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Whats next for police reform after Chauvin conviction
"We've got major news to get to on this friday night. I the cdc has issued new guidance tonight about the johnson and johnson covid vaccine a panel of public health. Experts says it's safe for vaccine providers to once again administer. The one shot the one dose shot. But it'll now come with an additional warning about extremely rare blood clots fifteen cases out of eight million total johnson and johnson shots. The white house says the us has more than nine million doses of the vaccine that can be distributed immediately and on the final day of a world climate summit with more than forty world leaders. President biden argued that confronting the global warming crisis can also benefit the us economy biden pledge to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by half by twenty thirty a goal wrapped into his two trillion dollar infrastructure plan. And tonight there is a new development in the derek. Chauvin case and b. c. news has learned the chauvinist scheduled to be sentenced on june the sixteenth after a jury found him guilty of the charges brought against him in the murder of george. Floyd this week will be remembered for that. Historic verdict and while justice was served in the courtroom. There is still much work to be done on the streets of minneapolis on the streets of america. Because let's not forget. Real justice would be of george floyd. We're still alive. If george floyd could still walk the lakes of minneapolis with his girlfriend and play sports with the kids in his neighborhood and be a father to his seven year old daughter. That would actually be justice. George floyd is not here so justice was not fully served but what. There was was accountability. After deliberating for ten hours a jury of derek chauvin spears delivered a clear message to the former minneapolis. Police officer guilty. Guilty guilty. The jury held derek chauvin accountable for his actions for holding his knee on the neck of george floyd for nine minutes and twenty nine seconds for refusing to let up to george. Floyd cried for help. And even after george floyd wet unconscious and lost his pulse. The jury held dark. Derek chauvin accountable for murdering george floyd and just as powerful as those three guilty verdicts. Was this image of derek. Chauvin getting handcuffed by hennepin county sheriff's deputy and escorted out of the courtroom as a courtesy. It's worth mentioning derek. Chauvin did not afford that to george. Floyd here's how that image reverberated throughout the police community according to congresswoman val demings. Who's the former chief of the orlando police department to see. A former police officer being led away in handcuffs. Surly gets everyone's attention but it. You better believe it gets the attention of the men and women who do that job. It gets the attention of everybody all of the officers but those who the bad ones the ones who should have never been hired in the first place the ones who don't have the mind or the heart to do the job you better believe that image. Got their attention tonight. Derek chauvin is being held in solitary confinement until he returns to that courtroom for sentencing on june the sixteenth. Now the question is whether law enforcement will view. Derek as an anomaly. A one-off bad cop or as a symbol of systemic problems with policing that have unfairly targeted communities of color. Since this country's founding police officers rethink their use of deadly force because it's wrong or because they don't want to end up in jail like derek chauvin. I spent a lot of time in minneapolis. Since george floyd was murdered covering the activism the protests and the continued use of police force. Yesterday i sat down with a group of community leaders in minneapolis to reflect on the week. And how derek chauvin conviction will impact their continued fight for real justice. The whole city took a collective breath just knowing that at least we have a small victory in the larger war right and then the next day we are not ready because we knew the journey would have to continue so all of our plans that we had before whether guilty not guilty or not guilty enough. It still has the continue. That work has to continue. The people of minnesota didn't have to wait for a verdict. In derek chauvin trial to be reminded of the fight for justice and how it is a fight that is ongoing just ten miles from the courthouse while the trial was still underway. Twenty year old. Dante right was shot and killed by police officer. Who said she fired her gun. Instead of a taser as a black minnesotan. I am hurt. I am angered feel this trauma all over again before we can't even you know say that this is such a giant step forward by there being a conviction of derek chauvin. Because we've already taken two steps back by having the killing of dante right happen one of the things. I've thought a lot about is if this verdict perhaps if the trial of wrapped up in the verdict perhaps come out last week. Would maybe dante right still be alive. Because for how would that officer had thought twice the new york times reports that since george floyd's death more than one hundred and forty police oversight bills have been passed at the state level that are meant to hold police officers accountable for their actions and while those reforms are progress even more is needed on a bigger scale to bring real justice. This is the trauma of moral outrage. This is when are very values as individuals as families and communities and a mation have been assaulted and so we need a united federal response to the moral outrage that is being expressed in the country. Right now it's very important for the nation to bear witness and we're talking about the relief of moral trauma. The nation must bear witness. And do the right thing. That's the kind of support that i'm talking about. At the national level the nation must bear witness. And do the right thing letting off our discussion tonight. Mickey levy armstrong a civil rights attorney and former president of the minneapolis and w. And harry colbert editor in chief of north news in minneapolis. Good evening to both of you. Thank you for being with us tonight. The chemo the conversation. I had with a black minnesotans. Yesterday was was remarkably moving remarkably important but there was interesting thread of the idea that they wanted this outcome of this verdict and they did feel that that was accountability but to call a justice some of them felt was a stretch because as they say justice would mean that that dante right was not killed. The george floyd was not killed. That would look like justice not penalty but not having black. People die at the hands of police in the first place absolutely. You're not think. That's that's an important point to articulate or those who are saying. George floyd dot justice. He got a measure of justice. But true justice would be george. Floyd bill bain alive. They'll living his best life still being able to enjoy his time with his family and in his the fact though there was accountability is something that we should be able to celebrate. Take a deep breath because he already molding are connected breath for almost a year. George floyd was murdered at the hands of derek chauvin and three other officers though even for ourselves the're in our mental health. We have to process this in terms of our work. Not be in. Vain will be altered to the streets in demand of justice additionally we have seen changes in some jurisdictions across the country. That wouldn't have happened. We're not for what people witnessed on may twenty fifth of twins. That's something to the or being positive harry. One of the things that the folks i was talking to minneapolis struggled with is what the way forward looks like. There are a lot of people in this country. Who when they heard that verdict thought that justice was done and there are still some who hold that. It wasn't meaning. They didn't think this was derek. Chauvin fault they they find a way to blame the people who die at the hands of police because of some perceived slight or some perceived a petty crime that was committed a washington post. Abc news poll about policing says that sixty percent of americans favor doing more to hold police accountable and thirty three percent saying essay. That laws on policing do too much to interfere with how police officers do their job now. Sixty thirty three split so almost twice as many people think. That police need to be held accountable. But how do we move forward with this. United view. That policing can be different in this country. That black people can feel protected by police. Not just hunted by them empathy. At the end of the day people have to walk a mile and and honestly you really only have to walk a few inches in the shoes of black people to see that there is a duality. When it comes to policing in law enforcement in this community earlier in this segment you show derek chauvin and handcuffs and a lotta people. Focus on those handcuffs. What i looked at when i saw that still photo was actually the taser on the sheriff's belt and the reason i saw that tasers because it's bright it's yellow stands out and that let you know that. That's not a handgun. And so that brings us to dante right. You have these glaring Problems in policing that continue to happen day after day after day will want Twice it's it's an anomaly. League three and more to patter probably got. We got three or more last week. Nikita everybody yesterday. Everybody i was talking to was still talking about derek chauvin but dante right but philan- no casteel one of the gentleman. I was talking to young man. College students said i would not call the police. If i needed help because i don't believe they're here to help me. While they have every reason to be afraid given all of the officer involved killings that have happened on the same day in which the jury verdict was being read. In derek chevron's case we have mci brian in columbus ohio being killed fifteen-year-old blacker and so folks immediately breathed a sigh of relief from nearing guilty. Guilty guilty and then they turn their attention to mci the injustices surrounding the fact that she was killed by police in columbus. We've had other police killings since then so we should read or we should realize they're still so much work to do. I'm also not sure why the expectation is that one guilty verdict is wanna transform system if you think about how the derek chauvin trial was framed by the prosecution. They made it clear that this was about one bad apple. I don't agree with that. But they were appealing to the sentiments of some jurors who believe in the police and the sanctity of the institutional believe. they're there to protect and serve. And who would. Without that video of whitney and believe that chopin was capable of choking the life out of george floyd and so we have a lot of work to do a long way to go. But i feel that this guilty verdict is definitely address. The chemo levy armstrong. As always. thank you for your analysis. Harry thank you for being with us tonight. Area colbert is the editor. In chief of north news coming up a new movement to help a radical racial inequities in poverty is gaining traction in cities across america. It's called giving people cash. That's next the minnesota's exceptional state. We contribute a lot to the world. And we rank as i've told people time and time again at the very top in quality of life indicators. Life expectancy personal incomes educational attainment homeownership. But when you disagree that there's not just a little gap we go from first to fiftieth. If you're black we need to bring up all of those things because it didn't it didn't start in the inequities. When they ended up with the police encounter it starts when they're board. That was minnesota governor. Tim walls on the last word the day. Derek chauvin was convicted of murdering george. Floyd how can we unwind the inequities that as the governor said. Start at birth one way. Some cities across america working to do that is by ending deep poverty. They're ending it with money providing a universal basic income no-strings-attached money that goes directly into people's hands. Now that idea you be. I gained national attention. When andrew yang ran on it and the twenty twen democratic presidential election but decades before that dr martin luther king junior was sold on the idea dr king wrote in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven quote. I am now convinced that the simplest approach will prove to be the most effective. The solution to poverty is to abolish directly by a now widely discussed measure the guaranteed income. But it was once in what was once an out. There idea has started gaining momentum in the united states in part because america has started doing it during the pandemic when the economy was forced to shut down and lots of lower income people couldn't work. The government responded by giving them money. Cnbc said that the biden relief. Bill looks like a guaranteed income experiment. Noting that some families could receive up to fourteen thousand dollars in aid and that was property. Experts to question whether more permanent guaranteed income or universal. Basic income. Policies are in the country's future this week chicago. Lawmakers began considering a plan to offer guaranteed income to poor residents in los angeles mayor. Eric garcetti announcing a twenty four million dollar basic income guaranteed program in his city budget which would provide one thousand dollars a month to two thousand los angeles families for a year. There will be no obligation on how to spend that money mayor. Garcetti is a member of mayors for a basic guaranteed income which is a coalition of forty-one mayors advocating for guaranteed income at all levels of government was founded last year by our next guest. Michael tubs the former mayor of stockton california. The country's most racially diverse city in february of twenty nine hundred michael tubs helped launch pilot program called the stockton economic empowerment. Demonstration gave one hundred and twenty-five randomly selected people living in lower income neighborhoods. Five hundred dollars per month. According to a study by a team of independent researchers quote recipients of guaranteed income were healthier showing less depression and anxiety and enhanced wellbeing joining us. Now is the former mayor. Stockton california tubs. He's the founder of mayors for a guaranteed income. he's carling special advisor to california governor gavin. Newsom michael tub's good to see you. Thank you for being with us. I want you to answer the first question that doubters a naysayers have when you discuss universal basic income. Why would you give money to people who may not have a specific need for it. Well has need for money because money is a proxy for agency. Money's proxy for ownership over timing incandescent volatile so someone may not may today as covid nineteen has illustrate for us when the pandemic cap by the flood public health disastrous setup cash important tool by which people can stay healthy people can move to shelter etc. Absolutely say that we understand. We live in a world economy that that does subsidize the need for cash to pay for childcare for transportation for utilities. But also to deal with any vc -mergency Ovid that one out of every two americans not just people in poverty one every two americans cannot afford one five hundred dollar -mergency and that's why getting today come as a powerful tool to help with that. So let's talk about a study that that Some findings of your program the stockton economic empowerment demonstration. They measured recipients from february. Two thousand nine hundred feb twenty twenty right before the pandemic what they got what. They spent their five hundred dollars on consistently the largest spending category in each month was food followed by sales merchandise other leading categories each month where utilities and auto care or transportation less than one percent track of track purchases were for tobacco and alcohol. So so this idea that if you give people money they'll just wasted on stuff. Didn't actually pan out in in your experiment absolutely not in stream from the mountain tops that we can shrink regular people with money trust millionaires and billionaires tax cuts. Every time there's an economic conversation about they move forward as a country in bigoted. Denver goes to the point that we know that the vast majority of people are rational actors. We know that the issue isn't that people don't know how to manage money. The issues that people don't have money to manage. The issue is not with people the issues with an economic sense than a dozen allow for opportunity. Everyone were opportunities out. Widely shared when people are literally working themselves to death and still able to pay for necessities but it is philosophical issue. Right i mean we were able to. The federal reserve was able to do things to make sure companies could borrow money in a flash. The government is able to to cut taxes for corporations and yet the three times that we have asked for money taxpayer money to be given to people who are american taxpayers. In their moment of need we have twisted ourselves into pretzels to justify whether it's this many hundred dollars that many hundred dollars it is kind of remarkable. it's ridiculous it's actually rooted arguing racism. We know that. Oftentimes i classes the boxy for race. When people say that folks who don't have much as others were spend their money on alcohol or drugs or make them not work else even into racist trump's around people particularly black people. I'm not knowing how many or being lazy or buying jordan's in malt liquor in the data. The evidence illustrates asked not true in. That's why i'm so proud of the over. Forty mayors now who are standing insane. No in this moment. The most important investment we can make to build back better is investment into our people excited about the childhood tax credit needs to be permanent monthly recurring guaranteed income for families with children. We know that this pandemic illustrates not just people in poverty. That are struggling. It's people who are one paycheck away. Small business owners who've had business disrupt appropriate nineteen. It's a solution good for everyone at one. That has to be awesome. This country moving forward. That will only gonna figure this out if we do. Experiments like what you did in stockton so we appreciate that. We're able to look at that and study at and see. Those outcomes and advocate for michael tubs is the former mayor of stockton. California is the founder of mayors for a guaranteed income. Thank you for joining us tonight. Coming up michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson conducted her own study of republican voter suppression bills in various states. What she found is alarming. She'll join us next. Republicans are entering a new deplorable phase in their assault on voting rights. Gop's not only making it harder to vote. It's also removing election officials. Who stood up. Trump's efforts to overturn the last election. Professor professor richard haass. An expert on election law writes the message that these actions send to politicians. Is that if you want a future in state republican politics. You'd better be willing to manipulate election results or lie about election. Fraud and quote. Case in point republicans in arizona to this day are still recounting votes from the twenty twenty election. Even though court after court after court found no merit to their unsubstantiated fraud claims in michigan not one on it but two hundred and fifty audits found no fraud and reaffirm. The state's twenty. Twenty election was conducted with accuracy and integrity. Our next guest michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson has conducted her own study that found alarming similarities in the voting restrictions that republicans are pushing in state houses across the united states secretary benson compared the thirty nine republican bills in michigan to the republican bills in other states. Here's what she found when she compared those thirty nine bills to the bill that the governor of georgia signed into law in both states. Republicans want voters to prevent present proof of a state. Id with absentee applications. They both want to reduce. Dropbox is for ballots and restrict ballot processing and counting. Which would delay voting results and lead to misinformation and in both michigan and georgia republicans want to ban election officials from proactively sending voter applications for absentee ballots. What to have this conversation with the michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. I think she's with us. But i know we've been having a little bit of a technical issue getting her gonna ask my control room. Do we have a justin very good. All right we've got secretary bentsen secondary. Thank you for being with us there. You are in person. I'm glad we were able to connect with you. you what. What was the goal of this effort. I know that you like the numbers. You like the statistics. You like the detail in the job of being secretary states. I think you're generally inclined toward the sort of thing. But what were you trying to figure out when you undertook the study. Well certainly stra understand what's going on. 'cause i mean if you took a list of everything that worked in twenty twenty to ensure people on both sides of the aisle could vote in record numbers safely and securely and then you compare that list to all of the policies that were being proposed in michigan. They were two. They were the same in other words. Every policy that was proposed undoing the very policies that worked so well in michigan in two thousand and twenty. And then if you start looking to other states like georgia like arizona. Like texas like iowa like wyoming. The list goes on you. Start seeing the very same language even in the legislation all of which again is directly connected to in responding to the policies that worked so well in twenty. Twenty people voted absentee in record numbers. Now it's harder to get naps and t ballot in all these states. People are returning ballots throughout. Fox's now they're trying to do away with dropbox in all of these states so you see these patterns and it's deeply troubling because really this is just an escalation of the battle that we fought to protect moxie and twenty twenty that seems to be a moving towards future elections to make it even more difficult to not. Just vote but certify the results but the question is whether what influences is having on voters. Poll that was released yesterday showed that republican support many people republican people supporting to key voting provision has plummeted since twenty eighteen. I this is just a little over two years supporting two thousand eighteen by republicans for no excuse. Absentee early voting was fifty seven percent. It's now thirty eight percent down. Nineteen points support for automatic voter registration. Which is what they do up in. Canada where i come from forty nine percent in two thousand eighteen thirty eight percent in two thousand twenty down. That's what's motivating this shift secretary once again at a manifestation of the misinformation that has been flowing through various portals on social media in. It's really just unfortunate. Because both those policies you lay out automatic voter registration. Not only makes it easier for people to become registered. It makes it easier for us to keep our voter rolls. Accurate insecure an end on enabling people to have choices on how to vote to vote absentee. That's something that people have embraced in record numbers because it's an auction that enables particularly senior citizens and others to vote from home which was particularly important even in the midst of a pandemic so these policies work They protect democracy. They make it robust. The only recent people would lose faith in them is a response to the the lies. They've been told by lawmakers furthering political bowls and ultimately trying to decrease their participation. You talked about the things that worked and the laws that are now looking to overturn those things that worked or do we not have a shared view of what works in an election We used to have a shared view. That everybody who's entitled to vote should vote and we should make it easier to do that and there were times when you didn't have to wait in long lines and you didn't have to do certain things but now we see these long lines over the all over the place and people don't have flexibility in their working lives so absentee no excuse absentee voting not having to come up with creative excuses for why you may have to be traveling or dealing with a sick relative not having to not having to stand in line for hours and hours why are we not. I mean what are we. What are we justifying voting against those things. It's not only that we there seems to be a you know a deep division among the views of of access to the vote or not and whether you you value and of course the national review a few weeks ago put out a an op. Ed even suggesting that perhaps there's a school of thought out there that doesn't want everyone to vote. Which is kind of saying the quiet part out loud and You know so. We can't even agree on it. Not just that. But even the same set of facts and data to work from now i know in history teaches us that the best policies the policies policies that further justice that further healthy society. Early every every issue that you've talked about on the show tonight. All of it can be solved by having all voices at the table equally empowered participating in government and self government and that's what democracy is about In so we have to look to our history to recognize especially at a time like this where there does seem to be these divergent views. History teaches us that when everyone has a seat at the table in voice in the policies that govern our society. The policies are better for everyone. And so we have to get back to recognizing that recognizing the value of collaboration of compromise of deliberation and working from the same sets of facts and data comes up to solutions that benefit all of us. And if we can get back to that. I think we can get back to evaluate democracy. But what's most troubling to me about. All these policies not just they align in really trying to undo access to the vote but they're also trying to undermine the ability of us as election to certify the results and ensure that every valid vote is counted which can really start to cause problems in future elections in twenty twenty twenty twenty four. Thank you so much secretary for staying on top of this and for fighting for this battle to just do the right thing. It's not partisan it's just what democracy is supposed to be michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. We always appreciate your time coming up on this day last year. Donald trump told the country that maybe they should inject bleach to beat kovin. That's crazy it's crazy to think that that actually have the actual president of the united states that at the white house press briefing room where today jen psaki conduct. Do they totally normal question and answer session anyway. The republican party still thinks that guy president. We're gonna talk about that after this. Donald trump is irrelevant. He gives interviews that. Don't make headlines. He sends out statements that become the butt of jokes. sure he's got the era of congressional republicans but no member of the gop has the influence or the audience to be trump's messenger. Which makes him irrelevant. But this segment isn't meant to mock him. It's meant to mourn what actually could have been because donald trump didn't have to be irrelevant. Seventy four million americans voted for him in two thousand twenty like him or not. His voice matters to some people he could've spoke out in real honest ways on important issues without fear of polls and push back that guided so much of his value system in the white house. It is ironic that on the one year anniversary of trump wondering whether people could inject bleach into themselves to kill the corona virus. He told the new york post quote. I'm all in favor of the vaccine strongly. Strongly recommend it. Because it's a real life saver quote. Now he says this where was he. Months ago when the vaccine i came out while he was still president and his words could have mattered. It was even clear by his refusal to help distribute the vaccines. He wanted credit for pushing companies to develop vaccines but he didn't seem to care if they ever got into people's arms and new york and dc centric republicans. The main new york post audience. Really the people who need to hear this message. Could this be a stunt to make himself look better or any positive side effect that is just that of side effect trump could have pushed americans to get vaccinated sooner. Could've told americans that vaccines are safe. But he's so preoccupied with attacking. Lebron james and mitch mcconnell that he missed his moment to save lives now should know. Trump's message is a good one the vaccine is a lifesaver and maybe skeptics will take his advice. Which would be great for all of us. But it's likely too little too late because he's irrelevant and let's not just limit. The vaccine. trump could be relevant if he spoke to other issues affecting his base for structure. Biden's two point. Two trillion dollar infrastructure plan would benefit large swaths of trump's base. It would provide jobs to rural and suburban communities. It would repair critical infrastructure. It would expand broadband access and trump has good reason to support the biden plan because he actually pitched a two trillion dollar infrastructure plan just last year but that's just not trump. of course he's not advocating for anything that might give joe biden a win even if it helps his base because it doesn't help him so he condemns the plan and that's been trump's problem since he came down that infamous escalator at trump tower to declare his candidacy for president. Trump doesn't want to help others if it doesn't help him he doesn't push vaccines because many in his base are against them. He doesn't push it infrastructure plan because it's a democratic plant and he's still out going on fox to claim that he won the election and putin who's currently killing alexei navalny in prison is an okay guy so perhaps he should be irrelevant but has claimed political power is the paralysis that elected republicans have in breaking away from him against what the trump base is against. Even if it's not rooted in fact you can't be for policies that a democrat would support. You have to be cool with anti-democratic impulses like voter suppression. That's where the republican party is. Right now cova conspiracies. Defending the capital riot has overblown or committed by antifa. Blm thinking republican election officials in states that correctly. Certified the vote for joe. Biden are traders and frantically pushing legislation to make sure that never happens again but when this is what the party is about. How else could they possibly win joining us. Now jennifer rubin and opinion writer for the washington post in an msnbc contributor and kurt anderson journalist and author of evil genius the unmaking of america. A recent history jennifer rubin a conservative for a long time. This is just weird. This is weird nonsense. That's going on right now. There's an opportunity to break away. There's a real space right now. For debate about what healthcare looks like what wages should look like what infrastructure should look like but republicans are generally speaking with a few exceptions disengaged from that entire dialogue. Your description of trump reminds me of the old joke that if my grandmother had three wheels she'd be a tricycle meaning that if things aren't were were upside down and different then we might have a rational person a rational second party but i think you hit the nail on the head not about governing. I think we have to get through the notion that they want to happen even for their own people this is about. I think on people angry keeping people Resentful keeping people With the view that whites are somehow endangered on. How could you possibly turn the chauvin conviction into a bad news story. But they do that on fox news on so they have a completely different view of what politics is about and it's about self promotion it's about engaging keeping people angry paranoid So you're right. You know what listen. Tom trump saying. I'm the hero. I got all these vaccines throw. I'm here take it. Take the trump bac scenes. You'd think that that would be way to lies. But that's not what he is going to do and You know. I think waiting free to grow into the presidency. After is left up the wrong tree here this we have. We have a better chance of me growing hair on my head. Kurt andersen what happens then because it is becoming very very difficult for for republicans at this point who think that they might wanna be figuring out who their next presidential candidate is or what run against policies that. Maybe they disagree with that. The democrats are putting forward but they can't break away they can't break up. What trump well. They can't imagine. What the josh hawley. And ted cruz are are and the rest of them. Who planned to run for president in two thousand twenty four are thinking i mean they are on the one hand obliged because of their trumpets base to to praise the dear leader and be close to him even though he's no longer president and yet they all are petrified of having run against him. Because can you imagine any of them waging a tough campaign against donald trump. How does that work exactly so no. He is paralyzed the party. And of course on what you were saying before in terms of yes he could embrace the vaccine and say look and he can even do it in a trump way. that's the thing his his his his. So frankly dumb that he doesn't even say look. Joe biden is getting credit for this thing i invented and i did similarly. You can say about infrastructure yeah Joe biden two trillion dollars in infrastructure. That's what i to do. I was mr infrastructure yet. He doesn't even do that. It's curious and and and i think he his his whole pleasure is as you say wielding the bit the strange peculiar power. He's still has over these frightened washington republican politicians. Yeah he's he's giving new life to the concept of grievance. Thanks to both of you for being here tonight. Jennifer rubin and kurt andersen always a pleasure to talk to you. Both i coming up. A new poll shows. Just how much. Joe biden has won over americans who didn't vote for him that's coming up. Next as president biden approaches his one hundredth day in office his approval ratings consistently show that he's winning over americans who did not vote for him. Joe biden one fifty one percent of the vote in november. The latest gallup poll just taken. This month has biden's approval rating at fifty. Seven percent biden has enjoyed overwhelming support. Seventy two percent according to pew research for his handling of the coronavirus vaccine rollout the one point nine trillion dollar american rescue plan is supported by sixty seven percent of americans according to pew and a majority of americans support biden's jobs and infrastructure proposals. So joe biden's agenda is popular with both democrats and republican voters if not republican lawmakers. Joining us now is democratic congresswoman. Cherise david's of kansas. She's the vice chair of the new democrat coalition. She was among a group of lawmakers. Who met this week with white house. Senior staff to discuss policy priorities for the american jobs. Plan congressman david. Thank you for being with us tonight. it'd be here. Let's talk about first of all this concept of governing for people who didn't necessarily vote for you. You know this well coming for being a democrat from from the state of kansas these days. What is it that that is working in your opinion after a conversation that you had at the white house this week With the bro. You met with with the senior white house officials this week. What is that's working for you. Look i think that right now. What we're seeing is an administration with a president. Who has done what he said he was going to do. He's been laser focused on making sure that we're getting vaccines into people's arms for getting money into people's pockets getting folks back to work and that was because of the american rescue plan and i think that when people look at the job that this administration is doing that Both of us in the house and the senate who are working hard to help get relief to people who need it the most. That's the kind of stuff that people are gonna wanna see regardless of party there in one of the issues that joe biden has pointed out in some of his executive actions is that he'd really like a lot of these things done legislatively and that's one of the topics. I understand that you discussed. What the white house. How to get some of the priorities of fellow. Democrats who are like minded stuff done through congress. Yeah you know when we went to the white house this week as the new democrat coalition. One of the things we highlighted was the fact that we're one of the largest caucuses in In the united states congress than when you're talking about getting legislation across the finish line you've got to be working with people who are willing to To to talk to anybody. Who's pushing for good policy. Look i've said the entire time that i've been in office. I'm willing to work with anybody if if we're talking about getting policy done it's going to be good for the third district in kansas good for the state of kansas good for our country and the new coalition The transportation and infrastructure committee. We're also kissed on that. And so as the biden administration. Joe biden has actually been in navajo nation This week talking navajo women about their needs. A the associated press writes. The trip was biden third to the vast reservation in her inaugural visit as first lady. She's vowed to work with the navajo nation and all tribal nations in a recognition of their inherent sovereignty and political relationship with the united states This of course is a topic that has become much bigger under this administration and with your former colleague. Deb haaland now as a cabinet secretary. What how does this. How does this look like to you. What does success for for tribal communities in an indians in america. Look like i mean certainly. We have seen a huge leap forward with The confirmation and appointment of of now secretary deb holland to the department of interior. I think it's important to note that i win. The federal government used to interact with tribal governments. It was through the department of war. And now what we're seeing with the development of interiors Having a person who not only understands it from the legal perspective but also from a lived experience having congresswoman holland secretary holland. there is a I'm definitely missing her out of the house. Having heard there is it's historic and for so many different reasons but Certainly having a biden administration whether we're talking about president biden or the first lady paying attention learning the issues showing up listening and really trying to be as engaged as possible with tribal communities is is gonna go a really long way to helping address to helping address some of the disparities that we've seen over centuries really want to talk to you about Voting rights stuff. Because we've been talking about that. A lot tonight Your governor in kansas has vetoed number of gop or a couple of gop election bills saying that. They are designed to disenfranchise. Voters the quote from hers at. This is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. It is designed to disenfranchise cans and make it more difficult for them to participate in the democratic process. Not to stop voter fraud What's what's your view of how this goes. You're you're the only congressional democrat in the state. Yeah now look. Kansas has been dealing with the voter suppression issues for awhile. Folks might remember that we we had crisco baucus our secretary of state. And so we've been a push back against trying to push back against voter suppression for awhile. I'm very very glad that the folks then in my home state in kansas were able to See that governor. Kelley was going to be the person who would help get us on the right track in our state And she demonstrates that time and time again a vetoing these awful voter suppression bills is Is just one more example. That crisco back is the founding father of non existent voter fraud fierce So yes that you guys come by it. Honestly and kansas congressman. Good to see you. Thank you congressman series. David is the vice chair of the new democratic coalition. she's a member of the house transportation infrastructure committee and is a democratic representative from kansas. And that is tonight's last word. 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