35 Burst results for "The Electoral College"

David Catron: Will the Democrats Accept the Midterm Results?

Mark Levin

01:52 min | 1 d ago

David Catron: Will the Democrats Accept the Midterm Results?

"Now we were talking about elections And I mentioned some time ago a piece by David catron over there at the American spectator was a great piece with a Democrats except the midterm results And they're clearly laying the foundation for not accepting the results So they accuse you me and Trump have not accepting election results and yet that's what they're all about Anytime a Republican wins its due to some kind of corruption or races or something And you know you would think the bushes would understand this because the Democrats and the media considered him an president for the longest time as a result of the 2000 Electoral College win he didn't win the popular vote but the litigation that took place in Florida He was calling a legitimate president by most of the Democrats in most of the media but that was then and now bush loves being loved But he does point out does catron That the Democrats are likely to get whacked There is more than the usual bombast he says we're getting from these politicians And he also points out the criminalizing political opponents The New York Times with this January reports with this January 6th so called insurrection committee But he believes the increase steadily metastasized into a mccarthyite inquisition Based on the proposition that former president Trump in a long list of so called far right figures were involved in a criminal conspiracy To undermine the results of the 2020 election And that's where the Department of Justice is headed

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Her Ridiculous Court Case

The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast

01:57 min | Last week

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Her Ridiculous Court Case

"I'm back with Marjorie Taylor Greene and we were talking about Ukraine and of course we expect zelensky to be Ukraine first. Of course, that's his country, but weirdly we are surprised when people in America are America first. Let's pivot a little bit to the court case that you found yourself. And I mean, absolutely bizarre situation in which it seems like there was an attempt to prevent you running for reelection. I mean, you got was it activist groups? Who is behind this effort to try to block you from running again? For asking about that, this group is called free speech for the people, but they don't believe in free speech because they were trying to rip my name off the ballot silence the speech of voters in my district and not allow them to be able to reelect me and send me back to Congress. This is a group that operates on dark money. They receive their donations from other 5 O ones and foundations. So you can't see who is really donating to them. And they have a few donations that are public, but most for the most part, you only see groups and foundations that donate to them. These people are a group of attorneys from New York and Massachusetts. They have decided to try to attack our elections, especially our elections in Georgia by filing these candidacy qualification challenges, claiming that by the Fourteenth Amendment Fourteenth Amendment, section three that I supposedly waged an insurrection against the United States, which I absolutely did not. I objected to vote against Joe Biden's fraudulent Electoral College votes, dinesh, and I would probably do it again today, and I would proudly do it again tomorrow. And I'm so thankful for your movie 2000 mules because that exposes why I voted to object.

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Tom Homan: Joe Biden Is the First President to 'Unsecure the Border'

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

01:52 min | Last month

Tom Homan: Joe Biden Is the First President to 'Unsecure the Border'

"Did we go from securing the border record drop in illegal immigrants, building walls, making sure that COVID isn't exploited, dropping the drug smuggling? Why is this or literally reversed day one? What's the real reason? Well, first of all, I'm not out of fight. I've written more off of it. Oh, I know. I've written more affidavits suing the Biden administration than I did as an agent. We're far enough. Would you stay the taxes? Before he came into this before we turn the mics and he said, you know what? I'm working harder than I did when I was director of ice. Good. 'cause we need you and then we need you in the second Trump administration. So you are fighting the good fight. It comes back, I come back, but look, what do I think? Look, I've said this many times. Again, it worked for 6 presidents. Every president, including Obama and Clinton came into office and has some idea. Okay, we need to secure the border. Some took up more seriously now there's some went further than others, but they all wanted to secure border and you heard him say it during the campaign. You hear him say it from The White House. Joe Biden is the first president that came into office in unsecured debater. Unsecured secure board ever had. There's no downside in secure borders, no downside unless women being insulted, less children dying, less billions cartels make, less overdose deaths in this country, less criminal aliens entering this country. So what's the reason? The only reason I can think of is for perpetual power. There's also Joe Biden first two weeks in office. He overturned the Trump census rule. So now all these millions coming in will be counted in the next census and sanctuary cities. What does that mean? More seats than house for the damage, which the Easter Electoral College was these perpetuated. So it's not just it's not just more seats based upon the senses if you Amnesty ten, 20 million illegals, the expectation is they believe I think it's racist, but they think that they'll all be automatically Democrat voters.

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Mark Meckler Explains Why Leaders Should Support Convention of States

Mark Levin

01:36 min | 3 months ago

Mark Meckler Explains Why Leaders Should Support Convention of States

"So Mark whatever the reasons are they're misplaced and the Republican leadership always talks about how the Democrats don't do this in the Democrats Why don't they let their people vote And let their people vote and why don't these people understand that what's at stake is our constitutional system that they represent the ability to fix this This is the only way to fix it Is it not It is the only way market I'll tell you one of the things that's so astounding to me And this is going on in South Dakota right now I just had a conversation with the senators kind of on the fence I always ask at the end this question like okay if it's not this then what is it We all agree that the system is crashing the Marxist Syrian controller turned into trying to pack the courts They want to get rid of the Electoral College They want to add states So if it's not this what is it And I never get an answer Because it's usually just generally you know I don't know but I'm scared of this And that's my frustration and one of the things that I ask these leaders to do and usually it's a problem in leadership It's not the rank and files Usually in the leadership of what I ask them is to lead There's a reason we have the country we have is because at some point leaders stood up and said we're going to do this thing And other people said it's too risky It's scary and the leader said we're going to do this thing We're going to stand and we're going to fight and that's what we need right now in South Dakota We've got citizen leaders are doing that Great state leadership they're surely lovers She's over 80 years old and just absolutely cranking it Harvey Fitzgerald and his wife but we need leadership in the legislature in South

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Jan. 6 committee subpoenas fake Trump electors in 7 states

AP News Radio

00:43 sec | 3 months ago

Jan. 6 committee subpoenas fake Trump electors in 7 states

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Victor Davis Hanson Describes the Democrats’ Desperate Jan. 6 Spin

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

02:37 min | 4 months ago

Victor Davis Hanson Describes the Democrats’ Desperate Jan. 6 Spin

"With professor Hansen. You've talked about what should happen. We should have a bipartisan open investigation. The thousands of hours of video tape from the CCTV system should be released. That will not happen. We know the January 6th committee as constituted is illegal. There are 7 Democrats to Republicans who are not nominated by the RNC. So given that reality professor, what are your expectations? Will this committee that has subpoenaed my phone records as well despite the fact that I didn't even speak on January 6th? Will this become an even more radicalized political tool and if so, given that this is a midterm year from the strategic perspective, is there not a significant danger of this becoming an own goal of this backfiring for the Democrats? I think it is what the subtext is, is there going to magnify and extend this date January 6th all the way for an entire year? Along with the demonization of the now out of office Trump and why are they doing that? You know better than I do and so does your audience that none of the issues that they are running on or can run on have majority support. A left wing poll today had Joe Biden's approval ratings at 35%. Everybody knows that they have nothing other than conspiracy conspiracy just as if they tried race race race, Ku Ku Ku take over takeover democracy is going to die die, but if we just keep sober and look at what's gone on the last 11 months, who are the people who are trying to end the filibuster and the Electoral College, dismantle the 9 person Supreme Court, get rid of the states, premising and establishing, according to the constitution, balloting laws and national elections. Who's trying to get rid of a 60 year old tradition of a 50 state union. These are revolutionaries, but it's not coming from a bunch of clownish people that assemble in stormed into the capitol. And most people deplored that because I don't like anybody violating federal property. I think it's a crime, and it should be punished, but let's go after the 14,000 people who were arrested who committed a lot of crimes. Where are the people who established an autonomous zone in Seattle and just created a safe space to commit a series of felonies? Where are they now? Are they in jail? Are they under indictment? Are they in prison? Who killed the 30 people in that? I haven't seen any

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Mollie Hemingway: Democrats' Purpose Is to Intimidate People, Control How They Vote

Mark Levin

02:02 min | 4 months ago

Mollie Hemingway: Democrats' Purpose Is to Intimidate People, Control How They Vote

"They claim to care about democracy When they lose elections they attack the Electoral College They attack the Supreme Court in 2000 There is endless amounts of audio and video showing them challenging the election of Republican presidents from the floor of the house And bringing litigation Al Gore did that for weeks and weeks and weeks Also the Russia collusion as you point out and in 2020 isn't the effort here really to intimidate people so they can't even discuss 2020 2020 was apparently the only fraud free election we've ever had in American history with the least amount of rules and standards in place Isn't that amazing So that's the thing We all know that the 2020 election was unlike any election we've ever experienced that hundreds of laws and processes were changed throughout the country in the months leading up to the election to flood the zone with tens of millions of mail in ballots which we all agreed up until 2020 where the primary means by which fraud can occur And nobody talks about the actual weirdness of that election with the exception of there was that one Time Magazine article that came out that said and I quote there was a quote conspiracy by a well funded cabal of powerful people who worked to change rules and laws fear media coverage control the flow of information to create again a revolution in how people vote You know that if this was an election where people on the right had done this and that someone on the right had won this would be nonstop news coverage concern about rigging of elections and integrity of elections And yet they don't even talk about it at all when there are hundreds of things that they should be talking about There is a very legitimate reason why people are concerned about the integrity of our elections and the media and other Democrats don't want to talk about it because they want to keep the rigging going

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Garland Urges Congress to Protect Voting Rights

The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

01:53 min | 4 months ago

Garland Urges Congress to Protect Voting Rights

"Merrick Garland gave a speech yesterday and let's see, let's play cut number two. The Department of Justice will continue to do all it can to protect voting rights with the enforcement powers we have. It is essential that Congress act to give the department the powers we need to ensure that every eligible voter can cast a vote that counts. Right there, that's the AG being political. Every eligible voter can vote a cast about the counts. It's just nonsense. I can't believe the attorney general in the United States use the anniversary of one 6 to go out there and push it partisan agenda. But it was a partisan speech. The bottom line of this beach, please stop yelling at me. We're finding everything we can. There's just no there there. There's no big conspiracy. And he made some vague reference. We'll follow the investigation wherever it leads however Hyatt goes. Yeah, right. It's not going anywhere. Trump was not organizing an insurrection. People say, didn't you see what Peter Navarro said? Peter Navarro said they had a war room at the Willard trying to persuade Mike Pence not to count. That's not an insurrection. It's an interpretation of the Electoral College act, and it was a wrong interpretation. It screwball. And I believe eastman's second memo said that my friend John eastman wrote two memos, one of which has been leaked by the January 6th committee, which isn't really a committee. It's a rough committee. The saddest part about this is that when Nancy Pelosi hijacked due process of the minority and she could have gotten away with a pointing Liz Cheney, could Liz Cheney has the respect of a lot of Americans. But when she wouldn't let Kevin McCarthy name Jim banks the chair put Jim Jordan on she destroyed the credibility of the committee and nobody cares what the committee does, except those people who have already hung Donald Trump in their mind for treason. So it's just a nonsense

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Jenna Ellis: We Are in a Constitutional Crisis

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

01:42 min | 4 months ago

Jenna Ellis: We Are in a Constitutional Crisis

"Enough states ex post facto, I just made that up. D certified enough votes that Biden drops beneath the two 70 last year. What would happen now? Because I know back then in January, there's this fruity clause this scenario B that the state delegations by party would choose the next president if the Electoral College had failed to come to a two 70. And back then, the GOP had the majority of state party representations by state. So we could have chosen president Trump for a second term. Or they could have chosen Biden. I mean, because that's a very total so what happens if, you know, two months from now, Pennsylvania and Arizona or Michigan or whoever adds up enough, he drops to 70. Where does it leave us as a nation? In a constitutional crisis, which by the way, we are in one already. And we are in one not just because of the election, but also but because the Democrats are trying to harness every possible power that is not in the constitution and they think that their power is unlimited. And that's actually going to be the question this Friday in front of the Supreme Court with the osha mandate. Because having unlimited authority and applying osha's federal power in this much of an overreach would set horrible precedent. And we're already

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Brian Mudd: Joe Biden's Fallen Approval Rating Is a Generational Opportunity

Mark Levin

01:41 min | 5 months ago

Brian Mudd: Joe Biden's Fallen Approval Rating Is a Generational Opportunity

"To give you some context Electoral College context given that Biden is only above water in 5 states of Washington D.C. a generic ballot Republican would be favored to be Joe Biden if an election were held today 449 to 89 And what we're seeing with Joe Biden's crashing approval rating is far removed from your typical blue state red state types of discussions Many comparisons many comparisons are made and I've continued to advance the between Biden and Carter But what we are seeing is not just the worst approval performance relative to where one started for a first term president But in the context of the Electoral College think about this And Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan 489 to 49 in 1980 And I know that you take a look at how politics has played out in the decades since And I think for many on the right you're going oh my gosh it's we can never get back to that place Well I mean after Nixon and when Jimmy Carter became president how many Republicans thought that Ronald Reagan would beat an incumbent president Jimmy Carter four 89 to 49 The point is things can change that quickly When there are generational opportunities presented which is what we're seeing right

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In milestone deal, Proud Boy pleads guilty in Capitol riot

AP News Radio

00:44 sec | 5 months ago

In milestone deal, Proud Boy pleads guilty in Capitol riot

"Hi hi Mike Mike Rossi Rossi a a reporting reporting in in a a milestone milestone deal deal a a proud proud boy boy pleads pleads guilty guilty in in the the capital capital riot riot a a member member of of the the far far right right proud proud boys boys has has pleaded pleaded guilty guilty to to storming storming the the US US capitol capitol with with fellow fellow members members during during the the January January sixth sixth insurrection insurrection Matthew Matthew green green becomes becomes the the first first probably probably as as member member to to publicly publicly plead plead guilty guilty to to conspiring conspiring with with other other members members to to stop stop Congress Congress from from certifying certifying the the electoral electoral college college vote vote as as part part of of his his plea plea agreement agreement read read will will also also cooperate cooperate with with authorities authorities green green traveled traveled from from Syracuse Syracuse New New York York to to Washington Washington DC DC with with other other proud proud boys boys on on January January fifth fifth a a defense defense attorney attorney says says green green did did not not have have a a leadership leadership role role in in the the group group green green is is expected expected to to face face a a maximum maximum of of just just over over four four years years in in prison prison at at sentencing sentencing which which is is set set for for March March Mike Mike rice rice CEO CEO Washington Washington

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At GOP Gubernatorial Debate, All 5 Candidates Suggest Biden Didn't Win

The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

02:18 min | 5 months ago

At GOP Gubernatorial Debate, All 5 Candidates Suggest Biden Didn't Win

"Here's the question that's caused many stories to be written cut number 16. I'll be giving you doctor Jensen before we look forward to it back to the election of 2020. And you're paying it in President Biden win at the constitutional majority of the Electoral College. If yes, I would think of it as your conclusion. And if you know what you see in which states people and why. Okay, now we're not going to play the whole thing. I just wanted you to hear the question because I repeated it a number of times. I think four out of the 6 candidates and the question is exactly, I want to make sure I say it the right way. Did President Biden win a constitutional majority in the Electoral College? If yes, how definitive is your conclusion if no, please explain which states you think are in dispute and why? All 6 of them sidestepped it, though senator gazelka answered, we use the Electoral College. One and senator Benson said on the only time I followed up on a question because she didn't answer the question the first time around was he was certified. I think that is an unusual answer for all 5 of them to give, perhaps it wasn't the first question the first question was why are you the most electable candidate? And mine was the second question, but we had a rule no follow-ups, and we add a rule I did too, and then John and Kyle didn't want each and then I did too. And then they did what that sort of thing. So I kept to it, but it is drive written a column about it, which will come out tomorrow about how I would answer it, but I'm not running for any office. It's not really up to me to answer it. I think Joe Biden won the election. I think rather clearly that there is one state much less the three or four that must be in doubt anywhere. And there was never any state in doubt anywhere in a traditionally cognizable way. So President Biden is President Biden. But I'm very alarmed by the improvisations that were made in voting rules, and I am very supportive of making it easy to vote and hard to cheat in 2022. That's the answer. Takes less than 75 seconds. That's my answer. It's not the answer. That wasn't their answer, and launched a thousand

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AP: Voter fraud cases rare in six states disputed by Trump

AP News Radio

00:59 min | 5 months ago

AP: Voter fraud cases rare in six states disputed by Trump

"An an AP AP review review of of the the twenty twenty twenty twenty election election finds finds that that voter voter fraud fraud was was exceedingly exceedingly rare rare the the Associated Associated Press Press reviewed reviewed six six battleground battleground states states disputed disputed by by former former president president Donald Donald Trump Trump and and found found fewer fewer than than four four hundred hundred and and seventy seventy five five cases cases of of potential potential voter voter fraud fraud Joe Joe Biden Biden ended ended up up winning winning the the seventy seventy nine nine electoral electoral college college votes votes from from Arizona Arizona Georgia Georgia Michigan Michigan Nevada Nevada Pennsylvania Pennsylvania and and Wisconsin Wisconsin by by just just over over three three hundred hundred and and eleven eleven thousand thousand ballots ballots combined combined the the AP AP found found no no evidence evidence of of an an elaborate elaborate scheme scheme to to steal steal the the twenty twenty twenty twenty election election individuals individuals whose whose ballots ballots were were disputed disputed had had no no apparent apparent connection connection in in Wisconsin Wisconsin for for example example there there were were thirty thirty one one potential potential cases cases reported reported by by officials officials Milwaukee Milwaukee county county clerk clerk George George Christiansen Christiansen described described voter voter fraud fraud is is virtually virtually nonexistent nonexistent unfortunately unfortunately you you know know this this type type of of what what people people call call the the big big lie lie was was perpetuated perpetuated by by Donald Donald Trump Trump Donald Donald holes holes is is one one of of only only five five people people in in Wisconsin Wisconsin who who was was actually actually charged charged he's he's a a trump trump supporter supporter who who had had a a drunken drunken driving driving conviction conviction he he told told the the AP AP he he thought thought the the laws laws in in the the state state had had changed changed to to allow allow felons felons to to vote vote Jennifer Jennifer king king Washington Washington

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Glenn Youngkin and Ron DeSantis Are Proof That Local Elections Matter

Mark Levin

01:59 min | 6 months ago

Glenn Youngkin and Ron DeSantis Are Proof That Local Elections Matter

"Let me ask you something Look at the Commonwealth of Virginia We're going into that if you really want your main focus is who's going to be the next president of the United States That's all you care about As Trump going to run if he runs he's got to be Biden His Biden gonna want Is it gonna be Kamala Are they gonna get rid of her and put in Pete Buttigieg All these things If you're main focus is who's gonna be the president of the United States Let me ask you something Do you think Glenn youngkin And the Republicans sweep that we just saw in the Commonwealth of Virginia three weeks ago Do you think that improves the chances for a Republican to win the Electoral College votes in Virginia Versus should Terry mcauliffe had one Do you think maybe Moving this state the state of Virginia into the red column with regard to its governorship and its statewide leadership at lieutenant governor and attorney general do you think that that may be moves Virginia a little closer to being in play and being a purple state Do you think that governor Ron DeSantis winning a very close election Three years ago In Florida do you think that helped Move Florida more solidly into the red column Do you think that his policies and the way he's governing in Florida moves it even further into the red column where maybe when we get to 24 Florida might not even be the toss up state that it has been Maybe whoever the Republican nominee is won't even have to focus as much energy and time and money as they have in years past in Florida Because desantis and the Republican Party has done such a good job in that state that it's more solid or Republican state than it would have been Do you see what I'm saying Do you see how these local elections actually help put together that puzzle that gives you your Electoral College map

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Breaking Down the Process of Election Decertification With Jenna Ellis

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

01:59 min | 7 months ago

Breaking Down the Process of Election Decertification With Jenna Ellis

"Let's talk about the other. Big news wendy roaches arizona. Senator senator with i think how many other ninety other politicians demanded these certification and talk to us about this idea of decertification vice. Reinstatement we said. Reinstatement not a goer. What is the significance of this phrase in. How realistic is it. Well it's realistic. As long as republicans have the political backbone in the political will to actually do something about it so well. Reinstatement was a political theory. That was kind of in my view. Outside the margins of the us constitution decertification is important because it is a legislative recognition through the actual constitutionally appointed entity to recognize and safe for the record. The certifications that happened in the swing states including arizona. Were false. they were based on information and facts. That were that we have said. Throughout since november third is not the accurate reflection of what the voters actually indicated. Or what happens then say arizona decides okay. This is enough abnormalities. Tens of thousands of votes that have potentially fraudulent if they decertify. Does that not then require if there's a requisite number of these certifications for a re meeting of the electoral college well. So that's one thing that can in in my opinion should happen. If you get at least three states to decertify. And basically joe biden falls below the two hundred seventy threshold. Then we are in the constitutional crisis of congress having to say. Hey listen we now are in the position that the the installed president didn't actually reach the threshold. So what should happen is it should go then to the. Us house of representatives like it would have pre-january sex. They vote by state delegation. And they have the in article one article two rather section one point six congress can in this instance vote by help house delegation and call for a new

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What Is There for Republicans to Compromise With the Democrats?

Mark Levin

01:50 min | 8 months ago

What Is There for Republicans to Compromise With the Democrats?

"I'm wondering why you think the Republicans aren't willing to compromise with Biden in any way shape or form Why should they Why should they What should they compromise on Critical race theory Open borders Massive tax increases There are a lot of things pay attention I'm educating you Redistribution of wealth violating separation of powers packing the Supreme Court nullifying the Electoral College if they can and nationalizing our voting system Tell me what should the Republicans compromise when the Republican Party was founded as an antislavery party They never compromised on slavery They're not going to compromise I hope on tyranny I don't believe in Marxism sir I don't believe in undermining the constitution What's the compromise about What's the compromise for What do you hang out mister Medusa Did he Okay I wouldn't compromise the goal now as to defeat them Compromise this is a party that won't even negotiate This is a party that's trying to break the rules in order to impose their will This is a party that's trying to destroy all opposition whatsoever that supports censorship and in working with the big tech What is there to compromise on if you believe in liberty and individualism in the constitution and unalienable rights If you believe in capitalism if you believe in sovereignty in a secure border if you believe in a sound dollar if you believe in energy independence if you believe in a military second to none that's not abused but use properly If you support law enforcement and Law & Order what's the compromise with Ladies and gentlemen our position isn't a position to

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Conservative Historian Victor Davis Hanson on How to Pull America Out of Its Current Death Spiral

The Eric Metaxas Show

01:42 min | 8 months ago

Conservative Historian Victor Davis Hanson on How to Pull America Out of Its Current Death Spiral

"I'm always mortified. When someone i trust like you Sees what i see. Because i prefer to be suffering from from emotionalism or something you know and you write about it in this book that we're facing now is simply unprecedented. What do you say in the book about. What do you think what you think is possible in terms of of dealing with it. That's always gotta be my first question. Do you think it's possible for us to pull out of this death. Spiral i identify sick symptoms of three from the organic natural historical forces that migrations into a country without borders and the disruption of a private space the destruction of the middle class tribalism which destroys civilization. And then the elite postmodern forces that are destroying citizenship. And that's kind of a euphemism for the country as you as you suggest. And that's this administrative state. These two million people. It can be anybody from general milley to james comey and you know the score. And then people who are trying to change the constitution the customs whether it's the full buster or the electoral college fifty state union and then finally this globalization that our first allegiance to go to the un who were going to you know on the invitation from secretary. Blinken going to see whether we're racist or not so. All of those things can be reversed is what i'm trying to say

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Julie Kelly Describes How Trump Supporters Are Being Turned Into Convicted Felons

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

02:17 min | 8 months ago

Julie Kelly Describes How Trump Supporters Are Being Turned Into Convicted Felons

"Kelley welcome to america. First one on one. Thank you for having me. One an intro. So i know the invoice in the mail. So what did you talk about. Yes there was a topic of your panel. Just a little snippet so the subject that i've been covering for the last several months as you know we've talked about is january six out of laughed and the biden regime the media weaponising it against not just the people who were there that day but everyone on the right by extension almost seventy five million trump voters and so How that investigation is accelerating and how it is ensnared now over six hundred americans and they have been even more. Recent arrests have not every week. There are new arrests so with the justice department. Continues this what. I call terror crusade. We could we probably jihad against maga. It is it is. I mean this is what you see. So that the panel discussion yesterday was vaccine mandates and then january six. You could see the convergence relation vaccine mandates The the hunt for the quote unquote insurrectionists criminalising conservatives is it not criminalizing conservatives and criminalizing dissent so that is really what they're doing now the vaccine mandates mandates et cetera. Et one thing But what they're really doing with the january sixth investigation Prosecuting people for trespassing adding felony charges. Keeping now about sixty people behind bars denied bail under pretrial detention dot by. Let's stop here. Sixty people who is any one of them charged with insurrectional revolution. Yeah so what are they challenged with. Julie mostly trespassing civil disorder conspiracy a felony charge. That's very common is obstruction of official proceeding. Which more the two hundred people face. That charges never been applied to a political protests. Ever and never was. It's a two thousand two statute that was posted. Enron that would stop people from interfering in congressional inquiries. It was never intended for people who walked in the capital when they were certifying electoral college. But this is the way that they are turning trump supporters in to convicted

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"the electoral college" Discussed on The 3-1 Collapse

The 3-1 Collapse

06:30 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on The 3-1 Collapse

"Today is may eighteenth the more combat tournament start today with the indiana pieces are hearing a spot for the next round giant food also now said if you were vaccinated you no longer have to wear masks within their stores tonight. We're going to talk about the united states. Unique in recently controversial presidential election process the electoral college. I'm i always by josh levy. You may be noticing that we have someone missing tonight. Greg has accepted the challenge of guarding russell. Westbrook tonight the helpless beloved. Boston celtics here take to the next round of the nba playoffs. We ask you that. You wish the best of luck josh night. I'm doing good. I think the wizards erga upset the celtics. I think greg is gonna get forty points. Dropped on them. I i. I got greg going for forty plus. And you're gonna struggle so westbrook so let's see let's see what happens but Okay let's get right into it. You ready all right. So can you tell the audience. What is the electoral college. In the electoral college system. Each state gets a certain number of electors based on its total number of representatives in congress each elector casts one electoral vote following the general election. There are a total of five hundred thirty eight electoral votes and the candidate. That gets more than half which is to seventy wins. The election and the number of electors per state is based on the population of that state which is based on number representatives in congress. Interesting and i know in recent years is come under controversy and this is not how other countries may do elections correct. Answer your question. Most countries don't have an electoral college system must most Developed countries like their leader in a much different way than we do so begs the question. Why do we even have a system like this. And in recent years has come under. A lot of scrutiny and many people have made cases for removing the electoral college. Many people have said that it's an outdated way of electing president and you electoral college was initially created to help prevent misinformed poorly educated people from doom in the country with an unfit president. At least that was the part or that was the that at least that was part of the reasoning of the founding fathers and seeing how in two thousand sixteen. The electoral college failed service purpose. It has come under increased scrutiny. In recent years one reason to dump the electoral college would be that. It effectively lessened the voting power more populous states because You know in the two thousand twenty presidential election wyoming which is a very sparsely populated. They had three electoral votes. Which is one per one hundred. Ninety thousand residents in wyoming while california will cast a california casted fifty five electoral votes. Which is one per every seven hundred fifty thousand residents and in other words in other words someone in a less populated state has much greater voting power than somebody in a more populated state which causing the question of owning equity across different minority minority groups of people of color and Those groups of people tend to live in more populated more populated states major cities which makes votes count less than people's votes. And it's unfair in party lines to because democratic candidates actually have to win three to five percent more of the popular vote that republicans do in order to win an election nor mathematically yet the appropriate number of electoral votes and unsurprisingly. Republicans oppose abolishing the electoral college in most democrats. Support abolishing the Electoral college and the greatest reason in favor of abolishing Electoral college opinions. That one person should have one vote and it shouldn't be different depending on the state or the county the county that you live and i think it's very well. I agree with you too in a sense and also the your last endo about how democratic candidates to win three to five percent of the popular vote is interesting too because if you look at the last even four president presidential presidents use me only half of lost or having lost the popular vote in their first rate when securing the white house. So obviously george. W bush is the first one in two thousand with the controversial victory over Al gore than donald trump did the same thing in his first run in two thousand sixteen against hillary clinton. And i say this not only because if you look at the ramifications east presidential elections. These candidates have monumental impacts. That will play down to generations. Even if they served four years he look at george w bush. He had two terms and he did win the popular vote in the second time but during his first term we had the tragedy of nine eleven. Of course which is still reeling from. But then we also went into a war that is still lasting to this day and we're just now working to pull out of so if you look at what would happen. Had he not one or not been elected president. According to electoral college would have probably been a different outcome on what we look at today. And of course. Donald trump obviously We kind of already know what he's done in the last few years. So we had covert and how he downplayed that and kind of made it worse overall and devastated the entire population by having this virus. Run rampant in the country without any safety protocols. Initially and you'll also. We have to talked about the january six riot to happen in the result after he lost the second election where he was trying to secure election and lost about joe biden in which many people storm the capital. Mb saw a horrific scene that honestly probably everyone see again. And i also bring up another third person who is not one of those people mention in russia. Verb hayes now arthur hayes was elected president in the eighteen hundreds and he did not win the party. Vote on the electoral college and it was a very heavily disputed race a election and it's known by many historians claim that there is an agreement that the democrats and republicans came to were at the republicans would take the white house but in return because the democrats held influence in the south and they win elections there. They requested that the truth. He pulled out of the south after the following the confederate civil wars. Use me which basically..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on Republic Keeper - with Brian O'Kelly

Republic Keeper - with Brian O'Kelly

03:08 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Republic Keeper - with Brian O'Kelly

"Mail in ballots no provision made for dropbox or curing of ballots. Seven weeks before the twenty twenty general election the pennsylvania supreme court overstepped their bounds by ruling. That mail in ballots could be receiving counted up to three days later. ballots mailed without a postmark would be counted signatures on mail in imbalance would not need to be verified so This is their letter right. And so then Let's see it continues Let's see i gotta get this bigger guys. I can't see sorry advocacy. You probably can't either so of state. Kathy book var also usurped legislative authority by allowing for proliferation of unsecured dropbox in key democratic on the day before the election encourage some counties not all to notify party in candidate. Representatives of mail in voters whose ballots contain disqualifying defects and allowing them to cure these defects in addition to these inconsistencies. Certified republican poll-watchers in philadelphia where prohibited from overseeing the canvassing ballots after court order. These poets should be allowed to observe. They were corralled so far from the canvassing a ballots that they could not view the activities requests from legislators for independent investigations have been ignored by the administration. Do these inconsistent questionable activities. We believe that the pennsylvania election results should not have been certified by our secretary of state. Jane members we asked for more time given the fact that the us supreme court is to hear trump versus book bar in the coming days. We ask that you delay certification of the electoral college to allow due process as we pursue election integrity in our commonwealth. So that is the Members of the penalty pennsylvania's senate Are requesting of mitch. Mcconnell and kevin mccarthy delay certifying pennsylvania until after the supreme court. Here's the case. And after they can conduct an investigation. The members of the arizona senate sent a similar letter so did members of georgia and wisconsin. And so they have all of these. Swing states have Members of the legislature. Who are saying. Hey Constitution gives the authority to us. We took the authority made a definition for how it's supposed to work and these guys changed without asking us and because of that we don't want you to use the way they did it and Vice president pence is supposed to be able to say. Yeah yeah you know what the constitution says the electors come from the legislature. So i'm not gonna read recognize these ones that come from the Secretaries of state now. Who knows if that's going to happen but that is That is what is the theory on the on the book here so quick break and i will be back with a couple.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

04:59 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on KTRH

"Your demand is going up and prices are going to go up also because the Biden administration is going to push for less all in gas, which will make the existing Alling gas more valuable, and we've already seen that price of West Texas intermediate approaching $47 a barrel, you know, So it was. It's already jumped $9 a barrel just on the the likelihood of having a Biden administration, which The Electoral College, said Biden is the next president. So it's a It's a ying and a yang for the business. But you know the industry doesn't want overregulation. But it loves having a Democrat in office and it loves the industry loves. The price is associated with having a Democrat in the White House. We've got about a minute before the break. Could I ask you about your latest personal oil and gas project? The natural gas project that you guys were? I mean, you guys have been involved for the last month or so in East Texas. Very involved and you're smiling like and I asked you before we went on the air. You know where this stacks up, you know, from from a dry hole at the bottom. You didn't. You didn't get anything to your best investments you've ever made. And you You called it one of the best. So why? Why is this new natural gas project that you're in one of your favorites or your ranking? It's so high. It's going to rank right up there with the oil field that I bought years ago for $20,000. It generated about 30 E $5 million in revenue, So it's going to rank right up there because we already took one of the wells and we analyze the geology will analyze the reservoir. We analyzed the structure. It was one of those deals where ah, well was drilled for the you know, natural gas zone A, but they found a being easy but being a sea below it, and they've been producing those for 20 years, and we're like, well Let's analyze the and see what it looks like. So we did it we shot then we we squeezed off or we isolated the lower zones went to the ozone. It was already a better. Well, then all the rest of the field and then we fracked it last week and holy smoke. Was it ever a great So can I put this into in the radio DJ speak. I want to put this in your cliff notes for maybe the people that don't understand A B and C You got first of all the stress project you get you bought. You bought something for pennies on the dollar, you know, right after the shutdown, and people were needing cash So you did that. And the other thing you did is you went into an area that was proven. I mean, so it had gas and natural gas and oil. It wasn't like you were wildcatting in some area And then what you found was some Pocket of natural gas that had been just not Harvested, I guess you Yeah, And what's interesting is we didn't have to drill a new well, but well was already there. So you know, we just why you're smiling. We just went from some old stuff up into a new zone. And it's just like having a brand new virgin. Well, and it's like it's like you bought a house and somebody left a bunch of money in the basement. Yes, exactly. And I'm figuring it that this is Easily. Ah! Not 100 to 200% return on investment. We'll probably make 100 to 200 times our money on this one. Well. And the beauty is We got about seven or eight wells to do this in Hard mark. Well, who's very exciting If you hear what's going on, and we'll get into this morning? No through the hour. Welcome and good afternoon. Smart oil and gas is on the air here on Ktrh. And we're talking about oil and gas for the individual investor this time of year. We get pretty excited because we're coming up against a very important deadline in oil and gas. And that is the end of the year into the years, the deadline to get into an oil and gas program to get the amazing Tax break 100% tax break that we've been talking about that can go against your 2020 taxes. Not many opportunities like that left here in the last part of December, anyway open phone lines to the hour. We can talk about your taxes. In fact, we're projecting tax breaks through the hour till two o'clock. How much less you'll pay for this year's taxes when you get into it, oiling yes program. Before the end of the year. The other thing we do every week on the air here on Ktrh is send out the oil and gas investor guide. And that's a great way to learn more about oil and gas, the different ways to invest, including how to use Irene money to invest how the tax break works and how to pick a good first project to get into. So give us a call. We will send you the guide in his complimentary no charge. Just give us a holler right now. 833645 45 100 is the number 833 6454500 here at smart oil and gas.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

All In with Chris Hayes

06:09 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

"Looked for a time earlier today. Like things could get ugly in michigan. The state closed its house and senate office buildings over what they said were credible threats of violence during today's electoral college meeting and then republican state representative gary isan suggested he and other republicans would disrupt the electoral college vote. He also predicted there. Would be violence prompting this. Can you assure me that this is going to be a safe day in in lansing. Nobody's gonna get hurt no. I don't know what we're doing. Today is chartered. Here's it been done after. Gary isan made those comments michigan. Republican legislative leaders pulled him from his committee assignments. Meanwhile the scene in lansing was thankfully ultimately cau- just a dozen or so pro-trump protesters showing up outside the capitol a chilly day and when he grow group of republican electors tried to enter that building michigan state. Police turn them away. Half of those call was much an often from holding or ignore taking part of your process. Anybody else thank ben check in inside the democratic electors about the people's business where they elected joe biden. Starting barnes. has the tally been completed. Yes lieutenant governor. The elected unanimously cast. Sixteen votes for joseph r biden. I'm joined now by michigan's democratic secretary of state johnson benson earlier. This month had her home surrounded by angry trump supporters. Some of them harmed who falsely accused her of allowing the election to be stolen. But start secretary of state with your your top line on. Today i was. I was a bit worried when i saw the news about closing the house and the senate but it seemed like things went smoothly. How do you feel went today. I think it was a great day for democracy. Chris was really a reflection of all the work that went into this election to ensure that we were able to have a high turnout election <hes>. In the midst of the pandemic all the work that's happened. Since the polls closed on november third to ensure the votes were counted accurately it securely and really this was the the end result of a long and winding road that every step of the way we work to make sure that the voters well was heard and democracy was protected. We have seen now. Obviously there were arrests of a number of individuals who have been charged with allegedly plotting the kidnapping or execution of the democratic governor. Gretchen whitmer <hes>. You had people outside of your house <hes>. Some of them armed a protesting. There were concerned today in arizona. As i understand it where the leading of the electors was moved to an undisclosed location. What does it do to democratic governance and democracy when this sort of threat of violence hangs over the activities of folks. What you know. I started my career in the south investigating and hate crimes all around the country and was really instilled there with the strong sense in an acute awareness of just how much oftentimes does have to be preserved in the potential for violence that that could engender to ensure that democracy does prevail. And so that's never been lost on me and many of us including my friends secretary hobson in arizona. And it's something that we're actually acutely aware rows and willing to with to endure in order to ensure that our democracy is protected. A lot of people have said to me this year. Did you really sign up for this and my response is absolutely. I absolutely signed up to put everything on the line to protect the will of the people to protect our democracy. None of us of course predicted all of the turns of events that have occurred since the polls closed <hes>. But that said we're ready and will continue to be ready. We'll continue to stay safe to ensure that our democracy and turn is also safe. Something i've seen a in many states across the nation in reaction is a real circular logic from republicans in which after touting or tolerating or even endorsing these blue to chris conspiracy theories now pointing and saying well people. Are you know. There's a lot of concern and using that as a predicate for restrictions on voting. Well we're gonna have to shutdown mail in voting. Well we're gonna have to take another look at this. Well we're gonna have to do voter. Id and signature matching all these things. How much you seen that michigan. Do you think there's going to be a battle now about ballot access. The uses these conspiracies as a kind of weaponized tool. Yeah sure it again. That's also what we've seen. Throughout the history of our democracy people create a fire and then create an idea of what needs to put that fire out and often times. Election administrators are stuck in the middle and that voters are are stuck in the middle. When i believe needs to happen is we need to one come together and actually listen to each other and try to heal this. Divide right now but to do so. On the basis of facts and data and truth we all have to be working from the same set of facts here. Facts and truth have actually been unequivocal undeniable throughout this entire process. We had a high turnout election michigan. Five point five million people voted in the midst of the pandemic. It was secure. The results were accurate. So we can start from there. We can find ways to improve the process moving forward making data driven decisions but we also have to do is acknowledge the impact of the conspiracy theories in false information that has been spread by many actors throughout this process and correct that before trying to solve for any potential issues. Moving forward right michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. Thank you so much for being with me.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

03:22 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on The Takeaway

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"the electoral college" Discussed on The How in the World Podcast

The How in the World Podcast

03:51 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on The How in the World Podcast

"That's just how it is folks. Well except in maine and nebraska. These two states have gone rogue and don't allocate their electoral votes to the candidate who won the popular vote. Instead they give two votes to the candidate who won the popular vote and the remainder are awarded based on which candidate received the most in each of their districts. So basically it's like. Each district gets an electoral vote right. Electoral college members also are chosen based on their political party with one slate selected per party so when a candidate wins the most votes in their state. Again with the exception of maine and nebraska. The electoral college slate for that candidates political party are the members who will officially vote in december. Now there can be what's called a faithless elector although most states have lost preventing this a faithless elector is basically an electoral college member who votes against the party. He or she promised to vote for. Now this can get really sketchy but thankfully and knock on wood. Yeah these have never changed the outcome of an election in two thousand sixteen there were actually seven of these faithless electors but all of them voted for a third party candidate so it didn't change the outcome of the election at all and by the way when we talk about a slate selected per party. We mean that there are for as many electoral college members. Is that state perceives. They've selected safe. It's republican they've selected that number of republican electoral college members for the republican party and the democrats have selected that number of democratic electoral college members. So whichever candidate wins the popular vote. That party's list of members. Those are the electoral college math. Those are called asleep so anyway. There's been some controversy lately regarding popular vote versus electoral vote and how it affects election outcomes. There have been five times in our nation's history where the winner of the popular vote has not also secured the most electoral votes most notably. This occurred in two thousand. With the election of george w bush and in two thousand sixteen with the election of donald j trump. This is inspired some folks to try to overturn our election system and move toward a popular vote. The electoral college system tends to favor. Republicans who usually get the more rural vote and therefore the electoral votes from though states while the popular vote systems favors democrats who rely more on the urban heavily populated city voters. All of this boils down to one thing. Your vote matters whether you're part of the popular vote fan club or the electoral vote fan club. Your vote is counted and it matters and having spent the last two working with and on behalf of people who don't have that privilege. I am very serious about voting. It is an honor and it is a privilege and you dare tell me that it doesn't matter or that you didn't vote. She serious folks. I am very serious. But i'm also serious about this. If you like our podcast tell your friends about us and leave us. A five star review. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and send us an idea for an upcoming episode our website. Www dot how in the world podcast dot.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on The How in the World Podcast

The How in the World Podcast

05:50 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on The How in the World Podcast

"This week's episode answers the question. How in the world does the electoral college pick our president. You're listening to the how in the world podcast we're we unravel some of the planet's most perplexing questions in just about ten minutes nope we're not scientists or scholars. We're just normal people who like to figure things out. Sometimes inspiring sometimes informative. Our topics are always fascinating hosted by me mark johnson and my lovely wife me holly johnson. We do the research so you don't have to well. Today is thursday november fifth twenty twenty. And it's been a quiet couple of days around here in the. Us assure was there was something on tv to incessantly. Watch and keep checking my phone about <hes>. What could that possibly be wrong. Oh how about the twenty twenty elections. It's been a wild couple of days folks in it. Looks like it could be wild for a bit longer. So let's all practice are deep breathing and relaxation methods together. Bring your popcorn as the time that we're recording this. I believe the elections come down to maybe four states that haven't yet counted all of their votes but once they're done it's still not over no not even close because once all the votes are counted will know what the results of the popular vote are. But we won't officially know yet. Who won this election. And that's because not only will there be a ton of lawsuits than we unto way through but also because we don't elect our president based on the popular. Vote like you would in the classroom election elementary school. We use the electoral college. And i've always been a little foggy about the electoral college. So i'm glad recovering this today because it forced me to dig deeper really kind of learn about it or you could have just asked your wife who by the way is a political scientist by education. You know yeah. I've been told that. Before so i get a little invested in presidential elections and the preceding debates and political discussion. So what it's fascinating and also frustrating and maddening and kinda stupid also but so fascinating the strategy. He's not even close anyway. Let's talk about the electoral college. Yup that's why we're here. So let's do it and by the way we're going to refrain from any partisan right discussion. This is just about the electoral college. You won't know who we voted for. So for starters you know how annoying all of those census ads and like postcard mailers and mail and information and more ads and everything was reminding us. How important is that we fill out our census form so that everyone is counted yet. And i remember seeing a ton about the census recently. But i believe you filled out the form. Since you're our families designated form filler outer am. I joined it because again i am a political scientist so data and surveys and stuff like that matters anyway. The census is used to determine a lot of things most notably funding to your state for certain services. So if you have a disproportionate number of school aged kids for example it tells the. Us government that you'll need a disproportionate amount of funding for schools. I mean that's really dumbing. It down but funding is a biggie. And doesn't also tell you how many representatives you'll get in the. Us house it does so every state gets two senators so there are a total of one hundred senators in the us senate but representatives are totally different because their allocated based on the census count. Yes they are. There's always four hundred and thirty five of them. No more no less. But how they're allocated can change. So if everyone emptied out of california which currently has fifty three districts and therefore fifty-three representatives and moved to wyoming which currently has just one representative. Those numbers would turn on their head. And by the way. Alaska delaware montana and north and south dakota and also vermont have just one representative yes and there are also some non voting delegates in the hell. They can do everything. The voting members can do except vote. Hence the name right. They can introduce bills and participate in committees <hes>. Currently there is a delegate representing washington. Dc as well as one each for puerto rico. American samoa guam the northern mariana islands. And the us virgin islands. They're also talking about adding a delegate from the cherokee nation and from the choctaw nation which is super cool. Yeah it really is. And the senate and house together are called congress and there are a total of five hundred thirty five members of congress. So that's that hundred senators and the four hundred and thirty five representatives. Each state has the same number of electoral college votes. That they have congressmen or women which means each state has a minimum of three electoral college members. Two senators one representative three so for the the smaller less populated states. They're still going to have three electoral college members.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

Coronavirus Daily

05:35 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

"It is finally election and while some polling sites are shorter lines expected earlier in the day other sites experience some issues. As wmu's jacob fenton tells us in prince william county. They were ballots scanning issues at two polling places according to county officials about this morning weren't scanning properly at tyler. Elementary and battlefield. High officials sent new ballots and new equipment and said all votes would be counted either by hand or with the new equipment in the district. Elections officials are looking into misleading text messages urging people to vote for a non-existent candidate in the dc council at large race. Kristina andersson christina henderson. Who is running for. The seat said the messages did not come from her campaign for wmu. I'm jacob instant. I vote in. Dc is very very blue. The dc at large race has become basically a fight for what kind of democrats will rule the council to give a comparison to national politics in some ways. It's kind of like the bernie sanders wing and the joe biden wing of the party when you go back to june. The democratic primaries business friendly candidates were on the defense back then words two and four had council members who were allies of both mayor. Muriel bowser and chairman phil mendelson the to kind of centers of power when it comes to dc and they were in close races. What ultimately happened. There was a bit of a mixed bag in ward four. Denise lewis george ousted the incumbent brandon todd and she's much more likely than todd to support measures like higher taxes on the wealthy moving money from the dc police budget and more so that was a big win for the progressive left e. block but the winner in ward two. Meanwhile bre pinto she replaced jack evans. He was in mashed in a pay to play scandal. As you might remember. And she's actually already sitting on the council because she wanted a special election to replace evans already. Many of her votes have been two different. From what you might expect from evans for example her vote against tax increase for high income residents so now in the general election. We're seeing that. The more lefty wing is actually on the defense. Unlike in june so council member david grosso is an independent who stepping down among his signature issues were regulating recreational marijuana and decriminalizing sex work. And there's a huge very crowded fight to replace him if he's replaced by someone with real progressive bona fides the next term will see council with a more leftward tilt but if one of the more moderate candidates replaces him it will ultimately end up being a similar composition to what we've already seen on the council no matter what happens. I mean is to kind of big personalities longtime public servants. That are leaving the council jack evans. Of course already gone and now david grosso leaving. So if the council moves to the left that could have a big impact on the dc council as it looks to deal serious crises related to of course the pandemic figuring out what to do about convictions. The question of which businesses and individuals should receive aid and beyond the pandemic rachel. The council is wrestling with questions about police reform and trying to come to a compromise about changes to rent control legislation. And then there's a lot of oversight to be done on city agencies and how they've handled. Well i mean just everything in two thousand twenty. Yeah and that is definitely what people are saying as they go to the polls to vote today. I know when. I was looking at signs outside of my polling place. It was largely people in this large race. I should also mention that. There's an incumbent in the race democrat robert white. He's expected to sail to reelection. And the real question is who is going to replace david grasso as the independent on the council. So do you think voters might feel more invested in this election because of the fair elections program which allows certified candidates to receive public financing. I mean that's a change. I wonder how it has changed the race. Yeah it's a huge change. This is the first general election with public financing. And like i mentioned. There are twenty three candidates running for these two seats. And i think part of that is public financing opened. The race made it possible for more candidates to feel like they had a fighting chance. It also meant that candidates who issue corporate money can still be competitive and for some voters it can become a little bit of a litmus test many of the candidates who position themselves as the most progressive. I'm thinking ed lazier. Marcus bachelor christina henderson. They're all taking part in this program. And some of the more moderate candidates like marcus. Goodwin are going the more traditional route. I should note. It's not a perfect way to categorize candidates by any means for example. Vincent were injured another heavyweight in this race. He used to run. The chamber of commerce builds himself as very business friendly and he's also using public financing so whether that public financing will actually lead to a win. Well we don't know who won yet so we'll keep you posted on that. So many of those names are very familiar. Names to anybody who has been watching dc politics for a while. Thanks for joining us for. Consider this from npr. Listen again next time. And we'll make sense of the major stories happening in the washington region and elsewhere in your world. I'm jonathan wilson. And i'm rachel kersey s..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

Coronavirus Daily

03:40 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

"And republicans. Who don't it did not used to be and you used to be able to get a majority in both major parties. Who would say get rid of the electoral college. Npr political editor. Ron elving points out that. In the last five presidential elections there have been two races won by a republican who lost the popular vote. We talked about what that means for. How candidates campaign and whether things could change so this whole idea of winning the popular vote but losing the election. It's not that unusual right. I mean hillary clinton wasn't the first candidate that happened to know it happened in two thousand and two al gore. He was a democrat. Who won about a half. A million more votes nationally in the popular vote than george w bush. It also happened three times in the eighteen hundreds but most people are more focused on two thousand. What does it mean for how they campaign. We're so used to the red and blue state battle right But what does that mean when they're actually on debate stages on the campaign trail. It changes the issues that are likely to be talked about so for example and fracking. Where a big part of the debates fracking is a means by which to get a more oil and gas out of the ground than we could get before but it has environmental implications so it is an important issue but not to most people in the country. Now i remember like there was a lot of google searches the day after the debate because people are sort of like. Why are we talking about this right now. Exactly and actually. The reason is a handful of counties in western pennsylvania. Were fracking is a part of the employment base if california were in play audio. I suspect we'll be hearing a lot. More from the candidates about wildfires and air quality after hearing about that push for a change to the constitution in nineteen sixty eight. Is there any other series effort to get rid of the electoral college now. I mean i hear a lot of activists talking about it. The most organized effort is called the national popular vote interstate compact each state. That's agreed to the compact has pledged its electoral college votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote. Nationwide than the voting that one st now. The state's in compact at this point have a little less than two hundred electoral college votes. But they need two hundred seventy two actually control the election and they still don't have any states. We would call red republican voting states. There's also the prospect of more states deciding to divide their electoral vote by congressional districts rather than making it winner-take-all maine and nebraska. Already do this. And we have seen them. Divide some of their electoral vote in recent elections. And it could happen again this year. In fact that's why president trump went campaigning. In omaha in the last week of the campaign. Is there any chance. It'd be movement on these ideas before the next election short answer it depends on what happens in this presidential election if.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily

Everything Everywhere Daily

04:07 min | 1 year ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily

"Odd thing is when Arizona and New Mexico were admitted the house increased by two age But the Senate increased by 4 and when Alaska and why were admitted in the fifties the Senate again increased by 4 and the Houston increase at all since 1911. The population of the United States has tripled but the size of the House of Representatives hasn't budged if you can increase the size of house. It dilutes the strength of senate in Electoral College voting currently. The United States has far in a way more people represented by a single legislator than any country in the world. This is directly result of not increasing the size of the house with population growth. There are two major ideas for increasing the size of the house. The first is called the Wyoming rule this would set the number of people that any member of the House represents to be equal to the size of the smallest state today. That would be Wyoming under the Wyoming rule after the 2010 census. The house would have 547 members while this rule sounds fair and appealing there's one big problem with it over the last hundred years wages. The population has tripled the size of house would have actually shrunk this is because the ratio of the population of the largest state to the smallest state has actually gone down in Nineteen Hundred. The largest state New York was 111 times bigger than the smallest state Nevada today, California is only sixty six times bigger than Wyoming and that ratio keeps going down shrinking the size of house with respect to population growth doesn't really make a lot of sense. The other proposal is the cube root rule. This is based on the fact that many legislators around the world. Tend to have sizes that approximate the cube root of the population as the population increases the size of legislature increases, but at a slower rate under the cube root rule there would be 693 members of Congress or 593 members of the house. Most of the new Representatives would go to larger States and correspondingly. They would get more electoral votes the small stage still only have one representative the nice part about this plan is that would be super simple to implement would not require a constitutional amendment and you wouldn't have to redraw the maps and it would result in more class representation across the board for everyone all the time. So I'd say if you'd want to change the Electoral College the easiest way is to just change the size of the House Representatives. Before I close the show I should talk about the issue of faithless electors because you actually vote for electors and not the president. There isn't anything really stopping an elector from deviating from the candidate. They took a vote for this happens quite frequently, but it has yet to affect the outcome of an election faithless electors do allow for some flexibility. For example, in 1872. One of the two mil Raha died four days after the general election took.

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"the electoral college" Discussed on Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

06:24 min | 2 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

"Everybody I'm John Dan host and moderator of intelligence squared. Us debates for this episode. I got online with four debaters. Who argued over this resolution? The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. This was a debate that we had originally planned to host with our partners at northwestern law school in Chicago. We were GONNA do it at the law school. Obviously that did not happen. What did happen was that we had instead of a great debate. Digitally has turned out to be incredibly timely topic. So let's get to it the Electoral College. It's this unique construct of indirect democracy that well. It's it's not a college as the term is commonly used but it sure is electoral in that its members who are currently maxed out at five hundred thirty eight have been the actual electors of every president we've ever had since we've had a constitution even those five times in our history when the popular vote went to someone else in recent memory that happened in the two thousand election happened in the two thousand sixteen election. So what were the founders thinking? That's a question that right now. The Supreme Court is considering in an electoral college case but why did the founders think? The Electoral College was needed. And what good has come of it and also what harm has come of it. Well in these questions we've been thinking. They're the makings of a debate. So we had it for really really good debaters said yes or no to this statement. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness as always Our debate goes three rounds and our audience tuning it online voted to decide our winner. But you can still weigh in on this when yourself if you're just listening for the first time to this debate we are taking votes right now at Iq to us dot org that's q the number two US dot org. If you go there you can cast your first vote before you hear the arguments you can vote for or against or undecided on the resolution. You know what? I'll give you a test to do that right now. I'll wait for you. Remember you cast votes one now in one after you've heard the argument and it's the team that changes the most mind. Who will be our winner? So go do that. I'll wait for you. So let's meet our debaters. I up to speak for the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. Jim Bowie Jim. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me Djamil. You are in New York Times columnist and political analyst for CBS News. You are also an alumnus of our series. So it's great to have you back also arguing on your team for the resolution. I want to say hello to kate. Shaw Kate. Welcome to intelligence squared. He John Thanks so much for having me. And you're a professor at the Cardozo School of law and Co Director of the floor Shurmur Center for Constitutional Democracy. You're also a host of the very popular law. Podcast strict scrutiny. So that's the team arguing for the resolution. The Electoral College has outlived. Its usefulness. Now let's meet the team arguing against that very low resolution. I let's say hello to Tara Tara. Welcome to intelligence squared. It's great to have you with us on one folks to know that you are the author of a lot of books about the electoral college including why we need the Electoral College. You're also a former lawyer and editor of the Texas Review of law and politics and your partner. I WANNA welcome also to intelligence squared Bradley Smith. Bradley Hi Welcome to intelligence squared tie. Thanks John Pleasure to be here and you are a professor at Capital University Law School and you have served as Commissioner Vice Chairman and Chairman of the Federal Election Commission welcome. I want everybody to know that was always our debate will go in three rounds and then you those folks out in the world are online audience. Get to vote to decide who the winner is all right. I think we are ready to move. Onto round one opening statements from each debater and turn those statements will be formed. It's each our resolution is the electoral college has outlived its usefulness. And here I up to speak for that Resolution Jamal Buoy columnist for the New York Times. Djamil your time starts right now. I'm going to begin with a discussion of how we got to the Electoral College in the first place and the think he thing I want everyone to understand. Is that the electoral college that we have the one we will use. November's election is that not actually the one that was ratified in seventeen. Eighty eight gone. Electoral College fell out of use quickly. What we have is essentially an extra constitutional mechanism to deal with the exegesis of politics as they've developed from the beginning of the constitutional convention and specifically when they began thinking about the national executive the delegates for trying to balance four simply four competing things from came to Hal. Choose and national executive They wanted a voice for the People. They wanted a fair representation for slave states They wanted independence from the legislature in. May had to deal the very simple question of. How do you actually choose national executive? In a big large diverse country they cycled through a few things Several delegates including teams Madison Propose Popular Election Others propose choosing from Congress But by the time They came to a conclusion which was at the very last minute the convention. They decided they would do this. Elector based system that each state would choose. Electors would gather together as a kind of congress of it's filtered through candidates They would the majority whoever won the majority of electors would become president Sprout Vice President and if there was no winner at to the house would choose on the basis of the delegations. No one was really entirely satisfied with this when they came to the conclusion but everyone expected more or less at the president of the Convention George Washington would become the first chief executive and this was a a straightforward way to get George Washington took become President United States. No one was really too worried about it. There is debate over During the revocation debates. But it wasn't a big sticking point. No one was too worried about mob rule in these discussions. They weren't worried about excessive democracy. Usually when the founders talked about democracy they were talking but a Fenian style. 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"the electoral college" Discussed on Pat Gray Unleashed

Pat Gray Unleashed

03:29 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on Pat Gray Unleashed

"Pat, gray. So Colorado has become the latest date and the first swing state to join a group pledging to elect presidents based on who wins the national popular vote trying desperately to navigate the electoral college. Yeah. And also trying to put their own citizens on the outs eleven other states and the district of Columbia have signed on to the national popular vote. Interstate compact. The end PV. I see which is so catchy. Just rolls right off the tongue the nip Vic died, the the the the the nip Vic it agreement that requires those states to select their presidential electors based on who wins the most individual votes nationwide, regardless of which candidate wins, the state is negatives. Yes, you're states vote house stupid. Governor Jared polis signed the Bill Friday bringing the state into the compact. It goes into effect only wants states with at least two hundred seventy electoral votes. The number needed to win the presidential election have signed on and Colorado brings the count now to a hundred eighty one they're less than a hundred away. I know I this at all. Two to seventy before. Now, they say to two hundred seventy before the twenty twenty election appears unlikely, but they had zero just a little while ago. Fatten Hon, this was fast my goodness because a couple years ago, and they some people talking about getting rid of college. It was just kind of in passing. But the Democrats are they're angry because in two thousand gore 2016. Yeah. And my goodness. Now, you've got that's a mainstream idea. You've got presidential candidates talking about this. Elizabeth Warren's ready to get rid of it. My gosh, they definitely have momentum. You're right that momentum with same sex marriage. And they got that done. They had momentum on marijuana. They've pretty much got that done that fights basically over. Now, something that you just I mean really believed impossible just to short time ago is really possible if not likely. People stand up for the constitution here. This is really dangerous stuff. Supporters say that concept would create a fairer basis for presidential elections by essentially going around the electoral college and creating system where each individual vote counts the same. It would also motivate potential voters in non swing states to come out to polls, they say, I don't see how when you know, your entire state's election may be voided by who wins the national vote. And so Democrats can now they don't have to focus on individual states for their voter fraud. They can just go anywhere. They just need to get that number higher anywhere. It again, if if the electoral college doesn't matter say goodbye to any campaigning in small states..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

FiveThirtyEight Politics

02:30 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

"And maybe if you also said that, hey, look, if no one wins a majority, then it's the plurality winner that matters. And you don't go to congress. There are a lot of things that they the to college represents we should say which parts of those systems. Do we not like okay mic you posited? The everyone thinks both. So what your argument for why? That is the electoral college is horrible. Because I think distorts won the incentives of campaigning in weird way and away from certain interests and towards other interests that has a skewing affect and to because you end up with weird scenarios where the person who wins the presence did. Didn't win the most votes, and that just seems weird to me and wrong. That's not a partisan statement. By the way, the the times it's happened recently has benefited Republicans. But like it could have happened the other way in two thousand four and the elect the advantage in the electoral college swings back and forth. But I'm not saying you have to get rid of the electoral college. I think if you made some of the tweets like like may mentioned, you could make it better and still have still have some of the benefit whatever those might be that that brings. But like American sense of democracy has gotten more democratic since the founders. Yeah, we have we used to we implemented direct election of senators that used to not be the case. And I think we should update our systems to to reflect that but I want to hear what neat s- Nate layout. You just said something right before Mike started talking about how the electoral college contains certain by season, we should lay out which ones we like. And don't like and what we're talking about here. Yeah. Doesn't give white people. More people are confusing. The criticisms of the Senate with the ones of the electoral college, right? I mean. Yeah. It slightly tips. The scale toward smaller states and smaller states population. Wise tend to be more rural and more white at least Naito college DC gets to vote which it does not in the Senate. Maybe it's not a bad thing to like allow a finding number of votes in each state, which are allocated. I would hope in the same way across state, by the way, if you look at like what happens if you do proportional in two thousand sixteen so if you ignore third party votes, then you'd wind up with Clinton two hundred and seventy Trump two hundred and sixty eight. Which are can you go back? But you've only you've basically only laid out one reason for the electoral college that it that it favours small states. What are the other ones? I'm not. I'm not saying it's a good thing..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

FiveThirtyEight Politics

02:31 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

"That's more materials is the winner. Take all by state, right? Like, I believe I've ever done. This math. If electoral votes have been assigned proportionately instead of winner take all into thousand sixteen then I believe Clinton would have won under an electoral college system. So it'd be like, okay. Trump beat Clinton fifty five forty five in Texas. So Trump get fifty five percent of Texas is electoral vote. Yes. What effect would you say the existence of the electoral college has on our presidential campaigns. Well, because the winner take all thing, it means that resources are disproportionately targeted to a state where winning by one vote would get you all the state's electoral votes. Right. That's the effect. It has. So it gives us swing states, basically. Yeah. Getting because California's a matter New York doesn't matter Texas. I didn't used to matter maybe a manage. Now. Texas's swing state you heard it here. First people, South Dakota to North Dakota's matter, Mike in more ways than one the electoral college is horrible. We all agree about that. Right. I yes, I think it's I think you're saying everyone agrees with that. I don't have any -pinion on this. I'm like Bush. I, but I do think people find it generally offensive because it seems such an impenetrable idea, and that a lot of Americans don't understand it don't understand how the how the votes are apportioned. I think you know, someone worded it. Well, when they said when you cast your vote for president you're actually electing a slate of voters who will then vote for president. That is. I mean, listen, we we are. We are not a, you know, a Theniet direct democracy, right? This is the form of democracy that we've chosen a Representative democracy. But there is something about it where it's the layers people dislike that they dislike that it is not an intuitive system. And the fact that you have all these random people called electors like you could reform that part. I look the other argument for the electoral college is that elections are administered by states. And also the question of who is eligible to vote, for example, some states very aggressively disenfranchise felons. Some do not some. Voting easier or harder. So maybe kind of fix a number of votes that each state is allowed to award is a worthwhile thing to do. You know, I know. But again, if you had like, a proportional electoral college system that would solve a lot of the problems. If you got rid of these weird actual people called electorates..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

FiveThirtyEight Politics

04:26 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

"All right. Are you guys ready for a fiery electoral college debate? It's going to defend the Republican candidate for president has only won the national popular vote once since one thousand nine hundred eighty eight that was of course, in two thousand four both Presidents Bush junior and Trump were initially elected by the electoral college while losing the popular vote. And now reformers largely Democrats are trying to sideline the electoral college, the national popular vote interstate compact last week, Colorado governor Jerry police said that he would sign the compact after it passed the state legislature and that would make Colorado the twelfth state to join the compact let's begin with the basics who wants to explain the concept of the national popular vote, compact states, get to decide how they wore their electoral college votes, if enough states decide to award all the votes to the winner of the national popular vote enough being states, consisting of two hundred seventy electoral votes. It would defacto give us a national popular vote election right now in twenty twenty if Jay Inslee wins, Colorado and beats Trump there, then Colorado's nine electoral votes would go to Jay Inslee. But if Trump wins the popular vote nationally, even if Inslee beats. Trump in Colorado. If this compact plays Colorado's nine electoral vote, go Trump and just to give you the numbers of where things are right now after Colorado joins they'll have one hundred eighty one electors about ninety electors off from what they actually need. And in case, you're curious about whether or not your state is in this compact. The members are New York, California, Hawaii Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington, probably not surprising. Does this seem bad like heavily states decided to get cute with overriding their voters preferences? Can I there's a history so electors who do not vote for the person who won their state are called faithless electors? And there have been a number of them throughout history. I looked this up twenty sixteen actually had the most in our history, the most faithless electors who went against basically voting for Donald Trump. So this is kind of like this. Like the statewide version of being a faithless elector in some ways. It was just imagining that, you know, the show cheaters I don't know if it's actually called cheaters, but where they catch people cheating on their significant others on camera. If they had like a version of that for faithless electors where it's like begin. Although to be fair the way that the electoral college is set up is each state gets to decide how it awards, it's elector. So for example, in a state like Maine, you don't have all the electors going to the person who won the state popular vote. So I don't think they would be considered faithless electors under this compact because the states changing its own walk. So what if a democrat wins Texas in twenty twenty and then the Texas legislature, which is still Republican dominated decides? We're going to have a vote in the state legislature to decide who gets sexist electoral votes. Whoops. It's not data work. It's President Trump. And as a result, President Trump has been reelected. There you go. I think you have a constitutional crisis. Yeah. I mean, this would be. Crisis. If this compact happened, it would be a constitutional crisis. It's a constitutional workaround. Right. It's it's a it's a workaround Bork around is a good time for. Yeah. All right. So we dove right in. But let's let's take a step back and ask a really basic question. Claire, why do we have the electoral college to begin with? It's a it's a compromise. The basic gist is the founding fathers wanted states with smaller voting populations which tended to be southern states because they had people who were in slave to couldn't vote those states were protesting the popular vote way of doing things because they said, listen people candidates from the big states. They're going to win every single time. And we're gonna get shut out. And so the short version is basically the electoral college is meant to be compromised that allows states with smaller populations to have more say in who's elected? And it was the other side of the coverage where people who just wanted congress to. Sorry. I mean, the fact that way omen gets three votes. When it should have one is pretty immaterial the part..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

FiveThirtyEight Politics

03:28 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

"The endorsement talker on fivethirtyeight dot com. But Nate let's begin with this who's endorsements. Are we tracking and why those specific people it's gonna wind up being around a thousand people. We're tracking Democrats who are part of the party or relevant luminaries in the party either because they held public office or formerly did where because they're a part of the DNC, which is the organization that is the official organization of the party. Our highest grades are given to national party leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, for example, are Tom Perez the head of DNC currently as well as former presidents and vice presidents, if President Obama were to endorse someone for that matter Jimmy Carter were to endorse someone that will be a big signal of like, here's what the Democratic Party stands for all the way down to one point four someone who's just a somewhat random DNC member. But still. Was someone who actually could become a super delegate if the nomination goes to multiple ballots. That's also quite relevant, and they are like literally member of the party. So yeah, it's like looking for what prominent Democrats are doing and we decided to be more comprehensive than for years ago. When when we only looked at governors and members of congress, what does the endorsement tracker, tell us at this point in time. If anything it tells us that it's wide open is the first and most important beat something like only eleven percent of the total possible endorsement points have been achieved. So VAR eighty percent of that eleven percent. So nine percent. Total is candidates who were endorsed in state. So Cory Booker, Amy club char and Kamala Harris, this Buchanan's have material number of endorsement points, so far, but they are from almost all there are exceptions New Jersey, Minnesota and California respectively. But can't tell you something, right? Interesting. That Booker and flow chart, we're able to basically sweep everyone in their states, at least, whereas for example, is with Warren their law Democrats, Massachusetts a little bit. Mixed for her and Kristen gillibrand law Democrats in New York, she has no indoor expense expensive, all so far. It's interesting that Bernie Sanders is in fourth place, which is not great on the one hand for someone who is second place in the polls, the first place among declared candidates in the polls and way ahead and money, but still it's actually like on-track to be a lot better than it was for years ago. So Sanders has more mainstream by now ill tell you more different phases of the campaign, and by the way, readers if you see endorsements that we have not included in our tracker just tweet at Nate, silver, not tweet at me tweet at Aaron Bychkov, who's running the endorphin tracker part of the reason that we're tracking these endorsements right is because of the party decides theory, Mike, can you flesh out a little bit more? How much stock are we putting in that theory this cycle medium stock? Why's that? Well, historically, even including thousand sixteen. In the party decides model of presidential primaries, which I think you described well at the top as a pretty good track record. It has had some big MRs, you know, the 2016 Republican primary being the big one. It's pretty big miss. Yeah. That is a a big mess. But you know, even the same year, you know, that the two thousand sixteen democratic primary was was sort of the prototypical example, maybe of of the party decides. Yeah, working. Yeah. And the fact that you didn't have anyone else apart from Bernie Sanders run against Clinton. I mean, I think one could argue that Sanders did better than you would expect from the party decides view, but it was awesome..

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"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

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02:17 min | 3 years ago

"the electoral college" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics

"Have you ever been you have been arrested who have been arrested? Have you been arrested Nate? Yep. We got we. I'm not telling us the only one who has been arrested. Hello. And welcome to the fivethirtyeight politics podcast. I'm Galen drew the field of contenders for the democratic nomination has grown again. Since the last time, we were all together this time by two people there various ways, I think to count. How big the field is now, but we'll put it somewhere between twelve and fourteen major Democrats. And that means also that it is time for some music. So here we go. Governor of Washington Jay Inslee announced on Friday that he's running for president. And I think we have to do the music again, you have the second one sleep. Here. We go. And also former governor of Colorado John Hickenlooper announced that he's running for president today on Monday and here with me to discuss these new candidates and much much more our editor in chief needs silver. Hey, how's it going good? I could actually name all the democratic candidates without looking we're not going to ask you to do that right now. There's too many. Heard. I believe you hope you could also with us is senior politics writer, clam alone. Hey, Claire, how are you what fresh L is this? How many listeners have we lost? So far. And managing editor Mike, Mike. How are you? I'm good fabulous. We have a big show today. In addition to the new candidates, we fivethirtyeight also recently launched are twenty twenty endorsement tracker. So we're going to introduce that and talk about how much endorsements and party influence of matter in the Trump era. We're also gonna talk about the merits of the electoral college last week, Colorado became the latest state to pass the national popular vote compact aimed at ditching the electoral college all together. Also, I think now is a nice time to remind people that we have a live show. If you wanna see us in person, go to five thirty eight dot com.

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