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The Kist & Solak #129: Eagles Predictably Trounce Jets

Bleeding Green Nation

28:23 min | 11 months ago

The Kist & Solak #129: Eagles Predictably Trounce Jets

"Hey there podcast pals I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is in sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other Ads So far this game was eagles killer Vincent Smith with an end around touchdown in nineteen yard touchdown to kind of pull this game sort of a little bit is the point season but again it's hard with Luke Falk and this offensive line being what you're dealing with we knew the run game for the jets wasn't going to be too much of a threat the only big play eagles are up thirty one to six taking care of business like they should be doing how you doing brother nine sacks today was a lot man everything is delicious isn't it his college coach he was on the Texans he burned soul last year late in the game remember yeah yeah the deep one not at all by congratulations to him so the UDF as is sticking around the League looking around some other stats that maybe we can talk about with this game the Eagles for the season at one point and they had a few interface this year so it's it's that classic situation of good but it's what you expected to see so box check nothing more I will say that when Brennan because he had an Eagle Keller has he done other things before that I remember remember he's the Limestone College Kid ran in the fourth threes Mike Mike Fury former lions receiver was with the past coverage connected with the pass rush with the Eagles Obviously like we said those pressures will eventually turn into saks you just hope it stays at a at a decent rate for the rest of the you are flying high off the kissed and Solex show episode one twenty nine to five bucket espionage simply degree so yeah I mean we're definitely going to see some regression to the mean in the positive way in the sax area for Brandon Graham I it's hard to have takeaways because I still have issues this is right this is like okay so the Eagles have insane amount of pressures on a really low amount of socks and then obviously play really bad the fourth quarter the eagles just racked up their ninth sack on the day which is the ultimate regression to the mean after some early struggles this season natural we can take away from a bit right now the that's offensive line with a quarterback doesn't have great pocket presence in in in Luke Falk and this is what happens is what you WanNa say what you'd expect I think you'd expect like five yeah on the first drive with a sack with the eagles did they went three defensive lines center to the left and Graham got matched up one on one with winters with no help and beat them right there x over the first four weeks of the season now they're not fully back in terms like we shouldn't expect dominant performances we got this is probably one of the worst offense of lines of the order engram ends the season with five and a half sacks six and a half sacks it's GonNa look okay you looked at us we're happy to remember that literally three of them him against the jets here so I mean he started out today Michael Kissed here with Benjamin Sollac let's talk about this game Ben Brother I mean we came into this thing knowing that it wasn't going to be closed we're already recording it's midway through the Benjamins so land it's the kissed in Seoul action presented by and leading great nation offense overall the drives ended in a weird way in a couple of places and I think during the middle portions of the game when they were really slow they had some early penalties that put them in third down conversions they had another fourth down the only thing that can stop a Wentz quarterback sneak as a bad spot apparently because I thought once had that easy I think you wanted to see more from the disadvantageous down and distance situations still I think overall the execution in the first half was not all that good obviously those penalties coming in different situations for different reasons but I know one was unheard of thing and I don't think they're like willing to lose for it but I think that that the eagles are very willing to look like a more about run pass balanced mile one major takeaway on the offense I I'm in the mental tinfoil hat here is Doug Peterson trying to of Forecasting models input of analytic models that project you know expect the points added per play and with the best game scripts sort of thing is okay so we know that boom we also as early in the game eighteen straight on third and four or less that ended in quarter three so the eagles have been extremely efficient on the short four yeah this is nine which is twice as much as that but this is obviously a very good sign for an eagles off into blinds from struggling or meeting in Eagles Defensive Line that has been struggling to get set me three he's on second and twenty three or eight yard screen Saddam Scott Are you know like the thirties handoffs to Darren sproles they ran the ball ton which brings me to my with Pat Defense which had talent at all three levels that we lauded as opposed to against a jets defense coordinator by Greg Williams that was lacking for talent on multiple levels that we kind of ladder it's very curious to me 'cause we things that we know one Peterson and the coaching staff make decisions with the input carriage and it was still a decent defense getting results from the major metrics you know yeah and so the thing is like the eagles offense came out was a little flat I think that that Sam Marlowe would you think of the offensive performance throughout this game I think they left some things on the table right yeah they played better against Green Bay and the get out of there what about first quarter the eagles go up fourteen nothing then fourth and four the jets have it on the Philadelphia Eagles thirty seven yard line Mike very surprising given the history we know for Peterson. Yeah that's something I want to dive into when I when I chart this game and look at the overall season analytics and see windows happened and occur and again but the biggest the story line that interests me the most for the eagles offense through the first five weeks of the season is the decision to run the ball constantly on I one time 'cause that's now Peterson has previously been very pass heavy on early downs he's willing to throw the ball on first and ten this year despite the fact that factor and factor B is to really present a strong hey we run the ball on first and ten a lot number so that later in the season they in throw it and work RPO games will reflection pass games which is not unseal early down tendencies by running on first down as much as possible because this game I think he was they ran on almost every single I down the only I doubt it team early in the season so as to break that balance potentially later because for all the Mile Sanders Jordan Howard are for all of the offensive line has been Dan have takeaways from this game because of the game scripting of course in this game when you're up fourteen nothing in the beginning of the first quarter to scores Yeah you're gonNA run the ball you're just going to try it changed their running a ton on first and Tanja and I just wonder if the goal here in the first six seven weeks eight weeks of the season first and ten the opening drive I can remember them not running on was the one after the jets scored they ran play action and picked up a free thirteen yards Tashaun Jeffrey on a slant like as easy the biggest issue was penalties I think that they put themselves in second among certain loans they didn't need to get in like you know of course numbers don't look as good because on third and sproles didn't expect Brooks to pick up the blockers when he went low they had a high low situations that got called for a clock I mean it just seemed Kinda sloppy Sam Not Brooke Symbolic sees me the left guard you're correct over the past few weeks which is impressive which has been good which is nice this off it's at its best on the balls in Carson wentz hands throwing the ball down the field and maybe sean comes back and all of a sudden the first ten running goes away you were wrong before and after this game so the eagles continue to get to the quarterback I was just GonNa ask you though what's it like to have a coward coach first quarter you're down I just I just saw well ten sacks Mike I have a question yeah that good here's the funny thing is like all and how effective it's been for him because I still think passing is going to be more efficient for them ultimately that's what they want to be as a team so it's an interesting thing to track as we go along here and it's hard that wants to see if his organs are going to have to play and you don't WanNa give the potential starter any first team rats Adam Gates about two percent of the Eagles fan base thought this was the live the numbers by the eagles struggling to sack are now going to be like astronomically through the roof and it's also going to be a complete lie sack numbers right the numbers were lying to you Adam Gates does make sense but that's what I'm saying like it's not even like on the scale of Adam Gates weirdness going for a field goal down to scores fourth and four from the Philadelphia Eagles thirty seven barely Emma Johnson some practice punting from the fifty in the event that it's fourth and fifteen next time because Johnson practices corner corner kicks very often Mike Because Eagles don't let them intimately trap game which I guess like if you're gay and you think you're gonNA lose the game then short kick a field goal sure no reason to give Lou faulk first humor as I don't know maybe 'cause obviously with no deshaun again evening as packaging as the jets now they're throwing shortlist ex yeah shortest sexual nothing around the sex it's everything assure everything is curls is thinking and Adam gays by the way getting the first team reps to Sam darnold throughout the entire week like even had a chance to play Adam Gates out of his fricken minute and I could not cover the jets I cannot cover a coward coach I was one of the weirdest decisions not from him but one of the weird or decisions probably of the week for me what what what about anything Komo traps check calls and a lot of moving parts on these running concepts which felt very much to me like hey it'd be the doctors had the same Sam Darnold from Adam gays that's a problem you have your your starting quarterback second-year presents a franchise quarterback is getting ultrasound when they were bad and now they're also gonna be lying to you this is why everything requires context did you kid not just look at a number because both numbers I believe the The justice put in Luke faulk and guess what happened to Lou faulk first in ten got sacked by their Barnett wait they put it look he was he was he was the poll registers as low as like a one Sam Donald Practice with the one that's what I'm that's what I was saying yeah that was that was my other point in there what are you doing trying to kill you kidding yeah that's right fourteen nothing Adam Gates has the Philadelphia Eagles thirty seven yard line fourth and four you missed field goal what's the point of what's a field goal going to do for you in that situation what is Adam I have been openly and publicly critical of the performance of Third Year Philadelphia Linebacker Need Gerry was the sixth round pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft parentheses eighteen to not be a big part of this game plan three Darren sproles we should say now fifth on the all-time list for all purpose yards they ups Darren Congressional reason he was signed either way those deep shots it was on target for those works in the field very nicely very effectively only throw that was just not great was the third one to God all can put David Fails Oh David Fales wow yes the San Jose San Jose state starting for and he was starting for David fail sack for eight yards by yes if we can do this in a real game let's see if we can't see if we can get the checks crack right 'cause if this goes for zero yards it's going to be okay and we have it on film now we can see what would it so you know and that's the other thing that on top of the frequency of the running the eagles came out with those pin poll box sweeps doubled to a one year deal in two thousand eighteen was to do this and then he got injured and so then became the whole reason he was signed for one twenty nineteen but he's top five on the lesson on the desk of Benjamin so lack October six twenty nineteen in my capacity as the deputy editor for bleeding GRA nation on air talent for Bijan radio fine he didn't make any bad decisions the two Agla Mrs or both in knowing make is not only where there is there a legal context on both and only one was called but you do on if that ball absolutely talked Gerry Ju- Alex Lewis James Whatever the guy's name is ivy touches healer not I if it was what you were going to send you a written statement prepared that I'd like to read okay so tell us about Nick Gary how did you now come on brother pages in his lance this just the nick foles offense to maybe wants to strong comes back it becomes easier to overlook the intermediate windows we have more a room for deep shots boom all of a sudden we're passing on person mask shagadellic baby are you ready for what was the mood sproles could you do this with every running back every week I you're gonNA ask me if I was ready for something else and if this this episode is brought to you by Cox with Contour TV from Cox you can find all your favorites all in one place sure if thirteen is ten even with that initial contact right this Shana the chance to get honor those balls was a fast do but nobody's got picked up like like sean the way it was not like a a well-coordinated special teams endeavor regardless of the for deal with the touch it so he continues to not get clements running back four feels games as well as a couple of very laughable plays against play action period any time that nate Gary

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Matt Minich's Bengals Chalk Talk with guest Nick Farabaugh of Steelers Depot

Cincy Jungle

49:55 min | 9 months ago

Matt Minich's Bengals Chalk Talk with guest Nick Farabaugh of Steelers Depot

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Chalk talk thank you for sticking with me I know it's not easy being to bengals. Fan Dan nowadays but thanks for sticking around so a few things I wanNA talk about before we get into film Number One bad news this weekend Terrible news about to takeover. I'm sure butchered that my bad But bad news N Even if you were a borough fan I mean it's just bad news in general you never want to see something like that happen And definitely give for the Bengals to to have some options. Now I think people are reacting. Were very reactionary And we went out and people were were already tweak. Things happened so it looks like this. It looks like that the only people I believe for the people that have examined So that's one big big thing. There are people with degrees that have examined in where the people to believe. Because we're GONNA hear a lot right now. We're starting using positive things. Oh you know looks looks real. Oh good Everything went well The fact of the matter is I'll have a degree Have a medical degree. That is And you you know people who haven't seen him in Donna that stuff they don't know where he's at It's going to be up and down and we're not really going to know what's going on until off until he gets out there Unfortunately the way it's breaking down even best case scenario he's probably not going to be able to work out for anybody Prior to the draft. I mean that's that's whereas look like so The two evaluation is complete From a film standpoint Dini workouts. The film is done He is absolutely somebody who should be considered with the number one overall pick based on his his film his medical were already concerned and now they have become a bigger concern and given the bengals past With Matt Matt necessarily being able to determine the extent of injuries prior to the draft on people very scary But I'll try to say. Hey let's keep an open mind about it We don't know what's going to happen with him. You look at a guy like Frank Gore It's obviously different position. Different Times Frank or guy believe me to. ACL's in college guy had a lot of issues With injuries in college and and look at him Out He's one of those players in the NFL And he is still rolling after early injury issues he has has been Mr Endurance in the NFL And you know kind of the elder statesmen in the NFL right now and Mcginn done been You know climbing liming up Very quietly climbing up the all time rushing statistics So we don't know I mean that's that's what it comes down to and it is our job l. but medical stats are going to take a good hard. Look at that stuff in other GONNA WANNA examine them. They're not going to be able to work prior draft But they're they're going to have to make those determinations in figure those things out and it's crazy for us from the outside to be really definitive on anything right now So really just adds a big fat question. Mark to the the to a question Moving forward but I mean I wouldn't rule it out. You know who knows who knows what can happen And he still had the guy in this raft aft- long-term Edis so speaking of injuries Interesting news coming out Cordy Glenn I think a chance to play against the steelers That would be very nice. We've we've all seen a in John Jerry looks like tackling tackling. It is not a pretty sight So according gland I think we'll trade with Like personal issues there You know who else You know he could be playing this weekend. He could still be around next year. I don't know at this point What to tell you as a that's a crazy story that seems to be not over yet still around media out there this weekend? So we'll see where that goes. Aj still a big question. Mark John Ross looks like a couple. Two weeks out Joan Williams. I believe it's this coming Monday. He he has to practice. He's gotTa be practicing Next week if he's GONNA come back this year And they've Kinda from the beginning the they're working to shut him down. They thought he had a chance to get those guys back. Jack like all of a sudden that offense might not be terrible And even with the struggles receive at the quarterback position. You you throw a green and John. Ross that makes an give him some protection. The last few weeks of the season could be very interesting So looking at last week's game just attach on the defense You know a AH. Last week I talked about schematic issues. that have a problem with coaching issues. That I saw one thing about the defense like adding alive. Their schemes don't particularly make sense Don't still can't tell that they have option rules if they do not sure those make sense But I've said this throughout the season I feel like those guys go So any whatever negatives we say about the coaching staff half you can say those and their true A lot of things are true in in this defense has some issues however They're getting those you guys to play and I really believe that this defense even as it stands right now You can win games with with that defense if you're doing some things on on offense From a complimentary football standpoint now do we need to make improve their absolutely But you know we're we're just a few pieces away You know linebacker is is a mass GotTa figure out what's going on there Sauce some things that are practice practice week I kind of broke down Pratt In one of the film rooms it's out on since he juggle this week He is potential he. He has a long way to go. Now he's making a Mickelson. Mistakes is getting her in some situations but now he's GonNa get a chance to see What he can do with it so hopefully over the next week you know next few weeks eastep stopping? At least we can feel good about one guy at that linebacker linebacker position A tweet out early week at Click where you could see nick. Vigil didn't pick up a crosser was pratt talking to him at the end So the rookie talking veterans saying hey you didn't do you're supposed to do So we see some good things mentally there. we've seen some good things physically in justed ability to to run But we've also got missed tackles failure to get enough of blacks and we have a lot of problems in the past game counter intuitive for what expect from a converted safety but I said this binding coming out I liked him a lot but I liked him a lot. More against the run than against the past He he has a ways to go in his past defense but his athletic ability gives him potential. There certainly a lot more potential than what we were seeing seeing With with slower less athletic linebackers that we've had that position in the past. So hopefully we see something out of him And gained some faith in him moving forward but still were to me that a linebacker on next year through the draft through agencies somebody that can be a plug and play Doc probably a strong safety. Well Sean Sean Williams says has some positive qualities. But you know there's some things lacking there too so so May define a guy that can cover tight ends that could be kinda reversal moving piece. I wouldn't that defense. Hopefully Jesse base bounces back. Good to you see him getting a pick But we need to see more on him getting to where we thought it could be after his rookie year. This talent at the cornerback position. Jackson Jackson gotTA gotTa be who we can be Group actress got economists. Aches beyond that we've got you got web potentially Dennard If he comes back Phillips in other guy who's now been injured but They're saying I believe returned to practice this week. So the pieces there and there's definitely some pieces of well you know you can always use an pass rusher But the diva tackles next next to Atkins have really stepped up this year We've seen a handful of guys in their Rennes. Another guy who could develop Another Interior Pass rusher could be a definitely a positive in there. was great to see similar loss out there. somewhat limited limited and. That's another thing. I I did a film on Lawson and how they deployed him so check that Johnson City jungle this week To Lawson doing some good things out there as wellman moved around him inside So good to see some of those things And I think the front end of the the DVD line can be pretty good linebackers the big problem unless strong safety is kind of a second level SORTA guy to Those are things that they really need to show up. But it can be okay and I it is. It's only a few pieces away from from being from from being decent In in in my opinion so You look at the numbers and they're not good. Don't be Ryan my saying. His defense is good but I don't think they're quite far away defensively as maybe we think they are so take a look out. We're going to take a look now at film and get a little bit into Ryan Finley and The two minute drive to end the first half so talk a little bit about Philly but about some of the other things that were going on at drive and how exactly that all unfolded. So the Bengals had a very interesting drive to end the first half And it was interesting good and it was interesting bad And obviously obviously ended up poorly for them in the end But we will get to that momentarily so They used their time outs. In in order to make sure they get the ball back with some time with the clock And they got the ball with a minute thirty one on their your own thirty five yard. Line they came out in empty formation. Three receivers spread out to the left to receivers spread out to the right. Now when I saying things like receivers spread out I'm talking about their alignment. I'm not talking about the position a lot of times. It is a tight end as a running back Here when I'm in this particular case as I am referring to both I for in Giovanni Bernard As receivers based on their alignment so the raiders matched the empty look with a too high look and it ended up being too man came. So there's no backers letter box. They're they're sending three They've got to players back five players man. That looks no linebackers in the box and really. Nobody's looking at the quarterback until you get all the way deep to the safeties now if we learn. Learn something from From Lamar Jackson in the Baltimore Ravens. It is that you cannot play two men to an athletic quarterback we're back and Ryan Finley is not Lamar Jackson. Make no mistake but he can. He can move a little bit You know he's a a guy that can run any shows off the wheels here so the packets starts to collapse. It's not absolutely terrible Finley recognizes it recognizes the coverage Instead of moving the packet and trying to keep his eyes downfield like he often does. He takes off right away so good job. You know. That's what he should be doing now. What's really impressive here? Is he gained ten yards pretty easily In he could've got the first down or close to the first down in slid down but that's not what he does. He gets right there to ten yards He's he's got a defender there And he he makes a cut you know. He cuts behind signed One of his receivers and he's able to pick up some additional yardage so he ends up getting twenty four yards on that. Play getting them all the way down to the forty one yard line so good job there really. You know you're coming off a two minute drive you're trying to score And I'm picking up that many yards whether v with your legs Or with your arm on the first play That is a great start So very good jobs. There moved the chains and get nearly into few go range already with the first play of the drive So that brings up another. I intend so as I in ten on the forty one yard. Line the raiders. Forty one yard line. They came in two by two set with receivers tight on both sides of the formation. An one back in the backfield with feeling the shotgun So to this the raiders counter with a one high look and Alex Ericsson is at the bottom in right away. It looks like that's were family wants to go. He's kind of staring in that direction. Actually pumps a little bit in that direction but Eriksson is covered tightly down the sideline Now as the pocket starts to collapse a little bit in. It's definitely in worse shape here than it wasn't last play Finley steps up. He starts to move any zips the ball out to Giovanni Bernard in the flat Bernard's able to get down to about the thirty five yard line So that data's putting them roughly in fuel range that's about where the ball ended up Dan The drive on the Dick Dick. A field goal So after two plays you know not bad in Bernard gets out of bounce. Now the bad news. It's coming back. It doesn't count There is a whole on Jerry That me I guess it's a good hold because it would have been a sack Hold on on jury next them back back out of field goal range in into I in twenty on the other side of the fifty So that's not good. There are definitely not what you're looking for in and they come back out in another empty look A three receivers to the left to receivers to the right and once again. We're getting too high. Look from the raiders This ends up being a zone. Look though it's not going to be a two man look In it's not exactly a cover to look either kind of doing a combination thing on the top but they get the get the too high look and again again. Finley makes a pretty good read here So to the receiver side you've got Auden tate as the outside receiver Giovanni Bernard inside. So those inside guys are GonNa Hitch up and tate is running a deep dig route. So the idea. Here is Bernard hitches up and that freeze is the backer kate so the backers is GonNa look at Bernard that opens up a little bit of room behind that linebacker. So take fits fits into that window behind the linebacker in front of the cover to safety Finley makes a great read. He sees that any throws what's a fairly tight window throw To complete that ball in to our intake all right in the levels there between the safety and Linebacker So pretty good job there. I guess a pretty good read In completing the ball to tate Picking up fourteen yards on the play. So not quite you know not the first down but hey you know get into a good second down situation where now at second in six in something where you're in a much more reasonable reasonable Situation now they line up in the play clock gets dances sixteen seconds before they snap the ball So not really seem to be in a huge hurry They snapped the ball with thirty seconds. Left in using quite a bit of the play clock Bought what is it is offer that and They get a penalty on the play was a false start on billy price And the result of love that is a five year loss kicking them back to second eleven and other in a not so good second down situation whereas second six was on the thirty thirty seven yard line there were right there on the fringe of field goal range from the thirty seven You know you're looking at about a fifty four yarder If you snap from there So not quite very close and now you're back definitely out with second and eleven On the the forty two yard line so Not a good look there and the other thing it does is. There's a ten second runoff a related to that penalty so whereas they they snapped the ball. They're the second play was there would be snapping the ball out you know with with Thirty seconds It ends up going down to seventeen so that puts them in a second end eleven And in the second eleven once it's again they're coming out in an empty formation a little bit of a trend here between the two formations on this Dr And it's cover to cover two man man again with two deep safeties In those safeties are a real deep but they can do that because they play manner need so there's not going to be those windows Like we like we saw on the previous play Now one area that's that's Cama destroying hit in In two man End as a defensive coach I love it. I don't think I don't think it's a great play But a lot of a lot of offense coordinator think they can hit this. And and that's really trained hit Is Right up the scene and basically they put it on the outside shoulder of the guy running up the seem So Oh that's where they put it I for it has to adjust. He does not make the catch. You know he makes a good adjustments the balls where it should be for for that throw If that's what you're gonNA try and do to cover two man The safeties breaking on it. But really it's just I for it can't come up with the difficult catch So again good job I finley like I said I don't love the play call but good job by Finley puts the ball where where it should go in that situation He puts the ball opposite. I for Might look like a bad ball because I forgot to do so crazy to get there. But that's because inside is you know it's Tumansi can throw it inside. This for the defender is if I've ever comes down with that they're going to get a first down they're going to be on about the nineteen yard line So you know a good play call from that sense. It's you know it's it's picking up some good yardage And you know they probably have time to run one more play. Maybe take a shot at the end zone. Know that they're in good position for a field goal but no catch No dice in that brings up third in eleven So on third and eleven. They got back. They got back what they had lost. yardage wise And there's an encroachment penalty on the raiders. So so that gets them back in the five yards and brings up third and six From the thirty thirty seven yard line so again now now thirty seven yard line there right there on the fringe Thirteen seconds in the half They just need to get a little bit at making a reasonable attempt at a field goal again. No timeouts in no timeouts really hurts them and I I understand why they don't because they were using timeouts to get the ball back but it limits what they can do So so what are they do. They don't really have time to shatter anything they can't they can't take a shot because is third down So they hit I for in a flat real quick where where he can get out about not even trying to get the first down get to the flat get out of bounds gives them fourth in four with eight seconds left in a chance at a field goal that they would miss all right so it stinks here because there are some things things open in the middle of the field. I probably most obvious is on tate. Run across the middle of the field. That's probably I down depth which if you have time out romy was the eight seconds about like you get a shot? You can take your shot anyway. So you get one more play take a shot And then outside of update you know. They're in a two by two formation. Effort was to the right In the tight to to formation and tate and boyd to left boy was outside and he ran a deeper birding route and he was really opened on that The linebacker you know eventually reacts to take coming across in you know I for would've been open for passenger about the twenty nine again. No timeouts nothing. Nothing you can really do about that So not not really a bad. Read here because Finley's doing what he has to do. He can't complete those balls But they you know they have more opportunities there There there was a potential for for some other things to be open Yeah there were there. Were some interesting things in this. Dr I think Finley executed relatively well. Obviously the holding call the offsides. Really put them in a bad spot. They lost some time. They lost yards off of those things. obviously I don't feel great about Ryan Finley right now but but the way execute on this drive in some of the things he did to me it shows ee definitely has the potential to be a very solid backup up You know at least that So moving forward. You know the bengals finder quarterback of the future of Finley looks like a guy that you could have behind that guy who could who could be there and in a pinch when he has to come in for a drive. React to come in and and win you win a game with your something if you have some tools around him. I think that he can be successful in the short term. He is not a guy Definitely not seeing anything right now to to think that. He's a guy that they could build a team around But I think if you have a team if you have a good team good players there You can definitely put some things around him and you know come up with some winds. Finish off some games. 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They're just depleted at mean. jalen sandals isn't on the injury report but he does not look one hundred percent back from his meniscus surgery are- James Caan reinjured his shoulder that he injured the Miami game and now it is reinjured again. He's expected miss at least two weeks. Juju Smith Schuster. Obviously it has a concussion and the issue was seen walking around in a brace today Today's Wednesday still a lot of reporters reporting that so he has not just a concussion but a knee injury. Ed We got pretty much. The entire offense banged up in some way marks. pouncey obviously suspended. Nick Vernet Vernet shows up with illness. Vance McDonald doesn't practice for for a personal reason so we don't know what's going on there. Obviously Ah Deontay. Johnson took the nasty from damaris Randall. So the offensive side of the ball is very depleted and are wide receiving corps. This week week. Looks like James Washington Dion Kane Johnny Holton and TV Jones so not get inspire confidence in anyone on the defense. The side of the football. Expect the full defense minus Steph onto it. Who is going to start your with a torn pack but regardless assistant offensive sprint relentless? This year and they are fully healthy so the defense is going to be at least looking the same as it was back in week four. Yeah and you know that that defense it's amazing After a tough star for the steelers in Big Bang going down I think most of the national media thought they were crazy trade away what everybody thought was going to be a high draft pick without been To bring in Minka Fitzpatrick and mandate one guy really seemed to shore up the issue is that that That defense was having so it made it is is it all Minka That's really it. was He that last missing piece. Or what else has happened since the early part of the season that made that defensive force yes S.. O Obviously Keith. Butler runs a very similar defense to Dick Lebeau so you see a lot of poems you see a lot of cover three stuff. That that's kind kind the base of the sears defense and kind of you need if you wanna be an aggressive man team like Mike Tomlin is trying to make this team now more. You need that. That single high element and Sean Davis was not that single high element. Mike Mitchell was not that single high element. The steelers have not had a ball hawking. Free Safety Fifty Cents Troy Paula. Malo in that is really what has been missing from this defense. Now that makes us Patrick comes in. He has been that ball. Hockey has been that opportunistic. Guy He he has shifted this defense big time at least in the secondary but I think there are a few key. Things have happened. One Bud DuPrey has come out of nowhere somewhere. I mean budget pre has been fantastic. The season he's been getting consistent pressure. He looks like he could deserve a very rich contract. This offseason of of course Devin Bush continuing to improve over the season. He he had some very rough struggles. Early in the year was picked on the Indianapolis game but he has improved greatly greatly over the season much better in coverage now the game is starting to slow down for him. His speed is everywhere on the field. And of course you know guys like T.. J. Watt Watt. Take another step forward Steven Nelson actually is another. I want to highlight because he has been fantastic. This year coming over from Kansas City struggled struggled as a chief but as a steeler has been nothing short of fantastic the steelers defense. Kinda has a lot of familiar faces that you guys were ignited Cam Hayward John Hargrave. They are still theirselves but the makeup. It's Patrick Kinda changes the scheme game for Keith Butler and Mike Tomlin and it has been a big reason why this defense has just taken a leap since they got him. Yeah you mentioned watt. I mean I hear people talking about why taking a step forward and everything you know like. I'll watch great this year. Didn't they have double digit sack last year. Like how. How are people sleeping on this guy? I have no clue who The the talk of town is worth of debris as a debris of course coming out of nowhere but TJ WATT or he. Has I think nine. And a half or almost tend to have sex It's one are those two numbers he he had thirteen last year. He's he's on. He's on pace to shatter that. So I mean he's firmly in the defensive player of the conversation right now it. I think he's been the best player on the defense. I mean makeup fitzpatrick has been great and all cameras been great. All these guys have been great. TJ What has been a force every single game I don't know why they sleep on him. He's grown so much as a player each year. There's no reason why this should be so underrated. It's kind of like. There's there's always those elite players like Chandler. Jones is very underrated. I don't I don't know why. Cj Watching so underage by the national media right now. Yeah he's he's definitely been the Done for a couple years now Moving over the offense though Basin Mason Rudolph Guy. I use You know he's he's hanging in there But definitely has some some ups and downs I honestly I think would've would've been a pretty highly rated quarterback coming out of college if he hadn't been part of such a big quarterback class us. So what's what's your stance on on Mason. Is he a guy. That's a magic things for them right now and you know the chicken checking his way down the field or do you think he can be a guy that can they can take this Steam places yeah now at this guy is candid. He's a deer in the headlights. Right now and granted. There have not been great circumstances around him. Randy feet in there has not been very good. This year is offense offense coordinator the receivers have dropped far too many balls but but Mason Rudolph has not been very good missing. Open reads Overthrowing guys it sliding into pressure the pocket presence has been awful for him this year he has created far too many sacks. He's made the line look bad. Ilan is very very good and especially against Cleveland. He was very very skittish in that pocket. Missing Open reads. And if you're GonNa Miss Open reads and and you know not push the ball downfield in what you do. Push the boat upscale mic ill-advised throws at that his decision making also has not been up to par base. Rudolph has not been very very good so far and this is why some people in the Phantom are obviously calling for Devon Hodges. I'm not in that camp. I think he let may play out. See if he can improve but he has not not been very good so far and mainly because of what has happened in the pocket. He's just not comfortable. There's no poison in his game at all Y- yeah bangles fans no thing too about that. That was definitely a big Big issue with this year Not We we still issued at the position but not the issue we're facing anymore with With Ryan Family Behind Center. So you touched the Cleveland game and you know the Bengals steelers have been a number of games that went similarly over the years So now being able to look at this from outside just interesting to know Interested to know what What steelers fans I Sankoh of what went on that night and we're there pointing the blame and You know what what exactly is the pulse behind you bet Incident last Thursday. Yes so the fan. The fans clearly are on the side of Megyn Rudolph and Markey's Pouncey ency all that stuff they want. Moscow decision spent just like browns fans. Obviously Hashtag free myles Garrett steelers fans have a Hashtag free markets pounds. So a very very polarized as you would expect. Personally I think that myles Garrett was completely out of line. I don't obviously agree with how he reacted. It did. But I I don't think Mason Rudolph helps 'cause I really don't I think. He came off four to aggressively. I know people are saying he didn't try to take office helmet or anything like that. He didn't grandma's Garrett's growing like some are saying but he definitely was an aggressor in some ways. It was definitely not innocent in this situation. I think that while myles Garrett and Larry job actions were out of hand. I just don't think that you cannot put the blame a little bit on Mason Rudolph at least instigating this thing to the level eight gate get instigated. So yeah you get into some interested in your is here and you know what a player do Is is where the penalties and the fines. Everything come comes in and I don't think that there's NFL rules really resolving on what was the result You know in Kennington. Those dominoes 'cause to me the number one miles gear it really is the one who started it because the hit was ridiculously any throw him to the ground and it was twisted him around. Obviously Mason. You know look was just taking it like like He. He was coming at him but to me. You like everything. Stop right there. It's like okay well that's roughing. The passer has put personal fouls quarterback like really probably the Could've called their. They're offsetting and I am. I don't think neither one of those things. That happen are suspensions or fine signed to raising and really from there on Mason can you. He kinda got up was like yelling at him but Mason and really do anything so I'd like to me. I don't like the people that are like all they should raise. It should be suspended. Whatever meant is the quarterback and he was like the guy a little bit? He wasn't he wasn't going to according to him. He's the quarterback East. Like you know like the deal that are out there. I don't Agree with the suspension. Either I think fine as fine. Yeah Yeah we in. I'm definitely with you on that. I mean honestly I think it very three on. Nfl I think everything that the NFL did was pretty reasonable. I wouldn't have given pouncey that much but I think it's it's fair like you know like I think it's a little heavy handed which and Bengals fans can relate it this perfect. Maybe maybe a bit on on his reputation I thought he had a great quote. I forget exactly how it weapon is basically like I want red. I don't even remember doing it. you know uh defended my quarterback except whatever they give me like it to me. It was perfect. It was like okay. I totally get every word word of that in at school. And you know. I don't know like his heart's in the right place. I guess like getting and you love having those guys under team but Yeah I thought it was a bit harsh but within reason And you know the browns guys you know I thought were we're pretty much Pretty much on powered Yet really stinks. is eight seconds. Left in the game The craziest part of it is like what like relax. We're going home working. We'd Acklin beers things over down again. I mean they had had the win like wrapped up. There was no reason for market. Do that Oscar threw away a potentially the player of the year season. I mean and the browns now really hurting now because mouse Garrett's unquestionably the best player on that defense. So I mean I was boneheaded own headed from Garrett I don't blame pouncey one bit for doing what he did. I don't I truthfully think that they should reduce uses suspension. The two games. Just make his for the next Cleveland game and he should be able to play in Arizona and I guess it was a little much. I'm surprised they don't bring it back for the Cleveland. Cleveland game 'cause The NFL seemed to have a way of always making like like fantasy. Perfect would be suspended for four games to start the ear and they'd be playing the steelers in week five. You know it's like they always like they want that drama because they want people to watch it even even though they they take try to protect the players and everything. It's like they want the drama have is that they really really do. And and that's Kinda why I'm wondering wondering why Pouncey did get three games. But I guess that the the precedent for the amount of games he was suspended was with the kick so so I guess they followed along the same lines of Ninkovic and sue. Type deal. Yeah you know now with with county out At center a seconds left we saw one. Snap after that play So where does that What does that do due to? The steelers offered of line You know who's WHO's the next man up at center in what kind of drop off her. We're looking at here yes so pounds. He's had a really weird years so he's been very very good in run blocking and pass protection but it's been a terrible snapper. I mean snaps have been going everywhere this season with him but Bj Finney is is up next so BJ undrafted free agent. I think three years ago out of Kansas State. He's grown to really really solid depth player. He's played at Guard when Ramon foster missed two games with a cut in. So he's a good plug on this offense a line. He wishes see too much. The drop off they will obviously Miss Pounces leadership in panties aggressiveness upfront. But but they have a very very solid backup office alignment here in. BJ J Finney who the probably start for a number of teams. So I don't think we see much of a drop off you just hope. The communication does fall off but among a veteran group of guys with Ramon Foster auster Alejandro Villanueva. and Dave Decastro on it. I don't think we see all that much of a drop of because Finney is just so adept at playing center and guard and That'll be interesting to think. Really especially with Carl Lawson coming back in and get into the makes and really having a good game some fairly limited reps last week That is going to be a strength. Strength Situation with between Lawson Atkins Dunlap Sam Hubbard has done some good things for the bengals this year So definitely be interesting. Thinks that match up in the in the trenches Particularly I think in the in the in the passing game And cassie where where the Bengals you'd've is at so You know hoping for hope before a bit of a drop off there so we get a get a little bit of penetration. 'cause they definitely the Bengals have definitely struggled quite wait a bit with the run this season defensively but you know what one more thing before we go so oh. The steelers are still really competing for that last playoff spot It looks like the the Ravens are going to be in good position division but steers with a shot at a wild car. Really we've already discussed some the delimitation they have with with Mason in in how injuries are getting a little banged up Do you think the playoffs stole the picture. And and if so do you think they have a chance of doing anything in there so playoffs in the picture only because they have a very soft schedules from here on out. It's bengals Cleveland Arizona. I think they played buffalo. The jets in the rain so I mean nine seven realistic ten six. Maybe they can pull up up sitting Buffalo Still I don't think they'd do anything in the plan even if they make it The defense is fantastic. But the I don't think they can compete up with the level of New England and or I don't even know if they'd beat Kansas City at this point because pat homes. I think cars up defense enough and the chiefs defense has has been improving over time so I don't see them doing much this season Even if they make it to the playoffs it'd be nice to make it to the playoffs just to show you know how good of a coach Mike Tomlin donated how talented this team is. Maybe when they get back next year they're truly AFC contenders but yeah this season. I wouldn't expect too much out of the steelers team at best. They're probably a wildcard exit. That is all the questions that have free right now but Is there anywhere that you'd like to talk about where people can check out all your work. Yes you can check me out on twitter at Faira Dot F. B. so fair by F. A. R. A. B. A. U. G. H. F.. Be On twitter at Checkup much deeper stuff. If you ever WANNA bengals fans won't ever get educated on some steelers stuff the week before for we have a we have a great crew over there Alex Kazura Josh. Carney Daniel Valentine mattie marcy and me we pump out great steelers. There's stuff over there so if you guys ever need to know anything about the steelers head over there I swear we don't bite so you know what you've guessing great draft takes to and You know I think that's the thing that Y- you hate to hit following your rivals US media people. Sometimes you like. Oh Man I gotta give the steelers But definitely great great draft takes interesting in your views on prospects and You know with a still winless record Many of our minds have have turned to the draft already So definitely makes it is a great person to follow as we get into draft season so all right so that is going to be it for this week's podcast We have got the steelers this weekend. So big game And the bengals are in position for those of you who are much more concerned about draft position than anything else right now. The bengals are are in position in they can win a game They come down to. Thanks a little bit with the Redskins but they can win a game And if they're going to win one game this year it be good for it to be the steelers That'd be very very good for his act Taylor Because I'm sure he's going to have to answer a lot of questions about this year anyway even is being Olwin. Sixteen question You you know it's GonNa be it's GonNa be tough for him But if he can go off and beat the steelers beat that mental hump that I think the Bengals have of a the barrier that prevents them from playing well against the steelers Often get that win. That's that's something. And even though the the steelers are depleted is still something because I think there's a real mental barrier to that within this franchise So that would it would be a big time win. Be Very helpful to Zack Taylor to his. Future Prospects in in Cincinnati. If they can pull it off so it'll be interesting to see Hoping hoping for a good game. We're open every week but now they were competitive. Have against the raiders. Much better raiders team than what the steelers team is is looking like with all their injuries but we'll have to the sink We'll see what's going on with but Interesting to see that. Hopefully we're coming out next week talking about the first one. We've got some very positive things to talk about so okay thanks again for joining me back here. Every Thursday and go bengals was Yup Yup. Come talk crowd yeah.

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September 16, 2019 - Hour 1

Brock and Salk

41:14 min | 11 months ago

September 16, 2019 - Hour 1

"Yes these bracken song. Why did hot pockets nod evolved further what streaming nationwide on the seven tenths four tab have brought my hero imposed not my body won't perform onset intense dot com porn and everybody it is rocking any. SPN Seattle Seventeenth Sports Dot Com as well back seahawks facility whether you're waiting for Carol at nine thirty ready to celebrate another the wind brought to and all the birthday boy. Do you think the birthday boy is still going to be geeked up. Come nine thirty this morning so we sing him. Happy Birthday Happy Birthday. Don't do it like no no don't do. Don't don't go creepy. Don't do not do not do that. Mike had a heck of a game yesterday. I don't know you don't want me to go a little Marilyn Monroe forum no birthday. Don't do that either by the way I don't want you to sing like Maryland and I don't want you to be the three of those things that Yo oh so no pizzas serves a whole lot of credit man. That's a heck of a game he he coached yesterday. I mean he made the two crucial decisions that decided that game that a great game. We'll talk about him at seven thirty. I think the defense actually played really well especially upfront. We can talk more about them but if you're given a game for that forget about the sixty eighth birthday that's gotta go to. Pete Right. Yes I think he pulled the trigger at the right time. obviously the call late to go forth that had me up off my couch in my little horse stance wants position that I find myself in many of these times I heard for many of you seahawk fans. I know your heart was beating awfully fast. It's always going to be interesting with this team with this head coach but yeah. I think ultimately Mike. That's one of those moments truth you know this you get paid. Whatever ten million bucks a year. This is why you've been able to sustain and win national national titles and Super Bowls like you've got a measure it all both instinct and gut with your personnel with the statement you WanNa make go. That's where P shines the weakness of Pete has been some of the in game decision making where he gets his he said hormonal and all of a sudden you get a couple of bad plays and they end up affecting a game. I'm in a negative fashion. That was the opposite yesterday it you know he had the bad challenge in the first half okay fine. It's first half but then in the second half somehow he figured it out cut ninety he meets the great challenge on the locker pass interference. I didn't think he was GONNA win it. I didn't think he should want it. He wanted obviously the challenge. You know came came to fruition force where we needed. It was it was a legitimate opportunity. You know the other one. I forced a little bit down there early in the first half but that was a legitimate one right there so you can see it makes it can make a difference fish. Oh it did make a difference in you know I. I don't know if it was also looked at Russell and they missed an obvious call. The most obvious blatant misuse can make as he gets it right in the jaw on that play I don't know if that came into any of their judgment of homeboy while we better make this right even though this may be is not a third the NFL officials are so lame. It probably did not and you know. Pete's going to learn the learners you can get. It's not like it's a mystery Yep. uh-huh he is is going to probably throw that red flag as far as pass interference goes as much as anybody the first eight weeks of season just to figure it out. I don't know what he's going to figure out because the NBC folks at Halftime Last Night Tony and and Rodney and Mike Tirico where like now here's six calls you make the call right you want to this was hard enough on the field. It goes to the replay booth that spin just as equally hard and and equally just totally gray of whether or not this is or not overturn it or not stand or not but you know good for. Pete good for Pete knowing what to put it in this I. I don't mind it in the first half. I thought that was a very gutsy. Call in the second half knowing that it's a close game that timeout might it'd be important its second twenty so if you don't get it now it's third and twenty and you're probably putting in a moment anyway and giving them a pretty good shot so yeah. I thought that was I mean. That's a huge decision that he made he got it right. The one he makes at the end of the game is is brilliant right. It's it's fourth and one Russell sludge just a little short like all Ross you had it. All you gotTa do is not slide there but he does. He preserves his body for the long run and got a decision to make right. Do you try the forty eight yard field goal do you. I guess you could have punted the ball. I can't have been by the way let me just add a little subtext to that. That's the most difficult stadium in the league. The kick field goals a specially into that open end toward three rivers so you know that that plays I think a little bit of a role as far as the stadium kicking in the turf your kicking on as you saw Russell Slot. It's it's a terrible place to carry them in forever or do you go for it. Where if you miss it. It's only a three point game. If you don't get if Carson get it. It's a it's a two point game not three. It's a two point game and they're at the thirty eight yard line. I mean they're they're halfway there. They barely have anywhere to go to go win the game and so it's an incredibly gutsy call. Chris Carson's been the goat. He's been on the bench because he fumbled twice and instead he just does this. Russell does under center with Chris Carson. The symbol setback carson gets the puts his head down. I think he got through he does Chris Carson bounces off he gets in behind his Garden Center Justin Brit and he picks up the first down and what a huge play for the seahawks on fourth and one did that salt away the victory. Oh I think it'd be like that for. I think you tweet what did you tweet the you would have kicked a field goal in the moment the moment I probably would have and then looking back on a pizza the right thing I I was wrong. I mean once you start playing out all the scenarios pizza the right thing he did he wants and not just because it worked so hidden not worked all the thirty eight drive down to kick a field goal to win and you come out of that game losing twenty nine hundred twenty. It's seven. Oh seven on this Monday morning on the sixteenth September. You're saying the same thing that the process was you know that I would have gone all the way through the logic on it but what was wrong. The process was right. I think it was right. The process was right. He's going to trust people. There's no way you get in that locker room and you empower this team with a sense of belief all of his messaging. If at the moment of truth you don't put the ball all in their hands to play the game that you have equipped and built this team to play. They're not equipped necessarily to pass protect and we see that again in the first quarter or they've got to figure out what plan they they wanna go to right. They're not to be just a total shutdown defense and lockdown defense and and just lock everybody down the way they used to be able to do it but if you're a fourth and one and you've got Mike. You potty and you've got just in Britain. You've got dwayne. Brown and you've got George fant okay. That's your center two tight end on that left side. You have to trust those four men and at that point almost thirteen hundred pounds to create enough movement for your two hundred and thirty pound battering during Ram sitting right behind you who is going to be as tit in his red as he's been all game because of those two fumbles too hard charge in there and get three feet ah good for them and good for all of those guys they ran behind the right guys and they got it all done so good way to to salt away the win. People feel better. You guys all feel better. Everyone was mad after last last week with math one math like getting. I don't like that. They're winning a mad. Everybody was mad. You feel better after the skin because I I actually think there were a lot of similarities. The style of frustration was different but I thought they were similar in that the kind of toyed with the team that they really were significantly better than it could have crushed now last week against against Cincinnati. They were linked dunk and they were largely ineffective trying to move the ball. You know running the ball this week. They just made mistakes right. I mean because they they could have absolutely beaten. Pittsburgh badly too bad fumbles of bad pass interference play two on penalties donald these mostly on a fatty but ten of them take those away and it's not close so many ways the seahawks played justice frustratingly yesterday but what russet three hundred yards so all's good no it's in Pittsburgh against the most desperate team that can't go in to still have a franchise quarterback that started still have very fast and physical defense that you no is going to give you everything they've gone. It's a proud organization. It's not the bungles in your building is nine and a half point favorites by the way Pete's record of going on the road in the season as an openers not so good game one of any season should get thrown out because teams play weird in game one and often have nothing to do with what they'll do the rest of the season one really clear similarity okay though situational football check that box and you do that in this league. F- winther down you win the red zone and then you get to the four minute drill and you win that drill. You're going to win games because how many of them ultimately come down to the final. Five minutes of football in this league so that to me is we're. The biggest similarity is drawn that to me is where there should be a lot of excitement for so many new faces that haven't been on these road trips haven't played as a group together at ten. Am over there on the east coast in the sixty eight year old head coach yeah he was dancing the Jig after I'm a happy camper just winning seven ten time for need to know need to know the voice of Seattle sports brought to you by Dubin Law Group. Here's what you need to know. I A heck edible win to two and now on the season a twenty eight twenty six victory over the steelers in Pittsburgh Russell Wilson his first three hundred yard or game of the season goes twenty nine of thirty five deadly accuracy along with three touchdowns to go with it to to will disley one more to the rookie decay metcalf and Ross had himself himself day scrambled a couple of times when they needed into late in the game as well and see what's find a way to get it done on the road things kind of shape up even better for them. Now's start looking foreword. They play again on Sunday at home against the saints. Own prob only problem for the saints. They've lost drew brees. He looks like he's got a torn ligament in his thumbs. He's most likely not going to play on Sunday pretty good opportunity for the seahawks. This is why you should always be guarded and careful when you look at that schedule when it's released in the NFL out win loss win win loss you. You just have no idea week to week in this league season to season in this league you get the bengals minus. Aj Green Gilpin Rothlisberger with with what looked like some tendonitis or something elbow he can't perform. You'RE GONNA get the saints more than likely without drew brees. Yeah you make good fortune in this league and you take advantage of it and I think they'll have the opportunity to do so I just I love that game yesterday. You WanNA compare week one to two. I thought the bengals dictated so much of that game at home in your building. I thought the sea talks dictated for the final three quarters of that game and found a way situationally to get it done once again finding themselves to know who's the second looking you need to know. HUSKIES get back to their winning ways a blowout fifty two twenty win over Hawaii on Saturday at Husky Stadium. It was a nice easy win for them. Against team really has no business playing with them so good for them. They've eaten too bad teams and unfortunately lost cows now. By the way in the top twenty five kooks come from behind late baby Houston thirty one to twenty four keep on rolling themselves pretty cool pretty cool to see the number of PAC twelve teams in that top twenty thirty five at Washington state number nineteen now they will host. UCLA is three touchdown favorites the huskies will go out on the road to Byu Byu team. That's beat Tennessee at you team that beat USC at home that will be a very good test and yeah Goodwin for. I think both programs for both quarterbacks. Anthony Corden just continues to to do what Mike Leach quarterbacks do in that is put up a ton of yards. I believe another four hundred yard day for him and Jacobson with some laser shot. Some competent throws down the field and the guys actually actually caught it on the other end a big reason. They jumped out thirty eight nothing in that game. Here's the third thing he beach mariners aren't very good but they had a pretty fun little weekend weekend at home against Chicago. First of all Felix Hernandez old school I mean he was excellent. Where did that come from. He's thrown eighty five mile an hour fastballs and getting swings and misses on. I don't even know what was going on. Felix Hernandez and what will be one of his final starts in front of the home crowd here at t mobile park had a heck of a game and then Kyle Lewis has just been the show four home runs already in his young career. He hit another one yesterday as a mariners. Take two out of three from the White Sox Lynn yesterday eleven ten each euro had his the big weekend as well addressed the crowd a five minute retirement speech before Saturday's game. Yes it's been a lot of times. It feels like you just kind of won't end on the other hand. His big retirement came in Japan. I thought this was a good opportunity for him to say goodbye with the fan and be honored and yet it didn't make a whole weekend about him. It didn't feel out out of place. Weekend was much more about young. Kyle Lewis out there doing his thing. I think that's a good good place. In just two weeks left you start to look at the calendar here. The mariners off today they'll go on the road play the pirates and orioles probably six now and then the Astros and the he's come to town to wrap up the season say they possibly could so you know oh maybe they'll end up with that sixth spot that they find themselves in right now in next year's draft but it's been refreshing seek out. Lewis and I'll say what I said last week man they are do they are are do for one of their first rounders to actually be good to actually be a star to actually be a difference maker. You don't have to be picked one one or in the top five if you look at the impact doc players in this league. It sure helps to be a first rounder. He is one of those and he sure looks comfortable. His first week in the bigs are those are three things you need to know of course that is every morning winging at seven ten good point here in the text machine salk. I'm sorry we're this How in the world are there still fields with natural natural grass. Russ almost died all right. Don't feel most died but I thought he had torn his leg apart. Those two stadiums two stadiums by the water right three rivers in Pittsburgh in soldier field in Chicago they in their multi use so the Pitt Panthers play on that field play highschool games just like the soldier field is multi use. It's criminal I wouldn't they play. I have no idea it is. It's someone was asking me about century like why don't they go. Why don't they go because you're sea level. It is impossible and it's a multi. I use facility you don't want to do that and you've got a product that has proven to be successful and and easy yeah and it doesn't seem to matter Kyle Lewis Louis. He just hits it overall. The grass and you know have just ends up in the stance. It's just fine. Let's talk to the Professor John Clayton's morning drive with brock and saw a four way battle and it's only gonNA be three spies. Somebody has to go the first and final word on everything. NFL Professor John Clayton Lake by INFINITI OF TACOMA A coma at five thirty points Jeez the best running team in quick ball plots wildcard. If you can have two attributes of animals what attributes would you choose the gorilla and the face of a lion waits John Clinton's morning drive with rock and Sauk Good Morning John Good Morning Watch on their sixty sixty eight year olds and then there are sixty eight year olds and then there's Pete Carroll and I'm not sure he fits in either of those first two categories. It's amazing now really is I mean he's just remarkable a how young years for his age and how he cherished he is and yeah what a great birthday he had yesterday. We didn't have a good game was that didn't he. Particular have a good game name. I would think so yes yeah because I got the win and secondly again how well the team played on the road in a very difficult situation and and I think a couple of the decisions John Ultimately you get paid the big bucks for when you're a head coach to go for it on fourth and one to not kick the field goal to not punt but to go forward at the end of the game to challenge a couple pass interference calls. I think he knew he was going to lose the first one with Kendricks. In the first half there was very little chance he was. GonNa win that but ultimately gets right with a huge pass interference in the fourth quarter his decision making felt on point yesterday as well yeah really did. I thought that you know be and again. I think just how well all the team was prepared and all that that look good and you know just how how much fun. He just seemed to have a mobile you saw him. At the end of the game I mean you know couldn't be any any happier just with with victory and all that and the decision making all that so no it was a huge one. I know you big band have been close for a couple of decades. You know being now Pittsburgh guys and everything else. Did you ask them. What's going on with his forearm or elbow. No did not deny have a chance to make it over to the and in fact he did not even meet with immediate all after the game. What do you think it was. I don't know because he looked fine. What's that yeah it did but you could see. There's different times where you can see something wasn't right or feel that something they wasn't right stares at the camera and grabs his arm yeah yeah those are the. Times I noticed it of course you know he's as big history three of showing with an injury and all of a sudden you're thinking oh what's going on here and but this one he just didn't come back from so you have to think this one could be pretty bad. I just assumed that if Carson had been stopped on that fourth down he was coming in for the final drive now he wasn't coming back. What was the sideline like with the steelers over there kind of reacting everything talks were thrown at them. just kinda normal. There wasn't any kind of up or down or anything like that. I think you could see that There's certainly a panic not out of panic and they did you could really sense. It's one where you have. You Have Big Ben then you don't have big men and so when he went into the locker room with about two minutes left left in the first half using nothing nothing big here but when you know I then you had you know Mike Tomlin at least saying a little bit. Oh Yeah we've got something on on his arm and then the next thing you know saying okay he's not going to be able to it'll be questionable and then we're going to have to go to in different quarterback. Whoa what's going on here. Did you think that was pass interference. Yes which was the one. They reversed the thirty seven yard lock it. I thought it was yeah. I don't know man I mean. Maybe it is. Maybe it's pass interference and it's a little ticky tack or whatever one problem with a and I've been saying for a long time. I that should not be a thirty seven New York. Penalty does not make sense that that penalty where it's a little iffy where you're going. Maybe it is and it's a second twenty. The quarterback is on the run heaves it across his body thirty seven yards downfield into double coverage and gets bailed out by kind of a ticky tack there has to be away for the NFL to allow that to be a five or ten yard penalty and not always a thirty seven yard well. I mean th that's going to mess with the game too much. I think I still don't like this rule change at all with the reviews and the challenges and all that and what it does it just takes a make it makes you just keep trying to figure out okay what's interference and what's not and it's just too difficult and so now even change it more and particularly if you do it the way that you. WanNa do it. All you're going to have it. Just guys get mugged. It's like if yeah no no no no. It's a thirty seven year penalty. Okay you give the referee an opportunity to make a decision on how serious infraction is the same as they do with roughing versus running into the kicker you you give them an opportunity to use the brains that somebody has given them to decide. You know what yeah you touched them but that's a bailout call and I'm not going to give you a thirty thirty seven yard penalty just because your arms sort of grazed his chest. I just think it's ridiculous well. It's right now too confusing the way it is because again it's so so so scrutinized Nies as to what's going to be a call and what's not going to be a call and then of course you have interference and you can now challenge make different. It's like it's like. Oh if if you keep messing assing with the rules is only going to get worse. It's bad enough as it is is now you're. GonNa make it even worse just where we spend around the NFL and there is lots of news especially on the Injury Front John Ultimately in in the heat and humidity is you're on the sidelines in Pittsburgh yesterday the Seahawks win that game yesterday because they did what well they want it because they were able to stop the run which I thought That's a second consecutive game they've been able to do that. They were able to do it because Russell Wilson. You know made the right place at the right right time made to keep moves you know getting the right place that helped and then I think just their tenacity and being able to do well in the road what's going on with drew brees and be able to play on Sunday. I doubt it. I think that he's GonNa miss some time because they think that spring can be pretty bad. there's some thought again he's in. La Right now he did not fly up here because they're staying here here in Seattle he's staying down there trying to get examined. I think he's GonNa miss and it could be as if it's going to be bad he could take him all the way till the member by the way they got. They got absolutely jogged again by the referee terrible call that is that was awful. Oh how do you feel that dead Walter Anderson get it together. Dude yeah blew the whistle and then of course that hasn't been an eighty seven yard touchdown is the NFC west the best division in football you. I guess you could say that just with the record because you have to two and a teams out there and you know you to not Fran. La Seattle three in Arizona's been both games at least competitive. I I think between the Rams and the and the forty niners. I don't know who's had a better start in division. Now I think you could probably have given the lead there. I mean you could say some good things going on right right now in the NFC north. I mean that could be a division but no I mean San Francisco being particularly getting two wins on the road a member how long has taken for them just one road win in a season. We're GONNA see on Sunday. Yes I think you will I hope so I mean a little bump to see that he wasn't able to go this week and he wasn't even out there in warm warm-ups right in full pads going the week before he was. Did he even try to warm up or was that decision made you think even before they got on the plane. Probably was made before the gun on the plane. Although I don't think so because I think that he was still thinking about it because you look at it and if it a full practice and so then all of a sudden I don't know what time on Saturday they probably we made that decision protecting them and and hopefully it's the right call and hopefully that guy can go you know it is saving them right contractually it there is something to him be an active of about one hundred grand or so per game John. He's one of the forty six active so it's a little bit of money out of his pocket too but I think they they. They didn't anticipate dat but that's one of the reasons they put that clause in there just in case and knowing that he had was gonNA try. He could add the chance of missing a couple games. I think he's still right on schedule. I think what it comes down to right now. It's just a matter of getting him. You know fit for the Games because you know he's missed so much time John. Thank you we will talk to you tomorrow morning. Okay junk link with us every every single morning at seven fifteen who show will start at ten o'clock today and then you always hear him at four o'clock with Dan David Moore as well all right. We talked quite a bit about Pete. We talk a little bit about the defense they are brought but there is one guy one player with three hundred yards to his credit yesterday who had one wail of the game so much so that. I think you're about to say something. You're going to regret taxed axelrod terrific win for US franchises age when when you need it on the road come to Heinz field came across the country today. Eh we had to get the juice so that we play like it was playing at home. It's going to go down the middle reaching up. Catching the end zone touchdown courageous up over the linebacker coverage looted chance against off will phenomenal all day long when bought playmakers let them do the same which they did porn the throat. We'll wait for the second time. Today came up huge third down. He makes a huge play down. The field. Four touchdown touchdown seahawks came back one on one down the Far Side ONS russes. He's do see when he makes a big play. Everybody's rallied hall of fame career. He is having a battle tested today. Don't matter where we got we can go if Doctor Russ you don't. He's on this team. He's he's not on that team. We have resin you don't have Ross and that's awesome for the people in Seattle get to watch the SEAHAWKS team every week and yesterday a nice win going across the country as you heard the dreaded ten. AM starred able to find a way kind of a sloppy game offensively to get it done and seal away victory Brockett Nice Nice win wind from a sloppy game for us yeah sloppy first quarter where they just you just tried to kind of figure out what the defence is going to do later and the pass interference on Michael Kendricks that was Kinda slow. I mean there are some sloppy plays in the game and yet they just had more talent than they overcame them and Russell Wilson at three hundred yards awards and deadly accuracy yesterday's pretty darn good. I have watched every Russell Wilson Start. Have you and we've watched. Well you on your sabbatical. Did he still watch when you're on your Sabbatical Karma. Okay no comment so I have watched every single. Russell Wilson game a pretty darn closely and is now eight year career. He's had perfect passer rating games. He's had much more meaningful wins playoffs and super bowls in that win yesterday but I don't remember ever seen him play better. That doesn't mean the head games where he played just as well. I just have never I don't think I have ever seen him play better than he did yesterday. Mike in every phase of it he got hit early didn't rattle as clock. That's okay you know. I'll take some saks. Line can't pick up line. Stunt flute gets beat clean. I get hit. I take a beating in the first quarter and a half in for most quarterbacks. What does that do. Even the greats Tom Brady now. You gotta hit them. Got A sack him you screw up his clock. It did not mess with his clock at all yesterday. His precision surgical did he miss a throw. How many times even the preseason misanthrope that throw mis-throw. I know I'm nitpicking but he missed a throw. Did he miss throw yesterday. You didn't complete all of them. Miss six thirty five couple throwaways couple of decay were he went back shoulder. One and K didn't win on a go route the did honestly did. He Miss One throw yesterday 'cause I don't think he did in oh by the way his three touchdown passes the the back upright shoulder to will disley the whole shot to d'isly before the safety could come over in then the absolute dime to decay. Eh with no room to throw it on the little inside fade route he was he was surgical yesterday. How `Bout Total Command at the line of scrimmage. Oh you WANNA blitz authorized in your blitz. Oh you're gonNA tried to get me after the snap. I'll take advantage of it again. I thought he was in total control and command at the line of scrimmage saw everything on time and on Rhythm Russell Yeah he's great great but he can't play in Rhythm Russell's awesome but he's got to extend the plays what did you what was the stat that keeps rate at one point nine seconds average. It's time to get the ball out. That was the fastest of any quarterback in a game since two thousand sixteen. Can I remind you when the game matters and it's a situation like a four minute drill against the bengals and he'll tuck it and pull it for six yards on first down to set the whole thing on or how about a four minute drill and you gotta go down and you gotta finally scramble you. GotTa finally a US your legs. You've been just you know patient in patient and patient in only run when you need to run but boy when you do you do unbelievable damage with if it so I just thought in every phase yesterday Mike I don't. He's played as good. I'm not saying that's best game. He's ever played. He has played good and I can rattle off a bunch of them. Carolina Playoff playoff game the game last year. He's had a bunch of where he's played this good but I don't know if he's ever played better in the do it with a new cast where the game was much more on him him in his hands to get the ball out to move the ball that way to be big at the biggest moments and I don't know if I mean he obviously played a great game yesterday. Yesterday I thought it was a sort of quiet three hundred yards from Ross and like I wasn't focused on him throughout the day and maybe it's just that's why it was so impressive he he didn't do anything crazy yesterday. Usually when we talk about Ross having an unreal game it's because he's made three or four plays that just stop your heart. We're just like how getaway right he makes. The Double Spin Ram that he does against Arizona a couple years ago or you know the the ball that drops and he picks back up runs around and finds Tyler Lockett like he did in the playoff off game and Minnesota. It's always one of those plays. You're like Oh my God. I can't believe a human being can do that now. He didn't do anything like that yesterday. He really didn't mean a couple of Nice place. Don't get get me wrong and certainly the touchdown to decay McCaffrey. I'll play right here. This is about as Nice as thorough as you will ever see. A quarterback Russell takes a snap looks farside. He's is gonNA throw downfield. He's got he's got it. Touchdown say okes one on one down the far sideline walk perfect pass by Russell Wilson a twenty eight yard strike. That's number two hundred one touchdowns for Russell Wilson one a hall of fame career he is having and he's got another twenty or thirty years left twenty-seven nineteen the seahawks leading the way just dropped it over shoulder a pretty sweet for all that he made there but he wasn't flashy. Yesterday he was just on rhythm and that that is something we have not generally seen from Russell so I don't know what does that makes it more impressive or like I don't know how to I don't know how to categorize because just haven't seen much of it. He didn't put the ball in jeopardy. Once right. I mean there was not a throw. Usually usually every elite quarterback has thrown to in the game. You're like ooh yeah. He didn't have one of those yesterday. I think most quarterbacks also appreciate the little five yard outs. He was shown on first down. You think that that's an easy throat. That's uneasy. Throw in you'll watch just average quarterbacks even good quarterbacks. I miss him throat high. They'll throw it in the dirt and he could. Ill afford word to miss one of those. It had to be second five second and four to keep things in rhythm. I can only think of one play that made me nervous and that was the little flair play Klay to Chris Carson where he threw it backwards instead of forwards and Carson had to turn around make a crazy catch and he ended up catching it almost in rhythm and turning a field old that one was the only ones I go because if he doesn't catch it that's a fumble and I don't think they've actually take away. They don't make the adjustments week to to last year. They did this year. Remember last year they lose the first two games wasn't until after the game you make adjustments that the Pete and shoddy sit down and say it okay. I got a little too there and you know we. We got to trust a little bit more of the pieces. This is what a year of relationship should do coach Carroll said and cut number four the adjustments adjustments they were able to make then Russell go out and execute. A big part of this progression was a tough ballgame. You know really the penalties and I have really kind of offset. The rhythm that we could would've had a restless phenomenal all day long had a great job moving moving around when he could everybody caught passes a toddler had had a big day but everybody caught balls and disliked good good decay look good and Maliki did well. I mean all those guys are good job and some tough plays on third downs and all that so run the ball hundred fifty you know it wasn't as much as we would like to maybe in some regards but a lot of numbers and so we'll take a numbers yeah bunch of that now. They stand out on offense instead instead of standing out. There was some thinking they were drinking the ball around a little bit yesterday. I hope it's not too excited about it but they kinda dink the ball around yesterday they did and they had to figure out what we'll. Pittsburgh was doing because they were coming downhill. Pittsburgh was blitz and Pittsburgh looked at since he's playing and said okay these edges of the so line especially if Eddie's edge that is one. We've got a stunt. That's one. We've got a blitz. We gotta get after Russell Wilson. Can we hit him early enough in knock him out of his game plan. Knock him out of rhythm. Knock shoddy out of rhythm over there enough enough penalties enough sacks and that is a game that last year you play you don't win week to this is a game a year later with this quarterback with this head coach with this. OC and I think the overall weaponry Mike at his disposal you're able to go into Pittsburg and put twenty eight on the board and salted away so here. You're at heading into week three and week one. Aj Green injured not able to go in week to Ben Rothlisberger hurts himself early not able to return and just being announced few minutes ago Adam Schefter tweeting being the drew brees is expected to undergo thumb surgery as early as today he would be expected to be on the sidelines at least Sarah approximately six weeks while while per league sources so no breeze and a likelihood when you take the field on Sunday against New Orleans pretty crazy all right time furlough kors lights blew forty forty two brock and I'll ask you about this Chris Carson deal because as good as he's been you can't fumble not twice in a game and not thrice in two games what the heck doc is going on with Carson and Kennedy fixed. That's next Brockton Salk. These coors light blue forty eighteen tight close sprint lift g you corner halfback onto by forty two is brought to you by coors light bay to shell forty two now. Here's your host brought hewer and Mike Salk Joe football questions for Brock always a lot of fun coming off a Seahawks win like today of course we'll talk to carol here person coming up at nine thirty this morning morning brock. Let's start here question number one Chris Carson three fumbles two weeks. Does he ever fumbling problem and if so is it fixed yeah he has a fumbling problem right now because it's all about the ball remember the number I gave you last week as far as giveaways and turnovers and that was that was eleven for the entire season last year this team turn the ball over eleven times. He had three fumbles all of last season or two in either a two or three fumbles. All last season lost neither of them so yes. This is the problem the ball. It gets a little bit loose. The first one was absolutely on Him. Coach Carroll asked a similar question about the fumble late in the game. I do buy into similar. Coach says here though the second fumble was we we we cut a guy loosening hit on the exchange. That's that's not his fumble but he didn't get one knocked away and we gotta get we gotta get business right there and get that out of our football but no there was nobody nobody. I was going to but Chris Right there and that one was interesting situation. You know we wanted to go there. Though we had decided that was just a matter of how we're going to do it and as a good call a fantastic job the other guys up front just nothing most of all to get that first win a game that last one was Russell. It was part Chris. It was part play call. It was all those guys they all share a bite of that fumbled pie right right there that the rest has may be gotta see that and get rid of it that Chris has got a feel it may be protect his body immediately the other to the other two on Chris Carson. Yeah the other two are on that ball being a little bit way being a little bit yeah that is fixable and you know how it's really fixable do it again. You can see Penny and precise play like that. That's how it is most fixable. Is You gotta understand man. It is all about the ball. It's not trying too hard charge for another three feet. There are times where you have got to in my cavity into game against the bengals angles right when he broke out and you and I both same thing held our breath that balls away from his body these guys in this league it is so hard to take the ball away so the six inch punches right the violence they go for ripping that ball away T. J. Watt with that just uppercut punch to knock that ball loose. It's hard enough when you've got good ball security. You're in real trouble when you don't so yeah. That's got to be remedied question number two begin. Chris Carson and you heard me talk about it. They did end up bringing bringing back any sat for a little while brought him back in for four in one he ends up picking up the first down to seal the game why did that. Why did that call work because it played to everybody thirty strengths everybody strikes and big rates tweeted this at some point yesterday and he was right. Please run downhill. You know when you get in that shotgun and and I know you get a half man advantage in Russell keeps. Maybe get a full numbers advantage and you like it on the Whiteboard but when you've got fluke and you've got you potty and you got bread and you've got fan and you got Dwayne and you've got a battering ram behind played all their strengths right. Just just let them create movement as long as there's not penetration Mike. You're going to get three feet feet and I don't know how you defended. It'll be very interesting over the course of the season to watch how different defenses game plan for those short yardage situations against the Hawks because because if you put everybody up in the gap and guess wrong and they do a little zone read now. There's an opportunity of a big play. If you don't and you allow a double team go back and watch the tape of that go back and watch not a copy. They showed again. Watch you potty in Brit. I think rendezvous said posted wasn't posted at that time you potty was back in thankfully watch those two hugh man literally lift at three hundred thirty pounds stump out of the ground airborne absolutely the nose tackle gets airborne on that double team and and you win once that happens you win because Chris is GonNa get below you know underneath them and drive with those legs and that's GonNa be a really difficult play to defend our question number. Three seahawks scored seven points in the first half twenty one points in the second have what changed that set you read about. Russell getting the ball out one one point eight seconds and it wasn't just a little bubble screens right. It was get the ball out on some slant to get the ball out on some counts. Get the ball out to your running backs. I think spreading the field really horizontally whereas on early in that way getting the ball out of his hands because Pittsburgh was giving you while they were blitzing in bringing people they were giving you some soft cushion. They were baking you to think the ball off right there there are times as an offensive as a QB. You've got to be willing to just take that little five yard out and be content with that right that you're not gonna just wear it down. You're not can you just take a shot. But are you going to be. Don't don't kid yourself pizza it to us yesterday. People listen to the show around the country. you know there there's Scouts Scouts and folks in every in NFL personnel department. That's going to listen to the head coach's press conference or if he has daily show somewhere all around is the seahawks listen into their opponents and when Pete says yeah man. I'm not into thinking the ball around right I want to run. It and I want to throw haymakers then. What does the opposing team's GonNa do okay if you're not in the thinking. That's one thing we're going to give up. We're GONNA commit people to stop you run. We're not gonNA. Let you throw haymakers because we're going to bring extra defenders but are you going to be patient enough to think the ball in take the hitch in take the out. Take the flat and take those little five yard crumbs that eventually lead to the cookie and yesterday that was a definitive yes in the second half of football aw that's. Today's course lights blew forty two it is interesting to see that adjustment from them and I'm curious. Pete won't tell us but whether or not that is a new Philosophy v whether they're willing to make that change or whether it hey we better put this on paper so that when we get to some of the other games over the course of the year people at least respect the five yard hitches you just say what is he going to say Miami. I always taught you. We're adaptable right. I said that I have always told you seek for balance. He has not said that Michael. I've always told you you've gotta take what the defense gives you okay so he's not sick how many tattoos that's not it. It's obvious now it's obvious obvious in a cat and you have got to be willing to take what the defense. That's a great workout when he was disagreeing. What were we talking about is obvious as you can get. It's not like get some mystery. That's obviously a good one. The other one just makes me. That's not kyle. What was that you got the photograph. What was that about why cut it on one eighteen two thousand eighteen one eighteen eighteen yeah. I think on that one after the cowboys eighteen that's at the end of the season because they didn't make the playoffs playoffs yeah. That's a weird oh that was weird date. Maybe it was from a week or two earlier earlier who knows text seven tenths seventeen. If you reject Bob and Tom and your they'll figure out what the talk in talk show. What was that? I don't remember that either. Prescott what remember any of these things but you mentioned on their about Russel's the bronx all right shouts in that you write that down for these takeaways. Do you remember yesterday. What do I remember we live. At least I was up for the whole game takeaways coming up next Brockett salt.

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Three Drink Minimum #4: Never in doubt

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Three Drink Minimum #4: Never in doubt

"Yeah. Fourth episode during minimum pike cash. Today's drink of choice. A nice, Chris diet Dr Pepper. All right. So. Big win. Well, I wouldn't say big win, but I would say much needed win twenty nine twenty seven over the forty Niners started off about as poorly as you could imagine. Man. Six to start us off Pont and they missed field goal in. They gave him the cuts down. So out of the gate fourteen oh, and I, I feel like this was exactly how that that last game. I think it was a Thursday night game play the forty Niners few years back started out fourteen, oh, they came back, but the difference here was and even with the forty Niners having some success, I never really felt like the charges were ever really in jeopardy. I never really felt like while they're gonna lose his game. Did they give a bunch of plays? Yes, sure. They make a lot of mistakes. Of course, they are the chargers and we will talk about those mistakes, but the enough to win man. And if they're playing in January, nobody's going to remember, oh, they barely beat the forty Niners who cares they won. And that's what matters. So. We just kind of go down the the frame of the game and talk about some of those steaks. Some of the the obvious mistake. Some of the good place where we can start is I feel like where we have to start is the kicking situation. And that was one of the worst performances that I can imagine. Just when they were showing when they were showing Sturges miss in the pre-game flight from there should have been right. We're just gonna go for it every that's that alone should have told you they should have aggressive metality. But as you guys saw, man, I don't know of George. Stewart just doesn't tell them is not honest with them. What he looks like in pre-game or what just because his kicks weren't even really close, but, oh, well, they go for it and they kicked a fifty four yard. I believe it was after he's missing all those. Pre-game kicks Sturgis MRs two extra points. You can just tell his confidence completely shot, man. So we will see. I pretty sure that he is not going to make it pass tomorrow. I don't know who they're gonna. Sign should have signed Dan Bailey a couple couple of weeks ago when he was available. I know that I was out pretty surprised that, oh boy, watching the raiders game live and they just missed field goal. Goodness, gracious man. A game's gonna end in a tie anyways. So remember a couple of weeks ago and the game didn't. There are the kick matter, but it wasn't like they probably would have lost the game anyways when they basically ran on, rushing Sturgis was trying to kick that fill the Kinsey chiefs, and he missed it. And a lot of people were, you know, hey, the there was no time left to excuse him from that. First of all, he's a professional kicker, and second of all, it's not like they don't practice those type of situations. He has to be ready at all times. Yes, one job has one job is to the ball that right there like just tells you what type of kicker he is under pressure. There is no reason to keep him around because I mean, if you're just looking ahead looking into the future of valuating person that's going to tell you, okay, this is probably not our guy moving forward. Sure. Enough. They stick with him. He misses more kicks today against any good team. The the kick city miss today was would probably cost them. Luckily they're not going to face a quote, unquote good team, even though they're gonna face teams with winning records. There ought to worry about that. But yesterday he's gotta go, he's going to go. I know it's low hanging fruit to talk about him, but it's tough man. He. Other things. Okay. I'm just writing stuff down or making jot down. Little notes as game was going along often equity being his first touch until three minutes to go in the first half he didn't. I think they gotta mccarey not the, he'd I'm pretty sure. You went for like four yards, something like that. Okay, I have right here. So as far as carry, you went for seven yards. Anyone for one yard and his third touch was the touchdown, a twenty two yarder. I don't know what I don't know that I wonder if they think that, oh, because one person's doing good, that means we can't give the boss of the other person and vice versa. But like Gordon play well, like the the spin, the fumble that was atrocious. But like Gordon played very well. That doesn't mean that you can't just use Ecuador on the field or just find ways to get him the ball use as a receiver and they did that, but it took five drives to do that. I just I've no idea. They need understand understand quick that he is one of their best offense of weapons to me is the most exposed player on offense. I don't think that's necessarily close, but just because like, I guess my regional point is just because Gordon was having a really good game. That doesn't mean you. Can't get them all the equa, but we'll see, man, I imagine there'll be some more adjustments when Keenan Allen without equerry went into like the slot. That was cool to see in. I hope that hopefully that is a thing using him as a receiver more. So we'll see how that goes. A somebody else wrote down is, okay. So coming into the game, it was the forty Niners. Littered have two players that you have to worry about Brita and kill like that. Those are their only options that I feel I if I feel like that, I imagine the charges are pretty confident that you know they don't have many weapons. So Rita off to actually did a good job overall Brita. Finish way. Three catches for thirty two yards. Even though one of those for twenty and he had nine carries for thirty nine yards. So good job of Mesa. Gli limiting, I would say limiting brio overall, but he did have a couple of those chunk plays what they did not do. A good job of is on KIRO and they actually put Derwin on in which was a solid injustice -ment. I was wondering how go with Kaiser out because usually Kaiser takes tied in and done a really good job, but with him being hurt today, the adjustment instead of us was Derwin and that was fine. But I mean, there's just a that long. Long. Touchdown was joke. I, I, I think I saw people blame it on Emmanuel, but that wasn't on a male you made. And I would be more than happy to show a video of that. It was a die and a die looks on playable bogut there. They just didn't take away. Kitto and you're not gonna double team Kitto, but there just has to be whoever's guarded him which was during and then somebody whether it is a die or Phillips or whoever, whoever the other safety is just giving him extra attention and make somebody else beats. You make them throw the ball the ball to Casey, Hayward, like that's a good thing. That's what you want didn't happen, and they pay for man. He had. He ended up having. Could've went six for one twenty five and obviously that eighty two yarder play big part in that, but he caught six zero targets and it felt like whenever they did on the ball, it was just going for whether is a chunk player I down. So different still isn't taking away the teams best player. And even when you have a backup quarterback and you want him to be you man. You just have to do, then we didn't see that. So that was a little bit concerning to me. Question here. Thanks by the way. Guillaume. Oh, Gimmie can't pronounce your name. Sorry. Videos. Yeat says, does the team win if it was Garoppolo instead as a question, man, I actually have not was not impressed with Jimmy g. just over the course of the last three games. And honestly, I thought better did a really good job just like escaping sacks just getting out of harm's way, ensure there is couple times held the ball too long, but I'm not. I'm not so sure that they do. I'm sure that the forty Niners are a little bit more aggressive, but I, I don't. I don't think so. I really don't think that that do Jimmy g. put the ball up in harm's way quite a bit just like Beth did today as well. And there's a couple of them. I remember early in the game where seemed like the ball went right off Paramount's facemask where I thought he'd interception, but not. It really didn't seem the game plan is just how the forty Niners play really didn't seem to different than what they do with Jimmy g. a.. Third, finished the game twenty three thirty seven two hundred ninety eight yards. He finished with two picks, even though that were show one. Man. I wonder if we're shell doesn't catch that. If it's ruled a sack fumble for der win, that would have been fun. But the other interception obviously, but I thought, Beth. Third, I didn't think bettered played like terribly. I think for a backup QB played very well. Then again, chargers didn't have much pass rush you. He has. He had pretty much all day back there other. Oh, okay. Something else I feel like it's it was obvious last year that does king was like the most consistent returner and I spoke about that a little bit weak one, and it was nice that he broke that long woman. He, it looked like it was funny just because it looked like he was running through water, looked like he was running so slow on that return. But he shook the planner, a punter they should have gotten there should have been a tripping call that was kind of BS it. He, he clearly reaches leg out. But does has type of quickness that you want as a returner man, he's he's pretty allusive and on like a lot. It was cool as good to see. And hopefully, I mean, I like that they gave Jones another chance even after fumbling, but he just he didn't do anything in the games. Mass was time to move on and they gave put does back there and does does Brooklyn today. So that was good. That was good to see why or how does the defense look this bad? Well, I, I don't know if you wanna say it's because of joy Boza, but they rush four live in. It's it's pretty tough to stop boatswain Ingram at the same time. But what we're seeing is just no pressure at, Aw, Ma Melbourne's digress back to Mr. almost t same thing today. He he though one the one time where he like really, really beat his man spun back inside and hey, just he had that. We're no bathroom got hurt. Actually, he he had him wrapped up in everything better got out there and then case, hey, relate the big hit on him. Others not getting pressure. They're not being aggressive to one thing that I think that. What that I think is pretty obvious is that when they do get pressure, whether it's Ingram, both whoever else that the secondary's lot more. And I think that because the secondary isn't as aggressive. Or that the pressures not there. The secondary's kind of playing one, their heels in and not with the same kind of confidence. We saw last year and it's hurting them when it comes to turnovers. So I think it's all playing hand in hand in it starts at the top with the number ninety nine. But I mean, you can't just you can't rely on one player to make that much of an impact. Man. It's tough. Twenty six point often coverage all the time looks like by keep seeing him get beat. Yeah, he, he did a. He got a couple of times today, man, the touch on the touchdown. A one of the I think was I don't know if it was the first down or not. On that play though in that's another playwright almost dot video of it died just got caught no-man's-land I'll he was supposed to help Hayward to the inside. He doesn't help them. And here we are, but that's still not for Hayward. You beat like both things can happen. A Hayward didn't do anything and got beat. He says. Are the call? Are the corners this mediocre without both? They really might be man. There's it's tough. It really. They're just not as just I, it goes back to what I'm saying. They're just not very aggressive and we're, we're seeing it trickle down. Basically, all the way tells Joshua as maybe still heard from camp. Yeah, I would imagine. So they had that had that other Airbus add that second injury on the same vote, which is crazy. Somebody asked me today. Do you think that Bosa is faking in. Do you think that this is him being in control? Much like he did with the contract situation. I think that's pretty shitty accused the player doing. I don't think that's the case at all a ya as what do we do about the kicking situation drop Sturgis and pick up another kicker, stop kidding. Phil, an extra points. I don't know what the percentages are, but I would imagine by now that the charge would probably be a lot more successful onto points or these fourth in threes or less fourth and four zero less and give them a chance to score touchdown. If anything, a more makeable field goal like those fourth and six and he elected to kick the future four yarder I thought it was a no brainer just because you're no man's land and you saw him miss in pre-game. So I would be more aggressive until proven otherwise end unless you unless there's not very confident they're shore yard situations or. They feel like they don't have good to point place, but it just seems like I mean, why would you keep putting the ball in the kickers hand? Why would you let the kicker decide the fate of of your team after you guys were so hardy down there? So he's I think he's going to us about that touch on that a little earlier. There's just no reason to keep Sturgis around. Honestly, nothing is going to really change. The replay of him missing in pre game in them going for was. Embarrassing and was man. It was joke, and I touch touch on that a little early to thoughts on Derwin place so far in chances for defensive rookie of the year. So during during pretty good, I don't think anybody would disagree with that. He just had the play. The basically won the game with when he came on blocked and hit the quarterback. He hit hit. Bettered earlier for what was in play, where he hit him pretty hard. I was an interception we're you. What happened? Something happened where he hit him. But I mean he, he's always, he's always in the back the backfield when he blitzes maze. Really good Blitzer times really well, he super fast and he closes, but it's more about that. He's, we were saying today we saw some open, Phil tackling. We saw him get some depth in coverage and like look like eight a football player, and we, we don't see other safeties on the team doing that chancellor chances are pretty good for defense rookie year. He's going to have to keep racking up. Sachs is likely going to have to pick up some more flash plays like interceptions also think it'll help if the charged keep winning. So that'll be big deal as well. But I mean, there's a bunch of guys that are making plays. Denzel ward make plays dairies. Leonard looks good for the calls linebacker who else? My missizng. I'm sure there's a ton other defense rookies. As far as the schedule without bosses. So one, if there are four games that if they're four games that you want boasted missed, it would be today's Gambians a backup quarterback next week against the raiders. And I say this as they have forty two points, there's not very consistent and obviously both of you on both of the play any game, but the raiders rid of the boss, oh, fast. Like everything is screen, three stab, throw deep. Whenever that you're, you're okay with him missing that at also just because the often should be able to have their way with the raiders defense, and then you go titans and Browns. Those are those are. These are definitely the the next four games. These are the games that you would want to miss earth. If you could pick, you would want both myths. So Yaki feel pretty good about that. And I know. There schedulers supposedly easy, but just as he works back in the second half, they should hopefully go on a little run and we see some good things going on here. What else did I have written down here all yet? So the defense disputing the defense in Bosa bend. It's not even like a bend, but don't break. It's Aben. But like if you look at a bowl at cracks little bit down the side but doesn't break they are. I don't know what's going on with him and they're just not making plays. I guess that's the best way to put it there in situations where they can make plays and it's just not happening this year. Let me see on some of the team stats on so. So the forty Niners were five of twelve on third down today. It really didn't feel like team. Was that successful? What is that like for forty, seven percent a the forty Niners average six point two yards of play in b. They were in red zone there one from four in the red zone. So that's that's crazy. It doesn't seem lows. Numbers. Don't seem like the chargers played that. Well, what it helps. Obviously, when you get that long, touched that long interception that they had from Casey, haywar that earn not Casey. Trevor Williams. And then obviously the Rokkasho interception, but still it just felt like the forty Niners had a lot more success than. Than those numbers indicate the titans look good. I don't. I'm not sure if they look good, man. I, I know they they make plays, which does matter they may place in Maryland did look Saad from what I saw today. I was watching red zone pretty much the second half miss the first half of the early games, but I wouldn't say that the titans scare me on definitely say that I would. I would want to face the titans as opposed to one of these other AFC teams. Let me see what else did I write down here? Oh, running backs in the passing game. Ecuador's first touchdown him in the passing game lineup, why Melvin Gordon down near the red zone down the goal line. They run a little route where he runs to the sideline and men's it back in as almost like a James pivotal route type that was nice to see. And then of course, there's going to be checked downs here and there check downs all over the place. But I thought today was good that there are plays in the playbook where you have you have routes you have running backs, run actual routes and not just these these little check down. So. That's good to see. And hopefully that continues because still, I mean on when I mean when I say this, I mean from a consistent basis that just the threats on the perimeter aren't really there. Man, we, we saw tyrel have that one deep catch were he basically caught it over some new talent that was good. But other than that, not much from him, Mike Williams. One catch today. Keenan had seven catches, but as for sixty three yards, it still seems like the two. I will always say that Ecuadoran Gordon seem like two of the better threats on the team, so it makes more sense to get them just get them more involved in the passing him having run routes. And especially if guys miss, like if kina goes out with a little stinger like he did fill free used Gordon Ecuador in his as replacement. Do you think the play of Denzel has been overrated lately? I think he has been whipping in run support and has never been stronger in Passey. So I do think that he's been inconsistent on pass defense for sure. I feel like he played well. He played better last game, but I do agree though there. I think some players are living off their pass, and I think case air one goes, I think it's okay to be like. Very, very, very good player in four games this year. Casey Hayman has not play. Well, that is a fact I feel like that is okay to okay, say and yet Denzel same whitens Opara may he missed? So he was definitely with being the first two games. I want to say. I don't really remember how he played last week just because Rams word just doing whatever they want to. I'm going to rewatch the game and check back in with you about how he did today. But I do. I do think he's just playing slower. I don't know, man, I don't wanna say it goes back to both of everybody's just taking a huge setback with Bosa. And when you isolate paramount and coverage, just like over the middle, it's not great. And I think we saw more of Kaiser entertainments last week. I do remember that now, but he he's not. He's not as aggressive in the run game unless it is like third in one where he can just come flying downhill, but usually go side to side. He's he's usually getting caught by Lyman. I don't really like that man, but you know, that's a good point. I'm glad you brought that up. I think playing some of these guys are living off their past and just not being held accountable, whether it's by us or whether it's by. The coaching staff, I would say that sticking defense at this point and I, I mean, this meanness with the bottom, my heart that you will die has become unplayable. I mentioned the first. I mentioned the first touchdown. I thought he got caught in no man's land. He's just he felt replenish fake and he basic, I don't wanna say, hung out to dry because Hayward was beat, but use the help in the middle of Phil and he was he had one job in. He had one job and he had one threat and he couldn't find that one threat. The plays that he can make. I guarantee my high school, free safety would've made that play and the same on kill with that long. That long touchdown, I saw people dog Emmanuel, but he ran to the middle of Phil and dies in the middle of the Phil. And I had nobody. Like if you watch the play, there is no other place for him to be. But right on Kitto he's nor where needs to be and they pay for it man. He could catch it. Oh, which was bad at self. So I would say a die is as as unplayable as it gets you guys watch the game last week he he had to miss four, five tackles like he was with being coming up out of control reckless. It was it's so painful to watch him. Ella makes it worse is that they're not gonna do anything about. He's not going anywhere at least right now, you ways Bosa literally went to the doctor Anderson. I don't think you go to one of the best doctors in the country in less you're actually injured. Right? All right. Yet people I got that got ask that on the radio by was NBC sports and they asked me, do you think Bose's faking his injury to be in charge? That's some mouse man? Is it time? Did it worried about lamp not seeing any playing time? What is going on with that? Man? He must have like zero athleticism where he must not be able to move, or he must be in practice getting dogged by dairies Filon and even Justin Jones and wherever else they have because I don't get it man. That the line has been so bad that you would think there would be a change made, but when Oko got hurt today, they and when barks oh, got her to win Tevi guy last week or when a Coon got hurt last week as well. They put in Scott and they're comfortable with that. So maybe they just don't view. Maybe they don't view lamp as a tackle. Maybe they only view him as a right guard and not a left guard. So they want him to play right guard only and because show fueled has been solid like he really hasn't been bad at all. They're not going to put lamp in the game. So from I have no idea what he looks like physically after his injury. So he could very will have no exposure, no movement skills or just lack of power, whatever it is. But I'm wondering if that is. Thing. Like if it's because. They, they view lamp as strictly a right guard only which is such a flaw, train of thought considering. I mean, as we know, just from charge fan, all the injuries that happen a you would think that he would be they would let him play. There's let him play both guard and tackle. So I do think it is time to get worried just because he hasn't played and I thought that he would get some run in the bills game, knowing that it would be a blow out. I thought they might have active today thinking it would be a block. It wasn't, but just to get him some reps. But yeah, they're not getting. You're not even getting giving him any game reps in the first four games. That is pretty pretty worrisome. I would say for sure. Next year next draft, you rather have a free safety to let Darren stay in the box or DT to finally get some interior pressure. I will take a defensive tackle every day of the week over a safety for sure. I actually think. And I know that this is a lot make a lot of sense based off what has happened this year, especially in the big plays that they've given up. I think for safety like that deep safety position is one of the more overrated positions in the sport just because. You can only make so many players from that position and then naturally your minds to what about Earl. Thomas will newsflash not every team has an Thomas Earl. Thomas comes around like once a decade. So I don't know. You just impact the game from that position. I think, yeah, they you about detangle, man. They are getting no push. They're getting no stops and they just have they just have bodies out there. They're not even these bodies aren't even doing anything. So. Offseason detangle has to be a top priority. That's for sure. A dye is captain miss tackle Yemen, his struggle. He is a struggle. What about all line? Any update on Okuno. I have not heard anything. I, I'm sure that something will come out in the press conference or unless I'm missed it. I don't know if anybody else knows this, but as of right now, as of not even an hour after the game has been over a, we do not know any updates on Oku. Hopefully he'll he'll be back they, they definitely can't afford to miss him. The worst part is that we could have had me cooker plus their James instead of Mike Williams. Yeah, man. I mean, certainly you can do that with a lot of teams, but it seems like. A Tesco didn't value that position like that deep deep position, but more in inbox linebacker underneath guy that can do it all. And so had like the draft board, they didn't have. They had Jamal Adams over only cooker, so that kind of backs and Djibril peppers, which is crazy to think about. But that kind of tells you that maybe that gives us a little insight on what toss go thinks about these deep deep safeties, compare men's poor performance, be tribute to bad defensive tackle play. Yeah, I think so. For sure. I would say there are there are plays where the centers just completely untouched and getting a free run at the linebackers which I mean, that's not great. There's is in a position where he should be obliviously run, clean on a lot of these plays or get get into one situation. And it's just not happening. Man. He but I do. I do think at the same time he he is a little bit more passive and maybe that changes when leisure comes back, maybe it is going to be motivated more than ever maybe Leauge it is going to play like he played last year. So yeah, we never know Benjamin tries. She went out after being tackled, man. I, I swear. He was on the field for like four plays and then we never saw him again. So, yeah, only got hurt too. I do like Mike Williams even though even with a one catch today. I mean, it's hard. It's hard to get mad at Mike Williams just because whenever they seem to cause number man, he makes plays and can't ask for much more than that. So yeah, we talked about Melvin Ingram spin. Almost almost sack guy was more that today. He should have like he probably should have four sacks this year. If if I remember that. Right, okay, into the game or let's talk about some of the other coaching spots. So third-down was third in five. I believe third and fourth hundred five about the score. Call, they call the screen to gates. First of all, the announcer calls at scissors which scissors is when you run down the field. One guy runs a post. One guy runs a corner out. They had it wear keyed in is in the slot. He goes to pick gates. Gates comes underneath his man and goes for a screen. So the announcer was killing me today. Man, he's used butchering so much stuff, but I don't know. That's usually a play call that you call unlike the one yard line which they've actually had some success to both Keenan and gates and whoever else tyrel. They, they actually got some cheap touchdowns last year off that play. So it's a pretty familiar play that they do. I think they, they ran it about five yards too far out. I don't think that gates is the guy that you run that to either. So it just took him. Basically what happened was gates was a little too slow, which makes sense. And he couldn't. I mean, the corner just jumped it. I don't know. I don't know how on third and six or whatever. It was third in a couple yards. Certain few yards thirty, a handful yards net that is your place. You want all the ball games on third down, which is a great idea. Let him run in the end zone and uses old man speed to get open old man by whatever he does get open, leans on dudes. But yeah, the screen and expecting Keenan to get all the way out there. That's tough call, man. Wasn't there. Third and long draw plate near the red zone. I don't know what that was. Was their third long draw play near the reservoir. I don't. I don't remember that. I'm sure there was because there is a lot wrong with the coaching on both sides of the ball, including the decision making, but. Man. We've been waiting for Legia to play motivated for the past four years. Yeah, that's true. Man, it's that ship sailed on him at first. I thought leisure. We'd be better when they got Bosa just because they had two guys on the edge. Now add in happen and last year we saw him fade fade fehb. I'm of Mike Williams this year, but I can't look at him without thinking of who the chiefs in Texas pick that year. We're not gonna talk about that. I do not want to get sad. I think it's pretty obvious. I thought it was obvious that got into like so many arguments with this. So with allegis lump people in line that passionate homes is gonna be very, very good. And, and you can tell by the way that he was playing at Texas Tech, that if he didn't play hero ball, his team was not going to win, and people were chalking it up to terrible decision making and this and that like no man, he's trying to win the game. Andy Reid is coach out himself. Course Adam homes, and I mean there's a mechanic mechanic's of Mahomes fixed, but he's mad and they look pretty pretty good. Yeah, that's true. I agree with that. Each says are, there are so many picks that would have been better. But I mean at this point, wounded team and this year you can argue that Williams has looked like the best receiver on a team, so tough to be mad at him. So there's a screened gates. And then at the very end of the game, the punt on fourth and one this, this'll be the last thing we talk about. So the pawn on fourth and one twenty nine to twenty seven, I believe it was and they have marched the ball. So they had been the forty Niners had had much success on offense in the second half. I mean, had the big play at some big plays, but nothing real consistent Alomar's about take off. Oh, never mind. All right. Back to where we're talking about so forth. And would you are inside the forty yard line? And I'm pretty sure it's fourth one. Let me double check that. I'm pretty sure it was for the one. But you have the ball inside the forty yard line. You can punt the ball and pin the forty Niners deep, which shirt go for it. Even though they had what they had scored on four five, their drives and through turn the ball over down there. Once. Did not agree with that at all, but okay, four, the one. Let's see what we got here. Orthon one on the thirty seven yard line and keizer has a good point. Pens, side, ten. Down by fourth and one inside the thirty seven or you can put the ball in the hands of your best player your quarterback and get one yard. You trust. I trust the quarterback who was probably gonna go the hall of fame at some point to get one yard to get you in a call that will get you one yard that way. There's no pressure on the defense to get a stop, and I know that they had to go ninety three yards and I know that they could put him on the one and it will look like a great call, but it's a, it's a league where that is designed for the offense to get chunk yards. Even teams that have backup quarterbacks like you saw today can get junkyards and move the ball that's just going to happen. So if you just play the numbers game play, judge, look at your office, having feel for the game, see how you're doing it. And the charge had moved the ball pretty well. Allow ravens such now the charge that move the ball pretty well and it'd been pretty easy. I thought, sure that didn't convert down in the red zone show that didn't you know here and there they had some bad play caused, but moving the ball wasn't a problem. Getting one yard wasn't going to be a problem. I thought, and I thought that they could have done a good job. I is eating the game right there and I just from a coaching standpoint, I would feel so much better if I wasn't able to get one yard and they drove what sixty yards sixties three yards from there as opposed to me punting the ball and my defense, my defense give up a ninety, three yard driver. What if you punt the ball there, which is happened? Plenty of times he shanks it and they drive eighty yards instead of ninety three yards or even worse. There's the variables that can happen there as opposed to you giving the ball to your best player where most of your best players on the team or on offense. Getting the ball in their hands for one yard, and you can try the ball there. I don't know, man, there's some some shaky decisions and somebody told me that they did it -gree with. They did agree with the call to go forward and put the hands. Their defense didn't. But I, I mean, I guess I get where you're coming from where the train of thought it lies. They're just backup quarterback, but he'd had so much success throughout the game and they been able to move the ball, whether it was these chunk plays to kill or just dig it in donkey. Eventually I felt like they were going to get back to where the charger in go for anyways and actually think that they did before that how close they get before that interception. Okay. So bettered veteran through that interception quote, unquote interception when you see by James on the thirty one yard line and the chargers punted the ball on the thirty seven yard line. So he was, hey, he fumbled in it. Rochelle caught in those interception, but I don't know, man. I think. Pretty much no brainer. To me. They don't play the numbers game. They don't have an analyst department remember? Yeah, they, they don't have a lot. I, we're talking about that some something guys talking about that last week late last week, just how the if you like Google the chargers website in like all their coaching staff and you Google another team, see how many different coaches they have charged really don't have a lot, which is pretty crazy. Like we have a quality control coach on is our coach, the charges like don't have that quality control guy that's gonna do like analysts or something. It's pretty amazing, man, but good news is got to win. Who who's player the game today? Who do you say. I would imagine most people would say Derwin. I don't wanna say Darren because it feels like that's all I talk about his home. So I'll say Melvin Gordon because your homes averaged seven yards of pot look, good, run the ball, even though even if they were some some more well-designed. But he has some runs where he's broke, like four or five tackles pretty. That's pretty nice. Also pitched in seven catches. So yeah, I'll go with Gordon with obviously growing would say, Germans runner up rivers, poor start what he was cooking there for a little bit at the for a little bit right after that. I I drive. I think he went fourteen for sixteen after that and really settled in there was a stretch their in third quarter. We try to do a little too much, but he got back in. So that was nice, man. So good game one. It was if anything, man, we always know it's going to be entertaining, and today was entertaining. So at the raiders on deck. Check if man famous to the raiders puke or a talk so much so much to me but can't be having that they do have Sturgis who kicked the game winning field goal in VP make sense for me. You know what's going to happen now is that Sturges made that and they're gonna justify that by keeping him that he's clutch and he's going to be the kicker for the rest of the year. That's all I got. Thanks for hanging around. Boys charged win. Can't cana-. Can't be too mad at that Minamata who they play wins. Wind got a real off a few in a row just to get a little head of steam here. They have a scheduled to do it. There's no, there's really no reason. There's really no reason that charge should win these next three games to we'll see Manso. Team.

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Week 6 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

28:54 min | 10 months ago

Week 6 (Part 2)

"It's time to eat four sit down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe Dolan we now on the fantasy feast eight and podcast let's e maybe it is the fantasy feast it's actually ranks it they know what your accuracy is the vice comes in almost simultaneously when you post it noon Sushi at midnight ibuprofen Ten am breakfast Burrito at eight PM. 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need anytime you needed once you create a poll each person who votes or comments has it credibility score out other websites out there determined for you the experts are polls unload the APP on Io's or Android for free browse local restaurants and businesses track your delivery in real time here's the deal though AH when we're recording this we don't know Cayo used checks status what do you have for me on the niners well you must love kyle the Ross because he's like the last bastion of of twenty one personnel in the NFL and so as Kyle Shanahan so this is actually kind of an important injury I know people are kind of making fun of it but Shanahan uses that twelve that twenty one twenty two personnel to his advantage to designing the run game and look we saw it on Monday night against the browns what we have right now though with the forty niners in their backfield we have kind of a supercharged version of Oh I feel better about a bat Breda and Tevin Coleman Brita was actually the guy in this backfield who got all the targets at least for the running back position he what we see in Denver where you have Lindsey and Freeman and you're not really sure which one to use or which one to rank higher any given week it's just a better offense so ed three targets and eleven carries against the Browns on Monday night Coleman had nineteen carries a no targets and even he most had seven carries a no target so the clarity of what they're gonNA do at wide receiver and we just didn't not a single wide receiver on this squad played more than sixty three percent of the snaps that's really just not getting it done right now I think all of their receivers maybe with the exception of Markey's Goodwin are droppable and nobody can be played right now night but Brita and Coleman or the two guys on focusing on with the edge to Breda if I was choosing between all three okay let's talk kit on the receivers all the receivers I wish we could come out of week number of the week number four by and gotten a little bit virtually unheard of the only two teams in the NFL who are really doing that right now or the forty niners and the Ravens and really the Ravens have Hollywood Brown who's the only playable win against this these rams who have really struggled against the pass I just don't know who I would trust it would only be guessing game at this stage Breda to me he is a lower to mid level rb to Tevin Coleman on upper end flex plant and regime most is not usable right now now those those three guys actually split the snaps pretty much right down the middle up we have thirty four percent for Brita thirty four percent for Coleman at thirty two percent for most on Mondays receiver and the forty niners don't have one who is playable I wish I could tell you like I thought Deebo Samuel was the guy I would most most like to have here but unfortunate okay let's get to the rams they have had some extra time it'll be interesting game because the niners short week rams extra time for this game who are you looking at that's huge for Robert Woods who really hasn't gotten going and with Brandin cooks suffering his third documented concussion at this point I don't know I would consider him questionable at best for this game even though he suffered it on Thursday night so this could be a big time bobby woods game yet him back in and going against he has been so special he's like an anchor for lineup you can consider playing him each and every week against each and every opponent with the forty niners a little bit dinged up in the secondary out but he played ninety three percents of the snaps last week Malcolm Brown barely got on the field he played only four percents of the snaps. It's Todd Gurley who ceiling is a lot lower than it used to be against this roster against the forty niners defense and every week Cooper Cup game there is nothing about Cooper cups gain that suggests this is unsustainable there's nothing about it jared Goff looks his way I think he's gotten at least nine targets in every single game he has four consecutive games with one hundred yards and a touchdown this against this cardinal secondary happen we even begin to trust them I mean Matt Ryan is putting up numbers because the Falcons defense is so freaking bad that the the Falcons are just atrocious right now and if they cannot get Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley going in a big way goshen running backs for the rams it's Todd Gurley and that's it we thought early in the year they really were going to rotate them in and and most importantly his floor is a lot lower than it used to be but he's a he's a lower end rb one and hope he gets in the end zone the one other Guy Brian needs to throw the ball as a matter of fact he's thrown for at least three hundred yards in every single game this year and Julio Jones is still having too many for any other wide receiver fantasy now what I prefer Michael Thomas in a vacuum Cher De'andre Hopkins sure but why would I treat Cooper Cup right now and and the Cardinals Falcons very disappointing but the offense still movable against the Texas what do you got there from the L. A. side well it's worth pointing out that a callow witherspoon missing time for four the the forty niners he's got an ankle injury Smith is a guy who isn't doing enough to really be useful for fantasy on his own he's a low low end flex at best but he's hurting devante freeman who finally got in this match up when both teams are probably going to give up quite a few points I I can't imagine Julio doesn't get going this week it's another great week to Uber Cup you can also consider using a Josh Reynolds in this game on the lower lower end if brandin cooks doesn't hedonist with the chase Edmunds needs to be a preliminary waiver wire pick up this week and he would be super chalky for DCFS if David Johnson worded a miss this game against Atlanta's Swiss cheese d six yards against the Texans off hooper is going to be the chalk DFS tight end play of the week and it's hard to make an argument against it all right how about for the cardinals distant performances. I'm calling it right now I'm starting DFS lineups with Julio Jones this week I can't imagine he doesn't get going instead of the snaps last week even with tyler be active he somebody to consider picking up and putting your lineup moving onto the Falcon with a back injury and cliff Kingsbury said earlier in the week we're not really sure how he's GonNa feel at the end of the week so for those of you who had Dave Johnson and for those of you who even don't okay what about running back tight end it's just devante Freeman unforced Ito Smith is one of those fantasy thorns up right now walker whose usage has has fallen off the cliff if you have Greg Olsen whose whose targets and production have fallen off a cliff maybe Gerald Everett who played anyone David Johnson Mrs Action is going to be Super Chalky for DFS and should be owned in Standard Leagues. That's a really good point he's a Harrisburg kids CD East went to in his Gerald Everett who played a career high percent of the snaps last week he had eleven targets this is a guy who if you've been struggling at the tight end position may be have delaney the box it was his first touchdown of the season last week he still looks pretty good to me they just haven't been able to block I think I think Freeman is a decent enough DFS option because I think you'll catch offense because a chase edmunds actually looks pretty good had a thirty seven yard touchdown run last week against the bengals caught three passes on four targets so chase Edmunds asses but the guy who everybody's GonNa use for because nobody's going to be scared off by what happened with tyler effort Ross everybody's using Austin Hooper and DFS this week and then they come out against real opponents last couple of weeks and they don't look good in look Dak Prescott is getting it done for fantasy outside of the Saints Game He's getting done for fantasy Barassie get in this is the matchup for Titans and Austin Hooper has actually been one of the five most productive tight ends in all a fantasy football he did it again last week with six catches for fifty I as special he is arguably the number one wide receiver fantasy lay you would be hard pressed to convince me to trade cooper the other side keiler is running near Tyler is running and that's been an important part of their offense and it could continue to be an important part of the offense this week because David Johnson is dealing slowdown this cowboy offense because Cooper's been awesome when Gallup has played this year he's been awesome so Prescott has these weapons at his disposal I'm still throwing on the red zone but tyler is running and this this Atlanta defense can't stop anybody so I think this is a good week for Tyler Bales needs but they took advantage of a cream puff schedule for the first three weeks of the season they beat they beat the redskins they beat the giants and they beat the dolphins for four hundred sixty three yards against the packers he made some good plays but watching that game would you have said he played well overall because I wouldn't know no even with Darnold the cowboys are nine point favorites in this game well off all right well let's get to the jets darnold is playing that's the the key here I think in this game is if Tyron Smith going to play because if Tyron Smith plays I don't really see how the jets are going to be able to amount there's a top five fantasy quarterback in this matchup against the jets because even with Sam darnold back I don't really see how the how the Jessica score points on consecutive plays was bailed out by a flag the packers dropped another I mean he could throw five interceptions in this game and that's even if you take away the one that cooper costs them so anderson had just one catch against the Eagles secondary if it tells you how bad Luke Falk was the guy I'm really focusing on here though Ross how much will the chiefs while you would think this would be a great week get a Christian Kirk Oh and wiped check on his status he missed last week's game I think it's like a high ankle sprain so I wouldn't anticipate on target so neither one of those guys is useful I'm starting to think as we get to the cowboys in the jets I'm starting to think that Kellen Moore may not okay anybody else cowboys well Ezekiel Elliott you playing each and every week Tony Pollard played only four snaps against the packs. Let's use Chris Herndon the tight end and I think this guy's got a chance to be special we saw it in the preseason he was a heavy part of what they wanted to do and the the next Bill Walsh there's a chance he's not I mean it's Bill Walsh the cowboys took advantage and Ross. You gotTa beat who's WHO's in front of you right Thomas was a huge part of what they did I see that kind of skill set from Chris Herndon let's get to the titans and the broncos official we know that what does that mean that do anything for you well it really raises the ceiling and the floor of this offense I think eighteen play in this game a kyle is good streamer this week though because I don't trust Atlanta's defense against anybody I'd like to see them get better in the red zone they terrible you have to understand how just abysmal Luke Falk was and it's not his fault he got put into a position where he wasn't even expected to be the backup and Trevor Siemian then got hurt so I he got a carry on all of them and look pretty good but Zeke is their guy and that's it it's I think cooper is locked wide receiver one I am playing Gallup as four twenty five PM CBS game we can start with the titans one guy you can play it's Derrick Henry. I really hope you didn't blow be discussed or can we move on we can move on they actually used their tight ends more or last week both Charles Clay and Max Williams played up over fifty percent of the snaps but both guys got only forty points that suggests it's going to be close enough for Derrick Henry to get his customary twenty touches he is the only guy with Delaney Walker falling off the face receiver to with upside I think he's a really option this week I think is a top five quarterback and solid DFS option this week and Zeke's a hammer running back one that's credit to art to Arthur Smith the offensive coordinator but he's not getting it done for fantasy there's no consistency whatsoever from these wide receivers doesn't have to understand that it raises the floor and ceiling for lady on Bell who you play each and every week and finally maybe Robbie Anderson Jamison crowder will come back from the Dead Royce Freeman has been fine he has been fine he has been you could argue better than fine but Philip Lindsay there is just something different about this dude when he gets lucky to he's lucky didn't have another cup more turnovers yeah one of the interceptions was not his fault the one that went off of Amari Cooper hands but he had I think he turned the ball over I mean twenty two pass attempts against the bills to credit to him he still hasn't turned the ball over this year

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Boomer & Gio

15:32 min | 11 months ago

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"Big News. DC Metro sprints. I Five G. phone is here the L. Fifty q enjoy blazing fast download speed with incredible reliability and dependable coverage. Get it for just nineteen nineteen dollars a month. That's select sprint stores. You need as an eighteen month lease and approved credit. Learn more about five G. coverage in your area at sprint dot com slash sprint by Jean nineteen dollars per month. After twenty two sixty seven hundred is credit applied within two bills with new liner eligible rate of canceled early remaining balance do five coverage limited in select cities replies capable plan subject to thirty two are activated restrictions. Bummer was explained breaks. His spleen isn't just something you can just take out and play. I guess you kind of need it on system thing so you you can take it out and you can live with it. There's no question about it but put the screen basically is a is a blood. CBS sports that we're going to web MD putting up the clean. You're the reason I would know that because the world we get a picture of a spleen to CBS. Maybe we could do that but in the world of cystic fibrosis it's very important organ because it does support the immune system fights bacteria it acts as really as a filter for the blood yeah spleen acts as a filter for the blood is part out of the immune system. Yes old red blood cells are recycled in the spleen and platelets and white blood cells are stored there. The spleen also helps fight certain kinds of bacteria Syria that caused pneumonia in China. which is why it's so important in the world has cystic fibrosis but here here's the other thing too is that if you take the spleen out which you can do you can live without a spleen? You're more prone to infections and your your body will be sensitive to some of those things like meningitis and pneumonia when you got to be very very careful about that. I'm sure we're going to try to keep same spleen and that's where we're gonNA try to do. One hundred percent man thought maybe getting it out was the way to go but now now now now you're team spleen gallbladder taken out that you feel like you're a little bit less of a guy actually to the contrary to be honest with you because there were certain things. I couldn't eat when I had a inflamed gallbladder that was producing these gallstones now chicken parmesan cheese on your now. I- food right now I can eat whatever I want lot. Yes steaks and desserts and stuff. I feel like more of a man to be honest with you. It was less of a man with that. Gallbladder Gallbladder was holding you back. It was a really was got it right out of there. Get Out. How did that feel like after it was gone. Did you feel like did you feel relieved or yeah. It was great. It was a painful painful man that inflamed gallbladder those gallstones that was the worst painter felt then. Why do we have a gallbladder. I Dunno web and did what does the gallbladder do exactly caused me. A lot of paint sucks up fried food and gives you a lot of gives you a chesapeake is what God it was the worst those having a heart attack dog. It was like indigestion. Ashdod like times ten right. I really thought because you're right. It's up like in your chest and I thought that I was having a heart attack when I had the gall bladder tech jobs on long island quickly. It's going on tale yeah. Hey guys wanted to know if anybody has done any testing to marry his comments whether or not he's got you know what that is. A great call traded him to the jets. The jets go kiss Sam. Darnold your model. We all wondered why I yeah they would make a deal with Sarah well. The jets made a deal with them because they knew quincy non what was done right just having fun. Turan areas out. It's not as funny we're very chance at the jets wouldn't have been able to acquire him but guy with a hamstring pull trade you go just go to. Sam darnold kissing saliva swab all right all right. DT phone over there all right Jerry what are you got man. We have brought to you by the Ray Catena Auto Group schedule an appointment today to Raking Service Center for First Class Service at affordable prices. I what I did that. There's nothing good about the Sam darnold thing obviously but what I did enjoy because I was watching this live. was the way. Adam Gates delivered the news as I mentioned the Allen. The warm show what you do every morning between five forty five and six here gays runs down the list of injuries and he doesn't mention the players names he just mentioned their numbers and the one he left for the very final announcement fourteen has mono and we'll be out for this game so trevor will be starting and Luke Falk will elevated at some point in the backup so questions wow that who is weird robin a bomb on the media before that so right before he does the whole fourteen thing. It's twenty six says a sore shoulder he'll be sent for tests and and I'm like wait a minute. That's GONNA make Mongol isn't twenty-six Levy on bell yeah he goes yeah and then he goes fourteen mono. Mike what numbers Sam Darnold take it was so matter of fact wow so yeah he says they came to him the night prior and he thought just looking at darnold and talking to him something was up when Dave and John came to see me Dave so last night and he goes what we gotta go talk to. Joe And I looked at John and I said it's mono isn't it and in he was right so they move on with Trevor Simian as their starter at least for the foreseeable future here he is. He says I know what to do. Let's do my job you. You know run a clean operation and the ball in the end zone. It's pretty simple okay. Don't get shut out on Monday night. He's pretty matter of fact we have remember we had him on the Super Bowl. Show Al was that two or three years ago he came in with that big bulky big lane sling his arm big bulky swing in the whole thing going on. It was really bad so well. This was a guy remember there so he had real early success with the Broncos and he was doing some of the same stuff that peyton manning was doing at the line of scrimmage like he was doing he was also saying Omaha and he was doing like wow he studied peyton manning and maybe John Elway really found a gym and Trevor Simian then right down slowly than an injury then gone bounces around now he's getting other opportunities got a winning record in the NFL and he's got what other bed backup to have got over over twenty starts and he's got a winning record in the NFL. That's not bad when you're in a situation like this backup. That's what you want kids insurance policy. They could possibly win this game for sure. Here's Jamal Adams. He opened his little media briefing this way. Please please please please please. I S everybody. Please do not ask me about down. Watch please. I don't think they did actually I mean. There was a junk rip that watch off well. Beckham Beckham not interested either. I'm done talking I if I were pink laces and is not as a month. They probably be talked about so. It's with me. I know what it is. People just need something to talk about offshoot of you about the watch because you're not supposed to be wearing to watch. That's why we're talking to you about football with a hundred thousand two hundred thousand dollar. Watch watch and people are just singling you out to talk about it because there's nothing else to talk about. No dope face. You make people talk about it. 'cause you played football aw with a watch that is more than what the average. American makes by double and you're telling me that people are trying to go out there out of their way to talk talk about you. Dope phase would idiot idiot well. That was the only I'm sorry I sorry Iran onto think that people are trying to single out because we've got nothing to talk about. Pink lasers no idiot. You weren't two hundred thousand dollar our watch to play a football game. Hey Al nobody does that. Even get a shrink online at the doctor the call about the spleen and every day it's always good to have our listeners call and if we gotta shrink out there that can do. I can analysis from afar Ladele Beckham junior and tell us what the hell we're dealing with. Attention shrinks hit me up now. Here's where Beckham because that was the one guy actually tried to sneak question and after that about the watch he's like no. I just said no but they asked him about out. Greg Williams and I guess thought is Williams is going to show Beckham a lot of one on one coverage. Here's how he answers this and then we kind of move onto the other part of his session with the reporters definitely don't think that the only thing I'm buying is probably just gotTa. Watch out for cheap shots and the dirty hits and all the things that he likes to teach and so he would go on I have said that as an NFL football player I have said exactly the things that he said but guys and coaches in the League league John Randall in the Minnesota Vikings that was terling John Turlough uncouth defensive line coach hated that guy and then of course you know all of Jerry Glanville esteems before the game how about this the Houston oilers before the game would given a US soldiers helmet into a player and that guy would walk around the field with that helmet on before the game. I keep going to intimidate you. All that does is just incite you. Write that that just that just like what you're tougher than we are. Is that what the whole thing's about the APP didn't work didn't work big old boom no man. That's the and earth all thinking right. Here's some of that is Beckham saying two years ago in that preseason. Game Williams had his browns Detroit injure. 'em You just said even though it's a preseason that says enough about preseason season. It's like a a a known rule. I can preseason like nobody in. NFL is really out to do stuff like that but he says he did in his proof it is. I had people who who were here when he was here telling us. you know if you get a chance. Take a shot at a movie if you can you know hurt him. I guarantee he's going to leave. The game hurt now all kidding aside this is a guy who was suspended for a full year by the League Greg. No no really come to this. This is just pre-game game fodder nonsense and everything else but I'm sure that Odell in his heart really does feel that way because his teammates told them you take a look at the shot that he took you know you have a a defensive back diving and his legs you know when he's in a prone position trying to catch a ball and you know I would think that if our wide receiver that's dirty but the defensive back will tell you if I hit them up around the head. I'm going to get five. I'm going to get fined fifteen thousand dollars for a hit and might get ojected right so it's like the rules are weird. It actually promotes hits. It's like the one that Odell took in the preseason game against Cleveland. I only ask because of the track record. There's a track record. That's right pretty badly against him. You know exactly what's going on on and so I. I don't have a problem with what Odell saying. They're giants bills on Sunday. Here's the quote from Pat Shurmur. That's making the rounds is about Josh Allen. We thought he was a big strong thrower a guy that you know had a chance to be a starter in the NFL and and he has been for them and I think he's made steady improvements audio from giants dot com has some of the bills are upset because the question probably was when when you were scouting correct raft and he said it was. Where did you have him. When would you have taken me like listen. I'm not going to go back there and do that any good but we'll tell you what we thought. Markley so that's silly. That's controversy there last night the week began in Carolina the bucks and Panthers Tampa up late Carolina Carolina with the ball driving a big play that pretty much sealed the game moves over direct staff to McCaffrey McCaffrey trying to look to the left tent. Get there but looked at he gets to the first down marker bucket. Here is believed. They've stopped him. heartbreakers makes the tackle. Tampa Bay is celebrating deliberating gain McCaffery i-in Eagle was would want on the fan that was a fourth and one with under two minutes to go. They don't get the first down marker. They don't get the touchdown and they don't get the win. As Tampa holds off Carolina twenty two fourteen hargraves made the tackle what he saw on the play the play develop McCaffrey fake he came right. I was just sitting at home. I just stayed at home and he came to McCaffrey. Hill ran the ball sixteen times thirty seven yard. Yup Yup. It's amazing and then he also to catches so remember after last week's game when Carolina lost to the rams after the game or maybe maybe it was Monday or Tuesday. Cam was joking looking that I wish I would've had kept McCaffrey on my fantasy team. If I were to know we're gonNA give him the ball this much. I would've put him on my fantasy team and I now I know Ron. Rivera probably does have joking around but I will say that Tampa did a hell of a job defensively bottling him up and he just never ever got loose note so twenty fourteen the final score there quickly leave because I spent some time doing it and he's not here. Usually he plays the music right with Wayne Randazzo so I'll give you my little version with a different song as the mets completed needed the sweep of the diamondbacks young ready your job hammers. It did real lucky fact etta up Grand Slam had for this. I run at city field this year her find their way into a sweeping diamondbacks have been a six nothing lead here vote. I'm Wayne Ain't and CBS eight eighty he also had a two run homer later in the game and the mets win easy eleven to one. Marcus Stroman was pretty damn good yesterday. six accented third before. I guess you could say he tired a little bit. In Seventh Robbie Connotes as thirteenth Michael Conforto his thirtieth Todd Frazier homered Tomas Nido homered so tonight the mets take on the dodgers who are ninety ninety five and fifty three Noah syndergaard face Clayton Kershaw. Did you see the way the dodgers beat the Orioles yesterday by any chance to to game. I don't know who the battery was for. The dodgers got runners. Here's the second and third strike out goes past the catcher Dillon Bundy's. The pitcher just basically throws his arms in the air doesn't budge the runner from second came around to score the third and that's the to go ahead runs. They come off the win. I I last saw him on the TV's. Okay Oh my goodness pretty. It's Pretty Dylan. Bundy doesn't move just watching so it's kind of funny so that's tonight the mets remain two games behind Chicago and Milwaukee for the second wildcard guard spot cubs beat the padres and the brewers made it seven straight as they beat the marlins three two and yes the Yankees swept a doubleheader from the Tigers ten four and six four but the story really he is the injuries J. Hat game one bicep tendonitis which apparently he's been dealing with for several starts. Edwin encarnacion left the seventh inning of game one with a strained left. Oblique Gary Sanchez left game with left Groin. Titan is all three either coming back to New York or are back in New York for testing the Yankees go to Toronto Tonight Masahiro Awesome Hero Tanaka and the former met Farmhand Anthony k the starters. They're the Yankees Ninety seven and fifty one on the season. The Astros lost their ninety five and fifty three so starting opened up a little bit of a lead for that best record in baseball.

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1st and Goal Podcast Week 2

No Huddle

26:56 min | 2 years ago

1st and Goal Podcast Week 2

"Low, welcome to NFL first and goal. The podcast I'm Brian Weber longside Eric Allen. The former NFL quarterback on today's podcast will focus on key matchups across the league among our guests will recap the game between the eagles and buccaneers with TJ Reeves of the buccaneers radio network and talk Vikings impact with Greg Madsen from the Packers radio network. Let's kick off the podcast with our NFL insider. It's time for NFL network reporter, Ian Wefa board prep sheet of the NFL onto a, let's start in Tampa Bay the buccaneers of surprising to in team. They beat Philadelphia and riot. Fitz. Patrick was brilliant. Again today four more touchdown passes. You have any sense of what the bucks are going to do at the quarterback position in two weeks when Jameis Winston is eligible to play. Coming back from his suspension actually talked with bucks sources before the game about this very scenario. And the description given to me was kind of like you would talk about running back which is basically just going to ride the hot hand. And I think for the. The box. There's no question based on the people I've spoken with that. James Winston is the face of the franchise that he is going to be their quarterback going forward. But he's not here right now. He's not going to be here to week three which is a Monday night game. So there's going to be a shore week from week three to week four. So from what I understand, you know, they may well just let fits play until he starts struggle. Just kinda ride the hot hand. It's fits going forward until it isn't anymore. And you know, I think for James, he wants to get back and you know, get some time to get into the swing of things. Then sound like he's in too big of a rush either. So I think this actually might be an okay situation for all parties. If it just keeps on playing until all stand with the Packers and eagles game Fitzpatrick. The backup looked great for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But what about on the other side of the field with Nick foles again, up and down game, not. Touchdowns no interceptions, but but give us a idea of what the eagles are looking for to. Yeah, I think for the eagles you have a couple of things at play here. First of all, Doug Peterson said ramp to the game that they're going to have an announcement on Carson Wentz tomorrow. That should be him getting cleared for contact me. My explanation that was given to me is that in week three when should be cleared. And then it's a matter of what happens because it's not as simple as all right, winces clue for contact. You know, let's just he's the starter. It's really just is he for contact how close to one hundred percent? Is he what other factors are playing? There are some some strong voices inside the organization that are pushing for patients, even though the eagles are one one. So they've kind of maintained without once. But obviously, you know, he's going to be pushing to play. So just because he gets cleared tomorrow doesn't necessarily mean that he's gonna come in and start right away. He will, but only when he's absolutely ready. He's Eric Ellen. I'm Brian Webber. Taking you around the league with our NFL insider, Ian Rapoport of NFL network, Ian yesterday, the Browns announcing their parting ways, Josh Gordon, what's the likelihood he's traded before he could be released tomorrow? I would say it is possible, and this is something that the Browns are sort of preparing for, you know, they did what it it. It's it's not common, but it does happen from time to time where you announce a releasing someone, but you're not actually allowed to physically do it for say twenty four hours in at that point, teams do the research. They take the time and they are would if we actually traded for this guy, you know, it's not going to be a lot. It would probably be a conditional. Seventh round, pick six round, pick something like that. But for the Browns, they get to pick where he goes out of the division would be one place and they get to, you know, get a little get forgiven on the salary a little bit. Not that it's much, but at least they get someone to take it on. That is a possible scenario. You know an and from what I understand, Josh Gordon would like to go play for the Cowboys or the forty Niners. The Niners are a possibility actually tried to trade from a couple years ago that certainly will be. Situation to watch, are they making room for Dez Bryant? It's it seems like that'd be a perfect opportunity for dares to slip right into spot from what I'm told the Browns remain interested in Dez Bryant. They've had some contact between does Bryant's agent over the course of a couple of weeks. They couldn't agree on price in the preseason. Now is the issue wasn't lack of interest. It was that they could not agree on price in maybe because there's a need, maybe the the price can kind of meet a little bit or maybe because they're oh in two, and they say, you know what? It's just it's just not worth doing it. There's lots of play out, but from what I understand a possible Dez, Bryant signing is something to keep an eye on chatting with Ian Rapoport of NFL network. Looks like it's going to be a long year for the bills. They got pounded by the chargers to follow in two devante Davis, retired halftime. Today in, you know, I think he may have, and you know, just listening to the quotes from some of the players. First of all, I can't say that I've heard that before. I mean, look, I guess you know what they say about players. When you're thinking about retirement, you basically are retired. I just can't remember someone doing it like in the middle of the game and being art, I'm done. But you know, Lorenzo Alexander said he said he was told that volunteer retired halftime walked out of the stadium and left. So I guess that's. Amazing charges look really good today in speaking about this organization, they kind of under the radar? Yeah, Philip rivers who has just been so good over the course of his career winds plan a lot better since his rookie year you have Keenan Allen there so many, so many weapons, but talked a little bit about what's going on with the injury bug with this football team. And I think this is something that the charges the battled kind of throughout and you know, teams deal with a lot of things, but it's almost like the more you deal with injuries, you know, I guess like the better you are at it. So I mean, the chargers could take anything now and they've got whatever. Like we've, we've, we've seen hunter Henry go now on the non contact before the season. We've seen a guy who's going to be starting cornerback for us, go down doing a conditioning drill. That's something that just never happens. They lost the right tackle. I mean, I think the chargers as. Use look at a roster on paper up and down, have one of the better rosters in the NFL so they could deal with these kind of things. But when they actually get out on the field and play, they are legit team and surely someone I think to look out for, let's wrap it up on the legal front, Seattle and Chicago matching up on Monday night football Seahawks of side, Michael kendricks. But he since he's pled guilty to insider trading and he set to being car serrated coming up in January. Do you expect the league to allow him to play the season. I expect them to allow him to play Monday night. What happens after Monday night. I do not know he's going to be suspended. He is figuring out that right now. He's still needs to me with league officials to sort of have his say. My educated guess is that he comes in and plays one game, and then we see, you know how many games is it going to be him? And there's not a lot of white collar crimes that players have been, you know, convicted for pled guilty to it. Just there's not a lot of precedent. I mean, if it was a DUI I could say, okay, that's two games. There was a marijuana possession. I could say was probably one game. This is a new one. So I think we're all kind of, you know, learning on the fly, but obviously for the Seahawks they felt, you know, it's it's not a lot of risk. I mean, you know, theoretically could play some parts of the season and after that, you know, he's probably going to go away for a little bit and always a pleasure. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. We'll chat with you next week on the NFL on tune-in. Look forward to it. Thanks guys. We continue on NFL huddled the podcast. Now let's break down the game between the eagles and the bucks with TJ Reeve sideline reporter for the buccaneers radio network. Now, let's expand the conversation as promise spot. Light the buccaneers to an old to start the year, coming off their twenty seven twenty one victory over the eagles pleased to be joined by TJ reef sideline reporter for the buccaneers radio network. TJ I appreciate your patience. Thanks for hanging in there and you are veteran talk show host. So I'm asking, for your opinion, not speaking as a Representative of the organization based on how well Ryan Fitzpatrick has been playing four more touchdown passes today. What do you think the Buxton when a couple of weeks when James Winston comes back from his suspension, if the great question, I know you guys are just debated. It did to be with you to be with a year there. That's a, that's a question that comes up after the Steelers game, honestly, because this has been a week to week thing. I mean, he played brilliantly Fitzpatrick last week, but there was all the talk this week that well, you seen time and again, he plays a good game Fitzpatrick over the last four or five years and then plays a poor game. Well, I'm here to tell you from field level today and it was hot. It was like stick your head in an oven hot in Tampa. He was hot. He was equally figuratively hot again today, and the bucks are rolling. So it's a great problem to have. It's a controversy that is brewing heading into that Monday night game coming up, but the guys you can't see it. You can't say enough about the job that's Patrick has done, and this is why we love sports. This is why we love the NFL because who had my Tampa Bay Buccaneers to it. Oh. James Winston suspension. That's while you let up play the game. Yeah. When you look at this team, you love Evans, you love Goodwin. The Sean Jackson is just the bee's OJ. Howard is one of those young up and coming type tidy ends that are very difficult in the run game, and the past game talk to us about the preparation going into the week. Do they just say there's no one could cover us. Well, I mean, there are a lot of weapons, and we said that the last two or three years building around Mike Evans and last year you signed Sean Jackson trapped OJ Howard trap, Chris Godwin who looked like a monstrous fine in the middle rounds of the draft year ago God when we're talking about and you haven't even really utilized Adam Humphreys and Ken Cameron great who've been really stars of the offense last two or three years in Tampa Bay. So yeah, there is a wealth of weapons right now. You hope there's not injuries. There might be down the road, but Tampa Bay's from death in the big play department. I'm here to tell you the big fellow, Jay Howard potential through the roof. I mean that catch over the middle. You'll see the highlights of it all throughout the evening. In the next couple of days, there are not a lot of guys that are six, five, six, six, two hundred and sixty pounds or so that can motor like OJ did to take off and go catching one on that place. So I think one more point that I would make and you saw it at at. Precision passing, put the fall where your guys can make place. It's Patrick has done that Brian and Eric for the last two weeks, put it in front of them, put put it where they can run after the catch and look what's happened. And it has happened chatting with TJ reef sideline reporter, buccaneers radio network. At some point, if Ryan Fitzpatrick can't maintain his momentum, Tampa Bay's gotta run the football with Doug Morton. Now playing for the raiders. Who do you have faith in moving forward? At the running back position, Peyton Barbara is the guy that they want to utilize of an and again, he has a day to day where he didn't even for thirty yards. A lot of it was tough sledding in the second half of the eagles were kind of cramming the line of scrimmage. But when you have a team that is clicking rolling the ball and Eric, you know this. I mean, you can live with a couple of weeks of not being able to run a defectively because nobody's been able to stop fits magic and the four hundred yard four touchdown passing game. How about in the history of the NFL? I don't know if you guys have gone over the staff. They were just telling us this in the post game show on the buccaneers radio coverage in the. History of the NFL. There is one player with two, four hundred yard four touchdown passing game. Not Dan. Marino not Peyton. Manning's not Brett farve not Tom Brady not drew Brees it's Ryan Fitzpatrick the last two weeks. Now who had that. Well, I guess that's the inspiration for the outfit he had on after the game. Right? Paul, Ryan weather role that was a tribute, I think to Colin McGregor the fans will see it'll media tonight on TV Fitzpatrick Roland with the kind of the black open, open button-down no-shirt on with the chains and the sunglasses. And you know, all I know is I was standing in talking to Quan Alexander on the post game coverage, and Fitzpatrick came out of the bathroom area in that outfit, and his teammates rallied around altuve filthy and take pictures. So if you want to say that the guy has got the locker room and has got the huddle right now, Ryan Fitzpatrick hasn't. That's a dangerous place to be if you're a backup or if you're a guy right now who's wanting to stop back. Yeah. And Jameis Winston and TJ you've been around this franchise for many years. How do you think James Winston is handling the news, obviously supportive of his teammates put as to wonder about his own personal future? Well, that got to be your your first and foremost thing is you want to win and it seems starved its franchises star for winning the playoffs in a decade and look. Can't have official contact with with the organization in terms of Cain tapes campy at the Pacific. None of that. Now, in terms of being able to be in contact with his teammates, you know, that's a who knows how much of that's going on, but he's gotta be elated. I know he wants to win and look. It's a long season. You don't know what's going to happen. You hope injuries don't come into play. They may very well be counting on James Winston in a couple of weeks. We don't know. But for right now, the only thing that he can do is by this time stay in shape and be ready when his name and number is called and we'll see how that part plays out. And now I mean who, again, I'm Mr.. Who had you would you who had the books to it? Oh, oh one and one for Monday night football next Monday night. I wanna talk to somebody that had that. That's right. Last couple of things for you again and rightfully so we've been talking so much about the offense and the production. The explosive plays. We all love that, but give us a little bit of a detail, an idea on defense who's been kinda balling out who's helped to get this bay booking. Ears team to two zero. Well, they did well today, the bucks have an excellent veteran now, defensive line unit, Jason Pierre. Paul is still the real deal with chase Nick foles everywhere, and had a couple of facts. I had one sack at a had a quarterback hurry where where he levelled full, they were able to get a couple of turnovers in this game. What can your plan with a very young secondary? They? They have very little experience back there. The veteran, Chris Conte got hurt in the game today. Brent Grimes, a veteran was inaccurate game with a groin injury. The buccaneers at one point we're playing three rookie free first year players in the secondary in the second half of the game. So there are a little thin and young in the secondary. But this was a game with the defend ten to stand up and I know Philadelphia minute interesting at the end with a couple touchdowns with that deal for all played well today, it helped him get the win. Awesome. TJ always a pleasure. We appreciate your patience. Thanks so much for giving us a few minutes again today here on the NFL on tune it. I love it. I want you to replicate the fits man. Outfit today. I expect the pitcher on social media later tonight or tomorrow. I'm waiting for the simulcast. It'll take me five years to grow the beard, but at least they'll have a goal. Thank you, teaching this NFL huddle the podcast. Now let's spotlight the divisional match up between the Panthers and falcons with Lovie my Haley, the former falcons fullback. Now, let's recap the falcons thirty one twenty four divisional win over the Panthers pleased to be joined by Obama Halley, the former Pro Bowl fullback for the falcons over. Thanks so much for taking the time. Would you take away from the wind today? Man. Winds were able to right some wrongs from ads week. 'cause does the around Atlanta? A lot of people weren't happy. We want GIO game in the pre season. Then we lost our first game and the fashion with kids. So to get this win and do where were a lot better, the red zone, a lot on third down a lot better with some of the basics of the game to let people know who are sales that we have that foundation. That was a good to watch. Yeah, looking at it, I thought one big point was the red zone. The focus on on getting seven points in the red zone focused on really finding ways to be versatile, not just doing the throwing the fate of Julio. How did that come about. I think it's really just from experience. I know that we have a game like on the shows last week. We try to work on a weakness. Y'all is short week is late in the week is leap falcons, not just this year for for a couple of years Redstone, and they just probably got it right because it's one thing that draw up a certain way. One thing, the frats yet, but when the lights are on with the cross stick and down when you know, was looking at you gotta exit and they're probably able to execute over and over and over again. And even Matt running that play in the red zone. It's I, it is because iron is rookie seasons. When I came in in a baby giraffe running when he tried to expand. Out of break, but you a strong three guys. What's the replay? Couple times three guys came at him. He guy hit spread around the rate moving, and you know the way. The way talking falcons with Lovie Mahendra leap as Atlanta picked up the division, the wind today over Carolina, despite the fact of the freemen unable to play and according to reports, he could be out for a few more weeks with the knee issue. So Lovie whatever Coleman show you with his hundred yard, rushing game. Goldman always doing shifty, but that one run on the outside or. Outside came back the inside and took off everything each show, our wear, but you could carry a cute all you wanted to. If he will just be a guy, you want that competitive nature to be in all of your planes. You want them to to like they could be the guy any time. He's so good. You know, not only strength now, only powered brew blocks breaking tackles, but just what the consistency making good decisions because tailback is only as good as officer or always good as how we can work with is often divine. Did you know what off defensively in the secondary, particularly had some injuries had a suspension of big time performance today. Ricardo Alan gets an interception. You have to find ways to be successful against a guy like Cam Newton because in the pocket, he can get outside of it at times and move it being able to throw a ball down the field it, they did a good job. It seemed like today and being able to what we call you want to glue onto your guy, wants cameras outside the pocket. You can't just stay in your zone, whether it's a man or or some kind of a combination zone. Once he's outside the pocket, you gotta find a way to latch on. McKinley is the one bed. He was dragged on a thousands, everyone watching it because passion is, you know, 'cause they lacking at all. He was amazing not only earnings tackle Bernard Sachs, but rows whole time play as motor never stopped, and it's always see the light son of somebody else. I'm gonna step up through weight and attack was you know the one that's like the Southie obese, you think about the balance of power in that division three teams made it to the postseason last year. Are you buying the bucks? Two zero to start the year behind Ryan Fitzpatrick. I am don't want to buy the book. We don't have to worry about that, but safe. Get going. Have a couple. When gro. Repeats a manhole. His time to anyone who take that spotlight. The money. That's not thing. That level the right there appointment, cone grooving, LV. We appreciate the information. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us today on the NFL on tune in. Nobel we roll on NFL no huddle. The podcast recapping the matchup between Minnesota and Green Bay with Gregg Matzek from WTMJ in the Packers, radio network. Pleased to be joined by Greg Matzek host of the post game show and WTMJ and the Packers radio network. Greg, thanks for taking the time. Ties, of course are unsatisfying, but does the outcome feel any better considering Minnesota's kicker Daniel Carlson missed three field goals and could have won the game in the final seconds of overtime? Yeah, curious what both fan bases in Enes are thinking about this one. You know both teams had plenty of opportunities. You feel like you should not have even come down to an overtime situation. In this game, the Vikings scored twenty two points in the fourth quarter, the Packers appeared in control. You knew Minnesota and come back in, and then some questionable calls down the stretch, some questionable ball handling Aaron Rodgers, pointing the finger at himself for a series and overtime Packers missed a field goal is well, both teams have their opportunities, and I think bidding. This game ended the way that did. Yeah. But Aaron still up for the task. So basically on on one and a half of lakes, being able to get it done, you are, you're right about the RPO late in the game. I didn't really understand that with with Rogers having a bond knee, but talk to us a little about how he prepared for this great, Minnesota defense with basically a half foot. Well, it's a defense. He certainly familiar with in Mike Zimmer is chess matches along with the Packers. Offense has been pretty interesting to watch over the years, but Rhonda's operated in a in a classroom capacity throughout the entire week. It was a lot of mental preparation which, you know a lot of this game is, but nothing on field at all. I think he was only under center one time during this game. Erica by count is correct. He was operating out of the pistol, and there were some unique wrinkles. I brought to the Packers often. What I saw from Aaron is that he was buying large efficient and on time and ultimately is the game started to wear on. You could feel like he was getting a little bit more loose in a little bit more comfortable at moving through the pocket. I think he took a couple of hits that that he certainly is going to feel tomorrow, but you know, he dialed up his own number a couple of times and was forced to scramble a couple of occasions. I think if nothing else it, it makes me feel good for the Packers. Next week when they go into Washington and the following week when they host the bills that the injury might linger a little bit, but you. Aaron did against one of the premier defenses in the league, and I, it was pretty impressive to watch overall chatting with Gregg Matzek. He's those the post game show and WTMJ and the Packers radio network because our in Rogers is superhuman beyond the details of the injury report that you have any doubts he was going to play today. I really didn't in it. It just kind of goes back to his body language, and I was standing next to earn on Wednesday when we were asking him about the knee and in how did you want to classify it? He more or less agreed to call it a niece brain. But we've kind of seen the movie before with Aaron Rodgers and his calf, look, I don't know what's more painful more complicated deploy through, but he's able to do them both. And you know, against a great defense against the mediocre defense doesn't really matter that is is put under stress regardless of the opponent. So he's got to be able to endure the pain which he did today. And again, I'm sure you'll be sore tomorrow, but a game kind flow. It's it's the, you know, great time. A year. You've got the crowd behind in? Yeah, the adrenaline starts flowing little bit. I thought he buying large played a very impressive game and in phoned his targets, you know, he wants to question what happened toward the end of the game in overtime. You're at the thirty seven yard line guys. There Dr went from second one, two, third, and four to fourth in eleven out of field goal range. The Packers should have an opportunity to win that game in the overtime period and it didn't because Aaron mishandled the ball on he dialed up his own number on a second one little keeper flight and cry and get a first down, and it wasn't able to get the ball out of his hands on a third and four. He owned up to those mistakes after the game, which is exactly what you want your leader to do. Yeah. I've been in defense of meetings where the emphasis is really on making sure you get as close to the edges possible for attacking a quarterback in pushing a quarterback and you want bodies around him. It seemed like the Vikings had that in store for Aaron Rodgers. A lot of times he would get rid of the ball. They give them a little nudge or a little push. Or just grazing? I think the Vikings really wanted to try and test that Neo as much as they can. You feel the same? Yeah. Yeah, I did. And any other, the kind of defense to Eric dead that collapses the pocket from inside and from outside. So you know, the Packers offensive line certainly had their their tests into everything cut out for him today. I don't. Overall, they held pretty well, but you know, hits on the quarterback or are part of the story line here. Herrick I, I don't know if you'd enjoy playing in today's NFL with called on the quarterback. You know, a lot of the talk on our post game show was you know what? What else is claim after you supposed to do at the end of the game? When you're Alexander comes down with an interception, you know, all that negated because of a personal foul grantee the official after the games that it it had nothing to do with helmet the helmet, but that clay drove the quarterback to the ground up, man. I, I really didn't see it that way. I gotta be honest here. This is not Packers Homer Indy at all. I just didn't see it, but that's what we're subjected to now in the NFL is that body weight is now a subjective call and I don't think that's right. Yeah, I agree with you, Greg, we appreciate the information. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us today on the NFL on tune in all right guys. Good. Thank you.

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The Chris and Joe Show: Breaking down the Jets loss

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The Chris and Joe Show: Breaking down the Jets loss

"Are you troubled by strange. Hockey trades in the middle of the night do you experienced feelings of dread about. NHL Free Agency have you or your family ever seen in New York rylander scheme. If the answer is yes. Don't wait another minute. Pick up your mobile device and subscribe to Lighthouse Hockey podcasts. From espy nation today are courteous and efficient hosts Are Ready to serve. All of your islander needs and worries lighthouse hockey podcasts for New York. Islanders fans you're listening to the Chris and Joe Show presented by SP nation an interview. I'm Judy Chris. Plum and as we do every Tuesday morning near giving you the breakdown analysis from the game analyzing the film. Don't let it you know the positives and negatives from both sides of the ball that we took away from it and this is a game that it was very tough to conjure up many complete positives because of the manner in which the New York giants lost their in stadium in state rival. The New York jets ended up falling thirty four. The twenty seven and that loss stings the most because this jets team was arguably one of the worst in the League after losing to the Miami. Dolphins were now actually on a winning streak so the giants managed to find ways to push themselves down even further when they have plenty of wonderful opportunities to get easy victories victories. And we're GONNA be discussing all the things that really hurt them in this game especially with their positives and be in being able to say the things that that they did. Twelve did not do enough of so kicking things off though offensively the positives that we had from this game and the one thing that we noticed. was that the slants. The screens in this game really worked very very well. Because the giants playmakers were able to take simple route concepts get a little bit of space. Turn up the field get long touchdowns. Yeah run after catch was huge. In this game we saw the sixty yard touchdown by golden tape. The thirty nine touch thirty seven yard touchdown by Slayton so long runs from Red Ellison Saquon Barclays only play in. This game was a nice catch and run for twenty two yards yards so the giants were able to take advantage of the jets will say porous. Okay bad secondary sorry some bad tackling and really turn those short passes into big gains and that was really what kept them in this game offensively yet. Yeah when we talk about the things that really work for the giants it opened our eyes to or not opener is because we're we were fully aware of it at this point in the season but it added to the fact that we will have what we keep saying. The giants need to be smart and getting the ball out quickly in running the short to intermediate passing concepts. But it makes us US question though the decision making from the play calling in this game because they didn't do it really that often a lot of plays which will be getting in the negatives a lot of these plays took way too long to develop and Daniel Jones is getting sacked or hit on most of them so if such things are working the giants need to find ways to come back to them. Use them further down the line in the game. And you're able to manufacture those yards with a simple dump off a simple screen a simple slant it'll it'll essentially alleviate some pressure from the pass rush to because instead of being overly aggressive in blitzing there'll be more on their heels and maybe it will come out and nickle nickle package or they'll be less willing to put so many guys in the box come after Daniel Jones and saquon Barkley out the jets were able to pretty much woman. Win The line of scrimmage both teams were able to win the line of scrimmage on defense with lightboxes. Neither defence had to commit a whole lot of players to a nine men boxes to stop the run so that was working in the favor of both defenses but the giants were able to get some get the quick passing game to be productive which it is good but as you said they did rely too much I long developing plays. And I'm pretty much always a proponent of looking down the field in the passing game the the value there is really like that ten to fifteen yard down the field zone and it shouldn't take for five seconds for for an NFL caliber receiver or even a High School for receiver to get that far down the field. These are guys who will conservatively. They say run a four five forty. It shouldn't take that long to get down the field and find a little bit open grass. You know it shouldn't take five seconds seconds to run fifteen yards that leads first negative that we have here in. That was what I mentioned. And what Christus mentioned is that the giants keep running these slow. Oh long developing plays that were resulting in hits on Daniel Jones and and evidently resulting in sacks on him as well. The thing that really league doesn't make much sense. Is that choosing to do that. When you have three new offensive lineman? You're essentially setting up Daniel Jones Jones to be a sitting duck because there's not much not much time to to throw. There's not a lot of room to throw so you might as well try to get the offense into a rhythm by getting the ball how quickly finding Open receivers in space and like you said if you can push the ball downfield ten to fifteen yards. That's effective but right now that that has not been working for the giants because there has not been thorough and strong enough pass protection giant. Like you said the giants are putting Daniel Anew Jones in a bad position they're also putting their offensive line in just bad positions in asking them to hold up for four or five seconds and pass protection which even though the jets don't have a great pass rusher. They still struggled to do. There are ways to help out struggling offensive line can run. Those quick plays plays A seven yard slant you can use bootlegs in rollouts you can run. RPO's the these are quick easy. You ways to take the pressure off of both the quarterback and the offensive line. And it's something the giants just. They just don't seem to want to do yet. They seem to be sticking into the same thing that is not working on a weekly basis the other negative that we have here and we spoke about the quick to in the quick takes the offensive lineman was re were really really bad and pass protection and in run protection protection because of how many new guys they had stepping in this game because of injuries two key veteran players but a player that kind of stuck out on the film when we went back and watched that we didn't notice the first time that had a really bad day pass protection with Saquon qualm Barclay. There were two plays where he allowed Jamal Adams to come in blow him up and then make contact. On the Jones one of them was a strip fumble that was recovered by Saquon and then the second one was the infamous play that was all over twitter and the rest of the Internet. That Jamal Adams ripped the ball out of his hands in ran into the end zone. So saquon clearly did not look like himself at all in this game. He'll must look like he took a step backward in his overall health and his demeanor he just he did not seem on her one hundred percent right and it was so clear and seeing him not playing well in something that he's usually pretty good at since coming back from the injury his pass protection has been. I'll say questionable. I don't think his angle is to the point where he can anchor against pass rushers. We saw him giving ground kind of just more or less trying to buy time rather than step up and aggressively hit pass rushers and try to stop them. which if you're running back in pass protection that's what you have to do you? Yup We think back a few years that's what Ahmad Bradshaw did and he was always the best passed protecting running back in the NFL because he went to step up and deliver shots to pass. rushers get his hands on them and then anchor. Barkley just isn't doing that and by by the end of the game the giants were pulling him off the field in passing situations as dangerous as he can be with the ball in his hands. If you can't rely on him for pass protection that kind of is the right choice by the one in Gaughman was pretty obviously the giants best running back image. You wonder why they didn't make that decision sooner. Because does Goldman is the more healthy running back. He is not getting a lot of snaps are touches in right now. SAQUON is not at full health. So if he's not ready to play able to play why would you force him to go out there and continue to aggravate an injury. That is taking a long time to heal I I know a lot of people want to assume. SAQUON is a superhuman but an injury is an injury. It's GonNa take them all out till he's actually back to full strength and at the same time there's also the mental side of things things that are gonna Nag him. Even if he's one hundred percent healthy he's still going to be a bit wary and not as aggressive and making cuts and trying to use his his ankle so they needed to have gotten Wayne Goldman in sooner. And if saquon still isn't healthy after the bye week you would hope that Wayne Goldman is is getting some more touches and they tried to alleviate some of that pressure from saquon. Yeah and they also do have buck Allen on the roster which again he need isn't anything like Saquon as a player he probably isn't even as good as wing Goldman but he is there he is healthy. He does have the skill set to execute their entire. Hire offense. The giants might WanNa look at actually using a running back rotation and not have saquon the bell cow and rotate Wean Goldman on when Barkley just either needs arrest or just isn't working. Day will probably have to be more proactive with the running backs going forward. Yeah I think they really just assumed that because Saquon was able to play did not mean he was fully ready to return to his same workload. Something does need to be done to better protect him for his longevity because him missing some snaps here and there in a two and eight season is not that big of a deal when you WANNA keep your second year running back for as long as possible and healthy as long as possible so they need to be a little bit more smarter more smarter and a little bit more proactive. Like you said we're GONNA take a look at the defensive positives and negatives but before we do that we're going to take a short commercial break. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what is already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling. 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You can find our episode on the streaming wars right now so defensively giants had an interesting game because there were really some decent positives from it and it does not statistically look like they lost this game based on what they gave up but they still ended up giving up certain in situations that lead to discharge victory but the first positive we did have from this and the only positive we had was they actually had a really good job of playing the run and as much as that might not have been the deciding factor in this game they were able to hold them to only seventy six rushing yards. A lot of those yards were picked up by SAM. darnold on some Scrambles because there were no available options and they were also able to hold lady on bell to one point nine yards per carry in thirty four yards so an elite running back with a battle offensive line front of them in front of him. They were able to at least take advantage of an opportunity. Dan just laid out like that. It's kind of scary. How similar the jets and giants are right now? They have both squads have elite running back who is battling injuries. They both have bad offensive lines in this game. They're running their quarterback was their best running back. Both teams were able to effectively shut down the other teams running game. It's considering the the jets are perceived. That's probably not great a great thing to realize for the giants but they did take advantage of that opportunity. One of the interesting things I noticed was that they've played Dexter Lawrence a at the knows more than they probably have to date. I noticed that he was at nose. Tackle a fair bit and that was even with Dalvand Tomlinson on the field. They played him at defensive end. A few times also noticed that didn't see much from from Bj Hill which is the second week in a row. That's happened I think with our with Leonard Williams on the squad it is looking like. BJ Hill might be the odd man out which which in this case did work out. We did see learning Williams in the jets backfield quite a bit once again. He got close to the quarterback quite quite a bit the giants were able to just choke and suffocate. The jets running game and this was something we prescribe in the preview they Day effectively Isley. Forced Sam Darnold to win the game but Donald didn't turn the ball over it. darnold did not have any turnovers and that was some of the things that kind of worked our way into our negatives but the first negative that we had from this game was when you go back and look at the giants didn't really allow allow that many third down conversions. The only allowed four but there were a number of third and longs where the defense was all set to get off the field and something ended ended up happening that resulted in a I was a lot of deep throws past the sticks or the most notable Sam darnold scramble on anything I think it was the third and seven he. He was able to pick up a first down. So the those types of things you you need to be a lot more effective on defense in essentially you WanNa you have the offense on their heels in those plays and instead the giants defense was on their heels and gave up like I said multiple third and longs. Yeah that won't scramble by SAM. darnold picked up twenty thirty four yards in. I believe you're right. Blue was third and seven. The entire defense just had their backs to him. And when you have a quarterback that you yeah no can scramble you have to at least keep one eye on him and Dornan's ability to convert those third and longs there. Were a couple where there was no defense. The one that really stands out to me was the one where Donald was wrapped up and being tackled and he still managed to convert that third down around and it was a long one it. I'm not quite sure how you defend that pretty much any other time. Nine Times Outta ten defense did its job. You either got the sack the incomplete. Pass your jogging off the field feeling good about yourself. But even so we saw kind of some of the similar breakdowns in coverage. We saw penalties penalties at just bad times and a lot of the problems that have played this defense all season long a lot of things that were plaguing them and this final final negative is a really reoccurring one on different weeks here and there. This one was the fact that they kept getting killed on crossing routes and a Lotta throws over the middle where there was like a simple Hitch concept or Drags across the field things like that were wide open for the jets to convert on and because because they have some faster receivers like Jamison crowder. They were able to stretch five yards of space and turn it into a fifteen plus yard gain so stuff like that that is just needs needs to be better. There's poor linebacker play if they're not able to if they're not there to disrupt those routes and and keep them from having an unscathed path to get the football ball and a little bit also comes down to some poor tackling. There were instances where they were able to make. Some plays in some tackles on those types of Route concepts and The jets receivers were able to break tackles which something we say. Every single week poor tackling which ultimate comes down to poor coaching they were accorded few instances where the Dan players in the vicinity. But they were just out of position that Kinda forces them to have to lunge in those tackles Players can run right through them at angles not wrapping up securely. There were a few instances like Allegorical tree breaking up a pass. That probably would have been a first down to his Thomas Andromeda Had A couple couple nice tackles coming downhill like you said just poor tackling continues to be a problem is poor play poor coaching. It isn't a it. It isn't a problem with any one solution or any one thing causing it there are. It is a symptom of a whole lot of different problems. The giants the final point. We have here and if you recall from previous shows folks if we ever have anything wrong with special teams we are going to address it and in this game. There were some glaring errors on point after attempts vol- things so in the special teams game. If you were called there was a bad snap. That caused a odd scrambling situation my Riley Dickson in an obvious situation where he wasn't even going to get the ball complete it because it was not planned it was not scheme. I saw some people on twitter asking why they went for two there. That was not designed. That was not intentional. It was a bad snap. That was mishandled. A bad snap is act the Aussie the long snapper napper. Not In the right location could not handle it could not get it down and that kind of thing if you have a bad snap on a pat. It's going to mess up the rhythm rhythm of your kicker. Because next time he goes out to kick one. He's going to be looking down he's going to be worried that the ball is going to be there. He's going to be worried that everything is set and like it needs to be and I. I think that was the reason why Rose Saas missed the second one. So that's that's two points that were taken off the board that would have given the giants twenty eight because they wouldn't have ended up needing to go for two given them twenty eight and they would have been down by six points instead of seven. It's little things like that that they have a a ripple effect effect on the on the rest of the game which this is one reason why I love are Kinda special teams rants. It's the side of the ball. Nobody ever really notices but it has a profound effect on the offense and the defense there are hidden yards hidden points just little things that everybody always takes for granted. They show big time when they're not there or on the inverse if special teams has a great play that also shows is a big time for the offense or defense. One thing that was kind of interesting is just how many ball handling issues. The giants had this game had the bad snapped from. DRC which is something that doesn't happen often. Had the snap a bit a snap which Daniel Jones just let go right through his fingers lingers for a fumble and then learning the game there was the poor that almost looked like a fumble where the ball was obviously coming out CAS Jones through it basically. It looked like he got hit a Oh in real time it looked like he got hit and that was enough to jarred the ball loose but when they showed the replay is slow motion. You could actually see the ball. Come loose in his hand twisting around backwards as he was throwing the ball and that could have been in wasn't a fumble because his arm was moving but that was something that could have been very bad if there was a defender in the area so I wonder if maybe the ball with slick for some reason just the number of ball handling problems stood out to me in that even with the way both of these teams were playing. That was just kind of weird. Yup having that many issues with proper handling of the football it really comes down to an attention to detail just comes down to what the coaches are emphasizing in practice. If they're trying to make sure everything is clean inefficient or if they're okay with the status quo so I'm hoping in the bye week. More judgments are made in a lot. More focused on being cleaner in those things I also I don't think it would likely happened. But if if the OSCE has another bad game like this don't be surprised if they choose as the move on because the Aussie is towards the latter end of his career and something that some people might not recognize. But I'm very aware of is that the market for specialists is that if you make consecutive mistakes day will immediately pull the plug and get rid of you so the Aussies Probably GonNa. I'm hoping to have a better performance and step up from that. That's going to be it from us. 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"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash get up tonight on ESPN our latest thirty for thirty film looks at the Hall of fame career infamous exploits of Dennis Rodman. It's called Rodman in for better or worse. It's narrated by Jenny Jamie. Fox is tonight nine eastern on ESPN and the ESPN APP and you know Marcus made a good comparison earlier earlier this morning about Rodman in the circumstances he was in with the Bulls and I covered those teams in the ninety s and what Antonio Brown so to walks into now new England. It's an interesting parallel gee. That's it's the one that you point to because what you heard about Dennis Rodman before the time in Chicago that he was this outlandish brand guy he went into their culture won championships and abide by the rules for the time that he needed to. I think it'd be the same since he was still outlandish within that environment just as many rules as he had to with that we welcome you to another hour of get up as always we are live from the seaport district at pier seventeen were brought to you by chase and here is the menu. We're getting up with the saints. They marched back into their building last night and went to the final second with Houston. What a game. If you didn't see it full coverage. Is One minute away and then the raiders say. ABC can you later what a statement from the Oakland quarterback and company full highlights five minutes away and then if you think all going to be smooth sailing for a New England wait until until you hear what they just may have to put up with all that and more we get up with you starting right now in New Orleans Saints Texans Monday night like football the scene of obviously such a disappointing finish to their season last year but the saints are motivated and ready to go. Jj Watt meanwhile on the other side ready to make his season debut and then it just Shawn Watson. I early second quarter on a fourth down. What's makes him special green. You get him in space zone. Read fourth and running athleticism at the end of the clean leap into the end zone guy falls on his back though and did seem to be shaken up much of the night meanwhile second quarter. The saints are down fourteen three. Here's a huge moment that's Michael Michael Thomas on a seventeen yard plight. It is initially not ruled the. I doubt they decided to look at it. They decided to change it to a first down. Which is the right call? They decide because the clock had been running. They need a ten second runoff also the right call however they would later admit that they've made a mistake by not resetting fifteen additional seconds on the clock. That's the wrong call it. It cost the Saints Fifteen fresh seconds at the end of the half look at the fans in the stands of all things a bad calls against the home team in New Orleans on this night of all nights it it winds up leading to a fifty six yard. Try but we'll watch. That's no good so bookmark. That could cost them. The game down fourteen three at the half third quarter now Texan on a third-down up up by four the Shawn Watson at stay a little bit unknown thrown to will fuller but let's credit the Saints Defensive Secondary. The safety comes from one side of the field all the way to the other there and then we get the suplex from its that's exactly what it is d Andre Hopkins with the suplex on Marcus Williams after the game. He didn't like to call on Clinton. Talk Radio said you can't talk like that so I guess I'll play touch nice town too. He had a big night. You can't complain about the idea dropkin sad though that penalty might have been questionable saints looking to capitalize off the I N T fourth quarter down for drew brees finances man. It's so well done by the receiver when your quarterback breaks the pocket move with them. tweak wants. Smith opens up against man great vision by breeze Sino Minute Texans down by six I down. This is the first play of the drive. It's a thirty the eight yard completion of the Andre Hopkins have eight catches for one hundred eleven yards in two touchdowns in the game bear in mind. That's one guy who comes the second play of the drive. It's going going to be Watson. It's going to be Kenny stills or just came over and the Laremy Tunsil trade. It's GONNA be a thirty seven yard touchdown to give them the lead so well done by Deshaun Watson knowing the pressures coming off his left. He drifts to his right understands. He's GonNa get hit and yet still finds. Kenny stills in opening the defense great. Throw I say gives them the lead because because there's no way they're going to miss the extra point right. They're gonNA lineup for that. That's fairly routine. They'RE GONNA kick that they're going to have a one point lead in the final minute of this huge game on the road for are they. Oh Oh hold everything. He missed it right but hold it again C. J. Gardner Johnson ran into the kicker. There's no question about it. It's a good call. He comes flying in hits. The plant life and the face says it all on the sideline. He knows the huge mistake. He made his team the game because the Texans lineup they kick it this this time so now they have a one point. Lead and breathes has less than a minute to go here. We go one time out remaining the onetime address critical fifteen yard catch for Ted ginn junior Brazil's spike the clock. Stop it second and ten twenty seconds to play freeze Michael Thomas. They run up and spike it. They preserve the time out again. Six seconds to play not in field goal range yet they need nine yards and that's exactly what they get with two seconds remaining the final minute a work of art by drew brees and that sets up will watch his career long was fifty seven. This one is from fifty eight and a win win. Let's get to the what a thrilling drilling victory for the New Orleans Saints on Monday night opening. That's what this game's all about is bouncing back and be able to have your teammates. Have your back and make a kick like that's got to be a tough one moment for me for all of us just to get back into that situation where we had a chance to win the game we I think we all felt like it was going to happen in the minute. You heard that ball go off his foot. It was it was a thundering thundering kick. I think we all know scar going through the uprights it all Thomas Number nine can't all know what does he wanNA say dream. He does what he has to do his general he's the leader the the new We know we can get it done well. Kamara is right actually in the final two minutes number nine number. One drew brees as the best. QBR among the thirty five thirty-six qualified quarterbacks over the last three years listened to his numbers in the final two minutes last night he was three for five doesn't sound so good but the two completions were the spikes thanks now the ones where he grounded the ball or clock the football so a remarkable performance by breeze to cap off what was really an extraordinary game as well. I want to start with you here. I know you got some tape to demonstrate just a little bit of what we saw last night from bree as a defender sometimes you just in a bad way and what Sean Payton and drew brees is they look midseason four org. GM and I'm going to take a tape of the Tapia's Murray's touchdown and show you how difficult of a position they put you in as a defensive player. Look at this play here they remove Alvin Kamara from the box which but not mckinney so now you have five block and five and football. You Never WanNa have four at you. Always WanNA extra guy now. Look at the guy. That couldn't quite get there. The guy removed from the box and Bernard mckinney. Latavius Murray's makes the safety miss and he's he's in for a touchdown. Here's the thing we talked so much about giving these quarterbacks options right and we talked about the show watching being hit. Will you can create those situations. Informed Pre snap now. If I'm a defender. I'm looking back at my defense coordinator like a Romeo. We don't have enough people in this we in a bad way right now and that's what Sean Payton drew brees is done and when you start talking about super bowl teams. Sometimes you have to give your guys two answers before the play is already ran the other crackles to Alvin Kamara the fact that they could flex them out and put them in the slot. He is a very dangerous weapon and the fact that they could play him and murder together put so much pressure on defense and on the other otherside look. It's a great game and it's week one and both teams. I think are going to be quite good this year but I gotta be honest with you. I don't know if it's because I covered those two college championship games that he played in or picked them for MVP this year. I get mad watching. Shawn Watson get hit on every. I'm actually physically angry watching the game last night. What are we going to do about this because there's no way he gets through with season. It gets it on every play. I feel like we had this conversation. Last season. It's every week or movie over and over again we talk about Sean Payton and the way that they designed stuff for their offense and then you go watch Houston and I watched the tape last night and I'm watching them getting blitzed and not having a coup of how to pick up pressure. I'm watching them asking gay tight end to block Kim Jordan one on one and going. Oh I wonder why does Shawn Watson is getting hit. The Great Coaches Sean Payton's note what you do really well on defense offense and take that away and then he tacks. What you we get to Shawn. Watson is one of the Bro I'm GonNa say the same thing I said last year one of the bright superstars in all the NFL unless coach which will not do do something to keep them upright protect him look at that Hembo note on a per game basis. He's the most sat quarterback since they started keeping track of sats sacks. Excuse me he's in one thousand nine hundred and he's the most sect quarterback in the history of teams that went to the playoffs last year in six times last night. He said this before he dropped back thirty eight times last night he was hit forced to move or set on more than half of those that is unacceptable living in the NFL World Ed. The kid is special and it's just it just can't continue all right. That was the early game last night. Maybe you didn't stay up for the late game last night. Let's get the highlights of Jon Gruden season opener and Oakland taken on the broncos and obviously one of the big story lines around that team Antonio Brown and the Raider fans remember wealth now early first quarter Derek Carr saying. I don't need Antonio Brown. I got all these other guys including tighten down waller yet. This is an early connection Derek Carr. One came out really confident aggressive but I love the big high ball to waller so we can go up uses body catches waller seven catches seventy yards and then they have a wide receiver on this team. It's tyrone Williams yeah number one another confident throw by Derek Carr thrown ronin traffic with philosophy and trust second quarter. It's Williams at the top of the screen and you're gonNA see car on the play action. How about this. How about the air on that throw thirty in one play call tyrone. Williams gets inside gives them an opportunity to go run down the field and go catch it dear colleagues on fire riccar sixteen of Seventeen for one hundred seventy yards ars in the first half four though still a game the razor up fourteen six on that baseball diamond Josh Jacobs about looking good nice as name again Josh Stake Jacob. We're GONNA say often this season. Mr Duda not only a runner but it pass catcher in space and here he is again got tyrell Williams one more time. This one's going to go for twenty four a yard oncoming on another third-down critical three. They played a really good game last night offensively and then finally it's on Josh Jacobs to put it away. He had two touchdowns last night the last time a Raider score two touchdowns at his. NFL debut was nineteen. seventy-two Raiders Win it twenty four sixteen. Let's get the elephant out of the room and Tonio is no longer with us and we love Antonio. We wish him the best but we knew with the guys we had in our locker room. We already had a good football team and if he wanted to be a part of it awesome awesome you know we're gonNA come out here. We still have to play a game you know and again we wish him the best. I hope he goes off and has a great year but the guys in this locker room the guys that competed during training camp all offseason we grinded. We came together. We're a family and this family is pretty special and I'm glad to be the quarterback. quarterback part of it happened here in the last couple of days may have been you know big news to some but we're no distractions. I think you could tell that tonight. Our team's ready to roll. I mean my God. I mean I feel like someone smashing my temple on the side of the head. Get over it man. It's over you know we. We were good this preseason without him. We're GONNA be fine without him and we wish him the best but you know we gave it a shot and now knowingly gets their turn. Good luck to them but I just can't it I can't. I can't deal with anymore really sorry. I love it and look. It is their problem anymore and they get to move on. They came out of a terribly. I mean Mr T. Right. You made the point. The raiders come out of this terribly well they do from a standpoint. They gave up a third and fifth round pick. They're trying to recoup the money but I will say this from a football standpoint. When you look at John Ruin success a he's had big power running backs Michael Pittman Michael All star and I think this raider offense moving forward Greenie is going to go through Josh Jacobs. There's a great stat and the NFL runs runs plus completions. If you have more than your opponent eighty percent of the time you're GonNa win the game last night. They won fifty to forty four and there's a reason why the Denver broncos goes in that great defense had zero sacked Oakland was able to control the line of scrimmage and start with Josh. Jacobs wedged from the raiders last night. I saw a confident team and I I didn't see a team plan because of vendetta against Antonio Brown. I saw Oakland Raider team. That was playing that was that was absolutely despicable last year. If I could use that word on the field and this year their plan to their talent they're playing to their strength these young guys you got to remember to Clinton as young young guys on his team that wants to prove his league that they belong and they can be big time players. I'm almost thinking back if to marcus point a year ago the Khalil Mack thing the way that played played out. I think it left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of the other players in this case. I think they recognize the organization did everything they could and maybe this kind of brought them together. Remember last year with the Khalil Real Mac thing it almost felt like the t the organization was giving up on the team where this year the player a gave up on the team and so there is a galvanisation. I mean you WanNa Watch Derek Carr last night. This could be the best thing that happened to this team. I know there's going to be an impact on the field but this might be a rallying cry for this football team to prove. We didn't need you now having said that if you think the Antonio Brown piece of all of this is over you are quite mistaken fortunately or otherwise L. Dunkin. Let's cricket from there thank you. Greenie joined with. NFL Insider Jeremy Fowler we will get Tonio Brown but you do have shocking other news from around the NFL after hit exactly is there that after his Dang near perfect performance right in his season opener we heard Jerry Jones say of Dak Prescott new deal a deal was imminent where we at our now actually so didn't didn't work through the C. should be one of the highest pay quarterback league when this is done sometime this week possibly the highest but the hangup is guarantees structure. They've been working through these things because Jared Goff Carson Wentz young guys that got done recently. They had first round pick. Rookie deals two years left on his deal so they could roll that money over more to play with cowboys. Don't have that because Decca says one year to the but they've got to put some money up front. They plan to do that. They have to put some money for Mario Cooper correctly. Here's the problem. Amari Cooper is willing to wait. I'm told he's got thirteen point nine million this year franchise franchise tag next year is one thousand nine hundred twenty million so. I'm told he's being strategic and patient. They pay a lot of money for all their players but cooper's the one that I think will be the most difficult for the cowboys to get Asia. We witnessed dairy. Dearest guys go down in his season opener. with the latest on his knee injury on told guys has a meniscus issue. They're hoping it's a sprain but they're still working through full for clarity. They're but he'll miss a few weeks and Adrian Peterson is back. I know redskins teammates will be happy about that. It was basically team. MVP last year and so they had him out they were not not happy he was inactive last week. She'll be on the field first and second down team in. BP unable to dress in areas you knew he was going to find his way into the news and notes Antonio Brown what exactly exactly Jeremy Fowler as someone who covered the steelers for many years. What are the Patriots getting with the Antonio Brown show no manual for the Antonio Brown experience. It is unique nick partly because he has no concept of time he shows up late they might show afternoon. He'll leave the team waiting on the tarmac to go to road games and so that's the element going to watch can New England rain that in they're going to be finding them every day. And how is it going to handle. That can't get find here. Essentially his entire contract is incentive laden right so he has just fifteen games to hit all all these marks if he wants to get paid greedy keep it going. I tell you what Jeremy went through a variety of details a little bit earlier that we're really remarkable so as I was concerned about Antonio Brown and some of the things that happened in Pittsburgh that generally speaking kept quiet about being late for meetings falling asleep in meetings while listening to music keeping the team waiting while the plane is on the tarmac and all that that kind of stuff to someone who just sits on the outside and analyze stuff that sounds outrageous and unworkable. Obviously they work in Pittsburgh. How will it work in New England. It won't and I'm GonNa tell you gee this is. I've been thinking about this as we talked earlier. I've been thinking about this. This is the first situation Antonio Brown will be in where he will absolutely no that this team don't need you. Don't need you at all. That's so when we from a football standpoint or just in the building from a personality standpoint and then to bill belichick and Tom Brady bring in Josh go I think George Gardiner plays a big part in because of what they were willing to do for George Gardiner stand patiently him working with him through these they can only do this though this is only okay because it's the New England patriots trees in the other franchise organization would be haywire right now if they would assigned. Tony O'Brien at coach ballot check is saying. I really don't care what happened Pittsburgh. I don't care what happened okay. We're GONNA go by what we see today's Afresh Day. Let's stop one good day on top of the next. We'll go from there Josh Gordon and told me about those are great opportunities for the New England Patriots twits. They're low risk high reward and the way you minimize the noise. Is You just put one good day top of what's going to be interesting though is watching his body language when that offense is successful sessile and he has to go dig out of safety or when he hasn't been catches and they have four hundred yards of offense that to me will be the interesting part is how he handles the ability of the on on the field of not being necessarily the focus each week. I think the point that you make of minimize the noise is a big one because the noise has been manufactured by and so I'm super interested in what is the leash in New England like his it. Hey if he shows up to a meeting late once you're gone like is that the that the line of demarcation marcation is a social media posting that you don't get approved to be used her build a tantrum on the sideline like and I know gradient is has had head his outburst on the sideline but that's going to be a fascinating thing. I would love to be sitting in that room going. Where is the line to say you can or cannot because I I got imagine New England. He's got one shot but like Swag Bruce Point. He needs them more than they need him so he has to be on his best behavior. That's why I don't think we'll see that Sir behavior what would would start to find out he will be there. He'll be on the practice field with the Patriots starting tomorrow. Meanwhile a lot of other sports news out there to get to L. Let's get up and go all right. Jaguars placing Nichols on injured reserve on Monday meaning that the earliest that he could return is week eleven cuisine clavicle injury had surgery yesterday also treated a fifth round pick in two thousand twenty two steelers for quarterback Josh Dot so Mike. What are they getting in Dobbs. Oh I really like Josh ops. We try to treat for him in the past in Miami. He is athletic. He is smart. He's he's a era aeronautical engineer major so he's a guy that has really good upside very accurate with the ball. These are really smart trade for Jacksonville because it may not just be shorter art upsides compelling. Some news out of the college ranks yesterday as well with us the athletic director. Lynn Swann resigning on Monday Paul Finebaum your reaction reaction to hearing this news. I was overjoyed as a college football. This is the third straight time. SC has picked picked up a former player player but he was a miserable athletic director. The head Garrett had Hayden they had winds one who's next Reggie Bush. OJ Simpson's they run out of former player Paul. Tell us how you really feel and how about this one. The mets pick up a crucial three one win. Thanks to that kid peed Alonzo House of Yam I of his name forty six forty seven homeless season Multnomah game of the year and take hold sole possession rather of the major league home run lead was my trout's who sits at forty five so take a look at the numbers because not only get Alonzo become the first rookie in in the modern era the lead. MLB home runs but he's got a shot at reaching Aaron. Judge's all time record for the most home runs by a rookie because the mets have nineteen games left on the schedule for him to do it and well. He leaves yard quite a bit still ahead on get up. Drew Brees masterclass on the thirty seven second drive to victory our quarterback back dinner loss. He's got the inside story and how breeze got his team down the field so efficiently pluses Christian McCaffrey better than Saquon what did Jay Gruden loses team by sitting out. Ap All of those will be answered unrelievable night last night in New Orleans and lost in all of the late drama was early candidate for catch of the year from Willfuller. How does he catch this man. He puts on his helmet probably uses it dread or to to help them secure it. That's cats how `bout apples in great position there nothing else. He could have done catch if he stays healthy. Hopefully he'll maybe can block offer. 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What a game last night Monday Monday night football the first of the two featuring that man does Shawn Watson new at five game winning drives in the fourth quarter overtime last year and WanNa drive you put together in the final minute with his team down six on the road at New Orleans. It took them all to plays to get his team back. In the lead that was the first of them a thirty eight yard completion to Andre Hopkins who had eight catches one hundred eleven yards and two touchdowns touchdowns. Here's the very next play that's Kenny stills just came over a week and a half ago and the Laremy Tunsil training looking. I'm getting behind the defense makes the catch for thirty seven yard touchdown game tied at Twenty seven extra point foregone conclusion not so fast there there are no good but hold on roughing the kicker is called on CJ Gartner Johnson and it's a good call. Texans make the extra point Gardner Johnson. Nosy may have just cost his team the game but drew brees happen he gets the ball back with just over thirty seconds and one time out remaining had an NFL high seven game winning drives in the fourth quarter overtime last year. What a drive this was. That's Ted ginn fifteen yards spike it twenty seconds left. That's Michael Thomas and they spike at Thomas. Ten catches one hundred twenty three yards six seconds to play. Can they run one more place yes they they can three scope. They get the time out called on a nine yard gain to get and that sets up. We'll was his career. Long is fifty seven earlier in this -taining missed for fifty six. Fifty eight is good redemption. Nine is lots and the Saints Win Thirty Two twenty eight at home in front of with an ecstatic fan base in New Orleans that have been waiting for this one since January. What a game on a Monday night for offense offers to give us a lead with whatever it was forty seconds left into non win that game I mean that's bad football bias on defense and so we will take pick one hundred percent of that as you should. They every losses is tough. Jim Blown out losing fourteen. Seven losing field goal is very very tough Footba you know this is the NFL in games over especially with two great teams going back and forth you gotta get that kick your props. You know this. He did a great job for them into the chaplains. I tell you that the Texans are all too familiar with tight losses. Monday night was their fourth loss by three points or less into the start part of last season. Only the giants have more. This team hasn't lost by more than one possession since the last week of the twenty seventeen season all right. We're joined now by Dan Orlovsky. Mike Tannenbaum reads at best and then drew bledsoe. Our drew brees rather happened after the slop fest. We saw in Cleveland on Sunday. What did that final drive for. The saints. Tell you about preparedness that drew brees and Sean Payton are just a class above everybody else. Let's talk about the mechanics of how it happened. I've been so I wanNA point out two things on this play the receiver at the top and at the bottom of the screen okay to bite to two receivers down here to receivers but those guys are on the line of scrimmage member in the NFL. You've got seven guys scrimmage every point so that's the first thing that those outside receivers are on the line of scrimmage and every point second of all two minute drill. You know you need to get chunked completion. Three Defenders Surround Mike Thomas drew brees able to still make the perfect throw. We've talked about that in the past now support to point out that now the saints have two of their offensive guys time is running to their guys sitting right there but now we're going to get another third. Come into the picture and that's going to be now. The saints have three offensive guys towards the sideline left of the ball clock clock running great job of getting the official the ball you never wanNA throw it to them because they can't catch so make sure that you get him the football and but watch what happens. There's a very fine detail that you can so coaching and preparedness here so remember those three receivers that are up top right before the plate happened. It was the two who outside guys that were on the ball. Now they get the inside is on the football great coaching of detail because they're closest to the football. You guys don't get on the ball gives us a legal formation. Everybody else just gets sick. Time is of the essence we see teams all the time run around and A. and lose time because guys are prepared to that moment so then they get that spike outstanding operation in detail but I wanNA make this point right here. Everybody's what he's been crushing Romeo Cornell because there were so soft that's not soft. That's not soft. That's not soft and his coverage down on here is not solved. Drew brees like a gemologist film the only Guy Open on this play to throw the ball to cause remember vetos down here. That's another eight or nine yards. That's another second off the clock. The only person he could throw the ball to because of that nine yard cushion was to the tech in absolute masterclass and how the operated the details and the only reason that's available. Dan Is the New Orleans Saints. How one time out it means that the whole field is open to drew brees? The other part about that defense is the safety have to be further back because they have to worry about a hell Mary going over the top losing on the touchdown but having that at one time out is so critical because made Houston defend the whole field just outside the number surgery breeze with options is a dangerous quarterback also greedy. Did you know that that you can't throw the ball to the official because they don't know how to catch. It's fantastic. Sometimes they all week. One is now officially behind us in the national football league. There were a lot of interesting storylines especially. If you're a cowboy fan that Prescott became the first quarterback in team history with a perfect passer rating and only the second cowboy ever to throw for four hundred and yards and four touchdowns in a game Lamar Jackson spectacular threw for three twenty four and five touchdowns tying a ravens record led them to a franchise record fifty nine points and of course the Patriots blew out Pittsburgh by thirty the fourth largest margin of victory for defending Super Bowl champion in their season opener and so we're going to do a couple of topics picture with what we have available to us put some time on the clock and we will start with the Patriots again. They absolutely destroyed the steelers on Sunday night and then they had Antonio Brown last last. Check very nineteen point favorite on the road this week against Miami now bear in mind. The Dolphins of course are a whole different kind of story but we watch the Patriots they make the addition of Antonio Tony at Brown. They just seem to be getting better and better so as we put our first sixty seconds on the clock here is the first question should we just cancel the rest of the season and put the Patriots back in the Super Bowl. Go nope. There's a guy by the name of Mahomes and Kansas City a head coach by the name Andy Reid that does a tremendous job against the New England patriots. No matter the firepower quality. I think there are very good offensive teams. They can go toe to toe with the New England patriots this year in football listen. I'm not booking my plane flight to Miami but I'll see I'll see if I I can get a train ticket right now because this team's GonNa be top five in both offense and defense in the NFL and here's the thing with this two backs three wide receiver offense that they're gonNA run. You can't put linebackers on the field because the running back so where you out in the past game and you can't put secondary guys on the field because don't run the ball and if he does get his act together gather he's now got one of the most expensive receivers in the NFL but again. This defense is going to be just as good no. I'm not ready to the plane ticket but I will. I will surely early reserved myself a coach train bus or trainer bus ticket right now the bottom line of it is this if the AB thing doesn't work out then it's anybody's ballgame if the thing does work out in a big way that becomes the scariest offense in the League to go with as you say a top five defense that's the AFC arcus. Let's talk about your cowboys in the NFC. They'd lit up the giants in week one. How much of that was the giants. I guess it remains to be seen but Dak Prescott was perfect through for over four hundred yards four touchdowns under the new hot name the offensive offensive coordinator Kellen Moore so I'll put the same sixty seconds on the clock and I'm asked the same question so I do our we booking a flight to Miami for the Dallas Cowboys. ooh Say listen. This is why we just saw what drew brees does in crunch time. This is a team that may have to face. I will say this Greenie my super bowl. I'm second thoughts. I got the saints going to the Super Bowl from end up seeing the chiefs going in the NFC more than anything. That's my second guess. After seeing after seeing Kella more put him in tremendous situations and after CENA's Zeke run the ball after not playing football at all. This offense is going to be dangerous and we know what this defense can do. This team is as good as we thought they were going to be right. We talked all offseason that this is one of the best rosters in the NFL and telling you kellen Moore Rpo the the giants defense to death on Sunday. It was seven eight nine of them nope. I still don't even believe they're going to win their division. I said the eagles all those long long thirty two on the REDSKINS and a half but at that continues to play this well and Kellen Moore continues to be kind of steps ahead of defensive coordinators. It's going to be in the cowboys. Get Washington this week so we'll see next up. The panthers may have lost a close one at home to the rams on Sunday. The Christian Jim McCaffrey just continues to be ridiculous. He ran for one hundred twenty eight yards and two touchdowns. Just nineteen carries he also caught ten passes for eighty one yards those of us fortunate fortunate enough to have been playing him on our fantasy teams continue to be the lighted with Christian McCaffrey and so you know we always talk about Saquon and he's awesome and we talk about Zeke and he's awesome and Gourley sixty seconds on the clock Christian McCaffrey the best running back in the national football league go tale no Barclay I would've been I would've pigs Zeke before the season started after seeing saquon Barkley within anemic offense of bland average nine yards a carry against the Dallas Defense and also see the face face of what they're doing in New York when he's the only player on the field is sake one second so badly he had a receiver. McCaffrey doesn't get that opera. The only reason you're saying saquon is because the quads because you McCaffrey better than Saquon Barkley say allow. I believe that Christian McCaffrey is a better running back right now then Saquon Barkley by the way that doesn't incur that doesn't mean saquon Barkley absolutely ridiculous he is but what McCaffrey Jeffrey is doing right now we can now. It's only one week but we saw last season almost two thousand yards of total total scrimmage yards and then we'll be but here's the week one. It was a physical two hundred yards. I mean he was finishing runs and everybody on the field new the boat was going to McCaffrey so he's et worst in the conversation. I think he is in the conversation of quick final thought they stopped giving the ball to say corn. Yes the average again saquon amazing. I'm not doing I'm not belittling or minimizing as we continue there was some belittling going on in the NFL this past week. Delaney Walker was throwing shade at the browns. It's one of the best sound bites of the week. We heard what he said. Let's see what swag who says about the situation in Cleveland Plus Paul Finebaum on just how bad things are at his alma mater after the volunteers head coach compared his own team to the titanic that more as we continue get up on ESPN. What does swagger say gee. You know what I say. I say Dan Jones is a gangster Angie. Look at me. I'm already a bee's so we just going to be beastie. I call you broke. Yes Trauma Bro. You crash. This is not exactly how I meant for this to go and smoking. Okay it is time for swag as me where we hear things that other people say and then swag tells you what they really meant to say and it starts in. Cleveland that titans destroyed the browns on Sunday and after the game here's what Delaney Walker had to say about the browns. They were who we thought they were. If you want to Crown Crown they still got to play football and today we show we play better football so that's what Delaney Walker says what the Swag who say we won't always smoke when the Cleveland browns walk into our stadium because guys around television we've heard from Baker Weaver for how good this this is going to be. We won't smoke because in the NFL is about the land what do inbetween not the names not the the diva receivers not. The quarterback talks about everybody of the himself between Alaska's so you're saying there's going to be a lot of other guys out every weans out there every week laying in wait every week. Cleveland Brass yes every week next. Let's get to the cowboys and Dak Prescott. He was asked after an incredibly impressive week one performance forment if it was easy taking apart the giants here's what he said. It's Dan. If nothing's nothing's easy I Will Say Felt Like Well Oiled machine though I talked about last last night tour to the to the offense when we've got so many great players on that offense whatever eleven out there when you handle your one job on trust the other ten guys are going to do that. that's what Happens You are well oiled machine and you're able to just go and go and go and it doesn't matter if it's first and ten or if it's third and ten or its third and eight it doesn't matter and that is what they had to say what this who have to say. Hey Yeah it was easy and you saw the game. That's what they said Yeah. We'll we'll all machine. We believe in killing more. It was easy to order receive that will five yards open that doesn't happen in the NFL. I'm that Prescott about to give Pai. Tell them more as a boy wonder. It was definitely easy. Just how good is this Dallas team or at least let me ask the question different way. What can we tell based upon the giants because I think one of the things we learned this week as the giants defense is but we thought they were they can give it to your multiple ways and that that creates a different scheme for the cowboys that they hadn't had before more game. We talked about growth. Now you create weapons. Amaury is opening up the field. Jason witten coming back to me more about how they would function and operate arrate more than his particular production. This team has everything you need in order to win games and not to mention that thing that we don't talk about 'cause we never with stars. Piss off its of land or absolute beast no question so the cowboys off to a very good start. That's what swag who says now is what Paul has to say Paul Finebaum with us this morning and we're gonNA GONNA start with Michigan a twenty two and a half point favorite last week almost lost to army what if winning in double overtime would have been their first loss against a service academy since nineteen eighteen sixty seven so Michigan wins the game but there may be concerned and the part of many including myself about how they will perform again some of the better teams in the big ten of where they struggled struggled a little bit weak one situation. They shouldn't have last week and they need double overtime. How concerned is Paul Finebaum about Michigan. You have to be concerned greedy but I'm not writing them off. Yeah yeah because of what happened last year. Army took Oklahoma to overtime Oklahoma made it to the playoffs. Of course they also had collar. Murray Michigan does not in Shape Patterson. I think the problem of Michigan is this is Jim. Harbaugh just needs to back up and let his offensive coordinator. Gaddis run the offense and until that happens they are going to continue to struggle brought. It has been a tough start for harbaugh here again in a season in which it feels like all of the marbles in his corner right like this. This feels like if not now we've been kind of year for Jim Harbaugh no doubt and without Urban Meyer you look at Ohio State. They don't look any different than in fact they they looked really good with Justin feels you can make the comparison the Haskins but but he is unbelievable right now so the only thing harbor has in his favorites at Ohio state comes Ann Arbor but before then he he's gotTa deal with Wisconsin a couple for weeks. He has Notre Dame. The Path is not easy. I I'm not writing them off. If they lose to Wisconsin or or Notre Dame people are going to pile on Jim Harbaugh and with justification mm-hmm and then that brings us speaking of piling on to your Alma Mater. I've been waiting for this all week. Tennessee blue a second-half double digit lead to Byu and ultimately ultimately lost their football game in double overtime the volunteers are Owen to for the first time since nineteen eighty eight and head coach Jeremy Pruitt had this to say eight to the Knoxville quarterback club on Monday comparing the program to the titanic he said quote. I think titanic came out. Maybe when I was in college when the boat starts going down member all those mice running to the top we have had a few that's left our program but you will figure out who wants to be Tennessee vol and who doesn't that's what Jeremy Pruitt had to say Paul what you have just say about the mice running on the titanic of mice and men. I always thought rats went to the top of the ship could have been worse he he could have said we acted like we were in hangover to they looked at drunk. They really did Jeremy Pruder's off to a miserable start. Remember how he got the job. Though the former athletic director was is on his seventh turned down when he got fire when he wanted to bring Mike Leach in so Phillip Fulmer took over and Pruitt at best was the eighth choice so sometimes you get what you pay for four. I thought he would be a better coach. He he may still be right now. He is off to a miserable start and so give me a sense should the expectation just be ratcheted down. We know and you're part of the country. People have have high expectations even when they seem unrealistic and we know what the history is but the history is a long time ago yeah at Tennessee Paul. Do they need to change. The expectation for this program they need to do is keep quick. Firing coaches every couple of years and remember Lane Kiffin was in there he was replaced by Derek Dooley and then Butch Jones they change he left on his own that the Kiffin Hitler SC Right. That's what I mean. They didn't fire the next three. We're Gone Tennessee is not Alabama. They're not Georgia. They're not even fly. They want to be right. They weren't were and the question is will they ever be again and what's the answer. I'm not sure I'm not in the foreseeable future not anytime soon and will it be with this coach you standing by him. I it's it's hard to believe it will be all right. There's pauline he's got the very latest on all of this an interesting little moment in the college football season meanwhile to Baseball L. Let's run the basis through specifically the the American League. There's going to be new winner of the this season. Red Sox from contention for the division crowd after their five home loss to the Yankees last night that was kind of a foregone conclusion Asian but the Yankees Fourteen wins over the Red Sox are the most over Boston and the divisional era that is since nineteen sixty nine about the Stroz they followed all lit up Sunday's twenty-one run outburst with another fifteen runs last night and a fifteen shot at at the as Houston hit seven months on the night of that to an eleven oh lead after just two innings brings the Astros plus thirty five run differential over the last two games as the fourth best to game span in the modern era and how the Indians gaining some ground on oakland the wildcard chase after their six two win in Anaheim last night strong outing from all star. MVP Shane Bieber who was anything but d'esposito breeds for minute fired seven innings of one run ball the producers laughing so win. here are your. Al Wildcard standings as we approach postseason baseball as is lost. 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BGN Memories #9: Super Bowl 39 and Andy Reid's Redemption

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BGN Memories #9: Super Bowl 39 and Andy Reid's Redemption

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How Popular Music Works and why it matters at your favorite bookseller? Thanks Dorky. Football mcnabb is back. He is firing talk pants. Four still implantable Philadelphia tables aren't super bowl champions. You're listening to BGN memories with John Stolnis Palo Fleeting Green nation and welcome back to another edition of BG and memories powered by SP nation and bleeding green nation. I'm your host John Stolnis than you can follow me on twitter at John Stolnis on this edition of Vga and memories. We are going to take a look back at Super Super Bowl thirty nine. The first super bowl that Andy Reid coached in. We're GONNA take a deep dive into the decisions read made during the course of losing that Super Bowl to the New England patriots. Twenty four to twenty one. We're doing this in honor of the fact that Andy Reid is going to be coaching his second Super Bowl in a couple of weeks leagues with the Kansas City chiefs When they take on the San Francisco Forty niners and eagles fans? Of course do not remember this game fondly. But it's been a long longtime it's been fifteen years since we've really taken a close look at this game in preparation for this podcast. I re watched the game and it's the first this time I had sat down and Rewatch the entire game from beginning to end since watching. It live because I didn't want to watch it again. It was a painful memory. Marie that was a that was a frustrating game to watch one of the most frustrating eagles game in franchise history. It was great to get there to finally win that fourth. NFC Championship game. After losing the first three I was at the fourth NFC championship game when they got to the Super Bowl and obviously the city was was elated just to get there and the team played hard. The Eagles in that Super Bowl did not play like a team. That was happy to be there. They played their rear ends off but it was a game filled with mistakes and it was a game that after it was all done would not put Andy Reid in a very positive light. And it's a game that has really shaped shaped the fans perception of him all these years later a decade and a half later the game we most fans remember. Andy Reid foremost is super bowl. Thirty nine and especially how the game finished up in the last six minutes. But let's set things up here just a little bit coming into Super Bowl all thirty nine. Both the Patriots and Eagles were the best teams in their conference. Both number one seeds both had tremendous seasons. The Patriots went fourteen and two that season season as they were looking for their third super bowl title in four years. Obviously Tom Brady was just beginning his run as the greatest quarterback of all time but he'd already established himself as a two time superbowl champion. And so the odds were stacked against the eagles a little bit in the Super Bowl although the eagles were far and away the best team team in the NFC that season having gone thirteen and three really they were essentially a one loss team. They lost to the Pittsburgh steelers in the middle of the season but they had clinched the number for one seat in the conference with two games left in the season and basically didn't play anybody in the final two games and that's why they went thirteen and three. The Eagles probably could have been a fifteen in one team if they'd actually played their starters in the final two games of the season but thirteen and three is nothing to sneeze at and it was certainly good enough to get them the number one seed in the playoffs The Eagles defeated the Minnesota Vikings rather handily in the NFC divisional round and then in the NFC championship game. As you heard me talk about on the last edition of BG and memories when we took a look back at the ten greatest moments in Eagles NFC championship game. History when they dispatch the Falcons pulling away in the second in half winning that game. Twenty seven to ten on New England also had a pretty easy time in the postseason. They won their divisional round game against the Indianapolis Colts. It's twenty two three and then they won the AFC title against the steelers. Forty one to twenty seven. Bill Belichick Charlie. Weis the offensive coordinator at that time for New England Oakland and on the side. Of course you had Andy Reid calling the plays and Jim Johnson The defensive coordinator at the Blitz Happy Defensive Coordinator one of the big story lines. The the biggest story line going into Super Bowl thirty nine was of course the health of terrel owens who was hurt against the Dallas cowboys a few weeks before the end of the season He had A. He broke his leg on a horse collar. Tackle that has now been deemed illegal because of that hit but as the game started getting closer it started to appear as though Teo Jio would be able to get on the field and Tara loans for the Eagles in two thousand and two thousand four was the difference. He took the eagles from being a very very good team. Urine in your out to an almost unbeatable team That season in fourteen games really was just thirteen games because he was hurt early in that game against the cowboys he caught seventy any seven passes for twelve hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns for the eagles that season for the first time in his career. Donovan mcnabb had a true number one receiver seaver to throw the ball to but the eagles offense performed quite well whether well without Tara loans in the two playoff games but to beat the Patriots it was clear the eagles goals. We're GONNA need him and he managed to get. He managed to get back in time six weeks after surgery to repair his broken right ankle. He was on the the field for the start of Super Bowl. Thirty nine Donovan. mcnabb had his best season. An Eagle in two thousand and four mostly because terrel owens was on the outside and he and mcnabb was outstanding in two playoff wins against the Vikings and the Falcons mcnabb had always struggled in those NFC title game but he played very well against Atlanta Atlanta. One or the other storylines that Freddie Mitchell was running his mouth. He came into the game talking a lot of smack about safety Rodney Harrison telling Harrison that he he was gonna have something for him and then in the game you know Freddie Mitchell caught one pass which late in the fourth quarter and Harrison had Two interceptions as we'll get to here in just Dominica and of course the Patriots were looking to officially become a dynasty. They had beaten the rams had upset. The Rams in the Super Bowl three years before they had failed to get back to the super bowl the year after that. But in two thousand three or just after the two thousand three season they beat the Carolina Panthers and one of the most underrated super bowls in NFL NFL history. And we're looking for their third title in four years. Andy Reid looking for that first title after finally getting the Eagles back to the Super Bowl for the first time since nineteen eighteen eighty so that was the setup as the teams gathered on the field in Jacksonville Florida for Super Bowl. Thirty nine. So let's jump into the first quarter here and right away things things got off to an auspicious start. You could just tell how things were gonna go based on what happened in the first series on third and three play just one minute into the game. mcnabb appears to fumble the ball after avoiding a sack on his own forty-six it was initially ruled a sack on the field. However over mcnabb's knee was down? The Eagles challenged the play and mcnabb's knee was down. But it was a sign of things to come somehow stays on the street loose. The Patriots Habit. The Eagles off of line had all kinds of trouble. Picking Up New England England blitzes in that series and it would be a continuing trend throughout the game with three fourteen left in the first quarter after the defense forced New England to punt McNab throws an killer interception on second in Long. But it's wiped out thanks to illegal contact call so the Eagles get a huge break as mcnabb just he just throws up in the air. There was really no chance of it being caught by an eagles player and it was intercepted in the end zone that interception wiped out thanks to an illegal contact call but on the very next play first and ten from the New England. Nineteen mcnabb did it again. This is the AW I down from the nineteen mcnabb goes toward the end zone. Intercepted by Rodney Harrison backs his third interception of this post-season and his fifth overall overall in the last five postseasons and that one was up at looks like Rodney Harrison. Got Hurt on this play and that is the bigger story right now. Will Rogers once Rodney a Harrison. He's coming over the top the entire way. He's reading Donovan mcnabb. He read them on the previous play. Here's Ariza right here. He's just GonNa read Donald mcnabb. Who never never takes his eyes off the left side of the field and Harrison? Just raise the right over. The taw Harrison was able to get out and walk off the field under the result. Is the Patriots start now from their own free. Those were too brutal throws in a row by mcnabb mcnabb looking for Westbrook in the corner of the end zone on and under through him just floated. The ball is locked on Westbrook as you heard as you heard the commentators talking about Joe Buck Troy Aikman and Chris Collins Worth and so the eagles are turned away from a great scoring opportunity. They could have gone up three nothing for sure they were driving. For a touchdown I ten at the New England. Nineteen and mcnabb's interception in wipes away a great scoring opportunity however the Eagles defense stiffens after a three and out the eagles get the ball back at the New England forty five yard line great field position. -sition here on Third and eleven mcnabb completes this eight yard past l.. J. Smith likely was not going to get the first down but L. J. Smith saw to it that the eagles would get absolutely nothing on this drive with turnover number two of the opening quarter Harrison. Losing the football is L.. J. Smith recovered by New England. Eugene Wilson comes away with it or one thing you have to know. It's a receiver. What's your banking initial contact and guys are no longer trying to tackle you? They're trying to hold you up there clearly here. Trying to hold up L. J. Smith now the balls exposed Randall. Gay comes in and knocks the ball phrase. It would have been interesting to see if Andy Reid would have gone for it on fourth down there because it likely would have been fourth in two or fourth in three from about the thirty seven yard line if it was Doug Peterson you know he would have gone for it because it was probably a little too too long for a field goal. Try but you're not punting from that part of the field it's a perfect fourth in short time to go for it. But we know Andy Reid never went for it in those types of situations. Really no coaches at that time. Fifteen years ago we're going for it in those situations and so The Eagles probably would have punted wanted or try and along field goal. Maybe try a fake field goal in that situation either way they didn't get the opportunity with the L. J. Smith turnover and L J Smith. He you know he's he's A. He was a good young player at the time he didn't turn out to be a franchise tight end. They really Miss Chad. Lewis in this game having the dependable Chad Lewis sit tight end as mcnabb. Safety Valve might have really helped certainly would have been helpful to have on the field but Chad Lewis of course Injured his ankle ankle in the NFC championship game. After his two touchdown performance and so L. J. Smith was the starter in this game and Donovan. mcnabb did not have one of his normal security blankets in super bowl thirty nine so at the end of the first quarter. Even though the eagles dominated this opening quarter were in New England territory virtually the entire time. I am the first quarter ends with the score tied at zero so we come to the second quarter and one thing that happened throughout the game was the eagles were coming. To the line of scrimmage late every single time that was running problem with the eagles was get was Andy. Reid getting plays in on time to Donovan. mcnabb not not just in this game but in virtually every eagles game it seemed like the Eagles were always rushing to the line with seven to ten seconds and mcnabb having just not not able to look at the defense an audible if he needed to had to just get to the line and call the play because plays took forever to get in so mcnabb clearly just calling calling whatever play was called. Didn't have time to to get into anything else. That's very different from how Doug Peterson does things with Carson wentz Carson. He gets the plays. You can Z.. As soon as a place over Doug's already got the sheet in front of him and getting in the headset on which played a call. Carson wentz gets the team to the line with fifteen or twenty seconds left so he can survey the field so he can make some pre-snap reads and he can see what the can look at what the defense is showing him. Unusually whence has a couple of places to choose from and then he can go ahead and choose. Is that play. You wonder how much more effective the offense would have been if we'd had allowed Donovan mcnabb to do that sort of thing. But he didn't and so they're getting into the line late on every play here in the early going however in the second quarter the eagles finally after a couple of trips into New England territory. They they have their first scoring drive as Donovan. mcnabb hit Todd Pinkston for this huge gain down the field five glitz coming from the Patriots perhaps steps down the middle takes down inside twenty mark. I'm at the seventeen and by at the time this drive ends. The Eagles had thirteen plays thirteen plays in opponents territory. Compared to the Patriots having zero plays in Eagles Territory Tori and that thirteenth play was this touchdown catch from Donovan. mcnabb to the aforementioned eljay Smith back back from Nick Smith just really a good point here by Donovan mcnabb commits what he's looking for Daryl and he's working against the size Samuel that ban illegal contact should've been actually and then he gets back inside the tide L. J. Smith was fighting through Donald team or that was just a fantastic effort by ellen sped. I mean he absolutely got hit by three. Different guys is trying to find an opening mcnabb. Stay with us so the eagles strike first so again. Eagles have dominated this game up to this point. But with the interception and with the fumble they only lead seven to nothing and they. They should have been up by ten or even by two touchdowns at this point in the game mm-hmm and things may have been very different. Had they not turn the ball over early in this game. New England now started to make some adjustments on offense court offensive coordinator. Charlie Weiss decided to spread things out and go with a spread offense to combat. Jim Johnson's blitzing scheme and Johnson couldn't adapt Jim. Johnson had an awful game here are and I know a lot of people wanNA WANNA talk about spy gate and I have thought I do think. The Patriots had an advantage over the eagles with spy gate. I don't it's it's never been directly linked to their super verbal win over the eagles the whether or not the whether or not patriots coaches had spied on the eagles learn their signals. Or whatever. There's always been a lot of speculation. I've always speculated that the Patriots knew what the Eagles were going to do because they had maybe gotten an unfair advantage. But what Charlie did here was pretty simple after the for in the first four drives of the Game New England couldn't get anything going trying to run the ball from a bunch formation so they started to spread things out they started to go with with a lot of four wide receiver sets. That's because they wanted to get Jeremiah. Trotter off the Field Jeremiah. Trotter was great as a middle linebacker in the run game but he was not as effective in the passing game. And so when you get four wide wide receivers on the field. You're doing a lot of quick passes. A lot of Lincoln dunks a lot of shotgun you render Jeremiah Trotter largely ineffective in that type of an offense and so you had to bring being in Greece to play in the passing game and whenever they would do that New England with jam. The ball down their throats with corey dillon and Kevin Faulk and starting at this point point in the game. The Eagles defense made some plays. I mean New England and go crazy. The scored twenty four points in this game but the eagles were not able to get to Tom. Brady Brady had time to throw. It was clear that Weiss had had figured some things out and Brady started getting the ball out quicker to neutralize that blitz drove the ball inside the eagles those ten yard line on the ensuing possession after the eagles touchdown drive. And that's when Tom Brady decide but you know. Listen Tom. Brady's great but he ain't perfect and that's when he he decided to get into the turnover game himself brady loses it on the action and now the pile. They're not so sir. Tom Brady got on it. It looked like at the very end Brady lost. It had to tell them how Walker Walker came out of Macau still down there. Scott says hey so. The Eagles gotTA turnover they they. Ed mean he matched mcnabb's turnover is essentially. What happened there? So maybe you could cancel the mcnabb interception and the Tom Brady fumble out. Maybe that's a fair way to look at it. It's you know if you're GONNA if you're going to criticize one team for a turnover you've got to criticize the other team for blowing a scoring opportunity. And that's what happened here. Brady could have gotten a field goal. Gotten it back to seven to three or tied the game at seven so brady turns the ball over there with that Botched handoff in the Eagles get the ball back but they go three and out and Punter Dirk Johnson is an shanks a punt. New England has the ball on the eagles. Thirty seven yard line to start their next drive with a little over four minutes left in the half seven plays later Brady and the Patriots finally on the Board Second Goal Brady fires at is given Touchdown lead a shepherd. Believe the. Tom Brady threw all the way across his face in the outside Brady radio great manipulator with his eyes he knows how to work a defense look. He's looking left looking down the field. He looks at the slot. Receiver and last-second does all the way why by the touchdown take a look at Lido Shepherd. Right there waiting and he had nowhere to go David. Gibbons over there on the sidelines was clearly league is man and just because he antipated at. Tom Brady could not make that throw. He's unable to make a play on the ball that I should never have happened Lido Sep.. I should've been over there on David and that was an infuriating. Play to give up as Lito Sheppard was just lost. Givens in the side of the end zone Brady threw it off his his back foot and Lino Shepherds didn't think Brady had the arm strength to get the ball over there to win the ball to the to the far side of the field on his back foot from the far hash. He's watching Brady the whole time. He's watching the play the whole time. You can see Lido Shepherd. He's giving gibbons a good five yards off to the side because he thinks he'll be able to make up the ground in time to get over there and knock it away or he doesn't think Brady will even attempt to throw brady attempts to throat throws a perfect pass. Shepherd has has no chance and shepherd just looks ridiculous on the plate. So it's a touchdown that never should have been given up but after controlling the game for most of the first half the the Eagles and patriots went into the locker room tied at seven. Seven when you look at the pure statistics it doesn't look like as it doesn't appear as lopsided it has it was but as I mentioned earlier going midway into the second quarter the eagles had run thirteen plays in Patriots territory. The Patriots had run zero plays. He's in Eagles territory. The Patriots led the eagles in rushing yards fifty eight to thirty seven. The eagles lead in passing yards. One forty one to ninety in total yards. The Eagles led one seventy the eight to one forty eight third down. The Patriots were one of five on third down. The Eagles were five for nine. The Patriots had turn the ball over once the eagles twice. The Patriots actually lead in in time of possession. Fifteen thirteen to fourteen forty seven but that's because the eagles had very good field position and short fields for much of the first half and that's is an issue here. I mean that that was the thing. The Eagles had all the chances in the world to go up to scores on this team and they didn't and so they go into halftime having made some plays but still tied at just seven seven. When we come back we'll talk about the second half the more interesting half of this game right right after this break here on? BG and memories. I'm Jillian Weinberger host the impact to a podcast from vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season. 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These are the stories that will help us understand what might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years. Subscribe to the impact on Apple. podcast cast or your favorite podcast APP to get new episodes now so so after sir. Paul McCartney performs at halftime we enter the third quarter with the score tied at seven and the Patriots. Got The ball first and something something to think about here. Is that Paul McCartney playing at the halftime show. Every halftime show half times are much longer at the Super Bowl than they are during during the regular season during the regular season halftime about twelve minutes long for teams there in the in the locker room for about twelve minutes here at the Super Bowl. It's about twenty five minutes. That is a ton. None of time for teams to make halftime adjustments and Charlie Weis. Fix them things on the fly during the second quarter of the game but given twenty five minutes to prepare. The Patriots came out with answers for the eagles defense and again. Maybe some of those adjustments based on spy gate. Maybe they weren't twenty five minutes if you're really smart. Offensive minded coach is an eternity to help you do to help you figure out what you're going to do next and so when the Patriots. I've got the ball first. Thanks to some of those halftime adjustments. They figured out the Eagles Defense and drove the length of the field. To score the go ahead touchdown Raven label on the end of the line. Brady action tires. You got no signal touchdown. Is there the penalty flags hauling ninety touchdown and all of a sudden sudden. New England is up by touchdown. Fourteen to seven felt like the eagles were in control of this game the whole time and suddenly the eagles are down. The Eagles would never lied again. The Eagles and Patriots traded drives. That didn't go far so the Eagles get the ball back in the third quarter with seven fifty two left on their own twenty six and now mcnabb in the passing game got ought they moved the ball methodically down. The field got six first downs on the drive and ended with a touchdown strike from Donovan. To Brian Westbrook touchdown that tied things up at fourteen peace with a little over three minutes left in the third quarter. Nobody would score in the remainder of that quarter so we move ahead to quarter number four and the Patriots. The Patriots took the ball on their own. Thirty four and went on another long drive. Brady threw passes to Troy Brown to Kevin Faulk to dion branch and some solid running back. Corey Dillon and Faulk took the patriots down to the Eagles too with thirteen. Forty nine left in the game. Holstein is Dylan touchdown patriots. After that touchdown the Patriots now lead twenty one to fourteen gene with thirteen. Forty four left. But you still felt good about the eagles chances they were moving the ball at times they had some drives stall out Donovan. mcnabb was erratic in this game. Lots lots of high passes he was. He was over anxious Lots of you know. Some of his typical worm balls and I you know. Listen I love Donovan mcnabb. But in some of these big games he he played small and he he was erratic he was way too excited. The demeanor the difference in demeanor between Donovan mcnabb and the Super Bowl and nick foles who was unbelievably calm and Serene and on fire in that game. It really goes to show how much how much better a quarterback plays. When he's in control of himself and Donovan mcnabb was just not in control of himself he was? He was hyper kinetic he was. You could just tell that. He was so amped up and and over for thinking things for so much of the game that it was causing so many of his passes to be behind receivers too high too low and but but even given all of that mcnabb was making plays. But you knew they were. The Eagles are going to have to continue scoring because the patriots offense had figured out the eagles defense and Brady had that look look to him. You knew that he was going to keep pushing the ball down the field and unfortunately this time around the offense could not answer. mcnabb threw low to Dorsey Levens Brian. Brian Westbrook lost six yards on a run play. And then there was an incompletion to Greg. Lewis that force an eagles punt the Patriots got the ball back and Super Bowl. MVP branch finished off a career career game with one of the big plays on this drive. This nineteen yard grab action. Brady down. Catch deion branch took it away from Sheldon Brown and that was good for nineteen boy. I'd say Sheldon Brown. You just simply can't cover anybody better than that. He runs right underneath around. He knows yes home over the top and certainly has the ball taking away from right there in perfect coverage branch was named Super Bowl. MVP because because of his performance catching a career high eleven balls for one hundred thirty three yards just a ridiculous performance from him a roughing. The passer call on that. I play moved the ball to the eagles. Sixteen Yard Line. The Patriots would eventually get it down to the eagles four but thankfully eagles defense stiffened enforced an atom unitary field field goal from twenty two yards out to give New England. A ten point lead with eight forty three left so again still plenty of time. A ten point deficit with eight forty. Three three left certainly doable. The Eagles had lots of time to close the gap and it looked for a few minutes like they were going to do that as mcnabb. Hit Owens for this huge play mcnabb fires the past internalize into the open field getting into the Patriots territory to mark the thirty seven. It look like they're going to at least get a field goal but then mcnabb made his most critical mistake of the game. Lebanon's emotion on first down mcnabb fires high passes intercepted by Lebanese. Flashing across the middle. mcnabb was too high. Aim tedy Bruschi one of the defensive leaders for the Patriots. was there waiting for him. Just an awful pass from mcnabb. Dorsey Levens item was staring at him. The hallway it was a brutal pass. The one thing that eagles absolutely could not do in that situation was turned the ball over and they did so at this point in the game. The Eagles goals offensive issues. Only having two touchdowns I don't lay at the feet of Andy Roddick With the exception of getting plays in late they didn't have any any delay of game calls. They didn't have to burn any timeouts because they were getting in plays in late. I think the play designs were good. They had receivers open they they had they had plays available to them and mcnabb was erratic and and that was the. That was the big problem. Here Andy Reid to this point was calling a good game I think he was. I think he was extremely effective. Donovan mcnabb turning the ball over over with his two interceptions really hurt the team so the Patriots get the ball back with a little over seven minutes to play. The Eagles did force three now and got the ball back on their own. Twenty twenty-one with five minutes and forty seconds left to play and this is the drive that everybody remembers. It's from this point on in the game where Andy read and Donovan. mcnabb were both arm in arm to torpedo. The Eagles chances of winning their first super bowl they were down by ten. They had five minutes and forty seconds to play. They had I believe it was two of their three timeouts at this point. They needed to show urgency. They needed to go hurry up but they didn't. The Eagles start things off. Throwing short passes in the middle of the field to Brian. Westbrook to Dorsey Levens and the clock just keeps running Philadelphia fans screaming at the TV. Saying hurry up. They're letting a lot of time flick away here. Unbelievable how much time will spending. I don't understand this at all. No huddle offense is much time on the clock as possible. Rocking up. To the line of scrimmage its third downtown there was a snap where mcnabb wasn't expecting it and so they they have to just fall on the ball. Time wasting racing. The clock is ticking tick tick tick tick. Finally the Eagles get the ball in the end zone. On this thirty one yard touchdown bomb from mcnabb to Greg Lewis to make it a three point game with just under two minutes left Utah. It's not finish. We set early. The Greg lowest concern ballot check much more than Freddie Mitchell and it's because of his speed Freddie Mitchell does a great job running the route it gets returned just as a terrific job. There actually is Greg. Gloss Break Louisana touchdown does a great job safety. Turn and get the touchdown so that makes it twenty four to twenty one but that was a thirteen play seventy nine yard drive. That ate up three minutes and fifty two seconds off the clock. It took way too long so with their two timeouts but now they're under the two minute warning joining. The Eagles had to attempt onsides kick because yes they could stop. They could stop the clock twice but if they if they didn't get the onside kick New England could run the clock down to well under a minute leaving. The eagles virtually no time at all. Now David Akers was the best in the NFL onsides kicks but many of those successful successful conversions were when teams. Were expecting it. But if you had if you had confidence in any kicker to to to have a successful onsides kick it would be David Akers. Unfortunately this was not one of his good ones at bounced right to a New England. Receiver the Patriots poundstone it. They were ready for the onsides. Kick that got the ball. At the Eagles forty-one they ran three plays the eagles defense stiffened and they didn't allow a first down but they punted the ball away to the eagles. Five Yard line with forty six seconds left and then on third and nine from on their own five a third Donovan mcnabb interception interception ended the eagles chances of winning their first super bowl. It's going to be almost impossible for them. Advocates needed past and one another player have to really awesome. Throw down. The middle of the field passes by Harrison Harrison. Takes it in and nine seconds Mamane and the New England patriots are on their way to solidifying their team as an NFL dynasty so the Eagles Lose Super Bowl thirty nine twenty four to twenty one and we have to double back and talk about that penultimate drive a little bit more. There is a lot of discussion as far as whether or not Donovan mcnabb threw up in that final mile drive did he. He Says No. It's impossible to tell on TV broadcast. You can't see it if it happened. What's clear is that plays were not getting into mcnabb with any speed whatsoever at the beginning of that drive? They were huddling. And it wasn't because Donovan mcnabb was tired at the beginning. I I don't and I maybe mcnabb was checking down a lot in in those situations but to many short passes to any passes over the middle of the field. There was no urgency urgency whatsoever. They were not going no huddle debate rages over. Who who is more to blame? Was it mcnabb. Who is more to blame for? This was it Andy Reid you know frankly he was probably a little bit of both because at first it did look like the plays were coming in late and they were looking for short completions to kind of move the ball once the clock dot inside three minutes to me. E- It looked like Donovan. Got Tired and was calling teammates into the huddle and I think the TV crews mentioned something about that as well the fact that it looked like some of the Eagles Eagles players wanted to go no huddle but mcnabb was calling them back to the huddle role. Even Freddie's walking around you gotta get him lined up and get on the ball and they're still going to the huddle remark. Hey Fraley the center was saying come on get up the Lions Greenwich and then Donald Call Him back into the huddle just looks like they're orange. So was that was that Andy Reid or was that Donovan mcnabb was Andy Reid trying to go no huddle was he trying to go. Hurry up under three minutes or was mcnabb tired and needed a breather and that's why he was calling players into the huddle we don't really know. ESPN's John Clayton wrote about outreach. Clock management in that drive after the game tight end L J Smith said. I don't know what happened. Andy Reid said well we were trying to hurry up. It was the way things worked out. What does that mean? Exactly I know. Is he trying to not buried. Donovan mcnabb is he trying to say well we were trying to go. Hurry up but my quarterback DOC was too tired. My quarterback didn't have enough energy to go into the hurry up. That could be what Andy Reid is saying there but there really isn't any confirmation as far as what happens. We still don't know exactly what happened in the second to last drive of the game but people forget about Andy Reed's awful clock management at the end of the first half and that was a part of Clayton in story as Clayton reported the beleaguered eagles coach took even more criticism at the end of the first half. The Eagles with the score tied seven seven had the ball at their nineteen yard yard. Line with one minute. Ten seconds left Donovan. mcnabb completed a ten yard pass to Todd Pinkston but reed did not call time out. The clock went from forty three seconds. Seconds to seventeen seconds mcnabb Pinkston for a fifteen yard completion on third and short to convert the first down and then read called his first time out of the a half. Suddenly the eagles were at their forty one yard line when they could have gotten enraged for David Akers field goal. Instead they ended up having to unused timeouts and had had had to answer questions from the media. I don't remember that at all to be honest with you. Read said of the halftime question. That's all from the. That's all from the John Clayton piece right after the game was over. I like Andy Reid. I think he was a great coach. He had so many great characteristics so many great qualities he turned the franchise around and made them one of the marquee teams in the NFL for a decade but he had some fatal flaws he still. Oh has those fatal flaws. We've seen his clock management flaws. Come up with the Kansas City chiefs. In recent seasons. This was not a shining moment from this game was naughty auty shining moment for him. The end of the first half if that was Doug Peterson. You know they're going. They're they're pushing the ball down the field. This shows the difference between how Doug Peterson. Peterson approached the New England patriots in the Super Bowl. And how Andy. Reid approached the New England patriots in the Super Bowl. Reed did not WanNa give the Patriots and other opportunity. He was more concerned. Learned about not letting the Patriots get another chance instead of we have the opportunity to get another score before the end of the half especially especially when you consider that New England was going to get the ball first in the second half this is. This is a situation where Doug Peterson would have pushed the ball down the field. He wouldn't have worried about whether or not. Tom Brady. Got Another opportunity before halftime. He's GonNa go. He's going to try and get a score knowing that New England's going to get the ball first in the second half Andy. Reid played it exactly differently when when I did Bryant winner. Brian Westbrook lost a yard on a running. Play with the first this. Play of Of this Dr. Before halftime he was the Patriots ended up calling a timeout. Because yes the Patriots thought. Okay Hey maybe we will have an opportunity to get the ball back. That's when Andy. Reid went into his shell but they completed a ten yard pass to todd. PINKSTON was a three yard loss by Westbrook. Pardon me they get a ten yard pass to Pinxton suddenly now. It's third in three but read still not sure he's still not sure whether or not to whether or not to take time out because it's you know what if they don't convert the third down he's playing the what if game the negative. What if game? If we don't convert the third down New England GonNa get a chance to get the ball back in. May maybe they get another score instead of saying we're going to get the the first down we're going to get into field goal range and we're going to score a field goal before the end of the half the weekend gone to the locker room with momentum and be up by score and that was. That's the difference between the two coaches coaches. You can't coach scared against the New England patriots in the Super Bowl Andy. Reid coach scared there at the end of the first half whereas Doug Peterson would not have coached scared late in this game name. I don't think it's as clear cut as far as Andy. Reed's clock management and whether or not Donovan mcnabb was tired or not at the end of at the end of the game at this point point because was humid in Jacksonville. And we we know that Donovan mcnabb had thrown up on the field in Florida heat in the in a game in the past. So that's one of those old wives tales. It's it's NFL folklore. Whether or not Donovan mcnabb got sick on the field. I think it's clear to me that he was at the very least tired at the end of that game that all being said when it was all said and done the Eagles lose twenty four to twenty one although the eagles had more first downs than the Patriots Twenty four to twenty one oddly enough the past run ratio always something. Maybe you could criticize Andy Reid for in this game. They threw the ball fifty one times and ran it. Just seventeen times in this game with Brian. Westbrook and Dorsey Levens seventeen rushing attempts. It's interesting to watch the game. They just they were in the shotgun virtually the whole game. That's just what Andy Redid. There was not a lot of balance to that game. The the past run ratio was much more balanced from for New England twenty-eight Russia's against thirty-three passes the eagles out gained the Patriots three sixty nine to three thirty one but four toner turnovers compared to one for New England. Was the story of this game. The Eagles had the four longest plays of this game. But the the Patriots had just three plays of twenty yards or more none none of them longer than twenty-seven but they D- inked and dunk. The Eagles to death mcnabb played poorly thirty for fifty one for three hundred sixty seven yards three touchdowns and three interceptions and numerous this other bad throws in a game with a quarterback rating of seventy five point. Four at the time those three hundred sixty seven passing yards. We're tied for fifth most in Super Bowl history. That is now seventh breath. Most because Tom Brady and nick foles both through way. More than that. In the crazy super bowl fifty two Tarallo and performed a miracle in this game nine catches On eleven targets for one hundred twenty two yards receiving todd Pinkston also had a good game four catches for eighty two yards. Brian Westbrook had forty four yards on the ground on sixty yards receiving and in an interview with bleacher report. That's out this week and actually I have a piece on bleeding. Green Nation Dot com about this Tarallo Donovan mcnabb talked about his poor game and also at some other comments to mention about terrel. Owens I'm not getting it into the whole Donovan. mcnabb versus Te'o thing here but he did talk about his poor game And why he didn't play well in Super Bowl thirty nine when your quarterback position Do a Gotcha. Do you know try not to do too much. I was trying to be perfect. And so some of the walls which throughout the ends up being in the aftermath. This was the last time Donovan mcnabb NAB would get to a super bowl. He thought they'd be back to more but obviously their relationship with Teo ended the year after the team didn't make the playoffs in two thousand five and two thousand and six Donovan got hurt in the middle of the season is Jeff Garcia. Went on a run. He got close again. In two thousand eight read and mcnabb gave it one last shot in two thousand eight Getting to the NFC title game where they lost to a very good Arizona cardinals team in the final minutes there and never made it back to a super bowl together. Reads mismanagement of the clock in Super Bowl thirty nine both in the first half and potentially At the end of the game as well is was his lasting legacy as an eagles coach. He had many more good seasons after that but eagles fans remember Andy Reid for how he handled Super Bowl thirty nine and he didn't handle super bowl thirty nine well his fatal flaws and Andy Reid had fatal flaws laws. They came up to kill the eagles chances of winning their first Super Bowl in super bowl thirty nine so as much as I love Andy Reid. I can't say he did. I can't say that this wasn't his fault. All Super Bowl thirty nine was his fault. In Part Donovan mcnabb also shares a lot of the blame for Super Bowl. Thirty nine now Andy. Reid has a chance at redemption. We will see whether or not Patrick. mahomes is Andy Reid proof. I think he might be and we'll all make our predictions on Super Bowl fifty four here next week because we get ready for the game but in the meantime I thought it was a good time to look back at the first of Andy Reid Super Bowl to find out where he went wrong and how he could improve next week against the San Francisco. Forty niners folks. That'll do it for this edition of BG and memories just a reminder to check out everything we have going on at bleeding green nation DOT com. Tom Check out all of the. BGN radio PODCASTS. Make sure you subscribe to. BGN RADIO ON APPLE PODCASTS. Get those five star ratings and leave a review. We'd love to know what you think of everything we're doing here at B._G.. Radio thanks for tuning in. I'll talk to you next time here on B._G. and memories.

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September 16, 2019 - Hour 2

Brock and Salk

43:27 min | 11 months ago

September 16, 2019 - Hour 2

"Hey it's all care and we really appreciate you. Being a part of our show. It is going to be changing. We are going to become a weekly podcast instead of a daily radio show and we want you to stay with us. Search Broken Salkin. I tunes the Google play store and click subscribe to automatically receive every episode right on your phone. This is brock and song from let me of Lasca Airlines Studio streaming everywhere at seven ten sports dot com and the seven ten Seattle App the hour and a half away from Carol sitting down with us for a regular Monday press conference always look forward to doing that with the coach I i. Love Love Love Pizza Analysis and descriptions of everything. He sees so that's always fun. You're going to want to be listening to this show tomorrow about this time time eight o'clock tomorrow. We'll have something to tell you guys and looking forward to it interesting conversation a little announcement that we will make tomorrow morning right around eight o'clock so hope you'll you'll be with us tomorrow at eight right now. Let's have takeaways seahawks Brock and saux takeaway Scott intercept it it starts to to more little details onto some of my Russell Wilson discussion that we had there at seven thirty and in the offense and some of the adjustments they make 'em aide yesterday. I remember Pete Carroll sitting in this seat that I'm sitting in right now and what happens when he comes in at nine thirty I slide over one and so this is a left tackle spot. I slide over and play left guard. Sulk stays in his center position as an unusual in the obvious move there but I remember Pete Carol Talking About Russell Wilson a couple years ago saying there's still more I know he's played a ton of all these great winner but there's a mastery level to this game that only comes with years and years and years of experience at the more he sees in the more defense he sees the more he understands that and understands it better. He'll be to just really pick them. Apart art coach Caroline cut for talking about the offense and their ability to really spread it all over the field yesterday. It was a tough ballgame. You know really the penalties. He's in the first half really kind of offset. The ridden could have had a rough was phenomenal all day long. You did a great job moving luminaires could everybody caught passes. Tyler had ten. He had a they day but everybody caught balls and this looks good decay. Look good Maliki did well. I mean all of those guys did a good job and some tough plays on third downs and all that so run Yvonne fifteen wasn't as much as we would like to maybe in some regards but a lot of numbers and so we'll take Pittsburgh very clearly what's going to come after us off their game plan and and defensively and they lose their middle linebacker okay so Vince Williams goes out with a hamstring injury in the first quarter or so the rookie comes in Devon Bush and he got picked off and you could endeavours going to learn from that tape and say Jeez. You know in college that step I made up for well not in this lake okay. The quarterbacks are good right and if you're a step late that tight end seamounts going to be a touchdown if you're a step late that ball's GonNa Whiz by your left ear for back shoulder they took advantage. I think if the rookie at times as well and and basically Russell took advantage of what the defense gave them and then when they pressure it wasn't just a Oh. I'm GONNA just check it down. It was no I'm GonNa just put the stake right in your heart and I'm GonNa make the throw down the field and that is the mastery level stuff that Pete was alluding to that was coming. It was on full display yesterday. Will we see more of that like is this is going to be more indicative of the way the season goes or was this just sort of adapt overcome an improvising Pittsburgh. I think when you've got the offensive live weaponry you've got and we'll disley is a hell of a player. I mean He. He's going to be another one of my takeaways. What an advantage. He is decay and the receiving core and then you balance it out with three different running backs Mike in Physical. Oh line yesterday have limitations and are they. GonNa be great right. Don't don't miss when I say three running back so the skill but now I grimace okay so good. You'll go h e double hockey side did right without even like now and billy does feel good about uncle well yeah. I know I wouldn't lived on that eight years not like it but it was a Certif-. I love the guy he's overcome in an injury. Yes so I apologize to the young kids driving to school. It is H. double hockey sticks but but they're balancing their balanced enough offensively in every phase to be able yes. I'm going to say yes to that over the next fourteen plus games whatever the defense gives as you when you're elite offensively you are able to adjust and take what they give you because there are weaknesses in any scheme and they maximize those yesterday Russell Start With the defense. I know they haven't played any high-octane offenses yet or anything close to what I've seen from them so far no Ziggy Ansah yet that they do give up twenty six points but fourteen of them came on a total of twenty five yards and drives one of twenty two yards and one of three yards both coming after the fumble so oh no other of the a other than those two. They only gave up twelve other points. That's a pretty good day. I series. It was my favorite five yard pass. Stop the run. Get a sack. That's exactly what piece talking about the problem with Dinkum the ballroom right yeah you get your into this third and five and you get a sack the next time it was almost exactly the same instead of a sack was an incompletion. I think it was a little more clowney knocked the ball down on third down. I like what they've done. They've not done as good a job as you'd like getting to the passer but they're on the road and you've got and you've got no Ziggy Ansah yet. I think when all that comes together I think we're going to like this defense a whole lot more than anybody thought we would. When the year began be carol cut five pretty happy when he saw the defense played really good all day long they had some difficult situations and a couple of plays that kind of got in the way of having a really good day we had good pressure on Ben even though we went and did Saxon we around him in mid mid tough on my thought and kept his down the first half and I don't think he threw for seventy yards in the. I have a big day just to get that done anytime. What was that sped up at the beginning happen there all day long uh-huh tone it down really good all day long camera whoa relax too. I'll say that's about the defense and we'll talk a little further with coach Carroll. I think once big band went out. There was a little sense of Oh okay. We got a got a young buck in here and we're going to take advantage of him and Mason Rudolph all played pretty darn good man. He was selling the ball around and I think when they look at defensive tape the sisters. Some of my kind of big picture perception is they're close. They're close to everybody putting it together but there's a play here. There's a player there. There's just a little step there. There's a mystery there. There's just a little there's still some. I'll take considering where they're at and how new most of the guys on the defense are. I think they've been pretty good as woods. That guys made a bunch of plays early in the season. Jeffersons had a pretty good start. Brandon Jackson emerged and it's flashed at times and played pretty well alone sack yesterday did a clown played well. He wasn't nearly as visible as he was in week one and and I'm sure some of the you know catching on is starting to happen here for him but I really believe when you ziggy on one side and cloudy on the other and everybody else that sort of started to emerge. I didn't realize this defense quite a bit when it's all said and done takeaways Tyler Lockett. I envisioned when I said he may be the first hundred catch guy for coach. Carroll Russell in this offense thousand plus yard receiver at ten targets yesterday cut nine of them. This was one of the more explosive close ones. Henny is the single Russell takes a shotgun snap without gets rid of the ball on blitz lock. It makes it catch you thirty. Ms Tackle Forty forty five runs out of bounds near midfield again in front of the steelers bench which is the near sideline terrel edmonds was the guy who got juked by Tyler Lockett and lock it goes on to pick up twenty two yards and a first down another blitz call by Keith Butler and the steelers and he didn't see three or four the deep shots to him that inevitably inevitably are going to be in the game plan week to week that other teams are in defense isn't just their style of play or going forward. You actually made a great play on him on walking walk it knocking the ball away on a deep overplay action now. The one gets called back with a couple of holding calls on on one play so it had to be much more of the underneath it had to be through the cookouts run little option row. Take the little income take what was there and tyler the beneficiary with nine receptions. Yesterday I would agree that that's the guy you've been expecting right that number one receiver whether he's in a number one spot or not just finding a way to get himself open especially in big spots and guess who loves him his quarterback. Russell Wilson Got Great Chemistry and keeps finding ways to get them over. You Watch the video so I sent you last night of the seahawks put out in the locker room with Russell given the game ball Did you notice a bunch of you ever tried the K. tape by the way on any of your injuries and GonNa say you have a knack at seems. You're phoning your lower back. Oh really yeah okay well a lot of K. tape on the back still title lock it is he still. I think working through some of that innocent or something Ben Gay in Textile K. Tape Have Ben Gate the ones take away all right you go tyler walk and I'll go decay. Matt Catholic is fascinating who Deakin Metcalf man in everything he does is interesting. The first catchy had was also the play of the game talk back shoulder. That's back fingertip and he just barely he finds a way to haul it in. What a what an incredible catch that was the touchdown was probably better. Throw than a catch but still i. I just everything he does interesting. I love the play where he skift arm. The dude them went right after the next defender. SCHORR catch ended up turning that into a first down. He's just so big. Now you also get the miscommunication with Ross right. He'd rust through short. He went a deep. You also have a double penalty where he took two penalties so I'm not saying he's the perfect specimen just yet as a wide receiver but he so so far ahead of where anybody expected them to be right now he just he's fun to watch man. I have not watched anything like this for the seahawks and my decade here you know oh forever but you also see he's still raw court is but he's such a physical freak. It just makes everything he does. Interesting about the the Steph are just face. It was awesome any real the dead right after ad like people don't want to tackle him and he's a wide receiver. He's so big he really. I mean he just looks mammoth out there every time he's out there. Just the please stay healthy phenomenal. Throw decay may look hard bobbling around a little bit but what he's really really. He's really done a nice shot man. What a great start he. He's off to and we're thrilled about it. You know and I think restaurant Tim Seven Times a day. We get them all but there's going to be a lot of a lot of hookups here coming up while you're mentioning you know hey. They didn't take any of those deep shots Tyler Lockett yesterday. The interesting thing is he's not there only deep threat. I mean you're going to have decay who's very capable of running in those deep routes and jump balls and all that I know Jacob. Some others are worried early that he didn't fight through contact to try to get the ball. That's not what I've seen so far. I've seen a guy who seems like he wants to go. Get it. In two different ways manifest itself in the opener you saw the go route against Cincinnati where he is on the outside right the three by one so he's an pure one one on one and you saw him leverage his body by slowing down right and then accelerate in the end kind of keeping the DB just a little bit away. This one was a cool concept because he was actually in the slot so he had the inside fade route so you have way more rooms you just giving him all that room but it was equally now this one wasn't about like like pushing to the side. It was keeping that guy with his speed a step behind so russell could drop it in the bucket and that was pretty takeaways okay. I'll come to an hour eleven this show and I'll ask ziggy questions or is it and why has there been so much optimism. Optimism is false optimism that remember before the third preseason game or so. It was oh man he's head schedule. He had the groin that he had kind of come back act from the groin injury and that set back a little bit more playing and we three which still ahead of schedule I mean I think the the thinking earlier before games before we even saw the thinking in preseason season was he was going to be ready with the thinking before that was he would be ready. Til We five true. So where are we feeling right now. He's kind of been cranked up as John. Clayton said he's practice at the end of my robot. He used up the end of my patients. I'm good so far if he sits against New Orleans on Sunday. I'm going to start raising. Those eyebrows like as you are well. I'll tell you it may be hollering. I'll tell I'll tell you this. Thank goodness you gotTa Clowney Trade. Could you imagine if that did not get done in the eleventh hour or in there was no cloudy on this d line and there was no and I also wonder whether or not the out there of quantum wasn't interesting interesting that they're kind of safe. You know plan this one a a little bit safe. They protect the asset as much as possible and make sure that he is a hundred hundred hundred percent ready so given the history right yeah it it is. I'm with you I. I'm I'm raising the question right now. Cause I think there was a lot of frustration after that game based on things that have been said I think a feeling of okay he's getting closer of watching trim work. Even a warm ups a week ago Mike for game number one. He did a full warm up. Is he going to be ready at just not quite ready. This one felt like you know. This decision was almost made at least on Saturday that he wasn't going to be up in in raring to go. He will make clowney better who county is seeing. It's cloudy seen some slide and protection cloudy still playing the run game pretty well but I think Mr Clowney would sure be benefited. If there is another freak on the other side of him. Take wasn't perfect yesterday so I don't want to just start heaping praise all over them but Leno hills better than Tetra Thompson right. I know he got beat on a flea flicker. Just saw a moment ago. Our Buddy Hawk bog tweeting that he had the second highest defensive grade of anybody on the team ordering pro football focus. I just didn't notice them much in the game which is generally a good thing and more than I could save pretender Thompson now. He did have come up with the two point conversion interception right. I mean it sort of gets passed over because interception doesn't really count right off off. Mothers wasn't Rudolph Looks Bounces on his toes time throwback three unknown. It's picked off. He was trying to get the ball to Smith Schuster in the back of the endzone. molyneaux hill picks it off. Yeah I mean that's a nice if they win by two so when you when you've intercepted the two point conversion in your team wins by two that's it's a pretty big play in the game so I thought Leno was a significant upgrade however Bradley beal doable. He has a pick so he has an okay day and that's what stands ends out but he's had a tough first couple of weeks a couple of missed tackles. He had a bad one yesterday. he's had a couple of penalties. He was burned deep. Unfortunately or fortunately for him was bad. Throw I mean thankfully. He comes up with the pick but other than that the devils not being himself did he practices off sees no did he practiced much just preseason playing preseason games actually no. Do you have a little surgery that he spent a whole off-season tra. I mean I'll give explanation right and why it started a little bit and I also hope it's because that means that that you know the real Bradley McDougal's right around the corner also. You've got a little in and out next to him right. You've got a little bit position. Yes he trained. Did you positions. I got a different guy next to me. You know two different personalities. Lino also missed the entire offseason yeah. I think that there's some stops and starts there is those guys are still figuring figuring out working together lane over header. I think so there's just a yeah. I think there's some confidence I don. I don't think either them or terribly dynamic. I'm I'm not. I'm not saying that that Leno Hill is the guy I want to be playing safety long-term but if this is going if Hendrix back after the hamstring this week I hope that job is to win over and remember. You did draft a guy in the second round when he's ready. I'll be ready to higher secondary. He's ready all be ready but in the meantime that list has to have Leno or takeaways about the K. of cases take command. You'd never tried K- Tapu. How did the K- tape on your broken wrist right when he played all that day when I did do k. Tape on my broken enrich broke a bone in your hand druids put that K- tapan stuff works pretty well now now another much no Ben Game Ben Gay. It's this Costanza stretchy deal anyhow. I believe textile you can correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the hawks are now perfect scoring touchdowns in the red zone this year. I believe lead we will win. I believe that we will win you score touchdowns in the red zone in the NFL. You're going to win games. Don't cringe at that. Okay that sounds pretty entertaining billy bozeman or uncle will or whatever you WANNA call him. He was pretty good on this touchdown reception to Carson in the Backfield Russell. Look off the nearside corner. Throw the IT's caught doc touchdown seahawks will disley for the second time today scores Hawks from twelve yards out the two tight ends own this Dr then at Disley with d'isly paying off on the touchdown reception. You can't cover everybody and Disley Open right down the middle title the seahawks take their first lead of the day and what a contrast from just a couple of years ago and I think that there's probably a good explanation here. Why were they terrible in the red zone a couple years ago because they were terrible running the football and when you have a threat of a run game in the red zone you get in you should improve dramatically addict reference tall guy like D.C. I mean they've really built a team now. That is I think very well suited to red zone offense a powerful running back gigantic offensive line a running quarterback quarterback who can run in a really tall received a big tight end. Yes like that's all the weapons. You might possibly possibly want in a red zone. Yes and coach Carroll in cut number seven pretty excited to see will just firing on all cylinders yeah. We'll look at a couple other places too. It wasn't just the touchdown place place yeah. We'll come a long ways back yet. A terrible injury been phenomenal about working. He is continues to re have every day he works on on making sure that he's making progress progressive and being able to sustain and he's doing. He's wonderful football player. Not Now you're great kid. He's so on point with his assignments as mentality and all that any comes through up to he's a terrific terrific takeaways. Let's go stock up stock down running back reading Chris Carson Stockdale. Unfortunately he was his usual self. I love the sequence in the third quarter brock. There was a play where they rent a little to the right side of global. I think a screen passer pass. It's off to the right and he just crush them on the sideline. You just ran the dude over a couple of plays later. They were back over in the same right sideline and instead. He cut it inside. Are Those two things related I think they are. I mean I think when when a defenders worried that he's just got steamrolled by a runaway thirty to look at so good fumbles all all right well. I'm going to get to that because other than he looks. Great looks like Chris Carson Yeah. He can't fumble three times thirty two so good that's right except when he loses the ball because you cannot do that you remember Travis Henry. Oh yeah great running behind kit that kid could run. He I mean he would steamroll you. He would run by you. He would run around you and he fumbled thirty times in two years. You can't have it. You just cannot have it. You have to have players who run the ball and protected I will l. Prefer fewer yards two more fumbles. I just eat Chris. Carson's got to get that under control or else cannot be your prime time running back on this team but like good for people who went back to him on the final running needed tip kyle as for Rashad Penny. Can we go stock up after this play. No it's not working ERC eating. It's not worth seventeen. It's going to hand off to penny again. WHO MAKES THEM AND MISS. He goes thirty twenty five Russell. Throw the black doc hawks off the line of scrimmage on a third-down short quick hand off penny thousands outside and follows the blocking of his quarterback all the way down. The field untouched goes penny for thirty six yards. That's those quickly we've been talking about right and then the acceleration and the person the vision and all the stuff that we know is in there. He just hasn't really shown enough of it. I thought this was interesting here. Cut Twelve that it was actually the second time China had run that play and he learned from the I. I'm not GonNa lie when we lived back and watch it on the sideline. The first time I kind of missed that I cut the same exact and then I do this moment. I knew how guy was planned it. So I mean I knew younger pursued the linebackers over pursued and you know just all about making play shots wrestler to block. I thought he was going to say I'm not going to lag up my swagger. ooh That's not really. Chris Sweat Pants deal feel so stock up on him and then for CJ precise doc up. I guess he survived. We haven't heard about swagger back. I like him in that two minute role. That's probably going to be the spot for him. Especially at the end of the half I think that's a good spot for him so stock up for Penny stock up issue for precise and other than the fumbles it'd be find the Carson but I gotta go stopdown takeaways go and say shiny calling the game and that plays case some points. What did they do. No Huddle get right to the ball third and one. You want to make sure that Dan outside containment guy is not thinking in his reacting the same way he did earlier right. If if you line up and you huddle up and everything else maybe there's a little reminder about edgy containment everything else to to that outside linebacker when you get right to the line of scrimmage on third and one when you go up tempo. What do you WanNa do you WanNa create reaction in that defense in a plan reaction or hopefully an expected reaction that you then take advantage of and I thought that game plan in the adjustments which they made in the second half were a real testament to the growth in the relationship of Russell and Brian Schottenheimer that you know what I'm comfortable comfortable playing this game. Whatever which way we've got to play Russell has said that before to us. I know that he said it to to keep an eye like hey man. We're going to do whatever it takes to win that game the bottom line business it means throwing for four or five touchdowns great if it means me running for fifty yards zero touchdowns great but whatever the game whatever every that defense does can take advantage of it. I thought Shoddy and Russ on the same page yesterday takeaways. I'll give you a quick one and then I'll probably probably have to talk as soon as I say but look probably wagons a great player. I'd really like him to make a tackle on a quarterback in the fourth quarter on third down instead he you got you don't remember that I do and unfortunately brought up some really painful memories of the Dallas game and Dak Jack Prescott running right through him and frank like come on Bobby. I make that play. I love him. He's a fantastic player so strong stopping powers amazing diagnosis stuff well. I support the huge contract games ripped job on Bobby Wagner. I was just shocked that he wasn't able to make that play yeah he and Kendricks and crew and I'll woods mentioned earlier hip been in good against the traditional run. Yes right they've been in the bengals. Were not a great run team that again yesterday aggressive and we've seen them take advantage of over screen passes and they should be good against screen three smart fast linebackers like screen passes should they should be sniffen those out left and right and yet they've gotten gashed with a few of them. I think because they've had to be so aggressive which were just not accustomed to them doing right yeah. I think that's part of it and you got three linebackers fields right and this is a little bit new unique in cool conversation. I think to continue with coach Farrell. Is You know you've you've played more base defense. I'm going to guess I haven't seen all the numbers around the entire. NFL But I'M GONNA guess. They played more based defense than anybody. In the League right most teams go to nickel you get eleven personnel. We're going to Nickelodeon gashing a few of those screens and you end up with Michael Kendricks defending downfield and he gets called for huge pass interference so you end up stopping the run. That's true in this league. You Stop the run. You give yourself an opportunity to win all right. There you go that is our full. Instead of takeaways probably had more that we have gotten to to that love takeaways. There's so many things you can see over the course of a gay man and I'd love to bits. You like tidbits more than takeaways. Sometimes that that makes sense. I could see that about you. You're more of a tidbit. Hey I gotta ask you about something and most of this game was positive yesterday and we'll come back to a lot of the great with Russell Wilson and Caroline his his big decision but there is one gigantic question mark that emerges out of this and I want to ask you about it next and broken salk this camping season heritage distilling company company hopes you get a chance to leave the rush behind in favor of taking in the great outdoors. Just don't leave behind the BS B Brown Sugar Bourbon. It's a cabin essential. Esp Brown sugar suburban gig harbor Washington thirty percent alcohol by volume the ease Bracken Song from the Alaska Airlines Studio your host Brockie word. Can you ought to know how about that too laughter. They were open to with this time this year there too and no last year the playoffs and a first round exit this year who knows we'll talk to. Pete Carroll coming up in an hour or weekly chat with the coach Pete Carroll. Show is at nine thirty the Brock yes so many good things from the first couple of weeks of the season one kind of glaring weakness that stands out and I'm just so confused about what what the heck is going on with this offensive line this was supposed to be strength of theirs. It's not not right now. Surviving it they found a way in this game two to essentially actually rendered their offensive line moot by throwing quickly and you mentioned Russell with his one point eight nine seconds per throw which is as little as anyone's had in a couple couple of seasons but that was out of necessity because the right side of their offensive line can't figure out a TA game. Yeah what is going on with the group that last year was very much improved. This cheer has all the same people. Mikey potty has not been the problem at left guard nor was nor was posted last week what has happened however feddie and fluker taking this huge step well. I think for both of those guys there is strength to their game but there's legitimate weaknesses right. I mean there's a reason that the seahawks didn't pick up the fifth year option for petty and I don't know based on the first couple of weeks here. I don't think you sit there and go yeah. That's a mistaker boy. We got signed him. During the year two thousand Seventeen Germain effecting what's happened. Lucre is a guy that was a free agent again been free agent a bunch of different times in his career. I think most people look at and say okay. Here's a year and a couple. Million Million Bucks like you know you're capable guy competent but there is some challenges to your game three hundred and fifty pounds. The movements and stunts and processing is big as he is. Those are areas of vulnerability so I think both of those guys Mike. I don't think this is a total shock. FEDDIE got better over the of course that's fine. You can say that you're right. I understand that those guys are always going to have some problems in pass blocking fine two things though one every time the the the tackle in the end swap spots confused yeah every time that can't happen can't happen man. It's Klay five years in the League and what's This for Fluke doc seven or so yes. It should not happen as often as it does. That's one number two you deal with some of that because they're big road-graders. I haven't seen the big holes. I haven't seen them road road grading. Where's that part of the game you can talk to me about all right. I understand their strengths and weaknesses but I don't understand why you've got to a point. I guess just from football football perspective. you know kind of just an XS knows I would say and obviously I think big rain some other guys go even further detail but I look at it this way. Mike your opponents. It's not lining up in letting you attack them hit them. Both of your opponents have said what both of your opponents had said you know. We're going to get into five down defensive lineman. We're going to slant. We're GONNA move to Pittsburgh. I got in a three down and they're bringing backers and safeties and nickel defenders. Were not going to just line up and let you make a box count and say okay. Here's the double team to the second level and think that we can just line up equally. Go Yeah Yeah. We'll we'll be just fine. Both of them have used a lot of blur. They've thrown a lot of different color. There've you've been a lot of stunts. There've been a lot of movement in. That's what you've gotTa do against a big physical. Oh Line then I will propose an idea that we've talked about before that is a little harebrained brain and a lot of traditional football. People don't like it but as the game is rapidly changing. I think this needs to be another place teams. Look at why do you play the same five down on Lineman on every play. Why aren't those positions rotating in the same way running backs and wide receivers and every other position on the team does why are those same five guys who have as you just said specific trade offs strengths and weaknesses and you often have other guys on your team who have different strengths and weaknesses. Why aren't they rotating through who and giving different looks on the offensive line whether it's a running group and a passing group and before you come in with Wolf Group. Everybody knows they're going to run just because it's the running group doesn't mean mean they have to run it just means they're better prepared to run what happens if you're looking to pass protect and you say you know what get fluker out of there for two minute drill and get. Ethan pawsox basic back in their if they have to run they can but if he's better at pass blocking than Dj fluker why sit him on the bench during those couple of minutes well because the chemistry is that important I just I'm sorry I don't I don't I think it makes too much sense and I'm shocked that a team hasn't try one. US honestly coach about it before he's been tempted and he thought he could to do it and they've tried to do that in the past and they did it was subpar pieces. Whatever it is an enormous tail number one number two continuity matters number three there should should be answers in your run game and I know that that's probably the next conversation is okay if they're gonNA do all of this blur and all of that. What do you do in the run game. You gotta just run downhill like instead instead of getting the gun and I run the hat knows I in nineteen and maybe they're not expecting running from downhills Bob but they pulled a couple of guys from the left or the right and Carson came barreling down go for years. I love the way they ran read option and they get into it with Marchand. Go all right there off to the races. The read option so effective. I still think it's ineffective. Play I just I'm not sure that it is the best the best play call for either Carson or specialty penny or maybe even the guys up front just WanNa Kinda lineup and you know just down block and not necessarily getting zone situation where stunts or blitzes or they're thinking or they can just run some power that can run my so. Maybe put the full back on the field. I think all things is it you sort through man. It's all this game of adjustments. Baseball is not the only game of adjustments per at bat poor for young players for pitchers and you know so our offensive coordinator so our quarterbacks you know that that zone read you know it comes off of that Michael. RPO right so we're willing to live with a little zone read and maybe they get us here but you know we get we get to then pull the ball and throw the slant right behind. You know then we get. We could throw a little bubble to a one on one and we get a block and we get a big place. There's a constant I think back and forth of course none of it matter of Germania. Fatty is holding on every play and jumping off sides and everything else that stuff just it has to stop salt. That's ridiculous. We're going to substitute are pass blocking offensive linemen minute run plays or past please. Do you think the defense might figure it out. I mean they they substituted in different levels of wide receiver and tight end like there are plenty of other tales that you're going to be in a running or passing situation and they don't force you to do that and there's also though not a significant difference between posted and fluker pass blocking Romblon. It's not as if you four three guy and one's a four. H. is going towards some of their strength by the way it's not like. You can't run the ball of post six in there you can. You're just you know substituting a little bit of tribulation for a little bit of of of power like okay I I'm. I'm really surprised by putting on the field. That's how they kind of do more of it and it just keeps struggling like this and I said this last week my little watch my five watchlist right and Ted Drake was obviously out with a hamstring but some of these other guys are by the way Britain played a much better game. He was awesome when it mattered. I thought he communicated. I thought he bounced back. Play much better game but Mr Fatty on that right side. You're right is looking like the guy from seventy. Who is it fans yeah. You'RE GONNA look out there. Yes I think he would be the guy you would look pretty closely at Rock Joe. Marco Jones was the number one guy you're going to watch the game now known. Loveridge Marco Jones Jaguars fantasy and they're not your Marco DEMARCO's a left tackle fans been playing right tackle rapid a lot right tackle backing up at right tackle. He would be the one guy that you'd probably say to Germain. Hey let's go in the holding calls. The false starts the stuff has got to be eliminated because the upside has not been that great either even when he's been on count and been in rhythm so there you go. That's what I got for you. I WANNA see them starts up student Lineman. You're not gonNA see that a lot of things I wanna see that I'm never going to see. I WANNA see see that. I WANNA see them. Start instituting different penalties for different types of pass interference. I don't think that's a thirty seven yard penalty tyler. So we're a couple of weeks and do you have any like a bigger uh other than the seahawks so as I said two yesterday at halftime to Rico who's a reasonable Guy Tony Dungy who's very very reasonable. Rodney whose little opinionated the three of them were on set and they looked at like six or seven major calls that went to review and pass interference in the three of them. Were just left like this is a mess. There is no continuity. There's no it's not a mess because of the replay review. It's a mess because it's always it's always been a mess on the field up but you're not cleaning up up like if we're GONNA take your allowing them another chance to see and you're going to take the game out of rhythm and you're going to spend some of this replay time you shirt like when it goes to replay to get the call right and hat's yeah that's true but that's the problem is this even right is still wrong. What is right. What is this black. Is this white. No it is still great. It was gray on the field when it's called that way for decades. AIDS post only take away the ones that are black and white. It's supposed to take away the mistakes like what happened last week in our last year at the end of the Orleans game that's not happened. No in fact. I thought the one I look I was shocked that they ruled that pass interference. I did not think did you. Did you think they were going to make the change in that call. No would you have made the change changed me. Neither I don't think he happy to break Tyler's ability in double coverage to go get the ball and they're rewarding a throw a desperation heave. I don't I don't I would not have made that change but more than that. I think it's ridiculous that every pass interference call is a spot foul. They have to give the rest some level of ability to say yeah. He ticky tack touched him. It is a penalty. He stopped him from catching it but I can't reward this thirty seven yard heave. It makes no sense all right coming up next so good news bad news no news. There was good news. All over the sporting community in Seattle over the weekend will run through all next. I'm rocking Sulk. Good news bad news no news now. Here's brock and we saw forty five minutes from now. He always has just a completely different. Take on the game and then maybe you or I or anybody else had while watching. It's always nice to get his view when we'll do that with pete coming up in forty five at nine thirty right now what else in the news good news bad news no news Jacobson threw three touchdown passes in the huskies Fifty Two two twenty win over Hawaii. Yeah look good. I I ended up watching that game. Last night was getting a little walking on the treadmill record mile. You remember that's also as far mile par. Dr For every minute. Go Up one degree incline. You Walk Around fifteen minutes a little workout and it was a good little workout for the huskies offensively to get back in rhythm. I thought they got the fall out of his hands. Well you must have thrown ten little bubble screens which is his strength and just get it out and give those guys on the perimeter a chance and then he threw some shots a nice little go routes to coup for his first touchdown and then the one that the scouts will be watching right. It'll be very interesting to watch these next ten weeks Jacob because because if he plays at a high level and continues to flash a kind of arm strength. Do you know what's GonNa Happen these. NFL Scouts who covered six five guys throw laser beams are GONNA and say why don't you come out to be a first round pick because he threw one off a little play action and literally ripped it from the forty five going into the horseshoe that could not have had more than I don't know howdy ten yards elevation amd point. I mean it was absolutely insane on a post trout touchdown to pool or so that was good news to get into rhythm a much different test awaiting them in Provo Saturday. I'll say no news unfortunately because the huskies speeding Hawaii Hawaii beat Oregon Oregon State and Arizona remember they were looking to go against the PAC twelve days they did beat two PAC twelve team and they got humiliated honestly no news for now. I WanNa see what he does against the competition. That's the goal we saw what he did against Eastern. We've seen what he did against a why it's more news than what you do against eastern but not as much certainly as what you have ahead of you you gotta do it against the real competition which will becoming and at that point we'll be able to know whole lot more about Jacobsen whether or not he's been able to elevate debate the program. I give you some greatness. I'm going to get to call one of those. Oh really which one week Sabah if I can say that yet but let's say let it. Can I say hey can. I say I can't hear you. Can I just put up like Can I just do like that news. No News Washington state route three after they beat Houston thirty one twenty four on Friday night on on a couple of weeks. That was good news that you learned about Anthony Gordon's facing adversity didn't play great in the first half the cougar offense seven points in the go on the road in Houston in an air raid love fest the entire broadcast is documented the roots of it and everything and and Cheetahs Banana pre-game. I think that was the key on the field. He's sticking by that and I was a great win for those guys this Cougar team match up with the last couple to be determined best receiving the defense leaves leaves little desired only a couple of weeks in but what do you make of it compared to the last few years they're comparable to 2017 not as good as twenty eighteen eighteen. Probably Mike Tomlin also announced rothlisberger out for the season where it's gotta be sorry. That's how it was legit all right. Well medication can make you look okay and I'm sure he was medicated to try to do that and then all of a sudden ultimately then you know what I take it all back. I'm sorry I should not have doubted yesterday. There's a bit of a boy cried wolf thing going on here but my that's crazy wow good the news bad news no news how. Lewis homered yet again and the mariners clean their second consecutive walk off win over the white sox. Lewis swinging a high drive straight away Centerfield angle to the WANNA track to the wall goodbye Baseba- Kyle Lewis with his big league all bride I the three run home run here at the bottom of the Denny and Kyle is made it a one run ballgame. This kid has been unbelievable table in his major league. Start Holly Smokes Yeah. The walk off wins. No news four home runs already from Kyle Lewis Fantastic tastic news yeah watching the game with my dad. I know some people have brought up some Adam Jones comparisons. I've heard my cameron as a comparison also my dad's looking at him he goes. Hey you know who he reminds. Me Of the guy who played for the Yankees Second Baseman also played for the Mariners Robinson Cano. He's like no no the other one. I'm looking at him like oh well. He just kind of remind me of Raphael Soriano. Is that who you mean yeah him like well. He never played for the mariners. That was the Rangers but whatever dad like good call. I can my dad's credit. He's right. He's tall or Afonso alphons. Rafael played here no offense or excuse me sorry I confused my story but he does remind you a bit of a funds a story doesn't he just the amount of POB tall and thin with a real quick stroke and the ball moves off his back in a hurry. He's obviously taller and bigger than Soriano was and probably hopefully has this much pop if not more what incredible debut it's been for and you. WanNa take heartache for takeout trade this off season eight fifty two no. I'm not ready for that. we got all those outfielder common mm-hmm and take his records is the perfect guy to broadcast baseball team. That guy makes every call doesn't matter so legitimately excited that is also great news trading him in the off season talk about that. Why not I'm not ready for that. Good News Bad News News News. Drew brees is expected to have thumb surgery miss at least the next six weeks the seahawks face the saints this Sunday in Seattle. That's that's good news for. This Sunday for the seahawks gives them a better chance to win. There's no question about that at some bad news for the NFL drew brees has surgery on his thump and Rothlisberger may have a career or ending injury with no surgery. Nick foles breaks his collarbone. Andrew Luck retires from the game a week before a position that was loaded going into this year that I think many of us felt felt like Gosh. This may be the best. The position has ever been now has four significant chunks taken out of I'll agree with your sentiments exactly they're. I mean obviously it's helpful for the seahawks for this weekend be facing bridgewater instead of breeze but that's bad news man. Everybody roots for breeze and throw me in that category. Molly said that yesterday watching the game. I think he's my favorite revert. NFL quarterback to watch just way he carries himself conducts himself just in every single way it's just a class act tough to hold those diamonds to condition. Watson's creeping into that category and Patrick Mahomes. I mean there's a bunch of these guys. Breezes certainly picked overextended the thumb with the gyms like maybe I think it's GonNa be really hard to hold. What does it look at them. Through the light with the thumb and the finger as hard now are you on that is today's good news because the cut may be the same but it's about the clarity do that every single angle bay at eight forty five core sacristy clarity clarity anyway all right coming up Pete Carroll. Come will join us at nine thirty this morning he had himself a heck of a sixty eighth birthday and I think was the person most directly responsible for what the seahawks did yesterday. It's next on Brock.

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It's a round the hord, the show of competitive better. Me hammers, Tony, really? They transform three chiefs forty score guy. Nine. This all up for this for AFC title game. You learn. Mahomes can hang on a big stage. You learn e who has last possession is pretty good strategy and football. Two thousand eighteen. You learned that defenders are doing what brillant speaks. They're taking off mid tackle because maybe they're afraid of getting flagged. Bob. By the way you're supposed to put a napkin over your head when your heating order. Lot timeout. I'm now from God's is yeah, the takeaway. What's the take away from last night's patriots win. Take away from the patriots. Just they dodged a bullet. The fact is that the second half they could not stop. They could not get Mahomes off the field. They gave up almost three hundred yards in total offense in the second half four touchdowns. There's one putting a whole game as you well know point being now is that I would think the patriots should be thinking. We hope we do not see these guys. Again, they know how very very fortunate they were. They know that in the first-half Mahomes made mccown mistake that cost him dearly, they know that they should have gotten away with more trouble in the first half. So I'm telling you right now, they better not be smug about this. This was not. Okay. So it'd be more optimistic about this. This is actually literally that sounds like patriots are putting the napkin over their hands after this win a lot of succession and billions. Relation to Kansas City. I'm talking about not relation to the other stumbled right guy Sola, what's your takeaway from last night? Well, my takeaways at New England has a very good offensive could run the ball and Brady has all those weapons. What I found fascinating was when Patrick Mahomes ties up the game on that seventy five yard touchdown pass, they put the camera on Tom Brady and Bill Belichick like Apollo creed. In the first rocky, were they thinking, man, this guy. They put him away. It was quite the opposite for a loss. I'd be very encouraged if I'm Andy Reid or a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. That was an impressive performance. Israel is being encouraged by losses on this show so Israel, what do you come to find from this game last night? Well, I told you on Friday that I thought that the chiefs had already figured themselves out. They were comfortable with who they were. They came in and scored forty points in Gillette. That's a big deal. The other side of it being the patriots back when they beat the dolphins and sort of got right there and then against Andrew luck and the colts included Josh Gordon there. Now you look at the weapons that they have and it's like, man Gordon's getting involved, not just down the field that in the middle of the failed gronkowski doesn't even have to have a big game, looks unstoppable at times. And of course you've got Tom Brady there, and I think so these are two teams that thank you for being here. Thank you for having this offense and take you maybe for the rules that allow this to happen. But these are two great offense is they don't need to be great defenses to compliment that and still go to thank you Israel a for being a friend and be. You for reminding us said on Friday. You said that chiefs in have anything to prove, and then you picked the chiefs to win the game, which they did not Mikan. How about you. If these two teams win the patriots, probably win six out of ten to offenses are very evenly matched, which is a coup for New England given how they looked in the beginning of the season. The fact that they've caught up with Kansas City. The run game looks as good as it does going housing getting involved. That's huge. Now I can't praise the defense that much. They allowed kids to put up forty points in cream hunt, carry the ball, eight yards. Precariously was the final result, but they were less terrible, right? And in a shootout less terrible defense can win you the game. That sounds like the NFL two thousand eighteen also the NFL two thousand eighteen week. We look at the Brady touchdown. One more time do you think speaks let go of Brady because of fear of penalty. Frank guy, solo. I'm not buying that and you know what? Even if there had been a penalty, they remember there was an other. There was another penalty in the end zone, so it would have been patriots ball anyway about the two yard line first down. I'm not buying it. I think that's a rookie who made a bad play. He had his arms around him Brady still have the ball. You have to make the defensive player. Israel. I. Totally agree with Frank, but I do think that this should sort of speak to what this season is right, protecting the quarterback, even though it speaks was worried about was a rule that has been a place for a long time. Obviously, you can't hit the quarterback after he's released the football. And if the indeed thought that Tom Brady release the football, therefore he was just following that rule. But the idea of protecting the quarterback has never been greater than it is right now. So I think that he did go out there thought he did a penalty and let go do. I think it decided the game. Absolutely. Not me comes less word after the horn. Yeah, I agree. If you're gonna say, I thought through it that's a late hit. That's always been the case. We can't have defenders continually signing roughing the passer when that's not contributing to making stakes. That's just not heads up football. We've been horrible move on Steelers and Bengals. Let's go inside the horn here. Final minute. This is the third down play this penalty for defensive holding on Cincinnati, beer, Kirkpatrick, holding Brown, it's there. It's it's there every play football there and that play automatic first down for Pittsburgh. The players, the follow, the Steelers. Game winner, which had hunters fix law right near on the gray, which frees up around for the ballgame. Now, whether it's letter lower spirit of law, there's some debate whether it's depending on who initiates contact, but also letter of the law. It has to be within one yard of the line of scrimmage. You guys could take out your measuring sticks, but even more so considering the conversation we just had promoting the is being legislated out of the league in someway Meena. Should that be a legal play in a just world Tony? No, because you're right offenses have too much of an advantage these days Opie I should be called more often, but it's not right and given the way it's been called in the past and made sense that they didn't call it there, especially since the defender apparently initiated contact. So the blame for me does rest with the Bengals defense. You know, they're playing covers zero. You've got to execute, but also the Bengals offense because the previous drive their clock management was terrible. They snap the ball with seventeen seconds left on one play. That was more time that was left on that play. So they deserve some. Of the blame, I think for giving them too much time. That's a great point. Seventeen seconds left. They snapped the ball, and then I think it was AJ green gun out of bounds on that play as well. And that's how much time was left remaining on the clock. Israel about the big play. The rub play that we're talking about here. Should that be a legal play in the game today? I don't necessarily think it should be legal. I do think that it's obvious, like you said defense is really hard and all these rules make it even more difficult, but it's also something that you know to be a possibility there, you know, and the way they were setting up right before that play Ben Rothlisberger was probably lighting up saying, okay, this is going to work perfectly. They're playing right into their hands. If you play that game, if you play that playthrough without the rubber without the picker would have you Antonio Brown still catches that ball and still gets a good amount of yards there. So it just feels like the Cincinnati deepens was the reason that played created what it was the play call necessarily not the pig play. That's not call to me. That looks like to me. That's a play, like a illegal screens in basketball. It's going to get called every once in a while and it should get called, but you're going to miss a lot of them because they. Happen all the time Bronco Sola, a lot of defensive people around the NFL or claiming that that is not in a legal play. I'm gonna put this one on Cincinnati. Antonio Brown is out on the field. You have to figure a play like that could conceivably happen. I would have a bigger issue if I'm Cincinnati on the holding call right before that because that doesn't look like a catchable ball. And that's for Tony and Meena. You want to Bengals through losing to worry about clock management as they're trying to take go ahead. I decided to have this stuff. How many. On any any given week, do we see? And we say too much time left on the clock that too much time. They gotta worry about getting the leave. I come on, you can't get on them for that. I'm Bob Ryan. Well, let's see. Bob's gonna get on him for that. You can address the clock management first before we get into that play. But please, you know, there's never any clock management problems up here in New England. Now. Orientation, but I have no problem with the philosophy of a pick playing football, and I think it should be legalized. I see nothing wrong with. And in this particular instance, I as has most of us now have seen this thing minimum of a dozen times maybe more and you cannot tell yet which person initiated that contact. If that close that forget about it folks. That's a legal play, two beds, Cincinnati. I'm so the point is who initiates contact. I'm not even sure. I read the read the rule, many times today, the spirit of love or so the letter law because it's when the bulls in the air Meena. I see you're, you're saying the same thing, right? What it's not in the roles? Yeah. Doesn't seem to be in the rules or at least the ball needs to be in the air. My only point read all this Frank. I know you cited defensive players saying that's not a penalty, but could it be penalties? Should it be the penalty? If we already have a hundred and forty seven possible penalties on defensive players. Shouldn't this one play removed and maybe not every game would be forty, three forty the NFL. We'll move on baseball now last night. Nothing to see here. Just the game started by David, Bryce, whereas Steve one, what? No big deal. Since the drama chewed on it, yearly choked on it about the same time, the patriots were momentarily choking. There's look at the beers by the way. But they left with the wit like LA the night earlier. We're going to get to that series of the second to one once. He's what we're going to start with the American League series because this was last night your takeaway from last night, and what's the number one reason? Stroz socks is one one, Bob, Ryan number one takeaway was that they manage not to lose a game that David price pitch. I can tell you right now than it was four, forty two. It was a few Nereo atmosphere in that ballpark and everyone had doom and gloom, and I say, well, it's going to happen. The guy's going to throw it away again and they were lucky. They came back and won the game number two that they have a heart attack closer. Now, he is officially a heart attack closer. They have a new problem. They did not have two months ago, quite Kimble is a hindrance. He's a real issue. And number three is simply that the bullpen which has been much maligned. Middle of the bullpen has been doing it. Terrific job lately. Did a terrific job last night and save the ballgame. For them. Okay. Frank is solely your takeaway from less than well, Jackie Bradley Jr. had a Utah. Hit. But to me, it's David price walking off the mound with elite. It's hard to believe that. Finally, he's leading in a playoff game. In fact, he came one out away from he would have gotten the win, but for Houston standpoint, their offense is so good. And unlike a lot of teams in baseball, including the Yankees and that just living for the home run, they take walks. They're looking to move runners that is a dangerous team and I still don't trust that Boston bullpen, isn't Israel? Number one reason why this series is one one as they go to use them. Honestly, it feels like good fortune for the Red Sox that they even got out of there with one. When you consider like Garrett, Cole, for example, hadn't given up five runs in forever all the regular season. He hadn't given a five runs at the third lager streak in the league. Even Jackie Bradley big hit. He'd been one for seventeen or two regular season with the basis loaded and he gets this hit. So. And you talk about criminal with kimbrough with a ten plus the RA in the postseason. It doesn't feel like it's should be a very confident Red Sox team going into Houston, Munich time. Same question. The reason why the series is one one right now, it's because Joey Cora got magic out of that bullpen and he'd made. Smart decisions using toward Selo actually me duck for that. Appraiser at this time last year he was pitching hero. She offer him to come out and do that wonderful, but is going to happen again, Tony, I don't think so. Tonight's game and they'll see us game three. You don't get just to say, okay, l. a.'s going home. They have the advantage, but hasn't series as played out and tonight just seeing Buehler who should feel better about themselves Frank. Well, it's definitely the dodgers and that's a great win for them to come back like they did on the road and I do not understand Greg council taking outweighed Miley. The guy was cruising any had a single in a double. Why is it that the minute they start is get into a little bit of trouble. They pull them out of the game and they didn't have Josh hater available in game two. That was a big one. Well, that's because he put so much in game one Israel you? Yeah, I think bueller, definitely. If you look at his home splits this year, he's been great at home. And yeah, the hater situation. I mean, that's basically Milwaukee strength right now they juggling that and we told you before the series started juggling that rotation juggling those those relievers. It's not really working out like it has a great game plan here, Barbara. Caffeine strain. He comes up with great start in the postseason after it got shellacked in Dodger Stadium in the middle of the year, I got like jeweler tonight, meaning word down. Feeler, and then I expected dodgers close us out because who's pitching for the parameters after we don't. They Bill bullpen star. You know, it's been successful brewers lost their first game. Three weeks now is worried about who's pitching for them. It didn't matter who was the three weeks before taking a break right here by her selling the side stick around. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance, good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine, a chemical. Bye. Beat the Broncos by three yesterday this manual Sanders touchdown came early. This Emmanuel Sanders point was flagged for swans. That Emmanuel Sanders touchdown was reviewed and marked down short of the end zone so that taunt push them back to the sixteen that touchdown that was taken off the board and the team was only able to kick a field goal losing four points and again, Broncos laws by three Sanders. Another player this season calling the league saw was that point really enough for a flag really enough to take four points off the board of the three point game eater. I'd like to think I think next to the celebration penalty, the taunting families stupidest one in the NFL, right? Because ninety percent of the time, it's stuff like that. Finger-wagging dancing things we do on this show. However, rain will Sanders nine seasons and he knows that gets called every time. So this is one hundred percent on him. He hurt his own team. You're on DVR your back. And we want to see when me to sit dancing. There was a little bit of a shoulder shitty. I tend to agree with me and I've given that that rule has been around for so long, but I do like the band to the back and forth between players. I think this is part of the detriment of not being able to see the faces, right? Because if you saw Sanders face and you saw the defenders safes and maybe thought it was kind of harmless, you'd let it go. But in this situation you have to throw that flag Franken. I Sola, no, it's the right hall. He walked eight yards to get in the guy's face. The problem is the spot on the field that should have been a touchdown to fifteen yards on the extra point that with the issue. That the issue. I don't think he was rushed when he had possession. I thought it was touched before yet position of Brian. How about you? I know the letter of the law. They have to go the flag, but I do think that a league that celebrates violence and even though now they're trying to pretend it's not it. Sport would go overboard. Your worry about taunting. I think it's ridiculous. Fire sell to if there ever getting easier Osweiler starting, then look like around dolphins, bears there ever game having seen play out that you thought it should have been a tie dolphins bears as well. Nobody looked like they wanted to win this one at times. And here we go. This also gave this Hetty suplex maybe a pump handle slammed. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Letter Floyd Danny, I'm a goal quarterback. What should be the overriding emotion here? Dolphins feeling good. They got a women Osweiler bears feeling bad Israel. I think the bears feeling bad and we talk about that defense and how the way it's been playing to give up that many points to Brock Osweiler offense. The dolphin Sheffield, good. It looks like Adam gates with some speed can do things with an offense. Regardless of who's a quarterback you're in. Miami talked to me about this that was able to get the play from Osweiler maybe wasn't getting from tannehill. It really is just a matter of trusting the receivers and basically the offensive line collapsing around tannehill hats, alignment hurt, and that last game and brought guys back. But really it's just a matter of having those fast guys on the edge being able to create Willis running free with with bears defenders vowed, even trying to tackle. I sold out to me. That was the big key here. The bears gave up too long touchdown plays. It goes reminds me of the first game of the season when the Green Bay Packers. March right down the field. If you're the bears is a brutal loss, especially when you had a chance in overtime and you missed field goal. Barbara, only one team lost. The buck Osweiler bears just when we thought they were pretty good, and they go away play like that. Then he turned Albert Wilson into Antonio, Brown bears spares bears. This is a cold shower for bears defense and previous like the best in the NFL, but then they met the unstoppable force. It is Brock Osweiler a MAC, and the pass rush where a non factor and exposed the secondary, which actually wasn't that great. All. If you had bears defense in your fantasy league, going into that game about twelve fifty five, you're listening. Had it didn't play out that way by herself three. Here's another game. Maybe didn't play out the way you saw Cowboys put up forty on the Jaguars in one forty, two, seven, who even knew the Cowboys offense could get into the forties and the Jaguars defense could go. So wrong Cowboys riding the Conor McGregor train right now for more about your overriding emotions. Again, Dallas feeling good or Jaguars feeling bad it to making Jerry Jones. When he loses flames. The Coachman they win. He gives credit to kind of Gregor to me. This is about Jacksonville defense, where's Jalen Ramsey now? And if I'm Jacksonville, make a call to New York, maybe get Eli manning to be your quarterback. You're serious about that. You're thinking. Right, right. How about you? Take the Jags pin an heading into freefall category for while? No, this is about the Cowboys shocking the world and even himselves by scoring forty points and now feeling much better about themselves. Meena losing. I'm going to channel Woody page here. Instead the Cowboys made sacks Ville. Look like daxon Ville. He ran all over that defense a pass was non existent. Wide receiver stretched out to secondary that was faithful spy once grade defense, Shabelle performance who Israel. I don't need to say much. I'm safely in showdown, but I will say Conor McGregor has clearly never touched a football before. If you saw at all before the game, cover your eyes, cover your eyes. All right. Mean times never go full of Woody fade. I think you learn about Ryan. Well. Showdown next. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent lightning storm here to describe the event a TV tray. I was watching football and holding a plate of Meatloaf, wind Cup, bam. A bolt of lightning slams into the apartment blowing out the TV and surround sound anything you could have done to help, ma'am. I'm a foldable table, not an electrician. You were TV trae can help you in a lightning storm, but the co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Go to Geico dot com to see how affordable renter's insurance can be. Guy sold a good luck in showdown, full fulsome, more ravens sack Marcus mariota eleven times in forty snaps yesterday. Israel is that a credit to the ravens are blamed, the titans situation. I mean, it has to be blamed to the titans. I know there are three and three. I know the first place, but you can only get to the Baltimore thirty seven yard line twice and both times get sacked on the next place. It's complete incompetence Ray Lewis Ed reader, long gone from Baltimore, and I get it. You know, the NFL is doing everything. It can to protect the quarterbacks. At some point, the offensive line has to protect them. We'll get killed by the end of the season. Eleven sex come on. We'll move on the buccaneers. This is my favorite play of the day. It was inches away from working being. One of the great game winning plays in history. A pitch back play, though. We're not one inch back actually was caught fill almost work Frank. How do you greedy? You know what? Tony, I put a lot of thought into this. Why not hugger higher rugby coach who can help you execute it because this work thanksgiving morning at my house in the NFL better athletes not so much. Have you have you really given a lot of thought to this? I question that Frank. I actually don't look at the Sean Johnson dishonor Jackson. They're jumping up and down like a child because he wasn't getting the ball, and then when they finally got pitch to him, kind of goes between his legs. I know it was a low pitch. Come on, man, focus. There you could have gotten in. You guys don't think this is one of the most innovative plays that you've seen in a long time and has just a good chance working out as a hell Mary in you're absolutely rushed the ball listening, nobody actually it was plink. Oh, it turned into playing go, I get it, but you're absolutely right for guy, Sola rugby coach and I played rugby, you know, my nickname at Fordham was Bambi. We won't get into why. Employ rugby coach, you'll win a game. Thank you. Bambi everybody knows that. Ron Dane. Maybe you heard he makes his debut this week for the Lakers. The big off season free agent signing. Well on hockey that player is John Taveras. He left the islanders joined the Toronto Maple Leafs. They are in first place, five in one record. He's got ten points is teammate, Austin Matthews has fourteen, so maybe it'll work at just as welcome the Braun as it is John Toronto, little hockey, Tony, Bambi. Seventh win ever versus Israel. Gutierrez in twin grad. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Stars and Scrubs | The Dantasy Football Podcast (Ep. 380)

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Stars and Scrubs | The Dantasy Football Podcast (Ep. 380)

"Hey, it's Liz Kelly. Welcome to the ringer podcast network. True detective is back and the ringers Chris Ryan and Jason Concepcion are guides as you navigate the twisting pathways of season three's plots beams and characters on the flat circle a true detective after show follow Jason. And Chris as chase down leads explore each episode's, cultural context and discuss true crime cases that Muir the ones in the show. Join the guys live every Sunday night after true detective on the ringers YouTube, Twitter and Facebook pages. Welcome. Welcome welcome. Come one, come all to the dentist football podcast. My name is Danny hyphen. I'm joined by my co host Anco Danny Danny Kelly. What up what is up man, we are here in studio, we got producer, Jim and fulltime Craig alot? Hello Pam starting Sean Manion this week. It's maniacal. Actually before we even get to some urgent news, which is Ramos running back early just tweeted at McKinsey basis. Bet she said who got MacKenzie businesses. I g Twitter is emoji pretty easy to find out. If you like in this world, the tweet that Google that's the the long shot of the week for de officio. That's a low percentage, but a high it's a high risk IRO workplace. And that's why we're not starting tell you really this. That's bulletin board. Material. He's not taking the Cowboys seriously. Thinking about that girl. All right. I'm really pumped. This is the divisional round. It's probably the best weekend. Maybe the whole year for DFS. I'm pretty excited as Kevin O'Connor would say pumped in jacked, and I'm pretty pumped because we're gonna some fun. We all of made it if it's lineup. We have no idea what it is. And by the end of this podcast may decay and full-time Craig we will live here with one agreed upon DFS lineup. We're gonna play the one and only fan duel half PR, we're going in style. So we're swinging for the fences, but we're going to greet there's gonna be blood bloodshed tears, hopefully name, Colin if we're any good at this. We're doing the full lineup all four games, by the way, not one day the whole weekend. Yeah. Because you know, it's like daily fantasy, but like types to the weekends like twice daily daily by. Let's good jeopardy. So yeah, we're going to run position by position and screaming each other until I get see if we can construct lineup at the end. I will tell everybody if we are over or under in price. And if that's the case, we'll figure it out. All right quarterbacks. I I've injury luck. I have Nick foles. Oh, I have Philip rivers a shit. I did luck. Because he I I only liked breeze Goff and Mahomes luck in this. And luck is the only one that his team cannot win without him. I don't think that she's pass. Rush is going to get to him their defense sucks. He's gonna have time. And it seems like the chiefs of good pass rush. But like they also get the just pin their ears back. I think the I think the culture in the game and you shred them. I like so I like the luck pick. I went for value this week at quarterback. I think if you look at it Philip rivers is the lowest valued quarterback among all his starters. I mean, I kind of like the Nick foles one too now that I think about it though. But I mean, if you look at rivers last few games, his stats are pretty bad. But he he faced the ravens the Broncos in the ravens in the last three games. I think that's probably part of why he's undervalued right now. He actually finished the season as QB eleven ever seventeen point seven points per game. I think that he is undervalued, and I wanna spend my money. On my roster this week on skill position. So that's why I went with rivers. I just think that if you look at the the relative value of how much he's got seventy three hundred right now. So that's eleven hundred extra dollars. This ma'am on skill positions compared to lock so that that's why I like rivers, but I do I kind of do like foles too. So I won't with falls one because he's a Demi God. And you don't want to go against one of those two disguise into be a shootout. And he's the cheapest shootout option, I think nor Orleans us giving up Twenty-nine most points to the pass and Phil although one hundred dollars cheaper. I think they charge you're gonna win more dedicated to run the football and the eagles don't have a prominent running back whatsoever. This game's going to be in the forties and thirties and Nick foles one hundred thousand dollars cheaper than Andrew luck. Who was my second option? I originally had luck. And I thought that the difference between luck and foles a thousand dollars was too great compared to the potential of scoring between the two and I'd rather have that a thousand somewhere else? I can see it. I liked that argument. Concede concede unluck. I'm not sure if I want fools rivers, I'll concede unluck, Oklahoma one hundred dollar difference. All right. So we got to choose between foles and rivers. So what is it? What's going to be, Dan? I think you're kind of. We both gave you our pitch. What's the weather going to be like in New England? I I'm might be snowy. I'm going to merge this. I'm gonna already break the rules that we the arbitrary rules. I'm going to break this conversation and merged into the running back thing. Just because I I think the patriots are going to be running the bulletin. I think it's weird to say. But I think after the ravens just ran the ball a bunch against the chargers. And then over what made a big deal of like the chargers having seven defensive backs in the in the secondary like kind of playing safeties as linebackers. They were able to do that for two reasons. One their defensive line kind of dominated the ravens offensive line. And if the charges defensive line didn't do that than those, you know, Adrian Phillips on the safeties open the box would have got crushed. They also kind of knew what the ravens we're going to do. They're not going to know what the patriots are doing. So they're not going to be able to play those guys and often attention here. But what I'm saying is if the chargers aren't able to know what the offense is doing. There's a real chance that they're going to get exposed to having those linebackers. I think the patriots. Going to have like a very like Sony Michelle dominated maybe even like Rex Burkhead kind of game plan. So I'm actually intrigued by the idea of not a full rivers while doing better than the ravens not being in the shootout. And maybe Nick foles. So I'm going to foles helium foles. I'm gonna concede on that. Because now that I think about it. I think it's gonna be really cold tensely, windy, high Henshaw, the high thirties Nowy. Yeah. So in in a shootout shoot at number one. I think that's smart too. It's going to be in a dome, but and the one thing I think that the saints do really really well right now is recipes her and foles has been very good against. Yeah. Just not getting sacked. He's he's that's like I think the biggest thing that he brings to the eagles offenses ability to avoid sacks and get the ball out quick. So kind of like that arm into that one quarterback done. That was pretty painless running backs. I went with Moreland MAC, Damian Williams, and then at flex because of what I just said about the patriots Rex Burkhead. What about y'all get? So I share to Danny hypothesis. I also have Marlin MAC, and Damian Williams, and my other other running back Ezekiel Elliott, I knew it liked you. All right. So I got Kamara eighty four hundred zeal Elliott eighty seven hundred then sproles as my flex spending. We could probably agree to go with Elliot like we can just put him down. He's the highest ceiling highest floor guy on the field because. Yeah, early and Melvin Gordon are both shaken up and maybe splitting times the C J Anderson in Austin cler and zeke's lock for twenty carries into touchdown. I mean, like what we said last week last six games of the season Elliott had twenty two carries hundred plus yards and seven catches a game. And then last week he had twenty six hundred thirty seven yard touchdown four catches thirty yards. He's just now sued belco. I think we can green on that. Where you guys are going to have to kind of. I think we need to decide between like Kamara and Mack who do you like more? Why do you like MAC tell me what you like about MAC this week? Chiefs defense sucks at rush defense. And I don't buy the idea that even if the colts fall behind Maccabi useless. I think max gonna get his no matter what how this game goes way safer than it. Seems I also don't. I mean, the last time they played the saints in the eagles played is very different game. But it was basically marking his best game of the second best game of the year. And I kind of makes me framed for the price for Kamara. Right. I have a question. So I think we're down valley, we're down Marlin MAC. Yeah. I think way more frayed of Damien Williams because Spencer where we have not what is usage will be even though I think Williams more talented. So guys were priced similar Damian Williams that will run through before we just lock these in. I mean, we've got Sony Michelle who I love sixty six hundred Damien Williams is sixty one Rex Burkhead at fifty five sixty four we're talking about flex. Yeah. Exactly wide receiver. So tied-in. Why we I think Ecuador is an interesting choice to because right now Melvin Gordon still nursing at what was the ankle injury. He's been limited at practice. I don't know if he's gonna play if he does play. There's always injury red like aggravated or whatever some of us. Don't hope people get hurt decay cheese, the thing with Damian Williams is he has the. Potential to be the lead running back in like the best offense in football with the highest over under and the team gets the running back over all like gets the ball all the time. Yeah. Then Spencer where it's been out for a while the hamstring injury. And he was an active last week. Even though he the on week seventeen even though he played a practice the whole week. So we don't really know if they're going to incorporate him that much it almost feels like they've kind of moved onto Damian Williams. Daryl Williams, the backup gut garbage time. Russia's last time he was just the best player in the field visibly every time you watch. It's like he's making people miss. He's the best receivers the best runner. He should. He's also the best value in this group. So they're ten red zone looks and there's last three games slot. All right. I think we stick with them. All right. So full Zeke, Damian Williams MAC Affleck's, basically, I feel like Mary either end up we cut actually we'll circle back receivers. I have Michael Thomas, Amari, Cooper, and Dontrelle Inman. Yes. I have a marketer. I call. Fight me. I have Sean Jeffrey golden Tate in Amari Cooper. Oh my God. I think we've got we have all different people. I've got Robert woods, Nelson, Aguilar and Chris HOGAN, so we have we have two people on the Mark Cooper high train. All right. I'll put him in lock him in. I've everyone host. He kiss hated more. Coop is all year. Tony. There's still hasn't do cheap. They expect him. Here's my concern with Robert woods, and I really like Robert woods. But I mean, he's predominantly kind of basically since Cooper Cup got hurt. Largely. They moved Robert woods inside to the slot. And then Josh Reynolds, but on the outside and the Cowboys have to pretty good slot corners. Anthony Brown's good in the slot. Like the Cowboys actually, it's one of their better defensive things. I think the Cowboys I mean Deka you wrote about how like the Cowboys defense verse play action sub optimal the Rams, right? Run more plaque than anybody in the league. I mean, it's one of the most in heavy offense has ever. That's why I wanted to get around receiver in there. So I'm concerned about the Rams receiver though, whether we can predict it that's how I feel about the saints wide receivers. That's why I kind of don't want anyone on the saints because they spread it around too much. I don't think you can bet on one person even Michael Thomas. Micheal Thomas, is that a lot of dads. Yeah. I agree. I could talk off Thomas, especially to tyreek hill, which was Fresno. And had he's another guy who can put up four point weeks. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I wanna spend all my money on a guy who can put up four points when I can honestly get somebody much cheaper with a much higher floor like alshon Jeffery who said fifty yards or touchdown each of the past five games. I don't love alshon jet. I mean, he's a guy who kind of I don't think he matches up with a well-designed secondary. So here, here's here's one stat for the Saint secondary. I think their thirtieth again Devi away against him one receiver thirty first individually against number two receivers. So they have struggled. You know that they've cleaned up their defense quite a bit in the second half of the season. But they still struggled against receivers specially top two guys. So that's why I had aga- Lor on my list on then we have the full stack with Jeffrey. Yeah. Foes, I have full Jeffrey and tape because I think the eagles either it's going to be garbage time or it's going to be. Close shootout. You guys are out on the Rams receivers. It's nothing. I'm out on the Rams receiver just feel anyway by the saints or I don't know who's going to do what? The saints. I'm more confident that it'll be Michael Thomas, and then other people I mean, this was the saints eagles. The first round was the trick wants myth breakout game. But I agree that it's like it's trying to guess who they're going to do is fools ironed. And I I'm not foolish enough to believe. I know what Sean Payton drew Brees are gonna do. I mean was a thanksgiving game with drafted dudes crushed it. I mean, so with the I mean, so how strongly do you feel Robert woods versus just the Rams passing game decay? I was more bullish just on the entire passing game. So I'd like woods woods or cooks. And they're right in the same range woods, seventy five hundred cokes seventy four hundred. I don't know. Like, if you guys have I guess an inkling on who you like more. I don't we don't need to go with Rams necessarily. But the stat that I was point out in Bill Barham appointed to sell the Cowboys posted to pass rating of hundred twelve against play action this year, which is the six worth worst in the NFL. And then Wilson and this just pisses me off because the Seahawks didn't do it enough. But Wilson torch Dallas on play action last week. He was nine or ten for a hundred eleven yards. Eleven point one yards for a tent they threw deep, and they were very effective against it. And I don't think the same. I don't think the Rams are going to do with the Seahawks did and just try and run the whole day. And so that was my argument for either of those guys I'd like to go with with woods was overcooked. Yeah. Okay. I was leaning cooks but not enough to care find Robert so fair right now, we got what foles Zeke, Damian Williams alshon, Jeffery Maury Cooper now. No, alshon. We just have a Mark Cuban Robert woods, unless we Shawn Dickey. What do you think about Al, Sean? I like it. I'm into one of those guys whether it's Jeffrey or agile or or Tate cheaper. Yeah. We're going to get screwed in the long run maybe safer to go with a guy like golden Tate who paid off last week. What what about with the touchdown? What what do you think happens in colts chiefs because here's the thing. If we think that the colts games going to be shootout, we have Moreland MAC. But if we think it's gonna be a lot of passing we could throw t y Hilton there. Throw Ibran their tight end. But I'm kinda like if we think there's gonna be these passing Dontrelle? So here's my number of the colts snaps last week, there were seventy eight total. So I seventy three total TY Hilton played fifty seven seventy eight percent Dontrelle Inman had fifty one seventy percent than just Rogers forty four. I kind of really love Inman against this chiefs offense because the chiefs defense sucks, I think it's going to be a lot of thing. I think that he's the best better bang for the buck than Tate, just numbers wise and targets and all those things I know touchdown. I think in the last three games, I wanna say, yeah. So I mean, there's volatility there, but I kind of liked that better than Tate. But maybe. I could go I could go for it. Yeah. I could too. He's banged up are now he's limited with a shoulder. That's the that's the that's the big knock they play Saturday. So you could monitor his health, and if he doesn't play you could swap out for somebody who's exactly sure let's do handed of tentative Inman all right handed tight and I'm really excited about title. Yeah. Well, yeah. This changes things for me. What do we do? You got hyphen. Trump's kelsey. Danny kelly. I got I had Iran penciled in here. I don't know if we're going to be able to afford Kelsey at this point. I have Mr Robert gronkowski. Ooh. How I explain that to me. Okay. I don't think we are putting enough thought into the difference between the playoff patriots in the regular season. Patriots was fair. Scott, take it is absolutely possible that they have been sitting on gronk for the entire season and just saving him because they knew that they were going to be where they were right now grunk twenty nine he's not thirty nine his last three playoff games. He's averaged nine catches for seventy two yards and a touchdown. His last three playoff games. He's played the last game. He played nine catches one sixteen two touchdowns in the Super Bowl. And there's an equal. I mean, he's so he's the fourth most expensive behind Brown Kelsey in arts. And there is an equal gap in pricing between Travis Kelsey and gronk as there is between gronk and hunter Henry he's he's just too cheap for his ceiling. I think you're exactly right on that. Logic may issue with it is the chargers are really well. Built to look very athletic to stop him. I mean, if you I mean Derwin James is like a perfect person and this iteration of the patriots offense without Josh, Gordon. I mean told me from wrong, I don't know if there's really been a team with a decent defense that has doubled drunk and not been able to shut down there. Other guys one on one. So I'm kind of worried if I mean, if I'm the chargers and to have really good defense again points, if you double him, I don't know who their other receivers are beating and that's why I think it'd be more run heavy. So I'm not convinced that he kinda dominates. And that's a great argument. It's all we talked about this before we started recording about how there is a little bit of a gut feeling how when it comes to daily fan. You're the gun on ground. You're you're right. On Monday morning. We're like, man. Why don't you get three touchdowns? He's he's grown, of course. Yep. You touchdown. Don't you know, I like that logic? I'm gonna throw another stat at you. Yeah. Please. Do this is interesting. I guess guess which team was number one in DVD versus tight ends this year lows charges charge. Yeah. Who the most that's the thing? And the other thing about them playing all those seven defensive backs last week is that it's crazy. But like it's not that crazy because they play six defensive backs the most in football, they lead that twenty seventeen. I they're they're weirdly they have really fiscal guys were Cape, especially not that elusive this year. But I'm torn, but here's I had Kelsey. But now that we have full I would stack him with earth's actually. But we probably can't afford them at that moment. Yeah. Inch. Wow. I'm intrigued by this croc. He's he's coming off a bye. I just feel like what do you think? I think gronk is like it's not a logical pick. It's. It's. And getting gronk is a contrarian place kind of fun to be. That would be like winning with gronk would feel better than winning with everyone else. I work mitt that couldn't you see next week when the patriots win that gronk will now be the two hundred dollars behind Kelsey. We'll be like, of course, he is. Of course, that would be more fun to win with cross than any other scenario. This is like Nick foles and gronkowski. This is like I can be swayed obviously, the chargers defense thing is fantastic point. I was literally going off the fact of like right about that. I'm feel stupid of gronk goes nuts. And we're like man he was so cheap. I want the charges to win. But I also want rob gronkowski for touchdown. So this is interesting. But I also kind of just want trust patriots fans about this game. I might like my elevator pitch in this game is just listened to the fans, which is this team is unethical and weirdly one dimension without Josh, Gordon. The chargers are versatile and athletic as hell and just really well balanced. And I just think it's a bad batch of them. But you could convince me to rock you even this kind of actively dumb. But I kinda I'm kinda info Blake jar. When it is. Would you be surprised to find out that Bill? Had gronk play all season with a Little Rock in his shoe like an actor does. So they're like completely walked though, he just he just takes it out for the plane, superman, here's what it is. It's they there's a report special report from Seth wicker Shannon last week of January that they hired Daniel day Lewis cares to as a consultant to teach gronk how to pretend to be hobbled. He's actually been training with lebrons guy doing. He's actually at peak form. I wouldn't fake lines trade story. I'll check we'll do it. All right. Let's in crock right now for Shinsen gigs. And we'll circle back and see if we have the money to upgrade at Hebron or someone else. Circling back the defense on that. No. I got the chargers I do too. I have a Cowboys fan. I just could be swayed so easily I think with the chargers I'm Brady looks shook when he gets pass rush in a way that patriots fans say they haven't seen basically ever. I mean, it's the cheapest of the defenses that I want the Cowboys eagles are colts. And it's the cheapest of the other things the best bet. I that's why I wanted to charter to is the chargers have that sack fumble potential because is such a good pass rushing team. Melvin ingram. Just went off last week. Bo says the next factor. They've got Derwin James who is used as a Blitzer in just kind of everywhere they got a couple all pros in their secondary. I don't know it just to me it just adds up to potential turnovers. Like, you said Brady's been just not quite as sharp as he has been in previous seasons. They don't have much talent on that offense either. So yeah, I like the chargers though, you know, picking against the the patriots at home is always a little bit scary NASCAR, it it's this is the end of the dynasty bright. Here is the end right says, the China is Iraq, Iran. Caskey fun fact actually believe that. But you know. Okay. So here is our finalized lineup. So far, we have Nick foles Ezekiel Elliott, Damien Williams, Amari Cooper, Robert. Woods Dontrelle Inman, rob gronkowski, Marlin MAC. And the chargers defense we are five hundred dollars over. Spent a little too much money. So which we do I think we should move Morlin MAC to flex and then cut him and then because he's too expensive. Then we should cut him and save money at running back because we like Damien Williams value. Yeah. We're not getting rid of Zeke. And so that saves us to seventy three hundred you get rid of him. Now, we have sixty eight hundred free, and there's a lot of good options in the cheaper range. There's Sony Michelle. There's lebronettes tied to tight ends. This Mark Ingram. Williams is a lot of interesting, dude. So de k what do you think about flex options? So my thought right now is we could either keep gronk in there at tight end and go with a guy like Sony, Michelle Williams or Iran, or we can drop Comcast ski put Iran in there. And then find a guy who's like sixty four hundred dollars. Which is the Mark Ingram. Nelson. Agar Agar lower range of. Guys, which I kind of lean towards that. Because I don't feel great about Michelle. I don't feel great about Mike Williams. So I think since we none of us really felt that great about gronkowski. Even though it was kind of a fun pick. I think maybe we drop gronk can put Iran in there. And then get like a sixty four hundred dollar. Okay. So so I just did that. So I dropped and replaced him with abra. Now that gives us sixty four hundred isn't the best option on his list. Grunk? It will that will also I don't know it makes me feel better at Hebron because I believe the culture going to be a shootout. And it makes me feel better to have more colts in there after we cut back. Okay. I it makes me feel better have imitate Andy Brown. So would these remaining guys I'll admit that trust Nelson Adler more than gronk, and it will Afghan. I don't know how they're the. They're the same price think it's pretty close. Honestly, I had eat here. Let me let me give you my Adler pitch because I had him on my list. He's played the least amount of snaps. He's played the last four weeks is ninety percent. He's playing time. The saints again are three I in delay against number two receivers, I think alshon Jeffery count his as their number one Aguilar his stats last four weeks with foale's at quarterback six targets recap. Just thirty two yards week seventeen. He had six catches five are sorry. Five catches forty yards in two touchdowns week before that against Houston. Five catches one hundred sixteen yards in touchdown. And then the week before that two targets one catch eight yards. So he's a little bit boomer bust. Definitely. But gronk is extremely boomer bust. Also, a my I'm my advocation is for playoff gronk. Which I know is a swing for the fence in his is the opposite of analytical. What are you can be the tiebreaker on this super well for the also I think echo is interesting. I still love Rex Burkhead. But I understand. I don't think I'm gonna win you guys. Don't want back like ninety of them fair. I'm not gonna win this battle. Is also Ingram. Mark ingram. Could be really good one. I think Craig just really wants play. Gronk. I'm just we do. Should we do Craig this? We trust Craig's got here. Just go at this. All gronk. Remember the last on our last many pot? Introducing DFS we talked about how tournaments are all about stars in scrubs and gronk is kind of somehow both. Yeah. That's you know, what that's a value. You're getting story into scrub. Wow. Look at you. That's some serious Nelson. Thank you. You know, what that's actually I kind of liked that argument just because my little tagline like that argument. You know, what you're right. He is a star to scrub. Thank you. So we're going gronk. I caught it. You know, what I kind of weirdly like this lineup. That's that's that's good. All right. So who do you guys look at and when one of these guys just completely screws us who's it's going to be other than gronk? Who's like the Mark Mark euchre for sure. Oh, really know. Actually, here's here's actually why I am not worried about more Cooper. I think the Rams are gonna score a lot of points in the Cowboys are going to have to the volume. I think he's gonna so much value. Also, I won't feel that dumb because he's not that expensive. He's a pretty good bet for the money. I'm surprised actually I think he's going to get so much. I kinda think Robert woods. Now proper with two seven five hundred dollars. He's more expensive than Al Sean cooks Keenan, Allen, efficient use over money woods. But. I trust Danny Kelly Kelly. Well, all right. So I think we're good with this. So we're gonna quarterback Nick foles running back Ezekiel Elliott running back, Danny Williams receivers Dontrelle Inman, Amari Cooper, Robert woods, tight end, Eric, Iran. We are flexing rob gronkowski. Jeff is man once told me was like wearing flip flops with jeans, it's frowned upon. Thank you. Thank you fulltime. Craig? Thank you, Jim. Most of all thank you, everyone for listening a best of luck with your lineups and enjoy the divisional round. So you guys next week?

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Game of the Year: 49ers beat Saints in wild one

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

34:15 min | 8 months ago

Game of the Year: 49ers beat Saints in wild one

"With the NFL playoffs. Just around. The corner now is the time to subscribe to Rutta World Football podcast every Monday morning. Recap every game from the weekend. Tuesday help you on waiver. PICKUPS GOPS then go to game and Matra previews on Thursday and Friday so download the railroad football guess right now Welcome to the FM. I A mini pod. My Name's Peter King. This is my podcast. Asked my short podcasts. For the week that will introduce you to my football morning in America column for week fourteen in the NFL season. It's Sunday night about three forty seven. Am I met my apartment in Brooklyn not on the road this week and I concentrated a lot of my column this week. Take on the San Francisco New Orleans game forty eight forty six game one of the best football games I have seen in years. I don't know how how anybody could disagree with that. Unless you're brokenhearted over being a saints fan but I'm going to start by reading a short note wrote from Anthony. Chen Seahawks Fan. Who wrote to me this week and said wrote to me and and sort of in support of the mini pod? He he said. Recently my wife and I welcomed our second child baby girl number two into the world. I was fortunate enough to be given six weeks off for my company to spend time time with my family and to watch them grow with the second child in our home our days and nights became much more hectic and as a result our family wasn't able to win Joy Sundays as we normally would watching the full slate of NFL Games are free. Time became very limited. We kept our favorite team. The seahawks hawks our top priority and spent the rest of our time keeping the kids. Busy as a result. Your mini pot has been a perfect addition to my Monday morning lineup of podcasts. Outcasts through the mini podcast. Able to get I'm able to get a great recap of all the games and headlines around the NFL and still feel like I'm in tune with what's going on around the league. I also enjoy the ADO Haiku each week to cap off the pot. Well Anthony have have a great time with your kids. I'm sure you're probably upright now with them. Aren't you at three forty nine wherever you are in the world. I guess you're out on the west coast but I really appreciate your writing Good luck with your two girls. And I'm glad I'm able to keep you a little bit informed about what's going on around the league so what we're going to do as usual to review the lead to my column tell you what else I have in my column and then give you a couple Blah thoughts on every game in the NFL. That was played on Sunday so after the game. Is You know. On Sundays. I usually talk to a few you players this week. I talked to George Kill of the forty niners. I talked to Matthew Judah of the Ravens Linebacker had a great game team defensively in their win over buffalo and I talked to drew lock young Denver quarterback after a second start. And let me tell you this. You're not gonNA have a lot on on this mini pot about the Denver Broncos but while I've been impressed watching drew lock one of the best things that could happen to him was taking aching time and not getting rushed into the job. I saw him in training camp. I did not think he looked very good but he sure has looked good. The last two Sundays particularly regularly today so a little bit on all of that my column. But let's start with the lead of my column on the San Francisco Norlander Orlands game. Here we go. It'll take days to digest what happened in New Orleans on Sunday in the game of the year. If it ended saints forty a six nine hundred forty five which was the score after fifty nine minutes and twenty seconds. We'd probably all still call it the game of the year but the fact did it didn't end then in the fact that something happened on fourth into that immediately takes its place in all time forty niners Lore and and vaulted San Francisco from fifth to first in the NFC play offerings with three games to go well that makes it all NFL NFL films e Tinguely and massively important in the playoff race at the same time the whole day George Kittles said an hour after it was over for me was one of the best experiences of my life. The place was crazy. Fans were nuts. You couldn't hear such a fun environment. Even if you've seen the kid play ten times by now there are things you don't know things you'll want to know. The scene thirty nine seconds left fourth and two for the San Francisco. It's thirty three yard. Line the forty niners needed at least thirty two yards to get in range. Her Robbie Gold Field Goal. Try there's a two by two formation two receivers left and a tight end and white outright with where where he mustered aside card Jimmy Garoppolo in the backfield. The play clock wound down four three garoppolo nervously Clapping in now. Warning the ball oa-to he doesn't want to delay. Oh One shotgun snap precisely zero zero but wait time out coach. Kyle Shanahan called a time out. I'm just trying to get the playwright. She and a hand said later he. It barely called time in time but he thought of something better to get the two yards something. Better named George Kittle L.. Kid who was going to be the epicenter on this choice route and he in Garoppolo Nuit Garoppolo never went to the sideline above the din. The huddle he heard Shanahan call the play into his helmet very soon. After the timeout started right away. He looked kittle. Hey you're gonNA get the ball on this Garoppolo. The Cool Jillian air told kiddle the one hundred forty six th pick in the two thousand seventeen draft draft. You better win. So the League's top heavy this year and six teams have ten or eleven wins ends heading into the last three weeks two of those teams Seattle and San Francisco are in the NFC west and one could finish thirteen and three and face. He's nothing but road games to get to the Super Bowl entering Sunday. Seattle and San Francisco ten to but Seattle had the tiebreaker edge until the niners were ensconced as a wildcard as they took the superdome field. Said kittle Kyle. Talk to us about that before the game. Technically we were the fifth seed. But we've got our destiny in our hands. We knew that the game was insane. Each team team scored four times in the first half four times in the second it was twenty eight twenty seven niners at the half. After halftime the teams Pingpong Points Saints First Niners Saints Niners Saints Niners and then with fifty three seconds pins left in the fourth quarter saints. On an eighteen yard touchdown pass from drew brees to train Quan Smith to make it forty six x forty five New Orleans. no-one open on the two point. Conversion Pass So San Francisco could just kick a field goal. Well that would end it. Breeze by the way was stupendous. In a performance that left him to touchdown passes shy of breaking Peyton. Manning's all time touchdown record of five thirty nine five touchdowns no interceptions on the day for brees. How many more games like this? He has a month Of turning forty one I do not know but this one with the stakes involved was an all time for him. On that. Go ahead touchdown. Johnny saw huge Mitch Mismatch Trae Kwan. Smith isolated on middle. Becker Fred Warner and zip the ball onto Smith for an easy touchdown or at least breeze made it look easy as he so often does. So many saints have been in this spot before playing in front of a howling in crowd with Games divisions in playoff berths on the line breeze and Cam Jordan. Thomas Morstead Toronto Armstead and even even some of the young guys like Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas but most to the niners were brand new to this Garoppolo looked a bit affected. It did in the Monday night loss a month ago. Seattle misfiring and key spots and missing a few open receivers not Sunday. He and breeze each threw for three hundred forty nine yards with a quarterback rating over one hundred and thirty Jimmy G. played on the breeze stage age in the Breeze House and acquitted himself quite well and I'd have written that regardless of what happened in the last thirty nine seconds seconds in New Orleans on Sunday so thirty nine seconds left now. This was different Shanahan. After the timeout timeout had three receivers bunch just outside the left tackle Kendrick born the tip of the spear with Emmanuel Sanders to his left and in a full step back and kill slightly right and behind born. You could see what Shanahan had mind born in Sanders would clear out for kiddle and unless Saints Defensive Coordinator. Dennis Allen decided to double kiddle. Garoppolo would make kill the I read at the snap. Born ran hard up the left seem and sanders did a five yard crossing route left to right and there was one man. Rookie Safety Safety. chauncey Gardiner Johnson guarding kiddle was safety. Marcus Williams about ten yards upfield over the top protecting if kill beat the kid on the choice route kiddle told me you just motion over from right to left. And if it's man I line up behind me and you'll in Kaby EBB and they clean it out for me. The Guy Covering me set pretty far inside choice means I can break in or break out with him. Sitting inside Garner Johnson basically made the decision for me. I broke outside kiddle on third down. Hadn't gotten inside Gardner Johnson who broke up the short pass from Garoppolo to make it forth to but on the fourth down call. Shanahan was right to call time. I'm in switch the play. The white outs cleared out the space. Enforce the Saints Demand Coverage on kettle grapple led him perfectly and hit kindle precisely Zeisler at the first down. Mark the thirty five yard. Line Gardner Johnson drove it kills legs and he missed. KITTLE turned up field. Along along the left sideline he was unchallenged. Till Midfield Marcus Williams reached unintentionally grabbed kittles. facemask mask with his right hand and kill became a bucking maniac. Right around the forty eight yard line of the Saints Kiddle reminded to me of Mark Bavaro in that nineteen ninety game against the niners carrying Ronnie Lott for twelve yards and needing three San Franciscans to bring him down. Funny thing. Kindle wasn't upset that Williams grabbed and tug the mask I knew he'd get flagged for so I was actually happy. It just meant fifteen more yards for us. kittle said so I asked. What's going through your mind is this guy's grabbing your face mask and not letting letting go and two other guys join in to try to take you down? You remember. You were thinking. Get as many yards as I can and hold onto the damn football. He said from the contact facemask hold by Williams till three saints Hog tied. Him Down was twenty yards in the gain was thirty nine yards at the fourteen yards. Half the distance of the goal line for the facemask ask call and San Francisco at first and ten at the Saints Fourteen. This little fourth into Gambit Shanahan's last millisecond second time out the efficient necessary born in Sanders clearing out in the thirty seven yard. Kill run looking like a bull rider in one of those Texas. Texas bars knitted thirty. Or I'm sorry. Netted fifty three yards fifty three not bad for a guy who caught only forty forty eight balls in four years at Iowa before the niners saw something athletic and rough and tough in him in the scouting process in two thousand seventeen. Me and the play was pretty fun. Kibble said Zits your biggest play ever. I asked with what was at stake. Probably the niners bench went nuts on the play is Richard. Sherman said. Most people would go down and complained to the refs about the facemask but he was like. I'm GonNa Bull you all the way to the end zone until you stop me. We don't win this game without that play. Shanahan was already thinking of what to call. After the fourth into conversion he had no idea kid kid would do what he did. It said Shanahan kiddle took care of that gold. Thirty Yard Field Goal at zero zero one on it. Forty eight forty six. Football's the best thing in the world. kittle said practically gushing over the phone from Louisiana. Well I was gushing to and I'll admit it after that ridiculous game what this means to us what it means to the saints. What it means to the fans who were incredible the team aspect of the game? The way everyone here feels like a part. They're part of something special. That's what it is. It was special. Now we've got twenty four hours to celebrate this bad boy then we're onto next week. I can't wait to play more or football back in San Francisco interesting road now with the Seattle loss at the Rim Sunday night night San Francisco takes over first place in the NFL NFC. Top seed at eleven. In to the Falcons in rams come to Santa Clara in the next two weeks while ten and three Seattle is at Carolina next week and home to Arizona in two weeks. There's a real chance the San Francisco at Seattle game in week. Seventeen could be immense the division title of first round by the dreaded five seed aide all could be in play December twenty nine at centurylink field. That game might mean more than the one Sunday in New Orleans but but I have no idea how could be any more fun in any more compelling. That's the end of the lead into my column a few other things from the column itself before I get two games. I wrote a section in my column this week. On a boy named Anthony Myers. He was a football player at Berks Catholic High School in Reading Pennsylvania. At the age of seventeen last Wednesday he died of malignant brain. Tumor wrote about him briefly last year in my column in this year I talked to was strength. Coach who's incredibly broken up over this death In this kid lived a life very much. That's worth celebrating. I hope you enjoy this part of my column my one player of the week that I was really kind of happy you to give to was Matt Nagy the head coach the bears and I'll read you this with everyone in Chicago Golan Howling for the head of Mitchell trubisky and everyone in media including me calling for Bisky to be benched Nagy stood behind trubisky continually this year maybe fell the had to maybe did it because the bears were three and five at one point and he viewed chase. Daniel is just justin emergency guy not a quarterback to lead the team to the playoffs but trubisky started a turnaround in part in week. Twelve win over the giants and then in the last two games at Detroit and then Dallas at home. He's had a one sixteen point point. Nine rating completing seventy five percent of his throws coaches have to swim against the tide at times and sometimes it kills the team mm-hmm and sometimes it gives the team life now. It looks like Nagy's endless votes of confidence in his battered quarterback. Were smart and important. My go-to the week. This week of the two officials who missed the in Kiel Harry touchdown call and Foxborough costing the Patriots at least four points and maybe more my profile this week John Hayden hearst the Baltimore tight end. Who who did you guys all know this that Hayden hearst was Pittsburgh pirates draft choice in two thousand twelve. He's a he was a pitcher and he got a severe case of the yips which means that he lost the ability to throw strikes and and he flamed out out of baseball by two thousand fifteen but obviously he's had a good. A comeback in football was a first round pick of the Ravens. They picked picked him even before they pick Lamar Jackson a couple of years ago and You'll enjoy reading his little story. I think the the one thing that a look I really love this a hey how much you'll like it but one of my facto AIDS in the column this week is this in two thousand eight. His last year Georgia Matthew Stafford never completed seventy percent of his passes in any any of his thirteen games in two thousand nineteen his last year at Lsu. Joe Borough has never completed less then seventy percent of his passes in any of his thirteen games. I don't know I. I just thought that was really a fun. Fun Stat. Dat funded just ponder how much life has changed in the SEC. In eleven years and also how great I borough could very well be in the NFL. Okay so I'm going to get to a few. I'm going to get to the Sunday Sunday games. And just talk a little bit about them. And then I'll get to my Ado Haiku so we'll start with the EH Baltimore win over Buffalo in Orchard Park New York Ravens Twenty four bill seventeen I think the interesting part of this and what I talked to Matthew Jude on about after the game very impressive Young Linebacker for Baltimore is that the Baltimore Ravens now. They've had this incredible run on this seven and overrun. Starting two months ago against Seattle ending today in Buffalo they have beaten all comers five five of those teams are going to be in the playoffs most likely and they beat them all most of them substantially and so. I think the one thing I came came away from moving in and out of that game. I I mostly watch the The saints in the niners but moving in and out of that game. The one thing I took away. Is that win. Lamar Jackson has just an okay day or a bad day. They're not necessarily going to lose. The game they their defense is played so well in the last three or four weeks. I think they've got a real chance to survive Lamar Jackson stinker in the postseason such as when he had last year against the chargers in his first playoff start ever the box over the colts. Thirty eight thirty five. It's it's so interesting. I was on my way to to ripping tipping Jameis Winston again for throwing all these interceptions and then you look up and he is you know. Even with a bit of an injured hand. He supposedly has a A fracture small fracture in his hand. And it didn't seem to bother them all that much in the game. So You wouldn't think he would miss time with three weeks left to go but we'll see as the week goes on the colts. I would definitely be worried about. Their defense. Should be better better than this and I mean they just do not hold up defensively for a full game game. This is the second week in a row that they've blown apart in the second half of games and really their last ask. Gas Probably is next Monday night against the saints. They just you know they've gotTa Start Winning Games if they're going to have any prayer of playing in the postseason Minnesota Twenty Detroit seven. Look the lions are one and nine in their last ten games. I'm not saying saying they're a lost cause but you know they just they can't even look Matthew Stafford is part of most of those losses So it isn't just you know they're they're they're they're not winning because they're starting quarterback is out. I'd be a little worried about the lions. I would not be too worried about the vikings think they probably should have scored a little bit more. But I do think that the Vikings things interest me so much entering the postseason because they could be one of the best six six seeds. If that's what happens in recent years in the NFL Denver thirty eight Houston twenty-four look. Drew Lock is a fun and football player. WHO has a great time out there? And who today Sunday was I'd say twenty five percent better than he wasn't his debut he still is not playing much bombs away football so I'm sure Denver's going to try to to get him to throw downfield a little bit more before the end of this season but the one thing that that drew lock has done is that he has has basically now prevented John elway from automatically thinking that. I've got to go get a quarterback in the off season. I doubt Joe FLACCO comes back for them but whatever happens you know if lock has a couple more good games. I I think there's a very good chance. The the Denver Broncos will not go looking for quarterback in the off season Green Bay twenty Washington fifteen all sorts of stuff coming out of the packers about hey winning ugly and and we'll take wins any way we can get them and all that Aaron Rodgers said that I wouldn't mind winning ugly all the way to the Super Bowl but truly they're just just they make some big plays but they are not consistent at all offensively which I think is really worrying. Rogers and and a and worrying a lot of their offensive personnel Atlanta Forty Carolina twenty. Look this is not a raise. The white flag. We Love Ron Rivera. Anything like that from the panthers. They're just not good their quarterback his regressed and I just think right. Now that they're going to be a total inconsistent mess for the last three weeks weeks of the season. They could play well but most likely they're not gonNA play well and and they're gonNA sink to the bottom sometime in the next three weeks. CLEVELAND twenty-seven Cincinnati Nineteen. Now of course it was overshadowed by Baker Mayfield saying after the game that he didn't think thank the medical staff at handled Odell Beckham. Junior well this year and also overshadowed by the Jay glaser report saying that Odell definitely wants out. He's been asking people around the league. Help me get me out of here. and Odell Beckham wouldn't talk about it after the game. You know you really should whatever the veracity or lack thereof in the story and I certainly do believe the story not a great day for Andy Dalton not a great day for a lot of people on the bengals but one good thing is. They're still in the pole position for Joe Borough so I think that's A. I think that is a positive jets. Twenty two Miami Twenty one in one of my special teams players of the week was The the the the kicker for the dolphins and the one interesting thing about this is that and again look. You don't really know how things are going to go during the course of a game. You don't know whether a game game is going to be ruled by kicking. There were ten field goals in this game. Neither team could get a lot going. I know Brian flurries. After the game game was furious with an overturned officials call but I saw the call. It wasn't a horrible overturn. I think Gal River on is being tremendously inconsistent. But I do think there was enough to overturn that call chargers forty five Jaguars ten Maine can we just put. Doug marrone out of his misery. I it's just it's so sad. You know they now. I think the number is gotten to their nine and and twenty since they play in the AFC championship game at At New England a year and a half ago one. And obviously they're in they're in miserable miserable shape You know the highlights of this game are riot because the chargers I had so many big plays the first Austin cler became the first player this year to rush for over one hundred yards in a game while also receiving for more than one hundred yards in a game. Kansas City twenty three New England sixteen. Look Andy Reed's progressive play calling chops. were out there for all. See at one point he had travis Kelsey lying up to take a wildcat snap and he burrowed himself into into the end zone for a rushing touchdown I mean. How bizarre is it to see a tight end a big tight end? You know do that but that was really kind of fun thing and the Patriots. Obviously you're in trouble. We could say the same thing every week. I think it's important to them to develop a few more gadget plays. They are not going to win. Games offensively redoing bread and butter stuff. Tennessee forty two raiders. Twenty one. I've said this just about every week now in the last month but the Tennessee titans are going to give somebody if they get in a very very difficult playoff game early on in January story. And I say that because Ryan Tannehill has been incredibly efficient at quarterback and you know as far ars running back goes. They have several several options. But you know that the most important option in the best option as Derrick Henry who over the last month has been the best of best back in football. You know the raiders unfortunately have hit a dead end mm-hmm and I rely on Mike Mayock to continue the retooling in the off season. It's definitely definitely needed. The Pittsburgh Burg's steelers they beat Arizona. Twenty three seventeen and the steelers. Now if you haven't really figured it out they're six and one one in their last seven games and one of the things that they have done exceedingly. Well is cope without incredibly Lee debilitating injuries. I don't know for as long a period of time as it is. They've had so many guys either injured in out or are they fired. You know gotten rid of Liking Tonio Brown But this is a this is sort of a i. I guess I'd call it a such an opportunistic time for the Pittsburgh steelers. It's really amazing to be winning games. Devlin Hodges as your quarterback. I'm having a good time watching and reading hanging insertive experiencing this team because they are so so fascinating and right now Mike Tomlin is is. My Is My coach of the year. Rams twenty-eight seahawks twelve you know very very unlike the seahawks works to appear anyway Like this was not a game team that they felt was really an urgent game. And that's totally unlike them. Totally like Russell Wilson the encouraging urging thing for free thing for the rams. I thought in having this game on in the background while I wrote on Sunday night is that they know right now that when they have their timing down very very exactly in their passing game that they're gonNa have a very very very good and profitable passing game. I thought that is exactly what they did in this game today. So those are I I. Those are my just quick little thumbnails on all the Games. Hope you guys in the Chen family enjoyed it and I do appreciate you listening to the podcast. Maya do Tennessee's his pesky getting hot at the right time. Big Game v Houston. That's right Tennessee. And Houston two of the next three weeks and the outcome of those games certainly only is going to determine who wins in the. AFC South this year. So thanks for listening everybody tune in for my a regular podcast on Wednesday. I'll be doing some traveling this week. Collecting and interviewer to look forward to sharing those with you in the very near future. 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Brews & The 'Boys: The Dallas Cowboys are undefeated

Blogging the Boys

37:56 min | 11 months ago

Brews & The 'Boys: The Dallas Cowboys are undefeated

"Welcome to another edition of the Bruna Boys podcast brought to you by hsi-wei a media espy nation blogging boys and the Vox media podcast network folks. I'm your host Michael Sizemore. You can follow me on twitter at Mr Sure sizemore and with me as always he is the man of every hour. It's too sweet to be. Sour folks he arn Arn Anderson to my Rick Flair. He is the Walter Matthau to my Jack. lemmon Mr Tom Rile today and we are talking about the Dallas. Cowboys cowboys thirty one to six win over the Miami Dolphins the it was a slow start Tom but once third quarter team around the route was on wasn't it. Yes and I think we need to throw in a little additional describe thir- we're talking about the three and Oh Dallas cowboys here yes yes. We are talking about the Dallas Cowboys. We are talking about the division running away with Dallas Cowboys. It's only been three weeks but we're excited sided. Let us have this let it is. We aren't going to review the game Tom but at the same time we're GONNA also review. You're crunching stats that you posted on blog in the boys so tom in this game. You know I kind of had we've seen with the cowboys. Emoto so far has been to kind of get off to a slow start usually early. It only lasts for a drive but this time the cow the dolphins came in ready to play. They wanted to give the cowboys their best shot and it was a horrible horrible. Shot did not really work yeah the A- The famous this this brought out to me. I have to admire the dolphins because they came out after you know they had been called the absolute worst team in football for like two weeks. Now people people were calling in a middle school football team. They were being held a college team could come in here and beat this team. There are still talented players on that football team professional football football players on that yet and I think that those football players came out showed a lot of pride and and you even have to compliment Taco Charlton often for coming out and he's obviously trying to save his career I still don't know what happened with him. But you know these we have to remember. We're talking about these athletes. The worst one of them is a far better athlete than almost any of US could ever dream of being and could probably stuff was in his his old school locker if he wanted to so exactly and also the Miami Dolphins Yeah they they are probably one of the worst team teams and pro football but they are a pro football team. They got players like Kenyan drake. That are pretty good. They got President Williams devante Parker there are Alan hearns. They had good players layers on this football team. Guys have had success and they were being drug through and even we all of us are guilty of kind of looking here looking down at them in and honestly they weren't really a match for the cowboys and we knew that going in and and this is what happens like we saw. I thought they put up a good showing and forced the cowboys to have to do a just a little bit of a gut. Check their after the first half which wake up yeah which the cowboys did so in in the long run. This might have some unexpected benefits for the cowboys. you know we'll have to see but yeah. I just what what struck Tuck me is the way you would talk about my crunching stats article the way it started out this has been an amazingly consistent team especially when you look at it from the offense which is kind of the big story this year with Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott and now Ezekiel Elliott and well hacking them all but anyway. Oy You know they scored thirty five thirty one and thirty one points in the first three games. Their toll yards have been four ninety four four seventy four four four seventy six. I mean you couldn't be that more consistent if that was your only real goal yeah and since we're on your crunching staff. Let's just go through it. You started us out and you and I think we should finish this here. You you talk about two hundred thirteen yards and two hundred thirty five yards. That's the last two rushing performances formulas year. That's a big one that that is more about that rushing. We're talking about Iraq now. Tummy time that's do because wow the cowboys put up two two hundred they have two one hundred yard rushers both yet as Elliot and Tony Pollard Yeah they didn't have to have the big run from Dak Prescott which is wallows good news bad news things you know he such a weapon you. WanNa using but the really great thing is if you can accomplish that kind of rushing efficiency and saved act back for something like Oh and eight yard quarterback run for a touchdown did you are going out there protecting him and you are giving the production and you're giving the the defense just almost an insoluble problem you know. Dat Can just tear you apart in the air particularly early in the third quarter which we might bring a player but but if he's not getting you Ezekiel Elliot's getting and then oh good is equal out. Wait a minute it. WHO's this Tony Polar guy that just that was just to me the fact that they've both got to one hundred yards. was significant and it really from for for week one to week three. It's we've seen a couple of completely different faces on this offense yeah and you know offensively just going from where this game started started jacket that Prescott admitted. He said that they were being a little bit greedy. He was trying to take some deep shots because he wanted to just go ahead and put this team out of the out of their misery. Serie immediately and if he hits those deep shots and we're talking about long touchdown passes here. The cowboys probably would have had them out of their early. I mean they they would just ran up the score too much for them to be able to to actually make anything of it because the first play for Dak Prescott was a thirty seven yard passed to Amari Cooper. Yeah and you know I think it has been a little bit good just to get that cockiness knocked off uh-huh and remind him that yeah you're a lot better this year but anyone can make a mistake and blow a game and so oh yeah he came out he had a he extended his his completion strict. I think twenty before he had an incompletion at you know then they had the little lull there through the middle of the first quarter to the beginning of the third but then you know then they got on-track and so that's the kind of resiliency you have to see it is good to kind of get that counter poor or performance knocked out against the my. AB- job Miami Dolphins team that is a little bit short on ammunition this year yeah and you know we're. GonNa spend this. We're going to spend this review of this. Dolphins at cowboys game talking a lot. What about you know. Perception and context in everything is key because when you look at how this game actually went it's not it's not close at all. It's not it's not even like this was ever really in doubt and we there was a lot of complaining about defense which will get to in the second half but you know the cowboys didn't stall on their first drive. They get down there and kick a field goal so they put up points on their second that can drive. They get a touchdown yep then they go into the second quarter and that's where you start to see these these. That's where Dak takes a couple of you. No couple of choice our chances there you know he even said the interception that he threw at the beginning of the second quarter was he had all the time in the world when he was just a little greedy trying to find Randall Cobb. I think that the cowboys in this game did Miss Michael Gallup to begin with because I think that the some some of the route running wasn't as crisp and some of the guys were just not getting his openness freely as they were expecting to yeah but the name goes on and it was never. It didn't seem like he was ever in doubt yeah. I you know I was feeling a little bit. What for I was really worried about was boy is GONNA look bad if they go into halftime trailing the dolphins no matter how it ends up because I'm like you. I've felt they would have come back you know but it was kind aval relief when Jalen Smith managed to knock the ball loose on a play that he actually admits that back along much overrun yeah he not he gets the fumble he he knocks out the he forces a fumble on Kenyan drake while the the dolphins were facing a I in seven at the Dallas seven so if they score they ended up taking a lead with thirty one seconds left. If they score they ended up taking that lead on the cowboys so him knocking that out was very and it was recovered by a demarcus lawrence which I kept thinking right then when demarcus Lawrence recovered that fumble I was kind of like okay so the cowboy so demarcus Lawrence can recover a fumble right here but the cowboys can't recover easy ones like the ones that are way more like I didn't even see the ball get poked out at first you know so it was it was very quick. It's just you and he just on it yeah. You're kinda going how the players were reacting that. You knew something had happened. Actually the Miami got it yeah because you kind of saw drake. Come spinning around around. You can tell obviously that he was not carrying the football anymore but yeah it. It was just an interesting game and then you know you're kind of talking about. We're are at the halftime. Do you remember how many times used to see the cowboys. Go in and come out of halftime and you're going like where we're the adjustments oh my a big so conservative adjustments was not in the vocabulary of Scotland and and to an extent stint Jason Garrett for so many many years. We do what we do this is hey. Why don't you do something to counter what they're doing? It could be a it would be fascinating study to try and figure what really has changed the dynamic in the coaching room since last last year and what really led them to keep Lenihan around as long as they did but that's a lot of speculation about stuff. That's probably never really going to come come out. We just need to rejoice in what we've got now because as I think R. J. pointed out one of his articles. We have a quarterback this. This year is perfect in the third quarter and we're not just talking. He's got a perfect passer rating. He has completed every pass asks. He's attempted in the third quarter the season yeah and I want to like we're GonNa do this right before we go to our break. We're going to talk about this right now. As the cowboys come out a half like you said Tom and you alluded to hear a Dak Prescott. If not for a penalty on Connor Williams a holding penalty Randall Cobb got a seventy four yard pass to open up there was a Tony Pollard one yard run and then boom Dak Prescott just opens up the floodgates going deep left Randall Cobb for seventy four yards when they get they end up getting that penalty Connor Williams. They ended up moving backwards so on second nine DAX hits Devon Smith for thirty thirty three then he hits Randall Cobb again for twenty. Sorry I'll make up you know that other that other yards or so later Randall. I'm sorry about that and then then then there's Zeki deep again to Amari cooper nine hundred yards touchdown that happened so quick quarter it was it was it's like Oh penalty wiping out who cares I guarantee you. They went into the locker room at half and on both sides of the ball they just said let's go out there. Let's that's kick their ass and let's be done with this like. Let's let's stop playing around and then the next drive. The cowboys have very very similar a little bit longer of a drive it ends where the Dak Prescott touchdown run and then you just knew right then and there as the cowboys are up twenty four to six. It's it was already over but now well you guys are just you have no shot here. You can't compete with this firepower and that's that's the thing that the cowboys have the weapons they're missing their their wide receiver to in Michael Gallup as you said and while they didn't get a big day from Devon Smith Randall Cobb although cobbs obviously a lot bigger without that holding call so you know he's had a lot of yard wiped out by penalties. which is something else we need to talk about but Smith and COBB were still effective end? You were getting things like Jason. WITTEN getting a thirty three yard past reception on third twenty. You know just like fake true up. I'm telling you he is. He is drawing out his inner. Nature Boy Ric flair Blair he will never retire yeah yeah and he just keeps going yeah. There were a lot of people you know. My stance would win and came back back was kind of like well with a year off. He's probably going to be in pretty good shape and I think there are times that he'll be really useful. You know I thought he was going to be good in the red zone own and there would be times when he would be the good outlet pass and be a knife reliable way for data guy trouble but he's just showing a little bit more this sure I think he definitely has more juice. Taking a year off helped him. I think I think he got he missed the game. You can tell by the way he plays yeah. He's having fun out. I wouldn't be surprised when this season is over. If we're all sitting here thinking about how Jason Witten kind of turn back the clock a little bit on his career had fantastic year but you know you mentioned Dak Prescott here before we go to break and just perfect. He has been in the third quarter in this third quarter yesterday. Dak Prescott was eleven for eleven and two touchdowns one with his legs and one in the air to mark cooper for nineteen nineteen yards. I mean can you really you can't ask for any better than that. Though the perfect I is this. Is something and you know you almost hesitate to say it. When Dak Prescott is on he is as good as any quarterback in the league grind now only the only time he's not as good as anybody in the League is when he falls into a few old habits like he did in the first half yeah well. We're GONNA take a quick break on the Bruce of the boys podcast. We'll be right back talking about the cowboys thirty one to six win over the Miami Dolphins. This episode is brought to you by COX WE CONTOUR TV from Cox. You can find all your favorites favorites all in one place it. Does it have the youtube you. Bet El what about that nap flicker thing Netflix too and although Superhero movies contour it has all the latest titles on demand. My grandkids love that Big Green Guy Dog. I prefer the one with the hammer myself. Okay I think we're we're done here now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on CONTOUR TV from Cox. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what I mean is this all already unspoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants we warren middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then unlike mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches were now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken bacon subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP yeah and we are back on the bruise on the boys podcast we're talking about the cowboys boys here thirty one to six victory over the Miami Dolphins. There are some folks out there. You Know Tom. Let's get into the cowboys just to finish rush up the game you know Tony. Pollard has a sixteen yard touchdown. The cowboys ended up winning thirty one to six Brett. Maher does miss a fifty five yard field goal but it's not that big of a deal just because because of how the cowboys had already been dominant you would hope that he would make something like that but oh well you know most. I think what was more hurtful for the you you know. Offense was some of the penalties that they had that were just kind of like playing a little bit playing a little bit undisciplined but the defense. I wanted to talk about the defense real quick and spend time on at Tom. Because I think that there's a much ado about nothing here with the defense because I really want to put something into perspective for folks out out there that are talking about well. The dolphins got the most yards ever this season against the cowboys and they just they were just dominating like it. It just looked easy for really really really not two hundred eighty. Three yards of total offense is dot a good performance. No no if you look at a stat line guys if you look at the numbers and you look at the way the game went after the after the second quarter and actually midway into the second quarter day were toast. They will shut down. The cowboys got got their feet under them. They shut it down and there's a couple of defensive statistics. I didn't even get to because the the doing the article just gets long and just sometimes stuff falls through the cracks. I didn't even notice the fact that the cowboys were only allowed three out of fifteen third down conversions yet which is exactly on they are exactly at twenty percent for the season on allowing third doubts Yep. That's outstanding in band is something the defense is doing very well. They don't give up a you know. Some decent plays on first and second down. They're probably going to get you off the field yet and let's talk about you know the lack what we've been hearing the lack of pass rush okay well. We saw the prelude freeload yesterday against the Miami Dolphins because Robert Quinn. I watched a watched a lot of this game and I can tell you almost on every single snap app they were either doubling demarcus Lawrence and chipping Robert Quinn or chipping demarcus Lawrence in doubling Robert Quinn because those guys were creating pressure. They had eleven quarterback quarterback hits. They only had three against Washington. They only had six against New York giants. They had three sacks against Miami. They also had two tackles for loss the they forced a fumble and like you said twenty percent on third down the only time that we're better this year on third down. This game against Miami was the first game against the New York giants eighteen percent zero percent red zone. Miami was over three in the red zone at Washington was one hundred percent in the red zone and New York was fifty percent. They allowed seventeen points in the first game twenty one points against Washington six points here. They are one of the top scoring defenses and for all of those folks that are out there kind of worried about how much yards they give up really okay. They're not they give up an average Tom of in this game against Miami they gave up an average twenty five yards per jive and it's this. Is there still some problems you know they need. We get some takeaways but you're talking about the fact that you know they. They had a Quin came in and got the Sax Rolling demarcus Lawrence got himself a sack back finally to end the game in between you see what's going to result from having quinten lawrence out there which was Malea Collins and Kerry Hyder mid at the quarterback quarterback of a got their pash rush from somewhere else yeah. Yes Oh this is what also to put some perspective on this as that. Let's not not forget that Byron Jones is coming off of an off season. Surgery demarcus Lawrence is coming off of an off season surgery tyrone Crawford. It's dealing with the hip thing you you know you're wrong. Quinn Robert Quinn has hand issue but he seems to be he was more worried. Yesterday Tom. About conditioning is what he said. Yeah and he was fine yeah. He did very well. don't get. Antoine Woods was out with an injury yeah. It's it's so there's and that was a key thing that I'm going to be you know. I talk about in another article later this week. Is that we you know. We thought this team had depth. I think we saw the yeah they've got a little depth here. Because with with two of their starters on the defensive line out route okay they did alright with the their wide receiver to out and a guy who by helped fill in and save on Austin. WHO's mainly a special teams also out well okay? It turned out they were fine. They still had a good day passing not a great day because as it turns out all of a sudden they've got real offensive balance in its effective offensive balance. A lot of teams treat that balances you know we're going to be roughly fifty fifty run in past well. You're runs are getting like three point one yards a carry. They're not really helping you. In the game. Dallas Dallas got fifteen first first downs running the ball that is effective running that is more than effective that has dominant that is dominating on. I that's dominating that and that's exactly what they've done this season and and you know we have to talk about the folks that are kind of out there trying to who oh well. It's the dolphins dude. Oh well. It's the it's the giants it's. The Washington redskins anytime that occurs. It makes me laugh because the cowboys are a reason these teams bad yeah. They're part of the reason. These teams are bed and you look at the Patriots. You know they haven't really faced any any competition yet these teams. Nobody knows what these teams are going to be. You know the Eagles as much as we're going to have a laugh at them at the end of this show save with at one into don't hang your heads. Eagles fans because the cowboys are three and five last year and came back and won the division at ten and six so so anything can happen if you can stay healthy if you can get going the packers who are surging at three you know what happens when they run into into a really fierce fierce defensive line that could put pressure on Aaron Rodgers again. That's it's going to be an issue so so when you look at this league and you just look at how everything's kind of falling into place and we talk about this. We try to do this every week. You guys it as much as we wring. Our hands is about the defense. It's it's a process for them but they are going to be better and it's not like they're even bad to begin with their owning allowing less than fifteen points per game on average allowing thirty three yards per drive in yeah. They're given up. They've given up explosive plays four in the first game two in the second three in this game but none went for touchdowns nine yeah yeah at at you know the fake because you have to look as as the complete thing and I think this year the defense is not going to have to carry the cowboys in many games because the offense is going to be doing the heaviest heaviest lifting is going to be the office. GonNa go down. Go out move the ball score. Some points and the defense's job is going to be stopped me of the team which which you know given the third down percentage of what they're doing in the red zone. I think they're more than capable of that. If the SAX in the takeaway start coming along they'll they'll all of a sudden you may be dominant on both sides of the ball yeah and you know there was a lot of talk about and I've seen it for Marcus Mosier on twitter Jalen. Smith's just not the Guy Hi that he was last year or whatever just that kind of stuff is bullshit because listen Jalen Smith had ten tackles yesterday and worst forced fumble who led the team in tackles. Come come on because he misses one tackle yet. Well you know what his forced fumble like. We mentioned turned the tide of the game turned the momentum. You knew coming out at halftime the cowboys just GonNa put the pedal to the metal and that's exactly what they did. And did you see those play. It was was a Jalen Smith didn't show up on the stat sheet but this was out on twitter they showed a thing where they brought Jalen Smith up and he rushed from. I don't know if it was the the one of the three position but he rushed from the defensive tackle position. He came up. I think he's dropped. Roy Quick put his hand on the ground around came in from there yeah and it was like Oh. There's a wrinkle for you if you if you want to look at something and get a little bit excited about what the defense can do. Hey your rookie tristen. Hill had to quarterback hits yesterday. Yeah you know that's something to build on dorrance. Armstrong to there were tackled for losses there in the giants game. They didn't have a single tackle for loss. Oh and Joe Jackson yet a pass by the down and so did Christian Covington. All of a sudden you look everyone of the defensive linemen that went in made a contribution exactly you know an an even Taco Charlton bless his heart on the other side. I was so kind enough to give him a nice little sack there. I don't care what Beck says. I know that was planned to history when they said Huckabee doorway and he said completion percentage. That's that was just savage. I loved it. I just let it completely singed. Come on baby. I try to try to have no uh-huh incomplete passes this this game what the cowboys have done like if we're gonNA talk about their quality of opponent well. What else did you want him to do. Did you want I mean they went out there and they dominated for three weeks in a row. We're not going to dominate every single one of their opponents but if they can rush like they've been rushing on offense which which we know they're capable of doing they can do that to just about anybody you look around the league and you look at the Seahawks and the saints game yesterday. Both of those teams are beatable. You look at everything is in front of the cowboys they have. They have a tough schedule coming up in. This is one of the more relaxed parts of the schedule if it's this part of the schedule is your easiest part of the schedule. Don't you want to start three now. Yeah and here's the thing I did it just to give a sneak preview of that article. I mentioned Taylor. The cowboys have the second highest points differential positive points differential imber league they got the highest in in the NFC. The highest points differential in the League is the New England Patriots. You're going like well awhile but I still practice. They're just great yeah. Okay Dallas's opponents that they've played as we're recording this because they haven't done. We haven't seen what Washington is going to do. Against the bears yet Gallup up cowboys opponents are now seven one because it turns out Daniel Jones might have been a really smart pick by the New York giants. I'm so sorry for shitting on you Daniel Johns and yes and but New England oh they had a much tougher. We'll wait a minute their opponents or combined O and nine yeah they have they have more patsies on their scheduled to start the cowboys do just by judging by how they play everybody else yeah well. The only time the New England patriots lost their division in the Tom Brady era was Tom. Brady was hurt. Yeah so yeah you know and and let's finish up by talking talking about that favorite favorite team over in the city of the brotherly show. Il Del Fia you who was a great song by Bruce Springsteen but I don't I still don't like the city so Philadelphia Eagles they go in there. Point differential by the way is there being out scored seventy eight to seventy six so there you go. There's that the eagles are struggling a little bit they are big they struggled and and lost last week to the Atlanta Falcons and then this week they struggle again and they lose to the Detroit lions our friends over at bleeding green renomination so smartly wrote an article prior to the game that was asking if the lions coach was the worst coach in the NFL. Well Yeah how Matt Patricia they just were dumped all over him and then he goes out and gets a win in a game where statistically the Angle Eagles had the advantage up down the line yeah but yeah it's like going into the season. Many people felt it was a two team race in the NFC east between the cowboys and the Eagles a lot of people were picking the eagles particularly on the east coast and in Philadelphia because they felt that the eagles had a better quarterback a better and deeper roster in a better coaching staff as we stand now. If you take an objective look at the results of the first three games it looks like none of those three or true no no because the offensive line in the in this came for the eagles wow now you're thinking about the play on twitter right yeah and it's the play where you know he is. Carson Wentz. I get is holding onto the ball for quite some time but at the same time the offensive line just quit blocking and just allow him. I'm as they watch their quarterback. Get sacked what happens if they take Carson Wentz down at a bad angle and he just twists his knee wrong and he's out for the season and that just was honestly that was pathetic to put we all know we all know he's such adorable. Oh wait a minute yeah he. He's like he's fragile. He has had that's his history and that was just that is one where I don't know if you've ever get a straight answer but drew. It'll what it just happened because when you watch it the offensive line they had everything blocked windows back there. No there was nobody really rushing and they all just stood up straight and stopped moving. I at first I thought I was watching the two thousand Sixteen Kansas Jayhawks going on here. They just fall out of the ground and just let the guy get hurt. I mean that to me. It was pathetic because I mean I remember back in the days of flows L. Atoms. If if somebody took a little bit of liberty with Tony Romo Flow Zell was throwing fists yeah you know and that I like that and I think the cowboys offensive line here. They wouldn't sit there and watch their quarterback had hit like that. He needs to get rid of the football. Yes he does but the thing is look to me like they. All believed the play had ended yeah yeah. I can't figure out what happened especially because it was all five of them. It was just an and you know and that's why I say okay. You hate to see coach. You hate coaching staff needs to get in and say you know this can never happen again or people start losing job. I I mean I would have went on a profanity laced tirade. If I was the offensive it's of line coach. What is that I mean it just was I. I don't know if the Eagles I still think that the eagles have talent to combat this and and and they could come back possibly I think it's way too early to be counting anybody out except for the dolphins but this the the eagles cannot have effort like that they cannot have games like that back in that's. That's been especially bad because you lose to another. NFC team the lions and you and you Kinda give and now they have you know they have a they have have that win over you in the NFC so I don't know it was just an awful awful. Awful events are coming off of another offer performance a week before yet. Another a conference loss which is yeah. They're ms the thing that is too bad performances row and it's that to me more than the the individual performances. It's that consistency or inconsistency. If you WANNA put it that's where I think they make a back back but this team has it they see it certainly have more flaws than I think a lot of people willing to admit yes they might have more flaws but unlike leading green nation. You won't see us go on in right article. After article about how our opponents knits struggles we don't care we worry about what's in our lanes but now I may have I might have written something that's coming up about the NFC east race and that Bay of been talking a little bit about them but yeah but you tongue-in-cheek and it's cute and I love it so it's totally fine and plus you. You have me back in you out well. I don't know how far that goes because you're the beef house this is. This is true like not very good beef but there's a lot of it. Well you know last week. We had just quickly. We had mentioned how the cowboys offense was doing quite well pretty. Well Yeah exactly exactly well. The passing offense last week was top five and they remain in the top five at fourth and then we had mentioned held L. D. rushing offense was six well now their third so we'll just see how things move very very quickly in the national football league if they're one of the top scoring offense as to which is what's important Yup. The cowboys are doing things right. They do have a huge big time match up against New Orleans coming up this week. It's going to be a lot tougher. I think that folks realize because Teddy Bridgewater is not a slouch he he's not a slouched this could well be the best defense. They've they faced probably likely so this is. We're GONNA find out a little bit more about what they've got yeah. This is definitely the best defense they they they. Will they have faced. I should say as the first first game that they've faced where we didn't have. This one penciled in a likely win for months now now exactly well. That's all we really have for you today. The cowboys get a big win. Thirty one to six people are putting crying about a blowout. There's no crying union blowouts okay. There's no there's nothing you should just be happy. Enjoy your Monday and stop. Stop it eat some cereal or cookies or whatever you need. Get get on the pre. Get in the program. Get on track with the Dallas cowboys because it could be worse folks. You could be Philadelphia Eagles Fan right now. That's all we we got for today. You can follow him at Tom. Tom Row bTV on twitter. Follow me ask Mister sizemore follow us at blogging boys and at Bruges and the boys on twitter and stay tuned to the boys for Everything Dallas Cowboys. Tom Riles got some great stuff coming up and the wonderful incredible one cool customer has a trolling the nation that will just put you in stitches so must read must read take care of cowboys nation. We will talk to you about a week. Hopefully we're talking about another cowboys. 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RTFP #910:  Week 5 Takeaways

Ross Tucker Football Podcast

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RTFP #910: Week 5 Takeaways

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And you might be able to be this week's phrase that pays winner. Let's roll Bri. Thanks show. All right week, five. With the exception of tonight's game in the books, any thoughts? Any takeaways from yesterday's games. A lot a lot. Yeah. So this is kind of weird Bri every one o'clock game the home team won, and I was sitting there thinking, man. It's not going well for me with some my picks not going well with some of my even money bets. You just gotta go with the home team home teams where it's at when in doubt home team, all those things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then the four o'clock games, every away team won Arizona. The Rams the Vikings and I'm gonna include the chargers. The charter, your tank lead. The only away team are home team that won in the four o'clock, but there were definitely more raiders fans there than chargers. So I'll say every away team won the four o'clock. So nothing that you can totally take away from their. The other things that jumped out to me, I would say big day for the rookie quarterback's Bri really big day. All four rookie quarterbacks got the victory, Josh Allen in buffalo, Baker Mayfield in Cleveland, Sam darnold with the. The jets. And then of course, Josh Rosen and the Arizona Cardinals get off the Schneide. I think they were the last winless team, right? Which means that that one lions team in last year's Browns can crack open their four day old. Piss warm Zima, and celebrate that nobody else will be joining them among the Owen sixteen this year. Although since there's two of them kind of loses its luster since both the lions and Browns of both done it and is it crazy by the way that both those franchises have been? You know, historically down neither one's been with Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. And they're also the ones that have gone Owen sixteen. Yeah, I guess the only other thing, Brian, I'm gonna write about it this week. It was another Sunday were kicking was gigantic, Graham Gano good for him nails a sixty, three yarder that saves Ron Rivera and north Turner when they really should have lost that game. And there should have been a tremendous amount of criticism for those two guys with how they handled the play clock in clock management. Late net game a tremendous amount of criticism, but Graham Gano saved them. Meanwhile, then you have that Packers lions game where Mason Crosby MRs five kicks five kicks think four field goals and extra point. And that could have been the difference in the game. I also think there might have ended up being more, but at one point, there were five missed extra points, five of them. And that was just like. In the late games, I think after was at the Rams kicker that miss one, maybe I don't know, but I didn't even rate absolutely brutal speaking of brutal. I still have not evidently one this podcast, one sports net dot com challenge. So this week. Okay, Adam Corolla shack, Danielle underdog sports, all pick all five games, right? I guess this was for last week, but whatever. And I'm not. I feel like I'm letting you guys down. Check it out a podcast, one sports net dot com. And remember if I win, I get five hundred dollars to give a one hundred dollars to five of you, which is pretty cool, but you have to have already gone to bed online dot AG and used your code podcast one, so bet online dot AG. Use the code podcast. One get a fifty percent sign up bonus when you do that. Fifty percent bed online at AG and do because I'm gonna win one of these weeks and then five of us going to get an extra podcast. One is the code at bed online dot AG. All right. Let's get into each of these games individually starting with the Tennessee titans in the Buffalo Bills. Stephen Housego forty six yard field goal as time expired helps the titans beat the bills, thirteen to twelve all the way round. I'm sorry, thirteen. Twelve bills over the titans, right? And this is kind of how I think the bills are going to have to win games Bri. They're not a very talented team. They are in absolute rebuilding mode every win. I think they get is a valuable one, but I think it's a good sign that you know in Josh Allen starts there too into, you know, they lost the chargers, lost the Packers. No shame in that. But they've won a couple of games and he's not playing great yet I'll tell you what he is. He's tough and he's a really good runner. I mean that running touchdown, he had he is a very good athlete, very good runner. So that was one thing that jumped out to me. About Josh Allen. I think that this is kind of the bills formula right now. They gotta find a way to play really good defense. And I think that they can do that so play really good defense possess the ball on the ground. The Shawn McCoy, Chris ivory, both got a bunch of touches a bunch of Carey's. I think that's important. And then you know, when it late when ugly and they're lucky, Mario and titans had a bunch of turnovers, Nick Williams had a killer drop that should have been touchdown for the titans and the bills were able to gut out or thirteen twelve win good for them. Let's go buffalo. Let's go Carolina. As you said earlier, Graham Gano connects on a career long sixty three yard. Field goal is time expires to beat the New York Giants. Thirty three thirty one. And really as I mentioned earlier, saved, Ron Veira and north Turner, how they ran the ball on. Third and one late net game is beyond me. It took like eighteen seconds to get between that and then the spike the ball. You cannot run the ball in that situation without time out. And really, I'm surprised that. The replay folks did not buzz down to challenge that spot. 'cause I'm not convinced that Christian McCaffrey even got the first down on that play at all. Not at all. In fact, I was watching in the eagles press box and I thought that Cam Newton, spike the ball on fourth down, I thought he spoke the ball on fourth and one instead, I guess they'd give it to them. And then Graham Gano helps sixty three yarder while really, really impressive. This game was bizarre because it felt like the Panthers were in control, felt like he li- had some bad plays that the Panthers should run away with it, but then they kept making their own mistakes and costing themselves and keeping the giants in it. And Odell Beckham junior had a big day even had touchdown, pass to saquon Barkley and. They had the ally threw the ball to bark the out of the backfield for the go ahead touchdown, which was gigantic for them, although saquon got hurt, we'll hear what Dr David Chow has to say on the medical minute for sure, but it wasn't enough. Curtis Samuel had how about courtesy, aimless touchdown, incredible, incredible effort by Curtis Samuel. I thought that was really, really impressive by him and the mistake by auto Beckham junior, when he went back to return the pun that kinda got the giants in the whole of that, even though he had a good day that still came back to haunt him. That was a really, really bad mistake by him. Cincinnati. Bengals scored twenty seven straight points to beat the Miami Dolphins, twenty seven to seventeen and don't look now with the Bengals are four in one bang goals and what's crazy about it too Bry. I think twenty four point of those points were in the fourth quarter, and I think two of them were defensive touchdowns that ended up being the difference in the game early in the game. I'm just looking at Miami's explosive speed Miami's up seventeen nothing at halftime. You should really never lose that game. And the only way you do is when you allow to happen, what happened in the second half then with the turnovers from tannehill now he was under duress, and there's no question about that, but still man, you cannot have those kind of fumbles two defensive touchdowns brutal. I think part of what needs to be said here, though, in fairness, the doll. Fans of lost Josh Sitton and Daniel Kilgore, and they were overwhelmed at times by the Bengals offensive line Bank defensive line overwhelm end. Joe mixing first game back from that surgery had a big day also. In overtime, Browns rookie Greg. Joseph hit a thirty seven yard field goal. Cleveland beats the Baltimore Ravens twelve to nine Cleveland's first AFC north winds since two thousand fifteen. And that was the most Cleveland Browns game winning field goal I've ever seen. First of all, the NFL is very fortunate that it wasn't another tied. And if we had somebody overtime game, so many close calls, we've already had a bunch of ties, but so many close calls where we could have had even more ties. It didn't happen, but that kick looked like it was tipped. Looked like it was shanked. I can't believe that went in while it is a heart attack a week being Browns fan if you are. And I think a lot of times Bri games like that. You like all both offenses stink, blah, blah, blah. I actually thought it was really good defense by both teams, and I'm not saying either team played great offensively, but it was really good defense. Denzel ward got another interception in his blocked field goal ended up being huge, huge play in the game. As we're some of those drops by Michael Crabtree, not having Alex Collins in the second half, this is a loss or the loss that I feel like we'll look back on and say, man, the ravens. That's the one couldn't afford to lose that Browns game. And they did because they had it. I mean, they, they had their opportunities in this game, but you get blocked field goals drops Taylor's games in the NFL. Two touchdown passes for Matthew Stafford and another two from Garrett blunt running helped the lines beat the Packers thirty one twenty three. And as you mentioned Mason Crosby five missed kicks in the game right out also say Aaron Rodgers. Ball security was really bad in this game. You know, he had not one, but two careless fumbles which is not really like him and really was a major factor in them losing, which is why you know Rogers can't really point the finger at Crosby when Rogers going to have to really poor fumbles like he did. I mean, the Packers had twice as many total yards as did the lines twice as many, but those turnovers make a huge difference. Devante Adams was a big part of those yards. And I thought the only thing that started, you know, to me was Kenny golladay. I told you guys before that kid is the truth. Kid can play. Big day for the Kansas City. Chiefs defense forced five fumbles to beat the Jaguars thirty two fourteen. So many turnovers Bortles had a pick six from Chris Jones. How about Chris Jones? At three hundred, whatever twenty five pounds making that move after he got me the guy probably I gotta look it up. He probably played running back in high school. That's the kind of athletes. These guys are Bortles ended up with five turnovers, the interception off the helmet which wasn't real good, either. Defensively for the Jags not bad, but not as good as he needed to be Travis Kelsey at a big game. But really the the story of the game was the Jags moving the ball, but turnovers and getting bogged down in the red zone. Now they lose Corey grant to Eliza Franck I will hear what you know. Dr Chow has to say about that, but that's, that's a big loss for them must be losses. Kind of a bizarre game for the chiefs have two guys ojected. I think deformed who had a good game by the way, had he got he jetted for. Two different unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and Chris Jones. I guess they had video of him like trying to give somebody a deadly. Which I do a dead leg to somebody in a long time. Funny. Jets running back is crow l. fifteen carries for franchise record. Two hundred thousand nine rushing yards including a seventy seven yard touchdown. Run jets over the Broncos thirty four sixteen yeah. I haven't looked at my fantasy team yet. Bri I need to. I usually look at it when I'm doing the fantasy feast. I look at see how my team's doing pretty pretty unbelievable that I, this is the second time that I had. Isaiah Crowell in my flex position and while am I glad I did. I have to be winning unless yeah, I'm up by thirty two points. I know you all care so much that I wanted to check it while we're on here. Oh, man. I got nothing from Brandin cooks, nothing from Randy cokes after that concussion. But urged is my tight end Crowell Kenyan Drake, gimme a pretty good day. David Johnson gamy a pretty good day. So yeah, baby I am rolling again, the undefeated train rolls on. I think speaking by the way of undefeated I'm telling you these casper mattresses are undefeated. You can be sure of your purchase with Casper's one hundred night risk-free sleep on it trial. This is the key in my mind because the only concern I can ever imagine anybody having with buying a mattress at casper dot com. Slash Tucker and using Tucker at checkout is well, I wanna try. It I okay. So then go for it one hundred nights, one hundred nights. Absolutely. Awesome. I can't tell you. I mean, you know, now that have casper this company must be killing it because most people I know I feel like have casper mattresses and you guys can get fifty dollars towards select mattresses by visiting casper dot com. Slash Tucker and using Tucker at checkout terms and conditions apply. Of course, casper dot com. Slash Tucker. They cut out the middleman so they can give you a great product at a great price. Was there a game that was supposed to be breaking down at some point here? Yes, see Broncos in the jets in the big Isaiah Crowell day. Oh yes. There you go. I kinda got sidetracked a little bit there. Big play jets crow l. has shown a lot of juice and played very well. And even though Sam darnold numbers might not have reflected it statistically Bri. I thought he had a great game. I mean, he his won both of his touchdown throws to Robbie intercessor. Nice. But the one was like a perfect throw. That was an amazing throw, which is why you gotta be careful because as we've talked about it before, stats can be deceiving. That was very much a winning performance by Sam darnold with some of those big time throws he made. James, Connor for the Steelers rushed for one hundred ten yards in two touchdowns. Yes, at four catches for seventy five yards in the Steelers forty one seventeen win over the falcons and Ross may ask you this one trivia time. He joined one hall of Famer. One other hall of Famer with the only players with multiple games with at least one hundred rushing yards. Fifty receiving yards and two rushing touchdowns in their team's first five games of the season. You know who that is? No, Jim Brown. Wow, James Connor. And Jim Brown are in rarefied air? Yes. Wow, good for him. And, yeah, I mean, he hasn't really been the problem. He's not lady on bell, but he that hasn't really been the problem. Their defense has been the problem. They had a lot. I mean, that blocked punt they had was huge and TJ what I think the what brothers are like tied for the lead in sacks in the NFL, Matt Ryan had a rough day man. He was battered around by the Steelers defense, I think clearly their best performance of the season. Antonio Brown didn't really get much in the first half, but the second half, he got his numbers that I know are so important to him and they were able to overcome. I mean, Ben had one of the worst. I n TS in the end zone you'll ever see and dealer still won by twenty four which would be caused for concern for sure. Sure. If I were the Atlanta Falcons. Stays the raiders had the home field advantage, but it didn't help them on the field chargers easily defeat Oakland, twenty six to ten. I don't really have that much to say really about this game. I mean, rivers in the offense was on, we're on fire for the chargers against a very slow raiders defense. Amari Cooper did nothing Derek Carr through a bad interception. Bruce Irvin did a really, really unwise thing not the first time he's done, something like that, and the chargers rolled over a bad raiders team. In a rematch of last season's NFC championship game. Kirk cousins threw for three hundred and one yards and a touchdown, and the Vikings speak the eagles twenty three twenty one. So that reminds me bribe. Before we get into the game. 'cause I gotta give the press box food rundown. I will say this by the way, make sure you check out my videos, Twitter, Instagram at Ross, Tucker, NFL. 'cause I, I do videos of the press box food. I was impressed by Fordham's press box. I did the Fordham Georgetown game on stadium and Facebook, Saturday, and I was impressed by the Fordham press box food. I really was. They had like lemonade. They had a couple of different salads of fruit salad. They had all kinds of different roles Bri and then cold cuts and cheese. So you could pick your role and I picked a pretzel get you love pretzel roll. Do you like pretzels oven, get choice? I feel like every role should be a pretzel roll, so delicious than they had these. Terrific. Terrific, big, soft cookies. It was. It was. It was maybe is impressive as. Any patriot league your Ivy league performance? I've ever been around from a press box food standpoint. So kudos to the folks at Fordham before I get too, by the way, the eagles I wanted to make a point. My wife ordered calamari Saturday night. We were in New York City after the Fordham game, and I tried it again for like ten time because so often Bri when you're with a group of people and you're getting appetizers, somebody always gets calamari. Let's get to Calamar. Let's get to Calamar Komori. Right. I'm sorry. It's not good. Do you like Cal Amari? I do. I don't like it fried. I know I know what you're going to say. It kind of tastes like a rubber band, but I like it. It tastes like a fried rubber band. So first of all, I don't really like fried stuff that much in general. I don't like that crispy breading. A lot of times that's, but to have the crispy breading around rubber bands, I just don't get it. I maybe I, I may. I think I would like it a little bit more if I had it grilled, but definitely fried calamari is garbage. I don't like it. You don't like fried either. Now I'll stay away from the fried stuff, but I do like it. Grilled or however they cook it, but now eight or something like that. Yeah. So you so you get probably good calamari down here in Louisiana. I can see that not a calamari fan. As for the eagles press box food, very salad. As usual. They had a fruit salad. They had a regular salad. They had all kinds of hoagies, and then they had a roast beef. So you can make yourself a hot roast beef sandwich, potatoes, beans, pulled pork shoulder. Is there like what's ever seen pulled pork shoulder, just pulled pork different part of the pig? I guess. I don't know. I mean, where does the pulled pork only come from? I don't know. I don't know, but. At any rate. It was good. I got a whole plate. I try to stay away from the carbs as much as I can. The bread, not a big bread guy. You know, like if I have to like I'll get a pretzel roller whatever, but I'd rather just get the meat and the beans that'll hold plate full o' the pulled pork shoulder and baked beans. Then I went back and I got a plate full of salad with Osama vinaigrette took one of the hoagies and pulled the, the ham and Turkey out of it. Put it on top of my salad is like a chef salad. I'm pretty sure I invented that Brian has ever done that before. -gratulations Ross? Yeah, it was. It was big time, so I'll give it eagles a another very salad grade there. I, I'll I'll go a minus because the food was really good. They always have the diet Snapple bottles which I like because I need caffeine, but I don't need to calories and the sugar. I don't need to soda carbonation. They still have coke zero. There. Or to, though so eagles have a lot of, oh, and then a half time they had a hot dogs and chicken fingers. So I had to, I had to chicken fingers at halftime. Can they feel pretzels? You have. Oh, I'm glad you said that Brian because I got there at eleven. Because I, you know, my my pre-game show starts at one. I got there at eleven. And then we're going to put the food out to like one thirty, but I had anything since breakfast, eight o'clock. So went in the back room and they talked with my food service ladies. They're awesome, and I just said, ladies, what? What can we do here? Because they hadn't even put the chips to the soft pretzels out says, you can take as many self pretzels you want. So as I say, I don't like carbs. I had. I tried say cards. I to Philly soft pretzels for lunch. That's what I had. I mean, breakfast, I had breakfast in New York City. I had like oatmeal and a banana, but then for lunch, I was starving. My only option was the Philly pretzel. So I had to pretzels on. Terrific spicy, mustard love it. They're soft pretzels. They're, they're just so tender, buttery scrumptious, nece and then for dinner I had what I told you I had. So yeah, it was. It was a good day. Really good day, not for the eagles or. Or their fans, you know. They are making mistakes all over the field. I mean, when Dell small would would have a drop, you know, lane Johnson gets beat inside. It leads to a defensive, tuck touchdown for bell. Joseph and really the eagles defense couldn't really slow down the Vikings. The Vikings had to settle for a bunch of field goals and Dan Bailey. Speaking of kicker importance, Dan Bailey missed a couple of field goals and other day where we're huge kick, you're kicking importance. So that's the deal. I mean, I was so impressed by the way as well. Oh, he had the Ajayi fumble was just brutal. That's the thing too for the eagles is everybody always wants to point to one guy and make that one guy sort of the the scapegoat, but that's just not. That's just not realistic. It's different guys. I'd suggest I fumble. It's small would drop its. Wins holding onto the ball, and there was some good things when he held on the ball and some bad things. It's a terrible roughing. The passer penalty on like, oh, Bennett really disgraceful call by Walt Coleman. Second week in a row walk. Kalman's been terrible, and it is something about that. He and his crew been terrible, two weeks in a row that's not acceptable. Last thing I'd say is in the game, Doug Peterson chose to punt to taking a fifty eight yard field goal. And conversely, Dan Bailey for the Vikings crushed his fifty two yarder. And that ended up really being the difference in the game. A one more I think I said this, but Kirk cousins is really good. I mean, like people hold, these guys is such a high standard and they, they want these guys to all be Brady Rogers or Mahomes, or whatever. Kirk cousins is he made again, some reduc Yetlis throws under duress. Very impressive. Tease Arizona Cardinals get their first win of the season. Twenty eight eighteen win over the forty Niners. Yeah, no, not a ton of takeaway from this game. Other than I liked it, the the cardinals went deep on the first play. You know, I liked that Rosen into Christian Kirk connection that looks like it could be good for years to come for the Niners will hear what Dr Chow has to say about Matt Brita, but there's just a really beat up football team CJ Beathard turn it over way too much. And that just makes it really, really tough for them to win when you do that. The LA Rams defeated the Seahawks thirty, three to thirty one. They are now five and Owen the season, and they are the fifth team to score these thirty points in each of their first five games to start a season in NFL history. Well, didn't know that one either. Good nugget Bri really good nugget. I would say this game was awesome. This probably ended up being like the game of the day to Seahawks offense is coming alive. I mean they're running the ball really well with multiple running backs. Russell Wilson made some clutch throws Brian. Schottenheimer had been everybody's punching bag, but there were a lot of really positive things from them. Offense in this game any their defense to play better, especially when the Rams lose both Cooper Cup end Brandin cooks to injury, you know, to concussions to still get out. The win is impressive for the Rams, but to give up that many points. For Seattle, not good, Marcus Peters struggled for the Rams, and here's the thing to p Carol. He had to call it a time out there, right? It just proved to be costly because they were going to get the ball back. So instead the Rams changed their mind and they elect to go for it. After Pete Carroll calls, timeout makes them think about it a little bit. And then they went with a quarterback sneak and they got, I don't know why more teams don't run the quarterback sneak. Here's the thing on the quarterback, sneak Bri the quarterback just kinda lifts his his his hand a little bit. Apply some pressure to the center and in the center snaps it. So you have like a good almost half second. Certainly split-second jump even more so than a snap count because he uses you and you're going, and then your guards follow suit. Your guards in the detach was going to be about even. But your center should really be able to get into the guy on one side. And then when the guard comes, he should come and a lot of times the way defense they're lined up. There's a soft spot there anyway. So I liked the call to go for it, and I liked the quarterback, sneak call even more. I'd say. And finally, Sunday night football goes to the Houston Texans one thousand nine hundred sixteen win in overtime and another game that came down to a field goal yet another game became down to a field goal and another game where coaching decisions were prevalent. I mean, Bill O'Brien. They were awful in the red zone where the Texans, they got to Shawn Watson, murdered throughout the game. He was getting absolutely lit up. The only thing that saved them is that JJ watt is still good. De'andre Hopkins is amazing including that tremendous catch and run that he had an overtime, which was ridiculous. And Jason Garrett made an ultra ultra conservative call to punt the ball from the Texans. Forty two in overtime, ultra conservative at that point. I think he thought my defense is playing well, even if I get a field goal here, it doesn't end the game. And we just ran on into and didn't get a whole lot. So we gotta we gotta keep building. We gotta punted away and hold with three now get the ball back midfield. And then if you'll go with win it for us, didn't work out that way. Texas took advantage of the opportunity they had. And now Jason Garrett is getting a lot of criticism and probably rightfully so speaking of criticism, I don't know how anybody could ever be critical of dose AKIs number one, they're smart enough to be the official beer sponsor of the college football, playoff number two. They're smart enough to advertise on the Ross Tucker, football podcast. You're he has ever think like, okay, that means his company must be legit. They must know what they're doing. If they're going ahead and advertising on the raw soccer football podcast, they. We know the deal. They know Ross is a daddy soda expert. They know that I know what I'm talking about. They know that I love beer. They know that a lot of my listeners love beer is well, and they wanted to have the only beer to have its number retired. The only beer Bri that led former president, Ben Franklin, the tear down a goalpost. You probably don't remember that drink dose equities responsibly, twenty teen imported by survey Sa's, many kindness, White Plains, New York. Let's get a little doctor Challe action. We mentioned several running backs, Chevy live. These. We need to find out from the the guy that does the pro football doc podcasts and gives us the medical minute every Monday on the RTF p week. Five of the NFL may be one of the healthiest weeks in recent memory. As long as saquon. Barclay's niece stays healthy. Early reports from the coach in the player are that his knee is fine. After the go. Go ahead touchdown late in the game, but he did land awkwardly on his right foot with shift to his knee as long as it doesn't swell overnight. As long as there's no reports of bone, bruise or ligament injury in we can avoid disaster of an ACL tear from saquon Barkley. It will be a good week. A few other running backs were not so lucky Corey grant or the Jacksonville Jaguars season is over with list Frank injury that still may need surgery, Matt Brita has a left high ankle sprain by video. Add to that his previous right knee injury in his shoulder issue. He's probably gonna need a couple of weeks off just to get his whole body healthy in addition, carry on Johnson has a right ankle, low spraying, not a high ankle sprain, but a deltoid type spring that still could keep him out a couple of weeks. Overall, the rest of the league is relatively healthy other than a couple of concussions to Rams wide receivers. Brandin cooks in Cooper Cup. We'll have to see how long they take to recover in return. Thanks for listening. Thank you for doing that. Dr Chow that'll do it for a monster, Monday edition of the Ross Tucker football podcast. The Madden phrase that pays week to contest is on. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR1

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR1

"Whoa. Hey in civil. Joins renewing. Five pointless guys ready for something. Not not. Here you go. This is a little bit of quick math. What took place go one thousand and one total yards yards seven turnovers. Oh, that's not good ten touchdown passes. That's really good three defensive touchdowns before teen touchdowns overall a hundred and five points the most in the history of Monday night football, the third most ever in the history of the NFL. And just I I don't know if I've ever seen a better football game in my entire life as far as back and forth last even have the ball all night long player after player all the stars that we thought would pop pop last night. Just an extraordinary show. Yeah. The only thing I would have wanted was it to be like the Super Bowl that's already that. It was missing because gotta pull back still say Dane that week eleven yet. Yeah. Week eleven. Pretty damn good. We. That right there wouldn't gonna happen. Super Bowl get no type of numbers in the Super Bowl. That's for sure. But it just well key. They might play each other in the Super Bowl. True. They could play on this who for whatever reason. I mean when you look at this game they both came out with game plans. Understanding I was texting Travis and I think I take shots at ignorant blowed him out talking what I say thirteen thirteen. Yes. Sitting on blow them out Trevor city. I don't think so. Looking at it. I'm like, well, you know, the Rams get ready to push the pedal. Right. You know in in all of a sudden Casey comes back. They score. You know, the Rams missed that. They missed the extra point. That's what scared me. But then they score. Right. Okay. Casey coming back they score. Then all of a sudden, I believe the Rams scoring KC scored in a blink. It was twenty three twenty three at half-time. It's okay. Chain smokers came on desperate change. Chain smoking after that they went in and made halftime adjustments. And then all of a sudden defense aside a ball st- on both sides started to play scoring points. They just start to play a lot better hair, Donald just semi turnover. Seven seven it is so weird to have the highest Gordon Monday night football game of all time. And when I close my eyes I see as many defensive plays as office of plays. And it just lets you know, just how even matched these two heavyweights are the the the two interceptions in the end. I mean, I know you I discount Dole's why? Because it just at the end of the game. And it's on. No, no, no, not doing it note. No, no, no. We defy great QB play. We define MVP's by having a minute and eight seconds left and a time out and marching. At least time game with a field goal. No. But when when I look at what I look at the situation with a young quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, driving down the field ninth. First of autumn. The what the hell som- invade was calling. No, not Sean what the hail tyreek hill was doing on the punt return. Why did he stay out? He's just trying to make a play at that point. Cry you bullet you don't line. I get it. But at the same time you're backed up to your two yard line. You let the damn ball his mistakes. It was a mistake. So you put a young quarterback in a situation where he now has got a March ninety plus yards. Wiz night less than a minute though with zero opportunities Eero timeouts and with the waiver. Timeout one. Wait a game was going the way game was going you figured with win. The Rams scored to go ahead. Fifty four to fifty one. I don't know about you guys. I oh they left too much time in the clock. There's about a minute of half of your like, oh boy. Here we go. There's too much time. They're going to they're going to do what they do. And it just felt because and so that's why I think the interceptions do count. This was not a hail area at the the game to Joe. This was a TA was and they were moving one on the field. Got hit by your arm counts out, heroic counts. But and then there's a little bit of mistake. Oh, his part because when he saw the defensive end I can't even pronounce the guy's name, which one you keep your yet when he saw EBA Cam. When he saw Kelsey could not keep them away being away. You're not you you need to set up behind Kelsey not in front of Kelsey. So he set up the front of Heathrow. He got his arm. He so that was a big mistake on his part in terms of the interception. But what led to a minute twenty to go on the clock when they punt it, and he'll? Tyreek Atari got the ball at about the two back into the end zone. Brought it out got it about the twelve yard line of so around the it got down to fifty seconds. That's a long ways to go. When everything is being pushed to the inside of the feel nothing is they're not giving you the sideline right? They stand on the sideline in straight line. Say throw the ball in the middle of the field. Yeah. Don't care in. When you when you don't have the time outs. And you don't have those sort of things and you got that far to go for young quarterback. Or no we've seen breeze in Brady and all these type of do. But this young kid like that first opportunity list. We saw last night jerk off just did it say. Notes time out sixty one to forty seven to two minute warning but warned ruin the forty seven and you're right. There was the two minute warning. But he managed it beautifully. One want to say it was four or five. But it was pop pop. Side for a forty yard Seattle. But see he got that crowbar was an MVP trophy that was PECH Mahomes hand, and he says Dr dog we still got game left. A lot of wishing. Why would they line on every that safety? He ran right Bye-bye there when I saw that. And I saw what was going on. What this is what they say. Man to man, and I'm looking. Minute that do don't beat him key is not a credit to Sean McVay that he's able to put together formulas. He's able to put together a formations. He's able to put together personnel that gives him a mismatch like this Sonus as soon as the safety came down in the other safety road to the middle of the field. I knew it was wanna one of all the way across the board in the best match was ever ever own this dude over there. So I know if I'm watching, and I'm not in their film room. And I could just see it on television said in no immediately. What's getting ready to transpired take place? He was gonna shoot him down like a duck. But still take the shot you'll have to be able to shoot the done hit the duck liver the pass in every made an incredibly athletic play going up to stay inbounds. I mean. Smartly. What's that wasn't? A smart wasn't a I decided it wasn't a first one leading play. But he wasn't a first one in allows where now third and I don't think he's I don't think he loves the game. I don't these pieces. I. Travis said, it was an athletic. There was going look Ballarat up the sideline wasn't as smart. He could because they use his brain legs skill restart intellect to make sure that you know, that I'm not comfortable with this one doggone it, you think about this for a second guys. The Rams scored a season high fifty four points, right? No Cooper Cup. Right. Outta vailable? Todd gurley. Thirteen games appear. TD relatively quiet night for him. Thirteen game TD street snapped Robert woods Brandin cooks combined. One touchdown. You're trying to tell me that they scored a senior high fifty four points and the office of horses that have got into the end zone time and time again for them. We're not available. Well that weather so dangerous how what a production when you say it wasn't Cooper Cup. That's not true because the production from that position came from rentals. I'm production Brennan's is in the starter Cup is he's hurt. He's out for the season. So my my point is that this great office that led the league last season that that's pretty damn good. This season didn't utilize or have access to some of the main horses offensively. And they still. Fifty four points now of defense. But I just like holy hell. It was extrordinary. And and I think that for the handful of people that didn't think for whatever reason that the Rams were a Super Bowl contender probably or changing their mind right now because we saw everything. All right over their children. We'll get into it. The red flags drink the whole bottle. Y'all was Sean McVay? What was he doing at the end of the game with some of those play calling where he decided to not put the ball in Todd Gurley hands into throw it a couple of times as well. We'll get into all of that more from the Rams game last night the ten and one LA Rams. That's coming up next dos. Sets up in the shotgun with early on his right hip. Four receivers in formation first down in ten from the Kansas City forty. He fires Whiteside killed ever. Killed ever. With one forty nine to go forty yard strike from average. And the Rams are back on the high side fifty three fifty one. One of two touchdowns from Gerald Everett last night to both of them in fourth quarter quarter. Yeah, I didn't even know we had a tight end until Cooper Cup went out who is not really tough fever as an imposture two touchdowns last night. Both the fourth quarter Tyler hig had six catches last night to got some warning to biggest catch was the one on the sideline late in the fourth quarter. The ball was high. He went up got feet now. Push that to say time on the sidelines. People don't realize our heart. Those catches are. Because you don't understand exactly what you are on the field. Plus, the defense not the defender. The opponent on that sideline is standing there. They're screaming holler net. You and doing all you gotta still stay focus. Catch the ball come down with two feet. Even though somebody's pushing you shoving you out about. Here's Sean McVay talking about being part of a historic NFL night. Now, it was it was a whirlwind. I feel like you know, I might need a couple beverages to relax tonight. But. It was it was great. I mean, this is what you love so much about this game. And really, what's the what's the best part about it is is that locker room sharing that with with the people that you love, you know, the players the coaches this organization, but it was it was it was a great match up. But it was just one game. And there's a lot of football left. We gotta do a great job making sure that we respond. We get ourselves healthiest possible. And we're refreshing ready to go when we play the lines come back from the by. So that Sean McVay after the game. So politically, correct. He is he didn't know those right. Say drink beverages left. It open could have been just want my people alone. So. But it's interesting Sean McVeigh eleven games this year went through seventeen games last year. At the end of the game last night. You could hear it right there a little bit. He he he recovered a little bit by the time that he gave that quote, he was sped. Usually after the game. He still fired up. He's got a ton of energies like just crackling with life after the game. I mean, again, fifty four fifty one I get it. But he felt spent and you wonder if it wasn't because he knew that he dodged a bullet with the way that the end of the fourth quarter exhaust was watching me entire game. I mean, he made me tired just the the celebrate after every play just you could tell he was into this game. He wanted to win football for number reasons. But when you look at the end of that game. He dodged a bullet big time dodge the bullet car built. Because if you woke up the next morning and people are going to pounce on him for making a huge mistake. Throwing the football three straight times allowing Kansas City to have hope when you had even if even if something was wrong with Todd Gurley you go to the number two back now come round and you hand him to football three straight times. You make them waste time outs. Right then. And there you with with Zor line who obviously pets heck Hecker. He kicked. Yard bomb. You you know, you got that weapon. And that's how you finish off today. There's there's some moments, and I think one of the things that maybe V thing second thing. I think I think is intellect in his innovation is number one. What makes him him? But the second thing that makes him is that he's incredibly aggressive, and he's willing to go and he's willing to try. He's not the least bit cautious or timid when it comes in too big moments. He tries things, and I think the most of the time it's a good idea. I think that they're being aggressive as almost always rewarded in athletics. It really is an incredibly important trait. But there are some times to being aggressive can be a hindrance, and I think last night falls into that very small category. But it definitely was in it where don't over think this. You don't need to throw it to Robert Woodson. Nice play to stay inbounds. But you don't throw a screen right there. Which by the way was nearly intercepted and kills the clock. It gives the chief another time out turn around and give it to Todd Gurley. Three times in a row if they stuff you. They stuff you have Johnny hiccup boom at anyway. But at least you made me spend all three timeouts I understand that being aggressive is important. But that was that was too much. It just don't over think. At sometimes run the ball with girly get your first down and if not punted away. Yeah, I agree with you. Remember the fourth. There was a moment. Think with four minutes ago, a little bit less, and they were inside the thirty and was fourth in one it came up just a little bit shy. And I was like don't do. I know you think about it bra, but don't do Jesus. No. Vision. He thought thirty seven yard line. I believe on their own thirty seven. Telly killed him. That's when Jared Goff can know. That's when they through the screen to cooks cook came up just. Yeah. His need fail. Right. Bluer shorter receivers that'll get that dough. His brain told him to go forth right there any list. I don't know why at the end of the game. I get maybe you're trying to catch them sleep. And maybe you know, if you complete that pass you get the first. If you know the first down because of past on talks, stop did complete the first past number would he did which was great? Then he got cute and he wanted to go the opposite way with the same play. That almost got intercepted almost was a disaster. Why I again, I like the great is this because let's be honest. Let's be honest, and I I have been leading the Sean McVay bandwagon from the moment. He got in town. I am on the top of the hill when it comes to being a fan for this topic to these picks. But it just seems to me that the way that he manages the clock that seems to be the way they manage their time outs. And the way that they manage the clock at the end of games seem to be the one thing that just like, okay? There's still a little bit of a new coach we forget this is his second year in the league. He hasn't been in a ton of games like this. He's still learning how to manage. But that last night as coaching one. Oh one. The Phillips way you have coaches jet fishes part of his crew who's been a head coach call plays before you have experienced guys on that sideline to be able to tell him coach. What are you doing? I believe he just overruled those situations and be able to say, I got you the first one I got I was like, oh Robert was with a bus that it was over game said Matt woods heads got down. Inbounds kept the clock running as nervous because they live close close. Much could go wrong situation man, and nothing's gonna go wrong other than you're gonna wind up having to put it away. Anyway, if you turn around and give it to girly tell you what else was big last night. The Coliseum was full. The Coliseum was full with Rams fans. You know, I thought that and we're talking about a little bit on the pre game show. The chiefs have been in L A already this year. They play the chargers earlier. So I think maybe the Kansas City people that we're going to make a trip probably already made the took even in this game was supposed to be. Mexico. They weren't planning on coming to LA for this game jumping. So all of a sudden, you find the Rams had a honest to goodness homefield advantage last night. It was the first time I've seen it where the place is not only full but full with people that was rooting ram's case fans there though. They were around when they play Green Bay a couple of rabbits. It was I felt like massive because of that preseason game. It was going to be drowned with red. I did not notice. Yellow and blue man, it was so critical that in that moment where we're that. They win the game that that there was an opportunity there to say, look, Los Angeles. Yep. We understand the Brian to score fifty one wanna stand the dodgers again World Series bow. But dammit, look at us muc at what we're doing. If them lost that game. They can't say no, not only did they wouldn't fifty four bleep in points. Scored fifty I'm on Monday night football team that gives scored fifty one they needed every last one of those points is going to be fascinating to see what the television numbers are locally going forward. Because even if for whatever reasons you didn't take the time of day to watch or or be aware what was happening last night. This is not a team was talking about this is now this isn't just sports. This is on good Morning, America. This is our news channel CNN talking about it. So now, suddenly. Thirty you feel like you're missing something and harder. Something to know. Where exactly am I missing? How can I tap into the this LA city? We have every team we have college sports. We have pro sports you want. The fact that matter is this is a town that runs on events. Not games events is a big deal last night was an event right? And it was a quarry. Football belongs in the United States. This just reality of it. I mean, it just really does. I mean, that's our deal. Trump a. Stop it. Well, Trump that's a day of food. It just our vent. It's like, you know, they're not going to all of a sudden the biggest match in Europe in soccer. And all of a sudden bring it to the United States leave it over there. I mean, that's just what it is. I mean, it's nothing. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. That's what football is made for us. Those type of games in a Monday night high flying scoring event. It's entertainment. This is LA. I can only imagine. When when if this game was at the the new stadium. All right. A Monday night. They'll be and every damn box in Rena. Yes. Look into see who's there. Who's on the sideline? I mean, it wasn't obviously we don't have boxes at the Coliseum. So you didn't get a chance to see store star and people that were in the crowd. But I'm sure you have some celebrity sitting older plastic seats. Oh, sure. No, no, no doubt about it was it was an event and the league caught a little bit of a break a big break in the vent that game got back to LA, keyword, Mexico City would have been great. But would have been great. It would have been different. The Rams the Rams win fifty four to fifty one. What does it mean for where they are in kiesha? Find out next gothics quick snap. Third down and goal from the seven retreat. Fires middle Gerald every two yard deep. What side has it? Down LA fireworks. Why para Stalin here at the Coliseum? It's rocket in the Rams back in fronts. Mr. Ed I keep saying horses as he keeps saying horses. So now Christmas fascinated with who is it fascinated by horses. Horses. Now me might be. Donkeys because I was making note that the Rams scored fifty four points without their main horses get an end zone. And now Chris locked Dan for next three hours here Turkey songs play later before before we get to powering a quick tweet that comes from Rick repaid. This McVay strategy discussion feel it's a good time to remember the Jeff Fisher used to coach we've got. Let's take. Yeah. I will stop criticizing his endgame clock management when they scored fifty four points. The Jeff Fisher speaking Fisher one if you learned anything from last night mass how about last season or just in general, what's to wonder if he realizes, you know, maybe I was just stuck in neutral. You guys ready for another number. Yes. Ram scored fifty four points last night. Jeff Fisher, never score. Fifty four points is entire coaching career. Jeff fisher. And the Rams scored fifty four points combined in their final five games of the season. When he was here, we lower Jesus, I was that some of that mess. You some numbers? How about these over strategy ready? Yeah. Ranking. That's right. Everyone wants to know where where the Rams are going to be after victory. But I of course, we start at number ten where Keyshawn had his titans last week. I I don't know who told you to put the titans that number ten but go hit. Well, I told myself to put the time that number. Until yourself that because the tight, and I know you told me trying to figure it out. The obviously have been trying to win football games. They've been doing a pretty good job of Marcus mariota, a young new head coach. But also when you look at the division Jacksonville's completely loss. Indianapolis is kind of this Andrew writing the conversation is happening. So I'm gonna live. I'm gonna make them the number ten slot along with Tennessee. I'm gonna join the Indianapolis Colts in Tennessee titans. At number ten Tennessee doesn't necessarily move. Usually we have to wait to somewhere in the middle to get our eleventh team. Titans smoked smoke. They did. But they sit in five and five. Okay. Legal. Wait a minute. Even though they were number ten got blown out at number. They gonna stay here. Confused. No, no need to be three years Roswell. He's still. Number new wanna go ahead. Number nine titans. Who Andy you want me to put anybody to make you happy that what you want your number ten you lose. You should probably be because they about the same type of team to power ranking? They shouldn't be there trying to figure out the logic. This. We're gonna. We're going to be. Around with one arm. All right last week. We had the Vikings. What do you make baseball because it's too soon? And it's inaccurate to. Yes. Yeah. No, number accurate and no hitter number talking about number nine where the Vikings when the Vikings are not at number nine number nine is the Dallas going to win the NFC east. Don't a Washington reds. Do not have a quarterback. They signed Mark chance as the backup. So what does that tell you? That tells you the Cole McCoy your starter. Okay. So I like the fact that Dallas with Amari Cooper as well as that press got Zeki Elliott marching right down number one and Vander defense. They Vander Sean defensive smart only. Coach's son loves in the locker Hilma kid. Hilma kid, the has it Syrians and might be able to been to a Super Bowl or one NFC championship game. There was a game. Eight the rock them team could have found besides Sanchez could helped him all right Farrakhan. Yes. Number. The patriots last week. They gonna sit tight I'm leaving them right there. Even though they were all leaving him at number eight movie people move up off of a buy along question. Your formula usually stick to the Texans where number seven last week. You were talking about the trinity tex-, Texas or not at number seven charges lost a close game. But I'm gonna still moving him down. I dropped him down the number seven because I just it's a mother team that plant better more solid kind of consistent football right now. And that's not too far down me move them. Because other teams about where they are going to get back in the mix probably toward the end of the that was a bad loss for them. Because we now we know the Kansas City loss they could have been tied. Going to play another game against the chiefs and opportunity to win the division even though Kansas City got off to that. Great start. The chargers are okay. I don't know how good they are. They're not bad. But then that there and they got a black coach move on. Number six. We're the Steelers seeking of black head coaches are not at the number six the Texans at the number six by what black quarterback. Said enough. Yeah. Come on get back to Trump like that better. Let's be me. So. When you look at me stop. Into show. Watch Watson in the offense. They're doing a good job. He's seventy in a little bit at the quarterback spa. Bill. Brian has learned what he is at the quarterback defenses plan will JJ watt, cloudy, Romeo. Cornell has them plan. Good in division that they shouldn't run away with a tell you what I think I put the Houston Texans in the same categories that chargers that I don't know who they've beaten and what it means. You know what I mean? I get it. But I don't know if they're a good team and other getting winds, and that's all that matters to get into the postseason. They are right. Exactly. That's what I'm getting that. The bears were number five last week off and coming off that. The bears are moved ahead a little bit. Pittsburg takes the number five spot with a black head coach and people were down on him all year long way, Terry Bradshaw. But I think when you look at Pittsburgh, they make you kinda wonder what type of team they are. But they fight. They get behind almost like they try to tease you making you believe that they're gonna lose football games TNA turning on at the last. They're they're exactly what they are every single year. They might not have on Bill might look a little different from week to week, but they win games. There wouldn't be one of the favorites in the AFC going into the last month of the season. This feels like we do this every year we do. But it also feels like they're not a favorite to win a Super Bowl go to the Super Bowl. Feels like to me is still feels like they're spinning their wheels. The wheels are on a high level, but it doesn't get older not Hutter. Playoffs. Naked lose immediate. Right. But they're going to be one of the three teens that you looked to come playoff because the experience the they they got the New England Patriots. They got candy chiefs with no real playoff experience, you know, long term. So they're still be wanting to three teams in the mix. When time comes all, right? Number four last week. Of course, were the chargers were Z show. Does his lightning bolt in that didn't seem to do the trick? They loss of this week whose number four lightning bolt. Didn't do the trick. At all number four, Chicago. You know returning back from injury the defense's playing Chicago bear defense. Offense is playing Chicago bear offense run the football. Don't make any mistakes. And I think that division is so up for grabs even though their head of you just never know how shakes out in the end. But I think right now is a stance today. I would say that they're probably the fourth best team in a national football. You think they wanna play off game? They're going to get in the way that the NFC is shaking out. They're going to get in there. Whether it's division champ or wildcard, I don't know. But they're going to get in because they're going to win ten games. And that's going to get them in do. They win a game. I think they do going to be at home for that the game. It's gonna be cold. You know that environment. I think they went a game. And it'll be a six to nine Barmer number out of the division. They become a wildcard team and gotta go on the road. Do they lose then probably lose because I don't think the quarterback could travel. I don't think he's a traveling quarterback to say, well, he has frequent flyer miles. Who's gonna take division? Maybe minnesota. Maybe Green Bay. I get. It's it's unlikely, but it can have could. Couldn't fly minister cod air you go. Just heels is this scenario completely forfeit that they end the season on a four game losing streak. No was. Oh, it's been ten minutes. All right number three or the chiefs to stop. You know, this is this is no telling me the other day won't you to arouse shut until that person shutout told you. Talking growing. You never hear. Oh, you couldn't say that to me. If I wasn't here. So number three, it's not gonna change much. That's what you're looking for Kansas City is going to be at number three the candidacy despite losing last night. It was a hell of a game was at one hundred and five hundred five points over thousands yards seven turnovers. Fourteen touchdown fourteen. That was probably is as long as I can remember the best Monday night football game to memory high ornament in that game ever. I mean, it was very entertaining in Kansas City was a part of it. They stay at number three. I think they're in for the long haul. Okay. The big question is who's a number two. Because that would mean Rams either went back to number one or despite that victory on the best Monday night game. You said you've ever seen. They state at number two. Who's number two? It's hard to move them. The number on key. It's hard to move. The Rams the number one on them scoring a bunch of points on the New Orleans Saints when a New Orleans Saints network of points this past week. I mean, it's not come on. They score forty eight. Okay. So a few less. I would love to yell. You argue, but I'm not I can't. I mean, you can't you get. I'm like y'all my nephew play for them. Hornets saints their number one. So I'm using impetus to call in to nephew. So that's wonderful. That means. I don't care now. They don't play around here. Have your nephew call in? No, I'm not going to do that. Because I want to talk to my nephew because he he had caught. Got. The him. And you know, like good for you, though. That's my cousin. Yeah. We fake cousins. Got something to say L Z does guest on you haven't. Really, thanks. So were the saints are number one for the second street way. I think it's more of a one a one b. Given that idea because they start having five five beat. Q? What else will happen? Every other show around this world will be doing the same. Yeah. Keys power rankings hundred five points, fun to watch hundred five points. You're an offense player a lot of a lot of fun. We're there a pimple of red flags last night, especially on defense will get into it next under center immediately turns left shoulder fakes to girly deep. Deep drop to his own forty five wings over little. A diving Robert woods he gets to feed in Eric Murray at the seven DR mine. With a huge catch to set up. First goal, LA my home. Oh, don't encourage mills. Please. Hello. This is a good song. Good salty back Kinsey, bro. All right. So one hundred five points eleven office. There was a ton going on last night. And it was fun. And it was exciting. It came down to the last few seconds of four hour game. And all the numbers that we've been through thousand yards total offense thousand and one or there's some red flags in this. I mean, the Rams gave up fifty one points. They needed to score fifty four fifth forty four fair. One was a fumble return was a fumble return. You do stuff like that? It's okay. You'd kinda cut down what they gave up defensive those day. Understand that they accredited for those points on the defense Satistics, they get charged. They're gonna it will count. Nothing to do with like twenty one points that Kansas City defense. Right. They're going. They're defense chart if you're and you can even throw the chiefs in there if you want to but the the idea of the Rams, and we've seen it they've given up thirty points week after week after week they gave up fifty one depending on how you wanna split it. But there's fifty one points. Messed up. Are you are you worried or is this just the way because the NFL has gone the way of big twelve football? It's just up and down last twelve. Yeah. Give me the ball last. And I got a chance to win whether it's seventeen to ten or whether it's fifty seven to fifty it doesn't really matter because the Rams and I said this yesterday we were talking about the Rams give up yards. They give points. But what they're able to do is. They're able to find a way to get a big play when they needed Aaron Donald ended last night EBA candidate last night. We we see them come up with the big play or you worried that they're just when you keep playing like this. When you keep giving up yards points. You're in trouble. No, I'm not worried because there's only two teams going to be able to do this to them saints saints know in Green Bay as the other in Green Bay may not even be in the playoffs. That's it. So when you look at the sites is the only team Carolina's not gonna do it too. And Lanta probably not gonna play Alice won't Dallas who else Chicago's not. Who else Seattle Seattle Seattle? Seattle max though, it was maxed out at thirty day. They're not getting into the fifty. Plus, just not they're not. I'm not I'm not I know I joke around about Seattle and this and that but Seattle at the end of the day is a different type of matchup for him. You know, what I'm saying Seattle wants to play a close to the vest that thirty one thirty three they'll do that. But there's not going to be no point who NFL football where you because it used to be if you hold your opponent to seventeen or less. You got a pretty good chance to win. We had an air now where if you hold him to twenty five or he played here's what I would say just the Rams defense isn't as good as you thought they were going to be true. That's the that's on paper to begin a year. We figured Tampa Bay Buccaneers and rising seven Derrick Brooks or Chicago, Bears eighty five or New York Giants look at the names. Everybody's up from big money to leave it even with those guys in there. That defense is not a. Three and out shutout consistent defense. They're gonna make them. Punt the scores. Good. They're only gonna give up nine. It's not that type of default. But who has a defense in the National Football League right now. Yes bears. Have a good defense. Good defense is good eighty five bears or the ravens or your team. Yeah. We're not. We're not seeing like that. You're not gonna see those type of defenses in because the Dallas Cowboys have a really good defense. They off his puts them in trouble. So when you look at it you sitting there going down they lost again. But their defense is not getting forty to hug on you. They're just Raji wanna speak to that. You your ears? I feel you mentioned the trouble. You're right. The offense does get in trouble. They wasted. I wrong guy that got them. Three catches for thirty six yards. So it didn't really get us out of trouble. It would you have that? I pick back. They won. That's not really why asks you, Charlie. I like the because we use the first round pick on van elegance. We wouldn't have had then. Advani Independence Hall. I got number fifty five inter shopping. We use the first pick to acquire him. So we won't be acquiring anyone like that this year because we don't have a first round pick. Because we trade it for a guy that's bad seasons. Only got three catch thirty six ers touch point though Travis about the Rams defense. They're not as good as we thought they were be, but they supposedly hit when they're supposed to and there's something to be said about whether it's a jump shooter who shoots forty two percent from field. But he always hit that game when he shot, you gotta have it or, you know, tennis player always his big serve and gotta have it yet. When you gotta have it, and they come through, you gotta give them the proper, and that's Donald Aaron Donald seems to be able to know. As many human. Oh, okay. You're going into different to rent. So you when you see we gotta watch game together. A key. I understand what he's doing. No. I'm just saying some of the stuff that he does though. Yeah. Did you see believable? You know, wait a minute, man. He will. Here's the thing. He's double teamed on every snap everyone watching game show. I do I would love to watch a game. I understand you don't wanna watch. What you gotta get much. I wanted to keep John great John watching game out run. No. But you're right. He's double teamed on every snap. When he. But what he's able to do. Why do let me tell you? Let me tell you about football. Yes. But he's he's on every snap. And he still is able to get home and make a big play. When they absolutely have to have it if he knows it. Yeah. When he's here when he's not getting there somebody else's getting there because it's speeding guys so much focus on that particular double team is slipping now the third guy slides doing now, let's might just come Scott free. He's better than everybody else. That is at. That's simple. You say libra how does the brownies better than everybody else? That's he's able to do it his simples. He's six feet tall. But these compact and he strong. What man go ahead say it? Right. Word animals, whatever. But I also. Say he's strong as an sin. Going to I was going to go with the weeper bleeper. No, he's he's he's a strong, man. I'm telling you. I've watched he's strong in warrants up. But I've watched that type of defense attack is fastest sap. I think he is. Yeah. Man. He closed kind of body. Does he use because member new homes? One time malls rid a ball. But using. Fifth year that you saw close. It was ridiculous. Hidden show. Patrick Mahomes through six townhouses but Patrick Mahomes. You didn't say go ahead. What did I say Pederick you add? You you've been around us too. I like that mostly talking. Pederick homes. He also had three interceptions. According to one ram. He was rattled find out who next.

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Hour 3: Le'Veon Bell

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Le'Veon Bell

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This product contains nicotine nicotine isn't a chemical. So when you see what is happening with the Pittsburgh Steelers who appeared to have righted themselves after some difficulty starting the season. When Levy on bell saw them losing and put a monocle up on Twitter. It was a monocle. Correct, Mike, it's leaving on bell hasn't had a whole lot of comment. But I think it was a monocle. It was something in the Monica Lhamo. Gee, this is what journalism has become. And what do you do? Now that the Steelers are back in first place. They've taken their rightful place atop the division and James Connor appears to be doing some of the same things that lady on bell did. What do I do if I'm lovey? I'm bell. I stay just what do you make of the situation. What do you make of the idea? I know that five games ago we were talking and I was saying because the offense lineman in Pittsburgh had come down so strong publicly on Levy on bell. I was saying they had to start wondering whether or not they were real good at their jobs because of how bad they looked early in the season. Now, they know, and, but they seem to be pretty good are James Connor seems to be reproducing that or something close to lady on bell. And although he's fumbled more. He's had three fumbles. Yes. But he's had a very very good season, Dan. So, but I would say to you though. And this is why I don't think that this is a system development, even though James CONNER has been good. I think they still have the two best skill guys in the division. And therefore they're on top of the division. Like they've got the best quarterback in the division still. Right. And they've got the best wide receiver. You might go AJ green over Tonio Brown. And and and then you've got I mean, they've certainly got the best two receivers in the division. No question about it. No. I think you're right. I think what you just said is they they have the best. They had the best quarterback in that division. I mean, not saying a lot when you consider it's flacco Andy Dalton and Baker Mayfield who who might be great. But right now, they still have the best quarterback and they have the best wide receiver. And they might have the best running back in that division. Even without having Levy on bell on the roster. So love EON bell. That's the interesting part of it to me is what does love EON bell do because I still think if you Levy on bell, your twenty five you're young everyone knows how talented you are someone's going to give him money. He's just trying to get the free agency healthy. That's all he's just trying to get to. When's he coming back? Right. He's coming back. You gotta play him when he comes back though. Right. Got you have to. I don't know. We'll do we know if he's coming back. He's the the the in order to get the accrued time that he needs to make all of this world worthwhile. While he has to show up here. We're halfway through the season. He has to show up here. Either week Tanner weaker eleven week eleven in order to get what it is that he's sitting out for which is freedom next season. He's gotta do it. Right. But what do you do? You play. Correct. Even though the offensive line hates him. You're getting a fresh levian bell of that point in the season. Afresh Levy on bell who SOGA listen. I know how good James goners van. I'm sorry. Levy on bells a lot better. Sorry. Also, they could have James Connor an lady on bell. Right. Like every team in the league. Now that strong they've got they've got two running backs that they can they can go to. But this has been a surprise. I don't know the the Pittsburgh Steelers being able to keep that production at that position. With John Bell out has spoken to at the beginning of the season. It looked like a real smart gamble by Levy on bell. And now the the system has spoken on the idea that running backs are disposable because if that guy's disposable than who's not. He's the best running back in the league. He's producing in in terms of the running game. They haven't really had a drop off. No bell is more of a threat, catching footballs, better teat. Look, they are a better team on bell. Nobody's disputing that. But lady on bell is in a contract fight over value. And the Steelers are stubborn on look, we we like you. But we don't need you. And today it's hard to argue that they do is AJ green during a buy week is headed off toward toward to go. See doctors about his feet and the division. Right. There is done if age if AJ green can play the neither can Andy Dalton right? They're still I mean, not ranked very high in terms of yards per game. I mean, they're they're twenty first in the NFL. Their offense is a lesser version of itself. But what I'm saying is in terms of winning and in terms of value paying a guy the way he wants to be paid lady. I'm bell doesn't want to be paid like a running back. He wants to be paid like a wide receiver top line. Receiver because of what he does with pass catching. There is no disputing that. James Connor is not lady, I'm bell. And there is a dilution by degrees. The fact that he's playing in there, but Pittsburgh is still with a diluted offense still five to one I wouldn't use that money that kind of money on a running back even one as good as Levy on bell. Especially since you have a guy an offensive line is proven. They can block for anyone and a running back who's not as good, but still very productive. I'd use that money. Elsewhere someone else will sign Levy on. But if the Steelers I don't think it can after so what would you do with girly? You you wouldn't give anybody girly? But I'm asking you. You're saying you wouldn't give him that kind of money you'd give it to girly. You give it to Gordon who you give it to anybody. I don't think I I just don't think in today's NFL giving the money that kind of money quarterback tight money to a running back is very smart. I just don't. So I don't think I'd give it to anyone that position seems to be interchangeable, Mike I'd like to go through some football sound here. Gimme some good. Mike Tomlin sound on this subject. Still needs letting Belfast with has greatest Qatar's fine. You know, we haven't spent a lot of time focused on it. Because it's not within our control those decisions lady onze, we need volunteers, not hostages. So we're focused on the guys that are here and working in James is definitely and that miss. There ain't nobody volunteering Tomlin. There volunteering. You will take away the paychecks. And you will lose your volunteer. Let's hear some more sound from football people. Do you have anything back there with Rex Ryan talking about how fast I recall it? Yes. Look at a talent around him. I mean, you got a great tight end. Kelsey, you got this. You got the cheat out there. Tyreek hill the fastest player. I've ever seen the only think Bashar and him was that the jumble. I ran through last night the only faster than that. I'm just saying like the talent is phenomenal. Now, I understand how fast he thinks. I didn't before that jambalaya ran through him. Do you have any sound of Rex Ryan ripping Marcus Peters? Yes. That Rams defense. Do you see serious issues there for L I after that first loss? Well, I do I think and it's Marcus Peters. I mean, this guy you trade form big-play corner. Unfortunately for him he's given up big plays all over the place. And it's not just yesterday. I mean, this guy's been burned the whole season. And this is what happens when you have a guessing gamble corner. And you put him as your number one corner. He couldn't hold up and the thing that I that. I really dislike about Marcus Peters. Not just as style of play. It's how he acts on silent. And all that clearly he's in a straight cover zero the everybody sees it man across the board. And then he gets burned for seventy yard touchdown. And the first thing he does he looks around. He's he's a corner that's playing without a stinger and. Do that you're not gonna last and he's got no competence. And and trust me, his teammates have no confidence in him. So he needs to put up or shut up moving forward. Marcus Peters has been very critical of his own play. But I'm just curious, Mike. Do you have any sound back there? Dan Mullen, ranting about anything. Do they keep score someone wins and someone lose? I don't care what we're doing. Thumb wrestle me. Right now kick in. I mean, come on up. I gotcha. Right. You go run stadiums. I'll kick your urine keep scoring someone's going to win and someone's going to lose I want to beat. You don't have that attitude and a Walker him. You gotta Trump. What really what do you do it? I think Mohan would win a thumb wrestling gun. Big hands really put lunch put it on the poll. I want to hear that sound again from Dan Mullen, but just put it on the poll would then Mullen be thumb wrestling champion, they keep score someone wins and someone lose. I don't care what we're doing some wrestle me right now. My you know, what? I mean, if you wanna come on up. I gotcha. You right. You go run stadiums. I'll kick your urine keep scoring someone's going to win and someone's going to lose I want to beat. You don't have that attitude in the locker room. You got a problem? What really what are you doing? Now, admittedly, I might work in the wrong business. But I've learned here as I've approached fifty that competitiveness is not really much of a virtue. My Jimmy sound back there. Jim Harbaugh singing about anything perhaps Don Brown. The top thing. The most impressive thing to me is Dom Brown. I'm reminded of the old jingle in the seventies. When you said, Don Brown, you said it all. He's the king's king of defensive coordinators. So great man are starting to feel good about himself again. He's. Special brand crazies. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Ashra lingering odor make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine, Disney dictates chemical donlevatar. I had a dream last night about the show that Stu gods was filling in for Joe buck on his podcast and Allison called me to tell me what a great jobs through God's did. And I realized that dream because Alison would never praise God. God's would never fill in for Joe bucks podcast that may or may not even exist. And if I did it wouldn't be good. A lot of factual errors in your dream. What a weird dream. Stugatz. So that's the height of your fantasies. Gear. Well, maybe it was a nightmare. I don't know it happened when I was asleep. Thank you, Gary. Hey up these live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. So the saints won the game of the weekend. And drew Brees wasn't sacked at all that was Aaron Donald and Dominic and sue on the other side there and he gets rid of the bowl too quickly. The mastery of the position is such that drew Brees is completing seventy six percent of his passes. Incredible. He's got eighteen touchdowns and one interception. And I'm just sure the one interception with somebody else's fault. Couldn't have been that he made a bad choice. And maybe an end of the half hail Mary. I'm things find out for gonna take deeper dig deeper and tell me whether this was a legitimate interception. That drew Brees threw or whether I can blame someone else. But got I find this part. Just riveting you've been making fun of me all show off air saying, Dan. When are we going to study that Dan Fouts taped together because I said, I wanna go back in the archives and see if my eyes lied to me about how much improvement. There's been from the precision of the quarterback position. I believe that what we're watching right now from Philip rivers. I'm not even talking about it at the top of the food chain with Brady and Rogers, I'm talking about the next level where breeze and rivers and rothlisburger are. The precision is astounding like, the Mahomes has been great, and and he's been precise. But he doesn't have to be as precise as these other guys. Correct. Because the amount of open space that guys are being schemed in to make it. So he's got a larger margin for error. He he's he's a little more reckless. But the idea, Mike. The ideas did this start with Peyton Manning that we should be. We can be halfway through a season. And then a quarterback in the NFL whole-home has eighteen touchdowns and one interception. It's pretty amazing. It really is that completion percentage of seventy six point highest-ever that'll be the high that would be a record. Would it not this? I think it would be there five quarterbacks who have a completion percentage of over seventy percent right now one of our core. But there are five quarterbacks who have that completion percentage. That's incredible. Think about that. It I've told you this before you'd probably tired of hearing it. But if you haven't seen it, it's amazing. I wonder if Lorenzo has gotten access yet to this video I have asked him to put on our television screen of this sport science of drew Brees competing against Olympic Archer and being more precise from twenty yards with a football than an Olympic Archer is with an arrow and the thing that's happening. I just don't have any recollection of is. These receivers always being hit and stride. These receivers always the Paul is. If drew Brees throws something at your feet. It's because there was a rush or something on the on the plane went wrong. And then you watch these Nathan Peterman play or James Winstons play or Brock osweiler's play. And you're so spoiled by this video game that drew Brees is playing that other imperfect quarterbacks looked like they aren't accurate at all breezes lone interception came against the Vikings just a couple of weeks ago. He was a last starting quarterback to throw an interception. He was facing pressure. And he slightly overthrew Michael Thomas and Hairston Smith picked him off. I feel like the Vikings should be given a Super Bowl trophy for that. I think we should just give them one and say, congratulations, you intercepted debris. I'm watching it. Now Thomas could have gone up a little bit earlier and probably gotten a little bit higher. And you're right, Mike. It's the first time that drew Brees has been rushed the entire season at three Vikings coming after him. He did. And he got hit right as he threw the ball. So that affected how he threw it. Because we know drew Brees is isn't head. It's going to be a completion thought an it's all Michael Thomas. I just I wonder I wonder those gods. I really do like I you have heard me talk before about how in real time. The evolution of sports. Usually isn't something that you had to see happen. We have seen it in football or basketball with the three point shot in a way. That's just happened in our lifetime. The precision of these quarterbacks is an astounding things to God's where they are simply they're the number of times. The drew Brees is dropping back and just obviously throwing it to the space that he's thrown into seven thousand times in practice. That weight, right? And it doesn't matter. What all he's doing is noticing with the coverage is and as soon as he drops back based on what somebody's hips are doing. He's like, oh, I got this guy. He turned his ear to me a fraction of a centimeter. Look at what I'm gonna do now to him. Right. But I'm still confused because you love this show with this. Why are we going to your house later to watch footage of Dan? Fouts. I watch the chargers all day air coryell, and John Jefferson and all those guys that guy. Do you not wonder how different it looks? I think we would laugh if we saw what the chiefs are doing right now compared to what the chargers were doing back there. And I'm guessing the Dan Fouts was throwing flutter balls at I'm guessing that they were very inaccurate and Kellen Winslow Mike was lamenting, Mike. What was that? You. What what did you say? This sentence was uttered in it's what I want to end. This segment you were pining long inexplicably. Earlier today for when tight ends looked a certain way, not the way they do now where their mutant extraterrestrials, but you were law who will you longing for God. Gronkowski's and Travis Kelsey is known as when I was growing up tight ends. Look like Jim Klein saucer donlevatar quickey is it's slithering around get. You are good your your master liars. Stugatz. Are you are you are genius liar? You are like the I'm sign of liar. Leasees libertas show with his two guys on ESPN. Radio the big lead road. Something about the number of Cowboys in the booth Stu guts because there are a lot all over the league for a team. That's won two playoff games and twenty three years in Stephen Ames, shouted at Michael Irvin. Earlier in the show you gotta win three of those to win a Super Bowl at the very least in one season and you've had to in twenty three seasons. Right moose Johnson. You got Tony Romo? Got Troy Aikman. You got Jason Witten and the idea. That Jerry Jones wanted this way. He wants Cowboys on all the telecast. He is the most powerful man in the sport. I had never noticed that before. That's not something that I noticed before that the Cowboys have that kind of prime positioning in broadcasting, and it's it's just all their guys. It's Michael Irvin on the NFL network and the four white guys on network television. You know, it's it's wet and Jimmy Johnson. Right. I've noticed it. I just never given it much thought. I have noticed it though. I mean, Jerry's probably not so happy about Johnson being on one of the channels. But he's flooded the zone by having all the other channels have former a former Cowboys. Giving you the analysis. Right. There's is there another team that has to is there. Is there another team and not just football? Is there another team across you know, Klay? Thompson dad does some broadcasting. It's a great point there. No dolphins calling games. Right. I mean, there's no just dolphin games. I understand national on the national platforms. I'm trying to think of other teams who have multiple broadcasts. It's a jarring number of Cowboys announcers to have in the booth telling you how to enjoy your football. When Michael Thomas goes running to the end zone and pulls a cellphone out. Those were Troy Aikman's old Cowboys sensibilities coming forward, I just don't know how he can have those old cowboy sensibilities when he played on that team. And I don't know if he was in that courtroom that Michael Irvin walked through in fedora and an a mink. Those teams were very bad behaving teams. I don't know. Why? Troy, Aikman goes crazy. Whenever Michael Thomas. Does something like pose a cellphone out of the goal post. I guess the giants have a few people are texting in in Phil Simms. Tiki barber Michael Strahan. Enough. On day barber and booger McFarland. So the bucks are on this to their climbing. Club clubhouse. But is that can that be thing because the theory that the big lead is espousing is that if you put? The former Cowboys in the booth and you will have a better chance of getting in play as a network for the Super Bowl. And that seems from where I'm standing to be a stretch that Jerry Jones would give her help lobby to make sure that ESPN gets a Super Bowl right because Jason Witten is in the booth that seems like like trying to hire Colli Leonard's friend in order to keep him in Toronto as your coach tabloids also have Dion Darren Woodson what he. Cowboys lead by mile, but they are America's team a strange twist the Bengals have to boomer and Collins worth about that. Why are they still America's team? The ratings prove this. Yeah. I mean, okay. Because last night's game was the highest rated you know, week nine game. And I don't know how long and the highest rated television show since Mark you, but the ratings bear out that the the Dallas Cowboys are silly big time national drawl terms of consistent ratings. Huge patriots have Bruschi moss. Just a ESPN hiring a couple of guys doesn't count because we have to we have two litter our library with former athletes, we don't count. Our lav skis wandering around here. We have to we have two litter the lot him Woody about that patriot. Are you just going to keep blurting broadcast a question, man? I'm just trying to do some research for you. But these are not the broadcasters on like, these are the lead broadcasters on the national games. The big game tonight has a cowboy the big game that we were watching yesterday has a cowboy on it. Knicks Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson. Cowboy and a buck. And Tibo patriot. Mike can that be right? That can't be right with the big lead is can is hypothesizing the idea that somebody would hire. How is that possible? Why are you asking me because I don't believe it because I don't understand what it is. There seems to be a lot of Cowboys in play by play boots. But they're all amazing incredible talents. That's not true. They're all awesome. They are. Everyone agrees with it. That was better than Romo. Okay. Very good. Die like Troy Aikman's I- perspective. I really appreciate it. I I never knew that people would react that kind of way to Michael Thomas who else was reacting that way, Joe buck. But who else who else are the only two in America were they were they the only two out there yelling and screaming reservedly? The only America was initially. Didn't know it was an Omaswa Joe horn, Mike. I'm I've got to tell you like once upon a time, the broadcasters could absolutely influence the reaction. Are you telling me that Aikman? And Joe buck were complaining about Michael Thomas, and the people watching were not that this was not a social media frenzy that people weren't outraged by unsportsmanlike behaviour the selfish act of costing your team. Oh, we're the minority. I like that nonsense. I thought it was so cool that he was doing something from like my teenage years what a cool throwback and. I couldn't believe that was an Omar from fifteen years ago if I didn't realize that Joe horn was fifteen years ago. It's the only thing I know about Joe horn, Mike as soon as he did I said Joe horn, that's all I know about it. I mean that is all there is shot for shot recreation. It was amazing. It really was gave them put it on the poll is that all you know, about your horn. I know I news fast. But I got very little information for you outside of that horny. I don't believe. That's as big, man. I don't think that that's what's was referencing. I think that was just an inner thought that popped out. I think what that happens all the time with Stu got. I was talking about Michael Thomas. At go with my coli half an hour ago on the poll GM does Michael Thomas. Make you horny. What were you guys talking about? Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. Visit Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event a football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken. It was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm. But the guy co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Call gyco to see how a forcible homeowners insurance can be done lebatardshow. Say yes, maybe. No stugatz. Saving. Yes. Maybe no live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. How much does that cost that Cam Newton war at the press conference after yesterday's game more than my car that had it's it's I don't know any men who wear have that large. I believe Cam Newton to own the largest hat owned by a man. It's I've never seen a hat that large. It's outside of cowboy hats. Right. He wears it. Well, too. I mean, he wears everything. Well, look at him. He's a statute a one as a beautiful statue. He really is. Many of you are writing in outrage that I have not commented on Brady dusting your boy Rogers, seventeen points is not enough to win at Foxboro. But I didn't feel like that game was decided by the quarterbacks. Did you running back at a big fumble? Adam Jones is it. It's not Adam Jones Jones had a big fumble in the seventeen seventeen game in Packers are driving to take the lead. And so yes, I never put on an hour Rogers. I always put it on someone else. It's jones. But I'm just saying the quarterback Aaron didn't really. The quarterbacks didn't really decide that game. That's not Brady playing. Well, is it that's everybody. Patterson clearly decided that gain for della as you like to call him some sort of Nutella flavor. Yes. I mean, all the sudden had nowhere ease. They're running back and James White's like the best wide receiver in the history of football that that guy is invaluable. And I just don't understand. Why are the patriots the only team in the league that knows how to use their running back like a wide receiver? I guess the saints with Kamara, and I guess the Steelers do it with the lady unveil and obviously the Rams do it with girly. But is it because they're running backs are so good like how is it? The James white. It's if it's not James it'll be somebody else for them. We'll it not catching twelve passes out of the backfield. It seems like they've always had that guy that guy who could do that catch twelve catches out of the backfield. I'm also confused as to why they were the only team to offer fifth round pick for Josh Gordon. I mean, it's infuriating, Dan. It really is. I mean, we know Josh Gordon is good. That's Josh Gordon injured. Judge Gordon wasn't quite right. I didn't even think he was going to play in the game. We'll Josh Gordon injured was five catches one hundred thirty yards and a touchdown. I mean, fifth round pick. Yeah. They beat you last night with Patterson, Josh, Gordon and James white. That's right. No ataman. No grunk that I'm gonna play. I only played six catches. Didn't you throw for a touchdown? Let me that's right. He had the thirty seven yard pass for touch. It wasn't a touchdown. Yeah. Why got tackled to the one and then ballot? Check just kept giving white the ball. So we can get the touch that was I was that is fantasy talking right there. Yeah. I have. I know I know that right? There is an analysis that comes from I suffer because I was yard from getting point. Skip Bayless had performance are going on. Yeah. I wish Tom Brady at someone is good as avant atoms. Devante skip Bayless loves Davante Adams. He just says. How great devante Adams is. Because it allows him to make the arguments that crush Aaron Rodgers he was making pro he had look at it as Julian Edelman, who's lost his burst. He doesn't have gronkowski. He he just never mentioned that he has Josh Gordon for whatever reason I never got around to skip Bayless mention he's got Josh Gordon out there. I mean Patterson is averaging more yards per carry than Todd Gurley. Is he really that? Can't be right. It's is it. This. At lebatardshow on Instagram and Twitter or point eight yards per carry for Todd Gurley. I think over six yards per carry last night for Patterson it's early in Patterson's running back career. But right now, he he has the higher yards per carry. A lot of people are guilty of doing this myself included giving so much credit to Bill Belichick because he was smart enough to put Cordell Patterson in the backfield because he's always historically been a guy who had trouble running routes. But he's so good with the ball in his hand. So this is the quickest way to get the ball in his hands. Why didn't anybody think to put them in the backfield before Jack del Rio is making sure to go on Twitter and saying I did we did check. Check the tape to his credit. He did. Don't miss him over there in Oakland. I think they that's Belgium on telly showing Rogers like, hey, you can win with a wide receiver running back. At lebatardshow, Instagram and Twitter. We've got a lot of polls today. Let's run through them. Stu gods will Frank gore? Have twenty carries for fifty yards in his eighties. Ninety three percent of the audience said. Yes. Do you get irrationally angry when someone puts the U upside down sixty nine percent of the audience said, no nice. It's the worst. If you had twenty four hours could you find a flip phone? Sixty five percent of the audience said, yes, if Travis Kelsey has spotted the ball is he open. It's a great question, man. Ninety three percent of the audience said yes money is he's noticed where the ball is. That's going to be a catch of some sort. Was Rams versus saints crack cocaine ninety one percent of the audience said, yes. If you were a Madden ratings performance adjuster, would you wear that jacket? Sixty percent of the audience said yes did Ed ordure on when the pre game. Ninety percent of the audience said, yes, it looks so bad in retrospect, I didn't see at Orion's entrance into the stadium. Until after I'd seen the game between Alabama LSU viewed from that perspective. It's really ridiculous where you know, counting as he's all sorts of red. 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Eli disappoints and World Series

Izzy and Spain

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Eli disappoints and World Series

"Welcome to Spain and fits the podcast. It is time from World Series baseball. Well, it's not quite time. It's almost time for World Series. Baseball. I, you get an hour of Spain and Fitz leading. You're right up to game one between the dodgers and the Red Sox coming up at seven pm eastern right here on ESPN radio presented by autozone. You got serious Bain and Jason Fitz with you. We will talk to BUSTER only later in the show get you ready with all the matchups and predictions for that World Series whilst to dinner Lobski about all sorts of NFL news get into the Lakers loss last night Rondo versus Paul. But let's start with the World Series fits because there's a lot of questions about these two teams matching up and who's got the pressure. We've got one team trying to break a streak since eighty eight made it all the way to game seven last year and couldn't finish it off. We've got another team that seven and two in the postseason so far had one hundred eight wins in the regular season seems almost like a team of destiny. What would it mean for Boston if they couldn't finish it off. A, let's start there in terms of this this series as we head into game one tonight, who do you think has more pressure right now? I think actually the dodgers have more pressure. You know, the the Red Sox have managed throughout the course of the year to sort of be the other story or one of the two stories I should say. Elise specifically, we spent so much of the year talking about what was going to happen if the Red Sox and Yankees were both great and what it was going to look like. And in that process, we, we sort of they were allowed to share the spotlight. I feel like since mid season, so much of the spotlight has been on l. a.'s sense. They acquire Manny Machado. So much of the spotlight has been there. It builds the pressure. Plus, as you said earlier, I'm not a big fan. I am not a big fan of the historical context. In these instances when you talk about haven't won a series since Eighty-eight because that doesn't really affect these guys. But at the same time, maybe it does because you look at the the reason you're arguing with yourself. I love it. I don't. I don't want to believe anything or does Donald argued both sides. I don't wanna believe it, but then I look at it and I'm like. Maybe maybe the just hearing it create some sort of peace that I can't understand because ultimately they're already talking about if they're talking about it, that means it's on their mind. So I think ultimately the dodgers have more pressure right now. Let's listen. I, you know, having gone through this a couple of years ago with the cubs who obviously had arguably more pressure than any team in the history of sports in terms of the drought that they had an expectations after the seasons that they had had leading up to that World Series year. And I think your argument is right both ways. And one is that there is of course pressure to be the team that ends a drought, like the one the dodgers are currently in, but at the same time it feels very different to them than it does to fans. If you are say a fifty year old fan and you've spent your whole life. This was this was the case for cubs fans, right? It had fifty year old fans telling me how much pressure it was and all the ways that they were going to be held back by the expectations and and you know failures of the teams before them. I said, listen, the law. Longest tenure of any guy on this team right now is five years. So the very most, it's five years of pressure. You've got fifty and that's how I think these dodgers players have to look at this, right? We don't carry the burden of those that came before us and came up short, but they do carry last year's burden of coming up short and they do understand the expectations of a city that's been left without a series of World Series win since eighty eight. So I think they both can be right well on top of that, though, I think there's the additional pressure of the fact that they play in LA and just what that means for LA in the expectations in LA constantly sports fans expect wins and championships. Now that being said, I would also make the argument that the dodgers are better equipped to handle pressure because they've been handling it throughout this entire playoff process, right. I mean, just getting in just winning their division was pressure. Just going into the extra game was pressure just going into the NFL CS the they played a tougher series. I mean, so when you when you look at pressure, they're handling it every single step of the way. So does it even. Matter that they have all this extra pressure. Yeah, you know what like it reminds me kind of of the Yukon women's basketball team, right? Like they would be blowing teams out and then would finish fairly poorly games that were close or went to overtime. They didn't know how to finish close games because they never had them. So the question is has been too easy for Boston has was too easy to go. Seven and two so far this postseason was it too easy to get those one hundred and eight wins? And that's a narrative you could buy into if you didn't wanna look at the quality of opponents that they faced, right. The number of people who chose the Astros to win that last series and were surprised. I think we've sort of just gotten accustomed to how good this Red Sox team is because it was an entire season of domination, and we're now looking for ways to pick apart that team to figure out why we don't think they're going to win. Listen position by position. You can look at this World Series and there are a number of ways in which the dodgers would be given the edge starting pitching their bullpen. Throughout this postseason they had some hiccups down the stretch and the. Regular season, but they've been great ever since this is a team that on paper, you might even convince yourself and then you look over the Red Sox and it's not just intangibles. It's not home field advantage. It's not the best. It's the best two players for that matter in this series, it's, why would we suddenly doubt a team that's been as dominant as they've been all year? Maybe just because their dominance becomes boring. We start looking for storylines that aren't there in Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio sarahspain. Jason fits into that point. You know, I think it's so interesting when you talk about dominance because just because the Red Sox are so good that they've made it look easy doesn't mean that it has been easy and that, right. It's such a small difference, but it is a difference. The only thing that the I continue to be puckered up about if I'm a Red Sox fan and this is the one advantage you you mentioned earlier, and it seems to be according to smarter minds of me a significant amount advantage in the pitching whether it's starting pitching or whether it's in the bullpen, the dodgers have that advantage. If the dodgers have an advantage in pitching and you, and that's really such a key to play baseball. I think that's part of what. You look at from this and that's, that's the hope you're clinging to. If you're Dodger's fan saying, hey, they may have some players for Boston that are better, but top to bottom are pitching staff can beat their pitching staff. And we've seen so many interesting ways to use pitching staffs. Obviously, the brewers stand out the most, but the dodgers have laid out almost all their starting rotation for the series while the Red Sox have given us just the first two starters, and that's because it's still up air what some of the guys are going to be used as whether they're going to come in relief because the Red Sox bullpen isn't as secure as the dodgers and that affects how they use them as starters in later later on in the series. So pitching, obviously, a big focus. But I would say these two teams more than what we've seen previously in this postseason are more traditional in terms of needing to rely on their starters to give them a nice long stretch before they go to the bullpen if they want to have success in this series, it's game one tonight. Dodgers and red sex. It'll be at seven pm eastern right here on ESPN radio. I wanna ask you, you're rooting for because I almost always when my team isn't in it, unless I hated team, I'm not going to say allowed any of the teams. I hate maybe able to figure it out down the line. If you're a regular Spain, Philis Murph, you listen real closely, but I don't eat either these teams and so I'm torn because I almost always root for the team with the longest drought because as a cubs fan, it was cool to have some people jump on our bandwagon and say, it'd be cool for you guys to win that felt nice to have people wanting us to succeed. But in the case of the Red Sox, I would also feel terrible for a team to be as dominant as they were all year to rack up those one hundred and eight wins to coast to the postseason and then get to the finals and not pull it off. So I'm kind of torn. I'm torn on this too, but for much different reason, this all comes down to, frankly, Nashville zone. Mookie pets obviously plays for the Boston Red Sox. I wanna root for my guy, right? But Boston sports fans call, man, like you've had enough. Boston's point is enough enough for Boston sports fans in general. I feel like they reached that peak and. On the other side of it is like, then I look at it and say, you know away doesn't win anything, but they get California weather. That's an advantage. So ultimately, you know, starting to get cold in Connecticut, Sarah, I feel bad for Boston a deal with the cold weather. I'm back to Austin and says, it's that's not a real reason and Mukhi beds and cold weather. I feel for the people a momentum, the costumes better. That's what I'm going to root for that one color snap. Well, you know what? This is riveting analysis I'm giving I can't root against. I can't nationals Mukhi bets. That's all I'm saying is just such a cool name to those guys. There's more to come from our baseball guy, Jason Fitz. So don't go in rooting for. I mean, that doesn't have to be rooted in any sort of, like I say for the raiders never any good. So you can hear your team come on ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance, small business protection, just got easier with more than thirty coverage options available, progressive. Has you covered more progressivecommercial dot com. Straight ahead. The complicated future of Eli manning and would shedding a tear caused a quarterback to lose. A locker room Alaska STN's Dan, lofty ski next Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, Spain, and Fitz. Gyco presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event of football, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows broken was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in survival mode. 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Once again had us asking a question around the horn that I wanted to post viewed in, which is, is it possible to play yourself out of the hall of fame? And I'm speaking, of course. Wanna question probably not, you know, every at the end of their especially that spot because it's always under the microscope, goes through that period. At least that we know. I mean, listen painting his last year. If you can remember at the end was, was it sell himself? There was times, I mean, the argument that the Super Bowl in many ways was one, you know, overcoming some of his age stuff that was going on, and we're going to be in the hall of fame. He said too strong of a career in credible market one to she goes the phone, so he'll be in it. But golly, he looked. He looked. Bad unprepared shocked by what's going on in the field mentally behind between guys. I mean, there was a couple of facts last night where Odell is literally uncovered on on like shallows that are hot routes for their offense. So you just looks like we hear it all the time, right? That game is passing him by by the day, and that's set in total respect for his career. Just the game has completely passed him by. So what do you do then? Dan, I, if you're the giants, what do you do at that point? Well where they are right now, if I'm being honest with you, I just ride out. He lie. I, I turn this into his his appreciation months. You know, his Derek jeeter final lap around New York City because New York City he he has handled it incredibly well as good as any pro athlete there. And you just understand where you guys are organization. I would not bench him. I don't think that's the right thing to do. I think you'll lose players and I think you lose fans that's incredibly loyal cities. Everybody knows so where you are right now, you continue to play games. You understand and you're very honest about it. I would if I were them, I would move some park or whaling to give you some perks and you'll have long term for those guys on your team. And then you know, continue to allow allied to have his, you know, kind of. Fading off into the sunset year because that's what it certainly presents itself to be checking the SPN standard Lobski on the shell Pennzoil performance line at Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. I saw you tweet and on Sunday that if you're deck Prescott you walk up to Jason Garrett and asked him whether the way he called the end of that game is an indication of whether or not he believes in his quarterback. Do you believe in deck Prescott as the future for this cowboy seen from what you've what you've seen a Goan. I've been talking about that the is solid quarterback couple of things for me with that one, I believe two thousand sixteen. We'll be the worst thing that ever happened to Dak Prescott because he came into the NFL and was thrust into the position of being the starter, and he did so with an offensive line that was literally one of the best we've seen maybe ever in in the conversation of performance wise. I mean, he was a Ford. It could be in the pocket and not you'll pressure to not have to get through concepts. Don't have to get through progression to not have to make. Blink of an eye decisions on a consistent basis because the offensive line was so good, and they didn't feel a lot of pressure because people knew don't let them they pick it up. They had an incredible run game. So a lot of stuff that they saw was not what I call commonplace in the NFL. And so he goes to that rookie year and you can only imagine you're thinking, okay, that's not that bad, but that's going to be. I'm not forced quarterbacks, make bad decisions when the when we're forced to make the decision before we're ready for it. And so now what we're seeing Jack is he doesn't see within dissipation. He doesn't throw guys open. He doesn't get through progressions about it takes him longer, and that's because partly he came into the NFL and had an unrealistic experiences rookie and that's what's showing up on tape. And I truly believe that is going to be one of the worst things that happened to him. Now I. Felt like he played pretty good on Sunday. If you watch the tape, he misthrows. Yeah, of course everybody does. But in that moment, the way that was handled by Jason gear, right? A lot of respect for once that ball, it's completed to Beasley at the thirty seven yard line with like four eight seconds left the number one thing. There's a play caller. The number one thing that should go through your mind is the defense is going to come after me right now because I'm in field goal range and they wanna knock me out of field goal range. Sure enough. The Redskins blitzed and played man. They accomplish during quick game. That's all. I need to know that there's there. You weren't prepared for that moment and then you handled it incorrectly. And if I'm deck, I gotta go head coach, listen if I'm gonna be your dude. You got treat me like your guy. And if you're going to sit on the podium and tell people, I'm the franchise quarterback and I'm the future and all this stuff in in that moment you have to give me go in the ball game. And so that I, I'd have to have a very fair conversation. So Dan, you've watched enough adak and you watch enough of Amari Cooper, what's a reasonable expectation for how long it'll take the two of them to jail and get any timing. Yeah, couple of weeks for sure. You know, I know that system that not incredibly complicated. You know, I, I say when they traded for Mark Cooper, I see both sides of it and I see benefits for both organizations. I is it a steep price of course, but my thought process is this one, Scotland hands. The Cowboys off into Cornelio does back when he has a big body athletic vertical speed guy. Now that was Randy moss in Minnesota. That was Calvin Detroit, and that was really on in Dallas. I'm not saying Amari Cooper, those guys, I'm saying that kind of guy. That's the kind of player they've missed and so it will. I, I only suspect that it's going to help their play caller because his offense is in creative offense is, hey, if you've got that receiver, one on one, we're gonna throw in three or four cities really good at. That's simple, but that's fine. If the guy's better than the other guys recess my guys better than yours. So I believe that's going to help their often. It'll take a couple of weeks for them to get in. The into the mode. I said this yesterday and we'll show. I also believe that there's a, there's an angle that the Cowboys made this trait because they gotta make a decision on Dez or Jack, and they haven't given deck the appropriate weapons to really get a gauge on. Okay. Is he our guy? And so now that they've given him a better weapon, whether we think he's the nets coming of Michael Irvin or the guy thinks, but they believe that gave him a better weapon. And so they can use this really as a good two months to figure out if that's play improves. Now we know, okay, we feel comfortable before with him. If Jack Sprague doesn't get better than the questions are still going to remain. Dan were Lobski ESPN NFL analyst, Sarah Spain, and Jason Fitz on ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. So we're hearing story now about Derek Carr, maybe did here, didn't he cry? And is that maybe the straw that broke the camel's back for him to lose the respect of locker room? So I ask you based on your experiences and locker rooms. Can you see guys losing respect for a teammate because of a clip of him potentially crying. Well, depends on your locker room and who you are. Can I see it? Absolutely a guy that they already liked and respected or a guy that they didn't like already. I'm sorry, does it matter if they liked and respected him and then he cried or if they didn't like him already and then they can use that as sort of the the tipping point? Sure, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, if if they're guy is a guy that question him from the beginning and you don't believe in him and this and that, that's just another. That's almost like the final straw. I don't find that to be there at car on their car as proven that he is a tough dude. He comes off as a tough dude, so I don't know how much truth there is to it, to be honest with you, if Derek Carr cried, I wouldn't be like, yeah. I get it. I get it some football game emotional game. I'm sure there's a lot of things. There's a physically motion tied to it. There's a a frustration emotion tied to it. There is a disappointment emotion tied to it. So if he did, then I was in that locker my bag, I get it. So let's move forward. I've seen guys cry before I've seen guys cry from hitch. I've seen grasp guy cry from moment. I've done both of them. They're these football players are crazy tough and crazy strong and different breed, but they're still, you know, we always heard people. I, I can't imagine people in that locker room questioning him from what I do know about him. And from what I do see on tape do tough. And so I don't know if you did or not, you know, went up. You can absolutely find situations where guys will find that use that against the player and, and you know. Locker rooms are like society. They get quickly right? It gets like, and you can. You can get pockets to seven guys, and they starts here and you can. The leaders of those clicks can also ship the minds of everybody is well. If you're losing it, get it always, it's always worse. Exactly. Yeah. Locker room. Yeah, they thinks through time to appreciate it guys. Thanks, Dan loss key on the shell. Pennzoil performance line. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance was Shelby power. Nitro plus premium gasoline coming up. Are you worried about an Owen? Three start from the Lakers in Rasiah on Rondo still taking swings at Chris Paul, even though the fight ended on Saturday night. Here's what he said. We'll tell you next pain and Fitz on ESPN radio, Spain, and Fitz Spain and fits the Lakers are, oh, in three, there's chaos everywhere, and I don't think the fighting is anywhere near done. It Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty. Sarah Spain. Jason Fitz can lead you into game one of the World Series between the dodgers and Red Sox coming up at seven PM eastern on ESPN. Radio leaves a leaves me a little more time Sarah to learn how to turn on the correct microphone in the studio so far I'm over three on every single segment. I've managed to turn on the wrong Mike, so you're welcome America. The fighting is, you know, we talked about it yesterday. Everybody saw the fight between Chris Paul and Rondo and the Lakers, and as it sort of blew up. And we talked last night about the drama that happened in the stands afterwards, but the job was not done. I mean you, you knew that we were going to hear more about this, and there has been speculation according to some that Rajon Rondo actually spit on Chris Paul. And so- Rondo came out and and actually spoke out too. I was a little surprise at he came out and I was surprised that he came out and describe it so eloquently. I was also surprised that he he didn't back down from any of it and it actually made sense. Let me get some straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best work, still contracts. His part of his quote was everyone wants to believe, Chris, Paul is a good guy. They don't know. He's a horrible teammate. They don't know how he treats people look at what he did trying to get to the clippers locker room. Now that is some straight talk nationwide. Coverage on America's largest and most dependable, four g. LT networks, but it doesn't end there. He talks about his body language, his. Hands on his hips. The fact that if he had just spit on somebody, he would probably be in a position to, I don't know, defend himself because he'd be expected expecting a punch to the face. It all makes a lot of sense. Yeah, to be honest with you. When you watch the video, there's no denying that there is some sort of wet spittle like substance that comes out of his mouth, but it's not like when you spend on someone, you can hawk Lougee it's like this very mild little sort of sprinkle. Right, right. And what he says about not be, he did not have the body posture of someone who had to spend on someone nor the defensive posture of someone who's expecting some sort of re response to that spill. So whether or not he intended it though, to me, if you if you watch that and if you're the NBA you have to go off what you visually can prove and not off intent that somebody is explaining particularly after they've been suspended. Right? And so as much as Rondo can be hotheaded as much as there have been issues with him. He's also really interesting guy who a lot of teammates really like. So I think the big issue with both of these guys is they don't have a perfectly clean record. So it's really up to you who you feel like siding with on a given day. Well, and to me, this isn't as much about the punishment. That is what it is at this point. It's more about explaining yourself moving forward. And and if you've been accused of spitting on somebody, he also makes an interesting point that trying to spit with the mouthguard in is not the easiest thing to do. You know, it's not like to your helps or hurts his 'cause though, because I might have just been the best effort you could put forward with a mouth guard and even if it was intending to hawk a full on Lougee, but I can say is a man without getting into the full details of the story that during my twenty s when I was a little bit more rage induced and maybe a little more drunken in my life as hard as that is to believe, given how much I drank in Bristol at that point, my life, it is a fair accusation to me that I once got into a bit of a brawl with some people where I did spit on somebody and I'm telling you when you do that when you know you're doing that, you know it's about to go down. There is no two ways about it. You know before you do it, you say, okay, this is the moment where we are about to get into fisticuffs and you know that's going to happen. His body language to me doesn't say that at all. I think that is at least a fair point that you know if he's going to spit on somebody, you would think he would have put his hands up and said, let's get ready to rumble. Yeah. I mean, I do agree with you and nobody really reacted to it in a way other than Paul who felt it. Right, right. But what do you make. Of what he said about Chris. Paul being a bad guy, you know, obviously smart, obviously, a voice of the league in terms of running the NFL PA stuff. But you know him trying to get to the clippers locker room and him being known for maybe taking cheap shots on the court. Is that something we should be paying attention to? I think that we're at a spot where the brand of of Chris Paul, the businessman and the brand of Chris, Paul, sort of the the players union advocate, and what we know of him on that side sometimes allows us to forget things like he did go in the tunnels into the clippers, try trying to get into the clippers locker room. I mean, that is that is definitely not behavior that we would expect except from a lot of different players. So I think there is at least a fair point of, are we holding Chris Paul to maybe a different standard than we would hold some other players too well, and especially because he is traditionally on every list of the dirtiest players in the league. Remember the total cheap shot against Kevin Durant in the twig varies, and you know, there's been a lot of. Of footage where it looks as though he is intentionally going after people's groins. And so this might not be news for anybody else in the league, but it certainly makes it maybe more difficult for people in trying to pick a side. It also, you know, in the end, the suspensions have been handed down this back and forth as sort of meaningless they're going to be out for their teams for a little bit of a stretch, and it is sort of maybe more meaningful for the Lakers in that even though Chris Ball, isn't it really important part of the rockets he's been established as the leader there. Part of this new crew of veterans that Rondo is, I don't know if it's the best foot for them to get on, especially with the Lakers being three, and it's going to be an interesting piece to keep an eye on when the Lakers play the rockets. Again, we'll is on that while the guys are getting a little relief. They're probably using some theraworx brought. We're brought to you by theraworx relief to experience relief from muscle cramps in your legs and feet use theraworx relief, fast, acting foam, get theraworx relief today in the pain relief vile at your local pharmacy or. At relief dot com. Straight ahead. We head to Fenway ESPN's BUSTER only gets us ready for game. One of the World Series next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, Spain, and Fitz, Spain, and Fitz infants on ESPN radio, the ESPN app siriusxm channel eighty. Sarah Spain, Jason Fitz. We're gonna lead you into game one of the World Series between the dodgers and Red Sox coming up tonight. Seven PM eastern on ESPN radio ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. Your thoughts always welcome. Especially a really only when you agree with us on the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter feed at sarahspain at Spain. Him fits at Jason Fitz and we're going to go straight to the show Pennzoil performance line. We're ESPN's BUSTER only joins us BUSTER. Let's start playing meteorologists here. What's the weather? Like at this point, it's been crazy this afternoon about two hours ago, a tornado. I saw video of it on the local news touchdown, just south of here. They were tornado warnings. There was no batting practice. And then suddenly the sun burst through for about forty minutes, and now the field is covered with a tarp. It is pouring rain, and we're seeing lightning out here wouldn't surprise me if the start of the game was delayed so BUSTER, would that being said, what effect will the weather have on the actual game tonight? Near mind? Yeah, and I think it's going to be a factor tonight and tomorrow because in conditions like these, where it's kinda chilly and tomorrow it's going to be even colder for pitchers. It's a challenge. They have a difficult time gripping the ball for breaking stuff, and you hear it all the time. That when it gets cold and October, that's that's the great thing that pitcher struggle with and look spoiler alert you will see foreign substances in the juicy broadcast from here, everyone's gonna know it. There's going to be sunscreen. There's going to be pine tar. There's going to be all stuff on on the bodies. These pitchers both managers will know it. All the pirates will know it. All the players will know it and I've had a hitters. Tell me the most recent member Martine Maldonado last series. Eddie. He said, look, I'd rather the pitchers know where the ball's going then be too cold to not be able to control what the throwing and that's the situation going to have here. Muster can Tori on the lookout for flying two by fours BUSTER, giving. Let's get the status of Chris sale heading into this one. It's a complete mystery. And I've noticed in the last week is that when he's asked questions about how you feeling, how's that shoulder doing? He doesn't actually directly answer the question gives answers like yesterday when he said, yeah, when I'm on the mound, I'm ready to go. Look, I talked to in the last twenty four hours talked to members of the Yankees organization. The Astros organization, of course face Chris, and they say they see a pitcher grinding through a major physical problem, and that's reflected in the velocity readings from him in his start for the Red Sox on August twelfth, the average ninety eight miles per hour. In this postseason we've seen him eighty nine to ninety one maybe bumping up a little bit from here, their pitch to pitch, but he just isn't the same in you do wonder at the end of the series, if you're going to hear something about the condition of his shoulder, and that's why everybody at the beginning of the game tonight will be watching the radar gun readings. In about his hospitalization, you guys saw his comment that it was a belly button ring vitamin the hospital. I always felt like the players are not obligated to tell us exactly what's wrong with them, and it's we're not obligated to believe what they tell us. And my guess is, is that whatever medication he was taking any flam Tories painkillers to make that starting game one against the Astros totally torpor stomach. And that's why one up in the hospital. I don't know that but given how he's trying to grind through wouldn't be surprised. We're talking to ESPN's BUSTER only on the show penzo performance line BUSTER can the Red Sox win the series. If sale isn't himself. Yes. And they did that against the Astros. Right. I think the great surprise of this postseason has been their bullpen and how -ffective it's been. Before this game, I was talking with Brock hold and JD Martinez and Brock said who he got into series. And I said, well, I'm picking you guys, and he said, well, that's smart. And I said, well, I picked against you guys against the Yankees I picked against you gets the Astros said, I didn't think your bullpen would be this good if their bullpen continues to be affect as affected Ryan brazier, Joe Kelley. Other guys, stepping off David price throws the way he did against the Astros. Absolutely. They can win it because they have a superlative offense in their outfield defensive spectacular. ESPN's muster only on the shell Pennzoil performance line. And yes, that is thunder that is drowning out to Oregon on Fenway as we get ready for game one between the dodgers and red sock BUSTER. I went around the internet and I was looking at a variety of different experts opinions on where to give the edge in this series at each position. And for the most part, the dodgers got the nod more often than not even though most agreed it's pretty close call. I'm giving all the intangibles to the Red Sox. They're seven and two in this postseason. One hundred and eight wins. Am I crazy to think that even though there's some arrows pointing the dodgers way, this Red Sox team is really the one to be. Oh, absolutely. And you think about this, okay. If they go on and win the World Series, then they will have the second most wins in the regular season and postseason combined for any team that won the World Series. The second most in baseball history, the only team that will have one more those nine thousand nine hundred Yankees who won one hundred twenty five and look. This team is so confident and they're playing so well. And it's interesting I saw what you you mentioned about how people are giving sort of rating the teams evenly in position by position. I think one of the great x. factors when they play the games here in Fenway park, none of the dodgers have played an inning in this ballpark, which is like the miniature golf course of outfielder of outfields for people playing in it for the first time. And that requires a lot of experience that deal with how do you play the monster? How do you deal with the triangle in center field? How do you deal with the bullpens at our jutting out the pesky pole, there is great potential for a big mistake on the dodge. Outfield side in the series poster. Do you have a pick in this series? Are you leaning one direction or the other on who you think a win. Well, you know what? When he SPN dot com asked me for a pick. I didn't even turn went in because I felt so embarrassed. But in fact that take the Indians when the year started and then I was wrong every time with a Red Sox. If you put a gun to my head, I would pick the the Red Sox and five is I told Brock cold and he said, you know what? I wish you'd pitch a get picked against us given what you just told us. Well, if you guys don't like the pick, you don't tweet him, but if you like it, tweet him at bluster, underscore ESPN. I'm creating Twitter positively. BUSTER stay safe number one out there and try try to stay dry. We appreciate you. My friend. Thanks guys. Great to talk with you. I can't believe you Hugh the thunder in the background and limp dick. Ach elliptic. She's my husband last night who you rooting for it. He said neither said that's probably not going to happen. He's like, there's been some pretty serious storms lately. That's pretty dark, Brad, Gabby. Yes, no, I it. It is sort of alarming to see as as you see the shots on the TV from the stadium, it looks treacherous out there. It's going to be just hours ago. It looked like nighttime, I mean, and I'll be interested to see how the game plays out there. They're, they're even able to play what the rhythms going to beat throughout the course of the evening. What I do know is that we're, you know, we're going to give you more riveting baseball conversation about the course of the week. It'll be better than which uniforms. I liked the best. I promise. I don't promise to hold your breath. Are you making a pick? And I know you're rooting for him. Do you have a pick? Actually, I do have. I think the Red Sox either six or seven. I haven't decided yet, but I think the Red Sox for sure. I don't. I don't pick winners only pick losers. That's what's working for me right now. The dodgers they're going to lose the series. That's all I have to say. It's it's working for me. I say the dodgers lose us in sixth, the Red Sox have been the best team in baseball throughout the course of the year. I think we're just taking taking it for granted. We are back tomorrow. Never take that for granted. We're gonna lead you. Into game to that is if game one even gets underway tonight, we'll we'll see how that goes. Thanks for listening to the Spain and Fitz podcast. Listen to the show six to nine PM eastern on ESPN radio and subscribe to the podcast on the ESPN app, Spain and Fitz.

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Steelers Q&A: Do Steelers fans root for the AFC for the first time in over a decade?

Behind the Steel Curtain

38:26 min | 7 months ago

Steelers Q&A: Do Steelers fans root for the AFC for the first time in over a decade?

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That's not a quarterback but UH MR Derrick Henry although Patty mahomes him Jimmy Jay Leno Jimmy G. so so If those are living audio platform Brian was holding up. Literally the pictures of those players that mentioned so Let's talk a little bit about the Games today. The game earlier was Kansas City Tennessee. which in my opinion was way more entertaining Than the game that is currently currently going on or is the most wrapped up based on the fact that Tennessee was up at one point and they were running the ball. Well and I was saying to my dad. Who's in town man Dan? I don't know if Kansas City's stop the run and he said well Kansas City score so quick as easy as you think they would just have to force them to not be able to run but Derrick Derrick Henry and they they held Derrick Henry under one hundred yards in my right. That's correct. Yeah so they did the best job against him and I think they're very worthy of being the AFC represented in the Super Bowl. Brian what were your thoughts on the chiefs and Titans. Well exactly what Your Dad said they do. Do they score so fast and I was watching the game and I'm thinking all right they had a nine minute and six seconds drive and Roma Mel was talking about how you know if they do this in the in the second half. This game could be over quickly. But I'm thinking it's the chiefs in the home is so quick back in so fast to get that ball off. He could run around. He could be in trouble then. He's GonNa throw it long and he did. He did all of that. But when he ran for a touchdown and it was absolutely incredible to me. I mean just that when I think it was a thirty seven yard touchdown that he ran for it was a thing of beauty. I really think we're seeing being the next placeholder. The the guy that the when I say placeholder I think he's the next cover boy. He's your next Brady. We might be seeing a lot. OUGHTA him Williams said it on the. I think the standard is the standard this past week that he feels like he he meaning. Patrick Mahomes is the the the future in terms of what. NFL teams are going to be looking for when it comes to a quarterback size arm strength athleticism things like that day. They will be your thoughts on the early Game Naef C. Championship. My thoughts are some of the time is the best defense against the run is getting a big lead that your offense. It's doing the job for you can really help. Just take it out of the game. And it's what took them out. It's what took the run out of the game more in the second half than anything. was that the titans just had so much to come back from. Where if if not if it was a close game you still would've just been seeing accosted dose of Derrick Henry? So it was a fantastic game. It was points scored the it was a good game for you and In all I I do believe that the all around better team won but man titans had quite a run. Yes so David we do our picks. I I believe that Dave was hold on lands Williams's Chiming Lands I sent you the the email lands so check your email to won't the long wait on you. I send you a text message to so. Don't give me that. I was dreaming about this night Lance Sir Lancelot and his the is Richard. Gumy's anyways David. I make picks every week for the website behind a steel curtain dot com and I got the first game correct. I took the chiefs giving seven in the over day. I think he took the under my right. Oh no I took over for both games. got both of those right but did you. Didn't you take the titans getting side. I thought there was a chance to titans could cover with the seven but MM-HMM I. I didn't think they were going. I said in the live chat. I can't remember what show it was that I said if I was going to bet I would have put some a little bit of money on the titans on that money. Line to to see if they could be in upset model large amount but if I was going to put a big bet I would put for the titans to cover and if they coulda pulled off something at the end where they just got another scored they would have covered but it was a lot coach bureau cover than what people think and now you look at the NFC championship game. And according to the live chat the packers. I'm just going to get the fourteen points. That is a seven and a half spread. I took the packers getting seven and a half. So maybe if Aaron Rodgers can just throw another touchdown and all of a sudden I win that I took the under which I think. I've already lost that side of the So we'll see. But here's here's the the headline of the title of this episode. That I WANNA get your take on something. Dave said last week after the divisional round leading up to the conference championship and he said this in response to the fact that the Baltimore Ravens and Wang Harbaugh or one and done in the playoffs. I just have to say that again because it just feels so good you know just rolls off the tip of your tongue not weighing horrible. I hate that guy but just the fact that the ravens were one and done in the playoffs so the one and done ravens they get that one game and they lost they lost to the titans. Derrick Henry ran in all over him anyways Dave said now we can finally root for the AFC in the Super Bowl and especially said after the Patriots lost two so guys do you feel some allegiance to the AFC. Will you feel like you should be rooting for the cheese. Because they're part of the American football conference or assuming that the forty niners win this game. Will you have a reason to view road the other way. What are your thoughts Brian? You know and I I don't subscribe to that I I typically do not have to Root for the conference at my teams in because a lot of their persecutors Well then being their main persecutors but a lot of prosecutors are in the same conference This year I am not decided. I've I'm not so sure. I'm not a big Andy Reid van and I'm probably probably in the minority with that. He's just not my favorite just for a few things that that happened along the way that that suck up game back in two thousand also some things that happened with the eagles. I'm just not a fan of this guy. I don't want him to get a ring but but I like I said I most people will want to see him get a ring and I have no problem with that. I'm also one of those guys that I don't care if the forty niners get six rings and die the steelers because the thing with that is that's on the steelers the steelers job we get seven. That record has already been tied so they don't stand alone anyways ace because the patriots are now in equation. So I really don't have a problem with the With the forty niners there in fact if you hate the Patriots you Kinda went Jimmy Garoppolo to win this game and as a nice little Double middle figure two As as a little middle finger to a bill belichick So we'll have been said I don't have a problem with it. I don't know who I'M GONNA drive. We have we have breaking news. A forty niners just threw a pass. Oh pleaded Jordan game wasn't completed Georgetown. Was it it was a long way to kill. Oh yeah at least twenty yards okay. Sedate sorry just having thrown the ball game. I'm sorry I had to say that has let me do Read the All about my daughter was on the show yesterday. And the preview Myself Nick me you know and She picked the Super Bowl and Based on their faces the main players that we brought up their faces and And there looks which look something that I've taught her. It's like we don't base you. Don't go to the book by the cover we don't but she was just like she'd looked at Aaron Rodgers. She's like his eyes are creepy. I was watching every single one of those the first thing she did was like. Oh I don't like this something funny I mean but my favorite was pat. Mahomes hair looks like noodles. That's true so that's so it looks like it's going to be a a a forty niners. Forty nine or Steve Super Bowl because of Jillian. So we'll have to have her on the preview right before the Super Bowl and I see what her thoughts are if that's okay But it was it was. It's interesting to have her on the show. I don't know if we're going to get that through again. What about you dave not? I didn't answer the question. Yes no go ahead and answer the question regards to D- feel allegiance to refrain. AFC team the Super Bowl. I don't necessarily feel an allegiance to root for AFC team. I'm I'm just. I'm more happy to be rooting for a team to win rather than for another team to lose. That's that's the biggest thing for me as it is that it seems like I've constantly been having to root for one team because I was more because I wanted another team to lose. I don't feel like I have that right now. I'm kind of like Brian I. It's the forty niners. Get to six. They get the six. Because it's not like the steelers are sitting there by themselves so for now I don't have to worry about it. I I can just sit back and say well. I want this team to win but if it doesn't happen it's not a big deal. Yeah absolutely now for mead need I wrote a letter from the editor. I met him in two weeks ago. And it was how convoluted I am. And how I root in certain Games Joan of all the steelers and this goes down to individuals so a lot of people say well. I have no problem with cheese and there are certain people on the cheese that I don't have a problem with. I don't have a problem with Patrick Mahomes. I think he's a good quarterback. I think he's got a good head on his shoulders like Brian said. I'm not a huge Andy Reid Fan. He wears he looks like The KOOL aid man on the sideline And still since two thousand thirteen. I've hated his guts. I almost hated him. More than Ryan suck up because of the way he handled the situation anyways so not a big Gandhi read fan route. That can not stand Travis Kelsey after his whining and crying after the steelers. And oh my gosh the footlocker walk arrest. You Reek of a poor sport and I really don't like his brother either in Philadelphia. Did me the Kelsey by this could just go off and do something different. That'd be fantastic So there's the more I talk about it the more I feel like I'm going to be rooting against the chiefs because I don't like those people that I just mentioned in San Francisco. That's good go ahead. What about Tyreek Hill? I'm Jillian Weinberger boosted the impact. 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These are the stories that will help us understand what might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years. Subscribe to the impact on Apple. PODCAST or your favorite podcast APP to get new episodes now. Oh well it's hard to like. It is hard to like that guy and I was really disappointed in the chiefs when they gave them big old contracting like manner serious. Really I get it I get it trust me I get it. The steelers have done it before but at the same time natinal now on the other side of the docket of the forty niners continue to on their current path representative representing the NFC. I really don't have a problem with the forty niners except for Richard Sherman Richard Sherman in his whole us. He's picking A. I understand that sometimes. I don't understand this. I've never felt that you should need extra extra motivation as a professional. He seems like a guy that needs extra motivation. If you watch this press conference he's trying to find stuff. You doubted us. Bub Like no one's doubting each of the top team in the NFC. What are you talking about man? Calm yourself down. A you basically seem like you're someone that can't get up for a game on your own. And so you have to try to find other ways to get up for a game in. So I never liked Richard Sherman. I didn't like how he manhandled. Antonio Brown on the steelers played in Seattle years ago. We'll never was called That's how my that's how my mind works a case. If for me right now is the way I'm talking about. It might be rooting for the forty. Niners is a super bowl. So we'll see how that goes but that's just me. I know that Brian's got a mind like that. I'm not sure Adele Davis like days. Probably looking at the weather forecast and which way wind's blowing and doing I'm very. I'm the odd man out here because I actually like eighty. Rita's a coach. I think he's a very good coach while Are you can you be a really good coach. Never win the big game. Yeah really yeah. I've I've I've said before I felt that. Are Andy Reid. It would be tough for him to get to a super bowl because I feel like he gets his players to overperform and therefore heat has mediocre teams that That do well. And therefore they're never drafting at the top of the draft. I mean if you wouldn't have moved up to to get by homes. He'd still be in that middle wasteland. Because does it's a constant thing of then then players moving on. That's just my opinion. I might be completely off base there. I just always felt that he's done a pretty good job job So what would I would might see them over. Let's roll with every let. Let's roll this second. Brian can you be a great coach coach in never win the big game yes. UK You guys have other than hardly Bihar other than Marv Levy. Can you think of anyone else. I'm thinking Mardi Ball gives Marty ball did for meal Dick from your one at all. Though he he wanted with the rams one Dan Reeves never one one. I thought he was a pretty solid coach. These guys are just every other you know. They're above average in my opinion. But they're not great not great but now he's he's fine. But but MARV Levy I mean what he may get four straight super bowls for straight lost them all you know however I I would think that if that kick goes in and that First Super Bowl Super Bowl twenty five that wide right Scott Norwood. They probably win too. Isn't that the same footage used in ace Ventura for the Ravens will kick off take. It was back when you see the ball in the air and you see the officials noticed I I think that's the raging. Go Kick Laces Trivia buying you think I think we had someone asked me about this about the suck up Patriot. Okay Chris boy data. I'm not sure Kris Boyd about out. How old you are? I don't know how long you've been following this year's closely but any steeler fan. That's old enough. Do you remember two thousand thirteen miles. A year that they started that season owned four in that own four seasons that owned for service capped off with that loss to the Minnesota Vikings in London. We talked about that on the previews this week and they come back. They battle their way back to eight and it was a scenario where guys how many. How many scenarios had had to fall in place for them to even be have a chance that presently one of our go say there was at least four different? Are you counting themselves to win. And they needed exit team. Because I was thinking I might have been five. It's four or five mangled her to beat the Ravens. I know that they did did they did because I was just there was four things that had to happen early and late right but andy he reads chiefs were already in the playoffs. They unlocked everything up. It can move anywhere and so we decided to sit basically his entire team against twenty one starters so he's playing his JD squad in holy cow holy cow. They're they're they're going to win. The game in the steelers are going to get into the playoffs and Ryan soccer. I believe is a forty three yard kick thought was forty two one. You're closer I'm I'm sorry Birdie. Yeah it's funny. You say that Brian Because you're the off the wall numbers Guy I've ever met in my life. Hey Jeff Year round I might be swinging by shelby over eight thirty four and so obviously Ryan suck up pushes the kick. I think he'd pushed right. I could be wrong Dave. You remember more than I do but I was listening to it on the radio so I couldn't tell you for sure Mrs is it in. May I was driving home from the steelers game. I always bad husband and father that day because we were at Busch Gardens Christmas holiday world or whatever and Busch Gardens and my my kids were really young at that time. Gush I mean they were I think they were Three and five and they were making this nice pottery stuff author making pottery and here I am watching the game on my phone and the whole time the whole game all I wanted to stay at my phone and watch the chiefs and chargers and my wife's like you can't continue to do that. It's pretty important. He told her it is the forest identity. One day we're going to have like a legitimate podcast platform and we're GONNA be talking about this day in. I need to watch this game game as we told her exactly. I wouldn't have said anything different. Actually I did know you know your name. Yeah Yeah it was just that guy so yeah I have one conversation with you because you were Pittsburgh stuff all the time all right. That's my boy. We're we're we're buddies by guy with with ninety kids and so I saw your son wearing a steeler. I can tell you the exact shirt earth because it was the steelers shirt with the with the head cutout so it looked like he was wearing the uniform because my son had that too. And I'm like all right. This is these. The people will be my friends. Someday I will make them be my friends. He pays me quite a bit of money to be as friends. So that's a good deal on offense so steeler fan the number seventy four. He brings up a good point and I should say they don't forget. Hit like button We've had a lot of people talk in the live. Chat here live on Youtube and in other ways he's like email but how can they can help the program. You can donate money to the program. That's how we got these nice microphones but using the super chat feature. You can obviously go down to the common almond bar to the right. There's little dollar sign. You can donate any amount of money district to the program. We appreciate that. I'm telling you we appreciate that if you don't want to do that. I understand that as well. Just thus hit the thumbs a button Videos comment on the videos. All that helps in the algorithm in obviously subscribed to the channel you can hit the bell senator notifications however you'd like whether it's email whether it's pushed buckner vacations that's up to you. Subscribe to the channel so that you don't miss any of our content because we are not going anywhere we are still going to provide with shows that we have been and maybe even a little bit more in the offseason. So we're not going anywhere we're GONNA be diving into the draft after the super bowl all that stuff so make sure you like the videos in subscribe subscribed the channel and if you're an audio listener Guys Brian this is right up your alley because you used to be radio I never forget Growing up is listen to the radio station. And I you have these you basically have these images in your brain of these people. Look like you've never seen them and then you see them in person you're like. Oh Wow. That's not what I expected like. I'm wondering if there's people that are listening in audio and they hear Jeff Department Dave's Goldfield Tony Deaf Ito Lance Williams at Bryant Heaves I wonder what the pictures in. Hey go to youtube search. Bt as radio you might be really disappointed. I have all is only for a long time and I didn't know what he looked like. We just met that for the first time I knew what he looked like. Did you ever have that when you're on the radio yes. So here's the funny thing when you are twenty nineteen twenty years old and you're working in the top forty radio station your hometown and you're working midnight to six. You read everything you could possibly read. You walked through the studio looking king of. Oh you're bored out of your mind and then it's like three o'clock in the morning in that phone lights up you're like hello and then it's like of course yes I'll play your Mariah Carey. Song went over but then understand your at nineteen twenty year old guy. And then there's there's a female voice on the other end ended. You're talking to him. 'cause you're just bored and they every single one that you have a conversation with they wanna know what you look like and I had a policy. I wasn't gonNA tell them Tom now back then I was. I was probably half the size of what I was. I am now I was probably about one hundred and forty pounds flowing flowing hair and so I would say you tell me what I look like and I would get to answers every time the first one would be well. You're probably about medium height eight dark hair Brown eyes and I'd be like yeah and could be and they'd be like the other ones would say say you're not blonde blue eyes six foot four and I'd be like absolutely but I knew some guys that would get dates on the on on they would get dates all the time in the radio but what they would do and I never did this I. I'm glad to say this. But they say meet me in this one spot and then they drive around if if she didn't look good they'd keep going like that's rotten. Don't do that so I was one of those guys I was actually very chivalrous with with the female callers enough of that too much not to get too much of a side to side bar here but I remember as a kid we used to listen to one hundred point five kiss. FM every morning as we got ready for school and there was a couple and they weren't always a couple but they started dating while they were doing the show together. They ended up getting married. And you're listening to all of this as the months Munson a years go by and I've sat in. I was sitting at the wheeling West Virginia Christmas parade in downtown Wheeling Down Main Street and all of a sudden. He's your gums this kiss. FM and the two names like. Oh my gosh. These people like I was devastated. Aw We're not listening to that. Oh my gosh. anyways I WANNA take a quick sidebar What we already saying in mentioned that we've had a lot a lot of really good content on the channel this weekend Friday night on Lance's you had said that he had Ian Wet stone who is a NFL salary cap guru? If you're someone that ever wanted to know a little bit more about the salary cap. I highly recommend you go back and listen to that. Show Brian provided a really good preview outside of his daughter. There's crazy predictions in Patrick. mahomes noodle air. Sorry I it's okay The Devil Devil's preview with with Nick Bellina Right. That's his name. It seems like a great guy never met him but Julia. Amen almost heaven Sudan. You have land provided a steelers burning question about why the steelers should lead by decree walk in not sign him as a franchise tag or any hinden. That tied in with what he talked about an IAN mentioned. How hey the steelers could solve a lot of their problems if they just lead budgetary walk and use that sixteen million elsewhere? Good option one to ask what you thought about that. Dave what are your thoughts. Yeah that's that's a decent possibility because of all the moves you're going to have to make some people like it's a no brainer to keep depre- well if you have to get rid of four or five guys just to keep one it might. It might not be the right equation in this year and especially because you we've all talked about how the new CBA will. We don't know what that's like. You can't stretch things out in. Let's be honest. Listen the second round you can still get a good pass rusher if you're trying to replace budget via the NFL draft. 'cause we all know that with free agency they're probably not gonNA be able to you go out and pay a top end pass. Rusher says you're looking in the NFL draft second round. I feel like you still get Brian. What are your thoughts? You know what I I think. That's a good call but there's a part of me looking at some guys like chick alot looking at some guys that you could get rid of and if if you're going to keep four or five nothing's and I can honestly say some of those You can clean up. You can clean up some guys get him Outta there and You could fill in your roster with guys at your draft as well If you do want to keep a guy like bud dupree free so there is. There's actually there's good ideas on both sides and Somebody Arielle seventy five just brought up. Let Oland who's our play. Hi I'm buds. Not Worth the trouble. But Hey they've been hanging around for a little while and when they play. It's not like it's magic yet. So you just don't know. Do you go with a known commodity or where do you do you see. What the where you fill in the blanks with they've done well with next x-men Up but you. Yeah absolutely This week coming up. There's a lot of. There's really not a lot of news coming. They'll be news. I'm sure this is probably GonNa hire a wide receiver coach but we get to prep for the pro bowl which what steelers are still playing in the pro bowl. TJ Wad pouncey backed out. Dave decastro had surgery on his ankle recently. That's reported so he's not playing. Is Your be there joey hayward pro so yeah so you have four guys the defense on the pro bowl and it's it was great to see the tweet from Joe Haden just saying I'm in a better naked paid. They get paid so I think I think he's a pride in being selected to what are the thoughts on the pro bowl. Dave that unfortunately just GonNa make me have to watch it so I have to report on stuff now because the biggest thing with the pro bowl is I wanNA watch it. I don't want to see anyone get hurt. Because it Ju- last year he left early with was a knee or was it wasn't any. I'll say it wasn't the same foot that then gave him problems. All this year was it. I don't remember we're sure yeah I think it was the he was in his on an interception to when he was making tackle when I wrote that article everyone kind of written me about. Oh my gosh. He's finally needed. Look fine on the sideline. He never came back in so That's always a concern. I remember when Sean Taylor Jack. The guy was under was a Brian. Lamb was yes. It was the bills. Punter he destroyed that guy and I. If I'm not mistaken I think drew brees got hurt once on a pro bowl really. I don't yeah that I'll never forget Shawn Taylor a gene Taylor in association with a Buddy of mine at the gym and he said Man. I don't remember much about Sean Taylor as well. His career was Sadly cut short and he's not good. Yeah he was really good. He's in but what does he like. He's a triple mowed. Every put together. He could hit like Paula Malo could cover like he was amazing And for a lot of fun to watch said that he Got How'd did you guys fixed a pro bowl if you could. I have my thoughts but I want to hear your guys. I think it's time to end the pro bowl really. I don't I don't think you should get paid on being selected as an all pro our second team all pro I think. That's where your incentive strip lie. I really I mean some of these guys you're seeing guys haven't been voted in and and are are getting now while other guys aren't showing up the the the Nhl is doing something interesting they are suspending. You A game. If you don't play Ovechkin and flurry will be suspended. One game after the break. Because they're just not going going It used to be the this game was the copper right after the Super Bowl am I always liked it after the super bowl. That means everybody eighty four to play played in. Here's the thing you got this trip to Hawaii to take your friends and family and it was a nice capper to the season for everybody and something they look forward to. I don't think they look forward to Orlando or I mean you still. You have Disney for the kids. And that's great but I mean you don't look for to Atlanta. I mean or Miami Amy for Super Bowl. It's just not something. That's that's exciting so I just don't even think it's necessary anymore especially when you could get somebody hurt so I just don't know how to fix it these guys are there phoning it in during during the The not the skills. I'm sorry the skills challenges but here's something you guys don't remember you probably don't nineteen eighty-eight the Patriots have a rookie. Then John Stevens and Stevens. This was a really one of the best rookie rang backs that year. And what happened is at the proble. They had something they had like a beach. Football game where you played in the sand. And he tore his he tours Me Up and never played again so it was one of those things is. It's just I hate to get rid of stuff like that but I just don't see any value in anymore. What about you? Dave I think steeler fan seventy four. I said it best. There's no way to make the pro relevant relevant relevant. No it's the only all star game after the season in everything gals and everything else. So here's my theory turned it into a flag football game. The just have vetted just be fun. Don't tackle anybody trying to remember what it is anyway up. So if no one's going to tackle than why tackle put flags on them play Klay Two hands. I don't care I always said that. Let's bring some legends back in your longman eligible. I says I've if you're gonNA Brian's route say screw would break back like the quarterback challenge number that those were on TV with the blue. The blue. Chalk those I've watched those all the time they. I love great but it turns out as as as we are chatting here. The San Francisco Forty niners Richard Sherman. My buddy he just had an interception sealing the game looks like the forty niners in the cheese official. Although it's crazy that I got an email this was in the fourth quarter going into the fourth. Quarter her some vegas books. Were already putting lines out. So I've seen a lot of the chiefs giving one I seen the chiefs giving three. The chiefs are favored word in this match up. It's going to be interesting Dave. You're pumping your fist. What's going on because I moved back ahead to take the lead and win our fans very good very good good for you this year? Awful so I was. I thought I was doing well. That monster thing but I I was way back in fourth place I so I didn't even get anything all right. So real quick early predict Early thoughts on the Super Bowl. Quick quick thoughts. Brian go ahead. It's going to be a fantastic game. I love great offense against a great defense solid offense on the forty niners side too old guard. As far as coach on the Kansas City side against a An upstart Newark coach. That has a lot of respect already so like older versus New Guard in my last thought is. It's in Miami Mr Richard. Gumy's is GonNa do something that's sure he could. What are you dave early thoughts on the Super Bowl like I like heaven even a couple of teams that have been there for a while? I mean it's been. I mean to San Francisco blocked a Baltimore however many years ago. That was not that many but they haven't been there too and other that haven't been there for a while Kansas City. It's been what since superbowl three since they've been there so so it's just. It's just good to see not to to brand new quarterbacks playing in the super bowl that's that's kind of Nice. Yeah very good. It's it should be a good game and that's what we all hope for a good competitive football game. I hope there's a little more offense than we had last year. Enough defense that. Both sides of the coin or satiated cheated after the Super Bowl and then we hit that long long offseason so enjoy it while last this championship weekend is over. There's one game left no not counting the pro bowl. There's one game left will be with you all the ways to make sure that that you stay tuned to behind the steel curtain dot com or your Pittsburgh steelers needs. Make sure you check out up Brian. Show on the new hair again. makes you check out the behind China's still curtain Youtube page go to YouTube dot com search. BTS's steelers radio as always. If you're on audio I tunes give us a good five star. Rating gives a good comment. We appreciate all of that. If you're on spotify follow US Google play saying thing. Don't Miss a show gentlemen. Thank you for your time. We appreciate it. It'd be enjoyed the game's today. Everyone one that's watching or listening. We will see you starting tomorrow with Brian. Well with a steelers hangover show with Tony. Make sure you check that out. We'll see you next week. I guess after the pro bowl that's gonNA suck but will be here. Take it easy. Everyone have done it.

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