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Trump's Feud with Joe Biden & Controversy Over the U.S. Women's World Cup Triumph | Tessa Thompson

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

26:29 min | 1 year ago

Trump's Feud with Joe Biden & Controversy Over the U.S. Women's World Cup Triumph | Tessa Thompson

"You're listening to comedy central. Drew twelve two thousand nine hundred. From comedy central's world news headquarters in New York. This is the daily show with Trevor Noah. Here's the. Body for too. Thank you. Our guest tonight. I would guess tonight stars in the new movie men in black international Tessa Thompson. His yeah. Everybody. Also, tonight's show Biden and Trump go head to head. You can now Yuba in the sky and the US women's soccer team is under fire for being too good. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's kick it off with some international news. You may remember last year. French president, Emmanuel Macron and President Trump. What besties they attended events together? They shed secret handshakes and Macron, even gave Trump a friendship tree as a symbol of how their friendship would grow and prosper for many years to come. Well, you're later relationship has soured and get this the tree died. But Macron being French refuses to give up on love. President Trump is set to receive a new friendship tree from French president Emmanuel Macron, grown promise to send the new oak tree after the tree, he gave him during last year state visit died. He says the death of the tree does not symbolize, the topsy turvy relationship between the two countries. Grown, you said that she was a metaphor. So then it's a metaphor. Yeah. You can't now say the tree was just a tree. That's not how symbols work. Okay. It's like in grade school, when you and your best friend, get friendship, bracelets, and then ten years later, he's not wearing it because he got married. And he's wife, thinks it's weird. Yeah. You know, what's weird Kevin? You deserting your best friend. And yet is a little sad that the friendship tree died, but at the same time it did last longer than most people do in Trump's White House. So that's impressive. Yeah. That this time Macron's gonna give Trump better at instructions on how to keep the tree alive. He's going to be like, okay, these time, Donald, you must use water. Not dad coke. Okay. And reassess the tending bed is not enough right terms. Like I was so good that tree, it ain't exactly what I three cheeseburgers day. Don't know if you don't look after the tree, and for it, it will die. Like that's what they said about Eric, but it didn't work still here. Also, why is Macron's giving Trump another tree? You know, it's just going to die again. He should give Trump something, simple, something easy to take care of like a friendship rock. Knowing Trump, I wouldn't be shocked if he found a way to kill that too. Yeah. Just come on. Like, I don't know what happened I came outside, and there was just dust dust in other news as the debate over abortion rights, rages on in America things have gotten a little testy on Capitol Hill. It is tiring to hear from so many sex starved, males on this floor talk about a woman's right to choose Mr Speaker, I would just like to ask my friend, if she'd like to change her last her last statement, if it pleases, my collie on the other side, I will withdraw my statement about sex starved, males on the floor. God. All right. That was gangsta very. Because those guys are so mad. But they don't know what to do, Mr Speaker. Let the record show that I smash smash. I actually feel bad for those guys because it's a trap, right? You don't know what to do if you don't get mad. It looks like she's telling the truth about your sex life. But if you get mad at looks like she hit a sore spot. Like what do you do? Well, it would be funny, if this whole thing ended up with Republican congressman testifying about how much sex they have. I'm just waiting for Mitch McConnell to come out on C span, like real talk Prem are BUSTER not in the morning. Good merger. I must have not our tonight. True marlboro. And finally, in tech news, the future of ride sharing has arrived is taking its ride sharing service to new highs. With Uber air on Tuesday, the company unveiled its first electric passenger aircraft prototype, helicopter plane hybrid, that can take off and land from pad and flying hundred fifty miles per hour. Wow. Was taking it to the next level, and you know, what this makes sense because whenever I'm in an Uber driver swimming around through traffic yelling of the cause while he's talking on his phone. I'm always thinking men. I wish we could do this ten thousand feet in the sky. I also don't see how flying 'cause will work with Uber pool of the drivers is going to be like this is your stop. I guess, on the bright side, Uber air will have a much simpler rating system. Right. It's either five stars or you're dead. That's it. But you know what? But you know what I shouldn't hate on them, because it's actually already been really successful. In fact, his video of Yuba picking up their very first at customer. That looks like fun. All right. That's the headlines let's move on to our top story. Donald trump. This has been a wild week for the Trump presidency making it the one hundred twenty fourth wild presidency week in a row started a few days ago when Trump averts the crisis of his own making by deciding not to impose tariffs on Mexico because he said he made a deal. However, critics points out that many of the things that Mexico promised to do to stop illegal immigration with the same promises that they had made months before, but then Trump came back saying that he had a secret deal with Mexico, which no one believed. So yesterday, he did this agreement with Mexico to become a safe third country asylum. That agreement that everybody says that don't have. So no because I'm gonna let Mexico do the announcement at the right time from Mexico. They wanna go through. But here's the agreement is very simple agreement. Okay. Okay. There are two possibilities here. And neither of them are good. Either the president just whipped out of takeout menu and claimed as a secret agreement with Mexico, which could be all it's a real agreement and the president is just walking around with secret documents in his pocket. The same guy who was worried about Hillary server getting hacked by Russians. Meanwhile he could get hacked by gust of wind. Even worse a pigeon. Because here it is the secret document that stop that. Stop that bad yet, it's headed to the Kremlin. Keeping important documents in your jacket pocket is so risky, because everyone forgets things in that pocket. We've all done it, like one day, Trump's drycleaners going to phone, the White House, like, hey, Mr. Trump, you left the nuclear codes in your jacket again. And the lollipop in there to, like, oh, God. My lollipop. So that was President Trump showing off his secret agreement. Let's that he got from Mexico, and I guess, yesterday was mailed day because a few minutes later in the press conference he was telling us about another letter. He was even more proud of to the first time since the fan Hanoi summit came on sent the president a letter yesterday. Mr. Trump downplaying concerns about Kim's recent missile tests. He's kept his word. There's no nuclear testing. There's no large, you know, long range missiles going up. So I see that and I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong UN, and I think the relationship is very well, but I wish aided the letter someday, you'll see what was in that letter someday, you'll be reading about maybe one hundred years from, now, maybe in two weeks who knows. But it was a very nice letter. It was very warm. Very nice letter. I appreciate it. What? Maybe one hundred years from now, maybe two weeks. The only other time you hear a time range that big when you order couch online. It's like, yeah, I guess be arriving now or never. But that's pretty incredible. Right. Trump is willing to support Kim Jong own because the North Korean dictator sends him. Sweet notes Kim's smarts. He would launch a missile at the United States, and then just sent Trump. Let exact same time to keep him distracted an aid would run into Mr. Trump. Kim Jong UN has just fired fired off of beautiful Leonard Jimmy. I know it's gorgeous. No, sir. This could devastate devastate Malania. We won't tell her don't know, people are dying dying to know what's, but I can't tell them it's a sacred, it's between me and gut Cam, you got that from the gremlins out fast. So don't Trump has become good friends with Mexico, and he's BFF with little Kim. But there's one feud, the president is not willing to end and it's with America's greatest enemy sleepy Joe. I heard fighting who's the loser. I've been lucky. Joe never got more than one percent, except Obama took them off the trashy for now it looks like he's failing he looks different than he used to he acts different that he used to. He's even slower than it used to be. I'd rather run against I think Biden than anybody. I think he's the weakest mentally. I like running against people that are weak mentally. I think Joe is the weakest up here. Really? Donald, you want to compete with the mentally weak loser will then maybe you should hold a debate with a mirror. Now, it's no coincidence, that Trump is going off to the phone EP ever. Since the polls came out, showing Biden, beating Trump all over the country. Trump is aimed all of his attacks that wreck at number one threat, and Joe Biden is loving, because it sets him up as the presumptive nominee, which is why yesterday in Iowa he delivered a forty minute speech that was all about Trump. I think the president really gets the guest basics. He takes the tariffs are being paid by China, just like Mexico's Bill. He thinks windmills caused cancer. I think I'm making this up. I know. Quote, I have complete power. No. You don't Donald Trump or only I can fix it fix yourself. I down Trump. Okay. That was weird. I feel like Joe Biden turned black by the end of that speech, only I can fix no fix yourself. Mike pence. You've gotta come. Get your man. We'll be right back. Hey, listeners, you probably have something you want to improve about yourself. Right. Maybe it's something petty or embarrassing, that's where personal best from CBC podcast comes in. It's a show about celebrating small ambitions, half wins and the quiet satisfaction of getting less bad at things votes are calls it a delightful romp through self-improvement and time magazine says it's one of the funniest podcast to hit our ear buds in years, you can find personal best at CBC dot CA slash personal best or wherever you get the daily years edition. In the past few years. There's been a lot of talk about America losing its standing in the world. Economically diplomatically, grammatically. But yesterday, the US showed there's at least one place, they can still kick ass. It was a day of record setting domination on the world stage for the US women as the women's World Cup kicks off in France. The US women's soccer team is showing no mercy and making history. The defending champions posting the tournaments largest margin of victory ever shutting out Thailand, thirteen to nothing. Wow. That's not a suck a score. America basically one by a touchdown. A field goal in three points. Combined would dominating so hot. This was the goalie during the game and it's crazy. Because if you've got sucker in the world. This is madness Americans were like this is how soccer shed. I do feel a little bad, though. Right. Because this is the worst thing ever happened to tie soccer team. And yes, I'm including the one that got stuck in the cave. Yeah. Because at least the cave wasn't celebrating in front of them. You've got stuck in. So this was a historic win for the US women's soccer team. But some people say it might have been little too much winning. A lot of controversy are how the women of TV say celebrated over that record breaking win over Thailand. Critics say the team showed poor sportsmanship by continuing to score. Then celebrate some calling team USA behavior embarrassing overboard and disrespectful that target that they already had on their back as defending champions that just got a whole lot bigger. They have now painted themselves as villains and as bullets okay? I get what people are saying they saying that the US beat this team so hard. They should have been more sensitive celebrating every single goal. I mean at the same time, sometimes taking Pissy can be worse than celebrating patronizing like imagine you're in a rap battle, and you losing. And then the other like an another thing. Wait, wait. Are you? Okay. Totally crushed. You would that line about your mama. Hey, I can talk if you need it. So the big question is, has this tarnished the reputation of US women's Sokha, from on, this would joined by someone who's embarrassed America, many times while overseas? Does he lied to everybody? People are saying the US women's soccer team was unsportsmanlike. Do you agree now, now they were not being unsportsmanlike? Trevor they were being American are slow. Again is America. Yeah. America. Oh, sorry. We one hundred that one at war two hundred years ago, and we're still shooting off buyer works to rub it in Britain's phase. So you're saying it's not our against. That's just how merica roles xactly how we roll on the battlefield. It's how we roll in the soccer field is how we roll it or daughters piano recital. Totally one, by the way. Does he I don't think you can win a piano recital. Now, you do if all the other parents cars, get their tire. Slashed and Secondly orchestra night becomes Tiffany night. I love you sweet. You made Beethoven your bitch. Okay, you're a good mom. I guess does he but, but don't you feel even little bad for Thailand's team? Thailand. This has nothing to do with them are women weren't playing against Highland. They were playing against the patriarchy. That's what this game was really about Las check the patriarchy wasn't made up of thirteen women. I'm talking about this Twenty-eight players are suing their employer. The US soccer federation, alleging institutionalized gender discrimination, according to their lawsuit. The women's team are in just thirty eight percent of a male player for the same kind of work, the women scored more goals in one match than the men's team has scored every World Cup appearance since two thousand six combined. The women's soccer team has doing so much more and getting paid so much less than the men's team. It's like finding out that, Tony stark got paid less than Hawkeye. One of the superhero, the others dad who's into archery. Yesterday was about the women's team trying to prove their worth. They weren't just playing to win a game. They were playing win a lawsuit. And yeah. You know, it sucks that Thailand had to get caught in the crossfire. But it's like I said to the parents, my kids music school. It's not personal and I'll pay for your tires. So, so you're saying the women's team was just sending a message to US Sokha. Yes. And clearly that message that they need to be paid more. Oh, I don't know. Maybe US soccer should pay the men less. Maybe they then be motivated actually qualify for their World Cup. A lot of cover one over my back. I guess tonight is an actor who stars in the new movie men in black international. Please welcome Tessa Thompson. Welcome back to the show. Hey, thanks for having me, again, and congratulations on yet another blockbuster franchise men in black international this, like you in every big movie right now. You're in a vengeance. You're in Seoul, you're in men in black. At at some point, you just like go to a cinema and just be like all the posters. That's me. Now. Never never know. But I I'm my flight here. There were three of my films, and that, that, that was like a moment from what is life, the plane at the same time? Yeah. Yeah. You see, I would be going to every row in the plane and who's watching it makes them watch it, my most hang, my most favorite thing is watching. Okay. This is what I love to do is watching someone decide what movie to watch and not decide to watch yours or like put it on. And then turn it off after ten minutes. Oh, I would come back the guy, the guy costs he made it through Cree too, which is nice rights, but he did. He was like he was like on his phone, and he was picking his nails at one point. That board. And it was during some of my aides, I felt some kind of way about it. But okay. I feel that you should you should surprise people like in when, when that's happening just pop. Hey, look at me. Because that would blow their minds. They were just like they think it's a thing, you'd never forget tests, Thompson if that happened to you on the plane, I probably should my friend recently, it was in Washington square park, and a guy walked past him in a sorry to bother you t shirt, which is a film that I made, and he was like, hey, I like your t-shirt and we happen face timing. So I was like let me see the guy and we FaceTime with him and that changed his life forever becoming the turtle you, Michael, he goes to NYU Foale. There you go. Look, Michael NYU now. He's famous as well. Mike. Let's talk about the new movie. I mean men in black is a franchise that people know and love. And now men in black is international, even though they were intergalactic. Yeah. But the story has changed now. It's about all of because before it was just like this is what's happening in New York. Now, it's like no, the aliens everywhere, a global scope. You've only ever seen the New York part of men in black. And now you get to see men in black in London. And then we travel the world face, and you get to act across from Chris Hemsworth again, you guys make it formidable. Ju on screen, thanks. Yeah. No, we've seen you in their vengeance like this comedy moments moments where it's like, oh, these two kicking ass together. And now you're back together. Do you just like no each backs affront now? Yeah. Now we do honestly. I don't know. I said it like that. Weird way to say no. Just because, you know, like you spend a lot of time with someone you see them first thing in the morning. You see them late at night. You see them, when they're angry like you'd get to really know somebody at this point know, the first one around you're trying to make a good impression. And now we're so comfortable that you, you're just stopped doing that. Those Chris, get angry deeply, but so do I. So it's good because I was gonna say that makes me feel good about his buddy. He gets jealous. And now I'm just going to be like, hi. You hang Gry. None of that. It's because he does intermittent fasting. So he, he doesn't eat until noon. Wow. I know I pretend to do it sometimes with him. I'm like, oh, yeah I'm so longer. And I. I've had like avocado toast smoothly. What I love about kids, what I love about you into actions on screen, not just with Chris, but the characters that you play. And I mean, you know in men in black, it feels like that, again, even in the scene that we watched it feels like you take characters that previously could have just been archetypes, and you've molded them into being dare I say, compete human beings, not just the gopher and not just the side, kick, not just the nagging woman, but it's like no a human being who feels and says, and does everything and actually moves the plot Ford is that something you do intentionally, or is that just the roles that come to you? I think I, I think I tried to 'cause who wants to be the nagging woman right? That's no fun. I also I don't know for me. It's I've never. I never thought that I would make movies and certainly big Hollywood movies like all of those archetypes, like the hot girl. Yes. Or like I never felt like I could see myself in any of those archetype. So I wouldn't stand a chance in. In my own perspective of making it in this business to fit squarely in any of those boxes. So, and I've been really lucky it's not just me. I get to work with collaborators like Ryan Kugler, who wants me to be more than than just, you know. Yeah. Than than an archetype for. I just just someone who's in the background. It's disgusting. But so much in Hollywood women are just ciphers. You know, we, we move the plot forward, and I'm really heartened, that I've stuck around long enough time where we audiences are demanding more than that. And Hollywood is, I think finally listening it's, it's coming. When you look at Hollywood, as a whole and you see a postal like that. I remember time when internationally you wouldn't see a Posta with the black lead on the post, like I've seen posters all over the world with, like be in South Africa in America, and then they would have like the black actor on it, and then you travel somewhere else, and you'd be like, wait what happened to that person? But you you on the post as I've seen pictures of you in Japan. I've seen pictures of you in China. I've seen pictures. That's a big shift in Hollywood. It's a huge shift but to be honest. I mean, the first film was made in nineteen ninety seven I was fourteen years old Will Smith. They came a bonafide movie star would not be here without him just true. And we can take it for granted now. But the fact that he was able to talk line, a studio movie a franchise and bring his black identity to it is hugely groundbreaking rights, just as do you think that's a big thing that needs to like shift is how people perceive the ability of actors who are black to be bankable as well, because like everyone seems to get surprised in like. Appeals movies that they did surprisingly well, and then, you know. Always happens with, like with black that they were like. Surpassed all expectations, whereas avengers, the captain marvel it'd be like it predictably hit its numbers course that seems like it's shifting there has been this met this really antiquated. Tired myth that Hollywood is held onto, which is black and Brown faces don't sell overseas. They don't wanna see us in China. They don't wanna see us in Russia. I'll tell you what I went to Russia. I went to China. They were very happy to see me, and I was happy to see them and. And my phone is that we can get to space where a woman in particular woman of color, top lining studio movie is not something that we need to celebrate or congratulate or acknowledged because it's just commonplace. And so my hope is that films like this help us get there, which is my soft pitch. For why people should go see film. You just added one more to that. Thank you so much for being on the show. Some watching your screen love having men in black international, maybe theaters nationwide June fourteenth Tessa on everybody. Daily show cover Noah. Here's the Valey show. Weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy central and the comedy, central watch episodes and videos at the daily show dot com. 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625: Westworld S3E1 Reaction: "Parce Domine"

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25:30 min | 7 months ago

625: Westworld S3E1 Reaction: "Parce Domine"

"How did you buckle? Who's this is greetings from the Uncanny Valley I with me as his Don Melton Party. I'm DON party on cars. This is the reaction show or the flash cast. Whatever you WANNA call it four season three episode one of Westworld we are part of the TV. Podcast on the incomparable network. I'd like to think Jason and everybody over it and comfortable for hosting us and we are going to talk about the first episode of season three and this is going to work the way. The reaction shows did last season where once we into it. We're going to set a timer and when the timer goes off. We're totally done. So I think we're going to go ahead and start and Don. What do you think I figure? I'm wondering why they titled the episode after a Roman Catholic chant least I think that's what a Parsi dominate means but You got me. I think it's Latin since the thing is I've only watched it once. We've basically got got done. My I watch with my family and my wife and my son and then you know we as usual family get together after the soda. We made plans for this Ambi- apocalypse as one does and we sat down to record the episode and I thought it was studying. I'm going to have to definitely go back and watch the new opening credits like a hundred times because really interesting and I thought the opening scene. You know who? Who is this guy that delores tormenting how obviously he's he's one of the guys create a technology that incite uses later later on? We have another guy that dolores is turning into her boy toy. Who is the son of the guy who invented the technology for insight? And who is this guy is dead. What's his last name? Who IS HIS SCOTTISH ASSISTANT? Abusers thug whoever that guy is why is every kills? No yeah this was one of my question about the episode is why every like hard core son of a bitch on the show is a Scottish Guy Yes yes and then you know it's it's mostly cutbacks We don't get much. Charlotte Hill is very little Tessa Thompson. Here yes we get exactly A No No Man in black. Except for the empty chair in the boardroom. Yes With Thomson we get Bernard having multiple conversations with themselves and as my son said after the associates says like well. Apparently Bernard has a hulk out button. I was worried like what happens if somebody hits the garage door opener and then just loses it just opens up a can of whoop on them so I thought that was where so this is how warned everybody that don't believe Jonathan Lisa when they say. Oh it's going to be a linear story everything destroy. That's obviously that's all horse exhaust because all this episode was was simply the fuck episode right. It's like what the Hell is going on that. That which is constant trump thing and so and of course. That's that's that's my thing. I love that kind of stuff. That's what I love about. The first season was getting to the end of that first episode going. I have no idea what's going on and I can't wait to not find out right. So so there's a doe Ed Harris yet. No lukens worth. We haven't seen Ashley Stabbed No Simon Quartermaine. Even though he's listed as returning cast member outlets about and no Rodriguez Santo but and this was funny. Because we didn't text very much during the episode folks but I let I like Kelly. I was done watching. I had to do my business and the business and she said and did she takes me a little bit letters. Oh finally the credits and I said wait until the Smiley face. Watch it all the way through because back. Panty Newton is back in. What did you call it in your notes the rash so this must be the rake and so so. My son was like like debt. They they have to bring Hitler into this one. Is Everybody Bring Hitler into the show? What if they don't so I mean that's what I told him. I said shut up. Shut up do I said we. We don't know we don't know yet so we'll see So so thing that that. Entertain me most about this coming in was The recap that they gave right at the top to catch everybody up and part of what I liked in. That was the part recap. Hbo Gave You a recap. Yeah when I started the episode. They gave me the like previously on. Westworld. I've got nothing. I thought I thought they were going to do that. Are Some stupid commercial for ballers yes. Hbo Shows and I'm like my son and wife. And I are talking and I'm like everybody shut the hell up. It started there. There was no lead in whatsoever so who's the previously on. Well the two things I noted from it were We got the reminder that Dolores has five brain velvet cupcakes. What if which we know who that is but only one? It's IT'S BERNARD. Right is one of the ones that she walked out of the park with because she. I think so. Yes she shake and she shaken baked him right at the end of the episode of Naked. Right and then the question is who are the other four and which one of those four is walking around in Charlotte one drive in Charlotte? Yeah which ones arrive in Charlotte so then the other thing I noticed was that Bernard. There's a moment where Dolores is talking to Bernard and I think he was naked and she said in that room there at the end and she said it'll take both of us to survive but not as friends. Yeah Yeah there's a nice there was a two minute catch up in the last season little thing that HBO had they didn't tack to the Front of the episode. I watched it separately because my son especially it was asking questions. Like getting people's names wrong. He says well what happened to this character. It was like ooh yeah make hand signals right. I was surprised the thing is ordinary. People can't keep track of this stuff. No and I you know let alone intricacies of the plot aside from the fact that it's been how long since since we had S. T. ten. Yeah at least five years right. So we'll it feels like ten. I think the calendar says it's like two. Yeah but yeah. Yeah so so But we didn't move on with our lives Kelly. No we didn't we wouldn't do absolutely but those were the things that I I remembered from. That and part of the reason that was amusing to me is because we're going to spend a lot of this season figuring out who the WHO the balls are and and it just reminded me of tracking down the final Ceylon which Yes for us a throwback to season one and also speaking of throwing back to season one. I was absolutely in love with seeing Caleb. Wake up every morning. That was great. I really liked that. We got to keep sort of a three line with that. Oh yeah good point. Though I did enjoy. So what did you think of Caliban? And how many seconds? It take you to figure out that the guy he was remembering and he's having conversations with is obviously dead wrong and it was. I think it was like the second time he said something. Eliza like remember the Elisa Chat. Bot that was like. Let's talk about that or he's you know we should talk about that or whatever it was he said and the like he said it once. And I'm like that's a weird thing to say to your friend and then the second. I think he said something very similar a second time and I was like. Oh yeah he's he's talking to Gerry or something. And then but then he had to. Unsubscribe he had unsubscribe at the end of the episode from his friend and it was so sad. I was very sad for them. Well if it's anything like Alexa you can't really get rid of it. So that's true. He's probably not really and subscribed or scrap immediately but it'll be ten to ten business days before they stop athletes and right and and and then he can buy stuff except of course for toilet paper. So yes I I love. Kahlo excited to see where he goes. I hope he's a massive part of this season. Because he's really. I really like Aaron Paul so Caleb is GonNa be really fun to watch. Aaron Paul's face acting is top notch along with everybody else in the cast. My son told me that one thing that You know the intricacies of the show. Sometimes it would annoy my son but he said one thing that this show has got going forward it has the absolutely best casting on TV handstand. And Yeah I would agree. So the other thing is that my family commented on was the look of the of the show. It's like there were a few times it it. It's SORTA dropped into a cleaner version of blade runner listening renner through an apple filter. I think yes yes. Blade runner through apple stores. That was what it was. In other words it was dystopia but a clean and tidy dystopia. It was very well organized dystopia. Yeah and so you got that right away. Well let's talk about the cast for a second because we have to aside from Caleb played by Paul. We have a couple of other people so we have this guy. Liam we don't know we don't even know his last name so we've Liam who whose dad is apparently a really big deal and The Guy Playing Liam. I'm not gonNA remember his name. You probably know it but he was Jim on the newsroom. If you watched earns newsroom on. Hbo A couple years ago. That's him so if he looks familiar that might be why. And then also the guy that goes around with Caleb. Who Wears the shirt that has his emotion lit up on it? That guy is marshawn Lynch. Who is a football player and for people? Who Don't really follow football. You may remember a clip of a guy doing an interview after a football game and his response to every question was. I'm just here so I don't get find those marshawn Lynch so that's him and I don't know how he ended up mixed up in Westworld but I love it but the way we do know who's GonNa play The the the father yes And so that's apparently going to be somebody named Jefferson Maze okay And so I don't know when he comes in But he's obviously not that much older than the Guy John Gallagher. Junior who's young out your tunnel any. Yes so I. I don't know when the hell comes in. But he's apparently the CO founder of a of insight so so there so we also had transformers clothing. Yes khloe transformers clothing. So which was pretty. Did I really? Yeah like if somebody doesn't already have that dress on Amazon. Making all the money right now. They could be those very cool. I really did like that. All of a sudden wam she was wearing totally different wrestles. Great we got a little bit of massive attack win. Caleb went into the party because the music of course was awesome. The music this time was a little more of Tron legacy then what we've had in the past of course because we're not we're not in the park anymore so it's not going to sound like a player piano but that was pretty cool but we're not part most of this episode. I suspect next episode with the cut to Maeve waking up in Nazi. Land that we're going to be in the park next week and with Bernard after he hawked out and I don't know if he actually killed those guys are not. He's bribing some guy to to get back to the Dallas Island to go to Westworld so the question is is might provide. WanNa go back there because I think he said there's a person who has to see he's looking for he's looking for a friend and then they where where do you need to look. And he gives him the map and shows in its westworld. And why do you want to go there? This is my theory and obviously. Yeah my theory is he's looking for stubs. I was fifty fifty on who he was looking for. Because it's either stubs or Maeve. Because he knew the Maeve all that well. So I think it's dubs because stubs knows how everything works. Yeah but he knew maeve new hen when he came back because she brought him back and she was like we've because remember she said like we've done this dense before darling and so she knew all about him and what his deal was and everything and so. I wonder I've wondered if it might be her but I also wondered if it might be stops because it's one or the other and we don't know anything about stubs yet. We haven't seen Ashley anywhere yet at all. Have we know? We haven't seen him this episode. We haven't seen like I said my my favorite Brooding Guy Rodrigo Santoro Hector. We haven't seen crazy old man Ed Harris yet either. So I'm curious when that comes in and we'll we'll see who makes the cut and I'm pretty sure I have a theory again. These all come with the asterisk of that we will be absolutely by the end of the season but My theory is that we will get hector because at the end of episode ten at the season finale of of season two when we got to the end of that like the two technicians sort of left were Felix and Sylvester. And somebody said we want the what was it. We want the two of you to fix can salvage the ones that can be. Salvaged you think you geniuses can handle that or whatever and the way in the two of them were like yeah they look at Maeve. Yeah so I'm assuming they've decided hector could be salvaged and Dermot possibly right. So I think I think maeve squad coming back so Hopefully we get a little bit armistice and armistices Japanese counter shogun world counterpart. Whose name escapes me. But she was amazing all over again when I was one exceeds a doozy was so good. I loved her so I hope we got her to so. That's that's what I think about. That's why I was thinking. Maybe like we will see hector again because I think obviously those to know that of the people to be saved. These are these are the ones to save so. I think that might be. Yeah you will see so so there's a lot of players this time. Yes obviously there is something wacky going on in a in sight. Yes with the computer whose name I never quite caught. Yeah by the way I want to say one problem I have this. I'm going to have to watch the whole thing again because I don't know what it is about this show but can you can you? Can you stop hiring people foreign accents mumble? Because I'm going to have to go watch subtitles because I don't like to watch subtitles distracting. But I damn near turn them on. Because I'm like what what what I win win Scottish a whole had dolores in the backseat and started talking to her and like I have no idea what happened just there. Let me just back up and do that again with texts because I have no idea what he's saying by the by the way the I wanted to ask if you thought because I could. I didn't see her name in. The credits wasn't paying attention to the credit. But remember the the son of the guy who invented the insight master computer he gets called to a meeting with this really ominous lady. Yes who threatens to kill himself? Was that Palm Clementine if you know. She's the one who played Mantis in Guardians of the galaxy volume to someone on Reddit said. Omg Mantis in. All caps. In the live episode stream was watching so I think so was palm because I looked like I got to tell you if if she did play at boy she's got range yes. She was scary and menacing. Oh she was scared. She was very very scary. So Yeah George her a lot so but I don't see her list now because we get PDF's falling all over itself trying to like the pages and stuff right now and read. It doesn't have everything right either so somebody definitely thought it was her at least one person that I saw was freaking out that they got to see mantis. So yeah so what I what I couldn't figure out. My son was complaining about various plot holes and silliness. Yes and stuff like that but the thing that got me is like okay so these criminals are all using these APPs right. Yeah why doesn't the government or the the AI? In charge of everything and obviously wired into everything? What is it about that? Well if you're brokering all this crime in think fed not only the people running the APP stores like kind of pulled that. Why isn't all kinds? A things tracked. Ps obviously everything else's tracked it's like Ebay but crime So I watched the little couple of minutes after the after the show ended when they you know what the beginning when they say. Stay tuned for look inside the episode. I watched that and they said it was blockchain. You had one of those. Hp was just kept me crap. Tonight I got no preview for the next episode inside the episode stuff. What are you only get that with? Hbo HBO now. You're just chipping me. Hbo Now this is the alarm going off. Yes so I so I thought that's your phone and you don't actually have a wind up twenty minutes alarm. The phone set to make the ring any alarm noise timer noise. Because that's like I'm hard for that. I've had that that sound. You know when time is up forever. So blockchain is Jones said in this thing at the end because there are there are ways on black showing that you can do this sort of stuff with no government tracking no way for anybody else to sort of get into that transaction and see what's going on and that's a very real thing that happens now is blockchain and then you like and you mean you and I mean no Nolan's pulling the buzzword out of his ass you can but the tiny bit I know about blockchain sounds like that's legit. So maybe he knows a tiny bit. And it's just enough to somebody like me that goes like I've heard of this. But blockchain is a good way to do encrypted distributed things and apparently in the future those things include crime. So you know hey by the way. I don't know why complaining about because I'm not complaining about you. Know A and self aware robot might be questioned in. This episode was who dolores was talking to. Yes because I can't get I can't get the weather out of a house. An assistant in my life reliably right now digital assistant so how. She got a lease while she walked into the building. Like whoa Amazon got good. That was pretty handy so there was lots of things. My big thing. This episode was. It was a very typical first episode opening up new world. Because all it did wishes open up questions did a good job of introducing us to Caleb. Yes yeah did a good job of showing you know what sort of Dolores mission is and it gave is the first path to see what bernards mission is. We don't really know what's motivating him. And who that guy talking in his head is is that hard or is that you know is is Ford Comeback for visit. We will find out no. Yeah we'll find out it's GONNA be great so I like that and I like their use of Tessa Thompson but I do want more Tessa Thompson. Please we'll get more. I guarantee it we have to. I mean they wouldn't put her in the credits if she wasn't going to be like a bigger deal so I'm sure we'll get more of her. That's going to do it for US dealer. Go off so we're going to call it here but we will have a full episode leader this week. I will let all of you know that we will probably both watch it with the sound off because it was just so pretty just once through just to look at it and then go back through and and watch it again you know with all the sounded everything and the gorgeous music. So that's GonNa do it. We will talk to all of you later done. We're going to be behind you. Don Melton at done melting on twitter or just done Milton on Gab. You can find me as verse twitter. Sometimes and you can generally find the show at Westworld rewind thanks again to Jason and everybody at the incomparable. In the meantime be excellent to each other

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MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL - Double Toasted Audio Review

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MEN IN BLACK INTERNATIONAL - Double Toasted Audio Review

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You keep you. We wish you keep you as over there. But. Within my Bs, now ain't got big Willie. They ain't got big Tommy. We'll man what's don't happen man Altima is over. Then that's the problem with your boys. We need to bring them. But gene, is up in here, man, this oh, Sex's as men in black 'cause I told you mind, we can't say, we are persons of black is only a matter of time. Yeah. And by the way, why, why what always gotta been American Mark. You know, there's, there's people, a black under c- alien around all over all over when we go here, that side of the story, they heard complaints, and they say, you know, we're not only going to bring these females up in here at least one, but we're gonna go into national within s was happening here. Tessa Thompson is a new. Wow. Star say men in black, but women in black this time around going to be Chris Hemsworth partner again, you know together again for the first time. Inseparable. Yeah. When Chris Hemsworth, his partner, Liam Neeson, pro I guess he's now promoted to being head in my agency, Kristen worth. He's kind of gone solo Dolo with his missions out. They don't need. Nobody's kind of JAMES BOND the agency. Can't be fucking these alien chicks. When I got another check on my ads right here, telling me not to be sexist, but that's about to change when Tessa Thompson, who somehow some way, has the smarts intelligence to not just talk away into the organization, but practically break in. And it's just like hackers mail you break in. It's like well shit. We can't put in jail. Not, you know, everything can't put you away. We got to hire you. And that's what they're going to do with her. They're going to hire her. And as we said, aliens are invading from all around the world in every nook and cranny, and she sent over to London where they need a few good women to help keep things under control. Kenny really pull this off with that boys up in, you know, is it was at least Kim by with big Willie man. Kennex still keep the same charm without his wise cracking adds up. And now let's go. You know, we can't he can't do it forever. That's true known stick around for three Tommy Lee Jones. He said fuck this. I'm not coming back Sylla's movies last two movies trying to get out of it. He really had the last year. He was mad as fuck did not want to be there. I mean, hell you get through the end of the first movie and he quits. Yeah. At the very end of the first movie he quits. Yeah. So we need some fresh new blood up in here. We'll drag them around for two more exactly want to be in this shit. Wait till you quit. Need some new blood? And also the popular thing to do these days, is to do a reboot, which is what they hope to do with this. Start a whole new franchise. Let's take a look at men in black as they go into national. The universe has away of leading if to way you're supposed to be at the moment, just to be their students. Twenty years to find you. Say that. You are the best kept secret in the universe. Found which makes perfect for this job. He really think of black suit. Is going to solve all your problems. No, but let's damn good on you. Snap. Oh snap. They here. Mommy. Maybe keep going. Recognizable only. And dismissed Justice quick case. We may have. And you will be. Best to weather suit. Catching up daily meditation time for lunch. I thank you. Nine thirty. It's nine thirty. Tuesdays taco day. We've been compromised every citizen of this planet at risk. He's just not real. What he got himself into. He saw his moving. I just read right night, man. I haven't is. He saw his last night. Now you got some disappointment on his. Dr here. It'll be fun love fun with it. It'll be a big red button around here somewhere. We are the men in black. Ten. Incredible. Ever get away from Thorpe, you keep doing this. Trying to break away. You need to quit stay away from hammers. Yeah. You could've picked up another tool. I would've told him don't, don't make me do this really funny. You'll see. Oh, you know, something man, I will admit to you. I'm not a huge fan of the first film now thought to say I don't like it. I do. Like I know is a wild success. I mean it's not like one of my favorite movies is not one of my go-to, but the first movie I do like. We work for a highly funded yet. Unofficial. Government agency. We'll take it from here. I n s division six. There is no division six. Our mission. Is to monitor extraterrestrial activity on earth. Here because you're the best of the best and we're looking for one of you. Some coffee coffee. No. Thank you. I'm fine. That was a movie that I didn't think it was great. But a lot of people did, and I will say that it was a lot of fun. Well, I won't say it's, it's certainly not perfect, but it is a lot of fun. Yeah. It's, it's very rewatch -able. And it was original, yes, it was. That's what I was gonna say is if nothing else has a great idea. And I think you will wanna even tell me I read it that if it's based off of off of a comment. Yeah. Nineteen Ninety-one is winning came out the first issue. Right. But it's got a great idea. It's better than the comic book was, that's what yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at that art, right? Yeah. That comic book was just kinda like a, a non starter. It was it was out there. But people had to remind you from comic book. Oh, yeah. Remember that title but they did so much with it. It had a fresh look and every time, it's which to a new scene. It was just something new alien designs were all different and something like, oh, this is fun and the aliens in there and the movies. Right. Funny yet. No, it is. Man. It it's very fun. And you know what? I think it works, mainly for, for the weird reason that Will Smith and timely Jones. They worked so well together in this 'cause I always thought that those were two people who should never be together. Sure. Yeah. That whole. Mixing of buddy, buddy, cop opposites. It's one of those times it worked really well, I always thought that man, look, I like, I like we'll Smith a lot of people love Will Smith. But Tommy Lee Jones, I just thought he was a guy who just went tolerate this, Tommy Lee Jones. Just the angry man. Tommy Lee Jones got mad at cartoon characters the time he was at the Oscars and got mad just because Beavis and Butthead were in the room. Focused on the state. Heated had no pay at all. I got dressed up for this. Silly to more. I thought this was a dignified event, right? I think again. Keep immunity. But, you know, I always used to think that if timely ever ran the wheels Smith, he choke the shit. He just seemed to have. But I'll tell you man. Those two, I think even when the franchise was at his lowest, it was either him are Will Smith who were who keeping it going man. Well, you also had so many great side characters like their boss rip torn and Vincent enough Rio as the alien. He's very memorable. Yeah. Like when everything got still in the movie man, those guys are the ones that kept it going. I mean how many times can you do a neutral is in joke for the shit, get stale? But somehow, their personalities always made it work. You know, you're not supposed to be north of canal street. Who smuggled? It's relaxed punk. Looking for me, not shoot crazy. Right. To grow men talking to the wall, wall talking bag is a mess day, Donny worry about it. They freaked up Mexican. Spray paint. Here up neutralize him. You know. And that's why I say now now that they're gone thing. Nothing. If if it my personal opinion now that those two gone, you look, I ain't saying you can get somebody else. But in the instance that we have here you. You ain't got enough. There was a part in the movie where they showed a painting a Will Smith and timely Jones. I just like you know it just just posit there about an hour. 'cause moving got shit else going on. Man. I am sorry. I know this is beloved to a lot of people even with the bad movies out there. But I am just I'm gonna come out come out the gate, telling you, I just did not like this movie. Here's here's okay. I'll, I'll say something, a couple of positive things about this movie is that it's looks really slick. I mean it's not change of directors and producers at all. And it still looks like a mini black movie. Not just looks like a minute back. It looks like an updated men in black movie. And, and just the just the the way it's filmed. And all the stuff in it. I was like, man. This looks so good and personality wise, a lot of it falls on the shoulders of Chris Hemsworth. And I think I think he's fine. I think he's I think he's funny. He's charming, the problem is, it's all on him and they don't really give him much. I think. Yeah, I agree with you, because. The, the partnership with him and Tessa Thompson like her character. She's just she's just kinda slight in a little bit of knowing when they put them together. There's not a lot of them plan off of each other. Like you'd think there would be after seeing them in a few marvel movies. Yeah. Yeah. See and with the with the background and the main story you kinda like this is just kinda nothing. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying man while the presence of timely Jones with and Will Smith is definitely missed that should matter man because this idea that they have here, it should be bigger than there is. Yeah, it's the, this whole idea of a CIA organization meant, just for aliens, this so much, but material to be mined from that. And you know, with an issue be bigger than any stars at ain't here. The stars will actually add to it. But show way biggest should be. But what they keep doing these movies, and has gone downhill since the. First one. Yeah. Keep doing with this, especially is that you can blatantly see how this was made to meet the studio requirements for blockbuster. Oh, this movie. It's it's so by the numbers, and it's so safe. It's it reminded me of Kingsman to accept a very safe safe version of that, that, you know, what that's a great example, because everything in here. Feels like a can't really can't embrace potential in his weirdness because the studios keep requiring that you need this to sell this to this demographic right here, and the only place that it really takes advantage of its weird possibilities is creature design, which they do a lot here, even like these show, you this, same creatures. They've been showing you throughout the series, but they got a lot more variety in there. The creature designs can always be a lot of fun in this in this in this series. And I'm gonna tell you men going into national. That should have been very interesting. I should have been the thing that really took this to a brand new area. Right. Because the main place may say going in international they're going over to London London, and you can see here, of course, when they ain't gonna go someplace where they gotta have subtitles wrestling guy. Go completely speak in English. Pippa cheerio bits but they, you know with this, it would have been cool to see now again, here I go in my own area of what I would have liked to have seen the kind of movie I have made but I mean, just think about it because it's the setups, right there. You have a in studios doing this. We wanted start having more strong female characters. We wanna start actually even on mainstream movies. We wanna start reanalyzing. How some these characters in some of these movies might have been, you know, outdated in kind kinda sexist back in the day. But has cold, we're going. We're going through making a men's right now. I thought it would have been cooled how she goes over to the man in black organization in London. And it is a in my six version of that would aliens, and you have Chris Hemsworth, here, who is a complete sexist asshole, man, and she has to go through, and call him on his bullshit, all the time. Yeah. You know, because in the movie is kind of dumb get away. You know that's what they're trying to get bio isn't he hot, you know, in any oh, isn't Disney funny in a goofy. But charming and hot Conaway Tessa Thompson, I thought it would have been cool, but her putting him in his place, but they don't really take advantage. Will they do that thing where it's like, hey, we get in the female in here who's who's, who's who's smarter? But when they brought Will Smith in you remember how he got recruited because he was kind of a supercop. Yeah. And they were like man. You got some skills, and with her, it's not so much. You got skills. You somebody who's been a groupie of his Hogan's. Eight. Yeah. So when she gets there, she's all like home. What's going on? What do I do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I want a strong female to, I don't want her to be somebody who's plugged in just for that reason, like make her something I agree. Because, you know, do they? I don't think they re take advantage of the premise of going to London is the oh, they, they really don't fares wheel every chance they get fucking. I London which everybody knows ferris wheels goddamn fares, will man, just because he's got a British accent. Don't make any different. Got the penny words of. Fair's wheels out there. It doesn't make a difference. But, you know, when they when they go to London what do they do different? Not got down thing. I kept forgetting that it was in London. You know, when they go there they do what they do in everyone movies. They walk around the office in wash. Fun creatures. Walk go by in the background crawling flying walk and crazy. When they. You know, when they when, when they're not when they're not doing that. You know they. They do the same formula, the same gag when the not neutralizing people, which is a running gag itself. And they don't really do anything different with that they go to the street and they talked to people that look like humans. But then you find out they got alien duck feet. Are they got talking facial hair and everything on? But that that beard, did get me got me. Oh shit. Because I heard somebody talking. And I was like, who? What is that something that, that worrying came up is facing on fuck that did freak me out when I saw it? I like that. But this little things like that, that's every so often, like, all right. That was cool. Well, that's why I always say that. That's the place that I still don't go as far as with it as that. But that's why I say the creature stuff is some of the most interesting things going on. Because that's when they came embrace their weirdness. Which, I don't think they do enough know take the take the chance to really. I mean, this is this, this is something where you can go to spectacularly weird areas with an inhabits still makes sense but it was just so the studios stone. Was on. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. You can feel it. You can feel with it being restrained. And I got we have an algorithm in what you need to have in here. Yes. And don't go above this and doing thing too weird because it might it might freak out the audience and they won't come back. Yep. And, you know, the, the I think the other. Reason the, the other reason for. For them going into national is just so they can bring in a certain out on Oprah show, but I wouldn't doubt it if they went into national because they want to bring in a very hot actor right now, and I say hot I'm talking about business wise and I wouldn't do I wouldn't doubt if they would do this just because they want to bring in Chris Hemsworth and lock him in and they haven't excuse for his accent. Sure. You know, because really, they don't want him to like, I'm sure you could probably do what's out like an American accent. But that British accent is already been his trademark from Thor. It has an and he, he works as a JAMES BOND type character as just okay? You got this part lockdown. Now Bill the rest around it. Yeah. Don't don't leave him hanging. Yeah. And I guess maybe they get to go shoot. Some, some nice places like that. And the, you know that in a desert and are, you know, the gone to Morocco in so host? Yeah. So they get to go to some, you know, cool locations, but again, it doesn't feel like they're really taking advantage of that. No go and they don't connect with the. Morocco base of the, the whole the whole place is just one John extra. None of those people are characters and all. Dues stare at the camera. Right there with the grey short and the pot belly and the Bill. Maybes walleye. Like maybe one is just looking at different directions. Maybe alien. Clearly see what everybody's told. Okay. Everything's happened over here and rather him doing his part looking what he's supposed to be he stared at the camera. You know, the regular dad. Dammit. Can we see? Can we see about a look the other during my man it's too late on the process? You know, the, the movie is it, it is. So scattered. All over the place. That that's what we're talking about. You can feel. That's why I thought it was great. What you say that you feel them the thumb of the studio. All on this man. The, the hill of the Bootle movies, neck. Because it spills, the stores of scattered all over the place that, that with this. It's you can feel the back and forth of the script changes man. Yeah. You can feel where when back and forth in studio was saying, change this change. That that's not gonna work add more this pullback on this kids will love this. You can feel it as you're watching the movie. What have you noticed that this is thing, that's been happening with these blockbusters? These, these studio lead blockbusters. I noticed here knows didn't Godzilla. We talked about it in dark Phoenix. And someone else where the pace the pace of movies his has gotten much faster than they were the eighties. Seventies. But they've just jumped a couple gears. Now where everything is moving so fast that, that there's no resting and, and really like you know, filling a scene in developing a scene. It's always just move to the next thing. To the next thing move to the next in the detriment of that, to the movies that they are moving so fast in scriptwriting changes are so rapid. They follow the rules anymore. So, you know, the big thing with the with the men in black people in black when they want to say is that we would never hear you. Never saw doing any of this crazy, right? And yet in this movie, everyone sees them on this futuristic alien, motorcycle jetski, whatever it is. And everybody sees them. And for some reason they decided to just stop in just neutralize a corner people before they go zipping right back into it. The here. Okay, that's cool. But what about the rest of the city that's how you doing this shit, and you didn't neutralize all of them, eighty try like give an explanation. You know. And I don't I don't like I don't know. You know. Maybe all these people were the maybe all these folks over here, where the, the neighborhood snitch is some, you know, I don't know. I know y'all. Especially this man. What is he can't even look at the look? Look at the camp. He. No, he will keep this. But. A lot of people are gonna say now nitpicking with this. Come on. Man. Let's is beyond. Nobody is here to, to, to look at the fine details. People just here to have fun in the people here to just a we, we hid to look at the candy, whether it's Tessa Thompson are Chris him worth. And you know what the biggest thing I finally got finally got my, my door and my Dockery, buddy solo movie. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I got my I got my throwing Dockery, spin off movie in if that's what y'all won't then you'd better go watch Thor ragnarok. Because what you got here is no chemistry with these to the and that was the prising thing. Yeah. Because I think that's a lot of what selling this. When you watch the, the trailers, it's like, hey, man. All I know that the two of them together. I can't wait to see going work out. Not like you think I'm. I know it sounds like again that we just not we just starting to hate. But just just here's yo just here's a moment here because really as wacky as the antics are between these two, you would think that they went through so much crazy stuff in his film, that they would have no no choice but to have some great interaction with each other. And it just ain't happening because you actually said in Martin, and, and I'm, I'm just on, like span that for you. You got you got Chris Hemsworth in here who. He's cracking jokes, man. You know, he's doing, like he's, he's doing what people love him for as thorton you know, he's cracking jokes. The whole thing is charming is even funny. Sometimes sometimes sometimes. And also, I gotta give it to you. When they say that he's kind of like a JAMES BOND, Chik are sorry, JAMES BOND, kind of guy. I like that. They actually pushed that in a certain area like they showed him, like, like, like just fucking alien girls, man. Yes. Like if you mix JAMES BOND with captain Kirk read you. Just JAMES BOND. He like anything. Put some on that tank, an right? They're mad at me. No. You know, I will say that they do push it a little bit not. Yeah. He's, you know, he's sleeping with alien chicks and tentacles and stuff. I kind of found that funny, I just thought that they wish they had pushed that a little bit more, but would him cracking jokes and everything it would work. But it's very one sided. It's so one sided. It's because in the movie. It's not that Tessa Thompson is bad is just that her character. There's nothing to her man. That she has. He's bouncing the he they're trying to riff. He's bouncing stuff off of her and she in. She gives him nothing. She's just she is uninteresting, right? He is just he's throwing it right. Tour and everytime, which is bouncing off a glove. Yeah. Yeah. There's just his jokes. Just hit him in the face when they bounce back these, she'd gives him nothing and is not her fault is just that she is just not an interesting character, the moment, they said her up they Russia into the movies, so fast. How backstory is not really backstory backstory as an excuse to just get her in the film? She's on. She's like she's done the dress room. They need you. Still going. Where I tell my story, we passed all just get out there. You're a member now. Put the pseudo, you know what I what I do. I mean, did you notice a similarity to her joining up with them to the movie we just saw late night with immature is almost the same character. Can you start today? It's too many mid minute. Come on. We got we got a quarter to fill fucking you start. I mean you here we should be sending as to jail, but you're here because I, I love these, these strong female characters and movies. But I'm like God damnit make them strong make them strong. And she is forced into the movie so fast so awkwardly that even her before the test Thompson, the movie, they fucking story, a little girl don't even it doesn't even make any sense. They neutralize and people everywhere. And when you watch the scene with her as a little girl, they just suck at that job ain't doing what they supposed to do. My parents memories that you didn't get mine. We'll why not. I think they so they nipping neutralize parents in. They asked the ask the parents is there anybody else in the house, and they say, yeah. We have a daughter that's upstairs. Do they go upstairs? And look ahead. No, she's upstairs. She's probably asleep. Yeah. We'll go check it out of fucking check on him in you. See what happens when you don't. She breaking in. And the funny thing is all her backstory is, is just a set up a plot twist. Way down the line that you could see from flying overhead airplane, going to tell you all the moment. Chelsea something else blue and his move. You know exactly what you're gonna pull your popcorn out. The is not just that the characters are just not interesting, but the visa just shit at their job. Maybe it's just the London brains. You will before that, that was the American branch right there. Okay. Never mind. No excuse. More. No. You wanna stick by your man in black, people believe, blue stickball officers. They got a hard job. Oh, shitty at the man. Also. Another. I mean, the rest of the cast is not is, is, is not that great either. You have a another reason I guess, for having a London branches, you can get people in here which doesn't make any difference like Liam Niessen in Emma Thompson. Liam neeson's. I'll tell you man. He really hadn't on doing here. But at least he plays a role at some point here. Emma Thompson, just to pick up her check in just go. And she has to walk owns in this movement. And I'm serious he walks on and off. She's got about five loss to say she's gone. Yep. This. It is so easy. I'm serious. They say must have got her because she was already in the area. She must have been picking up a draft lean. Please. It's right down the street. You're ready wearing black. We'll have you out of here by two o'clock. I'm probably. She picked up a tech man. It was gone by that point. But here's the other thing these two. Okay. That's fine. Man. They're walking that really playing a big role here. They just just there to like ask support to some of the younger characters. But the villains that is the weirdest casting in this. In this villains plays on the villains in this. They got no personality. The biggest thing about their characters is that the cold blooded murders. Oh when they say dancers. Well, I'll get to that they are cold blooded murders. And when they do they this is one thing I guess, they fucked people up day do innate. They and it's one of those things. Whereas another hardly crucible death. You like damn was supposed to be in the same Phil. Yeah. Yeah. This is supposed to be the same movie they met people at heart and they do a slow and the cameras stays on it. Yeah. They melted somebody's face and like God, damn, I remember that was reserved for rated off fills right there. But even though they horrible gruesome murders when they're not doing that. They just what a dance. Be the booze. In the U confu. 'cause it's like okay. Why does the movie stopped to get these aliens who had nothing to do with dancing a dance number? You asked me, how craziest movies like seriously, they stopped to give them like a five second dance number man. Now it would be it would be different. If dancing had something to do with the alias care till, they set it up. But no what happened was is the other way around since they hired dancers. They tailored to aliens around them. These two guys French their fringe dances called les twins. I was like, man everything from the nineties comes back, even. Millie girl. You know. They like me living illegal aliens. But look, great dances. Don't get me wrong. These guys actually wanted to keep going. Yeah. No, they're mazing man. You should go online and look at some of the dads and I'm not playing music Ray because I don't wanna have to these guys like America's got talent. You know what I saw them? Yeah. Yeah. We can cut someone his out of we decide to put some else. But I I sit with the with the with the music man he's guys they're amazing. Yeah. Maybe he's having a seizure. No costs. No keep going. Fucking me man. They'll also be in the in the, the new movie version of cats. So they'll be desma to will they really. Yeah. No. Yeah. They're making a movie a cat's. Yes, they are. So they'll be they'll be dancing, aliens and dancing cats. About musicals. I never had any desire to see, but you know what it'd be funky than ever. Midnight. And the kid is us. Lee mown down now fund these cats. Start losing control. Now man. They, it's like I don't mind working silly fun movie. But you can tell that, that had nothing to do. They just did it because I don't maybe because they're again, they're, they're up and coming. They're rising f Gary gray, who's the director who's coming off of. What was it was it was furious? Is that was last one before that it was strata. Compton. Oh, right. Right. Right. So, yeah. I don't think I can think of is that he just like these guys. Yeah. And just decided to him in the guys in here. Yeah. And just tailored the aliens around in which doesn't make any sense, 'cause those, those aliens, they don't even come back to later. They all these guys. They just walk around with glowing eyes shit, but it's like all right. This is this thing is just all over the place man. One of the things that I thought I would hate in his moving. Is the thing that I had the most character, and it kinda kept the spirit of what I thought the movie should've could've been boy, Ponti, little, the little, the little carrot manufactured to sell toys. Loyalty tunnels view. I'm not interested to light now replies. The loyalty, I wish you'd said, no no number four, because that's Qamil non Johnny. Yeah. Who does y'all known? And that's the thing is at living a bunch of it. And I don't know what it what like man look this little son of a bitches just meant to. He's the strictly for the kids, he some for the kids to kind of, like they don't scare that Melton, the people and everything. And then I think as you see him on the advertising now and everything the posters, and plus, I think they might be trying to get a toy out of this. That was the thing about his character, the whole time I was like you're only here to sell something. Sweet. We could we could be surgically taken his movie, and it wouldn't affect anything whatsoever. And the thing is he's about seventy percent annoying, but as a thirty percent while I was like, all right. That was kind of funny. No, there was some things that, that like the stuff that when Khamelnov nanjiani was able to do to make it fun. Like you said, ad lib or something that was fine all the shit that they manufactured for him. Somebody step on his ass. I know somebody swat him. Because I couldn't. Yeah, I, I that, that, that is the most obvious piece of marketing in here. Yeah. And even you say, like, well, there was Frank the bulldog, but Frank was cool. Frank Frank was cool in. They even tried to have him this movie. They don't have now, you'll see posters of Frank everywhere. Not frank. No, they got that pug. Now. They try to push it with this pug, and the movie goes go. See all these poses with this pug, wearing a suit gaining this fucking movie, man. He has one shot. Once seen is about three seconds long. No. You stuck with ponty got them alien vibrator. Right. Yeah. A total them up because he's in the movie made to fit in the McDonald's happy meal buys. Yeah. He's yeah. He's meant to be putting a fun and a happy meal. Yeah. Sick and can it. Some kids go token at tour. Ponti. The fuck. I listen. I feel like I'm not one to like, kind of bring in new ratings are bitten ratings for the sake of, you know, trying to. Spice up the show, add more to it or anything like that. I'm not doing that, but I feel like with this, I need to start making a new rating this area here that just needs to be rotten tomatoes. Ask us about this all the time it needs to be split up into subcategories. And it is the rental area because I want to so much give this movie's a mobile shit, and it really is kind of close to some bullshit with me. And looking at it like you said, it's slick it does have some things in there for people who are not looking at heart as me. They have some, some things in there that remained from the series if they'll if you've been keeping up at the series and still enjoy it. I do think it has air of fun to it. Even though these guys aren't getting along. Chris, Chris Hemsworth is still kind of fun to look at a Wisha. He was given more to do and they gave him enough to, to work off this. T-. Tessa Thompson with. Yeah. It's material because I because his delivery on everything, I think is, is spot on. But just when you stop to go like, what would they give him to say? Yeah. And so I, I realize that sometimes we get things a rental and sometimes they'll be a good rental. Like when we review review them movie late night last night. Yeah. We say as a good rental, you should watch it. It's, it's okay. And it's not worth going to data for. This is something where I again, I can. The only way I can sum it up. And I've said this before, and I'll say it again, I'll try to make this, my rating now I have seen much worse. That does not carry it over I've seen truly bad movie. You know, I'm make Hata watching bad movies was why don't feel comfortable just going straight bullshit, which it is to me, like I said, but there things here that I don't wanna cross there. But it is a bad rental. And what I mean, by bad rental is that it really is off, annoys, you know, and just you you'll see some things that you kinda like here and there, you might see something that's fun. When it's not in context of the whole film, if you're watching it on TV, because that's what I'm thinking I could probably see parts of this small chunks here in near, why it'd be like, okay. That was amusing. Now. It's funny, that's fun to watch right there. But as a whole it's bad. But it's spots I could be entertained, if I'm not in the context of a theater, are I had to sit. There forcibly watch this. It is a bad rental just because nothing that really gone is my tension, the whole time and it definite doesn't work as a whole has a story. So yeah, so you got your the me you got your good rental. See it just don't rush to the theater, just a rental can take it a live taking a leave it. And then you got a bad rental, which is in is not good. But I don't think you're gonna be annoyed. If you don't have to forcibly sit there and watch it the whole time is not good at all. And that's what this is right here. I see what you're saying, because it is one where when his done, it's like well, I just saw something. Yeah. I have no no, no feeling. The man that. I think I feel like they knew allies me when I remember it. Well. The thing is I, I really, I really really like that first him. And I feel like they just they went downhill with each one successively that and leading to this one, which would lead me to the conclusion to think will man, I guess there was only enough of that, that one that one movies enough story for that. But, like, wait a minute. They did that animated series which I thought no way, I used to watch that. Religiously because they had really good stories are really good writing on that on that show which you just proved it like numb and there's a lot of material here to mind. You just have to get in there and do it, and this doesn't it bounces off of it. It's, it's so concerned with being its own property. It's, it's, it's, it's one of those movies where you can just see, like you just squint your eyes and you see the blueprint of how they are trying to build a franchise more than they are that how that's their high firearm. Eighty story whatever we can put together we got some elements in there. We, we got the look we got stars you like it'll come together, and we'll just just make a bunch of these imprint money. And it's like not, that's not why show up for this. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm with you. I mean under his necessar- necessarily say a bad rental, like I was close to give it some old bullshit. But it is just a flat line rental. Yeah. I just have no enthusiasm for this. But if it was on TV it would catch my eye. I'd probably watch if you cut the right clip. You'd probably sit down and watch the rest of it, and you'd finish it, but they ain't go. Yeah. I kinda wasted my time I could've been doing something you won't be locked into it. It's, it's one of those movies that you can have on in the background, you know what, what kind of movie it is, is. It's a movie. You don't sit down to watch you walk around the house on every night. And you start like, oh, that was kind of a pool part about the movie suck. Yeah. You know. So. Yeah, you see. What I'm saying. Spots like that's cool. That's fine. But as a whole, I really don't like this move. Now, I'll sit up there hating on this, this, this, this never point where there's not something happening, and yet, I'm bored. Yeah, yeah. You know what to be honest? I kind of was I was just like a real look. This is soul. By the studio numbers that unto a really wishes would go off a really just waiting for this to end right now. I sat up there, I had my laptop, we must just had my elbows on my laptop bag to send like this is like, Harry up. Tide. Doing nothing. Bring it back to do something with this finally. No. You know what? I even get my hope. So you ought to do a gut damn thing with this nothing young four movies in all across the galaxy and all kinds of creatures, a, you didn't do a damn thing you still neutralizing people and talking to humans that look like aliens humans. Oh, you thought Hume's own, look at their feet, they got duck feet. Oh, there's a plot twist at the end. Yeah, I know I knew that when the start. Yeah. And you right man. I, I remember. Let me see here. Let me see I remember. I remember that the animated series was. I didn't watch it. Religiously like you did. But I do know that it was it was like it was like the real Ghostbusters. Yes. Where when Ghostbusters to came out, and they fuck that, completely, like, why these cartoon characters doing a better job than you do. Remember, I used to love the used to love the opening man because opening was kinda like a honestly man. What I remember is opening this show was kinda riding off the success of the real Ghostbusters. The opening was even kinda like what I was even people said about the first minute black movie how it was sort of the new Ghostbusters. Yeah. It was it was kind of in that same vein will this, this right here. This kind of almost mimicked the opening of the, the opening of the man in black series kinda mimic. The opening of the, the real Ghostbusters. Yeah. Hoops are. We're gonna sodas ain't. Man. Yeah. Of that, man. Well, maybe now that this is out. You know, maybe they'll do another animated series at some point, maybe not. I mean a new blockbuster will drive an animated series. I could see men in black and Batman animated series, the timber movies, you know, the new place for then stead of Saturday morning is Netflix. Yeah. You're streaming service. You know, they'll probably do something like that. Because I think they've done it before they do in the dark crystal now over Netflix. At the moment just to be their students. Twenty years to find you. People can say that. You are the best kept secretly universe. And I found capital. One knows life doesn't alert you about your credit card. Doc Bram street in Bryant in the khaki shorts your TNL energy Bill went of sixty percent this month seems like you'd wanna know stand clear, the closing doors so meeting. Oh, the Capital One assistant, the catches things that might look wrong like increases to a recurring Bill, then sends an alert to your phone and helps you fix it. Another way capital. One is watching out for your money when you're not Capital One. What's in your wallet capital? One dot com for details. 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Men in Black: International

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Men in Black: International

"Attention. Please be advised. The following episode contains spoilers. Don't say we didn't warn you. I didn't go to seven years of gripe school to be called missile, Greg much. Very much. Nerd on what's going on everybody? Welcome back to nerd on the podcast. You didn't need, but you deserve. And we're all levels of nerd are welcome. Yes, nearly duly today. We find the truth of the universe as it pushes us, right where we need to be in the fourth installment of the Cunningham cinematic, universe of the in men in black international inter- Natia. We're doing. There's three things you need for every Will Smith song. There's an there's ha ha. And then there's whatever the catch is the song is. That's it. Don't be mad at me. So let's get started and introduce the hosts why name is Tom Ali Caitlyn. And I am Josh in this episode is brought to you in part by the nerd on nation. Powered by patriotic our patrons allow us to continue to make this show and keep the lights on. If you are new to patriot patriotic, essentially a membership service in which you can support your favorite creators, like I dunno nerd on. And for as little as a dollar to five dollars, you get fun stuff like discord community bonus episodes, early access step. So it's a whole bunch of stuff. But check it out. Nerd, on dot IO. Backslash patriots. Join the nation would say a whole mess of things. A whole lot assume thing, maybe even a galax internationals. No. Well, we'll talk my man. I mean we, we do people are listening to us in Brazil. We're over the world. Thank you. Bought swan down San Francisco. Madagascar. Canada. San roller national somewhat say Sacramento. Yeah. So Tom so that brings us to our first segments, because at the end of this episode, we're going to rate it one out of five allows us to. Yes. That day. Saviors. Remember that song? Okay. Not at all. The man. Easy wonder so Posey song, so anyone who is brand new to the show podcast, picking up those these, do you mean forget me, not? The flower. You don't even. As I was saying, guess that grove is a segment of our show, where at the end of the show, we're going to rate at one hundred five the lowest person that rates in the group we comes the grumble the week, encourage everyone at home to play along since who thought would have been the ground, but also what your numbers one out of five for this film is since I sometimes explain I will guess, for times claim think it's going to be Corey write that down one for Corey I, I think it's gonna be what. You don't wanna Josh. What do you think? This one's hard. Well, we can get harder. I think I am going to pick Tom. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna. Corey okay, says to me a home. So I have got to listen to that you're in my shower, I'm getting sick. I'm going to pick Josh. Hey. Also, there's two on me one on only one on Tom one on Josh. I'm free. I taylor. So yes, now that we've got all the Tallis we're gonna completely spoil that with our initial reactions in her first impressions Kaelin. How about since you have any votes on you? You tell us what you thought about the film. I like the movie I hear next. It was it was, I felt that it was a little predictable. Like I knew everything that was going to happen. And I was like, oh, you hit that Mark, you hit that Mark, this is gonna happen about now got trying to this. It was very it was a very safe movie safer than safe. I still enjoyed it knowing what I was like, I knew exactly what I was getting into it had a little touch of flair that I enjoyed and it was good. I liked it. Yeah. The movie, whose neck movie, I'll go next. I thought it was cute. I was it was cute. It was a popcorn flick. It was. Yeah, it was a -able. It was, I'll get into things later but it was cute cute. That's the word. I, I don't know. I had find I had a lot of fun in this. Of course Hemsworth. Yeah. We wouldn't have fun with Chris was range that I admire well, a Korean scum, but Tessa Thompson was really. Oh, yeah. Like I was really impressed by her performance and her movie. Yes. A hundred percent which I really dug so. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Movie, I had to watch mine after a twelve hour shoot day. Yes. So really tired and costed watching Washington was like, bring me to the theater. And I was like, all right. Let's watch this movie with scattered attained. I walked away. I was like this is a very, I'd see this on USA as a rerun young movie and. There's a lot of things that I felt like with the first movie obviously comparing because it's part of the franchise and all that stuff. But it's own movie. It's don't take new writing new story new characters shit. Those just like okay. And I was like, well, that's too movie has a beginning middle end. But you know what? I watch it again. Sure, we're not. But I go to watch Hannah. Yeah. There you go. Sting. Like I said, this is very safe film. It didn't show us anything new within the world of men in black but Tessa Thompson, and Chris Hemsworth, obviously have amazing chemistry together. And I, I hope they continue to be paired in films plea because they just instinct play off each other and have since Ragnar these. Yeah. That'd be great. But yeah, it was just it was a little too safe. I for me to really like go out and tell my friends like go watch this movies, or Scher. Like Tom said, if it's on TV, I'll keep it on. I in the theater, I couldn't help. But think like man. Shaft also came out this week and I probably here's the thing. All the performances were there. There wasn't a performance in this rose, like performance a strong. I mean, even got there's, I've been watching what we do in the shadows. And one of the lead characters on that show is like the beard guy. Oh, really exciting to see him. And I love Camille nanjiani. I think great and everything. He's got his own style of humor that works. But it was something in, in the story in the writing, and perhaps even design that left me wanting you. Sure. But yeah, I had fun overall cool. So with that brings us to our briefing ops this, and then we'll do a little bit of production, and then we'll get into our meat potatoes of the of the show. So it starts with two flashbacks one in two thousand sixteen where we Chris Hemsworth, Liam Niessen. Who are am I be Aden's? I'm not gonna remember the names was h in high tea and the go-to Eiffel. I'm not going to remember it, but hearing member. We don't see the conclusion of it then flashback twenty years earlier, we're like in nineteen Ninety-three or some shit. Whatever we see young, atomic character who will be 'em. And she sees a tired as ranch. It'd be nineteen ninety nineteen ninety six ever, it is, she's them a baby tarantula in, and then the men in black shop, and then she doesn't get vape. Neuro lies and then deers later. She's like on the hunt. She marks all her scores or really great on FBI CIA. She wants to be the men in black. She finds a way see him by tracking aliens and Shelly bat and then finds her way in the men in black, that we all know in love from the original films and Thompson, who reprising her role from the third film. Yes. So who is? Oh, who's now the leader of this establishment, no more of the old establishment, there puts recruiter? Yeah. Recruiter, she goes in and her for science to go to London. She meets Chris Hemsworth through his under a sting mission, and meets with the scenes that we all saw the trailer. Good job, Corey, thanks and pens, baby. We meet it with a leasing who's high. See who is now the leader of the London branch, and then we see that behind is the new villain. And they're these space twins. And they've APR is people. And they're looking for this little crystal orb thing walking galaxies. Yeah. Super Bowl for anyone that watches, Ben ten alien axes, if you will. But yeah, there's fucking little space of macguffin. That's what does it do? What it do? We get Ponti who's Johnny's character who has to protect the real Queen, they, obviously die. And then they had this fun chasing, and Marrakesh because now the men in black are under suspect because after a awry escort fund mission that Chris Hemsworth and has Thompson, we're supposed to be doing their, the p the prisoner, escorting longest dis and says, men in black can be trusted. So they always eat think that there's a mole and they're trying to figure who the mole men in black is and the London branch and space and. Hilarity ensues. Relationship hazard, weapons ex-girlfriends and sue. And we finally get the point where we see the weapon that it's pretty much on. It's the sun inside of a gun and, yeah, it can make a grand cane, if you wanted to shout to Goldensohn but it's a sun gun at the very end. We find out that high tea Liamine since character at the end of the twenty sixteen event where they save the world. And they had this mural next to j k Wilson because they did it with only their win and their. Ripoll's atomised. In Chris Hemsworth. Pretty much can't really expect. Chris Hemsworth really, can't explain how they defeated the hive keep saying that one phrase with my with my series seventy atomised, which sounds like an atom west com book, or something like Bama six, and then they go to the here, we find out that the recent is taken over by the hive and hive is another part of space and the control people and shit like that they shoot the gun at the right moment, and then boom being a boom. It's rate and. And Chris Hemsworth becomes the new fucking leader of London branch, and then I'm gonna fly this car. I gotta go back to New York. Even though we know the relationship never work out because that's the cost being minute black credits we go no credits in SU well done that was like ten seconds. Right. And. Yeah. So that will lead us to the duck. Ali, this movie is directed by f Gary gray who's also done Negga negotiator man, apart, the Italian job, law-abiding citizen, fate of the furious and straight outta Compton. Producer is Laura is Laurie MacDonald who's the EP of peacemaker twister. Gladiator also produced in the animated series. Correct. The terminal series of unfortunate events, movie worked with parallel with Walter who is Walter parks, who has also produced the ring the island and all of the other might be movies, so too, on that one, they always worked together often screenplay by art marcum, and Matt Holloway who always worked together. They've also done iron man. Punish a war zone and transformers last night. So, you know, next bag characters based on men in black by. Men in black by Lowell Cunningham cast, Chris Hemsworth. Of course, he's done Thor locked hat adventures unseen cabin in the woods and Star Trek store. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Chris daddy, his his amazing performance and Star Trek. Moving on leeann Niessen from taken actually Schindler's, List, Tessa Thompson. Dear white people at the rag, Narok elation creed of not seen created. I need to do Emma Thomson. Of course, Harry Potter series, since insensibility saving Mr. banks Rebecca, Ferguson, the greatest show men missile impossible series and life. And then Kumaon commendable Camille, Camille, Nunziata nanjiani, Silicon Valley exotic upcoming and the eternal 's marvel bake that have him also just amazing stand up yen. Yeah. Larry and Lorant LeRon, LeRon Bush walkers from last ants. Twins for Spall from the ritual mashed. Sure just dance just dance video game. Nice nice may Spall plac-. Yes. Okay. The ritual, the big short Haifa's life pie Runtime, one hundred fifteen minutes released June fourteenth nineteen budget of one hundred and ten million dollars gross to one hundred two point two all the way to over the weekend. And a brunt. Tomatoes score of twenty four and sixty six as the odyssey audience score. So I deserve doing for. No, no. We've seen this a lot, though the summer. And it's it's like a trend and I, I didn't read the run to score reviews by guarantee you, it's chock filled with do anything for the fruit, choices, nothing brand new shit. But I'm like, yeah. Deserted be like no. You know what? I said. You know what would you say? It's not watchable because with that. No, I wouldn't say it's a twenty four. That's how the reviews go so reviews. It's like it's either. Yes or no? Yeah. And then pretty much twenty four percent said, yes. And that's because a lot of those like if the same reason I didn't love it. Yeah. Would would say, like that's the reason why not to watch it. Yeah. Now, you should watch it if you like many box to it's still. Looking at the numbers right now. I mean, it's still it's, it's makes money it's making money when he's gonna make their money, we may just potentially get a second one. The second one we will. I would say, like if you like the third movie if you actually watched it enjoyed through, which isn't super common, people, haven't watched it, and seen it, then nothing you would really like this. I, I to me would love like a TV show. Follow different was thinking while watching I mean like how do you become? Hi, t versus just. Oh or like you know, how do you get other names? There's obviously more than one person they Molly or. I was wondering that letters number my curiosity. So. Oh, oh, was the leader of the American branch IT is London, because our international? Yeah. International he's even higher. He's hot. Oh. Because he was saying he basically runs the whole your black. Oh, interesting. Interesting. So does that get us into favorite parts? Sure parts savored parts. The twins design. Design was so good to look at the fact that they could just reshape. Behead around them. I liked the what do you do in a in a public event? I like that little force field. We don't really explain how that works, but I was kinda like cool actions there. Maybe a car mealy knows a dangerous going on. So it's like we're gonna critic perimeter because it turns into procedural crime show, which I'm like, that's why would really work well in a fucking TV show. Yeah. But I really liked that fact. I thought it was a little weird when the pigeons like anyone could see that ship. But I was like Alex, cool. I get to see because it was like, how do you like worldwide events? How do you cover that up from the worst of the world? So. Yeah, I liked when they test the gun for the first time in the desert that was the low setting. Point one percent. I thought that was fun with that part too. I did like that. She didn't know immediately how to use that it wasn't like, hey, here's this plot device. Boom, here's how do you turn on Sangley? Hold on press. Start up like to me, there's a little bit of a logic there. She kind of put together. Yeah. Somebody with a beard. I thought it was kind of funny to think guys beard was Elian. I was like this, what this is just an alien little. Beards. Now I mean, do you know what Furby are the painting of Jane k? Yeah. Love that. That was. Yeah. Love that. So there was a little subtle nods to the dog being that walkway in the. But like that painting just made me like I was blue references. You're like, yeah. Also, Donald Glover being an alien, I knew day because I was like how else does he do all these things, so? Well, he's an alien, of course. So pretty much all the musicians. Yeah. In the world. Pretty much on musk in day. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Impersonate, way too many other singers, and actors, I, I liked the full circle moment with her in the, the blue feathery guy, even though I. Yeah, that's him. But I liked I still it's still paid off for me in the end because of the twist of it, meaning I'll kill anyone you want. Okay. Interesting Ponti using it on the twins. Oh, yeah. I really liked. Basically, anything with Lucas, I don't know why I was so tickled by him. Look as the big. Luke, as the big feathers, like Luca Luca thought, so maybe I just called the tarantula in. Yeah. The tarantula current you quite a race. I'm sorry. You're right. Human human death. Continue whiting the whole time that they were talking. Doing a feather would occasionally fall and I don't know why. But I just a tiny detailers, the mole of the movie. I really movies the mole. What's all this? When I got to theater now sat down. I had my fucking build your own fucking hot Kaz stubs thing, AMC, baby. Oh my God. I'm don. Movie move passed on, but just hearing the theme and then seeing the fawn. All right. This is a familiar place. And that was kind of nice. And that was really looking forward to. It's kinda like give me back into this world of, you know, the credits like their, their specific fawns the way to take me also like going to the world going into universe, and then coming into the scene. Like it's like I wanna feel like I mean brought into bigger world of the supposed to be familiar with men in black to me. I think it was really good with which is face similar to, like, John wick, take the world that, you know, but then underneath it, there's underbelly of aliens ship, which is I think, is the highlight of minute black films. Yes. Yeah. The different creatures that they're gonna kinda show us. Yeah. But also, how's it has it life work because I, I really like that, about blade to or it's like see this meat packing facility behind it. It's a club. Yeah. Having like ecstasy, and like the second one where the post office all aliens. The mail sorting machine is that guy with six arms and throw and shit like or in the third one 'cause he goes back to. The fifties. I think. Viagra wanna talk to you. They wanted to show you about a pill. Pila layer back of strange things in our world. Honestly. That's like, my, my favorite part of, of these movies is, is the like, like the beginning, reminding alien yeah, exactly, like the beginning of this movie is one of my favorite and also kind of towards the end where it's just like they like land, because Versi the thing, you're, like, of course, it's the flying car, and then it's landing and towers of thing. And I love all the guy. I love the Lord building in it. Yeah. Even though like it was so little, but I want one head. But it had. But the nuggets that were there, I was just like I did, what now I want more of that. I feel like I'm basically like the underground railroad type thing. Aliens. That's so cool anymore about that or the, the conversation that they have with see and how he's like, isn't it weird that we used to protect the world from alien scum? Now, it's we're protecting the aliens. Yeah. And I was like, more more more more of that. I would like some all plays out of my favorite scenes, and I know it was in the trailer. But I just I just love it when they reveal the car and she's like, oh yeah I'm gonna drive and she gets in on the wrong side. I know it's such an easy joke. But I was like, I appreciate it. Yeah. Like the silly exchange of Ponti having to be the middleman like, even though that has been played out a thousand times, I don't know why it just tickled. That chemistry work, but also him not actually being a middleman. She says you're stupid doofus. Right. Right. She didn't say that pretty much pretty much thought that so. Yeah. I trust you. Tweaked it enough. So refreshing take on that day, I was just going to say, again, like, anytime Tessa Thompson in Chris Hemsworth, were like in a scene together and not quite an action scene. But like a scene. So you know, I was very happy. I happen to see the two of them playing. I really liked Tessa Thompson's character concepts really liked the idea that someone finds their way into the minimum black and the want to be they're not recruited. It's change. Shift of the status quotes verts, the minimum black Lor and stuff like that. And I like to, like, yeah, I would really love this, like, really green hotheaded, you know, rookie that like is really good detective work and way into the. Way into the men in black led by a black woman. So I was gonna say. The nice thing about these two consistently black lead as through to me. I'm like, we'll Smith was like the he's the black guy, but it's more like like cool. It see how this street, smart guy goes well like this intergalactic world ver-, hyper intelligent, founder way. And yeah. And it's more like let's see how she does things and sees things differently than the rest of the status quo. A hundred percent. So I also just want to give shot at tests Thompson, who's become like one of my favorite actresses over the past four years. Yes. Everything she's done. And it was just a delight to see her in a slightly lighter role to which was kinda. He it's like it's pretty transformative. Like she. You completely by her character. And she has like the quirks still like somebody that might be like, maybe a little a social or like super hyper Nell, Jen has deals. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it was it was like, yeah. Your mail in this character. Are you not a Queen? I mean, yes, in the sense that. I love it. Awesome favorite characters and favored alien and favorite alien. Yeah. Molly is my favorite character. One hundred percent easy out the gates. And then my, my favorite alien was the twins. I just can't get over that design the like, cosmos, bodies that can shape shifting anything. Well, not. I guess they weren't the villains. Really quote on their tag for area. Yeah. And in the last minute, they almost become helpful protagonists, but then they get blown up by the actual villain. But they thought they had the coolest designed spoilers. Yeah. Yeah. That at the very top of this episode. There are going to give shout out to the guy from what we do in the shadows with the beard. So I love him. He's super funding the show, and he was or both. Because he has smaller Schaal right? Yeah. That's the thing they're pro. They're kind of like those two races have to be. About that. I was gonna like, why is this a wise? It may his, his chin says while they are they making a statement that under new most men's beards that they have. No, it's just. It's just like we'll have to make room for the body of. Yeah. Imagine how warned your chin is if you have a body on, on a hot summer day, it feel that beating and find out what his name is because I want to give them a proper shot up. Yeah. I think Molly is definitely my favorite character. You know, is hashtag relatable, but I found a secret underground. Your service. We're being recorded okay? Fingerprint fingertips burnt off. Favorite alien was probably also the twins like a really like they're designed. I thought I thought their abilities are really cool. How they utilize them was really cool when they started touching the ground the made into liquid. And then being. Yeah. We also when they were standing on the, the cliff and they just melted the earth. Oh, yeah. To make sure they couldn't get away travel. Yeah. Dirt. His name is k van Novak rate, very cool. The beard guy. I liked that. They could do that the liquid then back to solid. Instead, I liked it when they could dance. Yeah. Why they got cast for this role man excessively kind of it was very cool. I was like this jittery. It was popping lock, but it was just so like it was it was like they were. It was they were figuring out in the moment. Like they're watching it, it was a really cool moment to see them unfold of like, oh, this dance because some people were kind of pop logging around them, and it was like they're kind of figuring out and doing it was it was me. I liked it. It's like they were really, they were hit well. Mike real good jitterbug. Yeah. Is thompson's? Molly m m she's not Molly anymore and he's no longer Henry favorites is punny. He, he was so much fun. Yeah. Mike. I just every time like every joke. We're ended Mike. Yeah. It was. And they didn't use them too much. Right. We're just about just the radio and he saved the Davian technically. Yeah. He didn't. He also said it. I'm not gonna Queen. You were getting your busy getting choked. But I did it dagger. That was the. Yeah funny. Like they would like what when he cut out the shape of himself. Oh my. With the wave of like. Oh man. And then it just shatters trip over it. Yeah. If, if h if something more happened with them. He'd be my favorite because I liked the also that subversion with his character. Yeah. Why an Asian Gardner relies? That's fucking dough. Let's see what happens with that. But that'd be number two, but em for for me. She's she's, she's the audience. Surrogate, and also, it's like I'm rooting for most of the time. Yeah, my favorite aliens, actually, the one that explodes little furball 's. Oh, yeah. I love that. Like to me, look like a law for Kariba which you, you do like a Caterpillar. Yeah. But I, I loved it, and I was like, it's so cute look. And it's like it was just walking around and sniff on people, and then all of a sudden, she always really cute. I was like I saw in the back when I was like, I wanna see more of it. Let me give me give me closer. And then we got shelves, like we're gonna see a little bit more. What is it going to do? And then explodes is it reminds me I feel like that was a nod a subtle nod to that first scene where he's going to touch that gu-guy. He's do not touch him. Swallow, you whole German that first one guy who like like totally. Yeah. And he's gonna touch him and. And then they say, don't touch it anyway. But I was going to be a triple thing, where if she touched it was gonna be like, and then be giant mound of them. Oh, yeah. I was like little ones whereabout. I will say I did like how the high designed like the. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I like how giant Mazar was like, okay. Let's see. Because, you know, like in the first got Vincent, offering the giant Roach, man, which does not look like a fucking brutal because it's not leaving yet. But this is like what is this supposed to look like? And it's like it's now it just looks like this weird love crafty in horror, and I'm like, I'm cool with that was the last two concept of it. Yeah. Like this thing that can reach through the portal or whatever, and, like, yeah. Those control things like it doesn't actually take over, you just a simulate to DNA. I like that. To that. I mean it's cool but myself. Molly. Of course with a shoutout to I love Emma Thompson. I just want an eye or something like that, Cheryl. You're listening more anyone from this movie. Really? Yeah. Chris whatever alien basis. Yeah. I mean it's true Pontius, well, but I like shout out the orig- the originals like those guys like a bug looking guys that are like, hey, worms. They have arm. So I'm like, oh, okay. The worms they're talking about nearly ising. Neuro guy that neurons himself too many times. Yeah. Shadow. Talking about. No, no. Because you've gotten allies like twice. Like four times in all. Sounded like it was like recreational neuro ising. Oh, yes. Joe Rogan's about that shit. That, that is a favor. Uh-huh characters. Yeah. We into call grapes, the grapes. Jay gripes. So the doctor gripes, she's doctor would like shirt for you. Doctor, let me can I start? Sure. I didn't go to seven years of gripe school to be called, Mr. much, Mr.. Thank you very much for me. My big issue is kind of, like, is this writing in general? It's just like you get a lot of two-thirds of everything. You don't get a full the whole full picture. I wanted I wanted more of Tessa Thompson trying to figure out how to get into them in black and then like more like getting the curve of it. That's kind of part of my call. More was like it just happened so quickly. And I was like I was really excited about that aspect of it. But it was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, there it is like I don't expect it to be a recreation of the train simulation, where it's like, oh, there's the girl shoot the girl because that's the alien ship the best of the best, sir. I, I honestly wanted more of like her, like tiling telling a friend. And that would never see again or something that, like how she's trying to find them in everything she's crazy. And she's like, no, I know what I know like her to have the law, the, the belief, it's like, I'm gonna find the in black, and then her actually finding it to feel like, oh, I feel -ccomplish for that. Yeah. For sighting. With the guy at the call center, but not nearly but it was like touch. But yeah, I want like she, there was no one doubting her the frame, right? There was like accounting, probably under pressure to get to the horse. And then with h I wanted more of the you've changed I'm like, how did he change is Eva hive? Is this a red herring? And then I was one of these two Astles obviously, I would've loved to see what actually happened that night. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you being Murali lies doesn't mean you changed, like, an that's such a small shift. I was like, does he have a little bit of hive thing in him. It could be a little bit the blending of, like, hey, we don't have to be at war with the hive, you know. Yeah. The only thing that could change. Is that is a self of like arrogance and confidence that he didn't have because he didn't win day? And like he believes that he went there with just his wit and his series. Seven data miser, and that was it. And so from then on, he was like he probably I mean shit. The high was like your hotshot agent and like. Josh, we're gonna talk about, we're going to be acknowledged that his phone and watch went off. Went into because we're talking about them in black. You hearing. I think that's kind of where that came from is that he instilled this, like, different personality, in sense. Like you're, you're a hero. You're a hotshot kind of thing, so he starts acting as such. Gets unwound. The thing that I like with that. It's like he still thought his my he's like this decorated like men in black agent and operative t- vouchers for and he still gets the job done. This is the one time. He didn't. Yeah. And it was like I would have like, in order for me to have that, like, oh, you've changed feel drive a little bit better. It's like why don't he have survivor's guilt? Where it's like yeah. I did say the world but nothing's changed instead, he has this arrogance about, which is like, you know, it's par for the course of Chris Hemsworth, and you want this critical character, but it's kinda like you want the Nathan Fillion firefight words like I know what I'm doing. But also, like we didn't win the war the worst, it was on, like, I still can't trust you because you have that ban. Yeah. Well, he didn't know the where we missed that whole done. We did miss that because they had to, like, because it was a plot device. I feel like that's why we were robbed of some of the details up front, and some of the conversation because he like I got the impression they were partners in two thousand sixteen. Whatever. Yeah. And then since then high tea got moved to Heidi, but he stayed where he was because he can't messing up right? So I wanted to see more of like why he stayed where he was still able to form his Cup job? Well, like is, you know where like I didn't really get a sense of where his skill level was or what, you know what he was doing only they only kind of guests at that which if I agree that if they flush that out a little more it would have felt more solid, but they were more of just like I'm done covering up for you. More examples other than you like, knowing what everyone drink show us, I would've liked her to they've already showed her prowess with electron IX, even alien ones. Right. What if she gets? I mean, I was thinking about I was trying to get getaway where she could like macgyver, his neuro into demoralize her and to remember what happened that night or something because that's the concept. Yeah. Like, what if you know, because they talk about a whole bunch, like she realizes it, and then what if she gets him to start to realize it, and she goes, if I just, you know, mess with it. We're pops it open or whatever. And then can kind of Diener allies in the moment to have him. Remember exactly what happened that night. And then he goes, I know how to beat them. Could be a really cool. Yeah. He got one of the high but not the. Yeah. Something like that could've made him feel more like a important product character. Yeah. Because like towards that end he was kind of like this like their victim. Yes. Like participated and everything. But he gets a one whatever the one act of leadership. That's like you know what? That's changed it for me. Yeah. He's recommendation. I was like, okay whatever, I think, as well like we're talking about earlier. It's very safe like it didn't really build upon. To me more alien stuff, or like more like a world left, and it was more like aliens American aliens, and London aliens here. It's like, yeah, it wasn't like I was really excited about it like of like, oh, cool. It it's kinda like with Harry the wizard ING world, Harry Potter and you have a fantastic beasts where you have, like what is the French sector look like what is the, the UK look like they're all looking different? It's like, oh, cool. We're going to know exactly the same no matter where you are. I would have liked it where like Tessa Thompson has, as, as much information as a layman would have the men in black, like may were Seattle formation where the minute black, we protect the world from millions. And then they when she goes to London, it's like, no, that's not our directive. Here's the change. And like this is what we do. They barely do that with fungus, and they talk about that mission. And that's why see has its whole like, well, I don't want the mission data that you wish you had a dog all that stuff. It's like that little band. But it's like it doesn't give me enough precedent to feel like there's been. Evolution ever since the time of JFK mom. Yeah. And there is no real reason to watch this other than like less to see what two new characters, and that's I would say all the things I'll say for qualms like this whole film is stood upon held up by ten Thompson. Chris Hemsworth and like there's nothing. I'm not taking anything from them because they fucking hold his movie ends enjoyable wash because of them. But then there's a lot of things like you could have put any other to charisma great actors in this, and the script would have been different. There wasn't anything that really drove them to be like very unique and special. Yeah. I feel like Chris characters like he was very I don't know too many other actors that could pull that off the him going from like like stupid jokey like an like switch to super serious. And like emotional, on the that, that happened here, the yeah, I two meals you have to. 'cause, you know, a little tiny hammers. It's a little Philip tongue-in-cheek for amazing catch on my God. I didn't being. It's a little cheap for me. It's kinda like if the next move, Chris, Chris Evans with and he has a shield. It's an easy. I mean it works still in the doesn't take. I dig it. Not even notice it rebel notice feathers falling off a monster point. You look at the other things. No. Prettier. Go back to the story. Go ahead. One one specific thing. There's no reason for that subway to change. Oh, yeah. What's going really fast? The one isn't just stay that way. It looks very normal. And then it has to change. You're saying because they're already. Why did you change scene? Fine. Point doesn't hatching. Just came out. I. Came in and then you turn into an apple. Stay nice. They just want to show us that they could do it. Do they did with the car? Yeah. It was it was it was surprised Molly and it was our journey following her. Minding thing that made me. You know, the thing that made me roll, my eyes was the, the big Marrakesh Racine, and they land. And, and she goes, Noor lies ner lies in your life twice. And then they raise town. And then I was like. Timmy, the only way I justified that is because it was flying before, if you could just be some sort of hover bike, okay that. Yeah. Yeah, my, my justification for it is imagine like a regular chasing in a marketplace, where like you just throw off like buck shelves or you throw like, you know, shelving all stuff and other people to pick it up the rest of the and black afterlife, people down there, the cleanup crew to me, that's the only way that makes sense if they don't do that shit. Then I'm like this is the stupidest scene. They didn't do it because the whole point was that they were running away from the might be, and hopefully the men in black are like. At the same time, like there's a cleanup, and that's the only at someone could actually see her holding in Liam. Oh, yeah. You were saying something I think I accidentally, cut you off the story. I was going to destroy the ending was what really killed it? For me referred to the first ending where it is still open and still like, hey, let's, there's going to be Mormon black ventures. Get ready for that. This was a strange like I didn't know where it landed are we're going to see more or not gonna seem not even it felt a little messy to me in a sense of like all right now, you gotta go to Brooklyn and you're going back to the Oba which she's in the car, but also he's. Yeah. Staying but you're going, but you're also working together, but you're also Gary, you're you're going back to Brooklyn or you're not are you not are you staying is he saying did you get the motion order? So that was to me. I would have liked a little more like either. Let them walk away or have her say, I'm gonna stay here or whatever it is. Because let's be honest. If there's another one, they're going to work Taylor. Unless set it up. All there would be a big reunion. Or let's see where they are in the next to that go to. Fucking airport and they go to that locker and the only aside is fucking Tommy Jones, so anyway. No. But like. Yeah. A little also confused at that point, I was like, wait is she being like no, I'm not doing this or working in people say. Or the rings so many endings. Acted very well very funny so with Camille, but I just didn't know where did where did we land guys? Where are we have that problem? Really? I. Belonged in London. Yeah. He's the new head or high tear high H, or whatever to me what it felt like they couldn't. They couldn't commit to them. They didn't take the risk of ending with them apart, where it's yeah, he's a new high. Let's play it safe and end it with them both onscreen together. Yeah. Instead of committing to the story. I'll agree with that. That's, that's why couldn't be promoted because he would have to call it high C, and that's drink. Yeah. Holy, except that he's called agency. That's stupid. That's stupid. Did you hear that when he said that agency? Cool stupid. No, go ahead. I'll say more stories stuff. I kind of feel we could talk about more of discussion. I feel like the characters at the word the beginning our same cares. They happen at the end. Tessa Thompson just becomes a men in black. She doesn't learn the high Ville von von, Jesus language. She knows that there's a fucking but in her training, she learned ninety seven percent of the alien. But it doesn't really come in that much. You can talk to the space. They whatever people, she didn't talk to the hive supposed to. That's one of my qualms. They didn't know explain. Like, like I was saying with the bigger things like the mail people are all aliens, or whatever they the only thing is the tower that I got and I was like that. I even missed I was a little confused. More world building of like oh, and this is that actually I was I, I should've picked up immediately. But then I was a little. I was like scratch, my head a little bit when she went out into the field with him. I was like your field Asian already. Yeah. I didn't see any combat training. Yeah. Well, we didn't see it says it on the screen says, languages combat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they're trying to. Actually that was that. Little like scene was so short for reading that. I read they were trying to do because they were like they've seen it all in the first one. Let's get to the China also efficient as well as seeing all right fine except it because like she's proven all remarks, and we've already seen that, though. Yeah. Regards to the dress up, seeing one fucking life Ted's. That's true. She'd get an accepted FBI CIA, and the, the dress up seen. I think there's it's, it's more bread in your face. There's nothing wrong with the dress obscene. I don't like the camera they used because they use the same thing with the interviews in almost like a fish lent almost a wide angle. Yeah. And the Coen brothers use those in their dialogue scenes. They do it in a different offense though, like this was almost like, reflective of, like I thought of sounds of the lambs more, there's a Marilyn power is a female. Yeah. And it was more like she knows more than the males. No. And then like, but they're still in the. Power, and I was like this doesn't play as well as it does anything it just makes weird look wide as up in the camera's face. That's just my own mole. That's I actually funny enough. I actually thought that was like a need effect. I to me like if anything like for that, let's say, maybe the director wanted to make her look good. She isn't alien. And the he was, I think it was the context of the made me 'cause she the, the noisy. Cricket and. Yeah, it was like, no thanks dope gun. So like the powerful is right, but you know that, but she all dope gun and then, like, check powerful. It was. In fact, I'm sure I'm sure like another context, it would like I compare that almost to, like, Laura Croft tomb, raider when she gets to guns like. Oh, yeah. And then the movie. Like fuck. That's like. You're really good that you like guns the lens in bug. I mean, it's a director choice. But also back with carrot, like h like I knew that I realized, and that's what may be different. So that's where that's where I wanted that I wanted that to him for him to remember and go back to his old self and like I would have loved it could have all played out the same. But if he had known how to, like, I know how to do it, it would have redeemed his entire care wanted him to earn who because then he would have actually done the thing he's been I tell everyone is done for you. Ask the way I would have written it though is that like I've lost them once this is your thing, though. Yeah. Like a year, he did one leadership thing. We're saying has to be the one to like, but. Yeah. To me. It's like, that's what would been more. He's different because he's like I've done this because I'm Don damned. I'm highly decorated good if he had told her how to destroy him, and then she did it, and he like they were a team and they were both on board. I wanted to be a bit more involved with the end. Yeah. And it would've made it 'cause when he was like your promoted or whatever, and I was like, really like because hope you actually have changed. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, c. Agents set of like, oh, look at the parole finger just did. Of course, you're going to be the next height, h she goes, a guy from three years ago who died said you're just and also this guy who's who's a drink. He was still there. Do you have a qualm 'cause I? Yeah. I, I do have a call. My biggest one of the whole non of that. No. Bam and black bands. You read my notes, even black man. Next version. Now. I had a it's not that the jokes were bad. It was just that it was just can really recently. Joke after joke after joke and I it really bothered me and took me out of the film because I felt like every scene was just. Was another. It's like a, a bath os or so, I guess comedy. No. I know that it's a comedy, but even the first ones were comedies. Right. But they still had scenes with heart and with the with feeling that I felt I just felt they for me. It just took me out, where I was like, oh, it's another joke. It was like it was really. It's almost hard to be sincere at any moment. Yeah. Like the part where they're walking down the mountain before the star kids find them. Yeah. Like that's. That's that's really shitty. Is that if a pony didn't say a line, he when there were no reason for him to be in that scene? Yeah, but he has to say a line, and everything he says has to be funny. You says it's actually came out of nowhere. All of a sudden, even though I he's been with them, the but yeah felt a lot place. That's I hate. That's why like I hate about, like sometimes on samples where it's like yeah. There has to be one person. And I guarantee they can't say one thing that serious. But then when it's really serious, everyone else's not being serious. And those are like the tough thing that happened with, like I dunno mismanaged like development parts, like I think. Yeah. Because he says, like all those almost kind of sincere. The God damnit excuse me. The one the one line, give me the one secret give the one part where do I just feel for these characters? Yeah. I don't feel. I mean, unfortunately, it's like I, I know that it's a comedy. I know that it's I-. It's actually sci-fi action comedy. Oh, that's what's called. Wow. But it really just I there are several scenes that I was like, oh, another one. Oh. My biggest thing for this was that it felt like I wasn't sure what it wanted to do with the franchise and I felt it. All right. I like are you. You're not minute. Black four I can accept that because none of the characters internet. I get that. But you're not really building upon any previously told stories like I I really wanted and not just for fans service, but I really wanted like some some element from the previous movies to come into this one little bit more prominent. I wanted Tony shillue. That would have been I, I wanted something a bit more made, like something like obviously not like Will Smith appears at the end or anything like that. But, like something along those lines just tied a little more closely to the we would have made me really happy as if the, the what's her name from the first one showed up in some high ranking position. And we could just disappears the first movie I want to say your name is L. She was yet she was the. Yeah. Yeah. Great. I the one thing with that point as well. The thing I think they really driven into drama do the whole like I don't have a pet. I don't have love life. I'm perfect for this place. And at the very end Thompsons like now, you know, the cost of being men in black, and I was like. Good you and me in this movie, although I love him Thomson. What if she was like the head of them? I b I mean why wasn't she? Yeah. That's I mean, that's what you do with, like, when you had this legacy of movies that are pretty highly knew that there was doing something was going on strange thing foot. So maybe some bonding issues, right? Not issues. But opportunities us opportunities for the two characters would have been nice not. But I that's what I want. I want I want to be like, okay, you establish this movie with three movies, but then we're kind of like, sidestepping the entire I would've liked to suffer said, I would've I would've liked if in that head room where all the top agents are talking about the briefing in alien was one of them. Why can be an operative? Yeah. And it's like also like going to that point of expanding. All like why isn't one of the worms and like a major operative wiser Frank was a Franco Francis. Frank Frank become one. Why isn't because I think aliens can't be camp. The briefings. Maybe like why isn't like I would have to me like put a Roach in there. Like I remember that from the first one, it's like, and they're now we have peace with them, because we fucking or put that weird fucking plant monster of year from the practice Bassey's. Yeah. More like oh like you may not have to watch the last one to know that this is important. But if you do you know that there's alien cooperation between because every talk about it. We don't I mean it seems like Frank's work in there now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Super pale guy from that. He worked within the first one might be that guy now cleaned up and has job. Yeah. For me. I didn't like the design of the hive alien. It was just really. Yeah. Boring in comparison to all the other aliens that men in black has given us for the final. For any alien. They're usually they're usually pretty bright pretty unique. I mean, look at any any alien in the first one when he's I walk in the floor, they're kind of a little more cartoon out there, almost tattoo any. Yeah. And it's this really cool aesthetic of this really vibrant and alive kind of thing. And it just felt like it was like, well, here's a bunch of gray that has been. He's a big reason why I liked it. Reminded me of the Roach. And how monstrous the wrote. Yes, even that design was even a little more defined than this. And I get that. It's supposed to be the thing that can transform into stuff, but sore, the scroll. And like I guess I just didn't really I, I had trouble of seeing what was going. Oh, it was like the bad guy. We don't even really encountered until that very unseen. Yeah. That's a whole. I also like there's no I mean, there's no impending doom shape Shifter's, or whatever they're actually call forget, the hive star star kids, if they're not the villains, like. Like you're not really developing any kind of like thread. And how quickly that scene went to. There was nothing really happens in that scene just shoot him the thing she falls in there and then she gets pulled back out. And that's at the end wished that star kids and the hive monster could have had some kind of interaction just understand. How powerful the hive is. Why they're really excited for second. I was like, oh shit. She's going through the portal. Is it gonna end up somewhere cool and go after her? Yep. That whole fight was very, very anti. Climactic anti-climactic trying to search for word from the moment where star kids melted side. Where circuits melted cliffside up until like through like Ono is high tea like that all felt kind of silly to me, because I felt like an altercation between star kids in high tea could have happened on the cliff, and that high tea like could've come, there Cruces, something, maybe. He does something crazy, like maybe they give him the weapon again, and they're about to blow his cover, and he just shoots him with it or something. Yeah. Why don't you pull in Washington? Even goes a little hive and they know but then the agents come after the fact and he can, like cover it too well for that. Out here. My last, call is, and this is a baggage one too much CGI. The thing. I like about the other men in black lot of prosthetics lot of makeup back. Ethical even the villain in three who's played by Jemaine Clement is all makeup. Yeah. And there's an element to that, that I look forward to in men in black films. I don't think we got. I think almost all the. There's fun with, with that to the Caribbean, scum. Could have been a thing the guy that they're playing poker with something there were a lot of I mean, I feel like most of the press that aliens were in the club, and it was an even then it was like humans dressing, like alien guys playing cards with this. They should have been processed. I've seen it's like I've seen more live things Halloween. So that dancers, I felt that took a little bit out for me and it was just kind of I it's baggage stuff like CGI to, to an extent. But at one point, I started like yeah. Everything looks there. So I can't tell you features on any of the aliens. We saw in this film not not to rebut the whole thing, monster design, look. But I remember the first one, I remember why I'm like, why did I feel like I really needed to have a high looking thing or whatever the fuck was because remember the first one where they're at the border where the fucking smuggling, whatever? Yeah. Lanky in the one do that explodes. He's creepy it. Yeah. But I think that was missing with this. There's nothing that actually looked like a terrifying monster. I agree with you. I think it should have obviously looked very terrifying scary. But I would've liked something a little more for me. It was like the release. All finally scary monster. I could oh something. They could've based it off of. There's the thing called a demagogue demagogy. No, I was reading today. A blue ring octopus. Have you seen those one of the most deadliest? There's no anti-venom for Anton for this Fritz bite, rarely bites, but it, it has the same thing. Same like eight legs. Right. But what happens is when it hits the light, sometimes it bounces off, and it looks like these blue like ring rings, all over their body and cooling, cool. Just a little detail to give me something else out to see what limbs are moving and stuff in the little CG projection, when they're like, you know, the famous and every movie. Yeah, it was like read it was like, oh, this is like super colorful, and it was Brown, and I think I think the issue is when you see the twins and which we. Yeah. So good. That you like, okay this is the high they look freaking dope. And then at the end of. You're kinda letdown. We gotta blob. Graced the blob doesn't do like turning into fucking awesome. Awesome showed up. It was like. Deadlier us, I had a little more. Hi. Really, it's a it's a tiny detail that bothered me. That shouldn't. So the whole thing I mean, Emma Thompson says this is all you wear is men in black attire ever. And then we cut to Chris Hemsworth, and he is not which is fine. Like, I think it suits his character and doing this kind of, but I would have liked to save that until the island so that, that, that line where she's like he's a he's not wearing hockey. Wearing pink. A little more because it's the first time you see any of them, not in. That's very that's a little thing. That was also, I do you want to point out that was actually I really did like that line. A lot. Yeah. Hockey, Pat saying no. Always. But it just her at the end like a throwaway land of the very Ed bring pink trousers and notice the yet. And then I was like, wait. He's osy. Oh, yes. He can pull it off with that whole scene with Rizza alike. Almost these two characters should have their own movie, risi's great like every make through it. H is character like how the whole thing like he's like naturalize he's savior, but it's also on live. But also like. Sees that thing. His love thing. He has all these friends. He's like Han solo wish character movie. Yeah. Thompson like I'm going to try to find my way into the men black, all movie, they're all movies, and then two sequel and then they both were together, and then you make us. Universe. And then we have TV show, h plus the plot navigator. H was the plot navigator he had to have conveniently known every one for that every place. They went. They obviously they went there, because they knew somebody halen's like about exploded. Something remembered one of my favorite parts and it's win. Kidding is when he takes his tentacles off his body. No. That was your favorite part. Good detail. It was a good detail. I mean, does anyone wanna see the outline of Chris, Sean? Maybe. But when Ponti gets out of the jar then he runs and she's like, oh my God. You're so fast. So quick, like hearing her talk to it. Talk to he was like I think she killed up. Yeah. She's hard to read any can't quite tell like what she's thinking or what she might be like, do next, like bright, Wendy. I see her. She guy. A very job of the Huddy. Cool could have played. Kill there would have been disappointed like I would love for her to be a like if this was a serious. She'd be like. And then she's the one that shot the gun. She's like, what's his face is character and deadwood. Yes, I'm gonna say, yes. Yeah. I don't know either the guy who is in elbow. Same ending from number one film. I wanted to Geeta vertu show again and shoot the gun. It'd be like this thing all she wouldn't become an agent. His hand. Why not why not have some fucking pleasures of like, hey, remember? I hate it that I can't remember the name because I. Yeah. In Maxine McShane. Macshane to me, like if it was a show, she would be like that character go always kind of, they're kind of antagonist. Not really. She's a presence, and you feel her presence. She's gang Lord. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, cool. Bring us to a ratings readings. Can you remind us the breakdown goes first? What's your rating? Mine is a four point one, four point one. It was entertaining. I would watch it again, for sure probably wouldn't go to the theater for it. But I would this would be something. I'd probably watch multiple times. Now it's Utah. Gotta decide Josh. I voted for you. Is that what you mean who voted for? I've heard Frawley Josh voted for Tom and I'll eat voted for Josh. And then I me. Me for me. So you have to us for next. We're three here we go. Done the three you. Okay. So no. Josh going, I. Yeah. Joint five. What was your score? Four put one really three point five. Yeah. Three point five. Cool mine's three point seven. I really I had a lot of fun as yourself. It might happen. I had a lot of fun with this in idea agree with all the negative points. But to me, it was just like just the joy of Chris Hemsworth, and Thompson was enough to keep me super engaged. They're fun, Tom gives it a three kidding. Go ahead. When's the three? Yeah. One day just keep believing you'll get their jobs. You'll be you'll get. For me it was a it was a three point five, but. Doc, Tessa saved it testing Chris, their chemistry bumps it to three point seven say it was going to be three point five. But after this, it's now a two point five. Saying that actually because there was a lot, obviously that I would've loved to get more of I would have liked to. But maybe it'll be answered in the second film, the music was all there. The it was a men in black film. I missed the Pacific stuff like that. But I do I wanna see the two of them on another adventure one hundred percent better. Yes, I think perfectly summed up thing is what you said, more more. I want more. I want to see a godfather to type scenario where like we get like a dope. Second movie, and may not be a comedy. So Tom is the, the ground. Quick anyway. As always. Well, it's like mine's drastically a little different than everybody else's. But, like there was some parts pre board on very much like get on with it on with this is one minute long dark, Phoenix. Oh. Get on with it like in. So there's some parts like I could care less about what's going with the characters I care less. What's going on in the story? And like the whole reveals I'm like it's one of the other. So it's like, are you gonna shock me, you're not gonna shock me and the funny thing is you heard me say I'd watch it multiple times. That's kind of one of the reasons why would their parts that I didn't really care about where I'm like, I ain't going backward right now. I have a bathroom break during this part that I don't care about as much and then come back in for the parts. I like that's why I could watch it multiple times to me. I call the background TV shows Packer movies where it's like we're playing a game and are not paying attention to it, but then I'd like for me for hiring movie. I'd like to like, no shut up. We're watching the movie during this movie, and I wouldn't be mad you probably have anymore porn to say than this movie does feel about this movie how I felt about Aladdin kind of. Yeah. Gave the same rating. I did. Well, I gave this the same ring as Phoenix. Yeah. But with dark Phoenix, actually, was not bored throughout the movie. Like there was like, I wanna see what happens. This may be stupid seen one. What happens versus crying by the opposite effect. Yeah. For me. I was like, I wanna see where this too with these things. Do this was like, yeah. We get it. He's going to be funny and she's gonna be this. And this is going to happen that's going to happen. There was a lot of predictability for me. It was the opposite. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of dark Phoenix that I was like Google. But. I think it's I we like Thomson. Maybe it wasn't good place when I was watching it or something doesn't have. I know it affects me but it's like it doesn't like save a movie. Yeah. Threes, diving low can for you three no starpower Cam for you, can if I see a gravitas performance. Yeah. For me threes, or like enjoyed for like purchase. Maybe five as masterpiece for me. It's like, hey go watch the movie here wash again. I mean if I'm doing like a, like a run through of MIB, if you want to. Me. I'll go watch. It. I won't pay for your ticket Tom asking for date. Yes. So we've done it. As he would say, please slip and slide into his dams into my nice 'cause I'm carpet all DM's well, well and that leads us to goodbye. Everybody home. Thank you so much for listening. 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Revisited: Dev Hynes (Blood Orange) with Beverly Glenn-Copeland

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Revisited: Dev Hynes (Blood Orange) with Beverly Glenn-Copeland

"What's up guys Elliot here on this week show were re airing one of our favorite episode of the year so far featuring blood oranges deb Heinz in conversation with Beverly Glenn Copeland Deaf has been very busy. He's recently scored Luca Guate- Nino's we are who we are as well as Jia Coppola's mainstream and just dropped a remix for borderline by Tame Impala who you heard on the show just a couple of weeks ago in conversation with Caribou. Beverly Glenn Copeland has just released an incredible career spanning compilation called transmissions the music of Beverly Glenn Copeland. It is absolutely not to be missed one of the best of the year as this conversation which you're about to hear in its entirety. This is Carrie Brownstein. This is Darren else got the right here. Truck Co. quest for enormous. All of your when Yosef Mary. Higham Hang. You're listening to the talk house podcasts. Is Up I'm your host Elliott Einhorn. Welcome back to the Talk House podcast joined in our Brooklyn Studio by NFL senior editor. Thanks for joining us back on the show. Thanks for having me this is such a cool episode it features Davonte Hines Aka Blood Orange in conversation with Beverly Glenn Copeland it is not often that Shostakovich K Soul American rock west African music and hip hop are brought up in the same talk house conversation. But with these two genre defying artists, it makes perfect sense at all those would come into play Glenn Endeavor. Are Big fans of each other's music and were really psyched. At the chance to meet in person and what better context for that than a talk house podcast they sat down at Hook and fade studios while Glenn was in town just a few expect. Yeah. Glen had actually just performed a sold out show at Moma ps one dollars a few days before they talked and they've got the chance to be there with he calls her tests alcohol her the wonderful actress Tessa Thompson Tessa was so taken with Glenn that she came along and hung out for his talk with Dev and close listeners you might actually hear her laughing a couple times throughout the talk now. says. The London born New York based left-field R&B Slash Art pop artist who you probably know as blood orange. You may also know his work as a producer and songwriter with acts like Salon Sky Ferreira Carly Rae Jepsen F K twigs high, and the elusive Shantou's herself Mariah Carey. Boom. He has collaborated with some of the best deb's lacework is the brilliant score to the film clean and slim that was of course. Written by the Emmy winning writer Lena Waif and directed by grammy-winning Director Melina Matt soukous parenthetically those of you listeners who happen to follow me on instagram. We'll know that this was my favorite score of the year just so good a funny story, Anne Glenn Arrived To the studio few minutes early, and just sat listening rapturously to the Queen. Slim Soundtrack on the big studio speakers until Dev arrived in their talk started. He was very taken with it. As you'll hear, mentioned the talk, the most recent official blood orange release was angels Paul's a mix tape that he released back in October Angels Paul serves as an addendum to the fourth blood orange album, Negro Swan, which came out the year before Dev called a quote, an exploration into his own and many types of black depression and honest look at the corners of black existence and the ongoing anxieties of people of color from angels pulse. Here's a clip of. It simply must be noted as well that Deva's fantastic cellist dancer and most recently video director he directed one of my favorite videos of last year that was for his Song Benso but just last October he directed becks video uneventful days which featured Cameos from the affirmation Tessa Thompson as well as Evan Rachel Wood and all a shock it is there anything this man can't? Think. So he's unstoppable now any I'm so glad that you shared that quote from Dev earlier discussing as he puts it, the ongoing anxieties of queer slash people of color that is certainly something that could have been intimate to the experience of being Glenn Copeland. Glenn is a Trans Black Man who was born in Philadelphia but has opted to spend his life in small town Canada he currently resides in Sackville a tiny town in the middle of nowhere New Brunswick, and here's one of the many fascinating things about Glenn Story. While he was previously best known for his work as a composer for sesame street, as well as the Canadian kids show Mr Dress up a recent Japanese reissue of the previously mostly unknown nineteen, eighty, six album keyboard fantasies has shown his work to a brand new generation who have now gone back and embraced his past catalogue, which is a genre smashing amalgam of new age, classical folk, and so much more. It's been really cool to see some younger artists really get behind him and get Glenn's name out into the world I'm thinking Caribou TB on the Radio Forte, and there's actually a new film that will maybe bring his work to even more people call keyboard fantasies, the beverly. Glenn Copeland Story on top of that Glen just released a new record last year called primal prayer and on. His current tour has already been playing new unreleased music. So the man is truly on a roll, Yeah Not Torres actually his first and the US at the age of seventy four. Can you imagine a lifetime of fantastic work and finally being discovered in your seventies getting the appreciation? Deserve. The whole type it's truly wild it so is and he's just taking it in stride. So wonderfully. Listeners I wanNA share a clip of a song from his new album primal prayer. This is La. Vita. Really. Really really interesting work and just so beautiful. Glennon devs conversation takes a lot including discovering deep parts of themselves via traveling away from their home countries. They talk about how the ECLECTIC musical tastes of their families have informed their own work they get into their songwriting processes and we get to hear the story behind Glen Seminal work. Keyboard fantasies. We also get to hear about the importance of nature and its role in their music depth talks about just how recently he began to honor music as the foundation of his creativity and we also hear the trick that Glenn's mother used to in-utero turned him into a musician she rotate I'd stare at. Hello Glen, how're you doing today I'm doing really well, it's such a such a pleasure to meet you and I feel exactly the same. So here we go. Thank you. First of I really really enjoyed your show the other night thinking that was incredible. I didn't really know what to expect I didn't know what would happen tests were lucky to catch the documentary beforehand. Yes, which was so great informative and. Senior in the band abandoned credible. This is what I think to. You I mean all of all of on stage that was Mazda costs I'll tell them. Be Very honored to know that. Thank you. I will relay that how did you feel about the Scher I had a blast co yeah. No total fun been sometimes you don't know of anybody else. Scared of indulgent but you try to stay tuned in best you can to your audience, but the audience was so responsive. So caring. So loving really I mean it's impossible not to have had a wonderful time there a friend of surfing very interested in which is either this it's an artist that listen to. That feel like you're the person in the world this man you know in a way that feels so personal to you and this something. So magical than when all those people come to one place and have extremely personal moment shed and and that's what it is what it felt like I'm really glad about that. So now I'm going to tell you about my experience. Have you. Okay so I really picky and choosy me sorry to say that but I don't listen to music by large. I've lived in silence to my life after many years of being immersed ten hours a day. Didn't stop to think about the fact that I needed silence I. Didn't think about it the need I just live in silence. And every once in a while, something will come through then I will listen to their deeply. Everyday for two years easily. And I might be to three things every day for two years and then. After, a while it's like I've snow that I'm studying it. It's that it's it's touching my heart. So deeply right Anyway. So my wonderful Majer Coburn said I would introduce you to you know some people that I just went? No. No, I don't know anyone not known on and US very insistent. He said, I just want you to listen to this and he sent me a link of one of your videos. I flipped out oh. My God. I flipped out. And I just said. Okay We like we like we. WanNa meet this I the and I've just been in here. You know before you arrived listening to this new music. And I mean for me this is music that I listen to. This is going to be my new on constant repeat every day it's just that profound. It's such an honor. Thank you. You know I'm not trying to honor you I'm just telling you truth but if it honors you then fabulous. Thank you so much well, no just incredible deaf what I just experienced in this room. Thanks. Speechless really I feel so happy to have had somebody insist. About you For my benefit anyway. So there we go. Thank you. Go from the. Oh you in New York for. Fifty more minutes. Well I came on I think it was Saturday. And It's just been one thing after another for you know the days and you. Then I'm gone. Act Canada. Do you like nuke? No. I. Like the people I meet though. Yes yes. I've met incredible people since I've been here I'm loving every bit of it. All out to the woods I would. Wear. A Wig. Do via. The moment I'm living in a small town called Sackville, which is only about seven miles from the border with Nova, Scotia Right. It's a little isthmus, it narrows down. So on the one side, we have the Bay of Fundy with the highest tides in the world, which is the ocean and on the other side of the ocean. Little towns it's level so could disappear at any moment. How long have you lived the very short time I'm very much a Roma, my mother used to keep a a telephone book that was just my addresses well, because I would move every year. Yeah. I still do the same thing. I've been living there for the last three years because my wife decided that she wanted to attend the university that was there. And though the two of us, both normally live in the woods was much as possible usually all the time. She said I. Don't want to live in the woods I want to be able to walk to the university I said okay. So we bought a little piece of property a little house. It had thirteen huge trees in the backyard. The best apples every taste. And then we went please let that helps be habitable. Who is Visited the backup and I wanted to buy based on the pack. Ankles I. I. Mean we went in the House on yes it was possible to live in it so. Where do you think that affinity for nature came from? Where did you grow up around nature? Yes. Except for the first three years of my life. Of always had access to wildness. And by the time I was. Twelve my parents had purchased a property that abutted a wild wild wild city park that wasn't a city park was city woods. Like miles of see woods with deer and wild animals in it. And our property went down into that. So I would come home from school. The first thing I would do is I'd run the woods. Just through the woods, my money would be going like. But she wasn't there you to. Run to. Most of my life I've done. Yeah. Little bit you. Where did you grow up? I grew up in east London mainly in the a Place Code Essex Essex County. which actually has forced Interest relationship with? Nature and forestry. Tell me about think it's IT'S A it's a conflict because I'm a city boy. Okay I'm. I don't kid myself about I'm I'm a city boy but I do have a fantasy pardon. My brain involves nature and forestry like when you just said that I reminded me off to school that would be moving so we would go to. A place called forest spend as many hours as we can running around. But then we always somewhat pooled. Scenes you left it's like a very boring back into city life. So I think I still have the my head way like the idea of running off into that for a show. I listen to your music though I do not hear the city. Interested here, translation of earth. Totally music is has always been I mean it's a Cliche, but it's true. One is. Escapism. Is always the path to. Escape where I was as a child and and now. Say People that I make music the exact same way. I. Did when I was twelve how did you do? It was. Behind closed deals I mean I guess the the Practical Way I've made as change food is, but essentially, it's always just been by myself in my bedroom. Thinking about the place I wanted to be and what that that place sounds like to me. And I pretty much always have it mapped out if you to envision it as a house? Have the outside belts in my head's in from there I just. I don't WanNa. Say It's like easy 'cause sometimes, it could be like half now or could be ten years but I know the outcome and some just somewhat connected the dots to match that image in my mind. That's amazing. We couldn't be less alike. It's quite wonderful. What's your? which a process I know The night you mentioned she was really interesting to me about how you feel like it flows the Tell me about that. I have no image of anything. I'll be busy doing some mundane aspects of life and something comes through. All of a sudden. And no idea. Where it's meant to go I just Russian put it down. After I've finished putting it down. I look at it and I don't know what it is. And I can barely play back row. Now. Wouldn't you say that's pretty much opposite it's it's very opposite. I love that good opposites attract. There you go. Yeah. I, love the so beautiful meet. Well however, it is that you do it spread around. I really loved the song e play Dhs. That was for your anniversary harbor. My Wife's songs from my wife. I'm glad you liked that I really love that. Can you explain for people that haven't? Oh okay. So Every year I write. And I mean irate. Add of some kind. A poem or a song or poem that turns into a song here very quickly. I'm usually on the day of my wife's birthday usually in the morning when I go. I wake very early. My wife needs more sleep in the morning, the ninety which has saved my backside many times. So. Do that in this particular year I went to do that says it was her birthday and this thing came through the was. Afterwards I realised this I mean I kind of explained it with humor that the universe was going. My good grief we need to get involved here is worthy of more than these cities. Up. Anyway. So that that came through and it's it's holds such beautiful piece. I just I was flawed flawed by the this it's interesting because people say that a lot and I I I think it's because what's being expressed there is what we feel when we truly appreciate a person that's hanging in with us. Yeah. I don't think it's specific to me by any chance. I think it's very universal if you really care for somebody. Through the thick and thins of it this not the flush of I love and sex and all the rest of that, which is all wonderful. But Lord, there's a lot of work has to go into making a relationship. Yes. Then a lot of understanding a lot of making room for everybody's fault lines. Yes. I think that's why people really. Feel, something from that because. People have been there. You know most people in the in that room have been deeply in love at some point in their lives. Deeply, loving in love sound kind of whatever. But you know what I mean. He really comes through in that base it was like a beacon of light. Show through. Really. Felt that refill. How steady do you make music overwrite words? I never write words. First neck. I'm not a poet musical always come to me I every once in a while I'll get a fraction of a phrase. Comes with whatever's coming through but then I have to sit and say, what is this music talking about? This very limited. You know I'm very limited in my own spectrum is usually talking thing. I feel the same way. Very interesting. Alone, yeah. He put it like this. He said. I think we only have two songs. Love. I really love that. Right on the money really hit. Yet you steady making music constantly all this. I mean constantly doesn't mean like you I don't go into the studio with an intention. Although I have done that when I said that I was going to write something that honored something in particular but I still have to wait for it and I say that, but then I wait. Until the universe onside about it and I'm always writing. I'm always translating. I'll be translating I. Know One day I'll be translating in the middle of translated just drop dead that'll be it. I mean, I hope for a death like that except to say goodbye to everybody I you know what a wonderful time ahead with the mall and how much I love them and all that stuff but. We don't want that to go on too long. Yeah. I think that's one thing maybe we have in common. I don't ever start anything with intention except full, maybe scoring work would. Have to do that. my of music that image that place that comes to me is never really chosen. Might be more like than I realize. Yeah. Yeah, it's never premeditated. You know most of my best friends are visual artists and most of them are profound visual artists and most of them are old like me. They all say the same thing that I say. They say I mean I look at their worksite flip out because I'm. Visual art is the most important art to me other than what I do, but it's not the most important art form in some ways. Always said if I had to choose between my ears and my eyes cheese, my is because my head is full of music anyway and I need to see beauty. Anywhere, my my friends a look at a piece and artist go. Gosh we're. Tell me about this Nagel. Say Same Anything Oh this just came. This was. Thing to do this. That I had worked really hard to have the skills to be able to translate it right right? Yeah. When when they all started to say that? I went. Okay I get it. So. That's because that's how I've been feeling and I realized Yep. Okay tell me something exciting about yourself. Myself. Or something that you know that you wanna share tell me something he's citing from your childhood. Tell me something that made an impact on you other than the woods around how you create or what you create. Okay. Here's one thing is that I've always seen. Sound and music as Something that's in me if you like breathing. It's a thing that I've always. been the for me to survive. But just like breathing it's something that Community. This you can practice thinking them breathing but. It's been something that. For most of my life I wouldn't think about. Because it was. The thing that is. Helping me exists and and I think. Hasn't been till. If I'm honest maybe like the last. Five years. That it's been something that. I would actually look into and re think about. The always be of. Interest in my life and things that. Infuse about and. And doing create. But those a real. Moment we feel like lightning I suddenly realized that all of those things stemmed from music. Like all everything, all those different corners they wouldn't be there without that. A. Beginning coal. That was. Music I feel like once I. Had that realization it was like A. UNLOCKING OF A. Little. World of. Possibilities. In my life. And I'm still exploring what possibilities 'cause. It's like I've. I've realized what the? What the Rock is that's that can keep. Kind of. Keep, my feet on the ground. I can always come back can go and fly off to these different corners but I know where the the home is. Okay Tell me about some of the flights. Well. Another thing that's was interesting is. What you said is The visual part. I'm very inspired visually. Way More than. Sounds Oh way. So visual. You know it's interesting because that's what grab me about when I when I was introduced, you're busy because it was a visual thing. So I'm listening to this incredible music and I'm watching these visuals that are like. Dude things like this like. Out of this world. That's interesting. Of course that makes total sense I love that you picked up on that. The Not though when you think about. That okay. Well, thank you for telling me that. That connected a couple of dots right there for me. How Long Did Keyword fancies. Take to. To have come through yeah from beginning. Maybe Like a just a child probably bad nine ten eleven months. The the idea for it. He you at once or did you not realize maybe till? Later, wasn't there was no you think in terms of ideas for right. Yeah know. That was. Got This computer. And I turned it on off the bat we. I went. DX had always sounds a little. Computer was able to coordinate all those sounds right and make and I just went beserk. Yeah I just went I would hear Xango. Start you know play it I'd I'd start doing something other than. And then because I was playing with that sounds something would come through for that sound and layers and layers and layers and layers and layers would come through. I, write in very short. Form Okay. So thysie I right I hear because you know I mean the great European masters. Some of them heard very, you know like a few for instance like so this this Maui. Is a short form relative and but then how can I turn that male of the? How can I make that melody play over itself? You know, and then it becomes a whole this harmony in Buffalo. But by and large most of I think probably most of the big symphonies and stuff. have. Many ideas that are interrelated. And then and then those ideas. sussed out right. Just get. Expended well, the universe sends me exactly four bars. You know or maybe eight bars of something very short forms but then it sends fifty two melodies to go on top of it. As a slight exaggeration, but easily, they'll send sixteen melody. On top of that four bars and what happens for me is that I have to go. Like all that on that on that on that after a while I've got they literally you know ten maladies and then I have to go wait a minute. Some of these are really important in some of these are not really. Again, keep all the kids. Kick you. So that I have to win map. So that's basically yeah. That's how that works for me. It just came flying through. Again this time. But mostly, it was because I had a tool and so then things that I couldn't have heard. Yeah. I could suddenly here that got in you. He can't. You know we're all creative beings all of us. And whatever it is we're meant to do. We're all created beings because we're all part of the University University of creative entity. and. We're we're part of that. So we're creative entities. Every, single person. So each of these, totally unique and creative in our own ways in meant to offer something the whole that only we can offer and there's no two people that are the same. To any things that are the same yeah. and. So it's all precious. Each person is precious. Each each everything is precious. Really. Well Anyway. So here in a small and small forms. And and so I get stuff. That's you know that's so my wavelength. And my wavelength short. There you go. Know. Ensure that you know. Stuff that got sent to. Shostakovich. Long. She. You said You your dad was a teacher. And would practice Cusco Piano. was some of his favorite pieces and then maybe heels. Chopin etudes. He loved by. Beethoven I've never been doing. Thank you very much except certain pieces which are beyond the Pale it's exactly exactly I've had. Recently about pizza ever. Yeah. My father was brilliant pianist. And he p played for his own pleasure. Yeah. But that was five six hours a day. and. They played a lot of Beethoven played. A Lot. Of Chopin. And and other things. debussy. Yeah Yes some Bach. got. ABC. A painter in sound exactly. Yeah. Oh. I loved ABC. Yeah, and reveal to the. Oh. So now I know I'm starting to understand why like your music Okay so Yeah. So he was he was my radio you know. You is just a he's an incredible guy. I adored my father I, do it my mother to remove it was a good pianist. Well, she could play anything. Wow. Except for classical music and I would sit beside her and she would she would play things we sing together and stuff. And she told me once you know when she with me in the last years of her life for the last five years of four four years of her life she lived with me and my home. And she told me that when I was in Utero that she actually played an hour day to make me into a musician Cole my God. Wow. So I was listening to the. Real cooling. Soundtrack. For. Out. That's beautiful. It is. Tell me more about you. See. What do I want to know about you? I want to know about your here this bbq. Thank you. Is. Actually. Kind of interesting in which relates to my parents is My mom is from Guyana. Yes. my dad's from the. But really to my i. Some years ago went to Guyana to. See where my mom and I never met any of my grandparents and. Eventually met my grandfather. and has this kind of weird. Experience where your trove out. and. Ankle, who then was taken me around he is so funny, he would like. Just kind of stop off somewhere not gonNA do. But he wouldn't tell you just like I'm just going to here for second. Do some will come out. Angry it'd been disrupted looking around. Kind of like you know it's like some jungle wasn't in Maine says it was like pretty out. I'd be a little scared and has done as to what's happening because. We know Hamill, these people. Will. He This is your uncle. Okay. And so that happened a lot. And there was one Reginald. WHO's an ongoing? He had these long. These locks. Simmons mind but they were like really long flowing they. I took a picture of him. This whole time I was taking pictures sit in the back to my mother he's in London. And I. Son's picture. And who she like who is that? That's Your brother. She's she's like, oh, he shaved heads Bossom I. So him and he looked very very similar to me, and there's a few people like that in guy and you know it was the first time. For these timeout say that I was in a place. where? Not just looks when it wasn't just like people. Like me, but it was like temperament. Complete. Yeah keep talking. About it wasn't anything I thought I hadn't experienced. Just gone used to what life wasn't how it was, but the temperament was so specific. and. and. One is modes. It really makes you realize how much a parents has. Not, just passed on, but we've kind of grown and. I remember it was really it was a hard thing to. Understand and work out because it wasn't just people related to me. It was from getting on the bus or buying water. Cycle Mica. Like my mother is everywhere. It really felt that way here you. How wonderful for you? Yeah. It was it really incredible having because I was in my. Mid Twenty s at gone my whole. That whole time, not an missing because they didn't know existed. Of course not I understand. But you know my my parents weren't musical. Where not musical? They would listen to love music so. The House I grew up in. Radio's all over. For the and later on my mom grew up in a house that had the radio just keep Boston. So there's radiation kitchen. My mom listen to a law of the kind of UK. Soul. Acts. Time Ub Forty, Shaw Day and. Still Love that my dad listen to the classical radio stations. to He'd have that plane. And my sister. More into. A mixture of love, the dance music or the time in England. And I love the kind of. American alternative my for rock music. And my brother. Just listening to hip hop the whole time. And I'd be running around the house. Listening to all of these things. Non Non stop and in the reason I, ended up. Instruments, my sister, who is a he is older than me. was. A piano? She stopped to very very I mean she may be played for. Four or five years of a life and then never played again but she was so incredible. And I would sit. On the chair, my sister. In chewed, go off to piano lessons and my mom told me that I would cry. When my sister wasn't there. So, she started just putting me in the lessons. Just so that house near my sister and she was playing. And from then it just. Carried on even when my sister stopped. I started playing the cello. HR IN ORCHESTRA, and. Although sounds will happened in all the time get. And I know. That's a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing that with it's my pleasure. I was listening to music all over the world to when I mean. My parents introduced me to big big band music. No. So that was being played in. When I was listening to music from China and? This when I was a teenager. West African drumming has totally into that and Anything, I could do anything because year I found that I loved everything. Yeah. I love all kinds of busy. But I want to go back to that knowing. Of Your Ancestry. That that, knowing as a result of being with them and recognizing. Yourself yeah, right. That is such a gift. That is such a gift. Yeah. I'm from west African culture, West Africa. Culture has allowed. Right yeah, Dan An. Attitude right this just that's just what we are. We you know it's it's loud. And very expressive and no bullshit. You know. You know it's like the you'll call you on that in a second and call you out for it. But at the same time is extremely loving. Yeah. Right. Now, my particular family was not like that but it was in my culture and actually my father's sister was. That she was truly west African. She say things like. You brought me your chain. So I know you want to be here. Yeah. Okay. Here we go away Straight straight out. But. For me the first time. I experienced. Being where I was not the minority. Because when you are in a culture where you are the only person relatively speaking and you represent your whole race to all other races, right? Because they have no experience I mean things have changed a lot now. But when I was when I was a kid every time I went out the door represented being black to everybody who was white, right? So I was like I never had a moment where I was alone and never had a moment of privacy. Ever, when I was outside my door. And first time I went to completely bicultural was I went to Jamaica. And I remember I got off the plane, the door opened and I went I knocked backwards. I came down the steps and went. Oh. I just melt in even though I'm Canadian and I'm not from the West indies I'm just in the background year relatively speaking. As a sense of like. Yeah. Right and I think the data something that all people who have been displaced for one reason or another right experience. To not be in culture where that culture is is just the natural thing around them. It creates a great distance and I don't care whether you're talking about being a Jew with you talking about being black where you're talking about being Muslim whatever it doesn't matter. It's like that is very hard on. Tevi it's heavy. Yeah. And there's no easy fix for it or one of the good things are happening is that we're starting to mix up all around the world, right so now people out the door they see at least here in in our western culture there we see everybody now right? So it's starting to be. You know a natural thing and this I know nobody looks at me and any particular different way than they look at anybody else and I don't look them in any different way than anybody as things are relaxing. As one of the wonderful things about the fact that we're starting to be. A. World Community where we understand it it, we're just human beings with different. Wonderful attributes. To the whole thing, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yummy to. Well on that note, I've had such a wonderful time talking me too. It's been. Really reading credible thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. deb Heinz. Glenn. 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Trevor and Jaboukie Young-White Discuss Amazon's Move to NYC | Kirsten Gillibrand & Tessa Thompson

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Trevor and Jaboukie Young-White Discuss Amazon's Move to NYC | Kirsten Gillibrand & Tessa Thompson

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That's gonna be a lot of fun. But there's a ton of news. So let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's starts with President Trump. And before you boo before you, boo. He's doing something. You might actually like President Trump threw his support behind a deal the implement the biggest criminal Justice reform. This nation has seen in a generation showcasing what would be the most sweeping prison reform agreement in decades. And if it passes one of the biggest bipartisan laws of his administration Americans from across the political spectrum can unite around prison reform legislation that will reduce crime while giving our fellow citizens chance at redemption, you see that's good news. President Trump is supporting bipartisan criminal Justice reform, just in time for his entire administration to be indicted by Robert Muller. Time. He's up there like these criminals deserve a second term. I mean second chance. I wonder if when Malania heard about the reduced sentences. She was like doesn't mean I get out of marriage early. Sorry, baby you're in for life. Speaking of getting out it's been two years since the U K voted in favor of Brexit's, which of course is across between brunch. And exits and the prime minister has just unveiled her plan on how to do it. And let's just say it has turned into a bit of a close defunct zits breaking news right now from London five members of Prime Minister, Theresa May's government have resigned saying they cannot support before five hundred page draft for Brexit. It was officially submitted to the European Council today. Theresa May's right now trying to explain to both sides of the house of parliament. And frankly, he's been to the room this morning meetings with ministerial colleagues. Draw treaty. That means that we will leave the EU in a smooth and orderly way on. Now as usual with British comedy. You may not understand what's so funny. Basically, those lawmakers aloft Theresa May because they know that her smooth Briggs plan is ridiculous. And of course, it's ridiculous. No break-up is ever smooth. Okay. You're gonna Brexit. It's not gonna be smooth. Like every breakup like that you think it's going well before you know, it she's with someone new, and then she changes the net password, and then you being arrested because you broke into see how house of cards ended. But I just wanted to see how it feels to a female president. Moving on. If you're a man who's been getting some extra looks out on the street. It's probably because you're flies down or maybe you just forgot to shave. There's a new study out that says when it comes to facial hair women prefer a little stubble. The journal of evolutionary biology surveyed eighty five hundred women, and they raided men at different stages, so heavy stubble or guys that had gone ten days without shaving that was found to be the most attractive feature and second came full beards. And third light stubble and bed last was clean shaven. That's crazy. I never even thought about that. Things. I don't even think about but. Yeah. Apparently women men more attractive when they have a bid, although I don't know if that applies to interest elbow because even without a bid look at him. He's interests Elba. Grueling bid. If you were anyone women, you should try growing interest elbow on your face. That's what it should be. Now the transition period is a little bit rough. But if you stick with it, it's worth it. All right on that note. Let's move on twelve main story. All over my face. Now firstly shaved Amazon. It's the trillion dollar company that has everything from progressive show about transgender family to an overnight shipping of an inflatable dildo chair, which had forty nine ninety nine is an absolute steel people. You put a price on pleasure anyway, as you know by now somebody's face. Do the show with the stuff on my face. Anyway, as you know, by now this week, I'm on announced the big going to be opening two new headquarters, which sort of defeats the purpose of headquarters, but whatever and although politicians in New York taking a victory lap at getting Amazon to move into their state. Some people are giving the move one stall Amazon's decision to put part of its new headquarters in queens brought a bit of a backlash Long Island city. Some people are voicing concerns about their new neighbors. This is one of the big concerns to subway system. Commuter saying that they're worried about the influx of commuters. There's gonna be housing issues transportation issues, there's gonna be traffic issues pollution issues. Just this morning. I took out my phone deleted the Amazon off my phone. Yeah. To needed the app. People make it seem like deluding Abbas permanent. It's goodbye. Wait, wait, I need more trying to hold on hold on. Okay. Goodbye. Do people tend on Sunday morning and then by Sunday night there swiping? I'm done with ten trash. Now, I'm horny hold on. Hold on. But still still people are really upset that the internet giant is coming to New York. So for more on the on move. We turn to our correspondent with the most browser tabs open to everybody. Do you think that this is a good or bad move by John? Oh, it's worse than bed. Trevor it's cliche Amazon's have been around for twenty four years. And now they're doing any like twenty four year old does what moves to New York and gentrifying neighborhood? You know, they could've at least spent a year teaching English and Bangladesh. I'm trying to be original. They're trying to bring jobs to New York. Oh, yeah. That's just what New York needs another twenty five thousand tech, bro, sucking down green juice on the seven train. I mean, do you have any idea how crowded the subways gonna get it's already nonconsensual close on g I? I literally don't know where my backpack starts in that dude's. But begin. Yes. But what about the fact that Amazon is promising to invest two and a half billion dollars into New York? Okay. But New York is giving Amazon three billion dollars who wouldn't take that deal. You don't even need Amazon. You don't need it. I could give you two and a half. If you promise me three billion dollars you want jobs count on. Okay. I get it and you joke, but they are still bringing twenty five thousand jobs will. Yeah. But those jobs aren't going to locals they're bringing people in and don't think that it won't affect you. Trevor just wait until the mayor tells you that the daily show has to be hosted by the marvelous, MRs Mazel. Actually liked MRs Mazel. Oh, yeah. Me too. I haven't seen it. But like I love that it exists. But you know, what the worst part of this whole thing is I just moved to queens that place used to have street cred. You know, Niki Moniz knows Finney said, but not wanna tell people I live in queens. They're going to be like, oh, okay. Cool. Could you return this package for me? I'm sorry. But it doesn't seem like there's anything you can do about it now. So there's no point in complaint. Not true. Trevor we can get out in the streets and stop Amazon before it's too late. Runny chang. Everybody chang. Side-hustle don't ask. I'm ready. Wait, wait. Wait. Wait. Did you just order your boycott Amazon sign from Amazon? What am I going to do go to CVS? Places nasty Djibouti everybody. We'll be right back. Democratic Senator for New York and also of the new children's book bold and brave ten heroes who won women the right to vote. Please welcome Senator Kirsten gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for coming back. And we'll get into the book in a moment. We were just talking about Amazon. It feels like that's what's on. Everybody's lips in New York, you recently commented on the whole Amazon deal where do you stand on its well, I have some concerns? I mean, I'm glad they recognize that New York is the greatest city in the world, and we have some of the greatest workforce you could possibly ever want. But I'm concerned. There wasn't a lot of community input. And we paid a great deal of money, which unfortunately, we still have families all across queens, all across New York who are struggling to make ends meet. So I just I have some concerns. It's it's a it's an interesting dilemma for politicians to be you always trying to balance the game of pleasing corporations, and then also pleasing people on the ground. When you look at a situation like this with Amazon with what's happening with mayor de Blasio and Cuomo people are saying, you didn't listen to us, and they say, no, but we did this. For the people, right? The problem is they gave so many financial incentives to the wealthiest one of the wealthiest companies in the world and built a helipad for the wealthiest man in the country. It's absurd that taxpayer dollars went for that kind of investment when we as New Yorkers know how much of what we need our infrastructure. He'd better subways we need to. Comparison of of how much was offered and the fact that we have so many other urgent needs right now. That's interesting compensation that I think Democrats are going to be having going forward. Now the compensation of money versus politics. The Democrats have won the house, the Democrats picking up more and more seats every single day. It seems like seems like. Going forward. There has been talk of the few ideas. The Democrats are pushing for in one of those key ones has been getting money out of politics that are realistic idea. I think it's the most important thing we could try to do because everything that you want. Accomplish no matter what it is. The reason why it's so hard is because how much money the special interests, the wealthiest corporations spent on politics and distorts outcomes, it's really not only soft corruption, but sometimes hard corruption. And so if we want to guarantee healthcare as a right, not a privilege, well, then you have to take on the drug companies, and you have to take on the insurance companies if you want to end gun violence in this country to take on the NRA and the gun manufacturers. All of us to understand that connection between money politics, and we have to restore democracy to the people you have to really break up the Kurt system and say we need publicly funded elections, we need greater transparency and accountability. Because you have to get this overwhelmingly powerful influence that the most powerful money interests have in outcomes, you know, this last tax Bill. There's no better example written in the dead of night by the special interests even Republican members saying, oh, we have to get this Bill passed because our daughters will be furious. If we don't right. So the truth is, you really gotta get money out of politics. So I'm glad that it's something that we're start talking about passing reforms and continue the conversation with the American people. Do you feel like laws will be do you feel like the the democratic house will be able to work with Republican Senate and with the Republican president? I think as possible, and you have to try you just have to keep putting those ideas out there. And if you bring it to the people, they know that our democracies broken, and they know that the system's rigged the most powerful have such an outsized influence, so they're going to be behind it. And they'll be behind it, no matter where you live, whether it's a red state or a blue state or purple state people want to have their voices restored. And that's really what this book is about. It's what the last election was about that our right to vote are voting rights are -bility to be heard our democracy. Only works when regular people stand up and demand it, and so that's one of the reasons why I wrote this book because it tells the story about how actually earned the right to vote and what they have to do to get there. And so we cannot we cannot lose sight of how Porton that right is. And so only money out of politics, but also voting rights, it is a powerful book that's come out at a very timely moment. You have more women going into congress than ever before. On the democratic side and this book, bold and brave ten heroes who won women the rights to vote. It's a beautiful book. And it seems like it's for children, but I was reading it. And I was learning things. And you would so they generally do. So you wouldn't know Susan B? Anthony, we've heard of those suffrage Suffragettes, but we do we know what portent roles supporter truth paid in actually getting the right to vote because she was one of the first to talk about the intersection -ality between black women who had to not only abolish slavery. I but that also needed to get the right to vote to full over their lives. And so Georgia was so amazing because she put that issue squarely in the movement in one of the first women's rights conventions in Akron, Ohio. So she was a forerunner to other Suffragettes came later who carry that banner to be wells and Mary church Terrell same with Harriet, Tubman. I mean, she escaped slavery, and then when back to get other slaves free, and she never gave up and what made her journey so powerful to me is just the, pure empathy. She had for the people that she was fighting for she's that I've heard their cries I've heard their screams. I've felt they're paying. And I'll give every drop of my blood to free them. I mean that was the unbelievable strength and courage to put herself danger every day. And then after all that she went on and and did speeches around the country for suffrage. Do you think it's it's a bit of a paradox or do you do you find it's perplexing that many women who vote today specifically, let's say for the Republican party vote in a way that many would consider against their best interests. So for instance, you look at Brian Kemp and Georgia you look at how many white women voted for him. You look at the Republican party itself. You look at all of the votes that we saw in the midterms, and it looks like many white women are saying, yes, we we with you has women. But that doesn't mean that I will vote has to go that way. Why do you think the such a disconnect between how the Democratic Party connects Winnie women of color, and how many white women in America's go? No, this is not the party for us. Well, I think it's a really difficult question to be honest because they really are voting against interest. But what's changing that is? The women who are running who are so inspiring that they are still winning the fact that you have Stacey Abrams running in Georgia if she could win this election. Governor ever in our country system. And now she's demanding that every vote becomes transformational? Kirstin cinema winning red state of Arizona. Sexual women's elected to the US Senate who grew up in poverty who actually knew what it was like to be homeless a part of her life. She lived in gas to an abandoned gas station. So when she comes to the Senate, she's going to shake things up. So I do think things are changing and it's changing because the number woman who turned out to vote. It's also the number who decided to run and the number of women of color who are running. It's exponentially different than in the past before. I let you go one of the most important questions. Everyone wants to ask you ask you is whether or not you're running in twenty twenty now that's a question. I've heard you over and over again, what interests me more is what you think the plan will be when the Democrats have one hundred people running for twenty twenty. At what point do you think as a person, you know, that you should or should no longer be in a race? I know that's tough questions because you haven't even said you're running yet. But is there a plan in place? So that there isn't like shit show where there's one hundred people on stage of fighting for scraps. Now there no plan. But I, you know for each person who will consider it. I think you just have to you know, for me. It's very much a moral question about whether you need to use your time and talents to serve the country in that way. Of course, I will fight for New Yorkers and serve New York. But you ask I have asked my own self. Do I need to do this thing because this is a moment where people have to fight back with everything they have. And what President Trump has put out to the world is a lot of hate a lot of division a lot of things -iety and all of us all of us. You me everyone here is called to do something in this moment. And we just have to decide what are something is. And berry is available now. Hi, everybody. Up next is an extended interview with our guest. But before we get to that. Let's talk about sending money abroad. 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Again, that's transfer wise dot com slash ears. All right now under the interview. Welcome back. My next guest is an actor who stars in the new movie creed to welcome Tessa Thompson. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. What a bumper year. You have had Westworld creed chew new men in black relation sorry to bother you one of the few people who can binge-watch themselves. No, do you have a stop and take stock and just go like you having an amazing time or congratulations. Thanks so much. Yeah. All the time. I feel incredibly lucky just hearing you the things I I'm so excited a time. I mean, I'm so bored of the word diversity to me. What's exciting to have diverse ideas, really feel so lucky that I get to make work. That's so different. And feel like I'm not being boxed into space because I don't think that's been the case for so long for someone that looks like me. So I'm so grateful. I think that's something. So many that's been really apparent with a lot of your characters. I find that you'll characters are never one dimensional. You're playing people who are complex in spaces that you wouldn't normally see them. I mean, for instance, in Thor ragnarok, you playing what many people would have considered was supposed to be a blonde blue eyed, you know, as guardian and here, you are kicking ass playing a character who is bisexual and she's biracial in a world that you wouldn't expect it when you choosing the roles. Do you bring that with you? Or is it something that you look for when you when you deciding on who you wanna play. Yeah. I think selfishly I'm looking for it because I want to do things that interest me that scare me because that's that's exciting sort of a macro way. I wanna see women particularly black women women of color in those spaces, so selfishly. I'm also just like where don't we exist? Got us. They're like I remember having conversations with Justin semi, and who I made a phone call dear white people with and he's like there's just not enough black people in the future. Let's get in the future, you know, and making, you know, making filming dear white people was was you know, there's not enough black people that get to talk about race. But with satire, we get to talk about it. And he space with a lot of misery and pain, which is real. But can we also talk about it any different way or getting to do sorry to bother you? And just like I love films that hang out in the space of magical realism like I remember seeing films tonal sunshine of the spotless mind. And being like goodness. But there are just never black and Brown people in those spaces. So I'm just always like, you know, where can where can we be right? Haven't been you taken choose to another level. And you are in some amazing blockbusters. I know men like it's coming out but cre- twos out right now. And I mean when creed came out, it was a film that excuse the pun knocked everybody out because it came out of nowhere that that genuinely it's you have to excuse it because nobody did it came out of nowhere. Like like, you know, Michael, Jordan yourself. It was a, you know, love story on screen. You play a really interesting character. She's a singer who has hearing impediments, but she she she used part of who she is as a person and in this in this this film. I don't wanna give too much away. But it really feels like she is. Now, the hero to Michael Jordan story where Michael Jordan struggling as a character. And she has to be that rock. Did you did you find that change when you're playing? Yeah. I think so I mean, you know, we wanted to create a character Ryan Kugler, and I the first time around that sort of bucked convention, and I think so often you see in these sports movies. The that the white for the girlfriend is sort of this dutiful just like stand by her man. She's either fretting over him or scolding for his trespasses. And I do fair amount of that in these movies too. Just because you have to sort of requisite, but we also wanted her to just have agency and have something that she was after. So she's a singer she's self produce. She does have. Progressive hearing loss. But it's something that she doesn't feel you know, it's it's not some fame that she's going to hang her hat on or something that she's gonna let keep her from pursuing her dreams with vigor. And I think that's the case for so many people that people that are disabled or with disabilities. They live really full fantastic live. And so I think that's something. That's you know, really nuanced about her and unlike a lot of female characters in those spaces that I've seen. Yeah. What I found amazing in the story was it felt like your character was helping Michael with something that he was struggling with as opposed to the other way around you, you would think on paper he would be helping her. But it felt like she was the crutch when you look at having that agency in real life Tessa Thompson is not just somebody who's in front of the camera, you know, producing your own content. You know, looking at creating your own stories, you have a project that you really excited about what is that going to be? It's a project that I'm producing about this woman named doors pain who is an eighty. Eighty six year old diamond faith, and she's done it for decades. I I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact in court, she listed as her ocupation diamond thing. Because she's a baller. Yes. She's just this incredible woman that I heard about there's a documentary about her that I watched is fantastic. See? Doc, and she she's just so riveting just as a character and chased her down for two years. I set her letters. I could never get her. And then. Yeah. How you how are you trying to catch a diamond thief? I don't understand this. Listen ambition. I was trying to find her. I couldn't I couldn't get to her. She it also promise her rights, of course, because she's a con woman to multiple people. So there was a period where we couldn't mess with it. Otherwise could have gotten litigious let me back off for a second. But then she got arrested first stealing something from Macy's or something. So I knew where she was. Here's the kicker. So I knew where she was I wrote her still didn't get through. Right. And then she got arrested about a year ago again for stealing. What after she had turned eighty six eighty six dollars worth of merchandise from a WalMart not by surprise because in this internet space. Now every time she gets arrested. She trends for a minute. So I I'm convinced that she did it on purpose. So that she could get a really good deal to option her life story, which she got in the form of me. We've finally found her. I sent a lawyer to Atlanta Georgia to bail her out. No strings attached, get her settled in and then start having conversations. And now, you know, we've been hanging out in working on the story. And I think it's a fascinating story about race. I think she started this just, you know, not just to make money. But I think also because she said if she could walk in with the right bag in the right shoes. People treat her differently. You know, she said she never thought that she was stealing anything because she only kept what they let her keep, and they would let her hang out with these diamonds and rubies and things because she looked so sharp, and I think there is something about that as as people, you know, hopefully when we get to space where we're judged by our and and not by what we look like. I love her stuff. 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What Lena Waithe Got That I AIn't Got?!?! - Episode 63

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What Lena Waithe Got That I AIn't Got?!?! - Episode 63

"A pack. Candidly, back as Julia. As mother issue boy back. DJ clue. Shutouts? Boy would fresh off of world wind tour of to the triangle. Oh, sounds like fun to none out. Really actually not was. It was good. We had to go weekend got season people that have seen a while some four former classmates and friends spend low time, you know, interacting with the culture on ABC campus. So that was wonderful. Yeah. Man just out here. Trying to kill these people. You know? In a road. Just starting to show like move at the bay. Hey, look came strand bag. That's the only would come. The only way to bring it. So doing today. Jesus christ. What say I'm knowledge, and I'm here. Present. We're gonna we're gonna rested this episode because I wanna go see avengers in game again. Yeah. I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to tag along. But you know, we'll see how Mansi love when he goes through Thursday. Okay. She got off work. She was doing. I was like nothing. Cool. You wants the avengers. She was like, yeah. I was like cool legacy of injures. They were in that worked. Solve interesting game. It was DOE. And it is a food three is the whole three hours. If you is this is this is not gonna give spoilers tip. If you need to go to the bathroom going out and a half. So make sure you try to get their first out and a half you can get away with going before the second like two hours our mart. Excuse me. But you don't wanna miss that last hour at the very least Oldham's last hour. How about we just be adults and just hold it? I don't know because you know, actually little bit actual theater, and I had about a crown. I mean, there's a good look to had a crown while you there. Ground crown really will help out right gifted movie. Right. And like if you choose to partake in smoking Gonju, don't watch this movie high. Oh, the reason I'm gonna tell you not to watch this movie high is because certain stuff that you will miss. Okay. Okay. Really touched on every single character. And like all of the different in all different aspects of all of their story lines still like that. And so you will see like how it all comes together in and the way it comes together is really dope. Okay. For those of you that are listening. This still have not seen it. I will tell you two things. There are two scenes in the last hour. Really? I wanna say probably the last thirty minutes. I know one for sure last thirty minutes of the movie, but I'm gonna say last thirty minutes of the movie that I'm your like will one you're going to be like, oh, this is beyond saying inspire. Like, this one thing immediately. I was like I feel like I'm in formation, and I don't I don't feel great about it. We've already professed our love in new acceptance into the beehive. So absolutely. And then there's another thing. So there's a scene where literally all the oxygen leaves the room. I'm gonna predominantly Caucasian theater. I'm sitting like literally in the front row. And I'm sitting sipping my crown, and there's a scene like in close to the end of the movie where what was a cheering somewhat raucous festive atmosphere is like you felt the energy shift. Wow. Like, you feel the energy shift in that? And I'm thinking maybe was just because it was that Deiter in the in the neighborhood in the area. I was right. It was more likely for that to happen. Okay. But once you see I think you'll understand exactly what they're saying is, and yeah, it's it's is this. Belt, though, I smile, and it was funny because I was it was it was it was a white couple next to me and white guy just kind of lean back. He didn't say anything. But he's just folded his arms, and then the white couple on the other side apparently lady she started like like fidgeting around like soon as it happened. I was like. Wow. So is that real for you? Okay. So it's just okay. One of those things made it certain people get uncomfortable. Certain thing. Also at this point in time. I like to profess undying love Tessa Thompson fair enough. I know she dating lean away. And I said somebody, you know, willing to waive guide that I got as the, you know, she talented, she rich she creative. She connected. Don't tell us it. As she she she chose where I where with. You wanna come up? Okay. So this touch on his requiem being single in two thousand nineteen absolute sucks. We're going there. Just just what second Lord I'm not going to dive in. Where's the whisky? Absolutely. Looks. Being single just trash in two thousand nine. Let me tell you about a story. But a man named jed. So sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My Blackhawk for that. I'm not gonna get into that story. Because it's just one of those things where it's like it's gonna take way too low. Put a pin in recruiting recruitment. See with these folks. All right. That was interesting. And we're back. Which co switching is the dopers. It is. So so let's talk about let's not go into me being sing. Okay. All right. We go talk about coats, which okay? So so let me so I had opportunities weekend to go to my fifteen year. Sino-vieomic trash deal. Oh, okay. We we touch on that later. So had opportunity to go to my. Fifteen year class reunion from graduate school. You know, I it's it's always interesting to kind of get together with people that you really didn't interact with a whole lot. But you kinda are in this place and you have shared experiences. So now you kinda hit it off. But I had a very interesting conversation and hit on co switching, you know, we talked I was talking to to my classmates that were from India didn't really have a lot of interaction with them while it was in school. But we were talking about you know, what the school does in terms of making it. I guess sort of forcing not really forcing but encouraging students to interact of different backgrounds different. Nationalities. And you know, the school is very diverse in terms of geographic location. So if soons from everywhere, but we're talking, and you know, we were talking about like how all the black students get with the black students together and lunch right all the Indian students sit with the needs to on so forth. And we talked about we acted the conversation. Kind of took a turn to talking about the shared experience that we black students have because we didn't really fuck with the white students or there was some of us that did. Let's right. Right. You know, there's some of us that work together to a certain extent. There's some of us said, well, I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking about socially like outside those naturally gravitated towards a Caucasian folks because that's referendum. Round as more comfortable is true. And you know in our class there were definitely a crew that kind of did that. But then there was like the core group of kind of the hood. It was like the the brothers like, you know, you know, my guys we kinda like just kind of gravitated to each other. And it was easier for us to be around be around each other. And part of it was because we could talk around each other in a way that we couldn't couldn't write certain things I can say things to you that I can't say to or around others. Right. And if they said it to me, I haven't matured to the point where I think everything can be solved with the conversation. I just leave it. Right. I mean. Yeah. But but it was interesting because I'm having this conversation with a guy from India. And I never thought I'd be having a conversation. I would always kind of figure it would be, you know. Someone called casting that I'd be have to have that conversation around. But no, he he actually understood. And he was like, yeah. Like, I I completely get it. Like, we have things that, you know, ways in which we talk and ways where we speak that we wouldn't bring to school. There's a an unnoticed that they they're very adept at coats, which ING not only with. You know, people in a professional setting specifically. Why folks, but also with us right now, I found it very interesting. How? I was treated at times versus how some of our Caucasian counterparts treated. Right. You know, and I just found that very very interesting. I'm not gonna ever had I had overall poor experience working with a team that was primarily from India. In fact, I some the two cats of the top where some of the best leaders I've ever had military included. Right. I mean, they were they were on it. Like they were on point shot at to see it in Vichy. They were on point some of the guys I got to work with like Harry Mahomed play ratchet like that's his actual name. Like, that's his name that his mother named him from the wound. First of all that that man needs name of the year, bro. That is that is may first of all who his mama because she she had the foresight seat is gonna come around know what that means an NBA. She was she knew it was gonna come around. Like, I love the reg reg was a great. I love ratchet. Y'all say not a ratchet. But no, so, but then it was his I just I I don't know whether it was a perfect personality conflict because I have nothing against him. I don't know whether he just didn't like me for one reason another I don't know if he thought that I was and this is where it could have been I thought maybe he thought I was trying to take your shine because he was the quote unquote resident rockstar, and I came in and basically took over his whole project. Right answer sponsor for the most difficult parts of and was killing it. And so he went out of his way to kind of treat me up in in hamstring me a little bit. And so, you know. So a couple times you got real spicy with me. And so like defers, the my okay. First time. You did. Okay. Maybe he's having a bad day. Right. I'm a lead. That was right. The second time did. Okay. We in a professional city. Maybe he didn't got a little too comfortable. Right. But I'm lettuce lied because he might be going through summit the house. I'm trying to benefit it out now. But I also know that at this point if I've given him to opportunities which documented right? The third time I'm gonna let you have. Right. So he came in. He sat ways of third time. And I say if I ever start off with elements you a question. Understand. I'm about to DU inyo right Paul's. Understand about to go all the way polls. If I if I if you got me fucked up like if I say, and I'm laughing oh shit ain't forty. He's about a you real funny. Just a second. And so I had to let him know very very quickly that he had me fucked up. Right. And so the second time it was it was one time we had a meeting, and it was just one particular aspect of our project that I told him, and I had documented multiple times. Hey, I have a concern with his head. And he said he just blew it off. And when we meet and sure enough, it was the first thing they have issue it that one that went issue that I brought up and I looked at it. And it was like you'll stupid, right? And so he comes back to me after the meeting and says, do you? Remember, I told you. Do you? Remember when I told you like I I went in like. Other guy that was on that team he had to close the conference room door 'cause I ran up one side of this dude and down other right? I said you got to when I say when I started using TI where you got. Unmitigated gall to sit here in all this bombastic arrogance, and I'm going I'm professionally going I literally sound like with a word of the day calendar because when I get mad I get I say, I'm very southern southern accent fully comes out when I get mad right within. I'm like, I'm literally with a calendar. I mean, a dictionary I'm going and he said, I don't like when you get angry. I don't like what you've misrepresented facts allow me. And he said before a second. He said I need to go talk to Steve St. was at project sponsor say do what you need to do this Friday, and I'm going home. Right. And I live like it was like two o'clock. I give a damn I'm not doing this with you. And so when I came back like. He's trying to play. Nice. But I was like it was at that moment. I knew I knew the job. And that's got that next job. That offered me a twenty percent pay increase. There you go. So it was lit though, we back to code switching. Is is like they understand the various layers of cultural competency, a lotta times better than we do. Right because growing up in a different country coming here and having to learn the ins and outs of multiple layers of culture, kind of gives you that. Cultural navigation, accurate, right? And and to that point like the one thing that I never realized just how how much of a shock. It was for my classmates because I never realized that they basically got off a plane. In North Carolina and were thrown into the mix of. Here's here's school. Like, they didn't get the the to navigate, you know, this is how you get an apartment. This is how you get a credit card. This is how you kinda set up a life here. They didn't get that. They were just basically kind of like playing today's later sitting in class. So. They had to kind of figure it out as they as they went and part of that, you know, you you can put on the school. But I do take some some ownership of that. Because you know, it's not like we actually tried to reach out. And I started back to school in August. And I'm going to try my best to kind of step outside of my. I'm not gonna say step out of my comfort zone, right? Because I'm never uncomfortable anywhere. I go because I always like I was alien anyway. Right. But I'm going to try to at least at the very least kind of based on what you're saying here. Make some connections with people from other backgrounds not so much because I feel the need to cater to them and shatter any sorts of stereotypes or engaging former respectability, but because I mean, maybe I could make a friend from a different culture right in share with them some things that they can learn about my culture that when they are around folks. And here's some racist stuff going on. They can be a defender. Right. You know? Right. So teachable moments. The more, you know being. Speaking of respective. Jesus christ. Speaking respectability. A Houston school has decided to give parents Jurisco. The first when I first heard about this story, I thought. The whites are added again in principle black. And I was like. I'm not surprised. So in this is not an okay, I'm gonna say something this is not a this is this is not a shot at any of these organization. Disclaimer, we don't disclaimer to say, okay. So this principle I look at her. I look at this principle. She is and she's a member of the links. You know, she's she's been in education administration quite a while. Given the amount of money that administrators making Houston, which I looked up. She firmly qualifies for upper-middle-class in Houston and upper class and a lot of other neighborhoods across the country. I have a problem with respectability politics. When it's been proven to not make sense. Are let me let me let me back just one second. So the reason they put the dress code and plays this this woman came to school to enroll her child she had on a t-shirt dress, and she had her hair wrapped in a scarf. It was like seventeen morning she was trying to get their baby rose. She can go on by day. They told her that she could not come in the building because she was in violation of the parental dress code. She said, we'll fear is the parental Tresco. Like, I'm trying to roll my baby. Can you show me the parental Tresco? Violet allegedly violated. They said no you need to leave the premises. And then they called the police on her. You call the police on a parent enrolling their child in school. Desk. Crazy first of all. So there's another story that I saw on Twitter regarding the same district where if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. So don't quote me on this the same school. This parent was notified that she that her child had been injured. And so she came to the school, and they would not let her see her child because she was not dressed appropriately. Now. When we talk about being dressed appropriately. I get it. I don't won't you coming up to the school with your body parts showing. Like when I say, you buy departs, I mean, your sexual organs, you know, what's considered sexual organs or something like that? I don't want you come to school. Like, I don't personally want to come to school exposing my child to a t shirt that says Ono I like big whatever's on I cannot lie like that. I completely get that. But here the things that this is the things these are the things rather that parents are no longer allowed to come up to James Madison schooling wear. A saddened cap or bonnet on their head hair, rollers, pajamas of any kind. Nothing's reloaded leggings that are showing your bottom. And when your body is not covered from the front where the back. And it doesn't make sense, sagging pants men, wearing under shirts and daisy dukes. I get the daisy dukes. I completely get the data. Dukes men wearing undershirts. I guess we're talking white T's wife beaters. Yeah. I I would think that white white beater or white t determine why beated let's say, thanks. Takes me wear tank tops. Okay. We could call them Guinea TS. But. It was a joke. People. I apologize to all the Italian. Oh, y'all know. You you. I'm Watling today. Rain all the way to. It was a long weekend. Whiskey was involved. Leggings that are showing your bottom in where your body is not covered from the front or the back. I don't understand that like this either leggings. Okay. I like you don't want people seeing Buddha cheeks, but these parents are not walking through the hallways Buddha cheeks out, you don't know that though. I mean, I used to be a teacher. I never saw parents house. You don't know that though if it okay Aggie within the same time is like people were saying that this is anti black. I don't think it's anti-black per se because I think now I do think there's anti blackness involved in this incident. The reason I don't think it's anti-black is because some of the things that I see are Caucasian parent counterparts show up to various places in our some of these things minus the satin cap or bonnet. I see some of the same things from you. The herald is not as much now. Do I think that the hair rollers and the saddened Capra Rabbani may have a bit of anti-black Anderson it yes because giving human Houston's humidity if I'm coming to bring much out of school at seven fifteen I gotta be at work at eight thirty. And I'm a woman I would probably like to keep my and capital. So the humidity doesn't kill my hair before get word just being perfectly honest. I'm not gonna ever back down off that one the anti black portion of I think that had that been a white woman who showed up in some Lululemon leggings and a tank top. She was a yoga the police wouldn't have been called. You probably right there. That's the anti blackness that I saw I will. I will grant you that. So this story has a lot of layers. I'm still trip about you say Guinea TS house like oh. What you want? I'm out here. Chest out who else wanna fuck with Hollywood. That is my favorite outcast line. By the way, it really it. Really? I love that line. Anyway. So I have I have conflicting issues on this this issue. You know? So part of me says good set a standard. You know, be an example for your kids is shame that a it's a shame that the principal has to. Take such action on our own to or or or implement such such measures in the first place. Right. You know, you would think that a parent, you know, coming to school is a reflection on your kid, and you would want to represent your child in the manner that you would wanna be represented. I know personally, I wouldn't like it. If my mother came to school with her house code on, and and you know, titties sag in and everything else. Sagittarian black women have been coming to schools for generations and have raised king. But I will like it's I wouldn't like it. It don't matter. If you like get your education, you know, Donald our in our in like. But at the same time, I do kinda. It's tough because we've been having we've been having this conversation for a long time now. And and you know, I I think if I came to light to me with Bill Cosby when he said pull your pants up when we do I mean. I mean, let's let's let's set the speeches got him locked up though, true. But let's let's but for the purposes of this discussion lists separate the man from the argument argued it. It. He's still trashed. But he's absolute tracks. But my point is that you know, we. You know, often we often exp- we often have this. Need to I guess justify our actions, and in our dress and things of that nature and to a point, you know, you shouldn't have to you shouldn't have to do that. But at the same time, I feel that there needs to be some kind of a count ability. Right. So so if I'm a parent, and I know that I have to go to school, and I've got to meet with my child's teacher, or whatever the case may. Okay. So here's my issue. I don't think that people look people are coming to the school for parent teacher conferences like this. I don't know for sure. But I'm thinking bringing dropping your lunch money off bringing your out just to get them in row. Right. Quick hit on the rest of your day stuff. Like that. I think that's what this is targeting. I understand. But I would. But see, I guess that's just the difference between me, and and and everybody else is that I wouldn't come out of the house looking that way. And that's just me and that's fair. And and you know, you know, when we when we talk about, you know, the principal and her part in this. I I don't I don't necessarily like I get you know, she's AKA's respectability aspect that often. We the middle class upper middle class upper class legs often, take these tropes in view, lower class blacks through the eyes of white supremacy. Right. And we associate a lot of these activities and a lot of this dress with undesirable traits because we believe sometimes when you get to a certain. Socioeconomic status that you're better than it. It's very subtle. I'm better than you. Because I don't do this. Right. So so let's let's let's let's change the situation a little bit. So let's say, you know, you are at work. You have to take a medicine that you know, does whatever helps you live, right? You forget it one day your significant other fictitious person at this point. Has to has to come in bring you your medication is early in the morning. She decides why would just run up there, real quick hair? Rollers bonnet flip. You know? The you know, how shoes oke pajamas as flagging you down the parking lot. I'm going to be perfectly honest with you about this guy going to be very clear. We'll talk about my ex. Why I don't think that she would do that? If she knew that it was an emergency. And I needed within a certain amount of time, and she was working from home. I sincerely do not doubt that she was show up in a big T shirt. Like a t shirt dress like lady head on whatever her leggings tights word that she was comfortable in some flip flops and socks because she's like bay need his medicine. And the thing is like if she meets me in the parking lot. Or even if she comes in the lobby. I'm not mad because I understand this may not be ideally what she wanted to do. But the ultimate the end state outweighs that I guess temporary. Whatever it may be that that outfit could cause. Okay. But okay. So let's let's take the emergence. The the the eggs out of the out of the arguments guys is not is not an emergency situation. It's, you know, hey, you need this you need medication. Or let's say let's say, I left my wallet at home. And she she won't even it gives me. Right. Right. Right. Perfect. Perfect example. So so, you know, she comes. So let's say you're in your office slaving away. And you know, she comes up front desk. Omits him to come down here. See knowledge, right? Can you page him and just real loud and obnoxious about it? So why do you say she's being loud? I'm not. I'm not saying that she I'm just saying I'm just supposing that I'm not trying to make a case that anyone was being loud or notch. That's an obvious bias. I'm just no. Just saying for the case of the argument is that she may be a little bit and drawing attention as she may have some leggings t shirts. Sandals might. Yes angles. She might be maybe, you know. Now, you now, you know, me very well disappoint. I'm gonna go to their days. I'm we'll stop. I'm get what she got for me. And the next thing. I'm gonna say is fuck you got to. And we go we go laugh, we are going to sit there different this and laugh. Okay. And when somebody asks me about afterwards, I'm a laugh as she was just bring me some money. Magic them business. Does that to secure enough? We the people that are around me that I'm like minded ambulace. She was doing this for me wish she got on no matter. You can you give my TPS reports. Please sunday. Sunday. Okay. Dessau operating. Okay. I respect that. I mean, my mom would never came to the school looking any kind of way. Right. But some of my friends who mom was may not have had an opportunity or anything this. Another thing. We've gotta talk about like. Is crazy, man. One of the things that that annoys me so much, and I wanna go onto the next topic too. But one of the things that annoys me so much is that we talked about I talked about this undergrad is like people would get shamed. For going to the dress for success thing. And not having you know, like the polo shirt or not having you know, the the Kenneth Cole square told or something like that. You know, what I'm saying is like a lot of people aren't exposed to professional dress looks like sometimes, I I'm so happy you brought this up, but go ahead and sold. The thing is like, I know a do I kid you not and it broke my heart when I found out. I know a do who I think he just turned thirty two. He got his first suit like two years ago. He's actually warmer. Smartest people. I know. Right. One of the most talented individuals. I know makes good money with his business. He's. Always wearing his work uniform because his business he prob- he made a uniform to to provide a certain image for his business. But you know, he called me. And was I I need a soup. I'm like, okay. He's you know, where you wanna go. He had never actually gone soup shopping. Okay. He hadn't had a suit as an adult ever. And so he was like man, he said, I know, you know, a little bit about suits and stuff like that scene. You both is and stuff, you know, help me out a soup. So I gave him my rules for wearing a suit. I say first of all never have a suit with more buttons than you have fingers. Yeah. We all had the days Steve Harvey suit. I never worst. But I was a fan of the band collar, the preacher collar. I was I was a fan of those you from the south real house a fan of the preview and south. But no, he. I'm trying to from the dirty. But no he had never gotten a SU he had never want us before. And like, I kind of explained it soon. And it's still some things that I I have I had to learn about dressing housing place. I was like. Oh, good. You know? But it was just like one of those things where like he wanted. He wanted to look presentable because he had a major opportunity, and so he was like he wanted to dress like the owner as opposed to his own employees right in a situation. Okay. So we took him to get a soup, and I told him, you know, you do know double-breasted suit you like mobster. No never bridge suits if you short. So like that. But the thing is think about a man is thirty two years old. He has a daughter started. Now when he was thirty he had a daughter that was like thirteen he had his first job when he was young. So that's why he started his business to take care of his daughter now. I'm pretty sure in his younger years. He possibly could have showed up to his daughter school to drop off some homework or a poster board or a project or something like that. And you might have had a do rag on you know, what his Braves Braida back and all that. Right. And so it's almost like, you know, now, I look at look at some of these more rural schools because I've seen both and some of the white parents come up there, but we're talking specifically Madison James Madison high school, and we know exactly who this targets. And so I'm like while. I'm anything is. I teach my I teach my babies, you know, hey, when you about the house you represent, you know, your family, your name, everything makes you step out on your own point. But also teach them how your business like if my because. Okay. My baby's hair is natural. And humidity is not really nice to my baby I'm saying, and so my baby has a Easter program or she has let's say when she gets older, let's go into the prominent night. And she got run out and get, you know, something for that. I'm not gonna be mad at my baby for showing up in target for fifteen minutes with mine now gonna crack jokes, absolutely. I'm a roast the shit out my bed. I'm for instance. Go ahead. Like, we do we thought that was a good idea. Yes, we. So yeah, I'm gonna do that. I'm a make jokes. But I understand why my baby was doing it because she wants to protect our hammocks. She looks good for the event that she has laid on night. Okay. So I'm glad that you brought this up. And and I know we wanna move on the next time. But I just wanna talk to this point. So having a conversation with my boy TK shot up to you. We were talking about this very issue. He put together a kind of a day at the office. Not adventure. But day at the office for some some students in west west, Charlotte. Nice. You know, he told the faculty that they need to come dressed appropriately made the point. But he knew that somebody wing on is always one motherfucker like the ice skate appeal. It wouldn't just one. It was several essay the said the majority. Crazy. You know? And you know, you said, you know, we can't, you know, fall for not having the square toes and the in the, you know, the three P suit or whatever. But when the kids are come in look like they're dressed for Travis Scott concert to come into somebody's professional police at work. And you know, he works for a large institution. Where there aren't a lot of us that are represented somebody kids, which is like this. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But you can't tell me that there's not resources there because the shoe shoe game of these kids would rival. Some NBA players. Okay. So, you know, and again, not telling anybody what to spend money on or you know, where to place their value. But you would I would I would think that if I knew that my child we're going into someone's office. I would tell them look, maybe not the sagging pants today. But they may not have that same exposure to that environment to tell you the story broke mart. Okay. I was talking to a young lady who's who's educator in area, and she was working getting elementary school in west Charlotte. And she said that they took the kids to a field trip uptown and soon as they got more here and got him seventy seven two kids will like wild. They were like they they thought they were in New York. They never been there before. And so it's like it's easy for us to say, I would tell my kids to do this or I would spend my money on X Y Z when the reality is there everyday existence. I don't not those parents buying those kids those shoes because sometimes that's the only thing they know how to do to make sure kids have some form of self actualization in their everyday existence in spectrum sociality and exposure peace there, and I get that. But at the same time that we're buying those shoes. Can we also like get a pair of wingtips and? You know, they don't they may not know to do that, you know. And and and again, I. Nicotera poverty. Right. So so this is where I get into are like a lot of arguments with. You know, some of our kind of woke folks out there. You know, they always make the argument that we have to meet people where they are. And I get like, I get you know, you have to you know, kinda bring it to the, you know, bring it to where the level is. But. Is hard man. It's hard because you you want to expose these kids and you want to give them the opportunities. But at the same time, you got to realize that, you know, the people that are in those spaces are doing nothing but making judgments, right, and and it, and it's and it's hard because it's a reflection on like, it's it's bad for them. Because you got you know. Joey and Tommy over here that are you know, pointing and looking and laughing behind and and cutting little jokes behind the kids back. But then, but then is also like as the professional as the one who's organizing the venture, it's a bad reflection on you. And so so why would I be incentivized to continue to try to do that knowing that it puts me jeopardy because they're able to provide that kid that had never been exposed to that before it may change his life true, but changes life, and he says, I don't wanna wear the skinny jeans that sagging, no more I want to dress slacks and a button down. Now, if he's never been exposed to how does he know something that he may want? And this is the argument that I have and they're in is the reason I mentioned that she was ak- and links. I've had this argument. Literally. Now the entire time. The almost fifteen years I've been in the Fred I always said, I don't understand while we spend our time mentoring children who don't necessarily need mentors. I don't understand. Why we go to middle class upper middle class neighborhoods to deal with kids and granted some of them may need some guidance. I get it. But if part of our mission is to uplift downtrodden humanity. Why was geared to go to because if we could expose them to something like that teach them how to tie necktie teach them how to dress a little bit. Maybe do a clothing drive in some of these middle class upper middle class neighborhoods where the kids grow out of their dress clothes and say, hey, let's go put you in a suit young man, get you to understand that you know, what the world outside of just these couple of blocks that you used to that you've never been off the west side of this city would a north side of that city. And it's a it's a number of organizations. I did it could do it for our. People you got links. You got the urban league. You got the Boola. You got one hundred black men. We got alpha we got aka we got the queues and some chapters do that. But by and large, we don't. That's true. And so we're anything I'm not saying this as as an interested. Observer I'm saying I'm partly to blame too. Right. So I so I think it's again, I think is is multifaceted. So, you know. Yes, there needs to be more of that. But we can't do that without forsaking those that maybe are a little bit more privileged, or or or that are more privileged that you know, still will need. That that boost up. So I say all that to say is that there's a broad swath. There's there's plenty to do out there. Right. And everybody can play a role in everybody can play a part. And is it can't be you know, one thing it can't be a binary choice. It can't be one thing or the other. I think you know, there's enough need out there where you can kind of find a place where if it's whether it's I think at this point we have enough black men and women can't make that impact. Both in these lower to middle class lower middle class the middle class homes as well as these impoverished areas and lower class working class. Oh to speak areas where I think we have enough people. I think that the motivation just has to be there. And so I mean, let's be honest. A lotta educated brothers and sisters got this. I got mine you need to get yours type view facts. And that's that that kills wanted. Anything? Let's move on. Because while we in the education room wanna touch on something that happened and Illinois in peaking, Illinois. Kevin pummel. Stupid as as. He was a teacher. He was a social studies teacher operative word. There is. Was slow to teaser. He was he would by the screen name undercover academic. And he was a member of all these white nationalist white supremacists websites. And he bragged about indoctrinating his wife with white supremacist beliefs. He bragged about indoctrinating four of his students white supremacist beliefs. He complained about quote, unquote, miscegenation for those of you who did not have TI's where the day calendar that means interracial dating and interracial dating and having babies rather. So ideally, interracial marriages and children. Let me say exp- say specifically what he said he said, I'm miscegenation is frustrating. And sometimes I think it's twenty first century plague to get rid of whites who aren't somewhat racially conscious, but melodic are so weaponized. What in the fresh hill? What that means? But I was offended and I'm not even. Yeah. Well, we'll I am twenty one percent Irish according to my DNA if you don't get the fuck out of here. I'm celebrating the shadow Saint Patrick's Day, make sure you can kiss. My we do in a bar crawl. Lame black Irish I g United. Say. No, no, we going completely live. But once I got my DNA results back. I in boxed one of our Nigeria Fairbrother's. And I said, hey, we cousins. He's now you ain't shit. Talk. He's he's gonna help me when I go to Nigeria. He's gonna help me navigate that whole visit Jiri about myself type thing and figuring out unless you wanna go. If you wanna go we can go to Jimmy. These passed in this passport, I know expire because I can't find my birth certificate and Onuma, but essence story, but he also complained about children of color rather trick or treating in his neighborhood and said so many people of color coming to where I am and taking candy in a white neighborhood. It's symbolic for our civilization. Nigga move. Why don't you move? Yeah. Why don't you move, sir? If your if your neighborhood is not white enough move. And let's let's go back to what we missed out last week exit. And that's exactly why brought this this this this this get right? We'll get colonizer. This colonizer named Sean grids Robichon. Said he cuts through Howard's campus with his dog and let his dog shit all on the yard in the students were complaining about it. She said there was a student. They say they feel like it's disrespectful to have the patriots running around, especially when there are several parks around if they come on the yard. They're just walking through. They she didn't have a problem with it. But you know, she feels like they're still different ways to get around DC without having to cut through college campus. Mr. Robichon what his punk ass. See? So they're in part of DC. So they have to work within DC. They don't want to be within DC, then they can move the campus. I think we just need to work together. And I don't think it should be he here or there. It's our community. And that's how it should be. First of all star, isn't it is not your community. Howard University has been one hundred fifty two goddamn years. You have been with maybe six seven at the most probably not even not even not even I drove pass Howard last weekend. I mean, first of all is a beauty in shape. Was having at Howard is. It's you know, Howard remains as I con in the city of DC chocolate city. Let's let's not forget that fact, but the area around Howard is now the, you know, they have you know, child taste spots in and yoga studios. If y'all don't take y'all's natural ashes somewhere else. Right. Why here? Here's here's my issue. First of all you have to see mister robot. Robichon Robichon, we're oversaw. Okay. Y'all should see him. He looks like, you know, your standard. Colonizer colonizer. You know, I I I saw him in a in an interview where his little tank top American flag tank top with his beard. It looks like it stinks. Didn't. Y'all fuck that'd be. Anyways, midlife stale beer in oh steak, and and Japan when I say, oh Lee. I mean like the food got caught in his beard, and he just never bothered to watch it. That's just that's just wrong listed, Betty must products onions and bad decisions. Musty for no reason? Series. Like pain and strife killing mosquito hips like you smell like that. Just that is smelling like a whole taco Bill one. John wong? Two. Oh, lord. Anyway. Sorry. But anyway, I guess my point is that first of all how university is a private institution X. So. You, sir. Shouldn't even be walking on their campus. The the the thing that you also have to realize is that Howard? Unlike a lot of white institutions that are in predominantly black areas. I'm looking at you do university doesn't have gates up around it. And they don't have security guards Roman the Roman yard twenty four seven looking for people that don't look like they belong. So with all that said, I'm sure Mr. Robichon, you know, you know, would love to take his dog on campus. But I would encourage some of the the young brothers and sisters up there to go go to the corner of Florida, and you and you'll find the black Israelites posted up. Go get them. The next time you see mister robot Shaw and kindly alert them to his presence. Unless you see. How does happen? Let's make it a social experiment. Let's see what happens. When you take stank as hipster hipster beard that looks like smells like hops in and and just and still booty. And and mixed that with some some some some some brothers and sisters that really don't kind of play around with with his type say what I would when I was our. If I was our I would I would call our most famous alumna, Sean puffy, aka eighty combs, and I was a did you need a favor. We don't wanna by mister robot. Shaw's house. You don't wanna do that? We don't want to buy that whole block. Into that pointless for we wanna do Mr. combs. We wanna have a humongous outdoor party. And we wanted to go twenty four hours, and we want the speakers to point directly administer Robichon house. We won't lights and sound. And we want the lights to be so bright that they shine through every window in Mr. Robichon out. You want acrobat artists we want funnel cakes and I want and we want DM and the rough riders to return. So that they can have focuses dirt bikes and motorcycles up and down the street, and I want rare essence to get back together on sale you. Road. Don't give me to plan a concert at how isn't it? I'll turn it into reverse gentrification fist. Real. Can you imagine? It's the beauty of that site. Just just. I've gotten infatuation with our fascination. I've got a deep love for Howard University. Just like I have a deep love for Morehouse college. I have a report the goal go. I'm one of my one of my life goes is to earn an honorary degree from either one of those. So all of my friends who went to Morehouse or Howard Audi need honorary doctorate, I get honorary bachelor's, and I'm gonna tell you right now if I get honorary bachelor's from what house. Oh, yeah sheet I'm coming to homecoming every day. Like, we did you graduate the year? I got my bachelor's. Fuck you and I'm wearing them. What house? Who'd he everywhere. I'm talking about is not ninety seven degrees that I went them. Well house who I'm gonna get a tag. This is what house man, I'm again. House me I'm gonna put my Morehouse honorary degree on my wall in my office. And I'm gonna take my degree from my university. And I'm a hanging wall at my house like everybody's going to Morehouse because that was my dream when I was a kid we just couldn't afford it. I understand this is where we park humping now. Howard howard. So you still have a chance to have me as a student in case, you didn't know. Whether you're MBA program wants to give me a call before August, even though I haven't applied or whether you want to allow me to come into your divinity school because I'd love divinity degree from Howard. We can work this out a church. Lease started church possibly you always big idea Sundays. I started church. Let's move on. Especially at the last week. We're not go in there. Let's go. Let's get this elevation money. You you almost lost all of our viewers last year. I'm trying to get these John gray kicks come on, son. Did you see the article about pestis knickers? Yes, there's an Instagram all over I'm not on Instagram anymore. Oh, actually only on Twitter right now. I am over. Oh. Speaking of religion right now. I want to say I want to say a small prayer encourage you guys to say small Perata, whoever you believe in. A synagogue shot up in California by a white nationalist. Of course, I think if I'm not mistaken, he left a manifesto. And CNN is profiling did a profile of his lady Laurie K. There was one person that was killed that was Laurie K. She was sixty years old and there were three others were injured. Laurie K jump between the shooter and the rabbi of the synagogue and whiskey Lurie K was Braves hill Garissa. So the rabbi had been shot in the hand already case step between him and the gunman. In the rabbi started fighting. She was at the synagogue say a prayer for her mother. She had been in that synagogue. Quite a while. I think his mother, I think our mother was being rested was in surgery. I'm not sure, but she she's from San Diego. She leaves behind her husband and the twenty two year old daughter. There was eight year old little girl that was injured thirty four year old man. And the rabbi who was shot fifty seven. So the shooter from that mistake in the shooter de leave behind some sort of manifesto. He was definitely a Trump supporter who's a white nationalist. I'm really just sick of it. All. I'm really sick of it. This is just same same song. Same verse. We continue to have these incidences and I'm tired like. And it's and it's to the point now where where I I have to check myself because of almost become desensitized to it. It's like, okay, another another shooting at a over by white nationalist. But you know, we wanna sit here and talk about black homeland crime. Okay. Got about white nationalist on America. Can we talk about the fact that that y'all have have perpetrated more murders in the US in the past few years than any black home black around the you like we refuse to acknowledge that this this this country has country has why ageless air is that these people these terrorists are are. But we can't call them him. And I'm gonna say it. I'm going to say, I know that the media doesn't want me to say it. I know that nobody wants to hear this. But I'm going. Say these three words that apparently everybody is to frayed to say, oh, Lord Jesus. Radical conservative terrorism. Lord, Jesus man, they might off the Mike's I'll know radical conservatism we, but we won't say, you know. But yet still, you know, anytime any Muslim set so much as says anything, you know, they have to come out and condemn. You know, look at the violence that they try to like they incite a plan Representative Omar right and say about oh, she's doing is speaking truth. And and I don't understand why her comments are taking his anti semitic or whatever. We don't we don't have to go into it. But my whole swings. My whole point is that, you know, she's talking these people actually taking guns and killing people, and you know, again, I feel terrible shout out to you know, our Jewish brothers and sisters out there. Look, I mean, the sooner that we realize that we're all in the same fight against a common enemy the better off. We'll all be less. Stop trying to parse and like, well, you know, we need to come together as decent human beings, and exterminate these terrible individuals. I don't even want to call them into these these animals, these these these, you know, I'm gonna characterize them exactly how they characterize us. These animals. Who continue to go out and perpetrate? This mess is sick is sick. I don't I. And I don't I don't really want to go to any rabbit hole. I'm just I'm really tired of every time every time a school shooting happens. It's alone will person we're tied to mental hill mental illness, excuse we're tired of we're tired of seeing people publicly be racist, white, nationalist, white supremacists. All that. And then turn around and you say, oh, well, they're just sick or they were always different, unlike okay? It's a lot of people that sick in the hood that commit crimes and do fifty years for where they get worse and don't get better. But you don't see them running up in daycares killing people all the time. Right. Well, you don't see them shooting up schools is some black children out there that go through things all the time. Like, they're black children who have who have had to grow of very very fast. I know more than a couple and you don't and they get picked on. Because they don't have clean clothes like that's why some of these goals are putting in laundry facilities for these kids that don't have clean clothes or they're putting in food banks for that don't have food to eat. And. Yeah, somebody's kids. Get picked on somebody's kids. Don't feel loved because they don't get love at home. Somebody's kids. Don't, you know, have nice things or have nice homes even have heat? Someone don't even have homes. But the thing is I'm gonna tell you. And I and I told a friend this. We'll probably be listening. I told her that, you know, a gun is a lot easier to get than a diploma. And the thing is about it is that when you get that gun with that gun, you can get other things. Right. But the thing is when these children these guns. You don't see them running up in school and killing everybody joked on them and kill the teachers and all that you don't you? Don't see them going to a concert and just indiscriminately shooting at people because they feel. Of set. Right. These kids feel disrespected by life, and I guarantee you if you get to the root of I want to say, let's not get into that. Because I'm I'm gonna take it back to a whole argument, and we're gonna go down the rabbit hole. Let's move on a recipe to to to the young lady that past the synagogue, and I hope that h zero baby. Going on eight year baby got shot, and it is it is in the hospital. And she was wounded I prayed it. She finds peace and healing same thing with the guy that was killed in the rabbi. So we ain't got no time to get down. There rabbi over I here. Joe Biden run for president. Hey. I'm not gonna come out of a dead dog dedication. I'm not energized. Like, honestly, this is what I see happening. And I know you told me to give Nancy a chance and all that. And I and I've been I've been really quiet about the Democratic Party and some of my disgruntled in this with it. I think Elizabeth Warren is the most reasonable candidate is point. And I think that the Democratic Party is positioning itself to do a couple of things to dismiss Elizabeth Warren to screw Bernie again with whatever support he gets and to just preemptively make Joe Biden the front runner. I think that's what's happening. And I'm and here's the thing. I just see coming nonetheless, whoever the democratic candidates as the best chance for see Trump out of office. So I'll be voting for them. I don't necessarily have to be happy about what I see coming. All right. So here's my take on this. First of all Joe welcome to the race. Ladda heavy. I think Pete boot Pete be. I can't mayor Pete. I think PBS is the man I don't understand. Why people have such a hard time saying the man's name is Buddha judge Buddha. Judge booed edge Buddha. J-? I don't understand that. But anyway, not. I can't say I see I see what you're saying about Elizabeth Warren. So. Mcconnell boomy stop to stop. Got to be better. No, no. So I see what you're saying. You know, about Elizabeth Warren about Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, I will agree with you has the best. She's really the only candidate that's really put forth any substantive policy platform. Yeah. Right. And I get it Yoshi is that's who she is. She's a policy wonk. She's she's she's a policy nerd like she she wants to come up with all the the great ideas and and policy to to make your life better. Okay. Gotcha. Bernie, you know, he's still got his Bernie broS. And the, you know, and I don't dislike Bernie, I don't. I don't look I don't there there. I I was gonna say there that I don't like any dislike anybody in the field. But that's not true. There are some people that I do disliked Tulsi Gabbard. But. But Bernie, you know, he's going to do is thing. You know, Joe coming in. I think we were all kind of waiting for waiting for it. He took his time. And finally now he's in. Okay, great. I will tell you that you know, where everyone is falling short is everybody's trying to focus on policy, and I don't think that this election's gonna come down to policy. It's it's you know, the, and that's where Lisbeth Warren is gonna fall short. That's where I'm a single issue vote. I'm vulnerable Lisboa oranges because she wanna cancelled through loans. All right. So. I just paid off one of mine. Fuck all y'all like you paid. Yeah. Look. Anyway, this this election is going to be a referendum on chomp on Trump. And you have to have somebody who can stand up on a stage with him and go toe to toe, and to be honest, perfectly honest with you. There is not one candidate in the field that has demonstrated the ability to do that. Except for Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden could stand up toe-to-toe with him in a debate. And and give us just enough of that shit up, and you know, intelligence that we would need I don't think that any woman would play well with let me let me see what are other co- words, we use the middle America voters working class voters. See the poor the kitchen table, the key. The kitchen table topics that come up, which is really just code where for those white voters that could swing away from the Republican party. But yeah, I don't think that any woman could do that. Because I do think that they're invested heavily in just male leadership in male presence. That's how regressive America is at times. I think that any woman that stood up there in a debate with him. And this is nothing that something I agree with this speaking, the reality of what it is any woman that's sends debate with him is going to get degraded in disrespected and be seen as out of her place. And I feel like when we saw those forty to their forty three percent vote for Trump. That's it more than enough to me that people vow that that certain demographics of people value the maintenance of a certain structure, then they do their own rights and their own. Livelihoods, right. So so to that point let let's let's let's let's play this out. So let's say Elizabeth Warren gets a nomination. She's now gotta go ahead with individual one unindicted co conspirator in several federal crimes, but neither here nor there. They actually have to stand on stage in debate each other. Elizabeth Warren's gonna come out with all her policy forty three. It's fifty three precipitators. Okay. She's gonna come out with all her policy points. You know, we're going to do this. We're going to do that. We're going to, you know, cancel a student loan debt, which is never going to have him. But you know, we're going to do all these things then you have individual one who's gonna come to the stage. Dick joke. It doesn't play. Well for Warren is going to be some kind of you know. So so you're damned if you're doing damned if you don't right? So if you if you take him on and go back at him, then you're seen as OC. He's too harsh. Oh, she's she. Oh, who like like just the I can see the clutch pearls right now of Omar gosh, she's such a potty mouth. And oh, my gosh, comma, Harris, exactly exactly, you know. And then but commonly Harris up to is. She even got showed a bitter most angry black woman. They sucks the first house. She rolls her eyes or sucks. Her teeth. Is you know, I think I'm Leonard deserves to give us all of the black magic into an inaccurate. She should be allowed in the debate say nigga, please. I'll let me money at the very least a bitch, please. As I would. I would always take money to see that. I would love to come hair's. Just look and say, please, please. Like, look, I get people people hate, comma, harass people hate her people hate black women. We very true. So I mean, I mean, what are we really talking about? But but but here's the thing. Even if even if you have a female candidate is up on the stage, and she doesn't go back at well. Then she soft. She usually she's week. She can't she's not going to stand up. She's gonna roll over. So your damned if you do and you damned if you don't. So the one thing that I don't respond. Well, to is the fact that, you know, people are trying to play this identity politics game of well, we think that. And I'm and I'm not trying to use code at language to say that I support one candor another or, you know, I don't think that Lisbon would be. I think she'd be great president give me the the smartest person room. She does give me Angela Merkel yet. Give me the smartest person in the room in the position. And I'll take it. Ninety nine percent ninety nine times out of a hundred. We're in that one percent. I I'm exercising my privilege this year to be a single issue voter as well. And my single issue is I'm voting for the person who is willing to do whatever it takes to punish the Republicans and conservatives, I'm not just talking about, you know, undoing the mess that individual one has done. I'm talking about active punishment. I'm talking about some petty ship. I'm talking about. Supreme court is not going to be an issue. We take it up the fifteen and we stack them all with democratic. Does you can't block them? I'm eliminating the filibuster. You wasn't going to be petted. I want some you it. Yes. You won't liberal. Mitch mcconnell. Exactly. That's what. And that's why we lose elections because we don't have a liberal Mitch McConnell. We got these soft push. S player. Just just wanna Rollo him a little bit. You can't turn into me. We you wait. Gave us the per push brick. You sound like you was straight jobs. And no you in from the south. I I I was I was channeling something their energy in the room. Like got me excited about this. Sorry us. I mean, but this is this is turn a trick. Ned? This is blood sport. Like, we're to go grills tops Ambaum. Look, man. I. Give me a give me a. I need to Impala on twenty fours. I don't really want to. Bush. Foes in the Bates when the in the front a sitting Blake like a bulldog. Play take me back to my younger day. Articulate stuff. Don't take me back. Take me back. I get what you're saying. Man. We I've always said that the re the Republicans may not know how to talk to people, but they know how to wield power, right? And while while they will powered for their own best interests and have somehow convinced poor people that they are not poor. But temporarily disgraced millionaires the Democrats are bringing and I used to say this Democrats are bringing flowers to a gunfight, right? And I also I also used to quote, the movie under seeds all the time when there was a fictitious Senator. And you know, you don't fight a junkyard dog using ASPCA rules, which you do is take the leash off your bigger meaner dog. Right. I think that if you hold them accountable spanked early akin get there'd be more inclined to play within certain boundaries because that's what they do to other countries whenever they're in power. Right now with that being said truth be told like I'm saying this. But I'm not a democrat. I'm not a Republican I used to be registered libertarian. I use the donate to the libertarian party. So use a Republican who let you smoke weed exa-? That's what I say. Then I found out libertarian Republicans as we. Belushi. So I'm independent. I do believe we need. I think that this point our system of government needs a shift. I think it needs to maintain the Democratic Republic structure that we have. But we also need to make room for other voices much like the parliamentary system does that guarantees certain major parties a certain percentage of seats. I do think that the Republican party has become a terrorist organization in some factions and some places we mean, some well, I do think that they I think that there are start. I I think there's some Republicans who are the ultra Republicans that the never Trumper publicans and some of the ones that are more reasonable who are fiscally conservative more than anything as opposed everything else. I do think there are some of those out there, but they have been silenced and pushed into the corner until the and play ball because of Ronald Reagan's eleventh commandment, and which is not speak ill. But other Republican I get it. But that's that's part of the problem. And that's why and that's why they're just as trash trashes the one that are that are high. I think that those guys I know we we we've talked on this show about the the Democrats being cowards because they've been afraid to go after certain people or Senate for themselves. I think those Republicans who refused of Trump or more cowards than anybody. Right. So that's the story. Our politics long say I was just getting warmed man. We ain't got much more time. Right. I will say that Joe Biden is now in the race as the election gets closer. We'll probably be delving way way more in politics. And I actually want to start making original thing man, just kind kinda dip by telling the politics a little bit and figuring things. I mean, we already do it now. But with with the election coming up literally in a year and some change like, let's yeah. Let's let's rampant. Now. All right talk about it. I'm good. I'm so glad that way way before I get to that story. Ladies Idris Elba is now married. He has married Sabrina dowry, a lovely lovely lovely model agai married in Marrakech, Morocco. So yeah, congratulations to the black JAMES BOND. Even though they never casted him as JAMES BOND because they were too weak to do it. I I'm gonna say congratulations to you was an auto singled out there. 'cause now y'all can y'all y'all there's space Mayfield. Man. Oh. Muscle England has meal. Lybia single we've already. Cool. What was the song wanna be create Leary's it being single is cool today? Nobody around. You know, I mean, but, but the beauty of is that I've taken, you know, my my newfound free time really tried to dive into entre nous you'll and educational endeavors. Okay. So is is really been more of a a growth period a learning period for me, you know, and as is one of those things where I do enjoy my solitude, you know. But sometimes I I have like I've had things go on. And I don't have anybody to call right? You. Stuffed up. Look for aiding NAMI. His certain thing. Like come on, man. We still got brokos. Shutout DJ big Driss. Yeah. Dude is pretty nice too. I get a bed active magic eaters ill. But as macula taste immune cigars, suits, whiskey in Cologne yet. Just just you know, every man I just feel like he's like Tim meadows in. The ultimate role model like for real. Yeah. Yeah. So the him also and two ladies we sorry. We we sorry. But you know. As a as a newly minted member of the beehive. I answer. She goes is our. So glad that one half of the legendary Yuji k blimpy the OG triple. Oh, gee, the OG triple trill OG. Is safe. And so this how you know is real heavy like, okay? So first of all academic and intellectual teaches at Rice University. When have the most legendary well, one of the most if not the most legendary southern hip hop group in world because of a head of UK, you would have no right recipes pimp c by the way, Chad recipes to chip. So this man tried to do a home invasion blimpy's home in Texas and his wife queenie. Saw thought that they were coming for his husband her husband. She gated the home evader money and gave key gave him keys to the car in the driveway. Just take the car, please. Please don't touch my husband and do not wanna go stairs. Man. Do when upstairs. But being that. Bitch. As a self-correcting era. So do Rennes at the house runs down the street. Blimpy axe chases the young man masks, the key got away of whatever he was arrested at a nearby hospital trying to get treatment for his gunshot wounds. He's facing three I agree. Felonies to council Avary aggravated robbery with a weapon and one count of burglary. His name is Demonte Jackson. He allegedly did not know it was buns house. He's a he's going house to house in the neighborhood and buzz wife just happened to answer the door queenie offered him and all that was in the garage and Boone confronted him the boy escaped and lifted ma'am in lift his gun behind but hop in the car and went after him he'll do that gun point and made him take off his mask, and then the voice gave begin so Shantha trilogy. Like, it'd be treeless man talk about gangster in thing that any man who to me defending your wife and your home. But let's talk about true Queenie's though, drew because queenie was like, look, please. Just don't just don't don't touch my husband on. Here's my outy. You know, little money take the car. I don't care take the car just like she was down for her crime. She was down for a husband and her husband being grown ass, man. He say, oh, no. That dang on. Hey, Mr. thank God. I'm trying to tell you the baby came over there. Now. Game out the baby to Manchester to Charlotte native, the baby may get he I British. This is going to be bigger hits. Hello. But knows how to be mad hit. Okay. And when you look at when you look at the in in the merge at like. You could say he was amateur Lahey. He knew what he was up to. He got a he got a big cut or bruise or someone is knows be had Sokha couple times birth. In being small Dubar. No, I wonder how he got away again. But probably let him go. 'cause I I believe that burned on the killing of the black, man. Okay. Listen to his interview, I believe you don't wanna kill another black man, especially when you got him on the ground, you mass them, you know, who he is. And you got a gun on him. You're holding gonna point. I I can't believe that Mr Bernard Friedman does not wanna kill another black man, even as I get it. But when you come in my house. All bets are all you come in. My house Munn is much nicer than me. Right. Because I would have emptied the whole magazine the boy. Yeah. I mean, it is. I mean. Yeah. It wouldn't have been no Merck shot. It would have been a funeral program. That's the bottom line singing and flower brand is not because I'm a gangster because I believe in murder, which I don't think. That's right. I think self defense, I think it's more. So because I don't know what you're here for right? And you have coming into my house unannounced, and you clearly have ill-intent I'm going to neutralize this threat before it does something that I can't control right? And that's really what I believe at that point. That's one of the reasons I believe in the second amendment, but we don't get into the segment because we letting. Yeah. Last time again to second amendment discussion on this on this podcast. I got out of hand late on in the parking lot. I don't know. Anyway. I. Oh. Store. Anyway. Which which asked you have in case need evidence. So. That was that was pity. Last. We didn't get the the hashtag again is we've got to do a special special emphasis, especially over that last one I leased Jay Z DA b-sat show to reopen the legendary Wellesz to Harlem, New York, and he brought camera and Jim Jones on stage. They d- welcome to New York City, and he lick Cam Jim do dips at anthem, and I'll when I saw videos, I lost it. I wish I could've been there. Like that my dream before I leave this earth is to go to another Jay Z concert, but I wanna go to a small room concert. Like, I hope he does I don't I don't wanna go to another arena concert. I wanna go to a small room concert so shots him. But he also brought is on stage to dead presidents. Presidents the represent me get money just think about the Evelyn hip hop just just in that that tuxedos on. I thought that was so fly that house black royalty. But then but more so than anything else shot Jay for dropping some gyms around nifty. What his what he was doing? And what his what he was doing in the community by back the block, man. Oh, just genius yet. I mean, a lot of people were trying to do is take hot takes on that. I'm sorry to cut you off. They were trying to make hot takes on that and say that when he got gentrify your own who like, no, no, I think you're I think you re looking for a reason to criticize that particular phrase, right? As relates to what he was saying about him. And it's a lot of stuff hip hop where people say the wrong thing. But you know, exactly what they mean. Jay said that for a reason because the words get your attention. Right. So I'm gonna leave that alone. But even even the concept is is just grouchy. Just go back like get a collective am by your own. I was just actually one of my friends. She was asking me. She was she I told her what topics were and she mentioned it to me should be listening to this. And she texted me. And I said, you know, we talking about you know, we I think people would just look in the criticizing out of context of whatnot. But I said, you know, one issue that I have she said that gentrification gentrification about who's doing it. So whether it's Jay Z buying the block or Donald Trump, if you're displacing poor people kinda purposely to make a profit, you're gentrifying, fair essay. But I think another point that we had to consider when that being talked about is that these I our own people are afraid to live around our own people. You know, when you buy when you when you when you make a little bit of money, and you you get some decent creditor whatnot. The first thing we do is go to these white enclaves, white suburbs. We don't ever look at some of the more modest. Homes in our own areas. And so I mean, they can't gentrify they can't buy it from you, very true. And when our grandparents that first name, we do, you know, we sell it off there. We all wanna have come down here and take the maintenance and all that and yada yada yada for some people, it's understandable for some Yod live in the same city, and they never moved out stop selling your grandparents houses man that quick money that you're going to blow in six months by dump. She that that that ain't worth the legacy that your grandparents built within that house and the generations of love that have been felt in that house, man. So I give I give with with the OJ was and I'm just trying to. I'm trying to get myself together over the next year. So man years change, I can buy me a house. I wanna buy in a black neighborhood. I wanna you know, I think because and it took my friend back home. Tell me that she thinks it's important for that little black boy down the street to see, you know, MS Wilson, get up every morning and go to her good job as a professional as a black working professional every day in the kind of impact you can have on that neighborhood. And those kids seeing that everyday letting them know that they can be from. They can do something to more than just, you know, this or that or or working odd jobs here in odd job there. I think more of us need to have that idea. But that goes back to my earlier. Yeah. So. Comes full circle shutouts shots at new shadow today. That's topics gaffer today man, which which one until the people get out of here. Protect your tribe. Don't hurt. Nobody this week. I'm try not to but she's Nosema heart. I don't know, man. I just you know, I I really have kind of reached a point where I'm trying to figure out how to have more of an impact in the community. And and I'm kind of feeling my sleepiness right now. So just trying to figure that out. So y'all just pray for me. I. And his final close hours in the words of one of one of our oh friends of the show particular piece number one number two. What I wanna tell you is don't be afraid you own people. I know we always talk about this year. You got bad crown? But you got no problem going over these chicken wings, talk to the people in the community people in the community might learn something another thing is man. And this is most important. Pay attention to the energy that people bring into your life like don't ever. Don't here's thing. Like, you can't cheat life. You can't cheat energy. You can't cheat people's true intentions for you as long as you're listening. So if somebody comes into your life, and they make you smile and make you happy they make you joyful. But if somewhere and you're good like, you feeling something wrong, don't ignore it. You know, 'cause some of the people that you love the most out of people that hurt you the worst. And and sometimes you gotta understand that. And that's what they are. Nothing wrong with you pay attention today energy, pay attention to who they are what they bring to you. And don't fool yourself into believe in people are anything other than who they are. Because they they like that for a reason. And guess what no matter how much love you give them. You can't change them line period. That's just a piece of advice. I want to give for myself to the audience there'd be as it for free ninety nine foot free ninety nine oh, also black people if you're over age thirteen take your black therapy all of us needed every single black person this country needs therapy big facts, so coming a just quick announcement coming up, hopefully, not next week's episode. But the episode after that will be a special episode on that I'm going to be recording with two guests hosts in Houston one's gonna be jewels. The host of pretty petty politics, which is another podcast. And then the other one is a special guest video director movie director show director, just videographer. Supreme we're gonna talk we let her talk about our show that she has coming up. Up as well. As some other projects she has coming up as well, so videos, those that are of a artistic value in that the nasty con. Wait a minute. I don't know. Yuck. Yum. I feel I feel like you judge might be like, you merely point hope, sir. I was just simply asking what kind of is she direct, but your mind with one went in the gutter. Listen, how you see I'm saying, you know, what we're not going to shoot. Man, like, you said particular tribe, like I'm saying particular fees and pay attention people's energy and pay the value that they bring to your life that being said we'll catch out next week. Don't hurt. Nobody like was it. Bye.

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BGN #161 I Women In Hollywood with Tessa Thompson, Olivia Wilde and Numa Perrier

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BGN #161 I Women In Hollywood with Tessa Thompson, Olivia Wilde and Numa Perrier

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Learn more at national partnership dot org forward slash stand together. Thanks for tuning in episode. One sixty one of the black girl nerds podcast. My name is Jamie. And I'm your host. This is a very special episode. We have three important incredibly entertaining segments for you. And each of these segments are films that are all directed by women so very excited to bring to you this episode and also each of these films have not yet premiered. So you're going to get a behind the scenes sneak peek at these movies some will premiere later in the year, and in the near future and one film premieres this month, so really excited to bring to you some of the cast and crew and the talent behind each of these films, respectively in inner first segment features the film little woods directed by Kosta. This segment includes the filmmaker NIA Kosta, an actress Tessa Thompson who we love a favourite. Here. The black girl nerds podcast in our second segment is the film book smart which made its premiere at the south by southwest film festival. That dome is directed by actress Olympia wild, and it's her feature film debut in our third segment is the film jazz Abell which also made its premiere at the south by southwest film festival directed by Numa Perrier's. She's the co founder of black and sexy TV so sit back relax and enjoy. This women empowered filmmaking episode of the black girl nerds podcast episode, one sixty one women in Hollywood. Little is about a small North Dakota racking BoomTown that's well beyond its prime. Actress Tessa Thompson plays Ali a woman trying to survive the last few days of approve Asian after getting caught a legally running prescription pills over the Canadian border. The film is directed by a ward winning filmmaker Nina Kosta, who has another exciting film coming out next year. The new Candyman film, Tessa Thompson. Of course, you can catch later this month playing the role of Valkyrie in the avengers and games, though, this following segment features interviewer cat combs and both Tessa Thompson and NIA DeCosta. Yes. Me more. Littlewoods? I watched it like twice already. I'm in love it so much. Thank you so much. I don't know why this film just resonated with me so much that sisterly bond, even the location is going through a political and social stresses. So why do you think this foam is so necessary for today? I mean, I was someone rob Obama's president and the Affordable Care Act was just rolling out. And I was writing at not because I was like this needs to be super now. But I am you. It was a reality for for people from living in rural parts America in particular, north western this oil, boom sort of area, and then, you know, our president came around, and it became so much more than than so much more anything necessary to sort of see people. In a different light. I honestly, I dunno sandwich. Shop actually how much this will not means a different context. Even though I didn't make it in that context. Because I just never want to be this way. But. I mean, that's art. Basically what you make something before. It's even super relic. I've always had the intent of wanting to humanize things that are often politicized that was important to you from jump. And now it just we really need that. Yeah. It's going to be more than we did before. But when I was writing it, I heard why do I want there to be an abortion of the phone was because like the women's like, the warm women was everyone was calling. It was happening in earnest how so happening. But you know, we talk about things in cycles, and it was so just super political Super Bowl legislation, but not all about people. Dumps it legislation is porn. I've seen the way they talked about. It was about like just numbers. And it wasn't about humans experiences on why people do things to do. And where and how like, wow, I really just wish we talk about this on the point of view a woman or to you know. And so that was always always going to be I think relevant when when made about people about politics. Seeking of your chew female characters. When writing those catches how much of it was kind of like treats, the view and you get in through and from right? I think even if I try not to parts of me all these characters better. I. I think I always thought about like remedy knows like the number one writing tip. I guess and I always super literally when I was younger. When I was younger. I guess I read about like a black girl. Would've been. Right with, you know, mostly so I noticed like to have a sister and have a complicated relationship. I that slide to like Ali be like one of the only few want people in space, whatever that's for me. It was high school and some college for her. It's her own tire. Tom. I know what it's like to the gate not having a lot of money. But not this not in the fact that it wasn't like this is what really drew me to to win until the story. What was your initial? So you have. Yeah. Tons about what brought you to this project. What what did you gravitate towards I gravitated first and foremost to and that in the context of work shopping the project with her this and was really struck by her talent. I also just in terms of potential collaborator. I loved how honest. She was. I liked it. She didn't mince words. I liked it when she gave praise. It was scarce enough that you believed it. Oh. I enjoy that. I love it. She took you know, she'd have like her system shut down slightly for a second multi can criticism. And then she would just go into fixing it and making it better. And so she was dream collaborator. You know, she presented herself as a dream collaborator entrance of how she how she move through space at the laps. And then I mean, the story was very different in some ways, then, but it was a work in progress. Obviously as it is always a mess stage. But but something that to me was. Really beautiful with the system and my have three sisters relate to that. And I understand how complicated beautiful those relationships are. And then also just dealing with poverty. No way. That felt I don't know that you understood in a real way consequences of things that could seem inconsequential. You know, I grew up in inside of experiences. Young woman more like, you know, we didn't have a car for a period from go to the grocery store and come home with a cart. You know? What I mean like how that affects the way the move through life. What opportunities do you think are going to be available to you? So this idea that your choices are only to your options really resonated with me because that was something that I had to like breakthrough as young as young as young woman and watching my mom sort of navigate raising me and my sister in. Yeah. There is so much just sort of personally that I resonated with. But also likely I grew up in a place like, Los Angeles. That is insular, you know, might we'll move to places I really spent time with in spent time in in my formative years were Los Angeles and New York really the only thing that got me out of those places was working then and being suddenly in like, a husky North Carolina and be like a hundred even we're not in Kansas anymore. You know, what I mean and having to unpack my own relative privilege, even inside of growing up being with not all the money until I think the opportunity to get out side myself to be able to to understand what it is like to grow up in a rural part of America made me feel sort of closer to what it means to be American that I that. I don't wanna have a limited scope on what it means to be an American because come from a progressive place. I think I wanted like I want to know about at all I'm curious about it, all and miss this project. The opportunity to be more curious. Yeah. I've like if only we could all just watching films like this kind of have the same open mindedness to others around us since I wonder, what do you what do you put me about is is take away from this film? Everybody's one thing. But also like yesterday, but I was talking to my friend about words that mean a lot of long paragraph is with definition. But there, and this is where it saunder, which means the realization that people around you are leading these lives are just as complex, and the special end is unique is yours, but you're completely unaware of it. And that's I think that's a to not relation of. Oh, I'm moving the road people who have as many concerns enjoying them lives and everything that I have. And it's just the difference is the context, I think it's really important. Do you have anything? She. So elephant. Also, I think we got some of the same king because I'm like that too. Kind of like the beginning. We were like we should do you like the same things that I like. The other writer, and now director kind of the same scope of things do you think Hollywood is moving upward trajectory in terms of having women of color street told him just getting your presence out there for sure, but you know, like how if a really steep can go around the mountain, slowly, that's sort of what's happening. I still we're going up like that. But there's definitely movement being made, you know, like are mazing women living colored black women filmmakers who came before me who've made my current career half multi, the, you know, the wacko Bush on prison like, you know, which is one person's paving the next person's like putting dashes on the road. So we know excited to go. You know what I mean? I like that. And I'm just like unkind like I'm walking on tyrant. Now. You know? So next person is building convenient six. Yeah. Every mile out to the gas station. It's been great. And I've had not just people can for me. But people who worked with me who are wonderful and supportive, including Tessa who's you know has. Become someone with enough pull to let you know. No. I really do feel like women. No, I'm actually important to note. But that that wasn't necessarily the case when you make like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's cool. Yeah. I was in like because she was. But no. But I think I really did feel like women like actresses and directors him of our allies. I think we we support each other in Bill each other up and not such an important relationship. Really grateful. The black girl nerds podcast will be right back. After a word from our sponsor Carroll is a monthly subscription vitamin service that delivers completely personalized vitamin and supplement packs right to your door you can spring into a healthy routine. With the winter blues coming to an end, it's finally time to get back into a routine that empowers your healthiest you need a little energy for that spring cleaning, right? 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And and the truth is women have been top one movie since movies existed. You know, like just is true. It isn't like a new thing. So, but yeah, I think we're I think we're coming. She'll be coming around the mountain. She is kind of what? Is kind of what's happening? But she is I think, and then you know, and and the truth is we make room for each other. What I loved about folks like a juvenile for sample is like the you don't wanna be the exceptional one. I mean, we don't want him assist inside of a system that allows a couple of us. We just wanted to snatch the system then. And so that that's what I'm interested in. And and I feel like the time is ripe for that. I mean, it's really heartening to me I feel so lucky to get to work on his first feature. It's rather than her next feature is happening. So soon after she's made the happening on the studio level, and Mike whatever if there's not room at the table, we'll just make our own table, but it's impactful for her to internet space. It just is because it creates comps because we're in it's wild that were inside of industry that literally is all about imagination people lack it terms of middle school hard roll over fish can happen. And then folks load come along leave up again, and it's great, and we'll just continue to do that. And so I think we're coming around. I've new we're like those like little patches where we like run out yet. Yeah. Like shoots and ladders. Yeah. Issues in letter. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And we got to like said. Crush. Yeah. However, the other. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You gotta send out a rope. Like, and what's so cool to think we've been silent off so much the thing that's been inspiring in the last, you know, while for me, particularly inside of like, you know, post Weinstein time's up spaces. I'm just in the company of women across industry lunch. So much more often now and so now it's like when you're on mountain. There's someone above or below you're going are you how are you? Tracheal well, where you just realize everyone to your teeth, the metaphor that you laid out to everyone's like whacking weeds around each other. And then you realize you're over there too can need. Let's let's do this together. We'll be easier. And I think I feel like that's happening. One one quick thing. You have any advice for future filmmaker writer directors that are working on their first feature film. Nubia obviously, you can get a great AD because it's yeah. They'll get producers. I could give you like fluffy lake, but like practically like get a good date and get a great producer. And that's. Fluffy one and also dream reach them. Stop. Doc. Okay. Before I knew little what's happening. And before I thought I'd have a career period. I kind of came to this realization that like the work has to be enough because you won't was rewarded for not rewarded. But then he won't be able to make your movie or go to another. You know? So the work of the enough. It has to be the states you. And then through that hopefully, you keep working, and then hopefully, eventually you get to work on the the levels that you want to work on. That's a lot. Pragmatic? Yes. Think. Nice to be your answer. Thank you. Told from a wildly original fresh and modern perspective. Book smart is an unfiltered comedy about highschool best friends and bonds, we've create to last a lifetime capturing the spirit of our times. The film is a coming of age story for a new generation director Olivia Wilde is featured in this clip along with actors, Kaitlyn Dever, beanie Feldstein and Billy Lord also writer, Katie Silverman is included in this group roundtable interview, and the interviewer in this segment is yours truly enjoy. Sorry. My permanent. Energy. Love movies, fun and our own. Funnest furious. And I just want. Open. Right. What is this? Thank you. Drafting does. Wondered what the teacher Drexel? Stay. Currently. Served me strove. Said Namie MOF. Movies and. T the Jerry anthems, and he. Club. Heart who? There are. Really? Never. I see how dating. People. These are. Law. We'll stay and how involved they are fiery. The january. Credible ears. Levers darvish. So it really was extrordinary Peter now tell. Of women and their. Because of the way. Way. Part of the Phillies that is furthering. Those says celery. I'm see all. Is rooted on. Varies. That's laurie. Now role for this film. And. Annuity? Very collaborator. And I. Creative series with. Who came on? Right. And that's to to create rain trusts exchange of energy than LA's your own is like, I think. I think. I for. Now this. I'm watching. So why? Yours. This is true. Off of this. Fun. We all. To your religiously. When particularly find solace. Underestimate. Issue as this. We see a lot of holidays route years was over both Mark. I think that one particularly I to commit and just see the apart. Was that the coming of age story said we were the ones that changed our lives and stay with us to me stories that are fun and funny enough that you want to rewatching a hundred times, but there are lessons in change leaves yourself to movies like clueless and fast the breakfast club you wash every day. And that's why to your to your brain. And so I think we were able it was very saying to be in tire. We fell could make a really funny comedy about women who were different because a lot of time calms limiter one. Detroit angle because we're so different all funding to seek ways. So I think the details Dory. How magic is especially your first best friend who's really your soulmate that I really test relationship. Not only how will they are. How lucky women are able to love their grants the way that they do that get your spoon, and we say that saying what he all the time give to the in a wrench. Renta and feel to shun away on that. While also show how visual in the. Amazes me to watch every day. We we under because it new this laugh, but you look thread throughout these is not just the friendship about how many to of understanding also dimensional understand that other women their lives to divisional that was what was exciting view until the story. Now fill a really big moment to give especially unbelievably funny young actresses. Who were all superstars artemisia thing? I remember last year. Isn't for me? Grain. Case. So funny. It's remember some no comment. It's one of my friends, and he plays George who is the director head of you that are full. And we we go. Contender relationship and so put down here. I was you. Really? On alter ego. Molly who. Sleaze better. Right. Yes. Musical useful. Audie. Started. Office. You grew music artists. You were. Did I was really I being my. On this. Your. Really awesome. But. Shung or? Ready? Really? Yong feeling loss. Yeah. Over. County at the hour. Wrestle. Yeah. So we're like building rewatching. Fiery because I read that this film. Inspiration. Generally watch fast times law. I, but I also drew a lot of my inspiration from my crazy up rate. You know? A lot of eccentric while women, and I kinda channel that into g. Heart. Yeah. Action. He writers and producing was that. Size me that it was. To make sure those take a lot of. He so very too. Is awesome example. And she. Her. So. We will from village. I. Reserve insurance is onstage Rouge who are visit. And now we reviews in user. Rectal. This is wrong. Calling today's no every will. We down. Goes down. We are. We are. As. No less. Join other. Grew. Say. They have. In the last days of her mother's life. Nineteen year old Tiffany crashes with five family members and a loss bega studio -partment in order to make ends meet her older sister of phone sex operator introduces her to the world of internet fetish, Cam girls, starring Tiffany to kneel as Tiffany the only live black model at this new adult site and Numa perio- both director in actor who plays. Her sister is in the new film Cogez Abell, which made it stay byu at the south by south west foam festival this Boeing segment features, both Tiffany and director Numa Perry air who also wrote the script for the film, and the interviewer in this clip is again yours truly enjoy. We have an interest in film as a child. He was. Huge podcast discusses was there. One Bill or movement pass that live you to the decision was exactly what yours. I was really sheltered from hop culture as a kid. So I didn't watch a lot of movies. A lot of soap operas with my mom a lot of TV shows. But we never went to the movies. We never my parents were not into that. All so for me. It was more about had strong interest in writing and a strong interest in acting out stories that was acting and that developed into filmmaking as on the doll. But yeah, as a child, it was more about storytelling and fantasizing things and creating characters and stepping into them and playing and having fun, and then realizing of also career passes an extension of my artistry. What would you be open to tell the story? It's based on your real life experiences and to the big screen part of it. And I'm seeking to understanding myself understanding things that I've I've gone through that have lived, and there's so much there. I had a very conventional upbringing unconventional circumstances that led to another just kind of a czar. A life that just shape too. I am as a woman and. In the beginning. I I wrote jets by wasn't telling people that it was my shoot story. It was through some mentorship with the script and talking about it and feeling as I was talking about it than before. I said it was my true story. I thought like I was lying because I was always talking about the catcher and such a removed way even had different names at first. And so it was through some really good mentors. When I can best. It was my two story. They're like, oh, I mean, you have to Fe that it's true story, you know, and once I kind of remove that protective barrier, everything everything better the development of everything became deeper. More personal also it's very clear that I earn the right to tell the story mantis Puckett to do something some facial. It's my it's my truth. And it's my story. So I was through the help Darden's of other creative women so bad that. That that happened, you know, and I trusted them and then began to trust myself as well simply walking through process like when even preparing for this role, something when you MOS through it, or did you talk to other women that were involved in the internet industry, kinda get sense of what this half was that you about to go on was so great because you gave me a lot of room to just explore it for myself. The first thing I wanted to do interview her interested like soak into her world. And so we definitely got a time where I just interviewed her and spend some time in her blog and just you don't have that. Building everything Instagram's who is joining those already like in love with new of love her. I really do. I was fan of I take to them to roll. And then I I watched a documentary on about Kim girls y'all with. It was one on Netflix. But it was also use one of giving don't remember the name of it on. And it was just so fun because Newman was always there there to talk to me by any questions, but I will send her photographs of some of the things. Yeah. Was Sparc processor because the script was done completely when I can. And so and also I Jackson was a huge inspiration your new Michelle Mugniyah Newman, Jeremy that she used to Avella album as what I wrote this. Yeah. From that time and all of her albums of pollen sexual, but it was even more. So and it just it got through the script. Yeah. Great. How like for? And like, you just Jessica is some by shut. About every day. But also just lot for myself mid unless share so many similarities share the same name or Tiffany. And we both adopted and we both are birthdays days. Aren other tired and just aren't steady. It's very similar say. That's what I did to get. To I'm the final. Yeah. Like, you get them in a room and incite. Way. So. Yeah. Release. How? How where did they just from? So just about. Always a named. I thought was pretty has a pretty sound to it. And I remember the first time that I've heard the name, but I learned pretty quickly. Once I liked the name that it was not a name that you should give anyone the bad is calling a hor- comes someone, you know, hussy lives. I didn't know the for summer heard the sound of the name that had the connotation, but I live very quickly. So I was always kind of disappointed in that. Because I like the way the I think it's a pretty name. I said, well, okay. It's not just about that. I guess is about, but I just think of names came to Isabel. But yes, so when it when it came time for me to choose the name use my no maim work was it was perfect. And I'm like, oh, there's a place to the sign the name would actually works. I liked the way vans already. And so it was always about. I was. Known as jazz. No, well, just such a from like, the very first scene reels you N like when you're on the phone during that. Hey sabrina. Next. Call. What what was it this story that makes beside? Okay. This is something that deadly want to. I always felt like it could make a did movie. But I put it to the back of my mind, the back of my drawer, and I wasn't ready to wasn't ready addenda even clean and broadcast. It's my true story. But I always had a little voice in the back of my head of I should do something with this. And that got really quiet and got really loud one getting really loud. When I knew I needed to do something about it. Like, it's time in there was enough distance that even now I know that I lived that. I know I did that word. I know that it's me, but it doesn't feel like anymore. I don't feel rocked by in any way. It all makes sense like everything led to him today in all make sons now and maybe a few years ago. Whether I haven't if about detachment to project artist, so yeah, I've been to time it was supposed to take. Tickets time. And then once I decided together Boone will. Really everything happened. Exactly when it happened. I mean on every asset right is down to the lender. We weren't shopping. One of the piece I have on work call jazz Bill. Yeah. Lawns from on beautiful pieces in. Yeah. Yeah. He's alive. Billy. I have so many stories like that even after we got into south by and an executive producer came on board. And his name is Bobby. Never bob. You're will me. I didn't change the name. You know? The names of the actual, Bobby Bobby, Bobby, Bobby and Bobby still my life today and Bobby new I was going to use. You know, the only thing I changed was he's to use a different like in the movie Bobby two-three was like Bob through to something. But. The reason why the exact one that he used to really use of me in because he uses. For all. He I think he wants. To find out because he's like. He's like these that if you keep laughed, but how is it that executive producer when we need money. Comes through and his name is Bobby. He loved that. And we got the movie finished, you know. And so come on. And then when he's and he didn't without even released seeing movie because he was I'm here. He was here for the premiere yesterday. And I was watching it. He leaned over looked at me like I've tried to tell you. Bobby in the movie, but. He loves it. So proud of. Happy. Yeah. From your from your last night. And I was received. It was sold out standing. I was learning. Alligators. Agents see hunting of my. It was great. It was great has some people get to see, but they'll be back to and so. It's been awesome to have much bud excitement around and this story is really going to get out there. And they're curious, you know, and then, but then there's the bottom to as well, there's hard to go. I'm ready to talk on here to fill this. I'm going to come see already. A ticket. And I'm like. Like. Her like jazz about who. She as. Yeah. I like the Muthu. Outside enough. Now, we're just kind of the moving. You know? Going. The press kit for the movie is think. Speak to the essence of what this is. Very interesting where the details about the webcam industry is you know, should be very how that industry works. It was interesting to see how easy it is get in from like titties audition. Right. Workers. And that was true story. I walked in. I was higher on spot tonight. I remember those words this very easy to write the script. You know? And yeah. It's very transient industry. So you have you know, so that the the doors Bobby quickly, you know, women are coming in and quitting the next day, not showing up or, but me, I stay little Mitch, and I stayed and I developed it, and I've stayed until the money got that. So why did you you? Why did you decide to just quickly say, yes, I'll start tonight. Because in that moment when she gets hired. She starts that ninety. She needs me. Yeah. She's ready. There. It's time. She was on a mission and she accomplish machine curious and interested in like okay about hired. Okay. I jog now. That was a big thing for the family like everyone to get a job by the end of the movie. Villi Ombo slow flung. That it was more than just also the money because it was a moment where we see these character. She's a she's eating calling Princess. Very daiki. And you know, and she seems like she wants to be seen was that. She sure does want it. She has that streak in her and she discovers it as she pushes into it. And her sister can see it and wants to exploited. But also wants her to know that that resolve. So she can use it for her own devices, you know, and that's been my relationship with my sister, like cheese constantly feeling to me lion. Me. Right. When you know when she comes in there, you can talk about how in the character development of it. But you know, it's it's a mix of those things. It's like she wants to make money she her own money. So curious about what's behind door. What is what is she about to walk into? And she's kind of. You play that so beautifully. I mean when you first introduce her to the at I love, you don't cower you. Actually, it's gorging eighty elephants. On. It's because me sometimes I go to the victim. I do I will go to the sadness of it or the heart like, the I don't usually go to the joy and Bruna say does that's to sorrow or let's find some different curiosity joy while you're right in my life Thurs how I am. So harden of relation to. Wow, I really do go to that place of being sad. I don't know what that is. But was there? Resonating with the most this process. He. Many something actually one of the scenes very first week scene. Because new even know this new first of all new was always we were seeing endows their like, she she had to be a mother director. She had to put a producer hat on. So it was just a lot of those moments. Sometimes as the character also me I was just like, I wouldn't it was attention right now. I won't she doesn't see me. I nor and. The character. These. Feeling. My sister doesn't see me. She's putting all these other people young, brother. But she's putting the men before me like I wanna be need. So that scene as so special because I feel like she finally sees me on the character usually goes to the bathroom cry son or motion for that to happen in the bathroom in her to be comforted by her sister. Really doesn't emotion touch me so much favorite scene. Guys that is one of my favorite moments in the movie definitely that first week scene. Because I remembered something very similar happened between sister nine. Yeah. Just that moment of like, we're mama just die, and we're just carrying on and my sister. And I whenever really affectionate with each other. There was movement wide just broke down crying. And she held me and inside. Oh, it's all coming. It's all rushing to you now. And it was the first time magazine, I was kind of seen by my sister in that way. And I never looked at it quite that way. But that scene as is. It means a lot to me just to see two black women together comforting each other. And that I really wanted to I lead that scene have all air and possible. So that we just stay with them through that whole process from a real time type of that was really important. Only one. Take those special. Yeah. What are you will take away and they lost? To be excited. Lead into our sexualities leave until the next ration- of that in the fun of that love this film is not victims. Yeah, we're powering his Strom. She is funny. She is. She knows since she owns it. And I wore black women. We aren't we always have want us to vote comfortable walkie in our truth. No matter what that truth is walking in our sexuality and saying this is me just like every other part of me as me, you know, what I mean. And I want us to be proud of that. And I love this film. Really captures. Yeah. Very similar to me. I just want people to be Howard by their sexuality, whatever that is for them just embrace it and not be ashamed of is especially in the black community. If you come from a violent bump in family, like I have you know, you that's not a thing. Like, we we have to conceal that are self mascot. So. Yeah, I feel empowered by play. Jessica. More coming in my sexuality, and I don't have to show my body to do that. But then the new way I walk and carry myself, and people hope people can see that as a me look in the mirror and level of. So do good about yourself in chairs their relationships with their family said this before like sisterhood and siblings. So important as a person was Dopp did my sister, my biological sister. We were put together she was everything to me. She was the only thing only true family biological family that I knew at the time. And so I just wanted to like even if you not close with your family anymore just reach outed. That's the only family you have guessed friends could become family, but it's nothing like having identity with someone who's been to the jury. Thanks. The black girl nerds podcast is produced by Jamie broad next. The opening theme song to our show is written warmed by Sama's various instrumentals performed by famous sky blue and ship Zillah, you can find various episodes at the black earth talk cast on itunes, Stitcher. Soundcloud, audio boom, Google play music and Spotify.

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Ep. 62 MIB: International Review

Plaza Podcast

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Ep. 62 MIB: International Review

"Ooh. Welcome to the plaza podcast episode sixty two my name's Chris, and I'm Joel as all you guys know, we are listener supported, and we are very thankful for all the patriots that we have we have multiple tiers with lots of different rewards, and giveaways that you get for each tier. So if you liked to check that out to help support us all you have to do is go to patriot dot com forward slash plaza cinema four. We'd also lacked a thinker sponsor next level laser tag. A new company, serving wise and surrounding counties. Call nine four zero six to seven next to book your mobile party today, or check their website out at WWW dot next level, laser tag dot com. Right. So today's episode we will be reviewing the minimum black international and. I guess you could say this wasn't something that. I guess was like a must see on a lot of people's list. It's not super hyped. Yeah. No one was would lease knowing that I know was like this is the movie they wanted to see, you know, because when was the last one may. Like two thousand thirteen. Maybe it's been a while. Yeah. Maybe even know even older even older. I gotta look it up real fast. No. I just now got thinking about that. So, which it stars Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson with which of course, both of them starred in Thor ragnarok. Yeah. Valkyrie and or so weird. But in Thor ragnarok, they had some really good chemistry. I think they they definitely did. And they did in this move as well. Yeah. And, and I think it all off each other. They do. And, you know, Chris is a he's really he's a lot funnier than people. Oh, yeah. Ever since ragnarok, that's kind of like, switch because dark world was horrible. And no one liked it. And then all the sudden like ragnarok cap. And, and it kind of changed his whole. Well, oh, and also he was in the not very good vacation sequel, just called vacation. Where he played like the sisters husband. I. Yeah. And he was whole Larry in that, like he was talking. He just kept talking about the water or something. And like I don't know. Just so funny. He was making Ed Helms laugh. He is really funny. Yeah. And I, I think they really need to let him shine a little bit more. Two thousand twelve by the way, two thousand twelve seventy seven years. That's a long time. Yeah, but I know comedy is like his John rea- at is because when he first came into Hollywood they made him like the action star pretty boy. Yeah. You know, and he honestly he wasn't very good at that, like, at least for the, the movies they had him in. I didn't used to like him really at all. But now like even though he is really cool. And Ken still be the action star. He's he his role. I think is comedy. Yeah. He's, I'm starting to have starting to like him a little bit more. He's kinda growing on me for sure. So with this movie, which you said, was directed by f Gary gray and his, I guess you could say fame his claim to fame on, sir on some movies were what the Earl one of the earliest big ones. He directed was the Italian job alight. Yeah. He did straight out of Compton, which was a pretty big hit was giving garner, some Oscars, or I think so. And then he did the fate of the furious as well. So, okay. So some pretty big definitely now watching this movie this morning. And seeing some of the I guess you could say some of the critics on rotten tomatoes. And then I ended up watching a couple reviews on YouTube, which, again, one YouTube, when you to the other youtuber loved it. So they were they were it's everything seems to be split. And I really think with rotten tomatoes, they had the same thing because the critics was it's it's twenty six percent right now. And then with a seventy five percent on the audience score. I it's, it's crazy. The less four movies have been like that completely. So here's the thing. Here's here's the question. I have why is that? Why are we getting this such of a large split annot, I, maybe people are just going in with low expectations, and so they're not really. Having to sit down and dissect it and think about it in the summer. I feel like people just want to be entertained, and they're not certain necessarily looking for how, how much quality is in this film. They as long as it makes them laugh has some cool scenes stuff like that people seem to be kind of okay, with, whatever they're given at this one, I'm kind of thinking, like you know, they want. They want a popcorn munching movie. Yeah. That's kinda what it seems like. An are. They entertained, did they sit in enjoy it. And of course, the summer most of kind of people wanna get out of the heat is that kind of the case, just anyone, but they're also taking the time to put a review up on tomatoes, so they obviously like movies. It's not just random people. Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's not like here. Like we're asking everybody that comes. Out of the theater, you know, give us your thoughts. I mean, there's some people at the when they come to the box office window that they'll ask you is what he did you see this movie. Now most of the time, I'm the one in there. And he said, yeah, you'll love it. You know what about supposed to say to a movie, especially dark Phoenix? You know all I thought all week is like, please, God, no one asked me, what I thought of dark Phoenix, please. No. Because you're just out to straight applied home. Yeah. Do I lie to say, hey, come by ticket? You know, but I won't tell you I didn't have to because box office numbers showed very, very weak on the destroyed. Lowest of the whole franchise. Yeah. So, you know, people do ask, you know about movies, and then, of course, these people on rotten tomatoes or definitely they like movies, you know, they wanna give their opinion. Everybody wants to be heard, you know, give their thoughts. So watching men in black. And of course you just got out of it. And so you're always extremely fresh after it comes out. So it's it I know it's kinda hard to, you know, think about it, but and I will actually, I think this time, I'll go. I kind of give you some, you know, 'cause normally you or you're going to rate it. Well, I, I will rate it, but I'm going to give some thoughts. I'm gonna give some thoughts. Okay. For some reason I thought you were just going straight up rate. I, I was like, okay here we go. No, no. I do have I do have a rating that I have not fluctuated. Okay. It was a rating after all the movie, and I've sat that would would that number is what popped in my head. And that's what I'm sticking with. Okay. I will say this. Like I told you before we went on air, it is not the dark Phoenix. Yeah. Okay. So safe to say it is not the dark Phoenix. Otherwise, we wouldn't be doing this podcast because floss week said it's, it's worse than Phoenix, but you know what though I actually kind of enjoyed it, it was refreshing 'cause I, I remember watching them in black series or franchise. Obviously, I, I still don't think it's none of them are going to top the first one because that's what started it all. And it was really it was really well made and unique. Can fresh unique in a like the Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones character now. Obviously, they do give some references back to minimum black. The painting the painting. And also remember when Will Smith at the beginning when he gets into 'em? I be any touches like that ball that goes everywhere. And he's like, oh my bad. Touch something. And it everything just goes all over the floor. Oh, yes. That's kind of like a nod to. Okay. Yeah that no, I didn't. It's been so long since I've seen the first one, so, yeah, that slipped my mind. But that's a good callback. Yeah. So there was some there was some nice call backs for sure. Definitely like we were saying the chemistry between Chris, and Tessa. I really enjoyed. I really I really wish they would have done more with it. If I needed a gripe, a little bit relationship wise, or well, just more of them. Dive more into it. Now. I didn't find the bad guys as interesting. They, they didn't have personality the like the last ones. So I need I one and more on that. But I to me, I did like it, but I felt like the movie just kinda it was a little slogging slow start or. It didn't really have too much pace, I thought in my opinion like I you know, I wanted a little bit more it was just like step by step by step and. I did figure something. I did figure it out. Wasn't really hard to figure. Oh, yeah. The from a mile so they didn't hide that very, very well at all. So that was something in, obviously, we don't want to say because I would spoil the entire movie and but I think everyone that watches it and they'll have to see coming, but Chris committee comedic performance. I lo- I did like he. He was very funny, and I, but I do think one of my favorite characters was Ponti. Oh, yeah. For sure. Camille non-jury some. Yeah. I don't really remember how to pronounce his last name on Geely or something. He is hilarious. He does amazing as a pony, and he was great. And he after he got introduced that's when more of it seemed more interesting. And of course, the even the short amount of time that she was in it, Emma Thompson still phenomenal. I mean, I don't think she can she do a bad real. I don't know have to look at her filmography and see. But she's great. Yeah, she's always good. I think it's the accent that helps though you know have probably in she British think, so for mainland and. But you know she did good. I mean I thought there would be more of her but. Just in the beginning. Yeah. And then at the end. But I, I actually sat I actually enjoyed this movie I thought it was a decent summer movie like, okay, this is like I was saying earlier, I think it's, it's I think it's a good sit down grab you some popcorn and soda sit back and being Embiid. Be entertained. So yes, this movie did entertain me. I don't think that. I think the critics were a little hard on it, and I don't know why I think they were a little too hard for the I lean more toward the score for the audience versus what the critics are. I gave it a seven point six. Okay. Well, that's pretty good. So that's what I'm giving it. All right. Well, so for me, I think. It jumped ahead quickly. You get into the into the which I like you get into the story quickly. There's not a lot of back story for tests, Thompson's character. There's one little scene, and which some people might complain. Oh, she found it too easy or whatever. But I kind kinda liked that it just kind of throws you into it quickly because this isn't going to be a deep character development, type movie. So there would be no point to, to lengthen that beginning. So, yeah, I enjoyed that. Like you've already stated the, the chemistry between both tests, and Chris was extremely well received by me. I guess the, the thing that I liked most out of their there. Chemistry was kind of, like the, the giving go, I guess they would kind of play at each other. There's never this feeling of. Oh, they're kind of falling in love. It was never that which I'm glad it was more of like a kindling of a friendship, which is exactly what the first one happened in the first one between Will Smith. And tell me Lumley Jones. Yeah. And so I, I really like that aspect that this was kind of a kindling of a friendship partnership, hopefully, and so, and when it kicked into it, there, I was, I did feel like they didn't explain some of the world so much, but I, I know they're expecting you to have seen the three of them already. So there was some stuff that kind of just comes flying at you, and you have to accept it, and without really understanding why. And so that a couple of things like. That caught me off guard. Like they're just like, here's this big plot of news that you haven't heard before. And you just have to digest it like in a second. You don't have time to chew it just thrown at you. So there was a couple issues in that realm. I thought the action, there's several pretty cool action scenes, I not so much cool. But funny and entertaining, yet the action remind me a lot of like an Indiana Jones type action something that's more comedic and playful rather than serious. Yeah. I did see that too. And that's what I enjoy, too. Yeah. So it's kind of just a feel good ride. I guess they take you on. There's nothing you're never I guess, on the edge of your seat thinking, oh my gosh. This character is about to die or this character is out today. It's more of a playful getting into trouble type. Action, which I thought Christians worth it. A really like honestly, I now that I'm talking about it. I could see Chris Hemsworth being the next India Jones. I think you'd be a perfect fit for that role. How funny I wanna say I saw it on Facebook. I think Harrison Ford said he didn't think there'd be ever be another Indiana Jones really well. I know they're were trying to kind of recast possibly for Indy five or yeah. Five, and I don't know. They've been having tons of trouble with that movie. It's going through another rewrite whatever but yeah, just because of Chris's character in this his playful witty smart, but it's not really shown very much leadership, call skills. All that. All that stuff. I just picture good indie. And he's not in. It's not like he's trying hard. Yeah, exactly. He just kind of goes with the flow -actly. Yeah. So I think that's what. Really, also makes it the movie for people to actually sit through intolerate you know, because there are going to be people that are going to bash this for. Sure. But what also saw is this movie could actually be almost any age like you could bring a little bit younger kids, you know, and I have two younger ones eight and eleven they loved it. They thought it was funny. And so, I think it can play into a little bit larger demographic, I think, so because even though it garnishes that PG thirteen rating, but I still think it's more of a softer PG thirteen early. I thought I mean, they had a quite a bit of language, but maybe I didn't pay attention to it much. I'm just as a. Yeah. There's several I mean, not it's not anything close to an are right. It's not it's all on that. It's not on that border line PG thirteen and all, yeah. No, that's what I'm nothing like that. But there was a couple swears here and there, but yeah. So I think the, the big issues for me were like I said, you gotta digest some pretty big things that are thrown at you. Some of the plot was not very thought out. I guess there wasn't a lot put into it. You, it's just kind of things where you're like, okay. We're going here. Now, we just accept that. And I honestly it didn't bother me that much, though. Like, for some reason, I with this movie, I guess 'cause I wasn't expecting some incredible storyline. That would just blow me away, like a Quentin, Tarantino story or something, right? I was expecting I was hoping Tessa Chris were funny. I was hoping the jokes landed which I thought almost all the jokes landed for me. And so, yeah, all this stuff about plot. There's definitely supply holes. You could point out not some muddled things here and there that they didn't really. Work, the kinks out of. But like I said those I kind of just let fall why the wayside because those kind of having fun with it, I guess, and I was too now in even the other the first three weren't like out of blown out of the water on rain. So, you know, you basically went in knowing into expect a typical men in black movie. You're gonna have comedy. You're gonna have the you know, you're not gonna have the Will Smith comedy in wits and then you're not gonna have the glad they didn't try to make Tessa have the right kind of fearing they might try to make her. She has she didn't even have I think she was different like they did kind of make them a little bit dif-, which I'm very thankful for didn't make it like a Will Smith. Tommy Lee Jones relationship in that they didn't make any one of them, like, okay, tens of hardened veteran. One is a new kid on the block. Yeah. Tessa actually knew more about some stuff than. Needed. So, yeah. So I did like how they did it that way. And that I can applaud for. But I, I did I really enjoyed this movie. Yeah. And I think the disparity between the critics and the, the audience is probably just the, the critics weren't willing to let go those things I mentioned, and some one of the things you mentioned, the, the villain, you know nameless faceless. Villain, basically. Yeah. Say whole lot. No personality. No. You could see the, the twist or the in coming from the very beginning almost like as soon as Tessa mentions. This one thing you basically guess who it is almost immediately or I did. And so that probably to may, they might have thought was lazy writing or whatever. Which it is annoying that they did that, like a lot of movies, use the same plot device. But like I said, and I guess, we'll probably keep going back to it was just fun. It was fun going on this kind of adventure with with the the these two main characters to new ones. Yeah. In that completely, you know, kind of like a completely different branch. You know, it was it was more focused 'em in the London area. Yeah. Or the different division division. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that was kind of cool and you know, it, it was like you had said, it's fresh. Score wise I. I, I was thinking, like five something, but I think I'm actually gonna barely. I'm gonna give it a six point. Oh, just so it's fresh. I didn't know if I was going to give it a fresh rating or not, but kind of African talking about it and just kind of ignoring some of that stuff. I, I think it was pretty fun. I guess I, especially going off the three movies, we've kind of hated, yes. Since summer began this kind of rejuvinated it for me. And so, yeah, I'll give it a fresh rating and to be honest. I don't think this is a bad movie for a little date night. Oh, yeah. That's a good date. Movie that yeah. And it's something it's something that's that is you both can like it's not something that only one of your going to sit, that's not John wick three which most women will just roll their eyes or romantic comedy that, you know, some, the Gaza. Like, yeah. Here a mix. Yeah. It's like it's, it's the middle both ran the middle. So. But yeah, you know, for sure finally, we got a decent movie to come. See that's seriously. Now. Now since we're going to transition, we have some movies coming out that supposedly, we are picking up here and I want to hear your thoughts on what your opinions are. And I'm gonna give you mine, and we're going to see 'cause they're too. I guess you could say hor there to horror flicks, basically. Now, obviously, we know we're getting Toy Story four. That's no question. There's no even no point to do a review over it. Because even right now it's sitting at one hundred percent on rotten to doing, I'm so happy, you know, we're going to see it. But we may wanna take I think we're gonna put a poll out to say, do you want us to review Toy Story for you know what? Yeah, yeah. We have to. So I think we're going to do a poll and we'll see voting. Yes. Hopefully you're not you're the only. One vote for. But, but also that comes out the same time as Toy Story. And how ironic child's play and their promotion for that movie has been hilarious, like the slinky on the end of the, the like roasting it on a fire, and then the Woody armed just cut off holding the hat, like they've been doing some really good posters for that movie. Exactly. Now the next week is Annabel. Okay. So we've heard yeah we've heard we're getting child's play. And possibly Annabel to horror movies starting since. Yeah. That's I don't think that's ever really happened here. But here's the thing I would rather have child's play over Annabel. And here's why I would good because here's what I want. And I know there's a lot of people that are like, in the conjuring universe, like it's their type of movie totally get it. But I'm gonna give you my points and. And, you know, if you agree with me you agree, if not, that's fine. But main, I want child's play because I look at look at all the past these more recent child's play the first three anything after three. I don't think I don't even think it goes with, you know, they even when they tried to go with bring back Andy as an adult, which was what it was that, when the curse, I didn't see well, I still think the first three or that's what they should have stayed at this one is a remake for more of the country's time off to reboot yet, it's kind of a reboot it's going to be different characters than the original. That's kinda why wanna see it. It's different. And the first three came back at what out in the late eighties. Anna Bill, how many of these movies, are we gonna get? No. You know what I you know what I'm thinking of that? They need to stop making them how they how they keep making transformer movies where it's like, please stop. That's how I feel with Anna with the paranormal activity movie. Exactly. They just keep on. And on. Honestly, all of these I love the conjuring one into those are very good. But all of these other side movies in the conjuring universe have been terrible, like no one's like them. They're getting bad reviews. They're all a lot of jump scares. I think Annabel creation was one of the only ones that got good critic reviews. All the other ones have been. Yeah. Trashy. I just think because animals kinda been is the newer thing. I think some people could get tired of it like hey child's play. This is this is the first time we've seen this. And there's a lot of people that probably haven't even seen child's play movie and you got a lie. Like a Audra Audrey Aubrey plaza. She's a great actress. She's very funny from parks and rec, and they're in the voice of Chuckie is Marquette. Exactly. Mark hamill. He he's a great voice actor. But the other thing is a if I'm not mistaken, that child's play the Chucky doll. They did like the original. It's going to be puppet, not CGI as I think I think they did were majority of it was going to be a puppet. I hope so because has seen like it wasn't in the trailer because they how they made that dole look that made it more kind of like a robot. You know where it's a holy more puppet, that would be great because all the regional still holds up pretty do because then use a lot of CG warrant. Yeah. That is more intimidating than a CGI one for sure. Because. Real exact. So you're like, oh, my gosh. Kid freaked me out every time I went to bed and there was a doll. Yeah. You know you watch child's play as a young kid. It could traumatize. That had more to do with these verses Annabel or anything like that. But definitely put my vote for child's play. So I'm real curious to see. I know we'll find out one hundred percent on Monday about child's play and but as of right now, they said we were picking it up from the Email. I got a couple of days ago. So what about for my once a week plug once upon a time in Hollywood? I did mention it, and it is actually going to be. Hopefully hearing back something soon about if something about if we can pick that one up already so I've true try to push it. Okay. Cool who'd he'll ask the studios are. Well. So the thing is we have a Booker. Yeah that does the negotiations for the with the studios he there. He's the one that does all the legwork to get the movies from the studios. It talks to like, you know, lawns geic Sony Warner Brothers. No. So, yes. Actually talk to people. Yeah. They he goes, and he's the one that instead of us having to do all the legwork making all we, we basically pay him, and he takes care of all of it with a Email or phone. Call back say, okay, you're going to get this movie. We're going to drop this or were you're getting this movie for a two week, run or whatever the case, whatever see kind of negotiate the prices to of that kind of set from all prices are usually. Set because it's a percentage based off of the for the student, the studios are want for the movie and that's going to be across the board. Now, depending on, you know, sometimes there's a deposit for some movies, but if you've been around a while or you got some, you know, I guess you could say good credit history, I guess you could say with him, you're not bound to make a deposit. There are some stipulations like studios, like smaller ones like they, they don't have so many prints. And they don't wanna give they wanna try to give the prints out to the larger markets and bigger theaters because they feel like they can make the money, meaning physical, copies or prints, meaning you know, the hard drive the copy for that movie. So do y'all get a physical copy? We get a hard drive. Okay. See, I thought it was all digital like they will depending now some theaters are satellite-based, so they'll get it through satellite work downloaded. But we right now still get a physical hard-drive copy. That we put into the system Okocha now. Like I said, there are, there are studios out there that require, you know, especially smaller independent studios at are not big like Sony, and all them, they may want an upfront payment of something like because they want you to make like, hey, if you can make this money, blah, blah, blah, you know, they wanted deposit because they wanna make they're trying to make as much as they can for smaller. Maybe a smaller budget field in and they're not giving out so many prints. And that's what some of the smaller, like, especially some of the faith based movies, as we all do those. Yeah. Well, sometimes, and sometimes they there they go wide, where they're going to release it till almost everyone that wants to go by faith. Yeah. So I guess you could say hit now, I guess that's your little behind the scenes of business Rico's. It's funny to me that they would that a studio wouldn't just want everyone possible. To have it like, oh, yes, please take my movie. Now, you gotta look at it like this Hollywood. Okay. The way they think is they feel okay? We're not gonna give our movie to everyone. We're just gonna give it to the bigger markets, and then try to pull everybody else to those instead of dividing dividing because they, they see it like this. They, they look at it where, if they give less prints out to the bigger, they think that, that number it looks more inflated than it is. Because if they would have given it out to say another theater that was fifteen miles away, but a smaller one and they gave that print. And then those people that were going to go to the bigger city to see it now it's divided up. So it doesn't look as big really does that make does that. Like the Hollywood's perspective. Okay. You know. Wow. And unfortunately, I guess I see but still, I mean, if people like some people won't drive from small towns to the big city, so you're still going to get a couple more people to see your movie that you wouldn't have. Yeah, I guess is how I would think of it. But I guess they are looking for. Oh man. This Cinemark had five thousand people in this weekend. Wow. I guess that's what they want to see those big numbers. They do theater. And that's what they want. But it is there are people, but you also look at it to now, days, people are so, you know, they're all about looking for a good deal the discounts in whatever they can get. And if you're gonna go see a movie, and you can drive ten minutes to go see it or you have to drive forty minutes to go. See it ain't what are you gonna normally do if you have your choice and ticket prices and? All that stuff all that goes into effect. And now some people might disagree with me in some people like I don't care how much the tickets are. But, but yet, it's the same thing every time at the box office. They're complaining about ticket prices or they're, or they're saying, well, it's it costs us double if we went to the city. I mean it's you hear this every time at the box office and it's just because of how of what you're paying for to go see, you know, it's the equipment, the technology that you're seeing if you're seeing, I max, your ex d you're paying for that you're not paying for this specific movie there, you're you're paying for the. Yeah. You're the up charge for the entire for all that. He quipped that you're doing the lounge chairs the lounge chairs the crazy surround sound, the atmos-. Crazy cameras. Can't even imagine what those you. So you're, that's what you're really. That's what you're really getting into. And I know we're kind of, you know, you're getting you're getting a back. You're gonna get back in. But I mean to be honest, pretty cool. Where are you actually gonna learn this from the? Yeah, you're hearing reviews, but, you know, you're getting it from a movie theater. Yeah. You know, behind the scenes scoop. Yeah, you're getting some some, some of the stuff you're going to get behind the, you know, you're gonna some indepth scoops, especially when we go to our trade show. I'm home excited about that. I'll think about hiding in your luggage. A movie. Oh, it's gonna be great. And I'm hoping to figure out which one it is. And I'm hoping so it could be the joker. It could be it chapter to Kosovo's or both in October kind of September. I'm, I'm guessing it's one of those, it's gonna be a pretty decent size movie because they're gonna want us to promote. So I'm guessing it's one of those and I would be so down to see either of those. Maybe that's whenever you like you like slight. No movie that knowing that my parents won't see, like, hey, can I have your badge? I'll go. The hotel hate horror films giving that I mean it's technically it's only in Frisco. So it's not that far. But you're yeah. That's not far at all. You know, that's where a trade show isn't, it's probably going to be at the that Frisco studio movie, girl. Oh, not usually where we have them. Yeah. So it's not technically, as like just tell your dad. Oh, yeah. It's a horror film, you'll hate it. You'll hate it go back to the hotel. Yeah. I got you watch some baseball whatever you wanna do in the hotel, we got it. We'll eat the free food. Even my mom doesn't have to go. You know what he'll on a day? You know, my sister lives in Frisco, go visit her go. Visit tell you how the movie was so go. All right. Thanks mom to hunt. There you go. Your name will be Curtis. I am Curtis. So, but I guess do we have anything else to add really know happy that a movie could finally be fresh barely got there for me? But it was still fresh beats the curse of these last three or whatever that it's been that I've not been proud of. And so, yeah, it's kinda got me looking forward to next week, especially I think isn't next week Toy Story. So, yeah. And and possibly child's play. Yeah. So with move. So with the with this when do we give it a nice thumbs up? I do. I think so. Do we need to give it an applause? Yes, let's. That was good. That was a good long applause. So, you know, in the end I it's I think it's a good movie for you to come. See good date movie, for sure. I believe, you know what speaking up, you know, coming out and this weekend, it is Father's Day. So I'm sure some of the dads and, you know, any of those fathers, I think they're I think they'll like this movie. This would be a good movie to come see for Father's Day, especially if you like comedies. Yeah. And if you're a little into that Seifi kinda thing you know, that's a main got so I so I think it'd be a good good movie to come. See for Father's Day weekend, and I think you'll enjoy yourself more than you would think you would agree. So I guess that will do it for today. So thank you for joining us on the plaza podcast. We'll see soon.

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Men In Black International

Black Men Can't Jump

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Men In Black International

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But that movie didn't make as much as didn't wait following was the other one at world, just period yet. Right. See they're, they're, they're getting diminishing returns now because if you notice if a film is good more people will see the next one right film is bad less. People see the next one. Right. So. I mean it's like sometimes you have the worst film, making the most money, only because the film before it was so good, right? Yeah. I mean, isn't that how like fast and furious like stayed for so long, and that's why I kept making more money, right? And but the now they've gotten better the I've only seen only saw which, which one did I see theaters. The one we talked about fast, eight fate. Yeah. That's the one. Well, because it was like it was like it was like too fast. I made more than fast, the fast and furious. But then Tokyo drifts made less than two fast fast was bad, 'cause too, and they like, and they like VIN diesel wasn't in it, and people are like what and then fast. Fasten the furious, which they took out the right. That's number four. That's number four. And I think that may more than the third one and it was, I think people were like this is okay was better than the third one actually some people told me 'cause I didn't die for the ride or die with third one. I didn't watch all of them. I hadn't seen any of them. Right. And people told me to watch fought. There were like don't even care where the other ones start at five or something. And so I I just bought five it was like it was like cheap on voodoo or something right? Bought five, and I have started five four times. I can't get it. But it's been tested. I mean it's really good. It's all fun. And I think Hobbs going gonna make a lot of money. I can't wait. My man pulls a helicopter. Connects a chain going to see that seat talking about break with, with the no franchise. No. 'cause the lose are good only. If the movies are good I'm saying, I'm saying, you gotta keep making them because we didn't think that one day, the rock was going to be pulling because you don't know. You didn't know that one day the wrong is going to be pulling the helicopter with a chain. But then you saw. Oh shit because it's the right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I mean, there's certain people, you know, they be a franchise Samuel Jackson. You know men in black. What are you international? Because. Because they're international stars. Just say two black men, and then say. Minim black. These. I'm just saying around the world, they do well around mental, they do way black, that's doing well internationally. There are other layers, honestly, I saw the different. I thought you were doing different thing that made less. Well, honestly, here's the thing is that the great thing about by openers is that there are a lot of layers. They're just like the really great cavalier, thought out not like improvise them in the thirty seconds leading up. Has to be what you do, though. Don't act. Like that's not what you know what I'm saying? They're like, don't find another way to say many. You're like searching for the other way to say, no, I'm surgeon man, because you already know already know once your gets here. Many bike. Now, I do want to say before we get into I don't wanna start yet. What I want to tell everybody is that we're actually. We're going to London baby. Running for the Argo. We. Man. Yeah. Men in black international. All right. Let's get out of there. James. Joe? Right. The black men can't jump in Hollywood Hollywood's sit heated defeated them, nothing but my witch series seventy atom atomised. That was my. That was my Chris Hemsworth. Wait. That was your Chris heaven. Like I guess he's. I didn't actually Chris, hold on. I have I have. I defeated I defeated. It's getting closer right? Why are you making it so serious? Like a. Okay. Well, let me go for Liam Neeson. I defeated I. Feet of another my witness series. Seventy atomised getting better. That sounds like thank you should just stop. Yeah. Find you and I will kill you. All right. Okay. Enough of this. If you don't dress, not here. Okay. Yeah, you're not living but my wouldn't other. But by woods cert- SU there's a little bit more nasal. I defeated. That's, that's Liam closer, Liam Neeson. I defeated them with nothing. But my wits an Indiana series seven at a series seven data, right with nothing. But my wits. All right. Let's do this perform seven. Why? Okay for those of you who are listening for the first time in haven't turned up. We are film review podcast. We review films of leaning black actors, we talk about them in the context of race was going on and diversity. That's why in Hollywood entertainment. Okay. Okay. Ross says Moore stuff it's. Close today, we are reviewing the film men in black international. The fourth film in the series. Yes. This one has no Will Smith. Well, you know what? No, Tommy legion, the hold on. We see them in an oil painting whip over to an oil painting. Okay. What did I just say this movie has no Will Smith now? We see them in an oil, Tommy Lee Jones. I think that means they're in it. You know, they're not in air likenesses in this movie has no rip torn RIP. No rip torn RIP. But, but no, Tony shillue. No way. No way, will Tony. I don't remember know. This is making sure he didn't. He didn't play a voice for somebody like oh, he could have, I guess. Yeah, I, I don't think he did. Now frank. The pug is back trank. The pug is back. The worm guys are bad guys are back. Not really back. They're just they make Quinnipiac. Matab sins back. She's in. Third one. Yeah. But for like hot second, right? I think she was the rip torn in that. Oh, she was, yeah. I forgot about that. I feel like that's why spoiler okay? I feel like that's why spoiler alert they sent her back to the US at the if they want to make more movies, they would want to keep your she's three legit forgot about men in black three we review to recently. Here's the thing, you know, just to get this out of the way. Like I don't like any men in black. I've, I haven't liked men in black sequels your but men in black is one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah. Course now this movie now, this is probably going to make the least amount of money of all of them. Yes. Yes. So they're not gonna make any more of these movies. This is the end of the mini block. I, I would be. The end of the minute black. What I read was that there's nice show and. How are you? Mate less than dark Phoenix, how little weight while they know. So jarara really important question. What's your Liam Neeson, impression? Probably going to be way better than mine. Terrible. Go ahead. I really am. Only thinking of taking. Away. Hold on, on the sites will set. Said no. Skills. What is say that particular set of skills? And if you hurt my daughter anyway, I will find you. He so rat, so hard to describe his voice is so funny. See him, do all these action movies knowing life, before he was like such a prestige, like Schindler's List, like for St. jacker. Yeah. Saying he's not anymore, but it's like wow. All right, look. But yeah, but this is may no money this movie. This movie is going to Polly make about twenty five million opening weekend, three point one million dollars in, in the previews and Thursday, previews, we're recording this on a Friday. So we don't know how much money it's gonna make. But it's not looking good franchises going down in flames for sure. Even internationally is not going to do to. Well, I mean, the, the rotten tomatoes has it at twenty five percent right now. I mean I don't understand why they didn't just do the thing that was supposed to happen. Twenty one jump street crossover like that would have been good. I mean, she was so long this all would have been put to me, you, it has something, you'd have something that people would have been curious to see right? I don't know if it would have worked by twenty one jump street and down to film stars Tessa Thompson. And Chris Hemsworth who t- who were considered a duo within Thor ragnarok? Yes. Even though they weren't fully in that movie. Together, and also Thor had the hulk in that film as well. Right. I do as as much as I like the ragnarok and I like it a lot. I do feel like their team up was a little bit over reported. Because if you watch that movie again, it's not like not like the movies about those two trying to do. They're definitely trying to do like a callback to that. Yeah. But it's so funny because it is not even there isn't even close because literally his team probably is with LOKI and hope split with her in the mix. I mean right now, this movie cost one hundred ten million dollars to make ham. They make none of that special effects. Looks good though. None of that back. It's black director f Gary gray, Gary great. I mean, it was a big deal for him to get this gig. I'm gonna be doing this your thoughts, you know, dancing around stuff. I'm talking about the fatigue of. Okay. This, this episode is a hard episode because this episode is about people that we want to work with in the future that we hope to work within the future artistic. I respect everything they do. Like that. We think we think highly of I mean we sat on his owners podcast before Impreza movies at Tom's minute and praised movies to Gary gray has done a great is the man director, just for people who, who may not know, and they're listening director StrataCom straight out of cop to direct day direct the Italian jaw, he directed heater negotiator. Which we which I love and set it off off, of course. And also, apparently, I. He directed the fate of the furious. Yes. Wow. Did. Yeah, of course. I mean talked about it. Yeah. Because we reviewed that film to remember the move. Directed by this, right. He also direct be cool, which I like he directed a lot of who a lot of films that we love. It's all right. It was a lot of films that we've covered we we've this is, let's see we did one two three four of his films already. All right. Is that? This is a tricky predicament, where we're reviewing a movie of people that we respect. And again, we want to work with in this again. I know your thoughts you feel like it's clear that we're all about to just sit on. The lead. We said he's a thing. K respect. We have exulted these people own way enjoy them. I don't know this thing. I am conflicted because I don't know what to do because this is something where like normally I would be like our go it, I would and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say the fans you can't do that. But I do think there's a responsibility now, until, like, okay, how do we do this for our particular few chance? We gotta protect ourselves. All right. Screw it. Which I think. I wanna hear what I feel any better that two white men were with this. Does that? How? How? Conde over us. She's in from zero to. Matt hollow Holloway. And our Mecom Markham. Markham wrote transformers the last night. I love that movie. I love that movie. Are you saying with a straight face transformers five is one of the better transformers movies that? All right. Night, baby, brother. He wrote he wrote punisher war zone. And he wrote iron man. Yep. I like the first one use name. He's way. Hold on one second. Oh, yeah. A lot of people. A lot of people are creditors this, all right? To thought these guys I resent that they both did. So I think they both all those movies. I like I like this team like some of the stuff done. Okay. I'm ready. Let's do the hold on. And. Got more. Go ahead. Okay. I'm gonna be real. I did not enjoy this move. Okay. I the thing is, you know, that this is not like this is trying to save face. But almost not really like I do think, after great dit a good job like. I think he did a good job whereas like the special effects look good. Like if felt like the pacing was well, I just think the script was insane. Like I they had Chris him worth be like this, this agent who is just so silly. If felt like again, everyone keeps trying to do the twenty one jump street thing, like making things kinda slapsticky when it doesn't need to be a do think in Tessa Thompson is really good. I think she may not have been the right person for this particular part. Just because I think she has really abilities in other in other ways, but this did not the script, and what was happening did not lead to her success. And I don't think Chris Hemsworth character was really good. So, like we were really watching the movie just to see them play off each other. But for the first twenty twenty minutes, they weren't even together. So I'm like, well so yeah, I didn't enjoy it. But I respect everyone in it. Okay. James. I gotta go next. I. I didn't like it. I really I respected their. Totally trying to capture the spirit of men in black like the score is damn near the same. Like didn't even change it. They really the same score like a. Yeah. Wasn't score. There are clearly some new, they're like, there are some new, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different music, for sure. But they definitely like bring back a lot of the original thing, obviously, because it sounds like like you said, you felt like it was the same. So I like that. Definitely feel like there's some things that they got. Right. Like there's some comedic moments that really feel like like old school men in black. But then there's a whole lot that they got wrong like, and there is some of the action sequences are so fun. And then the moments leading up to them, so bored. And so like it was on, on this was two of them. It has I am to be has Chris bacon. End Danielle Fman. Okay. Because of that, because all of the was released, SO, I feel like maybe it was just Chris bacon, and Danny often it was like his original stuff. Right. I don't know. I so. Yeah. So I mean there was a lot of really for the first like twenty minutes. I was like, laughing and nodding, at the like the stuff that was like that feels very men in black. But they, it was a lot, it felt like a lot of like fan service like, okay, we'll do this. We'll do this. We'll do this just for those people who like are looking forward to that. But like without any of the, the like watching watching Will Smith like experience all this stuff for the first time there's just so much happening for him that you feel as an audience member, and it was just apps very absent from from this movie, and I think that hurt it and then like the team up. Of timely Jones Will Smith is so important there. So like from another world then each other that like putting them together. So fun to watch and like their struggle to get close together is so fun to watch. And but this didn't quite have that for, for a for a lot of reasons that will talk about when we when we get into it. So I had issues with that mostly mostly stories stuff. I thought it looked great other a lot of funny moments, but particularly the beginning story stuff just fell really flat for me. I don't know how to say, I don't know how to talk about this movie in, in a way that feels. But like. I'm trying to be super respectful, but I'm also trying to be honest and the reality is this. I think the casting of this movie is a detriment to the to the film. I don't think I don't think that the screenplay was particularly great. I don't think it was particularly bad either. I want to kind of put that out there like the film just four what they're trying to do with the sequel because I don't like men in black two. Do not like men in black three and the cat. And like that's like the same cast and I still don't like those movies. And it's because I think the screenplay is not great. So I actually think with that cast with this green play it would have felt like okay it wouldn't have felt great. But like. With Tom Jones would have been kind of fun, and it would have felt like if that if this movie was men and by two with the same cast, I think would have been like, oh, the secret step down, but it's like you know, it was like enjoyable. You know, I don't try and wouldn't have seen. You would not have seen many black three. If I probably wouldn't think why saw a box you anyway and those movies were bad. So I don't know. I would have seen like three but I just like men in black. I wouldn't have been excited, I wasn't excited for black three when it came out, even though I saw it. And then I remember thinking men in black three was better than two but it still wasn't agree. You know what I mean? And so this movie in the terms of that kind of thing, I think like men in black international is kind of like men in black three except I think the screenplay for this movie while like not being the greatest wasn't so bad, like some, you know, so here's some spoil like just some like spoilers like, there was some things that were happening that were. That genuinely surprised me. You know it was surprising that the people who we thought were bad round up, not being bad. I didn't know that was going to happen. Yeah. It's a it didn't surprise surprise me who the mole was. But I thought they did a pretty good job of like masking so it wasn't super super obvious. Because the reality is the MO if Chris Hemsworth wound up being the hive, I wouldn't have been super surprise. If the other dude was part of the high would've been super surprise. I knew they were kind of like a kind of knew it wasn't the other do just because it was like it seemed like very, obviously they were very trying to make it seem like it was him. And you're like, okay, it's probably not him. It's probably either Liam Neeson's. Chris Hemsworth, and in and I kind of my guess was Liam Neeson, but I'd liked what they were doing to also, you know, the little the callback with the little creature. I didn't I don't know why didn't recognize that, that creature was the thing like it was the same colors, but I didn't recognize until she said it until she was like, wait a minute of. Whatever the race was, and I was like, oh, I was waiting for that. Did you know when you first saw him that it was him? Did you too? I didn't I was just waiting for news, come back to knows him. And so I thought that was pretty I thought like that was pretty good, you know. And it was a funny moment of like, what did you say to me that I, I said, I would kill any in the most horrible way like I'll kill one person. And I was like, that's a funny joke. That was a legitimately funny joke. There are some legitimately funny jokes in this. And then what was the last thing that was, like there was another little surprise? Oh, just that he was neural is that, that was the thing. That was that was cool. Oh, yeah. I didn't like when they add that was cool when she was like wait, she was, like, how did you defeat him again? When she said that was when I went, oh, snap, he was, I was like how did. And I was like, how did I realize that was so? So there are some things that were laid out in the script that I was like, oh, this is like pretty good. But the reason it feels like it doesn't work mrS partially a script problem. Parsley casting problem is like. Guys, like I wanna work with his casting director, do any of them. But my thing is just like think about the original movie in the original movie, you have Tommy Lee Jones and veteran. Okay. Tommy Lee Jones, as, as a character is a veteran. He's on the verge of retirement. We start with him with his with his partner who's older than he is. You know what I mean, and that, dude, retires? And then it has a nice care MR stakes of that are, so if they feel very real. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then, and so you have, and he's like straight laced. He's by the book, straitlaced by the book. No nonsense. You know, very confident, but then you have this other kid who's, like new to supposedly new flashy doesn't do things by the book, you know, but will, but has so much passion would like do anything to get the job done. And then we see we see that encapsulated with Will Smith running after a person who wants to being an alien, but he like even the aliens throw him off because he still going to do his thing. He outsmarts does all this stuff, so very cool. And they're like, oh, I like this guy. Right. But there's a clash between their personalities which is so funny throughout the movie. But the other thing in terms of casting, Tommy Lee Jones, even at this point is a very well respected actor a veteran actor who is capable who is capable of doing comedy, but it's incredible at drama. Right. And then you have Will Smith who. Is also capable of doing drama, but isn't credible at comedy now as much as I again, as much respect. I have both of these actors, we do not have an equal pairing of this, because one neither of them are considered veterans. You know what I mean Tessa Thompson, who supports now the straight laced person even though she's in the rookie position. As much as like I've liked her in the thing. She's cast in. I won't. I wouldn't I can't you can't let necessarily she's not yet at the Oscar caliber, you know what I mean, she still has some, some more years to put in and she's not in, like Chris Hemsworth as funny as he can be. He's not a super skilled comedian also he's done one role. That's really funny. Also, the problem, I think, and I think all the men in black of had this problem after the first one is that but because wills myth became so funny in the first one it lost ground in this of it. So to two things happen to me like what you don't see. And I think the thermal was trying. I think the billon is a big deal emit in black, the sticks were so heavy because Edgar was terrifying. Right. Editor was terrifying. You know what I'm saying also echo was legit going around, killing people like legit shove someone in a fridge at one point. He breaks the guy in half like just like see him broken in half. So to me, is, like everyone at that point, no matter how many jokes Will Smith has the weight of the situation is always there might even Vincent, the Nafi who did at your. There were funny moments like the opening scene with him like asking for more water, and like pulling up his face. Like that's funny. But it's also scared. It's terrifying because he realized that Elliott. Doesn't get it. Whereas this movie made us difficult is that everyone is joking. You know what I mean? So must think Tessa Thompson's character was a little bit more grounded. But to me at that point. I was fused on who they wanted the comedy. Yes. Like who, who was supposed to do what that certain point percents? She was the thing was Sheba comes at the very time when she becomes a man in by, and just this here. Before. But this thing she, she's supposed to be the human, right? She wanted to figured it out 'cause she she's figured out, she's the cocktail. Right, cool. She's a little bit of the problem is Chris Hemsworth is also the Kaku and way more cocky, yeah, and this is the problem, I had with this is the problem, I had with the Ghostbusters reboot. 'cause I was like everybody wanted to do the fun thing where Mike. So what has to do the straight person thing percents beat a crazy person? But like no one wanted everyone wanted to have fun. Whereas I can't tell who I I don't have. I you guys know this, I don't have a barometer for that stuff. Like I didn't notice it. I didn't notice in in Ghostbusters. And I also didn't notice that in this, but you, you breaking it down this way, I totally I definitely see that they're both cocky into their butting heads that way. She's cocky, until he comes muffing she's met cocky, like, even when she's talking. Oh, she's like, yeah. I'm the best will here. Blah, like she even was she see her guns check, please, like she's cocky in until she would it doesn't feel. Here's the thing that I didn't like about it is that it seemed like they are trying to imbue certain Will Smith 'isms into her where it doesn't feel now it doesn't even feel natural Tessa Thompson, but also doesn't feel natural to the character because it's like issue supposed to be super cocky like that. Like the whole first of all, as much as I liked the callback to the beginning thing, the beginning doesn't set up this person's character rehab in a different way her character. Like it's just like it's just her as a little girl like seeing her. Seeing like seeing the men in black. You know, seeing an alien not getting Noor lies and then she's like she does a kind thing, which is nice, but it felt like just a kid thing, and it wasn't something, it's not like that character trait that we saw her as a kid carried over into the movie. It didn't it did it at all. It had nothing to do with her success. And then it was just like all of a sudden we get we see her in the future. She super smart. She knows how to hack into things. She so good that she's like she can get into any agency. This is supposed to be funny that she's like applying to the agencies and she's like trying to be like, you know. I want where the aliens, and they're like, oh, she's crazy. And I'm just like first of all, it's doesn't feel realistic to me that she would think that in the application process, they're going to tell her about this thing even if they knew about it, it's like wouldn't you be, and it would have really annoyed me was like. In the first men in black movie, during the whole during Will Smith like like, you know, doing the trials or whatever you know, he was with a bunch of people who are high leads of the military, FBI CIA, meaning, if she just entered that program, it's possible, they would have thought that they were going to do, like I thought that like she was going to be like, in the FBI forbid, and then they were gonna find her and that would've made more sense. Yeah. And, and the other that I had in this in line with this is we see all of that from her. But then the second she gets into my be, she's pretty much a second fiddle to Chris Hemsworth, doesn't get to doesn't actually get to demonstrate any of that. Like they're there moments where she like detects things like, oh, I saw. I saw a thing, but we never get like why she does that whole thing where she like. It's like I'm actually fluent in such and such languages and I can do and I base off of the person that we saw her before she got in, I believe that to be true like there's no easy light about, but that was a lie. But there's no reason that, that should have been a lie understand. It felt like you know what this is? And I think this situation where like. Now, does your tell me about two men? It was like, I think, for me, for instance I feel like I won't point, this was two men and somebody was like, hey, this should be a woman, and they're like, oh, this should be a woman of color. And then they had to go back in and at little lines of like she likes them now. Yeah. You know what I mean I it felt it was women in black. If felt tweet my God, it felt tweaked, you know what I mean it felt like an infield genuine. It didn't feel like do feel like a woman wrote the script was like a right a movie, and it's going to be like one of the ages will be a woman and be the Li like it didn't feel like it because it felt like it was like that. I'm pretty sure Tessa would have had to fund stuff. Right. Chris wouldn't if I'm telling, you know, moment she goes to his desk, and they go out that night, all of that cockiness is gone is like on that cognizance gone. Chris is still the one that's like the rebel bad ass, when or whatever she becomes more straight laze in. Then not only that, but a lot of comedy is my from Kumhal say, come. All right. Has a lot of shows that resume and that's the first mission. The first, but once they go, there is like he's there, the entire time, giving you jokes and the numbers might be isn't like that. The comedy comes from this relationship in front. Yeah. In from like this. Boerner kind of pug, Frank. The pug is in one scene. Yeah. Maybe two, but then immediately in the second one, I COO, Frank two hours of Frank, right? Like a mmediately tried to do. They also did the also did this thing with undercutting Will Smith in the second one as well. They were like okay. He can't. We can't have him now. No stuff, like you know what I mean, like, yes, the now the second time Jones because he has to be second fiddle, which is I don't know. I don't know. It didn't feel it didn't feel g win felt like in a difficult. Every time I look at these actors, I love, his actors, it's just like this wasn't it? We got a sponsor sponsor man. We got helixsleep baby helix sleep, you want a good matches. Look, there's nobody on the planet who doesn't like good matches. 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It's not like you don't think Tommy, you're like, oh, she's doing her thing, and sort of put somebody who's not a comedian into move into a movie that, like was written so much for the comedy more so than the realism of it, and then, like have her play like sometimes play the voice of reasons. Sometimes be the cocky, one like just made it just made it like like. Hemsworth, who is just doing his thing. And even though I recognized the movies on good. I still Mike. Oh, but Chris Hemsworth, really and Koumas doing his thing to like it doesn't make any sense like that character doesn't make any sense in a movie, but he's still funny because he's doing comedic thing. I gotta piss update this movie. They wanted to make all right. So bagging the straight laced cop rookie fast talking blackout. Right. They needed to do is a needed to be. Chris Hemsworth is one of the like and again, this is not saying Sex's on purpose. But would it should have been? It should have been like this, dude. Who doesn't wanna partner doesn't want a woman partner you saying, I got never need a partner Thompson comes in super versed in everything the best in the class prow I mean, because there's no conflict of, there's no conflicts on. Alison no person who doesn't wanna wanna partner out need like now is like. Like we have conflict now we have now because see, like some of his ways versus like what she can do. We can do a thing for their team up in the movie. The, the reason that it's like if felt like the laziest literally, the reason they're together, we lazy reason together is because she she she has she gets sent to m I b international, which, by the way still doesn't make sense, because at the end the moves he's like, oh, I knew something was, and I wanted to send you because you really smart, and I was like why? Officials. No imprint visual agent, but, but also one that and then two with no information, just amazing. Amazing. You just lose like follow up like just discover this whole thing by herself how okay. And then, so she gets there, and we have the scene where an alien a woman alien is like with mind control. Is like slowing Chris Hemsworth down to like make him walk by really sexy and Tessa Thompson. I still don't know to this day, whether her character romantically as interested Adonia, and Chris. They fuck it the end of the movie. They definitely do. They fly off in that in that in that there is. But you don't like the movie was, like was like, I guess we shouldn't say this, but they like put it in there anyway. So it was like the most watered down version of that. And then she literally is just looking at him. And then she just goes, like I should be on your case. First of all, I was like she wasn't partnered. This is what I wanted to this was what I was going to say was just I, I understand that. You guys had an issue with, with the casting of this movie, I didn't have a problem with the Casio's movie. I, I thought that the actors themselves did find but shit like that. Like may know like the, the characters made no sense, Bo. Both of them, right? We're supposed to think something is off with Chris Hemsworth, right? Because he's his behavior is bizarre and erotic, but he's some he some hero. But then from scene to scene, it didn't make like I couldn't tell in that first scene if he was just not doing his job or if he was actually on a case for him. I b or what? And that was not explained. But, but I mean, the whole the whole movies. I don't know is like what is he what was he like, before, the, the newer Leuser? We will never know right? Because it wasn't the New Orleans change. And then she and then right because. Well, well, I think the reason I think the reason is his career defining moment is something that he has no actual memory of because he didn't because he didn't do anything so he's not he's building off of his what makes him him, you know, in my being actually that makes sense that felt that felt so he changed is because he probably wasn't that great of an agent before, and then he was told that he saved the world and because he was totally say the world, he became this, like, really pompous cocky, dude who felt like he was the best agent nothing but his wit, but he actually wasn't good. He actually was never a good agent was actually not. That's not that bright. Yes. Right. That's the whole idea, definitely not the top dude, you know, but he now had to like exist as the top, dude. Like he's not the top, dude. Why? Okay. That kind of makes them. And then and then I just the thing that you were talking about before I before I start this was I, I really hated that. The thing that brought them together was something as thin as that, but could have been bigger because we did establish that, like she, like she was like, I have no lie like my life has been finding out aliens. I don't like I don't I honestly don't like that. Her whole thing was wanting to be a men in black because she saw them when she was a kid it doesn't make any sense. It makes way more sense to me that she wanted to know about aliens, or whatever it was like figuring out like what if she just figured out, what was happening apart from the men in black, and they were like holy crap? She's like cracking our case for since you don't even know like you know what I mean. Also, the weird thing that you like try to find the men in black. And like, I don't know like what, what purpose of that doesn't like the movies. Because I feel like thought about this before, like the whole thing was always like, oh, she's, she's told us twice like they bring up the fact that she has no love life, you know what I mean. Because reason for that. Yeah, bring it up a few times. And I'm like, there's something about where I'm like, I don't know why when it's a lead woman character to make her tougher than everyone else. She can't fall in love and can't have a love life. Yeah. Whereas like a man a man, if it comes up, he's like is handled different is they do not address it in the first minute black, and they only bring it up in the second black because of the dousing character, but it's not even it and the first the first one this thing in the first one will hit someone that Dr the entire move is right? The higher movie would be for sure. You know what I'm saying? He is in his not. Is this weird because I feel like there's been a bunch of movies. I watch. I've talked about this a few times, even when not to about Star Wars, like, oh, I thought big levels going to be between right Ray in fair. But all of a sudden, like you know, supposed to fuck that, but, but my thing is like, is this a weird thing? Whereas like why can't it takes the human? It takes a human out of her to me like you just use her catcher of somebody that you want. You made her, like, was that call that carrying to call, like the, the, the good at everything? Like Ray is no is usually is us. That's for a bipartisan before women usually look it up. Well, yes, but then, but then also to that to that end is, you know, that was her life before men in black? She just didn't pursue anything. But then I think we're supposed to believe that like she's not blind. She liked goes up to Chris Hemsworth, and she's like, okay, I'm gonna work when you know what I mean? Like she thinks he's attractive. Yeah. So I don't I don't think. I don't think that they were trying to. I know it. I think it's just poorly executed. I don't think that they literally how they get paired up as like she thinks he's attractive. And then she just walks up to him and she's like I think I should be your partner. Yeah. And it's like what Mary sue? That's what is yes, we this, right? Okay. Because what they do to her in this movie is like, again, she's the best computers. You know what I'm saying? Like nowhere like she lily gets a job at the FBI like CIA and then doesn't work at any of them for no is working this back at a computer center. Right. I'm fine with that with this is the thing of like I don't maybe it's just me but like every time we have a super tough women like the thing wonder woman did that was really well, is that one woman was able to own everything by she's able to owner strength or intelligence and our sexuality. Right. Like hooked up with Chris pine and kept moving. It didn't Depp in her brains didn't dampener strength. But sometimes these movies, it's like. Oh, wait. So you're saying like that is supposed to be a weakness. Oh. She's that dope. It won't matter like you and do that to the do. Right. Exactly. I the so the other thing. Okay. Just real quick 'cause like too much time. But like we're done late twins was the. Gosh, what's Phillies right now? Here's the thing when I saw the chiller, they were the only thing that I was excited about because I, I, I think there's such incredible dancers soco, and I was like there is a way. It's like if they don't speak and just they are doing really cool movements. There's a way that they can be super menacing. Now. What I didn't know was that they would be CGI half the time we saw them. And then. Like. I think the scene. That's so like the Pitta me of, of misuse the MRIs of boys, like they have a scene in which they dance now. It doesn't make any sense why they're dancing. Why? There. You know what I mean not the club? They're both. So Dan, they literally one day literally start dancing. And I was like I was like, okay. Now, I understand that you had to get like you have to you want to you want to get them to dance. Now you could a freaking came up with something to make make it make sense. You didn't. But then on top of them, forcing them, the dance, they took the footage and sped it up to make it look like they were moving faster than doing real life. And I'm like, first of all, they moved so fast and real life, and it's incredible took the one thing that I wanna see them dancing, and then you're screw with the footage. It's also it's, it's hard that they in that scene because they're trying to be covert, right? Like they're trying to not be. That if anyone saw them do it. They would be attack. You know. Them you have the two guys who can dance if you wanna see the move like that they're going to cooperate into their dance. It I mean fighting. Fight fight. They won't be able to hit them because they're gonna be also I don't think we even address yet. We learn for second. They are not the bag as they've been murdered and as never addressed. Not only that it's like their, their home world was being attacked. We don't low about their home and then. There's like this. Several genocides happened in this film, the other the other raise that komo's apart of them die. The Queen is all them are dead. Yeah. The use it as a joke, like they're like, I don't know like shoe here. This guy we let him kill himself. I was like a kinda wanna see I kinda wanna see what is happening. Also were pissed me off. Is that this dude has a gun that like is a real gun and then anytime he we need him to be helpful. He doesn't the gun until the very end. And that again, and I was like, where was this whole time was the rocket to pair was the rocket. What was the pet? Because time way, the rocket PEC running around flying in the air, and they're like, he's like helped me and it's like just use your us around. Packet, just you're fine. All of a sudden he lily at the end of the movie he is with a jetpack in to grab lingers. To Mike you had as the whole time. And yet, there's a moment where you're on the person shoulder. And then you like hit him with the sword. You could have popped there with the freaking also he's he was strong. She's being put on a worm. Oh, my main his rocket is as strong. The right time. I was saying, I was is the only thing. I get very annoyed by Kemal, and I was probably, I enjoy. One of the best. Honestly, I was like I liked homegirl who's funny was homegirl from she's from other things. But the thing that I just now had a flash. I realized I knew from was she plays the opera singer in greater showman. The forearmed. She the same woman from our mission impossible. I wanna say I wanna say, yes, she's I just couldn't tell. But. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is headed notes us from the greatest show. Yeah. Yeah. She she I thought she was great. She showed up. I was like, all right. Let's I'll watch two more hours. This. Fergus Rebecca Ferguson. Yes. Yes, she was impossible rogue nation. And then also the one low right in the end. I thought that her those scenes were fun. That's the thing. The thing is like, so much of the so many of the big set pieces were fun for me, and I enjoyed watching him, and it just made me so mad that it took us Alana. Get there. I was excited, I was excited when the, the little creature came back, and it was that guy. That was really fun. They get good ideas. It was tough because in the thing is I really don't think it was at Gary great. You know what I mean? I think for the most part in looked beautiful. The pacing was the action step. He's were great the pacing, I was okay with, it was just a script foot like I don't know, man in a sucks, because sucks because I do these movies going to do really bad and is like this. This was Tessa Thompsons. I like co lead lead, like big budget. Wait, do not consider creed. I don't know. She she big budget. She bothering sheen on is tough. She is. 'cause to me is like, when when we first came out, she was in that movie was marketed as Michael Jordan and still own. Whereas this is marketed as the post is tesla, and then his in his, Chris, I'm like this is her movie in. It's an right property like this really could this could have relaunched a franchise it if they had it been to women and be like, have you had the commentary the commentary on, like, Why's it caught the men in black because the brain shading that'd be two women. Shake it. There was this movie was always gonna fail. I don't I because the sequels because no actual minute. Black sequel has been good. I'm just saying you mean just like it's I'm not looking at this movie like, oh, if they only did XYZ I just feel like from top to bottom. Yeah. Like the cat. I just feel like the pairing of these to the story. They try to tell the way that the, the characters like I thought Terminator was done after five. I thought that that was going to be I thought four was going to be the nail McCaw, and then they were salvation, we're going to do five, and I was like okay, and then I saw it, and I thought that was going to be now they're going to do one more. I don't know. I am because men in black is so believable. What are you black? So beloved I feel like had. They just had the stars align with this other movies. You're talking, the other Terminator movies, aren't good. Yeah. What I'm saying, but they still but they still. The new one five they still keep trying. But I feel like none of them, none of them tank ceus. But, but this is my thing, though. Would it comes in it like the new one I will see, but 'cause the new one the people who made the one that was is back for this. That's because here's the thing Terminator, Terminator two was better than Terminator one, right? Yeah. So this is what I'm saying you get a couple back, but because men in black two was bad and three was bad. It's like this is the last it's like how many bad ones are we going to wash before, like we're not watching anymore movies that you keep making? And then you didn't even bring back the original like it's not like Tommy Lee Jones Will Smith can act still. And so it's like you didn't even it's like they didn't even want to be a part of this. They didn't even show up to do cameos like to. I mean there is like. The tone. But also, this is the thing like this movie has tone whereas like. Like the Baywatch is like, again is so playful. I can't take anything that's happening in it serious because no one else is, is like, again, the real tough part is like, I think we're bracing the actors in the first minute bike were so good. And they played it. So real even with bunny things were happening. The reason the reason Edgar exit from water is funny is because he is playing this alien is like thirsty. You know that big ass. You're like, oh, he needed the situation really. But they're playing like is not. They also have way too much. Thank CGI. And they've had that had that since men in black two, it's just like the overuse of CGI black movies is, I can't, I can't talk, the first one practical effects the practice. And yes, there is CGI in it like the cockroaches CGI course. Yeah. You have to worm guys are not they're public. And they've been pretty much CGI for. And it's like you have a do with, like an alien with a thing on his face. And you're just like a puppet, there's just so much stuff. It was like we talked about this with to where they took a little parts from the first one, and they're like, oh, it'd be funny if we just do this. But more. Oh, I hate. Okay. I hated in this movie when the one of the best parts of the first men in black is when Will Smith like pushes the little bell. Red button. When he put the little red button, we push the ball and the ball like that in the ball like goes all of them. I be and he's, he's so it's crazy fucked up so badly. And this caused the nineteen seventy something. Yeah. That's great. That's so funny again. No. And they tried to do that, again in this win the like creature comes up to end cheap. But that's just. In the first one, it's a character who is who is really a fish out of water who is like trying to act like he's down. And he belongs touches the thing and he messes up right in this doesn't know what's, what's happening in this movie it, someone who we know, for fact has like studied, she has study. She's she knows all the ins and outs. And then just by happenstance. She just touches a weird doesn't make any sense character her character. This movie is, is literally nothing. It's just an amount of nation of different things. They were trying to do like there. There is. No character. It's like the beginning the first time we see her character is just setting up like a thing for. The movie. It's not it's not like her kindness, is what pulls her through the film, and that's an it's the kind that, that made of impact on alien in the beginning, you know, and then it's not even like her, like her curiosity is what pulls her through the film. Right. And then it's like, and then it could be like the moment where these moment when the guy gives her the gun, the thing that we learned is the gun could have been like I've read your that you're very kind, you know what I mean? Like it could have been connected to that date. It's like why did he trust there? It doesn't even his, his power was to people in figure out wasn't he supposed to be a bad guy like he was an arms dealer, something like all this other political stuff. That was happening that I was just like what anyway, let me tell you. Quick want to say you know, we don't have to reboot everything unless you have a fresh take just just let it be good. The one of the best things I heard is like when it came up to the sequel to brass maze. It was like, no, we made a perfect movie. I mean, like we did it the job is done, if we did another one, it would only be to dampen, this brand damp in his movie, and just make money. And then people would not like it was like why vita we do this very said, the second third men in black were critical successes like yet. It may money but no one was like, we got to damn got to get men and bike. Again. Also, what is Hollywood remake these Will Smith movies, and putting white dues in it, like, what surreal going on what is to deal with, and it's a himself, brother, every time I mean, I like this more than true. That's true. Whether every like, what are we going to do what you're gonna do is going to be another one in bad, boys? 'cause like not our own is fun. It's the young rival team going to be like a white. That's so funny. Oh, I, I hope that happened. Hey, how Hollywood make that? Saying is, is that there's so many fresh ideas out there that you can make cheap and you can just start your own franchise. You know what I'm saying? Maybe just make one good movie with a possibility of a sequel, but as make one move, we don't need to keep rehashing stuff into dampening people's childhood. Go ahead. I was just going to say that I just because we don't have this perspective on the podcast because it's just like we just been way too busy. It sorry. Guys couldn't begin guests and stuff like that. But I am sure that it is nice, you know, just in terms of representation to see Tessa Thompson, you know leading a role to see a black woman in a role like this that you don't get too often. She's a bad, and I, and I and I do think, and I well, at least I hope that we're at a point when which a movie like this bombing won't hamper the options or ability. You know what I mean that they won't be Thor? She's fine. Yeah, I just hope that they don't. Yeah. You're right. You're right. So I just like your. I don't think they will. I'm just saying like so we have the ability to bomb like this. So it's like I don't know. Like you know, but there is a part of me that's like man like they could have made this. I don't know. I feel like they could have had a, it's just I just find it interesting the way that they did this because it's like. You had a formula, and it's like you didn't even stick to the formula. But, like anyway, go ahead. What were you gonna? I was going to send it west, the just the only thing I wanted to say was. Minna black too is good. So just just so that, that can just be out there. You know what I mean? Many black two's, pretty pretty great Dawson's in that one. Yeah. You say many black to Yemen two's, pretty great just want to make sure I said that we reviewed men in black African love to okay. I don't know what's happening fantastic. Are you saying this? That's what you wanted to say. That's it. Many black to is this is this new bit. This is my I know what he's doing. Your new business. Bit. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all this is a bit now is good. Okay. We, we do need to say anything, about the end of this movie. What happens at the end the end? They definitely have sex at the end. Right. Because she is just in my man's car driving. Yo he walks up to the car, push the in the car. Has. All right. We review films. Whether or not they helped the cause more leading black actors in Hollywood film, a film, feel, the film fully 'cause we go to fist someone helped the 'cause we give it a white pomp feeling didn't help the cause it out. We don't give it anything guys on the count of three. We're going to do this. Goodness shit here. Not none of like we don't like it. Okay, does not matter if we like it just does it support the cause more actors. Why are you taking so much? I know. Are you trying to convince you all right? Three. I'm doing I'm doing this. You gotta go. Go ahead. I'll, I'll say why. The palm was given by Jonathan Braila. Okay, good. Movie. The movie palm for on the casting directors. Here's what. Here's what I just think here's why I'm going to say this. Maybe it's to route, I think, tests Thompson's career before this movie is fine. I think be okay. I think it'll be fine after this. But you could have you could've just made somebody's career by putting them in this film. That was that had a career, but didn't have this kind of movie success. And you didn't do it because you were like, Well, Chris Hemsworth, and Tessa Tomsa were together. And ragnarok. So let's put them together in this movie because they already have chemistry and it's like Wilson and Tommy Lee Jones were never in a movie. And they have some of the best chemistry of all time, stop. Not like I don't like the fact that we can't bet on black people. You and I mean I don't like that. We, it's like they have to be proven in some fashion, by, like other stuff. And you can't just pick somebody who is like, really funny. Really good. You know what they do, but hasn't been given in this kind of opportunity, and it just feels like it feels lazy to me and it feels uninspired and I'm really, really not anything against has Thomson. It really is. Just like you could have had a black woman in here that doesn't have a significant movie career yet. But like has the chops that do this kind of thing. And like even if the movie wasn't great really puts that person on the mat, whereas has already on the map, you know what I mean. I do understand that this gives. So I gave it upon because it was like it's still is still will help it helps in the whole general. 'cause but I'm just like, I don't know man. Sometimes I, I, I don't know we never never gonna give anybody that, that much of a. A plug because it's like we we're not allowed to do that. Will smith? He did in on the map. Yeah. That the time of day. Thank you. Thank you. Jonathan Bray lock for your your, your closer remarks. Jonathan Bray lot, just. People can make sure that voice saying your full name because that wasn't that wasn't. That was not James, the adrenaline Jonathan Braila. Wow. Who? Break just said is not a false statements. James. An uphill. Man. I mean come on now. I mean listen. No, no. James third. I respect you opinion James to take you this a landmark up. Are you going to say why you gave this movie? I am scared. Kid us. I say honesty, right? Listen because we Witkin to close. I thing we hear me out here. We do think that our listeners needs to note that a certain point. Sir point you go. Wake up one morning and none of this pocketing a. Be a newer allies. Joe? Charlize dolphins memories. Listen because we we saw. Three years ago, the handle job. All right. Okay. Let's. Let's. Okay. There's, there's a strong likelihood about an end of the year. We will see Tessa Thompson. Or f Gary great. That is a strong case, but this thing too about it straight up. I do not like this. I do, but I will say and I agree what kinda Johnson too? I do think we could had a new actress be put into this movie. But I do think this was a stepping stone for to sit Thompson, because it was a lead, as she's afra- Latina. So it I'm even looking all our already articles defending the movie, but because of what you're like everyone's saying, because black woman is starring in this is like, what is all the hate for? And also f Gary gray is, is getting bigger and better things at the end of the day is like a Safran. The script the movie looks, beautiful movie looks clean be looks neat. I thought the action set pieces went really, well, I mean for the most part, I've really think they handled CDI character like Kamal so well, because that kind of character normally gets annoying rural fast, you know. So I thought he thought everyone did the best that they could do think we're saying it was miscast but at the end of the day, I'm giving it a fist, because I'm not going. You know, I'm not trying to get, you know, Gyari said thing. All right. Well, nobody gave it a fisa arrive. Milligan. If you wanna use a quote poster. Here's what I do that. I do think this film was miscast and that quote is by Gerard while militant. Wow. All right. J. Aches spell. The name James, this is James. I gave a fist because I believe this movie deserves a. I. Smart. Smart rectify f Gary gray. It's directed by f Gary gray when I saw Friday I thought it looked so fucking good. And I was like, who directed this movie because it looks amazing. And now this man just buck in men in black international, and that's amazing. And he, he was almost gonna do winter soldier. Whichever one he was going to do one of those one of those Jane, what you see what I'm doing. Yeah, you're saying this. Do not like change the wing Connecticut. All right. Go ahead. There's no telling truth. Okay. It was right by grain. It starts says the Thompson, and that's amazing for both of them. I don't know if it could have been somebody else, I think that this, I liked the casting of this, and I enjoyed these two actors in mind. Say. My soul. I know it didn't make a lot of money. But I feel like I feel like you know, go out, go see it go support, because, you know, we need to have more leaving black actors more black directors and film. Wow. Wow, stop. Don't do this to me. Wow, you saved that was going to say both of us to actually more reckless. All right. For those of you. I I I'm you, can you get at man pike is on Twitter, Instagram, black pockets dot com. Our website there, you can find links to our merch. Find links to our patriot. We got new patriot episodes coming out soon. We reviewed an episode of when they see us that will come out soon. 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Miss Mary Mack is Back! (State of the Que-union, Stacey Abrams, Celebrity Big Brother, Jussie Smollett, Tessa Thompson)

"Welcome to minority coroner with an and James, the wonder twins Apolo casting. Learn laugh play. It's like blues. Clues only. It's more black queer and lady lies. This week on the minority corner. Will you got cook in episode one sixty four later love. Thanks. Okay. That's. That is. All know that the government is back together there's supposed to be a state of the union address. But fuck that I'm giving St. of the que- union. In smashing together. Yes. That is not doing union. No. No, we thought some of the Queen Candace has given. Knock giving. Tomorrow at six PM, not right now, we've already booked this room. So she's big out the door. Then can't this is not your time. No. But there's so many things that are happening between the incident happened with Jesse small. There is new advancements in the issue clus community. Call things that are happening on laws, and I it's us that are happening. All kinds of things and also things that are some there's some weird superheroes. That are popping up on your TV screen. Happening with the game bars. Are they they're more other last what's going on gotta mind out? What's gone on the scrap strap can't do something you're gonna find out this week and the episode the ad? Yeah. Right. Like soon not this lake after this message just a few moments. Yes. This week. And there is a TV show. The I want to get into the trash fire Fathallah vision. Tell you all about some show that you should watch. Why CC Abrahams Tessa Thompson we have so much talk about this reading. Yeah. We got a jam packed of fun. And maybe some, you know, some children's rhymes we're going to grow it out. They say it dissect it get into the kittens of that give good. Yeah. I'm ready. Let's do it. After this. Miss MAC back. Okay. Bring it back. This is classic goody. Yes. How's she doing do max? She was does she going to heaven? Back-back bag Backley shipping on her back. It was what was dripping on her best silver silver buttons. Okay for. So how ready in the morning? She had. Assistant, obviously that's part of the Rhine that they don't tell me. Assistant society dressed up in the morning. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is making me realize that half of the things that I recited when I was a little kid. I was not paying attention to the context saying the words in the rhythm. You're just like this is fine. This is Q. Yeah. It doesn't make any miss Mary. Should go to a funeral or maybe she was like, I don't know. She's chic. I don't know. She. Brown her back. See clearly this isn't to help forget red hell forget running after that all down her back back back Zaka TAC TAC fans. I don't know Power Rangers. Involve somebody knows it. And they're so frustrated. All I know is that eventually she went to heaven. So she died. So that's why she's dressed in black. She's dead. This is Matt she's getting ready. Steph is Dr arc twisted. You were just having a good time slapping hands long jump rope. And I mean, do you know about the girl from Kansas City? Right. She had the titties meatballs for her titties. So yeah, no, I had scrambled eggs between her legs NT pretty that's on that one from you from college because I missed out on that one in my child get that one the neck is like your with the right people until college apparent college. Let me tell you about this girl with her scrambled eggs. Tweeter legs city. Does that mean falls for titties as that me is she to be like wims Ecole or I thought she has where they lumpy o or are they small that's I just met into little meatballs. Oh, I thought they were like lumpy linga Meatball? Okay. Well, really tasty. No way her titties got layers. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah. Women can claim this. Reclaim this. So we're not like making fun of women. Yeah. And there. Yeah. You got me about that. He's that means many things. Oh, speaking childhood, not trauma. I mean, kind of guests so came out did you ever? I don't know if it's offensive to say, but the play the Chinese jump rope. jump rope. Where you rob a between, y'all? It's like a long string that is wrapped between you and someone else kind of like hand doing the cat's cradle of your hands. But with your feet. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just air on the side of the. Yes, that's probably racist to call China's. We know for fact that it does coverage from China. Yeah. Well used to play. Yeah. But I was never good at it kinda got so far, but cats cradle, I only go, so I could get up to doubles. I was just I was Chinese jump rope champion or maybe let's all changed name alternative jump. Rope. Champion cats cradle for your feet cats. Jump rope champion, you know, what I found out recently to speaking of offensive names for things just going. We're that's what we do here at minority corner. We dig it up. What was let's find out. I. You know, the wave like you go to concert, and there's a wave. Oh, yes. Don't you? Take us away from me why in the UK do they call the Mexican wave? Oh, no England. What's going on? Is there another way of the I don't know about. I always went to isn't it. Like named is the only way of there is it's weird just called the wave. I went to see this one band in college. I really liked called block party and their British. And they're like can you do the Mexican wave? And I was like, wait. I everybody was like wait and then record scratch just go time. And then I looked at up in guess, that's why they call it there. Do they have like what do what are the British people do like they're like, oh which waiver we listened to stadium making a big announcement stadium wave shall we do and they're like, let's do the Mexican one like as. I think it's I don't know. Don't ask. I'm not British right? Yeah. Well, I know some so I'll be sending a carrier pigeon to go. Find out the information to them. I'm glad you're going traditional with that information. I mean, they're old school, you know, all s country, and I wanna Slough respect their waves. She all it seen. No, I'm not being ages and just calling Spade a Spade. Okay. I have some really great news for you. Okay. What's that? Well, later on the state of that. Well, okay, go with me here. So the state is back on. Okay. Yes. 'cause we February's bright something and it's coming up February fourth. I'm going to say I could be wrong that sounds right. It feels right? Feels good. I. Armand God, Tam, it whatever. Okay. But oh by speaking. So that orange man or and gonna be giving the state of the union dress because government is somewhat going. It's back running anti close Orna held her own. She did not in which I'm actually really impressed. Yeah. I'm impressed to job. So she did a job and guests who so the the party that's not the head of the AM the party. That's not the head of the union. Also gives a rebuttal state of the union guess on the democratic side is giving the Democrats state of the union address. I mean, I know who it is. So you should who. What and the award goes to and that game you earned that today. We were to ended up that middle part people have been the he was so no. I mean, I need to not be a nodal for once in my life and go along with. You know, what you are you are you Stacey Abrams, which is so amazing all the snaps. Why are you so excited about that? I'm so excited is because she didn't get as much coverage. As beta even those great I have no problem with him. But she didn't get as much coverage as him, and she's an excellent speaker. I think a lot of people gave her credit for being excellent speaker as much and she was robbed in her election. Yeah. By racism, and sexism. I think that she is an excellent person to put on stage. I'm so glad that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are bucking the trend of going along with moderate centrist Democrats in old school in getting some new young fresh blood voices out there. I think you, and I must be playing the same Kratz cat's cradle footsie jump. Rope game. We're on the same page. Secret is moves I was thinking, exactly. Exactly for the same reasons. It's like all also, I think I think it speaks you because there's a lot of people who are tired of the establishment and establishment all ticks, and I feel like to me it sends a message that the democratic leaders are listening to the as. Yeah. And so I think it's because you know, it's two party system. And there's you know, we make up a huge spectrum of people. And I think it was making space for her and same thing. Like, I like, you know, Beto is getting all this recognition and says he hasn't been in. I think it saying like, hey, she's still a bar Democratic Party. It also speaks like, hey, we're acknowledging the fucked up nece that she should have won it just as fix vault. Your actions speak volumes. I am. I'm actually impressed by this democratic leadership right now by doing that move metoo. Amen. It's making me. I was a little kind of. I've always been a little wary of Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer like I like them. They're Democrats, obviously. But you know, some of the decisions that they've made some of the things like going against the new green deal and stuff like that kind of all you guys are like so mainstream. This to me is like you said showing unity showing partnership also not let. Cici Abrahams fade into the back. Relevant. Yeah. We need her. Also, let's not. Let's remember how fucked up that election in Florida was absolutely. Yep. Where well, and they're they're keeping the forefront. It's georgia. I mean. Didn't kill him as Florida, but you know, what up should happen there too. So I know you got them confuse. I can see how are you or confuse Mary? Mary mack. No, I'm alive. Thank you very much. And you not just in black little gray. Okay. Silver buttons down a bag God in the Sistan either. So I guess eight to find someone who I look at. This may MAC over there. You'll cedar. You'll not not being this Mary mad. Depressing has hell so greats all that gun that alliterate alliteration funny. If you wanna make. Into. Week some scary as leg mean rude semi racist comments in we're like, we'll it rhymes. You see that rival little Asian. That's fun. What else is fun are has a Thompson who we devoted episodes above on episodes to on the minority corner. I mean, we love her we do. In fact, we had episodes six degrees of test Thomson where everything we talked about accidents related because she was everywhere. I mean, she's great. We love her and she's even even greater because she put out for the four percent challenge. Did you hear about this? No, it's no I actually. Nope. I don't tell me. Okay. So the four percent challenge is she is putting out the challenge to actors are just to the folks in the industry. She's making a commitment that the next eighteen months. She's going to do a project with a female director. Guns from the only four percent of either lasts blasters movies or the movie in the last decade have been directed by women like ones that are top like demographic of top earners only four percents. And I think it's like top earners in terms of like it's a broad spectrum of fifty to one hundred movies four percent or directed by women. Terrible. Also, good. I'm glad we need to get more opportunities to the women that are directing. So we can live that percentage up with a listers like Thomson and other like even folks Jj Abrams have been like, hey, me and bad robot were in like people have been like committing to. Right. So. I don't know when you see things like that. It's just like a really I feel like a really exciting time in media in the country in the world. Ooh. Speaking of media have a little news that DVD today t the said. We were talking last episode. We talked about black horror movies, we dead. And you know, we always talk about Candyman. What do you say it you'll ever tell you say, I get chills? On you need to hold onto your chill factor. Because did you know that Jordan Peele is actually doing a remake of Candyman? You our fall I'm serve Candyman at least three times, and we spoke it into existence. I don't mind bad existence Jordan appeal, and then also. Fuck. It's gonna be scary as FOX like Keith Stanfield is excellent. Not only was he with our girls has a Thomson in sorry to bother you. He's also been in Atlanta. He was in good out. He's the Candyman. I don't know. They just said he's going to be in signed him to be in it. That's exciting. I mean, I'm excited and terrified at the same time. Like, I'm like pooping, my pants and waving my hands in the air. Like, I just don't care, but I do care all the same time. All right. I'll take this mix. It's a lot an image. But you know, what I mean? I think that I'll take success. Can I get in on garbage TV for a moment? Yes. But here's problem a one sided conversation. Just what a catch. This show. I have never watched cash me up on what's going on with the house wise and the. And so I just want to get into the game. I, you know, I want to be a little low brow to sometimes. Yeah. I know which is like I'm surprised I've never did my foot into the the warm waters of Minnetonka, but I suppose to its blowing my mind stop what you're doing and catch up right now everybody there's three new episodes week because this show is about bananas. Crazy. It's only one month. It is celebrity big brother. I don't know why can't get into the second the second year that they've done celebrity big, brother. They did it easier during the Olympics, and it was bad shit. Crazy, Julie Chen, moon vez, and she keeps downsizing that. She's Julie Chen Moonves. I'm so sad. 'cause she said such a great wonderful career for own and she's going down with this flaming sack of Jess shady has been and she's sticking by who the he is also what we deduce was part of the reason why Janet Jackson's career when he made it part of his mission after SuperBowl nipple gate destroy. Talent. He's a not. I'm not throwing shitty has been around loosely. Get. Act. You look in that different the merriam Webster. She has a definition in a picture, and it's just less moon beds. He's right there, and you know, CBS has gotten more diverse than T left. Yeah. Because don't they have like a woman running it? Now, probably like they've got all kinds like there's more. I mean, there's just more diversity that's popping up. And they feeling has it trickles down from the top. And there's like weird other CBS has been a dirty dirty house 'cause there's other actor guy who he had all these sexual harassment charges that he? Yeah. That guy. What was it was bull was the name of the show? I think it was called. Yeah. And it's still going on. And this guy all the anof. He I guess he has like nineties actresses because he used to be married to like just for a period of time when they are working Jessica Alba, not this guy who like a star of bull. Yeah. On a show called dark angel together. Oh, yeah. I remember dark angel from a million years ago. I think the middle name I watched it. I did you know, I love if there's a woman she's kicking punching, you know tuning in. Just get in. I'm there. Oh, brother. It's blowing my mind the houses bananas. How people up in the house? You got Tom green? You guy tomorrow doing anything Tamar Braxton? Okay. Kato fucking Kaelin Huma Caesar own name weird. But they're so random to it anything. Absolutely. Don't get me wrong. I'm not like, but it just so these people in a fucking house together. It's bananas in LAC e Lolo Jones. Even Marie something from the WWE. Oh, and my favorite my favorite DNA, low him the woman after my own I know liars dean, I mean, he is my inspiration. I have to inspirations of my life. No three I have three. Okay. Oprah though rock. Okay. Do you in a low hand those like a celebrity big brother house in his own rain? It's like I tried. I this aspire to be like all the end hinge. Just just so fun to watch. She doesn't know what's going on. Dina? Lows daughter is on the weirdest show my life her own show. It's like Mt. Lindsay's at the beach. House. Weird guy we won't dip into that. That's just just put a pin? Maybe watch fifteen minutes of it. And then be like, what did I just watch mother and daughter, they're both on the television screen right now three, you know, this dream, she's she's incited me. And my daughter people think we're sisters. We both have shows on right now. Lord, God that one guy from he hosts like cake wars, and you see on mean girls he was on. He was is that case workers in mean girls yet. He's the actor who played the love interest in Ingles. He's gay that guy has been making the rounds because he was just in our Yana Grandes video. Thank you his role. Oh, speaking of Arianna Grandes. She got a tattoo on her palm of her. Seven rings for her newest song that came out Chinese. I'm writing dead. It means small charcoal grill. Curl. Why did you like this? This. On your hand. You got all those assistance and people around you, you know, who she ate? She. No miss. Mary Mack ion Agron is no miss Mary Mack. Because you know, what miss Mary Mack would have someone check this. It's a work check this small charcoal grill. You are no miss Mary. Magnify on gone. Okay, speaking. So that guy he he was on celebrity, brother. Yeah. I didn't know he like verse one out of that hosted cake worse. She led see I don't understand the rules. Every time you could veto this vote on that you go outside of the house and then the audience, but I'm like what is happening. Sounds like role. Sounds like you got it. Yeah. No. Because there's a household the head of housing. They have to nominate two people for fiction. Sometimes there's three there's like a plot. Twist like surprised at the dominator another person they each have the opportunity to play for the power of veto only people play the power of Mito, but one of them could win and then take themselves off the block sometimes head of household to do is nominate two ponds, and then back door someone to then be the replacement nominee, and then the houseguests then all vote on on voting night and it spread out between three episodes in a week. And then there's there's just one winner. And they are the winner big brother there. It is not that hard. Yes. Now, it was like you Beautiful Mind me big brother race like well. I I'm waving my Dina. Lohan flag hardcore hope that the two year old woman can go the distance. She will. I mean, look, and she's she's a conniving lady. What actually know what she's actually just really just kind of going along with the flow of thing. You think she does not seem like she knows for shoes to all either though. But that Tamar Braxton is a mess. Oh, and what's her face from escape is in it candy. Yeah. Why that's the one person. I don't understand because one candy already has a TV show to she already is going on tour three TV show. She's promoting done a sex dungeon that she wants people to come to like a cabaret show money. What's she doing well kids baby anthem hurt candy Tamar Braxton have all this drama from when they went out on tour, and it's all unfolding in front of the big brother cameras. Why is candy Burs on there? She had you know, what she can live her life. I was doing her thing. The biggest noise Steve mood. Steve the mooch was in there. Like, it feels like it's like people leave the White House, and they go into the big brother house and try to like repair their like image. But then he ended up like a general thing. It's only this weird administration. That's doing the right. These from Obama's administration. This is how long I've been in this bizarro world. I'm like, this is what happens after you're in the work in the White House, then going. All the crazy people that have been working for this crazy administration. Well, he was trying to repair his image. And then like, I think he forgot he's also two hundred fifty million dollars. I think he realized what am I doing here, and he created his own like, he's just kidding? I wasn't really a house gas, but they made that up stupid doubt. Well, but you know, what this is kind of a good segue into my corner for ready go. Yeah. Where we going for your corner. Well before that orange chino, Cheeto Cheeto man, gives his head of the union address. I wanna get give a state of the que- union. Yes. I did there. He's selling. So I think I can you painted for the back of the house. Let's see what's going on over there. Is there a dull and a car out of bar on the street? I'm Allegra Ringo small dog owner my dog just Achio house when she's excited, and I'm really covert a big Doug owner, my dog tugboat tips over when he sleeps, and we co host a podcast called can I pet your dog that airs every Tuesday, we bring you all things dog. Yes. Dog news. Doug tech dogs. We met this week. We also have pretty famous guests on but legs not gonna let them talk about the projects. Just wanna hear about those dog? We don't wanna hear about your stuff only your dogs. So join us every Tuesday on max. State of the union union union. I give the dress dress dress all on your trust. I actually looked up the lyrics. Okay. Yes. Mary, man. This is kind of like, you know, what we'll say this the national anthem before the state of the union. This would get read or sung. Okay. What are the lyrics? Okay. So we already got the first part right mismatch black. She got silver buttons down her back. She asked her mother, what her mother three for fifty cents. Oh times Symes three times. Ooh. Math to see the elephants. See tickets. Jump over the fence is this zoo, they jumped so high they reached the sky, and they didn't come back onto the fourth of July. Okay. Dark version were using. There was someone that went to have been you keep reading. No, she just that's it. She just went. She wanted to go see some elephants jump, and they jumps. I feel like this is a watered add version for the nobody. I drove ever. Remember, someone it originated in Virginia in one thousand nine hundred eight okay, say Merrimack was what did they do? They have a bio about who is Mary Mack was where the story. Okay. Legend merry macwoods. I'm looking, but no how old is she went to her mom to go get fifty cents times three which is like a dollar fifty. Why it's one thousand nine hundred eight that's might be a lot of money for get goes on more. There goes to read the heaven. She asked for there's no heaven, it's all these elephants. So she asked her mother for fit five more south, God, see the elephants jumped the door jump so low they stub their toe. And that was the end of the elephant show. See I don't remember. This b side version. I remember tool she was star cast lying shit. She went to heaven heaven heaven Sime seven seven seven seven. Someone to have it in one of these nursery rhymes airfield was dark thinks you to our neighbors. Fact check on. Okay. I wanted to give the seat of the que- union address. There was so much news. I feel like I was learn about just the algebra t community that was happening. I want that we are all abreast of evidence happening. Yes. Usually, I love me a good quiz look at the facts out, but this week. No, I don't want any misinformation mixing anything. I don't want to mix up any facts. I don't wanna mix up anything in your head. So I wanna all these facts out correctly. Give me give it to me straight. Yes. Or give it to you about quarterly yet. Give it to me forward. Always forward. Type away. Told me as I was driving. And I've never I know you want said that's what I was driving. And I was like, okay. Pass it along you pass it along you pass it onto his name MAG. Okay. So the first thing is we're gonna start off with we're going to go on a journey. So the first thing is stowed Jesse small missing last name. Right. Is it Jesse smaller Jesse Jesse g you jesse's j you? Uh-huh. And he's a part of a famous family a lot of those siblings. His sister was in Eve's by you, also in the. The underground railroad or move that TV show that people were cancelled because it was so good. Apparently, I was just about to start banning it, and they are cancelled I know and that whole family had a cooking show on the food network. No, damn they're fun. They're fun siblings. Well, some stating news happen. I'm also upset every morning. They did not talk about this morning. I'm a little upset. They didn't talk about it this morning. This is headline news. So he is known for playing Jamal on empire. Which is sick thing. I mean, Jamal like an openly gay character on the show. And it's you know, it's a huge thing that have him on that show and that character, and he was the victim of racist. And homophobic, hate crimes by two white men in Chicago. I according to the two white men and ski mass reportedly approached the thirty five year old actor on Monday and call out racial and homophobic slurs. They said, aren't you that faggot empire you that faggot? Empire nigger and then began attacking him with some unknown chemical substance. I heard it was bleach. Yeah. Yeah. From this original apart. Yeah, I guess it was bleached that they found out. And there were some reports that they yelled out that like this is maga- Maga country. Although the police have said that that the haven't corroborated that out confirming it, oh they did. They are confirming it seal Chicago police confirmed it did say that see and. He also just a little back story that just Jesse also had been receiving threatening letters in the mail angle. Die. Black fag written disturbing ransom style cut out letters this just like Buro, my heart. So I mean, I just not to jump in. But the most important thing to me is that they put a noose around his neck. Yes. They broke his ribs. They put a new strategy. It was like they were trying to Lynch him. I just was like white year is this. And and I think like is a black gay actor this. Yeah. Terrifying. And in Chicago, I feel like yeah. I mean, I just I just like it just was it so haunting and it makes me feel just not not safe. And it's really frustrating because this is Trump's America. This is you at your creating and I can't I can't it's not that. I can't believe I just don't understand how come he hasn't do understand. But the fact that he hasn't come out and condemned these people like Trump, yes, he could Jaap this. If he like all of this violence that is coming out apparently in the Chicago police have reported a seventeen percent increase in hate crimes towards queer individuals since two thousand seventeen has changed. We had a new president come in. And that's not not just one specific marginalized groups like marginally. Groups like, hey crimes are just going up in this country and yet because people are feeling in bold. This is exactly what I was afraid of. They're getting permission to act this way when you hear when you go and watch the speeches by Trump, and you hear about him telling the silent majority that's his Wissel calling to white people into to people who are xenophobic, homophobic, racist all of those saying, hey, it's time for you to not be silent anymore. It's time for you to go out in fucking create Lynch mobs in kill us all the rest of us, basically. Yeah. Well, I have news for y'all. We're not going anywhere. And that and that hey that you have in your heart unions, if I can come to terms with it because it's just going to it's going to destroy you. That hate is venomous it is poison in sight of you. And you need the handle it you need to come to terms with the need to refine the love that is supposed to. Be in your heart. It's disgusting. I can't imagine treating someone like this. And again, so important for those of us who have family members that are, you know, wearing these red hats continue having these questions with them because left to their own devices. It is not good. A men to that. So my heart goes out to just Jesse smelling because I can't even imagine going through something like that can't even imagine. I'm just glad that he is. Okay. And it's just like someone was saying it's like, you know, a few things one either. This was one of our listeners was saying Dan was saying, you know, it's frightening about this is either like this was planned, which is also frightening. You know, this was random act. Not also frightening both ways that you look at it. And the fact that like, you know, not even a celebrity is is okay in safe in this. You know, Trump's America, right? I know it just goes to show that we were never post racial. I'm so disgusted with people that were trying to say that after Obama was elected late. Yeah. We it's a continue work that we need to do because this was lurking. Yeah. It was always lurking for those of us in the court community. I'm especially many of us who are you know, either appears see in. Queer trans we like, I feel like it should be awakening. Call for those in the community that there's still so much more work to do because he was targeted for being both black and gay and that like news outlets to call. It what it is summers thing that it's like racially motivated. No, this is a fucking hate crime like call it what it is don't like Chinese sugar coat it call it what it is exactly. It's cowardice to me to say allegedly or racially motivated like you said or potentially whatever call it like you said name it name it say, the abusers were racist and homophobic. And also we need to really like you were alluding it before. That's the whole purpose of this podcast is talk about intersection -ality, this is violence on an intersection -ality basis. Absolutely. It was it wasn't purely racist. It wasn't purely homophobic. It was both. Yeah. Both. Yeah. Well. You know, the world could use some more heroes. And luckily, the CW has some really amazing queer heroes coming to your TV screen to inspire us to act up back. When you saying C W as I'm just a magic actual superheroes. 'cause they have the gamut on that right now. They have locked about legit superhero. Yeah. So I have not jumped on this because I got over. Well, but I'm gonna have to get my job back in been hearing such great things. So there's three queer characters actually about three or four queer characters and all them CW shows. So black lightning has one coming out. She is thunder and see is the first black lesbian superhero to be all up on your TV screens. So I believe she'll. Yeah. And she's like the daughter of black lightning and for characters. Name is a niece appears N she call out clap clap when she's about to do anything. They're going to be like making it like there's so many great lines. I'm sure it's like work into their and luckily already got like a lot of applause because early show that challenges things like police brutality. On. I just give the snaps for this, you know, teen sort of superheroes. Soap operas show that is tackling these issues isn't but isn't black lightning like in a middle aged man in that's nothing to a middle aged, man. But for the show, I mean RT's. Teens and people are teens heart. And also like her character like the writing on the show and really at the plot. Probably the writers behind the show that I feel like I think his name is Greg. Greg Berlanti is the mastermind behind a lot of the TV shows that have been doing so well. Kevin Feige behind the scenes gotta gotta TV for the TV series and her. So that her character is are always been kind of like, you know, her admires on the show. Like, she's she's looked up to people like Rosa Parks inherit top men, and apparently like her her nickname on the show. I don't know how I don't know. That's a really long nickname. Yeah. Short name. But I sure oh also what happened the Harriet Tubman being on that twenty. On what was a Harriet, Tubman suppose to be on the twenty on the O, D racism, and our government leaders. Well, then just go to that escapism go to the W, and and get inspired by these here's because there's another one on supergirl. Maynes is playing NIA. Now, who is a trans superhero transfer. Is the actress trans herself, you know? They are you know, they doing it. Right. They're not Scott. This or Diego. Luna invis-. Yeah. No, Greg Berlanti doing right. He's doing right. It's actually a trans actors and also trans like activists as well. I link this. But there's a really amazing Mary. Sue did a really really great interview with the actress. And apparently like it's getting up thought it because it's handling the plot. And the in the character just doing it. So well where awesome being in the complete focus? It's a part of their life. But they're also they're also have aliens. So they've got this other sort of intrigue about them as well. Section -ality. Yes. Holy intersection. -ality trans alien like there's a lot going on. And so it's been able for them to be able to speak up about alien rights on the show their character. You know? And also have a love interest brainiac five who they've been flirting with so they're they're like lake layered of very layered sort of character and people have been really feeling it. They said, quote, the response from young folks, and especially young transports who are seeing themselves. Superheroes for the first time has been so warming. It's it's really good. It makes me really happy. I have a hard time kind of finding the words except for. It's just good. So that kind of no that's good. That's what they said to all. Hall. I in also to I there's already the like the aero has a black gays black gay male superhero they've had on this show for a bit. And then bat women is coming out with with your least favorite one of. She's not on your highlights. What does it mean to brew rose can prove me wrong as much as she apparently got Matt she already had our introduction into the verse and people were feeling that. So they liked it can it and she's going to be a lesbian about women as a as her roots, lesbian. I think that woman is a lesbian in the complex as well. So I'm glad that they're not being like, here's her boyfriend. Yeah. Exactly. So I'm glad they're staying true to form in the show. Yeah. Sounds like they're doing a lot. They're doing really good for the w I'm very happy. I also really impressing just like, I always feel like superheroes. And by that whole entire world should always be pushing the Jon Rao in the same way that I feel like Star Trek does also plugs. Every fucking amazing. Like, Kat, your free week trial binge-watch it from you for the weekend. And then cancel it. And it's it's so worth it's amazing. I mean, you didn't hear from us. But that's what used to do inches. So worth at this black female lead, captain on the show. Extra Salata cats. You James you'd literally got a check from CBS accents. And. People had a skirt this. You're right. Because you know, what this show is so worth that. There's like gay on Star Trek there's gay characters on there. What does face is it Wilson Cruz? He's spend my so called life. He's been floating around. These hasn't been around in a minute. And it just pops up here and there for like a one episode thing. Like remember me Wilson Cruz, we're like, oh my God missile called life. And then he'll disappear. Is it Anthony Rapp the guy who is in rent? He's in it ten rob is also. Cynic Martyn green who's she left walking diabet- joy to join the show. Michelle Yeoh is in the showed Michelle Yeoh is the is the captain on the ship. Like hell. Yeah. It's so dope. And I feel like it does what Star Trek is supposed to do which has pushed the envelope of how like things are supposed to be in terms of representation, and they were like every it's like, oh, yeah. This is exactly how it should be. It's just it's so fucking dope. I can't recommend it enough. That's awesome. That's the best. The elections coming up. We got a male. You're right. I was trying to segue. And I realize oh, it's gym nearly two years away. Yeah. Well, it's like it's. Yeah. Damn near two years. People were saying like, oh, man. Like, it's you know, people are saying that they're running so far away. But I think it's partly like an impart that some people are not household names. So it's a way for them to get their name out there. And you know, again, you got to work twice as hard to get half as much just look at this that like Joe Biden is still beating everyone, and he's not even announced if he's even running you know, what I was thinking about though, which actually kinda makes sense. So you know, how when you have all your candidates. You're all there, you have your they have their arguments or whatever their debates, but you gotta once it starts, narrowing down. That's when you start picking your running mate. Yeah. So I think a lot of these people that are announcing their run may not be actually gunning for president. They could be gunning EP look at you how politico political in their my God that was like some. Dope. Ask political analysis right there. I it right here. I obviously agree which I do think. Like, no matter what you're going to see a Li like some women representation on the ticket at the top. It hopes how the first four folks to come out of the gate where women, you know. Party. How could you not and not just because they're whip? But they're also incredibly qualified so right? So there's also a potential gay candidate who's going to be running his name heat. I can I had his last name how to pronounce it. And I lost it. I had it last night. And I it's Bhutia trying to Ziege boots shake, but it's like the first four letters are. But so I'm like, oh like, you know, going up come on. You're in your thirties, James. Oh past. Push past it. I forgot having a goat with buttons name. But then it made me think, you know, why gay or straight everybody loves butts. So I don't know why that's always come towards. Ooh. Gay like, no human. Well. Yes. Everybody loves but's. That's fine. Too fun. Nothing wrong with that. You got when I got one we all got a book. So we that would Mike campaign slow again, you know, what come together because we all got put James Arthur Martin twenty twenty you endorse this show. My name is I had I had doors. This message. He's the potentially the first openly gay presidential nominee. He is mayor currently mayor right now and the tweets have been wear grow. Okay. I don't know look at the gate. That's not hard. I only put it some notes. I knew you're gonna come way too much energy into the fact that he has his name. But not where he's the mayor of some city. I dunno. Tune into the tomorrow he'll be on there, and he'll tell you what cities. Get a decade is shake. Glad you don't go to the college where I'm the library. I know this is the school into my neighborhood leave Mary, and I did I swear I mean come on that. Okay. All right. I'm not here to school, ju foreigner too. But the tweets have been awful about him from some people countries. So there's that people are garbage. They wanted to bring him up because take a look at this platform get to know him, and he might be a candidate that you might want to get behind to help support. Like as I said like all these candidates. There's it'll be so many wherever you are. They're going to need boots on the ground to get the word out to help out. So again, get involved this political season. Yes. And also I'd like to reiterate, it's okay to like multiple candidates. You don't have to throw your weight behind one just testing the watery. Now, remember someone's gotta be somebody else's running. So in fact, I might like there's a few candidates. I am there's two cannons. Sign might be my throw my hat into help. Kamala. Harris. Marian Williamson might help them both. And I also might not even I don't even know I work with the candidate and still not completely like say I'm gonna vote for them yet. 'cause I like there's support someone without does that makes sense that makes complete sense because a lot of times when you support a candidate who let's just face. It probably doesn't have a good chance of getting on a ticket. They could help other candidates focus their attention on issues that they normally wouldn't you know, if you have somebody who's more liberal than that force a moderate candidate to be to actually look into liberal issues. So this is this is a long haul like you said it's almost too damn years because yeah, it's twenty nineteen but it is February twenty nineteen and we're going to know twenty twenty. One time things are going to change come out like it's just. Yeah. And stay involved. Stay active. Cool. Your Tate's everybody who is cool. Another over. It's all. Okay. Not strapped to I don't know. What's going on with with these absent internet, so SCRUFF just SCRUFF is for those of you who are not into dudes who are also deemed scruffy. But that's because you with me in you on this podcast, that'd be telling you, and I also read oh, well, look at her. She's I'm an hour. You're like, I'm Allah. I even make an account. So I can be like, hey, hey. I'm here to investigate these site note. Yes, I was recently told by a gay friend of mine that they were surprised that I knew what prep was because there are other straight friends. Didn't know what prep was I'm disappointed in you straight people, you need to know a prep is in fact, your research research open, your eyes to huge big amazing thing. And it's actually it's not just for gay men to everybody is more than welcomed. If you feel like you about yourself HIV like get on the prep get on the train. Yeah. That's that is ear Tate. Sorry, fair enough. That is a fair. Invalid irritation to voice on the podcast. Yes. Okay. So back to SCRUFF so SCRUFF is like I am currently not using any of the dating apps giving Zaidi it would be my go-to Abba choice. Yeah. They give them a lot of bathroom photos. Those are just very for you in my Instagram. My Christmas card photos. That's. Anything you'd be surprised? Okay. Just do it. Nice traditional way you like to be slid into. I hate. I hate it. Oh my God. I hate that phrase. Wow. What? Sorry. It's like I hate that phrase slide into my DEA learning things for me. Gross assay. You sent me a message that don't gross God. I know that's my restful. That is a weird that's like a side threshold because you can you have gone. Flight into the I can't even say it slide into can't. It's gross. Just say sent you a private message on your Instagram or okay, grandma. What is? Vulgar. That's all. Anyways back to the gay hookup app. So scrub just banned for those. A million things going on in my head that you have said on this podcast that I refuse to repeat. And yet slide and. Got it gets me. So it's so weird. It's. I am. Surprising that you brought that up because I meant to bring it up to you tell you that I don't like that phrase, and I forgot to and then you brought it up and why? I say it all the time. The universe. One is to have this outing in this discussion. Okay. Let's talk about scrap scrap just ban photos of jock straps. Underwear bikini style swimsuits or crotch shots. As your main photo. What isn't that like all it? Yes. And so apparently, see you silver, Eric Silverberg towels out that scripts new policies to comply with policies of out stores that host the app because apparently, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I like it can still have a private album share. But like it is a little frustrating because it's sort of like is this the cost of being mainstream lake? Also tumbler also issued the ban on like porn, what is happening with the interruption these apps incorrect here criteria way with personal pages. Like, personal didn't even what's incredulous the Craigslist Craigslist Craigslist. Yeah. Yeah pages. So it's like what's happening down on on our king on our hooking up in our sex are excavations. I know I feel like people should be able to do whatever they want to do. Well, concern consenting adults adults should be able to do whatever they wanna do ever to get their rocks off. So I don't see why people are laying down laws. It sounds like people's own Rosie's in own. You know, like, it's it's very draconian. And I don't like that. I'm with you. I'm with you. So that's the update I have a few more was breezed through quick as. Yes. So speaking of dating apps, they may not have been the reason for the decline of IMG bars. So it's not just lesbian bars. According to one estimate, the number of algebra Tiki bars and clubs in the US has dropped twelve percent between two thousand five and two thousand eleven eatable corner on this right? Why did it specifically about the lesbian bars? And I it was like the even gay bars as well. And so again, part of it might be because of the acceptance because of except mainstream acceptance case a moved out of the gayborhood and move into the suburbs, which I don't get but some living people. Don't get like we said can't can't knock somebody's king. You're right. But I was thinking I don't feel necessarily. I'd feel safe raising like being gay out in the suburbs. But the same time like look what happened to Jesse and Chicago. So I guess that's not a fair assessment. And. Yeah, like, I just couldn't. Yep. Just it's a whole other thing. I applaud people who do move out to the suburbs because you're dealing with you know, other parents and other people's should he has kids and called us acts lemonade stands and all that stuff. Like, it's just it's a lot. So on Jim. I think it's also. I mean, I personally wouldn't move out to the suburbs. But I can see the appeal. Yeah. Yeah. And so now bars are will also used to a place for us to rally against the machine, but that's not really happening up bars, but we do need to still stay awake. Because when you have things like the trans military band. Yeah. And it just seems like yet. So I it seems like it's makes me works. I know it's such it's such a pinnacle of our culture of our history into see those like earth being raised. I don't know. It makes me definitely makes me sad. And also because to repulse drag race like people don't to go out to the they can see queens and what they who they feel like some of the best queens from the comfort of their own home. It's true. I also hear the that watching repulsed drag race as a community in a bar is is fun though tabs. Yeah. Also, I guess, you know, younger kids are pre gaming and pre drugging before they go out gay bars are also just expensive to run. The cost of permits and entertainment and properties rates that are going up. I also we talked about this when I talk about the lesbian bars, but they can also be gay bars. Can also be hospitable. Two lesbians bisexual trans people as well as undocumented people, the poor disabled people people of color and just people reported sex harassment in these spaces. So it's like well that doesn't sound like a fun place to go do so gays like fix this like do better in your bar. We need to have more intersection -ality. And I'm wondering, do you know, if probably not, but this might be something to look into the trend of just going to bars in general? Oh, if that's maybe maybe it was something like, I feel like you. And I like when we were of the twenties like it was the thing to do like just. Yeah. Yeah. All we did was drink lake. It was like every activity. It was like let's bring some booze going to the movies going bowling picnic. And I think that's still like obvious for like twenty year olds. But like I feel like there's more things to do like, there's more festival culture. Now, there's a coin because they're like, you know, I'd go to Coachella or what? Yes. So I wonder if there's like a different trend differ generation if things are changing because of that, I don't know if it's just across the board or if it's specifically for the LGBTQ community. I don't really I personally don't really go out to bars that on anymore for me. When I go to the cost show it seals. I don't like out here in New York. But the cosmos still seems like it's poppin. So straight guys are still going out in droves there. But they say you don't go out in New York. I don't, but I'm, you know, thirty three I feel like I've aged out. No, no. I mean league. I mean, we're talking about the the scene the way it used to be would be people up until their forties and fifties join their meeting ground watering hole. But also to a lot of my friends. My gay friends are all getting like engaged, and they're not going out as much as well. And they're getting married and stuff. So maybe gay marriage is a part of it too. I shouldn't have marriage equality. I think there's a lot of factors in point. So I don't know keep an eye on this, folks. But I I still think it's important for us to have our spaces in our bars and they've nothing to because of acceptance maybe some younger folks, don't feel like they maybe they feel comfortable going to Leakey street bars. But I don't know maybe I'm a different generation where I still need. My my gay space. That you're not going to. Mr. Francisco, I danced off their good point. Good point. Okay. Do last things. I definitely wanted to touch on. This is a long state of the queer union. But was working. I feel like those of us that are listening are enjoying do your thing. All right. Well, this is big this happened in your own backyard, and my own former backyard and knowingly exposing someone to HIV will no longer be a felony in California. Oh, yeah. Oh, see. Yes. So governor Jerry Brown wing Li knowingly exposing someone to each of you will no longer be a felony in California. It's going to be so Gary governor Jerry Brown signed a Bill Friday that lowers from felony to a misdemeanor. Jerry Brown's not our government and be more. It's Gavin Newsom. Oh, well, when does that start because this article LA thirty started well governor Jerry Brown signed the Bill. I don't know. He was like do outside. Good point librarian. I'll is not the clock. Day you could get away with. I've I don't know who the governor is I'm literally account for your resident. I kept I on that race to with Gavin Newsom. I would've voted for him. While somebody signed this Bill. Governor governor of California's I those spell so this also plays to giving blood. Now, this was led by my blue state, Senator Scott Weiner, who I was supposed to get set up on a date with. But did not, and we'll see what what he's a bed is a random, can, you know, I have I just want nothing more than to marry some gay politician, man. I will be somewhat. Okay. No. I wanna be the Robin right to his Barack Obama. Don't. It was a lot. I like those of their those some good dexterity there. I want to applaud you on. Because you you cherry picked the good. Yeah. 'cause like I is your like Robin right to his and I was like. Because also like I don't wanna be clear under what I want to be the acts like the actor and actress. Right trysts to marry politician, man. So glad you got my cherry pick Corless, really good. And you did that off the cuff? It's well, it's something I've been thinking about like, maybe. Okay. So my boo was saying that today, California took a major step treating HIV as a public health issue instead of treating people living with HIV as criminals HIV like all other series and pictures diseases. And that's what this Bill is doing. So the idea that it's going to reduce stigma and the commercialization of someone's health issue, essentially, and it's believed the current deters people from wanting to get tested from knowing. HIV status. An HIV is not the death sentence at once wise. Remember, what happened to tiger dingo who ended up survey tenure presence prison service? We talked about like episode six way back in the day. This has been used to send many game in around the country to jail often by a jury not of their peers, you just see them as gay and evil lock them up like that either. So porters of the Bill also said that women engaging in prostitution or also disproportionately targeted with criminal charges. Even cases infection was not even transmitted. So here's my thing. And I usually, you know, me I am as liberal as they come. But if someone knowingly infected with HIV, I would be pissed I'm not saying that I want them to be seen as a felony. But I do feel like I mean, like it's the same thing like with any STI. Well, that's the thing. That's what they're treating. And so. That you're committing someone to murder, and you're and so really like we haven't changed our stigma Arale worked through them in my own brain, which is good. Actually, this teams with another thing that just happened. This is like, and so this is the last one I wanted to talk about that the US government, declares HIV untranslatable in undetectable, folks. Oh, wow. Really that piggybacks with the last thing that just happened and why these having so again, I am not a doctor. So. I don't even play what on TV right now. And so I do advocate for a healthy combination of prep and condoms is the best way to keep yourself from staying HIV negative and also STI free because even prop does not, you know, there's been a rise. And as he is is everyone can do all dog and see. Right there. I was waiting for it. I was waiting. I knew you going to say something. And I knew it you did not just appoint that is nastier than sliding into. Oh god. That's. Yuning grocery than doing it rod dog. That's funny. Like, I don't know that slide into the, you know, why is that's who it achey. To recommend. But it sounds so nasty more than rod to. Absolutely I stand by this. I don't I mean, you can die on that hill. I don't. But a long-term study published by the National Institute for allergies and infectious diseases has reached the conclusion itchy plot. Plot. HIV cannot HIV positive people cannot transmit the virus when carrying an undetectable viral load. Yeah. The US agency twins three hundred health agencies around the world and supporting this finding and I guess it was done through you can link it. But there was like seventy seven thousand instances, economists sex between someone who is HIV positive and someone who is not and in mill same sex couples in the study found that not one instance of HIV transmission, among them happen. Which is why I believe this is where they get the you might see the equals you and the is undetectable equals on transmittable. And so there's trying to get people. Instead of there's a push to get even redefine classifying, people is not undetectable. But as untranslatable, and I think that's why you're seeing these new sort of laws, we just have some stigmata to change around. And I feel like it's more. It's polite though to let people know your status. Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think they just to not make like such like you're going to like a felony goes straight to present. Yeah. I don't get. I think definitely there's two different conversations happening that I think a lot of people who are especially conservative might mix up. And the the conversation is one why is this one particular would it be classified as infection or a disease? I believe it's a disease in factual and Watson infection. Okay. This one. This one virus virus? Is the virus is treated with such severe, you know, repercussion? But also there's the ethical stance where if you are just out there willy nilly spreading virus around. Yes. Just don't do that. Right about people. Exactly. It's supposed to be. And I get it. Because I mean the eighties. I was a tear. It's terrifying. And I think we need to not forget that. I'm god. There's so many, great documentaries and movies. So we can remember. I mean, I can't even imagine. How horrific it was of people just it was people were dying, and they didn't know what was happening in. But also, look how far that we've come. And so I think it's time, you know, as a nation as a world to heal from that into pivot right from that. And there's an article that there's five reasons that this is to support this is that the science behind it solid. Maitre health experts are on board. This is about HIV only. So it's not about as TI's and things like that. Which? Again, those rates are going up. But it yes. Yeah. Across the board. We're not just talking about the LGBTQ community. We're talking about every community. If you got something you treat yourself until people before you have absolutely. And in fact, everybody should be going if you're a sexually active. You should be getting checked out every three months it's every ounce now. Yeah. And there are plenty of if you don't have health insurance. There are free clinics in your area. So definitely getting those checked out at least if you're on prep. You get checked every three months, which kind of a bonus to being on prep getting checked and then also get some free condoms. They always got some pretty common you can use them for blowjobs too. But I mean who's going to? This is okay. Not to host do not agree on everything that is maybe. Maybe. Tick say who's gonna use Konin during a blowjob people say cherry flavor, and I applaud you done. But like not on me. I dunno Leno. Maybe you wanna go on a date. Okay. Sorry. Where's this going so safe? This is they feel like you need to be. Thank you. This is this is a major victory for HIV criminalization reform as we're seeing and this profoundly changes also how people HIV view themselves. Gene is someone who was HIV undetectable. And I know that they went through as well that. Yeah. So if you are HIV positive have hoped there is light at the end of the tunnel for you to be negative. There's so many ways we were talking about for you to stay safe. Again. I'm not doctor not a doctor like just your own research and your own facts for yourself and. I'll I link an article to Greta Garbo being there original Celebi end as after after Ellen put in there and just trying to make sure I cover all my queer union bullet points. Boy, slim, fat, boy, slim and his son came out as bisexual so all the L G T O. What we what was this, Greta Garbo thing that you would if we just had a fever dream right now with there's an article I'm gonna link to how Greg originals Sulaiman. So she was lesbian. Yeah. There's an article that one was oh, yeah. I needed some needed to connect the dots with that one a little bit. Yeah. Well, I I think you for going on and that is the state of the union. That's our state. That's who that was good. I feel like I'm up to date on everything you really kind of laid it down in a way that makes me want to slide into your d. Mary, matt. My name is Mary Mack. And I do not approve that message. Hello. This is Amy man. 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Turn the beat around or whatever getting close get on your feet. Oh. Close. You were close get on your feet. I'm sad because left knee. It's been here. A here in New York for like two three years some of these musicals just like skate on by or like, no one except. By for three years. Yeah. I mean, no one I know who lives here has seen it. It's not one of those. Like that show. Same Donna summer musical has been here. Donna summer has been running and it'll come to you. Nobody's going. Because it's it's running close down. Like some of the other stuff like Spiderman. I'm sad. Nobody's talking wolf. Spiderman pastor or king com, which is like not doing too. Well. Sounds trees. Amazing. It takes nineteen people to operate the King Kong giant puppet. And see. I love a block the lead. This this. Oh, see it and said it was spectacular and amazing the music is forget bowl. But the tree is fucking phenomenal like nineteen person. Like, it's huge. It's like, it's huge. Yeah. 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#183: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 2 - Men in Black: International

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#183: Galaxy Defenders, Pt. 2 - Men in Black: International

"How do we get closer to the line between what you believe someone on the passes an end soon take the session maybe we maybe through the pass but the plants not through without welcome back to the next picture show movie the week podcast devoted to classic film in a way it shaped her thoughts on a recent release i'm key steps here again with scott tobias genevieve kofsky robinson last week we discuss the nineteen ninety seven hit men in black starring will smith and tommy lee jones is agents from mysterious organization created to keep alien visitors to earth in line and under wraps this week will be talking about men in black international which reunites chris worth and tessa thompson to the stars of thor ragnarok directed by f gary grade phone tries rekindled thompson in him source fun chemistry from the war ragnar awkward doesn't quite get there in fact it doesn't quite get anywhere they remain charming but the film find some flailing in the middle of the lifeless story about intergalactic entry its attempt to take the minute black concept out a deep freeze better ride still have frozen but as a key study of how blockbuster so changed over the years and how some franchises kerryon long after they've lost their sport it makes were pretty interesting contrast we'll get to that in a bit first a short break and then let's find out if everyone shares my feelings about men in black international we do recognizable earliest days onto just the previous agent am i believe it will be patient best effort to whether some dressing up in my daily meditation type of lunch i think you it's nine thirty tuesdays talking about something that we've been compromised much for several says it's not just a rich guy you don't just look dry dry fun flip on within there's gonna be a big red button robert somewhat found that you know we all the men well does anyone like this movie i i liked it entirely fine this was an okay movie that was utterly all right yeah i mean i i'm all right so my my kids my shared and she's like that was a really good he wasn't in my wife and i were like yeah sure i never owes actively i remember actively heated at the end i never i would never like a winless end like with with the cubs election in the monsters but he just really didn't have have no what go ahead go ahead i would watch watch last month times before wondering this thing in a recession that's got really hated this yeah okay tell me while i did but i but i think we know jimmy these things i wanna hear what she thinks were oh i mean i think i probably fall kind of where tasha is maybe a little more mad about it like it's taken action that'd be more mad about this hanging out i think swab the ultimate many other movie amuse ends just like man writ large ship this movie is how mac can you be in just like the the word that came into my head like it was hurt like it just it felt like it just sat there it never kicked into another gear there is no like real spark to eight even with these two very sparky stars at the center of it and that was disappointing but but nothing about this film it so i found actively that if that makes sense like i was disappointed but like i wasn't angry at this moment you know just like well that was two hours i spent i'm i'm glad i went to the early show and only paid six dollars for how those michigan prices sounds like he really hated that movie now oh one scott tonight i'll write me yeah i think it's absolutely horrible i don't know why but the the film you're describing you're saying it's amazing how much of a feeling for it i mean to me that's the type of movie the gets me angry a is a movie the just doesn't have anything going for all it's not trying to do anything special it seems to be just almost perversely emphasizing the stuff that isn't working up about it i mean it's like here's a film with his they angel hair plot in tons of it like lots of point you recall what happened in this movie is like a days later the what what happened in the zone right right i mean there's a lot of nonsense and all the men in black movies i mean there's always some sort of like universe threatening staying in even in the first round the black it's like okay there's a cat but like a global around its neck and okay there's a great galaxy around his neck fine but but but this one just keeps piling on his if that is the important part in stopping important part i think there's absolutely no chemistry whatsoever between the stars there's there's no labs weird right because they were good together and throw it right but it really charming people really good actors but but the difference again is like is where's the contrast whereas the comic tension in the movie because the first one is such a model of that have just like giving you these two characters who have who are so different and have a you know in talking about how how much the same they were illegal it's like they come around to it or something right but it's still it's still this kind of bouncy fresh prince character in in this crusty old guy and a swath on the crusty old guy in this case is the rookie tessa titled talking about the original look you're but you're here i mean i think one of the things that's fascinating about men in black international is that on paper a lot of this works really well and seems really thought through you have the rookie coming in a but this time she's the one who's a uptight and to serious and takes everything in a in a grim kind of way and like is really determined to prove herself and then you have these old veteran who this time it's like the loose swaggering bucking authority one who thinks like he could do whatever he wants an it's it's a nice little flip on me original and it also acknowledges just kind of what their strengths are you know him so worth kind of caught that like that lose hip to like look at me i'm great and tessa thompson is really good at the kind of intense try hard like all of this should work and it just doesn't know there's no such attention it will then there's also the emphasis on things that don't matter i mean just it's it's right there in the title it's like who cares if there's stupid agencies around the world who cares like so so so what you're telling me that there's not only men in black in new york there's also one in paris and i mean that's the movie i mean i was i was i was really fine with the whole idea of aliens living among us that i that was but you're exactly they have offices in paris and london do you find like some sort of subway especially if it's amazing but it ties into the other thing the movies tried to be which is basically kind of a science fiction james bond movie with a lot of gadgets in a fancy flying lexus and which i hated us come on just like half a second without some advertisements in the middle of a movie it's just that kind of stuff drives me crazy but it's like it's just not what's good about men in black it's not been a bike is not fun 'cause it's international spy movie i dunno so that's me i i was not i was a strongly against this moving in as far like comparing it something like godzilla king of the monsters i mean we've got our muscles gave us monsters kind of like it's kind of dreams striking images and this just gave me nothing on her i don't even remember much of it i think the fundamental problem here is just that there are arcs there's no sense of the characters like wanting something strongly at the beginning of the film that they get or don't get at the end like tessa thompson really wants to join the men in black but she gets that the fbi but like before the first act is even over an you know it's not gonna be rescinded it's not gonna be taken away from her so she and she's done and then you don't see her continuing to be a try hard you don't see her worrying about her place and the men in black you don't see her worrying about successor failure it's like her arc is completely done the moment the woman emma thompson says okay find you could join and then how worst character we're told repeatedly that he used to be an incredible agent and he's not anymore but we just don't get anything that feels at all like emotional about that we don't get any connection with that hair off for either really it's kind of sets forgotten after a while i'm bringing it up right or good point where you find out that his memories been a race yeah i never feel an actual impact of it yeah i mean there's an interesting article in the in the hollywood reporter out to behind the scenes but it but about how someone is basically being rewritten you know day by day and how tops of henceforth of their own dialogue riders and and and a really does feel stitched together and the director and producer were fighting about what the content in the movie should be in it was originally like a much sharper metaphor throughout about an application to i mean have out to the to the original and i got thrown out or nothing yet how character like really disappointed me how it was wrapped up become kind of alluded to this in the in the last episode the whole thing with the neural wiser and the like finding finding out you're memory was wiped especially for someone who knows what that means and you know and has presumably done it themselves like it seems like it would be really traumatic and were told throughout the movie like he's changed she's different something's wrong wrong with him and then at the end of the way it's like okay something what's wrong with him because he had this experience of being normalized and it changed him and there's just no payoff for that you know like they're like it seems like the film is kind of circling this idea of like ptsd or something you know like there there's a lot going on with that concept they could be like their strength there could be pulled in interesting ways and it's like no now you're the head of the london branch good for you in everyone's once fine you know like so much of this movie it's like there's there's something there that could be interesting like both built into the men in black premise an end to this movie specifically in it just doesn't go anywhere it just is like okay here's some more plot that gets us to another accident scene like the credit you know i did really like be a aliens played by twins who are a dancers and models in choreographers and a whole bunch of different things that they do they work with me on say a bunch yeah they they have interesting careers i just really liked the design of those aliens i found some kind of beautiful and threatening at the same time and i really enjoyed their how it's like intense and threatening their powers seemed to be and that's kind of like endemic to the whole movie because they're really authentically scary at times in a way thee actual threat of the movie the true revealed threat just isn't a in the movie gets rid of them not super early but like way before the final climax in a pretty dismissive off handed kind of way and it's meant to be kind of a false ending it's meant to be kind of a false like oh everybody can relax everything is fine a kind of the ring style thing but it just it doesn't have that impacts like the movies over at the end of the second act okay cool i guess oh there's another threat i don't care about that threat the threat hasn't been set up in a way that makes me invested in it all so what about parmi oh god like honey i i commend engine non giuliani's edge i think is comes across like more than anybody else's like the big problem with the film is there's there's no sense of edge to it it's like it's like the screenwriters really afraid that we might not like are main character's for even a second and it would have been so easy i think to make a thompson like care so much about all of this and and worry about it so much that she's unlikable it would have been easy to make hams worth character a so changed so damage that he's unlikable and then have both of them improve by the end of like move toward each other pani actually you're describing is is a movie like pani says things that are mean i ended up kind of low blows another kind of rude and he's the only person in the film it they trust do that he's so negligible he's so unimportant did they action despite the big moment they give him that he end he's other totally unimportant are really important but i couldn't sorted out because the plot made sense to me like i have no earthly i like i think he's disposable but i'm not sure but i was actually kind of happy to have that character they're just because i think well none johnny has that just came improvised pretty well i mean like he's funny in the film needed some kind of spark and he provides it and nobody else nobody else on screen does the same time he's joe patchy in lethal weapons three it's he hasn't oliver however there's just a light yeah well since that's also kind of forgot about him some time to do a but i i thought i don't value when they're raising innings and he was at i mean it's think bruce prefer forty the pony forci for he does have a an interesting energy going on i just feel like there's so many interesting ideas in this film but don't play out and one of the big ones is the idea that tessa tessa thompson character molly slashed agent am is a huge fan girl for the men in black which is something that a the latest star wars trilogy did with with ray this idea of the new characters are fans of the old character's the new characters are blown away by the characters and so the new characters are meant to represent us looking back on these old character's with like fondness unfamiliarity there's just a sense that like she knows what the men in black are and she she desperately wants to be she's supposed to be are audience avatar onscreen so why is she so boring is very boring yeah they're both pretty well it wasn't what's the deal with this film with the wages telegraphs twist can't like the mall i mean come on you can send as a as a surprise kilter like obviously it's clean inside and then also and then also reappearance of the of a larger version of this creature but she had encountered as a child i mean it looks the same as a big new film makes it makes it seem like it has that review all come to us later it's like we already know that we know who he is i i will i will say my my husband did not see that one coming up and i know sitting there going you you get you know you can't like yeah i like when you when you meet that thing there is no purpose to that scene i mean in syria that's a scene that makes her wanna become a man in black but she makes no damn sense whatsoever the men in black show up in her like oh you've got a super dangerous alien banging around somewhere near your apartment work on i not do anything about were crazy tell you a bunch of stuff you absolutely do not need the no which is kind of a hallmark of all of the men in black movies and then we're gonna race it and why do they keep doing this like why bother tulsa civilians a hey there aliens andrew you've got one of them in your backyard and it's not a raccoon it's totally an alien that were gonna race everything we just said like is it satanism my attempt to justify it is that they're checking for humans who are like you know oh yeah that's my my neighbor daily unlike humans who do know what's going on and when they get that blank look they're like okay it's safe dinner last year but as it plays out in the film it's just kind of like you called the cops on the domestic disturbance next door and they came and ask you a few questions and never went next door like they don't find nearly and they don't even try to get the way yeah i mean i think there is some tim anderson has eight as a very good review of this and mel magazine seeing where you kind of kind of lumped into the category of of zombie franchises which i think it's just a very evocative phrase just to be you know so much of the of hollywood filmmaking now it's just based around not on stars were well past lecture will smith could open any movie phase of big budget filmmaking right now it's it's they're based on brands and and like it'd be brand is just too powerful to not keep putting out movies in some ways and i think you know even in the hollywood reporter put article notches on trouble this had that there's like in this probably won't even kill men in black is probably just put it on hold for a while they don't come back and some other form i think zombie as a really good metaphor for the circuit here's where i don't i'm looking forward to a new men in black movie comes out and talks and another thing there's really no reason for this to be ashford gettable is it is other than the process itself is kind of broken and you only be will to make amen and black movie by a certain date is a lot stronger stronger than to try craft really good men in black movie that'll that'll make the franchise meaningful in some way again yeah you mentioned in your intro that this was the latest and probably last film in the men in black franchise and i don't know that that's true globe that that that hollywood reporter article ended with the end executive saying yeah there's there's gonna be another one a series the streaming or as another movie some format you're gonna get more of this thing you want in the stories raise their hand naturalized implant plus plus will be a little global locations were were were hollywood films open right now hong claiming to be a nice one in hong kong haven't yeah to do they have offices in hong kong i i mean do i need to see maybe the fight a total of chinese right you you opened up a new markets the morning or the bottom line well clearly the next one is gonna be men in black interstellar gonna be the one where they have to chase in alien to its home planet and the deal with how weird aliens are in their own world as opposed to when they try to fit in with us or they have their own men in black thing where humans orleans scott you know they're writing the screenplay holly wack job have a phone number it's at the end of every at every episode we can't pass up a machine at one point there is talk of doing the men in black a tornado wise jumping three over like me just say this before congress that does sound amazing were terrible you know i don't know i mean i could i could deal with it being both i could alien nearby school probably right like like men in black infiltrating alien or infiltrating high school that has aliens isn't it back trying to infiltrate an alien high school training infiltrate high school well dressed is aliens there's so many possibilities well what a well run operations will be mostly i i would watch that movie for the inevitable shirtless list pose off between channing tatum in chris hemsworth absolutely i would watch any movie for that jonah hill and tessa thompson standing in the background like doing color commentary were gonna write that scripts to scott right at this point i feel like we've officially run things to say about that black international they went right back talk about in a bucket you know but in in relation to the original many skews me what happened here we had the best party konya i showed up and drop like a whole new album look just get my queen who never serve another i must end my own life in the most painful way possible think she would lynching ten you know you'd know what a queen would or wouldn't want are you a queen well i mean they sent on women are yes but no no i'm not going you know what she those agents that a title is a maybe the best way to honor the dead is gone living yes i pledged loyalty atonal do you age it i'm not interested in a subject to like it's done it's like the loyalty i wish you'd said no no no before and if you should die before i i promise to end my own life spans possible yeah but don't like you know type of connection where we bring these two films together and talk about all things have in common genevieve you wouldn't talk about do he says as you all about the duties in in this and these films it's not just any do cosmic do he's now i mean like broadly i kinda wanna talk about you know the weaponry in technology in the stone but specifically i was struck by the sort of similarity between the the galaxy honor ryan's collar andy you know sort of cosmic do hickey that a fungus gives to tessa thompson character that turns out to contain star that is also a weapon and similarly the galaxy in the first men in black was positive is like it could be a weapon you know it could be used as a weapon then if it got into the wrong hands but what struck me in different about the way it was done in the first film is we had that weird ending shot where like zooms way out in the galaxy is just a one marble in a bag and marvels the aliens are playing west end so they kind of like briefly an oddly engages with this idea that like there are civilizations in in these little galaxies that are just kind of disposable and could be weapons or other civilizations stations you know an in men in black international like no it's again it's a big old gun you know that struck me is a direct connection but just kind of more broadly i i wanna talk about the you know the tech and they still who's the touching men in black international mean that weapon is so crazily powerful i mean they test it opens up a grand canyon practically so it's pretty huge i i'm surprised that the film seems to be obsessed again i compared it to james bond on wip gadgetry with cool cars and subways and in these super powerful weapons i think more of that would stand how i guess it does i mean i'm much more one thing about the first minute black i think you think about that pawn shop stop in the way that set up in the way the weapons reveal themselves in that scene is just so much cooler you know even though you know they don't necessarily know what each individual weapon does it just kinda cool to see hey there's a whole arsenal of these things that you need in order to do job conventional guns bruce dern work i like the noisy cricket oh that's what i was gonna bring up to yeah there's also just the the gag of will smith and the noisy cricket you know he tommy lee jones has a gigantic gun a will smith has he teeny little gun that does a lot more than you expected to like both of them sort of have a kind of a like a signature feel in a whole bunch of gags built around those weapons and then at the end of the movie will smith gets a big size gun and makes a big size deal out of it in metabolic international it's kind of a joke there just constantly they're surrounded by weapons like hauser thompson just are driving around this car that's made entirely out of weapons like it so much made out of weapons but i don't even understand how it functions as a car because every single piece of it is also a gun it's alexis that's how it functions back in here you doing the voice over no it's alexis that's how it functions it made of web yeah no wonder they just like a hug a jog it was like an old ford or something in the in the first movie you know they're they're lying about it's like an old rocks bucket but it has the red button yeah and then the red button comes back there there's definitely a sense that the the people who wrote men in black international national watched and rewatch and rewatch men in black for so many of their like specific gags and go twos and the red button is one of them it's like don't press the red button okay it's time to press the red button and then they have to keep coming back to the red button and how excited pony is depressed the red button in the new movie somehow v again they affect us just laughs also i kept wondering how do you keep yourself secret when you literally turn your car into a jet on a street like whenever you want i just assume it has like bill clinton earl liser along on the hubcaps something the speed you know exhaust afternoon surfers yeah apparently speaking of call back to the first film i forget where exactly where i read this but i guess tessa thompson what's pretty adamant that she would not say i make this look good you know but that was definitely something that people want it the happen you i think that's fine is a good standard that's a good stand the take you don't want to just be you know completely remember the first one yeah if you don't wanna be thought of as lady will smith like maybe don't take his biggest catchphrases and try that just redo it yeah i know that everybody's gonna compare yeah i'll be back though that was waiting for her to say that was leading further say you know i made good it's true well she hasn't said but i kind of brings me to my connection we're gonna talk about actors and that's that's movie stars because you know and as i said in the first segment particularly with regard to will smith i mean that is eight movie star a you know i mean he's a fine actor at cetera but he is primarily this incredibly charismatic figure who takes us through the world of the movie and it's with so much so much ease i mean there's such a presence to him and and and i feel like this movie the the new movie been a block international is indicative of a much a larger isis that were were having now in hollywood movies where i think concepts are much larger than the human to bring those concepts to life so you may have a collection of very attractive and talented versatile actors actors of which thompson hemsworth are but you don't have stars in my opinion i don't think in in and i think that the absence of star power is part of what makes men in black national all the more incoherent because you just don't have that released wrong focus you don't have that transcended presence it's really gonna kind of bring the whole movie together i mean the movie is got so many problems with that is definitely a big one for me yeah there's a to ashes i liken and i look forward to seeing in movies but you're right there's there's an absence of you know star someone that everything orbits around in east don't get that here in any non for roles have been a lot of chris hemsworth just based on screen what is he's funny in go go go faster but it but it was so many of his roles is leading manner just like wildly flat just like what like what happened to this guy who could be so charismatic and funny as stored as is in ghostbusters another other performances and then in the movie like this just give you nothing gonna get you in trouble with half of film twitter right now you're ready what a blackout i can't comment on what else i will indeed and rage other one half of film put it all together i really enjoyed him in bad times of yellow brielle now which i believe is one of my next picture show picks possibly after somebody else already picked it like yeah he he brings a tremendous that role and a sexuality that's a weird in dreamy and reminds me a little of a some of the stuff that goes in the wicker man like it's he's he's pretty distinctive in that movie industry that when i saw that too yeah oh i highly advise at for a wide variety of reasons but it's a distinctive role and he's really not the star of that movie like it's it's an ensemble and he's a minor side part of it and i think whenever you get something like that you can you could have kiana reeves and the gift like playing a character that's completely against his type and playing it's so much better than he plays his actual type you know you could have a a tom cruise in tropic thunder are doing something weird and fun and i think movie stars to degree that we have movie stars there austin at their most fun when they're doing the thing is the thing that made the movie stars after do over and over again they're casually that's true but yeah just a ton of is a difference to me between a movie star in the actor is a meaningful distinction then you you could be both i guess but then a bucket national lax movie stars it might be i mean is that fundamentally is it v actors or is it just the structure of the rules there and is it just at the film is much more interested in it do hickey is and it's cetera he says that it would that fairly doesn't help i mean you know not having that strong fish out of water element not having a strong mismatch buddy comedy elements that were present in the first movie that's very harmful to the film is well because you're talking about a chemistry thing here in a comic tension that doesn't regrouped i'll tell you one of my favorite sequences scenes i guess just scenes and men in black is when km jay talking about like whether jazz actually gonna join the men in black and tommy lee jones is just like i'll you know i'll give you data think it over and he walks away and were just left with will smith sitting on a bench as as the day goes on in the sun goes down and he's just thinking it through and that film is so lean but we know nothing about his life we know nothing about his family we we have no idea what he's giving up but you feel the weight of his decision because of the way the film treats that scene because of that montage of him just sitting in one place and thinking it over and i don't feel like there's anything in in men in black international or maybe as they call it they let's spend that kind of time with the character's as though their individual decisions were important as though you're supposed to care about how they feel or you're you're supposed to care about the decisions they're making there's no sense of personal difficulty in maybe that has an impact on that level and it's such a strange moment of impact again because we have no idea what he's giving up we don't know what's going through his it's mind we just know he's trying to make a decision but again there's something soulful that will smith does which i like much better in films where he gives you a diversity of emotions rather the films where he's trying to be sold over two hours straight so i but yeah that that sequence i think that's a we care about what the movie star thanks kind of sequence that you don't get in the new one i guess just talking about the humor in in these films and and so much of the success of the first one in black confirm a screenplay the just doesn't let up in his trips alive has like these running gags i love tommy lee jones needling will smith throughout you know fearing peanuts characters memory getting a race is is is a fun running gotta lose its tightly put together a chemistry goes a long way and it's just so find this watch smith and jones interact with one another and so many black international gigi none of that in in and i think it is a victim of while apparently also the original minute black was also heavily rewritten but you kind of it kind of feels like a movie that's being rewritten written day by day there's not a lot pushing along there's not a lot of sense of who these characters are even as individuals much less who they are as a team i i didn't laugh on johnny at a couple of funny lines as party and that was kind of information you know one of the things like kinda hit when i was reading my review of men in black international is it is just achingly sincere in the character so sincere about what they do and what they care about and one of the things that's fun about men in black is what comes across isn't sincerity or dedication it's exasperate nation like tommy lee jones is exasperated with this job in these aliens they keep making it harder will smith is exasperated with the way everybody in the group keeps her writing him a rip torn is exasperated with this this rookie who keeps making mistakes and it's just annoying vincent enough rio's exasperated with the entire human race and just on and on and on all the way down a you know tony have been aspirated with a factor keeps getting his head blows up giving crossing exasperated because he's david cross everybody is just like so frustrated annoyed by the state of the world in this film and it gives it a kind of peevish quality a really hilarious end you contrast that with the tone of the new movie which is just i would like to help fight aliens you should help play daily like it just there's just self seriousness to it it just is kind cami yeah kinda wanna bring something up the release a little bit to the last topic a movie stars but also to this which is a in that article that you mentioned in the last episode by rachel handler vulture talking incident operate found buried sonnenfeld a seinfeld like briefly mentioned like way back in the early stages of men in black it like someone wanted to start chris o'donnell an clint eastwood an i think like we when we saw that we all kind of laughed at the chris o'donnell of it but a in i laughed at the clint eastwood of it but it seems like maybe a someone at this table thought otherwise but i i just can't imagine clint eastwood having any of the humor the tommy lee jones has in this performance and it's such like he definitely has like the grizzle you know old heimer thing down but there's such sort of sardonic humorous quality to tommy lee jones in general end especially in this movie that i can't imagine going eastwood delivering like maybe my favorite moment in men in black is it's so tiny it's after they hit the red button on the upside down in the tunnel an elvis is playing time and they just kinda singing along to it and there's this one moment where he gets like this little head bible you know like he's like ruben with the music and the tears hanging down 'cause he's upside down into the little bottle and it's so perfect it makes me laugh every time and i'm like dude i just like the whole time clint eastwood it's been a long time i think since clint eastwood has let himself be funny and maybe that's the dignity of age and maybe it's you know his a conservative just like really wanting to be serious about the world in the state of it you know 'cause he's he's making these films that he sees is very important about a things going on in the world but you look back to his early career in the stuff like a any which way you can in every which way but loose like he was funny in those movies in a pretty i like hip shot effortless way that might be a little him source he like he did that must have comedy chops yeah but that was way before ninety nineteen ninety seven like i think like what's he doing anything even remotely comedic in ninety seven no but neither was it's been such an offer which we previously established i mean it's i think if you if you have those instincts if you have those chops like reef finding them is more possible than creating if you've never had them at all i i tell you wanna see exasperated claire mccaskill you know for us i still i think it'd be i'd be curious to see if you'd be good i mean he is and tony jones there are different actors but i can't see clint eastwood being in that movie me funny 'cause he can be funny 'cause he has that just kind of deadpan quality and he also has a way of his disrespectfully young makes could make for some funny moments even movies that are a little more serious they're different actors but you know what they share their bill space cowboys yeah yeah that's a very funny so there's like a there's a good old older clint eastwood performance is funny but chris o'donnell but it just murders is over we would not be able to stop the men in black is o'donnell has absolutely zero starpower at the film would've just completely died if he was a star it's just drop harbor for a while they were they really tried they tried i think i think probably try to make fetch happen he's on his ass and entire show which seems does in the zone you know so funny all these actors like we're like where are they now and it's like oh they're just absolute fortune shows of you don't just you know i part of the v appeal of of will smith and this movie being funny is i i feel like this is one of the early films from me where i i felt like i saw code switching inaction in starting to understand what that was that line when he first lands on the double decker bus and he's like oh it'd be raining black men died in new york city a which was apparently an improv line and he goes in and out of that kind of language throughout the film depending on what kind of impression he's trying to make it's not like he's code switching back and forth between like being around his family or like being around like in his neighborhood people he's comfortable if versus being around a bunch of like uptight tight uptown white folks he's really just kind of doing it in his own head it's like whatever he feels is the most comfortable motive self expression for the moment a he any changes back and forth and how he does language but he often falls into that like more i like ghetto form of expression when he's saying stuff that he knows is hilarious he he kind of reaches for that mode when he's being funny and it did like it really works and you know while were kind of talking about you like i could i sound more white as i try to figure out like how i could say this without being maximally offensive like the lose urban conversation is kind of the conversation goes on throughout the entire movie like the topic i'm gonna bring in was just the setting of these two films and how one of and takes place in a very funky new york like a new york full of pawn shops in new york where an alien ambassador in his bodyguard a hanging out at a deli where nobody batson i at them talking this weird foreign language pretty loudly up because of the kind of place where probably everybody is talking a different language you have the settings very janki in crowded and full of cabs which gives us a great visual joke of will smith chasing a cab and walking out into you know flotilla of new york city cabs and then in men in black international you have a bunch of digital spaces and generic spaces like you keep coming back to the eiffel tower but harrison significant as a part of paris is just significant as a a big shiny thing stand on while you're fighting aliens voting through a wormhole it's like a wormhole the hive open i yeah but what i'm saying is it's not a part of a city it's not a part of our yang it's not a part of a culture there's no sense of location in men in black international even though we keep moving from location to location into the surrounding culture they get there and it's like well here's the set the represents the city i mean you know that's what movies do but there is like no sense of there is actually international story in anyway yeah i mean it would have been like the first then by having having a big scene at the empire state building it's like man you know that's not really all that exciting like in what yeah whereas whereas you know the first minute black does seek out these interesting flavor fall new york space is first of this land in april tower ministers generic as the cats and it really does it really does kind of it is really interesting contrast between those those two movies especially again if the emphasis is supposed to be on men in black international why don't you give us something new about the places that it's going some find her own version of a funky paris to set set something or or funky merit cash i think is in this movie to in don't just give us everything we've seen before yeah and you know mira cash is a market and one garage where there's a guy with an alien beard some work in paris fearful towers like that's all there is to it i just i feel like one of the things that makes men in black charming is again going back to that idea of immigration you have a place that's very densely packed with people they're very widely diverse a in a sense of kind of everybody maybe a little hostile to each other everybody may be very different but everybody also like doing their own thing chasing their hustle fee international world of mad like international scene is just much less crowded and much less specific and flavorful an interesting well if you want flavorful interesting the original men in black available and online yeah the usual double digit rental sites a minute black international is currently in theaters will be right back with your next picture show i finally attend the catch each other up on films are familiar items we've seen an entrance into our last podcast we call it your next picture show and hopes it'll put some interesting choices on your radar tasha what in the world has been good for you anyway you know i was gonna do something else but i threatened to do laughs at auction on i'm gonna have to do less reduction last election is one of my favorite all time movies that's a nineteen ninety four john doe new are neo new are that i think is the film what they should teach in school when people ask what neo and why is as i john ra it's visually a very very indebted classic wars it's emotionally intended the classic but way more daring in a modern sort of way a little if you're in you know stars as a woman who in the very beginning scenes is scheming to leave her husband play by bill pullman end steal all of his money and start a new life elsewhere a she does and then there are complications and it's got it's so tightly written it so well acted and it's such a small in specific movie you realize really heavily on fear and he knows ability to and in her own sort of way could switch between character's her ability to play whatever a scene requires a take on these persona is like shia especially plays sociopathic con woman kind of person who can walk walk into a situation eyeball it decide what it needs a in order to manipulate the people around her into doing what she wants and then she does it end it's it's just like whip crack fast these degree to which she changed tactics in changes persona is to deal with whatever whatever situation she's facing as eighty more it's just it's one of my favorites because it's so tight end it's so mean in so many ways as aid it's just like a starring vehicle for a woman it was just one of the early films that i was like why isn't there more like this out there so the last election is pretty widely available and subscription services it's also if you haven't already be an amazon prime member it's it's a free on that so as a good now and i wanna just like go check it out again many times but i love it i mean it's pure tino is just you know the thing is like she's playing fm fe talbot were used to pay pal being a secondary secondary character of being the person who's gonna kind of like screw over are are here our attempt to screw him over for her to actually be out front creates a much different dynamic right in the way she's able to use her sexuality unused what men expect expect from her in one from her and just manipulate them and just in the destroy them in in what she wants so funny in sharp and 'em gotta know very good john dollars a very good stylistically he'd he'd done red rock west year before that was kind of his big breakthrough but i think the last election is him at his absolute peak i thought it was a very glad you brought it up as a wonderful movie yeah created red rock west is tremendous and he's done some strong sense like only really really loves working in this genre that last election it just doesn't get any better than that i recommend nor of sorts is not a good movie guys i talked about a lot of stuff but it's it's just kind of entertaining were not really in the so bad it's good business very in here but i'm gonna recommend one anyway this is a film called serenity that came out in january if you didn't notice because the company behind it that kind of didn't advertise it it is written and directed by steven now who's a very talented writer hatred in such films as a dirty pretty things eastern promises he wrote and directed lock that movie where tom hardy drives running a car which is good he wrote a ally in a movie i liked robertson meccas some at this is an ambitious film that doesn't it it just doesn't work on any level to hilarious effect and i can't even tell you everything about it without spoiling it which i refuse to do but there's been this way it starts out as a new or a sort of a sun drenched nor a set in the tropics a stray matthew mcconaughey as a as a tortured fishermen on a beach bum no i think he's more of a beach from in the film film where he's the beach from i can't remember the name andre cat yeah talking get there you go a but but anyway a bigger deal could tell you that much download the cast is an hathaway diane lane sherman who msu and jason clark and what a cast there's a lot of fishing there's a lot of other stuff in it i don't know i i don't wanna say too much more but if you are in the in the market for so bad it's good movie a an or wanna see matthew mcconaughey but a lot this is a film preview serenity rent now from from me literally no reason you know you're that's a every you know everybody's beautiful someone that's dancer generally how about you for those of you who don't know i have been moving to a new state for the several weeks which hasn't left a whole lot of time or movie watching so i wanna recommend something that i've saw while ago but i don't think we've ever talked about on this podcast and it's inspired by the presence of twins in men in black international i want to recommend another film in which they briefly appeared in that is home coming up dome by fiance this concert film version of her instantly legendary twenty eighteen coach all her performances drop on netflix a couple of months back so i think it's pretty likely that anyone who is already intrigued by this movie has seen it but i'm gonna use opportunity to eight hopefully discuss it with all of you be urge anyone who may think it isn't for them or who eroneous lee believes but they're not beyond say fan to check it out i think homecoming easily stands among some of the best concert films ever made an admittedly a big part of that is attributable to the concept fiance imagine for these two performances which are in extended masha historically black colleges and universities and dry extensively on touch points hp you culture like marching band and drumline black fraternities and sororities an step a obviously beyond say herself is unquestionably the stark here and she presides over the stage like the queen she is a but beyond say backed by a full marching band and step dancers in baton twirler is some next level spectacle that everyone deserves to experience but all those already apparent from the coach of the footage leaked in the days after the performance last summer so the question is what homecoming offers is different from that straight ahead concert footage into that i say so so much there is some behind the scenes footage that's mildly interesting but really too heavily image control to be a specially eliminating but that same expert grasp of image control the beyond say has which divine so much of her career comes through his specially totally innocent metaverse being editing of this film which merges the to suffer performances into one long concert but interestingly doesn't try to cover up the scene a and you could tell because the color schemes are different for each night at the performance the first night it's yellow in a second what's pink a in the film switch back and forth between footage of the two in a way that becomes i think really hypnotic and impressive in underscores the amount of positioning control interest performance the pulsing ever under every moment of this thing so even if you're lukewarm on beyond say's music there's so much happening here in terms of visual spectacle in filmmaking pilots that i think it's definitely worth of first watch if you missed it or it second or third or fourth if you have seen it aside sitting there on netflix just waiting for you i really have been wanting to see it i've seen it in bits and pieces but one thing that you just brought up but i think his point is that is that when we think about the greatest concert films of all time films like stop making sense or the last waltz a we think of them as the thinking of them as a bunch kasese from jonathan demme he fell by artists conceit matters so much in how good a concert film could be a v you know something he senses so much shake collaboration between david byrne and jonathan demme in in the last waltz his soul is such an extraordinary event of which of course says he was tremendously prepared the film but did not produce some of those something the the robbie robertson the band kind of in their people sort of assembled all it matters and so so so creates kind of an interesting dynamic between the performers in the filmmakers yeah i mean fiance is credited as the like director writer producer of it i think she had a co director at burke but i mean it is entirely her vision you know not just the performance but as i said the way it is presented on film like she's matori asli adopt controlling her image and i think this film is a very good example of that in a positive sense they had have none of you seen it serious no i won't see it so so it's a sitting on netflix thing that's me later yeah i know i mean remember watching now i'm personally offended you have to watch now all right can i just watched lemonade is done a lot shorter i mean it's entirely different experience and lemonade i mean it but it kind of has the same sort of control and i'm talking about this lemonade you know like there is such a strong concept behind it from the very first strain and it's so thought out and nothing happens accidentally in lemonade and nothing happens accidentally in homecoming oh i see eliminated another problem is that you know when you're a netflix you could just watch the brass brass brothers again recently and i don't know i'm a little horrified i pulled up netflix and search tom coming to sort of reminds me a to watch it later and like everything else it's recommending to me like everything it thinks that i wanna watch because i wanna watch homecoming it's like being boji movie and peter rabid woody woodpecker hotel for dog why do i have enough underpants it's like it very clearly thinks if you wanna watch him coming you are a small child to like dumb animated hot oh i'm only one of those things and i like a company that's on america amazon prime is well julia roberts yeah we an spiderman homecoming there's a lot of homes in chase antoni yes credible basically just homecoming or family scott what about you okay so i i recently i've been doing a lot of bingewatching lately i binged ton of each rio series for this hp oh ranked elicited from vulture no murray i binged a ton of scorsese documentaries first grizzly documentary positive for the ringer nfl the washington post i just binged all seven child's play movies it'll be eight when i see the see the new one tomorrow but but i wanna talk about that experience a little bit because i think of the of what's interesting about the child's play movies is that one there's a single driving force find all the and that's that's the creator dominancy any which is unique in two they change with v era with each air the first three child spy movies are part of the slasher era in in kind of reflect select reflect those conventions and then the next one's me the nineties bride of chucky in cedar chucky are films that are a very much and he posts scream you met a comedy you know mode very different films and then they two films after that which were straight video they have their own quality to almost like a haunted house quality as well and kind of go back a little bit more to to what these first three were doing but of the of the seven i released strongly recommend the people check out those two in the middle right of chucky in cedar chucky which are really funny in they in strange andy a stylish and also i think maybe be the only first like true lgbt or i mean this is these are films that that are about a they bring in jennifer tilly these two films this is tiffany who is he a chucky cheese chucky win chucky was charles we re had a girlfriend a in the tiffany is gender gender chilly and a tilly is cast because of her her role in bound so she's very much in that kind of mode so it's got that going for but then it just has all of these interesting subversive elements i mean there's a there's a point i think in the seat of chucky were were john waters shows up there's they gender non conforming doll who's like newsy seed of chucky in seat of chucky a who's who they who is assigned is glenn and becomes glenda later in the movie in in a reference to the famous movie ends up these maybe they're just they're very quirky they have they they found this true colt appreciation an m i dunno it just i was surprised in kind of enchanted by this whole which is really a reflection of very very strong clear and yet versa tile vision 'em the by its creator dominancy who unfortunately was completely cut out of the new film entirely like no they they they would not let him have any input on it so you have this very strange situation where he is still making chucky entertainment and he the the cult of chucky which is his last movie is made in two thousand seventeen in the end he's working on ebay chucky tv show for our size fi but this movie which is kind of a reboot has nothing to do with him which is kind of sad to me because he i think he's shown an ability throughout the years to kind of adjust this character in this idea of for a range of different you know a cultural scenario so child's life take take the journey they're all you know those films or two to four ninety minutes most summer or right at ninety minutes it's got a few questions okay go one is how it's called the chucky since it's only one of these available on netflix oh it's gotta be it's you know it's i i would i would i think it's doesn't really as a standalone i wouldn't necessarily recommend it because it kind of ties in pretty closely the curse of chucky which is the one that comes before and introduces a m a c important new character played by fiona a door who is brad doris a daughter and brad door is the voice of chucky so this is very much a family affair there's a lot of actors of bread dorf jeffer chillier fiona dorf who is in the producer they've all they've stayed with the movie offer these movies with for for for a long time and it's almost got kind of a kind of a family feel to it second question is how were these movies on your the love at violence like inane gory they stylish what did they do i mean they're they're they're gory in stylish a male take any more so than these films of their era i mean i think i i would say they're less less gross then a lot of slasher movies but they but they have they have their share of blood and chuck he's very resourceful chucky somebody just like it's a doll eating this kick them right kick armor formal card i mean is it the but but you can't but but he's also he's he's surprisingly strong and he's he's clever and he's spry and he's he's very elusive and you can't you can't kill him i mean here's a guy who like put his soul into adult you know i mean this is not gonna be easy in easy guidances kill you can't do it yet again right in the right in the heart and even when you do that i mean little little chucky parts will still kind of come after you so a don't underestimate him he's he's resilient he's been around for thirty years he's been thirty years worth of chucky movie so a child's play seem all night would be totally great easier time but it really if you if you really just have to see a couple i but i should maybe recommend seeing the first child's play which is which is solid and then skipping the next to which i to me the weakest of the of the of all the and then going right to the brightest chucky in in cedar chucky which do you have any strong a following among lgbt fan horror fans for reason and i think it's i do a lot of fun to be in that position the next picture show are desperate episodes will come out on july ninth in july sixteenth scott what's coming up next martin scorsese is new netflix documentary tree rolling thunder review takes advantage of bob dylan's trickster image by winning fact and fiction in its treatment of dylan's famous mid seventies concert tour through smaller venues across america in scorsese film electrifying footage of doing it infringe on stage is given phony significance by stories and talking hit testimonials are entirely on the level next picture show listener named enrico wrote in suggesting that we pair rolling thunder review with silver gold mine todd haynes tribute to the glam rock movement as and rico notes both films are about artist is myth makers and storytellers both films about trying to balance artistic expression with commercial interest in both films feature thrilling performance footage suffer next pairing were gonna take up rico suggestion dive into the elusive trues of scorsese ian hanes factbased fiction in the meantime we'd love to hear your feedback on this week discussion of all the men in black anything else you'd like to talk about we wanna good you're thoughts it's on future episodes of the show you leave a short voicemail at seven seven three two three four nine seven three zero or email us at comments at next picture show dot net we may push response on states but for discussion are we doing a future episode of the show finally closing out this week's episode where can we find everyone these days got a you could find me on twitter at scott underscore tobias you could find my worth in new york times washington post which is where my wrote about child's 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Double tha Kornerz (Gullah Geechee Nation/People, Voter Fraud, American Conspiracies, Teen Vogue)

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Double tha Kornerz (Gullah Geechee Nation/People, Voter Fraud, American Conspiracies, Teen Vogue)

"Welcome to minority coroner with an gay and James. The wonder twins, Apolo casting, learn laugh play. It's like blues clues. Only. It's more black queer and lady lies. This week on minority corner. What do we have? Cook it on episode one, forty, seven. I am going to be talking about the Gullick Ichi people of the southeast coast, Lagos island, kind of not not really. Oh, okay. I'm going to be piggybacking off of our competition from last week's quiz. Lint is I'm going to be talking about voter fraud conspiracy rule. And it's not the conspiracy of you think it is happening and how in this nation, historically effect, black people, man uplift you. But before that I wanna talk to you about Halloween costumes coming, got some marvel news for you. Sorry, our favorite one of our favorite actresses and the world, I'll say, wonder who that is. Good. It be. And also I went to my first bar mitzvah have intimate. I'm to tell you, cool. We'll get into it. And that k. You got your costume ready? No. Okay. Well, I, I have some ideas for you. I was on the internet and you know the internet is full of good ideas. Quest gray, all like if it's on the internet for one, if there's anything I've learned on my years of being on the internet and through it as internet processor, everything on there is true and everything on their as good. So do this because I can't even go along with that because my credit is going to go down the toilet. If okay, you don't have to cosign on this. It's okay. We can agree to disagree, maybe. Go agree. We'll start again, not even a minute and agreeing to disagree already, and you better agree with me. This better be you. And that I'm allowed to have my own expectations. I, we thinking American and actor right now. 'cause you're convincing me. I have the perfect Halloween costume for you. So everything needs to be sexy. If you're a lady, it needs to be sexy. I don't care what it is. A watermelon sexy, a high heel sexy, and they have the handmaiden sexy. But no, like I mean, like you are a high heel, you know? Yeah, it's like she's. Sexy, he'll she's a sexy doughnut own. So they have the handmaiden sale, but sexy here, which is you. Yes, I'm not as bad as some people are about this. I go. Why? Why? I think I know what you're going to let you take the reins go for it. I more mad at sexy, racist cost. Thank you. I know. Yeah, like the yes congenital. I'm a sexy name, not on a sexy, an Indian. We're a sexy priestess? Yeah. I'm a sexy black face, like I'm not into that. And so there is yet. I think it's called the Andy. So Andy is one of the biggest Brown. It's one of the biggest perpetrators of -fensive Halloween costumes, and they came out with like the sexy handmaiden costume, which is ridiculous because it as it's like the feats, the purpose of like that show and the costume like what does, but at least it's a fictional character like sobre ladies upset about this. Well, there's still a sexy headdress costume on the website late. Yeah. Why aren't you mad about this? Other thing of actual people like, oh, agrees don't exist in the bay tall, but you know what it is. You know what it is, because when affects what hand me and Sal, I'm going to say it's mostly it's a lot about a white ladies and how things are affecting white women. And so it's that vastly affects white women. And so that's when everyone goes to the front lines and takes charge and does stuff, and they. Got this or the, they everyone's anger. Well, good job, good time. Everybody because he hates any took down the costumes, but guess what? Guess what still up the sexy, polka, polka Honda's native American costume. The sexy voted one and no one's saying nothing and so that. Right? That's that's annoying that annoy you slept there for years as those offensive costumes sat there and you were like, well, that's probably wore ED's. And then when a fictional character that like affects because it's too close to home for you like this could happen to me. Now they'd have to make me have babies like don't even care about a sexy, handmade in caution. Honestly, like, ooh, that's bad taste, but it's not bad taste in the form of I'm gonna. Take your culture make us and you know all saps to, we might link us on the show, but all the snaps alike and you you, I didn't believe you when you gave them stops earlier. I was like, okay, all right. Snap to to teen vogue, they did a video, Michael. I know I should believe you, you know what you're talking. You got your major. You right, you right? I know what I'm one of those men. It just took me a few times to really learn in here. So. But they did a video call. Mike culture is not a costume and whoever's reading teen vogue like this is and this is like, but this is a new thing because I feel like teen vogue when I was a teen was not doing this well, yeah, because teen vogue was taken over recently. I forget, but at one point, this woman Elaine Wentworth I think her name is. She was editor in chief and she made it Hella hip. She was a black woman also. Well, there you go. Look, what happens when you get sometimes the on their believe it or not. She left though, but they're still doing things to keep a real. Does she set the rails? She's like, this is what we do now, and I bet you her being there. I don't know the numbers, but I'm just gonna assume that she was bringing in diverse groups of people, which means that show people on their wanna, have diverse conversations that are affecting them. You have more of a round table discussion, those people already there. So that's what happened to you. Start making those moves that it's beautiful that she can leave and it didn't fall apart. Exactly. I, I'm very impressed with team vogue. They're doing some really cutting edge reporting because they did the interview with the they, they got the Joe Biden interview with them. That's the one that I gave the snaps to because he and he was talking about like women's sexual assault. Yeah. LT invoked got the scoop that Bala JR. Is he apologize. I don't know fascinates the spread. I know how how, how. How to get some. If you're hot or not ten tips for hot nail polishes I think that's cosmopolitan at least I will give them. I won't side. I then that harshly beyond say on there and they lead beyond say, take control of the September issue cover. They had the first African American photographer. He's twenty three. Oh yes. Sad for twenty eighteen. But I mean, yeah. Yeah. How many? I that we are living through in our lifetime. Very, no. I hope that you and I are the end of the air of, I like. Generated where the last, the generation the last I that's what we are. I like that. What the hell Jesus. Oh, and there is a hashtag cancel Yankee that's running around because. This is the biggest perpetrator of the cultural preparation Bullshits yet you make your own costumes. Let's bring it completely. I don't wanna see those sexy mammy costume this year. Jemima this year, you know who you are and what's cerebral. There are people out there who are buying these costumes because that's the them you so many people fucking are like, I'm a sexy geisha like knows. Yeah, like I don't think so. Stop here. Stop your stuff right now. Stop it. About other black women isn't there some avengers news, marvel news going on. I got a scoop scoops gimmes for Hugh scooping poop, scoop scoop. Look amid segment song just for you. Thank you. I was perusing the interwebs from some very factual news sources and guess who was spotted well there. She was already rumored to have been spotted on this like a shooting for ventures back in two thousand seventeen and the results are happening right now in Atlanta, and she was traveling with Chris Hemsworth. I'm talking about Tessa Thompson. Yes. She was traveled signs point back to test at Thomson all signs like women's out just. It's Thompson when wins out, get yourself to the nearest Tessa. Thompson reference movie, show article, Twitter, whatever. 'cause she doesn't care. So you know the the subtext of this story that I'm really excited about is that I had no idea that her and Chris Hemsworth are filming men in black, a reboot, right? Yes. Yeah, that so many amazing things that are in this little story is just so it's like a, what's not a Pandora's box? What's the thing where you keep opening it up and there's more gifts this little Russian dolls? Yeah, Russian nesting doll. This is a Russian nesting doll of a story. Yes, because one, we're getting some Valkyrie and some vendors to we're getting the team up of Chris Hemsworth and tested Thompson again, which I hope to love that lake. You know. So often you get like these dudes to keep being paired up for movies or if it was a a woman. And a guy it's optimally Manta comedy, like do do, oh, they're like right action. Star is being cleared up. Again, there have amazing chemistry. You know, I love a duo, female male action. Comedy do a leg that we don't get that. We don't hear the are breaking like the different genres doing something different. So she was. You. A picture of them leaving from London. I feel like Wendy Williams because we're giving like the scoop the play by play school is what happened was. They was in the plane and in London, and then they landed in Atlanta, and you know what shoots in Atlanta. Rest. My little chicken dis Valkyrie alive and kicking, and we see interest for it. Well, receipts re-shoots. Because then they look at the movie and they're like, oh God, this is terrible. This is fans broke. Wick was broke down. Oh, great. The copy boys running around in the background dammit damage Joseph. Yes, they have to his Joseph, fucked it up, but I'm also the fan outrage was insane. So I'm sure they were like, okay, whether it was planned or not, they're like, we got to put more Val Korean at some. I mean, come on, how can you wrong with Tessa? Thompson? She blew up she? Yup, Yup. Car. It's like literally, it's like either they get her or Zoe. Kravitz Zoe. Kravitz just signed on to do. A TV show. I forget what she did. I saw that too high fidelity. I've as the TV shows. All right. And as it's going to be on the interesting network, it's like on, it's not like it's a weird thing. Yeah, Facebook net. There's like there is a, there's like Facebook TV now, Elizabeth Olsen just released a movie on Facebook. Yelich what how do I, I, I got a chuckle of that because like Facebook is what I used to use, the stock my act right crushes in college. Let me watch this high prestige movie on here. I just I, I can't wait till we'll look back thirty years from now. Just see because like I feel like TV is it's mutating changing. Everyone's trying to get a little bit of something like I like YouTube getting their thing like there's just so many different platforms, so we don't know what it's all. Oh, and then there's a giant mergers that are happening. I think what is Comcast just by sky one, which is like the British, like one of their huge networks over there. And so a lot of so now you're getting like a global thing. We're all these global. These networks are trying to globally joint forces because they're trying to compete with Netflix, isn't that flex is a global needs to go before, so so changing. We'll just have to watch and keep an eye out. Hopefully, you know, everything stays relatively low in cost for those of us out here. Yeah, because like I think all the goddamn subscriptions, it's like magazines because you know what they're going to start having to do the bundle. So then you're going to go back to. Bundling in that flexing, your Hulu in your. New fucking Star Trek, but it's on CBS says unlike CBS accident or not. Tricking me CBS I turn my nose up to CBS, but you know what. I, I wonder about this or soup that I wanna make about CBS I, I've a tube spent CBS versus about CBS access because Mark cherry, he has a new coming out on CBS access and he did cherry, you know, Mark cherry. He did does housewives. He's the creator, desperate, housewives. Okay. And the creator of the maids we'll before we're getting. This is like, I don't know Mark, Jerry. Why we talk about he was in the show notes, outline. I said, girl, you'll know him. Okay. So he has a new show. And at first I was my interest Pete because I was I was I was piqued because I did enjoy desperate housewives to our great. I mean, I liked it, but then the honest, he allegedly was abusive to like Nicole Sheridan. Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't like that. And so that's what she got killed off at the last minute. He has a new so called why women kill. And I had like, ooh, is going to be an interesting like, look at two women don't really commit a lot of murderers, and we're going to really salmon why women are killing. And so here's the description so it it spans three different decades, a house, my sixties, a social. And a lawyer in two thousand eighteen each dealing infidelity and their own marriage, his and then it goes on how the rules of women have ch. The show tracks how the roles of women's have changed, but how the reactions betrayal has not. Bullshit. I wanted to bring this up because I, it's made me so mad because cherry is one of those old. He's white gay man, and it's sort of the idea. I feel like he just tells us like fan his a lot of his shows these women, and it's sort of like, like, you know, when like who created sex in the city, dear star, and yet dare and like same thing with the golden girls were you had like these sort of coded like you'd have these gay writers who they couldn't just right there, like gay characters, they wrote women. Sensually us their gave friends. So that's why gay men loved these shows because these are women who essentially just talk gatemen I don't. I mean, we're at a point now where we can have shows about gay men. We showed anything any why gay men kill just do that or something and it sort of. And then it makes me mad because it's like dress up and it's his fantasy, especially this one really irks me because one thing doing housewives, right? But this one really irks me because it's this fantasy about like, ooh, women who are trying to get back their lovers, and it makes me so mad because that's not why women kill, and you have a show called while we've been Cal Sicily women, they're not homicide all maniacs it. It's not there. And what I learned took Angela Davis classrooms looking for article and some numbers to back this up. But I remember learning us in college that statistically when women kill, it's the tent, it tends to be their abuser. Abused from childhood abuser from their marriage. They killed their husbands, dungeon sang to be like, I, I'm gonna get you. It does happen, but that's not. Yeah, that put them even tire show about it. Just made me mad. I don't like the tagline. That's what really irks me is kind of pigeonholing women where it's like you can even be a high powered lawyer, but you're just as base as that house y. You know, when it's like come on all jobs that women have a respectable. If you're a housewife to a lawyer, like it's popey I like a pope, but I post in a gender stereotype like that. Like we could get beyond that now. And I was reading this article at least in Australia. Men typically kill for jealous reasons more than women. So interesting. So it should have been why men kill? Yeah. Well, that and but that's a show I don't want. It's. American horror story says, don't you see? You are aware, okay, I'm in. Oh, I will have, you know, in that game, you know you're in training. Wondering my new genes that I bought that you saw on Instagram, okayed hot of your genes like the very smidgen crispy, little top of your genes. What are you talking about? I full torso picture that you don't out your thirst trap hunting not are being thrown at me on air as we are. Linda tripping, the records already Haley your that. You. I took a harmless photos. Everybody. I bought new jeans because I am a defense motivator bar mitzvahs. It is that consist of you get you get everybody on the dance floor. You motivate too. Tiffany had asked apparently had the same job to you. I wish you loved it and look at her now, but she's backing it too much into the teen. So you gotta watch out for this. I had to buy all new black clothings. I went to, you know, each of them and I bought some new jeans and I took the lighting looks really good in the dressing room. And I took this photo of me wearing jeans shot. I put in on Instagram and truth be told you can't really see any of the genes. Torso and I'm like, hey, everybody. Look, I bought new jeans. They look cute. You used to be an old man about Instagram, and now by favorite is just the responses of people being like, almond can't release the genes. Lets people I dunno, gonna side. I those people right now because it's like, do you not know a joke. And that's like the big. Then someone didn't go back and respond and be like, oh, then I read. One guy was like, then I read your hash tags. It was like, oh, you're just trying to look like a snack for everybody. Know Shay, you have lay very leg obvious friends. I know. I strap when she sees one. I I could sniff out at Thursday up. I mean, it's not very hard to sniff out there strat that's true. It's like, ooh, this looks thirsty on draft. One of my favorite comments was branded genes are those? There's thirsty thirsty. Yeah, that's good. Goodbye had my bar mitzvah. I, you've never forget your first bar mitzvah. The New York permits was are crazy. I thought they would have been like, it's it's, it's crazy that it's crazy. That's all I can say and become an adult, a man or a woman depend. I'm like, he's still a kid, but. Okay. All right. Oh my gosh. And they're just like all children. They're just kids and they have all their phones and there. It's just. I know, but also have fun. Can you imagine if you were like this was the best time of my life and it'd be like, what's wrong with the, you're in your thirties. I do better with the adults trying to get them to dance than I do with the teens. Are. Oh, that makes sense. That makes he'll still creepy if you're like, I had the best time. I made friends with little Bobby. And then I thought about my lot latest photo is like, sorry, little Bobby, not getting my Instagram, not doing it. Apparently the right instinct, James, your their job and you did your job? Yeah, and I got paid so, but that lasts half hour just like, oh, my God can use tire dancing and a corner shot, and they had to take away the basketball hoops again and again, because you know, thirteen year old boys there, like we kept losing their basketball privileges. My guy they were, it was nuts and the off owns, and then sometimes I just tried, I would because you have to spend the first half hour doing social hour and you'll try to like talk to them, but like, hey, guys, I thought I was going to show up for you. Don't start dancing. It's like an hour NBA like talk to them and get them. Sounds like my nightmare. I thought they were going to see me a young hip guy and be like, we want to talk to him and like fate did not. Jay is like. Yeah, it's like, why is this guy here? So then you just gotta like gaslight him and be like, who's got the coolest latest phone and then you're. That's the problem. That's one of the things that I've noticed that once you, you're in your thirties, you stop your veneer of cools wearing certain age groups, like you're probably still cool to like a nineteen year old yet, like you'll get by with that. But yeah, I would say fifteen down, no man, damn. They just see me as like eighty years old. It's weird. Oh gosh. But then in reverse fifty and up your might as well be in diapers. Yeah, they're like, oh, so when are you dying? I picked out your coffin yet grandpa. Yeah, so more to come as I do these parties more developments in that, so I will be. I mean, it sounds like fascinating. Well, so we get to the main event of Molly. My corner where we're gonna be talking about the goal ag- each Ichi people. Hey, you with the headphones just between you and me the mess funds store. Just got some of that. Sweet sweet new merchant stock. You know that much from your favorite max fun shows could be posters, tote bags, shirts, stickers, patches, aprons. We got it all. Well, we got a lot point is there's new stuff, good, imacs funds, store dot com. A neck as corner. Neck gay Queen of my life. Wow. That's I, I know. I couldn't. You know. You know, I stopped in the middle of the song. Notice. I usually just propose to you. My mom. How about a neck as corner. Kay's corner of the queens of my life. She's a Queen in my life. Response. Queens, your McQueen. She's the Queen were all queens, but a neck as also one. I like that a corner. Oh, it's still going. Yeah, now it's done. Okay. So after that lovely, lovely intro. This I wanna talk about this because we just the east coast has just been beaten up by all these hurricanes and tropical depressions, and tropical storms, and all of that and a lotta times people that you cultures and people and neighborhoods get destroyed that you wouldn't even know about. Like normally people pay attention to the big cities when there's floods and shit happening, but the smaller kind of communities not necessarily. So I was reading color lines dot com as do and out. They were talking about how this one community in on the southeast could be hit hard after the tropical depression of Florence. I think it was hurricane Florence, but then it got demoted down to tropical depression, but still there's a lot of flooding and all of that. So both mother Jones in color lines, are they talk about how black homeowners could in this region? Basically, Jacksonville, North Carolina to Jacksonville, Florida could be hit hard, probably recovering from a lot of flooding damage from the storms, but I've the thing that's fascinating to me is it's actually like it isn't just like a collective people living in an area. It's like a culture really Jackson to Jackson. Yes. And. And they're called the gulag itchy nation still how a? Yeah, sort of examine our own backyard. And I really wanted to look into it because it's really cool because it did sound a little familiar to me and I'm sure this is to you. Do you remember ever hearing about a TV show cook, Gila. Gila Calica island? Yes. In fact, with you every time you've mentioned that I thought you were going to just talk about the history of goggles island. I was here for we. This comes Franken from that. Yeah, with bingo, bingo. I hated Bing Bing wiz at the giant yellow puppet for our, oh, he was always annoying. He just. There's no giant yellow puppet frocks. So they correct because you know, because if there was a cancel, my vacation because I'm not going. But since he's not that an I'll go. Okay. So wait sidebar v. dad in that show. I'm pretty sure is the same dad that's in that. So raven, Siwan see him get work. Okay, good actors, getting jobs, live that I could be wrong, but that's how I remember him. Okay. Well, I decided to look up the gutter go the Gulf Gucci nation in to see when they were about because it's fascinating to me and also I don't think the show gogo island, really. I didn't really watch it. I kinda was too old for it. So I. Ninety four to nineteen ninety eight. But I only did like nine nine hundred eighty six year olds. Ninety eight. I. Two years of calicoes island. It was something else on Nick, junior, the kids annoying us fuck on that show. Using facts about going right, they ask for it. They want this. Oh, just seemed God. Okay. So, but it's not the same dad. Okay. Oh, well, just another black guy. So. Okay. So basically to give just I wanted to inform you guys about the the gullet geeky nation can't go. Go get your getting around. Okay, so I got this information from gulag, itchy nation dot com. The Gullick kitschy nation exists from Jacksonville, North Carolina to Jacksonville, Florida, as you said, Jackson Jackson. That's what it's called. Encompasses all the sea islands in thirty to thirty five miles inland to the Saint John's river. So it is islands. It's like island people. So on these islands, people from numerous African ethnic groups linked with indigenous Americans in created the unique gull language in tradition from which later came Ganci. So the goal Aguigi people have been considered a nation within a nation from the time of chattel enslavement to the United States in the United States until they officially became an internationally recognized nation on July second, two thousand. What's it like? Wait. So how far off the coast or they Jack Jack to Jack o. with their on the land? Okay, I'm confused. So they're in the US I'm sorry. I'm Patrick a roofing. This. This. 'cause I'm sorry, I, I want to ask questions. There's such thing teacher teacher. They're not there on the physical land of the United States of America. Yes. But I mean. Jackson are part of American coastal line. Oh, but isn't island the? So there's various, so. Okay what it is so from. So think of a map in you locate where Jacksonville, North Carolina's which is on the coast to Johnson Ville Florida, which is also on the coast in a guy in it encompasses all the little islands that are in their region. Okay. And also thirty five miles inland. Okay. But all right lanes are that's America. Okay. The US. Yeah. You're currently on an island that's the United States. I am. Yeah. On exotic. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's okay that I just, you know, I guess I guess I didn't think that there were islands, but like Alec your your while you grew up on an island to that was. Okay, very interesting. Yeah. Okay, I got it. So it's like little American in which kind of makes it sound not as exotic, but you get what little American island. I just feel like if I were to go pack my bags and vacation there, I would be disappointed like maybe. Nice. A lot of the islands off of America are pretty tropical like key west. Okay. Plays a really nice title island off of Georgia around savannah. George is really nice. Americans are just kept thinking about like Manhattan. I'm like, it is not. That's like, yeah, no child commits happen. Why little beach town? No, not not relaxing. Don't do it not so, but there's I would honestly, I think I think the more people need to take vacations to these little American islands that are off the coast. You know your own little backyard. Oh, yeah, that's there. Yeah. Okay. Forget we are got so many islands. But here's the cool thing even more like because of those islands. Like I love how they became an internationally recognized nation. That's really cool. So kind of like how there's like native American nations. It's the same sort of thing. So there this happened on July second, two thousand at the time of their declaration as a nation. They confirmed the election of their first head pun day boaty, which is the head of state in official spokesperson spokesperson end, oh, you'll love this term Queen Mother. Ooh, yes. I'm here for starring Angela Bassett. It should be. They elected Queen quiet. It's like q. u. e. t. que- Queen Queen. She is cheapest and also the head of state for the league Ichi nation dope, isn't that cool who run the world? She do. Yeah. So they have their own declaration, and their declaration is to preserve protect and promote our history culture, language in homeland, in to institute in demand official recognition of the governance rights necessary to accomplish our mission to take. Care of community through collective efforts, which will provide a healthy environment care for the wellbeing of these person and economic empowerment. They have their own flag in their frigging constitution is twenty one pages long. Yam's they did not come to. They came did not come to play. They're like, we wanna make sure all the rules or start out. So nothing crazy can happen. I wanna read the constitution. I wonder what it says about guns is on Gullick Ichi nation dot com. So you can check it out. Brews. Moved to gullet each a nation that I'm like, fuck, but there I'm still married. Area and you can be an American, but I don't know if they'd recognize you as part of the culture. 'cause I wonder if I take like a citizen test or something. I don't think so. Okay. House in the language. So the Golan language began as a simplified form of communication among people of different languages, including European slave, traders, slave owners in diverse African ethnic groups. The vocabulary and grammatical roots come from European and African languages. Gullick itchy language is the only distinctly distinctly African Creole language in the United States and has influenced traditional southern vocabulary and speech patterns. Oh, then interesting. Yeah, it is the only African Creole language in the United States. So like from African words and stuff, it's like p black people held onto their culture in that area and was able to infuse it with all the other cultures coming in to create the goal Aguigi type of tradition. It feels like a hit. Him American, what conduct I felt like you're telling me what Kanda exists and it's in America's no technology. But they got language. They also got arts crafts and music to you and hear about that. Yes, you know, I love my arts crafts and music. Okay. So the art of making cast for fishing has been passed down by enslaved Africans brought to the southeastern shore of the United States gully kitschy people continue to use the nets to harvest from the sea island waterways. But the tradition is labor intensive in artists are dwindling numbers as younger generations have lost interest. Unfortunately. To their iphones. I have two phones. I seem to you at those bar mitzvahs get off the phones. Sorry, so angry. I know he's a little CU. Okay. And then African textile traditions that include sewing strips of cloth into larger patterns were combined with European quilting methods, and Creole art form emerged quilt with bright colors and designs were originally made for necessity. These traditions also allowed women at time for social interaction. So a lot of a lot of the gulag itchy tradition is very much rooted in some of the African dishes that were brought over here, which I feel like a super special because a lot of African tradition in other parts of the world was completely lost. You know, lay. I don't know anything. Let's go on on with like, I mean, there's some vague sense of Maya for tradition, but not really, you know, yeah. Yeah, I can imagine like you know, the families that are part of this culture specifically. It's really beautiful because they're they're so. Close the closer to many of the men. Many of us to like the, but the culture back in like the tying us to our cold, like it's tying us like, I think it's great for black people to to get involved in this even if you aren't directly a part of the goal aja, I it. It seems like that's actually a worthwhile. Like when I I'm gonna pack up my kids and my family, and we're taking a, we're taking a vacation to the goal GI, CI, nation. Yes. I mean, it's first of all, probably cheaper to fly there. Then going back to like, you know, Africa Africa or something. Yeah, it is. And I mean, I think you'd probably even I feel like I don't know this by, no. Some people have gone back to like the motherland had anti-climactic experience not saying the for everybody by people who have. They just didn't feel as like, welcomed, open armed. Whereas, whereas I feel like this, they're like, Kay. I'm black American, your black America. We speak the language wanna learn how to quilt and this is your heritage too. You know. Okay. So African songs are the foundation or what may be referred to as gully music deeply rooted in music traditions brought to the Americas by enslaved Africans. The music evolved out of the conditions of slavery to carry characterize their lives. The influence in evolution, a musical forms that arose out of Gulf music can be heard in many musical genres, including spirituals, gospel music, ragtime, rhythm, blues, soul, hip hop and jazz. Basically, Gulf music has been touched everything. So there is a deep connection. It's basically if you wanna see the pathways between Africa to America in really kinda see the connection it go, give Chee community nation, people there that pathway. I wanted to point you to since you were talking about visiting the national. Service? Yeah, they designated this area in William tongue, North Carolina. They're so basically the goal Ichi cultural heritage corridor. It starts Williamson, North Carolina to the north, and then to Jacksonville, Florida in the south, that the congress designated that area as the Gullick Ichi area. So you can visit, there's a park. There's all of this different stuff that you can do. There's you know, a home rose where the first freed slaves like lived in the first schools were there. It's really interesting in the pictures are fascinating. They're kind of missionary looking a little bit, but also veal swampy. So it's it's, I think it would be a cool trip to take if you find yourself in that area. Yeah, I just I remind us blown. It's this thing that I just did not know it was there in my own backyard. That's fucking amazing. So cool. And now it does put like goes island into a different perspective for me. A huge different perspective that like it was actually has called thrill significant. Like it's a big, it's kind of cool that they were able to create like such a like a fund children show out of like something so deeply American in not really talked about, and I wish I would have the context to me I saw is on Wikipedia. And so this is like their first African American, like fully African American show. They unloading. And I it it like to me, it just seemed like, oh, they're just showing Blackpool's like from fr- like I am not time growing up, like I e routines of like, you know, Africanness was you were. It was like, you. Foodie shit, you know, African booties. And so it seemed like it was. It wasn't a cool thing to be like, oh, I'm watching Gago his Highland and like, but like now looking back, I'm like, what kind of forever Golic on the island, give me that they should bring like a island back lane. The time. 'cause I, it'd be yeah. Now naked real like make it lay. Yeah, don't bring. No bingo, bingo up onto the. We don't need no giant yellow pepper frog. I don't need him. You don't. That's the goal ago. People Good. Golic Ichi Golic is not eat see. They are. Meal. Panel. We have just thirty seconds of to on listeners that we know what the f. we're talking about when it comes to pop culture. Are you guys? Let's go famous, Chris, lock in Christoffersen, Tim's worth Karen. 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It conspiracy. Actually, those are rumors. Right. That's a rumor. You know what I America also some gossip too, but I can see why. The MSCI Gere gerbil three. They. So, but the conspiracy Anna defined conspiracy in this article which I thought it was very important to do to. And Anna Merlin author of gives she's an author at Gizmodo and she has a callback conspiracies, and she says it conspiracies are believed the smoke of people as working in secret against the common good to create harm or to affect some negative change in society to seize power for themselves some Manati or to hide some lake deadlier or consequential secrets. And a conspiracy is when they're actually doing that's actually happening. You know that that's actually and there's a history of conspiracies that because I think you know, like conspiracy, like rumor is like, ooh, that might be happening. But conspiracy is like it's actually happening. There is a group of people who are actually doing it. You know, like this is actually happening at the end of conspiracy theory theory, right? Which a theory is like, oh, I think this is happening, but regular Zing, I'm proposing but a regular. Conspiracy, it's like, no, this is happening. It's happening. So there's conspiracies has been. There's been conspiracies affecting African Americans in the US. It's a time as old as baseball. They like there's conspiracies has been happening towards African Americans for a long time and before you can I roll let you like, oh, I don't think they're really happening corrector gays because let me remind you the Gigi syphilis study, which we talked about conspiracy which happened, which happened and just refresher. I know that we talked. You talked about this on the podcast happened forty five years ago from nine hundred eighty two to seventy two and medical workers were working with the US public health service and they were withholding treatment for nonconsecutive non consenting unsuspecting black men and factor with syphilis. There was like six hundred men involved. Three hundred ninety nine hat civilised two hundred and one didn't and a cure for syphilis happen around like nineteen forty one penicillin. And they never gave the men. The treaty. They just wanted to see what would happen to their bodies and how civilised would affect their bodies and ravaged their bodies, right, which is, and then then dissect their bodies when they were dead. And the racial ramifications from that is like insane. And they've been working to get this huge because the money people then got affected. Then we're or born like through through a mother who had syphilis just like generations infected and they were doing some reparations, but not enough. And then there's a dark spot on American history and North Carolina, and then and other conspiracy that happened, North Carolina, forcibly sterilized, thousands of horror black women from nineteen twenty nine to nineteen seventy four. Essentially, some women were as young as fourteen. There were doing it to women who the they labeled as you know, poor uneducated, who maybe some if they thought they had too many children. And yeah, like they're forcing them into sterilization, and this is how important the supreme court is because of nine hundred twenty seven, the upheld a four sterilization law for the supposed- good. A society and Justice. Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote is a better world for it is it is. It is better for all the world if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecilities society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind God. This is happening in the US and backed. Hitler was inspired by this essentially. You genyk the US within this is where he, this is where he got the idea from cool from the you. Thanks. You know. Yeah, I end after Jim crow laws had ended and blacks were that integrated into welfare? It became less about eugenics and actually just them trying to save money. Geez. Yes. Yes, so so that's another conspiracy, yeah, yeah. And then there is the e Saint Louis army tests that in the nineteen fifties and addictive leader, the army used a motorized blowers atop low income housing and high rises at schools I and they also had from the backs of station wagons. They were essentially sending out potentially dangerous compounds into the air, and it was centrally were testing the effects of this powder. They're saying like, oh, we're trying to see if it's gonna be like, what if Russia tries to attack us this in the middle of the Cold War and we wanna see full like what will happen. There's centrally testing these chemicals. It was a sink, cadmium sulfide, and find fluorescent powder, and one of the women's remembers being outside playing and just getting like this dust blown all over room from these narrow. And she said that she was born in one of these buildings and that her dad died shortly after she was born from like cancer, four for eleven siblings died very young from cancer, and they're working towards reparations for this, but they're very there hasn't been to try to give full on reparations because they're like it's a slippery slope to slavery reparations. Oh, well, that I mean, what's wrong with that? Yeah, you, oh, yeah, I, you know what? I don't know that also mind you wonder where like conspiracy theories like Chem trails come from when shit like that was actually happening? I actually did. Yeah, actually fucking happen. There were testing it and in this in this predominantly black town part of the city neighborhoods prize. So and then he has to look at this and things that are probably happening right now. Just like, you know, the Flint water situation just like these are conspiracies and lake, but an I, I'm, this is helping me to understand the conspiracy doesn't. I hear conspiracy. And it seems like, oh, that's made up, but the real idea, but conspiracy is that like it is a real thing that's happening and it's it's the power group of people conspiring conspiring. Yeah, conspiring. So there is actually a nationwide conspiracy to still vote, so does the history of conspiracy. So we just proved it that conspiracies to fact black people. It's a real thing that happens in this nation, people at the top exists, and there is a nationwide conspiracy to still votes that involves undermining election laws, and but it's not the one that everyone's trying to talk about that you know, president Twitter fingers has been spouting about and so in. So it's not voter. Fraud is voter. Fraud itself is not a significant problem like their has been countless people who've looked into it. It just isn't a real thing. You're more likely to be abducted by aliens in the last election, they looked at it. That's what one of the one of the findings said. He's like, you're more likely to be adopted by aliens and like. No, the jury federally Don cherry voter fraud happening, and they looked at in two thousand sixteen. There were just four cases in the last election of voter fraud of someone voting either lately or like using, you know someone who is dead, all those sort of things that they say are happening. They're not. And in fact, cheetah Leany he was first order. He had executive order of the advisory commission on elections. They spent hundreds and thousands of our American tax dollars to look into it, and they found no evidence, no evidence the fraud is coming from inside the house. Okay. It's an inside job. So I of the conspiracy essentially of of making it. So black people can't vote. It's a conspiracy. The frog is happening from inside the house and make it so that we can't vote. So a recent report by the Bree Brennan center for Justice revealed that between two thousand six and she has an eight jurisdictions purge about six point, two percent of voters from their list of people eligible to cast a vote and between two thousand fourteen thousand sixteen that number more than doubled to fifteen percents and thirty states still use voter purging which affects non whites. The most let go wherever you stay. What do you know which states there? I don't know, but it's a good thing to look and see if your state is participating in on right, voter, Pershing, and what are we only to do why we're talk. I really excited, not well. Why we talked about this is that like so many people try to go vote and they don't realize that they've been purged. And so talk to everyone in your family and friends and make sure that they need to check. I forget the website. You can Google it and check to make sure that you are registered to vote and make two. They did not purge you for whatever bullshit. It's so important. So Shelby v holder was a ruling on the eliminated provisions in the Voting Rights Act that required federal pre-clearance of changing of changes to voting laws. So then once that happened, that's when state started rushing to enact essentially their draconian voter identification laws. So there weren't voter identification laws until Shelby beholder got past, and then all these state sort of running in. So essentially dismantled the Voting Rights Act that happened and prior to two thousand sixteen election, Florida and near North Carolina had attempted to shorten the time periods for early voting in count counties that were heavily black, and there is even a Republican memo that was like herald around the African American voting was down due to the limited limiting early voting because a lot of you know, black people, black people who are the working class. I want to point the fucking thing out always. Like a black and Latino black people and Latinos, we are the working class like we are the ones in there. So we don't tend to have jobs sometimes that will allow us to really have the flexibility to vote. So they participate in early voting. And so that's why Republicans have been working to dismantle early voting affecting. That's disgusting gap Wisconsin cut. It's early voting hours in Ohio. Also the same as well as eliminating same day voter registration. So again, who gets affected by this POC and liberal leaning voters? Because we, you know, and again, we come out numbers when the more voter turnout and it's just the majority of American is more so liberal-leaning like they've believe like even real re Republicans also believe in a lot of the same things in terms of like gun control and a lot of these things. And so there are a lot of these are actually nonpartisan issue. North Carolina North Carolina's is even talk about Obama ally. Piano, go rhino, Golic people get out and vote each. You rock the vote rock the vote. So she homes are okay? Yeah, North Carolina cut early voting and a number of its counties with large black communities. Oh, that is so shady him. Yeah. Oh, this also happened North Carolina. They had a campaign allegedly sent. The thing is in the last election eighty one thousand postcards threatening voters in eighty one. Predominantly black districts on five years in prison. If anything on their voter, registration was incorrect. That's pride and you already know that why people are overly represented in, you know, the prisons and I think it was Lee and some of them were afraid they'd be thrown back into prison. It was just like a lot of misinformation that was sent out. Yeah. And so that's the thing that's like this giant conspiracy just press black voters, God. It's like so obvious, right? Like it's happening, voter ID laws of voter, ID laws in Texas and North Carolina have been trying to be passed to discriminate specifically on blacks Latinos, but with they haven't, they? I think they've tried like four to five different times. They keep trying to push these things through which is widely every election matters because just because you stop a Bill once or you stop an electorate once doesn't they'll be back a gun machine, Wisconsin. Oh, man are moving to a different part, Wisconsin. Succeeded in passing their voter, idealize. He then get surprised, black turnout fell sharply. Yeah. Oh my God. It's like all of these tactics. We gotta fight against these tactics if you are any of these states, you got to really keep an eye out. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I made should a message. My my one of my family was like, make sure you are registered to vote you if you think that you are double check, like make sure that you are and honestly, now's the time. 'cause some states like I'm, they start closing the gap of you being able to register to vote and be able to participate in the elections. Sometimes it's it's in some say, it's it could be six weeks out. So someone if you're not registered to vote, you're already out doesn't sixteen elections. So. Talk to everybody. So sixteen nine percent of black voters were told that they lacked proper identification to vote versus just three percent of white voters. That's not one more time just it can really resonable nine percents of black voters were told that they lacked proper identification to vote versus just three percent of white voters. And why is that? Like, what? Why is that what's happening? What's happening? Does polling station waiting that like that. You said this. I mean, that's just straight up. Racism turned away what is going on twice as many black voters, ten percent than white voters who are at five percent were incorrectly told that their names had been purged from voter, rolls, incorrectly told, Yup, incorrectly told us with the articles citing this is disgusting and she doesn't fourteen Georgia secretary of state Brian Kemp who is now the Republican candidate for governor. He said this, I'm gonna listen. So this is like you said, like it's a. In their clear, they're they're so tactful in what it is that they're doing. And I don't think that we realize as and I'm going to sidetrack here a little bit, but Michael Moore, he has a new documentary Fahrenheit, eleven nine out knowing it's not doing well at the box office, but this is apparently his best documentary that he's done one of his best like, apparently it's like really, really great. And so we definitely should go out there and support it. But he said he was actually trying to get Bannon in the documentary. He's interview Steve Bannon and Steve Bannon. I did a preliminary interview with them just to see if it was going to be the right thing for him to do. Okay. And he said the Steve, he's like, I'm not recording any of this. Just putting this all out there. I'm like not recording anything, but he's now talking about it like, you know, he didn't say it would ever talk about it and this is what he said. When this what Steve Bannon said, Steve Bannon said, this is the problem with the liberals is that you guys are in a pillow fight and we're at war. You guys are bringing pillows to a war on my God, and that's how they view it. Already. At war tactical, it's insane. It's bananas, they're already there. And so then and then so when Michael Moore was going back in doing his documentary at it. Would realize he he put his pillow fight filter on, and so he was like, are we are we pillow fighting right here and these moments or scenes because there was a moment when he had made a comment of most networks are led by white men, and he was like, whoa, why am I pill fighting here? No, the statement is all networks are by. Don't often it exactly. We tend to do that on the liberal side because we want to make sure the Ryan. And they don't care about that and it is working in it winning. Yeah, so and this is what that Brian camp. The Republican candidate for governor is, but he's just said, I said, I just wanted to tell you real quick. After we get through this runoff, you know, the Democrats are working hard and all these stories about them, you know, registering all these by voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines if they can do that, they can win these elections in November. That, I mean, yeah, good. We need to win the elections in November. Right? But he's saying that like it's a, it's a, he's saying, they're registering all these minority voters sharing I. No, which is totally which goes improves that that there is motive behind the conspiracy of voter fraud. Yep. Yep, absolutely. It's a real thing it's happening and so there is it's not the way that it's been touted by by by by Breitbart which I mean it makes sense like what's Breitbart is spewing. They know that there's fewing lies, but a, it's a propagate now, then I would make sense now it makes sense their propaganda machine because they're at war, and I just didn't realize it. We didn't there at work because for them to them equality means the death for them and so there for them fighting for their lives. So I, it's election time baby and we're recording this right now on national register to vote day. I believe it is so, but you'll. Here this afterwards, but still it's still registered to vote and make sure that I, you know, I think like I mean, thinking about if we everybody got these five people to register to vote and major, those five people went to go and vote who weren't already registered, you know, that's a huge. That's a huge thing right there. Make sure you are all up in running. Everything is registered, everything is correct. And then just go out there. You do your civic duty. It. I mean, it's necessary of all elections. This one is super crucial. Absolutely. While said, yeah, the vote. Yeah, I forgot to tell you something. Oh, what did you forget? It was the other point about CBS that I had now that less moon vessel think CBS might get. I think you think about CBS is a very, very white network visually, right? Yeah. When did you say who's been in charge of that full this time? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm very excited to see that man co even more so you know, they needed teen vogue makeover, they, you know what. However, they need a team CBS the teen vogue makeover, you ain't never lied game. That's so good. You're by an okay. We had a one of our corner kids row in. We've got involved in the conversation. They send. They send us an old school Email. I love it. Tell me about it. Well, we had mentioned that Hillary Clinton and Helen Keller were taken out of the history books in Texas and Lisbie chimed in. And I really like the response and I think it made a lot of sense that Lisbie said, I think the reason Texas is taking Helen Keller off the history books is because she became an outspoken member of the socialist party when shoot up and also ties to the industrial workers of the world interesting campaign for women's suffrage rights anti militarism and other similar causes. Well, because she's your worst nightmare. If you're a far by taxation, and then let's be also said, I love you guys. Thank you for your insights and personality. You bring to the news and pop culture discussion. Thanks lose be. I think that that's awesome that you were able to bring us some extra history. Helen Keller. I. It sounds like she would fit in right here on minority corner. Ellen Keller if only we were, we were just, you know, ships passing in the night, not right now. I mean, none of those things you mentioned were race related, but let's just hope Bush. You know how. How how. Brace. She. I mean she was blind into was center that Cedeno that there was a Ray, although CB wonder knows he's black. Yes. So funny anecdote about CV wonder. He thought ninety eight degrees is black. I don't know about no. He said, well, nNcholas shea said the love line when nNcholas Shays promoting those facts when they did the song for Moulin. Your heart. I mean, come on what we see me wonder it'd be able to, well, there wasn't the Twitter, so he wouldn't be able to recant so fast. So I don't know, probably wasn't washing line. I rather hear from Stevie Wonder if you wonder because. Also, I feel like that might be a little insulting to people with seeing disabilities. It's like a main come on. You can deal, but okay. But let's say he did see, say like he meant the sound of their voices. They signed a black. I will believe Stevie Wonder over Nicklaus say, okay, we'll we'll put a circle. But kunas Helen Keller. You were doing so many things, and you know what? This helps. I have a retraction as well, because I know and one of her earlier episodes baby, James who didn't really know a lot of things. I don't know if you remember this, but I, I gotta be honest. I didn't really know anything about how how in color apparently she, you broke the news to me that she wrote a play and I said, and I quote it must have been terrible my head. And you were like, no, it was really good. And that was the point that see brother really gonna play. I don't know. I'm glad you know what I'm glad that you're taking your retraction back. Yeah. Keeping me hundred. And she did not. She was also like clearly in activists you'd out. I mean, she was an activist. I just didn't know in what way she was an activist. And I knew that she also went in like social circles and did a lot of stuff. So yeah, more respect needs to be given to Helen Keller. That's for damn, right? Yeah. So you know, doesn't need to be happening, not hurt being taken out of the history books that's enjoyable is put her back in the poker back, put it back in the book. Yeah, my God damn well. Well on that. No. Oh. We got in real deep about howling Keller just now, you know what? It's that's kunas the Helen Keller. That's her third time making it onto the show. Yeah. Hell yeah, she needs to again, maybe we need house egg, Matt. How colored? How Keller? Yeah, that's a stretch. How are ya? How Keller? Yeah, that's the kids are going to be saying, you'll see how how Keller? Yeah, I'll give you that. I'm trying to do. Well, where can you find those. Does naked. There are so many places that you can find as my address is. No, we find his on the Twitter's minority corner. We are there. We are all day spot with a k. don't forget the k. if you tweet at the c. person, we don't know what they are, so they might not like if you tell them about Helen Keller, they might not know what you're talking about. So you've been warned and we're also on the Facebooks? Yes, we are minority corner with a k. we have our Facebook page and we also have the corner, kid's playground where people are posting in sharing things, a great community and conversation that's happening there. And you can also send us an Email just like lesbian did and send odd to at minority corner all about with the k. g. dot com because see was taken Dow also bright red review on itunes hospital. The finance. We have one hundred fifty five stars, which is. You guys on my tritiated. Thank you think and we haven't had. You could be the first reviews time. We've not how to review for September. We would love it because the last I think it was a BI. 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Men in Black: International - A Podcast Preview

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14:54 min | 1 year ago

Men in Black: International - A Podcast Preview

"We are the best kept secret in the universe work for a highly funded yet. Unofficial government agency. Our mission is to monitor extraterrestrial activity on earth. We are your best last and only of defense we work in secret. We exist in shadow, we dressing black. The. From the. Outlaying listeners. This is Arnie coast of now playing in case somebody's zapped. You with a neuro lies or I wanted to remind you that few years back, we reviewed the men in black virtue spectrum series. Well, there's a new installment in that series men in black international. They came out Tessa Thompson. Chris Hemsworth because I guess the casting director didn't go any further than Thor ragnarok set, but it is out now as is our review. Here's a clip from that review. And then I'll be back to tell you how to hear all of our men in black reviews in a moment. But this opening I'm enjoying the location of the Eiffel tower. I'm enjoying the jokes about the couple trying to get engaged and they get neural is, and he's like propose again in the elevator. Then Hemsworth gets knocked down the elevator and things like ask her again, when you're on the ground. This is not laughing out loud, but I'm smirking I going with us far only a couple of minutes into the film by question is because it's going to become a big deal later on that h isn't the same ever since that thing in Paris. Is this supposed to be him because I wanted to see what he was supposed to be like, again, show me, just don't tell me and this is a horrible film. If you want visual storytelling, I think that is the biggest failure of this film, everything is just like you said, Stewart just mumbled under people's breath. And we're supposed to catch it. Give me an example. Jacob I don't throughout the film. We're told, oh, what has happened to h just not the same as he was show me him being total bad ass in Paris. I don't see me in a bad ass. I see him falling down and elevator. And try to help people get married visually. Tell me that this person is different than when I first saw him. Yeah. This doublespeak they'll tell us that what makes H so cool is what he did in this moment. And yet, at the same time later, people are like you haven't been as good since two hive. What does that mean? It means that this was the one time that he did anything great. And the fact that they cut away from it. Always see are some tentacles coming through a doorway. They're trying to disguise how obvious the twist is by obstructing, what actually transpires here. But the most important thing you can do when you're introducing new characters has tell us something about them. Hemsworth is just going to coast on Thor. I'm the hembo that gets into comedic hijinks, because my era, Gance always puts me into harm's way. And I do a pratfall and he is just doing what he has done before without creating a new character. We're just to accept it as hymns worth and not as some new age character. I do think h. Chance for homes worth. I do see a couple or jokes here. Obviously the hammer when you mentioned this whole attitude is store. He is playing for I disagree. I think he's playing something far more straight. I think he's trying to play the reference, I got was Brendon Frazier in the mummy films, where he was an adventure but not quite as good as he thought he was. And yet very much a him Bo who the women were swooning over which is Thor. That's era Gance matched with pride that gets him into trouble. And then, you know, he's always the butt of the joke. He never gets to be cool in this film much like the way they played four for a lot of his best movies is that he is just ridiculous. And yet I've seen him do funny him. Boy. Again, Ghostbusters twenty sixteen. I don't wanna think about that film. And I consider none of it. Good. Okay. I thought he was very he may have been the funniest part of that. And I think it was a lot of just weird improv that he was doing. And when he walks in with his giant Aachen vacation is just swinging. In that thing around. It's funny it's a crude joke, but he pulls it off because he can't embody that him Bo mentality. So, well, I am shocked that I don't laugh at all at hymns worth this, Phil. Chris Hemsworth is a good comedic actor. I think that he's trying his best here by saying that he's phoning it in it means that he hasn't done any character work. Or maybe there's nothing on the page to base. It almost feels like much like they talked about the original production. They're just making it up as they go along. This really is just a series of improv gags. I don't know all the behind the scenes. There's been a lot of finger pointing that's happened. Once the box office came out like Monday morning. Whereas they're usually announcing the sequel to get you to keep going back this time it was the blame game. And there were things. I'd never heard of. Of course, they said there were rewrite going on set and the director wasn't happy with the script something I'd never heard of before, though. Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson weren't happy with the script as each hired their own screenwriters to. Right there specific dialogue. Well fire them they failed. So anything they said was written for them by, like one of their assistance, because they didn't like the way their characters were written in the rigid, script, I'd give him more props, if they did it themselves, the fact that they have to farm out their own lines usually, actors know exactly how they wanna come across what they wanted to say that's bad form on their parts. That makes me think less of base, we think, less of Hemsworth as a comedian. I'll say that, for sure. Because like you said Jacob, but he's come off, as funny and some of his roles now I know he is only funny. If those words are put in his mouth, you know, that Will Smith was handed pages that didn't work in the previous movies and said, okay. I got an idea and anybody on that set should have been able to have a better idea than what we're seeing just having me. Picturing Will Smith going up to Chris Hemsworth and goes, you know what the differences between you and me. I make this shit work. I make it look. Good. Let me meet you guys. Halfway. I don't see him being hugely heroic here. I do see him falling down the elevator shaft. And we cut away. That is a little bit of an obvious. What happened for the rest of it? I do think telling it out of order is a little bit weird that we start in twenty sixteen jumped to nine hundred ninety six and then jumped to twenty nineteen that's unnecessarily confusing. And I'll agree that when we're talking later on and people are like, oh, you've changed. I would like to know what has changed. Exactly. I would like to know how he's acting different at one point in alien is going to touch him. Feel like telepathically you are different. What, what has made him different is not adequately. Spelled out. I put in the plot summary. He's resting on his laurels but it could be when t- Noor allies is him at the end of the scene that we don't see he changes his attitude. I don't know. Well, yeah, that's what it is. And I guess that again about halfway through the film after three hundred characters of told us. Man, you've really changed. I wish I could feel that change. But they're going to have every character pops up on screen. Tell us that so this thing called a high is coming. And if you're called a hive is soon that you have a group think mentality and you co opt everything you touch. And it seems to be a massive tentacles that is falling to the Eiffel tower, the Eiffel towers important because it actually was the first extraterrestrial processing center. It was where we first started bringing in into earth. Is this ret conned, I don't know what year they say, the first migration was they keep making a big deal about the first migration? But I went back to the first minute black to rewatch the exposition part about how they were stabbed nineteen sixty one alien showed up met with nine people, and that was the establishment of the men in black, and then the world's fair. That's how they hid their alien ships, Eiffel. Towers older than nineteen sixty one. So is this a wreck on their doing? Yeah. I think by going international, they're not gonna follow America's love affair with aliens. I mean that really. Start in the forties, and the fifties and their specific reasons to that. I mean, the location there's a correlation between people seeing aliens, and the military testing that was going on in Nevada at that time here because America's just not as important anymore. They're expanding it, they're going with a recognizable icon and tower puts it a hundred years before, all that men in black felt very American in the first trilogy. If we are going national, and it is said, they've opened a London office, like something happened since we've seen men in black glass, they've expanded. So I took this as the French history I thought it was kind of clever to say, I full was actually a scientist and a extraterrestrial master that the tower wasn't just something again, for the world's fair in Paris. But to facilitate aliens, I wish they had gone further with that. I wish he was actually a character here. They could have kept him alive. If he was in the Iliad, or maybe he's just a human helping aliens. But I would have liked to see St.. Mm punk men in black. That would have been really cool to do. We do see a couple years and stuff in this ivory tower that implies that the technology's very old pre computer. I could have enjoyed a whole lot more of that in this movie. I don't mind there being international in black. It's just the men in black. That concept is very American and so having it established in the US, and then yeah. Then you have spread because aliens could be anywhere, revalue Afo and alien supposed alien sightings everywhere, around the world. I wouldn't mind that and you could establish the Eiffel. Towers opening portals to something. But we don't know what it's there for it just felt a little weird to me that, okay? This is international. So we got even take the origins away from the Americans. So help me out. So the high does come we cut away from tentacles coming through the doorway. But we can presume they grab t why don't they continue to eat all of us. Why do they go away for three years to try it again later because it's better to have this mole in the m I b do something? 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648: Westworld Reaction, S3E8: "Crisis Theory"

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27:43 min | 6 months ago

648: Westworld Reaction, S3E8: "Crisis Theory"

"Greetings from the UNCANNY valley this is the TV podcast for Westworld on the incomparable network. Thank you Jason. Everybody over there for hosting us. I am your host. Kelly Gaumont with me as always done. Melton Party Undone Party on cars but not for a year or so. I was thinking work. We watched the finale this valley. This is the show for season three episode eight. It is called crisis theory. And we're here to talk about the season finale of westworld housekeeping note. Right at the top of the show. I said this the other day we will have a season three wrap-up later but for right now we're going to try and limit this to like. I said season three episode eight. I want to briefly. Skip ahead to the very end of the episode. I think I personally may have brain damage. Which was the name of the Pink Floyd Song? They used at the end of the program. I feel like I like mentally turned a little bit inside out as per tradition however because this is the reaction show nothing alison show. We're going to set the timer for twenty minutes starting now so don. Let's hear it. Well that's some way to end the season killing killing the star. I thought that was implied with. We're talking about this season finale. Yeah so that was quite the show. I remember when I said was it last week. We four is analysis episode. Well I don't think they'll kill. We're talking of right. Yeah we kind of started the pool and talked about who who wasn't wasn't GonNa make it out alive and I was convinced Caleb wasn't I was also convinced stubbs did not and we don't officially have an answer on that. We just know that Bernard literally put him on. Ice IN THE TUB of hotel was bad news with Shitty. Yeah and then we got. We got we. We didn't get a post credit scenes. We got a tripleheader post credits scene. Oh my goodness yes. Yeah that was. That was one weird post credit scene but anyway let's back up to the beginning of the episode. Let's go even a little bit before the beginning of the episode. Because this was one of the few times we gotta previously on that had dialogue. Yeah Yeah saying something very very interesting. Would you be the hero or the villain to Dolores? Yeah that was. I thought that was very very interesting. because honestly my assessment of her my assessment of her changed through this episode Are as a hero. No but definitely. She had way fewer villain points at the end of the episode. She did at the beginning. Yeah Yeah but she with the the confrontation with Holy Graph Hail Polo hail as a male caller. Oh and terrifying lake. Yeah Whoa so Tessa Thompson. If you ever just wants to be retire and be bad ass. I actually do anything. She just looked really really menacing bad ass and her acting. The season has just been off the innocent fearful. Whatever this it was old. Yeah this halo is is going to be hailed to pay. I'll tell you that much so I see it. Yeah I also noticed and I. I was already watching the episode when you sent the message and you forgot. I was on the group chat. And what did you say the message for our listeners? I don't have to wear. I wear all season. Did give it a good mother. Care Bulker yes. So so we don't know if that's deloris said there because he implied that it wasn't that really was there was no really was. Yes Oh the thing that said to me is who the heck is that lasts brain ball then if anything out about Berlin. That was my biggest my biggest. I think the thing that I showed it at the end when we went from the bourgeoisie slash possibly vitamin string quartet. Because I don't know yet. Version of brain damage from dark side of the moon to the actual version of dark side of the moon. I think I did shout Where was Berlin in all of this? Yeah so we still don't know we do know there's a force so we may find out a season for and so i. I thought at first when we get to the post credits scene with Manda Black. He's going to go to Berlin but it was not and Berlin. The credits ended. We were headed to Berlin. Oh goody but no no no so. We don't get Berlin for Blaker. Good year and a half probably. Yeah so yeah because they take forever to make this show him but we did. Get the fight between Dolores and Maeve and it was a good second fight. It really was interesting. It really was interesting and I remember we were. We were like. Why would you do this? You just did it. We also get the the really naked seend with Dolores and Caleb yeah super duper naked technical which is which was a creepy F as the kids say yes and also very very insightful. I mean it was and I thought the the makeup they had on the old style Dolores in the beginning of winter. Oh man do. The the intake brain ball was yeah. Jeff really creepy. I was also weirdly. Maybe not weirdly but I was very surprisingly. I guess creeped out by watching what we think of. As sort of like a late model hosts have the face peel back like young Ford did. It was very odd and it was. It was very surprising and very weird. Yeah Yeah what is the original and which is doing the fight was made in. May Have tried to cut her arm off and she said you know they they used to build a sturdier. Yeah right that'll make them like basically instead of fleshy like them. Yes so which was very interesting thing. I'm trying to remember exactly what she said. Because I was gonNA write it down and I didn't but it was something about They built us like them until until they realized some and I don't remember what it was they realized and I'm sad about that because I didn't write it down but it was cool and we'll talk about it in the past fifty times. It's not a problem. So there's that conversation. Then there's the conversation in the Robo moral to where they they connect and as dolores you know she's getting the two thousand one daisy daisy thing. Yes Where she's getting her memories of eating deleted and but it's really touching and heart warming. Almost it was. She goes back. I would go so far as to say it was a human moment between the two of them to really have that that actual moment and the way. Let's talk for a minute. About how frigging optimistic that was for Dolores to kind of lean in and go iced basically like I know it's fucking horrible but I still choose to see the beauty in Mandy Lake. Who Knew that the ray of Sunshine in two thousand twenty was gonNA come from Westworld? I mean obviously it's Tony. Twenty-nine shouldn't be surprised. But I did kind of like. Wow what a life-affirming message to come from this show and remember. We were worried about it. Tap dancing into a documentary. So yeah it did not sit well although the rioting I do have to call Shenanigans on the writing. I did tell you this I. I think it was very weird. There was no Portland on the map when we got all the divergences Because we kind of have a propensity for riots. Even when it's not armageddon so I was a little disappointed that the scheduled we we kind of do out second Tuesday the month. I guess yeah I miss them because it's the same time as Karaoke but generally there's a riot. Yes yeah priorities. I also also. I like to call back in this episode. We've seen comebacks here. And they're two different things and the callback in this episode was a call back to an earlier season three episode when Caleb rolls up to the tide ocean distillery but la. Yes which I feel like was underscoring for people who didn't bother to go look it up. Sign Me God who it was a that was that was quite enchanting so the other thing that we got this episode is we got a lot more. Bernard time yet on likes deciding stuff left right and center. Yeah which was nice. I needed at least one more episode of that to feel like he got he didn't get short. Shrift another episode like this would have been pretty great but that was yeah. Loren Loren the moment with Arnold wife when it's okay Arnold and she reaches out and takes his hand. I will admit There was some sort of Internet issue at my house and for about thirty seconds. That part of the episode. Got Really Blurry. Yes Yay technical problems technical problems with my it happens. Yeah that was again. One of those One of those things that we've talked about on this show like they take on really big themes all the time but we get these really small moments these really human moments even when it's too hosts that are having it. It's still very human moment in. It's the part that we can relate to as we're watching the show and watching her reach out and take his hand and sort of watching him kind of cracks that open and and make his piece you know with all of that to me was very touching so. I thought it was interesting and I expected you know. He's going to be going in talking to the fifth brain ball. Oh absolutely what I seem to what I don't understand is I sold understand the part of the plan. Why the part? That really likes this episode. And there's a part of me that goes. Why all these disjointed pieces yes. I had that same problem and so because we got a little payoff out. Yeah but we also like what the hell was the point of storyline I. He'll be the I did like the twist that. Oh it was me all along with the key details which I wondered about when he kept saying like Delors left basically like Delors left something in my head. Yeah it's the key. Yeah so although speaking of the key I did get a bit shoddy win. He didn't offer it to stubs. I because I love cubs and I don't want him to bleed out with bad booze in a bathtub in a terrible hotel and it looked. It gave me a very strong Bates Motel vibe because I watched the TV show version of Bates Motel. That's kind of what it reminded me of and so I was very sad so good but if you think this is dark. This is Mr Rogers compared to Bates Motel but thinking about it was I was feeling really bad for stubs. And if they both if both Bernard and stubbs no that stumps is on his way out. Why wouldn't Bernard offer him the option and that was the part that made me sort of Saudi? Was like you know you're leaving. You're basically leaving him there to die but you're not GonNa let him take crack at it. I that seemed really disappointing to a host is brain. Bowl is intact. He's not GonNa die so that's true but remember. He stuck him literally on ice. So that he wouldn't have narcotic something or other which means like you've been dead awhile and your body starting to turn on you and so I was worried about that. And so I I I was had for stubs like I said I didn't think he was gonna make it out alive. And to the best of my knowledge he did not like intact. I guess would be a better word because the host but Caleb did make it out which cow supreme with all his part was also a little both. Well that's an interesting but also disappointed in ceramic. Send that you know. I thought so. He's had a listening device in his era. And he's just parroting what Rowbotham. What is brother tells him? Well I think it uses his brother's waste but I think it's him more or less and so that's how he's sort of rationalizing. It is that he wants to like. He's doing what the system says because he will have order raves. So that's really all it is. He feels like they're that nobody had free will in the first place. So he wasn't really trading it for anything he was just getting his internal voice from an external source which most people don't have the opportunity to do so. I think he was using that as justification. That's he sleep at night and it W- it was kind of disappointing but I did like that. He was sort of left high and dry at the end of all of it like it was nice to see him get his after all. I guess yeah it wasn't interesting. It wasn't my favorite thing that he that was how he went out but The fight right before he went out. That was the thing that I made that I made a note about was Everything being lit by machine gun fire and watching may go to town and this was another moment where I was struck by her. Use of the Psalm. The the Japanese sword and how profound her experience and show good role must have been for this to become her weapon of choice for season three. Well it's not a thing we well. Oh yes she's with the sort but the the thing because I sort of this sort of crosses my mind every time she pulls the sword out in episode in season three is how profound her experience in. Shogun world must have been for this to be the thing that she uses to move. Forward is the Samurai Sword. So I'm always every time she pulls that out. I'm like yeah that's what's up. Yes I thought it was cool. What I thought was also cool cool. Shot back was when she gets out in the bridge. And they're watching you the world fall apart and she goes interests her her anti calvinism speech. There's a little reference for predestination their new worlds and you can be whoever the fuck you want your thought. That was really loved it. I thought it was. You could say you know. It's her. Just parodying some of the programs you have to weigh tend to Newton delivered it. She was delivering it as a joke for herself. Because obviously Caleb wouldn't get the joke right because he never right never Seen that storyline right and I speaking of Caleb seeing story lines that was very surprising to find out that Park five is basically just a military installation not war world but We're using this. So people can sort of practice on live targets which was interesting and does give an ounce of credence to our theory about how many of other how many of calebs other memories are also sort of implanted in Fake like maybe. The broad strokes of it are correct but in actuality You know he wasn't in Creamy and he didn't do those things and you know that kind of stuff. Yeah Catalina what happened? I also thought it was a great actress towel. Akimoto Dario and she was in this episode and she was in there with Evan. Rachel Wood as delores sitting there next Delors in town. Yeah and so as the IMF atolls and so I thought that was nice but I wanted to after what she did episode last episode. And we're the hell is Angeles Seraphin and the other Dolores head or bar in Satele. She said Yeah. I was wondering that as well. So we have a fifth unaccounted brain. Paul we we have the Sato brain ball which is still around if not connected to a body anymore and also we have the transfers the actor Up Up up Who the person got the deloris? It got blown up. Why can't connel's spring ball is? Mia Hail hit no hill as that. Oh eight okay she took it so. Hillary's has her own army of Lawrence is bright and it seems like Tandy. Newton was the one that was controlling. Angela and Angela Sarah Klein Dario were they in this episode. They couldn't admit or something or I. I think it's a loose thread that we're GONNA get season for. I think I think the announcement of season four came way before the actuality of season for because I think they win. They probably went into this knowing. There was going to be another season. So that things like that were okay to kind of leave until then I did have a couple of other notes from this episode because I'm pretty sure in the home stretch I now. I'm very curious. What a twenty thousand dollar bottle of Scotch tastes like. Oh Yeah finding out that Williams drinking one. What is that lake? I wish to like now that I know that that's the thing I wish to know like. I knew they were expensive or another that expensive. I very much need to know the fate of giggles to know very much. I know he got shot. And I'm very cerebral and to ask but I need to know what happened to giggles. We saw ash led away in cuffs. But I don't know if giggles made it or not and I need giggles and his shirt to be okay. That's very important to me. Like I said at the top of the show we did get brain damage by pink floyd at the end of the episode. Here we go all day timer and Madrid now. Yes well I had a little bit services find. This time was notable because they went from the orchestral version of the song. Like I said into the Pink Floyd version of the song which was very nice We got a bunch of William at the end and then we got the end of William the end as drug cut is. Let's it seems pretty serious and the thing that I wanted to point out was I did watch afterward. They had sort of another one of these. Like behind the scenes kind of interviews and the part. That really stuck with me was Lease joy saying life is a series of choice. I wrote it down exactly. Went Back and listen to it like three times. Life is a series of choices. About which parts of your programming? You let sing and which parts of your programming you deny and I thought that was pretty profound as a Philosophy to go into season three so my final thoughts are I was. I'm sure I will watch this again and find more things like what happened to Clementine that sort of bug me. But as a finale I feel overall right now. Fresh off the viewing reasonably satisfied. How you done reasonably satisfied? It was a fun. Hbo Lewis is an hour and seventeen minutes. I'm sure part of it was the little thing at the end but we we got bonus time on this. We have at least an extra ten minutes on this episode so that was pretty cool. Yeah I feel overall pretty like I said pretty satisfied Still grumpy that stubs didn't get to go to the sublime especially because we solve Bernard wake up at the end and so I'm really curious where that's GonNa go. Where Bernard under his layer of dust like why he came. Back that really. That's one of those moments or like why. What does he hope to find there? We don't know I don't know that it was so much what he wanted to find there as much as a feeling pretty okay with leaving all this behind. I think it was more like I. I will trade the unknown for the known at this point because he kind of made mention of the end of the world. So I think out for me that was part of it So yeah that was. That was another thing. It was really nice to get like. You said it was really nice seeking the cameo from Lawrence but it just gave me nineteen more questions. Like who is he and wise he there. And what were the explosives supposed to be for? And how did he get out and What brain ball is in his brain? And if that's the case then I just had a whole bunch more questions plays I would. I was really excited about it for a minute. And then we'll wait a minute what's up. So how `bout how `bout overall for you very very similar. You know. It's like well. That was really interesting. But I've only got sixty million questions here. Chinese Lisa can just pull up a chair. Here let me go through these. I wrote them down. You know I do too and so you on the show to help us with some guidance on these things since it's going to be like twenty twenty two before we get any sort of answer of substance. I would be more than happy to have you on the show. Talk about it at speed of more than happy we can. We can have them on the analysis for this episode. And we're not sure yet whether we do analysis on this episode or an impromptu a retrospective on the season it probably just a hair of that ladder stuck in there too. Because you know how lazy we all are and guessing there will be both those that possibly Other people that we know who are super into the show will WANNA come by and chat with us about it for the for the whole season. Retrospective probably will probably and that way we can. Milk says podcast for all. It's worth to get a chance to talk to people and we again. We still want to hear your theories. I WanNa hear very much of what people have to say about the post credits scene. I want to hear very much about what people have to say about. Brain damage particularly. If you're familiar with the because I was listening to that at the end of the show and lyrics to the songs they pick are always important yet. There was much giggling as we as I was listening to the end of brain damage and For people who don't know because I have a hard time with pink Floyd Song titles The name of the song is brain damage. It's the song on dark side of the moon that says dark side of the Moon in it so if that helps you can find it on apple music. Or what have you and. I think that's going to do it for us right now. I'm still very curious about Williams motivation and you will hear way more about all of this When we step into analysis later we have to wrap up for now. I'm sad this is the last one but I'm glad we still have the analysis show to do. I'm very much looking forward to that and done. 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M&M November - The Girl That Dudes Want to Sleep With But Not Date

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M&M November - The Girl That Dudes Want to Sleep With But Not Date

"Hello everybody and welcome back back to another episode of. Don't blame me if you are watching. Welcome to the blue couch again. Yeah we're back but not like back-back canals not a brick wall. Now we're in a new office Exciting things nobody tell us that we need to go buy a lineup. neon sign no in legend. When and pay for it? Yeah they're like a lot like thousands of dollars that's that is a lot of money But really excited to be back. I'm excited to like also not be at my house. Yeah you know like I like my house and I'm excited to not be there. Were going to have to be there again. Okay just one time when. What are we going back to my house when we do the special well I mean I'm cool with that yet? I'll be good. Well if you guys are new here. This isn't advice podcast. If you you want to leave a voicemail upcoming episode you can leave us a voicemail at three one zero six nine four zero seven. Six and international listeners can send us an audio message at Meghan podcast G wealthed DOT COM. We've housekeeping news any other new stuff. No I was just oh aside from Youtube Channel got hacked but who knows in this goes up so this will be a mid November. So Oh my God happy Thanksgiving everybody him. Are you going away for Thanksgiving. Are you staying here Do you have plans. I I mean loose plan. Oh I'm going to hop. No no no. You're so popular. I was GONNA say Montana has literally no plans. We're just going to try and find a restaurant that's open and go get Thai food but you sound like you have lots of plans of people it was just GonNa I was Gonna come to your. I know my friend Katherine Katherine gets. That's you yeah. We'll just beating food and probably still watching love island because it takes so long just going to say I pick has a wonderful thanksgiving. Do they CASSIA. Oh Shit Yeah. I'm writing down. We might have to do that. It's beautiful we. What movies are going to be out? I don't know L. but last year you know what was out creed to really make cream in your coffee I would have died. There's nowhere great because my mom was here so I watched the first one. Oh Yeah we watched it at home. Because she hadn't seen it and I had hat though we're like that's when I fell in love with him was when I saw the first cream and I saw his back muscles and then that came out my mom like like she was like. I don't want to watch this. And then she got really. Yeah you're right now you do you do like Tessa Thompson. Like it's just it's so good so good and so yeah So I pick has a wonderful. I'm here for that. I could also do popcorn for Thanksgiving dinner. That's a fun time okay. Well happy holidays everybody Avenir okay. So do you need to call a dog. I'm good construction. Okay let's get into calls came so I am twenty four years old and New Jersey. Well not really newly a single. But I've been single for maybe six months seven months now and it's been amazing This summer actually I started on my dating Burlington new dates which is not me but it was. It was nice. It felt good. I felt like it gave me confidence and I mean you feel good about myself and it. It also allows me to just explorer which I've never been confident about and then I feel like kind of being free about it like a like made me feel better about it and more competent and now like you know have like dislike high sex drive but it was like two months ago for one on ball and I really like hence us a really nice. We've been talking and like the relationship between US unknown. She said we're dating but I I do not know what that means because he athlete. He's my boyfriend but he's he's never asked me you know. And he is two years younger than me so he just turned twenty two and and obviously and we were. We like have tried to Kinda have sex but like it didn't work out and you experiencing it. Because he was I understand but then all of the okay he's GonNa take office. We I kind of been hinting that like hey like why are we ever you know. Effect or not So basically Kinda hinting having gotten using return earn like actor retried is just like he doesn't WanNa touch me anymore and it's kind of like annoying but we yeah I I don't know what to do because like I told them like. Hey I eat the like you know pressured or satisfied or something like tell me like Coxoni. Basically quickly he just says you scared you feel that he's GonNa be good enough and now I'm thinking like if he's a version or not because I like you know if I was like his first first person or not and I kinda like do I wait like give some time I do not know what do I do you know like. I'm trying to be patient. I really the am but it's just like he won't talk about either. Thank you bye only oily. I JUST WANNA say my in instinct like visual reaction. If you're watching you know like adderall has nothing to do with. I also recognize now. I don't have to pay us. So maybe like doesn't affect my penis like don't have flown a little pain. Yeah Pena's so guitar but we did look it up. Yeah Yeah pick it does call can cause either increased sex drive or eating or or like a lower libido I mean I think it's great that you're trying to have have these conversations with him But I think at a certain point if someone doesn't WanNa talk about it like he also doesn't have to but like you don't have to date him like if he's not gonNA talk about it. This isn't just like A. Oh let me sit and wait it out kind of thing. 'cause like if he was actually serious about a relationship with you wanted to like have this be like a an actual go somewhere. I think it would be more of a conversation and also like the idea of like he won't even touch you at all. Yeah Yeah that to me. It's like you're right. He could totally be virgin. Just be like really like insecure especially because he said he doesn't know if it's GonNa be good or not yeah. I think that's what it is. It's probably it's it's probably that or he's just not experienced. Yeah he might not be aversion but he doesn't have that much experience So I think yeah talking in about it you doing your research about how to talk to someone about eighty would help And figuring figuring out what you guys are yeah like do you want to be his girlfriend or is it just because this challenge and like he's just there you know. Yeah Oh my God yeah. There's so much of like. Do I like this person. Because like they're they're they like me or like do I actually. Yeah so like if you actually like him and and you WanNa try to be in a relationship with him then you guys should have that conversation like hey like I wanna be in a relationship with you and then MM If sex is really important to you then you gotta figure it out if you if this is something that you wanna live with. Yeah I mean I would sit him down and have it be like this whole conversation at one time and be like. Hey I really like you I wanna date you like I really like WanNa be relationship with you but like we have to talk about the sexton look we have talked with the communication with that. And like if like if it's like an erectile dysfunction thing like that's fine but like you need to let me in so we can get this out together but if you don't want that and you don't WanNa date me and you just this isn't you want like that's fine but just let me know so I'm not wasting my time. 'cause it's sounds like if you you guys are just friends. No truly sounds like straight up just friends and then also at the same time if he's like a virgin not to like not that year not awesome inaugurate or whatever he he also like. It's you can be a version and then like still be okay being virgin. Maybe he doesn't WanNa like have sex now. Maybe not ready for that or anything like that but you have to have have that conversation otherwise like you might be waiting around for someone who is never going to see you in that way and then you're kind of like waiting for him to get to where you are and he's not going to get there Not Not that. I'm saying. Give him an ultimatum. But I think you are at the two month mark at its yet because I think if you're not having I don't think you need to define a relationship after two months but I think if you're not having sex like that's a mind fuck you're like are we just friends or are we dating and yeah come at it from a compassionate place but also know that like you don't have it. You're on a bad person. This is a deal breaker for you. Yeah get back on tenter seems like working for you. You export your sexuality that means means but hey I also think that like I don't know I have a lot of friends like if they go on like one good day or start seeing someone who's good they put all basket and they don't go on anymore dates even if they're not exclusive with that one person and I think that's such like a mistake because that's how you get tunnel vision and like for me. I've always been the opposite of being like. Oh No no if I start seeing someone or start liking. I'm GONNA date as many people as possible. It's like make sure I actually really like you and not even like in like Oh i WanNa keep my options open kind of way but I think a lot of people do that and it's kind of Nice to be like. Oh okay. I'm doing this too. I'm not getting so invested and then you might be like. Oh I've had friends who've done gone on dates with someone in the went went really well and they were like okay. I guess I should go out with other people with other people and they're like oh I like this other person so much more. I like this person again. It was like this person was just better than the other person they ended up steadily can going barrier. There's plenty efficiency as they say the world is dying and it's on fire and fishes and everything's dying bite light. Theoretically to radically there are plenty fish. Do you think plenty of fish. Just like change their name because of global warming I mean who's actually still on plenty of I dunno farmers only I remember those is still because Google you know how they have the ads targeted. I'm getting targeted. I don't know I just saw it yesterday. I was like why am I crazy Eh. That's so funny. Yeah before was meal kit delivery or meal delivery services. Now maybe that maybe it's like farm-to-table farmers only that's got they're like. Hey you got sustenance. Now we'll get you a man that's still Well best of luck Yeah I say get back on those apps me too if you actually. I don't think you actually like. I don't think they do project if you actually like in work through it but if you don't move on and also if he actually likes you yeah like love you but like now now like you got to figure that out or work. Oh Yeah Oh yeah and also like if you won't touch you might do like what I'm saying. Happy if he is actually interested in he knows that sex is important to you and he should be selfish. I hated that where it's on. Oh Yeah can't my tummy. Girls Give blowjobs on their periods. Yeah and they're like if they're not having I mean it's like Oh my mind can have sex with you but like I'll give you a low job. I literally think back to like high school. Goma Mike what the fuck do I was cramping pain being like. I'm so sorry fucking dumb. It is dumbed should have been getting yours too. I know Oh that would have been. I don't I don't like some people do like but it's actually like it's supposed to help. I think I would like it on like I mean I could have told you. I don't think we've talked about podcast before Mazda. It has like a horror story with. Yes you did okay. Yeah So that he would. I don't think he would ever maybe a couple. He could eventually get there. But I don't know for me I know I know I in our relationship I got. It's been four. Nobody if I wanted to me like I was like. Let's put this back on the put this on the table Because if you just have to pick the very end of my period when I'm like Mia not dying. You know already feel like I'm being stabbed on stabbed with addicts Painful so ben well onto the next. I'm Megan Melissa. I guess so. I'm nine twenty two. I'm going to be twenty three and two weeks and I just lost my virginity about five days ago I had been planning on waiting until marriage up until this point and me and my current boyfriend are very serious. They've been talking about marriage and things just happened. I don't regret my decision at all. In fact I'm actually really happy with with it and I found out that I really enjoy best. I've only done it one time but it's something that I look forward to doing again and learning more about an experienced team in west and things like that. My question is for you. How do you balance a normal workplace with like school or a job? I worked fulltime but my boyfriend. He works fulltime and he's in school. And unfortunately we worked pretty opposite work schedules. I work Monday through. Friday is work is normally Evenings he offered at midnight sometimes and he has a sporadic work schedule because of his school. So the time together where either. We're really tired or he's working on school or things like that and I just feel like we don't have a lot of times for intimacy and that kind of worries me because I know intimacy is a huge part of any relationship and it's something that I've expressed to him that it's really important to me not like because I've only had the sex one time and it was with him at all very new to me and it from Nice super tried it out learn more at out and especially running more about with him. But I just don't know how to manage a busy workplace or like an adult life and like an adult sex life because I've never. How'd that up until this point and I'm only twenty two almost three and I just feel like a child like I don't know I just feel like I'm an adult now but I also ah I've nothing to figure it out? Yeah I just wanted to know what your advice would be on bouncing a sex life and intimacy in a relationship as well just like every day a normal things that adults have to do think you that one different direction and I thought it was gonna go thought she was going to be like. Yeah I have to work as afraid. They just want sex all the time like this. What do we have the the necklace? That's named Okay I think first of all not to be all like new agey or whatever but I think like intimacy like yes with the partner but I think also I don't know if you've explored explored like masturbating all that stuff but I think like that's also a huge part of intimacy and that's also I think a huge part of like being an adult and being in a relationship. Should someone if you are busy like you're going to get your own shit done and like spending time together and like having those intimate moments that's great but I'm like I'm not GonNa stay up late until midnight. Bonia myself off when I get home from work like in that kind of away but I think like sometimes like schedules are sometimes. You have to like fuck up wake up early and have mornings like it's a sacrifice on either persons and for when you WanNa do it And like sometimes like I I mean you should only ever they do it if you're in the mood like both parties but like sometimes it'll be like a you wake up and it's like heavy nearly I'm tired and then you're like no actually. It's like the computer tech talk really well I can do this now. Yeah so I think well I think that's like part part of it but I think also having like just scheduling a date night like once a week I think is great. I mean we're not great at that we've gotten so so much better and also like his. Both of our jobs stuff has kind of shifted a lot so we have more of a align schedule but like for a while it was like okay. We'll burn make surely one night neither the weekend or the week. That's going to be like date night. This is what we're going to do and that kind of thing and it's going to be like fun and great but also both of you do have to make that sacrifice take time my sister the original Megan in my life yes Fifteen figured number two she. She worked nights and her husband works during the day and they have sex you can make us lake close. It's like it's like one one. Stay up a little later get up a little earlier and they just keep the door closed and go at it. That's what you gotta do. Yeah it's it's it's just like the it's not GonNa be oh he's GonNa go into work late so it fits with my schedule. It's not gonNA fit perfectly with both of your schedules etchells. It's going to be like a a word fits it fits but then I think if also understanding that like because the first time that you've had sex you're also just discovering like like because I think your sex drive I think in obviously they'd be related to like like how much you want to get off. And just like having orgasm it could be like Solo Sola partner time but I also think there is extra aspect of like with your partner Leeann eating someone else and not just you think your just figuring that out right now and learning Ernie Matt. I don't know if he you were his first as well. And if this is you guys kind of like figuring that out together because maybe one of you does it need need like intimacy like we have to have sex every like two three times a week. I'm cool with getting myself off. And then like once a week we can hook up and so I think you have that conversation with him and be like what is your. How many times a week do you? Ideally like want to have Saxon do this kind of stuff and I think if you make the She doesn't know yet. Oh she asks him if he he like she figures that out and then from there just know that like if you WanNa get married and spend the rest of your life together like you don't have it there's no rush like you can like take it slow like it doesn't have to be like okay now that we've had sex. We have to do it all the time. I also feel like he has to be a little bit experience because like you seem to have had the right time she he might also have Oh lucky bitches But also like like just addressing the intimacy thing I heard about the will like people do it. But there is a term for skimming where you just Kinda like similar the relationship. Asian ship like you start like in the morning when you get up you just do little sexy like kiss on the NYC and then like rubbing in sin like like texts just of text and pictures throughout the day in them by the time you get home. You're like yeah like you're just like ready to go. That's a good. I I liked that. Yeah it's nice thing would be mad at me if I sent him. Like dirty tax came to shut the fuck up right now Yeah I think and also like when it comes to like balancing like everything in your life I think just open communication especially like you guys are doing you sound like you're going through life and all that that kind of stuff like together and I think like the hardest thing Becoming like I totally understand what you mean right like being kind of fake adult and like just learning everything is It's like expectations and like setting your expectations and different way. Like being let down and disappointed in feeling overwhelmed but the way to do that and to prevent that kind of stuff is just like talking to him. So if you have an idea of like oh we're GonNa have fun like date night tonight. But you haven't told him and then he's like oh I'm GonNa work late tonight and it can be all that but I think the more communication that you have Sexy like you'll be able to like you'll be able to get it all done and also there's not like sometimes things are going to be like spontaneous. It's going to be like oh it's morning morning. We both woke up early. I come in the mood. Let's hook up and it's the other times of being like yeah like given the situation and like let's literally plan for this to happen. The as I want this to happen but both are good It's just GonNa take some figure it out and you sound like a girl who's got like three agendas and yeah it's like I feel like you're going to be fine. Yeah you'll be great. Yeah and also I think the way to get more sex to tell your partner like how much you love having Book in God. We bless you with this dick good wet sex good wet what sex. We need it on a shirt but like no one could wear it. I know maybe we just put Gw s and then you know it means I like it if you see somebody. Then you're like get it girl or guy whoever you are But like best of luck. Congratulations on your fucking journey me. I'm so happy for so. I wish I was excited. The first armored sex I was like Oh but also you're like a little bit younger. Yeah and you you also masturbating listening and it wasn't like somebody that you thought you're like going to get married to now. I don't think yeah I mean I left left him but like two different things got to love. You have for your boyfriend when you're sixteen but yeah and also maybe trying to fuck uh-huh Jonas truly. Well congratulations on the sex protection and use that planner means to go to the next. Let's go on a low megan and Melissa. Whoever else's hello I'm drunk and that's the only way I could get myself to record this From her really long time and my whole fucking stick is that I'm so bored of being friend zone and I know that so stupid and like as a feminist. I don't fully believe in the friend zone because like I've said to to do multiple times like I don't really like you might remember them but I went through a stage. I went through sleeping around stage but my my problem is that I am dudes and those dudes usually don't like me back in a romantic way. H My fucking friend. I'm so sick of it I want to date someone I want to be in a relationship. I'm very fulfilled in my friendships. I'm very installed in my work under filled in my home life. I just kind of want to date. Someone like really really really want to feel that. Like romantic connection with someone. But anytime time I put myself out there do just fucking either shut down or don't feel the same or whatever Arab la La But I'm the girl that dude sleep with. But don't date. And that's just who. I am Sidebar bar I'm bigger plus size whatever and a lot of doesn't want to believe that that's part of it but I know that that might be that So what the fuck do. I'm so sick of being friends owned. I'm so sick of being like that girl. That dudes are friends with or get along with really well and like we left the same things we have met your family. Your family likes me Headway pass that onto a relationship That's it that's all of it. I'm sorry that I paused a lot. I love you goodbye to buy your drunk. This is nothing to you'd be like plus size at all I think your dating the wrong way I think like recognizing like your weaknesses in dating is like a great thing and I think the weaknesses here is your like. You're a great friend and you're really really cool and therefore I don't think you can date date people that you're friends with. Yeah I think that like you probably have like some really strong solid amazing like like friendship foundations and those people aren't seeing being you in that light because they see you as a friend I so I because I think it's pretty hard to get like quote unquote friend Zoned If when you start talking to someone you it's it's very much Intentionally were trying to date as opposed to like. Oh we go to school together. We've got similar for like 'cause like friends own happens before you sleep but somebody sleep with somebody and then Friend zone and so. I think it's just like like you said she's dating the wrong way or not even been dating. Are you like actually going on dates with these people are just like be having fuck religions and here's the thing I think like if you've what a high sex drive you like I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with like sleeping around at all. I think right now for you sleeping around seems to be pretty detrimental to like how you're feeling about like your outlook on data and I don't think that that's like a cause and effect for everybody at all. I think it can be like there are certain times like sleeping around It could be very empowering and fun and like but they're going to be other times where I feel like this is getting in the way from what I what I really want and so I'd say like if if you've got like if you have a friend who's like fuck buddy the and you can keep like hook up with them and then go on dates and I don't know if you have like like dating apps and doing things like that. I think like you need to meet people and like portray portray Go out there with being like. Hey I want to date not like. Hey I'm this cool girl like I'm super cool. Don't you WanNa date me like look. How cool and funding great? I am because like if if you kind of lead with just the. It sounds counterintuitive. But you've just lead with like I don't know if you don't leave with the fact that hey I'm looking today and that's what I'm looking for. I think a lot of the time people what is back. This is really cool girl who are really get along with super chill. It seemed like she wants the same thing that I do. Yeah and I think that happens a lot of the time with like again. I also agree with you. I don't necessarily believe in the friend zone zone but I think it ha- but I have a lot of female friends who like they say that this is the they go through this and I think a lot of the time that comes from the fact that like you're not being super You're just being like too much of a coup girl. You're not. You're not like saying what you want. Want unapologetically and being like if you don't want this then a cool I'm out it's being like oh I think like they're misreading your signals to and think that you guys kind of want the same thing So I would say like yeah dating apps and like actually go oh and go on dates with people and like don't sleep at them on the first day and talk to them about like. I don't know like the fact that you're saying like oh I've met these people's families and all that stuff like to to me that sounds like are these are college friends like College Guy Friends And I also think that there. You didn't say how old you are but I know I don't think she thinks she did but I think there's also an age age like range of this like in college. It was the definition in high school. Like you. Fuck your friends and that's kind of it and I think like if you're finding that lots of guys your own age are not like looking to settle down and like looking to have relationships Then maybe dating someone who's older than you know two and then also like dear friends hands have boyfriends like are you like is it like oh I'm trying to set you up with somebody else in that way but I think like you need to be. There's nothing wrong about wanting wanting to date and like wanting to be in a relationship but you have to lead that because if you go into like situations or meeting New People and you don't lead with that they that's not gonNa scare or anyone off because like there's also like every everyone there's lots of people who are looking for that who like guy friends who are looking for casual. I'm looking like find a girlfriend or like find a boyfriend. I want to date someone seriously seriously. It's not going to be a turnoff and you're not gonNA scare the purse. The right person off. I think like you're going to find the right people but I have to go about dating. Yeah and if you have dating in Apps I would like check and see like what your pictures look like and all that Lincoln of all of your pictures again okay. So I'm going to say this in a way that like I don't don't agree that this is how it should be at all. I think this is how I think men are John and I think this time men interpret something which I think they're super off basis and they're wrong and I think we should teach them but also again like you WanNa work that system. I think any photo I think if you have photos of you obviously like drunk or drinking or partying that to them scream Kulik. She's just don't for fun time. She was anything serious. Michigan does not mean that but they're dumb and if you're like with a big groups of people and it's clear that you're at a club or partying or like any pictured that's like quote unquote like Thadi or whatever again. I think people men can see that in like a totally like misconstrued wrong way and not saying like tone down your personality or anything like that but I think like if you can have your dating profile reflect how dumb guys are and what they. They need to be spoon fed to build. This crew wants to be in a relationship. Then I think that's a great thing. I don't think that that would be also. Don't settle for you. Meet a guy who's like super buttoned up and it's like very Mary not like what you want. Yeah but I think like yeah I I mean like when I was redoing. All my friends dating Profiles we're taking down all the pictures of like you on a table the dancing. Because I'm like you want a boyfriend like this is like and also like so much of the time my friends who are including those pictures. It's because they're cool guys. Love this kind of stuff and I was like well. You don't even care about this for this you're doing this is trying to You're construing something that's not actually. Yeah you at this moment in time. You're trying to be a cool girl that Mike. Why is it? It's fine. Signed have a photo of you like on a family vacation. Like there's those things are cool to in like your other interests. It doesn't have to be like. Oh this is a bikini. I have to do this. Yeah if I saw a guy like at a club holding a beer like that's not what I that's not going to be in a relationship. That's a guy that just wants to up and that seems like a lifestyle choice of ooh. That's who you are and also like for the most part a lot of people go out and party and drink and I'm gonNA assume if I see someone who has more of a buttoned up profile. But they still do that kind of stuff but like it's not like they're about it's not like hey these are like this is my quick log lied about my life. You only have like five chances to show what you're about and if one of those things that you're about his body body shots in Vegas. I'm like okay. Well let's let's all my slower on my list. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA go for that is you gotTa pull your best five picture however many pick up the mess. What's most important Porton to you? Yeah and like what was most important that your what you want in a partner because it's it's obviously like you want to be representative of yourself but it's like I don't know you want to put that forward to be like I really want someone if you if you like traveling and you really want someone who's into traveling that's what those kinds of you rock climb you haven't but somebody that's into rock climbing a poodle rock climbing picture. If you're like Hella into makeup and you don't want anyone who's into makeup don't put up a makeup pick. I mean like I'm not going to like I would i. I would put a Harry Potter picture up but I might not put up but I want anyone on a therapy. It'd be leads my I don't need you there But I think this is I think a lot of people can relate to this. I think it happens all the time. Yeah but I would just say. Why didn't your circle and change? Change the stubborn. Even if your friends like met their boyfriends or something but others like through the friend group and all that stuff it can be like super enticing but then it can just be like oh well there there might just. They're just your person just might not be there. Yeah and I think that's yeah. I think it's a it's a good way to find that. Fuck Buddy get your get get your garage. Yeah cared jolly jolly rancher like a Christmas. I'll never heard that. Get your jolly. Yeah sounds like like starts starts like John Denver Song I get your rallies them But best of luck. I do love that you I I also feel like I'm really sorry by like really came out. You feel like the drinking thing just because you call his drunk. I love it I love. It was a good time. Yeah still no one beats that time that one guy called Golden League drunk in the back of November. I think that we do you do how are you doing boy. He's Oh that's true. He has Well best of luck Let us know how it goes. I have high hopes. If you can like to reformat and restructure how you go about dating. I think you'll see that it's not a problem at all. It's just like who you're surrounded by. Yeah Okay we're GONNA take a quick break right back. Support from today's show comes from hinge hinges the only dating APP that's designed to be deleted there no gimmicks timers or games instead every match begins by someone liking or commenting on a specific part of your profile. That way you can meet meet your most compatible matches and have unique conversations over what you've shared on your detailed profile. No wonder it's sedating out for people who want to get off dating apps and now hint has launched. Its own podcast. It's called go stories and it's about making dating more honest. Hinge brings people together one who goes to the other and ask them to be transparent. 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At Duke Canon Dot Com and use the Promo Code blamed for fifteen percents off your entire order plus free shipping with orders over thirty five dollars. All all products are also available at your local target guys back from our break in working to get into the rest of the calls us in I'm twenty two fold and I am calling for some French fries so I always have falling out with my roommate. Who has been one of my friends just freshman year college we live together are your year and really have dare problems? cohabitating eating but vegetation she's urging me kind of cultural actor stand offish and just say here you know. We're spending too much time together and her Christians say so. I just wanted to somewhere but later I tried talking to her about it. And she's actually told me that inch over and they'd always false accusations and about my character When we trying to fend myself kind of you know give me real explanation? But I was trying to move past this. They're both recently and our mutual friends or reading where she was saying. Honor and I was surprised me and let me tell you. This girl is such a bad mood of honor shows an hourly shower. Getting comes Bachelor party but but I plan by the way didn't come to the hersal the rehearsal dinner and you until late in the day at the wedding and that the reception. She was sitting in the corner in the whole time with miserable. Like she wanted to give yourself And I kinda thought everyone down down So the bride and the whole route probably work visit her but you know what did he say anything to her because it was the wedding. What are we supposed to do and they haven't really torn the Brian any other drama yaks didn't want our petty drama to ruin her wedding. You know her special day but alerted Taylor. How crazy this girl and You know tell her. She deserves a better friend than this girl. Who put in any effort to you? Know like the most days of her life. That's what I WANNA have. My friends have to pick sides between us So I guess my question is should I tell her all the crazy he drama and you know ball out or downplay it and say you know we just apart So Oh I don't trust us and twenty four things guys by no. I mean. She already knows that she's not a good. The Friendship Blade to her wedding. Yeah all the other stuff that led up to it and your all of your friend group essentially solve it. You don't need to do anything she'll dig her own grave. Yeah and the only thing that like talking shit about her will do is make you look bad like truthfully make vengeful. Because she's already like dumped you. He was a friend. Yeah and it's GonNa be like a will and if she's not talking shit about whoever's talking Shit looks looks at and like if she's talking shit about you then she already. He looks bad. She's already doing it. You don't need to do it doing it herself. But she's not talking shit about you. They've already seen these kinds of cues that she's like kind of like a bitch and like not great a great friend at all and then it's going to be kind of like no and like when you start talking about her. It's just GonNa be like then you kind of become the villain like it's just not on a good position to be in and like as much as I think like for you. It's like regaining power friendship and I'm sure like you probably feel like isolated and lonely and awkward and your friend Group Group. I totally get that but at the end of the day like people who actually really care about you and Wanna be your friend. You're not going to have to ask them to be honest side or choose sides they're gonNA see which which side they should be on was the morally right thing and they're going to be there for you but if those if your friends aren't stepping up to the plate I don't think you like like handhold them to to be like well. Please get on my side because they can see the evidence is there. That just means that they're not as attentive in like they might not be great friends for you You shouldn't have to like I don't know come clean about that kind of stuff in order for people to care about. Yeah and also like for you when you said that you couldn't defend the things that she's saying she she wasn't trying to like have a conversation she was just ending at you trying to end it and it seems like she's the one with the issues if she's not being a good friend into anyone so maybe she needs to just work through her own stuff and just let her be like just. Don't interact with unless you have to. Yeah and I think like you. I don't have to necessarily like downplay it or like. Tell the whole truth or anything like that. Just don't bring it up. If someone asks you what happened you could be like. Oh I don't really want to get into but I don't WanNa talk bad but like yeah like we're not friends anymore like to say there's two sides to restore yes not friends anymore and just pick I really like. It's not my place to talk bad about her. Like I'm not about that. And then that like it shows that like hey you're mature person. WHO's above it but you're also not like denying it or being the call? We grew up like just saying that. You don't have to elaborate any any more than that and I get in. It's totally hard. I definitely went through college and I got dumped by my friends. I was like trying to get anyone else. We're going please. And everyone's like Oh sure cool. I was like Oh you don't care and it's like Oh if you don't care then like why do I care so hard about making you care 'cause like then the only reason you care is because I've made you that way like when you should just either feel that on your own or they don't The I think even next year friends get married at doubt. This girl we abides main. Yeah in that way. So she was the bride's the maid maid state of honor so weird. Yeah she was a good friend at some point. Yeah and also as much as you have shit with our. I'm sure the bride fuck in has Majett it with her and like if she wants to like vent to you and come talk to you about it like then. That's fine and like if you guys want me to do that to get like if she wants to back I need to fuck invent and like you can listen and be there but I would just stay away from being like vengeful because there's nothing you're going to get out of it and like there's truly nothing like as someone who loves like revenge and getting even like the only thing that makes you care more. Yeah because the other person clearly doesn't give a shit and also like you said when you're like she wouldn't let you defend yourself. She was dumping a friend. She wasn't trying to make amends or try and make things work at all. Like she was just cutting off being done which I think is probably a blessing in disguise to? She seems like she's got a Lotta Shit figure out on. But but yeah I mean I feel like you were actually in a great situation like the fact that the wedding happened. Everyone got to see it without you having to do you have to like lean back and just like I knew it. I knew by fuck another deal with all of it would have been something if she would showed up and been like so fake. And you're like yeah and everyone. I love her so much is such a good friend. And you're like no. She's not right like I. Think Karma Karma is doing. It's doing its job it's happening. You don't need to do anything plus the hands off. That's such a like a more fun like you just have popcorn popcorn. The coroner's like watching it all happen as opposed to like have no skin in the game you to think it's the way to go but Sounds fucking crazy. Yeah pay attention to your actual friends friends. Yeah spend time with them. Yeah one hundred percent And I really want us with these wedding pictures look like do you think mugging and like being like bitch in the photos. Jarash is like the speaker smile. Oh my God you're she might not even made it to the pictures imagine. Oh my God I hi yeah. That would've demoted her. She demoted first thing. Yeah I'd have been like you out bitch somebody else will you really you you through the Bachelorette party you should have been the one that Yeah this is ridiculous. I would want to throw all of my own stuff when I got married though. I don't trust anybody like if he just battling not fun and like cringing. Yeah I'd just like I do it myself or Jerry. Jerry plan stuff. But she also laid aneurysm aneurysm. You wouldn't let Sydney to fuck no talk. No I love so much. But she's just like happy with anything and like I've told you the extended Christmas is is this praising it's wonderful and then she'll show me and I mean it's not really her taste and it is pretty like ugly but like it's so sweet no funding. Because he's just so nice. Yeah we're versus. Jerry hates everything which would be great. But I'll slip. She's a Virgo Jerry. Yeah she's a virgo but she would go gray like she would like ripper ripper hair out but in like I think she would probably enjoy it she. She wanted to be wedding planner for a long time. Okay now she's doing real estate. Go by hustling same. uh-huh truly type of personality. You have to have to have. Yeah look so cute with her. Like Hello Baratz nor hair. Little flipped out in her like Nice little sensible heels and loafers and her pink Blazers fucking adorable. She goes to the next one. Let's do it again else's there Thank you you sound like you might call So I'm high school. I'm senior and I took like a prep school boarding school in east coast And there's like a very environment I guess concerning boys and stuff and like I've been having sex for two years and I've always just guys treat me like Shit. I'm trying to kind of come to terms with that now and I never really like when I lost my virginity. I love someone I didn't really know and unlike been having casual sex for here I've never been in a relationship. Wish this guy that I is known for being the biggest haunt my entire school. He's like remember them for my whole life and we started having sex last year and I think for either. He's like really big and really mean and I just always really treated me badly. So we thinking when he went on vacation a month ago and then there's this new junior who's repeated came to my school recently and she's like really hot and he a lot of people wanted to get within like my friends did too but no one really knew that well and so I like hot on him I was like you WanNa hang out this weekend or whatever so we hung out super super is he live not gonNA catch. Everything was fine and We started like he offers library every day. A lot and Talki- lot when I realized like he just kind of wears me out a little bit like his music is very unique and he wears very unique clothing. I guess that is different than all the other guys. Another possible Dada. Aw It's just like a lot of people think he's weird and so I started talking to him which is horrible. Do and we we like stopped talking for you. Exclude them onto rumors. Going around about like who. Who and what we said and I don't know what to do because tonight is it's going to get something from talk so long and I was in his car and we you know look at each other and we have accent and I don't know I don't know if I should tell because he thinks we're exclusive? I haven't talked to him in a while and I just don't know what to do like should I stay with him either. Money offers me out. 'cause he's the first guy that treated me nicely or should I end it. Thank you bye today agree. I'm not joking truly we do. Yeah we're GONNA drive diagram for this guy's because this is really fucking confusing. Also you name dropped. Both of those guys will bleep it out but we just have to like get this okay. So she call her Blair Serena I'm feeling watched but which one is. It's like a Sabrina. Probably 'cause like Serena Oh my God. We'll call the weird one Dan because he lived in Brooklyn honestly these prep school problems. They also like so expensive. It is Malta's friends who like went to prep school all that Shit. I can just tell like Cardigan tied around like the top of their shoulders. When you bugging loser okay so okay? So who's this Serena can in case you're not following this is from from WanNa call the whisper show gossip girl. Okay so Serena's the caller So Serena China was hooking up with nate nate. Big Amendment would lean or lean. We don't know just put both okay so lean slash meat. Then Dan Weird but nice nice and then bad kisser and Bat music tastes ooh bad music and dresses weird. Oh yeah weird clothes but like you didn't know that he was wearing weird. It closed before you had sex with him hot junior so he was like the hot new junior and then he was a senior and she's a senior to okay. So but here's the thing so Serena when Dan I came to school everyone was talking about here saying everyone was being like. Oh Wow who's this hot new guy like who's ever going to be into bubble Bob so then you hooked up with him but then now everyone else all those other little people. Aw are talking about like Oh. He's so weird. And now you're saying these weird yeah and then also like when there's like a new piece of meat eat everybody's GonNa be into him because you've been so used to seeing a because you don't him forever. Yeah you've known him all your life you've been so used to seeing the same dudes. Yeah so anybody new coming into the situation it's just gonNA be by default the hot new of trump and he's got he's mysterious 'cause you don't know him yet yeah. So here's here's the thing I think you you you like how do i. I was GONNA draw sex but I don't know how to dress ex. You had sex with both of them. Okay which is fine. But here's the thing you en- Dan Damn fought you guys. That works lucid. Yeah and then you fought state which presumably my mind went to. Was it in the back of a car like his car so I think you fucked him in a car. Yeah like you were like who in the US ended up fucking. Yeah so I think regardless of the whole like like this is a messy fucking situation but I think like I mean I say screw nate sound Dick big unless he was lean name Leanne. I'm for it but if you who's meeting me no no you know and then Dan it doesn't sound like you like him at all. No and you already thought you cheated on him with the except you're not even really considering that you actually dated. I personally think and it would dan you. Don't I have to tell him like. Oh Hey by the way. I felt like I wouldn't tell him that as a reason and also because like if you don't see yourself as exclusive and he did not on the same page eh cheating. It's great it's a great area and you're just going to hurt him by telling him that so I say fuck all that. Don't do that like get some friends who are potentially nice. Don't make fun of Weird your kids anymore just because you guys are have like so much money and you're at prep school. I mean like he listened to weird. He's vampire weekend will lose her her. He doesn't like to rate with a loser. Also your a senior so I say does do what you WanNa do like Simone GonNa. That'd be oh you got one more semester say find find other people that you WanNa have sex with and then have sex with them and screw these ones. You've already already been there. You only have a small amount of time left get like so your seed cloud oats. Don't like Brad Pitt up a wrap appetite one hundred percent. Oh yeah that is what that means for. Sure wrap it up like Hook people that you want to hook up with that like do that is ailing. Don't go back to like the old stale sort of things and I would also like. Yeah just like have fun like sleep around have fun hook up with people but like Oh also which was the Virgin Dan Dan. No I think she took. Oh I think she took nate's virginity a virgin. Probably Dan to probably Dan too because he's younger weird music had weird set. Yeah he got attach a real quick. Oh Yeah it's high school two okay I yeah I fuck like just stop with these both these boys. I think it's a waste of your time and you're just like also like do you just like the drama seems seems like it and you went up for the guy that ever was talking about sneaky about. I like the way you went about it. You're like he's GonNa be mine. Snap chatted here and now now everybody's talking about him. Yeah that is still thought it was a little ghost pacman. But they're both goes yes. Yeah you're snap shutting him and then you. I think you kind of like you got what you wanted out of it and then you're done now and now you don't want people to know about it and also okay then who cares. Besides that's like not like it like shore which does make me think that mates probably mean not lean because we were so happy that Dan was actually nice to you. And here's thank stop having sex people who are media. Yeah just stop doing that. Like we all do it and like it's not fun and it's not fair and like you think that like there are not people who are going to be nice you who will also so have sex with you plot twist most of the time people who you have sex with will probably be nicer to you because you're having sex with them but there was like this small time period in your life in which like you will just if you've been conditioned only like sleep with the same group of people and you've been with the same group of people and you all just kind of treat each other like like shit like that's when you have sex with us us. She doesn't seem like she's very nice to begin. No you don't seem very nice either but I think we can learn that for you in college unless you're going to Harvard or Yale and made a job. We're your parents paid your way. Unlike this. She's Agassi Okay for sure. I'm just better because I wasn't born rich. It's my biggest regret I think we just dropped this. I think like don't contribute to talking shit about Dan no like. Dan Did nothing Dan and pursued him. You know what have you seen that. Talk where it's like if I I fall in love with a dangling haired If I felt with a dangling earring wearing floppy-haired Ibo that's on you. This is on it. Is You did this until you can't participate in making in front of him like anything like that also basically cheated on him So I say remove yourself in the situation and like just focus on like being a better person and also surrounding yourself with with like people who treat you nicely. So you're not then like blinded by the one guy who's like nice to you and you're like wow he's so special like he's not that special like But I think since. She's a senior in high school. It's she probably already knows everybody's addicted like you can't you. What by the time? You're a senior. It's very very hard to remove yourself from situation but this is your at the time where like I was just like fuck it. I'm a I'm a hook up with. Whoever I fucking want that will? She's been doing that. Anyway that's true but maybe you need to. Maybe maybe let's just focus on being nice then. Let's just dancing. Because he also has had his whole senior and you're going to be gone and like don't make it hell for him. Yeah and and it's GonNa get out like because you should about him. It's probably going to get out that you were the one that slept with him. Yeah so don't just don't even join or even if you want to be a solid person and just be like. Hey I do they tell him. Like Hey I think I see you as more than a friend and until your friends again we hooked up. He was great he was phenomenal. It was amazing like greatest exit. Ever had yeah look at doing him a massive solid. So would you like to join our patriotic. Give us money because you go to prep school. So I'm assuming you have. Some got house is going to work perfectly willing to make a gospel. I don't remember how it ends. Oh you know you love me Echo. uh-huh xl gossip girl Christabel. I know I'm just going to say I was going to say whatever her character name is on the good place. Plays with Eleanor. Eleanor News and Old Lady Lane. So okay guys now. I don't blame them. And this is when you guys call in with with your own advice for previous callers undefined episodes. So what do we got to play the tape roll tape. It's from episode with us so fuck. Yeah Hey Megan. I'm calling for John to your most recent Eminem podcast where there was a girl and I. You D wasn't like like performing. And then she got pregnant and then they can get the iud out and then she had surgery and then a lot of money and stressful situations situations later. And I have a similar experience Not in the sense that I had. I got pregnant but that I got misdiagnosed. Snows- kind of thing Basically what happened was I. I have this new thing where I asked out a bunch of the past couple of years and it's been happening for a very long time and then one day. I just was feeling really dizzy and stuff and just like I call. I call my mom and and she was like call the nurse line at the hospital and I called the nurse line and basically my symptoms were busy. I couldn't really see all that well like. I hadn't Komo numbing on my face like my cheek and I was nineteen at the time and believe. He told me he was like you. Were having a stroke like call nine one one like have them take you. Then I call my mom like crime so I was like mom and having stroke. And she's like you're definitely not having a stroke so we went to the emergency room and I got a fifteen hundred dollar medical bill to tell me that I have syncope so I get dizzy sometimes. and to give me dizzy pills and they sent me home and I was tested on it and I'm taking a different person probably should but my mom worked for that set hospital For years and years and basically she told me to just pay the bill and now and I'm so bad but honestly it's kind of the thing like it's been a couple years now and they haven't tracked me down for it. I'm not saying do the same thing but I'm saying that like maybe like hide it and kind of be like this was their fault and like See what they can do for you and like I mean gene in my opinion that kind of sounds like something you could do for. I don't know a hundred percent. Don't quote me not but like that's a lot of stress for like something that could have been prevented and that's just malpractice. So yeah well I'm GONNA podcast love. You is All right bye. I don't WanNa get into like the legalities of it just because we can't know dot lawyers but someone commented on I think the video or something and said that like they wish I could see working. Well Michael that they work in Like a they're an attorney or a lawyer or something like that and that there is a substantial case in there again. I can't give you any legal advice. And also in these situate in when when people call in and we don't give legal advice in God give this. We can't like like Leela make us liable exactly and so we're not lawyers. Yeah and so. If you're like a lawyer like watching and listening to our podcast can you hear and like we're not saying something like that. Then please feel free to comment on Youtube and like tell them as someone who is a registered lawyer because you can on say that we can't Doesn't mean that like we're not thinking but it's just we can't legally say that So I think like it's a I think this is like a yeah. I agree like where it's like. This definitely sounds it. Sounds like regardless just doing research and doing some googling again I also think like I don't know it's like the same thing with like any sort of That's also really hard like it's also really hard financially and time wise. If you don't have the support from like other people it can be like a complete shit show and like tracking tracking your name through the mud like all of that stuff like it can be like pretty rough and just like a lot of time and energy to like if it's not something that you choose to that's also okay but also like I think there's never any harman like looking into like or talking to a lawyer and being like hey like even to quit google search of being like is this is people had cases like this and then yeah having a consultation the lawyer to like find out something that you WanNa fight. I think like fight where you felt like why not. Why not do it? Take a crazy chance. That's crazy I can't even imagine so you went to the Er see this is why I didn't WanNa go to the ER. Because I was like I know I had a seizure. But I'm not going to the fucking but God I can't even imagine them being like. Hey you're having a stroke over the phone. Yeah well guys. That's it for our episode. Yeah hope you all enjoyed. If you want to be on an upcoming episode you can give us a call at three one zero six four zero nine seven six and international listeners. You can send US audio. File a Meghan PODCASTS AT DOT COM and we love you guys so much you please don't send us teams asking of like things that just call in call and also if you think like if it's too long and you're worried about it write it down and then time herself saying and then cut it down sound like everyone can get help guys. We got a fucking girl to tell us about. She fucked three brothers in this time like there is nothing to be. We drew a diagram. There are things are not like it'll be fine. 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Men in Black: International (2019)

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16:52 min | 1 year ago

Men in Black: International (2019)

"Hello, everybody, and welcome to another dish of bald movies tonight. Jim ni- set out to see the latest installment of the men in black franchise, Minna, black international starring Tessa Thompson, and Chris Hemsworth. And a bunch of other people. It was directed by f Gary gray, who you may recall directed the comedy Friday. Then went on the direct set. It off the negotiator the Italian job be cool straight outta Compton. And then the most late lately. Most latest, latest film, the eight fast and furious faded furious. What did you think I guess, what's your overall kind of familiarity of the minute lack franchise? What did you think of this one? What's your thoughts? What's your thoughts, your thoughts? I've definitely seen the first one a few times. I know I've seen the second one is there a third one. There is definitely a third. I don't know that I've seen that one. It doesn't seem like you need to have seen any of these honestly. Yeah. It would help if you saw men in black one. Uh-huh. Because you've kind of get a lot of background on the men in black. And you understand you'll have a shorthand for some of the stuff they're trying to explain to you. But I don't think it's necessary. I thought this movie was okay. Yep. It felt like men in black say that much from the music to basically Chris Hemsworth trying to be Wilson with. Uh-huh. It felt like a men in black movie, and that's not a bad thing. But it's also not the best thing in the world. I think men in black is goofy. And in some good ways, I like a lot of their creature design most of the time. And the way they use creatures is pretty interesting. And sometimes funny and this movie has a lot of that. I just nothing really hooked me the comedy. There were a couple of good jokes in there that hit me. But there, there are a lot of them and it's not a good batting average. Yeah. But overall okay better than last week's movie. I'll say that dark Phoenix was for me. Yeah. Yeah. This, this was just a just a fun movie. It's going to be completely forget -able. Yep. It is coasting on a lot of charm by Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson, who I did this. Did they get together on the set of like Thor ragnarok, and be like, you know, we haven't seen in a long time in black, and we're just the people to bring it back. I mean. Yeah, fine. That's, that's cool. But, but yeah. It's, it's just okay is just okay. The creature designed was really good. I like that. I was really. You know, as I sit down to watch the movie, and making them kind of in the mood for some kind of light fund thing, and, and the just turn my brain off and enjoy this, and then, like, when the Columbia Pictures logo came up and Annette inventing put on the shades and got out the neuro lies on. I ha it's pretty funny. And then you get this, like foggy kind of Paris sets on my house, kind of reminds me, a lot of, like some of the middle Harry Potter's. And then there's some JAMES BOND field to suits in the gadgets. And I just kept on waiting for the plot to like, get that next level boost, and they're trying to do some complicated things, but everything is so paint by numbers, and like the red herrings or screw like painted red paint printing on them. Yeah. Like, as their introduced, it's like, nah, nah. And then just like I said that there was a little bit more complexity to to the plot. They established like a little bit more relationships between the characters so that, you know this stuff landed. They. You know, they try to have these twist at the end like in the first one and the fact that the Tommy Lee Jones, rated retiree hates this like he's got his mindful of all his bad alien shit. And it's going to it's going to be a real passing the torch they try to do something kind of like that. But they just haven't you had a whole film, at least a the build up, Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith chemistry and their relationship and here, it's like they tried to do a fast track version of will Smith's, like recruitment and they had a nice little story hook Rome. Like I wonder how they're going fast forward through this, and I'm like, oh, that just this, this clever hook the explain all that. But it just like I said, it's just never quite caught fire. Yeah. They lean pretty hard on the men in black. That's come before this. Like you said with the relationships, especially I feel like I understand the relationship between. Liam Niessen, and Chris Hemsworth in this movie intuitively, because I've seen men in black one and I understand, like in this organization. Here's the types of relationships that exist. And so, I think they, they do pretty well in that regard. But I, I ended up like like an I mother last week just this Friday I figured out the plot twist. Yeah. Moments into the movies seconds into the movie, and you know, it doesn't totally ruin experience. I still had some fun with it, but I just kept waiting and wedding, what are they going to reveal? Right. And that's the sucky thing is like, I think they should've just leaned into, like, you know, not have the care to go in blind. I'm briefly. Hey, there's something Hanky going on here. And you're going to have to figure it out. And then it's like there's this kind of tints. You know, a poker game going on throughout the movie about whose loyalties can you trust? And they do that. Mean you know, that's, that's pretty good shit like game of thrones had really tight six seasons just on that engine. You know. And they tried to play it like, I don't know. I they tried to play it like well, like, is there this, and they show. But don't tell that there's a, you know, kind of some of it should have worked. I guess better than it did. But it just I like I said there, there's something missing I think, what that thing was is just our connection to the characters like they into a lot like there. I wonder what's on the cutting room floor because they they're felt like there's something more to, like, emit Thompson, and leeann Niessen. Yeah. I felt like all of these characters were sort of. Undersold me the relationships between them. And this felt like a very short movie. I don't know how long it actually is. I yeah. Yeah. That's what they left is another twenty minutes. That's was. That was what was missing. Yeah. The other thing is like, do you think that it's possible that cube Camille non Johnny was like a late minute? Addition, last minute addition think so, because it's like this is kind of like this reminds me of like the judge Dredd thing with sly Stallone, I don't know if this is actually true or not. But I've always maintained that, God, who the hell is that rob Schneider talking? If the rod Schneider was actually a last minute addition because sly barely interacts with, like three or four Lott. He's in a lot of the movie, but he's only in, like three or four lines of dialogue. And it's almost like the got this movie is kind of shore, and it wasn't funny enough. Let's, let's get fucking rob Schneider in here and make the movie shittier now. That's not what happened with Camille. But a lot of like if you take out the one scene where he gets, you know, he, he gets incurs his life that detests a and you take out a couple of connecting scenes where she had knowledge is that he's sitting on his shoulder and he's not really in the movie. He just rides on his shoulder. Does I don't know. He's, he's a big set piece at the end. Maybe I'm making a big thing of it. But I just felt like there wasn't any real reason for him to be there other than comic relief. Yeah. I mean, there were a lot of jar jar banks type moments in this film. Yeah. Where a character is there solely to laugh at or to make a joke? I think Camille. Character is kind of all of those things at once he he both sticks at two characters and also gets stuck to him as well. So I, I enjoyed the character, but yeah, it doesn't it didn't feel very consequential. Certainly I like this design all the creature designers really good. Oh, yeah. Men in black has always been great at that. Yeah. Of ways to use different alien types. Yeah. And they the transforming cars and the guns that are more than meets the eye and all that is that, that all works. Well. I don't know. Do you want to do you have anything more non spoiler to say? It's, it's this thing I don't understand what's going on rotten tomatoes because like this thing is currently I twenty three percent on rotten tomatoes, and it's like I mean, that's just a measure, how many people like it? I get it. But like some of these things I feel like this just feels like a forty to fifty percent of the it's not going. If you're not gonna few star storm out thinking you wasted your time and money, but you're going like two weeks from now wonder how why did they do like in, you're not going to be able to remember because now I found myself wishing that I had gone to see rocket man instead because I've been wanting to see that. I thought I found myself wishing that I had gone to see the what was the Zambia movie. Oh, Jim Jarmusch the dead. Don't literally couldn't see it. There wasn't a limited release Antonetti tonight. There's, there's a couple but it's not it's still a pretty limited release. There's three or four houses shown in the Cincinnati region. So but I don't feel like I got ripped off. Off. I feel I get ripped off. It's just one of those things where it's like I'm tired of getting tired of too many forty degree days. Yeah. Feel like I've getting a lot of forty degree days from Godzilla got a forty degree day for men in black. I hope next week a Toy Story. They give me I'm ready to it. It's, it's the middle of June in Cincinnati and was like fifty five degrees today, I don't want to fuck is going on. I'm ready for my, seventy fucking degree days. Van I trust the summer blockbusters. We had in game and then nothing Pixar Pixar got it. They know what's up Pixar is doing some, some risky business. You know you had a perfect trilogy. And now you're trying to Indiana Jones, crystal scarlet. We'll see how that works out next week. Let's talk about trailers before we get into the spoiler section first up. I don't remember if you actually had seen the spit ad Astra. Yeah. You show it to me live. All right. So. Yeah. Yeah. We saw it on a small screen anymore thoughts on that. I still don't exactly know what it is about or what it's going for. But it looks cool and it's probably going to be a first run movie. Yeah. Yeah I'm interested in it. Certainly did you see a trailer for a show called blinded by the light metal think so now? So the concept of here is there. There's this Pakistani kid in London in nineteen eighty seven and he falls in love with the music of Bruce Springsteen and, and sees it as telling his imigrants tale story in this working class thing. And he's got this like strict traditional father, who doesn't, you know, the wants them to respect their cultures. And, and, you know, not lose touch with that, but he loves the boss man. Hey, and it's some kind of weird coming of age like self-discovery. I it looks it looks cool. But so the light is Bruce Springsteen, isn't that doesn't is not one of his songs or like Lear Cremona songs. No that I'm aware of. But maybe I mean, I'm not that familiar with you guys. Live line about a light up in a douche. That's very different murder in the night. I don't think that's I bring stain. But anyway, Hobson Shaw saw that trailer again. And again hook on I yes last week, I feel like I had a stroke when I saw yoursel, the black superman I completely forgot to talk about Dwayne the rock John's brothers back in there. It looks like they're doing, like, you know, traditional may ori- Polynesian style combat it. He's movies going everywhere. I mean, this movie does not give a shit, what it was, and it's they've slowed like, I'm the, I'm the frog that got boiled, the death, because they've spit, eight movies nine movies crafting, universe, where all believed the rock can lake I, although there's this, he's like, captain America, this string of semis and helicopter. And, and it's this. Yeah, I'm there. These guys are superheroes. They're comic book characters cartoon character. It's going to be a lot of fun. Do we ever talk about angels fallen? Is that the Gerard Butler? Yeah. Of the fallen areas fallen. Yeah. Has whatever. Yeah. We did. So we're not a fan of this. I say this all the time about stuff that I'm a fan of. But if I'm I, I don't know who the fans of this this series arm. Sure they exist. How pissed would you be that? They're spoiling the fact that. Gerard Butler has a father and it's Nick Nolte, like, why, why spoil that, like fifteen seconds of potential glee there reveal that, you know got like a kinda sorta? It's like they do that shit was share in dancing, Queen three whatever it was bombing me too. Like why do they why do they spoil this shit, man? It's to get people in the seats. Like Billy Dee would I need to know? I was gonna see star. Anyway, I would have been pleasantly surprised to see Billy the. I mean, that's a prime example of just having. No reason to do it. Right. Because I could see, like, oh, another city is fallen. You know, you gotta get people to see that because things like it's the third movie, I'm either going to cedar. I'm not mama Mia to you. They're excited about you're not the people that are excited about it. Don't fuck it. I don't I don't need to see Nick Nolte coming out of shot and San or are you doing? I just let me organically experience that I don't get it. Yeah. Star was a prime example of not needing to do stop fucking spoiling, your movies, Hollywood. Once upon a time in Hollywood. Have we talked about those dealer, we probably have, but this is the first time I saw it in the theater, this movie looks incredible. I mean, how could it not be look at the cast? I mean, it's, it's the director, look at the writer like I didn't like hatefully. That's fair. I didn't either and that casts looked amazing like some kind of hard, boiled, western and some kind of godforsaken cabin looked it'd be you can't miss. But this I own this, this movie just looks incredible. Yeah. I'm I'm be the film Clinton's made. I think a couple of months ago, you'd mentioned once a time Hollywood. I'm like, oh, is that some stupid, like I I don't know. And I, I wasn't into it aware wolf turns out where wolf, I mean it might still be. I saw the us hair at one point when he's playing a cowboy, I'm super excited to see Leonardo DiCaprio played this whole arc because it looks like he's going from like very famous movie star, and maybe even the journey up all the way through the dip and I'm interested to see how he plays that because he's so good with these sort of overarching characters. I'm I don't know. I'm a sucker for Leo. I like stuff and secretary Clinton tarintino. And sometimes Brad, Pitt and Margot Robbie is not bad. Yeah. Need wolf? Who Wall Street? Yeah. They, they had some chemistry. Yes. Yes. That's all for the trailers, unless you had one, you want to talk about that I didn't see at your theater because it wasn't there. As that my theatre, and this is where we leave the non subscribers the non club members. If you would like to get our sweater filled takes on all the movies that we see all the first run, bald movies. 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Best Movies of the 2020 Sundance Film Festival

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46:26 min | 9 months ago

Best Movies of the 2020 Sundance Film Festival

"Hello everyone and welcome slash on daily for Wednesday January twenty nine twenty twenty on today's episode. Were of the best films of the Twenty Twenty Sundance Film Film Festival the Slash Editor in chief Peter surata joining the spike Casas slash film senior writer Ben Pearson. Hey what's going on it writer Chris. Vangelis Sta Hello folks so Ben Kramer Back Chris you survived not just one but two point. Flights technically three because I did stop in in Atlanta on the way there so it was three plane flights. Yeah People WanNa know. How were the plane flights? They were fine. I I'm I think I'm pretty much as good as ever be with flying right now which is beyond the point where I have a complete meltdown and I just feel nervous all the time instead. So I guess that's progress I went from being like sobbing at the airport to just being like. Oh I feel awful but I don't Saab so there you go everyone. I know in the on the way back. You arrived at the airport early because you mistook your your flight time for an earlier flight time so like is it worse I being in the airport in like the dread knowing that the flights coming or does it depends so I usually like to get to the airport a little early because I had right to the airport bar and start drinking but the problem with this was wearing Utah which is a very more mini area and they actually really have you know the Philadelphia airport you can get there at like five. AM and they'll serve you whatever you want but in Utah they don't start serve alcohol until eight. Am and I actually got seven so they were like sorry. We can't serve you because I went to a place that had a bar. Bummer so this is actually the first time I didn't get liquor up before a flight so oh has also progress. I guess I know when I first started going to the Sundance Film Festival in two thousand and four The the whole bar situation was a lot different like on main street. If you wanted to go and have a drink at the bar you actually had to be a member of the bar. She had to sign up for membership. Fiend you had to have someone that was a member basically recommend you so they had this weird progress a process of like you'd go down the stairs to the spar and like there'd be a person that's a member that basically works for the bar that would sign up for your members. Oh No it was like a whole weird thing to get around some kind of like Weird Mormon laws but. I don't think that's happening anymore so I don't know yeah and also I remember back in the day at the at the grocery store. They like they had weird like versions of Beers and stuff that had less alcohol content because there were some kind of regulations because of Utah so anyways people are not listening to us for alcohol Listening to find out The best film coming up this year. Sundance Festival Is Good at is good at discovering like small up incomers that we weren't expecting to to be big things coming up not just this year but sometimes like when something something gets acquired its announce it comes up the next year just because of how long it takes to you you know you know. Just distribute a film so Those are we weren't talking about your eight favourite films that you saw at this year's Sundance film wall and I guess Chrysler's we'll go From we'll we'll build up to the the one you like the most Chris at the bottom of your list of four. What is the film it is Miss Americana? which is the Taylor? Swift documentary I went into this with no real expectations. I it was sort sort of the opening night film and I knew it was gonna be big enough that we should do a review for it so I sort of just like sure what the Hell I'll go see it and it actually turned out to be pretty in I I don't dislike Taylor swift music. In fact there are several songs of hers. I really liked. But I don't really know much about her. Beyond tabloid Loyd headlines. So this film was kind of I opening for me and it made me appreciate her as as an artist and she seems like a genuinely the good person and I was just really impressed with the documentary. It was funny it was sweet and a big part of it is really about her sort of literally growing up and when realising that she can use her her voice for things beyond just entertainment. You know. It's all about how during the primaries last year she. He realized she couldn't sit on the sidelines anymore and not get political and so she finally decided to endorse Democrat politicians because she was very very much against Marsha Blackburn. Who's from her home? State of Tennessee. Because Marsha Blackburn is a monster that's pretty big because like you said she comes from the South and I'm sure she had a large following on the right so right and there's there's like a whole scene where she sits down with Her Majesty team and they're like begging her not to do this. They're like look. If you're going to lose some are your audience that she just insists that you know. She can't sit back anymore she has to. You know she has this this powerful voice that she feels like she might as well use it so It's a pretty you know that's not to say it's like overtly political film like the politics stuff doesn't doesn't really come in till the end but I was pretty impressed with it overall i. It's well made. It's not like the best documentary ever. There's a lot of like filler scenes with are just sitting sitting around. You know being goofy but You know for what I was expecting which was pretty much nothing I was. I was very impressed with us. How honest the film is? Is it like the the. Just make her look great or is there like some some stuff that you weren't expecting them to show some signs of her. Yeah I grappled with this a a little bit I said that in my review to that like any film like this where you can tell she had you know some sort of input into it. You have to question how honest it is and how much she allowed to be shown or not. I won't say chose anything negative about her but it does present her as very human and very down to earth earth and she talks about her eating disorder which he really hasn't ever talked about before until this documentary so well. There's nothing in the movie that makes her look negative. There's a lot of stuff that just makes her look normal. which again could be all staged but it seems it seems pretty genuine to me then number before near less is a movie called bad hair it is yes? This is the second feature film from Justin Simeon. Who is the writer director of Dear White people and he made did that movie back at Sundance and twenty fourteen is where that that film premiered? And then he's since gone on to sort of adapt his own movie into Netflix series which is mostly very very good and now he's back with like a totally different type of thing is a nineteen eighty s horror thriller about a killer. We've so this Sort of up and coming assistant at like an MTV style network in Los Angeles in nineteen eighty nine is basically forced to get A. We've at this place because she is ambitious and wants to move in this company and her sort of image obsessed boss is basically saying he have to change your hairstyle style in order to climb the ladder at this company. And the we've is a curse or something there's like some sort of a mystical roll element going on here and the we've actually has a taste for blood and a desire to kill people so it's a really it's not a full. Oh blown horror movie. It's more I would say it's like more campy than full-on scary but it's a movie. That has a lot on its mind. It reminded it'll be a little bit of get out not only because it comes from an up and coming Black filmmaker but also because both of those are movies that are about forces forces which are trying to appropriate black culture and actually literally take over black bodies for nefarious purposes. And I think there's a lot of humour you're sort of Woven throughout this no pun intended there but and like a ton of references to old school horror movies. There's like a lot of Stanley Kubrick in in this movie. There's some major the shining vibes happening here not to say that this movie is on that level but just in terms of like it's very clear that Justin Simeon is very very inspired by the cinematic Landscape that has come before and it's cool to see a totally brand new type of story told from a filmmaker with such a singular voice that also pays homage in in clever ways to To some of these like you know big recognizable Horror Movies that people will definitely know of so I also want to give a very very quick shoutout to L. Lorraine who is the star of this thing and she's like an unknown actress actress. I mean I think she might have been in a couple of TV shows but nothing huge. This is her first movie role and she absolutely kills. The Castano. Thing is pretty impressive but she. He is like the center of the movie. The whole thing is writing on her and much in the same way that Justin Simian sort of launched Tessa Thompson. To start them. Back in two thousand fourteen. I would not be surprised to to see L.. Lorraine sort of get that same level of acclaim after her work here. So hopefully this will serve service sort of a A launch pad for. But Yeah I had a lot of fun with bad hair do do you know if this has distribution because I I'm looking at the list of sales I don't see this on there I have not heard that it's been picked up yet so I would not be surprised to see you know like a an eight twenty four type Pick this up because it's sort of it definitely has that kind of vibe to it to me But yeah like I said. It's very much like a a A Vision from singular filmmaker. It's like only just sending could have made this movie and I really liked that aspect of two very cool and very very good for Justin. Because I I remember back in the day where we'd go to these paramount press screenings and he'd be the guy like signing got send now his career is like taking off completely Okay Chris what is your number three movie Horse Girl Horse Girl. This is a netflix movie. Starring Allison Brie and This really Caught me by surprise because I wasn't really sure what to expect. The trailer was a bit odd to end. I I don't know what this so it. It starts off seeming like a really quirky ROM com. Where Allison Brie plays this very shy young woman who works at like a craft store and she doesn't really have any friends and one night? It's her it's her birthday so her roommate. Sort of like drags her into having fun and sort of Sethar up on a date and the date goes really well and everything is nice and sweet but then the movie starts turning really really dark and we find out that her character's grandmother grandmother and her mother had mental health problems and she starts to experience of these issues to where she she's having any like really weird dreams and she starts to get really paranoid and she also starts to experience Lost Time where shall sort of blackout and wake up somewhere. It has no idea how she got there and she starts to suspect a bunch of things. I don't want to give it away because the less you know the more interesting the movie is but it's it's very fascinating to me how this movie starts off very very light and funny almost goofy and then it gets very Disturbing and dark and IT SORTA ends up in this middle ground where it has amusing things in it. But it's surprisingly unsettling settling and I was. I was not expecting to turn out the way it did. And Allison Brie is great in this. I mean I I like her generalist actress by I think this might be like her her best performance because she has a lot to juggle your she has to be both you know funny and also playing a character who sort of losing her mind. So this is this'll be on Netflix. Very assume I think in February. So it's worth checking out there in this comes from Jeff Vienna it's how you pronounce it I believe so. Yeah and he wrote. I heard Huckabee copies back in two thousand and four and he made his direct Oriel Feature Derek. Toil debut with the movie called Josh G. which I think is a lot of years ago so Yeah interest right. He also directed life after Beth and the little hours. I don't really like either of those films so to me. This is the best thing. He's done okay. Very cool Ben What is the next film on your list. It is called come away and I think I talked about this one in our most anticipated discussion that we had a few days ago but this. This is the movie from Brenda Chapman who is a primarily known as an animation director. This is our first live action film. She was the director of movies like Prince of Egypt and unpicks ours. Oscar winning film brave and come away is a an origin story of Peter Pan and Allison Wonderland and they sort of those characters. Actors grew up as siblings in the story. And it's about what happens to them before they sort of go their separate ways and become the fairytale characters that we know and love so. I really liked this movie a lot. I think Brennaman is an excellent filmmaker. I have been waiting to see if she would jump into live action for a long time. She she's one of those companies that really hasn't done very much and every time she makes something I'm always interested but just sort of like you know there's there's too long a gap between Her on her filmography there. And I'm really glad that this movie is as good as is because hopefully it will serve again sort of a launch pad for her to be able to roll that momentum and and keep it going into into feature films but for this one I really really liked it. A lot it's got great cast Angelina Jolie David Yellow. Those do play the parents of of the three kids at the center of the story. There are three. I don't know what that means Intent could something terrible happens and one of them. I don't know All three kids kids are very good too. I think my favorite thing about this movie though is you know you might have heard me talk about. It's a Prequel to fairy tale stories. A lot of times prequels are tricky right. Like you have to nod to expected tropes and imagery that you that you're familiar with but if the movie just becomes a checklist checklist of familiar. Things the end result is awful. So come away does it basically take a page Out of classes playbook class the animated movie on Netflix Right. Now that is The Santa Claus Origin Story. And the reason I say that is because both films uh-huh really do feel like totally organic with all of those references. It's almost never almost never feel the filmmaker sort of turning to the camera and winking at you like and nudging the side like hey get it. See what we're doing here like get this reference. It's all those references are there but it's actually fun to let's see how they are incorporated into the story because most of the time they're sort of like slightly unconventional ways and just really fascinating ways and Yeah most of the fun of this movie is just sort of seeing. How all of the things that you know about these characters come to be through this This completely legally separate original story. That's being told here. So that's called come away. I don't know if this has distribution yet either but it's a really great family movie. It's I I think you know talk to your performances from everybody involved so I would not be surprised if this becomes like a big family. Hit if it gets released later this year yet doesn't have have distribution yet in America But I'm I'm guessing by the big names in this. That is going to get something somewhere so okay Chris is what is number two on your list. Number two is Shirley which is a film I talked about in our most anticipated for Sundance is from Joseph Decker directed. Madeleine's mandoline and stars Elizabeth Moss as Shirley Jackson who wrote the haunting Uphill House and the lottery in other disturbing stories and books and this was great It's it's not a bio pic. It's a fictional story. It didn't actually happen. But it draws on events from Shirley Jackson's real life and the story is about this young couple who move into the house that Shirley Jackson lives in with her husband in play biology Michael's Toolbar who's a college professor. And they find out right away that you know the this the Shirley Jackson. Her husband had his berry unconventional relationship and Shirley Jackson is not for lack of a better word. A normal person in that she's prone to fits fits of rage battle depression and she has ties where she can't get a bed and she has other ties. Were just lashes out at people. And she's a very difficult personal live with basically and The the young woman in the couple sort of is like terrified of her at first but then they sort of start to form a bond and Mean in the meantime Jackson's writing this novel inspired by a true story about a student from her husband's college that that disappeared disappeared in the end. She sort of like investigating this disappearance and I feel like if if a quote unquote normal director had made this. It would have been sort of like a stuffy fi bio-pic but just being decker. Does all this really interesting weird stuff where the cameras would never sit still and there's all these very very strange sound effects. It shouldn't be there like there's sounds like trains running by an insects and stuff that you know even when they're in houses. There's no reason to be hearing these sounds and That also could have backfired but it works very well because it sort of puts us into Shirley Jackson's fragmented head space and Elizabeth. Moss is so good which is like nothing new at this point. Everyone knows. She's a great actress and somehow she's found a way to always play a aw difficult. Troubled women always give a different performance. Like a she's you know. She's played several female characters. Who have Sort sort of fractured mental states. And she never does it the same way no matter how many times she plays that character and she so good here and I don't know I don't. I don't know how this is going to play with like a wide audience because it's such a strange movie but I I've seen a lot of critics. Love this foam. So I'm sure it's going to get acquired it at some point but it doesn't quite yet But let's go from Shirley. Sylvie Ben tell us about Soviet Love Yeah Sylvia's love is the sexiest movie. I saw at Sundance. This is a period piece. Romance takes place over several years in the nineteen fifty late fifties and early sixties and stars Tessa Thompson and rising star Nnamdi. Awesome Muga. I think is how you pronounce his name. He actually used to be an NFL football player. I had no idea about this. I'm in writing my review of this movie as we speak and I just looked into the sky and it was like wait. What and he's also produced some movies and stuff too? I've never seen this person on screen before. But he. He is so so good in this movie and their chemistry is so hot that I thought the screen would catch on fire. This movie is like it's like a throwback to really really old school like golden age of Hollywood just swooning simmering romance movies and it's about He plays as a like a jazz saxophone player. And she plays like an aspiring Television executive and they. It's sort of like a star crossed lovers story where her she's engaged with somebody else and they meet and fall in love and You know several years go by before they see each other again and then they reconnect later in life. It's a whole like Just such a The the score is a sumptuous movie. So weird where to us I think but it. That's really really what it feels like. This old school throwback that just wrapped up in this blanket of Warm Cinematography and excellent music and the the sole fullness of these performances and man it is just like an enchanting lovely movie so I don't know if this this one has a distribution yet either but it does not okay. Yeah I mean if you're a fan of movies like The umbrellas of share board for example. Like you'RE GONNA love you've this movie if it comes out. Hopefully it's GONNA come out soon because I think the performance are. Yeah like I said just really really great and the whole vibe of this movie we all want to live in this world and and listen to this incredible music and Spend more time with these characters. It's it's really really good while you've been talking about this movie I've been I've been staring at the the only still from this movie. That's been released and it has a couple on a street and it really does give you like it's such a beautiful shot and it does definitely we'll give you like La La land kind of vibes or yeah I'm excited to see this Again it doesn't have a distributor yet but that doesn't mean it won't because You know has some big people in shirts going to get out there Chris the number one film that you saw at the Sundance Film Festival. Yes and Nisa something that does have a distributor now well go. USA picked it up. And I honestly shocked anyone this up because I can't see this getting a conventional release and that is possessor the the new film from Brandon. Colonel Burke who is the son of David Cronenberg and I was excited going into it but Holy Shit this This blew me away. I I have never really seen film like this before and it it it literally just stunned me watching it the the closest I can compare this to sort of like a a horror movie inception but even that really isn't right Inter riseborough plays a contract killer. But she doesn't actually physically physically kill anyone herself. She works for this very elaborate company that has found a way to literally implant her consciousness into other people's those bodies so her they put her mind into the body of someone else and that someone carries out the murder and then kills themselves and then that's how she gets out of that person's head so it's the perfect crime because to everyone else it looks like the person she's possessing is the killer when really she's been hired to do it and it's about her being hired to go into the mine to this guy played by Christopher Abbott and kill basically this guy's entire your family debate he's about to marry this woman who's the daughter of a very rich man and it's all about that and things don't go according to plan and that's basically all say about that but the look and the feel of this film is so Incredible it's probably the the most violent film I've ever seen in my life and that's saying it's it's insanely violent to the point where the audience I saw. It was trump just like gasping every every ten seconds and I know that gives a sense that. Oh it's a gratuitously violent thing and I guess it is gratuitous but that's sort of the point because the movie is really all about Hal Andrew Arise Burr's character is trying to divorce force herself from humanity like early in the film. We see her Reunite with her husband and her child she's estranged with and she has to sort of rehearse just being human before she goes to see them because she doesn't really know how to display those emotions anymore because he spent so much time brutally murdering people. And it's it's it's just such a brutal unrelenting dark movie like there's there's not an ounce of joy in this film so if it's it's definitely not going to be for everyone and I could see this turning off a lot of people but I'm the type of person who's always looking for something new in movies. I see so many movies that there's there's almost nothing new to me when it when it comes to a film so when I sit down and watch a movie that seems completely unique and completely unlike anything I've seen before I'm I'm kind of floored and Ben can attest to this because I came back to the condo extra ended. It was late at night and I was. It's just like raving about this film. I couldn't shut up about it like before when I went to see. It was like a late showing I was exhausted and I was like all right. I'm GonNa Watch this. I'm going right back to the CONDO and right to bed and so I came back so hyped up. I couldn't sit still. I was like losing my mind talking about it. And this premiered at at the Cannes Film Festival and was Solta arclight films there which has distributed some films like a first performed. I think maybe So yeah we should be seeing that somewhere if if not if well go USA has it now I wonder if arc light just bought it for like international territories or uh-huh is that is that well go okay. Sorry Arc. Light is the international distributor for this twenty four distributed I performed in. Yeah well the thing that I was like. That's not correct but Yeah it's so confusing the world of international releases but I'm sure we'll get this at least on streaming. I can't imagine this getting like a standard theatrical release. I don't even know like if you're going to rate this film it's going to end up with. NC Seventeen I. It's dad violent. I can't imagine this getting looking are okay so the film that like from my brief look at the Sundance Lineup The one that I think I was most excited about is because it it just seems the most accessible and that is palm springs that this sold for a record amount. It beat the record by sixty nine cents. It's Olga for what is it. Seventeen point five million in sixty nine cents to beat out out The birth of a nation which came out of two thousand sixteen By the way this year and there's been some big deals Like there was a documentary that was sold for twelve million dollars. Of course it was sold to for twelve million dollars to apple. Who has you know? F you money to throw around but but It was a a film called boy state. Neither we saw that boy state now So that sold for twelve million dollars to apple in eight twenty four so they'll be coming at least apple. TV CBS not to theaters but bed. Your favorite movie of this year Sundance Film Festival Palm Springs. Yeah I'm Kinda shocked about this. You know reading a the description of the movie. I thought that you know this movie could go either way. I definitely excited about it. Because it's a it's a romantic comedy. That stars Andy Sandberg who was from the lonely only island and Brooklyn nine nine and stuff like that and Kristen Milyada who is I know her from home? It your mother. She was also in Wall Street. She's been in a bunch of stuff you definitely recognize her an and it. It was basically like the the program guide sort of danced around what this movie is actually about. But since the movie debuted and sort you've got this rapturous praise and everything I feel like I can give away the premise of the movie here especially since it got picked up by Neon and Hulu and when they market this thing they're going to have have to address the the basic premise of the movie. So yeah I guess if you don't want to know anything at all about Palm Springs skip ahead for a few minutes. But it's basically like a groundhog Diane Groundhog Day style. Romantic comedy so Peter you know you were talking about it being a one of your most anticipated movies just based on the premises the cast and location alone. But now that it's a time loop. I heard van of those yeah. I'd heard that that was one of the results excited about this okay. I had had no idea so when I walked in I was like wow. They're doing. They're doing this but that's the thing about this movie. Is it builds up to that. You know like pretty within the first like ten or fifteen minutes. That's the that's what's happening. And that's why I think this is really interesting because it takes a lot of the Well worn elements of that that genre And it tweaks them a little bit like you know most of these movies like you have to get through the whole movie before you see characters who have completely really mastered their surroundings like Bill. Murray at the end of Groundhog Day. When he's doing all that ridiculous stuff with like the chainsaw ice carving and all that or like Tom Cruise like look at the end of edge of tomorrow where he knows every single step to take on the battlefield and all that this sort of opens with that where Andy Sandberg's character has been hooked into this time loop for a long long time and he has already mastered his entire environment and he is just under the impression that nothing matters matters because he can't escape Every day he ends but he wakes up the same as before so he's tried everything he can think of to sort of escape this thing but just has settled into this life where he just messes with people and kind of like does whatever he wants and just lays around and drinks all day and then kristen mill yachties character gets sucked into the time loop with him and then things get really really interesting from there so that's the basic premise. But those two actors are so so good good in this movie. It's also a film is I mean it's it's like a laugh out loud comedy. It's Funnier than most of the studio comedies. That I've seen over the past at least two or three three years I would not be surprised if this ends up being the funniest movie of Twenty Twenty But it's also like a comedy that actually has something to say it tackles Nichols these really like profound ideas about long term relationships and how a really really terrible looking situation on the surface could be a AH viewed slightly differently with a shifted perspective. And and there's a great performance by J. K.. Simmons and this and a supporting character that I don't WanNa give away so this it has a lot going on but It's the funniest thing I saw. It's the most mainstream thing I saw there. So it kind of makes me feel like a little bit of a basic bitch to it'd be like yeah. I loved this movie because it's clearly the most commercial thing at that. I think that I've ever seen at any sundance but man it's so good. It's so solid. The script is great performance awesome. I just want to like wash movie over and over again. Ah neon acquired this in Neon has released. Some some very edgy stuff. This probably might be the most accessible thing that they've acquired right. I think so and and like the Long Island. They produce this movie so they didn't direct it's The comedy trio of Akiva Schaffer. Your Makoni and Andy Sandberg. They did indirect movie most of the movies that they make end up as like tanking at the box office and eventually become cult hits but this one definitely is going to be a mainstream hit when it comes out because the the premise and the yeah the just the combination of all the elements that I mentioned a second ago like that this is this is going to be a big deal. I think I will say there's oftentimes like that big buzz a sentence and it makes a big deal like there. Was this movie. Probably like ten years ago now called him what to which I think sold for ten million dollars it was like one of the biggest. It was the biggest deal at the time it's announced and no one's seen it so so you never know you never know but it does sound like it has all the ingredients to to hit the mainstream public. I was wondering. Did you guys hear about any other buzzed. Both films at the Festival because Sundays is notorious of you know. Oh you're going. In between screenings are on the shuttle buses you overhear people talking and then you end up having to change your entire schedule of plans because you hear about this great home home. You never heard of anybody any buzz going around park city for films that you just didn't get to that you WANNA put on People's radars Chris you you had that that one situation where you had the option to go to one movie and you chose the other one and then I. It sounds like you've made the wrong choice right. Yes there's a movie called minority which Starts Steven Yeun and it's eight twenty. It's an eight two thousand four film and it's about a Korean family living in America and I I heard really good stuff about this and My last full all day there The press for this was the same time as a press screening for another film called the amulet which is a horror film. And you know I'm a horror guy so I was like all right right. I'm GONNA see amulet because I'm the horror guy it'll probably be good and The amulet was the worst film. I saw Sunday. It's it made me want to die. It was so bad and everyone says minority is great so I I'm I'm really kick myself for not seeing that because according to everyone I talked to it. It's phenomenal nominal. I really wish I had seen that because if I had their you know this is a weird year in that nothing other than possessor and I guess Shirley nothing that's your seend D- quote unquote great to me. But everything I saw was for the most part enjoyable or watchable and amulet was the only thing I saw. I outright hated so if I I just see minority I would have had a good year but I didn't so there we are is there any other breakout films. That you guys just didn't get a chance to see I'm trying to think it's that kind of year. This felt like a very muted here. I mean you know I've only but this is my second year but last year felt felt bigger than this year and this year felt kinda muted and. I don't know that might just be. I just didn't see the right things. Or what but that was my experience then the end. Yeah I'm I'm the kind of and also like in terms of the movies that I did see. I think I came away seeing thirteen movies and of the art experience. I'll talk about here in a second but of those. I think only two of them. I really didn't like and the rest of them. I either thought were were good or very good. So so Yeah I mean I. It was a more quiet year but I think it was just like solid like most of the stuff I was like. Yeah this is a pretty good movie so I guess that's like a higher than normal batting average for Sundance. Because a lot of times you you get more of a dramatic mix where it's like. The highs are way a higher but the lows are really really low and luckily. I didn't have that kind of mix this year. I remember there was this one year that like whiplash was like the opening film and we saw that it was like starting the festival off with like the biggest explosion and then the rest not being quite as good but yeah okay okay Anything different or notable of like about the Sundance Film Festival this year in general I think they they. They changed the way that the bus system works this year or something. I'm not sure exactly how but The buses were definitely running waste lower than normal so that was unfortunate. Because you know you're you're relying on that transportation to get you all the way across the this tiny town which you can walk a lot of places but it takes you know thirty or forty five minutes sometimes to walk from one theater to another that you really need to go to and when you're when you're running things on a tight schedule Sometimes I just won't work works. So you're you're really hoping that the bus system works out really well and it was kind of hit or miss this year but yeah in terms of like programming and stuff. I'm not sure I Chris. How many movies did you end up seeing? Have you counted yet. I haven't I think it's sort of a thirteen or fourteen. I'll have to count. Yeah that's pretty good for two people and I feel like we got AH. I don't think we had a single crossover movie on our on. Our whole I guess joint schedules so I feel we got a good whatever almost thirty movies or something. That's that's like a decent cross section of the programming that this year had to offer and I think we if both of us came relatively pleased with that that's probably speaks pretty highly to the the quality of the programming overall here for sure. And you you mentioned you went to this. VR thing is the thing downtown where they have like a a whole Debbie of like VR Demos House. No so th this year they did a lot of that stuff Right there in Park city that I think they call it the new frontier section. Yeah and A lot of times I mean for for years years and years has been experimenting with virtual reality and like all sorts of like alternate forms of storytelling involving technology. And stuff like that and I. It just never really have time to get to any of that but I had a big gap in my schedule this year and there was this A. VR experience called spaced out. That I'd heard about and was kind of fascinated by and the thing is you. It's like an underwater. VR experience. And I'd never even heard of this before but apparently it comes from a company called Ballast Alice. VR which some of you listening may have done some of their stuff before. I literally never heard of this company. But they've developed the first waterproof. VR headset set and they have site set up around the country where you can put on these VR. Headsets go down water slides and it looks like you're sliding sliding through. What stuff like that? Yeah I know I've never heard of them before and I've done several like big. VR things here in Los Angeles. But maybe because we don't have blink water parks and pools and stuff like that uttered parks water Parkinson d-mass and in Orange County. But like I've heard of like on roller coasters. There's doing VR. which sounds like I would be sick but Water like what happens like once you hit the water like feels like I'd be like you would not know I guess your nobody knows what which way is up. Yeah I'm not sure but anyway so you can look into them but you want to. I'm going to try to write an article about this and dive in and do some more research on the company's behind this thing but spaced out is really really fascinating because they took actual archived recordings of the Apollo Eleven mission to the moon and they play that underwater in in this pool. And it's actually was. You had to go to sons headquarters because that was the only pool in the area and you could line up at like you know Select the time to to do this experience. You change and bathing suit. They wrap a flotation device around your stomach and you just like lay there face down on the water and you put the VR headset down under the water and it has a snorkel coming out of it. So you can breathe and your ears are underwater. purser hearing you know and it's really cool echo underwater kind of way these archived recordings of the of the mission to the moon while you're seeing these really psychedelic images of like planets and there's a reference to George Malaise trip to the Moon With the the rocket ship in in the Moon's eyeball you've probably you're probably familiar with that image. That was in there. But you're just like sitting there floating and you're you're tied to a Like a Safety Hook kind of thing where you're not just gonNA float off and hit the wall or anything so you can really just like peacefully. Sit there and not move and just get completely immersed in this really weird VR experience where you're hearing these NASA scientists and technicians and stuff talking and it really. I think it's it's sort of gets is to the experience of what the astronauts must have felt like going to completely uncharted territory but visually. It's not just you are boring ass gray cratered moon. You're seeing like all these crazy colors and like mush giant mushrooms. That are the size of trees and like all sorts parts of Alice in Wonderland e type of of imagery and the camera is like you know slowly pushing forwards you feel like you're sinking into the into the image even though you're not going anywhere and it ends with this This big hallway kind of thing and it reminded me so much of the ending of interstellar earlier where Matthew mcconaughey is zooming through this. You know. Four dimensional space or whatever and it. It's very much like that. And by with with the combination of the colors Lurs and the planets and all this stuff it really taps into primal like a plane of existence where I think think if aside from doing drugs this is probably the closest that anybody will ever get to physically experiencing what might be like to To you experience the end of two thousand one space odyssey like that's the level of artistry that's on display here in terms of what it does your brain chemistry while you're underwater doing this really weird. VR thing and I talked to the artist who is responsible for this and he was saying that they're hope right now is to scale it out and and have this available to a lot of the wear your places where where Ballast Vr. This virtual reality company currently has its setups an infrastructure already in place and he was saying like really all you need. It's so much cheaper than something like the void or you know some of these other. They're big VR companies. Because you don't have to rent out or or you know. Build a huge a warehouse and all the infrastructure goes along with that pools Public pools water parks. Whatever all that stuff is already there so they you know in terms of like being able to get it out to an audience just have to strike deals with the people who own that stuff and are those locations and They're good to go. It's all like you know. The technology is right there with you so This could be something that you actually have a chance to maybe experienced one day and it's called spaced out and I would definitely recommend if you if you see anything remotely like this Definitely check it out and and again I'm going to try to write it up On on slash home dot com sometime soon. I'll try to transcribe some of the best quotes that I got from the digital artists Who who created this thing but it's really really fascinating stuff and I'm glad I had a chance to and the time to do it while Sundance that sounds insane like company expects to make money off this? Yeah I don't know I'm not sure what their what their business model is exactly. But maybe I can reach out to the head of the company trying to get some quotes from them to. Because I'm I'm like going into this just like completely flabbergasted that this technology and all of that This waterproof version exists. And I've never heard this before but it's a really cool like zero gravity sensation patient of being under water and floating there Really added to the whole experience so I thought it was really really cool like on one hand. I really want to experience this another. I I just feel like there's not going to be any place I can experience this ad I know they have like. VR Centers. Like this thing down now a call to bid circus that has a lot of the our stuff and they even have like some of the more complicated ones where you actually get unlike this whole robotic setup that is set up to like make it feel like you're flying so you're like what this feels like. You're you're not moving but it really like the way that the camera imagery moves or whatever inside the headset set. It makes you feel like you're you're flying across the surface of these planets as wild crazy crazy Chris. You didn't WanNa try the our experience. Well I figured since Ben was doing it I wouldn't do it also. I don't want to bathing suit and okay so Most of your reviews I think are on the site right now. Are you guys still behind a few. Yeah I think I still have two more to do and then hopefully hopefully you can put something together for this. VR thing. Chris Pretty close to done though right. I have two more as well so I will link the Sundance category in the show. Notes if you want to check out all the four of us for not just the film so we mentioned here because we only mentioned eight films and you guys saw close to thirty. So there's a lot more to you. Discover a check that out on slash DOT COM. This podcast daily is published every weekday on itunes. Google overcast spotify. All the popular podcast APPS. Please feel free to senator feedback. Questions comes concern to us at Peter as lashawn calm and rating readers podcasts. Knighthoods tell your friends spread the word. It will see you tomorrow. The one thing. I'm wondering is like you received an email from publicist and you're like yeah I man. I'm going to like going to a movie. I'm going to go get my bathing suit head to the pool and do well. I didn't bring a bathing suit with me. But they had I think they must have gone to target or something something and mass purchased a ton of bathing suits for all the journalists. And I think that's might have been open to the public as well so people could just come and try and the bathing suit or not trying to bathing suits but just put on a brand new bathing suit and then I don't know what they did with them afterwards hopefully they watch them. I don't know the one that I tried on. Our used was was untouched. So that's all I cared about in the moment but like did you just get an email like come to the Soviets Pool in yet every every year. There's always you know you. They always percent press releases about the VR stuff that they have and I saw this one because because of the underwater component now I just never heard of that technology at all before and I was just like man and this is really interesting. I can't believe that this exists and then it just so happened where I had a big opening one day and I in my in my movie going being calendar and I was like all right. I'm going for it. I got to see what this thing's all crazy okay.

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ICYMI - Janelle Monae Embraces Uniqueness with "Dirty Computer"

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

08:00 min | 1 year ago

ICYMI - Janelle Monae Embraces Uniqueness with "Dirty Computer"

"The you're listening to comedy central. Please welcome to John. Here. You will finally here. I have been a fan of your's chasing you around from event to event I have loved everything that you've done for so long. First of all, congratulations on your Grammy nomination. You struck me as somebody who creates because you love creating you know, you don't create to win to to sell to thing. I mean, these bright products voice struck me as an artist artists, but being nominated that hit you, right? Yeah. I've been wanting to to do this album for a while. Now, it was actually supposed to be the album. I did the first before my first album, the Android. And so I went through a lot to get this album done a lot of conversations I've had to have myself my family. You know, as I became a young woman. My perspective started to change and the way I wanted to create art started to evolve and took a lot, and I work with a lot of amazing people to get it done. And and I was very shocked and humbled that you know, I could do an album that was so much about me about my truth. And because I was walking my truth. Other folks, you know, Saul themselves in this project. So it just feels like, you know, it's a it's a great acknowledgement to me and the community of people I wanted to celebrate. That's something really beautiful about yet. That I found really powerful about duty computer is that you create this passion projects that said everything you wanted to say, but at the same time it felt like it was speaking to all of us in our individual ways, you know, some people said that this was a proud celebration of womanhood for women. Some said, no, this is this is a proud celebration of of being gay of being queer. This is this is and at the same time, it feels like it's all of those things when you're constructing album when you're writing these songs are you thinking of the message in the song. Oh, do you write the song? And then you realize that it has a message. How is that working when you create this? Well, it went through many stages. There were moments where I would write songs on the way to the dentist on the album that I wrote called so afraid right now. No. That makes sense. Yeah. Exactly because I am Indy afraid of the dentist. Right. But yeah, it was I was in my car and only at stop lights. I was stop and be like all in just singing, the background vocals. And then once I was in the chair. I was still mouth open. Came back and to-, you know, my my lead producer Nate rocket wonder how wanted the song to go. And he helped me realize that there are moments where I will wake up out of my sleep and have a voice melody in my head and have to put it on my my voice memo rights, and then there were just moments where I would collaborate with incredible people like Zoe Kravitz Stevie Wonder, these are people in our room. Brian Wilson of the beach, boys rights. For for real Williams Grimes, you know, so many amazing folks came together and said, we believe in in what it means to be dirty, computer, what it means to have a you walk in your truth. So that other marginalized groups can can have a soundtrack to their life. When you. When you released duty, computer. I remember watching the full film as I mean, it's it's a film. I did I told you about this. It's it's beautiful. It's a story that you watched from beginning. And and it's a journey of lovers. And it's a journey of the world. It's such a beautiful story. Tessa Thompson stars in. She's amazing as well. Incredible. And in that in that clip that we saw pink that was something that got people buzzing. I mean, some people in the audience haven't seen that video. And I saw some of you watching that and you like those. Although is that and everyone's giving them a different name people be like those giant ham. Those Vova pants those. But what was what was that about? Why was that so significant because I knew it went beyond just like it was like shock value, it's beautiful artistic foam. But what was the message behind all of that you, and why would they also difference or the messages on the album start with me Fred's, you know, and as a woman as a black woman who is you know, I owned my sexuality, and I have agency if I wanna show my skin. I can if I don't want to I don't have to. But it's up to me to make those. I wanted to celebrate women who share those same beliefs as well. As other women who who may not just all of us coming together embracing those things that make us unique even if it makes others uncomfortable. I wanted I wanted to just be a love fest of women saying, hey, girl, I see you, you know. It feels like it's come that. I mean, I know now it's going to be the Grammy's push. Now, it's going to be that you know, that that monumental weights. I mean, everyone has it before the Grammys come up, but this has been a chapter in your life. We know that you're acting as well now you phenomenal. I mean you've been in. I don't know is it now to Academy Award nominated films. You've been amazing all of them. I know where you're trying to go. But what are you trying to do with your work moving forward, both in acting and music? I love storytelling. I love telling these universal stories unforgettable ways, and you know, with moonlight and with Hidden Figures, it was just it was such an honor to be in those films because they're there. They could have been stories that could have been raced. You know, I didn't know about the three black women all the women who helped get John Glenn into orbit. I didn't realize we were at NASA literally calculating and making sure that our astronauts went to space and and came back safely computers. We word the human computers in it's crazy. I was working on the computer when I was shooting Hidden Figures, and when they referred to me as a computer onset. It was always a reminder of all my gosh, I have to continue to write this hour them. Because in the same way that we're telling these stories of these women my story could be a race. There's nobody who could have done that album except for me. And so I had to make myself vailable in like, really, you know, take the time to just dig deep you've dug deep you've taken us with you. It's amazing. You have the nominations to show for thank you for being on the show. You're welcome to in the new movie, she's in we'll be hit some twenty. She'll be touring Europe this summer and dirty computer is available now genome everybody. Village with cover. No yours. A dish wants Valey show. Weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy, central and the comedy central watchable episodes and videos at the daily show dot com. 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Episode 68: Marvel Crisis Protocol with Arielle from Sarges Comics in New London, CT

On The Table Gaming

37:23 min | 8 months ago

Episode 68: Marvel Crisis Protocol with Arielle from Sarges Comics in New London, CT

"It comes on the table. A podcast about board games card games and tables uproar games. Hey it's chase them on the table gaming and we're back with episode sixty eight and this week we're taking a pause from a song of ice and fire content talk about Marvel Crisis Protocol and I've got reo from Serge's comics in new London on to talk about her love of the game and she ran a demo game for me and it was awesome. And I'm really excited to have it on the podcasts irregular Star Wars lead opponent of mine and Reo. Thanks for coming podcast. Yeah thanks holiday. Oh Man I'm really excited. Docu about marvel crisis. Vertical as you're one of like the big flag bearers for the game at Stardust comics. But before we jump in you know we do a lot of a song of ice and fire content and map. You'll primarily maybe come here to listen about that but one of the things that's cool about that game as it brings. Npr from a lot of different backgrounds fans of the books. The shows traditional board games card games and they kind of bring their own unique perspectives. So you know. How did you find your way tomorrow? Chris Protocol kind of. What's been your your love story with gaming here. I mean it's kind of a weird thing. I really hadn't played any miniature games before last year. I went to Gen con with my husband and he. He went primarily for Song of ice and fire but we also went to pick up. The New Legion released the new clone wars and and I don't know like I. It really clicked with me the clones in particular. I really enjoy and then I heard about a moral crisis protocol and I was really excited because there wasn't like a game like that for marvel comics stuff that really attracted me. I really like so many of the things about crisis protocol. There's just the way that the game works. They put a lot of effort into what they see and I think a lot of people see as correcting some issues with other miniatures games. Like line of sight rules and Train issues and things like that and some of it has overcomplicated things when they tried to simplify things. But it's definitely made it a lot more interesting so I don't know there's just a lot of stuff about this particular game that drew me to it and you know first and foremost as someone who really loves marvel comics in his has read them for a very long time in the game. Brought me in by sort of selling that aspect of it. I'm surprised I feel like you've been kicking my butt with your clones for over a year. That's what I feel like. I've definitely taking it a few times from fires. Go here but I've been really impressed with. Have you done any miniature painting before because like for example I saw your hoke? It's got like intricate board shorts with like palm trees on it and I'm like benefit have been painting for a long time and I don't have anything like that. Hoke is like the fourth or fifth many. I've ever painted. Why okay all right awesome. Thank you I. Thin painting Painting but like drawing and painting and things like that for most of my life but I never painted. Many's before so this is a interesting. Learning curve is painting on something so tiny but also three dimensional. Yeah well I'm I'm super grateful because so I got a chance to try Marvel Crisis Protocol at Pax unplugged this past two thousand. Nineteen and actually a micro hookah from penny arcade. Emc Stop by Walmart or playing with my buddy buddy. Brian was crushing me with the forces but it was like really an incomplete experience. I think we started for the demo. You started on turn to and you played like around and we have like tons of power to star and I was a little confused and maybe a little maybe even underwhelmed but more more confused and so it was really really nice that you took the time to kind of run a more comprehensive run-through for me And it was really really fun but you know having more experienced the game than me. How would you describe what makes Marvel critical? Maybe different from a song of ice and fire or Star Wars leading game when you actually get it like well on the table. It's definitely a smaller game. Like a physical running you can bring so when you when you go to play a game you bring a list of ten and from that list you have to build a like point threshold based on whatever the crisis of the day is and so that can be anywhere from I. Think the the lowest is maybe fifteen at might be lower now because they've been a lot of releases that I haven't quite been able to keep up with 'cause we just had three out this week. Check list building is tied to the scenario. So it's kind of states extremely fluid and that's one of the things that I really liked about it honestly because the like building a list prior to the game is is fun and I like messing around with Clone lists obviously. But but there's there's something really interesting about bringing contingencies bike. You don't know what the game is going to be. You have no idea but you have to have a very small number of characters. There's there's well over ten character by now the the core set comes out with ten and now you have all of these other options that you have to condense down to. These are the ten that I want to pick from. And then based on whatever the The crisis says you have to figure out how to fit the characters that you've brought into that bracket Interesting is there any restrictions on how you can other restrictions to the kind of characters you can bring like? I always WanNa bring you know who Thor or he's my jam. Like is there a way to scenario like sorry? Tough luck like you can't no. There's there's no real so far that I know of There might be in the future. Some reason I think some of the organized play theoretically has future restrictions on lake which characters you can bring to it. But that's a different animal. It's not casual play in. It's not really Tournament either. It's it's a weird thing it's it's mostly like Like raid scenarios and stuff like that thing. Yeah so there's there's certain characters that you can bring those in certain ones that you might not be able to in the future but for just a casual game and for as far as I know tournament play. There's no real restrictions on like what you can bring if you always WanNa bring thor or you always WanNa bring iron man that's fine. They're you're you're kind of only restricted by what you want to do with your list so if you want to build an avengers team you still do have to have more than half of your characters have to have the avengers keyword. Okay and so when you're building you're listening you're choosing your characters. There's not a lot of fictions and then we played. You're explaining how you can have. It didn't really matter if it's a villain or a hero mixture squad together. Yeah so when you're picking your your forces for a given scenario general things that you may be trying to think of to mix and mass. Don't play the game like what are some of the choices that go into pink character that might be reflect some of the complexity of the game. There's certain resistances or things that you want to be paying attention to yes. So there's there's a lot of different reasons that you might choose certain characters certain characters work really well with other characters like Red Skull has the ability to Move people and if you pair that with someone who already has good movement speed or already has inability to In addition to their movement you know making an extra move like hulk has gamma leap. Pairing that together can really move that character a lot faster so those kinds of things. If that's if that's something that you want to plan for is you WANNA get a character into a specific spot very early in the game. You can build for that and there's also just like if you want thematically there are people who I am fairly active in both of the the larger facebook groups and there are people who just statically they like. Having avengers aren't avengers team or like I was mentioning to earlier. I really liked the idea of playing We'll condon's with The winter soldier because he has an ability called rogue agent that allows him to adopt the the affiliation of the group. That he's so yeah so like he would play really well. Not just you know in that group. Because he can. He can adopt their affiliation. But also because the medically it's kind of fun. Yeah that's that's a cool thing with the game. Is it like it's strict enough that there are rules right but then it's like wide open enough that you can have some fun and be creative and how these kind of weird? What if scenarios and there's a lot of just narrative to it that it's very fun the The crisis or crises. I suppose in particular each one is like a different story setup and so you might have one where you're trying to save people who are infected with spider virus and you're trying to get them to safety in all this and it really affects your game play because that one in particular You have to you have to roll at a point to determine whether your opponent can move you because that that spider infected person that you're you're trying to save is fighting back and that kind of narrative element to it is something that I feel like this game really nailed with a little bit like controlled chaos. Right which superheroes like when everything? Everything is seems to be going right and then suddenly things start on and I I really feel like it. It got that down like the the sense of this being a Superhero Game. Where you're not just concerned about Beating the other person but also getting these objectives and you know the terrain is also really big part of it like you asked earlier. What sort of set this game apart from from other games in one of the big things is you can throw terrain at your opponents which is awesome which is fantastic like you. Can you can pick up a building and chuck it across the map. And that's something you don't get in a lot of other games. None that I know of. I'm sure there's something out there but that something it really brings a different a different level of thought to the game. Because you're not just thinking about okay. How do I get to this character to beat it up like if you can't get that character while I can throw this car at them? That's yeah and it feels superhero. That's cool so how do you prevent like characters from this up on other characters or you know so? I noticed that the different point values but like maybe orders activation might matter in some games where it's like. Oh you've got five activation. And they've got three. How does the game deal with? Maybe kind of lopsided engagements like that actually deal with it really well. They have a mechanic that allows you. So if you have priority when you start the game If you then end your turn with priority and you're the last activation priority goes to the other player so interesting. Yeah so having that makes it so that yeah okay you know you might have the advantage right now but this sort of gives the the other player assertive Comeback Element. Yeah so you're never really. It's not one of those games. You lose your first squad and then you're like well I guess it's over now. I'm just kind of playing an inevitable loss here. Yeah there's a lot of that bill into the game. The power the injured sides of the character. So like when you when you reach your Boone threshold on your healthy side of your character. On the next round you'd flip it over to the injured side and then you have still whatever power you amassed but now you have maybe different or a different health score There's there's that opportunity to flip it around on your opponent. Captain America for example on his injured side. Has I believe one more health but also an ability called. I can do this all day. Which allows him to include blanks in his defense roles and that is like a huge thing for him because suddenly he is like tougher. He's harder to beat. He's really difficult to to knock down thing where it feels like. I said very thematic heroes to a certain point where like they are injured their battered but not broken. And that's when they're you know maybe they've got some cool tricks up their sleeves right and you you really feel sort of that That desperation in you know you get these these big epic moments where you think the character might be on their last legs but they've still got something left and that's kind of what that that Mechanic promotes is that feeling of. Yeah okay got beat the crap out of but I can still win this like you never feel like you know it's over just because you've got whooped. Yeah and then so one thing. We haven't really had a chance to play the game here is. There's a few types of different attacks again. They kind of fall into categories. Yeah how how does that work? So it seems like each hero. Maybe has certain energies or strengths. That are not unique to them but they kind of fall into maybe three or four categories yes. So there's there's three different basic attack types there's physical energy and mental might be called psychic off the top of my head. I can't remember But those those are the three basic types and most characters have like a A basic attack like a arranged attack some of them have what are called beam or area effect attacks but they all sort of fit into one of those three either physical energy or mental Attack types and your defenses also fall under either physical mental or energy and so you you it introduces an element of sort of where I want to put a certain character knowing that. Like if I if I know that I'm up against mode. Doc I want I might WanNa push my ultra towards Mohawk because altron has pretty good. Defenses against mental abilities mode has really strong mental abilities so for every pair off and battle. Yeah or or you might want to like. Move someone into place to protect someone who doesn't have very good Defenses like for instance. Black widow has sort of on the low end of defenses. But if you shove catch America over there he can bodyguard for her and take some of those hits. That seems really really. Cool it really. It's a ton of fun. Do you have a favorite character? That's currently in the game. Or maybe within like the most recent releases to not just limited starter set so I have a couple of sort of favorite characters I really love. Captain Marvel like not just because I had a blast painting her but she's also very she. She's got a lot of basis covered. I'll say her binary ability is really cool. It's it's a great Sort of. I'm not sure exactly how to put this so it. It allows you to add to dice to your attack in defense roles until the start of next activation so it's a good deterrent against interesting. Okay 'cause 'cause if you activate binary and especially if you have her on adventures team where you can activate it for four power instead of five because of CAV's ability his leadership ability lets you on first on the first superpower use of that character's turn they can use one less power to to use it and so Her binary can be really fantastic for that because in a shell shell add to die to her attack but then you can just put off. Activating her until the end of your next turn essentially and it means that she's going to have to extra defense die on every attack. That comes at her until she activates again. And that's a real good like deterrent but also if people do attack her okay. She's just going to build up power. Gotcha and so that I man. There's so many ways the game kind of inter-plays with you know getting attacked and get power tagging power. It's emily that that also comes back to what you said about Sort of that comeback mechanic. Where you as you're taking damage you get power from it so the more damage you take yet. Okay you might be getting pretty low on the health scale. But you're also building up to the ability to hit back really hard What's your experience been with? The larger marvel crisis protocol community in general. It's been really good honestly like I. I've been on like I said earlier. Both of the bigger facebook pages and they're both really just very supportive of people. They're very excited about everything. they're super pumped about like the artistic side like they are all over modifications and paint schemes and doing wacky things with the models The developers are really involved with the official facebook page. Which is nice to see because like if people have sort of a rules question or A clarification that they want made. The developers are usually pretty responsive about getting to that. That's cool yeah. It was nice when I am really a big fan of communities where the developers designers like actually take an active part. It's just a nice way to see their energy and their own game and they're not like just responding to that like the the painters the official papers for the for the miniatures are really responsive to people putting up pictures like they're paying jobs. They're they're always like wow. That's a great job or look at that like how cool that is that you decided to go with this. They're just really supportive. And you mentioned Kinda people doing to alternate paint schemes like modifications. Can you modify the miniatures are there? Does that impact gameplay or you like his arms not the same position it messes with so because the game doesn't have true line of sight it has sort of A. It's a peculiar system. I will give it that. It's very different. It's the best description I've had given to me. Is that if you think of it in two dimensions. Instead of three it works a lot better so basically the size of your character is what you can see if that character on the size is on the card. So it's always going to be that regardless of whether you you know build up onto like I've seen spiderman attached to IBM's and it's fine with a small medium large category it's so like It's actually in numbers instead of small charge. It's odd thing you no so like so like Spider Man. I think is assigned to character and Like ultra is size. Three Hulk I believe is four It just means that you know you don't have to worry about whether for instance like to to compare it to Legion like lightsaber. Sticking out around the corner you can get shot at. That doesn't happen in this game. Like if if you can see the The base of the Model I believe is what they they determine it by and based on like the actual size of the character if you can see it on certain things behind certain things like if you're beside a car that is the same size you regardless of whether the character model might be peaking out above the car the idea is essentially you know your character is not dumb ever hiding behind a car. They're not GONNA to be sending out right. They're not going to be sitting up on top of whatever is on their base like they're going to be Behind the car so it's a much more dynamic system in that sense. Is there a way they handle like flight? Because I think some superheroes right they can yes stuck to the ground. Now there's There's flight and wall crawler are the two big Sort of movement mechanics. There are different from the standard. They they do similar things so far. There might be some kind of Future mechanic with Wall crawler that I'm not aware of at this moment. But they essentially allow you to pass over objects of a certain size without difficulty otherwise you would have to spend time climbing it. Gotcha anything that you're looking for down the line like that. You really hope to see. Come out for the game any characters or certain expansions. I think we're all really hoping X. Men At some point. Oh yeah that's sort of like the big community wish is diet will get X. men down the line They might come probably at the earliest later. This year but honestly. Amd is rolling out new models so often there were legacy at three this week. That was an. It's not actually three models. It was six models because it was thor Valkyrie Hella low key and wisdom wisdom winter soldier. Ambition I definitely Portmanteau them for a second so like six new characters all came out justice week and were the ones that are coming up. Are The thanos expansion. And and the The Guardians of the galaxy. Those are the ones that I believe. We know about so far as far as they're coming soon they're also ones. That are a little bit more question. Marquis there's another black widow sculpt. It's GONNA come out and she'll have different abilities so it's not just like a cool. An alternate Scott like she actually will be a different character. And there's also I believe Hawkeye Miles Morales and spider gwen. Oh wow so then really anything. It's not Oh yeah. No there's there is because it's not dependent on the movie rights They can put whatever they want. But we just don't know unless they've told us explicitly like these characters are coming out at this time. It's all question marks. That's amazing yeah. It's very exciting so I'm excited. I think I'm gonNA check out something I'd just I keep seeing you guys play and and it looks really exciting and it. It seems like a game where you can you know buying it like your level like. I don't need to necessarily have to have everything. Yeah so that's that's a really nice thing about it like you. You don't have to buy the core set to be able to run the game You do need like dice and stuff like that but those things you can buy separately so if you don't want the characters that are in the core set although the core set is a great value for what you get 'cause you you not only get like those those beginning characters but you also get a bunch of terrain You get the cards. The rulers and measurement tools You get dice like there's a Lotta stuff comes with a car set but you don't necessarily need it for instance like you're really just excited about as guardians or Or like a specific faction like if you just want that faction you can go out and buy the couple of characters that you need to build a list for that For Tournament play for People. Who are a little bit more serious about casual play? We honestly have not been Picky about people bringing you have to bring ten characters pick from that list like if you only have a certain amount of characters put together or a certain amount of characters that you definitely WanNa play like. We're fine with people just bringing that in at our store but some people I'm sure are like hardcore. They want you to bring the ten characters but if you have specific characters that you WanNa bring in the you WanNa play like you can buy in at that level. That's fine and then maybe I guess maybe as a kind of a closing thought here so I I've come much to my background is always been more sort of in gaming side and I've always looked over at the comic side of China. The larger sort of fun. Nerd them here. I don't know what I would call. It is always seem very intimidating so if I was looking at like marvel comics or WanNa get into comics. Would you have any suggestions on where I might start? That's a like you do say that. That is a little bit overwhelming and there are a lot of places you can start I mean if you've ever been to scientists comics in New London. They have such a huge comic selection. You Walk in. There is like a giant place of comics. And it's like okay so I can walk straight like the legionary. No matter what I know. Go Yeah No. There's there's a lot of lake honestly. If I were to make a suggestion it would be go to your local comics store. Say you like this character. What should I read your your comic? People at your store are going to have great suggestions. I think that it really depends on what you want out of the character. Like what you like about the character my like a lot of things about Like there's a there's a really good Captain Marvel run called Mighty. Captain Marvel and I really enjoyed that. Run someone else who likes to marvel for a different reason might not enjoyed much. So it's really hard for to suggest like a specific thing but I do feel like there's the the great thing about comics and about this game is that there really is just something for everyone like if you really enjoy A comic that goes into depth about a characters like back story or development. There's something out there for you and if you really like a comic it's like all full-frontal action like there is something out there for you and I think that's sort of also the great thing about this game is like if you WanNa play it for For the big epic battle. That's something that you can do. And if you WANNA play it for like I really like these characters together and I think that the interaction between these characters is really cool. Like that's something you can get a two well. I'm excited and I'll maybe trying to jump in a few times when I see you guys up there with all your crisis protocol stuff. I know we have a lot of fun playing legion there. You guys. Yeah at some point. It's hard to get enough. I've got a Song Fire Legion. And now this one looks like it's a little bit more manageable so this'll be another five five hobby to have right and I think that's that's one of the nice like one of the really nice things about this game is that it is just a more manageable Character count like I like you said I have a lot of clones to paint for this game. There really. Aren't that many models that you're gonNA need to to keep up with which is really. It's it's nice because you can play it at your speed. Yeah yeah man and your stuff has been amazing really inspiring to to see the way you guys are paying them and some of the alternative schemes or just the additional details you've added on. Yeah that's it's one of the things I really like about the The community is that it is a lot of people talking about. You know this is what I really wanted to do with this character. Like people are talking about right now Running Bulky as the Tessa Thompson version from the movie rather than the version from the comic books. It's it's fun to watch people figure out. Okay how can I make this character fit into this scheme? What do I need to add to it like I was? I've been looking desperately for a horse skull because I want to replace stores head with the Beta Ray. Bill had to have my moment of looking up. Who Better a bill? That was like. Step here Beta Ray. Bill is a really fun. So the the th or character is a fun concept because he is just so many different things like. It's not just that person. That person is thor. But also the concept of thor sort of transcends that character so you have like Jane Foster as the mighty. Thor and you have Beta ray bill as thorough at some point and at one point was a frog. And it really like I I would love to see someone just put a frog frog viewed. Yes absolutely And a lot of it comes down to whether or not you're worthy of nowhere and because of that you've had a couple of different people who are particular unawed beathor over the years and Beta. Ray Bill is what I may favorites because he was created to be this sort of creepy unpleasant looking alien because the the Creator wanted people to see him and think immediately of back is evil and so he wanted to sort of the audience out now and thank you know man. He's definitely the bad guy. But no actually. He's like super awesome. He is definitely worthy of the hammer are like he is a hero. And it was a nice departure from OV- wealth or has to be this blonde Fabio of heroics and actually you know anyone who is properly were they and good and wholesome at the heart of them can also be thor. We definitely have to find you a horse for I just I really. It's so hard to find. You wouldn't think it would be that difficult. They're actually used to be some were hammer models. But they're all like out of prints so finding them is GonNa be a challenge and and stuff like that that like is really. The community is really excited about they. They hear people. You know doing things like right. Now there's a lot of people playing with the anti-venom scheme of venom where he's like white with the black instead of black with the white and there's a lot of people doing some crazy things with like green stuff and wires to make the Bits of him come out on. Yeah and it's really fun is just how many different things you can do with these characters. Because they're such an immense backlog of like versions of the characters and different things that the characters have done like a lot of people are putting the first comics that these characters appeared in in little tiny printouts on their base nine. Yeah people are just through flow excited about the game and that's one of the most fun things is just how many different things that people come up with and how much creativity goes into These characters and making them look different in unique in really making them your own. And because you don't have to deal with true of site and because the the only real specification from the game on what you can do at the model is that it has to be a majority of the parts were from the original model set because of that gives you so much freedom to do different things and started looking at starter sets here. Well thank you so much for coming odd. Thank you for having me. It was a lot of fun. Look forward to. I'm still recovering from muscle last night's battles but next week. I'll see you. And then in the meantime hope it gets your miniatures on the table.

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