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West Side Brewing And The Lager Revolution

CincyBrewcast

1:18:17 hr | 2 years ago

West Side Brewing And The Lager Revolution

"The style traditional styles brewed technically well and so the half is a great example of that and it's also not a giant the spicy clove kind of thing going on but what's a little bit different about ours is that we really try to drive the flavor over to that close traditional with a lot of things that and I don't even know if a lot of places aren't doing anymore there seems to be more and more places that are kind of throwing themselves back into that a little bit but have aisin's around town and I I want them all at the same time so that I can put them all next to each other because I when I first started getting into craft beer I didn't realize the amount of how many times on this show talk about the bureau but you guys have to mean made a bit of a name for yourself for kind of going look at westside brewing it's been feels like a really long time since I sat down here they'll show it was I think three which would have been like a whole lot of stuff that can go on there that I I think it would be illustrated about more powerfully for people if they try these things next to each other and see that difference from neither to start drinking some beer because that makes the conversation a whole lot easier you guys got me a nice flight here and I really WanNa start this way around it but we won't you've seen all side and we go to a lot of trouble in the Brew House to get it that way well it's getting to the point where there's I mean there are definitely if you really it's traditional German advising so it's about two-thirds wheat and the Grand Bill Gates that special yeast that gives it all the uh vendor here I'm James I'm a sales rep nine Colin Eber wonderful let's let's buddy and like this timely fashion but a lot has happened at the same time you guys have just settled into who you are and we'll dig into is are you guys go really hard into that yeah that's that's all you do but yeah well that's been our our main beer philosophy from doe is brewed take years ago on time it's becoming incredibly difficult to to make the rounds properly with the show and gets ever eleven percent roast monster so it's better to start a little bit on the lighter side so the half of is one of our core beers one of our bestsellers we'll go away today is also the release of your imperial stout in cans to and that's what I'm doing clicked on the show but if not that's what it is we talk about talk about Cincinnati Beer we drink cincinnati that's the more important part and this week we are back all of that but well it's run around everybody introduce themselves I we'll go this way around the table so we can hear your voice and Yeah I'm Adam I'm the taproom steinkellner they right yeah and so you know this big German heff of ice was what she kind of fell in love with because of that kind of banana side of things so then she started getting into if you want to start with because I'm dying to try we won't will start on this end with a half of them because sorry Haith vice them as we've been corrected example of it and it does go really hard into that that that that yeast side of things that I think people who fall in love with it fell in love with to me I think we're at the point is beer drinkers where people don't take it as seriously Mike at Maybe wheat beer I think that there's a lot of things that your mind can go to with that because a lot of people are familiar with different things as a wheat beer now they didn't read it very highly and they commented that it didn't have enough banana and was too too spicy and I just thought to myself yes example of it I had somebody email the other day wanting to know where they could get good year round beers around town and I said well you know the problem is a lot of places like you said an antibiotic just just the other day I saw somebody that had reviewed are half and that's a bad habit I'm trying to break reading but thank you start to pull out stuff like this for this this is exactly what I you know fell in love with about that but it's fresher it tastes about her this is this is awesome China crap on it for what it is and for those reasons it's still a valuable tool for some right and I guess I still there's you know and I hear more people at breweries that get angry with an untapped and the way people write things we pretty much try to have twelve seasonal so we're trying now put out a different seasonal can once a month and so right now a lot of people be at Blue Moon over on or whatever it may be think of this big kind of fruity side of things versus the clove e there's anything like I said we really go to a lot of work in the Brew House to kind of push the clothes and and feels and you know a lot of times we'll have customers come into the taproom one to the other one yeah I agree it seems like there aren't too many year round fs here in cincy local you know there's a lot of a lot of guys doing them as seasonal behind it you know also coming off of October fest you guys have one of the best pitching on shelves year round or is it more rotational kind of thing so we've got Four of our core beers that are in cans year round available bill that I that I follow on there that I I know like their taste and beer and their opinions on stuff and like I I may go to them for certain style versus another they're not real experience with craft like well I really like Blue Moon and that's when our bartenders eyes just light up because they know exactly what to serve this costumer to give them a pint of beer variants you can get on that that aside the same style of German by some from the banana to the clove and even some bubble gum things start to come out sometimes there's there's what time is the the half of is in the common these session IPA and the double idea in cans all year round and then for seasonals. I'm wrong maybe there are still people that will walk up to a shelf taproom and pick up your based off of untapped but I feel like we're we've turned that corner where people are familiar with what brewing that just in the summertime or wherever that may be like bud gave her a couple of other places too that have something like this year round him this is get a look at what I think about it and pick it up off shelves because they're still kind of novice beer drinkers and they're still new to it so I think it's as much as people last time the packaging is a new it's not new for you guys but it's a new thing since we were here last time talk about so you guys do you try to keep some of those warriors in v I think it's I've taught my head I want to about twenty bs on like that he doesn't WanNa can yeah it doesn't really have any hop presence as much for micro protection you like them they don't like the thing that's correct but I I still know people that have asked me to post beers drinking on untapped so maybe they can see person and not go to them for certain style because I know that like I don't know it's all in contact as weird so since we were here I just knew right then I'm like nailed it so yeah super happy data over it's fantastic it leans towards that side that I on instill Yes yes so twenty eighteen brewed forty five barrels can fifteen this year we brood ninety in canned Hannah's tax oh really nice spice character plus it was untapped so I'm assuming it was untapped I think so yeah so far I think I have three cans of it left in one of my beer fridges stashed in the back so that I don't drink them too quickly and Colin correct me if I'm wrong but we increase that production so everybody has talked for a really long time about how loggers are going to be the next big thing and craft beer you know feels like everybody's been saying but ours is corbiere year round can find anytime you guys packages one too right yep that's in cans four point nine percent ABC see that happening even here on the taproom side maybe or out there in the market or whatever it may be our loggers more popular or is it just this here though there is such a big wide spectrum of what that is to like in with something like October fest I didn't predict that at all it's it's one thing like with a double I thought it was going to be really straightforward but it was it was really difficult to have the best was one where that's that's one of the few years where I tasted it right out of the yeah and so and so that's that's okay for me like if they don't personally like that that's fine but that's exactly what we're trying to do at the beer so we'll let you know when people say and coming back here and I'm from Cleveland as blown away that there's a bock fest here like I was blown away I was blown away that we make a Schwartz fear and like what is so I I do now we're we're kind of in a little overlap we're still got Puerto out there on the shelves you can find porter all over town but as kind of phasing out the Schwartz fear is coming in did listen it was it was delicious it was we've we've talked about this a lot since then because I seem to have stopped at every place that had an October really gonna like my my wife when she got into better beer will says she went to school up and Miami in Oxford and there's Francis Francis Goner was always on tap into your doctor fest or Boxing Cincinnati we're really about I think it's a little I think Cincinnati thing I do I mean what in that for the last five years you know what are your thoughts on do you think I mean looking at the popularity of something like October fast or something there's so much variance in that based on what hops there are and how how double it something like that and so I anticipate that that's a hard one to pick the best one October fest thirty five and ran out we ran out of cans probably two weeks before October Mattie yeah absolutely criminally ran out a draft the and whatever the because that has become such a big thing if that's kind of pushing people back towards something else like it's almost like what craft beer drinkers trying to almost rebel against that thing because it's become so popular if that in one thing I'd I always love this caveat lactose strawberry WNBA on Nitro as whatever whatever we insert what you are looking for quality easy drinking beer anthony you can just go back and not even think about it it's almost wonder too if it's like because there are so many double lactose milkshake New England never were getting deep into the weeds about beer is that the untapped reviewer or the person waiting in line at four hundred fifty north is a tiny niche I said was not the best one but it's really really hard to and that kind of goes back there anything Morrison's investors available of what itself is a tiny niche of beer that's what's so crazy you know especially from the perspective of somebody like me you're like you guys where this is this is the world where like consumed gets a micro culture of this being in Cincinnati I also think that people are tending to to go away from these I don't know along people are going away from those so much as I mean because there's still a lot of burris doing those innovative and creative things very well but at the end of the day like you want by every every day you're you're surrounded by this craft beer and then take a step back and realize that the majority of people still walk into their grocery store and buy cases one of those where you want to take you know a couple of cans to a bottle share of those whereas you sit around Saturday around the house all day drink a beer watch football you just want some okay it ended and we had to hold back to have it we literally ran out of that beer in three and a half weeks so we probably could use another mother thirty barrel is what is popular or trendy like there's something about like kind of leaning against against that like a in the opposite direction if that makes any sense you basically have to walk in Cincinnati right who else is brewing blocks much less like every local brewery spent the last couple of years out west up job doing it and it's it's it's slowly trickling into that Chevy at space and then slowly going out so I don't know I mean you're what do you think that it almost an in some ways and hurts is not the right word but almost goes against you guys to be kind of out here in this island still I don't think that like this these are the only styles they're looking for obviously the common and a half so welcomes but there are several bottle shops we're we've done a really good job of establishing ourselves as a neighborhood breath you know we love to welcome people from all of the city but we live in Westwood and the majority downs that's another Cincinnati thing this east versus West thing let's super weird but there aren't tap room's in Cincinnati close to you our community is is different from the next neighborhood from the next neighborhood from the next one and between us and Chevy it there's not a lot of craft beer options we own this space so if that is our task is to educate the masses like we're doing a the customers coming into the taproom drinking the commoner the half that's that's like half of our sales or those two brands and you know those are people just look at yeah I'm the newest one here in this area this table so you've probably dealt with customers more than I have I have no customer interaction craft beer counts around town are undecided town that go through a lot of all those other beers as well it's I wouldn't and educating people I guess or even not educating I'd say yes and no so yes and no like mountain festival and are still some six packs floating around out there too overly I've seen all three on my shelves this week so that's all there I think one of the things with that is the people over here on this side of the town like having this brewery here but I also for a well-made refreshing beverage that they can come sit with their family or friends have three or four hours because it will allow alcohol and then and then go home right picture of what craft beer is because we have so many breweries but yet they're so spread out and people I think are starting to you've bud light and go home and put that in our fridge and that's what they drink and that's still the majority of people still the majority of our customers as well no we'll take that space but does that does that change kind of the way what people are used to when they come in here is there still like a something one of those places that have done their own dairy distinct micro community within the bigger picture how that changes from other ones I don't know how that how the how the crowd in a place like this or when they were opened a place like old firehouse do you think is different for you guys than it might be for somebody who has tap room's that are to their neighbors and things like that do you think that you guys have to cover more ground enough breweries but not so many that you could kind of go everywhere and and after kind of this boom kind of happened in Westwood where there aren't a lot of other breweries right around and again that's not even a fairly you think you guys are like maybe ten miles away for mad tree when you really break it Tober fest in the city of my opinion and if you go back to our show craft beer joe thinks it's the best one but you enjoy the beers well it's a it's being in a city like Cincinnati is such a strange kind of you think about it it's just a this is a neighborhood space and that's what we've wanted to make it feel like but you know we want people to come in from everywhere and call it naive to think that you know the drinkers over here uneducated but being the one of two spaces over here in this area and I mean thirteen Belo's still so far away from us kind of what we're doing here is there's a there's a lot of stuff coming into westwood couple in new restaurants new bars maybe a little a little theater that's coming in a lot of things that are coming here that's going to change the whole demographic of this area and so with that not only were education rise about about career but it will also rise with what they expect out of their beer where they expect other taproom and we are this staple in this community that is is alert drinkers or whatever it is and as they get into craft beer the aren't going towards the combination or the blonde or whatever they may be there maybe it's imperial stout that that's the WHO gravitate towards their their local spot for a while there and it preys shifted kind of right about the time you guys were were opening you know for a while there were uphill battle here than it is in Oakley well again it's probably the extremes of the broaden their horizon on what craft beer is very what's interesting to me to that I've seen so many people that are bud drinkers it is a jumping off point for them whether it's with their education whether I wanNA know what a common ale is like they come in here and they go what's that with you know in the in the last five years or so I think people are kind of gravitating more towards their local taproom more and more and more I'm just I'm curious the whitest thing you got or I should be more honest and say I do you have bud light and you know no we don't but let me tell you it had that's already being open to this conversation being ready for this conversation right that's the thing that that that I have such curiosity towards I'm sure it's more see kind of that that side of people's drinking preferences that they didn't know existed and I have found that those beers he come out fallish every year so nice kind of Ruby Red Color Ambrish Nice Whitehead on it asked the best case to do with someone who says I don't like beer because a lot of times those people who got handed lighted party or something you know they they know drinker we'll try this flanders red you know so I've found a lot of times if somebody that says they don't like beer at all those those way out there beers that are kind of roast and there I didn't taste like this or you know even even sour sometimes we like oh I really like I don't like beer I like red wine this is an ESPN or whatever may be there's just so weird weird mash up in that that kind of category right now there's a there's a lot of rooms pushing those different flavor profiles best ones not you know you don't want to hand them you know your breweries craft lager American like he was like Oh this tastes like beer I said Kinda look at you know if somebody walks in and says do you have bud light it's a very different question than what's the latest thing you have even that is already say what's the latest I think it's a question that Burris need to be very open to because as you've already stated most people are going to the grocery stores gas stations where they're taking home so it's a question that all breweries everybody in this industry needs to be very open to you know it W- and we can't when somebody comes in an asset we can't turn Turner is it and laugh at it something about something that's light refreshing that we didn't get you in there even that question alone and the two ways you just word I think a very very very interesting a lot of it a lot of it's the the snowball effect right is that once once you get that thing and you start to push it down the hill it's going to get bigger it's going to get bigger stronger faster and that's the American light lager they know that's all they know of beer and so I think this is what your tastes like right and so you hand them something that tastes like coffee and chocolate it's got a fair bit crystal Malt and therefore crystal malt sweetness it's got the say it's got that Nice really powerful sweetness that Kinda balances out the hops that are definitely still there but who really two really distinct things right instead of just you know mango Tandy Bango what is the the hatred that a lot of places have four crystal malls on a little bit yeah so read Ip a is kind of one of my white whales because it always sounds like such a good idea and then I'll try someone's and I'll be let down be too much at this point I just want something that's good and crisp and drinkable but still has some of that sweetness it's one of those flavors that you can find that you can tell it tonight the thing that's it go my God this is totally different from everything that I thought I loved and beer I like this it's really interesting apple fruit flavors and to me the way they interact with crystal mall almost terms from like a pineapple flavor Roma it's like a candy pineapple right so so I really want to try to nail down here we do this kind of seasonal so it'll be you wanna you WanNa get those different beers to those those folks let's jump into the the right idea here tell me about this one eric purpose but like when we when we first opened you know we had both like kind of normal strength IPA and WPA has are opening recipes right I remember when resilience came out everybody threw a fit because everybody hates crystal malls and does not really make beer it doesn't make it play this is this is definitely right on the track for me it's definitely it's definitely an Ip when you try it it's got those hops front and center but then like I said it's as it finishes up it's got that that really nice sweetness that isn't like a fake kind of fruity sweetness like you get from some things and there it it adds sweetness you know it's not as formidable as other malts and I really want I just really want this. The sliver were homebrew recipes from the owners that they just wanted to run through no scale up run through these recipes wants and then we'll go start making changes and that WPA especially very kind of old school Ip to me like you know I'm not that I don't enjoy the New England's and things like that but it's it's gotten welcome back I'm the gnarly known this recast I'm assuming that you already knew that because he or anything we you know we got a point in the right direction and if they like that beer you know have another beer off of that you can maybe send them in that direction too maybe so for you is it more a like a flavor issue instead of a process kind of thing yeah it's completely flavor I want the I don't want the Crystal Mall was a very 2005 WPA it had a big load crystal Maltin it presents and our sense to me I hate crystal and then I actually read Ip it's a very specific use though like I I'm using it for a very up and what I like about it is that to me the Crystal Mountain there you know those are those are some hops that definitely have some of those citrus double IPA now our session Ip a the session idea has a tiny bit of crystal but the WPA does not have a single a single grain of Crystal Mountain of a malt backbone just a hold up all the hops and the double Ip. I don't want sweetness I wanted to finish dry which is really tough especially a beer that big r w oranges cuts that bitterness perfectly. It's awesome it's got a Amarillo. Simcoe and equinox ops are the boil hops on the driver adapt bitterness there's there's a weird spectrum on when you talk about read as or amber or Red Hills or something I feel like there's a lot of places that are mixing those styles I've been really weird ways and they'll call something there amber ale and you try and Lagos the IFA or you know this is this is a kind of kind of the opposite and the session Ip it's got a little bit in there to help give it a little extra body which are ninety four point five percent it's tough to get a beer that AH is at nine point three percent it's tough to get a beer that big dry and if you add crystal malt you're only making your job harder there's in English and you figure yeah bigger everything bigger little higher alcohol more hot presence less I really long time I feel very under under appreciated and underrepresented in Cincinnati it's it's a that that kind of separates itself from each other if that makes sense especially when you you guys make all of those styles at some point or another from everything so this one is for its fearing another one of those styles that this is all that flavor but without all of that heaviness that you're talking about educating the masses right and this is an awesome beard who it was I mean it is to your point you say oh I don't like beer in close your eyes and you drink this is a lighter crisp drinkable purposeful I guess about things like that and we grew we grew an English IPA as a seasonal kind of in the spring and yes that beer is as malt presence. So yeah you know most most styles that have like an English pale or an American Pale you know you're going to amp up the hops and amp up the alcohol six weeks so so yeah you know it's a it's a dark beer in its obscure style you know a German word all generally and that's kind of general direction that sounds very American starving bigger let's keep going here incoming more understood now the maybe this is just my mind because of the people that I talked to but you're seeing more places kind of put it out and and people point six percent yeah yeah yeah this was this was the type of beer that got me to kind of fall in love with craft beer I think he very heavily is big doubles down to the session and everything in between and to give them all their own personality without them kind of blending together and that's you have to be very that are you know different types of ideas and so it's hard to you have to be very distinct about where each of those kind of fall and the worst of a cell as it sounds but if you think of it if if you take your American PA and maybe kind of changed a little bit and then just keep throwing more and more crystal malts into it eventually rusty kind of notes chocolate thing going on too but that big heavy I love it and this is is it was something that has the I guess the Darker Beers was what got me into it but they're heavier drink as many of them were is this as soon as you taste that first one ended up with what makes an English IP versus like an American So so as with most most styles if you eh and there's nothing like this was coming into a have this I was blown away packed full of like those bready dark beer but this is not like this is not the imperial stout this is the fighter site of dark beard has those great dark peer characteristics it was this was it last year for the first time last year and so you know of course it being lager brewed it and then it lager and then I'd it's not easy for everybody to pronounce of course it's not going to sell right and it turns out just went like hotcakes and so last year we ended up ruin as much of that as we did October fest this is a beer that I did not think would sell at all it Mike I I just needed something to keep my lager yeast going after October fest and so I- brewed one I think because those those traditional German beers are meant to be drinkable beers and I kind of nebulous term and thanks to the AB inbev it's crazy it's selling like hotcakes again already this year pricilla chilly goes a ton of fear has even that like this is not what I mean not being afraid of it like for so long like there was like us oh I don't I don't like dark beers and not understanding that this is not this is broke western we keep coming back to like you guys are seeing such growth on something like Schwartz in October fest why is that Happening Watch of it you know obviously draft only not expecting it to sell and it's sold it's all the fast any release we'd had at that point it was gone within like a week folks drink ability is forever tarnished right but I mean Germans Germans brew beer did they sit down and drink by the leader there has to be German word for drink ability this is do you think the growth that you guys are seeing on is kind of going back to that that that big crushable there and it is check me on the ABC it's like four four central. Yeah Yeah I mean it is perfect unbelievably success and so I I think I think that's part of it just the styles themselves are meant to be to have enough interesting flavors going on where you can I'm sure this is delicious with Chile wouldn't be my first pick when in my head like I'm eating jelly what do I need to pair with but it makes sense fits eight drinkers becoming more Demanding of things like that I I in my opinion I think it's one hundred percent on the burs Braxton as an example here in Cincinnati not loggers having a big thing of been a big thing of who they are from the beginning but if anybody has to be put people were almost like rebelling against lager and it was like that was that was that's the that's the Budweiser and whatever else and now we see that it gets its it's crazy to me that places like that are are logging beer win for so long you didn't need to a lot of and as for why brewers kind of choosing the lager now I don't know that a ton of them really are I mean I guess maybe uh to make this all work and I I don't know if it's a if it's a breweries being able to or be willing to or for for that specific example though I think that's part of their brand right like they can't they can't kill fuel I mean they I don't know is more prevalent but you still see breweries that have the time and the resources brew October Fest on Ale Yeast Yes but then you see places you know als is that they're they're interesting and approachable but why and maybe it's not maybe it's just that maybe it's just the breweries other stuff to dedicate one of those are a couple of those tanks to something like October fuel or whatever it may be like that that's crazy to me that were doing that the leader and it not get boring by the end but also appropriate alcohol content and everything else that you can drink a liter of it and so I think that's one one big part of the popularity of those what beer drinkers are but that does kind of go back to that a quote unquote normal beer when you think beer we're really tank tight and we're still such a young brewery you know just adding another tank is is not really option but you know shing tanks face at this point it's them right now because of what they've got five or whatever else that they're they're making they are just turning over tanks with me our our whole brand is beer brew to style so you know we would be betraying that if we put out in October fest on East Z.. And full of fruit pulp or whatever else is popular right now it was like crystal clear beautiful beer that went down really easy getting able to to brew things that I feel like for a long time people just couldn't make loggers because they didn't have the space or they have the know-how or whatever it may be in Cincinnati but dude I think I would like a hellas or something after that and so you know I had this Hellas going and the sales team comes back my rory Outta Schwartzman wasn't going to be out of more I think there's a such thing as an ugly beer and I've seen also sometimes they taste great but when they look like that and was flavorful and we're recording this kind of in our warehouse area and that is our d e filter I love that though the beer comes getting put out in ten days from from brewed Ada package you know are you going to do for those or are you going to do a logger so it's a real it's a real value question a little bit but the innovation and creativity and craft beer is one of my favorite things about it and you can see that market has gone is that you guys were also kind of head with the the common man's brewery a lot when you guys were opening up which I hate I hate that term I hate the what that supposedly means about out lake especially something like even even take the half of them you know something that does have some cloudiness or whatever is to it when you sit out in the sun floated in the last couple of years in the grand scheme of everything and so now I think that needle is finding its spot in the middle where people are like okay I love that you can you can have in in its masses and I think that the after the craft beer industry while it's not new has awesome there's be yeast protein or whatever they say it is it looks horrible and it's not appetizer water it makes me wish I hadn't poured it in and they killed twisted bid on me and I love you know so whatever we could probably use a different example of them but the hold up a glass of beer in that sun comes through the beer and it's clear and you can see those that's a beautiful thing and I feel like we lost a lot of that with what is popular okay that some of those big like pulpy beers that some people are doing can't be beautiful on their own I you know I'm not I'm not shitting on anybody that is doing that too but they're still something about acid makes me wish I would have just kept drinking it out of the can so that I didn't have to look at it and that that's not what you're supposed to be that was you know that that's not what what pushed this whole thing forward influence it's Ohio so it's still a football town you know there's still people older now so you know there's lactose triple I could I have six of them no because we're in this little micro culture of Cincinnati that is Uber German because it's a real it's a real value question for the brewer very am I gonNa God if you can especially with these Ip as that are shows I have scheduled for the next couple of months who's going to give me shit about place for for all of them there's a market for all of these beers maybe clean them up the perfect beer like it fits all of those like if you want something that you can like poor and warm up and sit and sip on all night and you know Kinda saver but it's that drink ability is is sexy to the masses and then that is what I think is fueling this it could I think that they easily is as popular as as five as popular is something to be the storm or whatever it is I think they I think they could get away with it way more difficult to keep that growing at a rate that you wanted to grow up is there going to be a multi part question here needle has moved up and down you you move away from the American light lager and you go to the most opposite thing possible the strawberry lactose double triple idea and then eventually needles going to find his middle point back in right there and I think that middle point as as James said earlier is a drinkable flavorful beer the the area have one northern Kentucky as well we're trying to establish our stronghold as a regional brewery is there talk of expanding that what that means to self distribute or to team up with somebody else to kind of help spread acting and I don't know maybe maybe more crowded market it's a differentiation point maybe for for us here it's tough because we're can the bigger picture of of West side and who you guys are and how this whole thing is growing you talked about still being young brewery but you're you're hitting this point right view I still think you think lager I I don't know like I that's what beer always was it was something that was beautiful to look at it in a glass it wasn't he what does that mean in today's the Greater Cincinnati Area I mean first and foremost were a very for the west I I don't want to buy them very often I've I've had some some very popular beers here in town from some very big breweries and my it's the perfect beer I just decided you heard it here first billable and six packs so let's talk about So beautiful I didn't even filtered the Schwartz beer believe no it's black and you can't tell this is not the even further or where where we out on that side of wells we just hired another distribution salesman so now we have three candidates trajectory of the craft beer to finally kind of come down and be bloggers you know the more we talk about it the more I think about I think sports beers we want the entire region habit but really right now just this region so another sales rep has is helping US cover areas we weren't getting too ends of the spectrum so it's just you know we we gotta keep pounding our brand we a lot of our beers especially at restaurants or at Bard drinkable a lot of our beers are six percent or under to have that idea you can have multiple several of my accounts you know just just they are going to start getting more of our bureau right now what are the difficulties in a market likes I that was what a lot of thought that went into what does brewery is with our owners but we make great beer I mean there's a lot of healthy competition for for tapping space around the city because there are so many breweries doing so many great things from all the some some of the challenges are definitely because we are a traditional tudor style brewery and a lot of places are looking for you know what's that trendy beer like what can they get so what we decided tonight that's fine with that and a lot of that is being really strong with knowing who we are what our brand is what beers are and then educating that beer buyer and saying hey these are the types of beers our you're you've settled into who you are you guys are still self distributing right correct so I'm sure at some point that becomes in little bit more Schwartz Beer I want to be on this is going to James James would know a lot more about this than than I do I can tell you the name of a sales rep that can help you but our brand these these are our beers and educating the beer buyer on that I think is is a big big part of getting out there and getting them to stand behind us when they're facing their customers and I think our reps do a great job of acknowledging their accounts and what obviously since he's out there seeing it every day but no we talked about the education of the taproom customer I think really important part of our distribution business is educating the beer buyer hey this is dessert beer beer night a lot of that comes with acknowledging you know what your account is and what's going to work well for them and I think our sales team does Andrew half barrels and it's that's the thing to like if I'm going out to a bar where I'm going to be hanging out what I want to drink then over time you could do that with a glass of sports beer if you want something you can get kinda cold and get out in the sun and just pound it down it works for that too fanatic today to kind of explaining who west side is and who you guys how you kind of relate to everything else in the bigger picture mm side if you guys can answer that so so I'm the I'm the newest member of the family and then so since since my need you're going to be I'm not trying to sell an imperial half bill of inch out to a restaurant because I mean how many how many do you want says when I'm at home sitting Murray Kleiner watching whatever show actually this is a dark mick Stephen's or something like that but that's there but we make you know don't if if you're going to ask for you know a you know a mid western fruit tart I don't know going on soapbox that I don't need to be I mean you're in the right place so yeah I think about what focus right now as far as growth and evolution is put onto the distribution side versus the tapper whatever show it happens to be that I'm watching whatever that beer is it's in my glass there it's a very different type of beer too and like when I'm out I do want something that's a little more drinkable to account and somebody tries beer for the first time you know oh I didn't I mean I still encounter people on the west side that didn't know we exist two years later the region make sense but once people know you guys are you know then they you still have to have that kind of home based the taproom itself we are looking to expand that we're looking at two to always make things better we had a beautiful mural I think he's time here one I've been blown away with the sense of community here but in terms of growth as you didn't see a lot of loggers for a long time whereas now you do from places that you look at you like Oh my God he goes and making lagers like how how are you managing to taproom the revenue grow with the revenue growing the community will grow the educational grow everything will continue to grow and that will feed into the sales and then we will the job of acknowledging that as well how and this is I have to think of how to word this properly but how how James said we are we are focused on our community we're focused on getting the biggest footprint possible in Cincinnati and then as we get our stronghold we will we will continue to I think they're both tied directly into each other and you're trying to grow both constantly Obviously you know you get a beer in at an relatives and as much as we try to stay trendy it is a lot of that is is just that as a trend we will be consistent and giving amazing dear and like we just WanNa grow that little niche of the craft beer community is hey this is this is a moore you can get a great beer from and we want that all throughout I'm doing all the church festivals we do during the summer it's staggering the amount of people it W- you said we've we've established ourselves who we are what we do there's one one of our unique strengths and challenges is is the the Cincinnati parochialism at you know the East versus West thing it is leasing service that rooftop and still coming like we're still going to do that we were were dog friendly on Wednesdays we have a new food option seventy still bear cats cats cats the couch you're on the West from Cleveland so I had that right proud to send people there and say this is a really cool tapper manatt isn't that but that is evolving so fast and Cincinnati to from addio so it makes it hard though it's like you're you're so like you're you're being stretched and all these different directions on what is important in in a market like this out we might look to Indiana we might we might look other places but right now we're focused on on owning our space and what is to come in the Westwood Community Your customers drinking that with dinner you know that's a beer that goes to six barrel to a craft beer account you know where someone's coming up their joint or a six year old to a restaurant or bar you know really hard to get someone that lives in Columbia to ask them to drive past all those other breweries to come here so service our neighborhood and our neighbors first and foremost and make a good experience for them and that's that's one of the reasons why you know we're a craft brewery where you can come and get a bourbon on the rocks so eleven threes Levin Two I was close tell me the tell me that saw him in a beautiful mural that just went up new Palette thing we got we got couches coming in so we're we're always looking to improve and change the taproom with the he doesn't like it or husband maybe there's a drink or I don't know yes correct you know if if they're we want people to feel comfortable coming here in a group even crafter and so there's you know there's there's obviously both sides of that coin but I think that we've landed solidly on we want some of this will hopefully see in about a year as got a really great big body to it to which to me would play really well with a bourbon barrel that is a challenge on on the other side of the coin though is that all these people on the west side now don't have to drive to Columbia Tusk loan to get to again one of the things we're really driving for here at at less I is again that were that we've set a billion times drink ability and with our beer's what that means is generally almost bordering on a oatmeal stout kind of body like this is really good finishes higher finishes beer gets too far on the sweet side it kind of becomes coin you don't WanNa have another one although I don't know necessarily how many of these you WanNa have at one big big hit arose plenty of Malt sweetness and there to Kinda support everything but it's still finishes on the drier side and draft of this we've also got some soft away in a couple of new risk barrels that we will see other questions I was Gonna ask yeah we don't where everybody like there's and sixty places that people can go it's crazy sixty places on the west side down so I think I think that that option insider this by saying you know that becomes the thing that people are when they are going to tap room that is almost driving those decisions about which one they go to as much as the beer or week launch off I'm like you know so we're doing as much as we physically can't like I don't know what else we can do we don't have or some people in the group that aren't necessarily beer drinkers they still income here because it's a it's a neighborhood hang some kind of busy right yeah uh-huh being cans that makes it perfect so we've got we've got we've got cans four pack cans some of the the the thought process behind this year I mean I just big it's a big American imperial stout or the loss of and that's because we wanted to be a neighborhood place where if somebody's coming you know somebody's wife just doesn't drink beer this is probably the perfect amount right here for you know I I don't live depending on he asked I don't live on the west side for somebody like me who wants to come to this taproom this mouse uh-huh sprite it is great with breakfast and orange juice let's drink some imperial stout the complete opposite of percents have a ton of room for barrel storage air

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04:40 min | 3 months ago

NPR News: 06-24-2021 6PM ET

"Live from npr news. I'm jack speer. President biden is celebrating a bipartisan infrastructure. Agreement that includes nearly six hundred billion dollars in new spending when everything from rail roads and bridges to broadband and electric vehicles but then. Pr's tamra keith. Explains it remains unclear whether the measure s efficient support on capitol hill. The agreement is between a bipartisan group of senators and president biden but the deal will need sixty votes to pass and some progressive democrats say it compromises. Too much biden was asked whether he's sure it can pass. I don't have any guarantee but we do have a pretty good read over the years of how the congress and the senate works biden says a separate bill will move in tandem aimed at human infrastructure preschool community. College paid family leave and more refined like the devil to get that done. But it's not going to be with republican health. I'm going to get every democrat and do it through reconciliation if it gets done. There's no margin for error and keeping all democrats aligned. Could be tough timbre keith. Npr news dozens. Remain unaccounted for following the partial collapse of a twelve storey condo building outside miami early this morning. One hundred and two people are now accounted for. that's according to authorities there the collapse of part of the building at about one thirty. Am leaving people trapped in rubble and killing. at least one person. Rescuers were able to pull dozens of survivors from the collapsed tower. So not clear. What caused the ocean front building in the community of surf side to give way house speaker. Nancy pelosi is launching a select committee to investigate the january six insurrection at the us capitol npr's claw yogurt solace reports. The move comes nearly a month after the senate failed to approve a bipartisan commission. To investigate the siege speaker pelosi said she was sharing the news of a new select committee with great solemnity and sadness. It is imperative that we established a truce of that day and ensure that an attack of that kind cannot happen and that we root out the of at all she also said she hopes senate minority leader. Kevin mccarthy takes that into consideration when appointing members to the committee. The plan marks much more partisan route than a bipartisan commission. But pelosi said she was left with no choice after senate. Republicans blocked the move last month. Cloudy he saw this. Npr news washington lewis economy grew at a robust rate during the first three months of the year. Setting the stage for what economists hope the one of the strongest years for economic growth in decades commerce department today saying the gross domestic product. That's the total output of goods and services within u s borders was unchanged from the previous growth estimates rising a strong six point. Four percent economists believe the economy is growing even faster pace. During the april through. June quarter stocks gained ground on wall street. The dow three hundred and twenty two points. The nasdaq rose ninety. Seven points today. You're listening to npr news. The united states has sanctioned a chinese company that makes polysilicon material goes into manufacturing solar panels. Us said it's concerned. The company uses forced labor to mind the courts and other minerals used in production more from. Npr's emily fang. Nearly all the polysilicon for us panels comes from china and about half of the world's polysilicon comes from xinjiang. The western region in china or thirty detained hundreds of thousands of ethnic leakers over the last four years. Many detained workers have been assigned jobs in jong across china. That's led to fears at the polysilicon. Minden seen john could be the result of forced labor so the us government is now banning imports from a major polysilicon mine and sing junk leaving solar panel companies floundering to find new materials. The are ready bands. Cotton and tomatoes produced inching john from being imported to the us citing the same. Human rights. concerns emily chang. Npr news beijing buzzfeed says it will become a publicly traded company with an implied value of roughly one and a half billion dollars the media companies latest to take part in a deal with special purpose acquisition company or spac buzzfeed says it hopes the move will put it in a better position to capture lucrative ad dollars against bigger rivals like amazon facebook. Google founded in two thousand six media companies managed to establish itself as a serious contender in the news business winning a pulitzer for international reporting this year company. Also says it will buy complex networks. Brian and hers for about three hundred million dollars. Futures prices rose today up. Twenty two cents a barrel to settle at seventy three thirty barrel. I'm jack speer npr news.

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NPR News: 09-08-2021 8PM ET

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04:58 min | 2 weeks ago

NPR News: 09-08-2021 8PM ET

"This message comes from. Npr sponsor code for america who believes government can and should work well for everyone. Code for america works with governments and communities to build digital tools and services to meet today's challenges and push for a better tomorrow learn more at code for america dot org live from npr news in washington. I'm jack speer president biden tomorrow. We'll announce a six point plan intended to fight the delta varied of the corona virus which is quickly emerged as a mounting threat to both the nation's health an economy. What else press secretary. Jen psaki today. Touched on some aspects of the plans outlined the next phase in the in the fight against the virus that looks like including measures to work with the public and private sector building on the steps that we've already announced the steps taken over the last few months requiring more vaccinations boosting important testing measures and more Making it safer for kids to go to school. Latest effort to boost vaccinations against cove nineteen to also increase. Testing comes as the. Us death toll from cova now. Top six hundred fifty thousand with cases rising and some parts of the country hospitals in some areas that have low vaccination rates are running out of icu beds. Atlanta's centers for disease control and prevention is launching a partnership with the national service agency americorps to recruit and train the next generation of public health workers from member station w. Abc sam white has more. The corona virus pandemic has exposed major shortcomings in the nation's public health infrastructure. Money from the american rescue plan will fund a program. The two agencies are calling public health americorps. It looks to support as many as five thousand positions over the next five years and as part of a larger biden administration investment in the public. Health workforce nonprofits colleges and universities and local governments have until early november to apply for four hundred million dollars in grants to fund staff to work in public health departments responding to covert nineteen for npr news. I'm sam whitehead in atlanta louisiana. Health department has revoked. The license for the owner of seven nursing homes that evacuated residents to a warehouse during hurricane ida seven people have died as a result conditions in that facility. Npr's liz baker as more the owner. Bob dean is under investigation. After eight hundred forty three of his residence had to be rescued from an overcrowded unsafe warehouse where they had been brought to write out the hurricane. According to documents obtained by the times picayune and the advocate the state department of health had approved the warehouse evacuation although it is not clear how closely the department scrutinized the plant which allegedly describes the warehouse as an alternate care facility. Survivors describe something. Very different days of nightmarish conditions packed together on mattresses overwhelmed by squalor heat and stench. The state attorney general and the department of health have each launched investigations. Liz baker npr news region by region snapshot of the nation's economy put together by the federal reserve shows a slight downshift in the economy last month but increased concerns over new surge of corona virus cases. Information from the twelve areas of the country where. The fed has member bank showing. While was rising employment overall. Some areas continued to experience a labor shortage. The dow was down. Sixty eight points this is. Npr the chief. Justice of brazil's has he won't tolerate moves by the country's president to undermine the judiciary. Npr's philip reeve says political tensions. There are running high. This comes one day. After president zaia bolsonaro mobilized his supporters by staging. Several huge demonstrations a show of force partly aimed at the judiciary with whom he's long been in conflict addressing crowds in sao paulo bolsonaro laid into the supreme court saying he would refuse to obey the rulings of one judge in particular some of both nado supporters according to the court to be shut. Down brazil's chief justice lewis. Fuchs responded wednesday with a warning about what he called. The politics of chaos phuc said a head of state who encourages people to disregard court. Decisions is committing a crime that should be examined by congress. The court he said would not tolerate threats philip raves. Npr news british nato. The city of new orleans is now lifted a nightly curfew put in place after major power outages there due to hurricane ida which came ashore more than a week ago power company officials saying they're on track to have power restored in ninety percent of the city by later this evening but storm left the city in the dark and more than a million people without power when it came ashore as a powerful category four hurricane on august twenty ninth over tens of thousands or still in the dark with ninety six percent of utility customers in the states hardest hit communities still without electricity storm later claimed more than fifty lives in the northeast due to heavy rain and flooding good features. Prices closed higher today. Oil up ninety five cents a barrel sixty nine thirty barrel on the new york mercantile exchange. I'm jack speer. Npr news in washington.

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04:56 min | 2 months ago

NPR News: 07-28-2021 8PM ET

"This message comes from. npr sponsor. Xfinity fast reliable internet from xfinity can help people stay connected head to fini- dot com where you'll find plans to fit any budget with speeds up to a gig restrictions apply actual speeds are not guaranteed live from. Npr news in washington. I'm jack speer. The senate has voted tonight. Who move ahead with work. On a nearly one trillion dollar infrastructure improvement package the vote coming together after president biden and a group of senators reached agreement on a key part of the white house agenda in an interview with. Npr's all things considered transportation secretary pete. Buddha judge said the measures ambitious endeavor to boost the nation's infrastructure talking about the biggest dedicated funding for bridges that We've ever done. Since the eisenhower administration. The interstate system was set up in the first place. It's the most we've done for public transit federally ever in the history of the country. The most we done for passenger rail since the inception of amtrak what happens with the infrastructure package could also set the stage for the administration's even more ambitious three and a half trillion dollar spending package that includes money for childcare. Tax breaks and health care or it's also not clear whether enough senators will support final passage of either measure a massive wild fire burning in northern california has destroyed more than fifty structures including several homes in rural communities from member station k. Q. keith mizuguchi. Reports much of the structural damage. From the dixie fire is in the small rural communities of rich bar and indian falls. But cal. fire. Captain mike madel says crews have not been able to check many areas where the fire is more. Active damage inspectors. They go out as part of the damage inspect inspection team and those teams go in when it's safe to do so and they assess the totality of the damage each and every structure fire crews are taking advantage of cooler temperatures and even some light rain to slow the spread of the fire which has burned more than two hundred thousand acres but hotter drier conditions are forecast for much of the rest of this week for. Npr news keith. Itchy in san francisco. The defense department says everyone at military installations will have to return to wearing masks indoors if they are in areas with high kovic rates. Npr's greg myrie reports the military's following the latest guidelines set by the cdc military service members and others. Working or living at military facilities did not have to wear a mask in recent months if they were vaccinated but in a memo deputy defense secretary kathleen hicks said the defense department will follow the new. Cdc guidelines they call for indoor masking in places with substantial or high corona virus rates regardless of vaccination status the military has fared relatively well in combating cova fewer than thirty servicemembers have died from the virus out of an active duty and reserve force totaling. More than two million greg mary. Npr news washington makes close on wall street today. The dow dropped one hundred twenty seven points. The nasdaq was up one hundred and two points. The snp gained a fraction of a point. You're listening to npr. The by the administration is considering compensating. Fishing businesses whose harvest might be heard by the development of massive offshore wind. Projects remain public radio. Fred bevere reports. The fishing industry is concerned about the projects that they could harm fish populations and reduce safe access to fishing grounds last month. The governors of nine coastal states from maine to virginia called on biden's to lead a regional approach to offshore wind planning including efforts for mitigating negative effects on fisheries in later meeting first reported by reuters bureau of ocean energy management biologist. Brian hooker told regional fisheries managers that compensation models are under review bombs role in fisheries. Mitigation kind of writ large including compensatory. Mitigation is something that we're taking a very serious look at fishing businesses. Continue to worry that the government won't seriously consider their views on fair compensation for npr news. I'm fred bevere in portland. Maine fully vaccinated travelers from the. Us and much of europe can enter england now without quarantining starting next week. British government says people who've received bug doses of vaccine approved by the fda or the european medicines agency can take pre and post arrival tests instead of the solve. isolating over. france is alone exception to that rule with higher case rates. Their visits burglars. Britain from france will face quarantine crude oil futures. Prices gain ground today. Oil up sixty five cents a barrel to settle at seventy two thirty barrel in new york. I'm jack speer. Npr news in washington.

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Bluebird Monterey Pinot Noir 2016

The CheapWineFinder Podcast

11:44 min | 1 year ago

Bluebird Monterey Pinot Noir 2016

"Treat the she blindsided down skin coming from lockdown. Still doing good hope. You are too and got wind today. Got Nothing better to do. Though it's getting harder and harder to go out and find wines. I went to trader Joe's to try to check out that and they only allow thirty people in a store at a time and there was a line of about thirty people waiting. Which I didn't think was good is supposed to stay six feet apart not congregate and I duNNo. A lion is Canada elongated congregation. So I got the heck out of there and that was okay. End Up going to a grocery store Marianna which in Chicago's a kroger and just wandering around not knowing what to get not trying to get within succeeded people's house all over the place and I found an interesting wine We'll go to that second. It's the Bluebird Monterey County Pena Newark Twenty. Sixteen which I found fourteen ninety nine which is a very good wine and this is not your typical grocery store wine though as time goes on grocery store wines or anything but typical win there are certain lines you expect to see there but things are getting you know depending on the chain different and unusual some as a lot of fun and this is a I think an orphan wine they company Bluebird Quit doing All their social media they hadn't youtube videos esta Graham and facebook and twitter accounts and they quit posting in Twenty fifteen. This is a twenty sixteen of vintage so I don't know I guess they made it this far before it all went wrong or something or they decided not to or whatever reason and they seem to have had other winds in the past. There's some chardonnays I saw snowmobiler. No wire enough Santa Barbara Pinot Noir like this is Monterey and then in the I look on the back. Label says only fifty two barrels. And that's not a lot I think there's like three hundred fifteen thousand bottles for fifty two barrels. I think it is So it's kind of a smaller production wine and it says it's Gerry's vineyard a Gary's vineyards one the most popular one was famous Pinot Noir vineyards and all of California in Santa Lucia Highlands In Monterey kind of off the coast little bit in the Highlands. It's a very well regarded famous vineyard. I mean that's the only one they mentioned. And there's nothing else so I don't know all the stuff gave from Gary's vineyard. There's two Gary's Brazilian effort the other guy there's two families that have been in ever and they have been your holdings there and this is a wine leftover knit they only name they say is this. This is wines from Gary's Vineyard Sulphur. Fifty bucks at least I mean You know then you usually see the Gary's vineyard on the Front label united as we know wines expensive is when they start putting the vineyard location on the label the so this is a high and vineyard and this is not a high and why listed as any more. I don't think it's ever meant to be was supposed to be everyday wine and That's kind of cool. And what was doing a a Marrano slash kroger chain? I don't know it's out there. I can't find any other Any other of bluebird wine selena everywhere. There's a Bluebird Hill out of Oregon. That's an old different company. So this meal. This is things made orphaned wine at seems to be inexpensive for what it is because it's but at least part of it if not all of its from won the top wire vineyards in California. It's a sixteen months in French oak. Not Forty Percent French oak new French oak and the rest is a neutral barrels and a neutral barrels of barrel. That there's been you so often and no longer gives off flavor anymore and but what it even though it's watertight. It isn't completely airtight. So there's a little bit of air transport just a little bit and that will change. What's in the barrel as ages? Where if you put it in stainless steel while. There's no air getting past aimless steel. That's pretty much locked down. So it's it's more expensive because even though you probably have neutral barrels on hand but you're still using them and you have to you know rather than put it in one you know good sized tank you gotta put it into what's forty percent of fifty two you know. You got thirty barrel thirty-something barrels. You're putting the wine and making sure everything's fine with that. So it's more of an expense more It's more work. You don't usually get more expensive more work in an expensive wine fifteen dollars you start to get some good details on the Y so there you go. This is a wine that is kind of not what I don't even know. 'cause the the tasting notes of two thousand thirteen vintage. There isn't anything for twenty sixteen so I don't mean I'm assuming everything's from the the twenty thirteen vintage notes in the two thousand sixteen winer. The same I don't know doesn't say just notes. I know many barrels they used in. You know with a little small production like that. They can source from a very upscale premier vineyard. You know if you're making one hundred thousand bottles that's a whole different story because you need lot more wine at that point. Netanyahu easy to come by but Guinness Small. Might you might be able to so. I don't know so this is like a grocery store wine that knows what it's all about and It's kind of a cool one. I'm GONNA take a SIP because it actually is pretty good And we'll talk about it. Tastes like Inexpensive on wires are way better than they used to be but they tend to be more fruit dominated cherries for the most part. And that's not a bad thing. I mean there's nothing wrong with it. They taste great but they tend to have a little more fruit than they have the complexity and the other's a new style wine like meal me's where a piano. No wires were there actually really more leaning more towards fruit than and they're really super-popular. He always taste great but the old school California Paean No ours. are weird. I mean they have these spunky flavors they have Herbs and grilled meat and smokin. Things like tar and Exotic TEAS ON EXOTIC SPICES. And he strange. Romo's coming from him. You have to literally take your time to try to find the modernists cependant talking to somebody. You're not going to know what's going on. You have to invest a little bit of time for a decent Pinot Noir to get the full effect to get the get everything that has to offer and you know And inexpensive ones. They're easy to drink. They have some crazy goal functions to him but this as the full for array of crazy cool focus to it You know my favorites are from Oregon. This is a minor race. Little little warmer Monterey not that much warmer but the Oregon ones when they get really good there. The`real that mean the flavors like hits your tongue your taste buds and float away. Another one comes. Those are something else but this is really kinda cool. Let's get an if you take a sip you'll get something else coming and sometimes it tastes delicious. Sometimes like what is that keeps on coming. It's it's a right you know. It's fifteen dollars. I mean normally yeah to go a little bit more upscale on Pinot Noir to get the the whole the whole Shebang going and this one has Taylor sip because I'm thinking about it so I might as well drank it. And they're selling it when they're tasting notes said that this is an everyday wine so they they did try to make. I guess for everyday price but I don't know what they're talking about. Everyday Wind Gusts sixteen months in Oak Twenty sixteen vintage a lot of the home even big name Pinot. Noir makers are releasing the twenty seven teens right now and this might be because or a little bit older you know it might have been sitting around somewhere before it got released and had distribution or something. There might be a reason for why. It's a little bit older. Best Outta batteries has a little bit more Aging and you know a little bit of aging for Pinot. Noirs bat that he he does type of wine. You don't want too much aging but a little bit can of just makes it more interesting scenario. Go to the supermarket. Never know you know because at the time I go to where the sales are I you know I do it for the cheap winebrenner dot com website. Now what happened? I've done in a while. Never had what's looks like. It has a cool label or whatever and this time because I was you know social distancing every time someone walked away. I what somewhere else until I found this one now never would've and I should have because this is a cool wine that is in a supermarket a grocery store chain. And this is a boutique wine at supermarket prices. And it's Kinda cool and that's what you can find even if you can't find this one for sale which may be you can't you can't. It's really kind of fun just to get this. You know it's the know that if you look you'll never know what you find. So that's it for me. I hope you're all doing what you can do and Hope you get your money coming in from the government Who knows what they're doing with that and everybody's safe and everybody looks like Old West Old West bandits right now covered up. And it's kind of funny what they're using for mass. I don't think they're really medically approved. But you know it's kind of a fashion statement so be safe out there And that's it for me to the next time. This is Dave from cheap wine. Finer DOT com over out keep a cheap and puncture down to the next family talk yeah.

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Weekly Preview: Risks and rewards in the new OPEC+ deal

World Oil's Daily Brief

12:47 min | 1 year ago

Weekly Preview: Risks and rewards in the new OPEC+ deal

"Welcome to the daily brief. The world oil podcast network daily review of Market News, emerging trends, new technologies and the people who are advancing the oil and gas industry. Here's Cameron. Wallace with your top news stories of the day. Hello and welcome to the world oil. Daily, brief podcast I'm Cameron Wallace and today is Sunday June seventh. Yesterday the OPEC Plus Alliance ratified its agreement to extend oil production cuts through the end of July. That agreement has a lot of moving parts and relies on strict compliance countries that don't have a very good track record of hearing quotas. The deal also represents a new more sophisticated approach by the cartel to proactively control oil prices, and not to spoil the surprise, but they may have finally hit upon way to keep us shale producers in check as part of it. Regardless Saturday's activity will have an outsized impact on the oil and gas industry this week. Before we get started with that. Take a quick look at the week. That was. Baker Hughes updated its drilling rig count. Friday and we continue to see those numbers reflect capex budget cuts and weaken global demand. The US Land Rig. Count stood at two hundred eighty four rigs on Friday down seventeen rigs for the week and down six hundred ninety one rigs compared to this day one year ago. Meanwhile, Canada has added one rig, bringing their total to twenty one and the international rig count fell by one hundred and ten rigs to eight hundred five. Amid falling rid counts, oil prices log their six week of price gains. Thanks to OPEC and continuing Chinese demand growth West Texas intermediate closed the week up two dollars and fourteen cents to thirty, nine, fifty, five, a barrel while Brent closed up two dollars and thirty one cents to forty two thirty barrel. So now as we look forward to coming week, let's take a little deeper look at the OPEC plus agreement. There's a lot more to it than just tacking thirty days onto the schedule has some significant implications for both members and non members. Yesterday OPEC plus agreed to a one month extension of its record oil production cuts and adopted a stricter approach to ensuring members. Don't pump more than they pledged. The deal will underpin all markets recovery easing the financial pain felt by resource, dependent emerging economies show explorers in Texas and blue operators alike. According to consultant would Mackenzie Brent. Crude prices could rise to as much as fifty dollars a barrel this week. It's a victory for Arabian. Russia who put a destructive price for behind him to cajole Iraq Nigeria and other laggards to the filler promises to cut production. The two leaders of OPEC plus show that they intend to keep a close watch on the oil market. The group's monitoring committee will now meet every month to assess the balance between supply and demand amid certain economic recovery from the global pandemic. Saudi, Energy Minister Prince Abdulaziz Bin Salman said our collective efforts have borne fruit, and despite many uncertainties, there are encouraging signs that we are over the worst. Demand is returning as big oil. Consuming economies emerged from pandemic lockdown. After a video conference lasting several hours on Saturday delegates said that all nations had signed off on a new deal for production cut of nine point six million barrels a day next month. That's one hundred thousand barrels a day lower than the reduction in June because Mexico will end its supply constraints, but a tighter limit than the seven point, seven million barrels a day set for July in the group's previous agreement. In addition any member that doesn't implement all its production cuts in May and June will make extra reductions from July to September to compensate according to an OPEC communique. Those promises are a particular indication for the Saudi minister who has consistently pushed fellow members to stop cheating on their quotas since his appointment last year. But they could also add to risk in theory. The entirety of the twenty three nation production agreement, which runs until April, twenty, twenty two is now contingent on every member, making one hundred percent of their pledge cuts. That something that's rarely achieved in the three and a half years at places existed or indeed also the decades long history of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries itself. Oil has just posted a sixth weekly gain in London more than doubling since April with traders, anticipating tighter supplies as demand recovers from lockdowns. US, president, Donald, trump on Friday hailed the cuts OPEC allies for saving America's energy industry. US Energy Secretary Denver. Yet also welcomed the deal on Saturday. Saying quote I applaud the OPEC plus for reaching an important agreement which comes at a pivotal time as oil continues to recover and economies reopen around the world. Russia's Energy Minister Alexander Novak said in opening remarks at the meeting. The oil market is still in a fragile state needs support that is why this meetings more than ever is important to adhere to one hundred percent compliance. The group hopes to build on its success by pushing the market into supply deficit next month, taking advantage of a price structure called backwardation to chip away at the billion barrel of oil stockpiles, the built up during the pandemic. There was no discussion at the meeting about the future of the additional one point, two million barrels a day, voluntary cuts being implemented by Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies in June. The cartel meet again in the second half of June for another review, the oil market. Talks are scheduled on June. Eighteenth for the Joint Ministerial Monitoring Committee which could recommend a further extension if it's deem necessary, which would push the production cuts into August? That panel is set to meet every month until December. The next full ministerial OPEC plus meeting has been scheduled for November thirtieth to December the first, although the communique notes, that conference could be held whenever it is required. Cutting production is always painful for oil-dependent states Iraq in particular needs every penny, because it's still rebuilding its economy, following decades of war sanctions and Islamist insurgency. The country amid listen half of its assigned cutbacks last month, so compensating fully would require to slash production by a further twenty four percent to three point, two eight million barrels a day. Accepting such could risk of backlash from Iraqi parliamentarians and political parties not want to bow to foreign pressure. The traditional shirkers, and plus promise many times before to do better, but some some analysts are skeptical that it'll be any different this time. There's also a risk that future OPEC plus curbs could be undermined by return of Libyan oil. The civil war there halted more than one million barrels a day production, helping pick plus rebels the market. But a ceasefire on Saturday, now opens the door for gradual recovery of supply. For now at least members of OPEC, plus can enjoy the price gains resulting from the deal. The oil mark is on its way to recovery, said Ann Lewis Hill an oil analyst of wood, Mackenzie supply shifted dramatically already. Global demand is recovering to with both May and June climbing from the lowest seen in April as the coronavirus, related shutdowns continue to ease. Now on the surface. This agreement might look like more of the same old plus strategy of cutting production. But a closer look shows subtle changes that point of Saudi Arabia Russia and their OPEC plus allies adopting a more sophisticated approach. That being trying to flip the shape of the oil price curve upside down. In many respects, the cartels borrowing from playbook of the world's top central banks or policymakers often focus on interplay between long and short term investment rates. The alliance's traditionally targeted a reduction in inventories, but now it's also actively focusing not just on stockpiles, but also on the shape of the oil curve, designing policy to influence short term prices relative to those further in the future. The idea within OPEC plus is trying to push near-term or spot prices higher than forward contracts structure known among traders as backwardation. In short OPEC wants oil today to be more sought after than oil for delivery months or years into the future encouraging refiners and traders to take root out of inventories. This marked a departure from previous aims to draw down inventory, more subtle way of communicating in. The shift first reported by Bloomberg on Friday could have important implications for US shale producers who benefit from higher longer dated prices as they used them to hedge their future production. While front month West Texas intermediate remains slightly below forty dollars a barrel. The price of twenty twenty one is trading higher and the price for twenty twenty two is almost forty to fifty a barrel. Brent price curve remains in tango. The term for market where long-term oil is more expensive than short. Although earlier this week, the front of the curve briefly flipped into backwardation. This price difference between contracts for delivery now and in six months remains in tango although it has narrowed significantly over the last two months. Controlling the shape of the curve is difficult, would require OPEC plus to make short-term adjustments to its output, reacting quickly to changes in supply and demand. But there are signs. OPEC pluses adopting more nuanced policy approach, extending his deep output cuts by a single month rather than committing to a longer period. For the OPEC. Plus Alliance, the ideal scenario would be to move the shape of the curve from his current tango, where near prices are lower than future prices into a mild backwardation was spot prices higher than forward ones. Cartels Preferences Shallow backwardation about twenty to thirty cents per barrel per month right now. The West Texas Intermediate is on a Mild Tango fifteen to twenty cents per barrel per month. Damian on an oil analyst at Goldman Sachs, so we believe that OPEC remains focused on sustainably increasing revenues through a combination of higher prices, but also higher market share. Structurally this conference us in our long held view that OPEC will start targeting backwardation rather than higher prices alone. Finally today. In case we needed any reminders of the risks that face the OPEC plus producers. Libya's biggest oilfield is gradually resuming production after a five-month shutdown as regional powers push to end the country's civil war. The restart the Shahara field in the southwest comes after lengthy negotiations with militants to reopen valve closed in January, the state. Run National. Corporation said on Sunday. Production will resume at initial thirty thousand barrels per day and take three months to return to full capacity due to damage caused by the shutdown. Shahara was using three hundred thousand barrels a day before the cut-off amid an offensive by Khalifa half Dr who leads a rebel military force base in the countries east. The field resumption follow setbacks in recent weeks for half tires forces. They've lost stronghold in western Libya after battling for more than a year to seize the capital Tripoli from the United. Nations back government of Faez L. Suraj. Halftime had accepted an Egyptian sponsored. Cease Fire over the weekend, although Sarraj is, administration said Sunday is fighters will continue their offensive to retake two key cities before any political negotiations. After. Supporters have blockaded major oilfields imports since January cutting output in the north African nation from as much as one point, two million barrels a day to just ninety thousand barrels. Libya Africa's largest proven crude reserves and the collapse production has had the inadvertent effect of helping the OPEC plus alliance prop up oil prices, following the route of March and April. And there you have it a closer. Look at the OPEC plus production agreement that will be the prime mover of oil and gas industry activity this week. To learn more, please visit, world, oil dot com slash news. I'm Cameron Wallace thanks for listening today. Thanks for listening to the daily brief on the world oral podcast network. If you have any questions or comments on the program, please email editorial at world, oil, dot, com, and check. The show notes for more information about today's episode. Don't forget to subscribe either on Apple. PODCASTS or wherever you get your podcast, also be sure to visit world dot com for more information about today stories and sign up for our free daily newsletter.

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Ep.34- Birdfish Brewing and The Flight Crew

Homes and Hops

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Ep.34- Birdfish Brewing and The Flight Crew

"Homes in hops is proudly supported by Platin- insurance, your local independent insurance agency, offering auto home, life, business and farm insurance. They also have a team of specialists that help you with insuring your brewery or winery, Platin- insurance, helping you protect your tomorrow for more information or quote. Please call them at three, zero, eight, five, six, six, two, four, four, or visit them on the web at Platinum Durance dot com. Hey everyone, Lisa resnick air homes and hops. I am sitting at my house with Greg. Snyder bird fish brewing company, blue and Jason Let's see if I could do this. I know his jugs jogging hammers that right through. Oklahoma Julian Heimer I mean it's been. Slaughtered so many times I've had people seeing John Jason Jingle Heimer Schmidt to me. Nasty. That's cool, not rolling when you're in. Kindergarten and that's all the kids recess. Well, I mean you were obviously very popular and everybody knew who you were. Of Popular was. Word McCain who I was. So? Jason is part of the flight crew. And he is also Greg and Jason are also good friends. Grew together. I help. Remembering for his master's. Much so so teach him. Everything knows how is that? Is that right? Yes? Yes, he'll be one. Yeah, so so just before we even crack open. A Beer I would like to know Jason. What would you say? WHAT IS IT OBI? Wan will be the OBI Wan Yoda. Yoda on my Odom I might have credentials for Yoda. Guys, so what? What would you say is the one profound thing? The most profound thing you've learned from Greg got to just put you on the screen clean, clean clean. Clean he will white glove test stuff when we homebrew and learn how to use a host. Host. What do you mean how to learn to use a hose could use the hose I just need I've ever shows water for them a matter. But. Yeah, cleaning is ninety percent of. Making I will have to. They have with wine as well. It seems like the clean portion, the glorified or janitor that knows how to like make beer or make wine seems to be a common theme when it comes to making beer. So is it? Is it that easy for things to get? Mean? It's just the back to you know bacteria. Go Bad yeah in a wrong environment. So when you're talking about the cleaning, you're doing like the tubes everything just sterilization of everything Really I mean once you get through the ball process you know. The words being chilled into the Formentor and at that point you know you, you're not bringing the beer up to a temperature of killing off any bacteria so. If. You have any signs of moulder growth of any type that could affect the beer by chance to. You know if this also applies to like when you're when you're making whiskey or Bourbon. I don't know I don't know if the alcohol content Whiskey! Bourbon higher would pretty much kill off everything. Yeah, yeah, because basically what what I'm thinking is so if I'm sick, a beer won't kill off whatever I may have. Permanent Whiskey may definitely sweat it out. Real, I don't know if it's real or not. I'm try. Oh, yeah, that's with that. Yeah, let's find out you can grab some Bourbon. See if it works. hypochondriacs be drunk all. The time. Like I need this. There you go. So what beers do! We have here today, guys. We've got the Bohemian pills. Ner. Check style pills ner. scripted WPA. That's what I brought. It looks like you've got some cocoa, Hayes. Some scarlet goes space candy and Hearty Space Candy and harveys and thought a variety. You all right? Which one should we? Should we try first? Our disturbed Bohemian pills ner. Nice Light Chris Pills ner This is A. This is becoming. I would say one of our flagship beers. In addition to to so I ready climber on. It's not gonNA sound like Bush. Bo Pills? Nice but a, but yeah, this beer here It's becoming A. A regular for what we brew. It's gone over very well with our consumers. just nice light. Crisp pills ner. So you need to have something like that on tap for somebody that comes in just being introduced to craft beer typically. This style is whether GonNa Start Typically, so it's become very popular and like I, said we're. We're brewing it all the time now. We've actually gone ahead and got to thirty barrel logging tanks that we just got in just to help out with the process of Bruno Spear since it's A. Logging East it has to condition a lot longer than are other beers. Typically a month and a half to two months where you know like to sip from brewing to. Packaging Cannon Keg ing? Going on tap is a twenty one days. So before we have unique tanks which are for mentors and bright tanks, all in one to our, this beer would sit in one of those tanks for you know month and a half to two months, which then that tanks tied up to where we can't brew? Brew Other Beers or continual. Process to keep up with volume. So what these tanks we're going to allow us to do is actually brew four batches of helium pills. Ner ferment in the fifteen tanks, two of them, and then transfer out of those into the logging tanks and let them condition in there, so you know now we're taking say to two months down to eleven to fifteen days of only time that fermenters toward them. We can chat beers much more efficient. So, who came up with the recipe for this? We did out. It was a whole collaborative. Our Yeah So. Many different, 'cause this is this is what I always wonder because you just mentioned the length of time that it takes to brewed the beer. Is there. Are there ways to taste as you go that you alter the recipe when you're making it Really I mean once you're through the. You Build. Build out your your recipe and once you. I mean there's tasting ports on the fermenters. Okay, you can taste the beer as it goes, but at that point it's GonNa. Be What it's, GonNa be I, mean you can taste for like whether it's young tasting, and it's not quite there yet to keep it in the fermented and let it condition longer That's kind of where that tasting aspect would be, but to like alter the. The flavor altogether you just have to move on. The next time would be like okay, we'll be no. This one was a little more multi. We didn't really want it to be that multi on the profile, so we'll do this to the match. You know profile for the grain profile to take some of that multinational, or if it doesn't come through, then you just know you're going to stick in. A barrel adds fruit and suited us. Is that how that works I always wondered. So. How do you? How do you determine that this was the recipe that you went with? Did you grew other ones before hand and we're like This isn't quite right that we want. As our introductory I mean their stuff, you can research you know. This is a check, style pills or so US called like floor mall in it and then. The hops that we use her all saws or says hops for Kantar batch. And then Know, we just use a a logging least for it, but I mean it's as home brewers. We never did loggers just because. They're intense I. Mean Loggers and pills are toughest spirit. Abreu okay. There's nothing you can hide in a lot. You know a pills. Ner is what it is so to really you know. Go into a brewery and. Kind of. Quality not really qualified, but if you want to know what they have, Brew Right, get a get a really good feeling of you know the beers that you're going to be tasting and they have a pills, nor on tap get the pills, ner and from their. You're probably GONNA. Say Yeah, these guys brute great beer. You know because you know an Ip a or really your darker style beers. Your pores stoute's. You can hide a lot of like imperfections in your processes of brewing. Just because you got you know chocolate malts in coffees. Other. Things in you know your IPA's. You're adding. A lot of hops where these you had hops, but there's there's no other flavors or anything that you're adding. It is just what it is. So a good clean pills ner that burri puts out. Is I mean you look at even like the big guys? You know your your your your bud lights. Your I mean they're Bruin. Difficult Beers well, and that's my next question is consistency. 'cause like because you guys I. Mean I'm I'm making an assumption that. Budweiser has a major factory in where they're producing barrels upon barrel here that it's. Behalf you manage the consistency that is the same flavor with every six pack that somebody's going to get. Once you get to that level I mean there's a lot of checks and balances and equipment that you haven't place. That's going to allow you to do that when we first started. We were ruin on burrow system, and we were ferment from tation at room temperature. So you know there's a lot of variables. If of my bartenders shuts air conditioner, offer turns the heat up. It changes the temperature in there, and if it doesn't get caught for days on end, where I should be primary fermenting at seventy degrees, and it gets to eighty degrees in the room at room from tation. It's GonNa. Change the profile of the beer so where we're at on our. Production, system, you know there's all of our fermenters Glycol Jackie did. So? We can regulate a lot of things to ensure that we are. Putting out that product, and it's the same every single time, and then when you guys go out the flight crew and tastes some of this beer at various different breweries do ever replay. Go back and taste the beer and then find it tasting different than the first time you've ever had it. I'm sure I mean you can get the same beer on draft in Canon. Sometimes you'RE GONNA. Get some variance to it. I think it just depends on. If you buy off the shelf at the store, you don't know how. It was treated once it left the brewery they did sitting. You know a hot storeroom for a while before stuck in cooler to just stay on the shelf, So that's GonNa change the flavor of the beer as well. I think out of the tap is always the best. As far as true depiction of what that Burritos! Because that's the most. Anything their. Storage, generally, Kagan. It's an cooler and you're just waiting for it to come to handle now. Are you finding when you're going back out there? 'cause you guys are visiting. Burris again. So when you guys are back out there. Are You finding because of? The period of time where a lot of people had weren't able to open up their doors that you are seeing beers that typically would be in the winter or early spring. Still out there for the summer months. what's hard? It's hard to say because we've actually only been in one brewery. That was open since I'm going back out a little bit. We did son Dockside Hurry for the Business Journal. We just did a modern methods, but they're only doing the lemonade stand still. Yes, in so we kinda hung out in the alley and try some from Beers and I. Don't think I think the only dark one we even had is beef, but I think he can bring that pretty much year round we went out hop frog for the canton repository and we tailgate. We sat in a parking lot on the back of a pickup truck with Fred and you know. He pulled out. Anything he had to pull out and we were drinking. Some you know imperial Stout S- some some heavy stuff there and then we just had missing mountain on Wednesday. That's a first brewery we actually went to new wing. Are in Cuyahoga falls right on the river, beautiful setting, cool patio, looking river to get kayaks coming down canoes coming down. Greg Beer. I brought back. I! Don't know I brought your now. I- jared paid for beer bearhug brought beer back. Thanks I have. Everything didn't even know you're going. We're good friends. I always bring Greg Beer. Could. Do I not bring down almost every time I come down. Yeah, okay Just you. Know So I usually I go up to the brewer and I say I'd like a at pack four pack whatever you have to go, and I say it's for another brewery or brewer, and they're like okay, and then they just select whatever they think is going to be the best one to sample out. I figured it's better than me me picking it out and. Off I have to do that like for. WanNa would fall. Be With John Ohio state to tailgate and stuff like that. No bring local beers down will hit places on the way back. I always take a mixed four pack in the Bird, Fisher modern or noble creature. Whoever have with me at the time and just say hey. Next time viewers you give him a shot and have you. Have you ever written a bad review about a beer? No I'll say there are beers. Cause because I think. Would just community I mean? You're going to have people on social media that will rip. The beer in Ripa brewery just because they have an axe to grind, or they are brave behind a computer screen, or they don't get out there in the public all We've had beers. You Know I. Don't know I've tried stuff at Barack I just don't enjoy, but I always find two or three or four beers that I really do, and then we kinda go back and forth on a ones that we our view based on what we liked I mean. We don't like everything I. Don't like everything you know. Bertrand has a couple of beers I wouldn't necessarily order if I'm at bird fish. I like things on the board. Wouldn't be my friend when. It's not actually that. Let's talk about the relationship between bird fish in the flight crew I mean 'cause you guys really do have a great relationship with each other very were the very first article we did for vindicator. So, it was I two thousand sixteen in October, that was the first time we met. Those guys I think Roger New Doug done. So there was a kind of a building relationships there, so when we started thinking okay, we finally got approval to do this like eight months. vindicator, finally you know crosser crossing the T.'s dot. Their is and stuff, so we went on bird fishing. It's. They're just like they're good group of people you know. Sit there and talk to him and stuff like that. They were always very approachable. So we'd start seeing him out like quaker, steak and Lube with do the beer tastes, so we'd see him somewhere else. And we started talking hanging out a little bit just we brew beer down there the kind of a blog series on vindicator site. Really enjoyed it and they just. Like family us now I mean we get the opportunity to go down? I mean I've been the things at Greg's house. He's been things at my house. We've been hanging out and then some different things and so very portable. Good people I agree, and you see that with most of the guys around you know. Girls Guys Bruin around here locally. They're just all very good. You know that Working Class Youngstown Warren. Colombian that just that Working Class Group of people that are very inviting I would agree completely, and I will also have to say there is an this is the intelligence level is above me in what it takes, actually brew beer and. I didn't know until I. Dive more into it. How much science and everything that comes into play besides cleaning comes into play when it comes to making a good beer that is not easy. You've just can't sit there and like download the recipe and and just put it together in that yet. There is definitely an aptitude you know. Everybody locally seems to have when it comes to Brewin- beer in most of them, start off homers, and then went right into downing a brewery whereas you get some breeze, the guys bounce around a little bit. They brewed on big systems in small systems, and they've traveled in big cities and stuff like that and they decided. Hey, when open a brewery now and they've had this wealth experience to do that. Netting Iras, dealing with it really brewed somewhere else. SPRAGUE farm I think has the only only one locally that brute commercially. Everybody else cuddles is hey, let's try this. We homebrew was good. We get some people interested in buying it so. There's a lot of homebrew. Arrest is still out and about in a row like I know typically, there's the purple hat. that has their big fundraiser, which unfortunately had to be postponed that we do have the local breweries also participate in, but then it's an opportunity for the home brewers. Have you ever entered into it? I was last year was the first time I did it. Last year I took, we would actually went so. Greg were from the pump. Instructors is one of the sponsors and stuff. Stuff like that, so the flight crew we did an article on the pump house. We brewed a beer specifically for that. It was Cinco de Mayo, so we did like a it was like a Mexican l., an L. We used all Mexican hops in it and we try to do something with that, and then I brewed one myself. That was like Basil and I think line. That! You know who's decent and it wasn't probably best thing that was trying to throw together, but it was one of those. You're sitting there and you're looking recipes and like try this. Try that hop and you really don't know how. It's GonNa work together until you brew it sometimes when you homebrew, it turns out fantastic. Sometimes you make a mistake in turns out even better than you thought. And sometimes you think you have it in. It's just not there. But then how many how many beers do you get out of your home brew? Well when I used to do it With just a small seven gallon Turkey Fryer Pot, I would get you know five gallons of beer if I was bottling it I get. Just over two cases. Fortunate enough to get a pretty good deal on a half barrel system so now. When I do get that deal. You knows a friend Yoda. Now, I can. I can pull Greg's new nickname. When I do a batch of beer I can get depending on. You know the beer now. Only boiling stuff like that usually can pull anywhere between twenty and twenty four gallons at a time out. Nice so it is nice now finding out what to do with all that beer because I'm used like okay, we'll just take one beer, not gonNA kick a began with that skin, low Bruno other beer put in an cave, and now it's like Oh. Wow, I've got four kegs of beer. I gotTA get cold so I've got a kager reiter in a refrigerator. I keep kegs in now looking to. Get a chest freezer and converted over to a TAP system and. I have to ask this question as now so whether the wife or the husband Bruce about how much space do you take up a home when you decide to homebrew? I think it just depends I was doing it in a room in a basement with a little propane. You Know Campfire Turkey, fire thing in a pot and I think that's how a lot of people are in the basement. Yeah, I feel like I'm not using oil. Normally, you'd be like that's not a good idea now and then I. I didn't like the word smell in the house so I was you know moved out to the garage teat? It's okay with that or in the summertime. I'd settle the back patio, do it. And now with this, you know half borough system. Let's three big pots and happened by foot. Brewing Cart. Gradually taking over more space in your house now I've kind of I fortunate to have a room without a sink down there and we keep refrigerators down there. That's kind of been the broom, all beer staff and I've got bottles and growlers. I got ingredients and cleaning supplies and stuff down there. It's kind of my space With doing the bigger system though I've moved into the garage, but really i. didn't you know just slid underneath? Some shelves! I had an awal already and I. Don Abreu Day on cars and pulled out in the middle? The garage and I've got my water. Doing any do right there so in other words if if somebody's spouse wants to start. Diving into the Bruin world. Just let them know that they're not gonNA take too much space in amount after especially for just start out with I mean even with. You know seven gallon kettle when a couple Igloos to act like ten gallon coolers actors. Your Mash Tun in your Sparta water. All stores pretty easily, so he just take it down. You gotTA. Do and back now you brewed just yesterday. And how many hours I did it take you from start to finish yesterday Start to finish where I I start doing one thing and I get sidetracked, or you know we have problems leading hose or something or He needed I wasn't there wasn't there now I started? I, was there I started presence getting stuff. About seven o'clock cleaning boiling water run through all the hoses, the sanitizer them I think it was about. A Time I had water backup to temperature to start. Doing Mash was a little after eight. By the time I was done. Transferring everything into to ferment, they was I know after one than just clean up by you know I was only doing sometimes. Greg and I'll sit there to batches of homebrew in a day, so you'll start at eight in the morning and you're finishing up five six o'clock at night, depending on what your brewing This was in bad because I could clean up the very steps as I went along so little easier to do so. Does that mean you could also drink the beer like it's ready to go out the same day or do you set? Yes, I on like The one I did yesterday. I'm doing a sour. I did sours a few weeks ago in in Greg, taught me how to Kennel Sour and that means you've gotta you know you get your mascow transferred to bring up, so boyle for a little bit. Bring it down in temperature, and you've gotta bacteria to it in Nevada. Wrap it and keep it warm at one hundred degrees for fifteen sixteen hours. Let that bacteria start sour beer. Then, you've got to go back to finish the process of bringing. Bring it up so bored. You could add your hop. You could add you coriander your see solve your Macho East nutrient. Then you got a cool it put it in. Pitcher East, so doing one bachelor that typically takes. A day and a half to get it done right. The one I did yesterday we found a new strain of yeast supposed to sour the beer itself as opposed to needing the bacteria to create some bacteria so in lactic acid so yesterday. Try East, but it does. Now if it works, that's great because for some breweries that make it easier to do sours where you don't have to tie up. Your boy your boyle for a day. In south works great, and so they can buy it. I'm buying little packets and making the big brexit and stuff like that they wanted to do That'll be cool. So when you guys collaborate with with different beers and everything the flight crew you guys have worked with bird fashion and create, and you just mentioned a couple other breweries. Is this part of collaboration? Or is it just like if I were to collaborate with someone to be like? Hey, let's do a a peach beer in. Oh, you. Could I mean that's. First thing we did you know after meeting? You guys I did. Blueberry Hill breakfast stout I called it. That's true. That was food. Yeah! Bob's and then when we decided to broughtdown there, we added the Oh to make an outstanding breakfast stout, and so then we do that in the fall when we do the Joni Abdu of at fish, because these guys have been great about you know things with us with that the second harvest, food, Bank but then. They do a lot community wise, real wise as far as charities and events and stuff like that to help people out. Well I fish obviously helped out with the homes in hops virtual for a while. You also have the the Austin Tom Pediatrics the guys have helped out with, and then like you just said Joni Abdou. For Fuchs for boobs. But then you harvest haze which rush hop Ip, they do in the fall as well right August second harvest food which I mean Second Harvest Food Bank right now. I think it's imperative for everybody. Keep that in the forefront of their minds, especially with our current economic situation and of anything that we can do to help out, and if you can get a beer and help out at the same time. Why not? We've gone down bird fishing, a flight crew and had packaged food for four hours on a Saturday down there. Just because it's again, it's a group of people be around, and it's not all bird. Fish and boys is just people that have been there from the time. These guys were making wine and a garage to the time they started brewing beer. But what do they say about Colombian? WHO everybody nicest breese. Digest and all the signs hanging above your driveway. News. It is still around. Here could least bask in the glory a four. It's actually a great time to sell. I mean it's insane out in the market right now. Crazy cross my mind so. So I have to ask. Because I really don't know what's the difference between Brew Master and a brewer. Do, you guys now well. I mean you're brew Masters Probably? technical out of somebody's it out something. Let me wing it for Caso so brew Masters probably the one that's really sitting down developing recipes you know putting all that out there. And you're brewer I'm sure he has the knowledge of putting together the recipes, but that might be somebody that you bring in on a commercial level to your business that you know you might be the one that you know Bruce. Second shift if you're bigger burry and basically, you're just kind of following. What's already been developed a four in a certain beer? So you probably still have the same knowledge? There might be an experience thing that goes along with that I. Just think you don't old European guilt picture some Old German gentlemen sitting there in teaching a young apprentice had to brew beer like that idea. The Brew Master saw Brew Master. Who's Burger. There you have it people. Out just a classically trained element, 'cause I mean now you can. Going to college to become a brew. Master and can you really? Central Michigan was the first one offer. A brewing masters or a battery brewing I thought about it, but I'll still paint on student loans from Marietta College for Petroleum Engineering. Here like I'm already an engineer wing. It feel like I handle. And you're you're you teach or teach so there you got? What are you GonNa? Do Do you think you guys are going back? Hey, can also do. We have some inside scoop. Do you have any inside knowledge? I wish I, think we're in a little bit of flux right now with changing administration stuff like that and they're kinda still in a wait-and-see mode I think behind the scenes. They've got a couple of plans being developed What are we doing this situation this situation? They've got some ideas for online school, but. I think like everybody also kind of just waiting science. You teach math onto history. I'll hipster cutting. Wishing I teach history a nice. So would you ever teach scientific like you know what I'll hold class at my house and just have a bunch of little kids like I I don't know. How long a teacher! If I brew Beer I did I. Mean my son will come out and stir the pot a little bit and do some stuff, but. I don't know how well that would go over I did try and with that they're not drinking. It I did try and talk the MCC. TC At one time their agriculture program at our hops work with a local brewery that way, but even then they were kind of like a well. I don't know. If people get a little skittish on things that I can't go for. Growing hops. That's a good thing. obser- tough to grow in northeast Ohio, too because of our climate, right, you're the diseases in the downy mildew. Although teeny, pretty dry weather in order for. Arizona would be a good place. really like Yakima Valley like. My Washington stay out. That way out. West is really the. Hub for East mountains at dry. Cooler printing much the hub of the the hop grow. How many hops do you need to borrow? A batch beer like Harvey's finest radio. There's minimal. Hopson scripted. There's. You know. Properly. To be thirty pounds. Wow compared to. That's a lie hot. Hayao nurses have to pay. How much you're brilliant eh to. Yeah, and like a lot of our hazy IPA's were doing. What's called dry hopping, so we're adding hops after say the brewing process of brewing the beer, so as its fermenting. You might have what's called primary. Primary fermentation you're adding hop additions and secondary fermentation. You're adding hop so what that brings to the table as those like upfront Aromas, the citrusy around me, you get the. People that taste a beer and don't really have the knowledge of the brewing process or hops and things like that may think that this is like grapefruit. You put grapefruit juice in this. Not just that style of hop in the characteristics of that hops, bring out those aromas and flavors. That's interesting. 'cause I did I always assumed that there was some portion of a fruit or something in there if you did have a little bit of that flavor. And there's thousands of varieties hops out there. Some that are just more piney that bring like a piney profile there's hops that are used like during the beginning of the boyle. That's more for veteran, so there's. There's so much out there and I think that's where you get a misconception. When somebody seems like an Ip, a just immediately thing, it's going to be happy. Bidder via so op scripted is I mean it's. It's really smooth, it's. DOUBLE IPA but which tend to be a little more sweeter, but just I mean we barely add. Well, we don't add any early hops during the boil. It's all at the tail end really at the whirlpool, so like I said hops that are added during the beginning of the boyle harm more for like littering aspect you get. That kind of come out when you boil right tour the later later side. An you. Is In regards to the hops. Right Badger Addtional bitter. And it has absolutely no connection with AB V now. I don't even know if that's. It's not really a reliable scale, and I know people want to know I be us. Beers but I've had a beard had I as a forty issue that are extremely bitter and extremely. That hoppy. Oil, or whatever comes out of it, and I've had IPA's at say there are one hundred you and it doesn't matter at all, so I think it was a movement a couple years ago I. Don't know if it's still active or anybody. Pay attention a lot of the Colorado Berea. We're trying to move away from listing either us because it is. Like anything you can make stats you know. Tell one side of the story of the story but I think I use are a misconception when something's a high Bu. Beers author to claim to have two thousand. I've us, but I think we sat down with a guy one time and I think the your palate. You're limited your pal when we taste like one hundred and twenty five us kind of like sunscreen. At some point you can't. You just can't sunscreen. On just saying sunscreen is ineffective. What is it after fifty SPF? So if you're putting on something that says seventy five. It's still just fifty SPF. But I? You've you've a threshold for is. I always get the baby ninety. There is. There is no such thing just makes you feel good and spend more money. Yeah, exactly exactly. Home always something. Like screw that. I'm going back to coppertone forty five. Johnson baby just just. That would be paddy. Fifteen kind of guy I know I'm still fifty. But being impaled. That's why probably know that now we can wear this bad. Somebody told me one time while was putting the seventy five bucks. It doesn't matter. For. So no connection so the my other question is, is somebody such as myself? That likes to keep it at a lower ab. How come, the lower, ABC's are less hobby, 'cause I also enjoy the hoppy flavor. You can get like copier like session I P as editor. Lower like how? Parks. What five percent? Parks S Chelsea yeah, five. Five five five four summer. Yeah I. I think it's just a style and like. You see a Lotta burs. That are typically they're middle. Range is probably six to seven percent I've had style spears We do. Some sessions, but most of what we do parks, probably the. The Lighter It's a hazy pay oil. So what about your own pocket protector? What is that? It's a cult. It's a coal. Minder but it's not real. It's our Hamadan. No, but I do know the though is pretty good. Around my five percent Oh Yeah. I. I try to I mean. I guess I lower intolerance than I wish I was, but so what you guys got coming up I. Mean I know that that like you were talking about two of the events that you guys collaborate on will be in fall are you? Are you guys hoping to have like an actual in house event for those or were kind of a wait and see mode I mean. What are we doing? With a harvest, Hey! I think it's a wait and see mode because once you get into in house. You're still going to maintain that social distance and stuff like that and you know Burris like these guys have dividers up and. You can't be. Parties more than Tan and they do a nice job with that Not Everybody has the space to do stuff like that. Though now for us to do with their though to do an event like that. You know you're GONNA do something. He can't really have people congregating inside, and it's to be outside. You start getting them the fall and you don't know the love is going to be like so. Space, heaters, or not space heaters, heat lamps. Think Burr Fischel include. Those we have some just depends on if it's raining or You know they have the over by the way to everyone out there. They do on their patio. Have that overhang now? That who bird fish knows? Canopy awnings well I mean. Doesn't that Stop The rain now? deadly. Seventy five sunscreen. She! Don't cry like Bacon. I just assumed it was keeping everybody dry when they were sitting outside on a rainy day. Maybe, down the road. There's some stuff that might. OCCUR FOR PRODUCE! I mean I can tell you that I would probably be. Not. Not Twenty degrees below be willing to stand outside. And Enjoy People's company outdoors. So, I wouldn't have any problem with that in the fall or early winter new. Pink knows by then. We might have more space for seating. Maybe. Works as about to say what what is happening that additional space in the back of bird fish. We've got some pain up there. You go to get painted. Yeah, we're tempting. So we've taken on a little more space of the the down low so. I guess I should say for anybody. That hasn't known or noticed that we did. Close the up top so. Our original spot just. Threw everything going on and some other things that we decided to. Just, walk away from it just to have more focus on what we're what we have going down low, but. So yeah some new things for bird fish going forward like I said we just got to thirty barrel logging ten. So that's going. Allow us to push more of the Bohemian pills, ner and use those tanks, says kind of like bright tanks as well to be able to transfer beers, probably like to hip and finish out in those two where we can free free up our fermenters to continually to Peru You know through this whole pandemic you know we've gotten great support through when we were doing the curbside thing and even now with opening the doors back up, you know working with the city and everybody. We were able to expand our patio, which allowed for additional social distancing to. Create an atmosphere that you know people that you know. are still a little bit nervous about it, but WANNA go out and have a beer diskette out of the house. I feel like we've done a really good job at you. Know being able and having the capabilities of spacing out and giving somebody that. You know may not go out otherwise to feel comfortable to go out and have a beer and sit outside and I think you guys are very lucky. In Colombian I could say I will say the. Government has been great and and helping out and making sure that they're able to keep their businesses and do what they can do in order to maintain because I mean it is super important for you guys to remain and day successful. It's for everyone in that community, so we've also taken on, you know. We kind of got forced into. With bars restaurants are on tasting room, being shut down. You know pretty much all we could do to push. Product was package it in Canada and put it out, so you know he's taken on more accounts. your sparkles more John Eagles a few other. You know names, models bottle shops and stuff like that, so you know that's kind of forced us to you know put out. You know more cans so in turn now that bars restaurants are tasty rooms opening up. He Look at volume you know, and just how much we were having to put out product productwise to cover those additional counts took over so. You know. We got a canning line coming for the middle of August that will allow us to just be more efficient within the canning process, and be able to handle those accounts, and maybe take on a few additional counts with the you know can product. Do you think that with the canning that there will be visibility from inside the jury to see the canning process happening? I guess we'll just depends on timing of one. We're running it but I. don't even know what this to. Thirty barrels out of your cut off some. Yeah. I mean we'll. We'll still be like pretty much gaining in front of the house, so if we are canny, you'd be able to see the process from the wind from the door, so it's cool. Idea I gets cool to watch that it's pretty neat. So! Yeah, we got that in. The back SPE, so we've taken on additional. Like three thousand square feet of that building so. We're turning it into kind of a tasting room venue You know bringing back, you know. Bird fish was a big supporter of local music artists original artists, so we wanna continue that so that backspace is going to allow us to you know hopefully when the time comes to be able to bring back those artists to our spot in A. Stage back there and do something pretty cool things and. Also possibly having the ability to you know hosts like private parties and stuff like that, so that'll be cool. Craft your wedding. There you go I. Mean You have the Edison Bulbs? What else do you need for a wedding these days? What about you guys with the flake row? Are you guys planning on getting out there? More regularly to likes pop into these breweries that have opened up? Yeah, Real, quick just. Your photos if you don't follow flight crew, obviously phenomenal with their marketing. The flight crew is as well and I don't know who's taking the photos. The, so it's huge as that I think a lot of they. All of us do some more than others. Some get out more than others or you know have the ability to get out more than others unfortunate in that regard to my family likes going out and hitting berries and stuff, too, so we we try and make an appointment to hit a lot like in a few weeks, so probably some Asheville North Carolina photos. And some Athens Ohio photos popping up Jackie. O's and little fish, but now most of the guys will contribute in some way shape or form, although Dave's not on social media doesn't post photos. He's he's barely had a cell phone I think for our two years now, and he likes to stay off the grid as much as possible, so he he so he has no foam whatsoever. No I feel like he at some point in time might have been a Soviet spy or something during the Cold War era and he's trying to not yet caught. He likes to just let everybody else. There you go We did a lot I think we zoom the one night. There in all this pandemic and we did a lot we can like everybody else had pivot a little bit the berries, the pivoting and moving into those online sales, a new we shifted away from doing brewery, stopped and started focusing on distributorships in the young airing on area. We did asper we did. Cavalier in premium and stuff like that to where we would just put out articles in our business journal videos and stuff based on a sitting around our houses, zooming in talking about beer, and pretty much what we do when we meet, you know normally we kinda got started just on backpacks, so it was just kind of a continuation of that Let's see we've gotten out a little bit more. trust and different things were supposed to go on Wednesday. We're going out the barrel, thirty three and Alan. And hanging out with Brian Frye, because they've got you awesome food, and they always have a good selection of craft, beer and stuff like that ideal time. We were out there. We actually did I article. North Highbury was doing a beer dinner out there. So you know Brian Invite us out, and so we talked a little bit about barrel thirty three, but we want to get out there and just kind of focus on specifically what he's doing on another brewery We, just admitting mountain were supposed to Canton brewers an August because they're supposed to be doing kind of downtown thing in canton, but I think that may be on hold now I. Don't know what's going on with that We're supposed to go out to our Shea during an act. Now place in Akron. I think in September and then we just get around a couple of Fridays ago. Brian, Jimmy or Brian were supposed to go in Bryan and I. went out hit a couple of reason, accoring just introduce ourselves a little bit Bring some beer back. ROB tiddle. Who Runs Northeast how craft renews? Eliade huge, following death, great guy, he was He just happened to be stopping out the Emas Magic City in Hawaii. What's the? What's the probability of that happening? That's pretty awesome. I think. Canton Akron Differ Rob's pretty close. He's on the satellite. He's out in Portage County. That report county starts so but he's a good dude. We've sat at my house in brewed with him. You know we've been the his house them some events together and stuff like that and. So from there. We're just trying to wait and see what's going on with Canton. WE WANNA go next locally after route, thirty barrel, thirty three, and and go from there Kaushik receive when Western PA is gonNA open up a little bit because we've done some stuff over there with crooked tongue in we've done crane room and Croakers br thirty two in the past, and we'd like to get back to some of those places that we did is the vindicator, and now we have more latitude with the business journal to get over there and we got a little bit more range They. Give us kind of anywhere within an hour. We're willing to go and do some stuff, and it's cool because we're promoting youngstown in other areas, and then bringing other areas in the youngstown market as far as beer and stuff like that goes, and maybe these people start venturing out. They want to get out to different places. They haven't been hopefully. We're giving them some. Some ideas on what do that I was just about to say. If anybody is taking it adventure whether to be late Geneva on the lake. I know that they have they have a I know. They have one brewery one BURRI. cloven, hoof, and Astra Bulan he's got some good beer up there, so I would recommend reaching out to the flight crew and seen How many recommendations that they have in different breweries to go to I know that I've you guys helped me out when I was going to Columbus about different breweries to hit up I. was there Montero? Really enjoy. Knock tears, my favorite. It's like I love. I thought it was so cool like to go back and see like the whole cultures in like leg out it was that was super cool. That was awesome and the beers, too. So. Thank you so much for joining me today. You know in the homes and hops podcast avenue. Always enjoy great year veteran. I mean you've done multiple I've never been in the studio. No, but you multiple of the costs finding, ask yes, and I will have to say I think I only pair people that I don't know how to say their last names ever. Remember Amy. Probably Still Messa per last name. But she's she was awesome. Sport about it as are you, but again like everybody just calls you jog recalls jugs yeah so. They know why jugs? Little Neo innuendo start running around people's minds and last name shoe climbers just easier. Yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Never told her what you're. You're homebrew name is Oh, you of the hunger name lawyer, I just kinda disturb. Get T shirts May. MOFFAT I just bearded. Oh. Just is your jug. Just how just because my family's sweeney to have a logo I have a look. Oh, we'll facebook instagram and it just it's. It's not real exciting. I, just post pictures, homebrew or hey, everyone welcome. Your photos are awesome so there you go so yeah Dan million. We're GONNA figure like five minutes ago. There's Lisa following me. Dana creative through. Logo together for me. Just you know on the whim because I have an old jug that my family on Zyuganov guttural supplies over Hubbard back in the starting day. They have like just jug, and it was a pencil older, so it's on the picture that he put a beard on it and. has called Danjus came up with flight crews new logo as well logo. We're going to get some stickers with breweries. Order stickers. And he took. He came up with this logo. In addition, any put would rain. Barrel cap on it and stuff like that and. So who knows? He's super good I love recreate created a really great do. And they did. Our homes hops virtual five K shirts which are super soft. I was nervous that it's going to be that hard. It's green, so that's the fun thing about having a little involvement in this industry on me. Just good people so talented. All right, thank you guy up and thank you, cheers!

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Jimmy Hoffa - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 6/15/21

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Jimmy Hoffa - Best of Coast to Coast AM - 6/15/21

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Who know here comes my holding a squeal in front of a customer face and my getting paid twice fast face things for that quickbooks quickbooks payments account subject to eligibility twice based on customer use comparison from august twenty nine hundred july. Twenty twenty mel. Here's a highlight from coast to coast. Am on iheartradio dan. There's no question that jimmy hoffa as he went up through the ranks to the presidency was phenomenal for men and women. Who are teamsters building that union. He did a great job for them. Well i think that he was. I think he he was like walter reuther. At first he was a potential great working class hero. A champion of the working man A hero the rank and file but then when he made his packed with the mob back in early nineteen forties he went from potentially a great lee labor leader to really nothing more than a labor racketeer and that diminish him for the rest of his career. I mean he was. He tried to always pretend like he kept the mob at arm's distance but in fact he was in bed with the bob from beginning to end of his career and in the end it was the model that took his life away he through the teamster pension fund las vegas through the mob. They absolutely i mean he. I don't think he ever said no. I knew some people who own the aladdin at the time who got teamster money years ago detroit detroit people right detroit and saint louis people right and and they did say one thing. They said that the teamster pension fund did not lose money on the biggest investments. What do you think of that Yes i i. that's that's jimmy hoffa. That was his legacy. His legacy was institutionalizing organized. Crime in america. I i say at the beginning on the first sentence of chapter one of my book. The hoffa wars which came out forty three years ago. i said. let me jimmy hoffa's most valuable contribution to the american labor movement came at the moment. He stopped breathing. July thirtieth nineteen seventy five and the reason why said that was because when hoffa disappeared. It was the it was the the launch the liftoff of the federal government re Refinancing re re educating the movement against organized crime in america it was it. Was it precipitated. One of the biggest wars on organized crime ever launched after hoffa disappeared since the kennedy administration. When you had when you had john kennedy press united states you had bobby kennedy was special counsel at the senate rackets committee fifty seven and nineteen sixty the mcclellan committee that the bob kennedy was eating mob guys for breakfast then illinois after the teamsters like crazy wasn't he absolutely right george then and then when he became attorney general under his under his brother in nineteen sixty one. He started eating mafia guys for lunch and dinner to Bobby kennedy was the greatest crimefighter. This country has ever had and My respect for him is enormous and I think it was bob. Kennedy's war and organized crime which led to his brother's murder of this question about that. I was i was the first reporter in the hoffa worse to say that this was a mob hit that this was That just was jimmy hoffa that this was a new orleans mafia guy named carlos marcello that it was a tampa. Mafia guy named Santo traffic connie that the arranged and executed the murder and then a year after my book came out the us house select committee on assassinations. Came out with a report saying that hoffa marcelo in traffic. Connie motive means and opportunity to kill the president and the chief counsel the committee. Bob leakey the world's greatest expert on organized crime said. The mob did it. It's a historical fact. I believe that. Then and i believe that today and they all hated bobby kennedy with a passion but they felt if you just go after bobby. John the president's gonna come after us viciously exactly so we got to remove him. There was there was. There was a month in september. Nineteen sixty two when a an informant and fbi informant named grady part and came in and testified against hoffa. And the reason why he decided to flip and turn state's evidence was that kennedy wanted to kill. Bobby kennedy. excuse me. Hoffa wanted to kill bobby kennedy. Not just bobby kennedy. But he wanted to kill his entire family with plastic explosives and carlos marcello that same month was talking to an fbi informant and he said to him. Listen if we decide. If bobby kennedy winds up getting killed just as you said george that the president will get another attorney general and he will be ferocious on the mafia. So we've gotta get you know we've gotta get the president and then santo traffic hani was talking to another fbi and four jose almonte and during their conversation They were talking about the nineteen sixty four election and the kennedy probably had it in the bag that he was going to be reelected and traffic said. Quite honestly no jose. He's going to be hit at jimmy hoffa's making the arrangements for the president's murder and then the attorney for hoffa marcelo and traffic hoti. They shared the attorney. A guy named frank organic a lot of tampa and he said that he had carried the message from hoffa to marcelo and trophic hani to have the president murder. The the bobcat. John kennedy murder was a mob hit And it wasn't just as well. I if it was as far as the shooting goes i know nothing about that. Crime scene is a disaster area. And i just. I have no idea what what that one's about bob. Bob kennedy murder. That's a different case. I i can discuss that but the and that was in my opinion. That was your hand did it. And he did it alone. I spend a lotta time. What's your hand and But on the john kennedy case the mob did. It is a historical fact. Just as professor blakey said why do you think in in all this. That's been going on. Our government has not gone after the perpetrators who most of them are dead now but to get the truth out to let us know exactly what you've been saying. I read your report. You had in two thousand seventeen that you presented to the mob museum and it was said to me. This is the warren report. This is what should have been turned in well. Trump had the ability while he was president to release all the files and he made the decision not to release the jfk files. He made that decision. So what do you think in those files. Damn i cannot believe that. The one commission people i mean you had allen dulles there the former director of the cia. You had this situation where it was understood that the cia have been trying to kill fidel castro. That's a c. I had been working with the mafia to kill fidel castro and the same mafia guys who they were working with were the same mafia guys who hated John kennedy and i can't believe that if that had not become an issue a discussion during the work commission. Then it wouldn't have created a whole new avenue investigation for the warren commission. So you know the cia. I know a lot of guys. But they're all trained the lie and You know i. I find very very few intelligence reporters who aren't owned by their sources and so as a consequence of that. It's you know when you're dealing with organized crime has i do. I mean it's it's much more easy. It's easier to recognize the good guys from the bad. And i think one of the other big problems to of course is the way that they just continue hoover. Who will you know. The fbi director at the time was convinced from the get go that oswald was the lone gunmen and refused to accept any conspiracy talk. There was a lot of talk about hoover and his conflicts of interest with regard to certain mob guys and and that his his his he came to the table. He never admitted the mob existed. Well he came to the table late. That's for sure. I mean he. He admitted at finally that there was a national crime syndicate but once again he came to the table late on that. And i think that's one of the one of the secrets that jimmy hoffa was harboring and one of the one of the dangers because remember hoffa was midst. It was killed in mr the church committee. Hearings which investigating offiah plots to kill castro. I believe in short this. The cia mafia plots to kill castro after they compromise the cia and the intelligence communities mafia had compromised the intelligence community. I think that it evolved into a I think it evolved into a conspiracy against The president of the united states. And again i i usually conspiracy. You know with with with with respect because i investigated organized crime which by definition is Enterprise crime Crime by association. It is conspiracy crime so as a consequence. I investigated a lot of conspiracies. I always have been thinking to Up until your work trying to figure out why would they kill jimmy hoffa if he merely wanted to come back and become the president of the teamsters union again. I think it's as you suggested. I think he he was. He was talking. He was he was a threat to them. And i think as a consequence of that he he had to go now. The fbi had after the grand jury investigation. I was there at the federal courthouse at day. On december fourth. Nineteen seventy five when they had that hearing and the brazilian the android us for the fbi took per car does information the information and they went to brother mascot does it up and they did it. They have with a search warrant which they presented to the two owners. The brother gotto and to parker pola his partner. Pj p landfill and they didn't have a specific place to look in fifty four acre dump. And they just really couldn't do very much Later on after. I interviewed hoffa's killers. After i interviewed julia. Andretti's i got to. I got to fill in the scotto. The the underworld figure who owned scotto stop or co owned it with pokka pola and films scotto i. He was giving me information with the frequency that a kosher butcher sells pork chops but over the period of about seven years i had numerous recorded conversations with him during which he told me that an act. One of the hoffa case at hoffa was not picked up by chuckie. O'brien his foster son. That hoffa was picked up by veto. Jack aloni the brother of tony jack. Loney who was one of the three men who hoffa was supposed to meet that day that an act to that it was salvador gulia. Who in fact he'll jimmy hoffa and that an act. Three hoffa was stuffed into a fifty five gallon drums loaded onto a gateway transportation truck and shifted new jersey where he was buried at brother. Mosquitos up there now. I i Yeah i what what happened. Was that i in february of ninety two thousand nineteen. I received a call from a gentleman named parka paula. junior who was the son the youngest son of parka. Pull a senior. Who was who was filming scotus partner at brother. Scotto stop Pokka puller junior is a businessman down in florida and he said he thought that his brother might know something his brother frank might know something. So obviously i wanted an introduction. That introduction didn't come until september of twenty nineteen when i got him on the phone and we had about six conversations over the phone and then i said we've got meet he could. He gave me the whole story. So what happened. Why would he do that. He wa- his father had decided that it was his father who died in two thousand eight gave him. It was his father. Pokka pull a beer. Jimmy hoffa's body and he buried him at brother. Scotto stop actually offsite brother scott up on state property which is under the polaski skyway. Which is the bridge that connects jersey city and newark and so so Parka pull told his son before he died that he wanted hoffa family and that he was that he encouraged his son to look for the opportunity to make that happen and when he heard about me and again i i i. In my opinion i own this case he was talking to the right guy who knew what to do with that information so i said let's get together so i pay for him to come up to a new jersey and He lives out in florida and he said We were having dinner With his girlfriend on september twenty eight two thousand nineteen and he said. That's what i'm going to go to the dump them. I haven't been there for many years. But he told me you know the the mechanics of what had happened. And i said hey man. You're taking me with you. And he said sure so. He picked me up. We go to p. j. p. landfill. We go to where the where the spot where the body is he shows. I've gotta body camera. And i've got a hand in my phone. Where a record the whole thing. He shows me the exact location of where the body is and he says that his father had buried the body in a few in the fifty. Five gallon drum. And then he'd put fifteen to thirty barrel steel barrels on top of it so the next so then frank and i were having dinner in january twenty twenty twenty twenty and why we were having dinner. He was stricken and collapse at the table. Oh new jersey. And then i i i said come on. Let's take the hospital and his girlfriend was there and she took him. He refused to go to the hospital until the following day. Then he then he was he was taking was Medevac to Hackensack medical center. Where he was put on a ventilator put into drug abuse call them oh from what he never came and so he died on march sixteen so we were in a situation where my key source was dead but i have a good friend over. Its fox news. A guy named eric sean. I'm not a big guys. Yeah not a big fan of fox news. But i but eric is a good and trusted friend of mine and eric is really own. This case since Since two thousand one as far as keeping it alive let me put it this way. Eric has kept this case alive since two thousand and one when he started working with frank sharon who was the inspiration for the the irishman or who claims he shot off in the back of the head. Right it's it's it's wonderful movie You know bad history. It's like oliver stone's movie. Jfk great cinema. Terrible history and so So eric and i started working. And i have a team Carson from carson signature films are a mark from ample entertainment again. We're not accepting any money on this thing until the body is recovered and positively identified. I do not want any comparisons to what i'm doing with what geraldo rivera back in. Nineteen that's right in his voice. Al capone's vault no comparison there. I didn't want anything less. I deserve it. what can you do. What can you do to dig up that spot. Well eric eric and i did was we. We got ground radar ground penetrating radar. We went to the spot. Where frank said the body was it was sixty sixty sixty sixty fifty about the size of a little league baseball time and the ground radar equipment detected a twelve by fifteen foot field of of of steel drums. So part of the story is absolutely true them which which means i. I've been cooperating. I mean ultimately this would be. I would be breaking so many laws local state and federal. If i tried to dig singer myself my team bow. Our and my team tried to catch you. Get the feds to do it well. We've we've been cooperating fully with law enforcement. I'm going to use it or lose it situation here right now. So i have been cooperating fully with the law enforcement community and i ll local state and federal level and this is on. This is with them now. I trust these guys. I know they're going to do the right thing. The spot is secure. And i i think that the fbi has her hands full right now. I think everybody will agree to that. 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Inside Brewery Faisan, A Belgian-Inspired Taproom In Detroit's Islandview Neighborhood

Daily Detroit

20:24 min | 1 year ago

Inside Brewery Faisan, A Belgian-Inspired Taproom In Detroit's Islandview Neighborhood

"Daily Detroit is brought to you by the community support our work at Patriotair dot com slash daily Detroit. It's Friday December Thirteenth Twenty nineteen on today's Daily Detroit. We're going to visit the pheasants. Well actually we're headed to a brewery named after a pheasant brewery phase on over on Bo Face Street in Detroit's island view neighborhood and the beer. It was really good so good spin so I'm glad I got to go on this one so good. We did the hard work of afternoon afternoon drinking. So you don't have to okay. We are down in brand new brewery phase on with Owner Rachel Slava. Who owns the place with her husband? Paul and Rachel Welcome to daily Detroit. Thanks for having me. Well thanks for having US and for pouring us a selection of your beers here so first of all congratulations on opening. You've been open since October. Right correct correct. We opened in October. Twenty four tells the story about a brewery face on this is French for pheasant right Which is kind of your logo and everything and we are here on both as street of course but give us the story of like how this came to be? Pheasants are kind of known to be all over to trait so when we purchased this property. Happy about four years ago. We were seeing them around. So that Kinda helped us us. Admit our decision on naming reface on Also there's a lot of French names around Detroit Trey obviously and because we wanted to Belgian beer focus and they speak French in a lot of Belgium. We figured it kind of all kinds of played together pollen. I moved down here over a decade ago actually came down to the city to go to Wayne State and five and we just completely fall in love with Detroit and we basically started home burying ten years ago after winning a chilly Kuka at Kuhnen Warren Put on by Lake A homebrew club out there. And just Really fell in love with brewing and as Detroit. There weren't a lot of breeze and the ones that we have had been around for a very long time. Like this is before batch opened and some others and and And so we just kept kinda seeing like well. Let's see what this would take for us to do it. You know. No one's doing a Belgian focus. And that's what we are the most passionate about. So we started exploring those ideas and Yeah it was a basically a ten year journey to get open from that point. You bought this building actually four years years ago so quite a while what was what was this building before so it was just storage originally when it was built in the sixties it was Rigging Company Company. They didn't crane rigging here. So there's no you'll notice. There's no beams or structural sports throughout which is nice because as big open space so we could design how he's off it so that was appealing to us. And you don't really find warehouses in this size range March where nine thousand square foot. We really only renovated Betas six thousand of it and we also when we purchased it purchased thirty feet lot to the side which we have a some parking and a little patio space as well a lot of warehouses that we looked dat previously where either a lot bigger or too small And a lot of the advice that we were given along the way was to start bigger so new kind of a range of what size we wanted and we found this place it was kind of too good to be true. Most and yeah the family that owned it They own the property across the street in the block and We were talking to them about leasing the space and then they realize how much investment they would need to do to get at white box You know they got a couple of quotes for new roof and then suddenly the tune changed a little bit to. Do you want to buy it. So and that actually was perfect for us because owning the building health does leverage abridging financing and everything so it was important step so this is a pretty interesting location here on buffet in the island view neighborhood kind of out of the way off the beaten path. I I guess you could say and I'm just thinking especially for years ago. This was this was way off the beaten path. Was this a case of like this is kind of what you guys could afford or was this it. Also are you sort of putting a bet on this neighborhood is kind of being sort of a new. I you know up and coming place in. Detroit is definitely a combination of a few things you know when we first started talking about bree we were living in town and we were looking at Cork town. And we've got priced out of there pretty quickly and honestly it was. It was about opening a brewery for us but it was also about being in Detroit so we didn't limit our search to any specific area of Detroit. We sort of just like went where there is opportunity do you. We looked at properties kind of all over the place in our opinion breeze have unique ability to drop people off the beaten path because people seek out burris agrees to visit So we didn't feel much pressure to be an corridor that are developed or already had foot traffic or something like that so part of that Also stemmed from not being wealthy people. You know like we had a budget you know that we really needed to stick to so you know we needed to find something. That was doable for us us. it was very important for you to maintain ownership fully. So we don't have any partners is just us which is kind of wild that we were able to pull that off honestly Knowing all that we know and you were saying your husband. Paul has a nine to five job during the days. Obviously Right Act in. He's going to hang onto that job as long as he can cause We definitely need it. Being grand tells a little bit about Your Beers you're kind of leading with a Belgian style. We've always. He's Love Belgians said before there were there wasn't a very in the city doing Belgians There are a couple of really good ones in the state We used to frequent bass past donen royal oak when it was around and obviously bereaved avant. Yeah we were interested and bringing that Palate to Detroit and kind of having a location location. That was making beer that we like to drink so I think that's a lot of times with entrepreneurs like there's something missing where you are at where you want to be and you gotta fill that void so we're gonNA always try to have at least half if not more over our menu Be Belgians so right. Now we have ten beers we open seven. Five of them are Belgian so we have a German style English island three American Style Beers. And we're just GONNA keep growing from there. The feedbacks been really amazing. So far so people people have been Pretty much all positive reviews which pretty awesome. Yeah I saw that. You've been open long enough to get some yelp and untapped reviews and everything. What's your capacity here like for production So we ended up buying used equipment. It actually came from Livonia. It was Liberty Street brewings production facility business or no they own a brew pub implement and that's their primary business. They'd open in the production facility to manage fulfill their distribution contracts basically and that was the side of the business that they were no longer enjoying when we met them and they just essentially wanted to offload that piece of the business so I was sort of a right place right time because we were looking for equipment. That was the same sizes is what they were trying to sell. So it's just a matter of running into the right person and making a couple of phone calls in it somehow worked out which was really good because it saved us a nice chunk to get going but It's fifteen barrel system with thirty barrel fermenters so so far are average batch sizes men ten to fifteen miles and so we're not feeling the fermenters paramenters yet because we wanted to open with a lot of styles and not just you know make a ton of one beer we are planning on self distributing as long as we can because that's easiest thing to do right now The way the laws are but you. You have to be under a certain like barrels per year to be able to do that. So we're going to Get into that shortly but but hopefully get some kegs around and see what happens. Suny Ray you're saying That right now. You're strictly on premise sales right. But you're looking to expand that a little a bit in the near term correct so right now we're just selling beer in the tasting room either by the half or full poor and We just added on sixteen ounce canning candy so we can do to go cans four packs or singles of any of the beers we offer. We have done a couple kegs out to events things like that but we would like to start getting getting a couple of contracts around town. We have some interest at certain bars in doing it on ourselves. We can be really picky and who gets to beer. We WanNa make sure it's someone who cleans their beer lines lines and treats puree of it's nice to be small because you can control you know. Basically everything ultimately is your goal though to to you know a pair with a distributor when when you get big enough and celliers around the state or not necessarily not necessarily that model is sort of really difficult right. Now there's been a lot of news news stories recently about closures and big established brands having issues with that and I believe a lot of that is due to the distribution laws in Michigan. Other states states are different and harassing much faster and better growth than we are here so I think that's a lot to do with it recently. Easter market brewing did that campaign to partitioned to try to raise the self distribution. And there's a reason they were doing that. The state of Ohio is limit is way higher than are in there doing great down there. So we're like the lowest list cap on distribution of any you know midwestern state that's definitely had an effect on on us. And you know really you're always gonNA make the most money on the beer direct to consumer out of your tasting room so it was very important for us to create a really cool space set. People WanNa hang out him so we spent a lot of time and energy energy focusing on making the taproom cool you know like we we want to be here so we think people will do. That's definitely focused right now and everything else is like added on basically. What kinds of things are you doing to get people in the door? I know you. You don't do food here but I think you're inviting food trucks like at least on the weekends and things like that right. Yes certainly. There is actually several burris air. Now that do food trucks so it's a little easier now than it used to be. It's becoming more commonplace so we are getting on a couple of rotations for the really popular runs and we're starting out trying to get everyone basically Friday and Saturdays. 'cause that's our busiest night. You know we want food truck. You make money do so we're trying to you know Make everybody happy We also really want to focus and partner with other small businesses in the city that are trying to get started last weekend. We have coriander kitchen here ear and they're trying to open a restaurant in an old marina on the east side or at the corner of the river. Alter yeah I mean anyway we can help all right very cool and we should. We should talk a little bit about the interior and sort of set the scene for our listeners. You've got a nice checkmark shaped bar. I guess for lack of a better way to describe the shape hot hockey stick. Yeah that's good. I like that. Okay I read that the furniture here. These are often reclaimed wood. From what I understand. Yes yeah so our good friends Clear and Wayne who ran. Mutual adoration and Post Detroit they had the opportunity to reclaim would from the Packard plant and designed signs some beautiful tables for us and they're just gorgeous and then the chairs that we have are real vintage sixties and Ebay. Find of Paul's. So we love those two. And then the Bar Concrete Barshop that Paul and I and I have some friends poured ourselves and we tiled everything so anywhere that we could you know. Put our own sweat equity into this business. We did that and we're really happy with how turned out. It's going to be really nice. I don't know if you had any oppurtunity. Having opened in October two to use the patio. But that's going to certainly add a new element when the weather turns right definitely will and we just have a guy that started a mural outside to have some kind of eye-popping color when you turn up from Latvia to the block which is nice because we don't have much visibility yet. We just have like a little sandwich. Birdsong we pull up front And it's like I said before it's a destination like it's not too hard now because everyone has. GPS on their phone. They can figure it out but Definitely get some funny joke from people who get dropped off by lift or Uber. And they're like. Where are you taking me as well? I think you're going there It was really important for us to kind of open up the space as it was a pretty dark. And you know damp warehouse and we OUGHTA and we figured if we put the glass roll up door that'd be a great way to bring late in and also visibility actually right when we put that on. We started meeting all of our neighbors. Or like what's going on here and people drive through here as think it's really quiet but a lot of these buildings have active businesses inside. Even though you can't really tell from the outside and on top of that you've got you know lots of Residential Jefferson as well as were in proximity to Lafayette Park and West village and there are a lot of people living in i-love-you still So they've been kinda stopping in and and telling us how excited I didn't have a a neighborhood bar finally 'cause it hasn't really been much over here for quite a while. Every neighborhood needs a good bar. That's for sure which brings us to maybe the most important thing which is the beard. That's why people are coming here right. So you've generously poured a selection of your offerings. What should we start with here so I Ford just to start us off my five Belgians which are a wit beer a bell go palay call it? And then I've got a double a triple and a Raspberry Cezanne or so I'm GonNa Start with the lightest color here and this is which one no quantity wit beer and so with meaning wheat beer. Yes as this up we base and then we did coriander and orange peel which is a lot of people really like it. But there's always like that one person it's like this is now that I think of what I like coriander and get definitely get the orange in there for sure it's It's very smooth. Very smooth what I got going on here now the SANILAC which is our Belbow pail. So it's GonNa be a little sweet up front will multi in the middle and a little happy in the Finnish and Sanlakas in like the name of the town Michigan correct correct so our our beer names are kind of all over the place and they're definitely they have meaning to pollinate but Sanlakas location of a family cottage. Alright bottoms up skull. Nice The you're right very subtle on the hops. A lot of Belgian pails that I've tried are a little bit more aggressively hoppy but this is nice. It's it's good a little bit of Funky news from the Belgian yeast. And that's what I think always sets apart Belgian beers. You've got all those week esters you from specifically from using Belgian use that that mix interestingly when especially when you apply it to like a something as simple as a Pale rescue. It strikes me as a really nicely balanced spirits. Really good okay. So the next time you have the double and this one is definitely a very popular with Belgian fans but a lot of people who come in here and say. I've never liked a Belgian login beer before but I tried your double and I love that beer. It's so I think it's kind of approachable. That way doubles traditionally like a little darker a little multi a little sweeter. So I think it's a crowd-pleaser for sure multi. It's good like it comes in at about seven point. One percent callsas a little higher alcohol. But it doesn't have that alcohol alcohol flavor that you get sometimes with higher Ab. So I definitely get the caramel apples in this one yum. This is a tough job. Probably be hard to believe but we had a lot of volunteers as we were building out the space for beer tasting. Is the number one request. Do Respite while you're developing your recipes. Now these backups or triple. This one's called false dawn cracking eight eight and a half percent It is the traditional triple style. So it's golden it's thick strong it's Ours is a definitely a lighter in color and body body then like some of the other triples that are prolific in the area It's more to style for what we would look for in a triple for our personal taste. definitely play like bump up the carbonation level a little bit of that style as well so I get like an aroma. This may sound crazy but of like smoked meats like almost like a barbecue grill or something. I love love this because my bartender last night told me. She smelled olives and I smell riding on. Yeah but I smell like pineapple just so all over the place. Yeah but everybody brings something new to it. But that's the thing about beer is very subjective but the thing about Belgian yeast and Belgian beers particularly they offer really complex noses then flavor so I think whatever your palate is what you're going to pick up the most that's a nice chewy beer good earnings and then finally for our last Belgian. This is number five. We have the periphery. which is I- Raspberry Cezanne coming? In at seven point three percent alcohol so traditional sesana recipe and we Dumped Raspberry into it and it fully attenuated down to almost zero so it has very little residual sugar and sweetness. So it's a super dry for beer which I think is pretty rare. Yeah you might expect it to be sweet. But it's not at all people tend to say like it smells like it's going to be sweet because they smell l. the raspberry but then when you taste it that sugar is not there so let's be nice like warm weather quaffing mirror one. It's a hot summer day out and are these most so this is gonna be like year round. Are you going to be kind of rotating in and out and try new things. What's the plan there? We don't really have a plan because I think it's counterintuitive a two-day to start out with the flagship beer and tell people what your bestseller is. I think you kind of have to let your customers. Decide what they like you know. We've got obviously software to track. What sells the best So far spend that Raspberry Sesana pre and then our coffee stout which it is stout season we opened right when the weather turned cold. So it kind. That makes sense that one selling really well. We did a steep ten pounds of ash coffee supply beans and like we're sampling it You know every couple of hours like levels and we ended up deciding at ten thirty PM that it was ready for a keg so we actually pulled an all nighter to kick that beer. So I'm very relieved. I believe that it's selling well because it was. It was a labor of love to make a Fisher all right so last one. I'M GONNA try. Is your coffee stout excited to try this. One definitely smell the coffee beans from the glass. It's really nice really roasted chocolate. Less nice I mean being a coffee fi lover like and a beer lover like what's not to love about that one that's good clocks five point one percent to so it's a little more sessional for folks that want a few beers all right. Well thanks so much for all the tastings would times. Are you guys open. I mean what. Where can people find? More information We were getting ready to open the brewery. Paul learned how to Code and built the website and I did all the design for it is to design for our logo and all of the mercury have for sale things like that. So please go to our website and check it out. It's REF- as on dot com and on it We've got some cool dropdown menus. What we keep an updated draft list of all the styles and any announcements estimates for what food we have coming up that weekend? Things like that. We are always updating facebook and instagram with our latest so finest on there as well every phase is on and we're open Tuesday through Thursday four to ten Friday Saturday noon to midnight and Sunday noon to eight closed on Mondays. Well original saga at reface. Reface on thanks so much for having us down in playing us with your beers appreciate it all right friends. That's going to do it for today's show. I'm spend gossips. And I'm Jerry stays. Thanks to our members who make tissue possible you can join them at Patriot dot com slash daily Detroit. Remember that we love you. Take care of each other and we'll see you around Detroit.

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Wandering Soul Beer Co. with founder Matt Smith

Beer Guys Radio Craft Beer Podcast

44:00 min | 2 months ago

Wandering Soul Beer Co. with founder Matt Smith

"This episode in every episode of the beer guy's radio show is brought to you by ironmonger brewing visit ironmonger at their taproom in marietta georgia or online at ironmonger brewing dot com. Opened up a tab. Grab a seat and pour a pint. It's time for the beer. Guy's radio show or free beer brewery dedicated to the art science and enjoyment of craft beer. You what's wrong with the we got now here. Are your host tim. Dennis and brian hewitt and welcome to the beer. Guy's radio show. We are broadcasting from. The beer is radio studios in marietta georgia and this week. We're talking with wandering soul beer company. I am tim denison with me as always my good friend and co host brian hewitt. Hey tim joining us. Today we have matthew smith the owner of wandering soul beer company. We're gonna talk about gypsy. Bruin collaboration and probably hops matthew. Thanks for joining us. Thank you very much for having me. I appreciate it absolutely meant good times crack into some of your beers. Have some good conversation here and we like to start out with just a little chatter. Yes and we try and pick a fun topic to chat on in brian. I believe you found something that is near and dear to your heart. I yes i am quite the fan. I heard that you play in a band. is this true matt. Yeah that is true and still even with the barrier blend in the sky. Ben now well taking a little break from it but i mean you can see guitar of you. People on ready will have to trust us radio. Yes qatar is we can vary. Yes yes so. I used to play scott banned in new jersey called the blithering idiots and scott punk band and you know it got pretty serious to the point where a lot of the other guys moved up here to massachusetts to start a new another band and they convinced me to move up here from new jersey. That's actually the reason. I moved here from new jersey was to play in a band called stem which became a band called stereo grow but yet i played in a few different scott bands. Played the tar. so what were your musical influences. A lot of traditional scott music you know like the scott lights from jamaica. Then a of scott punk like rubik fish less than jake map to toasters goldfinger goldfinger. Yeah all that stuff. A lot of the stuff. Coming out of the new york scott. Because i was in new jersey west coast of cat and slackers new york stuff like that. There is so much more sky out there any idea. So i was into like late seventies eighties punk and i think. Mdc was kind of a little scott punk sorta in their dino mdc matt does it stand for something it does. But i can't say it on the radio or we're just going stop now so so yes so but they were pretty popular. But i think light sky influence probably more punk. You know what's interesting is there was a i think it was. I don't know if it's top. Forty got some airplay locally. At least i think in some of the satellite was the interrupters scott punk bandits. Yeah new way. I heard this on the radio. I'm like in today times. The twenty twenty. One did a cover of a billy irish song. Oh yeah so. Do they sound like they could have walked right out of nineteen ninety seven in california. So i'm pretty happy about we'll see most of my scott knowledge is like squirrel nut. Zippers suit. Riot stuff Cherry pop retro wing. But all right there. And some scott influences. I think that you if you see a bunch of horns in a band like that scotland but yeah the dance. The mud influences for sure. But yeah i mean. I love that music. It's more like reggae. i gravitated more towards like dub Okay we had christopher glenn with bottle share on the show with this last week and before the show we were playing some music and i was like. What do you like to listen to. And he said white boy reggae like what he's like he's like let me just show you so. I'm learning so much so much. Education have thought you knew everything there was to know about music. Yeah we'll matt. When brian starts his skull podcast to have you back on this past the scott cast that probably exists already. Probably does well tim. I think it's time for us to get in the of the week now. It's time for our beers if the week brought to you by the net craft beer and barbecue and downtown kennesaw georgia the nest kennesaw dot com. Well brian as always great list of beers to get into here. We do want to thank our friends at the nest for in this segment wings. Barbecue craft beer. Brian yes nest tober fest coming up there. Presale tickets on right now more info on that coming soon so this week. We've got a great selection from wandering soul brian. Where currently sipping their melody maker northeast. Ip we have coming up. They're young mouse. Which is a belgian l. with mango. We have things we don't say matt we'll get into that with a little more. I know there's a story behind that beer as well. The things we don't say from the wreckage imperial stout you got to wrap it up with a stout co star for summer brian. That's right and it's prime stout drinking in season right now. That is a true so yeah some really good stuff to get into definitely gonna enjoy that so prime. Won't you let us know what's happening in the news. What's in the news. The beer guys have the scoop time for headlines. I think we all knew the stay would come. I'm not sure if it really has or not. But cnn is reporting that the hard seltzer craze has come to an end staying that the once unstoppable growth of heart seltzer has gone flat on quotes. And they're basing a good part of that on the hit that boston. Beer company's truly hard seltzer pad in the second quarter of this year. Boston beer company missed their projections. And shipments were down by about ten to twenty five percent from their original projections. Boston beer company blames a softer market following. Last year spending patterns where people were basically buying everything they could find filling up all the clippers. Today home drank up exactly. They were also increasing Consumer confusion that that's their term consumer confusion based upon the increasing number of options. Basically these people don't know that they should be buying truly apparently confused sumer confusion. How confusing craft beer. That's exactly then. This follows the seltzer brands largest ever advertising campaign so all that advertising really didn't save him but it did chip away at a. They're white clause slight lead in the market so there within about ten percent of white claw at the number two spot similar headlines have been all over the place beyond cnn bloomberg yahoo. I've seen it reposted everywhere. Everybody's kind of enjoying new salacious news. But i'm not really sure. I believe that the craze is over yet. I think that somebody mr projections. It may not be done now. Trust me i'm okay. If it is done. I want my shelf space back for craft beer. But i don't know if. I believe we're there yet. That's probably the easiest way for boston. Beer company to you know to wipe little egg off the face there in not hitting projections. The confused consumers aren't drinking as much seltzer. Exactly ryan so that's it. There's so many options they don't know which ones to buy. So we're seeing our projections because they're buying that local option. They just don't realize mad. Have you got into the seltzer game there at wondering saw have you done a seltzer afraid. Add yeah see I've never personally really understood the seltzer thing. Yeah but what. I will say i have never put out a seltzer. I've experimented with making other beverages other than beer. Would i'd love to see happen seltzer. Is that it splits into some different categories that are brand new. Because i think that there's actually some opportunities out there for other beverages that are have alcohol or carbonated. Might even have ops used to maybe some fruit things like that. I've experimented in my lab with Actually one russo. Wasn't even going to be a beer. Company was going to be something else. I just didn't know what to call it. So i still tinker around with that stuff but yeah i mean i love to see seltzer. Kinda like morph into some instances a new stuff for people. There's a lot of things you can do to create beverages with without alcohol. There's all sorts of things you can do is. Is he flavored water with alcohol. And you know what i think. Maybe that's the way we'll start the next segment. We're going to talk about some of those alternative experiments. He had there. Yeah yes. I'm on board with the ready to drink. Cocktail some of them. I really liked this gin and tonic by cut water. I really liked that. I liked that a great deal. It's carbonated and i don't know that it's not necessarily high falutin but it's really i don't. I don't remember who owns cut water. Which changed it because it used to be part of ballast point. Yeah but so back in the day. Like pre billion dollar buyout. I think it was included in that. I don't think it was either. But i don't know if ballast point themselves still own it or someone else you've got it. Do you happen to know matt. Do you know who's got cut water now pools. I think you might be right on. You know it's either ballast point where there's a brewery down near you guys thought. Yeah i forget who's got him now. Probably somebody but i guess the point being yes. They're rtd cocktails are pretty taste. Yes so definitely enjoying well. You are listening to the beer. Guy's radio show. We do need to take a break but we'll be back very soon with more from wandering soul. Beer company have visit ironmonger. Bruin recently take a trip and see the newly renovated in spaces. 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Now back to the beer guy's radio show welcome back. The beer guy's radio show remember. All episodes are available on demand. So if you missed the broadcasts get the podcast beer guys. Radio is available all popular and unpopular podcasting apps. Now let's get back to wandering soul beer company so matt before we went to break there. We were talking about Things that aren't beer or aren't seltzer. And you've done playing around. So what the what has happened in the laboratory there while my then a few different things you know. I've had some ideas that didn't work out some. That did so for example when i had an idea to do something that was gluten free. It was basically in the like a fruit wine category where i was basically making. For example pineapple pineapple juice matting some sugar and treating it as if it was a wine but was actually heating it up in adding some oxford little bitterness and Drop to fermented with a beer yeast just to see what happen and it tasted like beer interesting interesting. So as that pineapples impeaches. I need wind for a little bit and i may need and i've done one percent alcohol beer two percent beer three percent beer for just kinda messing around with all these crazy ideas. A lot of them didn't work you know sure. Yeah but some of them did. Aren't you familiar with the website. Read it yet okay. So there is a sub read it. That is basically guys who ferment. Whatever liquid will ferment. Is that prison hooch. Is that minority. Like their goal is to be as ridiculous as they can with it. Like a hawaiian punch. Just crazy stuff. I don't even remember what the craziest ones. But basically if it's the liquid and there's enough sugar into ferment. I one dude even did chicken broth and just added sugar to get. Have you ever firm in a chicken. Broth that i haven't done okay. I know a brewery has used hot dog water to make beer. So that's the thing. Have you tried hot dog water. I understand that's i heard about that. I've never tried that little. You can't take that idea it's too much gold right there. Yeah that's not too far removed from just dumping all this stuff into the well kettle. Yeah i did prison time. Before i got into homebrew in where i just took a various fruits and i tried to prison as possible so i had different fruits and i think had ketchup packets. Nice because i think that's what they'll use for for some sugars in yeast. I think they'll just use bread in that area. You know what to say so. I put the fruit and the liquid all that jar. The ketchup packets. You know oranges limes in that. And then the high at hamburger buns. And i gotta say it really and truly was absolutely horrible. This was ranked like like. I just go sober if i was in prison. And that's all i could do. Yeah certain point. I was the lowest brow thing that we ever tried. When we're home bring that actually turned out really well was that skater. P. thing when you ferment le- lemon juice in the wine. All hard limited eleven wine and it's It worked out pretty well. You know not high falutin you pour it over some ice but like right now when it's hot out it's nice freshman very -freshing good stuff. We'll we'll matt wandering so beer company and talk about the beer here so you're brewery started as kind of. I hope i use this right. Like therapy for yourself was the brewing and that kind of sprouted into a brewery for you correct. Yeah that's the form that it took and that was all a factor of timing with personal life events. But you know. I've been in the beer industry for about ten years or so. That's crazy to say that. But i've worked for a number of different other breweries doing a little bit of everything from production to sales accounting. Really legal stuff. Anything that needs to get done so bounced around a lot and then You know i was actually working for brewery two thousand seventeen when we lost our first daughter and her name was melanie. You know when. I say we lost her daughter. She didn't pass away traditional sense. Basically she was still born with my. My wife was about almost full-term more than thirty five weeks pregnant and we just found out that we lost her. So yeah that was a twenty seventeen in my life to be on his kind of fell apart. I didn't know what was going badly my job. I wasn't sure if i'd ever come back and injured a really dark time. And so two ground myself. I decided you know. I was working on a recipe. Anyway that ended up becoming melody maker. My had done a bunch of versions of it and decided that winter in two thousand seventeen. I was going to try to start a brewing project and try to put out a beard. Honor her to have a legacy for her of some sort. And that's what ended up happening. That's how the whole thing started. Basically it was sort of a way for me to deal with that experience. And so each bure i've done you know is dedicated to a person or a concept and told people like the entire time. I've been running wandering soul. You have grief is a thing that never really goes away. You know you process it in different ways right and you carry people with you in different ways throughout your life. The honor them the best you can. So that's what this has been for me. It's heavy stuff. And i know that you try to ride the line of like being transparent with people and trying to do something good and raising money for charities and having a legacy but also trying not to be too heavy because it's beer people. I think a lot of people pick up a can of beer read. What's on the label. They expected either. Laugh at something or just have a good time with him. We can still do that. You know there's a lot of people who drink melody maker anymore. Beards not note story and that's totally fine with me. The beer is what it is being behind each fear. There's a lot that went into it. So yeah that's kind of how it started. Sorry for your loss. of course. yeah yeah seriously. I think it's good beer. Was there for you to have something kind of an outlet at the time and you know like a beer with a story like melody maker. i like knowing you know what. I'm drinking beer. I think it's it's really cool to know the story behind it work came from and we're currently drinking young mouse. You shared with us kind of on break about your nephew. And that's his nickname. So that honors him and the cool artwork on the label is his work. I believe you got a four year. Old label artists there. And that's a bad deal. Yeah he's a really special person really inspiring to me and he's had that it's all right there on the can about what what i'm trying to do here. What we're trying to do to my amazement. Though when i started this thing i wasn't sure it was going to just be one batch of melody maker and that was it so like i literally got all my like my federal state permits and everything took a long time. Just brute one just one on one kind of dedication right is man gets that if doing the paperwork right to get those permits. That's what kept me grounded. Like i'm gonna do this and just to see if i could do it just to see if i could get these permits to do what i do. I didn't think i was going to get them. And so when they showed up there. When i got the call was like. Here's your state. I was floored. Because i was like i guess this is. This might actually app guessing. Wanna start a brewery. I guess at what point did you realize like i'm gonna have to start making some other beers. I'm like was it towards the end there. We're now starting to add them. It's funny the first beer went over really well melody maker and it sold out in. These are thirty barrel batches. Typically when i started they were thirty bureau batches at six hundred fifty cases self distributed. I do everything myself i do. You know. I'm the only employees that i have so delivered. The first batch in a honda accord i started at my house in beverly kegs too but anyway the beer sold out. I went really well started. See people responding to it so we it again. In april two thousand seventeen same thing happened and then it was kind of like all right now. What where do we go from here. You've been around longer than i thought. I thought it was like two years seventeen. We're we're going on four years at this point. Sorry about twenty seventeen is when the idea started. This token nineteen was the year when like melody maker was released into the market. Okay okay that's cool. I mean hey it's good that it was that popular and kept you. Here is better than the turn of the for sure right. It's surprise me. I mean it was really humbling. Things we don't say was the second bay. We put out but that recipe. I thi- through together Overnight good stuff you know what man when we come back when you talk a little bit about things. We don't say there so you are listening to the beer. Guy's radio show. We do need to take a break but we'll be back very soon with more from wandering soul beer company. Brian and tim the beer guys. If you're like us no launcher dinners complete without a partner to of craft beer which is why truck and tap in downtown woodstock. Alfred and duluth are always on our list. Tim why do they call it. Truck and tap will. The top part is easy brian. They've got eighteen of them as for the truck part. That's where it gets interesting truck and tap features your favorite atlanta area food trucks to. You're getting a different menu. 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Oh ninety three point seven fm in brunswick georgia catch beer guys. Renewing w bq. Oh every saturday one pm now. Let's get back to wandering soul beer company. Matt smith wondering soul beer company. Matt were onto another be here. We are drinking your things. We don't say. I know we've talked about this. A little bit before But keeping with your theme of having a story behind the beer. Can you tell us a little bit about things. We don't say shirley beer it's a double. Ipa's eight percent. It was a little bit out of my wheelhouse when i first designed that recipe but so the opposite change it's on its fourth version but it landed in a place right thing off keep it. It's a blend of oxidized. I really likes the mosaic. In there is pretty heavy on the mosaic centennial. Eldorado in vic secret. Which is a hop that i love but basically the idea behind the names things. We don't say came to me as the second year that we put out when i say we. It's not just me right. Like i'm brewing. My beer at other people's breweries. So i rely on their equipment. I rely on their staff rely on their canning line. Do you with several breweries or do you just have one. You've partnered with it's changed. Its several. don't okay the good old gypsy brewer. it's become gypsy brewing. Okay and i started brewing stuff at castle island brewing in norwood mass and then i bumped over to bent water brewing in lynn. Now going back to castle island but still bring that water and i'm also bringing old planners ear. Beverly have done like five collaboration beers. And there's going to be other beers that are made at other people's breweries that are already in the works but basically things you don't say was the whole concept. It's a concept beards about the things that people go through in life that they're you know maybe afraid to talk about because they don't wanna make somebody sad and i know that with me would happen for us like with melody. Traditionally that experience is not really talked about you know Especially from the perspective of being a a man. Because i think women are probably better being opened with things like this especially emotional things but you know being a man like supposed to be the strong lawn and you know like hydra motions and brush everything under the carpet and like. Don't make anybody sad. You know so. I realized very early on in my experience was losing melody. That approach was not going to work for me of keeping quiet about it side. Just kind of let milo emotions just kinda like flow right through knee and it happened to flow right of the beer. You know so is an emotional thing but yet things don't say it was kind of encouragement to that's why it says english dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. Doc is that symbolizes all the things that we just don't talk about it is kinda stay stuck in our heads. It's thoughts they never really entered the world as you know things that we actually discuss. I think you should encourage people to fill out the dot dot dot and like You know put on their things that they don't symbolically opening the can is saying the things that aren't you go. Tim is writing on the can. Right i mean you could even send a message to someone on the can that. Maybe you wouldn't want to say you're lucky my pancakes say what i want to say. Is that safe for radio. Thanks i guess why was right on the can right. Can't radio one of those phrases that can have so. Many different meanings icon tariff. That like people could look at me like out things. You don't say like bad words and stuff like that you know things are gonna make them laugh so that need also that name that was going to be abandoning actually a band. No okay. that's too bad. That's a shame. More of a met more medals. Things don't skank yes. Yeah but that beer change is changed a few times. Yes the only wpa that i've done and you know i've temporary it's my best selling beer. I'd say melody maker's right behind actually have a change dot org petition to ban eldorado hop. So i hate to. I was going to bring up to say that. They're they're polarizing heads. Have people complaining about before him. Of now i mean so the thing with el dorado is if you're using too much of them or using them in part of the process where they're going to extract more of the oils more roth flavor. They can get very very pungent very in your face. And some of the flavors at it throws off are not necessarily good. I think that i've grown to really like that hop in it's only in the dry up. I think if you use eldorado home outside of bruin you'll get a different character but it's pretty raw. It'd be careful with it. You know also when you blend with other hops it takes on a different persona to single hop beer with eldorado. He sounds like the worst thing ever see. I'm i know you dig. The way comes out. I know that one of the big brewers in the area got rid of it. They had eldorado for a particular lee high profile. Wpa and decided. They did not care for the brewer. Told us pretty point blank. I don't like eldorado. And i won't use it again exactly. Yes yes then you gotta you gotta remember too that like with eldorado every crop years different with any hop any cropper's germs. Bright galaxy hops when galaxy hops got big last year's crop Twenty twenty tastes different than when galaxy hopscotch real big. You know an end not only the crop year but the law like specific thought where it came from not only the former came from the plan where it came from the soil where it came from. So you know exactly and if you can break it down so far so like eldorado. You can have it from two different suppliers to different Different this is getting to be like battleship with hop contracts. I want centennial from be twenty. Three twenty three gimme that bingo so and you know what the the way like rain collects and miss collects and all that sort of a. It's possible that that could be different. So it'll be a little a little gully one place where a little bit. More water collects. Those hops will be just a little bit different than the rest of the ones in the other field. So you know matt. We've had conversations about hop selection and and about how some brewers may go out there and try. Let's say they're trying. You know citra or whatever and they try to like. Wow this is the best batch of sicher we've ever had. This is fantastic. But the one we want is this lot and not because it's the best but that's the hop that tastes like the sitter. They've been using so keep. The beer tastes familiar. There you know. And maybe they'll get some of those number one the best one ever for maybe some side batches but if you're in a big production beer you just want the consistency there. This is this this tastes like last year sitter the sitter before that it's like an age-old battle. It's a question at every brewer kind of Has to ask himself or or herself is am i brewing beers for other people for myself. Chur hand you know because you have to cater to the flavors the palace. What's out there will be kind of at the same time you know. I've root beers that. I don't like personally. You know for me. Things we don't say is not. It's oppa my listed. Amir the i personally like but it's a lot of people's favorite People the best fear. They are at so. It's like you know so. I've tweaked it to so that i like it. Mahar improved it for yourself. That makes sense. Yes but it's kind of writing that balance of like the beers that you wanna make that that you would drink at any point versus what you think other people are going to be into. You know we've seen more than a handful of berries out and said i'm going to be an only and sober ori and have a long. Maybe seven ten years ago. That came out and they're like we're just going to belgians. That's it belgian style beer. That's it. I'm down for it. You know and yeah but not the general population necessarily so you know you get on there. And you do your. Ip a and your fruited berliners such in one case. I'm thinking about you. Rule one paleo and out sells everything. Well maybe there's something we need like. Okay fine fine. We'll do something else but you know the of course you can have that happy. Mix of sticking to your pleasing yourself please. The the masses there. So yeah i think there's a balance there just no eldorado hops. As long as you're gonna go chains rest. Thank you thank you. I appreciate it. Good stuff that is a good point to break on goodbye eldorado. You're listening to the beer. Guy's radio show and we'll be back right after this. He's here in the nets and kennesaw. Georgia has plenty of outdoor space for you. Enjoy a cold beer and some tasty barbecue. They've got forty eight taps of great beer wine cider and even hard tsars plus an impressive craft cocktails. 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The guy's radio show if you enjoyed the show. Please consider supporting us on. Patron just go to patriots dot com slash. Beer guys patriots. Get cool perks. Like beer guys. Swag and commercial free episodes. Now let's get back to wandering soul beer company so man. I wanted to ask you something going back to a little bit earlier when we were talking about the gypsy brewing. How much of a challenge is it for you to brew a beer on different systems. Each time i mean like going to. Let's say melody maker from one system to the other easy. Is it to transfer that recipe. That's a great question. And it's not easy. You know the homebrew versions of that. Beer versus what they are now. Working at castle island versus dan water. You know the water is different. The systems are different. The process is different. People have different really a lot of things different you know. The east strain changed and versus the homebrew batches. Like the cool thing. Was that when we. I grew the deer castle islands. It ended up tasting like the version. Twenty homebrew patchett. I gotcha but it took a long time to get there like to figure out. Like how are we gonna do the whirlpool hops dry. Op the water the yeast when we drop it. All that stuff temperature was pretty much tried to follow the homebrew batch recipes. Much good but yeah it's been it's fun. Let's fund abreu beers different places. You know sure but yet consistency is something. I have really tried to do a good job with pretty happy with how it's worked worked out. But sometimes i'm making you know changing these recipes as we go. Yeah you know melody maker. Hasn't really changed but not a great question. I mean values. Mcdonald's is an example even budweiser any big company that aims to replicate that same product. That all different another facilities around the world and get it to taste the same. Yes are doing it on a large scale. I can't imagine you know what i mean on the scale i met you. It's good to have a little more right budweiser's pretty good at it. But oh yeah. Mcdonald's they just fly by the seat of their pants. No telling what you're going to get there now to ship. All the ingredients almost almost premade. You'll all you have to do. Is actually just warm them up at the local place so man and even still. It's different it is. You never know you never know. I should preface by saying. I've never worked at mcdonalds. So don't know how they do it but they have a skill in making sure. It's russian roulette from restaurant to restaurant. Yeah they've really captured that excitements of never knowing what's exciting. Yeah good stuff. Matt you mentioned to us on break a little bit talking about kind of the format bruin different locations and all that you said that there are some changes coming up from wondering saw. What's in store for the future there. When i started this thing. I kind of Wanted to always be based in beverly. There's a shed behind my house. I have the federal state permits for literally shed by my house and most recently just like a month ago or leslie put out i. I made this beer called that light in the dark. here it is. I know some people won't be able to see that but it's a lovely bottle. Very look nice. Dig silvery silhouette on it. It looks like it could be a stout or like that. It's a barrel aged. Sour beer teaches that took a year and a half to make. It was brewed before college. Sat in a barrel for a year at my house and i added peaches. It was the first out under wondering cells. Collaboration might friend. Neil jilted skull brewing. Who he and. I are friends that we've kind of each other out but i'm going to be doing a lot more collaborations and that's already in the works. But i'm gonna be going back to my roots to castle island brewing norwood to make some beers arrogant where i've been brewing bent water. And you're the distribution side of this has changed everything myself. The self distribute in the bent water was kinda help david distribution companies. There guys were helping. And then we're doing big batches and i was shipping out of state which had gone reasonably well. Last year was a really good year for wandering soul even with covert but brewing one. Beer a month. As i've stuck to that since two thousand nineteen going to still stick to that but there's gonna be some more real small bachelet experimental stuff that i can't brew thirty barrel batch of but i can do here or somewhere else. So that's really. How is changing. It's still early me. I used to be the guy showing up delivering all the beer myself and i had some help from a company that does that. And it's going to go back to me. Be in the the guy showing up with the beer myself. So you know i gotta say it's pretty cool though that you're in a location where you can so you can brew from your shed behind your house distribute fan. That's i say so. I i did a bottle release It's called. it's called a light in dark. There was a line of people. They had to get the address via an online form. That's crazy larry. So there was a line of people in cars down the street and it's fully legal. They just can't drink the beer here but they can purchase the beer from leave. He's the legal dope man man inside the neighborhood when we were home brewing. Could if we could have sold it out of your garage how much different things would be technical. We might be running a brewery instead of doing a radio. Show up here. We just passed laws. Like in thousand seventeen here matt to allow some direct cells. That are breweries. And you know we talked about in different laws. To where you don't have to distribute you can just do cells from moore. You don't have to have a distributor because before in georgia you sure couldn't have one is interested in you know that you had to have a distributor to sell your beer at all. But you know. I talked to the gillis kodi like get a small space. Get the licenses and do like you said one batch a month. Or what. Have you do small batches and just sell them out on my taproom there you know. Maybe i'm open one day a week two days a week or whatever and they're like well technically yes you could. But they're like as soon as you try something like that. You know the dr is gonna find a way to close up some louis. Yeah the everything changes when people are drinking on premise. At your place everything changes as soon as as soon as money exchanges hands. There's tax stuff that needs to be accounted for but you know the license i have. It says right on it that i can sell directly. Let's pretty cool too. You know i can sell to. Wholesalers sell retailers oregon sell to consumers. That's amazing georgia may not happen in. I'm so jealous. How different things would have been not saying. I don't like what we're doing here but you know what it would have been pretty cool. Once upon a time. I would have really enjoyed that. We've got it better than we used to have here. But we're not there to the finished owned by hitting me. No not even close not yup so any plans down the road in the future like sitting down some sort of roots and a like i. I guess you have a kind of a permanent. You've gotta shed there that you can brew out of but like a more formalized tap room type of thing are you looking at that or is that you're not interested in that you wanna keep doing a a beer month shed. I wouldn't call it permanent think that lightning could strike. That thing. Tonight would blow. You could fall apart any moment. It's a very small shed so yeah. It's definitely something. I'm looking into having my own spot you know. I've been spending actually years. Doing sort of passively. And i have a town in mind here the been talking to for a long time now There's a part of the state of mass where there's a lot of people that live in his. No breweries there. Who so that's definitely on my radar and you know it's just something where doing everything myself. It's a require me to change the structure of this business. And you know it's going back to how i started this thing. What it means to me giving ownership to investors and stuff like that kinda hard for me you know what i mean. Changes the game a good. Yeah yeah yeah so especially with the personal aspect of it. So i go back and forth man like you know one day wake up. I wanted to do this wages. Gypsy brew and just go anyone. That'll avenues. just keep doing it this way the next day. Wake up. And i'm like man. I am leading so much money on the table. Because i have all these people coming to me because like the only way you can get my beers now is in stores or bars. And what if. I cut that and just said. Hey you gotta come here. Now come to the source. So i'd have a kind of a built in crowd. I've been blown away humbled by the following. I have here. it's beyond whatever whatever thought about saying. I'm like you know. Sam adams what like. It's beyond what i ever thought it would be. I can't believe i'm still doing this for a living. It's it's it's incredible. Get you some barstools and some tiki torches for the shed and boom. You've got your taproom rica. they couldn't drink it. They can just pass close bottles. They can't cricket there. Okay dick and pretend they're drinking. Give them a glass of water in the cheers with that while there. Well the good thing. Is this ties into our conversation last week he you could sell an nf nfc for virtual barstool and so they could drink your beer from home at your virtual bar. There you go. Yeah everybody wins. Everybody ways. that's right. I'm gonna do that. See there you go man. We appreciate join us. Man had a great conversation with you if people want to see how to get your next. Nf tea or your next beer. What is the best way for them to do that. The website is wandering solbes dot com and everything on social media just at wondering so beer and Everything comes directly to me good stuff. We appreciate it matt. Thanks guys is awesome. You bet well that about wraps it up for this episode of the beer guys ready to show join us next week as we talk with exhibit a brewing for more crapper info follow us online. We are beer. Guy's radio on facebook twitter and instagram. Thanks again for tuning in. Have a great week. And don't forget to drink local cheers.

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Municipal, Hamilton, And A Peek Back At Normalcy

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Municipal, Hamilton, And A Peek Back At Normalcy

"Ladies, and Gentlemen Boys and girls, we're back since he broadcast the voices, and this is easily the most exciting show that I have done. At least since February. Appears. Do you want to know why it's because right now? I'm sitting on a patio in front of a for the first time. Months old and Makes me feel really good? I need to take a drink of beer that before I keep talking here. where it municipal we are. Are we on the patio? No, we are doing it technically. Technically we are. We are off. The patio are under a big ELM tree and right next to great Miami. There are doors their dogs. There are people there sunshine. There's a nice breeze. This is like the perfect situation to sit down and drink. Craft nearing. This is it. This is the that the crap that for the last. How many months I've been holed up at the basements sitting at my bar by myself quietly sobbing if you want to honest because I'm stuck in the House with multiple kids and a wife that. Is Very upset with how much money I've been spending on beard can get delivered to my house and the. Life has been weird, you guys. Let's. For you too far down the rabbit hole. Let's run around the table. Everybody, introduce yourselves get as close to the MIC as possible because there's a bunch of people and this is. Be a little bit confusing. If you're listening trying to figure out who. I am. Jim Clyburn. Owners co-founders rewards. Shuttling him owners co-founders Hedberg a mental works. Anne Marie silly owner of the casual paint Hamilton. Dan Hancock sexy member of the casual pine hailed. Matt. Cutter Treasurer of the Butler County Society based out of municipal works fantastic. This is A. Multifaceted show here we've got a lot to talk about. we're going to die than I to some bigger picture stuff. We'll kind of get focused a mobile grill. You guys about municipal of what's been going on and how? How all this is worked at how you survived through. This. I WANNA talk about. How Hamilton has evolved because I'm I live in Fairfield I remember I remember a Hamilton that is very different than the Hamilton of today and a lot of that. There's a lot of reasons for that, but to me the biggest reasons our because of places like municipal at like casual pints, and these these places that we're willing to. I don't know that it was. Saying it was risky to open in. Hamilton is the right way to put it, but. To me, it was opened the Hamilton this was. There was nothing happening here. And now you look. and. This exists because of people like you guys Casual Pints. How does that decision happen to open? In Hamilton well technically municipal risk. Municipal took the risk. And we just followed suit I mean they came in. And Day? Energize the neighborhood and we realized there's off whole lot of craft beer. Fans out here and you know municipal inventory they. Sorry reinvigorated Hamilton. Brought the passion for craft beer in. And all their beers are awesome, and then we're like you know what. We're GONNA JUST GONNA slide in a little bit and offer something a little bit difference. You know you can come here and their beers or amazing. And but you know we want to do something a little bit different, but. They worthy invigorated. They were invented in. Inventors? They were they were I can't talk right now. They! They were the guys that said Hey. We're going. Bring craft beer back to Hamilton and they took a big chance, and if they had not done that, we would not have done what we did. Because literally, this was a huge leap for municipal, and it really was sure and we followed suit. What do you guys do differently than what a place like municipal does? A. Variety! I mean I I don't know how else to to say it to be able to to get. Upwards of Twenty Five Different Local Beers local Cincinnati Beers You know I feel like I. Forgive me that I'm going to go back to my T. and G. Days Right? There's depth and breadth right municipal does the depth municipal is going to give you the the expertise and the amazing The amazing experience within a single brand, but we're going to bring to. You is the breadth of the the great stuff from a wide variety of brands, particularly the brands that that Cincinnati that are really built the framework of Cincinnati. So the hope is that people want both the hope is that people that people want to experiment with a lot of flavors within a single brand and then you know a lot of a lot of different stuff across the couple of a lot of different brands, so that's nice pathway that we've built. It's fun to have the opportunity to wake. If if I'm sitting here municipal when I'm drinking, wise guys have advice him which I am. To know that you might be able to walk down the street and try something else that maybe inspired your dad or maybe to to kind of tie it together to some kind of a bigger picture, or maybe tried another one from another variant Cincinnati or something like that. Expand kind of that that picture of. Your craft experience. It's really easy as a craft. Beer fan is especially as you say you have here in Hamilton. Probably not going to a lot of different tap room's. Right down the street from me. You. To how? The chance to try mother things. I you know. I. Think it's exciting. I think it's fun. you guys have food Something that is sometimes much appreciated when you're out the door, thing and looking for for for. Kind of that afternoon, and that experience, which is something that I think it's really great about downtown Hamilton. You can overhear. Grab A pint. Drank it. Grab A pint. Walk with that one down the street. Pie. At the. Together standing, it's about. Right it's about it's about providing not just things that people that people want things that people are really going to going to fall in love. And to be able to have the variety in the food, and not just the be rewrite the food that we've got to have a high end food down the street at Tahoe's to have the expertise in in flavor and. At the end of the day, it's about delayed inexperience, and I think I honestly believe that we have some I. Don't want us over word you over used word here. We've got some pretty amazing magic and this and this little space heater that probably contributed to us. Still being here. All of US still being here. Almost twelve weeks later. After the shutdown. But also having a little bit of fun while we've been doing it right, there's there. There's an enjoying amongst the people who have been providing how. Also. It's Nice when a tat blows in an emergency. I have an amazing brewery that can just run up five hundred yards away and grab a beer like i. need this charge me later. Let's put it on tap right now. Because be thirty five taps, but municipal always killed it. Always kills it. BRATS includes the best of municipal does, and it will always include the best. What municipal does partly because that's what our customers demand, but partly because it's just. It's I'm sorry. It's just damn fun. Just in. Conversations. Across the street and you know honestly that first week that first week of the shutdown was horrendous, but to be able to walk across the street and say hey, hey, how are you guys doing? What do you need? What do we? We got through this because of the relationships that we had with each other, and with the customers and You know damned anybody who says any different to that it is there. There's a little bit of magic in this little square that we've got going on here. Did, you guys speaking of municipal. Did you guys anticipate kind of that? Community aspect when you heard that they might be moving in around the corner there. In store absolutely. Here's. Started! Sign So. This is Jim and Sean. Our Bird to so we met in March of two thousand fourteen. Walk through the school building. Nothing worked inside, but it had tall ceilings. It had floor drainage and a giant patio. And said you know what I think we can do something with this. It was like a first date. And we kinda quizzed each other on what we thought. We could do at this place and started. River's edge amphitheater was open and the old him. Tony and hotel that was shut down. We opened as Mary. and was a you want good. We've got a concert venue got hotel with bringing people in. I think we've got something going, but we're going to need more. It can't just be. One entity bringing people so when we started hearing about things and to and frankly and talk and our folks here pint coming. That's what we need is know. Say all the time. The rising tide lifts all the boats. Won't we need more boats? We knew more boats to be a destination there too many years I live in Hamilton have been here since ninety five for too many damn years I would drive right down. High street bypassed everything Hamilton and go out the Westchester. And and then lip, and then had liberty town centre with all that stuff. We one entity alone cannot. They can be successful, but it's just a single entity. You can add. All the entities. And everyone is. Being successful and you've now created a destination. You've now created a destination for people from Cincinnati for from eight from Oxford from trends we service. Date they can come to one spot which has never happened least in my lifetime and him since his family five. He never had. An opportunity to park the car. One spots walk with a beer in your hand because. I mean let's face it. Doris dancer designated outdoor refreshment area, and we have the largest acreage of Dora land in the entire state of Ohio. So you could buy a beer from casual. From municipals from any place. It sells beer in the door. And walked the Markham. Park walk across the bridge and suit. threatful he can do anything. And, but that doesn't happen in West. Says there, so. When you can get everybody at one time, it happened in Hamilton a little bit of those Brown paper bags. A little different. This time. Time to a prohibition. John Dillinger from low Lyndon. Law was literally in this neighborhood. I'm going to jump in here. Real quick to say you guys were the innovator though and. When you guys had your success, it's when people like us came in and followed suit and followed your path so for that. Thank you. Thank you I mean. It's you took the risk it's it was a risk, but honestly. You know we figured it out like risk. It was a point. I mean yeah. But honestly brewers can go into some horrible horrible places and still be successful. It's true there's something about a brewery that creates the hub for people to to to gather, and that creates something around it, and that's that's true, but you also have the ability to distribute as a burr different, so if you set up a place, that is an amazing tapper. But you're in an area where nobody shows up. People just are not inspired to come see. You're going to hurt, but you can still live, and you live by getting your beers, and it's got to be a good product, but. Fears out to bars and restaurants and you can. You can pay the light bulb. You can keep it going. But when you can actually have taboo. That draws people in. And then you have other entities around you like you're. You're creating sense of community at that time. Exactly when you guys before you opened a new, you were looking here. And the decision was made that this is a this is our spot. Did, you think. That that community was going to happen around this or does the goal to those one hundred percent. My goal is to sit and create a sense of community. And have people, Drink my beer are beer. And solve the wolves problems in front of me and have, and then just like expand on that. That was the whole goal is to do a sense of community here. Yet no seriously when roll back to in March of two thousand fourteen when we had our first date. Did was going to have a love of program. That's playing right now. At Pearl Jam's playing right now and and now here. Oh you. I love the bowels. Yeah, so anyway begging twenty fourteen. I think that was a month. That started the broadcast to. I think. Twenty four, twenty fourteen. So sound right. Could big dodger march on the twenty fourteen or Twenty Efforts twenty fourteen. That's that's serendipitous 'cause. It was it was? Honestly that I date, it was like what you see in look. At that time into nineteen year homebrew her but I, how to make fricken batch of three hundred gallons and. WORKED FOR FOR SELLER LAURA FOR FOR TIME and Steven Steve Great to him and showed him all things that needed to be done and and kind of inspired him to to have this drive to have his own place. Well you know what I want to have my own place to? But I didn't. I didn't have the technical expertise to do. The massive batches but I didn't know what people want. And I and I know people from around here so the fact that we got together and we did this. Did we know people were going to show up? Hell No. But we just celebrated our four. Year. Anniversary two days ago. And one of the watershed moments in my life was are opening again. We had a line that the police had become and shut down the street because the wind went to the Marriott parking lot through our patio across the street. we only had four beers. And we never, it was forty five minutes to get a beer and we never heard one component. We had hundreds of people shake our hand and say thank you for opening this and bringing the Hammock. And we may have been one of the first people to stick our flags in the ground, but we weren't shortsighted enough to think the are going to be able to do this alone. On China and I talked about this one of the things we talked about in the three goals, eight great fear establish strong community roots and educate people on Beer. So one of the other things we did was of course added. A homebrew club is one of the first thing because the other homebrew club's the I go to I tried to go through every all his hand scheduling issues. I couldn't make so my wife. We have to educate folks about craftier. We want to encourage craft. We want to establish strong community. WE WANNA have spokes. Kavulich, point come in because we know that. This prize and What. Makes something like a homebrew club successful. Like how do you? How do you create a? All right. I might just leave it in her shits and giggles. I might just leave that in this way. What. What makes a homebrew club successful? I mean there there. There are several homebrew clubs around. Some of them have been around forever some of them. Started then failed for multiple reasons. How do you create something like that I well, the one thing you need to have is good. I'm not sure sponsorships the right word, but you know about six months after municipal came on online. Is when we started. It was like December of I. Guess Twenty Sixteen I. Think it's about right, so we're like in our fourth year now, but what you need is some good backing. You need a good place to go. You need people that care about. your club and what you're doing and a supporter. They're supportive with things you want to do our goals were our goals are are still. We want we all want to learn to make beer better good beer. We like to have a good time together. We have a great group of folks we really do. It's the I. think that's our strongest point. Our President, our Kurt President is Chuck Beardsley. He visited the other spears Louis B. E. A. R. D., S. L. E. hopefully I didn't screw that up. Chuck I think I got it right. He he's. He's our president for the last six months or so and he he visited the other clubs in the area, and this is no slight on the other clubs, but he came in and sat in one of our meetings, and he said this he decided. This is the club you wanted to be involved. With I think I think all the clubs in the area from what I understand having visited the mall, but I know they all have their strengths, and some of the ones that have been around for a while very strong, very big presence at contests. You know different different concepts both nationally and in statewide, and probably I, don't know about international if they're even. If that's the thing but You know a lot of these of these clubs are will. Go to like. Beer festival things like that and really. Present their stuff or maybe maybe not the right fast. The Great American professional is homebrew to. Americans the profession site. Yeah, the other one. Version. Yeah Yeah, but York labs, but we, we being relatively young. We're trying to get our feet on the on the ground and expand their club. We have right now. We have a pretty solid roster of I would say thirty active members that fluctuates a little bit Royce looking to improve on that. We. Do do all your meetings here during meetings here the last couple of months. Versus this this Sunday will be our first meeting since. I think March We meet here first Sunday of the month at seven seconds I'm sorry you're right, sorry. Jim The Sunday the month that changes sometimes based on like Super Bowl. Sunday or Easter show every Sunday every Sunday and drink some beer. second Sunday of the month seven o'clock in the evening and What we do is we usually start off with a a little bit of business? Talk about what we're doing. We have an educational component, and then we have social component where we sit around and drink each other's beers We also have guys. Should say guys people who have some women in the club We have people that do wine cider. ME, smells! Sake design. Desperate for somebody to open up a sake brewery in Cincinnati. I need some socks you. Know even any sake yet, but we have, we should have made instead of Seltzer. RUN THE GAME Make really effervescent sake. We we recently formed three groups were buying. We're going to get some barrels and we're GONNA. Do some barely stuff, probably two or three batches, barrel and I I. No one's going to be like a bourbon barrel. Want's going to be installed or something and the other ones I think one is going to be something along the lines of more of A. Particular? Wind barrel something different than they could talk for third barrel. Maybe something like this hour range. Again It's somebody shaking their head of. But yeah, we, we do contests. We have we have. We had a contest recently at the beginning of the year where the winter we had, we had the brewer from the same Adams taproom. Come in and. We had a corresponding contest with that. He came to talk about a topic, but we had a correspondent contest to go with that and the winner of that. Their beer's GonNa be brewed at the taproom probably later this year. The the virus has pushed everything back we. We're GONNA. Have involvement with the Hamilton County Fair. We were We're talking about doing the. I don't know if that's going to happen anytime soon, but the Pinewood Derby that they were doing. We were GONNA. Take that over we are. Do we do big route a manual vent. We usually do two of those year we'll we'll. We'll brew out here on the Patio in the morning before. The day what we do is. Making big work, and then we so do all the hard manual labor and all they have to do is. Like Yeah Nice Nice. all. Add their own hops in. Yeah, usually what will? What we've done before with that is. We'll pretend we'll pretend. He did the hard labor there. We'll make big batch of work, and then he'll and usually either. Bitter slightly or or whatever, but then we'll take it in all. Use Different East or all Houston cops, and then we'll do like a comparison a month or two later at the meat and say this is what the hops very experiment is. Experiment that being yeah, it was everybody started with the same war and I'm telling you there was there was probably eighteen brewers that showed up. picked out five ten twenty gallons award. Took it home or or Patio! Brewed it. Added hops that they signed up for or whatever use, they signed up for depending on the year, and then they come back a month later, and everybody gets to taste this beer that is. Completely different, one of is though I know. Bear with me for one second I know Sierra Nevada and new Belgium fantastic, and all the small breweries in Asheville a really great, but my favorite part of Asheville is white labs, and you go in, and you can go in there, and you can sit at bar and. Socially distance at tables that are price spread out the parking whatever that exists right now, but and they'll have a beer. That is the same beer that's then -firmative with you know five or six different kinds of East Asian tribal. Maybe. It's really Geeky and maybe most people don't care about the. San Diego and you go white labs. They do the exact same thing in my wife old. Let me leave that far far. That was an eye opening for me. I went there in two thousand twelve for a wedding and my buddy that got married. He's like. Hey, let's go to white labs. I'm like all right and what? They're like I got the IP, but they have like. Five different peace, and you you do a flight of those, and you're like Oh my God. You never realize there was. When I was there there was some kind of stouter porter or something like that and was for for 'cause Easton. The one. With the color was just was so different than the other one, and it didn't even occur to me like you know the the flocculation, or whatever the hell the east you know I didn't. Didn't occur to me that. Much. That can affect you know like like you know you gotTa he's EPA or whatever there is something floating around there, but you said. No so, I was out in the one in San Diego because this. Really fancy pants out in San Diego. I'm on my thing. Of course I traveled because San Diego has got some shirt. So go out there and We decided. Let's go to white labs. 'cause green flash was literally right around the corner. I mean it's. It's not far so we go there, and and she's a scientist and she's the only place. You can get great flash now right I think. Kansas City. They had something something like ten million dollars. But anyway, but you know we went to. Green Flash is great. Then we go to the. White Labs and she's a scientist, so she spent ten years in the lab, so she really wants to see this lab and I really want to have their beer. It really worked out well, so we get there and. The flight was not a flight of your choosing. It was a flight of style. Eats I want a flight of Rye so I got four years get were the same exact ward of riot gear. And they were all on. They all had different East's and he flavored dynamics of each beer was astounded. whether it is fruity or whether it was dry. I mean it was it. Was It really kind of? Changed your opinion of Yeast. Usually it's like Oh what what hops. What did the? He says a tremendous amount to do with it as a huge difference and the cool thing was when we did the Brew Day you know these guys recognize that so one time we did it with the same more with. With hops the other time we did it with the same more with east when you can pick whatever the hell hawks wanted. That was fun, too. I think all of the beer's actually brewed at the San Diego White. Labs shipped to Ashville due for the record I. Think not sure but We're go down too big of a rabbit hole. The whole show in itself talking about the Geeky side of all of the. Going back to home brewing The clubs specifically Can Anybody show up for meeting? Yeah, I'll I'll do the plug the shameless plug. Butler county brings. Society. We have facebook page. Look US up. I think it's a public now. Think we originally you had to be. Approved or whatever but I. I think you might have to be approved, but you can look us up. Get on their second Sunday of the month seven o'clock. Show notes. TAFFER. It's thirty bucks a year dues. If you decide to join you, get a little tasting glass. Then we also have discounts at a couple of home restores listerman and HBO BE UP in Dayton and we were talking to another one. We we have Usually every year. We have some kind of thing like either a gift part of your party your. Membership or we subsidize something like last year we did t shirts, and you pay ten bucks a t shirt, even though the the cost more than that, the club's subsidizes that we have We were GONNA go to some of us are going to go to homebrew com this year, but that got canceled now. It's online only, but we were going to do that. what else? What. On jump in here and just say casual panel will give a dollar off all members with. Some sort of we have a membership card with a membership card yep yeah. Great Great Group of folks, we have a good time and I can't. I can't recommend it enough. It's been a real You know I think three months ago three years ago like? Oh, good now it's become a real almost like a little bit of a family. It's a lot of fun so. That kind of goes into my next question of what I've struggled with. Home Brewing. Y homebrew. In. Twenty twenty when we got. Seventy! HOW TALL! I think what you like anything you want to. Be Like and you want to try to make I. Don't know there's just some real. There's real pleasure in doing something and drink. It's like Sean. Sean, we'll pretend. Shawn's a great burden for second. No I leave. This is this is my I. Love Shot No so You drink something really good, but then you make it yourself. There's a real pleasure. It's like making a great meal. You and your friends are there and your family's there and you're like. Wow, this is really great. There's there's just immense pride and pleasure you get from that and to learn how to do anything better I think if you're going to do anything. And you enjoy it. It pays to learn how to do a better anything you know, so. It's a great hobby. It is a great great stress. Relief is a way to be within yourself to to create. A! This thing that you can enjoy. And want to share. Yeah, that's what you want and. There's. Never anything that I wanted to she. Well, there's and there's also the great great pleasure you get from. Have friends over, and they're like man. This is some damn good beer and you're thinking. That well. Rabbit Hole, then you. Work. For me like I'm I'm extremely grateful. That guy I have home brewed and I know how to Homebrew, and if I wanted to go, make beer tomorrow, I could go make beer tomorrow. I get understanding of the process and everything that goes into it and make. It gives me more of a connection to the product, but like on any given weekend like I I would much rather go to. Hell. I'll watch you brew and drink while you Bruce. I can't do it better. There's also. Better. There's also something very vulnerable about when you make a beer and you have your friends. Enjoy it because if it sucks. Man They chose your confidence. How do I know that's why I own the casual pint and I don't own a brewery 'cause I brewed beer and guess what it's. Yes. I think I still have like four bottles of my last homebrew Abacha and they're. It's like if you like a green apple deliciousness it's. It's awesome. We we we. We like. like I, said if if there's something you like doing, it's worth at Dorn how to do a better. Last month. We talked about on a virtually. Of course. We had talked about barrel aging aging this coming Sunday. We're talking about big beers like trips and tips and trips to. Make a big beer and I just look at the presentation that I think that's. Our secretary is doing the presentation inch Corey. looked at me I learned some some just looking at that. I'm really looking forward to hearing on Sunday, and I'm really looking forward to being here. Sunday because we have been able to do it since March, some really that's going to be great, but let's if the weather's GonNa. Be Good, yeah! When you say a big beer you took. Maybe we're talking. We're talking. Twenty pounds of grain because you're making in Russian, imperial or something like that and there's there's different things that you've got to consider converses making pills nerve. There's you know I've ever styles different. Everything's different. Beers such a complicated product, but it's great to learn tips and tricks to make an better. That's all I'm GonNa tell you I it it. It puts a big, you know. I'm the grinch. My heart grows through sizes during talking about this. Is Like I wanted to go to homework clubs forever here, living in Hamilton and both Terry and is just too damn far away, and there are worried burs there, and that's I mean that is the real the the keystone first, and then there's the maltesers and the maltesers makes some amazing worth, but the timing that they met just never worked out for me. Does Nash the Middletown area? From. I couldn't meet that. Damage, we gotTA. have got. Along the sorry Jim Europe yeah, but what? We were talking about because again because of the I think the virus of. Maybe next year we'll do this. We were talking about getting the other clubs in the area and doing a NC double A.. Bracket kind of thing. Get four clubs and go okay. We're going to each of US present sixteen best bruce and just go down and get some really Judge. Let totally. We're totally open to teaming up with those other clubs any competition that would be so fun to do and the coolest thing about it is like you'll see folks in the club that are. Literally just started burning six months ago and guys in their bruiser two years, and that was when you get that bug. And you know who I'm talking about. There's there's two guys who got the bug. One Guy got the bug and probably Shell out twenty five hundred dollars and. Putting into this homebrew system that was stated yard with electric. Hired electricians did all that stuff it's. He's got a frigging above blue cat in his garage. The takes the aroma and I'm like this guy is going crazy and every time he comes in. This is what I love being a part of municipal birds. I get the tasted. Because all the sudden now because I'm part of the Berry I'm some sort of expert on my be kidding me. I think it's odd Jim just so happens to be here every meeting. Because when I come home and I'm a little and my wife's like what happened in the Mike Homework clubs is say no more. No and the thing. Is it fun too so I'll tasting a beer from a guy. Hill Want My. Honest Import and and I'm a certified scissor as Somewhat! School, but I've tasted a lot of frigging beers baby, if you check my untapped portfolio over six thousand years. Zepa Get a badge for that. Badge badges. Never going to print off because it's still. Mad because there's because you can, you can have six thousand beers only two types. There's one you like and when you don't talk. But, anyway so I I get the taste these beers in. It's fun because Al Taste the beer from a guy and it'll be like what hey. This beer has a little bit of dasell in it know maybe that use cleared out. Maybe instead of when the fermentation on the bubbling done, let it sit a couple of extra days and then I'll send. You comes next month and he is. Fantastic, so it's fun to to to watch. These folks get the passion, Grahahan because really. Let's face it. Craft beer cooking's artistry. They're all forms of art and the reason why they're art, which is because it's different, which of your and it's a passion that theory is just so differently cooking close, but at the same time like people don't get excited to sit around and try your latest casserole. CASSEROLE parties. They were Denver. By. Denver you gotTa Watch out. Year is always even if like you've got that home brewing like I've I've got those? You know four or five bottles of at the homebrew batch sitting around, and I'll be damned if I. There won't be a night where I'm sitting around with a bunch of friends when I'm allowed to sit around. The basement or drank in were laughing I can crack one of those open, and it's GonNa, be fun to drain, even though it's not a great beer, it's fun to drink at stills from. The conversation that helps our happens around like. That doesn't happen with cooking or anytime art. It's the social nature of beer is just that is true. My my wife is a fantastic cook, and like I said I'm a I'm assessor. So what we'll do is for local for Hamilton Junior. Women's laid. we will. Offer off a in-home beer and food pairing tasting for up to ten feet. and. I'm not sure who more fun with. It because. You know I'm thinking of different beers. It's not all minister. Buick spears I'll pull some of our beer's been. But you know she made she. Does this Wolfgang Puck like? Double or triple, grilled cheese and sour dough with fig, jam and honey. Ow, how find a? And I almost always pool new Belgium's triple. just because I want that sweetness and went to high alcohol to cut through all the fatness of the cheese. And it's. To educate people on and again useful, it comes from useful brewer because we want to make great beer, strong community roots and educate people get part of the education pupil embarrassed to offer on the folks, so do that it's fantastic, and that is to have a Hindu and achieved to support them in whatever they need, and you know I think I think that's our role in it fits into. Our kind of mean perspectives is of municipal. You've got establish strong community roots and. Educate people on craft fear because when you do that. All the sudden play, casual type command offer third taps. Folks around here. Let's face it. We've got Trenton Brewery. That does a million barrels of year of. Miller's products. For twenty years. They sponsored every parade at festival. Everything around her and I and I honestly treasure them because. You know if there was anything to do in Hamilton. They were the sponsor of. But as a result of that, you've got US society in the Greater Hamilton area that nothing but drink Miller a neuro wi tastes great less filling. IN TRIPLE HOP! There's no beer out there triple hostile. None of them. And I think now. It's with Rocky Mountain. Water something. So. The ship by trend. The giant because we have a frozen train. Exactly a big frozen the. Through Hamilton Hilton doesn't have gone. But so it, but because of that you end up getting. You educate pupils pallets as well. You know when we do well in Butler county. Mad true cells while in Krogers and Butler count very, you know. Ryan guys sells well in Butler county, and it's one because they're making great fears the too because the people around here, not afraid to try it even though they've been raised on. How do you? How do you keep that idea? Those those three kind of an answer whatever they are. How do you keep that focus in the middle of? Even. Greater example the last few months of all hell breaking loose. How how do you stay focused on that stuff? When there's plenty of other things you should? Be Thinking about. Well We. Had to say Jim does a marvelous job about always can. Always communicating in dealing with the community and keeping ties with with. With. Everybody around here and he is amazing at doing that. my side is trying to keep the quality of the beer a worrying about the beer. Thanks appreciate it. and then education is still what we continue to do with every customer we have, and then the homebrew club. That's still what we tried to do. It's still has not changed. It has not. Hasn't bolstered at all. And if I can jump in here. Look at the podcast you have. A brewery. You have a person that beer. You have the person that Ruth Beer. We are all passionate about the craft. We, all want to see it succeed. And so you cove it and everything else going on, but we are still staying the course marine passionate about it. I will never brew beer as good as municipal. I will never be exploratory as as as these guys over here on the crew side. I'll sell their best works. We all work together. And you're gonNA computer stronger than ever be all work together. We're going to be stronger for it I mean. Like, they like. raising. Rising tide raises. Thank you. Yeah I mean. You think about it. When you're in the middle of something like we've been going through this this this year. There's gotta be those moments that were. It's it's. How do you? Well when when? When you're Tim Donnelly, put words remember when you're terrified that the world around US willing to burn down. How do you? How do you keep a focus on on serving your community or You keep staying the course you stay true to your plan is. and. Come? Hell or high water you stick to it. You know some days. You'RE NOT GONNA. Have customers weather whatever you stay? Resilient! And you stay true that new depth no recovery. Yeah, definitely so. You just changed focus on some things. Stay, the course spaghetti adapt and overcome on things ain't. Listen to your podcast for. Weeks over weeks over weeks. Something I do look. There's the listener. I number one I That's one of the things I do. basically on Monday mornings or Tuesday morning i. But my headphones on and I million and listen to the podcast it takes me about. Thirty to forty five minutes depending on one million, and that's what I do. That's what listen to and. But you adapt and overcome in. You changed roles. You find a way. Of having different revenue streams because of what's one on? I just like magic. She did just like you know senator has done. Everybody's changing some way. From, my side is to maintain the head the fluids. Keep the quality of it. Just maintain. We have enough because we've been through more fluid. In the Crawler, side or grill or side and we team, we do in the wintertime. Are that March? April may situation pints and that. That is slightly stressful for me so. Good Stress Right. One thing one thing about beer. Is that back in the day? My Dad, my late father, he owned a drive through. And he got into that business after getting out of what he was doing any, he really enjoyed it. He owned his business. Everything you drive through, you know what I mean. It's like a giant garage drive through, and they put beer in the car anyway. He told me one time. This is back in the early nineties and those kind of a recession. Then he said. What do you notice? This beers kind of recession proof it People might buy cheaper, but they're still buying beer and I think beer at the end of the day is the great is a great unifier for people, kings and peasants alike drink beer. And I think if you have even if things are bad, doesn't matter what's going on. People are still going to drink beer and I think i. think places like this. And areas like this with you know you've got. This great thing going on Hamilton with this you know the door and everything you can walk around and have like a real community. People crave that and that's what they want. No matter how bad things are people are going to? Get a beer and let's sit around and talk about our problems are not talk about our problems or just whatever? Ten pretend with it's not happy. Yeah, yeah, and then you drink. Drink Enough Beers. You kind of don't care anymore. In a week later they're in the hospital, but it doesn't matter because he had a good beer but but I brew club. Feel? Better I think I think. More than anything brings people together. Because you don't you don't go to cookout and drink. Water was drinking beer. One of the first times we sat and Todd I said. That the United States was. It was literally formed in. The, Boston Tea Party was literally a bunch of guys sitting around drinking beer that read that the mayflower stop because basically they've run out of beer in. The second building that was built in the United States was a bar. Church. Publishes Short for Public House. Where you go. It's just you guess what people do. There's a really great book that I'm part with reading. I wish I could remember the name right now. It's something about the history of drinking. I I'll put in. The show notes Amazon links. If you click on the little cut of it, but I think I have to say that there's some kind of rules or something supposed to say you're GONNA fill only. It's it's. It's really it's. It's the entire history of drinking in the United. States starting from when the pilgrims were landing and of story of of of how they. They actually made that into a graphic novel. Because I have at home I i. know what you're talking seeing that with. Yeah Tire History of Beer in America this this is the entire history of all drinking period, so you get. All kinds of it's a really great book. I put a Lincoln there. Sorry, but now have the two things I've ever went to get this I got this guys I. I remember how to podcast. Let's talk about I mean we. We can always run over to. Venture the Internet we do what we want but How. Bad are things. How bad were things at? How bad are things getting git? I'll chime in on. How bad the hard things! Things are not as bad as at least here for us. Guys for you've as we'll talk about everybody else. I sat on Zoom meeting with the Ohio crafters association reg. I'll be acid they're. They're fantastic because they really have your back. They really do like there were some. The state came out with some things, and and we were reading it and we're like didn't want this kind of ambiguous language. Can we do this or not and? You Call Mary up there in and her in. I. And they would give it direction. Like it's a, it's A. It's a bring alliance You Know Colin and Jimmy All these folks that are really great people in the burn. and they would help you out so. When I'm on this zoom meeting with and I'm hearing how other breweries blood doing and they're? Letting. Go all of their employees except warmer. Maybe two for kindling carry out. I'm thankful for the city of Hamilton, the city of Hamilton leadership, because the fact that we've had Dora in place this date and outdoor refreshment area, so you can grab a beer and walk around town. Now when you quarantine people for a month, and you've got an April day coming out of winter and new finally hit that seventy two degree mark and sunny, and you've been locked up in your house. What the YOU WANT TO DO! I will say the first day that I came out and and. Came to the tapper got myself dork walking down to casual point It was freaking cold. You were there that day. It was cold outside. What's funny is still made it out and I was still able to walk around and get outside the half. In. Spite of winter like you get spiteful towards like screw winter spike. It's spiteful of everything. I'm so sick of of winter keeping you inside the house so sick of. The government telling me I can't do this I'm I'm tired of cold making everybody sick and. Tired of Exact I'm sorry. Baby No, I'm I'm tired of tired of my kids. Telling me I can't get. You, it's spike and all of that. I. Don't know yet. They don't even her. Actually my my older, my three year old. We're going off topic, but She does podcast now she goes, and she sits in the podcast studio. She pulls the microphone down and she starts talking and she tells me she's doing podcast about spirit. If anybody has kids, it's force on Netflix. She does spirit podcasts. Don't think she acts understands. You're talking to people. She talks to the Horse on the show. That's off topic, but. It's like the spiteful like I'm just I'm sick of this and I just want. Some outs of normalcy the enormously that I know. Maybe I'm weird, maybe I live a different life than a lot of people the only normalcy that I know that I have. Beer against the only thing that's always normal I sit down and I have a beard. What's going on around me? Beer stays. The same year will always be there for you. You were. Like therefore force. it's a bankruptcy. Addiction will always be there for you, Buddy. Winning the lottery, no matter what craft beer will always be there for you. Would A you could make like a funny joke out of that the ears always, but like it really is in my life like it's this the central focus of when you're happy. You have a beer when you're sad. You have a beer when you when you when you don't feel good be. Field. We had a couple of people during Cova, did when they realized that so. You know we. Were on the You can't come in and dine at, but you can go outside. And when they realized we were still open when they came in and got a beer, not lying. A couple of people had tears in her eyes after about three weeks they were looking for normalacy. They were looking for something regular in their lives, and you know what we provided that. It's really hard for me right now to to walk into tap rumor to walk in here tonight, and to not like want to run up and hug people. It's really difficult survey. So that was Sunday right so that Sunday was the fifteenth right. Yes, when Dwayne HSIEH's down. Saint Patrick's Day. We had a huge party plan to be here. we had the fire department going to be here at seven. We had a huge going to be planned out. We're going to be. Tapping and pouring of my Irish out. We Copeland Gopalan. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. I was going to be across. Thing we're talking about closing the the the the the road like have right now. We had to shut down and We were going to provide a pint glasses. You guys providing the cousy, but it was GONNA be a block party. It was going to be a block party for the whole day. Gone gone shutdown done. It's not so. Look at some of the bars around town. That like that's their life, though to Saint Patrick's Day is their. APPS paps down in Clear or it's. A. To go all the time in the morning time. But. For what hit me so hard about? The shutdown is having to tell an individual. That there's. I don't WanNa. Let you go. But at the look in the eye and say hey. Got Nothing for you right now. And then turn into an start. The Hamilton disarms. Let's called job security from my side other things. But then. Other hit me. Really hard is not being able to watch a said it earlier, not being able watch individuals. Solve, the world's problems it over. My takes one of those big aspects of why you do this away from you and truly, that's one of. Little bit some of my breaking points of this whole cogan situation was. Not having that. The joy of watching drink. Are Beer. We should have let me. Turn It's funny so. it's fine. Go ahead so good friend of mine. Paul owns Molly Malone's down and coming to how he makes his entire year's rent on Saint. Patrick's Day and I saw I reached out to them about a week after and he's like I. Don't do because you know. The other Molly Malone's at he opened up. Caught fire and everything and he was like he literally. I make my entire year's rent on one day. It was gone. And, I felt for him. It's amazing. What beer does for people? And it was in one day gone, but then having the lines out the door, yeah, just to have the crawlers, and thank God, for Casual Piper stepping up and. Helping us out a little bit about crawlers and. But just had that ability to had. The lines out the door, those crawlers. Mattress Dan. Say Interstate September. When? We're doing it together with. This is this is what it is. So I, think we. We covered how bad it is about a was. How bad does it get because I? Don't think we're done now. We're not and and so here's the kicker. What we're talking about how? Everything the crap the fan at one time. On a dime everybody had to choose. And you had to change where you're getting your revenue. You had to change how? You had with chain digit podcasts. I understand. Enhance basement now and you're trying to push away. Your kids doing like Pony Brian. You'RE GONNA. Get the. You'll get in trouble with that. It's not a pony. He is a horse different. Little Pony rony years. That's the crazy stuff that happened like on the. So, here's I'm not going to. Put anything out there that we're not ready to put out there, but we are. In twenty, nineteen UNICEF Abreu hurts hit maximum capacity, right. We did thirteen hundred barrels and I will guarantee you if you talked to any brewer in Ohio craft brewers association, and you have walked through our place, and you tell him or her to do. Thirteen hundred barrels like John did. They will laugh at you and say you guys are fricking crazy, but for some way we did thirteen hundred barrels, and we were Max capacity, but yet we still had a demand that needed to be met. So, Prior to this cove thing, we had everything set up to do a contract brew and do a massive amount to allow our beer. Going back before that back to before that the articles were written. Not by me because it wasn't real yet, you guys, you guys who were in the hunt for a production facility. Yes. So I gotta think Sean, because he talked me out of it, so when we first started and are dating phase I wanted to do only like five barrel ten barrel systems like no, we gotta do fifteen thirty barrel fermenters and I'm like that's too much weight on Sean, dating pretty much. Okay when you're in business, yeah, you I. WanNa make whatever the dating. Sean dating and you know I I'm I'M GONNA. Listen to him. It was against my gut feeling, but I'm going to listen to him and it was for the best. So last summer when I started plotting numbers saying. To run out of beer fine, I won't build a production facility, but. It was one of those things where it's like. You know we. We're at a point at municipal borough where in the ninety percentile. Of every drop we made was already sold close me, and that's an incredible. For us I was incredible field. But on if you continue on that trend, and now Kovas not happening, but if you continue on that trend rerun out of fear, it also inhibits and kind of creative flow and. Some of the the looseness that I think sometimes people like about craft breweries. When when you have four thirty barrel fermenters in thirty zero break tank, and four of the five are filled with one beer, because it's moving so fast out the door and then distribution you have limited your creativity to the point where you now are no longer a fun place to be. so. I wanted to expand. I was ready to put out. Multi two and a half three million dollars in sort of expansion in Shawn's Nope, nope Nope nope. NOPE, dragging his feet, and of course like brothers, we were beating the crap out of each other, and we literally sat up there and and I'm yelling at him and were cutting each other off yelling at each other. Like what are we gonNa do this and. But we found a method sounds just like my house. We need other beer fridge. No, we don't exist. But you get changed diapers, he was that. We're talking about approachable blonde. Maybe. I'll maybe. Too So it's. Guy Van honestly. That's almost about sixty percent of the fears that we go through. So now where we know that we're going to reach an end of the road to be able to. To produce it in under our house. But we also still want to expand, and we want to meet the demand. and so we found a method and we got through it, and you know now at the end of the month you be able to see. approachable, blond and Orange Gabbay out at Kroger Meyer you know. Are we ever talking details about that arrangement at all? Because it does kind of play into the bigger picture of what's happening locally, it does a little bit look I. Don't have a problem with it I can tell you this. We you're you're making it. Low Gli can we say that we're making it locally? I will say that and and people that you trust and people that you love and. Making it. Look I have a lot of control over I'm going to be dealing with it a lot. It is just unfortunately and just not have the sizes capacity here, but I am for you are. With people that you, yes. And people that. As opposed to the people, now that there is a there is a thing about that of like contract through a and I don't know that it's the same as it used to be. The the word contract brewing, and you say you're contracting. It seems like you are. Just writing on a piece of paper make beer light. Tasty. Off the. Some big factory in some kind of state than and they they send you back some kind of truckload of beer, and that's not what this is not and and so perfect example. This and I'm so glad there in Ohio. is toppling Goliath. Bright toppling Goliath made pseudo sue forever and it was a commodity. You could somehow get your hands on that. You would knock people down to get it. They could not meet the demand. And all of a sudden, they contract with a place out in Lakeland Florida. It wasn't even local lake. Enforce when you look at the CAN. It's got Lakeland Florida. And, but yet they go down there and they the quality control, and all of a sudden, and now you've created the ability to meet the demand while not putting so much stress on your taproom. And then what do they do with it? Okay, they come up with POMPEII. They come up with all these other different beers. Because now, every tank doesn't have to be filled with their flagship. Great, so what you're saying is. I have Pompeii on tap right now. Actually will will be. We'll be able to see your beer. More will be less the packaging I'm assuming. And will be able to see. Some some some space here in some room here and some other things here correct. You're not filling the Seltzer. Sell. You're not on the Texas Seltzer Sake Sake. Their Seltzer is. Building Sake Room in there with a little the vault where we're working on a lot of different things going on right now, but Again going back to the contract situation I say contract, but it is what it is. There it is local I do have full control of quality, control and I'm there. During the burning process and doing a lot of the celery, so it's not just. You Know Hey, right there up and go, so you'll be seeing it. Jim Jim's. You're going to be seeing it hopefully. Your your local krogers and Myers and that kind of thing, so we're. We're GONNA do it. We're trying to do it correctly. So we're going to start off with our blind in Orange Guy but I'M GONNA cut in here because it's the blonde in Orange Guy, but then the other thing is that allows our tanks to be open so now we can do stuff under our own roof. For that third fourth that seasonal that idea that whatever we want to do, it allows us the ability to do what we want to do yet. Partner where it's a great partner, the local and It's just one of those things that. It it works. It makes sense it. It empties tanks that need emptied. It fills. Tanks eat filled and I gets. When and this was going. Back in the before time, when urban artifact decided to to go contract with their, they're the kind of core stuff which they've backed off of now, but they will really really open about their reasons for it, instead of adding a bunch of new big expensive tanks and at their brewery and you know. It. The way that that you know, Bret can be a little brace of sometimes, but the way that he talked about it. Changed the way I think a lot of people were thinking about contract brewing in Cincinnati people started. Jump on them, and he's Hook you and we can put a bunch of money into this and who knows what's going to happen in six months. And what that would mean for us as a brewery? So wouldn't be hold. Forgive me his contract brewing the same as Gypsy brewing. No, no. Contract brewing you are. You are taking a brewery whether that's what they're designed for or not and you're saying. Here's what we made. You make it for us. You fill the tanks and. Basically. What we're doing is renting the for our sense of. Ourselves and we basically renting a tank and we're there. Buring the beer. They understand what the beer is. So, scaled the beer up. They know their fishing utilization of that kettle system. I. Don't but I'm working with them to make that happen so. Basically instead of me, building my own. Facility and basically renting facility night, and having their expertise of how facility run okay, I want to step on toes. I just didn't know the difference between. Have a production facility with out buying production facility shakes jiting versus buying gypsy, brewing. You basically just don't have a space at all and you just kind of. Sorry. Nights, this was allow me to. Do now spur experimental so now I get to finally get play a little bit more than I have been here my facility. It's also. It's it is a good thing and you know. I think that that. The Shit stirring kind of started with contract brewing with same add. Into Callsas same. Argument No. It's you know back in the late eighty S. Sam Adams was contract brewing. Good. That's all they were doing and craft. Beer didn't like it because you're. You're supposed to make your own beer absolutely and they didn't have their basically. I guess they were Gypsy and they didn't know it. Until they bought the beautiful in Cincinnati. No, no, no. No. No, that's okay, but like this that. The equipment is there's all these little like whispery conversations happening to the equipment? Is the equipment whisper. Whisper on my k. attention to the PODCAST. But it comes down to. The equipment is the equipment. And Your Yeast and your recipe is your Houston your recipe. and. Eventually if you are. Doing well. You're going to reach a CAP. And what do you can do when you hit it? What are you? GonNa do are you going to invest two and a half three million dollars, five seven million dollars into a massive production facility, or are you especially in a market? Think anybody cares about contractor note. And the thing is they shouldn't. Because I've had wonderful beers and right now I have a pseudo. Sue In my fridge at home. Brewed wasn't impressed with see this. It's it's A. It's a cloudy Zombie dust. All CITRA UM we'll talk. Later. We could start a whole conversation there what the Hell is going on! That is okay. That's a total. Gas Josh But, no, it's it's. I don't have a problem with it, and honestly we were at a point where. You know those are two options. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA invest a crap ton of money and pray that. Cova doesn't happen although when we were going to do, it was last summer, so we had no clue Cova was going to happen but all of a sudden something like that happens where your distribution channel his cut two zero Brent when you're destroyed channel is cut to zero. The only thing you're selling is in your tap. And what I find interesting is one hundred years ago. We had prohibition. Now. We're essential. So, because we were essential, and we got to stay open that whole time we were in a door district. Thank you city of Hamilton because honestly without Dora I, you know. We only laid off one person. and. That was because of door. we laid off one person in production, and that was because bars and restaurants stop by. but our bar, our entire bar staff state employed during the entire Kobe situation are still employed And it's because of door. People would come in. Buy, and then also the other thing and I know you're gonNA. Love this because we added Seltzer from. Refreshing a Sir cast. But you love those right, so here's here's. The Seltzer statement here, okay? It's anybody has been watching. instagram I think is where I've been talking about it. Most of my wife is in the Weird Seltzer phase right now. I hate that Seltzer exists. I hate what it is. But I'll be damned if it isn't tasty. Old and like it's. So whatever. You're you'RE GONNA find? Myself Inchon here are both in the same boat. We don't necessarily support Celtics. However you to. However, we opened up a an establishment that services the public and from day one. We have had people can't I can't do it. I can't I can't let you start defending it without arguing because what to what? Where's the line though? If all of your public starts walking in here and once shitty light macro beer now that's who you are. If all they want is seltzer now. That's who you are I'm going to defend. This heart of what craftier is is is putting putting a product out there that you make you say is good. This is fun and then getting people to buy into it all right. We're going to debate on this. This is going to be. Already here. We go, so this is GonNa be fun and here's why guess. What happened on day one when he opened our doors for years ago. We had folks saying what you have. That is gluten free. Right. I'm gluten intolerance. I've actually I. What do you have? What do you have? A great tap water for the best half water in the country and we do work perk. Alluding Free Are Hamilton. Tap Water. Berkeley Springs, World Water Competition. You want gold medal winner twice. We have the best tap water title. But. What are you GONNA do? You. You're limited when you have a burs license I can't make cider because that's winery license as fermented fruit. I can't make wine. Obviously to make Sasha thing just say. What is it gluten? Free Element I, don't know about centers I I. It's the same as it's rented rice. Yeah, you, I. Got Add mold in there, too like the the coach. Lists. That's what you want. Can't wear clothes or something you have to like. Move. I'm GONNA pass, but he's. He's the perfect name for the soccer making mold. If we make A, we're GONNA going to call it. Naked Mole I guarantee just going viral. Going viral is the name of our Seltzer. Probably. Bad Taste. No it's gone down here, but it's it's in two and a half weeks. It became our number two seller in an entire. Maybe and maybe that's what bothers me so much as it is so freaking popular. Maybe that's. Look I'm not. Look I make it. It took me six. You. Six months of truly hard trying to figure out how to do this. It's probably about a year to actually get it because it was underdeveloped so underdeveloped on that here's here's the fucked up part to all of this. If you pay extra money, get your a one. A you put bud light on TAP. Guess what you're number. One Dollars Bud light. The second happened because we first off, we can't so we can't do food, but let's but I. See your point and here's where we're going to get a debate. got. Pretzels behind the but you. Where are you gonNA put Pratt's cars pop tarts and a microwave and you've got food. No, no! Trust me locally. We would get skewered. We could not do that, but not a tap the middle care. I'm telling you. But. Here's the thing so and here's where we get. We get into our fund debate. So since day one four years ago, we have folks coming in and saying I need something that is good and free share, or we have people that come in and say you know what I've got a group of six five of US drink beer one of us. Is doesn't like the taste of beer. What are you GONNA do? And we're like all right. What are you? What options do you have? We're not going to get a winery license to do CIDER. That in that encompasses an entire deal, but when you can take corn sugar. And you can ferment it. and. Honestly add real ingredients like we don't screw around, and we don't add extracts and make it so crystal, clear and so dry and blah blah blah. It's you know we're not white claw. We will take. We flavor are Seltzer. They are poured with natural puree. One pump puree Philip. It used to be that when a group of six walked into a taproom and one of them sounds like. They lined up at the bar. You know. It's a nice calm night and you're bartender has time to to to to do this, but they all sit at the Bar Aisle six hundred lineup and five of them. We we all love beer we. I'll take this and I'll take that and they all get their beers and then that number. I don't really like beer. That was win got five got fond. It wasn't like Oh. Yeah. We've got a seltzer here. Discs Senator Seltzer. GonNa Walk Down here and I'M GONNA tend to experts. Do you like coffee. That's coffee porter till you like fruit. We've got a block. Does that conversation still happen if somebody walks in and says I, don't really like beer guys have Seltzer I want that conversation I want so. Have you tried so Orange Ave. Traffic I want that to happen. It's still does. It really does happen on what time. I've set back and listened to. Our. Tenders Tenders Beer Tillerson. Their CICERO certified your servers. Everyone works here has to be in CICERO. air-raid goes in and like hey, what are you like? Oh. So. Were you in the mood? For what what are you looking for? And our guys are really good about steering the people in the right direction I just fear, somebody can walk in the door. See the Seltzer and just ignore the fact that it's. Brewery fear. And this is where I'm going to be in. Here comes. Tedi bar the door. I'm not looking for that. Individual I'm just trying to sell the individual a beer. Or I'm looking for revenue I'm I'm trying to make up for the the months that we got shutdown. That's true, okay. But if you're here to have a good beer. We have good beer. Let's. Let's let's also. Let's also focus on a number two goals. Are Number two goal was to establish community routes. That's not a community of just beer drinkers. When we say, WE'RE GONNA establish community routes established community roofs to everyone. I WANNA fuck with people. I want I. Want a wine drinker to walk into a brewery. Get confused. You guys don't have wine and said no, we don't have. Try this beer and I want that. Claw and edited out of southern Twang I'm sorry. I would. I want somebody to walk in and say that and they'd be like okay. Now now we've got that starting point and let's go from there I. don't want it to do I. Don't want people to walk in and just be like. You're looking. Here's your thing. He walks in and says they want Bud light I want. I want you been? I'm sorry fifteen to one chance we get fifteen bears got one so. I think there are people that walk in and say the only like Bud light, but then they'll have something like approachable blonde they go. This is pretty damn good, but also. I was GONNA say if you're coming in only for Seltzer as you probably don't like beer, anyways, but these guys are great about recommending stuff. Give it a sample. Try this. What do you think and I think? A lot of people get converted a little bit. Staff. I'm telling you are staff. They're ineligible is flat out amazing, but we require them to be. Can you require their knowledge? Can you make a rule that if you come in and just order Seltzer? You have to try to other beers. So try this. Big about it for three minutes and then you can order. Now. Here's the thing you know our Seltzer. We're not looking to take over the world with what we're looking for this. We're looking for an option. For the community, the comes in. That is not willing to have a beer, or there is not able to have a beer physically so. If you're really going to tie, your roots is tie one of your three. Goals of a company. To establishing strong community routes. It's not just some of the. It's got to be all in one of those one of those other things as education exact while and that so the education ties into that as well so someone comes in, they say. I don't like beer. But. Sean twitches right now. I'm you believe you know the fact that Sean even spent? Four to six months, establishing a seltzer to the point where it's actually something that has now become one of our top sellers, which that just four is my mind, but. The fact is put that much time into it throws just really throws me because if you have ever met a curmudgeon when it comes to ruin. Old School Muppets, Waldorf and Stadler in the in the puget making fun of all the meal. Guy. Real be, it's him. He's he's like Jim you damn. Pills nerve make it a Jack Bill. He it's him. He is a traditional to bone. And brewer and it out to to have someone like that actually bend to the will. Of. Honestly our company perspective, which is establish strong commuter routes. We're making great beer. We've got ten different. State National Air Medals on four. Fourteen medals on ten beers so when making really good quality to style beers. But the next step establishing strong community routes. How do you do that with someone that is the suffers from Sierra disease. And you do that by offering them something, so it can go. Ten was the biggest point was. I'm not trying to be sexist at all. Becomes a sexist comment. Disclosure sexist besides. It's like I'm not trying to be racist. Trying to be this, the guy comes up I want he's going to have a beer. The white like. Beard all. Once Something that we can't give them. We can't give them wind. We can't give them. sider. And they have one in done. offended. Thanks? So I needed. Out what I can do within our license. To allow. Whoever who likes. I get it i. get it I so. I'M NOT GONNA lie I'm. I'm I, don't sell certain. Words, I can't because it just irritates me sometimes as long as you get angry that you have to do an pick the tank. Okay. You should see me when I'm doing this. You should see my staff when I'm doing this. You do is let's. Let's let's shift from the Seltzer. Let's let's start wrapping things up because. The tree, the sun is setting behind us. We're on the great. Miami River you know this has been amazing. This I appreciate this it's it's great night. Situations of what everything is is it's all built off these situations these these pieces of time that you can capture and. Beer can. Revive later you. The next time I drink a style or a scout. That's what it's going to make you think. Sitting under a big tree. Shelters. So. Shifting gears from south on I, think just you. Think. You might have it was A. Mental football. Bigger picture. The Community Cincinnati are. Are we okay through all of this? Do we recover? Or are we still about to see all hell breaks loose I I. I, honestly think. We're going to be okay. I truly think. That the Greater Cincinnati area. Is going to? Now think about the situation. So here's what's fun about. China are usually on opposite sides percents. I'm to say we are in the start of a total, Shicho, and here's why. And just even looking at us. If you're a brewery in Ohio right now in the summer. You better make your head. Better do it now. Because if you're a one? In. which we are and you've got no food well, even if you're a new one. You're tavern. Capacity just got cut in half. So you may have had. Fifty sixty people in your tapper in November. The night before Thanksgiving ramp, and that's going to be a night. That sets you up for revenue wise for December. That's not gonNA happen because when cold and flu season hits and October November were. There's a really good chance we're GONNA. See a spike of covid nineteen. One that happens guess what states can put restrictions on on capacity, and I disagree on this because I don't think the state's GonNa show be more L. D.. Hanson I don't think they can. It's not a shutdown. It's going to be a restriction. Restriction now? They were GonNA maintain the strictures that we have right now, but I think. He's GonNa. It is awful. It is awful. Don't don't get me wrong, but I think the community in general. Is Literally going to. Stand. In arms together to keep all of up in a hotel, you this. With our business model, so if anybody's ever not been miserable, who in nineteen thirty three city building? It was part of the FDR. New Deal Project. We took over the Fire Department section of the Citadel Police Fire Old City government. Everything was in his building. Tall, ceilings. But think about. How big they ladder truck is and how big a public truck is! Right so. Our taproom. And then trying to fit A. Fifteen year old brew, House and four thirty barrel from enters in thirty bill tank in that position. Our taffer is probably. Nine hundred. Square feet if someone down there. We have I know this. Our certificate of occupancy said ninety nine people with the doors closed. It's like not to draw the comparison because I'll get emails about it, but like blank slate where they open this production facility and later said we need to fit a tapper. Right and they did. It's like what you guys did knowing. Knowing that we should have had what we did was created this patio. Right that you know and this patio has been literally are lifesaver and the fact that the city approved Dora has. been a lifesaver I cannot tip my hat to the city of Hamilton more than the way they have worked with us, but so let's fast forward into winter. Dora's really not important because nobody wants to walk around. Ten degrees outside I will if I need to for veer. Not, not as many people are dedicated as us, there's four of. Our massive garage doors with the fire trucks used to pull in are going to be closed, which is now? Capacity is ninety nine which. Corneas facing now skipping fifty. Even if you have, you can't fit fifty or non place and have. You can't you're going to be twenty them? So if you're going to be twenty with proper spacing, how and they'll holy heck? Are you going to create the revenue that you did when you were ninety nine? With no restrictions, we would never get the ninety nine, but we might get the seventy on a single night or something like that. We have people that love playing single and we've had to drop that, but. So the my concern is not only for us, but for other boroughs. make your hey in the summer. Make Your Hey, when can? And if that means livery. Doing anything that you're allowed to do to do it, do it do it. You're not you're going to see a severe restriction. Of Revenue Coming in come, September October November, and at flu season hits, and we have another restriction permit. Katie bar the door. Yeah! I was trying to do the positive SCIATIC. Usually, on the doom and gloom guy, but he's doom and gloom I'm usually. Nobody knows what it's going to look like and And We're not out of the weeds, and we might be heading into bigger weeds pizza. Don't know now. Here's my positive note. Think about summer twenty twenty one. When there's a vaccine. When people that have had it, there's a vaccine is there will be? All the conspiracy theorists and Bill Gates will make sure of it, but there there'll be something out there that will look. Here's the thing about the American culture. It's all about perseverance. The the the red blooded American is all about perseverance from the beginning of time. It's still there today. And no one is going to tell an American what they can, and cannot do appear whether it's even wear a mask for God, sakes of people could meaning that, but the bottom line is this, too, shall pass, and when it does. Hold cow we are going to embrace. We are going to lock arms. We're going to hug. We're going to guess what. Tap a beer have a beer. Raise it. Because beer is recession proof that is all about community in his all about the people, and when that happens when we get through this. If you somehow whether the storm, we're not all on the same boat. We're all weathering the same brand and when you get through it. Fast can around absolutely. Even in the in the interim. We'll find those moments to make this rock. We're sitting under an ELM tree with the sun setting at our back, sitting by the Great Miami River and having Beers. I I'm I'm fine with that. This is the. Power about if this is the worst gets in cool fat I recognize that not all of our breweries. have it like this. And I tip my hat to them is leave. I say a prayer for them because you know it, it's. We don't do well unless we do grant. Links will be in the show notes for all of the things we talked about that. I said Burger, chef. was. Hours. Get out there and support your local tapper absolutely If. You need to have a beer which you need to get out SMITHVILLE. Casual pint Hamilton. If you just want to make your own beer, Butler County Bird Society We'll have the links Shannon's like I, said and. We'll get through this. I promise where close since he voices, cincy craft.

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October 14th: Steve Kaczeus and Beer-Thirty HR 2

Brew Talk 1310 KFKA

44:53 min | 1 year ago

October 14th: Steve Kaczeus and Beer-Thirty HR 2

"It's been a long week. Grab a beer and sit back. Here's Tanner Chad in the Brood doctor himself Dr Michael Moser. Good Wednesday evening. Welcome back. Abreu talk we are alive from the Adult Collision Specialists Studios. Everybody out there is having a great Wednesday evening. I am Tanner Schwendt host here on Brew Talk Chatty, young owner of the tavern at Saint Michael's Square. Joining us Dr Michael Mosier UNC brewing in laboratory scientists as well. Shawn Johnson from that same place all joining me here this evening we're talking Amber Ales here. We'll get into that a little bit later on. But we are excited to have on the program. It is the owner of bootstrap brewing, Steve kazue's and he will be joining us he's up on the hotline, but just a little bit of a of a back story bootstrap co-founders, level Leslie and Steve Kazu's both left the high tech industry to follow their dreams of creating an adventurous craft brewery dedicated to producing a wide range of high quality. Ales and lagers. Steve is a mechanical engineer and program manager by training and was an avid home brewer for many years as we've seen a lot of. Brewery owners start that way he graduated from the American brewers guild in the summer of Twenty, eleven Lesley's background is in marketing and joining us now is Steve. The owner bootstrap brewing Steve Thank you so much for taking time and joining us on this evening. Yeah. No sweat man we're going listening to you guys we will I'm sure you haven't learned anything yet but hopefully, you've been entertained at least along the way. Steve. Appreciate it again, and so let's talk about it. We'll start first with the kind of. The. The background because I know that your story has been out there and a lot of craft beer fans know exactly who you are and even if you're not a craft a beer fan, they've senior beers but let's start with how did you decide that now was the time however many years ago that that was the time to start up bootstrap and and get this thing going. You know like he said, I was a avid Berar homebrew or for for a while and what really got things going was The company that I was working for a high tech industry got bought out by another company and that was really the catalyst that my wife and I think in you know we've always talked about having your own business and having control of our own destiny Maybe this is the time to go out and you know follow our passion and Brewin- beer drinking beer socializing with beer folks that was our passion and one thing led to another but the business plan together and. Nobody wanted to invest in us because they're like, what do you know about growing and what do you know about business so We just took our 401K's and started our business and we bootstrap it, and that's how we came up with bootstrap. Rude. I love that that's a great story to start things off When did you know okay I'm going to be I'm going to be pretty darn good at this. you know what I think. It was when we had friends sitting in the basement just drinking a bunch of our beers and we'd always compare versus other beers and we do the blind tastings and. Just like the rest of. Brewery world. The other guys that started the berries I'm sure all their friends and families told them that they have that spear and so that just gave us a level of confidence and WanNa. COP couple of. Competitions and said all right I think this is the path we're going to take. Talking with Steve, the owner of bootstrap brewing company was you ever imagined that you are where you of our today when he first started to new locations, some of the best distribution channels and I'm going I, want to get into that a little bit more because I see you in and liquor stores like the small town that I grew up I want to dive into that a little bit later on. But would you have ever imagined that you would be where you are today? no, not really I mean I was happy. Being the local brewery here what and Now we've expanded, of course, our production into Longmont. But if he outs my wife, she'd say, I knew this was going to happen and We just continue to grow and. but in some good product out there, and we've got a great loyal following and continue to introduce our beers a bunch of people and they just it just keeps growing. So I I I love it and I'm really excited about where features gone. So when you when you first started, you're putting together your brewing system what what size system did you? Come up with as the way to actually get started and start making some profit. Yeah it was a three and a half barrel relatively small Ellen, right? Yeah. It was really small and I actually bought it from Eddie. Line brewing and Yeah and we just started in eight hundred square foot place here Niwa and eventually took over the building but. Yeah. It was fun three and a half barrels, and now we're on a thirty barrel Brew House and I saw on near website to that you don't do any filtration it all. D- centrifuge or just natural Precipitation that Yeah Yep you got. It's all natural although right now in in Longmont, we did purchase Olympic. And so we are playing around with that on different products like our Seltzer. And so forth and it's actually kind of funny because it was the first time that I processed are nineteen, fifty, six, golden, Hill, and holy smokes that came out. So clear it was like water and It's just crazy call I mean as an engineer I geek out on. I'm the same way I I really enjoy when things work together really well. Even natural natural crashing and stuff like that is really nice to. But it's kind of Nice every once in a while to have something else that just helps cleaning up just a little bit. You got it. Absolutely. Hate Steve. This is Sean you know eight I wanted to ask, I don't know if you're aware but twenty twenty, it's been a little bit of a different. You know just kind of as the years got along what changes have you guys made how have you talked on the show a couple of weeks ago about how you guys are you know really really excelling through this whole pandemic and all that going on just what changes did you make? How did you approach the year once everything started getting shut down and we've faced all of this and just talk about that a little bit. So I I was listening to you guys about the restaurants and and the burris moving forward and you know I'm hoping that there's not a lot of that You know the stricter rules and and shutdowns like we went through in March they mend out. Yeah. That was tough for everybody we were shut down for eleven weeks and You know we have to regroup We did what everybody else did you know just figured it out that the to go sales and But what was interesting was that our production side just kept growing and I think it's because we were all going to the liquor stores and we knew we were going to stay home. And we were hoarding beer and liquor and drink at home. So you know you weren't going to the tap room, but you wanted to drink anyways drink some beers. So you were gone and and bind at the liquor store on grocery store. So that was you know that was tough for us but again, the production side, just kind of kept US moving and When we came out of it, we did the best that we could with our taproom and we were doing what everybody else is doing the social distancing the math We even put ionizers into our air flow systems. We've got you know full exchange of the air thrower, taproom, and stuff like that. So. once we came out, people came back and it's been a great summer and now we're just wondering what's going to happen. You know with the winter. And and again, we're on the same thing where we've got a patio up front and were enclosing the patio to give us the additional seating that we're hoping we can get and every bit helps. So what's been your food approach to throughout all this with with those kind of regulations. The food approach? Yes. Yeah. So we we have food trucks on a constant basis and we do serve some food in in house but you know it's pretzels burritos that kind of stuff but it's really the food trucks and we've got a lot of local restaurants in our our area. I don't know if you know where we're at but we're down by left hand brewing and Oskar Blues found the road. And right off a main street, we've got a lot of great restaurants and and pizza joints and stuff like that. So kind of where I wanted to go with two if you don't mind Steve is is. What that scheduling of those food trucks is a easy to schedule them right now or or what does that look like? Yeah, it's it's tough I, think all of us juries are going after the same guy is and those guys are rotating around but we do have some steady food trucks that do show up and So we're grateful to them for doing that and You know if somebody drops out, we try to rotate somebody else. In and it's it's working out really well, his BRITANNIC radio joined by Steve Kazoo, the owner of bootstrap brewing company Steve I don't know if you're familiar with where Kersey Colorado is but that's the town that I grew up and and I went back and went into the liquor store the other day and and it's a couple of your beers. Their lush puppy was inside of there. How did you guys excel so well in getting into those? Small town liquor stores, and why was that a focus for your distribution channel? Yeah. So we we work with some awesome distributors. So it's basically the course distributing family in Colorado. So we have like cores distribution down Denver Metro area. We've got high country that has all of the northern area in western Slope One and mountain back up in the mountains and they're all part of the family and the guys have just rocked it for US I. Think. we've got a great product and we go. We help these guys and Leslie, and I are usually. Well, for the longest time, we were the only salespeople on bootstraps. So we were always out on the streets. We were doing ride alongs and I think you know the guys really appreciate that and they've gone all out to help us get into the furthest reaches of Colorado. So it and I'm sorry I don't know where Kersey. Kersey Colorado don't you trust me I'm not offended at all it's about. Twenty Miles East here of greed are actually be twenty minutes east. Of Greeley. So very, very small town there's one liquor store to town and. I grew up on that form out there and it was all bud light and and that's all it was drink. So I was pleasantly surprised when I made a stop in there and. Stopped and got the got the lush puppy and I was able to to Kinda step forward and get that. But I know I know Sean got a we got a couple more questions Steve if you've got time for us absolutely. Yeah. So my one of my questions that I've always wanted to kind of ask because the first thing that made me interested in bootstrap beer is that at the liquor store, your guys cans are so unique compared to everyone else's they have such interesting and cool to look at art on them as well as just the look of the can is not like anything else. You know you have all that. Metallic Sheen, and all that stuff going on there. I was curious. Where did that arise from? Because you don't really see a lot of people you see stick to the status quo of just rap or just the generic templates that are available. What made you guys go that route of this can that's so unique and POPs out so much in the liquor stores. Yeah that's a great question and I think that's an eye catcher for a lot of people when they go to the liquor store and don't know who we are and So that was really an inspiration from my wife Leslie and working with. moxy. Dozo and she just basically told him, hey, have a blank slate where young we're new nobody knows us and we wanna make some kind of impact in the market I mean the first beer that we've put in a can was. and. Why would we try to get into that market and compete? we thought we had a great tasting beer and we just needed some amazing artwork and so the guys Moxie. So so-so. became over the intercom dose about the beer and they just came up with this incredible design that just denied it out of the park. So you know like you guys said you're looking at the CAM. Number one, it's a matte finish. So that touches one sense. The other is that you have to pick up the cannon rotated to see the story. You don't just look at the front right almost all about camps. In fact, all our cans have cowbell and there. So you gotta find it. Kinda. I did not know that. Okay. It's on the website even says more cowbell Yep. That's all about more cowbell back. You'd have expel Pale Ale in there somewhere was Lee would surprise me putting my face in there. So it's Sitting there with the beavers stuff. So but yeah. So it was really a great job between Leslie Moxie Soza and they said we're going to come up with the best design. You just need to make the best beer and so it was a great combination and we just carried. Those animals through the family of Beers, and that's just a favourite thing for Leslie. She just loves animals some I guess we're going to have that on every candidate ever comes out. To another, this is one brewers love to hear but what's your favorite bootstrap beer and then on the other end? What's your favorite guilty pleasure beer? man you know go on phases kind of like what you guys were talking about with the seasons and and whatnot. So like the summer I was I was just pounding the Seltzer gotTA. Spark, delicious Seltzer. lust puppy is definitely my Go-to mine too. Yeah. Wreak havoc you've had. It you've had wreak havoc. We. We had nine here just a couple weeks ago actually right I'm that's one a couple of world beer cups and a couple of gats metal in fact, Gabi up is coming up this. Friday. So we're hoping that we hit it again. But Yeah So guilty pleasure is we're coming out with a thirteen and a half percent imperial stout. A, we we introduce that last winter we just had one can give it, and then we put the rest of them into would for rum barrel and another one on another bats into some PX Sherry Barrels And and these things are delicious. You know how you hold the glass in you just Kinda turn the glass on by bring it back. From. The side of the glass. So what's the pairing with this one? ooh Good question. Hang on a second luckily right across the table. Below it. Imperial Zeus. Now, she's looking at ups. I'm not sure she did one for that. That's one of the cool things about bootstrap as each one of the beers has an has a music pairing to go with Yeah Yeah and you know what we are big music people We love our bands that. our local and they're awesome and I even keep the music on the in the brewery for manner so that the yeast I truly believe that the yeast loves the music and they make beer what it is today. That's awesome Steve I know we we didn't have this plan. Is there any chance we need to take a break? Is there any chance you'd stick with us for one more segment? Yeah absolutely. I love it. All right. Let's do it I. We've got some. We haven't even gotten to the non alcoholic beer that you're introducing I. Know that's why we're having you on to talk about that. So let's get to that and much much more on the other side. We've got Steve Kazoo joining us the owner of bootstrap brewing. We'll be back on this side is brew Talk Radio on Northern Carlos Voice Thirteen, ten Kfi Kfi. Do you like to drink beer. Do you like to talk about beer than we have show for you? I really enjoy this spring company a lot. This one I think is just not there for me you talk on thirteen ten k. gay me it was too heavy and like I wasn't a big fan of it here news reviews and everything beer I'm WanNa make sure that if I'm talking about beer to somebody else I know what I'm talking about. Wednesday nights at six on northern Colorado's voice thirteen ten KFI. Cone now. Weekdays at four northern Colorado's voice off. Thirteen ten KFI K. Twenty seven the time welcome back into the auto collision Specialist Studios I'm -Tainer Schwendt we've got beard thirty coming your way presented by the tavern at Saint. Mark's Square in just a couple of moments. But Hey you know they say in Radio that when you've got a good interview going on, it doesn't matter what your clock says. That's kind of where I'm out here because we've got Steve. Kazu, the owner boot sham brewing joining US still and Steve thanks for sticking around with us. I'm going to play a clip for you here. And you talked about the Seltzer a little bit earlier. This is from a show a couple of months back. I WANNA play a clip for euro quick are strapped citrus. So Dr Mosier here hate Celtics I hope you can hear that I? Know I know Chad was so rudely talking over him in, but he said bootstrap is making me a Seltzer Fan. So on top of all the other incredible beers that you do you guys just on the Seltzer train and you nailed it. Talk through what it was like Brewing Seltzer, you clearly a fan of it, talk us through that. You know anytime I come up with something new a new beer or new style or whatever it. It takes me a number of batches to work through and usually takes me I don't know eight months nine months sometimes a year to finally come up with the beer exactly the way I want it like lust puppy took a year. Well worth the other way. I'm sorry. You're. Right on right on and the Seltzer was the same way and I just wanted to say Seltzer to be super neutral, clear, great, and and then we infuse it with real fruit. So I I think that's the key. You know a lot of the centers that are out. There are great They just infused the fruit flavor in a different manner and we use real fruit. So we get the real color, you get the real flavor and the real aroma and that was important for me. If I'm going to drink something like that or any of our beer's I've gotta be able to drink three or four of them and. So that's what you're gonNA find that's different between us and and the majority of the altar makers. Fair. Well so we were talking about these trends obviously the seltzer craze I is crazy right now. But you're starting to see a launch in Non Alcoholic Beers. We saw this. We did a couple of shows down from the great American Beer Festival. Last year we talked with Athletic Brewing company I believe they're out of California. That day did the the one of the first on Alcohol Beers and kind of talk to them about that, and they said, this is a this is a phase. A trend that you're going to see start catch on across the nation you guys jump on with releasing these strapless non alcoholic IFA. Very simple question. Only this subject because I know that you've been getting asked a lot of these Y You know for last couple of years it's a couple of reasons. So just bear me on this for the last couple of years we'd have customers come and asking for a non alcoholic beverage, and usually we end up serving them fruit soda or root beer water tomato juice or whatever, and so it started with customers looking for an alcohol free alternatives. So we had designated drivers we had folks who had health issues Sometimes don't pregnant women there are people who are just they don't drink alcohol and are doing this over social gathering thing and then there's other guys who are doing active lifestyle and all that stuff. So. I wanted something for our taproom to take care of the folks who come in and they wanna beer, and so I thought I can make an any beer tastes great for that group but on a personal level I started to lead a little bit more of an active lifestyle. So I've been running biking this whole summer and I was learning more about an a beer I realized that it's a great anything under two percent actually re hydrates here. and. So as I was learning that and other health benefits of any beer, I also realized, Hey, why don't I throw in some electrolytes in here and why don't they make this? Lifestyle for athletes and people that have an active lifestyle and our sweating and working now, not all this stuff. So it just kinda crossed the full spectrum of folks who want the experience and they can go to a bar and they can come to a burry. Eating out with their friends that can drink any beer they don't. They don't get the buzz and then they can drive home and run two miles. And it's fascinating that you're going to see this more and more this is releasing in. November. Is that correct? That's right. Yeah, we've been. Crazy can if you saw the cameras yea. For sure we're going to be sharing that up on our on our facebook page as well, but it is. Just. Those okay. I don't want to be rude and ask it. But is it are those horses are the horses eating a saddle and Yeah I get. Okay. I see it. Now I see it just takes to get through things. It's wild unbridled horses that are strapless. I like it a lot forget. The Purple Purple Wars is on there. That's incredible. Hey I know doc has one last question for you here. So let's get to that. Yeah. So did you ever come up with a good pairing with music with that imperial stout? We heard you guys talking a little bit in the brakes and was wondering if you if you have find one or a tentative one. How `bout thunderstruck by CD's outstanding. It. Got In it so. Some payroll style. Steve Hey. Thank you so much for joining. US Manna we wish you nothing but the best of luck through the rest of twenty twenty here and This is something we can do again real soon because we well, I guess it's no secret we love your beers and we appreciate you. Joining us here this evening. Right on and I. Appreciate the support guys and stay safe from stay. Healthy. Thanks Steve we appreciate it. All right. You got. That is Steve. Kazu's the owner of bootstrap brewing company well, done by. Well, great questions, guys I thought that was very informative interview but I will tell you what it's going to put a time crunch on beer thirty. So let's get a break. This is brew talk on northern? Count Voice. Thirteen. Ten KFI. Right with mornings with Gail, weekdays from six to nine. Thirteen ten KFI, K.. You know your neighbor. Judge, this November be educated when you. Get to know your judge dot. COM sponsored by the Colorado Office of judicial performance evaluation, the Colorado Broadcasters Association and this station. Party a northern Colorado's forks thirteen ten KFI K. Block Party Wednesdays from four ten PM. Amber Amber Hamburg Gambir. Our. Number. I'll give you for a dollar. Guess. What beer were doing here on beer thirty presented by the taverners I know it's not Ip Sean and you're wrong on that one eight is amber can have a dollar. No, you got it. Wrong. You said I I heard. That, might be my favorite. Look that up just look up the guy who sings your name over and over and over and over and over so He looks like a creep but he did a great job without we're doing amber beers and we didn't get to the history of them. The the beer food pairings but Dan. Hamburgers. I love it. We'll get into it here. Beer thirty who I didn't even. Back in here. I. Think we're we're starting with the best one here I think maybe. That's introduced. So I brought in Seoul craft brewing company's all mountain amber. It's from saliva six percent alcohol by volume and Brood there in saliva. So I think pours is a very nice golden amber color and has a wonderful aroma and I'll leave it to you guys to fill in the blanks. Yeah. The only knock I have on this beer is that it's slightly hazy but in this world, it doesn't even matter. So you start negative every single time Ryan and I and our production me sit down and go back and find the start of every beer thirty that you've had and you're like, would you last ones? Okay Bu-. What does the corporate management to positives and negative and a positive or something like that? Okay. Well, the positive is that this is exactly the beer using all of my beer sensory classes to teach the difference between Ales and lagers. This is such a good example of an amber beer. I'm sorry I took Shawn's class back in college. I had to do it I'm sorry in no, you can't take my degree back continue on I mean. You're this. That's the closed captioning model mobile. Don't worry I'm burying this frustration deep within it'll it'll come out eventually but I've got some room so that I can vary some of that emotion. But no I use this as an example because it's such a good example of a clean AOL style that doesn't have anything off with it doesn't have anything crazy going on. It's just a good example of an amber and win comparing this I usually will use a Dunkel from a couple of different breweries but I always try to find this soul craft amber because it's such a good representation of the beer style. I have actually been to saliva and I've been to their BURRI. and honestly the fact that the cans make it all the way out here the Bruce a lot smaller than I thought it would be, but it turns out everywhere up in the mountains saliva Eddie Line you know all those Burris in the mountaineer they have. To distribute in the half you way because there's nobody up there I mean there's some people but but while outside of the summer when nobody riding rafting and stuff, there's nobody there. So you know all distribute but this is by far one of my favorite ambers that's out there your time has been taken up a sorry I've been watching the confirmation hearing where everybody just gets a certain senator. Your time is up I'm just kidding. Well said a you went positive I appreciate that I will keep this short I will keep the sweet. If I had to pick one word to describe this beer I'd say solid, it's solid all the way through from the from the nose on it from the taste to it. Nothing's confusing it's not a confusing. Compared to some of the other members I've had. Very good the the six percent is about where I'd up at. It's not going to overwhelm you but you know it's they're. Very. Very solid beer. I like it too nice. Multi sweetness. Great, like I said hamburger beer. Easy drinking I could drink it anytime on now yield the remainder of my time. Gentlemen from UNC Brewing Science Oh. And I'll I'll gladly take remainder that time to just say that I think the finish is slightly bitter of the little bit of hot by right at the end, which is just what I'm looking forward to make it kind of a crisp finish and now I'm ready for another. SIP. A. Good beer all around very good beer. Let's get to the ratings on this. Since it is your beer. You will go last we'll start first with Sean well, conveniently, I brought this chart system when. I'd like to submit this document to. Actually thing I printed off an eighteen by forty five foot slide show that I could have done a presenter but here it is anyways. Now I'm going to give it a nine and a half I have very little negative. Again. The only thing is that it's not it's a little hazy, but it's it's amazing. It is it's very good and and there's a ton of solid beers out there for me. In with that being said, I'M GONNA go a little lower not much I'm going to the nine to on this beer I think it's very good. Having. Had A couple of these other beers that are on the table. I'm pretty confident in on this one. Chad. I'm not far. Past. Guys going with a nine. Great Beer overall. And I think I'll go with the nine five on this one as an amber ale I think it. Kind of is a good example of that style that does make it brutal approved. Of. That was good. I was not expecting. Yeah. We've been doing some production meetings. We've actually been treating this radio show or something like that. Here's the next beer. This is the one that I got from on the rocks liquor, which we remind you is the official liquor store of Brew Talk Radio Off of Highway thirty four and forty seventh avenue. If you're worried, you still not comfortable going into places. You can go through their drive through that's open until midnight every single day of the week whether it's the Lacrosse I still enjoy the Lacrosse ice cream. You can get it there or whether it's one of these beers you hear about on Brew Talk You can stop and make sure that they have it. Make sure you mentioned that you've got it. You heard about them right here on talk radio. This is the Colorado native. Amber. This is available only Colorado apparently from Colorado native So they say that. The multinational is it's about halfway through. This is their scale obviously, and I'll let you guys talk about it a little bit later on five and a half percent alcohol thirty. Behind it. I've had this bureau. I'm not an incredibly I'm not an incredible fan of this. To me, it feels like after that I drink after you get that that after taste if feels like you've been sucking on a penny, that's kind of what I get them that metallic feel of it not a big fan of it, but I will open it up Ford. Yeah well, you know money's hard to find. Not. Supposed to eat those by the really okay or put them in your mouth at I would could help a lot of problems. I have jet what are your thoughts on this? It's not horrible. It's not it's very luxury to me. It's very light. It doesn't amber lager. Log Okay. That makes more sense. This is sorry I'm interrupting your time is better than. After this is better following a the sole craft than it was earlier. Now that first one that you poor I wonder if something just happened to it, are you getting a little bit of banana on the note and a little bit? Yeah. I Very I. Get more Metallic Salon the end than no is definitely still get the metallic part on the on the first started I'm thinking Oh, this could be you like an English pale kind of knows like a bath. But it does not taste nor finish that way. No. Is, and that's because it's logger that's part of it but the other part is there's just A. Something not quite sitting well with me in the back of the tastes just doesn't doesn't do it like it's not bad. Don't get me wrong if this is what they had in a cooler at a party, I probably drink it. I probably have the ice in. But it's got bubbles. It's got alcohol. In it Kinda, metallic finish it doesn't have as much character as the sole craft had. It's very compared to the beer. We just had a very flat and flavor not just because it's a logger because loggers often have very toned down character to them but this one is just even for a logger, it just feels very boring is as far as. My wisdom teeth removed when I drink this beer and I, don't know what do I know that it's very strange very specific and probably only me but it feels like you just. And again, I promise that know how to stop eating I. Promise. I don't eat a lot opinions. But that's what it feels like right it feels like a piece of metal that I just had my mouth and say, I don't like ours not as bad as chewing on tin foil fillings Oh that's not bad. What? What are guys doing your free same ballpark? You eat. Somebody Hey. Bugs ooh Shiny I should eat that. Let's go to the. You never put a nine volt battery and your braces either none of my braces on my tongue I've done it. Yeah Talk. We did them on a braces and ever had. And pretty cool. But doesn't sound cool. Brute talk would like to remind you try any of these stunts at home. Party. Let's get. Let's get the ratings here. Now, this is the Colorado native. Carl. Native does good beer but. Let's get to the ratings for the Colorado native amber. I wasn't gonNA say, this isn't one of them prefacing what's your rating is going to be correct nears can't before off not far off I know not my favorite of the amber style I think the previous one we had. Was Much better I'm going to go six and a half on it. Now realizing that we're also comparing apples and oranges, we had an amber ale and our. Buddy logger I'm still going to say that even as a beer goes that that one's a six for me. Yes six and a half I'm. Yeah I'm going five and a half on this it's it's not great. In and who knows maybe There's all these different things that can go south in a beer but I do know that if you don't want this one from on the rocks Liger, they've got a lot of other great ones in there but for this Colorado native the amber lager, it's a No from me dog not talk approved. It's not good. I feel like there there are people out there. That would enjoy that beer though right I know lots of Colorado native fans. Anyhow are US Kanter I surely those. Right thirteen ten. Let's finish that just. Get a couple of minutes left here chat, right so this is from bells brewing. In. This is their American Amber Ale. Ringing in right at five point eight percent. The beer that helped build bell's brewery So it's one of their flagships. And it's Nice and calmly and multi and. And I'm kind of enjoying it. Yeah and as we started pouring by the time, it got to me. This has a little bit of sediment in the bottom of the bottom a little bit. So that's okay. That's That's fine. But. It'd be nice to be warned about that on the labels on point. I guess I didn't even know. So mine is a perfectly cloudy, poor and unfortunately. Nice and clear. But you don't WanNa see which is the chunks of eastern it, which is fine protein chunks for an amber ale. You're not expecting that if you were giving a half of Isan or a wish or something I feel Tang did we ran into this problem problem? I can't remember which one. Remember either the grapefruit side or that I brought in no this was now this was just the two of US I. Don't Remember Deakin you go look back that was two or three weeks good. Go Ryan a look up what We have the same sale. Did. It wasn't report my beer and it was fine and then tanner port here's fortune. Chunks of big chunks of yeast. It won't hurt you but I don't know. But sometimes it's off putting if you're not expecting. A. Lot of people who don't know they'll look at that and say, only there's a bunch of gunk in my beer like I'm not I don't want that like I think that it's infected or spoiled or whatever, and they'll go I say if the if if you know it's going to happen in your beer you on your label, you got to put it. You put in Gilbert what's Twice, before swirl before portia, what's what's the beer? That's should? Always say more third of it out and then swirl import the rest of it because they don't want these chunks they wanted to be cloudy. So obviously, not after a great start, let's continue on with our conversations here. Any thoughts on this? It finishes quite clean. Has a a nice, amber aroma. And I think it really does a great job. It's it's a good example of an American, Ale. American amber. You know you get the chunks in there, but it's not like they're big and you feel. Like you're doing on sand or anything like that. It's good. It's a good representation of the Amber Ale style. A the only other off-putting thing for me. So my came out pretty clear this. Smells like. It was the Pumpkin Beers. It was the Pumpkin beer you brought in. By the way that was cloudy I can't remember we're thinking about. Yup. Yeah. I we'll think about during the break It's it's got a little bit of that. That's not in there. It smells like. Dirty socks to me. MUSTY musty musty like Jim Colosio need to be changed just like right on the verge or. It's not necessarily earthy for me. It's like those Hey I've been wearing these gyms for last couple of weeks I need to change him. Anyhow, let's get to I. Didn't get that smell didn't either. Off Pudding are you sure it's not just your gym clothes that you're currently wearing. I am I'm sitting here like. Okay we were we messed up this we need to have you bail me out how long do we got left right? Yeah. We need to go here. Some ratings. Eight. Eight. Eight seven, not brew tiger-proofed. We did cigarette. We'll come back. We'll probably get redo this because it was a rush to judgment we'll talk about it more it's Bruce Doc and North Dakota's voice thirteen ten kfi Dan Patrick, the whole show and Colin cowherd or northern. Colorado's voice thirteen, ten KFI. So. We do have an executive movement going on here. I am making a change Ryan I am going to redact my seven. And Place an eight on the beer. This is the bail, the Bells Amber Ale which does Ryan. Make. Bruce Doc approved. Of Bob. Alright. Next week fellows. What everything would you use your words? What beard you know? Craft. Say. Hey can you pass me that Seoul crowd? Everything else that was open. What are we thinking for next week or do we want to take some time to deliberate on it? How about an ESP Ooh? Those are so hard to find I mean they're difficult to find. Are there hamburgers were almost difficult? I mean who wants to red? Hook who wants bass? That's all you can buy a drink bass. Right. Well. We'll let you know follow us on facebook. We'll take pictures of our brew talk approved. Beers. That'll be there in case you're wondering what the hell they look like. You'll be to find him there. Chadian onto the TAVERNA's Square. Thanks for the insight tonight man, we really appreciate it good luck to you and the rest of the restaurant owners out there. Thanks. Dr Michael Mosier Cricket Cricket Yeah. Thanks for showing appreciated John Johnson as always I need to reach back out to Steve and see if I can get a rebate for all the beer I bought. Yeah we've we've spent probably a lot of money on bootstrap right? Kelly did better as the show in. He nodded he's good knickknacks coming up your your way here on thirteen ten KFI. We'll be back at it next Wednesday from six to eight until then this northern Carlos voice thirteen ten Kfi. Cheers.

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September 23rd: Pumpkin Beer W/ Dan Miller and Graeme Hirstwood HR 1

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September 23rd: Pumpkin Beer W/ Dan Miller and Graeme Hirstwood HR 1

"It's been a long week. Grab a beer and sit back. Here's Tanner Chad in the Brood doctor himself Dr Michael Mosier. Here Wednesday. Afternoon Northern Colorado welcome in. To the googles and specialists studios. It's GonNa be a fun one here tonight. Well We. Talked about Pumpkin spice beer couple of weeks ago, and if it was GONNA be too early for Pumpkin Beers and all this and we decided you know two three weeks ago it was too early. But now unfortunately, we cannot delay the inevitable. It is time for Pumpkin. Beers and Chad Young. There's a lot of these sitting here on the table you got quite the the assortment there will. Ever and I figured go bigger go home. So I went big and. We we've got some great ones. Is that how you say that beliefs? Pumpkin pack. So they've got they went all in on this pumpkin beer. Like. That before yeah. I thought it would like Pumpkin Beers. That's great. It is for sure there's the night out the great pumpkin. Moon and what is this one? PUNK CASINO PUNK Achino I hate that name I'm not GonNa lie to you I hate that I love creative names but when you get to cute into funny with it, it's Easter. With pumpkin. That's true. Got Another one here that just called punk nail. Yeah. They took the. The M. Olympic. Mid West thing for sure Hunkin. But I guess, okay I mean, what's the other one over there? PUNK PACINO KNOW Pumpkin. That's the name of it and it's it's that we've actually had this one I had. A. Helps housewarming party and it's the. wrote it to get it out of my free. But. Spoiler alert spoiler for sure punk Achino though I, I got to redact that statement because it is the coffee Pumpkin Hill. So okay. That makes sense that makes more sense. Now, I'm GONNA redacted sorry. But anyhow, if you can't tell because normally. Two gentlemen that join US would have chimed been by now Dr Michael Mojer is out on assignment. This evening Shawn Johnson, is there as well. So we will be missing both of them but I think we're GONNA more than make up with it with these guests that we've got line saying we got some some great people that the GonNa. Call in and we're going to chat with a little bit. Yeah. It's GonNa be awesome by the way Ryan Kelly during the production work as always Dan Miller owner of Mighty, river brewing, company. Of course, we talked to Dan just A. Couple of months ago about what was going on at? Mighty, river I was there just the other day, their New Zealand I still rock, and in case you haven't been able to go out there and check it out but they were brewing that there's nothing better than walking into brewery the day that they're bringing back and that smells there and favorite smells in the world right and and what I love. The guys that we were meeting with didn't necessarily know why he was so strong and I was like, no, it's not normally like this I'm like they're brewing back there and Explain that a little bit which was fun. But we'll talk with Dan because I know that they they're going to be pumped out some fall type beers here before too long if I'm not mistaken. PUMPKIN coming out soon or or his out. Yeah I. Think he told me they. Had To be last week. So I, think this week it was releasing something right so I think that's going to be coming out this week. We'll talk Dan about it. That's where we're GONNA have him on. We want to get an update. I guess perfect and then we're going to chat with an old friend. Probably one of the most entertaining. People we've ever had on this program agreed he's incredible. It's Graham Hurst. What he's the brewing, the head brewer at McLellan's brewing company McLellan's is. We've been. We've been lucky enough. You know when things are normal we've been to a lot of different breweries. McLellan's out there for me. Sure. The style, a beer, the atmosphere, the brute knowing who's back there like it. Docks the mad scientists grams not far off I think those two together and All Hell may break loose. The Scottish version he's Scottish version of Doc Ryan hasn't got the chance to meet Graham. So he's going to talk to them on the phone that's going to be a fun one. We'll have him coming up. We're also going to talk about well, the pumpkin style and everything like that. But what we're going to talk a little bit about covert and how things are changing on the restaurant and brewery front how we're seeing more burris expanse. We'll dive into that as well. Second Hour, we're going to talk with Kyle. The owner of Wiley Roots and Chad you you sent me an article earlier today they're expanding they are expanding they just. Added well a few months ago they added a couple thirty barrel fermenters and they just added a couple more now and the now just made a new exciting higher to kind of help oversee a lot of the brewing with all that expansion going on. So Brandon Banbury, he was the CO founder of hailstorm brewing in Chicago on the outskirts outskirts of Chicago. So He's still in Illinois actually he's going to be calling in with Kyle and that's going to be a fun one because Wiley roots has always been. Nontraditional and a lot of things that they do and they've handled the nineteen. Mass situation wherever you want to call it a little bit differently than everybody else but it's working for them and it really is seems to be anyway. Yeah and that's what I'm very excited to talk to all of these guys about of remember were I think I saw a poster that said happy six month anniversary fourteen days just to slow the spread right and it's i. mean nobody ever thought that this was going to be going. This far. So it will be interesting from the brewers perspective with Graham, from the owners perspective with with Dan about how they're still going you know financial and everything like that, and then with Kyle and brandon about expanding during this time and I think that these are going to be three obviously three interviews but four people it's going to be a blast and it's GonNa hit on all of these different subjects and discussions that agreed I mean. Getting straight from the Horse's mouth for shirts no better source. No, not at all. So we're excited about that. You don't want to go anywhere. If for some reason, you do have to leave us reminder our podcast will be up as soon as the show is over thirteen ten. K OF K DOT COM or on our facebook page, you just gotTa Look Up Brew Talk Radio you'll be able to find us and you'll be able to find that Linka to to the podcast as soon as. It's going to be a part of the conversation. Please feel free to chime in nine, seven, zero, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, nine, seven, zero, three, five, three, thirteen at ten Chad let's talk about a little bit of a trip. You had over the weekend. So the beer you brought back there where we sit on right now. Yeah. So we went up and to visit my son up in rapid city South Dakota just a quick trip. We drove up Friday night and came home Sunday. So went up there. He's going to school up there so we visited with him Went into a couple. Establishments but didn't make any breweries. I'm but a bartender recommended a couple of South Dakota Beers here that were drinking for Based, in Sioux, falls South Dakota. So Kinda, the other side of South Dakota, the East River instead of the West River. But. Brewing remmy brewing. Yeah. So yeah, it's so the we've had the IP A and then we had the wheat beer rang leading into it. I prefer the we'd a little bit more the Hefei metal, the Hefei metal five point three percent Bavarian style wheat half of as I should say but it was. That I really enjoyed the IP as not bad. It's bad. It's a little different little lighter. but it's coming in at seven point six per solely cow. I didn't see that. I, you don't get that at all you don't. We so you took the top half of this beer and I took the bottom half years. It's it's. Pretty. A lot of yeast in the bottom again, I'm not hating it though it's still pretty good beer but. By poured it and I said Oh. That's Chunky junkies and and you can still see can you see underneath there can just completely cloud surly a bad thing. It's just a little extra east there and right not a problem it doesn't affect ingestion. Yeah. Other some people that swear by Burs for hangover cure so. Really your your pre. Hangover. I'm creating hangover while fighting A or. visit, like mixing your vodka with pedialyte or something like that. rehydrate dehydrate. I, do like it but. It's. It's definitely yeasty. You definitely get. Looking at the bottom of your last again, they've got quite a big chunk nurse. WHO That's not typical for most beers. Every once in a while you see, did you see it normally with the I mean is this the style that you're going to see that with actually surprising the heff is in right now that you normally see a lot of that and he and the. The the yeast adds to that to the flavor of the beer right and. Get that banana covy is is that the is that the beer that says some poor. Swirl it around and then yeah I you expect, and at least they give you a warning on that. That was almost I mean, you could feed a feed a cow with as much in. The bottom. It's OK. Ryan I grew up on a farm what? Are you doing me for grow grow. Here we go. Moo. Moo Okay Yeah we got to replace that be with an Then we'll begin. All right. Let's take a quick break because we do have Dan. Miller owner of Mighty River brewing company coming up next, it's going to be a guest field filled brew talk tonight don't go anywhere. It is brew talk the Call Voice Thirteen, ten KFI came. It's a party, a northern Colorado's voice thirteen, ten Kfi K. The block party. Wednesdays from four to ten PM. So. Jet. Are We. Re this people right now are we the people who decorating way before? Halloween. Halloween one of my favorites so. I'm all in. It's still September twenty third. So we. Pump. Decorating for Christmas, the certainly. Don't like that either I don't like that either I'm definitely Links giving Christmas music is the worst music there is by the way. Let me just throw that out there I. think that you know if I ever run for president which I have to wait twelve years until I can run technically before the constitutional and allowed I've looked into it The. First rule I would make Christmas music could only be played from December twenty second through December twenty six. That's it. You get that one we got your platform that's my platform I'm running on I bet I would get surprisingly large number of votes. I'd bet by the hallmark channel like the People Watch hallmark probably won't vote for me but. I might do it anyhow. Let's get this train back on the tracks here as we are talking Pumpkin Beers as always. But like I mentioned, we're going to have a couple of guests on the program and very excited about this first one. Dan Miller, the owner of Mighty River. Brewing company Dan have you got a pumpkin be ready to go yet? We do We have our Autumn River Pumpkin Ale. Is. It's doing very well, people love it. We, we put it out and and and I can't believe how quick it's going. So people are are loving it. So by the way, you get my vote on that. Christmas music. Thank you. I've got I've got like three votes already I mean. Here's the good stuff. When you see my name on that ballot. Dan, you gotta be ready even if it's nine twelve years, it's no hey, tanner's thirty five this year, and then you can write it in and we'll go does that sound like a plan? Grammy on by the way absolutely. Well, I wanted to touch base I was in last week and you guys had a lot of stuff cook and your Bruin back there it smelled delicious. I, talk about that in the in the first segment there's nothing better than walking in newberry and realizing that they are brewing that day. 'cause you get a little extra atmosphere to go around what were you working on and what do you got coming up man? So that was the if I remember correctly that I think we were ruined the shower, the Raspberry Margarita, Baja Raspberry Margarita shower that day and what's what we have going on as far as new beer is our and we're releasing on Saturday with river fest, which is Our our second annual. River Fest Party on Saturday and The Reverend Martin is released that day. So It's going to be a good one as this is this river fest Mars has been one you've done in years past or is this is a new recipe this year. It's the same as last year. may tweaked it just a touch, but not not anything major, just a little bit in the malts but it's pretty much the same thing and it was a huge hit last year this year you know due to Covid we're going to expand the taproom a little bit to the outdoors and out into the parking lot. So we can try and accommodate everybody so that they can come in and. Get the margin and and we've got some stuff going on that day. That's going to be a lot of fun. You guys already have that great patio there and where you're located gives you that ability but you know, Dan. This is a question of kind of looking forward. A lot of people are you know what? What are your plans idea plans in place for going when as this weather starts to change a little bit in that? Have you started to implement any different? Plans of action. Yeah I mean we're we're. GonNa. We're GONNA try and extend the patio season. As long as we can me we bought a couple more patio heaters. So that people can be comfortable. Out on the patio for long as possible obviously when it gets winner and we all know what it's like here. That's probably off the table but we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA put some seats at the bar but you know obviously, we're GONNA use precautions to make sure everybody's safe But yeah, we are GONNA re Kinda reinstate that and just you know try and maximize the the taproom as well as we can. But obviously keeping poke safe right and and like you say even when we were Out there doing the radio, show their social distancing going on I. Think you guys done a great job of it out there Dan? Have you have you expected this house is gone compared to expectations. Let me rephrase that when we're sitting in March have would you have expected you to be in a worse than you are now or is it gone just about a a a as you had planned? well, I I wasn't sure what to expect to be honest tanner it was. I. Mean it was Kinda like just. throwing. spitballs at the wall and seeing what sticks just trying things. And just trying to just manage as best we can and. Trying to keep people excited about what we're doing but try and you know you know get people in and and also keep them safe and. But. Yeah. I mean I didn't really know what to expect to answer your question. So it was. It was just taking it day by day really and. And that. Was All we could do and just see what happens and so far it's been good I would say long and short of it is that I'm I'm happy with where we are now considering everything so that that's about all you can ask for at this point. Yeah exactly we're talking with Dan Dan Miller the owner of Mighty, River Brewing Company and Chad young sitting here nodding his head saying that yeah. It's all about adapting and changing and trying different things Dan. Is there anything that you did differently during this this weird time that you're going to keep and continue to implement going forward. Or? Are you ready just to get back to what you guys were doing beforehand get back in there and get rolling. I. Yeah I. Would say, yes to that. Everybody Back Down Yeah I. Think I think. So I mean you know we're we're having as best we can, and I know everyone is We're not the only ones and There's probably a few little things that maybe we picked up here and there just in our processes that. Terribly boring but no. But you know maybe we're going to tweak because of all this and that worked better for us but by and large. Yes. We're. We're ready to to get back to normal when whenever that is and hopefully it sooner rather than later. but yeah There were there were some things that that helped us. So but probably a lot of other breweries to right and that's what's been. So fascinating talking with restaurants Burris about what they're going through and what changes they're. They're making an adapting to but one of the things that I've heard consistently from breweries in restaurants like is that there's no. Customer pattern there's no no peaks and like you normally see, okay Friday nights, there are going to be a little bit busier. Of but it seems to be more random. Are you seeing that as well? Yes There are some consistencies, but there's also some randomness that just kind of takes you by surprise. You. Could you could have a a like a random Tuesday that's just your pack. And you didn't expect that and and then the next Tuesday it's it's a little slower but Yeah, it's been. It's been kind of tough to predict There are certain. Times of day and certain days that are a little easier to predict but. But yeah it's I I kind of find that. There'll be a directed to kind of be kind of just a little slow and then it's it's busy. So been caught off guard a couple of times but not not terribly It's a good thing you know and you everybody didn't they're just adapts and and we get through it in the trade. Busy, days when you can get them, that's for sure. Of course that definitely. Is Is it starting to starting to get more? You can predict a little bit or or what have you seen the trend wise because that's what I always wonder is that are we starting to see people get back those consumer patterns get back to what we expect or is it still all over the board? I I think I think things are starting to kind of get back to normal little bit in a way but it's but yeah. But there's still that randomness to it and you know when we do, we do things. That to try and get folks in get him interested in. You know we hope love our beer and and they wanna come for that. But we also want to try to entertain folks from time to time. So we'll. We'll do things to get people interested in getting our in our taproom. And learn about us and what we do and I think everybody is right now I think that's even more important during all this is to is to get. Folks interested in what you're doing and if you can. If you can put something out there that people are interested in something that's different. I think that helps. Dan Miller owner of Mighty River Brewing Company and we're we're talking a lot about the consumer focus right now. But it. Kind of led me into my next question here we're talking Pumpkin beers here. Tonight are you starting to see buying habits changed just a little better? He's starting to see different styles. Fly off the shelf a little bit faster. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. We're starting to shift out of that Kinda summer mode. into the fall mode and people I've had several calls. I've that I've feel myself along with my employees. People want margins and they want Pumpkin Beers right now. And can definitely attest to that because like I said earlier. when I first came on. Our pumpkin Ale it's we can barely keep stock especially in the cans people are coming in for to have on tap, they're also wanting to them. That's awesome I mean that's that's great news for you. Are you are you pumpkin? Are you let me phrase this in two different? Are you a Pumpkin fan period like Pumpkin pumpkin spice anything like that, and then are you a Pumpkin beer fan? I am I am not as big as you might think, but I do like them and I love Pumpkin Pie. So they have that okay and I think ours kind of tastes like Pumpkin Pie, which is really kind of cool and I know a lot do but it's it's It's a good one I mean, do I do I seek it out on a regular basis? I don't but I still like them and I know a lot of people love them so. I have a feeling. We're going to have a couple of leftover here tonight. So he just coming to come and see us and we'll be able to hook you up. Okay. Day Is there anything else that you want to get out there and let people know about what's coming up at Mighty River of course, you talked about your river fest cabinet up on Saturday what else is going on over at Mighty River. Oh. That's that's the big thing right now and. the river festive stay on restarted eleven on Saturday. It's it goes all day and You know we set it up. So we can. Have some tables outside and make sure we can accommodate as many people as possible. and. We're releasing our margin for that and we'll have the Pumpkin Ale for that and all our other beers to, and it looks like the weather's GonNa be nice. So that's pretty much the big thing going on at Mighty River right now tanner And our anniversary party coming up in mid. October. That's that was the other thing. But that's a ways off cervix. Well. CONGRATS on everything? You've got rocket over there. Always enjoy it when I find my way over there and appreciate your time tonight enjoy river fast on Saturday and we'll catch up with you real soon. Okay. Sounds. Great. Thanks, cruciate. You guys, thinks that is Dan Miller owner of Mighty River Brewing Company and Are you surprised to hear you you Kinda agreed I. Guess. So you're probably not surprised. Are you starting to see more requests for Marsden's and and those style appears now Marsden's for sure not as not as much pumpkin but we did. For a while we have the hey pumpkin. Hey Hey Pumpkin we had those in Kansas seemed to go pretty fast to me. You know. And that's not normal I guess. I mean. To me when we've had pumpkin beers in the past, it's been there's a week long where the people love them drink them and we'll go through it really fast, and that's usually the week before Halloween. If we have any left after Halloween there did it sits for a while so well, it'll be interesting to see I mean of course, right? It's. Nothing should make sense. But we'll see with these pumpkin beers I I'm I'm getting excited I, and I know that sounds weird because. I'm not a big PUMPKIN fan period I don't even like carving Pumpkins. I don't mind going to the PUMPKIN patch or whatever. But fall is is the weather is the best thing about fall other than that I'm not into the the the corn scary corn mazes or anything like that. We've had that discussion before but I'm excited about these pumpkins which we are going to get to. But first we need to get a break because on the other side. Graham Hurst would the brewer the head brewer McLellan's brewing company will be joining us. This is going to be a fun when I promise I. Promise You. You don't WanNa miss it. It's Brew Talk Radio on Northern Cod voice thirteen, ten KFI came. Dan Patrick the whole show in Colin cowherd are on northern Colorado's voice thirteen, ten k. f. k.. Six thirty eighth time. Looking back in brew talk. In the auto. Collusion Specialists Studios Chad gun owner of the tavern at. Saint. Michel Square. Pretty good interview there with Dan and. Talk to them. Off Guard there about what he said think a lot of a lot of what he was saying about what's going on in in the Baristas. By the restaurant industries, there's there's still not a real big pattern where. Nobody really knew what to expect throughout this whole thing. There's good days. There's bad days but. Raja's hanging on and hoping for the best. It seems like there's those collective. Effort days I won't I can't say that because FCC rules but those f. days or like let's go get drink and and let's go out and do that and there's really no rhyme or reason for any of that because a lot of people still don't know what day of the week or month it is. Obviously. Being. Still Right. You know why can't if you're working from home, take care of the bar, turn a Friday into a Tuesday and yeah, I mean it works it works I'm excited to talk to this next guest I. said it before I'll say it again probably one of the most entertaining guests we've ever had brew talk definitely one of the most knowledgeable. One of my favorites wanted Chad's favorites. It is Graham. Her would from McLellan's brewing company Graham you didn't forget about us. Did you. All right. Yeah. I see. I see how it is. You going. Great, how have you been doing man? How are you holding up? Oh. Well. you know getting dressed again is nice. That's you should always get dressed Graham yeah. Well, it was. My life was changed in some ways. Go nine year old kid monty who So we have to help him. But You know you kinda exactly work from home in your adverse. So I've been going in and One thing I do about Colorado INS is doesn't matter if it's apocalypse or not. They still want to have good call via. Amen. Yeah, there's no doubt about that and real quick. Are you helping with the schooling or are you leaving your wife? o-on trying to help. You might be regressing with my. Grandma. Mentioned one of the most knowledgeable guess we've had and. So you talked about McClellan obviously, it seems like it seems like just a lifetime ago that we were over there. How has McLellan's been holding up? How are you guys doing? Well I think I think like everyone we are. kind of you know roaming the ducks start off with We know we're taking this seriously because customers have is the. The R priority but at the same time, you know people are getting cabin fever the when it come. So like like you're you're trapping riverside, it can be a good day to day. But where you know like everyone else confer different revenue streams as well. So he got little canning languishes Nice. How is that Canine Line for you? Oh well, it was good fun friend of mine from London Does Amazing Artwork and obviously this is the perfect medium to show you the artwork. But yeah, I mean it's going really very well in fact, arming problem is trying to get cans to two. That's a great I mean that's a great problem to have though right I. mean if it's being that popular, that's that's a great problem. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's it's it's definitely going to anybody. Well, I'm I'm really grateful people drinking booze gives me something big. But Yeah. So I saw Graham that. On facebook I believe you shared it that you had some it some grain that had kinda got expired or was going expired. You're giving stuff away which leads me to my next question of how have you used your resources because I know shipping has been a little bit slow and it's been harder to get these different products. Have you been affected by that and how is it complicated the brewing process? To build a south supply chain I mean when it comes to all materials like mall in east hopes fortunately We've been very lucky the company's behind the I've been really great getting. The the the grainy spent you mentioned giving giving it was actually and you company came in and gave us a few samples tried them, and then I thought you know I want him sitting around just going away. So I give local. which was nice. But yeah, I mean it's GonNa be really struggled to get comes. which is I think it's the same for everyone. Everybody's struggled with that same thing for sure. Yeah there's no doubt about that Graham. So have you been have you been brewing more and not not in terms of quantity necessarily but have you been brewing more different beers or has it been slower? What does that been like as the head brewer over McLellan's You know it's I've been focusing a little bit on stuff going, but we have got a couple of new. we had to fund the Belgian Scottsdale June, the first of all bar Scottish people draw. Their beer over to Belgium in Belgium. So Much Scotland who's actually exporting beer to Belgium threats. So that was nice. One one of my favorites and it's being real. try pleaser especially since I needed for springtime is all summer. Still Black Kark. So it's kind of like a port and it was based on the beer that Guiquan greedy and Ed used to drink. She was the A DEACON BY DAY IN A. House rubber by nights influence Jecklin Height. So it's an dark the the know might make you make decisions and you like to drink. That's that's the best kind of beer. Oh. Yeah. That's great. That's great. When it's cold black car can that's just really been going very well You should see in a few puffs and for Collins. I believe it's GonNa be in the forge and they TAP handle undulations. Up this week coming up. For sure yeah. I in in Graham speaking with Graham Hurst with the the head brewer at McLellan's brewing company. In Fort Collins, Graham, your traditional your purist when it comes to the bureau say you're not into this the seltzer and the no alcohol beer and everything like that. Just, put it. You know moderately will say that but. has have, you been seeing those trends. Still I mean you said that that's been a popular one that's one that you normally wouldn't expect to be popular during the summer months. stood up yet but I I'm hoping that. Drinkers they're going to stop being seasonal support, skysufer, stuffing tanks but. Yeah. The our biggest seller was luckily, two straight check lacquer You know the pills and style over the summer appeared. Are Are. We happy and our portrait right behind it. weirdly enough. Black I have to as much titan summertimes. I didn't time because. People love her black in times. No That's the perfect fit for you and I know that's why I made Your guys is placed ch WanNa Chad's favorites over there because for that reason. I think. Thank you. All right. Since we're title about seasonal stuff, I do have to get your thoughts on this Graham we're trying Pumpkin beers here tonight. Are you are you a Pumpkin fan in beer or your Pumpkin fan overall? Well I love Pumpkins I think one of the greatest America's binds and Pumpkin Pie. Amazing the problem is that my kids will eat them all all. But yeah, I mean to be honest I Pumpkin. There's something big really drinking Scotland. In fact, we don't have pumpkins. We return instead of on consumer lanterns but when it came, I was played surprised by most of them I mean some of them are just massive sugar bones, some of the national bad. After see if there's other options at the bar pro. Something else but politically correct is always. Well you know. No trust me the FCC regulations appreciated but have you ever brewed one? Have you ever mess around with the different flavoring like Pumpkin? Pumpkin have used different types, adjuncts and my. I've done a blood orange beer in the past and I've done You know I I winter war uses from raisins So which is a really nice addition expense like Christmas game. So I'm I'm not opposed to adding to beer. I mean I mean Olympics are GonNa say they they've got lots of good reasons now. You know I I very strange much hatred out there when there's things there like pastry starts. Shall we say even more weird. Back to serial seems. Every year. Yeah. So. There I mean they definitely have their place and they're fun I. Think the only thing is the old brewers. Lynnfield is the day after Halloween when nobody wants to drink pumpkin beers anymore we were just talking about that. Jed Jed. It was lamenting that that he doesn't sell a single pumpkin beer after Halloween Halloween. Just doesn't happen and. You know. I just say why Christmas beers went winter or you just wouldn't settle for the winter otherwise. So yeah, But, yeah, this is big fun I. Think some people are have been means to them. There was. Seems last year they after the one before the board to a gold medal for concise there. Which ten of sending a message maybe you're gonNA love it over the talk with. Flavors. Yeah. And like you mentioned, you can definitely whether it's Pumpkin or or whatever flavoring it is. The first thing you notice is if it's artificially added in there or if it's if if it's more natural and we've talked about it, we prefer that more natural flavoring when it comes to these beers. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely I. Mean. The difference between having like you know like Pumpkin flavored rancher and actually happened Pumpkin. Yeah it's. You have to have that kind of national flavor to keep it true too far. I will say to people who are brewing us a if you're not to be or it has to bring some to the beer and just be there for novelty value. Just making personally. That I'm sure younger look at me like go through heads. Well, it's obviously working for Graham. Hurst with the head brewer at McLellan's brewing company So what's changed over McClellan I? Mean outside of the cove nineteen stuff what's changed over McClellan since we were last Graham I mean you know just like everyone? Weird. Kind. Of Training. At the same time, we are trying to move forward fair to. Current increase our productions accounting as well as I mentioned, which is Great Fun the Little Su Well. We were just trying to. Keep that normality to people. In the neighborhood somebody can come in and have a beer or two I think what? Happened is is just making some new beer is GONNA make A. New Session Pail tomorrow. And Yeah, we're we're just. Having fun? Now, you always do grand though I. I would be shocked if you weren't having a lot of fun. Well, we're excited about it. Any any other new releases that you WanNa talk about and we're definitely going to have to swing by and see and get one of those we have for me to. Well One thing that's coming up very soon. I'm only a few braves bruce away from my second under three of the clowns. So usually. By the brewers from Fort Collins Obviously That's not a good idea, and if I'm responsible for laying a every single bruin for call and. I can see pitchforks and. Did this time I think what we're going to do. We're going to make an imperial version of our we heavy kilter. We're going to. Get I I I'm GONNA try to limited release Cajun. Kirk Buffalo. So, you can lay down if you want. So yeah, we're GONNA in for eleven percent for ridiculous we have. Yeah I think that's a great thing. That's a great adjective for excited I am very excited. I know that Chad's driving out of there. That's all I know but great. How do you keep? Guy, what's ahead? We'll make sure we keep a few balls back to you guys I love it I. Love It. So Graham. How do you keep count I? Mean that's a lot of Gambhir's. Well I'm. To say, and it tells me batch number as. I keep Garin. Yeah so my memory's not that good. Anyway, we'll. See I don't even know if I can count seven hundred. So of the fact that you're there, that's a that's a really remarkable. Calculate it up done over ten. Through in my career so far. So So what is your old Graham? Well. Just been. Brewing. You're head of the class. Just. Graham. Catching up with you buddy hang in there. Great Work you guys are doing over McClellan were happy for you. If there's anything we can ever do please let us know and a good luck the rest of the way here in twenty twenty. Well. Thanks to the coast. Great chance you guys and. Let's keep it. So long next time I completely agree with you completely agree we'll come see you real soon. Thanks guys. Thanks that is her stood the head brewer. Seven I mean he hasn't been there and I don't have off the top of my head how long you've been there but he hasn't been credibly longtime. That's a guy that I mean he'll flat out put out some beers. Yeah, and obviously the people enjoy the beer I know I, really enjoyed the beer. They've got those cast styles, those old English, and Scottish. Styles. which are some of my favorites and I know Docs favorites do I don't think doc was here now when we actually got to go out, so we definitely need to take. Some time for sure and that's the thing too is that I'm a big atmosphere guy. If if I that determines, you know how is my drinking going to go is if the atmosphere is they don't have one, I'll go home whenever. But at the atmosphere I can get sucked in pretty pretty easily to a good time and and especially at twenty three years old and you will never have. A bad time over McLellan's brewing company. I mean the the music they're playing I mean it's just drinking music. It's it's it's incredible very, very great place over there and we will be getting over there really soon. Glad to hear that they are hanging in there and Hopefully, they can figure out that can shortage but that's I. Mean that's a good problem to have. I think that's a good problem to have you know and unfortunately i. Get. Figured out anytime soon because. Everybody's experiencing right right. All right. We need to catch a break. We'll come back on the other side wrap up our number one. This is brutal a northern photos voice thirteen, ten Kfi K.. Mornings with Kale weekdays six to nine and northern Colorado's voice thirteen, ten KFI. I've always missed the clock up you start hearing. This is the intro and the outer song. That's my guest that has been our first our. Great information out there jen talks with some old friends. No doubt about a Dan Miller featuring it down a little bit Ryan Geez. We got a couple of seconds to talk here come on now Dan Miller, the owner of Mighty River Brew Brewing, company as well as Graham Erstwhile the head brewer at mclovin brewing company. Thank you so much for that conversation. We've only got more coming up because coming up next is brandon Ban Berry and Kyle car bought quietly roots. This'll be a fun we'll be talking to them when we come back on the other side, don't go anywhere. This is Brew Talk North Dakota's voice thirteen ten Kfi am.

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Wandering Into the Fog with Abomination Brewing

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Wandering Into the Fog with Abomination Brewing

"This episode and every episode of the Beer Guy's radio show is brought to you by Ironmonger Bruin Visit Ironmongery taproom in Marietta Georgia or online at ironmonger brewing dot com. OPENED UP A tab. Grab a seat and pour a pint. It's time for the beer guy's radio show or free beer brewery dedicated to the art, science and enjoyment of craft beer. What would be a? We got now here. Are Your hosts Tim Dennis and Brian Hewitt and welcome to the beer guy's radio show broadcasting from the beer guy's radio studios. In Marietta, Georgia, and this week we're talking with bomb nation brewing. I'm Tim Denison with me as always as my good friend and Co host Brian. Hey Tim so joining us today we have Joe. Feldman and Josh Arnaud Owners and Brewers for abomination brewing. We're GONNA. Talk about the Gypsy brew. Life the social distancing collaborate. They're working on future plans, probably hot dogs and metal you deal. Yeah and more thanks Joe and Josh thanks for joining US thanks for having US guys. Yeah, absolutely, you guys. We were talking a little bit off air here. Brian used a term that I think is no longer a cool for a gypsy bruins. That's. Today. Learn Brian. It's actually no mad. Nomad or nomadic is actually preferred term now. Is that correct? Yes, we were calling if that thing for years, and just after a few people corrected us, and we realized our ways of we started. Changed over to the nomadic, which I think. Cooler term anyway, so this is a good move. It does sound pretty cool. Absolutely. We're nomadic radio for Awhile Brian. We weren't. Around a little bit so guys, how are things going up there? We know we're trying to get back to some normalcy. Are you a kind of getting back in the groove? A little bit yet? Life is life is finally starting to get back to normal. Things are starting to open up. I can go out and get something which is nice. I mean I. Don't know how it was for most people, but we have like three months. Lockdown being so close to New York City and just big cities in general new Haven Connecticut like. We got hit hard. It's nice to get out of the house. Well see, we're in. Georgia, we actually mentioned this last week. Our governor, who's just like you know what? Let's just rock. Let's just open everything do. Everything will be fine, but close for half a day. We'll get over that's. How is that Ben since you guys reopened up? Have you had a resurgence like they're talking about? Or is this the way to go? I need to look at the data. Verify I think there was a little uptick, but it's kind of been up and down I. Think hasn't Brian. It's like we did see like a crazy spike i. Yeah I haven't been watching it. I'll be honest with you have not been watching those numbers, but to be honest. A lot of our business owners actually just self policed it. You know so the governor k. you can open up like you know what we're not. We're not comfortable with this now, so we started seeing people do stuff like they. They'd open their patio and do some social distancing there, and they've just been kinda slowly rolling back into a strong adherence to the guidelines of mass, wearing cleaning social, distancing marking off spots where you can't sit to make sure people are spread around it I think even required to the just. They'll being safe safe, you know. Yeah out here in Connecticut Right now It's only outdoor day which I started about a week ago, so everybody's making the makeshift patios turning parking lots. Places out it's Hilarious, closed down streets and descended tables out there so it was Kinda doing what they have to do and give people some sort of sense of normalcy. We actually went out earlier today for lunch and got veers, lunch and of felt weird being out there. Yeah, right need so! Yeah three Brian and I went out and we grab some actually really good barbecue. This weekend had some barbecue and we're like you know what this is nice, and it feels a little weird after so long to set down because our restaurants are open inside as well so we sat down and had some ribs, brisket and are. Not cheap anymore. It's not a lot. Employers brisket surcharges now because of the shortages, so really Yes? I heard that about Bacon to actually went to Grad. Bake into a burger the other day and it was like a four dollar upcharges. In the words of Joe Exotic. We are never going to financially recover from. Despite the environment's best efforts, we had a pretty good weekend we did. We went out and got to got to try. newbury drowned valley up in Carterville Georgia. They've been by invited us out for a while. We got to go up there. MEET TO DEAN, J.! The owners we appreciate their hospitality Tasty Beers there, too. They had the fan of that coffee blonde, a blonde. That was very good against the nice tasting room. Nice Patio. You know packed out there so germs. We pop down to our friend. Scott's place. Bart Hickory brewery had to go down there and check out. He had what he was calling his imaginary. Imaginary Anniversary! Party and he said he's really. GonNa do the Big One. This should have been his eighth anniversary because everything going on, he did a few can releases and stuff, and he said probably for eight and a half he's going to have a big blowout party, but Brian Those Berliners were on point. Are they were? Pedal sours as he said exactly. What was your favorite flavor? Was it a carrot, Berliner or the blue? Berlin, who boy? That's tough, I might go with the blue, but that carrot was surprisingly good for being a carrot. Berliner was really crazy, right? Yeah, that was good straight carrot like carrot cake. Now. That's that's what we thought was a straight carrot, and it had a little bit of sweetness to it. I actually tried it. The brewery owners a good friend, and I tried it really just to give him a hard time about making steely beer and I. Try not mark. This is actually pretty tasty. Speaking of Silly Beers, though I had something called skits, which was their digits, blood, red orange APA right with skittles added to it, and it was a it was a very very potent beer. Was that was yeah? I thought it was all right. I thought it was boozy. It was and you know what speaking a potent beers. Brian we had a little fun. We ran a our instagram this week, asking people. What did they consider a strong beer, so we're going to see her Josh Joe. What if you had to pick a number? Here's our tears. We'll see what you think. I put greater than five percent greater than a percent greater, ten percent or greater than twelve percent. So which of those would you guys think? Most people said was the break point for a strong beer. I mean that number is so skewed for everything we. Don't triples. I feel like everybody wants big. It makes that. Yes okay, fair enough. You know what I actually had a a friend. Message me and say that he's like he's like twelve percent. That's where most of my beer start the. Bare for me here, yeah, our session. Beers are honestly eight point six percent. You know I think that's. The bottom of where we're. From US Your Brand Bruin. Wise I would say twelve percent higher, but for me personally I would say ten percent. Okay all right. Yeah, I'd probably be more on board with that I. Mean we had a guy who used to come to share with us? Who would open up? The everything was fifteen percent Yeah Arab. Minimum everything and it was. Filed, homered is back in the day I. Know You guys used to be humber I'm sure you're familiar with that. Yeah absolutely how strong can you brew it sure off well? According to our instagram followers, two percent said greater than five percent is already strong for them so I wonder if maybe they were an English beer during. Those bidders that's right. Exactly. Five percent were getting crazy here. Over eight percent, forty one percent of respondents said over eight percent gets into what they say. Strong forty three percent, said greater than ten percent, so that's eighty four percent between eight and ten mark there, and then we have twelve percent, said greater than twelve percent. So Brian, what about you? What's the break for strong for you? I really started thinking strong around the ten to twelve percent. Probably probably yeah, probably ten percent I, think. This is a little potent double digits. Digits! When it falls between eight and ten I start taking note of the ABC and if you're breaking ten or twelve, I mean you know. I love my black Tuesday. Eight percent with dip or something like that I'm like all right all right all right all right. Good stuff shirt off all right Tim I. Think it is time for us to get into the beers the week. Crack open a cold wine. It's the trucking tap beer at the week. Craft Beer and food trucks in downtown Woodstock truck and TAP DOT COM. We'll Ryan as always. We have a great selection of Beers man, we. We did a little pre game in here one from our friends at three taverns and good word brewing words, a double, Ip have one courtesy of terrapin brewing, a strawberry dream sickle beer, so we got into that we're also going to drink a dissolved thirty-six stairs to Rankin trimtabs. PEANUT BUTTER COFFEE IN ATLANTA. Bruin Bake. Too So Brian were sort on time, but can you squeezes in a news story here I'm going to do just one and I think it's intriguing that the way people are dealing with the pandemic one resourceful brewery owner in Seattle moved into his burri actually moved his entire stuff into his bro to save costs and keep the brewery afloat. People often say they live at the brewery. Brewery but John Mardi of lower case brewing in Seattle actually does. His new residence is a ninety nine square foot room above the bruins boiler. Apparently, he's got a diy bunk bed, and he's sweet rug ties the room together, so he's all hooked up. He's ready to rock sounds good. We need to take a break. We'll be right back very soon with more from abomination brute. Brian and Tim the beer guys. If you're like us, no launcher dinners complete without a partner to of craft beer, which is why truck and tap in downtown Woodstock Alfred and Duluth are always on our list Tim. Why do they call it? Truck and TAP will. The top part is easy Brian. They've got eighteen of them as for the truck part. That's where it gets interesting truck and tap features your favorite Atlanta area food trucks. You're getting a different menu every day, truck and tap in downtown, woodstock, Alfa, Reta and Duluth. 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Thanks again for joining us. We really appreciate it good to have you on here with us this evening dead. Absolutely Abomination Bruin we've. We've established shit. You are a nomadic bureau. We talk a little bit about. The Corona virus and how that's impacted, things has been nomadic brewer. Has that impacted your ability to brew through all of this? I mean it definitely took a pretty big debt when this all I started. Just because nobody you know I mean as the nomadic brewery were sending all this year out to bottle shafts bars restaurants. Kegs where a huge portion of our business, so those are closing down, definitely took a big chunk, and there is some uncertainty of where we're going to go. And we kind of just went in stride and changed over to cannon package and everything and you know going to what was selling and. Needed which was packing stores liquor stores to sell directly above twelve percents Brew Pub Facility Opinion Connecticut so at least had that. We were still able to still sell stuff out the door. It was definitely weird, but we just kind of had a pivot and take a different turn and move pretty much to all cans. Yeah, that's good that you are able to sell from your partners. Brew pub there because that's a actually talked to another nomadic brewers. Just this weekend. We saw him at burnt. Hickory Brian and You know he was saying man. This is tough. You know he didn't have anywhere to to really ask sell his product so. When all you can do is taps in that no festivals to get the word out there which. We. Have you know I think eleven? Festival set up for the summer, too, and that was another thing. Trying to figure out where that mirror is gonNA sell yet. We're still like a a super young brand. We've only been on the scene for maybe a year in eight months now, so I we usually hit the festival seen pretty hard and really try and pump our name out there despite our distribution networks. So you know we want as much people be able to get us as we can as they. They can and it just sucks that. This is a you know. Everything that canceled stuff in November got cancelled. You know righty. New NFL is nice for us you. We don't have a tasting room taproom so for us being able to go out there and having direct contact with our people actually drank in our beer was huge for us. Getting the you know onsite. Just reactions of how everything is. Of Our beers, and now we don't have that anymore. So you've brought a brewery and taproom and I noticed I read somewhere that you guys were on the lookout to leaving the nomadic behind and going for a taproom at some point in the future. Is that still on the cards? At this point? I imagine it's probably old at least temporarily. We surprisingly didn't take too big of a hit during all of this corona stuff. Stuff and since Connecticut figured out everything that they were doing in bars and restaurants opening back up. We have seen such a huge influx in our beer. I mean we normally will district sixty barrels across thirty two states, and we were putting out the barrel batches of beer in the entire state of Connecticut was buying them from us so I mean we've got them to thank for that. Really help us get through the corona virus. Brewers right now is that everybody wants as much alcohol as they can get yes. So. It's a one benefit. They're a story. Is that the Memorial Day weekend a billion dollars in off premise beer sales. Like needs beerman slightly behind last year's for July huge, you say. Yeah, you know. We sought some creative things from some of these some of these breweries with the social distancing things like virtual beer tasting virtual bear beer dinners. Did you guys capitalize on any any of that type of stuff me? Why me rendered up actually setting up a multi burri collaboration, which kind of goes into with we had all these beer festivals, and traveling and collapsed set up over the summer that with Burris, that like good word like we talked off air about that were planning on brewing with these guys, and unfortunately, couldn't so we re like a bunch of our friends? Just Hey, let's if we can't get there. Actually Brew Beer Together. Let's Kinda Bruce something virtually and come up with the cool weather collab- without actually being together, so yeah, everybody was down for two. So that's your social distancing collab- correct yet, and that's I guess just a sharing ideas. Who's WHO's GonNa? Brew it or is everybody Bruin. or Coombe across Connecticut New York Pennsylvania. Maryland New Jersey Seattle was at four or five states. Fourteen different breweries. Eker Israeli Tunda COUPLA guys kinsmen. I'M GONNA. Forget everybody feel like a jerk now that I'm naming names. Link in the notes. And much much more. Yeah so we just kind of reach out to like. All of our friends are just kind of said. Hey, man like we can't burr together right now. This Bor something together. Though so we came up with the our work with are awesome, artists Sam Heimer and so actually used. The same labels gave them a same base west. And then we gave them five different hops to kind of pick and choose from told everybody kinda choose three, so everybody's version of variant was completely different and go from there. You mentioned the artists Sam Heimer and we were looking at up. Years, ago Brian is still a big cigar guy and I used to be a big cigar guy, and there's a I. Don't know if you guys are into cigars, but there's a cigar brand called Tattoo. They do what they call their monster series each year, and they do interesting packaging like the box and the labeling. That'll be the. The frank, you know different things like that Siri. How we yes very halloween, but he did a contest one time where we put what they called Spooky, tickets thirteen spooky tickets in there were six hundred sixty six boxes. Thirteen tickets and I'm GONNA. Tell this together soon. I'm not rambling for no point. So, but the artist spooky tickets with Sam Hammer so sam, accent. For the Tattoo I and I did not find one of the tickets in the box, but actually purchased one of the overruns from Sam and had the the box and the artwork in the ticket, and all that gone together, so song familiar was Stam's work. I Muslim we yet, so we actually did a beer festival with them, and or I'm sorry. We did a beer festival. He actually did the art for the festival. We Jalen I became obsessed with his artwork and I always out to I'm not thinking that I was ever going to actually get a response and turns out is the nicest calls dude on the planet, and was like an and I would love to do a beer label, and just from them like him, and I like it's Kinda crazy. He'll come to me with ideas I'll just say some weird random. To him and it'll just appear the next day. He'll send me a J. peg of some crazy stuff. He's working on like how that even come out of your head? It's wild right? Yeah, does he? Do all of your your art for your cans or do you have a bunch of artists? Really couple of artists? I actually do all the labels for the fog, so that one's mine, but most of the really detailed wild stuff is Sam Heimer. We also use. Earl casts and. Another philly based Guy Fenzy, so we were started as not really wanted to yet focused on using local artists and getting their name out there and. Just really featuring everybody making sure that our cans look as beautiful as the beer inside of taste is pretty cold. There's a whole that's a whole different topic. Beer Art, and actually saw Sam did an interview I I I'm going to mess up the name of this podcast, but I think it's called like the sixteen ounce Palette or the twelve ounce canvas. Okay, so yeah, he didn't interview on there, but it's interesting can. Art is a pretty cool stuff? Man It actually. On that podcast, which was pretty cool. You're listening to the beer guy's radio show. We do need to take a break, but we'll be back very soon to talk more with abomination barely. Are you really doing facebook? Right I'm Aaron Williams. And here's your marketing minute. FACEBOOK is a fantastic place to communicate with your fans. I'm sure you're using it to let people know about your specials new beers events in other words. You're talking at your audience instead. Try talking with your audience. Start Conversations, ask questions and show your fans. What's on behind the scenes? You'll make more of them. I promise for more marketing. Tips and tricks had to crafted Dash Consulting. Dot Com slash radio. Radio as a brewery owner or tapper manager. 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You mentioned that you had a little more info that you wanted to share about the possibility of the tasting room. What do we need to know? So we are planning non-opening tasting room on. Fortunately I can't give much more information than that at this point in time, but we are planning their opening up a tasting room in Connecticut. Maybe, we can release something more by the end of the year. Okay, we'll stay tuned. We'll keep an eye on things to see what's going down, so you guys were based in Pennsylvania, or are you all fully moved over to Connecticut at this point, so we actually this whole thing started about what five six years ago we were looking for an actual physical location of Pennsylvania. We're trying to open up tasting room brewpubs facility. we had a spot in the Lehigh Valley Allentown. Meanwhile we were just Kinda doing beer festivals doing collaborations pretty much anywhere. We could get our buren. That's what we're doing. meanwhile trying to open up the station room, we ended up fighting for. About two years with zone in economic development just don't with a ton of BS. There yeah. That own to just say all right. What do we do now? How do we make beer? How did we get beer out in the market like we just dealt with this for three four years, and now it's just become now nothing so we ended up coming into contact with. In Connecticut. And started just collaborating and Bruin a ton of beer with them. They were contract brewing us out of Boston New Jersey Pennsylvania Connecticut and just trying to get as much tax as we possibly could at that time, and then it's kind of all come full circle back to US opening up an actual. They now if you're putting your dream, list together and I'm sure you've done this already. what will the What will the tasting room? What kind of experience can we expect? The abomination tasting room? The I ne- We are planning on making what we WANNA. Make you know were super to loggers. sours barrel aged stuff. We do a lot of our i. don't even WanNa call. Him Clean Beers. Maybe just ales is a better better term for like our ales are sours like are. Are Crazy adjunct. Send are are heavily fruited sour. We saved them for twelve percent I'm thinking you know our spots going to be a little more refined. We'll get a little crazy here and there you know, but for the most part we're looking to do in the stuff that like you're not gonna be able to see through our distribution network and getting crazy in terms of rouch beer as opposed to You know crazy, fruited sour. The rash beer I worst beer in the world. What's going to ask? I had a question about asking about that. Because with your theme, only health and save us. The thing is one of your beers. I'm like this should have been smoked malt that there should have been a little burns. You need a brimstone. That's what should smokes peppers and stuff right data. Yeah. This seems like a good time to ask. Let's talk about these beers in the bruce there. The name of bombing nation brewing were the name come from. Does that refer to the Brewers, the brewery, the beers and take some into. No, no, that one's all you. Oh, well, so we originally just kind of started. Just wow, what could we firm end just like? How Weird can we possibly get? And it all went against the German purity law of just you know. Water Grain hops like now lives that to stop there. We fermat anything. People been firm any anything for hundreds of years. Why is it just this? This is what beer as so we said. We started brewing now. Water rice hours, and you know pretty much anything you know really started as like kind of. The Hawk Lake the aisles of grocery stores, and finding some like really cool Asian markets, and just things that aren't readily available to you and finding things like hey, man, that'd be really cool and a sour or high ta or a stout. Nobody's doing this right now, so. How weird can we get. You know it's funny that you say that you mentioned a water ice our. I was just telling Brian about water isis this weekend. He'd never heard of it. Well Rita's was actually the one I mentioned. Rita's came in here. Maybe Oh, gosh, maybe a decade ago now very nice. But they opened up several locations and then I think they're gone now. They're totally. Really came in, and they did there. Yeah I've never known a life without water ice. Yeah. And like I've never had to worry about it, but like I couldn't imagine not having like. A shaved ice confection, but it's. The term water, Isis confusing if you have no idea what it is. Yeah, it really clear water become does. Your advantage. But. That's Rita's did the frozen custard which I'm a big Fan August. And they would even do Brian a custard and ice together, which is just? It's insane Oh. That's fun I think it's called the July Lada. It's unbelievable the Girardi I think. A Lot. Okay, and then you re shakes yet. You can get them blended into shakes all right. Os and dude It's so good, let's. Do a commercial Farida, so. Money? Arenas. Company you know where to find. So, how close is this to the old snoopy snow cone maker because? Yeah that's it pretty. Yeah. That's pretty similar. Bored with snoopy was back in the day. MEISTER SYRUP WITH IT. Because that's now, we're talking. A. Little while Meister? Some great you know Brian would actually if you ever need another brewer and Brian looks to enter the the beer industry you know in the production side. Your philosophy seems to fit with him. But everything in a beer. He'll world. He can't say the name of the beer on air, but he had an idea for a seafood Goza. Listen to. PODCASTS! Or let's do it. How do I get you? Let's see there you go. Let's do it. Man, see now. You guys gotta come down here and we'll hang in the studio. We gotta come up there and Brewer Collaboration More than five hundred let's do. All the Seafood Weird Goza you WanNa, do where we're on board. You Ready Brian I'm. To head out now. We're going. We got the northeast. It's shellfish like let's go. Shown off man. Goes at, and it will actually Kinda you're like the old school Bryn liners and we'll just shave some. Juicy. Water ice on the brim of it. It'll be at home modern tate. My mouth is watering guys but now. My mouth is full of ice. No it's unsafe really unsafe getting Brian. I like them. You're talk to the wrong guys. We're some weird like yeah, let's do it well. That's Brian I. kind of balanced each other out when it came to because like we like we literally brewed one Ativan ESP and Brian. Let's make a fried, tomatoes onion and bean dip style. On Ryan whole. Yeah. That's a little. We did do a sun dried tomato and basil. Cezanne did it was good I. Liked had lot out. It was polarizing. People didn't care for it as much yeah, it'd be very interested to try that if you have any still, but we did it. Man I don't know I don't think I have been thinking you drink at all. I would have to look real hard, but I think it's gone now, okay? You know we're GONNA. Take a quick break. We're going to be back soon and I think to continue the culinary topics. We're GONNA come back. We're going to talk about hot dogs. Bri- Yeah? You're listening to bear guys show. We'll be back very soon with more from abomination. Brewing. Have, you ever thought about owning your own jury, but don't know what it takes to get. One built weird storytime construction, and we build breweries were door to the most experience and hands on contractors when it comes to building new breweries and taverns or expanding existing juries, we offer full buildouts remodeling in additions as low as consulting and construction management. Give us a call at seven, seven, zero, seven, three, three, four, three, four three storytime construction. We build breweries. 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We will get to that, but there was something else that I thought about here that I I to talk about stoute's, and I wanNA talk about T. h. i.. C. C. fix outs, boy. that as a thick boys because we're his, that's right to seize ones e sweat. But. We talked to a lot of brewers that these long when we say long boils used to be I mean at one time, a four hour would have been a long. Eight hours would've been insane. We have talked to at least a couple breweries. Twenty four hour boils on some of these beers. We have not done a twenty four hour. Boil so all right for us. You jump in on that whole conversation, but our latest release midnight snack to which was like a super fudgy birthday cake dessert chocolate. Just fudge in your. House man! Yes, go on. A man, yeah, we boiled that or five hours, and that's hot at boy was that is drinking like a like hot oil I remember drinking like that Dogfish head Miles Davis. Right remember thinking that was a thick, thick thick staff. Just put it just a shame and. I LIKED THEM UTAH. Like like out stout stick, keep talking dirty, and then you know. So we have orpheus brewing here makes them super thick to the point. You get something that thick. It's really hard to get carbonation into it. So you get some of you, open up and there may be a little. You know how sometimes you'll just get some slight bubbling around the ring of the glass, and that's about it. I mean for the most part they're almost still and I saw some people complain one time about their like there's no carbonation. Here I'm like dude. You're drinking thirty. Wait here. Not a lot of Carbonari. Transit it's. Thirty exactly like that. But you guys actually threw an idea out to us that I. Think is probably the most glorious thing I ever heard. So can you explain though boils Galera? To us. This is on you. So Boylston Leira. You get that twenty four hour. Boil Gallon right so. You're going. You're going. You're going. Gone a little too thick boy. At a little more of that that mashed into it! That's it man. Put a little bit more work. You'll love it all. Just keep pouring it in every so often. What these guys are doing at this point, though there's no way just ride now a twenty four hour. especially, it's bigger like you guys are home burs. Brewed there's no way if you sat there road out twenty four hour world that would be syrup. CARAMELIZED Sara yes. I know the loss that we get in an hour or two. You know two hours I. Was Pretty significant. I mean I can't imagine even if your start with like a you know twenty thirty barrel batch, or what have you twenty four hour boil i. do the math on that I'm curious to see what the math would say. Boil off on something like that. Four. Do you think you'd end up with on a twenty barrel twelve barrels off of a twenty four hour world? Yeah, let's. Hours on their say less than that I would say like six area I'm down. I'm thinking like. Like. I haven't worked on a great many amount of systems, but I've worked on a few systems, and there's no way if you were to boil for full twenty four hours like a goal. There's no way you're walking out of there. If you're on a twenty barrel system, there's no way you're walking out of there. With more than eight barrels, I think tomorrow. System raw slow. Say Yes, slow, Silverman! Let's look I'm just thinking like the restrictions on homebrew is such that you start off with like fifteen barrels. You boil it down to five gallons. You stay within your stay there. Have the is the thickest styles you slice limits rice of. You guys. We did want to say Josh when you sent your. Info back to do the show we asked to what topics you'd like to discuss. I see the passion in your heart for hotdogs. Is that correct? Oh Rally? Okay okay, so so tell us about what is. What's the perfect hotdog? Do Chicago dog all the. It's every single note. Dude, first of all poppy seed, Bun is choice are eight, right? Hot Pepper on there, so you have this by? Sweet relish also have the mustard and the ketchup. And a pickle spear, sweet relish and pickle spear to balance out that sweet relish okay, the tomato is great for that like to add to that acidity, but it kind of waters out the mustard a little bit I wanNA. There so right now. Still we know man, this word at already sold our area Pennsylvania doll. Dawson's Manning. Unbelievable! They give you a nice Nice, just succulent, beautiful Taylor role from Martin's obvious, because it's Pennsylvania, get that boy nice him buttered. Put that on flats off first second Heat up your delicious collectible, forty three cents hotdog out of Nice Martin's FAC. PLOP bad bad barbera Nabavi finished out some yellow mustard. Some diced onions catch up cheese boom done crazy man. You know when I lived in new. York some one of the side. We had up there that you don't see down here. I guess a regional dish or sought potatoes. Do you guys know of salt potatoes? That actually now, okay I. Think I just saw something on the food network about salt potatoes but I. For me. Remember what they are miskel. What they do is they take like a bag of new potatoes, small red potatoes. Oil and they seriously boil these things in like five pounds assault, so it's like a whole bag of salt, the new potatoes and then you serve them in a little dish in melted drawn butter. So that was fantastic. Yeah Mansoura Little. Hot, dog stands here you go basically had your choice of reds or whites. You'd get your hot dog. They throw it on. You. Go around now I'm all about Chicago Dog, but I'm also down. Would just some onions, Sauerkraut and mustard? Impossible yeah, but I'm Beth memories of eating. Hot dogs were going to like phillies games in Philly and Indian hotdogs dollar dog days. They're literally dollar dogs. You got a nice. Martin Roll like potato rolls near not eating better hug on a better role than that and just hot dog mustard. That was all they gave you and I'm telling you right now. There is not a hot dog that tastes better in that moment. Then a hotdog, some onions on a Martin potato role with some yellow mustard and minority right now that's objective. Were most controversial part of the show so far. Something Brian Ua dig in Philly the soft pretzels that they've got oh. Yes. Philly. And they're they're different, Brian. They're not like anywhere else, so you gotTA. They have street vendors. They sell them at the airport. Anytime mauled boss used to be or Mal boss was from Philly, but every time he come. He go up there. He'd come back with like a huge pack of these philly soft pretzels and We always look forward to his master road up there take a little time ago. It's some tourism as a bank. Thank growing up around there. They were just taking like Pretzel factories guys. We've had a lot of hot hot dog. Talk here and we haven't story last week. Where did a brew hotdog if you ever brewed with hot dogs? No No. No hot all McRae's ingredients. No hotdog beers yet though. Yet. Turns out and meets meets effect thing Rival. Aren't super into it, so there's a Vegan. It is not known. So you're saying. We're not gonNA. Do it, but we are. Me Me. Good meat and beer. Good me in beer is. No Islam glass in this sphere, but there is hot dos. They clarify with. There's actually A. Collaboration with sheets I think it is the. Hot Dog water rich to mania homebrew in years ago, seemed like an awesome idea It doesn't necessarily turn out to be an awesome beer, but see that's I'm willing to try any of the crazy stuff. We'll see how it works out. We will yeah, so guys. We're about out of time. If people want to keep up with what's happening with the bomb nation, where should they go? Check US OUT ON INSTAGRAM? We post on that pretty much. As soon as we have a release anything new. That's coming on also our website, abomination, brewing, company DOT COM and facebook. That'll do it. 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April 29, 2020 IPAs HR 1

"It's been a long week. Grab a beer and sit back. Here's Tanner Chad in the Brood. Doctor Himself Dr. Michael Moser Wins Evening Northern Colorado. Welcome in to brew Tonk. I'm tanner swint on this fine Wednesday evening and guys the more that I think about it. That that open where it says. It's been a long week. Made changes true right but we can break down and we can have a beer. Enjoy some Some conversations here tonight on Brew Talk. Joining me as always Chad. Young owner of the tavern at Saint Michel Square and Dr Michael. Mosier the head guy over. Unc Bring Laboratory Sciences. And if you ever want me to change that you're going to have to tell me that but until we're okay until further notice you're the head. Guy Felix during the production workforce here at the K of K A studios walk into the program. We've got a fun one here for you tonight. We are going to die back in to the blind taste tests. We haven't done one of these and while I I'm intrigued by this we're going with Ip as in looking around there's some there's quite a few differing as but so I'm confident in how this is GonNa go but it'll probably just knock me back down to reality. I felt pretty confident. The last time we well those were beers that were very similar to each other here. We might be talking about completely different beers and then try and to identify which one is which without a separate taster of them. Yeah so challenge. If we're wrong that we're gonNA look even dumber. I feel like there's a. There's a couple that might be pretty obvious. Yeah but I don't know I don't know we'll do that here. Coming up Schon Johnson who's been MIA for the last couple of weeks. We'll be joining US via phone to go over some beer news so excited to have him back on the program And then of course. We'll get to beer thirty a little bit later on. We're keeping things very simple for Chad with the the beer. Dinner Pairings to really focused group of very focus group as how will dive into a brief history of I nine weeks? There's there's a little over it again. I think there's a lot of different styles even though it's nine weeks that's to over nine. I think so is almost two or two months. Yeah milkshake Yeah I'm not even GONNA try and go all but we went through as extensively. That seems like so long ago that we were doing that. But we're just kind of open it up and said hey with everything that's going on. Let's make it easy on ourselves. Let's go IPA's and that's where we're going and we've got some good ones here. Got a couple of local ones couple of COLORADO AND COLORADO TO THEIR CHANGES COLORADO. So we got three of the four. Colorado in Colorado Beers and then a California beer as well That we're going to dive into but Colin will set it up for us as he does as he did last time as well and and we'll just go through and see and see how it goes. I suppose I don't know. I think that I am more confident in this but probably not going be the case is it. I don't know I like to say so. Well we're GONNA find out I'm excited about it again here on talk. Want to say thanks to the last week. Here are last week with her tremendous Brouhaha. Stop Mighty River Brewing Company as things evolve and continue to change We seem to be inching ever so close to things starting to open up a little bit and when that's all said and done. I'm sure we're GONNA find our way out there to mighty river when this is ready because we I mean it's got a great view for dog and great couple of as for Chad and heck. I'm just along for the ride so I I'm excited. I'm sure we'll find a way back out there. But it's been fun talking with Dan the owner and kind of figuring out. What inspired him to go. Do this if you get a chance. They've got their four-pack going on right. Now you can still get them either for delivery or pick up And they've got pretty good deals on them. Some very solid beards as we've had from their co yes very sure those Ip as are going to be perfect to is. The weather's starting to guys. I tell you what for the first time since all of this has happened. I'm going to socially distance Gulf on on Friday up at the country club. They're open. They're taking precautions with everything and and so I'm going to be able to go out there and I might have to just one of those sports though that you can kind of be six feet apart and you're still playing the way I got off. I mean there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it that and that's the thing is like I know that there are a lot of people there was heat from it right off the Bat The more people go out there and see exactly I mean. No-one said having to touch the flagpoles. They've got things that you can put your raise the flag out and the ball will either if they will allow it to go in some country clubs putting a cover over the whole so if it just rolls over in your good and so there's a lot of those just couple precautions going on but It's it's a nice out there again. I think people are starting to age to be able to get back out and do some of those things I think. Open some of the courses all of the Denver Golf and they're still on the state home. Excuse me the stay. At Home. Order so But I'm excited about that and it's GonNa be exciting to 'cause then they supposed to be eighty four. I know a couple of eighties or coming. It's going to be eighty seven tomorrow. I believe who don't push nine. That's all it's too hot too fast. But April shouldn't be ninety seven or eight hundred ninety degrees. No not at all document. You mentioned you might be doing some brewing this weekend. That's right we've got the big brew Coming up which is a national event sponsored by the American Home Brewers Association. I think this is their twenty third annual event. It's always the first Saturday in May and this year they're going to do it. Virtually so I'm pretty excited about doing that. Bruce and beer and take some pictures and share it with the rest of the country. Absolutely end we're actually having some of that beer that you brewed a couple of weeks ago. This is about a month old now. So it's Aged since the it was born and I think it's tastes pretty good. Yeah for sure. He's a beer thirty time for. Obviously you depending on. How bad doxa made me mad today? Great Beer it's A. It's a couple week ago or so new and it was a great thing is great now. The flavors are changing ages. It's a porter for those of you who are wondering what it is it opened with that has a little bit of molasses see flavors and stuff and there is no molasses added to it a little coffee back notes and things like that. It's Pretty. You're pretty proud of this when when it came out. I was when it first came out. It's mellow to just a little bit so it's not as exciting as it was when it was just out of the secondary mentor. But it's still quite tasty. I think now enjoying it for sure. All right let's take a break. We'll get an early one here when we come back on the other side. We'll talk with Sean Johnson. He'll work through some of these news stories and then we'll get to our blind taste test coming up just a little bit later on. You're listening to talk radio right here on thirteen ten. Kfi Am best UNC. Bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten K. K. Talk Talk Hope everyone out. There is having a great start to their week. Hopefully everyone stay healthy and happy out there and Joining us here tonight and going to work our way through my as just real basic. Let's let's find our way through them and and Do Taste test here that We're taking bets on right now. Who's GonNa come out of this going? Four for four. But we'll dive into that a little bit later on. I joining us. Up on the hotline. The man the myth the legend. I guess he hasn't been able to get out of the the back alley out here behind. The station is Shawn Johnson. Sean takes finally joining us in a here. You've got some news to go over. Yeah I got a couple of things that have happened over the past couple of weeks. Let's let's dive into a man So just some kind of quick stuff I saw on facebook today actually elevated fermentation are selling hop resumes To sell or to grow your own hops at home Elevated from occasions being the homebrew shop. That's out in Loveland You know in hops are really really beautiful plants if you're looking for something that they grow real tall and They grow up along walls. You have to help them out a little bit but they they grow real nice big leaves and really pretty Plans to have on the back side of your house. If you're into that whole gardening side of things do you have some planet in your garden now? My whole backyard needs a needs an entire makeover. That's my whole summer project this year. Actually Yeah so. There's not a whole lot of plants that you can get out there that you could use in the brewing of beer afterwards to well. That's definitely true you know and They have some they have some Relaxing properties too. So you can take your hot flowers and you can put them in a pillow and sleep on him and what they used to do back in the you know fifteen sixteen hundred to help people sleep as they give them a colorful hops that's-that's some history of beer right there there. That's definitely true though he's still shown yes. Sorry I'm GonNa Live GonNa live talk talk for a second. But he's being acquired today. I kind of him problem not a problem so elevated fermentation selling those resumes to grow at your place You've also got something coming from drydock. Drydock unveiled a brand refresh. So if you're looking for dry dock at the liquor stores there cans and everything are all going to look different They went with a little bit more of a i. The best way I can describe as like modern rustic. It's it's it's interesting You know you can find it all over the the Internet facebook. You know Google all that stuff but it's a nice it's a nice look and it kind of unified. All the looks of their cans. There there are a lot They're very similar and they just change by color now But Still Kinda. Hold that uniqueness so if you're looking for DRYDOCK They're gonNA look a little bit different but they're still out there upgrade. In your opinion I think so. You know the drydock had some cool artwork and stuff on it. But it's just like the The old new Belgium cans or bottles of they used to have is that. The artwork was cool but it was just a little busy and sometimes doing more and I think they've done that. They've Kinda minimize the down and focused on. You know making it very clear. What the beer is making it very obvious to pick it out of a out of a lineup and a liquor store guys. This is something that we've talked about on here a lot. Is that some of these drydock and some of these birds that have been around now for for some time. You gotta stay fresh with your logo yet. Stay fresh on top of people's mind. Do you see this. As being something that might reverberate through the rest of the Bruin community that will start to see design refreshes coming out of our covert and try to bring people back to. Here's a new beer. I hadn't seen that one before. I think we're GONNA to see some Different things happen for sure because right now you know you don't have to worry about managing the taproom every night which is a big responsibility and during this downtime. I'm sure a lot of people are trying to take advantage of it and do stuff that they've been wanting to do for a while but haven't had the time to do and so. I wouldn't be surprised to see more things like this. Come out and it wouldn't be a bad thing. I don't think for a lot of people you know to to get that new brand new refresh to keep announcements going. You know and stay stay relevant. I've been seeing that with a with a lot of burrito. A lot of companies overall just top of mind awareness sharing of new brands and sharing of New Logos. And a lot of these can get Breweries are still releasing some some new beer. Yeah there's a ton of places that are releasing new beers You know you can still look all over facebook for a bunch of stuff howl at the moon by Wiley roots was just released last week. And that's Blood Orange Cell to that was released a benefit those impacted by covert nineteen And it was worked on by Wiley Roots and weld works and a bunch of other People in companies everything I believe was donated to it so the cans the labels the you know the grain all of it of the Labor put in by the Burris I think all of it was donated and the Sales of that Blood Orange Seltzer to howl at the moon are all going to go to Mogul covert nineteen kind of Benefit so you know. It's kind of cool to see again. You know Burris are getting together in doing hand sanitizer and doing a bunch of different things and this is just another way that they're trying to help as best they can. That how the Moon. There was a little delay in the release. I think it's actually this coming Friday that it's going to get. The big release is coming to a delay in getting the yeast and so that kind of delayed fermentation and so I think. Friday is the newest date that I've seen that at. That's coming out. Yeah don't worry Sean. I hit on news story a week ago to and had the same thing. And you're you're right. The overall take away from this is still awesome. How they went about it and how it the moon the entire message behind it. I mean everything getting donated. Oh absolutely I. IT'S A. It's a great story in a time. Where good news is is hard to come by. Bruin two breweries working together and putting the product and to help the community. Yeah talking with Shawn Johnson. He's got some news stories here Sean. Let's let's just go ahead and keep working through these. There is a shortage of carbon dioxide. Well Yeah so. A LOT OF CARBON DIOXIDE. That's made Out there as made by the fuel industry actually as You're making ethanol fuels. They're doing what brewers do usually they're using yeast to produce the ethanol in because there are these big huge corporations. They are collecting the carbon dioxide. And also selling that so these fuel companies are able to sell carbon dioxide. Well like now. People aren't traveling so they don't have to produce as much ethanol fuel and so as a side product of that they're not producing as much carbon dioxide and We're actually seeing that you know. Shortages are beginning to cause issues in the smaller. Business kind of Area from this that you know breweries and soda and all of these different things you know. Use Co two for carbonation. Not just the Burris but if you go to a place and they have a Soda Machine. About Soda. Machine has a co two tank in it. That's you know used or they. Ucla to to carbonate the soda. So from what I was finding on this article from Forbes is that Brewers right now are paying twenty five percent more carbon dioxide than they were before which is free steep increase the kind of makes harvesting your own. Co Two. If you're a big brewery that much more economical taken the co two off your own fermenters polishing it up and then using that again well and you talk about a time right now with brees. That are having to watch every penny that they spend. This is an area that that really is an area that they can't can't take a hit on. Well I know at one point before all this happened. Denver Beer company was harvesting their co two and selling it out to greenhouses and other places. So I imagine at this point. They're probably keeping it around and and recycling it and it is kind of expensive if you want to polish the co two to get it to the level that it would need to be a can of beer remove all the oxygen and other gases that are in it and that can be an expensive process but when the cost goes up for industrial co two. Now you're starting to make the harvesting that much more economical. Where you're you're thinking I'm GonNa go this way with even just a small system on how much I mean we're talking about a twenty five quarter increase on this. What does a for breeding do? We have any guesstimates on on. What the cost of something like that would be on the cost of co two for. Let's just say for a batch of beer. I mean Sean did. Did you see anything any ideas on that? I mean in terms of actual costs. It's kind of depends on who your suppliers and things like that if you go to a homebrew store and you want to buy a tank wall. Buying the tank is about a hundred bucks and then every time you fill it up and you know we're talking about a really small tank one that's probably only about foot and a half two feet high You know even that's Twenty fifteen twenty bucks to have it filled up from scratch and so when you get to a brewery where they're using those six bed high cylinders you're talking about hundred a couple of hundred dollars and so twenty five percent you're talking twenty five fifty dollars more per tank. I can start to get you know. Start to get expensive so from a restaurant side. I one hundred pound tanks. The big six foot cylinder five-foot Saunders. I pay fifty dollars a piece for those when I get him in. So you know twenty five percent you know. Add that on so on how many and I don't go through as much as a brewery probably is it. Just do normally order one at a time. How many do you normally order? We have two on and two backups. Nokia at a at a at a time. Yeah you know I have twelve taps. Yeah so you talking. Maybe four hundred five hundred bucks increasing that by talking someplace that Is doing batches a beer? Thirty thirty barrel batches of beer at a time trying to carbonate that around. They're not really gonNA use those tanks. They're going to go one size bigger even two sizes bigger. Now we're trying to even have a liquid storage tank right. Maybe maybe you know I. It's not the bright side of this but it probably the brewing of beer has slow too. So maybe the usage of the CO two has slowed down a little bit too but Again with with an article that we read a couple of weeks ago coming out saying that you know forty. Six percent of local breweries microbreweries aren't gonNA make it again. It's GONNA come down every single dollar and actually I think I've seen that number jump upto sixty percent article I saw. Yeah so tough times for sure. I know that people are finding a way. Ain't gonNA continue to find a way to try and make it happen Sean. We've got another story here that let's let's go ahead and just jump to that one as well. All right Yeah so Brewers association has a bottle share or brutalization bruise on my goodness. I can't talk today. Rusty on me come on now. Sean. It's you know he started beers. I'm sitting in sitting in my office. Drinking Wiley didn't even know you guys are drinking as today. It was just like a sixth sense or something is pretty good. Yeah well I did my Biran Last week went out and got some widely routes and some breaks and some local places. So did that be around next. One will come in about a week or so. But anyways the brewers association bottle share To companies come together. They introduced a fun for breweries and Burry Bruin Guilds They're trying to or they're putting together. It's called the believe in beer fund It supports Uri. State brewers guild across the country. That have been affected by the cove in nineteen pandemic So it started on April twenty. Four th they're accepting applications from Gills and brewers in need of financial support as well as donations from From consumers on kgo funding they have a stated goal of raising one million dollars by may seventeen as of today when I looked at it. They've got about thirty five hundred dollars. Raised You know they're saying this is a very challenging time for burris in their livelihoods at risk we hope by creating this relief fund. We will provide an answer to the most common question beer. Lovers have been asking during this unprecedented time. How can I help So yeah if you know. You're fortunate enough to be able to help. Brewers association and bottle share check him out on that gofundme page and you know offer some funds either them or go directly to your local places and and make sure you help them out as much as possible The other thing I in a facebook group I think that you actually Ademi and their chat about the Save Your Ankle Bird. I know they're doing that as well. They're raising money so there's a lot of little organizations facebook facebook groups that are coming together and doing this too. Yeah so the Savior local breweries. Facebook group is kind of like March madness. Poll to where they started out with certain amount breweries think they're down to the final four right now and the winner of this gets the the pot the Jackpot. Yeah so you know for whatever it is at this point four hundred or five hundred bucks. This kind of goes to help out the BURRI and help out some of the brewery employees. So yeah and even if they don't win. I mean you talk about good. Pr Good top of mind awareness of staying on top of people and making sure that they know when things opened back up there still there. I think originally asked what the group was set out to promote awareness and give free advertising now to people and show people out there Posting pictures supporting their local brewery. So yeah so a lot of that going along and that was a perfect transition and right now again in a matter of everydollar counting could be that six pack as we've gone to and we had a great discussion them out last week. I encourage you to go back and listen that if you want hear. Our thoughts more on on the conversation of the importance of buying local at the moment but A lot of Burris. A lot of people stepping up to save their favorite taproom and Burris at the moment agree. And it's like I said last week and I've said all the time is that The Brewing Company's brewing industry itself is a bunch of family and helping each other out and the consumers helping them out it's Cetera as one. Big Family We can pull through all this together. Now we will do that Sean. We appreciate it do. Is there any other news stories? Anything else. This the the floor is yours? Whatever you have to say well anything within the guidelines you can go ahead and throw out there right now get thing you put that restriction on there because I did have some choice words for you know just you know getting by picking up not really picking up new video games I. That's what I've been doing a lot as you know at the end of the day just playing video games and waiting for things to you know slowly. Go back to a state of normalcy. But hopefully I'll be able to get back in there with you guys soon and other than that just taking it day by day there you go. That's what you can do sean. In you know what you know what it is that I missed about you. Not a damn thing. We'll talk to you next appreciate it. Appreciate your insight. My friends stay safe. Stay healthy and we'll talk to you then. By thanks Sean Johnson. He really does do a great job. Putting those news stories together for us and doing a lot of people are doing are now drinking beer and playing video games. Why Not Yeah? I know exactly. I think that's the way up. All right that's our news stories. Let's get a break. We'll come back on the other side and when we do call and we'll have placed these four beers in these four covered cups so we won't know what's going on. Let's test test our beer tasting abilities when we come back on Brew Talk Thirteen Ten. Kfi K. sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI K. You know what? We don't have any sports on the TV right now. So we're going to create a game of our own you know you've heard of a League of their own in a game of our own here with some beer tests and blind beer tastings and again we've got four days we've got a double we've got a citrus on the outside looking in the should be relatively easy doc. You would think so but not always. Is it easy when you think it is so we've got four beers they're all of the IP but again we've got the motives Mandarin Mandarin A- from Scott so that's a citrus Ip so maybe a little bit we've got this Stone FM l. The double I And a half percent we've got the pikes peak The elephant rock. It's Pike's peak brewing elephant. Rock is the name of the beer. That's a seven point seven percent and then we've got the horse and dragon adventure on now. I believe I have had all of these before. Have you guys had all but Pike's peak? Okay so I've had the speak but it's been a while so do you want to give you a quick refresher on what it tastes like? No because if I do that then it'll I'm going to make it easy judgment for you. I hope so tastes like chocolate chocolate. Visit they've coming okay. So how do we want to do this? Do you want to do it one at a time and we'll just be quiet the whole time we do this so how how about we all tastes number one and then we say what we. Kate is Colin. Poor these so we weren't in the room we stepped outside and Kolon. We're going to give us. We're going to give you results and we did this before where we could change throughout once you say the name of the beer. You're locked in so as you taste something else throughout. You can't go back and change your thoughts. Okay let's start with number one here from smaller. I think I know which one this is making card. Okay do we have to say it now or can we wait till world done? You gotta go one at a time. I'll change my mind you can't we're GONNA lock it in as we go. Oh Man I'm gonNA lock this in. I'm going to say that. This is the adventure on. I'm going to disagree with you and say this is the stone. I believe this is the FM L. The stone who okay all right calling. You got those lock in all right. Let's take a minute and get some water if we need here and go see. I don't know I don't know. Can I talk about why tasted what I tasted or is it too late? You can talk about it all you want right. They're locked in all right number two. Who See this one. I think I know right off the bat from the Smell. I think so too right. That's what I'm getting. It's not as easy but feel like I wanNA taste them all I I really. We're looking for that one. We're going to make this more difficult on ourselves. We're GONNA do this week. I went first last time. Just so we're changing up the order. Go ahead and so I kind of you guys on what you say and do you think. I haven't had this one before. I think this is the elephant rock. I'm going to agree. I think it's the Elfin rock as well. I'M GONNA go with that as well. I think we've got three across there for the elephant rock taking a little as I still didn't spilling water water bottle here. I'm I'm very glad that I haven't chosen this one yet for number three. So Oh yeah for sure right. Usa Jed turn. I think this is the adventure on. I think this is the most Mandarin. I'm going there I do on the knows more than the taste. GonNa Find Out Chas. Locked-in can change your head. All right maybe. My taste buds are blown for that makes. That's why this challenging as can really mess up okay. Last one number for this is going to be the one that obviously so we've been. We've disagreed on one so far. What I yeah so for me. It has to be the adventure on. I'll buy that for a dollar. So that's the only one the because I said this was the adventure on no three. You're saying that's the motives and I'm GonNa say right off the bat that I think I messed up on two so this one is FM. L. For me is what I have to say here but I think I messed up onto. I think four is adventure on. I think to change no right right. I'm just thinking back. Flip flop okay. So I'm actually say Motta's more much more of a citrusy flavor to me. It had a very interesting though. Colin before you give us the results we would like to buy one more round through K. Since making up the rules as we go we're we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA cleaner pallets. We're going to go back through and you can change one of them if you'd like okay. Does that fair time? Pretty happy with what I've chosen so we'll find out you. Can you can lie for a bonus bonus points in okay? All the only thing I do is be like take something and change it and then all of a sudden lose probably trust our gut right. Okay all right. Can you read me what I had the okay? You had the adventure. On the elephants from Pike Speak The motives Moran Mandarin Manned Arena. And then you had the stone okay. Challenging isn't it. I'm confident and wanted to. Yeah I'm I'm going to switch my three to the modus and make my four the adventure on okay. Did you get that? I think I'm going to switch my two and four. What did I say for was Pike's peak for you said was the stone right and I said to was the pikes peak correct? Let's switch to and four for me there and then with that. Let's lock it in ladies and gentlemen for the results you'll have to stick with us through this break when we come back on the other side. We'll see how it go. Dock locked in for bonus points so find out if he won on the other side. Don't go to Earth. Can you name that beer here? Abreu talk on thirteen ten. Kfi Gay catcher tastes studied right with up-to-date news weather and sports mornings with Gail six. Am to nine. Am Weekdays Thirteen Ten k? F K. Mackin Bruce Doc in for playing a little game of name that beer as we had four beers lined up and set off air. That if we didn't get number three right that we would have to find somebody else to come in and do the show. And you're a little bit worried about that because you originally I originally had something different. I remember right columnists I was asking. Did we get any of them right? You've Let's see tanner guy at least two right. The Hawk got one and Chad one so I got to holy cow. Yes all right well. What's your so I win again? First of all it's just wow was brush over okay. Number one they had as the stone they headstone. You had an adventure on it was adventure adventure on Bang. Okay I had to get number. There's no way way try again. Try again now. Try to get now thinking that too. Let's go. Let's go people for back to your new king. It's not alcohol tasting. Nope nope Nope nope just tops tops that earthy tasting okay number two number two was actually the stone so I got the first two right. We Miss Number three. Actually you had three red then since flips. He had three right three or four years. Serve as well and then they had to then because we they number three was the Mary the modus right. So then four would have been the ones that you four was no elephant rock. Four was elephant rock four rock. They actually went four four right. I was GONNA say your before. I'm actually trying them just to see you started. All right. Went Four for four. That's a perfect. It's perfect day out there. It's it's not easy being the good guys. It's really not it's not. I put a lot of hard work in play anymore. They're four four. I don't I don't even think it said in for me. Four four guys. I'm just trying to find a way that I can prove that the accidentally wrong cop slow hand column that twenty years. I think those are the same the unit try to get. No no no no now. If you WANNA put a porter a logger in something else up there I might be able to get it so wonder so the ones that you guys messed up was elephant rock and Stone. Right and elephant rock was the what was it adventure on know you thought. I thought adventure on was the stone. Okay re re re through. What exactly the four were in order calling for. An order was adventure on stone the modus modus and elephant. Okay and then. What did she hadn't Oxy They both said don't elephants modus adventure so you as one for four. Yeah four four. They're both you and you just have to Kinda rubbing elbow need sports. The great one rains. I I know where I was going to this. I was trying to even find a loophole. Saying Yeah maybe just messed up elephant rock because you haven't had it in so long but I can make no excuses. For Doc is very doc is taking a strategic approach. Going back through these. They're all really good beers excited about beer thirty can we agree on that absolutely because who doesn't like IPA's that's very true? I'm just baffled. I can't do this. You make me question my whole you. Can I get even with the the lease at least about this? This is just telling. Ya in the six six. Let me see your text messages. Collins got a twenty dollar bill in his book the order in which I left him on the table and I said No. They weren't so it's all clean so you think that was the Klu Klu they were working on some kind of code calling was back there tapping on which ones Terry solving looking back was the only one in the room facing all and and he's in a bulletproof changes. Cheaters NO I. I am very happy about this though. This is the first time I've won anything in my life ever actually so mom I did Daca doing to get your thoughts. What are your takeaways? Now that you've gone back and tried to cook. Well I knew they'd be tough for me anyhow because once you taste the first. Ip especially the American West Coast Ip. As that. We've been trying here They are very overpowering. And I knew the first thing that would happen would cloud my tongue right and then not being able to go through and tastes the subtleties. I before making the call makes it difficult to do. Well and that's exactly right and then the The one that we all I knew we all got three. I felt very confident that and I got that on the news more than anything. Because I was happy the I got three I would have been looking for cool new switch over you know. They're in the reason that I it kind of even for me. I swear I'm being honest on this. I didn't just guessing the by the reason that kind of more further Semitic what I was thinking here was because three I didn't get hardly any citrus and I knew that the big alcohol and the big hops from the stone probably would kill that a little bit more. I don't know if that sound reasoning or not. That's good reasoning. But that's kind of where I kind of started and obviously worked for enrolling through the other ones were just because the adventure because I had that I had one that sat in my fridge for a long time and I tried it and it was it was bad like I poured it out because it sat there for so long but what it really come to the front of it was the piney almost pine needle taste and I got that instead of the alcohol on it. Obviously but I mean I I did change it so I didn't. I didn't even get it right. The first time I was too for for the first time and I we talked about this during the break but you know in my mind preset conceptions about what I remember these beers tasting and it had been some time since they probably had never even had one of them before. Yeah right so you know I think in my head. The good news is that if we are having trouble telling the difference between them that says that these are all very good. Beers was all. Were sure. We'll see you know. We even took a step back here and we looked at it and said okay. These were a little bit tougher to to judge on because that elephant rock is seven point seven percent alcohol. That's no slouch. Eight and a half. And then you've got the adventure on that kind of has that same seem. Aftertaste is is a big big alcohol beer so this and I think it's at five six that what I saw on it Dr Yoram. I don't remember I'll have to do some percents again. I think that's not what the motives is the lowest of and it's a lot. It's six eight so I mean it's all right there because I was looking for like lower alcohol higher alcohol. Try to lead myself into your thought. I got on the first one so I automatically went to the stone. Kalicki tickets out with like we're the champion or something and by we. I mean me. I'm going to be insufferable for the next hour. That's okay you can have your moment of glory. Aroma needed something after your allstate quarterback and maybe now off something else to talk about. It's not going to be Hey remember that time when I was on. I'll stay quarterback me. Hey remember that time four for four I do. I don't even know where we talk about. What are we what are we talking about for what? I've already forgotten that Wendy's from fourth come back hour number two. We'll get this train back on track here But Yeah I remember. I just won the The tasting here So better next time. 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"It's been a long week. Grab a beer and sit. Back is plutarch. Here's tanner chad. And the doctor himself. Dr michael moser good wednesday evening northern colorado. Welcome in to be auto collision specialist studios. This brew talk coming to you. Live and i've got. I don't even know how to describe it three What's the adjective morons Hey hey bring come bearing gifts. Yeah and you're gonna mock. I aspire to that term. By the way more he'd do a very good job. You job reaching why came here me. Chad young owner the terrorists. They michael how are you fantastic. Fantastic night's had thanks Dr michael mosier. Unc bringing laboratory sciences rule One of five. How are you. I'm doing wonderfully well. Nice hat Brady whole host the whole show get nice head thank you. Thanks for being in high. Hello so that this is your your jam love. It love it. I don't think he was always expected to say a lot. He thinks i talk a lot or something he's like. No we got a fund. Show these hats sorting hats. Though from it is it is this already had. But they're taking too long with you guys to figure out they go older. I don't think i can use that language on the radio We do have a fun. Show lineup for you tonight. kyle car bought with wiley. Roots will join us for an interview. they've got great cornhole tournaments every single sunday. We'll talk with kyle about that. I'm always interested to like with burris who these kind of got a niche trade. He's more the the fruit ear type of beers. More of the sour beers do does like october fest In this time of the season affect what he does much Or does he kinda just stay on track. They do have a fest style beer. Do they leave something leaves. I think it's called but yeah pretty good. That's the question that i want. I want to see With kyle get an update on whiteley roots. Everything that we'll get into beer thirty. Let chad introduce our. Because i don't even think. I can say it but it'll be a loved. One ale works a beer. That will be having there as well But kick off the show. I want to start off with a story that we shared up on our facebook page. How you just a paywall that's going to get. you sometimes. don't want food and wine. I do want food and wine. But i don't wanna pay for it. There's a lot of ads going on on that page. There is this computer virus by the time. It's done you looking at close up. Browser samuel adams new limited edition beer is illegal in fifteen states. And i love the headline. There you talk about writing for clicks They did a good job of that But it's the latest utopia is out and it has an abc of twenty eight percent. Now do this beer every single year they do. I've had not too long ago. I tried some And it was. It was good again. Hundred and forty dollars for like how much. How much do you get like. It's a pretty large pretty large bottle. It's it's a bomber but it comes kind of you know what a grandma bottle it kind of looks like that. It's going to say it's not two hundred. Forty ounces or two hundred and eighty ounces of beer right now. Not quite you guys. Are our food. People beer people being in the brewery restaurant industry Would you pay blake a crazy amount of money for something to drink or is that are you just like you know what's well for quite a bit for a little whiskey sample. How much is quite a bit Thirty five dollars which is not much but for me at beer drinker. Eight hundred fifty dollars for whiskey. One hundred fifty. Yeah but you. Tanner up for potholes. I've gone up there. I think the most expensive bottle of whisky was like two hundred and fifty bucks that i spent for a whole bottle not And that was a gift for somebody there. Wasn't we've got two hundred fifty dollar bottle of tequila sitting in my house right this is. There's only thirteen thousand bottles that were produced in each oversized twenty. Five point. four ounce bottle. So that's how big is twenty five point. Four ounce bottle has the suggested retail price of two hundred and forty dollars. Samuel adams has emphasized that this beer that is is meant to be sipped and savored not shocking time. Sipidan savoring sometime. So i mean it's all season. I'm nervous i drink. That's why i don't have two hundred fifty dollar bottle of vodka on my shelf. I just think i'm i. I love sam adams. That's my october fest. That's my jam. But i don't I just. I'm too easy to please when it comes to drink and beer to spend two hundred dollars right now. There's no way in hell. I'd touch this either for two hundred forty a casual drinking kind of beer. This is one that you maybe get a group of friends together. If you're a collector there are bir collectors out there that you know you get together you buy a bottle and then you sit around and and maybe you taste it and compared to previous years so it's kind of battle every year and you just kind of compare it. Yeah we've all heard of places like brew dog and other companies that would sell like a twelve ounce bottle of beer for this kind of price right and twelve ounces with that kind of price. You're talking okay. Gotta have drive. And then everybody's gonna way out exactly how much they get for sure. Yeah so so. The reason it is illegal It's legally prohibited from being sold in alabama. Arkansas georgia idaho missouri. Mississippi montana north carolina new hampshire oklahoma oregon south carolina utah vermont and west virginia. She get all those. It is illegal for their because Those states each limit on the of any beer that can be sold. Twenty percent does go over that and really like we were talking a little bit before. Show chad. This is much more like a a whiskey or bourbon or something. We're cordial the you sit around you sip after dinner. Yeah like a for and either sit in front of the fire your smoking jacket and you wafted around and have a cigar. Maybe i wanna smoking jacket. won't cut out with that hat. Thank you so ridiculous. Contact and stephan and see if they have smoking these ads. Where did you get these. These are official october fest. Hats got to for october fest. Still october fest season. We've got a a weekend plus a few days left right So yeah we you know we wanted to look festive this. This is like a very weird fever dream. I had once with all four of you. Stared ryan's got his own back. There is a bunch of gnomes mackillop. Turn it around and your gandalf charitable a fast one. And he's just trying to get rid of these right now and he. He tried to leave all five of them on my desk because he walked out. And i'm like no go distributors and each and every one of them have found home time. Love this. It's an amazing hat. Yeah it really is. It's you actually wear that out in the public. Not a beer festival you have into public. What were you're at work or two days. How hot were you in that happened. It's does she works. It's felt that there's no breathing. It's it's awesome so it's a great winter hat and it is. What was the purpose of these. Headstart gives the history of these heads. take wanted. They wanted to advertise their name. And they figured there'd be some silly americans that would put this. You look at photos of october fest. Their people in lederhosen wear hats very similar. Yes yes it's very interesting. I think maybe at a beer festival after my fourth year put it on. 'cause they wear suspenders in. I'm thanking you. Wear a cardboard box as with a cowboy hat. Like the beer thing that but you won't wear this when did you. When did you see actually take a shot in the dark. But i'm guessing you wore one of those lie after the four beers. No no. If if if i'm a beer festival drinking event yeah i'll throw them you. I've seen you in a santa claus suit before. I look good in that. I know and i'm just getting ready for october fest this week. That's true the greeley. October fest is coming up but if i put that hat down all the way that you could just see my mustache. Yeah they'd just be walking mustache towards people terrifying yeah. I don't think the muscle terrifying it's coming around on you October fest coming up this weekend Had some beer festivals over. The i talked with that Dan miller with mighty river. He said river fest went phenomenal people. There's just so excited and the weather's been perfect for. I mean those last two days I about my pumpkin spice latte beers out and And started drinking those and put on my oaks and and Scarves like all the the basic white women do at college But that that is per- perfect. October october fest weather. We've talked about that just in time to and those beers are starting to come out and a local breweries as well and it's very very true and this weekend like like you said with the greeley october fest coming out This can be a perfect time to get down there. We are were poor two beers in our own tent. And we've got one in the vip right lead. You how do we can. You give us a vip passes. Let's talk okay. All right the hat would not get. Laws is without you guys that a beer festival and i wondered off. They are walking unison. Except the other hats i gave out. So it's true you get lost gang or club. It's a cult. The cult of personality do sorting hat for sure. I definitely looks like it should go get my leader. Hosing them put those on. And maybe it'll look better make more sense. Yeah you could try it. You could try. What out of the local breweries around town in past years. Who has done the best october. So far the you guys have had theirs euros. Oreo celebration beer a good question. Good question because i think each one of them is good in its own way And i'm not trying to be. Dogmatic mayors october fest right. There's really good very good but every one of them has a little Tweak on the character of that style and you might like this one. Are you might like that one. And they're equally as good. I think so. I know it sounds like i'm playing no favorites but i am on purpose because every one of them i think is yummy in their own way. This is the time of year that i really started to think of bricks a little bit more. I don't know why if that was the first down there. What but between their red and their october fest. Like i feel like this is really when they gotta hit their stride. But i think you know if you look at pro seasons vie to both style. Breweries their their fest beers or october. Fest beers. Are you know a lot more. Traditional than maybe bricks is bricks is probably a better version of an american style. Yeah american take on it. But you know if you look at zion prost. I think they both do great great jobs. That's when i started like virus around. This time time i went in there was like oh wow. This isn't trying their october style. October fest dials. And just a lot. I mean they do it. They do a better than you're right. That's a great point. They do it better than most. Yeah well and that was so. I've got a member of my family. That is actually did dating somebody from germany and i was like where can i find german beer. And there's obviously still a little bit of a barrier. There still learning english zero german. And i and. I'm trying to tell them to. Fi goes by and he kept say and Well i know. I know of two brothers. Two brothers is supposed to be good at. I might know vise where you wanna go to the same players and we had. We had like a five minute. We were yelling at each other by the time this is over and it hit us like oh finally there but he he went and checked it out and he said that. It's almost almost what you get over. Germany it's one of my go-to me living and tim nathan almost fort collins but also working here. But when i'm there i means vise just that's a thing i love that place i have also heard is october fest. The october is it overrated. Because i have heard From at least some of the local people that it's getting to the point where it's almost too big that it's a little overrated. It's like mardi gras new orleans. It's you know it's something you might wanna do once in your lifetime right But it is. It's a it's a big drunk fest and it's very touristy. We're talking about the one germany. Germany yeah yeah i think probably probably but you know i think it's still be funded. The do it once in your life. You think it'd be great to sit there and eat a big gigantic pretzel and have a big gigantic glass of beer and listen to the big gigantic. Said right okay. Yeah 'cause you guys like hoon pop man understand what bloomberg as they say but no. I think it's i to agree with that. Says i'm gonna agree with chad. I think it'd be a great time to go there at least once. Just like gab. F- go there at least once experience whether you love the scene and wanna go back. You'll you'll make that call and if you're looking to sponsor for us to go there it's tanner t. a. n. e. or one three one zero cave. Gay dot com. And you can get us there. You're gonna hang out we're gonna hang out with us me out you little your hats and it comes with beer. Well i might as well nelson. You look out since i checked out in july is there's a lot of truth behind that we'll be back. It's bert talk with widely routes next northern colorado's voice. What are three one at thirteen ten. Kfi game Prep sports in the unc. Bears or northern colorado's voice three point one in thirteen ten kfi k. quarterback in tok on this wednesday evening. Thanks for being with us. Chad young order the tavern Dr mosier with unc bringing laboratory sciences and rule one. oh five brady whole lover Those are our title. that's fine. they works. Thanks for being back with us Joining us up on the hotline hit is owner of wiley roots. Kind of car by kyle. How are you my friend. I'm well how are you guys doing doing. great man. You kyle step aside related together. That's for dang sure. It has been my friend i it is for sure. So con- what have you been up to my man man we've been we've been cranking through the summer. Just got this thirty barrel brew house up and running in figuring that out so Yeah that's that's been my life lately. How much how. Much different is that. the new system you got in there well to put it simply We were brewing with effectively. A bathtub Seven and a half years and This this new system has more computing power and electron ix on it then I think any car. I i own a lot of science behind that man. I mean you. You are in kyle. Every time i've talked to you you are the science guy. So i mean for you to have stuff like this at your disposal. I mean it's got to be the perfect match my friend. It's a lot of fun. It makes brewing A little bit more. Easy in terms of You know what we were doing what we're doing now but Yeah my day is holier and fuller and fuller. I can do a whole lot more stuff around the brewery. So do you worry about this mosier Do you worry about maybe scaling things up To get to the right kind of flavor profile that you had when you were doing it in the bathtub. Yup absolutely That's been one of the things that we've been thinking about a lot. It's just in terms of how to scale risks fees and hit gravity's and You know even just down to the use of like criminals and roasted mob sa- need last Has these gehlot figuring that out last time. We talked to You you had brought a new addition to the team. How how's your staff hanging in there. Yeah the team's doing pretty well. You know the pandemic obviously you things going on and true namic did have its things going on. Yeah so that's definitely affected. I think everything from you. Know staffing to supply chains up to try to try to balance and and manage everything. It's it's definitely been more difficult year and a half to manage business. And i would say any of the other years that we've been it does uh-huh yeah and we've we've talked at length here on this program to about the supply chain shortage. Is that something you're still dealing with. And a lot of industries are the absolutely you know last fall. It was It was cans right. That was the big thing that we were dealing with. Everybody wants to can This year it smoothed out a little bit more just because there's Competing businesses like pepsi and coke. They they've gotten back to where they actually filling the draft fountain stuff so they're not competing for that manufacturing space as much as as they were a year ago but just shipping and Fruit that's a. That's a big thing right. Now is the the fruit crops that were. We're seeing goto Me no cure as and concentrates and all that stuff. There's just not nearly the volume that was going to those channels that kind of the pre pandemic level. So what can you do to. Combat this. Or at their mercy. You know we've had to get a little bit creative. In terms of using you know different citrus fruit and things that You know are are a little bit more diversified in terms of i like blackberry and raspberry you are not finding that right now blackberry raspberry Docs face is lit up over here. Because i think he just went as maria sarah stockpile so there you go for the right you can find it by it. I know a guy who knows the guys. But we're talking with calcutta by the owner of widely routes Brewing here in october. Fest is among us kyle. Where does Like october fest fest. Type of beers rank in your heart and In your palate for a beers that you enjoy. Oh gosh i love drinking seasonally as it is You know there's nothing like a good festival of beer as soon as the overnight temperature. Drop into the fifties. That's that's my. That's one of my favorite times of the year so I would say they're they're up there in the top of top favorite fears that you know are out there and that we grew to kyle. I know Back in you brew talk of yesteryear we definitely say Golden as rejectsait. You're to challenge the boot. The dos boot challenged by our very own colefax here and i thought colfax was pretty good but my goodness what was the time on that. What was your record. I think it was It was in the low eight was in ohio. I pretty sure that there was like a light glowing around kyle. As he was chugging it just picture him like listening and it was. The hair was blowing in the wind. It was it was I still think about that quite often. More than i'm assuming we're talking seconds chaddy give him a run no no. I don't think i've never go down as anybody. Beat you know i i. I haven't challenged anyone a little while you know a year ago Nobody was doing anything publicly but I was challenged with myself in the mirror. So what are we got. We got about a week and a half left. Is that right chad. So kyle if we could find you a challenger would you be willing to To defend the title. I'm always up for for. I think the best that i ever did was ten seconds so i i would have to shave a couple of seconds up to even come up coal facts and see what happens down a problem. We gotta find somebody challenger we gotta find a worthy challenge fastest. I ever saw done and this was a legit one. This was actually the same. Well it was the exact same booth that you used cal. No it was one of those but was seven seconds. He did it in seven seconds. but i will caveat it was. It was like a bud light or something like that. So that doesn't count as much doesn't count is the carbonation that backs up and then slows you down as you go. Or what's the methodology behind a cow. You know the ut things are are guess carbonation but also temperature than if you're drinking at super cold hole it it hits the bottom. Yeah then then it starts doing some weird things. Yeah all right all right so we. We need to find a challenge. We may have to if anyone's whoever's listening right now thinks that they can challenge. Kyle mister mister car bah and we'll give it a shot now now. I'm curious now. I want to do the boot. Just gonna go home and practice. He's gonna do. That's all going to be on my mind q. The rocky monetize. Maybe i'm ready to push ups and all the game you haven't drank wants out of their boots. So kyle before we let you go. What do you got going on it wiley. Do you have Fest bureau and for yourself as well we do. Yeah yeah we. We have our all seasonal cup leaper It's named after All those people driving up by seventy to look at least you know on occasion. I can be found on the weekend scope and the colors so when when they let me out of the bereaved at all right and lasting here this is something that i'm pretty confident i could. I could win and You got cornhole tournaments every sunday. We do yeah yeah we. We just had one sponsored by the exchange club last weekend That was on saturday. But yeah every sunday we've got Cornhole tournament certain at three Three pm is basically Five bucks to join and then you have the opportunity to win a four pack of I contract beers and Yeah it It turns out great out drinking beer on the patio bags. And it's a good time. All right thanks for jumping on man. I appreciate it and we'll We might see if we can find you a challenger here soon. Great sounds great right. I love that's very old weirdo. But it's the. I think the heads making you weird making the hat weird. What is the is was it. The hustle puffs that. We're the weirdest and harry potter now. As much as i love harry potter i can only the griffin door and then the silver slither. Those are the only two like the other two. It's like what what are the. What are you guys do is unique doors. Doing all the beaten. All the bad guys in the castle on southern's like you know evil people but what are the other two like what what are they about. Don't ask me. What are those houses reichheld. What are those houses about. What do they do. A just helpful can claw. Yeah what do they do. I don't know i wasn't like psalm. Streaks hustle. Puff puff is like the the Creative out of the box imaginary ones right that they're always their head in the head and they were real. I saw weren't a problem. You guys are all drinking seasonally. I'm drinking daily. That makes big difference right. No i don't care you don't care. What's your favorite harry potter movie. And why is it half blood prince. That is true. No it's not my favorite's the first one is it really order of the phoenix. That's i mean. Once we get past the fourth win the competition that they're they're all like a mate. I like all of them. But they're like epic movies after that. The prisoner ask. i mean. that's a good one. That's my favorite one. That was my favorite book. Yeah that was a great book. That i haven't read anyhow fake fake fan brady whole doesn't love harry potter all right. Let's get a break. We'll come back on the other side. Will he got totally distracted. He's like a little kid over there. It was talking about him for like thirty seconds living his revenge planning my revenge. We'll be back. It's bruce nor the gardens voice one or three wanted thirteen ten. Kfi join clark. Johnson and bruce dick for argon coach weekdays. Eleven another in colorado's voice one over three point one in thirteen ten kfi k. Harry show going on in here. Three guys are dressed up like Dumbledore kid know what is by the way i what are you doing. Why would you lert. Oh the last one came out in two thousand and doesn't matter because we're in a world where people see movies until it tough on them. Mike you for that. That's what they deserve if utah harry potter by now. So he's spoiled the ending to marvel the what happened with. What's her face kamara. He's spoiled that for me. Is your own fault. I said. I'm sorry i had at the guy first of all i didn't spoil it. I just made face. And you're like you said when i didn't know i didn't because i made a weird face just started guessing and then i was like you know to put this out of the misery. I'm going to go ahead and say it. You don't do that. Rules of movies. I'll tell you that at the end of casablanca. Yeah they let them get away ternent. I've never seen only a hundred years. Old oil titanic for you walk. No way right. chad What time is it always a beer beer. Thirty already. Let's get into this Chad has brought what looks like an delicious beer Here on the table. What do you got for us bottle. But you need one okay. So this is non d. fantastic fantasy which translates from french into fancy name over chinese fantastic. So this is from loveland ale. Works i am. I love the things that nick and his crew do over there They were our very first beer dinner. So maybe that's they got a special. Don't lose the hat okay. it's too hot. it's getting pretty warm. I definitely You've been decided it's still thinking okay back to the fancy name beer. Yeah so this is On french oak it's a multi or mixed for fermentation sour over cherries. so All right. We'll pass that around and looks like it is right up. My alley haven't had a sour in longtime you remember when i went on that. It's our cake. And that's all i drink for like four months not remember that i wrote in my diary. I love the name of this one. Why not named fancy name beer. It looks like it. What was nine percent who very little to extreme cherries right on the nose gets its tar. Cherry's that are used and the microphone. You're smelling into the full people. Want to know what's going on right now. What am i smelling beer. Foam and bad breath. No that's the microphone star. It doesn't have enough oil big head on it Not a lot of foam little cloudy and definitely just the right kind of cherry flavor. That you'd want during cherry cherry smell and jerry. Rhome i think's josh. It's not too much. It's not as overpowering with cheers. Is i thought it was going to be. Yeah it's not extremely tart. Sour actually finished his sweet indefinitely. Does it does have some power though. Yeah but then it goes away. Yeah normally sours bother me big time like you can feel it in your job. I don't feel any of that stuff there. I'm celebrating a little bit after i finish. But it's not it's not too bad. That's pretty It's pretty good. Yeah it is it is a very good it definitely makes me want to have to go and grab some to eat because this is the kind of beer that when you when i get this hour in the pucker power and stuff like that i wanna i wanna have something to go with like a nice piece of chocolate cake or something. This is the kind of this is like a before dinner beer. Well he's kinda gets that appetite. Okay can i can join my attempted a with absolutely go for I guess salmon salad would that go anywhere. yeah yeah. that doesn't sound good to me. Salmon fron atlantis. Is that what you mean like tuna salad. Bally's sort of what no you put it on the gourmet. Grab for the whole review. You remember what i'm talking about. No okay good. Let's move on Salmon could be all right. I don't know if i'd go with salad smoked salmon. I do that on. Crackers smoke sandwich. Would you give your your salad. Thank you thank you. I like you to seven moose. Be careful of that. Same moves hybrid. Sorry i've got the hat on. It's still thinking weird. That's going on in my brain. It's still checking for brain. Find back to the beer. I thought it was going to be more punch in the face. And it's It doesn't there. It doesn't i would not like if you offered me. This didn't tell me anything. I wouldn't think it was a sour necessarily warming going on in the belly. Yeah it does well. That's at nine percent. Show yeah. I guess i would think it's a sour but it doesn't taste as strong as that i've had right. I like that about this. There's some sours i mean. It's got to be just two or three maybe at the most and this or one even with those extremists. You can have a few of these. I think we all right. Like i could finish out. I think amenable to nine percent. If you want to finish the twenty two ounce bomber by yourself challenge kyle Boot challenge so you can't fifteen states in the union here. Yeah that is true. That is true. They've got a view on it. I don't know. I think. I think it's i could smell the barrel in it. I finally was able to there. Is it took a while to get to my nose. Now that i've got just a little bit left on. The bottom. I think is where i'm getting it the barrel or the. Yeah the barrel. The tartness seems like it's coming at the like with a little bit left. It seems like it's a little bit more tartan i would say that. That's an interesting beer very good. So how do you guys. Bits of bit a while. I'm out of the game while how do you. How do you review this right. Thank you nice. Segue much whole show told her to Q. it's a level website. I'll show dot com better than one in the morning morning. She has over of nine. Eleven was think much before nine. One that Tavern sponsors have you need to make a change wearing the sorting hat remember. Look who's not true. It's all about being a team player. Let's look who's wearing the hat on now. Okay so how we do this Eight and above it's got is bir talk approved. It's got to be the average of all four of us Anything below is not. If it's approved it means we're put our stamp on it saying you should absolutely by this beer again. What is the fancy name. Beer nom de facto. See serwa last word is is. Don't work very well. Do you rate it as sour or you rate it just as a beer by itself is a beer. Yeah we we. I also take into effect the decay on the artwork and stuff like that. This is obviously not a can but I take that into effect Are we ready to Maker scores. I think my hat has made me decide to particular now All right interesting chadli. You're gonna kick ass here. I really like this. I'm going with a nine one. That's good that's real. Good me okay. i I am not as big of a mixed fermentation sours guys. Everybody else So i still think it's quite good But i'm going to go seven point five. Wow okay so five okay. I don't like sours normally. i'm not a big sour guy. But i the i like to drinks did not taste that much like a sour. 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Humble Monk Brewing Company, Belgian Inspired, Cincinnati Beer.

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Humble Monk Brewing Company, Belgian Inspired, Cincinnati Beer.

"It the gentlemen boys and girls welcome back since I'm the GNARLY nome and it's Uh as you said it's a good day drink beer absolutely welcome back to the show before we dive into things As a reminder the show is brought to you by drinkers like you. If you want to know more about how you can support your shown how you can keep Keep the lights on quote unquote you can go to the GNARLY DOT COM support. And I promise you that Everything that people give makes a huge huge huge difference in all of this so if you already support thank you if if you want to thank you welcome we are we. We're at humble monk. Finally I've been trying to figure out a way to make this show happen for well about a year now absolutely women's the actual opening date do we know an actual date because I think in my notes. It's just January. Yeah we we actually did a soft launch Thinking that we would have a few folks wondering in and out and ran out of all the beer brewed weekend. I've heard that story from other places and Yeah we had to shut down but You know we're using January thirty first is our actual anniversary date so you guys are getting right up there on a year if you haven't technically hit it already already but exactly congratulations and We need to. There's there's a whole big story of what this place is and what it's all about that we have to tell them These first episodes where we get to sit down with somebody for the first time. We're always fun but There is something else very important that we always do on the show and that's drink beer because it's it's beer podcast. Why else take your podcast? If you can't take here we call that segment the beer freightage. Even though we're not getting the time we to do what we do again. But a lot of shows from in-studio. We had a beer fridge. And that's where we were pulling bottles and stuff Sheringham so beer taps. I guess this week so let's start Thera dive into a beer and then what kind of work our way through the story of humble monk in how you guys got here absolutely you want you want to try the one that yes absolutely. This is a what we call the. Are Peter Beer. kind of a Belgian single delicate hop flavor throughout it does have a nice happiness though too yes she said. That's a Saas Saas hops. You get that good floral floral flora happiness but still that good little bite to it that a very reminiscent of of a Of Appeals nursing kind of lighter but hoppy are kind of Brigham Yup as we as we After a long day we call this our work water. It's kind of my go-to and pet if you guessed brewers in your helping helping in the they tend to gravitate towards this as well so what does paid or beer father is it's Flemish for father okay as you were pointing Out It technically was back. In the day was the leftovers. The monks would use out of the mash time and create a beer. And and like I told you we we just went ahead and you know instead of making a party Gal beer. We went ahead and created this beer to locate that. It was a party guy. We've we've talked about on the show at some point. I don't know what episode it would have been but You make a beer usually a bigger beer and then after you're finished and You Bet it's still sitting there. You can run more water through get more of that sugar out of it and then run a whole second beer out of a basically exactly and you know. This was is the Frugal Montclair. If you will the leftovers the humble beer it's fantastic. I enjoy this I. I tend to gravitate advocate especially lately. I don't know towards a little bit lighter beers but with a little bit of that that kind of snapped 'em be it something that's a little tart or it's a little bit hoppy this might with a little bit of a snap to it. I guess is Is kind of where I've been Gravitating lately I don't know if that's a thing that is going to stick for for a long time or weapon. It's definitely been my go-to and this is great. This is really really refreshing. Really Great Beer for the first one after a long day at work with absolutely they were just getting warmed up so if if you had to say a beer was kind of your flagship idea of what this the places about isn't something like this or is it something that is a little more More kind of in your face Belgian. Well I think In all kinds of answer this kind of around the the mountaineer we're Belgian forward and we want to explore all kinds of Belgian styles but also have other things on tap especially in the taproom for folks that might WanNa happier beer But In your face I would say this is one of them. But as I don't know if you noticed on our on on our Listed Beers in the taproom we have a single a double and a triple. And you you know again it's GonNa give you the full gamut. I think I've been to a GNARLY GNOME historical. Talk where someone when asked you. What's your favorite beer? And they said well it's all kind of depends on my mood right. Okay am same thing here we've got we've got. We've got eight samples in front of us by the away folks and There's all kinds of moods here and we're trying to hit on that for the customer as well as Kinda stay true to Belgian forward styles. Were always going to have those on tap and hopefully get out in the community here and and selling to restaurants bars. Well in in the near future did I answer that you did going around and got there. Let's talk about the story of of humble. Monk how you guys got here. I think Well we can start art with. I think when people started hearing about you guys right you had a different name. We did we we were Rabbit Hash Brewery The Internet didn't like that very much talk. You know. We were not born and raised in Kentucky. But the family in Kentucky when my I Y Wife Emigrated States That's where she was raised and ultimately we ended up in Boone County We thought we we give a nod to the community it. It will happen prior to you. Know we incorporated and I'll happen prior to the general store burning down but I don't know someone Kinda got a twist that we were trying to appropriate you know a mishap in Rabbit Hash to get notoriety Ryan and I told my son I said listen. We haven't brew to drop a beer commercially. You know if they don't like the nameless have them naming right and We ended up crowdsourcing our name with a contest on facebook and It kind of blew up from. I'm there I mean we had maybe one hundred people look at our facebook page to turn out forty thousand plus in a week It it was a lot of fun and We we liked the name. We knew we were always going to do Belgian style beers is just It really segues into what we were doing it and make branding branding. It makes more sense as early when I when I look at the tap room and I guess we can kind of explain. Kind of what the people of the tapper most to There's a lot of lot of rustic kind kind of vibes to it's there's a lot of repurposing of things I could have seen this kind of take more of that Rabbit Hash kind of idea India and run with that but I think the beer lends itself more towards the idea of humble monk the the the church pews that are scattered perfect for humble monk. Sure there's lots of little touches now that I look at them. I go with this if you just stopped Rabbit Hash on on the name here. It wouldn't work nearly as good as humble monk. Does this look different. If it was still rabbit hash we're staring e-eh the back of one hundred and fifty year old Pocket door from first Lutheran in over the Rhine br yeah that door was sitting in their boiler room. We had some friends that go to church there and they said come and get the store come and get the door. And as basically has the story goes we They kind of bugged me and bug me and finally we went over there and got it right and what we're looking at is what I saw a picture and we turned it around us. Of course you saw the panels and all we did with that is kind of give it a little TLC and they became the kind of the centerpiece for this rumor. Sitting in the back of because this was supposed to be just drywall with a double Dutch door right and so he designed over that fun and it's been it's been a lot of challenges oranges but still it's it's it's been an amazing journey from the last year. Well and it it you know kind of the you talked about Challenges GonNa Piecing this this together. You guys are not one of those heavily funded Breweries that we see pop up from from time to time around This is this is done on the backs of you guys. And and you know some other Investment but I think that enables a place to kind of develop their story story a little bit heavier over time instead of having to before you even dive into construction knowing exactly what this place is what it's about how you communicate that to the customer and there's there's there's a lot of time that has to go into that before you open your doors whereas processes like this and kind of it it it enables the debris a little bit and kind of become who the brewery as you guys. You guys have done a great job of doing that. Well thank you. Yeah we're We're we're hoping this quarter to be scaled up to ten barrel brew House We're right still ran off our little two barrel pilot system that we put together almost as an afterthought but It's really allowed us to explore a lot of different career formulas styles and take a lot of risks that you wouldn't be able to take on a ten barrel a thirty barrel system. Let's let's dive into another beer. Sure sure what is what does this number eight here now. He's number eight number. Eight is a Malt Seltzer. There's looks extremely. It is a my cup of tea but again you know sometimes you know if a customer needs degreen suit you turn on a green light this happens to have a green hue to it is a little bit it it is actually a a hard malt seltzer green apple sentiment okay so so taking it a little different little different road them a lot of that kind of that middle ground CIDER Seltzer. Kind of thing that Some drinkers are definitely looking for right. Now absolutely I have to warn you. I've been I've been a little rough on shelters the last couple of months on the show I do enjoy that. It's not so when you when you say green apple you anticipate resonate really over the top green apple flavor. And you don't get that here. It's it's definitely there but it's almost like a more like warm kind of green apple kind of thing in the in the background ground. Almost absolutely this is actually more cocktail like than it is like a cider. That's where when when you describe it. That's where my head goes. He's he's like cider and this is definitely more more kind of like a cocktail kind of flavor profile it it the the actual base molter Sir at at it lends itself to almost like cider notes. We were pretty amaz with with it when we kind of concocted this thing and Is it my go-to absolutely not. I like craft beer but we get you know again. We've get some customers in here that are tagging along with their craft beer Friends right and this lends itself to giving them something. A little bit lighter a little bit different. I'd be curious to try over ice. You know something like that and kind of make it into more of a more of a cocktail kind of presentation. He's it's good. It's definitely definitely not going to be my first pick when I walk up to task but enjoy it. Yeah it's IT'S I. I think it's a little bit I. It's above average. I think for There's a lot of them. A LOT OF SELTZER STU. They're trying to hide. They're trying to be as neutral as they can possibly be trying to get rid of all of that other character that fermentation can bring. This doesn't do that. It kind of it owns up to the fact that let's mult Seltzer. You still get that malt character to it. You still get some of those other esters kind of going on from the from the green apple and that kind of stuff in it It owns and it rolls with it and it's it's pretty good it's We'd like to advertise beers. Like you know if it's going to have it in there you gotta find it eat. You see you don't have to be a super palate to taste it not not that we're saying we want our beers to be over the top in fact Other than the next year. We're going to drink when we do. Our Belgians I tend to lock the spice cabinet we with Malt. We do it with you. Know A hops. We do it with our yeast video with temperature Not say that you know coriander and everything else under the sun that you know a lot of American craft burs used to make a Belgian style. Beer can't be used. I'm I disliked to approach it in a simplistic way. So you know we can have fun with that Belgian style. Starting out right. Let's go ahead and go to the next one all right Number two is a Belgian double little bit on on the darker side and this does have add chunks in it. I'm not gonNa tell you what they are that we're not allowed to get that dark fruit kind of character to it really. It's definitely hardier more warming more more more full that especially coming off of drinking assaulter. Yes this is enjoyable. It's still so on the show. I think I can probably you could blow up a lot of quotes of me saying that. I do not like Belgian beer and what I've I think I've figured out over the last year or so is that that's not really what it is but there there's definitely a lot of Belgian beers that the that yeast profile is just over the top. That's all that you get and I think that's the thing that I kind of shy away from the over the top east profile. This is still A. They're still beer. Here there's still a good body to a good a good good malt flavor going on. It's good I like it. Yeah I should I give up the give up the only one engaged raisins the Dartford nail on the head there. It's it's really enjoyable especially it's a little chilly outside outside today at least one of those beers that fits kind of that cold weather drinking. What's the Ab be the Amazon Abd? On this one is seven I think seven point two good solid but Nada but not over the top to where one and done kind of thing he can rice sessional ish. especially if it's anything could be sociable if you put your mind absolutely really talk about your kind of history with brewing how'd you. How'd you start brewing? Where was that point that you felt like you know what I can and I can take this to the next kind of step? Bell started out like a lot of folks in Cincinnati and elsewhere started in the garage And Truth be known. I started brewing before I was allowed to consume alcohol. But we won't talk about those digits. There's a few of us that did but those were those were those. I guess they were beer. I mean close your eyes your nose and you know hope for something other than humor. Humor shooting for flavor at that point. So you know kind of evolved. I I had the I had the benefit a brother-in-law who was a microbiologist hd student and happened to Happened to be at Indiana University where I went at same same time we're GONNA PhD so at a guy that propagated yeast for me in college and it was a lot of fun Still Oh going in and out of five gallon pails and graduating glass. Car Boys And on and offer several years Was it was still kind of a focus on Belgian styles. There was it was that kind of what got you started into it or did that come develop over time. I've been kind of it kind of developed over time. I still have an affinity for German style beers. You know they're just they're wondered. You know the German Style Beers they I always say Germans do a lot with very little and they and they make beautiful beers and If I had had a lot of real estate and a lot of lawyering tanks I would be doing that too but you know you who knows we may let me get get a few of those guys do have of Quite a bit of space. Here you have that you can Use absolutely once everything up and running. Absolutely the Hub. When you come into the taproom when you're not seeing the actual brewery side of things which is the site over here right and I still know kind of the rest of the building? How all that is is is laid out and how that works but even just that space you can see if you walk in that back door there is is a good sized base ten thousand square feet it enables Quite quite a bit of growth especially depending on what this is GonNa look like over time and how big and how much sitting beer out to other people you plan on versus. Well we wanted to Gallup You know we're we're we're we're approaching. We're coming into the market a little bit late in the game because you know we aren't were were self financed We you know we bootstrap a lot of things. We Know How to weld those those some of those tanks out there. That thirty barrel. fermenters manners or repurpose few tanks The smaller smaller ones out. There we built from the ground up but We're we're pretty excited. I did about our abilities. Came my background kind of getting back to your original question. Came from your renewable fuels business. We used to manufacture bio-diesel my other life sold all that off. You know decided this old all of them except for some of the things. We don't want those. Yeah no we don't WanNa put we don't WanNa put beer in this But yeah I do have one tank there there from the biodiesel plan that that was a waste water tank so we're hoping to capture wastewater make sure it's good before it goes down the drain You know we. We went through all the environmental issues. You know in having that industrial background so hopefully we can we can put Decent wastewater down give to the city and let them do either thing with it right But Yeah I mean we we've gone around and we've we've procured some great tanks that we can brew beer. And you know some people would call us when we're up and running probably will refer refer to us as a Franken brewery which is okay. Well at one time you know. That was the norm in craft beer. That was the way a lot of the biggest burgers you see. That's the way they got started was kind of that. Same Dairy tanks or whatever they were getting their hands on you. Don't see it as much now. You see people coming coming into it from a different perspective for good or for bad and I think that there is still a lot of value in having the different ends of what it means to to start a brewery beat somebody that comes in for funded and opens in a really fancy Church or something and dumps millions of dollars renovating it. And that's great and I love it but then there's something that has also refreshing in and feels good about a place like this or dividend cheer whoever or maybe that opens at a very different way Any all those things to kind of make a healthy beer community absolutely and and Although we don't WanNa struggle forever we do enjoy the struggle right and you know it takes a certain stubborn individual that keep cranking away at this and We we hope to have everything finished up here in this first quarter of this year at least deb manufacturing some ten barrel batches right finally getting a little bit of a little bit of elbow room in your in everyday's right and because we build everything else You know a lot of the the burris stories that have been helping us We've gotten help from everybody from Orion guys to bring on you know design Rang helped us with some ingredients from time to time but One of the things that I I you know I came from a very competitive industry and to have that that that Cooperation if you will from your you're friendly competitor. It's something I had to get used to it. You really I distrust trust when they go right and certainly why. Why does Haggai want that but Yes it's it's incredibly refreshing And the Cincinnati craft beer scene as as as one of the best in the United States. I it's it's constantly really growing constantly constantly evolving and I think it's it's hard sometimes to To remind yourself how coming from a drinkers drinkers perspective. It's hard to remind yourself how cooperative really is an how. How real some of those things are you know? Sometimes it seems like it's just marketing fluff from people. Olgun say we're all a family and it is a real thing that's happening here and it's it's the longer we can keep that tight in that kind of thing the better off you you know you go to be at Asheville or whatever it is you know you hear a lot of that community talking a lot of the the cooperative side of things. I think it's integral to make a a good healthy beer. Seemed to have that exist as long as possible within that absolutely it's it's alive and well because we we get beer tourist in here and I mean folks from out of town and they've been referred to spy another brewery and we. We tried to do the same Well we're we're there to or guides when they come in here during the year. They're running you know they're they're growing through the samples or having a pile you know You know a lot of times. Ask where you're going next. I don't know what do you suggest in. Will Law make suggestions. Just we're we're sitting here. I think there's probably what ten breweries within twelve minutes of us. Yeah we'll easily once I start to really you think about it. I'm thinking all over the north side of my well. No there's you know if you had back down south there's there's a lot Even mentioned how you know things are growing just a little bit of Trivia. How many breweries do you have opened since you guys opened your doors? Wow Breweries I'm willing to throw into their places that have brewing licenses. So we'll say oh platform and Emberg are in that equation. Even though I do not really count them as breweries but guess twelve ten nowhere. You're you're pretty cool. It's pretty wild. It's you know we when when we look at what's happening in Cincinnati and we look back at years when when measuring Ryan guys on the thirteen thousand fourteen those years there was these big kind of explosions breweries and it's hard to. It's hard to remind remind yourself sometimes that that is still kind of the growth. That's still the amount of areas that are opening every single year. We're getting more and more and more. It's it's crazy to watch it. What happened to watch? How really kind of find their little place in all of that Bill Ready? Yes numbers seven on the tablist. Hapless is our Tempest is what we call it. it is a Noel. Cezanne is going to be less. peppery more multi In Noel Cezanne. What what what does that mean? Okay well for all those. That don't speak French say Siamese seasonal And there are more than one type of Cezanne's out there This is a winner. Say Sign Typically darker multi more on the yester- side. You'RE GONNA get some fruit notes on the finish It was one of the first ever brewed. It's so if somebody put in front of me I would have not have had said. Oh yeah this is. This is a Cezanne because just because of that color I'm used to kind of share that light colored say on this is not that it's a it's a really really pretty kind of Golden Copper Kinda August more copper really pretty beer definitely heavy on those those those Cezanne esters though which which is your favorite I I look at this and on the surface if somebody even if somebody came to me in two hours and asked me Oh do you like those You know kind of Belgians now. I don't really like those. I'm enjoying this though. So maybe maybe I'd do. Just you know in my head. There's still something that makes. We think that I don't but this is good. It's it's one of those. It definitely fits with again. That cold weather drinking. And but it's There's something about that kind of fruity esters kind of thing that that that works outside of that that the standard windows cooled weather drinking beers to absolutely and it has less of that that peppery note that you would come to expect in a you. Know One of those lighter. Cezanne's I feel like this'll be really good With dinner kind of sitting at the table kind of something. That would pair with a whole bunch of food Thanksgiving's something like that. This it would be a great beer to power Thanksgiving dinner absolutely when you order a Turkey right now if we can just a leg each big giant you could hold it your free hand and actually actually feel like big giant Turkey. Legs pair really well with this place. If there is a A Turkey leg food truck that exists I know where you need to stop at. I don't know but we should find one. This is really good the The East definitely kind of It he definitely dominates that that that that that the multi side of things more than I wanted to not in a bad way at all it gets its if anything it actually makes me drink it faster than that I would. Otherwise IT'S A. It's a good kind of Nice drinking beer. What's ABM ABM be on? This one is I'm I'm looking folks at the FBI. Can't I don't commit these two memory Seven appointees so again seven percent one of those Kinda sessional taboo late falls. I'm sorry I'm getting over a horrible cold. That has now just progressed into a cough. That will not go away. Hopefully I'll get all those edited help or the show goes I the last kind of gnarly story my life. I there was a show God has been. It's been a long sometime. We the first time we sat down with Christiane more line where we were down at the Logger House and this was before I kind of took over the hosting and duties of the show so I was kind of in the background. Anyway so it worked but I was in the middle of the flu. It was the whole show is still a blur to me at this point. I can't remember or anything. We talked about anything we did. My poor wife drove me down to the logger. House helped me get everything. Set up just sat there and as the whole time just hitting the sound effects facts and running the board. He needed more craft beer down boost your immunity system. There's there's always plenty of you know I never go way off topic here but I never used to get sick at all until I had a kid and having a kid just destroyed my my ability to live a healthy. A little germ balls that just bring everything into your house and I catch every single thing she she. There'll be times where she doesn't get sick but I know she's still just bringing some kind of germs and giving them today well. Since we're all the topic I understand My wife and I have six children. Oh Lord Yeah So. All my oldest son rely on the buried together but Yeah we've got Six we've got six so those guys what are the. What is the age range? So Paul will be Twenty eight my our daughter. Old's daughter will be about she. He is twenty five and then we have our other son. He's twenty three and then the double whammy. The twins are nineteen gene and then we have a sixteen year old and As I get older I realize I I. Hey teenagers they got a lot of words. It don't make sense at least the back half of all of that but I imagine there's a lot of ages pretty close there together for you guys to that was probably the couple of years was better. Immunity system is very good and I will say this about the kids where where they could help in the whole family helped toll. They're good ages for that now. Absolutely there was plenty of sanding and mopping and painting to do in here. I've talked about this a little bit on the show before but one of the things that gets me really excited about what's happening in beer now that you've got families coming into this like that and you know kids who are are growing up with parents that started a brewery or kids that started a brewery or you know and and as kids grow up and move into they're quote unquote real life More and more and more. You're going to see people that this is the family business or More normal than it was when when when when I was growing up. You know if somebody's GonNa start a brewery it's like oh that's weird but cool whereas now it becomes more and more normal and it's exciting citing deceit generational. You how that's going to change the landscape of of beer in Cincinnati and absolutely. It's cool are you ready to for another beer absolutely number three. Get number three over there. Yes this is a little more golden. Yes it's Belgian Belgian triple. All right here we go another -nother winter beer Belgian triples can be anytime here absolutely. I think you'll like this one. This is a good any time of year beer. Very simple Oh yeah I like that one. I enjoyed that one more than I do. The sesana just because of that. Yeast is a little more subdued. Absolutely that that quote unquote the beer comes out more and a little more. More bussiness comes out in the middle there. Oh that's all right backs it right up. It was eighteen eighteen degrees this morning right. That's right deserve this. There's something about a s especially in like this can come out almost more like a sweetness instead of that that. Bite that you kind of expect from some other styles and it works really well with this woman. Good tasty it is it is. It's a very simple simple one You know we we I'll be honest with you be. I've never brute a Belgian triple until we started homeboy. It's funny and You know I kind of let myself to Cezanne's doubles Gra sets which is kind of lost a loss Belgian in style beer. Ab if it were German beer would be called kinder- beer very aggressive. But we're we're That's one thing we would like to get on the in the taproom at least here early spring. It'd be curious to see what you do with it. And how you kind of. Because I've had a few and I've had very different interpretations of what that means you know that's almost a loss style. Well there's some that I get that are I'm really lean into the Belgian kind of Esther Kenneth Side of things. There are some that there's a whole bunch of adjuncts that are thrown in there and turn into some some other thing. Don't say there's there's some I think guys has one as part of their their power series. I don't know if they've bottled it or anything like that but it's a really really light and really easy drinking and holiday present and about Oh. I don't know what the I don't know what it means. You know. The style is one of those ones now that it has so many things that my head that I don't really know where so be fun to see where you guys kind of my my understanding is it was more of a you know like I said a kinder- Beer Oren easy drinking right table beer. Yeah that You know it'd be used for hands on the farm right a lighter farmhouse light if you will But we're we're we're still researching it and I feel a little bit of pressure when I've never brewed one before so we. We always tried to do the best we can with it. Well I think you guys have a Because you guys have have bruton the things that I've tried. You've got a good base of kind of some ideas of where you could go where you can kind of spin off of some things. Uh Refund Fuzzy Rigo with it absolutely. Let's stay tuned. Let's talk about kind of the future of how you guys where you go. Oh from here. So you mentioned moving into ten barrel batches absolutely That's obviously a big kind of shift for you guys One of the questions that was like to ask people especially early on like this is how how big is too big for for what you want this to be The question is changed a little bit and then as as craft beer has changed around Cincinnati but At what point at what point is too big for for what you want humble monk to to look like well or not small obviously Two barrel batches is a lot of work because we're always at it Two big You know we always wanted to be successful right but we always want to have good beer and I kind of see what other breweries in not necessarily in Cincinnati but other beers United States as they scale up and as they get successful they seem to lose touch with flavor and quality pretty It's more mass produced So it it's got to be a good balance between good quality craft beer versus you know good quality volume kicked out the door. We aren't in any hurry to be big Do you want to be successful. Yes absolutely but what's what's your measure for success being able to solar beers measure for excessive. It Yeah you can sell your beers. Now you've got you've got your beers. People are enjoying them. What is that? What is that? There's gotta be some kind of measuring head and it's not necessarily a monetary thing but what is that necessarily a monetary thing but we need to keep this this kind of flavor even ten barrels. You know it it has to be there it has to be there are customers That people come in. They expect the Belgian style beer. It better be there or something. You Know Matt Fire The head Brew Master but no in serious and I it. The quality has to remain as we scale up. I mean that has to be there. What are what are some of your fears as you guys do keep scaling up and you keep kind of growing says what where the fears with with moving bigger or different friend or Just growing in a market like Cincinnati Because we've started out so small Really losing the personal touch with our market We we're going to strive to keep that as best we can You know is local beer. It's craft beer You know because we started out in the taproom because our beer is only here in the taproom right now. We have a personal connection with a lot of the customers that come in and even though we won't know everyone that is our beer I want them to recognize that. We're our family business. And we want to provide a quality product to them. Where did they take that home to their family? Sound like a commercial. No but but you. It's just you know it has. The quality has to remain the idea that terrifies me if I was creating something that Something something that's a consumable product like beer. The idea of somebody taking that product and leaving here with it or sending the product somewhere in the somebody buying it there and then deputy out of my sight. What's happening with it? Now Alan that experience of it and and maybe somebody stored something badly and maybe somebody somebody you know. There's there's so many factors that go into that can affect that end result of how somebody enjoys the product. That's terrifying. I can't I could never never never run a business like this. Just because of that lack of control I guess it. It just keeps making good quality beer and you'll have have you know you'll have less than anxiety. I guess I don't think I would My oldest daughter who was an intern at altech Lexington Brewery town branch distillery. She ran pretty much social media so we got to see a lot of that because she was kind of on the front line of comments about beer and how she had to respond to those It was kind of neat because as we were you know getting this concept going She was kind of excited about is You know doing this. But he is involved with the business. She's she's going on to bigger and better things but She got that she got that flavor to you know the forefront of some of the problems that altech now called Lexington Brewery. And folks if you don't know who they are. They're the folks that came up with the concept concept of Kentucky Bourbon Ale which really pioneered a lot of the the idea of barely early Djing on a big scale. I don't WanNa say create a barrel aging because they didn't but now they They took it to a new level. That's for sure a fun fact about that The the the brainchild of the Kentucky Bourbon. Al Was Cincinnati guy was meant Mark Phillips who has their head brew master He was also the last remastered chain link. I did not know that yet and I met him on a beer tour which led to my daughter getting an internship. See Beer works works wonders. Speaking of let's get to another be alright We are going to number or yes Tom This was a happy mistake. Some of the The Best Beers are tell me about this moment for happy mistake Being the the boost rappers that we are we purchased a used mill and Yeah so that was supposed to be a Belgian quad so the mill we purchased was a Technically it was a Chinese mill that we bought from a craft brewery in Texas they shipped it up and You know in the used equipment style. We had to dial it. In of course we we were. We were I build the specialty grains grains of this beer and everything crush looked good. We were using the cives you know is one of the first batches I did and and I said okay The crush great is going to do well in the Mash Tun throw the beers green in and we got whole and until no. I didn't notice it but we got hold colonels Malt Mash Tun so obviously we weren't going to get the alcohol we wanted because this was supposed to be like I said a Belgian quad again. It's ever percent beer. I think sevens are lucky number. It's our Belgian amber It has it has. There's A. There's like a nice like Like a bitter something or other going on and they're really really enjoy. What what does that do? When you have whole grains thrown into the mash? Does it just use it. I mean obviously you're not gonNA get the sugar out of it less efficiency but what was the the blessing if you will is that the crush of especially Greens was good because I was checking it and so all we did was back the burs. There's green off and kept duplicating this beer and we've we've actually been hearing this beer from inception of this is the very it's it's just a lot of specialty grain than basically is. Is this something that you could scale up to bigger absolutely absolutely yeah. This is hard we we love this beer. Yeah it's called are abby Number four on the tap right now but yeah. I like this allowed. This is found in other Belgian beer. You like These are all American Beer Sir Belgian style. Yeah Yeah there's whatever that is that that that that bitterness in the background it's good at all team multiple body to this But not like a mega hoppy bitter way. It's like something that's that's that's good. I like that one a lot one of my favorites to see everybody. You know I keep saying that. I don't like Belgian Beers. I think I think I'm foolish while we're trying to change your mind. Consider my mind changed. Changed I don't know and I think that's probably part of the problem with With beer right now. Let's let's drink another one before we get into. That's okay big topic here Number five okay number five. This one looks more like a Like Cezanne Cezanne that I'm familiar with. I get yelled at my daughter for naming this beer. It's called Hayes Goggles. I liked the name to You Know Don confuse it with beer goggles. But if you have a few of these you will have your beer goggles on. You'RE GONNA get a melon note Grapefruit finish it's it's a E- I'm watching him drink it. It's a it's a yeah yep is a New England I It does have lactose in it. So you're GONNA get some honey notes on the finish all done with mosaic cops. Yeah it's got that good mosaic fruit. To me comes off as a like a funky fruit. If that makes sense it's not it's not the big kind of citrus notes that you expect from Sitra or something like that. It's more of like that. Tropical kind of fruity notes and his nails. That it's like a Tiki. You drink absolutely I get non drinkers coming in and Will will coach him into into trying. Just a you know a test drive of it and the next thing you know they're ordering it and here I enjoy this. It's it's not as big Because you get that you know we put lactose in it to give it up more of a creamy battlefield and It's more approachable. By our larger group of Folks Brent not that not that we went to appeal to the masses. But this is a wonderful New England and again this was a happy mistake again and much like much like assaulter. Though you're going to get a group of people come in here and there's that drinker that doesn't want Belgian beer. They want an idea. They want their their whatever that is this kind of fills that void a little. Bit kind of still stays true to kind of who you guys are which is the whole other interesting topic before before we dive into to kind of? What's going on beer right now but which I probably lose my train of thought that and we'll forget about it? The kind you've talked about how you guys manage that balance of who you are as as a brewer and how you you kind of do meet up with some of what people want when they walk into a tap rhumba Seltzer or an idea or what that is. Well we we we. We have to listen to the market to a certain degree otherwise we won't be here But at the same time we want to provide you know like we said earlier a a high quality beer and I think most breweries in Cincinnati are striving for You know our our. Are you know you asked about signature beers. We are always going to be Belgian forward But we're not gonNA ignore the other styles we want to pursue those and provide a you know a a good quality you know New England a good quality. I P A still pursuing that because I'm not a hop guy but will you always keep a quote unquote hoppy beer on tap absolutely. Fill that voice. You'll you know it's it's about thirty percent of the market hit you know we. We can't ignore that You know do I drink copiers. Absolutely you could. Yeah you guys you you especially where you are right here you know. Were feet away from urban artifact who is notorious for kind of giving the Middle Finger to what what trends friends say you should have on tap and kind of doing their own thing if if anybody is going to say you know what we're not going to have an just just big over the top Belgian. That's that's all I WANNA do. That's all I'm doing. You could get away with that to a certain degree and and although you know we we like the satisfaction of customer walking in and being find something they like not say my my great neighbors next door they I mean they hit it out of the park when they do have guessed APPs and stuff and I've seen a lot of PR strength inside that building for the record. My God I don't think that's that's not there there so they always keep Some kind of standard beer for people who come in and don't like sour beer is not. PBR Anymore Narragansett. Right now. Complete Confession here. My first beer ever was pepsi. blue-ribbon I don't have any problem with. I don't have any problem with any any beer. But it managed dry when I I've told drives me crazy to be in a craft brewery and taproom and see somebody with a PBR and their hand. I feel like that's just. There was not a conversation that happened. You didn't try to get them to drink craft beer. That's right and I you know for a long ways I feel that same way about Seltzer. I feel like if somebody comes in and they WANNA drink seltzer. Don't look at it. Should I a couple of finish. That one is the one I have not yet all the way because it seltzer and it bothers me somehow. Like it's it's almost like we're we're we're giving in you know it's a craft seltzer though it has maltin but so we'll use that to kind of springboard back to the topic I was. It's GonNa get to you before that I had to write down to make sure I forget. there's something about and I kind of go to weird extreme with us but when when I walk into a taproom And I look at a tap list especially if I'm just GONNA have a printer to fund drinking a flight. It's a whole different story or if I'm going to be there for a long time it's a whole different story but if I was going to have a couple of beers there are things that I will not order because I look at it and say I don't really love that style be Cezanne Cezanne or whatever it is shirt or Seltzer. You know what whatever it is And I feel like we're getting to a point with craft. We're we're seeing more and more of that two people thinking a certain style or they don't like a certain style or just letting these preconceived notions drive how they order their beer. And I'm curious I'm just. I'm curious your thoughts. Do you think that we're we're getting to this point and craft beer where people are not necessarily trying things as much such as they are just going to their their their normal well we all are creatures of habits having said that In fact I wrote this in my business plan. Craft beer drinkers are like Jelly. Bean eaters. They all like different flavors and I can tell when a jelly bean inner comes in because he'll go or she take New England. I'll take the triple must do a flight and then I go. Okay you are all I ask you know if I'm pouring beer because I do poor beer here like what kind of year do you like. I like all kinds of beer. Go Your my customer dance your question. No I I think see we have the we have our. That would be my answer to if I walked in and before I order beer if if the person behind the bar that will kind of beer do you like as I was surveying the list figure out what to order so I I really kind of everything that would be. How answer it? That's not really true because if I walked in. Say there's two taps you have a Cesar on and you have a Pillsbury. I'm ordering the bills Ner nine times out of ten. I'm going to try to talk but I think you should. But there's a lot of people that that wouldn't I be because I nope that's I I just want the pills are. That's what I want and then just to prevent an argument or whatever over there is going to give you my bills and I go. I want more of those conversations. I want that to happen. especially if you have two taps Portland sample after. I wanted my picture really two taps come on the test drive. It's like hey let me let me give you a test drive this. You might not like it. You might have that face but you know. Let's try to expand your horizons. I wonder I wonder if we drinkers are kind of falling into some kind of trap of not you would think that with as craft beer growing the way it is where we will get more and more adventure. We'd be trying more things and for some reason I just feel like we're starting to drift the other way. When when your craft brewery with the Seltzer on tap maybe not a craft seltzer? Maybe something you know specifically you guys. But I'm saying if somebody walks in and it's a it's a it's a capitalist were you have. Maybe you've got a light berliner with some fruit and you've got to pills Nouri Berliner with a little fruit and then somebody comes in and they wanted to Seltzer like I want that conversation to still exist. Why why is that? What you're ordering and to kind of push people to something else you know or or maybe don't have the Seltzer around tapping the ask for it? Let that the conversation to why. Why why why is that what you're ordering what do you like? What do you not like? Let's let's let's let's. Let's have things happen here that that conversation happens here all the time because we're still exploring We're new we're young looking back on it you know Belgian style beers are the first crap years you know the the the Belgians. That's a really good way to put it in. The Belgians pushed add chunks Again I kind of said earlier that you know I tried to lock the spice cabinet because you know I want it that purists Belgian style beer not say we won't open the spice cabinet for a beer but having having said that you know getting back to your original question. We'd like to push that here. You know what what what do you like. Okay I like them all I I drink all styles And you know we like to offer folks you know on an opportunity to try something out of their comfort for town and My wife who sports a lot of beer. She's very good at it and She'll talk folks in getting out of their comfort zone getting out of that box. There's there's like a curiosity to me like I want. I want my beer spot that I that I I go to to be the kind of place where I walk in and I maybe I order a flight maybe I order just ab or whatever it is. I want that person behind the bar to take the one beer. That was the bottom of my list and convince me to try and talk about it with me and then maybe start a conversation with people around me they might be drinking career. And why don't you like this and I want that. I want to be challenged constantly about things and I don't feel like we're challenging each other a lot well and and one of the things one of my pet peeves I walk into a brewery in you know as they get more successful we get employees involved in that translation is lost but to talk about craft beer. You know the talk about the for the flavor profiles to talk about the hops and be able to convey that to the customer Especially folks that like to drink different styles of craft beer. That's going to give them more information to make choices and maybe get out of their comfort zone. Hake AAC hop out of the box. Don't drink don't drink. IPO time try our trier pater but but there are times where you will form form an opinion on things that you'll later find out as wrong. You don't like Belgium beer. That doesn't necessarily mean you don't like Belgium beer in my case or SIMCOE hops Simcoe hops. Like sometimes I hate them. I hate them. I I can't stand that flavor but then there is something that other times can be done with them and I don't I don't know what it is in my head. I don't know what that sciences that makes them. Sometimes it tastes amazing. You Know I. I don't know what that is. But if I walk doc into brewery and I see that there's a Simcoe I I'm not gonNA order it. I'M GONNA pass it up for something else and I want to be challenged sometimes be published forced to order and I don't know if I'm normal or weird or what no no I just went always challenged and You know as a craft beer connoisseur. You should be challenged. The normal customer should be challenged highly. How are we challenge ourselves? Like what is the. What can we do? let's let's drink another beer before getting back shirt number six. I got to look on the board. That's our should've taken a picture of the boards that I could have had a cheat sheet. This is a little me marketing This is our I refer to. The name is nodding blossom It's an imperial APA It's a homebrew recipe. Nodding blossom nodding blossom. Notting part. Comes if you drink too. Many good idea little balanced I got by imperial means a lot of different things east his shirt and this is that good kind of older older school. Imperial I'm Kinda got the it's got the the body behind it. It's not all just tons and tons of hops over the top and then no no new balance to it because he's balance but big AV We are at sorry I have to look at the Good good news is customer and the way I can't see I'm GonNa say I'm GonNa say it's it's getting up there towards towards nine. I think it's eight eight point seven five good. I am while you taken that up to. It's it's good. It's it's a big. I don't know if I can say big balls EP. or any of that's a socially right or wrong but this goodness gutsy beer. This kind of gutsy makes it feel like it's a risky like a big kind of Got But spa there you go. I like that something behind it. It's it's big and bold and it's not a Belgium. It's it's definitely a good American. The American Double Life you came from the garage. It's good I like it Also Trivia another one of those styles that I just. I don't really kind of lean towards at all anymore is kind of those big kind of Ip as and stuff. I feel like it's been done so many time has but it's got to be there it and and this we love this formula. It's it's is tried and true. We'll explore other things but again kind of getting back to that little two barrel system it allows us to take risks that you couldn't take on ten barrel barrel. What hops you guys us on the phone I? I sincerely apologize. I can't remember their definitely. Big Kinda American there are there is some simcoe in there. I don't I don't get the same kind so it's not bad. Some there is mosaic. In there I do remember that. Yeah I'm not that good that I can pick out hops but it's I mean it's almost there almost got the the whole It's it's not Super Danke but it's it's it's bitter citrus fruity Flora has some slow like if you if you the floral side of it to me. He is like a floral. It's hard for me on a on a big WNBA because It's like flowers with biceps or something like that. Yeah florals foils definitely the right word but it doesn't really kind of convey what does it. It's a good beer. I like all thank you Again I like the balance I like. I like body behind everything else. That's happening in this way that this last month before we run out of time here by run out of time like the Internet's that's GonNa kick as well okay. Well he talking about A different style. Oh yeah this was on Nitro. I think the NITRO evaporated. But you know here we are talking. We took a normal. Smells like Maple Syrup Yeah you're going to get that this is our pancake border You know if you have if you have a slice of Bacon in your wallet you might want to get that out right now It will have some finish little late in the day. The my slice of Bacon never lasts all day. It goes well. That's that's how I got my wife to marry me. I hung bake it around my neck. I think that's how my wife got me to marry her. Everything goes good with Bacon There are some subtle butternut. You're not on the finish It is are paying border. That's good good winner beer. It's not A. He said this this was on Nitro. It was so it doesn't have that that bite within a lot of a lot of stoute's and things like that have it's really creamy. Really smooth really probably dangerously easy drinking it. Is You definitely get that. That maple really really really fastened off the top of it but then afterwards it kind of start to pick out you know some of those those buttery Kinda bready cannot enough levers that can write them through and then You know just a just a slight rose note from the porter at the end I. This was almost a parody beard. Well there's a lot of big big pastries doubts and things that are happening right now. This is not not this is not that this is definitely still again kind of fits in with everything else. That's happening here. It doesn't stand out really. Oh this is is just a a cheesy patriots out to to exist to exist. This still fits the theme of you guys are all thank McKenna. I didn't go over the top. No but again it goes back to that like I. Don't you know that's the hard kind of line to tread. Sometimes Times it is not a topic is obviously people like over the top of people like that in your face thing but well we didn't. We didn't dump any any frosted flakes in the secondary. That day I walk in here and then guys are standing on a ladder with a big giant tub of like lucky arms or something I will call you out. What if we give you the the the prize as in the bottom of Brazil of anymore myself folks? That's the only thing that still gives you prizes crackerjack Eker Jack Idea. We'll know so. Braxton I did nine hundred fifty seven English. Mild eld which tastes surprisingly crackerjack. When you eat it with crackerjack that was kind of how they presented it they they did it for the beginning of the The baseball season and served it with a box of cracker nice So you've got they'd get a prize. But I will say this about Braxton brewing. They are the masters of marketing. The they they make really really damn good beer to yes they do. Yes they They are definitely towards the top of my list of places. This is that Just have just insane skill on the broody. So yes they do yes they do. Don't don't forget about Braxton labs that's that's one of my favorite tomorrow the Tiki beer but I'm just dying yet my hands on I don't think it's a Tiki milkshake. It's just eight. TIKI berliner gets. I'm excited about that. What gets you excited right now? It's what's happening around you not here. But other places around that kind of get excited about Cincinnati Beer I'd like to get out and since I've had my head down here for about two years I'd like to get out and see some new breweries right. I mean honestly I I hear that story from every brewery haven't been anywhere. Yeah well it's crazy. I mean You know I go twelve minutes to the north. I poked my head in at Brink. Great Guys Kelly's what a great guy Again Dan you know. I've been doing field trips on the scale because we are a drapery and so we are going to engineer and build our own brew House Right. Come and see what hillbillies released from Indiana and Kentucky can do folks but You know we're we're I'm heading wooden casks ask on Friday. I will give them randy and Karen huge huge shoutout for how they managed that whole side of things of of of getting places they make a date night once a week to go to a brewery Yup and once a week they go somewhere that they haven't been or haven't been to in a long Ktar and they have been to every re at this point I make sure they hit a long. Yeah Randy's huge credit to them there he's a wonderful guy Always willing to take phone. Call answer my my ignorant questions if you will If it wasn't for Randy we wouldn't be sitting here talking. Yeah because a little sidebar trivia note we we We had a church festival over in Northern Kentucky Randy was is that River town at the time and my wife was running around with my Brunette Tang pitcher that the kids drank out of on Sundays and she walked up I. I grabbed randy because I saw the bomber T. shirt which was one of my favorite beers at the time and I said Hey. Where'd you get T shirt and he goes You can get them at the brewery a you know very very humble didn't say hey I'm one of the owners. I wanted to brewers Blah Blah Blah. He said he's still. Is that way. Yes yes yes I was somewhere and was talking to him and somebody walked up almost talking about wooden spear and he started kind of answering on their questions. And then the Oh do you. Do you work for them. Yeah so I My wife Alicia walks up with a pitcher my homebrew and she goes. You want some. And she's talking to me and I got of course. She pours in a Red Solo Cup. You know that's the Kentucky tradition right so I live in Fairfield I jungle gyms. That's our tradition too so She pours one in Randy. Kind of looks. Can I at one of those and I I think he had five or six that night and he goes. Can I have the recipe to this. I said I'd hang onto. He says well you opened a brewery randy. We opened a brewery. It's fun and seeing how all of those things tied together and Just keep creating sure thing that we we all get to enjoy now. It's a community. It's it's You know. Cincinnati has always had a rich history of a beer. And you know we should be recognized more for it we haven't been in the past You know all the German immigrants that came here and and tunneled into the hills fray literally emmy literally. It'd be haven't been down into a tunnel. Folks need to go because it just the work that went into coming up absolutely to me. That's the perfect opportunity. Tapie I know that the the the brewery district has lots of towards stuff during bock fest and it's so much fun to take your tour our end underneath more line. You come up from underground and as you're walking out of these logging tunnels you're in a modern craft burry and he get handed to be your ticket and you can go get a big thing a bock beer and like it's just it's the perfect representation of what beer in Cincinnati was an is an can be and manage it. It'll it'll get you excited about things that's for sure. About what what we lost but I did Zia stat and I talked about this on either this show or the weekly pint which is my live stream on Mondays. If you guys don't know about that talking about how we finally hit that number where we finally surpassed how much beer was drunk. Pre prohibition now we're finally back to that number number of how much beer we consume as a country so well. NO WE'RE BACK MILWAUKEE SAINT LOUIS. You're not as good as we are. Ah I definitely think that that was the case. Then I definitely think case now. I'm sure they would disagree. But if you are a Milwaukee walkie where Saint Louis Beer podcast feel free to send an email or you can call. We have the drug line. Five six seven seventy drink which. I don't know what those numbers are. Hang on. I'm trying to look it up really quick. Five six seven seven zero three seven four six six five. You can call with all of your complaints and concerns and I will tell you why we are the best beer city in the country you can also email so if you have any questions or comments Cynthia bureau Gaza gmail.com Yeah thank you very much. You're more than welcome. You WanNa go. let's try a couple more. We can do that. Take our headsets off. Thank you so much. Shovel the stuff in the corner and go drink some. Actually my wife brought US popcorn. I Dunno shit did bring by where we don't want to crunch the microphone though but it would it would have been kind of It would be kinda funny wasn't it. We did we did a show. Pretty early on with chef. Tony Firm Bruce Eddie. Sausage and he came into the studio at the time the studio and grilled out on the patio. It was cold outside. And he's out there on the patio grill beer brats while we're making Michelle. And then the whole show or eating is beer on the microphones and the laws and the add mustard on a microphone with changed the film windscreens on the head since. Thank you very much If you have not been among long you guys are. What is the address here? SIXTEEN FORTY ONE ST. So just catty-cornered Kitty Corner. However you say it wherever you're from from urban artifacts you can find it the the big humble mantra painted right on the side of the building? It's it's delicious at post Blinks since he broke voices two craft.

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Bees and Brews with Steady Hand Beer Co.

"This episode and every episode of the beer guy's radio show is brought to you by ironmonger brewing visit ironmonger taproom in marietta georgia or online at ironmonger brewing dot com. Opened up a tab. Grab a seat and pour a pint. It's time for the beer. Guy's radio show or free beer brewery dedicated to the art science and enjoyment of craft beer. What's wrong with the we got now. Here are your host tim. Dennis and brian hewitt and welcome to the beer. Guy's radio show. We are broadcasting for the beer guy's radio studios in marietta georgia and this week. We're talking with steady hand beer company. I am tim denison with me. Is always as my good friend and co host. Brian hewitt hey. Tim joining us today. We have brian sullivan. A founder end the brew master of steady hand brew beer company. We're gonna talk about flower business. Especially the tangerine variety beer collaborations for good cause are in de beer. And who knows. Maybe we'll even get to like mushroom. Foraging as you as you do. Yeah ryan thanks for joining us. Yeah i'll be happy. He foraging. It's all the buzz. All the good stuff brian. How're you doing sir. I'm doing good. I'm happy to be here. This guys let me come. Hang out we. Did you brought beer. So we're good. You're always bring. yes gets you through the door. Yeah so you. You knew the cost of admission when you came over here. It's a so we're good with that. Yeah man so we're actually sipping one of your beers right now. We are into your confirm humanity. A foggy lager. What's a foggy lager. So this is kind of a hybrid style. Between some of the aromatic and chris kind of finish of a logger. So there's a little bit wheat in there that kind of throws his taste your hayes and Yeah you know i. I didn't want the bitterness or anything to linger Just wanted some hopper. Maddox going boost those A little bit of sitra in there and then let it finish clean. Let it to yeah. It's cleaning. You've got the hoppy flavor there so i dig it man. I dig it. Well we'd be seeing more. Foggy loggers or i hope so. Okay i wanna see you might as well right. Absolutely triple foggy. Logger confirmed humanity is at like turing test. Kind of thing but for beer. Yeah yeah you know. I can always websites and the next stage if you can confirm your humanity if you're not a robot i'm gonna release this during this cove world because we had confirmed me. I'm still not sure to be quite honest with right so about yourself or about about humanity janet. Okay as a generality. I think that we're all robots. Yeah okay. yeah well. I mean we all know. Birds aren't real. Oh the robot surveillance machines so yadda. Brian anything interesting. This week. man exciting beers or events or anything Let's see what have we got on. Yes saturday we are releasing a special version of our lager for the pediatric tumor foundation. Colour starry night event so daylight different lanterns depending on It's really for the families of kids going through Pediatric brain cancer. And it's a it's a brutal situation right and it's a lot of the stuff going on with you know charities and general covid situation and get some good perspective like somebody's got worse than we do shark died and i saw you guys work with futures and we'll definitely talk about that more as we as we get into. Thanks cool stuff. There absolutely brian. How your weeks sir. you know. it wasn't terribly eventful. I cut cut loose last week. Because i had some time off between day job projects. I was kind of tame this week. I got into a couple of interesting things. Went through the cellar. Got it bells. Concentrator d'appel bach from two thousand thirteen. A seven-year-old dapo kent. It was still pretty good. I still taste the stuff in there. That reminded me of how much i liked it. it develops some little little oxidation with time. So's not a hundred percent but man back in the day. I love aca play. Okay and a d'appel box. A little bit isn't bad. It wasn't bad honestly. I think has served it to myself a little too warm. I think that when you need a just a touch more. I went a a seller temperature. Mike need a little a little more. Chill bomb i mean. There's that did a little bit of Drinking over here at the ironmonger. October fest here very editor. So they had that going on and yes some studio hanging up some beer. She'll lick it you know. We usually run around on saturdays. Was sometimes you like you know. I don't like running around. I'm just gonna sit around. So we we crack some beers and we played some cards and kinda hung out this. You know this past week and just took it easy there but did you get out and do some. I figured out a little bit. So i had some family coming through town. They were going up going up to vacation in the mountains in they drove through atlanta. We met up actually at the the battery were the the braves stadium is true as park now. Used to be suntrust park when we met up there and then it was actually the first game of the playoffs there so they had If you've never been to the stadium atlanta we've got the battery that surrounds the stadium. That's live work player. It's a really cool spot. They have a huge green area. They're big open green area and like a wide screen tv and so it was packed out people watching the game. You know watching the braves and we went to terrapin taproom. That's right there at the ballpark. And they've got patio and then they've got the sliding doors that open up so really the whole restaurant kind of becomes open air and it was a gorgeous day so we had some beer and barbecue and beer barbecue in baseball brian. It sounds good. Yeah yeah we did so. It was a really nice time. There had a good time with it so that that was about it just hung out with family other than the you know the other stuff. I had a los bravo from terrapin. That was really really nice. Easy drinking lager. So great you know tim. I think it's time for us to get into the of the week. Now it's time for our beer's a week brought to you by the net craft beer and barbecue and downtown kennesaw georgia. The nest kennesaw dot com. Well brian has always. We've got great lot of beer drinker. Steady hand hooked us up. Brian thank you again man. We've got to go through here. We'll do our best to drink all of these. All forty eight i. That's what i expect where you get out there so but if you we're going to get into. We're going to get into kind of their flagship with the cloud land. Yeah if you if you had when you had to call a flagship it's becoming that. Okay for sure. Yeah so the cloud land hazy will get into that also do the circles of the sun which is their blonde stout right and barossa. Am i saying that karate year. Also which is an apple and quince sour right and we are the first people outside of the breed tastes beers. Outright it's not even twenty four hours old. I'm i'm privileged man. We are privileged. Brian ackley because he could time. So yeah there's a few others we've got their. Your version of the black is beautiful. We've got the bearded did for the ovarian cancer research and a couple of things. So we've got plenty to drink absolutely indeed. Brian hewitt what's happening this week in the news. What's in the news. The beer guys have the scoop time for headlines okay. Unquestionably my favorite beer. News of the week is saturday night. Lives sam adams. Pumpkin ale sketch. It's basically a parody commercials for sam adams where quote real. Bostonians sample jack. Pumpkin ale and all seemed to go well until comedian bill. Burr samples the beer. And of course he has some choice. Negative things to say about that. That's before he gets into a fight with his son in the middle of the grocery store. As of the last time. I checked video. Clip has two and a half million views which includes the people from sam adams who have since re tweeted the video to their followers. So they're on board with that you know. I was watching tv today. And i saw sam adams commercial that actually i guess it's the real boss stony thing. I guess that is a thing that they do in. This guy was sitting in his driveway talking. You know these boston accent. Talking about sam adams beer. Okay this was. This was a good parody of the whole theme as a lot of places so so according to brew bound ball corp is reporting a ten billion can shortage in the us this year so we knew there were shortages. Now we have a solid number. This is of course due to the increasing popularity of cancer particularly driven by the dramatic drop in cake sales due to on premise venues shutdowns. That number is equivalent to nine percent of two thousand nineteen can sales and it's not likely soon as canned beer. Sales are expected to increase four to six percent through twenty twenty-five ab inbev coke and pepsi likely to weather the shortage well but most incor- sam adams and everybody else on the way down is probably going to feel the pinch coming all the big hoax going to get their cans. Man co absolutely their coq. Ab inbev an update. On the surly situation we talked about this before and despite all the drama surrounding it and the outrage surly employees voted not to unionize fifty six to twenty unfortunate looks like surly still plans to close their beer hall on november seconds citing losses of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars if they stayed open through the end of the year man. They've kind of have to continue to close because if they were if they were to go in there and say after the vote. No to a union like you know what look. We didn't know that we found somebody in the couch coach. that's right. we found some money in the couch cushions. We can keep this open but surprising that it was that big of a margin it really. Was it out there. I thought it was just a done deal. But yes one hundred and fifty thousand couches. They found it that crazy stuff. So it's officially stout season again. Well okay it's always stout season but the borough black tuesday is returning once again october. Twenty seventh looks like the annual behemoth is clocking in nineteen point three percent this year. Ab if you're so inclined you can buy up to six seven hundred and fifty m l. bottles that day for thirty two dollars each or you can grab a couple of sixteen ounce cans for nineteen dollars a piece you know. I'm not really sure what. I think about black tuesday in a can to be honest. What's the ppo on that. Brian did you do you. You should be able to do this. Office nineteen thousand sixteen ounces. Yes it's more than a it's more than a dollar. An ounce dollar and ten sensor five cents announced maybe. It's i got a calculator. You keep talking. I'll still there so. I think that i think black tuesday needs to be seven fifty if any beer needs to be in a seven fifty. It should be black. Tuesday that's a. That's a festive occasion beer. It needs to be in a large form. The ppo and that is one dollar in nineteen cents. Okay that's heavy. Ppo you're listening to bear guy's radio show. We are going to take a break but we'll be back very soon to talk with steady hand beer company. Have you ever thought about owning your own brewery. But don't know what it takes to get one bill. We're storytime construction. And we build breweries. Were door most experience in hands on contractors when it comes to building new breweries and taverns or expanding existing grease offer full buildouts remodeling in addition as low as consulting and construction management. Give us a call at seven. 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For sharing your beers we are now into your. Is that gocha gocha. Ovarian cancer lines this ovarian cancer. Beer cool man. Good talk about. Because i shared with you before the show. I lost my mother still in cancer. So this is something. That's important to me and i know the research when my mom passed away. She was forty three. This was back in ninety two ninety. Two and i remember the time there was some experimental drugs that they weren't approved for use and i've heard that the time they thought they were. You know fairly miraculous but you know it's important to keep that research going man. Do you know the ice bucket. Challenge that i man you know what i start telling the story. Forget the punch line too. But the bottom line is they had a breakthrough because of the funds raised from that. Did they seriously. Oh have no idea this this month this is important. I'll look that up at our during our next break so i can share that a little bit more but it's important to keep funds going research gone these kinds of things man. So how did you connect up with the georgia ovarian cancer alliance so we got introduced to the to the guys who who run it. It really came about as they do a huge gala event every year a big fundraiser for them and It's a bunch of chefs that get together to cook for this event and so we hosted the chefs at our brewery. last fall. As kind of a thank you event for for them kinda let them have some beers and you know they're doing this all Given their free time and creativity to make this thing happen and then the whole cova thing happened and they had to cancel their galileo. Okay you know and it was kind of like a. How can we help out you know. And it's it's we make right so this is a huge money maker for them or anything like that and it's really just how. How can we use. What little leverage we've got to offer some awareness to get in front of someone who they could take a look at the symptoms and they get a hold of like catching the disease before all worth it right. That's i mean with any cancer early detection so important you know the size to look out for getting there but we'll put in our show notes on our website. We'll put a link to them to make sure you know the people get out. There does the qr code. Go to their website or okay so it's on the can right so she grabs this. Just scan the code. Make it nice and these are making a comeback. They are out that recently. Yeah silver lining to the pandemic or. I dunno whatever you think about that. What's bringing them back. I i think so because that's where all the menus are coming your table millions. It's all qr codes Brian steady hand beer company. So the name comes from an old motto steady hand of victory. Yeah that sounds powerful man. What exactly does that mean. So you know it's it comes from the sixteenth century ireland. My brother and i are business. Partners are family traces back to accelerate west ireland to cork area and that was the old battlecry of the family. Right it is this is like medieval warfare type of thing. But you know for us now. It's kind of holding true to our ideals and the things that we care about the things that we want to do as far as beer goes and it's really just kind of holding onto the quality and you know really honing your craft and making that the biggest focus on we've twisted a little bit. I was wondering how long ago steady hand became an idea. Because as i was doing our research for the show i found were. We traded some facebook messages. Back in two thousand sixteen. Yeah kinda in that. And i noticed your facebook page was created in two thousand and thirteen. Yeah so was that the. The birth of the idea was around two thousand thirteen. Yeah two thousand thirteen to fifteen around that age kind of like. I moved down here from wisconsin in twenty fifteen to get the burri started and i was brewing in in northern wisconsin. And i was just tired of winter. You know i lived in snow and get it right. It's manager is what brought you both. Because you're both midwest right. My brother were both out. What brought what made you decide. Atlanta was the place to be. Yeah i so i. My brother lived here ten years before i moved here. You know and i we'd come to visit and it was always looking around and you know he'd being a beer person in being in the beer industry. Let's check out the local breweries. And i remember going to sweetwater and couple of other places on like what is this tour business backwards. I'd forgot about those men and it wasn't that long ago. Yeah yeah and. I can't get a full beer. But you're giving me a pint glass kind of looked into it and i'm like well you got thousands of people moving here from everywhere in the country and everyone's got a taste for beer and they want to replicate some of those experiences. They've had of where they come from. So i was like well. Let's get in now. These laws are going to change. You know people are going to evolve so speaker that the laws changed as you guys were in process because when we originally talked you guys were looking. I think maybe a smaller location up in roswell so how did that impact with the laws changing as you were in motion there. How did that impact your plans. And and what you did with your brewery so it was interesting. We looked around at monday night and a few other ones. Like you know all right to make it in the georgia market. You got a thirty barrel system. You better be ready to do volume the law change in twenty seventeen and she's like well. You could make a viable option for a ten barrel system selling across the bar. And i still went with a thirty. Because i'm kind of like well. If i can fill it with the ten i should be able to fill it with a thirty right so i'm glad i got the equipment that we did. We had an getting it used from a buddy of mine in colorado who i used to work with In san francisco area. And you know. I've been super happy with it but we also kind of were a little hesitant right because it was like. There was rumors of the law changing but i didn't want to give up on that equipment in like those things had failed in the past right so we like maybe they change moves. They don't so. And it's and you really especially in georgia. And i imagine this has become true anywhere. You wanna bail. You want to be where the magic happens because man. They'll shelter crowded. They're crowded than it's it's really hard you know especially if you go outside of your home area young not to get noticed. There's some really popular beers here that i've heard of them launching in other states and they just they said on shells because the local choice local choicer so interestingly some of the larger bruiser expanding their. They've gone away from some of their models to going into putting like little local tap room's to get in gender that local spirit that local feeling. So they're they're servicing. Those people in a smaller area instead of just going with a giant. Push into a state so right about that over the past couple of years considering. How the industry's change. Of course everything is different with the damn yes. Oh and for those. That aren't aware the laws and stuff that we're checking talking about in the tours that you were talking about. It was back in two thousand fifteen. We had a small change in the two thousand seventeen but used to be in georgia. You can only do a tour and tasting what was it. Thirty two ounces. Thirty six thirty six thirty six ounces. That you get a samples and it had to be free. They could sell you that pint glass right. But that's it you know. We couldn't do any direct sales that and then in two thousand fifteen at changed where they could sell the souvenir packages so kind of an interim thing there and then in two thousand seventeen. We finally got the actual direct sales. And we were looking. I think we've got what we say. Hundred twenty four hundred and forty four burris across an eight hundred three hundred forty tripled since two thousand fifteen timeframe there and You know there are a lot of bruiser. Having great success on sales directly from their tapper got sound so from anybody outside the state. You had to do what sell beer. So many people i mean. We're one of few that. Have these the weird law like that. You have bars in your state bars. And i just couldn't buy beer at the place that makes them you know we're laws everywhere. Though man. sure enough. I heard that in addition to brewing. Before this you actually were chef for a while. Yeah yeah yeah. I wanna culinary school out professional chef for ten years before fully making beer my career area. So why did you go from food. Just narrowing it down to just beer because beer is kind of a subset of just shopping. In general yes. It is in a way i used to make food for people. Now i make food for yeast right and then and still feeding feeding stuff. You know in cooking and brewing are roughly the same. So i take a chef approach to to how i i cook and start very much either they. They'll will eat any kind of sugar you put in front of him absolutely and they can be your best friend. You treat them right. You know they'll take care of you will complain. You'll know it when you pick the cloud. That's a good point but at least it won't be on yelp yeah. I didn't get a free whatever with this. I'm like don't they know who i am. I'm famous on instagram. Come on and he's cooler background did you. Why didn't you guys like put. A restaurant is their plans maybe to get a restaurant in restaurants in the hospitality world is in my blood. I would probably maybe think about that. One point i think initially i was kind of jaded on you. Know in two thousand nine. The san francisco area. You couldn't give away fine. Dining super tough so i pretty much pivoted to getting into beer. Which i'd been a home brewer. For like fourteen years before actually became a professional brewers so it was kind of a cool transition for me. Okay good stuff. We listen to the beer. Guy's radio show. We do need to take a break. But we'll be back very soon to talk more with steady hand. Beer copy you know. We love good. Beer and athletic brewing makes non alcoholic. Beer stands shoulder to shoulder with their boozy brethren with a fraction of the calories and certified organic. It's a great beer to enjoy anytime. Athletics got new bruise. Like serve as a athletic a just in time for summer. 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Wb q ninety three point seven fm in brunswick georgia catch beer guy's radio on wb q. Oh every sunday at one pm local time now. Let's get back to steady hand beer company. Brian we're going to talk to you more about sitting hand but i made a promise in the last segment that i want to fulfil real quick. We talked about the ice bucket challenge. So we did look up that information there. Says by percentage sixty seven percent of all funds went to research. They said that's about seventy seven million dollars They give some other breakdowns there. But the big thing is I was incorrect. They haven't had a breakthrough but they said it extremely accelerated the a research for ls more funding to projects. More research happening More dollars leveraged and they said that researches say they're getting closer to a breakthrough so sounds like they've made progress and the ice bucket challenge healthman so good stuff like if they haven't found a cure they found things that they didn't know didn't work didn't work working towards that might work so that's a good thing. Yeah yeah we're gonna jump into a crazy topic here. how about. We talk about bees and mushrooms. Yeah these two things. So i saw you have a hive at the brewery correct. We do. yeah have you got. Have you brewed with with honey from your hive yet. No we haven't so a lot of people have a quarantine hollywood. Sure sure we didn't quarantine or anything. But i still picked up a hobby. And that's beekeeping. Okay so that's actually one of our kind of charitable partnerships. A has this Charity for vets with ptsd and he teaches them to become beekeepers. Honey operation or do kinda an at grant sorta farming kind of thing So he did a wild capture of these bs gave me this hive and i thought he was going to run it and he was like no dude. It's all you your. This is yours now. You're now biki. I'm a beekeeper. So i got the little smoker out there and you know i'm keeping after these bs. I feed him every week in and check on them. And how what you feed them. I give him sugar water okay. That's i wondered if that was this. What they're pulling out of. The plants is next sugar water so we. We installed the high the mid march of march and april. They're going out and they're getting flowers so i don't need to feed them throughout the summer. I give him sugar water every saturday. Dube's harbor nader go dormant or anything. So i just found this out. They apparently get into the high in a giant ball. And they all hang out for warmth. Okay and they feed on their food storage for the winter. I've heard that when they're doing you take it to make beer with your time. We'll put some honey. I'll leave half for the b.'s. Cole and keep the have going now. How many highs do you have to have before. It becomes an apiary because brandon. They're both really like the word apiary. I think one okay so you have an apiary. That's the way we're going to refer to it. Yeah i want to reiterate my disappointment. There are no a single one. So how much honey are they producing. Is that something you can collect or do you have to wait and do some sort of honeycomb harvest. I don't know how anybody else. So the springtime will will harvest the cones. Were kinda spin it and you know kind of filter it out a little bit. We expect to get about one hundred pounds of honey in the spring. Okay so that'll be enough to do a beer. And then some of the proceeds of the beer will go back to my buddy. Tim's jared so. It's doc's healing hives. That's up north in there you know. He's doing a lot of educational programs and it's just all around good stuff that he does you know you talked about him. Teaching that to people with ptsd. That seems like a really chill hobby. If as long as you don't get stung right saying i think that's the big driving force behind what is trying to do is give people a calming in a in a peaceful way to to make a living and do something beneficial because we we need bees for agriculture brian. I make an agricultural product. So we're you know we're trying to close the loop and learn a little about where our food system comes from now. I saw on. Brian's least-favoured app in the world tiktok. There's this lady in florida. That's a beekeeper. And she does be rescues and all this stuff but she's a pretty attractive lady so people watch our videos because and but she's like going in there with no guard on her anything just like picking up masses of bees and it makes it look like unless you really provoke these things. Honeybees are pretty chill. So they you know it's like look you have to know you don't wanna do this or that but you can get in their hive and do this and move around and pretty much just going gonna keep doing beast off as long as you know you know vocal right for sure. I mean they smell your fear right. So if you're chill. They're pretty chill. The only caveat is you don't walk in front of the right hand side of the highest really. Why is that. i made that mistake and also don't wear black. They think you're a bear. Oh not area all right. So i got times that i made that mistake once and i put the suit on or white right. It's not a bear. I am not a base wake. Who got away with eating all that honey. Because he's not a blackberry. Very beige very bright fairbury. Yeah that's how we get away with. We're learning these are not very smart. But i'm gonna. I do enjoy wearing black. I would get eaten alive. I think i do up in front of the right side of the hive. Yes so that's their entrance exit end already cool to sit there and just gonna watch them do their thing so they have this little flight pattern. They leave the hive and they return to the same spot. And you'll see a few bees that kind of hanging around the front of the hyphen. they're the newbies that were born. There still learning how to fly. So they'll sit there and watch the other bees until they figure out the flight pattern than they joined the group and it's just this constant working thing where they're making. They're making bs a you. Stay out of their road. There highway of india is long as you do that. They're cool with you right. Yeah in greg honey no deal. Don't mess with program. And they know better than i do. I sprinkle cinnamon to keep the answer away. Feed him sugar and let them do their thing. Okay you know. I've seen different documentaries on bees and other insects and it really is amazing. The society that they have the things that go there. I've seen the bees before like one time giant wasp got in a hive and it. It kicked one bs but in a soon as it like hurt this other be there like a ball on that. Wash just ganging up on them and i saw another thing with ants you you mentioned keeping the away from but it was two different species of ants like a smaller like red ant in these big black ants but they were both working in the same area and they both made these lines of likely joined arm and arm watching each other like you. Don't cry like these lines are looking at each other and behind them. All the workers are doing their thing. It's it's amazing that these little insects tarizi exactly. Dmz there. well you know what we mentioned russia's before and i am fascinated with mushrooms. Know very little about them other than my wife likes to bring them home and cook them a lot. And i like to eat them so i've heard good things about them. Do you go out. Foraging lot in georgia. Mostly for sean throws okay. We make a couple of mushroom beers to we. Were going to ask if you. Yeah which which beers what. We did an apricot and sean. Terrell beer landfall interesting So when you smell fresh on terrell's just about the pick them. They have this beautiful apricot kind of perfume. So i mean you only issue with rouses cleaning them you know they're giant pain to get all the little bits out of their flavors amazing. We do another one but supporter with candy cap mushrooms. They smell like warm maple syrup sta beautiful aroma. Barnsley had no idea that mushrooms had these different. I mean i eat mushrooms. The ones that i know are portobellos. You know just the white button mushrooms and then arouse you forge morales i do. Yeah we want you to show us saw your spot shot. It's going to happen. I was to ask him super protective of your spots. Or can we get a little market amount of her. Yeah you know growing up in the mid west. My grandparents were big mushroom hunters you know. And it's a the everyone has their own little signs right in the forest to be like this is growing by this date. Then you're good. You know the mushrooms around here and there's some mythic lore type around that's the beauty of it right and it's funny like i'm kind of like well if you're willing to spend the day with me i'll show you where he'd been okay 'cause they move right and it's they have their own mind you know. I've looked up information like the places where they are likely to be found. But i haven't got out night. You know had a buddy that posted a thing where he got. A huge hall of lex tomasson was like dude. That looks great. I'd love to go with you sometime in harm. Somebody just laughed at showing people right yes. They're highly guarded there for sure. Well before we end the segments a barrosa were drinking this. We've been drinking the entire time. What on earth is he a quince. Quince is a relative of the apple family and If you get a raw quits they're terribly fibrous and bitter but if you cook them down they have this beautiful jammie berry note. And it's typically served with cheese very common in spain and being relative to the apple. We kinda wanna play the two flavors against it. So as northern spy apples and quince in the south package. It's not very nice. This hour's light. Which i'm cool with a tortoise. You know yeah. I mean we we call it a tar heel a lot of the malic acid. That comes from the apple. Softens the the the bite the ph is pretty in line with sour beer. But i think the pallet wise. It's very soft it is. It's really nice. I really enjoy i. Did you quite tasty. You're listening to the beer. Guy's radio show. We need to take another break. But we'll be back very soon with more from steady hand beer company if you love beer barbecue and football than the nest in kennesaw. 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We've talked about these Let's talk some about your beer man. Bit more we've brushed on kind of the ones that were drinking here but You have a project. You call the liquid lab series that right. Yeah so you know a lot of the stuff we do. We're we're trying to figure out where beer goes you know. We'll do a one barrel batch out of the taproom and really. Just try to like get people's feedback and the liquid lab thing was kind of like well. Let's see if we can engage people a little bit more and let us know what they think about it. 'cause each each week i was putting on maybe one or two different beers of stuff. I'm still just kind of working through the kinks. Of and i wanted to see the kind of like how you know. What do people. What was a response right to people like it. That itself pretty quickly and fruited sour is for us. Sold like crazy just year. Yeah i mean you guys have the topology. So pineapple ginger sour. That's based on stuff. That i just ferment at home. Did you do that like you would do. A home bash. Did you put pineapple lands in in the mexican sugar cones there. So i didn't do the mexican sugar cone We did ginger. I'd like to get the you know the actual like a peon ceo and do the whole writing. So we'll probably do that when we you know take. I love that so much. That was super good and on untapped it was like the fourth most popular the highest rated up beer in those good wh- what was in it was were there any grains i mean how can a beer base but okay i think the fun part about it was the sourness and the fruit notes from the pineapple and the ginger kind of almost like blur those lines between a beer and just a ferment. You know so. It's like i for minute to paci at home. Just as a as a drink with pineapple cinnamon and brown sugar and ginger and may come to and it's just like well. Those are all products of fermentation. Can we take some of those cool flavors. And how do we work those through to some of those other beers ensure sometimes it helps just do one barrel like all right. It's low risk rival like this. Or that's the great thing about being able to serve from burry the tap taproom. You can do that one barrel and say hey what do people think about the right and so since they really love that. We're gonna see more of that. And that's that's the beauty of the liquid lab is is kind of like letting people help us decide what goes on the release calendar for next year. Okay well we'll all the beers have codenames gonna start so the first one is Codename snack cake. And that's an amber ana would age stout with coconut and cacao nibs okay. There's this beautiful cinnamon baking spice notes as well as the chocolate and coconut. So so does that come from the parana would get the cinnamon nuts. Have you used that before. We've used third time using all kinds of i've just been fascinated with the depth of that you can get you know certain beers with that. Would you know different than you could get from a barrel. We've encountered a few times every now and then science. You know i was just thinking you know how some breweries have done things like. They'll do A stout terrapin did this and a couple of others where they did one based out with four different coffees. Oh yeah. I would love to see a beer like a four-pack that our six pack however much you can do where she's different woods divorce if you know what they because we had Over the weekend we drank a cigar city white oak highlife. Yeah in the would notes matter. Just it's so interesting and different over share. Is we all know bourbon and oak. You know we we all know. That could be like a golf pack. How many woods are in the gulf set. I forget what it's like when you're golf clubs. Are you have your woods. Like how many eight like eight one. Three eight or three through eight or something like that you can. You can have like a golf pack. You know they have that whole thing where you take that same base beer and apply that because you know there's going to be that many different woods or woods age in different spirits so you've got i mean the world is your choice. Did i miss something with the relation to the gulf or is it just because golf has would call says woods. And you're talking about mixed woods. Well what else has mixed woods golf bag. Does they have different points to them but man. He's really stretching for that one yet little bit. It's a bit of a stretch rican. We'll work on its We appreciate your input. And that's more appreciation than i typically get a really bad ideas. Yes yeah we've tried some great stuff like you mentioned you know go there. The taproom really enjoy what you've got there but what's coming up in the future man what's What's next for steady hand. Yeah i i think We've had some good success with our logger program. We're gonna continue to expand that you guys had the confirm humanity. We'll we'll see that in a in a large format next year. And i think a lot of this stuff that we plan for twenty twenty is just going to get pushed on twenty twenty one and we're just gonna go pretty aggressive pretty heavy with the stuff that we enjoy doing and make it bigger. You know the fruits hours more. Pa's or loggers more stoute's all the stuff that we've enjoyed making it over the past couple of years so something that i've been wondering about since i was looking through all your beers on tap i noticed that they all max out at nine percent. Abc is intentional is a recent. You haven't gone beyond. That is a hard to maintain balance. Because i know you have a thing for balancing for balance you know for me. I think for the culinary background if you go above nine percent alcohol for my brewing style you really have to justify that additional alcohol you know you guys have had the flower business. That wpa were the alcohol comes across a little bit sweet and it does really balance a flavor even though that's a fairly dry lovers visual sugar wpa. I think for us. That nine percent is kind of like my little threshold where things can go out of balance and things and get a little weird there. It doesn't mean that. I wouldn't go above it but currently i think i really appreciate that. Sweetness of the alcohol as an additional seasoning. Kind of thing. A little flavor that i can play with sure and i think we workshops an idea that we'd be perfect for that it would be some sort of a tiki theme beard and we call it booze hookah hookah. That's it and it's gotta shoot for double digits we've got to make it into double digits. We're hookah tiki. Here's a way you know. It's just you know we can figure that out straws. It can happen. Multiple straws beer comes with at least forestall at least four straws giant bowl. Got the they've got those mini kegs. You guys actually doing the serving size for this covert thing. It's like we gotta sell beer to go. And i got a ton of fun stuff. That is one barrel at a time. The taproom. I can't can it right so i got as many chairman mini kegs as i could and we were just literally filling fun mini kegs each weekend yet because although our laws have changed here in georgia we do still have our limitation. How many ounces. Two hundred and forty four is it to forty four to eighty eight to one of those two. I think it's a case check outs case of twelve ounce so many cases hundred and sixty nine ounces five liters you're there that's what you can do right but it was nothing like you know your backyard party your social distance little sex. We saw another brewery. That did one recently. And it's it's so tempting to do that because now we try a bunch of different beers in that. But you know you get one. That's good man. Just get you. A little lake said having a backyard party barbecue or whatever get a little can go. I want a mini cake with a slow poor tap on it. That's what i want. I think as a product of designed their slower port would be. wouldn't they side poll. Is it side paul. Because do they do that. No it's it's still the it's like a quarter turn. It's kinda close all right. I don't know if you could get a full like melito or out a yeah. I'm looking. I'm looking for that. I'm brian shaking the mini keg. The froth off right out of there so much younger bryan adams cake that he was responsible for tapping and i see it was embarrassing of what. They didn't realize that they were getting slow. Port beer it was a luxury. And you're out of your time brian. Yeah you know something. We haven't touched on. We probably should you just drop the The twenty thousand tangerine flower business recently. Like the beginning of this month so did yeah for sure. Tell us about that man. Obviously flower businesses is one of our core. wapa's and we wanted to play some of that citrus notes to it. Every year we released the or two years in a row now released. The tangerine eight year. It's been a little bit different. So change the hops up the fruit notes. Were much stronger this year. It's a little bit more siddiq but at nine percent alcohol. It's dangerous drinkable. You know and it's one of those ones where the alcohol find out soon in have a couple of nine percent. I still get in trouble. But it's go back to your point about the sweetness of like. That's a positive flavor component of that beer and at seven and a half percent. Maybe it wouldn't be the same that's tra- we've dabbled in non alcoholic beers. You know especially i. i called it. My doctor's orders series for drinking in the non alcoholic beers in one of the hardest things areas whether or not you taste the alcohol that is a flavor component of the beer. Absolutely also you know it does make a difference. Even if it doesn't taste boozy that impact and i think that's one thing that Probably brewers struggle with especially beers that are intended to have either on the very low end like a real clear lapels ner type of beer on the higher and i think that's the struggle with them to get it to taste you know in that line. You certainly notice it when it's not there. I mean i sometimes don't think about it because it's not a huge factor. But yeah i like it. Contributes the body contributes to flavor contributes to a lot of things. And when it's gone. What are you filling in that gap and sometimes nothing is nothing is what you get. 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January 13th: Grimm Brothers Brewhouse W/ Don Chapman HR 1

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45:36 min | 9 months ago

January 13th: Grimm Brothers Brewhouse W/ Don Chapman HR 1

"It's been a long week. Grab a beer and sit back grew talk. Here's tanner chad in the brew. Doctor himself. Dr michael mosier well to be real honest with you. I think i'd rather do the show every wednesday night from where we're sitting right in right now. Chad might be dozing off. Halfway through but we are chairs are too comfortable. we are live from grimm. Brothers brew house. This brew talkradio anteater swint. Of course that was the smooth vocals of jackie. Young owner owner of the tavern at saint michel square joining us. Me and barry white same identical could hardly tell the difference. She had young. God this is one of your favorite breweries stokes. We've got these guys absolutely. I've been come and grimm brothers since they were in the the smaller old place. An my wife's previous work is just to not even a block away just a few buildings down to the west of here so we we frequent here quite a bit. You're always like honey. I'll pick you up. i'll come today. What are you talking about three in the afternoon. Okay but hey happy to be sitting inside to. We've been talking to morgan harrington. Cfo of gerber's grim reaper. She calls herself Here and everybody calls her. So we'll talk later on but it's nice to be sitting inside. Dr michael mosier you. Were you were applauding morgan. Last week about the snowdrop. Well you've had one in front of you now you content. I am very content. This is my one of my favorite styles. It's a historical style. That i'm glad to see his Reemerged and i don't think there's any better beer out there right now than us. Her also known as snowdrop also big fan here. Big big big fan. I know you've got some questions that are going to get an answer to the man that's gonna answer is owner don chapman of grimm brothers. Don thanks for joining us and thanks for hosting. We're excited to be here tonight. You bet thanks for having me. Yeah we're excited about a man. Now we've talked about your burri lot we've had. We've tried your beers for for going on three years. Now that we've been we've been doing the show we've had him on there and always very high ranking and we're excited to finally be able to sit down and chat and and kind of go over all these beers and What a crazy crazy time to be in the brewing industry. Oh absolutely it's been especially this last year's been absolutely insane but you know fighting through and keeping it going so right well and you guys did receive some good news Couple of weeks ago. Now that you guys were able to open up twenty five percent occupancy and now you've got the The tents going on outside but some of these requirements are just crazy noise here when it when everything was. Shut down and talk about on the ventilation sy- semi stuff that you don't even think about when he when he opened a brewery that you're having to work through what's it's been like for you you're taking comes and so we We we did what we needed to do to stay alive and stay open and We we fought a good fight. You know we we we. We made a difference in our local politicians may different help get us level up program put in here and Gosh you know. If it wasn't for that it's hard to say what are would be but it's it's super exciting that everybody came together and help small businesses all over their mccown and all state. Well as we pulled into they were. We were talking about the parking lot. I mean it was tough to find a place to park out there which is encouraging not just for for grimm brothers right but for everybody in loveland and in all of these local businesses in this In this area that's exciting to see but you had people in the tents out there. You had people rocket in here That's gotta be refreshing right to see people enjoying the great product you produce. Oh yeah absolutely it's Say it's been. It's been a rough couple months but it's good to see everybody out here having fun again. Yeah we're talking with john chapman. The owner of grimm brothers brew house relying on location. If you're in the area swing by grandma. Beer chad. You're buying the first round. Yeah it's on tanner's town is open up there. I don't know if we should have said that. Honestly with tabs open already founded at the line at the bar. Now a brief second. Yeah some glasses. I can wash people. Because i don't know how saddam car we change out but let's talk a little bit about the history of grand brothers brew house And where are you started. Chad was talking about the the older located the other location. I get a chance to to be over there. How long have you been in this location but Let's let's just let you go what what was the started. Grimm brothers well so Aaron and i met each other homebrew club in fort. Collins called liquid poets. That was probably around. Two thousand three two thousand four star brewing together And kind of had a passion for brewing. So at one point there was a. We had a forum back when people actually had forms so somebody had mentioned. Hey they wanted to start a brewery and it was kind of thread about starting a brewery. And i had piped up. I would love to do this. But i don't know anything about it. I'm just learning and aaron had kind of texted me on the side and said well you know i. I've also been interested in this so we should talk and so we started talking. We got along really well and thought. Well let's let's do. Let's let's start coming up with our into a brewery and and so we said on it for a couple years kind of learning the ropes and whatnot and finally about two thousand and eight right around there. We reached out to the larimer county small small business development center. And said how do you start a and so They helped us. They helped us business plans right marketing plans and so for about two years. We worked on getting funding. We're getting our kind of our plans together. And then in twenty ten we. We officially opened and at the time we had what we actually had the same system where brewing on. It's a little tin barrels system. But we only had two timberlake tanks at the time and now we actually don't even have a timber for matter. Were brewing all onto thirty for mentors. But that was kind of our starting. It was just just blew operation across the parking lot. Which is where the burri still is. Well so you talked about the the the the what society the poets. The liquid poets society. Which so so. Is that where you really found your love for brewing beer. Or how did that come about. Yeah so i had run across how to brew online at the end of one of my days of work and so i was just perusing thinking of this. This looks fun. I could do this and it was right around that time that you know right so it was right around that time that i i found that there's there was a homebrew shop in fort collins and there was a club up there so i thought well i'll go ahead and join and see how to do this. And i think. I brewed one or two extract batches until i decided to jump into all grain and then from audrey and of course it just took off and became this so so you. You've been running out so last year. Twenty twenty your ten year anniversary correct last july so that was a that was a heck of a way to spend it. Yeah we still had a party. It was socially distance good and it was it was done properly. We're going to have a bigger party. Wants wants this is what you can right. But at least we celebrate. Diversity don chapman the owner of ed grimm. Brothers brew house relied on location out here tonight. Getting a little bit of the lowdown so the name word that come about so That was that was kind of funny. It was aaron tonight. We're coming up with ideas for the brewery and neither of us are very good at coming up with names for cats beers. Were english pale ale. Revision one in english pale ale so we're brainstorming one night and we knew he wanted to be a german style brey as kind of our focus and that was because the time there was new belgium and odell. There was the gap was there needs to be german style brewery and so we were coming up with different ideas. It had a german theme to it and somebody had mentioned that we do Grimm brothers brew house or the brothers grimm or something air naval said no that stupid. It's childish and the next day we bolstered reading the fairy tale. The oh my gosh. she's her. These are garcon this of cool so we kinda came back around said yeah absolutely. Let's grimm brothers brew house and so we we decided to go ahead and roll with that. And that's kind of how we end up with the name and we are able to draw from the fairy tales for naming beers and. Yeah would you ever thought it was going to get to this point so recognizable when you talk. I mean grimm brothers. You say that name in any beer fan in northern colorado and hell we were talking about around the world. I mean you've got fans everywhere. Turns out we do. And i know i had no clue it would become to this level. It was a dream. Come true yeah we're We're live on location again. From grimm brothers brew house Here this radio. So i'm this doc and just a sort of asking the question you know the the artwork you know. Obviously the artwork comes from the the fairy tales and stuff So do you do this in house or no. we do. Not so when we first started there was a company just getting started called tenfold collective. And they've since broken or split ways and there were two partners one has done something and then another was named josh emerick all original artwork and they were just starting the same year. We're starting and they kind of. They didn't want to a brewery in town that they didn't represent so they texas it will. We will do your art for free. And i said hell of a business while well and i said no you won't that was. Was that prince trying to give you money right. So i talked to him and it turns out they were. They were honest. Although we did ended up doing a batch we been accustomed batch for them so they could do they could have for their clients but they they ended up designing our logo and so the original logo they earn an i four concept drawings and we of found to what we like this about this and this about this and then they send us back the new drying. Oh that's that's it. That's our logo and really good. Really good what they do. And then they're the ones who did most of our of our artwork and then since then we've had a few other people do some art workforce on that style but that's that's kind of how the it's more like graphic arts and graphic design and graphic novel kind of approach to the label artan. It's it really stands out on the on the shelf. It's it's very recognizable. Yeah thank you and also relates back to the grimm brothers story of that is the beer is named for so it really does it comes kind of goes all full circle there absolutely well and that's part of it you know we've talked a lot about burris and there's a lot of great homebrew that try and take that next step into the world and there's that business aspect that's missing ryan and consistency in marketing. And when you see one thing that's got a drawback and you guys have done better than than a lot of the other burris in the area where you see it and you're like wait a grim artwork you know that that's a grim can And it's it's it's to watch and even as we sit here. I was watching chad. You're looking around at all All of the artwork on the walls to it just ties together. It really does. Just yeah. it's fun. It's a great place ties right into the beer right into fairy tales. And and that's that's what i like about it too is. It's it's fun. You know like the snowdrop the the figurine that's drawn on their the figure that's drawn on. There's a fun approach to to it. It's not dark. And dreary like the grimm brothers tales are even though you can tell that it's related to it and it's it's the adult version. Fairytales grow up a little bit. Yeah and you don't wanna fuck things are artists. Did with those characters like in snowdrop. So it's based on snow white and her fate was the apple. So she's she's facing her fate in the picture in little red cap. She has hatchet behind her back to to face her opponent. So that were. He's drawn our our heroines and heroes as not not victims but definitely as as heroines and heroes. So now of a man you're gonna stick with us for a bit. Yes we'll take a break. Let's take a break here. Six seventeen the time it's brew talkradio. We're live and on location night. Grimm brothers broom house. We'll be back on the other side we're talking with. John chapman the owner of grimm brothers. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to bruce doc. Radio on northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Why by whole sports story in northern colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten kfi k. rally. Good thing was a little bit of a shorter break. Chad was getting ready to fall asleep. In his chair of their assigned well maybe not false comfy and war beer. Beer me joking. Is this the most comfortable seating you've ever had burry. Yeah i walked reserved for brew talking like we are gold. We've had some weird set ups and some of these were we brew hop. Stop that you guys. Are this month we to northern colorado burri colorado breweries to be honest and We get put some weird thoughts. I'm sure you could imagine but this this might be the most comfortable one that we've chadha so comfortable as you say about past bedtime but chatty young you had you have the avs jersey chirac tonight forty five tonight really. That's in my head. it's. I'm trying to take a nap before the game. So you can stay. Stay up now. That's not gonna you're not going to say. Don't put it on the radio or you hockey fan all of hockey. Yeah at big avs or what your guy. We have our own hockey league team here at a grim plays noko ice. Oh yeah we. We love hockey. That's awesome so you end up to to. Oh absolutely is this the year. I always hope it is not always is this the year. I'm a whole this one last year right well. Last year wasn't a year for anybody any anybody who want championship last year. It's fake it's real. I'm making that claim right now. Is this year the answering back Bring back got a strong team. I think this is the best chance they. They've had a very long time. I don't remember who it was but they said that you know no more of they've got a lot of potential. They're young these. This is the time we've got to win now and That's going to be a lot of fun to watch by far the best team in the state you know you thought. The nuggets were closed but it suck right now. I'll throw that out there too. So they have got a lot of capability right now looking forward to that. Eat forty five nights so Wanted to just throw the avs a shout out there. But what are you got in front of you. I'm drinking the the little red cap. Yeah what are your thoughts. It's one of my favorites. It's a nice red multi. Think it's an ultra beer beer. Yeah so yeah one of my favorites one of the ones. I've been drinking since since the beginning. I think is one of the originals secondary. We have a brick. Yeah one what are your flagships tonga's through the process of of coming up with something like this and did you know this was going to be. We talked about Kind of in the first time we. You didn't know everything's gone up. Leggett has for you guys. But did you know that okay. That's a pretty damn good beer. Yes so we we knew we wanted to have a hop ear ale and we wanted to have a logger sore. I two bears were within this one little red cap and so with little red cap we. We kind of looked at that. We we brute. Several different versions of tales did our research and on this one specifically we want to have a little bit of american hop kick on it so we actually throw in some cascade hops on this kind of been the key to that one for a long time just brightens it up at that. Citrusy flavor that That you know our our american politics like other than that. It's a german malts and and pretty traditional ale yeast clean for mitigation kind of cold on the cold side. So it gives you really good really good profile on that on the east flavors and real nice and crisp queen. Yeah well and i know that is every time He he can find it. That's what he's drinking at these different Places we just got a case of cans delivered to the tavern today along. What's your drinking their. Tanner remind me the name. I'm terrible with names of things No dragging drag drag drag moves through the relative relatively new beer. Is this one you've had for years so that's one of our newer mainline beers. That's a that's new england. Uci mcrae's right now. Did it pain you. Are you a beer beer purist or something like this not necessarily yes. We want to brew a taste. Good so You know a hell of a job that one. Well thank you so we had several goes at it trying to figure out how we wanted to go with that recipe and this is what we we ended up on and it's all hops. It's that's all it is. Yeah well and this is such a huge corner of the market right now right. And how closely do you monitor the market trends and and base your your brewing decisions off of that. We try to kind of keep our finger on the pulse. Know what's coming up in a lot of just if things don't sell they don't sell and you try something new i mean there's there's we've had in the past that just didn't sell so you know it does make sense of those and you try something new and so you know whatever the fundings right. Now you're gonna try that and there's always innovation coming out there and so you we're always trying. Innovate some fun. Stuff as well and right so i think you just leading right into my question so speaking about innovation and and Historical types of things. snowdrop is a historical style. That kind of went away for a while and ask kind of gotten revised a re brought back to the market by So why choose. This is a style to brew. What was your motivation to look back at styles. That kind of went by the wayside for a little bit so when when we were home brewing One of my one of my goals was at the time. The jcp guidelines had so many styles and another lot more now. But i wanted to. I wanted to create a recipe for every single style and brew my own recipe. And you know. Learn how to that style and i kind of finished that up by time. We're starting to burri. And we're in the middle building. The brewery and i had read the book. I forgot what it is. I think randy moshe wrote it in that book. Was this caller to this style. Cook user and i always kind of had this. I liked coming up with finding out about these styles that weren't made anymore. And so. I actually brewed this a homebrew batch. While we were while we were building the brewery and aaron. I drank beer while we were building the brewery and and we we only had three beers launch with and when we were drinking this repulsive this. This is a really good beer. We need to make this beer as part of our lawn so he added it about a month before we were going to open as one of our launch beers but yeah so that's basically i just i kind of had we have a passion for trying to raise some beers have extinct and and this is one of those that just happened to be brooded and we loved and other others on your menu right now i should be looking for. I'm loving these historical styles every net right now. We don't have any you but every now and then we do release. Some are that are dead. Styles one of them's like a great sir which is a it's a. It's kind of a you really have to like smoke beers for this one but it is a week beer with oak smoked malt. Ooh that sounds good. And it's hopped up kind of like all tail so it's it's pretty bitter. It's definitely an interesting beer. But i enjoy it. We don't often because not everybody enjoys. No i mean those were all fears. Smokeybear is Not everybody enjoys them. I think they've come out a couple of times by trying to push the idea that it's a bacon beer win in fact it's really not a bake smoked beer but And most of them don't taste like smoke in. We love bacon but bacon needs to state. It's lane sometimes baking adventure to some of the things that i don't think you need to do is screen ice-cream stater lane no need for bacon ice cream. I'm sorry no need for it. We're talking about don chapman. The owner of grimm brothers brew house relying on location here tonight at grimm brothers. Very excited to be here. I think that's interesting talking about the trans and bringing back those those old beers one of the trends that we've talked about a lot in. Actually we saw a lot of it. I'm sure you didn't twenty twenty as well and twenty nine thousand nine was the rise of Shelters and what that has done. Is there any talk about brewing A seltzer or making seltzer. Yeah we we actually make seltzer as well. It's called Mountain seltzer. It's kind of a different label that we have but we are bringing it and we play around with it change the flavors every now and then but it's base same basic thing. Just you know corner. Britain and then add flavor to it so i can kinda tell by your demeanor. You're not a big fan of no but it's right in the decision you guys have to make is the brewing in what sells and you're seeing a lot of people put on. I believe crabtree in greeley. Four more lines. They added just for shelters. So you see some people really commit to it But from your your expert opinion do you do. You expect seltzer trend to live. I mean how long shelf life does it have. Oh i think you'll go on in fact we're really excited. We're bruin there's there's a style in germany called sharla which is a basically a sparkling wine and so we are. We are brewing. A version of that using the seltzer idea. That'll be a wine flavored shortlists and so we'll be released. Actually we're we're getting ready to release. I run of that here within the next month sounds interesting on kansas. It's it's a. it's a seltzer. But we brewed as a seltzer. But we add in about forty eight percent of the fermentable great must can so it tastes kind of like a sparkling wine. It's pretty good and isn't that kind of also begs the question to what about lower alcohol the non alcoholic or the very low alcohol beers. You see a lot of that starting to hit the market now too. We have We i am honestly not extremely thrilled. So far with an alcohol gears. I've tried but i wouldn't say no to them. I just would have to find a process that makes them taste appropriate. So i agree. I understand down to the last year. Well not last year but Two years ago now. I suppose brewing athletic growing up and i don't know if it was the fact that i've been at the abf all day. But i had one. And i couldn't i couldn't tell and so i think they they were out of East coast tomorrow. Okay okay. yeah and that's all they brew is non alcoholic beer. Yeah it was interesting to hear the process behind it and understated to a point. But that's i feel like that's one that the the shelf life on that had the the amount of market that they can gain with a with a non alcoholic beer is very limited. I don't think there's also growing and but the cat. I feel like the cap is not as the ceiling is lower than than on when you talk about celtics and sparkling wine and stuff like. Is that what you kind of what you see as well i mean i understand that but i don't know because i'm i'm not in the market to to know what we're that Level is. But i i bet you're right. Non alcoholic is a little lower than and it's just like you know every every year in january but he is going to eat healthier and dry january. We talked about and we're finally getting into shape this year. We're doing great with it right. So you know you. Dieting trans and and nutritional trends eb and flow dependent on what the what the coolest thing to do is right. You know it was kito for a while and then it was gluten free. Then it's you know so. It's not like the south beach or atkins. Yeah yeah so you know it's all those come and go so you. I think you're probably right to the non alcoholic beer. Trend will probably fade off a little bit and then it may come back. Sometimes you see that as well done. Yeah i think so. There's definitely you know ebbs and flows to it and i have some things i think. Stay in some some things you just have to wait and see yeah. I don't think there's you know. I don't think there's enough market for everyone to brew on call bureau. I think that's i think that's very well said. I think that's very well said so. Let's take a break when we come back on the side. I've got some random questions to ask you. Okay because i like to get these questions out. Learn a little bit more about the personality. Six thirty three time live from grimm brothers brew house runners brew talk radio on northern colorado voice. Thirteen ten kfi pure mornings with gail weekdays. Six to nine and northern colorado's foists thirteen ten. Kfi back in through talk on this win. They evening mary excited to be with you. Live from grand brothers brew. House fell the feels. Good to be back out on live on location. That's why we do the show. We don't like to be cooped up in the studio. Go around and check this out of this this a good one for as much more fun to come out and enjoy a beer in its natural habitat is the. The beers are more comfortable in this environment. I feel so and it's kinda like festival feeling even though we're not out of all right we get the inside. Look at things. Yeah exactly we. Could we just start showing rizzi. Tanner schratt bruce chuck. What's going on here. That works at all or only use. That acts. yeah you got. He's got a twenty dollar bill in your hand to understand what's going on here. See what happens when i do that. I don't know. Don chapman the owner of grimm brothers. Brad would you. Would you give me a beer for came in with a fedora. Asking those questions here thinking about doing that right now. all right. got some questions for you here. The just the random variety. We're all gonna ask some questions with our respective professions with mind being that i like to drink beer and can host a radio show but one of the things that i always like to ask. What's the favorite beer. What's your favorite beer brewed. And why is it so favorite beer brewed you know. Honestly i'd say it's one. I call hans the hedgehog. It is a aw we are fest. It's actually one of my favorite beers. It just real easy. Drinking has a nice chris. Wheat bite to it but still a logger. So one of my favorites win win along in hebrew process. Did you brew this. He said yeah honestly. This one is one. I had tried to october fest celebration in denver. And i had a beer. That was a. We'd october fest beer. I thought this is really good. So i just went brewed batch to see what it tastes like and loved it. So we've kept around ever since and that we usually bring out in october fest. We have a farmer's daughter for official. October fest beer but october fest celebration that we host. We have hans the hedgehog for that so when you go. When you're you're planning your beers do you ever plan a beer with distribution in mind or how do you. How do you decide what going to distribute might be a better question. We do not plan for distribution. We we have the beers distribute and then other than that we brew beers. People love it then candidate to take further. Anything it's kind of fair game to distribute as long as absolutely buying it if it sellable and people want it then absolute good. I like that. It's a good approach to things right. Yeah so my question is probably a little bit more on the technical side. You say you have a ten barrel brew house thirty barrel fermenters so that makes your days very long. Well yes and no so. We have Timber abreu it's over sized and we've come up with a way of of of brewing Gravity beer in the kettle. And then watering it down into the for matter on on what we do is during the world pool so we brew higher gravity for boil and then in the world we inject water back into drop it back into gravity. And so we can get fifteen barrels a batch out of it. So it's only two batch two days through the day but so the high gravity brew but then not a high gravity ferment. Great yeah so probably gives a little bit cleaner flavor. then then the high gravity ferments. Would you know. I've never played with a high gravity ferment. So i don't know But that was an idea interesting. I'm getting a little redundant here. But i i guess onto which favorite beer that you didn't brew what's it what's your what's your beer that you go to say. Outside of growth is you don't have to say the brewery but if that's it everyday it's not hesitate at all just boom this not not not a problem at all with that. Oh no no no. When did you fall the beer. Gosh i've always loved delight. Pa when they first released it was one of my beers. I just loved so. And you know honestly. I got to see both new belgium. Odell have been such big players in in our lives and helping us with this. That i have never had anything against those guys have been when we first opened. We were shortcake's we need. We need to have our beer on tap and sales and and new belgium and we said hey can we can. We read some cakes from you. They both told us know. We will drop off a couple of pallets for you to use. That's up the mountain less us until we got our own. So love those guys. I always loved their beers. Well kind of makes sense because they were starting out at a place where kind of you started out with two and so just like in the homebrew in industry just like in the brewing industry. The people help each other. We talked about that all the time. Yeah how much of a community that brewing yeah especially in colorado and northern colorado and we saw that i mean we saw that come to fruition a lot during In nineteen right. I mean we. We saw a lot of these burris band together. You saw was the colorado strong beer. What was the name of that. Beer that Everybody got the same strong or something like that. He saw a lotta that come together. We're talking don chapman kind of kind of just throwing some random questions. Well as the owner of grandma grubbers brew house here in loveland up. What is the. What's the worst beer you've ever had. I know i'm just asking but what's the worst beer. You don't have to say the brewery owner anything like that. But what's what's the worse beer you've ever had well. I won't say what the burri was but it was. It was a beer. It was. I think it was a esp and when it came out i could smell the diaz. It'll from the end of the table. That was the word. I didn't even try to sip. I couldn't do it really. Yeah so so. How did that conversation. Go back because you never. You never wanna be that guy like there's something wrong because there's a lot of those especially in colorado. It seems like we get a lot of beer. Snobs the even though sometimes. They think that they know what they're doing. They don't. I'm sure you've run in this here. Honestly i didn't send it back. I disorder two different. One i don't wanna be jerk. So yeah i just i. I learned from experience. So you always taste before you buy so. That's a good plan plan. Sometimes i need to learn that. We'll just jump right in. You wanna taste it i go. What was your best experience. Oh gosh you know. Honestly the first year we went we got a gold on on little red cap and that was my experience. There it was we had. We had worked hard and to have a gold our first year there was phenomenal. Yeah that's cool cloud nine. What's your highest amount of years that you drank. Gef i think i got on this. I don't even know a lot. That's that's a normal person's response you drink a lot. dr counts. Because he's a counted. Because i was actually marking him down in a book once. I counted ninety two samples. But i of course you don't drink all those ready. That's ninety two of beer in two and a half hours. You can't do that so i just would taste it and if it was less than out. I don't see the big so when we went down to twenty thousand eighteen. That was my first experience down there at the abf and he had told me about this and he had an idea of at the time what my palate was really enjoying what was so i was falling around. Oh there's that'd be a little puppy just following them around right. Well i try one and and we try and go and he would take the beer in dump it and i'd be like can't wait here and so i followed him around at that pace. We get ninety two but a safe to say glad. We were walking back to the hotel with rookie mistakes. Everybody genteel throw up there. But i did make rookie mistakes. That's an that's an interesting. Are you a fan of beer festivals. My view on beer festivals have changed over the years. They've become work. I can't imagine why you still love them. Now there's there's a few. I enjoy still but for the most part i tried to steer clear of them. The smaller ones you probably more than the bigger ones. There's one the fallback festival. Estes park when they when i love that one. That's a fun festival. I still enjoy. Gb f. i just don't want to go work every session. Sure so you know it's in and big. There's always fun. Yeah yeah big think. That's a good one. The one that yeah. I've heard about it but obviously never been up there. That sounds like pretty small. And we've we've been the ones the small ones that In greeley couple of them and Really enjoy getting a chance to visit with people you can. I mean when the when the number of people standing in line to get a beers you you can take a little bit more time and talked to the owner. The brewer the person standing behind the counter and actually get to know them and their beers more absolutely absolutely. And that's that's really a good thing Have you ever been to spirits festival going to have not. Wow yeah that's don't drink ninety two of them up there. I'll just say. Wow we recommend craft spirits festival up. That's what brought me to the that was that was a tough lesson for three beer. Guys learn going to go into a spirits festival because they just as quick as they just a little higher alcohol. Yeah a little bit of the owner of brothers brew house. If i told you Three years ago what twenty was going to be like. Would you have done anything different. Would you have gotten out of the brewing industry. It would. you have done anything different or would you have just taken it on and and gun. Full steam ahead. I mean every year is different. You know i mean honestly the past three or four years have been very different than what we started with with all the new baru starting and changes in how people with peers and the styles people like so you. Just take this comes. I wouldn't have got now this is. We're doing this because we love it so So we do what we do. You know worst case we fail him. We'll let you try it so so word of advice for those new breweries. That are just opening up. What's the what's the most important aspect of running a berry open outside of loveland. Honestly i love what you do because if it is a lot of work it is a lot of stress it is it is more work than you will ever do in your life so you got to enjoy if you don't enjoy don't do it if there's a shred of doubt don't do it. Don't do it for the money to it because you love it. And i've heard there is no money. There's not a whole lot about that. One can and i've heard people say that you know it's a ninety percent cleaning a thirty percent paperwork and whatever's leftover you get a chance to brew. Yeah absolutely. what's your favorite part of your job. Then honestly. I'm an engineer by training. So i like the systems turns out. That's why like. I used to love the bahrain. I've stepped out of that. We have head brewer now so she does all that and i. I enjoy running systems for the company. Making sure that things are done consistently inefficiently so so in this day and age a lot of people are shying away from filtration and stuff like that moving towards centrifuges or just going to natural sedimentation to clarify their beers. What's your preference. So i like a we use filtration on beers we have to produce consistently and and centrifuge should be great but i have right so so for us. We've we've dowd in our filtration process. And we know how to add a little bit more to the initial product to get what we want the end and so for that. It works great. If it's a specialty beer we kinda take play it by ear if we're on a deadline and we gotta get out sooner than we might filter it if we can let it sit for a while under some head pressure and let clarify naturally. Then that's fine too and then and then of course. There's some beers we don't want to filter. And i'm a big fan of the naturally sediment beers. I really cascales and things like that. Really love that filtered naturally type of feelings. There's something about A high-pressure filtered beer through candle filters in the filter. Something that you just kind of feel like. It's more manufactured rather than handcrafted touch. And i really love that handcrafted feeling english. Please explain on the car right back. One last random question for coolest country coolest pub outside of america that you've had beer in two or are you buying tickets. Brother's going to sponsor talk abroad well. The one that goes to mind is one austria. That was fun. There was also one. I brew to in cologne. That was little craft brewery. There was a lot of fun. I'd say those were my kinda my two and really for no other reason but the people there their beers were were good. They weren't stellar but the people were awesome. So that's all the difference right. All right six fifty two. We need to take a break. We got one last segment. It'll be three minutes when we come back on. That said something like that. I don't go anywhere. Don chapman a great interview. There's been a lot of fun we got a whole nother our to go how we get some more fun. People with brothers soccer were live on location at grimm. Brothers through house This brute talk radio on north dakota's voice thirteen ten. Kfi gay it's party. A northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k. The block party wednesdays from four to ten pm boundary minutes left now but during doing here on on of enjoy my time. I we appreciate it. Man were excited. So we got aaron coming up Believe your sales rep is gonna join. Eric is gonna join us. That's going to be a fun because That's one that i know. Channel have questions on his well dealing with those sales reps. That's a. that's a difficult task. Sort of interesting folk. Actually don't deal with them much. I have a beer buyer. Okay sir all. Just tell them what i want to drink and hope eli. Is that what you base your Do you keep he okay. This here's here's for both of you guys. You keep at least one tap for something personal that you want to make sure that you know i come in and obviously you love everything you brew right. I'm sure you love most of this but a lot more diverse i we. We tried to keep at least one beer. That was one of my favorites for a little bit. But then it just. I mean there's so many beers and we're so limited on the taps we have destroyed more taps and a lot of places to twelve. Well we have ten because we keep the two bigger beer companies on. Because it's really but you know we're to a point now we could almost just pull those off You know it was rough and when we first started switching over to craft beer but now it's people come in and they want to know what's new and and what we have new on tap and and we love supporting local northern colorado rockies. That's all we have on. Tap is is colorado breweries. Do you keep something on the tier. you're not really. We always have our mainline. My my beard changes throughout the depends my mood and what i want. And that's a big draw. People love to come in and say something different every time. Yeah absolutely which. I don champion. Just a couple of minutes left. If somebody hasn't been over to grand brothers giving the rundown wh what set you apart. Why we're we're we say we're german-style. We grew more than just german-style beers but we have really good loggers kind of environment nice beer holiday with couches to sit in enjoy and just a fun environment so You know. I mean i know that a lot of burris have have the same thing but we love what we do too. So yeah well done. I will tell you what. I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. You had answers for all of us in a in a more than some of the interviews that we we've done in the past and glad glad to see what you have done fighting through this and shout out to you and morgan. I know we've talked to her. A bunch about what you've done helping others to because it's not. Your fight is not just for grimm brothers for small business absolutely. Yeah this is. This is a community. Yeah well don we appreciate it. We got just about a minute and a half left so tell me. Is there something embarrassing. That i can ask Either eric Erica or aaron. When we come back anything that i lifetime in there. There's something there. What can you talk about on the radio you too much. There's lots of things. But i don't know that i can tell you what scared of a couple of we can't find. Don appreciate you having us tonight. It's been a blast. We got a whole mother hour. We're going to learn more about but hey thanks for joining us for this hour you bet. Thanks for having all right. Doc chad and myself. We'll be back the side Relied at grimm. brothers brew. House grew talk. radio on. Northern carla's voiced thirteen hundred k. We'll be back.

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Live at Little Beer Fest

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Live at Little Beer Fest

"This episode and every episode of the beer guy's radio show is brought to you by ironmonger. Bruin visit ironmonger their taproom in marietta georgia or online at ironmonger brewing dot com. Opened up a tab. Grab a seat and pour a pint. It's time for the beer. Guy's radio show free beer brewery dedicated to the art science and enjoyment of craft beer. Yeah what we got now. Here are your host tim. Dennis and brian hewitt and welcome to the guy's radio show. We are broadcasting. Live not from the studio brian. Not at all. We are at a beer festival. Where a little beer fest in duluth georgia hosted by good word really and we're gonna talk a beers. Brian we are. Y'all know. Brian hewitt is here with me and brian. How're you doing this week. I'm doing well doing well so joining us today. We have a bunch of different people talking little beers. We've got todd dematteo ryan skinner both from good word. They're here right now. Joining us later on. We're going to have joran van. Sean bain crooks we got jake anders from could run joining us andrew. Brian andrews says yup interest from crooked run brewing and andrew harding from thin man. So we've got a full show does a full show. It is guys crimes there now. Fulltime crooks purpose no longer no such thing trucks. That's what i'm saying is a fulltime right there. Sports marketing front with a satellite trucks. Todd ryan how are you gentlemen doing today. i think i'd die to ago better now. Dead minutes ago two hours into it the last couple of days we're rough. Oh yeah we only a few small things on the radio so you can't swear i'm sorry that's okay we'll we'll censor those two out like one one minute and we've got Two but We'll make it from here. Screw it up. That's right. It wasn't it was that. Cd thing the about about cd. What's what do these things out here. The weeding gaza. Cd off we've been we've been including ours. That's three yes again ryan's not allowed on the show anymore. Vulgarity todd ryan guys. Thanks for having us out here. Thanks for inviting us to the festival. Little beer fest. We love the little beers. We love good word. So what made you decide to make this happen. Todd i know we've communicated about the fest. Is this a joint effort or do you let him run away. He nine percent taught most of the talking. I'm going to sit here and just drink beers. That's not true at all main ryan talked about doing this. Maybe two years ago the what we drink has changed for share. We haven't really been into the hazy for a while and you can tell tomorrow apple last year but We talked about at least a year and a half two years ago. And we just kind of put on the backburner. obviously everything down actually went to the city. And said hey. Is it okay. If i do a small thing on the corporate and it was like a week later i was in the office where the city manager and off handed just mentioned the. We're trying to do then because could and they're like. Oh yeah we'll do it and up there like we. We had to calendar and seven weeks. So you have seven weeks put together. So wow help immensely inspection with organizing this but yeah we just wanted to get a bunch of friends who make some beer and i mean. I think that everyone's powered has gotten a little fatigued. Lift the south and when you go to berry and you see the exact same beer done with different and over. What is the fun in this. And why did you start ruin. Because this is definitely lame. So i feel like a lot of brewers have shucked that a little bit. And they're having more than one lager because it was like you have to have one throwaway lager in. It's a dad beer but matic that people realized that making quality loggers is not you know something to scoff at. And everybody's given their all and most of the people here are making some of the best in the country and some arguing that the best loggers out there but We just love having are coming here with us. See i still enjoy a pastry style a well-made out something like that but nine times out of ten like we go hang out on a saturday. I'm finding me a group of. That's that's got a check pills to lower american parallel or something like that. I sat dream. You just don't want to sit back and and kick a few back and chat with my friends you know. Why am i gonna light and say we don't do patriots outs or through this hours or putting nokia our our beer. We don't do candidate but you know we play the game to that and we have three taste as on right now but back to what you said brew pub brew of has to have a little bit of everything in my opinion but you know are less probably has more loggers english beer than it has of any other style. I'm pretty proud of that. Why can't sit down with the pastry south and drink five twelve ounce servings of it chat with friends. I mean i don't want to any now that's it. The conversation gets really interesting. When you do the act of drinking i enjoy. I like to do it more often than is possible with the big picture starts. Like you're saying. I mean i love when you go into places now. It always used to be like you were saying earlier. You have the one lager on your emc drinkers now. We've got loggers on for people who love here boy. I get stuff from the convenience store every week and amer back at a rack of it. No you get stuff in there for people who want to drink but they want to drink. Something gets not insane and something flavorful at the same time so i am so on board with this. Yes as are we all i think. Well i think we're getting back to where you know. When men ryan started in this industry you had to be back to even have cloud and then it just became cramps. Firemen are kind of thing like we're having to get back to that because there are so many quality varies out there. I mean there are definitely some that need some fine-tuning but the games are going to get tougher now that everybody's starting to turn towards easy drinking lagers and hopefully english weird to which is again being a logger out here. That was really nice. There's a mild. Yeah out here and stuff like that On that note there's a huge variety and loggers. Like i've heard people just go in and say i don't like lockers. Leave it at that. You can't really make that blanket. Stay or fifteen years ago when people do to be. Jcp twenty different opaque. I think a lot of that though is the same thing where people were like. I don't like draft beer because he gives me a headache. There's those mistakes to two things that will be broken down over time. You're talking about now on the radio shirt and whether we talk about it and try to celebrate it will become more popular right because there's a reason why it's the most popular top category of beer in the world is because it's dry and refreshing. It's frigging delicious. it's amazing. Do you think we'll hit a point where people are lining up thirty people deep waiting in line for the sellout now assuming not beers about like don't worship beer ours in internal mantra one of them is. It's only beer. Do not get on a frigging title. So this guy's making world-class liquid. It's easy say there. You know what you're saying. Is beer beer if you wanna take our passwords for anything. It's for most things. But you know i want to switch it up. It's it's only beers just beer beer. Exclamation point dollar signs exclamation point or something like that makes a password. Anak nobody can or if you swap letters for symbols. Nobody can guess that. Is this fax on one. Hundred percent factor literally can remember like twenty things in my life right now complicated just moved to my next child with a number and all of our ipads and the restaurant are hooked up to his apple account. And i'm like what is it this time. Is it penny ofi. What what is it. Now gimme the log in. Let's get it done. So keep getting more complex with those lower case and upper case at least one roman numeral. I really wish they would leave it up to me to to make it as complicated or caters. Just tell me. Hey there's some risk to this just but if you want to go with password is password you can do that. But that's risky. Brewers can stay bureau beer with the name is like a real complex password that just keep circling around the can and you should change your password to whatever that is. We've pretty goofy names for share. We give the name market a run for its money. That's the fun they're right. Have fun with the beer names. What yeah played in bands for a long time. So it's like a little creative thing. Di di little self deprecating actually. It's a knock on on tap. There was somebody who rated r. english mild low and his name was todd and i was like crap i liked. That name took a shot at us. One time with face for radio. I love it for the written word. Just just basically just stay out of the way so this seems like it was a very successful event from what we're seeing. Is this going to be an annual thing you do in this again. That's the goal. Yeah so city. push their agenda but We're hoping to get the green. That's kind of the plan so obviously this is a fine space but if we can get town green you can fit like eight thousand that yeah around five hundred mark but we want to keep it the same kind of i but there is a a handful of breweries that you know we're like we're in for next year if we share and i don't say who they are because don't want to jinx on because there's some i definitely look up too so It'll be bigger for sure next year. Include more of our georgia friends and next year's event two big guys. Thanks much out here again. Ryan and todd good word bruin. Little bear fast. You're listening to beer guy's radio and we'll be back right after this awesome. Thank you guys. Y'all don't overlook the cheap stuff that's the idea behind our podcast. Good will hunting. We've got a beer insider up your outsider and a guy who's gonna shoot it to you straight dry at all. Some ain't bet i would. I'm going to finish this. And i drink another that. We think i'm digging it. Others might leave a bad taste in your mouth. Feels like beer for people who want to feel like they're drinking crappier participant pressuring letdown. It's not something i would want to wake up with. Do i like to have a cold. Beer can rinse out that more breath. No okay to eat will have to check out. Good will hunting wherever you get your podcast. You season is here and the in kennesaw georgia has plenty of outdoor space for you. 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I'm great how you doing. Good man good and you mentioned you had a a small festival so to speak. It's your brewery little intimate event right. Yeah we did. A mini festival called propagation that we hope to make a little bit bigger next year but it was april and good word and a couple of other. That are here today. Contribute some beer and it went very very smoothly but it was just capped at fifty people for sessions very lucky. That's a good time man. I'm glad to be back outside having some fun. Seeing friends but shake. We've got one of your bruce here right now. What are we supposed. That is one of the point. Today it is called canary and it is dry hot percents low abc's on sesana follow conditioned and it uses a yeast that we isolated from elder flowers that grew outside our original location. Okay you know. When people say are low alcohol beers. I al- almost always go to a pills ner in my head. That's just mentally where i go to. But there's a huge variety out here today for the mix cultures like said brian. He said there's espn. Vienna loggers are and even a half out there somewhere for all the madness. There's stoute's importers here too. So what is the lowest. Abc beer you do. That may surprise people. How low the alcohol well. We are pouring in english mild. It's three and a half today. But we also have a adjunct called pram. That's three percent. Wow three percent. It will take a lot of those for me to tie on a buzz. That sounds like a plan. That's a plan to get me to buy more of you can give it a world that goes. I was home during in english. Mild and i had some left the keg. And then i needed to use the kegs. So i thought you know. There's probably two pints left. i'll just drink it and then be done with it. I end up drinking like about five of them or actually ten. And i just kept going and it's just a solo. Ab it just doesn't really do anything which is nice. You're trying to hang out all day. It'll make you run to the bathroom lot. Yeah he probably did you get to the point. You're challenging yourself. Like i'm going to get a little buzz off this one way or i was living in a world gave it his best effort shot. Gunning esp smiles. Now when we talk to you before jake you do. I think are called low intervention wines. Is that right. Do they do any low. Ab winds are you just kind of controlled by. What's in your grapes happening there. Oh yeah we do if you really excited about this so we just had our first wine release two weeks ago and one of them was a cat which is four and a half percent wine made from second you scrapes so you take the palm s. That's left over after crushing and pressing and you attach water along with some sugar and a little low gravity wine that drinks surprisingly body and full flavor because the skin still have a lot of flavor left okay and i was kind of small but we have an orange cat coming up and it's all i'm going to drink the summer it's awesome. It's a party. Guile of wine. Right i was. I was just trying to think of the term for that. The party gal so that the happens in wine as well as beer i it makes a lot of sense. You get a lot of raw material. Leftover why not right. yeah in one misconception. I kind of had before we started doing this a lot. We can use fruit to is that. It's just a way to stretch your money. But that's not really what it is the flavors a lot different because your skin ratio's like way higher you're pulling a lot more tannin's and also it's way more. Condensed ten pounds of thomas is kind of like one hundred pounds of grapes right. That's pretty interesting. I did not know they had second use on grapes like that. So that's pretty cool to make it. Stretch your beverages out. We've done think we've done stoute's and porter party guile the the cezanne a like a higher. Abc's on table beer kind of thing before. So that's always those are fun. Yeah yeah and. I guess you can't really make dog biscuits out of pumice like you can with like spent rain right. You get grapes poisoned dark blue. Dark kenny grapes or raisins. That's talks okay. Now that makes sense that they couldn't eat raisins. They're just concentrated grapes. So so the answer to your question. Brian is a solid. No treats out of that you can. You should never give them two dogs just ornamental. Yes ornamental chris airdrie. That's our moment of sanity for the show. Ornamental dog treats that you just lay around the house jake. What types of little beers do you dig. What what do you go for on the weekend. You're kicking the three and a half percent or twelve. Pack to be honest typically drank whatever new thing we just put out regardless of what stylized like everything in. It's new drank it less. So it's more appealing to me but when it comes to two small beers that will the cat like i mentioned drink a lot of and then you know obviously loggers and stuff like that too but when we released our mild i drank like six on a saturday and you know it was fine time so though it's nice i'm loving. That lagers are cool. I've been about three years predicting i'm there on it pills. Nurse comeback these lighter lagers are coming back and finally you know it's starting to get. There's a beer fest forum so that'd be a good thing. How much variation do you do in lagers. It's your berry like how much the experiment there. So we have a pills that we do held coast and then all the loggers used different eastern and our treat a little bit more differently. They get more lawyering time. All of them are naturally carbonated valve. And then we really try to make use of like a log. Different types of interesting hills or molten. Another virginia grown green to. We're very fortunate to have a farmer that grows a lot of grain khalil spring and they have some some access that they can sell us. They're actually here today. Okay cool so. I would like you to explain what spun valve is. Because i don't actually know what it is. I feel like. I should by this point in time. Yes opening valve is is just Jerseys fairmount but they just kind of cap. The carbonation essentially pressure relief valve. That you set your certain level. So as the beer's fermenting. It can't dan as rapidly as it would. If you were just blowing it often so it's forced into solution in the beer in carbonates as so you use that valve in you kind of set. Your co two via that vowed like it'll say we want the beer this pressure it's gonna let the rest out exactly. That's pretty awesome. So protecting that That bottle conditioning. Well you. I guess not bottle because finals don't have spending bounce yet not i've seen or cans the expensive Bachelor bottle conditioning. There was buys they would line up to buy kansas funding. Valves can't condition and another one of bryan's great idea you could hang an ornamental. Dog treat on the along the hang it off. Perfect right absolutely. Yeah you get a chance to get out to any of our George of course right here at good word but you make it a trip of this. Yes so we brought a crew here and planned his murder go to braves game and then effort go arches okay and then no terrapin has a very attached to the brave state and they act. It's kind of cool. It's so it's a barbecue place and a brewery the terrapin. at l. brew lab. But if you're in the stadium you can come through the back. You don't have to leave the stadium to get to the terrapin ver- favorite terrapin beers and the easy accesses nicely. I watch the game and the barbecue place has country fried ribs so you think about needing those in your life that would definitely be something to go for their indeed indeed brian. What are you most looking forward to here today. So i am looking forward to trying i. You know what. I've seen a lotta sets here. And that's that excites you've got to gra sets. We got Croisette on the table that was like given to us. I'm loving the style. I sa- right time of year four. It's and it's a stubborn. Forget about so. What style of beer are you interested in trying out. I i gotta be honest. I like the pills nurse. I like the pills. We had an italian pills. Ner from having brooks. That was really good. I'll try them all man. But i was really. If this was all pilsners i wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't hate it. I do the italian pills. Ner jake how about you. What are you looking forward to trying down here anything. That's kind of weird or i haven't had before but see where one eighty there. I'm like give me a good pills. No here he's like. Give me the weird funky that. I haven't tried that. I wonder what the strangest thing we've got out here today is. I haven't looked to see who got the craziest with their little beers. I honestly think just having a stout festival like this little beer festival is a little crazy in itself. I'm imagining it's more than just stop but who knows i think. The role here is five percent or below so technically five percent. And you could you. Could you could do that. Maybe do the part. Do you big one then. Run you off a small stout porter something like that. Have a little fun with it. Yeah jake do you find brewing. The small beers harder than brewing. The higher gravity beers more challenge. Because there's not a lot there honestly to hide behind it really depends but yes. It's hard to get some of these beers to be balanced especially session. Ip as everybody wants out these days so that's hard walked the pastry five percents. That's possible right yeah. Well you're listening to the beer guy's radio jake. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Enjoy your time here. And we'll we'll be back. 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That doesn't sound like a little beer though in is not okay nine. I want to know what a wombat even is. I've heard of him. I have no idea so. It's really cool. they poop. Oh all right so so so so there's finger is actually the second a square poop cubes because their territorial so you mark your territory as you do and apparently different. Sections of australia are on a grade. So if you've poop a cube sounded really good in my headphones if you if you poop accu- ideal sound as the old saying goes doesn't roll downhill so cube. It's not gonna roll that that's interesting. I never thought of the important. I'm fond ori. I'm most impressed with squares fainter. Because i don't see how that worked but i wasn't built that way but that's You know okay. Genetics at its finest. How 'bout that man it's surgery just now i'm interested. I don't think toilets are designed that way that's true it's a square peg to around home. Wow this is fast. This is actually a little beer fest. Sorry i'm here. I'm here for marmot. Facts marmot fouls. You can subscribe to that list. So shagman marmot tax andrew. Little beer then man. What's the some of the little beers uber. There at how we brew very little little beers. So are you doing here man. I was born in marietta and Todd is very nice to talk to get there so yeah. They wanted a brewer. And i'm here you go. What's the brain. What did you bring. you had to bring something kind of smallish right. We did so we brought a chain not. Oh what a night or tonight. An italian i don't speak italian so hopefully translating as appropriately as i can. But it's sal very low spun did traditional malt powered nice and And then we brought backwards so backwards is exactly what that is so we're going to go back to nineteen ninety-six and we're gonna pour you a highly carbonated mixed fermentation cezanne as they did. Better in nineteen ninety-six. Yes backwards okay. Yeah twenty five years ago. Do you get into the pelvis. You guys play in the pills new territory. There we do so we have a original brew house which is a barrel brew house on one avenue in buffalo. That was where we actually opened in started. And now i work. At the production facility was a thirty barrel brew house. Our processing ninety barrel fermenters and one hundred fifty brel from it so we make a lot of production beer. We don't get to have a lot of fun ryan Chuck i'm going to shout out to him Ryan he's he's a fantastic guy and he does a lot of are smaller batch stuff and He's the guy that gets to have fun and tool around a little bit. you're cranking them out though right. Yes we mix business with pleasure as much as we can to talk a little dirty. We were talking off the air you said in your time you've been known to maybe live the highlife right. I do live the highlife. Yes i like to drink. Cheap inexpensive beer. Let's say you can only drink macro lockers. Okay is highlight. the one you're going for. I will actually go to the side and say okay. I mean highlights is great nor light is a little later. He's now see your new york. You should be hitting the ginny cream. That's right now jenny. Red is all day but you can get that rid of white beard. The regular red the green can right now. Just the regular pre new decree mail has yet So it's got some corn in there. It's a little bit sweeter say it has. I don't get to about that when it comes to drinking cheap there but jenny riser. Their full flavored lagers. So when you see jenny. It's jenny lager. But they come in white can and they've got a nice big red jenny logo on the front. And so that's why red is okay industry term Just like utica club With to new york club but we call him. Uncle charlie's uncle charlie's you see man. Yeah yeah uncle. Charlie's i'll keep an eye out for that. I wonder if that does secretly come down here except seen some variants on sheni on the shelf once or twice. The guys at jenny are fantastic. People to us They help us out with some analytics as we need. And they're great. If you have not had genesee beer you should totally have beer. I will my desert island. Beer would probably be jenny crame. If not those player jenny read. I love if we're going macro man. I gotta ask some hamm's and they're doing answer is also a good good choice. Yeah so we were talking before we got on the segment here into you said you do some teaching right look at beer certificate teaching beer science certificate. Right i do so. I teach virtual care college in new york. We're doing difficult program. It was an eight week program. Now it's a little more exaggerated due to covid times and things like that so we're doing a lot mobile. Teaching new york is fairly strict when it comes to regulations not so much in the past week or so but they were very very strict for awhile and it was tough to get on campus and in person and as anyone knows Brewing is a physical science. So you really need to be there. You need to make sure that that happens. You an education as far as that concern can be hard but yes we are trying to do our best to to make sure that we have a good pool of people to pull from. You know you're trying to make the best beer. in buffalo. New york were very small comparatively speaking. There's not a lot of large or regional breweries unless you look at like genesee or southern tier things like that so being in a smaller city with some smaller regional breweries having that pool of knowledge poll from is hard. You know a lot of import if you wanna find someone that's trained and has the experience and it's tough sometimes interest in the courses i guess pre pandemic. How long have you been doing the teaching I've been teaching for about three. Semesters so i i used to see. I a nice kind of community college for a semester. And then i just my second year okay. Full stop man. I've seen more and more schools are getting the bruins ticket programs training people up for brewing himself. Well it's tough because we we try to internship as well and a lot of people don't want people that they don't know or or or bringing in because of the times the times to let someone that you don't know in your brew house right at that point if you don't have a lot of experience you're more of a liability so it's true. It's a hard ask. That's we've seen a lot of collaboration that have been long distance collaborations virtual collaboration. So it's It'll be cool. I've already heard a few burs. Saint hand can't wait to get back to you know going. Out and visiting my brewer friends amenable to collaborate with them and actually brew together in the berries. Being out here is beautiful. I miss atlanta very very much. Like i said i was. I was born in marietta wants pay. County is so it's i. I miss being down here. I miss the red clay. I miss the heat. And i won't say that i miss the humidity but i do true even today. We've got a few clouds taking care of us when you look at the weather report before the festival it was supposed to rain exactly like the hours of the fast not before after just right on the festival but we've done okay and escape in that we really have. We've had a a river of spent beer run through the Our little our little butts of your terms of humidity coming down from the sky. No it's been it's been pretty clear. Yeah so folks wanna find out more about what's happening at available now. We are in about eleven. St georgia is not one of them until today and hopefully car now regardless of what we're working on it we're out. Were around if you've got a a craft beer provider. I don't know a lot of shops are are things that are down here. 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Thanks for joining us for having. Thanks for having this. Is your jam right. A little beer fest. This fits really well with halfway crocetta. Yes i fest. We've done in a very long time. And i think it's like one of the best that's awesome right. We've only done like what to so. This is definitely not talk to now before we get into any beer talk. Let's talk about hats. sweatshirts. I think so. Laager lager laager lager four lagers right there score. A lot of people say three. But there's lager log homer so those really kind of took on a life of their own right ahead any why. There's something so simple. Why do you think that's the simplicity. The statement of it. I think it's yeah. I think it might be the shape. The letters at forms. This beautiful like Half moon situation right. I think people respond to that shape. Thanks way yeah. I feel more at peace. Seeing that hat on a person said without yeah. I think a lot of the things that we do are pretty subtle. But that's one of the things that we do that that's probably not subtle. Maybe see people in the world. Where in the hat sweatshirt and stuff you'll look on instagram and see brewers everywhere with those so. It's interesting to see the way that took all had reciprocal out outside the country. I drive to dhl twice a lot. Yeah i've seen them in germany before pretty crazy that's the furthest away. How far away do they get results on. The russia right england belgium belgium scandinavia italy. They're everywhere everywhere everywhere. So fear's guys you've recently done. You did a calls fast with a traditional call service twenty-seven liter glasses and you empty one and there's another one there waiting for you. Which i personally think is the way all right and yet check beard as i think that just wrapped up for your recently that right. That's right and that was a good time came out. We had the there was a representative from the consulate. We did right got to see the area. We had the toast. Yeah they came down. We we reached out to them because we wanted to make sure we Kinda did the festival ride and had A good representation of czech culture and food and beer bay signed off on okay. Their shack approved. Yeah did they request that you change anything from your previous plants. You're thinking about having peacocks or something like that and say nope. Nope not part of czech culture. We don't want them. I mean they kind of added to the conversation mostly so we were. We had a couple ideas but they really brought most of those ideas to live like the maypole their festival centers a little bit more around folklore and things like that and and we wanted to have some of that symbolism as well so i think if anything. They've definitely gave us really great. You know you are one of my favorites of the check for days. The sat it was three and a half percent. Is that right. Three point nine three point nine man. I could've sat there. It was a beautiful day that kickoff there. What was it mid seventy sunny beer garden. Low a. b. beers What's the set. Tell us about that when you are on. So it means ten and tech said ten plato and low alcohol very drinkable beer. We just got Some checks is in this year from a pharma desertification which has been kinda typical defined size Having trouble with global warming as far as like the climate goes like it's a harder hop to grow recently so we finally found like a farm that your gates their size and we were really excited to get that variety and direct saucer. So maybe you don't know this but it's not typical in europe to irradiates said. I'm not a farmer. So i wouldn't know no. We had some sauces before and they were on and off yes. We're really happy with this year. The quality was a little bit. Yeah wavy and This is very. It's an amazing hop. I mean we actually tried. It was stand and he was basically saying that. If beer's not good we did something wrong. Wasn't the hawks pressure at all. Just says the hop sky right. So i saw stand out here stan. Honda's we had him on a couple of weeks ago on friday livestream talk. Tops talked about specifically Good words hops in the relationships. Yeah there but the fast in as getting ready to relocate to denver the and we're gonna miss him going to miss them out. If you're sean you're on do both you guys brew or is it hurt me but for and then we just tired joe. Joe's helping us out as well. So yeah he's been great. Joe pissy brute scofflaw. And i think he's came on around my what to two months ago three months. He's when people visit good work because you guys went into what is known as atlanta's summerhill neighborhood and you're on the front end of the revitalization down there because the area it wasn't great before that right down by turner field. What made you kind of shoot for that location. What made you go down there. We were on our bikes one day. And we've been here quite a bit. Especially i used to be at season ticket holder for the braves and we're pretty upset when they they left town and We were just kind of riding our bikes around and saw these beautiful buildings and We really wanted a brewery that felt cozy and lived in and and celebrated like kinda the history of atlanta architecture and a lot of these billions of being torn down as as. We all know seeing the developments. go up. So we really enamored by these buildings and Just kind of kept the next day. Someone called us and they were basically like we heard you. You wanted to start a brewery and we have acquired these buildings on georgia avenue and the just kind of went from there. That's cool that's end sean. The interior decorating. That's a little inspired by right. Yeah it's inspired by both of us. sounds background like computer science electrical engineering and we we blended together with like all belgian beer bar fail so like we have Tv's that play old programming electronic stuff and then like the bar now is belgium inspires like the tile in front of the bar. I agree actually just recently. A friend of sean built like a spark us. Hey why woes. Tell me more. Tell me more so if you go to traditional bells and bars you can really see it over there. And it's like a savings account so it's like a big wooden box with different slots so all the regulars have their own slot and they would put their spare money in there or if you knew somebody was a need you put your money in his slot and then they would open it up when you ran out of money or were different variations but you would basically if you were out of money you could use the money that was in savings box so beer it forward basic sure needed an extrovert down with that. Talking about the design of the place the biggest thing. The most important thing i think is that rooftop beer garden area with that ruth that roofing you have is insane and i love. I love it. You can be up there and it can be open when there's What it's a nice day and it can be closed when it's raining cats and dogs. We've been there both times. that's great. Who came up with that idea. What is it even call. Actually it's like a louvred. Rufus le made by a company called structure and we wanted to have events up there and kind of have separate kind of spacex. We had a lot of duality. Not conversations about the burri like we wanted. These different types of fills up upstairs being more beer garden phil kind of more fun and downstairs. Become more cosy. Originally the we're not going to have a roof and we kind of decided later in our design process to get this roof in order to just hold events of their rain or shine and it turned out to be very advantageous during the pandemic. Yeah oh yeah. I can't imagine your spot without that now out there so it's a good time to go down there some small beers. What are you guys enjoyed out here. The most today. I've enjoyed divine barrels check fear of like shillings offerings as well. Yeah jellicoe zelikow people out. I actually visited there not long ago and they got some great cezanne's i've been meaning to Follow up on that. They make amazing amazing beer. As i've enjoyed the chase each i. I said that right italian filter. We've seen quite a few of those good good little beer style. You've got both of those here today. Metric savita is a collaboration with folks. Pierre he's here is wrong. Okay oh all right. All the cool kids are here man. It's time sean your honor if people wanna keep up with what's going on half halfway crooks. What's the best way to do that. I was just far instagram. That has mostly Up to date information sites. Pretty good to go guys. Thanks very much for joining us. We appreciate it. 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