday morning when he didn't get put out there and he didn't get out of there very morning because he'd been playing so poorly and that he was like, I had heard. Rumors from good sources that were with Phil, that they saw some stuff that they liked from fill. So we decided to go with them in the alternate shot in the afternoon, which is a format where if one guy struggling at all, you're fucked. It's alternate shot and they were down seven down through nine holes. Yup, seven down. He put him with a rookie Bryson and the two of them stunk and boom, they're seven down. So it's like, how can you defend that type of decision? How do you defend this Catholics? Pick of a guy that you played in one out of the four. Times when you can sit the guy and the only reason you put them in is because like somebody told you out of the driver, just tell them hit a good shot or something like that, and then you put them any seven down. So to whole thing is driving me. Crazy, Ryder cups driving me crazy. I love it though. I love all the drama afterwards. It's great. It's awesome. It's so good. I wish you know what they need to do like try your big Batra guy. Yeah, they do like after the final rose, they need to do that for the rider. They give it one week off and then sit everybody down in a room that. I mean, that's the best idea you've ever had thank you. They should sit the whole team down in one room and they just and then they bring like two of like, right. They bring like Patrick, read and speak up together or something and sit them down and Chris Harrison, ask him questions. Yes, interesting. Comes in and destroy, Chris. We're going to bring on a surprise guest, just steam. With like the stone cold, Steve Austin? Yes. Good. They definitely have to do that with all the drinks and everybody the shot would be. They're showing the bottom of the limousine and all their feet or coming out. Right. And it's clearly all men, right? Like it's all their pants suits and their shoes. And then at the end, it's just one like woman's foot and it's a red, he'll and it's like that's coming next. I just know who's coming man. You gotta Paulina come out. You can do it all. Could you imagine Chris Harrison pulling up the tweets from Justin, like be like? So you said during the singles matches us like the music and to Packer out, and they've got the always the live studio audience in their reactions. It'd be real that should be that's going forward. That should be an obligation. If you agree to play in the Ryder Cup team, you sign this whole thing. And then part of it is a one week afterwards. So like the Sunday night out towards primetime TV on golf channel NBC or whatever. You sit all twelve guys down from the losing team only and they just Chris Harrison gets biggest per like the biggest one there would be tie a tie would just be there who knows what would have. All right. Tiger you played like shit all week and Chris Harrison's just grill. And how frustrating were you win? Patrick read shot eighty-seven on Saturday morning and just here, and then Chris hairs hands. The microphone. You got to do that. So anyways, Ryder cups over. We don't get another one for two years, which is just devastating. We have to live with this the Europeans how much better they are than we are. All of that stuff is just purely brutal. Phil Mickelson, fuck Phil Mickelson with a t seventeen of the Safeway this year or this week. He was tied for the lead to routes you talion farm really well, hosted seven under on Thursday, like couple of days after he literally couldn't keep the golf ball in France, and then he shoots seven under at the Safeway ends up, finishing t, Sabatini faded over the weekend, but that just made me that just was infuriating. He went out of his way to talk about the golf course. He said, the fact is they had brutal rough. This is him talking about the Ryder Cup almost unplayable and it's not the way I play. I don't play like that here. The Safeway can miss the fairways. I can get shots out of the rough up on the green and it's playable and I'm forty. I'm not going to play tournaments with rough like that. That meaning the Ryder Cup course anymore. It's. A waste of my time. I'm going to play courses that are playable then I could play aggressive attack. You making a lot of birdies style golf. I like to black. Okay. I guess we're not seeing you Bethpage Jim furic had all that information every bit Iraq. Nothing changed, correct. Nothing changed and he was still like, that's my mean, I don't play like that. It's the golf course. What are you talking about? I don't play like that is what's so infuriating like you tell me Jim Feerick your quote is I would take these twelve guys into the fire again to disguise saying there's going to be in the fire, the fire, what's to be in the fucking water, nice water against fire, water, and in the water, then he shook Monae sand. It was over. He's the literally lives in the law. Hey, we kind of. The cuff. So frustrates the the writing was on the wall. Dude. The guy was not supposed to be, you know, I would love. I don't. I want Jim Feerick to read that Phil Mickelson quote, and then I want to see what Jim Feerick says. Yeah, this'll be the Chris Harrison. We Chris Harrison read through them one hundred percent, yeah. Would you still take those twelve guys into the felt says, I don't play like that, and I only played tournaments where I don't have to play courses like that. So it's incredibly frustrating. The whole thing is driving me crazy this. It's just a whistling straights next whistling cool. And they're going to people are people worship dumb. People were tweeting us like it's only going to be worse. It whistling straights. I've seen the PJ's there and stuff like that. Do they just cut all the rough down day of? Have you ever heard of a lawnmower? You morons the cut the whole thing down on US soil. We're going to figure this shit out, right the base the whole course. You're going to be fair way. Basically. They're going gonna cut the whole thing down. So it's basically just fairway and hopefully we should be good to go to be up on Lake Michigan. It's going to be beautiful all the stuff. We've got two years out still. So we'll see. We're at that point to see Phil play the PGA Bethpage where he says he. Doesn't like the play thick rough anymore. So I think it's rough ever you little. He's not gonna be by the, he's not. He doesn't play like that anymore. He might not even show, oh, he said that three days after the Ryder Cup after whatever whole thing's driving me crazy. I'm so out on Phil right now. It's I was at stunning how quickly we're all out on Phil and it's I mean, rightfully so you kind of think that this Tiger Woods Phil matchups going to be kind of like whatever he and shit, and now it's the hype is way down way down. Nothing has lost its hype quicker than this thing lost the Tigers are fire enough real corny tweets. Yeah, that's coming. How did this happen? We also jacked up a lot jacked up after the tiger win. Then he played like shit. We need like Chevy honest Tiger Woods yet. I know we like to, you know, say every great thing about him. He played horrible. We were. We owned up to that when we talked about the terrible. But you know, he, he, he's holding his end of the bargain with like getting the hype up. He's playing well, he won a goddamn tournament. You know if. Phil was in the mix and fill like finished, you know, t- stike to when tiger Juan fill like the Ryder cups. One thing like the Ryder Cup, they sucked at, but like Phil was just playing good golf right now and tiger and they were both just like lowering into that matchup. That would be great and tiger is roaring into that match up. I don't take the writer capacity room and it's it's like a weird way to vent Tigers played terrible at the Ryder Cup when he was just the most dominating golfer of all time. Like it doesn't take it is from fills blowing Bill is blowing this match of like funny funny tweets can get him everything. You just said this whole quote, and he just had just makes me think that Phil doesn't want to play golf anymore, and we're going to just wash them play for ten million dollars. It is funny. It's like none of the the US open stuff didn't bother me. I still love to fill some of the weird stuff after we got another penalty for the for like brushing the grass downs club, none of that bothered me. This him play like shoot at the Ryder Cup and then like ads and like, oh yeah, of course I played like show like I don't play those kinds of golf courses like you were picked to play that golf course over a bunch of other. Phenomenal players like Kevin Kisner, Zander Shaath lead all these guys who were like younger Studly player. You like John Bryant. Gay has a seventy percent accuracy on the draw off the tee. I'd think I'd rather have him. I mean, there's one hundred ninety one other random and driving a golf ball, CT pan way, higher way air. He's in thirteen who who was Brennan Chamblee's pick Kyle Stanley house. That's who he wanted Br. I mean, we love Brandel, but he, we always talk about how much we love him. He could not have been more correct. Shoddy Brando who we, we love brand-new. He's one of our bodies that guy lives for I told you so moments. This was this whole last week has been the biggest. I told you. So in the history, he's talking about the course amount how Americans we're gonna play well in it nailed that. And he was like if they had picked Kyle Stanley, they would have been. I mean, they would have been vied luck in Brandel sitting up there on the set with his hair like flowing in the wind and his suits just with the biggest like I told you so smirk on his face. I definitely like chocolate. Oh yeah. 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Safeway open, solid trophy though this is a big old barrel Donkey Kong barrel who won the Safeway last year. Fuck trying to remember who it was last year because I remember I blog. I don't think the only thing I blog about the subway Oba was like. Have you seen the trophy of the Safeway open? Just a barrel. Loves us an awesome barrel. So I do like that one. One thing of note branch net occur was in the mix him and Ryan more loss in a playoff, Brendan Steele. He want it so looks like, yeah, yeah. Okay. I think I blog that picture off to find that pictures great Bishop barrels of bigger than he was branch net occur finished he to. He kinda should have won the whole thing kind of blew rattled, but he's big Peter Malar guy always in the mix that Brenston ticker is he wasn't. He was my cookie, cutter guy. Yeah, he is just always. We call them like a big old babe. I called him milk and cottage cheese. Did you? Yeah. Jeez, that's not like a disc that's just like I when I think of brands, Medicare, I think of cottage cheese. All right. Okay. That's fair. Just like, you know, not all that much flavor. Yeah, just kind of, I think. I think of the babies on the like the moist, wipes boxes. Interesting. Yeah, let's let's add insult. You just have that because he cried at Augusta times. Yeah, just everything about his face every time he makes a pot at Augusta. He cries. Yeah, it's just like a scrunchy baby face with a lot of hair, like on the five year olds and have a nice luscious hair. He's like the Johnson and Johnson shampoo commercials, where the goes in there, don't let it get in there is that's him. That's him. Has brand soccer. Well, regardless, he's a peachable, our guy so it looks good. Bye doesn't looks great. He looked so good out there. I was Keyser gears amazing the best. So that was the Safeway opened. Again, it's fall off where I mean, we're so not into this type of golf that were not even doing two shows a week. That's just worse, whatever the stuffs again, you can't hit me with all the tournaments that you've been hit me with and then give me all Jack McGregor. Guinness face Beata in and he got you got all kinds of football's back hockey back all that stuff like we are obsessed with golf. We go nuts for golf, all wind rather. Senator how Foale you'd rather play than watch. I got my pupil all gear on. I got my titles clubs in my hands right now and like a lot of these tournaments, all these big events like on Saturdays and Sundays we have to be were inside watching glued to the television because Tigers in the mix or the Ryder Cup choices are coming down. Captain's picks coming out whatever. Now the let Lucille golf. So Safeway open. Sorry, buddy. CCA later were more playing outside that he did. Yeah, care more in sync. Shout to the barrow as in sync as you guys tearing my heart. 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It's a nightstand. I haven't gotten around to the entertainment center. Just brought it in yesterday. Hasn't hasn't happened yet. I haven't even taken the entertainment center. I haven't tackled that problem. Have TV on the floor I now and the first thing I did. I I shouldn't you guys not. We got our wifi out. We got an internet running hooking up by the way. I I, I've ever gone cable this. I'm like, I'm doing this new streaming service is the whole thing's just on new world for me right now, you are going your quarter cutter, mcchord cutter, so they call it. It works. No, I dig that court. Cut channel. Twenty-one popular. You need like cease. No, I get the theory, but I've always thought that was just in the future. I know where you're there. Oh, where. I use a no free TV. Okay. Well, I use another one, but we won't let me say this. I so I think the sensors, three of us have two roommates were a little bit more willing to pay the cable, but sure get to split it three ways. Well, here's the other thing. I have three roommates with four of us in a nice apartment and the streaming services only forty bucks. So it's ten dollars a mama, and we get every single channel. Really? Yeah. And you just watch you hit your favorite teams and it's just like a menu of when they're flying and you just click on it like I just click on. HBO Showtime, cancel. I'm gonna cancel right now. Cancel the longtime didn't cut. My cut. The cord was because of DVR because you need that as a blogger, but I got the streaming services. Now working in the menu, what am I doing then you show pictures of the show. So like you just scroll through CU. It looks inviting you like I like watching like modern family. I never watched my. I'm still on the guide system from the nineteen ninety four. You gotta cut that cord. Probably the page button scroll brutal dinosaur. Do you know me and bad channels? I go through before I get to a good one. It's page for like hundreds of channels. This is essentially like how your phone has just apps like I can just click off. Challenges comes up on my. I have I go. I'm not going to give me more, but I have one of the streaming things that I can just hooked up into my each DM I and I'm good to go anyway. Here's both court covers. And the first thing I did was hooked up the wildfire. And the second thing I did in my brand new New York City apartment, and I am not just I mean, yeah, this is exactly what it did. I, I hooked him. I play station for I updated. I hadn't. I needed a. It was an hour update. I hadn't updated my PlayStation a longtime. Okay. I downloaded the new game, the new. What is it called? The golf club. Twenty nineteen. Yep. To t g see, that's where this came after me building my nightstand to own through all this shit, the streaming service change of life. So it's relaxed. I wanted to relax and play video game. I haven't played a video. I've often said that the demise of Tiger Woods for the last couple of years. The biggest problem that I've had side from, you know, he could have won all these things and been the greatest golfer, just typically of all time could've past Jack and since the and all that stuff is that we lost EA video games and the progression that like you know, mad and has gotten to NBA two k. and that company like they've gotten so realistic that tiger Wood's video games would have been on real talked about this. So I was so jacked up to play a nice relaxing game. I you start like in q. school, I made like this player. They bring you out to a driving range and like you start hitting and you feel like a million bucks. You're like this game, so realistic. And that may be the only problem I have is that it's too realistic you. It's fucking impossible. The game is in this video game, and I guess this is appealing to people is so realistic that you almost can't play it like you have a back swing and it tracks every motion, right? Here's tempo the way you're coming down on the ball like you can hit different types of shots. You can hit like a, you can hit like a chop chop down shot. If you just do that with the analog, you can hit a fade. If you just do it with the analog, you can hit a draw. But every time I went to make a swing, I just hit it out of bound. So I play Q-School and playing TPC Scottsdale, and I'm like, jacked up the first hole. I made a fourteen because like you just don't know what you're doing. Tread daddy. I'm telling ya. Yeah, it's so mind. The thing kept saying that my transition of the top was terrible. So I'm talking my guy literally couldn't hit the ball inbounds because they're telling me I'm pulling it back straight and all that. But I'm Russian from. My backstory into my downswing. So my guys a lot of sink and I like can't make contact the fucking golf ball. So I play with lurch in the game by the way the courses and like the all six on believable sick, like it's awesome, but it's impossible in fucking the only reason that I know the game is playable is because for some God forsaken reason, lurch, my roommate is like sick at it, isn't that good at all that weird shit, though. He's groping pong player. I don't know that PR hog is like you're good at the golf club. Twenty-ninth kills don't explain great at like, yeah, can control when he's plays what it was like. The first hole I'm talking. I literally made him switch controllers with me. I was so adamant that I was like, you don't understand minds on a different setting. Like I literally, I'm going straight back straight through straight back straight through straight Baxter. He threw out about every fucking like what is going on here. We switch controllers. He made barmaid like a twelve. He's control the butter knives in the video game. I couldn't hit a guy. It's real real, hit the word I couldn't get away. That's the most. Okay. Thank you think. All right. And also they always give you a wedge on the skirts of the green. Right? So you're just in the first cut and you're like, put this thing. They give you a little. They give you a nice little lob wedge. You're like, I just have to tap this thing. Just tap it and just tap, tap, tapping, and you do it, and it goes two inches, and then you take a full swing and you skull fuck it over the green. So there's really no getting around this thing and the the putting's impossible. But if there's anything I can sell for the video game, it's that it's not. It's so realistic that if you get good, it is fun to probably play against a buddy if you're both. Good because you can't like do any spin like Tiger Woods. Yeah. So you legitimately have to hit the ball perfectly to have any sort of backspin and I guess you have to progress your player to get the attributes. Yeah, to have backs. Like right now I'm like hitting the green and it's just rolling off and into the water. There's just nothing you can do. Yeah. And my guy to like I was able to what have I was so bad of this game lurch bet me heat. We are on the eighth tea and he goes, I will give you eighteen shots from here on it up at your ten bucks. I be and it was a, I barely won like. And the reason I one I was doing these half swings. My guy was driving at one eighty off the tee because the only way that I could not hit it out of bounce like if I tried to rip it, I, my transition socks in this game. I can't hit the call. Fuck it was bumping it down there and I had I had eighteen shots to work with. I bunting dollar bonding down there and I finally beat them, but I ll Jit, I beat them by like two jobs and maybe our fault. I think I may have put it on like regular or even like. So there was like extreme mode and then there was like hard and easy. I didn't put it on easy. I put it on regular or like hard, whatever it was. They don't show you where your backswing is when you're swinging only when you hit a practicing. So if there's anything that I would add to that, it's either I have to change the mode and go to an easier one, which I'm assuming shows you all have on the middle mode, and I think it shows everything. Okay. So I'm on a road where it's just like a blank screen, and you don't know where you're back swinging forward swings until you hit the ball. So there is some like imagine of racist plan on that mode. Yeah. I don't know. It's very, it's very knows this. Has you guys all sorts of this? It's hard day, but it's it is like golf. You're like working on your swing. It's there is there is something sexy about like playing with your body and like an eighty three win in grinding three eighty four win. Like we'd always put two thousand seven Tiger Woods and you could shoot up forty seven forty, seven forty, six at pebble around. Yeah, right. Yeah, the whole outbreak go a couple times every single shipping out into the fairway. I literally was a slice. I am. I was like, playing it safe. It was great the other. So there's a couple of beautiful aspects to it. One is there's unlimited golf courses. Yeah, like people you see, there's a big mode that people take very seriously. It's create your own golf course moat I like that. So and then you can just upload them to the internet and they're just up there forever. Beautiful. So the shittiest part about the ROY game that we don't talk about is that there's only like eight golf courses on the whole game and it ruins the whole. That was the worst thing that's ever happened. Avenue games, effort. And this is unlimited golf course. I'm talking. You can just scroll through the pages all day long. Zillow Monique there Omar. A lot of guys make like their own courses or like famous courses, they make their own version of and all that. So you can search him and find courses and play a bunch. Of course not potential the this is their first year that they integrated with the PGA up. And I noticed like to k, I think, has some sort of like their logo pops up, which I was stunned by. Yeah, I noticed that too. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. So to k. like I guess, has money into it and production. So I think that the future of this game is really bright because once they start if I can just like play with Tiger Woods in this which I know will never happen. But if I could start playing with any sort of player that would be you, I don't wanna play with myself. I'm gonna make Tiger Woods. True. I'm gonna do that tonight. I talk about like I hate it, but it's a dictating because now he's very better now I have to get better. It's awesome, but I just it's not fun yet because I suck up. Right. Like I can't tell you how my swing is the game like transition. It's like every transition stinks. It's like every single time every swing I make. I feel like the clown from happy gilmore's start laughing at it sucks. But I, I am going to go home and I'm gonna play my buddies. I think like I think we're gonna look back. Like a ninety. Two won the game. Yeah, let's do a week. And I actually even after my last round, I pulled up a couple of YouTube videos. People were telling me about it and stuff like that. So we need to do research, a low attribute level airside hair that we can't hit the ball far. My cousin like to sixty and like they don't have a smooth swing. You can get different swings on telling you. I know my guy too is like the most generic like original version player. He's got just like a generic red shirt, blue pants and black shoes and a black belt. John doubt. He's like right off the conveyor belt is like, that's my guy, and he just sucks it gone. So it's not over for back next week. I'm going to fire it up to get really frustrated. 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He's the one who asked the question, would you rather have tiger when the tour championship? But it guarantees a US loss and the Ryder Cup that we debated for a while. And then Frankie had like a big I told you so moment. After we lost the Ryder Cup, I remember this Brandel Chamblee ask. He basically submitted goes. So I gotta follow my question a couple of weeks ago about Taiwan's championship guarantee. You has cost us the Ryder Cup. Am I to blame? I feel horrible about the. I think he might be to blame the one wrinkle that we didn't have any original question is r. yeah, tiger it's the wind and that feels great. But then he absolutely shits. At the Ryder Cup and you don't feel as good right afterwards. It would be so much cooler if the Ryder Cup happened before the torch championship, yes, we'd be on cloud a billion right now tiger and we all still feel good about tiger. I would imagine, but you don't feel as good. I am great going on the record as saying, I'm I have no regrets about what happened. I will take the feeling that I had after Tiger Woods won completely surpassed the down feelings I had when USO when the US loss, and he played as bad as he did. Okay. I I agree, but I also ever felt more. Yeah, I, yeah, I never felt better. I felt more better than I did worse. And I think that you guys definitely felt that way too, but here's no, but here's, here's what I say. I don't feel as good now as I did Sunday night when tiger won championship about tire, same us. You're saying it didn't carry over like as long as you would think like your? Oh, I'm just saying, like from what I saw at the Ryder Cup it, it took a. Notch down, like my thoughts about how confident I am entire, like when he won the torch amo chip is like, holy, fuck you. Like he is back like he, he can do any the best player in the world. Again, he almost won the FedEx Cup. Here we go, and then he sucked at the radical players in the world sucks. Threat Cup, right? Like all those guys sucked. Bryson was coming off two wins. He was like, those guys are Tiger Woods. I know of Tigers always sucked at the radical. That is the one part where I felt. Okay. Tigers always know that was a spin zone. Everybody was saying, but deep down. I was also kind of like sucked and everyone he played with sucked. So it's like as the whole entire like is the entire US team just like never gonna be able to rigs is right though. If the Ryder Cup had been before the tour championship, I would feel a billion. I can't. I couldn't take couldn't give away that that win. He's giving it away. Frank. We would feel better if tiger didn't suck dick, the Ryder Cup. All right. So go back in time. They're giving away the tiger win for a Ryder Cup win. No, no, I rest my case. Pretty good, Frank. What's fair point? Should we end the podcasts on that? Because I think we are pretty much done here. That was Brando like Brenton. Let's grab a drink. You might just earned a drink. I mean, look, it's a good point. We got put in a tough spot when we decided to hitch our wagon the way that we did and it just couldn't have the chips couldn't Afam better. We've worked Ryan when tiger one cry. I cry yesterday, watching him win again. I get chills with everybody, fallen bite him on eighteen this guy be slings on YouTube. I told you about this name. This guy be slings on YouTube. He goes through and he takes everyone attack with rounds from this year and he just boils the whole round down to basically every second that they showed tiger during the round and that's it. So I also this porn, all his videos are like you're on porn dot com. Awesome. All of his videos are like twenty to thirty five minutes log on YouTube and it's like Tiger Woods. Final round torch Abby chip, and it's literally every single shot. The tiger hip and it's not just the swing. It's like the minute that they cut to him. All right, Raj. What's Tigers out here? It's amazing commentary all over the place or does it like sink? No, because it's it's like it's the real footage from a real tournament from the real broadcast coverage. They just cut out every part of it. That's not Tiger Woods like Tiger Woods. How many views do these videos have? That's that's what I wanna know how it's like thousand, but like I thought it was going to be like fourteen, no. So. Trent. Daddy's looking them up right now on the YouTube machine. My point in saying this six hundred thirty thousand one of them does. So I'm saying this. So for example, like I watched the final round shot by, yeah, there is it look at his cover photo is the tiger tiger. With the backwards. See his videos do well. I'm not the only guy. Yeah, seventy one thousand one hundred. Four thousand. Yes. So there's people watching it. I thought this was something you had found that no one else had found it was just you and be slings watching. I got to be a little rattled that I talked about it because I don't want him to get like shut down. There's no way what he's doing can be legal literally, no way, but this guy he is awesome. And you could spend ladies and gentlemen. You can spend your whole night's watching this guy's videos, a Tiger Woods. It is just straight porn. It's like the one from the torch Ambit ship final round. Like as soon as you turn it on the guys like next on the t. from Jupiter, Florida, Tiger Woods. And then he rips one and twirls into the, I t and then the next day it cuts to his Tigers hitting his approach onto the green. Forty minutes straight, four minutes of just forty minutes. Stripping went to went back and I went back and all the way and be slings videos than his first video is impractical jokers botchy episode. And then he has a bunch of looks like a high school soccer tapes in that. He's like, fuck this. I'm just going to start doing Tiger Woods. So his saga tape has sixty five us. Forty-three views, forty, three fifty, five years. And then how to end the call duty montage. That is how you figure out the game like tiger sells his next one from tiger has six hundred eighty six hundred thirty two thousand. So that's must have been what it was like. All right. I'm doing. I'm doing time off school soccer. You wanted to hold his whole round of the Arnold Palmer final round and twenty two minutes I've watched. I've watched like all these. I believe that he's awesome to watch. You're gonna love it. Interesting. So be slayings if you're out there listening, keep doing what you're doing. You are just one of the best accounts in the history of YouTube, and if you get shut down for this Email me your new name when you start doing this again and I'm going to watch, I'll promote us. We get some more followers in there, but your count is fantastic. He doing what you're doing. Everybody go check out Beazley's on on you, the direction. I didn't think we were page. I'm telling you is pages life-changing. It'll Justin. I don't watch football at night. Really. I don't watch. Any other sports? I just watch Tiger Woods. Thomas more college, verse Washington and Jefferson, two thousand eight soccer game hour and thirty seven minutes. Good stuff here. Really. This is the one fifty five us. Any comments though. All right. That's it. We pretty much have to. We gotta do gotta let Frankie ended on the note that he's right. We basically we, there's zero percent chance that I would give up that tiger win for pretty much anything in the world. Right? Yeah. Let alone like fuck the US team. I don't even like those guys that much of this. They all just a bunch of drama queens seems like they are and it's like the European team right now. They're just so much hotter than our guys are like, Qatami flee with that because the coolest guy in the world, I wanna hang guy Molinari's Molinari's the funniest guy ever seen in he would be if he worked in the barstool office, he would. They would just keep a camera on his face all day and he would have ten laugh out loud facial expressions. So those guys are way cooler than our guys right now. Their stocks are obviously way higher. So yeah, I would gladly give up that win. I'm sorry, I would gladly just be. Yeah, we'll take what we had because the tire win was so awesome. You can go watch the whole thing on bee's slings YouTube account. Go, check it out. We'll be back next week. Next Tuesday, we got some big gas coming up this fall. So. People should get jacked up for that. And if you haven't listened to the Greg Norman tape, the Greg Norman interview from last Thursday goal do because one of the best we've ever done till I got hit hard heart. No. Both people would have given up by now all the robots, these ups and downs somehow. Boehm play through. So all you critics share at the winner's circle. I'll be there with a half smile for you. Jomie. These lawyers stream spending money like my ex wife. Gamble, drink smoke three packs a day. HALE country music -sposed to be this way. From the heart man, I hit it hard. Peeve in our.

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Episode 77: Talking Mopars - LIVE #2

Talking Mopars

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Episode 77: Talking Mopars - LIVE #2

"Welcome to talking about pars number seventy seven. This is the replay from last night's livestream from facebook. I interacted with some people in the chat was a lot of fun. They were regulars and i enjoy their company. They join me last night in the chat. We had a good time. We're talking youtube. We talked boogie van stuff. Because i'm going through a huge van to buckle right now. And i was originally going to go on a mope permission this weekend to go get my friend. Stacy's van now plans of changed to find out what they changed to either go to facebook and watch the video or you can continue listening right here either way. I think we should just kick this thing off. What he what he say. All right so without further ado. If you are a mope aren't you are in the right place. Don't go anywhere. You're tuned into the best moped enthusiasts driven podcast on planet earth. And i'm your host chris. Albrecht better known as the moped hunter. And this is talking. Mo- pars live. You're listening to talking with the car. Hunter your direct mention of all things. Oh gosh am i live again. Well here we are again. Folks thursday night it is late once again and here i am just winging it for another episode of talking parse this episode number seventy seven and we're live You know sometimes. I i just like to wing it. And that's what i've been doing lately on these thursday nights for the friday. Release of the podcast. I don't really expect anybody to tune in on thursday especially when you got to work on friday but hey you know. It's worth a shot. Maybe we'll have some fun tonight. Who knows but what i can tell you is that i'm going to tell you the latest boogie van news because as a lot of you know i am on a quest to get a boogie. Van for the podcast. I wanna turn a boogie van. A dodge custom van into a mobile podcasts studio for shows and events and things like that. So i'm really looking forward to finding one. And i thought i did but as it turns out it might not work out. I had a mo par mission plan for this weekend and things just got a little crazy at the eleventh hour. So you know it is what it is but we're going to get into that. We're gonna listen to some more listener messages. That i got on the voice mail and that's pretty much it. I'm gonna keep it kind of short. I don't. I don't wanna keep guys around for two hours again so you know if you are a mo- parentheses then you are in the right place. Don't go anywhere you're to new. The best mope aren't these eastern podcast on planet earth. And i'm your host chris. Albrecht better known as the mo- part hunter and this is talking mo- parse it's up logan. Hey guys hey everybody Once again here. We are on thursday night. It's gosh going on eleven o'clock and once again i just thought i'd wing it tonight and Fill you guys in on a little bit of what's going on in my world Like i said during the intro. I've been looking for a podcast. A boogie van. Because i grew up around him. My dad had a seventy five dodge. Shorty custom van that he built from a cargo van from the ground up and ever since then. I've thought they were cool. I've always thought you know. The creeper vans were cool and You know. I'm very very excited to get one. And i thought i had when my friend stacy and he offered to sell it to me for a very good price and i have everything lined up. I'm going to get the trailer tomorrow. I'm actually renting a truck. Because you know i'm cool with doing local halls and stuff with my little fifteen hundred but i'm gonna go over the pass and pick up this other van and i really didn't want to risk not having a break controller to call me a pussy if you will but my trucks and taken a lot of beating and it needs service so you know what i thought. I'd rent a diesel truck. Because i miss mine. I really miss my dodge diesel. And i thought you know what it might be nice to rent one so so i'm going to rent one and You know something something about what. I was doing this weekend and van. I'm going to pick up I started thinking about it a little bit more. And i remember there being some sort of an issue and the issue is that my friend. Stacy got this van from a good friend of his. That friend bought it from some other guy. But stacey's friend. This is going to get confusing. Stacey's friend never got a bill of sale or transfer the title from the guy he got it from and then he gifted it to stacey so stacey sent me a picture of the title and whatnot and everything was good and i started thinking about it though and i was like well. There's no paper trail know there's no bills sale and technically if the title isn't in your name you really don't have you know legal ground to sell it you know. And that's not stacy's fault. He just wanted to see the van gogh to a good home. And i wanted the van. What's up mike anthony. What's up I know dude. I wanted to diesel So i was in a predicament. I thought you know what. I don't wanna go all the way. Stacey lives in eastern washington on the west side so it was gonna be basically. It was called a five hour drive. And i thought to myself you know what. Let me just call the licensing office. Because locally there's a really good licensing office in their mobile people. So i thought you know what they'll give you the straight you know they'll they'll shoot it straight with me so i call him up and tell them the situation but at the time that i called i completely somehow someway stacy told me the whole story and the guy before he the guy who gave it to him. I i only knew about that situation because it went over my head the rest of the story. I completely didn't realize that the guy that stacey gartrell from never transferred the title yada yada yada. So i called the licensing office just trying to see what the deal was about getting. The title situation handled with the way that i thought it was which was just there was no bill of sale and never got transferred yada yada and they told me this whole. It's going to be a nightmare of paperwork. If it can even be done. And i asked him i was like can my friend so me the van and basically what they said is no so i had to make the call to stacy or rather i messaged him and then he called me and we talked about it and i was like look i i've had some situations with titles and stuff in the past and i really want to avoid that kind of a headache. So he understood. He felt really bad that we didn't have this all ironed out. And i felt bad because i wasn't paying attention when he sent me the picture of the title. Yada yada yada. I should've been paying closer attention. But i didn't end. I paid for it so now. I have a trailer that i'm gonna get. I'm going to borrow from a friend. And then i have this truck that i've rented so i'm like all right. Well what do i do now. So thankfully there's always a plan b and there's a couple of other vans that i've been keeping on the on the back burner and one of them just came up recently on craigslist. Sold today so that i already seen that because i was actually looking at it for a parked van. That's gone sells like all right but There was a another option before. I got the mr norm tribute truck. I was working a deal with another one of my buddies and he was gonna sell me a ten grill and he reached out to me when he found out. I sold my daughter and my truck and he said hey look i know you sold your tin girl. But i've got a couple of. I'm trying to sell so he sends me pictures and i'm like oh very and at the time i was kind of like i kind of wanted to go away from the girl stuff because after selling mine i was like oh man. I probably should have done that. I have regarded immediately But as it turns out for the greater good but he sends me some information about his ten girls. And i'm like okay cool cool. Yeah and he had a short bed. adventure se really cool and three sixty and runs and drives so immediately immediately. I'm in. He gives me a price. And i'm like okay. You know we can work with this. And i was actually really excited but in the pictures i saw van in the background. So of course. I'm like hey what's the deal with the van and he says it's really not for sale basically and i'm like okay and then We start talking about the truck. I'm telling him you know. Hey there's this other deal. And this was the mr norm truck. There's another deal that i'm working on right. Now that falls through basically you know. Let's do it and actually we were working out the deal on his truck when I think it was the time. My timelines a little messed up. So i was actually working the deal with him on his truck and then gosh it must have been a dare to later just if you heard the story. I just thought on a whim. I would reach out because i remembered i said if i ever had the money i would try to buy that truck so before i pulled the trigger on my other friends truck. I decided you know what. Let me reach out. And see if i can get this mr norm truck and that's what happened so i told my other friend. Hey man i'm sorry i. I ended up getting a truck. I really wanted so. He was like no problem. And i told them. Hey i'll help you sell what you got. Because they're pretty cool. And like i said at the time he didn't wanna sell the van with a couple of days later and i think this was before i actually got the mr normal. Yeah it was before actually made the deal on the mr norm truck but it was pretty much happening. He reached out and said well. You know basically. I'm willing to sell van. So now i'm like. Oh god what am. I getting myself into something and okay. How can i get the mr norm truck and the truck in this van and then possibly flip van while still getting my friend. Stacy's van so i'm in this. I'm in this entire shit. Show trying to figure out how to make this happen and then here we are. Now where stacy's van right now is on hold. I may buy in the future if he can get the title straightened out. Because i do like the van. And let's be honest. Vans are getting hot right now. So if you can get your hands on mine as well. So and i may use it as a part span in the future. Who knows but that's still on the back burner right now but i still have a truck that i rented and i already told my buddy. I was going to borrow the trailer somehow. Home like all right. Well maybe i'll reach back out to my friend and see if he's still interested in selling. I killed that. I killed that idea in In the first place. I was like you know what i i can't deal with all these vehicles you know so i had my sights set on after got mr norm that truck. I decided you know what. I'm just gonna get stacy's van and that'll be it for projects from me for a while and then the van had kind of had some issues there and then i reached out to this guy with this other van and i said hey you still got it. And then long story short. He ended up saying yeah. I do and i'll sell it to you so in a span of a few hours. I was able to make something else happen. And it's interesting. Because the van that i'm going to look at this. I shouldn't say look. I'm gonna go buy it Is basically my dad's van with the exception of my dad's was black and this is a different color and it's pretty cool so it's got the big single door in the back not the not the barn doors So that's what my dad's was and the color from what i understand and from what little research i've done so far. It's pretty rare. So i'm interested in seeing where this goes crazy stacy's was A longer wheelbase. It wasn't the extended one but it was a longer wheelbase which was fine but in reality. I really wanted to get as close to my dad's van as i couldn't. My dad had a short. So i found one and i'm pretty excited about it. Got a three sixty in. It needs a little bit of work but you know don't they all So the mo- permission this weekend is i'm going to get van and bring it home and then go from there so that's the update on the boogie van. Which you know. It's been a long time coming. The cool thing about this is it's got virgin steele so it's never been the sides have never been cut so it doesn't have bubble windows in it and i actually have some star bubble windows so get to this van and throw some penta stars in it so i'm really excited about that. That'll be fun Oh mike you know buddy. Roy says in washington you can get the name and address of the title owner. Do l. and send them a registered letter asking them to the fraternity. Then if it comes back on opened you can file for title in your name. You may have to get it inspected by the wfp. But it's doable. I've done it a few times. So i didn't wanna get into too much personal stuff but one of the people has passed away so that kind of compliment a complicates things rory And to be honest i i would much rather have stacey iron out all that stuff and get the title in his name. And then we'll go from there No big deal thanks. logan. I'm gonna need you never know But yet i just you know. I'm that type a jerk that when i have my sights set on something I have to make it happen with the. I really did want to get stacy's van and it's no hard feelings between me and him. You know i. I still like the guy and maybe in the future all by the van who knows but for now i'm gonna go ahead and hold off on that just because my own peace of mind i don't need. I don't need that kind of thing. Lingering in my head like okay. Now i gotta do a state patrol inspection and all that if stacy gets the title in his name. Then it'll be perfect. And i'll be able to get the get the van from him at a future date but for now i've locked in this deal for this other van and i'm pretty excited about it and i was excited for stacy's too so you know it is what it is so i guess we'll get the book van and go from there. I'm going to record video. And i really didn't. I was gonna make it a surprise and do all that. bs again. But i was like nah. Let's get on the podcast and talk about it. So that's what's going on there Some i have like. I said i wanna be able to not only toe the mr norm truck but i want to be able to podcast. I wanna have all my podcast equipment. in the van to have the ability to podcast from events. So that'll be pretty cool Also speaking of events. I have booked my plane. Tickets for holly's mo- party in bowling green kentucky At the end of september and in november i will be attending sima If i have to break into that thing no i'm probably going to get a media pass. I think that's the only way i'll be able to get in but I'll be seen so if any of you are going to be hollies mo- party or sima say hi. Maybe we can do a little podcasting. But that's that's the plan. What's up kelly logan. I'm really excited about your duster dude. Come together pretty quick. I like it So you know we're just doing the damn thing you know. I'm kinda just lately. I've just been flying by the seat of my pants you know. Ever since i got that mr trump it it was like been a whirlwind me because for one. Here's another story so for those of you. That don't know. Mr norm son norm. Junior has a facebook page. It's called mr norms memorabilia. And they've been going through. Mr norms private collection and basically getting all of the last bit of signed items and memorabilia. That he has and some of them obviously. They're keeping for the family but some of them they're auctioning some of these items Because obviously mr norm can't sign anything so anything that signed by mr norm. That's it so. On saturday i caught it. Live and what he does he's been auctioning stuff Lee has lee norm junior. And i went on there. And he was showing some stuff that he's auctioning showed this painting now. I don't know if you guys know who dave snyder's but he's a. I'm pretty sure that's dave's neider. He is a very very well known automotive. Any crates these amazing paintings And lee norm junior. Had one of these paintings signed and it's it's a limited edition numbered painting. So it's it's you know it's pretty rare but So it signed by dave and mr norm and it's a print. It's huge right so it was up for auction so of course me being me. I see it. And i'm like that would be great in here in the podcast studio was like i want that. Because it's like an. It's a painting of grant spaulding dodge. it's really cool I should probably see if i can find it online Show you guys a picture but I'm i'm sitting there and the auction at three hundred and fifty bucks so me on like here. You know what i mean and for a long time. I thought that it was mind. Thank thanks very logunov. Csm anthony seymour. Bust i get it. We're gone so i i'm the only bidder at three hundred fifty bucks and i'm looking at how many people are watching. There was more people in there than there are in here right now but there was twenty people in there. I was like well. I hope nobody wants that thing more than me. So i mean the the livestream that he was doing lasted you know like an hour and a half or something like that. But it wasn't until the very end that some guy came in and started We got into a little bidding war. And i thought i don't like to lose so i was like all right. Let's do this. And i knew how much i was willing to spend. And it was an ungodly amount. It was ridiculous. I probably won't be able to buy by this van if i had bought the painting. For what what. I thought i was going to have to buy it for. But we got into this bidding war. And i ended up getting the painting for you know. I guess it's public knowledge for six hundred so i i spent six hundred dollars on this painting. But there's gonna be no more. You know what i mean. I think the only ones left were three. The one that i bought one norm junior has and then i think he's giving his son the other one so i thought that the only place that would be worthy aside from their houses to have that would be the talking part podcast studio so hopefully. I'll be getting that in the mail soon. I was really excited win. That i wish that guy hadn't bid me up because i knew he was gonna lose. I i really just wanted to. Hey you don't even bother. Just let me have it for three hundred fifty bucks 'cause I'll be here for a while and You know. I wanted. And i probably shouldn't have been that that careless with my money especially when i got other stuff i need to buy collectibles man especially mr norm stuff I i had to get it. So i got that If you don't If you haven't heard. Mr norm passed away. Unfortunately so you know. There's a lot of stuff in his collection. That is going to be auctioned. So i suggest you go follow mr norms memorabilia and get a notification because you can get some cool stuff for cheap. I mean what i bought was probably the most expensive item and you know. I'm sure they've got other cool stuff. I know that there was a bunch of other stuff that was signed that i didn't buy just because i i had to keep all my all my all my gold nuggets waiting for that painting. Because i i was hoping no one was gonna gonna buy some other stuff but this guy had come in. He's like oh it'll be great my collection. I'm like It'll be better in mind so while we won that but So you go follow mr norms memorabilia Gosh what else did i want to cover tonight. We've only been doing this for twenty minutes. I didn't want to go for two hours again. Once i once. I get past an hour and i'm by myself and i don't have any friends to give me some backbone and helped me out. It starts going off the rails so we're gonna keep it a little short but i do have some voice messages that i got I do like receiving voice messages. Because as much as i would love to read the emails that i get to you guys live. It would be a complete trainwreck. Promise you that so. It's easier for me to play voice messages and thankfully i have some listeners that too frequently. Send me messages. So we'll play some of those in a minute anthony. No i did not. I bought this truck. Okay and the plan was always to somehow get it out to an event. You know carlisle hollies mo- party because this is going to be the second year of hollies mo- party I didn't make the first one. Which was regrettable. Because someone that i know in the podcasting world rob kibi who has a podcast that was interviewed on called the muscle. Car place He went out there. And i was supposed to go out there. And we were gonna do Some podcast he was going to do his podcast. And i was gonna go around and interview people for mine. But i just couldn't make it happen. I couldn't get the time off work. I didn't have the money and I was supposed to do some promotion for holly but it just didn't work out you know first year show Things got a little hectic for them. Things got hectic for me. And frankly i didn't have the money to do it so it didn't happen and rob got an interview. I think the only podcast interview with mr norm which left me a little sour. Not at rob. But i had tried. I reached out to mr norm a few a couple times and he was a busy guy so i didn't blame him and i didn't really want to push him too hard but i was like. Hey i got this podcast. I think everybody would love to hear more personal stories. You know everybody knows the general story. And i've covered it on this podcast but i thought it would be really cool to get mr norm on the show and digging deep and rob did a pretty good job with the interview. But you know rob's not a rob's not a hardcore mode park. I you know he's got he's got generally or whatever which is cool you know to each their own but i thought that there was a lot left on the table with mr norm interview interviewing like. I didn't want to be. But i was like you know this may be the last interview. I mean he's getting old. You know what i mean. We don't live forever folks. So i was a little disappointed that some of the questions that i had didn't get answered. You know so and so my goal was always to get to mr. norm somehow and get that interview and this was before i even had the truck and now that i have the truck. My my main goal was like okay. How can i get it to one of these events and i. i probably wouldn't have driven it. I would have had a trailer which is fine I was actually going to ship it. And then fly out but You know now it's not going to happen. I was gonna have I was going to try to get mr norm on. The podcast live and i was going to have him hopefully signed the truck and take a picture with the truck. I thought that would have been great. I was really looking forward to that. And then what was it a couple of weeks. After i got the truck he passed away. Which was like. You've got to be kidding me. You know what. I mean You know more disappointed that i really wanted to have him on the show. Because i thought that you know maybe there was some. Maybe there was some more cool stories that we could mine out of it. Because everybody's heard the stories you know we know how grand spaulding dodge was formed and All the all the big stuff that everybody's heard before he's done interviews before it's not like it'd be the only interviews ever done but It was an opportunity for me to also reach out to all you guys and go. Hey when you want to know for mr norm because there were some things that i wanted to actually asked him One of the times. I because this was all i communicated with him through facebook and i said well you know i understand. You're busy guy and you can't come on the show. is it. okay. If i ask you a couple of questions so one of the questions i asked him was if you could go back and in putting the three eighty three in the dart would you have instead. Since in sixty eight they had the superstock dart and barracuda's with the heavies. Would you have instead. just you know. Beat chrysler the panchen or hearst is how it would go but would you beat them to the punch instead and put a hemi in the dark instead and he shot that down real quick. He's like no. The three eighty three was perfect for the car. You know after thinking about it some. I guess i agreed. But i don't know it seemed more like mr norm style. Throw him in a you. Know what i mean but He told me it was like comparing apples to oranges. When you talk about The three three in the hemi which i understood what you're saying but Yes i had a little bit of interactions with mr norm and the interactions were good. I'm i'm still bummed. I really wanted. I mean if you're gonna come on podcast you know especially maybe the one and only podcast you ever do in your mopey legend like mr norm. You should have been on talking mo- parts and that's not his fault. I should have done whatever. I could to get to mow party because i would have had that interview and no offense rob if you ever listen to this it would have been better than yours. And that's just because i'm hardcore. You know what. I mean this thing. I've been mr norm fan forever. So we would have we. Would we would have glossed over a lot of the stuff that everybody already knows. And i i would have done a little bit deeper. You know what's in his personal collection. You know what's his favourite mobile of all time. What does he think about the modern stuff if he could go back and do anything differently would he have. You know So it's an opportunity. I'll never get and bums me out. But the good news is i have been in touch with north junior and some people very close to mr norm. Who want to help me out with the tribute episode. Because i wanted to do a tribute episode. I told everybody. Hey send any stories of interactions. Or you know kind words that you want to say about mr norm to me on the voice mail and i'll play him on the show during a tribute episode. And so far. I really haven't i mean i was actually kind of disappointed that Not very many people have reached out. So i said you know what i'm not gonna let that go. I'm going to reach out to people myself and get people that were close to mr norm on the show to give us a little bit of an inside To the legend mr norm. So that's the story there. What else have we got in the chat here. Hey kirk no problem. Thank you for joining me. I I'm having a good time doing these things. And there's going to be plenty to come. Brayden what's up buddy. Yeah As far as getting into sima you have to be part of the industry and my in has been media and talking to some people. Now don't quote me on this. But when i just had the mope one hundred podcast page or the moped hundred facebook page They said that If i had a big following. I could basically get in as media so i already had an end but i just never made it happen Last year i was supposed to go and obviously with cove and all that. Bs that didn't happen but this year it's happening for sure If anything i'll be outside of the convention center with my microphone. This is chris from talking. Mo- pars live a but we're going to make that happen So you can get in as media in case you didn't know kelly says Since the hold on we can do this easier since the hell cat demon street legal. There should be dedicated account. Street shootout ten. Half tire vince. Eighteenth specializes play date registrants sixty mile driver. -cation ten thousand payout. Yeah so kelly's talking about Drag racing and here's my thing with drag racing and this might piss a lotta people off but I don't care about the big corporate stuff. I really don't. I like the more grassroots stuff and even street outlaws and i'm not talking shit I do enjoy the show but like the no prep stuff at the tracks. I just you know even on the street. I'm like these really. Aren't streetcars. come on. You're just racing bad ass cars on the street. I you know. I would much rather see like i like their daily driver stuff in there. Slow obviously compared to the two hundred mile an hour for again eight mile monsters. Two thousand horsepower cars but I like a little bit more grassroots stuff. That's why i was such a fan of farm truck. Because i thought you know. Hey here's a guy with a ratty truck doing his thing. I loved that but You know you started getting into the pro mod stuff. And i'm just not into it. You know it's cool. Don't get me wrong but I've said this before. I really liked the The supercar stuff and the fast the factory appearing stock tire races. I think that's cool. If you could make a muscle car appear period correct and still run a ten second quarter mile that to me is awesome but as far as what. You're saying kelly. I do think that would be awesome. You know small tire Being able to actually a real streetcars. Yes i think that would be awesome. Ten thousand dollars payout yeah But like you know I like what. I'm seeing with a lot of the content from youtube when they do a lot of street racing stuff like the legit. You know the the the illegal stuff you know i. I don't know. I guess it's because i it's always been of interest to me and you know that john force cool yeah he's a famous drag racer and stuff. You know no offense john. I'm sure you'll never listen to this but I'm not into it. I don't care you know what i mean. You got millions of dollars. I don't care about you. I care about the guy who works a nine to five wrenches in his garage and takes his car out on the weekend. kick some ass on some streets. I like that goes to the track. You know i'm not really condoning deadly. You know what i mean but it's still cool. I like that. A the danger is cool. I don't care what anybody says Is it safe. That's very debatable I would say no but hey you know what's safe anymore. You know what i mean but yeah i do like the idea of a some more interesting drag racing classes more geared toward the grass roots people. But you know you're talking about how cat and demons here so i don't know how many grassroots people can afford those but if there was a class and i know they do this but like the ratty muscle car class. I would like that As you find down the track you see the rust particles. That'd be cool. But yeah. I would definitely like to see more. Grassroots drag racing Especially televised you know. I don't care about. I shouldn't say i don't care. I'm just i don't have as much of an interest in you know the three second you know. Whatever top fueled alcohol cars. They're cool and shit but you know the nitro cars cool but It doesn't hold my interest. you know. Anthony it is a shame that the interview fell through Gosh having mr norman once again would have been so cool and you know it would have been fun to say that. I was the only podcast that ever got mr norm. It's talking mo- pars man. Come on you know so. It is what it is. I won't be myself up too much but it will be when. I'm on my deathbed if somebody's there with the microphone in my face and they go. What's your biggest regret about your podcast. I'll say that. I didn't get mr norm on 'cause i probably could've i didn't wanna push you know what i mean because i respect the guy but i i should. I should nudged him just a little bit harder. I shed. I should've said how much how much is gonna cost to get you on the show. You know what. I mean but didn't work out like that unfortunately kurt again. You're welcome. thanks for listening. Kelly says you should buy a mobile dino in tow it with the truck. that would be rad. That would be very read. That thought never even crossed my mind. That's a great idea. kelly. I'll give you credit for that if i ever happens. But here's the thing. Unless i sell a lot more t shirts which you can get at rs dot com there will be no mobile. Dino can't even afford that. There's no way. The mr norm truck while i don't really want to talk about how much i paid for it. I did overpay for the truck now. I didn't overpay for the mr norm truck itself like it's hard for me to explain this. If if that trump did not have the lettering on it. I would never have paid what i paid for it but because i fell in love with it in the first place five years ago because of that and because i didn't want to see the guy who owned it at the time the previous owner for me paint it. He actually reached out to me yesterday the day before. And he's like. Hey i see that you love the truck man. I'm i'm happy for you. Basically and he said that it was a cool truck but you know for him it was just. It was just a cool old truck for me. Like you know me high-performance heritage you know like i like i said previously on another show If you if you get technical with it that really wouldn't have been like some people have asked me. If it's a real. Mr norm shop truck. It is not and i'll never say it is and it's funny because a real mr norm historian and this is an insult. Anybody that's asked me about it. But like here's a good idea so actually have when you order stuff from the mr nor memorabilia shop you get one of these cool posters of mr norm. That's signed and there's only these left so get them while you're hot or while they're hot But If you look in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. Mr norm sold his ownership in. Grand spaulding dodge. My truck is seventy eight. So if you want to get technical It's a nice tribute but technically it's not correct. You know what. I mean if you if you were to call tribute correct. You know what i mean. So that's kind of a funny little piece of knowledge. And i've been waiting for somebody to call me on it and go well. Hey that's not accurate you know but nobody has so Now if they try. I can say well i already talked about it. So kelly says. I always wanted to seventy two g. s. demon performance test data Wanted to see okay. So you always wanted to see the seventy two g. s. demon performance test. I see you're saying I've never seen that would be really cool. You're talking about the one with the air cleaner that says try power on it where he He was a three forty cars that he put a six pack on If i remember correctly but i also know that there was a supercharged was that i thought there was a supercharge demon to I need to do more research on that. Because i've seen some interesting stuff out there I i'm pretty sure he had a car. That was supercharged that he sold his dealership. And i believe it was a demon. Don't quote me on that. I haven't done the research now. I'm going to have to do the research. Thank you kelly. That's that'll be a good episode. Anthony says the closest. I ever got to meeting. Mopeds royalty when i ran into tom hoover the grandfather hemi and the original ram charges team. Mo- parts of the strip in vegas that story in itself. That is another event that i would love to go to. I heard. now it's not just mo- parts of the strip though its muscle cars at the strip which is cool Actually the guy who bought my dart has an fa green sixty nine dodge dart that he drag races and his name's tracy grooms. I'm sure if you've been at muscle cars at the strip or parts of the strip you've seen it runs like nine or was a nine second car But now it's going to be blown on alcohol and When he bought my daughter was telling me that he was sending it to a shop to have an aluminum wing. Put on some parachutes. So it's going to be pretty bad ass now even more bad ass than it was before but you know. Every time i saw that dart at shows i knew that. That's what i wish. My dark could have been. But it would've never with the amount of money that i rake in with this podcast which is next to none That would have been hard a hard car to build for me. Kelly performance numbers for the supercharge demons. Bag okay yeah I have no idea there has to be a magazine. That's done something on it. I'm going to look into that kelly. We'll see we'll see if we can dig something up. And i don't to say in but i do know some people close to mr norm now and i'll try to find out what i can If anybody will know it'll probably be one of them or if we can find somebody who's done a extensive history on grants balding. Maybe we can find some stuff out. Logan says thank you. Grassroots is way more fun in my opinion it is man You know anybody can. That's why okay. Here's a quick example. That has nothing to do with mo- parse. But i'll say this. Actually i guess it kinda does there's that guy on youtube that took that. Trx that new trx ram and just beat the living shit out of it. And i guess he got in trouble with the cops or the law. I guess he got. He got eighteen charges for some pollution. Bs or something but Regardless some of the pictures he shows his of own. I haven't watched a lot of stuff. But i was a little bit curious about the charges that he received for that video so i saw video. And he's like in this very ritzy community in his garage and there's like i thought i saw lamborghini thought i saw mclaren and i'm like oh this is just a rich kid. You know what i mean. Yeah of course you can buy all the shit he's rich. You know so. I mean that kind of stuff that goes going back to the drag racing and stuff. Yeah if you've got millions of dollars you can do cool stuff. And i'm not saying anything bad against you know the mo- par drag races out there. Because they're doing their thing. You know leah. Everybody knows. Lear pruitt She's amazing and then there are several others. I can't think of their names right now. But i'm also not a big. I'm just not a big I don't wanna say sport of drag racing. Because i do like drag racing but when it comes to the corporate shit like the stuff on even nhra nationals. And i guess. I do have. I do have some beef with nhra. Just because they've always made it so hard for mo- par stuff you know what i mean A lot of these racing organizations These sanctioned events have always like handicap mopeds. Because we're more bad ass. You know what i'm saying. So i don't know i was kinda thought that was bs. I like let me put it this way. i'd rather watch a bunch of ratty thirteen second fifteen second twelve second. Maybe ten second ratty ass muscle cars. You know they don't even have to parse but that would be preferable I would rather watch that. Then you know all these anything that you could find on. es if if the drag racing is on espn. i don't give a shit about it. Okay so that's my opinion on drag racing. So i guess if i ever wanted a career in professional drag racing. That's not going to happen now. But a lot of Guys into drag racing and they're all bad asses and they all got cool cars way cooler than anything i've ever seen. It's got a bunch of corporate logos all over it So that's just my opinion. I know there's a lot of people that there's a lot of people that live. Nascar think it's boring shit. You know what. I mean. I wish i could. Are there places to watch all the old nascar videos like back. I mean look at some of the like if you look into nascar. Now it's like okay. You know you're pretty ever since dale earnhardt died. You know rested peacedale. All the safety stuff got really really an you know it's good that the safety got improved. You know what i mean. We don't see people die but back in the early petty days when it was like the you know the wing cars were out there in the talladega and all that That just seemed more bad ass to me and if anybody knows where i can go watch old nascar races with the wink cars. Please let me know. Because i would love to do that. kelly says boost is what's up you're correct Turbos are bad ass. I like a lot. But you know for a while i was. I was really into turbos. But i'm telling you. I really i really have been into Superchargers lately I think whipple's doing some really cool stuff I actually. I don't know how many people i didn't know about this company what i was doing some research after i bought the mr norm truck and i had some some extra money and i was like You know what. I kind of want supercharge this thing just for fun. You know. see what. I can get super charger and i had never heard. This is kind of hard to believe for some people that i've talked to but i've never heard of torque storm superchargers and you can get them for small block mopus for like twenty eight hundred bucks. All you need is a blow through carp. And i'm like what twenty eight hundred bucks and they're bad ass. I mean at least from the research i've done. They look pretty bad ass. I mean if you're trying to go if you really want to be really really fast you might wanna go a different route or get one of their crazier kits. But the one. I was looking at just the basic. It was twenty eight hundred bucks to me. That seems like a good deal. Because i'm not trying to win any speed records or anything like that. I just wanna have fun truck. So i dunno. Supercharged stuff is really cool to any and naturally aspirated stuff cool. I guess it just really depends you know if somebody said hey. Would you rather have a turbo charged. Gen three hemi or a supercharged. Gen three hemi or would you rather have an all motor. You know five. Seventy two hemi. I'd probably go with the five seventy two just because elephant. You know what i mean. But that's not to say that turbos aren't cool and supercharged aren't quite think they're bad ass. I i like it all if i could have one of each hell. Yeah give me one of each. You know what i mean. Logan says we have an event here at great lakes dragway called anarchy tons of classes from crazy fast cars to thirteen twenty index daily driver class c. I'm into that. I would love like events that would be cool because when the really fast jet is up. I'm gonna go get something to drink. Go get hot dog or something and then come back for the slower stuff. The stuff that i think i might be able to afford. You know what. I mean But yeah that sounds like a cool event dude i. How often do they have those things. Oh it's all know prep to that's cool. Yeah that there's something about you know i. It's dangerous man. You watch some of those no prep events and these guys are saying. they're losing. It and hidden walls disintegrating their cars. It's insane What else we got here. Kelly guy in west virginia has a mobile dino for twenty. Five thousand negotiable. Okay if you can find twenty five thousand people probably don't that if you could find twelve thousand people to buy a shirt for me. Did i will buy that mobile dino. And i will tell the hell out of it with mr norm. Okay so share. Share this with everybody. You know If i had money man. I'd be dangerous with a lot of money. Like if i was one of those richie guys. I literally get on this. Like what are you guys want to see. What should i go by. And i'm not destroying shit so if you think i'm gonna go destroy brand new. Trx yati mind. but i. i think i'd be pretty fun with money. I don't know if anybody that's rich. Wants to give me alone. See what i can do with it. what do you got. What are you gonna show kelly. What are we got here. I don't know if i can. I can't click on the link. Did that sucks. sorry. I will save that. Lincoln will check it out. Logan says there is a supercharge demon. I've seen some photos of it. Yeah it has. Yeah i know there is. I i need to find out more information about it and now i'm really curious and i've always been curious but i never really. It never really occurred to me to have an episode about if i can find out Some legitimate information whistling diesel is his name is he cool. I don't know the guy. I just i heard about him and i turned on one is one of his videos and he was in a pink sweatshirt and he just gave me the wrong first impression. I was like oh this guy's kind of maybe it's cool. I don't know the guy. So i guess it's wrong for me to judge them if he's cool he's cool and i i'll take your word for it. Kelly but I don't know there's something about. I just I don't know if you're going and you're you're kind of pulling your piece out and waving it around okay if you go by. Tr excellent destroy. The hell out of it. I don't really. I mean you're just looking for youtube heads but hey make your make paper. You know what i mean. That's how you make your money do it. But you're not gonna catch me. Reckon mo- parts to get views on youtube. I'll tell you that. Anthony says. Here's a picture of mr norm supercharge Can it won't let me copy and paste this. What just starting to piss me off Let's do this. Hold on a second guys. Let's look it up. Prance spaulding dodge supercharged demon. There it is okay. Let me get this pulled up on the screen. We can all look at it together sometimes. my computer doesn't like when i opened the internet while i'm livestreaming so if i cut off i'm sorry see if i could share my screen here. I haven't looked this. Yeah so if it's anything dirty. Some i see here cam trying to open it frozen right now. Sorry guys okay. Bring this over here. I think you guys can see this. Can you guys see this. Seventy two dodge demon gs asked mr norm street machine. Supercharging was a six solution. That boosted factory three forty eight three hundred and sixty horsepower. Bill by mr norms grants spotting dodge the only one finished petty blue so there was more than one. It's an authentic paxton supercharge mr norm. Dss demon rotisserie restoration day. Correct three forty new old stock paxton superchargers specifically for the g. s. team and this is good information. Consul shifted torque flight. Black buckets factor gauges console sports during Signed by mr norm there. You go multiple award winner. It sold for sixty nine thousand five hundred fifty dollars. That seems like a good deal that was back in two thousand thirteen in two thousand thirteen. That's pretty good money nowadays. I think that's a deal especially considering The passing of mr norm. We'll see i'm just trying to run through. This might be a little bit boring for the people that are listening that okay. So there's all the Mr norm Grants polling history. Which i forget what episode was but you can go back During one of the earlier episodes. I did One on grant spaulding dodge mr Actually i think it was the second episode. I talked about the The big blocked that he built a okay and seventy one at the twilight of the horsepower. Era mr norms developed the dodge demon three forty six pack. This car kept kept performance high while leaving. The insurance premiums relatively low on paper. It looked like three forty demon. But it wasn't. This was a full blown performance machine with quarter-mile times to prove it. That's that's mr norm style. Let's see what he does. Most multi-car history books will tell you. The market for these cars ended by nineteen seventy two for the most part. It did thanks. To a number of converging events skyrocketing insurance rates government emissions mandates and changing market demographics made the market all but disappear but norm krause. New americans still had that need for speed but it was an autumn a new automotive era one in which he ever larger engines higher compression and wilder camps could no longer be used to create power. Mr norm that significantly modifying the factory engine would raise the ire up the government so he performed an old hot rod trick he installed a paxton superchargers very cool. The super charger fed seven pounds of boost to accustomed aluminum air box around the factory. Carburetor mopeds block three forty made two hundred and seventy five horsepower. Nineteen seventy but the compression had to be lowered in seventy two to accommodate the move to lead free gas which allowed mr norms to supercharge this engine without internal modifications it was a slick solution that boosted the factory. Three forty from a wheezing two hundred and forty horsepower. All the way to a stout three hundred sixty horses the package also included oversized police. A modified fuel pump pressure regulator a heavy duty oil pump and vows spring retainers and assure grip three fifty five rear axle before delivery s was donald tune. On mr norms clayton chassis dyno. My first car was a nineteen seventy three forty four speed with three twenty three years. That was ridiculously fast to sixty miles an hour. So i can only imagine what an extra eighty five horsepower and three fifty five years would be like the base price was an was a reasonable thirty six hundred ninety five dollars but these were truly custom cars and mr norms could make them as plane or as fancy as the customer wanted that bought zero to sixty in about five point six seconds and the quarter mile in around thirteen ninety two hundred and six miles an hour very cool. Yeah that mr enormous like this says a ahead of his time. That's awesome trying to see if okay. So according to mr norm himself he remembers about one hundred. Gs s cars. Were built out of the eighty. Seven eight thousand seven hundred and fifty nineteen seventy-two demon three forty s k. Yeah so these were specially built by mr norm. That's why the gs asked the grand spaulding. the grand spaulding sport or grant balding special. I'm having a brain fart right now I can't believe it. Sold for sixty nine thousand dollars in two thousand thirteen. I thought the market dipped back then but I that car now who you might be knocking on the doors. Closer six figures maybe even over. Who knows if only one hundred if only a hundred out of the nearly nine thousand seventy two demon through forties. Were mr norm g s demons. How many of those are still around. You think you know what i mean. That's crazy all right. That's not very cool. Thanks for sharing that dude. Let's get back up here. Thanks anthony appreciate it. Logan says every fall and spring normally around june in september for the fall one for the anarchy event goes my voice and we're already almost going on in our. This is insane. Logan go check out that anarchy event sometime people just by mortiz shirts at talking dot com. You can actually get. I do have a t shirt that says no far left behind. If you don't wanna walk around you know with a share. This talking about parts podcasts There is one shirt that just says no are left behind I like it. Maybe you will to go check it out. Talking about cars dot com. Check out the merck shop. Brett says the minority with my opinion but wd tries too hard to be cool to each their own You must be talking about whistling diesel. Yeah i mean hey. Don't try to be cool. I to my own detriment. I just be myself and sometimes i make a fool of myself and that's fine I would never try to be cool. I mean i'm not that. I never want people to to come back later on and go look at this asshole. Oops i look at this guy. He's trying to be cool or look at this guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about any pretends he does. I'll be the first to tell you. I am no mo part expert. I'm sure a lot of you guys here. No way more than me. I just like talking about ours. And i know a little bit about a lot. And that's not saying. I know a lot. I just said little about a lot. So and i learn something new every time i do an episode of talking pars high-performance heritage where i do research on a vehicle and there's a lot of stuff there's a lot of information i leave on the table that i don't even talk about just because there's so much you know what i mean So i try to leave a little bit on the table so somebody listens to the show there. Like there's gotta be more information and they can go look it up themselves. You know plus i mean. How long do you wanna hear me talk about the same thing i. I'm pretty good at it. But w just enjoys. Gas lighting haters. Bring it on whistle and diesel. Cause i don't give a shit about you. That's not me being a jerk. That's is true. I don't care about that guy at all hopefully nevarez a tv show with a network. And they're like that talking guy banham. Don't ever let him talk to anybody if you want to come on the show and explain himself and tell me why so cool yeah sure. Come on buddy. But he's not gonna come on dinky little show and he's got millions of followers. You know what i mean. I'll never. I'll never even if this podcast blows the hell up. Okay and discovery comes to me and they're like hey we want you on motor trend. We want to give you show. I still wouldn't be a big shot. I'd still be doing these lives but see the problem is now. I don't know how true this is or of some people trying to big shot me but there's some people that i wanted to get on the show and i was approached him and they basically told me. I don't know how much i can say about this. I better be careful That truly there are not allowed to do things like this podcast. So i feel like the individual who said that to me was big shotting me and that's fine because in reality i just wanna talk to him but if he wants to be an asshole being asshole. I'll remember that. You know what i mean but the people that support me you know when i'm nothing when i when i have eight people watching this on thursday night at almost midnight when nothing if i ever blow up i will never forget. You guys remember that right now. Okay and i probably won't blow up. We'll probably be doing this twenty years from now. Brett says he put challenger on steel wagon. Wheels no thanks peacocking at his finest blah is that the guy like dress like an amish that that film i got i got to be careful what i say but you know what screw it. Hey he's a tool okay you can. You can share this video with him. I'm sure he doesn't care he can. He can try gas lighting me. Fuck that guy. Whoops sorry ice. Sometimes i get out of control see. That's what happens when i go an hour and i'm just winging it you know what i mean. We haven't even played any message yet. anthony says okay. Yeah the dea paxton superchargers. I'm gonna look more into that. Gosh could you imagine what one of those things would go for now insane. Okay kelly. let's talk about your gt forty-five turbo in a three eighteen. What else did you do that. Thing oh logan already asked great minds. Think alike buddy stock bottom and three forty cam in three sixty heads. Logan keeps asking the right questions. Go okay. So logan says stock bought under what kelly says stock bottom three forty camp three sixty heads. Logan says what power numbers have been thinking about doing that to my seventy duster. I'm all for it do it. Roy says three forty have heads have bigger valves than the three sixty weren't they Two point something shed. I should know this kind of stuff not off. The top of my head I thought that the three sixty I thought that the three sixty had the better. It was better all around the only thing that killed. It was the low compression because wasn't like supposed to be the predecessor of the wasn't it supposed to Be better than three forty but Because of the gas stuff that was going on in the early mid seventies and the late seventies it kinda killed three. That's what i thought. I could be wrong though. Because i don't know anything. Says he never dine out it but a buddy geeta with a phone at about five fifty wheel horsepower at sixteen. Psi with the stock bottom end. How long did that lasted. Hey kelly if you develop a small block moped. Turbo body kit. Let me know we'll promote it. Get you on the show. We'll talk about it because that's always said that it pisses me off. Every time i get. Sometimes i get a wild here and i'm like i'm going to turbo par and i go looking up stuff and i'm like. Why is it every time. I look up turbo. Small block par-. Usually i get an ebay ad for some cheap chinese crap whose text marina. I always see the chinese crap on ebay. And i'm like nine hundred bucks for twin turbo kit and no thanks As anybody ever done a review on that actually look that up. Maybe i'll buy one and to see what a piece of shit it says. If you visit wisconsin. There are plenty of hotels nearby. It's a blast event. One of the cars that it's called bad judgment look it up bad ass blower cool man. I'll check that out. You might have to remind me. Ask me next week eight. Did you look up that car. And i'll probably Know anyway. it's called bad judgment moore on. Go look it up anthony. I appreciate it. You know us mo- partnered need to stick together. Okay and i. I love talking to you guys because you got like. I said you guys know a lot more than i do. So i love talking to you. I always learn something. You know what. I mean whistling diesel. Even that names dushi. I mean some people are like the mo- partner that's dushi whistling diesels. Pretty dushi dude. I mean if i could go back. I probably wouldn't to because i want like i've always been on. The my thing is always been and i've studied marketing and advertising and entrepreneurship and business stuff and they always said if somebody reads your name for your business or whatever. They shouldn't even have to look at what you're about like the podcast talking mo- parse okay. If i'm a car enthusiast. And i'm looking at podcast and i see one. That says talking mope bars. I'm not gonna go. Gee i wonder what they're talking about on that. Podcast boom easy for a moment. Suzy's to find k now. Not everybody thinks like that. So i get it but i do so i was like i want it easy to find and i want people to know what about that way i. It automatically the name itself filters people out you know. Maybe a chevy guy listened to it. But i doubt it you know what i mean. I just want my people listening to it. You know but The mow hunter. I was like well. What do i do. Hunt mopeds on craigslist in out and around now. Of course there's way cooler mope hunters than me. You know i gosh. The list is huge of people that go out there and actually hunt. These mope are so when i when i think of the name. The mo- part hunter. I'm like now. It's kind of cringing for me. But i ride with it you know. That's that's what it is. It's the mo part hunter. I you know. We're all our hunters. Let's be realistic. If you've ever gone on craigslist and typed in dodge or with nineteen. You know whatever to whatever and you were looking for more parts of your hunting from bars. That's all there is to it. So we're all moped hunters. I just happen to get the facebook name. I so sorry. I and market guys two. Oh two okay yeah worry. That's what i thought. The valves were too but see now. That's the problem with being in my position. Okay if i sit here. And i say something wrong. I will be roasted like chestnuts on an open fire. You know what i mean. You can't get away with that kind of stuff if you're trying to be on camera like or on a podcast i. I've been roasted before for some stupid stuff. That i've said so i try to be careful and that's why i always say i don't know it all and i don't. I'm not too proud. Somebody's hey you got that wrong okay. Cool i'll correct myself. I have no problems with that. Three thirty one stroke through eighteen. Three forty three fifty eight zero three six. Okay i richard holder. I think that's how you say his name he's cool. I like his channel. he's always doing stuff. And i'm like oh that's cool especially when i got a couple of emmys so i watched a lot of his hemi videos and it really opened my eyes to what they're capable of you know even when you just throw some parts out of now. I wouldn't be as reckless but i think it's fun with What he does. He's one of my favorite youtube channels. I really like watching richard stuff. He pushes easy forty five on a four point. Eight ls seven hundred eighty horsepower. Yeah i don't doubt it. I doubt it. Logan i think we all do. We all look a body mo- parse i sold mine and i thought you know i had one. I never got anywhere with it. I think my next one's going to be anybody or be body and then. I glanced at my checking account. And i got nope i still love. Bodies man They get a bad rap but they're cool hell. That's what i think i actually. I would love to have a duster. I've always thought the reason why. I got dart and why i was so adamant about getting a dog when i did was because my dad had one and i was always obsessed with building the dark. He never had the chance to build because he sold it. You know and then. Eventually i lost interest in it. Go figure you know. But this is my prediction will probably end up with another dr. Someday god would kept the one that i sold but It is what it is. I think anybody. Logan i think anybody. That has a moped. Has their hands full dude. Let's be honest. Kelly says sixty seven barracuda fastback. Sweet one of my favorite anybody's four-speed sweet. I'm building a three hundred zero bucks. Speedmaster aluminum heads to a two one. Sixty valves to eighty degree five thirty one twelve cam. Holly super-sniper i or as four seventy five inch I want to ask you something. Kelly about the Holly sniper efi. I've been looking at efi for the truck. Because i really liked driveability. And i always thought that if i did put the hemi in it i wanted to get the aluminum intake manifold and put a holly sniper. Efi on it that way. I could run an old school air cleaner How do you like the. Do you have it running yet or no. Because i'm curious what people think about the. I haven't really talked to too many people about the holly sniper and i'm really curious about it because i've heard good and bad i've also the speedmaster heads. I i'm curious about those two. Because i've heard both good and bad things about him. I heard you really that you can buy them because they're good in their Affordable but you really want to check them out really closely when you get them so Because i was looking at them. But i'm like gosh. I don't know but that's just me. I would like to know if anybody has any experience with a holly snoop snoop holly a sniper af is or speedmaster aluminum heads. I love to Get more information about him. Because i am very interested in the f. i just for driveability you know what i mean. 'cause more so than going to car shows and stuff. I hope that my insurance company isn't listening to this. I enjoy driving my truck to work. And when i get up in the morning. It's you know the ass crack. Don who so it's like you know four five am and i got a warm the thing up and it's sometimes it's hard to start and i know my neighbors hated not that i care that much but It would be nice to be able to fire it up and have it start on the first try. You know what i mean. Anthony says not to sell plug. This should be good every time somebody says that. No i'm just kidding. Billy not to sell blood but if you guys like Collini cars in general check on my youtube channel. Here's a link moped review. I review my nineteen sixty. Five plymouth. barracuda is out anthony. is that what. You're youtube channel called moped review. I'm gonna write that down so i can follow you. Did i have a youtube channel guys. But i haven't put anything on it yet. Because i've been trying to figure out how i can go about putting previous episodes of my podcast on it and make it interesting but i decided just to load up all those episodes and then i'm going to go through and clip them For fun stuff and Go from there. And then obviously i'm going to have ton video content with this van and stuff so that'll be pretty fun I'm writing down mo par review anthony. So for those of you. Listening through the podcast. I think anthony's youtube is called mope review but it says mopey review. I review my nineteen sixty five plymouth barracuda so go check it out. Subscribe and like his videos. Same with all my other friends. You can plug here all you want. Do if any of you guys have businesses or you want to plug something. Maybe you've gotta part for sale feel free. I don't mind. Kelly says my youtube channel is kelly's my garage go follow like subscribe. Whatever you do on youtube go watch. Kelly's videos still mocking up. Okay let me know. Kelly let me know when you get all that stuff going. I wanna hear what you think about all of it. Because i've seen the speedmaster heads and they look good you know but i'm also not a machinist and also didn't have any you know i didn't have a mic or anything to check stuff out i have any calibers so it like i don't wanna look adams looking at a nice shiny set of heads you know what i mean. I think they were bear to i. Don't think god it's been a while now. But the i mean they looked good. That's all i can say about him. I don't have any other experience other than that. Logan says the sniper system is pretty good. But if you're a new try to tune it yourself. It could be a nightmare. I thought they were self tuning. Kelly says i've tuned holly h. P. kelly's electric fuel pump automotive regulator bypass style. Return to tank. Fix all our problems. Start up and driveability. Okay you know the the problem is like with my truck. It's got a eto brock to on it. And i don't know what the guy did but i don't know if i talked about this on the pocket so i didn't do the natural way you check for sure grip. If you have the truck in the air. When i did the tires i was like i want. I wanna be surprised. When i finally i think it was the next day after. I got the torque thrusts on it. And i took it out I just so happened to be on the road by my house. That either has traffic or dozen. I got onto it. When it didn't have traffic's drop the sucker in first gear and let her rip and fell right on its face and almost died. Then i popped it in second year and it came back alive. So it does fall on its face I think it might be getting too much fuel. Sounds really rich. And i have. It does not have an aftermarket intake. It's got factory. Four barrel manifold on it so i haven't attleboro three eighteen three sixty. I've heard good and bad things about him. But i got it for super cheap so i'm going to throw that on there and then i'm going to tune the carb so right now mr norm down in the garage I think i got a delivery for the gaskets and stuff. I needed And then my buddy. I don't know if you follow me on social media on instagram. Or whatever but there is a picture i posted of a colony. Remember now god. It's getting late of a satellite or a roadrunner could have been a roadrunner clone but it was the body style. And i pull over the side of the road so we could check the straps on the drag car that he just bought. He bought a little Sixty four amc rambler american hand. It's got the cool twin stick. I don't know how much you guys know. I didn't know i'm looking in the car. Got what looked to be. Excuse me automatic shifter's but it's got a clutch pedal and i didn't know anything about that setup. I told my buddy. I was like you know the clutch pedal in it and we were surprised but So what was i going with that story. God i just lost my train of thought i guess will move on. That's what happens when i don't get very much sleep. Damnit not it's gonna piss me off. I forgot what i was talking about. Where was i going with that. He's unbelievable and he says. My youtube channel is actually tales from the junkyard. Sorry for the confusion okay. Tales from the trump card. No worries buddy. Right that quick and might be a few days before i subscribe to you. That's not because i'm a jerk. That's because i i right. I mean i have notes everywhere. And i look at them like once a month. I promise you. I will subscribe tells from junkyard. Cooman what do you guys think about All the channels that go into wrecking yards and get these vehicles running after. They've been sitting for a long time. You know you've got dylan cool. Junkyard digs I don't know anthony. Do you do that kind of stuff. I think it's really cool. I think it's fun. I love watching them. It's really fun. Oh i remembered. So when i hold so stupid when i when i hold my buddies. Amc because he. He sold his truck. So i m hall at home and for helping him. He gave me an ms de distributor. One of those billet really nice distributors. So i'm going to upgrade the rest of the ignition system in the mr norm truck. So there's a couple of modifications. I want to do before i really dig into the carbon. Get it running good. But i thought i could just to get an f. I set up. Because if i was going to do the old school four barrel intake on the new hemi that i could just throw this apron it because i'm pretty sure they're they're the can be used like that because if it's going from four barely able to afford barrel intake manifold should be good right so that's that was my train of thought with that but I don't know. I'm kind of running out of money buying van and i have a problem. When have money. I was blowing. Are anthony Everybody follow likened. Subscribe to anthony's youtube channel all right tales from the junkyard. Logan says another. Good youtube channel uncle tony's garage and also three eighteen will run love eighteen. Run here's a story about uncle tony's garage if you've ever listened to his podcast yes uncle. Tony had a podcast. Very short lived. I was disappointed that it ended. But before i listened to his podcast. I had thought about doing a mo- podcast and i had three names. The first one was talking mo- parse the second one was the hustle stuff podcast and the third one was direct connections and like i said earlier. I wanted people to see the podcast and go. Oh he talks about mo- parse if it was direct connections like what does he intellectual something and then the hustle stuff podcast is like. What is he talking about selling drugs or what. You know what i mean so i was like all right. Let's go talking about parts. And then i discover. 'cause i start doing research to see if there are other mo- podcasts and i run across uncle tony's and i'm like oh man 'cause i knew his youtube channel and i was a fan. You know. I shouldn't say that wasn't a fan because i didn't i. I didn't follow all his stuff but i had run across the first obviously the viral video that got him famous one where he's like. Here's everything you need to know about carver. And he chucks it. That was the first video i saw and i was like. Oh this guy's funny and he's got a cigarette like burned all the way to the s. I mean i was like. Oh this guy's great So yeah. I started watching Some of his youtube stuff. And then i found the podcast is looking to see if there are other podcasts and so i start binge listening to him because at this point i'm like i think a podcast would work and i don't know if there are any moped podcasts. And i start listening to it. He's talking about dave ray from graveyard cars and how he wants to do a show with dave ray and call it talking mo- part and i was like we're talking mo- pars mo- par but i was like son of a. I was so mad. I was like damn it. Finally i think i have a good idea. You know what i mean. Because i'm like the moped hundred pages like okay. you know. it's cool. But i wanted a fun. I have more fun talking to people. And i was like i. I kinda wanna try podcast. 'cause i've been listening to him for a long time and i just didn't i. I'm a moped guy. So i wanted to hear as much stuff as possible and eventually i've listened to them all and then i find uncle tony's and then he says that in my my soul was crushed so like all right if somebody's already doing if uncle tony's doing a podcast then there's no point in competing with someone like that. You know what i mean so you know which was wrong wrong way to think. There's never enough mobile podcasts. In fact if any of you guys wanna start a podcast. Let me know. And i'll tell you how it's gonna cost you but i'll tell you i'm just kidding so. I listened to his podcasts and he quit uncle. Tony suffered from pod fade. Where if you don't see results you give up uncle tony. I like the guy. He gave up on the podcasts. I was disappointed. I was bummed. But then i thought well if you give up on the podcast and you're doing anymore. I guess that means that talking mopeds isn't going to be real for you so i thought you know what i'm not. I don't feel ashamed. That i thought of the name and then i heard it from uncle. Tony and i knew i would get criticized for it. I knew people would be like. Oh well tony said. I are well. Here's what happened because respectful guy. I reached out to uncle. Tony's uncle tony. I'm a fan. I like watching your stuff. I don't know if i said i'm a fan. Probably i said. I like watching your stuff and basically i said. Here's the thing. I have an idea. I wanna do a podcast. I want to talk about is that okay. I don't wanna step on your toes is basically what i said. I could dig up the message somewhere. Because i still have it and i kept it in case this ever comes back to bite me and he tries to do the podcast and say i came up with that and well you gave me the blessing. Because he did. He said hey. Podcasts done The ideas dead in the water feel free to use it. He was really nice about it. And i think uncle tony and You know i. I have nothing bad to say about uncle tony. I think he's a cool guy. Think he's fun. I think he's funny He's been getting a lot of criticism lately. And i don't understand i. There was a video from youtube guy that just went off on him. Because i guess there was some drama about the bottle rocket. Or whatever and i. I i don't wanna get into it but that's none of my business but I don't have a problem with uncle. Tony i think what he's doing as good as far as you know telling people. Hey you know these cars on tv and stuff just go get go. Get a radikal and have fun. You know what i mean. you don't have to. I just like his grassroots way of looking at things you know on youtube come on. Let's be realistic. Not everybody knows everything. There's not one guy that's like the end. All be all when i look at youtube videos on certain subjects. I try to watch more than one. So if you sit there and you put people Tony and again. This isn't me talking shit. If you sit there and put people like uncle tony pedestal. then You know you're putting too much faith in one person you know what i mean. I hope if i talk about mo- pars on like a high-performance heritage episode like saying earlier that you listen to and you go. Oh i wanna learn more about that and you go out and learn more about that. Because i'm not the end all be all at for information got it got if anybody ever said that's me like man you're so smart. I would have to shut down real quick. It'd be like look. I just like talking about this stuff. Because it's fun. And i love most parts and i'm an enthusiast just like you i do like okay Logan i do like three. Eighteen will run. He's got vans and stuff to very cool. He's the reason why about an l. brock Attleboro I bought a summit camp It was the six nine zero. One i think just because i kept watching youtube videos of these guys with this cheap camp and it sounded good and then i buy it and then i ran across the hughes whiplash cam because i'd never really paid too much attention to it and it turns out it sounds bad ass anyways here. We go off the rails. Yeah as far as If i units kelly says are you holly guy kelly. What yep. I need to start reading ahead usually use a holly four seven seven four seven seven seven six fifty double pumper or four seven seven nine seven. Fifty double pumper with wpro farm center section jetted seventy six eighty six point five fifty Yeah gosh it's tough. Because i also don't want to invest too much money. I'm gonna go hemi. You know what i mean. So i don't know where i'm at right now but It sounds like you know what you're talking about much more than myself. So i don't know this is one of those situations where i'll probably get some money. I'll probably go on something like this. And like what do you guys think. And to see what you guys think. Logan says i have an ams a sixty five. Amc rambler classic. Wagging i sold get my. That's cool was a story on that car. Logan you're talking about your out of arcadia cart being crap. I don't think. I don't think it's the carbs fault. I think it might be the guy who put it on. Because i don't know how tuned you know what i mean The way i. When i realized it was having issues all i did was i turned The screws down until the idol got rough and then i smooth them out and then went like a half turn farther On the mixture adjustments and it felt like it was running better. And then i drove it around for a little bit and that was when i did that. Live from the car show. I drove it out there and it was handling finding actually felt like it was a little snappy and had more power and i was like all right. This is great. I i think. I did something good but i don't have a vacuum gauge. So that was one of the reasons why i was out and about because i was going to get a vacuum gauge. And do it right. Once i got the intake on and The new ignition setup so God what was it the next day. I think it was he was that same day. I forget anyways. So i go back out with the truck and i pull out my driveway and thing dies on me and i'm like the so Weird so i started back up. Starts up fine. So i'm like okay. I start driving down the street. Give it a little throttle and mike. Okay it's good. And then i get to the stop sign and dies again and i was in a hurry to go somewhere i forget and i was like i need to look at this more. I need to hook it up to the vacuum gauge. Figure this thing out and see where it's at so i pulled it in the garage. It's been in there since Because i've been trying to get ready for this van that i was supposed to buy because i. I don't know if you guys seen my garage. There's no room in there. So i gotta move a bunch of stuff around and now that i'm doing this podcast so late i can't. I don't have time to do it tonight so tomorrow tomorrow night. I might do alive from my garage. I gotta go in there and organize some stuff but you know. I don't have anything against iraq. I guess I'm gonna try to tune in and see if it gets better kelly. Do you have better things to do with your time. Then tune eto brock raider or watch youtube videos or are you talking about the podcast. Now are you like. I got better things to do with my time to watch this yet. No hard feelings buddy. Anthony says i like vice grip garage. He does a lot of that junkyard. Startups run stuff. That kind of stuff entertained by that It really opened my eyes when you see people pull cars and trucks out of fields and stuff. That hasn't been running in several several maybe even decades right and running. I think that's cool. Anthony says my name is a play on words tales as in the fish tale in honor of my barracuda very cool. I like that and the junkyard comes from the fact that everything i put together uses parts. I find in the junk yard. That i can repurpose notes left behind. I like it anthony. That's cool man. Like that. Kelly bryan have you checked out alexandersson. The gas tap youtube channel. No i have not. I'll write that down to. I'm actually writing anthony's name. Next to his youtube channel that way i know anthony underscore underscore for that will remind me. Alex sanderson the gas tap youtube channel. Sorry free podcast listeners. I don't know. I'm probably gonna post this a podcast episode two and sometimes i wonder like these aren't structured. When i go live it's not structured. I prefer to go off the cuff. Especially if i have people in the. I think that's fun. So that's what we're doing if you're listening You can if you're listening to this right now and you're like gosh. This is kind of boring to listen to. I hope it's not. I hope you're getting entertained. Somehow your working on your car needs some background noise here. I am You can always jump over the facebook page and find the video for episode seventy seven and you can watch it if you want. I mean all you're gonna see my ugly mug but you know hey y'all check out alexandersson. The gas tap youtube channel. Kelly says sixty nine value three sixty magnum. Gt forty five seven twenty seven eight point eight deaf. I like an explorer. Something i thought about doing the eight point. Eight my darpa. I'm one of those jerks. I wanna chemo part. Because i don't want to deal with that kind of criticism. You know what i mean but i was also cheap and at one time i did have an eight eight and three quarter and i got cocky because i bought a fifty dollar dana. Sixty at of some god. What was it out of a afford one ton or some shit. And i was like i just need the housing. I bought it for fifty bucks. And i was like. Don't need the eight and three quarter body housing anymore. Stupid me god. I'm so mad at myself for that Yeah i'll have to check that out. turboprops are cool. I'll say that anthony says he's subscribed to the gas tap youtube channel. I think that's who you're talking about it. Let's go check it out. Logan talking about his. Amc wasn't an american classic wagon. Sorry a rambler. Classic wagon okay I should pay more attention or at least get more sleep before i do. These things logan says bought the car from a good friend of mine for twelve hundred bucks. Good deal had rest everywhere on. It and the floors had holes the size of golf. Maybe not good deal. What was all original through the tree and very low miles. How many miles. I would have to come on the podcast. Actually tell the whole story in detail. Hey anytime dude. If i'm ever life. I'm gonna i'm gonna say this if i'm live and you have a webcam a phone and headphones or earbuds you can come on the show and you know if you're not shy. I'm shy hell. And here i am. You know what i mean be. I'd love to hear the story. Did kelly says my setup was like his six years ago. It's way better now. Or what sounds like it. Even logan gassed happens in other Okay gosh wreck says. Good morning chris. Good morning rick. Kay says search turbo value on youtube australian valley with a stroke through eighteen bore as four eighty runs meds mid-nineties. Holy shit. that sounds cool. I gotta write that down to turbo valiant you too thirteen thousand miles on it Wow that's insane dude. Logan had thirteen thousand miles on that. Amc that he had. That's crazy. anthony. Thanks for joining me buddy Feel free to jump on another time. We'll check you out here. And they are verified miles to maintenance records and everything that's cool man. Wow thirteen thousand miles. That's crazy denied anthony. Ucf next time but he Yeah that's nuts dude. Guy's to be late where you're at dude. Are you on the east coast. Time or mountain time on west coast time and it's already midnight and we've been going for an hour and a half. So here's what i'm gonna do. We're gonna get ready to shut down. Guys i'm gonna play so tad our friend tad who still holds the record. And he's he's leading the pack and he's like he's he's laughing everybody now. He's got so many messages to me Which is fine. I i love. I don't mind at all I think it's funny but he's let's see how many tad if you're listening to this. Buddy keep them coming. I think it's hilarious So tad's got one two three four five. He sent me six messages. Between the twelfth of march and thursday yesterday are today. day today. 'cause it's friday now Say that for the next episode. Let's play this one. I haven't listened to any of these either so we'll play this to two minutes and twenty seconds. This is mike. It's mike from mike smo- park garage on youtube. So check out. Mike's moped garage. That's here. Mike has to say jesus chris amount of my smoker garard youtube I wanted to most of us have never had an opportunity to buy one of the marquee cars super daytonas hemi kudos all that kinda stuff because of the fact that they're just so expensive and Just most of his There's no way we can afford those. But i sure story of the one that got away that i was so close to getting that to this day. Thirty five years later still hurts so in one thousand nine hundred eighty six eighty seven time frame. I was in. Us air force stationed in illinois. I used to go over to indianapolis to the hoosier. National car show that was held in the infield. Then five hundred track to go there all the time looking to car so this timeframe eighty six eighty seven. I had been working part time for years and save the proxy three thousand dollars to buy a car and so i went over there that time to look in the car crown so three thousand dollars. I really nice to use moat far back then so i was looking for a really nice car and walk into the crowd. And what did i see. Seventy alpine burn. Look at it and it was only of course it cuts out when he tells us what kind of card is damn it. Let's see it could have very well. Been my service. let's try this again. Car and walking through the seventy alpine look at it and it was only five thousand dollars. I couldn't believe it The guys over there. So i grow. It was rough but he was there and it was all complete and it was a super vibrant. I am nine hundred. Seventy alpine white. Super bird is what i'm gathering from. That that's awesome three thousand dollars ahead with me. And he turned it down. He was Pretty firm on the five grand so throughout the day i came back and forth struggle trying to get him to come down to three grand and he would not budge the gravel quarters because or just well before cellphone days. Grab a roll of quarters and called my father who was awesome your force in vegas bag for him to send me two thousand dollars and He just couldn't afforded swaying so at the end of the day. I had to walk away knowing that. I could not is superfood and i was only two thousand dollars away for vail to get it and That was thirty five years ago and it still hurts today It all worked out a long run. I got an really nice Sixty eight charger. R t by the on that one got away in a church Enjoy your podcast. Look forward to hearing any more episodes than Thinks what i'm good. Thanks for sending in your message mike. Yeah that's a tough one dude. Gosh you have three thousand dollars and the guy wants five for seventy alpine white super bird. God that's what i'm going. Okay a couple things are going to happen here. I'm gonna take this three grand. And i'm going to go to the nearest casino and i'm going to play some blackjack and we're gonna let it ride. You know what i mean. We're gonna see if we make this happen. Or i hope i don't offend anybody by when i say this i would have to find. I probably shouldn't say that never mind. I won't say that would have been bad. Yeah that's one of those things you know. You make those phone calls. He ask anybody you can hope to. God somebody man. That's tough question is what are you willing to do that. Extra two grand. You know what. I mean for a super bird if i have three thousand dollars in my pocket and i need two thousand via super. I'd be willing to do some. You know i wouldn't rob anybody but Yeah that's tough. i. I probably go to the casino. Pretty good at gambling. Sometimes i wouldn't take any of the free drinks. But i probably try my hand and maybe some no limit holdem. I could probably do something. They're a blackjack. That's a risk but one hand of god. You almost wanna try one hands like well. That's a tough one man. I don't even know what i do. What am i talking about. I don't know it's late. But i liked the fact that you know you. I like the fact that in the end you still have a sixty. Hr t dude. You know what. I mean if the one that you got a that got away from us seventy super bird but you still have a sixty eight charger rt. I it's a cool story. I don't feel bad for you. I'm just kidding there. Thank you mike for sending in your message and thank you all for joining me god to. Am where you guys are at logan kelly. Thank you for joining me. Anthony if you listen to again thank you. Kelly says alaska seventy charger s e three eighty three four barrel triple green for twenty five hundred nineteen ninety-six damn. I think i was in middle school. God i can't believe they're that cheap then i don't remember i've been reading auto traders for a long time and i don't ever remember mo- parts being that cheap. Maybe it's just because when i was that young. That kind of money was still expensive than me. I don't know But now looking back. I i kind of want to strangle my father and go. Hey if this was all that cheap. Why didn't you buy any. Kelly says i needed two weeks to get my money out of the stock market and the chargers sold the next day. Oh shit dude man hurts. I'm sorry man damn yeah. That's tough dude i. i don't have those struggles. I buy cheap shit. Because that's lord. The mr norm truck was the most expensive vehicle i've ever bought cash and have ever owned outright. I'll admit that. Rick says i picked up a sixty eight charger three eighty three three years ago for seventeen grand. Damn that's a deal. I mean what kind of shape was it in. Dude cause a. I'm sure you follow the moped. Hundred man. I cannot find a decent charger a decent second generation charger for under twenty grant. I really can't The ones that i see for twenty grand are rob boxes. I don't understand it. I mean i do understand. It just bothers me because it's one of those dreams that i may not ever see country for russian. Kelly says mr sixty three eighty three two barrel charger for twenty five hundred dollars ten blocks from my house. Damn okay. let's be honest guys. Johnny moped is listening to this. Probably looking out his window at the thirty charges he hasn't. He's like twenty five hundred. I paid that for all of those together. Johnny mo pars one of those. I love that guy man. He's got so many cool cars and he got such a damn good deal on all of them. So johnny mo par. You're the man and for all of you listening. Go checkout janis youtube channel. He's doing some really cool stuff with a sixty right now and i'll leave it at that. You can figure that out on your own co follow. Like and subscribe to johnny moped and youtube. Rick says i wish i could post a pic on here Gosh i don't know how you would be able to share that Yeah i i would have to look into that. If there's a website or something that i can jump on. I could share the screen. But i don't know how i would Yeah i share videos. I can share screens. But i have to have them on my computer. If you emailed the picture to me. Chris talking mo- parse dot com. It probably won't work now. 'cause i gotta go to bed. I gotta get up in three hours. But rick i do wanna see. I wanna see the car. So the next time i do alive Email me early on in the show and Let me know that you. Email me. Chris at Dot com and. I'll show it on the next show. You could actually email me the picture right now and Let me know and we'll get it shared on the next show the next time i do alive fifty thousand. Yeah if f-. I wouldn't be in the market for a be body unless i had twenty five to thirty god twenty five. You know on up you know. I've seen a couple decent driver quality cars for like twenty five thousand but they're really not. There's yawn they're really not Twenty five thousand dollar cars. You know what i mean. But that's just my opinion long says that's like everybody's in wisconsin are. They really starting to skyrocket out there. I noticed that they're starting to skyrocket. Here there's a guy. I hope he doesn't listen to this because i'm not trying to be insulting. He had a sixty nine. Dr and it was the same time. I'll selling mine. And his was like minimum. I remember it being ten grand. Okay i almost said their team. But i don't quote me on that And it was a shell stripped. I think it was Any poxy and some of the some of the panels hadn't even been welded in yet and he wanted ten grand and i was like okay. I should have no problem selling mind for thirty five hundred. And i didn't i got blown up but I've slowly watched that cargo down in price from ten thousand dollars for a six nine dodge dart right completely torn apart too. I think the last time. I saw it was like thirty. Five hundred twenty five hundred at for split seconds. Maybe i'll buy the dark Kelly says fifty thousand. You can still choose your color kelly. Hi thanks for joining me buddy. We'll see you next time. I'm getting ready to sign off. Your logan says anymo- pars in the midwest are crazy presley. Mo- crazy everywhere dude. And on that note. Thank you all for joining me once again for this late night edition thursday night friday. Morning show talking. Mo- pars kelly says one more time hold on. We're not leaving yet. What is say. This is the last one guys. I have my own sixty seven barracuda listed for sale. It'll be thirty thousand when i finish it. Cooman let me know. I'll posted on the later. Logan thank you thank you all this is it. Thank you all for joining me tonight. On thursday night friday morning. I don't know what i'm doing. We're just having fun here. We've gone for almost two hours once again. Thank you all for joining me. Thank you for the the ice in the hearts and all that good stuff For everything you need to know about the podcast please visit talking. Mo- parts dot com. Don't forget about my friends. Blake from diy. Hemi dot com johnny moped. You can find him on. Youtube matt monro from big blocks garage the mad from monroe on big box garage podcast. I just slung water all over my webcam. Great that's tired am And of course my friend chuck over at hemi pages. Dot com and ready chassis That's it until we talk again. I'm your host. Chris albrecht and that was talking mobile. Nomo par left behind. Audio's there you have it my friends another episode of talking mo- pars is in the books. Thank you for joining me on this live episode and say live now but this is this is recorded after the fact. So thanks for joining me today on this episode. And you know when i go live in may say some things that could be considered regrettable but hey it's in the moment and i said what i said so i'll own it. I hope i didn't offend anybody. And i hope you had a good time. You know i. I'm still getting used to going. Live and just going off the cuff. It's nothing i've ever done before you know. I've never done any type of improvisational work or anything like that. So as soon as i started going live with these things That was the first the first shot at it. So i'm still getting used to this and i think they're going to get better in time and by better. I have a great time talking to people. You know what i mean but These aren't planned. I don't i just go on there and wing it so for me. It's a lot of fun. And i can't believe people join me in the middle of the night. You know what i mean. But i'm thankful for everybody that joins me. I'm thankful for all of you listening. And just know that. If i'm on here talking mo- parse with you. 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