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Ryan Girdusky: The GOP Disenfranchised White College Educated Voters
"I want to begin by asking you to tell us a little bit about what you think happened in the midterms because I know people have sort of been debating this. The last month, you know, what happened, what we can do better next time. And I think that we need to talk about it because that way we can have a better game plan moving forward into 2024 and future elections so that we aren't blindsided again. I think there are a lot of things happen. I don't think there's any singular one lesson to be learned. I think there's multiple lessons. So let's start with the fact that turnout. The media has created this narrative, first of all, there was a quote unquote youthquake that millions of young people angry about abortion came out and voted in masses to elect Democrats. The data so far shows that that didn't happen at all. Didn't happen whatsoever. Republican turnout was actually extremely good in this election. And minority turnout, especially among Democrats, was extremely poor. That's why you're looking at Republicans probably getting over 40% of the Asian vote, somewhere in the high 30s of the Hispanic vote. And the black vote remains basically stagnated about 10%. Where Republicans faltered was among white college educated voters, especially independent voters. They were really disenfranchised with the Republican Party, even though they agree with them on issues like crime and immigration, and they don't approve of Joe Biden's performance in The White House. They were very upset over two big issues one being abortion and the idea of a national abortion ban. And secondly, the narrative over the fact that the 2020 election was so they didn't want to look backwards. They wanted to look forward. And I think that and on top of that, you've had major Republican both candidates and senators like Rick Scott and candidates like masters talking about the idea of privatizing social security, really, really irritated a lot of independent voters. So take us to Arizona, Arizona had a four Republicans win and four Republicans lose. The four who lost ran, it was a Blake Lake of hobby and in that one other guy they ran as a ticket on the 2020 election being stolen. The four who won was Kimberly E Tom Thorne and then two other big Republicans and they won on conservative platform issues. Tom Thorne defeated an incumbent running against CRT running against DEI running against bilingual education. Kimberly Lee Yi is not a moderate Republican. She's very conservative. But their message was looking forward to not backwards and they won. And I think that in states and places where the issues were very quality of life conversations like New York with crime. You serve Republican search and when the election really became about Donald Trump, you saw Republicans lose.
"thorne" Discussed on WJR 760
"Just want to play on your happy with, you can call right now and get a price within two minutes very, very smart use of two minutes. Here's the number you need 8 four four 57 Bible that's 8 four four 57 Bible, 8 four four 57 Bible. Green. The went for it on fourth and one from the 5. Great call. Great decision to do that. The way your defense is playing, now Michigan's often has to go 95 yards, but what was not a great I was not a fan of running a slow development run play. You have to be able to get the ball and pound it down the middle or take a shot if that's what you want to do. I've put read my guy is better than your guy. We're going to go one on one and do that. We didn't do that. So, you know, and coming back out after the half, we weren't able to get anything going offensively. So I think it was just, you know, like I said, a tale of two halves. Michigan state did not come ready to play in the second half. Offensively. The defense did a tremendous job. You're holding the number four ranked to just feel those. You have to score some points offensively. If you want to stay in the game. Offensively too early on in the game. You can see it comes shot themselves on the foot with the penalties early on with three penalties costly penalties in the first drive and it just seemed to be a little disjointed. You said they got on a roll after that. And then it started getting disjointed again and they weren't protecting Thorne weren't opening holes in the run game. I believe only 37 yards on the ground. Yeah, you know, Michigan stole a possession from that first drive. That Michigan state had. No, when the toss deferred to the second half, Michigan state gets to the football and starts to have some
"thorne" Discussed on WJR 760
"Peyton Thorne took a shot. Yeah, he did. It's getting up this little slow there. Trying to make something happen. Jeremiah. Hit him hard. As he let it fly. The one time the Spartans did panic junior hard. Guy just finished the tackle and they called him for roughing the passer. Yeah. Yeah, they did that. That was on van sumer and Ben. Personal foul, extended the drive. Early in the ball game. Washington at the Spartan 24. Handoff to Cameron Davis running to his right. And he picks up two before Ronald Williams makes the tackle. Just underway in the fourth quarter, Spartans on the short end of it 36 to 14 here in Washington. Second down and 8 for the huskies at the MSU 22. Penix junior has Cameron Davis off his right shoulder in the shotgun. Taj Davis and Jalen McMillan set to the right Kyle's Jackson wide side left hand off to Davis and Davis with a little bit of running room is inside the 20 to the Spartan 17. Zion young makes the tackle for the Spartans, Derrick Harmon helped out. Ball is at the 17 yard line. It is third down. And three. Junior in the pistol now with Cameron Davis behind him
Tea Party Targeter Tasked to Create IRS Office Overseeing New Agents
"From PJ media Athena Thorne Obama era Tea Party targeter Appointed to create IRS office overseeing 87,000 new agents Nicole flax worked under Lois learner the Obama administration IRS While the agency infamously targeted conservative political organizations such as the Tea Party By slow walking and suppressing their tax exempt applications You know how we first learned about this mister producer He came over the transmit landmark legal foundation when I was president there Remember that Somebody said look at what they're doing The IRS is sending to us so we immediately filed papers with the inspector general the Treasury Department the commissioner the IRS the secretary treasury And how blow this thing wide open She was also one of 7 executive whose hard drives mysteriously self destructed Preventing house investigators from viewing her emails Now the career IRS executive has been tapped to establish a new centralized office in charge of implementing the Democrats latest tax and spending bill including oversight of the 87,000 new IRS agents that Bill authorizes IRS commissioner Charles Reddick sent an agency wide email on August 19 writing This is a historic time for the IRS We're working to move quickly to begin work on the inflation reduction act signed into law earlier this week He then announced the new department A key part of our efforts will be the creation of a new centralized office for implementation of all IRS related provisions Building up our successes implementing other major legislative bills
Update on the latest sports
"AP AP sports sports I'm I'm Geffen Geffen cooled cooled off off a a trio trio of of new new faces faces highlight highlight the the candidates candidates for for the the pro pro football football hall hall of of fame's fame's class class of of two two thousand thousand twenty twenty two two AP AP correspondent correspondent Ben Ben Thomas Thomas reports reports the the markets markets where where Andre Andre Johnson Johnson and and Devin Devin Hester Hester all all make make the the list list in in their their first first year year of of eligibility eligibility Hester Hester is is a a rare rare finalists finalists who who made made his his mark mark mostly mostly on on special special teams teams perhaps perhaps remembered remembered best best for for opening opening the the two two thousand thousand seven seven Super Super Bowl Bowl with with a a ninety ninety two two yard yard kickoff kickoff return return for for Chicago Chicago touchdown touchdown in in other other NFL NFL news news Steelers Steelers quarterback quarterback Ben Ben Roethlisberger Roethlisberger hinted hinted that that Monday Monday night's night's matchup matchup with with Cleveland Cleveland could could be be his his last last home home game game with with Pittsburgh Pittsburgh looking looking at at the the bigger bigger picture picture I I would would say say that that all all signs signs are are pointing pointing this this this this could could be be it it in in the the NBA NBA the the seventy seventy Sixers Sixers spoiled spoiled Kevin Kevin Durant's Durant's return return by by beating beating them them that's that's one one ten ten to to one one oh oh two two in in Brooklyn Brooklyn here's here's correspondent correspondent Bruce Bruce Morton Morton but but we we took took the the lead lead for for good good with with three three fourteen fourteen to to go go on on an an and and one one from from Joel Joel Embiid Embiid who who finished finished with with a a game game high high thirty thirty four four that that was was good good enough enough to to overcome overcome thirty thirty three three from from Kevin Kevin Durant Durant and and James James harden harden Yanis Yanis identical identical poll poll led led Milwaukee Milwaukee with with thirty thirty three three points points in in the the box box fifth fifth straight straight win win one one thirty thirty six six to to one one eighteen eighteen over over the the magic magic Bradley Bradley Beal Beal had had twenty twenty nine nine points points and and ten ten assists assists in in his his return return from from covert covert protocols protocols in in the the wizard wizard one one ten ten ninety ninety three three win win over over Cleveland Cleveland in in the the NHL NHL Anthony Anthony Duclair Duclair had had two two goals goals and and an an assist assist in in eight eight different different Panthers Panthers scored scored in in Florida's Florida's ninety ninety three three route route of of the the NHL NHL leading leading lightning lightning other other winners winners included included the the blue blue jackets jackets hurricanes hurricanes flames flames islanders islanders sharks sharks and and conducts conducts college college football football bowl bowl action action in in the the peach peach bowl bowl number number ten ten Michigan Michigan state state triumphed triumphed over over number number twelve twelve Pittsburgh Pittsburgh thirty thirty one one to to twenty twenty one one behind behind Payton Payton Thorne's Thorne's three three hundred hundred fifty fifty four four passing passing yards yards and and three three touchdowns touchdowns we we were were able able to to string string some some stuff stuff together together and and you you know know take take advantage advantage of of the the there there is is a a we we thought thought we we were were gonna gonna be be able able to to in in the the music music city city bowl bowl Mitchell Mitchell Finneran Finneran thirty thirty nine nine yard yard field field goal goal lifted lifted Purdue Purdue over over Tennessee Tennessee in in a a forty forty eight eight forty forty five five overtime overtime thriller thriller South South Carolina Carolina defeated defeated North North Carolina Carolina thirty thirty eight eight to to twenty twenty one one in in the the mail mail bowl bowl in in Wisconsin Wisconsin beat beat Arizona Arizona state state twenty twenty to to thirteen thirteen in in the the Las Las Vegas Vegas bowl bowl given given Coolbaugh Coolbaugh AP AP sports sports
Thorne leads No. 11 Spartans past No. 13 Pitt in Peach Bowl
"Payton Payton Thorne Thorne threw threw for for three three touchdowns touchdowns to to Jayden Jayden reed reed as as Michigan Michigan state state defeated defeated the the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh thirty thirty one one twenty twenty one one on on the the chick chick fillet fillet peach peach Paul Paul thorn thorn was was twenty twenty nine nine of of fifty fifty for for three three hundred hundred and and fifty fifty four four yards yards read read caught caught six six passes passes for for eighty eighty yards yards thorn thorn said said it it took took awhile awhile but but the the passing passing game game finally finally came came alive alive S. S. game game and and obviously obviously you you know know we we weren't weren't really really in in them them for for a a lot lot of of the the game game but but in in the the fourth fourth quarter quarter you you know know we we were were able able to to to to string string some some stuff stuff together together and and you you know know take take advantage advantage of of the the there there is is a a we we thought thought we we were were gonna gonna be be able able to to about about third third string string quarterback quarterback David David bevel bevel after after starter starter Kenny Kenny Pickett Pickett opted opted out out of of the the game game and and Nick Nick Patti Patti was was injured injured the the Spartans Spartans trailed trailed most most of of the the game game but but they they exploded exploded for for twenty twenty one one fourth fourth quarter quarter points points to to win win it it going going away away Gary Gary McPhillips McPhillips Atlanta Atlanta
Thorne, Walker help No. 8 Michigan State beat Maryland 40-21
"C. F. P. number seven Michigan state state in the big ten title race by thumping Maryland forty twenty one Payton Thorne threw two of his four touchdown passes to Jayden reed for the night and one Spartans four six and one in the conference Kenneth Walker provided one hundred forty three yards rushing and two scores after entering the game as the nation's leading rusher thorn was twenty two of thirty one for two hundred eighty seven yards including a fifty one yard scoring strike to monitory foster the Spartans close out the regular season conference schedule against Ohio state and Penn state as we try to stay in contention for CFP semifinal berth I'm Dave Ferrie
Britney Spears' Enemies Are Being Deposed
"So the latest information I hear about this Britney Spears conservatorship situation, the remaining things that are left to handle is Jamie spears attorney, the really nasty Vivian thorin. She's like gonna get deposed for the way she was so complacent in the conservatorship arrangement and she called as a witness and she was called as a witness in the civil and criminal trials. My source is also looking in at her even being called as a party, which would be amazing. Daddy spears will be investigated for financial mismanagement and fraud. I said this from day one, I swear I think is gonna get prison time. 'cause we're potentially looking at years of litigation. But Vivian thorin is implicated in this and a lot more. The company she worked for Holland and knight, they're trying to play cool. They're acting like, you know, we were on interested in litigation, like they turned down a job offer of some shit. The truth of the matter is this whole mess with Britney Spears has become a liability to the reputation and integrity of that firm. Vivian Thorne showed himself to be an embarrassment and a failure. She lost. She was schooled by Britney's attorney Matthew rosengart. She was schooled in court. A senior partner at a firm like Holland and has to know better. Her career may well be over. I mean, she's going to be in court soon and not as an attorney. The question is, once she's there, who will she throw under the bus? Will it be Jamie spears? Will it be an older attorney, Sam ingham? Will it be black box security? Will it even be judge penny? A lot of a lot of things can happen there. But all the players in the conservatorship, they're lowering up Britney is pissed, she doesn't want to build any bridges, especially with her family. Daddy spears, like I said, I believe it will go to prison if he doesn't, I will lose all faith in the legal system and so will my friend, my source, who's in the legal system because the evidence he says is stacked to the ceiling against
No. 10 Spartans stay perfect with 20-15 win at Indiana
"Michigan state scored a pair of touchdowns off Indiana turnovers en route to a twenty to fifteen win the seven oh Spartans were out rushed and I'll pass by the Hoosiers but managed to win the game despite just a hundred twenty six passing yards by quarterback Payton Thorne Spartan running back Kenneth Walker remains the nation's top rusher after finishing with eighty four yards the loss drops Indiana to two and four and in three in the big ten Tom McCabe Bloomington Indiana
Nailor catches 3 TDs, No. 11 Michigan State tops Rutgers
"Receiver Jaylen Naylor caught three touchdown pass to repel the number eleven ranked Michigan state Spartans past records on the road by the final score thirty one to thirteen neither had five grabs for two hundred twenty one yards including remarkable scoring plays of sixty three sixty three and sixty five yards from Spartan quarterback Payton Thorne who threw for three hundred thirty nine yards on the day trying to dispose of plays and everything in those results today painting found me a few of them and and then maybe easier you know he told me to so so it's nice to make it easier to quit a very easy piece of cake you know the definition is to close off and I started running back Kenneth Walker twenty nine terrace for two or three three yards including a school record ninety four yard touchdown run Mike Moriarty Piscataway New Jersey
Inside Britney Spears' Conservatorship Ending
"The showdown hearing that decided daddy spears was going to be suspended from being conservative and be terminated of the conservatorship, they thought they had a noble plan, but they didn't. Because what I'm going to tell you now is actual verbiage from the hearing that no one has, but me. And Vivian Thorne, Jamie's attorney kicked off the day with the argument that the petition to terminate the conservatorship is on top priority and should happen today. It would be convenient for the court and no temporary conservatives of the estate or personal need to be appointed. All parties should come together today and reach a mandatory settlement in private arbitration to terminate the conservatorship. See, Vivian wants this conservatorship to end on their terms. They want to reach an agreement which will grant daddy spears immunity from criminal charges and I'll have to pay them all the fees. They are requesting what you're in excess of $2 million. Britney's attorney responded by saying, look, we filed on July 26th for the suspension and the rule of Jamie and as soon as he filed this, Jamie quickly filed a petition to terminate. The reason they did this so quickly is because he wants to avoid being deposed under oath. And avoid the requirement to turn over all his files, which is records and communications to the new temporary conservator and that includes emails, text messages, and letters,
"thorne" Discussed on Uncle Erich Presents™ - Classic Radio Shows, Crime, Suspense, Murder Mysteries
"And now late that night at the conroy music school. We see judy smith. Young niece going into the alley through the back door up. The dimly lit staircase. She opens the door to the reception. Romance gasps. Bob seem judy. Oh right. I don't feel so chipper myself. What on earth are you doing here judy. It's very strange. I got a telegram. I see what do you mean bob. I got a telegram to my telegram. Says dead women tell tales. If you wanna learn something to your interest be at the conroy music. School at eleven tonight. That's exactly what mine says. I don't know but let's get back out of a light blue devil julie. Evelyn is judy. I can see judy lou and bob seymour to. What's going on. Hold on conroy. Did you and your wife. Evelyn got a telegram to be here at eleven o'clock tonight bob. Judy and i got telegrams to know. Hey l. hayatullah gang's all here evelyn. This is serious telling me. I'm lee wait a minute. We've got to find out what this is. all about. He'll find out low and tell me. Oh your horses. We're all in this together. Listen bob seymour. I know when to clear out. Look look at the time i'm judy. It's eleven o'clock. that's the hour and the telegrams. I'm leaving right now. listen hello. Everybody risen from the dance. Don't you think i'm a healthy car. Mega mega go up. Evelyn conrad no more dead than you. I don't understand the police. have your body. My body mister conroy. I found another girl who looked enough like me. I got rid of her dressed. Her and my clothes okay. You're alive. Laura what do you want you have nerve bob. What stalling you said us. Those telegrams to meet you here that's right. I have a proposition to make a proposition. Don galen was killed because he found out something about the music school. He just had time to tell me what he learned before he was shot or could on find out about the school. Thank you know. Mister conroy. And i intend to cash in on what are you talking about. I'll put it in. plain english. Drugs are being distributed from the school. I have the proof. And i'm gonna tell the cops unless you're fork over ten thousand dollars. It's not true. thank i'm dead. That's just the way. I planned it and you behave yourself. How just fade away. Like a good little slower. Your man i told you. I had the proof conroy. You ship the drugs inside the musical instruments. You're renting pay some of the jobs that are on the level but others are phoney blinds for shipping dope all over the country to people pretending to be musicians to lie crazy lie. I'm calling the police. I wouldn't do that. The girls crazy by said. Don't call the police. bob. Put down that gun. It over in that corner conroy. With flora youtube misses conroy. You see flora withers is right. You can't yes. Mr and mrs conroy. Drugs are being distributed from the school. They're being distributed by me. And your niece. Judy me your innocent little girl. Oh you and evelyn are so stupid. A child could fool. That's enough julie. They've got a job to finish. What are you going to do. Unfortunately you know too much conroy. And so does your wife. Evelyn and miss flora withers going to kill right. Judy go ahead of us and pick down the stairs into the alley you go first and on the coast is clear. Knock on the door one. Get moving you three and no funny stuff for pool is trigger..
"thorne" Discussed on Uncle Erich Presents™ - Classic Radio Shows, Crime, Suspense, Murder Mysteries
"Coming from one of these small rooms down the must be this one misses conroy. Yeah i'm inspector thorn of the police sergeant logan. We heard the record. You're playing mrs conroy. I was just amusing myself while waiting for my husband with a dead man on the doorstep why not i may be wrong but it seems an odd time to play torch song that depends inspector phil on this particular one. I'm playing is very appropriate seeing that flora shot man. 'cause he done her wrong. Laura withers misses conroy. Good who else you yourself have been suggested. Misses conroy me. That's absurd is it. bob. Seymour says you got done. Galen on the staff at the music school was deposed idea and for what reason now i see what you're driving..
"thorne" Discussed on Uncle Erich Presents™ - Classic Radio Shows, Crime, Suspense, Murder Mysteries
"Just before the murder. I saw dong with one of the pupils here in the school pupil or would be blues singer floral withers. She was studying here. I noticed them. Because it seemed to me that dawn gave him was sneaking out with flora sneaking down. The back stairs sneak. Jody was back to sergeant. Morgan this is my niece judy. Smith saying it isn't so i saw dawn on flora go out and they weren't sneaking at all inspector thorn. Do you work here at your uncle. Music school miss smith. Yes inspector thorne i do. The secretarial work and i was right in my office. At the head of the backstairs went on galen and flora withers land full. Judy wanted to stay out of this uncle. Because flora shutdown gaylon radio. Say that mister conroy. Why if i must talk because of you judy. It caused me. You stoled on away from flora. Didn't you'll that's a perfectly horrible thing to say but is it true judy. It most certainly is not inspectors on why flora with is and i were friends. I've got is in my head judy. I saw don making up to you. Laura didn't care and even if she did she'd never murder anybody uncle the why she's a nice girl. In that case where is flora. Weather's she was due here for a lesson with me. She hasn't turned up. It looks as if she's taking it on the lam. You've got something there mr conroy. Mugging send out a call to pick up. Laura winters aichi. Who else is in the school nominee to conroy. Only bob seymour. The business manager and my wife evelyn. The dinner hour is always quiet. Inspectors on dr bob seymour on your way. Oh bob seymour was vide- busy getting out. Some instruments that we rent repairs..
"thorne" Discussed on Jesus is the Christ
"I'm going to try to find here so you could actually yeah we can actually ignore case also because it seems like ignore case and we grow into so much again then. Nc and we get to the same the same Drunkard there but actually if you don't ignore because we does not ignore case. I just found out here but there are loads of stuff here. Yeah okay so we're going to trust press. See if i take this car drunkard. Here i saw again here for the drunk the but now i think it must have been before. This is a bit strange that the second occurrence would be in in a book twenty right but it seemed to be the case. Actually see if i take and mark like that but yeah so so it seems like the second car of drunkard is in twenty so it's actually possible then to go on here is in twenty of thorne. I can go on year. You're really like drunken or drunker extortion to eat a glutton drunk and five twenty twenty twenty three year the or shell really like drunk could not that we have forty six now. We entered the new testament railroad drunker. This corinthian. I think yeah. And then he goes back here. So i think i waited too long. No actually goes back to five book five year would that be the only occurrences. I don't believe so. I think this is strange. That there wouldn't be another occurrence in there are no other occurrence. I think you would have to search for drunk instead and you will get no actually It's strange that there are not more drunkard here. I don't understand this forty six. Let's go to forty six. Then go down here and see if there are.
"thorne" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"The morning show with boomer science and in gregg giannotti boomer and geo was also reminded of another great norm. Coenen moment where he was a guest. Alongside courtney thorne smith on. Somebody's late night shows. Keep the guests out there. Do you know this one l. With courtney thorne smith vaguely. I remember seeing it years ago. It is so funny. So he's interviewing courtney thorne smith enormous still there. Because he was the guest. Before courtney thorne. Smith and as the interview is wrapping up. She mentions how she's doing a movie but she can't remember the working title of the movie but carrot top is also in the movie now carrot top in the comedian community is ju- they hate the xetra they can't stand him because he's like a prop comedian. These cheap laughs. They can't stand so the norm. Here's carrot top and he loses his mind he's like i think i know the name of the movies..
"thorne" Discussed on The Troy Farkas Show
"The truck should dot com on my youtube channel. I- reviewing the trade farkas show on apple podcasts. Or to send me a dm comment on an i g post by whatever it is however you wanna show love how however you want to get in contact with me Would welcome that twenty years ago. It's insane that it's been long. I can't believe that. I can remember anything that happened twenty years ago but i do vaguely remember nine eleven. Two thousand one i will. I will vaguely remember it for the rest of my life until the day i die i will continue to remember it every year into remember it throughout the year I often do think about nine. Eleven and the tragedy in the brave rian. Everything that happened after that in the twenty years since then and with what's going on in afghanistan raid right now it's absolutely heartbreaking heart breaks for the afghan citizens and for us for knowing how much we put in there and for our troops that were there for so long. What do they think now about. The taliban being back about our efforts seemingly being wasted what do they think about the friends that they lost when they were in afghanistan in the barracks or doing whatever they were doing for all the years. Think about all the dollars that we spent the time the energy that we spent in afghanistan because of nine eleven and then it became a different mission to try to establish government in democracy in the middle east and voting and women's rights. All these insanely great values to have now to see them. All be ripped away by the taliban and i know the taliban claims that there are nice taliban now but who knows if that's actually going to happen. Actions speak louder than words. As i've said repeatedly on the show before so my heart breaks for what's going on in afghanistan for afghan citizens that still they're grateful for the afghan citizens that got to the got to escape and coming to america in various other safe havens around the world. But i know there's so many still left there that per not happy about it and my heart breaks knowing what happened twenty years ago and what happened Just a couple of weeks ago tarp breaking. I'm upset by. I know bunch. You're upset by as you should be. But this is not a political show.
The Murder Case of Yvonne Layne: Searching for the Star Witnesses
"At this point. I've been in touch with david thorne for nearly two years. David has been in prison for twenty two years for allegedly murdering his ex girlfriend yvonne lane on march thirty first nineteen ninety nine since then david has adamantly proclaimed his innocence and the bizarre murder case and conviction has been featured on multiple news tv e programs and so for the past two years. I have been consumed like dwayne poelman. Warned would happen and so i decided to finally enlist the help of professional private investigators. John harden danny wexler and jason baldwin from the west memphis three and his organization proclaimed justice so back on the ground in ohio. We continued our search for chris. Campbell remember john. And danny thought rose and chris were the most key people in this entire investigation chris and his girlfriend rose. Were the star witnesses at trial. Twenty-three-year-old rose an twenty one year old. Chris both testified at trial. They said they saw joe at the carnation mall around closing. They said he told them he was in town for a job and they said that job was to kill a girl. The card joe allegedly wrote his phone number on for. Chris was presented at trial to prove that joe was there with them the native the murder and at this point. We don't really question that they were all there together but what happened while they were there is what we wonder about by trial three months after the murder some details of what they remembered changed from what they'd set in their initial statements and then a bit more change between those statements. The time they took the stand six months after that rose initially said joe was in white pants and a white track jacket by trial. The pants were black. Rose also said that. The knife that joe showed them was definitely not a pocket knife. She said it was an eight inch knife in a sheath by trial it was a pocket knife. We tried to find rose on our first trip because we had many questions about her statement. We wanted to know why it changed and also about something. She told police in her tape statement. Because i'm scared for my life. Because chris campbell for me if i said anything he met me. And that's why i've been scared. His oliver nagai as race. People do things when they're scared. Like sometimes people lie and we wondered. was it possible. She lied
Jamie Spears Will Step Down, but He's Taking Everyone Down With Him
"In a nutshell, what this Jamie spears Britney Spears case, Jamie, as you know, agreed to step down recently. He says he will resign as conservative Britney's estate, but only after a negotiation. He says he'll work with the court and Britney's attorney to prepare for an orderly transmission to a new conservative. My source tells me he's only agreeing to do this because he's been the unremitting target of unjustified attacks. That's what his lawyer, Vivian Thorne said. So we know this is a lie. In the past week, there has been a monument. I should say last week. Last week, there was a monumental shift on Jamie saw it. As soon as the words embezzlement and financial audit were mentioned, Jamie knew he had to step down. But he's not going to go quietly. 95% of this 12 page response written by his attorney, Vivian thorin, a very mean woman. Is a vicious rant. Filled with lies, accusations, and veiled threats. She went absolutely bananas in court, my source on the scene told me, because she doesn't like to lose. Vivian has been the key conservatorship since day one. And the planning as well. She plays dirty. And this response she made is his nasty as it comes. She and Jamie have a lot to lose and you can sense their fear and rage. The language she used is so inflammatory, well, the next hearing is going to be explosive. Vivian takes shots at a lot of parties to this conservatorship, and it's ugly. And because she knows that her client is in big trouble.
Sue Thorne: The Woman Keeping David Thorne's Case for Innocence Alive
"This truly could be the rest of david's life. Because as i mentioned david doesn't have a lawyer anymore and he ran out of money and all of his first appeals and he's had a difficult time finding someone pro bono to take his case and that's been a battle in itself because nobody wants to do anything without money. You know russian. That i've learned the hard way outta sight outta mind but he hasn't lost all hope and that's because he's had sue on his side. Davis dog caja. You'd be here. Sue is david longtime advocate and knows more about the case than anyone. I feel pretty confident saying that. She has sent e every document interview. Transcript audio recording. You name it that. She has available in this case including her own reports. So how is he. David's dog did he have him in prison prison. Kerr way to be part of it because these kind of lifestyle real central so he would just kind of buddy after the guys who had dodged for the dog program so that he can hang out with the dog today. Sue is more than david's advocate. She's also his wife. They got married in two thousand eight and she goes by sue glass thorn now but before she got involved in david's case she was a family friend remember. She worked at the post office and was friends with david grandparent's and she couldn't believe what had happened to david guy. I knew that came into the post office that true hanaway and granddaughter time and you just license guy ever. I thought no. This can't be in her gut. She just believed in his innocence. She didn't know his supposed accomplice. Joe wilkes the young friend who told police. David had hired him to kill yvonne for three hundred dollars so nathan. I can't understand. there's got to be more. And when she started doing her own digging she did find more.
Who Killed Yvonne Layne?
"April first. One thousand nine hundred nine twenty. Six year old of on lane was found with her throat. Slashed dead in her home in alliance. Ohio twenty six year old. Yvonne lane a beautiful vivacious woman rebound in a pool of her own blood. Her throat slashed. While her children's slap she was discovered by her mother who had arrived to take her six year old grandchild to kindergarten of was a mother to five kids. David thorne was the father of one of the children although he and a von. We're not together anymore. The murder of a mother of five in her own home stunt the small town of alliance ohio. David had recently been ordered to pay child support and in his confession. Joe said that he was hired by david thorne to kill von so we didn't have to pay the father of one of the children. The motive child support thorne was ordered to pay to the untrained listener. This seems like a pretty clear cut case someone confessing in a good motive but when you start digging and talking to people and going through documents the more complicated things get and it seems like everyone around. A yvonne had a motive to kill her. I i came across the case on the website injustice anywhere which has since become a staple for my research into lesser known conviction cases for my other podcast unjust unsolved. I covered an episode a week telling the stories of people who believed were wrongfully convicted. David was one of them. One of the incredible things to me about. David's case is that it actually unknown there had been other media coverage before the attack grabbed headlines as police hunt for a killer. Dwayne poelman who you just heard in. The previous clips is an investigative journalist. Who looked into the case for three years and at the center of his investigation. Very serious question. Did the system convict the wrong man. However that was over a decade ago. And there's been no movement since i said in david's episode of unjust unsolved that this case deserves its own long-form investigation nachos twenty minutes or forty minutes. So here we are.
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"Self record to do all of this stuff so in during this whole revolution where all that happened. All the rockstars kind of went. Oh shit you know. This is now the all that stuff was kinda handed to the people and so we're really lucky in that aspect to be living. Yeah we're not selling records the way people sold records before. But that's because there's more artists with the ability to produce their own records. So i actually. I even remember thirty years ago really thinking that that there is a huge upswing to that concept. Because it's going to reward hardworking more than you know the kind of the corporate machine which was more gang. We become more image. But you argue made you more creative and trying to get your name out there like instead of now you kinda know the staple like get on spotify facebook and instagram. A like back then. I mean yeah you have the cd but jeter figure out how to get that cd out there. Also figured out how to get your marketing out how to make that. Stand out from mike. I think the flip flop happen where you had bands that were producing a that. We're going on tour to promote album. And now you've got a albums to promote people coming. And seeing you play. And i and i think that obviously the that's a totally different business model but it's more beneficial to bans are side. And i think that the ultimately it's cyclical because artists for hundreds of years died in obscurity after their death is when people found nearby auto working holy. Shit this is this is. This is amazing stuff and we might we. I really think that there's gonna be a moment of that where we look back in like. I've actually terminated coal in the lab technician for years that there's actually going to be a fad of music that gets uncovered somebody grandpa dies and they go through and find an entire lifetime of work that they could release for years to come back fifteen poems that are solid gold and they've just been archive because they're sitting on a hard drive somewhere. Somebody's hobby you know that. That guy worked his his shitty job until he died and then twenty years after his dad. He's world famous. he's i mean they're putting digital holograms implanted. Get grammy's and shit with joe. Namath digital adequate that allows that to happen movies Real revitalize music tv shows revitalize music music will revitalize music like all. This stuff will come about and just kind of like you said have this cyclical movement life back in the day. You're like wow. That didn't really take off but now it almost seems ahead of its time you know and it's like that's actually taking off now. So the new singles vagabond yes. When did that come out on earth day own. Second that's awesome. Yeah and we have a music video that go on with it sweet. That's out now as out. Find it on youtube son. This all the links. Give us an explanation of vagabond. What he has to you so it is my train hopping song the lifestyle of living a vagabond hopping from downtown Like i was talking about earlier. How we began. Some of our friendship was i. I hopped a gop trees the country and that inspired the sign. That is my that is what inspired this and yes not that restlessness that failing that restlessness have meaning to go not being able to stay in one place for too long and i don't know thinking about this like the blue collar this trying to make a living being enslaved by the false idea. Freedom there's a there's a lot of there's a lot of ideas behind the song and decide means a lot to me. I think he gets lost to which she says. Hopping trains you know. She's not like you know. Like oh my trip to europe and i had a little pass that got me on on traveled abroad that link writing onto the on freight trains. And it's there's there's an amount of risk and sketching us here and uncomfortable. There's rain. I've read a lot of trains across this country. But i was in a seat and she was not and she down and they ended up in florida. And like you know. They stayed with me and i was like. Oh let's you know. I got a nice place. Let's go out to eat. Like was playing all the time down there and we had a bunch of fine. Look like they're her face was like their faces. Were chatting. they wrote across the goddamn country on a freight train. It still don't know if you've ever been in the south but like the sun is enough if you're if you're sitting drinking iced tea on your power it's enough let alone sitting on a metal train going through the south so by the time they got to me. They're they're ashes. Were pretty kick. And then i was like i was like you know what dude i'll just if you want like i'll buy you guys. I think i offered to buy amtrak ticket to get to whatever. Just come on. Get on get in the train. You did it. They're like no was the artist. It was the journey art fence. So i of driving. I was in the keys and i ended up driving to miami like past the amtrak station to just like a the tracks which just like in shithole miami failure. And i'm like okay cole. Good luck how did you know. I felt like where was going underground book. I did not real there. S the thing. Tim tebow life. Okay yeah i was with a friend who's experienced and that's ridden trains his whole life. And then i was also gifted a book has shifted to and yeah i mean you kinda know but all of the wrong list. You could go in the wrong direction. You're part of the month. Yeah i was on a journey. I was i was on a musical artistic journey. I had purpose behind it. I am bringing my ukulele with me. I'm going to ride a train from town to town. That is my means of travel. I'm going to write music and play music. And every time. I go and i did and it was cruising it was about the are in this world that we don't think about these people. This is a lifestyle their lifestyle there has been for. jenner goes back as long as trains. Go don's it says an an and it's like is this forgotten thing but it's still happening in you meet you meet really amazing..
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"Least for that kind of stuff and people are just so happy to be like well. I'll give you a fifty dollars in a cheeseburger you'll give captured. I think of how many dangerous were especially a young hungry musician. Like tool showered us all about donating some time to a cause and being part of a community and doing something. I am about that. Just everything situational gut. Though i think when you're taking taken advantage of innocent situation like you know kind of what you're saying like why am i paying you if you're doing it for your fun and you're like well i'm also doing it for a living you know. And there's a lot of people out there that also do what they love and do their job to. If i like the bar owner and i like the place and i've got some time and i like playing out and there's a labor of love there. I'll go and play somewhere for super cheap if it's if it's apropos but if i show up to a place and you know and they're paying me one hundred dollars and i was in the restaurant industry. I know they brought in iran that night. It's like come on. You know. I'm not maybe it right. Yeah different venues with different amounts of appreciation for sure. I've heard yet by owner to even like some owners. Don't appreciate you know the art or having the are in their venue or building compared to some owners and and and that's another huge part of the pirate. There is people sit there and go. Oh well you're making this wage for showing up playing barefooted on my stage and enjoying yourself and it's like well yeah but you know. I'm also practicing. I'm right look at all and i'm dealing with your and many of people who already drunk by master. I've had years where. I've spent a couple hundred hours a year just chasing down my money. A thing is people see you for two hours. Think they're paying you for that to our right. And then they're like us in the mail. And i go down there the phone call. I gotta do it twice in a week and spent four hours this week on your down for years to make that two hours. The hours the money. I made it man. Yeah yeah and i think a lot of people find it is but i mean there's also silver lining to of you are doing what you love. You know. you're not behind a fryer you in some job that you just loathe getting up in the morning and doing and you're trying to win a rounding up totally jobs should be like. Why is that. Even your judges should be doing what should be your job. You love working with kids making their lives. Better teaching them. And you're a teacher and you're doing what you love absolutely should be getting paid. Everybody should be doing what they love. I don't think that's a good excuse. Like oh you know. Everybody should be passionate about what they're doing but to be fair. I have met some who love taking advantage musician. Bela taking on a hippie. You have that passion on what you wanna do. But then like. I don't know my ten years of playing music or ten plus years you know at the end of every year looking at how much money i've made in like You on other things in life like a house or family and like things that cost a lot of money. It's been like this thing in the back of my head going back and forth like i could find a job. That sucks kind of that. I don't want to do. But i dropped your happiness level a little bit but afford other things that i would also make me happy. Yeah so it's like the. It's all like checks and balances much. Mafia life is material. How much exactly. I think a lot of times know musicians kind of their own worst enemy with that too though. Like if you if you wanted to start a business selling ice cream you'd stop the by shopping right a menu and come up with a business plan and you know you did have to have some upfront investment. And you know you'd have to structure out your first year in your second year. You know if you're going to open a place like that. The first year is probably seventy eighty ninety hour weeks if you actually did that shit with a band. You're probably going to see a return on investment that similar to any you know startup blue-collar business you know and i think that that's one of the things that musicians skip the cart before the horse because they they romanticize it in this way of like wells and doing what i love and i'm just going to get there on how it is there. I hear that. Like if i'm just good enough someone else with all of that work in resources already done is gonna come along and see me and just hand this thing to me and i think it creates this idea that you're either the pop star. Who made it bolt of lightning or your the starving artist. And i think that there's a huge area in between that his blue boiler you could make fifty to one hundred thousand dollars a year and probably eventually have a mortgage and a house in a family. But if you're not. I mean you're probably not doing it on five hours a week. You know what i mean. And that's what a lot of people put into their to. Their music is five five six hours a week and so it is a hobby And then there's nothing wrong with being a hobby. That's also job to somewhere on a weekend or yeah. Yeah if you're putting in five hours a week to be playing fifty dollar gigs. I'm right here in your mouth and the hour a night a practice or two hours a week. Let's say it adds up for sure. Yeah i think putting all that stuff in perspective is really key to kind of you know being successful as a musician it is and it's also kind of like i. Kind of the vein. You're going down of leg. It's also a challenge to value yourself as you get better as you can say. Hey cole i like your venue. But i think i'm worth one hundred fifty dollars instead of one hundred dollars or something you know what i mean really asking for what you're worth instead of saying dropping it well. At least i'll get the exposure no wins when that's enough. No when you have gotten that enough and you can do your own hosur exact. And i think it all. It's all the time. Yeah we've done that. We've out underbid us when we're like that was not worth our time complete but then but then we know like saying no to that one. That's situation now. Or i know to be charged a little more no. Yeah exactly that idea of blue blue-collar success oh musicians that's a relatively new thing to thirty years ago you didn't really have. You can put forty hours a week until your music but it was pretty much just writing and practicing man. You know because you didn't have the the tools to self market to produce to.
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"Happened is is is. We could in theory of gone forward with a pretty robust schedule for the summer. The rest of the year. Because i think things are opening up The promises if you really wanted to have a robust schedule for the summer you needed just book six months ago and if you remember where we were six months ago. Maybe there's nobody was newly so. I think what's happening. And i think that's why there's more of these solo gigs. I think what's happening in the climate in this industry. Right now is there's a lot of last minute shit getting thrown together you know and i'm getting calls just people going. Hey we decided to start music. Can you play. You know too much from now and these are places that i usually book for months. Our interests you know. I think that that's harder. That's easier for solo act than it is for. You know like megan that needs to put together getting their draw. Come out oh yeah you know and so it's hard i mean everything's going to be harder with a seven piece band. It just always is. And so i think twenty twenty one for for this level of in this country's just gonna be kind of touching go and i think next year is going to be monsters being i think in december of this year we're going to be able to sit down and go what's twenty twenty two look like let's do this and then i think actually pay reciprocal to that and and whereas this year if you call people in december last year they'd be like i'll even know right here. If you know this this town could be on fire by like knows. We've seen that a lot too because we dj weddings and people now are like. Oh we can do weddings so we get emails weekly. That's like this cat. I can't believe next year before already. You're exactly yeah of course. Sounds like a good business to get into if you look at the big on a house shortly pay. If you look nationally touring acts. You know that already had a full tour last year a lot of them are just you know they arguing that last night i saw what he's going to see dave matthews band or whatever you know in a month and they just they just announced it could go. We're okay we're doing on the books the joined. We're actually. I've seen a lot show. And saleh make that major commitment or a lot. Say we're waiting 'til next year and twenty two and it's kind of like a fifty fifty driving third. They're deciding now or like you said let's go for it venues in town like the stuff. We rely on to draw two three four hundred people. That's that's gonna again. You couldn't have booked at six months. Just done now. What about the l. then you. That isn't that that's not even like cabbage. I drove by there one day. It was still like drywall. Like there's no painter year ago half ago. yeah. We have zombie apocalypse. Mild a mild one. It was a lot of things. Went under you. Guys do many like at home concerts. I hear a lot of people around here. Sometimes do like private like a couple of weeks. When would you say your face is. I have a really strange like my business. Model doesn't fit into that at all. It really just doesn't i. I kind of felt like a challenge sitting on the internet. Like with my van. Mo- number with we're doing a livestream on stay for a in music box in palo can. Oh yeah how long do those last hour to forty five minutes to an hour. Yeah couple with math already. It's cool little set up. You guys do like a whole like thing. Donation thing or else kind of like to go to play to play. It's i don't know it'd be nice to have some footage of the new light up. The korean war brady writes things kind of double edged sword right like you could go out and squeeze fifty bucks out of that night but like i really don't wanna see the industry go that way. Yeah what i mean like. I don't want. I think there's less of a stigma now than there was before the pandemic like before when i saw like the i just seen greedy. It just seemed weird to me and now it just seems like another way to help supporting artists and i think they raced down getting paid another. You know what people who are going to go. Well if you're gonna livestream from my are why would i pay you. Yeah why would you show up that kind of thing. And i i do worry about those things coming in. Because there is a of that that stigma in our industry where people go. Well if you're making money off this some other way why are we paying that which is just like free advertising. Yeah totally ass backwards. It's that it's that exposure thing right but wouldn't you that. Close your bar though to like down here like we're live like i mean. That's kind of our our stigma to and we're like we're live on our app. Yeah that's cool but oh you wanna be down here because we kinda wanna give you that fomo of like this where you wanna be right now. I listen to you get your ass down and have a drink with us of art is real constantly has to be explained to people undervalue. Yeah a little here. More than most places too. I feel like our gets undervalued. And i don't know if you guys can maybe test to this. Maybe i mean there's a lot of places here there's an issue of i feel like some people take less than they actually deserve and i feel like that kind of a little bit because like why would i pay you guys. Get these ask for this and i think that's kind of my point and that's the that's the sandwich the kind of of the same. I think people see that as the same thing and they they see that as like you know because if you're if you're I don't know just some blue collar guy who whose job is down. Because the corona you can't go on and you know livestream your job livestream your your fixed wing job you know and so like i. I think there's resentment that comes with artists like the people towards. I experienced it a lot out there where people are just like. You're doing what you love. Why the hell am i paying you and is like you know like constant devaluing and things you know that but on the side of that. Good luck getting plummer to your house on on a friday night for four hours exactly for thirty five dollars or whatever the hell you know especially if you're getting a team of plumbers seven of them at your house you're going to pay.
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"You dan. Do you have side projects to like the bozeman symphony nice and the nutcracker opera sometimes and ballet do dancing who's not yet bracket. But how do you like being in the symphony breath. I like it. I like it. We're we're kind of because of the whole you know. Situation conductor dr. Yeah yeah with the pandemic and everything. Everything's kind of reduced. Yeah didn't they just play recently for the first time since october or something. Well we've been doing some some livestream stuff. Yeah okay but they just had the last seasonal concert and starting summer series. Yeah what's the dedication to that like in terms of practicing and on and off on your own. Yeah it's it's you know. Show up kind of knowing knowing your part kind of not. I mean it's it's ideal if you already know if it's like performance ready yeah and then the conductor can can mold stuff together enough but yeah okay yeah. It's a lot of preparation. I try to be prepared as much as possible. But how long have you been in the symphony. maybe around. i wonder if it's around twenty seasons. Yeah yeah i also moved moved to bozeman and ninety four so you've seen some change in shortly thereafter our is playing the symphony and the got away for a few years. Roughly guesstimate crazy. If you're you man that's awesome team saying show up project funny moved here like oh seven around nine. Started a project called cure for the common. That i did mostly just that for eight years while going through college and whatnot. I think we took a class together. One time you vaguely familiar. Liberal arts was like in lots of different music tax. I think we collaborated into music. Class chair my business or something. Yeah i'm sure we've crossed paths. Yeah that's awesome okay. So cure for the common still a thing or is not that kind of fell apart. We were trying to get into like the nationally touring circuit like light designer. Merchandise a name ourselves that we were building one by one. The wheels fell off colon. I really started to finding like dig in our interested like when that was kind of going down. And then you coal essentially. We're plan together like she'd go travel for however many months and i'd be busy on the road and then we'd meet up for couple of weeks and you know relearn the songs that we kind of forgot. Play one or two gigs and go back to our lives. So yeah slips and honesty when we are playing like the band before like dan included was part of a group called perma funk so it was interesting because our old percussionist and guitarist and drummer dan. We're all the same band that was playing coal for a minute. So i'm still playing with those guys. We took like a year during the pandemic me too. I've sat with you guys. Dad probably it. Probably the this town brings nine gum cannery district. The wild ride the brewery six Yes i remember now right yes yes yes. I was just in time for a couple of things that you just shut up and threw down fun and then Yeah the last project been playing with the last couple years as moth which is an acronym of the hoffbrau actually fun. Same joke loop plans berg. A couple of guys. I've seen moth played before you breakfast. Yeah we'll like everybody. I played with now is ten years older than pink. Floyd people to young. And that's what. I need right like this. What's the crew at the half. That was doing open mic thing. And now they're like you know they all stemmed out and had your. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah and i'm really excited about this lineup. I feel like abs kid. Finding come together in nyc like dan chemistry combined with our old sax player who just came back from going to school in berkeley for three years. You know we have that familiarity and then berkeley. Am boston California okay so And then yet just as you know just going up with the percussionist and drummer and having like that rhythm section of thing for me is awesome because it makes my life easier. Yeah and there's all these really talented people. Guess with all you guys together. I mean now that you kind of have found your groove a little bit. It sounds like what you're sorry for the pun. What's your guys is like. What's your number one challenge. I guess you guys are facing right now and you feel is kind of getting jewel together. I guess that's yeah schedule. I think it's just a. We're working on her second album right now. We're also just just trying to get verse. Wellness twenty eight to donate experts. And we're working on our second one now. I think our biggest challenges will just trying to get gigs as a full band. I'm able to get their solo duet. We've got a couple of things lined up this summer but music has been the last thing to come back right so that has been. Our biggest challenge is trying to come back and playing gigs as a full band. But we've had things to focus on thankfully end. Yeah just finding the time to record here at work on that. And do you feel like there's like a sense. It's kind of coming back. Like i'm seeing more live events bermuda scheduled and things like that i think. Are you guys starting to see like more supply than demand of live shows right now or is it stifles. It's actually what do you think i think. Actually what's.
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"A girl's attention across fire now. I said all of juice. Yes yes you what did you say. I'm not. I'm jess adkins stuck. The what do i do do guitar player. I'm the new guy. The new guy. Is it true that the man from florida is a thing when you google is. There's a some characteristics it's actually. It's more prevalent than you. Now something daily if you live their daily daily is probably like the news is flooded young man just a man which is funny because down there like if you go down there. They're all like oh you're montana. You guys right cowboys. Yeah counting union electrician trinity and their and their way off because here and people were like. Oh florida i hear you guys like live in the rafters at walmart like yeah. You're exactly right so i moved here. I'm dan would dan. What would yeah. What's your favorite color. You're just escaped me. Maybe like aquamarine aloe. Mary wasn't cool. Superhero name to and marine drummers drummers through how many how many thorns are in colon the thorns there are seven of us holy cow missing. Adam burke is seven recently. Because i thought i read six somewhere. There are seven that was last week. I'm next month. Formed around and we create another. Yeah so matt pal palm on the saxophone. Ice affection at a alex pat on the drums and the annenberg on auxiliary percussion sweet. You guys. I've been playing with since the early nineties really no joke. I've known since i was a kid i was hanging out with alex fourth green. So did you know you were joining this. That they were part of it. Okay that's awesome all right so that was twenty sixteen kind of i mean obviously barring you kind of all when you guys met and kind of formulated the idea twenty sixteen we actually went through. Some tribulations is all bands. Yeah i we lost members so for the last couple of years have been the last couple of years of growing pains and grind pain head of bringing new people in who necessarily didn't stick around so the biggest challenge is getting him to stay or like mostly just like i don't know yeah just like the songs easy but like a lot of stylistically. Yes so this again in his proficiency at his instrument made it easier but like a lot of times. We're spending months bringing each new person brought into the band up to speed on the old song. So we're just sitting there kind of like along that turnover for you must be hard. Because you're trying to backtrack to retrain them august and send him writing new music getting the new person up to speed just good and i've also been writing all this stuff out for you guys to so when the fourth guitar player comes along and you can just handle favor so you the only music now he does to you to do your I don't necessarily write it out. I just we all learned by lot. Gotcha don't have as much music theory knowledge. Noggin is these to here. What about you call. Do you write news writer. I was trained on the piano. And i did learn how to write music. I don't do that with my song. South very out of practice with that. I'm sure i could relearn it. But yet no i just write the structure of the songs and and then we everybody frights there on parts those. Yeah that's cool. It's a fun process. Is everybody in bozeman there seven. They're just not in your living room. Fair fair yeah. It's too early coming you. Does it make one. Song is all seven colliding or is it to of you be like here. It is and then it was picked up. I i usually write the song. I have a basic structure of the melody and the song and the lyrics announcing it. And that i bring the song to the band and then we work out sin certain parts and working on trying to get it more like maybe like jazz colin i. We'll get together around the skeleton so we can have something. That dan and matt the horn players can write a piece too. But we haven't had a lot of time to really like bright new musically kill was on. We've gotten this final formation together. We finally complete. We're we're completing field challenge to write when you have a large band is an especially if it's changing personnel here and there and things like that Which ten which tends to be a phenomenon that you're experiencing when it's kind of an artist surrounded by bama's to ban that kind of formed because it's cold. It's cold fan. So i think you know every every songwriting force whether it's single order do or or a ban has to kind of come across and figure out its process and streamline that process and i think we're kind of in the process of figuring out so you feel like cheese kind of where the the original ideas have come from right now and you guys take the lyrics or whatever you right and then kind of elaborate on that per se warm. It's banned. yeah that's kind of the idea. I mean we all. I mean i have my own projects i you know. He's got other projects. We all have other stuff. We do right and i write a ton of original music for not for this band. That's not my man on the side. I just i have. I mean this would have been doing for a living for a long time. And i've got my own albums side projects you have well. Currently i just moved back at the right when i moved back. Run virus hit. So it's been there's been a little bit of limbo land mostly because of timing and on top of coronavirus stuff. But i have a ton of original material to you know. And it's just it's nice to have a partition effect. It's kind of one of the things i like. The most about playing in this band is not being in charge of all the opening up with all the content. Like i've been doing just a and other people songs and that's a that's a fun thing. Yeah not seeing. And that's what i'm trying to look for right now. Is i play keyboard back there. I got a guy that he's like. Well you wanna come play key sometime. Let me know i just. I don't wanna think about it because i'm doing this. I got other things going. I just wanna show up and play. Like i just want that our responsibility of creating right now so i was. He'll for twelve years there. I was doing like two hundred. Two hundred fifty shows a year minimum. All carrying everything you know so so i think part of that too. I mean. it's definitely what i love. A part of that is also being able to do. What about.
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"Voices like told me about your life about him and enemies with Peanuts on the plane. How are you guys doing. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for calling the thorns. You guys with warns which one's the storm summa bunch a little pricks living really came. That's where the name came from thorne and coal side. That's good and makes sense now. Did you guys meet though. Also the breakfast are thing. Good morning good morning we all we all met at the hoffbrau probably well. No we met in college jordan nyman college soccer and it kind of started out with just us to duet and then slowly just started playing open mics at the half. And then like you. We all met at the half off. I met you at the half local social thing. Hot bird. Redoing like open mic sir. Yeah open my accent is kind of slowly. I used to be the latest. Like do you wanna sit in on a song and dan but his had his trumpet. When i like you want to sit down on a song and then i was like awesome. Do you want to be my grand. Your thousand sixteen fifteen fifty s hot minute. Go something around. There is a little blurry. It's say when you say twenty fifteen. I'm like oh it's like two years ago definitely say that's why would 'cause i actually met you before that and i just joined the band like six months ago so even though regardless off. Okay yes And i played with him randomly. I i to kind of float around harvey this around guitar player before i did. He is our yes. How's he doing. is he making. There's two of them who qatar player is. What's it's like a womanizer. Yes she's like. Ooh la fine in france for awhile. I actually took my hot trains across the country and stopped in florida. Played a couple of shows house me up and and then i've just been like when you're moving back to bozeman say guitarist. So yeah you each other. But she she. We live on opposite sides of the country. And i was almost a train. Ride away where those the second that tarkwa because after the first one she was like you want to be in the band. And i'm like kinda three thousand miles like remote qatar. It's gonna move back but she was like. Yeah i know. And i was more like five or six okay. So she found similar guy. So did you come back just to be in the band. What's that story. Hello now that. I don't know why i came back. Are you originally from here. I am yeah okay out. Jeez that's why. When i come back i already kind of get thrown into situations with all the musicians because i know everybody so somehow i managed to hold onto knowing everybody. I mean it's a it's a small community but it's a good community a lot of good people willing to tighten it and it's funny you talk about the hoffbrau open mic. Yeah plano's fifteen you know. I was my shadow. Was you know. Yeah yeah that was like everybody's for show. I was telling my first gig there like blake severely underage ch down. Don't get drunk. Don't blow this. You know it's like yeah. Okay whatever okay. Well on even get a night to. You're going to run into somebody there in that kind of tight knit community that. I think that you know you're a part of whether it be. You know a friend whether it be a musician there whether it be kind of like somebody who's been doing that since like the mid nineties that's kind of a huge part of it like i came back to town and like all all the kids that i knew in the ninety s and the early two thousands that we're playing the open my aches and just kind of drifting around playing music. They're all a boseman freaking rockstars. Now every they've all they've all kind of found their their place and now they're like of more of these elder statesman of that whole thing and now there's like there's different kinds of lanes of people that are writing from all that stuff in it all got started in that little kind of local local amateur scene which huge for musicians around here huge absolutely great exposure. To great connections great marketing list and there's moments of brilliance that. I just don't think happened anywhere else. I've seen some amazing acts like my favorite bands. See him in a stadium or something in his band. You wanted to see your whole freaking life. Those are some of my favorite experiences in life but also the other fifty percent of my favorite experiences. Musically are these weird no-name moments that i saw in a local dive. That was just somebody passing through somewhere. I still have that. I remember vividly. That i don't even know the guy that rocks ohio other names that i still remember just being my whole shared. That was good. You know it's definitely a good place to like suck as well as fair come. Why do you say that You know we didn't know all the chords necessarily telling somebody like this is of course the song she's people are more open to i. Guess just letting you say. Experience level said anything from like really talented people to like. First time things and like people. I it was like a good foothold to star salvage. I've noticed that members like doing this kind of thing with people in bozeman montana. I feel that a lot like when you guys come here and just thorough interview. It's very lax and it's very just like oh like i messed up. Let me try one more time. And everybody's just like. Oh yeah you're good for you know what i mean. It's just like everybody's everybody's just you know we know where we're at and we know that it's on that kind of playing field so that's awesome. That as i say we might as well go around the room husbands. Go ahead and say your name david. Color names roden biker. What's your favorite dog breed. Yours always wanted a french bulldog bad ass. I would say that's a pretty high up there and that really your name roy baker it you're are od e. n. b. e. r. So phonetically exactly. I like my name was dr carr thorns little next call so i just put it on face. No it's not kind of helped the band is making. Is it really whole only. Why don't you go by. Call him and we'd have three coal sitting here. This probably goals in the thrones. I'm telling era often cord ru like excuse me came to switch that we could go with cole of thorns and just go with the year. All the same fonts..
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"Got out of that to some degree. Yeah i also think we. I really do think it was in the middle kind of cool. I think it was a darker. Grungy your blues riff to start off with and so that kind of set the mood and so then we just went through some notes and some lyrics and kind of went off the mood of of the guitar and and it just it all fit together really well and yeah and then it was we would sit there and talk about a concept or like the porcelain doll was that kind of represent them behind on it lyrics would come out some more broad image. They're doing like a word cloud kind of deal. And i like that. Let's find brainstorming and talking about different themes and so you obviously did the lyrics first and then you kinda worked on the melody and stuff or it also is actually came. We started we had some words and we started playing around with their voice. Like how do you feel about how that sounds. And we decided that we wanted to seeing to gather at the same time. That was also something very different. Yeah rather than just having oozing ause harmonies or alternating vocals nicely. Fifth one voices of whistle to me. It felt mary when we first started writing. Like this grunge son but also feels like kind of like glass animals on us. Yeah yeah every song you do. I mean you always wanna strive for something unique and something different. Yeah i've always wanted to have a lot of just like little digital. Yes but but that was kind of my entry way. I guess and so there's a couple of things have desires and wants and this tire then. We eventually had the whole song. Then we cannot go needs to bridge. Let me sat there together and wrote a bridge kind of figured. Out the mood of the cornstarch we wanted and added that in and there's no set structure every time he read a song. It's different every single time. It just however it flows from you. It's how that's just how. I don't know it's you say i don't know about you guys but that rarely happens for me that it all comes together at once. They're not song in one sitting by myself to you out like that. So very rare really cool expand. Not only that it came from you. Guys is to ideas coming together You know just fitting so perfectly and right. There's potential for conflict whole time but it but it didn't happen it was it was clouds kinda cool. Do you guys have a favorite part of the song. Favorite line or something. Like that last verse. No it's i think it's after the Gosh it's been a second since. I've listened to the all of it. That's the onions Handle with care and feeling expensive. Why can't they. Expensive short lived affair Handle it's good. Filling expensive short lived affair. Yeah just kind of like the. That is a beautiful thing is the dynamics so would not be one part of the song. It's the dynamics of this on. It starts out very simple guitar very slow. Build for a couple of minutes and then all of a sudden it just kind of hits and so then also even after it hits. They're still build after that so it's a very dynamic song so it's kind of fun and and we were sitting there on road trips and stuff looking at a bunch of inspirational tracks definitely just kind of wanted. This laid back head. Grunge that you just kind of bop to but nothing in your face and so we you're listening. Toss off a bunch of songs. And so you know you try and come close to that or get your version of it. But then it still just evolves around it lasted for meets the dynamics. Yeah there's the shadows align what what does it say. What are we say before that. Just talking about like your shadow. South in being in alignment..
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"Four years ago blunderbuss. Okay this little public debate kind of thing. I played music for a buddy that asks me that back up and co's playing some solo stuff for that event and then are passive just crossed through music over the four years but it's always been pretty surface level. That's just like friendship july. We actually played a show at the filling station together so action learned to sign a letter first time performing actually performing together. Yeah yeah but we've shared the stage before. They played a coupla shots together before selena song together and sang together. What was i do. Remember that song corby ten you from that corby. Your resolution came together for that one nice And started dating truly after refunds. Not the music of an who made the first move to ask you. But i have to ask you that question. Oh yes was it. I don't know you asked me to hang out. I think fifty percent efforts choice. She gave a little bit. I gave a little bit events. This is pretty cool. Thirty the covered with an all that bad. I got this guy out of. Hey that's good. Yeah hazard challenges with writing at all like i mean. That's what's stupid. There's been none like even my first time co writing and lyrics lear personalized to me and you feel like she kinda helps you with your writing or helps you kind of get your block away. You know we just drove out to billings every weekend for some music music kind of talking about this very thing but i think something. I've been trying to get over in my own. Writing is i'm so analytical and so concerned with making a metaphor coal and complicated that actually just the nature of co writing. I think it would be with whoever it was just automatically gives me a little bit of a chance to step back and and to just let go of that control which has been a really cool thing. Because i've been trying to do that. And then co writing immediately. Kinda makes you do that. But then on top of that We had a vision. I think i had like we both just kind of had. Some one liners in our phone or something. It's just kind of started pulling on and then we eventually found a theme and then it all just came in one night and a few drinks and it was fun was a really fun process with little to no difficulties. I mean yeah. There's absolutely like i kind of feel like this. And she kind of feels like this but within ten minutes of talking through it. We've found the perfect but you write with a band all the time. I i do the writing or you do okay. So it's kind of like coal thorns songs that you write the band performance. So what was it like working with him. On writing i loved it i had written. I had done one other will. Actually maybe two. Others co written songs Only one other. That's actually recorded out there in the world but it was different because it was more intimate. I guess just because we're connected in that way so it's very different in that way I learned a lot about my own style and he challenged me to find a different voice. Which i really. I really appreciate it that finding a new voice. That was fun her voice. We've actually wanna start on the offbeat because there were more kind of reggae influence and the song has a little more bluesy kind of grunge to it. I guess so as much more metric. And that was really fun thing. Where i i was like no then i realized her own way super cool and but we were sitting there and just kind of like we had this high note this bill we wanted and then just kinda messing with each other's voices like do you think you could. Do you think i could. Growling was an exploration outside of just one person sitting in the room buying themselves thinking about your own capabilities kind of hard to just sit there and think outside of your capabilities to write us on but having someone else there makes much more. Do you think you could do this. And then all of a sudden you give it a go and it works out or doesn't as a sense of surrendering to to kind of touching back to what you were talking about letting go of having all the control and direction over it. Which is what i also do as well with my own songwriting. So it's fun kind of surrendering a little bit to each other. To each person had their or feedback on how they wanted the song to go together. It was surprising it was surprising how easy it was. That's good yeah. Yeah one night. One nine guitar thing that i was on for a longtime but not all of it. We still sat there in route the rest of the guitar and bass and drums kind came later but the basic in our milky vocal melody all night. What's terms what's the broads man of porcelain to me it's fragility i guess being fragile. Which is kind of funny to be in a new exciting in a relationship and then pretty comes off as dark. But i also have to say. We're digging deep into notes. From longtime ago where lyrics and things might have not been as up to the times. I guess align handle with care. Yeah that's kind of course is handle with care. And so this idea of porcelain were fragile people and then we have this image that we have but then there's a lot more depth and kind of like thinking about dolls and just how they hollow inside and the darkness inside but also how beautiful they're beautiful but also maybe there is more to the artistry of just a doll line beautiful hunt. Yeah beautiful haunt. That's a good mood. Said is that one line is the. Yeah the beautiful darkness league sent and it kind of i guess kind of what am i. Trying to say. Kind of replicates. What just i mean what. We've all come through to in a in a way to this darkness on finding some beautiful within two. You guys found some in each other in the dark time to in kind of convey that through the song. Well absolutely. I would like to think that any sad song i would write in. I don't wanna speak for gold. But i would imagine our mentalities similar on this but any sense of sorrow always has some hope to it. I write a lot of more sad tunes. But they're really just meant to be introspective. Not depressing and hopeless overlying again those dark times. Yeah totally all. The song sounds very meta metaphorical to me. Said that's how you always right but you. She.
"thorne" Discussed on The Auideo Show
"I hope it's crazy. Yeah thanks for coming on guys absolutely. Have you both exciting. Yeah man yeah. I've been a full year. That's crazy weird like to the month kind of thing almost down to the month because i think it was like really mar trait well. We launched february twentieth. Yeah was first day of idaho radio. You came in the next week right so it was the last week in. February is crazy. That's crazy collander. Iag stuff today. Yeah it's like. Oh jake's i ever post on look at you still want to come on back. Well yeah you. There's been stepping it up. I love those weekly updates. And i've been seeing your name. Get out more and some some guerrilla marketing is all takes is what are you going up to man in this whole year of yeah craziness. It's been crazy over the side. My german a huge brain injury fell to the floor of an airbnb. So what serious. That's been crazy. So go side. I that you had online. What's his name. Marcus smart super nice kid. Yeah so he spent about eight months in salt lake after getting life flighted down there and had like spinal fluid linking fractured skull shouted shoulder. Got messed up really messed up. So he's me just last week just last week after eight months just last week journalism. Which crazy right didn't miss a beat. Which is more nets. So that was crazy. I've been recording an album. Though so i'm eight out of ten songs in been waiting on the earth and then i started up at advanced materials company of just starting that. I've got a little bit when about a year ago. You it's been about a year and a half now so that was super fun. We're short on money now. So now i'm just doing construction in framing gigs. Are starting book backup. So they're just been for that album. Is that crazy well. Luckily i'm home recording. So i like that. Because then i can spend a few equipment always mind and i'm learning latin expensive. Imagine a master this one. That's twelve hundred bucks right there and the cd printing and all that takes thousand or so but a couple grand and you got a really good product hours a night. Learn how to master or learning how to do it on your own. Save yourself a ton of money. I'm a nerd about if you like it. It's not gonna be a hard thing to learn about yeah. Diy steph and then like you can like hire yourself out after that exactly stuff. Yeah so like porcelain to song. We're gonna talk about tonight. I mean that was song colon. I i had a guitar riff. I've been sitting on for probably about eight months. And then i just stuck on it then call nice down wrote in a night and then to probably two months on the edges recorded it up in the room reduced it mixed mixed it and then we sent it off to gyn. La get mastered. That was a fun process to drum basing go right and then mix and everything to lose and how long was that overall. Probably two months. We took our time with it. Learned a lot with it. Which i'm happy that that single came out or we worked on that single before. I really got into this album too because that allowed me to learn so much in that single and just really sit there and tweak and play around and learned a lot and the master guy. She sent me to was super nice of him. I mean he told him. I've never worked professionally with anyone so if you get the song and things are not what you expect them to kind of not say that so give me a call and he was on aim in here the four things you're limited on between unlimited appear compression right around two and he was super educational Really cool to. I even learned a lot a lot there too. So he told you y basically and all that good yes value out of porcelain was a huge learning experience for the digital things for myself very cool. Which hopefully will change the album's them. What about you. Cole. how is your ear kovin. Oh well this guy has just been in the last few weeks i've been staying pretty productive I recorded a few songs with my project on. And then i also made my first music video. This summer is on. So that's always. It's a good time to sit down and focus on writing stressful reflecting no beer. It's kind of. It was my my way out of auburn crazy. Morale ludo crews and then. Yeah it was fun being able to start collaborating checkup. Where did you make that here. Your video Yeah a in Can you can sorry. Canyon ferry Very lake sorry about very late. Grew up in the bridges and then out a couple of different destinations virginia city wide. You pick those spots just because you've been there yeah. I'm just pacific. This story was trying to tell it was on a song called vagabonds. That is my train hopping song. I love that word and jen combined. Yeah so just trying to capture the imagery of the trains travelling like style. And then yeah. I feel like we learned a lot together. Writings his first co writing like we learn to latin from each other in different styles And so that's been really fun process to doing something completely different for fat. We've neither one of us have done. So how did you guys get together. So we met.
Major League Baseball officially elevates Negro Leagues to 'Major League' status
"It took decades to right a wrong But Major league Baseball will now update its official records to include the stats of thousands of players who were part of the Negro Leagues. NPR's Tom Goldman reports on this watershed moment in sports. The announcement comes during the 1/100 anniversary year of the start of the Negro leagues. It confirms what many already knew. The approximately 3400 players kept out of the segregated majors were, in fact, major league caliber ballplayers in 1969, an all white MLB committee gave major league status to six previous baseball leagues without considering the Negro leagues. Baseball now says that omission was clearly an error, MLB's official historian John Thorne, told the sports website. The ringer quote. It's both imperative and satisfying to see MLB admit to a mistake and try to write it. MLB now will launch a review of how to incorporate Negro League players statistics into the official. Major league record. Books. Tom Goldman NPR
The Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA) Civil War
"For those who might not have looked at twitter in the last forty eight hours. This all started when mouse sports and astrology decided to boycott their match for a handful of hours over the weekend or not even over the weekend. Was it tuesday. Tuesday tuesday yesterday. Was that just yesterday was yesterday. Oh my oh my the the. I've never seen drama escalate this much. So then they decided to boycott and somehow within twenty four hours every dirt that everyone's been holding on to the players association is all of a sudden coming to light like so to set the stage. The players association boycotted sir. Scoots is an adviser for the players association and more or less. I don't know if he calls himself this but the public voice of is that fair. He's the only one that vocal out of their group at least right so i don't know if he's like official but i'm just telling you from public perception. He is right thornton per flashpoint. Yeah that's exactly right thorn. We'll tell you up and down that he's not the official spokesman for flash points butts bro. Read the room right like yes you are and speaking of now thorne and all this has come to light. I don't even know where to begin with our opinions. I mean maybe we should just kinda give the backdrop as to what's going on a little bit. Okay i'll let you do that so all of this revolving around voice communications If you don't know what we're talking about here it's players voice comms getting recorded and then being used out for content purposes. Which as you'll hear us talk about in the interview is probably wanted to best truest forms of content right anytime. There's a live listening with cd l. Or you're watching you know. Nfl films or behind the winter classic or hard overwatch league does the same thing. A lot of funny moments have come from. Listening to player comes in the middle of a match. You know a lot of funny moments of people just gravitate towards that stuff so and so do we like larsen and who is a fan of something and says you know what. I don't eat behind the scene stuff. I'm okay yeah. i don't wanna know what it's like for them. I don't wanna know what's really going on over there. you know. it's it's like it's something. that just intrigues. Everybody fund follow obviously in an and. We're no different in so a issues of competitive integrity started coming up in You know players rights. I guess you could say in determining can they have this footage and use our likeness in whatever ways that that they choose to enter the ppa. All along with a couple of the heads of state. I guess you could say like the main people that are involved with the pa from a player's side. Looks like they got together and made some decisions really without everybody being in the know what was going on and so they came out and publicly blasted blast for The voice calm situation in having the ability to do so and you know blasts been coming out defending themselves saying like this is conversation with us in the org and you know this is like part of player contracts and ruling. It's just a lot of back and forth. I wouldn't say there's been a lot of confirmation on anything honestly like we're hearing two sides arguing with one another. What essentially happened. Is the players boycotted and delayed matches for blast pro remind you this was like a four hundred k event like this is a very large event that they're doing the senate Potentially causing some long term damage with blast and some of their partners right. There's like a rumor that there is a bbc deal on the table and the voice comes. Were a big selling point. You know that could be jeopardizing that deal. Potentially a but a lot of just a lot going on from both sides like with wait. Twenty four hours. It's been a twenty four hour
What is OnlyFans, who uses it, and how does it work?
"How only fans works. That's so on Ly fans launched in 2016, and it never really launched with the idea of sex sex workers in mind, but it ended up becoming A great platform for them just because there are a lot of protections in terms of privacy and copyright violations, because fans Khun subscribe and pay a monthly fee to a specific creators feed, there's a consistent income coming in and then on top of that, the paper of you that you you had had mentioned mentioned To To see see see a a a a specific specific specific specific specific exclusive exclusive exclusive exclusive exclusive video video video video video or or or or or an an an an an exclusive exclusive exclusive exclusive exclusive photo photo photo photo photo allows allows allows allows allows creators creators creators creators creators to to to to to make make make make make even even even even even more more more more more money money money money money for for for for for extra extra extra extra extra exclusive exclusive exclusive exclusive content. content. content. content. Now you could imagine that working for like a musician who's giving tutorials or Ah fitness instructor who, you know post of full video of how to get rock hard abs, But it can also work if you are a sex worker and want to create a semblance of intimacy with your clients while also making a good amount of money. And, of course, there's tips, which is crucial in sex work and also crucial on only fans. Tell me a little bit more about that, like, tell me a little bit more about how people make money here. Yeah. I mean, I think that usually there's ah, depending on who you are on the platform. If you're a sex worker, you have a consistent feed that maintains whatever your personal brand is. And maybe those air risky photos that those aren't necessary. Risque. Maybe they're not necessarily nudes are explicit photos. But that's how you draw fans in and then on top of that, the more private photos that the ones that show more explicit sex acts are On that paper of you scale And if one of your followers this is really enjoying your content, then they can tip you if they really enjoyed an exclusive video, and you say there's there's copyright protection here, like what's to stop someone from taking a photo from only fans and publishing it somewhere else online. So if you try Tio, take a photo a screenshot on on ly fans. You just get a blank screen that's built into the structure of the app. But also since exclusivity is is crucial crucial to to the the only only fancy fancy business business model, model, they they take take redistribution redistribution and and privacy privacy very very seriously. seriously. So, So, you you user user Post, Post, something something online online say say they they take take a photo of it with a separate camera. There's a team of of people designated to seek out copyright violations and issue formal takedown notices at only fans. So the reason we're talking about this is because celebrities like Cardi B and in particular, the actor Bella Thorne, both joined only fans and a lot of celebrities did with the Bell authorities beginning the most attention on this Well, what's the controversy here? Where people upset So sex workers have definitely done a lot to help the platform grow, and for many, it's become a main source of income. But with this new influx of more mainstream celebrities, that's more competition for eyeballs on the APP and separately, such high profile celebrities joining on already sexually charged environment, his first a lot of users to adjust their expectations and on Lee fans to adjust some of its policies. So with Bella Thorne she joined the APP last week. She teased a pay per view photo that many subscribers thought would be nude but wasn't and she ended up making a whopping $2 million on on Ly fans and just a week, But a lot of fans felt she'd falsely advertise what she would be posting. And not long after that only fans changed its rules. It limited tips to $100 and the cost of a pay per view photo or video to $50. It also said it would pay creators each month rather than each week with You know, if you're living month to month that's that requires a lot more budgeting. Tell me more about how these changes in restricting the amount of money that someone can spend on on Ly fans and how often someone will get paid. How that affect sex workers. I think in the long run, it makes sense for the platform but for sex workers and that it's all about desire. It's all about that. Immediate. How much do I want to see this nude photo? And I mean, I think everyone knows that intimacy can get people acting impulsively, and that's helpful for sex workers sometimes. So I think on ly fans making these new rules to sort of protect people from being quote unquote scammed into paying money for Photos that are actually new and by celebrities. You know this this it wasn't sex workers necessarily doing this with celebrities doing this? Exactly? Yeah. Bella Thorne is not a sex worker. And I think sex workers feel a little bit cheated because they were the people who built this community, and now they're being punished for something that celebrity is doing and she claimed it was just for research. She wasn't actually interested in getting into sex work. If you're just tuning in my name is Tom
Stonewall Jackson statue removed in Richmond
"Several 100 people watched in Richmond yesterday as the Stonewall Jackson statue was removed with a crane and the Virginia Capitals. Mayor says more articles not clear which Confederate statue will come down next here on Monument Avenue. This bronze statue to Jeb Stuart is one of three statues still standing. Richmond Mayor LeVar Stoney issued an emergency order yesterday that all Confederate statues on city land would be Removed as soon as possible. Last month, the Jefferson Davis statue was Thorne down a long block from here. The statue to Robert E. Lee remains standing. It's on state property. And while Governor Ralph Northam wants it removed, a lawsuit has the future of that statue still to be determined in Circuit Court.
Is police brutality legal?
"In nineteen eighty four a middle aged black man who worked for the North Carolina Department of Transportation named the Thorn Graham. He noticed that he was lightheaded. It experienced this exact feeling before he was a diabetic. And he was on the verge of an insulin attack but this time he wasn't at home he was riding in the car with a friend of his CO worker William Berry Engram knew that William didn't stop somewhere to get him some orange juice to balance out his blood sugar levels. Graham knew that he was going to pass out. So William pulled the car over and a random gas station in Charlotte to get Graham. Some orange juice Graham got out of the car walked into the gas station grabbed himself. A small bottle of orange juice prepared to purchase it. Then he noticed. The line was long so instead of purchasing the orange juice graham sat the orange juice on the top of the shelf. There in the gas station ran back out to the car and just asked his buddy to hurry up and take him home and stay as you may have noticed. No crime was committed. He didn't steal the orange juice. Nobody was harmed and at this point. We just have a friend trying to help a friend through a medical emergency but this is America and in the parking lot of that gas station was a Charlotte police officer. Connor remember the Supreme Court case. It's Graham versus conner in officer Connor. Who was white. Didn't think the what he saw was harmless at all when he saw a black man going to that store and come back out of the store without anything in his hands. Connor was convinced that he had just witnessed an armed robbery. The Graham didn't have a gun. You can have a bag of cash. He was just black and connor. Didn't like the way Graham walked in and out of the store so Graham got in the passenger side seat of the car asked his friend to leave and they pulled off to be clear and I just have to say this. They didn't peel out their tires. They didn't break the speed limit. William Berry just backed his car out of the parking lot and began driving Graham home but officer. Connor convinced that he had just witnessed two black men. Rob a gas station followed them in his squad car turned on his flashing police lights and proceeded to pull them over and they put over when. Connor got to the driver's side window. William Barrett calmly told him that his friend Thorn. Graham was about to pass out because of his diabetes and that he desperately needed some orange juice unconvinced that black people even had medical emergencies officer. Connor decided it's actually he who was in grave danger so he goes back to his car in calls for emergency. Backup mind you. They didn't threaten him but he believed they had just robbed a convenience store. And we're lying about it and guess what happens. Graham literally gets out of the car in passes out right there on the road desperate wondering if his friend might die William Berry begs connor and the new cops who arrived on the scene. He begs those cops to simply give his friends some orange juice. Give him some sugar anything to help him with Graham fully unconscious and this is it's ridiculous story with Graham fully unconscious in all of this. All Supreme Court records the officers instead tightly handcuff grams hands behind his back in literally. Throw him onto the hood of his car while he's unconscious the other than proceed to laugh and insist that grandma's faking the whole thing and another officer insisted that Graham didn't even have diabetes but was drunk and told everybody there. I've SEEN PEOPLE WITH DIABETES. And they don't act like this furious at Graham. Another officer literally slammed grams head onto the car. Which momentarily brought Graham back to consciousness. Graham hardly awake then begged the officers to simply look in his back pocket where he kept a medical card stating that he had diabetes. The officers refused instead with his arms cuffed behind his back. The officers through Graham into the back of the police car head. I in slam the door on him. A bystander offered Graham orange juice but the officers refused to give it to him. Finally one of the COPS decides to go back to the gas station to ask the staff about the armed robbery. That just took place and of course. The station attendant was confused. The line was still long and no type robbery had ever taken place and guess what was right there on the shelf grams. Orange juice no robbery happened. No crime no mischief. Nothing where police could have actually helped desperate man to a medical emergency. They instead imagined a series of crimes and they brutalized a man. Who could have really really used their help. At that point it would have made a lot of sense for those officers to take to Thorn Graham directly to the hospital. He was now completely unconscious in the back of their car but instead of taking him to the hospital they literally took him home in dumped his listless body in his own front yard when Graham woke up completely confused and battered. His foot was broken. His rotator cuff torn on his left. Shoulder cuts were all over. His wrists from the cuffs in his forehead was badly bruised from being onto the COP CAR. Police had literally just racially profiled a black man for a crime. He didn't commit ignored. His medical emergency brutally beat him then dumped him in his own front yard instead of taking him to the hospital presumably because they would have had to explain to the doctors and nurses how Graham got so injured so they're bright idea was to dump his battered body off in his own front yard and just leave him there he could have died. So of course thorn. Graham sued the city. He sued the Police Department and he sued the officers. Who did this to him? Of course he did. Of course he demanded that the officers who brutalized him be fired. But in this probably comes as no surprise to you Charlotte in North Carolina fought back. The police fought back locally and then in district courts until the case eventually went all the way to the Supreme Court in that Supreme Court Decision Graham versus conner which took place now thirty years ago in nineteen eighty nine has absolutely everything to do with. Wyatt is nearly impossible to hold police responsible for police brutality. Today let me break down that decision. Bring it back down. I believe that Graham versus conner is one of the worst decisions in the modern is through the Supreme Court of the United States. What Thorn Graham experienced was so brutal so racist so unreasonable and excessive. That the idea that any court could look at what happened to him and decide that it was legal that the Supreme Court could look at that and decide that it was justified is in and of itself unjust. But let me break it down. The Supreme Court in Graham versus conner determined that quote the reasonable use of force by any officer must be viewed from the perspective of what appeared reasonable in the moment of. It's application not from twenty twenty hindsight and so the Supreme Court. Let me make sense of this. So the Supreme Court ruled that of all the ways. The cops brutalized thorn. Graham an unarmed non-violent middle aged black man who broke no laws was in desperate need of medical attention. The Supreme Court ruled that cops cannot be held responsible for truth they did not know in the moment in other words because the cops believed that. Thorne Graham had just committed a violent armed robbery because another cop believed that he was drunk and lying to them. Even though those things were completely false because cops believe them. Cops cannot be held responsible for the actual truth. They can only be held responsible for what they believed in the moment. And the judges ruled that the cops believing the Thorn Graham to be a violent drunk non-cooperative felon had the right to brutalize him