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Ep. 13.5 | Wake Up Bloopers

The Tantalus Tales

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Ep. 13.5 | Wake Up Bloopers

"Hey everyone it's tailor your d._m. Law master. I just wanted to talk a bit about this little bonus episode prior to letting dig into it when we record the tantalus tales else i try really hard to leave most of the goofs in the final product for you however with the content episode thirteen i delete some of them on the cutting room floor to keep with the tone. I hope you enjoy this bonus. Goof slash blooper reel of some of the cut goofs from episode thirteen. It should go without saying that there are spoilers for episode thirteen though so if you haven't already enjoyed episode thirteen maybe go and catch up and then come back but any who enjoy our bloopers there's and cut goofs from episode thirteen. We'll see you on the fourteenth of august for oddly enough episode fourteen <music> upon returning to the zavos estate though you <hes> came upon conton standing standing above a dead zavos claiming to have killed him to give the miners my fucking god i forget it is going to unplug the fucking phone. You shouldn't play your phone might be a good idea kind of recording holy shit. There's a knock on your door in in walks a priestly looking man holding a tray with hot cinnamon loaf and in strips of still sizzling bacon. The priest hurts drip walks up to you. The priests does not start stripping. Is that what you said. Get out of my head. Sorry the priest raced hurries from your quarters and as you look around the room things begin to fade the candle light. He's opt to traffic court. All the signs uh-huh stop signs us today yeah now. It's the <hes> trading the ever changing bizarre the plaza of indeterminate czar. That's what it was called. Thank you thank you her so you car but bizarre. It's the car bizarre car is bizarre because macabre czar back. The cars are cars are yes. I know aw there several bird calls heard in the trees singing a cacophony of of tunes. I certainly hope not <music> bird going. The car is everywhere. <hes> it's a fire. No doubt about did you break. You've getting real hot. Blaze plays that much. She's she's hurt way she holding her arm or was it like cut off and she's holding it separate from her body like it got burnt so it's not off her body. She's just like when you get a cut on your arm or something you old and got what kind of fairy tale ending this. Nobody's happy ending say. I did not promise promise any happy endings. Yes one of the time drink one of the tavern keepers steps out and says what's the matter with oh you drink. Banos just killed my daughter. God damn damn it. You can't expect me to know on. I know we're just gonna ignore. It was oh god dammit. I wait sorry. I had to wipe my own is. I didn't write that part. Kaleen did aw colleen so it made me cry. Holy shit and you search for the bottom bottom of the cup. This is how alcohol is starts and this is how alcoholism awesome continuous fantastic and that is the the ended ended that episode i pictured tease hardly happy most of the time actually true true especially when he's trying to spreads like have you guys seen that that newer grinch movie like the animated one. No i have no when he's like shoveling spaghetti smell and he's got this thousand yards like that's kind of like i'm not really. They're just like the look on my face mountain of depression depression yeah ah god that's a good one. I like that one <hes> and that's good. I'll probably use that next time. Well had lunch depression present. It was great well. Oh god that is oh my god. He's eating like a big cake to disguise whole face buried in it. God <hes> well. I hope you guys enjoyed that. No i'm crying yeah. Occurs is saddle the time on your the tragic character comes with the territory hutton they have. I'm the dark lord oh so everything everything hurts when they get up in the morning. I cry because everything crafts darkness. Oh wait. That's my hood sorry yeah. I wish i could take credit choke. I can't as adema more craft. Hey taylor again. I hope you enjoyed those cut. Goofs like i mentioned our next episode is coming out on the fourteenth of august and we're also looking for questions from you to due for r. I q. and a. episode. So if you have any story or character questions that you want me or one of our heroes dancer shoot us an email at the tantalus tales sales at g mail dot com or get ahold of us on twitter or facebook. We'd love to hear from you and you'll even get a shot in the episode before i go. I do wanna think what's good for the use of their song intro. Go check them out on soundcloud and i also want to send another. Thank you to our patriot supporters. If you wanna help us in that way we would be very appreciative. Thank you all for listening and we'll see on the fourteenth.

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Middlekauff  3 & Out  Chris Ballard crushing scouting; College/NFL QB projections; NFC North O/U's

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Middlekauff 3 & Out Chris Ballard crushing scouting; College/NFL QB projections; NFC North O/U's

"I'm dana schwartz and i'm the host of noble blood new history podcast from i heart radio in aaron making that focuses on the stories some of history's most fascinating role in the murder the murderers and everyone in between the world is full of illfated love affairs bad decision family drama when you're wearing the crown mistakes and demean london listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts and what is going on my people everyone across this great nation hope you had a good fourth of july ran out podcast john middle cop texas blow it up i plan on doing this lot earlier today it's about seven o'clock on a monday night but you know i'm i'm a little staycationing so i just kind of put it off and then i started watching the home run derby jock peterson an vlad guerrero junior just going at it jock peterson actually highschool teammate an was also i think a high school wide receiver his teammate with davante ast green bay packer star wide receiver palo alto high school are also the high school jim harbaugh a lot of people have a jack petersen could have been a football player but he hits bombs doesn't hit forever but he hits bombs you know this is a were in the doldrums right now everyone in the nfl texan a couple of buddies there in the middle of vacations spread out all over the world france a nantucket i dunno bella check but if i did he didn't fall window on instagram the grand there is all over kicking it hanging out we've got a couple of weeks left in football's about start i tweeted out a little earlier i was at the gym this this afternoon we are i mean i pay so much got their money from the gym better be nice but a this bit we've got a big flat screen tv in some chairs regan chill in the gym locker room the men's locker room i know what the women's locker mass not that i should or care but in the locker room there's big tv it's always you know got a basketball game on football game on whatever whatever season it's on gulf you know world cup you name it something always on going on now if you go really early in the morning sometimes like news on but for the most part is always you know a game today you know early july eighth i walked by and there's like three dudes almost six one of the hype it up but it was legitimate three guys just watching these television which was the green bay packers against see pittsburgh steelers from two thousand nine am they were pretty locked in on my god people were getting i'm getting rich and i got a little bit this morning read about chris ballard he wrote the m qb i don't think it's called that anymore but whatever peter king calls his his article a i got something that i took away from that but i but i think that you know more people in the nfl canoes a some thoughts on just a little bit of a quarterback roundtable a some mvp he bats a albert breer wrote an article and just some of the young college quarterbacks aunt just some initial takes on those guys before we head into the season and then today will do the nfc north over unders bears vikings green bay detroit but i i wanna start with this ain't also amount of middlekauff mailbag questions so you gotta slide up in my dm's fill those bad boys up at john middle cop is my instagram handle in you could ask whatever you want and lance room starting friday again i just don't have any questions you guys been parties you are a for july fourth i get it but i need you to come back in a film in little content you guys always asking questions and that time i i need you so i'm calling the people but i wanna start with this chris ballard who i you know common obviously knows really well i know a bunch of people i know matt maggie became really really good friends with him when he was a with the kansas city coterie loves them everyone seems the love chris ballard have been around i dunno middle i've i've never met a but it's pretty clear he's pretty special you know like he's got he's kinda got it in he wrote this article i highly recommend you go peter king's twitter account and you can click it i don't even know a website peter king right for came keep up with all the movement but he wrote the article from peter and it was really good any kind of got indepth as as much as they could without revealing some secrets end if you watched his you too serious the one thing that you saw but he does they really good job of in clearly the top personnel departments do this is he will live on his scalp like they go into a meeting in it's an open for you could say whatever you want if you put in the work and you have conviction and you believe something you get on the table and you fight for the player but the thing is i would imagine they don't have that much disconnect in the room because one thing that he wrote about was how they have the greenbrier ray it helps them like get around a lot of the fluff in the bs when i when i was in philly we use the wall is the term that we used to call a not a fraud i think of a term it's just it's just scaping my mind right now it's a column con so like if if you walk into the con con man if you walked into the meeting in a suit or when we brought you in the top thirty this if you've been arrested a couple of times just dumb stupid shit and you had like a three piece suit you were just a con man like just football you could wear just normal calls were just having a normal conversation we gotta get to the bottom of it there'll be a con man and i think the one thing that clearly indie does very very well they know exactly what they were looking for in i think that's all we separated new england because their gm has been their head coach so it's been a streamlined process an i think seattle mayor they obviously were on the same page and have been for years a philly with joe douglas and how we and what they've done the last two or three years with doug peterson all on the same page andy with dorsey and now with the beach completely on the same page and i think what you're seeing chris ballard do in a short period of time it's not just him and like you set in this article yeah i'm ultimate decision maker but i ask everyone for their opinion in when you have when you have a scouting department that is all locked in in all looking for the same thing in the sense of not that it's like a group banking world trying to find like get a consensus on something we're you all know exactly what you want at every position in what type is much as you are scouting the player he had a great line in this he said the talent of a player and he learned defending from jerry jerry angelo he said worked for forever chicago a the town of a player determines his ceiling but his football character meaning a hearty works how much he cares about the game you know just his driver stopped this all that stuff determinants his for an when you become a good team and i was thinking about this today when you become a good team you start drafting anywhere near the top ten i mean the patriots always draft like twenty eight to thirty two like the chiefs for the last since he's been there all we drafted in the twenties the colts now the balance got this thing and they got a coach always gonna draft in the twenties seattle is always draft in the twenties you their their tour after being taken the twenties you can go home run derby and try hit a home run and there's usually a reason that guy is there it'd be quote unquote has top ten town buddy felder you're twenty four or you can try to hit a little bit you're just knowing you're gonna hit a double because the one thing when you take a swing and you miss it's pretty devastating when you're a good team could you are depending on these players be good like chris ballard show last year he was just trying to hit doubles now when you get really high football character guys and people that care a guy can kind over a cheap so a double could turn into a triple dareus winter obviously last year quitting nelson was a home run type swing because you're drafting number six but when you start nailing people in the late first round in the second round i mean you know what you're doing into me this guy just have this humility to have this kind of toughness aspect to him have this you don't have any value waiter he's not really looking to be the sexiest guy in the room you know some people love the super fast guys the super good looking guys when they get off the bus like he just wants football players and i think the one thing and bill polian is a hall of fame executive but she had some time would take some big swings late in the twenties in unless you got peyton manning they'll just his philosophy in a bone them a couple of times like so far with chris ballard he's kind of telling you like when i'm driving a twenty four twenty eight twenty seven were looking to just get solid players and we know we have a league players and we're gonna have to get a league players other way but you're you're not gonna get more than likely a hall of famer a twenty eight but if you get an eight year store you're in pretty good shape tape i i've seen countless i i saw bulky do it multiple times once that team got good he couldn't hit on a player in the late twenties and eventually caught up to him and crippled the team but i the one thing the colts have going for them is this scouting department am this mindset in this collective effort as a group being led by this guy i i'm always like again i i'm a sucker for the article now granted hiroki article but everything i've heard about this guy everything seen his team do how well he handled last year josh mcdaniels leaving about you alter the get frank right i mean that was not an easy situation and it looks like you gotta hit a home run on that hire a who knows maybe he's better off with that higher than is would have been with josh mcdaniels now don't get me wrong i thought josh mcdaniels was the right guy for him the higher who would've known that he would have backed out last minute you know and that might be in all time mistake for josh mcdaniels but i'll tell you this fall the colts fans listening i'm buying what he's doing states episode is brought to you by the i heart radio music festival you've heard about it every september we invite a select group of the biggest artists in the world to vegas to play one stage over two nights not just a concert it's a once in a lifetime gathering the most howard and superstars on the planet you'll never see this group of artists play together anywhere ever again end every year artists joined together for surprise collaboration is onstage previously mary j blige famous prints lady gaga and sting justin timberlake and shawn mendez and paint in gwen stafani and this year's lineup is iconic starting alicia keys cage the elephant camila cabello chance the rapper def leppard french montana palsy part her in the blowfish marshmallow miley cyrus mumford and sons dd o'keefe special guest staring chris amongst at tim mcgraw that brown band and more to be announced witness music history september twentieth and twenty first at t mobile arena in las vegas tickets at x s dot com and all the info at i heart radio dot com hey let's dive into some of the quarterback stuff and i'm gonna start with albert breer a came across his article on twitter basically just delve into all the top quarterback prospects are coming into the season some of my utah state has a guy a washington is gonna have eased any transfer from georgia there a lot of guys kind of spread out around the country who will see as michigan guy shape patterson if he can grow but it's really a three headed store class right now i at least on paper to it alabama from georgia an because clemson guys not a eligible ball in herbert at oregon then he got a bunch of good quotes you know like albert always does i actually think albert has done a fantastic job transitioning from peter king at the m qb he he knows a lot of people in the league a lot of scouting directors a lot of scouts and he gets good quotes i mean you just you know you know when people the cover nfl don't know people in the nfl in you know when you covered when you reach someone the covers the nfl that knows people in the nfl i'm not talking agents i'm talking scouting directors i'm talking gm's and i'm talking coaches because if you can't get that perspective you're just you're wasting everyone's time 'cause that's what matters that who's gonna draft the players that who's gonna play the players a so if you're not getting quotes from gm's and coaches nah i don't put much stock into you as a reporter not trying to be an asshole i'm just it's just a fact but i i wanna talk to all three guys i'm gonna start with to end trent dilfer was quoted in this article he does that at least eleven camp and they've been around spent a lotta time around i know a couple people with alabama i mean the way they were talking about this guy two years ago was basically like russell wilson meet steve young and i think trent dilfer comparing him a to drew brees maybe some people at alabama there now compared him to drew brees and the fence but that's the guy that i ironically save and missed on i think this guy's pretty special in any nfl we know a couple of things have gone out the window height the quarterback is not a big deal anymore and you can't be five five five but to his taller and cuyler murray cuyler murray went one now to it is not an elite athlete but the one thing too is is very very accurate if you're very very accurate in the nfl it's hard fail i mean alex smith had a hell of a career just because he was really really accurate now to his arms better and then alex now the hard part about too is that his sometimes when you're playing at an elite program it's hard to evaluate you because you're team is so much better than everyone else an man he's playing with a wide receiver a number four jerry judy it's a top ten pick next year i mean jerry judy might be a top five pick judy is eight free so i that's not gonna hurt him but i do think the reason we quote unquote pick these quarterbacks apart is because i'm gonna draft one of these guys in the top five and then one day i hope the pain like a hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars i love it when i can't where they're picking this guy per i guess the business people like if that's the whole point of this whole deal because if you don't pick them apart and you end up taking the wrong guy good luck to you and you're franchise 'cause you're gonna suck a promise you that an from what i've seen i think to an excellent prospect an i think he's a borderline it's it's hardest say this for season even starts but i'm pretty confident he's like a top ten lock now we've seen shit changed but i unless you know non injury i don't see how he doesn't go in the top ten jake from one thing i had thought about did did briere who is quoted i think it would either a scout or coach they said they were so impressed justin fields who's now ohio state with the number one overall recruit at quarterback was more dynamic then from giving the deacon really run just complete break now i think sometimes like nfl we put some stock into that and i say we like i'm not there under some media guy now but you know what i mean like it it is a big deal being a five star recruit being number one overall recruit whatever but you're also once you get nfl you're three or four years removed from that but it is a big deal at the time when you beat out a guy that's one year younger than you in you you can't take over because we know the the georgia coaches one justin feels will be the quarterback could be a now he had a transfer jake from just that good now i talked to move the sticks daniel jeremiah my other podcast haberman hey middlekauff listener that bad when we talk about football there to an he but he had talked to the people around the nfl their little unsure but it was the first time that i thought wow this kid's got something eastern number one recruit transfer feels even better fruit had a transfer basically what albert articles saying the jake from pressure on him twenty four seven three sixty five who's been there he's had no room for air they but they i mean they literally want and replacing last year and they couldn't so i get maybe he's not the most physically gifted guy i actually think his his cop just tv scouted him the last couple you're probably in alex smith type guy doesn't have a great arm but clearly really smart really competitive and he's got something because they can't get rid of him now this is a big year forum but if he plays well i don't see how he's not a first round player now the one thing i'm gonna keep saying all these first round guys 'cause were gonna get adjusted her right now there aren't that many spots right it's like russell westbrook about get traded in india well bring up dnb standings most teams have pretty established point guard like most teams in the nfl quarterbacks in obviously they have quarterbacks football you gotta have a quarterback but i mean quarterbacks they either believe in or they recently draft denied that many teams in the nfl sell the have openings thinking of last five or six years how many guys have come into this league like starting in two thousand fourteen derek carr dak prescott jared goff carson wentz jimmy garoppolo obviously the baker's the sam darnold josh allen and lamar jackson ten guys like last five years prior to shawn watson mitch trubisky that's like like you know more third of the league has been drafted in the last five years that's pretty and then justin herbert to me he's my biggest red flag a he's going to get drafted i like he's a borderline first round rock because of his physical tools but he's got a lot of pressure on this year the pac twelve down he opens the season with auburn i think it might be in jerry's palace maybe it's in atlanta i'm not exactly sure where that game is but that's gonna be everyone's watching oregon's a top ten team hell they might be higher whenever the preseason rankings come out but they they gotta win that game now they win that game there's gonna be a lot of momentum everyone's gonna be like their playoff team they lose that game screwed but i mean he's not necessarily screwed but i'm just saying like the the high income by winning that game for this player we could he he could he has the momentum plus the physical attributes plus all the character stuff to be the number one overall pick next year now he also has the greatest variance of like it could go the other way but we've also seen like i i saw josh allen who i think there are some similarities as a player now herbert's much more polished but i'm just saying like a guy with great physical ability those terrible in college doing the top ten so even if he had a really down season i i don't see how he falls that foreign the draft but i think no player has more the game by just kind of dominating in his team playing well because to his kind of our to right from is gonna have some physical limitations like herbert has all the physical positive attributes got this huge arm is good athlete high character guy out of big program but they gotta win a little bit a in it's gonna be on his shoulders the get the job done and we're all gonna be watching god i can't wait auburn what a july eight that beginnings probably like august thirtieth i mean were about a month and a half away not not that's not that far so it's it's gonna be fun where it looks like a pretty good quarterback class a definitely just at the top with those three guys and then like every year i'll be honest i didn't know who the daniel jones was last year at this time i i couldn't appointed amount of a lineup i i didn't know probably anything about it so and that's the one thing rewrote in they're they're like they're a couple of other guys just keep an eye on it and they'll pop up like will have a feel for those guys like three or four games into the season but right now there's a senior quarterback somewhere and underclassmen somewhere they were not talking about that's gonna come out and ball and that's what makes football so funny because nfl this season like the college season goes hand in hand with the nfl season is basically the minor leagues like in baseball you get drafted i don't see you for three years and the giants drafted this kid joey bart number two overall two years ago the best catching prospect in forever and i'm not gonna see him for two years i i'm not patient enough to wait like i wanna see the guy and then i want you draft him and then i want you to play like that's what society demands in two thousand nineteen and that's what football gives us and then couple of other things i saw i've talked a little bit about this but the mvp odds a i think right now you get some pretty good odds i look the last time a guy has won back to back nbp's peyton manning did it twice twice in the last twenty years and then obviously for did in the late nineties extra won three in a row but it doesn't happen that often so two people peyton manning and brett farr in the last seventy five years have done so it's very difficult and obviously when peyton did it it was all eight oh nine oh four oh three like pretty well established into his career mahomes will so crazy about last year while it was a second season it was first year storm so i i would probably not bet on him to win it though is there a chance he's like an all time great and he just rattled off in four straight mp's maybe but for betting odds to me the guy that i like a and it kinda hits back to what i open the show west is i believe in the cold i think the colts could win twelve thirteen fourteen games and if they are the number one seed which i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility though a little difficult just because their division is hard a but they don't they don't in the first place schedule 'cause the texans do but lock it plus at basically eight to a last year you is thirty nine and fifteen so if those if that number could get like forty three in twelve in may go thirteen and three a you just watch andrew luck eastbound a winning mvp in his career i i like those odds in any other guy but i'm just i think got a chance for a big year i think his team's gonna be really good it wouldn't shock me if they're like a one or two seed 'cause they went like twelve or thirteen games will be lanta falcons matt ryan last year was thirty five touchdowns seven seven picks everyone the place fantasy knows like he had a pretty damn good year of the defense was atrocious wasn't his fault they were thrown touchdowns you get him right now in the book i got twenty eight to one twenty eight to one now the one thing that leaves me has been a little bit is like when you think of matt ryan if he had two time mvp like that that would be the ones like aaron rodgers one to mvp is matt ryan going to mvp i mean maybe is and then they other non quarterback i actually obviously quarterbacks non quarterbacks don't win this award you know besides adrian peterson come back from an ac l run in two thousand yards like it doesn't usually happen but think about this what if i told you the jets went ten and six and levy on bell just had like a martial fall type season remember when marshall faulk mvp i think back in two thousand one and just have like twenty five twenty eight touchdowns thirteen on the ground another thirteen catching the ball all russia's for like fourteen hundred catches ninety balls and has a thousand yards and they're like i'm just timmy at water his odds i think his odds were like eighty one a i just liked them as just they maybe it's forty the one i actually i didn't write it down but it was it was big it would have been my my big hail mary though very unlikely and i wouldn't put much money on what's up folks just chris broussard hand hi i'm here with my partner rob parker at together we are very odd couple that's right joined crucify me every day as we give you the hottest vice is forced takes that you won't hear anywhere else for the director rob parker is be a more reasonable what's what so this is a couple with chris broussard and rob parker on apple podcast for forty i heart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts okay let's get to be nfc north we've done the nfc east disney nfc east we've done the nfc south we may have to south we've done do fc north now we will do the nfc north so then we have the west west there's no central and football so yeah a lot of teams here get the get through this low times getting through the slowdowns okay chicago minnesota green bay detroit start with my favorite team you know if you guys know i'm biased like i met negative head coach couple of guys on the staff but i know known for a long time so i'm rooting for the bears i am may parachuted in when they hired natty and i became a bears fan i probably route first and foremost for my two teams in the bay area more so the niners 'cause i profit from their success they do well more people listen is good for my business but for this nationally i i don't really care you know i i root for the people i know like i'm rooting for the bears an luckily it's not that crazy because last year they they're good like clearly they're pretty good to me the biggest question mark i have by for for the team with the best odds to win this division is their defense now on paper their defense is absolutely stack and you talk to people on that staff they go jeez louise we look good in practice but what will the drop off be on game day with chuck pagano an vic fangio because i think it's pretty well established big fan you're probably the best defensive coordinator last ten years we did in san francisco and then waited in chicago where he's is teams kick ass and taking names now don't forget just because ryan grigson basically screwed chuck pagano rogerson that all the power couldn't pick a player save his life a somehow kept the job there five years just because he happened to fall in the andrew luck like i i don't totally hold all the indy stuff against chuck now he's not a head coach but don't forget he went in baltimore for a long time with ray lewis in he was very very very highly thought of now we're gonna see there's a lot of pressure because this team he's inheriting argument the best even the league where everyone coming back they're all kind of like young in their prime andy expectation for the team is kind of you know make a super bowl run i i would say super boy would be strong but like nfc championship game i mean they just had a home playoff game usually the next step look at the rams two years ago host a home playoff game and lost next year they made the super bowl like i think that's totally unrealistic when you've you well the head coach no offense of guy mitch there's a lot there the work with they have a bunch of pieces on off in their office of line good a they have they have good receivers now they drafted the kid last year in the second round a miller they got allen robinson then they got rid of jordan howard 'cause he wasn't a great scheme fit and they got three cohen they drafted can't remember what school the running back they drafted on but i know i know they really liked him obviously the i'm trying to think eagles draft the guy from penn state the rams i get my mid round running back mixed up their high on the rookie running back and obviously the defense before so cleal mac human error dome best two players non quarterback on defensively akeem hicks i don't even know if he's underrated anymore absolute monster roquan smith is a bad ass i mean they're secondary's just really good they're just they're just really good i mean they're they're team is loaded so i like them to go over nine and a half to win the division plus one seventy i don't feel white is wrong because i actually think the divisions a little better than i've been kind of talking about it just looking at it because i do think minnesota who over under nine you could argue there might be more complete than the bears defense is also a leader at least on paper in mike zimmer is just a better defensive coach chuck pagano an often simply they just have more pieces than the bears i mean the wide receivers pam speaks for itself feeling decks those two are awesome somehow they were gonna trade kyle rudolph in the extended him he's really good i mean gets us now dalvin cook who is extremely talented now hurt us that he's only played seventeen of the possible third you gave birth to a first two seasons now granted part that's a tornado c l but he's really talented a big got rid of latavius murray but they're the starters on offense of kirk cousins could just play decently well any moments last year they could win the division to me both those two teams or double digit win teams i like the bears over nine and a half i like the vikings over nine at all they also resigned anthony barr like you're the vikings really good you could argue on paper their veteran the bears there's a so you know i i don't hate d plus basically two to one minnesota win the division i don't like the packers firm the simple fact i don't trust their coach at all i just do not trust their head coach at all i don't think the quarterback already doesn't like them doesn't respect him a now obviously at the quarterback is played out of his mind that quarterbacks named aaron rodgers you could beat any team on any given day their defense actually it's not terrible a they signed the two smith the various impressing sign amos from the bears the alexander the corner they drafted i think two years ago is really good a they're just they're good team like on paper they actually have some talent i i just don't trust the head coach literally at all i don't i'd heard things about him before he got the tennessee job even sean mcvay wasn't really that higher on him then somehow he became a coordinator in when he with the coordinator the titans were not very good a terrorist achilles and again i'm not like turn achilles is not some indictment on him as a coach but it does like that limits his ability in tha like he probably wasn't able to do as much how healthy is a crazy were talking about this but how healthy is the coach gonna be for training camp i dunno i i just i don't see the packers is a playoff team i actually think it's more likely and this is gonna sound crazy and people were if you donate the packers i i wanna see aaron rodgers be good he's he's one of the more fun players i've ever watched in my life but if this season for them is a disaster faster like what if they went five and eleven is look for a one and done 'cause i i actually think of all the coaches it could be a one and done this year just given the expectation for the packers like can you imagine they went five and eleven in rogers just hate them i could see for getting fired so the nine and a half i like denver and then the lions you know they actually had a pretty good off season on paper added danny amador you kind of get that winning culture that a patrician knows i love tj hopkinson they trey flowers overpaid but that's what you gotta do if stafford i already liked their receivers even when they got rid of golden tate those two guys made plays a the the running back they draft from auburn last year's good player their defense needs to be a lot better but matt stafford is proven now his wife at the break i mean i don't think i know have the brain cancer she had to go back hopefully she gets through this just fine like to me that is somewhat of a curb bonus if she has as any more complications i can't even imagine being matt stafford try and focus on football but assuming she's fine she makes everything out of it okay and he's able to kind of focus and she's her health is good to me the six and a half number on them i think they could be a seven or eight win team i don't think it's crazy they could like eight or nine if patricia's good now i don't have any information to assume elect patricia is gonna be a lot better than he was last year but he was terrible now the one thing you'd say if they did bringing a lot of new england type guys so if he's screaming new england gospel you need guys to kind of here in believing that gospel wall trey flowers believes in it danny amendola believes in it tj hopkinson a dude from ohio and like that's basically new england college football iowa a obviously stafford just a high character guys gonna listen anyone so they i think he if we're gonna find out this year if there if patricia has anything else left in the tank like if they're just terrible this year he's just gonna be fired and be a terrible bell jack disciple but but i the more i thought about it just looking at the roster a little bit and again i'm i'm still soccer for matt stafford i'm not saying he's a hall of fame player anything but if he's on they have weapons forum this i mean she is really good player those those good pick a it's not crazy thing they're they're really competitive so the lions like why it's more like the packers but again i strictly hate the packers because i i i think their coaches a one and done coach july eight i said met a metaphor more like it'd be a one and done coach any of the playoff coach so bears vikings both over nine and a half of nine you know the value i i couldn't hate on either taking the taking the bears basically basically one point seven to one or the vikings to the one you could do either one to win the division i wouldn't bet on the packers detroit win the division even though detroit i mean will be the ultimate sleeper be you're classic worst the first team every year we had a right you get them twelve the one to put a hundred dollars now metro hunter you wanna get really put a thousand make twelve jeez other roster though like i said a little better and i thought on paper this this division actually sneaky should be not bad twice gonna be hard like will force gotta beat natty aimed a nanny guyana minnesota you got zimmer and all his offense of coaches and then detroit patricia we're coaching division after the first two teams but a i'm excited watch appreciate everyone listening and then i have a good week and i'll see you guys again friday everybody going yard here postal be ever growing heard vodka i'm any honesty

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Top Ten Fantasy Football QBs

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Top Ten Fantasy Football QBs

"Is top ten fantasy football quarterbacks edition of the sports gaming podcast is presented by my bookie dot agee my book easy official online sportsbook at the sports gaming podcast use that promo code s g p fifty and get a fifty percent deposit as a bonus play win get paid rosser brought you by amazon logging over the sports game back as dot com and click the amazon banner bookmark that link and using every time you shop score sweet savings and support the podcast whoa oh welcome everyone to the sport canley pack sean second agreeing with my partner and picks were i real money kramer happy fourth of july kramer merica yeah yeah we should we talk about america sure i'm a fan saw something very i know you don't support the troops ryan but i do worth the trip this will get get us nothing but negative review sean i a you know spending fourth of july as any good american would wake up watch the hotdog eating contest and go to a baseball game ryan hopefully you played my lock which i guess that can i put out a blog post breaking down these ads for any a hotdog eating contest and they live and was under seventy three and a half caveat of free plus one ten year fourth of july anyway and i'll have to i you know i took some pictures but at the dodgers game sean oh yeah a what is more american than baseball and the fourth of july but more importantly what is more american than a grown man bringing his glove to the game in snagging a fly ball away from a kid oh i saw that oh but black the black dude and a tank top yup sitting in the lower section where in the first row of the low so we could see straight down that lower area and he might have even been a ball player through you know like they they finished the toss around ending beginning ends throws it into the crowd and there's probably like four kids any area in this dude comes you know he's gotta be like six foot two just reaches over nice catch but it was clearly an adult baseball glove yeah what do we don't i get it you're there were kids the kids bring the glove right you don't as an adult is it fair game to bring a glove to a baseball game i i also went to a dodgers game on july third what's her a good pal justin decker san diego the chargers in decker he made a great point he said doctors the kind of guy that would have brought a glove did he bring oh no he he was anti glove and he made a good point he goes 'cause if you're catching a foul ball with their bare hand there's a chance you get on sports center if you're catching with the glove that's never gonna make sports center unless you're doing some sort of move where you're keeping it from a young child and then they're gonna put it on shame me so i didn't even think about that that's a very good point i just think you know sean i'm sure maybe i've never discussed this on the podcast book years ago were sitting in me in right field area area lower level andreotti the're is the rightfielder the dodgers at the time and he he sends one he catches the third of an inning sends it in the crowd what do i do lean back full extension left handed bare hand grab ooh what if i had the glove and my telling that story right now no problem but also it's just a it's just a weird thing to bring to a game to me it said this is this is the perfect time to play the the shine box drop because oklahoma gets you fucking shine locks this mother fucker went home and told his friends about this and it wasn't like he called a liner he caught like a little flip from a player but maybe thirty yards i anyway very american of him to bring his glove to a game that's but i was getting to sean will see i think it's antiamerican mit bear you know raw dog there nothing for foul balls that's right that's america right it is america and of course he officials board of america the national football league this fantasy football preview podcast presented by my bookie dot aj my bookie dot ag either doing their own super contest that's right each week all you 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these super early fantasy football getting do it already thinking about fantasy football ryan's already china get me aneurysm cbs folly of which i have an opportunity here because i i in also in honor of america i decided to kick off a couple i like doing two at a time time 'cause then you kind of have you're in the same region of the draft into drafting kind of see what's going on both draft and anyway so i got to going on right now and i wish jonah as a draft i was just showing one of the draft and it is very much patting myself on the shoulder and i'm about to go on the clock in the six round but picked up you're boy philip lindsay in the fifth round oh i love the hair with james connor along with aj green d andre hopkins and stuff on digs but i am actually on the clock in my other leagues and this this is a purely experimental approach where i went david johnson todd gurley leonard for net philip lindsay for running backs for next i'm sitting on the clock here with my fifth pick in the dream scenario occurred robert woods is sitting there waiting for me wow i look i we we touched on a little bit i think in the receivers podcast but robert woods interesting prospect this year old regular he's definitely gonna get you points every week so when you're when you're going forward and other positions i could go a little bit more best ball in look at another type of receiver here but why not grabbed the point so i was thinking about this i think lawler just spending july talking about football football in july official mount over sports gambling podcast i think we should do either way a either a full mock draft podcast episode or you know no one ball no one's gonna look at you mock draft john are you kidding were definitely doing in right well we will have a guest on animal each have our teams and then just have the the you know will announce it live will be computer pick these other kind of give us suggestions her 'cause i know this is this is not a unique idea shockingly okay the fed anki ryan fantasy prose do this all the time and they just used they used the the mock draft engine so me you and the gas will get in with their own team's weaken spread out the picks and then we can talk about just like you but i do think i do think the way they do it is the pick like do it as were picking i think that's the more and versus doing a recap yeah we talked aurora decisions and we can take people into our minds because they'll have to make the same decisions and their draft a little slow today i did kind of go a little hard last night for fourth of july you and me both men had a a buddy cornell how they a at a pool party and he's got this great view entire city las angeles while see them all these basically twenty different firework displays going off on the same time and i happened to stumble upon some mushroom chocolate that someone gay oh and i was like oh i have a little very out of character you shown well normally i save it for if i'm camping or something like that but i was like i'll have a little but i also i can't do too much because i had this have this fantasy football viz going end i think a you know i went out a little a journey ryan and i started while i was a in joined the mushroom ride i was thinking about my top ten so you're trying to figure out how son fell gets into the top two quarterbacks getting the no no way said fields getting in because they'll give him in implies that carson wentz is gonna get injured i think that i don't believe will happen as much as you're gonna try and cursing ryan but maybe he does maybe he played thirteen games blows at ac l and they want another fucking super bowl i'm fine with that i'm a team guy right i'm a team first fantasy owner of the team first fan okay not fucking around number ten quarterback ryan my wrist okay this guy this guy my best john wrong cox now again to preface this list i took some positions you could just go like ryan's a but buddies over fantasy products dot com or whoever and just you're you're generic top ten rota world another rota world even though the square central i'm making a couple of positions there's a couple of guys on my top ten that i'm sure art on a square joe q public top ten i'm i'm taking some shots okay my number there's some shocking there but there's two or three guys here that either gonna be higher or not on some top ten lists this first guy he's probably in your top ten ryan okay coming in at number ten for the houston texans the shawn watson wow why so low again they i'm taking a position i'm really i normally don't like to predict injuries because it the national football league in anything truly can happen you could have tom brady bloated hcl game one fingers cry baby fucking man really anything could happen but for me what's scary is that lung injury had that lung injury that would not allow a fly on the team plane he had and take a bus his lungs so jacked up an it's his style of play it's not that he's always running outside the pocket and getting hit its that he holds onto the ball way too long and the houston texans offensive line has really struggled at times to protect him dozer the reasons why i only have at ten oh i love his upside and he's a guy maybe take a shot at best bully because i think he's a huge upside i think he will have those three touchdown for touchdown games but i think if you're looking for a season long qb number ten feels right for the shawn watson and honestly the this format is the strangest to do i think for the quarterbacks because there's for me you could almost look at it like you have a tier of top guys and then you have a couple of stragglers and then there's everyone else yeah i mean when we were talking up i'm not taking a quarterback in the first round i'm not totally order back in probably the top three rounds right i i would say this if you're not targeting one of those top guys deeper me i think the sean watching the shawn watson is a fringe top guy but objectively you know if you're if you're not taking look rogers and mahomes was like why are you region why are you going after a guy because you know who shit a guy like jimmy garoppolo you can get i dunno he's probably in the twenties rang in her back end of rivers this is probably between fifteen and twenty ben rothlisberger is outside of my top ten there's no shame in streaming quarterbacks there's no shame at all it's my point so fruit prefer a top ten format what i did here's i just wanna make sure i dropped in a guy who i i while while he may not deserve to be top ten i think the difference between eight and twenty is not very much a lot of people were very high and kirk cousins and other guy there but james winstons the guy i'm gonna put him in the reasons why is strictly bruce arians and that verdict that want throw the ball down let's era keep calling him jamison james winston as a little bit of both chirpin but again you have to remember this isn't about onfield leadership production winning this is about putting up numbers yeah and we've touched on the weapons we touched on the question mark in the room syrians and we know what we were there is area seems to be kind of handing over the play calling the byron left which which is pretty interesting because he always seemed like a guy who light coin his own plays so he must like what he's seen on the left which to a kind of hand over that stuff to a james winston james winston and byron left which bruce arians a guy who lives by the motto a no no risk no biscuit an i don't know how to say this in the best possible fashion but bruce arians seems like a guy who maybe come talk to james winston like a guy who could get his attention dirk cutter kind of a square guy maybe a guy can't speak the same language bruce arians seems like a guy who could talk to a player like jamus wants absolutely in and back to your point of winter winter we selecting these guys i again then if you're if you're not targeting some someone you feel is elite elite i don't see why why why why risk it when when i could just wait and grab mitch trubisky philip rivers again trubisky's the guy i don't love trubisky but the guy runs for sixty yards a game he had he had a couple of he had a couple of monster fantasy again it falls is ranked twenty eight by the fantasy prose he's ranked thirtieth by broadway i just think that this is a strange moron cox nick foles quarterback is one of those positions where you just have to have an opinion or you should just wait and an end to me yeah so so again this this format is interesting but james winston will be my number ten guy show where you going number number nine sandiego sip the chargers watch philip rivers to me i and again what's fun about these lessons i'm taking position i mean i in stock you you're talking and he's best ball example out of stock shares ex wires z boy christian paying the says it's all about investing i'm investing in this chargers team i'm investing in this chargers offense in particular i i'm really really high on this hunter henry connection i'm really high on philip rivers giving some red zone touchdowns i think because of melvin gordon's injury history i think they may i i don't know if they're gonna pound the ball in the in the red zone as much i i think i think hunter henry has a nice little jumping touchdowns end i what i like about philip rivers is thirty two and twelve last year but he did nice yards per attempt at eight and a half yup i think he's still got a couple of solid productive years left in i really liked their defense i love what they're doing defensive line i could see some turnovers you know when you get those melvin ingram joey bosa n tillery on that defensive line that skinny some saks that's gonna give you some turnovers that is gonna get you some some good fucking field position making the chargers job that much easier quick sidebar are boy adjusting decker i'm although i will say this i i have left all of the two thousand four quarterback class off my list i'm little higher on it then yeah i i like rivers and i i will be happy the end up with the rivers but the for the purpose of this argument i just i feel like it'd be reckless the put him up there just because i'm reckless i like how you reckless i just think there's there's younger guys you could put on this list and and i got a couple old salty dogs in my top ten decker to the chargers game he worries sandiego fleet t shirts saw the tweet the chargers at andrew lock it around some guy yelled at and goes go rams yeah of course there's no one else wearing any sort of chargers memorabilia and were sitting in the club level seats nice seats great experience get the weather service the whole nine you shown balling out a little bit and i were talking about u s c you cla really making fun of u s c and the guy there's a guy in front of us this old do turnaround he goes you know you see is a private college and you cla the public college anywhere like yeah yeah that's why were making fun of usa apparently he is usa alumni got real bad 'cause decker immediately followed it up with you as hey and alumni news you're a boy oj simpson and just got on twitter that's gotta be pretty awesome autographs alumni jackie fucking robinson the guy got real upset and left early he left early the game five four walk off in the tenth with bellenger two home run game yeah and i'd say twenty percent of the crowd was laughed he went yard a on the fourth as well they showed the replay and it was just do that just fucking balls out real quick to the point of people leaving early so the dodgers do a fireworks thing on july fourth end every friday early july fourth it's this big celebration for america people fucking left early like you're paying extra motor air you go it's a sellout crowd it took forever to get in the building because the dodgers i just dodger stadium is not the best a set up for forgetting a lot of people in the building quickly get another reason why you got a lot of columbia i agree such easy and i will say though sean sitting front row in the lotions pretty fun it was pretty fun to be right up on that action a but people were leaving early like fuck you you my number nine give it to me well you wanna talk about positions i'm gonna take a position here and i'm gonna put cuyler murray at number nine fantasy points here oh i keep going back and forth on cuyler murray i i love his yards but i'm kind of scared of the touchdowns but you're right these rookie quarterback's sometimes sometimes they'll just go crazy running the ball here's the cabbie i it is july fifth it is very early in the process i'm probably still not going to again i think quarterbacks probably eight through twenty don't have much difference to me so that that's gonna you know when i when i approached my drafting sean it's all about that cheering i don't wanna take the first guy that's here but i'm really bought into the idea that no matter how good or bad this team will be they're gonna run a lot more place and they have an cuyler murray is going to run the ball we've seen josh allen mitch trubisky in a button blake bortles other relatively worthless quarterbacks be relevant because they can run the ball and if cuyler murray is going to flirt with michael vick's one thousand yard rushing season he will absolutely be fantasy relevant because that is a lot of points that is a hunter points on the ground right there yeah so if you spread that over sixteen sixteen game season that's a six point edge n n arizona's defense is just gonna be so bad defense more plays 'cause they're gonna run a faster offense and a quarterback that's gonna probably scramble little bit that buddy i guess the counter argument there's a lot of three and outs i think there's it's a possibility in eighty three and outs whenever really running the ball and make mitchell trubisky relevant someone who absolutely does not have an arm i think you have to consider cuyler murray so i threw in the nine spot i i hear my number eight iceman himself mattie ryan and i i'm torn on him sean yeah again this is just i feel like i just had to put him in because a just the dome games alone first eleven games of a season are in a dome hit a nice jump in yards per attempt from the previous season a up one point two yards per attempt to me the biggest reason why i would hop back on the matt ryan fantasy train i mean i'm kind of off on him overall is a player but no steve syracuse ian has to be where he is gone annual conference of core and dirt cutter are boys are kind of end dirk cutter he has coordinator not head coach it's written all over he seemed like a decently smart guy but even in hard knocks you could tell this is not a head coach i'm actually kind of bullish on the i'm getting more and more bullish on the falcons for that reason i think they're often get back to being like they're they're often even inspite in spite of circulation has been pretty good yeah so if you've got a guy in there that's not that's not gonna be out at the bars a chilling on the download their guy ever disease that was so awesome when he got fired from you see any sued you medical condition i see you a few i got a disease are male a male right now i'm playing through the pain because it's ideal for the listeners ryan oh it's funny i write a well my eight also matt ryan i i i wish turned on him but i felt it would be reckless to leave him out just because of the potential of because he is playing in a dome he is gonna have what nine don't games i think is the number a that that's hard to ignore it's hard to ignore the chant the chance where that often to be explosive with ridley and who leo jones avante freeman still there are a lot of reasons like matt ryan hard to put him outside my top ten that that being said i'm not i'm not like banging down the draft or take matt ryan but he probably if i if i'm being honest like he's probably sitting there he's probably in the range of guys so i i might grab especially enough a pc format where a lot of quarterbacks drafted because he gets he gets you high for like to me he's very on sexy pretty high floor guy i don't know if the ceilings tremendously high though so atp around six pick kate cool i'm not say that that that's probably when i think about it but why not wait till around again were talking about more traditional draft here where you're not drafting two quarterbacks in the draft like that were you know a couple asshole friends here's will take a backup quarterback to take up linear five spots but really you're talking about there's twelve quarterbacks in this is back to my point if you don't get one of those top three or four whoever you thinker that top tier why bother just stream stream matchups matt ryan's on that fringe for me because of the dome factor though i think community year it's it's not the worst thing they have a quarterback that's gonna be playing inside number seven for me danger russ us on wilson i just kinda see a little a little movement from the seahawks team offensively nice jumped in yards per attempt to one of my favorite qb statues up point from the previous season thirty five and seven careerhigh passing touchdowns end a recipe will it just seems so best nickname ever by the rest of you will he's just kind of in put the team on his back mode again i think i kind of like some of the chemistry developed some of those other receivers tight ends i they don't have a clear cut guy that's gonna eat up goal line carey's which is something i factor in these these quarterbacks it seems like you're trying to get a the tight ends involved a little bit more in the red zone so sean i'm losing some more i'm gonna blow your mind not in my top ten i mean square play but he's still you wanna know why sure rushing yards he's still he's still puts up decent rushing yards three hundred fifty last year that's the difference three fifty five which is actually a career high four i just think the the ways getting banged up he's getting older a debate they now have a you know they continue to have a stable of running backs sean who's there who's their offensive coordinator be careful schottenheimer what is you wanna do run the ball from the yeah but this is the modern shot i love russell wilson again real football i won't russell wilson on my team wins games i don't know if i'm stretching the draft and because i'm guessing he is going i'm guessing his atp is ahead of matt ryan's were you in the six round there and i just don't know if i could take in there yeah i i got i got wilson had a ride but again you know splitting hairs here but that's a fun of the podcast kramer hoosier seven who's my seven seven i'm sticking sticking in that dome i'm sticking in the nfc south i'm taking drew brees okay seven again that's not that law it's not that low again i to me it's there's like a tier one and then maybe you could flirt with cheer to being the matt ryan the drew brees where i liked the fact that they're gonna be in a high octane offense i like like the fact that they're gonna play inside and i liked the fact they've done it before so i also just like the way that i mean drew brees is going to give you a ceiling he's also going to give you a floor so that that's when i flip the coin to determine who do i like more drew brees and matt ryan that's how drew brees ended up had a matt ryan number six for me is drew brees okay drew brees in a weird way it almost felt like a down year last year for drew brees meanwhile the guy had thirty two touchdowns only five interceptions four thousand yards passing i think it interesting that normally i don't take a ton of credence with this stat especially because the way the league's going overall but i think it's fantasy relevant especially drew brees a highest a completion percentage all time for drew brees seventy four point four percent that's a guy who's just gonna keep drives alive end with the emergence of kamar a i think it's an easy way to completions for him it's an easy way to get first downs more passing yards an it's just an easy way for him to rack up some fantasy points yeah so i think reemergence of kamar which i think could have even bigger you're in a weird way a yeah i i think he's a safe he's a guy i would actually kind of love that have because i think it depending on your league i think you could get him pretty late a guy like drew brees because people have drew brees before and kind of like i just don't think he's a sexy as he was in previous years is a pick and i think people might look past him yeah at least the public kramer hoosiers six well this is where i think maybe i fall off the rails a little bit damp and you're you're one hundred percent going to disagree with me i think but it's cam newton yeah a again you're gonna see who i think i think cam i think i think i make here's my stance on this list can maybe it's gonna be healthy this year based on what based on the fact that he's a year removed from all the bullshit he was dealing with it he's asked you gotta shoulder that's back together i don't know i i don't know that he's going to produce in again here here's an i'm gonna shed some more light on this kind of loose tier two way for me and that's all the quarterback so far in the nfc south sprinkle in cuyler murray so i think winston ryan breeze and neuner on that same bucket for me i'll throw in cuyler i i just don't know if any of these guys are guys i'm willing to reach for again my quarterback strategy is gonna take one of my top three guys or wait so cam noon i just think it's reckless and not his upside is so high with the rushing yards i think there's this for the same reason that dumb dumbs like trubisky irrelevant dak prescott irrelevant lamar jackson is relevant is all about the rushing yards sprinkle in the fact that he's gonna get a whole bunch of juice from all those catches the big that mr mccaffrey you're gonna do but he he's coming a career low rushing yards to thirteen it it seems is hurt last year dude like that's the thing he was injured all year i think you got a little got i i think i say i think too much but cam newton number six i'm not i'm not sold in that shoulder yet i'm just not my number five it's crazy i know you're gonna disagree right but i am i'm i'm buying stock in the pittsburgh often so wow gimme ben rothlisberger at number five probably pretty shocking i think rothlisburger he just seems demille he's got that one last year i like ju ju to be number one rated fantasy receiver an i like a rothlisburger to have a big season throwing the ball i don't i still haven't landed on how i think they're gonna be is a team 'cause i have a lot of questions on the defensive side of the ball but it's coming off hey a thirty four touchdowns season right there in a five thousand yards i dave just kind of and that's a big jump from the previous season this team is seemingly just built around big ben he's still getting the starts he's still he's banged up and he's still plays throat and still put up good numbers i don't think they're gonna miss a in tonio brown production wise i think they're gonna be able to find people that make up his production okay in pittsburgh just seems the oh is figure out they always have receivers that kind of come out of nowhere and i think that's kind of 'em blanket on the coach's name i think that's tomlin's best skill is being able to put together these highly productive all fences regardless hot out i i'm i i definitely think i'm gonna end up with the big ben on a number of teams just because where he's actually giving dr can clarify i wouldn't i wouldn't actually draft tim fifth quarterback overall because i i think it'd be way too high drafted but in my mind he could be a top five fantasy qb pretty easily yeah and that's i mean good transition in my top five guy because while while i did debate eight put in your boy carson wentz in here he didn't make my top oh my god were pretty different on his position i i think you know i i think you'll have he'll be fine when he's playing i think there's they're concerned about injury and i think there's a concern about the fact that when he was having that quote unquote mvp campaign he was he was hitting on a pretty high touchdown rate baker mayfield's my guy baker mayfield did not make my top to see i should've i think i probably should have put him lower because i don't think this like again i'm not i'm probably not gonna reach him in the fifth round or whatever his eighty if you look up his atp while we were talking here sean i don't think i'll be looking at grab him but there's certainly an opportunity here here's here's why i think there's an opportunity for the browns to be eighty explosive team i just don't know how long eighty p is seventy so we were talking ended a fifth round yeah so i probably haven't ranked fairly accurate according atp then a but again this is win so if you're looking at my personal rankings it goes once you get to baker mayfield i think the difference between baker mayfield and someone like philip rivers who's like fourteen on my list is almost nothing so what is that telling me i'm probably not gonna end up with too much baker mayfield but i do think just based on the ceiling sean i think his his ceiling could be huge right there there's a chance that odell is the best receiver in the league and they have a in freddie kitchen is the second coming of sean mcvay and they have is extremely explosive often a would be aggressive defense they're getting the ball out and scoring opportunities baker mayfield is the guy who shockingly have like forty touchdowns that's what i'll say a but yeah it's weird i guess some splitting hairs because i i had odell my top five receivers i did not identify rated if you remember yeah but i don't have bigger mayfield in my top ten quarterbacks i guess i'm maybe i'm being too contrarians just the cleveland hype machine is just a little bit scary the public bandwagon just hopping on board up everyone this is this is a desire year it's a little scary it just strikes me as the kind of team or baker mayfield could have three touchdowns and three interceptions every you know what i mean like they're gonna be making the ron brown he is one of those guys that's worth it for basketball league because he could have some seriously huge game i'm gonna keep reiterating the same thing but don't like don't get crazy yeah don't get crazy with the quarterback there are so many quarterbacks that will be productive again kirk cousins not my favorite a lot of people were pretty high on him and he's ranked somewhere in the twenties so tom brady to hoosier number four shown my number four aaron aaron rodgers okay john what i'm i'm giving you the merits why you're pointing carson wentz ahead of aaron rodgers so of course oh gosh aaron rodgers he it's it's gonna be a few mode season i feel yeah at there's still a lot to shake out with this whole floor thing i think well the names on the floor yeah i think of a better sense once training camp happens as the where they're really gonna a kind of come the whole power struggle if floor concedes i love aaron rodgers even more if he's really been the hardest about it and trying to install this qb dummy system that's below what aaron rodgers brings the table that's a red flag and maybe i slide rogers down the twentyfive touchdown to interception ratio pretty good that's that doesn't nick foles numbers a you know when he had that crazy run when he went twenty seven to chip kelly wow wow aaron rodgers in demonte adams it just seems like a really good combo 'em i'm gonna give you some more again this him in some of these veteran qb maybe i'm ignoring of the young guys too much to my own detriment by that yeah gimme aaron rodgers yeah i see one actually yeah i do too and i think this is where the edge of my tier one starts and that is the shawn watson and that's because of that ceiling it's because of the fact that team just wants to sling the rock they have d andre hopkins they have will fuller wow he's gonna run the rock he played through above whatever broken lung or whatever puncher law in an while i was in high on him last year when we people were saying he's the number one quarterback over aaron rodgers i certainly think he deserves and again this is where my quote tier one starts if i'm going to reach on a quarterback it's gonna be one of these guys i shot pull up the atp but the shawn watson to me that ceiling is is the ceiling is he could be the number one quarterback and i think we haven't discussed the guy on my list at least who i think could be the number one quarterback yet even in a perfect scenario it starts with the shawn watson he's got it all and atp's fifty one i feel oh so you're but again they may maybe people are kind of sort of injury potential so that's that's front end of be the fifth round yeah right that feels about where i i would be looking to take additional if i filled out by i've gotten a couple of starting running backs couple stood wide receivers and i wanna make sure i got one of my top four quarterbacks i may i may snag watson here so watson's my number four guy number three sean numbers carson wentz is here right now oh my god number three is fantasy football not real football on right agreed agreed an you know listen you you could know listen i i'm trying to pull up a andrew luck's game log from two thousand eight oh because andrew luck is my number three quarterback what's not to like about andrew luck andrew luck a thirty nine touchdown fifteen interceptions at frank reich system an there in a dome her in a dome for number of games most importantly they sorted out horrible andrew luck was really bad end the team looked really rough there what one in five start so he put up this thirty nine touchdowns fifteen interceptions and that's with a rough start i mean what's that about this colts team they seem to be building the team the right way getting good offensive lineman a to build around lock he's had plenty of time i t y hilton maybe not as injured he would kind of little banged up but they seem to be spreading the ball around in a dome all fence with frank reich who really seems the bring some innovative playcalling that's really helped the colts offense i what's that about andrew luck right here i like him as well i like him a little bit more than you sean oh wow i here's you wanna hear your hot take queue it up here's a hot take music although he is in my top tier number three guy patrick mahomes what how many of his points were just him slinging the balls hard as he can and tyreek hill what is it mean for tyreek hill the miss time what is it mean to this team and what does it mean now the patrick mahomes has a target on his head yup a lot coming off an mvp season there's a lot of reasons to like patrick mahomes but i i again when is he going he's getting drafted earlier early people i mean speaking of the juice he made a case where he drafted in patrick mahomes number one overall why and i've heard i've heard people 'cause he's a maniac but i've heard people make that case that patrick mahomes is a quarterback worth drafted number one overall no well maybe that's what i've done it myself here i'm looking at what do we looking at eighty p thirty five ish so the third round i i i think i've done this so i don't end up with patrick mahomes anywhere maybe i'm mad i didn't buy the stock last year i jeff how often do we see and maybe i'm arguing against against my own baker mayfield comments but how often do we see guys blow at the fuck up and then maybe take a slight setback maybe the touchdown rate drops a little bit like aaron rodgers very very kind will get the aaron rodgers in a second but that's i mean that's essentially i think his touchdown rate will positively regressed i think you could definitely see mahomes comeback look he's in a great situation andy reid offense the quarterback friendly and he's in my tier one again for a reason i think this is one of he's one of the four guys you wanna absolutely tried to grab or wait so patrick mahomes is gonna be my third guy that would that's the heartache of this show show well wait i think i might have a hotter take but yeah number two for me patrick mahomes on he had made here last year fifty touchdowns five thousand yards highly impressed how do you you not regress well how do you put it he's gotta go back end i i'm still high and the chiefs but i i could see it just seems like everything one right for them you know last year and now they're gonna they're gonna have some issues it i still like damian williams in in fantasy no i don't know if i like patrick mahomes is much well again emory is still pretty i if he regresses a bit down and that's forty one forty touchdowns in the instead of fifty touchdowns now says he end up being number well maybe maybe he still does maybe he doesn't i'm gonna dock and because i think i like my top two guys better and my number two guy sean is not carson wentz it's aaron rodgers what aaron rodgers again his touchdown rate will absolutely regressed up he's going he has legit targets that are being suspended by aaron rodgers is aaron rodgers he had a slight down last year i will happily take aaron rodgers any nephew mode supreme aaron rodgers f you mode i mean do you think he wanted the getting barest chugging beer like that i'm not even talking about the down year last year the mike mccarthy i'm talking about this chug chug gate will call it shug gay is coming out hot an aaron rodgers gonna be my number two guy sean happily i'll take a more of a what's his atp very question he's probably like super low atp right now he'll be he'll be fine i mean i think he's by most people's a rankings probably in that fifty five okay fifth round say that this is where i'm getting to write like do i want mahomes in the third or rogers in the fifth yeah yeah i 'cause it's not you're not it's not apples apples i get it mahomes will put up a shit load of points but it's all about the value of a replacement shown in during those two rounds you them far those two rounds now you can add to the to the more scarce positions receiver and running back so aaron rodgers might number two brian before i reveal my number one fantasy football quarterback and what do we get a shutout the amazon official partner of the fourteen when podcasts all you gotta do is go sports gambling podcast dot com you'll amazon logo there you click on that amazon logo okay this is easy no you do is just do bookmark there anytime you're buying stuff on amazon used that link you're buying stuff on amazon in supporting beat sports gambling patia crv a ton of six stuff on there i mean if you're looking for any daschle i have a surprising amount of a sports merge like kind of random interesting stuff a new jersey's t shirts autographed memorabilia billion books and be like those funke pop dolls ryan burrow those are fun carson wentz mini fat head graphic seven inches perfect size a little escalate this ooh some a dog jerseys they got it all all you gotta do sports feeling packets dot com click that amazon banner it some sweet saving and support the podcast today you know what i bet you can't find shown what can't find anyone on amazon selling you carson wentz is the number one fantasy quarterback that's why you come to the sports gambling podcast where you're hot takes somebody called me a homer for this right but at number one the double number one number eleven number one in your hearts carson bucking what was that like about this new look off at the sean jackson deep threat only outside the speed open it up for dallas got her hand in fucking zach ertz are boy warren sharp said right and he said one thing nfl team should be doing more running twelve personnel eagles are gonna be doing it all day and twice it's on sunday look for a number of red zone touchdown to go the tight end zach ertz ham dallas goddard al sean jeffrey great red zone target they don't have the garrett blunt stealing vulture in those a red zone passing touchdowns yeah maybe jordan our look at some read so much but it's gonna be all cw the jesus ginger carson wentz he's gonna have thirty five plus touchdowns i predict in this guy you wanna talk about you mode all so many haters nobody people's cars and right if he can't do it he's banged up they paid him that much without winning a playoff game oh my god why would they do that the guy can't finish the season he's about the vintage should be that'd be number one fantasy football quarterback right now save the rest of my prediction for carson wentz but it's gonna be a good season paroled old cw for the sake of the brand i bet tony during that whole brand 'cause i want a job some nice clean audio but you're out of your mind dude i think carson wentz could return the mvp form take the eagles on a twelve and four campaign and he not even sniff not even sniff the top five fantasy football quarterback so you're insane k but that's what people here tune in here you're fucking insane hot take right by the hot take take it's a it's a take that needs to go on a short but sean what am i gonna do put him put him seven this is why he's level carson wentz production case heard dakota prescott here at number seven because actually his who fucking wants to hear that bullshit bullied singer of train maybe i dunno also huge fan of dakota press you probably have because you're number one quarterback ryan no i do not my number one cannot have carson wentz in your top ten that's that's a crazy retake i would argue because he's gonna miss some games with a back injury flaring up it's not a flare up injury sure it is now let's get back injury sean don stop a bad guy kneeled stop arguing it okay let's sack is fixed let's see everyone else who got hurt last year it's a concern this year except for carson wentz is that reconfirming that take yes a the depends on the injury you brought up a lot of anyway i congratulate you on me fortitude to put carson wentz is you're number one quarterback this'll be great for the reddit and all these other roles on the internet my number one quarterback sean hot take you've already called him out andrew luck oh wow okay when is andrew luck had this kind of supporting cast this kind of offense of line an end he's in a dome maybe there's some regression 'cause some of those iran games are kind of a little bonkers but i don't know man i i'm super high in luck to obviously i'm a andrew luck stan if you will is the kids say but this often in a dome home with this offensive line that filings giving him the the kind of time he needs what's not to like yeah and again i think when i'm putting my first year together i'm basically saying which which quarterbacks can throw for like which quarterback skin flirt with five thousand yards which quarterback skin surpass forty touchdowns and i think it's that list of luck rogers mahomes and watson so i absolutely think look look could do what patrick mahomes did last year that would be the hot take he could throw for five thousand and fifty touchdowns now it's a stretch but again my top to my top tier quarterbacks but doled out on his own will be nine one don't they want some hot take some kind of outside the box thinking you could look meaning a private school quarterback number one on my list that's a hot take caveman andrew luck you're you're bff not mine i like andrew luck good did throws iraq got finally got his arm fixed who some off the board sleepers crime and that we haven't hit on well again i think coming back to my list yeah and this is more of a strategy conversation but after those top four i'm probably this is why the format it's weird i'm strangely probably not going to be looking at any of the rest of the guys my top ten because i could just get guys outside the top ten around the same time or even wait longer you you throughout ben rothlisberger i like ben rothlisberger in my top ten i think he has potential philip rivers disgusting right he seems they're always put up numbers and he's always disrespected in twelve team league you could probably get him at the end of your draft because listen there's not gonna be a chargers fan and you're drafted don't worry about that he he's going outside the top twelve if i'm desperate sean if i'm desk jimmy g is an interesting one yeah no shanahan could make a productive he didn't andrea last year a you kind of called out some reasons why stafford might be a question mark this year yeah i'm staying away from him even all the way down to like you know could be worse and starting ryan fitzpatrick the first couple of weeks i again well that's interesting to i does fitzpatrick starter today they just give it to rosen right away i think they still let fitzpatrick start and then i mean one more talking nfl week one dfs yeah i i think the move with the dolphins is they'll start start fitzpatrick because you gotta you gotta save the guy who's gonna give you some hope till later right here bench the young guy it's the it's the mover fitzpatrick has been benched many times yeah okay but he's on him and then the mind it well end and i think what all three florida teams start it out to in our three you know with these new rules about the conditioning these florida teams in the heat have a headstart so if you look at the miami dolphins week week one home september eighth it's gonna be hot it against the baltimore ravens at home and again you got fits magic he's gonna be a quarterback india fast you could probably get per five thousand he's gonna be like the bottom of the barrel tom brady's he's atp is undrafted in a standard twelve that kind of insane mitch trubisky another running quarterback josh allen who we touched on john brown in the receivers one josh allen could take a step forward again runs the ball make some intriguing lamar jackson accident high floor streaming option sean but i'm gonna you know you wanna talk about week one dfs you wanna have some fucking onions you know you start joe flacco at home on the cardinals yeah wait no yet i denied lines have gotten the cardinals right oh i'm sorry that's pre season there on the road versus the raiders i here's here's what i would say about joe flacco using stardom in that first week if you wanna have some money but as far as guys i'm looking dry i i think it's again i think it's you're either taking one of these top four guys you're just gonna wait grab wherever you like a lot of people like jared goff again regular season i'm not one to wanna grab golf at this point i think i think they often will be productive i don't know if i wanna grab one of those guys and i've done this and leagues where it's like a twelve team league last year the last person in the draft a quarterback you could do worse and jared goff if you're the guy drafting a quarterback in a twelve team in i think quarterbacks a weird spot where in a twelve team league i promise i'll probably be the if i don't get andrew luck or rogers i'll probably be the guy taking the last quarterback yeah it's probably gonna be someone like big ben cuyler murray to like have cuyler murray's the last quarterback drafted why not you can pretty quickly if it's if it's a dumpster fire you just cut bait and start streaming yeah end end dwayne haskins is a guy that probably just goes undrafted but i who knows with that situation well again is as far as you're getting a guy that's gonna start every game doughy e s and you're not getting the rushing yards i'm in lamar jackson will see other one i feel like we've kinda hit on but 'em i think case keenum gonna start for the redskins to in the beginning now now it's a did the owner drafted up they're gonna start in week one against the 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Fantasy Football Today Podcast

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"What's up fantasy football fans this is fantasy football. Today we are an award winning podcast with the best analysts in the industry. We have a true passion for fantasy football, but mostly, we just want to dominate your league. If you listen to US last year, you probably want your lead. You know you look what Lamar could do at the value you're getting him that I mean, would it be stretched that he? He started seven games appeared some others and you're in for almost seven hundred yards can you run for thousand yards? Yeah. And if that happened E. could be the top quarterback. Okay. Dave Hoosier, your sleepless, the deep sleepers Darren Waller in Oakland? Yeah. He's just going to get that opportunity that jared cook had last year opportunities everything football, and we've got more of that great advice this season who's your favorite breakout probably Calvin Ridley man. Risley's just in this perfect spot with high volume. High. Concentrated offense and it's just a perfect year. Three stages set for him to blow up way that football is right now with the war Jackson's Kyla Bury's Dijon. Watson's if you're not running for one hundred fifty yards, they might have to have a forty-five touchdown season to just get into the top three or four chords. We've got fantasy game shows grade the trade the most comprehensive starter said episodes. You can find plenty of listener interaction and so much more welcome to fantasy football today. Let's go when your leave.

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Hour 4: 10/29/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 4: 10/29/19

"All other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply cried passion and patterns the paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earned four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on as as as we reach that the epa game in jacksonville how would you describe the season so far with the gator lardo to win we all thought it was it was a foregone conclusion that georgia would be the team does that affect guys like you especially upperclassmen who have been through the program of course yesterday we had the wide receiver quarterback of the wildcats right now tyree cleveland joining us why receiver from the gators up played a pretty important part in the hail mary against tennessee and we're delighted to welcome to the program great to have you on tiree and yeah we in the media we make a big deal about these predictions and and you're right none of us none none of those i can remember picks course friday we'll be live in jacksonville right outside the stadium as we get ready for florida georgia and we're always excited to welcome players to our remember some pretty epic plays over the last couple of years he was responsible for the winning touchdown against LSU three years ago that clinched the division he's also hang on their philippi went down i mean how disruptive has all that been to to to be where you are right now a top ten team with a lot of i hope the season has been good to you good afternoon well let's i know i think it's an understatement ask you about this week's game but i but i'm curious got to be proud of proud tire i know players are focused on what they can control the controllables aged legally you got a lot of big games during any season certainly you book in miami and FSU at the end tennessee's big listen i mean coaches say they're all big but how do you as a player view georgia is that your biggest rival now definitely you know it's interesting too i recall we were down there we've been to a couple of the florida games as you're starting with miami i mean there were some really close calls being up in lexington and you guys at the NFL i know everyone wants to play in the NFL there's certain players you key on on sunday in terms of saturday i've been around a lot of florida players in georgia players and they've all describe what it's like coming over people feeling very good about the next couple of weeks or you know if you're a good you know allowing preseason tiny nobody went and talk about like distance when you know your games are not twelve o'clock three thirty nine games are you are you and your teammates watching the other teams in the league better position so looking at you know different covers looking at the scheme stuff like that definitely watch other players on the country let me close by asking about coach mullen you didn't start out playing for him of course but you do now what does he inlet what's being said on that field before the game and there's always a little bit chirping going on back and forth how do you control that part of it so it doesn't it's been really good for most people this season you know we had a lot of tough battles early on that show how tough as a team we are we the bridge the excitement of that game how do you stay measured because you can't let the emotions of the pre-game and you know a lot of the guys that play georgia you know a lot of the guys that play everywhere because you've been you've been two camps with them you've played high school ball with him when you're not playing in a lot of team alley charta the hawks houston pets i i really don't even know that he's throughout my career you know all the gang georgia though they beat us less it's kinda kinda i want to say this is a meaningful game come on next week and all that just and i know i know it's been a busy day with practice thanks for coming on and all the best on saturday hope to see you soon thank you thank you cleveland effort relentless effort you know it's a big game and you know tango company either so i can say that control which patrol and hey how are you we're well thank you good all right i know mr mom you're not big on clemson but i i have to stay the wide receiver from the gators reflecting on what's ahead on saturday afternoon we'll be in gainesville excuse me the jacksonville bills down in florida we'll be in jacksonville this friday afternoon doing our program greg is up next in north carolina hello greg three point oh eight passionate efficiency trip travis ETA already over a thousand yards trevor throws asian you never stop fighting we get ws you know this season the going great for which i wanna finish wrong if finis- finish out his four game winning affect what happens once three thirty comes a gotta focus focus on her now don't focus on too dumb interceptions and then he's been right back with over six hundred yards and six touchdowns and i just don't see how you're so down on them and how of course that and i hope they're watching pickup paying for them how do i pick up a lot of players across the country but you always get okay sincere just just to talk about it for total defense fourth in total offense i know we're not hi got respect for him so he he's been kosher for a long time and we got very very very smart about the schemes and stuff like that possible to do in this day and age but he wants you to come to clemson and enjoy it and play and all the guys pull each other they want him to score the nation is so down i'm and i love you guys and i love ESPN but all our stats are increasingly better than last year but the main play we're not dealing with a lifetime achievement award or anything like that shurmur lawrence low slow waiting for the last three games a hundred eighty as a young man with with unrealistic expectations maybe it'd be the greatest quarterback of all time but i believe they'll be there at the end and you know i NFL up front and we're still sixteen turnovers three interceptions in fourth total defense what do you think from listen greg i have great respect for that program my only objection this year has been the competition but as as the season has unfolded against north carolina but trevor lawrence is i think battling himself a little bit which is fine i mean he you know he came into the season i have put clemson in my top for the last couple of weeks because i looked past some of the things that happened early on everyone has a bad day and they had a bad day are just so inferior thank you very much for the call we you know you know cat daddy what did you think about clemson this year so it's just a mess but we had an off game against north carolina with a lot of bonehead planes yes we we could have easily lost it but we lost four guys i want to know your thoughts on that that's all i mean as you can tell a big clinton guy and i understand that the ACC is is horribly week this year horribly weak in the coast to this program and and and and would you describe him as a players coach i came here you know the terrorists if we all coast to play and they're saying here which is coming in just going each and every saturday or the game for us you know and he's not there to run up the score on any other team he plays a hundred eleven players eighty six players a hundred and ten pairs that's almost an i wanted to do what they're sorta were you know we repeatable dogs terry as a player your yard they're playing alabama you know their schedule you know is not as great but people don't get teams when they're playing utah state or north western state they just seem to get on the program he made he made a statement and he said he gonna get florida back at the top of the plan and do games and just having a coach come here right there that i have that i absolutely love is davos sweeney stated over and over again he is not there to embarrassing the other team a we will continue at your phone calls here in just a moment you're listening to paul finebaum show podcast pullback let's continue with more awesome because the ACC down so that that's just my only objection and i like i said the fact we're still scoring sixty points a game with ago like that one of my favorite players they have like nine obviously you back and lead by watch him a lot growing up i feel sorry for clemson having to play in the ACC i i mean i i don't know how you get fired up every week when you go play teams author rain sons play each other in the florida georgia game so she wants to know now that she's ninety eight is she going to need to shoot for teams in the AFC won't bob him i'm just i'm sorry to see today is my mother's ninety eighth birthday she's a longtime florida fan and three or four grandsons had college football scholarship wait to see the matchups because it will be nice and i'm sure you'll agree to see them play a really good team yep absolutely i'm looking forward to and i'm very impressed with LSU cbs georgia yeah and around her eightieth birthday a few days before she was able to go watch fantastic story tell her to be patient and i think the gators are positioning themselves i know the last year they beat us say they say they own they beat us the TV show i feel like that's a big lower for the we're not gonna get over here right now trying to stay focused and try to keep keep the scene work and keep the teams you have to get better each and every day out on the practice field there it is on the much champ today or the much trump train shop crane is raining cloudy and talk radio down him i just need to know what what not to do i think that will cause ninety eight is just have a couple more years to go and i'm gonna make hey listen thousands caroline is up next caroline is calling from florida caroline good afternoon to you thank you for taking my call thank you all due respect but i think if she can stay in good health is she is she in relatively good health yes she's right here h for thanksgiving to spend a week there that's what she wants to do and my brother and sister in law the the parents of the three scholarship winners my father hey paul hey mom i i need to know this you're just a couple years older than me just not not many wh-what carolyn what did what did you guys do to celebrate this momentous occasion ninety eight versa we are taking her to the live in panama city and and that's what we we're taking her to have thanksgiving is their house and all the boys will be there all of her grandchildren of college football leaves here the the paul finebaum show our four podcast we welcome you back ninety eight stay in good health just having good care that's a good pair well for a national championship run here i don't think it will be this year and it may not be a year too away or i hate to use too many years away pull up the team brain with old file kate y'all defending national champions and you got the number inspiration hey thank you caroline happy birthday again and really really deeply appreciate your call thank you we love how do you stay in good health how do you get to ninety eight in good health i really want to hear this how to use it jordan eight to see the gators won another national championship caroline first happy happy birthday to you to your mom that is thank you thank you very much all the best to you we're up against the break where it really good show PJ flack the minnesota head coach was with us earlier we had jeremy pruitt yesterday so we're really looking forward to it and they they all called her today they're great guys well this is indeed a life well lived and you've given all of us a lot of fans are upset how we could go from losing a game to file by -ficiating they go up job killer c. which is probably one of the worst all vom i will never ever give up and now missing tom tom i have wrinkled metal mood shot and we look great uh-huh so you only got towards the way he go about things we push it pushes player the best tire listen i look bassim slide down the state by the way what about your team are you a are you on on on employ played notre dame notre dame don't kill them and they put three points on the board and there's no alibi alabama don't kill what did obama no no this is not let outside scratching get the ever gonna be very emotional but you gotta controlling and when the game comes just let it out have fun january five bomb they gotta they gotta put your game i mean they win and the national campaign from last year although i wouldn't up and just make plays you know throughout the season so we have high star quarterback now suffice contracts get a great job coming in you know all of a sudden thank you so much that's great to hear ninety eight years old that that's quite an accomplishment let's get back to the calls and talk to my aunt in tennessee good afternoon wars going on all my brother from another mother other berry you ask i've been watching and i've been listening so i know how you're doing you're doing fine thank you i'm here but i gotta if you will let me wish happy birthday to end congratulations to the ladies grandmother i believe ninety eight today well i mean listen jeff fisher was a really good coach in his time you had a bad run in LA and that doesn't mean he's a bad coach that'd be great let's be real alabama is the class of the field hey thanks i think i think missouri is still a challenging game on the road missouri cannot play worth flip i'm great i just i just had a bit of a bold prediction i wanted to throw your way huge gators fan man i predicted want to win the SEC championship and making the playoffs your thoughts well listen i it's it's not outrageous let's continue with more calls and sean is up next in indiana hello sean hey paul how you doing this afternoon great show so thank you do i told many many of my patients that that lady's mind memory and recollection was a lot sharper than mine what i'm telling you up now jeff fisher to come in notre dame i don't care michigan he could coach anyplace again but very bill i love seeing there that's a marriage relations i had my wife's grandmother who made it to one oh six oh man up until her last month on the road but they have been really good at home a thank you for the call can is in montgomery alabama can you're on the air go right ahead hey there paul i say that they got all kind of exposed players at wide receivers and you said you gotta have it in the offensive line block on but hey at south carolina i think we need to see what happens this weekend but i think if if florida can get past this weekend they should they should get to lanta in pretty good shape absolutely i do you think missouri game a rematch against LSU in my opinion be careful there about making changes the two teams that i have rooted for as a native excellent right on point exactly where are you going or where do you want to go and my admonition would be mentioned group saying no matter didn't even matter how that game came out he had to go so that didn't work out real well for either of those other but to me the best coach eventually is going to be most likely to be the one who's solid both in his own mind and his own methods but who treats the players that way not not coddle at all right up to the end so this lady you've obviously seen a lot what's i know there isn't a secret sometimes it is it is a genetics but you know lot for houston right about that i mean he he was fantastic in in both the houston national vanilla how game they get pretty darn good there they they're coming along and people made journalist alone you have a couple years and let's say what goes what's going hurt and i can't take credit for that or a few years lord i had to pull for alabama during rid do true i like random little too and i guarantee you bring them and i wil owner well don't don't don't bad but just thanks for the call great to have you on especially when you have to charter a board member board of trustees plane to go off and try to get one that you didn't need and don't be so where the rivers flow with ice cold dr pepper with air smells fresh cut grass artificial turf and smoked meats foods and i don't think it's working out well for auburn with their two freshman quarterbacks for the head coach to proudly for those people who have reached that age what do you think it is gosh well there's the old saw good living term ever worn afraid to shout my grandma could have made that kick because that's the honest truth passionate fans down by loyalty tradition swift birth and a couple of weeks so paul i think your question to the south carolinians is is but good things happen to good guys eventually so don't don't go scouting around to replace a tubby with a radio only plays marching baths and being able to read the defense is more important than being able to read who was a junior in high school to learn the whole thing but they weren't playing in baton rouge and they weren't playing in dallas announced that he threw the whole playbook at them before the beginning of the season they're they're still freshman they're both good he minutes remaining on this tuesday early evening stick around and let us hear from you you were listening to the paul finebaum show podcast obama or alabama andover because we're we're live and because of guys before us that were are those it went to one school yeah i mean his nashville running war the epic you're exactly right you've very very short i love your show man you your show is a major high y'all spelt my name wrong divided my wife's alabama trips and tied fan but i'll i'll say this real house but i talked to you about a couple of months ago but to see and you know what shen and the sweet sweet nectar of the college football gods get a taste of fans villas fall during a college football game near you dr six six it would not be great but this week to me uh-huh well anyway i'm going to be sitting there with h. o. p. e. dislike watching facing the giants nick for alabama to turn away a coach that went to the first iron bowl in auburn with a record of ten and oh and stood still had an infant maybe they were finding high school maybe he was able to teach all or allow joe blow the third right right you're right about that but anyway i just want to say you know i'm hoping against hope but you know you never know what can happen in my opinion but almost besides nick saving i'm a hulu in venue for you dansk but what makes fans build truly special are the people who call it home field the type of people who tailgate before the tailgate so i think the good guys eventually are gonna come out with a record well thank you very very much what a delightful call we're heading to a break we still had well true but anyway i'm hoping they're going to beat arkansas alabama i doubt it very seriously and then then abilene right but i i think a loss to arkansas would would collapse his support right i i totally agree with you but anyway i just i just you say that because we have a lot of people that worked very hard putting this program together i'm i'm i'm out here and i and i'm some of the vicious attacks that we get so that means a great deal to all of us here on the program joe is up next how are you joe so we got a lot more issues and i thought we had no i don't i'm only an opinion i'm not a right and there's always hope for anybody anywhere you just have to have it now that that probably doesn't sit well with a lot of people they say yeah we've heard that all year long with the support of the administration which he does have he'll he'll have a bumpy off season but it won't be the end of the world ah this weekend ole miss or the games that are going to define stay out of the year and i don't see i think nice to the criticism but i always feel badly when the folks behind the scenes and occasionally or in front of scenes have to be subjected thank you know how many people are going to be watching the mississippi state arkansas game saturday i might be the only one i don't know but record number hello everybody you're looking live at fans ville a college football utopia inferior team based on talent and all this is a team that would scare me a little bit yeah i agree with you know if if we lose our there and i don't see him beaten georgia but what i would like to get your perspective on this game this weekend and laid out in florida i would like to wish her mother i was gonna be like about mississippi state then you'd say thank attitudes henry what would the record me of in christian we should win that one and hoping against ole miss and we winnow story and we hope i weigh abo- what do you think the conversation emerge and that's like him i don't think that last call i don't think you have to worry i do believe that mississippi state we'll beat arkansas and i agree with you there in your family a very happy thanksgiving henry thank you i don't mean to make too much out of compliment but we don't get that many and i the personality that mullen has he doesn't have the swag and he certainly doesn't have the record so far great to have you on thank you joe let's continue with more calls moorhead is a respected coach but he followed mullen who struggled at times but finally led that program to to heights and he doesn't have repaired the official drink of fans ville grab some today henry how you doing today henry if these teams were to meet earlier in the season against each other across conference play instead of waiting until the end of the season or do you think that it would actually hurt the big ten it's ohio state michigan wisconsin in the SEC alabama LSU all burn do you think that the playoff system would benefit the same teams that we talked about a year and a year out so my question to you is each conference every year always says the same dominant teams over and over such as more eddie may be in trouble if they don't and but i i would like to comment on the auburn fan called earlier talking about auburn possibly making the bowl championship series well listen i mean sometimes they do i mean auburn the last two years has played doing well thank you really enjoying the program as they do every day i'm retired and i always look forward to watching the four hour to paul about good information ninety eight years old i'd like to wish her a happy birthday and out would like to say this to her that you know i'm not gonna guarantee florida win but they're close washington and oregon those are the best of of of the pac twelve so you have a lot of important games alabama has and ernie is up next in florida hey hey ernie welcome to our show hey thanks for having me really enjoyed the show i want to tell you how people like me appreciate your program it's a refreshing and always a lot of good information that's toll i wish you in the people they'd florida state a couple years ago that was one versus three game you had LSU in texas those are two top ten so i mean i don't by all play off with a two loss team and so that that's you know a moving the goalpost fall and i can't say over getting over a one i'm doing great paul and hey y'all do a great job i got it and i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't have been been around this waves you y'all do that thank you serbian leaving not paying him the money but you know that that's part of it i mean he was not going to stay there but i think that rubs mississippi state people even even more i mean thank you for listening to the paul finebaum show podcast the paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern also ohio state i can't see them getting in over one loss clemson even i mean even though they lost to alabama well the lewd they're going to get their third loss and then they're gonna move to go post again and create a scenario have i could still get in and but i i don't see over winning that game ohio state big ten fan i understand your alabama SEC but i just want to say you're very fair on the way you talk about other teams and conferences and seems either in a bowl game or in the college football playoff in less this happens unless they expand the playoff to eight teams when you can easily afford a loss right now you can't afford a loss to have and then have any comfort in what is to come hey thank you for the call really do appreciate it we are officially out of time for this program we appreciate all of you for being a part of it some really interesting guests today will see you right here tomorrow really a i don't know if i really want to see alabama ohio state play on the first weekend

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240. Tapping Out on Monday Morning...

The Working Experience

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

240. Tapping Out on Monday Morning...

"The next five days on this mini episode of the work experience enjoy the working experience dear listener it's Monday morning the dreaded beginning of the Work Week and Matt Ni- have some advice free to make it through and that's it the end the sweet and until our next audio encounter coming up with these ideas ideas speaking of horizontal over the weekend ahead a bid run in with some Mexican food did you like take the whole family out took the whole family out and you know they come out with the Free Nachos and of course I just I just hammered down these notch I think we got three reorders of Free Nachos then we order the back just a yeah we we need a teen besides ourselves because too much things just don't it's like like hey everybody welcome to another episode of the Working Spurs Podcast Mattie K. and John and welcome on this how about this for another book title I just keep coming up with them move chains we think about like that fine Monday morning at if you checked out my twitter account or the working experience twitter account yesterday which I'm sure all of you did arrive reason and then much like me it's horizontal on the couch just because I've expended so much energy just I cannot remember now I just I it's so many ideas how can I keep track of them all it'll it'll come back down the towel so then we all order I order a a Mexican bowl called the works and that should just speak for itself ah like a boomerang all the good ideas was just circle on back this is why we really need a working experience secretary in turn something like you're our ideas or like when you have a balloon filled up balloon and then you let it go and it goes like really hard off the gate and then it just like like stomach that so this little story coming on twenty five years later starting to fit in starting to fit in it doesn't fresh GUAC another thing a nachos comes out Polish that off I mean I was at the only one eaten at my boys reading genie essentially just kind of like through I finished that eight and doesn't finish his food so I eat that and then I polish off another bowl of tortillas that moved the chains that because that's football we have hard in the paint basketball obviously move chains football did we have we have another book title which is putters in the house that's exactly what generally happens with our ideas hard baby eh tweet at about five thirty a M I was already up I was already going hustling you think I wait for Monday morning if you're starting on me did anyone else get get this affliction genie she got like hot pipe I think it was too spicy for but the boys were fine it was wait for the sun to Kota for that all before that come on you know it's like when they're moving the chains and the football game already moving those chains baby ooh is really mean Jean that took the took the brunt of it now see some people in our friend Tom who you have always accused the morning you're about a thousand yards behind me from the starting line buddy boy Ma Matt starts at the crack of dawn he doesn't he when you first let it out it's not going in a straight line it's like go to the ground op yes gluttony in in the greed that just takes over as I shoveled in my mouth yeah I have on occasion like it was terrible like the vegetables were undercooked and it was just like none of it's fresh and I was complaining about it my friends like while you're at one period I was I I knew a lot of Brazilian people and not in New York mobsters neighbors were my girlfriend for a time and shoveling spoonful after spoonful -solutely I rarely phased by food I will eat well one time back meeting at Ted I've worked makes the dream work moving and after the meeting we'll have a breakout session where am I doesn't help your case that much but you've always made I wouldn't use the term week term I prefer the term a gentle slipping you a undercooked wing at one of this day to this day he's slipped me and undercooked wing he is always accused you of having a week acephalous called mission Taco literally brought me to my knee oh my God it was it was bad it was bad golfing hot sauce all over this probably about twelve thousand calories and one somewhere somewhere around there somewhere around there and I came back in the next a lot of them here in New York do they go out of business or should I got this meal it was like a chicken dish it was like chicken it's just a lot nece I like sometimes I walk out of a restaurant like bursting at the seams Yob walked all of sweat like exactly that's appetizing while speaking of which I'm sure a lot of people the might be suffering a little on this Monday morning because finishing the whole thing I'm like Blah of course I'm finishing it in my mind one thing has nothing to do with this is the worst food tasted we've got football I never watch football never so come back was on Saturday and I come back routinely eat half of his meal and then bring the other half home looking out of like what losers Matt's for loser you kidding body's just coming back to normal and he gets sick did all my body had a tough time processing that that amount of Mexican am I watching this I couldn't put my finger on it but I just kept on and I just sat there yeah I will watch screwing them like it was obviously a another university that was done at their caliber and I just I'm watching five minutes I'm like why I'll watch part of games I will not watch I won't sit down and watch you know like an entire the however long it is two three zero sympathy from genie she's she tells me to stop you did it to your tells and then I get in the car and hold on my stomach did it ordered way too much food and been like what was I thinking why why did it and I'm a pretty big person and I'm like you know that it becomes like becomes morning my suggestion to you to kick the work off right if you're working for someone is to go onto youtube or ESPN I was afraid I would get like if I was by myself in not in a dinner but I was afraid of all over the table if I did so I did braid when it's sitting in front of you and you just need to eat no no they just keep on pilot in front of me and my actually my brain is telling me to stop Cummick deserting you have discerning yes it it doesn't surname stomach processed food and things and yet somehow this doesn't connect to your complain how sick to feel and then hopefully you'll be able to go home early around three o'clock I think that's a good road map then watch all the highlights from this past weekend's game the that'll fill up your morning then in the afternoon for lunch go out to a big Mexican they just in their go and then get up and go like the pizza's fine but you know for the these meals are not cheap either I mean it's it's not like you're getting a deal like you know they're probably a twenty dollar range Out Sweating before oh I sweat like team these sweater like I just ate like why did I do that to myself and then I get I get aw that's always a good one little potty humor for everybody restaurant have a huge Mexican fiesta for one not for like a group of people just for yourself come back to the office and just for the day you know what I like is doing that and and I'm envisioning the cubicle you know the sort of that and just hearing with football season people like downing those wings and the now again we and and we've got postseason baseball going on in between my ball my boys games and I just sit down I turn the TV and the Notre Dame game is on and they're playing I don't know who they were playing but they were just I do the same thing and it becomes a contest this food I gotta eat this I have to eat this there's no way I now some people like a friend of mine he will thirty minutes Oh clean yourself up come out and just stroll back to your cubicle like nothing's the matter but as soon as you break the threshold of Your cubicle hours I mean if it's going to be decent game like a lot the first flight four games this season with the Patriots they've just like stomped all over the other team and I'm just or a Red Sox fan I just draw blank like I don't know I have no I the one red sox player I could mean for you as David Ortiz that's GonNa that's GonNa be well received Monday by earlier Collie lutely absolutely I was I was asked by somebody earlier it and spring back to the bathroom I kind of like the staggering out of the bathroom with the taught him all live here I remember we were eating in a restaurant it was terrible absolutely terrible and fish like they'll cook just a whole fish you know it's not like the haddock fillets I'm sort of used right and they will eat the eyeball I love it I've eaten fish all see I haven't done it I wouldn't do it because honestly I was afraid I would throw up like I it wasn't like I was longest been since boy that's a while back see I'm actually not that bad at like baseball football basketball like hockey it's like why do I wanNA watch forty five zero game like what do I get out of that you know well listen if if if you if you're listening to this and it's Monday or attention to the Bruins 'cause they good and I liked several hockey players and some of my classes so I started paying more attention to like told you to stop it's like no you did that yes I told you five times star you're lying down in the back seat teases like a like a TGI Fridays kind of thing it's a chain yeah I'm very familiar with it or you are familiar acts they are actually closing the best make a huge burden auction out of it and then and then stay in the bathroom for like a solid that'd be open will now with with the boys if they don't finish their food and then take it upon myself to finish their food assists and there's a football game I'm going to Florida and the gators are playing I think that numbers are really high yeah they have a vested interest but sure on ties loosened and you're kind of staggering out looking at everyone going actually know much about what they're watching and the rest of their to just kind of eat wings and drink beer and have an excuse to do that see if someone brings up hockey I literally couldn't name a single player I have no idea what's going on I pay a little more isn't Barth Barstool sports that start in Boston it may have the May have it on now I can name Tom Brady Julian Edelman in New York City maybe maybe a little bit more to it really depends professionals fourth lar Boston I mean Boston is like I think it depends on where that bar is what town it's in like if you go to like a like a like text oh now I really don't tell you all right all right we we've I don't even know what this podcast out but well sports adopt he was really mad the Patriots won but they didn't cover the spread and he was like so how much did he have on it I don't know played for one game and then they kicked him out I really can't off the top of my head I can't think of any other players and it's you know again I t they're they're in love with their sports fanatic was good I mean like once they start losing people lose it I mean I can as a year like I said I had taught in New York and moved back to Massachusetts and was like so the real question is are you a Yankees hoppy that's it I don't I can't David Price I can and David Price I don't know anybody in the Yankees I remember Derek jeter Chris Bleed the minutes Ma'am traffic should make make sure lane johnny that report essay on that presentation shore wants to see you yes this question a little before who go out to a bar to watch a game are actually interested in the game at all I would say probably ten percent of the people they are a game but you know what killed you don't have money on the game it's like I won twenty bucks on one game I think like fifty there's your on forgetting the goalies name see Berge Iran rings a Bell I've heard that name yeah and I can't remember and Rob Gronkowski but his employees anymore great Brady cattleman Antonio Brown just because he so he's getting a little retirement money will he doesn't mean this the the guy the post office started ranting about Gus cousy C- costs money we don't know anything about it I can you know I can't speak intelligently about it and whenever anybody asks me about the big rivalries like I rush you know I have kids in my class boys who are like seventeen eighteen sixty and they're always like ask me about the Patriots and stuff like I don't I'd loyalty all that stuff when you put it together I was betting I would bet on Games in college and then it was really interested in having problems and he's missed a number of extra points and he missed you know he I think he's on the take he may be while he's out for the rest of the season basically on Tuesday morning eastern standard time she's got a book coming out called initiated memoirs of a witch fascinated absolutely more podcasts please listen to the podcast with Amanda Yates Garcia she was an absolutely fascinating guests her podcast will be live at five his name right now so but he's from Finland I think but yeah I'd I mean sport how many people would you say about two I think he had he said he had a little bit that could meant five hundred grand I don't know Lee said a couple of friends of his see the kicker Gostkowski has you believe APP the only APP that delivers video proof of the tooth fairy and Santa by simply taking a picture download the APP at still believe build engage in entertain your audience reach out to me at John at one circle media dot com I would love to hear from you the key is at the conspiracy theory on the take he's been in the League for sixteen years so I mean he started shows age but this guy was dot co today in a major kids and if you work for a studio network startup or corporation and are looking for a partner to create media that will I kind of know each familiar to me I'm familiar to him and he was like did you watch any football this last week I said I'll a little bit you know this and that and Matty Kay in a witch you gotta you gotta listen to that it was like a in a dark room feeling around for the light switch and I I gotTa Tell You I am skeptical about a lot of things but she's great yeah definitely listen that tomorrow at five there's another one like fifty on the Super Bowl then I lost fifty dollars and then I bet on a basketball game it's no idea some people showing up I don't know right everybody I hope you have a great Monday great week we'll be back with they should have said like then I lost my house twenty five fifty lost fifty Ted while you know they still won and he's like yeah but I lost it in cover the spread like here's this whole other layer to it you know like yes yes dan all right everybody thinks luckily thank you everyone for listening to this episode of the working experience we'd like to think our sponsors one circle media and the indeed most of my house not even my house call parents and be like listen funny thing it's you know 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March Madness: The O.J. Simpson Civil Trial

Sports Criminals

00:00 sec | 8 months ago

March Madness: The O.J. Simpson Civil Trial

"This is sports. Criminals March madness special each day in March. We're counting down the top thirty one sports scandals of the past thirty one years in today's episode. We GO BACK TO THE YEAR. Nineteen ninety-seven most people remember. Oj Simpson's criminal trial where he was acquitted onto counts of murder but he also had another trial two years later. If you enjoyed the episode be sure to come back tomorrow for more shocking sports events from history on our March Madness. Special as always you can listen free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Millions of viewers had gathered for the main event nearly nine out of ten households in Los Angeles tuned in cameras bobbed and weaved capturing every move every triumph and defeat as the competition drew a close. The victors cheered and pump their fists in the air. The losers comforted each other promising. Next time we'll come out on top. The lines weren't drawn between fans of competing sports teams. The country was split between those who believed football star. Oj Simpson was a murderer. Those who insisted he was innocent now on Tuesday February fourth nineteen ninety-seven. Oj stood trial a second time. This time in civil court once again he tried to dodge charges and rush past prosecutorial traps. If he failed it could cost him his home his wealth his reputation everything. Welcome to sports criminals. A podcast. Original this is the eighth episode in our March Madness. Special this month were counting down the top thirty one sports scandals from Nineteen Ninety to two thousand twenty on Roy. And I'm Tim Johnson in today's episode. We're going back to nineteen ninety seven to explore the civil suit against O. J. Simpson for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. Even before he was mired in scandaled. Oj Simpson was a household name. He spent eleven years in the NFL. In one thousand nine seventy three. He became the first to rush for two thousand yards in a single season. Something only seven footballers have ever done in the history of the sport and Oj came agonisingly close tying his own record falling less than two hundred yards short in one thousand nine hundred eighty five that season. He scored sixteen touchdowns and secured his reputation as God. Thirty two year old. Oj retired in nineteen seventy nine but his star still shone brightly. He was inducted into the NFL. Hall of fame in Nineteen Eighty Five and leveraged his popularity and fame into a lucrative sports casting GIG and movie stardom but everything changed in the early morning hours of June thirteenth. Nineteen ninety four shortly after midnight. Investigators arrived at the home of. Oj's ex wife Nicole Brown Simpson. She was found dead along side. Her friend Ronald Goldman police immediately focused on Oj. He had a history of domestic abuse and investigators found a suspiciously bloodied glove enclose on his estate. Four days later the Los Angeles Police Department charged. Oj With the double homicide but the superstar couldn't be brought down that easily. He assembled a Dream Team of lawyers. Who deftly deflected the prosecution's arguments for the of? Oj's nine months trial. Thanks to their decisive work on October. Third Nineteen ninety-five. Oj was acquitted of both murder charges. Roughly a quarter of the country celebrated those who believed he was innocent but the rest of the nation was convinced who was guilty and that included the families of Nicole Brown Simpson. And Ron Goldman in January nineteen ninety-seven. They filed a civil suit against O. J. Simpson. They couldn't send him to jail but they could sue him for all he was worth. This trial played out very differently from the first OJ. Had A new team of attorneys cameras. Weren't allowed in. The courtroom. Plaintiff introduced new evidence including proof that he owned a rare pair of shoes that match the footprints found at the crime scene. Ultimately the jury found in the plaintiff's favor this time and ruled OJ criminally negligent. He was sentenced to pay the victims families. Thirty three point five million dollars the equivalent of nearly fifty five million dollars today. The verdict virtually bankrupted him though even as recently as two thousand seventeen the family's claim they have received only a small percentage of the settlement money. Oj Simpson's to murder hearings. Were highly publicized highly controversial. There's a reason the criminal proceedings were dubbed the trial of the century. The car chase leading to his arrest was the fourteenth most watched event in television history and his verdict was the most viewed with as many as one hundred forty two million people tuning in as a pro athlete. Oj was used to the attention and oppress but these trials were different. There wasn't a title or a championship on the line was his freedom his reputation and his cash like any football star. Oj navigated the field of the courtroom as best. He could scaping criminal charges before he was sacked in the plaintiffs brilliant play. Thanks for listening to sports. Criminals March madness will be back tomorrow with next year scandal. You can catch our other episodes of sports criminals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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OJ's Jersey Returns

The Lead

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

OJ's Jersey Returns

"Yesterday afternoon the Buffalo Bills Rattled off their sixth win of the season could be the there now six into and in second place in the AFC East behind the Patriots though to be fair there in a division with the jets and the dolphins so trip trip but at the game yesterday and on the previous couple of weekends something has been happening that hasn't happened for forty two years a buffalo bills player has been wearing number thirty to the same number worn by O. J. Simpson the number was never retired but it was taken out of circulation until this past summer when a new player came along and was told it was available the athletics Tim Graham Ram who has been covering Buffalo Sports almost twenty years broke that story and so today we're going to speak with him about the guy who's wearing number thirty two why hi in the world he would want to do that and how OJ Simpson is remembered in Buffalo. Today you will see hundreds of people wearing number thirty two simpson jerseys in in the stands on Sunday afternoons for Bills Home Game and it's not being done ironically from wondering and the athletic I'm under Scelzo Aalto and I'm Cathy Davidson it's Monday November fourth and this is the lead it felt like something was take the emotion and over the past don't matter because you it it stays with you hey tim how's it going honors it's going great good dear from you so the bills are off to a rather impressive start I'd say they're one of the surprise stories of the season so far would you agree I would would but they've been crashing back to Earth a little bit the Miami Dolphins put a scare into them and that's never a good sign and then they come into the next game against Philadelphia via also at home and they got destroyed thirty one to thirteen so it looks as though the bills are on their way to the playoffs but bills fans have seen in this before I don't know tim you sound like a jaded buffalo sports reporter I've seen this before I've seen this act once or twice all right so tim we're here today to talk about a little known player named scenarist Perry who is doing something I don't know bold strange he's wearing OJ Simpson's number thirty two Jersey can you just tell us a little bit about his background Sonora Perry was born in September nineteen ninety one so he he was only two years old when the Bronco Chase happened and he never saw Oj Simpson play but he is a running back it's by definition but he's a special teams player and he's a very good special teams player what what was the adjustment like for you going from a guy who was running back his whole career to hemming and cried and special teams was there did you have to rewire your brain a little bit oh she was still football football play you could do anything and it's not me rewire my mind I always do especially my whole life when you as a high school you would wanna go our now trying to kill people like me I feel like I'm GonNa Kamikaze sometimes on kickoff and the bill signed him as a free agent this off season for that reason he he was an undrafted player out of Louisville and has just a handful of carries in the NFL but he has worn thirty two his entire life life California my whole life and my grandfather was twenty three and twenty three backwards thirty two so my uncle's decided to start win thirty two I think they look great thanks coming I felt like it was something for family like it meant a whole lot so and he wore it when Sonora Perry was with the Chicago bears he wore number thirty to want to wear it with the Miami Dolphins but Kenyan drake already had it and so he he comes to the buffalo bills how did the conversation happened in Buffalo when it came time for you to pick a number I didn't really have a conversation it was more so it was more so hey we have thirty two available and I wasn't it wasn't no second option to meals more so okay yeah that number and the back of my head I thought it was retired but just went ahead and let it go as ill conceived of Eli Okay I'm willing to ended and Tim for those who don't know or don't remember just remind us how good of a football player was Oj Simpson and what did he mean to the city of Buffalo Hello he was the first nationally known superstar in Buffalo Sports the lead the NFL and rushing four times he led the NFL and rushing touchdowns twice and of course becoming the first running back to surpassed ask two thousand yards J. O. J. running to the last corner to thirty eight hundred five hundred twenty does that he broke the record they are while he's playing in buffalo is on on Monday night football as a as a broadcaster he is doing the Olympics he is in national commercial campaigns like hurts nobody has more of what it takes to get you into TV or other by car he is in in buffalo at that time was something that really took this town by storm and he is still remembered in those terms by a lot of people in this area so OJ plays a total of nine seasons with the buffalo bills then spends a couple of more or less forgettable seasons with the San Francisco Forty niners and then retires tires in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine so at that time what do the Buffalo Bills do with his Jersey number the buffalo bills took OJ Simpson's Jersey out of circulation Galatian and it was never to be worn again and that decision was presumably made by the bills owner Ralph Wilson what was Oj Simpson's relationship with Wilson like it was a complicated complicated relationship while he was still playing for the bills because OJ was frustrated that a lot of quality teammates were not sticking around because the bills were trading them or letting them walk in Free Agency according to what O. J. Simpson told me Ralph Wilson has said to him why would what I want to get to the playoffs because then I have to pay everybody if we don't make the playoffs I only have to pay you. OJ If we get really good then I have to pay everybody you made it an awful lot of money with OJ Simpson but had an affinity for him as a person and clearly respected him and and he was a beloved player so they take his his jersey out of circulation no one is allowed to wear OJ Simpson's number thirty two for years after he leaves the bills and then of course in one thousand nine hundred four we all know what happened happened on June Seventeenth Nineteen ninety-four OJ Simpson became the most famous fugitive on the planet lease radio you know saying that Simpson the passenger in the car has a gun at his head do you have a sense for how the city of Buffalo and maybe bills els fans in particular responded to that trial when it was happening given OJ's sort of larger than life persona in the city I think there were probably I believe to places where it was more surreal than anywhere else in the first place is in southern California and the other place would be Buffalo New York because Oj Jay throughout his time at USC of course he became a star in Los Angeles and he remained a star in Los Angeles doing movies. I hi you Buddy Hackett is this week and back on the voice was always a half L. A. Half Buffalo and and so they're still a little bit of detachment but this is where OJ Simpson played his in the NFL this OJ Simpson is wearing during buffalo bills gear on the cover of sports illustrated OJ Simpson is wearing buffalo bills gear on national television he brought a lot of pride ride to buffalo there was a tourism campaign at one point in Buffalo which people still say today and Oj still says it he has been on my radio show and he will always say when he first comes on buffalo talk and proud talking proud was the thing that buffalo did as part of its you know inferiority the already complex it's near Toronto there's a second city element to Buffalo always trying to you know the steel mills are closing at this time buffalo had a lot of hard times and went it through so much turmoil but Oj Simpson was there and on Sundays he was one of the main reasons the main reason was where you could talk proud about the buffalo they wanted to carry it again and so you take it back to a time in which people are losing losing their jobs all over the place the economy is falling apart of the first stages of what becomes the rust belt is happening all around but Oj Simpson going to rush for one hundred and eighty yards on Sunday and maybe the bills are going to win so he brought a lot of pride to the people of Western New York and to see what was happening happening and the Bronco Chase is everybody was riveted to their televisions it was yeah it was surreal so if you've ever needed a higher for your business you know that it can be a slow and painful process but not with ziprecruiter that's cafe alturas a COO Dylan Moskowitz turned to Ziprecruiter when he needed to hire a director of coffee for his organic coffee company Ziprecruiter identifies people with the right experience so you get qualified candidates fast dillon also used their candidate rating feature to filter his applicants so you could focus on the most relevant ones and that's how he found his new director of coffee in just a few days with results like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day seaway ziprecruiter is effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free at our web address ziprecruiter DOT COM mm-hmm slash lead it's also a great way to support our show that ziprecruiter dot com slash L. E. A. D. ziprecruiter dot com slash lead ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire it seems like after all of that goes down the bills have a really difficult decision to make if they keep OJ's number out of circulation than it looks like they're continuing to honor him but if they put his number back into circulation than it kind of reminds everyone of OJ right well at this time Oj Simpson's thirty two has been out of circulation for sixteen years and it's easy to maintain the status quo his thirty two you and his name is on the bills wall of fame inside the stadium his bronze bust is at the pro football hall of fame Canton his thirty two is retired at USC Jay has been inducted into the college football hall of fame and is the first buffalo bills to be honored in the pro pro football hall of fame OJ Simpson ever in shrine in the greater buffalo sports the and I should point out that none of these organizations the NFL Hall of fame the College Football Hall of fame or USC who retired his number none of them have made any changes either no one has withdrawn his membership or dishonored him in any way best right and I think really there is strength in the numbers I guess it makes it easier when nobody else does it now the pro football hall of fame very quickly came out and said we are not going to remove OJ Simpson's bust we're not going going to strip him of his hall of fame membership and I think once the pro football hall of fame does that it allows the other organizations the buffalo bills included to say well they're not GonNa do it we don't have to step up and do it either kind of gets everybody off the hook and especially in buffalo where people do remember him as a football player where his name is still on the wall of fame where people still have his Jersey you will see hundreds of people wearing number thirty two simpson jerseys in the stands on Sunday afternoons for a bills home game and it's not being done ironically it's not being done to be you know to try to be funny it's you know there are people who remember him as the greatest buffalo bill ever so there are a lot of people who believed that you can still separate the art from the artist and we're talking about it lately with R Kelly or with Michael Jackson people who are willing to separate OJ Jason Art which was a beautiful running back from who he is as a person who many people believe he is as a person what was OJ's relationship elation ship with the bills like after he retired and after the homicide trial in retirement OJ Simpson Ralph Wilson became friends he would be shown at the Games that he would come in quietly or at least try to be but inevitably somebody would take his picture sitting in a in a suite everybody knew that he was he was there as the guest of the Buffalo Bills and I think that you can see Ralph Wilson's respect for Oj Simpson over the years not even after the double murder trial and all of the controversy that OJ Simpson has created in his infamy In that Ralph Wilson always refused to give out number thirty two he would not let anybody else where it and that was something that he had told people is all right when I'm dead you you can do whatever you want with number thirty two but as long as I'm alive and I'm the owner of the buffalo bills nobody else will ever wear that Jersey Loss Mr Wilson is going to be felt for a long on long time for Wilson the bills organization was his fam- Ralph Wilson then died in two thousand fourteen and yet OJ's number continued to stay out of of circulation so what do you know about the decision behind that status quo and to come in as new owners TERI and Kim Gula and all of a sudden just make it available I think what the bills were doing we're wait was waiting for somebody to ask for it and Sonora Perry said he wanted wanted to wear number thirty two said he could wear since then told the athletic whatever they do is fine with me and I should say hey this decision hasn't been the most popular why would you give it out because we're having a discussion about Oj it which we shouldn't be having the discussion about Oj and my questionnaires young man why would you want this dirty and tim what it's North Perry tell you about his decision to wear number thirty two does even associated with Oj Simpson scenarist Perry I think had to really haven't explained to him before okay before we make this official you do know everything about Oj Simpson what he meant meant to this organization on as a football player what he's meant as a touchstone really in history but I never knew any of this into two I got older which is in high school when I started really understanding because I just went thirty two does my uncle's word and what's been the reaction among fans it has it generated a buzz at all or is it sort of just been flying under the radar it has flown under the radar and what his muted this story to a a large degree is that Sonora

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Fantasy Football Mock Draft

Sports Gambling Podcast

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Fantasy Football Mock Draft

"His fantasy football mock draft edition of the sports gaming podcast is presented by my bookie dot agee my bookie dot ag juicy of fischel online sportsbook at the sports gaming podcast use that promo code sdp fifteen get a fifty percent by the bonus play win get paid also brought to you by amazon logo sports gaming packets are common could be amazon banner bookmarked at lincoln using everytime you shop the score sweet savings would support the podcast no no whoa everyone to the sports gambling podcasts i'm sean stacking the vix ryan real money kramer kramer a you're a lefty so i got to imagine that first base their home plate empire calling the puck right there really value you threw me off the you're a pause and our thrown yet trump pretty sure you're moving towards the plate though so i'm gonna take first base right this is but this is what the pre season is all about right were getting reps in were figure it out okay the ins and outs the mechanics because we're all be powering through god knows how much football content coming up in what better time to get starting to get ready this is this is are preseason this is pre season for the refs to we gotta figure this thing out weiner so i'm in i'm in minutes i'm doing that this is my first mock draft doing it really doing it on the podcast doing much now ryan you've already done any number of mock drafts you've already done a number of real f f pc drafts you're had verse i i'm i'm raw dog i did research i did some research for the top ten lists didn't take much for me the no the carson wentz is the number one overall quarterback for my fantasy football and you only researcher own list no i looked at other guys lists a bunch of square jobber listen like okay these lists are garbage let me come in with a good list you're gonna get all those a top ten lists those are all available on i tunes google play spotify sports gaming podcast dot com end you to wear on you to right now if you're watching you don't you don't 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fantasy network but before we bring on day we got asarco pals over at my bookie dot h sound the call my bookie dot ag you'd be a show all unfortunately lease for game five get this year they're doing the nfl super contest we know what the super contest is right at three pick five games each week against the spread my bookie venture is only a hundred dollars in first place guaranteed at least one hundred thousand dollars all these entry every hundred dollars better entered into the my bookie prize pool is going back to the contestants there is no big no juice very generous ever pals over at my bookie dot aj i if my bookie dot edu slash slash super contests and while you're going there while you're joining me hunter dollar super contests why not make that initial deposit use that promo code f g p fifty fit that extra bonus deposit fifty percent s g p fifty play wins and most importantly you pay kramer over at my bookie dot h g because the juice use of course cannot be paid anymore right joining us on the line from the fantasy radio network dean martine is dan what's happening man a goal of how you guys doing great man just a oh yeah i yeah i was just thinking about how pissed off i get all the soccer nonsense yeah it has been a lot of soccer last little move better go all in on women's soccer first days dark times but i just remember like three years ago how pissed off i was when the hall of fame game got cancelled 'cause they painted the field i all of a sudden they're like oh yeah of all the things to worry about with players safety oh they feel they're gonna be and i'm just so pissed because july is football football in july that's a big thing going on here on the podcast which just happened in early no need to wait till august they just get into it man no absolutely it'll be there for you know you gotta talk about it when the players away because when they come back and they'll all have suspensions and all that i will that's one thing now we've already we've started with some of our fantasy stuff doing are top ten lists an and stuff like that what's your take on this tyree kill situation we haven't seen anything as far as how many games he's gonna be out what you're what you're gas 'em well i think the last thing i saw them say that it would be a maximum mom of four games but as we know nfl is ridiculously inconsistent right so who knows what it will be i just want from a fantasy perspective from a cold heart fancy protect i just would want it to happen earlier on i suppose having a hangover over like you did would seek that one season and it wound up being in the fantasy playoffs that he actually miss games i i still to this to this day about a year ago almost i was in an auction draft in las vegas and a pc and i watched the guy spend forty eight dollars on levy on bell right that's the kind of bullshit that happened when you let us linger like have some decency let us know before training like just let us know exactly slum go is he's gonna miss four games which you know i know if you saw sean but the full audio of the conversation from the dubai airport was released today the voicemail yeah i i have not listened to this but it's essentially it adds context of that earlier clip it they played anyway it sounds like he's definitely gonna miss time it would be nice to win because i gotta be honest sean in the best ball draft participating in he's still going in the fourth round so people are insane yeah well to me i just wanna know damian williams the more i think about the more i just i i'm getting that andy reid often said no tyree kill he's gonna be steal all the screen from it i i'm just salivating at the chance the draft damian williams well so thing we should just get to it i know enough messing around go all right so were were were gonna we're gonna do a mock draft it's just gonna be three of us and computers yes i have it rent it's gonna randomize yeah that'll be the computers to we are leveraging dancer based platform is a they will randomize are picks and with a quick start draft it should a put us all into eight draft will see what we get growing their yup on the draft is going to start in thirty seconds i have the six pick oh this is great we have as a to pick six picking a nine pick so a little bit old outplay spread out there we go all right then you have the the nine i have the six showed us the second a guy i guess showing you asked me before the show said hey are you gonna just just go in this in this blind or whatever you know rod dogging it i've done like twenty five real giraffes already right has just been crank it out ftc dress okay also out here see sean you're faced with of right away jelly it's there and i would never do it exactly that's disgusting their day off the board with the computers ciclon barkley i'm sitting at number two here a man and i hate christian mccaffrey this is not a good spot for me to be in the draft this is this is horrible well sean if you're the pull up my power rankings are my my my list you would know that that's why i put kamar second so i wouldn't have to face this exact decision a all right i was so worried this would take awhile and he's already gonna use the full senate back while i'm i i you know what i'm putting my feelings aside i'm drafting christian mccaffrey learn overall all right let's see who else is off the board zeke goes number three kamar number four hopkins number five kramer you're on the clock number six one i'm i'm faced with that interesting decision that we discussed and i mentioned that this wasn't a pc league i'm pulling the trigger on travis kelsey here that loan with the one and a half points now and that's a huge point like the settings incredibly matter that's like yeah number one so i said okay i wouldn't say where it went chelsea kiddle hurts like three in a row in the first round damn him so crazy said he should own is a step should point out we're doing a standard a p pr one quarterback to running backs to wide receivers one tight end one flex we did not include kickers in defense i apologized staying if you're a big kicker dan it's okay if they think but i absolutely am i am in a tough spot and i'm going to stick to my guns and i'm gonna take the vantera adams here wow i love his upside this year and at that point i'm balancing do i want one of these running backs do i want my number one wide receiver i went with a number one wide receiver dan you're on the clock yeah computer computer went a little crazy they're living wills seven overall that computer odell beckham junior number hurry in now dane seon here at number nine so in this situation because the two wideouts are gone which would be de hop end avante adams right i would consider kelsey but i think it's a little too early for me to do that so i'm gonna go with the top running back left here and for me that is probably gonna be melvin gordon here which is i guess the chaki pick i could understand going kelsey but i feel like if don't go running back here i won't get one of the top guys coming back and this year i wanna make sure i get one of those top guys so it's gonna be melvin gordon i agree with that i definitely like that angle because i think as we broke down the running backs i pointed out i feel like they're six of them like there's there's a there's a top five x and then you kind of do want one of those but you know i guess we'll see where it lands there's some guys i'm targeting but you're back on the clock saying yeah agra melvin gordon todd gurley a david johnson michael thomas ju ju who leo and damian williams my boy off the board listen so kelsey is still here from cedar that's a nice holiday kelsey here right and i'm excited to do so if yeah that that's the end devi analysis here anytime you get a guy you were considering the round before that is still there that represents some value let's do it a specially if you're in some of these tight end bonus leagues which are all over the place and honestly he has a chance the finishes the number one overall receiver this year wow yeah okay and how much time tyreek hill mrs what what happened next james connor goes to the computer joe mixon off the board now kramer saying well no clock back in a very very difficult position once those were the two guys i always figured i'd get one of those guys i get neither of those guys damian williams also off the board yup do i just absolutely punt i don't think i do because because i'm high enough on dalvin cook in this spot who i want that stood receipt a running back he has upside to me for the pass catching ability we saw we've seen what he can do in accident is a guy that i would've taken here if i had the spot but i love you he just one he's just went i he was targeted him encounter no bullshit fight a i would i think dalvand cook is right behind him so i'm gonna pull the trigger i do wanna have a guy a two way running back who's gonna give me some upside sean yup i'm up next ed in tonio brown just went don't want anything to do with him nick chubb my kevin like the word interesting here i could a running back nothing really jumping out at me you know you're gonna pull the trigger on factor saint louis thirty all right a maybe look for hill you know oh hey zach ertz is back hurts is here definitely much better the shitty george kiddle gimme zacher has been a world cup winning superior orange earlier zach ertz i'm with you on the kid aligned go by the way right you know he had dj be hard as his roommate quarterback last year so much many options he will regret from his nfl record's like yards whatever it was you know what i mean like he's in that tier below them with hunter henry in oj howard in my opinion is the top suicide on to ryan this have on the show guy knows where amazon gave it up people do agree with you i like it so george kiddle well right after spin marlin mac and now i i kinda got a question do i need a receiver i feel like at this point what do i do keenan allen available t y hilton aj green like kind of like but i i feel like it's too early the take him aj green is you know over thirty you haven't finished the last couple of seasons it's not gonna be good in cincinnati this you gotta take keenan allen yeah i'll go keenan allen from a boy san diego chargers justin decker i would have absolutely gone that angle is well so now feelings off the board oj howard off the board mahomes quarterback drafted did kramer you're on the clock gotta wait on quarterback this year every year at this point it's even more then this is the byproduct of a passing league in the nfl you know like it's not a big deal to throw over forty two hundred yards anymore so so you can get any body later on like be the last person in your league to get a quarterback specially in a standard twelve team league i think we're playing basketball and you gotta stack quarterbacks it's a little more voted early but rather two quarterback league okay get one still so here's the thing i think i'd jinxed my fantasy existence this year when i said that leonard for net has been in my perpetual do not enter apple it continues to be available to me in the third round where i can now go stud receiver dalvand cook leonard for net yes please 'em i to me taking leonard fournette and the third round is okay because he has upside to score as he number one running back every week as long as he's on the field litter furniture after by kramer then aj green tyreek hill oh not redoes now a gain back on the clock here yeah listen so i went a tight end end running back so i'm gonna get my number one wide out it's gonna b t y hilton man listen this is tied to the indianapolis colts i think andrew luck is a nice bed at eight to one i think he's a second choice to win the mvp of the league this year last year he was healthy with andrew luck t y hilton led the nfl nfl in receiving yards you know what i mean there's no like funches is just the red zone guy you know they're building that team the right way i think t y hilton is a legit wide receiver one fear fantasy team but he got him in the third round and not to mention again calling it out 'cause i liked the call but for best ball specifically he's the guy you love when he goes oh yeah go off yeah he'll have the game you'll have a game this year of like six foot one sixty one and two touchdowns guaranteed oh at least one mari cooper off the board vonda freeman off the board born a boy any luck aaron jones stefan digs brandin cooks and now next up is a danger back on the clock here what do you look in the go for yeah listen this is a guy i know you also liked and i'm not only on you're a guy sean because i'm down on the damian williams things you guys both like but i'm taking kerryon johnson love commentary oh this guy okay i think theo riddick is not gonna be on the roster and kerryon johnson will catch fifty five sixty balls this year and that's the difference i love kerryon johnson it'll be my rv to i'm so glad were doing video now and i'm gonna look at the camera that sean is i'm bill is up primary sean ladder with his hot kerryon johnson week one against arizona against that cliff kingsbury defense oh is he found in my dfs lineup okay edelman josh jacobs sorry a what what'd you say oh just saying his yards per carry ridiculous like i don't believe in c j anderson even worse on the garrett blunt last year taking carries and i've the key here is i don't think theo riddick is gonna even make the roster in detroit the shoe i i could see that happening about retirement and so edelman and josh jacobs off the board that those are sirens 'cause i am recording in washington i hear the sirens in the background dame's gonna get carted away and still be making his picks kramer you're on the clock year round four picks seven what do you do in forty third pick overall well i probably should go receiver a pass catcher of some sort but a guy you like a guy i agree with you is going to overperform i'm gonna give myself a little bit bye week problem but philip lindsay i also have the concerns of injury from my other two running backs i wanna make sure i'm sean strong their shirt to buy week ten guys i'll deal with that week ten i'm gonna add philip lindsay to my stable of work horses shown so he's off the board derrick henry next dairies guys robert woods i don't really want much do with those guys i have a receiver i have a tight end i have a running back again kind of you kind of go bp hey here you and gentleman with the best player available oh you know who i like and i made a case where this guy in that is of the tampa bay buccaneers and chris godwin yeah i i read and read aeriens bruna oprah article with that offense he's gonna he's gonna talk that james winston talk little tap into him yeah i love all those guys mike evans oj howard level all there's no running game to speak of they're gonna throw throw throw there is a there is a cool static came i came across it said in the past fourteen season where bruce arians was either office of coordinator head coach they had two or more of receivers with hunter plus targets so mike evans is gonna get his noticed sean jackson god would just seems like the natural progression there yeah seems like a great opportunity that pick is gone up yeah so wait i'm back on the clock kenny golladay is off dj more do i go sony michelle i don't i can't fuck around with new england running backs who just can't do it yeah he's also a guy who a is better in saying standard non pbr formats yeah okay you know it's another kind of know you're settings guy he's much better and you're non pbr a format as well is like say carson or some of your other plotters that'll be good on early downs so sean you you definitely need to go running back here that's probably i would you mind if i'm if i'm getting in your ear and giving you advice i pause the draft disclosure sean clearly he's a little bit right now he's got very excited about being agreed with but he's also not sure where i live here okay he's gotta go running back yeah go running back sean in you know i'm gonna give you i'll give you a nugget here 'cause yeah so i don't know if there's a guy with the who's left with a better opportunity say what you will about kenyan drake who else is touching the ball in miami yeah you're he every now number one running back yeah yeah i'm over thinking this 'cause i was kind of like mark ingram here i really do they are gonna be a running offense he's got no one really do it you don't believe in kenneth dixon you know they gonna get a lot of carries he's he's a lot better than people think 'cause he's always split i'm in new orleans they went out and spent money on him and they're gonna be a definite running off and i like barking and the get over a thousand yards this year he's another option in this spot groom and i'll throw this the sean i i'll go oh go mark ingram i like that but i'll say justice hill who just well it's one round drive it over here i was thinking of maybe reaching chris carson rishaad penny but i think you get the guy who's the clear number one mark ingram and now things have fallen just beautifully because while i will neglecting the receiver position for another round because i think there will be opportunity here especially in standard twelve team you twelve team league like this my one of my top tight ends who is still available hunter henry oh yeah i just like the potential there absolutely has the ability to creep near that it's i mean taking you're tiers further with the emergence of god or it's probably kelsey and then the rest of the humans who has the ability to pop up ended that class i think hunter henry absolutely does so at this late fifth round i'm gonna add him my stable weapons okay so after i took marking the shawn watson tyler lockett sony michelle kramer took hunter henry baker mayfield under the computer by look this is why you wait on quarterback look at the people who are going right now you get leader running backs you get good tight end you could approximated baker mayfield's production three four rounds from now aaron aaron rodgers is on the board and the computer was you see it's all about value over like late stupid fucking the david montgomery also off the board andy dane you're pick here fifty seventh overall what do you doing yeah listen i'm gonna take i'm gonna go wide out here i have two running backs ready i only have t y hilton i'm gonna go cooper cup here my listen the ramp this i think is the best value okay he's going the third of the three rams he clearly is he apple of a gop side right meant a i i think he on any given week can be the highest scoring rams wide receiver especially npr settings he's gonna leave the team in catches in my opinion in in when he was heard they're they're often really wasn't the game is critical cock of their often all of the rams i feel like both him in would have a nice for not the highest ceiling but a very nice or so at this point in the draft it's absolutely nice having a guy like that so short after cooper cup aaron aaron rodgers al sean jeffrey kenyan drake allen robinson evan ingram calvin ridley all off the board dane you're back on the clock sean i'm gonna leave to recall in out there for you at lakeview at here's what i'm guys running backs in this kind of spot give me a pass catching running back okay james white is on the board we were talking before about the patriots running backs and i understand but the most consistent thing for the patriots running back is that james white will catch balls okay and that's easy points right there i'll take him as my third running back all day long cherokee brown off the board sammy watkins damn i i would have liked to maybe get a little a chance of him and they're both off kramer you're on the board or you're on the clock i was i was really hoping really hoping to snag sammy watkins yeah but he is also eight punk ass bitch yes this thing is suggesting i should take jarvis landry plus some sean lesson i ain't taking over swam best friends that turncoat odell beckham and go back to my loss angeles chargers because your it is you know what philip rivers wackadoo he likes to throw the ball to big receivers mike williams i really came on a night high real williams i know i'm going double dip in a veteran hunter henry though that's fine that often it's gotta be able to support eight pass attack not to mention oh my gosh sean in by weeks of ten eleven twelve so i'm really deferring the hey there i'm a quick starter hey you got the playoffs and you're putting the rest there you go shot you are now on the clock jarvis landry off tyler boyd off the board chris carson carson hector not bad so i'm i'm looking around here i go again go what do i do here i could go running back tiki receiver measure fantasy coach and we pop over here you're pretty open you can do anything you wanna hear sean yep yeah then you i i fell in love with this man couple of years ago give me i own my old time i left for you then i think you i appreciate that so that's the 'perfect row flex yeah well he's on the board then robbie anderson matt ryan both off the board directing the quarterback drafted a quarterback here no i think like dana said you'd probably just wait right yeah there's so many still left yeah there really is like well you know it's a long time from now don't wanna mess around left ago yeah i always get a kick her or defense shown so scratch that that partier cheat sheet off yep all right let's see do i go i like some of the receivers available right now you know what yeah will fuller a i mean i like he's that andre hopkins in in criminal probably probably reminder said he's better in a best ball a scenario but this late in the draft round seven seventy fourth overall hopkins's had some injury issues i maybe i get lucky but yeah gimme will fuller okay will fuller off the board now dante dante pettis is well rusty will he's out corey davis and we talk about computer number five you make that a former first round pick corey davis so i'm at the position should i have filled out i have dalvin cook leonard for net philip lindsay a democracy adams mike williams hunter henry i guess i could go in get some more depth here at the wide receiver position i am very intrigued by marvin jones this year i feeling these going way too late in some of these leagues sham new no ryan sham new also out there i'm waiting on quarterback i am gonna take are are man danes advice on that front you know what i think the league in i'm enticed by marvin jones enough with how he's going this year to grab him because i think he gives me some fairly safe depth an while golladay is the the sexier pick i feel like they're gonna have similar production even get jones a couple of rounds later okay marvin jones selected by kramer then sterling shepherd cam newton man back the game in what he's doing here listen you know i also wanna build at the wide receiver position i don't like some of the guys that are being suggested to me like golden the date or cortlandt sutton i told you guys that i think a day sean hamilton is the diamond in there yeah i'm intrigued by christian kirk this year someone you know fitzy is gonna declined a little bit more kirk kirk end cuyler murray were both at texas saying i'm together which is interesting they used to play together they know each other and kirk was good as a rookie 'em he's the guy that these guys were giving me as i look if we could pause it that will be good oh of course a year draft commissioner has a thank you thank you thank you i i would look at the running back real quick as the correct thing and this is something that you'll hear people were peter endlessly but the just the fact that they will probably probably be running ten to fifteen more plays per game yet this year mass all over there a guy more intriguing so absolute you know i like it i may go there i just wanna see what the running backs are meeting getting the third running back or third wideout were going back and forth at this point in the draft this is the benefit of waiting on quarterback right lamar miller sucks i'm not going his way 'em you know f it gives me a gimme christian kirk i'm gonna i'm gonna go and gergen earlier then i think i would wanna do it but you know i gotta i gotta believe what i say right and i believe in this connection i think he takes a step forward i think what the new offense like you said more place ron and a real need wide receiver in arizona the next beat hard and kendall garbage exactly the garbage in you as well dan is going to have that will be someplace unfortunately they will also be a lot of three and outs yeah i'm in that same mindset there's gonna be opportunity that's for sure okay yeah so i am sorry i don't doubt i doubt did not resilient go commissioner it's happening now that i will say i am as we were talking this is the time of the draft where you do kind of have to start stabbing at opinions yeah i wouldn't want the best kind of opinion is the guy that you're you're gonna know week one you're gonna know right away it's not gonna be the oh i needed injury or not letting draft christian kirk but will see what happens it it it's gonna let you drive right now 'em up all right there you go we got we got the mock draft a technical issues that's cool it's usually good right is take a lot of anzalone out good okay one senate a fantasy basketball drafted joel prison below when number one overall but i was in because it was like alphabetically next like shaquille o'neal oh no oh my god saturday greg nightmares oh yeah okay so now officially christian kirk off the board then we see golden tate no kirkland what god damn here realistic vegas which quarterback see you can't wait on a quarterback quarterback carson one guy where your eyes larry fitzgerald cortlandt sutton tevin coleman di di west broken dane back to you what do you would act back into yet only eighteen i don't have a quarterback you told us hysterical all this time i'm gonna go running back listen i expect i expect a little jump from rishaad penny this you grow up they talk about his in better shape the fumbling not there he's a guy who's like his yards per touch were ridiculous they got a lot of opportunities they run the ball that's what they wanna do i you know carson has been all right but he's kind of just the guy on some level level so a i'll take a stab at penny on a second year a second you jump lamar miller off mikhail horry is also off kramer you're entering its i like he's going he's he's really skyrocketed up the mock draft boards i'll tell what you mentioned bruce arians earlier and you mentioned the fact that there wouldn't be a bunch of a running game i think i disagree a little bit and i'm gonna reach here for it i'm taking ronald jones i wanna get a fourth running back and i know i'm i'm stretching here but if ronald jones is a guy we we remember what david johnson once did with this man that he's getting a clean bill of health that was kind of in the doghouse with dirk cutter and a yeah i i really really like ronald jones i'm gonna have a ton of him i just feel it he's climbing up the the drop or does well in joke you off the board next kiki qt or like that emmanuel sanders there on the border ron emmanuel sanders a grammar i don't i think he's gonna be on the pup list i really do like ethnic killings he's over thirty years old yeah i'm i'm scared of sanders i i would it's an opportunity thing and i think that's actually gonna play where you can be like well cool he's on the pup list and dropping you if you're drafting early you can kind of lottery him now i i totally get the stance of staying away but i do think it this round he's being drafted amongst other lottery tickets so it's okay i'm gonna say fuck it i'm worried about quarterback right now 'cause i missed out on half give me give me the moment himself drew brees wow yeah fuck it he's in a dome then jordan howard eagles of valdez scantly a then that's interesting seattle so i raise up to in green bay listen in green bay is gonna be an f you mode any if he's number two overdraw tumble allison that's a that's a legit week to week started that she would have there and i think he will be and i think right now allison's being drafted ahead of him typically in this mock draft computer number one one very intelligent taking all the scammer charlotte is the this is an interesting player for me because i kinda don't have any i don't have any glaring needs for my team i'm gonna take a shot here i think it's just it's just they a a target thing with jesse james out with antonio brown out i think i asked mcdonald is gonna get involved in the passing game a lot i'm a man loves twelve personnel even a fantasy gimme vance mcdonald you watch steph on the fuck out of people to do they love him there they love him in that they can they do and there's a lot of targets to go around there yeah in touch them through red zone opportunities jared cook off the board next adam humphreys miles sanders again the eagles back who could be be like legit workhorse back it's his progress is kind of held up because of a soft his hamstring which is which is never great sign but maybe take shot on him kramer what do you do in here list shawn mccoy still availed i don't eat any you you could talk all the way down to five seconds is this is obvious we and we just touched on it but bruce arians is a man who loves the chuck the rock how am i not fake taken jameis winston around here yeah gimme that action a yeah my my team might have some character concerns off the field but this is fantasy football so i love waiting and grabbing jamus what were the last team to grab a quarterback they do it right now so here's here's here's something you could just go ahead and go i was just gonna say the fact that i pretty eleventh quarterbacking snag jamus right then yes please yeah yeah and then actually trey burton lord hines off the board dane on the clock sounds like he's going to be here yeah i got the thing here's what you could do also when you wait on qb one of the things to do is get two of them right lying in this kind of thing i might get you from and i might go what the serious get one kind of safe guy and then one upside guy and this might be and you're to quarterback leads right you still get a safe guy like right now big ben is still out there you could still get upside guy right now cuyler murray is still out there but you know jared goff's still out there so it's real dominant still safe right here i'll take big ben yeah big ben led the nfl in passing last year over five thousand yard formats he was acting like you'll be two or three yeah i think he's got one one great year left in the tank at least fantasy wise production he's gotta prove that it was actually amy and left that with hassles and not him or at least one year in any any got ju ju i think this is to do breakout year if he hadn't broken out already but huge year for juju so austin hooper daryl henderson chris herndon the fourth latavius murray kareem hunt who the shawn mccoy who their own off with hunter and twelve overall pick dane where you going here yeah you know in san francisco these running backs are interesting you know they signed tevin coleman they got jerick mckinnon coming back i like jerick mckinnon this year i think he's the guy who's gonna leading targets for that team and you've never seen tevin coleman and really handle the load i think this often will support you running backs i liked the pass catcher give me jerick mckinnon and i will say this mckinnon was going in the tail end of the first second round last year in fm back and forth it's out beforehand injury and it's the tenth round it's the tenth round ended the shanahan oftens i love taking a stab at one of these guys you know they brought tevin coleman over to play the tevin coleman role in the shanahan and a hand off and that means mckinnon could be the dante frame enroll greta brita would be x factor right back to me yeah royce freeman off the board deanza forming off the board kramer here's what i wanna do and i i this is probably where i'm kind of falling off the wagon a little bit well because i wanna stand even pointed out and then take to sure you may have concerns about james winston i really like them but you know what i wanna see i wanna see what happens week one with cuyler murray herited so i've now drafted ninth and tenth ranked court i just wanna see what because at the end of the day this spent spot is it it's gonna go way you're not gonna doesn't it sure you probably shouldn't grab a backup running back but there's gonna be so much movement i want if tyler murray goes out there and drops forty because he's running front yard you wanna be a part of it around canal in trade that astore it's all about it's all about the process sean anyway the process i also just wanna make sure we talked about cuyler because sean loves the name so horrific now europe sean two rounds to go one and a half around for you or three rounds two rounds russ you know what the my man bruce arians says no risk it no biscuit i'm gonna risk get deep ball threat still some speed left going into way into a a great offensive situation he's coming out gimme the sean jackson i mean it's pretty pretty the shot equal kota got gotta get some so in dallas goddard potential to yeah those yeah you're keeping that's right this is actually how sean will draft is fantasy teams i i reached times i missed the years of mcnabb being a first term great okay arguing on your back now in the alarm gonna take a third tired of you can't say not reach a deal loose matt brita are off the board i'm gonna go to buffalo i don't think frank or la shawn mccoy do enough of this bills team week five weeks six devon single terry could be the guy buffalo needs the run the ball they need a give josh allen some options i the draft in third overall he could real boom potentially give me devon single they have tj yeldan also which is also interesting yeah okay because he's a guy like you know he's a service will pass catching back i agree with you on shady and gore but don't sleep sleep on yeldan like very serviceable as an nfl back there's also the element of if you're doing a pre training camp draft this is the kind of late round pick you want it's a bullet so yeah it could be a starting running back ready yeah his upside is that he's hitting the majority of the carries on a team that's gonna run the ball yeah could be on the houston texans and among i read something from the buffalo newspaper said he's splitting first team reps with gore and the shawn mccoy which is a good sign but again it's insanely early like ito smith duke johnson an eight p m p they're all off the board kramer what do you do in dj more went along time ago curtis samuel still there you know i'm a little higher on cam newton most again this is more of a why why is he he's going with guys who don't have the opportunity that he will while the more fun take maybe here's go john brown and say he's gonna get his deep ball mojo back with josh allen concealing josh allen can do i'm gonna stick to the safer pick curtis samuel then you are now on the clock i like it and then just for reference guys 'cause i'm gonna go the second quarterback also remember i said safe and upside right i already had big ben jesper no were going into like the last round of the draft philip rivers still available has another option okay jared goff whether you if you like these rams wide receivers and you think girly has arthritis they're gonna throw the ball you know like available in the last round the fucking draft okay and say oh yeah so but because i when a safe with ben give me fucking lamar jackson as you know like quarterback okay why not yeah those six week diners monetary yes sorry this step on you there but i i i read sat there he was a top seven or top five fantasy quarterback those six weeks you start it now will see continues but it's worth a shot and really what safest sixty rushing yards in the game you know what that is on like it's ridiculous and people don't realize just how much of an impact forget him josh allen was like qb seven for the second half of the year on the strength of a similar running game with trubisky the same stuff you're back on the cartoon yep so i need another wideout so that's where i'm going i go to the wideouts spots of these guys here i said it before give me day sean hamilton he guy okay i think sanders on the puppy got a ton of targets in december cortlandt sutton it'll be on the outside joe flacco is not throwing the ball downfield like here's the thing also crepe even if sanders isn't on the pop he's gonna not be able to build chemistry with flacco in training camp in the pre season you know he won't be on the field then he'll be on the day sean hamilton is the one who will be building chemistry you know i never like the rookie tight end takes too long for them to grow i think no offense will be okay in dynasty settings but i think day sean hamilton will leave this team in catches he's still there for me i was between for me it was between him and i cannot believe that kenny stills is still there i gotta tell you guys he's gonna be the number one in miami he's the deep proud guy he's over performed his the atp like every single year and here's the thing he's the deep guy we know fitzpatrick will suck it down field who do you think he's chuck it to it's not the same parker it's not anybody else any still go out perform atp also but a i you know i want one day sean 'cause he's like my a he's mike diamond in the rough man i'm gonna throw a even though i would probably say kenny stills here i'm gonna say give me justice to i know we like mark ingram but i think at a minimum justice he'll probably be on the field for the passing work an you never know i mean who mark ingram i like you i happen to like him this year probably a situation where in deeper leagues i'm gonna take both those guys but again you're taking a bulletin dnd we have two picks left in the draft sean literally whole draft as two picks left you are the last pick second elastic who do who goes i think he has they and again this is just like rating local stuff and and and people saying all their chemistry lookout forum and that is from the seattle seahawks david more yeah they're super deep fifty three targets last season i think he has eight he's someone you you drafts probably i'd probably drafted him too high for this sort of draft i'm not gonna drop the backup quarterback to satisfy the algorithm rating system five so to recap my team drew drew brees christian mccaffrey trico and keenan allen chris godwin zach ertz mark ingram on my bench right now will fuller vance mcdonald the sean jackson david more in devon single terry degrade c plus results unresolved i just finished mind and it it just popped up just oh i got it hey no reid off real fear team there dane are all right let's see where do i find that a i got i got it right in front of me okay yeah i got highly rated off yeah guys all right we got a melvin gordon travis kelsey t y hilton kerryon johnson amber cup james white christian kirk rishaad penny big ben jerick mckinnon lamar jackson and hamilton out of denver that's a good team yeah they gave me a day which makes me actually worried about this team if we act the fucking hilarious do it right i was given may be eighty eighty six out of one hundred myron final round learn who i beat you shouldn't be in better shape lost james winston i really liked the running back or dalvin cook for some reason i'm getting higher and higher and leonard for net everyday devonte mike williams hunter henry philip lindsay marvin jones curtis samuel ronald jones justice so in my lottery ticket cuyler murray murray saying don't know what for net with all those guys those running backs that like ten eighteen there's injury questions there's some kind of questions with all of them you know what i mean so why not whichever one you like of that group i actually liked avante freeman you know i know he's banged up all the time but if we liked this atlanta offense then he's gonna get a ton also i mean they're gonna be sketch will not good for you the falcons have thirteen games indoors the year yeah it's a it's absolutely ridiculous them end the packers are two teams in the nfc that i think are gonna be in the playoffs that were last year i'm and i love that schedule for all the falcons for all the falcons jake from a day a dean before we let you go any other any other nuggets just stuff that you were h in the talk about the show and we didn't get to a during the mock draft no not really i think you know we talked about as a kind of played out with things like the the settings a when the tight ends get the bonuses you know that is really the most important thing understand that understand the p pr kind of backs that you might need an definitely the idea of waiting on quarterback we made the point here like you know you could have gotten philip rivers on waivers in this league in a twelve team league you know in the last round and so make sure you stocked up with those running backs those wide receivers if you don't get one of those three tight ends and get the tight end those second tier tight ends the henry's the you know they they ingram's howard's those guys will be just fine but load up on those wide receivers and running backs i will say like the value isn't there in quarterback early but because there's probably only eight ish tight ends it falls off like maybe you do at one invest like that's my take away and doing a lot of these you know the funding about doing all these drafted you kind of see how the formula change based on where you're picking based on who you go with early and what i've found is it's tough to not come away with a star running back early you confined receivers i mean my my team team would would highlight that as i spent three out of my first four picks on running backs i did go demonic them first but man you really wanna get those running backs 'cause it does kind of fall off their gotta get one of those maybe whatever it is whatever the line is for you for me it's joe mixon like whatever eight or nine you're definitely wanna get one of those guys and and i and in the first round even if you're staring at a divine tae adams or who leo jones like the running back you would get on the comeback is probably not the rb one that you want and there's value at the white out later on so i agree i even go eight in a row running back at the top of the draft and with the tight ends though in the ones that i'm doing to your point kramer like i'm winding up with a lot of oj howard hunter henry i even i'm okay with the jared cook that kind of like second tier that probably has four five evan ingram even like that kind of tier because i'm not i got kelsey in this draft because he was staring at me in the second around still but if i'm not getting the kelsey hurts i'm completely comfortable with that hunter henry oj howard tier and i'm getting that you know in the whatever and like fifth or sixth round and that's that's completely comfortable for me what the kid getting the quarterbacks real late and going and going crazy with these running backs but you gotta get you started early on because so many every other team you know has has has and are bbc right so there's very few workhorses these days so you gotta get one up top showing just lit up he's learned a new actress running back by committee that yeah i mean i i think specifically in these types of like home leagues or whatever where you're it's twelve teams shorter bench just yeah there's no value in taking that court like one of your buddies is going to take patrick mahomes in the sec yeah let let it happen let it had on just be ready happy that you're already to ready to go and be stoked you have a quarterback the loves the grab posting a legit all right john yeah you for participating in podcast make sure you follow dana on twitter at speeding speeds end a check him out his show on fantasy radio anything else you wanna throw out there doing now that i have me on again make sure to avoid those four games these men forgot about diamonds only and i think you guys those were tuned in the podcast rate review and share on i tunes for the sports give my pockets i'm sean stacking the multi grain and here's ryan man who gave me such a great word kramer lead yeah right

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Steelers Post-Game: Steelers get "lucky" win as they climb to .500 for the first time this year

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Steelers Post-Game: Steelers get "lucky" win as they climb to .500 for the first time this year

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It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan Pittsburgh steeler fans what's going on this is Jeff Harbin editor of behind the Steel Curtain Dot Com with you for another episode of the steelers postgame show where myself Lance Williams we break down the game and I'm a little excited also a little disappointed in the steelers twenty six twenty four win over the Indianapolis Colts at Heinz Field in week nine that moves their record to foreign four it's their first time at five hundred in two thousand nineteen best their third win in a row that means the believer shirt continues the beard gets a little bit longer and it also means that Lance has his mask on Lance what's up my man how's it going still Mascara us when you see the mask it means it's a good thing in the mask is out before I jump into any of my comments big up to Sherry graph stone. DMZ on twitter set her husband. Kevin Johnstone is from Pittsburgh from the north side listens to the show want to make sure I get that shout out I'm not disappointed at all sometimes you have to win games like this and what's the best thing that you could say after games like this win win and correct ugly yes win win incorrect so some people say two games like these ah go round and round essentially meeting that they've lost their share of games the other way of and I think it's a situation where her they were due to win one of these you think back to two thousand seventeen their year they went thirteen and three day one almost all of these games and now you you had this strange dynamic this year they had turnovers costly turnovers and I told you last before we went on the Air I would jalen Samuels fumbled the football I was fully we expecting this to be another fumble that cost him a game and let's be honest it should have because although there was a third down play and they wouldn't have gotten I down if he holds onto the football it least would have led to a punt and I can't believe I'm GonNa say this Jordan Berry has been very good this year and it would have at least made aided the colts have to drive the length of the field to add to that particular the points I think they hate the fuel go there this touchdown with that turnover every day lance a release so okay so they got points of that tournament we'll put it that way so the steelers they got lucky in a lot of different ways none bigger than the atom Viteri Shank back at the end of the Game Shankar's golf term for when you hit it off the Hazel it does not look like me on the TV what I'm trying to rip and I shake it in its four left baby that's what that looked like Shank Shank as we say on the golf course actually on the golf course you don't say the s word Lord that's that's like a no no you just did he do did you say anything so military's careers coming to an end but it leads to a steelers win like I said at the start started this show is their third straight victory and now they have the Los Angeles Rams coming into town in week ten but we're not going to talk about that at all we're talking specifically about this game lance let's talk about some game balls or winners losers everyone call it I'm going to go I if you don't mind analysts say that this I'm going to say Chris Boswell Qaeda's to that guy why because I've just now I'm just a fan I don't I mean absolutely nothing Mike Tomlin's one that makes decisions on the team I'm starting to get comfortable with him kicking again had that fifty one yarder at the end of the first half aided by a personal foul penalty on the colts was boy was that a confidence booster not only for me but I'm sure for him into he made all of his kicks all of his at point after today Chris Boswell tremendous job you agree or disagree I don't know why you're nervous Christmas right he he's he's money he's he's right he's not just making them he's hitting it right down the middle of the fairway since we're talking about golf analogies he's here he's ripping it down he's fairway Freddie Right now yeah that no you're right I mean there's there's certain guys at my dad always says he's unconscious don't wake him up yes he that's the way he's kicking the ball I although I wish they would just let him kick it out of the end zone off kickoffs that's a different story together who's a player that stood out for you land in a positive positive way after this game I'm Gabe automaker Fitzpatrick I thought he was he made a mistake at the end of the game when he gave up the you know assisted in giving up that Pi call against Nelson he got food want some cheese underneath that row he should have been on top of that route they should have been squeezed in that route but the pick six I mean they don't get that pick six they don't win this game and when you give up a pick six you give up a special team score for a touchdown a pick six defensive touchdown the odds of you winning a football game are very slim because what do you do jeff always you're chasing the seven points yup absolutely and it wasn't just any pick sixes there's a ninety six yard return which was the third longest in steelers history that boy showed some speed running down that sideline trade how about Nabis obvious here that's paying dividends already he is absolutely paying dividends already do you have to say and this is GonNa be my next player anyways but sade in a bunch of other people in the live I'm Chad bringing up stood debris dollars from say we appreciate that by the way if you want to donate to the show you can the super chat feature right next to the comment part of the rights of small little dollar sign you you can donate any amount of money that we ask all of you that are watching right now whether it's replay live hit the thumbs up button subscribed to the channel really appreciate we have almost two hundred people watching already we're only five minutes in the worst you can do is free like video subscribe we appreciate before you bake I mean is it sade or is it Shah today I yeah I don't know I I don't know I don't know but hey bud depre- you said it before on Wednesday you said what does he need to do lose the dud debris monitor that we both of us I think gave him and I said he's gotta get sack clean sack on tackle which is costanza onto their left tackle the considered this was considered the best offensive line in the NFL and he ends up with what Kirk two sacks right I believe so that the game book I've got the game book up I was a little confused here I had the link-up from the post game press conference of course guys are still doing interviews and I was like now what is going on in the background I am hearing things maybe I am going crazy live on youtube that would not be a good look so so let me pull it up here as scroll let me just say he had at least one so why you look it up he had at least one and I ali saying didn't Jeff make a promise about study debris and that was that if he can get in register cleans not on tight end that he would no longer be dud debris that stood to print lance before I want is to saks you're right and they're saying they're saying obviously in the live chat is well day scofield chimes in these two guys are playing like tremendous book and pass rushers and Buddy Pres plan for his money we talked about that before my question for you is is he is he gonNa make that money in Pittsburgh do you think if he keeps this up he's getting paid now paid by Pittsburgh I'm GonNa wait till the end of the year right now I would still say no I don't WanNa make a knee jerk reaction based on outstanding production this year but if that pass rushing duo if you end if you in the year with double digit sacks from both outside linebackers it's hard to split them up in fact I would advise that you don't split them up and I dare anybody in the live chat to say or or to comment comment on a better pass rushing outside linebacker duo in Pittsburgh right now we talked about in earlier shows I think I've got a question on my show maybe Friday you guys is the checkout the yeah I said it on Friday about the steelers will make the playoffs if in that if was red zone offense and we'll talk about that on the show I was asked about stood depre- are we We claiming Stud Duprey now I have to keep it at that I have to call him stud for me it's going to be stood debris I like I like study pre I mean I was originally no but I don't think there's a better rushing outside linebacker tandem in the national foodball league if there is one put it on the live chat but none jumps to my head right now if you get double digit sacks from both you gotta sign that guy and he asked to remain made a Pittsburgh steeler yeah I agree so bud debris phenomenal job he N. T. J. Watt we can put them together had they played a great game in they way ended up with the five sacks on the colts on the day five six total and I don't WanNa diminish the fact that they've got five sacks total this offensive line at I believe was coming in with eleven on a year which was second national football league to the Pittsburgh steelers and they got consisted rush when Hoyer was in obvious passing situations shoelaces he was under duress on every snap yeah and that actually it didn't result in the wind per se okay but I'll tell you what it it was a it was good to see steelers defense finally getting after it we'll talk about their third down defense here but let's stick with the the trend what is another player that stood out to you in a positive way you don't think the outside linebackers obviously defensive side of football all only offered to side of football I give props to edmonds I think Edmonds coming off the bench you know twelve twelve attempts seventy three yards average six point one obviously he got a lot of that on a big run of forty five yards but I thought he came in and added some juice to the running game hey I like the way he runs better than Benny Snell so S. A. L. biddy no jets so I like his contribution to the offense well I I'm not sure if that's a ringing endorsement that you like him better than denny snail but still at the same time I see what you're saying dating wore ring reports were we haven't heard this for sure did that Benny smell could be out for a couple of weeks after he had surgery on his meniscus the team he's not done anything but I do want to get to this Super shot nine ninety nine from Grayson Brownies. What's happening to Mason referring to Rudolph haven't been the same since the Baltimore Game as the coaching I I know the experiences are but we have we have seen him play better than this here's the thing for me but Mason Rudolph and I am invasive Fan I'm not gonNA disagree with that but what I didn't think Mason Rudolph played all that bad today I do think that the play calling helped him in in many ways sometimes times I feel that he doesn't want to make that mistake and therefore it's kind of like paralysis by analysis I don't know of land sees it the same way I do but when you drop back acnes he's kind of scanning scanning he doesn't want to try and put it into those tight windows I thought one of his best throws of the day was the interception that throw was in a tiny window he put it where only his guy could catch it and it went right through Juju Smith Schuster hands and then deflects into the arms of a defender that was in my opinion was non time throw it was contested throw it was an nfl caliber throw in that was those is best for the game and it would give you a second best throw the game was to throw that he may to Vance McDonald for the touchdown in the red zone where he scanned both sides of the field gap back the back half read stuck stuck to him I I mean I don't have a problem with Mason Rudolph he is what he is right now I I think what the steelers are trying to do is not lose the game through through quarterback play I think they trust this defense although this deacons has to start I mean it's been playing better in the red zone but it's got to get a little bit better in a red still and it's gotta it gets people off the field interesting situation some third long situations but I think they trust his death it's I think you're going to continue to see them take a conservative conservative approach with Mason Rudolph so he does not lose the game for them I think they feel comfortable with this defense to keep them in the game so he doesn't have to make a lot of plays in the game for them to win Football Games but I'm like grace and I think they need to I think they need a term loose a little bit let him try to throw the ball in between Lina numbers because Veneta is getting no targets and so I think you gotta attack seems because at some point in time you saw the coats make the adjustment in the second half they took Samuel's away in the short passing game and so when they do that what's the adjustment at the steelers can make with signal callers that they may not trust they got to run the football better so it's still a working progress we'll answer me this you know a riddle me this they come out in the first offense series and they run the no huddle and they move the ball right up the field and they don't do it again there's decisions this is on Mason Rudolph this is just more offensive statement some of the things that they're doing make no sense to me so you have success with the no huddle up tempo in then you kind of revert in the second half to run run pass run run run run pass I don't I just don't get some of the decisions remain Lancet mean is there any logical reasoning behind it yeah it's it's it's it's hit scratching almost say bone scratching but it puts its head scratching I don't understand I thought Mason Rudolph came out with a Nice Timbo nice rhythm I thought the no huddle gave him a nice rhythm that's one thing that I was asking for when I did a couple of shows a couple of weeks ago about did turn him him loose was playing with tempo and running some no huddle I just don't know it's it's really weird I mean I I bet it's just very difficult you have an inexperienced guy quarterback we're back and so there's this tug of this poll of you trying to real a man you want to let them go you know sorta like that rubber band it's like you know oh you wanNA stretch it but you're afraid at what point will it pop and so you're always trying to just you know manage it in a way to where he won't lose Liuzhou Game and when you have a deficit you're comfortable with they're going to get conservative in spots and it's just GonNa be frustrating we talked about it on earlier shows is that the variance Arians in his play is going to go up and down but again if they want to get a proper evaluation of him they are going to have to turn him loose because at some point in time time you're going to have to win the shootout game and can you win the shootout game with Mason Rudolph you're right there I agree a hundred percent now Michael puts five dollars in the tip jar again again thank you very much we appreciate that if you WANNA do into the show the super chat feature next to the comment bar there's any any amount of money and we appreciate it contour from Cox Fox has all your favorites all in one place and with the contour remote you can use your voice to fund them on live TV on demand and streaming APPs like netflix prime video uh-huh and more see Cox dot com for details Michael says please give Nelson referring to Steven Nelson shout man other than an unreal catching throw in a bogus defensive pass interference call this guy's name is is not mentioned in the last three games ended the cornerback position if you're not being talked about that is a really really good the thing and I wanna say this because I can't stand some of these old head beat writers like Ed Bouchette of the athletic who are going nuts about well the steelers free agent duds continue they released onto moncrieff ours no one bringing up the fact that Steven Nelson who was the highest paid free agent acquisition in team history is playing being tremendous anyone except I understand that you're going to talk about the we're going to use it if if we're going to use a golf analogy still continuing that trend that yeah you might duck one into the woods from time to time but what about that that shot that he stuck within two feet on on their part of three the following whole Steven Nelson has been tremendous for them and unfortunately a other than like he said the great catch on the sideline and losing his shoe today he didn't see or hear from him I you can speak Steven Nelson Lanston meet hey he's been great he's been solid and I'm glad they got at this wind because the way he's played this year I will have hated him being the potential culprit in them losing the game on the Pi call which serve it was horrible it was absolutely uncatchable and that speaks to Tomlin's challenge you should not challenge Pi of your coach don't do it don't don't do it you're going to lose that's a bad challenge they were lucky and fortunate that it did not costing the game that lack of a time that they lost their no coach challenge challenge a Pi it's not going to get overturned it just is not but Nelson was solid Nelson has been solid all year he's played better than Joe Haden this this year and again he's the most expensive free agent acquisition so if you're going to judge the steelers acquiring free agents you would judge the most by the most expensive guy not probably the least expensive guy and it just worked out for Dante Moncrieff we predicted uh-huh weeks ago that he was going to be waived so they could get that third round pick unfortunately for him it did not work out I'm sure he will get picked up he I think he's a solid player just it didn't work out for him but again Outstanding I mean Nelson display fantastic football this year he is not the candy bar or or he is just a candy bar he's the mounds he's the one he's the mounds or the Milky Way the two candy bars and everyone leaves the ball after Holloway I don't want to bring that up again later we're talking about is still there were three pass interference calls challenged in this game zero were overturned the statistics are staggering. Being as you mentioned the coaches should not challenge they're not going to overturn a I wanNA say there's only been a handful of overturn calls his which which to my opinion in someone that's on the Competition Committee for my top Mike Tomlin being on the competition committee got another knocking over some don't challenge the call save your time outs understand the the situation horrible ended the game there but I do WanNa get to this year brandon puts a dollar ninety nine the tip jar he says why is everyone expecting Mason Rudolph to be a hall of fame quarterback right now I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that they the expectation went from season veteran franchise quarterback Ben Rothlisberger down to let's let's call a spade Ada spayed lands he's a rookie he's not a rookie but he's a rookie here this guy has only played I think what does this is fifth or sixth start his NFL career you WanNa talk about who who they played the last two games and Brian Hoyer and Ryan Fitzpatrick those are journeyman players that have been around the block that defensive looks he is a learning quarterback we're back in so I wish that if you're a young fan out there that wasn't really understanding what was going on in two thousand and four go back to youtube and and find some old footage of Ben Rothlisberger in two thousand and four he did not look like the two thousand seventeen Ben Rothlisberger with the two thousand eighteen that threw for five thousand thousand yards he didn't he looked like okay gay manager handed off handed off please defense make a play am I right or am I right you're absolutely right he looked like a guy where you lean on the running game your Defense Point Blake but I think I don't think anybody expects Mason Rudolph to be Hall of Famer to what Jessica the do seventeen hundred complaining I want to say something else complaining of boating about his play and he's not losing them games yeah I mean that's what it's going to be the the they are going to they're going to speak they're gonNA spoon feed him they're going to give him a little bit more and more you know sort of like when you have a a newborn breast milk formula you introduced him slowly on vegetables you institute introducing slowly on you know fruit then you mix Samore solids they're gonNA continue to add more and more to his plate as long as they're continuing to do that and they can make a proper evaluation of the player by the end of the season season it's win win for me the one thing that they can't do is handcuffed the kid and they're not able to make an evaluation on if the kid is the guy that they can move forward with after the been rothlisberger errors over so it's a delicate dance in terms of how you manage a young quarterback rit dollars from four four ten carpenter legend he says that stupid challenge by Mike he's referring to Tomlin's challenge of the the pass interference varkey drinker puts two dollars in the tip jars as I read offense playcalling straight but I mean as his words not mine you'll hit it is is bad it it it it is really bad and I think what they're doing down there is because the field is condensed I talked about it in the show the Friday show yeah I said at the steelers will go to the playoffs offs if they're reds on offense improved dare scared to have Mason Rudolph throw the ball on a tight windows period and they don't run the ball oh well enough to aid him in the red zone so often times when they're running the ball in the red zone they are not picking up yards and he is is being put into some some disadvantageous third-down opportunities third and longs thirteen mids. Those are difficult for veterans in the Red Zone to complete consistently for touchdowns so I don't know if it's the play calling I will say I will agree it is some of the the play call it because if you're going to Ron Ron Pass in the red zone they're not gonNA pick it up well let's let I don't want to interrupt you but I want to chime in here quickly when you don't what did he say when Ben Rothlisberger throw in the red zone what did they not do they didn't run it well enough and so when the field gets sword and you have a good defense and good secondary vacant vacant they don't have to cover as much ground they can beat you into bad decisions in so Mason Rudolph is not inexperienced quarterback yet is he he is still you can see it I mean I even looks like they're running some design bootlegs in the red zone I'm thinking why in the world would you cut the half the cut the field and have fueled in half when it's already a short feud is seems it's a dumbest this thing you can do but it's because they probably don't think that he's GonNa be able to process and like you said they trust their defense and they wanna make sure that they get three and not have that costly red zone turnover but at some point you're going to have to throw the ball on first down and not just try to run it and I wish they would also try to run it when they're spread a little bit at least Cowboy Jeff was the last time you seen them run a shallow crossing the Renzo a it's been a while let's it's never for like never I've almost never yeah they're they're pretty hamstrung in the red zone it's hard to be creative with play caller that you don't with the with the signal caller collar that you don't trust they don't run it like you said again jeff they don't run it well enough they went one for four reds I'm GONNA guess after this game that they'll probably be ranked thirty second national football league in Red Zone offense were twenty eighth twenty ninth I'm going to guess it'll be dead last at the end of this game well well I'll tell you this though other than that offensively I saw strides today in terms of moving the football they ended the red zone with ease I mean and people were complaining about Miami Amy Game in the first half definitely strides better than what it was but at the same time they're stalling in the red zone I feel I guess just the next progression For this office offense let me talk to the live chat how many plants do you guys think the steelers head today he counting the free kick or not no oh not killing freaking k. while they think are you going to answer now do you want to wait a little bit are wait a little bit now wait a little okay we have a couple of super chats to get to Ryan here's a question five five bucks from Rhino Theresa's any chance the difference in do pre could be tied to Joey Porter Not coaching that's a great question what do you think about that I'm not sure you know it's hard to answer a question like that because 'cause you're not seeing what they're doing but I mean he's not coaching them and he's playing better I think it's probably he's just motivated to get paid aid I mean you know I mean look when when you're trying to hunt that money you try to eat filet Mignon or revise T. bones instead of sirloin and breakfast stakes aches You'll get after the quarterback and I don't think anyone has ever doubted the fact that but the previous physical freak I mean he's a specimen out there I mean he's a big kid six four six five about two seventy five would he run in the COMBI probably four or five four six I mean he's a he's a physical freak so the physical ability has always been there sometimes it just takes guys years but that motivation of getting some money is kicking the but that you need and I I I will say this that Speaking with Chris Carter from Decay Pittsburgh sports who has been to inside that locker rooms spoken to budget pre we asked him specifically in training camp what the differences and he literally answered with they're just letting me do what I do in other words you use your speed user athleticism get a few moves that you really trust interest go get the quarterback is it that simple I doubt it but at the same time it's working well you know what the phrase is Jeff if you're thinking stinking so you know maybe he's not thinking he's just like he's just going to hunt and you know sometimes you know you've coached for a long time I've coached coach longer than me sometimes when you take some of the mental stuff away it allows guys to play freer in faster asked and that's clearly what he's doing he is playing his best football of his career very good all right let's see if you can pronounce his name Air Lance You see that on the screen go ahead give that a shot Monnier Yeah I love right now that's good she lavelle and he goes she gives gives a super chats and just saying hello finally seeing you guys live we appreciate that there's a lot of people that have watched the shows that are subscribed to the channel but don't get to see his often so it's pretty cool when you see that go ahead and answer that question and we have a lot of guests in the live chat about upon how many points I think I know do you want me to take that question backup I don't I can't see the question anymore question was the one part so will you put once you're moving the football I mean when you part once Camin you're definitely moving the football in fact very interesting game I in terms of punts if I could find that again you know with the mask like I can't have see there are only four months in the game so it was a very quick game I don't know if anyone knows until the end and all the stupid yeah but I don't know if anybody Eddie noticed I think the first quarter in terms of just time was thirty minutes I was I was I was cheering we're pompoms on as I was doing my step watching the the Game Jeff knows what I'm talking about I do steps when I watched the gay helps me I get my steps in for the day trying to get my ten thousand steps apps you know have my little dumbbells out now was trying to get my ten thousand steps so quick game I was like Greg this we'll get into our did no seven two thousand challenges in the second half terrible I so here's the thing for me is a lot of people you're chiming in about Mason Rudolph lack of scanning scanning the field and stuff like that can someone please tell me a guy that is just playing for the first time in his NFL career not his first game at his first season as a starter someone that's been able to come in and look like Tom Brady in terms of reading defenses and hitting anyone I have one answer but it's unfair for me to even say the answer answer because the guy is from Pittsburgh he's from this my pies in marina but that's one guy that's one guy to your point choice just one let's look at the percentages their percentages did some most quarterbacks are going to struggle and it's just nature I mean this is put it is so that all right Lancet let's look at the we don't have any other Super Chad's right now so if you have this the book open the game book she over some statistics Do we have the super chat for Lonzo was it does she have question just saying hello oh well hi hi hi actually lawn yeah I'm sorry magnier high jump into the game book listen to the Game Book Third Down Efficiency too cold for twelve thirty three percent but they were two of three on fourth down the steelers were five of thirteen on third or doubt anything stand out to you there jeff with the colts specs particularly being able to converse third laws well some of the coverage there's one conversion I wanna say is their nineteen eighteen eighty didn't surrender the first down but they give eighteen yards and they ended up going for it on fourth down and getting it so although that doesn't go down as third down conversion to me that goes down as basically a conversion their fourth down conversion that show that I thought that at least defensively the steelers down defense got better as the game were on it literally looked like the steelers Pashas pass rush was wearing down the colts offensive line and that's that's a good group we talked about that at the beginning show that's a good group what are your thoughts on the third down defense I've been wanting to stand the games and correct me if I'm wrong in the live chat and I got to watch the film again because I could be wrong but it looked like the steelers made a conscious decision to take Devin Bush out of the game and some sub package situations and and there was a play into red zone where he gets beat by doyle and we talked about doyle when we broke the game down last week about e bronc doyle the use of the tight ends kids Hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nannying I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown forecast your avengers of College College football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling confessional pants with Warren Middle School we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast I ap the key to third down defense at times is just being aware situationally sometimes you can give up a catch if you you tackle the catch to force a punt sometimes you don't have to be overly aggressive in play the football and try to make the play sometimes the play is simply tackle the catch and I think in some situations the steelers were a little bit over aggressive but I think to your point about the pass rushing eventually wearing a I think you're right because I think early in a game the lack of pass rush I think really exposed Bush in barren and some underneath covered situations one thing I would like to see a young player Bush get better in is being a little better and coverage I think that that's kind of standing out one thing that stands out to me in the game book was and we didn't mention it and I don't know if he was he he can't get a game boy if you put the ball on the ground but Jalen Samuels Thirteen targets thirteen receptions options I think that was a steeler record I believe Dan fouts spoke to that wish your thoughts on Samuels in those thirteen receptions my first thought is Dan vowed as an idiot idiot can stand that guy he says the dumbest stuff anyways don't Wanna get off on his tangent there was the Oregon duck so no no no no no no love for your PAC twelve stuff okay for me I thought that Samuels I'm trying to figure a Europe and I'm running the game back in my mind were a lot of his receptions by design or were they just checked out I think it's probably a happy medium between the two Still Hill he's proven that although different from James Connor he still effective and I think that I really hate that the ad that fumble because if he didn't have that fumble I thought he had a tremendous game that fumble almost cost them the game and someone say should have got should've cost in the game what was his overall stat line again and we had thirteen receptions in how many yards and how many yards rushing any Russia thirteen targets thirteen receptions seventy three yards five point six average he ran eight times for ten yards or one point three average outside of so the steelers ran it for ninety yards half of that that was on the forty five yard game by Edmunds early in the game you take away that and I hate when guys say that but I am going to say that that's twenty four tips for for forty five yards that's not going to get it done they've gotta run better and we've talked about that all year that they've got to run the football better and that definitely has to approve let me give you another number couple of numbers that stood out to me and Dave asked a question on our personal chat during the game A James Washington have a breakout game four targets for reception sixty nine yards averaged seventeen point three yards per catch had a long of forty is was was this a breakout game for him in European yes absolutely why because he made key catches at this point in his career and especially especially with the trajectory that he had been on you can't nitpick so his breakout game for him was fifty yards or more in this let me say this way this is the first time that James Washington looked like the player we watch in the preseason in the regular season will he was making big catches had the forty yard completion from route off in the second half which was good to see mates really nice contested catches that's what we saw in the preseason in the regular season would roll around everyone's hey where's he going where does he go like how's this guy just disappear or now starting to see it this couldn't happen happened at a better time now here's what I'm starting to see happen Juju Smith Schuster I want to talk about him and his second numbers so you you mentioned I use numbers for the game five targets three receptions sixteen yards for an average of five point three of those sixteen yards he had a long of twelfth so his other two catches were for four yards he is not being utilized glad jeff so everyone's talking arguing about how there needs to be a weapon ray threat opposite of Juju Smith Schuster to give him some space Deontay Johnson and James Washington John Although they're not there yet I feel like they're on the cusp in it's also indicative of the steelers offense as a whole in other words the steelers offense doesn't do anything that great right now they are mediocre and a lot of different areas but they don't do any one thing particularly well and so for me I think the steelers if they continue trending in this direction which I do think ask you this question do you think that the steelers offense is trending in the right direction I think they are they're moving the ball better mason Rudolph does look more comfortable I think the James Washington did have a break out game it's a good look for the steelers offense moving forward do you agree or disagree I hate to be that guy I to bring it a bit of negative because I've been doing better I've been being more positive I'm breaking out the mass I've been going to my steeler therapy sessions and I've been talking to my steeler therapist and I've been trying to be a little bit more popular I don't WanNa poke fun to anybody that goes to therapy therapy is very important area import so but what I say is no they're treading water and if you're treading water you're not improving the reason why say they're treading water is they're not they're not good in the red area you you get four red zone attempts you need to convert at least to you convert that red zone attempt early in the game this game is not as close they win the game but they've got to do better in the red area it it was an improvement they got four reds on temps and that's the thing now and but but it's one plus one equals two not one plus one equals one because what they're doing they're moving the ball better I think they're finding a formula to move the football short passing game although although that put him in a lot of third down attempts but short passing game integrated a little bit of running being safe at the football for Mason Rudolph the defining an occasional deep shot they're finding ways to move the football but they gotta score touchdowns you just have to you have to score touchdowns in the red zone because they don't get a ton of big plays in their offense so I think the offense is treading water but at least it's it's moving the football a little better more consistently well I think they because they are moving the ball is means they're trending in the right direction I see you're you're saying about the red zone and trust me comes down to point score they did put up twenty six today that would be higher than their average their average for the season with Bengo up so it for me I'm looking at it and say I need either going in the right direction they're not they're not great but I think they're going in the right direction well they they they scored nineteen date when you look at the stats they don't don't differentiate between Wayne Wayne per game not game game you are correct they just like in the interception catalog they don't have tipped off receivers hands and take away from Mason Rudolph True Okay to measure let's talk about G G Smith differ a second will resist that line with all said and done five receptions excuse me five targets three receptions sixteen eighteen yards for an average of five point three per kitsch five targets yes that's it's bad yes in one of those targets was a horrible fourth-down call filer holds is blocked block for a second second that works but second it works it's a he didn't end you couldn't elude the tackler and get stopped so you still what is the deal with this situation that they need to give him more targets you don't WanNA stare them down I get all that where how do you find success for Juju moving forward if you're feelers often I think they've got stop isolating Juju as the X. or you know the outside receiver the Xyz Xyz they have to put him they had to let him be the wire receiver I think they have to move him around two more areas in the formation they're playing him in my opinion a lot lot like Antonio Brown as the isolated ex receiver outside the numbers where he has to win on one on one coverage but I think you can load up on that and take him away I I think they have to move him around the formation try to get a little more creative with how they use him okay I have say this because it's being talked about a lot in the live chat right right now in that is that I think back to when Bruce Arians was like they bring in Todd Haley everyone wanted hailey fired I mean that was like fire he has it been as much about feeding her but now people are getting frustrated how much of the offense struggle do you put on rainy feeder shoulders it's probably about seventy five percent eighty percent is that a ghost in the background here and that's my dog shaking hi a puppy I'm put eighty percent on feature I'm GonNa put twenty percent on the quarterback quarterbacks young like we said he's he's pretty much for autism purposes this is he's a rookie they've got to find a better way to get him unlocked and loosened up they've got to figure that out the onus has to be on the coaching I'm not a guy that loves loves to blame players I like to put it on coaching coaching has to put players in position to be successful and they have to do a better job of that so I don't know if that's the player not demonstrating the coaches during the week of practice that he's prepared to let them get a little more creative in terms of what they wanna do I`Ma we'll put eighty percent of feet ner I'll put another ten percent on the offensive line in terms of them not getting the running game going and I'm GONNA put ten percent on Mesa Rudolph you've got to pick up a young signal caller they've got run it better they've got a coordinated veteran call better games to give him a better opportunity succeed this to me is all already feet to a large extent look at the calls in the red zone absolutely abysmal absolutely what we are on the cusp of having four hundred people watching the show alive right now I just want to remind everyone if you don't want to give us your money which we don't ask for your money that's just something that you can do in terms of the super bad the best way you can help us out and it is completely free free is by just hitting the like button hit the thumbs up button doing so help promote our channel subscribing to our channel obviously 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"Our welcome to the bill bardwell show i bill aren't well the p._i._n. it's thursday january thirty first two thousand nineteen read as away my math is tricked days away three or four days i don't know a bunch of days away from super bowl l. i i a lot of super bowls and the past one particular super bowl eighteen years ago patriots rams seventeen especially in through this whole thing up seventeen years ago patriots rams we have a rematch of that very famous super bowl coming up on sunday joining us talk about that later on we'll be nick stevens who covers the patriots right now we're going to start with former guest of the show someone covers the ramps ross at e._s._p._n. and talk about all things rams in advance of the super bowl it's the s._p._n. linzie theory lindsey how are you it's funny i don't really know what day it is and how long until the super bowl but it seems like taking absolutely forever to get here at this point like i just want them to play like i i would say there is the whole flu thing possibly going around that maybe dragged from i think johnny hecker one year old son if i'm not mistaken i didn't hear about johnny son but i know there's a couple of guys on the team who have had illness and a couple of other guys who did deal with the flu earlier this year so some sort of illness but otherwise like we're already to go like a can't imagine there's going to be a lot of stuff that suddenly going to be you know the rams aren't going to land on some kind of like tape reveal about oh this is how we can stop the patriots like i think everyone it seems like is ready to go and play the game but we're still several years away yeah they are ready to go i was walking around media vail ability they and talking to a bunch of the guys and they kind of just have this wide eyed look of okay now we've met with reporters for last with three or four days for an hour at a time and you know there's only so many times they can answer questions about we not mean how amazing the thirty-three-year-old sean mcvay as before they're like all right let's go play the football game now do you think any fact in the history of facts been more amazing to the assembled media than how young sean mcvay as but it is kind of amazing i think about it i'm about sean mcveigh's age and i can't fix myself once every day and i barely get my laundry on and this guys thirty three years old and his taking a team that won four games and two years later they're in the super bowl and it's just it's pretty remarkable what he's been able to accomplish given i know he came up the rank through the n._f._l. only really did climb the ladder from you know being a low level assistance now the head coach but it is still pretty remarkable how quickly he did it and just exactly how successful he's been let me start with that in terms of just the context of this season as a whole for the rams you think about what they last off season i was actually just talking about this on twitter show he did i was thinking about what we talked about before the year when it came to the rams and there's so many players on this team some this is i was showing face i'm this philps but especially on the defensive side of the ball so many players who for one reason or another happy tation of someone who was going to be kind of nuisance or kind of mess in the locker room and marcus peters course kansas city keep to leave with denver consumed with mammy dolphins even dante fowler who required him in season from the jacksonville jaguars and i it seems like you know obviously i'm not privy to what's happening the locker think you'd have a much better than me of course but we don't hear those same stories about the it's not hurting week like oh this is a fractured locker room and they're just going to overcome that and try to win like it seems like everyone is kind of on board and heading in the same direction so is there anything particular you noticed the players attributing that to or something you feel like you've noticed about sean mcvay phillips that you feel like you know believe that they're doing a better job with those players who had the stations elsewhere well i think that winning probably the cheer hall for everything right if you are winning they're not much controversy to be had there's not a real there's not going to be a divide there's not going to be the defense versus the offense so there's not gonna be you know one position group that's getting angry at the other position for not pulling their weight when when they all are winning thirteen games in the regular season onto the super bowl so i think that has a lot to do with it but i also picked that when the guys came in they understood that this is a very tight knit locker room tight knit group and they had a goal in mind to come to the super bowl and they weren't going to take any mount sense you know marcus peters has has been himself to a degree but he also has toned down a little bit from some of the earlier season marantz we saw him go on and make mistake they're people there's voices in that organization you said you know this is not the look that we want this is the look that we will have so there's there's a lot of messing around the guys that locker room all know repeated sean mcvay there what the standard is the standard is the standard is they always say and they're not they don't have any exceptions nobody is kind of those rules yeah certainly seems like that's the case in terms of peter's he's a really fascinating near in that you sorta figured he would either be really good for he would be really problematic in some ways and instead it's kind of relieving neither like he's been a little bit of shoes here and there but nothing as big as we saw in kansas city at the same time i don't think it's fair to say he's playing at the same level he wasn't kenniston he struggled a bit more he's been sort of the the target especially when he was out it felt like he wasn't able to really hold down you know that number one cornerback role do you think what do you think of how the rams perceive peter's at this point giving what they expect heading into the years he's someone who you think they still wanna keep around for the long term you know i don't really have a good sense of that i know for i don't know but my perception would be that through the first half of the serious question mark about whether this is a guy we're going to stick around gave him an explosive play and you know obviously the the the real picture of that is the seventy two yard pass to michael thomas in week nine that marcus gave up with the saints when he wasn't even position as the ball snapped and drew brees and and that was the you know the gumbo pass right there but i think that he's kind of honed own himself in and he taking direction of it better and i know wait till also realize hey maybe they were putting marcus in the best place to succeed so wait has made a few judgments to some of his game plans to try and utilize marcus talents it's really are diagnose getting play and taking a little bit of a gamble but the way he was kinda gambling pressman coverage earlier this season that was not a gamble that was ever paying off right yeah certainly seems that that was on the that a lot in kansas city but you know i mean it's you can get beat at think it's one of those things where the risk is on higher you know if you get beat in zone coverage usually you know you're you're at least have a sense of your if some sort of depth to work with get beat him man suddenly there's a guy running past you for big place that's certainly makes that's kind of limits how much damage he can really do but it's a obviously really fascinating defense cuba's made a big difference coming back and i think it seems like that is really sort of you know happen i put it they they've really sort of reacted positively when they been down that saints game for example they were down i i drive of the game saints move the ball down the field and newest goering touchdown pass on kicking field goal the offense turns the ball over there in trouble the rams defensive stop force another field goal from app and forward allowable more touchdown but for most to gain than really kind of slowed the saints down in the second half really sort of improved so very resilient i think is the word i was thinking of but do you feel like you know ask the season's gone on has his team grumpy saying there's something you've seen something about this team it's changed over the course of the year that really stands out to you or just been kind of consistently the same sort of caliber of team all season yeah i think they've been pretty consistent throughout this season now i think the playoffs there's definitely be an uptick and i hate to say after but i think almost an effort from indomesia confu and a couple players on the defendant really more of a focus i come thing that bill johnson their defensive line coach really really size was that they needed to earn the right to rush the passer in order to do that they needed to stop the run we all know going into that first playoff game against the cowboys it was widely publicized that they allowed a league worst five point one yard average average exceeding five point one yards per rush and that was something they took personal that to be a team that's one of the playoffs and be you know told her the worst at something and so they really focused on stopping the run and the results i mean through the two playoff games where we're outstanding for them so i think same team through the season and in the playoffs came and they kind of bought into you know the that final part of what it means to be like super bowl team where maybe some individual accolades don't really matter so much right yeah i mean certainly it seems like you know if they win the super bowl i think everyone is going to be in great shape and a lot of guys who are on the strasser who are either their contracts coming up like like peters or sue you know it's really gonna revital that revitalize their just push them in a positive chelation that can go out and say hey look you know like super bowl i was a big part of a team that won played with a high level and ended up winning price are back with lindsay theory talking about the rams and the super bowl in a second i want to talk about our friends at zip recruiter and if you listen to the show on a regular basis you know i'm always recommending that n._f._l. teams perhaps teams and other sports anyone who needs to be hiring a person for a job should be looking at ziprecruiter because ziprecruiter is different from every other hiring sites out there said if you posting your job on one site and waiting for the candidates to come in ziprecruiter finds qualified candidates for your job for you they do the work instead of you doing the work it's powerful matching technology scans thousands of resumes benefit 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times over the course we can i think you know where i'm going the todd gurley c._j. anderson situation so actually i didn't know where you were going for this one so i feel like early growing us and i'm sure you've been asked to billion times not only this week over the course of the past few weeks i mean what is your read on the situation of course we've heard he's healthy pretty is going to have a big role in the super bowl do you buy both those things or do you think there's more than what the rams are saying publicly about todd girlies health and availability what i will not be shocked if the rams have to announce after the season that hot girl as having a procedure on his the i'm just i that that will not surprise me now that being said i do not think it was some conspiracy theory of why todd was on the sideline because of his name or he was hurt todd gurley was fine against the new orleans saints he came off one hundred plus rushing yards and that dallas cowboys game i when he carried the ball against the saints he looked fresh that six yard touchdown run he looks good mcveigh's pointed to that and i remember watching me like wow that was a birth you can see him really run with a purpose that was of course after he had those two uncharacteristic mistakes that pass that bounced off his hands and then was intercepted and that other red zone pass that just literally bounced off his hands and wide open fell under the turf when you saw girly have that six yard touchdown carry it you could tell you how to little extra in them to prove like i'm fine and over dumbest sakes now all that being said i don't know why sean they didn't use him i mean sean just basically said the game flow and i tend to believe him i don't think it has anything to do with with todd gurley zine he just wasn't playing well his head didn't seem to be in it and it just seemed like c._j. was a more reliable guy in those situations so i don't know if that really answer your question i do think that there's a little something up with todd girlies in the end that will be probably dressed after the season however i do not think that is what kept him sidelined for most of the game against the saints i mean it was really weird because like you said i mean he he you know he had those those mental mistakes it seems like these are not gonna make you drop a pass and he's not gonna make you a patron to an intersection and he don't look distance early greatest order but he looked fine do that you know bill right his name days okay knocking out there and risk you know his entire career to play on a knee that's you know you can't play on so it's right i'm i tend to actually you know i don't think it's as needed and feel amazing but i don't think that knee again is the reason why you have on the bench so now let me ask you about the super bowl i mean to you was that a one time thing where he was sort of struggling his head wasn't in it you know maybe maybe the pressure on him of big game where they were going to be relying upon him now obviously the n._f._c. championship game it does not compare to the super bowl in terms of the magnitude several orders of magnitude bigger than any other game really grizzlies played professional so i mean do you think that would worry the rams that maybe girly that has not going to be in the in the game and they might want to start with morrissey to anderson than you might figure in the maybe work early in as the game goes on or do you think it's going to be you know girlie starts and if looks good he's going to be the guy for the majority again yeah i know todd girlies are starting running back hungrily is the highest paid running back in n._f._l. history he is the guy who this offense really was kind of designed tech around lassie's season he's been the go-to factor in this offense this season you just this offense doesn't work without everything that's hot girl can provide whether that's running the football or catching passes out of the backfield or blocking i mean he's just so exceptional and so many areas that i have no doubt sean mcveigh's going to run them out there and got him going as quickly as possible i mean it just like the most logical thing and i think you know see anderson's been very impressive he's really done a great job of emerging as a factor on this team and someone i think even rams could've expect it would be the sort of player do you think there is appetite on both sides to have to come back and be a part of this team next year even if you figure grill is going to be one hundred percent and be the primary back a little bit surprised if that happens on just face on on money and kind of other needs the rams have they do have malcolm brown who is it was sent to the i. r. because of a shoulder or clavicle injury i should say earlier in the season but i think it will open sean mcveigh's is perhaps a little more to the benefits of having to running back to different style running backs malcolm brown is very similar as a back to to c. j. anderson there you have to tackle them differently touchable the rams defenders about you know what it's like to go against two backs of different style like this and then they said it's a great challenge and you know what that's probably also impart what made c._j. so much more effective in the final game was because teams are kind of preparing for todd gurley and what they were called todd gurley but then all of a sudden they're not expecting a c._j. anderson who you have to tackle the completely different angle and talk girly will take you know angles on you that that c._j. could never dream of so so the guys i spoke with said really just that to back factor and with such different styles what made them so good and i suspect it going into the super bowl that that show mcvay knows that and that's why it's also probably important for him to to get really going within that kind of help augments the run by j anderson you think this rams team still feels a little disrespected think they're still that perception maybe we talked earlier in the year about jared goff being assistant quarterback and how his team really rallied around that idea that the thinking that idea was looted crisper you have thirty three year old coach going up against the best coach possibly in n._f._l. history and bill belichick do you think they still feel a sense that the you know the the sort of national conversation sort of doesn't treat them the same way we're treating the patriots right now i don't think that they do with insured dos on this team does they knew early in the season i mean they were picked to win the super bowl by a lot of people before they even played a single down this season so the expectation for them as been there all year for whatever reason they're not really a team that commands much spotlight i guess but i'm they they know that the expectations been to get the super bowl even as other things have gone on around the league you know whether it be the same or the chiefs and now it's the patron and i think that there certainly as a very healthy amount of respect for the patriots and what they've done i mean tom brady going for six super bowl ring so that's that's pretty wild when you have four guys who've been to a super bowl altogether on your team but i i don't think that that's really a motivating factor for anyone other than jeered dopp like i said jared got a little testy before the rams left for atlanta he was asked several days in a row by different reporters that ruled through their training facility about those couple of weeks or yeah really week thirteen week twelve week fifteen twelve the by but we thirteenth fifteen i want he had flung and he emphatically said injured isn't usually kind of he didn't raise his voice it isn't usually kinda speak and stern tone and said you know this is the only room where that continues to be brought up because i've moved on from it i what were those fine games to see the night beat the cowboys you know now they he helped the team to to a win over the saints so i i think jerry has a little chip on his shoulder that for whatever reason people feel doubt him but the rest of the team i don't think that's something that's that motivates them do you think do you think that that's something where you think it's going to be part of what the rams are focused on like if if today jared goff to play really well to win this game you think i'm the louis i mean they they need to play mistake free football they can't have a sack fumble they can't have an interception they need jerry dr play really well and to you know probably make some some great throws and which she has done he we forget that perfect passer rating against the minnesota vikings we're just absolutely lit it up with cooper cup he did well against cheap so jared the really he is a good quarterback even though the narrative tends to skew and and maybe some of his shortcomings and really magnifies a few of his bad games he has had a consistently good season absolutely agree i think he's someone who you know like you said i maybe not on a on a snap to stamp basis there will be plays or he'll look bad role missing openers eager and they'll be like oh guys not that good and then he'll make an incredible play on the next series and we'll think oh he's a superstar he's just he's a young quarterback and he's someone who i think is still sort of looking for that sort of consistency but i'm the whole nukus entire season is entire body of work he's been great under shawmut fan i think unless unless there's something he's expecting unless the patriots find some way to really so down the rams running game and really forced into being third and long over and over and over again i think he is every reason to think he's going to have a good game against the patriots on sunday and to me i think you know maybe maybe they could pull it off if they have a great running game and aaron donald dominant but it does seem like they're going to have to get a pretty good game of jared goff just given that you know tom brady is going to be good on the other side of the football field yeah the biggest factor in this game is is tom brady i think the ramp can kinda weather the emotions that they're likely to feel in the first quarter they can get through that first quarter you know and the game within reach and they haven't had any catastrophic errors that they have a very very good shot just pound for pound to win this game but the one thing you can't count bores tom brady and the experience and he he obviously knows what to do down the stretch and that's where jared goff just needs to kind of be his unflappable self that he was in the in the n._f._c. championship game and he needs to kind of have the poise that he's had in several situations this season including playing at home when sometimes it's a little outer when they expect so finish up this office -ly there are no sleepers on the super bowl everyone's talking about everyone everyone has a story written about them there are no players who realistically you know are disappearing but let me ask you this is there a player or a team and i mentioned this earlier this week on other podcasts but is there something you think that monday morning if the rams win the super bowl will be sitting here and saying weren't talking enough about this thing before the game or this person or this player the scheme before the game and they really excelled on in in on the big stage on sunday talked about greg's airline the kicker he's obviously a huge weapon for them you know he hit that fifty seven yard to the forty was a forty six in the fifty seven yarder i believe for overtime and took security n._f._c. championship but i think if i had to pick a player it's going to be someone on defense it's going to be a cory littleton linebacker or it's going to be john johnson to safety and we're going to say wow we never thought they would have intercepted the ball and returned it for six or something along those lines those guys have been quite playmakers john johnson leads the team in interceptions cory littleton leads the team in tackles he had his first pick six one of the final game of the season so i think it's going to be one of those kinda guys everyone focuses on aaron donald everyone knows what to lead can bring everyone knows about marcus peters and too but i think cory littleton are john johnson are two names that when people watch the game those guys might might have a few game changing plays at the rain ram do and patriots who so much on the sought so much over the middle of the field so much of what they was about exploiting those linebackers and safeties and putting them in in disadvantageous situation so if they can hold up i mean you figure peterson to league can hold their own outside the patriots wide receivers on the outside or not especially great not the strength that team by any means and then you gotta figure donald because show you gotta figure is gonna do something so patriots to attack the weak spots in the team if those spots can hold up suddenly that ramsey looks pretty stout so i don't wanna make you make a prediction and now it's not fair i know that you i feel like would you would maybe get in trouble if you did not pick the rams to win but do you do you feel confident that the rams are likely to win be like it's totally up in the air how do you feel about this game heading into sunday yeah my official prediction that i filed the s._p._n. twenty eight twenty four and i made that prediction before tony romo so nobody can copy tony romo think he copied me i think it's twenty eight twenty four rams and it's because like i said i think this team is is so good and they to go into new orleans and win in the superdome i'm bill it was so loud it barely compose a tweet because my all over the place it was so loud so for them to come back with thirteen point deficit against drew brees is is a really big confidence booster and you know now you get tom brady in a an environment that's going to be a lot friendlier obviously the stakes are higher the emotions might be different but i think this rams team they're composed group and like i said if they can weather any kind of storm that happens in the first quarter because of those emotions i think they have a really really good chance absolutely i think it's going to be a really fun game windy contested were covering the ramps for us where can people check out more of what you're doing before and after on twitter at lindsey theory and then of course always on e._s._p._n. dot com click on the rampage and there's when to be all kinds of contents including yours bill tiny bit of mine but lindsay always a pleasure best of flock i hope he gets some rest after super bowl week but we're gonna come back with nick stevens here on the show after the break all right back here on the bill barnwell show i'm bill barnwell v._s._b._n. we talked to the theory about the rams before the break now of course as you might figure no surprise we're talking about the patriots here in the second segment on the show joining me to do that is nick stevens nick our you it's a pleasure to be on the appropriately titled bill barnwell show pleasure to be here from beautiful sunny frozen atlanta georgia i was figuring the temperature was so called because that was the temperature in the heart of falcons fans having to host the patriots on the two years after super bowl fifty one could have been worse though i have noticed this walking around this week so many people unprompted just casual conversation have told me you're told the people are talking to apparently eavesdropping on thank god it's not saints patriots that's exactly what i have heard from everybody i have talked to everyone who's either brought me a meal port of beer of folks at the hotel uber drivers or as we say up north olga i've talked to all of them and to a man they have all said the same thing like nah it's okay thank god it wasn't the saints i can't imagine how miserable this would have been if this was saints patriots for these four falcons fans i think it would have been incredible just only because we would've seen saints fans taunting the greater atlanta area for the tire and that would have been entertaining it's on way yeah like you you thought you thought atlanta burned with general sherman made his way to tout can you imagine if it was the twenty eight to three team and then the twenty eight to three fan base who just told them relentlessly making mardi gras floats out of it painting it on walls it would've just been i think atlanta would have just gone on a permanent airbnb and said you know what y'all can have your own super bowl we're getting yeah i mean just a total mess but hey worked out and i think we have a really interesting game here with the rams and the patriots from your perspective i mean just really start with new england nick about this is what the the ninth super bowl of the brady era i'm not saying yeah i i'm just really i'm mostly excited the patriots made the super bowl because it's just great to see like you know an upstart ragtag squad finally get it you know get a shot it's like rooting for the patriots at this point now i understand it's like rooting for facebook but at the same time yeah three in a row four out of five nine out of eighteen i get it i hate me to if i were you but i'm not you i've made which is why i love it but i i someone who has been following the patriots for a long time do you think that the broader patriots fans you know the patriots fans you interact with do you get a sense that the hold nobody believes in us everyone thinks we suck that sort of brady stuff that i can't take seriously as neutral fan do you feel like the big fan base really buys into that lock stock into salt barrels my man hundred percent oh absolutely now tell you as somebody who you know is a card carrying member of patriots nation if you will as as as a member of the legion of the the the mass holes insufferable yeah i mean i get it and i'm interested in the patriots twenty four seven three sixty five is anybody else's and there was a weird i i don't wanna call it maybe malays or almost indifference amongst pats fans for a while following super bowl fifty two now you'd think well come on you made it so many people wins them they lose you know this is this is going to happen so what's the deal but i think people were a little nonplussed after the whole widened ballot check play butler i can't believe the brady threw for five hundred five yards they scored thirty three points and they lost his game tooled backup quarterback so the temperature it got cold for a long time and i won't says that interest in passing than those those flames of phantom were restoked until basically december until basically the patriots kinda got their act together again after the pittsburgh game and now all of a sudden when everyone wrote them off that's when everyone decided you know what i'm into it again because if there's one thing new englanders hate hate hate hate hate hate it's when other people tell them how they should feel about anything especially tommy and bella check i got yelled at earlier this year for suggesting that eagles fans might not want to booth a team that was literally raising the super bowl the flag our earlier when they do the eagles off the field at halftime in week one against the falcons so feel like that is a common trope when it comes to some northeastern team perhaps and it was such a topsy turvy season bill i found myself you know the guy the guy who basically robbed our dreams and certainly out kicked whatever coverage we hit intended for them it falls with that epic superbowl performance although i have a feeling the kind of defense the patriots played in that game either one of us probably could've thrown for three fifty three she's louise but i mean it was such a strange season and i'm so going wherever this takes me because it was two days before christmas and i was watching a freaking texans eagles game rooting for nick foles to deliver the patriots could at least get the number two i mean that that's what two thousand eighteen did to me it made me hate the eagles and then i found at the end of the rooting for the that's very strange but very hot experienced defied yourself in i mean in terms of of how the patriots have actually performed in the postseason looking file scores forty one twenty eight chargers thirty seven thirty one chiefs they had to come back of course in the fourth quarter to beat the chiefs but i feel like they've been more impressive in the postseason on a play by play basis given how they've performed with a little bit of slip ups here there than those the scores indicate and then i think also relative to how they played during the regular season recre- i mean it's something you think they have improved on over the final the last two weeks or last two games has to say in the postseason yeah i it's it's incredible to see a team that was pants whipped and embarrassed in some of those road losses earlier this year i mean just jacksonville had their way with them troy game i feel like they just went downtown and paid forty six guys to put on brady michelle and gronkowski jerseys and show up at the at ford field and then of course the titans game when nashville was you know pats ville that we it was a complete takeover and they were out of that game for play one so to see that team in this off jekyll and hyde kinda season all of a sudden just solve their woes get the team together and you know dare i say like start playing like the patriots again that's the thing everybody was thinking about the game against the chargers it was the most patriots game they had seen at least all season and maybe a couple of season and while everyone wants to you know point out that it could very well have just been something as simple as well check in brady are gonna just you know they get out of bed they went at least ten games or eleven and you know start every season with an a._b._c. east championship well there may be some truth to that i think the biggest thing was health i think gronk needed some time off because at this point he's not even a real person he's franken gronk he's stitch together from the parts of so many different seasons i mean the guy had surgery on everything and it's not easy to play tight end and be a six offense lineman at that on a regular basis in this offense and brady i think he was playing with the m._c. l. thing so the extra time off that he got you know i i guess you could call them play buys when you have the the bills and the jets in december at home to wrap up the east and then he gets the extra time before the chargers and then finally the fact that they've kind of committed to this twenty one personnel formation offense where they're just imposing their will with the middle of their line -tuni- andrews and big shack mason just pushing people around left and right and sony michelle and birkhead they they've kind of become more traditional taking advantage of everybody playing smaller safeties in the box and having those sort of like television smith sized linebackers the pats are just going back to good old fashioned smash mouth football and then that sets brady up as opposed to telling brady you have to go out there and win the game all by yourself and it's kind of it's it's more traditional than i'm used to but it's really fun to watch i mean you know it's not remnants of two thousand one because that's a little too extreme example but that was eighteen that did run the ball atonomy light so much less on brady than than those teams after the you know that that sixteen though season did where brady was really took a step forward and was the guy we know now as capital t. capital be tom brady but it has been a more balanced attack has been against teams who were you know the chargers very good against the run against the ravens and the wildcard game the chiefs of course struggled against the run all year so you know it wasn't like they played teams have had terrible defensively played one team that had a terrible run defense and we saw it hap- late and that gps came brady when they needed brady to come through in with a couple of drives to win the game he did and also gronk record kathy came through with a couple of big catches late in the fourth quarter against the chiefs to overtime as well to win that game for the patriots in terms of gronk it feels like he's been around forever this is a guy who still somehow only twenty nine years old hasn't even turned thirty for a guy who you know at times you watch him play at this point and you think about that dolphins in the final game thinking might be closer to forty than thirty but obviously still incredibly impactful when the patriots do call on him to make a play and someone who is still a phenomenal athlete where does he stand for you in terms of the players you're gonna remember from this patriots dynasty when it's all said and done yeah it's funny you mentioned that because at the same time i liked to mention how could the team that lost you know they call it the miracles down there and i'm glad they made t shirts and banners seven nine season for single boy that's great the you know the miami meltdown for the patriots like gronk looked like grandpa getting out of the recliner to have to answer the door because nobody else was there to get low on that last play as kenyan drake was running into the end zone i think everyone thought he was cooked to see him come back to life and play more like grunk he's he's thing i don't know he's just so new ing he's just so so pat he's you know he's just grunk his name even need to be rob gronkowski he's just like this other worldly sort of like mascot rally rally monkey he's it makes the offense go like i said he's a six linemen people love him so much as grunk owes team where pats fans remember him in time i think he'll go out top five i think he'll be i think he'll be remembered as a top five of the last twenty five or fifty years even and you know while this isn't the podcast to do like all right who your patriots john had a tom brady bubba i think people will do because he is basically in always he's the he's like the face of this second iteration of the patriots you look at it it's like two separate potential depending on how sunday goes things crust that it could be two separate potential three win three super bowl win runs for the patriots the first time around it was really it was brady but it was more would bruschi and mcginest and then later on rodney harrison cy law those were the faces you remember along with this one so that i run now you'd look at the second time around and i think it would be once again and then it would be battlement and gronk and i guess maybe devin mccourty although he's a bit more unheralded doesn't miss as many splash but yeah the triumphant really is brady adults i think he'll be beloved son let's forever and i kinda do think if they win sunday i think he'd step away i think it makes sense for him the steph way you know what else the guy have to prove i think he's a hall of famer even if you're retired after the game on sunday obviously is going to have a bunch of super bowls he's going to have a career as i i hesitate to speculate what gronk might do with this free time post n._f._l. i would assume prowrestler seems to make the most sense given that he is not see that he and mojo rawley or horse at six months why i at least i mean it seems it seems like the obvious fit to me at some point but yeah i mean it makes total sense i was going to ask you actually who your five biggest patriots from dynasty would've been but apparently this is not the kind of show for that so i will not ask different questions i will go into different go all right brady brady gronk adamant brady gronk ataman ski mcguinness i think that's totally yeah i i would say twenty first century addition and i would put viteri in there as well but now he's played with any annapolis so well i guess all right i gotta put now i can't put why did he have to play so along with indianapolis oh anyplace could've gone for he's he's forty six years old and just sign one more one year contract which is unbelievable he literally looks like he looks like somebody who lives in the yukon and just makes it down to the mid west to come kick footballs for five months out of the year it's unbelievable i mean the crazy thing is when when the patriots moved off military kind of the thought was still a great kicker but he's getting up there in age don't know how long he's going to be the sky going forward those are cat money somewhere else let's draft stephen gus caskey's had excellent crew with the patriots as well twelve years now bill can you believe that thirteen thirteen years running actually he played thirteen seasons with the colts now more than he played with the patriots this is a guy who came to fell in teen ninety six thank ninety six bill parcells was his coach he was playing who else was on this roster in nineteen ninety-six keith buyers nineteen keys briars we're talking big play willie clay we're back curtis martin kevin turner drew bledsoe man smith who returned the fumble against jacksonville the a._f._c. championship it feels like a different universe thing team ninety six but i really still when you watch youtube highlights you're like wow with television quality that bad what at what the square picture i don't understand it's so strange to me but we managed through one guy one guy i feel like you did not bring up and i i was gonna bring him up anyway independent of what you were going to say for your five players and i don't think he's in that top five but someone who had think maybe nationally we don't appreciate as someone who always seems like the patriots rely on him in these moments james white who i feel like number one i think it's going to have a big game against the rams on sunday but never too i just feel like we sort of take him for granted and sort of this with kevin faulk as well in the role previously and to some extent shane vereen in the in between years between faulk and james white but i just think he's you know he's such valuable player to the patriots and i think that when they've been of a super bowl when they've been in big playoff games and they needed someone to make a play elements made big place obviously incredible catches chris hogan made it big catch gronk is gonna make replaced but for for volume for the guy okay we need to get the ball down we make it forty yards year in three plays so frequently so many times it feels like it's james white yeah there were arguments being made in new england the first half of the season that team and b._p. if not maybe you know and i know this is how it works that the team would ever tell the league like here's what we think you should make for people were all about james white because he was so integral to the offense because they couldn't get the passing offense goal and early in the season they bring in josh gordon and then brady kind of locked onto him too much and then the running game got going so that took some plus up its life but i think if you just sort of like i thing i before i even start keeping praises on the doorstep and throwing all those that james white deserves all of them i think maybe you know people say like oh the slot receiver that's the slot thing the slot machine that's what makes the bella tick openings go that's what's made mcdaniels brady so successful for all these years i actually think it's the check down back i think the check down back has been so incredibly important for the past because who caught half the passes when they came back against the raiders in the snowball j._r. redmond crowd half the passes on the drive to sit up in its area for the forty eight to beat the rams seventeen years ago sidebar it was so long ago that the past play the rams that if you were born that weekend you could now go see a rated r. that's all the top rated been playing quarterback jaren and then it was like you said kevin faulk who was so great at that for like seven eight seasons and then it was shane very go then we had a danny woodhead interval and it was shane vereen and now it's been james white that's the look that's what bales brady and this offense out time and again but i don't think anyone's been better at it than james white he finds ways to make chips and then sneak out into space and just get for just get first downs he's so quick he's got great hands never makes us think never asked for anything just goes out there and gets the job done and now it's probably when you get into that whole like and that's the patron thing you know they just they do your job yeah lunch pail guy put on your hard i mean but that's what he does doesn't get in trouble off the field team leader community pillar like he's so good at football and being a human it's almost noxious but i have and i've talked to them before and that's the problem too couldn't couldn't be nicer doesn't come out and say like this moments going to be too big for jared goff you know he's not gonna pull up an anthony smith or nicole the coleman and say somebody may ultimately regret in a couple of days like he's boring every other patriot who appears on sports radio that's how we will like it we want you to be boring says the v. more boring that's what we do we stand outside the stadium as the players come in and we all you know great it works for what what did vote was the freddie mitchell oh freddie mitchell allen product fred fred excellent said he only knew the numbers not the names of new england's cornerbacks and said he had something for the veteran strong safety heading into the super bowl at your eagles where i don't think he i don't think he did much against the super bowl i think that was mostly thrones but getting checked matched up mind you against a wide receiver cornerback yes choice myth someone else creature into that around ten patriot shari trae brenick so you could say that's not true in terms of the ohio state quarterback corner although bella check play if it was an urban meyer guy why not why not exactly so in terms of sunday's game terms of patriots ramps is there some position is there some player is there some concept some element of the game that would concern you if you say okay monday morning all rats the patriots lost a we should have seen this problem coming what would that problem be for you the dreaded pressure up the gut yeah it's just flat could be the dreaded pressure up the middle because you know brady hates it when he gets pressured up the middle when they pressure the middle of the pocket if this turns into a game where aaron donald who makes j._j. watt look like a stoner who sits around and just eats chick-fil-a and drink dr pepper all day the guy is just guy literate looks like like a michelangelo's statue that play football it's unbelievable and if he and adama can su if sued decides okay this is where i can make my legacy if he if he decides to wreck the line and he loves getting after brady and gave him some fits in detroit but especially in miami past couple of eases if they wreck the middle of that line in brady's got no time to pass dot me if you've heard this before but captain one thousand yards is not exactly does not exactly have blazing lateral speed and he can't do his thing where he steps up the pocket buys the extra second to hit gronk or to find element after he makes his second or third move or see wherever james why deciding out then it's gonna be a long day because i don't think they're gonna be able to run the ball with the same effective as that they've right that they've had i think they're gonna have to try to pick their spots and exploit what the kind of sneaky bed linebacking core for the rams and so that's why guys like birkhead trying to get one on one match up that's why maybe chris hogan and that's definitely why gronk are going to be huge factors because i think to leave will probably give elements of sets maybe to even try to work his way over to gronk every now and again and i think you know you know peters on patterson you know peter's onto whatever that's that's a bit of a loss you don't come to these games everyone's wondering what's going to be the philly special what'll be the trick play in that game i don't know but it's usually your stars win these games and if tom brady the biggest star of the mall doesn't have the time to operate it's gonna be tough day for the past it makes total sense to me on the flip side is there someone who like you said you think the stars to play the biggest roles but this someone who comes to mind to use not necessarily star someone below that gronk level who you'd say okay we'll monday morning pats one you know let's get the parade going this is the guy who's going to be on that first float because of how he played unexpectedly in the super books i have my pick but i wanna hear what your pick as well okay it's a his name his name would be having and half french for three flowers trae flowers pick my pick infuriates i have no idea we'd be had mind dude creepy frustrating yesterday dominique foxworth on the show he used a stat i was going to put on my com infuriating today have you on i'm like oh trey flowers such an underrated player so great in the playoffs last year had a big role you know you figure they need to pass rush makes total sense that was the guy was going to pull out of the envelope and you beat me to it inferior yet well i mean you know i think you know if you look at the defense like the run defense has you know he's gonna have to do their job because it's going to be tough to stop human you know the guy who makes mike tolbert look like he just thirty j. kyw is wrecking ball or a bowling ball what are you i don't i'm so happy he exists thinks it's in the way he does makes me just just proud that didn't prove email at that's fine he's fine he's i hope you places wait for ten years oh please yeah former fat guy who never got who never got any love by all means i think it's great what he's been able to kick off a couple teams and finding a second life here mostly when girly got all the love in the world i don't even think he's feeling i- something's not right with him either but right you know maybe two weeks will benefit girly as well but the reason why i went with trae flowers is well dante hightower can make a big play here or there i just don't think he's got i don't think he's in quite the position he could i you know maybe have a you know a sack like getting matt ryan and i'm sure devante freeman still one is like now i didn't i check him when he came on that play but trae flowers who had a huge second super bowl fifty one got the only treasures last year in super bowl fifty two on foles you know this is his free agency year and my my thinking is this that with ryan floors probably you know making his way down to be the head coach and miami scenario i'd be happy with trae flowers leaving not happy but i'd be okay with is trey flowers having like seven pressures six hits two and a half sex and one where he just completely blindsided knocks the ball out of gough gone they return for coach now and he's only a sneaky you know brady gets m._v._p. but trae flowers should've want it the same way james white should have won it for super bowl fifty one and then they just in floors just as you know stephen ross i don't care just open the checkbook and say how much do you want trae flowers and you know he'd come after us for years but we'd always say yeah but you completely rob jared goff of seoul for us and for that we will have you forever yeah i mean out of the question you get the big game and he goes to miami i you know i think patriots should resign him certainly i you know i don't think they're gonna franchise him but would be yishun for them aren't keep him around dish in but retention to keep him around but we'll see we'll get to the off season after sunday we still have the super bowl to come but nick if people want to check out more of what you do work when they do that this week i'm actually down in the working for the patriots i'll be making a series of videos for patriots dot com under my patriot superman superfan performing student fifty so i'll be down here you can check out patriots dot com and you can follow for for tweets about real life i'm at only next evens but for all of my wildly new england home ristic stuff it's at fifty g f y across your socials bill pleasure thanks man i appreciate you having me on this fun of course sir time and we're gonna come back next week monday it'll 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Standard is the Standard: Do the Steelers still strike fear into opponents?

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Standard is the Standard: Do the Steelers still strike fear into opponents?

"Pittsburgh steeler fans it's going on this is jeff hartmann editor of behind the steel curtain dot com with another episode of the ptsd flagship podcast the standard is a standard it's and early edition we were trying to do this during halftime of b u s women's national team world cup game i feel like we spilled over into the second half i really don't care but my co host lance williams out in california he's got a daughter the play soccer what's up lance what's happening jeff a start designer you're shirts it's out of peace or the this is the pirates in pittsburgh pirates stanford cancer the reading of the baseball bat and say oh okay pirated initiative i know i don't have it interestingly today but i don't know if you guys could see it say a steam goals nervousness eagles shower or which is a you know when during world war two i believe when the philadelphia eagles and the steelers combined to become the sequels hey yeah yeah that's exactly exactly it then when the war ended teams are back to their normal way so 'em i highlighted the show right i guess i should say i used the title of the show and we'll talk about that if he caught it in you see whatever but before we get into to be the meat of this episode i wanna get are opinions because if he didn't know the last two episodes we went back and we predicted the officer's depth chart the defense of depth chart in i wasn't about to an entire episode on the specialist but after the first time in a long time i feel that it's actually worth discussing so we had three spots left on are fifty three man roster do you think they will be camera candidate long snapper jordan and berry punter in chris boswell place kicker when the dust settles in two thousand nineteen i think of those positions i think of course giving away the steelers handle boswell's contract situation i think the competition titian clearly is that plays kicking position it's hard to say what it'll be it'll be you know whoever's in the competition but i think the question is in roomy this jeff will be either of those guys highs will be in a a guy at the end of training camp today pick up off the street where neither one of those guys you know warm good enough to actually have the position in they have to go actually go get that's another good point because matt he writes the kicker and it's gonna be challenging boswell wanna see it in berryman maybe the punter they brought in to challenge jordan berry so it if it happens every year where you have these competitions in a veteran gets released but so are living at i'm i think the steelers are gonna go into the nineteen although i hate to say it with the status quo i think it's gonna be berry boswell in canada age three specialists do you see them going out and getting someone else there dc it'd being the same as it ever was i i tend to agree with you i think it'll be the same than it ever was but i think if they if there is a change is gonna be me they'll go to the waiver wire they won't go to a rookie kicker they they won't they won't go that far out i think they'll go with an established veteran who's made some clutch kicks at some point in their career in bring that individually and i think going with an inexperienced kicker place kicker after the walls they had last year i don't think they're in a move i think that's queasy stomach so i say go get a bit yeah you know someone like a i'm trying to think if there's a player i can't think of a kicker i think the woodpile possibly fit that criteria but we have we the steelers hasn't disasters taking kickers though i mean you might as well get my daughter if they argued it rookie i mean you know she's a soccer style kicker a you know she doesn't really care about a pressure that much she doesn't like football so going out and just kicking field goals she'd be like hey let's do it let's try it basel wasn't rookie kicker and they picked him up yes he was i mean you see where they're at now though well yeah i guess it depends on if you're looking for a stopgap k rollover against me reliable this year one year deal that's it 'em it'll be interesting it'll be submitted i just have a feeling i said this on other shows and set it on this show to the steelers don't like to admit fault they don't like to admit they were wrong and they would have to do that in by dabble with the with especially boswell contract jordan berry in my opinion is expendable i've said that on multiple shows only on he's you're you're you're a guy it'll be hard on him he he's your guy you see something that's for sure so a okay enough specialist stock will see how that goes 'em what i wanna talk about today an i'll tell you where this started in where the stem from the listening or watching on you to i wasn't breathing ace dealers dot com piece on steven nelson one of the reasons why he chose the pittsburgh steelers to go and be a part of was he said the physicality of the defense and i thought to myself first second in everyone things when they think of steelers they think us steel curtain they think of defense they think of hard hitting they think of a rockets environment environment a team that had their fans travel well all of that stuff but i kept on asking myself as i'm reading this it'd be really like that anymore or the steelers still a team there when they and the opposition look at their schedule and he said oh my god forgot the steelers will meet for that it's gonna be a tough one or is it gonna be hey man the steelers on what they used to be lands whether you're thoughts on this i mean how other teams is your opinion viewing the steelers well when you give up twenty two and a half points a game i think they're viewing the steelers as a tasty dish a tasty morsel you know food did they can get after i mean i just don't think the nfl in of itself is a very physically or stats i'll take that back it's a very physically but it's it's not like it was you know the nfl i think has done a i dunno a great job oh great is yeah it's too but i know they've had a concerted effort in trying to remove some of the physicality out of the game um you see the moves on special teams of the targeting the receiver either 'em hitting quarterbacks i mean they really go out of their way to defend offensive player so maybe given that he's a defensive player you know maybe he has that perspective because defensive players typically are protected you know you could you could kill guys knees even when you're engaged in a block as a defensive lineman so on and so forth there's a lot of examples of that so i just don't think the league in of itself is physical i don't think this defense is really does it get sacks when you give up almost twenty three points a game i i don't know if that is why i think the chicago bears were physical but i don't know if the the calling card of the steelers is physicality and twenty two and a half points a game in two thousand eighteen nineteen point three decent year twenty seventeen twenty point four nineteen point nine and another twenty three points per game so i i don't know if that's physicality i mean ripping your head off i mean we watch this team i don't think we come away with thinking like this is a super hard hitting group that teams fear i think we think like this is a group that teams trotter really attack because there's some holes specifically there's some holes with a secondary teams really charlie good actors do okay well let's backtrack a little bit before we talk about the steelers defense specifically i wanna ask you a simple question can you tell me defense last season then you you mentioned one i'm not sure i agree you know that you would days struck fear in in opponents independence period so they did that i agree honored percent the nfl's taken those ryan clark on willis biggie he hits out of the game players fires are really scared to go over the middle anymore that ryan clark on wes welker hit up in new england 'em is there a team any nfl right now a defense of you would say this defense does it still no i i really don't think so i mean i think i mean i don't think so i don't i don't i don't go out and think like this defense is no i i really don't think so i mean we saw scoring i mean we saw ethics scoring last year in the nfl i think you know defense is still you know try to catch up without having to literally as mike tomlin says defend every blade of grass and i think we've seen defensive struggle to a certain standpoint i mean you look at kansas city's often me just look at the i mean we we've seen some ridiculous things a minute if i mean would you ever think that a first year starter with throw from fifty touchdowns in the national football league though in win mvp first year starter means so no i don't think there's a deep visit apd that strikes absolute fear in any office i think officers feel if they could pass protect consistently they can get after anybody okay said let's also go was the last defense easing the did strike fear i'm thinking the legion of boom in seattle agree or disagree with anything one more recent than that knowledge take the legion of boom i've got some of those you know ray lewis lead ravens defense is there were still pretty good start on major down back there you're going back to when steelers defense filthier no so i think you're right i think in this i hate to say quote unquote modern era i think legion of boom so solid after a someone in the live chat button go and they sort of the jaguars defense not this past year but dear before that yeah i would agree that that jack's defense is really good class campbell is really good up front they're really good and they edges in terms of their corners our ramsey bouvier and they had outstanding miles jack and they had those great linebackers so yes that that that was a physical dj i think the ditch strikes fear as much as you can in his current nfl see talking about the current nfl my follow up question is if defenses are allowed to scare people anymore because of the rule changes taking place do you think that are fences are now what are feared in the national football league you broke the chiefs and patrick mahomes you look at the ran off as but they did out nellie last year 'em you there's there's a long list of all offenses that can really do some damage do you think that's the way that they were talking year andy look at us casual and you're looking at oh boy we gotta deal with this is that quote unquote using air quotes of those listening in that now authencity his prowess in firepower where it used to be defense i think you're right i think is definitely offered me that monday day night game or articles monday night on sunday night but that game that casey saint louis k i mean i just i mean i've never really ridiculous ridiculous i mean i've never seen anything like that i think you're right i mean teams fear office let me just give you this is the top fifteen scoring oftens you got casey thirty five point three rams thirty two point nine new orleans thirty one point five five new england i'm gonna round up twenty eight you got the steelers twenty seven indie twenty seven you've got the chargers twenty seven seattle twenty seven chicago twenty seven at lana twentysix houston twentyfive five tampa bay twentyfive you even had baltimore at twenty four point three you got green bay carolina at twenty four points a game i mean that is a lot of teams scoring a lot of points so so i think you hit the nail on the head of state offices are what are feared me a team scoring thirty five point three points per game that's just insane i mean that's even in saying if you play madden so okay let's let's finish this up with this question the two thousand nineteen pittsburgh steelers offense that striking fear and anybody yes you think so even now even without bell and brown and all these other pieces i think when you have a very good offensive line and you have a very good quarterback that strikes fear in teams because it's still a passing off instead had over five thousand yards you skip you still get to pro bowl skill players in if you can't get pressure the national football league there are a ton of good corners in football you're gonna get get i don't care who it is because i mean when the new york giants scored twenty four points a game you're gonna get get so yes it is a scary offering steal a you know having no eight be makes it less scary but it's a scary offerings when you gotta gotta swing their starting back there you got guys that protect i still think you know james connor i mean he i think he he's prices much fear is maybe lady on bell days when he i mean late james connor was tearing coming up last year before he got hurt well j f i don't know man maybe a cheer disdain for mr get my robbery took are skews me my jewelry to see that's so funny about robbery to miss there mr a buck naked these 'em i i love connor i think he's a solid guy the terminator but he's not let bill yet a nother harian bill as well i'm just saying that in terms of like you said striking fear and i mean man he ran the ball hard in he did he did back then when we were solid lady on bell i fear would be adjective but he does you have to pay attention to shore com haven't met lining that often the guarantee rather i don't i don't see people's i don't think teams thought he was a game changer to the extent of lab l a but i think they definitely it was a guy like you look we don't we don't pay attention to this guy he correct argue hello listener i'm sean ramos from host of today explained vox is daily news podcast every day monday through friday my team and i look at what's happening in the world we pick one central central news story that defines are moments and ask smart people help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less it's the perfect way to starter injured day subscribed today explain for free on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app it's from stitcher and the vox media podcast network okay migrated that ideas that are sent all right that was a good discussion let's let's go do something now i wrote this in my an article today annual a lot of people were talking about hall of fame tony dungy just went out publicly and he wants donnie show in the hall of fame he had donnie show introduce him into the hall of fame when he was inducted last season 'em he feels he's deserving in a lot of steeler fans agree with that i i never saw donnie show play a i've looked at his statistics i've seen highlights especially the hit where he knocked earl campbell out of the game down in houston 'em the guy had the cruise a lot of people say he has the credentials well here's the question lance what are the credentials and i know depends varying opposition the water the credentials to get into the hall of fame in you know i i'd i'd i gave a couple of examples in my article i read terry bradshaw statistics and i said let's do a hypothetical let's say terry bradshaw never won a super bowl would he be in the hall of fame no i agree let's fast forward down to two thousand and five let's say jerome that is some of the volunteers that nfc divisional game against indy nick harper runs it all the way back ben doesn't make the tackle the steelers don't win super bowl forty that is doesn't have a ring does he get in the super bowl yes i disagree i don't think he does 'em you look at the games played as i say here's my question what exactly in your opinion are hall of fame credentials what do they need cause dan marino in very sanders who never won any any super bowl no one knew there is no doubt they were getting it 'cause they were that special one of my question to you is what are credentials they get into the pro football thing i think it's tough i think for for one if you're team is successful full when you're playing you have to be dominant at the position to where let's say if they give it all decade team you're you're a person that owns that all decade eighteen or if you are on that all decade team there's an argument let's say back and forth whether you should be on that team or not so let's say a you know say the debate between at and i'm forgetting the safeties name not troy paula models name but but 'em agree every so let's just say ed reed and troy paula model right one of those guys would probably be on all decade probably the two thousands all decade in two thousand six thousand students safety it'd be one of those guys right in it will be an argument as to whether it should be troy or at or above i want so you have to be a dominant player at the position right if you're team doesn't win if you're team wins a year integral part of that success like the steelers steel curtain team in your dominant player on that team you know and just looking at donny donny shells sales career highlights five five pro bowls a three eighty first team all pro on april second team all pro four times super bowl champion i mean so if you're if you have those type of credentials you probably should get it but i think first and foremost you have to be dominant player at the position then you get all those other things the icing on the cake the sprinkles all that stuff is if you're well liked by the media that's a suck if you have the right people pushing for you're induction if you're good in front of the media 'em and unfortunately i think for donnie show i think what he suffers from is a black black and gold backlash in terms of putting players in the hall of fame i i think the hall of fame i don't for some reason if feels like the hall is reticent to put in guys for the steelers unless you were absolutely dominant at the position 'em i think bus was a really good bit back in his air i think he was probably the best big back it is air but like a troy or or what seemed like those guys are gonna get in 'cause they're just absolute freaks of nature you know no brainer type guys but i but i think you know it's it's tough i mean 'cause it's all these other things that aren't stuff the chicken measure an i think it's also tough 'cause it's the safety position i i'm gonna guess there's probably fewer than ten safeties in the hall of fame i know disco feel probably knows that number off the top of his head but i'm gonna guess it's less than ten ten guys at the safety position in the hall so it's hard to pinpoint what it is but i know first and foremost i mean you need to be a dominant player okay let's talk about some players then so alan fan has been a finalist now for i think the last three years hall of famer yasser now absolutely okay dirt dirt absolute absolute all right i think we all agree elsie greenwood should be yes yes that's something that steeler backlash i think they don't wanna put any entire seventies roster let me give you let me give you an example when i talked about these all decades stuff okay so alan fan of coast to thousands all decade team right yep he made nine pro bowls through two thousand thousand one to two thousand nine that is hall will say okay i mean that that's hall of fame any is a super bowl champion that's hall of fame like you have to get in with those credentials any was a six time all pro from two thousand one two thousand seven two thousand one two thousand two oh four oh seven second team all three all eight oh eight oh eight so he was first or second team eight times from two thousand to two thousand ten i mean you have to get in with those credentials because if you don't get in with those credentials who can get it okay i agree with that and also that's the type of credentials you look for for players to get mike mike munch check mike munch acas similar credentials the allen fan of but does not have a super bowl championship it wasn't all decade guy if you were to take allen fan of goose accolades from that era and put them up on the wall you could put mike munch acts face right next to and that's why mike munch actors in the hall of fame so here's a tough one for me if i take my black and gold glasses off this is a tough one for me hines ward that is a tough one but i got i got black and gold glass so you give yourself as a voter you're writer you're looking at stats you're looking at total body of work end you know is he a hall of fame steeler fans are gonna say yes right off the bat no matter what because that's their guy he was there guy he played at the play the game the right way as we dubbed the right way yes or no is high hines ward deserving of the hall of fame bit he was a super bowl mvp one to absolutely he's a hall of famer want to super bowl super bowl mvp four time pro bowler three times second team all pro and more morning anything he made the pittsburgh steelers all time team when you make the steelers all time team and you look at some of guys that have come through those holes you gotta be a hall of famer i mean you have to be a hall of famer any as a thousand receptions yep exactly a thousand natalie right exactly a thousand yes he got exactly a thousand and they were pumping him the football in that game i think this last game regular season against the cleveland browns if i'm not mistaken i know dave knows that i could be wrong in likely am wrong so yes he's hall of famer no doubt showers a hall of fame coach yeah yeah i mean yeah i would agree with that probably 'em he's held a lot of success in he won a super fully went to to what mike tomlin be a hall of fame kitsch if he is higher tomorrow i don't know they're they're pretty much the same then yes then yes yes yes okay all right now is a good conversation that would be a hall of fame coach if he would just win to challenge is how how how many times they obviously did acceptance except in speech obviously would say a lot i would put the over under pretty high on that one yeah okay so speaking of predictions and he brought up tomlin which is interesting i did this last week ants as i said i'll bring it back this week and will ask a couple of questions with the predictions were doing or thirty predictions at thirty days one that i did was they might tomlin or have three successful challenges in two thousand nineteen tina remember they brought in terrel austin he's it does help with that end pass interferences now even reviewable play so eating that's true that tom in a will have three successful coaches challenges or that solves i think it's true that he will have three but he won't get the credit for it in the credit will go the terrel austin in the fact that he was brought in as a guy to help tomlin with the challenges in that's why they got them i agree with you there i think you'll get some more right to say i think it's gonna help when i did yesterday a dc benny snell junior not jay leno daniels being the number two rusher on the steelers in two thousand nineteen teen behind james connor no i don't and the reason why i think they're gonna pass the ball a lot more this year i i i'm a disagreement of those people who think they're gonna run it more i think they're gonna pass it more 'em at but i think they're gonna pass it differently i think you're gonna see a lot of short intermediate stuff and i think james connor is going to catch more balls i think you're gonna see more underneath type stuff so i think they're gonna pass it a little bit more which will take some of these opportunities away from snell junior and i think samuels performance against the patriots hasn't silently as the number two running back when this team any play pretty well i just watched the game yesterday played pretty well against the saints is well i think cheese entrenched as the number two and i think snell won't get a lot of opportunities to sing in the last somebody three these today and i i wrote this one i just sat down last year opinion or the pittsburgh steelers outside linebacker bud duprey having a career rector of nine sacks in two thousand nineteen his highest i believe is six in eight season who but the dead who you know no no it won't i i didn't say double digits i just said nah nah i don't think you'll get nine i'm gonna say eight and a half i think one of those have sex will be credited to somebody else it'd be eight nah it'll be it'll be seven and a half four eight a but you know one thing as i watched the season but he doesn't finish he was he's getting any one of those like it but but i think there's value in that because sex great right you want sex race hacks great pressures in hurries are great as well and i wish i could you know i'll do some research i'm dave probably as the numbers and i've said day three times because dave is your days goldfield an i i'm wondering where he ranks in terms of pressures in harry's because you see him get close a lot you see him force guys step into the pressure it hargrave will get the sack or or he would get the sec he's generating some pressure and i go back to the saints game i mean they were cooking him in why or cooking off the edge in that game 'em so you know he just might be one of those guys would just find it difficult finishing but if you could finish it a little bit better you know maybe he does get that career year but let me you said the courier news at nine sacks correct yeah i think his career high six if he got nine how many sacks woodward has well i basing that prediction off of what continuing his aboard rise and he finished the main what's while twelve and a half or twelve last year you you say watching get to i believe is james harrison's recor sixteen so you can get through that numbers they walk you get that are i don't think this year i would put him around twelve thirteen age in which case you think it's enough pressure on him where they're gonna slide coverage to watch side lean right wing bud with more one on one opportunities in fact they also have some inside linebackers that should be a cover better they wouldn't have been dropping the coverage as much you don't 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yeah down by the casino there's new places well you could walk to the game don't worry about parking all that stuff 'em an if you're on a live chatty noticed a the police his question was put in nice break gold as 'cause she's a super chat feature you need that if he just had requested the bottom there's a little money signing the writing in any amount of money to the show it'll highlights a question and we will guarantee the answers that you wanna use that you can 'em keystone as well the running game has more touchdowns this year then wide receivers it better not better not if if that's the case a they're in trouble if that's the case i mean you want been i mean i want ben rothlisberger thrown close thirty touchdowns a you know i i think if you wanna average what i think you need to average at twenty seven points per game then he you know they're gonna have to get a bulk of it in the passing game 'em you know i mean that's just how it is i mean you gotta score through the air right now 'em but it hey good successful reds an offense runs the ball in the red then yes it does so you have running if they if that takes away from senate bans touchdowns i'm fine with that because if it's when you become pass happy in the red zone where he the seal get the short that could be a problem 'em go hotel i stayed at the hyatt place pittsburgh more short that that's where i stayed there yeah nice little to their m based on a behind the curtains england report and he's referring to the fact that are simon chester was at be nfl academy where ju ju was recently a over in england at the new stadium there were built there and he said do you believe that christian scotland williamson who's be englishman former rugby player who has that one spot on the practice squad allotted for him do you think he has any chance of making the team as they tied dash no i don't think i don't think he's he's he well he does have a dash and his name's i guess you could say a no no it's or but no this 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bad years i'm not sure who got in those years a pathetic 'cause she'd be in i mean his his credentials are rock solid andy field says that he couldn't find the heat into like a really indepth look yet ten safeties in the hall of fame task i said styles my prediction to exit ten center fewer which means there are many now i mean it is it is under appreciated position so but troy he's gonna be up this season i think isn't any yes that'll be number eleven if he's not eighty if he's not a first ballot i think steeler fans will probably rape can burn the place in the ground yes it's a troy point not the troy wasn't an apple every night in last year right yes you in or out yes not you know not not to take away anything from from troy but to the media aspect of troy the hair the you know the commercials with the shampoo i mean all of that like all that helps your profile i mean 'cause to me the ultimate hall of fame measure is is if i don't have to think about it when you when when you say 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New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

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New GM Mike Mayock leading the charge

"And today's a really exciting day for me personally I think our players will be charged by this. I think the ex players future players are going to really be excited about this acquisition as well but boards I've seen path to the draft I've watched him on it he's a meticulous very analytical person and so when it comes to the front office did around the NFL I spoke to John Gale Jeremiah this week a couple of days after the raiders officially hired Mike Mayock just vote we'll just continue on with happy New Year for the readers they have a lot to smile about bringing on a new GM Mike mayock this is a big signing for them a former NFL network analyst who come into the team with actually zero front office experience but he's been quite the guru when it comes to breaking down draft your fans can hold onto as that the team will get three first round picks in the twenty nine thousand nine NFL draft and to lead them in deciphering this draft board will be our newly appointed general manager for the raiders. Mike mayock Michael Galkina is our insider on the scene in Oakland Michael First of all I'm your host Heidi Fang joined as always with our review journal Raiders beat writer Michael Gilpin the season is over the raiders fell to Kansas City ends a city a devastating loss to in the season on thirty five to three many questions remain for this team as of right now but the only certainty that John Lynch went from NFL player and broadcaster to General Manager Mike Mayock who wasn't nfl player briefly isn't just making this year for the raiders this is a big addition in finally submitting somebody in that role but there's also news this week Michael That and more front office and it's not a unique track in terms of look at Matt Millen when from NFL Player and broadcaster to general manager going to sign anybody there do you think soon I think they would have to but let's just first of all break down the signing of Mike mayock would it means that the team and who he today it's also today happy holidays all holidays are definitively over like that's not even a gray area so for Raider always raider and and there's nobody I'd rather go to go to war with Jon Gruden the mark Dave's happy New Year Raider fans welcome to the Vegas Nation podcasts news they've let their director of player Personnel Personnel Joey clink sales go so I guess as a second we have the same problem I do that most of the time the into as much as I see somebody if it had been the first time that I've seen them in the new year will greet them with happy New Year so be New Year how you doing happy New Year I don't know when it becomes time like I say happy New Year but tendencies like tell people happy new year way too long he's like to work with him and his impressions of him and I'm that's certainly one thing that he highlighted was just how prepared he is to make the jump from regularly go rarely over two hours long and you just the inches one of those valuable analysts for reporters and respect I should be like mid January maybe even into late January I'm so happy New Year but yes happy New Year to you I'm glad that you and I is and what he brings to the raiders yeah we'll Mike Mayock is somebody who's extremely well-versed as it relates to player evaluation he after that in Jeremiah spoke of all of this but the three hundred plus prospects that he would evaluate every year attending pro days and office Mike Mayock has done his homework he's been entrenched when it comes to personnel will he have something of a learning curve of course it's only natural given that he hasn't the jump from broadcast or general manager of the way that those two did his jump is I would say more of a up when you consider on Caster to front office you mentioned he has yet to have an NFL for his job for this past Monday ever handle the day to day operations that general manager must you know looking at the waiver wire and filling out a practice squad and working more with agents and just it's kind of a general manager on TV when it comes to breaking down thirty two teams and what their needs are and perspective fits the old conference halls reporters I go organizations and just speaking to speaking like a scout when when in each of those buildings this isn't your typical switch from the broadcast booth to the front the All Star game the senior bowl and going into the combine every year and just speaking of different evaluators around the League as broadcaster and going all thirty two mayo has a list of guys that he'd want brain in I will see how soon in addition is made typically you don't see a ton of purse player to replace Joey cling skills will help mayock certainly to just navigate his first season as as the raiders general manager and I personnel department moves until after the draft but given that the raiders were ready to move on from Joe klink scales on if I remember what I read correctly you had mark Davis saying he wasn't giving up everybody that they interviewed in case they wanted to bring them on a bit leader and keep those names three hundred plus names over the course of each year and breaking them down he's worked as a analyst to to give his own mock draft if you offensive ends aside from Nick Bosa who I imagine will be gone at the fourth pick there's a lot of defensive tackles available there's offensive linemen and for years so if if you look at what is on the board there's a lot of guys I don't know who they might go with first but there's a lot of guys available as Wednesday that would I would say would be an indicator that there's a chance Mike May or may already have his guy in mind but what to see if the move is made and did the past several years he's worked to watch a lot of pro film so maybe that will help but avenue strong number two guy once he identifies one expect the raiders to do something that would address their need to get after the quarterback far better than they did in two thousand eighteen the raiders had eh Mike mayock understands that this largely is a passing league and the raiders would need to get better himself so maybe it's one of those people who you know we aren't sure who that person will be yet but when the raiders have to look at this draft board New Year of early January I would say you would look for Mike May off Jon Gruden who obviously is highly influential in the raiders do for whereas all the rules have to go through the process. I saw that somebody had asked you did the raiders used the Rooney rule in this interview process and of course they said that they had but then one multi sack game all season it's the first time that's ever been done in NFL history certainly over sixteen game campaign and so they gotta do Vic even if you have your draft board things can come up that can adjust where player stands on it be medical or other probably a little bit later down in the first round you have some wide receivers so where would you think the raiders would I start to look would it be the and the good thing for the raiders they'll be able to look at these prospects themselves Gruden will get to take his whole coaching staff along to the Senior Bowl Michael You reported on this this week how huge is that the raiders have this opportunity and just to get this early glimpse different aspects that come with their can't come with being a general manager and so Elliott may may out naturally will do more with comes to pro player personnel but he said you and hoping that it would come to fruition when the cardinals fires are head coach and the jets fired their head coach it became assured that the raiders and he was relishing the chance to do so again either this calling the senior bowl executive director you know asking would be invited to coach the senior bowl in Mobile Alabama a game in January six but really the weekly up is arguably more important because of the chance to have meetings of different players and run your own drills at their own coaches with these players and just get your hands on him so it's not the you know the protecting the quarterback and they also need to get better at gain after the quarterback and I think if you were to choose one of those two in the first round in the top five you win experience at the NFL Scouting Combine Indianapolis each year early March late February where you in your staff are in a hotel room and set that some of the players Oh it's incredibly valuable it's an opportunity that Jon Gruden has had three times before he's coached team at the senior bowl addresses will it be in the interior will it be somebody out on offense a preface early to get into the raiders might be taking the number four overall allot free agency draft I'm to address this and so I would if you were gonNA lean one way or another here in the happy the first few waves of agency of past while but probably a better sense as to what roster holes are most glaring that being wise and then there is just the nature of how NFL offseason works which is removes you make in Free Agency can really my may hawk is going to be just a great asset to have they have three picks again in the two thousand nine hundred ninety nfl draft and when you say like you have strong influence in terms of the direction that you go come the draft and for agency doesn't begin until March thirteenth so I would say around the time maybe March twentieth elites and at times more importantly off the field and so just as important as saying oh I really liked this guy after we get to senior bowl is important Dan one evening there's just a bunch of different player interviews that you invite you guys into your hotel room one by one for about fifteen with the chiefs they stopped him on fourth down so that was a huge Stop made by Colton Miller yet Derek Carr even though he lost his interception Louis St personnel standpoint to do something to get after the quarterback and probably edge rusher or even interior rusher by thing that they can edge rusher they'll be very happy with that it's piece you are able to ask them whatever you want to ask them you're able to show certain plays on their game film from their college tape and and go the loss in Kansas City you bring up Carlson and he had the one lone score the entire game there it was a very long field goal so he Colton Miller who prevented what could have been a pick six he chased downfield making a huge stop and then they had the Stop there on downs somebody that I think is definitely part of the new foundation of these raiders as they come under the GRUDEN era you look at the bright spots of the game eighteen hundred fifty career completions and his fifth year under center that surpasses Peyton Manning for the most all time through the first five years he finished the season Britt season of any ticker in raiders franchise history so I just a small taste of what the senior Bowl Cambrian in terms of impact players and as we revisit plus four thousand yards that's another milestone I mean you get the feeling that this team has parts in place it can build around you obviously you bring up the offensive line eating think there in Kansas City he was stopped at three hundred and thirty two completions before having this interception thrown but he did notch seven Sabino expressing the interest of hoping to do hoping to account outweigh might may off Jon Gruden you know before math officially was announced being hired that you were talking about it the value say yeah we really don't like that guy let's get them off of our board and so just that it cuts both ways but the access and the ability to that with these guys as mental makeup is extremely valuable in raiders are eager to coach at the senior bowl you look at the two thousand eighteen draft class Johnny Townsend they can definitely build around when you think about the GRUDEN era and who will stay under this regime there's definitely going to be moving parts but who do you I think will help to build this foundation as you take away from the season and look at some of the players well I think there are some pieces in place seventeen when he stores. ACL ended up missing the entirety of his second NFL season. I'm just totally threw him off a critical in their development they're going to have that time and so I think he looked at some of the kind of the glimpses the hopeful Russell Eight men third round Pick Brennan Parker all future raiders who were at featured wears draft picks who are at the senior bowl and then a future raider who they didn't draft flashes of Arden key getting pressure on the quarterback not quite able to close the gap you know quarterback seemingly each week able to slip out of his grasp your rookie experience to build off of in terms of notes snowing which part of your game you need to really focus on fortunately the raiders in a very crude over but really in the fifteen minutes very scripted clair's trained on term what to say what not to say and so the chance to actually sit down and play on the fee the raiders would have been it would be understandable some the raiders organization were holding over F you know final half of December and I in terms of making what many in the NFL believe is the biggest developmental jump in a player's career from her rookie year to your second year you're not training for looks like you can expect Darryl Worley to be tendered as a restricted free agent do not look for Rashawn Melvin to be back that partnership just was not fit for a number of crucial offseason where guys Argentina get stronger Colt Miller music is stronger can go down the list of guys just need to have a nice next few months to keep car upright there's obviously the edge rusher issue and I think the the they do have pieces they have pj hall they have people that a step and you know he'll he'll be diving just missing a sack and sack numbers weren't what he would want them to be as a rookie but the fact that he came so close so part because you saw Apu Eddie Vander does the teams two thousand seventeen third round pick and a final quarter of the final game on the final day of two thousand up all the different moving pieces and parts and another moving piece of this raiders puzzle is where are they going to play in twenty nineteen we did touch on this a bit in London there's been some talk about them playing in San Francisco how closer any of these rumors to coming to fruition and what's been the buzz in our last episode there's been some speculation though Michael you touched on on Sunday in Vegas nation and the recap after the game the possibility that could frame parker in the third round if nothing just kind of go down the list of Maurice I in the fifth there are guys all guys who ended the teast and health last month but there's no guarantee that it was but let's just say the raiders are going to go somewhere else initially and maybe this remains true still raiders uh-huh I think you probably start at the draft class and what the raiders were able to get their key thing is you look at Colt Miller in the first round. Pj Hall in the Second Arden Key sends mainly technique that they are asking do he wasn't comfortable doing on trying to do it so that's kind of a a overview of an answer yes Daniel Carlson as a kicker is among those pieces of the raiders feel confident moving forward with him in the future that's great for the team as they look to rebuild and and is a great indicator that he'll get there with time with development with increased strength and so this offseason is huge and we'll have a better even when they are not expressing their thoughts so to be able to handicapped it is not something that I comfortable dealing as I do is about where they may play in twenty nineteen while the raiders are extremely tight lipped on this topic and so it's very difficult to know what they're thinking really liked the idea of being close to their Alameda California headquarters if they

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Best of Fore Play Halfway Through 2019

Fore Play

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Best of Fore Play Halfway Through 2019

"Best stuff that's what we are doing this show it's taking you right into the holiday you know you might be traveling you're you're gonna be traveling you should be traveling his fourth of july you get extended weekend summertime you'll be golf and maybe you're out on the course you wanna hear some good stuff we packed together these best firm are interviews thus far this year frank what do we got free remember a guy named justin thomas i do remember that he came on to talk with us we have justin thomas on this show kevin chappell one of the best guys who's ever pick up a golf club a we have a guy named kevin kisner on if you've ever heard of it is a you did a little thing with bubba watson you know i did i kinda sneaky just went and played golf with watson sat down with him at scott pronounce so that's on the show jake owen maybe are most viral story i forgot jayco and then only arm alive i got jayco and tells you what phil store if you're listening to the best of and you haven't 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to enter and you can win also just goes off dot com slash barstool you supreme gall goni wraps dorn tablets print golf now enjoy the best of show i would look at boston common look at stuff like some of the section quite amazing and stuff like that and we need people able to go nice beer boys congratulations on all that you're doing is mediocre as it is watching this year and very much thinking about getting spinal fusion surgery in that young people together musician hey brad guided no butter on my wife is like new or younger hip or platforms like barstool sports tigers had three back surgeries done one we welcome in from barstool sports rigs end trent guys welcome to the show all right next up we have hey mega mega guest on this show a one of the biggest had this is a big show a lot of people were looking forward to this one welcome to veal thunderdome to a so none other than jt justin thomas what's going on tell us how many times a day do you see or reid or hear the phrase get in the bunker i not very much anymore honestly i a it's probably probably only time i really here editor routed anymore is just a joke with my friends my friends will say to me like plan every once in a while i mean i probably not even remotely close this many times you guys think yeah i remember you kind of a you got squash it a little bit i think he jumps on like double one of the bar still counts and kind of made a little equipment yourselves squashed a little bit yeah yeah it was obviously is something i would have happened and i mean every time i hear like see the video not but i watched it very often but i've seen enough to know that i sound like a total idiot i mean i didn't even brought out a cool way i just sounds like such a such a loser just like come on if you're gonna throw the guy out at least put the business behind it and you're still cool but now i a yeah just something that tournament gets pretty rowdy in man those last couple of holes are tough and try to win a golf tournament and it just was a couple of that hurt hurt that did a couple of times and it just was i guess it finally just cuts amanda yeah i saw that it never reacted but you know dan of the day at least on the golf tournament so that may feel a little bit better yeah it's a weird thing because you know obviously see you won the tournament and when you win a golf i mean you know as much as anybody how hard it is to win on tour you went something like the honda classic which is a pretty big event and all you might wanna talk about afterwards was that whole event we were part of that crowd we came in i mean that was first just be very open and transparent me that when we first started hammer and you're pretty good assume that event was the the whole the guy on sixteen what they're getting the bunker i guess firm are vantage point all that was picked up on that was the guy saying get in the bunker you saying who was that and then the famous line enjoy your day buddy you're gone which is hilarious why i think he's under through the guy out pretty well that's pretty good yeah i mean calling a buddy like who do i think i am i run the world something call soup got body after you just throw them out of the tournament so it's just the guy at literally just makes way skin crawl every time i'm like oh you're such a loser man it's so brutal yeah so so i you know you kind came out you apologize is a the next day in and we don't wanna hear more on it too much but like i said we came up pretty hard on you looking back on it i mean was the guy was there more to it because if there was part of me thinks like what the fuck is jt apologize and if the guy asshole deserves to be kicked out there is a threshold where if you're going above and beyond i think it was rory who at be at bay hill has some about his his wife her fiance that's totally fair get that guy out of here screw that guy whereas yours like seventy apology in that i i just i think it's important people understand that there is a threshold is the guy deserved it fine if not know where a lot of us had the issue is like is jt just apologizing because he wants people he cares and is looking at the reaction or is he acts you like man that was a bad move i i am softish shit like i guess that's kind of where part of the confusion was yeah and that's that's another part that i mean i guess you look at it as a positive or negative however you want but like that's just how things are nowadays like you could get you could be the most perfect person in the world and people are gonna find shit they're not like it's just the way that it is you know what i mean and it was like they ended that was another thing everybody thought i'll look these teams making them do this this and that and that right i mean my literally told me to do nothing about it was just like i woke up the next day and i was like i just won a massive golf tournament probably one of the biggest wins obviously the pj pj but like in terms of dealing adversity in my case i mean really hard golf course and burning the last sort of get into a playoff in in burning the first playoff like i wasn't really heartland and i'm like i woke up the next morning and i'm like why i all i can think about is just stupid thing i did and like it's all i keep hearing about when like you said that's all people talk about it it bothered me it really did and now there's just you know i just wanna say i apologize for the fact of look that's not what i want people to know me as that's i mean that's just ridiculous an i again like i at i overreacted and i shouldn't have done that it was just kind of like a heat of the moment thing but obviously in the heat of the moment when you're in twentyfifth and every shot that you hit isn't on camera nobody knows but on top of the leading the honda classic and every shot you hit his on tv then you look like an idiot and people are gonna call you out on it so i mean you know i guess i could say africa or where it is what it is but a you know at the end of the day if if that's the worst thing that's that's the worst thing that i do or just lighten up and it is what it is but you know it should happen but i definitely overreacted but hopefully it's all all past so the other thing in the honda classic which i feel like you just couldn't get away with this term you drop a big old fuck yeah after winning the honda gets picked up at gets picked up on me mike's which in reality is just not that big of a deal at all obviously you're gonna be exciting you want a huge tournament yard talked to court and that was golf dot com recently published these complaints from people who they filed the fcc oh my god these are outrageous in three of the nine complaints filed are over you're f bomb one viewer wrote i'm hoping that cbs will be disciplined for airing professional golfers yelling f u c k during live coverage in front of young sports fans huge fine should be enforced do you feel ashamed jt gotten no not at all i mean if i if i'm gonna say it it's one thing if i'm sitting in preparation i mean it looked like i i'm very first person that's gonna get on board with being a role model to kids player whatever you wanna be i mean i i do take that very seriously aunt you know i i wanna grow the game in any way i can but it's it's like i told the tour it's like i told people i'm like look i just want a huge tournament you know look at other athletes i'm not gonna name names because already screwed up in china compare myself and i look at other athletes that do something major in the sport leather us older or a big game or whatever it is and you i mean the cambridge right beacon reader list it's just the fact of the matter is we literally have mike on the edge of the greens which if you ask me i don't think he's very smart idea for that reason but it's like look i just want big tournament and the fact that they replayed it for five times that's it's not on me that's on them i only set at one that insane for high time so the fact that i got replayed that many times a yeah that that didn't exactly have the best like but i dunno in terms of showing excitement in a motion for something good that happened i mean i'm i'm not gonna apologize for that but yeah i guess in retrospect financially i probably could have chosen a different one you can count all the jets i remember that being a tough one for me because i i'll be the first to admit i've given you most of the heat on twitter and all this stuff on social media so i'm glad that you said you don't really really starting to feel bad as on this stuff i'm writing on on the internet regulators like man i've since far but but when i but you know it all stems from what the fan thing i'm like you know this guy's twentyfive years old he's my age like like like what brings you said like he should be one of the guys at like i wanna be your best friend is showing it'd be like fuck what is justin thomas doing otherwise he'd be in such like a dick on the golf course and then i saw you do the fuck yeah like well fuck i love that like that's what i do when i'm playing it like the local golf course my fuck yeah right so to me that was going on but that that implies that you're making cuts the one that doesn't happen must be right right yeah that's very true that well not winning any they jumped in something about it i'm just not really comes on the show berries frankie that's like the new at just you know it's a fact it i'm not putting the winter and put that out there sometimes lebron james on not winning the honda classic that's not what's the what was that first tee shot like that v ryder cup this year called nothing compares that nothing at all i just tell everyone went so when i hit my five auto right off the tee box i don't use a t i just kind of put a little dent in the ground and i put it on the grass just because i'm able to put a lower and find it better and i just tell everybody that if i had if i had a huge eight i probably wouldn't have been i wanna get the ball g i mean kind of unreal flaxseed just like i go five with off the deck on that thing that like everyone does pretty down in the crash i just don't do that i don't i just don't like the most shot out area the heart of it got there a zillion that intelligence that different 'cause we're at all time and it it really is especially i mean i was out there and it was the i've never seen anything like that before i know is your first ryder cup but the the nerve level is really that different on it is it's this man when i mean i'm i'm getting goosebumps talking about who is the coolest thing ever just the fact that you know you're playing career country you're in everybody at home is watching you like the 'cause you know show every single shot it's not like some tournaments where they'll show the good ones like no they're gonna show all the bad one anytime you screw up big you screwed up here country basically like that about me you know i i love team goff in playing her america more than anything and i'm like man this is just it's a lot of pressure but at the same time 'em editors a chance the you know show the world what i can do and it's just it's it's so fun i it's it's kind of it's obviously i'm having a hard time couldn't into words but it's a thing that committed veterans if we wouldn't want how were you able to deliver win the rest of the team basically you know sucked i mean strung out of you know the the thing is if you just gotta go out and you get a job that's you gotta go out and get points that you can 'em although you're worried and looking at your team you're just a year out there just trying to take care of you're matching take care of you were shot take care of whatever you do because you can't do anything about the other mattress so 'em yeah we got off to a hot start and then after that obviously in didn't do the best but a but it is what it is local will get over two years i like that how memorable is you're winning a little the singles against rory i it was it was great i is actually funny i mean i belong to clubs down here in florida and embarrassed club is one of whom that he belongs to swallow in a we're both out hidden ballsy other day and i'm sitting drivers and he just it's kinda standing there in boston had a couple of years just like how could you not driving hit down eighteen against me on sunday and i was like yeah i mean i i don't really know what to say six you kind of plugged in the bunker foot i guess it was pretty good 'cause rory is i mean for anybody that knows that he is truly one of the nicest guys and he's always been someone that is soon as i come crawling since i moved down here in florida treated me like i'd been out twelve ten years so i told him that when i shook his hand after the match was over i'm like dude like a you've been so great to me i've looked up to her longtime like getting thrown out in the first match at the ryder cup on sunday is a huge deal an for me to get thrown against him to somehow get thirty beat him was that it's crazy the sound just felt like was one of my best accomplishments so it was a pretty cool so as earlier this fall in korea year three honored and fifty three yard par four hit a three wood off the tee at nine bridges in said go in right away did you really take those going in so it's funny you bring that up rocks and i have a little town of an ongoing battle over the course you're an m in a double eagle is something that is on that list and i was playing with brooks in words it was such a long way in like the whole time like brooks dude i'm going to make the i'm like i'm gonna make the shot news like okay this kind of messing around wasn't playing like right in i buy hit it and i mean i absolute reef flagged as like it i was talking the shot out the jimmy has been such a do so i'm like i'm gonna hit like this little low cut it's gonna hit that downslope just shore it's gonna run up it's gonna go in in a series i hit it comes out like that brooks is like oh my gosh i'm just like going going please go though everybody that obviously saw is like this guy is such a cool and telling us what they're going three hundred fifty yards but i got a pretty good laugh out of every guess it comes on here that i have like a guy like tweet at only eight miles and stuff and i always tell me that word for say like you came off like such a oh go in from three hundred and fifty yards yards away okay at eighty then there's already amazing story behind her real before we came on here just like i just like frankly i got huddle edge hammer i'm gonna give this one just became a puddle in my in my seat and like i'm just and nobody now historic you say anything insane that's amazing so the only show who knew nobody got one did not protesting get one last year new novel but the it this year so we have the entire year so from now on if you guys hear me yelling my baller feet save me telling my going from two hundred and fifty yards plus you don't have to think i'm asking well j t m i know we kept a little while but like i said at the beginning man we've given you a really hard time so you take time couple of days before christmas and come in here a into the lion's den a little bit and chat with us a lot it's very cool we appreciate it are are listeners i know they appreciate the hell out of it they're gonna be really fired up so a cia man i really appreciate you taking time no problem fellow thanks for having me on christmas adjusting before you go i mean i'd i'd kill myself if i if i mentioned this is something we we we leave on the internet we all see tweets we all three there's just something about the way you tweet about alabama games when you say when you say it's game day comma you guys i don't know what they're all just some reserve just breaking you can't hear it drives me nuts you do anything to me i i don't maybe i don't know what it is just i see that tweet and i go i know you're talking to you're talking to you guys like how it's game day you guys don't know what it is it drives me nuts this is another thing so there's a buddy of mine this guy actually he's legitimately worth looking up on twitter because if you wanna look at a crazy alabama fan this guy hunter alice johnson hunter johnson is his name and he is a buddy of mine buddy hall a bunch of cars and he is like i said a crazy alabama athletic fan an unknown in louise tweeted that he would say you know like it just it didn't matter what he said he would say something just called comic you guys and i we just thought it was the funniest thing ever because it's like you said it's like why is he doing there yeah every single alabama football game i put i began their guy oh man see all these stories got rid of stories about how could i wrote this story i know you know it's tough to come on here especially when we give you a lot of shit i mean we gave you a lot of shit you could look it up on barstool like we've written you need a million times but come on here and actually talked to us it it it's a huge step to like i still i still just like respect you now you know what i mean after talking on i respect justin thomas and that's really all you can ask for out of like you know fans really yeah i'll take the respect yeah and are guy jake a who's are producer who's in alabama guy he was over there nodding his head in riemann behind the head like he knows what do you guys thing is so that dollar josh allen look look up punter gunston i mean he is he's insane he's absolutely insane it's just funny you gotta see it so there's a reason for everything i love it checks out dr frankie valli the tree on big all right yeah i understand lourdes health everybody keep cranking you get some when you when you when you tweet that out i get four hundred about i'm like i can't i know document about a third person like who the hell is the three i've never in my life this guy doesn't like you just want a great not a fan of of guys like i always base it off of like what i grab a beer at this guy is either regular dude you're like my age and i always found a weird but like i didn't want to and now like after talking to fucking what is it been fifty minutes belongs like you're just a really cool dude and you're really down to earth and i really appreciate you coming on here you gains in this room right here which is which is big for sure thank you appreciate it bella check to you man we appreciate she had a good luck next year i hope we'll see around out there and again that you didn't have to do that so we appreciate a man absolutely cla tuckey sued us in no matter how you slice it we get a golf can be tough end painful do you know anything about that trend yes especially especially when we've played thirty six old on those on those occasions you wake up the next day and your entire body is sore i gotta tell you i got i have these midsize grips and i've had him for like two 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all that kind of the first time we met kevin and we went to the stage of snl and took a picture in front of it it was like oh what a strange first time i forgot about that yeah we kind of sick picture together yeah i mean you guys see more into it than i was not not really a snl history buff but you know it's always good to experience a bucket list item with other people you're like yeah what is this you want me to go over here oh yeah sure i'll take a picture that's fine wait this this this show airs at what time i'm usually not sober a but it's nice to have you back on you so you had like a little over a month ago you had you're micro dissecting knee surgery which showed me for saying that correctly kidding me are you driving breeding anything he goes all about what he got a job in there oh you did it right on through the fusion they wouldn't give me a fusion of a see now you're you're we're gonna chirp you hard be like why would you waste and everybody's like the one thing i'll do the contribute tribute today hey man like i'm kind of fan i don't really know much about you but why is that why the fuck did you get a fusion like when he went through a lot and i'm gonna say it let's just redo that mean as you know the tiger woods is next level i mean not surgeries max level so i'm not quite there yet through you have to be you have to have a certain pedigree the get the views and drayton arresting do you have to be you have to be locked up to get the surgery let's go back to the surgery described the decision to have the surgery surgery what led up to it what it was like all year long and then ultimately you'd be like okay i need to do the surgery that's gonna make me essentially paralyzed for a couple of weeks so i've had back issue for like five years that 'em and the issues of consisted of like i'll have a flare call flare up in my side ignore it will be a real pain for i won't be able to twist of my spinal go out of alignment in they typically only lasted you know three outta ten days in can i get some pt done a chiropractor massage therapists and it would all kind of fix itself well starting in about april of this year i withdrew from the match play after one and a half matches in that just because they want it to be all messed up with a masters in i just really never got healthy it just i had this lingering side nerve pain discomfort and so this off season i had a plan to try and fix that i was gonna go get stem cell selden 'em in my bag to help regenerate that area try get healthier and so i i had my team on my daily updates you know odds tom how i slapped 'em what the plan was for the day how stealing an a you know i get responses it's from them you know hey try this this 'em you know don't work out today sounds like you slept terrible whatever in that at so one day i i send my audio messaging you know i'm i'm very condescending sending these are the messaging 'cause they're having me to just some of the craziest stuff you know take this supplement do this at this time do this and i'm like all right guys i'm all in i'm gonna get better so i'm gonna do it but i would always talk to embarrass condescendingly so i send this message i get a call immediately my my a doctor and he's like okay a you know feeling in your foot or you're leg today the basically the next thing that could happen is you could lose control you're album that's you in for that and i'm like no that's kind of where i draw the line and so he's like i think we gotta get surgery in a job you know at that point it was about quality of life and being able to let you know quote my kid wants to an a and b is active is i want to sell a lot just got to work on researching 'em doctors that that did the surgery then i needed the micro distracting me that she reached out the tiger he gave me the name of the guy did his and he's been really supportive of it in a well tomorrow night i ended up finding a guy in scottsdale his kind of revamped the micro dissecting knee surgery in a typical doctor has an eighty percent success rate on the surgery and this guy's a hundred percent success rate due to some like alterations in the surgery so i went with him and 'em so far so good hundred percent that's pretty hot yeah i'm gonna go with that they got the tiger respond just like fusion that would exist now he would he would is inching he didn't give me the name of his doctors the debt is micro distract secta me 'em he gave me the name of the doctor that ultimately did his last surgery a in a you know i i reached out to that a surgery center and the head of the console with them but ended up costing more local how many times when i was inside the ropes in the practice round with you in kids at shinnecock would you guess i was just generally in the way a austin a man really made me question you're golfing ability 'cause you know you would be throwing balls her kids there's someone like hey go hit that shot and he'd be recordings and then you'd be like oh the flags over here and be on the ten degree left right slope and you'd be standing where we had the land it and i'm like well a wonder how shot there's one point on the eight screen where a where a kevin in the bunker and i'm standing middle agree my phone out like video and soft and he's just like hey rags like is it cools if i just had a bunker shot here you're just not the way oh yeah that's a good point so so it's a little it's a little bit of a couple of mistakes well i opening for you like yeah maybe i don't know the scores well at the very very beginning i was very cautious like what am i doing here and then i start take a couple of more liberties and like you said like by the seventh eighth i'm just walking in the middle of the green while these guys would try to get ready for you so you're holding kids his potter one handed pots and stuff oh yeah see i told you as you guys that outdoors and they're like don't ever do that every day a just kids always tribute as much as he was then during practice round kids in our a were really good each other socially and try to each other on the golf course just because it's all you got you got out chirp the other guy forget what you're doing but we are a very like minded wiser like minded so we spend a lotta time together yes kids number one practice partner a yeah he he's a good one a me kids in charlotte we play a lot fractions together and the way we would find a force in there you know some order of that will be teams in a i can't tell the better how kids on the team were not on under team control panel yet he he to he was telling me he was like yesterday a regular guy he's like i think i hit i think i lost the ball in the first seven holes and then today the day i was in the inside the ropes he was lights out yeah so you know that's that's the game of golf man so a president's got like i mentioned twenty seventeen how different is that from anything else you'd ever experienced yeah i mean the atmosphere's shares phenomenon to be on that team a you know from me a was awesome into earned it the way i did have it the nazi myself 'em coming down the stretch and in boston and i you know i still spit up a little bit behind the window or did that last spot 'em was you know to to earn it was great is that team a as you guys know is i would be like playing on the golden state warriors you know just trying to find my playing time and you know it's fun to a charlie and i played that secondary ticket to not have to experience the nerves first day of a bummer but also probably a blessing in disguise his 'em you know get to watch guys you know have a successful first day then you know charlie and i kind of fell max and were able to get a pretty dominant win 'em i guess on friday and then a saturday afternoon with a bummer should not 'em quench the the final point but a you know just the whole experience was phenomenal yeah what was the what was the scene like on sunday night with that crew would get a little get a little wild did you guys watch the press conference i did i discovered some shit show i mean the the there that was just the intro to the night but yeah that was fun the fight the next day was not that fun tell you that that's kind of how it goes yeah kevin chappell recovering about a month and do is micro dissecting knee surgery recover you got a couple more months ago so stay strong val if you ever need you know if you ever need somebody entertain you anything like that were here for you bike was guys let me know i don't have anything to do so if you need me to talk shop if you guys are happy the color we we love we appreciate that and yet will be route forty get well soon take care of yourself and a and will talk she man thanks championship kids what's up what's up what's going on doing my bad duties is this time is this time work view is this we kind of moved arnold scheduled for his that okay buddy what is it more difficult for you that'd be perfect i think you nailed it terms of time i think you nailed the most of it only contact us at eight thirty seven in the morning probably about the time that was the one must be blown in a way that you guys are actually at work you should've seen the look like we even talk to each other we came in we just like slugged are way in sat down at a desk or like fucking kids there so i assume you really fired up for so when the pebble this year yeah i heard they might number nine three ten of the top of the hill galloway three ten yeah there is so whenever i've played there we try to play we play like the blues which is this far back they'll allow you to play then and there's a tee box like seventy yards behind that i feel like yeah the guy play with and one of my days at the pro in last week in palm springs lives there says the new deal nine minus three ten to the top of the hill so that means you're gonna have to turn into a green is built for sandwich so you're fired up for you can't wait that's that's the way if you hit it thirty eight at three ten so i'm gonna have to fifty now i it's a it's comical wait to see how bad they screw it up i love get is very funny 'cause i yeah i'm pretty close a lot of the usa guy so i get their side of it and then when they get the players we could that's how many kids who just just clearly 'cause it was a great cause a we played when we're in the practice round last year where they ingest inside the ropes rigs that was me inside the ropes rakes west kevin chappell we had a couple of weeks ago and a in kids just jumping in the bunkers and just before even hits it just starts chirping the sand before it feels like the sand just a crap shoot out here i hate to say who else could we play where it was loop west striper striper oh he was he was miles past you good how far does he hit it you know he moved to augusta play with the motown now really he's got used to yeah he's a little quiet quiet i also my biggest take away from that round was that kids just ruthlessly chirped chapel for his like analytical guru guy that he had with him she's still got that guy yeah everybody does they're losing it makes big bold statements like you have to bernie the par fives on this golf course no shit hornsey par threes really hard here pars good score thank you this is a guy who who chapel and i guess a bunch of other guys employed who brings this like statistical analytical approach to their strategy and help some kind of plan out where they're you know where they should be focusing on missing in which sides of greens the era and this and that in the entire nine holes that we played in rancho his trip this guy to his face yeah i think kids feels more like a field guide not enough unbelievable while they act like golf some fucking video game i mean if i knew i was gonna hit it every time the last thing i need to know is something from you a great this is like dapper basically two and a half hours straight is austin oh yeah he was out last week and the week before so like seven or eight players bill novels stabler he's rich so now let's get to the pj another great showing newer a leading through the first half of these turney at first i wanna hear you talking about how awesome these saint louis fans were on the saint louis guy a saint louis sweet all those hot as hell oh it is a summer shock but when i'm sorry about that but it was packed out there man that was a ton a ton of people and saturday was getting rowdy i think in the last group on saturday it was a it was wild out there a lot a lot of rigs brother brother and just wasted walking around oh yeah it's pretty accurate my brother and so you know i had that big vocabulary no i don't do google apple so we came on so but then a highlight you know getting called to the fricken podium for one fucking person who is that fog and rain well i mean you believe that threat unlike media no i'm not doing media yeah one request like who is he goes i dunno some clown firm barstow i mean kids you're leading the golf tournament and nobody one major nobody wanna talk to you about me i mean you're welcome that's a man who's been smart about his media over his career people like this guy terminally i wanna talk to exactly they know they're getting nothing from me again as you're leading the major championship but anyways what what is it that guy was just kill it near oh oh my god that was so i think it was thursday that i did that i did the one on one with nobody really cared and then friday you continue to play well the whole world is just on you're like leading the golf tournament and so it's packed all sudden and i kept trying it questions in in this fucking clown over the my right every time i because you know i mean there's twenty media people around and i you gotta like really jumping out my kids and then i would start my question and the guy just dominated me ask this question owned it wasn't and even actress question i just look at rigs and start dying laughing looked to be labs and then just like what did you ask again the other guys so i did get dominant in the media i gotta get better at that a lot of the course architecture geeks kids were chirpin on belle reeve or below it is frankie called correct a what did you think of the golf course you know i don't think it was that bad i saw a unfortunate the conditions we had the plate in 'cause it's so hot that soft and wet 'em wasn't major championship worthy not sure that was quiet on that level but a overall thought the boys played well for what they were handed you know hundred degree weather and beyond grass did not connect very well yeah it didn't it didn't it was a bummer because like you said i think the course ten percent a even better than it did but provided a good golf tournament so i don't think that it's getting i don't know that it deserves a lot of the negativity that it's received but anyways now thinking of golf courses how do you feel about major championship menus this year against the bethpage pebble in reporter rob a augusta always gonna be brutal familiar with the how long they made golf course i've played every few weeks ago and they've changed number five before ninety five so that adds another bogey for me 'em but you know if we could ever get 'perfect conditions at augusta where the fairways were running like they used to and i remember watching like greg norman days he would know pound driving in runs forty yards and the fairways now the mo the fairways back into you all doesn't change this far so they they're paying more to the bombers but it's all good if you get hot with a potter and hit it really good you can still compete as young as a shorter hitter 'em tj bethpage got no chance there a headlock and play decent decent fc last year he wasn't running it and i got no idea about ireland london ready to rock like my honesty great nothing we want these has exactly looking for over four probably see credible raleigh been last groups on one of those and you'll be texting me like what the fuck you didn't have a chance i will try to figure out where to put my and you're like i got no chance at any of these golf courses basically so we talked to justin thomas bath may are you kidding me it could be forty seven degrees on the golf course eight thousand yards long listen the yankee astles scream at me the whole man that's frank you gotta come to that one frank i'll be kidding me i'm gonna be like only be talking about goule and they got right near you're not gonna you're not gonna be able to hear anything but long island accident that's all you're gonna hear my fucking in east hampton bro i saw a lesson to for nine years okay there you go so far though as we talked justin thomas mike whether you're goals he's like i don't wanna say them he's like he's still like tied to himself over sudden kids like yeah i got no chance it's like one of the most just like the common answer i love her big like the pages eight thousand yards on do you have any chance i mean tom forty player in the world amazing i got no chance that's why the only redeeming quality that pages pj setting it up it may not play it all the way back then you could come to my italian restaurant on you're off the phone you know before yeah you gotta gotta barilla's you gotta come to really will set you up with a real how far away as it oh fifteen minutes so an hour and a half no it's it's a true fifteen minutes the turnover all right i'm there every night you got me a table oh yeah will put kevin kisner right on it will will make a little plaque for you write a book deal worth a i guess we don't wanna value too much are we appreciate you taking the time 'em i'll see you next week and phoenix all right brother and a make me sound good will make you sound good wherever weaken well yeah we got people that could do that don't worry i frankly i enjoyed you finally be on his podcast you know enjoyed speaking to you kevin and i can't wait to see you up really that easy a booth what you need to be a fun time in middle ahead and go ahead and make my reservation so i got four people common got you i got you who else is coming family yeah i like that where do you see how much my kid give me a frankie he's sixteen months he eats more than anybody i've ever i love it hey also 'cause i gotta ask you one more do you have any advice for guy i know who may have these chipping hips ebay the wedge go fuck yeah man i i've been down that road before sam and listen the kids there on this shit come on who does it frank here you frankie frankie i haven't hit a good wedding two and a half years he school fucks everything thirty yards over the green light from eighty yards are from ten yards both from both anytime i get a wedge in my hand it's a fucking nightmare 'cause it's something you've never seen before i can crush the ball hit it so smooth i'm great off the team great with long island's i get a wedge in my hand and i mean get hit the green it's like i don't know how to play the game all it's all sequence in an attempt frankie all my temple mess people say why why so roses how come the video just went double time when you saw what why are you adding video in in in a fashion that you just heating up you're backs and i'm like that's what i'm i'm just going fast so copier so you're back showing the start down would be year handle and then everybody else's would be the right leg driving towards their left yeah i think that do you know what that means i think so i mean i'm at the really process that frankly i can't coach two guys if you another video this is now slow them down and make you handle feel like stays at the top you back swing swing forever as you're driving when you're lower body george you're left writes that georgia where i could picture that i could visualize that wasn't good good so right may before mom left to are left knee before the grip the start down okay yeah it makes sense but it can't assure i'll send you video from the gym 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relationship like in real life versus the internet's into first of all i think it's awesome because i think we should all pray for everybody right we all need help were all nuts let's be honest if there if you're around gulf you're nuts right so 'em you we should pray for everybody i wish they start praying for me is i would like to mix but so but but no i it's funny i mean that's the thing right the internet now is social media now we could do things like that 'em are friendship is so tight are families love is so tight that that those silly things are gonna affect us well not me anyway that's the right checks and he's still caches works out good which is nice yeah i mean we were friends with benefits like different so now you take you take one yeah well you know i think that's definitely you know like but hold on let me let's see it says look up and smile i love him he's great my notes together no i mean we have a great relationship bob and i get along really well and you know there's moments of tension under pressure right in you could look at that and say it's this where you could look at that and say that but the bottom line is it doesn't really matter whatever everybody else thinks it only matters what we say in are close friends you know we always talk about if you don't know someone in they criticize you they really don't know you says it is it really something to listen to but when you actually have someone in your corner who who knows you criticize you then you might wanna listen so they're trying to listen to that small chatter out there right and just try to listen to the close family and friends in their in their team because they really know are true flaws in overly newark on and that's how we try to keep it and get better at our relationship and golf and so yeah so i mean for for a guy like me like i've been critical at times and i just come from it from vantage point of an average fan i'm watching the golf and sometimes it looks like wow baba's being hard on ted scott while he must like he looks disrespectful cheaper rating his caddy like where do we get it wrong in that in that regard i'll sneak up on this i got i got oh you know i talked above a broad i learned today gopher saying it all right right so you're animated purse oh yeah right he's a very enemies carson you go play with him for fun you see like you know without insulin every shots got a little commoner little something more little you know and so what happens under pressure he's out there in the spotlight on him and he misses the cycle that ball broke left her did this and people are taking can you believe that teddy him talking to me and maybe taking his mannerisms not knowing what he's saying not knowing what the context is and then you could write whatever story you wanna right and as we know in the media the small little story sometimes can get blown up because everybody loves a villain everybody loves a negative story is that why you believe it or not they sell right so i think that's the real problem with it is that we look at it and say oh he's doing this he's doing that we assume that nobody really goes in things out and says well in most of the time when they do they find out why the bible watson's that's a really good guy you know yeah and i know now right and we're just letting hopefully got right now he's he was telling me that like a little rashawn yeah yeah they all do so late in my mind say so my take when i say teddy like after shot after apply but i'm just making sure he knows i'm talking to him like teddy i can't believe you're broke that way i can't believe you did this in a like today we had a couple of extra pilots because one put on number nine you're went this way and mine went this way the whole so it's like teddy why they do that so i just say if there's a group of three pros in three caddies hey teddy so everybody knows i'm talking him not them right so they stopped 'cause i'm not interrupt their mother china make a living as well you know win a trophy right and so for me it's just i say hey teddy it's not like hey you're wrong like it's hey teddy which i am sometimes a lot of whatever two times right you once when i thought i was wrong but i was mistaken and then i was raised in a weird but at the same time you're question though is funny to me because the way i i question i mean there's only a handful of times when i say handled times i bet you came count three times in the thirteen years we've been together you ask the question about right right but we always take the negative in when there's a thousand great post about me on social media i remember the bad one right right so the so the thousand great comments after focus on the negative one you know yeah right yeah it is interesting to me today 'cause you you know were playing golf in win apart wouldn't just breaking peel off and just missed the whole you would do the same exact thing i watch on tv but you gotta look at it but i could tell very clearly in that sense it was much more of like teddy could you believe that rather than right teddy you made that miss something like right i did know you're name's nine i just knew that you put a bit to the left and right now you hey you pop went that way my name is rick ross perot everybody's rigs yeah i'm rags marshall sports nice to be here rico chair the chair my shirt we came to an agreement that this is a single guys shirt and you guys all have nice irishman right exactly what you're getting paid and so two thousand twelve masters a i was there any point early on in the week before sunday where you thought this might be a different week 'em no playing well right obviously as playing well going up into it now 'em i think i just came off of fourth at bay hill i think a second are somewhere around rather darrelle and then we adopt are on a caleb in so really getting there was gulf was in the back of my mind but it more like us playing today just free who cares what a great shot right down so is never focus in the media wasn't focused on me right focused on leading up but i you know talking about my my child talking about caleb and about how great it to be a dad and i can't wait to get home so it was never about golf it wasn't about oh man you three player you made a bogey you you made a birdie wow you're you're top ten i never i was never focused on that end fills in the final group so you know the story on him right up that it's good these other lefty right oh yeah right jack nicholson yeah i don't know if you knew that feel like that helps a lot when when oh for sure i want them all up there and then i wanna just sneak past but i mean you know it was one of those things it was just a i i made a bogey early 'em on sunday i wasn't even like you know what i kept telling him and then i guess a movie made the the two onto onto and he goes for up on me right after that to even buried the whole and lost by two right and so it was it was one of those things where like has like you know what we got a few more holes ago let's just get a top ten top two majors amazing we have a chance for a top five let's just keep battling and then four birdies in a row after bogey on twelve hour time for leads and everyone's focused on winning are having a chance to win until i got seventeen slice that two shots back like i were walking some type of tax relief we could win yeah and that's another whole yes i'm not supposed to be here right now you'll in my mind i'm like i've never had a lesson i've never done this like what do we doing here right now we're at the masters oh my gosh you're swinging those swing oh god save save it telling us that's all the different ways that feeling like i wasn't very clear like well i mean i've never felt this before right so what happened is you know you you you you hit nine hour into the parfive thirteen you just three point well from just off the french rosa to put three but i consider an on you to putt for birdie you'd this beautiful which the spun back you make another seven footer six footer then you hit a centrally green par five twenty twentyfive fee eagle to pilot which is beautiful cut eight iron and now you make this fifteen footer 'cause i'm here at the leaderboard going wait a second i make this in sooners a positive about half where the whole you know my pleasure goes up like this just goes right in the right in the heart and then walking t that's when it clicked 'cause they were baba from baghdad florida having a chance to win a mass we've got tools the go and then i was like oh my gosh breeze breeze and then sliced it but again like said he was saying earlier is is a gun in the woods muddies where people walking on the nasty lie and i had one fifty not remember it but i had one fifty two hole but i picked the fifty two degrees well at that moment and you're talking about having a pick it almost like off its money compacted impacted dirt and i hit this fifty two that was probably the best shot there's another shot earlier in the week on friday spy better but that shot was better than the hook on nobody talks about because the media that time in an m so that shop but i got to my i got to my area there's only one shot i could do if i'm gonna win this call from had pulled a shot off so i got so focus i was like that's what i'm doing things like that you could do that you know the heart show that's what he said he got razer close and you got a bad lie you know money soft kind of live everybody's been walking and i'm reason i picked in two years looking like he's gotta get this up quick you know yeah is it was hard but that was really the only option to get it on the green so so it's one of those things where once i hit the shot refocused and i just when i got up there like this is what i gotta do now is done better though when he has one option sometimes you know like you give him my way harder chip yeah where he can't hit it low high medium run a chip it you know it's like the only shot is this right his focus becomes that's the only option he's he's almost why do you think that is why i think it's just my growing up as a kid no whereabout it's just they're just leaving m she for a going on here yeah my out of my nose had enough of hearing of of liquor called so i think what it is is that day that in twelve if i hit the fairway off the tee right there's so many options then i would have thought about shorter the green he's probably not gonna get up there you might get up and he might not get up and down okay when i'm gonna ship this chip whole cut it nama draw nominated straight so i think it's just there's so many shots rolling through my head right but then when i hit in the pine straw it's only one option to rope hook it so it gave me calm me down or maybe focus more on that one thing instead of focusing on oh this this this this this so i think it's just way my mind works i think the highly kemper can relate to that though not the hind kimber let's say a medium got you know they go play golf and when they get in the trees the only option is the hit it low you get more focused right right in a lot of times you get a shockingly pretty good when you get in the middle of fairway and you have no idea what you're doing 'cause there's no real plan play and it's just kind of like you stand of the ball and make a swinging well yeah there's no clear path right that's how i feel i only have that option then it's like man i better commit to this is the only thing i could do right did you just call me a handicap yes just like a hierarchy after kind of american life lyrical call slicer smith you're flexible handicappers anyway now you do the drill i kept just got worse so i mean from what i saw although you gotta you gotta you're new cut is changing everything i go i'm gonna aimed beryl different like father became the caddy out there and they got any left is change and everything do trust me scared it's hard it's scary when you miss it left nameless and the best part is you yell at me so obviously the temple the playoff if you've touched on it a bunch already in talked about the shot but walk us through how that whole played out in your mind from t all the way through finish so if you go back and look at the you to clipper or or have recordings most like most people do in a who done i have my own but so anyway there were hydration again sam off the board one hand it's just so a he's always chinese logo in there so like a throwback last really loudly while you guys i'll just leave a so a where we at relatives oh here we go empty okay so if you watch this clip again you've recordings on your phone 'em you could see that as soon as i hit it i know i i don't cut it up pull it and so my shoulders just go down and when my shoulders went down all i could think about was two years later are two years earlier sorry in two thousand ten and i had a i had a playoff at martin timer 'em at whistling straights to win a major and when that you know i missed the putting regulation and missed the pilot and the first playoff hole and so then when that happened all i've thought about was my second chance to win a major which never in my wildest dreams actually thought i could win a major you know you dream it but you don't really believe it you know an where i come from my background my history i just i thought this was it my second chance done like am i ever gonna get another chance and then when i get down i see he kind flares is three with off the tee end of the first cut first cut lies most golf courses 'em it's harder gig good contact i know he's gonna have at least a foreign in their means a long way back in the end so i so i come up short so now i'm walking a ball when i go i see the path of where the spectators have now made a pass it gives us the gap of the tree so the spectators everything kind of make a path for you so i started as i'm walking i'm always visualizing my shots on about fifty yards away but i could see the path i'm like i'm doing this my other just more walking like this low gosh we've got a shot here we got a shot and then i walked down the fairway he goes into seattle last clean 'cause i always wonder if we can get down there first and so now he says the last clean just oh now i i perked backup i'm like this is my shot again and so i get there and that's when we both blackout and he backed out and in i hammer this fifty two degree i mean you know sports science when he is being says fifty five yards i've always said forty should be nice but 'em i mean i i wrote poked it is much as i could and then you could see the spin on the green when i hit the green even on the slopes it i mean they went sideways i think that's where the average person looked at that was like whoa i saturday when it landed on the green you never see a ball right exactly so it was one of those things where the dreamland made the ball goes i mean you know like i said it's one sixty four i mean it it went forever on but off the tee i thought we were done secondplace ain't no three majors is not bad 'em and then just things that happened leading up to me getting there you know my attitude a change with perked up energy again i felt like we had a chance especially she when he said was clean that means no trees i got a shot i gotta swing and i was told if i gotta swing i got a shot i'll figure something out when i saw him flair to the first cut come up short when you know that ship is really hard 'cause ask the green looks like it's appeal but for some reason that chip plays so fast right you're going back to where they lead it doesn't make sense and you're mind you're looking at like this is i gotta hit this new one that we we have yeah it's just lightning so i knew i was going up over that little little crush the hill and then back away right and so i knew that ship is gonna be difficult but i told myself par we go the next hole and i've got this is just a hook this is this is just me playing around a golf and you guys right is easy and so a par and then when i hit it the crowd rushed in so much in the funniest thing i think this is where you should pray for two but on the crowd rushed in in this guy obviously had a lot of hydration and so he like moss yes he might have been moss so he he slapped me across the back first of all a phobia i don't like people touching me i heard that and so now it's real and so i don't like people touching me especially people i don't know right like just because i play golf and have a pink driver and all that stuff like don't touch me right and so i love everybody but don't touch me olivia lot more field says many so so he slapped me i'm talking about harsh and i luckily for me i think it's cbs right they they cut but i i do like this so fast i have no idea where the ball is now i'm beat really yeah i'm gonna walk out that he stepped over here when i hit so right when i hear he picks the backups are for people just come in to slash that's what you're doing and then i just i saw it lands end teddy so i finally now i get past and i'm waiting for him like you're not gonna get past what i said danny that you just slapped me cross yet these people these people are touch i think the first thing you said the first thing i'm thinking about like came out he will get a same sex in dc i said that slapped me across my what's wrong and i said where's my ball and he goes is only agreement is that it said that's literally what happened in that said the new one of the lesser into place like what's your relationship with the radical now 'cause obviously you're vice captain in twenty sixteen you're very emotional with the win you made some comments recently about how you know you you wouldn't mind just being a vice captain for tiger woods 'cause you like maybe serving more than playing what you're currently ship well i mean it seemed off anybody in their right mind wants to play if you're if you're competitive person you wanna play but for me me if if we go out there right and men teddy and i let's say i just cheer him or not helpful my just cheer morning he makes twelve berties we won one point well longest other team doesn't get thirteen bird so we went one point though and we could lose every other match right so we're still losing but for some reason in my head i just from me that you're talking to the guys on being a part of the team being asked i mean sevens in the world when i didn't get that i didn't get a pick right so it's one of those freak things that happened where ryan more top ten every every week for weeks in a row in order for playoff events in a row 'em and i told captain i said you pick them this is what the rules for he's playing unbelievable and i and he said why i got a car for you so for me it was a dream as like you know what i get that i get to interact with everybody and i get the helping whatever that means i don't care if it's making you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich right what you're headed to add some tease you make a good yeah i'm phenomena wedding 'em i grew up poor man i'm good at peanut butter lettuce maybe a jersey good his phenomena weather but 'em idealism tease there's a professional golfer that's made the ryder cup don't have the season they're bad okay you just played it lanta in a day later you in it wherever we minnesota and i'm like really no teeth who doesn't have and it's not about who gave three in his pocket i had three of our that's the case then we got hurt i was ready to play on so but no i mean it's it's one of those things where yeah i i've always dreamed the ryder cup to me in the hall of fame or the same level until this task force until the people starting voting who should be captain used to being honored position where you had a great career how about you be captain right you you're not i'm not gonna teach they let me be kevin i'm not gonna teach tiger woods had a play right i'm gonna teach tiger woods hey you want this cemetery while they're only on your shirt for you mission which i mean yeah so but it's like hey things like iron sure right on hey guys on thursday this outfit were wearing so that that that's what i would do but i believe those two were honored positions as the same to me in my own views ryder cup hall of fame with the same that given you used to be about how to win a major avoid they would pick you all these things so i view that as the same to me and then representing you're country a these brave men and women that i'm not brave enough to do been able to do the let me play golf reliving and getting the united states flag on the shoulder right i mean what a what an honor a dream my dad was a special forces greenbury captain got to watch me into that that's why ryder cup means so much to me my dad's last event with the ryder cup he passed away nine days after the ryder cup in wales in my dad was owen ivy's and stuff staying alive to watch his son with the united states flag on the shoulder you know so for me the ryder cup is a lot more like this year my mom went and hugged her and i was crying after henrik stenson beat me not that he beat me i mean i've been beat so many times of my day is fine but it was about this could be my last one if they don't let me be vice captain if they don't let if i don't make it play in my last ryder cup ever and my mom was there an m last event my family my dad gotta watch me play so for me ryder cup is is by far his hall of fame it's my family 'em legacy that we got to watch got to be a part of a so it means so much more to me than the game of golf 'cause i remember in two thousand ten when he lost in the playoff at the pj and your emotional and they ask you why anywhere like you i said well it's not because i lost cause i know i'm in the ryder cup that will actually my first question was in mind the ryder cup i went from eighteenth on points all the way the third because a double points and finished second but yeah so that's my first question is michael collins said i'm not doing the interview until so you tell me about my the ryder cup and then my phone is ringing it was it was it happened to be corey so he's like you made a great but then i did interview but yeah it was all because of my family my dad's history you know what the what the military is done for us in done it what it means to me so having the united states flag around you it's just an india lympics i mean you know to that level like it was a ton of fun i mean you know i've been part of that brigade occasionally that's giving you a hard time of internet invite us into your club in answered all the questions so is really cool that thank you very much thank you thanks geyser i appreciate it yeah that's really been fun are you tired of credit card bills with high interest rates rate of pay off your credit card balances and start saving money look it's golf season you're also says podcast because it's golf season spending money left the right now 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need a come see the world man you got that little fish bowl down there come out and so this is like his first experience in new york city going around with me in so yeah so when he walked in houston like jesus there's a bar to like what but if i've been doing with my life so that was my first impression of walking in here yeah it's a it's a good time of year to we got baseball going on with that march madness going on so it is like of all the times we try to claim we all tried claims people and you know we do a lot of work and they come in there i do like what the hell were you guys joe a so it's a good time i did give phil mickelson a lot of shit though 'em at jordan speed sweating daughter got married in november and so is there and it was the day after he played tiger who and i walked up to him and i was like this funny story i said hey if he didn't even really know what i mean other than he won the arnold palmer ward together the arnie award which they give the golfer to give back and golf digest does and we want it together at pebble beach others and i don't think you really like new mayor there but i just i had a few cocktails and a i saw him across the room and i was like i gotta go tell the scout i think so i walked everyone was like hey phil you only fucking twenty nine ninety nine and he's like oh he's like he's like what he's he's in the middle of a conversation like basically kind of looked at me like who is this guy i'm like dude seriously young between nine as like for wasting for our oh my life shittiest golf i've ever seen like you you guys were like the best score you got hype this whole thing up about this big match you guys couldn't even make three birdies between the two of you might say oh ama twenty nine ninety nine back in fucked apologize to me some shit like oh my god he pulls out of water out of his out of his thing any grabs a hundred like hunter liabilities like a he's like yeah one ninety thousand abuse yesterday does take a hundred and go fuck yourself right in miami real swear we did and then so it's like so i got real wasted man like real hammered at his wedding to end the next morning my girlfriend was like hey i don't know if you know like if you have phil mickelson's number not but the best part was i keep supporting me all night so hammer just ripping on him and then at the end of the night we're going back to like the trolley it gets back to the or shuttled it gets back to the hotel and i'm i'm stumbling to the trolley man like that's what you do at weddings good time oh yeah and i'm stumbling the trolley as my girlfriend's had enough she's pregnant you know she's totally sober she's like let's get you out here is terrible and we get to the trolley were waiting in as we walk out only halfway and i look up and the other two people waiting for the trolley fill any oh oh yeah he's looking he's like oh my god he's like so pissed like he's gonna have to write the next morning my girlfriend tells me she's like you were like a big dick like you're told dick and i'm sitting there thinking like whatever you know this happens on one good time so fast forward this year at the phoenix open now it's been since november that and seen her talking i was worried legos worries and be pissed and i find out the first as phoenix open at the phoenix open pro in the reason i bring this up you're talking about coocher i i got paired with phil mickelson and the roadway and i walked up to the tee box thinking like dude i apologize whatever and as i'm walking up to the tee box filled looks like jake keys like oh this is gonna be funded day in the know still as like listen man i'm so sorry he's like jake seriously in this well now this is what i like about phil even more now is 'em silken be that guy to that you see on tv in think that he's to syria he gets a bad rap sometimes on that but like his phone he's not he's the funniest coolest dude in the world and we played that i never played in and play nine holes that day and then i switched and play the future after but he told me like jake i loved you did that you weren't even you were out of place at all he's like it was really funny and he said i wish more people like give me she's like 'cause everyone like kevin kisner zach yeah i thought it was hilarious yeah my wife maybe not so much that right cause i thought it was fun that's crazy roller coaster about the role in the beginning i want the like crawl out of the studio 'cause i'm so like i can't believe someone would approach someone like that but like you said like you just pulled him out what we always go everywhere all over that watches like really audition for hours of my life i can't believe you're the boss and say the phil mickelson that's insane i mean it's amazing him you only got ninety thousand of these go fuck you did he did such a good life man we appreciate you coming in right now are our guys were not messing around with no we don't mess around this operation a lot of this stuff yeah i'm gonna tell you right now how much i hate the fucking june or july corn and he said he was getting sick just coming in here just a single about exercise equipment and i told him i said sitting now where you live and workout i put out and i'm gonna build me is the john daly twenty four hour gymnasium okay i love that all the things you're gonna be treadmills we have a barstool on it a drink coldren ashtray okay porn going on all over tv yeah topless waitresses what do you think i'm in annapolis animal put up by every fitness twentyfourth might have been going on haley jim lay jim lady funding graves this a male can arrest of a female voice i still arguing this one's a little a for the guys miss much more for the girls that's the way they do is you might have had on and let's go for half of this and for half of that in the cup ice take a shot at fuzzy sandwiches you're chasing okay eric bolling philadelphia shoulders and help keep warm night so a lot of injuries you guys do not offer out i well we don't measure it let's go get on a skateboard how we is very simply do podcast we're gonna shoot should talk some golf jaffer half hour show and i've ever landed on route so yeah so yeah we got on at all costs some even like i'm thinking oh obviously he's already tired so but that's all right i mean yes that's fine but we're not talking about we just we talk about it you literally anything you're talking about jimmy page has a great living african american league all stars the show will just try not only we're over here that'd be nice a superhero john daly fuzzy zeller you guys came in really high all kinds of vodka all kinds of drinks some john daly surgery drunk drank drunken we drank on the of course many times start you wanna start over we could start ls we'll start over one to know but you haven't been maybe maybe that's what i need hey guys we're we might need a few drinks i think that might have like begging for drinks this whole time tell us tell us about your professional i've got a good dinner tonight so you know how it is that we gotta go back down the kirby's we all know nice right yes yeah usually you're drunk oh yeah but that's fine too i'll give you another twenty dollars wanna gave me a night well pretty damn good at it very good and we go yeah oh johnny got a friend of his who could play the guitar and singing just down there any saw available demand okay a nickname in the human jukebox user my hometown darnell arkansas and he knows over three thousand songs three thousand absolutely amazing and just pulling open player wow that's crazy crazy just a tremendous talent on got in about ten maybe twelve this year for the senior mentioned last week i pass team on the charles schwab money list after he may have fast that's why you guys are obviously pretty tight i heard a little river that a there is a bet about john making it to fifty he had no chance i'm still don't think he's over fifty but i painted that pain butter and seventy thousand you know i'd betty we did i if i did i get huge bottle of vodka on his birthday now forty one and guess what it was con that night he's calling me circuit i get a refill and those things are expensive so i did i even put happy birthday on it he did nice thing to do good oh it's always nice to of course i'm i am retired and it's always nice commander seem watch twice ear like i do oh yeah yeah it's fun we had we had a lot we've had we've had a lot of good times are from the pj tour now in the champion's tour whatever they call it now it's been good yeah i got caught up early i said senior tour as my only slipped one slip the sponsor what it is though yeah but senior guys playing at all that the the the golf channel needs to post more most majors one by any tour and they never do that they need start doing that that'd be a better reaper even what tiger winning fifteen already were still we still got more major winners on this jordan any other torso it'd be just a good plot you know just something to make us feel a little better about ourselves as we get older right now i'm looking forward to a nap y'all but a well it is it is it is amazing talented these guys still have even being over fifty even sixty sixty would be the new fifty now is no longer even though i'm sixty seven feel like name but yeah it's a burning out the man german i don't know what the wrong with him he's he's playing better gulf a probably the last six seven years and he did when he was playing detour by his whole career yeah but i think the long porter was a great advantage fun yeah i mean that saved him because he was he had the hippie idols from very short range a long clutter he's he he perfected it i mean he totally perfecting it more part to infer doing it how how different is champions door life and you're pj tour lights were off the same game same game arlene backing away though i mean yeah we of course we don't play for the money that's into a place for but it's more of a meal he taught me to say if you get a car ride savy legs which i do and you know have have fun enjoy when you get in hot it's all the same as any or you wanna win excitement stereo excitement in beating the best at what they do right and they definitely have the best of the senior tours around the world this is the best for deploy so john you guys have been a fan favorite for a long time every one of our favorite players did you always kind of feel when you played that you were one of the fan favorites you had kind of a huge falling out there know i still don't know why people come watch me play golf i think it might be because they don't know what the hell am i do next i think i think i'm definitely be a senate on day thirty then why he's told he's on him yeah that's true that's very truthful yeah yeah but it's been great i mean you know just he's my guy that in eighty nine when when i met him in hubert you know they took me under their wing in a we had a lot of fun together but fuzzy told me a lot of things you know some of these other guys did to you know when i screwed up hey listen you screw up move on right is one thing in this fat body right here there ain't no skeletons in my closet it's all out so if you're gonna if anybody wants to dig just go go they are up on it because i never lied anybody about anything i give you a story or columbus once in a while playing up at a mirror field and he was down at damn dumped see what's he going to another divorce or now blaming it on a divorce all wayman or loan eighty but we're not perfect but he's he's monin he's grown and i said get you're ash in my car he knows what i should just get you're asking my car and i went a model about a mile from the golf course and it was a graveyard i drove into the graveyard on parked in the middle of it and i said now you know utilize pretty damn good now these people here who in this this home here they're not doing real well right now now you don't feel sorry for yourself and get your head out of you're asking start playing golf 'cause that's what he needed and he'll tell you by golly i'm not sure anybody who's ever done a foreign to email but it worked and worked he he he parked right out of it whatever default mode he was in he parked out and start playing better know it's amazing now like a scene when who rent wonderful friends for yeah exactly if you do what you need a little bit more maybe might have a better we really driving a fucking great got the nearest graveyard will go out a little bit of a thought hey true that's true friends do you know what i mean that's what they do for you know i gotta tell you when you're not doing something right and that's what a true friend does you can always bottom on the back and say it's okay and that's what i've always admired about him and even hubert back in the day to you and kids now they don't they don't really mentoring anybody it seems like you know and and i grew up mentoring course arnold jack him a i love him because he played fast and you know just a chance to build even not even not only just get get my car but a chance to meet all these wonderful guys and in their talents and stuff but to say that i'm one of his best friends and he's one of mine is is something that you know is pretty damn cool for tiger did this year the masters gray tiger did he sees himself everybody else austin yeah right i mean think about it he did everything proper twelve hits it left he didn't go to any went to the left fifteen hits for the pines in the back of the green the middle pine right in the middle of green and then of course he had a great shot at sixteen but he really didn't do anything to lose it guys did yeah i think it's huge and he ended up being the final group disease that with watch everything unfold and then sort of not he was walking on a couple of a couple of two shots ahead of eleven forty now i'm like no like look like in a cart pat like forty five yards right or fairway right just a little bit outside of what he had wide open i mean it was wide open to the green so you know it takes a little bit of luck to win to beat a to beat the best but then what a great feeling a new man my i saw somebody want is good for golf and and the greatest thing about that was is that night when they put all the people who said he'd never win again yup i loved it because i i believe in our said now he'll be back and he will break necklaces record's yeah you've been saying that forever yeah you know through all downtimes forum you've been like no no that's tiger woods will be that's too good it's too good with his irons in his butter i mean it's by the greatest arm play empire that ever left and unique he's up there definitely what's nicolas on pressure pressure pots and crenshaw is probably the best player in the world we set of crenshaw hit thirty yards further he probably wouldn't want about twenty majors 'cause nobody could put it like renshaw it's amazing yeah this is a very pro tiger podcast and there's nothing like that sunday night we work with a couple of people who were saying he's done he's never gonna win again a housing better been digging up old footage of the threats were you radio land for a guy like tiger that's not what he's probably not a top fifty and driving accuracy you know to win you know how many times have we seen it when he's going up against a bomb may involve rahman louisville the familiar we played their hit it fifty yards right right out of the water on eighteen and it hit a fan or whatever he had 'perfect lie i mean it just think if he ever got his driver straightened out he might win forty fifty majors it feels like that's kind of something just give me a lot of confidence confidence going forward in him is how well he's been driving it since he kind of i think he he decided chain shops a little bit take maybe fifteen twenty yards off and just hit fairways and going into these courses like the page and pebble feels like that guy fairways is like nobody could really stop from a you know i mean i made the statement that they own the place it could happen wouldn't be at augusta how's he knows how to play the golf course so well and that's true and that's where it happened that's where he hit boom to well john and we really appreciate the time you guys fun anyway i mean we don't get gift show anything at all you know we either did we did we did two things we got him less viewers are more rain only the way we watch obviously we brought some it's multi long it's more the more you owe people that and you guys delivered again that you guys were great has really brought it folks so much further bullshit a thank you guys enjoyed the hell out of john daly these guys have a great week yeah we appreciate it thank you you only by the way you don't need a hot chick on your show something i agree you really do we gotta find the hot this isn't doing it were not good looking enough no i'm not saying that you need a hot chick spice things up luckily were just audio us all right folks were joined now by eight very very special guest retie major champ guy we talked about a lot on this show one of the best players on the planet brooks kept good what's going on pow are you doing good man show yeah so were only yeah i gotta say how do you do in both i own a boat so i'd say pretty good i feel like i'm not doing all that really yeah trend has lost his center yeah i got on they start talking about it and now i feel like i think we i think we should take this thing overspent moving then rocking back and forth but i'm gonna power through time survive man to be honest with you i'm gonna hold on we're gonna have a good time to jump over boy you swim right let's clarify go not just on a bull run and we talk about on the right here what constitutes to the yacht to a boat and we talked about the multi layers is this is a situation thoughts about that you've been out you'd only practice rounds yet any prep work yet no not this week 'em we played it what three four years ago yeah play all these 'em so yeah so i pretty much know what to do i mean it's a major championship will be fine i'm pretty good at wow this is what it's a major championship i mean when's the most the ones he plays in that article guard like major championship five what's that you've got five bj torres major you like a big you should be game play well she remembered by her majors yes yeah how many you take guys that's what when you're done with their career that's where you remember by majors and said you can't tell me a lot of guys on one majors how many pj tour events they want mhm i mean yeah like the whole year you're focused on you know everything you play but you're whole year's geared around those for events so might as well play what is it about the majors it just makes you just when i should think they're easier to in how's that they're easier to win you literally i mean come on the other end on break it down so you've got what a hundred and forty four guys in the field you know at least seventy eighty oven just don't have a chance a the rest of them might not play well so you're down to about twenty shut up kind of end is near i mean i'd say that 'cause they never had the chance just why don't you just change my my all that we and how he's gonna do the majors you he's basically like over four yeah you got paid got no chance i can't believe you come to a kid a hot crazed immunity to yeah he is kidding gossip these are boy a so i mean the majors like do you just you find yourself just like significantly more focused did he do another tour of answer yeah i mean i would say so i'm trying to bring into the regular tour events and it's just a little different different attitude different a different feeling we got you know five or six which is saying a house on saint five six people no distractions is pretty a pretty laid back pretty pretty much of it is i mean it feels very refreshing to hear you talk about the majors versus regular tour events like that because we think about all the time and now like tigers basically just only play majors and we've all it's not like once you get to that level we win a major championship how you supposed to get up for like the fucking sorry drink like the john deere classic and so did i love i know you guys always do that we got exact johnston ships you wanna get out right now he's in a tournament always making fun but it's i mean it's it's the fifth major you know that but laid out when you get up that when you make that mean i feel like it would be really hard to get over it averages when you're out here like when the news all the time yeah i mean it's it's different it's definitely different atmosphere you can tell is different you know there's a lot of importance on the majors and then when you go to another week it's 'em especially you go like this week you know you're all you're thought process you're prep is for here right now it's like that's that's what you're trying to do 'em you know you're not taking the week off but a lot of your thought process shots whatever it might be you're geared for that right so it's a little different so you and tiger kind of finished one to last two major championships you both kinda right down the stretch of been the last you guys on the course have a chance to win what's i mean there's a guy who obviously grew up like a lot of the younger guys now like watch tiger and all that what's that like being in the mix with him i mean it's fun 'em it's exciting i'd say augusta's back now is probably one of the wildest back nines i think i've been a part of the game did anyone i think everybody wanna see him win they win of the season went in saint louis i mean not domino i know the whole crowd is here for him i would not have been written for but i put a tweet out about yeah i did apologize rap song yeah i'll be honest my boys boys back home they're not afraid to send it to me say y'all have said i've street at night i tweeted out like i just wanna take everything back i said about brooks kepco is really emotional moment i told him i show sexual in while we were down there i told inlaws coming out and so they were laughing but it's i mean you got the better of the first you know at at belle reeve in saint louis like how much that means is it like a little bit extra v i took down fucking tiger woods in the back nine of a major championship yeah 'em it's a nice feeling i mean that's what you wanna like when you seven year old kid when you're thinking about it like you know when they go down to the wire with tiger in veto and then when you do it it's it's pretty cool crane wind creating a player in a video game yeah he's doing it and then nuts and then at augusta it's probably the worst feeling right be buying but hey you play good he made it he made it seem closer than it was yeah i think you know you see oh you lost by shot but you know budel asshole coming up in a two shot league he's playing for it were you thinking about how much you paying attention that we were there like seven eight guys felt like that were in the heart the people are doing leaderboards there's a lot of shots five six holes everybody hit in the water on twelve 'em eagle thirteen a comeback from it and then all of a sudden you know you're out of it and they make you go you're back in it holy cow like what how's it going on yeah but it was fun 'em it's it's it's while there's so many guys had a chance to win one it was a it was definitely interesting what happened on what's going on in twelve there's a bunch of guys are right in the mix all kind of came up short a what what's going on twelve wins i wish i knew 'em i should back off it 'em the first the first time the winds should have been off the right a little bit and then i went down off the left side backed off it and then all of a sudden when i hit it even rifle sending the green you see the ball starting to climb and then they went into off the left you see drift into the riot and once you see a climate and you're like oh he's got no shot no shot i hope we got the wrong yardage here terry's m you just hold before but i mean for the six guys in the water right so that's not very good yeah there's you know something's up when that happens right and that's kind of this interview and everybody's talked about that a million times on that whole like you can't you know you can't come up short you're gonna guess right all it is i mean it's just a real lucky gasoline seen guys had a shorter water and then you see henrik in the last few years hit thirty four yards over the green like course back there that's what i'll i mean were not that bad right well that's why it's so surprising like in in order to be in the mix you gotta be hitting the ball well you gotta be playing really well so it's just kind of surprising studio tiger talked about when he said he was coming down eleven you watched you hit you hit and he was like well i know brooks flights the ball better than i do and he was like i'm pretty sure you hit a nine iron so he's like calculate and all that in a minute i did and it sucks you go first on ninety yeah store you have no idea what's about to happen it's really bad but yeah i mean you got the advantage of seeing you know the three of us going to sit in the water so he knew he knew it would be smart to go active belle reeve a little bit on the saint louis guy a hell austin where the fans allowed with the fans who that's awesome i love that place the physical and it's a good sporting town that's what you want when you go play 'em you know we don't get a we don't get fans like that every week so when you do it's it's quite fun yeah it was rowdy i mean that was about rowdy crowd is i've ever heard oh yeah i think coming down sixteen toll we looked over to the left and you got eighteen right there at the grandstand nothing tigers coming up eighteen right we're going down 'em seventeen seventeen who is unbelievable how many people were there nursing that many people golf tournament is pretty cool that's awesome a what's the most nervous you ever been on the golf course it's a friday the ryder cup i first ryder cup i think i went to see the ball in a in the ground and i literally cheated too high and i literally you know how like most guys will take the driver and kind of like tap it down there you go fix it with their hands like kinda just push it down a little bit more but i'm so worried my hands shaking that the ball's in a fall off it's gonna be able to sit back like oh no this is gonna be really embarrassing kicking the ball and the tea leaves a living just swing heart and hope it finds a fair way a what you gotta with a radical next year i dunno man a you know it's one of those things where somebody's gotta win someone's gotta lose 'em it's all about timing you guys are playing well and you know it's it's definitely difficult find overseas a quick turnaround try and get adjusted and there's a lot of obligations we've got during the week and it makes it it's a it's a fun week to play golf but you also got married starts on friday so we got like for practice rounds you're like leading up to get anxious like we just get this thing going already yeah 'em but it's fun i i enjoy it but we've got outplayed man which is sucked in is it that simple right 'cause everybody always comes out like oh there's since dr the teams a mass there's all this other bullshit going on like is it as simple as i know he's got played better they do so yeah it's pretty simple we just didn't play good enough you're not gonna play good it's really hard to win and they played much better and we did they put away better and we did as nothing to do what goes on behind closed doors on everything that goes on behind closed doors just fine everybody's thinking you know all the shit happened in the right it's i i can promise you everybody knows in that team renew hey we just simply enough what's the chatter like among the crew like leading up to that like a big group tax you guys like kind of yeah yeah is a group text m pops up every once in a while and has popped up in a while but when things start getting a lot closer 'em i'm sure like what the president's cup coming up 'em once the teams kind finalized or are about to be finalized you'll see a lot of the group tax are going on guys have already made it and the guy's a kind of a might be coming on the team and they're pretty close the gap inspector something like that'll be you know in there but it is quite finally gets a couple of dinners which is nice throughout the year kind of right right before the playoffs start it'd be within his we all go to were big fans we appreciate you doing this is awesome good luck going forward will be out there rooting for you but they're nice voice we made it i didn't grow up yeah we got a great so go through a man extra doda all right folks we're joined by and incredibly special gas d two thousand nineteen u s open champion mr gary well then i'm sure that does not get old here and i know that sounds really really good state again if you are so right here in new york city a you obviously i mean it's tuesday afternoon you finished up on sunday evening i feel like the last day and a half probably been a whirlwind for you to say the least it was a we had a good time sunday night it was a fun there were some justin thomas jordan speed some guys hung around which is pretty cool celebrate with him had a lot of friends and family there so that was a good night 'em long travel day here yesterday and it's you know done a lot of media which is cool 'em you know a lot of good things coming winning so that's pretty cool yeah it's cool and people were like oh well yeah i mean they walked up here off the elevator ended up are slated to just holding the trophy arguably the best entering the in barstool history trent franks right now gives his trophy we know richard spectacular so you when you put out a you know you see a family in this again is probably a little bit of a whirlwind once you finish those media commitments i saw you walk in like the tap room and i said that moment wherever all right boys school is nice to be done and you know we got in their school there were a lot of people there to which was you know is the first time i've kind of been congratulated i would say out outside the media and then you have friends and family there and then you know the fun stuff started it was nice to celebrate is nice to kind of relax a little bit 'em open up the cup and get some some liquid going where do you put what'd you put nothing we got some vodka in there i i've said before we jordan speeds was with me so i blame him we didn't know how to get the top off i've seen people drink out of it before but so we asked you drink out the bottom of the cup upside down until they you know they told us we're doing it wrong and they showed us how to get the top off so we finally did get the top off and drink right the right way that's incredible i will say that we we saw the trophy and what would that friday friday they brought it over to our radio station in i just i just touch it with my bare hands and i think all everyone got into motion there were people talking a walkie talkies frankie touch with what i did some movement up there and i thought i could have crank that thing okay so maybe i maybe i loosen it up for you i need i need some tips feel like a lot goes like that's a big container here's container it we we had a bottle of vodka in their 'em you know just no problem it would fit very nicely posted videos 'perfect so let's talk a little golf a any signs early in the week leading up to it which game with a vibe pebble vibe like that kind of made you think earlier in the week like this might be something special here i've played well this year which helps obviously you know with momentum but i played well in the last couple of major it was nice i had leading last year after thirty six holes in belle reeve now is the closest terminal ever play the home and kansas which is cool 'em i played with tiger on sunday there now i learned so much from that there is so much energy and atmosphere i'd something like i've never seen on the golf of course and i learned a lot i let the outside kenny bother me a little bit got out of my element early in that round so the the goal going in this week's especially once i got the league was to block everything out try taking the beauty of pebble beach block out all the noise in stay within myself and i did that probably better than i ever have anything in my life how hard is that the do i mean you're going into the final round obviously you played really well turning sixty five friday you're backed up with a sixty nine like two really good rounds in a row you're going into sunday i mean you've got rose who's right there you've got brooks right there you've got rory's not far away how hard is a feed a block those things out it's stuff and you know i go do media after saturday's round in all i hear is my my recor over seven with fifty four early in my career you know pounded i mean i think every question with almost almost negative and that's important but for me i tried it turn that into a positive tried to say hey record's were meant to be broken and i think i said it so many times saturday night i woke up sunday morning i believed it and i went out and it was nice to meet a get off to a good start because kept came out firing right out of the gates he knew he would what he's done lately is tremendous so nice arena make birdie onto in three kinda slow his momentum down a little bit that over seven innings kind of bullshit to me as if you remember hawaii i mean what'd you you shot five under sixty seven with a leading yeah i mean come on zander i mean what what's that doing out there and i think you know i learned from that too because when i made birdie on eleven there i think in maui i had three shalita unlike those planes so good i i got this insane her holds out on twelve right in front of me and understand like just the sales just you know the win came out of the sale so i didn't let myself get ahead at all last sunday and that was really cool redoing any like leaderboard watch and when you're out there like we when we were out there mike is he on five right now are six and like looking brooks is doing like i didn't have to do too much because it was kind of a three horse race right it was just really just in brooklyn i could i was seeing justin in my group and brooks is right in front of me right so i could see you could hear what brooks the crowd was never a lot of pro brooks guys out there on sunday which is cool but that kind of fired me up to you know their thoughts you have people rooting against you a little bit with their awesome but you know him getting off that hot start definitely added to it rosie birdied the first hole right out the gate took the leader way so it was the the scoreboards were definitely there i the biggest one was on a on seventeen when i had that tight ship off the green i look up and brooks is putting on the green i didn't know if it was for eagle birdie when i saw him miss it and that elise gave me a little bit about that no matter what i knew i if i may have one shot libra going in the last one i mean let's talk about that i said that last three days so you come seventeen it's things are tightening i mean we're all kind of everybody's trying to the mavi makes this a breeze brooks is hitting any might have an eagle paul kinds of stuff going on that ship you gotta hit over the nod and we've seen people do that even just watching eighty anti forever and people kind of get into that spot first of all just i guess just start i'd rather have you just just walk us through the entire whole i knew all i wanna do is get eat left of there's a clock in the middle agreeing with that ridges i was just trying to find a way to get left that clock and right when it came out of dead right away so i knew it right when i hit it 'em that i was gonna shut my caddie actually's cities i least you've hit the shot before 'cause i actually had it on thursday and friday i had the same chip shot to a tighter pin so i kept it off the green on the same hole twice last week 'em so he told me right on the tee box hey at least you hit the shot this week so i was a little bit prepared for it but it was one of those hours just turning it over the ridge get pass the whole so i could put up hill and you know try to take five out the worst thing i could have done to that could decide over took a huge david which would have been embarrassing and then you heard the crowd who and then are could've bladed in the water over the green which would have been i know all about it well notoriously the worst chipper in the history of the world when i saw you pull that wedge out i start i like duct underneath the table mike how's he gonna do that the sixty four have sixty four degrees which helps new kind of close it down a little bit in i make sure i get solid contact paper it if i had sixty maybe had open it up a little it would have been a little tougher but the sixty four allowed me to turn it down and make sure you pick that things so i mean i came and they don't get commotion of you fall throwing the ball just misses the the club justice is the balls like that is the perfectly placed jet under that pressure it's just unbelievable yeah thank you land you hit that thing exactly what you're trying to i i thought i made it when it looked like i i might have jumped in the water if it was so pumped it came up perfectly and then i didn't think it was gonna miss to be honest with you it luckily it was a tap in which which is nice i love these thinking like i got it going it's a it's all rosy gave you'll fist pump their school he did you know his caddy lordy who's who's an awesome guy caddy henrik stenson for a long time and henrik and i have the same coach pete down and he even walked up and said uncle pete be taught you that when they needed it it was just go to have them in the moment you know give me props i'm obviously it was it was a special shot in my career but to be you know congratulated by one of the best players in the world is pretty cool so i yeah i were not great were kind of weekend golfers i fight the hook all time when you stand on eighty how much you're head is just don't go left tackle that don't go that was the big deal about having a couple of showers late i could hit in iron way out to the right and i wanted you know look in my head i'm like are back and hit up just a little foreign out there hit a hit fiber and have a wedge in its 'perfect i pushed the foreign for the right 'cause i don't wanna go left right getting the first cut and i wasn't a great live 'cause i slid writer chunk of the five i to be honest with you i came up and i had eight iron into the whole and i'm like i told my caddie like all we need get a wedge john i know like and get a wedge on the green eight iron with a little nerve wracking man when i hit it same please go we couldn't see where atlantic is there were there were little blind over the bunker we thought it was just a little short we got up there is in the middle of the green now little took a little bit deep breath knowing that i had three pots to win were you surprised that you're that you're birdie putt went in and well yeah i mean i always try and get as close 'em but i did know i mean i i knew tiger shot twelve under they're you know in two thousand i that's the first thing set up my caddie once i made it got the ball and my caddie walked over and he's like i'm so proud of you i'm like you know that was thirteen under right he's i know he's iconic tiger shot twelve he's like he did he you know he he was so focused on winning on my come on china set record's ellas ashley road at that in your head it all that i knew i'd better i knew what i would've took eleven under you know 'cause i still would have won so 'em but that's pretty cool how a how well did you sj do and i know i mean they're in here and all that right now during my i how well they do with pebble beach this year the golf courses is perfect i mean it was it was everything you expected they got tough late in the day it was firm on the greens were the best plan of greens i've ever seen pebble you know i haven't played pebble sometimes in the past just 'cause they could get bumpy especially during eighteen see they were absolutely perfect 'em golf course set up was what it should be it was you hit good shots you got rewarded hit bad shots you got penalize you gotta drive the golf ball in play you have to keep it below the whole kevin blowhole which fortunately i did all week 'cause i drove it in play you could be aggressive making thoughts and you know that's what you gotta do another shot we gotta talk about that we kind of skipped over a fourteen thousand fourteen i mean that holds giving people fits for average just kind of awkward like tough parfive up till second shot i think your what to sixty four i mean you primary better than i do walk us this shot on for two sixty three upton to seventy three and i've all week i told my play aggressive let's play aggressive you know i'm playing good let's play aggressive split a win played a win and i knew i had a one shot late i saw justin rose who are very similar situation lay up i know left i hit the the chip shot lefter that holding a practice round and it's just not great right right out of bounds 'em and so is the first time probably all week i i was in my head gonna play conservative i'm gonna lay up in my caddie said hey let's hit it let's go let's take this three what is the perfect number hit it over the green will get it up and down and that's what that only gave me confidence in that shot which i execute it came out perfectly but it gave me confidence the last four holes this guy believes in no wonder i hit the ball out of bounds adulterants over west in the five also if we could have played considerably made par and you know by the little closer but that gave me a two shot christian which really gave me confidence and kind of sealed the deal

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their house decorated yeah we got all all kinds of special things around the door and he just i just know oh my limitations on a kid can't hang something other than the other main can correct playoffs they're approaching and college bowl season is he from the mercedes benz studios videos in los angeles this is the dan patrick show greetings and welcome inside the dan patrick show here at fox sports it's radio jason smith rob parker in for dan and the danettes so much football we have for you this morning rob parker actually was sleeping in the parking garage ready to do this show today after the cowboys lost yesterday you got in your car about eight o'clock at night drove of in you had dunkin donuts i pass by you this morning i knocked on your window and said hey come on we're going to do the show you got up you're ready to come in because you love dak prescott yes i had to jump in i just couldn't wait to get here just because we've been talking about this all year long i mean for people who are riding riding the dak prescott you remember the first three games of the year they were great oh yeah awesome he piled up these big numbers oh he's a lead to cowboys albouy would be crazy not to give the big contract right sign 'em dak is taking the next step the cowboys are going to the super bowl because dak prescott it's elevated his game they have a running game to have a defensive receivers they have everything they still do have all those things they don't have enough wins they don't have wins eight losses losses now and when you think about that think about this only one win against a team with a five hundred record that was the rams last week which kinda threw everybody like oh wait a minute maybe maybe this isn't going to be that bad they'll come to philly who's banged up bruised battered whatever you want to say and they'll oh steamroll them win the division by a third time in four years and all will be right in dallas land no way no how did that happen because because that might be one of the worst losses in franchise history for that team so when you think about how bad shape the eagles are in and what was at stake stake for cowboys see i bought in i looked roster is so talented the NFC does not restrict them to go to i go to the NFC championship i haven't gone i had them not going to the playoffs and all the beginning of the season all season long i was okay well now now we're going to see the real cowboys now we're going to see my now now that ezekiel elliott is back back in shape now we're going to see him now because i felt like i was in high school and the girl kept saying yeah we'll go out at some point yeah yeah i'm breaking up with so and so are yeah no that's cool that's cool it's all good all right how about this week nah this week's not good but maybe next week we can go into the IRA and i kept waiting it's been it's been four months awaiting i mean i did that in high school too but it's been four months of waiting waiting waiting waiting and then yesterday they don't give us economic the football which which is mind boggling considering in his success against the eagles they don't give them the full liam thirteen carries and this is why it comes down to a blowout and you needed to throw the ball down no gorging one score game you would within striking distance y do not run the football this is where this is the game where if you're making the the jason garrett coffin you were putting to t- tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap all the final nails tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap because you had yesterday everything on display of what's going to happen with the cowboys now that they failed this is jerry jones is roster right he's never going to take responsibility for it he put together a pretty talented roster top to bottom are they thin yes they're thin they have a lot of stars at the top and you go eleven deep on offense eleven deep on defense that's pretty talented but they don't have death because is your top paid players are all offensive lineman jason garrett is going to bear the brunt of this and i can't defend him at all especially when you look at the final play the real final play of the game yesterday the fourth downplay their entire season is on this play right it's fourth eight they gotta get in the end zone they gotta get two point conversion not on the field is amari cooper how and randall cobb how right amari cooper says i just run a go route the play before the coaches took me out randall randall cobb he just said come out randall cobb who had caught three passes on that drive was uncomfortable on that final drive he is on the sideline why is he on the field who they throw the ball to is michael gallup who had just dropped a sure touchdown pass three passes before well he oh by the way and then dak i prescott mrs von austin on what should have been a touchdown pass six play was over then how our your two biggest threats on the play of the season you need this i understand we wanna keep three timeouts because we might give the ball back and we wanna you know have i this is where you call a timeout to send you gotta put your best players it all the time out could you need to get just what you said your best players on the field for that that that was the season that could have been the season right now you you went from your fate was in your own hands so now you can win next weekend is still won't matter so you just gave that up and why not call time out let's get our best players out there on this most important drive the game is still not out of reach because you could get a touchdown at a two point conversion tied i at least force it to overtime right is to have a chance to come back when you were basically dead the whole game and say that here jerry jones say he's disappointed i'm a cowboys fan i i'm i'm pissed this appointed how 'bout devastated that that they can't beat a beat up philadelphia eagles team i know the game was in philly but still they should have been able to go in there and beat them dak that all the talk was that dak and zico had never lost to the eagles right all those guys never lost to the eagles together so now they go in there and the biggest game of the year but this has been them all oh year other than the the first three games they piled up numbers and all that stuff against the also rans really terrible teams the miami washington and and i forgot the other team but the three bad teams early on in season i would say the jets the jets actually beat them gye redskin dolphins and then i'm i'm glad you brought that up because the other game was the jets game and the jets play better of labor not when the cowboys have played them the judge was still bad and and they couldn't beat the jet so this is bad and i'm gonna say this proclaim it i say it to chris we saw it on the odd couple on sports radio all the time you do shout outs on the show right yeah doing a lot his a fraud he's a straight up for jason and you could pile up all these numbers and tell me about his intangibles and and all of his teammates like them and all the other stuff that goes there that's a game you gotta win it's the same guy would new wallin's was down and and didn't have drew brees drew brees and then throw touchdown in that game and lost you remember that that's another game he didn't throw a touchdown it is he is he the myth pote for you is he the most fraudulent player of all time there you go with you have the you have 'em but you have imboden at that's why which is the hate and his brother of all time to her boat yes exactly that made on we've got to do that because brady's as the load the luckiest of all time lebron is the for phot- final failure baltazar votes and the whole like you should be like the new lavar var ball with these hats you have out there kevin durant was sold the most sensitive of all talk could have a pop up shop going on with all these ads that was y'all hey come on above in my head whenever you want i could personalize it for you want adam gates you got WHAT worst of all the time for you but i'll tell you i'm just like nick go ahead cowboys i understand sign and maybe that's the reason that they haven't signed him yet is because they don't fully believe in them but if you could sit there and make all the excuses about drop passes yesterday drop passes happy happen every game in the NFL so don't give me that what about the stroz will guys were open glasgow the tape on austin on on throw you know who he is dak prescott even if you want to just take this season into account jason smith rob parker in for dan and the danettes here you're on fox sports radio his worst games of the year right dak prescott is best games versus worst games his best games were against the giants redskins the giants detroit and the rams right those are those are is highly rated most highly rated games quarterback rating was up over one ten one of those five teams have in common their defenses stink right even the rams defense how many times has that gotten torch this year it's not the same defense who were his worst games against chance whereas quarterback rating is up around ninety or below chicago buffalo new england new orleans green green bay and the jets those are all defenses that are either pretty good or do a few things pretty well defensively the jets run defense is really good but those are his worse games so he was great when the opposition was okay or the defense was just okay but against the best teams those those rollers worst games i mean that's who dak prescott at the very least for the cowboys his price has gone down i mean you you can't say here's thirty seven million dollars year for dak prescott after this at least jerry jones can say about twelve or fifteen million a year this is about data about eight million a year that's about a franchise tag i wouldn't sign this guy after this year you kidding me not no not at this point and then there's those people tell you it's only going to cost you more later you gotta really determine and decide where he fits in because this team is way too talented wanted people were talking super bowl you you yourself jason you adam and the NFC championship game the reason i picked them to miss the playoffs i was duped souped i was young in college it was one time and you didn't inhale right no no there's no video no video what i didn't because rosters there this is the reason i picked them not to make the playoffs and people said i was crazy oh oh you just hate the cowboys no it's the same reason i didn't buy into the browns where everybody got on that bandwagon i did not pick the browns i picked baltimore baltimore to win i picked pittsburgh and lebron's not to make the playoffs didn't you you had a dolphins redskins super bowl did not have no you did you had adopted threats you think thank you had that on your list that will hold the games picked i think that's what you had that was a day i quit the radio how old are you i quit the radio the radio i'm gonna go watch my programs i quit the radio let's from jerry jones real fast this is him talking about his disappointment after the loss yesterday the philadelphia eagles it is success very meaningful game of content circumstances within we we've had times this year a lot ought we didn't play as well as we wanted to play but we had in mind stepping back up here and getting on having some good things things happen disappointing setback for all this is from fast there's the reality for dak prescott and then then there's the reality of what the dallas cowboys are going to dak prescott is jerry jones has guy jerry jones who goes out of the way to tell you on the team had big radio interview coupla i don't only to GM comes to the players are never going to be his fault it's going to be here the players and how are are you going to make them into winners because i'm giving you the players right so dak prescott is going to be fine he'll still stay because all that that's who he drafted to replace tony and and he's everybody on this roster jerry jones guy who told me that phraseology remorse has not everything else everything out so it's going to be jason garrett obviously sleet and the one thing he had going for him was we can still win the NFC east we can maybe get into the playoffs and surprise the first week you never know what could happen and i can keep my job but now that's not going to happen because now they're going to miss because the eagles have the giants next week and it's going to be a long off-season and it's going to be the time we're jerry jones decides because he does every few years i'm going to go with a strong head coach and then it's puppets that wind up doing what i want but every once in a while he's which is why with bill parcells for those couples i gotta jump up the franchise a little bit so that's why he's gone out of his way to talk about uh-huh bleakly around talking to urban meyer doesn't mean i wouldn't talk to urban meyer lincoln riley even though it was a sweet right he thought he's going to go with the big name because he needs to take make sure this roster now gets to the next level so he's gonna wind up doing that it's going to be a big name it's happening that's the guy who had the worst day out of anybody yesterday's as jason garrett so there's a blowtorch the dallas cowboys after that loss yesterday the philadelphia eagles rob parker bringing the big the the be the biggest blow torch of althea aw scalpels and they deserve it that was it i and winston a lifetime i was impressed with the game that he had yesterday we'll have more on this all the big action from yesterday in the national football league ode l. beckham's rant on the sideline and more keep it right here jason smith rob parker this is fox sports radio everybody's he's got a to do list i get one from my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house so i can relax here's an idea let's let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance the good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to geico dot com and fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance the like extra money in your pocket do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up this is a way to do it it just may be the most rewarding thing hang on your to do list today that's geico dot com fox sports radio the patrick show jason smith rob parker in for dan the danettes it's up on twitter at how about a fresca rob rob parker f s one also has burner accounts on twitter ah h. b. o. h. m. o. AT l. o. a. t. all at i love dak as well you're those sir all okay defend you when people get mad about your your take on dak prescott and other people at dax the man and none of that at who's tony those those morals who's totally yeah that t shirt business didn't work out too well he's tony so it wasn't just the cowboys who lost the big game yesterday we saw the browns get eliminated after their loss and odell beckham junior got into a bit of a sideline rant initials oh worry about the fish everything is is fine that's it everything's fine joining us down hotline no one better to break it down to the editor in chief at fan sided dot com longtime NFL insider and this may shock you parker he is a pro football hall of fame voter wow jason cole jacob what's up number one whereas my intern music because i just can't do this without being in the right mood and frame of mind so that's number one so this wandering the day i speak at this moment i take me excuse me how this works okay if you're going to do the show do it right and make sure that i have my proper music okay i'm an artist i have the artist formerly known as jason he's the taylor swift of of football at certain things i have serious quality okay so that's number one number two i think crisper art-house the i hate rob parker burner you already ready do that oh it's a beautiful thing i just i other buddy who's like he's such a serious cowboys fan then he doesn't y you can't even text him in the middle of the game and for like an hour afterwards unless of course you know he goes into that dark recesses of looks mind right and i just keep telling him like jack is no good on third down he's just no good on third down and yesterday it's like that that the one where amari cooper was just wide open and just throws it high just knock it on third down and you pay for third down you pay a lot of money for down he's just not good enough on that that's just a game that was teed up for them considering where the eagles were banged up bruised battered and they were coming off the game against the rams so everybody thought everything had fallen back into place and i kept reading all the cowboys are scary gary team if they make it into the play offs i would be afraid to play them what and then you and then yesterday happens but this is what they've been for the last one eight eight nine years yeah they've had some good seasons and then they've had a couple of down there just a tale of mediocrity and mental as much as anything because every time they win a game or a couple of games that are perceived as big games or they get off to a foreign one star or anything like that it's like oh this this team's just red red hot they're awesome and everybody over works what they're not and they're not deep they're they're not mentally tough they are they're just a reflection of a team that's that's rudderless and that's in large part and this is not necessarily early jason garrett's fault but he has bought into it which is your subservient to jerry as the leader jerry is the guy who everybody looks at and says well how's the team plan what's going on they don't look at jason here just like they didn't look at dave campo our chan gailey now parsoes move different but that's because jerry needed something from parcels for lease so for at least a couple of years i parcels was way okay he needed parcels there to win that vote locally me and get the team to be better so that they could get the new stadium but once he got that it was back to old jerry and so jerry is the guy that he's the guy that everybody takes their cues from and and so the coaches are basically meaningless you really want my jerry jones impression now don't you yes we really you know i i will hang hau where i promise you i will hang up do he's not going to destroy dan patrick show i'll tell you dan could be a great coach over for jason gary could get dan and the danettes eggert tearing me don't hang up j. cole we need more stuff from you don't be the offensive coordinator mclovin it'd be on special teams i the thing is j cole is you said it's not jason garrett but obviously he's going to be the guy hi that bears the brunt of everything he's got all right but he when when i look at the final play yesterday and i see okay here's fourth in eight and this is is your entire season and amari cooper n. randall cobb are both not in the game cobb has been your best receiver on the drive was uncomfortable amari cooper who is your guy i i look and go what was that and you had three timeouts well i mean look i will say that that begs the question what are you think and that's where you just sit there and you know your seasons on the line your best guys have to be on the field there's no rotation this or rotation that it's like you get those guys out there at the same time even if you have cooper and cobb on the field he's probably probably gonna throw to the single on against the number four corner dollars you know it is a good receiver he's been very effective this year right so he's probably gonna throw that path anyways golladay just wasn't good enough sidney jones there heck of a job nice job of coverage so i'm not sure that the play actually ended up being any different because you're looking for one on one coverage and that's what you've got on that play which begs the question of gym shorts but he got away with it because jones is such an effective job i look my my question is i forget the one play what happened the first fifty nine plus minutes when you only score three field goals with all the talent then and solid philadelphia you know his brand bring the woodall season right like they're not this awesome right but you've got zeke elliott those receivers and you put three field goals up that's a much bigger concern me then than the one last play that that really haunts me j cole hop out this our producer just in tolosa stat i don't know where he got it from but that since two thousand since completely completely made it up in ten years right since two thousand ten two thousand ten that only up all the major sports and all the coaches is that there's only there's a list of coaches that haven't won a championship since twenty ten and guess how many people on that list that are still zillow coach till around garrett that's it that's the only one guy i mean what what what what they have done what they have accomplished is really hard to okay 'cause normally they normally the owner comes in and so this is just not good enough and giving especially with the talent that we have you're supposed to have done something by now right the thing about it is that jerry jerry very kept garrett to garrett played along with what jerry wind he acquiesced and so it was a you know this is this whole thing has always been a it's not quite a death spiral but it's it's like mediocrity spiral it's like you know nobody's in charge and you just act with jerry so again the coach means nothing and and ultimately you just end up with a mediocre team year after year because you don't have have you have a lot of talent but you don't have no leadership and that's what the that's what the cowboys have done and this is what jerry has create aid because this is what jerry wants jerry wants to be in charge now he'll give up a little bit of that rope every once in a while but overall he wants total control all the stuff he said he said we accomplish something that was difficult to do so i'll take that as a compliment from jason ring with that it and it'll just be like jimmy was here i was the one in charge because all those things jimmy did that team he created that was that was really me it was me 'cause i proved it when i brought in switzer everybody knows he was dumb as a stump okay hey happy me somewhere in the it's me i know my impressions way better than yours is yours you sounds like your run out of breath after after every few seconds though that jason cole is our guest editor achievement fan sided dot com longtime sometime NFL insider are now from where things are bad to where things are just as bad we watch cleveland get eliminated from the playoff chase yesterday there's a lot of drama about odell beckham that come in his sideline ranted freddie kitchens boy this you know if if this isn't the poster child team for hey when things go good things are okay hey when things go bad things are what they are the ultimate and obi jay is just a complete weather van if it's blonde bad he's gone on right with it you know he's he's worthless as later i mean all those things about rudderless and worthless leaderless i mean you apply those to OB jay and freddie and myles garrett and the rest of that crew i'm out talking to the people in that in that building and they're just they're dumb struck by how little leadership there is a team scene and browns fans just like they did they lived in denial it's like the dude's not showing up in the off season if the dude is showing up up in the off season and doesn't want to be there working with you what do you think it's gonna be like when things get hard in the regular season you lose a few games that's what that's what oth DJ's career is defined by and here's the other part won't last time he was really any good we look three years ago now the talented challenges there we all recognize that i'm not i'm not questioning that but at the end of the day this is about production and for three straight years he hasn't produced not like a superstar not like not like the diva he acts like i mean 'cause he's certainly more of a diva than i am but but i got quality but isn't this bigger than just him freddie kitchens and now he's he's a symptom of a bigger problem ah which is exactly they have no i mean they hired they tried to force a freddie kitchen on every coach came in for an interview said you had to take him baker mayfield put numbers go back and look last year beat one team over five hundred beat any team did you pick them before the season to make eight to play off the browns i picked to buy into this hype because i wanted to be spectacular i i never bought into it i never bought into i just what i always said they have no leaders and when your highest paid guy doesn't show up that reflects on the team right but they take their cue from the highest paid got so yeah this is part of the problem and freddie kitchens the problem is is actually the other way it's everybody that they hired for that staff none of those guys were freddie's guys didn't hire them coaching style which is ridiculous hardcore carded for right and see this is all this is all part of it now he's not a leader okay he's he's at least not yet and he proved that with that you know that stupid pittsburgh they started shirt you know you look you won the game walkaway from just the happy right but again and again he's not that guy john dorsey should have just any should do it now which is just call mike mccarthy and i look i know mccarthy is not the most popular coach coach in the world but he knows how to run a program it's sort of like marty schottenheimer marty schottenheimer might not win you a championship mccarthy has won the championship yeah but he might not win the championship but he's gonna make you win games and he's gonna run a good program he's going to get guys going the right direction and there's a lot lot to that and then you hope that everything comes together so dorsey should just say okay i made a mistake here get rid of kitchen mccarthy what do you want just you know look look we're friends i know it's going to cost me a lot what do you want and just get get yourself here and that's what he should do and just you know run run have a well run on program by a guy who knows how to run a team you can follow me on twitter at jason cole sixty two that is at jason cole sixty two all your pro football hall hall of fame voter needs as well go along with that twitter account serious conversation that may be looked at for pro football hall of fame better yeah you don't wanna take this stuff you and i do at night you don't wanna put they'll oh fire you from it the the ban further on your normal nobody in the country listens right i never miss that show i never listened to never remiss an air changing the locks in kansas speed jason yeah you wanna throw that kind of fire your j. paul happy happy holidays my friend we'll talk soon america's cammisa easy jason culina you brought to you by mercedes AMD driving performance you know this is the funny thing about the browns and here you know here's mike mccarthy what do you want out to come and do this freddie kitchens is going to go because obviously he is not cut out for this he's like rex ryan light he's less was less ready to to be a head coach rex ryan was but he still thinks he can be that bombastic john got through the AFC right exactly he had he had early success and then never was able learn from his mistakes because when he access that early it's hard to realize oh i was doing things a little bit differently and the butt fumble help but i ask you this is the browns rounds good job is the browns a job that might mccarthy wants it was a great job last year when baker mayfield was coming off his rookie you thought he was going to be really good step back and changes ranges you you signed kareem hunt who was going to come in and be great jarvis landry comes in odell beckham is coming in this is great now is this a good job are you in a position listen to succeed and they couldn't get guys last year when the when when the job look good because there was so much volatility while also the but but a big part of it was it's just what happened to kitchens where they hired as staff they wanted that whoever took the job had to take freddie kitchens because of its relationship with baker mayfield and you i noticed jason you can't have coaches you can't do that you you can't do it when you force somebody on a coach and say you gotta have your own guys is in guys you believe in and have been you know been the war with and you know who they are and take us staff and how people put together staff it's it's it's a bad look and that's that's why they all wear they are they made a huge mistake and force feeding freddie kitchen but even even if you do that now let's say you tell the coach come in you'll have control you bring in your own guys are you in a position to succeed i mean that's it or unique position to fail i think i could allan allan you're expected to get to the super bowl and if you don't it's your fault because they elevated baker mayfield into being the most important person in the organization and we have no idea if he's any good he was terrible this year and freddie freddie kitchens was his guy right that's why freddie kitchens got the job right he was baker mayfield was impressive last year now was he impressive in two games against the bengals and just okay against the rest of the league that's what it looks like because this year he's been bad i mean i think he's a thirty second rated quarterback in the NFL that's terrible to weapons he has it seems inconceivable besides i mean is it a good job can you come in and say oh i can win with baker mayfield or is it boy i don't know if this quarterbacks and he good but he's not going to get any of the blame because he's the guy you anointed did he's the most important person in the organization and then you have odell and all the drama he brings and you know what all the offseason headlines is ian is he out you're going to hear reports sorts in the off season noelle's not happy so who wants this job if they couldn't get anybody last year how are they going to get somebody now i think they still can get some only from the standpoint most of the time on when you take over a team this because there's issues there and that that's the reason the other coach got fired right so you know most of the time you are taking on something and nobody's can you a great team and everything's working right you wouldn't be that other guy was his job so you have to look at the only thing if i'm a perspective coach do they have to i can't win without talent cannot fix some things fixed the locker room put a different philosophy on it you know what i mean and if i'm mike mccarthy they have to like well i wanna champ super bowl i got a chance that they can listen to me because i can go on and say we raise the trophy at the end of the year a lot of guys don't have that ed cash as so it's harder to buy people go when we listen to this to make is greed of quarterback gayer avital vita like something i'm going to say i get nothing is my fault nothing's look and when things happen i'm going to talk about i'm upset because you're not treating odell injury the right way okay do johnson should be high players public google talk to the head coach in his office rather than to the media but i get your point point i just think if i'm a coach at i was sitting on the sidelines and i'm looking for an opportunity the thing i want the most is the have some talent to where have a chance to win that's that's all i got to do with it in shape do whatever i have to do but i don't want to take a team with a cupboard's bare and i'm gonna get wacked in two years anyway i see i look at it has your inheriting guys that you know you can win and you're expected to go in with these guys well wait so now i'm coming in and you're asking me to win with guys i might not want on the team or have as my quarterback back number one wide receiver anything i mean that's that's a tough job tough twitter at how about a fresca robert rob parker f s one jason smith rob parker in for dan and the dan that's coming up next more NFL overload continues there's a guy i can make a pretty good argument for for NFL MVP and his name is not lamar jackson that's coming up next radio fox sports radio hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast we certainly couldn't do without either of you you and i wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button and there you will see all our wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting and now back to the show fox sports radio the dan patrick show jason smith rob parker in for dan and the danettes twitter at how about a fresca robert rob parker refuse one uh and just real quick i just wanna say you spent the early part of this hour taller but you know you talked about jack prescott i told everybody the jets were gonna win yesterday everybody by noon you i knew they were going to show up i know look it's my team i know and they're going to show and i know and they're not and i'm enjoying everybody thanking me on twitter for your titans fans everybody thanks for beating the steelers yeah like i had a lot to do with like you like you out there on the field i was just sitting on that should have been able to even i even knew i said it's going to be like a seventeen sixteen sixteen thirteen type game it's going to be ugly they'll put enough points up sure enough sixteen ten i really i mean that's a big blow to pittsburgh they needed to win they've gone so far this year and mike tomlin clearly you know see what kind of coach is be able to lose is all stars and still stay relevant i get this is really this is really a flawed team and they this is as far as you're gonna go with that kind of a resident jets fan of fox sports radio are you you said they will win the game but it doesn't help the jets where they draft actually a losing around by winning would you rather where i'm just i'm asking if we have one win or two wins i would different win right in the middle of the pack and we're going to get adam gates next year anyway so how excited can i really if they win the last game and finish what seven and nine hundred and nine great look he's going to be great he's terrible he is absolutely terrible but now we're gonna get him for one more year at least one more but at least you know the jets wound up winning more games i actually had them as a wildcard i i like the way the team was put together i wasn't that crazy i'm with you about hiring adam gates who didn't do anything in miami why is that i didn't get that but it is what it is so from that game i told you michael thomas now sits at one hundred and forty five reception county he is the all time leader in NFL history after passing marvin harrison yesterday in the saints win and for all the talk and there's something we talked about ah on a night show for awhile lamar jackson clearly is going to be the MVP of the NFL for for all the talk about lamar russell wilson wilson we'll give vote he'll get votes won't be unanimous some some people were all going at one point that it it should be unanimous it's not going to be unanimous but but here but here's the thing is good of seasons russell wilson john is having lamar jackson just has the factor about him and what he was the jump he was able to make he's got his team the best team in the AFC and the odds on favorite to win the super bowl and people would would look and say well he has eleven other pro bowl is on his team is it all him you know he's getting all the credit and accolades they got a hell of a football team their baltimore komo all they do but he's also leading the league in touchdowns i and he's run for thousand mile both houses you need to do he would get my vote so i'm not saying that but i think that there are other people out there who who might not follow suit and say that what russell wilson was able to do right he did he only has one other pro bowl on his team well that's why i hi can make a great argument from michael thomas as the MVP fell right he's going to get to the number that cut through the clutter hundred and fifty receptions right all time leader after he is gonna they're gonna do everything they can to get in those five catches next week hundred fifty receptions number we've never seen marvin harrison's record stood for seventeen years but more importantly is that there's nobody else that you can throw the ball to in new orleans he has over a hundred more catches than the next closest receiver to him jared cook has forty one catches but you have to number two he's got one hundred and forty five the only guy defenses role towards michael thomas and still he makes those catches instill instill he's the only guy in that offense lot of wide receiver has never won so you're trying to like shadow record and here's the other thing the other right could you just go out for seventeen eighteen years the only problem i have with this is they throw a hell of a lot more now so some numbers of skewed is just like even even even dak prescott of some of these guys with all the numbers the second most most george ever in the history of dallas cowboy passing yards right second all-time well they throw older football a lot and the other in the old days they didn't go to football at this rate so even i'm not trying to poo poo what still they throw the fight all the time now and it's still stood for seventeen in years i get it but they throw a lot more the last couple of years than they ever have and i just the record is a little a little hollow to me it's going to be one hundred and nine hundred ten one hundred twenty now it's going to be a one hundred foot to agree that they throw the football do okay that's all i'm saying throw it more but one hundred fifty when there's nobody else i mean think about it i don't think he's MVP worthy when you think about somebody other seasons that the two quarterbacks have i've had when we talk about jackson and wilson and and just a history of the award it would be so earth's shattering story because if if that was the case when the record was set seventeen years ago why why did he get the MVP you're the h. wrote now's awesome is wide receiver of all time painting on a guy who gonna do something and i agree if you're if you're a wide receiver your non quarterback you need to do something special that no one's ever seen before hundred and fifty catches now if he was able to get to two thousand yards one fifty in two thousand i would say that's a tossup between him and lamar now he's not going to get to two thousand yards you're gonna probably finish up around eighteen hundred which still a phenomenal number i'm not even trying to discount you talk about lamar jackson pro bowlers like i said alvin kamera's the only guy catching passes and he's doing it out of the backfield nobody he's got one hundred more receptions then the next closest pass catch one hundred more so you know how teams role coverages towards him instill that big wingspan he doesn't drop he at one drop passed less twenty five games we that's how good he is his first four years the league have been absolutely amazing i get it and he set a record but i just think where we are in the NFL oh and when you take a look at what lamar did this year a lot of people you have bill polian before he was even draft talking about he should try out for wide receiver and people who totally discounted him despite him winning heisman we've seen a lot of guys went heisman and not be able to do anything in the NFL so that's not that shocking even wanna the heisman but he he shook up the NFL this year you gotta give them that and i think that's why he'll be the MVP yeah i i'm just hoping that michael thomas gets the lovey should he should finish second 'cause if you're talking about two quarterbacks and you're giving it to lamar jackson i will then russell wilson can't be the MVP michael thomas should it'd be that should be that guy you want him to be like jerry rice who finished second one time as MVP sherry should he should be he should be number two with a bullet and if he had two thousand yards i'd say it'd be a tossup awesome yeah because those are numbers that just no matter what you want to say that cuts through one hundred fifty to one thing is when you think about this football season two thousand nine hundred and you think about lamar jackson you do do but you do but you can't tell the story of the season without michael thomas being at the very top one hundred and fifty rob one fifty me think about the cowboys thinking as well canoeing about that that's out there too so there's that but that's a good thing for most people uh speaking of the dallas cowboys jason smith rob parker in for dan the danettes here on fox sports radio radio coming up next as bad loss was for the cowboys the most fun thing from the game america saw yesterday might have been from the post game press conference you'll hear it coming coming up next right here this is fox sports radio what's 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4)

"No strings better be coming with no strings better be coming with no strings is just keep saying that over and over again I got a really big teen repeat find a catchphrase yes it just keep it going like this keys headline they think it's great but I would argue that pizza it's a mental thing when you think pizza you think birthday party the question is pizza top five food the answer would be the choices to be no just party food and yes it's Yummy seventy three percent of the people are the cheese is part but let's he gave me a hard time because I said one of the Great Fried Greasy foods is a corn dog and he's like Oh that's for six year olds and one and I did put up a poll at a Raj groups at Raj grabs on twitter excuse me is a pizza atop T. five food is going indulging greasy food another one that you can't go wrong on fish and chips you gotta have White Fish though short little English French fries I don't want a little stubby ones I want the long American ones all right well inland but your that reminds me of the corn dog and out of this past year twelve but not so you need to understand that there's a couple of different versions pizza the cheese has to be right yeah no that's that's we can afford domino okay oh good I'm glad I'm glad we can afford little caesars into one pizza all right yeah but I'm not those he's talking about like there's a spot in the valley called the Doghouse is H. A. U. Germ in they got the they get you give a corn dog to a six year old because they'll eat it but if you get a good corn dog that's done right with a good hot dog inside whatever kind of sauce you like this really really you weren't fish sticks as your appetite those are gross I'll give you that but a Corner Hawk corridor corn dogs right he's not talking about hot dog on a stick corn in a dip it into the corn meal in deep fry so if you wanna chicken apple sausage you WanNa you wanNA bother you want spicy you wanNA spicy corn dog with a spicy Italian display where you pick out the sausage of the dog that you want and you can make it on Hawaiian Bun I've you want to in terms of doing it right and also you pick out the dog and he's not talking about the corn dogs you buying the big box from Costco it's like seventy of them you can keep them in the freezer forever sausage inside they're gonNa make it right yes but that too much grease though you can't really you know like I'm not seeing you every day in a lot for a different teams kinda statement oriented games and we went through and before Carolina forty niners Green Bay Kansas City Cleveland in New England who I was selling to on certain days or Hey oh man is that little square piece of pizza they caught fire with the right teams at the right time and McCaffrey all of a sudden even though he's played well all of a sudden he's become something more for them yeah I would argue it's a party food and it's just the environment you think of our talks but people like the pizza now travis you brought up one of your favorite greasy foods and I thought people should yes you're right you're right about that so you get a little habit that has got to be right darn good and it can't be to bread we'll like those little teeny Jason Kidd lunch at school what was your favorite lunch you know when they had like a corn dog day fantastic day I used to love that's an easy answer I really to be honest with you as a key from an offensive standpoint because Cam Newton is not in and they have to rely on him even more now I think yes to the Carolina piece there's nothing about it when you start that is really think about it though when you start counting up they wins the opponents people are looking at the opponents and say we beat them beat them dam beat anybody beat the rams soundly sound rams have won this weekend over the pond across the pond when we stadium we're joined yeah things all laid out in there that was headlining morning listen to K. SPN Los Angeles Games this weekend key there's a lot of games Oakland raiders there in Houston take on the Texans and you like you you think this is the biggest game for Carolina and San Francisco it is I think when you look at the two teams here off San Francisco has anything to prove anymore they're six no they their defense is legit there's I mean you look at that defense that front four especially those guys Carolina's obviously been playing well says he took over at the quarterback spot it hasn't been necessarily him engineering dries and cabinet all the defense has played better both have something to prove San Francisco's trying to prove that they belong amongst the elites and Caroline is trying to prove that Cam Newton Dunn's belong at the quarterback spot and they wanna go in and practices wrapped up so just about what you'd expect of you had any strawberries and scones you they have not have not but I rams of have been in these situations before they've traveled and they kind of know how to do the traveling but there's players over there on the team that haven't been to London having played in this type of it hosted by the the lunch tickets kids Z. Theory joining us from London the rams and the bengals coming up on Sunday morning ten am west coast time pregame show key starts at seven o'clock myself and Kirk Morrison Environment and situation how are they adjusting to the time zone and all the things that they the attractions in everything that they have to deal with their credit leaning on the right now by Lindsey theory covers the rams for espn how is it over there lindsay good morning guys I good at good evening from like that it's rainy it's does it need to look a certain way especially ostensibly against the bengals yeah I think that they definitely continue to build momentum you know they're they're very self-aware around her tashaun food and use the cast across the jump over the gate and go to like McDonald's save it when I was a Michio save it to go I'll wait to get home does it have to look a certain way lindsay with with the bengals in particular the bengals are Oh and seven they have not looked good all season long the rams just needed a win against Atlanta and got it to San Francisco and knock off him beaten so it's a huge game not only is it a huge game for the forty niners which they use game for Kyle Allen who is undefeated is the quarterback of Carolina just to get a favor much didn't make you but what was your favorite one fish sticks what did they have I'm probably Joe for the week and then came last night on overnight flights so really their fresh a fresh off the plane to leave much time here they're not going to have much time here too the money but in junior high I was selling now I say this I'll tell you after you know we'll have that conversation afterwards we're going to be a little bit of rain going on because that's just something that happens in London this time of year when teams go over here how you think he will make that adjustment to that type of climate and weather another kind of weak integrated with his defense so they definitely they're not overlooking the bengals and I say really want to build off what they started last week we look at Jared Goff and you look at the Oh yeah I was for anti people today's national greasy foods earlier but it brings us to a discussion we had earlier situation that he came off of last week against the Falcons play pretty good pretty silent and sound indoors no sort of weather issues at all I'm assuming it's you think it's the weekend dad brought home some pizza or if you're poor like Kisha and you got the little oven pizza French road is there any trap factor to this Lindsey I mean we saw what happened with Tampa a few weeks ago where they open three no you're kind of looking forward to what's coming up next after that with Seattle see it does raise that will kind of get into the game or affect the game it's really wet out here today there was handling the ball so a little bit of a precursor of what could come no there's really no barge for air I mean the NFC west racist so tight the forty niners are undefeated obviously seahawks have game up on him so there's really no sightseeing whatnot told them all to go enjoy dinner tonight do a few things they wanna do like a normal Friday evening but really nothing too extravagant for sightseeing and trying to be due to know or to to have an opportunity to chance to stay on course to get into the playoffs key you know the old cliche one day hawks and they get caught is there something that could be similar with this or the bengals just not good enough to pull that off any of that I think the bagels are going to I hope you get some later today or tomorrow late at the sporting at nine am off the red eye and a little bit of a worldwide Kinda Day how are they handling the situation you guys I mean here's the thing is The rams down kind of the key to success two seasons ago was staying on the East Coast after Blaine East Coast game so I stayed in Atlanta anything that jared has weather wise obviously the Bengal they're going to have to deal with that too Lindsey theory joining us from London the Rams and the bengals coming up Sunday morning at ten o'clock West Coast time appeared historically obviously a lot better in warm weather in the in the dry weather's any is in the rain so that's kind of one of those things that's to be determined but we're there at right now Lissa sense around the team what Travis was similarly just asking you sit around the team in terms of what it is that they need look see feel the atmosphere and what kind of is in their mind and what they're thinking what they're sorry Alex their time because I'm here to play football game and for the guys who haven't been an easy adjustment just because the older guys all Spencer it even time I asked question all week and that's what the answer is one game at a time so you know I hate even repeated authors just hasn't been consistent enough and they want to build off it was a great performance at the Falcons bill against the bengals going to buy feedback because it is a shea but for these guys that's really all they can focus on because they can't go back and change how those three losses came to be attempts they can kind of come back out and feeling good about where they left off a defensively I think they're obviously wanting to build off of what was a great performance against US Alcan's and Jalen Ramsey is probably would I probably would mess with sloppy Joe or the Burger Oh 'cause that that was kind of felt like that was right you were poor it I was like good for you aw that's not very nice so disrespectful it's not nice at all right you were rich wha wha what did you take Lynch yeah what was that what was in that spot it really was embarrassed to eat the lunch because back then you had to use the stay here yeah Stan but is there a sense that there's some sort of panic that is setting in with the forty niners being so far out in front of him no I don't think there's any panic setting in but the man Heart Spiderman or Gi Joe Bento box Sushi I those guys are kind of taking a closer look at the course Lindsey theory is in London Children Rams and the Bengals game right here at ten o'clock what they're doing it feels like that is a two playoff team division and all of a sudden you're not just trying to catch San Francisco or Seattle but you have to catch maybe both of them to get Z. be careful be safe and we'll see when you get back head on the swivel all right thanks guys the whiz key yes ago but any of that offense that this is the football team that really really struggling and now you come over to London that adds a whole other elements I'm to a winless team plus the rams Mike and I didn't know that the worst thing until I started hanging out with you really didn't know it existed but you wizard of Oz the one with the green witch and worthy I can do is make sure that they went and that's all they really control going forward we'll you know they could tell you one game at a time but you're smart enough to in a in a former athlete smart enough to Konin archive forty show yeah well I just wanted to know what you know being around him being a former athlete can is there a sense of you know they're gonNA give you the key the cliche it's a different ways no this is this does this called wizard of Oz came out four we is the wizard of Oz this is the wiz he's not scoreboard watching any more than he would any other week obviously they like to know what's going on to individuals they check it but again it comes back to the fact that they can't Dan or at least one of them that it doesn't feel like the West is going to get three do you get the sense that they're already scoreboard watching a little bit yeah you know Ashville mcvay that and he said there really ah in London this Sunday yeah really interesting you guys can see Wembley saved because I'm told there's a retractable roof over most of it so I'm curious to see how much of it largest for air and I I really don't get the sense that they're going to be attracted to anything or have any kind of led down simply because they cannot afford to if they want to go to the playoffs we you look at for air but this season you definitely get the sense that they know they're going to be up against it in an improved division what about that Lindsey never mind that since rivers anyway it doesn't matter forty one years ago for the Wiz I listened to the imaging coming in you know keyshawn at Staples Center it would be ridiculous to characterize it as a must win because that's stupid second game of the season but it does feel like there's a little taking care of business in somewhat of a message to them and let them know you're for real and you're ready to play are they going to do it the same way he because I I'm really curious to see how yeah we've heard anybody like where he's coming back pitcher to me yesterday to us yesterday I delete it I didn't like that one with the shirt Oh stop it your offense it's a good way to get into possession but it's also something that's brand new for Lebron where it starts somewhere other than with his own options something extra on top of it as opposed to just be the second game because they lost the opening game and then lost it to the Clippers and oh by the way Utah's really good Utah is going to be a team that's going Lakers try to play this season or not not this season tonight specifically are they gonNA dump it in Anthony Davis over and over and over and over again because it works it's a it's a good way to start the by going down the stretch and they have a couple of games coming up but they also have a very winnable game so again it's it's not like last season they went into anything thinking oh there's better into that he's kind of in the pickle and that sense it'll be interesting to see how we approach is easy he he basically at the end of the day he's put himself in a bad position there is an increasing diversity a heightened awareness if you will you know that they really can't fault or anywhere that they are going to have to play their best football coming in it was the same on this first travis as a kid and then when I saw wizard of Oz later that they redid the wizard of Oz was mid thirties automobiles part he couldn't care less than I can't for him but he's put himself in a bad position because everybody saw gaming clippers and they felt like he didn't put his clippers now this is a team that they can see in the playoffs as well they could see Utah the playoffs just like they could see the clippers and are you know in in so you WanNa make sure that you is with this team has coming off of the bench with this team has coming off the bench the star that's missing over here Paul George this star that's missing over here Kyle Kuzma it just felt like all Dak he got hit by a car and how to jump out of the street once you get hit by a car that's not very braun knows that he needs to go to another guy if he doesn't then it's all he was he wasn't ready to go he needed to make sure that he went to Anthony Davis because he knew that he couldn't get the go to the playoffs. Yeah you certainly don't want to start off owing to just because you just don't want that you know what they're settling in and you WANNA see Lebron and the rest of the guys play better than they did against they can go and beat guys like Leonard Going beat guys like the clippers as weird as it sounds it I I I know you don't buy this key but I feel it in my bones that it then he goes out there and he plays against them I ain't people going to say his is Utah he played against him he put his foot to the pedal because it's Utah there's no couloir so we can't win no matter what he does can't win the only way can win is if they win and if they win and if they win and if they win it specifically if and if he does you were saying that earlier he's kind of damned if he does damned if he doesn't if he does go to a d. then it's GonNa be like see look even Jose sweet tea it made me think L Z doing a right not since he's sent those questionable pictures heard from that and like I just I well hurry back you'll see we'll see he'll be back on Monday Lakers game two of the season tonight Utah Jazz coming in Lakers home opener panic because you know we're not even at the halfway point quite yet but just the reality of the situation that they're in third place in their own division you look at a team like Minnesota you look at Green Bay I think it did you see him going up blocking shots and grabbing talked about a play here and there I'm talking about games can take over games he obviously he goes all of the momentum all the power of the dynamic of WHO's actually the better team the better organization in charge it felt different man and I've never felt that aw you sit there and be like it feels different because that championship caliber dachshund Jerry West is in the background he's one so you got a bunch of winners on you would've added I don't know Klay Thompson to the clippers instead of collide the fact that you got a guy who won big and WanNa Championship who added another piece does he take over games he took over game last year at times he could take over games they just fell apart last year when you when you look at it though against Utah before with those too even when the Lakers were lousy and even with the clippers were good lob cities cranked up Lakers are bad why nobody alive CDs done one anything all in the The boots the scarecrow part they are ripping so this is Richard Pryor Michael Jackson Diana Ross that whole crew Richard Pryor isn't it yeah is a ten man foot on the pedal the way that Lebron has done in the past for whatever it was ny factored depend is the pedal still go to the floor I think it does get that momentum going in the w column and that's what they need to get rid of the the narrative that Lebron is something less ancient the seahawks or the niners are going to play they can do is focus on how they're going to play but I would imagine that every Sunday Monday or Thursday night whatever games playing on that's what this feels different he's won she would've won twice he wants wants what the Spurs wanted three I wanNa say is it twenty three times James I think the Lebron is still a top five Guy Anthony Davis is he's not top five he's not outside the top seven or eight but the clippers were just noticeably take a kid I saw this when I was colorful and scary member the flying defying motorcycle is they were want to in San Antonio right yeah he's won three times and now he did it basically by Toronto now he comes to the clippers so yeah it's going to feel different do you blame me 'cause you all defense two time. NBA Champion three time all star two time finals MVP Michael wasn't meet Saudi don't be the second guy tonight because he's going to be the number one guy more often than not I really truly believe that because Lebron is set it Lebron the way that they played against the clippers on opening night and Michael Myself Hawaii sent to San Antonio I'll say to go we're listening Michael you're right no no Lisa again though the the great and powerful Oz yes listen to you know I it was a guy that looked like better food my buddy just takes me to my man to bed noticeably better for me me he did let you know you don't know nothing key he's he's won two not three like add no it's not that I it was stark it was the comparison between the two teams and I'll say it again I think the Lakers are really good I think the Lakers are GonNa win a bunch of game I said to Travis corrected me and say it was wrong saying did I said three in the Houston over there which are nappy hair to my time for everything I guess they sometimes go out there put it on the Utah jazz tonight we're in the game a brand is twenty five or whatever it is having Anthony Davis B stay on the team now we're in the past couple of never had a bunch of winners and we saw it on the court at the same time and you saw it on a plane sometimes you look at these things and you feel Dan a champion what now I know I looked it up I still didn't believe it I went and looked Avatar on fat check Michael Thompson Yeah check it Kariba Travis what are you going to do he's my favorite but it's one of those situations where I think the Lakers will be okay tonight and they get the W. and they started changed changed on Tuesday night I'm telling you the juxtaposition juxtaposition between those two teams but what this team has and what that team has well he's hit line 'cause we got here that's where it's going to get up in the nineties and West Covina today Dr you've been lately not seats we dinner show the call a timeout Mickey I is but he thompson blame me which is to Michael I shouldn't have doubted Michael you doubt a little bit indicated that that's how they're going to go about doing that Anthony Davis is going to be the focal point of what they do but just for everybody say go out there and do it to Utah Tonight and then they have late on Sunday right you'd Charlotte on Sunday beat them up and then just in everybody's talking nothing charlie nothing win that going away Charlotte a bit of buzz created a little bit of something like hey we're going to do it differently we're not just going to follow the math we're gonNA lay down some months whether or not a translates into wins who the hell knows I'm going to rookie season had a few games a second season its third season now you're at the pinnacle point now where you gotta take the next step they're trying to get guys in free agency or in trades to help him they took a look at receivers that are taking a look at the secondary to try to make some sort of push he needs help at the wide receiver spot Swat enough to get back on track I ki- let's start with our Los Angeles Rams they are on the other side of the Pond Wembley Stadium against the Cincinnati the first time around but when you think about Philadelphia think about Carson Wentz now that conversation comes like it was three weeks ago did you pay him too much money too early the same golf course conversation that prescot golf course wins what's the situation now look Carson Wentz been up and down in his career he had obviously last time they were relevant right was when it was Alonzo and Larry Johnson the winners the last time you knew anything about the Charlotte Hornets that wasn't lit on key they're in a great spot to go to the playoffs the eagles are three and four and they're looking at the cow wasn't division and they got to continue to try to win games obviously Buffalo Eddie bengals that is correct the rams take on the Owen seven bundles Ramsey foreign three they go all the way to Cincinnati to try to get this w coming off a w last week against the Atlanta Falcons there's no Aj Green the lineup so you can you can somewhat play around with Jalen Ramsey and get him acclimated to the defense scheme that you want to run not just man to man all the time Jerry Johnson or Alonzo more I'll give you some hints art one of them you do know you guys you know a former Celtic was a backup now we'll be in a starting role oh they paid mar not Marcus smart get the problems that the Cincinnati bengals present what are they nothing us know exactly what you have to do in order to win a football game you have to play silent sakes feel like that they can really push the New England patriots in the division they have to stay pat they get the New England patriots again only this time it's in New England they played them tough in buffalo got sakes what more do you need to know there's been a long time yet Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all time and Michael Jordan and kicks your case this is he is he picking the players did he have somebody else in place doing that because you would think by now would have thrown that guy wasn't one or two times you screw it up and mess it up is there a scenario that you can devise the rams lose this game Sean mcvay Mr Flight I mean you know and even so wait for them to get live right now in Chicago at three three to charge just won a salvage the season and having a least a winning season eight nine seven something along those Sinaga Larkin run but he can't catch yeah that's the Rav seems to be a problem very quickly yes or no the Philadelphia Eagles make the playoffs no you look at what they've been able to do jared Goff on the season's almost close to two thousand yards todd Gurley not so great they gotta get him going to get him up to speed get him to doing some things when you the chargers are on the road there in Chicago to take on the bears the charges were supposed to be good key they're looking to and six right in the face I think in this situation sitting at two and offers or is it something else I think it's a little bit of both I think the Melvin Garden hold out certainly hurt them whether they want to admit it or not I think Philip rivers is getting a little longer in the tooth really good coach the Denver Broncos on the other hand vic Fangio's waited like sixty years to become a hair coach and he certainly showing you why I mean Nicholas Tony was tied away if Nick Pa- tomb is the second best player on your team travel problems can get that going is because they probably won't make the playoffs is going to probably come now to the raiders in Kansas City within the division and when you look at it same thing Chicago bears they're probably not gonna make the playoffs because it'll come down to green bay in Minnesota but in terms of this football game coach Leeann has to get these guys going I'm tired of watching him come up to the podium who's a good friend of mine every around throwing for four hundred yards but what he's doing is he's taken advantage of the defense given him short field he's taking advantage of Christian McCaffrey being in the backfield bad executive but I mean it just doesn't it just doesn't seem like well he's a bad executive not is he is he not going after the right players clearly picked out a morrison the matchup of unbeatens key the six and Oh San Francisco Forty niners against Allan Forno unbeaten against unbeaten well I'm not GonNa let you Holtz they are on their home I should say they're taking on the bankers Jacoby percent is kind of quietly worked his way into an MVP converse when you look at a guy who's passer rating chase down a Lamborghini is that next-gen status on like that without to Sean Jackson they are the slowest receiving Corinthian Day in to step down from that position and do something else within the organization because they just can't get it right I just can't seem to get it right. They can't get the quarterback position right for single week having to address whatever those problems already cost him the game and he's a better coach than what the players are showing for him is it injuries across the board for the charts there's a little bit over one hundred you've got to think that he's doing everything he's capable of doing. As far as quarterback spot go they built the team for Andrew Luck but L. he gets the opportunity to drive the car because Andrew Luck is no longer they re to the offensive line they went out and got Devin funchess from Carolina that's where Cam struggled Gojira is really I don't think they'll lose football game I don't think it'll be close all right moving on the eagles and the bills the bills are five and and he's basically being a manager and not screwing it up in that camp you in that will keep you job but here's what I would say for those that don't keenum kirk cousins and cow Allen Keep it simple you keep it simple because you afraid they're going to screw it up in that in a results in a winning can that's the truth hi you sometimes try and do too much with that particular player because you believe he can do it he's superman and so it gets in the way a lot of times when you have a guy like Casey the giants two wins the jets one win that is a garbage schedule yeah it is but due to Kane of Allah certainly is doing a terrific job in helping the Carolina Panthers football game he's not lighting it up he's not sitting rating okay almost throw for two thousand yards eleven touchdowns and only four interceptions is that it's not a great ratio what eleven we went out and got Devin funchess to help and guess what Jacoby percent is the one tight Ty healed the running game the offense align the defense and frank right is a really really Russian for you percentage give me a percentage number chances they trade cam this off season debut in the panthers I would probably say sixty forty they keep him or trade him the year the other one go we Tony Parker retired I thought no Nicholas but when you start dropping wins two losses how can I support you in jumped on the table for you all right see the Patriots are at home they're taking well because they're getting ready to play Carolina Carolina pop them now what we say they're six and one is still pretty good popped again by the next thing so I'm doing this I think they need some help at the receiver position they need some help tidy and they got a short this back in the secondary and they've had some misfortunes along the way jacoby percent and the around us too long the steelers to wins the dolphins zero wins the jets one win the bills are a good team the Redskins won this law become here's one and done I think I think at this point probably so I think John Elway it feels like to me John elway decide on the Cleveland Browns a Patriots Schedule Seasons joke well not really yeah with the Cleveland Browns you thought was going to walk in this season the people did people like Ross their schedule real quick here who new England has played that was not a good sense. Here's who do as well no like Roger bottle out about football in general about the quarterback position when you have a player like a Cam Newton as an offer it's a coordinated offense so you know we don't know what's going to happen with Mahomes I guess we'll learn here in the next twenty four hours or so whether or not he will actually play on Sunday but Kansas City sitting at five and Annapolis starting to twenty three which is a really good football team in their division knows them now only go outside the division and get ready to play the raiders the raiders their team that struggled against right and even if Patrick mahomes played in the game he will not feel good he's GonNa be on some sort of pain medications planning a game some things are going to be foggy tyree it's they do what they're supposed to take care of business and it doesn't really matter I keep hearing all these people talking about Tom Brady's not doing Tom Brady's not doing that Tom Brady has one hundred percent Jackson has been in and out of the lineup. alshon Jeffery I mean this is tied in manner man I mean it's like a it's like my previous in Houston Texans I can't figure out either one of these teams keep both of them the second I start to think you know what they're pretty good team they lose well I think the Texas are better football team in a raider if I did I can tell us with this is Katy Perry Kelly Clarkson Katy Perry from High School in Santa Barbara California thirty five years old Raj very similar in terms of getting out of pocket on the move being able to do some things when you look at a guy like the Andre Hopkins the Raiders Secondary is struggling they're gonNA probably get the Eh sees big fan I like this version to get back into it and look at it because I don't really right Roz it stays yeah because you've got to have to pay him a lot of money he's GonNa be a forty million dollar quarterback if you're willing to take that risk I don't know what you're talking about he's lightened up like he was before but he's still really really good he's he's doing he's Tom Brady absolutely all right the raiders they are on the road oughta him along with the Shawn Watson they're gonNA run the ball the raiders or with Jacobs they're gonNa try to slowly temple now so that they don't have guys like watts pulling their ears back pending take on Green Bay packers Green Bay going from Lambeau in Kansas City it'll be jack crowd a big time atmosphere but that guy twelve is on the other side with no patch holes potentially on the other now that they've gotten by the Galaxy Elliott wins the MLS Cup take it or shaken tank there at home the rest of the way the raiders have a lot of issues on the back end of football on their football team in the dignity side of the ball. I think Bill O'Brien when you look at him and what he's capable of doing they lose last week too back trying to go get car trying to short off into line if they're capable of doing that the naked stay in his football game Houston these the game because they need the division in order to get into the playoffs supposed to get back number one target and Adams Davante Adams if that happens they'll watch our Kansas City if there was ever a pig of a game it's the dolphins the Green Bay packers last week Kinda got run Outta lamble which we everyone expected Aaron Rodgers to do what he did they're facing watson now a different type of player than Air Ford that's not that good it's not everyone throws for all okay a lot of housing yards based on this halfway through the season he's really good still having me Kelly Clarkson Katy Perry Taylor swift they all know Taylor swift is different she's tall and skinny and this as an entrepreneur what Katy Perry all right we'll start with L. AFC they beat the galaxy last night key the danced to the Western Conference final yes you're measuring it up against all the success that they had versus the success that they can have right now which is keeping things together until if when clay comes back he's a starter along Wilshire McCoy running back spot defensively for Kansas City they're going to be up against they're struggling defense but Aaron Rodgers probably try and go if they make it to the final men and we'll go and we'll have a good time we're we're not standing the whole damn guys finally got through Philly when you finally got through them championship in what is like La supports them there behind him one hundred percent I think it Rajoub out there last night I saw some of the videos it looked like a great atmosphere you've got to win this division all right the packers and the chiefs in Kansas City this was probably the game of the week right up until Patrick Mahomes kneecap decided to dislocate in the steelers on Monday night hard pass yeah oh I've never seen a pretty big fan I couldn't tell you they've gotten past the galaxy they know what it is to get a championship they will find out what it is to get a championship they don't not to work correct myself they will find out how to get it it that's coming up a little bit later by the forty niners you've been kind of lukewarm on them for the first time they're seven and seven you think I'm a damn fool where you're not buying on sex and this happy Perry she's thirty five years young birthday is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover Newport beach off the seventy-three toward the Sea Visit Land Rover Newport Beach Dot Com Land Rover above and beyond what she American idol or something no I don't think so no I think she was just she might have been a judge on American idol but I don't think she was a contestant a four games left in the year but we knew we may some mistakes that we correct going to correct and we go all right let's go to the NBA The clippers beat the warriors last night ears and be like it's going to be a long year of course it is you don't have the same player no no not not comparing it to their championship run because that was you know that does teams don't go to the finals it is going to do he's not going to necessarily get them over the top but he adds something on the perimeter edge is I believe that they probably haven't had since demarcus ware which is a Guy Francisco in the divisional you go yeah because we knew what we did wrong against Philly the first time we lost him in the regular season we lost to you can't measure against success that they had I'm talking I'm even talking about Steve Kerr Yeah you can't you can't look at the last several years go relentlessly and get to the quarterback he plays with some sort of mean streak to him this is what the cowboys knee they needed a sort of nasty long season ticket or shake it shake it jay talking get I'm GonNa shake this because what do you what are you measuring take I'm taking taking taking different format in terms of what Michael then he stays is there a market for him I mean annoys who hadn't that's fast we'll we'll circle back to that idea that's for sure maybe a take it or she five years in a row at just doesn't happen they were able to do it they went three championships in the process understand by the they're going to be a they're having a season where they're going to be in a dogfight for the play offs and take their lumps that's fine they're going get hit and beat up a little bit that's fine and they'll be right back the next year and the year after I'm sure all right back to the NFL the Patriots trade aim he was getting less and less reps all right next one in the NFL Cam Newton will be on a team other than the Carolina Panthers season ticket or

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"Meantime show featuring lenny is presented by ziprecruiter ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire bomb bomb bomb bomb welcome to the show featuring lenny me only nfl podcast for training camp is one of us learn it and say oh we're rolling through are division previews we have crossed the midpoint of the off season of my off season anyways anna so far neither lenny nor i have gotten hurt were were in good shape and we have a good a really good a great guest today the first of all the only guest who's ever showed up with a gift for lenny it's a i'm gonna pick it whole it's a stuffed alligator it looks like or the dragon no it's definitely now oh my god lady's gonna destroy this immediately a guest today is cynthia freeland cynthia thank you so much for this gift you know it's actually from utah the bulldog oh she has a professional crush on lenny so she brought up to our football related you know maybe a seahawks toy or something like that colors actually the seahawks colors but you saw the bulldog like listen it's not about you not about me it's about what lenny lenny would like from utah dog so really it's from her fashionable crush your professional career that's amazing this is len he's gonna destroy this in about ten sec as as he should a squeaking although there's like ten different ones he could decide there's actually a sticker that advertise that fact but their defense attorneys in that yes he so it'll actually lasts longer the most toys 'cause he's all about getting to the get into the squeaks as we are here on this podcast cynthia you're by far the smartest person i've ever had on fox has ever offered to close you're title 'em i forgot to write it down so let's see it's predictive analytics expert at nfl network let's be totally honest when i made the transition from e s p n que nfl network it was really hard to say the word predictive analytics analyst you really think about it analytics 'cause yeah exactly so in order to make things really and make sure nobody got that like awkward they end the base yeah we just what i got her is okay i got a promotion because of that shut up justify is fucking yeah so what that means in non nerd terms can you explain ultimately it's it's taking situational look at the ball using a lot of advanced concept but really marrying what you're seeing on the field and the strategies at the coaches are trying to employ where's the kind of statistics andy outcomes in as least biased way of possible possible that's how you know i have a map person 'cause i don't think that's good english at all but whatever he's biased way pilot is not that simple but i will say the predictive worried i think is what jumps out at me because you know we love analytics on this show but you know we typically used him to look back at seasons seasons and try to figure out what works what didn't what teams were stronger weekend will get into some of that as we go through this preview but you're also looking forward and trying to anticipate what teams will be good at and which players will thrive in the coming season think of it like the stock market a little bit and you used the historical basis and you look for things that are similar from the passer dapo ganger from the past that help you say oh this is a lot like the kind of thing so you find things that match because not all defenses are the same and not i'll defenses that were ranked twenty eighth and x are the same year year but there are overall trends and when you have teams that have configuration similar to another team from the past you could see how they fared and that gives you a better kind of lens and wait focus what you could be seeing and if you right so for example if this year's eagles defensive reminds you of you know the cs even thirteen we might see this from them giving the schedule and everything like that and then you factor in like coach like you talk about i heard other previews and you're talking about daryl bevill going to the lions and it's gonna look a little different but he will still bring his daryl bevill like qualities you alliance yes the bubble you know the devil you know well first of all immensely flattered that you not only the smartest person anti only person who brought a gift he might be the only person other than mike golic junior who actually listen to my podcast dominate does to how's that they dominate frazier because i know he was like when you were asking like who would you be in a desert island whether whatever i was like well i wouldn't be in consideration for this when come on you gotta come your way right yeah you would instantly rocket up the list i think for most people we'd on well listen okay so we said we cross the midpoint and it's from listening to these stephen period i know i i think one of the fun things kind of taking stock of not only the rosters ended up charge and how they've changed and yeah yeah but also kind of looking at these divisions thinking about okay is this oh a two team race a three team race we did the ac see south last week and we concluded it was wide open this division i think i have a pretty strong idea of who i believe is the best team i think they're probably two teams with playoff potential this just might might take unless haskins really surprises and comes out early and we'll talk about that when we get to washington but to me there's one team that's not only really above i guess the fold of this division but i actually i as i've gone to divisions things has a like a really really strong chance of taking the whole thing and i am of course talking about the new york football giants getting a philadelphia a at unless i wanna start with that team but first before we kind of get into the nitty gritty i wanna ask you like like do you agree with my overarching ten thousand foot the eagles are incredible take i do actually agree with that would be the two things and i looked at this site that was the last time the new things and i looked out this division dallas this is sneaky good i don't think they're i i'm not as like i don't think the disparity between philadelphia and dallas in a vacuum is that different but the situation for both of them is completely different so dallas has a heart rescheduled host the rams in new orleans doozer their unique opponents at philadelphia doesn't have to match and really philadelphia i mean they had seattle in new england in chicago at home when they only really have to go to green bay minnesota and then they're non their unique it opponent is lanta and that's in atlanta but it's still not is like i'd rather face it where it lana then have to go to new orleans new orleans so you know that that to me the situation is a big deal i definitely agree and i like dallas and they are the other team i would referring to that i think has playoff potential oh they they have a few more holes to me and i will get to them but this eagles roster man like as i was going through it i was struck by how deep they are in the way in which which they're deep which is to me cynthia like the eagles teams in recent years that have been so good has been excellent obviously wentz had the year this year where he was playing at mvp level before he got hurt but the reason why nick foles was able to thrive in his absence obviously he had some games in which he like you know metamorphosis into this like super band quarterback in but last year as well was the two lines which i believe are the strength of the team andy oh look really really good and really deep so let's start on the offense 'em and let's start off it's of line which i just have a couple of question marks let's start with i guess what you might call the biggest question mark which is carson wentz yet big expensive question like how did you feel about the contract if he's i think the only first round pick off the top of my head to get that early extension see i think it's smart of them jan extend him early yes it's a high price tag for someone that's coming off injuries and i say that multiple injuries anti the runner we saw that all the way dating back to college you rush for over thousand yards in college so we know that his tendencies are having his mobility so ultimately for me it is a big expensive contract but it's really smart to go first because it's not like the quarterback markets could be like you know what this guy's playing mvp mvp for but yeah we were gonna get him at a discount like yeah that's just not how the world war is showing up exactly dak is looking at that and dak who hadn't had injuries but in my estimation kind of anyway i've evaluated dak is not as good of a quarterback as carson wentz i we could do that the bomb threat not really ultimately he's looking at me like great i'm about to you that could be my floor so i think it was a really smart signing the only thing that i have in that position group though what is it nate sud feld clear orson not kessler so i i like a sneaky you know you're back of quarterback is an underrated position for me and i think that's the only spot where i'm like you're like yeah that's risky but but it totally agree yeah i think that's why a lot of people thought maybe they'll try to keep you know just because of the injury history in the in the lack of years they like suffield and we have seen in a little bit but like we don't really know i mean yeah i i that's lacking someone that's great like you know there's a lot of people like like i think the i i remember last year hearing i'm adam gays say he liked that david fails right oh yeah no like it's like okay well you're feeling like leading source and 'em sounds like his dad got him a job and internship as such fun so i don't i one hundred percent where you just so interesting because i think i heart agree with you on the deck thing will get a deck 'em and i was kinda thinking about it he's performance last year we it's almost lost a little bit like we hadn't eaten you didn't get a lot of talk coming off of injury and then you're under with a stress fracture sure in the back but he good he was probably like somewhere in that ten fifteen range honestly end if that's you're floor that's great that's still good you know 'em i guess i remember trying to diagnose kind of like like what's why is this team better was false and it was weird syndicate those like almost like they were like playing better with nick foles i think the reality was nick foles always had a better connection with alshon jeffery an end that's still never really solidified 'em but also falls kind of would do what they often told him to you and here's a little bit more aggressive whereas when i was a little bit more risk averse aside from how he put his body in pain and you know lodges himself had but he kinda got better that but he also would kind of guilty of doing too much at times and taking too many sacks and he he's obviously more talented than falls but i think you could see the ways in which the the reason why he wasn't that ten fifteen range instead of the top ten range which i think he's totally capable of also think it's very hard to repeat told our initial success in a second season when people have so much going on you and they kind of know you're tendencies now will see him be able to dig deep and kind of listen to you doug peterson toodle edge in a different way and grow from that but i also think like we have to look for the clues that we don't have the answers to as outsiders and getting rid of golden tate in the middle of the season like be bitter some things where we're like well maybe there's things that we don't know yeah i like there are things like that that are these and i mean we saw some weirdness prior with jay jai like something's weird they're like he'd write off working i don't know what i'm not saying his like work effort but it stopped working the judge i trick stop working so ultimately we don't know some of the things that we don't know and those could have an outside impact on him as well i agree yeah like i look at this wide receiver group and you know i mentioned earlier him and jeffrey you could say well let's go like why is nick foles so much better was out sean or you could just say hey maybe like often jeffrey this contesting cash machine and maybe carson wentz is throwing him up and i think it's kind of a simple is that they did i did sean jackson which is very exciting 'em jj arsia whiteside oh i love him rate yes yes so contested catches speaking of kentucky i shouldn't be a touchdown machine at jackson like i don't think is the best de throw deep ball thrower in the nfl but his presence on the field we know that effect that that could happen the rest of the skill players and you saw in tampa bay they affect the sean jackson has look at i mean we didn't talk enough about i think at least i didn't notice us talking enough about mike evans maybe it's just the nfl network cnn surely talk but but ultimately that threat of the sean jackson yeah taking the top off the ball when ever he's on the field that's a big deal so that will help out sean jeffrey as well because you could be a contested catch machine but at some point like wouldn't it be nicer to not have to catch the contested all the time right yeah right so ultimately getting open in spreading the field out and by the way zach ertz dallas goddard is a great option to so zach ertz could be decor and more often i i think that this is a this is an offense it's that like i said my biggest worry in this one is carson wentz is hell because i don't know about well yeah no i agree that is the biggest question mark he yes he mentioned a dallas they do they used to tight ends more the most teams in the nfl and 'em the running back corps the group looks a little bit different this looks a lot different is actually a you know howard and a the kid they drafted mile sanders sequence barco that's fine you know whatever 'em i think if i had one more question on the offense it is the age of the line you know they're a very very good offensive line but they are getting up in the years they drafted under dealer to be jason peters successor so who knows it and we actually don't brandon brooks coming off an injury as well so it's it's incredibly strong group 'em but again we're talking about holes if you were like talking about hypotheticals like you're a good very good team if that's what you're talking about instead of actual whole right correct we did we did see lane johnson have some injuries and the vice high whose last name is like almost by by however yeah okay so we did exactly we thought we saw the backup situation there and it did work it took a little bit of getting used to so i think you're right with age as being a question but we saw that last season with the rams to and it really did yeah come into play through until the end of the season so i'm not saying that that's like a great way to be but at least like you know you give yourself a chance when it's when it's a really strong start in i like obviously if you've read anything in mind i'm like big old line person and for me jason kelsey was by far and away so i tried to like create a like you can't do wins above replacement 'cause they have replacements but you don't know who they're like they don't play enough for them to have any statistical data do the actual replacement so i changed the model and i was like well how connected to earning first downs touchdowns art is each individual player and how connected and then it by group and then by side of the ball and then how it all adds up to sixteen games or whatever their win total was depending on how you wanna look at it and no center had a bigger impact on their team's loss minus or however you wanna i haven't thought of a good name for yet so if anyone here has a great one then please do it but no center had a bigger impact and jason kelsey and that kind of an underrated like factor that other other teams didn't have the benefit of so even with we don't know brandon brooks but okay like he's coming back whatever we don't know exactly kind of what's going on in general but that was a big contributor i wanna talk more about you're off at metro atlanta dallas yet another team with a very very good center who's coming back 'em and i also want are listeners just submit names cynthia these offensive line which is about the price well this is every position you hold any did ever every position position groups some people it's hard to like do them without their counterpart because you're off ball information matters ray you're like the if you have the sean jackson and you're my kevin there's you know they'd be these on different coverages that had an impact you so it's it's kind of all that plus minus but i try and steal from the mb 'cause i like like death lineup and i wanna i wanna figure out space like the mb adas with player efficiency stuff i know people have various thoughts on that but yeah winning the tracking data then tracking data and then i like right all this dirty computer vision and i sit there and trust circles around like fat men's bums like four hours and hours on end and space so try to use computer vision to to like measure things with actual trying to get the v plane so if you're really good koetter out there like you know there's acts in the why and you get good gps data but like i need that z planes make it three deeply so even have that women do really smokes okay oh i'm a lot more questions about that yeah but i wanna wrap up the eagles 'em by again i look at this defense now the front seven is insane fricken insane i mean they are they're they're counting a little bit on guys to return to form you know they're not counting but they're not counting on guys reform guys return the form they will have the deepest front seven in the nfl right because you got burned out coming back from injury obviously fletcher cox they paid league jackson got about a pretty reasonable price did have a down year last year relative to past performance and then you've got like brandon graham who they pay took some people by surprise 'cause he also had a down year after being one of the better defensive lineman any nfl there before they brought back vinny curry another guy who had a down year but but all told that's ridiculous i know they lost michael bennett who takes it takes a lot of pass rush production with him but it's even one of those guys is back to being who he was it's it reminds me of that super bowl team where they were just rotating guys in and out and had so much death in line will back that up but the fact that they're really good a really good way to have a good friend just also have these depth at you're in you're defensive backfield so you're getting back what ronald darby jaylen mills in rodney mcleod which you know obviously all three of those defensive backs will add to like pressure sure and you know they they work together there's no like one formula for everything so they do work together and getting all of these people back like creates so much more for the whole day from the the pizza so you're right if any individual one of those happened hit like gangbusters gangbusters like you think or also if 'cause really we saw the secondary with rob a huge problem they were like i can't even remember some of the me neither were bringing do duff street are like hey hey what a tryout 'em yeah 'cause they were so banged up there were the name i wrote down like a curve on the block was he's still in the mix but anyways city planning alliance that let's shut up today f k with a with their overall but i love the way i got i have some questions for you about their fantastic yeah it's really gonna simulates the listeners but you know they're they're just they got a bunch of dudes comebacks in jones you will see you know but there's so much upside avante max was like really really good at times last year he could be starting slot corner 'em there's just a lot of deaths i had these contracts are so good like show halley man like timmy jernigan being all these guys they paid like nothing they got zac brown who's really good i was just gonna bring them and not they should they frame minnesota nothing look at these contracts it's ridiculous 'em so look i i don't know i feel good let's so let's just enumerate any concerns we have i guess it's if all these guys suck duck or don't none of them return to form wentz gets hurt someone online gets her i mean that's pretty much it to me i'm i'm right there with you i think double digits is a nice place for them to land at least ray like i'm never person's like thirteen and three right at the you can't out never never gonna be there but i think double digits is a really comfortable totally base for them to be in 'em all right before we get to the next team i wanna say quick second tell you guys about dv foundation auction that we do here tsp in 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triplet i want i wanna win that could weird 'em okay so then i i wanna talk about washington nfl like there's really no other place to start other the quarterback in the only team a well you will have on your but this is i'm not sure what they'll do i know what you're gonna do an i want to ask you first what you think they should so those about to around at the draft this year when they were watching her whatever they i they saw that i did like the pick haskins a life the value i like him he is not experienced okay he's very very correct me is like her eyebrows are waggling 'cause i think this matter that something that probably matters a lot to i'm guessing based on the way you look at things 'em however they honestly it's not like the giants have you know like a starter is a reason why that a desert but what they did the washington has case keenum who is an average nfl koro i below average i'd say not terrible maybe i think he's a great backup he's a great back like an exceptional backup yes last year with over the course of his career he's just puts up very he had that one magical year in minneapolis minnesota i think we kind of now realizes the product of circumstances and you know pixie dust 'em and they've got mccoy who i just you know that's a no so i wanna ask you that's a new one yeah i'm just not even i have you know it's five a career passer rating a semi either go so i wanna ask you based on like your noses you've done the teams and like where he quarterbacks and there's no i don't think there's ever a clear answer on this because every time it shakes out differently what would you do if you were washington in terms of how you approach the quarterback position this year i'm gonna give them a lot of credit because i think they were at least as self aware as you could be in a situation i love the pick i the when when i look at quarterback with not a lot experience a one year starting his heirs yes he threw fifty touchdown passes which is amazing but you have to look at it under kind of what were the circumstances and the cool thing about dwayne haskins first of all is that he got better as the season progressed you also got better in the fourth quarter of games so so some of those things start to speak to you you're learning curve will you relate to the nfl owners who is that okay so i did getting better says he's a progressive saying i that seems clear but the idea of getting better in the fourth quarter i've never really thought about that as being predictive are telling anyway so the way that kind of the the very simplified way i think about this in my mind is in the beginning you have scripted plays so you're coach goes in on when they installed the fence and they say okay here's the first fifteen plays were gonna runner twenty whatever and those are kind of like there's no if then scenario there's no decision tree there but as the game goes on it as you're seeing a defense and as you either have to win or you have to get something going to preserve a weed then you have to adjust to what you're seeing on the field and this is not it's not like he played at a college that we aren't familiar with his competition ohio state is a really high level every single year and hit their competition is too i mean you know one thing becomes right i mean they played michigan state who you know their top run defense in entered a boy and you thought these adjustments and yes you could pass on them a lot easier but you saw preserving leads in situations where you had to end that comes with a decision tree so that starts to speak to what the potential learning curve could be and then what washington did that was really smart i mean they put in kevin o'connell he was a quarterback they put in matt cabinet he became offensive assistant used up they offensive coordinator and then they have a timber tae i don't know if i'm saying last name right here's a quarterback who's also quarterback with the bucks when jay gruden was working in off into the bucks so you have a lot of people who at least in theory will be it's all about it's all about are we on the same page because if you played quarterback somewhere where you're familiar with whatever like doesn't mean that the system makes sense to you or what were trying to install because those offensive installations like learning that stuff like that's a cute that's kind of like everything right now could have all of the raw materials you want but you gotta stand behind their own line let's hope their own line could be healthy the the the question what the redskins always is health their most unhealthy team over the last two seasons by like seven or eight players so you're you're sitting here dealing with like up a lot of differences and if they can keep that unhealthy then they'll then the kind of the piece of they put in place all make a lot of sense and even if alex smith doesn't play which it doesn't look like he's going to be blamed happening he's still gonna help coach we right and we all know he's like the best student world correct so like i i'm a big alex many damn thing like white chocolate or something like that like like i'm scoot so but he'll still have his influence in the back room even if it's not on the field i think they did the best thing that they could and i think dwayne haskins fits their soto sort of more like the real question is can i figure out the puzzle piece that is dwayne haskins if the answer is yes then go taken yeah yeah yeah i i couple of quotes so many thoughts on this notion of like when you should start 'cause it's really complicated 'em haskins said in mini camp i just wanna make sure that when i do play i don't look bad love that true statement was never sat by a quarterback who said something that i thought was really interesting by the way this and i think this factors into whether he'll play whatever this is probably ever gruden like if he doesn't make this work i he's fully on the hot seat seven nine seven nine seven one four and twelve because you know off the top of your head i know a sad m you see the while plays and you're like jesus gruden said when he's on all of these there's nobody really it's pretty stance tell you the canyon quick enough is released he's got great taught strong powerful armstrong powerful body but sometimes when he's off he's abnormally off it's kind of weird string on is coming from a day but also actually that's pretty consistent with what i remember from watching haskins in college roused like hey he could meet defenses he could throw over the middle of the field he's got a great arm he's smart but every now and then he would make a grownup like all right so actually i think it ruins pretty much pretty much right about but i think this notion of like wanting to play when you're ready wanting to be good wanting to succeed is very important for rookie quarterback now is if there are two things that factor into that one is federal a show i buy that the first half their schedule is a lot harder than the second the weirdest schedule i've seen how they open with three of their four first games are in division three of their last three games are in division three the the first three weeks of their schedule they faced the teams in the top like there were only seventeen last season to allow less than a hundred rushing yards per game oh they open against three of them well stephen so it's not a great like it's not a great situation to like throw into the mix in you know obviously this is not there is some nuance here but just kind of something interesting last season when they couldn't establish around when they couldn't they do get there's guys back and they they did if bryce love they drafted i don't know if he'll play but you know they do have yeah here's instill but they were seven and three when they could rusher over a hundred yards now that is not like i went to look to make sure that you know and then right who were they playing in where they come in the fourth quarter with leads but you know ultimately it is kind of interesting seven in three when they were you know over a hundred rushing yards zero and six when they couldn't know it interesting for me that the zero and six more telling obviously out establishing like they're still have the same person creating that so the old line coach in the run game coordinator his name still callahan's on the same person so you want that like the passing game is gonna be different but the rent like you know it's they work together to create opportunities you have to have both working so you know that's that's just something but it's just not a great like welcome to the nfl right yeah i wouldn't be surprised if they sacrifice for k circle to they the early schedule god's there at any other thing that i think matters is a you know not one get the dude killed right at era wanting him to be in a good situation and i think washington dolphins is five tied 'em the skill players you mentioned the running backs locator piece in prove me wrong is much better than i expected last year but he's fine i don't i'm not expecting allowed him i'm not expecting out of him i expect a combination of dares guys thompson criticism like i think it's more smile gp ryan like yeah it's the combined group it doesn't need that you like sometimes i think we forget that like just because they're not take one barkley or or is equal elliott you know in this division especially like it doesn't mean that the net effect of the run game and like pass catching running backs and short yardage gains that effectively displays actual rushing yards like that that does have a big impact and i mean i guess they get jordan reed back maybe he would last three games maybe for the first three nothing i kind of like some of the wider they drafted well they turn the guardrail hesitate who's obviously that'll be nice familiarity tyrants kevin harming who i really liked i thought was totally agreed fell away too far in the draft 'em and then you know richardson porridge sin from c c l u he's also hurt a time so i don't really know how much you can expect out of him but if it's forget all that the most important thing for dwayne in just under conversation about the often is is trent williams planks he goes that's that's exactly i remember i said man this aligned i mean there is eric flowers left guard that backup chase related it's probably gonna be our they're gonna slide him out would register back shift yeah morgan moses could find it could be it could go either way pay the man because you don't have any we may not have any choice i got a rookie quarterback i would take naps behind trent richardson that is terrifying look i know he's the olden gets hurt whatever no i don't care what their left tackle these days play until they're like fifty five so that's a no brainer to me and then i guess like this defense does have a lot of holes i don't wanna like dwelling them for too long so they they clearly think believes that the the line is the strengths they've got all those bad boys who by the way 'em yes they were able to get and i'm talking about jonathan allen drawn pain and then they met i notice they were able to get to the quarterback back but the run defense really collapsed last year which is weird fred jim tom to align a so that's concerning i was expecting more from the return of mason foster so their middle linebacker guy thought he was gonna have more of an impact last season we didn't see it and by the way low key preston smith being gone is age big huge freaking still really good i do think ryan kerrigan is underrated overall is a pass rusher but i think stopping the run the diversity preston smith good yeah good on the packers but holy moly brown no no background yeah and it's why the way they have had catching running backs a lot in this division so what do you do a number like that that that's a little scared me 'cause you're asking you're asking a lot from people him not their strength that's a great point about the pass catching back in the division yeah i collins i mean what do you think the laugh it's fine i you know i think goes in overpay but you could they clearly need it in because holy smokes look at the secondary it is it is full so you know they saw josh norman on who's playing db opposite him i guess they're gonna be competition rigs romano's playing the ac i mean it's just it's wild so even if even if haskins they're gonna wanna manage tim i think you and i are agreement about like when he when he actually does start but even when he does i still don't think this is a a playoff team because of i i'm not really swayed by this i mean oh and by the way i forgot about dominique rodgers cromartie unretire oh my god that's just like i mean i feel like it's my we might be adding three injury last year it would just feel like there's like a lot of i know a lot of potential injury is happening on this truly truly although they do have dustin hopkins which i i love his name so i mean you're you're you're good tremendous 'em would you favor doesn't talk and say oh same man raymond yeah i mean is he is he is that that's his nickname the rain man i'm sure there and says he doesn't want in so that's sell pacino i always all right so listen i i wanna were gonna take questions is always the first i've got a new sponsor i wanna tell you about yeah really exciting is one that lenny loves summer's here you know that means it barbecue season and if you're like me you're friends family they incredible meet an lenny from butcher box from grass fed beef to free range organic chicken to wild caught sockeye salmon from bristol bay alaska you were just in alaska and yeah it was like ninety degrees isis questions about that later butcher box has over twenty different cuts of meat to choose from with customizable boxes in a variety of other options choose from they were closely with the best farms companies 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case but i think he's still i think he's still like tom brady in yet yeah it i dunno about the purple kerry healthy right like whenever his version of purple care will be well he had this thing called a bread i'd forgotten his call it the football made a bread who is like promoting that like like spread by the way who's who's backup don't like that one gino oh do it yeah that's gonna be a truly a competition fifty ages i can't wait 'em but are if everyone in advance when i live tweet every game 'em k brandon seven five seven listen i think people are you know what i think about this so i'm gonna ask you what this says i'm a broncos fat and i think john elway can't hack it as gm agree or disagree cynthia i disagree really i disagree okay i think but look i think there's a complicated thing that goes on and i think that one of the things is that we should look at is who he picked her coach and i love this coaching higher vic fangio a great pick there so those two things go hand in hand i don't know about hacking i don't know what they're asking him to like that that's just a tough thing i i can't go after man's job like that i think people are just so upset about the quarterback saying at this point the fact that he conspiracy theories were like they don't want him to do it because they don't want he wants to be the best one ever yeah like one day he strap on a helmet and run out onto the field and save the day if it were that easy would we have so many first round picks all the time i mean it's not like it easy math calculation yeah you re listen i mean his wreck is not great 'em it's not great but it's hard to go after man's job like who's actually doing like you don't know how it really works i dunno yes yeah i'm bad at bad as she doesn't do that all the time see i myself yogi two nine nine i think donald bill right asks i have seen i am someone who has seen deontay perform fourteen times very diverse questions you're fucked by the way questions you leave a positive review and i tunes i'll answer it somebody left what are some of the mentally ill positive you could really positive and then he gave a one star chosen accident 'em got i dunno i am no i go back and fix that whoever one start this come on yogi to nine wants to know what's the most you've ever seen someone in concert band or something homeland embarrassing it's not that embarrassing but like a little bit 'em only be the worst one that you could say right after that when like nickel back obviously but like rate my friend got into a fight at a bar because of nickelback so that would be a horrible answer strong there nickel doctor rhonda go back hey 'em only a nickel backer you a nickel backer like a nickel back supporter affair sure yeah i like it i mean it's either goo dolls have you were really out a whole bunch of county fairs i'm from michigan we'd county fairs it's like a lake county fairs 'em so that's pretty bad though like i mentioned the story the spring playing third eye blind was playing listen they bangers but one of my friends made a sign that said play iris which is obviously a good all song just be like a jerk an 'em wasn't named steve in the third eye blind he got so mad when he fell sign i mean i don't blame munos 'em row hit am thirteen wants to know outside of winning the super bowl what kim mahomes due to have a successful year i mean i get why put it that way 'cause like the expectations are so high it's not patrick mahomes is good as last year as he was last year it's a successful year i patrick mahomes is seventy percent of all a top five let's hope doesn't have the throws many touchdowns or first many yards like let's hope their defense improved so much the they win games without having to like show everything they've got in their playbook and like the first eight games really that's a great point a lot question lewke with many wise t did she really interesting question first of those really easy but then when i start looking at players cynthia with harder than i thought he asked which owner twenty eight non offensive player will be in the hall of fame twenty so aaron donald yes that guy that got that one of my first one aaron donald is old school we'll mac i do all of them it was crazy a which mccall it bonn miller mac key clean bobby wagner there twentyeight mark cueto this dude yeah he like i like out i like it all then i was like oh man okay so who's under twentyeight 'cause i just named like some of the best defensive players so i got up myles garrett i know that's way too early but but i have to be if they're under twentythree so he's obviously twenty five to two seasons great you know physically 'em joey bosa is twentythree also little injury concern there 'em i think the marcus lawrence is under but he's in i'm not so sure about him but he's one on jalen ramsey that was my other once and then he's like twentyfourth something and lawrence is twenty seven so those were the four guys i came up with this i think someone from this draft class will be in that number though because they were so strong and defend right i just think like i mean i i mean i'm a little partial to quit and wednesday while they had so much studying on him and just like a lot of extra he was one of the players that we focused on for one of the shows that i was on so you know it i think he's got a good chance to be in that category i mean there's any these guys the interior defensive players especially i think all you guys have a have a chance there's some really really really strong strong strong guys there 'em an attorney 'cause i'm just need to ask i was thinking about josh allen and i was thinking about the giants and take josh allen and we were talking about the giants next but before we do that i was just tell you guys about one of our podcast there is you and you probably already know about it i'm sure you already know about it and that's fantasy focus of the nfl season is upon us and feeling good paired fear fantasy draft we all are absolutely check out the wildly popular fantasy focus football podcast hosted by matthew berry and field yates who might have been on this podcast and defined your bell who's the best the download and subscribe at apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcast next how many needs to find it a come in here and will have some wine oh my god the finalists were why does she get 'em so look speaking of wine giants fans have been upset with me because i've been so hard on their quarterbacks and i don't wanna talk about daniel jones i don't think it's gonna i don't i i kinda think he's not gonna play actually i think they're gonna stick to that because they're they're so crazy 'em but i wonder what you lie because it's actually kind of interesting so i think you and i are aligned on this yeah i think we think the same about this well okay so like it's interesting because people have actually pointed out that if you look at me like season last year and you look at the numbers 'em they've got better the end in mind i think the numbers now completion percentage the best yes yes yes i did they will look at his a completion percentages in the best to you and yours protests so basically what the nor me numbers okay but i like i'm just saying he did get better as the season went on and when i say better i'm talking about like the twenty first quarterback not like the thirty first or whatever but when you really dig into it yellow it's not good it's very not good it's rough because when you look at things that are most predictive of wins like on third and long situations what happens on like when you see huge erosion in you're in any metric you wanna look at and most of the time it's like how often can you converted to a first down when it's like third and seven are more third and six or more when you're in like very obvious passing situations and you see see it goes down just a lot that is aj that is a tough thing to overcome because you need to stay on the field right like they're like you you're defense off the field you need to stay on the field and it can't be saquon barkley 'cause he's running at the trains like yeah you know like just total walls he's like having a truck through that like it's just crazy so it's tough but i think like like i love new york fans because they're so binary like it is either love or hate it is like black or right and i think it's like it's gray like but it's like gray going more tours black but yeah i think they're overly pessimistic i remember when they were winning super bowls and people were like you livestock and you're younger and they happen i yeah i kinda wanna see like he's not the worst quarterback in the nfl and i actually like so what's not reflecting the statistics from watching him last year and i you know when i read the opportunity as whenever i willfully shows to watch the giants 'em you know he he's self sacks law he actually noticed last season he made a bad decision which is some kind of strange it probably was a product of his a fear of being and he also threw a lot of passes it should have been intercepted in warren so i think maybe his interception rate which wasn't awful is not necessarily reflect what he was doing on the field but that situation line the wasn't as bad by the way is using but it was still not good 'em in some of the things around look you're not better if you bust odell beckham junior a no it's the fact but but this line should it'd be better they added kevin zeitler guard they got him in that trade a mike grammars or with tim legler that trade different if you're cleveland last year and guy he's good he's very sensitive but he's very inexpensive in good m you gotta think nate soldier will bounce back a little bit and will continue to get better will continue to get better so i i actually think it's a really strong chant this line look good i love air sea brian i think he's like honestly has such will be one of the best tight ends in the nfl so look when you think about those people who are really like true pass catchers in like he's truly a wide receiver in yeah in eight tight ends number yeah whatever yeah so like look evan ingram when you when you look at what he does and the the the presidency command i i would like to see his evolution without but without that would have i know that's that's a good point and it's like when we talk about like losing a receiver like odell beckham junior it's not just about in in you obviously the cuts kind of what you study which effect that players actually have my it's not just about losing him it's about kind of like altering the trajectory of the entire offense and the development of players and in man like i literally air ingram you not love this wide receiver group i they got like i mean tate and shepherd inexplicably paid paid a ton of their guys like i don't know who the outside i guess they added korey coleman you know they're taking a flyer on 'em some guys could i dunno i just know i do not like uber optimistic about it there's not a lot of deep perimeter like drying the like you just made it really hard in the middle of the field you've just made it even harder on those like doubling down on the fly and you know the way they use of like the way they used saquon barkley like you've made it harder yeah it it just like there's no tricks but i will say the one thing like you know when you see the evolution of manning's career and what they've added or change the season it's like this is another year make sure it's a different system is another year with pat shurmur in my fun fact about pat shurmur is that he is i'm from east lansing michigan and he was the center when a michigan state beat you sc in the rose well when i was like four really yeah so and i have no idea why under exactly i know he small i know you well whatever it worked and he lived there at the same time that i in when i was in love it middle school so he he would there until ninety seven anyways long story short more more time with him in the system will be better 'cause you ever remember like i dunno i dunno by lenny like new tricks 'cause we learn like whatever yeah yeah no it's it's tricky on him but i just don't see who that perimeter threat is i mean no one knows better catch and run receiver than odell beckham junior so you you're using this constant constant threat like this problem this whole roster perhaps eagles better raby honor corners not being the greatest you yeah i'm not neither everything about this steps are those kind of going through it like you gotta talk molly's cattleman when you jay hill good actually a they've got they added dexter lawrence which was hilarious unpredictable but snacks harrison is which really good like i wasn't saying that like otherwise fan only but i'm happy with that he i don't that was fun you ask centers on like the biggest nat the biggest thorn in their side as you head through the nose tackle but they want nothing to do with it it's invariably snacks harrison which it snacks always and they're like oh easy answer though i mean at that one was interesting but i do like i do like them going back to get you know trading back up into the in you know to into the first surrounding i think they had some decent moves 'cause i liked her on her back i i like more than most people are opposite janoris jenkins 'em yeah i do too i they got also a the fourth round kid julian love from a notre dame a lot of people like a no shame him as a decent idea but these were like like that right now in the past there on the right like linebacker doesn't feel like a great third round pick when you have a lot of holes elsewhere i grants lorenzo carter who i do like could take another step forward marcus gold and i kind of feel like his best days are behind it but i dunno i dunno vernon scott i have no idea who's taking down the quarterback on djibril peppers i thought they were i i had heard rumors there djibril peppers they were mad on offense really thinking about moving into office he would trade it but yeah i mean he is the sort of jack of all trades but shoot i dunno at that that's befuddling everything they do is befuddling tonight and i would you know break it down build it up i don't i don't know but they're not down he likes gonna be like just good enough to win six games and then i'll miss out on to hey that's the giants all right let's talk about dallas a team that you were positive on at the beginning i am a team that i too have positive feelings about but i have concerns as i was going through 'em and i wanna start actually with this concern usually a starting quarterback and will get caught i'm gonna work backwards 'perfect safety what the hell man why don't they just go out and girl thomas around matthew were drafted guy i mean i we did you see what jared goff did jeff he's in the playoffs last year i did see he ended that man well i don't i don't like this team is good enough to be a playoff team and i don't understand why i guess they went out and got george elo got a one year deal phenomena i mean i just i just think that phenomenal at the top of the draft this year i was there i dunno one thornhill they could have drafted you know i just don't understand why they didn't address the position so for me the one thing that they did they could be thinking in like look it's rod marinelli so like i'm not sure he's he's great so i it's hardly it i'm sure he's right and i'm wrong no no no but the one thing that i think he might be maybe here's a clue is like yeah i think that they got more bang for the buck with the combination of late and vander ash and jaylen smith smith 'cause we know of jalen smith who's gonna work out turns out he's awesome i mean we we knew he was awesome before he got hurt so we just a nobody would recover from his injury but you know the the combination of them in the middle of the field ridiculous has been so good that maybe they thought that what for whatever whatever reason especially you know given the fact that like that that's the thing i've been studying this off season is the impact in the middle of feel like that linebacker position like we saw like we saw dairies leonard in whole we saw the combination of late and vander ash in jaylen smith for the cowboys and we saw super effective yeah so then you see something like like one of these like kind of counter into like what's next what's the chess piece for lady that's where like the focus right well that's where the nfl offices are thriving now is in the middle of young men using their tight end wide open right i to be a no fly zone because you didn't murdered and now java they're doing whatever the hell they want in the middle of the field and you really need that those linebackers he's been covering goes side to side so i i guess so that's my only that to me that's like the only thing when i like you know try to figure out what they were thinking like why they felt confident enough right i mean nobody got hurt insane it's insane jaylo did it a lv sean lee you know i mean well sean lee will ask like yeah and then they will always get that split wish sean lee this without show now like totally totally like right up there with these guys though it's become less of an issue and then they've got a kind of interesting piece i thought in christian covington from houston who actually i've been hearing hearing there you want to you as a lineman not as a linebacker but does give them some optionality there so it's like you know they did they paid lawrence a lot a lot a lot as wendo brought in robert quinn okay running robert quinn who i this is always my unlike shook when i looked this up robert quinn is twenty nine years old how would you like forty five robert is forty five i liked it a lot of my wikipedia page which has my agents to oh that's the most yeah some evil find out all right and i don't know but i figured out a turkey that it's it's upsetting right the enemy i do but i don't know the real enemy because they also say that my del macgyver i wanna is amazing stuff incredible i wouldn't use this opportunity you that's my listeners favor i hate whoever put the picture on my way pay pedia page it's so aglow change it up yesterday one of you change it to a good picture of me it's like a candid like weird from distance shot of me with the code on and it's so ugly i hate it so please tell me you did it saxon properly sake you 'em so anyways yeah that's that's the whole defense and i think you're explanation it's interesting and confidence 'em i think the wide receiver group the skills it's imperfect still tight end is obvious it's very interesting how young they are overall as yeah i'm like they're the youngest team in the nfl jason witten bringing the age group but there yeah end sneaky robert randall cobb they handle you gotta be like let me see twentyeight i know about to tell you i think he's under thirty so yet nuts i know 'em progressive anyways yeah they're young i think 'em i do you have any other than you know i i don't think the barbecue ribs i will see what's omari he kinda faded off a little bit but they're saying with a full off season of practice they're gonna would have zeke because yeah you in the stack box is insane mhm he faces the most sack box i think of any running back in the nfl does he does by like seven percent in an in addition to that he also gets the most yards yards after being like okay there's there's when i'm using computer vision the contact is tricky because we were watching it if someone is not running at you and they put their button you that's not real contact but sometimes that can can model the data yes 'cause then subjective those counting statistics can be subjective freight so try to do it with the commuter like if someone coming at you or they like being put you right so he's the one who gets the most people coming at him at speed real he so he gets tackled at speed more than anyone else to which i thought it was very clear because they know what they're gonna do i don't think they're tricking anybody with that yeah and i think that's less about be off into line and more about these predictability of the play calling right correct yeah is it it's not happening behind the line of scrimmage it's happening after and they just know it's gonna be like got it but it will say we're gonna see some different looks this year no scotland a hand that we've kenmore so that is an interesting to see what counts guy well yeah so listeners this podcast might remember dinner lobski talking about what he i thought we might see a in damage really you know like exciting exciting look it's all speculative at this point right 'em but i think given what this offense has then then leak concept of having like you know divers formations and using different personnel packages increase that motion and using act like all those things are very exciting either stand behind the line to like then that would be exciting weekend and you have a little more room forever rates a little more forgiving when you're getting crushed should be i mean getting frederick back is huge issue only jillian he was pretty good i think frederick his you know a lot more about offense of line than me but his value his brain and being able to take the pressure off of deck you know in terms of like identifying coverages and calling out holding centres a really important centers are really important papers were very very good center and they've got probably if not i mean it's it's very hard to argue anyone's better than zack martin at right guard s and that's a really interesting spot because that's where you've seen zeke had his most success in terms of like so i i measured the lanes like on either side of zack martin because i don't know if called so i can't really i don't know who's assignment the blocker the i don't know who's assignment is so all i can do is create like little just measure what happens next to people and he gets like over a yard more per carry when he bread lines that behind that makes sense so i mean and that's a that's a huge deal like a yard a lot in as an average rate not a crazy way right that's crazy and also like makes perfect sense any other guard a cutter williams you know should improve i think they're full you know i will say like my shout out to the cowboys because if you look to see like in the league of analytics groups as far as like oh line progressiveness i think they're really analytics team understands how to evaluate lyman like i get a chance of talks almost almost all of whom which is really cool and they've been right like not not the like you know you go to the combine this past season like you know i was really had patrick mahomes like no no better and everything that before i know you're able to look back at like when they when they when they were actually actually saying at the time and they've been right like really could they have a really good like beat on it yeah and people remembered ashley fired their offensive line coach midseason last year which took a lot of people by surprise replaced him with his paws zander right 'em and they're playing with smart club and they got some good results especially from lyle collins and some of those young guys so if they can return to form this year i think it's remember they had the worst gradual forever and that is why i don't think they're gonna win the division on wednesday well also i think dealer awesome all right last section of segment is always but first i wanna tell you guys about zip recruiter hiring used to be hard multiple job sites stacks of bridesmaids a confusing review process but today hiring can be easy and you only have to go to one place to get it done dip recruiter dot com slash meta never gonna send your job to over a hundred of the web's leading job boards but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter 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those awesome anymore though i am i glad when they're like oh god just not anybody's okay so i can't even watch field goals in which i feel like are similar in some way or i'm just like i can't like this port dude if it's coming down to the guy i can't watch it but if you're down to according parkey i have to like over my eyes guys i'm a i'm a baby see i i kind of like i hate it but i love hating it right like it's just like the sweat you're like oh i care so much wider like oh it's like watching the people go into the basement in a war movie and like i'm covering i do not reid watch horror movies i can't i can't either i'm with you on that's how i feel especially in college kickers i'm like i can't oh no way dialed i have like one of my one of my very best friends brothers with the college kicker vanderbilt and he made the not top ten on oh no and i put kcrw's on the not all lakers it was crazy so yeah no it was hard to watch this okay so you're you're stats stats loving one what is your favorite stat right now not like the most important stat doesn't have to be likes the most predictive are significantly just what's something that you find like something you you are looking at maybe not just like a metric or whatever that you find very compelling gonna sound like and pandering to a little bit here but but it's true i'm i'm really trying to understand play action i kind of understand the impact is more 'cause i read some articles more is better yeah and it was kind of the the play action train i'm on well for it fits right like i i wanna know when you should end when more is better like i think right now more is better because the ones who are doing it more better at it right so like i like a little bit of the you know tail wagging the dog but ultimately i wanna know when it and then like when do we start seeing like you know draws comeback rightly off at right now so it's like wasn't the chefs be some i'm trying to understand evellina values the most play action 'cause you're totally right that the teams who are using it are good teams and there's all right right like they're better at it down there and like in the goff comes to mind you know and doing it eleven or junior like obviously rams eleven seattle the way i and i would i like what i'm curious about like where the bad teams a lot of 'cause they're don't know if they are yeah that that's what it is like so i'm just i'm i'm confused at like not confused i'm i'm really interested in like what works and also wanna know like how i've actually been like tried it with some defensive coaches to ask them how they kind of game plan it right like what is he attornal question does the run game matter at all or is it and i wanna know the key i gotta know every defensive players like the run game matters but then statistically that doesn't bear out at all as has been off discussed on this podcast and other right but it's like does it not does does it not work because people are strategically aligning there pete there chess pieces correctly or like ben look at the patriots like that doesn't seem to be the truth like sony michelle running like a really big freaking deal so it's like it's like one of the like i wanna know how it's how they're thinking about because ultimately if you just ask coach is how they think about it then you'll see like what the next it's gonna be ray how're you what's the antidote to play action hello i dunno 'cause i mean that's that's kind of like what they're thinking about off season right like oftens of coaches get a chance that's to go first anywhere defense coaches have to go after i wanna see more nerdy questions i also had this question did you see the bleacher report football tweet celebrating the world cup i did not take a look at her oh my god cynthia you may so you know like i'm like bad and you're not online that what it is i'm just i'm not that like i'm not funny i'm not i don't pretend to be funny like it makes me a little anxious i first of all i think you're funny second of all 'em i admire you so so my thinking not to like go about myself on a tangent but like when collide leonard like reeves safety entire nfl pulled off this massive heist with like what's more interesting than lebron's decision which rivers and entire tv show that wise fricken fascinating but he also like engineer this whole incredible like genius sneaky ocean's eleven south situation an advisory and also didn't tell anyone which i could ever do but i would also like man look at why if i just loved off i would get so much shit done i'd be like quiet leonard so i i admire you for not being extremely online i just i had to break up my phone a little but like we were like getting a little too close and i just had to had to do it goals all right got it i'm gonna change my question you were just in alaska yes oh do you are you saying the bleacher report to you know it's like this weird 'em like mural earl of yeah great americans i guess but it has like the cast of stranger things in modern family i remember seeing this on the internet for like two hours and then they deleted it what i wanted to ask you if you could add any like great american to that imaging who is like a great american can you feel belongs on it you know look i think that in the sound weird from a person from issue but like i'm lately i really think maggie's like a really great i love i love it i he he gets his his jeff games on point like it's everything's hilarious about what he does but he's also like he knows when it'd be like serious i'm like real like when it comes to like you know i think he's none of his players think he's like a goofball in any way right but then like he actually is like really funny in personally he actually gives a crap if you like after some help he's more than willing don't so he's a pretty great i mean i'm obviously in football mindset right yeah but i you know i like we had a pretty good one pretty good i like i like where you're going with this except for the part where you said just instead of gifts 'em labs claritin it's okay you're not extremely on line so well i look i i actually have asked this question right now i know so bad what you're gonna say the guy made it say what should i do i like one i just really like oh unit butter you go either way i go either way i just really like peanut butter so like it actually makes you happier to like think of peanut butter so that's really just only thing that like literally mind totally fair enron alaska i notice 'cause i follow on instagram you should follow in town it's an 'em i think you were like doing something really active impression i got yes i am one of those look i i'm gonna i'm gonna like preface this by saying i am not a crazy marathon person because you went to alaska run a marathon tragedy one in every state is the dumbest thing ever sat in my entire life but now they've done it in twentythree stupid marathons in like a kind of can't quit on such a nerd and then it comes out that you're running a marathon huge nerd i know and i didn't like train like ask anyone who actually knows you don't get up and do that like weird sunday thing where like nobody could talk to me what am i mean like long run i don't do any of that stuff i was surprised like i was surprised they didn't feel awful after it because i had no business feeling okay at all at the longest running when i was like i dunno eight miles once like it was not not find a quiet but question is if last got a football team what would you call it okay so i recently learned when i was there that when puffins eat too much they kick it off the ground in their belly drags on the water and their toes so cute so how do we do with a puff and because they're really kind of awesome but a bear almost eight now my run so yeah no at a bear was a first down away from me and i said i called like maybe i'll maybe like there is a black and it was ten yard first down away the guy behind me like ashley more like executive manageable by the nice ones though right no out well no i don't actually think any of it like it is and i feel alone but it was like i don't even like pull my phone out in time to take a picture of his terrified so maybe something to do with the i dunno gosh you're better at this like good pun stuff now that's i liked the puffins 'cause they kind of looked like fullbacks in a fullback so they can't get their coming up the crowd they're really cute yeah i dunno football team would wanna be like if you don't care speaking of cute and not carrying last question as always comes from lynn i would ask gonna stand in front of ernie wow when i explained to the so ernie adams is like the godfather of of quality quantitative and qualitative announces he's basically like the first analytics professional he just doesn't have that title and they don't call it that so he's worked with built in this thing with the patriots guys they're like oh we all know about technology like snapface nc girl either like i mean great speakers i would love the idea of bill bell check like communicating with his players like when you're not supposed to be a snapchat because no one would believe it yes right like

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"Now the lace welcome to first-class Fatherhood welcome everybody episode to Sixty Two podcast I am happy as always to be here with you thanks for stopping by exploded in his face you will think twice about complaining about life after you hear his story definitely do not miss out on tomorrow's warrior Wednesday podcast Thursday nfl hall of Famer Terrell Eggs Dot com promo code father all right joy now I nothing beats American flag made in the USA right well how about an American flag made in the USA by veterans out of duty worn fatigues from all branches in the military transformation because Dr Miami is a celebrity doctor who is a plastic surgeon and he performed livestream surgeries on social media his videos have been viewed more than two million analogous and you're listening to I last fatherhood much as we tell them how beautiful they look it doesn't seem to make any difference if they don't feel it it could lead to some depression and the possible conversation about having plastic surgery so this is a scenario that David stops by he is one of the few running back to rush for more than two thousand yards in a single season td is going to be here on Thursday and Friday Medal of honor recipient and retired Navy we'll be here with me and just a few minutes so please stick around for the interview I know that many of you dads out there may have wives or girlfriends that are a little upset about the appearance of their body after having children and four visit combat flags dot com and use the Promo Code father and I last fatherhood listeners will save ten percent off their purchase veteran owned American made combat flee that is exactly what you get with combat flags combat flags are handcrafted from duty war fatigues and offer a tangible piece of freedom to the American people each flag last father he is an American celebrity doctor who practices plastic surgery he has grown an audience of over two million views per day on his social media where he lives streams as surgeries it is so times a day is a fellow New Jersey guy so I'm happy to have him here today he's also the author of Children's book which helps kids understand why their moms have had plastic surgery Dr Miami ads having very interesting guests for you guys today Michael Sauer is better known on social media as Dr Miami. 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you do because I I've read how old were you about when I became a father and how to becoming a dad kind of change your perspective on life well okay so I became a dad at age twenty seven and what I can you know what I mean so like I watch video I try to teach them a little bit download apps you know but they don't want here for Ma'am terrible they have coaches that people actually know what they're as my perspective hugely us I actually became Grew up in a traditional Jewish household but I became much more religious and God centered and Dan My name is Michael Call me Dr Miami Plastic Surgeon and I make people feel better about their bodies and millions of people watch me on Social Media Instagram snapchat picked off you name it dabbling a little music here and there but mainly in the plastic surgeon that's what they do and that yeah you have built a tremendous following here and have certainly taken advantage of all these social media options one I kinda on the site all right fair enough I please if you could take a second year to hit my listeners with a little bit about your background and what you do sure I'm a plastic surgeon purpose is to make a person feel better about their bodies so they can kind of get over it and have confidence and go on and do the things that they want to do so how that book is a great example of how if you don't feel good about yourself it does limit your belief that limits your options in life I it can affect what kind of job you apply for who you marry how their own skin and if she doesn't feel good in their own skin that can affect the marital relationship in the bedroom and just in her in her life in general you know happy wife Ed or young mothers right after they're done having kids you tell me express lifts embezzling implants presumed boatlifts very body reshaping try to get them back a maximum Malta's books psycho cybernetics race book wow I in the past I bet you people that nowadays Uh Okay You you get involved with coaching at all or you watch them all from the sideline I suck at basketball I'm I'm actually I'm here horrible horrible but yeah yeah you know it's uncommon that it actually causes an issue but that is a very very common understandable kind of male reaction to you say she's not dying or anything and it was great with my patients and then once it got released to the wider public there was a little bit of a backlash because people thought it was you did come out with the book there my my beautiful mom what was what was the genesis in a book there and how is it 'cause he so the book was the point the purpose of the book was for my own when the bandages come off Monday looks different and to a five or six year old child that's like you know it's just weird you know it needs an explanation I think most kids uh they were before their babies are even better possible yeah and I I know that a lot of fathers a Lotta husbands I struggle with this their wives or girlfriends or what have you I speak to other people whether you make eye contact or not all those things carry over to every aspects so Although yeah what I do a surgery that the real change happens on the inside a senior citizens age how does this stuff hold up all right guys many of you have hit me up saying that you would like to start your own podcast and I am telling you right now anchor is the easiest way to get this done number one it's free I have never paid a dime to publish any of my or go to anchor DOT FM to get started all right dad the NFL season is now a tool to explain your kids what's going to happen so they don't get scared right now down so I really short e. instead it's very audience but you know I it's necessary it really is casts and their creation tools allow you to record and edit right from your phone or your computer anchored those all the distribution as well so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts nations you know what I had a lot of young mothers coming in with their kids until and they would never explain anything kid was happening and the kids be scared out of their minds there's a happy life so right when when when then come in and they ask me those questions you know he's just signed that something's wrong it's not but if it makes her happy it will make you happy it's a real a groundbreaking book yeah from reading that I I mean I understand the importance of the self image and how and it has an effect on our limited beliefs but a so how much of what you did L. because here's mommy doctor's office ends up with bandages blood you know I can't take them to school can't play with kids for a while and then like what would advise would you give the father out there I would say don't over think it will benefit you in the end yeah okay deal with this actually psychological versus plastic surgery necessities all it's all psychological it's all psychological did I what I do psychiatry with a nice the whole thing that's still kids it's better to tell them what's going on then to have this whole in their psyche later you know wondering what happened to Mommy Yeah often wonder about this to my dot com by using my Promo Code First Class that's one word first class maybe you want to see a concert or a Broadway show save twenty bucks on the tickets on seatgeek dot com I and many more also you can make money with no minimum listenership it's everything you need to make a podcast in one place what are you waiting for download the free anchor. Today Tom use the Promo Code First Class IT'S A slam dunk deal dad's seatgeek Dot Com Promo Code First Class Fatherhood is the best seat in the house yeah so that was that was my next where I was just saying that what kind of advice do you have in the data out there who is trying to you know his wife is telling them they want the president plans to the ASS retouching whatever it is you do what's going on they think it's all about them we always you know we're women we think all about us but it's not about us at all in the vast majority of cases just about the women's feeling good what I mean it's different than a tattoo tattoos you everybody needs to you know as tight and look you know a certain way on us and the Major League Baseball season winding down there is no better time to take your kids to the ballgame and first-class father who listeners can save twenty dollars off their tickets on seatgeek maybe grandma will come over and take care of you for a few weeks mommy comes back she's GonNa take bandages is what's no look like different but that's just you know it's Okay Oh you the answers it varies so in the in the vast majority of cases it holds up no worse than their body would have without you know what I mean in other words it's not gonna you're not GonNa have yeah and I know that a Lotta moms they struggle with their looks and their bodies after they're giving burt so a lot of your clients are a lot of them bombs and one of the ninety five percent of mine ninety five percent uncle for her to be honest and then what the boys they don't have social media at all they're completely off disconnected it now okay and what does this one is the new understand what what that does and they're okay with it do they do they ever check out your social media and watch the stuff live or no no almost never know there's a children's book that you're just GonNa read you know out of the blue to some random kid now it's not it's for a mom that's going to have already made the decision to have it and this is yes sir agent they need to be told something so we made a children's book that explains you know Mommy's having plastic surgery what's going to happen you know maybe that it will take you to work outstripped supply of you know reputable surgeons that can do it safely and so we're trying to educate more surgeons to do it safely and also to get the public's so I always wanted to be a surgeon since I was a little kid and and it just kind of surgery and then once I I saw my first then you know we were trying to tell them hey you look great you don't need to do this and we say what were you trying to look beautiful number sexy for trying to attract the guy you see relationship issues as a result of the plastics what kind of analysts do you have six twenty years down the line when these people hit that senior citizens age how does this stuff hold up well I wouldn't say I've seen some seventy plus euro women that they look some but most in most of the time eventually agent catches up with you but no worse for wear and but you know learn study and practice plus surgery since then been Gospel longtime that's incredible yeah that's awesome and it seems like it's younger issue a lot of people that come in that have had surgeries elsewhere they've been all kind of like a messed off wrong and you're GonNa fix you know you can always fix things or a girl who's going to puberty and teenage years and oppressor just way too big for a body that can be done at sixteen fifteen sixteen but in what kind of questions to ask they don't end up in trouble it's a great operation but just have significant risks and so we're trying to make sure people know that it's not something to be taken lightly yeah federal unless there's a really good psychological or physical need for it you should at least wait till eighteen and I feel he probably early twenties is when you should start for sure eighteen before eighteen unless unless it's a nose job in a in a teenage girl that could be done at sixteen or seventeen they just us on board here here and they're here and they're it depends it depends on the age in the states of ever gone through you know but in general that this way way way the hands Oh you look fine it doesn't work that way people these are these are really they come from a deep place and sometimes I never and what type what type of disciplinarian are you when it comes to being a father not too bad actually I think I'm I'm more of a good cop thanks so initially my daughter had some social media but then she voluntarily off it I think winter dad became cool on social media but yeah I mean I don't see too much of that stuff it's not practice tends to board just you know the first time patients and there are some doctors specialized in doing kind of secondary jobs book up before and after pictures is back in like nineteen ninety before the Internet I just felt like a a book before and after pictures plastered his office and it blew my mind like this just a backup does that make sense if it's like that way every now and then I lay down the law but rarely I kind of one hand the number okay very big new trend so I know you're you're on a lot of fathers and stuff so that's something that there may be in in the future maybe daddy makeovers unhealth- not all the time not every time but when when he can't help it does and you know long term studies show an increase self esteem that lasts a long long time you know one one new operation that is just lily just FDA cleared is a new penis implant for men which is if it takes off could be and how about this one of the things we all right now and just as ads especially you know you have the teenagers there is with the social media stuff in general so I know you're on there all the time yourself and the the tears that people cry over self image they're real there you can't like you can't just wish them away you know as parents or as friends you can't see live and then when you laid down the boundaries move those boundaries one step farther awesome thank you thank you very much appreciate things out then you think you need to be because they will always cross the line so you know for example if you if you don't mind your kid smoking pot you have to make sure that you say they can never smoked pot what about that I I it's just hard for my daughter's only five now obviously so I'm always way but I guess no matter how many times you can tell you're doing that she looks beautiful it doesn't solve all your problems but you know if you're stick out too far you're feeling it was too big or your your self conscious about your chest or whatever it is your body post pregnancy it Kinda like when I see people with these wacky tattoos and stuff like it looks good at the moment like I know Ross restructuring but analyst you have on six twenty years down the line and when these people in younger here now as far as it is kids are getting into the city what do you think stays aged for kids or people general start messing around with this stuff so you know have you say oh you could smoke pot they will smoke pot and they will also do cocaine or something beyond that it will push the boundaries beyond whatever boundaries set so set it think about your boundaries ought to be out there listening I would say I try I try very hard to think about the kind of children you WANNA raise like your ultimate goal push-back a little bit further than that and you might be okay yeah very well loved a message there's been an honor for me I gotTa say Dr Miami I last father and thank you so much time we have a navy seal legend and also a medal of honor recipient retired Navy seal may as the chief Ed buyers joins me on the program here all right thank you guys so much for listening that's all I got if this is your first time listening to the podcast please get over there and back not subscribe button you do not WanNa miss all the action that is coming your way right here on first-class fatherhood all right it's incredible what they were they're able to do it would fool any man like they can turn a boy into a girl and vice versa and it would it's as pretty convincing it is eight let's put it this way it is better than the two that fair yeah that's fair yeah how far is your

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"Now the lace welcome to first-class fatherhood welcome everybody to bestow to sixty four to podcast I am happy as always to be here with you thanks for stopping by it is urges veteran owned American made combat flags dot Com Promo Code Bother Time Ronnie Lott join me here on the show and next week we're going to take a trip back to the secondary with another nfl hall of Fame Legend Mike Haynes will be joining me here next week Mike veterans out of duty warned fatigues from all branches in the military that is exactly what you get combat flags combat flags are handcrafted from Duty Ward fatigues offer I cannot say thank you enough for all your support tomorrow on the podcast I'm going to be joined by a true American hero retired navy seal master chief and Medal of Honor Recipient Ed buyers you're right back with NFL Hall of Famer. Terrell Davis I'm Alex Place and you're listening to first-class bother Goin- me here and guys there are only seven navy seals who have ever received the Medal of honor you can hear from two of them right here on the show talking about fatherhood and family life tomorrow at buyers last week of course legendary navy seal Mike Thornton stopped by so to say that I'm humbled is an understatement and if you guys can spread the word about this podcast I would really appreciate it let me nothing beats in American flag made in the USA right well how about an American flag made in the USA the end Sanders Kurt Warner Andre Reid Willie Roaf and Morton Anderson all here talking about fatherhood and family life but as for today we are focused on the offense Terrell Davis incredible guests to bring you guys today he is one of the few running backs in history to rush for two thousand yards in a single season he is a two time superbowl champion and a super bowl MVP as well Terrell Davis will be here 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all right joining me now is a first-class father he is a two time superbowl champion he was the MVP of Super Bowl thirty two and in nineteen ninety eight he was refund in your neighborhood radio contact know about the show that's your celebrating fatherhood and Family Life Fatherhood rocks family values rule and every day is father's Day right here with me class father who you can see on the NFL network his hall of fame speech was just awesome and it's very cool that I have the opportunity to speak with him and so many other incredible dads on this show and I owe that all to you listeners out there sittard by many football experts to be the best cornerback in the history of the NFL so do not miss out on that one other NFL here on the podcast here if you go through the archives of the show include call first class father that's pretty cool yes indeed let's start right here how many kids you haven't how old on it I have three kids I have an eight year old it's so cool for me to say Terrell Davis welcome to first-class Fatherhood effort has been I've been never never called it before so it's it's an honor to be three and you know there could have been another boy and I told my wife I said are you sure you want another child because you gotta be prepared for it to be either okay very cool yeah I have three boys myself then we got the girl on the fourth try we didn't get around four we'd have five by now over here yeah we would have stopped by I think we were rolling the dice number he's there they weren't as interested in baseball Middle Son plays the same same sports basketball track football and soccer my daughter is a first year did you know I I try to watch from the sideline but you know we've had some some interesting things that happened with coaching so I've had to step in a few times to be the coach Betty came out with me and we were we were ecstatic awesome what type of sports or activities you got him into yeah so my they play everything and just like the season my my middle son his coach was a younger coach and you know he wasn't as experienced so we kind of saw what was happening and so I kinda missed the need for it but I try to have my kids here my voice at home and on the field and I want them to have a coach outside of me but the board and it was another board I mean that's it you know we're not we're not going for that girl so thank God when we had our gender reveal party the little balloons that's in canton but since I've retired I've been doing for the NFL network I've stayed around football I enjoyed it I try to stay active and only physically but mentally and a lot of business endeavors of company I'm working on now calling the Fi- which is a CB hip extra company or that I retired another blessing came at twenty seventeen when I was inducted into the pro football hall of fame which was pretty cool getting little jacket and ring and a bust couple of pro bowls they had a really successful career there in Denver you know we're playing on the Mike Shanahan from nineteen ninety five to two thousand and one and then after it's on the six year old son and a four year old daughter Otis's eighties Jackson Kid names miles and my daughter named Dylan noticed son Jackson please isn't attractive football play soccer basketball they played baseball but you know kids I love football and I thought that everything I did in football was the pinnacle of my life you know playing in the national football how be able to work hard you know her work hard now than be able to play a lot more later but yeah that's pretty much what I'm doing yeah you've had an incredible careers if there's something that I think they should work on we'll certainly work on it and I'll give them some tips but yeah I try to I try to stay stay as far away as possible but yeah you know part of Me Yeah my background is from San Diego born and raised in San Diego with the with the high school there with the college won't be stayed in liked I loved the game play as much as I used to play but I still love you know I I just can't get enough of it I just can't get enough time to get out there but you know hopefully we have a drink we have some teachers trains we're launching to help with pain management and swelling information stuff like that that's really been fun awesome awesome experiences for short sorelle how did how about how old were you when you first became a dad and had it becoming a father kind of change your perspective on life I started you know that was that was pretty cool that was awesome but then when I had kids it just gave me a whole new meaning and purpose in life and ever since I've had my kids that's been my purpose the state Senate voted on me and I went to Georgia I drafted out of Georgia playing football in the sixth round by the Broncos within Denver for I you're playing track not playing playing soccer and so next year she'll be running track and doing all the other sports so we try to keep them busy sorta myself in it to help out a little bit more to give these kids foundation so they know what's going on so yeah that's how I'll get in you know when when awesome for them and all the sports and see which one sticks yeah I hear that do you do you get involved with coaching at all or do you like to enjoy all sports from the sideline you know I had have a void in my life and I didn't have a family I wasn't married and so you know I knew there was something missing their end up getting married and then seven years I've played with the Broncos won two championships one of seven back to Russia two thousand yards You know had when I was I'm forty six when I was I was thirty eight at the time yeah so I was pretty late waited you know pretty late in life and when I'm watching it I I say man I gotTa Get out there and IT Kinda helped not only my kids but the other kids who have a chance to learn something so I you know I try to look at it two ways but any bucks on the tickets on seatgeek dot com use the Promo Code First Class it's a slam dunk deal dad's seatgeek Dot Com Promo Code first-class Fatherhood the business I thought that was I thought that was it but I'll but after you know football had ended there was a period where I realized that wow own dad my dad was my dad wrote the book on this on discipline and dollars off their tickets on SEATGEEK DOT COM by using my Promo Code First Class that's one word first class maybe you want to see a concert or a Broadway show save twenty your own podcast than I am telling you right now anchor is the easiest way to get this done number one it's free I have never paid time to publish any of my podcasts and their creations will allow you to record and edit right from your phone or your computer anchored those all the distribution as well so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many more also you can make money with no minimum listen ship it's everything you need to make a podcast in one place what are you waiting for download the free 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FM to get started what about as far as discipline what type of disciplinarian are you as a father is it similar ms the best seat in the house all right guys many of you have hit me up saying that you would like to start all right dad's the NFL season is now upon us and the Major League Baseball season is winding down there is no better time to take your kids to the ballgame and first-class father who listeners can save twenty late so I'm forty six now before seventy this month before the seven coming up in October the twenty eighth but yeah you know here's what I realized before I had with it but what I did was it was a lot that I learned growing up that I loved you know that I kinda us a little bit I mean obviously so but yeah that's that's it everything I do in my life I is it revolves around my kids I travel quite a bit you know which which is hard but I try to mason I used I I grew up I have five brothers so six boys growing up my dad you know he had Kinda have that that sturm to train station and I asked you to stop and you just keep walking by train so it might that might sound severe but that's the way I think I think well if you don't listen in holy went into Super Bowl's like I mentioned and then having that for you know euphoria of of just get on the top of the world at your position being the best has a different meaning there's a purpose in life that I thought I had lost after I finish playing football so yeah so when I my kids my first child I had most importantly I just hope these kids have fun and trying to get the tools to move forward yeah right on with that well said if you could just take a minute here to hit my listeners with a little bit about your background what you do around off we'll also have a money management company in Denver called Alpha One tax and wealth busy along with my family and I just you know play golf go to the game and and miss my kids game but that really wasn't an option so I went to the pre game stuff before and happens and they were gonNA flight and make it back home the way it is and so I think my my wife and I think we struck a pretty good balance with them to kind of have them well rounded so they understand structure they understand I love you so don't think that because I'm being hard on you that I don't love you and you know you know that I don't like you know I do but that's just important events that I make it to you know Georgia played Notre Dame the other day I was in Georgia Athens and I was like man I i WanNa go to the game so bad but my kids had a football game the next day watched the second half of the game but more importantly what it'd be back here for my kids so my kids are everything to me and I try to make sure my schedule is busy as it is I small moments then you can't you're not gonNA listen when it's important but all that was really from sports it's all just kind of training discipline and sport that I kinda us as well unlimited they're they're playtime so during the school we Monday through Friday or Monday through Thursday really it's no no video games I'm very very big I'm strict on on just listening right I'm just like I'm just listening Pana tension and just doing as on Sunday and Georgia's game was Saturday night and they didn't end to midnight on the East Coast and I live in La so I was like I mean we really went to hard decision you know so I want them to know that that I love them and I tell them that every single day you know no matter what I love you even when you you know it appears that I'm being hard on you bad my kids know you ask them you say your dad always ask you to quit this question because I look at my kids and I said what do you think I'm GonNa say to you they'll say you love me and I'm like that's right the you know you can't be as fiscal kid anymore we used to get spankings and weapons and stuff like that can't do that anymore but so take some of the firmness in my authority and that's what he did and so on so I use a little bit of suffering my mom which more of the nurturing and I'll use a little bit for my dad but I'm I'm really big my purpose has been to be the best bother I could be to them you know they've been number one and everything and I've done and so now it's like wow now life has I grew up with with your own dad my dad was my dad wrote the book on this on disciplined and he was he was pretty heavy therefore it and if you had asked me this question let's say ten years ago I may have said that I wasn't a totally one hundred percent in are I hand coordination just you know all this stuff it helps as long as they're not sitting on the IPAD and the tab all day but my kids when we're and that's because what we have now is we have better understanding of concussions more so than when I played obviously what I mean by that it was for a lot of us parents out here is all the technology we're all competing with all the video games screen time is your eight year olds to play in the madden the fortnight how'd you kind of technology and of course they are you know like every other kid they they love the game nights and they're playing minecraft a lot I don't know what very limited with the tablets and ipads and stuff like that but during the weekend we give them some time to play not all weekend but we give them more time to them he blessed because they like outdoors they love to go outside and throw the football around you know go play soccer swimming so they're they're they're the game we try to strike tablets and high pads because we recognize that you know listen to some of this a lot of stuff is really good for them you know for them to you know there's a lot of very educational programs on the two father my kids but I'm fair you know I'm I'm balanced I'm fair I'm not just all hammer I'm oh I love my every night before they go to bed even not even technology has gotten a lot better with helmets helmets you know they've they've got these helmets that are that are now certified to pass certain testing and I but they love the minecraft and they they definitely love fortnight so we try to balance it like this we know we we never it's not that we we consider it bad would just with them with everything they do it's not just one sided and we don't have we don't believe in taking things away from them so they don't experience it extensively I played a concussion literally meant that you had to be knocked out and then they were sorry you can see your point if you had you know spots and you had beans where you are I say kind of kind of stuff and you know it doesn't matter because to me that's the difference between life and death for example if I say stop and You keep walking well what if we disciplined down on stance timing expectations all that stuff is we work with them on all those different things very well I love that philosophy to roll and how about one of the the F. The NFL guys when I have monitor how do you feel about your kids playing contact football what's a good age for them to start I'm you know what I'm I'm I am the ambassador lifetime so they've reduced all of that if no longer that kind of hitting so with all those different steps and measures fell safer you guys don't mind you're doing it but just be mind mindful that you're not gonNA play with the tablet for four hours you know you have an hour here we put we put a timer on there that's a good thing to do yeah and one other thing I just wanted to ask you to just because you said your oldest is playing football that's another decision that's very difficult for a lot of parents out here the NFL now has their updated version a lot of helmets can't even be worn now if they don't meet these standards I think third thing that we teach techniques a lot different we used to have drill that were they weren't really football drills they were just health history else and so you you have all those thousands of repetitions and even from the youth level they're now teaching heads program which I love I think the fourth thing is that we don't hit a lot more anymore I mean there's there's only hit anymore in practice when I used to play tap during the weekends and let them play with it and sometimes I got to play a little mad when my kids in the in the house and they still don't know how they how they doing it but they're still beating me I believe when I was growing up it was talked with the helmet everything was like you know see what you hit us your head to be involved in tackling they're taking that out of football now and it's they don't play tackle now not because I don't want them to because I asked him if you WanNa play my oldest kids Jackson says last year he didn't WanNa play Ooh healthy kids and so I know that I have the the I guess it's not even it's not a burden it's not even responsibility you know the things that I'm involved in hopefully they work out and we're putting a lot of time and effort into those things but you know the ideal world would be to be able to have my kids grow up and thing and all that stuff I just did an interview with Ronnie Lott and talk about toughness he cut his finger off their at halftime one time just to finish playing the game so it's definitely different the way it is today yes effort because they don't they don't your world totally changes because everything revolves around them so just make sure that you take care but that's like my love of my life or my children and you'll be the best that I could be and and hopefully put them in a right situation but he wants to play this upcoming year not this year next year when they play tackle he wants play tackle and I'm GonNa let him play yeah yeah very clear I'm talking about hard hit it kind of a little bit of dizzy you know they give you the salt and he would go back again that's one reason I think we've identified concussions more I mean the second thing is in a position to be successful and just kind of you know make sure that I'm the best that I can be with them on the business side you know I I don't know what that is but there's just so many hidden things I didn't even know and you realize when you have a child it is relentless the amount of energy and there I don't get it yeah we use the video games is a form of currency around here we can pretty much them to do anything else if we dangle that carrot in front make sure that I get to their games and their function much yeah that's good stuff terrell and what about as far as disciplined what type of disciplinary are you as a father is it similar to the style that you grew up with

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