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Hey, welcome in welcome in glad to have you on this edition of other side at Texas broadcasting from the racer car wash studios in my say. I'm playing through the pain playing hurt. Don't know what's going on Byerly. But I'm rolling along here in the race car wash studios. Racer car wash voted love expense wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations across hub city for the best wash around guaranteed racer wash dot com to find your best location. They're big show. Head w today Tech's Tribune's Ross Ramsey up. Here is we broadcast live twelve minutes from now. And then Thomas Mooney of news slaying it we're going to have some new candidates for bumper music on the program excited. Have Tom Mooney out to tell us about the latest in Texas music. Also have Daniel the digital guru in studio. Daniel how you to ingrates beautiful, Dane. West Texas, lovely weather. He got to talk a little bit louder. Okay. It's great outside. It's really cool. Good weather. Got my slides on. I'm feeling good. What slides slides are like. Slippers? Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm not wearing shoes. Daniel the millennial. Guru. I am I'm an older millennial. Okay. So a more refined millennial my taste has been refined over the years for share. Okay. Daniel in studio with us. It's mom sees real. I told you that he's a real dangling studio with us. This is where I'm going to start today for we give Ross Ramsey getting to bring you the latest on had somebody called me and said, you know, what they told me was if you really want to know what's going on. You gotta listen to other sides of Texas. I appreciate those compliments what's going on in state government right now, we're going to get into with Ross Ramsey state government matters more than anything else, and it Beck's your day to day life more than anything else. Does we stay on top of that here? But one thing that is really just. I've heard I've heard this a lot last week when the rob was in Austin. Kill Seliger state Senator in Amarillo. He's a free agent. That's the term that I continue to be heard about Kelso GRA now. Listen, here's the deal. Kill Seliger is worth. I believe I believe he's worth a couple hundred million dollars. And if you're worth a couple hundred million dollars, a hope that your free agent Daniel if you are worth a couple of hundred million dollars, would you be a free agent. Yeah. I'd probably have a burrito shop, and you know, maybe own a liquor store too. And then free agent. Yeah. And then I'd probably have something to do. Maybe not the sod poodles. But like the the great Amarillo, actually, I bring the army dillas back. I remember seeing that now's your force. Yeah. The Armadillo was back. We'd have to teams name rela knowing Armagh dillas and then Saad poodles. So this is my argument is that guys who have represented this region from the cap rock to the panhandle have always been they've always been free agents. Now just hear me out George Mayon. Let me tell you a couple of stories about George Mason, George may Han was US congressman in this area from nineteen thirty five until nineteen Seventy-nine. He's Jody airing tin's original predecessor. When it came time for then president Lyndon Baines Johnson to get emergency funding for the Vietnam war. He had to go through the appropriations chair who was the appropriations chair, George Mahone. George Han voted with his party sixty percent of the time in his last two sessions. Now, you could say that's because Texas was turning your say what it is. But it's always been free agency. That's my point. What did he do with his free agency? He put together a little deal. The president called him said, hey, we need money for this war in Vietnam. And George Mahan respondents said we'll uneasy some money for my farmers in producers to get some agd products to export to which the president respond. Are you telling me it's gonna take an interstate out of Lubbock for me to get my Vietnam money to which George may hunt said yes, that's what it's going to require president. And I'll spare you his. Libbed nece. But might Ajab mother drop the GD and said, I'll call you back in thirty minutes. Thirty minutes later. I twenty seven LBJ calls back and says you've got your interstate. Now, give me my money. That's how I twenty seven one of the shortest interstates in America came to pass. Now when about the other ten miles that just went to the north side Lubbock, what about the ten miles. That stretches across Lubbock George may Hawn worked with that. Terrible. Awful democrat tip O'Neill leader the house during the Reagan administration tip O'Neill made a deal with George Mahan raven on as he was George Mayon. That he would support the underground railroad system. An underground railroad. Excuse me underground subway system. I almost went Harriet Tubman. Yeah. That was really confusing for a second. But also really exciting how 'cause it was a long time ago, you know, different era now. Okay. That he would support the underground subway system im- Boston. If he got ten more miles of interstate across Lubbock, which would be the extension of I twenty seven from the north loop. All the way across Lubbock is it dwindles down into eighty seven. Now, there's an excellent documented the about the subway in Boston. But how is just a giant open pit for a really long time. But do they talk about George may haunt in that I don't know this service to the American people, and they didn't make the Lubbock connection. So it took Lubbock to make it happen. Really? That's what west Texas cans do. And that's my point is that George may haunt. For all those years emblematic of most lawmakers in this region, a free agent Delwen Jones, I could make the case for Delwan Jones at nauseam could also go into and I will go into. A cotton farmer in hill center. His name was Pete Laney. Who was a free agent in worked with a word to cross the aisle. It's almost like plink go in reverse plink. Oh from prizes, right. Like Linko in reverse works its way across the aisles. And then. In then makes a good policy point in. That's what Pete Laney did over and over again in that tally was elected speaker of the house, and that's always bellowing crown this program is who will be the free agent because if you're straight line partisan, you're going to be a west Texas can't Nana west Texas, can and that's the cry that we need in. It's not just a guy get down on you. Daniel is like the digital millennial. Guru. That's true. But. You in your cohorts are the future. That's true. Like where does millennial Goto like you gotta be born in what year, I think from like. Maybe eighty five two. Nineteen ninety nine. Okay. So I'm seventy nine. Okay. So I've got a listening base that I think in you'd have to look at the demos for me. But majority of who listens to us on the program because you go through all these numbers, right? Is about my younger. Yeah. No generation y. The wires here. But it takes a west Texas can to get things done in. Those people have always been free agents, quote unquote, free agents in I could go through a dozen other names, they probably wouldn't recognize now, I don't know. What's gonna happen? We're gonna talk to Ross Ramsey coming up. What's going to happen? Kill cylinder in where he's going to. He's been the chair of higher education in the Senate fairly powerful seat going to see where he lands in the next few days is the Senate announces their appointments, but you gotta be smart. You gotta be shrewd to sit at that table. And you gotta be a west Texas can in those are all labels it what us above free agents. And that's where I want to start this edition of the program going to get in with Ross Ramsey coming up right here after this quick break. Stick right with this on other side of Texas. Some. All the stars up in this. Yeah. So. Jags. Go out to the phone lines. We have our friend the one and only Ross Ramsey Texas Tribune Ross Ramsey. How are you buddy? There. You are Ross. Sorry, great. I'm doing great. What's going on? What we were one button away from hitting on cue that close. Yeah. That that close you went to the inauguration. What were your takeaways? Well, I noticed that the first thing I noticed when I was out. There was that. There was a head in the middle of the median, and so the people in the UT band couldn't see the people in the Aggie band and vice versa. So we can't we kept him from fighting riot protection. Where was it? Take man. I don't know. I guess they were in Lubbock, or, you know, I don't know. I don't know eating hamburgers at the White House. I think they were not eating hamburgers. They were there. I know that I saw picture evidence can add to the president in the chancellor after the show where were the band's how many how many would you say we're in the UT and ADM bans know, they were they actually had small bands up there. There were probably fifty piece small for civil for university bans. I mean, all all three of those bands can put a mob on the field. But you know, they were small concert bands. So when we fifty people up in Lubbock, that's what we're entering with here is why can't we bring fifty from Lubbock? You know, let me know how it goes gay. Just it was it was interesting. They did they did a couple of things differently. They did it on the north side of the capitol, which is. Unusual. It's usually on the, you know, usually when you see things at the Texas capitol there on the south steps of the capitol facing down congress avenue. This was on the north side facing university of Texas. And the argument was that the sight lines are better because there aren't trees on that walk. So for whatever reason they put it out there. Issue. Why on this side of the building? No, it was just you know it. It's like anything else. If you do something for, you know, a, you know, decades, and then change it everybody goes, wait. Wait, wait. What are you doing? No wasn't a big deal at all. It was actually a very nice setup. And they had a good little deal and. Abbott and Patrick got sworn in and spoke, and then everybody kinda went home the house came in today. The Senate came in today for the sole purpose really passing resolutions that said they won't be back until Tuesday of next week, and you know, the legislative sessions in Texas start the same way roller coasters start you kind of go real slow, and you go up this really slow hill and nothing happens for a few minutes. And then it goes crazy, and we're in we're in the hill, climbing part. The people asking questions Ross about like, we especially in the midst of a government shutdown in people tend not to disconnect the two, but you've got lawmakers in Texas who've been dismissed today through Tuesday, I believe on the house and Senate side and asking why are these people still getting paid when there are federal employees are not still getting paid apples to oranges. But the question still resonates. They're getting paid six hundred dollars a month. They get a nother peace. They get what's called a per diem daily rate when they're in town. So you know, one way to do this would be to say they get the six hundred dollars whether they're in session or not and they don't get the other money unless they're in Austin. And if there's no reason to have them in Austin. You just let them go home. And you don't pay them. They'll so let's talk Texas legislature. When the one at one of the first moves that we see is that the house and the Senate the only thing they have to get done in a legislature is pass a budget. We see the houses initial proposed budget. I don't know how many other adjectives I can use to say, this isn't the budget. But it's the initial proposed budget. Has a certain amount of money for public education. Some say seven some say nine billion for public education the Senate coming in at three point five. What do you make about that discrepancy? Well, first of all, what do based budgets matter? And Secondly, whether the discrepancies in the based budgets, Matt Ross, it's a, you know, think of a budget, you know, works like all the other legislation, but it's a complex when it's about a thousand pages long and think of this as a one hundred and forty day negotiation, and the first thing you do in negotiation to say, here's my proposal. And the other side says here's my proposal. And then you sit down, and you start knocking out the differences, and you start, you know, the first thing you do is you lay in in the legislature is you lay out your proposal for the people on your own team. So if you're in the house, you lay out of house budget, so that the people in the house can. Fiddle with it and change this. And I don't like that. And let's put this over there. And they do their version of it the senate's doing the same thing somewhere. You it usually happens in late March or early April they finish their versions of the budget and each sends their version to the other house, and then they start negotiating between the houses. And and you know, the house will eventually vote out a budget Senate will vote out a budget. They'll go to a conference committee, which is five people from the house and five people from the Senate, they'll really hammer it out and at the end of it. We always get a budget. It takes a while. But you basically say here's our first opening bid. Here's their first opening bid. And that's where we are today. Okay. So when about this incongruent now, we're gonna get into how the big three or singing Coon by ya right now. But right, there's a lot of difference. Between what the house is laid out in. And this is how I'm going to put it in criminal if I'm wrong, my political counselor. Ross Ramsey it seems like the house wants to bolster the public institution that is public education and the Senate simply wants to bolster the employee's of that institution is a wrong way of looking at it because they're a long ways off billions of dollars off. Well, yeah, I mean, the only real difference. There's two big differences one of them is they're using a different number. And that's really just you know, how much does the Senate want to spend that much the house wanna spend. And that's the beginning of number negotiation. The second one is how do you want to spend the money in the house has been relatively less specific and the Senate has been pretty specific about at least a part of this. And the Senate has said let's spend three point seven billion of the money that we're going to give to public education on five. Thousand dollar raises for each teacher. Now, if you were in the in the house budget, and you just said, let's spend a bunch of money on schools a bunch of that money is going to turn out to be part. It turned out to be teacher pay the Senate just being specific about it. Right. You don't spend money. You don't send money to the students. They don't get checks. So you know, you were going to spend it on something. And it may well be that the house's version gets spent on teachers just as well. So, you know, the governor is talking about something else that, you know, both the house and the Senate are open to which is rewarding schools financially that perform better where the students do better. And you know, you know, maybe giving them a little bit more money for this or that. And you know, there are going to be a couple of questions, you know, the broad questions or how much more money are you going to spend on schools? What are you? You going to do in terms of changing the way we distribute the money we spent on schools, here's a dollar. How do we spend it or here's two dollars? How do we spend it? You know, that's the school finance part. Are you gonna spend enough state money on schools to lower pressure on local school property tax rates, and maybe even up the share of the cost of public education that local tax payers and state tax payers pay. And all of those questions are interlinked and both the house and the Senate proposal, and what the governor has said, you know, less specifically are are elements of those three questions Rossellini thinks a bigger issue for people right now. No, I'm gonna ask you to take on your own poll analysis here. What's a bigger question standardized tests or property taxes property tax? Okay. What people pay it, the, you know, if you do standardized testing and talk about it, the people that are impacted about that one way or the other are really emphatic about it. But you know, they tend to be they're not all, but they tend to be parents and educators, and parents and educators school parents have school. Children and educators are outnumbered by property tax payers. Ross Ramsey at Ross Ramsey on Twitter as we carry along here. I want to ask you this for people, especially people who are listening live and listened the podcasts Ross there's a discrepancy of seventeen point three million dollars in the house versus four point one million dollars in the Senate for the vet school in the base budgets again. We're back to base budgets, but that's a pretty wide diversion between those two on that particular issue. Now, we just got done talking about public education were billions of dollars apart. But on the vet school were millions of dollars apart some thirteen point whatever million dollars apart. How does it play out? What what going to be part of it's going to be. I mean, it's going to be negotiation and sometimes those small differences oftentimes, those small differences are harder to reconcile than the big. Differences. I'm talking about a big difference. Like three billion dollars in schools that spread out over so many districts. It's a little bit hard to say, well, the house wins this we have to fire that guy. And if the Senate wins it we get to keep him. You know, it's not that specific when you start talking about particular programs like a vet school in a particular location at a particular time when you feel with the dollars in that that's a direct budget. That's a straight up, you know, you're arguing over in this case, whether or not tech is going to have a vet school, and, you know, whether they're in the budget or not, you know, there's partly the you're in the budget, partly and you get to spend the money and you're authorized, and as, you know, as well as anybody the weather tech gets to have a vet school still very much in the air. Okay. I'll take that. So tell us Ross Ramsey wouldn't make about the Koumba yon between the big three the gov- Lieutenant governor and the speaker of the house sound like something a reporter would say by John. Yeah. You know, we like it when they fight. Right. You know, it's interesting. They are making you know, really pleasant noises about each other. I think we're all on the same page. I think we're all talking about the same thing. We all want the same stuff. And you know that has happened before it's been a while. I mean, they've been kind of test the up here for a while. And you know, it's interesting to see the top three in Texas, whoever they are starting off. Nice. It's been awhile since they did that the question in a legislative session. Again, it almost doesn't matter who the players are is will they be able to hold this. Is it going to be is it gonna survive everything from the fights over things like the that school to the fight over the debate over the negotiation over whatever you wanna call it over public school, finance and property taxes. Is it going to survive? If you know, the governor wants a particular thing that the Lieutenant governor, and or the speaker don't want. There are a bunch of ways to slice this one way to think about the Texas capitol is that you know, that building was built for fighting. It's you know, we don't have wars anymore. We have debates. I mean, you know, you have these votes and everything and things can get pretty heated over there. And even if you're in a good mood, and even if you're working with friends, you can get sideways. So right now, they're, you know, everything looks like a hallmark card or an after school movie or something, and it may remain that way it would be unusual. If it did. So that right now, they're all saying nice things about each other about each other's ideas. So I never ask you to be the predictor at least not explicitly. But if things that every week, you don't give me the over under on where things would fall apart. What date would you say this is where things fall apart between the big three? You know, I don't know that I would predict that they will. It may be that they get all the way to the end the session gets more and more difficult as it goes on to Ross maybe not somewhere in there. You you run against deadlines and you start running out of time and you start getting down to brass tacks. And people getting exactly what they want and people settling for something else. And that's when tensions get high. And that's when tempers rise, and these guys may be so focused on school finance property taxes teacher pay raises, you know, school safety that they avoid all of that. And only the only thing I'll predict about it is that that usually that kind of togetherness usually doesn't completely hold. Okay. One last little question for you. Let me peek pick your brain a little bit. I've gotten quite called just texted. Then it's been the question on lot of people's minds here in Lubbock in the surrounding area. Has Avium ever offered up of flag football game and bust lawmakers to cow field to play this game free beer this way in that. Yep. Okay. It's happened before was the last summit happened. The had a guy I, you know, this is a pretty regular affair. They had a guy in the Texas house. It was a former pro football player. Name Scott Turner from plano or from Prisco. He was from Collin county. And I remember I believe it was two sessions ago. Everybody came back from that game at Texas AM, and you know, you basically have. A bunch of normal humans out there with the actual athlete. And apparently, he ran them pretty hard. So yeah, that's been going on for a while. Okay. So it is par for the courts roster. Of course aunt Ross Ramsey on Twitter every Monday Wednesday, Friday on Texas Tribune dot org. Ross any other things we need to know about out here. Now, I think, you know, the this this slow start is nothing unusual for the legislature. They've got the budget's out. You know, there are going to be plenty of people, you know, during a quiet weekend. It's a long weekend here with the Martin Luther King holiday and everything and the slow start because the house hasn't named committees. Yet the Senate I'm told is on the verge of naming committees. But it's a regular slow start. But there are plenty of people up here who are digging into those house and Senate budget proposals and taking them apart. And that's really where the that's really where the work of the session is in that budget. It's the main policy document of the whole state government. What do you think you think kill Seliger holds onto higher education? I don't know. I'm fascinated by this. You know, the Senate has seller in in general, you're you're fascinating about Seliger. I'm fast. You know? I've I've known Seliger for a long time. He's a, you know, fascinating guy. I'm, but I'm fascinated by the situation and the politics of the Senate, Dan, Patrick doesn't have the margin and the solid and the the bigger Republican majority. He had a session ago. He's got a one vote majority, and it wouldn't pay. To make any of those Republican votes angry. So it's gonna be very interesting to watch. How waltzes through Republican committee Senate, right? Yeah. Right. I felt it's just gonna how does he how does he wall through this? And I I think that's going to be you know, that and the one open committee chair he's got which is health and human services after Charles Schwarzenegger's, you know, who's been involved in a sexting scandal said he didn't want to hold onto his chairmanship. So there's one open chairmanship, there's this new political situation. And there are a bunch of, you know, political nerds like you. And I out here waiting to see what Dan Patrick's gonna make of the Senate when he does his committee. He is Ross Ramsey. Ross Ramsey on Twitter chicken there. Like, I do it. Bring Monday, Wednesday and Friday, text few were always pleasure Ross. Thank you, buddy. It's always fine. We'll talk to you next week. All right partner again to get into a quick break in get in with our Thomas mood. Maybe a little annual the digital winning. A little bit for. Stick right with us on the other side. Today. And now we have with us in studio Thomas or Tom either way. Okay, I'm gonna call you Thomas out of deference. Thomas Mooney at underscore news, sling there on Twitter, we're gonna talk about some Texas country music. Glad to have you with us here, buddy. Thank you. Yeah. It's been a minute since I was over here. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember when it was about four or five months ago. People always give me compliments on their bumper music in always defer back to well till Thomas Mooney that you appreciate the bumper music here on the show how things been going. You're always fun when you travel what not really I mean disrupted here in west, Texas. I'm from fort Stockton. So I go back every once in a while go down to the big bend area. But that's mainly up here. Yeah. This about you follow a while the Texas musicians. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, I just do a lot of writing about music. That's coming out of the state Americana stuff some stuff out of Nashville, but always country. Yeah. Yeah. Like, Americana stuff. I mean roots music, just whatever, you're you're. I guess whatever. People think of of country, I know like. A lot of people think nationals who were will. But there's some stuff. That's good. That's coming out of there. So yeah. Just the Brian about. Music from the area and Texas till everybody where you do that from. Well, I have my own website called new slang glove ACC, which is kind of closer to just some stuff that I knew until have people can get to it Thomas. I mean, it's new slang Lubbock dot com. Okay. I've been writing some stuff over at Rolling Stone country dot com to some other places like that. I mean, you can find me find anything that I ride at on Twitter at underscore new slang. So we've got some music that we want you to take us through this stuff that you sent me and said, hey, you need to be listening to this. So I just want people to be prepared for the kind of. I don't want to say that you're the two old men in the Muppets who critiques who word in in every line. But you know, a lot about music and. Go it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I hope I'm not the tool been in the Muppets evil even the historian whether they wore moulder must look it up. Yeah. I hope I'm not that way either. But maybe like in thirty years, I can be that. Yeah. Angry old man that angry. Oh, man. So Thomas some stuff that we win again are into with you on is flatly and cavalry. Yeah. Flatland there originally from they started up here in Lubbock clutter, the lead singer, he he's from down in Midland. I think they've all kind of graduated from from tech now. So they're kind of locally or I guess centrally located in Fort Worth now just to make it easier on on touring. They have a new record out coming out this Friday called homeland, insecurity. Yeah. They're just kind of one of the the big buzz bands of the scene if you will. So we're going to go to their lead track on their new album, and it is come back down. Yeah. And i'm. Gonna play these in on what you to take listeners through what their ears ought to be perking up to as it distinguishes particular styles with particular artist's death. Sure. Us. Taste of what it is. Around you. This. Can get his. No. Brought you. Flatland the really kind of this is our second record right now you see their their pallet or sonic palette kind of building a little bit more expanding. I've always kind of compared them to a blend of Josh Abbott and a Aban that you play just a minute ago turnpike. They of have that sound it's especially fiddle and close Hong riding his very Evan Felker of turnpike. It's very similar, but they also have I think what they always kind of build themselves as easy on the years, heavy on the heart. So it's kind of that light pop land. I guess that you can see from Josh. So again this record out Friday. So it's my why was. Easy on the is heavy on the heart. Yeah. Yeah. That's. I like these guys already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I one too. Yeah. He's a he's done. I guess like they have to records and an EP and Scott various a local. Park stadium. Local record studio they've stayed local. That's one of those things. That's really interesting is that flatland is really a band. That's really blown up and yet they stayed local in a lot of their production. And like, I guess the the the business operations of the ban. You know, they've they've stayed Gokul and stated in a comfortable area. I guess okay. Cavalry making its play to new bumper music Daniel on the program. Yes, sir. I'll get that down. Okay. Plattling cavalry. We have our print. Thomas Mooney at underscore news slaying on Twitter in pseudo with us next one Charlie shafter, Charlie chapter. He's like a old Lubbock guy originally from Illinois. And yeah, this new record of his it comes out Friday as well. He's live. Over in round the DFW area. And this new record. I can't it's I'm blanking on who co-produce it. But I know one of the co producers was Josh Abbott, actually 'cause they're okay buddies. Yeah. Believe the song is over to you was lever wild. I liked Billy creek better. But it's okay. You wanna play Billy creek at school to let's play Billy cre-. Yeah. I thought that was you know, you run the afternoon radio program. Will people be jazzed about what's going on? I think that this had a good beat to it. Even though it's hot. I mean, this is kind of. Influenced by all the corruption. Arkansas acting as the eighties. Listen to this other. Kind of a little. Stamp here. Did write this Tom Cruise? Overtake. She'll off your. Made you sail. Sandra something care about. I was getting shape. To around here. Wants from West Virginia ones. Annoyed once little more. Guest Charlie style. Chris. Charts? Obviously, I'll weenie turns his name to snarly style. So I mean, if that is not a description for for that, Charlie. Pull three song. So. Charlie schefter. Things that pique your interest on him. Well, you know on this new record. And he's always kind of been this way. He's the way he describes things that are when I guess you losing were mind. Yeah. That's a new record titled. That's a mouthful of words. He's he's just always has an interesting perspective on header describe something that can just be casual or typical that everyone goes through. But he's coming at it at a different way, a lot of abstract kind of descriptions and stuff like that. That. I mean, I think it's one of those things where when you're remembering something sometimes you attach something that is just kind of an off description of the one on thinking right now is just the new season retrea detective he keeps on mentioned. It was Steve McQueen died that day, and it just something that attached to memory. And in a lot of ways Charlie's always attaching that just something that happened that that you just can't shake to member, you know, even though it may not be the most important thing. Charlie. So you were with him you've been with him. Yeah. Charlie. Like he said he lived here in love it for awhile. He's he's considered one of those Lubbock songwriters. Lou light, the blue light all that kind of. Okay. We have Thomas Mooney at underscore news sling. You take out his podcast. Yeah. The new slang podcast of I have not had a new episode in a minute. But now, I mean, I've had you been doing that. Oh, I don't know maybe eighteen months or so really. Yeah. There's a lot of people podcast and right now, it's a I'll have to check yours out, man. Yeah. Definitely do. So it's just like, you know, about one hour interviews with different artists coming through town. So I know 'cause I've tried to have you on the show before. And you're like, oh, I've got so in so studio like, well, that's a lot bigger name than me. Let's do one more. And then let's take a breaking back in this is coal country by Charles Wesley. Good one listeners queued up on this in then break down. That's nice. Yeah. He I really like this guy right years. He's from West Virginia tell that Appalachian Darcus as far as the the richness does a lot more stuff going on. Musically. Sonically the kind of. Reverence town sound dreams and welcomes fading VAR behind. Cool country. Entry west. I'm vos. Zone. Two. Didn't then now from federal. Lynn snoops newer zone. The album is Sinica Buddha. Spent low in the background which talk about he's got that either one or two things right there with a name like that. You're either a serial killer songwriter, the three three name Bill. Yeah. Again, like he's from West Virginia. I feel like he especially on this new record. This one comes out February fifteenth believe. You just you have that richness of like, the the West Virginia Appalachian salad. Of course. There's a difference in the fiddles between if you notice on this in the flatland stuff. The flat line stuff has more of that upbeat kind of kind of a way like closer to the western swing version of what you'd use your fiddle versus this, which is just a little bit more of that bluegrass Kenna sound Ultime. Yeah. This record like I said fifteenth, there's a lot more upbeat stuff on here. But he he does go into a lot more just storytelling about West Virginia. You know, the, I guess the some more social commentary in action. Yeah. That part of the world in this for the. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So I did my ancestry DNA in. That's like where my ancestors came from was from Appalachia down into Missouri in the end, Texas. Well. I've slept since then. But Troy stout. He he's from West Virginia who were talking about a minute ago. He's I came here. What book is read and whatnot? But they I guess like. I'm gonna mess this up, but essentially like West Virginia and west Texas are about as close as you can be as far as what the the people were like. Obviously once flatten ones Rocky Mountain, we're not necessarily rocky. But you know, I think that, you know, everybody everybody here did and ancestry. Dana whether or not they'll be enrolled in government records, I do not know give disclaimer. But I would find a lot of. A lot of our wristy in a lot of. A lot of the same DNA from Appalachian on here. Hey, let's kick a quick break here and get back in three more songs rake in with our friend. Thomas Mooney at new slaying. Checkout is podcast will be right back here on the other side of Texas. Have with us in studio. Thomas Mooney running through half a dozen songs here song number four, Jamie, Lynn Wilson. And this is death and life. This is like seriously probably top three song of my for you right now as far as like top three favorite song of last year because this was released last year. Yeah. So really really great record. Let's check it out. And then you break it down for. Crawl? Purse down by. She takes a look around wonders Cain be the bullet stare beside or spitting of. Of all the way this has it is too. She. It's been threes. She stilling stone. Be love but still feel. That's. In the. So chill muscle of about J. Liberals, jamie. She you may be familiar with the the band Tristesse. It's kind of like a super group of four female songwriters. She shoes in that band for a long time. They're technically not disbanded anything you don't play. But a couple of shows a year, they all kind of. Been more concentrated on their their solo stuff. This new record for jumping over rocks. It was released back in the fall. I believe Charlie Sexton is the one who produced a record who was a guitar. I still think he is guitar player for Bob Dylan, and he's gotten really into producing a whole lot of records. Now. Like he's producing the new Ryan Bingham record. That's coming out and February. But yeah, Jamie. She's a songwriter. She lives at. Whereas it better pronouncing this Danis to Hannah's Texas little small town outside to in San Antonio. Unlike you've Oudi anyways. Yes, she. This record right here. There's a song called Oklahoma stars as well that she co wrote with Evan filtered when the lot in turnpike. Yeah. Her version is really really great to you may throw that on for some bumper music. Yeah. Some point now, I just really love the way, Jamie. Write songs. She's a very kind of guy. Clark econo-, Phil. Nice. So good bowl there. Yeah. Great voice, really strong voice in. Yeah. Yeah. To your point. But. Try and make it last. We were store. Despite. Grabs can expect. And we saw. Probably mid thirties. She know that you're right for always. Arose. Don't you know, she's like a married woman of like four kids? I wasn't insane. Weighing anything, actually, you know, her husband. Here's a great little cameo for for you is in the music video for turnpike, troubadours Jin smokin lies. That's her husband who's like kind of the brooding cousin in that music. So. Next up canyon. Joshua Ray Walker by some of that. And we'll get into some critique with the Rolling Stones. Thomas mooney. Now, just going to say, yeah, he writes pretty. School for me because we wrote that south wing. We were on the newspaper. Stuck with the I was never made it. I've talked with Charlie going back teaching one of those classes as a guest speakers of time. Love that. Being. Not just in stature n- terms space. I'm about this. Drop. Spill a nice line. Is a big. Candy. This is first record. Josh Ray Walker. From around the Fort Worth area and. Yeah. He I don't know if there's like a an artist to acted see blowing up and getting some really big national recognition. I think it'd be it would be Walker over here. He could have like a I don't want to necessarily say like a Chris Stapleton type of is or anything. But you know, he could definitely be. An artist that you. May not be able to see in a year's time. Six months time without having some. Having to go to a bigger market. I guess this is a new record of his called wish you were here, which is out at the end of the month. January twenty fifth. I don't know. I just really liked the five of this record. And just as as you're up and comer. Yeah. I could definitely I know. There's like you can't really put odds on these like on what what the next unquote is. But I mean, I would I'd say he's he's got some potential really rise. So another female artists. Ashley McBride girl going nowhere. Yeah. This this record came out last year. And she's she's been around for a while. She's a up in Nashville. I can't I think she's originally from Arkansas. And I know she did a co ride with Garth Brooks recently. That's what's to be on his new record. Or maybe he covered a song. Simple like that. But yeah, I don't know. I just she's got like a a really what I'd kinda describe is just kind of like that heartland kind of. Rock sound an Esa people probably don't like him. But Eric church kinda has a little bit of the same vibe, some people. I mean, I know I think like churches there's nothing wrong with him. But okay, so girl go in nowhere, Ashley bride in also. When I whenever I checked out. What you sent me? I really liked a little bar and the linga. Yeah. I mean, that's a great song is in Georgia. Yeah. Is I googled it and looked it up. But here is girl going nowhere. Actually mcbride. Don't waste you. Guitar. Do you get? The. You can tell. Come on that roll your own. Spain. Wasting. Scum. He's bane where they said. Exactly. He. Look around. That game. Not bad. That's an interesting turn. I mean, this is like that. Goes down that classic kind of classic country. Trope of you know, being the the songwriter who everyone tells, you know, stop doing that. Because you know, it's not gonna be a great. You know, you're gonna fail basically. Right. I don't know. What's that Travis trip? Song gonna be somebody. You know, you kind of has. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Somebody someday. Yeah. Bad company. I guess that song shooting star. I mean, I don't know. It's just one of those classic music tropes of being told. Don't try don't you're gonna fail. And I mean, that's why the whole you know, girl going nowhere. Usually how many times have you met people who try to be musician in just kinda either give up because life catches up because you know, they're not that good over there. I don't know just other things get in the way. Well, tell us more about Calatayud be writing for Rolling Stone there. Thomas mooney. I dunno. It just kind of depends on what they want. And what they like that. I don't know my it's one of those things where you some much of journalism now, especially in the music. Journalists journalism stuff is it's all based on pitches. I mean, it's yeah. You know, you everything's freelance now, and it's kind of you just pitching a lot of different ideas to people, and if they pitch from mid America, I I don't know. I mean, there is better more interested. I I mean, I think it's helped that Lubbock music scene has been kind of important lately. So you can have boots on the ground. I'm not asking definitely help. If I was in Nashville or Austin or. See I would disagree because of this because everybody missed Trump like Vegas, miss Trump. Everybody miss Trump that Trump was gonna win because they didn't have an ear to the ground in middle America. Like, they didn't know that in Texas. He was gonna win by nine like would sad about. But then he was going to carry up into the upper midwest all the way up into Wisconsin. Right. So it seems like we're missing on all levels, not just politics, but music arts and sun RA. Like it surprising for me to hear you say. Maybe if I were in Nashville, or if I were an editor I would wanna hear somebody who has her ear to the ground in mid America right now because that's what's driving the country's policy effectively. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely part of it. But I would also say. You know, everything is built on relationships. Right. Yeah. And I mean, obviously with the internet Email. Social media in general. It's easier to connect with people. But also, I mean, sometimes it takes shaking the hands of the principle that you're working with or like that you're meeting that that actually kind of helps you get looking with certain places, I'm not trying to shine your boots. I'm just saying even if I didn't even if I didn't shook your hand, I would say there's stuff going on out there that we don't know about. So maybe we need to get to know about. It may be I'll go shake his hand. If even if he doesn't know who I yeah. But I mean, I think it's it's just when I say that is just because of like national is the the quote unquote, country music capital of the world for reason is because people go through there. So like now now, I would I think that it's important that I I did start out here because I did meet. Like, I said all these Lubbock songwriters as they were coming up. But if I operated in move to Nashville now, all those people are going through anyways at some point. And that's just part of. It's just a bigger hope. I guess. Yeah. Unless somebody on new who is it. Daniel the digital millennial better labor. Oh, yeah. Come up with better tagline. It's like the digital guru people are going to call me about their emails. 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There and down thirty five with one thought on my mind. Forget the race open space de that city. Well, eight Aaron Howdy thanks for tuning in. This addition of your other side at Texas. Jay, west Texas, Leeson glad to be along with you. You got some thoughts when the text into the program as we broadcast live from the racer car wash studios. Eight oh, six seven four five fifty eight hundred big show ahead of us. Chris level, red raiders sports. Gonna break down the university of Texas versus Texas Tech bleed the game kickoff six thirty Jones AT and T stadium on Saturday. Dress warmly, my friends and then kill cylinder. The state Senator Amarillo all the way down to Midland as found themselves with an none newfound power will just put it that way. Get into it here in just a moment. He'll join us coming. Up about half an hour from now racer car wash voted Lubbock best wash for five years running. Stop in one of five convenient locations across hub city. Four the best wash around guaranteed. That's at racer wash dot com. Last night. I was talking on the program just going through all the aftermath of choosy night. Of course, the Texas house has hundred and fifty members in there were twelve democratic gains in the house and four something to pass in the house. Like, oh, say new speaker? It's gotta have seventy six votes. Which means that. Now, the Democrats only need non Republicans to go along with them that changes the dynamic, but the dynamic was a little bit changed in the Senate when two of the most conservative quote unquote for me conservative. This important distinction isn't other side of Texas moment here. Conservative to me has a derivative of conserve. That's let's do some exegesis for just a moment. Conserve in so much of what I see in the reason people will say will lease is not a conservative. I'm not there kind the conservative that does anything, but a place I want a conservatism that not only embraces traditions in values. I want one that whenever I vote for it. I'm not voting against the economy, a my place that would be nice after all to maintain one's place for posterity. And we've jumped in. Too. Many Republicans have jumped in with a brand of conservatism that does anything, but conserves it comes at great cost, and I can go into that further. That's a monologue for another time. I think Brandon Darby's doing the show with me tomorrow. We can talk about that riff on a little bit. But two of the not when I call conservative, but lots of mass media calls conservative members of thirty one seat Senate lost making it harder. As Ross Ramsey said yesterday for the Lieutenant governor to get to nineteen boats there in the Senate kill Seliger has stood in. I think you'll hear him say here coming up, then he's gonna maintain where he was he's going to be a swing vote, and they aren't going to be able to stop them. It's gonna be interesting to hear kill solar coming up. So last night. I was talking about Kilger get off air in a c. The Dallas Morning News. Lauren Magai does a great job. Dallas Morning News puts up new piece in it's called democrat. The title is Democrats flipped to Texas Senate seats, creating key GOP swing vote in the process, and there's a picture of kill Seliger. Dateline? Austin? Democrats flipped to Texas Senate seats on Tuesdays victories. It may change the chambers tone and even shift its priorities. Policy priorities. Nathan Johnson became the first democrat to represent Dallas in thirty years. His Dallas district Beverly Powell developer and former school cook school trustee flipped windy Davis's old Tarrant county seat that was held by Connie Burton. They beat to the senate's most, quote unquote, conserved a members help on Donna Pons developer billionaire with families car dealership and Connie Burton, a tea party Republican under Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick's leadership Patrick again. I'm trying to talk about this one. Oh, one terms. Patrick is not a Senator. He was a state Senator. He's now the Lieutenant governor who presides over the Senate under Patrick's leadership the state Senate or Texas in it has moved further to the right issues, like sanctuary cities and bathroom Bill were priorities and Senate Democrats already in the minority saw their power further diminished. Bon often unyielding GOP supermajority, but after election day Democrats are now one vote away from breaking the Republican grip on the upper chamber their wins Tuesday night handed key. A key swing vote to the senate's more collaborative members. Republicans who have been willing to work with Democrats to buck Patrick on immigration policy. School vouchers and questions of local control Patrick called the election results big win while lamenting the defeats quote. We lost some great senators tonight, Connie Burton and Don huff on's, but we gained three new strong conservative. Senators Patrick said in a late election night statement, I'm anxious to get back to work for the people of Texas and on thankful and humbled by their support. Goes down in just get to the point. Right. Quick. Now. As a result of the election. Nineteen Republicans and twelve Democrats in the Texas Senate the numbers are significant because the Senate voted to change its rules in two thousand fifteen to require three fifths of the members which would be nineteen. But now just nineteen Republican members. It takes just one Republican to side with Democrats to kill Bill. So who might that maverick b? Texas politics watchers all point to one man kill Seliger that one man be up with us. But first we're getting to our man Chris level gonna talk some Texas Tech UT game coming up in. He's going to break it down force going to ask some basketball questions. Look like, we're worldbeaters again out there on the courts crispier stick right where you are about ninety seconds from now on your other size of. On the phone now as he is with us on Thursdays breaking down what's going to go down this weekend at Jones AT and T stadium is Chris level, red raiders sports doing Chris level? Well, I'm not I sure wish undo was going to go down on the Saturday night. I didn't know what the what was gonna go down last Saturday night. The that was crazy night. They're sure, you know, some of the the awful controversy is the empty stands. And here's my take. Then you tell me what you think, but the place emptied out pretty good about halftime level. It was the first, you know, always say, we're on the edge of the great Chihuahua desert and the great desert. I'm sorry, the desert and the Great Plains and right there on the cusp of that boy, it can get a little warm in the afternoon. And then in the nights, you'll regret it. If all you did was war jacket. I say a lot of jackets out there. I think that's what you tribute to the the stands kinda sparse out. Yeah. Possible. You know, I I don't I'm about bad personality about like the some of the goings on other than what's on the field during the game. I just focus on other stuff. And I know that people that go out into the parking lot and kind of enjoy themselves a little bit with with beverage three, you know, and that's just part of the deal. But it was really I will tell you that I will admit to not being as warm as I needed to be too. I will not make that mistake this weekend. Speaking of mistakes and games when Eappen we just attributed. Well Bowman last week. Well, I mean, I think that yeah. This is a case of I, you know, we're just going to wonder what if I mean, that's what I rating is that you play really good first half. And I think you come out hot, and you start fast and defenses making some place, and you know, you go into locker room with thirty one twenty eight. But then we know how it ended. And I think that the other. Tricky part is is that Bowen came out of that locker room thinking that he was gonna play and it just started warming up. And I think I was about ten feet away from him. It was just something wasn't right. And he knew it. And so that's what it alters everything. And I think it just took a while for Duffy and cliff to kind of figure out. Okay. How do we wanna do this? When you just not much time to even think about it or prepare for it. And and plus plus Oklahoma's really good. That's I don't know how good they are on defense. But but that offense of line and that quarterback or a nightmare. And you know, it was a matter of time kind of before they got going and that running game just kinda started leaning on a little bit. And and we know how it ended and you fought and all that. But it just wasn't quite enough to coda Alan, tell us Coney Island linebacker. Where's he right now? He he tried to play last week in played for I think part of or most of the first quarter. And then he he injured like a muscle on the behind his knee that they could not get get. Right. And so they just didn't feel like this was a bad match up. Try to put him in there. Trying to chase this quarterback faster than everybody on the field. And and I think that you know, maybe a liability don't want to get him to hurt it further. Don't you just just multiple reasons right there while you don't put him back in there? He also had a broken hand. He's got a broken hand. He entered injured at the tail end of that. I would stay game. Then you can play with that. It's just kind of clubbed up. I mean, you can't you can't use that hand much. But yeah, it was a need that kind of kept him out. I would not rule him out for Saturday. Just yet. But I mean, that's that's very touching go whether he'll be able to play the Saturday or not. And if not it's it's Jordan Brooks Rico. Jeffers which is what we saw most of the game on Saturday. Chris level, Ren, raiders sports. Go long follow along with him. Chris level on Twitter did not on election night. Probably jump into Texas did not go to the game because need to sit and watch the results not because I need to. But but because I want to and so it didn't go to the game. The boys went with grandmother and came home there nine in there really into the almost like whenever I told him sire Smith was leaving there. He can't leave. He's not graduated and I had to explain it to them. And anyway, but they came home, and they also are learning new terms and he's like the first play the game. They threw the ball up. And then this big Thomann. Don't it. They they're getting their first village Tariq that's gonna look like we were picked what number seven conference. Did you roll your eyes? When you saw that. No. I mean, I think people need to understand that this is. I mean, this'll be a grind for they're they're gonna play competitive basketball. But they've still got lots of things to try to figure out. This is a is going to be brutal league as it always is. And there's a lot of these teams that have a lot of pieces back, and you're you're just one of those that it's going to have to incorporate a lot of new pieces. It doesn't mean you'll finish them. But I understood it, I, you know, I think that you know, hopefully would get to a point where there's not even a thought that you would put tech in a in a preseason poll at anything past the fifth going forward, and you're getting really close to that. And I think as you start to build this thing. But yeah, this is gonna be you know, I mean, they have tough games. Jay from you know, you look at a week from this coming Monday and Tuesday, they'll be in Kansas City that Monday and Tuesday of thanksgiving week, and they'll have to very tough test there as you try to get all these pieces working together. But yeah. Rica is going to be fine Moonies gonna be fine. I just I guess what I'm openly saying is to Evans. It was really good. I mean, you're spent was really good, and it it's a testament, I'm not trying to tell you that this this group may not be as good. I I guess I'm trying to tell you how good that group was last year that that was special, and it's a it's a great league in. I mean capital great league whenever you have an lead eighteen that's ranked number seven the following year. That's that speaks to the power the league. Let's talk about Texas. What do you make Texas? How you think we're going to match up? Well, you know, I do say jet. Duffy is going to start this game. I think it'll be his game. And then, you know, defensively Texas struggle on the last couple of weeks. It's been interesting in that. I think that coming into the year. Everybody thought Texas would have one of the better defenses in the league. And they've got a defensive coordinator named Todd Orlando does a great job and all that. And they they've struggled in recent weeks gave up. You know, thirty eight points there at Oklahoma state. Instill watering lost that game that give up forty two points to West Virginia and Austin last week and lose that game and defensively. They're just not they're not making a lot of plays or not creating turnovers or anything like that. They'll come in here a bit banged up. You know, Texas Tech is not the only team dealing with that injury deal in Brooklyn Hager, probably their best defensive player may not play on Saturday. So, but you know, again, you're dealing with a quarterback that someone inexperience and trying to figure this thing out too. And so hopefully Duffy just because a he's could we could practice. Hopefully, do they have a good plan together have to execute. I'm anxious to see what it looks like with him with a full week of practice in start at home because the only other started these TCU, and at that time TC was very healthy on defense, and they were salty and fast, and and that was a bit of a different deal. So he'll have some chances. And then some etlinger the quarterback for Texas. He's starting to figure it out. So it's kind of role. Reversal that they were thought to kinda struggle on offense. And and be kind of this team that that didn't score a lot of points. And now they're scoring. He's throwing the ball. Well, it can run it. And so yeah, it it's but I expect a very close game. Now, I would be shocked if one of these teams able to run away from the other and they're both coming in with the with the two game losing streak. So both of them will be hungry. Yeah level. Here's what it seems to me in. I don't mean this critically. It's just an observation. Duffy's just not very accurate whenever he throws wondering if maybe. Maybe go back in you look at some nineties tape in figure out some zebbie lethridge offense for Duffy. Well, he I say jets problem is that I think that, you know, cliff talk about it. I'll talk with him about it. They're getting tonight, but cliff kinda talked about that and jet is aware of this that when when he talks it then runs he's very dynamic, and he can make some teams pay. We've seen him really, you know, punish teams with his legs. However, if you dial that up too much, and you lean on that aspect of what you're doing too much. Then then it's not it's not near as effective is not near as useful. And I think that he also is very robotic as he goes through his reads and things like that. When he's trying to throw it what he's got to do is. He's just gotta get a lot more comfortable entrust themselves. And is receivers I think he made some of those mistakes early through some interceptors. I think he's a little gun shy at times on on pulling the trigger because he doesn't wanna make a mistake. But he's got to get back to how he played high school, you know, and breed Lance, maybe just a little bit. But he can't always just panic, and like tuck it and say, okay, I'm gonna run these guys that are chasing after me because as we saw versus TCU, he's you know, there to to fast enough, let it at this level of ball. And you're not going to run these guys. Yeah. So maybe go back, look some zebbie film. But also man's Ville film. That's that may Mansfield. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause they're gonna throw it. I think that, you know, back when spike was here that there was not. There was no such thing as a short controlled passing game. And I think that when you would you have here is that they can they can create some throws that are easy for him to get him into rhythm. Just like what we saw with Alan at the beginning of the game last week you getting a rhythm. And then you get that defense cheating up. Then he started taking shots down the field. And you'll you'll be amazed at how you don't have to be as accurate at that point when they're cheating trying to play those runs or short control passes. And then then it should open up, but that that's an perfect world. But that that would be what cliff with would likely draw up. Do you think what Vegas? That Vegas has don't just two point dogs. Just two point dogs to a team that not long ago when Texas was in the top ten. Yeah. They have struggled of late. You think they attribute that number two Duffy being able to succeed against the Texas defense at this point. Well, I think that tech may even been a slight favorite had Doman been a quarterback. I think that the uncertainty of the core of the quarterback situation pushes tech into the being a bit of Texas excuse me into the bit of a favorite. But but I do think we're Vegas is right. Is that I think this'll be a thirty four thirty one eight thirty eight thirty four twenty seven twenty four type of game. I really think this'll be a very close grinded out game. And again, as I said, I just don't think either team will will be able to run away from the other that that would surprise me a great deal, and this is senior day for this to a bunch of guy twenty six of them. And you know, they don't. Wanna go out with out having won a big home game here this season? Yeah. So sixty two is the over under I'm over where are you? Yeah. I've maybe go slightly over. But I think you could probably I mentioned to you the scores of kinda think it'll it'll hover around. I just hate rooting for the under. So I'd probably go over to know K. 'cause if you're gonna if you're gonna go at me on it, then we were going to bet some Rudy's barbecue. No, I almost would never ever decide a principle that the under on anything just because, you know, the older time, you never know things that get away from the man always much more fun to sit root for points scored in they they can't get away from you Jones stadium for sure speaking of Rudy's barbecue, Chris levels skies coaching show, right after the show you can jump over ninety seven point three he'll be there with cliff kings. Mary I'm about to have kill silver on state Senator out of Morello. And I think I'll be interested to see. How he respond to some questions? You're probably had some good questions for cliff. I watched cliff, and I think maybe he does have a political future the way that handle some of these questions. Well, yeah. Coaches are very smart. They some and sometimes of the year, they those little more open than others. But yeah, you you're careful with what information you release, you know, it can be used against you not just in the media. But if you say something wrong, the other team uses it, or you know, and sometimes you're talking to the media, and you're you're really maybe talking to one of your own players or something, you know, by what you say or don't say. So there's always kinds of messages and reasons why coaches handle the media the way that they do and one more thing. I'd got this question earlier. How many how many UT fans you think will travel? How many UT fans you think we'll see in Jones stadium this weekend. They'll be some. I'm sure that there's some that live here in town. But yeah, those certainly be some that show for this kind of party five. Yeah. I would say this probably maybe a little little high. But that that's possible on something like that. Yeah. I, you know, this, you know, Texas, Oklahoma and schools like that they've got they've got a large fan base. It'll be a segment that certainly here. Yeah. Go by kademi and get you some gear. Shots fired. Yeah. You're welcome. Hey, when I'm in the middle of when she does checkout read where your sports my hands called handle right at Leeson TT, you we can hang out there. Chris level is always. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate you. We'll we'll talk to you again. All right. All right. Have a good even Chris level. Their son off on the this this episode at least into basketball team. I'm getting pretty fired up about an Abernethy guy. We were never good at football whenever I was younger. So I love me some basketball red raiders, hey, we're gonna get into quick break. Great must listen to radio here coming up with the kill seller and just stay locked in. It's gonna be something worth listening to. There's is not not a bigger MAG maverick in the legislature, at least one that's willington gauge it like a happy warrior. That he is killed Seliger coming right up here on the other side, still take a quick break. Make Lou money beat. Be right back. Lead have those guys on program couplet texts to get into in? Yeah. No, my kids did not Kelly asking my kids did not go the game. I think I brought may brought it up mentioned enough time would went and spent an LPN L Bill at the stadium clothing. Shop had my kids gone to the game. And they were dressed like I was I was freezing. But stayed until the end stayed till we sing school sewn fight song in in win onto one of the only traffic jams are in Lubbock. And that's it. Big high profile, Texas Tech games Gill sell. They're going to join us here in just a bit. You know, track down something that I'm going to write about of mentioned to you. That a lot of the Republicans right now who loss on Tuesday night, more following Greg Abbott, governor abbots campaigns models and Mon you're standing. Is that on Friday morning that have you seen the Hitler video that people go in? They write the Hitler movie where he's freaking out a bunch of Republican consultants get together who are working in against Democrats in general campaigns. And they have this big Powell and begin to look through the numbers in there finding that they're off ten points. That Abbott was supposed to be up ten. He's coming in. I'm sorry supposed to be up twenty. He's coming in lower Bob, ten points. And in that's beginning to have some impact down ballot. And. Well, what's been described to me is shouting match emerges. How that conference call in? They began to find the beginnings of what we would all learn on Tuesday night that that there were bad numbers out there. There were bad assumptions out there in a lot of fingers being pointed at the governor. I'm not saying this to take a dig at the governor. I'm telling you, we're all wondering what happened blue way purple wave a blip something that I kinda give credence to the idea that. I don't want to say to blip. But I'm saying it's probably not is democratic as you might have thought because a bunch of votes were put in. Bunch of political campaigning effort in some of these people have it down to a science was was off by five to ten points. Somebody who's not been off. He his primary in a landslide. I'm kidding. Like a quarter point against two opponents. He is kill Celera out of Amarillo somebody we enjoy on this program. Uncle kale? So how you doing? I'm good. How are you today? Let's start this off with a couple of questions not about you. But in Bombay, okay. Let's say that there is and there's not I don't think, but let's say that there's a Christmas exchange in the Senate of which you're a member thirty one members. And also Dan Patrick to make it even gets thrown into the exchange, and you have to spend twenty dollars or less, then you draw Patrick's name, what do you get Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick for Christmas. I sent him boxes Suzy self forty chocolates made in it Midland. They're just absolutely fabulous in quality and one of Texas. Great, entrepreneurs and. And that's it gang. So you would just send them a gift from from Midland there. Yeah. From the district. Okay. Well, that was that's pretty good that you job there. Kill SOGA thought about you something better out of on that chairs. Here's here's the prevailing. Knowledge chairs in the Senate come in chairs in lots of places, but I mean, all sorts of state legislatures in federal level two chairs can come with conditions. The prevailing knowledge in in Texas is that chairs in the Senate comb as favors that will be repaid. Are you seeking a chair in the Senate? Yeah. But I'm thinking that you're that. I hold now. Which is that if I rich -cation community colleges and universities. Okay. Because there are murmurs out there that that you will make it known that you won't be under anybody's thumb this legislature. No, I think I've performed such whether I've never been under anybody some but open to anybody if they wanna talk issues in policies, I've been chairman. I was I a chairman I think in the redistricting session of of two thousand eleven and neither David do horse. Do hurston Dan Patrick ever made a made any conditions thinks that I had to do if I was going to be chairman. Then mean that they're always pleased with things I did. But there have never been preconditions. Yeah. Okay. So Cal solar. Let's talk about the talk of Texas right now twelve democratic gains in the house that would only be rivaled by two thousand ten when there were what twenty one gains by Republicans in the house, and that I guess you could refer to it now is the bomb reaction or the tea party year there. In in two swamped in the house, but twelve gains in the house, and then you head Republican gain earlier in special election down San Antonio. And then across far west, Texas. But to Democrats win last night Larma galley, we opened the show reading some of her piece in Dallas Morning News that you are you've been a maverick. But now, you're a well position maverick if things are going to get to nineteen on the Republican side cylinder has to be on board. Do you think an attendant think I know what you're going to say? But you count yourself now is the most influential Senator in those chambers. No, no, I've not sought to be the most influential person that chambers. I wanna be affective representing my district. And and you sort of use every tool that you have to do that. And and but it really doesn't change my focus as a member of the legislature king. So you just think things remain the same. But you wouldn't ordinarily the dynamic is is different. Jay's is done amick that shifted in your favor. Well, yeah. But I'm not sure what that means. When it shifted my favor. Let's let's put it this way. The legitimate government had thirty priorities in the last legislature. I voted for twenty eight of them on the other two. If I if I am going to be a swing vote would I have been been a deciding because they both pass, regardless of the fact that that I pose them would that be different this time possibly. Okay. Again for listeners just joining kill SOGA Amarillo and down one county like a barbell down one county long, the New Mexico law and takes in huge swath of the Permian basin Midland Odessa here with us. Now. What does what do you think you just mentioned the Lieutenant governor's thirty priorities last session? What do you think kill Seliger are some of the Lieutenant governor soon to be priorities for legislature? That begins January that he will not have Republican support for in the chamber. There were there were to Republicans who voted against the voucher Bill that Lewis, very large. It doesn't loom as large as the participation of educators in this last election, and what education's are liable to be able to influence in the next two years. Because third of the Senate has got a run for two years when it comes ten how do you think before we get into the second part? How do you think educators influence the last election by going to vote for whom? Well, this in this part of the state they voted for me. Okay. All right. I think they had a lot to do with the two elections in the Metroplex that were lost a lot of teachers down there. They are finally getting mobilized and instead of complaining about what comes out Austin, they've decided to be active or proactive about. And I think they've made a big difference. And they should the other thing is is local officials county judges and and city city council members and mayors who are talking to people about who are the advocates for local control and smaller government legislature. I think that that had a lot to do with with those two votes in the Metroplex people who are valid opponents of local control and in local schools, and I think it made a big difference. I think it did in this area. I think it made a big difference in my primary. Kill soga. Let me let me go into that a little bit further here. It seems like you're saying right now, they you're a hard. No on bow Shire's in eighty sixth that year, a hard no on tax caps in overreaches on local control going into eighty six when we talk about I voted for an education savings account in what point which is not really about. Because it's not money that comes from the foundation school program, but the voucher Bill that we saw last time was taking money out of public schools going with students with no accountability. Yeah. I'm no. You know, what do you? And let's talk about let's talk about revenue camps for local control, the people of the city of Lubbock can have their tax rates cut in half. All they have to do is find out who the people are who are going to cut them in half vote for them. Both the current city council out of office, but the people in Lubbock and Amarillo in Midland had been voting for for incumbents who have not. Been cutting taxes in half to expect legislature to do we as local voters could do. I just don't think. That's I don't think that's reasonable big government edits worst. Yeah. Inversion there. Of course, he's referring to tax caps, which give local governments for them to go beyond the certain amount, monitor standing the Governor Arne has a sponsor a democrat, no less in the house to put up a Bill for two point five percent cap to get voter approval. I before you go beyond that two point five percent. That's a trick though. That's because I believe that they want people to think that the four percent that passed the Senate last time is really a bonus. And so that's it's designed to do that to two percent doesn't keep up with inflation. We don't let we don't let the federal government cap. What we? Can raise is is sales taxes go up or cap what we can raise with with with severance tax or things like that. And if they did what how would they help crowd? The oman. Gosh, it would be it would be a terrible outcry justified this because of of of the claims of big government. That's what this is big government. I'm opposed to big government in. Here's my thing with the whole the whole tax cap thing. It's what the other side will say is let locals decide in kill. You of anybody in the state right now knows what happens whenever quote, unquote, locals decide. Lots about side money, lots of generated campaigns. Lots of not locals will locals ultimately decide what with a hell of a lot outside influence, right? Oh, sure. That's exactly. That's the point Shackelford county or anywhere else. That's exactly what would happen to good example of a county if they were to try and give their county employs a three percent raise. And they needed to buy a new row greater something two and a half percent. I don't think they could raise enough money to do it. They would have to take it to the voters talk to listeners. And let's talk about the rural counties for just a moment. Because we talk about these issues in such a way that it's organic whenever the urban counties talk about at ten this isn't a knock, but it sounds like astroturf is like something chamber commerce wrote up. But in the in the rural counties, there's a real concern about bankruptcy. If you know if these caps are put on because they're commodity driven counties. Explain to listeners what a commodity driven county. How it could that cat could hurt them? Because it's so volatile the income from year to year. We'll it it's luxury, and it certainly agriculture. Counties that doesn't really all that much money and their their ability. Raise money is very limited. In this case. I would use Palmer county is is a good example, if the people in Parma county want to cut their taxes, they can go and and very few signatures on a petition. They can have a charter election a county. Lock Palmer or Shackelford. They can limit their taxes to two percent or one percent or never have an increase at all property taxes. We can do all that locally to take the attitude that we really don't want to go to the polls or be active in our communities. We'll just have the legislature. Do it. I don't think is. I don't think it's a good way to do it. And I said as former local fischel who had to run for office every two years. Make no mistake every election is attacks election, and if you re elect your incumbents, you were voting for the taxes that they. Impose the ones that they change or they don't change. I used to think that before region gate their Texas Tech. I think that you were my favorite former Amrullah mayor. Then I'm at Gerry hutch. Let's talk about something that Hodges concerned about for just a bit. And I wanna bring in what our you is new found influence newfound leverage four kill cylinder. Oh, lots of people know that inside those chambers. Amongst the members out on the floor. And there's a lot of horse trading. That goes on get you this horse. You get me my horse, and we'll split even or will make up down the road. There are more horses in your stable now kill Seliger de intend to leverage some of that for the vet school. Hell high is let me ask you the better way. Hell what priority? One two three four five through ten where does the vet school fall that Texas Tech vet school fall on your priority list? I would say in the middle of that range. Okay. Why just the middle? Well, because first and foremost is is the budget overall and public education we need to start on on road to having a new public education system. We need to do something about Robin Hood. You're talking about school finance? Yes. In in higher education. There's another couple of issues overall funding, and what we call the higher education fund, which is a big priority for me. But that is a fun that does for. For what the what the permanent Versi funds does protect say. An and university of Texas he fund higher education fund does that for Texas Tech and in midwestern state and in even Austin and so the divest school. I think is a priority. And I intend to go about that from day one because the budget is going to be a Senate Bill Senator Perry, and I are going to push the the the veterinary school is best that we can. And and hopefully get help from from. Our colleagues around the state question coming in asking me why I'm saying that you have newfound position. I don't know if they just started listening or not, but you have been a maverick vote already and given Tuesday nights returns puts you in even greater position to be the maker break on whether or not you need nineteen to get to the floor. If Seliger says, no, and they can't fund democrat to replace them. Then it doesn't get to the floor just within the mid range then on that school that you're going to look out for higher educations hole in public education before then. I would say so. Yeah. But keep in mind, this is at Texas question too. Because for for the remaining money's tech. It always say that they're going to take some of their money, some more of their money and tech his mates commitments to and Jackson more money in it. I would prefer that from the existing funding model that tech director funds to program, and and and things like that. And that that we address this is is what we call exceptional extra item. There's a couple of different ways to get where we need to go. Okay. So for folks who in Sar, we're taking a little bit long here. But right now, we're in budget season heading into the legislature. You got the legislative budget board meeting. There's there's already a lot of discussion going on with what goes where for a budget. That'll be voted on within the session. The only constitutional priority of session is to get that that balanced budget there. How much money is going in for the vet school initially? I think right at the moment, it's seventeen eighteen million dollars is is a believe what I'm prepared to to go to cinema. One course I'll discuss that with Senator Perry, and that's for operations correct construction on these there. I don't know exactly what that's going for. I think they may be to kick off program or things like that. I just I I don't know exactly where it's how it's been earmarked, and what do you make? I don't know if you've been in this position. But well, I think you have with Smith -i John Smith, the Moreau a lot of people saying that the two leading names four in. You know, we were broadcasting from where we're broadcasting two leading names, drew Darby and for price to men who I would think you're very close with but price out of Amarillo. Do you get involved in that process to you? Go tried to pick off votes for four price not a bit. You not a base. That's the house is business, and I'm not much concerned with what they think of Senate rules and procedures, and I don't think it'd be much concerned. With what I think the thing about four price from a real low and drew Darby from from San Angelo is there from west Texas. And and they are two guys that that are dedicated to this part of the state. It's not that they want anything for west Texas that that we wanna take from anyone else in the state of Texas just wanna make sure that those of us in west Texas, don't get left out both in terms of of budget and policy because when it comes to things like transportation, there's an awful lot of people Dawson that gladly and easily Lee that was Texas in favor of the I thirty five quarter. Yeah. Then answer that you just gave about not being concerned about the houses affairs. Sounds almost like a state rep saying I'm not in charge of potholes there in the city as as pretty good their kill. I've been a mayor. I really didn't care what my Representative thought about bottles Amer. And that was my job. All right. What else kill? Gimme gimme such. All. I you know, I read the article in in the Dallas Morning News. And I thought it was pretty well written. It just talks about the pure numbers though. It doesn't talk about motivation in in motives in and things like that. And I there's nothing I really like I say, I really not sought any kind of power like that. I just want the ability for represent my district in west, Texas. Did you being the face of independence in the chambers right now? You saw the returns you saw the state wants coming back at it. You saw to your super-conservative peers go down you saw the statewide come back at six percent statewide, not needn't, Greg Abbott or Glenn Hager. Right. Even the presiding officer chamber right there at six percent does that put a little more a little more gusto that give you a little more gusto. Whenever people get down on you and say, yeah. Well in and also, I would be remiss not to cite a hope still have it the. I mean Jason be Elba. Former house member said if you invested a dollar an empowered Texans your stocks now were twenty two cents given the money that they put into races across the state you'd have to feel like you ride on long today. Kill seliger. I think I was right. Jason. Alba is is was a really smart Latino Republican it power Texans. Worked really hard to get him beaten far right by the name of Lisa be Ryan. And she managed to lose a good Republican seat to a democrat. Where were we help their? Let's look at something here. And I'm I'm sure you've thought it is that if you look at the them votes that Greg Abbott got as opposed to ten governor, Patrick, I think when I went to bed tonight. It was about two hundred thousand people. There's not a lot of crossover and things like that. So it makes it look like a couple of hundred thousand probably Republicans voted for Greg Abbott. And yet did not vote for Republican Lieutenant governor why? You know, you can look at all the reasons, and maybe I think maybe that's local control in public education too. But here's the question. Jay, and we going to have some smart people, and he uses good pollsters, or they rationalizing it or saying, wait a minute. What are we doing to to lose Republicans, most of whom are conservative, but for Greg habits and not me what does that mean? And so we'll have a chance to discuss it more than likely you and him. We'll have a chance to discuss we meet as in a caucus all the Republicans Lieutenant governor. And and it's a it's a pretty wide changing. And sounds like you're on vacation. There is that those results would lead to change behavior. And you don't know if there will be changed behavior. Maybe just some rationalism rationalizing about what had happened. That's potential. I would always warn against that. No matter who you are. And and you when you look at where I win. What does it mean? I mean, where's the message in in clearly in my case that because I've been represented is something listed a conservative by empower Texans. It was easy to find people to to run against me. Not very not very good ones. Not very convincing. Ones was Patrick. Do. You feel like you're running against an Patrick in your primary. No, very intensely. Not. Because when I spoke with him early on he said, he wasn't going to get involved in my rice. And there's no evidence in any way, shape or form that he did, you know in private conversation. Did he tell somebody that he might want bitterly alphabet, real maybe? But there's no evidence that happened. And nobody told me any differently. Two point two five million spent and empower Texans return was only four hundred ninety six thousand in winning races Gill Seliger, I'm gonna let you go. Appreciate let me point out that those guys like Tim done the middle and have so much money. Jay that does not matter. The only thing that matters winning. It's just play money. Yeah. Well, we got some good Altro music. Say good bad and ugly, free Shaked. Thanks for having me on again. Okay. The kid out. He'll still walking into the Senate chambers. What's up guys? That's good stuff. Hey, we're going to get out and get into a break in then come back in and breakdown tomorrow show to be Goodwin. Stick right with us here on the other side. Yeah. Texan had the happy warrior and some questioning whether or not on time to get into mall because we're going to close out here some questioning the tax caps. Let Amarillo decide some of those coming in preach guys listening in Amarillo. But there's no doubt about that. I think. I think that kill seller is really good it underplaying his hand. And. For a guy. He had probably the toughest primary in Texas, and he had two guys going against them one out of Midland and then one out of Morello both at here. It's to the same groups of the same outside interest groups and is still walked away barely walked away in that primary. And now a lot of Amarillo wins a lot of people cross the golden spread a place. It's never been told. No, it's always stood up for itself. I mean, I'll tell the story often. In nineteen sixty four like emerald was cool before republicanism was cool in nineteen sixty four. There were sixteen counties in Texas that went for Barry Goldwater. Eight of them were spread throughout the state. Eight more were all in the panhandle. And they have a story history of republicanism. But also of not knee-jerk ING into a as I said earlier a conservatism that doesn't conserve their place. And that's why I'm fascinated with Amarillo folks, that's a storied history. Hey, listen, I'm going to get home. I believe Brandon Darby the on with this tomorrow trying to snag a good interview in there, maybe snag Arrington. Seeing what we can do congressman Errington talk about working in the minority in the way forward there in Washington, but intil, then I'm gonna get home got to get home. Great family, above average, dinner and math homework. Which I've come to love. It's gonna be great soon. Be awesome till tomorrow Ravon buddies Ravon. It got any news any tips. You want us to cover anything you want to look into Jay at other side at Texas dot com. We'll see next time right here. A M five eighty in other side at Texas.
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I'm in my Ted Mitchell chancellor, Dr Chit Ted Mitchell. The apparel of gun on the white collar shirt red and black striped tie don't have on the lab coat with my health sciences center emblem on it. But I do have an amazing amazing flattop going, which makes me think I need to put these earphones behind me. So I can keep my my custom-made Ted Mitchell three inch flattop in tact. As we roll along lots to get into with Ross Ramsey coming up. We're gonna talk about the latest polling numbers. If your interest is piqued in these elections in plenty of you already are some polling numbers on what the latest round of the university of Texas, Texas Tribune polls have found and if you've got questions of interest air go in. Shoot shoot those to us as well. And then as I said, Brandon pedagogue we're going to make room for a lot of good content. Stay right where he are. We're gonna take a quick profitable break here on the most talked about afternoon radio show in west Texas. Stay right where we are about ninety seconds right back here on the other side. I've gotten a lot of texts from you guys since Monday whenever I came on the air. We went into some inside baseball about the next speaker of the house and Dennis Bon Bon and out of Angleton was put up by. By meeting a meeting that many members of the Texas house have found surprising, a meeting that could usurp the process a hundred and fifty members they vote majority of the vote goes to the next speaker of the house, but some some fantastic pictures. You guys effort did really well, and I appreciate this as we've covered region gate, lots of pictures of Bonnin Dennis Bonnin who I like. But listen, we're in no mood for all out. Aggie gear in these pictures. I have our pictures. You guys have sent me of of Bonnin in on the sideline hanging out at am games. Full blown AM gear. And I just I I don't think that west Texans have an appetite for that's not the picture wax. I'll just say this way. That's not the picture. West Texans have in mind. When they consider their next speaker of the house in maybe some west Texans. But by and large that's not what we have in mind after watching region gate, which may or may not be done. But. To see because the political consequence is that the next speaker controls what happens with it has a large say in what happens with the vet school where it moves where it goes and his appointments do as well two different committees. Somebody knows a lot about that. Texas house is our friend. Ross Ramsey every Wednesday here on other side of Texas helped me calm down a little bit who needs cholesterol meds. When you've got Ross Ramsey. How you doing buddy? Might be hurrying rain. You know, the kids in Austin, they're down hard time tonight on Halloween. Yeah. It's it's raining. A lot more down that way than I think we're just supposed to have some thundered this evening, but we've already had Brinkley, right? Sprinkling right now, if I was a trick or crater, I'd be you know. Cautiously optimistic. But it's like forty degrees in the winds blowing from the north here too. So good luck to those. I'm sure that we'll have to make it up to them. Ross. Lots of new polling of already send it up university of Texas in tex- Tribune and run polling numbers. What stuck out to you? What's the lead? Is you look through those numbers? The top line that everybody looked at. I was what's going on in the Senate race? We have it at six points. We'd have the governor's race at nineteen point. So we continue to have that interesting thing where it looks like if those numbers all hold some voters are voting for that's a working in turning around and buddy for Greg Abbott. Which is you know, sort of I think of is the return of the swing voter in Texas. If that's actually what turns out to be the case when we look at the final numbers on Tuesday, the other thing that was really interesting or a couple of things that really interesting that the the flip in those two races was independent voters. Independent voters in Texas typically vote for Republicans in state wide elections in the Senate race, they are leaning towards the democrat. That's a work. Republican voters are strongly with cruise democratic voters with a work the difference between the Senate race. And the governor's race really is those independent voters. Another thing that stuck out. Sir. Let me just interrupt for a second. What percentage independence are going to a road? You know? I don't have it in front of me. I believe it was fifty six fifty seven percent. Okay. All right. So you know, they were they were a majority was on his side. The other thing is that Republican women have come home. You know, there was some Norway's in those numbers. There's a lot of conversation about what's the bourbon Republican women were gonna do a lot of this came around the time that female voters in the Republican party were uncomfortable with the family separations at the Texas Mexico border. You know, worried enough about that and concerning enough to the president that immediately rescinded his euro tolerance policy with an executive order. The women have come home. They are Republican women are in the Republican ranks, you know, on everything from the Senate race to the governor's race to even meet to issues that we asked about ole. So I thought that was interesting. Wow. So. What makes what accounts for them coming home? Was there a strategic attempt by the Republican party at Texas or or national at consultants to get? I think most of this is driven by national politics, and the national politics conversation has changed considerably over the summer. We did a poll in June. We did all in October. And in between, you know, at the time, we did the June poll, the family separations issue was rampant. That was the thing in the headlines. It was getting a lot of attention from the political last from congress from the president. In the meantime, we've had the conversation about Brett Cavanaugh, and you know, that nomination and confirmation, and you know, the conversations that went around about that and Republican women in Texas sided with the Republican party and the president on the cabin on the nation. And I think that may be one of the big that maybe the big impetus the brought them home. They are solidly in the Republican camp now. Yeah. Ross Ramsey executive editor of the Texas Tribune with us. It's two thousand fourteen all over again whenever it comes to immigration and border security seems like. Yeah. We've got a new, you know, set of issues that raise that as the what voters are talking about. You know, we talk about you know, when you asked me about owning in the summer, and what things how things are going into one of my standard lines as you'd have to wait and see what people are talking about when they're actually voting in the things that are actually talking about. Now like, you say or in some ways the things they were talking about in twenty fourteen the second about this caravan talking about these federal troops coming in they're talking about. Now, we're talking about. Children born in the United States, and whether those are automatically citizens. That's clearly guiding voters. It's also, you know, it's worth noting while you're talking about those things in the news and listening to the president and so forth. That when sexist voters are asked what their main concerns are. What of the biggest problems facing the state the talk to remain immigration in order security, and it's stronger with other converters Democrats. So it clearly drives those. So I have to ask the federal troops coming in. I just brought up two thousand fourteen when about two thousand fifteen is there any Jade helm, cinnamon out there about the federal troops coming into the border. Not really they're not here yet. And you know, right now, it's just a prospect. And it's, you know, it's a, you know, there's still conversation to be had about whether there's actually a threat. And once what those troops can do when they get here. You know, the last time we sent national guard troops to the border because of posse coma tandis laws. You can't use the army to enforce the law, unless you're you know, in a martial law position. And we've never been in that. So basically, they come down and all they can do is sit in thanks and half tracks and whatnot and call the police if they see anything or call the border patrol. They don't have the power to act. So there's a question about what these trips are going to be doing what they're deployed to do where they're going to stay how much in the cost of a lot of questions about that posse. Komen Todd that sounds like a Diddy from Lion King Broadway show. When is it did I just say that correctly? Posse comitatus. It's a posse. Comitatus Lana that basically is the one that says you can't use the military to enforce laws that ought to be enforced by police. Okay. Just as simple guy from hill county buddy wanted to clarify there. So. For people who are political doors. Let's talk about what happened you, and I've talked off line in I asked Ross a lot of questions about what's this? What that not not so far is political opinion. But just he's been doing this for better part of forty years now and asked him about an open speakers race in Ross you said just watch for watch for things that you would never expected in seems to be the case on Sunday night. There's a meeting in Dennis bonding comes way with thirty or so thirty or forty supporters. Yeah, they're unnamed. So, you know, the first thing I'll tell you is the speaker's race. If you're not looking at signatures. You're not looking real number. There was a moment. This is a true story. There was a moment in nineteen ninety two ninety three race between Pete Laney, and Jim Rudd where I got a peek at their chalkboards in the names that were on their truck boards, and they added up to more than one hundred and fifty members in the house. There's a little bit of liars a little bit of liar's poker going on here. But that said, you know, the bond faction claiming somewhere between thirty and forty votes, as you said, they haven't done the names, yet, some of the people whose names were reported to be on those lists scurried away when their names were mentioned. So, you know, it's soft, but what's really important is that it sort of seventy six instead, they don't have they don't have a win here yet. They just got a significant movement, and you begin to see in a in a situation like this. Whether if I jump up and say, I have thirty votes does that attract those or does that make everybody run in the other direction in right now, it's not through that. They've got more than the thirty votes that they said they had on Sunday. Try to give everybody a get untrained. We're leaving. You know, it has to move. It's been I've had lawmakers call it clan. Don, this was a clandestine meeting any context, and what that might mean. It means that the people call and claim desk night didn't know it was going on. I mean, you know, there's going to be a lot of private conversations. They're going to be a lot of conversations where people try to make a move, and you know, don't wanna alert all of their potential rivals. I don't wanna say enemies because most of these guys actually are friends, but they're rivals there. You know, they want different candidates here. They don't want to necessarily flag their rivals that they're trying to put something together. So there's going to be a lot of, you know, quote, unquote, clandestine movement is going to be a lot of secret conversations a lot of you know, I think they're going to if it's like every other speakers race. It'll be a lot of double budges people. Make it a promise to you know, one candidate and also to another one that's the nature of these races. Ross one is I think one of my this decisions ever was to get you on the show on Wednesdays because elections happen on Tuesdays. So we get you right after the election on like after the presidential election in just to be able to sit down hash it out with you Ross. But what is your habit on election night? Like, you sit decent down in your recliner at the house or are you at a bar or what what's your route? And I mean, I'm in the newsroom, there's a bunch of people scurrying around, you know, we have people assigned the this. And that and you watch this and I'll watch that. And you know, we'll run them through this editor. And you know, it's everybody's it's all hands on deck. And you know, there's no better place to be on election night that newsroom, so. What's that configuration? Look like though like you've got fifty TB setup or what what's. Several different the budget TV's type, you know, everybody has two or three screens open. They're watching, you know, everything from the Texas secretary of state site. There's some counties that you know, they report faster on their own websites than they do to the state. So if you really want to see what's going on in bear county, and San Antonio, you keep a window on your computer, open to bear counties elections tonight. Everybody's checking all kinds of things when you get a partial result. You try to call up a map of you know, parcel result on Connie Burton's seat in Tarrant county. Call up a map of Fort Worth and see which part of town is reporting. Whether it's the Republican town of the Democratic Party town, you know, everybody's watching all of those kinds of details. So you can figure out what's really going on. Why not why not have like on Facebook live like you're the Tim russert of Texas politics just break in to us with your dry race board. That's when I vote for. You know, you have to know something to start drawing on a board, and that's the that's what's interesting about election night is that you're spending so much time. Taking in information. That, you know, most of what you would be watching on Facebook live as the top of somebody said staring airing a computer screen, and every once in a while they would look up and say, hey, something new and Fort Worth instead of that instead of born you with top of my head, which is, you know, only partially covered with air, we tweet input on our website. But on our Facebook page, every new thing is we find it. Yeah. Put it on the on the page there. Texas, Byun dot O R G, raw she got one more big column coming up before. Well, you got to. When did you next to combs about leaning into election day? Well, I'll tell you Mondays column we'll be the last hot list sort of the last list of the races that are really close. And and you know, my twenty five races that I'm really watching closely on election night and the Friday column, you know, way things are going and might be on the speakers. Right. So I'm still that's still up in the air. You know, speakers speaker storing before election day, but I think that was when one of the things that's interesting about the election is that we're electing the people who are going to turn around and elect the speaker of the house and one of the things, you know, whether you're watching this bond and movement or you're watching what's going on with four prize or withdrew Darby or with you know, any of these other candidates Travis party, you name, it is what kind of candidates are getting elected or they're going to be more Democrats. How does that tilt the field? How does that affect the house part of the problem with the? Thing, you know, before an election or a week before an election that you've got the votes or you've got some kind of move to make on a speaker's race is that the composition of the house can change and change in a way that some of the people who say there with you might reconsider after the election, some of the people who might tell you. Tell you privately that there with you might not want to be outed for that until they get elected on Tuesday. So a lot contains in the next week from speaker faces a lot in the current configuration for listeners one hundred and fifty house members ninety five Republicans fifty five currently and that will probably change on Tuesday. I think it good bit that it will change on Tuesday. Ross Ramsey anything else. I've left out here. No. I mean, there's just a lot going on. This is you know, for political borders. This is this is Christmastime gang every Monday Wednesday and Friday guys go check him out. He's at Ross Ramsey on Twitter as always Ross Ramsey. Thanks for jumping on with us here on the side, Texas. Everybody was hockey after the election. All right. We're going to get into it. Get into the break think. Ross was listening live. Maybe there, I'm I'm flattered. Ross ramsey. Actually, I'm doing I'm doing a panel. I've been asked to go sit on a panel. In in January for the urban counties in they're gonna fly me down there and put me up in the embassy or wherever in in. It's me and two other panelists and I said, well who who are the other two in they said Harvey Crom. Berg who owns a corn report dot com and Ross Ramsey of the of the Texas Tribune to which I paused awkwardly, and you guys couldn't find somebody else. We're gonna get into a break in come trying to find Brandon petty go to be with us here on the program, you're going to enjoy this guy. I mean, once these elections are over and people start looking at local elections, you'll sing more more about Brandon pedagogy, no way endorsing just think it's a great story. And it'll be a store you need to hear right here about ninety seconds from now other of Texas. Hey, welcome back in to the other side that Texas appreciate get into some texts here in just a moment. Gonna get our print Hayden petty grow petty go excuse me on the phone here. In just a moment. I wanna know what your kiddos are going to hell Wenas. Give me some ideas. I got to diagnose I've got Zelda not not link, but Zelda, you know, time out I had the other day. No, I didn't mention it on area. Taking the kids at school. We have the best conversations on the way to school. And we had a little Sam piped off out of nowhere on the way to school. They're just now coming online and beginning to understand things. They understand the NFL. We do math. You know? The Cowboys are up by how many what's nineteen mine is seven you know, that sort of thing. And and they really like Bo Jackson, and they like they like to watch old film. They love techmo bowl. But they've been playing this game Zelda breath of the walled. And they love it. It's really cool. I mean, they get to play on the weekends. That's what the leasing kids do in. So they're playing on the weekends. And we have. I'm went and downloaded the other. We've been playing that non stop. And I went and downloaded the original Zelda. For them to play in guys. It lasted like six minutes. Just six minutes. That's all it lasted in back to the point taking the kids at school Sam pops off and he says this dad how awesome was it. When you were a little boy, and Michael Jordan was still alive in. That was some humility maybe that he doesn't understand that. Once you stop performing, you die or maybe that just speaks to how old I am somebody who's not very old is Hayden Pedic. Go glad to have them on the program. Get into a little bit of your background here in just moment. But Hayden thanks for coming on had. Thanks for inviting me grew up in Amarillo. In in Manila held are you now aiding I'm twenty four. Okay. Just twenty four are. You're fudging those numbers at all. No, I'm I'm twenty four years old. Okay. Well. Let's send it up here. Hayden. You were in. I'm looking at an article dated March two thousand seventeen in Texas monthly and it starts like this in two thousand fifteen Michael hall wrote in Texas monthly that quote, twenty year old Hayden Pentago is making the most innovative audacious music in the country in two thousand fifteen and then. And then Michael hall asks the evitable question. So why is he still in Amarillo? Hayden pedagogy. We talk a lot on this program about the importance of place in seeing politics through your place in not in body into what's now, just such an eccentric. And makes my head work. My head hurt national picture, but just to stay focused on how your place works. What makes it turn? And what can you do to make it better? What policy can enough on that intriguing that you're asked as as a you've got your own spot at south by southwest this year right yet? Yeah. So more than accomplishing your music. We're in trying to take a listen to that here a little bit. But ask him why you're still there wasn't you answer that question while you're still in your place. The reason I'm stolen in Amarillo. What date here's Amarillo is a really interesting intriguing place. I've lived here my whole life. But every every year they knew about it. And I think Amarillo is. Unique. I think it's beautiful, but it's also kind of a tough place to crack and parties, and I'm staying here. I n able to create and write music and make albums and still live in Amarillo deal to do it. I think the internet has helped change that a bit where you can Email a record label than the mere music, and they can put it out you don't necessarily have to travel anymore. And I think it's important for people to stay in their home towns as artists 'cause you're helping to, cultivate, your hometown. I got tired of people treating Amarillo steppingstone thinking just pitstop onto the final destination. You're trying to get to or with your hopes and dreams goal all of that. And I think a lot of the things can be accomplished here. But I think Amarillo needs to listen to gender population. Because it's important that they stay here. And don't all move to Austin Nashville in Portland. More dallas. Yes, any any bigger city that they think has more potential, you know, Hayden Pentago? Of Kentucky all day long about how accomplished you are. But as a musician. Let's let folks listen to a little bit of greetings from Amarillo. And then when she I can I can go through NPR articles all stuff that we've lined up for this interview. But I want you to describe your music, and your style is we listen to this clip here. And just instrument. Yeah. Nothing. Okay. Hey, we're just gonna if with your permission. We're just gonna leave that in the background while we talk. Yeah. For sure have the artist permission there you do. So this album has greetings from Royal. What is described as ten instrumental and ambient tracks vibrate intimately ring out expansively in resounding justify his staying put their in emerald. Oh, what do we hear about the pain handle in this music in the background? I think there's something about the panhandle. Feels that. I think there's a certain type of MP almost Dante. But I think that some what what makes you think it makes you feel small the winds always moving. There's like a kind of restlessness to that never sleeps always moving into some way does oppose like a big city that never stops the people. I think Amrullah never stopped moving in the sense of a wins always going, and it's just it's just large. Watt almost feels like it goes on forever. I think that's what I try to buy music. To me, it's peaceful. But it's also restless and I wanted to feel bath. Because that's the landscape. I grew up with an umbrella. I love kind of out the country here, and it just felt fast to me. I thought like I was on the island. Is Hayden pedagogue with us whenever I say pedagogy might hear me saying petty go, but it's P E D G. If you wanna go check him out lots of intriguing angles to get into here. I will say this about Amarillo. I really appreciate emerald. Oh, I you know, I wasn't raised in Lubbock. I was raised a little bit north Lubbock. And then spend a lot of time in plain view sometime way up in the panhandle. But doing a show about Texas politics in all the tap into Texas Tech with Bob Duncan in the potential vet school in Amarillo and a lot of political fallout between this is what I've learned. I've always known this. But finally articulated it that people from Amarillo these guys name Rollo their wealthier they're smarter in their crazier is then a fair assessment. I would say somewhat I thought too far off. So Hayden Pentago. You've got all this are you working on a new album? Now. I mean, what's going on the music front? The new record finish. I I haven't erected best coming out on the same label, drip triplets recording coming out this January two thousand nineteen. It's it's already finished. I'm sorry. Don, wait, ready to go. So so now, you have plenty of time on your hands in which wins to the next part of the conversation. Here is somebody who's well respected within music circles in Texas has all sorts of opportunity, you're capitalizing on that with an album Hayden. But you've decided to me it is. When did you first start putting out these campaigns because your race wouldn't be until until may of? So what's the thought how long ago, did you decide you're going to run in four context? Let me say this listeners, it's not like Lubbock or a lot of other communities or cities. It's they're all at large positions in. So you've got your option of which race that you want to jump into. But how long ago did you decide that you're going to run and in what's? How long ago in why let's start I'm so century August of this year, so three months ago because we put up the first video I believe August six of this year, which it it's kind of funny to put out an emerald city council campaign video pretty much half a year away from win that vote watch we happen, which that was part of it. I think there's a bit of humor in in showing up early. But also the type of weird visibility. You're your citrate campaigning in a ghost town start that early. But I think that's why people kind of took notice to it was I think they were like why is this guy running for city council, and that's not even till next spring. I think I think that's kind of where it started. And especially with the fact that the videos were kind of absurd in themselves that was already a part of the picture. I guess I cannot play when I look through them Hayden. I cannot play when you're well. First of all, I don't wanna play when you're ads on air because invariably I would have to play your opponents add on that's one thing. But the other it wouldn't make good radio. They are so visually driven in a lot of sound effects. And you wouldn't be able to understand wouldn't be coherent on the radio. But I ask you what's the method behind the the quote unquote madness with why why run for city council? Well, I guess my big platform. My big angle that I've had like said again, I've noticed a lot of friends a lot of people my age moving away from an Morello. It's kind of like a high number of people my age leaving. And I started to notice Amarillo is a great city grown city, but his Amarillo really listening to people under thirty and wondering what kind of they want because I think it's integral the have younger people in your city because I think that's a part of development. I think it helps for city grow and be more relevant and be I guess be on the edge of what's going on. But I feel like Amarillo really was geared towards that. Because amer- Louis kind of an older city, and it kind of listened to the forty and up audience. And I I'm saying, well, maybe listen to what the people under thirty because there's a lot of really creative. Interesting people here that a younger that I think are valuable to the city and should stay here. And I think should be kept here in Tampa reason be here, I found my reason to be Ambra lo and he others find area. But I think there could be something on the part of the city. You don't say what do these people think what kind of Amarillo do they want because we know what the people forty and up one and amyloid, but whether the people thirty under one Amarillo, and I think I could be helpful in that. Because I am. Artistically musically driven. I've chosen to stay here in emerald because a genuinely love it. And I think I can create what I wanna create here in half the lead. So Hayden listen that and we talk about Texas politics a lot on this program in. Whenever we have a new census numbers were going to have a big fight about redistricting coming up, and we're going to lose a couple of house seats this side of thirty five in the Texas house. We're going to probably lose a Senator as well. So that messaging resonates with me that it's some of that is youth flight away from this part of Texas. But why not just say I like again, I'm not critiquing your videos intrigued at the messaging is it just implied to you. The U Hayden Pentago have the opportunity to go live in Austin tomorrow in to be we'll compensated for it. But you've chosen stay in Austin. Why not lead with that? In your messaging. Well, I I definitely think I have. I definitely think I've angled at that way. I think I think people understand that I am somewhat established as a musician, and there are opportunities everywhere. But to the I see more opportunity here than I do anywhere else. I see the positive opportunity, I think that that's my angle partially behind this. And I think even refer back to the campaign videos themselves. I think people could critique say my campaign videos are vague and don't try to. They don't say what the message is. And they're hard to understand. Okay. But part of that for me, I think. I think all of us my burnt out on politics. And I think it's redefining the meaning of a campaign had I think it's changing the rules. Okay. So one campaign ad that you had is you crawling on the ground. Hugh, measuring things I'm gonna let you describe it. But it's been picked up. I think read it picked it up. It's been picked up by a lot of national publications in once you to describe it on this format of radio for people that have not seen it. So that you can describe it yourself. But before you do that can you stick with us over the break yet? No, k Hayden pedagogue right here on the other side of Texas Tech right with us more coming up few minute and a half from now. On the line with us steel is Aiden pedagogy so Hayden these these campaign and have really taken off there's one that folks can go look up you to end. You're crawling on the ground. You're measuring things talk is through the beginning in into that ad. And maybe folks are listen on the podcast compelled up. Let's give them just a moment. Bob, four three to one. Describe for people what's happening in this ad, and what the method is to the at. Okay. So essentially in the first campaign video we did I wore an old kind of seventy style wolf suit. I'm outside at a park when we shot it was about one hundred four degrees. So it was pretty hot. So in the video is teachers need never in random things. Almost sensical things. I throw a metal chair. I one point I'm laying on the ground measuring to sidewalk kind of an end of Sirte way. Then when you reach into the video with me and field walking towards the camera. I set the folding chair down put my foot on it. And I say my name is heading hate him to go. I'm running for city council here. Morello I believe out a lot of local small business owners that there straight up to bond and then video ends ball. Oh, bunked Bonk with a K. Right. And that that's the video end so century the first video that'll traction because the video is very surrealist kind of tongue in cheek as a bit of humor. But also it's vague on exactly what the camping out his four. I had a lot of people ask me what the measurement? What the measuring men people asking? If there was secret double meetings fan videos, but essentially what I pulled everyone is not gonna act like smarter than I am not really secret hidden meeting behind the video, I think it's just humorous to take the concept of a campaign ad, which I think generally campaign added somebody's saying how their opponent will ruin your life, and what terrible things they will. Do. I think if you stripped out away you start to redefine what a campaign at is. Because I think people have a bad mouth people hearing campaign ad I think everyone's kind of politically exhausted. So I wanted to approach politics from a different angle. And I think being a bit. More vague has started more conversations for me 'cause I've had a lot of people in Amarillo. I've never met before come up me. And they say, hey, hey, I saw your speech helpful campaign at what's that about? And we end up talking about him Rollo for thirty minutes. So I think something vague can be a tool to get an important conversation. Started about Amarillo that isn't a vague conversation and is rooted in deep issues and things that are going on here. So yes, the videos are vague and somewhat of third, but they are a tool to start an important discussion. At least I believe, you know, Hayden tell me, I know I believe that your elections. There are nonpartisan on the city council level you care to delineate where you come from politically. I mean, I kind of again, I think it's based more on what the videos are. I I'm more of just kind of not specifically party based because I kind of sick of party based politics, and I do. You believe but something as city council like you said, it's not party base aren't issues like heavy party issues. I think they're city issues that affect everyone. And I think they're more generalized every demographic because this affects all of us are some city level. I don't think it has to be party based at all. You know? So that's probably what I would say. We're that. We're that. We're set up twenty cly. Yeah. Here's every everybody from Merola have on the show. I bass kill sillier this question on others. This question the burning question for a lot of us who live outside of Morello is what should the name of the new Monir league baseball team be and more. Specifically, do you support Saad poodles? I mean, honestly at this point with what's been giving. I've noticed that emroe resume especially younger voluntee- kind of adapted to poodles. I think just because they realize how third it is. And I think at this point, I think it's kind of like, whatever, let's do the goofiest thing possible. So at this point, I think it's probably THAAD coudl just 'cause I think everyone's just embraced it on for some reason. And I think. It's just where it's at right now, you know, Monir league teams are notorious for having absurd names. I mean, it's just I if you go when you just look I'm just thinking about some of the. Let me I'd have to effort on that in my small for just a moment. But there are a lot of really random names to minor league teams in you know, I've made this point. Thank you. Daniel just sending this than aren't the Lehigh valley. Aren't pigs the Wichita wing nuts. The orem. That's not weird AL's El El Paso, chihuahuas the Modesto nuts the tin cap. The Fort Wayne. Tin caps. Yeah. I think that you can make a case for making so far as marketings concerned go for the wildest thing. Yeah. I hope you pick out. It's not like we're saying let's name. What's name west, Texas, AM rename west, Texas, AM, the sod poodles? We're talking about a minor league baseball team. Yeah. Yeah. Got you on record supporting the sod poodles. Hayden pammy. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's too big of a deal something else that would impact the local economy and emerald let's draw out to state politics. But it certainly important where you are tell us what if any thoughts you have on the vet school there, the Texas Tech vet school there. I think that'd be great. I mean, I think that brings more innovation in opportunities to Morello, you know, because I think people can argue about a baseball stadium of America that whether we need it or whether or not because because it is entertainment based I think there's more room to are you? But I think it's something is progressive innovation on schooling or job opportunities or any type of training or any type of trade or any skill. I think yes, I support it. Well, I hope that we have Yonne. We'll bit more Hayden. Is it, you know? I will tell you this. Oh your opponent sometime. Whoever have you will have well, you declared have you son paperwork yet? No. I can't sign until January. That's my officially starts January. Okay. So I'll have to check in with whether or not I'm obligated to have your opponent on not that. I would have a problem having your opponent on just I I have a lot of candidates on the show who reach out to me in this case, given giving your resume we reached out to you. And I certainly appreciate you taking time. Hayden Pentago again. It's P D G O. You can go to apple wherever you buy your music or go to YouTube. You can see his videos that a lot of people are talking about listen to some good music as well. Hayden. We appreciate your time. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. All right. Hayden benigo in Joe. Oh, man. Appreciate men. That was some good stuff there. Appreciate him. Megan time, I'm gonna make some time tonight jump off with the little bit early because I've got two inflatable dinosaurs of gut. I can't remember what Charlie's wearing my four year old and a grace in its cold mom needs some help. So I'm going to bail with you now 'cause I got a great family in. Above average, candy. But wait till they go to bed and see the damage. I do just wait and see when I do there tomorrow on the program. We are going to have Mike Stevens the high plains pollster talk about some local in regional races. And what the turnout numbers mean, he tracks this all very closely. We'll have him on and also our friend Chris level, red raiders sports talk about the big game this weekend. Finally, finally a night game Jones stadium Chris level be with us tomorrow about fifteen minutes into the the program episode. However, you're listening in then he'll be followed by Mike, Steven. So until next time my friends, you know, what I like to say Ravon buddies Ravon see next on the other side.
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