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"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The CyberWire

The CyberWire

08:17 min | 1 year ago

"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The CyberWire

"Joining me once again. Ben yellen he's from the university of maryland center for health and homeland security. And also my co host on the podcast caveat. Which if you have not checked out yet what are you waiting for. Listen ben. Welcome back thanks dave We would be remiss if we did not discuss The recent Hubbub from apple's announcement that they are going to be scanning ios devices for See sam which is Child sexual abuse materials Can we just do a quick overview here from your point of view. What's going on here. So apple is doing two things. They are both scanning i messages. If a parent ops in there scanning the messaging application on ios devices for nude images for minors so if a minor is between thirteen eighteen years old the minor would be notified. Would get an alert would them. You're about to send receive a new image. This is a warning that message would go to the parents if it's a child under thirteen. I think there are fewer civil liberties objections to that particular announcement from apple The announcement that presents more significant civil liberties concerns in my view is the announcement that apple is going to scan photos in the eye cloud against a known database of child pornographic images And if they discover that a an image is matches one that's in that database they could potentially share that information with the government and that would lead to a criminal prosecution right now. The the sticky wicked here is that there are plenty of tech companies who are scanning their cloud services for these sorts of images that is routine at this point. Facebook google dropbox. They all do that. What sets apple apart is their plan is to do the scanning on device right so it's not just in the cloud it's on the device itself and there's no technological reason they couldn't scan a hard drive for example they're making a policy choice to confine this right now to photos that are posted on an i cloud but the technology exists to search it on. Somebody's devise even if they don't post that photo to the cloud so this presents many potential civil liberties concerns. It's not per se fourth amendment violation. Because this is a private company But the government of course knowing that apple has instituted this practice. This policy is going to know that they probably have access to information. That would be valuable for criminal prosecutions and we know. The government has tried hard to get apple to reveal encrypted communications to give the government access to encrypted communications and it's not just our government even though this program is being piloted in the united states. It certainly eventually will be available to overseas governments that are far less concerned with Civil rights and civil liberties and even though it's being used right now for a csi am It could be used for other purposes to scan images to scan messages for Disfavored political content or for censorship purposes. So the idea is once you build this technology and once you put it into practice as apple plans to do over the next several months then you have created this back door and even though you are trying you are claiming to confine the use of this technology in the short term. Once the technology is created apple is going to be under enormous pressure from governments around the world to use it for a more expanded purposes. And so that's the inherent danger here. We should mention that users do have the ability to opt out. If you don't use apples. I cloud photos service your photos on your device. According to apple won't even be scanned. They won't be looked at unless you're using their cloud services But that doesn't seem to be putting people at ease. Yes so first of all as i said before. That's a policy choice. That's not a technological choice apple of course still could scan your device They do it for a bunch of other purposes right on fine mall. Malware on your Mac book for example right So that's not necessarily anything new. That's a policy choice that they're making now. And i think the concern is that this is going to be a slippery slope. Where a government says. If you really care about stopping child exploitation. Why can find these searches justify. Does that have been posting. I cloud why can't you also search you know photos that have been saved a hard drive or even you know have been You know just saved on on a single device. So i think that's the concern. That's more of a slippery slope. Think the fact that this is apple kerry's You know an increased weight as opposed to another service provider apple presents itself as You know being very committed to user privacy the protection of users information That's how it sells themselves themselves. That's how they present themselves publicly. And so i think this cuts against One of their professed corporate values which is the protection of private information. They're putting a tough place Because obviously to be against this it seemingly to be against rooting out sexual exploitation of minors right. The intentions here are very noble on. I think we have to acknowledge that. I think we have to acknowledge That the problem that they're trying to solve his of course of the utmost importance right But you know. I think the method in which there Engaging in this type of surveillance of their own users could come back to those users. And so i think we have to be honest about that as well. It also strikes me that this is In some ways apple has a corporate culture. I believe of kind of knowing what's best for our users. yes right. it's and it's that old you know like henry ford said you know if i'd asked my users what they wanted. They would have said they needed. You know better faster horses or buggy whips or you know something along those lines but and so apple along in their history has said you know. You don't need that floppy drive anymore. You don't need that headphone jack anymore. And i think that aligns with apple surprise at the backlash here. I think apple thought that they they did. The hard work of designing would is i think most people agree a very clever technological solution to this and yet people are still having a very strong reaction. Yeah i think a couple of things go into that One is we have values in this country about protecting private information. Some of that is inherent in Our legal system the fourth amendment protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures. So even though this as of now isn't an action the government is taking it does seem contrary to our values where we don't want anybody in our protected private spaces And that certainly includes technological spaces including the i cloud where we store our photos. So i think that's a huge part of it. The other part of it. Like i said is the fact that this is supposed to be the company that most stringently protect sees privacy and so if apple is doing it then what does that mean for every other company that doesn't present themselves as protecting our private information. And what does it mean for. Technological companies that are based overseas and more authoritarian countries. Are they gonna learn from apple. And deploy this technology in a way doesn't just target sensitive exploitative image as that sort of thing it's used to go into messaging applications to go into photos and try and crackdown on free speech or political sense and i think those are. That's kind of the nature of the backlash as i see it all right well. There's much more to this conversation. And in fact we spend the entire episode of Caveat this week discussing.

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"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

07:51 min | 2 years ago

"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

"So i mean i can't. I can't get the blatant road. Cast bottle of blanton's will last me like three years three years. Yeah i by. No one knows it. I could drinking by the way over. Here are responsible. Well it's more like you're pissing. Everybody off with their sober tone. So you can imagine me like starting starting my fifth blanton's at the bar like oh good gravy but no i'm glad we got w and i'm glad we again another game of books football. Hopefully not against the saints but just take what are we there you go there. You go big man. I still got him lining up on me here. You got people ended outside like us a club on ladies night so i'll let you go all right. Guys go books. We'll see you next week. All right big fudge user. We'll do it. We'll do it ran. We already know that this is an international phone. international podcasts. tonight we've had one call from the uk. We have another one now from australia. Believes tuning in it is it is dawn. It is what time is it in australia's full on daylight down there. It's thirty austin and nice. I gotta tell you. The australian accents my favorite action. Hold in thank you for all the time. I rish is my favorite. But always something. I always say like. Everyone calmed down. The world's not going to end today because it's already tomorrow in australia. You from lockdown where we got locked in a couple of days ago void some carbon. So there you go did news the house. We've had some covert on the podcast but it doesn't go through the internet. Also what's on your mind tonight. Tampa bay buccaneers winning first playoff game in over thirteen eighteen years. I know i know it's been a while miami more in the retro jazzy. Say the super bowl pace. You know it was good. It was just wasn't as clean as what i think. We'll hustle sharm goldwyn art. Let me ask you this. Are we at a point now. With the buccaneers. Where if the team doesn't come out and have like no drops. Everybody's catching an interception. The secondary's not shutting down every wide receiver. That's out there. The defensive line isn't shutting down the run that we're gonna be unsatisfied with the game regardless if we win or not like are we are we at that point as bucks fans expectations hard and what they have been poss but But yeah i think worth. And i mean even donovan. Smith played well it. Wasn't anybody got a job done right. Donald smith played well enough hold on donald smith played well enough. They brought him to the podium for a post game press conference. Oh yeah they only do that with the guys that did well right. Yeah yeah. I was disappointed with the constant toronto pressure the qb. I think they knew that this as a little bit strong guy from constantly. Probably not and he was seeing every taunts and dancing around them. And so i think i think they need to adjust that for next week. Because if i'd say we're playing drew brees so he's not gonna he's not going to He'll be at a sign welcoming obviously. Eat hot as well as heineke. But he'll shut us. The pace selling all adjusts. It'll be interesting to see how we gonna wake up like rent. I think will be in new orleans and the d'arme so i think the bears will will trouble in too much. Yeah yeah i'm with you. I have full confidence of defensive. Game plan will look different than it did from today. In definite look different from did from the second saints game when we got embarrassed on national tv Was a thirty one to three. But you know you're right. Exhortations are are kind of high in canada through the roof and sense. I think this ryan with books fans. And i do it to sometime. It's like what since we only watched the bucks. Mostly you know so. We don't really watch like all of the chiefs games but we don't watch all of the steelers games of so we don't see the games where like like. I didn't watch the game. Where they barely beat the falcons like you know just a week ago or were. They barely beat the chargers like in week. Seven like they had they had to come back late and those are games like. I'm sure cheese sandwich. Like what's going on. But i mean they went fourteen into but we watch a lot of college. And so we see like alabama beat the crap out of everybody clemson just beat the crap out of everybody so that in our minds. That's what like a great team does. So it's sort of this thing. Where sense you know on sundays. Bucks are watching. Buck gains. not the other games but on saturdays are watching these college football team. Does you know. rake over everybody and subconsciously. We think if we don't see that type of performance from our professional football team then it's like you know it's back to the drawing but you know all teams are like that. I'm sure like you know up your buffalo's having the same conversations you know. It doesn't matter how good you are in the big cities like new york chicago With big radio markets these people. That's that's what fans do. So i understand brent saying like it's never going to be good enough but we sorry. Excuse me it's also boring. Come on here and be like hey like survived advance. What do you think everybody have a good night like. There's some things you need to talk about so sure You know defensively to what you said like. I definitely think it's all going to change What we see. Just i just hope That whatever they pick works early and they don't have to change it. You know somewhere halfway through the second quarter changed at halftime But i don't think honestly this offense has really clicking and this was supposed to be you know defense defense like washington why they had never let him over twenty points and this and that and we put up over five hundred yards and thirty three points thirty thirty one but missed two extra points and also went one for four in the red zone and put up over thirty on his defense and we and i know atlanta twice in detroit and minnesota. But you saw the points. We put up on these guys. You know this. This team has like the finished the season from the second half of atlanta game. I think they punted three times. Did a victory formation one interception and scored every single time. They had the ball. That's two and a half games. That's insane so you know we're in it man. It doesn't matter who we play doesn't matter defensively faith. It doesn't matter how bad our defense plays honestly we're going to be in every right and it's going to be fun. I i want to remind people of this Because the soul to this out during the game last week fun fact with every game that. The buccaneers this year have scored over twenty four points. They've won and now in nine of their eleven wins. They've scored over thirty nine of their twelve wins over the season. They have scored over thirty points. So you know the rent. You know we talked about it. I don't remember if it was last week. During the peter cast live or if it was during the buck in the new show we used to say it was raised to forty. Now it's a race to twenty four. Yeah you know. And and that's just gives twenty four. Yeah there you go there you go there you go. What else you got forest buddy on. That's good i Been been listening. Man yeah thanks listener. I've been pretty actually pretty good contingent down in australia. Yeah we do. Yeah we've got a contingent australia show.

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"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

08:14 min | 2 years ago

"thirteen eighteen years" Discussed on The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

"Know just a little bit normally don't but i was a little weird today. Ref is going to cost us game but we pulled it out. I'm glad there's another week of bucks football and another day for me to drink a lot of bourbon. So what your suburban choice. I'm in kentucky. Boy what's the bourbon choice turkey lately. I've been drinking this e. h. t. stuff from buffalo trace distillery buffalo choice. I'm in. I'm an old woodford reserve guy i really am. It's that's a personal chew. Blanton's automaker index money though. So i mean i can't. I can't get the blatant road. Cast bottle of blanton's will last me like three years three years. Yeah i by. No one knows it. I could drinking by the way over. Here are responsible. Well it's more like you're pissing. Everybody off with their sober tone. So you can imagine me like starting starting my fifth blanton's at the bar like oh good gravy but no i'm glad we got w and i'm glad we again another game of books football. Hopefully not against the saints but just take what are we there you go there. You go big man. I still got him lining up on me here. You got people ended outside like us a club on ladies night so i'll let you go all right. Guys go books. We'll see you next week. All right big fudge user. We'll do it. We'll do it ran. We already know that this is an international phone. international podcasts. tonight we've had one call from the uk. We have another one now from australia. Believes tuning in it is it is dawn. It is what time is it in australia's full on daylight down there. It's thirty austin and nice. I gotta tell you. The australian accents my favorite action. Hold in thank you for all the time. I rish is my favorite. But always something. I always say like. Everyone calmed down. The world's not going to end today because it's already tomorrow in australia. You from lockdown where we got locked in a couple of days ago void some carbon. So there you go did news the house. We've had some covert on the podcast but it doesn't go through the internet. Also what's on your mind tonight. Tampa bay buccaneers winning first playoff game in over thirteen eighteen years. I know i know it's been a while miami more in the retro jazzy. Say the super bowl pace. You know it was good. It was just wasn't as clean as what i think. We'll hustle sharm goldwyn art. Let me ask you this. Are we at a point now. With the buccaneers. Where if the team doesn't come out and have like no drops. Everybody's catching an interception. The secondary's not shutting down every wide receiver. That's out there. The defensive line isn't shutting down the run that we're gonna be unsatisfied with the game regardless if we win or not like are we are we at that point as bucks fans expectations hard and what they have been poss but But yeah i think worth. And i mean even donovan. Smith played well it. Wasn't anybody got a job done right. Donald smith played well enough hold on donald smith played well enough. They brought him to the podium for a post game press conference. Oh yeah they only do that with the guys that did well right. Yeah yeah. I was disappointed with the constant toronto pressure the qb. I think they knew that this as a little bit strong guy from constantly. Probably not and he was seeing every taunts and dancing around them. And so i think i think they need to adjust that for next week. Because if i'd say we're playing drew brees so he's not gonna he's not going to He'll be at a sign welcoming obviously. Eat hot as well as heineke. But he'll shut us. The pace selling all adjusts. It'll be interesting to see how we gonna wake up like rent. I think will be in new orleans and the d'arme so i think the bears will will trouble in too much. Yeah yeah i'm with you. I have full confidence of defensive. Game plan will look different than it did from today. In definite look different from did from the second saints game when we got embarrassed on national tv Was a thirty one to three. But you know you're right. Exhortations are are kind of high in canada through the roof and sense. I think this ryan with books fans. And i do it to sometime. It's like what since we only watched the bucks. Mostly you know so. We don't really watch like all of the chiefs games but we don't watch all of the steelers games of so we don't see the games where like like. I didn't watch the game. Where they barely beat the falcons like you know just a week ago or were. They barely beat the chargers like in week. Seven like they had they had to come back late and those are games like. I'm sure cheese sandwich. Like what's going on. But i mean they went fourteen into but we watch a lot of college. And so we see like alabama beat the crap out of everybody clemson just beat the crap out of everybody so that in our minds. That's what like a great team does. So it's sort of this thing. Where sense you know on sundays. Bucks are watching. Buck gains. not the other games but on saturdays are watching these college football team. Does you know. rake over everybody and subconsciously. We think if we don't see that type of performance from our professional football team then it's like you know it's back to the drawing but you know all teams are like that. I'm sure like you know up your buffalo's having the same conversations you know. It doesn't matter how good you are in the big cities like new york chicago With big radio markets these people. That's that's what fans do. So i understand brent saying like it's never going to be good enough but we sorry. Excuse me it's also boring. Come on here and be like hey like survived advance. What do you think everybody have a good night like. There's some things you need to talk about so sure You know defensively to what you said like. I definitely think it's all going to change What we see. Just i just hope That whatever they pick works early and they don't have to change it. You know somewhere halfway through the second quarter changed at halftime But i don't think honestly this offense has really clicking and this was supposed to be you know defense defense like washington why they had never let him over twenty points and this and that and we put up over five hundred yards and thirty three points thirty thirty one but missed two extra points and also went one for four in the red zone and put up over thirty on his defense and we and i know atlanta twice in detroit and minnesota. But you saw the points. We put up on these guys. You know this. This team has like the finished the season from the second half of atlanta game. I think they punted three times. Did a victory formation one interception and scored every single time. They had the ball. That's two and a half games. That's insane so you know we're in it man. It doesn't matter who we play doesn't matter defensively faith. It doesn't matter how bad our defense plays honestly we're going to be in every right and it's going to be fun. I i want to remind people of this Because the soul to this out during the game last week fun fact with every game that. The buccaneers this year have scored over twenty four points. They've won and now in nine of their eleven wins. They've scored over thirty nine of their twelve wins over the season. They have scored over thirty points. So you know the rent. You know we talked about it. I don't remember if it was last week. During the peter cast live or if it was during the buck in the new show we used to say it was raised to forty. Now it's a race to twenty four. Yeah you know. And and that's just gives twenty four. Yeah there you go there you go there you go. What else you got forest buddy on. That's good i Been been listening. Man yeah thanks listener..

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The Suitcase Murder

True Crime Brewery

13:45 min | 3 years ago

The Suitcase Murder

"Welcome to hurry. I'm Jill and I'm Dick the bill and Melanie McGuire were an attractive couple in their thirties. They had two young sons to successful careers and they just disclosed and a five hundred thousand dollar home when bill disappeared. Melanie told their friends that they had fought on the night when they closed on their new home bill bill had physically attacked her and walked out telling her he was done with her buildings seem like the type of guy who would hit his wife and lead his children behind but Melanie insisted that he had hit her and walked out on his family. She even went to court and took out a restraining order against bill as the days passed did no one heard from bill. Melanie appeared to be moving on with her life without him but bills family and friends were worried bill had been a gambler may get pissed off the wrong people then a bizarre story got everyone's attention. I A Kenneth Cole suitcase was found in Virginia Beach and it contained aimed a pair of bloodless male human legs that had been severed at the knees one week later Virginia Beach Police recovered a second suitcase that was part of the same in Kenneth Cole set it held a five pound weight black trash bags and more human remains this time it was a man's head in torso but here this man was and when he had been killed were still unknown then the third last suitcase was recovered within two weeks it contains the man's hips and thighs. Virginia Beach Police launched an extensive investigation to identify the victim and identified him as Bill McGuire join us at the quiet in today for a very haunting case that became known as the suitcase murder well respected fertility nurse Melanie he McGuire was accused of her husband's murder and dismemberment and she faced life in prison. Although her attorney would argue her innocence a complex unraveling reveling of the facts would reveal a twisted murder plot which grew from infidelity greed and hate New Jersey case means new New Jersey near yeah figured I'm assuming she killed him in New Jersey. That's the belief yes. She didn't dump his body parts in New Jersey. I don't think now aw but the killing was done so I picked a beer called head high which is brewed by Kane Brewing Company in Ocean New Jersey Far Southern Jersey assist the shore head high is an American. It A in at six point six percent alcohol by volume pretty nice beer hazy orange colour. You're a whitehead some pretty lace aroma of citrus and pine. We have a citrus taste upfront grapefruit and tangerine primarily then some pine nine overlaps and Caramel Mo- nicely hop beer good bitterness the nice beer more vo west coast. IPA TRY IT. That sounds Cilicia. I love that kind of beer. This is your Beer Jill. Yes okay. Let's open that up right away. All right lead the way why down to the quiet end in you can begin our story. Bill McGuire was born in nineteen sixty four in river edge. New Jersey the two older sisters his father worked as a pressman for the New York. Times and his mother stayed home with kids. A billy was the baby of the family family. He got a lot of attention. Here's a cute but very rambunctious kid now when he was four years old his parents divorced bill's mother had to take a job to support the children so she worked the night shift wild bill's oldest sister. Cindy babysat her siblings the Mon- Work Six nights a week so Sunday began to feel like she was a second mother to Bill Leeann. I think bill really looked at her that way even as an adult or you're she had a very maternal influence on his life and when bill was twelve his sister. Cindy moved out and married a guy named bill. Gosh he was an older man who was a pharmacist first and then bills other sister. Nancy moved out as well. Their parents had divorced and remarried a few times so it was very unstable. Environment Sir remarried controller yes back and forth while and Nancy would later accused their father of sexually abusing her too so there's a lot going on in the home sounds work so bill went to Catholic school and he was a decent B. Student. He was quite outgoing and a lot of friends when he was just fifteen ran ran away from home and went to live with Cindy and her husband and he did live with them for a while but eventually left after not following all of her household rules because Cindy was strict then after that he went to his sister Nancy but she didn't have room for him so for awhile bill lived with his high school coach and then he lived with the family of one of his best friends so this is kind of a hard scrabble life he had in his teens assurances. Just been a Roman around yeah. Yeah doesn't have any stability really not much now and we're not really sure what was going on in the home that he felt like he had to run away but it was probably tumultuous between the parents. I mean just the fact that they were together the not together then together the not together. I mean that's that's in stable ripple enough her unstable enough by itself. Yes absolutely so bill was living with his friend. Lenny and his parents and Lenny's twelve year old sister Marcie Darcy got a really big crush on bill so after graduating in nineteen eighty two bill joined the navy thought it would give him some direction in life leaving both his high school girlfriend behind and young Marcy. He broke two hearts when he left the navy bill made friends with a guy named Joe Rice Ace. He was another recruit who was three years older at first. Joe Thought that bill was kind of obnoxious because he was always showing off and telling jokes but then the two men eventually became close friends and bill was very well dressed and bought himself a Camaro which he shouldn't have been able to afford he would admit to Joe that he was opening up checking accounts in fake names and writing bad checks in order to finance the lifestyle that he wanted to live Marino. I got certain needs in my life. I'm just gonNA write checks. I think that's the way he looked at it and remember this is a guy who didn't have much guidance right and he he was really taken with having things that he had had growing up so not to make excuses because it really wasn't a good thing to do of course of course yeah but now that's what he did so in nineteen eighty five. I guess he's been in the service for about three years at this point bill's girlfriend from back home. Lisa flew down in Norfolk to Sam on a weekend. Leave a few months later bill visit Lisa in Vernon New Jersey but their relationship came to an end over well he was in New Jersey Bill. Marcy asked her out on a date and then he and Marcie gradually became a couple and kept in touch with pitcher yes so after Joe Rice married his girlfriend he told bill about how much more money would be making his naval marriage benefits his income nearly doubled after near his girlfriend and then it wasn't too long after that when bill decided to ask Marcie Mary him so a lot of people thought bill just did that to make more money. Let's the impression absolutely his buddies. Tahoe are almost doubled my income so bill's Franken. That's brewing right. We'll marcy was younger though she just graduated from high school but she was very very taken with bill and she accepted did his proposal and she moved down to Virginia to live with bill and to go to College Marsin Bill secretly married in a civil ceremony and then they moved into into a one bedroom apartment together nineteen ninety bill left the navy after earning his associate's degree from tidewater Community College Bill Dylan Marcy Move to Edison New Jersey and he started attending rutgers university where he was going to study pharmacology bill and Marcy moved into an apartment and both took jobs in local restaurants to pay the bills but bill is unhappy then he wanted to split up nineteen ninety two he left. Marcy surprised her. I guess pretty much broker heart 'cause the next two years. She tried to win him back but bill never looked back at Marcy. Who's WHO's dating new women again almost right away after the break-up yeah he had already really checked out of the marriage and then in the summer of nineteen ninety four for a friend of bills introduced him to Melanie slate. The two were attracted to each other and they seem to have a lot in common. They seem to really make a good match. Watch so a little bit about Melanie. Melanie Lynn slate was born in nineteen seventy two in Ridgewood New Jersey. Her father left her mother. When Melanie Melanie was still a baby and then he died a few years later from cancer. Melanie's mother Linda moved back into her appearance on with her daughter and Melanie's Janis Aunts and grandmother helped to raise her her mother. Linda can you to her secretarial job in Manhattan and that's where she began having an affair with her boss Michael Caporetto and that would last for years and Years Melanie grew up beside Michael Cap narrows son Michael Junior and and when Captain Aero finally left his wife he and his son moved in with Linda Melanie but it certainly wasn't the ideal childhood. Her doesn't sound black. Does it now so the kids would go along with Lyndon Michael when they went to Atlantic City Michael Junior and Melanie. You were usually left alone in hotel. Rooms are pretty lengthy times while appearance gambled Michael Senior was such a high stakes gambler learn they were often given comte hotel suites in room service for the children. SA- gambling really can be a serious addiction. WHOA course I've never never really known anyone that has it by Sir with sound of surprise well after I read about this I looked into some other issues with that and children and there is a problem in Atlantic City and Las Vegas of people just Kinda dumping their kids and running off to gamble for days at a time were very often read stories about the type of thing apparent has come the gamble and just dump the kids somewhere. You're gives them a few dollars. Say go under around how fine the gamble one. I think forget about their kids. They get so involved in it because there have been instances was reading about where children have been molested or even kidnapped napped. You know little girls using the restroom in a casino by themselves ECORSE. That's not why s- some horrible things have happened because of this so the only thing I can think is it must be a very strong addiction like drugs for people to leave their kids like that sure immune. A lot of these people are normally holly good parents but this is how Michael and Melanie grew up with a lot of that now even though their parents had some money and they were comps suites they were still abandoned on their own so they became very self sufficient these kids. I guess that's the good part about it. Melanie was really an excellent student and issue reached her teens. She was a beautiful girl. She had long wavy brown hair and a petite figure. She became very self confident and was very flirtatious with the boys at school. Some of the other girls disliked her but melanie had an outward kind. Mr Mr Personality too and she often took weaker girls under her weighing in offered advice on advice and support now. She is an attractive woman you you compare it to an actress. who was that well at Harry? I just mentioned that she looked like what's her name. Marielle and Muster Antonio Veterinary Curry something master Antonio Okay so an actress from like the eighties here yeah yes so she's a good looking woman and she had a lot of freedom when she she was a teenager so that could be a bad combination all this free of within attractive teenage girl she last virginity on a trip to Mexico when she was just thirteen eighteen years old because she and Michael Junior were going out to nightclubs and bars they were just on their own on these vacations so she hooked up with with a Lerman lost her virginity at a young age and then Melanie also began to gamble and she became promiscuous. She slept with older teens when young men who buttered gifts and took her out to fancy restaurants. She was almost like an escort in her teens with some of these older guys and she was his proud of it. She bragged about having affairs with two of her married high schoolteachers as well something to brag about. Isn't it on your teenage girl. You don't the better chance right.

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